[12:00] <marska> Ga'h
[12:00] <hondje> :)
[12:00] <marska> They need better names for their programs.. How about Web Surfer
[12:00] <egon_spengler> marska, Try icewm, windowmaker
[12:00] <shinu> how slow can it be... 0.o my p266 had xfce and it ran *fine* :)
[12:00] <Auxin> back..
[12:01] <marska> Shinu: Everything just.. Lags.
[12:01] <hondje> enlightenment is my choice for slower computers
[12:01] <Auxin> anyone here who uses mythtv with breezy?
[12:01] <marska> Shinu: Whats odd, is that the speed between Gnome and XFCE seems about the same
[12:01] <Rev-Marc> grettinngs all
[12:01] <hondje> But I also think Rasterman is a prophet
[12:01] <marska> Its weird
[12:01] <shinu> Madpilot: but it shouldnt be even readable should it?
[12:01] <marska> Hondje: You know Jesus was just an Open Religion advocate?
[12:01] <shinu> marska: text login?
[12:01] <Auxin> the question is .. there are all packages for myth-tv in synaptic.. if i install them.. will mythtv work?
[12:01] <bluefoxicy> marska:  you're probably more low on ram than CPU
[12:01] <Madpilot> shinu: there's no harm in having that stuff readable; you will have to use sudo to modify anything
[12:01] <shorty114> is there an apt package for azureus?
[12:02] <hondje> Who's that?
[12:02] <marska> Blue: I'm running 256 megs
[12:02] <hondje> Does he hang out with Stallman?
[12:02] <burner> shorty114, not in ubuntu :\
[12:02] <Draucon> q time
[12:02] <Auxin> shorty114, y u need azureus?
[12:02] <nalioth> shorty114: yes, but it's better to get it from azureus.sourceforge.net
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  there's plenty of harm in knowing what root may be doing
[12:02] <marska> Shinu: Think its GDM?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Auxin,  i think ya got todo a little tweaking and run the mythsetup program as well.
[12:02] <ompaul>  offtopic for long conversations
[12:02] <shinu> marska: can i view others people's home folder though?
[12:02] <Rev-Marc> I have suceeded in installing "gsynaptics" the package handler sayes it is install but I can not find it any help is grfeatly appreciated
[12:02] <shorty114> nalioth, k, thanks.
[12:02] <RockyBurt> hm, as of the last few days... if i go in to change my icons in my theme, it doesn't work until i log back into gnome ... anyone know what might be going on?
[12:02] <shinu> marska: i had text login ^^
[12:02] <Auxin> Dr_Willis, a howto somewhere? maybe..
[12:02] <spider_> okay, new question:  what do i use to backup my /home to (multiple) cds?
[12:02] <hondje> RockyBurt: bad things?
[12:02] <marska> Shinu: What?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Auxin,  no idea - check the wikis and forums.. then the mythtv homepage :P
[12:02] <RockyBurt> hondje: it was working just a few days ago :(
[12:02] <Auxin> k .. thx Dr_Willis ;)
[12:02] <marska> Shinu: Text login? I'd like to use a dm
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  what if someone as root puts in some command like smbclient with -p (password) on the command line?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> dm's are for sissies. :P
[12:03] <marska> Shinu: Firefox, emacs and everything else lags though
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot: or smbmount more likely :)
[12:03] <hondje> RockyBurt: still working for me, that's rather odd
[12:03] <marska> XFCE doesn't seem to speed anything up
[12:03] <marska> I don't know..
[12:03] <shinu> marska: erm... xdm maybe... but without a dm its hell of a lot quicker imho
[12:03] <marska> Maybe I should just install Windows
[12:03] <shinu> no~
[12:03] <boxerboy29> rev-marc in terminal try typing "gsynaptics" without quotes see if it brings it up
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> BeOs :P
[12:03] <hondje> RockyBurt: are you switching to icons you installed personally, or ones you apt-get'd
[12:03] <Rev-Marc> will try
[12:03] <marska> Shinu: I tried xdm with Ubuntu  just drops me to the console
[12:04] <haasteem> hi, is anyone using zina as graphical interface for their mp3 collection?
