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marskaGa'h12:00
hondje:)12:00
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marskaThey need better names for their programs.. How about Web Surfer12:00
egon_spenglermarska, Try icewm, windowmaker12:00
shinuhow slow can it be... 0.o my p266 had xfce and it ran *fine* :)12:00
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Auxinback..12:00
marskaShinu: Everything just.. Lags.12:01
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hondjeenlightenment is my choice for slower computers12:01
Auxinanyone here who uses mythtv with breezy?12:01
marskaShinu: Whats odd, is that the speed between Gnome and XFCE seems about the same12:01
Rev-Marcgrettinngs all12:01
hondjeBut I also think Rasterman is a prophet12:01
marskaIts weird12:01
shinuMadpilot: but it shouldnt be even readable should it?12:01
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marskaHondje: You know Jesus was just an Open Religion advocate?12:01
shinumarska: text login?12:01
Auxinthe question is .. there are all packages for myth-tv in synaptic.. if i install them.. will mythtv work?12:01
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bluefoxicymarska:  you're probably more low on ram than CPU12:01
Madpilotshinu: there's no harm in having that stuff readable; you will have to use sudo to modify anything12:01
shorty114is there an apt package for azureus?12:01
hondjeWho's that?12:02
marskaBlue: I'm running 256 megs12:02
hondjeDoes he hang out with Stallman?12:02
burnershorty114, not in ubuntu :\12:02
Drauconq time12:02
Auxinshorty114, y u need azureus?12:02
naliothshorty114: yes, but it's better to get it from azureus.sourceforge.net12:02
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  there's plenty of harm in knowing what root may be doing12:02
marskaShinu: Think its GDM?12:02
Dr_WillisAuxin,  i think ya got todo a little tweaking and run the mythsetup program as well.12:02
ompaul offtopic for long conversations12:02
shinumarska: can i view others people's home folder though?12:02
Rev-MarcI have suceeded in installing "gsynaptics" the package handler sayes it is install but I can not find it any help is grfeatly appreciated12:02
shorty114nalioth, k, thanks.12:02
RockyBurthm, as of the last few days... if i go in to change my icons in my theme, it doesn't work until i log back into gnome ... anyone know what might be going on?12:02
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shinumarska: i had text login ^^12:02
AuxinDr_Willis, a howto somewhere? maybe..12:02
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spider_okay, new question:  what do i use to backup my /home to (multiple) cds?12:02
hondjeRockyBurt: bad things?12:02
marskaShinu: What?12:02
Dr_WillisAuxin,  no idea - check the wikis and forums.. then the mythtv homepage :P12:02
RockyBurthondje: it was working just a few days ago :(12:02
Auxink .. thx Dr_Willis ;)12:02
marskaShinu: Text login? I'd like to use a dm12:02
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  what if someone as root puts in some command like smbclient with -p (password) on the command line?12:03
Dr_Willisdm's are for sissies. :P12:03
marskaShinu: Firefox, emacs and everything else lags though12:03
bluefoxicyMadpilot: or smbmount more likely :)12:03
hondjeRockyBurt: still working for me, that's rather odd12:03
marskaXFCE doesn't seem to speed anything up12:03
marskaI don't know..12:03
shinumarska: erm... xdm maybe... but without a dm its hell of a lot quicker imho12:03
marskaMaybe I should just install Windows12:03
shinuno~12:03
boxerboy29rev-marc in terminal try typing "gsynaptics" without quotes see if it brings it up12:03
Dr_WillisBeOs :P12:03
hondjeRockyBurt: are you switching to icons you installed personally, or ones you apt-get'd12:03
Rev-Marcwill try12:03
marskaShinu: I tried xdm with Ubuntu  just drops me to the console12:03
haasteemhi, is anyone using zina as graphical interface for their mp3 collection?12:04
shinuDr_Willis: i tried that once... didnt recognize my graphic card so it was b&w x)12:04
hondjeRockyBurt: if it's ones you picked up, maybe check the permissions on ~.icons, that's all I can think of12:04
RockyBurthondje: installed personally (in $HOME/.Icons)12:04
shinumarska: unsexy :/12:04
hondjelol12:04
marskaShinu: Can you have multiple users through text login?12:04
Dr_Willisshinu,  but it was a fast and pretty B/W :P12:04
hondjeThen got me beat ;-)12:04
Rev-Marccommand not found12:04
Madpilotbluefoxicy: I think shinu was talking about just being able to look at the root-owned files via Nautilus, not anything more complex12:04
naliothmarska: yes12:04
shinuDr_Willis: hehe x)12:04
marskanalioth: Could you tell me how to set that up then?12:04
marskaShinu: What dm are you using now?12:04
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  yeah but the default umask is 0022, so you can look inside all root's files too12:05
shinumarska: as i said im just using text login12:05
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haasteemi'm not sure how to get it to work...12:05
marskaShinu: Okay.. Okay.. How do you set that up?12:05
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anathema_hey seethru12:05
anathema_there?12:05
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  someone needs to fix the default umask . . . :/12:05
shinumarska: basically you turn off gdm :)12:05
seethruanathema_: yep12:05
anathema_hey go to www.pastebin.com12:05
marskaAnathema: I'm sorry but I can't acknowledge you12:05
hondjewow, I just broke something12:05
anathema_i am the top guy12:05
boxerboy29rev-marc: may i ask what gsynaptic does differently than synaptic?12:05
marskaShini: And how do I do that without messing up my system?12:05
naliothmarska: text login works the same as gui login. you put your username and pass in when prompted12:05
Madpilotbluefoxicy: sure, but read-only <shrug>12:06
anathema_see me on the list there seethru ?12:06
anathema_i cant find the url in lynx12:06
Rev-MarcI was told to use it to turn off touchpad I am new on Linux12:06
seethruanathema_: hold on I'll look12:06
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shinuMadpilot: am i able to look at other people's home folder though? (never tried, i only have one user + root :P)12:06
seethruanathema_: I only see burner as the most recent12:07
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marskanalioth: Sessions work the same way as well?12:07
anathema_damnit12:07
anathema_uhh12:07
normal1_hey can someone help me out12:07
marskaShinu: How do you turn off GDM?12:07
anathema_damn how do i get the link in lynx12:07
anathema_haha12:07
naliothmarska: /msg ubotu bum12:07
boxerboy29oh ok not having a laptop with linux i cant help much i thought it was a version of synaptic sorry sir12:07
normal1_does anyone else have proablem downloading from the backports rep12:07
marskaNalioth: What?12:07
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  so what if I have something like "login_to_ftp --password secure1" in /root/.bash_history ?12:07
naliothnormal1_: mirrormax is no longer up.12:07
shinuwas about to recommend sysv-rc-conf12:08
naliothubotu: tell normal1_ about backports12:08
shinubum looks nice12:08
naliothmarska: type /msg ubotu bum12:08
shinuthat was weird x)12:08
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  or some console ftp program (gftp comes to mind) stores your passwords plaintext with current umask (gftp comes to mind)12:08
Hikaru79I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?12:08
normal1_thanks man12:08
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normal1_=)12:08
marskaNormall_: My only complaint is that the packages seem to be outdated already12:08
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normal1_really =\12:08
normal1_better than just getting error12:08
marskanalioth: That doesn't retrun anything.. Just makes ubotu say bum12:08
naliothmarska: backports is not up for breezy12:08
naliothubotu: tell marska about bum12:08
marskareturn12:08
Madpilotbluefoxicy: good points; I'd forgotten that FTP and some other protocols still store passwords as plaintext...12:08
naliothmarska: you should identify yourself to services12:09
marskanalioth: Thank you12:09
shinuanyone can tell me if i can view other users' home folder?12:09
Bateau_isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?12:09
marskaNalioth: Any idea when backports will be up for breezy? A few programs seem outdated...12:09
normal1_so hows ubuntu doing in the linux world ?12:09
naliothmarska: normal1_: many service await those who are registered on freenode12:09
normal1_i really havn't checked12:09
normal1_cool12:09
Madpilotdoes anyone here run Folding@Home in Ubuntu?12:09
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  more basically, does anyone NEED read access to /root?  :P12:10
normal1_is ubuntu climbing up the latter of distors ?12:10
naliothmarska: let the devs finish with breezy so they can start on dapper drake (and get some programs backported from it)12:10
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marskaShinu: You use bum?12:10
guest_hey12:10
marskaNalioth: So I guess bum is a very lightweight dm?12:10
Madpilotnormal1_: it's been #1 on DistroWatch's list for a while now, whatever that's worth...12:10
tritiumnormal1_: where can you go from the top?12:10
shinumarska: nope but that program looks nice so use it ^^12:10
marskaGa'h12:10
shinumarska: why?12:10
naliothmarska: no. its the answer to your gdm question. read the link12:10
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marskanalioth: Oh.. Okay12:11
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hyphenatedHikaru79: can you put your menu.lst into a pastebin (eg: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl )12:11
marskaShinu: Just that the dm seems to be slowing down my system12:11
Hikaru79hyphenated, one step ahead of you :) It's right here: http://pastebin.com/38853912:11
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shinumarska: install bum and remove gdm startoff at bootup12:11
Hikaru79The winxp partition is on /dev/hdb1 so (hd1,0) is correct12:11
marskaAnd some stupid f*ck is playing madonna12:11
marskaA bit too loud..12:11
shinumarska: hit him12:12
shinushovel!12:12
marskaGods answer to everything12:12
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naliothviolence in #ubuntu-offtopic please (it has tiled floors)12:12
Madpilotbluefoxicy: it could be limited to read-with-sudo as well as write-with-sudo, I guess...12:12
shinusorry12:12
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marska"Oh Lord! What should I do?" God: Bash him in the face with a shovel12:12
tritiummarska: no religion either, please12:12
marskaSorry12:13
marskaOkay.. I'll do that now12:13
marskaThanks12:13
Hendrichow can i fix this problem: RPC not registered <-- wen mounting NFS sharing???12:13
hondjeportmap12:13
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Hendricportmap is installed and running12:13
Hikaru79hyphenated, you still there/ :912:14
Hikaru79*? :(12:14
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Hendricthis happens when i do a server install.. then adds the NFS portmap packages12:14
Hendricif i do a normal install.. then this doesn't happen12:14
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kemikHendric:  add the nfs-packages12:15
Hendrickemik, everything has been installed.. NFS common, server, PORTMAP12:15
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Hendricand everything is running12:15
kemikHendric:  hmmm... that's weird12:15
kemikHendric:  and portmap is running ?12:15
Hendricyeah.. protmap is running12:16
kemikyou got nfs-common on the client aswell ?12:16
Hendricthis only happen when you do a Server install... this does not happen on a normal install.. some kinda bug..12:16
Hendrickemik, yes.12:16
kemiksounds weird yeah..12:16
Hikaru79I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?12:16
kemiknfs-kernel-server ? :/12:16
Hendricmy other 3pcs done with normal install can mount NFS drives... but not for these pcs with "server" install12:17
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Hendrickemik, i have installed that12:17
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kemikfile a bug perhaps.. but sounds really unlikely that it would be a bug12:18
kemik:|12:18
ajeet /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hello12:18
Hendricwaw12:18
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kemikajeet:  that's not how you do it ;)12:18
Hendricwatta identify12:18
rerunhi channel12:18
tristanmikelooks like a new password in your future12:18
kemikajeet:  and, erh, change that password ;)12:18
boxerboy29shouldnt they have those packages in synaptic after normal install?12:19
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ajeetshit, how do I change it?12:19
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laseritehi! does anybody know how can i tell dhclient to log to other file instead of /var/log/syslog?? thnx!12:19
Madpilotajeet: /msg NickServ help12:19
tristanmikeajeet, /msg nickserv help12:19
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tristanmikeMadpilot, curses!12:19
reruni am working away from home and need a forum link- i am trying to turn off tty3-6, and pie error logs to tty8, but can't remeber the file12:19
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slewwhat compiler do i need to compile programs? checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables12:20
slew. i installed gcc and cl, but it still wont compile. =[12:20
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ajeetNo reply from nickserve?12:20
kemikslew:  build-essential12:20
rekrutacjaajeet /msg nickserv help set12:20
slewthanks12:20
tristanmikeajeet, no "e" on the end12:20
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boxerboy29nickserv not nickserve12:21
slewkemik, apt-get build-essential?12:21
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Hendricajeet, /ns set password <newpassword>12:21
kemikslew:  yea12:21
Hendricajeet, you need to identify first..12:21
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olicathi all. im using the latest breezy, is anyone else havin problems mounting usb devices?12:21
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haasteemhi, is anyone using zina as graphical interface for their mp3 collection?12:22
Hendricolicat, there are some issues with usb devices12:22
haasteemi'm not sure how to get it to work...12:22
boxerboy29does anyone know if ajeet registered his name before trying that?12:22
slewkemik, thanks, sending woman over for your oral pleasure..12:22
kemikslew:  sounds good ;)12:22
tritiumslew: none of that, please12:22
mwright1nightANyone know what version of oo will be shiped on Oct 13, currently it's an incompatible 1.1.4 which isn't much good12:22
boxerboy29oo212:22
olicatHendric, do you know if there are any work arounds at the moment?12:22
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naliothslew: please watch your gift giving12:22
rekrutacjais there a comprehensive list of new packages introduced in breezy?12:22
mwright1nightit should be worst case 1.1.5 best case 2.0rc2 same build as on the Live CD12:22
ajeethello12:22
mwright1nightie win32 version12:22
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kemikslew:  they're abit stiff in here.. think #ubuntu-offtopic is better for gifts ;)12:22
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Hendricolicat, for webcams there is... for the mysterious synaptic error none12:23
tritiumkemik: nice...12:23
olicatHendric, how about usb pens?12:23
slewnalioth, sorry, a bit of humor went too far. :(12:23
Hendricolicat, haven't tried12:23
olicatHendric, ok thanks, ill keep trying12:23
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shinumarska: any luck? :P12:24
LasseLafter my upgrade it takes ages to log in. nautilus and metacity doesn't the first 3-4 minutes12:24
LasseLhow can I debug that?12:24
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fangoriousi have a fat32 file system mounted, but some characters in file/folder names aren't recognized (like spanish accented characters). is there a mount option i can use to fix that?12:24
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ubuntu_Hello all12:24
Hendrichey, can anyone help me solve this RPC program not registered stuff.. wen mounting nfs drives.. sounds to me a MOUNT error no NFS12:24
tritiumLasseL: there's a current bug that we're experiencing.  Give the devs some time to work it out.12:24
kemikLasseL:  i'd do a clean breezy install... seems upgrading isnt as painless as one had hoped12:25
Hendric*not12:25
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ubuntu_I am now running ubuntu live cd only because I think, after two weeks of diddling around with it, that ubuntu is FAR FAR away from a decent OS12:25
ubuntu_ I use BeOs and found that, even though it was dead in 1999, it is more advanced than ubuntu12:25
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ubuntu_ Sorry guys had to tell someone12:26
KyralHere pal you are gonna need it12:26
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Hikaru79I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?12:26
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kemikubuntu_:  #ubuntu-offtopic ;)12:26
tritiumubuntu_: don't apologize.  Few will agree with or believe you12:26
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ParisiWhat is a good free divx codec?12:26
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ubuntu_vlc has most codecs in it12:27
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slew Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13 gnet-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met... i tried apt-get install gtk+-2.0 but got nothing. where do i get these libs?12:27
naliothubotu: tell Parisi about w32codecs12:27
kemikParisi:  use vlc or get w32codecs12:27
rekrutacjais beagle desktop dearch included in breezy?12:27
naliothslew: look for the ones ending in -dev12:27
rekrutacjasearch12:27
Bateau_isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?12:27
kemikslew:  apt-cache search <keyword>12:27
slewahh.. is there a site that explains all the apt-xxx options?12:28
Burgundaviarekrutacja, not by default12:28
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boxerboy29rekrutacja: beagle is not in ubuntu default install you have to get it from synaptic or apt-get install beagle or whatever name it uses12:28
tritiumslew: have you tried the manpage?12:28
tritiumBurgundavia: did you ever get the test email?12:28
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rekrutacjathanks12:28
kemikslew:  man apt-get12:29
kbrooksBurgundavia!12:29
boxerboy29anyone know how i can pull up like the funny man pages i installed before?12:29
Burgundaviatritium, I got one from robitaille. Turns out gmail was too smart for its own good12:29
kbrooksthat you?12:29
LasseL... and did I mention that X freezes with ATi drivers in breezy ?12:29
LasseLjust had to hit the reset button12:29
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tritiumBurgundavia: sounds interesting12:29
slewnothing happens when i try apt-cache search gtk+-2.0 :(12:29
rekrutacjaburgundavia boxerboy29 i was trying to use it on hoary, but couldn't get it running. is it more sable now?12:29
Burgundaviarekrutacja, yes, considerably12:29
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satafterhis there something similar to bearshare for linux12:30
winwhy does ubuntu use a different version system from debian?12:30
boxerboy29rekrutacja: i had it on suse and i hated it so i didnt bother with it on breezy12:30
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Burgundaviawin, what do you mean?12:30
naliothsatafterh: gtk-gnutella12:30
boxerboy29win: ubuntu isnt debian its debian based12:30
wini know12:31
satafterhi tried gtk-gnutella, found it very slow to download, is there something eles12:31
boxerboy29if im not mistaken debian uses the 22.4 kernel still12:31
rekrutacjaboxerboy29 desktop search is a mission critical aplication for me: is there anything except beagle what gives me that funcionality?12:31
jintxohi guys, anyone experiencing wierd squid errors (mostly when accessing passport.com or hotmail accounts) lately (squid on warty)12:31
boxerboy292.4*12:31
jintxo?12:31
naliothsatafterh: gnut or mutella12:31
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winbut if ubuntu use the same version system , it would benefit the whole community12:31
Burgundaviawin, I don't understand what you mean12:32
kemikboxerboy29:  at least the stablebranch does12:32
naliothwin: ubuntu and debian. while sharing a source base, are two different animals12:32
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HrdwrBobboxerboy29: stable yes, unstable no12:32
tritiumwin: there's no need for it12:32
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boxerboy29no sorry i dont know i dont use desktop search ultilties12:32
satafterhgnut or mutella whick is better?12:32
boxerboy29stable=sarge etch is beta still12:32
naliothsatafterh: use them both. and keep what you like12:32
Burgundaviarekrutacja, there is a python based beagle, but I have no idea how far along it is12:33
boxerboy29the point being ubuntu is not debian so things are gonna be different or it would be called debian ubuntu as it is with debian sarge12:33
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funkyHatboxerboy29, you can easily select a 2.6 kernel for debian if you want ;)12:33
funkyHatbut by default, yes, sarge is 2.412:34
funkyHatwin, debian and ubuntu serve different purposes12:34
boxerboy29yes that i know12:34
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winwell, i download the opera browser with .deb and it does not work with ubuntu, and i find out that ubuntu use different version system which i think is unnessary12:35
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feaceshello all12:35
Madpilotwin: there is a Ubuntu deb for Opera; I'm running it right now.12:35
rekrutacjaburgundavia i will look for it, but i dont like usuing beta software that much...12:35
boxerboy29it works if you use the ubuntu download for it and follow the install steps 3 times over :) j/k12:35
winnow other developer has to build another package just to provide another distro12:35
shorty114k i downloaded azureus but it came with this message:12:35
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feaceshey i got the linux vershion of quake 312:35
Burgundaviawin, read this http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth12:35
shorty114 $ ./azureus12:35
shorty114Starting Azureus...12:35
shorty114Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...12:35
shorty114ls: /usr/java: No such file or directory12:35
shorty114OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy12:35
shorty114You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com12:35
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Burgundaviawin, specifically, this question --> What about binary compatibility between distributions?12:35
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feacesand i did the sh setup.sh script to install12:36
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tritiumwin: no, not really12:36
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feacesbut it didn't gave me a bunch of errors12:36
naliothshorty114: please dont paste in here12:36
feacessorry12:36
newobquestion - how can you get the kernel sources after the update - can you just go to kernel.org?12:36
naliothnewob: they are available to you. use synaptic12:37
tritiumnewob: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 (on hoary)12:37
winburgundavia: between which distributions?12:37
tritium2.6.12 on breezy12:37
newobya im breezy12:37
RockyBurthm... when i try using menu's in firefox, the menu starts in an odd place  (see http://users.carterscove.com/~rocky/screenshot.jpg) .. anyone ever had that happen?12:37
newobit wasnt in the list12:37
Burgundaviawin, between any distro, and internally within Ubuntu12:37
shorty114is J2SE the same as JRE?12:37
shorty114i can't find JRE in the sidebar list on java.sun.com12:37
naliothubotu: tell shorty114 about javadeb12:37
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boxerboy29no not really i think j2se is full package jre is just the run time envornment12:38
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tritiumnewob: it's there.  apt-cache search linux-source12:38
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shorty114nalioth, it's the J2RE one, right?12:38
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newobso do i just apt-get that?12:39
tritiumnewob: yep12:39
ebbywhy dont avi's work out of the box in totem ???12:39
naliothshorty114: for the runtime, yes12:39
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Madpilotebby: because someone owns the avi format12:39
shorty114k thanks12:39
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Madpilot!tell ebby about restricted12:39
ebbyhm I had no idea avi was proprieary12:40
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shorty114ebby, microsoft's great, eh?12:40
frickelcan I change the sources.list enty http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe to http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe ???12:40
ebbyshorty114, lovely ;-)12:40
Madpilotebby: check the msg ubotu just sent you, that URL will take you thru installing all the codecs and stuff you need12:40
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naliothfrickel: yes, change hoary to breezy12:40
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shorty114nalioth, i dpkg -i'd the package file, and it went through alright, but when i try to run azureus again, it can't find the java binary12:41
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ebbyMadpilot, checking...12:41
coldhmm12:41
naliothshorty114: use synaptic to get rid of all your gnu java stuff12:41
frickelnalioth so I can change every hoary to breezy? also the hoary-update?12:41
shorty114k12:41
Se7hdamn i still have my pkg list broken, can anyone help me to fix it ?12:41
naliothubotu: tell frickel about upgrade2breezy12:41
colddoesn't ubuntu have a good library of software dev tools?12:41
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colddoes*12:41
naliothcold: yes it does. start with build-essential12:42
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Burgundaviacold, anything that is in debian is in Ubuntu, and more12:42
FunnyLookinHatAnyone know of a better cd ripper than sound juicer?  one thta supports CDDB or FreeDB hopefully?12:42
Se7hcold texteditor is good :P12:42
n0odl3i need help with playing "restricted formats"12:42
slewubuntu hates me. =[ i cant figure out how to install gtk+-2.012:42
naliothFunnyLookinHat: try grip12:42
coldhmm ok12:42
n0odl3i went to the page and followed the instructions but for some reason i still cant play mpegs12:42
FunnyLookinHatnalioth: thanks12:42
kemik!tell n0odl3 about restricted12:42
coldthanks guys12:42
coldI'm going to order the cds12:42
n0odl3kemik i already went to this page12:42
naliothslew: look for the libgtk-bleh"-dev" pkgs12:43
n0odl3i followed the instructions but it still does not work12:43
boxerboy29slew try searching for it in synaptic it should be there12:43
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slewi tried looking in synaptic but its not there. =[12:43
frickelnalioth: I know this page, but this html only tells to change this entry: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted12:43
shorty114nalioth, java-common?12:44
naliothfrickel: every place you see "hoary" change it. dont use backports (they are not up yet for breezy)12:44
shorty114i searched for "java" and out of the search results, it's the only one that is installed12:44
n0odl3everytime i run the "apt-get isntall totem-xine gstreamer0.8..." command i get that the package is unavailable12:44
slewcouldnt find package libgtk-2.012:44
naliothshorty114: just remove all java stuff (search in 'pkg names and contents") and reinstall your javadeb12:44
boxerboy29upgrading to breezy all entries should be changed to breezy with the excetion to the backports they should be taken out if useing the mirrormax backports12:44
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frickelnalioth: what do you mean: no backports?12:45
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naliothubotu: tell slew about synaptic12:45
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n0odl3does anyone know whats wrong?12:45
boxerboy29exception even12:45
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naliothfrickel: backports are not out for breezy, yet. having them in your sources.list is useless at this time12:45
Se7hn0odl3 use synaptic12:45
n0odl3how do i use synaptic?12:45
n0odl3how would i go about using it?12:46
Se7h'synaptic'12:46
n0odl3?12:46
frickelnalioth: ok, thx nalioth12:46
n0odl3do i just type it in12:46
naliothubotu: tell n0odl3 about synaptic12:46
boxerboy29system-admin-synaptic package manager12:46
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Se7h'sudo synaptic'12:46
newobi did sudo apt-get install kernel source - it told me to select one - but there is not one that matches my current one in the list12:46
Se7h/var/lib/dpkg/info/eclipse-jdt.postrm: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory12:46
Se7hthats whats annoying my mind for days12:47
Se7hand remove it12:47
Se7hnor install it12:47
JDigitalSynaptic is available in the System -> Adminstration menu12:47
Se7h*i cant remove it12:47
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shorty114nalioth, do i want to remove java-common?12:47
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RockyBurtbah, why is it that whenever i open any window it opens maximized?12:47
naliothshorty114: yes12:48
shorty114k12:48
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Se7hdoes anyone has a good answer for me ?12:48
Bateau_isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?12:48
Se7h(hint)12:48
Maikeruwhereis php12:49
Maikeruwhereis php412:49
newobanwer for what ?12:49
Maikeruwhereis php312:49
newobanswer12:49
Maikeruw/e it is12:49
n0odl3wait i got synaptic out but the gstreamer package and the totem package is blocked out12:49
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Blejdfist/usr/bin/php412:49
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frickelubotu: tell frickel about synaptic12:49
Se7hnewob for my half-installed eclipse that i cant remove12:49
frickelhehe, this bot is nice12:49
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newobyou did a search in synaptic?12:49
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Se7hnewob come again ?12:50
naliothfrickel: you need to identify to services to use ubotu effectively12:50
newobdid you install it from command line ?12:50
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Se7hnewob i've tried all the ways12:50
Se7hprob is12:50
frickelnalioth: how can I identify to services12:50
Se7hthe pkg is bogus12:50
naliothfrickel: /msg nickserv help register12:50
Blejdfistubotu: tell Blejdfist about the answer to life, the universe and everything12:50
Se7hand know i cant remove it nor complete the installation12:51
Blejdfist:(12:51
newobso maybe check actual package and search hard drive for those files and delete them?12:51
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shorty114nalioth, same problem when i try to run azureus12:51
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KyralAnyone know how I would set my current iptables rules to come into effect when I start my machine?12:51
naliothshorty114: you probably have not removed all your java12:51
newoblinux headers = kernel source ?12:52
shorty114nalioth, i removed java-common, another java package12:52
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n0odl3when i follow the directions on the restricted page12:52
molarmanI need help12:52
n0odl3at the point where i type sudo apt-get update12:52
newobspeak up12:52
naliothmolarman: we need a question12:52
n0odl3i get some errors saying12:52
molarmanwhat are the supported web cam for ubuntu?12:52
newobwell what are they?12:52
n0odl3lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock12:53
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boxerboy29you have anoither apt session going somewhere?12:53
n0odl3and also unable to lock administration12:53
n0odl3etc12:53
Kyralanyone?12:53
boxerboy29that was for n0odl312:53
n0odl3oh12:53
n0odl3so what should i do?12:53
n0odl3boxerboy29?12:53
boxerboy29n0odl3: also try sudo apt-get update12:53
molarmanwhat are the supported webcams for ubuntu?12:53
n0odl3k ill try now12:54
naliothn0odl3: you can only run one instance of apt-get at a time (and you have to use sudo to do it)12:54
newobthe cheapest ones probably12:54
n0odl3i am sudo right now12:54
newoblike any hardware12:54
naliothn0odl3: then close all your apt instances12:54
wheinok guys im having serious X troubles out of the blue here12:54
n0odl3how do i close all my apt instances?12:54
boxerboy29synaptic=an apt session12:54
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ompauln0odl3, are you running syaptic ?12:54
naliothn0odl3: check all your windows and close all apt-get synaptic adept kynaptic kpackage aptitude or dpkg12:55
boxerboy29also save and close the sources list12:55
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wheinwhen i login via the gdm then it tryes to start X it gives me some error that ICEsomething doesnt have uid=0 so it cant create /dev/X12:55
wheinso then x doesnt start12:55
n0odl3i did save and close the sources list12:55
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jintxohi guys, anyone experiencing wierd squid errors (mostly when accessing passport.com or hotmail accounts) lately (squid on warty)?12:55
wheini closed X and logged in as root then started X and it worked12:55
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wheinbut i dont wanna run as root12:56
n0odl3whgen i tried the sudo get update12:56
n0odl3i got a GPG error12:56
FR500hello12:56
n0odl3saying something about no pubkey12:56
boxerboy29gpg for what?12:56
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n0odl3it says the public key is not available12:56
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n0odl3then it told me to try apt-get and when i do it tells met he same thing12:57
naliothn0odl3: disregard. it wont affect your software installation (except that you are using nonofficial repos)12:57
n0odl3ok12:57
n0odl3so i go on to the next step?12:57
boxerboy29this is the fun part of upgrade lmao12:57
dave321ubotu: list repositories repository12:57
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dave32112:57
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slewok, well ive done all i think i can with synaptic but the program still says "consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them." :( i cant find the package the program needs to do the ./configure [gtk+-2.0]  in synaptic. i did the libgtk-dev and it installed but i still cant get the program to install. any other hints?12:58
dave321ubotu: help12:58
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Madpilot!tell dave321 about repos12:58
dave321thanks12:58
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anethemacan anyone help me? x wont start unless i log in as root12:59
dave321Is there a package for java-vtk?  If there is it's not in the repositories I'm using!01:00
naliothdave321: java-vtk?01:00
FR500anethema, how did you install ubuntu? server install?01:00
n0odl3sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is this one whole command or is it seperate?01:00
naliothn0odl3: that will work01:00
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anethemainstalled a long time ago01:01
anethemadesktop install01:01
anethemai just found out01:01
anethemawill start for any user but my main one01:01
anethemaso it must be a session thing01:01
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anethemaor gnome01:01
anethemaor somehting01:01
anethemai dont know how to find out01:01
anethemaor fix it01:01
n0odl3ok when i type this i got this message:Package totem-xine is not available, but is reffered to by another package01:01
naliothn0odl3: install totem-gstreamer01:02
hablandocontigoI have to ISA ethernet cards on my 233 mhz IBM Aptiva that Knoppix 3.4, Xandros 3.0RCx, and Ubuntu live 5.10(probably older version) didn't detect, what can I try?01:02
n0odl3ok01:02
hablandocontigotwo*01:02
anethemasome ICEauthority or something01:02
n0odl3where would i do that?01:02
hyphenatedHikaru79: back now. did you post your menu.lst in that pastebin?01:02
naliothanethema: oh! thats easy and a known bug01:02
naliothanethema: just rm the ~/.ICEauthority01:03
Hikaru79hyphenated, welcome back.01:03
Hikaru79Yes, I did.01:03
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anethemaniice01:03
rawiramdhanhow do I restart ssh server01:03
Hikaru79hyphenated, it's at: http://pastebin.com/38853901:03
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anethemaill try it thanks a bunch nalioth01:03
jintxohablandocontigo, you will probably have to look into using "isapnp" to get the cards initialized01:03
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Hikaru79rawiramdhan, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart01:03
naliothanethema: it happens when nautilus gets root privs01:03
n0odl3here would i get totem gstreamer01:03
dave321nalioth: Which repository is it part of?01:04
n0odl3*where01:04
anethemai never ever gave nautilus root privs01:04
GTroycan anyone tell me where I can find my universe mirrors?01:04
anethemabut ill try it now thanks a bunch01:04
naliothdave321: which what is part of?01:04
dave321nalioth: java-vtk01:04
anethemaworked! thanks a whooooooooole bunch nalioth :D01:04
hablandocontigojintxo: thanks for the tip01:04
anethemanow i know01:04
anethemaehhe01:04
gfxstylernalioth: do you mean when i start nautilus as root i get the same error?01:04
naliothdave321: i have no idea what java-vtk is01:05
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n0odl3i tried typing totem gstreamer and it tells me i have no directory01:05
n0odl3or the no such file01:05
naliothgfxstyler: if nautilus is feeling naughty, you might01:05
boxerboy29GTroy: in the updater click preferences and than settings than check the 3 empty boxes than close now click all the empty boxes in the sources list01:05
naliothn0odl3: totem-gstreamer01:05
gfxstylernalioth: damn o.O" i just started it as root for 3 times01:05
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hyphenatedHikaru79: mine doesn't use rootnoverify. instead it has a "root (hd1,0)", and on the next line, "savedefault"01:05
n0odl3now its telling me too few arguments01:05
dave321nalioth: VTK (visualization tool kit) with java bindings, thanks though01:05
GTroythank you boxerboy2901:05
Hikaru79hyphenated, this exact line worked before upgrading to hoary (back on warty)01:06
boxerboy29gtroy your welcome good luck01:06
rawiramdhanwhere can I find my ssh config?01:06
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jintxohablandocontigo, been a long time since I've had ISA hardware, but the way it worked is a) you use isapnp to scan the cards in your system and create an isapnp.conf file b) you edit the file to your needs c) you make sure isapnp runs at system boot and possibly d) you tell the modules (drivers) for your ISA hardware the addresses/irqs where the cards are.01:06
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gfxstylerrawiramdhan: somewhere in /etc :D01:06
HrdwrBobe) you throw it away and get a computer made in the last 5 years01:06
jintxoright01:06
gfxstylerlol01:06
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rawiramdhanthanx:) i whas looking in init.d :$01:07
hyphenatedHikaru79: you're probably using a newer version of grub now. it also probably behaves slightly differently. the settings I have are from hoary install01:07
n0odl3what am i suppose to do if it says too few arguments?01:07
spiderwormhi all, im trying to get encrypted dvd playback to work, i have libdvdcss installed and everything but its saying it can't read the encryption... is there something im missing?01:07
Hikaru79I see, hyphenated. Can you PM me your exact entry?01:07
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naliothspiderworm: libdvdcss2?01:07
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gfxstylerrawiramdhan: /etc/ssh/ssh_config01:08
spiderwormnalioth: indeed01:08
anethemanalioth, thanks again :D01:08
n0odl3help01:08
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slakHI01:08
lampshadeHey what's the ndiswrapper like on Ubuntu?  Can I just aptget it down and use it?  (I have a laptop that just plopped into my hands with no pcmcia slot and a usb wireless Dlink adapter.)01:08
gfxstylerHI01:08
slakI NEED A HAND I GOT MY DICK STUCK IN MY FLOPPY DRIVE AND YES ITS THAT SMALL01:09
naliothanethema: ~/.ICEauthority is rewritten with each session, so it doeant hurt to rm it01:09
lampshadeso I guess what I'm asking is how easy would it be for me to get wireless setup quickly01:09
naliothslak: dont do that01:09
seethruslak: your fault, re-roll life01:09
slakANYWAYS ITS SAYING I NEED FLOPPY.SO.400 IN ORDER TO REMOVE IT01:09
lampshadeslak:  PRESS EJECT01:09
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kevogodslak, Well, first off, you will need some sort of lubrication.01:09
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n0odl3wait01:09
n0odl3help01:09
slakI NEED A NEW DRIVER01:09
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seethrunalioth: quick, grab the ban hammer01:09
kevogodslak, Use lubrication and then be brave.01:09
lampshadeoh god hahhaha01:09
n0odl3what do i do if it says i have too few arguements01:09
naliothslak: stop with the caps please and try to get on topic01:10
WhyvasLTftp server with a gui?01:10
n0odl3?01:10
HrdwrBobWhyvasLT: no01:10
nxv_my external usb soundcard resists to play. everything seems to be setup fine. alsa mixer shows me the controls they are unmuted etc. but write on it is blocked. when i do cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp1 it just blocks writing. no error. no playing. just like a blocked writebuffer01:10
n0odl3where do i obtain totem-gstreamer?01:10
slakok ill stay on topic01:10
gfxstylerlampshade: ndiswrapper is working fine here01:10
n0odl3it keeps on telling me i have too few arguements...01:10
slakSO OK I WAS FUCKING NALIOTHS MOM UP THE ASS LASTNIGHT AND SHE WAS ALL LIKE01:11
slakOOO OOO01:11
naliothn0odl3: try them one at a time01:11
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seethruslicslak: holy shit gtfo01:11
lampshadegfxstyler:  Was it easy to do?  My time is short that's why I gotta have it be easy and nice01:11
gfxstylern0odl3: then why dont you start it with more arguments?01:11
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n0odl3nalioth what do you mean?01:11
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naliothn0odl3: try installing your pkgs one a time or use synaptic (synaptic is easy to use)01:11
hyphenatednalioth: thanks for keeping the peace01:12
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n0odl3so you mean type install totem01:12
naliothmy mom passed away in April, so i hope slak had fun01:12
n0odl3then type install gstreamer?01:12
naliothn0odl3: use synaptic01:12
gfxstylerlampshade: yes i think it was easy (i downloaded ndiswrapper 1.2, unpacked it, typed "make && make install (as root)" then "modprobe ndiswrapper;echo "ndiswrapper" >> /etc/modules", done01:12
n0odl3ok01:12
fangoriouswhat's the command to launch the printer admin tool?01:12
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hablandocontigojintxo: my guess it that I wouldn't have to set up ISA parameters for the newest distros which would do that automagically, what do you think?01:12
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gfxstylerlampshade: dont know about the one thats in the ubuntu repositories, though (my wlan card needs ndiswrapper 1.2)01:13
n0odl3naolith i have a lot of streamer files01:13
jintxohablandocontigo, i don't know if ubuntu uses the isapnp stuff or not. i'm talking from experience from 2000 or so, so myu info may not be up to date, heh :-p01:13
lampshadegfxstyler:  Thanks!01:13
n0odl3do install all of them including the ones that are blocked out01:13
naliothn0odl3: do you have all of your repos enabled?01:13
nxv_dmesg complains: [4299401.439000]  cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, err = -2801:14
butcherbirdI apt-get removed apache, decided to reinstall it today (Hoary) and its not creating all the conf files, modules.conf is missing.. can someone pastebin it? or explain why its doing that?01:14
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n0odl3how do i check that?01:14
hablandocontigojintxo: I could use the freshest knoppix version eitherway success of failure, thanks01:14
naliothubotu: tell n0odl3 about sources01:14
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naliothubotu: tell n0odl3 about repos01:14
jintxohablandocontigo, I do see there exists a package called isapnptools, if you want to play with the stuff01:14
gfxstylerubotu: tell n0odl3 about wizdom01:15
slewgrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i was able to compile the same program with mandriva with no problems, ubuntu hates slew. ;(01:15
hablandocontigojintxo: thanks01:15
gfxstylerubotu: tell gfxstyler about something01:15
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gfxstylerdamn it doesnt work :D01:15
naliothslew: join #kubuntu-offtopic please and i'll help you01:15
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gfxstylerubotu: tell gfxstyler about everything01:16
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slewcant, i gotta make dinner, thanks though. maybe it will work after a reboot. ;) thanks for your paitence though.01:16
slewhave a good one..01:16
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drraknis there an equivalent to the Linux Trace Toolkit that ships with Breezy?01:16
fangoriouswhat's the printer admin tool?01:17
aclonedsheepHi, should I be concerned if my laptop is frozen on an empty blue screen right after I selected "repartition the hd and partition 1..."01:17
hsqrdis there anyone here that might be able to help me with some sound issues i've been experiencing after installing ubuntu?01:17
drraknI'm trying to troubleshoot harddrive spindown issues01:17
naliothubotu: tell hsqrd about sound01:17
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gfxstylerubotu: tell gfxstyler about you01:18
Madpilotfangorious: System menu - Administration - Printing01:18
tyler_durdendoes this work for anyone? apt-get install rar01:18
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tyler_durdenits on the ubuntuguide website but it doesnt work01:18
naliothtyler_durden: use unrar-nonfree01:18
Blejdfisttyler_durden: install unrar-nonfree01:18
hajikiubotu, ati!01:18
tyler_durdenits not free?01:18
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx01:18
Blejdfisttyler_durden: the nonfree-version can handle RAR3-archives01:18
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fangoriousMadpilot, can you check what command that calls? (i don't have local access at the moment, just ssh)01:18
shadeofgreyhi everybody -- i have a few questions for those of you out there into digital content creation..  specifically quetions about using scanners in ubuntu01:18
Madpilottyler_durden: you need the Multiverse repo enabled to get rar itself01:18
drrakntyler_durden: gratis, but not libre01:19
aclonedsheepanyone?01:19
Blejdfisttyler_durden: yes it's free.. but the nonfree isn't opensource01:19
tyler_durdeni just need to unrar a .rar file01:19
tyler_durdenoh ok01:19
gfxstylernalioth: thanks, i got it :)01:19
deliretyler_durden: it comes with conditions..01:19
synackuatorif you modprobe something, will it automatically load when you reboot?01:19
Madpilotfangorious: I'm not sure, I think it's gnome-printer-admin or something like that01:19
naliothaclonedsheep: kill your laptop01:19
naliothaclonedsheep: get a livecd01:19
aclonedsheepand see if it works?01:19
deliretyler_durden: that disallow open use of the software..01:19
tyler_durdenand where did xterminal go?! i remember having it before01:19
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naliothaclonedsheep: no, use the livecd to partition01:19
drraknsynackuator: no01:19
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aclonedsheepoh01:19
freddyhello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks01:20
aclonedsheepwhy woudlnt the bootable work01:20
naliothtyler_durden: hit alt-f2 and type gnome-terminal01:20
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shadeofgreyi know that in windows you havce to have the drivers for the given device (in this instrance, a cannon 650U) and tawin driver support enabled....  how does one go about scanning full page color documents and then acquiring them thru Gimp??01:20
tyler_durdeni wanted xterminal, isnt that a gui terminal?01:20
naliothaclonedsheep: with the live, you shouldnt have any freezes01:20
tyler_durdeni had it before01:20
aclonedsheepcool01:20
naliothtyler_durden: then type xterm instead01:20
Madpilotshadeofgrey: with SANE01:20
freddyhello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks01:20
synackuatordrrakn: how do you get them to load automatically?  some config file?01:20
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tyler_durdenoh yeah that was it01:20
aclonedsheepill dl the dvd image nad burn that01:20
gfxstylersynackuator: /etc/modules01:20
drraknsynackuator: /etc/modules01:20
tyler_durdenok ty. and it wont find apt-get install unrar-nonfree01:20
freddyhello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks01:21
naliothtyler_durden: someone told you to enable your repos01:21
aclonedsheepthanks a lot01:21
tyler_durdenhow do i do that?01:21
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shadeofgreyfurthermore -- would someone please help me out with zip files...  whats the terminal command i would use to decompress a bunch of zip files all in the same directory and then move everything BUT the zips into a seperate folder??01:21
drrakntyler_durden: add multiverse to your repros from the menu in synaptic01:21
naliothubotu: tell tyler_durden about repos01:21
Madpilottyler_durden: that's also in Multiverse - do you have that repo enabled?01:21
gfxstylertyler_durden: maybe you need to add "universe multiverse" to your repositories01:21
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tyler_durdenlol im so confused01:21
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tyler_durdeni dont even know what you guys are talking about01:21
Zedmanfreddy: dpkg-reconfigure locales01:21
tyler_durdenmutliverse?01:22
naliothtyler_durden: read the msg ubotu sent you01:22
aclonedsheepthe link the for install/live dvd on the website is dead01:22
drraknshadeofgrey: unzip --help (check out the -d option)01:22
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tyler_durdeni will01:22
tyler_durdenthanks01:22
n0odl3nalioth i did what the instructions said for repos01:22
n0odl3do i install all of them including the green boxes?01:22
naliothn0odl3: now in synaptic, hit 'reload' at the top left01:22
freddyZedman, do you know wich locales should i pick?01:23
durtgdkxft has no effect. What am i missing?01:23
freddyshiet01:23
naliothn0odl3: no, just find the ones you posted in here earlier and check the boxes01:23
freddyhe is gone01:23
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freddydoes anyone know wich locales should i pick in the dpkg-reconfig locales thingy?01:23
naliothfreddy: which locale do you want?01:23
egon_spenglerfreddy Where do you live?01:23
freddyvenezuela01:24
butcherbirdwell that was stupid all I needed to do was dpkg --purge..01:24
freddyi dont know what a locale is01:24
freddylol01:24
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delirefreddy: most simply, it's region based language support.01:24
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egon_spenglerfreddy, Is your ubuntu in Spanish or English01:24
freddyright now..english01:25
freddybut i want to change it to spanish...my mom hates her laptop in english01:25
StarKruzrHi, guys.  I just tried to install alien via synaptic and it's asking me for my ubuntu CD (I don't have one) to install html2text, which is a dependency of alien.  What gives?01:25
egon_spenglerfreddy If you wish spanish try one of the es locales then01:25
freddyso i have to change it01:25
naliothfreddy: look for es i believe01:25
delirefreddy: try EU_es01:25
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gfxstylerStarKruzr: use the internet ubuntu repositories01:26
delirefreddy: though you're not in the EU so there may be a VE_es or similar01:26
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durtStarKruzr: you might try commenting out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list01:26
StarKruzrI have them set already, gfx.01:26
boxerboy29is dapper out for beta yet?01:26
StarKruzrdurt: Thanks01:26
naliothStarKruzr: edit your sources.list and comment out the cdrom line01:26
freddyi found es_VE that looks familiar01:26
bimberiStarKruzr: edit sources.list, comment out the "deb cdrom" line, update repositories, retry01:26
naliothboxerboy29: let the devs finish breezy01:26
delirefreddy: sorry, yeah that's it.01:26
freddyproblem is, im afraid that all the configurations i already made might get lost01:27
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Jerichi just have a small question, I did a custom install of Ubuntu, i did X -configure, but now, only my xfce4 is in 8bits01:27
boxerboy29yeah i know i have a stand alone im not sure what to put on it and dapper would have been nice to see what theyve donejust courios too01:27
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synackuatordoes anyone know of a good wlan-ng howto, i can't get my wlan0 to even show up in breezy01:28
MortiOkay. Installing Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop, it crashes when it loads hotplug but hotplug works fine on the livecd. How do I fix this?01:28
gfxstylerboxerboy29: is dapper the ubuntu version after breezy?01:28
boxerboy29yes01:28
naliothgfxstyler: dapper drake, yes01:28
MortiTo clarify, it freezes the whole machine when it tries to load hotplug on the Ubuntu I've installed.01:28
LittleDanhow can I read stuff from a thumbdrive?01:28
StarKruzr(p.s. "reload package information" in synaptic is same as "apt-get update," yes?01:28
StarKruzr)01:28
GTroyhow would I ping mirrors installed from terminal?01:28
gfxstylerthanks01:28
naliothStarKruzr: yes01:28
shadeofgreyokay i still need help wiuth unzipping01:28
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GTroyoooh sorry installed from updater01:29
drraknsynackuator: have you tried a debian-version of the wlan-ng howto?01:29
GTroyping in terminal01:29
shadeofgreyapparently wildcards like *.* are not valid in linux?01:29
boxerboy29ok bbl gonna throw breez7 on there for the g/f to learn01:29
n0odl3nalioth when i clicked apply01:29
drraknsynackuator: that worked for me a few years back when I was using it01:29
freddyshadeofgrey, they are01:29
spiderwormcan anyone help?  im running kde and have the libdvdcss2 libraries installed, but whenever i try to play something in mplayer or xine, it says it cant read it... i know it at least detects it because in xine it gives the name of the dvd im trying to play, but it wont play it...01:29
drraknsynackuator: and I imagine that it might still work on ubuntu01:29
n0odl3its asking me to insert Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)01:29
n0odl3in drive /cdrom/01:29
shadeofgreyi need to know how to use unzip to decompress all the zipfiles in a giuven directory and move the contents of each iunto a directory called 'extracted'01:29
anethema!faq01:29
ubotuit has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/01:29
n0odl3do i put in the ubuntu install cd?01:30
butcherbirdOk on the default hoary apache package what dir do I need to put my cgi and pl scripts in? Looking at config file I /cgi-bin/ is aliased to /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ but that dont work01:30
drraknshadeofgrey: did you see my earlier comment? you want the -d <extracted> flag01:30
gfxstylershadeofgrey: man unzip01:30
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naliothn0odl3: do you have the cd?01:30
bimberiGTroy: do you mean repository mirrors? - ping au.archive.ubuntu.com (or whatever is in /etc/apt/sources.list)01:30
tyler_durdennalioth i did that, now it says there is no installation candidate01:30
n0odl3yes i have the install cd01:30
n0odl3do i put that in?01:30
shadeofgreyi tried the following:  unzip *.zip -d /home/shadeofgrey/downloads/Fonts/extracted01:30
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naliothtyler_durden: use synaptic and search for "unrar"  choose the unrar-nonfree version01:31
naliothn0odl3: it asked for it01:31
drraknshadeofgrey: try it with one zip file at a time01:31
MortiAnyone have any potential answers to my problem of hotplug crashing the system on my Toshiba laptop?01:31
n0odl3ok01:31
tyler_durdenoh good idea i keep forgetting that synpatic is easier01:31
naliothMorti: not atm, it seems01:31
shadeofgreythat'd take friggin forever!01:31
naliothtyler_durden: so is identifying to services01:31
GTroythanks bimberi!01:31
shadeofgreyi have 450 font file zips to extract01:31
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bimberiGTroy: yw :)01:32
tyler_durdenbtw, lets say nvidia just released a new driver, how long will it take before synpatic/apt-get has it?01:32
drraknshadeofgrey: you might be able to do: for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" -d /extractedpath; done01:32
naliothshadeofgrey: wildcards are your friends01:32
synackuatordrrakn, I tried a hoary one and it didn't work - the prism2_cs module doesn't do anything01:32
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synackuatordrrakn, pcmcia is good in lsmod though01:32
StarKruzrare any of you familiar with the game Ur-Quan Masters (formerly Star Control 2)?01:32
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drraknsynackuator: is prism2_cs the wlan-ng module?01:32
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GameGodStarKruzr: I played it a few years back, but don't remember a lot about it01:33
drraknsynackuator: actually, I remember that being buggered01:33
n0odl3hey naolith01:33
synackuatordrrakn, i guess so - i don't know what else is01:33
StarKruzrGameGod: trying to install it, says it needs package "uqm-content," which as far as I can tell doesn't exist01:33
n0odl3thanks you are a frikkin genius01:33
drraknsynackuator: make sure your pcmcia net.config hint points at the right driver01:33
drraknsynackuator: I think "first one wins"01:33
n0odl3uhh just for my reference if i ever have to install java01:33
StricklinI don't suppose there's an easy way to convert a Thunderbird prefs.js file on Windows to one on Linux, is there?01:33
drraknsynackuator: I really hated wlan-ng ;)01:34
tyler_durden? no one knows? nalioth?01:34
spiderwormxine even says: using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for dvd access...01:34
n0odl3all i have to do is get the deb package then01:34
ompwhen is breezy going to be released?01:34
naliothubotu: tell n0odl3 about javadeb01:34
spiderwormbut still won't play the dvd....01:34
synackuatordrrakn, what would be the alternative for prism2 cards?01:34
naliothtyler_durden: what dont i know?01:34
n0odl3type in the command: sudo dkpg -i filename01:34
n0odl3correct?01:34
GameGodStarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=uqm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all01:34
tyler_durdenbtw, lets say nvidia just released a new driver, how long will it take before synpatic/apt-get has it?01:34
naliothomp: see /topic01:34
tyler_durden^^ nalioth01:34
GameGodsays the package exists for hoary01:34
ompnalioth: thanks ;)01:34
naliothtyler_durden: backports may pick it up within weeks01:34
drraknsynackuator: duno, it's been a while since I used something that didn't work with stock drivers. lucky I guess.01:34
tyler_durdenic01:34
drraknsynackuator: just my usb adaptors still need wlan-ng and those are in the closet ;)01:35
n0odl3thats all i have to do right nalioth?01:35
naliothn0odl3: correct. on any deb you need01:35
synackuatordrrakn, so where is this pcmcia net.config located??01:35
drraknsynackuator: found it. look in /etc/pcmcia/config and see if the right driver is being loaded for your card01:35
StarKruzrGameGod: But not for breezy?01:35
n0odl3iok01:35
n0odl3thanx nalioth01:35
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n0odl3im sorry about your mom too01:35
n0odl3my condolences01:35
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n0odl3im out01:36
drraknsynackuator: I vagely recall that being a problem at one point01:36
maxmousewhen using fgl_glxgears what is a good fps for a radeon 9800 pro?01:36
Avenokies...01:36
GameGodStarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=uqm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all    ... oops, searched for hoary packages... looks like it's there for breezy too01:36
drraknsynackuator: you might scrape some debugging hints from /var/log/* too01:36
gfxstylermaxmouse: does that matter?01:36
Avenhey01:36
AvenI typed: apt-get install php01:37
AvenI get: E: Couldn't find package php401:37
maxmousegfxstyler, ya i wanna know if its running at full speed ?01:37
gfxstylermaxmouse: its no benchmark01:37
drraknsynackuator: but is has been a long time since I had to troubleshoot cardctrl01:37
shadeofgreyokay guys... whydowent this work01:37
Avenhow do I exactly install php? :\01:37
maxmouseok how can i benchmark in linux ?01:37
naliothAven: use synaptic01:37
StarKruzrGameGod: sudo apt-get install uqm says "not available, referred to by another package"01:37
StarKruzrwhat source are you looking at?01:37
Avennalioth: what's that? and how?01:37
drraknmaxmouse: benchmark what?01:37
Aven:P01:37
maxmousevideo01:37
gfxstylermaxmouse: ati cards never run on full speed with the damned fglrx driver :)01:37
MadpilotAven: search Synaptic, and I think PHP is in the Universe repo01:37
GameGodhmm01:37
naliothubotu: tell Aven about synaptic01:37
maxmousegfxstyler, what driver should i use then?01:37
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GameGodStarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com01:37
gfxstylermaxmouse: you have to use it01:38
GameGodSays it's in multiverse01:38
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StarKruzro_O01:38
StarKruzr"multiverse?"01:38
tyler_durdenhey how come my gaim wont appear on the taskbar anymore? i just got rid of the seperator and it wont appear there01:38
GameGodone sec01:38
tyler_durdeneven though the taskbar icon is checked01:38
drrakntyler_durden: you probably dragged the "notification area" off your taskbar01:38
naliothubotu: tell StarKruzr about sources01:38
tyler_durdenoh probably01:38
tyler_durdeni thought it was just a seperator01:38
Madpilottyler_durden: if you got rid of the 'seperator' near the clock, that's your notification area01:39
StarKruzrubotu doesn't appear to want to talk to me.01:39
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StarKruzrI asked it about something before and it ignored me01:39
drraknnope, that's just how you can drag it around01:39
naliothubotu appears to be suffering from bsod01:39
tyler_durdenyes you're right01:39
gfxstylerubotu is pissed off :D hehe01:39
tyler_durdeni added it. thanks01:39
GameGodone sec star01:39
drraknmight be wise to file an enhancement to prevent people from doing that easily :P01:39
shadeofgreyunzip *.zip -d /home/shadeofgrey/download/Fonts/extracted gives the error:  "filename not matched"01:39
StarKruzrGameGod: thank you01:39
spiderwormno ubuntu dvd buffs in here then?01:39
GameGodAnyone: Is multiverse a default repository in Ubuntu?01:39
gfxstyleri would be too ... the same answers over and over again ... lol *g*01:39
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Dr_Willisshadeofgrey,  you wanting to unzip several zips?01:39
MadpilotGameGod: no, it's not01:39
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GameGodok01:39
GameGodStarKruzr, one sec01:40
Madpilot!tell StarKruzr about repos01:40
GameGodThat's the problem probably01:40
shadeofgreyDr_Will:  yessir...   a few hundred01:40
Dr_Willisshadeofgrey,  try unzip '*.zip'01:40
GameGodya01:40
naliothStarKruzr: open using sudo /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with 'universe' in them. space once after 'universe' and add 'multiverse' to both lines01:40
StarKruzrit's not working, Madpilot01:40
GameGodcrap brb01:40
drraknshadeofgrey: shadeofgrey you probably need to escape the *01:40
StarKruzrnalioth: so for every line with universe, put universe multiverse?01:40
gfxstylershadowofgrey: how about "man unzip" or "unzip --help" ?01:40
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Dr_Willisthe shell is expanding the * to be a list of all file names.. you want unzip to get the * i think01:40
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MadpilotStarKruzr: just realized that... one sec, I'll hunt down the URL manually01:40
Dr_Willisi had this issue ages ago.01:40
Avenso.. what exactly is Synaptic?01:40
tyler_durdenheh sorry again, one more, how do i download gdesklets?01:40
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tyler_durdentheir website is down01:40
AvenI downloaded it but it doesn't install...01:40
drrakntyler_durden: well, it comes with several :)01:41
naliothAven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:41
TiMiDohey people01:41
gfxstylerAven: synaptic is a package management app ... like a database01:41
tyler_durdendrrakn what do you eman?01:41
Avengfxstyler: o01:41
MadpilotStarKruzr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:41
gfxstylerAven: or a touchpad driver for notebooks lol01:41
drrakntyler_durden: there is a package full of a "standard" set of desklets01:41
tyler_durdenthrough synpatic?01:41
ubotuNo idea, StarKruzr01:41
drrakntyler_durden: probably "gdesklets-data"01:41
ubotunalioth: I give up, what is it?01:41
ubotugfxstyler: What?01:41
drrakntyler_durden: yeah01:41
tyler_durdenok thanks01:41
drrakntyler_durden: np01:42
GameGodStarKruzr: just follow those instruction Madpilot gave you and you should be set...01:42
Madpilottyler_durden: search Syn for gdesklets, they are in the Ubuntu repos01:42
StarKruzrok01:42
gfxstylerubotu: whats up? i didnt say anything, did i?01:42
ubotugfxstyler: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:42
MadpilotOK, ubotu's back up01:42
tyler_durdenbecause ubuntu guide says apt-get install gdesklets but it wont work01:42
StarKruzrw00t01:42
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bimberiAven: note that already installed - System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Administration01:42
gfxstylerubotu: tell ubotu about hell01:42
bimberi*that it's01:42
Madpilottyler_durden: please don't use ubuntuguide.org, it's not up to date01:43
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AvenAhh, ok01:43
GameGodAny idea when ubuntuguide.org will be updated for Breezy?01:43
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StarKruzrdear repos: please pay attention to me.  thanks, Kruzr01:43
GameGodlol01:43
StarKruzr(AIIEEE SO SLOW)01:43
naliothGameGod: ubuntuguide is not a good source for new linux users01:43
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MadpilotGameGod: ubutnuguide.org is not an official Ubuntu project, so when it's updated is anyone's guess01:44
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Avenok, how do I use Synaptic to install PHP? :P01:44
GameGodnalioth: What would you suggest then?01:44
naliothAven: use the search feature01:44
Avenwikipedia won't load for me :|\01:44
TiMiDoAven do sudo apt-cache search php01:44
shadeofgreywhere do i coipy all the .ttf files to so that these fonts are available system wide?01:44
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TiMiDoand then apt-get install package01:44
Madpilot!tell Aven about lamp01:44
GameGodI found ubuntuguide.org extremely useful (but I've been using Linux for several years)01:44
naliothGameGod: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation01:44
bimberiGameGod: then you're an ideal customer :)01:44
GameGodhmmm interesting :)01:44
GameGodYeah man, I LOVE ubuntu01:44
GameGod:) :) :)01:44
TiMiDowho doesn't love ubuntu?01:44
TiMiDoI'm sure ubuntu loves you two01:45
naliothGameGod: experienced users DO find the 'guide a welcome page. new users kill their systems with it01:45
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StarKruzrit's already on the one given to me by school01:45
MadpilotAven: the msg the bot sent you has all the information you need for PHP01:45
GameGodprobably true nalioth01:45
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moparfan90hello01:45
TiMiDohello moparfan9001:45
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tyler_durdenumm gdesklets wont start up, just thinks for around 10-20 seconds and then quits01:45
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TiMiDotyler_durden did you do the gdesklets configuration?01:46
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tyler_durdeni dont believe so01:46
tyler_durdenhow do i do that?01:46
TiMiDolook on .gdesklets01:46
Avenubotu is the bot?01:46
ubotuAven: What?01:46
TiMiDoyes Aven01:46
Avenah, heh01:46
shadeofgreyactually ubuntuguide.org is the only reason i didnt abandon linux in frustration and return to windows...01:46
moparfan90i am using windows x64 and its not to good... i was thinking of using ubuntu again. i wanted to know if theres speed difference in 64-bit and 32-bit ubuntu?01:46
Madpilot!tell Aven about ubotu01:46
TiMiDomoparfan90 www.ubuntu.com and do a research,01:47
GameGodI'd say the same with me shadeofgrey01:47
tyler_durdentimido01:47
tyler_durdenwhat do you mean look on .gdeskelts01:47
TiMiDoyes/01:47
shadeofgreyit was the only place available with answers to all the questions that the ubuntu - elite refused to answer at ungodly hours of the morning01:47
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Tuxedo_Kamenhi everyone01:47
TiMiDotyler_durden do cd .gdeskelts01:47
TiMiDohi Tuxedo_Kamen01:47
naliothtyler_durden: look at gdesklets homepage01:47
tyler_durdentheir website is down01:47
tyler_durdentimido it wont find that command01:47
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naliothtyler_durden: two words: google cache01:47
TiMiDocd ?01:47
tyler_durdeni couldnt access it, there was no cache button01:47
GameGodmoparfan90: I'm not sure about speed wise, but unless you're an experienced linux user, the 64-bit version might not be for you (there's some weirdness with some applications/packages with it, or so the forums tell me)01:48
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tyler_durdentimido bash: cd: .gdesklets: No such file or directory01:48
TiMiDotyler_durden sudo apt-cache search01:48
butcherbirdmoparfan90, is there really that much stuff thats going to take advantage of 64-bit?01:48
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TiMiDo!tell tyler_durden about gdesklets01:48
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punkerchil01:48
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tyler_durdenhold on let me identify01:48
jason_how do i remove linux on a dule boot01:48
tyler_durdenok identified01:48
TiMiDojason_ cd /boot/01:48
Tuxedo_Kamenlisten, today I come here with a strange request... I need help setting some type of server which I can access from university to download/upload files. Any idea?01:48
TiMiDoand look at grub configuration jason_01:49
moparfan90no but i have the cpu so why not get more speed01:49
shadeofgreyubuntuguide was the only place i could get reliable information when the most experienced among you refused to offer a helping hand to we fledgling newbies... which i find disgustingly ironic seeing as to the fact that ALL OF US were newbies at one point01:49
LaserJockdo you guys know of any programs for windows that would be compatible with Tomboy?01:49
bimberijason_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want01:49
jason_timido thats in a terminal?01:49
GameGodbutcherbird: Since the 64-bit ubuntu packages were compiled on 64-bit machines, I'd assume EVERYTHING would take advantage of it01:49
naliothtyler_durden: open a term and type "man gdesklets"01:49
tyler_durdentimido, ubuto doesnt know what that is01:49
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steigweishello, i have problems to burn dvd in 8x speed. gnomebaker says, it is 8x, but its only 4x speed... i burn dvd-r 8x discs. any suggestions?01:49
Madpilotshadeofgrey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation01:49
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TiMiDoubotu, gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness HomePage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/01:49
ubotuTiMiDo: what are you talking about?01:49
laseritehi! i want to statically map all IPs in a /16 subnet to the same MAC, do u know how?? thnx!01:49
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GameGod!tell gnome01:50
shadeofgreyp.s. -- is the ubuntu nvidia driver currently available capable of handling the 7800 ultra?01:50
tyler_durdenYou must NOT run gDesklets as super user (root).01:50
tyler_durden omg01:50
naliothGameGod: it's !tell NICK about FACTOID01:50
seethrushadeofgrey: yes01:50
naliothtyler_durden: run the man page01:50
delirelaserite: that's ambitious01:50
tyler_durdenhow can i fool it into thinking im not root?01:50
GameGodJust got that one, thanks though01:50
tyler_durdeni did nalioth01:50
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tyler_durdenthats how i found out that command01:50
GameGod!gnome01:50
ubotuit has been said that gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.01:50
UrbanFoxtyler_durden> don't run as root.01:50
tyler_durdengdesklets lets me do something but it says that01:50
GameGodcool01:50
TiMiDoubotu, "gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness HomePage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ "01:50
ubotuokay, TiMiDo01:50
tyler_durdeni want to run as root01:50
seethrusteigweis: stupid question, but are you using a 8x burner also?01:50
TiMiDo!gdesklets01:50
ubotuTiMiDo: What?01:51
shadeofgreyexcellent!  i just ordered a 7800 ultra and two more gigs of ram...01:51
UrbanFoxtyler_durden> running as root is a bad idea01:51
StarKruzrguys, when synaptic installs something, why does it sometimes create an icon for it in my menu but sometimes not?01:51
tyler_durdeni heard that before thanks01:51
TiMiDo!gdesklets01:51
ebbyok,,I tried to install w32codecs yet synaptic is failing with : can't resolve libhalo and libnautius-burn1 ..any idear ??01:51
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone help me find a server-like thing that a newbie can use so that he can download/upload files from another computer to this one?01:51
UrbanFoxyou should only run as root for administrative tasks, not casual desktop use01:51
laseritedelire, yep i know :), i don't want to add each host by hand01:51
TiMiDo!"gdesklets01:51
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, TiMiDo01:51
TiMiDobla01:51
UrbanFoxUbuntu lacks root by default for a reason01:51
steigweisseethru: of course :) windows /nero works 8x01:51
TiMiDoi suck with the bot,01:51
tyler_durdenim fine with root. anyway is there a way to fool it?01:51
TiMiDotyler_durden sudo -s01:51
UrbanFoxtyler_durden> you are stripping yourself of a great deal of protection01:51
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tyler_durdengrr urbanfox thanks, but im ok with root01:52
shadeofgreyso01:52
StarKruzryou could also just do sudo tcsh (for example)01:52
MadpilotUrbanFox: Ubuntu encourages 'sudo' instead of root use01:52
StarKruzror sudo bash01:52
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UrbanFoxMadpilot> exactly01:52
tyler_durdentimido it still says that i shouldnt run it as root01:52
seethrutyler_durden: go back to windows then if you want to always run in admin mode..01:52
UrbanFoxthat's my point :)01:52
StarKruzrseethru: that's silly.01:52
MadpilotTiMiDo: it's not just you, the bot is being odd right now01:52
TiMiDohmmm ok, tyler_durden01:52
JDigitalDo vampires have anuses?01:52
TiMiDoit is maddler01:52
GameGododdbotu01:52
shadeofgreythat brings my system memory to afull 5 gigs at 400 mgz dual channel...01:52
TiMiDo*is it Madpilot01:52
frank23StarKruzr: some universe packages don't install links in the menu but that should improve: MOTU is supposed to be adding those links01:52
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tyler_durdenit wont let me run as root. what if i login as a normal user, run it and then relogin as root, will i be able to use gdesklets?01:53
StarKruzrfrank: can I add one manually?01:53
yomommas_cooternalioth: I AM YOUR MOMMAS COOTER01:53
yomommas_cooterI AM HUGE01:53
Dr_WillisMOTU? that a person or a project name?01:53
JDigitalHm, wrong channel again.01:53
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frank23StarKruzr: yes01:53
kristerthis is the ubuntu channel right?01:53
naliothJDigital: check for vampire asses in #ubuntu-offtopic please01:53
GameGodDr_Willis: MOTU = Masters of the Universe = people that maintain the universe repository I think01:53
MadpilotDr_Willis: project name. "Masters of the Universe" - those in charge of the Universe repository01:53
jason_can someone tell me what  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want means01:53
frank23Dr_Willis: Masters of the Universe: they take care of universe01:53
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GameGodkik01:53
GameGoderr lol01:53
Dr_Willisfrank23,  tough job. :P01:53
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GameGod:)01:53
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GameGod!pastebin01:54
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:54
dee_german?01:54
Avenok...01:54
tyler_durdennalioth, can you PLEASE explain why you guys think being root all the time is so bad? i know i wont mess anything up, is there another reason why i shouldnbt be root?01:54
nalioth!de01:54
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe01:54
AvenI opened Synaptic, did a search01:54
dee_thx01:54
Avenand didn't find PHP01:54
kristeris it only bots here or?...01:54
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Madpilot!tell tyler_durden about root01:54
Avenhow do I add a PHP package?01:54
tyler_durdengrr i know what root is01:54
jason_can anyone tell me what  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want means01:54
naliothtyler_durden: WE dont want your box mass spamming us because it got rooted b/c you want to run as root01:54
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tyler_durdeny would i spam?01:55
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frank23tyler_durden: by not running root, you ensure that the PROGRAMS you run don't screw you over01:55
naliothjason_: please dont repeat01:55
kristerME WANT HELP! :P01:55
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ubotugDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/01:55
Madpilottyler_durden: read that page, it's a good explanation of why to use sudo rather than root01:55
jason_well no one answered so i figured i would repeat01:55
naliothtyler_durden: YOU wouldnt. but if you run as root all the time, your box WILL01:55
Dr_Williskrister,  it helps if you ask a quetion. :P01:55
naliothjason_: if nobody answers, nobody knows atm01:55
tyler_durdenok madpilot, what is the difference between sudo and root then?01:55
kristerahh.. :P01:55
moparfan90<http://www.petitiononline.com/lin64swf/petition.html>01:55
StarKruzrtyler: running everything as root greatly increases your vulnerability to exploits.01:55
moparfan90sign this to get flash for 64-bit ubuntu working... please it will help the ubuntu community grow01:55
Madpilottyler_durden: sudo is temporary...01:55
tyler_durdenif i use sudo all the time, its just like being root, only it would be annoying typing root every time01:55
naliothjason_: please wait at least 5 minutes tween repeats01:55
kristerdo u guys know where i can find a mp3 fecoder to ubuntu?01:55
jason_well someone in here told that so someone has to know01:56
kristerdecoder*01:56
frank23!tell StarKruzr about rootsudo01:56
StarKruzrtyler: using sudo reduces the "window" during which root is open to attacks.01:56
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone help me find a server-like thing that a newbie can use so that he can download/upload files from another computer to this one? c'mon, ubuntu must have such an application...01:56
naliothubotu: tell krister about mp301:56
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StarKruzrfrank: I know :)01:56
deliretyler_durden: if all processes are running as root it is completely vulnerable to systemwide manipulation from both remote users and local accidents.01:56
n0odl3does anyone know a good wmv player for linux?01:56
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: gftp or a ftp server01:56
frank23StarKruzr: sorry, wrong name01:56
Madpilotn0odl3: Totem can play most wmvs, with the right codecs01:56
jason_i do i repartiion my hard drive so that instead of hainf both linux and windows i only have windows01:56
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, is that easy to set up on a router?01:56
mcphailTuxedo_Kamen: rsync01:56
moparfan90<http://www.petitiononline.com/lin64swf/petition.html>01:56
steigweishello, i have problems to burn dvd in 8x speed. gnomebaker says, it is 8x, but its only 4x speed... i burn dvd-r 8x discs. any suggestions?01:56
tyler_durdenok then, ill switch to normal user but only if its possible to transfer all my current settings (background and whatnot) to the normal user01:56
n0odl3how do i obtain the codecs madpilot?01:56
tyler_durdenis that possible?01:56
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: you set it up on your box01:57
GTroyjason_: use partition magig01:57
GameGod!multiverse01:57
Madpilotn0odl3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:57
ubotuask me about !repositories01:57
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GTroy*magic*01:57
naliothn0odl3: vlc01:57
n0odl3vlc?01:57
StarKruzrpartition magic costs monies!01:57
vengeful_i like vlc01:57
ubuntu_plop01:57
deliren0odl3: video lan client01:57
[A] ndy80is it possible to avoid installing Hotplug Subsystem or not allowing ubuntu to load it at startup? I cannot boot a fresh installed ubuntu system because it freezes during boot at "Loading Hotplug Subsystem".01:57
anethemahey how do i run the gnome menu editor ?01:57
StarKruzrthere's always gparted :)01:57
naliothStarKruzr: use qtparted01:57
StarKruzryeah, or that.01:57
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naliothanethema: right click is your friend01:57
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anethemanm found it01:57
naliothanethema: or run "smeg" from terminal01:57
anethemai wanted the menu editor prog01:58
kristerdo u guys know a good !mp3 decoder01:58
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Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, can't I create an ssh file system?01:58
anethemathanks01:58
tyler_durdennalioth is it possible to transfer my current root settings (such as background, icons and settings) to a normal user account?01:58
Stricklingnomebaker is fussing at me because I have no mp3 plug-in. Help?01:58
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naliothTuxedo_Kamen: yes, installing openssh-server is the secure thing to do01:58
Zhukov_hi there01:58
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MadpilotStricklin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:58
n0odl3ok me try vlc01:58
deliren0odl3: apt-get install vlc01:58
Zhukov_Seveas, are you there?01:58
nuopushey does anyone know if its possible to make metacity expand windows so they only go to certain coordinates?01:58
naliothtyler_durden: yes, you were told how yestern or the day b401:58
n0odl3delire do i sudo that?01:58
Meztyler_durden, sudo cp ~root/* ~01:58
tyler_durdenit did not work nalioth01:58
Mezsorry01:58
nuopuslike ... I dont want it to expand all the way .... leave several pixels from bottom and side01:59
tyler_durdenremember? i treid copying it, and i still had default settings on root01:59
Stricklinmp3 is a restricted format?!01:59
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, and is that easy to do? I am a huge newbie to ubuntu, as you saw yesterday!01:59
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Mezsudo cp -R ~root/* ~01:59
tyler_durdenoh i didnt paste it though01:59
naliothtyler_durden: then idk what to tell ya01:59
tyler_durdenhow do i paste it after?01:59
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: very easy01:59
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Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, ok, so please tell me where can I find a tutorial or something...01:59
tyler_durden/root/dbootstrap_settings01:59
deliren0odl3: yeah01:59
tyler_durdenis this the file with all my settings?01:59
kristerehm... do i have to pay for the mp3 plug in??01:59
naliothMez: i saw you sneak in01:59
_jasonkrister:  no01:59
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: install "openssh-server" and see uncle google for "sftp howto"02:00
Meznalioth: I'm only here thanks to the magic of Laptops and a new mobile fone with GPRS internet02:00
tyler_durdennalioth?02:00
shadeofgreyokay guys now i need a little more guidance... where do i put all the .ttf files i downloaded so that they are made available to programs like op4enoffice and NVU and scribus and such?02:00
tyler_durden/root/dbootstrap_settings does this hold all my settings?02:00
tyler_durdenand why does it say cp: `/root/CD KEYS.txt' and `/root/CD KEYS.txt' are the same file02:00
tyler_durden for a lot of my files02:00
delireshadeofgrey: /usr/share/fonts02:00
Avenok02:01
n0odl3delire its installing what do i do after that?02:01
delireshadeofgrey: though i have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype/02:01
n0odl3its done now02:01
deliren0odl3: choose vlc from the menu or 'vlc /path/to/a/file.wmv'02:01
naliothkrister: only pay with your time02:01
Madpilotshadeofgrey: create a /.font directory in your home02:01
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Avenhow do I exactly install packages in Synaptic?02:01
deliren0odl3: start with 'vlc &' in the terminal02:02
n0odl3delire which menu?02:02
n0odl3oh nvm02:02
Madpilotshadeofgrey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto02:02
aimazhi, when I try to update packages from the app in the notification area it tries to use a proxy that doesn't exist any more, do you know how i can change it to connect directly?02:02
n0odl3i found it02:02
n0odl3thank you02:02
naliothtyler_durden: all of your settings are invisible02:02
shadeofgreydelire:  see..  I have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype  directory as well...  think i should put them all there as well?02:02
delireshadeofgrey: yes, then restart your application.02:02
tyler_durdenso ok, why does it give me that error for all my files in /home? and how do i paste it now? once ive sudo cp ~root/* ~02:02
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Madpilotshadeofgrey: just stick them all in /.fonts, and nearly everything will see them02:02
delireshadeofgrey: Madpilot has a good suggestion, i don't use a ~/.fonts here, but you may as well if you're is present already (non systemwide however).02:03
naliothtyler_durden: you want your root settings moved to your user account?02:03
tyler_durdenexactly02:03
tyler_durdenlike backgrounds and icons02:03
tyler_durdenand terminal settings.. etc02:04
naliothtyler_durden: open a terminal (you should be in your USER home dir)02:04
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, I just installed openSSH server, now what I must I do next?02:04
tyler_durdenhow do i do that?02:04
tyler_durdencd to what?02:04
tyler_durdenmy user is tylerdurden02:04
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: go find another computer and enjoy sftp02:04
naliothtyler_durden: dont cd anywhere02:04
butcherbirdwhats the deal with the wiki it doesnt even reference gstreamer0.8-mad anymore? should at least list the packages to install for mp3 and such02:04
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MadpilotTuxedo_Kamen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto02:05
Tuxedo_Kamen-_-02:05
naliothtyler_durden: type "cp -r /root/.* ./"02:05
tyler_durdencp: `/root/.' and `./.' are the same file02:05
tyler_durden nalioth02:05
naliothtyler_durden: do waht i told you02:05
tyler_durdenwhy does it star ta new line after i psate something? how do i prevent that02:05
tyler_durdeni did02:05
slewwhat was the off topic channel name?02:06
delireTuxedo_Kamen: to start sshd daemon '/usr/sbin/sshd' from another computer use ssh name@ipAddress, scp -r files/ name@ipAddress etc02:06
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naliothslew: #ubuntu-offtopic02:06
slewthx02:06
naliothtyler_durden: were there any errors?02:06
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Avenyo02:06
ljAnyone got sunbird working on ubuntu?02:06
tyler_durdencp: `/root/.' and `./.' are the same file02:06
AvenSynaptic doesn't show PHP02:06
tyler_durdenthat is the error nalioth02:06
Aveneven after a search....02:06
naliothtyler_durden: that is NOT what i wrote02:06
tyler_durdenthis is what i type02:06
tyler_durdencp -r /root/.* ./02:06
MadpilotAven: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?02:06
delireTuxedo_Kamen: make that 'scp -r files/ name@ipAddress:/some/path/' ;)02:06
Aveno02:07
Avenhow do i check ?02:07
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MadpilotAven: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:07
rubemHi there02:07
Tuxedo_Kamenyikes! :|02:07
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naliothtyler_durden: log out and back in02:07
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone please help me doing it, in private?02:07
rubemI can't find SMEG! In which repo is it?02:07
tyler_durdenok02:07
naliothubotu: tell rubem about smeg02:07
naliothrubem: use the installsmeg script at the homepage02:08
hajikiis there a way to enable w32codes on breezy?02:08
_jason!tell hajiki about restricted02:08
naliothubotu: tell hajiki about w32codecs02:08
ebbyok,,I tried to install w32codecs yet synaptic is failing with : can't resolve libhalo and libnautius-burn1 ..any idear ?? ( I followed wiki guide by altering sources.list)02:08
delirehajiki see restricted formats02:08
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Tuxedo_Kamen:S02:08
rubemnalioth: the F**** backports do not have smeg02:08
nuopusjust download the codecs and unpack them to /usr/lib/win3202:08
nalioth_jason: let's be spedific02:08
naliothrubem: GET IT FROM THE HOMEPAGE02:08
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone help me in private, setting up an ssh server?02:09
_jasonnalioth:  will do02:09
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naliothTuxedo_Kamen: if you installed openssh-server, it IS set up02:09
tyler_durdennalioth ok now what02:09
rubemnalioth Ok... sorry... but what happened with the backports?02:09
slewive got a program that refuses to install, which is confusing to me since it installed under mandriva. it keeps giving me a bunch of diffrent error messages, none of which i can decipher. mostly when it gets to network.c02:09
cafuego_nalioth: Having a nice, relaxed sunday? ;-)02:09
naliothcafuego_: did you get my msg?02:09
cafuego_slew: What program?02:09
naliothtyler_durden: you should have your stuff02:10
cafuego_nalioth: not in the past 24 hours.02:10
hajikii said breezy02:10
delireTuxedo_Kamen: once installed, check it's running with 'ps ax | grep sshd'. note the IP Address of this host. then on a client 'ssh name@ipAddress'02:10
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, but I have no idea on how to connect to this computer, and so on02:10
tyler_durdenoh you meant log in as user?02:10
naliothcafuego_: check your cafuego account02:10
tyler_durdenok let me check02:10
BROKEN_LADDERverizon wireless has "broadband" (evdo) wireless internet plans for like 60 bucks, but they say that if you use your pda as a connection to a home pc, they charge you 80 bucks per month.  anyone think there's a way to prevent their being able to tell when you do that?02:10
cafuego_agghrrhrhfhf02:10
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, can I PM you?02:10
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: open a terminal and type ifconfig02:10
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: they tell by the amount of data used02:10
cafuego_nalioth: Ok, gimme  a min02:10
rubemwhat have happened with the backports?02:10
naliothcafuego_: n/m02:10
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slewcafuego, gtermix, a program to connect to old school telnet bbses02:10
butcherbirdTuxedo_Kamen, only other thing you might want to do is edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and change root login to no.  Maybe chage the default port ssh is using as well02:10
delireTuxedo_Kamen: no, i'm leaving soon. just do as i say above and alls well. to find out the IP Address of the computer the SSH Server is setup on 'ifconfig'02:11
cafuego_Go away, ubotu.02:11
naliothrubem: mirromax is gone. and to have backports, you need to have an unstable distro. let breezy release and you'll have new backports soon after02:11
Tuxedo_Kamenhum... but on ifconfig I can't seem to find any mention of my ip02:11
_jasonTuxedo_Kamen:  it is called "inet addr"02:12
freddy4 days to Breezy?02:12
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: look at eth0 next to 'inet'02:12
delireTuxedo_Kamen: 192.168... or 10.0... ? check next to eth002:12
freddywhat new hurricane?02:12
Tuxedo_Kamen10.0.0.102:12
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cafuego_nalioth: done02:12
rubemnalioth, ok... thanks02:12
freddy4 days to breezy? is that a new hurricane coming or what?02:12
tyler_durdennalioth nope my user is still with default settings02:12
nalioth Tuxedo_Kamen go to another machine on your home network and sftp Tuxedo_Kamen@10.0.0.102:12
delireTuxedo_Kamen: 'ifconfig | grep inet_addr'02:12
cafuego_freddy: yes02:12
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naliothtyler_durden: open a terminal02:13
freddydamn02:13
cafuego_freddy: 4 days to go and texas will be WIPED OUT.02:13
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delireTuxedo_Kamen: cool, you have the IP now do as nalioth suggests.02:13
Cluster_Manhey are the servers down guys?02:13
freddydamn, not good02:13
tyler_durdenok nalioth02:13
cafuego_freddy: Uh no, VERY good.02:13
naliothtyler_durden: now "cd /root"02:13
tyler_durdendone02:13
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, but this way I would just connect from other computers in my network, I want to do it from my university...02:13
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auraxhi, is there a simple way to create an automated backup to a external usb drive02:13
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rubemI'm having a probleam with amsn. When I type amsn in the bash, it works, but when I select it from the menu, it didn't work... anyone know why?02:14
freddycafuego, wtf?02:14
delireTuxedo_Kamen: you'll need to look into IP Forwarding. do that on your router.02:14
JDigitalthe menu option must be faulty02:14
TiMiDorubem did you installed it with apt-get?02:14
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naliothtyler_durden: now type "ls -al" and everything you see with a dot in front of it, type "cp .whatever /home/tyler_durden/"02:14
StricklinI'm starting to get steamed.02:14
rubemTiMiDo yes02:14
JDigitalthis happens me in a few things in ubuntu02:14
auraxanyone?02:14
rubemhum02:14
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TiMiDorubem interesting,02:14
Tuxedo_Kamen-_- I have no idea on how to do that on ubuntu.... >_>02:14
tyler_durdenthats a lot of files :P02:14
cafuego_freddy: the world will be a better place. I can't wait.02:14
tyler_durden:O*02:14
delireTuxedo_Kamen: do it on your router. it's operating system independent.02:14
freddycafuego, lol, thats nasty man....hurricane not good02:15
rubemTiMiDo: and when I try open with normal user, it did not work, only the root02:15
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StricklinLast week, using GnomeBaker in Hoary I burned multiple audio CDs from MP3 files... today, after installing Breezy, everybody is telling me I can't02:15
fusioncowhi02:15
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: visit portforward.com02:15
TiMiDorubem oh ic, well no programs you open it with root,02:15
fusioncowanyone compiled the xosd plugin for gaim?02:15
TiMiDohi fusioncow02:15
TiMiDo!info xosd02:15
cafuego_freddy: In related news, Breezy is the new Ubuntu release, scheduled for thursday.02:15
Tuxedo_Kamenstatic routing?02:15
fusioncowhi TiMiDo02:15
delireTuxedo_Kamen: 'forward' the IP of the machine hosting your SSH server to the router. note the *external* IP of your router and ssh/sftp/scp to that addr.02:15
TiMiDofusioncow do sudo apt-cache search xosd02:15
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freddycafuego, LOL you bastard02:16
fusioncowTiMiDo: done, only give the xosd lib, not the gaim plugin.02:16
steigweishow do you burn dvds? i can only burn 4x instead of 8x like normally. is that a gnomebakerbug?02:16
freddyi thought you were serious02:16
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naliothsteigweis: try k3b02:16
cafuego_freddy: Apart from it being a hurricane, I was! ;-)02:16
naliothBelutz_zzz: wake up! you're nekkid02:16
freddyhaha02:16
TiMiDofusioncow try installing it then read the INSTALLME02:16
delirecafuego_: same policy on CD's as earlier releases?02:16
TiMiDoor the README02:16
fusioncowTiMiDo: from source, it appears to compile, but does not output any .so files.02:16
steigweisnalioth: k3b does burn only 4x too02:16
tyler_durdennalioth isnt there a way to cp /root/ /home/tylerdurden/?02:17
delirecafuego_: *shipping* cd's..02:17
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TiMiDotyler_durden why do you want to do that?02:17
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tyler_durdentoo lazy to explain02:17
TiMiDowell explain02:17
naliothtyler_durden: we tried that, you may try again "cp /root/* /home/tylerdurden/"02:17
tyler_durdennalioth is lready helping02:17
TiMiDook02:17
tyler_durdenthat wasnt the commandyou told me before nalioth02:17
naliothTiMiDo: he is gettin his bot straitend out02:17
TiMiDooh ic,02:18
naliothtyler_durden: it does the same thing02:18
cafuego_delire: policy on cd?02:18
tyler_durdenit worked now :P02:18
tyler_durdenill go try02:18
Tuxedo_Kamenno idea how to do it >_>02:18
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen do what?02:18
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Tuxedo_Kamenonce again i'll ask, can anyone help me in private, setting up an ssh server?02:18
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delirecafuego_ is canonical funding the free distribution of CD's ordered by the public?02:18
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TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen sudo apt-get install sshd02:18
cafuego_delire: No idea.02:18
delirecheers02:18
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: you have it set up. now you need a lesson in port forwarding02:18
naliothTiMiDo: he's got it set up02:19
cafuego_delire: I always burn my own and hand those out instead.02:19
TiMiDooh ok,02:19
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen what's the issue02:19
TiMiDo?02:19
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Kelraithis there a source to get java?02:19
TiMiDo!tell Kelraith about java02:19
cafuego_!java02:19
delirecafuego_ as do i. there has been some demand at a university i work at however.02:19
ubotujava is probably to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java02:19
naliothTiMiDo: he needs some pointers on port forwarding so he can ssh into his box from outside his home network02:19
steigweisis it possible that gnomebaker,k3b etc. does only burn 4x with 8xdvd-r discs? do i need dvd+r?02:19
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naliothubotu: tell Kelraith about javadeb02:19
naliothguys get with it !javadeb02:20
TiMiDooh nalioth he should configured the router, then02:20
cafuego_delire: Well, THEY have a fat pipe, so they cna just download it, too <heh>02:20
naliothTiMiDo: he needs help02:20
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, but I never did port forwarding stuff, I have no idea how to....02:20
TiMiDooh ok,02:20
_jasonnalioth:  can we just redefine java on the bot?02:20
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen what router is it?02:20
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: visit portforward.com02:20
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nalioth_jason: good idea02:20
cafuego__jason: to what?02:20
tyler_durdennalioth it didnt trasnfer ANY of my settings02:20
Tuxedo_Kamenspeedtouch 510, I guess02:20
tyler_durdensuch as mousr sensetivity02:20
delirecafuego_ .. hehe yes.02:20
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naliothtyler_durden: you're gonna have to do it by hand02:21
naliothtyler_durden: a file/directory at a time02:21
tyler_durdenare you sure ALL my settings are in the root folder?02:21
TiMiDoyes on /etc02:21
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TiMiDo--> /etc is configurations,02:21
tyler_durdenso can i do that command only replace /root/ with /et/c?02:21
cafuego_ubotu no, java is <reply> To install blackdown java, simply run 'sudo apt-get install j2re1.4'. For newer version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java for instructions.02:21
ubotuokay, cafuego_02:21
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, hum.... I went to that site and it say to me "your external ip address is X"... now, what port do I need to open in order to allow ssh to enter?02:21
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naliothtyler_durden: if you ran around as root, they are in /root/02:22
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen i asked you what router is it02:22
cafuego__jason: better?02:22
Tuxedo_Kamenspeedtouch 510, I guess!02:22
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TiMiDodlink linksys?02:22
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tyler_durdenoh youre right? it wasnt there before02:22
tyler_durdeni only had 4 files there02:22
cafuego_TiMiDo: Yes, ubotu is a blootbot.02:22
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: read the site, please. it wants YOU to put numbers in for games and such. you dont need to play games, you should read how to port forward for your router brand02:22
_jasoncafuego:  nope :P  make it like javadeb02:22
TiMiDooh cool02:22
tyler_durdenwhats lost+found for?02:23
tyler_durden02:23
naliothcafuego_: yes you're busy and not lookin at yer /pm02:23
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen go here http://www.speedtouch.com/02:23
cafuego__jason: I don't want to!02:23
cafuego__jason: you do it.02:23
_jasoncafuego:  l02:23
_jasoncafuego:  k*02:23
deliretyler_durden: when there is data loss due to a system crash (rare) or similar, data is collated there in an indexed format.02:23
tyler_durdennalioth, can i browse to /tylerdurden/ using my root account and just paste all those files there?02:23
Jeromeenalioth: do you use your ubuntu system as a server?02:23
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naliothJeromee: no i do not02:24
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tyler_durdenty delire, i was confused about that02:24
naliothtyler_durden: in a terminal, go to your /root/02:24
cafuego__jason: Hold on02:24
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Tuxedo_KamenI found this, is this it? --> "IP Address- And Routing Tables"02:24
deliretyler_durden: check out 'man 7 hier' for an overview of a typical Linux file system.02:24
Madpilottyler_durden: you might be better off completely reinstalling ubuntu and actually setting up a regular, real user account from the beginning...02:24
tyler_durdenok nalioth, now what?02:24
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen read it,02:24
TiMiDoyou need to open the ports with you're router02:24
_jasoncafuego:  done02:25
test34"There is 1 item for post-update information available" won't disapear even if there is no items when I open it, or even if I reboot.. how can I get rid of it ?02:25
tyler_durdenmadpilot, 2 hours was, was my 4th reinstallment of ubuntu in the last 2 days02:25
tyler_durdenim NOT doing that again02:25
cafuego__jason: cool :-)02:25
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TiMiDotest34 do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:25
cafuego_Seveas: Go to bed!02:25
naliothtyler_durden: type "ls -al" and everything you see with a . in front of it, type "cp -r .bleh /home/tylerdurden/"02:25
TiMiDolol02:25
Tuxedo_Kamentimido, I know I need to open ports, but which ones?02:25
test34Ill try that, thanks TiMiDo02:25
tyler_durdenok nalioth, ill do that but i somehow doubt it will work with my luck :(02:25
TiMiDo23 Tuxedo_Kamen02:25
tyler_durdenc ya in an hour once i finish02:25
TiMiDotest34 np02:26
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auraxis there a backup server-client solution so my clients could backup their server using windows?02:26
test34TiMiDo, nothing got installed.. and it is still there02:26
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Madpilottyler_durden: so why didn't you set up a regular user account? (curious...)02:26
elmuswhere do I post package requests for xubuntu02:26
TiMiDotest34 do apt-get update and then do apt-get dist-upgrade02:26
TiMiDoelmus on the mailing list02:26
seethru/msg #ubuntuforums kair: nice desktop02:27
Rockett18there actually is a xubuntu now?02:27
seethrusigh02:27
seethrumt02:27
elmusTiMiDo: thanks02:27
Tuxedo_Kamentcp or udp?02:27
TiMiDonp02:27
Madpilotelmus: there is a #xubuntu channel02:27
TiMiDoTuxedo_Kamen dude if you don't know ur router i'm sad02:27
seethruTiMiDo: a sad panda?02:27
Dr_Willisok what the heck is xubuntu...02:27
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elmusMadpilot:I'll check it out02:27
Dr_Willisi missed somthing.02:27
test34TiMiDo, ok trying..02:27
Dr_Willis!xubuntu02:27
ubotuDr_Willis: Not a clue02:27
Dr_Willis:P02:28
delire!xubuntu02:28
delirehmm02:28
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MadpilotDr_Willis: it's Ubuntu using XFCE instead of gnome or kde02:28
Jeromeeanyone know of a SFTP server for ubuntu?02:28
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TiMiDoJeromee ftpd02:28
Ramahwhat would a good free webhost be?02:28
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Dr_WillisMadpilot,  egads... YetANother "just the desktop'" is different spin off? :P02:28
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cafuego_Jeromee:  openssh-server02:28
TiMiDoRamah you'r pc02:28
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Tuxedo_Kamen-_-02:29
Ramahmy pc doesn't not have the proper uptime02:29
Jeromeecafuego_: openssh-server is a sftp?02:29
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Tuxedo_Kamentimido, I just don't know if I have to open port 23 as tcp, udp or both!02:29
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bob2Jeromee: yes02:29
cafuego_Jeromee: that runs an sftp server by default, I think. Install it and check /etc/ss/sshd_config02:29
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TiMiDotry both Tuxedo_Kamen02:29
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bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: if you're using ftp, why do you have a firewall?02:29
Jeromeeoh, awesome02:29
Jeromeethanks.02:29
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: port 22 is what ssh uses02:29
Tuxedo_KamenI don't have one, but I use a router02:29
Dr_WillisXXXubuntu - porn for people.02:30
snausagessb home02:30
test34TiMiDo, I use the graphical updating tool all the time, so I doudt it will work, it probably does the same thing in the background02:30
snausageserr02:30
TiMiDobla yeah 22.02:30
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TiMiDosure it does test3402:30
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, ok, I'll open 22 as tcp and udp02:30
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: forwarding ports on your router is not sufficient for your computer to work as an ftp server02:30
delireDr_Willis: if you didn't say it ... ;)02:30
Tuxedo_Kamenwhat else do I need?02:30
naliothbob2: Tuxedo_Kamen is after ssh capability from his uni02:30
Dr_Willisdelire,  imagine the boot up screen!02:30
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: you are fine02:30
cafuego_Sacrifice a goat!02:30
bob2oh, ok02:30
Dr_Williswith the  xxxdm login manager02:31
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: tcp port 22 for ssh/sftp, no need for udp02:31
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hoslerCan someone link me to a good repository list for BREEZY?02:31
pbutterhey guys, is there a way to use the ubuntu live cd to install?02:31
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Dr_Willispbutter,  not that i have heard of.02:31
Tuxedo_Kamen:|02:31
bob2hosler: your /etc/apt/sources.list contains all the ubuntu repositories already02:31
bob2pbutter: not simply02:31
pbutterokay thanks02:31
Dr_Willispbutter,  heard it may be doable in the future02:31
hoslerbob2: mine got deleted by easy ubuntu02:32
Tuxedo_Kamenbob2, my router only allows me to pick tcp and udp! So, should I only use tcp?02:32
bob2what on earth is "easy ubuntu"?02:32
naliothhosler: dont use those things02:32
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: yes02:32
naliothbob2: a script for "easy" ubuntu that eats ubuntu instead02:32
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hoslerbob2: a stupid program which i thought would be helpfull but in fact messed up my system.02:32
ibrasili instaled w32codec but video does not appear, only sound. some idea?02:32
naliothubotu: tell hosler about sources02:32
bob2oh, shock02:32
Tuxedo_Kamenok, I did it02:32
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Tuxedo_Kamenwhat's next?02:32
cafuego_bob2: iWorm.Linux.EasyUbuntu02:32
Zhukov_ibrasil, wich w32codecs?02:32
bob2cafuego_: hah02:32
delirecafuego_ ahah, thanks for clearing that up.02:32
ibrasilyes02:32
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bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: try it02:33
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: get your external IP and go visit someone02:33
Dr_Willisbob2,  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-64629.html    perhaps02:33
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Zhukov_ibrasil, hoarys or breezys?02:33
ibrasili try to open divx, mpeg ....02:33
Tuxedo_Kamen:S02:33
naliothibrasil: some wmv wont play video at all02:33
ibrasilhoary02:33
Tuxedo_Kamensorry if this seems a stupid question, but how can I try it?02:33
ibrasilnothing02:34
ibrasili try to02:34
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: didn't work02:34
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_jasonibrasil:  what player?02:34
Tuxedo_Kamen?02:34
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naliothTuxedo_Kamen: get your external IP (can be found on your router setup utility )02:34
Tuxedo_Kamenbob2, what do you mean?02:34
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: either you don't have the ssh server installed and running, or your port forwarding was done incorrectly02:34
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: or your ISP blocks port 22 incoming02:34
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ibrasiltotem02:35
naliothbob2: did i miss somethink in the Tuxedo_Kamen tale?02:35
bob2nalioth: I don't know, but his IP is refusing port 2202:35
Tuxedo_Kamenbob2, try now...02:35
ibrasila try gxine to02:36
cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: After you check that it works by IP, the easiest way of making sure you can get in externally, is by running a 'dyndns' client on your computer. That way you get a hostname to ssh to.02:36
delireTuxedo_Kamen: if your ISP does block port 22 incoming, as bob2 suggests, you can start sshd on a different port with '/usr/sbin/sshd -p 2001' for instance02:36
cafuego_bob2: refusing is good, just hanging is bad...02:36
Tuxedo_Kamenno, I don't think they block any ports02:36
hoslernalioth: thanks02:36
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: i just got in02:37
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: assuming you're irc'ng fro mthe same IP, it's still blocked02:37
hosleruboto: tell hosler about music organizers02:37
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naliothbob2: strange. i got in02:37
Tuxedo_Kamenbob2, so how did nalioth got in? :S02:37
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: hm, no, I'm dumbe02:37
hoslerubotu: tell hosler about music organizers02:37
hoslerubotu: tell hosler about music02:37
hoslerwhatever02:37
cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: it works OK.02:38
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: now go and find your external IP and go visiting02:38
Tuxedo_Kameno_O how do I do that?02:38
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cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: Now go to www.dyndns.org, set up a hostname, install a dyndns client and configure that.02:38
apollo2011hieveryone02:38
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naliothTuxedo_Kamen: do you know your router setup page?02:38
Tuxedo_Kamenyeah02:38
delireTuxedo_Kamen:http://www.hostip.info/02:38
hoslerIs there a way to get zsnes to use esound? The sound in zsnes doesnt work sometimes because the device is allready being used.02:39
bob2hosler: esddsp zsnes02:39
bob2tho it will probably be crap even if it does work02:39
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hoslerbob2: the sound lags with that02:39
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bob2right02:39
apollo2011bravo to all those who worked on Breezy.  I just upgraded from Hoary on my Dell Inspiron 8600 and all the hardware problems I was having and were keeping me from using Ubuntu on my laptop, have been resolved.  It seems to work seamlessly with all the special featurs of the laptop, like the volume control buttons.02:39
vicCodd2nesecito ayuda02:39
apollo2011however, I have one problem,02:40
The_VoxvicCodd2: #ubuntu-es02:40
Tuxedo_KamenvicCodd2, que lngua hablas?02:40
nalioth!es02:40
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:40
hoslervicCodd2: como se dice ayuda en engleis?02:40
bob2vicCodd2: er, #ubuntu-es or #debian-es02:40
apollo2011every time I boot, I get an error that says HAL was not started.  What do I need to do to get HAL to start properly?02:40
hoslerwhat is HAL anyway?02:40
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naliothhosler: hardware abstraction layer02:41
cafuego_!hal02:41
ubotuHAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.02:41
Tuxedo_Kamenhum, ok, now I am not understanding... how do I connect from another computer to this one?02:41
hosleroh02:41
apollo2011yes02:41
bob2Tuxedo_Kamen: ssh yourip02:41
hoslerTuxedo_Kamen: do you mean website or file sharing or what?02:41
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: you go to uni, open a gui ftp client that does ssh, and put your home IP, your home username and pass02:41
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Tuxedo_Kamenok, but I have dynamic ip, isn't that a problem?02:42
hoslerTuxedo_Kamen: putty is a good ssh client.02:42
pioneerhow do i fix    #error libXpm has not been found02:42
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WinZHelp me please! How I can load default keymap for my standart Mitsumi keyboard?02:42
bob2pioneer: by installing it?02:42
benkong2can I fix it so a user can CRUD my apache files without having to sudo?02:42
bob2pioneer: what are you compiling?02:42
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bob2benkong2: "crud" is a verb?02:43
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delirepioneer: install the libxpm -dev package02:43
benkong2bob2; Create Read Update Delete. sorry02:43
bob2benkong2: you can make an apache-admin group own the apache config files02:43
Tuxedo_Kamen3 questions:  I have dynamic ip, isn't that a problem? also, how do I set the permissions? Or, after logging in, I have permissions exactly as in my computer?02:43
pioneerbob2 mplayer plugin because of issues with whats in the repos not working, i have the devs and all that for libxpm, same same tho02:43
StylusEateranybody had any luck with an ma111 netgear usb wireless adapter?02:43
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: 1. dyndns, 2. you don't have to, 3. yes02:43
delirepioneer: it seeks 'header' files. 'apt-cache search libxpm dev' --> "libxpm-dev - X pixmap library development files"02:43
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hoslerbenkong2: chmod the files.02:44
ksmurfwhich is better for iptables ... firestarter or guarddog02:44
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delirepioneer: then ./configure && make again..02:44
benkong2bob2; according to apache2.conf www-data is what it runs under is that who needsto own the dirs?02:44
bob2StylusEater: worked fine02:44
bob2benkong2: absolutely not02:44
pioneerdelire, i have them and have ldconfig, i dunno02:44
pioneeri have02:44
bob2benkong2: www-data should never own anything02:44
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: once you log in, you are on YOUR box (your linux doesnt care if you aren't sitting in front of it)02:44
StylusEaterbob2: I plugged it in and I can't find it with an lsmod or lspci???02:44
bob2StylusEater: yes, of course02:44
bob2StylusEater: why would lspci show a usb device?02:44
StylusEaterI did a modprobe prims202:44
benkong2hmmm... ok I just looked in the .conf file and noted that www-data is the user and group02:44
StylusEaterbob2: good point02:44
bob2StylusEater: 'sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1'02:44
StylusEaterbob2: too many beers at espn zone tonight02:44
StylusEaterbob2: I did that already02:45
bob2StylusEater: 'sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable'02:45
StylusEaterahh...everytime I try that command02:45
StylusEaterI get a wlanctl-ng not found02:45
bob2StylusEater: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="ssid" authtype=opensystem02:45
hoslerbenkong2: You want people to be able to do anything to the files, right?02:45
bob2StylusEater: er, so install it? packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what package it is in.02:45
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, cool02:45
ksmurfwhich is better for iptables ... firestarter or guarddog???02:45
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bob2ksmurf: whichever you prefer02:45
StylusEaterbob2: fair nuff...danke02:45
ksmurfk thanks02:45
naliothksmurf: personal preference02:46
Tuxedo_Kamenseethru, I just registered on dyndns, what should I do next?02:46
bob2benkong2: if you want a group of people to be able to edit the config files, make a new group, add people to it, then give that group permission to touch the files02:46
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seethruTuxedo_Kamen: go to services, and dynamic dns and make a hostname for yourself02:46
ksmurfnalioth ... u prefer ..... which?02:46
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benkong2bob2; thanks02:46
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: they also have a program you can install to auto-update your ip whenever it changes02:46
naliothksmurf: i dont use a firewall. there is no reason to in a default installation02:47
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benkong2hosler; yes just me I am the server admin02:47
ksmurfnalioth... k thanks02:47
jbuberelanyone else just sync up to the latest breezy snapshot then start getting extreme slowness launching any app that uses GTK?02:47
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hoslerbenkong2: man chown, man chmod02:47
Tuxedo_Kamenseethru, isn't creating an host (I created mykas0.dyndns.org ) enough?02:47
benkong2hosler; doing that now thanks02:48
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WinZHere is dmesg log: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).02:48
WinZatkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.02:48
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apollo2011So how can I get HAL to start properly on startup in Breezy?02:49
GTroyanyone know why I can only use my browser, or irc, or downloading?02:49
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GTroythen everything else quits?02:49
bob2apollo2011: if it doesn't, and you didn't do anything silly like break dbus, file a bug02:49
apollo2011bob2: ok02:49
bob2GTroy: what does "free -m" print?02:49
GTroyholdon02:50
apollo2011bob2:  all I did was upgrade so I guess that qualifies as nothing...I don't think I messed up dbus in doing so02:50
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GTroyI'm on my ibook02:50
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: what do you mean it isn't creating?02:50
GTroywhat should I look for?02:50
Daishiim using the ubuntu live cd and i just wanted to know how i get cdrecord to work?02:50
evianI'm having trouble figuring out why nvidia drivers make my screen just go black. Someone earlier suggested I look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I couldn't see anything useful in there.02:50
Tuxedo_Kamencan you please try it?02:50
bob2GTroy: show us...02:50
Daishicdrecord -scanbus complains about being unable to open /dev/pg*02:51
bob2evian: are you using binary only drivers?02:51
evianyeah02:51
bob2Daishi: don't bother with it unless you actually have a SCSI cd burner02:51
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: tried pining that host, request timed out.02:51
seethrupinging*02:51
Daishitheres no ide-scsi working?02:51
evianbob2, just the deb02:51
GTroymem 473 used 459 free 13 shared 0 buffers 27 cached 30402:51
bob2Daishi: ? sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdwhatever foo.iso02:51
Daishioo02:51
Daishiheh02:52
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: did you set that host to your ip?02:52
evianbob2, I started to try to do a manual install, but the nvidia install program noted that my gcc was a different version than some of the stuff it was going to install, so I chickened out of that02:52
pioneerbob2, and delire, thx i didnt reconfig after i installed the xpm crap02:52
Tuxedo_Kamenyeah, I think so02:52
evian(I'm running breezy)02:53
Daishii forgot about that, my os is normally slack and the drive is on its way out, i always had to work with the x,x,x because i never had cdrecord patched02:53
Daishithanks bob202:53
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n0odl3is there a way to defrag the hard drive in linux02:54
auraxdoes anyone knows of a solution to backup ubuntu server from a windows machine ?02:54
naliothn0odl3: linux doesnt get fragmented02:54
seethrun0odl3: don't need to, thats what the 5% that linux keeps is for02:54
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n0odl3oh cool02:54
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n0odl3thank you nalioth and seethru02:54
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Tuxedo_Kamenseethru, when they ask me about the interface used, what should I write?02:54
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: interface used? hold on heh lemme bring up the page02:55
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jbuberelaurax - take a look at 'dar': http://dar.linux.free.fr/02:55
Hobbseeit seems so weird not needing to defrag...02:55
jbuberelvery nice backup app, works on win and linux.02:55
GTroybob2, or nalioth: what would cause only one internet connection? like irc, or FF, or downloading?02:55
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Tuxedo_Kamenseethru, I am installing ddclient, and then they asked me for that information...02:55
auraxty jbuberel02:55
naliothGTroy: i'm not sure i understand what you're asking02:56
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wolf1hi, just installed ubuntu 5.04. it detected windows, created a windows directory, but doesn't provide me with dual-boot. what can i do to have dual-boot please?02:56
GTroyif I download something I can't connect to teh web, or irc02:56
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: whichever interface you use to connect to the net, probably eth002:56
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StylusEaterbob2: still can't find it...even after a google.com/linux a google.com and a search of packages.ubuntu.com .... any idea what package wlanctl is bundled with?02:56
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GTroyor if I have FF working I can't connect with xchat02:56
jbuberelwolf1: google on linux daulboot howto: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html02:56
naliothGTroy: have you restarted your box?02:57
benkong2wolf1; did you look at grub menu.list my install placed windows as the last entry02:57
Madpilotwolf1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo02:57
GTroyno not yet02:57
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Tuxedo_Kamen:| what should I put in "run ddclient on ppp connect?" and "run ddclient as daemon?", hum ?02:57
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seethruTuxedo_Kamen: do you use dialup?02:57
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GTroyI thought it was a router/dns problem02:58
Tuxedo_Kamenno, a router and adsl02:58
wolf1benkong2 windows isn't listed in menu.ls02:58
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seethruTuxedo_Kamen: then run as daemon02:58
naliothGTroy: have you restarted the router?02:58
benkong2wolf1; look at /boot/grub/menu.lst02:58
GTroynope02:58
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naliothGTroy: perhaps restarting both?02:59
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GTroyok02:59
Tuxedo_Kamen"ddclient update interval:300" should I leave it with value 300 ?02:59
wolf1Madpilot i checked the url but it doesn't provide me with an answer to setup grup to dual-boot02:59
GTroyback in a minute02:59
wolf1benkong2 i checked, windows isn't listed in menu.ls02:59
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: thats probably in seconds, so that'll be 5 minutes, put it up a bit more heh02:59
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: don't wanna flood dyndns.org02:59
Tuxedo_Kamen600, is it fine?03:00
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benkong2wolf1; ok follow the wiki docs from above by Madpilot03:00
wolf1jbuberel i have win9803:00
seethruTuxedo_Kamen: unfortunately I've gtg now for a bit and go home (at work atm), if you're still experiencing issues I can continue helping yo then03:00
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jbuberelwolf1 - ouch - sorry to hear that :)03:00
Tuxedo_Kamenhum, I hope anyone else can help me, since I have to go soon too :-\03:00
Tuxedo_Kamenbut seethru, thanks! :)03:00
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bimberiStylusEater: the linux-wlan-ng"package includes /sbin/wlanctl-ng03:01
HendricOMG.. help me!!! i updated my system awhile ago (478 packages) i want to burn them on a CD for future reinstallation.. and now its gone on the /var/cache/apt folder.. where can i find it???03:01
benkong2Tuxedo_Kamen; run it as a cron job on the 1st and 15th of the month or what ever you like there should be an example in the docs on your system03:01
cafuego_Hendric: If it's not in /var/cache/apt/archives, it's deleted.03:01
Tuxedo_Kamenhum? That just sounded like chinese to me! :-\03:01
dannyhow do you close a program if it won't close? i have the pid and i have tried the "top" program to close it.03:02
wolf1benkong2 i already installed ubuntu - the wiki docs is for a new install03:02
HendricOMG!!! :( that was a 4 hour update.. :(03:02
naliothdanny: alt-f2, enter 'xkill' and the next thing you touch, dies03:02
cafuego_danny: In top, hit 'k', then type the pid, hit return, then type '9' for the signal.03:02
dannythank you03:03
cafuego_Hendric: You probably configured synaptic or update manager to delete files older then X days.03:03
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Hendriccafuego, this is a newly installed system.. haven't set any.03:03
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Hendricand the update took place like 30mins ago03:04
Hendrici restarted.. attached my CD writer and now its gone.03:04
benkong2Tuxedo_Kamen; look in /usr/share/doc/ddclient/examples/03:04
Tuxedo_Kamen:S03:04
Hendricwe'll.. life is a bubble gum..03:04
Tuxedo_Kamenwell, I think it is working now03:04
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone please check? /usr/share/doc/ddclient/examples/03:05
cafuego_Hendric: Did you check /var/cache/apt or /var/cache/apt/archives ?03:05
Hendrici did cafuego03:05
Tuxedo_Kamenyikes, I mean, mykas0.dyndns.org03:05
cafuego_Hendric: Then it's gone.03:05
Hendricspilled milk..03:05
Hendricthanks anyway03:05
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cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: You need to set the interface to 'web' in the ddclient config file.03:05
cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: Coz at the moment it's using the IP 10.0.0.103:06
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Tuxedo_Kamencafuego_ , where can I find that config file?03:06
cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: /etc/ or /etc/ddclient03:06
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GTroy_problem solved nalioth!03:07
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cdub_yo03:07
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naliothGTroy__: good to hear03:07
cdub_anyone from phx?03:07
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StricklinAnybody else having problems burning CDs in Breezy? Using GnomeBaker, it converts MP3s to audio, says it's beginning to burn, then crashes without as much as an error message.03:07
naliothStricklin: try k3b03:07
Stricklinokay03:07
cdub_anyone know how to get totem to play .wmv03:07
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naliothcdub_: /msg ubotu w32codecs   and wmv3 wont play iirc03:08
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Lickerwhat was the command to allow access to a DIR?03:08
StylusEaterbob2: I found the package and installed it...now I get a "no such device" error...03:09
_jasonLicker:  more specific?03:09
cdub_win32codecs from where?03:09
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nalioth!tell cdub_ about w32codecs03:09
naliothcdub_: read the bots msg03:09
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Lickerlike i try to add a file to var\www\ but it says i dont have acces etc..03:10
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_jasonLicker:  are you using sudo?03:11
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naliothLicker: use /usr/local/var/www03:11
Tuxedo_Kamencafuego_ , now what like exactly do I need to change? ----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/295603:11
Lickeri used the File Browser first becaus I fergot the sudo command....03:12
Licker] :/03:12
Madpilot!+cli03:12
ubotucli is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/03:12
Lickeri didnt write it down. lolz03:12
_jason!tell Licker about sudo03:12
MadpilotLicker: see the BasicCommands URL above, and bookmark it! ;)03:12
naliothLicker: the system uses /var/. you should use /usr/local/var/   (/usr/local/ is for locally installed things)03:13
cafuego_Tuxedo_Kamen: See my revision03:13
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Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, can you please check it my ssh is working?03:13
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evianbob2, should I try a manual install of nvidia drivers as described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 ?03:14
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: it is up03:14
cafuego_evian: No.03:14
evianok03:14
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cafuego_evian: The prepackaged drivers should work fine.03:14
evianok03:14
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evianit would be nice if they did :)03:14
cafuego_What card you got?03:15
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bluefoxicyxchat seems to spontaneously crash after 30 days?03:15
evian4200ti something or other03:15
evianlet me check...03:15
Tuxedo_Kamenhum, ok03:15
cafuego_That's a geforce4 variety, isn't it?03:15
evianyes03:15
VersedDoesn't for me, both under ubuntu and osx.03:15
windexbluefoxicy, you can get X/gnome to run 30 days straight?!?!?!?03:15
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Tuxedo_Kamenjust some more questions... can I create a new account, which could only read files from a certain place, and not erase them?03:15
cafuego_evian: You'll want the OLD drivers then... let me see...03:16
evianoh!03:16
Mercutiocan anyone help me with my display drivers??03:16
Amaranthwindex: 30 days is nothing03:16
evianthanks cafuego_03:16
cafuego_nvidia-glx-legacy or somesuch03:16
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: sure03:16
Stricklinnalioth, yep, you're right. Seems to be something about GnomeBaker because k3b is burning just fine.03:16
bluefoxicywindex:  21:14:30 up 30 days,  7:43,  6 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.80, 0.9203:16
Tuxedo_Kamenhow? :|03:16
boxerboy29bluefoxicy: are you using a name that you first used with the xchat installed with ubuntu or did you get the name from a demo version of xchat?03:16
windexAmaranth, for some reason about once a month i have to restart X because something isin't responding.03:16
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cafuego_evian: ... and their associated kernel module package03:16
bluefoxicyboxerboy29:  a name?03:16
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evianok I'll search in synaptic, I thought the "unified" drivers covered my card03:16
windexAmaranth, but i dont have to reboot. ctrl+alt+backspace. one time i had to log into my box via ssh from another box and killall -9 Xorg .. :P03:16
boxerboy29the name bluefoxicy03:17
naliothbluefoxicy: make a new account and permission it with System > Admin > Users and Groups03:17
bluefoxicyboxerboy29:  I've had this data since before ubuntu existed.  I've been using linux for years.03:17
Mercutioor can anyone help me with gstreamer?03:17
benkong2does splashy work with breezy?03:17
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boxerboy29the only reason i was thinking is maybe like mirc a demo would make your xchat crash after the time is up sorrry didnt know youve been using it for years03:18
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cafuego_evian: nvidia did something silly in their latest drivers, it breaks support for older cards.03:18
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, sorry to bother you, but can you tell me how to create a new user, which can you only read files from a certain place?03:18
cafuego_xchat crahses because it's shit. use irssi.03:19
windexcafuego, they have to promote upgrading somehow03:19
nix4mexchat is fine03:19
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Mercutiodoes anyone know of any support for ati's olde cards?03:19
nix4menothing wrong with it03:19
boxerboy29my xchat has always worked fine03:19
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: System > Admin > Users and Groups03:19
windexcafuego, you started emacs vs vi, irc client edition. you fail it. :D03:19
cafuego_I'm not saying anything is wrong with it, I'm just saying it's shit.03:19
nix4melol, whatever03:19
cafuego_!start an editor war03:19
ubotukate is better than xemacs03:19
eviancafuego: so the geforce4 cards have a geforce2 chipset, is that it?03:20
cafuego_windex:  muaha!03:20
Mercutiook this is the support channel for ubuntu right?03:20
cafuego_evian: With added steroids, I believe so, yes.03:20
naliothMercutio: yes it is03:20
Versedirssi, xchat it comes down to preferences.03:20
HobbseeMercutio: yes03:20
Versedof which you like.03:20
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MadpilotMercutio: how old is your ATI card?03:20
eviancafuego_, thanks03:20
Mercutioit is brand new, but it is an radeon 700003:20
tyler_durdenshoyld i have some folders in my home folder? such as var, usr, media?03:20
Madpilot!tell Mercutio about ati03:21
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MercutioI don't need anything more powerful03:21
naliothtyler_durden: not really03:21
tyler_durdenhow come i have that?03:21
cafuego_Mercutio: That ought to work right out of the box.03:21
MercutioI am learning there are all sorts of bugs with it03:21
naliothtyler_durden: why do you?03:21
tyler_durdenand nalioth, i transfered ALL those files in tylerdurden and nothing changed03:21
MadpilotMercutio: see the msg ubotu just sent you for some help03:21
tyler_durdeni guess ill to have reinstall damn ubuntu for the 5th time03:21
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tyler_durdenthis is getting on my nerves03:21
Mercutiook and I did the one how to from wiki and nothing is changed03:21
naliothtyler_durden: open xterm. type "man chmod"03:21
boxerboy29to register a nick its /msg nickserv register <name>???03:22
tyler_durdeni know what chmod is03:22
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naliothboxerboy29: not name, but your password03:22
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MercutioI modified the drivers and it still shows little lines and wierd colours03:22
Madpilotboxerboy29: /msg nickserv help03:22
boxerboy29ok ty03:22
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trekrempeople using 5.10 preview, how's the stability? i know it's only a few days away, but i have the time to test it out now03:23
mfuenteshi, is Banshee on Breezy ready to use?03:23
naliothtrekrem: it's fine03:23
liquidten2trekrem:  it's pretty good03:23
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, what should I write in "main group", for the new user?03:23
mfuentestrekrem, very good03:23
onehotguitarplayhello, can anybody help me with this question...need to find a cd plug in for all of the multimedia...03:23
slewi like it03:23
dannyi'm using BootIT NG to resize my linux partition.  After its resized how do i make linux update the partition size?  i believe there is a resize2fs command or something similar but i can't remember.03:23
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calamarihi03:24
trekremthanks! commencing install...now!03:24
calamariI've asked this question a few times.. so I'm hoping 5th or 6th time is the charm03:24
Mercutiook my other problem is that I hav gstreamer installed but still no MP3 works03:24
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: $user03:24
Dreamgliderhow do i update from 5.10 preview til RC ?03:24
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Tuxedo_Kamenok03:24
mfuentesMercutio, install gstreamer0.8-mad03:24
Tuxedo_Kamencan you give it a try?03:24
Dreamgliderhow do i update from 5.10 preview to RC ?03:24
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calamarisometimes my hard drive light goes on solid and my computer freezes up.. this is for no reason.  Only started after upgrading to hoary03:25
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: you can try it03:25
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calamariI need to know why this is happening03:25
Tuxedo_Kameno_O can i?03:25
mfuentesDreamglider,  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade03:25
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: dont give out usernames and passwords in here03:25
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calamariis there a way I can find out what programs are accessing my hard drive?03:25
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: open a terminal and type sftp newusername@yourIP03:25
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calamarior is linux not able to know that?03:25
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onehotguitarplaywhat program can i use to get my mpeg to play?? anyone??03:26
bob2onehotguitarplay: mplayer03:26
onehotguitarplayhow is that?03:26
mfuentesMy Banshee music playe not import my music :(03:26
bob2how is what?03:26
slewonehotguitarplay, try kaffeine03:26
slewor vlc03:26
calamaribob2: do you happen to have any ideas?  please?03:26
calamariI'm afraid that one of these times I'm gonna lose everythign and have to strart ovber03:26
Mercutiook how do I get the gstreamer-mad, its not in the list onsynaptic03:26
onehotguitarplayis that what it is called, mplayer...03:26
slewcalamari, try typing 'top' in a terminal03:26
naliothubotu: tell Mercutio about sources03:26
calamarislew: I tried.. it was too frozen to run the command03:27
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bob2calamari: no user program can hard-lock your machine03:27
calamarislew: or too busy03:27
bob2(aside from X)03:27
slewahh03:27
apocxpGo hear for instructions on installing other codecs:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28fonts%2903:27
bob2onehotguitarplay: yes...03:27
mfuentesMercutio, add the "universe" and "multiverse" sections03:27
bob2all this codec crap is silly03:27
calamaribob2: I'm not sure.. I was havinbg trouble with the find command writing some find database03:27
calamaribob2: and that was freezing me..03:27
calamaribob2: so I think it's possible03:28
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gnomefreak:) that was easy03:28
dannyi'm using BootIT NG to resize my linux partition.  After its resized how do i make linux update the partition size?  i believe there is a resize2fs command or something similar but i can't remember.03:28
onehotguitarplaythanks I will give it a try03:28
calamarisome poorly written background problem is just taking over my hard drive for a while and making it puke03:28
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calamarianyone know how I can figure out which programs are using my hard drive?03:28
Dr_Willisare there like new updates comming out every hr. :P seems im constantly gettung update messages on 5.10 today03:29
calamariI'm tired of my computer freezing up03:29
naliothcalamari: install and run 'xdiskusage"03:29
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calamarinalioth: does that monitor what is using the disk in real time?03:30
naliothcalamari: you want "top"03:30
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benkong2why is it my new install of apache2 shows a directory listing of /var/www/ and I have to click on apache2-default to get the apache test page?03:30
calamarinalioth: okay I'm runnign top.. which column is disk usage?03:30
cafuego_and stay out03:31
calamarinalioth: I'm trying to figure out which program or process keeps locking up my computer by using my hard disk03:31
hablandocontigowhen's Breezy coming out?03:31
wolf1hi benkong2 i changed menu.lst but when i selected windows it just hangs. unable to boot03:31
Hobbsee!breezy03:31
hablandocontigo4 days03:31
naliothcalamari: do you have another machine and a home network?03:31
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calamarinalioth: I have a 68k mac and a 486dx03:32
benkong2wolf1; means your windows is not in (hd1,0)03:32
bob2calamari: er, if you have disk errors, you have lost, have a nice day03:32
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calamarinalioth: besides this machine that is03:32
bob2calamari: replace the disk and see if the problem persists03:32
steigweisshould one shut down the machine with shutdown -h or init 0. what is the better way and why?03:32
calamaribob2: I dont have disk errors03:32
bob2benkong2: change the docroot in apache2.conf to that dir then03:32
adellhi03:32
bob2calamari: "trouble with the find command writing some find database"03:32
calamaribob2: I have programs accessing my hard drive, locking it on solid and causing my computer to grind to a halt03:33
adellsomeone speak portuguese :D03:33
wolf1benkong2 i tried (hd0,0) (hd1,1) but no success03:33
naliothcalamari: if you ssh into this machine, you can run top and watch it for when the machine freezes03:33
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bob2calamari: define halyt03:33
bob2calamari: is it locked up? do things just take a really long time to start?03:33
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wolf1benkong2 according to du : /dev/hdb1             3.1G  1.4G  1.7G  46% /windows03:33
bob2why did I even reply to you if I have to *ask* things like this?03:33
benkong2wolf1; it should be hd1,0 that menas second hd 1st partition03:33
adellboa noite03:33
calamaribob2: at first things take a long time (because of the 100% hdd usage), then the pointer freezes up.. cant do anything but power down or reset03:34
nalioth!pt03:34
naliothah dang03:34
naliothportugues en #ubuntu-pt03:34
benkong2then your windows is actually mounted in ubuntu but you need to get it to boot03:34
bob2calamari: what on earth is running?03:34
benkong2bob2; thanks03:34
calamaribob2: that's what I want to know.. what is screwing me up03:34
bob2calamari: this is a default system?03:35
calamaribob2: it'll just do this out of the blue03:35
adellnalioth, thanks and is pt_BR ;)03:35
wolf1benkong2 yes i tried hd1,0 but it just hangs03:35
calamaribob2: yeah.. hoary, upgraded from warty03:35
slewcalamari, can you free up some space on your drive? do you have a good sized /swap?03:35
calamaribob2: never had these problems in warty03:35
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calamarislew: I have plenty of free disk03:35
benkong2wolf1; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda03:36
benkong2wolf1; then do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb and find where you windows partition is located03:36
calamarislew: I have 256mb swap space.. 384mb ram03:37
wolf1benkong2 /dev/hdb1   *           1         787     3173152+   b  W95 FAT3203:37
calamarimaybe it's something in cron03:38
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calamariis there a way to get a listing of everything cron will every try to run?03:38
calamarithen I can cut it all out03:38
benkong2wolf1; ok you should say root(hd1,0) it must be enclosed by the parens03:38
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wolf1benkong2 yes, that is what i did03:39
benkong2wolf1; also did you do the make active and chainloader commands in the menu.lst?03:39
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, wolf103:39
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Hobbseecalamari: you have tried top?03:40
wolf1benkong2 yes03:40
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calamariHobbsee: everyone suggests top, but no one then says what to do with it03:40
wolf1sorry ubotu03:40
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benkong2k hold on I am googling 4 u03:40
Hobbseeah, well that will list the programs that are running on yoru machine03:40
calamariHobbsee: it doesn't appear to mention which programs are using disk .. at ;least to my eyes03:40
silasjhi all03:40
Hobbseecalamari: maybe the ones using the most cpu power?03:41
silasjhey guys... which program do you recomend to burn cds?03:41
calamariHobbsee: I don't care about cpu.. just disk03:41
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calamariHobbsee: my hdd is going like crazy when it locks03:41
Hobbseecalamari: the one using a lot of cpu power is probably the one that is trying to lock your hard drive03:41
Hobbseedepending on what it is of course, most are necessary03:41
benkong2wolf1; try here http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/index.html03:42
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calamariI've actually succeeded in runnign top (or the graphical version) when it froze before, and I wasn't at 100% cpu03:42
calamariso I really need to know which program is using my disk drive03:42
ubotucalamari: what are you talking about?03:42
wolf1benkong2 cool will check03:43
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naliothcalamari: you need to run top from a remote machine, so you can see what was active at the time of freezing03:43
Hobbseeyeah, top wont be, but it will tell you whatever is using a lot of power, and probably hard disk as well03:43
calamariubotu: my computer's hddwill randomly go on solid., then my machine will lock shortly thereafter03:43
Dreamglider apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade didnt do anything so i guess i have RC03:43
naliothcafuego: ubotu is goin nuts03:43
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calamarinalioth: well, I have linux on the 486.. maybe I can hook this up somehow :)03:44
naliothcalamari: that would be the best way i could think of03:44
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calamarinalioth: is linux able to use null modem cables?03:44
naliothcalamari: although i'm sure logs are generated somewhere03:44
naliothcalamari: not sure what a null modem cable is03:45
calamarinalioth: it's a serial cable for connecting two computers by com port03:45
wolf1benkong2 looks like with win98 i need to map it to hd0 first. will try. thanks03:45
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naliothcalamari: i know nothing about that03:45
calamarinalioth: ahh, okay03:45
benkong2wolf1; k03:45
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Dreamgliderin terminal how can i see what version of ubuntu i have =03:47
Dreamglider==?03:47
naliothDreamglider: type lsb_release -a03:47
naliothDreamglider: or "cat /etc/issue"03:48
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ubotuOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of cafuego_)03:48
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kbrooksubotu's here!03:48
kbrooksyay, cafuego_ for bringing ubotu here!03:48
DreamgliderThe Breezy badger Release 5.10 os i'm as uptodate as can be03:49
cafuego_kbrooks: You're hallucinating.03:49
kbrooksgive cafuego_ three cheers!03:49
kbrooks1, 2, 3, cheer!03:49
kbrooks1, 2, 3, cheer!03:49
kbrooks1, 2, 3, cheer!03:49
kbrooks:P03:49
kbrookscafuego_: oh?03:49
naliothkbrooks: easy partner03:49
kbrookscafuego_: may i ask how?03:49
calamariI'm afraid to try breezy after how bad hoary has been03:50
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thrushsomeone forgot to take their riddiln03:50
calamarimaybe I have nothing to lose.. hehe03:50
naliothcalamari: it might fix your trouble03:50
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graighello. how do i add new mouse cursor themes?03:50
haasteemhi, is anybody using jabref for managing bibliographies?03:51
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calamarigraig: there is no gui to do it03:51
calamarigraig: at least that I'm aware of03:52
wickedpuppygraig, gnome-look.org03:52
gnomefreakart.gnome.org is good too03:52
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wickedpuppyyup yup ... there are sites for ya to make ya gnome really good ... :P03:53
Tuxedo_Kamenanyone knows how ddclient works?03:53
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cafuego_!test03:54
ubotuFailed.03:54
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logikal!test03:55
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graigi downloaded a mouse cursor theme from gnomelook,  how do i install it?03:55
StylusEaterwell it seems as if when I do a iwconfig my laptop doesn't detect the prism2 based usb "nic" I have even though an lsmod shows it's loaded...03:55
StylusEatercan't find wlan0 at all!03:55
mizeryIf there are two different wireless networks with the same SSID, how do I distinguish between the two (mac address of course) to connect to one in particular?03:55
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HrdwrBobchannel03:55
Audaxcan anyone help me with some live cd support?03:55
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naliothAudax: if you ask a question03:56
Audaxi ran the ubuntu live cd to test it out about 20 minutes ago. i closed it down and booted back into windows03:56
Audaxhowever, my display is totally messed up03:56
StylusEaterhow can I fix this? wlanctl-ng: no such device ....03:56
Audaxthe sides are squished, and i'm not sure how to fix it03:56
graigaudax, its probably your monitor.03:57
StylusEaterAudax: adjust your monitor settings03:57
graigthere might be an auto adjust button on the monitor.03:57
StylusEateraudax: should be a panel on the front of the monitor03:57
Audaxyes03:57
StylusEateraudax: adjust the settings until it's "right"03:57
Audaxokay03:57
Audaxbut i also noticed that under my display drivers03:57
StylusEateraudax: namely the horizontal and vertical size adjustments03:57
Audaxthere's added resolutions03:57
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StylusEateraudax: a live cd wouldn't do that...03:58
StylusEateraudax: can't do that03:58
Audaxreally?03:58
Audaxare there any settings or a list of files that are written to my HD03:58
Audaxwhen a live cd is ran?03:58
StylusEateraudax: NO03:58
Audaxthat is really strange03:58
StylusEaterAudax: to RAM yes... Hard Drive...no03:58
StylusEaterAudax: let alone to a windows partition03:58
Audaxis there any way that i can have my display resolutions be reset?03:58
Audaxfrom my onitor?03:58
Audaxlike unplugging it?03:58
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StylusEaterAudax: probably not...use the front panel03:59
dduckoIs there a way to display SHockwave in Linux/Ubuntu?03:59
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StylusEatercan anyone help me find out why wlan0 can't be found???03:59
bob2StylusEater: because you didn't laod the driver for it?04:00
naliothdducko: no way yeet04:00
StylusEaterbob2: it's loaded...shows in lsmod and dmesg04:00
bimberidducko: no04:00
Audaxi tried messing with the positions, but they can't reach far enough04:00
bob2StylusEater: dmesg shows it found your NIC?04:00
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bob2StylusEater: 'ifconfig -a' shows the device?04:00
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StylusEaterbob2: then when I run a wlnctl-ng wlan0 I get a no such device04:00
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StylusEaterbob2: dmesg shows it04:01
dduckothanks04:01
StylusEaterbob2: ifconfig -a doesn't just shows eth0, lo, and sit004:01
bob2StylusEater: there you go04:01
StylusEaterbob2: I assume sit0 is firewire04:01
graig!tell graig about wacom04:01
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StylusEaterbob2: so how can I figure out how do get wlanctl-ng and the rest of the system to assocate the alias I set in /etc/modules.conf with the loaded driver?04:02
bob2StylusEater: no, it's ipv6 tunneling04:02
bob2StylusEater: the indicates you've picked the wrong driver04:02
Audaxwould drivers be conflicting with this?04:02
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graigwhat can you use ssh for?04:02
bob2StylusEater: ignore modules.conf entirely until you actually get an interface up04:02
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bob2graig: for everything you can do when sitting in front of a computer04:02
StylusEaterbob2: k...it's an ma111 netgear usb wireless b card04:02
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StylusEaterbob2: I figured the prism2_usb is the correct driver?04:03
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bob2StylusEater: b? that sounds ominous.04:03
bob2StylusEater: maybe netgear were morons and changed the chipset04:03
shad0w1equestion: how do I copy an entire partition ???04:03
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Audaxis ther ea way04:04
Audaxto get rid of the display drivers in win 98 and start from scratch?04:04
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dylan_ok guys, ive installed the w32codecs, and the totem-xine package...why cant i play movies in epiphany?04:04
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bob2shad0w1e: I'm pretty sure you got answered in #debian already04:04
noirequusdylan_: did you install the mplayer-mozilla plugin?04:04
bob2shad0w1e: dd if=/dev/hdaX of=/whatever04:04
dylan_noirequus, no, and before i didnt need to04:05
shad0w1edd didnt work!!04:05
wolf1benkong2 grub did work as expected, i had to map win98 first to hb0. thanks for your help04:05
shad0w1eI ended up with a bunch of directories that I couldnt change into04:05
benkong2wolf1; np glad it worked for u04:05
wolf1benkong2 cheers04:06
bob2shad0w1e: what on earth are you talking about?04:06
bob2shad0w1e: do you know what dd does?04:06
StylusEaterbob2: no more ideas?04:06
graigi don't like the new clearlooks.04:06
dylan_noirequus, any ideas?04:06
bob2StylusEater: aside from using google to find out what chipset it is04:06
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StylusEaterbob2: already looking04:06
katewhere i can find java for kubuntu?\04:06
katewhere i can find java for kubuntu?\04:06
graigi dont like how it mixes square and round edges.04:06
_jason!tell kate about java04:07
noirequusubotu: tell kate about javadeb04:07
_jasonnoirequus:  i updated it remember?04:07
noirequusubotu: tell _jason about javadeb04:07
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apocxphave you looked at the following? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28fonts%29#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc6808704:08
noirequus_jason: no i dont remember, but i do now04:08
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dylan_noirequus, should i have installed the mplayer-mozilla plugin?  i want to use totem-xine...04:08
StylusEaterbob2: nothing04:08
noirequusdylan_: totem wont display in a browser04:08
dylan_noirequus, totem-xine will04:09
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elad`What do I need to apt-get to be able to use javac?04:09
noirequusdylan_: then you know more about it then I04:09
elad`The compiler.04:09
dylan_noirequus, should i have installed some other gstreamer plugins?04:09
bob2elad`: be more specific04:09
bob2elad`: e.g. are you using breezy? do you want sun's JDK?04:10
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elad`Using 5.04.04:10
elad`SDK, no?04:10
bob2I forget what sun call it04:10
dylan_can somebody help me with my totem-xine issue please?  i cannot play quicktime files04:10
dylan_in a browser04:10
bob2dylan_: does it work outside the browser?04:10
bob2elad`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:11
dylan_bob2, i can play quicktime files outside yes04:11
elad`I'm currently downloading jdk-1_5_0_05-nb-4_1-solsparc-ml.bin, but 120MB seems too much for what I need.04:11
logical_markHey guys what is the bonjour package04:11
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dylan_bob2, i have installed w32codecs, totem-xine and it still doesnt wkr04:11
dylan_work04:11
bob2elad`: It seems somewhat unlikely that you really want the solaris sparc version04:11
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elad`5.04 - Hoary?04:12
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Audaxbtw guys i fixed it04:12
elad`I copied the wrong line. No worries, I'm downloading the right package.04:12
Audaxubuntu locked my refresh rate at 60 hz04:13
elad`jdk-1_5_0_05-nb-4_1-linux-ml.bin04:13
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bob2Audax: no it didn't04:13
Audaxi used powerstrip in windows to change it back to 10004:13
emesis there a channel for ppc specific support, #ubuntu-ppc in empty04:13
bob2Audax: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:13
dazzlindanwhats the best way to run resize2fs to let linux allocate the new free space from a resize of the partition table?  from a bootdisk?  resize2fs can only be ran on an unmounted filesystem.04:13
bob2emes: here04:13
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bob2dazzlindan: if it's not the root partition, you can do it fro myour regular system04:13
sambagirlanyone using gnome meeting this minutes?04:13
bob2dazzlindan: if it is, getting the live cd is probably the simplest solution04:13
sambagirlhi bob204:13
dazzlindanbob2, can i do it from a floppy disk?04:14
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bob2dazzlindan: yes, but not simply04:14
dylan_bob2, will you help me please?04:14
bob2sambagirl: hi04:14
dylan_not to be annoying04:14
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bob2dylan_: I don't use xine or epiphany04:14
dazzlindanbob2, why not simply?04:14
bob2dylan_: and I don't use mozillaa plugins to watch videos, either04:14
bob2dazzlindan: do you know how to construct a linux boot disk containing parted?04:15
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esac_i plugged in a usb gamepad (think playstation controller). dmesg shows it as recognized, but nothing that ive tried seems to be able to use it. is there something i use to configure it, or something i can use to test it ?04:15
dazzlindanbob2, no. do you know where a tutorial is?04:15
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r0dhowdy bob2. did you take the plunge to breezy yet?04:15
bob2r0d: a few weeks ago04:15
esac_r0d : now thats a silly question :)04:15
moparfan90what are some other distros that use apt?04:16
r0dwhys that04:16
bob2dazzlindan: no, I'd really just go with a live cd of some sort04:16
r0dcool bob204:16
bob2dazzlindan: or even use the ubuntu installer itself04:16
bob2moparfan90: debian originated it of course, mandrake and fedora used connectiva's port for a while04:16
dazzlindanbob2, thats what i was going to do, but i don't have the disk with me04:16
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bob2moparfan90: (port of apt-get to rpm, that is)04:17
pioneerok i compiled mplayer and mplayer plugin from source as the packages in the repo dont work, ive tried  cp the .so and .xpt to my home .mozilla directory as well as  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and still no go04:17
bob2and all debian derivatives use it afaik04:17
dazzlindanbob2, i don't know if i made this clear... the partition is already resized.  i just need to run resize2fs on it to let linux reallocate it04:17
moparfan90bob2, oo well i'm looking for a distro that is similar to ubuntu and very good with the 64 bit stuff04:17
TokenBadwhats command for apt-get for force install?04:18
r0dmoparfan90,  i know a good distro. its not like ubuntu. gentoo has been really good for my 64-bit server04:18
moparfan90r0d, yes i heard that but that doesnt use apt, and thats what i like .. its very easy04:19
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r0dmoparfan90,  emerge is just like apt04:20
jcarrI accidentally xkill'd my kde desktop.. it went black and the icons disappeared04:20
jcarrhow can I GET IT BACK!?>04:20
r0dmoparfan90,  and in my opinion has acouple more features04:20
moparfan90oo04:20
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moparfan90maybe ill try gentoo then04:20
bob2moparfan90: by "64-bit" you mean "amd64"?04:20
bob2tokwat are you trying to do?04:20
bob2TokenBad: what are you trying to do?04:20
bob2jcarr: ctrl-alt-backspace, log back in again04:20
TokenBadreinstall electricsheep04:20
moparfan90bob2, yes04:21
bob2TokenBad: why would you want to force anything then?04:21
TokenBadcause its giving errors04:21
dylan_TokenBad, can you help me with my embedded video on web page issue?04:21
bob2TokenBad: so, show us the errors in #flood04:21
TokenBadtrying to overwrite `/usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml', which is also in package xscreensaver04:21
bob2right04:21
TokenBadthats the only error04:21
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bob2TokenBad: in future, asking questions like "whats command for apt-get for force install?" when you have a specific apt error is a really bad idea04:22
mfuentesAny body uses Banshee Music Player?04:22
TokenBadok04:22
bob2you should say "when I'm trying to reinstall the electricsheep package, I get $this error."04:22
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jcarrbob2, I dont want to log back in04:22
jcarrI have things going on!04:22
TokenBadwell with that error....I can't think of any other way to fix it04:22
jcarrI have a large java project compiling in a gnome term04:22
bob2TokenBad: do you know what that error means?04:22
TokenBadso if you have an idea would love to here it04:23
TokenBadno04:23
bob2jcarr: then #kde, good luck04:23
TokenBadheheh04:23
bob2TokenBad: read it again04:23
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TokenBadits saying the file is there04:23
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TokenBadbut it isn't04:23
katehow to fresh install ubuntu?04:23
StarKruzrHi again, guys.  I'm trying to do some kernel dev.  What version, specifically, of kernel am I on with Breezy right now?  uname -a says 2.6.12-9-386, which I can't find.  I can find lots of revisions of 2.6.12, but no #9.  Help?04:23
bob2TokenBad: it's not? what happened to it?04:23
toranhey, is the new version of the gimp out for ubuntu yet?04:23
GhostFreemanIsn't there an application for Windows that will allow access to Linux partitions?04:23
toran(GIMP 2.4)04:23
bob2StarKruzr: "can't find" = ?04:23
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StarKruzrbob2: I'm looking for the source on kernel.org/.04:24
bob2toran: you mean the version of the gimp that doesn't exist yet?04:24
bob2toran: no, it's not in ubuntu yet04:24
bob2StarKruzr: what are you trying to do?04:24
StarKruzrbob2: port a scheduler from 2.4 to 2.6.04:24
toranlol04:24
jcarrbob2, you just run kdesktop to get it back04:24
apokryphoswhat's up with the bot?04:24
toranbob2: I saw something in slashdot about it ><04:24
bob2jcarr: great04:24
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StarKruzrapokryphos, it's been having issues at least all night.04:25
bob2toran: about the fact that it's going to come out at some point, along with some screenshots of the development version?04:25
r0dtoran, are you talkinga bout that plugin that makes gimp look similar to photoshop?04:25
bob2StarKruzr: get 2.6.14 from kernel.org then04:25
TokenBaddon't know bob204:25
toranr0d:  no04:25
dazzlindanhow do you mount a floppy disk?04:25
toranbob2: pretty much, yeah04:25
bob2StarKruzr: or whatever the latest 2.6 kernel is04:25
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bob2TokenBad: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xscreensaver04:25
TokenBadnevermind it is there04:26
TokenBadmissed it last time04:26
apokryphosStarKruzr: ok, thanks04:26
TokenBadso how do I get electricsheep installed04:26
bob2TokenBad: you don't04:26
TokenBad?04:26
elad`bob2: It gets the bug the wiki mentions when I try fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "Elad Alon" --email "elad.alon@gmail.com" jdk-1_5_0_05-nb-4_1-linux-ml.bin, but the wiki's solution doesn't work.04:26
bob2TokenBad: xscreensaver appears to include it04:26
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StarKruzrbob2: let me explain exactly what's going on here.  I'm a grad student who was thrown into this project and has very little clue what he's doing.  here are my concerns: If I upgrade to 2.6.14, say, what will happen when Ubuntu does its kernel upgrade voodoo through the automatic updater in synaptic?  and how do I ensure that the modules and other important configuration stuff that I have configured in my current kernel wil04:27
StarKruzrl be reflected in the new one?04:27
TokenBadit don't show it in the screensaver selections04:27
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dazzlindanhow do i mount a floppy disk?  i tried mount /media/floppy but it says i need to specify the filesystem.  i used "man" to find out it was the -t option, but what filesystem should it be?04:27
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mizeryIs there a karaoke (lyrics) solution to compliment mp3 encoded songs?04:27
wickedpuppyStarKruzr, then you get the kernel that ubuntu is using ...04:27
calamarithis program is great: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html04:27
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StarKruzrwickedpuppy: Yes, that's my point.  I cannot find it on kernel.org.04:28
bob2TokenBad: dpkg -L xscreensaver | grep -i electric04:28
The_Voxdazzlindan: mount -t auto /dev/floppy04:28
WinZdazzlindan, mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy04:28
calamariwith this I can turn on/off services, see whats running, etc04:28
dazzlindanthank you04:28
The_Voxdazzlindan: or try -t vfat04:28
IceDC571which wireless cards work out of the box with ubuntu?04:28
wickedpuppyStarKruzr, you expect kernel.org to have the kernel that ubuntu uses ?04:28
StarKruzruname -a says it's version 2.6.12-9.04:28
bob2StarKruzr: kernel developers don't use distro kernels04:28
StarKruzrok, that helps.  Where do I get the distro kernel?04:28
TokenBad /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml04:28
r0dStarKruzr,  you have to backup the modules that you create on your own. thats what i have to do with my patched wireless .ko's04:28
bob2StarKruzr: distro kernel = the one your distro includes by default04:28
bob2StarKruzr: first step will be to build your own kernel from kernel.org source.  if you can't do that, you'll need to get someone on your team to show you how.04:29
StarKruzrdo I already have the source and not know it?04:29
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bob2StarKruzr: then add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst as a new entry and make sure it boots04:29
wickedpuppybob2, i think he means the source of the kernel that is in breezy ..04:29
StarKruzrwhat wickedpuppy said.04:29
bob2wickedpuppy: hacking against 2.6.12 is going to be trouble04:30
bob2since it's already out of date04:30
wickedpuppyah i know .. well he wants trouble :P04:30
bob2this really really sounds like you need direction from your group leader04:30
wickedpuppylol04:30
bob2or whatever04:30
StarKruzrI have to replace the scheduler.04:30
TokenBadbob2,  /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml04:30
TokenBadbut I still don't see it listed in screensavers04:30
StarKruzrI just need a kernel that I can patch against that I know will boot on my machine.04:30
calamariStarKruzr: if all you want are ubuntu kernel sources, fire up synaptic.. it has everything in there04:31
gnomefreakis there a screensaver download page thats safe?04:31
wickedpuppyStarKruzr, then get 2.6.11 ... its in synaptic04:31
StarKruzrI already have the patch file, but it's for 2.4.19.04:31
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StarKruzr(Hence the porting task)04:31
bob2StarKruzr: dude, if you can't compile your own kernel, you're going to be fucked if you're going to be re-writing the most complicated part of it04:31
katehot to mount my drive so that i can see my ubuntu in windows xp?04:31
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StarKruzrI'm patching, not re-writing.04:31
StarKruzr(Trust me, I am well aware of the depth of the shit that I am standing in)04:31
r0dStarKruzr, its called kernel-source in synaptic. and also download the headers04:31
bob2StarKruzr: you know 2.4 has an entirely different scheduler to 2.6, right?04:31
bob2StarKruzr: you haven't been told what kernel version you have to port it to?04:32
StarKruzrCompletely.  One of the big deals about 2.6 was its new O(n) scheduler.04:32
StarKruzrbob: "2.6."04:32
bob2you mean O(1)?04:32
StarKruzro_O04:32
bob2O(n) isn't very impresive ;p04:33
StarKruzrConstant time?04:33
bob2oh, dude04:33
elad`bash: javac: command not found - Why's that?04:33
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bob2elad`: because you don't have the JDK installed04:33
calamarielad`: do you have java installed?04:33
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elad`I've just finished installing it.04:33
bob2elad`: well, its installed incorrectly04:33
bob2perhaps you didn't update your $PATH04:34
elad`How do I update that?04:34
esac_anybody know how to get a gamepad working ?04:34
IceDC571how do i get wpa2 to work on linux?04:34
calamarielad`: do you want it for all system users, or just you?04:34
StarKruzrbob: Let's suppose I wanted to do work with a 2.4.19 kernel instead.  Is there some way I can get a basic 2.4 environment running on my Ubuntu machine that I can boot into when I need to do dev on it?04:35
esac_IceDC571: modify /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, modify /etc/default/wpasupplicant as necessary04:35
elad`I'm the only system user.04:35
pioneerwhich directories do the mplayer plugin.so and .xpt go in? ive tried em all and no worky worky04:35
pioneerfor firefox04:35
bob2StarKruzr: then you get 2.4.19 from kernel.org (that kernel is ridiculously old and riddled with local root exploits, btw), unpack it and configure it04:35
calamarielad`: hmm.. well, might as well use /etc/profile anyways04:35
bob2StarKruzr: you will need to configure it manually, or get someone else to do it for you04:35
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StarKruzrActually, I got it to build, and even boot.04:36
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bob2great04:36
StarKruzrHowever, the problem appears to be that it has no environment to live in.04:36
StarKruzrLemme tell you what it says.04:36
elad`calamari: Tell me more about that please. I've located the javac executable, by the way.04:36
elad`It's in ~/jdk..../bin04:36
calamarielad`: ahh, okay04:36
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calamarielad`: are you at a console prompt04:37
elad`Aha.04:37
calamarielad`: if so, type: gedit ~/.bashrc04:37
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StarKruzrbob: Last line is "Please append a correct "root=" boot option / Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:0304:38
StarKruzrenquote.04:38
StarKruzrd^04:38
bob2StarKruzr: that means you misconfigured the kernel or your boot loader04:38
StarKruzrit's the boot loader, I think.04:39
StarKruzrhere is what I told it to do04:39
elad`calamari: What do I add in there?04:39
StarKruzr(there is no reason it shouldn't be able to grok ext3, is there?)04:39
bob2er?04:39
bob2of course there is; if you didn't configure ext3 into the kernel04:39
StarKruzrisn't it there by default?04:40
bob2no04:40
StarKruzr...04:40
bob2the default configuration is of no use04:40
StarKruzrthe light dawns.04:40
bob212:35:48           bob2 | StarKruzr: you will need to configure it manually, or get someone else to do it for you04:40
bob2I don't even think the default config boots on linus's computer anymore04:40
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StarKruzrhah04:40
cevizoglubob2: why, because he's using a G5?04:41
The_Voxbob2: no, it doesn't...he's on a mac now :)04:41
cevizogluha04:41
bob2zing!04:41
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The_Voxhe uses linux, of course, but on a mac :)04:41
StarKruzris he really?04:41
StarKruzrthat seems like a waste of cash04:41
StarKruzrwhy use a G5 if you're not going to run OSX04:41
cevizogluI just quit my powerbook for a thinkpad this week..  hehe04:41
bob2StarKruzr: because they're fast and well-designed?04:41
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cevizoglubob2: and make great helicopter noises when they get hot  :)04:42
esac_i have a usb hid gamepad. dmesg shows it detected correctly. jstest /dev/js0 picks it up just fine. but tuxracer and ePSXe doesn't seem to use it. any ideas ?04:42
StarKruzrI dunno.  No point in getting into an arch war but it still seems a mite silly to me04:42
cevizoglubob2: I use a G5 at work04:42
The_VoxStarKruzr: what he said was that the G5 arch is less idiotic than the x86 arch04:43
njanwhat?! the latest ipw2200 supports rfmon.. the latest kismet talks to ipw2200.. and breezy has both. And it works really well. Life is too perfect, something bad's about to happen04:43
StarKruzrwell, I suppose I can't argue with that.04:43
bob2hah04:43
StarKruzrnjan: EMP over ubuntu.org's servers04:44
njanStarKruzr, that's fine, I just apt-get upgraded04:44
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njanStarKruzr, :P04:44
bytefootilda owns :/04:44
StarKruzrsee?  it's starting already04:44
bob2an EMP on ubuntu's servers would probably get you killed by mi-604:44
njanbob2, yeah, they probably all use ubuntu. :P04:45
cevizoglubob2: my powerbook was excellent for supporting linux, but I wanted flash, eclipse, wine, and a few other apps to work04:45
cevizoglubob2, or should I say, linux was excellent for supporting my powerbook04:45
bob2eclipse doesn't work with IBM's ppc java?04:46
cevizoglubob2, oh, and I wanted a 2ghz processor also04:46
bob2my bigger complaint with my ibook was lack of wireless04:46
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cevizoglubob2, I got wireless working ok, but I sure couldn't figure out getting eclipse to work04:46
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StarKruzrhow is tablet support in Linux in general these days?  hardware and application.04:46
cevizoglubob2, I couldn't even find an eclipse package04:47
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StarKruzrprobe hardware, configure kernel appropriately04:47
StarKruzrask some questions that it can't probe.04:48
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bob2StarKruzr: because it's silly04:48
bytefoobecause what does "appropriately" mean?04:48
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bytefoomaybe its not appropriate for me :|04:48
bob2StarKruzr: the only people who need to compile kernels these days are kernel developers04:48
StarKruzrI suppose.04:48
bob2and configuring a kernel is simple compared to hacking it's code04:48
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cevizoglubob2, at least on ubuntu  ;)04:49
bob2that said, someone actually wrote a program to do that04:49
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StarKruzrbytefoo: appropriately as in "compile support into the kernel for the hardware the script detects"04:49
keithcuHey all. Here is my list of Ubuntu bugs: http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?page_id=1504:49
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StarKruzrbob: oh?  What's it called?04:49
j-linuxI'm having an error with synaptic.  I pasted the error message here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/295804:49
j-linuxIt's ldp-docbook-xsl04:49
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bob2StarKruzr: no idea, it was mentioned on LKML last week04:49
j-linuxAny ideas?04:49
bytefooHWD for archlinux does that04:49
StarKruzrhm04:50
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TokenBadhow do you install and build dep at same time?04:50
TylerDurdenis there an op here?04:50
bob2keithcu: bugs won't be fixed unless you file them in the BTS04:50
pioneerok so i got mplayer and mplayer plugin working pretty much but now it just buffers 100% of the file and never plays it????04:50
bob2TylerDurden: ?04:50
TylerDurdenr u an op bob2?04:50
synackuatoris anyone pro at getting prism2 cards to work?04:50
dazzlindanwhy do i get "you must specify a filesystem" when i do: mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ??04:50
bob2TokenBad: sudo apt-get build-dep blah ; apt-get source -b blah04:50
bob2TylerDurden: what do you want?04:50
StarKruzrhe's not an op unless you stop talking like that :p04:50
TylerDurdeni need an op04:50
cevizogluj-linux, looks like a very useless error telling you the process quit or crashed during the pre-installation script04:50
bob2dazzlindan: because you didn't tell it what filesystem it is04:51
bob2TylerDurden: what?04:51
TokenBadhmm04:51
bob2dazzlindan: -t vfat, probably04:51
TylerDurdenr u an op? yes or no04:51
bob2TylerDurden: holy god, ask your question already04:51
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TylerDurdenwow forget it04:51
TylerDurdeni dont have a question about linux, i have a question about the server04:51
j-linuxcevizoglu: any idea how I can get that installed?  I'm not even sure what it does -- I think it is required for another thing I installed to view docbook format in HTML or something...04:51
nixuseris the new ubuntu really called greezy faggot?04:51
bob2so ask it04:51
dazzlindanbob2, mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device04:51
bob2jeez04:51
bob2nixuser: no, don't be stupid04:51
j-linux:S04:51
TylerDurdenthats why i need an admin to delete the user TylerDurden because it says its taken and i forgot my identify password04:51
nixuserfrom what i hear it should be04:52
bob2TylerDurden: that has nothing to do with IRC ops04:52
synackuatordon't go breezy!! it has issues still04:52
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StarKruzrTyler, why would he have answered what you said if he wasn't an op?04:52
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bob2TylerDurden: #freenode, you need a staff member04:52
TylerDurdenbob2 can you remove my nickname from the server so i can rerigster?04:52
bytefoo:|04:53
TylerDurdenreregister*04:53
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Cluster_Manomg04:53
UdontKnow(1128912808 23:53) [freenode]  -*NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The nickname [tylerdurden]  has been dropped04:53
UdontKnowTylerDurden: please register04:53
TylerDurdenthank you04:53
UdontKnowbob2: thanks for hilighting04:53
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StarKruzrANYWAY.  Bob, thanks for the kernel config help.  I'm going to give this a shot again when I get home.04:53
dazzlindanbob2, mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device04:53
bob2UdontKnow: hah04:54
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bob2dazzlindan: that means it thinks you don't have a floppy drive04:54
bob2dazzlindan: perhaps the correct driver is't loaded04:54
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lightstarheya every1...04:54
TylerDurdenbob2 how can i make my irc client to launch a command everytime i open it? i want it to identify me automatically04:54
dazzlindanbob2, well i had just used it and thats what i don't understand04:55
lightstaranyone got a good ubuntu mirror site for upgrade in asia region?04:55
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j-linuxWhat is a ".deb" file?04:55
DonLWell, I screwed it up again. Second time I tried to update from Hoary to Breezy, and second time I lost X, and can't figure out how to get it back04:55
bob2TylerDurden: depends on your irc client04:56
bob2lightstar: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive04:56
bob2j-linux: a Debian or Ubuntu package04:56
TylerDurdendonl, go to recovery mode and type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:56
j-linuxThere are .deb files in my /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory04:56
TylerDurdenbob2 i have x-chat04:56
bob2j-linux: that's fine04:56
bob2TylerDurden: no idea04:56
TylerDurdenok04:56
j-linuxbob2: if ony of my deb files is having an error, is there a way to fix it?04:56
lightstarbob2: thx04:56
DonLTylerDurden, thanks, but I've done that a few times now04:56
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TylerDurdenwhich card do u have donl?04:56
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hajikiwhat bot does obotu run on?04:57
bob2j-linux: this is where you show us the error in #flood04:57
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bob2hajiki: blootbot.sf.net04:57
hajikibob2, ty04:57
DonLTylerDurden, I have an Nvidia MX04:57
j-linuxbob2: I pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/295804:57
DonLMX44004:57
j-linuxWhat is #flood?04:57
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moparfan90if i use ubuntu 64-bit can i installeverything that unsupported in 32 form?04:58
TylerDurdendonl, what you want to do is go to vesa mode through the dpkg command, then launch ubuntu normally, and go to synpatic, and search for nvidia, then mark nvidia-glx and nvidia-control or something close, dpkg again, and select nvidia and it should work04:58
pietro_spinaTylerDurden:  in x-ccat menu select server list and put your password in there...04:58
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DonLTylerDurden, quite frankly, now that you mention it, I didn't do the dpkg-reconfigure in recovery mode04:58
TylerDurdendonl you should try that, im sure it would work after you installed the drivers04:59
TylerDurdenpietro_spina where is server list?04:59
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TylerDurdenpietro_spina nvm i found it ty04:59
pietro_spinaTylerDurden:  ctrl-s04:59
moparfan90bob2, do you know?05:00
moparfan90is bob2 or seveas here?05:00
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tritiummoparfan90: you can setup a 32 bit chroot05:01
moparfan90whats chroot mean/do?05:01
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logical_markHey guys on my laptop running ubuntu I can hover my mouse of a music file and it will start playing, what enables that so I can make it happen on my desktop05:01
DonLTylerDurden, thanks muchly. I'm off to try!05:01
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synackuatori dunno but sometimes my box plays mp3 by itself in the background running as process mpg123 or something...05:03
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evianhi. I switched my driver to nvidia-glx-legacy and installed the kernel module but I still get a black screen and a machine lockup with it. Maybe I should buy a new graphics card and use the newer drivers?05:04
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evianI'm kinda depressed05:05
seifeIs there any way to install a HP ScanJet 3200c?05:05
synackuatorevian: lol what video are you running05:05
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evianits a ti420005:06
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synackuatorerr did you check nvidia's site to see if it's supported w/ that driver05:06
evianyeah it is05:06
evianor it says it is05:06
evianit isn't THAT old05:07
tritiumevian: which nvidia card do you have?05:07
unpersonAnyone know if I change a setting in firefox in about:config, how do I make it persist to the next session?05:07
bytefootheres an extension that does that05:07
cafuego_unperson: That happens automagically05:07
seifeCan anyone tell me whats the new thing on Breezy?05:07
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synackuatori had an fx5200 and i could not get rendering to work period - went to a 6600 gt and used the howto in the ubuntuguide and it worked great05:08
bytefoooh nm05:08
evianits an MSI geforce4 mx I think otherwise known as a 4200ti05:08
tritiumseife: gnome 2.1205:08
logical_markHey guys on my laptop running ubuntu I can hover my mouse of a music file and it will start playing, what enables that so I can make it happen on my desktop05:08
synackuatorit could be an mx420 / 440 ?05:08
seifetritium, whats new in gnome 2.12?05:08
tritiumseife: check the gnome website05:08
evianyeah its an mx44005:08
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dariussuh oh, major bug in Ubuntu RC.  System / About Ubuntu  -  Could Not Load Document05:09
synackuatormx440 != 4200ti but it should still work if nvidia says so05:09
logical_markHey guys on my laptop running ubuntu I can hover my mouse of a music file and it will start playing, what enables that so I can make it happen on my desktop05:09
synackuatorlogical_mark: stop05:09
eviansynackuator, oh ok... um let me check the box here...05:09
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logical_marksynackuator, I did not mean to send that two times in a row05:10
unpersoncafuego:  Does it?  I seem to have just has one revert after restarting the browser.  Well, I'll have to try it again and see what happens.05:10
kevogoddariuss, I get the same thing! Critical Mass.05:10
Cluster_Manare the repositories down i have a fresh install of breezy keep getting: "Couldn't stat source package list http://"05:10
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Cluster_Manapt-get update dose nadda05:10
Hobbsee!tell Cluster_Man about repositories05:10
dylan_how do i play embedded movies using totem-xine?05:10
eviantritium, synackuator, ok its a G4Ti4200-DT6405:11
logical_marksynackuator, I dont suppose you know the answer do you?05:11
Cluster_Man:-) just asking.05:11
eviannot an mx anything sorry05:11
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synackuatorevian: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html05:12
eviansnackuator, how much did you get your 6600 gt for?05:12
scribbles!ati05:12
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx05:12
Cluster_Manthats not my question or the answer what are you talking about i dont need to add a repo.05:12
erickGood Morning05:12
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synackuatorevian: your card is in that list i believe regardless the main nvidia-glx driver should work05:13
synackuatorevian: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver05:13
dylan_can somebody help me please?05:13
synackuatorevian: i got my MSI 6600gt 128mb agp for about $165 on newegg about 2 months ago i believe05:13
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eviansynackuator, hmm I tried the main one before but that did the same thing, someone earlier suggested I have a geforce2 chipset which needs the legacy driver; they said nvidia broke the support for older cards like mine in the newer unified drivers05:14
Cluster_Manare the servers down i cannot connect: apt-get update fails. any apt commands that involve talking to the repositories fails.05:14
Cluster_Man?05:14
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synackuatorlogical_mark: all i know is that mpg123 might do the trick as I believe it is designed for running in the background / as a daemon.  you might try googling that - or check the forums05:14
erickGuys need help, Im installing gyach to my ubuntu machine and issue this cmd ./configure and after this I get this error "checking for  C compiler default output.... configure: error C compiler cannot create executables" guys how can I resolve this error05:15
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dylan_i cannot play videos using totem-xine in epiphany....please help!!!05:15
logical_marksynackuator, thanks05:15
bob2erick: install build-essential05:15
bob2dylan_: please stop it05:15
TylerDurdeni download unrar but how do i use it now?05:15
synackuatorevian: hmm bummer - have you searched ubuntuforums?05:15
dylan_bob2, sorry i need it for a presentation in 2 mins05:15
bob2dylan_: if someone knew, they would answer you, being annoying is not going to make someone magically remember05:15
erickbobs, what cmmd I will use apt-get install build-essential?05:15
HobbseeCluster_Man: the repos, at least for breezy seem fine, you have the correct repos?05:15
dylan_bob2, im sorry...my apoligies05:15
bob2erick: yes...05:16
erickbob2 thanks05:16
bob2dylan_: does firefox with mozilla-mplayer work?05:16
synackuatorevian: there's also the nvidia forums - might be able to find something here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=1405:16
dylan_bob2, i dont like mplayer05:16
dylan_bob2, theres no sound05:16
bob2dylan_: that's great05:16
bob2dylan_: pkill esd05:16
bob2dylan_: does it work?05:16
dylan_bob2, no05:16
Cluster_Manyes this is fresh install i have done the updates and can no longer hit the repos. i have made no changes. i have used linux for years debian and ubuntu.05:17
bob2dylan_: define doesn't work?05:17
eviansynackuator, I looked on ubuntuforums, but not on the nvidia forums, so thats a good idea thanks05:17
dylan_bob2, totem-xine worked in the past05:17
bob2Cluster_Man: so you surewly know how to debug network issues?05:17
Cluster_Manyes its just odd and the only time i have ever had a prob with ubuntu is when the servers are down.05:17
HobbseeCluster_Man: breezy or hoary?05:18
bob2Cluster_Man: archive.ubuntu.com is fine here05:18
synackuatori just checked - breezy and hoary boxes apt-get update just fine05:18
erickCluster_man: I don't thinkd there is a problem with the server cause minutes ago I finished my updates05:18
Cluster_Manmy network is fine, all other web related services works great.05:19
bob2Cluster_Man: well, archive.ubuntu.com is fine05:19
Hobbseejust checked it, all the reps for breezy seem to be fine05:19
erickCluster_Man can you ping the rep site05:19
dylan_bob2, where can i get the w32codecs in a deb?05:19
Cluster_Manok ok, but the only thing NOT working for me is syncing up with the repos.05:20
bob2Cluster_Man: ok, but it is fine05:20
Cluster_Manbrb i got a hunch now. :-)05:20
scribbleshow od I get my kernel version05:20
scribblesso I can get ATI drivers working05:20
tritiumscribbles: uname -r05:21
scribblesthx05:21
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bob2dylan_: lots of places, including debian.video.free.fr/05:21
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GTroywhat's the easiest/best mp3 player?05:23
bob2none05:23
bob2I like cplay, tho05:23
heartEyeI have a printer and I am going to make a letter for someone in the army.  Can I just connect my printer to my computer and hope for the best?05:23
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TylerDurdeni downloaded unrar but how do i use it now?05:23
bob2TylerDurden: by "download" you mean "installed with synaptic", right?05:23
TylerDurdeni want to unrar a file but it still says its unsupported05:23
TylerDurdenyes bob205:23
dazzlindanwhat is the line to add to menu.1st to make it boot from floppy?05:23
bob2TylerDurden: unrar x foo.rar05:24
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cafuego_TylerDurden: unrar-nonfree05:24
macgeek(ot) how do i change the color of text in the middle of a sentence in irc?05:24
TylerDurdenthats the one cafuego_05:24
TylerDurdenbob2 is there a gui?05:24
cafuego_macgeek: this channel doesn't allow for colour codes.05:24
macgeekwell if it did, how would i do it?05:24
TylerDurdenbob2 it says command not found05:24
cafuego_macgeek: And neither should you.05:24
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calamaridoes delivery of local mail depend on the postfix service?05:25
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bob2TylerDurden: then you didn't install unrar05:25
AaronTHello everyone05:25
TylerDurdenlet me check05:25
macgeekcafeugo_: why not?05:25
bob2calamari: it depends on some mta, yes05:25
calamaribob2: thanks05:25
cafuego_macgeek: Nonstandard spam.05:25
ordbalHELLO05:25
TylerDurdenyes i did bob205:25
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TylerDurdenaccording to synaptic its installed05:25
macgeekcafeugo_: i think it looks cool. for example, if your showing what your listening to and you change the color of song and artist to set them apart05:25
bob2TylerDurden: dpkg -L unrar | grep bin05:25
macgeekcafeugo_ how is it spam?05:25
AaronTAnyone know how to change the ubuntu boot splash (the one with the loading bar)05:26
cafuego_macgeek: Those kidsn of scripts are also banned on this channel.05:26
TylerDurdenit says unrar is not installed05:26
bob2AaronT: non-trivial; how much do you care?05:26
bob2TylerDurden: there you go05:26
macgeekcafeugo_: it takes a script? ok thanks05:26
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TylerDurdenbut it is! synaptic shows it green05:26
TylerDurdenand only options r removal and complete removal05:26
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erickbob2, thanks it work05:26
macgeekcafeugo_: i wasnt planning on using it on this channel, especially if i'll get banned :|05:26
scribbleshow do I know if im using deforma fonts?05:27
AaronTIts rather dull and boring05:27
AaronTubuntu logo on black05:27
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bob2AaronT: hwo often are you rebooting?05:27
seifeHow do i change from Gnome to Ximian?05:28
AaronTevery day05:28
bob2AaronT: suspend-to-disk?05:28
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cafuego_seife: That question does not compute.05:28
AaronTdual boot with xp05:28
bob2seife: Ximian is a company, not a desktop05:28
bob2seife: if you mean Ximian Gnome, I don't think it exists anymore05:28
cafuego_bob2: It does, it's called SuSE.05:29
jhankisnt ximian taken over by novel?05:29
synackuatorevian: are you using breezy by any chance?05:29
bob2hah05:29
jhankwhich also took over suse05:29
TylerDurdenso bob2 whats going on? why doesnt iw rok?05:29
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bob2"it work"?05:29
TylerDurdenyeah lol typo05:29
bob2I don't know, I don't use synaptic05:29
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bob2you don't have the package installed, tho05:29
TylerDurdenlol but it shows it as installed05:30
amerkertWow, just installed 5.10 preview (powerpc) seems to be alot of improvements over 5.0405:30
TylerDurdenE: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate05:30
TylerDurden what does this mean?05:30
naliothamerkert: yes there are05:30
amerkertALL my hardware works now05:30
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naliothTylerDurden: it means you have some weird repos05:31
TylerDurdeni get that messsege a lot. how cna i make sure theyre all fine?05:31
TylerDurdeni didnt change anything, i just added universe05:31
TylerDurdenfrom repos in synaptic05:31
bob2TylerDurden: that means it doesn't know where to get that package from05:31
bob2TylerDurden: but it heard that it existed05:31
bob2TylerDurden: enable multiverse, in this case05:32
TylerDurdenweird =/05:32
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naliothTylerDurden: add multiverse05:32
TylerDurdentheres no multiuniverse in synaptic05:32
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naliothTylerDurden: read. multiverse05:32
TylerDurdensame thing, typo05:32
seethruTylerDurden: then edit it manually...05:32
TylerDurdenim not doing it manually05:32
seethruwtf not05:32
TylerDurdenthose mess it up, i tried once, i couldnt download anything05:32
seethruuh05:32
seethruI always edit it manually05:33
naliothTylerDurden: unfortunately, you are gonna havta open the terminal from time to time05:33
erickbob2, ./configure is successful but when i issue the next cmd the make I got lots of error "aliases.c413 erro:"cmd_value2' undeclared (first use in this function)05:33
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TylerDurdennalioth how do i edit it through terminal?05:33
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naliothTylerDurden: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"05:34
naliothubotu: tell TylerDurden about cli05:34
jgrieves_yello all05:34
bob2erick: sounds like buggy code05:34
erickbob2 yes05:35
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jgrieves_how are you all doing05:35
jgrieves_awesome :)05:36
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erickbob2, first time to install gyach05:36
erickbob2 I try to use apt-get to install this but it is not available in the rep site05:37
bob2okiedokie05:37
bob2sounds like you need to talk to whoever wrote it05:37
erickbob2,have you try installing gyach?05:37
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bob2never even heard of it05:38
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erickbob2, k, this is also first time to hear it in this room one of the user advise me to used it so I try but it seem im not successful05:39
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erickanyone used or try installing gyach05:39
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pajamahi, can I use the infrared port in my portable to control the TV, as a remote control?05:39
naliotherick: do you have a link for it?05:40
bob2what on earth is it?05:40
ericknalioth, here is the link http://www4.infi.net/~cpinkham/gyach/#whatis05:41
erickbob2,gyach is like a messenger that according to user it can use the webcam feature like yahoo messenger05:42
Ohtsugood night05:42
naliothbob2: gtk based yahoo client05:42
bob2erick: that sounds like gaim, but less useful and more unmaintained05:42
naliothbob2: correct05:42
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bob2erick: I'd be kinda surprised if it worked at all, too, since the last release was in 200305:43
erickbob2,yes but gaim does not support webcam05:43
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erickbob2 your right bob, but according to site it is the stable release05:44
sentra99ok i new to ubuntu and need help finding a program for par2 files05:44
sentra99any help would be great05:44
naliotherick: gaim-vv supports video05:45
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naliothsentra99: apt-cache search par205:45
naliothsentra99: in a terminal05:45
mustard5hmmm...irc looks the same from breezy. :)05:45
naliothmustard5: you are mistaken. we are all mirror images now.05:45
mustard5hehe05:45
mustard5a faultless install from the pre-release05:46
mustard5I like it when it goes like that05:46
ibrasilsomebody know where i find webcam ibm 11043 driver? if exists05:46
ericknalioth gaim -vv?gaim  1.5.0-1ubuntu3 is the built -in in ubuntu, can I upgrade this using this cmd, apt-get upgrade gaim -vv?05:46
naliotherick: no. you have to compile it yourself05:47
sentra99anyone able to help?05:47
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ericknalioth, so it safe to uninstall the built-in gaim and recompile the new one?05:48
bob2no05:48
bob2just leave it05:48
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AaronTMy gaim is 1.5.0 isnt that the newest?05:48
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erickbob2, is your answer address to my question?05:48
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naliotherick: sure is. ymmv05:49
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chi_mklo05:49
naliothAaronT: we are discussing an experimental gaim05:49
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ericknalioth. what is ymmv? is this the packages name for gaim -vv05:50
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cevizoglu!ymmv05:50
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cevizogluyour mileage may vary05:51
naliotherick: means it may work for you, and may not05:52
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erickk nalioth thanks05:53
naliotherick: as bob2 says, leave your gaim alone05:53
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erickk05:54
NewDudeWhen is 5.10 officially out05:54
naliothNewDude: er, read /topic05:54
NewDudeOh snap, sorry. Thanks05:54
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mustard515th?05:55
cevizoglu13th05:55
kevogod13th05:55
tritiumnalioth: what are those users experiencing X problems reporting?05:55
sudonimOn the topic - what is the upgrade process for moving from 5.04 to 5.10?05:55
gefbalshello i need help for my serial mouse on ubuntu 5.10?05:55
naliothx not starting05:55
Rev-Marcis there anything to gain by installing KDE in Ubuntu "Kubuntu" is is it more detramental?05:55
wickedpuppysudonim, sudo apt-get disk-upgrade05:55
naliothubotu: tell sudonim about upgrade2breezy05:55
bob2sudonim: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes05:56
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bob2gefbals: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xforg, set it up manually05:56
naliothRev-Marc: it is just another desktop system05:56
sudonimcool thanks!05:56
AaronTWill it be difficult going from the 5.10 preview to the final?05:56
jgrieves_Aaron, no05:56
naliothRev-Marc: you can have as many desktop systems as you wish05:56
jgrieves_have you been upgrading?05:56
tritiumAaronT: just keep it up-to-date05:56
jgrieves_if so with no problems, you'll be fine05:56
erickthanks, but naliot I try this cmd to install gaim -vv apt-get install gaim -vv and get this error apt 0.6.40.1ubuntu9 for linux i386 compiled on Oct  5 2005 13:40:0805:56
erick \ Supported modules: \ *VEr: Standard .deb \ * Pkg: Debian dpkg interface (Priority 30) S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary source tree05:56
gefbalsic tnx whats the difference between the xserver-xorg or xserver-xforf?05:56
jgrieves_RC is almost complete05:56
Rev-Marcso it can be installed and swiych back and forth?05:57
gefbalsbob2: i mean xforg05:57
kevogodWhen I lock my screen and then come back to it, shouldn't the guy with the goatee, which I find disturbing, be my login photo instead?05:57
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bob2gefbals: typo05:57
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Rev-Marcthat is switch05:57
jgrieves_all of my bugs are done except the About Ubuntu, whcih will be lame if it doesn't get fixed05:57
cafuego_erick: you're inventing spaces where there are none05:57
cafuego_erick: The package is 'gaim-vv' and not 'gaim -vv'05:58
erickcafuego_ k thanks05:58
kevogodAnyone know?05:58
gefbalswhen i run the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the mouse detection portion was not anymore in the pages...05:58
naliothRev-Marc: yes it can05:58
AaronTkevogod: I have the same funny bug05:58
naliothRev-Marc: and you can run kde progs under gnome and vice versa05:58
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Rev-MarcThanks....05:59
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kevogodI personally think they should strike the goatee, but meh05:59
Rev-Marcthat's kewl05:59
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bob2guy with a goatee?06:00
AaronTbob2: The little profile pictures (avatars)06:00
davidmccabeSorry if this has already been asked a million times, but: With just four days until breezy, if I upgraded today I would get basically the exact same packages while avoiding the download rush hour, right?06:00
erickcafuego, http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/download.html can you check this site, there are 3 choices and don't know what will I pick,06:00
bob2oh, ok, not me then06:00
kevogodbob2, The default "About Me" avatar and the one that appears on the Lock/Login screen.06:00
bob2davidmccabe: mostly06:00
davidmccabebob2: mostly what? :)06:00
cafuego_erick: sorry, busy06:01
bob2davidmccabe: mostly the same06:01
bob2I'd be pretty surpised if it was hard to download on the day, tho06:01
davidmccabebob2: gotcha. anything important being changed or that I should know if I wish to upgrade to breezy tonight?06:01
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erickcafuego, sorry, so I will try each and hope one will be successful06:01
bob2archive.u.c has ridiculously amounts of bandwidth06:01
bob2like, more than jesus would06:01
bob2and there are mirrors06:01
naliothdavidmccabe: something like that, yes06:01
jgrieves_heh06:01
GameGodhahahahah06:01
bob2davidmccabe: doubt antyhing big will change06:01
naliothdavidmccabe: they are polishing up the pkgs as we speak06:02
scribbleshow do I find out what my screen resolution is set at after a default install06:02
bob2there's basically no time left to test anything new06:02
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TylerDurdenhow cna i make a certain extention trigger a file opening? lets say i want an .exe file to open point2play06:02
pudlandneed help with port forwarding please06:02
GameGodwhat are the biggest improvements everyone is looking forwards to (or already enjoying) in Breezy?06:02
TylerDurdenbut do that everytime, so i dont have to do open with program everytime i want to open the file06:02
davidmccabeRight. But what I'm saying is, everything that's going to be tested has been tested, right? Or are things more last-minute than I suppose?06:02
naliothpudland: visit portforward.com06:02
mark__Hey guys is there a linux equivelent to disk defragmentation06:03
jgrieves_davidmccabe: last minute bugs06:03
jgrieves_i konw there is a list somewhere06:03
naliothdavidmccabe: everything is there that is goin to be. final polish is happening now06:03
jgrieves_in the wiki06:03
bob2mark__: not really06:03
naliothmark__: linux doesnt fragment06:03
jgrieves_i.e. System > about ubuntu broken06:03
jgrieves_i am sure will be fixed06:03
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scribbleshow do I find out my screen resolution06:03
davidmccabenalioth: and significant polish is going to happen between now and then?06:03
TylerDurdenbob2 do u know?06:03
AaronTability to change the usplash picture06:03
davidmccabe(tell me if I'm being a pest)06:03
jgrieves_scribbles: System > Prefrecens Resolution06:03
mark__nalioth, so I dont ever have to worry about using software for disk maintenece06:03
mark__?06:03
naliothmark__: not for fragmentation, no06:03
jgrieves_Screen Resolution06:03
bob2TylerDurden: your question is too vague06:03
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bob2TylerDurden: you mean in gnome?06:04
scribblesthx jgrieves06:04
erickmark_ I dont think theres no such defragmentation in linux file system06:04
mark__nalioth, than for what?06:04
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pudlandnalioth: my model isnt on there, can i elaborate on the problem?06:04
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TylerDurdenyes in gnome06:04
naliothpudland: ask the channel your ??06:04
davidmccabewell, thanks y'all for the pointers. I think I'll just wait.06:04
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jgrieves_erick, that's one of the beest features of linux, no defragmentation :)06:04
TylerDurdeni want .exe files to always open with a certain program (point2play in this case ) but i dont have to always right click it and choose the file every single time06:04
don-oim getting chilled it so breezy in here.06:04
jgrieves_davidmccabe: good luck06:05
erickjgrieves I agree06:05
TylerDurdenis there a way to assign a program to certain extentions? like gedit opens .txt files06:05
naliothmark__: there are other problems you might have with a linux file system and there are tools to address them06:05
pudlandim trying to set up gnump3d, LAN can see it, WAN says connection refused.06:05
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AaronTMetaballs is the best screensaver :)06:05
jgrieves_davidmccabe: it will come soon, and just think the cost is always 0.00 :)06:05
kevogodI would say it's misleading to say there is NO fragmentation06:05
pudlandsee it with my IP, my host name etc..06:05
naliothTylerDurden: right click on the thing and fix it06:05
erickGUYS brb, lunch time here in PH06:06
TylerDurdenno u dont understand06:06
jgrieves_man speaking of screensavers the ubuntu-dev mailing list had a butt load of discussion fo screensavers06:06
mark__nalioth, is there anything you can elaborate on?06:06
TylerDurdenthats exactly the problem, i dont want to always have to do that06:06
TylerDurdeni want it so that everytime i open a .exe file it opens with point2play06:06
jgrieves_you'd think we were talking about upgrading to the new kernel or something06:06
pudland"my IP:8888".  I set port forwarding to my ip at that port.06:06
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carambolhow i get j2re install in breezy?06:06
naliothmark__: there is a program called fsck 'file system check06:07
bytefooelectric sheep is an awesome screensaver :/06:07
bob2pudland: this sounds a lot more like a problem with your router than ubuntu06:07
naliothmark__: it's there for a reason06:07
bob2carambol: apt-cache search j2re06:07
pietro_spinaTylerDurden:  right click--->properties---->openwith...06:07
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TylerDurdenyes but i have to do that everytime06:07
GameGodhmmm bug?06:07
TylerDurdenand i dont wanna have to do that, like in windows u can choose "always open this type of file with this program" option06:07
mark__nalioth, I am just trying to get an idea of maintaining a file server I am making with linux, how often would you think I need to run fsck if the server is > 1 TB of info sotred and accessed daily06:07
pietro_spinaTylerDurden:  right click--->PROPERTIES.....06:07
TylerDurdengrrrrr but that way i always have to do that.....06:08
naliothTylerDurden: check the box marked "remember this setting"06:08
pudlandwhen it says "global port" and "base port", they should be 8888 like gnump3d is set to right?06:08
TylerDurdeni dont have that?06:08
pietro_spinanot jus open with06:08
TylerDurdeni never seen it06:08
kevogodmark__, When you run into problems? :-)06:08
mark__kevogod, thanks LOL06:08
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naliothmark__: you'd need to ask someone else, i'm a workstation guy06:08
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cevizogluis there a database of supported apps in wine?06:08
TylerDurdeni dont have remember this setting?06:08
mark__Does anyone know of a way to load balance two internet connections using a linux machine06:08
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makkkcan someone help me figure our why my screen is one third overlapped to the right?06:09
pietro_spinaon the file.... right click, then select PROPERTIES06:09
TylerDurdenpietro_spina, im there, theres no option remember this setting anywhere06:09
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wthannaj2re1.4 is in multiverse repository06:09
carambolbob2 thnx06:09
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GameGodcevizoglu: http://appdb.winehq.org/06:10
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makkkdoes anyone know how to fix a screen that is wrapped around itself?06:10
naliothTylerDurden: right click on the thing, select 'properties' and do the open with06:10
TylerDurden.. sigh06:10
suave-hCan anyone help me configure my "Linksys WPC11 Ver.4"?06:10
pupilnalioth, where should I be expanding this file ?06:11
pietro_spinaTylerDurden:  if you set the file there (in the open with tab) It will be global for that user. (i believe)06:11
dodgyvilleHello06:11
GameGodcevizoglu: There's another wine app database here: http://frankscorner.org/06:11
TylerDurdenit didnt work, i tried it06:11
TylerDurdenit keeps opening it with the default file06:11
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jgrieves_suave-h http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70246&highlight=WPC1106:11
xynamaxhello I am using live CD and need help installing xmms06:11
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dodgyvilleI did apt-get install apache2, but I can't access localhost. I don't think apache2 is running either.06:12
xynamaxit says no C compiler found in $path06:12
naliothxynamax: install 'build-essential'06:12
GameGodbingo06:12
GameGodbeat me to it lol06:12
xynamaxwhares that>?06:12
xynamaxim such a n00b06:12
bob2dodgyville: then find out06:12
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pietro_spinaare you sure you are in the "PROPERTIES" dialogue box.... It's the one at the bottom of the right click menu...06:12
bob2dodgyville: /var/log/apache2/error.log06:12
GameGodxynamax: do an "apt-get install build-essential" from the console06:12
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jgrieves_suave-h: bah sorry thought that had the solution06:13
dodgyvillebob2: It's empty.06:13
pudlanddodgyville: did you check apache website docs06:13
xynamaxthnx06:13
claptopIs there a service monitoring tool that you can use to turn on and off server services. i.e Mysql and apache.06:13
pudlanddodgyville: they tell you how to start and stop server06:13
don-oif i install the breeze RC, is it just a matter of running apt-get to upgrade to the release version?06:13
jgrieves_don-o: yes06:13
jgrieves_just keep ugrading and you'll be all set06:14
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don-ojgrieves_: okay thx06:14
scribblesapt-get upgrade?06:14
njanclaptop, monitoring tool, or something fo stopping and starting services? It sounds like you've asked for two things..06:14
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suave-htrying to get Linksys WPC11 ver.4 working on laptop. Can anyone help me?06:14
claptopyour right.. guess im looking for one tool with both options06:14
BicchiI am running dual monitors and I was wondering if there is an application for linux that will allow me to send a window to another monitor by just clicking a button on the window. So if its on monitor 1 send to monitor 2 and viceversa.06:15
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bob2dodgyville: then install apache2 again06:15
jgrieves_suave-h: is it recognized in device manager?06:15
ogami1972hello all cahnnel!06:15
jgrieves_i noticed in the forums its been talked about06:15
ogami1972channel even!06:15
jgrieves_and supposedly works out of the box06:15
suave-hI don't know where device manager is in ubuntu. I did an lsmod and it seemed to show up as a pcmcia dev06:15
claptopIm looking for somthing like the one fedora has.06:15
ogami1972has anyone had problems with ebay and firefox?06:15
bob2the device manager is unlikely to ever be useful06:16
caramboli installopenoffice,but j2re is not in FF.bob206:16
bob2it's best to forget it is there06:16
carambolopenoffice.org206:16
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jgrieves_suave-h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:16
jgrieves_.4 you say?06:16
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suave-hyes06:16
xynamaxI just tried to install build essentials and got this error: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)06:16
xynamaxrunning live CD06:16
naliothxynamax: close all your apt-get or synaptic windows06:16
naliothxynamax: or use "sudo" to initiate06:17
xynamaxi dont know what any of that is06:17
jgrieves_suave-h: check out that page, and follow the links06:17
aaron_close gedit06:17
jgrieves_looks like you use ndiswrapper06:17
claptopThe one that fedora uses lets you resart the server services and see what pids are running.. dont see anything like that with Ubuntu06:17
naliothxynamax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:17
xynamaxthansk you06:17
jgrieves_suave-h: #06:17
jgrieves_The Linksys WPC11 ver 4 is a confirmed success.06:17
claptopall gui if course06:18
claptopof06:18
naliothxynamax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:18
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suave-hyeah I saw thanks alot guys. This whole wireless situation made me crossover from gentoo to ubuntu06:18
suave-hI appreciate the help06:18
jgrieves_suave-h: working?06:18
jgrieves_my dell wireless card worked on the first shot with ndiswrapper06:19
suave-hI can see that it will. I am oh-so familar with ndiswrapper so. It will in about 15 min06:19
jgrieves_gui pooped up  when it was found06:19
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jgrieves_great, let us know if it doesn't work06:19
suave-hI will :)06:19
jgrieves_make sure to change the thign from eth006:19
jgrieves_to wan006:19
jgrieves_when it gets installed06:19
jgrieves_its easy to miss :) least it was for me06:19
suave-hyeah, does ndiswrapper come with the ubuntu kernel?06:20
mark__Does anyone know of a way to load balance two internet connections using a linux machine?06:20
sebellI see that the Applications menu icon has changed in breezy, how would one change it back to the default gnome icon?06:20
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jgrieves_suave-h: no06:20
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jgrieves_apt-get install ndiswrapper06:20
jgrieves_i think06:20
suave-hI'll have to bring up eth0 then06:20
suave-hdamn06:20
jgrieves_hmm no06:20
jgrieves_one sec06:20
xynamaxretried build essentials install as sudo -s and got this error: Couldn't find package build06:21
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omer[darth] [aatim] , hello06:22
jgrieves_suave-h:Ubuntu comes with an earlier version of the ndiswrapper kernel modules that are pre-compiled. Many users find success by simply using these. To see if the precompiled modules work for you, simply install the ndiswrapper-modules and ndiswrapper-utils packages from the Synaptic Package Manager06:22
scribbleshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2956 anyone else find this amusing?06:22
jgrieves_sorry, was wrong ,i had to update mine for it to work06:22
ogami1972has anyone had trouble seeing images on ebay thru firefox?06:22
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pajamahi, can I use the infrared port in my portable to control the TV, as a remote control?06:23
suave-hso how do I go about unpacking ndiswrapper in ubuntu?06:23
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jgrieves_you can use the gui06:23
wickedpuppyscribbles, wha password and all ... nice :P06:24
jgrieves_System > Administration > Symantec06:24
jgrieves_Synaptic06:24
jgrieves_ha06:24
jgrieves_search ndiswrapper06:24
ogami1972lol06:24
jgrieves_throw in the CD06:24
suave-hok thanks alot06:24
xynamaxcan anybody help me on this? I retried build essentials installation as sudo -s and got this error: Couldn't find package build06:24
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ogami1972buid-essentials06:25
pupildo i have to sudo apt-get install cvs ?06:25
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jgrieves_pajama: u searched the repositories?06:25
xynamaxbuild-essential06:25
ogami1972"build"06:25
xynamaxs06:25
jgrieves_that is the first start, then forums, then wiki06:25
jgrieves_or i guess forums, then wiki, then repositories *Shrugs*06:25
GTroywhat GStreamer do I need to get sound?06:25
GTroysorry for the blunt question06:26
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anethemahas anyone here succesfully set up rlocate in ubuntu ?06:26
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jgrieves_wow just looked at newest leaked version of  Vista, it looks...pretty much the same06:27
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anethemaanyone ?06:27
jgrieves_i like how Windowsblinds 5 will do what they have spent like 2 years doing06:27
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TylerDurdenwhats metacity?06:27
anethemathe window manager06:28
kevogodThe description of a city.06:28
jgrieves_anethema: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate?highlight=%28rlocate%2906:28
jgrieves_?06:28
xynamaxgot build-essential installed thank you!06:28
TylerDurdenand esd, ssh agent and bonobo?06:28
anethemalookning jgrieves_06:28
mark__Does anyone know of a way to load balance two internet connections using a linux machine?06:28
anethemathats the one jgrieves_ but it doesnt compile :(06:29
anethemaits asking for some version.h in the kernel source which the kernel source doesnt have06:29
TylerDurdencan somebody answer my question please? im very curious about those06:30
anethemaesd is a sound daemon06:30
anethemassh is a secure communications tool06:30
naliothTylerDurden: esd is enlightenment sound daemon, ssh agent is your ssh client idk bonobo06:30
anethemaand no idea about bonobo06:30
anethemahehe06:30
naliothTylerDurden: metacity is your window mangler06:31
TylerDurdenthanks06:31
jgrieves_anethema: sorry nothing06:31
TylerDurdenhow can i stop certain programs from loading at startup?06:31
jgrieves_TylerDurden: System > Administration > services06:31
jgrieves_for some of them06:32
TylerDurdenand what is this bar on x chat? ----> there r two bars below all the people on the server and one of them keeps changing06:32
Trashcanrepositories down?06:32
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TylerDurdenjgrieves_ there r only about 10 there :S i have about 30 processes running right now06:32
naliothTylerDurden: i'm sorry but ubotu is down with all the info06:32
jgrieves_oh we have a bot for that, great06:33
jgrieves_innitab06:33
TylerDurdenubuto test06:33
TylerDurdenso lol, what is that bar for and how do i prevent some programs from launching?06:33
inc|freakygood morning all ;D06:33
inc|freakyhope you all slept well ;D06:33
TylerDurdensry im kinda demanding for an answer, im just sure some of u know it and im kinda impatient to know06:34
inc|freakyschooltime soon06:34
inc|freakyim using kvirc its the best imho06:34
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inc|freakymusterhauskchen fachgeschft *sing*06:36
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jgrieves_TylerDurden: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71569&highlight=startup+services06:37
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jgrieves_if you want more power you need to do manual configuration or download a  new gui06:37
jgrieves_via apt-get06:38
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pupilWhere would I find the Kernel Headers06:38
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twystedpupil did u apt get them?06:38
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carambolcan somebody give me the  download link for opera-static06:38
carambol?06:38
anethemagod damnit why isnt rlocate in apt06:38
suave-hok so I'm having a problem. I can't install the windows driver because I am not root. But as I understand it, you can run ubuntu as root.06:38
pupiltwysted, I have no idea what they are called06:38
naliothTylerDurden: uncle google is your friend06:38
anethemait is telling me that the kernel source doesnt have some version.h that i need06:38
twystedsuave-h use sudo06:38
jgrieves_suave-h sudo06:38
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seethrusuave-h: sudo06:38
anethemaso it wont compile06:38
jgrieves_lol06:38
TylerDurdennalioth, thats not why people come here06:38
twystedsuave-h ex. 'sudo command'06:38
TylerDurdengoogle is for ppl who arent lazy and who have a lot of time06:39
TylerDurdenhere i can get a straight answer06:39
twystedpupil you should be able to sudo kernel-soruce or headers06:39
naliothTylerDurden: in linux you help yourself first, then when you are at a dead end, you come here06:39
jgrieves_TylerDurden i gave you the link06:39
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jgrieves_to the post that described your situation06:39
jgrieves_you want more power06:39
TylerDurdenjgrieves+ i checked it out, i dont see anything relevent to what im looking for?06:39
TylerDurdenit talks about bum and lvm?06:39
pupiltwysted, so the command would be " sudo apt-get headers " ?06:40
naliothTylerDurden: read about bum06:40
twystedpupil sudo apt-get install kernel-headers06:40
naliothTylerDurden: people dont send you things for chuckles. thats why you come here.06:40
pupiltwysted, thank yoou06:40
naliothpupil: your question has been answered elsewhere06:40
jgrieves_TylerDurden: yeah bum is what you see06:40
jgrieves_You will either have to manually modify the symbolic links in /etc/rc?.d or install a different rc script utility. Synaptic lists a few, one of which explicitly states that it will let you edit the rcS.d links.06:41
pupilnalioth, no it hasnt,. that site does not tell me how to get the headers06:41
TylerDurdenill look bum up tomorrow06:41
TylerDurdenc ya guys06:41
jgrieves_its right there06:41
naliothpupil: #kubuntu-offtopic perhaps?06:41
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TylerDurdenit doesnt say what bum is06:41
TylerDurdenhe just says hes having trouble with bum06:41
jgrieves_BUM is the services manager06:41
jgrieves_your using06:41
naliothTylerDurden: ask uncle google about "ubuntu bum"06:41
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pupilnalioth, sorry,. I wasn't looking,. heh06:41
naliothTylerDurden: ask uncle google "ubuntu <whatever>"06:42
TylerDurdenuncle google u mean www.google.com right?06:42
anethemanalioth:hey is there a reason that the kernel source doesnt have a version.h in its inlude/linux directory? rlocate is demanding it be there to compile so it can check06:42
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naliothanethema: did you get headers, source and whats the other thing06:43
TylerDurdenahhh i searched synaptic for bum. synaptic is great06:43
anethemauhh not headers06:43
anethemabut its trying to check the kernel version06:43
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jgrieves_http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html06:43
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jgrieves_there Tyler06:43
naliothanethema: get the headers06:43
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jgrieves_documentation for BUM06:43
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TylerDurdenwell gnight06:43
jgrieves_'night06:43
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anethemaok06:44
macgeekhow much hd space does ubuntu 5.10 i386 take?06:44
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Burgundaviamacgeek, about 2 gigs06:44
macgeekok06:44
macgeekthanks06:44
jgrieves_i'm at like 4ish06:44
jgrieves_after a lot of extra06:44
jgrieves_ok06:44
pupilnalioth, what do I look for in synamptic kernel-headers ?06:45
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Burgundaviahoary was 1.8 gigs for default install06:45
naliothpupil: to match your kernel, yes06:45
anethemahe was talking to me pupil06:45
anethemabut yeah06:45
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anethemaits linux-headers-<version>06:45
pupilI fogot the command to list the kernel version06:45
naliothpupil: uname -a06:45
bob2pupil: uname -r06:45
trajanim having problems configuring my azureus client in Ubuntu 5.10rc06:46
jgrieves_oh duhu sorry anethema, its in the headers06:46
jgrieves_i just saw that yesterday06:46
trajani keep getting NAT errors on the TCP port06:46
jgrieves_when i d/loaded the headers06:46
jgrieves_bah why cant i remember things06:46
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jgrieves_dang that doesn't work06:46
pupil2.6.12-9-386 #1 Thu Oct 6 10:46:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux06:47
pupilwhat command would I use to check to see if I have the headers for that kernel?06:47
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trajanany ideas as to what may be blocking the ports ?06:48
suave-hI've tried google so now I''ma asking you all. Does anyone know the name of the linksys WPC11 ver. windows .inf file?06:49
tritiumpupil: apt-cache policy linux-headers-`uname -r`06:49
jgrieves_suave-h : linksys website?06:50
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jgrieves_are u saying you can't find them?06:50
suave-hyes and I actually downloaded the driver06:50
jgrieves_ok06:51
pupiltritium, It says Installed: (none)06:51
suave-hI tried lswlnds.inf or .sys and I get invalid driver06:51
tritiumpupil: then you don't have them06:51
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pupiltritium, I used synaptic but the version is older than mine06:51
jgrieves_suave-h can't you navigate in the folder?06:51
pupiland I already have it installed06:51
jgrieves_and see the naems?06:51
hondjeI have a dumb question. I installed lm-sensors, set it up, but all /usr/bin/sensors gives me is information on the ram I have06:51
pupiltritium, so where do I get it?06:52
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jgrieves_or am I way off06:52
suave-hyes. but I can't find any with the .inf file ext.06:52
tritiumpupil: it's in the repos06:52
hondjeI have the i2c-i801 and eeprom modules loaded...am I missing something?06:52
pupiltritium, my kernel is 2.6.12.9.2206:52
dieguitohondje: you need to load modules for your mainboard sensors probably06:52
erickhttp://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html#source_tarballs, Guys this link you can find how to install gaim-vv, I chose autopackage install, I download thw two packages with extention namae of .autopackages how can I run this06:52
jgrieves_suave-h hold06:52
XtROh hi. Does anyone know how to minimize a full screen rdesktop session?06:52
pupiltritium, know what its called/06:52
dieguitohondje: i remember there was a script that lm-sensors ran the first time you use it... but maybe that was distro-specific06:53
naliotherick: dont mess with autopackage06:53
synackuator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just fixed my wlan0 problem!!!!!!!!! a whole week of nothing but troubleshooting !!!!!!!!!!!! omfg troll yay06:53
ice_1963=p06:53
twystedlol06:53
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ericknalioth what will I chose the source?06:53
twystedXtR> you cant its a bug you have to kill it from another terminal window06:53
naliotherick: download the source and do it in the time honored fashion06:53
tritiumpupil: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`06:53
hondjedieguito: yeah, sensors-detect, I ran that one and it told me to use those two... I have an i845 chipset for my mobo...any modules I might have missed?06:53
twystedXtR> it is a known bug though and should be fixed soon06:53
XtRACk. Thanks.06:53
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erickthanks nalioth I will try the long way of installing gaim-vv06:54
jgrieves_suave-h: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Wireless-Link-sys-WPC11/x98.shtml06:54
suave-hthank you06:54
jgrieves_check out that command and his link06:54
jgrieves_let me know if that works06:54
FooFighterhey guys, i just added a 250 gig harddrive that contains 2 ntfs windows partition to my pc, i typed df -h and it only shows my 1 harddrive that i originally installed ubuntu on... do i have to mount it first or something?06:54
pupiltritium, thank you., thats a neat little trick06:55
jgrieves_suave-h: cardctl ident06:55
twystedFooFighter, yes06:55
macgeekquestion: i installed the base system of ubuntu, but i got an error while installing the remaining packages. it said i still needed the cd to boot without the remaining packages, but when i do, i can't skip to install the remaining packages, because the menu doesnt have that option06:55
tritiumpupil: :)06:55
macgeekhow06:55
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pupiltritium, ok,.. I think I have everthing,.06:55
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jgrieves_suave-h: bah sorry that's using SUSE06:56
tritiumpupil: I'm glad.  Good luck :)06:56
da_bon_bonhi all06:56
da_bon_bonubuntu breezy ROCKS!06:56
fr33mindI loose some special chars like "at" and accents after dist-upgrade (breezy) it's normal?06:56
fr33mindsomething is broken?06:56
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suave-hyeah it couldn't identify it.... :(06:56
suave-h"no product info available"06:57
jgrieves_one sec06:57
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fr33mindI have to wait for updates or there is a package that I can downgrade? (which one?)06:57
da_bon_bonhow do i remove the openoffice.org ? (1) not 206:57
kYotiKwhat are the hot-keys to switch desktops in gnome?06:57
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fr33mindI use cf keybord.06:57
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pbutterdo i have to mount a harddrive to get it to show up in df -h?06:58
pbutteri just added one, and its not showing up at all06:58
fr33mindI can't even go to console with CTRL-ATL-Fx06:58
dieguitohondje: i really dont know, but you might want to look in /lib/modules/your-kernel/kernel/path/to/sensors06:59
anethemadoh, nalioth...when i compile it now its asking for old gcc :(06:59
anethema/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found06:59
hondjeokay, thanks06:59
macgeekdoes nobody know the answer?06:59
kYotiKmacgeek, whats your q?06:59
naliothanethema: "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" and then compile your stuff (if you have gcc3.4 installed)06:59
anethemaits 3.307:00
macgeeki installed the base system of ubuntu, but i got an error while installing the remaining packages. it said i still needed the cd to boot without the remaining packages, but when i do, i can't skip to install the remaining packages, because the menu doesnt have that option. how do i skip to just install the remaining packages?07:00
anethemaseems to be what comes with ubuntu07:00
anethema3.3 and 4.007:00
anethema/usr/bin/gcc-3.307:00
anethema/usr/bin/gcc-4.007:00
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dieguitonalioth: symlink it and see what breaks :p07:00
naliothanethema: install 3.407:00
kYotiKmacgeek,  if you don't use the cd, does it load grub? or does it not do anything at all?07:01
jgrieves_suave-h you just have the exe ?07:01
jgrieves_bah i hate linksys07:01
macgeekkYotiK: nothing07:01
macgeeki didnt get that far07:01
jgrieves_why can't they just give the .inf files07:01
suave-hyeah it's on my windows comp though07:01
dieguitonalioth: heh don't do what i said, i'm just kidding07:01
anethemaoh, duh..didnt think it would be in apt07:01
suave-hcan I exec the .exe file using ndiswrapper?07:01
naliothdieguito: what are you talking about?07:01
kYotiKmacgeek:  i havent ever had that problem, i dont know what the command would be from the boot menu to continue a failed setup.. have you tried reinstalling?07:01
ericknaliot, are you a RHCE? or any certificates?07:02
naliotherick: i'm certifiable07:02
da_bon_bonshit! i have two versions of gcc installed07:02
da_bon_bonhow do i remove one ?07:02
naliothda_bon_bon: you dont have to, they peacefully coexist07:02
macgeekkYotiK: i really dont want to, this is like my 7th time trying to install and its the first time the base installation worked07:02
kYotiKda_bon_bon,  leave them07:02
da_bon_boni dont need two version07:02
jgrieves_NET8180.INF and rtl8180.sys07:02
dieguitonalioth: ah, i recommended you some lines ago to do a symlink of gcc3.3 named gcc3.4, and i just say you (just in case) that i was kidding07:02
suave-hok thanks07:03
kYotiKda_bon_bon,  you will need two diff versions when it comes to two diff source codes.. depends on what they were built to work with07:03
twystedda_bon_bon> they are fine id leave it as is you might runinto issues07:03
da_bon_bonok07:03
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ericknalioth, what do you mean im certifiable? don't need any certificates? no need for that07:03
twystedcerts are a joke erick07:03
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kYotiKmacgeek,  how come the base install just worked this time?? did you do anything different?07:03
da_bon_bonubuntu backports for breeezy are not ready yet ?07:04
jgrieves_suave if thsoe aren't it07:04
jgrieves_the documentation should show it07:04
naliothdieguito: ty07:04
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jgrieves_readme file or something07:04
da_bon_bonkYotiK, twysted, nalioth : even a new install of ubuntu has two gcc ?07:04
naliotherick: it's an american joke. certifiable means to be diagnosed as insane07:04
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suave-hyeah I got it...thnaks07:04
twystedmy install of ubuntu has the 2 versions07:04
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kYotiKda_bon_bon,  im not sure if mine came with 3.3 too or if i had to install it myself07:05
da_bon_bontwysted: new install ? from cd ?07:05
ericknalioth, k07:05
twystednew install from cd i havent really added much to it as of yet07:05
da_bon_bonhow do i remove openoffice.org 1 ?07:05
ericknalioth how many years07:05
fr33mindWhich package I have to reinstall to have the keyboard files?  like Canadian French etc.. ?07:05
ice_1963apt-get remove07:05
anethemaone last question here nalioth07:05
kYotiKnalioth, certs are a joke as to what it takes to get them, and how much you will use the information that you crammed into your mind before the exam, but in the work force, certs definately earn you a better pay check07:06
jgrieves_da_bon_bon use apt-get remove07:06
anethemain which modules directory would i put a rlocate thing07:06
anethemathe module07:06
ericktry synaptic packages mngr07:06
da_bon_bonok.07:06
da_bon_bondid it with synaptic07:06
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jgrieves_yeah just as easy :)07:06
naliothanethema: i dont understand your question07:06
da_bon_bonwooo hoo! seems ubuntu applied fc's patch for the title bar flash :)07:06
anethemauhh well07:06
anethemait compiles07:06
naliotherick: i've been using linux off and on since 199707:06
anethemanow i need to modprobe it07:06
anethema/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/(what)07:07
anethemawhere in there should i put it07:07
anethemajust wherever?07:07
anethemafs maybe07:07
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kYotiKanethema,  what are you compiling?07:07
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anethemadrivers07:07
anethemarlocate module07:07
da_bon_boncya guys07:07
da_bon_bonneed to go07:07
jgrieves_c ya07:07
da_bon_bonjgrieves_: :)07:07
pbuttercan someone post there sources.list for breezy?07:07
ericknalioth you have a long experience in linux, you are one of the GURU in here,07:07
pupiltritium, I need to apt-get sdl ,.. do you know what it is?07:07
Remmelasgood evening all, i have a keyboard question.  I have all of my keys working, except my end key, witch does nothing when pressed, can anyone help me troubleshoot it?07:08
anethemanalioth: will insmod find it if i just make a directory in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/drivers ?07:08
kYotiKwhat kind of drivers?07:08
kYotiKbecause the module should be able to be modprobed07:08
anethemayes modprobed07:08
kYotiKwhen you compile it it should have already put it in the kernel modules07:08
tritiumpupil: the library?07:08
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anethemai didnt make install because i want to use the .deb to install the actual rlocate package07:08
ice_1963ya get a new one07:08
jgrieves_pbutter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28Upgrade%29%7C%28Breezy%2907:09
kYotiKit should have a .ko file in the source code directory07:09
jgrieves_has a default list07:09
jgrieves_mine has a couple extra not supported07:09
kYotiKanethema,  what is the driver your installing? what kind of device?07:09
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anethemaits a module for rlocate07:09
pupiltritium, libsdl07:09
anethemathats it07:09
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anethemai compiled locate07:10
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anethemarlocate i should say07:10
anethemabut i just want to get the module out07:10
tritiumpupil: there are several.  please search through the output of "apt-cache search libsdl"07:10
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pupilcool07:10
kYotiKanethema,  im not sure about making the deb package07:10
kYotiKbut the .ko07:10
anethemai found a deb package07:10
kYotiKthat will be in the directory from where you compiled07:10
anethemabut the deb doesnt have the module07:10
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kYotiKu should see a .ko file07:10
anethemaso i compile07:10
anethemayes07:10
anethemawhere do i copy it07:10
anethemathats what im askin..i found the .ko :)07:11
kYotiKwell07:11
zoehello, I need to resize my ext3 partition (make it smaller) and create a fat partition with the extra space that can be shared between windows and linux.  what is the tool that I can do this with?07:11
erickcd ..07:11
bob2anethema: rlocate?07:11
pbuttercan someone pastebin a updated new breezy sources.list?07:11
anethemaahh i got it07:11
anethemanever mind07:11
pbutteri cant seem to download stuff07:11
jgrieves_pbutter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28Upgrade%29%7C%28Breezy%2907:11
jgrieves_has the default list07:11
anethemabob2: its like slocate but uses the module to keep track of stuff so it is always up to date07:12
kYotiKanethema if you can do a locate "filename"    then07:12
kYotiKyou will see where its at after u do a make install07:12
anethemai want rlocate, not slocate07:12
anethemahehe07:12
jgrieves_pbutter: d you have those?07:12
dodgyvilleI know that ubuntu can't include something like the w32codecs, but I would like to install them anyway. However, breezy gives me a GPG error on apt-get update when I add a repository like mallirat to sources.list.07:12
Remmelasanyone have any thoughts why the end key would not work on a keyboard, but all others would?07:12
jgrieves_dodgyville, look up Easy Ubuntu07:12
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kYotiKanethema,  make install,    then the filename that the module uses, use  the locate command to find it \07:12
jgrieves_in the forums07:12
jgrieves_script to install codecs07:13
jgrieves_worked for me in Breezy RC107:13
hol_can someone tell me...how i'm supposed to do anything07:13
hol_with out...GCC07:13
jgrieves_hol_ download gcc....07:13
bob2anethema: holy god07:13
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jgrieves_then you can build07:13
bob2anethema: I'd strongly recommend not throwing random kernel modules at your system07:13
dodgyvillejgrieves_: Thanks07:13
anethemawell07:13
kagenjust finished installing ubuntu07:14
hol_jgrieves_, ya, but i look at how to setup GCC and it seems...impossible07:14
anethemarlocate is the default used in gentoo, etc07:14
anethemaits not just random07:14
kagencan someone tell me how to make it so I can use a refresh rate higher than 60hz?07:14
kagenlike 75?07:14
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anethemaits a pretty popular tool07:14
jgrieves_hol_ how so?07:14
anethemai wish it used inotify though07:14
ericknalioth need help,Im on my nest step in installing gaim-vv, rigth now im installing GST-Jpeg2000 and got this error checking for   gstreamer-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-control-0.8 >= 0.8... configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !07:14
jgrieves_kagen, System > Administration Screen REsolution07:14
hol_jgrieves_, unlike most sources...with installing GCC without GCC....its alot harder07:14
jgrieves_should be there07:14
pbutteri found a really good guide for installing dc++ on ubuntu once, i cant find it again, i found this one longer guide, but it doesnt seem to be working07:14
kYotiKanethema, i guess if its random you will figure that out on your own by learning the hard way lol07:14
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pbutterthere was a guide where it took like 2 commands07:14
anethemaFATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument07:14
naliotherick: in synaptic search for gstreamer and install the -dev pkg(s)07:14
anethemadoh07:14
pbutterand dc++ worked07:14
anethemathats just from modprobing rlocate07:15
pbutteranyone ever seen anything like that before?07:15
pupiltritium, when you apt-get it installs quite nicely07:15
erickk nalioth thanks07:15
anethemawhat am i doin wrong07:15
kagenjgrives_, I already went there, it only lets me use 60hz07:15
pupiltritium, its working now07:15
zoexiihello, I need to resize my ext3 partition (make it smaller) and create a fat partition with the extra space that can be shared between windows and linux.  what is the tool that I can do this with?07:15
kYotiKnothing is ever better for ya than breaking your system on your own.. and having to fix it back.. you'll always learn that way..07:15
hol_jgrieves_, most sources you just go like "./configure;make;make install" or something07:15
anethemayeah07:15
tritiumpupil: good deal, buddy!07:15
pupiltritium, you gottal ove linux07:15
anethemaive been using linux a long time actually..fixed it time and time again, but always bounced back and forth linux to windows07:15
hol_jgrieves_, now how am i supposed to compile something....that doesn't have a compiler to compile it...07:15
anethematill ubuntu07:15
anethemanow it is all linux, all the time07:15
anethemahha07:15
naliothzoexii: gparted or qtparted07:15
anethemabut now it is saying FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument07:16
pupiltritium, I'm not even scraping the surface and I feel like there's so much depth to it07:16
anethemawhen i modprobe rlocate07:16
kYotiKpbutter, what are you talking about?    dc++ the newest gui version is called valknut07:16
jgrieves_hol_ download gcc via apt-get07:16
anethemaany idea anyone? haha07:16
zoexiihol, use apt to install gcc, no need to compile it,07:16
pupiltritium, like,. it allows you to be creative,.07:16
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tritiumpupil: there's a lot, but don't get overwhelmed.  You're doing great!07:16
anethemanalioth: ? :D07:16
hol_apt-get is...idk07:16
zoexiinalioth, will try, thanks,07:16
TiMiDodamn i can't go to sleep and it's already late07:16
needhelp123anybody know how to get totem-xine to work in mozilla based browsers?07:16
needhelp123totem at all?07:16
jgrieves_apt-get is debian :) dont like it, ur on the wrong distro :)07:16
needhelp123i hate mplayer07:17
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nathanjis there a forum member list?07:17
zoexiinalioth, is either one better than the other?07:17
kagenlol07:17
pupiltritium, like how you used uname -r to allow the correct headers to be installed07:17
hol_i didn't say i didn't like it...07:17
hol_i just said its...idk07:17
naliothzoexii: they will both work fine. one is gtk and the other is qt07:17
tritiumpupil: nifty, huh?07:17
kYotiKanethema: sounds like your doing it wrong07:17
TiMiDonalioth do you sleep?07:17
kYotiKanethema,   just do a modprobe rlocate07:17
pupiltritium, I didn't realize you could be so creative07:17
naliothTiMiDo: sleep?07:17
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tritiumpupil: you surely can07:18
TiMiDoyeah ;P07:18
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TiMiDoeverytime i come over here i always see you helping around07:18
pbutterkyotik, is there a simple way to install it?07:18
bob2anethema: you don't just download .ko's and load them07:18
pupiltritium, uh ohh,. can you help me difuse this problem07:18
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anethemai downloaded the source from the rlocate site07:18
kagenis there any other way to increase the refresh rate? 60hz hurts my eyes..07:18
anethemacompiled it07:19
tritiumpupil: please ask in the channel, and hopefully one of us can07:19
naliothpupil: tritium can help you better in the other channel07:19
anethemanow i want to load the resulting module07:19
jgrieves_g2g07:19
jgrieves_sorry guys07:19
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jgrieves_have a godo ngiht :)07:19
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hol_maybe i need to fix the sources.list07:19
needhelp123is there an alternative to mplayer-mozilla?07:19
kYotiKpbutter,   apt-get install valknut07:19
TiMiDoneedhelp123 not really,07:19
needhelp123TiMiDo, what about totem07:19
TiMiDomaybe, realplayer07:19
TiMiDowell u can open urls with totem,07:19
TiMiDoso mplayer07:19
Kamping_Kaiserwhat would be teh best install for ubuntu if its just an x client? would ubuntu-minimal do the trick?07:19
needhelp123TiMiDo, i want to play embedded media files on web pages07:20
needhelp123Kamping_Kaiser, most likely07:20
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TiMiDowell, try copying the totem, plugin to the mozilla dicrectory or something07:20
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needhelp123TiMiDo, do you know if totem-xine works well07:20
Kamping_Kaisercome to think of it, apt-cache show ubuntu-package should help.... thanks all :)07:20
logikalis ubuntu distro of the yeat?07:21
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logikalor what award did it win?07:21
anethemaso bob2/nalioth/tritium no one knows what it means when it says FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument07:21
anethema ?07:21
TiMiDologikal yes it is, really good07:21
bob2logikal: it one some award from some group07:21
needhelp123logikal, pc world liked it a lot07:21
naliothanethema: i have no idea what you are trying to do07:21
TiMiDowww.ubuntu.com and look at it logikal07:21
bob2I wouldn't take awards like that very seriously07:21
anethemanalioth: never heard of rlocate?07:21
bob2anethema: sure I do, it means the module is broken07:21
bob2anethema: I really really wouldn't bother with this07:21
naliothanethema: vaguely07:21
anethemawhy not? like07:21
rchudd81has anybody had problems with xbase-client?07:21
anethemagentoo uses it by default instead of slocate07:21
anethemaits a legitmate project like slocate07:22
TiMiDorchudd81 not really what07:22
TiMiDorchudd81 not really what's the issue?07:22
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needhelp123TiMiDo, are you familiar with playing media files embedded on web pages?07:22
anethemai cant find another good way to search my system for a file without having to updatedb every time a file gets created07:22
BrondomanAny idea why madwifi was removed from the current RC release?07:22
rchudd81when I tried to update it had some sort of dependency problem07:22
rchudd81it became a broken package07:23
hol_installing gcc-3.307:23
hol_which will due for now07:23
naliothanethema: beagled will soon take care of it, no?07:23
hol_mwuhahah07:23
TiMiDoneedhelp123 not really i just used my pc to program and fixed up bugs,07:23
anethemawell07:24
anethemabeagled only searches your home dir07:24
anethemaand stuff07:24
Brondomanmadwifi is a broken package?07:24
needhelp123nalioth, could you please help me?  i need to play embedded videos on web pages but cannot get totem-xine to work.07:24
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anethemai want it to be just like locate, but always up to date07:24
anethemawhich rlocate does perfectly07:24
rchudd81xbase-client was broken on my system07:24
anethemaand i dont get beagle much07:25
anethemalike i type .jpg into it07:25
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anethemaor *.jpg07:25
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anethemano hits07:25
anethemaand ive got tons of jpgs07:25
rchudd81then when I rebooted my x display stopped working07:25
naliothneedhelp123: i can only recommend the mozilla mplayer plugin idk anything aobut totem and webpages07:25
aztekdoes anyone have a link to a "n00bs guide configuring wpa_supplicant"07:25
TiMiDothat plugin need some fixing07:25
TiMiDoaztek yeah google07:26
FunnyLookinHataztek: we haven't even figured it out yet.07:26
FunnyLookinHatat least, for PAL 2.007:26
Brondomanso is madwifie broken or just left out of the cuurent RC release?  It really messes me up during install now....07:26
FunnyLookinHaterr, wrong channel07:26
zoexiiwhoa!07:27
zoexiiok, so the partition that I want to resize is my ubuntu partition,07:27
pbutterwhat command do i need to mount an ntfs drive so that i can acccess movies on it?07:27
zoexiiI cannot run gparted from my current install, can I?07:27
Brondomanum, sorry to bother again....madwifi?07:27
Madpilot!+ntfs07:28
erickpbutter do you have dual boot installed on your machine07:28
needhelp123Seveas, totem-xine does not work in firefox....i hate mplayer.  can you help?07:28
zoexiiis there a live cd, (knoppix maybe?) that has gparted or other partition software?07:28
vengeful_aztek the last guide i tried didnt work07:28
pbutterno, i just added a 250 gig harddrive, it has 2 partitions07:28
naliothMadpilot: ubotu is away07:28
pbutter1 is 200 1 is 50, i need the 2nd partition to get all my movies07:28
pbutterand music07:28
naliothzoexii: use the ubuntu live CD07:29
Madpilotnalioth: I just realized that... :(07:29
vengeful_so i gave in and used wep..il probably have another stab at it this week..since im off work07:29
DShepherdHow can I configure a program to run with root priviliges without starting the program from the CLI07:29
pbutterubuntu is on a whole different 80 gig drive07:29
erickpbutter try fdisk /dev/hdb07:29
HrdwrBobDShepherd: run it with gksudo07:29
zoexiiand it comes with gparted pre-installed?07:29
zoexiiright on. will try.07:29
naliothpbutter: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab07:29
DShepherdHrdwrBob: So just edit the desktop config file?07:29
HrdwrBobyeah07:29
erickpbutter, if your ntfs drive is on your 2ndary master or slave07:30
erickpbutter try this fdisk /dev/hdb then you will prompt on the fdisk windows and type p and enter you will see your 2nd harddrives partion07:31
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pbutterits on slave07:32
pbutterof primary07:32
erickthen after mkdir /mnt/drivec or /mnt/movies then mount it by this cmd mount /dev/hdb1 or 2 /mnt/movies07:33
erickpbutter try fdisk /dev/hdb and check the out put07:33
pbutteri tried fdisk, it says cannot open /hdb07:33
ericktry /hda207:33
naliothpbutter: did you use sudo?07:33
dieguitohello people, i'm "upgrading" from sarge to ubuntu breezy, i read some time ago that this involves just the apt-get dist-upgrade and some sudo settings07:33
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naliothdieguito: ymmv07:34
dieguitoshould i consider something else?07:34
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pbutterokay now im getting something07:34
naliothdieguito: upgrading from sarge to breezy should work ok07:34
pbutter1) software that runs at boot time07:34
DShepherdI have trouble burning with graveman. In truth it just gives me an error before actual burn start. What other alternatives are there?07:34
naliothDShepherd: k3b07:34
pbutteror 2) booting and partition software from other os07:34
erickwhat is the result pbutter07:35
DShepherdnalioth is that a kde app07:35
bur[n] erupgrading from sarge to breezy should work, although you'll end up doing a lot of apt-get -f install & dpkg --configure -a :)07:35
dieguitoDShepherd: k3b is really good (you dont have to install kde to use it, only some base packages)07:35
MadpilotDShepherd: it is, but unlike the native Gnome burnign tools, it actually works...07:35
DShepherddieguito: thanks, will do07:36
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naliothDShepherd: yes it is. and it is most likely the best cd/dvd burning tool we have available07:36
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dieguitoDShepherd: anyway you still have gnome toaster and xcdroast (or something like that)07:36
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anathema_ok no one can help me make this module work? please? Its a legit module..ubuntu is actually going to be making rlocate the default, but they wanna make it not be a module first (search ubuntu wiki)07:36
DShepherddieguito: will look into the gnome apps too07:37
anathema_when i modprobe it...it says FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument07:37
anathema_i just compiled this module07:37
naliothanathema_: i could help you, but i run ppc and ymmv07:37
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dieguitoanathema_: ?07:37
MadpilotDShepherd: GnomeBaker is OK, but I couldn't get it to burn audio CDs - k3b did07:37
pbuttererick i sent it pm07:37
anathema_i just dont know what to do about it saying this when i try to modprobe07:37
dieguitoMadpilot: now there is serpentine07:37
anathema_im running sudo modprobe rlocate07:37
naliothpbutter: you cannot PM . you are not identified to services07:38
Madpilotdieguito: I know about it; I'm still using Hoary here though07:38
erickpbutter, if you installed your 2nd harddrive to on primary slave it should be on /dev/hdb, is your 2ndharddrive detected on your BIOS07:38
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DShepherdMadpilot: Same problem here. I've heard about serpentine. is that any good?07:38
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dieguitoMadpilot: update dude \0>07:38
vengeful_i use it for mp3s07:38
naliothDShepherd: my serpentine segfaults every time i start it07:38
vengeful_thats all it does :-)07:38
needhelp123DShepherd, can you help me use totem-xine with epiphany?07:38
MercutioOk guys back for more help...07:38
MercutioI gave up witht the ati graphics card07:39
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BROKEN_LADDERanyone have that unlimited EVDO verizon wireless plan?  i'm curious whether they can really charge you more for using your pda as a modem to a laptop.  can't you just hide that you're doing it?07:39
Madpilotdieguito: I'll update on the official release version on Thursday... ;)07:39
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MercutioI have one my roommate says is a geforce07:39
dieguitoMercutio: hey dont give up07:39
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Mercutiohow do I install that one from the command line?07:39
pbuttererick, hold up ill check one sec07:40
erickpbutter k07:40
vengeful_erm xorg should just pick it up auto07:40
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naliothBROKEN_LADDER: they check data trhoughput. as in "how much data can the guy d/l to his pda?"07:40
dieguitoMadpilot: archive.ubuntu.com will be breezy'tted, EVERYONE is waiting til oct 1307:40
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Mercutioit doesn't gives me eror messages07:40
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MercutioI did modify my xorg while trying to configure the ati07:40
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth what does data throughput have to do with anything?07:40
twystedBROKEN_LADDER> they can tell by bandwidth usage07:41
vengeful_ahh ;-)07:41
Mercutiois there a way to reset it?07:41
BROKEN_LADDERtwysted what does bandwidth usage have to do with anything?  you could use tons of data with your pda.07:41
dieguitoMercutio: check for a xorg.conf~ file07:41
Madpilotdieguito: I'm patient... I'll even wait until the weekend after release if need be07:41
twystednot as much as you would with a laptop07:41
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dieguitoMercutio: note the "~"07:41
Mercutiook just one sec07:41
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: the point is: if they see you d/l 9gb/day they're gonna know you aint d/l it to a pda07:41
twystedBROKEN_LADDER> if your using it to check your mail no worries if your trying to download something big theyll know better07:42
twystedBROKEN_LADDER> dont they charge by mb or something anyways07:42
dieguitoMadpilot: i'm going to install it on the laptop from isos, i was shocked yesterday when my friends multimedia keys worked out of the box07:42
Brondomanhello.  Anyone know if and why madwifi (atheros driver modules) were removed from Breezy?07:42
MercutioI found it but it is the same as the regular one07:42
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twystedBrondoman> it was said it was a broken package07:42
BROKEN_LADDERtwysted unlimited plans.07:42
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twystedBROKEN_LADDER> id be careful its ment for a pda its not ment to be used for your laptop, you can essentially ruin it for everyone else07:43
Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know how to use longer sound files at the graphical greeter screen?07:43
BrondomanAhh...thanks....will it be fixed for the final relase?  Anyone with an airlink card is outta luck instaling without it....07:43
Madpilotdieguito: a friend who still runs Hoary has an MS 'multimedia' keyboard; the volume keys and the mute key all work w/ stock Hoary07:43
naliothgentlemen, lets take the EVDO to #ubuntu-offtopic please07:43
twystedBrondoman> it might be its hard to say you should be able to add it in manually anyways07:43
dieguitoMadpilot: oh god, then it was real, and it was real a lot of time ago O_O07:43
twystednalioth, sorry :)07:44
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arkaishi07:44
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pbuttererick, yes it is detected07:44
BROKEN_LADDERi probably shouldn't pay for wireless internet in san francisco anyway, since google is going to give it to us free.07:44
BROKEN_LADDER:)07:45
Brondomanhmmm....I'll see if I can find them already compiled for Breeay then....really makes it a pain though....07:45
erickpbutter, have you try fdisk /dev/hdb?07:45
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twystedBrondoman> yea but thats the great thing about linux if it doesnt come with it your can always compile it yourself easily07:45
pbutter yes, it gives me 2 options07:45
Mercutiodieguito: can I IM you for a sec?07:46
DShepherdSonny_Wertzik: Go to System -> Pref -> sound07:46
erickpbutter what options07:46
pbutter1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)07:46
pbutter2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs07:46
pbutter   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)07:46
DShepherdSonny_Wertzik: You can do your customization there07:46
dieguitoMercutio: send me a priv cause i dont have IM online07:46
anathema_anyone know how i can disable selinux ?07:47
naliothdieguito: Mercutio cant PM anyone, cuz Mercutio isnt identified to services07:47
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dieguitooh07:47
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BrondomanI know -- been using Linux for about 7 years now... I;m an IT manager as well (former systems engineer).  Anyway, I really like ubuntu (Debian used to be my favorite) and was amazed at how well it detected hardware.....until now....just trying to avoid the long route....thanks for the info!07:47
GTroyis it a good idea to use ubuntuguide to get sound to work?07:47
BROKEN_LADDERthis is great!07:47
BROKEN_LADDERHowever, San Francisco does have certain advantages over Philadelphia. Although topographically challenged, the area of coverage is much smaller, 49 versus 135 square miles, meaning it will take far fewer than the approximate 4,000 antennas needed in Philadelphia. While Philadelphia has double the population, 1.5 million to 800,000, San Francisco probably has a larger number of tech-savvy, anti-corporate citizens willing to07:47
BROKEN_LADDERpay a modest feeperhaps as little as US$15for municipal wireless. San Francisco also has fewer poor, who would receive service free. Finally, the California legislature is fairly liberal and would likely be less affected by lobbying from telcos. And how do those telcos feel about San Francisco going wireless?07:47
GTroyon breezy?07:47
dieguitoMercutio: then join #unidentified-d00ds07:47
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ericktry the 2nd option07:47
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: please dont do that here07:47
Mercutiohow do I register?07:48
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: that stuff belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic07:48
TiMiDoMercutio /nickserv register passwd email07:48
naliothMercutio: /msg nickserv help register07:48
GTroyI think broken_ladder killed my question07:48
baroslanyone knows useful Python IDE for linux?07:48
naliothGTroy: beware of ubuntuguide07:48
GTroythat's what I thought07:48
Brondomancool....found this info....might be useful to someone elase as well...07:49
Brondoman  * There are no restricted drivers or firmware (fglrx, nvidia, madwifi,07:49
Brondoman    ipw2100/ipw2200, etc.) for Linux 2.6.12 in Ubuntu yet. We apologise07:49
Brondoman    for the inconvenience. If you own hardware that requires such07:49
Brondoman    drivers or firmware, you might be best advised to wait for the next07:49
Brondoman    milestone release.07:49
GTroyhow would I search to get sound up and running?07:49
twystedBrondoman07:49
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twysted#ubuntu-offtopic07:49
dieguitobarosl: try p1da, it has anoying spaces only identation however07:49
Brondomancool, thanks again!07:49
naliothPLEASE DO NOT PASTE IN HERE. READ THE /TOPIC07:49
BrondomanSorry -- rarely use irc.....07:49
erickpbutter whats the progress07:49
Brondoman'night all...07:49
pbutterwell those are my options07:50
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pbutteri remember mounting an ntfs drive when i used debian sid a while back07:50
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pbutteri dont remember at all how i did it though, but i remember it being really easy to do07:50
naliothpbutter: did you get the URL i sent?07:50
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pbutterno07:50
pbutterwell there was one, that was way complicated07:50
naliothpbutter:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab07:50
pbutteryeah that was very complicated07:51
DShepherdbarosl: glade and python card07:51
erickpbutter, yeas for me it is easy I use the fdisk cmd to find what will I mount07:51
naliothpbutter: it's a shell script07:51
naliothpbutter: ./go07:51
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naliothhow complicated is that?07:51
Mercutiowtf I keep following the directions but it keeps saying syntax error07:51
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pbuttererick, i already know what i want to mount07:51
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pbutteri want to mount hdb07:51
mazatlHow do I get totem to play .wmv ?07:52
mazatlI typed dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb07:52
mazatlbut it still doesnt work?07:52
Tomcat_pbutter: You probably want to mount hdb<x>... right?07:52
pbutteryes07:52
Madpilotmazatl: sudo dpkg <etc...>07:52
pbutterso i can watch movies, i dont even need to make it writeable07:52
erickpbutter if you want to mount your /dev/hdb try this fdisk /dev/hdb07:52
mazatlI did07:53
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mazatlstill doesnt work?07:53
pbutteri did07:53
pbutteri told u i got 2 options07:53
pbutter1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)07:53
pbutter2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs07:53
pbutter   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)07:53
dieguitomazatl: you are missing gstreamer stuff07:53
Madpilotmazatl: close and restart Totem?07:53
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mazatlYes I did that Madpilot07:53
barosldieguito, DShepherd, thanks!07:53
mazatlwhere do I get gstreamer?07:53
Madpilot!+wmv07:53
ubotuI heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:54
Madpilotmazatl: see ubotu ^^^07:54
dieguitomazatl: there should be gstreamer plugins for that in restricted07:54
dieguito(i guess)07:54
erickjust choose the 2nd option and tell me what is the next msg07:54
pbutterjust a whole bunch of options07:54
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arkaiswhen i change hoary for breezy i was thinking, openoffice have to upgrade, but noooooooooo, it is this normal? or i have to upgrade by my self?07:55
logikalwell07:55
logikalI talked to a guy07:55
logikalabout ubuntu07:55
naliotharkais: it will update07:55
logikaland now he's downloading it and installing it.07:55
logikal:)07:55
logikallol07:55
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Madpilotlogikal: good news, but please don't use your ENTER key as punctuation!07:55
pbutterabout what i can do with the partittions07:56
pbuttercan i use fdisk to mount the partition?07:56
logikala little bit too many lines, eh?07:56
erickpbutter yes, im using fdisk to mount my partition07:56
pbutterwhat command did you use07:56
erickfdisk /dev/hdb07:57
ilba7rI killed gmplayer but as i use lsof | egrep '/dev/dsp|/dev/snd' I see it is still using the sound device how can i kill that?07:57
pbutterokay but then what07:57
pbutteru cant just type that and it works07:57
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thechrisso, put ubuntu on my parents computer07:57
pbutterthere are a ton of options for what i can do, but none of them talk about mounting a partition07:57
thechrislocks up when they read news...07:57
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thechrisany buges with firefox in 5.0407:57
pepsiwhat do i have to add to fstab so i can mount a filesystem as non-root?07:58
erickyes, after that cmd this will be the next option command )m for help): just type p tp print your partion07:58
pirrepepsi: man sudo07:58
pepsipirre, that wasnt my question07:58
pepsii want to be able to mount it myself without using sudo07:58
pepsithanks though07:59
pirrepepsi: I don't know how to do that without sudo, soryr07:59
pirres/yr/ry/07:59
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ilba7rhow can i release the sound device from a process that has been killed but is reported that is still using it07:59
pirrepepsi: you're sure it's at all possible=?07:59
pbutterokay, i hit p, it is telling me /dev/hdb207:59
pepsiyeah07:59
pbutterand all the info about it07:59
erickpepsi, I dont think it is possibel because if you want to edit fstab you should have root permission07:59
thechrishey, i'm not at my parents computer but will this work:07:59
pbutterer hdb1 and hdb207:59
dieguitopepsi: edit your fstab and add "users" to your options07:59
thechrissudo apt-get install epiphany07:59
pepsidieguito, thanks :D07:59
thechris?07:59
pbutterwhat is epiphany?08:00
pirredieguito: that means all users can mount the partition?08:00
erickpbutter what kind of system FAT 16 w95 FAT 32 or NTFS08:00
dieguitopirre: yeah08:00
pbuttersudo ntfs08:00
pirredieguito: okay.08:00
thechrispbutter: a browser that i want my parents to install becasue firefox is locking up the system08:00
pbutterer sorry08:00
pbutterntfs08:00
dieguitothere's more funky options @ man fstab08:00
thechriscan anyone tell me if that is the correct package name?08:01
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pirrethechris: apt-cache search ?08:01
dieguitothechris: epiphany-browser08:01
thechristhanks08:01
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erickis your ntfs located in /dev/hdb2? or /dev/hdb1?08:01
dieguitoepiphany is a game as far as I remember08:01
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arkaisi'm doing a install fest in the university of chihuahua, and ubuntu it's the sensation here08:01
thechrisi can't ssh into the ubuntu box, else i would have done apt-cache search08:01
naliothdieguito: it is both08:01
nalioththechris: packages.ubuntu.com08:02
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twystedthechris did you install ssh at all on there :p08:02
thechrisi did08:02
erickhey pbutter08:02
thechrisno idea what its ip is08:02
pbutteryes08:02
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Tomcat_arkais: Great. :D08:02
thechrisi need to set it up with ddclient, but alas i am miles away from the box with an unknown ip08:03
pbutterthechris, try apt-get install epiphany-browser08:03
pepsitechris, do you know the first 2 octets?08:03
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pbuttererick, yes?08:03
mzelemHello, anyone know how to make bluetooth keyboard/mouse work in kubuntu?08:03
thechrispepsi: 24.?.?.?  so no...08:04
pepsiaw08:04
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erickpbutter, try this two option first mkdir /mnt/movies then mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/movies or /dev/hdb1 /mnt/movies08:04
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pupilcan anyone find a howto of using qemu to boot a windows 98 cd ?08:04
pbutterthere isnt an actual folder i want to mount, just the whole drive so i can scan through it08:05
pepsiwith 2 known octects scanning for known open ports wouldnt be _too_ bad08:05
twystedthechris> just tell em youll go over there and fix it sometime ;P08:05
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thechristwysted: so far thats what i've done08:05
thechrisi'm trying to get them to switch from winME08:05
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erickso you should mount the two wit different mount point08:05
naliothpupil: did you ask uncle google?08:05
firestormHi. How can I upgrade a single package from the version in hoary to Debian's testing package?08:06
pbutterhmm,  i just did sudo mkdir /mnt/windows, and then did a mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/windows08:06
pbutterand then a ls of /mnt/windows08:06
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pbutterand its all there08:06
pupilnalioth, I'm chatting with him now08:06
pepsifirestorm, add the debian repos to sources.list and hope the dependencies arent too far off? :)08:06
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pbutterso i think it worked, but when i try to get into it through nautilus it says permission is denied08:07
pbutteris there a root nautilus?08:07
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twystedpbutter it mounted it as root08:07
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arkaisi want install only breezy, i order 100 cd's but i dont beleave they can come before the install fest, the install fest is on october 2708:08
erickjust go to the mount point and ls and you will see the files08:08
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pbutteryeah, but now i want to play them08:08
twystedarkais if you look on the shipit site there is a email address to request u get them shipped faster08:08
firestormpepsi: okay, want to install postgresql from debian's testing because it is up to date, whereas hoary is nearly 2 years old....will this be dangerous? and what would hte debian testing repository be called?08:08
naliotharkais: email the link on the shipit page and explain yourself. they may send it special08:08
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pepsifirestorm, maybe other packages will break with the newer version?08:09
pbutterbut if i go to totem, and open up /mnt/windows none of the files are there08:09
erickuse the totem movie player and browse the file you want to play08:09
aftertafgooooood morning :)08:09
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twystedpbutter as i said its mounted as root08:09
pepsifirestorm, you could always try it though, if the dependencies dont get mucked up too much, you can remove it and install the old one again if it breaks stuff08:09
twystedyou have to read the ubuntu wiki on ntfs to have your user be able to view the files on that drive08:10
pbutterhow do i undo that, so i can access it with whatever08:10
Madpilot!+ntfs08:10
ubotumethinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.08:10
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twysted:D ubotu is back <308:10
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firestormpepsi: thanks for your advice :)08:11
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DShepherdtwysted: /dev/hda5 /mnt/winhda5 ntfs auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 008:12
DShepherdtry that08:12
pupilcan QEMU allow me to open the file and see the contents of the file? I wonder if I can use a boot disk08:12
DShepherdtwysted: just change the relevant stuff08:12
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twysteddshepherd its not me having the ntfs issue ;)08:13
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arkaisthx for your recomendations08:13
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erickGUYS brb08:13
DShepherdtwysted: ok....sorry08:14
Lickercan someone help me? I set up my web server and need to put .php files in ther /var/www/ DIR but when saving it says: Cannot save to DIR.08:14
Madpilotpbutter: if it's owned by root, you have to use 'chown' to change ownership - "man chown" for information08:14
DShepherdpbutter:  /dev/hda5 /mnt/winhda5 ntfs auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 008:14
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pepsifirestorm, i just checked the unstable repositories.. there are several postgresql packages that look like would install nicely08:14
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DShepherdpbutter: put that in your fstab and try again08:14
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dieguitoDShepherd: utf8 in that line should be a good idea08:15
DShepherdpbutter: make the relevant changes08:15
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sexcopter8000mmorning guys. i know we've had this conversation about anti-virus and firewalls not being really necessary in linux, but i was wondering, how do other operating systems other than windows and linux fare when it comes to these things?08:16
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twystedLicker> its becuase its owned by the root user08:16
LickerSo how do i Change access to make it owned by another?08:17
ericktry chown08:17
_TomBman chown08:17
MadpilotLicker: with 'chown' - man chown for more info08:17
pepsisexcopter8000m, id say its simply a matter of market-share... macos didnt have many viruses at all, save the classic WDEF viruses of old08:17
Lickeryea they dont really give a good EXP though08:17
arkaison the shipit page, says " sent to shipping company", i think i'm just have to waith now08:18
firestormWhat should this be replaced with?: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found08:18
arkais:S, it can be a problem?08:18
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A-starhi everyone08:18
DShepherdpbutter: uid and guid does the trick. man mount for more info08:18
MadpilotLicker: man chown should have a basic example...08:18
twystedfirestorm> the mirrormax mirror seems to be donw08:18
arkaisfirestorm, are you on hoary?08:18
firestormarkais: yes08:19
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sexcopter8000mpepsi, so is that to say, there would be more viruses written for macos if more people had it?08:19
firestormtwysted: any others you recommend I replace it with?08:19
sexcopter8000mor is macos "immune" like linux is regarded to be08:19
dhonncan FreeNX be a replacement to X as a client?08:19
arkaisi have the same trouble08:19
twystedfirestorm, i dont i dont use backports ;)08:19
pepsifirestorm, the breezy repos have as many postgresql pakcages as debian unstable did08:19
firestormtwysted: ok thanks :)08:19
pepsibreezy is pretty reliable at this point, id say08:19
Madpilot!tell firestorm about backports08:19
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pepsisexcopter8000m, thats my opinion08:20
ratonn2Anyone know why Totem would show wrong lengths for each of my mp3s?08:20
ratonn2Is ffmpeg not the gstreamer codec required?08:21
firestormMadpilot: thanks :)08:21
firestormpepsi: thanks I will upgrade :)08:21
thianpaDoes ubuntu supports Psybnc , Ircd ,etc ?08:21
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pepsifirestorm, yeah the last time i had trouble was a few months ago, when xorg was still being retarded08:21
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sexcopter8000mpepsi, ok cool, makes linux sound all the more appealing :)08:21
dieguitoi'm getting "the following packages couldn't be authenticated...." error, i have ubuntu-keyring iinstalled, any idea how to solve it?08:22
cafuego_thianpa: see 'apt-cache search' and the manpage for 'apt-cache'.08:22
arkaisopenoffice on breezy it's take an upgrade or another package?08:22
pepsisexcopter8000m, also, if an exploit is found, there are a bunch of people all over the world ready to fix it, instead of a single company who has to decide if its worth it to fix it08:22
cafuego_arkais: breezy uses openoffice2 by default08:23
aftertafdieguito:  a gpg signature pb?08:23
dieguitoaftertaf: i guess08:23
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dieguitoaftertaf: but how do i fix it08:24
arkaiscafuego, yea but when i upgrade to breezy doesn't work like i expect, and i have openoffice 1.1.408:24
DShepherdis there an opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?08:24
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sexcopter8000mpepsi: right, but who are these people? are they proper employees who are paid to do this kind of work, or just keen hobbyists?08:24
cafuego_arkais: Yes, if you want to use ooo2, you need to tell it to.08:24
pepsisexcopter8000m, both08:25
aftertafdieguito:  i just ignore on mine.... may not be good advice but it works still....08:25
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ormandjsexcopter8000m, you should read some stuff @ linux.com about linux itself, it might clear up some things :)08:25
sexcopter8000mpepsi: ok, and the thing i just don't get is, if people are professionally employed in the development and maitenance of linux as a whole, where does the money come from, if linux is free?08:25
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sexcopter8000mheh, ormandj, sounds like a plan08:26
ormandjsexcopter8000m, i employ about 10 programmers to work on linux for my needs08:26
pepsisexcopter8000m, from companies that want to utilize software already out there and jsut want to expand on it... support linux servers, etc08:26
ormandjthe money comes from my business, i just need improvements in various things, so i employ people to do it08:26
DShepherdis there an opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?08:26
TokenBadok...ubuntu comes with electricsheep..but its older version...I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall electricsheep to install never version and I also tried apt-get upgrade to install newer version..but neither would work..anyone know a way to get the newer version of electricsheep installed?08:26
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thechrisDShepherd: you mean linke "mount"08:26
bur[n] erDShepherd: wtf is daemon tools?08:26
ormandjrofl08:26
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ormandjhe wants to mount iso image files08:27
bur[n] eraww08:27
bur[n] erhehe08:27
ratonn2Anyone know what repository I need for gstreamer0.8-mad?08:27
ormandjas virtual cd-roms08:27
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bur[n] er!tell ratonn2 about restricted08:27
DShepherdis there an GUI opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?08:27
ratonn2I've added binary universe and multiverse08:27
ormandjratonn: packages.ubuntu.com i think?08:27
ormandjor .org08:27
thechrisDShepherd: mount -o loop -t isofs filename mountpoint08:27
bur[n] erratonn2: that's it08:27
thechrisi thnk08:27
pepsiratonn2, universe08:27
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sexcopter8000mok, changing the subject from that, i'm dead keen for when breezy comes out, and plan to just wipe and install afresh, is there a page out there with common things one might want to backup?08:28
sexcopter8000m(i'm not lazy, honest)08:28
ratonn2i gives me dependancy errors thugh08:28
bur[n] ersexcopter8000m: just back up ~/ and /etc08:28
ratonn2Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable08:28
ormandjany LDAP gurus wanna waste some time talking with me? i'll sacrafice a virgin for you or something08:28
DShepherdsexcopter8000m: your home directory is a good start08:28
pepsisexcopter8000m, you dont need to wipe it clean, and breezy is damn stable right now in my experience08:28
zenroxok wots wrong with xmms08:28
zenroxit wont start08:28
bur[n] erpepsi: how do you find breezy's X to be with regards to GL stuff?08:28
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=== bur[n] er can't get glxgears to even report fps
zenroxit starts then just dies off08:29
ratonn2Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable08:29
R0bNychello, i have ubuntu installed on my other partition i just chrooted into ubuntu and there are some errors after i tried to update/upgrade/dist-upgrade , so after i chrooted i also tried to reinstall grub but couldnt, so im guessin theres something wrong out of no where , im gonna install the latest ubuntu but i dont want to lose none of my information or all the gnome themes/icons i already have setup there took me a few hours what can08:29
R0bNyc i do08:29
pepsibur[n] er, no clue.. i never do 3d, but i can run glxgears at least08:29
ormandjbur[n] er, you need that -iackknowledgeblahblah thing08:29
pepsibur[n] er, have you tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg?08:29
ormandjlook up the flag in the manpage08:29
bur[n] erormandj: ?08:29
sexcopter8000mok, but the main reason i want breezy is 'cos sound is a bit screwed in hoary for me, and if i do a dist-upgrade, will it look at my hardware anew properly, or just "preserve" the previous config?08:29
ormandjbur[n] er, ok, i'll look it up for you, one moment08:30
bur[n] erman glxgears doesn't work... nor does glxgears --help ;)08:30
bur[n] eror i would08:30
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ormandjgoogle is your friend. brb08:30
pupilhow do i unzip a .zip file?08:30
sexcopter8000mand i will back up ~/, though i keep most of "my docs" on a fat32 partition08:30
bur[n] erin any event... it's not really glxgears I'm worried about... ever since I upgraded to breezy, I can't play warcraft 3 through cedega ;)08:30
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bur[n] erit's unplayably slow08:30
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bur[n] erheck, I can't even move the mouse08:30
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dhonnrightclick the zip file and click extract, pupil08:31
ormandjbur[n] er, http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/100-glxgears-in-breezy-shows-no-fps.html08:31
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pepsisexcopter8000m, im not sure how random config files and such get cleaned upm, but yuou could always remove everything but the bare essentials and then install ubuntu-desktop to get everything again, heh08:31
bur[n] erormandj: thank you mucho08:31
ormandjbur[n] er, np, i had the same issue. about a week ago :) google is really your friend :P08:31
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pupilhow do I write a .img file to the floppy drive,. ?08:32
TokenBadok...ubuntu comes with electricsheep..but its older version...I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall electricsheep to install never version and I also tried apt-get upgrade to install newer version..but neither would work..anyone know a way to get the newer version of electricsheep installed?08:32
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ormandjpupil, dd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrivedevice08:32
ormandjmight need a bs= in there08:32
pupilthanks08:32
twystedTokenBad> if the older version is on the repository thats all your going to get08:32
pupilbs stands for ?08:32
sexcopter8000mpepsi: ok, but since as i say i have most of my stuff on another partition, i think a reformat is the way forward :)08:32
bjvpupil: yeah, do 1024 bs08:32
bur[n] erormandj: totally works :)  thanks... 300 fps isn't so great, but it's better than what I figured it was... looks like cedega is my next part of troubleshooting08:33
bjviirc08:33
twystedTokenBad> you might want to try sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade to see if it updates08:33
pepsisexcopter8000m, yeah.. ive done it both ways myself08:33
sexcopter8000mpepsi, just thinking of firefox favourites, thunderbird emails etc08:33
TokenBadtwysted, it tries to install the newer version08:33
pepsisexcopter8000m, thats all in your home dir08:33
TokenBadbut it gets an error08:33
bjvpupil: blocks of bits or something.08:33
ormandjbur[n] er, you need to fix that first. 300fps won't be playable in any 3d game08:33
sexcopter8000moh right08:33
ormandjbur[n] er, you sure you have DRI working?08:33
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pepsisexcopter8000m, ~/.mozilla08:33
twystedand that error is?!08:33
sexcopter8000mof course... that was quite dumb of me08:34
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sexcopter8000mshould i backup my apt sources or are the mirrors rather different for breezy?08:34
sexcopter8000mby mirrors i mean repos08:34
bur[n] erormandj: what's that command again?  I thought it was xdriinfo08:34
pupildd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrivedevice08:34
pepsiim sorry? backup sources.list?08:34
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dhonni just reinstall ubuntu without formating my /home partition08:34
sexcopter8000mpepsi: yeah08:34
R0bNyccan anyone check out my problem http://pastebin.com/38880608:35
pepsisexcopter8000m, there are different repos since its a different release08:35
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pepsiyou just replae "hoary" with "breezy" to upgrade08:35
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ratonn2is ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main listed in the wiki for codecs trustworthy?08:35
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mushtaqgjhg'08:36
pepsisexcopter8000m, so ... i dont see a point in backing up sources.list08:36
sexcopter8000mpepsi: and for backports?08:36
pepsino clue08:36
pepsinever used that08:36
sexcopter8000mpepsi: heh, ok08:36
sexcopter8000mwell, i have to get going for uni now, thanks for your help pepsi =)08:37
sexcopter8000mciao for now08:37
pepsihave fun08:37
mushtaqi want to install ubuntu on 32mb pentium processor ? IBM box is it possible08:37
ormandjbur[n] er, type: glxinfo |head -n508:37
ormandjpaste output to me in pmsg08:37
bur[n] erdirect rendering: Yes08:37
bur[n] erer... sorry ;)08:37
mushtaqany one from indonesia ?08:37
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setitehow do i remove ubuntu08:38
ormandjpaste the whole set of output in pmsg08:38
bur[n] erok08:38
ormandjsetite, install something else08:38
setitei want to remove the linux partition safely08:38
setitebut i need to find a way to repair my mbr08:38
ormandjoh, you installed alongside windows?08:38
ormandjew :P08:38
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setiteyea its dual08:38
bjvmushtaq: how do you plan on installing?08:38
bjvfrom CD?08:38
logikalI run a dual too08:38
logikalHaven't booted into windows since I install ubuntu :)08:39
setitewell i need to remove ubuntu08:39
logikallol08:39
logikalwhy08:39
setitei wanna test vista build 523108:39
logikalsetite08:39
thechrissetite: do you have WinNT (2k/xp) or 9x?08:39
bjvlol @ removing an operating system. :P08:39
logikalyou can edit the MBR in windows08:39
setitexp08:39
logikalyou have windows XP?08:39
setitehow do i restore the mbr from windows08:40
logikalrun msconfig08:40
logikalrun msconfig, go to boot08:40
thechrissetite: you can use the fixmbr command in the windows recovery console08:40
logikalrequires some basic knowledge of editing08:40
logikalOne you remove grub, you should be alright.08:40
logikalIT should repair the MBR.08:40
setitei cant get into the windows recovery console08:40
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setitemy windows xp instlal doenst have that08:40
logikalcan you get into windows?08:40
setiteim in it now08:40
DShepherdsetite: pip in the winxp and go to Repair 'R' and type FixMBR after you remove ubuntu08:40
thechrissetite: then run the command08:40
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logikalstart -> run -> msconfig08:41
DShepherdpop*08:41
_rb_hey in the printer list when running an add printer wizard, there are no printers. how do i populate it ?08:41
setiteim in the msconfig08:41
ratonn2mmmm08:41
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logikalgo to the "boot" tab08:41
ratonn2breezy US backports if 404ing08:41
ratonn2:|08:41
setiteim in it08:41
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logikalwhat do you see?08:41
NapoleonDynamiteerl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").08:41
NapoleonDynamitelocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory08:41
NapoleonDynamitelocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory08:41
NapoleonDynamitelocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory08:41
NapoleonDynamiteSetting up login (4.0.3-37ubuntu6) ...08:41
NapoleonDynamite/var/lib/dpkg/info/login.postinst: line 15: /dev/null: Permission denied08:41
NapoleonDynamitedpkg: error processing login (--configure):08:41
NapoleonDynamite subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 108:41
NapoleonDynamiteErrors were encountered while processing:08:41
logikala whole bunch of shiet you dont understand?08:41
NapoleonDynamite login08:41
NapoleonDynamiteE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:41
logikalPASTEBIN!!1111108:41
setitewell i half unserstand08:42
setitei see bootloader08:42
setitetimeout-3008:42
_rb_try it with sudo08:42
logikalcorrect08:42
logikalwell listen08:42
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logikalremoving linux the right way will restore the MBR08:42
setitedefault=multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS08:42
logikalright08:42
setiteok08:42
logikalcorrect08:42
logikalthat's fine08:42
logikalthen just remove linux08:42
setitelast time i just deleted the partition i buggered everything08:43
setitebut that might have been because i was using lilo08:43
logikaldont just delete it08:43
setitestupid slackware08:43
logikalremove it08:43
setiteok how do i remove then08:43
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logikalubotu tell setite about uninstalling08:43
juliusany filipino here?08:43
logikalubotu tell setite about removing ubuntu08:43
logikalsdfklasjflsjf!08:43
logikal!uninstalling08:43
setite!removing ubuntu08:44
juliusformat!08:44
setite!uninstall08:44
zxsykco!bong08:44
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airtonixhey guys i finally got a laptop without a cdrom to work via a network install08:45
ratonn2mmm08:45
aftertafwell done :)08:45
airtonixbut all i got is a cli08:45
ratonn2backports if not working08:45
ratonn2404ing08:45
ratonn2:\08:45
mushtaqairtonix how you will install ?08:46
airtonixand it didn;t event ask me for a root password on setup, wtf going on08:46
mushtaqvia the network ?08:46
aftertafairtonix:  install ubuntu-desktop  metapackage with apt08:46
airtonixyah08:46
airtonixnetboot08:46
setiteis ubotu dead08:46
aftertafairtonix:  normal08:46
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aftertaf!root08:46
Tomcat_!tell airtonix about rootsudo08:46
ubotuwell, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:46
setiteubotu08:46
setite!help08:46
setitethere we go08:46
setite!removing ubuntu08:46
thechrisoh, hey, i still have issues trying to get ubuntu-desktop08:46
mushtaqairtonix do you have the howto netboot ?08:46
trekremanyone using fluxbox, i have a quick question, well, possibly quick08:46
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teamstershow do i adjust brightness in mplayer ?08:47
seethruratonn2: what are you using for backports in your sources.list?08:47
thechrisit breaks the install everytime.  is it safe not to have ubuntu-desktop?08:47
teamstersusing xv as output08:47
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airtonixmushtaq: hang on08:47
setitelogikal hey how do i do it... im getting nothing from ubotu08:47
mushtaqairtonix ok08:47
logikalwell08:47
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logikalask someone else, becuase, honestly, I don't know LOL08:47
logikalsorry08:48
logikalyou may way to ask in #kubuntu08:48
airtonixwtf root diabled, this is shit08:48
N6REJevening all08:48
mushtaqwhat are you asking setite08:48
twystedif you want to remove ubunutu just install something over it and let it format08:48
Tomcat_thechris: Without ubuntu-desktop, you're not compatible to the regular ubuntu install... upgrading might break the system.08:48
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N6REJTomcat_: is that also true of the server mode?08:48
thechrishmm.  well it always fails with python-reportlab08:49
thechriswhich is apparently not installable08:49
Tomcat_N6REJ: Nah... but people who did a server install probably know that anyway. :)08:49
N6REJTomcat_: I didn't think so but wanted to check :D08:49
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airtonixmushtaq: ok, checking url history  now...08:49
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airtonixbtw totally off-topic, but anyone noticed print.google.com?08:50
Tomcat_thechris: Maybe your CD is broken... you might want to check the MD5SUMs.08:50
N6REJTomcat_: I've perplexed as to exactly how to configure my system.  the changes to apache2 along with being totally new to the ubuntu way have me spinning08:50
DShepherdsetite: you can try booting from your windows xp cd, go to repair and type FIXMBR08:50
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setiteyea tried that... i cant get into cli with my xp cd... and i cant get teh recovery console either...08:51
bur[n] ersetite: while you're at it... try "fixboot" too08:51
aftertafairtonix:  the root thing is on purpose, to protect newcomers to linux from breaking things.......08:51
setitei have been trying the ultimate boot cd...08:51
setitebecause i dont have a floppy08:51
setiteim on a laptop08:51
aftertafairtonix:  sudo works a treat though08:51
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michanmy microphone input isn't working.  i'm using alsa drivers and it's not muted or anything.  i'm sure the mic works.  can anyone help?08:51
nickolianybody know how to solve this configure: error: *** Don't know how to handle this Qt major version08:51
bur[n] ersetite: can you install grub?08:51
setitei have it already08:51
zenroxGdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)08:51
zenrox  serial 7 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 008:51
zenrox <---how do i fix that for xmms08:51
setiteultimate boot cd has grub also08:52
bur[n] ersetite: then what's the problem? I don't see it in the backlog08:52
DShepherdfgd08:52
mushtaqsetite what is ultimate boot cd ?08:52
setitei need to get rid of the linux partition08:52
bur[n] ersetite: why?08:52
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bur[n] ersetite: use qtparted?08:52
nickolihas anybody here been able to install nvlcock 0.8b08:52
setitehttp://www.ultimatebootcd.com/08:52
airtonixmushtaq, i think i got the url08:53
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mushtaqairtonix good thanks08:53
setitewell i have a partition application... i need to find a way to fix my mbr because last time i just deleted the partition it buggered my pc08:53
mushtaqairtonix please send08:53
setitewell i had lilo at the time... under slackware...08:53
zenroxbur[n] er,  i have it installed but i like my xmms just casue it does dubble size08:53
airtonixmushtaqi had a winxp machine hosting tftpd3208:53
airtonixit put on offer a pxe image08:54
bur[n] erzenrox: mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-bak08:54
airtonixwhich i slurpped from the au.archive.ubunutu somehwere08:54
zenroxok will try that08:54
bur[n] ernever hurts to see if it's your config that f's it up08:54
airtonixbu i'll still get url08:54
michani'm using alsa drivers but my microphone doesn't work for some reason.  can anyone help?08:54
michani'm interviewing richard stallman tomorrow and i have to record it08:54
zenroxbur[n] er,  thats wot it was08:55
DShepherdsetite: what's the prob with your windows xp cd08:55
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DShepherd?08:55
airtonixmushtaq, go it08:55
bur[n] erzenrox: :)08:55
mushtaq-------08:55
airtonixmushtaq, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28netboot%2908:55
erickmichan? wow thats great, I want to see in richard stallman in person08:55
erickmichan can send me a copy of your interview08:55
michanerick: yeah, it's gonna be awesome.  i'm writing an article08:55
michanheh, alright08:55
michanbut.. i need to get my mic working08:56
XtRGah. I installled SSHD but I can't connect without keys it looks like, what changes do I have to make to sshd_config anybody?08:56
DShepherdsetite: what's the prob with your windows xp cd08:56
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zenroxmichan,  post a copy on the forums08:56
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setiteDShepherd its retarded... it doenst have a recovery console08:56
zenroxcasue i ant a copy too08:56
erickyes michan08:56
michanzenrox: alright08:56
DShepherdsetite: Didnt know XP was that bad08:56
setitei have two xp's one is a recovery disk which just copies windows to the drive.. and the other is an unattended install...08:56
setiteregular xp has it i think... i just dont have regular08:57
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airtonixmushtaq, once you have that running from the pxe rom you can connect to a repository, but i think it only uses http08:57
mushtaqairtonix thanks takecare gtg bye08:57
erickis pbutter around08:57
DShepherdcan you get your hands on any XP disk08:57
airtonixaftertaf, can you assist me with this root guff?08:57
N6REJanyone really familiar with setting up a server behind a dsl router with NAT?08:57
setitenope08:58
ratonn2what repository has libmad0 for breezy?08:58
aftertafairtonix:  you can use sudo for most things...... do you need to enable rot?08:58
aftertaf*oo08:58
aftertaf!info libmad0 breezy08:58
aftertaf!info libmad008:58
airtonixwell, maybe how to use the apt-get command to get the desktop in08:58
aftertafsudo apt-get.......08:59
ratonn2afterta:f E: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate08:59
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airtonixaftertaf, install ubuntu-desktop  metapackage with apt?08:59
ratonn2i have universe and multiverse main in sources.list08:59
aftertafyep....08:59
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aftertafratonn2:  if you put uni/multi on extras too?09:00
aftertafan idea, i did it.... dont know if it works, never got any errors yet.09:00
ratonn2afterfaf: no, i didn't09:00
airtonixsorry to be a total pain, but is this the exact syntax? sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop09:00
thechrisapt-get install ...09:00
aftertaf:)09:00
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airtonixwhat just "apt-get install"09:01
aftertafsudo apt-get install [package1]  [packageN] 09:01
N6REJno dsl routing genius's out there?09:01
airtonixcheers09:01
airtonixclarification is great09:01
aftertafsudo to do it as 'root', put in your user password when prompted09:01
thechrisairtonix: no, but there is no tab complete for what you just typed09:01
aftertafN6REJ:  nope.... :) what gives?09:01
airtonixbut i dont have a password for root09:01
airtonixah bugger it seya09:01
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ratonn2aftertaf: can you paste your extras line?09:02
aftertafuser password!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   some poeple get angry and dont rzad what is in front of them.09:02
aftertafratonn2:  :) ok.09:02
ratonn2!extras09:03
ubotuI heard extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:03
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N6REJaftertaf: I'm still new to breezy, only 5 days, and I'm still trying to get everything working 100%.  supposedly the apache is up, but I can see it because the stupid belkin wireless router drops the packets to 127.0.0.1.  Anyway, I need to configure apache for mod_dav & Mod_ssl and have it recognize my domain name as well as the local nat'd ip.09:03
N6REJI wish breezy had good documentation.09:03
bur[n] erN6REJ: it's not even out yet!  yeesh09:04
thechrisi'm just hoping its stable...09:04
Tomcat_Ubuntu has better documentation than most other distros... :)09:04
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thechrisso far i've had many issues with ubuntu09:05
N6REJbur[n] er: you care to help?09:05
bur[n] erN6REJ: care to ask a question? ;)09:05
Tomcat_But people expect it in the wrong locations... best documentation for Linux is on the web, in mailing lists, in forums, in books. :)09:05
bur[n] erN6REJ: i'd configure it all for you if you do a reverse vnc :)09:05
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N6REJbur[n] er: whats that LOL09:05
N6REJ<------ is a dinosaur09:06
aftertaflol09:06
bur[n] erit's where I run a vncviewer in listen mode and you start a vnc server that connects to me so I can move your mouse around and do stuff :)09:06
N6REJbur[n] er: oh, the server doesn't have desktop LOL09:06
bur[n] eror i could just tell you... set your PC up with a static ip... forward port 80 to that local ip09:06
Tomcat_Why do you need VNC for setting up a webserver? o_O09:06
bur[n] erTomcat_: just an easy way to get in without dealing with firewalls, etc.09:07
aftertafssh?09:07
Tomcat_Mh... not sure if that's easier than SSH... :o09:07
bur[n] erssh depends on the other side configuring port forwarding ;)09:07
bur[n] erreverse vnc depends on me configuring port forwarding :)09:07
Tomcat_You could do reverse ssh tunnelling...09:07
bur[n] erTomcat_: i dont' know how to do that ;)09:07
Tomcat_Like... he (client) opens a conn to you, tunnels the SSH port, then you connect through the tunnel. :)09:07
N6REJbur[n] er: done that.. can't see the web server locally.  So I need to make a decision.... do I get my gigafast router out that uses a different method of routing, put the server behind that and the wirless router as a access point beside it, or what.09:08
N6REJtoo many decisions.....09:08
N6REJI can ssh into the server.. that part I have working.09:08
ratonn2anyone know what deb-src is for in sources.list09:08
ratonn2?09:08
N6REJwww.cogyfarm.com09:08
bur[n] erN6REJ: can't go to http://localhost from that machine?09:08
ratonn2!deb-src09:08
thechrisratonn2: my guess -- sourcecode packages09:08
ratonn2should the deb-src lines be uncommented in the sources.list file?09:09
N6REJbur[n] er: probably if I had a desktop09:09
bur[n] erN6REJ: try with links?09:09
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bur[n] erN6REJ: in any event, i think you just need to have a properly configured apache.conf09:09
N6REJI think the real problem is this line.... Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/12809:10
N6REJI need that to be a 192 address but I don't understand the ::1/128 at the end09:10
N6REJyes I agree bur[n] er09:10
N6REJI don't understand apache2 at all09:10
bur[n] erif you port scan that machine on your local intranet... is port 80 open and listening?09:10
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N6REJbur[n] er: how would I do that in xp?09:11
N6REJor from an ssh client?09:11
thechrisN6REJ: that is for a ipv6 address09:11
bur[n] eruhh... in winxp, i use yaps  (yet another port scanner)09:11
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bur[n] ermore basic... can you open up a web browser on your local intranet and do http://192.168.x.x09:11
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bur[n] erwhere .x.x is the webserver09:12
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N6REJwow, yeah, NOW I can!! I must be on the right track.09:12
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N6REJI get a directory listing though :(09:12
bur[n] erN6REJ: i see it too :)09:12
bur[n] eryour port forwarding is working as well09:13
N6REJI tried to set it up right LOL09:13
bur[n] erjust make a fancy index.html now :)09:13
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brosioexist divx6 codec for linux ?09:13
N6REJalmost.. I gotta point apache to look at cogyfarm for normal webpages... I want to leave the apache default for intranet related stuff like webalizer and logs.09:14
bur[n] erN6REJ: if you don't knwo where to put it... look for DocumentRoot in your /etc/apache/httpd.conf09:14
N6REJthats where we're at now... /var/www09:14
ratonn2Does restricted in sources.list mean that copyrighted packages will be downloaded as well?09:14
N6REJnow I gotta setup the virtual host file and thats the part that is giving me fits.09:14
N6REJhang, on, maybe a light bulb went on.09:14
bur[n] erN6REJ: sounds like you're almost there :)09:15
N6REJ*amazing what cappuccino does09:15
bur[n] erlol09:15
Syrussyou girl09:15
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Syrusshave an espresso09:15
N6REJI used to KNOW how to do all this stuff fairly easily.09:15
teleyinexhi09:15
brosioexist divx6 codec for linux ?09:15
Syrussbrosio, divx6?09:15
teleyinexits now "secure" to upgrade from hoary to breezy?09:15
bur[n] erbrosio: w32codecs package09:15
N6REJSyruss: cappucino/coffee mix!  Ultimate BPD fix09:15
nsomniacwonder they the ubuntu dev group decided on postfix for the default MTA09:15
Syrussgtg, work :/09:16
nsomniacinstead of Exim or Qmail09:16
N6REJcause sendmail is $%#$%#?09:16
teleyinexi mean if there isnt a real risk09:16
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nsomniacSendmail = YUCKY09:16
cafuego_nsomniac: Because postfix is nice and exim4 and sendmail are not.09:17
nsomniachow is it nice ?09:17
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nsomniacnot that I'm bashing it ... I honestly don't know it09:18
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N6REJbur[n] er: what do  I change this : Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128 to so only my intranet can read  the files in that directory?09:19
N6REJbur[n] er: 192.168.2.x09:19
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N6REJwait, lets back up a step.... I want to have 2 sections in my site.... one will be for intranet stuff... records, logs, manuals, doc's etc.... the other will be for the general public viewable website.09:21
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N6REJbur[n] er: ok, let me try that.09:21
lylet09:21
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LickerI got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?09:22
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poyieabout java09:23
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poyiei already install my java update but its not functioning09:24
lylequestion:  I just installed ndiswrapper and installed the appropriate wireless driver for my system.  I'm lost on what next.09:24
vengefulwhat wireless card have u got , lyle?09:25
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bur[n] erN6REJ: vhosts is the right track09:26
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lylevengeful: BCM430609:26
N6REJbur[n] er: ok, thats what I was thinking.... so let me work on that.09:26
N6REJlyle:  what about that chipset?  I know it.09:27
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lyleBroadcom.09:27
N6REJlyle: yep, works great09:27
Prof_Frinklyle: I got it working following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto09:27
lylethanks, I'll check it out.09:28
N6REJthe f5d7001 will work also if you add the .sys file.09:28
N6REJlyle what is teh brand of your nic?09:28
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N6REJhmm... well, if he/she comes back.09:29
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N6REJlet me look this thing up... brb all09:29
N6REJand ty.09:29
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N6REJ* gone to copy default to another name*09:30
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erickGuys just want to ask how can I block a particular subjetc on my mail server let say hello I want to block it09:32
N6REJerrrmmmm... back with a quick q? .... I want one to be staff.cogyfarm.com and all the rest to default to www.cogyfarm.com... what do I put for these two lines?09:32
N6REJ192.168.2.0/192.168.2.25509:32
N6REJeeeeeh.. bad copy.. wait.09:32
N6REJNameVirtualHost cogyfarm.com09:33
ColonelKernelwhat benefit is there to using an initrd?09:33
N6REJ<VirtualHost *>09:33
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N6REJColonelKernel: any service started by initrd only starts as called... if run in standalone it is running all the time.09:33
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ColonelKernelN6REJ, crack cocaine?09:34
N6REJColonelKernel: initrd = less continous resources, but slower startup when called.09:34
signiusGood Morning Guys09:34
N6REJColonelKernel: what???09:34
ColonelKernelinitrd - initial ramdisk09:34
ColonelKernelI think youre thinking of xinted09:34
ColonelKernelor inted09:35
ColonelKernelinetd09:35
ColonelKernelugh09:35
N6REJColonelKernel: I stand corrected.. I was thinking of inted LOL.. told you I'm a dinosaur LOL09:35
ColonelKernelI cant type for feces tonight09:35
ColonelKernelN6REJ, its cool - im a dinosaur too b/c I know what you were talking about09:35
N6REJ:D09:35
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Licker I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?09:36
N6REJbur[n] er: correct me if I'm wrong, but if I have a vhost that is NameVirtualHost * and another that is staff then anything that ISN"T staff goes to * right?09:36
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N6REJLicker: I think thats mime type settings, but don't hold me to it.09:37
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Licker:/09:38
bur[n] erN6REJ: that's my understanding :)09:38
bur[n] erN6REJ: might be a good idea to test that theory a bit ;)09:38
N6REJbur[n] er: will do... trying to make sure I get everything right right now.09:39
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Lickeranyone else know whats wrong with my server09:39
Licker??09:39
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N6REJgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I hate not being able to see my own website via fqdn!!!09:41
siimohi can someone please help me get Esterel 5.21 on ubuntu? :-(  its available here but seems very old http://www-sop.inria.fr/meije/esterel/getting-esterel.html09:41
lylelooks like a restart is necessary after first installing my wireless driver.  Is that a correct assumption?09:41
Licker I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?09:42
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katewhere i can download mplayer for ubuntu?09:42
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aftertafkate:  with apt-get09:42
aftertaf!tell kate about universe09:42
airtonixaftertaf, i lost the info you gave me for getting the gui running09:42
aftertaf!tell kate about repos09:42
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aftertafairtonix:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:43
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airtonixaftertaf, yeah i tried that , it said that it cant find it or something09:43
yawgmoth7Ummmmm what is ICE Authority?09:43
siimo?09:43
airtonixso itried sudo apt-get upgrade09:43
N6REJcan anyone tell me if this gives you "hello world" ?   www.cogyfarm.com09:43
airtonixN6REJ, yep hello world conformed09:44
N6REJWAHOOOO!@!!!09:44
airtonixconfirmed09:44
yawgmoth7Because i cant login to anyhting but a command prompt and all the errors were because of something about not being able to access ./ICEauthority09:44
N6REJty!09:44
yawgmoth7Im using bitchx right now :(09:44
airtonixnot a problem comrade09:44
N6REJnow, step two... intranet.09:44
airtonixook?09:44
fekmoin09:45
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yawgmoth7Anybody know what ICEauthority is?09:45
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airtonixno jokes about banannas and ants powering a note taking machine09:45
airtonixany way09:45
woldemar!09:45
woldemarhello !09:45
mzoI understand that I need gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 playback in various apps, but I cant find it in synaptic..  anyone have a quick fix?09:45
woldemarI need a help!09:45
woldemarDoes anybody speak Russian ???09:46
nxv_how do i install css to play dvds with breezy?09:46
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aftertaftry -ru09:46
aftertaf!ru09:46
woldemarthere is no body there09:47
aftertafmzo:  enabled universe?09:47
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mzoaftertaf, is that a repository?09:47
Madpilotmzo: yes, it is09:47
mzono, I didnt09:47
Madpilot!tell mzo about repos09:47
mzolet me see if i can do that09:48
aftertafmzo:  yep.09:48
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aftertaf:) Madpilot09:48
woldemarHo can i INSTALL kde in UBUNTU 5.0409:48
Myrttisudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:49
woldemarblin09:49
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vochola09:49
vocspanish09:49
aftertaf!es09:49
airtonixaftertaf, so.... do you have any ideas why my installation didn't result in a gui being installed?09:49
woldemarbay09:49
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:49
aftertafairtonix:  did you choose servr install option?09:50
erickguys anyperson from philippines?09:50
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airtonixaftertaf, noah, Im pretty sure i started of with linux vga=771 netcfg/diasable_dhcp=true09:50
aftertaf!ph09:50
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog09:50
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aftertafairtonix:  weird......09:50
airtonixaftertaf, ja, tis lots wier09:51
airtonixaftertaf, not to worry right now, apt-get is chugging away09:51
airtonixanyone from internode here09:51
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mzoaftertaf, thanks, your info helped.  I've got it working now.09:53
aftertafcool :)09:53
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mzoaftertaf, oh one more quick question.   I added the binary packages, but should I add the source and updates as well?/09:53
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aftertafmzo:  sources, no real need.....    updates, yep.09:55
mzogotcha09:55
StarKruzrI went back to Debian because I thought its kernel support was more flexible.  Dumbass.09:55
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aftertaflol09:56
StarKruzrFORGIVE ME, MARK09:56
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brownie17does anyone know anything about ntldr?09:59
aftertafa bit brownie1710:00
airtonixsomething to do with mbr10:00
brownie17aftertaf, why isn't windows showing up in GRUB?10:00
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brownie17aftertaf, could it be because NTLDR is missing?10:00
aftertafbrownie17:  have you added it, like the example shows you in menu.lst?10:00
aftertafnope, ntldr is on the mbr10:00
brownie17aftertaf, yes i have added it.10:01
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aftertafis it the correct partition?10:01
lucaasbrownie17, have you added it outside the "debian auto-update" area?10:01
brownie17i am not sure, how about i send you my grub file and the output of sudo fdisk, and you tell me?10:01
lucaasif you are in breezy, i think only breezy is affected by that10:02
brownie17lucaas, sorry, explain please?10:02
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brownie17lucaas, i am in hoary10:02
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brownie17aftertaf, what was the command to check the fstab again?10:04
lucaasin menu.lst, there is a section called "DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST10:04
lucaas", and the entries there gets removed on kernel updates10:04
lucaasyou could do  cat /etc/fstab10:04
brownie17lucaas, it isn't a kernel problem, this happened not from a kernel update, but destroying an old partition with win9810:04
lucaasoh, i see10:05
N6REJwell, everything works, but I'm not happy about not being able to see via the fqdn what the public sees.10:05
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TokenBadare there any live cd linux versions for low end pc's?10:06
brownie17TokenBad, how low end? ubuntu is prety easy to run, you only need pentium10:07
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TokenBadits like 256 meg ddr ram10:07
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lucaasbrownie17, you could do "sudo fdisk -l" to check what partitions you have10:07
brownie17TokenBad, that should esaily run ubuntu, nbut it is not the only requirement. check on the website10:07
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brownie17lucaas, where is the grub list stored again?10:08
lucaas/boot/grub/menu.lst10:08
TokenBadcpu is 2ghz10:08
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lucaasTokenBad, the ubuntu live cd is sortof slow, but it should run good anyway10:09
daejavuneed some help with the lib files !!10:09
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daejavui copied a game Savage and it has a Linux folder with a subfolder of Lib .. there are lib files in it .. where do i paste emm in my linux system ?10:09
tgahowdy10:10
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brownie17lucaas, i am having problems. in the grub thing, it stores partition names as examples (hdb0,0) rather than hda1 like fdisk does10:10
tgaI'm having trouble getting tap-to-drag to work with my Synaptics Alps touchpad.. any idea where to look?10:10
lucaasyes, its a little confusing sometimes10:11
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brownie17lucaas, how can i find out which is which?10:11
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lucaaswell, hd0,0 is the first partition on the first harddrive = hda110:11
N6REJhmmmmm my router has a <null> for hostname of the server... I wonder why that is?10:12
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lucaasbrownie17, what partition does your windows partition have?10:12
brownie17lucaas, well windows is in my grub file fine then10:13
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nsomniacbugger10:13
nsomniac2 security issues with Ruby10:13
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lucaasbrownie17, can you pm the windows section, and i'll check if see sth worng10:14
brownie17lucaas, my windows one is hda1, and in the grub file it is hdb0,0 should i remove the b?10:14
lucaasyes10:14
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lucaastitle           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition10:14
lucaasroot            (hd0,0)10:14
lucaasmakeactive10:14
lucaaschainloader     +110:14
netmonkwhat is the link for the breezyRC?10:14
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lucaasthats how mine looks like10:14
aftertafbrownie17:  thers your pb ;)10:15
aftertafhdb10:15
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brownie17aftertaf, mines also got no "makeactive"10:15
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aftertafhd([0-3] ,10:15
lucaasi dont think thats a problem10:15
brownie17ok10:15
brownie17ill add it anyway just in case?10:15
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pupilwell boys and girls,. the OS is loading10:16
pupilSWEET,.10:16
pupilok,. I admit,. this is exciting10:17
lucaasbrownie17, hmmm, dunno, you could try with it or without it, and if it doesnt work, try the other10:17
lucaas:)10:17
brownie17allright, im going to rebot now10:17
brownie17reboot*10:17
pupilI mean, i'm installing another OS,. AND,. i'm chatting,. on the same compu ter10:17
lucaasgood luck10:17
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pupilI mean,. how cool is that.10:17
lucaaspupil, pretty kewl :>10:17
aftertafpupil:  how cool!!!!!!!!!!!    damn cool man10:17
pupilyou gotta love LINUX10:18
aftertafsoooo much:)10:18
Skidlol10:18
Skidlitearlly, I lol'd at that10:18
Skidgee, I'm sad10:18
Skid:'(10:18
aftertafkills me almost every day how good it is.10:18
aftertaf:/10:18
pupilLOL10:18
pupilQEMU is really nice10:19
aftertafLOLITUDE TO BEHAD10:19
pupilI had to innovative, and it worked out10:19
aftertafoops caps error10:19
pupilto be innovative10:19
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pupilI didnt have a proper windows 98 cd,. I had the files,. but the cd was not bootable10:19
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pupilI'll explain why I had to put windows 98 on later10:20
N6REJbur[n] er: I have a question for you please... is this correct for the /etc/hosts file if I was www. to be the external ip and adam. to be the internal ?  Adam is the machines name..... 192.168.2.4     adam.cogyfarm.com       adam10:20
N6REJ216.139.123.164 adam.cogyfarm.com       adam10:20
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brownie17lucaas, didn't work still10:21
brownie17lucaas, actually i think i might have forgotten to save10:21
lucaas:>10:21
brownie17lucaas, nope, i saved. it didn't wokr10:22
brownie17lucaas, take out the "makeactive" and try again?10:22
lucaashm.. try removing/adding makeactive10:22
lucaasyes10:22
brownie17does anyone know what the "makeactive" when adding linux partitions to grub does?10:22
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aftertafbrownie17:  paste your grub windows bit in a pm if you want ;)10:23
lylequestion:  I set up ndiswrapper according to the how-to wiki page, but iwconfig returns only three devices, all "no wireless extension," and no device named wlan0.10:23
aftertafmakeactive == bootable i think10:23
pupilSo anyway, what I had to do to get my winblows 98 to install ,. was I had to initialise the cdrom the virtual hardisk and the floppy,. downloaded a bootable from bootdisk.com10:23
N6REJlyle: what brand nic you got?10:23
pupildd'd the image to a floppy,.10:23
lyleBroadcom10:23
pupilthen,. with QEMU,. boot the floppy,.10:24
signiusIs it worth me waiting another 4days for the official breezy how different is it going to be from the RC available for download now ?10:24
N6REJlyle: thats teh brand of the nic itself? or the chipset?10:24
lyleah, sorry.  hang on...10:24
N6REJlyle: its not a belkin by any chance is it?10:24
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aftertafbrand10:25
vengefullyle...my desktop lists it as wlan but my laptop lists it as eth110:25
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N6REJmine says wlan0 :D10:25
signiusNo you need to run lspci to find out that the actual chipset is10:25
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smotti installed xlockmore... whats the command to use it then (it aint xlockmore or xlock)?10:26
signiusLinux calls almost everything eth1 and is pretty meaniless10:26
brownie17aftertaf, in my other partitions, the word boot is on the line below, should i also try that?10:26
N6REJsignius: reason i'm asking him is the wiki won't work for the f5d7001... I was given another link and I can't find it in my history files, but therer is a MINOR change that you need to make in order to get it to work.10:26
vengefulyeh weird how it calls my wireless in desktop wlan and one in my laptop eth110:27
N6REJsignius: it came from the hoary wiki.10:27
signiusI will confess i am not at all familiar with using or setting up wiki10:27
vengefulat least i thought it was anyway..not that i care..cos it works :-P10:27
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N6REJcc vengeful10:27
kemikN6REJ:  native drivers, or trying ndiswrapper ?10:28
N6REJI wish I could find that website, cause it needs to be given for broadcom devices.10:28
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N6REJyeah, you MUST use ndis, but you have to turn radio off and use both 5a.inf & 5a.sys NOT 5.inf only!10:28
N6REJthere are several steps10:28
kemikokie :|10:29
N6REJlet me try to find this file... so someone can put it right.10:29
N6REJI should've printed the dang thing out.10:29
signiusBroadcom fucking sux when it comes to anything other than windows10:29
N6REJsignius:  it was easy once I knew what to do.10:29
lylein device manager, I see a "Networking Interface," vendor unknown.  Is that what I'm looking for?10:29
lylerealtek semiconductor10:29
N6REJlyle, ok... give me a few, I have to search my internet history files... this may take a while unless anyone else knows where the ndis in hoary is.10:30
signiusI cannot understand the nievity of some hardware manufacturers not releasing specs to enable drivers to be written or at least produce binary drivers to make there products available to the largest market possible hence selling more of what they manufacture hardware10:30
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Skidits not nievity on all accounts10:31
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kemik!ndiswrapper10:31
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:31
N6REJwhere is the hoary wiki's?10:31
kemikyou mean that N6REJ ?10:31
signiusHow different is 5.10RC available for download now likely to be from the Full Release in 4 days time ?10:32
N6REJno, that one won't work.10:32
tgahow can I get my Alps touchpad to tap-to-drag?10:32
MadpilotN6REJ: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is the front page to the whole wiki, for all the versions of Ubuntu...10:32
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N6REJwell, I was given a different one, that worked once I changed the driver file10:32
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brownie17aftertaf, it didn't work10:33
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aftertafpffffffff!!!!!!!!!10:33
brownie17aftertaf, why wouldn't it even appear after i put it in the file!?10:33
aftertaf!grub10:33
ubotugrub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting10:33
lux`are italian here?10:33
signiusAlso if you need rfmon for things like kismet the ndis wrappers are useless as rfmon mode is not available in windows without expensive proprietry additional drivers10:33
Madpilot!+it10:33
ubotuitaliano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)10:33
signiusand as ndis is using the windows drivers your screwed10:33
lux`ty10:34
Skidbuy a nice cisco :P10:34
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signiusJust bouaght myself a nice Cisco Aironet 350  dual external antenna wireless NIC10:34
lux`!it10:34
ubotuitaliano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)10:34
lux`it10:35
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lux`!rox10:35
lux`!breezy10:35
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:35
signiusthough its got to be said the ancontrol and an drivers under bsd put the Linux drivers to shame10:35
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lux`lol i have breezy :)10:35
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shosheppl .. i have a big problem .. please help !10:35
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signiusThough i have yet to find out if ancontrol is available under Linux10:36
Madpilotshoshe: if you ask an actual question, you might get actual help...10:36
brownie17aftertaf, can you please read this and tell me if you think this applies to me? http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Chain_002dloading10:36
brownie17aftertaf, are you completely familiar with my problem?10:36
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shoshewell my Xwindows is not starting .. i left it working ..came back and there was an error !10:36
bbr__e10:36
signiusThe error might be of some use10:36
signiusthought i am just guessing10:37
shosheim using text based BitchX to do the chat now .10:37
signiusthought = though10:37
tgahmm.. I've added the Alps options from the readme to my Xorg.conf but I still don't have tap-to-drag or scrolling working with my Synaptics10:37
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tgashoshe, try irssi, it's nicer10:37
shoshehow can i send the output of my X so that u guyz can check it ?10:37
tgashoshe, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:37
tgashoshe, oh, nevermind me10:38
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N6REJanyone know how to do a word search through firefox history files?10:38
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shoshetga irssi is not available (throught apt-get)10:38
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Skidshoshe: apt-get install irssi-text10:38
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Skid<- uni. bbl10:39
tgashoshe, apt-cache search irssi helps10:39
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aftertafbrownie17:  looking... i am a bit familiar but i dont have my home dual boot pc here, im at work.10:39
Madpilottga: I think irssi is installed by default?10:39
tgathe Xorg log shows no Synaptics errors, just the device being initialized and everything10:39
brownie17aftertaf, ok10:39
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shosheyeah .. irsii is installed :D .. !! didnt knew that ..10:40
lyleN6REJ: any luck?10:40
shosheok .. ill just tell the problem here ..10:40
N6REJlyle: looking... *sigh*.. if you type ndiswrapper -l what does it say?10:40
aftertafbrownie17:  i know i did the chainload thing.  chainloader +110:41
shoshewhen i start the x "startx" .. it shows the first black n white screen with an X cursor and then it crashes !!10:41
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emuzestoHi, I need some help with getting the WEP for the wlan right. When I use $sudo iwconfig key hexadecimalstring, I get a serie of zeroes behind the string. When I do $sudo iwconfig key s:asciicode, two and two pairs switch place. What should I do to get it right?10:41
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lyleN6REJ: it lists three drivers, two of which I tried installing and found weren't the right ones.  One says present, the others "invalid."10:42
aftertafshoshe:  does it give you an error message?10:42
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shosheaftertaf yeah .. lemme type it here .. plz wait !10:42
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brownie17aftertaf, yeah i have that too. i am thinking that has sometthing to do with loading old OS's that aren't supported, i might try removing it?10:42
N6REJlyle: OK GREAT.. the one that says present is the right one... do this..10:42
tgashoshe, you need to look at /var/log/Xorg.log.010:42
N6REJndiswrapper -e thebaddrivername10:42
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N6REJdang, trying to remember all the steps.10:43
aftertafbrownie17:  maybe, i cant help you more than that.....10:43
brownie17aftertaf, ok10:43
aftertafill have a look at my pc tonight...10:43
LasseLbreezy freezes with the ati drivers, anyone else seeing this?10:43
AES_24_96is there something better now safer for pc backup than norton ghost?10:43
N6REJI've got to find the darn page.... I can't remember!!!!10:43
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N6REJI HATE MY OLD BRAIN!!!!10:43
LasseLtotal lockup, no screen updates, no keyboard10:44
aftertafwith partition map & all.... is you windows partition set as an active partition? you know, when you installed and were in disk part creation tool?10:44
shoshetga its a preety big file :D !!10:44
lyleN6REJ: Okay, done.10:44
aftertafi had to reset mine as active (ie can boot from it)10:44
N6REJok, now sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper10:44
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brownie17aftertaf, i was able to boot from it until i destroyed the windows98 partititon that was apparently containing some MBR info or something?] 10:45
shoshe_irssi and bitchx looks the same to me ! :D10:45
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lyleN6REJ: okay.10:46
shoshe_it says Failed to load module "glx"  !!10:46
aftertafwin 98 sux...... and its bootloader is a joke....   thtis obviously dont help you, but is true... :/10:46
N6REJthis is where I'm stuck.. hang on.10:46
brownie17enyc, you there still? i am still having trouble with my windows partition10:46
brownie17aftertaf, :) microsoft in general suck10:47
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aftertafbrownie17:  the world is their collection of betatesters... is the problem.10:47
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Syrusslol10:47
Syrusseveryone10:47
Hobbseelol10:47
Syrussplease, stop trying to dual boot with windows10:47
Hobbseewhy? it works most of the time10:48
brownie17Syruss, why is that?10:48
aftertafuse qemu10:48
Syrussbecause why do you even want windows for a start10:48
brownie17what is qemu?10:48
ormandjgoogle.com10:48
Syrussuse kqemu10:48
Syrussthat uses virtualisation10:48
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lux`qemu RoX :)10:48
Briki can't find w32codec in breezy repository....(restricted main multiverse universe)....Why?10:48
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aftertaflux`:  aparently, yeah.10:48
lux`xen more :)10:48
aftertafBrik:  because its a sick bird10:48
HobbseeSyruss: for me, because they dont have sims 2 for linux, and it doesnt run under cedega.10:48
brownie17Syruss, because my printer & scanner and gamepad don't work with linux. no drivers. they're worth about $200 all up10:48
aftertafBrik:  an ill eagle ;)10:48
brownie17Syruss, actually probably more like $30010:49
aftertaf!w32codecs10:49
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:49
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tulussurabaya10:49
shoshe_aftertaf: hey can you tell me what to do it my Xwin is not working and it gives this messagge "Failed to load module "glx"  "10:49
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aftertafshoshe:  what distro? what gfx card?10:49
Syrussbrownie17 Syruss, because my printer & scanner and gamepad don't work with linux. no drivers. they're worth about $200 all up10:50
Syrusslies.10:50
shoshe_Ubuntu ... Ati Radeon 960010:50
tulushaii10:50
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lux`omg10:50
aftertafshoshe:  breezy or hoary?10:50
Syrussyou can get pretty much anything to work under linux10:50
Syrussstop being lazy10:50
tuluskenalan dong10:50
Syruss:)10:50
brownie17Syruss, want to help me make them work then? not lies, mistakes maybe10:50
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shoshe_aftertaf: hoary !10:50
tulusmatamu10:50
aftertaf!tell tulus about ph10:50
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aftertafshoshe:  ok...., can you paste to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg/conf file ???10:51
brownie17Syruss, i really want my printer to work, will you help me? it is an epson stylus c4510:51
vengefulshoshe, is glx in your xorg.conf ?10:51
Brik!w32codecs10:51
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:51
vengefuli guess aftertaf thinks the same thing hehe10:51
shoshe_aftertaf: how do i do that ? im completely on terminal and dont know much abt it !10:51
aftertaf;) vengeful10:51
N6REJFOUND IT!!10:51
tulusaku piyeora kok jak omong10:51
N6REJlyle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568310:51
aftertafshoshe:  hmm...10:51
aftertaf!ph10:52
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog10:52
shoshe_vengeful: i think there was a section with "glx" in it .. like modules i think !10:52
aftertaftulus:  !!!!!!!!10:52
brownie17who knows anything about printers?10:52
N6REJdo everything it says.10:52
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aftertafN6REJ:  what is that link for?10:52
N6REJonly use the driver you found that it recognized instead.10:52
Hobbseebrownie17: they're the things you print from?  Your question is rather general :P10:52
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aftertafshoshe:  comment out the "glx" line and try again....10:52
tulusgaul men10:52
N6REJaftertaf: its gets teh broadcom 4306 nics going!10:53
shoshe_aftertaf: okie dokie .. lemme try !10:53
erickguys any  P2P client available for ubuntu10:53
aftertafN6REJ:  only for broadcom NICs?10:53
N6REJit will work for the belkin f5d7001 IF you use 5a instead of 510:53
Ngerick: loads, which network do you want to use? edonkey? kazaa?10:53
N6REJthats 5a.inf instead of 5.inf10:53
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N6REJand it will work first time out the gate!10:54
erickanything as long as I can download10:54
Ngerick: well I like edonkey and amule is quite a nice client, so install that and have a play I guess ;)10:54
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shoshe_aftertaf: nops .. it says " fglrx: No matching Device section for instance10:54
vengefulerick...whatcha want to download10:54
aftertaferick:  search p2p in synaptic10:54
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N6REJthank god for GOOGLE!! I had to keep drilling down one word at a time as I remembered bits and pieces.10:54
aftertafshoshe:  ok. do you have the restricted mods installed?***10:54
erickguys thank I will try10:54
Ngaftertaf: that's not actually a very helpful search, it only finds two ;)10:54
Ngamule and a DC hub daemon ;)10:54
shoshe_aftertaf: restricted mods ? whats that ?10:55
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aftertafshoshe:  type uname -a ..... what does it say?10:55
N6REJaftertaf: now, how do we get that moved to teh breezy wiki and updated for the f5d7001?10:55
shoshe_aftertaf Linux 2.6.10-5-38610:56
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leehello all10:56
shoshe_aftertaf: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 and kernel headers are also installed !10:57
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tombshi all10:58
StricklinWhat should the permissions for all the files and folders in home be?10:58
aftertafshoshe:  ok. what is your processor?10:58
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HobbseeStricklin: the user10:58
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shoshe_aftertaf: Athlon Xp 260010:58
aftertafN6REJ:  its a WIKI, you can add it if you want :)10:58
Stricklinnot owner, permissions10:58
aftertafshoshe:  ok....... You can get the linux-k7 package , optimised for your proc architecture10:58
erickNg I will try amule, becasue its on the repository of ubuntu10:58
leeI am running hoary (v5.4?  whatever's right before breezy) and yesterday I updated everything the ubuntu update manager suggested... today the machine won't boot.  it sits at 'configuring network' for a good few minutes then moves on and tries to start X three times, fails, gives me the text dialog asking if I want to view the log, and it won't let me choose yes or no, or switch to another console, or do anything.  it does the same in recovery mode (I can't ...10:59
lee... provide a root password as there isn't one and hitting return doesn't work).  any suggestions how I can get my system working again?10:59
shoshe_aftertaf: will that solve the prob ?10:59
wickedpuppyStricklin, its your home ....you set the permissions you want10:59
ericfI can repeatedly crash nautilus, don't know why, but it seems to happen when browsing a dir via a symlink. How can I make a backtrace? I should use gdb for that, right?10:59
aftertafshoshe:  it is a step towards ;)10:59
frank_bHi all. I lost sound in my Ubuntu. Checked the hardware and and tried a live CD and it's Ubuntu's fault. Any suggestions?10:59
shoshe_aftertaf: cool !  how do i do that ? :D10:59
HobbseeStricklin: only view and modify for groups, full read write for user seems to be the default here10:59
Hobbseefrank_b: what type of sound card?10:59
frank_bHobbsee, it's a "inboard" one...11:00
frank_bHobbsee, in a P$11:00
frank_bHobbsee, in a P411:00
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frank_bHobbsee, or "onboard", sorry for my english...11:00
aftertafshoshe:  ok... your PC is online right?11:01
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shoshe_aftertaf: yup .. a 20kb download speed .. alive n ready !11:01
aftertafshoshe:  you've updated your sources.list to point to the repositories and not the cd?11:01
Hobbseefrank_b: in alsamixer (in console) check if everything is unmuted11:01
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aftertafshoshe:  type this:   sudo apt-get install  linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k711:01
Q-FUNKcould anyone tell me where is the incoming queue? I'm trying to find a new package that was blogged about and supposedly has been uploaded to universe.11:02
wizardhey guys need some help, did some updates and now no sound... says i have sis snd card in system-> sound but i have sb 5.1.. whcih is on the list but when i chose it and close it goes back to sis11:02
Hobbseefrank_b: after that, mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense, then test your sound again11:02
aftertafshoshe:  and before rebooting, if you havent done so, edit grub to make it show you the menu, that way you can choose the right kernel to boot to.....11:02
frank_bah... don't know how to do that,  but I'll try to figure it out...11:02
frank_bHobbsee, ok11:02
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Hobbseefrank_b: you know how to get a terminal window open?11:03
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shoshe_aftertaf: yeah it shows the menu .. im to download abt 67mb .. and i upgraded my repositories from the ubuntuguide.org11:03
frank_bHobbsee, yes... :)11:03
frank_bHobbsee, just never used the program... seems to be "text mode"...11:03
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mattyJim trying to install totem-xine but when i do it wants to remove rhythmbox, anyone know how to fix that?11:03
wizardany ideas guys? thnx11:04
Hobbseefrank_b: ok, type alsamixer11:04
shoshe_aftertaf: but it has asked me to put the cd as well11:04
aftertafcool shoshe:  or you can just aptget linux-restricted-modules-i386..... i suggest getting that one too, so that X works ok on both kernel choices, but better having a kernel for your k7 ;)11:04
ericfcan anybody tell me how to make a backtrace of a nautilus crash? I can repeatedly crash it, and want to have some useful in formation for bugzilla.11:04
frank_bHobbsee, the card, by the way, it shows in the program, it's a: "Card: VIA 8237, Chip: Realtek ALC655 rev 0"11:04
Cueball|WorkHi all. I'm using Ubuntu with KDE installed. I would like to change all the gnome stuff to use Kaffeine as default instead of Totem. What program or file can I use/edit to achive this, Thanx.11:04
aftertafshoshe:  thats ok.... put in the cd. if packages are same version online and on CD, may as well use whats on cd.11:04
Hobbseefrank_b: then go thru and make sure that all the faders (long lines) are all up to max, and that none of them show "MM" which means mute11:04
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aftertafbrb11:04
shoshe_aftertaf: will i get any performance boost as well ?11:04
frank_bHobbsee, I have already, just trying to figure out how to work hte program11:05
aftertaf!cigarette11:05
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)11:05
shoshe_aftertaf: okie dokie !11:05
aftertafshoshe:  optimised ... o faster ;)11:05
Hobbseefrank_b: hit f1 for help, and use the keyboard11:05
frank_bHobbsee, ah.. ok. got it.11:05
shoshe_aftertaf: thanks for the time dude .. appreciate it :)11:05
mattyJim trying to install totem-xine but when i do it wants to remove rhythmbox, anyone know how to fix that?11:05
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Hobbseefrank_b: nice, and mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense?11:06
Stricklinoops11:06
Hobbseefrank_b: hit m for them11:06
LasseLCueball|Work, just rightclick the files in nautilus and select properties -> open with11:06
Hobbseethen hit q to quit, and test your sound again11:07
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StricklinIt turns out I misread the error message anyway. It actually read, "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should [sic]  be owned by user and have 644 permissions."11:08
LasseLHobbsee, careful, I got the same advice (to turn up the volume on everything) but in fact one very obscure sound channel had to be *muted* before my sound worked11:08
StricklinSo it wasn't talking about the entire /home directory, just that one file11:08
frank_bHobbsee, I'll try to know more about the program then... thanks for your help.11:09
erickNg how can i connect amule, there is no option for connect11:09
frank_bHobbsee, I'll try also different things to see what happens11:09
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HobbseeLasseL: you bet, it was the headphone jack sense and the line jack sense?  that was the problem with mine11:10
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Hobbseefrank_b: no problems, did it end up working?11:10
LasseLfrank_b, make sure you try to mute incomming channels, called stuff like "capture" or line in11:10
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LasseLHobbsee, mine was called some wierd code I didn't figure it out before I googled on the name of my chipset11:11
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Hobbseelol...that would be fun11:11
Ngerick: in the Servers tab, click the blue arrow at the top left, that gets a server list11:11
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Pshiverslo, anyone using breezy here?11:12
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HobbseePshivers: sure11:12
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frank_bHobbsee, ok. got it. I'm just trying to figure out which ones are "haedphone" and "line"...11:12
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Hobbseefrank_b: they're towards the end, just keep pressing the arrow keys...11:12
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frank_bHobbsee, ok.11:14
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wizardhey guys need some help, did some updates and now no sound... says i have sis snd card in system-> sound but i have sb 5.1.. whcih is on the list but when i chose it and close it goes back to sis11:14
erickNg tnxs,11:14
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Hobbseewizard: you're sound is definetly turned up?11:15
ericfI want to make a backtrace of nautilus, but if I start it in gdb, then it quickly quits. It looks like it hands over control to another existing thread, and I try to kill nautilus but it automatically restarts. How to make a backtrace?11:15
wizardi can get sound to work in xmms if i manually chose alsa and sb .. but some SiS sound card is in the option list too.... in ghome's sound it defaults to the SiS card.. which i do not have11:15
aftertafshoshe:  no pb :)11:15
aftertafi get help here too...11:15
hannoHi.11:16
StricklinHow do I correct this? "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File sould  be owned by user and have 644 permissions."11:16
Ngericf: if you remove nautilus from your session and kill it, it should stop restarting itself automatically11:16
Ngericf: then when you run it in gdb you should be on the main process11:16
wickedpuppyStricklin, chmod and chown ...11:16
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aftertafStricklin:  try in shell : chmod 644 .dmrc11:16
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aftertaffailing that, rename it, remove the . and try again11:17
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winnerdoes anyone know how to lock in xterm that meta key sends escape?11:17
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StricklinI see... I reversed the 644 and the .dmrc11:17
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aftertafhehe11:18
airtonixaftertaf, howdy dude, still having probs with that pesky dekstop11:18
patrickahi all11:18
winnerhey11:18
aftertafgrrrr..... airtonix11:18
aftertafwhats happening?11:18
airtonixwoops11:18
aftertafhi patricka11:18
ericfNg: thanks, that's indeed what I want. But you mean System>preferences>sessions, right? I removed it there, but it keeps restarting11:18
LasseLStricklin, I use 640 or even 600 in my home folder11:18
patrickamy ubuntu desktop is fubar... need some help!11:18
Hobbseepatricka: more info needed11:19
aftertafelaborate on fubar :)11:19
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Hobbseeaftertaf: you dont know what fubar is lol?11:19
Ngericf: hmm, did you hit Apply in that session editor?11:19
aftertafi do11:19
hannoHow do I use shared folders from other Windows boxes on the local net? I know that I can browse and copy files with Nautilus, but how do I open remote files from within applications (such as Gimp). KDE can do it (with KDE apps, though), but how do I do that in Gnome? Is there some shortcut to do "mount -t smbfs" from within Nautilus?11:19
StricklinLasseL, I'm just doin' what it tells me... :)11:19
Hobbseeaftertaf: i thought you would have to!11:19
wizardhobb: i can get sound to work in xmms if i manually chose alsa and sb .. but some SiS sound card is in the option list too.... in ghome's sound it defaults to the SiS card.. which i do not have11:19
patrickai've got 7 dialogs popping up on gnome login. they all read more or less: "Error Failed to load image *fubar* Detailds: Unrecognized image file format". Seems to mainly be .png images.11:20
Hobbseei dont use gnome or xmms, i'm not much help you you11:20
ericfNg: hmpf, I should have seen that one myself. Thank you.11:20
wizardok np thnx11:20
sweet-redliphello11:20
airtonixaftertaf, after sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i get the response : counldnt find package ubuntu-desktop11:20
aftertafairtonix:  that sux.11:21
Hobbseeairtonix: that's weird, that's definetly the name of that package11:21
aftertafhave you changed your sources.list?11:21
patricka(various desktop icons are just a red cross)11:21
wickedpuppyairtonix, i can confirm thats the exact name ... i just searched11:21
shoshe_aftertaf: ok .. its installed .. what do i do now ?11:21
Hobbseewickedpuppy: same here :P11:21
aftertafpatricka:  ahh.... gnome pbs are not my specialty.11:21
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airtonixgreat, i may have to reinstall11:22
Hobbseelol...another kubuntu user aftertaf11:22
aftertafshoshe:  ok...... reboot. and make sure you choose the k7 kernel.11:22
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aftertafHobbsee:  indeed i am.11:22
aftertaf!start a desktop war11:22
ubotufvwm is much better than xfce!11:22
HobbseeLOL11:22
patrickaaftertaf: thanks for trying11:22
frank_bHobbsee, I'm not being successfull, but it's ok. I'm going to repartition this hard drive today anyway. I was just trying to see if it was a simple problem or not. Thanks for your help.11:22
shoshe_aftertaf: do i need to make any change in the grub list ... or will it come automatically ?11:22
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vengefulno way...xfce is better11:22
aftertafeveryone has the right to choose, and i choose !=Gnome11:22
Hobbseefrank_b: no problems, check google with the name of your card11:23
shoshe_aftertaf: okie dokie .. here goes nothing !!11:23
vengefuljust thought id join in11:23
aftertafshoshe:  automagical kernel detection ;)11:23
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aftertafvengeful:  :)11:23
frank_bHobbsee, ok. thanks.11:23
frank_bbye11:23
StricklinOkay, I changed it to 644 and still got the alert when I logged in...11:23
aftertafshoshe:  good luck ;)11:23
aftertafStricklin:  are you the owner?11:23
airtonixaftertaf, Hobbsee , should i be setting something up to get gnome running?11:23
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StricklinHmmmm11:23
aftertafchown.11:23
aftertafairtonix:  yep... kubuntu-desktop ;)11:24
Hobbseeairtonix: you're aware that you're asking 2 kubuntu users?11:24
aftertaf:)11:24
HobbseeROFL @ aftertaf11:24
airtonixjack-, k or g is good11:24
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airtonixarrrr bloody tab completeion11:24
airtonixand gesticular dyslexia11:24
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airtonixi'll give kubuntu-desktop a go11:25
patricka(i've got all the dialogs open, and can send a screenshot if it helps.)11:25
aftertafheheh11:25
aftertafkubuntu +1 :)11:25
airtonixarrrrr same thing11:25
airtonixno packages11:25
aftertafairtonix:  pastebin your soreces.list11:25
aftertaferf me too11:26
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airtonixmight take me a while to find it11:26
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aftertaf/etc/apt/sources.list11:26
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aftertafno it wont ;)11:26
StricklinOkay, let's see if that fixes it11:26
airtonixaftertaf, by pastebin, i vaguely remeber someone saying asomething about a website?11:26
aftertaf!pastebin11:26
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:26
airtonixaftertaf, oh cheers the path11:26
aftertaf:D11:26
patrickaubotu: thanks11:27
ubotupatricka: bitte11:27
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airtonixnice one11:27
aftertafStrikeForce:  what is the .dmrc file actually for?11:27
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wickedpuppyDigital Management Right Config11:27
wickedpuppylol11:27
aftertaflol11:27
airtonixaftertaf, whats this about !pastebin, is it a irc command?11:27
aftertaf!bot11:27
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to aftertaf? I think not. Bot, shot, chicken... rhyming sucks.11:27
shosheaftertaf ok .. i reboot and back with the same thing :S .. X dosent start !11:28
aftertafubotu is a bot..... the ! gets him to reply to things in his KB11:28
ubotuaftertaf: Wish i knew11:28
airtonixohhhhh right11:28
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aftertafshoshe:  ok. lets get into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file then....... whats the error msg again? glx still?11:28
aftertaf!ati11:29
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:29
Hobbseelol...someone had fun creating the commands for that bot...11:29
aftertafshoshe:  ^^^^11:29
shosheaftertaf yup .. the same glx thing11:29
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rob^got a laptop with an Radeon Xpress 200M video card. I have the 3d drivers going, but can't get a resolution above 1024x768 despite editing the xorg.conf file. Any suggestions?11:29
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N6REJwhy does it keep kicking me?11:30
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StricklinNo, it still does it11:30
aftertafStricklin:  hmm... what is the .dmrc file a config file for?11:30
airtonixaftertaf, can i from the linux prompt send you the source list from there11:31
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airtonixaftertaf, for i am currently chatting from a winxp mcahine11:31
ColonelKernelcmon breezy stable11:31
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aftertafhehe11:31
airtonixaftertaf, bad yes11:31
damo214 days! i cant wait that long11:31
aftertafairtonix:  are you on breezy or hoary? i think i asked you..... :/11:31
aftertafdamo21:  dont.11:32
aftertafdo it now :)11:32
airtonixaftertaf, hoary11:32
damo21i have preview11:32
aftertafme2 damo2111:32
aftertaf:)11:32
aftertafairtonix:11:32
Stricklinaftertaf, last environment used11:32
Hobbseedamo21: just install it then11:32
aftertafoops sorry.... annoying to do that. !11:32
bob2N6REJ: you've been removed from the irc server because your IRC client is crap11:32
bob2N6REJ: stop using bitchx11:32
shosheaftertaf any suggestions then ? :D11:32
aftertaflol bob2 to the point ;)11:32
damo21how? apt-get dist-upgrade?11:32
aftertafairtonix:  hang on ill post you mine ;)11:32
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bob2damo21: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes11:33
damo21:)11:33
aftertafshoshe:  open your xorg.conf file.......11:33
shosheaftertaf opened ..11:33
StricklinGoogling tells me it should be 75511:33
erickGuys is mp3 supported by music player11:33
StricklinN6REJ, what client was he using?11:34
bob2erick: sure11:34
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aftertafshoshe:  ok.11:34
airtonixaftertaf, cheers dude, spose i just replace the contents of mine with that or do i append it?11:34
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aftertafreplace .... put yours in comments though ;)11:35
N6REJbob2: I'm not using Bitchx, I'm using chatzilla in Firefox!11:35
patrickaokay, screenshot of icon hell: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296311:35
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Hobbseepatricka: that's weird!  which version are you on?11:35
patrickathis was a bitch to create as the screenshot function is no longer working (had to use the gimp screen grab)11:35
erickbob2, how can I add plugin in my music player to support mp311:35
N6REJI wasn't even saying anything for at least the last 40 minutes11:35
patricka5.0411:35
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airtonixaftertaf, oh other thing11:36
N6REJStricklin: did I do something wrong?11:36
aftertafshoshe:  can you get PMs from your console irc?11:36
damo21what command can i run to find out version info?11:36
StricklinThey talk about my problem here, too bad I can't read German (http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/7125/Strange-Error--dmrc-fehler--geloest.html)11:36
bob2N6REJ: there you go then, it's broken11:36
bob2erick: gstreamer0.8-mad11:36
aftertafdamo21:  [command]  -v11:36
bob2erick: (install it)11:36
airtonixaftertaf, i did a sudo apt-get install gnome11:36
patrickaHobbsee: up to date packages on everything11:36
katzorhi guys, i get a configure error when trying to build edb from enlightenment cvs : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp11:36
katzorconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check11:36
damo21i mean, version of ubuntu11:36
N6REJbob2: ok, broken how?  I don't understand.... whats happening?11:36
StricklinN6REJ, I was just reading where they kicked you because of your client, and I wondered what it was11:36
shosheaftertaf umm i dont think so .. im using BX11:36
aftertafok.11:36
bob2N6REJ: the irc server thinks you're flooding it, so it booted you off11:36
airtonixand it tells me that package gnome has no installation candidate11:36
bob2katzor: install build-essential11:36
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katzor:-)11:37
aftertafairtonix:  did you do apt-get update first?11:37
N6REJbob2: what do I do? I don't know what to tell firefox people LOL11:37
airtonixyep11:37
erickbob2 thanks I will try using synaptic manager11:37
aftertafodd!11:37
melvztechiehello guys, what the command when i want to remove some packages files?11:37
airtonixmosrt verly11:37
bob2melvztechie: how did you install them?11:37
StricklinApparently, my problem is one common to Breezy users11:37
aftertafshoshe:  ok. go to the Section Module  part11:37
bob2N6REJ: just don't use it, or don't do whatever you did11:37
bob2N6REJ: the irc server thinks you flooded *something*, but it's not this channel11:38
melvztechiegot full space again my HD, got to free up some space11:38
katzorbob2, thanks, works now!11:38
aftertafshoshe:  and put a # in front of the glx line and the dri line11:38
wickedpuppymelvztechie, you can do so from synaptic ...11:38
N6REJbob2: ok, should I use MIRC?11:38
wickedpuppyN6REJ, are you using windows ?11:38
StricklinOh well, it doesn't seem to really effect anything, except to bother me11:38
N6REJyes11:38
wickedpuppyyes ... mirc would be my choice11:38
bob2N6REJ: wtf11:38
N6REJk, back in a bit... I'm really sorry guys....11:38
wickedpuppyhow to use bitchx in windows ?11:39
bob2N6REJ: it doesn't affect us at all, use whatever you want11:39
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shosheaftertaf ok... putting # infront of emm .. should i try starting X ?11:39
bob2wickedpuppy: use irssi in cygwin, or just ssh to a unix machine11:39
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N6REJI'm not wicked, I'm using chatzilla11:39
melvztechiecan i do it on command line?11:39
N6REJI'm really sorry guys, I didn't mean to mess things up.11:39
wickedpuppyheh ... i don't get it ... well nvm11:39
N6REJbe back in a bit.11:39
aftertafshoshe:  not yet.... change the driver to "vesa"...... to test X with just std drivers first.11:39
morten0609sorry I'm new to IRC, but I need help with a problem in Ubuntu concerning web browsing?11:40
wickedpuppymelvztechie, apt-get remove package11:40
bob2melvztechie: how did you install them to begin with?11:40
bob2melvztechie: then just ask11:40
Hobbseemorten0609: dont ask to ask, just ask - it's one of the best ways to use irc11:40
bob2morten0609: just ask...11:40
shosheaftertaf done !11:40
aftertafok. try startx11:40
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morten0609hehe okay, sorry - did not know if I was at the right place11:40
melvztechiethanks wickedpuppy and bob2, just worked it by apt-get clean;)11:41
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Hobbseemorten0609:  if you are, we'll tell you11:41
morten0609here goes: some web pages look all messy when I browse on my Ubuntu machine, but look fine in Windows - with the same browsers11:41
wickedpuppyclean ?? that doesn't remove any package ... that just clean the local repo11:41
bob2wickedpuppy: which can save a huge amount of space11:42
wickedpuppymorten0609, examples pls ? one site will do ... and i assume you use ff on both ?11:42
bob2wickedpuppy: my apt package cache would be in the gigabytes if I hadn't clean it11:42
morten0609okay - here's a Danish site: www.bogguiden.dk11:42
wickedpuppybob2, ah k ... whaaa ... i better go do it now11:42
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morten0609the text on the left column should be white, but it's dark blue on ubuntu11:43
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wickedpuppymessy alright ....11:43
patrickadamo21: try System | about Ubuntu11:43
wickedpuppymorten0609, on windows you are using firefox as well ?11:43
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shosheaftertaf no luck ! it says  "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":11:44
morten0609yes11:44
morten0609same problem on mozilla and epiphany11:44
shosheaftertaf No Symbols Found !!11:44
wickedpuppysame version ?11:44
morten0609using breezy11:44
morten0609yes11:44
StricklinI should go back to bed. I'm driving 200 miles later today.11:44
HobbseeStricklin: ouch11:44
morten0609same version 1.0.711:44
aftertaflibfb. framebuffer.11:44
StricklinEh, Shreveport to Dallas11:45
katzormorten0609, same problem here with breezy11:45
morten0609alright - it's not just me then11:45
StricklinI've done it so many times I could do it in my sleep. The problem is, I have. ;)11:45
wickedpuppyheh .. could you submit this bug to firefox devs ???11:45
morten0609could it be a problem with css?11:45
ThePyromaniacwow! i got my ogg vorbis files coming out at around 30megs! is this normal?11:45
Hobbseemorten0609: for some reason, that page is different for mac and windows, it doesnt mention linux11:45
ThePyromaniacim ripping from CD on quality 111:46
aftertafshoshe:  have you tried the howto on the wiki for ATI?11:46
wickedpuppyi rather think css should be same in windows or linux ??11:46
morten0609sorry - what does not mention linux?11:46
StricklinBye11:46
Hobbseethe page source11:46
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ThePyromaniacanyone ripped ogg vorbis files from CD?11:46
shosheaftertaf nops !11:47
katzorThePyromaniac, yes SoundJuicer is installed by default and works well11:47
topyliThePyromaniac: those files are way too big11:47
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ThePyromaniackatzor damn right it does, my query is this. i was ripping to ogg vorbis files with quality one for a while, and suddenly my files are 30 megs!11:47
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ThePyromaniaci was using quality = 1 and they were averaging 4-7 megs11:48
morten0609this really bugs me cuz I design web pages11:48
shosheaftertaf looks like im in for another reinstall :D !!11:48
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N6REJok, I'm back.... is this better?11:48
bob2ThePyromaniac: abcde works great for that11:48
ThePyromaniacnow suddenly 15-30!11:48
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melvztechiewickedpuppy: Yup i just need to free up some space, am allready full with packages:D11:48
aftertafshoshe:  ok. could help........ no need to reinstall :)11:48
katzorThePyromaniac, funny are you on breezy?11:48
ThePyromaniacbob2 in what way is it better than SJ? ^^11:48
aftertafshoshe:  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx11:48
ThePyromaniackatzor yes11:48
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bob2ThePyromaniac: I can run it on my desktop via ssh ;)11:48
N6REJbob2: is that better?11:48
ThePyromaniacbob2 cool ^^11:48
bob2N6REJ: you getting kicked doesn't affect anyone but you11:48
aftertafcold, but true^11:49
aftertafbut cold ;)11:49
shosheaftertaf thats already installed ... the latest one11:49
N6REJbob2: but its still not cool... it could've gotten me banned eventually right?11:49
aftertafok.11:49
morten0609the font size is also way too big and the links are supposed to be black according to css and not blue11:49
ThePyromaniacbug ahoy, if SJ freezes i gotta restart linux to open it again!11:49
katzorThePyromaniac, mhh, i ripped a cd 5 mins ago and the whole directory is just 60 megs11:49
morten0609(I did not design the site, though)11:49
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ThePyromaniackatzor i got 10 songs at 160megs! lol11:49
aftertafshoshe:  Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx"11:50
shosheaftertaf that was already done when i installed the drivers :D11:50
morten0609you guys think this is a breezy bug?11:50
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topyliThePyromaniac: killing the sj process is not enough? rebooting seems a bit over the top11:50
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syrraah, hello11:50
aftertafshoshe:  ok.11:50
bob2N6REJ: I don't know, perhaps the server would have k-lined you11:51
N6REJfor anyone thats interested I updated the ndiswrapper wiki to reflect the broadcom 4306 chipset11:51
ThePyromaniactopyli i use force quit button, i dont know a better way11:51
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chris123hi... does anybody know something about that phtml package?11:51
aftertaf!ati11:51
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:51
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shosheaftertaf didnt worked with that as well .. just tried it .. lol !11:51
katzor:-) ThePyromaniac my SoundJuicer uses quality=0.5 and the files seem to be good11:51
ThePyromaniacok, i go back to using 0.511:52
syrrathere are people in here, I'm so surprised. Lots of times these are empty. Anyway.. hello I have a question. : )11:52
N6REJbob2: ok, well hopefully its fixed now.  Whatever it was.11:52
topyliThePyromaniac: the process may still be there. take a look with "ps aux |grep juicer"11:52
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ThePyromaniacyes it is11:52
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topyliThePyromaniac: note that that command will also display your grep process :)11:53
Hobbseesyrra: ubuntu's almost never empty, were you meaning one of the other channels?11:53
Hobbseesyrra: shoot11:53
ThePyromaniactopyli it was ok, i did pkill and now it runs ^^11:53
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morten0609wickedpuppy, katzor - any ideas how I should proceed with this - should I submit it as a bug?11:53
ThePyromaniacit just needed to reset11:53
shosheaftertaf the error also says " Could not init Font path element"11:53
syrraNo, I meant irc channels that I find in general. And now... Yes, I need a mud client for Ubuntu. I'm on.. badger I think. Only one that works with this chip set. Or so I'm led to believe.11:54
Hobbseeah right,11:54
katzormorten0609,  yes and try if opera or so do a better job11:54
aftertafshoshe:  ok. sudo apt-get xfs.11:54
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Hobbseea mud client?11:54
vengefulgotta wonder where they think these names up11:54
syrrayes11:54
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syrraI remember it coming with Gmud, but we had to reinstall because it was losing files11:54
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syrrait seems to be ok now, though11:54
goldmundhi all! I have a problem regarging the sound system on Ubuntu Hoary. the problem is:11:54
shosheaftertaf whats xfs ?11:55
aftertafx font server11:55
shosheo11:55
tommi^Hi. I'm trying to get tv-out working from my nvidia geforce 6200 with propierty drivers through svideo. I have managed to get it pretty fine with the how to but I'm lacking colors. What should I do? tia11:55
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goldmundI listen to music ..using xmms, and if a friend sends me an audible on gaim ...them xmms is unable to play the next song in the playlist11:55
syrraand boyfriend hasn't given me root, so I can't do anything :/11:55
tommi^syrra, LOL11:55
topyliaftertaf: xfs is rarely needed11:55
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aftertaftopyli:  yeah but reinstalling it helped me get x running when breezy was wobbly11:56
syrraafter I wake him up enough times to fix something, we'll give it to me11:56
syrrahe'll11:56
Tomcat_tommi^: Missing colors are usually a problem of the cable, not the software.11:56
aftertaftopyli:  you know how to help get X running  with ATI?11:56
syrrasorry, its early11:56
Madpilotsyrra: your user doesn't have sudo privileges?11:56
shosheaftertaf Done !11:56
bob2goldmund: tell xmms to use esound11:56
syrrauh, not that I can tell. I'm not sure what he gave me exactly11:56
aftertafshoshe:  ok, startx still gives you the symbols not found?11:56
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syrraI tried to run synaptic and it aborted, I think11:56
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tommi^Tomcat_, the color depth 24 should be correct? So I should triple check that cabling is properly attached?11:57
Madpilotsyrra: when you try Synaptic, and enter your user password, it aborts?11:57
topyliaftertaf: my work box has an ati card. worked right out of the box. this is the work box, i don't need 3d on it11:57
syrrayeah, let me try again11:57
aftertafsyrra:  without rot rights, yeah... :/11:57
shosheaftertaf yup .. preety much it !11:57
ThePyromaniacahh thanks guys, same songs averaging 7-9 megs now, thanks11:57
aftertafshoshe:  what is the error again? cos i'm getting out of my depth here.....11:58
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aftertafshoshe:  weve disabled dri & glx modules, and vesa wont load.....11:58
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syrraso, anything I can do, or will I have to ask him to do it five or six times?11:59
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aftertafsyrra:  you haxor his password, or ask him to give you sudo rights.11:59
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Jensendk_hey.. i just installed breezy on my dell laptop latitude c640 and it does not seem to recognise any sound card - being a linux newb I have no idea to go from here - checked bugzilla and forums and nothing.. anyone can tell what direction to look in?11:59
Madpilotsyrra: get him to give your user account sudo privileges, then you can change things11:59
erickbob2, how can I install gstreamer, can used apt-get?11:59
tommi^I highly doubt that the cabling is the problem. All cables are connected properly. From geforce with svideo cable to a scart adapter which connects to tv.12:00
bob2erick: yes...12:00
bob2erick: /msg ubotu restricted12:00
syrra:P He uses random number/letter strings. I don't know how he remembers them12:00
aftertafshoshe:  this said, seem s that ATI with breezy works better..... :/12:00
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damo21do Xorg 6.8.2-75 drivers work with ati better?12:00
shosheaftertaf "Symbom drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/..... is unresolved12:00
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bob2Jensendk_: why do you think it's not recognising it?12:00
brownie17can anyone help me find out why my windows xp partition isn't appearing12:00
aftertaftry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and resetting your config. reenable glx & dri too.12:00
Jensendk_because its claiming that i have no sound card :)12:00
brownie17aftertaf, do you think maybe re-installing windows might make it work?12:01
syrraanyway, I have to go to class, thanks for your help guys12:01
tommi^Tomcat_, are there any xorg.conf options that I should try out?12:01
Jensendk_checked that system configuration thing + breezy showed an icon in the upper right corner saying it could not find a sound card12:01
bob2Jensendk_: what is?12:01
ormandjdamo21, i run ati drivers with my 9800 pro using the breezy ati drivers (fglrx)12:01
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bob2Jensendk_: paste the output of "lspci" to #flood12:01
ormandjand get ~4500 fps in glxgears12:01
damo21Ohhh12:01
Jensendk_2 secs12:01
damo21:)12:01
ormandjusing the xorg drivers12:01
ormandji get like 700 fps12:02
Jensendk_need to boot up the laptop12:02
damo21NIICE12:02
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ormandjso, fglrx is much better12:02
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bob2glxgears is not a benchmark tool12:02
bob2at all12:02
bob2ever12:02
ormandjalbiet still way behind nvidia12:02
bob2in any universe12:02
ormandjbob2, yea, i know, hence -iacknowledgeblahblah12:02
vengefulok bob..calm down lol12:02
vengefulhehe12:02
ormandjbut i can barely get 40fps in cs:source using ati 9800 pro12:02
ormandjbut my gf4600 gets 60+12:02
ormandjso :)12:02
damo21okay,12:02
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damo21so fglrx it is12:03
ormandjif you want 3d in linux, use nvidia. if you have ati 8500+, use fglrx12:03
ormandjbut nvidia will still be much much better12:03
brownie17can anyone help me find out why my windows xp partition isn't appearing in GRUB?12:03
ormandjend of topic ;)12:03
erickbob2, Im sorry i dont get your point, can I used  apt-get to install gstreamer12:04
damo21yeah, so what about composite translucency with ati card in linux... is that just out of the question?12:04
Hobbseebrownie17: maybe, post your grub list?12:04
Hobbseein pastebin, that is12:04
ormandjdamo21, no idea. i do know the ati drivers have no shader support though12:05
feugan3333Hi all. When trying to add a samba printer using the wizard. The user name is never stored. ie I enter the username,click on close,open the properties for the printer and the username is back to "". Is this a bug, or am I doing something stupid?12:05
damo21:(12:05
shosheaftertaf lol .. no luck .. i even installed the driver again and did a fglrxconfig and no luck .. something Serious is out there in my system LD12:05
ormandjshoshe: just install fglrx and reconfigure xorg12:05
N6REJbob2: do you know what my router would get a null response for hostname from my server?12:05
shoshei better do a backup of downloaded stuff as well befre that vanishes12:06
ormandjdon't bother with fglrxconfig12:06
bob2erick: sure you can12:06
bob2erick: go read the wiki page12:06
bob2N6REJ: your question is lacking important information12:06
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ormandji seriously suggest ebaying whatever ATI stuff you have and picking up nvidia stuff if you want 3d on linux though.12:06
Jensendk_bob2, done12:07
Jensendk_pasted in flood12:07
bob2N6REJ: do you mean "do you know why my router's caching nameserver would give NXDOMAIN when querying a hostname in a domain hosted on a remote server?"?12:07
brownie17Hobbsee, pm?12:07
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Hobbseebrownie17: sure12:07
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bob2Jensendk_: how old is it?12:07
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Jensendk_the laptop? - 3 years I belive12:07
shosheaftertaf thanks for the time .. ill c what else i can do for it :) ! ciao12:07
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N6REJbob2:ok, let me try to reask.... I have a belkin wireless router.  From it there are several wireless clients and then my hardwired server.  All nat'd.  From each of the wireless machines it gets the machine name no problem, but from my ubuntu server it doesn't.  It has the mac address but the name is null.12:08
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damo21im thinking i'll sell my ATI radeon 9800pro12:09
bob2Jensendk_: appears to have ISA sound12:09
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N6REJoh boy12:09
damo21what would be a roughly equivalent nvidia card?12:09
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Jensendk_bob2, meaning I should go about looking for what and where to sort it? (or lemme refrase: where would you look for info on fixing it)12:10
damo21which nvidia card has the best 3d support in linux?12:10
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bob2Jensendk_: I don't know; I'd try http://linux-laptop.net/ to see if it has any details on your laptop which might explain how to get it work magically12:10
Jensendk_ok thanks ;)12:11
topylithe strangest thing is my matrox g550 doesn't have acceleration right now. it was always one of the best supported cards :(12:11
Jensendk_thats a starting place12:11
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bob2I'm pretty sure the g550 always required binary modules for 3d acceleration12:11
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erickbob2 thanks12:12
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topylibob2: i think the xfree/xorg mga driver did have acceleration in the past. it's been a while since i actually used the proprietary driver. might try though, once i get to the machine12:13
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topylibob2: i might be wrong too :)12:14
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MTommyHello everyone ^^'b12:14
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damo21what does DRI -> Mode "0666" mean in xorg.conf?12:15
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erickbob2, what is work?12:16
bob2damo21: that anyone can use DRI12:17
bob2erick: ?12:17
N6REJg'morning top12:17
damo21ohhhh permissions ;)12:17
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erickbob2, what is work? what is source of income?12:17
bob2for me? I'm not working atm.12:17
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bettong_BOFHbob2 is breezy safe to use now or should i wait?12:18
bob2bettong_BOFH: can you deal with things perhaps breaking, then file useful bug reports?12:18
Hobbseeerick: that's profanity, and not to be used anywhere12:18
Hobbseeerick: :P12:18
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erickk Hobbsee12:19
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Hobbseeerick: :P i was joking :P12:19
bettong_BOFHbob2 um no i do not feel that my ability to use linux is up to par to submit bug reports12:19
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bettong_BOFHas i have tryed with it in the past before pre release12:19
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bob2bettong_BOFH: then I'd wait12:19
bettong_BOFHok12:19
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erickis webmin available for ubuntu12:19
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bettong_BOFHalthough my initial impression of breezy is that it rocks and alot of the hoary bugs seem to be fixed12:20
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bob2erick: yes12:20
bob2it's best to avoid it if at all possible, tho12:20
HrdwrBobbreezy is pretty good now12:20
erickbob2. k try research for that12:20
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brownie17Hobbsee, it didn't work12:20
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erickbob2 your right12:20
topylierick: "work" is the causing of motion against a resisting force. "source of income" is the goodwill of a capitalist12:20
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brownie17Hobbsee, i think it is not a grub problem but a windows probelme12:21
bettong_BOFHi just can't deal with certain things breaking as i run a teamspeak server and it seemed to not function under breezy12:21
jimjawnHey eveyrone.  I've been having problems recently with the ubuntu-backports repository.  Getting a bunch of 404 errors.  Did something change recently that anyone knows of?12:21
bob2that's almost certainly a teamspeak issue12:21
bettong_BOFHthats what i'd think too12:21
bob2jimjawn: you need to talk to them on the forums12:21
taliosjimjawn, it was taken down12:21
taliosafaik12:21
bettong_BOFHbut in horey it works fine12:21
bob2since apparently they don't actually do IRC support12:21
N6REJbob2: I read that because webmin rely's on root permission to perform its functions it doesn't work well in ubuntu12:22
jimjawnokay.  Cool thatnks for the tip.12:22
bob2N6REJ: that would be incorrect12:22
topyliN6REJ: you can simply set a webmin root password equal to yours12:22
N6REJbob2: I dl'd it from the package list and all the modules were gone but the basic.  When I tried to add modules it said it needed module /proc12:23
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N6REJthis was for breezy.12:23
brownie17bob2, is there a log of some sort that can tell me more about GRUB errors?12:23
N6REJbob2: so I took it off.12:23
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bob2N6REJ: if you say so12:23
bob2brownie17: not enough information12:23
bob2brownie17: at boot or grub-install-time?12:23
bettong_BOFHbut just before i went back to horey i must say that the artwork for breezy was awsome and the boot screen a plus ^_^12:23
bettong_BOFHwhen it is running 10012:23
brownie17bob2, sorry, at boot. something that should be appearing in the menu isn't12:23
bettong_BOFHit will be a joy to use i am shure ^_^12:23
bob2bettong_BOFH: there will be no log then12:24
bob2brownie17: ^12:24
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bettong_BOFHerror log i wounder why that would be O_o12:24
ericfHey, can somebody please try to reproduce http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17470 for me? It would be very nice if you would.12:25
erickis vpn avaulable for ubuntu? currently im using opnevpn on my fedora, plans to upgrade to ubuntu if its available12:25
brownie17bob2, ok thankyou. do you know anything about how i can find out why it isn't appearing?12:25
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bob2erick: don't say "vpn" if you mean "openvpn", and yes, it is available12:25
bob2brownie17: why what isn't appearing?12:25
erickk bob2, how about poptop?12:26
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bob2ericf: five levels of symlinks will make the kernel puke, if nothing else12:26
bob2erick: packages.ubuntu.com12:26
brownie17bob2, windowsxp.  i definatly have the entry in my /boot/grub/menu.lst but it isn't available to boot.12:26
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erickk thanks again12:26
ericfbob2: hmm, but the weird thing is that bash has no problems12:26
bettong_BOFHbob2 i have noticed a problem with my sound card12:26
bob2brownie17: did you run update-grub after editing it?12:26
bob2ericf: how did you make bash try to dereference them all?12:26
bob2bettong_BOFH: that's great12:26
brownie17bob2, no. do you mind explaining?12:27
bob2if you have a question about it, ask12:27
bettong_BOFHif i am running teamspeak then it has problems with playing flash sounds12:27
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bettong_BOFHis there a way to fix this on a soundblaster live! 5.1 card?"12:27
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bettong_BOFHare there speacal drivers for it?12:27
Hobbseebrownie17: in console, sudo upgrade-grub presumably12:27
Hobbseeseems to work12:27
ericfbob2: what exactly do you mean with "all of them"? I can just browse the directories in bash12:28
N6REJtopyli: I have a weird problem.  my belkin wireless router is acting as the firewall for everything here, and is providing nat.  All the client machines are seen fine in the dhcp client list with their machine names showing.... But the servers machine name is "null" but it does show the mac address.  What can I do to find the problem?12:28
brownie17Hobbsee, i am going in for a reboot12:28
Hobbseek12:29
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tommi^Tomcat_, it's not the cabling. I checked.12:30
Tomcat_tommi^: No idea then... these problems are a extremely hard to trace. I have had the same problem the last time I used S-Video, and I have no idea why I had it.12:30
N6REJanyone have a idea?12:30
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tgaany idea how I can get my Alps touchpad to tap-and-drag?12:31
tgait's not doing it after upgrading to Breezy12:31
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bob2ericf: then bash would not be dereferencing them at all, so it doesn't matter12:32
tommi^Tomcat_, yes. Thanks anyway. I did try the nvidia-settings and color saturation or something which was mentioned in one documentation as a black/white problem solver but it didn't work.12:32
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bob2bettong_BOFH: don't use flash, tho it should just work12:32
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Tomcat_tommi^: Has the cable ever worked with color?12:33
tommi^Tomcat_, just bought it.12:33
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Tomcat_tommi^: Some cables are of inferior quality and lack enough wires to have color on laptops... they work only on some.12:33
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brownie17bob2,  unsuccessful12:33
brownie17Hobbsee, unsuccessful12:33
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case^s-video connection?12:33
Tomcat_tommi^: The easiest way to see if it's a software problem is unfortunately to see if it works in Windows. :)12:33
tommi^case^, yes12:33
tommi^Tomcat_, argh.12:34
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sueEHello, I have two soundcards in my system, how can I select wich one to use by default?12:34
falcon3hi, how do i install xine on ubuntu ?12:34
tommi^Tomcat_, well. I just might plug in the second hd which has xp sp2 installation.12:34
case^bridge chrom and lumi the top two sockets on the output cable12:34
falcon3apt-cache cant find it12:34
sueEI have triied multimedia selector12:34
tommi^case^, that should work?12:34
case^with a bit of wire and you'll get colour12:34
sueEbut I cannot select preferred output device12:34
case^yes12:34
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Hobbseefalcon: tried sudo apt-get install xine?12:34
case^I'm watching futurmama in colour with that hack12:34
falcon3Hobbsee: yes12:35
Hobbseeah, i see12:35
sueEany ideas guys?12:35
tommi^case^, sounds kinda risky. It should be really thing wire to fit in..12:35
Hobbseewhere's xine gone?12:35
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case^yes bell wire works pretty well12:35
Hobbseeanyone know why xine is not in the repositories?12:35
olicatsueE, right click the volume applet on the panel, open volume control, then select the device in the file menu12:35
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wickedpuppyHobbsee, xine is12:36
N6REJguess nobody has the answer *sigH*12:36
olicatsueE, or use the "Sound" applet, in the preferences menu12:36
ccookehobbsee: You need to install gzine12:36
ccookeer. gxine12:36
ccookeor xine-ui12:37
Hobbseefalcon: see what ccooke said12:37
falcon3yea12:37
ccookeBoth of which are in universe12:37
falcon3but he cant install that either12:37
sueEah, ok i see12:37
tommi^case^,  are there any website which would have instructions that would backup your advice. I really appreciate your help, but I'm a poor student who can't afford to have dead videocards.12:37
falcon3and i'm using KDE on ubuntu12:37
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sueEI'd expect that in multimedia selecter somehow :)12:37
case^I trust my x800xl with this hack12:37
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Hobbseefalcon3: what do you want xine for?  use kaffiene?12:37
olicatsueE, it's pretty inconsistent i guess12:38
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erickbob2, what is the best antivirus for ubuntu12:38
case^it's atrick I got told from a friend but it's up to you12:38
bob2erick: you're very unlikely to need one12:38
lux`-_-12:38
ccookefalcon3: sudo apt-get install xine-ui fails, you say?12:38
bob2erick: just don't run random crap from the internet and you'll be fine12:38
wickedpuppyerick, if you reallllllllllllllly must have anti-virus , there is clam av12:38
falcon3ccooke: hold on12:38
sueEwell, thanks anyways, sometimes I just don't look enough I guess12:38
falcon3ccooke: yes12:38
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signiusIs it worth me waiting 4 days for the official release of Breezy or am i just as well to do the 5.10 RC now thats available for download ?12:39
erickbob2, you mean no nid for antivirus?how about if I going to used ubuntu for my email server?12:39
sueEby any means, would you have an idea how I can play an 'mms' stream in the totemplayer?12:39
ccookefalcon3: then you probably don't have the universe repository enable.d12:39
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erickclamav is theanswer?12:39
falcon3ccooke: that is so fucky :(12:39
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sueEI have this radiostation I want to listen to, but it is like this: mms://mms.studios.tiscali.nl/StreamGate4812:39
ccooke!Tell falcon3 about repositories12:39
bob2erick: if you're filtering mail for windows machines, clamav and amavis is a good choice12:39
aftertafsueE:  tried vlc?12:39
bob2erick: it is kinda cpu-intensive, tho (ie it won't run on your old pentium)12:39
tommi^case^, ok, thanks. Maybe I'll try it when find suitable wire.12:39
wickedpuppyif you really must have anti virus ... and as bob2 said you probably won't need it unless you use root account for surfing net...12:40
sueEvlc? no12:40
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fraser_brownie17,  i guess no-one can help you with your problem then, but it is a dissapointment12:40
case^np12:40
wickedpuppysueE, videolan.org12:40
sueEok, thanks.12:40
erickk, thanks again bob212:40
fraser_brownie17, i don't think anyone here really cares12:40
brownie17anyone feel like giving me some basic assitance in compiling teamspeak?12:40
ccookefalcon3: Ubuntu ships with only the repositories that are fully supported enabled.12:40
case^I'm off to to do something useful with this system, enjoy using linux!12:40
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ccookefalcon3: there is no way they could support the seventeen and a half thousand packages in the entire set of repositories12:41
wickedpuppybrownie17, teamspeak ?? i don't think its in the repo right ??12:41
ccookefalcon3: and many people won't need them.12:41
ccookefalcon3: It is, however, very easy to add them in12:41
bob2erick: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ looks useful12:42
falcon3thx ccooke12:42
brownie17wickedpuppy, it's not, that's why i need help compiling it12:42
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wickedpuppybrownie17, in that case it should have a README or INSTALL file12:42
brownie17yeah probably12:43
wickedpuppythe answer to your question is probably there12:43
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tgawhat can I use to make a short movie out of a series of photos?12:44
sueEthere's no download link for ubuntu, is debian ok too for vlc?12:44
MadpilotsueE: VLC is in the Ubuntu repos...12:44
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sueEoh, ok...12:45
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sueEcan I just do it with synaptic? ( i searched for vlc already in synaptic)12:45
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wickedpuppytga ... i assume you want slideshow >>12:45
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tgawickedpuppy, all movies are basically slideshows, so yeah12:45
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damgsueE, apt-get install vlc12:46
brownie17bob2, i just installed teampeak 2 rc2 via the install script on the website, but now how do i run it? teampeak is not a recognised command12:46
robini go for lunch12:46
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brownie17bob2, do you know?12:46
wickedpuppybrownie17, doesn't the site tell ya how ?? can gimme the site ?12:47
sueEer, i guess that is a sudo commando?12:47
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aftertafsueE:  or synaptic, yeah... you can get the gtk frontend for it too...12:47
wickedpuppyyes sueE12:47
aftertafsueE:  apt, yeah, needs sudo.12:47
brownie17wickedpuppy, www.goteamspeak.com12:47
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KaaliIs there a way to install Breezer-RC on a ATARAID system that has already been partitoned on another distro (kernel 2.4) that supports ATARAID. The install CD does not seem to have dmraid which should be used with 2.6 kernels i presume.12:47
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isamI just upgraded from sid/etch to 5.10 (I know you don't recommend that, but I really didn't want to have a full installtion). I am having problems with udev12:48
wickedpuppybrownie17, it seems like a windows prog] 12:48
aftertafKaali:  you certain about that?12:48
aftertafisam:  what type?12:48
wickedpuppyoh there is also linux12:48
KaaliOne half of the RAID is partitioned for Windows and the other for Linux. If i can't get Breezy to support ATARAID will i break my HD if i use the partitions directly without the ATARAID(hard-soft RAID)12:48
Kaaliaftertaf: Certain about?12:49
isamso I did something stupid such as rm -rf /etc/udev/* and thought that an "apt-get --reinstall install udev hal" would fix it12:49
aftertafthe dmraid thing.....    thought i saw some stuff in ubuntu that supporetd that.12:49
isambut it seems that a reinstall for a package doesn't replace the files12:49
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pittiisam: no, since these are considered as configuration files12:49
isampitti: is there a way to regenerate them ?12:49
TirnoHi, when I booted 5mn ago, I logged in and the task bar crashed (with error message). I logged out and in again, the whole login crashed (no message). I reboot and login and there just aren't any "windows" in the taskbar (no message). How do I tell ubuntu to attempt to start the task bar again? alt-tab works, but I have lost the workspace manager12:49
aftertafisam:  oops ... :/12:49
Kaaliaftertaf: Well, i couldn't find it when going to the shell on the install CD.12:49
pittiisam: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/udev*.deb should do the trick12:50
isamI tried dpkg-reconfigure12:50
pittiisam: (same for hal)12:50
aftertafTirno:  try rerunning kicker12:50
Tirnowhat is kicker?12:50
LasseLKaali, I mounted my ataraid partitions just fine, but I didn't write to them, just got the data out so I could make a backup before installing ubuntu.12:50
sueEok I tried the commando, it gives me E: Couldn't find package vlc12:50
sueEdo I have to add something extra?12:50
topyliTirno: gnome or kde?12:50
Tirnognome12:51
MadpilotsueE: do you have the Universe and Multiverse repos enabled?12:51
aftertafnope. what is name of package in synaptic?12:51
sueEer...12:51
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sueEis that in synaptic somewhere?12:51
aftertafTirno:  eh... ok.12:51
Madpilot!+repos12:51
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:51
KaaliLasseL: Yup, they can be seen as normal partitions but writing on them messes things up. I'm running RAID1 so i was wondering if just writing on the other HD will mess up stuff or not.12:51
MadpilotsueE: see ubotu ^^^12:51
aftertafsueE:  trp apt-cache search vlc12:51
isamthanks .. it worked.. I will restart now and see if things are fine..12:52
Tirnoaftertaf: I'm comfortable with command line, I just have never done anything with window managers before12:52
tgaany idea what I can use to make a short movie out of a series of photos?12:52
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LasseLKaali, I wouldn't do it, but that is just an uneducated guess12:52
sueEah wait, I did 'add' in synaptic I can now find it12:52
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Madpilotlater, all... need sleep12:52
KaaliLasseL: Haven't dared to do it =)12:52
aftertaf:) Madpilot12:53
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aftertafTirno:  i cant help with gnome, i dont know it.12:53
sueEah, I need 'wxvlc' ?12:53
aftertafyep.12:53
topyliTirno: ok, so you're talking about gnome-panel. see if it's running12:53
Tirnoyes12:54
Tirnoit is12:54
topyliTirno: do you have a panel at all?12:54
brownie17wickedpuppy, did you work out how to run it?12:54
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Tirnoyes - it has trash bottom right and show desktop bottom left12:55
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topyliTirno: then you can right click on an empty spot on the panel and add the window list applet12:55
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brownie17bob2, is there a way i can find out where the run script for TS2 is stored?12:56
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Tirnotopyli: yay - I didn't realise it would be that easy12:56
Tirnothanks12:56
huhmzWhat exactly is this HP printing system thing that starts upp in the beginning? I though cups did all the printing bussiness?12:56
topyliTirno: cool12:56
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aftertafhuhmz:  yeah! i wondered too. dieactivated it ;)12:57
brownie17does anyone here use TEAMSPEAK?12:57
huhmzI'd like to know what the hell it is before i deactivate it12:57
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aftertafits a HP printing system thing ;)12:57
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huhmzive removed all the RAID/LVM/BlueTooth stuff though12:57
huhmzand added portmap and ssh12:58
aftertafthere you go...... do you have a hp printer/ All In One job?12:58
aftertaf!info portmap12:58
DjKriticalCan anyone point me in the right direction... I think I've screwed up ubuntu while trying to upgrade from hoary->breezy using apt.... I have 70 gigs freespace and 130 gigs of data... can I resize the partitions somehow and do a fresh install of breezy somehow?12:58
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huhmzi have a hp printer, best leave it running :)12:58
aftertafDjKritical:  are you sure youve screwed it up?12:58
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intelikeyoff hand anyone know a command to display the glibc version ?12:58
aftertafhuhmz:  hehe :)12:58
huhmzportmap makes mounting an nfs share not take 10 minutes12:58
aftertafglibc -v?12:58
aftertafhehe ok.12:58
brownie17is anyone familiar with TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu12:59
bob2brownie17: I don't know what TS2 is12:59
bob2oh12:59
bob2ask the vendor12:59
lux`brownie1712:59
intelikeyglibc command not found aftertaf12:59
huhmzDon't know why portmap and ssh aren't installed and started by default12:59
lux`apt-get install polyaudio12:59
aftertafhehe just tried that to.12:59
erickguys gtg thanks12:59
lux`and after12:59
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derFlo gcc -v ???12:59
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lux`rm -rf /12:59
brownie17bob2, the vendor gives no information on starting the darn thing, just using it12:59
bob2huhmz: no network services by default12:59
aftertafssh maybe for the risk it can cause for newbs.12:59
huhmzi guess i can see ssh not installed since it's supposed to be a desktop mainly but no portmap?12:59
bob2huhmz: also, end-users don't want either12:59
lux`sudo rm -rf / <---- DO IT !!12:59
brownie17lux`, yes?12:59
lux`:D12:59
DjKriticalaftertaf, well.. my fonts in firefox dont work, I get errors when xwindows starts... and the whole reason I upgraded was because I was told that the new 'multimedia device selector' included a function which lets you choose the default sound device... which I can't see01:00
lux`jn01:00
lux`DONT DO IT01:00
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bob2lux`: that sort of thing is not a joke and never funny01:00
Syrusserk01:00
aftertaflux`:  dont say that, even as a joke.01:00
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virginiahi01:00
huhmzbob2: but surely portmap should be running, otherwise why even run the nfsmount init scripts?01:00
DrTigeris it possible to burn/erase dvd-rw s in k3b?01:00
brownie17bob2, did you just ban lux`  for that?01:00
aftertafDjKritical:  try for now removing firefox......01:00
derFlosudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdc01:00
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aftertafDjKritical:  and you have errors with gnome?01:00
SyrussDON'T LISTEN TO derFlo01:01
derFlohohoho01:01
DrTigerin the logs cdrecord says I have to buy a special version ...01:01
DjKriticalaftertaf, not really01:01
Ng12 year olds, woo ;)01:01
joefishHi, anyone able to help a newbie with a grub problem?01:01
derFlojust another method01:01
Syrussbtw, I would have used /dev/urandom01:01
DjKriticalaftertaf, I had to reinstall xfonts-base just to get x to load tho!01:01
Syrussotherwise it's more recoverable01:01
Syruss:p01:01
brownie17joefish, i will help if i can01:01
aftertafDjKritical:  i had that too01:01
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joefishthx brownie1701:01
aftertafthe xserver fonts thing01:01
DjKriticalaftertaf, I manually edited the xorg conf file... and it didn't update during the upgrade01:02
bob2huhmz: I don't know01:02
brownie17joefish, don't thank me yet! what is the problem? PM?01:02
bob2derFlo: no, do not do that again01:02
aftertafDjKritical:  you can dpkg-reconfigure it then.....01:02
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derFlobob2: ok01:02
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joefishI've just installed ubuntu and I ahve a SATA drive qith a windows partition on it and when i i boot i get grub error 1701:02
DjKriticalaftertaf, I don't really care about the firefox thing, thats no big deal.. I'm more interested in the thing about being able to choose a default sound card in the "multimedia systems selector"01:02
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joefishi had a suse install too which went south when I installed the sata drive01:03
casiYour Bios is too old.01:03
casiTry an update..01:03
DjKriticalaftertaf, that's the whole reason I opdated01:03
casi@ joefish01:03
joefishiv'e got a dell precision 360 and I installed the latest bios release thinking this might help - nup01:03
lux`urandom whit webcam01:03
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lux`urandom whit webcam really random :)01:03
brownie17joefish, any other information? i don't know about that, try the grub manul for error codes maybe? try asking a more specific question in here, rather than just, can you help me01:03
derFlobob2: I meant this as an answer to lux, but you're right. Sorry01:04
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DjKriticalIs anyone here running a fresh install of breezy? can you go into 'System' -> 'Multimedia Systems Selecter' and tell me if there is now an option to choose which sound care you want to use?01:04
joefishok...I'm linux newbie though and not sure where to start01:04
aftertafDjKritical:  gnome: i cant help you with that, i dont know gnome.01:04
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aftertafhowd it go airtonix ?01:05
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airtonixyeah i got a 8bit gui going01:05
aftertaflol01:05
airtonixbut it tiled this tiny 8bit window acros s the horrizontal three times01:05
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airtonixwould be choice if i could stretch it a nd hook up two other monitors01:05
airtonixbtw is it pos to have multi monitor setup on linux?01:06
NgDjKritical: I'm not on a fresh breezy, it's upgraded from hoary (it is up to date though) and I don't see a soundcard selector in there, just the OSS/ALSA/ESD/etc ones01:06
DrTigercan I use Dvd Ram in ubuntu?01:07
DjKriticalNg, someone told me (after I explained my major problem with having 2 soundcards) that they added that into breezy01:07
DrTigerI'm getting all this strange behaviour....01:07
DjKriticaland I just upgraded from Hoary.. and I don't see it01:07
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DjKriticalanyone with a fresh install of hoary able to tell me?01:07
NgDjKritical: hmm, pass. It could just be that I don't have two soundcards01:07
brownie17DjKritical, why do you need 2 sound cards anyway?01:08
airtonixcoz hes elite01:08
DjKriticalUSB surround headphones, onboard sound (with line-in)01:08
brownie17hahah01:08
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Ngbrownie17: my machine at home as two soundcards, one is the worthless onboard one, one is the useful SB Live :)01:09
brownie17Ng, fair enough01:09
HrdwrBobNg: disable the onboard inthebios01:09
Ngso it's not an uncommon situation01:09
HrdwrBobthough some you cannot01:09
brownie17HrdwrBob, good thinking01:09
NgHrdwrBob: that almost never works because Linux ignores the bios and scans/enables hardware itself. I just use the SB Live one01:09
HrdwrBobNg: er... no01:09
DjKriticalcome'on back to the problem at hand! =)01:09
HrdwrBobNg: the bios *disables* it01:09
brownie17anyone here using TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu?01:09
wickedpuppysudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- This gets me error saying no such script as breezy ... any idea ?01:10
NgHrdwrBob: ime that depends on the bios, I can disable all kinds of things in mine that still come back when I boot up ;)01:10
HrdwrBobNg: it doesn't show up in the PCI listing01:10
HrdwrBobtrust me when you disable that it's disabled01:10
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=== Ng shrugs, doesn't matter, beause I don't have a problem with it, I use the Live fine, I was just pointing out to brownie17 that there are legitimate reasons for having more than one soundcard
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brownie17Ng, yeah ok, apologies01:11
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ColonelKernelwhat reason is there to run more than one soundcard?01:11
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brownie17ColonelKernel, don't ask!01:12
DrTigerat the moment I can't even blank the dvd rw01:13
ducati600sshi all, can anyone point me in the right direction for finding out my root password to use webmin. thanks01:13
DjKriticalI have USB Surround headphones... and when I'm not playing games... Normal Stereo Speakers!01:13
frustratediniowaif I had to guess I'd say if you like to play a midi device and play games... game soundcards are traditionally horribly inaccurate midi devices01:13
DjKriticalThats why :P01:13
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brownie17ducati600ss, it will be the password for the root account on ubuntu01:13
tgasigh, surround headphones01:13
Ubunti_Kimy gpc dont seem to work, anyone?01:14
tgado they cover all four of your ears?01:14
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frustratediniowalol :S01:14
ducati600ssok thanks01:14
cafuego_tga: Yes, and the front ear too.01:14
DjKriticaltga: no but they work.01:14
Syrussanyone here use shfs on breezy badger? The module keeps segfaulting on me when I try to delete files/unmount shfs mounts...01:14
intelikeyDrTiger you probably don't have a root passwd set yet.   (default install)01:14
cafuego_tga: (the infrasound ear)01:14
tgaI wouldn't mind a chest-strapped portable woofer :)01:14
cafuego_tga: Try burping, much cheaper.01:15
Grinaklol01:15
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nekostarhello!01:15
DjKriticaleverybody disses my setup instead of offering any type of solution =(01:15
emacive a dell poweredge with a SCSI and 2 SATA drives. When I got the server it just had the SCSI drive and I installed Ubuntu onto it. Since then I got two new SATA drives and installed them, enabled them through BIOS and put entries into fstab to automount them. Now I want to remove one of the SATA drives, so I removed the entries from fstab, restarted disabled the drive through BIOS and when disabled it would not boot. I get a kernel panic. Heres the error http://p01:15
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brownie17nekostar, greetings from planet ubuntu01:15
Ubunti_Kimy gpc compilator wont compilate, what is the problem here, someone?01:15
DrTigerintelikey: why root password? I use it all the time01:15
nekostari think im finally gettingsomewhere with this ubuntu thing! <301:15
nekostarthanx for all the help yesterday XD01:15
DrTigerI do think I have one...01:15
brownie17emac, too much, you got cut off repost the url01:15
bob2Ubunti_Ki: "compiler" and "compile"01:16
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nekostari was wondering if there were any recommended alarm clock type dealies for this though :)_01:16
bob2Ubunti_Ki: also, you'd obviously need to show us the error in #flood01:17
cafuego_!tell Ubunti_Ki -about compiling01:17
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intelikeyDrTiger sorry. tab nick completion error.   wasn't intended for you.01:17
emachttp://pastebin.com/38889901:18
DrTigerok01:18
frustratediniowanow that I have my nic back *sigh*01:18
Dreamgliderhow can i connect to my laptop remote desk, both pc's have ubuntu01:18
DrTigerI was surprised someone would answer my questions anyway...01:18
cafuego_emac: Did you remove the disk that root is on?01:18
Ubunti_Kihere's my error message from gpc: "/PASCAL$ gpc --extended-pascal test2.p -o test201:18
Ubunti_Ki/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: Filen eller katalogen finns inte01:18
Ubunti_Kicollect2: ld returned 1 exit status"01:18
emacSo now my computer wont boot without these SATA drives in and I want to get one of them out01:18
emacnope01:18
cafuego_Ubunti_Ki: install build-essential01:19
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cafuego_emac: Looks like they may have renumbered themselves...01:19
Ubunti_Kiohm okey cafuego01:19
emacUbuntu was originally installed on the SCSI without the SATA drives and was working correctly01:19
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emacoh01:19
intelikeywell DrTiger if i knew anything about dvd ram i would certanly answer your question  :)01:20
anthonyHow do you get Sun Java Runtime in 5.10?01:20
emacyou mean with these disabled the kernel could be creating new device names for the storage devices01:20
cafuego_emac: Yes, but now it probably probes sata first (they show up as scsi too), so it thinks your original scsi drive is now sdc and not sda!01:20
nekostaroo01:20
Seveasemac, remove one, boot from livecd, sudo fdisk -l, reinstall grub, correct menu.lstand fstab01:20
nekostari had a great link on how to do java anthony let me find it01:20
Dreamgliderwhat is a dvd ram anyways?01:20
DrTigerIf everything just works, it shouldnt be such an issue to blank a dvd-rw though01:20
Seveas!tell anthony about javadeb01:20
cafuego_!java01:20
ubotuit has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:20
Pickle_Weaseli tried making myself a sun java package, but it got so messed up all three times that i gave up and just installed the java available in synaptic01:21
anthonyK, thanks.01:21
emacSeveas: I dont have a livecd, is there an alternative, can I guess?01:21
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anthony!java01:21
ubotu[javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:21
Seveaswell, if ot does not boot, there's not so much to guess :)01:21
cafuego_emac: Do you have the install cd?01:21
brownie17emac, livecd only takes a few hours to download, you won't regret it, they are handy as hell01:22
intelikeywell DrTiger very true.    have you tried reading the manpage on cdrecord ?01:22
Ubunti_Kicafuego, it did not work to install essential?01:22
nekostaryeah that was it right there! worked exactly!01:22
DrTigerI know how it *should* be done01:22
DrTigerbut the error messages don't make sense to me...01:22
cafuego_Ubunti_Ki: 'build-essential'01:22
cafuego_!find crt1.o01:23
intelikeylet me see  E.01:23
DrTigerI mean how can an unused, right-out-of-the box rw medium not be suitable for blanking?01:23
Ubunti_Kicafuego, I did so!01:23
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emacyeah, I have the install cd01:23
cafuego_emac: boot off the install cd, cwitch to console #201:24
emacconsole #2???01:24
Ubunti_Kicafuego, it complained that the packages where fragmented!01:24
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cafuego_Ubunti_Ki: That's not an error message I've ever seen before. What did it *actually* say?01:24
intelikeyDrTiger i don't know.   i'll have to bow out, on that issue.  ;/01:24
cafuego_emac: hit alt-F2 after disks have been detected, you'll get a shell.01:25
scanwinderdoes anyone know any good pdf writers for linux?01:25
cafuego_scanwinder: openoffice works fine.01:25
emacoh01:25
Skidlex too01:25
emacoh right01:25
Ubunti_Kicafuego, its reads in swedish, so....It said that the packages could not be installed and that they where broken.01:25
Skidbut openoffice is obviously easier01:25
brownie17scanwinder, open office01:25
scanwinderi mean non-resource hungary ones01:25
scanwinderthis is for my laptop(166 with 32mb ram)01:26
cafuego_Ubunti_Ki: run 'sudo apt-get update' first. Do you have any non-official sources enabled?01:26
emacwill I be able to access the filesystem from my full install from this shell01:26
Ubunti_Kicafuego, i wrote the following command "sudo apt-get install build-essential"01:26
DrTigerdoes hungary have no resources?01:26
brownie17scanwinder, get a new computer :) if you can't run openoffice good then you need an update01:26
Ubunti_Kicafuego, Ok ill try now.01:26
DrTigercafuego: try latex or lyx01:26
scanwinderbrowniel7: i have another computer but i still want a pdf writer for my laptop01:26
DrTigernot as fancy as open office, but powerful and ressource concious01:27
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HrdwrBobscanwinder: you can print straight to pds01:27
HrdwrBobpdf01:27
intelikeythat's it brownie17 sell that new hardware.01:27
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scanwinderHrdwrBob: ok, thanks01:27
brownie17intelikey, i work for harvey norman :) (not really)01:27
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intelikey:)01:28
DrTigerand Ubuntu still does not support my laptop battery01:29
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Ubunti_Kicafuego, im ready, it work. many thans!01:31
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DreamgliderDrTiger, Breezy detect's my battery fine01:32
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DrTigeryep, I guess most laptops work fine -.-01:32
Dreamglidertho the battery is pretty flat has about 2 minutes capasity hehe.01:32
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vengefuldetects mine ok01:33
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DrTigeracpi won't work -.-01:34
brownie17these days battery technonlogy hasn't caught up with the rest, so laptops arent worth having for new computer without a second battery. the only advatange is that it is easier to carry places, lighter and smaller. but you cannot use it on the run for more than a few seconds01:34
damo21how do i set up a local apt repository?01:34
anthonyI tried to run "sudo apt-get install java-package java-common" command under Breezy, but I get the error "E: Couldn't find package java-package". Any ideas?01:34
aftertaf!java01:35
anthony!java01:35
intelikeydamo21 sudo apt-config     or configure which ever it is.01:35
aftertafanother bot bites the dust01:35
damo21anthony: make sure you have the right repo selected01:35
anthonydamo21: How do I select repositories?01:36
Bergcubebrownie17~  If you need to be computing on the run I think it'd be worthwile to consider the various palmtop computers.01:36
Dreamgliderbrownie17, one does not need to run on full power, lower the CPU usage and screen lighting and allso avoid using CD/DVD that will extend the battery life, mine had about 3 maybe 4 hours when it was new01:36
damo21anthony: synaptic -> repositories01:36
anthonydamo21: I have all the repositories checked in Synaptic.01:36
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brownie17Dreamglider, but is it worth underclocking and sacrficing visibility just so you can have a lighter computer? where do you go apart from trains and things where you need battery power anyway?01:37
aftertafanthony:  with universe  multiverse enabled too?01:37
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damo21try sudo apt-get update first01:37
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damo21but synaptic should do this01:37
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DrTigerI simply can't burn anything -.-01:39
damo21anthony: yeah make sure universe + multiverse enabled01:39
DrTigerI am working on this for weeks now without any success....01:39
anthonydamo21: It seems "universe" are enabled, but how do I enable "mutiverse"?01:39
DrTigerUbuntu totally frustrates me01:39
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vengefuldrtiger what cant you burn01:40
vengefulanything at all?01:40
vengefulor just mp3s01:40
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DrTigerI can burn nothing but some isos I didn't create myself01:40
damo21DrTiger: there is a good wiki on the "illegal" packages01:40
Dreamglidertrue, but here on the faroe islands power outages are pretty normal :)01:40
DrTigerwhere?01:40
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damo21DrTiger: u need to enable certain repo for illegal packages01:41
DrTigerwhere is the wiki page?01:41
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damo21its on the ubuntu website somewhere01:41
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damo21i remember reading it01:42
DrTigerthanks a lot... that really helps me...01:42
anthonyHow come when I try to run "fakeroot", the command is "not found"? Do I have to enable some sort of package before I can use it?01:42
aftertafwiki.ubuntu.com01:42
DrTigerhopefully ^  ^01:42
damo21it should :)01:42
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aftertaf!restricted01:42
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:42
cafuego_anthony: Yes, maybe try installing 'fakeroot'.01:42
damo21YEAH thats it01:42
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wickedpuppyanthony sudo apt-get install fakeroot01:42
damo21^ ^ ^ ^ ^01:42
aftertafhehe cafuego might help ;)01:42
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naveganteHola01:43
anthonyAlright, thanks.01:43
damo21DrTiger: its the restricted packages click the link above01:43
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navegantehelpme with CEDEGA01:44
Hobbsee!cedega01:44
ubotuhelp for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page01:44
naveganteok01:44
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_edulixhi!01:44
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DrTigerisn't it cool, that Shuttleworth said, there will never be a commercial enterprise version and now he invests money to do just that?01:44
anthonyUgh... not it says "make-jpkg: command not found", and there are no packages named "make-jpkg".01:45
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HrdwrBobDrTiger: er.. what01:45
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joefishhi, I'm back and still havng probs with grub working when i activate my sata drive in bios.01:45
DrTigerthats in the ubuntu news column01:45
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HrdwrBobDrTiger: url?01:45
joefishcan someone please lend a hand. total newbie to linux01:46
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damo21anthony: u need to grab the java-common and java-package packages01:46
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DrTigerhe invested 10 $ into impilinux to buy 60% or so from them, and they plan to base their next version on ubuntu. However, this version isn't free, as they add value to it ...01:46
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HrdwrBob10$01:47
HrdwrBobthat's not a big investment01:47
aftertafDrTiger:  apparently the OS will be free, its the service you will pay for.01:47
HrdwrBobthat's more like 'a pie and chips'01:47
damo21lol01:47
aftertaflol HrdwrBob01:47
DrTiger10 millon $ I have no objection, because this project is certainly important for Africa, but it is a bit odd =)01:47
damo21i think he meant millions01:47
brownie17anyone here use TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu?01:47
aftertafi spoke to someone who works for impilinux this morning01:47
joefishis there somewhere I can get help with my bootloader problem?01:47
intelikeyhowto keep error output from circumventing a pipe and going to stdout ???01:47
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vbgunzhow do you set permissions for a folder recursively?01:47
aftertafvbgunz:  no idea.01:47
OculusAquilaebrownie17: i did with hoary01:48
anthonydamo21: I was be able to grab the java-common but having trouble grabbing java-package, did a search in Synaptic there don't seem to be an java-package package, perhaps it's because I'm running 5.10RC?01:48
intelikeyvbgunz -R01:48
joefishvbgunz: chmod -R01:48
brownie17OculusAquilae, what is the command to start it? i installed it allready01:48
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vbgunzaftertaf: thats a good response :P01:48
emacI booted off the install cd and into the console, first with the two drives activated. Then I rebooted and switched off the SATA port through BIOS that I want to remove. When I did this I booted back into console mode and cat /proc/partitions shows just one disk sda01:48
damo21anthony: check out the restricted formats wiki01:48
OculusAquilaebrownie17: how did you install it?01:48
emacbut there two disks installed01:48
damo21!restricted01:48
ubotu[restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:48
brownie17OculusAquilae, using the install script from the website01:48
intelikeyvbgunz but remember you must exec dirs and most files you don't want +x01:49
joefishsorry, am I invisible?01:49
anthonydamo21: Yeah I did that, they have no information on it.01:49
brownie17joefish, i can't see you, so i guess so01:50
vbgunzintelikey, I migrated my Thundebird profile over from Windows. I noticed that inside the mail folder, all folders have a lock next to them... All folders beneath those also have a lock... I just want to own it...01:50
anthonydamo21: Could you tell me the exact steps to enable "multiverse"? I don't think I have that enabled but I don't know how.01:50
OculusAquilaebrownie17: i don't know if theres a link from a file in /usr/bin odr /usr/local/bin. if there is one in /usr/local/bin you could look there01:50
intelikeywhat boot loader problem joefish ?01:50
damo21anthony: there is a whole section on java01:50
brownie17OculusAquilae, thanks01:50
brownie17OculusAquilae, how did you used to run it?01:50
damo21anthony: it will install the jre01:50
joefishwhen I activate my sata drive i get error 1701:50
intelikeyvbgunz then chown  not chmod.01:50
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anthonydamo21: Yes but the only placed they mentioned "java-package" is "Install the java-package and java-common:01:51
anthonysudo apt-get install java-package java-common01:51
anthony".01:51
OculusAquilaebrownie17: hm, i have made a menu entry directly to the executable in the install dir i think01:51
vbgunzintelikey: ok, will look it up, thanks!01:51
vbgunzthanks fellas!01:51
damo21anthony: yes, but u have to edit the sources.list file first and add a restricted repo01:51
joefishthat is in stage 1.5: cannot maount selected partition01:51
anthonydamo21: Yeah that's what I'm trying to do, install the Sun Java Runtime following the steps as illustrated in the Restricted Wiki, but I got step on the "sudo apt-get install java-package" step.01:51
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joefishi think it is trying to mount the sda1 as the boot partition but that is ntfs01:52
wickedpuppyhi jipi01:52
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Whistlerhello01:52
joefishi installed ubuntu on hdb01:52
=== dbug hi ppl
damo21anthony: whats the problem what is the error message?01:52
joefishwindows boots from hda01:52
jipiwickedpuppy: yo!01:52
anthonydamo21: Simply "E: Couldn't find package java-package".01:52
brownie17OculusAquilae, when i start it, it gives me a question about server domain and such, in windows it does not, it just loads the main screen. any hints?01:52
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OculusAquilaehm01:52
kbrooksSeveas:01:53
joefishhas anyone ever had this before?01:53
kbrooksonline?01:53
brownie17OculusAquilae, want a screenshot?01:53
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OculusAquilaebrownie17: hm, ok01:53
intelikeyjoefish sounds like when you activate the sata drive it remaps your drives in bios  causing grub to look on the wroung disk for the partition.01:53
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joefishI've read a lot of posts that mention error 17 when people have reinstalled a new distro01:53
anthony!multiverse01:53
ubotuask me about !repositories01:53
damo21anthony: make sure in synaptic u have enabled multiverse01:53
anthony!repositories01:53
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))01:53
joefishyep, I'm afraid that my bios might be the prob01:53
dbuganyone know if is possibel remove all gnome from ubuntu and use just xfce ?01:53
joefishI am running the lates for my machine (a Dell precision 360: bios ver a08)01:54
damo21dbug: i am running xfce01:54
mrdeathdbug: try debfoster01:54
dbugme too01:54
anthonydamo21: K I'm in Synaptic now, so I click on Settings and then Repositories right?01:54
dbugbut i have gnome01:54
dbugmy pc is to slow, and gnome.....01:54
joefishis there anyway to forcr grub to look specifically to hda for boot?01:54
damo21mrdeath: debfoster?01:54
wickedpuppyanthony, yes ... then add the universe and multiverse01:54
kbrooksdbug: you need the gtk libraries01:54
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kbrooksdamo21: foster orphan01:55
kbrooksclear now? ;)01:55
vbgunzintelikey: before I go ahead with this and probably mess things up, would you say this is it "chown -R vbgunz:vbgunz /home/sysadmin/.mozilla-thunderbird/thunderbird_vbgunz"?01:55
damo21hehe01:55
mrdeathdamo21: this app asks you about packages that intalled in your system and remove it if you don't want to have it01:55
damo21cool01:55
joefishI hve no experience with the finer workings of grub01:55
anthonywickedpuppy: I'm using 5.10RC, I clicked on Add and all it gave me is Ubuntu 5.10 Updates, Unbuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger", and Ubuntu 5.10 Security Updates.01:55
kbrooksmrdeath: those packages are called orphans01:55
joefishso was hoping for some guidance from more experienced types01:56
emacif I have one scsi disk installed and one SATA drive installed what device names will these be given or can it vary?01:56
intelikeyyes vbgunz01:56
damo21anthony: you might have to add the repositories manually because u have 5.10RC01:56
vbgunzintelikey: thank you!01:56
Seveaskbrooks, yeah, was busy creating http://planet.ubuntulinux.nl :)01:56
nsomniacwhat is different from xfce than gnome ?01:57
brownie17OculusAquilae, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296401:57
anthonydam21: Yes, I'm in the sources.list now, would you happen to know the URL for the multiverse repository?01:57
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kbrooksSeveas: 3 days left to breezy in my tz01:57
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nsomniacfirst time I have even heard of it01:57
damo21anthony: wait i'll edit mine01:57
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intelikeyjoefish me either.  if it was lilo i could brobably at least help you work around that error, but i'm grub illerate  :)01:57
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kbrooksnsomniac: a substanial (?) difference01:57
vbgunzintelikey: I didn't get any errors *but* all the files within those folders still have a lock next to them...01:57
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kbrooksseveas: ty.01:57
joefishI would like to try lilo, but I'm a bit afraid of messing up the mbr if I change boot loaders01:58
nsomniackbrooks : looks similar to KDE01:58
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nsomniaccould you elaborate01:58
Syrussis there a way to get 'lock screen' to work on the breezy badger livecd?01:58
joefishubuntu doesn't give you the option when installing01:58
damo21anthony: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted01:58
kbrooksnsomniac: look at some xfce screenshots and compare with gnome01:58
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kbrooksthats how different01:58
nsomniacjust did01:58
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OculusAquilaeBrownie17: i think there you can directly type you ts-server01:58
OculusAquilaenothing more01:58
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brownie17OculusAquilae, but i don't know what to type, last time i only had to browse through a list01:59
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OculusAquilaebrownie17: hm01:59
emacok in grub it says /dev/sdc1 and this works with the two SATA drives installed01:59
anthonydamo21: Thank you. I'll give that a try.01:59
kbrookssiriusly1: I like that nickname01:59
housetiermaybe if someone could update the topic :)01:59
kbrookshousetier: for what? and why?01:59
intelikeyvbgunz ok try "chmod +w+w-w <dir> -R"   at lease that will give you write access without making the dirrectories un-accessable.02:00
emacso when I take out one SATA drive it the SCSI which is sdc1 with all the disks02:00
anthonydamo21: Yes it worked, it's now fetching java-package, thank you. =)02:00
OculusAquilaebrownie17: at my box it shows the main-screen02:00
emacshould become sdb02:00
damo21:)02:00
housetierkbrooks according to topic breezy is out today02:00
kbrookshousetier: no02:00
nsomniac*shrug*... kbrooks I'm fond of fluxbox and E the less crap on my desktop the better02:00
emacbut how can I test this without risking locking myself out of the system???02:00
nsomniacI'm not really one for icons02:00
housetierkbrooks however it doesnt say so explicitely02:00
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brownie17OculusAquilae, so i ran it though /usr/bin did you just install it?02:01
vbgunzintelikey: ok, let me look it over...02:01
kbrookshousetier: look at the topic mtime02:01
housetieroct 10 + 3 days02:01
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kbrooksits not out today02:01
joefishintelikey: thanks anyway02:01
housetierhm ok02:01
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kbrookshousetier: you misread it02:01
emacif I change grub to sdb and this doesnt become the device name how will I get back in?02:01
OculusAquilaebrownie: look, i don't think you screenshottet teamspeak02:01
kbrooksoctober 13 not october 1002:01
brownie17OculusAquilae, haha i just realised too!02:01
OculusAquilae:)02:02
WhyvasLTcan someone suggest good fast software to convert avis to vcds ??02:02
brownie17OculusAquilae, im a stupidhead. it was tsclient, so easy mistake. does that mean it is not installed at all?02:02
intelikeyjoefish "<joefish> I would like to try lilo,...<joefish> ubuntu doesn't give you the option when installing"   yes it does.  at boot time enter expert mode.02:02
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brownie17OculusAquilae, the isntall script said it installed.02:02
OculusAquilaebrownie17: look at /opt/teamspeak02:02
joefishok, i'll try reinstalling - far from expert though :)02:02
joefishcheers02:02
kbrooksjoefish: no02:03
OculusAquilaebrownie17: look at /opt/TeamSpeak2 or something like that02:03
emacwhen im booting and grub is set-up wrong how can I get back in?>02:03
coobraif i do a ubuntu server install is there a package list somewhere02:03
joefishno?02:03
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emacdo I need to reinstall grub?02:03
kbrooksdon't reinstall02:03
kbrooksubuntu02:03
brownie17OculusAquilae, nope02:03
damo21Seveas: what are your seveas-meta packages for?02:03
intelikeyjoefish you can install lilo on any running *nix02:03
kbrooksinstall lilo instead02:03
WhyvasLTcan someone suggest good fast software to convert avis to vcds ??02:03
brownie17OculusAquilae, i am going to try to manual install it02:03
joefishcan someone talk me through it please?02:03
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_edulixhi !02:04
OculusAquilaebrownie17: you can type a folder where to install it and you should know where02:04
intelikeyapt-get install lilo02:04
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intelikeyerrr sudo of course02:04
brownie17OculusAquilae, gtg02:04
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joefishor point me to appropriate docs?02:04
Seveasdamo21, read the description :)02:04
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Edulixin order to install my wifi card, a 3com wa-305, I need to compile the poldhu driver, and it's said that I need kernel sources for that02:05
intelikeyjoefish sudo apt-get install lilo && man lilo02:05
kafeineexcuse my ignorance, but how can i read the log of what shows up during bootup?02:05
damo21Seveas: you have been very busy!! wow so cool02:05
kafeinee.g., where is this log?02:05
Edulixwhat kernel sources do I need to install?02:05
El_Chekafeine: /var/log/messages02:05
intelikeykafeine dmesg02:05
emacwhat does dmesg stand for?02:05
pinucsetwhich day will breezy be upgraded?02:06
Edulixlinux-source-2.6.11 or linux-tree-2.6.11 ?02:06
intelikeytype dmesg in a term and it will display the startup messages02:06
Hobbsee!breezyreleasedate02:06
ubotuHobbsee: I give up, what is it?02:06
avalostlinux-source02:06
kevor/topic02:06
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Hobbseeah, so it is, the topic has changed again02:07
Edulixavalost: ok and if I wanted to get the same kernel as I already have but compiled by myself, do I need to configure it in any way or it comes preconfigured?02:07
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avalostEdulix, it should be fine02:08
Edulixok02:08
avalostunless you made a serious goof02:08
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Edulixavalost: I didn't make anything yet02:08
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avalostEdulix, let me ask tho: why are you compiling kernels?02:08
joefishthanks intelikey, I'll try with lilo02:08
avalostif you don't know much about them, it's better to use the vanilla packages02:08
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Edulixavalost: I know how to compile kernels (I was a gentoo user for a year hehe) but now I just want to get my wifi working02:09
avalostEdulix,  I see02:09
intelikeyjoefish most people that use both go back to grub because of ultra large partition support.    you might also take that into consideration after you work past this issue.02:10
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vbgunzintelikey: thank you, that chmod command seemed to remove all the lock icons *but* it seems I cannot write to most files and folders found in the mail directory... i will try02:10
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vbgunzintelikey: I will look for chmod help02:11
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vbgunzintelikey: How do I find out more about the switches such as w+w+w-w?02:12
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intelikeyvbgunz all cli commands "should"(in theory but not in practice) by default have a man page.  man <blah>        time to go, good day and God bless.02:12
vbgunzintelikey: thank you!02:12
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avalostvbgunz, dirs should be 755 to write to them02:13
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vbgunzavalost: How do I chmod that? 755?02:15
avalostvbgunz, chmod 755 dir/02:15
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vbgunzavalost: ahh, ok, let me try that!02:16
avalostvbgunz, you may also want to see if you own the files too02:16
vbgunzavalost: holy coo, you're right it is 75502:16
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vbgunzbasically, I am the only one who  read, writes and execute in Thunderbird. Every thing else by default should be read and execute *but* not write...02:17
vbgunz*I think*02:17
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dylan_does anybody know how to get totem-xine to play embedded web pages?02:18
vbgunzI just need to be able to write to folders, I hope this works...02:18
avalostdylan_, totem stinks for that02:18
dylan_avalost, i dont like mplayer...it installs too many things02:18
dylan_avalost, i just want totem-xine to do it...can you help?02:18
avalostdylan_, I would suggest using mplayer or gmplayer.. and mozplugger helps02:18
dylan_avalost, whats gmplayer?02:19
vbgunzavalost: how do i escape a man page? I am at the end of chmod man *but* I can't close it inline? possible?02:19
avalostdylan_, gmplayer is the graphical version of mplayer02:19
avalostvbgunz, q02:19
avalosthit q02:19
vbgunzavalost: thanks :P02:19
avalostnp02:19
vbgunzavalost: one question before I do this. How do I get a definitive list of possible numbers like 555, 755, etc?02:20
hwaarawhat developer package do I need in order to get XSelectInput, XNextEvent, XFree, etc.? I get a building error when building Thunderbird.02:20
avalostdylan_, mplayer offers the best vid support of any multimedia player out there, "installing too many things" should be an easy compromise02:20
dylan_avalost, i dont want it to install xmms with it02:20
Seveashwaara, apt-get build-dep thunderbird02:20
Seveas(or better: apt-get install thunderbird ;))02:20
avalostvbgunz, http://google.com/linux search chmod / permissions02:21
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hwaaraSeveas, but I'm building the source :)02:21
avalostdylan_, you don't need to install xmms02:21
vbgunzdude, google is too easy, I am trying to make it hard ;)02:21
dylan_avalost, but it installs xmms with mplayer02:21
aftertaflol02:21
Seveashwaara, apt-get build-dep drags in all build dependencies02:21
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avalostvbgunz, you could potentially use any number.. it's all about your dmask and what-have-you02:22
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hwaaraSeveas, wow that's neat02:22
avalostI never thought xmms was a dep of mplayer.02:22
avalostI can't see why it is02:22
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avalostit's probably a plugin you're talking about02:23
hwaaraSeveas, "could not find a source package for thunderbird"02:23
hwaaradoes it really recognize "thunderbird" ?02:23
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Seveas!info thunderbird02:23
avalostand what's wrong with xmms anyway?02:23
dylan_avalost, no, it installs xmms with it...i dont want it to02:24
dylan_avalost, i have Rhythmbox02:24
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Seveashmm, only mozilla-thunderbird is known02:24
avalostdylan_, the do apt-get remove xmms after02:24
hwaaraSeveas, I am trying to build from the trunk.   ok, I'll try that02:24
vbgunzavalost, I just ran chmod 755 /home/thunderbird -R and I believe this didn't just affect folders but files also, correct?02:24
dylan_avalost, then it removes mplayer02:24
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vbgunzevery file now has 755 to it, is this a security risk?02:24
avalostdylan_, are you really tight on space?02:24
avalostvbgunz, yes02:25
avalostdefinitely02:25
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dylan_avalost, no but i dont want a lot of apps02:25
avalostdylan_, compile mplayer from source then02:25
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dylan_oh god02:25
dylan_no way02:25
avalostotherwise deal with xmms02:25
dylan_im not doin that02:25
WhyvasLTcan someone suggest good fast software to convert avis to vcds ??02:25
kbrooksSeveas: mozilla-thunderbird02:25
kbrooks!info mozilla-thunderbird02:25
vbgunzman, I blew myself out of the water then... I only did this to Thunderbird, should I uninstall/reinstall?02:25
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 10638 kB, Installed size: 31136 kB02:26
kbrooks!info mozilla-thunderbird breezy02:26
dylan_avalost, couldnt you just pointed me towards the direction of totem-xine?  i like that more02:26
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 10092 kB, Installed size: 30432 kB02:26
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hwaaraSeveas, ok it found a bunch of new packages. heh, autoconf..?? I think I have that.02:26
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hwaaraSeveas, I'll try installing it all and see if it magically solves my problem.  thanks!02:26
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kbrookshwaara:02:26
kbrooks!info mozilla-thunderbird breezy02:26
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 10092 kB, Installed size: 30432 kB02:26
avalostvbgunz, you could just rm -rf the dir and next time you run it it will recreate the files02:26
avalostunless you have stuff saved you want02:26
kbrooksmozilla-thunderbird not thunderbird02:27
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hwaarakbrooks, thanks02:27
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vbgunznah, I actually just migrated a Windows profile in which I already have in a Windows partition *backedup*...02:27
hwaarakbrooks, that's what I am using now. it seems to download and install a bunch of stuff.02:27
hwaaraI can't understand how apt-get knows every package  :)02:27
avalostall right, replacing it should be fine then02:27
Skidw 1802:27
vbgunzso I do a rremove recursive with force... and this will automatically reinstall every missing file for thunderbird at the correct permissions?02:28
damo21Seveas: how can i fix msttcorefonts, it cant find the default download location for andale32.exe02:28
avalostvbgunz, if you do a rm on it, next time you run thunderbird the defaults will be recrated02:28
Hobbseewhich graphics cards work better with linux (ie easier to customise and/or work out of the box) - ATI or Nvidia?02:28
avalostotherwise you will have to restore it to the way you had it before02:28
damo21Hobbsee: NVIDIA!!!!02:28
aftertafimho nvidia02:28
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Hobbseeright, cool02:29
Hobbsee:)02:29
Hobbseei could get a new desktop for $1300 aussie including monitor, that's not bad lol!02:29
damo21Hobbsee: im fed up with ati drivers02:29
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vbgunzavalost, ok, so then I only need to know one thing... When I copy my files from Windows to Linux, how do I insure, they don't all come with the lock? It makes no sense to me and I don't know why Linux does this... I mean, I should at least own them and do *but* cannot write to them :P02:29
WhyvasLTim fed up with nobody answering my question02:29
Hobbseelol right (makes mental note not to get ati)02:29
damo21Hobbsee: considering flogging off my 9800pro for an nvidia card02:30
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Hobbseenot a bad idea02:30
Hobbseedo the nvidia cards work otu of the box, or do i still have to compile something for them?02:30
aftertafalways work to do........02:30
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damo21Hobbsee: i think they still need binary drivers for best performance, but at least they are provided on nvidia website02:31
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Hobbseedamo21: nice, very nice.  and they cant be included due to licencing, presumably?02:31
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HobbseeWhyvasLT: what was your question, i cant see it...02:32
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damo21Hobbsee: i suppose so02:32
aftertafor restricted modules for the nvidia binaries....02:32
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mike__How do i set up software raid on ubuntu? I want to boot from a mirror raid array02:32
kbrooksHobbsee: they are included02:32
Hobbseekbrooks: excellent!02:32
damo21oh cool02:32
kbrooksrestricted modules02:32
Hobbseei'd probably only upgrade around the time of dapper or so02:32
kbrooksnvidia-glx02:32
Hobbseeah yep02:32
dbugafter install xfce, when remove GDM i don't go have problems on start ?02:32
limguohong91How do i install bruses for The Gimp?02:32
kbrooksat least, in thoery02:32
limguohong91*brushes02:32
damo21how do u remove gdm and just use xfce02:33
aftertafnvidia-glx is legacy, i think...02:33
Hobbseelegacy?02:33
aftertafrestrictedmods & nvidia driver is ok.!02:33
Hobbsee*nods*02:33
avalostvbgunz, because the windows permissions are different.. you'll need to assign the proper permissions to the files02:33
dbugdamo21, i can't remove GDM ?02:33
aftertafyeah. i havea gf4 at home, and put the restricted mods package for my kernel, then put nvidia a=in xorg and it just *worked*02:33
damo21dbug: i dont know i was asking02:34
Hobbseecool02:34
aftertafgo breezy :)02:34
avalostdbug, why remove GDM?02:34
Hobbseedefinetly go breezy.02:34
dbugdamo21,  i want remove all gnome to stay just with xfce02:34
damo21dbug: i would like to do the same02:35
Hobbseei shall hope for just works just works without having to change xorg in dapper, then02:35
avalosterr damo21 GDM is a display manager, xfce is a WINDOW manager, you need a display manager to run a window manager02:35
damo21oh ok :D02:35
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dbugavalost, my pc is to slowfor gnome02:35
avalostdbug, so just run xfce, GDM won't slow it down and xdm is pretty generic..02:36
damo21dbug: leave gdm just use xfce as window manager like i am02:36
avalostI run gdm with fluxbox and e1702:36
aftertafor try kde, its pretty good on slow systems too.....02:36
lucaasavalost, you dont need a display manager02:36
damo21e17?02:37
avalostKDE is not good for slow machines02:37
dbugcan i remove all gnome execpt GDM and xfce gonna works fine ?02:37
aftertafenlightenment02:37
Toma-xdm is the bomb02:37
vbgunzavalost, I will have to learn more... I really don't know what to do other than copy the profile from Windows into it's own directory, run chmod, there and then copy over to the final thunderbird directory... Otherwise I really don't know about Linux security. i am new to it and don't wish to bother too much about it. I'll try to learn it instead :P02:37
aftertafavalost:  depends on definotion of slow. i have a PIII 50002:37
avalostlucaas, uhh how can you run a wm without a dm?02:37
lucaasyou could do startx02:37
avalostvbgunz, mozilla.org should have some documentation02:37
lucaasand have a .xinitrc, or whatever it was called02:37
aftertafbut there are lighter WMs around, its knowing how to use them ...02:37
avalostlucaas, if you 'startx' it will load your default DM02:38
avalostotherwise XDM02:38
Hobbseeaftertaf: another shameless plug for kde there lol02:38
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lucaasavalost, yes, i dont see the problem with that?02:38
lucaasah, sorry02:38
avalostlucaas, you're missing the point02:38
vbgunzavalost, ya, I will go there too *but* i think I just have to grow a bit more familiar with how Linux does things first L)02:38
damo21i am looking for a simple WM for development, with opengl02:38
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avalostvbgunz, prolly a good idea02:39
lucaasavalost, you can configure what startx starts02:39
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vbgunzavalost: :)02:39
avalostdamo21, there are plenty out them02:39
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avalostlucaas, point is: every WM needs a DM02:39
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damo21fvwm looks nice, but i dont have time to write a fancy .fvwmrc file :P02:40
HrdwrBobon what planet does fvwm look nice02:40
avalostif you were to run any wm without installing a proprietary DM it would start the generic XDM02:40
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lucaasavalost, no, they dont02:40
limguohong91How do i install my brushes for The Gimp?02:40
lucaasor am i complitly lost here?02:40
HrdwrBobavalost: you don't need a display manager02:40
lucaasah, ok02:40
HrdwrBobyou can simply start X from the command like02:40
lucaas:>02:40
HrdwrBobline02:40
HrdwrBobthough a display manager is highly recommended02:40
damo21HrdwrBob: "nice" means runs fast and efficient for dev02:41
avalostHrdwrBob, next time you try that from the command line do ps -aux and look for a DM02:41
avalostI guarantee you'll find one running02:41
HrdwrBobavalost: trust me on this02:41
avalostwhether it be xdm, kdm, gdm or otherwise02:41
HrdwrBobthere is no display manager02:41
HrdwrBobit uses xinit02:41
HrdwrBobcalled from startx02:42
StylusEater_WorkHrdwrBob: are you silly?02:42
HrdwrBobStylusEater_Work: no, I'm very serious02:42
damo21HrdwrBob: i thought xdm is default02:42
avalostbob is delusional02:42
StylusEater_WorkHrdwrBob: there has to be a dm02:42
HrdwrBobno, there does not.02:42
HrdwrBobyou can simply run X by itslef02:42
avalostXDM is the generic DM shipped with xfree or xorg02:43
HrdwrBobavalost: yes it is02:43
HrdwrBobdamo21: in ubuntu gdm is the default02:43
kbrooksbut02:43
kbrooksyu can run x by itself02:43
kbrooksuse .xinitrc02:44
kbrooksand startx02:44
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damo21yeah u can, i know because u can use it to launch fvwm they do that at uni02:44
avalostgah, I give up02:45
lucaasi belive it is as HrdwrBob says, as i said before02:45
HrdwrBobgood, because you have no idea what you're talking about02:45
avalostok, believe what you want02:45
HrdwrBobit's not a matter of belief02:45
avalostobviously it is.02:45
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lemics_but X alone is ugly02:45
HrdwrBobI've been using linux and X since 199602:45
avalostthen you've been wrong for a long time02:45
damo21everyone has a custom .xinitrc file and it works02:45
Toma-however... the startup scripts will call for a dm by default. you'd have to mess with the startup scripts to go straight to startx02:45
kbrookslemics_: "X alone"02:45
kbrookslemics_: its ugly02:45
kbrooksadmittely02:45
HrdwrBobhahahaha02:45
HrdwrBobseriously, this sort of misinformation is what puts people off02:45
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avalostyes, and you're contributing to it02:45
HrdwrBoba display manager is very useful02:45
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HrdwrBobbut it's not required even remotely02:45
thoreauputicStylusEater_Work: if you do a bare install and add x-window-system-core, there's no DM at all -you use startx or xinit02:45
thoreauputicplus ~/.xsession usually02:45
StylusEater_Workyou can run gnome without a dm? haha!02:45
StylusEater_Workno way02:45
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StylusEater_Workat least not in my experience02:45
HrdwrBoblemics_: X alone is nothing02:45
thoreauputicwow I'm lagging like anything...02:45
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HrdwrBobStylusEater_Work: yes, you can.02:45
avalostthoreauputic, why does startx always call xdm by default?02:45
HrdwrBobavalost: it doesn't02:45
HrdwrBobavalost: startx calls xinit02:45
thoreauputicavalost: it doesn't02:45
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avalosti've done heaps of debian netinstalls, and everytime I get x installed xdm is the default dm02:46
avalostusing .xinitrc02:46
thoreauputicavalost: *cough*02:46
kbrooksavalost: xinit runs .xinitrc02:46
kbrooksavalost: what dont you understand?02:46
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thoreauputicavalost: you have no idea how this works , evidently02:46
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avalostok, i'm wrong02:46
kbrooksHrdwrBob: have you noticed awful lag?02:46
HrdwrBobkbrooks: yes but most of that's been from my retarded work link :)02:47
avalosti've just always, always had xdm start02:47
thoreauputicactually in debian distros you use .xsession for preference (either works OK)02:47
HrdwrBobavalost: I assure you I understand HOW these things work02:47
HrdwrBoband that xdm is not at all required02:47
thoreauputickbrooks: the net is not well today methinks02:47
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HrdwrBobif you would like, I can explain02:47
kbrooksHrdwrBob: go on02:47
HrdwrBobin #ubuntu-offtopic02:48
kbrooksfull detail02:48
HrdwrBobit's really not relevant here02:48
avalostNah, i'm good, i get the point02:48
thoreauputicavalost: if you do a sever install with x-window-system-core, you don't get xdm02:48
StylusEater_Workhrdwrbob: i'd like to hear and I'm now in ubuntu-offtopic02:48
thoreauputic*server02:48
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damo21does anyone have a nice .fvwmrc skeleton file i can use :P02:48
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avalostthoreauputic, looking at the script I use for net installs, I added xdm to the apt-get list, my mistake02:49
thoreauputicavalost: that's OK - it's all learning - I ran debian for ages without a dm so I knew this stuff, that's all02:50
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mypapitdm02:51
Rendyno one from id ?02:51
Rendy:o02:51
mypapitrejden, id?02:51
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mypapitRendy, id?02:51
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rejdenmypapit, id?02:51
Rendyi wanna ask about ubuntu02:51
Rendyyes02:51
kbrooksask it02:51
rejdenwhat with it02:51
kbrookshere02:51
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rejdenso go ahead and ask02:51
kbrooksRendy: ask your question02:52
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=== Rendy buy linux CD n i wanna up load it in my com...
Myrtti/me pulls out her wizard hat02:52
Rendybut my com didn't accept it02:52
Rendygrrr02:52
ameerhi guys plss help me with this02:52
Hobbseechange the bios to boot from cd before the hard drive?02:52
Hobbseeameer: dont ask to ask, just ask02:52
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ameeranyone know how to play this url in ubuntu or kubuntu mms://vom.dhivehinet.net.mv:106902:53
ameerthanks02:53
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[wiebel] mplayer mms://vom.dhivehinet.net.mv:106902:53
damo21how come msttcorefonts cant find the default download location02:53
damo21in dpkg02:53
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ameerthanks wiebel02:53
steigweisthis is annoying: "send to" in the contextmenu of nautilus has evolution as default but i want to send with thunderbird... tb is already my major mailprogram. how can i set it in the nautilusmenu also?02:53
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ubuntu_hello some one here ?02:54
[wiebel] steigweis: system -> prefs -> preferded apps02:54
fredforfaenyep02:54
onkarshindeIs it possible to move /usr and /home to new bigger partition? how?02:54
[wiebel] sure02:54
steigweis[wiebel] : doesnt work02:54
ubuntu_hoary is the unstable ubuntu ?02:54
Toma-onkarshinde: yep.02:54
[wiebel] link it afterwards02:54
[wiebel] :>02:54
ubuntu_hoary is the unstable ubuntu ?02:54
[wiebel] no02:54
[wiebel] breezy is02:54
fredforfaenubuntu_ no02:55
ubuntu_argh02:55
ubuntu_someone can u link me02:55
onkarshindeToma-: How?02:55
wickedpuppyubuntu_, hoary is stable ... breezy is unstable ... soon to be stable02:55
ubuntu_breezy iso link ?02:55
damo21how do you edit a package description to change a url inside the package02:55
wickedpuppyubotu, ubuntulinux.com02:55
ubotuwickedpuppy: Do they come in packets of five?02:55
onkarshindewickedpuppy: it is .org02:55
wickedpuppyoh lol02:55
Toma-onkarshinde: it involves modifying fstab so that they are mounted as /usr and /home on boot. google can help further02:55
wickedpuppyk ubuntulinux.org02:56
onkarshindeToma-: As simple as that?02:56
Toma-onkarshinde: and obviously moving all the content to the new partitions02:56
onkarshindeToma-: Thanks.02:56
Toma-no problem02:56
onkarshindeOne more question. Is it possible to do dist-upgrade by using CD?02:56
fredforfaenonkarshinde it sould be02:57
Toma-if you setup the CD as a repo, sure02:57
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CookedGryphonhi02:57
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CookedGryphondoes anyone know anything about the clemson version of ubuntu?02:58
az[a] zelwhat to people use to burn DVD/CD's here? I just discovered that nautilus blows02:58
az[a] zels/to/do02:58
Singaporeclemson yeah...02:58
CookedGryphonbecause i've tried to install the repositories, and most things download, but not maple02:58
wickedpuppyonkarshinde, whats the difference between .com and .org ?02:58
Toma-az[a] zel: k3b..02:58
fistros4que pacha?02:58
ubuntu_o tu coso02:58
ubuntu_dico a te..02:58
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ubuntu_fregno co le baffe02:58
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az[a] zelToma-, means pulling in half of KDE :/02:58
fistros4fregno rirora02:58
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Toma-az[a] zel: yeh :( but it is the best02:58
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Strike4ceI have an ubuntu install cd how can I install and keep my current version of windows?02:59
onkarshindewickedpuppy: I don't know.02:59
CookedGryphoncan anyone hear me?02:59
fistros4eo02:59
CookedGryphonanyone here?02:59
andooryeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee02:59
fistros4oe02:59
fistros4eoe02:59
fistros4oeoeoe02:59
Singaporeok, mapple on clemson...02:59
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onkarshindeaz[a] zel: gnome-baker, in the universe repo02:59
wickedpuppy....02:59
lucaas:)02:59
andoorfideputees!!02:59
wickedpuppyStrike4ce, you got to dual boot02:59
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Strike4ceI have an ubuntu install cd how can I install and keep my current version of windows?02:59
LP_hello02:59
Strike4ceis that on the install cd?03:00
LP_i've just installed ubuntu03:00
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onkarshindeStrike4ce: Have you made a partition for Ubuntu?03:00
SeveasStrike4ce, the installer will detect windows and give you the option to preserve it03:00
Strike4ceno what can I use to make a partition?03:00
LP_its working in command line but i have problems : server x doesn't start03:00
HobbseeStrike4ce: the ubuntu installer03:00
LP_what can i do about it ?03:00
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onkarshindeStrike4ce: Ubuntu installer can resize your existing partition03:01
Toma-errrr he'd have to make free space first.....03:01
Strike4ceoh so it will keep windows as the primary?03:01
onkarshindeLP_: What is problem exactly?03:01
SeveasStrike4ce, if you tell it to :)03:01
Toma-make sure you defrag your drive first Strike4ce if youre using windows on a fat32 drive03:01
Strike4cewill it ask me?03:01
CookedGryphondoes anyone here have any experience of the clemson ubuntu distro?03:01
Strike4cenfts and yes already defragged03:01
Toma-Strike4ce: good werk ;)03:02
LP_Onkarshinde : i cannot start the graphic window03:02
orehonStrike4ce cfdisk ?03:02
CookedGryphoncos i tried adding the extra repositories, and downlaod a few things alright, but then when i try to download maple it comes up 403 forbidden03:02
wickedpuppyCookedGryphon, clemson ?03:02
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CookedGryphonand it doens't say anythign on the site about having to pay or anything03:02
CookedGryphonso i dont getit03:02
onkarshindeLP_: Did you rebooted into some other OS before first time booting into Ubuntu?03:02
Strike4ceDo i have to put the command in to keep windows or will it ask me?03:02
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orehonCookedGryphon maybe the repositories was offline! or broken03:02
johnsie2khi... what is some good peer2peer software for ubuntu?03:02
Toma-LP_: "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log" what does the (EE) line say?03:03
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marcellusI am dist-upgrading my breezy and libapache2-mod-perl2 has this change in /etc/apache2/mods-available/perl.conf  -PerlModule Apache2 +# Hi mom!    What gives?03:03
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LP_onkar: no Toma: i go to try it right now03:03
CookedGryphonhello?03:03
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CookedGryphonanyone here? damni can't see anyone typing03:03
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Mercutio150Ok back for more help...03:03
Strike4cewhen it asks me about windows do I need to put in a special command?03:03
id_sonicWho can send me a notebook?03:03
vengefullol03:04
wickedpuppy... notebook ?03:04
lemics_the FBI03:04
Strike4ceor is it pretty simple?03:04
onkarshindeStrike4ce: No command.03:04
Mercutio150I cannot find the decoders for wmv files, anyone help me out??03:04
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id_sonicwickedpuppy will you ?03:04
johnsie2kmerc they are on a website now03:04
wickedpuppyStrike4ce, pls backup everything first though ...03:04
lemics_watch your pr0ns on windows :)03:04
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Toma-!w32codecs03:04
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)03:04
wickedpuppyid_sonic, sure .. you want a4 size ?03:04
ameerwhen i write this command it says couldnt find sudo apt-get install mplayer-38603:04
Strike4ceso it will prompt me and I just need to answer yes to keep windows and then it will make my pc a dual boot system?03:04
ameerplss help me03:05
id_sonicwickedpuppy yes~03:05
WhyvasLTid_sonic, i can send you one03:05
onkarshindeameer: No need of 38603:05
ameerthanks03:05
id_sonicWhyvasLT really?03:05
onkarshindeameer: sudo apt-get -f install mplayer03:05
KhantozavriHi folks, i'm having hard time mounting windows shares, it tells me "client signing mandatory"...03:05
WhyvasLTid_sonic, yeah man03:05
WhyvasLTid_sonic, just send me some money03:05
necronudistwah...too caos here03:06
LP_Toma : tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log says : no such file or directory03:06
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id_sonicWhyvasLT : How much?03:06
Khantozavrii know that cifs should fix this, and tried this on the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230603:06
Toma-hmm03:06
ameerit says couldnt find package03:06
WhyvasLT1399$03:06
Khantozavrihowever, now when i use sudo mount -a it tells me that frong fs type... what can i do?03:06
Toma-LP_: is Xorg installed?03:06
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id_sonicWhyvasLT OK03:06
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LP_how can i find out ?03:06
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Toma-try running "X"03:07
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Toma-or even "Xorg"03:07
id_sonicWhyvasLT like this::  sudo apt-get install $139903:07
LP_Toma- : startx ?03:07
Toma-yeh that too03:07
vieirarHi is apt-get dist-upgrade safe right know or will it upgrade a bunch of unstable apps. I would like to upgrade to breezy03:07
id_sonic~~03:07
anthonyHey, I installed the lastest version Sun Java Runtime 1.5.0 as accorded to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java; but when I do "java -version" it still says 1.4.2. Any ideas?03:07
aftertafvieirar:  99.99% safe03:07
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WhyvasLTyes03:08
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LP_Toma: it says : command not found03:08
Khantozavrianyone on cifs?03:08
somniumhi @all03:08
id_sonicWhyvasLT =)03:08
Toma-LP_: you have no X.03:08
necronudistsorry...does anyone have a notebook HP Pavilion zv6181ea?03:08
WhyvasLTanthony, reboot03:08
vieiraraftertaf: Thanks.. I always know there are some risks but I know for awhile debian was in transistion03:08
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anthonyWhyvastLT: Okay, let me give that a try.03:08
Toma-LP_: did install finish? or did it mess up?03:08
somniumwhat about the breezy iptables-package?? module libipt_recent is missing?!?!?03:08
blueskiesdoes anyone know how i might get my video to work right i am only getting 640x480 .. have ATI Rage 128 video?03:08
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LP_Toma: it says install was ok and started looking for new packages than said there is a problem with xfree8603:09
Toma-blueskies: install the ati drivers03:09
id_sonicI don't like the prosser "gam_server"03:09
blueskieswhere do i get them ?03:09
steigweisthis is annoying: "send to" in the contextmenu of nautilus has evolution as default but i want to send with thunderbird... tb is already my "preffered mail application". how can i make nautilus to sent to thunderbird? (nautilus 2.10.1)03:09
az[a] zelhmm, gnome-baker needs work.. bah.. i'm just going to install k3b03:09
necronudistblueskies guess03:09
Toma-LP_: xfree86 is what you need installed03:09
LP_Toma: I'm sorry to asks but how can i do this ?03:10
aftertafblueskies!!!!!!!03:10
aftertaf!ati03:10
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx03:10
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Toma-apt-get install xfree68-server i guess03:10
Toma-im using Xorg here03:10
aftertafwho is talking about xfree86? we are using xorg here people03:10
aftertafubuntu uses xorg03:10
necronudistme, i've got an ati x200 who doesn't works with any driver :D03:10
Toma-aftertaf: well his installer is complaing about xfree03:10
necronudistyou lucky03:10
somniumwhere or how can i make a bugreport for a breezy-package???03:10
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aftertafsomnium:  bugzilla.ubuntu.org03:11
markusHi. How do I verify all installed packets, if all files are unharmed? I have a lot of stuff in /lost+found and want to reinstall the harmed packages.03:11
markusdpkg -C outputs nothing03:11
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somniumaftertaf: thx... but i don't know if its a bug :-/03:12
aftertafToma-:  LP_ what installer???03:12
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aftertafsomnium:  search there and see... or ask here ;)03:12
Toma-"LP_ Toma: it says install was ok and started looking for new packages than said there is a problem with xfree86"03:12
orehonsomnium go to google.com and search about it03:12
ameeris ubuntu or redhat more stable03:12
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aftertafsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg should install base x packages and remove xfree03:12
Toma-im guessing post-install?03:12
id_sonic_id_sonic w03:12
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Toma-ameer: redhat... or fedora?03:13
aftertafToma-:  oh ok... really from the cd?03:13
orehonaftertaf no... this command will not remove xfree03:13
Toma-aftertaf: not sure, didnt ask that03:13
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johnsie2kinstalling updates has stopped in the middle of installing something... what should I do?03:13
LP_Toma + Aftertaf : apt says : command not found03:13
ameertoma: ubuntu and redhat03:13
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orehonjohnsie2k start again... no problem!03:14
johnsie2kuhhh how do i close the window03:14
anthonyHey, I just posted this but I installed Java Runtime 1.5.0, but after reboot, when I do "java -version" it still says 1.4.2, any idea? I'm using Breezy.03:14
Toma-LP_: you dnt have apt-get either?03:14
somniumaftertaf: on bugzilla there is no such bug...  and google doesn't know it, too. but we have checked it four times... it is a bug ;-)03:14
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LP_Toma : it seems like not even if i don't understand as at the end of the install it did connect to servers to do updates03:14
somniumany developers inside?03:14
Toma-LP_: re-install03:15
orehonjohnsie2k hm... use ps aux | grep processname ... get the pid and kill using # kill -9 pidnumber03:15
somniumorehon: no such bug on bugzilla or google....03:15
orehonanthony remove all and install java runtime 1.5.003:16
LP_Toma : ok thanks . i was afraid so :(03:16
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Toma-LP_: it'll be easier for everyone this way :) ALSO, check the media for errors. u could have a damaged install cd03:16
aftertafsomnium:  what is the pb?03:16
orehonsomnium hm.. then post for then... goto ubuntu.org or goto ubuntu's forum!03:16
anthonyorehon: I'm not familiar with Linux yet, could you tell me how to go about uninstalling all of the Java components and which specific packages you want me to uninstall?03:17
nanielo03:17
LP_Toma : ok. what do you mean by check the media exactly ?03:17
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Toma-check for burn errors/scratches, etc03:17
LP_Toma : ok. thanks03:17
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orehonanthony: what's ur linux distro? ubuntu?03:18
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BiSK-8hello03:18
anthonyorehon: Ubuntu 5.10 RC03:18
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BiSK-8when i try 2 play a file with totem it sais: There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/bisk8/Articolo%2031%20-%20Tocca%20Qui.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins      what should i do?03:18
somniumaftertaf: there is a lib missing in iptables... /lib/iptables/libipt_recent.so is missing...03:19
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BiSK-8oops03:19
orehonok... wait... just a minute... i'm working... and a so boring client it's here !03:19
Seveas!tell BiSK-8 about mp303:19
aftertaffile a bug then....03:19
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LP_Toma : is it possible to install from the live cd ?03:19
somniumaftertaf: i compiled the package myself an i've got the module in my kernel... but he won't compile thar lib :-/03:19
Toma-nope03:19
johnsie2k!mplayer03:19
ubotuit has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106103:19
Toma-technically, yes, but no.03:20
johnsie2k!w32codecs03:20
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)03:20
gohMay I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom03:20
BiSK-8seveas, it was a aptitude camand... can u tell me the command?03:20
anthonyorehon: Ok np, when ever you are available.03:20
orehonanthony try it!03:21
orehonaptitude install build-essential java-package java-common fakeroot03:21
orehonfakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin03:21
SeveasBiSK-8, aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad may work03:21
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aftertafahhhh. no can help somnium :/03:21
ProN00blolololol03:21
orehonthen03:21
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orehonanthony03:21
orehonsudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update03_i386.deb03:21
orehonsudo update-alternatives --config java03:21
orehonsudo ln -f /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /etc/alternatives/netscape-javaplugin.so03:21
anthonyorehon: K, got it, trying it out now.03:22
orehondo it and report some problem!03:22
orehonok03:22
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LP_Toma : ok i'll try again with the install cd then ;)03:25
johnsie2ksudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla wont get flashplayer for moxilla03:25
ProN00bi got a lil problem here, if i plugin my usb mp3 player (usb mass storage device) and load new songs on it remove some and plug it out it works perfectly, i can play everything i loaded on it and everything i removed is gone, but if i turn it off then and turn it on later the player finds no song on it through everything seems to be ok and on there for ubuntu if i plug it in again03:25
Toma-cool03:25
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{Mike}if I have compiled a module, and have a .ko file in my home directory, where do I put it so I can modprobe it by name?03:26
Seveas/lib/modules/`uname -r`03:27
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{Mike}doesn't work03:28
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lon3treeanyone can help me with pptp and pptpclient?03:28
hwaarahey Seveas and kbrooks, I still get the same build error when building mozilla/thunderbird. It's complaining about undefined XRemoteClient, XChangeProperty, XFree, XOpenDisplay, etc.  Ring a bell? :)03:28
{Mike}m249 modules # find | grep abit03:28
hyphenated{Mike}: you need to do a /sbin/depmod -a after putting new stuff there03:29
{Mike}./2.6.13/extra/abituguru.ko03:29
Seveashwaara, did you do the apt-get build-dep trick?03:29
{Mike}cool cheers03:29
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morten0609hello - I have a problem with viewing web pages on Breezy - does this page: www.bogguiden.dk look like crap on your computers too?03:29
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hwaaraSeveas, yes03:29
{Mike}hyphenated: works, cheers03:29
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anthonyorehon: Woot! Thanks a lot, the sudo update-alternatives --config java did the trick, just had to change the default java runtime path. Thanks a bunch!03:29
morten0609it looks fine on Windows - on the same browser version (Firefox 1.0.7)03:29
Seveasmorten0609, yeah, top left is borked03:29
hwaaraSeveas, maybe I should do it for the whole of mozilla, since it's basically the same03:29
Mercutio150how do I install the codecs I just downlaoded?03:29
morten0609yeah - and the text is supoosed to be white too03:30
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morten0609I filed this as a bug, but they do not believe it to be Ubuntu-specific03:30
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onkarshindeMercutio150: what codecs?03:30
Mercutio150I downloaded the w32 codecs to play wmv files03:30
hyphenatedProN00b: interesting. do you just unplug it? can you choose a "safely remove" option instead?03:31
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morten0609but it looks like this on all Ubuntu browsers afaik03:31
onkarshindeMercutio150: 'sudo dpkg --install filename.deb'03:31
orehonanthony ok.. thks !03:31
Seveashow did you download them/what is the file they're in called?03:31
Mercutio150ok thanks03:31
Tb0n3question: how do you unlink a file03:31
Seveasmorten0609, probably the 'designers' of that site made it look good in IE and don't care about other bro\wsers03:32
hyphenatedTb0n3: with the 'unlink' command03:32
BiSK-8seveas, i tried.... it wont work.... ubotu gave me the link but it wasnt useful..... what can i do for totem codecs?03:32
morten0609no, cuz it looks fine in all browsers on windows03:32
SeveasTb0n3, unlink filename03:32
morten0609including firefox03:32
Tb0n3seriously?03:32
Tb0n3...03:32
SeveasBiSK-8, did you install totem-xine?03:32
orehonSeveas yeah.. it's so normal! and i hate all this fuckin' designers!03:32
hyphenatedTb0n3: can you rephrase the question with some overall goal?03:32
hyphenatedTb0n3: because calling unlink on it directly is usually not what you want :-)03:33
morten0609I don't think it is a design flaw, it only looks like this on my Linux computer03:33
BiSK-8seveas.... i think so but there seems 2 be a problem... the apt-get is acting wierd since breezy came out03:33
Toma-morten0609: press ctrl - a few times03:33
Seveasmorten0609, try firefox on windows...03:33
Toma-or ctrl +03:33
ProN00bhyphenated, didn't see one03:33
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SeveasBiSK-8, describe 'weird'?03:33
Alex_Cim trying to use the blackdown java 1.4 installer, but it doesnt work, any suggestions?03:33
BiSK-8seveas, alot of things r missing and some dont work03:33
Seveasand if you use totem-xine you need w32codecs03:33
Tb0n3I used the ls -s command to link a file to another folder so I could activate java, but it doesn't seem to be working, I want to undo it and try again03:33
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hyphenatedProN00b: does an icon appear on your desktop when you plug it in?03:34
Toma-morten0609: just a different default font size i do elieve03:34
Tb0n3and it'd basicly be good knowledge03:34
BiSK-8seveas, im on hoary03:34
Seveasgoes for hoary too03:34
onkarshindeTb0n3: Why don't you just rm that file?03:34
hyphenatedTb0n3: ah. there's a big difference between unlinking a file and removing a link :-) you want 'rm' instead03:34
Tb0n3k03:34
orehonhyphenated what are u want?03:34
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orehonhyphenated just unlink a file?03:35
hyphenatedorehon: not me03:35
Alex_Cim trying to use the blackdown java 1.4 installer, but it doesnt work, any suggestions?03:35
BiSK-8seveas, Il pacchetto totem-xine non ha versioni disponibili, ma .03:35
BiSK-8Questo significa che il pacchetto  diventato obsoleto on disponibile all'interno da un'altra sorgente03:35
BiSK-8E: Il pacchetto totem-xine non ha candidati da installare03:35
BiSK-8bisk8@bisk8:~$03:35
BiSK-8   this means that the package totem.xine hase become obsolete03:35
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SeveasBiSK-8, NEVER paste in here03:35
BiSK-8sorry03:35
morten0609nope, that's only one of the problems - colors are wrong too, I do not think it uses the CSS at all03:35
Hoxzer^how do I eject CDrom with command line?03:35
SeveasBiSK-8, put your sources.list on the pastebin03:35
SeveasHoxzer^, ejectg03:36
hyphenatedHoxzer^: 'eject' usually works03:36
Seveaseject03:36
Toma-morten0609: looks fine here...03:36
ProN00bdidn't think of that, hyphenated, plugging it out might really fuck it up on ubuntu *_* they should include that save remove as well as the eject cd options visible in the nautilus window03:36
Strike4ceok i started the install but backed out when it came to the partition part it said my minumum size was 48.6gb?03:36
AlphaFactionhey all, what do you gyes think the best id3 tag editor is to deal with a whole stack of albums? Ive tried cow bell but it seems a bit unstable03:36
orehonhyphenated who?03:36
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Strike4cedoes that mean it will make a partition that size for ubuntu?03:36
Toma-AlphaFaction: xmms03:36
hyphenatedorehon: I was responding to a question, not asking one03:36
BiSK-8sevas, where is the sources.list?03:36
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vbgunzI have a question... If I wanted to stay on the completely supported side of Ubuntu I should *not* enable these links in /etc/apt/sources correct? : breezy main universe multiverse restricted, breezy-security main restricted, breezy-security universe03:37
AlphaFactionToma-: a plug in for it or somthing? or can it do bulk id3 tag renaming now?03:37
morten0609Toma, is the text in the left column white?03:37
orehonhyphenated ok.. sorry! =/ but mu english is so sux! i'm from brazil! sorry!03:37
SeveasBiSK-8, /etc/apt/sources.list03:37
BiSK-8sevas, is it /etc/apt/sources.list=03:37
Strike4ceok i started the install but backed out when it came to the partition part it said my minumum size was 48.6gb?03:37
Tomcat_vbgunz: These are alright, you can enable them...03:37
BiSK-8ok03:37
hyphenatedProN00b: probably. the "safely remove" type of thing will sync the data to memory, force it to write more permanently and so on03:37
Seveasorehon, #ubuntu-br :)03:37
Alex_Ccan anyone see wat im typing?03:37
BiSK-8sevas, and where do i got a new 1?03:37
Hoxzer^Lol03:37
Toma-AlphaFaction: bulk... eep. not sure if one exists.. what do u need to do?03:37
orehonBiSK-8 /etc/apt/sources.list03:37
Hoxzer^I cannot eject my first CDrom03:37
Toma-morten0609: yes03:37
Hoxzer^:( it ejects only the second03:37
Toma-morten0609: want a screenshot?03:37
SeveasBiSK-8, put it on the pastebin first :)03:37
Strike4ceanyone help?03:38
Tomcat_vbgunz: However, some of those repositories are not maintained by Canonical, only by a bunch of Open Source guys :)03:38
hyphenatedProN00b: it's worth a try. you can try to manually sync it with the 'sync' command03:38
BiSK-8sevas, what's the delete comand ?03:38
Hoxzer^it does it with eject cdrom0 and cdrom103:38
Seveas!tell vbgunz zbout repos03:38
morten0609Toma: whoa! and you are using breezy03:38
morten0609?03:38
vbgunzI mean, if I just enable the first two, I'll be ok and won't be missing much correct? I am new to Linux and would like to keep Ubuntu as stable as possible without worrying about extra goodies03:38
orehonSeveas oh thks...03:38
ProN00bhyphenated, there is only umount03:38
AlphaFactionToma-: got 300 albums half of which have stuffed id3 tags and to do them all by hand would be a mission03:38
Tomcat_vbgunz: I doubt you'd want to use Ubuntu without universe thouh.03:38
hyphenatedProN00b: before running umount, run 'sync'03:38
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Toma-morten0609: umm i think so.. 5.0403:38
Strike4cehelp?03:38
vbgunzTomcat_: really?03:38
Seveashyphenated, umount runs sync ;)03:38
thenukevbgunz: obviously, if you dont need them, why have them?03:38
Tomcat_vbgunz: Don't worry... enable everything you want... just don't put in 3rd party repositories.03:38
N6REJok guys, this is going to sound like a HORRIBLY stupid question, BUT here goes anyway... my webserver is nat'd behind my router.  dns is being provided by someone else outside my network, so that is resolving to the machine just fine, BUT when I ask the server what its hostname is, it just says "adam" when I ask it what its hostname --fqdn is it says localhost.localdomain!  Whats going on...03:38
N6REJ...and how do I fix it?03:38
BiSK-8whats the delete command through terminal?03:38
ProN00bhyphenated, how can i format the disk again ?03:38
hyphenatedSeveas: yeah, but just unplugging it does neither03:38
morten0609no that is not breezy, that is the one before that03:38
Seveas!tell vbgunz about repos03:38
Toma-AlphaFaction: ahh and how do u expect to name them all? ;P03:38
morten0609so this IS a breezy-problem!03:39
thenukevbgunz: but like you are told, they can be considered safe.03:39
Tomcat_vbgunz: Ubuntu will stay stable if you only enable stuff from the ubuntu servers... and universe/multiverse is on the ubuntu servers.03:39
SeveasBiSK-8, why do you want to delete it?03:39
vbgunzthenuke: I don't know if I need them and was just curious maybe the official Ubuntu team releases enough so not to worry about any goodies outside of anything Ubuntu official...03:39
BiSK-8u told me to seveas03:39
SeveasBiSK-8, no03:39
BiSK-8???03:39
Seveasi told you to put it on the pastebin03:39
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Strike4cethe install is asking me about partition size can I make it the minumum?03:39
thenukevbgunz: welll, you know when you need them :D03:39
Seveas!pastebin03:39
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:39
BiSK-8ohhhhh03:39
BiSK-8sry03:39
AlphaFactionToma-: with difficulty :P cow bell does a good job guessing but its unstable as hell and keeps crashing03:39
BiSK-8i though u said recycle bin seveas03:39
Toma-i see03:39
thenukevbgunz: try to install something, wont work, then you can enable extra-repos to propably find it03:39
SeveasBiSK-8, well, I didn't ;))03:40
Strike4ceI need some help here03:40
thenukevbgunz: but if you are using synaptic to search thru the stuff you might want to have, then you should enable those extra repos, and should not worry about them03:40
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vbgunzthenuke: yeah, I think I rather take that route for now... I just want Ubuntu the way the dev teams feels it'll be most stable... No conflicts by a long shot if possible, if Ubuntu could help it03:40
Alex_Ccan someone please tell me if they can read this?03:40
N6REJyes alex03:40
morten0609are there anybody else here who could check out this site on Breezy: www.bogguiden.dk and tell me if the text on the left column is white or dark blue?03:41
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BiSK-8seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296603:41
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johnsie2know that I have downladed w32codecs, what do I do with the .deb file?03:41
Seveasjohnsie2k, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*deb03:41
BiSK-8oh03:41
SeveasBiSK-8, ghe, your sources.list is broken :)03:41
johnsie2kcheers03:41
Alex_Cthank you03:42
BiSK-8seveas: what??? what do i gotta do?03:42
Tb0n3question:how do you del a directory?03:42
Alex_Ccan anyone help - im trying to use the blackdown java 1.4 installer, but it doesnt work, any suggestions?03:42
comforteagleI was trying to add the non-free miltimedia stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats How do I add the GPG key  where are they?03:42
SeveasBiSK-8, this command: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list03:42
orehonN6REJ : YourAre looking into your machine...03:42
vbgunzthenuke: that brings me to my next question, I've been really tempted to go with the w32codecs, libdvdcss, etc... I heard the best way to get them is to temporarily open up those links and add some and download the codecs, etc, then comment those links out so no accidental updates would occur... This sounds fine *but* how in the world do they get updated? Manually?03:42
Seveasand then sudo apt-get update03:42
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Hoxzer^can I somehow mount iso so softwares think the CD is in CD-driver?03:42
orehonN6REJ : Try to ping (to see the hostname of you node)03:42
andooryeyeyeye03:42
N6REJorehon: yeah.... i'm not understanding though why its not coming back with the real domainname.03:42
KgB_hi03:43
N6REJorehon: ok, standby03:43
andooralgu d'Espanya03:43
andoor??03:43
Seveas!es03:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:43
wickedpuppyAlex_C, blackdown is in synaptic right ?03:43
kbrooks!javadeb03:43
ubotujavadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java03:43
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KgB_i tried intall ubuntu on a pentium 100 but i got a problem03:43
kbrooksuse the above!03:43
BiSK-8seveas, it wont work03:43
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wickedpuppyHoxzer^, sudo mount -o loop /mnt/iso /path/to/iso03:43
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kbrooksDO NOT use blackdown03:43
SeveasBiSK-8, what's the error?03:44
phoenixbyrdok, trying to install vmware, but it says this03:44
Seveaskbrooks, why not?03:44
phoenixbyrdWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running03:44
phoenixbyrdkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 03:44
Alex_Cwickedpuppy, no, it was throught terminal03:44
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kbrooksSeveas: uh, nalioth said it is less featured03:44
KgB_it try find (or install) something like firmware-... then it try 3 or 4 times03:44
Seveasphoenixbyrd, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:44
thenukevbgunz: yes, enable repos what have those, and then apt-get install stuff, then apt-get update gets them updated if you have those repos still enabled03:44
Alex_Cwickedpuppy, i will have a check in synaptic03:44
phoenixbyrdty03:44
Seveaskbrooks, not really...03:44
BiSK-8seveas, its really long but its in italian... pretty much the same thing though03:44
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macgeekwhen is ubuntu 5.10 officially released03:44
kbrooksSeveas: huh?03:45
SeveasBiSK-8, did you do both the wget and the apt-get command?03:45
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thenukevbgunz: And am I wrong? but I think that w32codecs and libdvd can be found from ubuntus extra-repos?03:45
wickedpuppymacgeek, topic03:45
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Seveasmacgeek, /topic03:45
vbgunzthenuke: so I can download them. Comment them out. and still stay updated?03:45
KgB_then it stay on black display.. and dont continue the install03:45
N6REJorehon: ok, apparently I don't know how to do that.... when I ping www.cogyfarm.com it just gives me the router ip.03:45
KgB_anyone can help me?03:45
thenukevbgunz: they wont get updated if you comment the repos out where they came from03:45
BiSK-8seveas, what does wget have 2 do with it?03:45
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SeveasBiSK-8, this command: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list03:45
Alex_Cwickedpuppy, it isnt in synaptic at all03:45
Mercutio150ok I installed my wmv codecs and now totem just shuts off every time I try toplaya file...03:45
macgeekoh heh03:45
Seveasthat will install a new sources.list03:45
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Tb0n3Question: what command deletes a directory?03:45
vbgunzthenuke: you're correct *but* as I said i was tempted because I lived so long with it on Windows... For example, all movie trailers come in w32codecs basically :P03:45
KgB_i need some help..03:45
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SeveasTb0n3, rmdir03:45
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SeveasTb0n3, if there are still files in it: rm -r03:46
damo21Anyone know how to fix this?03:46
damo21 Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C03:46
damo21 Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default03:46
thenukevbgunz: as I think that they are not so critical things in your system, you could just enable those repos like once in a month or so on, and then do the update and then disable those repos again03:46
Mercutio150anyone think they can help?03:46
Seveasdamo21, set a locale your system supports :)03:46
wickedpuppyAlex_C, have you enabled universe and multiverse ?03:46
wickedpuppythey are in my repo ...03:46
orehonN6REJ hey dude.. ur machine was with a fake ip?03:46
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thenukevbgunz: but I really dont understand why you would need to disable those repos =) and not to have them enabled all the time03:46
N6REJorehon: nah, its nat'd.03:46
AnswerHello #ubuntu03:46
N6REJmorning wicked03:47
KgB_Seveas i m getting problems when i try install the ubuntu on a pentium 10003:47
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thenukevbgunz: as you will have to install stuff from those repos by your self :D they are not a problem in your repository-list03:47
orehonN6REJ ok finee!03:47
Mercutio150is there another step I need to do after dpkg?03:47
BiSK-8seveas,im doin an update03:47
damo21Seveas: I did dpkg-reconfigure locales and set up en-AU.UTF8 or whatever03:47
BiSK-8so just a sec03:47
Alex_Cwickedpuppy, im only new to ubuntu, my friend helped me load it, so not sure03:47
AnswerI have several different boot options in GRUB, and i'm wondering if there is a way to pre-select an option when choosing Restart (either in ubuntu or windows)?03:47
orehonN6REJ dude.. try restart the dns server03:47
SeveasKgB_, I'm not surprised...03:47
KgB_Seveas it try install(or find) a package firmware-....03:47
vbgunzthenuke: It's just lately Ubuntu feels slow *but* it shouldn't be... Windows is amazingly fast on a first install... At one point Ubuntu felt fast *but* lately it feels a big sluggish and I never enabled a backport... I am thinking some things I've downloaded by enabling those extra links probably messed something up :(03:47
olicathas anyone else lost colour coding in their terminals?03:47
wickedpuppy!repositories03:47
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))03:47
wickedpuppyAlex_C, check that link03:48
KgB_Seveas oh much peoples got same error?03:48
SeveasKgB_, no, but P100 is not supported03:48
N6REJorehon: no dns server locally, it not needed as far as I know... dns is served by my registrar03:48
KgB_Seveas oh03:48
orehonN6REJ man report ur problem again! =P03:48
KgB_ok..03:48
Mercutio150can anyone help me?03:48
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northern_monkI have to create my sound card every time I boot using sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3 && sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp, here is my etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2967 how do I create it at boot?03:48
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thenukevbgunz: what kind of things you have downloaded then03:48
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BiSK-8seveas, it worx03:49
damo21Seveas: Trying to get Mathematica to work but the locales arent working..... does that mean i should revert to the ISOxx ones instead of UTF-8?03:49
BiSK-8thx03:49
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Toma-with ubuntu, when youre asked to put in the root password for synaptic and such, does it keep the focus on the password dialog?03:49
aftertaf:) Seveas03:49
Toma-it doesnt in kubuntu... :(03:49
aftertafthe bot battler......03:49
davedToma-, yes03:49
orehonN6REJ where are u from man?03:49
Seveasdamo21, mathematica once worked for me with UTF-8 (I no longer have mathematica though)03:49
Answer"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configre -a' to correct hte problem"03:49
Toma-hmmm. bug filing time03:49
N6REJorehon: LOL, ok, here goes.... my website resolves fine!  www.cogyfarm.com, BUT, when I try to use the machines name to get the fqdn it comes back as localhost.localdomain03:49
Syrussanyone here got drip to work? It just segfaults on me03:49
N6REJorehon: iowa, though california originally03:49
hwaarais there a way to search for ubuntu/debian packages based on the symbols in them ?03:50
johnsie2kanyone know what happened to mplayer in the repository?03:50
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wickedpuppyjohnsie2k, nothing ? still there03:50
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damo21Seveas: It runs, but dumps a lot of warnings related to locale C03:50
Seveasjohnsie2k, not much...03:50
johnsie2kit yped sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and it couldnt find it03:50
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Seveasdamo21, start it with "LC_ALL=C /path/to/Mathematica"03:50
damo21Okay.., ill try03:51
wickedpuppyjohnsie2k, try without 38603:51
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apollo2011hello everyone03:51
entilhello03:51
johnsie2ksudo apt-get install mplayersame again03:51
johnsie2koops03:51
johnsie2ksame again03:51
apollo2011I upgraded to Breezy yesterday.  I have 2 problems.  One is a minor graphical tweak.03:51
Seveasjohnsie2k, it's not mplayer, but mplayer-586 -k7 -ppc (etc...)03:51
wickedpuppyjohnsie2k, i gotta ask ... have you enabled multiverse and universe ?03:51
Mercutio150is there another player for wmb besides totem??03:52
entiljust a quick question if someone can point me the right way (to the right spot as I couldn't find it in the wiki ;)03:52
apollo2011First, XMMS no longer starts, I get an error if I run it in the console03:52
JackTorrenceWhen is breezy stable?03:52
SeveasMercutio150, mplayer03:52
thenukejohnsie2k: Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-386_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb  so it seems to be in multiverse repo.. do you dont have that enabled I guess03:52
entilis it true uploading upgrades to universe is forbidden?03:52
HobbseeJackTorrence: 13th of oct03:52
Seveasapollo2011, errors go in the pastebin :)03:52
Mercutio150what about for free Seveas?03:52
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SeveasMercutio150, mplayer is free03:52
entilie. if a user needs something from universe and it turns out to have a security issue, he's stuck because of ubuntu policy?03:52
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Mercutio150oh I thought stuff on multiverse you had to pay for03:52
Seveasentil, no03:52
SeveasMercutio150, no you don't03:53
JackTorrenceHobbsee, Is ther a way of upgrading without nuking current data or is a fresh install reccommended?03:53
apollo2011Second, I originally installed this system as Kubuntu Hoary so when I upgraded, the boot screen was the Kubuntu screen.  Since I am using Ubuntu (Gnome) now, I would like it to be switched to the Ubuntu boot screen.  How can I switch it?03:53
ProN00bwtf !03:53
Mercutio150Fell like an idiot again....03:53
ProN00bwhy do songs start playin if i move my mouse over them !03:53
N6REJHobbsee: how do you set the fqdn of a machine in ubuntu?03:53
spolaentil, the point of open source is he can run whatever patches he wants. noone forces you to use anything03:53
Seveasapollo2011, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm03:53
orehonN6REJ are u unblocked the server's port ?03:53
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Hobbsee!tell JackTorrence about !upgradetobreezy03:53
ctrhi03:53
ProN00bi been using ubuntu for over month now and i just realized that03:53
lemics_hi03:53
Hobbsee!tell JackTorrence about !upgrade2breezy03:53
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tuxedo_kamenhi everyone03:54
johnsie2khaha thanks... forgot to add muliverse etc.03:54
HobbseeN6REJ: say what?03:54
entilthis other guy on this other channel(tm) is trying to explain to me that because ubuntu doesn't support universe/multiverse the universe/multiverse maintainers are forbidden from uploading anything new, be it security or not03:54
N6REJorehon: I don't understand your q... the webserver functions fine.03:54
N6REJHobbsee: how do you set the fqdn of a machine in ubuntu?03:54
SeveasProN00b, ccol feature, isn't it :)03:54
tuxedo_kamencan anyone please help me with ddclient ?03:54
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ProN00byeah03:54
psichron!tell psichron about !upgrade2breezy03:54
HobbseeN6REJ: got no idea, dont even know what it is03:54
pittientil: that's not completely true03:54
JackTorrence!upgrade2breezy03:54
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:54
entilwhich sounds un-ubuntuish03:54
highvoltage /win 1203:54
orehonN6REJ ok..03:54
pittientil: security updates to universe and multiverse are appreciated, but they have to come from the community03:54
Mercutio150ok It won't let me get to the multivers repos03:54
entilpitti: probably the implication is that if a DD happens to maintain an ubuntu package as well they may upload one at their leisure03:54
entilyeah03:54
pittientil: the problem so far is that nobody wants to care for universe security updates03:55
apollo2011The XMMS error I am getting is: http://pastebin.com/38906303:55
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pittientil: there is a fixed procedure for universe updates, everybody can help with them03:55
Syrusswhat's the easiest gui for ripping/encoding dvds?03:55
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entilpitti: maybe pulling more stuff into the base from universe may help?03:55
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N6REJorehon: if I say hostname it replys "adam"  which is fine, that is the machines name.  If I say hostname --fqdn it says localhost.localdomain..   which I don't get!03:55
Syrussother than dvd::rip03:55
Syruss?03:55
pittientil: no, it won't03:55
Hoxzer^can I boot ubuntu without mouse and keyboard?03:55
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pittientil: some parts of universe are deliberately not supported03:55
Hoxzer^like windows wont start without keyboard03:55
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Seveasapollo2011, that's a weird one, have you tried reinstalling xmms and moving ~/.xmms out of the way?03:55
SeveasHoxzer^, of course you can03:56
morten0609is there anybody who can help me? this site: www.bogguiden.dk looks horrible on Ubuntu on ALL browsers - but ONLY on Ubuntu Breezy!03:56
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pittiHoxzer^: many servers are completely headless, so if you install a server, of course you can03:56
Seveashow else would servers work :)03:56
goldmundHEI guys! HOW CAN I CHANGE Brightness and Contrast in gmplayer?!!!! NEDD HELP03:56
apollo2011Seveas: well, I did a reinstall of the xmms package in Synaptic.  I didn't move the config folder though.03:56
entilpitti: not as a full-scaled fix but if there are some packages, or whatever03:56
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Seveasgoldmund, a little less obnoxiousness may help...03:56
Hoxzer^pitti: ok, just going for HTPC without regural keyboard03:56
tuxedo_kamencan anyone please help me with ddclient ??? I need to check the ip I currently have at home....03:56
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entiloh well03:56
Hoxzer^*regular03:56
Mercutio150how can I add multiverse ?03:56
entilthat kind of sucks..03:56
Seveas!tell Mercutio150 about repos03:56
apollo2011Seveas: that fixed it03:57
Mercutio150I know how to add but multi doesn't come upi anymore03:57
JackTorrenceAnyone know if they have overcom the XORG issue in Breezy with HORIZSYNC & VERTREFRESH on Dell monitors? had terrible time with Hoary..03:57
Mercutio150just uni03:57
ProN00bok, unmounting bevore unplugging works03:57
pittientil: we are just hesitant with putting new upstream versions in to stable releases; we generally don't do it; there must be very strong reasons to make an exception03:57
orehonN6REJ im looking about it.. pls wait!03:57
pittientil: generally, we apply security patches to the version that is currently in a stable release03:57
entilpitti: I mean, the next stable's base could contain more packages that used to be only in universe03:57
kbrookspitti: strong reasons like what?03:57
N6REJorehon: k, thanks... I'm totally stunned... even putting the names in /etc/hosts doesn't fix it.03:57
goldmunddoes anyone know how to change brightness and contrast in gmplayer? please, if you know, reply!!! Thanks!03:58
entilof course yes only security updates03:58
orehonN6REJ try # cat /etc/resolvi.conf03:58
JackTorrenceAnyone know if they have overcom the XORG issue in Breezy with HORIZSYNC & VERTREFRESH on Dell monitors? had terrible time with Hoary..03:58
entilbut that could be done in universe too by the universe maintainers, and then the packages, if they're good and popular, could be in the next stable's base03:58
entiljust my two cents03:58
AnswerWhy isn't OpenOffice 2.0 recognized as an upgrade from 1.1 yet?   1.1 is so slow!03:58
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N6REJorehon: blank!03:58
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goldmunddoes anyone know how to change brightness and contrast in gmplayer? please, if you know, reply!!! Thanks!03:58
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aftertafnot stable yet Answer03:58
entilanswer: maybe they're packaged to run in parallell?03:58
N6REJorehon: that explains why the router says the hostname is "null"03:58
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orehonN6REJ blank? =/ shit..03:58
vbgunzthenuke, I installed seahorse, KDE, bsdgames and thunderbird that I can recall off the top of my head... All through Synaptic too... Outside of that, I am not sure why Ubuntu feels sluggish... Could this be why some users choose to compile there own kernels?03:58
Seveasgoldmund: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.03:58
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kbrookspitti: strong reasons like what?03:59
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goldmundsorry, ok!!!03:59
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Answeraftertaf:  1.1 is not stable on any of the computers here.  it takes 2+ minutes to load and then crashes.  2.0 works way better even tho it is beta03:59
N6REJorehon: "# cat/etc/resolvi.conf"  right?03:59
orehonN6REJ but why u wanna a fqdn ?03:59
pittikbrooks: there is no general answer to that; we never put a new ustream version into universe security so far03:59
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entil"universe security"? there is such a repo separately?03:59
ProN00bwhee, on mouse over mp3 playing roxxxx ! (now if they could only make it work with folders ^^)03:59
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N6REJorehon: cause the webserver should resolve to cogyfarm.com not localhost.localdomain03:59
pittikbrooks: one reason might be that the new upstream version only contains security fixes and nothing else, and the new version does not break anything else in universe04:00
goldmundit's just that I'm a newbie and I don't know how things work onto this chat!04:00
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pittientil: yes04:00
entilsame goeth for multiverse?04:00
Hobbseegoldmund: sit and watch and learn, you get a fairly good idea that way04:00
orehonN6REJ but this shit will not resolvi in ur machine... or not?04:00
aftertaflol04:00
pittientil: well, of course it is "hoary-security" on the mirror04:00
pittientil: but the reelases are split into main, universe, etc. anyway04:00
morten0609is there anybody who can help me? this site: www.bogguiden.dk looks horrible on Ubuntu on ALL browsers - but ONLY on Ubuntu Breezy!04:00
entilaah, universe/multiverse security upgrades go there?!04:00
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entiloh ok04:00
entilmakes sense04:00
pittientil: yes04:00
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pittientil: there have been quite a bunch of universe security updates in the past04:01
wickedpuppymorten0609, we had something like this this morning04:01
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pittientil: but the guy who did it has no time any more04:01
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N6REJorehon: I'm not sure how to answer that... if you type www.cogyfarm.com it goes to my ISP gets my IP and sends it to my router.  My router translates it to a 192 ip and sends it to my server.04:01
wickedpuppypls file a bug04:01
morten0609yeah, that was probably me04:01
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kbrookspitti: no time? why?04:01
entilI sort of misthought, figured you'd be able to accidentally pull in universe/multiverse software if an upgrade had been published for it :>04:01
wickedpuppyit was another one04:01
kbrookspitti: too much in universe?04:01
morten0609I did, but they think it is not Ubuntu-specific??!04:01
vbgunzman damn... I think my download of Ubuntu Breezy daily ISO is shot... Firefox reports it stopped at 420... I hate when this happens :(04:01
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az[a] zelhi I keep getting complaints about "incorrectly encoded filenames". But these files worked fine in Mandrake. Do I need to install some package to support foreign characters?04:02
entilpitti: so it's all about a need for more maintainers04:02
pittikbrooks: real life, probably :) I don't know, I haven't heard anything from him recently04:02
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az[a] zel"Incorrectly encoded string (07 - Simbelmyn.mp3) encountered."04:02
kbrookspitti: I see04:02
icewtjust wondering... is the breezy cd still in development, or is it ready already and just kept in secret until 13th?-)04:02
pittientil: well, it's about finding somebody who wants to work on it04:02
az[a] zelthe e with the two dots appears to be the problem04:02
LoRevbgunz: use wget or curl for downloading large files04:02
pittientil: you don't even need to be an official maintainer04:02
kbrookspitti: i dont?04:02
morten0609wickedpuppuy, I argued with this developer guy, who kept saying that this is a Firefox bug, although the site looks crappy on ALL browsers!04:02
entilpitti: is it supporting universe if you ask very kindly, politely and with the threat of package removal that whoever uploads packages has to maintain basic security on them?-)04:03
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pittikbrooks: kbrooks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures04:03
morten0609but only on Breezy!!!04:03
pittikbrooks: you can start without having upload rights; of course, if there is somebody who does constant work, he will get upload rights, too after some time04:03
Syrussthere's all kinds of bugs in breezy04:04
morten0609wickedpuppy, how can this not be a Breezy-bug?04:04
vbgunzLoRe: wget http://domain.com/largefile.ext ?04:04
pittientil: no, because the vast majority of universe is just a Debian snapshot, and we can't and don't want to force DDs to care for Ubuntu universe04:04
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pittientil: a few do, though04:04
kbrookspitti: DD?04:04
wickedpuppymorten0609, no idea ... it could be04:04
entildebian developer04:04
morten0609Check this out: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747104:05
entila tight spot, then04:05
wickedpuppysubmit on both breezy and ff04:05
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morten0609it ends with him making it a priority 5...04:05
damo21Seveas: LC_ALL=C /path/to/Mathematica has the same errors04:05
goldmundcan you tell me how can I send the message to the mailing list because it;s the second time I use this chat and I have no idea what's going on. Thanks04:05
anthonyWhat does the parameter "-rf" after the command remove (rm) do?04:05
Seveasdamo21, can you paste the errors on the pastebin04:05
damo21ok04:05
Seveasanthony, recursive, forced removal of files and folders04:05
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vbgunzwget --help... I need to overlook that cmd, I heard it mentioned a few times, thanks for the reminder!04:06
kemikanthony:  "man rm" will tell you04:06
goldmunddoes someone know where a god latex tutorial concerning tables can be found?04:06
kemikvbgunz:  wget is sweet :)04:06
entilbut ok, thanks all04:06
anthonyAh k, thanks guys.04:06
kemikgoldmund:  search for "the not so small guide to latex"04:06
entiloff ->04:06
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kemikgoldmund:  it has most of the stuff you wanna know about04:06
N6REJjust an FYI if anyones having kernel, libc, or locale problems you might want to either redl the daily ISO or update.. cause there are new kernel images and everything.04:06
Answeranthony: f is to force, r is for recursive...  I don't think you want to use that command if you don't know what it does04:06
Seveaskemik, "The not so short introduction to latex"04:07
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goldmundkemik: thanks!04:07
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kemikSeveas:  ahh. so it is ;) just have it as latex.pdf on my comp...04:07
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Alex_Ci installed amsn but after i had registered my logon and tried to log on, it froze, then after i closed it and tried to re-open, nothing happened04:08
jasonb_anyone here know how to declare 2 dimensional array of integers dynamically using malloc? thank you04:08
vbgunzkemik: how you doing? Good I hope! yeah, I need to look into it, this Linux in a Nutshell isn't how I thought it would be... I really want to learn some commands but with details and ideas about how things are the reason why they are, etc... You know exercises, scenarios, etc04:08
jasonb_anyone here know how to declare 2 dimensional array of integers dynamically using malloc? thank you04:08
kikinovakHi. Just installed Breezy on all my four machines. Q: how do I prevent every single partition on my harddisk from getting auto-mounted at boot? There are a dozen distros running on this machine, and my desktop is rather cluttered with hda's :o)04:08
Answerjasonb_: msg me about your specific problem, this isn't really a C coding channel04:08
kbrooksjasonb_: #c04:08
anthonyAnswer: I'm following this documentation for uninstallation process of the program that I have installed, and since I'm new to Linux I just want to learn as to what each command and its parameter does.04:08
wickedpuppyjasonb_, try #c04:08
jasonb_thank you04:08
damo21Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296904:08
Answeranthony: to see the MANual for any command, type in  "man <command>"  for example, "man rm"04:09
anthonyAnswer: Thanks.04:09
N6REJI was just gonna say, type man man :P04:09
kikinovakman woman04:09
kikinovakLOL04:09
kbrooksN6REJ: help on man ;)04:09
N6REJlol04:09
kemikvbgunz:  not familiar with "Linux in a Nutshell" i've learned from doing.. like, stuff doesnt work = i try to fix... and on occassion i bug Seveas or someone else ;)04:10
kemikvbgunz:  google & the man-pages usually gives alot of info and insight04:10
kikinovakman howdoIpreventeverysinglef**ingpartitionfromgettingautomoutedatboot04:10
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bpfchange your /etc/fstab04:10
kemikkikinovak:  remove them from /etc/fstab ?04:10
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kbrookskemik: freebsd/openbsd man pages are better04:10
Answeranthony:  There are also website versions of hte man pages at sites like "http://man.linuxquestions.org"04:10
N6REJvbgunz: doesn't use "nutshell" books if you want the guts'n grime details.... they are "readers digest" versions.... instead look at O'rielly associates or the "bibles"04:11
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Alex_Cany help? i installed amsn but after i had registered my logon and tried to log on, it froze, then after i closed it and tried to re-open, nothing happened04:11
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anthonyAnswer: Ooo... thanks a bunch Answer! =)04:11
vbgunzI just checked "Linux in a Nutshell" for wget in the alphabetical listing of commands and it is not listed... And the alphabetical listing is more like the alphabets with no explanation :(04:11
Mercutio150ok I am having a problem with synaptic can anyone help?04:11
kikinovakkemik: must have slept...04:11
kikinovakkemik: thanks:o)04:11
Answeranthony:  sometimes you can type "info <command>"  to get the next generation help files.  Sometimes they're the same as man pages, sometimes they have more info04:11
Answer!man04:11
BioLinuxhi boys04:11
LoRevbgunz: yes, and if it breaks "wget -c URL" then it continues where it has stopped04:11
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands04:11
kemikkbrooks:  yeah ,well im stuck with ubuntu ;)04:11
Answer!info04:11
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Answer!info man04:12
kemikkbrooks:  and using *bsd as a desktop... well.. no thanks04:12
N6REJAnswer tel'm about the little numbers after the man commands... like man(8)  I keep forgetting about those04:12
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kbrookskemik: search freebsd man pages04:12
Mercutio150it wont let me into the multiverse repoitories on universe and ubuntu04:12
kbrooksN6REJ: man section man04:12
kbrooksobviously...04:12
Mercutio150anyone know what I need to do?04:12
kemikMercutio150:  enable them in /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update04:12
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kbrooksN6REJ: the number in the (n) specifies the section04:13
AnswerN6REJ, anthony:  The man pages have different sections, like chapters.  You can access them by typing  "man # <command>"  where # is the section.  Fore xample   "man 1 man"  and "man 7 man" are different04:13
kbrooksN6REJ: so man n foo04:13
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N6REJI keep forgetting that part LOL04:13
N6REJthat they are diff I mean04:14
vbgunzN6REJ: all I am trying to get my hands on, and with the 1000 of books possibly written about Linux is a simple book that breaks down the commands in an easy to digest format... I learned pretty quick that the cli is probably your best bet to work on other Linux distros quick and your best bet to get something Vs an unknown GUI, etc... So I am trying to find a sort of master reference book regarding commands instead of going through man pa04:14
N6REJc'mon kx solve my resolvr problems LOL04:14
sproingieman -a <command> will show you the command in all sections04:14
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zoot_hi!04:14
sproingievbgunz: O'Reilley's Linux In A Nutshell is pretty good04:14
N6REJvbgunz: go to o'rielly's website and do a search there.04:15
Answerall the nutshell books rule04:15
Answerjava in a nutshell04:15
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N6REJsproingie: he wants teh meat too04:15
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sproingieN6REJ: he will not get it in one book04:15
N6REJhe said he wanted to know "why" not just how04:15
damo21Seveas: Did you get my paste? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296904:15
N6REJsproingie: one of the bibles?04:15
vbgunzI have Linux in a nutshell... I went straight to the command listing *but* it is in no way like I hoped... :(04:15
sproingievbgunz: try Unix System Administration.  it's purple, and it's got this really cheezy cartoon on the front04:15
sproingievbgunz: it's a fairly biblical text though04:16
N6REJsproingie: You know I thik I've got that one LOL04:16
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N6REJwe need a "strong's exhaustive concordance for linux"04:16
sproingieN6REJ: i had the second edition (red) for a long time04:16
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sproingieN6REJ: the purple one covers linux in much more depth04:16
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Answervbgunz:  in order of depth, I recommend  Linux Pocket Guide,  Linux In A Nutshell, Linux Bible 200504:16
vbgunzis there a way to list all possible commands on Ubuntu? Then is it possible to sort of echo the command into a file name and the man pages to a  consolidated directory?04:17
kbrooksvbgunz: all of them?04:17
N6REJOMG!04:17
wickedpuppyvbgunz, .... all ?04:17
vbgunzAnswer, the pocket guide, would that be a bit straight to the point?04:17
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vbgunzI mean the most critical commands or most common... not commands to games like backgammon, etc :P04:17
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sproingievbgunz: all the commands?  there's over a thousand of 'em installed, and most of them you'll never need.04:18
N6REJsproingie: CLE book?04:18
wickedpuppyvbgunz, most common ? they will have man pages04:18
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sproingievbgunz: however, it's fun to browse.  ls /usr/share/man/man104:18
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Answervbgunz: the Linux Pocket Guide covers "Essential Commandsnd some description, like the man pages.  It's only $7 anyways04:18
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Seveasvbgunz, www.linuxcommand.org / www.tldp.org04:18
zoot_backup/restore Q: if i backup all debs from dpkg --get-selections, /etc, /home and pertinent /var data on CD/DVD/external disk and wish to re-install after disk failure, how would i pass the location of these deb pkgs to the installer before it rushes ahead and updates via the network?04:18
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AnswerSeveas:  We have several people in the office using ubuntu, is there a way to make a central repository so we can download packages once and then all install them on the intranet?04:19
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sproingievbgunz: generally, man1 has stuff that's pretty core.  2 is system calls, 3 is the C library.  4 i dunno, 5 is file formats, everything after that is hodgepodge04:19
vbgunzI'll think I'll go to B&N today and look up the pocket guide... I don't wish to overwhelm myself *but* I do wish to learn something rather than just buy a pretty book. I sort of want to open the book and say "oh, this makes sense, this is not complicated, this is not a puzzle with hints..."04:20
vbgunzsproingie: thank you! How do you know this?04:20
zoot_used in conjunction with dpkg --set-selections, apt-get dselect-upgrade..04:20
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damo21can u read this? i had to register a nick?04:20
Answervbgunz:  man man   wil show you the sections.04:20
kbrooksdamo21: i can04:20
N6REJSeveas: wouldn't answer be able to do that by making a custom repos in services.list?04:20
SeveasAnswer, sure, install squid on a server and let every machine use that one as apt proxy04:20
seliniumdamo21: yep04:20
sproingievbgunz: been using unix of various flavors for about 13 years04:20
AnswerSeveas:  thanks!   looking up  "Squid"04:21
damo21Seveas: Just wondering, did u get my paste http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296904:21
SeveasAnswer, apt-get install squid :)04:21
kbrooksAnswer: apt-get it04:21
N6REJAnswer: you'll find it next to "octopus" :P04:21
kbrooks:))04:21
AnswerSeveas: I like synaptic not command line tho.  Can I use a custom repo in Synaptic instead of an apt-get proxy?04:21
Seveasdamo21, hmm, keysim errors :|04:21
sproingievbgunz: as for book recommendations, get either or both of these two books listed here: http://www.admin.com/04:22
damo21Seveas: yeah i have no idea what that means04:22
SeveasAnswer, apt-get squid is what you do to create a proxy *server*04:22
Seveasin synaptic you can then set that one as proxy04:22
Answersweet04:22
Answerwe have like 17 people downloading 50+ package updates...04:22
SeveasAnswer, settings -> preferences -> tab network04:23
sproingievbgunz: you can probably find used copies of it pretty easy too, but i'd stay away from earlier editions, they're way out of date04:23
damo21Seveas: Maybe better to install the win32 version run through wine?04:23
damo21:|04:23
Seveasdamo21, I don't think it'll improve things but you can try04:23
vbgunzsproingie: I really don't expect to become a wizard overnight, not even a year *but* I do just wish to get to grips as I am trying so hard to shake Windows that I sort of start to get depressed because I just can't get to work quick enough with Linux... I am in no rush *but* I have no problem reading a good book, just I can't find the right text book... I don't really want to know the history at the moment, I just want to know how I can b04:23
sproingievbgunz: you can become pretty close to a wizard in a year04:24
vbgunzsproingie: thanks, will look now04:24
AnswerSeveas: Squid is in Synaptic04:24
kemikvbgunz:  i dont think reading a book is the key to learning linux04:24
SeveasAnswer, yes, but you should install that on only one machine04:24
kemikvbgunz:  rather "trial and error"04:24
sproingievbgunz: if you can find it, there's a book called Unix Power Tools.  i think it's out of print04:24
Seveasand let all other machines use that one as proxy04:24
seliniumHi guys, before I get flamed about ubuntuguide, I know! THat is why I am asking here! :)   I have seen their auto dyndns updater, it tries to create a crontab in /root. Is this dangerous? wiki does not have anything I can find ipcheck...  :)04:25
AnswerSeveas: yes i do have some basic understanding of hte concept I am trying to implement heh04:25
vbgunzkemik: I believe you, I became really good with Windows because I called them everyday for like a year... I was almost on a first name basis... I wish there was a Linux group around my way, that would be nice04:25
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seliniumHi Seveas04:25
N6REJSeveas: can I strain your brain a bit?04:25
selinium:)04:25
kemikvbgunz:  and in linux (as with most things) there are a million different solutions to one problem04:25
damo21How do u mount an iso as a loop device?04:25
sproingievbgunz: if it is, ORA might have it for free on their site.  it's also a pretty good book, it tells you a lot of unix tricks like how to use the 'find' command well, and weird commands like xargs04:25
SeveasN6REJ, perhaps, give it a try :)04:25
Seveashi selinium04:25
hircusdamo21: mount -o loop ISOfile mountpoint04:25
damo21sweet04:25
Answervbgunz:  Just search for some quick linux tutorials, and then type in the commands they show and see what they do04:25
sproingievbgunz: i also suggest learning perl.  where a lot of older books have you piping into complex awk scripts, most admins these days use perl instead04:26
vbgunzsproingie: give me a sec, thanks Answer, one sec, I need to backtrack and harvest this info and links04:26
hircusdamo21: now if only it could be done as a normal user, we could use OS X-style ISOs-as-distribution-images04:26
kbrooks!mountiso04:26
ubotuTo mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint04:26
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Mercutio150ok I have added the multivers repos but it still wont let me DL MPlayer, anyone help?04:27
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kbrookshircus: nice idea. :)04:27
kemikMercutio150:  updated?04:27
hircuskbrooks: neat - what other commands does it understand?04:27
SeveasMercutio150, the package is not called mplayer, but mplayer-58604:27
kemikMercutio150:  got the right pacakgename?04:27
VoXhow do i install flash on amd64?04:28
Mercutio150yep updated and MPlaer is the onlyone that it still wont let me dl04:28
kbrookshircus: ?04:28
N6REJSeveas: ok, here's the scenario... my registrar is providing dns for me at no charge :D  I'm on a dsl connection.  I have a wireless router here with 2 windows xp clients, 1 ubuntu client, and 1 ubuntu server.  The server IS serving webpages to the FQDN www.cogyfarm.com as it should... BUT!!....when I say 'hostname' it replys "ADAM", thats good.... when I say 'hostname --fqdn' it says...04:28
N6REJ..."localhost.localdomain"  I don't get it.  The router says the hostname is "null"... something is foobar'd. ...all the machines here are nat'd.04:28
hircuskbrooks: the ubuntu bot04:28
Mercutio150I'm looking under add aplications04:28
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hircusVoX: you're probably out of luck04:28
vbgunzsproingie: Perl? Would you agree the majority of the language on Linux is Perl based or Perl type?04:28
kbrooks!tell hircus about factoids04:28
hircusVoX: install a 32-bit chroot, install 32-bit firefox on it04:28
vbgunzPerl like* sorry04:28
SeveasN6REJ, that's not straining my brain :)04:28
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SeveasN6REJ, put your /etc/hosts on the pastebin04:28
sproingievbgunz: no, but a good enough chunk of it is that you'll need to learn it to be effective04:29
hircuskbrooks: doesn't seem to do anything, that command04:29
hircus!tell me about factoids04:29
kbrookshircus: do you get messaged?04:29
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vbgunzok, first things first, I just want to use the system to do what I need as a user... I will think about developing, tweaking later bet ;)04:29
hircuskbrooks: oh wait, yes04:29
sproingiei dont think the bot knows about 'me'04:29
vbgunzsproingie: thank you for those links!04:30
hircussproingie: it does, surprisingly04:30
N6REJSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/297004:30
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hircussproingie: it even knows I've been told the same thing, and replied with 'it has been said that... '04:30
sproingiehircus: that's a nice change.  infobots didn't used to04:30
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sproingiehircus: the "it is said" bit is just random04:30
hircussproingie: oh. heh, the Eliza effect04:30
kbrooks!tell me about factoids04:31
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kbrooksJust told me ...04:31
SeveasN6REJ, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2971 do you get the hint?04:31
sproingieyou can also just chat with the bot, only reason to send to the channel is if you want others to know you asked04:31
seliniumIs there any issues with creating a crontab in /root ?04:31
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hircussproingie: how do I add commands though?04:31
hircussproingie: add factoids, I mean04:32
kbrookshircus: you can add new commands, /msg ubotu help tell04:32
hircusah04:32
N6REJSeveas: mmmmmmm. maybe04:32
ProN00bi need to analyze a file, anyone knows any hexeditor i can get with apt-get ?04:32
Seveashircus, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:32
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kbrookshircus: erm, thats for sending commands04:32
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hircusProN00b: apt-get search hex04:33
hircusSeveas: thanks04:33
N6REJSeveas: I may even have some things in there I don't need.04:33
ProN00bapt-cache, hircus -_-04:33
Rev-Marcis there anyway to setup chatzilla to automatically do the identify message?04:33
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hircusProN00b: oops. you can tell when I'm not on my Ubuntu machine :)04:33
hircusProN00b: I like ghex myself04:34
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vbgunzwho linked me to linuxcommand?04:35
ProN00bk tnx04:35
vbgunzthis is what I am talking about04:35
vbgunzhttp://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php04:35
marlijsI have a problem with samba share, it used to mount on bootup, but now it says connection refused04:35
sproingieRev-Marc: edit->preferences->freenode->lists->auto perform04:35
vbgunzthis dude got me in a deathgrip ;)04:35
sproingieRev-Marc: just add the /msg in there04:35
N6REJSeveas: YEP, I GOT IT!04:35
sproingieRev-Marc: without the leading / ... chatzilla is strange that way04:35
Seveasvbgunz, sorry :)04:35
N6REJSeveas: ty!04:35
Rev-Marcthank you sproingie04:36
SeveasN6REJ, yw04:36
N6REJhad to orbit around for a bit04:36
vbgunzI love his writing so much, I need to take a break, a breath and be happy, thanks for the link, it was major helpful, it is beautiful!04:36
vbgunz:)04:36
N6REJis there a book on ubuntu?04:36
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N6REJits quite a bit diff from the linux I'm used to of 4 years ago.04:37
bur[n] erN6REJ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation04:37
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N6REJbur[n] er: is there a copy of the in the distro that can be printed?04:38
occy3 days!04:38
sproingievbgunz: i'm not sure that disparaging GUIs is ever a good way for a CLI tutorial to start.  especially when it's such a strawman case04:38
bur[n] erN6REJ: nothat I know of04:39
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N6REJk04:39
bur[n] erN6REJ: furthermore... it's ever-changing04:40
sproingievbgunz: he then goes on to advocate his silly focus model.  all in all, i'm for giving this guy a miss04:40
Rev-Marcsproingie - thank you that worked great :)04:40
N6REJtrue04:40
vbgunzsproingie: I am use to the GUI and found all equivalents to most CLI commands... *but* what I really got excited about was how rm tar and some others were easy and short and yet so powerful...04:40
pl_iceanyone used boewulf?04:40
sproingievbgunz: indeed.  commands are ok, but it's pipelines where it really shines04:40
seliniumoccy: if you have waited this long, I would wait a week so they can iron out some of the kinks!04:41
vbgunzI heard so much about the cli, I mean how it is universal vs doing it thruogh a possibility of several dozen GUIs, etc... Thats pretty standard for me and I like the idea04:41
occyselinium, heh, I think that's what they've been doing.04:41
sproingievbgunz: i sometimes would work on 12-CPU machines, and since each piece of a pipeline runs in its own process, i would typically use ALL the CPU's doing my admin tasks.  zoom :)04:41
seliniumSeveas: is there any security issues with creating a crontab in /root ?04:41
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sproingievbgunz: at sun, they wrote a fair number of GUI admin apps in shell too, namely dtksh04:42
seliniumoccy: You will be suprised how many more they will find when everyone starts to use it! :)04:42
vbgunzsproingie: I still have to learn that ;)04:42
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vbgunzpipelines and the such04:42
occyselinium, nod04:42
sproingievbgunz: not really worth learning, they replaced half of 'em with tcl, then later replaced all of 'em with java.  tcl i could see.  as for java ... spit04:43
kemiksproingie:  does pipelines really get more effective on multi-cpu architectures?04:43
occyselinium, but... you can just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to get the fixes :)04:43
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vbgunzsproingie: one sec,04:43
sproingiekemik: not really, disk is usually your main bottleneck.  in my case it did since all my processes were mostly RAM-resident04:43
seliniumvbgunz: The best thing about the terminal for me is being able to run commands on remote machines, I have installed a apache server on a machine 20 miles away without leaving my desk. fantastic04:44
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seliniumoccy: The repos are probably going to be a bit slow on the 13th :)04:44
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sproingieinstalling windows packages remotely is pretty easy if they're packaged right04:44
sproingieboth gui and cli04:45
Johnziehow to make mozilla default browser?04:45
sproingie'course on linux they don't even have to be packaged right :)04:45
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sproingiewindows technically speaking has a superior package format.  shame they have no real package manager to speak of04:46
vbgunzselinium: I hope to one day get that nice!04:46
kemiksproingie:  windows has a packageformat ?04:47
sproingiekemik: .msi04:47
N6REJv 3.1 now04:47
kemikgoogle is my friend04:48
kemik:)04:48
sproingiekemik: you can open a .msi file with msdac libraries and query it with sql.  pretty nifty that way04:48
N6REJ<----- way over his head04:48
Johnzieis there any way I can access files on my windows partitions from Ubuntu?04:48
sproingiekemik: you can also override any piece of the installer data with .mst (transform) files, without touching the package04:48
pl_icehey u guys know a speaking synthesator that will read text? no gui .. for script04:48
N6REJsam?04:49
kemik!tell Johnzie about ntfs04:49
N6REJis "sam" available for *nix?04:49
N6REJthat would do it.04:49
tritiumpl_ice: festival04:49
pl_iceok04:50
Johnzieuhhh looks like a cgi file hehe... how do I run it?04:50
Answerpl_ice:  emacs has emacsspeak, which may do what you want.  it can use about 12 different text to speech04:50
mahangui need a portscanner for ubuntu04:50
Johnzienm there's instructions04:51
kemikJohnzie:  read the comments04:51
mahanguall i get from apt-cache search is portscan detection daemons04:51
Johnziethanks :-)04:51
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sproingieN6REJ: sam's the name of an older text-to-speech engine, not really a product.  it's very primitive, but quite small so windows comes with it.04:51
pl_iceAnswer it's for a small script, not for ubuntu thought04:51
N6REJsproingie: yeah it was originally developed for the vic-2004:52
N6REJbut now I'm showing my age LOL04:52
sproingieN6REJ: stripped down on the vic i think.  i believe it was a z80 thing04:52
sproingieN6REJ: BTW you could probably try surfing the various "linux for the blind" user sites.  they probably have recommendations04:52
N6REJmy first pc was a "SINCLAIR" zx-80 2k  not the timex version... we had to order it for 79 pounds sterling and assemble it.04:53
N6REJI bet www3c.org would too.04:53
sproingieN6REJ: timex bought sinclair and shipped basically the same machine04:54
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da_bon_bonhi all04:54
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da_bon_bondoes default ubuntu install have two versions of gcc ?04:54
da_bon_bondoes default ubuntu install have two versions of gcc ?04:54
da_bon_boneek!04:55
N6REJsproingie: almost, clive sinclair sold timex exclusive US marketing rights to the machine.  They still produced their own equiptment & designs overseas, but timex botched it sooooo badly, that clive never allowed them to have the better machines like the spectrum04:55
da_bon_bonsorry for double post04:55
N6REJda_bon_bon: yes!04:55
da_bon_bonwhy the redundancy ?04:55
pl_icebed time04:55
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N6REJ*shrug*04:55
N6REJcompatiblity?04:55
sproingieN6REJ: that explains things04:55
da_bon_bonhehe04:55
hircusda_bon_bon: probably the same reason Fedora has two (though they don't install 3.x by default)04:55
da_bon_bonhircus: the reason being ?04:56
da_bon_bonand how do i remove the 3.X version ?04:56
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hircusda_bon_bon: installing 3rd party binaries04:56
mahanguportscanner anybody?04:56
da_bon_bonoh ok, hircus04:56
da_bon_bonthat makes sense04:56
sproingieda_bon_bon: you don't want to until all traces of 3.x are gone from any c++ libs you have04:56
hircusda_bon_bon: C++ ABI changes between 3.x and 4.x especially04:56
da_bon_bonok04:56
steigweiswhy cant i burn 8X with gnomebaker? could it have something to do with the dvd-r discs?  (with windows/nero it works 8x)04:56
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N6REJthe spectrum was 128k with 360k MINI tape drive with zero error rate for $139 lbs, came with dual tape drives and regular kbd & full color.. .was amazing.04:57
sproingiehell, at work i still have to keep 2.9x around04:57
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hircusN6REJ: funny, I just read a mention of it in Gibson's Pattern Recognition yesterday04:57
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N6REJhircus: thats how I learned algebra and programming.... everything then was in machine code or a tiny basic set.04:58
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g14I installed ubuntu on the free partition on my laptop yesterday. Windows booted perfectly this morning and now nothing boots.04:58
N6REJwhen I got to college I almost failed algebra cause nobody told me all those "let x= 5" was algebra!04:58
g14I get a very quick grub loading stage 1.5 error and then the computer reboots04:58
sproingieN6REJ: sounds like the commodore 128 still beat on specs.  'course it never had a lasting chance either, being commodore.  oh well, topic's drifting around here04:59
hircusN6REJ: so you're probably faster at 2's complement than decimal arithmetic?04:59
g14How can I reinstall grub?04:59
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g14I am doing this all from the hoary live cd04:59
N6REJused to be.. back on topic :P04:59
da_bon_bondoes the hibernate of ubuntu unmount all disks before hibernating ?04:59
Answerg14: HAve you mounted the harddrive?  check for  grub menu.lst04:59
goh_I've got a printer problem. Ican print a test page but none of my applications can print any documents04:59
g14Answer: yes I mounted my /boot partition. grub/menu.lst is perfect05:00
g14How can I reinstall grub again? I am at a grub shell right now05:00
Answerg14:  if you run /sbin/grub  it will probe and try to fix05:00
g14Could a non-bot please help me05:01
Answerg14: edit menu.lst and uncomment  #hiddenmenu  and change the timeout to 3005:02
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N6REJ!tell me about ifconfig05:03
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N6REJsproingie: I forgot how to add a eth0:005:05
AnswerN6REJ: ifconfig eth0 up05:05
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N6REJAnswer: nope, I need to create the virtual port first.05:05
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N6REJifconfig eth0:0 something.....05:05
N6REJI just forgot the rest.05:06
butcherbirdg14, you are at grub> right now?05:06
g14butcherbird: yes05:06
steigweisto the guys with breezy: do you think, that gnome 2.12 is faster than the old one? especially firefox is very slow responding on hoary05:06
da_bon_bonlol05:06
da_bon_bonthere is a bug in the ubuntu faqguide05:06
da_bon_bonin upgrading ubuntu05:06
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da_bon_bonboth the sections ar same05:06
da_bon_bon:P05:06
g14steigweis: Yes it is faster, if I could just fix grub :-/05:07
alexboysteigweis, I dont think there's that much difference tbh.  Though I am disappointed I'm going to have to spend some time tuning a/v stuff to get things to play smoothly and without using all my cpu...05:07
butcherbirdg14, what partition is your menu.lst on? hda1?05:07
da_bon_boneek! ubuntu faqguide == ubuntuguide.com :P05:07
da_bon_bon!ubuntuguide05:07
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.05:07
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g14butcherbird: Nope, hda5. hda1 is my windows partiton which I need to access now (Im at work)05:08
steigweisg14: what is with grub and faster in what way?05:08
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Johnziewhen setting up a Samba network printer it asks me for a username and passwor.... what do I put in?d05:08
butcherbirdg14, ok type "root (hd0,4)"05:08
steigweisalexboy: did you have had hoary before05:08
da_bon_bonafter hoary to breezy, when i click on about ubuntu, it displays error "The Uniform Resource Identifier ghelp:about-ubuntu is invalid or does not point to an actual file." -- anyone else face the same ?05:08
butcherbirdg14, you are installing to mbr right?05:08
alexboyyes, been using it for about 5/6 months05:09
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steigweisJohnzie: you have to put the sambapsswd in, probably05:09
alexboysteigweis, didn't do a dist-upgrade though, opted for a clean install. was eager to try out easyubuntu , which has largely pleased me, except for the aforementioned playback issues...05:09
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g14butcherbird: yes, just a second and I will do that05:09
JohnzieIt's a windowsXP computer I'm connecting to with no passwords05:09
g14butcherbird: Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 was the output05:09
thompafinally got on irc05:10
butcherbirdg14, now type "setup (hd0)"05:10
steigweisalexboy: what is the problem of a distupgrade?05:10
steigweisisnt that clean in a way?05:10
N6REJSeveas: I want to add an interface that is 192.168.2.128 as eth0:0  it is NOT in my dhcp pool.  what would be the best way to do that?05:10
g14butcherbird: It says it succeeded, is that all that I needed to do to reinstall it?05:10
AnswerN6REJ: ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.12805:10
alexboynot when you've been fucking around with it alot. and as I said, I was eager to see how a clean install followed by easyubuntu treatment would look05:11
Answer!language05:11
ubotuAnswer: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:11
butcherbirdg14, yes as long as menu.lst is the way you want it05:11
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thompacan someone help anser a question about software updater?05:11
g14Thanks so much. I've used linux for years, but I have never had to fix grub. I have more lilo experience.05:11
Answerthompa:  Have you asked a question yet?05:11
butcherbirdg14, np good luck05:12
thompawell i have just done 2 installs and my sources are different05:12
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JohnziePrinting: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED05:12
thompais that possible?05:12
chrissturmi have moved my root partition to a different harddisk, and fixed grub, but now every time i install a new kernel i get the wrong info written into menu.lst05:13
thompathe pc lists only cd as source05:13
g14butcherbird: I will be back with more questions if it doesn't work...05:13
Answerthompa:  Please try to condense your question into one statement.  It is very hard to scroll and piece together what you are asking.05:13
butcherbirdg14, heh05:13
thompathe notebook has like 5 different sources05:13
da_bon_bonhow do i stop my eth0 interface by being brought up on bootup ?05:13
Answerthompa:  So you are talking about Repositories, in Synaptic?  Just add the ones that are missing.05:13
N6REJAnswer: grrrrrrrrr .... ifconfig add 192.168.2.128 eth0:0 unknown interface05:13
Johnzieis there a default username and password for WinXP Samba networking?05:13
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N6REJI don't want to CHANGE eth0 I was to add a virtual05:14
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thompaok, but why would one have only the cd repos. and the other maybe 5-6 repos, same cd install same time. one is a notebook only.05:14
AnswerN6REJ:  the man page clearly states the usage is    ifconfig <interface>    add refers to the address05:14
AnswerN6REJ:  ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.12805:15
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alexboyanyway, I'm looking for a music player that might not exist.  I need something with what I can only describe as a subtractive and heirarchical playlist editor.  Imagine two windows.  The left hand side is a playlist browser allowing you to view already created playlist, the right hand side displays your new(or 'open) playlist.  Whatever appears in the 'open' playlist, I don't want to see it in the left hand side. And I would also like t05:16
alexboyhe playlists to be heirarchical, allowing playlist subsets.  Does this exist?05:16
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redeemanhello05:16
Answeralexboy:  why don't you just open two music players and copy between the playlists?05:16
N6REJok, and now I need to add it to the routing table right?05:16
thompaAnswer: does my question make sense?05:17
AnswerN6REJ: If you say so...  I dunno what you are trying to do05:17
redeemani am following a howto saying i should apt-get install sasl2-bin, so that i can get saslauthd, but it does not appaer to be in any of the repositories (i uncommented them all in sources.list)05:17
alexboyAnswer, that doesn't satisfy either of my requirements.05:17
redeemananyone that might be able to help me?05:17
Ngalexboy: that basically doesn't exist. The best playlisting audio player is zinf, but it's playback sucks. the rest have bog-standard awful playlists mostly :/05:17
Ng-'05:17
Hoxzersomebody here has installed UT orginal?05:17
N6REJAnswer: just add an additional IP to the interface.05:17
Answerthompa: the question does make sense, but I don't think anybody can tell you why one of them has some extra repositories enabled.  You can disable the extras, or you can add them to the other ones05:17
N6REJone that is not dhcp05:18
alexboyNg, cheers, I'll check out zinf to see if it's any good05:18
AnswerN6REJ:  You just did it with   ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.12805:18
chrissturmalexboy, check out quod-libet05:18
sproingiewow, i have a tin ear, but zinf sounded bad even to me05:18
gnomefreakthompa: did you install it the same way on both pcs as in default or server?05:18
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sproingiedistortion out the wazoo05:18
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HilBillyHeya warlord^05:18
alexboychrissturm, does it do either of those things?05:18
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warlord^hiya HilBilly05:18
Strike4ceok I have ubuntu unstalled on my laptop how can I setup my wireless internet?05:18
thompagnomefreak: exactly maybe 20 min. apart05:18
N6REJok, works.. ty05:18
AnswerStrike4ce: man iwconfig05:18
AnswerN6REJ: grr tolja so05:19
Strike4cewhere do I start05:19
N6REJAnswer: :P been to long05:19
thompagnomefreak: does the install depend on internet? also one was a notebook05:19
Answerthompa:  it will download more packages and updates if connected to the internet05:19
gnomefreakthompa: i dont know than i installed ubuntu on 2 pcs and both are same05:19
warlord^i have tryed to install ubuntu from the dvd version it boot ok but insted of starting the installation all i get is a promt and from there i can't do anything all i can is get into the help file but that is in german does anyone have any idea what to do05:19
AnswerStrike4ce:  typing "ifconfig"  should show you the network interfaces.  eth1 should be wireless.  iwconfig will allow you to set the essid and key and etc05:20
N6REJAnswer: its not in the /etc/network/interfaces file though, so it won't be active on reboot.05:20
N6REJAnswer: will it?05:20
thompaAnswer: it wont if after install the source is cd.05:20
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AnswerN6REJ:  add a line in /etc/network/interfaces that says simply  "auto eth0:0"05:20
N6REJAnswer: k ty05:21
Strike4cetype ifconfig where?05:21
gnomefreakthompa: im sorry ive never seen a default install of ubuntu use cd repos05:21
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kamelionhiya, question, can I block some packets from updating? linke openoffice and the kernel, those are really big and I don't need them updated...05:21
thompagnomefreak: thanks. they do. but it does not matter, i just get curious with inconsitencies.05:22
Answerkamelion: are you using Synaptic?  just deselect them.05:23
Strike4ceanswer type IFCONFIG where?05:23
gnomefreakthompa: im thinking and no i havent tried this yet but take the repos from one pc and emailthem to an email address and open it with other pc and paste them in there getting rid of the cd repos05:23
Strike4ceI have my network tools open05:23
Strike4ceits on loopback interface05:23
thompagnomefreak: easier is just delete them form interface in system05:23
vbgunzreally curious *but* why is dictionary soooo slow? I mean I type a word in and wait 5 seconds, it then pops up... whats up with that? Anyone else experiencing this?05:23
AnswerStrike4ce: go to System-> Administration -> Networking05:23
kamelionAnswer, no, I'm talking about the ubuntu update applet... It keeps popping up with those updates05:24
N6REJAnswer: perfect!  Now my intranet webpages are only on the lan and the public webpages are on the dhcp interface... TYVM  Have a cup of java on me!  {_}?05:24
AnswerN6REJ: it worked on reboot too?05:24
Answerkamelion: I disabled that ubuntu update thing so I dunno05:24
N6REJAnswer: hehehe better check that.05:24
gnomefreakthompa:either way is fine what i meant was just put the repos that u want in the other pc05:24
Answervbgunz:  If you installed multiple languages it could slow down the dictionnary response time05:25
kamelionAnswer, ok, thank you anyway. I'll just update them.05:25
thompagnomefreak: oh right! . are you using kubuntu-desktop?05:25
gnomefreaknope i have gnome up right now05:25
Answer"gnomefreak" is probably not using kde heh05:25
N6REJlol05:26
Strike4ceanswer ok I have tkip set up is that hexadecimal or just plain ascii?05:26
gnomefreaki have kubuntu installed also05:26
thompagnomefreak: so do I. It seems Kubuntu is crippled some. im going there to find out whats up. see ya!05:26
vbgunzAnswer, thank you!05:26
AnswerStrike4ce: It should convert ascii automatically, but if that doesn't work then the answer is hex :)05:26
Strike4ceanswer so I should put my key in?05:27
vbgunzWhat is the Linux ghost equivalent? Would logging in with the Ubuntu Live CD and tarring up the entire drive be wise?05:27
AnswerStrike4ce:  If it isn't currently working then what is the risk?05:27
N6REJAnswer: NOPE! lost it in the reboot05:28
gnomefreakanswer: lol i wouldnt have the k desktop installed but for programming i cant stand anjuta05:28
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Strike4ceanswer now It needs an IP address can I get that from my home pc?05:28
AnswerN6REJ: darn.  I am not so good on the automatic startup stuff...05:28
Answergnomefreak: so what do you use?  kdevelop?   emacs is the bestest05:29
gnomefreakkdevelop05:29
N6REJAnswer: let me try what the man page says05:29
AnswerStrike4ce: Aren't you using dhcp?05:29
Strike4ceyes05:29
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AnswerStrike4ce: if you're using dhcp you don't have to specifiy an ip05:29
gnomefreakive never tried emacs can i still use gcc commands to compile in emacs?05:30
Strike4ceok well I used dhcp and its not working?05:30
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joseolehi05:30
Answergnomefreak:  emacs is totally integrated iwth everything... if you set it up right :)05:30
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Strike4cei guess I could reset my wireless router and then secure it later?05:30
joseoledoes someone can help me out with a usb wireless, i followed the directions of wiki page, but modprobe doesnt allow me to insert the module05:31
gnomefreakanswer: ok thank you i will try it out05:31
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Strike4ceon host settings I have what was put in o boot what do I need for domain?05:31
AnswerN6REJ: I think it is something in the /etc/network/interfaces... but I don't have a good example.  maybe    iface eth0 inet 192.168.2.128  or something05:32
vbgunzWould booting into a my system with the Live CD and a portable hard drive to tar up the entire hard drive be a wise idea in regards to trying to accomplish what Ghost does for Windows?05:32
N6REJAnswer: I think I figured it out... couldn't be easier just add it straight out the man page into the /etc/network/interfaces05:32
N6REJAnswer: yep.. man interfaces05:32
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alexboyvbgunz, yes, that would work fine.  although not the most elegant solution it would work regardless of filesystem05:33
Answervbgunz: google  "ghost for linux"05:33
joseolesomeone knows how to use ndiswrapper ?05:33
alexboyvbgunz, if you are just wanting to backup a *nix filesystem you'd be better off learning about tar and rsync.05:34
Answer!ndiswrapper05:34
ubotu[ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:34
Answer!tell joseole about ndiswrapper05:34
vbgunzAnswer: I will... Another thing, I am about to do a reinstall... Is there a file system which supports encryption out of the box?05:34
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Answervbgunz:  reiserfs supports encryption.  other filesystems probably do too05:35
vbgunzalexboy: Basically backing up the entire home directory is safe and small correct?05:35
alexboythough I would be interested to hear if ubuntu has a recommeneded gui frontend for such backups?05:35
vbgunzAnswer: thank you!05:35
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Answervbgunz:  tar'ing will just stick the files together,  use it with gzip compression to make it smaller.  tar -cvzf05:36
alexboyvbgunz, most certainly. though if you want to be extra safe I would have the user that you're backing up logged out (incase any of your programs are writing to files, or they are crazy and keep temp files in your home dir)05:36
vbgunztar -cvzf /homebackup ~/home/vbgunz/* correct?05:37
alexboyvbgunz, using the loopback device all filesystems can support encryption, even swap!05:37
Answervbgunz:  tar -cvzf <tarfilename> <list of files>05:37
vbgunzAnswer: thats what I wrote but without the extension05:37
alexboyAnswer, don't you want a p in there?05:37
Answervbgunz:  Synaptic shows "backuppc" package for doing this.05:38
vbgunztar -cvzf /homebackup.tar ~/home/vbgunz/*05:38
warlord^Question : i have tryed to install ubuntu from the dvd version it boot ok but insted of starting the installation all i get is a promt and from there i can't do anything all i can is get into the help file but that is in german does anyone have any idea what to do05:38
Answerwarlord^: reinstall.  don't chose german05:38
vbgunzwarlord^: dont choose server either05:38
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JustinHHhello05:38
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vbgunzalexboy, how do i enable this loopback device? is it that simple?05:39
N6REJAnswer: nope, doesn't persist :(05:39
alexboyvbgunz, no, this is getting into quite technical stuff...05:39
warlord^Answer: it don't install anything its just give me the promt and its the english version i hae05:39
vbgunzAnswer, looking for backuppc05:39
alexboyvbgunz, what do you want to achieve?05:39
vbgunzalexboy: I would like a FS with encryption out of the box, not possible yet?05:39
Strike4ceok answer that is not working05:39
Answerwarlord^  when you boot from the install cd and get an initial prompt, press ENTER to install with default options05:40
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redeemanvbgunz: just use dm-crypt05:40
Syrussvbgunz, using encryption on an entire FS is probably just a waste of resources05:40
JustinHHwhat's the command with witch you are able to see the file system used by the partitions and their name? i no it includes fstab.....05:40
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warlord^just did that nothing happen05:40
Syrussuse gpg to encrypt the files you want secret05:40
vbgunzI am going to backup my work, reinstall Ubuntu and only allow good update URLs (official supported)05:40
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Strike4ceis there anyone here besides answer that can help me because he is busy?05:40
AnswerStrike4ce: You will have to investigate the command line commands ifconfig and iwconfig05:40
tuxuntuHello!05:40
alexboyvbgunz, as Syruss says. look into gpg or something. decrypt your files when you're working on them and re-encrypt them when you're done05:41
Strike4ceim trying it with hexadecimal05:41
tuxuntuI'm using a swiss-german keyboard layout. But I cannot enter any special characters like the pipe, the at sign.. what is wrong and how can I fix it?05:41
Strike4cesays activating interface05:41
vbgunzSyruss, I just want on the fly encryption as now I have over 500 accounts which will most likely be insecured on Linux whereas they were protected on Linux... I would just like it be on-the-fly05:41
warlord^Answer: just did that nothing happen05:41
tuxuntuI used Gentoo before, where this worked out of the box05:41
Strike4ce"eth1"05:41
alexboyi think I remember seeing some nice packages that extend nautilus to incorporate encryption/decryption of files/directories05:41
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Syrusswell that's fair enough05:41
vbgunzI meant Windows, sorry :P05:41
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ProN00bomg my nessusd doesn't scan anything but localhost anymore !05:42
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vbgunzredeeman: dm-crypt?05:42
alexboyvbgunz, protected against what? are these laptop users?05:42
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Strike4ceam i headed in the right direction answer? When I tried it with hexadecimal it started activating?05:42
vbgunzghetto user05:42
vbgunz:P05:42
redeemanvbgunz: dmcrypt is a devicemapper target which encrypts05:42
alexboyusing encyption in a client/server environment is largely just smoke and mirrors...05:43
SogniXstupid question again, how do I install a .deb?05:43
redeemanvbgunz: takes one block device in, and gives you a new block device which is encrypted05:43
vbgunzredeeman: i am looking up info on it now05:43
redeemanvbgunz: you can use any filesystems you like on it05:43
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UdontKnowalexboy: not really05:43
ProN00balexboy, smoke and mirrors are the tools of deception and deception is a mighty weapon05:43
Strike4ceanswer it shouldnt be on loopback05:43
Strike4ceright?05:44
alexboyredeeman, so does that basically automate the creation and mounting/unmounting of loopback encrypted filesystems?05:44
vbgunzredeeman, does it basically create like a encrypted partition?05:44
vbgunzI am looking for it, one sec05:44
alexboyUdontKnow, how do you mean?05:44
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redeemanwhat it does is act like an encryption layer05:44
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redeemanalexboy: it doesent need to be loopback'ed05:44
JustinHHredeeman, i want to see the name and file system (fat32, ntfs) of my partitions05:44
UdontKnow(1128958982 12:43) < *alexboy> using encyption in a client/server environment is largely just smoke and mirrors...05:44
alexboyProN00b, I was basically meaning that it's a waste of time05:44
UdontKnowalexboy: not really, it works05:44
redeemanJustinHH: ?05:44
UdontKnowalexboy: and works well05:45
redeemanfor example, i just setup my server05:45
redeemani have raid -> dm-crypt -> filesystem05:45
redeemanso all storage is aes 256bit encrypted05:45
ProN00bit isn't, in alot of cases, alexboy, people aren't that skilled nowdays05:45
JustinHHredeeman, i want to mount my ntfs and fat32 partition in order to be able to access them from ubuntu05:45
redeemanJustinHH: oh - there is a script which adds them to fstab05:45
ProN00beven having to mount a disk manually might keep some people with access too your system from viewing it ^^05:46
vbgunzredeeman: i am searching for it in Synaptic and checking for it through the CLI, but I cannot find dm-crypt or dmcrypt05:46
redeemani cant remember the url, since i dont normally use ubuntu (i am only helping a guy with it)05:46
JustinHHi know how to add them to fstab05:46
alexboyUdontKnow, I mean encryption of the files. if your disks are in a secure location then you dont have to worry about theft. if your OS is keeping users data seperate properly then you dont need to encrypt it. if your OS security is all fucked then encrypting wont help you as you can just snarf it all out of memory anyway05:46
redeemanvbgunz: cryptsetup - i dont know if its in the repo's05:46
Johnziehi.. I'm trying to print to a shared printer. The Printer is connected to a WinXP machine and already shared. What username and password do I need to use to print through that computer?05:46
vbgunzok looking05:46
JustinHHbut i don't  know their place on the hdd05:46
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redeemanvbgunz: in the kernel, you need device mapper and dmcrypt, and for userspace you need device mapper and cryptsetup05:46
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vbgunzredeeman: I found it05:47
JustinHH4 ex /dev/hda2 ntfs or fat32?05:47
ProN00bJustinHH, fdisk hda, fdisk hdb, fdisk hdd, and so on, press p each time to view the partition table05:47
vbgunzredeeman: it is in Synaptic05:47
redeemanok05:47
alexboybasically your time would be better spent encrypting your links into and out of the server05:47
JustinHHProN00b,  thx05:47
alexboyimo05:47
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redeemanalexboy: not for any purpose05:47
HilBillyor you can fdisk -l to show them all05:47
redeemanalexboy: i am locally connected to my fileserver, i dont need encryption on the link, but i damn need it on my data, if anyone steals the server05:47
vbgunzredeeman: have any walkthroughs for making this work onhand? Just curious, am about to google *unless* you have a good article05:47
ProN00band mount should tell you warn you about if its fat or ntfs, so you can't do anything wrong, JustinHH05:48
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redeemanvbgunz: no article needed05:48
vbgunzredeeman: I am an uban00b05:48
redeemanvbgunz: just do: cryptsetup create encrypted /dev/inputdevice05:48
redeemanthen it creates /dev/mapper/encrypted - and it asks for a password05:48
alexboyredeeman, then we're back to laptop-like mentality. i was talking about a client/server setup with the server kept in a secured datacentre05:48
vbgunzok, will experiment :P05:48
redeemanvbgunz: you can experiment on a loopback device if you like05:48
JustinHHProN00b, could you say pls the full command line?05:49
redeemanvbgunz: just google for dm-crypt, then you get to the dmcrypt homepage, which has info you might like05:49
vbgunza loopback device, is that like a virtual drive on Windows?05:49
redeemanloopback takes a file and creates a block device05:49
ProN00bJustinHH, fdisk -l05:49
vbgunzI think I understand... I need to experiment :D05:49
JustinHHthat is what i wanted to hear05:49
JustinHH:P05:50
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vbgunzredeeman: just one last thing, the only device mapper I found is "Hardware Abstraction Layer user interface"05:51
redeemanvbgunz: what do you mean05:51
JohnzieAnyone know how to print to a Windows Printer (SMB) over a network?05:51
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vbgunzI looked up device in Synaptic, that was the only title I had with the word device in it05:54
vbgunzhttp://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/05:54
vbgunzthats the homepage?05:54
warlord^does anyone have any idea on what i can do to get the installation started on ubuntu05:54
UdontKnowalexboy: of course, thats not the case with my encrypted systems, as I know how to build one :) you're going to a particular case...05:54
UdontKnowalexboy: but yes, the OS and privileges have great influence05:54
UdontKnowalexboy: :)05:54
redeemancryptsetup depends on device-mapper - so if you just apt-get install that (or with synaptic) it should be fine05:54
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alexboyany sblive users around?05:54
alexboyor just anyone who can explain why ubuntu appears to think I have two soundcards when I only have one05:54
vbgunzhey redeeman thank you, I believe that page will help me out big time, thank you for pointing dm-crypt out!05:54
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ProN00bvbgunz, you got 500 users on your sys ?05:54
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vbgunzProN00b, no, that many accounts in plain text05:55
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vbgunzpasswords and everything...05:55
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ProN00bwell, that should still be almost 500 users05:55
gohHi, I've just installed my printer using cups. It acts stange as it can only print a test page and in geedit. It can't print in other applications. Any ideas?05:55
jwd_where can I get a good apt-get source.list file?05:55
vbgunzI currently do not have it on the system at the moment as it is encrypted *but* not on Ubuntu05:55
!lilo:*! Small split occurred.... affected users, 156.... we're looking at the problem05:55
N6REJJohnzie: https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html05:56
vbgunz*but* I do wish to put these files onto Ubuntu, they're not users, they're all me, over 6 years of passwords for my various internet activities05:57
vbgunzI just don't want them to sit there and I don't wish to unpack them when I need a password, then repackage them when I am done...05:58
Johnzieuhh how do i get psm for mozilla?05:58
Johnzie!psm05:58
N6REJJohnzie: though I haven't ran through it yet... its in my printouts of things to do.05:58
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Johnzie05:58
Ainvarok why is it I have an icon for gnomebaker in my menu list when I cant use it unless I sudo it?05:58
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AinvarIs there also a way to be able to use gnomebaker without running it as root?05:58
Johnziethanks05:58
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!lilo:*! We'll be doing some weeding on klines in a bit. This means that you will see some return from old bots, though it's usually not huge. Apologies for the inconvenience.05:59
Johnziehhmm https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html wouldnt work05:59
Johnzienm... tooks the s off the https06:00
vbgunzAinvar: did you install as a root user?06:00
AinvarI installed it from synaptics06:00
Ainvarso yes I guess it was installed in root06:00
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JohnzieI'm sharing a windows XP printer with linux machines06:00
Syrusswhat's a windows xp printer? :)06:01
Johnzieone that's connected to widnows xp :-p06:01
Answerit means it is installed as a local printer in a Windows XP machine and then shared.06:01
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Syrusswe have a linux printer herre06:01
Syrussbut it's actually running linux itself :)06:01
warlord^Answer: the advice you gave me didn't worked06:02
alexboyvbgunz, have you looked into revelation ?06:02
vbgunzalexboy: revelation?06:02
Johnziechapter 10 is supposed to explain it06:02
vbgunzalexboy: no, what is it?06:02
alexboygnome password manager06:02
alexboykeeps everything in a AES encrypted file06:02
alexboywould take more legwork then what you're after but the results will be more streamlined06:03
alexboyi just started using it today, it looks pretty nice06:03
vbgunzok will check it, its called revelation?06:04
vbgunzwill search for it now06:04
alexboyyes, its in the 'add programs' bit on breezy06:04
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Ainvarok any idieas on why I can only blank/burn cd/dvds with gnomebaker in root?06:04
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AinvarIs there a special group or something I need to add my account to?06:04
alexboyAinvar, permissions on your device?06:04
Ainvarsame as all the other devices root06:05
Ainvarbut let me verify06:05
alexboyAinvar, ls -l the device and paste the output06:05
vbgunzalexboy: I found it, I use to use Roboform... That was the absolute best program for Windows *but* almost no equivalent for Linux :(06:05
vbgunzI'll try Revelation...06:05
Ainvarok06:05
alexboyvbgunz, I think for form-filling and whatnot there are extensions to firefox06:06
Ainvarlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-10-10 10:48 /dev/sr0 -> scd006:06
budluvaas root, how can i recover a lost user password?06:06
Ainvarbrw-rw----  1 root cdrom 11, 0 2005-10-10 10:48 /dev/scd006:06
alexboyare you in the 'cdrom' group?06:06
Ainvarumm let me check06:06
vbgunzI found one which seemed pretty good *but* it was different... It required a key like GPG and then it would create passwords for you depending on that key... great idea *but* haven't really looked into it... Also, I used Roboform for much more than just passwords... Saved forms, etc...06:07
alexboyvbgunz, revelation does a bit of automated clipboard trickery i think but I was just looking for something trustworthy to keep all my accounts in06:07
Ainvaralexboy what is the best way to see the list of groups i am in?06:07
Ainvarthere is no cdrom group06:08
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Ainvarthere is a cdrom user though according to the gnome users and groups app06:08
Ainvarthe cdrom is gid 2406:09
alexboyAinvar, System -> Administration -> users and groups -> groups06:09
vbgunzalexboy, I will let you know, I hope it's good :P06:09
alexboyselect the cdrom group and see if you're a member06:09
JaivazIs upgrading to Breezy safe right now? Or should I wait till it's full release?06:09
Ainvaryes I am part of the cdrom group06:09
alexboyvbgunz, me too :)06:09
Ainvarmy username and hal are the only two users in that group06:09
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alexboyAinvar, bugger.06:09
ThePyromaniachey, anyone know a good gameboy advanced emulator?06:10
Ainvardo you think the sr0 device needs to have the cdrom group also?06:10
alexboyAinvar, what errors are you getting, does the same thing work as root?06:10
Strike4ceI want to setup wpasupplicant to do tkip. Can anyone direct me or help me?06:10
alexboyAinvar, should be find as it's full perms for everyone06:10
Ainvarwhen I run it under my account I get a sid error telling me it does not have permission to use/lock the device06:11
Ainvarin root, it runs perfectly06:11
alexboydo you have a /dev/cdrom# or anything else that your burner could be looking at?06:11
Ainvaryes but when I tell gnomebaker to use that or to find it, it only shows and will use the sr006:11
AinvarI have a /dev/cdrom and a /dev/cdrom006:12
alexboywhat are the perms on those?06:12
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Ainvarlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-10-10 10:48 /dev/cdrom -> scd006:12
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alexboyAinvar, fucking hell. :/06:12
alexboy(pardon my french)06:12
Ainvarhehe06:12
Ainvarno worries06:13
AinvarI have been saying that and worse06:13
Strike4ceI want to setup wpasupplicant to do tkip. Can anyone direct me or help me?06:13
jwd_I got a problem figuring out apt-get and dpkg06:13
jwd_which od I use06:13
jwd_or both06:13
jwd_?06:13
AnswerSomebody help Strike4ce setup wpasupplicant and tkip!06:13
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Ainvardpkg is used to install local deb files and apt-get is used for remote I believe06:14
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jwd_so if I use apt-get it gets them and installs them?06:14
dbuganyone can tell me the pach name to unistall pachs ubuntu don't neeed ?06:14
alexboyAinvar, have you tried runnig gnomebaker from within a terminal window to see if additional debugging info is pasted there which might help you?06:15
Ainvaralexboy: I will try that now06:15
dbugdeb..... something06:15
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gilligan_hi06:15
alexboyevening, gilligan_06:15
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warlord^can anyone help me installing ubuntu ?06:16
alexboywarlord^, what's the issue?06:16
Ainvarthe error from within gnomebaker:    Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second.06:16
Ainvarthe error in the cli when executing gnomebaker06:16
alexboyAinvar, run 'fuser /dev/sg0'06:16
warlord^when i boot on the dvd i get a promt and from there i can't do anything06:16
Ainvar** (gnomebaker:10466): CRITICAL **: failed to create temp 1306:16
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gilligan_hm,is there some way to *temporarily* switch the language in a shell ? I guess not ? trying to fix some ubuntu installation and the fucked up german translation is almost unbarable..06:17
alexboyAinvar, that last error's an interesting one06:17
alexboywarlord^, what's the prompt?06:17
Ainvarif I rin that command with my credentials, I get permission denied06:17
alexboyAinvar, sudo it06:18
[LethAL] What do I need to do to move my boot files over to my main partition?06:18
Ainvarwhen I sudo that command, it goes back to a command prompt06:18
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alexboyAinvar, hrm.. okay06:18
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warlord^alexboy: [DR-DOS]  A:\06:18
alexboyAinvar, is that 'unable to create temp' thing the last thing you get06:18
Anak1n!p2p06:18
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Anak1n06:18
AinvarThis in running breezy on the i686 kernel with all the latest updates06:18
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alexboywarlord^, that aint the install cd.06:19
Ainvaralexboy yes06:19
Anak1ncan anyone tell me which p2p is the best?06:19
warlord^alexboy: its the dvd version06:19
Syrusswhich p2p what?06:19
Syrussnetwork/client/server?06:19
butcherbirdAnak1n, nicotine isnt bad for music06:19
budluvawhere can i find a copy of an original hoary sources.list?06:19
Anak1nnicotin is slow06:19
wabblegtk-gnutella works06:19
alexboyAinvar, double check your config and make sure you're not using any temp directories or anything else you dont have permission to write to06:19
butcherbirdAnak1n, bah =)06:19
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SyrussAnak1n, bit torrent06:19
Anak1nSyruss: client06:19
Ainvarok06:19
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Syrusstry to get on a private bit torrent site06:20
Anak1nthx06:20
Syrusswhere it works with a ratio06:20
Syrussthen you'll get faster downloads.06:20
Strike4ceI want to setup wpasupplicant to do tkip. Can anyone direct me or help me?06:20
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Syruss:/06:20
alexboyAnak1n, commercial downloads are usually nice and fast06:20
SyrussStrike4ce, the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.example file is useful06:20
wabblei need some nfs fstab help.. i cant get fstab to mount for me.. anyone?06:20
Syruss(I think that's the right path)06:21
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alexboyAnak1n, for  sampling i'd recommened  you look into streamtuner06:21
alexboyheh06:21
alexboydumb theif ;)06:21
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apoZ`hi everybody06:22
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alexboyright, I'm away!06:23
Lickeris tehre an apt-get command to get vanilla flavored apache 1.306:23
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Syrussjust get normal apache06:24
Syrussstop being weird :p06:24
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Lickeri dont want apache206:24
Syrusshmm06:24
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sorush20how do I log in as root in ubuntu..06:24
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Lickerlogin06:24
BurgerMannsorush20: you don't :D06:24
Syrusswell you'll want to add a different repository to /etc/apt/sources.list06:24
butcherbirdapache is 1.3 i believe06:24
atripathigoodevening all06:24
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BurgerMannsorush20: you use 'sudo' infront of the commands you wish to execute06:25
greenpenguin13hello06:25
tHirsoHey, can anyone help me? ive just burned ubuntu 5.10(live+cd install) to a cd, when im doing the base system installation, it stays for a while at 6% taking some time to retreive a few items and then goes to 27% and i get an error.Is there anyone i can know if its the cd or if its the .iso that is corrupt or sth?06:25
sorush20BurgerMann: I'm unable to access the administrator mode in the samba option ..06:25
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BurgerMannsorush20, using X?, you should be prompted for a password06:25
Lickersorush20: su root06:25
sorush20How do I share a linux pc to a windows  pc..06:25
Licker?06:25
greenpenguin13try checking the md5sum06:25
sorush20BurgerMann: yes.. but I don't know what the command is for the kde printer manager..06:26
tHirsogreenpenguin13: which soft can i use to check it?06:26
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greenpenguin13do you have a linux computer currently?06:26
sorush20BurgerMann: so I have to run it form the kde menu which doesn't run it in root mode.06:26
tHirsono im on winows06:26
atripathii messed my apache2 conf through webmin.06:26
budluvawhere can i find a copy of an original hoary sources.list?06:26
sorush20what is the url for the printer config ..06:27
LickerSyruss: how do i do that?06:27
fangoriousi have a samba share set up on my breezy machine. windows machine on the lan with the same workgroup seem to be able to access the shares. but windows machines on the lan which are not part of the workgroup (nor can they be configured as such) get a username/password prompt which invariably fails06:27
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wabblecould anybody with some fstab experience tell me... whats wrong? my ip:/media/harddrive/folder/folder/home/user/folder/foldernfsrw,hard,initr0006:27
atripathiwhich command of dpkg can reset the entire apache2 configuration files to default during installation06:27
greenpenguin13if you do, try the md5sum program06:27
SyrussLicker, I don't know, use google to find the answer, google for: apache 1.3 ubuntu06:27
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Lickerkk06:28
dougskohi guys06:28
butcherbirdatripathi, you can dpkg --purge apache2 and then apt-get again06:28
VoXwabble: what's the error?06:28
SyrussLicker,06:28
Licker?06:28
Syrussare you sure 'apt-get install apache' doesn't install v 1.3?06:28
Lickerhumm06:28
wabbleVoX:  no mount :/06:28
Syrussand apt-get install apache2 installs apache206:28
Syruss?06:28
Syruss:/06:28
Lickerhavnt tested it06:28
Licker:/06:29
Syrusswell there you go06:29
VoXwabble: what's the exact error msg06:29
Syrusslol.06:29
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Syrussjeeze06:29
Lickerwhats the command to get rid of apache2>?06:29
atripathiis the downloaded package(s) cached somewhere on my system so that there is no need to download all over again ?06:29
wabbleVoX: no message06:29
Syrussapt-get remove --purge apache206:29
Lickerthanx06:29
Syrussthat'll get rid of the conf files too06:29
VoXwabble: so.. there's no error06:29
Syruss(the --purge does that bit)06:29
Lickerkk06:30
Ainvarwhen you remove an app is there a way you can tell it to remove all the dependicies that were needed just for that application?06:30
Syrussoh, and remember, apt-cache search somepackage searches06:30
Syrussbut you can use synaptic package manager to manage all this stuff anyway06:30
atripathiactually i was thinking of some workaround to reconfigure the already installed setup. Though i knew ultimate one is to redownload and reinstall06:30
dougskoi just installed breezy today, and i have a little prob., when i go to System->Screen Resolution Prefs, it has my refresh rate at 60 and it needs to be 70Hz, but that option isnt there, so my screen is off some. any ideas?06:30
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SyrussAinvar, probably, try: man apt-get06:30
VoXAinvar: apt-get --purge remove <package>06:30
wabbleVoX: no mount?06:31
Syrussthat doesn't remove the dependancies VoX06:31
SyrussI don't know whether apt is actually that clever06:31
VoXoh06:31
AinvarI am familiar with all the basic apt-get commands06:31
Syrussportage can do it in gentoo :p06:31
Ainvaryes it can06:31
wabbleVoX: when i boot up the computer does not mount the listings in fstab, i dont know how to find any output on errors during boot..06:31
VoXapt wont do it.. there's a program to do it tho06:31
Sonny_Wertzikanyone here ever use gnoise?...i have a problem06:31
Ainvarbut I was hoping for something like that in ubuntu06:31
atripathidougsko......edit yr /etc/X11/xorg.conf   Monitor Section06:31
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Syrusswabble, dmesg | less06:31
dougskosweet, thanks06:31
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wabbleVoX: but, what i pasted in looks ok?06:32
VoXwabble: ys06:32
wabbleSyruss: ill have a go :)06:32
atripathiSyruss.........thanks man i got all the files i downloaded. :)06:32
wabbleVoX: ok :)06:32
Syrussno worries06:32
evianis there a keyboard macro program I can use with ubuntu?06:32
Syrussyer, gnome has something built in06:32
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Syrusssystem/prefrences/keyboard shortcuts06:33
atripathihey buddy how to install from the cache ?06:33
Syrussatripathi, by default ubuntu will use it's apt cache06:33
Syrussso you don't have to do anything06:33
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atripathik lemme try06:33
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Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know of a good wave editor program?06:33
SyrussSonny_Wertzik, have a look on google06:33
Syruss:p06:33
Syrusslinux sound edit program06:34
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Syrussgoogle is your friend.06:34
Syrussgoogle is your friend.06:34
rephi, anyone know how to tell make-kpkg to compile a new kernel without having to run "make-kpkg clean" first? (i don't want to have to recompile the whole thing if i only touched one file)06:34
ccc_Sonny_Wertzik: audacity perhaps?06:34
Sonny_Wertzikhmm ok i just waned to make sure someone had tried it and it works,,,thats why i ask..i cant get gnoise to work06:35
Sonny_Wertzikaudacity!! ok ty06:35
wabbleSyruss: can't see anything about errors on mount..06:35
Syrusshmm06:35
dougskoatripathi: would i need to reboot to see the effects?06:35
jwd_how do I configure xfree86-common06:35
Syrussyou can mount things from /etc/fstab whenever you like wabble06:36
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Syrussyou don't have to reboot06:36
sorush20guys what does the term "released on bond" mean,.06:36
jwd_I keep getting this error06:36
jwd_from dpkg06:36
Sonny_WertzikSyruss, yes audacity looks good ty.06:36
Syrussand /etc/mtab will show you what's currently mounted06:36
apoZ`Hi, does anybody know how to get the display pictures of MSN in GAIM ??06:36
atripathidoug....its not a good idea to reboot on linux ;) But yes i did reboot but i guess gdm might do some trick without reboot.06:36
atripathiwhy dont you try to restart gdm........I didnt try it though06:37
fangoriouswhere should I find the samba password file? it doesn't seem to be in /etc/samba06:37
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Syrusswabble, to try and mount something in fstab...follow my instructions, say you had the following line in your fstab:06:37
Syruss/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       006:37
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apoZ`Does anyone know how to get the display picture like in MSN in GAIM ???06:37
Syrussyou could try:06:37
BelutzapoZ`, it's enabled by default right?06:38
Syrusssudo mount /dev/hdc06:38
dougskoyeah i figured thered probly be some trick, but you know, when something doesnt work, the universal answer is to just toggle the source, haha06:38
wabbleSyruss: yeah i know. The strange is that it works when i write it in manualy mount -t nfs /blablabla/ /blabla but not with fstab..06:38
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dougskook, thanks06:38
dougskocya06:38
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Mpmcwhat is breezy released, I heard it was today?06:38
Syrussand then it would use the fstab to figure out the options about that mount06:38
Mpmcwhen*06:38
wabbleSyruss: yes, manual works. But not with fstab06:38
BelutzMpmc, october 13th06:38
Syruss(and tell you what goes wrong)06:38
Mpmcoh06:38
Mpmcok06:38
apoZ`Mpmc, 3 days to breezy06:38
Belutz:)06:38
Syrusssudo mount /dev/hdc would use the fstab file wabble06:38
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apoZ`What will it be more than this version?06:39
wabbleok, two sec..06:39
atripathiHey how can I safely upgrade from hoary to breezy using the installation CD ?06:39
Syrusssudo mount -t iso9660....blah..blah would override the fstab stuff06:39
Syrussmount looks in /etc/fstab first for things06:39
atripathiSyruss will that mount an ISO ?06:39
Maikeru3 days to breezy06:39
Maikeru4 to my birthday06:40
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Syrusssudo mount -t iso9660 won't do anything apart from complain06:40
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atripathilucky.....I too got my bday in 9 days06:40
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BelutzMaikeru, a gift in advance? :D06:40
MaikeruI wish the release of breezy was one day later06:40
Maikeruman that'd rock06:40
Syrussif you've done a normal ubuntu cd, your cds should appear on your desktop and mount when you double click them06:40
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BelutzMaikeru, gnome 2.12 was out on my birthday :D06:40
Maikerulucky06:40
atripathiIs there any way to mount an ISO image?06:40
Maikeruugh06:41
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Maikeruvmware is being a...er...something06:41
Maikeruso now I just installed 5.5 beta06:41
Maikerubut I don't have a key for that06:41
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Maikerudoes beta require a key though?06:41
Syrussyou don't need vmware06:42
Syrussyou only need kqemu06:42
Syrussjust as fast, but free.06:42
Maikeruoh06:42
Maikerureally?06:42
Syrussyup06:42
Maikeruruns Windows XP and all?06:42
Syrussc'mon guys06:42
Syrussyes.06:42
Maikeruoh06:42
Maikeruwell hell06:42
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amx109hi, i have a problem with monitor resolutions. in windows i can hit 1280x1024@100hz, but in ubuntu it will only go as high as 85hz. ive fiddled with xorg.conf quite a bit, even as far as specifying absolute horizontal and vertical refresh rates, but X doesnt like it. is this a limitation in X or is there another kludge/hack that will let me achieve my goal?06:42
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Syrusslollercopter.06:42
wabbleSyruss: im putting my command to you private, hope it's ok.06:42
Syrussyer ok06:42
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SyrussI have to go and play badminton shortly though :p06:42
atripathiamx...u need to edit xorg.conf06:43
atripathisee.....how i tell06:43
amx109atripathi: i already did06:43
wabble this works06:43
amx109atripathi: multiple times. nothing06:43
eviankqemu isn't quite as fast as vmware06:43
atripathiDo u know yr monitor's HorizSync, and VertRefresh ?06:43
evianbut it is good06:43
amx109yes06:43
tHirsoI'm getting an error during the base system install (ver 5.10) , is there any way i can identify whats wrong(cd or iso)?06:43
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Rev-Marcis there any place to download the 64bit DVD other than by torrent?06:43
Maikeruis kqemu in the repositories06:44
atripathito be sure just do   sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange06:44
amx109ahh06:44
Johnziehow do I install wine?06:44
Maikerusudo apt-get install wine06:44
Maikeruthough wine won't work for me06:44
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evianMaikeru, theres a howto about kqemu in the forums06:44
Maikerubut I'm a special case06:44
apoZ`How can i get my network server in the local bar , for selecting music for instance... ????06:44
amx109atripathi: returns nothing unfortuantely06:44
Maikeruevian: oh, but I was just curious if it was in the repositories?06:44
atripathiJohnzie learn using  Synaptic06:44
atripathi???06:44
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Maikeruor would I have to d/l it06:45
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evianMaikeru, don't think so06:45
atripathitry   sudo ddcprobe06:45
amx109atripathi: without the grep, i get back res's v colour depth06:45
amx109nothing about refresh rates06:45
Maikerummk06:45
Maikeruthanks06:45
Maikerubrb06:45
Maikerugotta reboot anyway06:45
atripathii can do it on my system06:46
amx109i think i should mention im using the nvidia binary drivers06:46
amx109hmmm06:46
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atripathitry again and see the spaces here.      sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange06:46
amx109atripathi:  nothing06:47
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apoZ`How can i get my network server in the local bar , for selecting music for instance... ????06:47
atripathiok let me do a hitntrial06:47
amx109it does say 'edidfail' right at the end, if thats of any use to you?06:47
atripathimake backup of xorg.conf06:47
amx109ok06:47
Syrussmake a backup of all your conf files.06:47
Syrussthat's just common sense06:47
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atripathinow in the monitor section key in       HorizSync  30-7106:48
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amx109ok. restart X?06:48
pussfelleri just upgraded to breezy and now getting errors about unmet deps regarding libfontconfig06:48
atripathiindeed.....i made the mistake and am in trouble over apache2 :)06:48
atripathiamx.......remove the VertRefresh line in the same section06:49
amx109ok, done06:49
dougskoatripathi: it didnt work, i changed VertRefresh to include 70Hz, rebooted, but the option still isnt there when i go to change it06:50
atripathii guess it should be ok now........give it a reboot.....thats odd but it worked for me06:50
atripathino remove VertRefresh06:50
amx109hmm06:50
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atripathido tell me if it works06:50
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dougskoatripathi: just delete that line?06:50
ThePyromaniachey guys, anyone know why when i type 'make' after running ./configure i get about 650 errors?06:50
atripathiyeah remove VertRefresh entry from that section06:51
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atripathiit should be like VertRefresh 50-160.......... just delete this entry from there06:51
dougskook cool06:51
Subliminalhat does the ubuntu installer use to set up X.org?06:51
pussfellerso should I run with -f and force it, but ownt that break everything?06:52
dougskoill be back after another boot06:52
Subliminali have a new wirless mouse, but it is registering middle mouse button clicks when there arent any06:52
atripathihey guys does debian has any certification like Redhat ?06:52
vbgunzI swear Ubuntu looks better by the day, I just made my system look great!06:53
linuxboyis there any shared calendar app for ubuntu?06:53
VoXanyone here able to help me with a chroot issue?06:53
Maikeruhey06:53
ThePyromaniacanyone use VBA-Frontend?06:53
Maikeruanyone have a link to the kqemu forum posting06:53
Maikeru?06:53
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andriushello all06:54
vbgunzI have a tiny issue I hope someone would have some insight on! Where would I change my mouse middle scroll behaviour? It currently scrolls too far... *but* I cannot modify from the mouse dialog... There has to be an option somwhere?06:54
andriusanyone installed ubuntu on a thinkpad t43?06:54
Subliminalvbgunz: if it's kde check out the kontrol app, probably the same on gnome06:54
vbgunzSubliminal, I am on Gnome, I never seen the Kontrol app :(06:55
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vbgunzkontrol: command not found06:55
Subliminalvbgunz: yeah, it's a the kde control centre06:55
Subliminalgnome must have something similar06:56
andriusam having trouble trying to get it to dual boot, without installing grub onto the MBR (according to all the documentation I've read, installing onto the MBR makes it lose some very important functionality)....06:56
vbgunzGnome has a mouse panel *but* no option for the middle wheel... What up with that? KDE, sounds good here >:|06:56
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shinmenAny idea where to get Martin Pitt's GPG keys?06:57
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shinmens/keys/key for his canonical.com account?/06:57
MrGardenHoseMancan anyone recomend an ftp client with ssl/tls support?06:57
TiMiDoMrGardenHoseMan gftp06:58
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spiralhi06:58
TiMiDospiral hi06:58
vbgunzGnomes mouse support blows westward...06:58
MrGardenHoseMani thought it didn't support ssl?06:58
TiMiDoit does,06:58
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poimenhi06:58
TiMiDohi poimen06:59
poimen:)06:59
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poimenI tried to install ubuntu06:59
poimenand It frezed06:59
TiMiDowhere?06:59
poimenalso mandriva and suse did06:59
poimenbut06:59
poimenlinux noapic did it for mandriva and suse06:59
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Subliminalany ideas on why my  middle mouse button thinks it's being pressed?06:59
poimenbut for ubuntu does not06:59
poimendoes linux noapic dont is the command for ubuntu?07:00
gfxstylerhi07:00
poimenhi07:00
TiMiDoSubliminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:00
Subliminalmany thanks07:00
TiMiDopoimen all linux has the same commands, but it may not have the same, packaged management07:00
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poimenwhat would be the problem :(?? the package mannagement I dont think so07:01
Maikeruuh oh07:01
MaikeruThe package vmwareworkstation needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.07:01
TiMiDopoimen not every linux distribution has apt07:01
Maikeruwhen I apt-get install qemu07:01
Maikeruor anything07:02
Maikerusynaptic won't show any files07:02
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TiMiDoMaikeru do sudo apt-cache search qemu07:02
Maikerudone07:02
macgeekquestion: i wasn't able to install the 'remaining packages' for ubuntu, so i skipped that step. now when i try to boot without the cd, it hangs at the 'installing packages' screen. is that due to the fact that i didnt install the remaining packages? or is it hardware?07:02
budluva25/tcp  open  smtp07:02
budluva631/tcp open  ipp07:02
SuperSonixHow can i download C/C++ compailer on Ubuntu 5.04 and how much is in mb ??07:02
budluvawhat service is ipp?07:02
gfxstylerSuperSonix: apt-get install build-essential07:02
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TiMiDoSuperSonix sudo apt-get instal build-essential07:03
syli725hi, just one quick question. I am using fedora right now. How hard ubuntu installation is? I tried to install debian before. just a pain for me. fedora is easy to install. and give me all the support for my hardware, eg, sound card, video card etc. works fine. fedora can auto detect all of them. I am wondering how hard the installation of ubuntu is? auto detect everything? harder or easier than debian?07:03
poimenok07:03
Maikeru[root@whitehat /home/maikeru/Desktop/vmware-distrib] $ apt-cache search qemu07:03
Maikeruqemu - fast processor emulator07:03
Maikeruvgabios - VGA BIOS software for the Bochs and Qemu emulated VGA card07:03
SuperSonixhow much in mb ?07:03
Maikerubut apt-get is still screwed07:03
gfxstylersyli725: even my grandmother could do it07:03
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TiMiDoMaikeru do apt-get update and try again07:03
syli725gfxstyler, you serious? LOL07:03
MaikeruI've done that already07:03
Maikerubut okay07:03
gfxstylerSuperSonix: dont know, should be not much07:03
Maikeruyep07:04
SuperSonixgfxstyler: <10 or >1007:04
gfxstylersyli725: its really easy :)07:04
Maikerustill the problem with vmwareworkstation07:04
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MaikeruI tried running vmware-uninstall.pl and reinstalling, just running vmware-uninstall.pl, that din fix it07:04
asranielhi there. is there a way to tell dhclient that on startup it should only take the ip from the dhcp server, but keep the dns severs?07:04
gfxstylerSuperSonix: i dont know07:04
MaikeruI also tried installing and installing a 2nd time07:04
SuperSonixok07:04
SuperSonixthanks07:04
gfxstylerSuperSonix: whats your problem with the size anyway?07:04
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Maikeruonly thing I can possibly think of is to download vmware workstation 5 and install that07:04
macgeekgfxstyler: actually i am having a lot of trouble installing ubuntu :|07:04
Maikeruthen uninstall vmware07:04
SuperSonixinternet cap :(07:04
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gfxstylermacgeek: whats the problem?07:05
syli725gfxstyler, is installation of ubuntu is easier than debian? I don't need to pick the sound card etc by myself? they all will probabely work fine after I install?07:05
squid0hello folks07:05
TiMiDosyli725 yes it is07:05
TiMiDohello Squid-07:05
TiMiDobla *squid007:05
macgeekgfxstyler: well i just posted it but noone answered. i wasn't able to install the 'remaining packages' for ubuntu, so i skipped that step. now when i try to boot without the cd, it hangs at the 'installing packages' screen. is that due to the fact that i didnt install the remaining packages? or is it hardware?07:05
gfxstylersyli725: yes its very easy compared to debian07:05
shinmenpoimen, did you wrote "apic" or "apci"07:05
squid0hey TiMiDo07:05
squid0what's bla?07:05
TiMiDosup07:05
gfxstylersyli725: i guess if you have no exotic soundcard it should be detected07:05
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ThePyromaniachow do you use visualboyadvance?07:05
TiMiDonothing squid007:05
squid0so why did you do it?07:06
syli725TiMiDo, gfxstyler, thanks a lot. The reason why I want to ask is because I tried to install debian before. that is like a pain. even ask me to put some hardware parameters. i was like shocked when i saw it.07:06
TiMiDosyli725 np07:06
gfxstylermacgeek: does it freeze or does the computer still respond?07:06
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MaikeruTiMiDo, at least I have DSL07:07
Maikerumakes this downloading vmware again a bit easier07:07
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apoZ`Question : Can i put my network folder in the normal folders to select music from the network folder ??07:07
budluvahow do i find out what is using my ports? ie port 25 if i dont want to run a mailserver, how can i stop the service, and remove the program? ie postfix or for port 631 ipp how do i stop and remove cups?07:07
TiMiDoapoZ` set up samba.07:07
poimenapic07:07
budluvaor by default is port 25 and 631 open?07:07
gfxstylerbudluva: you can disable services in breezy, i wouldnt remove cups/postfix etc....07:08
syli725TiMiDo, gfxstyler, thanks a lot for answering my questions. I will try ubuntu soon. Bye. :)07:08
budluvanot in breezy07:08
TiMiDosee ya syli72507:08
gfxstylersyli725: bye07:08
TiMiDo3 more days for breezy release07:08
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gfxstylerbudluva: you can get into dependency trouble if you remove that stuff i think07:09
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asranielhi there. is there a way to tell dhclient that on startup it should only take the ip from the dhcp server, but keep the dns severs?07:09
butcherbirdbudluva, you can always sudo /etc/inid.d/whatever stop, if thats all you want to do07:09
Maikerulet's see07:09
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Maikeru6 more science problems07:09
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Maikeruthen all I have to do is read notes07:09
Maikeruwheee07:09
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colinlhu guys07:09
TiMiDoasraniel man dhcp07:09
TiMiDohi colinl07:09
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colinlanyone knows why deb-make isn't provided by the debmake package in Hoary? :)07:10
macgeekgfxstyler: i dont know if its necessarily frozen, but i can't do anything, because its trying to install. it just sits at 0%07:10
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RuslanHow can I count lines in the file?07:10
dougskoasraniel: try looking at /etc/network/interfaces07:10
Maikeruwell07:11
Maikerugo to the top of the file07:11
gfxstylermacgeek: if the installation isnt even completed then you could always try it again07:11
Maikeruand press the down arrow07:11
asranielTiMiDo: did that, but there is no interesting option i could find...07:11
colinlRuslan: wc -l07:11
Maikerueach time you press the down arrow07:11
Maikeruincrement by 107:11
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Maikeru(so, you just count, at least that's the fun way)07:11
macgeekgfxstyler: when installing off the cd, it gave me an error when installing the 'remaining packages', so i skipped that07:11
budluvaok, i've stopped 25 smtp postfix, but i still have 1 open port, 631 ipp07:11
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Ruslancolin1: Thank you.07:11
gfxstylermacgeek: what error? is the cd corrupt?07:11
budluvathats internet printing protocol, but it seems i dont have cups installed07:11
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budluvahow do i find out what service is using port 631?07:12
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TiMiDobudluva sudo apt-get install nmap07:12
budluva631/tcp open  ipp07:12
macgeekgfxstyler: the md5 sums didnt match. that was like my 7th time trying07:12
budluvathats what nmap puts out07:12
marcus^is WPA integrated in the next release?07:12
squid0how do i activate/use irda?07:12
Narian-Live-cd, hi, i have a problem with the live CD, when booting it halts and sais "kernel panic: not syncing, attempt to kill init!", any one know how i can solve this?'07:12
marcus^i have big problems with setting up WPA :/07:12
TiMiDomarcus^ yes it is07:12
dougskoi still cant change the screen's refresh rate, i even tried installing some more nvidia stuff07:12
asranieldougsko: i cant see something interesting in this file, do you know what i should look for?07:12
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marcus^TiMiDo: is it integrated in Breezy? heh07:12
TiMiDoyes07:13
izm99anyone experience ubuntu freezing?  I think it has to do w/my cpu: amd sempron 3000+ 754-pin.07:13
JerichI just have a small question, I did a custom Ubuntu install, but i don't know what i need to install to have xorg working with XFCE407:13
gilligan_Jerich, apt-get install xfce07:13
budluvabreezy = 5.10?07:13
TiMiDoJerich apt-get install xserver-xorg07:13
budluvaerr breezy = 5.10rc?07:13
Jerichyeah I did07:13
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squid0anyone know anything about irda in ubuntu?07:13
Jerichbut it's says I don't have startx07:13
gilligan_Jerich, or actually "apt-get install xfce4"07:14
dougskoasraniel: google for example setups. at least im pretty sure u can do what you want through this file07:14
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HappyFoolJerich: also install xfce4; i'm not sure how to start X up07:14
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Jerichi did07:14
gilligan_Jerich, heh? just boot up and choose 'xfce4' in session type menu07:14
budluvaJerich, if you can't startx you dont have x installed07:14
izm99dmesg | tail -50 mentions that powernow-k8: fount 1 amd athlon 64 / Operon processor, but sempron 3000+ is 32 bit.  o.O07:14
Jerichwhere can i get x installed ?07:14
Jerichoups how07:14
budluvax-window-system-core.07:14
TiMiDoJerich apt-get install xserver-xorg07:14
budluvaerr x-window-system-core07:14
Jerichthx07:15
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marcus^is WPA integrated in the release which comes in 3 days?07:15
VoXanyone here able to help me with a chroot issue?07:15
Narian-Live-cd, hi, i have a problem with the live CD of ubuntu 5.10rc, when booting it halts and sais "kernel panic: not syncing, attempt to kill init!", any one know how i can solve this?'07:15
TiMiDoVoX ask07:15
gilligan_marcus^, I don't think so, no07:15
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marcus^any nice tutorials on how to do this?07:15
vbgunzhey is it possible when looking up a command for help, getting extra help for one of the options?07:16
gilligan_marcus^, google for "wpa" or "wpasuplicant'07:16
gfxstylervbgunz: man [yourcommand] 07:16
butcherbirdNarian-, tried to burn a new livecd?07:16
VoXwhen i try to run a 32-bit app from 64-bit, i get this error: "(breezy) cho /usr/local/bin/vlc32 | sed 's|^.*/||' <br> bash: cho: command not found"  why is it looking for "cho"?07:16
vbgunzgfxstyler I mean tar -K --help07:17
bpfwhat packages/codecs do I need to install on Breezy to play various multimedia files?07:17
marcus^gilligan_ sure it isnt wpasuPplicant?07:17
bpfright now, I'm trying to play a .mov07:17
izm99vbgunz, "man tar"07:17
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gilligan_marcus^, yes.that oen07:17
gilligan_one07:17
Narian-butcherbird nope, though sense i get the same error with the installation cd, i figgured it was my system or some thing07:17
gfxstylervbgunz: if you type "man tar" you will get help on all options07:17
macgeekgfxstyler?07:17
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HappyFoolvbgunz: try also 'info tar'07:17
gfxstylermacgeek: if the md5 sum doesnt match its highly recommended to not use the cd07:17
macgeekbut..darn07:18
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vbgunzahh, tar --help is like a reference and man tar is a bit more detailed... I really will become friends with man07:18
gfxstylermacgeek: did you use a download-accelerator/manager for downloading the ubuntu iso ?07:18
vbgunzHappyFool: thank you!07:18
macgeeki d/l with bittorrent, gfxstyler07:18
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VoXTiMiDo: any ideas?07:18
FarrisGI use Evolution at work and Thunderbird at home to connect to the same IMAP account/server. For some reason, whenever I delete or move an email at home, it's still in my mailbox at work undeer Evo no matter how many times I try to resync. Any idea what's going on here?07:18
gfxstylermacgeek: try to download from a http/ftp mirror, maybe that works :)07:19
TiMiDoVoX yeah where are you using the cho command?07:19
gfxstylermacgeek: should be faster, too07:19
macgeekgfxstyler: that would have taken a little less than 2 days07:19
macgeekgfxstyler: bittorrent was like 2 hours max07:19
gfxstylermacgeek: whats your internet connection?07:19
vbgunzquick question, how can I echo info tar and man tar to a file for print? echo man tar > /tar.man.txt07:19
macgeekdsl07:19
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gfxstylermacgeek: then you use the wrong mirror07:19
VoXTiMiDo: im not, that's what is confusing the hell out of me. i dont know what is trying to call it, or why07:19
macgeekgfxstyler: i downloaded it right off the site, no mirror07:20
HappyFoolvbgunz: you can maybe use troff (groff?) or something for man pages07:20
macgeekgfxstyler: or rather i tried and gave up07:20
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mirakhi07:20
mirakwhere can I find a mirror list to use with apt-spy ?07:20
HappyFoolvbgunz: take a look on www.gnu.org for pdf / ps versions of the info pages; otherwise if you can get the texinfo source you can make your own printable copy07:20
vbgunz HappyFool: thank you, I believe I just echoed the file :P hope so...07:21
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squid0can someone please help me with infra-red?07:21
vbgunzactually no, echo man tar > /tar.man.txt only echoed man tar... :P07:21
PunkieBEstartx doesn't work in ubuntu what's the command?07:21
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macgeekgfxstyler: what mirror should i use?07:21
ssamPunkieBE what are you trying to do07:22
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gfxstylermacgeek: i dont know, there are some at www.distrowatch.org07:22
PunkieBEto start my visual interface07:22
PunkieBEnow i'm in console07:22
PunkieBEi just installed it07:22
macgeekgfxstyler: the iso seemed fine, the md5 sum on the iso matched the one on the site.07:22
ssamPunkieBE did you do a server install?07:22
PunkieBEno07:22
macgeekgfxstyler: but after burning, the cd md5 sum didnt match the iso md5 sum07:22
PunkieBEi pressed enter07:22
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ssamPunkieBE, it should come up automatically with a normal install07:23
bpfrepeat: what packages/codecs do I need to install on Breezy to play various multimedia files? right now, I'm trying to play a .mov07:23
budluvahow do i find out what fs a partition is? ie i have an unmounted partition /dev/hdc4 but i cant remember what fs it is07:23
PunkieBEit's in vpc07:23
PunkieBEdon't know if that makes any difference07:23
ssamPunkieBE, try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"07:23
VoXTiMiDo: its ok, i found it07:23
HappyFoolvbgunz: zcat /usr/share/man/man1/tar.1.gz | groff -man -T ascii > tar.txt07:23
gfxstylermacgeek: maybe your cdrs are corrupt or your burning application07:23
ssamPunkieBE, or ctrl+alt+f7 or f807:24
HappyFoolmacgeek: mount the CD and check the md5sum that way07:24
macgeekgfxstyler: thats what i was thinking, but i've tried with 2 different computers and 3 different programs07:24
kbrooksvbgunz: man tar | col -b > tar.txt07:24
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dougskobpf: i was never able to get quicktime working on linux, but you can get codecs for pretty much everything else07:24
kbrooksHappyFool: ^07:24
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KenseyWell, I think I did a dumb thing last night, and now I get GRUB error 22 on boot. :)07:24
vbgunzHappyFool: that file came out busted :P it look like tyson gave it an uppercut or something...07:24
macgeekgfxstyler: thats how i checked it. mounted it, then used the unix command 'md5 /Volumes/Ubuntu\ 5.10\ i38607:25
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HappyFoolmacgeek: the CD should have a file like md5sum.txt in it's root; you can use 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt' to check07:25
kbrooksvbgunz: try the command i linked you on07:25
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gfxstylermacgeek: damn, thats weird o.O07:25
kbrooks"man tar | col -b > tar.txt"07:25
sector10#fedora-legacy07:25
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asranielwhat is the best way to tell ALSA to use the second soundcard as the first one?07:25
macgeekgfxstyler: i know. i'd order the cds, but it takes too long07:25
sector10sorry07:25
ThePyromaniachow do i run .deb files again?07:25
FhaeTonis it possible to install through the livecd boot?07:25
vbgunzkbrooks: perfect!, thank you both!07:25
kbrooksThePyromaniac: you dont07:25
ssamFhaeTon, no07:25
Kenseyso which Ubuntu ISO has a rescue mode on it?  Install or live?07:26
squid0ThePyromaniac: you can use dpkg to my knowledge07:26
kbrooksThePyromaniac: dpkg -i foo.deb07:26
ssamFhaeTon, but the dvd version will have live and install on one disk (i think)07:26
vbgunzso kbrooks thats how I send man pages and info pages to a file?07:26
FhaeTonok07:26
vbgunzkbrooks: in general, I would use that format?07:26
PunkieBEssam: doesn't work 'unknown map or file07:26
FhaeTonI thought it installed07:26
vbgunzrm tar | col -b > tar.txt07:26
marcus^give me some reasons to emigrate from WINXP to Ubuntu? (i have to run 2 screens, TV+laptop or LCD screen), webcam on MSN, and i also need to be able to use my iPOD07:26
squid0can someone please help me with infra red?07:26
kbrooksvbgunz: no07:26
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FhaeTonI was gonna fall out07:26
kbrooksman tar07:26
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ThePyromaniackbrooks thanks07:26
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PunkieBEssam: i only have 1,2 GB on my virtual drive could that be a problem??07:27
HappyFoolKensey: the live will be easier for rescuing broken installations; installed ubuntu has a 'rescue mode'07:27
kbrooksThePyromaniac: that installs the .deb07:27
gfxstylermarcus^: you dont need a reason, if you want to use it, use it ... linux is not windows and will never be... if you want to have a free windows, linux is not for you07:27
bpfthx, dougsko07:27
ssamPunkieBE, sounds like xorg is not configured right, can anyone remember the command to fix it?07:27
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kbrooksgfxstyler++07:27
ompaulmarcus^, go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want that conversation07:27
DShepherdDoes anyone know how to connect to the internet via dialup using CLI (assume drivers have been installed and working)07:27
HappyFoolssam: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:27
marcus^gfxstyler: so you recommend that i'll use Windows?07:27
vbgunzkbrooks: thank you so much, that is supernice!07:27
kbrooksgfxstyler: one point off for the lecture ;)07:27
ssamPunkieBE, type "df -h" at a command line to see how much disk space you are using07:28
kbrooksgfxstyler--07:28
Kenseythe installation is fine as far as I know, it was all working before I edited the partition table07:28
dhonnhow do i get freenx for breezy?07:28
ssamHappyFool, thanks07:28
gfxstylermarcus^: if you want an OS thats like windows, than why not use it?07:28
kbrooksmarcus^: he is in no way, shape or form endorsing either windows or ubuntu07:28
squid0marcus^:  i recommend you try a live version of some linux (knoppix or ubuntu), and then maybe setup dual-boot, to see if you really want to go ahead with linux07:28
HappyFoolDShepherd: i think it might be pppconfig07:28
DShepherdok07:29
ompaulgfxstyler, marcus^ that should be dealt with in #ubuntu-offtopic - this place is too busy and it interfers with normal use07:29
ssamDShepherd, wvdial is also good07:29
PunkieBEssam: lol it's full and if i do what happyfool says it says it's damaged or not fully installed07:29
gfxstylerompaul: sorry07:29
dougskocould reconfiguring xserver-xorg possibly help with my refresh rate problems?07:29
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ssamPunkieBE, sounds like the answer07:29
HappyFoolPunkieBE: i don't think 1.2 GB is enough for a normal ubuntu install07:29
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ompaulgfxstyler, not something to be sorry about :) get over there and chat07:29
squid0HappyFool: no, it isn't07:29
DShepherdmy X is just acting funky and I can't get in. I was upgrading to breezy07:30
kbrooksgfxstyler: he is in there07:30
ssamPunkieBE, it is pushing it07:30
kbrooksget over and chat07:30
HappyFooldougsko: you can try; also, maybe read the page ubotu's about to send (not sure if it'll help)07:30
PunkieBEssam and happyfool: tx guys07:30
HappyFool!tell dougsko about fixres07:30
ssamPunkieBE, i am running ubuntu off a 1gb compact flash card, and thats a very minimal install07:30
PunkieBEit's only in vpc so i'll have a retry with more space :)07:30
vbgunzI've been on Windows for a little less than 10years and in the last 30 days I am so happy to have come across Ubuntu. At first it is a bit difficult and I'll agree, *but* it is not Windows and I am happy about it... To be honest, i am really loving it and the community is fabulous fantastic!07:30
ssamPunkieBE, can you spare 2 gb, that might just about work07:30
budluvaif i didnt set a /home partition during install, can i change that now? ie my old 200gb harddisk contained my /home, so now can i just mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc5 /home or will that cause corruption?07:31
PunkieBEyeah i have space :)07:31
dougskoHappyFool: thanks07:31
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budluvaright now my /home is on the same partition as /07:31
srihey how do you run an application under breezy?  there used to be a Application->Run.. selectoin but it's disappeared.07:31
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ThePyromaniacguys "gnomeboyadvance: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed07:31
ThePyromaniac"07:31
vbgunzsri: Alt+F2?07:31
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srino other way?07:31
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dhonnsri: Terminal07:32
vbgunzsri: thats the quickest way imaginable07:32
elvirolohi all07:32
sribleah07:32
squid0has anyone got any helpful suggestions about using irda (infrared) in ubuntu? please07:32
dhonnsri: right click the panel and add the Run Application applet07:32
HappyFoolbudluva: it might be a good idea to copy over your home directory to the other partition first (i mean /home/budluva, not necessarily the whole of /home)07:32
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: try installing python2.307:32
sriah okay.07:32
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: 'sudo apt-get install python2.3'07:32
srithat works for me.07:32
srithanks07:32
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dhonnnp07:33
elvirolowill the release of breezy be delayed or not ?07:33
MrGardenHoseManare there any other ftp clients besides gfpt?07:33
HappyFoolelvirolo: by?07:33
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BackSLaShGuys, sry i have a problem with my laptop's touchpad: while without synaptics driver it "works", even if too sensible, if i install the xorg-driver-synaptics(both ubuntu package or compiled from sources) and restart x it just tops working, any idea?07:33
ThePyromaniacthanks07:33
Answerelvirolo: breezy release scheduled for october 13th rain or shine07:33
sria lot of corporate flunkies tend to use it to run various scripts or what not.07:33
elviroloHappyFool, by the very serious bugs it suffers07:33
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AnswerBackSlash: so don't install it?07:33
asranielwhat is the best way to tell ALSA to use the second soundcard as the first one?07:34
ThePyromaniacHappyFool says "Version of python on system is 2.4.2-0ubuntu2." when iretry the deb file07:34
HappyFoolelvirolo: i suspect this is not the forum for such a discussion. many people seem to be successfully using the release candidate07:34
BackSLaShAnswer, -.- well it's not wroking as intended07:35
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: have you installed the python2.3 package? If you have and it still doesn't work, I guess that deb is not ubuntu-compatible07:35
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ssamBackSLaSh, maybe you need to reconfigure x after installing the driver07:36
aclonedsheepHey, how do I partition my HDD from the live cd?07:36
elviroloHappyFool, well : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16066 http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14566 http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1580907:36
aclonedsheepi mounted it07:36
gfxstyleraclonedsheep: gparted (gui), parted (console), fdisk (when available)07:36
elviroloI consider these as critical bugs07:36
gfxstyleraclonedsheep: you have to unmount it before07:36
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aclonedsheepoh , heh07:36
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aclonedsheepI tried to do it through the installation but it froze07:36
bur[n] erhas anyone used "xfce4-taskmanager" ??07:37
squid0infrared help, anyone?07:37
ThePyromaniacHappyFool i have 2.4 apparently and it need 2.407:37
WinetHas anybody used a Wi-Fi card baesd on Texas Instruments chipset? Ubuntu found my card, and when I set up a WEP 128 key - system failed to join the net, but when I WEP key is off -every thing is ok (WEP key 100% correct)07:37
Winet_based07:37
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: you need 2.3, from what you said earlier07:38
ThePyromaniac2.3 didnt help :(07:38
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HappyFoolThePyromaniac: then my guess is that .deb is not ubuntu-compatible07:38
ThePyromaniaci can never build from source, i always get many errors. i want visualboyadvance to work! :'(07:38
ThePyromaniacheh, but thanks07:39
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butcherbirdThePyromaniac, apt-get build-essential?07:39
bur[n] erWinet: just use MAC address filtering?  or no WEP at all would seem like the easy solution?07:39
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance' ?07:39
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atripathiPyro........try using Synaptic.07:39
ThePyromaniacyes i have build-essentials, and im tryign the GUI for vba07:39
atripathiadd more repositories07:39
ThePyromaniacfrom here: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1650&release_id=326307:40
ThePyromaniaci tried one called VBA-Frontend but found this GnomeBoyAdvanced which looks better07:40
HappyFoolfor python apps you'll possibly also need python2.3-dev (or python2.4-dev)07:40
ThePyromaniacaha thanks07:41
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Winetbur[n] er: MAC filtering is an idea, thanx but I still wanted to know - what is wrong with it. (the same thing i have usin ndiswrapper) Only DriverLoader is working with my card correctly, but it is not free07:42
aclonedsheepgpart isnt working, i click 'apply' and it goes like it is working, but then goes back to the status window and the partition isnt resized07:42
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Sarkiehi07:42
kbrooksEveryone:07:43
kbrooksidea:07:43
gfxstylerhi07:43
kbrooksmake the menu more friendly to new users07:44
ThePyromaniacuck this swine wont install, installed python2.3, 2.3dev, 2.4 AND 2.4dev07:44
sexcopter8000mhi, i have a pdf file and the page size is way bigger than the contents. can i crop each page accordingly?07:44
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rob_pWinet:  What chipset is your card?07:46
Winetrob_p: one sec.07:46
Winetrob_p: ACX11107:46
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aclonedsheepAtheros Super G07:47
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rob_pWinet:  Then this page will almost surely answer your questions:  http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php07:48
KenseyCan I have a partition table with partitions out of order?07:48
Kenseymy old partition layout is hda1 with Windows, then hda2 which is extended, inside of which is hda5 which is Ubuntu.07:49
HappyFoolhda1 through hda4 are used for 'primary' partitions; the logical partitions start at hda507:49
KenseyI shrunk the Windows partition and now I want to make a new Linux partition in the free space.  Can I have hda3 located physically before hda2?07:49
HappyFooloh07:50
HappyFoolKensey: sorry, not a clue07:50
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aclonedsheepwhy would gpart not be able to resize my windows partition?07:50
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squid0aclonedsheep: i had the same problem with qtparted07:50
squid0are you trying to resize an ntfs partition?07:51
aclonedsheepyeh07:51
squid0argh.07:51
Winetrob_p: Thank you very much!07:51
butcherbirdThePyromaniac, i compiled it for you but now i dont think ill let you have it ;p07:51
squid0i mean, ah. ;)07:51
rob_pWinet:  The driver you are using doesn't support WEP if its the driver that came with Hoary.  You will need to build one that does.07:51
sexcopter8000mis there a programme out there to edit pdf files?07:51
rob_pWinet:  No prob.  Good luck!07:51
vbgunzsexcopter8000m: open office can create them...07:51
Winetthnx07:51
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MrGardenHoseMandoes the default command line ftp have ssl?07:51
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aclonedsheepsquid, did you fix the problem?07:52
squid0aclonedsheep: i hear PartitionMagic is a good program that manages ntfs partitions, but it's commercial07:52
squid0no :(07:52
vbgunzrob_p: whats up, long time no see, how is your EFS working out?07:52
budluvaany suggestions on a good ftp daemon?07:52
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sexcopter8000mvbgunz: ok, but i want to crop an existing pdf file07:52
squid0aclonedsheep: it's very frustrating07:52
squid0aclonedsheep: have you tried qtparted?07:52
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aclonedsheepno, just gpart07:52
rob_pvbgunz:  Working 100%!  I'm so glad I set it up!07:52
aclonedsheepim unfamiliar w/ qtparted07:53
rob_pvbgunz:  You?07:53
squid0it's fairly intuitive07:53
vbgunzsexcopter8000m: I am not sure if the Open Office write app can freely edit a PDF, I just know it can create them... Mayb copy and paste?07:53
AnswerOK Tough question:  I have a dual boot Ubuntu/WinXP laptop, and I want to setup Thunderbird so that it is the same in both operating systems :)07:53
vbgunzrob_p: 0% :P07:53
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jbroomeAnswer: unless you're using imap, it's going to be kinda difficult07:53
aclonedsheepwhree is qtparted07:53
squid0aclonedsheep: mind you get the latest version. Tho even with that i can't promise anything07:53
squid0it comes on knoppix07:53
kbrookshousetier: :P07:53
Answerjbroome: Cant I just put it in a fat32 partition or something cool like that?07:54
kbrookshousetier: ubuntu user eh07:54
aclonedsheepwhats knoppix, heh07:54
vbgunzrob_p: I never got to it, I wanted to *but* lost your link in the flood of new Linux links + have been thinking more and more of reformatting, etc...07:54
squid0aclonedsheep: you don't know?07:54
vbgunzrob_p: brb07:54
housetierkbrooks yes ubuntu + debian experimental&worse07:54
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aclonedsheepi do know07:55
squid0good07:55
Answeraclonedsheep:  #knoppix07:55
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eckiNabend07:55
gfxstylernabend07:56
bluefoxicyholy shit ubuntu's popularity must have gone up a lot07:56
rob_pvbgunz:  I've since, created an encrypted loopback fs which gets mounted on bootup.  I then have ~/.mozilla as a symbolic link to that encrypted fs.  Firefox knows no difference but now, all data written to/read from the mozilla directory gets encrypted/decrypted on the fly!07:56
bluefoxicyit's gone from 600k/s downloads off the pipe to 189k/s07:56
squid0bluefoxicy: mind your language, please07:56
EasterSunshinedoes anyone know a good irc client made for leeching of fservers, like sysreset for example?07:56
ssamBelutz, are you interested in fiting ubuntu on a small disk?07:57
bluefoxicysquid0:  OK but I only know English07:57
kbrooksI have a idea which some of you may want. a ndiswrapper gui07:57
Kenseywell, I rewrote the partition table to its old offsets and it boots.  now to see if it'll mount what I want :)07:57
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Kenseykbrooks: I think it's been done07:57
ThePyromaniacbutcherbird you did?! :D07:57
kbrooksKensey: ?07:58
ThePyromaniacbutcherbird um, can you email it to me?07:58
Belutzssam, yes07:58
ssam\msg Belutz hello07:58
mypapitwtf?07:58
Kenseyknoppix-ndiswrapper or something like that07:58
butcherbirdThePyromaniac, hmmm  you have a paypal account?07:58
ssamBelutz, i dont get irc :-)07:58
ThePyromaniacyou want me to pay you for compiling it?07:59
Belutz:-)07:59
ssamBelutz, i have just been getting ubuntu on a 1gb compact flash07:59
ssamBelutz, it depends how much you need07:59
Belutzssam, could we discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic please? :-)07:59
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Answer!ndiswrapper08:01
ubotumethinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:01
bluefoxicyhey08:01
bluefoxicywe got a package called kdar08:01
bluefoxicynow all we need is gdar08:01
Answerjust use kdar in gnome08:02
bluefoxicyno way08:02
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samu2Umm, are there any dvi viewers installed by default?08:03
samu2Think I found one.08:03
Subliminalcould somebody help me, ubuntu thinks my mouse buttons (middle button) is being pressed when it isnt08:03
atripathifree CD's for me have been sent to shipping company on 2nd Oct. will I miss the final release of breezy ?08:04
Answeratripathi: the 'final' release of breezy will be 6 months from oct 13th...08:04
Subliminali've tried recreating my xorg.conf file, even telling it to not emmulate 3 buttons and it still happens08:05
EasterSunshinewhoa! some guy named Answer has provided an answer!08:05
atripathi? so what is bager ? is it some sort of beta ?08:05
AnswerSubliminal: have you tried the mouse on another system?  maybe the middle mouse button really is being pressed, i.e. the mouse is broke08:05
SubliminalAnswer: it works fine on windows08:05
bluefoxicyoh god this is priceless08:05
bluefoxicyhttp://m.2mdn.net/876092/Hell_300x250.gif08:05
Answeratripathi:  the breezy badger that you can get now is technically a beta version, it will be officially released on october 13th08:06
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SyrraHello08:06
EasterSunshineAnswer: can i place orders for pressed cds yet?08:06
gfxstylerAnswer: its 3 more days until release, you could call it a FINAL already08:06
blekos3 days left!!!08:06
TiMiDoyay08:06
blekoshello pple08:06
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blekos:)08:07
atripathii hope I get the latest ones08:07
blekosi have a little problem with an update08:07
SyrraHello,  I have a question about GAIM in Ubuntu08:07
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blekosi get   a post-update message08:07
Dis-AbledI am looking for docs on super secure ubuntu server setup - breezy - Zope - Zep - Plone and mail08:07
gnomefreaksyrra: what problem?08:08
blekosrequiring  user ineteraction08:08
Dis-Abledopp, Zeo Zope Plone2.1-108:08
blekosi have turned-off/on the computer several times but the msg still appears any ideas?08:08
Syrraits not really a problem, I was just wondering if I can make the taskbar thing flash when I get a new message like it does in windows. I keep missing people talking to me. : /08:08
vbgunzrob_p: dude, you have your whole drive encrypted?08:08
AnswerEasterSunshine:  I'm not sure when you have to order to get the new version, however you can upgrade from whatever version you have...  or just burn cds yourself...08:09
vbgunzor just a loopback devive or something?08:09
AnswerSyrra:  see gaim-guifications08:09
rob_pvbgunz:  No.  I have a secondary hard disk that is totally encrypted.  I then also have my .mozilla directory encrypted.08:09
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SyrraAnswer: Eh?08:09
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AnswerSyrra:  to make gaim blink you need to get  "gaim-guifications"08:10
gnomefreaksyrra: the only thing i know that you can do like that would raise the im window on screen when activity is there08:10
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Answergnomefreak: he needs gaim-guifications08:10
FhaeTonok is it possible to copy the Livecd setup and use it for an installation?08:10
Syrraoh, where can I find that? Thanks btw. And I'm a she08:10
rob_pvbgunz:  The encrypted disk used dm-crypt while the encrypted loopback fs on the primary drive uses losetup.08:10
vbgunzhmm.. you sent me the wiki page on encryption or did you use another guide? You sent me a link *but* I've been harvesting them and have to go through them soon :P08:10
gnomefreakanswer: i tried that and it didnt work right08:10
AnswerSyrra: in Synaptic you could search for gaim...  or the package is called gaim-guifications08:10
gnomefreaksyrra: synaptic08:10
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rob_pvbgunz:  hold on a sec... let me dig it up again...08:11
squid0repeat: can anyone please help me with irda on a notebook?08:11
vbgunzman I hate to use the word starving...08:11
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butcherbirdThePyromaniac, boss is breathing down my neck cant bring vmware up right now... Here is what I did:08:12
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AnswerSyrra, gnomefreak: in gaim, Tools-> Preferences -> Plugins ->  Guifications08:12
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Dis-AbledAnyone know if thier is an ubuntu-server channel?08:12
rob_pvbgunz:  Here's the one that I used to setup the secondary hard disk as an encrypted filesystem:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemHowto08:12
FhaeTonCan't a save a boot floppy of the LiveCD setup and then do an install with the setting from the floppy?08:13
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AnswerSyrra, gnomefreak:  also  gaim, tools->preferences->plugins -> message notifications08:13
gnomefreakanswer: thank you im looking now08:13
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SyrraThank you Answer08:13
butcherbirdThePyromaniac, apt-get install python2.4-dev then... tar xvzf gnomeboyadvance-0.4.tar.gz then.. python setup.py install08:13
bur[n] eranyone knwo if there's an eyedropper that works to fidn the color of anything on your screen?08:13
naliothDis-Abled: you are in it08:13
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butcherbirdThePyromaniac, in hoary08:14
rob_pvbgunz:  ...I also got some information from: http://www.kiskeyix.org/index.php?submit=post&story_id=1151&parent_id=008:14
SyrraDoesn't Badger come with Gmud as part of the iso?08:14
Dis-Ablednalioth: thank you08:14
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vbgunzrob_p: i was just looking at that a second ago... You don't have any juicy whole disk encryption links? I am thinking about redoing the entire disk and making Ubuntu fulltime and omniscient...08:14
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Answervbgunz:  google  Reiserfs Encryption...08:15
j-linuxI just broke synaptic :S08:15
BockBilbohello08:15
rob_pvbgunz:  All the info is in there.  You should be able to accomplish it with those 2 links.08:15
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TiMiDoBockBilbo hello08:15
Syrracongratulations j-linux!08:15
Syrra;)08:15
gnomefreaklol08:15
BockBilbo:) TiMiDo ;)08:15
gfxstylerthats the way08:16
Dis-Abled:()08:16
j-linuxSyrra: thank you...08:16
Dis-Ablednow you'll just have to use apt-get08:16
jpfariaspeople!08:16
j-linuxI installed something last night called anon-proxy with synaptic.  I recall that it asked me to automatically set something to 4001 -- that is the port for the proxy?08:16
jpfariashow do I run IE with wine?08:16
Kenseyyes jpfarias?08:16
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Kenseyoh lord, you don't ask for much :P08:16
j-linuxNow Synaptic is trying 4001 and won't work.08:16
gfxstylerjpfarias: why would you want to run IE ? *g*08:16
Answerjpfarias: are you kidding... don't run ie08:16
naliothjpfarias: wine /path/to/iexplore.exe08:16
Syrrajpfarias, why do you want to run IE?08:16
jpfariasgfxstyler, debug css for a website08:16
vbgunzrob_p: yup, I hope so, I owe you one dude! I remember we spoke about it... In the next few days i am redoing my entire HDD. I am currently downloading Breezy daily through Bittorrent... I hope i am able to create a whole encrypted disk... Thank you again bro!08:17
TG__can i format partitions in partitionmagic before i install ubuntu?08:17
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gfxstylerjpfarias: is firefox not able to do that?08:17
Jeromeesyrra: didn't you know, ie is the shizzle?08:17
gnomefreakjpfarias: im with answer and syrra on the ie thing08:17
zenroxcan any one help me with any of these breezy prob i am having ---> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7395508:17
Kenseyyou can format them in anything you want, but there's no reason to really08:17
naliothTG__: yes08:17
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squid0vbgunz, check out linuxjournal.com; they've run some interesting articles on filesystem encryption the past few weeks08:17
jpfariasgfxstyler, well, some css stuff behave different on IE and Firefox08:17
Answerjpfarias: use the w3.org css validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/08:17
vbgunzAnswer: Thank you, Reiserfs Encryption is right out of the box *because* this is what I am hoping for... Is it possible from the installer before ever logging into Ubuntu?08:17
Kenseythe install process has an option to format the partition08:17
j-linuxThese are my error messages from Synaptic: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/297608:17
gnomefreakjpfarias: firefox can pull up IE pages if you want it to08:18
naliothjpfarias: thats b/c IE is nonstandard08:18
Syrraoh, one more thing, how do I run telnet?08:18
KenseyI know a guy who ran with an encrypted swap.  Because he could, apparently.08:18
Answervbgunz: You can choose reiserfs as the filesystem during install, then you will probably have ot turn on encryption for the entire drive afterwards08:18
jpfariasnalioth, I know08:18
Dis-AbledZeo install check Plone2.1 Zope Secure Breezy (1)08:18
j-linuxI think this has something to do with an HTTP_Proxy but I'm not sure...08:18
AnswerSyrra:  in a terminal, type 'telnet'  or 'ssh'08:18
jpfariasbut most users of my web app will use IE08:18
naliothj-linux: you got trouble, mister. heh08:18
vbgunzsquid0: thank you bro, I am just taking in as much as I can because although I found some really good stuff and rob_p put me onto most of it, i am still looking for a Whole Disk Encryption" method that would not exactly be easy but not exactly be terrifying :P08:19
TG__naloith: so i make a linux partition (10 gig, ext3) and a swap partition (500mb, swap), and i can use these partitions in the ubuntu installer, right?08:19
naliothubotu: tell j-linux about sources08:19
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satafterhI have a problem, chanel says someone eles has my identity and I have to identify every time i try to log on to this channel, how can i fix this08:19
naliothTG__: yup08:19
Syrraalrighty, I figured it was about the same on command line but I wasn't sure. Thanks again Answer, you're well named.08:19
naliothTG__: actually, you can just make a 10.5gb free space and it'd be easier08:19
vbgunzAnswer, I'll google Reiserfs Encryption now...08:19
squid0vbgunz: sure. well, check out linuxmaganize. might help you08:19
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rob_pvbgunz:  Also, if you are interested, I wrote a perl script that validates against your username and password in /etc/shadow that handles local access to the encrypted directory.  It basically prompts you for your password before allowing local access to it.  It's a simple GUI pop-up box that handles it.  Anyway, I had to do this since the encrypted drive is unlocked upon booting.  I wanted a way to keep unauthorized folks o08:19
rob_put after bootup.08:19
Kenseybeing asked to ident every time you connect to freenode.net is normal behavior08:19
j-linuxnalioth: I know how to add sources, but it won't let me.  It happened because I installed something called anon-proxy with Synaptic and it automatically did something and set a proxy on 4001 or something.  I can't remember.  I didn't think it would destroy synaptic :S08:20
Answervbgunz: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1387/08:20
TG__nalioth: a 10.5 gb ntfs partition?08:20
Answerj-linux:  apt-get remove --purge anon-proxy08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
vbgunzrob_p, one sec, I need to talk with you...08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
squid0vbgunz: this might be interesting: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/859908:20
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gnomefreakj-linux: can you go back in synaptic and uninstall it?08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
naliothj-linux: remover the proxy thing08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
j-linuxAnswer:  I already removed anon-proxy, but it already is set to 4001.08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
rob_pvbgunz:  If you want the script, let me know.08:20
vbgunzAnswer, thank you, I am looking at it...08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
HappyFoolheh08:20
j-linuxnalioth: didn't work08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:20
HappyFoolman, that guy is bad at spamming08:20
moyogointerwiki: http://08:21
Answerj-linux: remove with the --purge option and reboot.08:21
moyogointerwiki: http://08:21
moyogointerwiki: http://08:21
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Answermoyogo: last warning to stfu08:21
TiMiDolamer08:21
Kenseytoo late :)08:21
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squid0lol08:21
j-linuxAnswer: ok, I wll try.  thanks08:21
Dis-Abled:)08:21
Kenseythat's like the e-mail spammers I see that have broken URLs in their own spam08:21
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pussfellermy upgrade is burping on xkeyboard-config08:22
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Syrraew, the terminal has a white background, can I change that? Oh.. heh, and how do I make ubuntu not brown?08:22
gfxstylerSyrra: sure08:22
AnswerSyrra: Edit Current Profile, change the colours.08:22
gfxstylerSyrra: System/Settings/Themes08:22
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j-linuxAnswer: since I already inunstalled it, it won't let me uninstall anything.08:22
moyogosorry about that08:22
gnomefreakanswer: btw i installed like 41 things for emacs and half of them wouldnt install kept spitting errors out08:22
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HappyFoolhrm08:23
vbgunzI am reading these articles...08:23
KenseySyrra: for the first, you want to edit the menu item, for the second, try a different theme08:23
HappyFoolthunderstorm, *sigh*08:23
j-linuxSyrra: options on the mneu bar08:23
j-linuxmenu08:23
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Answergnomefreak: did emacs-speak work?  I had to do dpkg --configure -a   to finish the install08:23
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squid0vbgunz: disclaimer: i haven't tried it myself08:23
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SyrraThanks again08:23
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gnomefreakanswer i think that was one that didnt install but id have to go through synaptic and see08:23
satafterhwhats a spambots?08:23
KenseyI have to say I was initially skeptical of the Ubuntu hype, but it really is quite nifty08:24
Answergnomefreak:  yeah mine did not finish, from the command line I had to do  "dpkg --configure -a" and then it finished up08:24
AnswerKensey: don't... don't don't don't believe the hype08:24
Answerfight the power!08:24
gnomefreakanswer: it told me to do "apt-get install 10 emacs-extra/select makes doesnt exsist08:24
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pussfellera program that joins channel after channel and posts links in private msgs to people08:24
vbgunzsquid0: since I will be starting from scratch (saving home) and doing a new install which will take Ubuntu from it's current 7 1/2 GB parition to a possible 80GB HDD or 70GB and 10 for XP, I can make a mistake or two :)08:24
Skidw 2508:25
Skidman :\08:25
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Answervbgunz: This article explains step by step how to test different filesystems without all that work: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1387/08:25
gnomefreakanswer its throwing errors out again little fast but i saw a speed bar error08:26
gnomefreaknevermind its fixing it i think08:26
Answergnomefreak: the only package you really need is emacspeak, and dependencies.  "speech output interface to Emacs"08:26
vbgunzyeah, I am seeing that now Answer... the only part I haven;t got to and haven't seen yet is *how to* encrypt an *entire* disk... If I can encrypt the entire disk with Linux, I will run XP through vmware or something Vs dual booting...08:27
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squid0vbgunz: fair enoug08:27
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Answervbgunz: so you see how to encrypt part of a disk?  just do that for /08:27
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gnomefreakanswer: it gave me "errors were encountered while processing: emacs21" im assuming i need that since im thinking its the base08:28
vbgunzAnswer: ahh, this is one of the reasons why I wish to start from scratch... I don't mind messing up when it's done from scratch ;)08:28
Answervbgunz: just do it08:28
Answergnomefreak:  yes emacs21 is the base emacs package...08:28
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j-linuxThis is the result of a grep: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2977  These are my original error messages: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/297608:29
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Slaj_Rquestion:  I tried configuring my Broadcom wireless card using the info. at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683.  The card still isn't working.08:29
LasseL!ati08:29
ubotuati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx08:29
vbgunzI'll try to document my steps, hopefully I can get it clear cause I usually have the knack of redoing a system even after it came out good... Just my thing, I guess, let me read the rest of these articles, will tell you in a sec my P.O.A.08:29
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Slaj_Rany troubleshooting suggestions?08:30
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kikinovakHi. I use two different keyboard layouts (swiss and french). No way to switch layouts in GNOME. Tried everything. Any ideas?08:30
j-linuxI'll try to reboot... BRB08:30
squid0Slaj_R: folks are a bit slow on troubleshooting today ;) i'm still waiting for a response08:31
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kikinovaksquid0: what's your pb?08:31
Slaj_Rah.  I'll take my chances for a few minutes :)08:31
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gnomefreakanswer: does it matter what speech server package that are listed that i pick?08:31
kikinovaksquid0: just joined...08:31
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squid0kikinovak: i can't find how to activate/use irda on my hp omnibook laptop. and thanks for responding!08:32
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squid0Slaj_R: good luck ;)08:32
LasseLkikinovak, try rightclick the panel (next to the watch) select add to panel and add a keyboard indicator08:32
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squid0kikinovak: you can also use/define a keyboard shortcut to switch between the layouts. default is ALT + ALT08:33
mirakif the bootloader manage to load the kernel he should be able to load the initrd as well ?08:33
SuseUXgnome are working on a great new icon theme :-)08:34
squid0SuseUX: that sounds great08:34
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SuseUXlooks really nice08:34
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squid0SuseUX: link?08:35
SuseUXhttp://tango-project.org/Tango_Icon_Gallery08:35
LasseLam I the only one that get "freezes" in breezy with the ati fglrx drivers?08:35
mirakhow to get the exact sources of a kernel image, with ubuntu patches and such ?08:35
MHaggagHello everyone. I have a couple small problems with Ubuntu64 5.04, and was wondering if you guys could help :)08:35
mirakLasseL: yes08:35
LasseLhehe08:35
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MHaggag1. Whenever I boot my system, it queries the router for the DNS servers, effectively overwriting the manual DNS IPs I enter through the network admin. I tried adding the IPs directoy to /etc/resolv.conf, but it's still overwritten on boot08:36
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CryptidHey is there a Software that Converts .Mp3 files to .Wav files ?????08:36
MHaggagdirectory -> directly*08:36
LasseLmirak, these 3 don't count then: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69556 ? :p08:36
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kbrooksjust sent out a e-mail to ubuntu-users / ubuntu-devel08:36
MHaggag2. How do I tell Ubuntu that my monitor supports a refresh rate of 85 HZ at 1024x768?08:36
SuseUXSquid0, looking nice hey!08:36
mirakLasseL: I use a radeon 9600 pro08:37
ThePyromaniacanyone know how to find where visualboyadvance is installed, and then how to configure gnomebodyadvance to know where it is?08:37
kbrooksMHaggag: system > prefs > screen resoloution08:37
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squid0SuseUX: looks great08:37
mirakMHaggag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:37
LasseLmirak, it seems it is mostly an issue with older cards08:37
kbrooksmirak: no08:37
Slaj_RCryptid: sox08:37
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kbrooksmirak: gui is bettwer08:37
mirakLasseL: like what cards ?08:37
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mirakkbrooks: if the resolutions aren't listed in the gui there is no way he will get them08:37
LasseL8500, 8800, 910008:38
j-linuxAnswer: it worked.  I just had to reboot (the anon-proxy thing)08:38
shyruhi!!!08:38
mirakLasseL: I had a 8500 and it worked08:38
shyrusombebody help me??08:38
TiMiDoshyru hello08:38
TiMiDoask shyru08:38
SuseUXSquid0, perfect for gnome, it's how gnome should be08:38
shyruTiMiDo, hi!08:38
LasseLmirak, in breezy08:38
mirakLasseL: I don't remember if I switched to breezy before buying an nvidia08:38
squid0SuseUX: from what i see, i agree08:38
kbrooksew08:38
CryptidSlaj_R, i actually need this software to convert .mp3 files to .wav files so that i cn use it as True Tones for my Phone08:38
shyruTiMiDo, im newbie for ubuntu, well  i have ubuntu 5.04 and i need to upgrate for 5.1008:38
LasseLmirak, my 8500 worked fine in hoary08:38
shyruany idea?08:38
kbrooksthis 60 hz is a strain on my eyes08:38
rob_pMHaggag:  For you first question, the dhclient script overwrites your /etc/resolv.conf file with DNS info obtained from the DHCP server.  The easiest way to use your own DNS entry is to put, "prepend domain-name-servers ip.of.your.dns;" in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file.08:39
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SuseUXthere's some nice videos and a downloadable set08:39
mirakLasseL: me too08:39
Slaj_RCryptid:  That's a big format for a phone!08:39
TiMiDoshyru changed it to breezy08:39
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mirakMHaggag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:39
flagfrancahello all08:39
squid0kbrooks: :p08:39
shyruTiMiDo, howto?08:39
Slaj_RCryptid:  I think sox should do it.08:39
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Slaj_RCryptid:  But I haven't looked for anything else in a couple of years.08:39
MHaggagThanks kbrooks, mirak and rob_p!08:39
TiMiDoshyru nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:39
shyruoki08:39
rob_pMHaggag:  no prob!  Good luck.08:39
MHaggagHowever, on the refresh rate issue: The screen resolution dialog only shows "60" HZ for 1024x76808:39
kbrookswhoa08:39
j-linuxHas anyone else used XFCE with Ubuntu -- I like it better than Gnome08:39
shyruando chance the name?08:39
TiMiDoyeah changed the name08:40
kbrooksMHaggag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:40
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MHaggagkbrooks: Oh, sorry *blush*08:40
shyruTiMiDo, great!!!! thanks!!!08:40
shyru:D08:40
apollo2011hi everyone08:40
TiMiDoshyru look at this first https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:40
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MHaggagkbroos: I saw that earlier, but somehow forgot it when I saw the "Screen resolution dialog" suggestion :)08:40
MHaggagWill try it out now. Thanks all!08:40
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shyruTiMiDo, oki08:41
shyru:D08:41
flagfrancahello people08:41
squid0MHaggag: i had that issue too on my other machine. have you resolved it?08:41
apollo2011the problem I am having with xmms is due to the iTouch plugin.  Everytime I enable the plugin, xmms crashes and closes itself.  The plugin worked fine before I upgraded to Breezy.  Any ideas on whats causing this problem>08:41
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TiMiDoapollo2011 try running xmms with the terminal and look at the issue maybe it can be a bug08:41
flagfrancais there any other movie player for ubuntu rather than totem? Im experiencing playback problems here and theres no option to install codecs08:41
sector10nalioth: should the proxy server check box be deselected in Xchat?08:42
squid0flagfranca: install codecs via synaptic08:42
TiMiDoflagfranca mplayer08:42
dougskoflagfranca: i like kaffeine08:42
vbgunzI need rest... I am shot tired... too much crypto today...08:42
dougskoor xine08:42
naliothsector10: if you dont have a proxy server, you dont need the box checked08:42
gfxstylerflagfranca: do a synaptic search on xvid and install it ... and then take a look at wxvlc, the best multimedia player so far08:42
squid0vbgunz: bye08:42
j-linuxAdobe Acrobat problem:  Following ubuntuguide.org instructions didn't work.  Can't find mozilla-acroread.  Any suggestions?08:42
sector10nalioth: they are all checked by default08:42
apollo2011TiMiDo: well I did run it, and it comes back with a vague error about GDK.  I had a Hoary installation I upgraded on my Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop, and the plugin works fine on it.08:42
TiMiDoj-linux xpdf ;P08:42
dougskoyeah vlc is sweet08:42
shyruTiMiDo, im try to enter this site but the key for https does not rulz08:42
naliothj-linux: dont use ubuntuguide08:42
j-linuxTiMiDo: not as many features08:42
vbgunzFellas, thank you for everything! rob_p, squid, Answer thank you all so much, I have enough info to wake up busy ;) Later fellas!08:42
j-linuxnalioth: is it wrong?08:43
kemikj-linux:  isit necessary to use acrobat? you got plenty of other options (xpdf etc etc)08:43
kemik!ubuntuguide08:43
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.08:43
rob_pvbgunz:  Good luck with it.  Keep us posted!08:43
naliothj-linux: how long have you used linux?08:43
j-linuxnalioth: 9 months maybe08:43
squid0vbgunz: good rest! enjoy, and hope to see what you come up with08:43
kemikgnite vbgunz08:43
sector10nalioth: all the networks in Xchat have proxy server checked by default, so thats the problem08:43
CryptidHow do i convert a .mp3 files to .wav using Sox (step by step process)08:43
MHaggagsquid0: Which issue? The DNS one, or the refresh rate one?08:43
HappyFoolj-linux: try installing acroread and acroread-plugin (though I think there's a bug with the former)08:43
naliothj-linux: i'd be very wary of ubuntuguide. some of it's instructions can lead new users into a dead ubuntu box08:43
squid0MHaggag: the refresh rate one08:43
vbgunzthanks, peace!08:43
gfxstylerCryptid: www.google.com -> sox08:43
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dougskoso i reconfigured x a couple times, and it gave me some new refresh rates for different resolutions, but i still cant pick 70 Hz at 1024x768, very frustrating...08:44
sector10nalioth: thanks for the help08:44
gnomefreakthe guide for breezy is in the menu already08:44
j-linuxHappyFool: they are installed but they don't work.  I just get a blank screen in firefox, and when launching from the menu, nothing happens08:44
MHaggagsquid0: I'm trying it out now. I'll let you know what happens when I'm done with the configuration :)08:44
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squid0MHaggag: great. good luck08:44
j-linuxThe only thing I am missing is mozilla-acroread (according to ubuntuguide.org :S08:44
HappyFoolj-linux: yeah, let me track the bug down...08:44
j-linuxHappyFool: thanks08:44
theretherhi everyone ! i am with a little (or big) problem. My glxgears output dont appears...anyone helps ?08:45
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nalioththerether: you using breezy?08:45
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therethernalioth, yes. the preview.08:45
HappyFoolj-linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcrobatHowTo   -- the bug is in hoary, not breezy08:45
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tarzeau4 slots left in #bub-n-bros , any players join us? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net08:46
flagfrancaalright people....I will try to make it work (install video codecs and change the default player)....Is there a specific codec so I can run AVI files (DV) on Ubuntu?08:46
nalioththerether: output has been disabled in breezy08:46
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Belutztarzeau ???08:46
naliothubotu: tell flagfranca about w32codecs08:46
tarzeauBelutz: this is a fun network game08:46
therethernalioth, really ? can i enable that ?08:46
dougskoflagfranca: just apt-get install vlc08:46
PassionLimtherether, I'm in the same problem, but most 3d games works well..08:46
ThePyromaniaccan someone look at http://pastebin.com/389312?08:46
naliothtarzeau: no advertising in here, please08:47
theretherPassionLim, my warcraft is too slow...:(08:47
nalioththerether: i dont know the command syntax to do so (but you can if someone knows it)08:47
j-linuxHappyFool: I get them confused: breezy is the newest one about to be released?  I have the older one.08:47
tarzeaunalioth: it's not like i did the game. and it also runs on ubnutu. and i don't make any money08:47
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HappyFoolj-linux: that's right. hoary is officially ubuntu 5.0408:47
flagfrancaanother question: how do I install programs in Ubuntu? Do I need a compiler? I m new to Linux, folks....08:47
naliothtarzeau: advertise it on #ubuntu-offtopic please08:47
naliothubotu: tell flagfranca about apt-get08:48
Seveasflagfranca, applications -> add applications08:48
j-linuxHappyFool:  I love Ubuntu but I think the names could use improvement :S08:48
HappyFoolj-linux: lsb_release -a if you're not sure08:48
SuseUXWow, Alot of people using Ubuntu08:48
Seveasflagfranca, or system -> administration -> synaptic package manager08:48
HappyFoolj-linux: *shrug*08:48
j-linuxHappyFool: I have Hoary08:48
MaikeruHey08:48
MaikeruI installed a beta of VMWare08:48
Maikeruand I kinda screwed up apt-get08:48
HappyFoolj-linux: then you (probably) have the acrobat bug08:48
Maikeru'ne ideas?08:48
JDigitalWoo, I got a new bluetooth USB dongle!08:48
Maikeru(lemme paste it, one min)08:48
HappyFoolj-linux: it's easy to fix -- check the link08:48
JDigital...now how do I use it?08:48
dbrodieIs it possible to resize an NTFS partition from the breezy installer?08:48
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MaikeruJDigital, www.ubuntuguide.org08:49
MaikeruRead some of that, helps a lot08:49
HappyFoolj-linux: let me know if it doesn't work08:49
SeveasJDigital, are you on breezy?08:49
Maikeruer, not JDigital sorry08:49
SeveasMaikeru, do NOT advise ubuntuguide08:49
Seveas!ubuntuguide08:49
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.08:49
JDigitalHoary.08:49
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MaikeruOh, sorry Seveas08:49
MaikeruDidn't know08:49
SeveasJDigital, upgrade to breezy, it has much better bluetooth support08:49
MaikeruIt's always worked for me so I didn't know08:49
Maikerubesides, didn't mean to tell JDigital that anyway, was the wrong nick (so sorry JDig)08:49
j-linuxHappyFool:  I'm working on it now.  Thanks.  I'll let you know if it works.08:49
ThePyromaniacguys! http://pastebin.com/389312 anyone?08:50
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Dreamglidercan i have grub scan my drive's and detect operative systems to add to the boot list ?08:50
Maikeruseveas08:50
Maikeruam I allowed to paste 4 lines of test?08:50
Maikerutext*08:50
JDigitalyes08:51
JDigitalI'm waiting for the official release of Breezy08:51
SeveasMaikeru, better use a pastebin08:51
Maikerummk08:51
Dreamgliderwhen is the official release due to arrive ?08:51
gfxstylerJDigital: its pretty stable here08:51
d0ogie3 days08:51
dbrodieor does anyone know how to use ntfsresize?08:51
Maikeruhttp://pastebin.com/38931908:51
Maikerudoes that whenever I try to apt-get install anything now08:51
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: try #python08:51
d0ogieguys, i have to say that breezy is amazing08:51
Maikeruand when I open synaptic it displays that message and won't list any packages08:52
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: check the precise version requirements for this app08:52
MaikeruI've tried vmware-uninstall, reinstalling it (the beta)08:52
ThePyromaniacHappyFool aww, but its a problem with installing gnomeboyadvance lol. why does every program installation take me 3 hours?08:52
MaikeruI've also tried installing a version that worked before08:52
Maikeruetc.08:52
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MaikeruI've also tried apt-get update in every combination I can think of (uninstall then apt-get update, reinstall and apt-get update, etc.)08:52
zenroxMaikeru,  read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73955 casue i am having the same prob08:52
ThePyromaniac!at least Python 2.2, and the python-gnome, python-glade packages" which i have..08:52
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, ThePyromaniac08:52
zenroxMaikeru, when it come to vmware08:53
Maikeruzen: I found an article on VMWare08:53
HappyFoolThePyromaniac: all i can suggest is asking in #python08:53
MHaggagsquid0: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does monitor configuration at the very end, and it gives the options to enter refresh rates manually (Advanced mode from the menu you'll get). I'll restart the X server now to see if it works!08:53
Maikerubut it didn't seem to help me, but I was instead told to use qemu08:53
Maikeruwhich is just as good but free08:53
Maikeru(supposedly)08:53
zenroxhmm08:53
ThePyromaniacok thanks08:53
zenroxMaikeru,  can you hook me up with that artickle on vmware08:54
zenroxlet me look at it08:54
Maikerusure, one minute08:54
dougskoim having refresh rate problems too08:54
zenroxi might be able to expand on it08:54
BurgerMannI have a lingual question: does the letter A precede B or does B precede A? :S08:54
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Maikeruhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6563808:54
JDigitalA precedes B.08:54
dougskoi reconfigured a couple times, and it gave me some new rates, but (of course) not the one i need08:54
XemonerdXhi... does anybody know why a benq mouse would not be recognized by ubuntu?08:54
BurgerMannJDigital: hehe thanks I looked it up, but couldn't figure the translation out :)08:55
JDigitalDoes Breezy have good Palm support at all?08:55
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AnswerJDigital:  Palm is java right?  Breezy works with java08:55
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JDigitalI see a pretty Palm icon in a menu somewhere in Hoary but it doesn't work terribly well.08:55
XemonerdXor does anybody know where one can configure a new mouse for an existing ubuntu installation? my gf's laptop doesn't recognize the new mouse at all08:55
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asjdklfjsdklfi have totem-xine running in firefox....when i play movies at apple.com/trailers i see stuff but hear no souund....can somebody please help?08:56
JDigitalAnswer: That's probably the least accurate answer you could have given me.08:56
JDigitalasjdklfjsdklf: use mplayer instead :)08:56
asjdklfjsdklfJDigital, i hate it08:56
MHaggagdougsko: Tried the "Advanced" option at the end?08:56
dougskoasjdklfjsdklf: or vlc08:56
Answerhow the hell am I supposed to type your username in to respond?08:56
gfxstylerpress TAB to auto-complete08:56
JDigitalType "asj" and hit tab08:57
dougskoMHaggag: yup, i made sure to include the rate i need in the range (and then some)08:57
j-linuxHappyFool:  Thanks for you help, it worked.  Acrobat reader now works.08:57
Answerasjdklfjsdklf, Wow08:57
HappyFoolj-linux: good stuff08:57
HappyFoolj-linux: bug has been removed for breezy08:57
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, can you help me please...i cant get sound in totem-xine08:57
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ThePyromaniacHappyFool turns out its just cause i didnt fill in the path to visualboyadvance package. where would that be...08:57
ThePyromaniaclol08:57
j-linuxHappyFool: I'm glad about that.  Can one upgrade to breezy or do you have to do a clean install?08:57
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, when running in firefox08:57
Answerasjdklfjsdklf, is it muted in alsamixer08:57
HappyFoolj-linux: no, you can upgrade08:57
MHaggagdougsko: Can't help. I'm an uber linux noob myself :P08:57
naliothj-linux: you'll never have to "install" again08:57
Answer!tell j-linux about ugrade2breezy08:57
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, lemme check08:57
MHaggagdougsko: However, I'd view the Xorg configuration file and tinker with it myself.08:58
j-linuxHappyFool: thanks08:58
Answerhey where did upgrade2breezy go08:58
Answer!upgrade2breezy08:58
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:58
XemonerdXdoes anybody know where one can configure a new mouse for an existing ubuntu installation? my gf's laptop doesn't recognize the new mouse at all08:58
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, alright im in alsamixer..what do i look for?08:58
HappyFoolah, yay for ubotu ;) ta answer08:58
JDigitalI remember when I asked about upgrading Warty to Hoary, everyone was telling me just to format and reinstall08:58
Answerasjdklfjsdklf, look for it being muted08:58
JDigital- The root certificate from "wiki.ubuntu.com" is not known to Opera. Opera cannot decide if this certificate can be trusted.08:58
j-linuxnalioth:  I hope not.  I have a way of destroying my operating system :S  Red Hat was also a victim.08:58
Answer!tell j-linux about upgrade2breezy08:58
asjdklfjsdklfsurround, LFE and line in are muted08:58
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Answerther we go08:58
j-linuxAnswer: thanks... I'll read that.08:58
asjdklfjsdklfso what do i do?08:58
asjdklfjsdklfunmute them all?08:58
Answerasjdklfjsdklf, unmute the one you think may be muting yoru sound :)08:59
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MHaggagXemonerdX: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will reconfigure everything, the mouse included08:59
flagfrancahow do I install this .deb file containing the w32 codecs?08:59
XemonerdXok thanxxx MHaggag, gonna try that08:59
Answer!tell flagfranca about w32codecs08:59
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, what you have to understand is that they are not programs i am unmuting, they are merely devices08:59
Maikeruso08:59
Maikeruanyone know about my problem08:59
Belutzflagfranca, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb08:59
ThePyromaniacthis is so damn tedious... anyone know WHERE in gnomeboyadvance settings i add the path to vba? and where the hell IS vba?08:59
ThePyromaniaci can find no documents08:59
Maikeruand the entire screwing my repositories?08:59
Answerasjdklfjsdklf, so your sound works in other programs, just not in firefox?08:59
MHaggagdougsk: I seem to have found a solution.09:00
funkyHatis there a command line app i can use to monitor network traffic?09:00
funkyHatrealtime or a snapshot?09:00
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MHaggagdougsk: In the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, there's an entry for your monitor09:00
apollo2011How do I switch the new USplash boot screen from the blue Kubuntu one to the orange Ubuntu one?09:00
flagfrancaBelutz, how do I enter command line mode, man?09:00
MHaggagdougsk: You'll find a line like this: "VertRefresh43-72"09:00
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, yes - firefox running totem-xine09:00
mirakI have a problem with ubuntuPPC. At boot time it fails to mount /dev/root09:00
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MHaggagdougsk: Theoretically, changing the upper limit should fix our issue :)09:00
funkyHatapollo2011, is there a package called kusplash?09:00
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funkyHatif so, remove it. :)09:00
Belutzflagfranca, yup in terminal09:01
kbrooksmirak: ask09:01
Belutzflagfranca, open a terminal and type that command09:01
mirakkbrooks: the module for the cmd64x module is in the initrd and in the config file of the kernel, however at boot it fails to load it09:01
dougskoMHaggag: yes, ive tried that though... no joy09:01
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, got any ideas?09:01
apollo2011funkyHat: that would do it...there is a usplash and then a kubuntu-artwork-usplash package.  I will get rid of the kubuntu one09:01
apollo2011thx09:01
mirakkbrooks: the G3 blue and white have two ide controlers, and the one for the cdrom loads fine, but the one for hard drive doesn't load09:02
kbrooksmirak: not me, sorry09:02
flagfrancaok, Belutz....let me try09:02
funkyHatapollo2011, yeah, that should work :). i don't have kubuntu installed though so i'm just gessing here09:02
mirak the module for the cmd64x module is in the initrd and in the config file of the kernel, however at boot it fails to load it. the G3 blue and white have two ide controlers, and the one for the cdrom loads fine, but the one for hard drive doesn't load09:03
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zenroxMaikeru,  that worked just fine09:03
sivangmirak: maybe I can help you?09:03
mirakanyone using UBUNTU POWERPC ?09:03
Maikeruzenrox: VMWare works for you now?09:03
miraksivang: why not09:03
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zenroxyep09:03
Maikeruhmm09:03
Maikerupm09:03
miraksivang: do you want me to repeat ?09:04
ThePyromaniacfine, a new question. WHERE do packages go?09:04
asjdklfjsdklfmirak, where are the sound config files?  totem-xine does not have sound in my web browser09:04
sivangmirak: if you can :)09:04
kbrooksThePyromaniac: cache?09:04
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BelutzThePyromaniac, /var/cache/apt/archives/09:04
kbrooks /var/cache/apt/archives09:04
miraksivang:  the module for the cmd64x module is in the initrd and in the config file of the kernel, however at boot it fails to load it. the G3 blue and white have two ide controlers, and the one for the cdrom loads fine, but the one for hard drive doesn't load09:04
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ThePyromaniacthanks09:05
mirakasjdklfjsdklf: don't know :)09:05
asjdklfjsdklfok09:05
mirakwhat File system is used for the initrd ?09:05
ThePyromaniacso anyone here use visualboyadvance?09:06
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dougskoi have09:06
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sivangmirak: err, is this a mac issue?09:06
flagfrancaBelutz: thanks man...I think its installed09:07
occyhttp://vba.ngemu.com/09:07
dougskoi installed it through klix when i was running kanotix09:07
miraksivang: yes09:07
Belutzflagfranca, :)09:07
funkyHathmm... is a P3 an i586 processor?09:07
ThePyromaniacdougsko you talking to me?09:07
tarzeaufunkyHat: no09:07
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funkyHat486?09:07
dougskoThePyromaniac: yeah, sorry09:07
tarzeaufunkyHat: 586 is like P109:07
tarzeaufunkyHat: 486 is what was before P109:07
funkyHatso it's 68609:07
sivangmirak: hmm, then sorry, I've never owened a mac let alone make linux ork on it09:07
flagfrancaBelutz: what movie player you use?09:07
ThePyromaniacdougsko do you use a GUI or command line?09:07
funkyHatok :)09:07
tarzeaufunkyHat: 686 is like P209:07
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Belutzflagfranca, i use totem-xine and vlc09:08
dougskoThePyromaniac: gui09:08
ThePyromaniacdougsko which one? GBA?09:08
robbkiddDoes anyone else have a problem with lowercase "r" not being italicized in Firefox? (Using any Bitstream Vera Sans with any encoding)09:08
asjdklfjsdklfAnswer, please help me!09:08
flagfrancaBelutz: the totem version 1.0.2 that came with my Ubuntu distro is not capable of installing additional codecs like the manual shows....Why this happens?09:09
Belutzflagfranca, install totem-xine :)09:09
flagfrancaBelutz: how?09:09
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Belutzflagfranca, in terminal, type sudo apt-get install totem-xine09:09
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asjdklfjsdklfBelutz, how do i get sound working in totem-xine when i play movies09:09
Balduranhi09:09
dougskoThePyromaniac: it was a gba emu, but i used something called klix to install it. it came with kanotix, but u can probly apt-get it09:10
flagfrancaBelutz: let me try....09:10
Belutzasjdklfjsdklf, it automatically enabled the sound i think09:10
ThePyromaniacdougsko whats that? lol09:10
Balduranhow can i start tvtime on a specific frequenzy.. i mean my analog receiver is availabe on the frequenz 543,312 but how can i tell tvtime that he should see at this frequenz09:10
Belutzasjdklfjsdklf, or you could set it up in the xine09:10
asjdklfjsdklfBelutz, can you guide me through this?09:10
Belutzasjdklfjsdklf, pm me09:11
flagfrancaBelutz: Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:11
flagfrancaThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:11
flagfrancais only available from another source09:11
flagfrancaHowever the following packages replace it:09:11
flagfranca  libtotem-plparser-dev libtotem-plparser009:11
flagfrancaE: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate09:11
Belutzflagfranca, don't paste here09:11
flagfrancasorry man09:11
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Belutzflagfranca, are you using hoary or breezy?09:12
flagfrancabreezy09:12
MHaggagdougsk: Regarding the refresh rate issue...09:12
flagfrancathe latest distro of ubuntu09:12
Belutzflagfranca, wait09:12
flagfrancaok09:12
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dougskoMHaggag: yes?09:12
MHaggagdougsk: I've managed to get it to display a 75 HZ option for 1024x768 by specifying a maximum vertical rate of 8509:12
El_Chelet's hope the new kernel fixes the hibernation :)09:12
robbkiddEveryone's Rs italicize appropriately in Firefox, then?09:12
MHaggagdougsk: The 85HZ is now avaialable for 800x600 only09:12
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Belutzflagfranca, do you enable the universe repos?09:13
dougskoMHaggag: hmm..ok09:13
MHaggagdougsk: It'd seem that it starts with the highest vertical refresh rate for the lowest resolution or something, then goes down whenever you go up with the resolution09:13
flagfrancaBelutz: I dont know , Belutz....09:13
dougskoMHaggag: ill just have to keep messing with the limits09:13
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MHaggagdougsk: I tried setting a maximum of 100 HZ in xorg.conf, but it didn't show me the 85 option with 1024x768 :@09:13
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MHaggagdougsk: Whatever you do, make sure you don't fry your monitor (if it can't handle erroneous settings: Some monitors do, some don't)09:14
Belutz!tell flagfranca about repos09:14
jrattner1they should just release breezy today09:14
dougskoMHaggag: yeah i could get my 70 hz with 800x600, but thats crap09:14
jrattner1its more exciting that way09:14
Belutzflagfranca, you get a message from ubotu?09:14
HappyFooljrattner1: random release dates?09:14
jrattner1HappyFool, yes : )09:14
MHaggagdougsko: Agreed :(09:14
MHaggagAnyway, while experimenting, keep in mind you also have to restart the X server after doing the changes (for them to take effect): Press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace09:14
dougskoMHaggag: lol yeah, well if it does fry, i hope it freaking blows up lol09:15
HappyFoolheh09:15
dougskoMHaggag: yeah09:15
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flagfrancaBelutz: yeah, I did get the message.....but where do I enable this "Universe Repos"?09:16
MHaggagdougsko: Ok, good luck. I'm going to *research* this issue in the upcoming weeks (or months, or years, who knows :D). So if you keep popping in here every now and then I'll tell you the solution :D09:16
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Belutzflagfranca, /etc/apt/sources.list09:16
flagfrancaBelutz: Do I have to update this .list file?09:16
Belutzflagfranca, yes09:16
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Belutzflagfranca, after you edited the sources.list file, run sudo apt-get update09:17
dougskoMHaggag: cool, sounds good man09:17
SuseUXflagfranca, just enable it in synaptic09:17
SuseUXmore simple09:17
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SuseUXsettings/repositories09:18
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jabraif I have found a bug should I just submit it to bugzilla or describe it to someone?09:20
Cody`could anyone provide me with a permissions dump of /etc on their hoary installl? I accidentally chmod -R 755 ./ 'd them and now esd doesn't seem to work09:20
shawarmaI ordered a load of CD's a few weeks back. It says my order has been sent to the shipping company... I was expecting to get Breezy CD's, but for obvious reasons they don't exists yet... Am I going to receive Hoary or Breezy Cd's ?09:20
flagfrancaSuseUX: how do I enable Universe Repos in Synaptic?09:20
shawarmajabra: Most importantly: bugzilla09:21
jabraok09:21
SuseUXjust click add and then pick the universe09:21
HappyFool!tell flagfranca about synaptic09:21
robbkiddOkay: Bitstream Vera Sans + Firefox = no italic lowercase r at point size 14.  That's a weird one.09:21
robbkiddVera Sans "r" at 14 point works in OpenOffice.09:22
mirakhi, I have some question about the structure of the initrd09:23
bur[n] erI would Cody` if I had hoary :\09:23
_jasonwhat is the difference between vim and vim-gnome?  how do i run vim-gnome?09:23
mirakin thoery who handles the content of the initrd ?09:23
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bur[n] er_jason: gvim ?09:23
Cody`vim-gnome in terminal?09:23
mirakthe kernel or the bootloader ?09:23
Cody`bur[n] er: have breezy?09:23
_jasonbur[n] er:  thank you... smacks self09:23
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bur[n] erbreezy repos are gettin busy ;)09:24
bur[n] eryes Cody` I have breezy09:24
Cody`good enough09:25
Cody`better than none :P09:25
bur[n] erwell... /etc is huge09:25
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SuseUXmirak, the bootload points to initrd and mounts it on ext2 fs, loads the modules and then mounts the filesystem09:25
bur[n] eryou want the whole thing and subdirectories?09:25
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RockyBurtanychance ubuntu folks are gonna upgrade gnome-power-manager version anytime soon? (breezy)09:25
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TiMiDoyeah in 3 more days RockyBurt09:25
mirakSuseUX: thank you09:25
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RockyBurtTiMiDo: seriously? gonna update to latest gnome-power-manager?09:26
TiMiDoyeah,09:26
RockyBurtTiMiDo: is there a test deb someplace i could try ?09:26
mirakSuseUX: ok, so breezy seems to now use cpio compressed files for the initrd09:26
SuseUXmirak, intrid is useless really, it's for distributions that need wide suport09:27
Xenguywow, 3 days to Breezy09:27
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mirakSuseUX: how can the bootloader knows that it's a cpio compressed file ?09:27
Xenguyawesome, and looking forward09:27
TiMiDotry searching it RockyBurt09:27
mirakSuseUX: I try to resolve a Macintosh problem09:27
flagfrancaBelutz: I found totem-xine on Synaptic....do I have to uninstall this totem (dummy) version first?09:28
SuseUXmirak, the bootloader just points to it09:28
mirakSuseUX: you said it mounts it09:28
Belutzflagfranca, no, it will automatically uninstall it for you09:28
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flagfrancaBelutz and SuseUx: Thanks fellows09:29
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SuseUXmirak, just points to it, the kernel mounts it09:29
Subliminali'm having some mouse problems (it keeps thinking the middle button is being pressed and so pastes text everywhere) the problem doesnt appear on windows but it does on another ubuntu machine, so i'm thinking it's some form of X problem, but i dont know what to do now i've tried a few different mouse protocols and some are even worse, currently using ImPS/209:29
SuseUXmissed out the kernel bit09:29
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mirakSuseUX: how can the kernel knows wich format is it ? is it hardcoded or dynamical ?09:30
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RockyBurtTiMiDo: i'm googling at the moment, still haven't come across a new deb09:30
SuseUXmirak, read the kernel docs09:30
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RockyBurthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/gnome-power-manager is old09:31
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HatchetDawgbreezy is nice but evolution still sucks (at least for me since i have no use for it) a few people have had issues removing it from hoary......even more have had issues after they removed it from hoary then upgraded to breezy........ any reports of tons of hassle from removing it once upgraded to breezy?09:31
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mirakSuseUX: that's to much09:31
kwilcoxanyone have a decent link for getting a VGA out working on a laptop?09:31
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SuseUXmirak, initrid and the boot process it quiet conplex09:31
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PassionLimhttp://www.passioninside.com/screen.png         somebody knows about theme using in the firefox in this screenshot??09:31
SuseUX*nitrd09:32
mirakSuseUX: ok09:32
SuseUXcomplex*09:32
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mirakSuseUX: i am searching a way to know if the initrd is loaded or not09:32
nopleasehi09:32
mirakdon't know what to look for09:32
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AnswerHatchetDawg:  Thunderbird works fine in both.  I don't like Evolution09:33
SuseUXmirak, the kernel umounts initrd whenit's finished09:33
stperehi, anyone using firestarter got google (gmail) blocked?09:33
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naliothAnswer: there is a faq on mozillazine re importing your tbird settings09:33
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Cody`anyone know why esound died after my nice chowning /etc to cody then back t o root and chmodding everything to 755?09:34
jabrawhere do you submit bugs for rc?09:34
kwilcoxanyone have a decent link for getting a VGA out working on a laptop?09:34
jabraif there is a special location?09:34
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Cody`gsudo also doesn't work :(09:35
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mirakSuseUX: I am not sure it goes that far09:35
JDahlkwilcox, it should work without tweaking.09:35
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kwilcoxJDahl: I set the Fn+F2 key in BIOS, but Ubuntu either doesn't recognize the key combo, or something else doesn't work09:36
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baroslwhat firefox theme is used in this scrrenshot? http://www.passioninside.com/screen.png09:37
HatchetDawgseveas: thnx for the recomendations yesterday09:37
Subliminali'm having some mouse problems (it keeps thinking the middle button is being pressed and so pastes text everywhere) the problem doesnt appear on windows but it does on another ubuntu machine, so i'm thinking it's some form of X problem, but i dont know what to do now i've tried a few different mouse protocols and some are even worse, currently using ImPS/209:37
PassionLimbarosl, I don't know, so I asked :)09:38
RockyBurtTiMiDo: anychance you know where the new gnome-power-manager deb is? google isn't being very cooperative with me09:38
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baroslPassionLim, you here! lol09:38
Answerbarosl: It looks like the system theme is set to ClearLooks   System->Preferences->Theme09:38
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PassionLimbarosl, System theme is ClearLooks..09:39
kwilcoxJDahl: any other suggestions?09:39
JDahlkwilcox, no, I am afraid not. I've never had any problems like that.09:40
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sorush20why do I keep getting access denied when I try to delete my files that are on my user space and not the root user space..09:40
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JDigitalMaybe you are trying to delete a folder?09:41
Belutzsorush20, try to run ls -l to see the owner of the files09:41
Rev-Marcdoes anyone have a link to download the Ubuntu DVD'd not using torrent?09:41
Rev-MarcDVD'S09:42
Skidyeah i think i mirrored some dvd's09:42
squidlarkinhi all, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time (breezy)... i'm currently stuck on the partitioning step. it says no root file system is defined.09:42
Skidlemme go have a lookie09:42
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Answersquidlarkin, use guided partitioning, or create a partition and mount it as /09:42
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Rev-MarcThanks09:43
dr_willishmm.. i just noticed that the 'syncing time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org' alwyas seems to fail on every machine..09:43
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JDigitalMaybe the internet connection is down09:43
JDahldr_willis, not for me09:43
sorush20what is everyone talking about three days to breezy?09:44
HatchetDawgseveas: welcome back09:44
Cody`anyone know what permissions esd's files in /etc need to be09:44
dr_willisit  looks like its syncing way early in the boot process also.09:44
Cody`644?09:44
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djm62maybe insufficient time for DHCP to happen?09:44
Cody`got gksu working09:44
annexsorush20: it will be officially released on the 13th09:44
djm62or a problem with card services being started, and network cards09:44
SeveasHatchetDawg, thanks09:44
sorush20Belutz: I'm the owner of the file since I saved it to my user desktop..09:44
SkidRev-Marc: hmph, looks like the dvd's were removed due to space taken up09:45
sorush20annex: why was I told to update before this date..09:45
Skidwhere are you based?09:45
Skidah, the states09:45
Skidi'd probably be a slow mirror, seeing as i'm in the uk09:45
Rev-Marcwe can try09:45
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annexsorush20: well, you should always keep up to date.  But if you mean upgrade to Breezy then I don't know, unless you needed to for something not available in Warty.09:45
SuseUXtons of updated coming through in 5.10RC09:46
Belutzsorush20, that's strange09:46
SuseUXupdates*09:46
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annexsorush20: the preview release came out a while ago, maybe whomever told you thought it was final09:46
Rev-MarcI just can't the torrent thing to make good progress09:46
jwd_how can I get a list of PCI device and where they are09:46
Skidwhat are you trying to download?09:46
Skidbreezy preview?09:46
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SuseUXjwd_, lspci -v09:46
jwd_thanks09:46
annexjwd_: sudo lspci09:46
dazzlindanhow do i install the art manager for ubuntu?09:47
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dr_willisyesterday seemed i was getting updates hittingevery hr or so09:47
SuseUXdr_willis, yer, big ones09:47
CardinalFangHi.  Are there any Canonicalers here?  I have an org question.09:47
dr_willis'592' updates aviliable on this machine. :P  i aint updated THIS one in some time09:47
kbrooksCardinalFang: just ask09:47
SuseUXdazzlindan, what art manager is that?09:47
Rev-Marcthe install DVD I have systems at my church that are not on broadband and the DVD appears to have most pachages09:47
SuseUXdr_willis, lol09:48
annexdr_willis: wait a little while so you can at least break the 600 mark09:48
dazzlindanSuseUX, isn't there an art manager type of thing for ubuntu that allows you to choose a background and theme off of a database of them?09:48
Rev-Marcwell I guess the release is out in 3 days I should wait for that09:48
dr_willisRev-Marc,  why bother waiting.09:49
dr_willisunless you are on slow connection :P09:49
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kbrooksbreezy works09:49
SuseUXdazzlindan, sounds like something off gnomefiles.org09:49
jwd_suseUX: I am tryin to sepcify what BUSid to use in xorg.conf the bus ID for my video card is 00:0e.009:49
jwd_but it just drops me to a blank screen09:49
Rev-MarcI know that is what I am using here09:49
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SkidRev-Marc: once it's released (stable) I'll grab a copy09:50
dazzlindanSuseUX, no... i don't believe its that.  i installed Ubuntu Hoary and upgraded to the breezy preview.  it was on there by default, yet on my brothers system, which i did the same thing on, its not on there.09:50
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Rev-MarcI am on cale modem the church still has dial-up09:50
SkidI can send it over to the states too09:50
Skidso you can download faster09:50
Skidi've got some backup mx crap out there :)09:50
SuseUXjwd_, bus id usually is not the problem i've found, whats your spec?09:50
Rev-Marccale = cablekewl09:50
Rev-Marcman bad day09:50
Rev-Marcthat would be great09:50
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SuseUXdazzlindan, not seen it, if you do tell me :-)09:51
jwd_video card = S3 Trio64 V+09:51
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sorush20I still keep getting access denied for all my files can some one help please..09:51
dazzlindanok i will for sure. if i can't find it, as soon as i get home i will get on and tell you.  my nick will be haslguitar09:51
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SuseUXjwd_, you mean X dont startup?09:51
SkidRev-Marc: poke me, as I'll be in this channel and i'll have it for yas09:52
jwd_exactly09:52
cevizogludoes canonical provide consulting services?09:52
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SuseUXjwd_, what does the driver part say?09:52
jwd_s3: No matching device section for instance09:52
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Tb0n3question: what is the switch for rmdir when the directory isn't empty09:53
jwd_(BudID PCI:0:14:009:53
naliothcevizoglu: yes it does09:53
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jwd_suse : where am I looking09:53
jwd_seems like it picked up the card fine09:53
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jwd_No devices detected09:53
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SuseUXthe driver name09:53
jwd_last line09:53
_jasonTb0n3:  use rm -r DIRECTORY09:53
SuseUXin xorg09:53
bur[n] eranyone know if it's possible to dual boot windows and linux and run the same Thunderbird profile in each so that Inboxes are the same in Ubuntu and Windows??09:54
jwd_s309:54
dr_willisgee am i going have to figure out a way to make xchat 'pause' befor joining this channel - so i dont get bounecd to  #ubuntu-unregged all the time09:54
Answerbur[n] er, I just asked that question earlier today!09:54
SuseUXdid it set that by default?09:54
jwd_Driver    "s3"09:54
sector10anybody know why system:about ubunut comes up error?09:54
jwd_yes09:54
bur[n] erAnswer: try it out yet?09:54
SuseUXwell you'll have to change it to "vesa" for now09:55
bur[n] erI have yet to brave the waters of testing it09:55
Answerbur[n] er, Nobody could give me an idea of how.  I thought maybe using a fat32 partition somehow...09:55
_jasonsector10:  does it for me too... someone told me it was a documented bug09:55
bur[n] erwell.. here's how you could do it...09:55
jwd_loaded right up09:55
sorush20guys my hotplug system isn't working fully... when I try to plug in  a printer it doesn't load the firmware or anything else all it does is to detect the presence and nothing else.09:55
bur[n] erinstall ext2ifs on windows so that windows can read ext3 paritions09:55
sector10_jason: thanks09:55
SuseUXjwd_, so it should :-)09:56
bur[n] erthen edit the thunderbird config to go to your f:/home/user/.mozilla/ directory for it's config09:56
jwd_anyway to fix it?09:56
bur[n] erwhere f:/ is your ext3 linux partitoin09:56
bur[n] eri'm just not sure if they're the same09:56
sorush20I was told by nalioth that the breezy was fully out..09:56
bur[n] eri've never tried to move a thunderbird dir from windows to linux or vice versa09:56
SuseUXjwd_, depends what you need the s3 driver for, is vesa ok?09:56
dr_willisi imagine that for the next month there will be daily updates to breezy :P09:56
jwd_yeah looks fine09:57
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Answersorush20, ubuntu is always evolving... the official breezy release date is october 13th.   but there will be updates after that anyways09:57
jwd_I have an NVidia on the way09:57
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naliothsorush20: oct 13 officially09:57
jwd_should be fine for now09:57
Answerbur[n] er, I've never heard of ext3ifs09:57
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jwd_good point!09:57
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bur[n] erAnswer: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm09:57
kbrooksnalioth: there?09:57
SuseUXjwd_, leave it at vesa and then change it accordingly to nvidia when you have your card09:57
bur[n] erAnswer: it lets you read/write and use as a normal filesystem in windows09:57
dr_willisive used that  ifs thing under windows to read/write ext3's - worked very good.09:57
bur[n] erAnswer: it's how I put my MP3s on my PC to be read by both :)09:57
Answerbur[n] er, ok so why wouldn't what you descrived work?  I did that with a fat32 partition.09:58
bur[n] eru could also use a FAT32 and point both the linux config and windows config at that fat3209:58
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naliothkbrooks: there what?09:58
TedLemonQuestion about kmail on breezy: after the latest update, smtps doesn't seem to work.   But I don't remember for sure that it worked before the latest update - I only just started using it.   Does anybody know anything about this?09:58
bur[n] erAnswer: just curious if anyone has done it successfully ;)09:58
SuseUXjwd_, ofcourse when you get your nvidia card, you need to install nvidia-glx package09:58
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bur[n] eri know how but I don't wanna be the guinea pig if shit hits the fan ;)09:58
Answerbur[n] er, oh... hehe.  nobody that I have heard.  I am actively trying to do that thoh09:58
kbrooksnalioth:09:59
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bur[n] erAnswer: care to share hte experience later? :)09:59
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kbrookssorush20 I was told by nalioth that the breezy was fully out..09:59
Answerbur[n] er, yeah i'm on here most of the time09:59
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Answerwhy do people act like ubuntu is not constantly evolving, and there are 'releases' which can be 'fully out'.  like they're not going to change or something10:00
caonexanybody here with ndiswrapper?10:00
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jwd_suse can you help with one more thing?10:00
Answer!ndiswrapper10:00
ubotusomebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:00
jwd_when I boot up I have no net access until I type dhclient10:00
sorush20maybe he just made a mistake kbrooks10:00
caonexI have successfully installed the module of my wlan0 device, but it is not acquiring the ap. I can scan the essids en everything. It just will not connect, any ideas around this issue?10:01
SuseUXjwd_, what kind of network, NIC, USB?10:01
jwd_NIC10:01
kbrooksAnswer: ubuntu is constantly evolving. ubuntu's stable releases are frozen. no new apps/new versions of apps, only security updates if they dont break ubuntu10:01
ianbillmorrisanyone know of somthing similar to procmail I can run as an IMAP client?10:02
kbrooksAnswer: and i dont know why  some pepole have that attitude10:02
SuseUXjwd_, whats it's name, onboard, PCI?10:02
jwd_PCI10:02
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kbrooksjwd_: lspci -> pastebin10:02
nekostarhello!!!10:02
Answerjwd_:  edit /etc/network/interfaces  add a line that says "iface eth1 inet dhcp"  and a line that says "auto eth1"10:02
Abysmalhey all.. anyone here using kumbutu??10:03
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nekostarso now that i have ubuntu in,10:03
nekostari have my nvidia card drivers in!10:03
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AnswerAbysmal: it is "kubuntu" and there is a channel #kubuntu10:03
TedLemonAbysmal: I've been using kubuntu, but I don't have my kubuntu system in front of me at the moment.10:03
Cody`anyone know the permission of /etc/esound and contents?10:03
nekostarhow can i check that my system is properly set up for my creative sb 2?10:03
AnswerCody`:  ls -l  will show you the permissions10:03
TedLemonOh, cool, thanks Answer!   :')10:03
Cody`Answer: yeah, but I fooked permissions10:04
Cody`hence why I was asking :P10:04
AnswerCody`, ok I look for you10:04
SuseUXdr_willis, I like the was a new kernel comes down and the nvidia driver stays up, precomped for all there kernels?10:04
SuseUXway*10:04
kbrooksSuseUX: No.10:04
wabblei have my laptops 1024x768 resolution when i connect it to my 1280x1024 external screen via port replicator. Any nice fast fix?10:04
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Iam8updoes ubuntu have gaim?10:04
jwd_eth010:04
jwd_or eth1?10:04
_jasonIam8up:  yes10:04
jwd_ifoncfig10:05
nekostarIam8up,  yes it does10:05
AnswerIam8up: yes look under Applications, Internet10:05
jwd_ says eth010:05
nekostarand it works great!10:05
Iam8upi'm downloading it ATM actually10:05
AnswerIam8up, it should be there...10:05
SuseUXkbrooks, so how does the nvidia driver stay ok with another another?10:05
nekostarIam8up, did you apt-get install it?10:05
Iam8upbut um...any page on the wiki or something with a nice list of included apps?10:05
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_jasonI think he means he is downloading ubuntu?10:05
Iam8upno..i'm downloading the unbuntu x86 cd...10:05
nekostarbecause it was already installed when i did the install10:05
nekostaroicic10:05
kbrooksSuseUX: precompiling the driver for all those kernels would make it HUGE10:05
Iam8upyes10:05
SuseUXkernel*10:05
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Abysmalis there much difference between 5.04 and 5.10??10:06
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AnswerCody`:  -rw-r--r--    ls -l /etc/esound10:06
Iam8upi LOVE how it's one cd though =)10:06
kbrooksAbysmal: a lot10:06
AnswerIam8up, it downloads a lot of stuff after that one cd :)10:06
nekostar_jason, is there a way to check that my soundblaster 2 card is in there properly with the drivers?10:06
SuseUXkbrooks, so how come the nvidia-glx package works with a new ubuntu kernel?10:06
Iam8upAnswer - it needs network to isntall? evil =(10:06
Abysmali have a 5.04 install.. will apt-get upgrade work to bring it up to 5.10?10:06
nekostarand how do i do the fps checks for my gfx card?10:06
Iam8upi gotta haul my ass over and wire up a cat5 then...afk..10:06
AnswerIam8up, no, just to download extra packages10:06
naliothubotu: tell Abysmal about upgrade2breezy10:06
_jasonnekostar:  i don't know... I'm fairly new10:06
Cody`Answer: ty10:06
Iam8upAnswer - extra being..?10:06
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nekostarthanx :P anyone else know by chance?10:07
JDigitalI should probably wait for the official release10:07
AnswerIam8up, updates and stuff... I dunno10:07
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Iam8upAnswer - oh i see...thanks10:07
jwd_suseUX: ifconfig says eth0 should I use eth1 or eth0?10:07
TedLemonIs there a good description of how to build a custom kernel that's the same as the one I'm running from ubuntu except for my custom change?10:07
kbrooksSuseUX: i *believe* it installs $(echo linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`)10:07
athlonanyone know an OSS tool to mass convert BMP images to PNG ?10:07
kbrooksor maybe you have to10:07
AnswerIam8up, it will work after the install cd is done :)  but it's not like they magically fit more than 700mb on there10:07
kbrooksnot sure10:07
Answerathlon, gimp10:07
mjrathlon, convert or the tools in netpbm10:07
mjrathlon, convert in package imagemagick10:07
nekostarjwd_, do you have more than one card in it?10:08
jwd_yeah one on board10:08
jwd_no using10:08
nekostarwhich do you use normally10:08
jwd_not using rather10:08
Abysmalthanks for the upgrade info..10:08
SuseUXkbrooks, so you "maybe" saying that the nvidia driver is in the ubuntu kernel?10:08
jwd_eth010:08
nekostarah i would just guess eth110:08
kbrooksSuseUX: No.10:08
Abysmalanyone running a domain/web server10:08
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kbrooksits not10:08
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AnswerSuseUX, the nvidia drivers are in the package nvidia-glx10:08
Iam8upAnswer - overburning, compression...you can get a _lot_10:08
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athlonmjr, thanks10:08
kbrooksSuseUX: that would create a problem10:08
jwd_when I type dhclient I get access and the dhcp ip comes up on eth010:08
Iam8uplook at windows xp - do you have any idea how bloated that thing is? or how many drivers? all on one cd!!!!10:09
SuseUXAnswer, I know that but changing kernels the nvidia driver is still working, that should not happen10:09
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TedLemonjwd_: it sounds like you don't have dhcp enabled in your network configuration dialog.10:09
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speelSuseUX, xp has drivers that work o.O lol ?10:09
jwd_so why do I always have to type dhclient?10:09
Answerjwd_: did you do what I said??10:09
SuseUXspeel, thats totally different10:09
Abysmalbye, bye Mepis.. Hello Umbutu!10:09
TedLemonbecause you don't have it enabled, jwd_10:09
Answerjwd_:  edit /etc/network/interfaces  add a line that says "iface eth1 inet dhcp"  and a line that says "auto eth1"10:09
TedLemonBasically, do what Answer says.   :')10:10
Iam8upspeel - work, yes10:10
AnswerDo as I say, not as I do :)10:10
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jwd_hehehe10:10
lsuactiafnerhow do i make the consoles boot into root? yes insecure ect i know the risks well enough.10:10
TedLemonSo no advice on building a custom kernel?   :'(10:10
jwd_change and reboot?10:10
Answerjwd_, If you want to see if it works on startup, yes.10:11
TedLemonyou could just ifup and ifdown.10:11
ssamlsuactiafner, sudo su10:11
jwd_:-)10:11
lsuactiafnerTedLemon : why do you want to do it?10:11
ssamlsuactiafner,or  sudo bash10:11
SuseUXTedLemon, custom, yer10:11
sorush20guys why is shuttelworth investing in impi when there is plenty of room for improvement and investment on ubuntu..10:11
TedLemonI'm running Linux under VMware, and I need to slow the clock interrupt to 100Hz instead of 1KHz.10:11
sorush20?10:11
sorush20?10:11
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TedLemonAlso, I need to fix some bugs in the IPv6 code so that I can make my DHCPv6 client work on Linux.10:11
lsuactiafnerssam : boot into a root console without a passwd prompt10:11
tritiumlsuactiafner: sudo -i10:11
TedLemonBasically, because I am a freak.   :')10:11
Answersorush20, do you have a link or news story or press release? what are you talkin bout?10:12
tritiumlsuactiafner: but you'll need to provide a password10:12
lsuactiafnersorush20 : because he has a bucket load of money and its his to spend.10:12
Abysmalhas anyone tried kubuntu??10:12
SuseUXTedLemon, using the kernel from kernel.org besid ubuntu kernel is easy10:12
TedLemonabysmal:I have.   It's nice.10:12
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dougskohey guys, if any of you cant seem to pick the correct refresh rate for your screen, i figured it out10:12
ssamlsuactiafner, um, not sure10:12
dr_willisAbysmal,  i find it easier to just install ubuntu and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (or whatever)10:12
ssamlsuactiafner, you want the computer to turn on and get to a logged in root prompt?10:13
kbrooksmmm10:13
kbrooksi love this10:13
sorush20here is what I'm talking about.. http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/impilinux,10:13
TedLemonSuseUX, bear in mind that I am a complete Linux loser - all my kernel dev experience is in BSD.   So I've only evern built a Linux kernel a few times, and it was really painful for me.10:13
lsuactiafnerssam : yes, all the consoles should be logined as root10:13
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dougskook, well, i actually have to go to class now, but ill be back later10:13
annexTedLemon: checkout the ubuntu wiki, looks like theres a few good articles for a custom kernel: http://tinyurl.com/ahgxj10:13
sorush20lsuactiafner: he should have asked the ubuntu users first ..10:13
kbrookssorush20: no10:13
lsuactiafnerdont want to type the passwd 11 times on a secure system10:13
SuseUXTedLemon, http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15207010:13
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kbrookssorush20: it doesnt matter10:14
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tritiumsorush20: he can do whatever he wants with his own money10:14
lsuactiafnersorush20 : bullshit, his money, if you want him to ask you pay him 5 billion dollars10:14
z0undshey, can anyone help me get my mic working? it has worked before but dosnt now? :S10:14
ssamlsuactiafner, can you just fiddle with the sudoers file10:14
SuseUXTedLemon, it dont tell you how to edit GRUB, so you need to find out how, easy enough10:14
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SuseUXjust lilo10:14
Answersorush20, I think he just wants to make a proprietary version based on ubuntu so they can profit.10:14
diemandamn, ftp.heanet.ie should be like the default ubuntu mirror for i2 :)10:14
kbrooksAnswer: drop it10:14
diemanfor .edu higher ed use.10:14
lsuactiafnerand a company with infinite capital doesnt mean it will be more successful than others10:14
kbrooksguys10:14
diemaneven from the united states its flippin' fast.10:14
kbrooksthis talk is becoming too controversial10:15
lsuactiafneri use lilo10:15
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TedLemonGrub I can handle - I've already had to fix it up for VMware.   :')10:15
FarrisG I have a script that does a "du -s /some/path/ | sort -nr > /some/file" every night, and then keeps datestamped copies of the output file. Would it be difficult to use gnuplot or some other tool to graph this data? I've never used gnuplot, and I wonder if it would be difficult since the order of the data might change10:15
kbrooksplease take this to #ubuntu-offtopic10:15
tritiumplease take the impi talk to #ubuntu-offtopic10:15
tritiumkbrooks: ;)10:15
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TedLemonTHanks, SuseUX and annex!10:15
mirak_hi10:15
z0undshey, can anyone help me get my mic working? it has worked before but dosnt now? :S10:15
kbrookstritium: am i right about the controversy stuff10:15
naliothtritium: you find your X?10:15
SuseUX:-)10:15
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tritiumkbrooks: oh yeah10:16
tritiumnalioth: no, not yet.  Have not tried.  I'm not home anyway to try10:16
annexTedLemon: my pleasure, compiling gets easier. I used to do it often enough when using gentoo10:16
naliothtritium: is it monday again?10:16
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mirak_hi10:16
tritiumnalioth: yeah, taking a late lunch10:16
lsuactiafnerTedLemon : i screwed up the first 3 times, but from there its been a joy, saved many more system with my own kernel than i lost..10:16
kbrooksi highly doubt the guys at canonical would ever want to make a proprietary version based on ubuntu just for profit10:16
SuseUXannex, it's like having a third hand :-)10:16
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naliothkbrooks: see RedHat10:17
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Answerkbrooks: DROP IT10:17
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kbrooksnalioth: umm, thats the opposite10:17
annexhehe10:17
Abysmalthanks. dr_w..10:17
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squidlarkinok, so i'm installing breezy, and the "install the base system" step keeps failing at different points.10:17
naliothkbrooks: anyway, -ot10:17
lsuactiafnerTedLemon : like ubuntu wouldnt boot the default kernel, had to make my own to get it working, been good since10:17
mirak_it seems ubuntu ppc fails to load the initrd in cpio format. I checked the dmesg boot log, and with an old kernel that uses cramfs it works fine.10:17
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kbrooksanyway, *dropped*10:17
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PaulNebHaving problems running the Live AMD32 disks.  5.04 and 5.10 both cause kernel panics.10:18
mirak_is it simple to create a cramfs image ?10:18
squidlarkinnow it says "no installable cd-rom was found and no valid mirror was configured"10:18
SuseUXannex, you cannot beat stripping all the stuff out and customizing it for your machine :-)10:18
Answermirak_, where there is a will there is a way10:18
jwd_Answer: nope10:18
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kbrooksi love the ubuntu help10:18
Answerjwd_: and when you start all you have to type is dhclient and hten it works?  you just need to configure the interface to use dhcp on boot10:18
kbrooksit rules10:18
jwwolf88Does ubuntu support SATA drivers?10:19
tritiumyes, jwwolf8810:19
sorush20lsuactiafner: the ubuntu firm is worth 5 billion dollers.. SA10:19
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PaulNebHaving problems running the Live AMD32 disks.  5.04 and 5.10 both cause kernel panic.10:19
SuseUXjwwolf88, it's Linux, still the same :-)10:19
jwwolf88where would i go about getting them? is there a special set for ubuntu?10:19
kbrookshm10:19
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squidlarkinanyone know what i should do?10:19
sorush20l10:19
kbrooksyelp exits after i click on a specific link10:19
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Iam8upcreepy...10:20
sorush20SA10:20
jwd_Answer: how do I do that?10:20
mirak_what can prevent in the kernel the loading of a cpio compressed initrd image  ?10:20
kbrookssorush20: SA?10:20
SuseUXIam8up, bandwith hore :-)10:20
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Iam8upSuseUX - i would've done a torrent...10:20
cevizoglusorush20, watch the go-open videos and see what Mark Shuttleworth says there.. that's all I'm going to say10:20
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Answerjwd_: I thought with the commands in /etc/network/interfaces, but apparently I am not right...  ask others10:20
jwwolf88torrent is the best10:20
Iam8upi love my azureus10:20
jwwolf88dling at 1.2mbs now10:20
Iam8upi don't suppose azureus comes w/ubuntu?10:21
tritiumjwd_: you need an "auto" stanza in your /etc/network/interfaces.  "man interfaces" for details10:21
jwwolf88it better10:21
SuseUXgnome torrent is simple, azurus is slow10:21
kbrooksIam8up: maybe but you need java10:21
Iam8upkbrooks - what's wrong with that?10:21
jwwolf88kbrooks: java is the future get a machine that can cope10:21
PaulNebNE1 good with the AMD64 disks?10:21
jwd_auto10:21
kbrooksSuseUX: um, that could be misinterpreted as a troll be careful10:21
jwd_okay looking10:21
SuseUXkbrooks, no, it's a fact :-)10:22
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Oversighthow can I remove evolution? It says its in use but I dont use it10:22
naliothtake the java discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please10:22
AaronMTsynaptic?10:22
wabblei love my bittornado10:22
SuseUXubuntu's Bttorrent is much better10:23
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Iam8upi've been using azureus so much..i love it...but i'll check out ubuntu's bittorrent client10:24
Iam8upis it like any existing client?10:24
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tritiumOversight: just like any other package.  it'll remove ubuntu-desktop, mind you, which you might want to reinstall when you upgrade to breezy10:24
sorush20cevizoglu: did I say something wrong, Answer why did everyone get upset?10:24
kbrooksIam8up: try bittornado instead10:24
SuseUXit's just a simple interface tha downloads your torrent files10:24
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Iam8upkbrooks - fuck no. NEVER10:25
Oversightif I reinstall ubuntu-desktop will it install evolution?10:25
kbrookstritium: ubuntu-desktop is simply a metapackage10:25
SuseUXnot the bloat of java and azurus10:25
Iam8upSuseUX - similar to that of utorrent?10:25
tritiumkbrooks: yes10:25
runedudehey all, is there like a second mirror to archive.ubuntu.com, because it is really slow here10:25
PaulNebNeed help with the AMD64 Live disks. NE1?10:25
runedudeUS mirror preferred10:25
kbrooksIam8up: please don't curse10:25
naliothIam8up: pleae watch your tongue10:25
tritiumkbrooks: but when it's time to upgrade to breezy, it's important to have installed10:25
Iam8up..sorry..?10:25
SuseUXIam8up, not sure never used it10:25
naliothPaulNeb: ask a question10:25
Jedrickwhere can i find bittorent files?10:25
kbrooksIam8up: you cursed at me10:25
sorush20is anyone here updating their ubunut system or not..10:25
wabbleSuseUX: it's better? Why?10:26
SuseUXsorush20, yes10:26
Iam8upkbrooks - not at you, at bittornado - i hate that client10:26
tritiumsorush20: most likely everyone is10:26
kbrooksIam8up: i love it10:26
runedudegah10:26
runedude48kb/s :(10:26
runedudei want 600kb/s lol10:26
Iam8upi can't stand it =/10:26
dr_willisJedrick,  http://www.legaltorrents.com/index.htm10:26
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kbrookshow do i switch workspaces?10:26
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SuseUXwabble, because it just downloads, thats all, dont give you a java interface and all that crap10:26
jwd_when you put it auto10:26
LasseLsorush20, I did, but it freezes on some old ati cards, if you have one of those10:26
jwd_what does lo mean?10:26
kbrooksjwd_: loopback10:27
squidlarkinso... i'm installing ubuntu for the first time and getting errors. this is the right place to ask for help, right?10:27
gnomefreakhell with a reg dsl connection my max is like 140kb/s10:27
naliothkbrooks: click on your workspace pager at teh bottom right10:27
LasseLkbrooks, c+s+arrow10:27
wabbleSuseUX: bittornado don't do java10:27
PaulNebAMD64 causes a kernel panic.  Athelon 64 3200+, Chaintech S1689 MB (ULI chipset), 1GB RAM any suggestions?10:27
LasseLkbrooks, no, c+a+arrow10:27
jwd_is it necessary?10:27
naliothLasseL: what is that?10:27
SuseUXwabble, never used it, i'm talking about azurus10:27
tritiumjwd_: yes10:27
joaquinzhi people10:27
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joaquinzi've two little problems with ubutnu10:27
joaquinzubuntu10:27
tritiumjwd_: set your other interface to auto so it's brought up at boot10:27
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wabbleSuseUX: ok, azureus east up your system10:27
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joaquinzthe first: when i try to activate vesafb10:27
wabble*eats10:27
SuseUXsure does10:28
gokulhi guys..i have some problems with ubuntu too (not to be a burden)10:28
joaquinzit doesnt work 100% correctly...10:28
sorush20SuseUX: I don't know what but I have updated the xserver packages a few times in the past week, I haven't keep track of their versions but have they been updated so quickly in the past week...10:28
naliothgokul: ask10:28
SuseUXsorush20, I just install all the updates10:28
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joaquinzat boot time, it shows me an error message about that it couldnt find the vesafb.ko module in /lib/module/2.6.12-9-k7/initrd10:29
PaulNebAnyone ever get the AMD64 live disk to work with a Chaintech S1689 MB?10:29
joaquinzand then the fb works10:29
SuseUXI miss compiling :-)10:29
gokulOkay well the first thing was that it did'nt recognize a driver in Ubuntu..but that i'm guessing is that it wont recognize my joypay. Second I edited the config file for my moniter because it was stuck at 600 * 400 and now at random times it kicks out of graphics mode..10:29
joaquinzbut usplash does not :(10:29
joaquinzwhat could be the problem?10:29
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sphivoPaulNeb: What's it saying before the panic?10:29
joaquinz??10:29
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squidlarkinmy installation is failing at random points. anyone have any ideas?10:30
PaulNebsphivo:  Scrolls by too fast for me to read it and it's locked up afterwards. :-(10:30
gokulCould the problem have to do with my moniter? And next when i have my PCI Nvidia card as primary Ubuntu freaks out completly, so i have to switch to my AGP10:30
gokulis there any way to fix that10:30
sphivoPaulNeb: That always seems to be the case :)10:31
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SuseUXwhy would you want to use PCI when you have AGP?10:31
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sphivoPaulNeb: Have you tried booting with 'noapic'10:31
gokulThe PCI is the new one, the AGP came with the computer10:31
sphivo?10:31
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gokulits an Intel 64 MB while the PCI is 128 mb10:32
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Dalkushi, i just instaled OO.org 1.5 and when I ask it to print a document (to a windows printer over the network) it gives no error, but nothing is printed. When I had 2.0 installed it printed fine10:32
Dalkusany tips?10:32
gokulMY computer has one AGP slot that was automatically taken by the computer when i got it (its emachines)10:32
jwd_NICE I think it worked!10:32
PaulNebsphivo:  I've tried noapic and nolapic.  Still panics.10:32
SuseUXgokul, onboard AGP or card?10:32
gokulOnboard10:32
SuseUXthen disable it10:32
gokulTHe AGP?10:33
SuseUXin the bios10:33
sorush20guys I keep getting that the thunderbird packages can't be upgraded...10:33
gokulthe AGP is the only one that works..the PCI Nvidia freak s out..and i want to use the NVIDIA one..10:33
snethey people! i have two hard drives. one with ubuntu installed on it, and the other i want to use to store files on. how do i set up the second hard drive for that?10:33
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Rev-MarcI want to turn off my touchpad and there is nothing in the bios, where would I do that in Ubuntu?10:33
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katzoruse synaptic to install qtparted, create a partition on it and mount it10:33
gnomefreakgokul: what suse is saying is for the installed card to work the onboard card has to be disabled10:34
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snetkatzor: thank you :-)10:34
SuseUXgokul, disable the onboard graphics in the bios, that should fix it10:34
naliothsnet: gparted is installed already10:34
katzork10:34
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qatsihi all :) do anybody knows why i cant use ndiswrapper command ? i get the "unknown comand"....and yes, i have ndiswrapper installed....any ideas ? thanx10:34
snetalso, i was wondering why when i type sudo apt-get install azureus, it cannot find it? i updated my repositories list to that on ubuntuguide.org10:34
gokulGnomefreak: i know which is why i have to switch the primary card in my bios to the PCI and AGP when i am switching between Ubuntu and XP10:34
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gokulis there any more i have to do10:34
gokulother than switch primary card?10:35
sorush20has everyone here moved to openoffice.org 2.. I think ubunut has stoped supporting the 1.1.5 is that right. .?10:35
SuseUXyou just have to disable the onboard graphics, thats all10:35
gnomefreakbreezy comes with oo210:35
AaronMT5.10 comes with 2.010:35
PaulNebG2G. BBL.10:35
gokulokay ill try that...the last thing i wanted to ask because i know this is really silly and im stupid but .rpm files, what do i need to open them?10:35
SuseUXgokul, I would'nt bother10:36
gokulwhy not?10:36
SuseUXbecause it's not a rpm distro10:36
gokullol okay...ill do that later when i am more linux proficient10:36
runedudeis it just me, or all the mirrors for ubuntu really slow :\10:37
SuseUXsaves headaches10:37
snetwhy when i type sudo apt-get install azureus, it cannot find it? i updated my repositories list to that on ubuntuguide.org10:37
gokulalright then instead of that, i remember when i had suse linux and before it freaked on my and i quit linux for a while, suse could see what was on my windows partition10:37
cevizoglurunedude, it's just you10:37
runedudehmm10:37
runedudei get like 50kb/s10:37
cevizoglurunedude, I got 180 this morning10:37
runedudewhy cant i get like 500?10:37
runedudelol10:37
cevizoglurunedude, picked a faraway or bogged down mirror?  dunno10:38
FrdPrefctgoku: Breezy read an NTFS partition off a USB disk I had without any problems.10:38
runedudei picked a us mirror10:38
bimberipopularity :)10:38
runedudethe uk mirror is actually the same ip as the us mirror, strange enough :\10:38
gnomefreakrunedude: the mirrors are being use by a bunch of ppl and it splits the bandwidth. if your running cable or dsl you will never get more than id say 200 out of it10:38
SuseUXwhy do you people even bother with that azurus, I understand it's a choice but a bad one at best10:38
snetSuseUX what else could i use for bit-torrent besides azureus?10:39
Rev-Marcwhat is "azurus"?10:39
Dalkuswhat options should I pass to 'lp'  if I want to print a .swx (open office text file) ?10:39
Dalkus*sxw10:39
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gnomefreaktheres a gnome torrent theres a ktorrent10:39
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SuseUXsnet, Bittorrent in the gnome menu10:39
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Rev-Marcoh a torrent front end10:40
runedudeits just kinda stupid10:40
gnomefreaktheres a bittorrentado or something like that10:40
runedudethey dont even have any us mirrors10:40
snetoh i see, thanks10:40
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cevizoglugeez, it's azureus and bittornado10:40
runedudeus.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.15110:40
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runedudeuk.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.15110:40
runedudesame ip10:40
SuseUXsnet, you just point it to your .torrent file and it brings up a nice small interface10:40
dazzlindanSuseUX, hey.. i found the package its gnome-art10:41
gnomefreaki love gnome art :)10:41
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SuseUXthat one that bring down suff from gnome art!10:41
gnomefreakyep10:41
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runedudeits almost like archive server is on a cable modem :\10:41
SuseUXyer, it was on gnomefiles.org10:41
gnomefreakit brings art.gnome.org to you10:42
kwilcoxanyone know how to ubtain the sisctrl package in Breezy?10:42
airxdresI love GNOME xD10:42
snetthis question isn't really related to ubuntu, but you guys are smart so many u can explain this. I have 2 SATA drives plugged in. during POST when i have only one of them plugged in it recognizes it as SDA. when both are plugged in, it displays them as IDE. should i be concerned?10:42
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jwd_this is retarded10:42
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jwd_now I get the login screen10:42
jwd_login and it hanfs10:42
hwaaratest10:42
jwd_hangs rather10:42
runedudebtw, would a debian etch go to ubuntu hoary fine?10:42
FrdPrefctrunedude: Should be fairly easy.10:42
runedudeok10:42
runedudedebian is pissing me OFF10:42
runedudelol10:42
FrdPrefctI'm an old debian user, but then, I admin many different flavors of linux10:43
FrdPrefctBut, I didn't have a problem at all.10:43
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runedudewell, see, its just the stuff i want to do, debian is just not working well with it10:43
gnomefreakit pissed me off too thats why i now use ubuntu10:43
FrdPrefctI couldn't stand debians release cycle10:43
runedudeeven windows gives me a better experience than debian would10:43
FrdPrefctrunedude: what problems are you having?10:43
kbrooksFrdPrefct: release cycle?10:43
kbrooksFrdPrefct: define.10:44
runedudeFrdPrefct: stuff like dns issues, ipv6 tunnels, bind910:44
FrdPrefctdebian seems to make a better server than desktop.10:44
sphivojwd_: Hangs during the splash screen?10:44
runedudebsd 4 life :)10:44
jwd_I get the login screen10:44
FrdPrefctkbrooks: They are behind on software updates, while, possibly good reasons, it irritates me.10:44
jwd_than I login10:44
jwd_and it sits there10:44
SuseUXrunedude, Windows six year release cycle now :-)10:44
FrdPrefctThey are slow to get certain things out there.10:44
runedudei dont care10:44
runedudexp > debian10:44
jwd_I hit ctr alt backspace10:44
runedudelol10:44
runedudebtw10:44
kbrooksubuntu makes a better desktop than server10:44
runedudeafter i am done the um10:44
FrdPrefctewwwwwwwwwww, di'nt say that10:44
jwd_brings me back to the login screen10:44
runedudeapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to go to the hoary packages, what should i do?10:44
vengefuli cant see why anyone would want to use ubuntu for a server, tbh10:45
runedudei used ubuntu for a server, twas fine10:45
kbrooksvengeful: its possible10:45
FrdPrefctIt has it's uses.10:45
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kbrooksvengeful: server install10:45
runedudefreebsd is the best server platform though10:45
vengefulfreebsd, centos10:45
FrdPrefctYOu can do a server install.10:45
vengefuldont need anything else for servers10:45
FrdPrefctnah, freebsd is behind on smp10:45
runedudei havent seen linux outperform freebsd at anything10:45
runedudeexcept maybe its desktop/X support10:45
SuseUXvengeful, Any distro can be a server, thats a bit of a weird question10:46
vengefulsure it can10:46
vengefulbut can it be a good server10:46
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vengeful:-P10:46
spiralhello again...10:46
SuseUXvengeful, if you set it up right yer10:46
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spiraljust rebooted a few minutes ago after an apt-get update...10:46
spiraland I don't get X working...10:46
SuseUXvengeful, Windows is a crap desktop but if you set it up right it's fine :-)10:46
runedudeFrdPrefct: just kinda annoying.. you finally get debian on a server, and i try to do stuff, and it doesnt work, and those are the only things i wanted the server for10:47
spiralit complains about libfb.a which doesn't seem to contain any symbol10:47
=== vengeful doesnt do windows either hehe
spiraldoes anyone know what I should do ?10:47
spiralI precise : breezy10:47
SuseUXhehe10:47
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gnomefreakonce i found out linux is free to download and it does the same as windows and more windows got thrown away10:47
SuseUXlol10:48
SuseUXnice10:48
sphivojwd_: Sorry, don't know what it could be.  I thought you were describing a hard-lock bug I've seen, but if you can ctrl-alt-bksp, it's probably not related.10:48
spiralplease help me !!10:48
magnustheI'm having some problems taming the HAL beast... anyone around who could help?10:48
snethey; i just tried using qtparted on my second brand=new harddrive, and qtparted crashes on me saying Error: Unable to open /dev/hdd - unrecognised disk label. errore!   what's goin' on?10:48
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SuseUXmagnusthe, whats wrong with HAL?10:48
starscallingyay more crazy questions!10:49
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jwd_does windowmaker come standard with ubuntu?10:49
bur[n] erjwd_: nope10:49
bur[n] erjwd_: gnome & metacity do10:49
gnomefreaksnet: check the bios see if they see it10:49
jwd_apt-get?10:49
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starscallingi installed cvs, then grabbed a cvs module. where is the sucker so i can ./configure && make && make install ??10:49
ScatterBrainquit cd~10:49
bur[n] erjwd_: apt-gettable, yes10:49
magnustheSuseUX gnome-volume-manager is a little too aggressive in mounting partitions on my USB stick, AFAICS HAL is the way to prevent it... but I can't get it to work10:49
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bur[n] erjwd_: via universe though10:49
gnomefreaksudo apt-get windowmaker10:49
gnomefreakinstall*10:49
jwd_i can't believ ethis crao10:50
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bur[n] erjwd_: it's apt-get install wmaker... not windowmaker10:50
zkmasterhi all - I had a question - how do i check what version of GTK+ I have installed10:50
SuseUXmagnusthe, aggressive?, in what way?10:50
runedudehmm10:50
spiralam I the only one who got this bug ?10:50
jwd_it logged in until I got the network interface correct10:50
gnomefreakoh opps sowwy10:50
runedudewhat would be a sign that the transition from debian to ubuntu worked?10:50
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snetgnomefreak: well sudo fdisk -l says: Disk /dev/hdd doesn't contain a valid partition table10:50
bur[n] errunedude: you'd see an ubuntu icon on the "applications" menu10:50
snetgnomefreak: it recognizes the hd on post, is that what u'r asking?10:51
runedudenono10:51
runedudei dont have X10:51
runedudethis is thru ssh only10:51
gnomefreakyes10:51
bur[n] errunedude: oh... got me then ;)10:51
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magnustheSuseUX, it mounts the device (dev/sdb in my case) as well as both partitions (/dev/sdb{1,2})... how do I convince it to leave /dev/sdb unmounted?10:51
bur[n] errunedude: just trust it is ;)10:51
runedudelol :p10:51
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runedudei trust its not debian, it finally did something right10:51
jwd_is there a gnome log?10:51
bur[n] eraww... don't trash debian ;)10:51
snetgnomefreak: any suggestions on my qtparted error?10:52
RockyBurthm, anyone happen to know why my flash refuses to play any sounds in firefox (ubuntu breezy) ?10:52
zkmasterhow do i check what version of GTK+ I have installed - I don't see it listed in synaptic PM, but I see things that require GTK are already installed10:52
SuseUXmagnusthe, I dont follow, usb sticks use fat16!10:52
runedudebur[n] er: :( i've had nothing but problems w/ it10:52
SuseUXusually!10:52
jrattner1qtk10:52
magnustheSuseUX, I have a USB stick that I ran cfdisk on... two partitions, one vfat, one ext310:52
jrattner1gtk-query-immodules-2.010:53
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spiralisn't there really anybody who could at least tell me someone's reading what I say ?10:53
bur[n] errunedude: sorry to hear that... but debian is ubuntu's roots!  gotta appreciate it like you appreciate elderly ;)10:53
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runedude:\10:53
runedudelol10:53
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cevizoglurunedude, you want to do "cat /etc/issue"10:53
bimberispiral10:53
gnomefreaksnet ive never seen that error before that i can remember10:53
runedudecevizoglu: it says debian :\10:53
jrattner1spiral, whats your problem10:53
zkmasterjrattner1: thanks!10:53
snetgnomefreak: okay thanks anyways10:53
jrattner1zkmaster, welcome10:54
spiraljrattner1 & bimberi : recently apt-get updated my breezy laptop, and now X doesn't want to launch...10:54
SuseUXmagnusthe, dont know then, sound like soemthing you did yourself10:54
jrattner1spiral, what does X error log say?10:54
jrattner1spindley, any EE or WW?10:54
spiralwhen I launch it via startx, I get a message that tells me that libfb.o doesn't contain any symbol10:54
OsvaldoGagoexit10:54
magnustheSuseUX, yupp, sure did... but how do I get HAL to respect my whishes? I can use it to change the "label" it uses to mount it (i.e. the name it shows on the desktop), but I just can't stop the mounting altogether :(10:55
robotgeekspiral: try not loading the module in your xorg.conf10:55
hwaaracan someone help me? I've been struggling with this building problem since yesterday basically. I am trying to build mozilla/thunderbird, and it stops when it comes to xremoteclient, some submodule. with these error-messages:10:55
hwaaraXRemoteClient_standalone.o: I funktionen "XRemoteClient::CheckChildren(unsigned long)":10:55
hwaara.../widget/src/xremoteclient/XRemoteClient.cpp:292: undefined reference to `XQueryTree'10:55
hwaara.../XRemoteClient.cpp:301: undefined reference to `XGetWindowProperty'10:55
hwaara.../XRemoteClient.cpp:303: undefined reference to `XFree'10:55
hwaara.../XRemoteClient.cpp:314: undefined reference to `XFre10:55
jrattner1spiral cat /var/log/X.org.0.log |grep EE > Xerrors then post the contents of Xerrors on pastebin10:55
robotgeekhwaara: don't paste in here10:55
hwaara(sorry for the spam)   stuff like that.10:55
bur[n] erhwaara: use that paste thing in the topic10:55
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spiralrobotgeek: it's not in my xorg.conf :-/10:55
hwaarabur[n] er, oh ok, sorry.10:56
naliothhwaara: please dont paste in here10:56
bur[n] erhwaara: this may be silly, why you building it anyway10:56
ThePyromaniachey, anyone know how to use visiualboy advance, or set up gnomeboyadvance? :/10:56
Iam8upwhat does LVM stand for? ubuntu ask me several options for partitioning my drives and one of the options is to partition it using LVM10:56
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hwaarabur[n] er, it's automatically built as part of the rest.10:56
FrdPrefctLogival Volume Manager10:56
magnustheSuseUX, even there were only one partition, how would I turn off the mounting of it (i.e. not mounting a specific USB stick), I still want all other sticks to mount...10:56
jrattner1spiral, explain more about what goes wrong10:56
naliothIam8up: logical volume manager10:56
magnusthe?10:56
hwaarabur[n] er, required it seems.  I have xlib-dev package already10:56
FrdPrefctLets you resize the partitions on the fly10:56
jrattner1ok i see now10:56
jrattner1i didnt see what you said before10:56
Iam8upafraid of that...10:56
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Iam8upwhat option do you think i should do?10:57
=== bur[n] er has no idea why hwaara doesn't just apt-get it
spiraljrattner1: I shall put my Xorg.0.log file on a ftp of mine...10:57
runedudehmm10:57
snetmy harddisk was physically moved to a different IDE cable, the one with ubuntu installed on it. so when Grub loads i get error 5, because it used to be at sda1, now its at hdc1. how can i fix grub?10:57
robotgeekspiral: hmm..it sounds like the framebuffer module or something, not sure10:57
hwaarabur[n] er, that is what I have done already. or what do you mean? it is installed via synaptic.10:57
runedudewhen sshing, i get this error10:57
runedudePermission denied (publickey).10:57
jrattner1spiral, super10:57
apoZ`Hi, anybody got a good downloadprogram for Ubuntu ???10:57
SuseUXmagnusthe, I sec10:57
bur[n] erhwaara: you said "building" so I assume you meant compiling it10:57
SuseUX1 second10:57
magnustheSuseUX, ok10:57
hwaarabur[n] er, right.10:57
robotgeekapoZ`: d4x10:57
spiralhttp://thespiral.free.fr/Xorg.0.log10:57
jwd_could be that I haven't run apt-get- dist-upgrade10:58
jwd_475 upgrades10:58
apoZ`robotgeek,  where to find ?10:58
robotgeekapoZ`: synaptic10:58
spiralif anyone can check it and help me find out what the hell is going on...10:58
robotgeek!info d4x10:58
bur[n] erhwaara: i don't get it... you just said synaptic... synaptic would not be "compiling" it10:58
ubotud4x: (graphical download manager), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.5.0rel-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1164 kB, Installed size: 2844 kB10:58
hwaarabur[n] er, it seems like it's missing lots of x-something symbols. and I can't figure out what I'm missing.10:58
aalihhow can i open a file in gedit from a ftp server without defining it before as a 'connected server'??10:58
apoZ`!info d4x10:58
spiraljrattner1: I gave the adress... hope you can help10:58
apoZ`?10:58
runedudeany reason why i get that?10:58
runedudethe "permission denied (publickey)." error10:58
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hwaarabur[n] er, I am trying to compile the mozilla trunk, but it stops with that error.10:58
runedudewhen i try to ssh :P lol10:58
SuseUXmagnusthe, you could change the policies in /etc/hal10:58
andrejkwHello ;)10:58
apoZ`robotgeek,  what do you mean10:58
magnustheSuseUX, how?10:59
hwaarabur[n] er, I first assumed the problem was I was missing xlib-dev, so I apt-getted it. but still same problem10:59
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robotgeekapoZ`: you can get it via synaptic, or apt-get. it's in the universe repository10:59
SuseUXmagnusthe, i'm not to familier with it, there is a file in /fdi10:59
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spiralmaybe is it either a problem with /dev or devfs, some devices don't exist any more in /dev... :-/10:59
spiraludev sorry10:59
El_Cheany idea if you can copy the thesaurus from staroffice to openoffice?10:59
jrattner1spiral, are you using flgx?10:59
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aalihusing the ftp uri in the open file dialog give an error as if gedit tried to open the file /home/myuser/ftp%3A%2F%2Fmyserver...11:00
spiraljrattner1: I don't find this in my xorg.conf, and I have a nvidia card with the nvidia driver installed via the .run file11:00
magnustheSuseUX, yes, I've been playing with it... I've managed to use it to change the label (volume.label), but I don't know what to change in order to prevent gnome-volume-manager to mount the damn thing11:00
andrejkwI have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?11:00
RockyBurtlol, i just started listening to a podcast via an embedded flash player and the player is playing the podcast in fast-motion, the guy sounds like a chipmunk, anyone ever seen this? (ubuntu breezy)11:00
apoZ`robotgeek,  I can't find it, specify ?11:01
spiraljrattner1: just uploaded my xorg.conf : http://thespiral.free.fr/xorg.conf11:01
robotgeek!tell apoZ` about repos11:01
jrattner1spiral, I'm not sure if that method works for installing NVIDIA drivers on ubuntu, they suggest a different approach https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29%7C%28binary%29%7C%28driver%2911:01
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SuseUXmagnusthe, tell it not not mount drives, it that what you mean?11:01
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SuseUXgnoem-volume manager?11:01
spiraljrattner1: I know, but I can't because I need a home-built kernel, and it worked fine for the last 30 days...11:01
robotgeekapoZ`: add the universe repository and then 'apt-get install d4x' in a terminal11:01
spiraljrattner1: just suddenly broke out today11:02
magnustheSuseUX, nope not quite, tell it not to mount a specific device11:02
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jrattner1spiral, to be honest I dont know, and there's no odd errors or warnings, did you change anything pertinent today?11:02
runedudehmm11:02
sockpuppe1is vlc 0.8.2 in any of the repis11:02
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runedudemaybe im invisible11:02
sockpuppe1repo's?11:02
spiraljrattner1: except the apt-get update, nothing...11:02
andrejkwAnyone?11:02
robotgeeksockpuppe1: hoary or breezy, x86/ppc?11:02
jrattner1hmm11:02
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sockpuppe1hoary11:02
jrattner1spiral, im not sure to be honest11:02
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WeemsIs there a way to add a networked printer on ubuntu breezy?11:02
SuseUXmagnusthe, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fhal11:03
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spiraland I can't even try to relaunch the installation of nvidia because this damn driver keeps telling me X is still working :-/11:03
aalihok let's try another :)11:03
SuseUXtry that11:03
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apoZ`Can't find D4X in synaptic11:03
robotgeekapoZ`: it's 'd4x' small letters11:03
aalihhow can i change the icon used by nautilus to represent some file type??11:03
bimberispiral: i've been having a look but i don't know sorry.  Perhaps try reconfiguring the X server "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (libfb might sounds like something to do with the FrameBuffer bit so try disabling that)11:03
robotgeek!tell sockpuppe1 about vlc11:03
apoZ`tried it11:03
andrejkwI have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?11:04
jrattner1brb11:04
magnustheSuseUX, ah, the HAL spec, thanks!11:04
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MRAdrazHi, im currently using Fedora core but have been looking at Ubuntu, is it worth swapping over?11:04
ThePyromaniacQUESTION Any idea why sound juicer freezes on certain songs?11:04
sockpuppe1vlc 0.8.1 is in the hoary repos11:04
djm62ThePyromaniac: is your CD particularly scratched?11:04
robotgeekapoZ`: did you add the repositories?11:04
SuseUXaalih, right click it, properities11:04
spiralbimberi: when I did this, the damn stuff refused to launch because of DPS-0 which didn't manage to find an available display :-/11:04
apoZ`robotgeek,  what are repositories ? (not englisch)11:04
sockpuppe1and another question, is it better for me to do a dist-upgrade or install breezy from cd?11:04
ThePyromaniacdjm62 brand new and happens on many11:05
darkheartMRAdraz Seems to be a bit strange of a question to ask in #ubuntu.11:05
bam_anyone got exult to work?11:05
aalihSuseUX, that's only change the icon fot that file, i need to change the icon for all files of that type11:05
robotgeekapoZ`: did you read the link which ubotu sent you? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:05
djm62ThePyromaniac: permanent freeze or temporary?11:05
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hwaaraOk, my build error when trying to build mozilla is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2978 . I have xlib-dev already, but it seems like it's missing something like that no? anyone got any ideas/hints ?11:05
mustard5sockpuppe1, its good for ubuntu if you do the dist-upgrade..and good for you if you do clean install :)11:05
qatsiahhhh i love kopete :) the window isnt blinking on every message, only the ones who contains my name :p11:05
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SuseUXaalih, /.icons  and change the icon there11:05
ThePyromaniacdjm62 window locks up and i have to pkill11:05
Iam8upcan anyone explain the "logical volume manager" - wiki seems to be lacking here11:06
ThePyromaniacif i do a dif track it works11:06
aalihthe latest gnome users guide mention a file type preferences tool but i have been unable to find it on ubuntu breezy11:06
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djm62ThePyromaniac: anything special about the tracks?11:06
runedudeanyone know why i get "Permission denied (publickey)." right before i type in my ssh password?11:06
aalihSuseUX, i'll try that11:06
ThePyromaniacdjm62 nope, just a White Zombie, straight from HMV and ripping to ogg vorbis11:06
ThePyromaniaci done loadsa disks11:06
SuseUXaalih, find your icon theme in there and just overwrite the mimetype icon11:06
sockpuppe1mustard 5 so I should Install from cd?11:06
djm62copy protected in any way?11:06
BozeSuccess, I am new to irc, usually just use icq and such.11:06
deliredjm62: my thoughts also..11:06
mustard5is it going to hurt anything?11:06
andrejkwI have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?\11:07
runedudeanyone know? :\11:07
aalihSuseUX, i don't have that dir, what supposed to go in there?11:07
delireThePyromaniac: White Zombie's not put out by Sony BMG by any chance ; ) ?11:07
djm62ThePyromaniac: some CDs are copy protected...I don't know what voodoo dey do, but it sounds suspicious to me11:07
mustard5sockpuppe1, I like clean installs myself11:07
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mustard5but there is all that setting up to do afterwards11:07
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sockpuppe1well then i guess its settled mustard!11:07
SuseUXaalih, it's a hidden one in your /home/username directory11:07
Bozecan anyone tell me if its possible to dual boot ubuntu with anotehr linux distro?11:08
ThePyromaniaci had it on a green day and something else. i have ripped ALL songs from green day other than the last11:08
starscallingi need a little help please? bash says ./configure is not a known command, what can i do to fix that?11:08
sockpuppe1heey mustard know how toget vlc 0.8.2 running on ubuntu?11:08
apoZ`robotgeek,  URL not working11:08
djm62starscalling: are you in the right directory?11:08
ThePyromaniacalso a friend did a copied cd, and it freezes on the last 2 seconds of the final song, lol11:08
mustard5sockpuppe1, nooo! :)11:08
mustard5hehe11:08
mustard5no idea11:08
runedudeno one knows?11:08
starscallingyeah im inside the directory of the cvs i grabbed.11:08
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aalihSuseUX, is empty11:09
magnustheSuseUX, thanks, I've gotten some more ideas of how to do it... just have to wait until I'm at _my_ computer again, tomorrow11:09
djm62and is the file in that directory called "configure" chmod-ed +x?11:09
SuseUXmagnusthe, :-)11:09
starscallingam i supposed to use it like " ./configure <somefilename> " ?11:09
SuseUXaalih, what icon theme are you using?11:09
robotgeekapoZ`: works for me!11:09
mustard5doing the dist-upgrade is good for ubuntu I think because it helps debug the upgrade process11:09
djm62starscalling: nope, usually just ./configure, but the file configure needs to be executable11:09
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aalihSuseUX, clearlooks11:09
djm62btw, thanks to any devs in here...the upgrade process was pretty damn smooth, and breezy has plenty goodness :)11:10
andrejkwI have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?11:10
starscallingconfig.h.w32  config.rpath  configure.in are the three files i have in that directory, should i do something else?11:10
apoZ`robotgeek, not here11:10
sockpuppe1andrejkw thats really weird11:10
djm62starscalling: yes11:10
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starscallingthere is a make file, and when i tried using that it said:make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile.am'11:10
SuseUXaalih, /usr/share/icons/11:10
delirestarscalling: 'chmod +x configure' then './configure' will do the trick.11:10
djm62autoconf11:10
starscallingok!11:10
djm62starscalling: autoconf first, since you have no ./configure11:11
starscallingwhat does the chmod +x configure mean?11:11
ThePyromaniacanyone here use visualboyadvance?11:11
andrejkwI think that is since he's VNCing the PC :\11:11
sockpuppe1pyromaniac I did a while ago11:11
jrattner1is openoffice 2.0 snapshot in breezy?11:11
starscallingso: audoconf <enter> chmod +x configure ?11:11
delirestarscalling: oh, you have no ./configure, then yes djm62 is right, 'autoconf'11:11
ThePyromaniacsockpuppel did you use a gui or terminal?11:11
starscalling*autoconf < ok!11:11
starscallingand is there a way to install configure for the future?11:11
sockpuppe1gui it was on 888dows11:11
apoZ`robotgeek,  url doesn't work11:11
robotgeekapoZ`: might be something with your settings or internet connection. i tried again, and the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto works!11:11
djm62starscalling: autoconf installs configure11:12
SuseUXaalih, just for future messure, new icon sets are in /.icons11:12
ThePyromaniacwould you know HOW to use terminal?11:12
delirestarscalling: configure is a script generated on a project by project basis.11:12
ThePyromaniaci cant get any guis working11:12
apoZ`omg11:12
djm62starscalling: configure is a script, autoconf generates it from configure.in11:12
apoZ`don't tell me i don't got a proper internet11:12
sockpuppe1well let me install on linux and ill try to help11:12
apoZ`i can connect every bloody server except your shit11:12
=== starscalling installs autoconf thankyou lots!
apoZ`you even made it crash11:12
ThePyromaniacsockpuppel i was trying gnomeboyadvance btw ^^11:12
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spiraljrattner1 : finally found it...11:13
starscallingo boy11:13
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spiralI disabled all extensions & managed to start X11:13
spiralthen I stopped it, reinstalled nvidia driver & that went nice this time11:13
aalihSuseUX, clearlooks is an standard theme, at least in breezy11:13
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orugoyeah11:14
djm62one last thing to iron out on breezy: how come I'm not getting my splash image on boot?  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) doesn't find a splash image11:14
orugonow im registered11:14
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orugoi need help!11:14
deliredjm62: AFAIK there is a 'no splash11:14
orugohow do i mount my windows partition11:14
deliredjm62: a 'no-splash' bounty in breezy.11:14
orugo?11:14
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apoZ`robotgeek, now you run away ?11:14
SuseUXaalih, yes but the icons set is gnome11:14
starscallingdelire, or djm62 mind looking in flood for a second? i get errors and i have NO clue what im doing sorry11:15
orugoin kubunut11:15
robotgeekapoZ`: no, i am still here.11:15
bam_nobody installed exult yet?11:15
andrejkwI have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?11:15
naliothorugo: there is a #kubuntu channel11:15
orugotks11:15
djm62delire: pardon? a _no_-splash bounty?11:15
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apoZ`robotgeek, you just made my system crash11:15
KurtKrautHi. I've just installed ubuntu and I'm enjoying it a lot. I would like to listen to an SHOUTCAST radio, and usually I use XMMS for that, but this is not included on ubuntu. How should I use apt to download/install XMMS ?11:15
pupilohh,. nifty11:16
deliredjm62: yes, i'd heard there were moves to remove it.11:16
pupilthats why I went to unregged11:16
aalihSuseUX, ok, so what file i must change?? i changed xchm in /usr/lib/mime/packages/xchm and added the option x11-bitmap11:16
robotgeekapoZ`: hmm...opening url's should not cause your system to crash! i don't know what is wrong!11:16
djm62delire: :( shame, I'm a sucker for slickness.  know what the problem was?11:16
aalihaccording to man update-mime that's the way to change an icon for a file type11:17
HatchetDawgso... BMP is a nice player for my audio .... any recomendations on a multimedia player (current top pick of mine is xine-ui)11:17
aalihbut it doesn't work11:17
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apoZ`robotgeek,  how can i shutdown my mozilla11:17
SuseUXaalih, no just the icon in /usr/share/icons/gnome/size/mime11:17
pupilnalioth, this make is taking forever,.11:17
BozeWill hoary automatically upgrade to breezy, or wil I need to reinstall?11:17
deliredjm62: there's something about it here.. though i can't find the original reference: http://aggrssive.olt.ubc.ca/viewItems.php?fID=155811:17
taliseinso what do i need to do to get Breezy to find my usb stick?11:17
magnustheKurtKraut, xmms is in hoary11:17
djm62starscalling: you don't need sudo the autoconf11:17
pupilnalioth, but as long as it works out,. I'll be happy11:17
XenguyapoZ`: is mozilla 'frozen' ?11:17
robotgeekHatchetDawg: though it's kde, i recommend amarok with xine engine...very very slick!11:17
taliseinmodprobe usb_storage didn't seem to find it11:17
aalihSuseUX, i'll try that, thx11:17
apoZ`yes11:17
magnustheKurtKraut, in universe that is11:17
deliredjm62: sorry, heare is easier to find: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/gnome/112848664911:18
naliothXenguy: for breezy it is frozen, yes11:18
sockpuppe1Pyromaniac i ran into a snag11:18
ThePyromaniacnew question, can i use the 32 bit kernel on 64 bit so it will work with wine?11:18
djm62delire: cheers11:18
chinni've just installed ubuntu, i went through GRUB, boot sequence, login screen, entered my login & password, it accepts it, i get the ubuntu image and startup sound, but then it jitters a bit and i think it locks up. I suspected this after a 5 minute wait and no HD light flashing11:18
XenguyapoZ`: you can do this command-line: ps aux |grep mozilla11:18
deliredjm62: "the "No Splash Screen in 2.14" challenge laid down by Luis" et al.11:18
XenguyapoZ`: then kill all the PID's the are listed11:18
KurtKrautmagnusthe: any other software suggestion in order to listen to SHOUTCAST readios ?11:18
sockpuppe1what is libatk-bridge?11:18
Xenguynalioth: tx - was trying to help someone else with something11:18
SuseUXKurtKraut, streatuner is awesome11:19
djm62delire: oh! that's damn slick too, but I meant the usplash stuff11:19
SuseUXKurtKraut, streamtuner11:19
XenguyapoZ`: e.g. -> kill -9 <pid#?> <pid#>11:19
KurtKrautSuseUX, I'm a linux newbie... what should I type in order to get that thru apt ?11:19
deliredjm62: oh hehe sorry ;)11:19
magnustheKurtKraut, actually I don't really listen to shoutcast... not on broadband (damn BT)... have you taken a look at rhythmbox, it's the default sound player11:19
starscallingdjm62,  when i tried not using sudo it still said "autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: Permission denied"11:20
SuseUXKurtKraut, if it's there then sudo apt-get install streamtuner11:20
KurtKrautmagnusthe: yes, I've checked it and it only plays local files, not streamed audio11:20
The_Voxanybody got a clue what the xubuntu-artwork stuff is?11:20
djm62starscalling: that's because you've put a load of files in the dir as root now11:20
Iam8upcould someone tell me where a suggested partition size for ubuntu is? or how well the basics is here: http://pw1.netcom.com/~kmself/Linux/FAQs/partition.html#basicrec11:20
[LethAL] Artwork for XFCE11:20
apoZ`Xenguy, See pm11:20
KurtKrautSuseUX, I dont think so: E: Couldn't find package streamtuner11:20
naliothubotu: tell KurtKraut about apt-get11:21
djm62starscalling: can you untar it again (you might need to sudo to rm the old directory)11:21
naliothubotu: tell KurtKraut about synaptic11:21
SuseUXKurtKraut, just run synaptic and seach11:21
magnustheKurtKraut, sure? I vaguely remember internet radio being on its list of features11:21
The_Vox[LethAL] : ah! k, that makes sense :)11:21
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[LethAL] :)11:21
apoZ`Xenguy, where is the commandline11:21
XenguyapoZ`: you should always ask before you PM - that's "etiquette" :-)11:21
SuseUXstreamtuner blows them all out of the water :-011:21
apoZ`Xenguy, do not whine11:21
KurtKrautnalioth, thanks for the help. I will read these documentations.11:21
XenguyapoZ`: invoke a terminal (right-click, terminal)11:21
XenguyapoZ`: take good advice when it is offered11:22
djm62starscalling: and you should apparently be using m4_pattern_allow11:22
XenguyapoZ`: since you need us more than we need you =)11:22
sockpuppe1Ok folks I think that there is a bug with gnomeboyadvance11:22
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sockpuppe1or im doing something wrong11:22
apoZ`Xenguy, do you want to help or humiliate me ?11:22
jrattner1how do you restart the kicker in KDE again?11:22
XenguyapoZ`: I'm trying to help, and educate -- that's all11:23
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SuseUXjust run command kicker11:23
robotgeekapoZ`: we want to help11:23
djm62:))) beagle is <expletive deleted> brilliant11:23
zoot_hi - have upgraded to the latest -686 kernel and want to remove the -386 kernels, but synaptic wants to upgrade the existing -386 (forom breezy preview cd) to the latest -386. how can i remove them without upgrading them when i already have the -686 optimized one installed? seems like a bug to me.11:23
seethruzoot_: why don't you want to remove the ones you aren't using?11:24
jrattner1SuseUX, i want to restart it11:24
robotgeekzoot_: you might want to hold on to your optimized kernel. i'll bring up the command in a moment11:24
starscallingok so delete the old cvs directory it made and grab it again! i can do that!11:24
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Tuxedo_Kamenhi everyone11:24
apoZ`Xenguy, I typed ps aux |grep mozilla in task in New Starter11:24
apoZ`but nothin'11:24
zoot_seethru: that's what i want to do, read my post again11:24
zoot_robotgeek: thx11:24
starscallingas for the m4_pattern_allow i can just use that as an extra switch after i use the autoconf command then?11:24
SuseUXjrattner1, is it running now?11:25
XenguyapoZ`: good news - there are no rogue mozilla processes then11:25
naliothapoZ`: Xenguy is watching out for you. there are some nicks (not in here) that if you /msg them, bad things happen11:25
jrattner1SuseUX, yes11:25
SuseUXjrattner1, killall kicker11:25
djm62starscalling: just looking that up myself...I eschew CVS these days11:25
starscallingo.O11:25
jrattner1thanks11:25
apoZ`nalioth, bad things ? omg freaks orso11:25
starscallingwell it has all the features that i want in the cvs of this one program.. im sorry to put ya through this.. but thakyou a lot for the help11:25
sockpuppe1nalioth think you could help?11:25
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apoZ`Xenguy, so what's the problem then ?11:25
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TylerDurdendoes anyone use point2play?11:26
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XenguyapoZ`: what do you want to do that you cannot then?11:26
apoZ`just shut the thing down11:26
naliothsockpuppe1: with what?11:26
SuseUXTylerDurden, sort of11:26
apoZ`huh11:26
sockpuppe1libatk-bridge11:26
robotgeekzoot_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto . read the part "wrapping it all up -> hold that kernel"11:26
SuseUX:-)11:26
TylerDurdenhow come css plays SOOOOO slow11:26
apoZ`Xenguy, ok it worked11:26
TylerDurdeni get about 5 fps in stress11:26
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apoZ`Xenguy, it's gone11:26
zone17Hi, I have just finished installing kubuntu 5.10 on a laptop, doing "xorgconfig" results in command not found, what am I doing wrong?11:26
TylerDurdenbut in windows it works fine. and my drivers r installed currectly11:26
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XenguyapoZ`: there ya go :-)11:26
ThePyromaniacANYone here managed to get gnomeboyadvanced working here? help me n sockpuppel out ^^11:27
elad`How do I edit shortcuts (KDE) to open a certain application maximized?11:27
Xenguynalioth: tx - yes I know how it works with PMs11:27
apoZ`Xenguy,  ah no , it's still there :(11:27
XenguyapoZ`: what is still there?11:27
apoZ`The mozilla firefox thing11:27
delirezone17 do you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?11:27
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, I am not sure if you remember, but yesterday you helped me with ssh... i need some more help with it, can you please help me?11:27
zoot_robotgeek: thx11:27
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SuseUXbah11:28
XenguyapoZ`: that does not describe the problem though11:28
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: if you ask your question to the channel, i'm sure someone can help11:28
robotgeekapoZ`: Open up 'Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor'. find firefox in the list, and right click to kill11:28
Tuxedo_Kamenok11:28
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zone17delire, normally its possible to simply type xorgconfig11:28
Tuxedo_Kamenappears it didn't worked very good. Sometimes I could connect, but out of 20 tries, only 1 of them suceeded!11:28
elad`I want to make boot times shorter. I don't want to wait for RAID and other stuff I don't use. What do I do about this?11:28
apoZ`robotgeek, thx :)11:29
Xenguyelad`: get faster hardware :-)11:29
starscallingsudo cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xchat co -P xchat2   <<- this is the correct command for grabbing the latest xchat cvs correct?11:29
apoZ`new to ubuntu .. :-/11:29
XenguyapoZ`: that was the GUI way - glad it worked11:29
starscallingyay for ubuntu11:29
delire;)11:29
elad`Xenguy: But can't I cut out the processes I don't use out of the boot thingie, like the RAID?11:29
apoZ`yeah not so easy :)11:29
starscallingoops sorry about that wrong room for my other question disregard that11:29
SuseUXelad`, it realy dont make that much difference11:29
Xenguyelad`: sure11:29
apoZ`robotgeek,  where can i find d4x now ?11:30
Xenguyelad`: you want to turn certain service off or on, is that it?11:30
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elad`Xenguy: Probably.11:30
robotgeekapoZ`: now, try that url again :) adding repos!11:30
wrtpeepshi, what is the package name for GNOMe11:30
jrattner1Anyone got a nice gnome screen shot, im curious what a nice gnome desktop looks like, I used to run enlightment but now use KDE11:30
naliothjrattner1: visit www.gnome.org11:30
elad`I want to know both what I can turn off, and how.11:30
wrtpeepsi try to do apt-get install gnome, but it says it has no installation candidate11:30
SuseUXjrattner1, http://suseux.commscentral.net:8000/Screenshot.png11:30
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chinni've just installed ubuntu, i went through GRUB, boot sequence, login screen, entered my login & password, it accepts it, i get the ubuntu image and startup sound, but then it jitters a bit and i think it locks up. I suspected this after a 5 minute wait and no HD light flashing11:30
robotgeekjrattner1: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7813/screenshot16gl.png11:30
apoZ`robotgeek, I just paste this : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto  in firefox11:31
Xenguyelad`: if you can find 'rcconf', that can help.  Otherwise there is always 'update-rc.d'.  You use this to start of stop services for in the future11:31
elad`I also want the Windows Key to do something, like open the K Menu or something.11:31
apoZ`robotgeek,  ok ?11:31
delirezone17: i've never used xorgconfig, having used dpkg-reconfigure to manipulate my xserver configurations for years.11:31
Xenguys/of/or11:31
robotgeekapoZ`: yup11:31
tHirsoI'm getting an error during the base system install (ver 5.10) , is there any way i can identify whats wrong(cd or iso)?11:31
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Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone help me testing my ssh?11:31
charlesbcThe Lilypond package is running quite behind version. Is there a way to upgrade to a more recent version?11:31
superdave42is there a seperate Breezy channel or should I just ask my question here?11:31
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: what do you want to test?11:31
ericzwhen is breezy official?11:31
Pyrosoon11:31
ericzwhen will they ship free cd's?11:31
sockpuppe1nalioth ill post my error messages in the pastebin11:32
apoZ`robotgeek, worked now11:32
djm62ericz: 13th is the official date11:32
Pyro4-6 weeks delivery, so NOT SON11:32
PyroSOON*11:32
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ericzso they should start shipping cd's like... within a month of its release?11:32
naliothericz: sooner11:32
jrattner1SuSE is the weather incorperated into the background? what is that?11:32
Pyrono i mean cds take 4-6 weeks to get to you11:32
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zone17delire, its standard with xorg to simply use xorgconfig. dpkg-reconfigure is a debian tool11:32
robotgeekapoZ`: go through the instructions, add the universe repository. and you should be able to install d4x11:32
djm62any way to help with distribution?11:32
ericzi know pyro, i ordered hoary ones once11:32
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, I need to see if random people can connect or not, and I need help finding out how to create new accounts, assigning permissions to write/execute/read a single folder... those are the 2 things I need help with11:32
delirezone17: sure ok.11:32
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Pyroericz ok ^^ so slow i just ISOed lol11:33
ericzi have no cd burner :(11:33
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: ssh uses user accounts on the machine11:33
robotgeekjrattner1: http://robotgeek.freefronthost.com/blog/images/screenshot.jpg this too :)11:33
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elad`Xenguy: I've installed rcconf. What now?11:33
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, ok, but I couldn't find how to specify the only folder they can use!11:33
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: so the permissions on the machine are the permissions for the user who logs into it11:33
elad`Heh? Why is mzscheme there?11:33
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: by default, it will be their home folder11:33
jrattner1SuseUX, where did you get such nice icons11:33
wrtpeepshmm11:33
sockpuppe1nalioth http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/297911:33
delirezone17: apt-cache search xorgconfig --> xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients11:34
wrtpeepsanyone know what the package name for GNOMe is?11:34
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, but they can ONLY access it, or they will access the rest of the system too?11:34
mjrwrtpeeps, ubuntu-desktop11:34
djm62Tuxedo_Kamen: is this something that you'd be better using sftp only for?11:34
wrtpeepsyea, but that installs so much other stuff11:34
jrattner1robotgeek, what is that in the top left11:34
wrtpeepsis there no package to just install GNOMe?11:34
SuseUXjrattner1, which ones?11:34
robotgeekjrattner1: conky11:34
jrattner1robotgeek, conky?11:34
delirewrtpeeps: use apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop to view the packages this meta package installs.11:34
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: if you make a user account with no extra priveleges, they will only be able to access their home directory11:35
jrattner1SuseUX, like the nice firefox one11:35
apoZ`robotgeek, downloading d4x, tx alot11:35
robotgeekjrattner1: http://conky.sf.net11:35
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robotgeekapoZ`: np11:35
wrtpeepsdelire: python etc11:35
apoZ`robotgeek,  what now ?11:35
sockpuppe1nalioth any idea as to why im getting that output message?11:35
JedrickHow to configure shorewall?11:35
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SuseUXjrattner1, http://icons.deviantart.com/dock/11:35
robotgeekapoZ`: you wanted a downloading software right, there you go :)11:36
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, and how can i set the privileges?11:36
apoZ`this is no P2P ?11:36
apoZ`robotgeek,  So i need FTP's and stuff?11:36
naliothsockpuppe1: no idea at all, sorry11:36
jrattner1SuseUX, cool link11:36
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robotgeekapoZ`: oh p2p...damn! this is a download manager11:36
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: if you just open a terminal and type "adduser username" they will only have basic priveleges11:36
apoZ`I see :)11:36
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SuseUXjrattner1, it's a very cool site :-)11:37
apoZ`Is there anything like bearshare on ubuntu N11:37
apoZ`??11:37
sockpuppe1any ideas11:37
sockpuppe1anyone11:37
robotgeekapoZ`: try gtk-gnutella11:37
sockpuppe1?11:37
nightswimwhat's bearshare11:37
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djm62apoZ`: you can run limewire on anything with java11:37
robotgeekthat too11:37
djm62(as long as it falls within "fair use" of course)11:37
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SuseUXapoZ`, overnet is good11:38
djm62not to mention the BLOAT ;)11:38
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apoZ`SuseUX, where to find ?11:39
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SuseUXovernet has nice gnome intergration11:39
[A] ndy80hi11:39
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SuseUXapoZ`, overnet.com11:39
[A] ndy80where can I find ubuntu packages for Anjuta 2.0.1 ? thanks11:39
jrattner1where are icons stored in ubuntu11:39
naliothjrattner1: /usr/share/icons11:39
pupilanyone read german,.11:39
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jrattner1nalioth, guess that was a dumb one :  )11:39
pupilplease tell me what they are trying to say11:39
elad`Can I have KDE and GNOME running at the same time?11:39
macgeekpupil: i know a little..11:39
pupilmagnusthe, http://www.sslug.dk/emailarkiv/teknik/2005_09/msg00042.html11:40
apoZ`SuseUX,  overnet = edonkey ?11:40
SuseUXapoZ`, overnet11:40
magnusthepupil, hold on11:40
robotgeekSuseUX: in the screenshot, it's all gdesklets, right?11:41
delireJedrick: i used http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm11:41
magnusthepupil?11:41
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apoZ`SuseUX, only e-donkey available for download on overnet.com11:41
SuseUXrobotgeek, yes11:41
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Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, can I ask people to try it?11:41
tombshi all11:41
robotgeekSuseUX: what's the dock called?11:41
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Tuxedo_Kameneveryone, please try connecting to ssh://mykas0.dyndns.org11:41
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SuseUXapoZ`, you can download overnet core and the GUI11:41
naliothTuxedo_Kamen: try what? it worked yesterday11:41
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Tuxedo_Kamenahd tell me if it works or not...11:42
apoZ`SuseUX, specific url ?11:42
Tuxedo_Kamennalioth, yeah, but it doesn't seem to be working now... today I tried 20 times at university, and only 1 of them worked!11:42
SuseUXon the linux part11:42
SuseUXrobotgeek,  starterbar11:42
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robotgeekSuseUX: thanks11:43
SuseUX:-)11:43
SuseUXapoZ`, http://overnet.com/downloads.php11:43
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delireTuxedo_Kamen: it's dumb to do this in one of freenode's busies channels. best to ask someone then msg them the URL. no it's not working. 'sudo netstat -tupa | grep sshd'. check it's up and running and that the port is standard (22).11:43
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apoZ`SuseUX,  forgot to scroll :-/   :D11:44
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SuseUXheh11:44
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Lickerwhat was the commnd to change the Root password?11:44
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, that command didn't returned anything! >_>11:44
robotgeekSuseUX: i think i'll stick to keyboard shortcuts to launch my programs! :)11:44
delireTuxedo_Kamen: ps ax | grep sshd11:44
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threadReally weird networking issue: just recently, this started happening: NetworkManager gets on my encrypted wireless network just fine... but I can't actually ping any of the machines on my network11:45
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, yeah, I have 2 processes with thast name11:45
SuseUXrobotgeek, i'm a eyecandy freak so :-)11:45
threadmight it have something to do with my routing table?11:45
thread192.168.1.0    0.0.0.0        255.255.255.0   U     0     0     0 eth011:45
thread0.0.0.0        192.168.1.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0     0     0 eth011:45
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Tuxedo_Kamengrep ssh and user/sbin/sshd11:45
gokulhey guys im back..i was gone a good while but w/e11:45
robotgeekthread: don't paste in here, use pastebin11:45
delireTuxedo_Kamen: you're not running sshd, one is grep the other is sshd itself. what port is sshd listening on?11:45
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threadrobotgeek: sorry, I hoped a couple of lines wasn't too much11:46
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delireTuxedo_Kamen: sorry, ignore that first statement..11:46
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threadwhy don't I have an entry for the lo interface?11:46
anchovieGNOME is slow at times when many applications are running at the same time, is there anyway to speed it up, e.g. tuning down the visual elements?11:46
Tuxedo_Kamen8860 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd <--- this? I don't know how to check the port! >_>11:46
sorush20guys how do I change the OOo interface font size it seemes a little to bing since I upgraded form OOo.org 1.1.5 to 2.011:46
SuseUXapoZ`, http://forum.edonkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=6914511:47
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[LethAL] thread: Where is the data from lo going to go?11:47
gokulokay i'll just say i love Ubuntu but this is going to be my third linux distro that i delete unless i figure this out. That said i'll just say im a complete lunux newbie, 2 distro's i have tried all 2 have failed on my and have given up within a week. Okay so my question is that in about 15 minutes ubuntu will randomly just kick out into basically dos prompt (dont know the name in linux term.) and then it will just wait a few seconds (5011:47
gokulabout) and then just turn off the pc11:47
gokulwhat should i do to stop this?11:47
naliothgokul: linux takes learning11:48
RockyBurthmm... is there a totem plugin for firefox downloadable someplace for ubuntu ?11:48
apoZ`SuseUX,  which package ?11:48
thread[LethAL] : the lo interface shouldn't have anything to do with my being able to ping other machiens on my lan... I just noticed I don't have that line in my route -n11:48
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gokuli understand..thats what im trying to do..11:48
naliothgokul: check your memory modules11:48
djm62gokul: what does it say on the screen?11:48
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, what do you think about it?11:48
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gokuldjm62: says some stuff about bluetooth, sorry i was soo pissed i just didn't bother to read it11:48
sockpuppe1is thepyromaniac here?11:48
gokulnalith: how do i do that11:48
SuseUXapoZ`, not sure since not used it on ubuntu11:49
[LethAL] thread: Nothing wrong with not having a lo entry in route, that's what I was saying11:49
delireTuxedo_Kamen: 'netstat -tupa' what port is it listening on?11:49
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thread[LethAL] : right... I found the command to add it, and it doesn't help: route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo11:49
djm62nalioth: does the install CD have memtest?11:49
naliothdjm62: i believe it does11:49
SuseUXapoZ`, just compile if it dont work and apt-get the deps11:49
[LethAL] thread: I know, it's not going to help you11:49
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thread[LethAL] : it's the weirdest thing.. I have the ip from my wap, iwconfig shows my encryption key and everything11:50
gokuldjm62 : i dont have the CD ( i downloaded and burt the iso from xp pro)11:50
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, no idea, check this--- > tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN     -11:50
threadI'm connected! ... just, can't communicate with any machines on the network11:50
apoZ`SuseUX, don't understand sorry11:50
threadwhat else is required? routing table looks ok....11:50
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djm62gokul: you have a CD, that you burnt from the iso?11:50
[LethAL] thread: does route show a default entry?11:50
gokulyes that i have11:50
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ndwHi all. Can someone point me to the Gnome knob I have to turn to get calendars to start on Sunday?11:51
thread[LethAL] : yeah 0.0.0.0 => 192.168.1.1 -- the wireless router -- right where it should go11:51
djm62gokul: that's no different to the other CDs (assuming you checked the md5)11:51
anchovieGNOME is slow at times when many applications are running at the same time, is there anyway to speed it up, e.g. tuning down the visual elements?11:51
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[LethAL] thread: no, one should start with default instead of an IP. if not "sudo route add default gw <router's ip>"11:51
gokuldjm62: i downloaded breezy badger version and no i didn't check the md5 out of exitement :-D11:51
delireTuxedo_Kamen: i have "tcp6       0      0 *:22                  *:*                     LISTEN     14405/sshd" which is what you should have also.11:52
SuseUXanchovie, compile a -ck kernel :-)11:52
thread[LethAL] : SIOCADDRT: File Exists11:52
Tuxedo_Kamenhum.... delire, how can I check my current ip in this computer?11:52
delireTuxedo_Kamen: sudo ifconfig11:52
tarzeauTuxedo_Kamen: telnet linuks.mine.nu 6553511:52
deliretarzeau: hehe11:53
tarzeaudelire: ifconfig can be run without sudo, just give the full path11:53
[LethAL] thread: biut route (no options) shows no default route?11:53
gokuldjm62: so uhh what should i do?11:53
thread[LethAL] : anyway, I am unable to PING my gateway ... I should be able to do that even if I'm not gatewaying through it11:53
delireTuxedo_Kamen: to be absolutely sure, i like to use hostip.net11:53
runedudehow do you know if you are running ubuntu or debian?11:53
anchovieSuseUX: That just went right over my head, but when I hear the word "compile" I guess that means "Linux Newbie = Big No No".11:53
deliretarzeau: i realise11:53
SuseUXanchovie, lol11:53
djm62gokul: does anything happen before it drops you to the console? can you log in at the console?11:53
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deliretarzeau: a bad habit..11:53
Tuxedo_Kamenso, how can I correct whatever is wrong with my connection?11:53
SuseUXanchovie, whats you machine spec?11:54
delireTuxedo_Kamen: i would say your port forwarding on the router is munged.11:54
[LethAL] thread: did you set your PC's IP?11:54
Tuxedo_Kamennah, I opened port 22 and connected it to this pc11:54
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thread[LethAL] : I always use route -n... but when I ran route with no options, it showed me 192.168.1.0 => *, 127.0.0.0 => *, paused for like 20 seconds, and printed default => 192.168.1.111:54
gokuldjm62 : okay this is what happens (its happened twice and i am awiting the third), i am basically doing what i normally am doing (descriptive :)) and then suddely it goes back into the mode (forget what its called) as if i had hit CTRL+ALT+ENTER11:54
thread[LethAL] : it got it dhcp from the wap11:54
gokulthen it just sits there for a while, im too scared to do anything11:55
aleitneris anybody using NetworkManager?11:55
Lickerwhat was the commnd to change the Root password?11:55
gokuland then a few (60) seconds later..bam computer just powers off11:55
thread[LethAL] : several other computers are working fine on the netowrk.. this is some problem with my ubuntu laptop11:55
[LethAL] thread: It talkts to the wap but tdoesn't ping it? Are you sure it's not blocking ICMP?11:55
robotgeekaleitner: yeah11:55
apoZ`SuseUX, i don't understand, probably cause i'm new to ubuntu11:55
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anchovieSuseUX: Dell Inspiron 600m, 1.3GHz Pentium Centrino w/ 1024KB Lvl 2 Cache, 512MB SDRAM @ 266MHz, Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB 128-Bit AGP 4x.11:55
gokuli definatly remember it saying something about bluetooth..and some connections11:55
delireTuxedo_Kamen: as i said, if port forwarding for your internal IP to the router is working, and 'netstat -tupa' reveals sshd is in state LISTEN on port 22. then all should be well assuming the address you gave earlier is the correct ssh target.11:55
Takuhi all11:55
aleitnerrobotgeek: did it also overwrite the symlink /etc/resolv.conf with a real file on your machine?11:55
thread[LethAL] : yeah, it should be answering ping. I just tried from this machine11:55
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[LethAL] thread: is Mac filtering on?11:56
SuseUXanchovie, what sort of slowness?11:56
threadno11:56
djm62gokul: do keys like caps lock still make the keyboard lights go on and off? can you type anything and have it appear on the screen?11:56
delirethread: i have the same problem on my wireless router and MAC filtering was the culprit.11:56
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thread[LethAL] : it can only be some update I got... I mean, this used to work11:56
aleitnerrobotgeek: and then ifup/ifdown would keep complaining about this (only a warning, but still)11:56
gokuldjm62: caps lock keys do work..i never tried typing anything11:56
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, hum... but SSH doesn't appear to be configured to port 2211:56
runedudehow do you know if you are running ubuntu or debian? is there a file that says which you are running?11:56
[LethAL] thread: Generally what I did was went down in security then slowly built it up and it worked11:56
anchovieSuseUX: When dragging windows there are "trails".11:56
robotgeekaleitner: doesn't happen for me, though there is no symlink (never was, AFAIK)11:57
threadwhen it used to work just fine and all the other computers on the network are getting on the wireless just fine?11:57
SuseUXanchovie, using ati driver or the xorg driver?11:57
delireTuxedo_Kamen: '/usr/sbin/sshd stop && /usr/sbin/sshd -p 22' to be sure.11:57
anchovieSuseUX: I'm not sure, how do I check?11:57
apoZ`Does anybody know how to get my Network folder selected in Rhytmbox ???11:57
djm62gokul: is the machine shutting down or crashing?11:57
anchovieSuseUX: It's a laptop, and I didn't not install the driver, Ubuntu did that for me while the installation, so I'm gussing xorg?11:57
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SuseUXanchovie, i'm not a ATI person since i've always had a nvidia card on Linux11:57
apoZ`Does anybody know how to get my Network folder selected in Rhytmbox ???11:58
djm62gokul: in your opinion11:58
Tuxedo_Kamenhum.... delire, it showed an error messages, can I PM you about it?11:58
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gokuldjm62: it hangs for a bit just showing the same thing (havnt tried typing) then all of a sudden all power goes out, i guess that is crashing11:58
aleitnerrobotgeek: i am pretty sure it should be one and it is managed by the package resolvconf iirc.11:58
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SuseUXinstall the ati driver maybe??11:58
threadMAC Address Filtering is not active on my router11:58
delireTuxedo_Kamen: ok.11:58
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Pyrowhats the command to move a folder somewhere?11:58
fryfrogso i'm trying ubuntu for the first time on a brand new laptop with an ATI chipset/built in video11:58
dooglusmy breezy box was hacked into I think.  any idea how to fix it?11:58
threaddooglus: reinstall11:58
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gokuldjm62: one second be right back11:58
Lickerwhat was the commnd to change the Root password?11:58
dooglusthread: won't the same thing just happen again?11:58
threadthat's always the only way to really recover from being hacked11:58
fryfrogaparantly, it hates the video chipset... the original ati driver freezes after you try and log in11:58
RockyBurtis there anyway to make the helix player in ubuntu play mp3's without downloading realplayer?11:58
robotgeekaleitner: there was something related to resolv.conf today in the nm-list, might want to read up11:59
threaddooglus: well, also you should learn what happened11:59
delireTuxedo_Kamen: you'll need to use sudo.11:59
runedudeanyone know?11:59
dooglusthread: ok, how?11:59
RockyBurtgah... i need a firefox plugin to play an mp3 embedded11:59
fryfrogwhen i apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, it just... makes the screen blank after trying to startx (and fails anyway)11:59
aleitnerrobotgeek: interesting. will go an check11:59
PyroQUESTION whats the command to move a file?11:59
rob_pTuxedo_Kamen:   It looks like your sshd is indeed bound to port 22 based on your netstat output.  Can you ssh to the box locally?11:59
djm62RockyBurt: mplayer?11:59
aleitnerrobotgeek: thx11:59
dooglusthread: I imagine reinstalling will remove all evidence...11:59
delireTuxedo_Kamen: eg have root permissions. sshd is an important, security conscious server.11:59
naliothRockyBurt: mplayer plugin11:59
robotgeekaleitner: np11:59
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fryfrogthe fglrx driver doesn't know anything bout this stupid laptop chipset either :/11:59
threaddooglus: check the logs for suspicious entries11:59
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anchovieSuseUX: There are no ATI drivers for laptops as far as I know. But I know in Windows there are options lets you tune down your visual elements, such as when dragging windows it only shows the outline instead of the entire window, are there anyways to do that in GNOME?11:59
RockyBurtmplayer? hm... so neither xine nor totem will play an mp3 embedded in firefox?11:59
delireTuxedo_Kamen: i think your port forwarding is munged.11:59
dooglusthread: I did.  they are suspicious11:59
apoZ`Does anybody know how to get my Network folder selected in Rhytmbox ???11:59

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