[12:04] <shinu> Dr_Willis: i tried that once... didnt recognize my graphic card so it was b&w x)
[12:04] <hondje> RockyBurt: if it's ones you picked up, maybe check the permissions on ~.icons, that's all I can think of
[12:04] <RockyBurt> hondje: installed personally (in $HOME/.Icons)
[12:04] <shinu> marska: unsexy :/
[12:04] <hondje> lol
[12:04] <marska> Shinu: Can you have multiple users through text login?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> shinu,  but it was a fast and pretty B/W :P
[12:04] <hondje> Then got me beat ;-)
[12:04] <Rev-Marc> command not found
[12:04] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: I think shinu was talking about just being able to look at the root-owned files via Nautilus, not anything more complex
[12:04] <nalioth> marska: yes
[12:04] <shinu> Dr_Willis: hehe x)
[12:04] <marska> nalioth: Could you tell me how to set that up then?
[12:04] <marska> Shinu: What dm are you using now?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  yeah but the default umask is 0022, so you can look inside all root's files too
[12:05] <shinu> marska: as i said im just using text login
[12:05] <haasteem> i'm not sure how to get it to work...
[12:05] <marska> Shinu: Okay.. Okay.. How do you set that up?
[12:05] <anathema_> hey seethru
[12:05] <anathema_> there?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  someone needs to fix the default umask . . . :/
[12:05] <shinu> marska: basically you turn off gdm :)
[12:05] <seethru> anathema_: yep
[12:05] <anathema_> hey go to www.pastebin.com
[12:05] <marska> Anathema: I'm sorry but I can't acknowledge you
[12:05] <hondje> wow, I just broke something
[12:05] <anathema_> i am the top guy
[12:05] <boxerboy29> rev-marc: may i ask what gsynaptic does differently than synaptic?
[12:05] <marska> Shini: And how do I do that without messing up my system?
[12:05] <nalioth> marska: text login works the same as gui login. you put your username and pass in when prompted
[12:06] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: sure, but read-only <shrug>
[12:06] <anathema_> see me on the list there seethru ?
[12:06] <anathema_> i cant find the url in lynx
[12:06] <Rev-Marc> I was told to use it to turn off touchpad I am new on Linux
[12:06] <seethru> anathema_: hold on I'll look
[12:06] <shinu> Madpilot: am i able to look at other people's home folder though? (never tried, i only have one user + root :P)
[12:07] <seethru> anathema_: I only see burner as the most recent
[12:07] <marska> nalioth: Sessions work the same way as well?
[12:07] <anathema_> damnit
[12:07] <anathema_> uhh
[12:07] <normal1_> hey can someone help me out
[12:07] <marska> Shinu: How do you turn off GDM?
[12:07] <anathema_> damn how do i get the link in lynx
[12:07] <anathema_> haha
[12:07] <nalioth> marska: /msg ubotu bum
[12:07] <boxerboy29> oh ok not having a laptop with linux i cant help much i thought it was a version of synaptic sorry sir
[12:07] <normal1_> does anyone else have proablem downloading from the backports rep
[12:07] <marska> Nalioth: What?
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  so what if I have something like "login_to_ftp --password secure1" in /root/.bash_history ?
[12:07] <nalioth> normal1_: mirrormax is no longer up.
[12:08] <shinu> was about to recommend sysv-rc-conf
[12:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell normal1_ about backports
[12:08] <shinu> bum looks nice
[12:08] <nalioth> marska: type /msg ubotu bum
[12:08] <shinu> that was weird x)
[12:08] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  or some console ftp program (gftp comes to mind) stores your passwords plaintext with current umask (gftp comes to mind)
[12:08] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?
[12:08] <normal1_> thanks man
[12:08] <normal1_> =)
[12:08] <marska> Normall_: My only complaint is that the packages seem to be outdated already
[12:08] <normal1_> really =\
[12:08] <normal1_> better than just getting error
[12:08] <marska> nalioth: That doesn't retrun anything.. Just makes ubotu say bum
[12:08] <nalioth> marska: backports is not up for breezy
[12:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marska about bum
[12:08] <marska> return
[12:08] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: good points; I'd forgotten that FTP and some other protocols still store passwords as plaintext...
[12:09] <nalioth> marska: you should identify yourself to services
[12:09] <marska> nalioth: Thank you
[12:09] <shinu> anyone can tell me if i can view other users' home folder?
[12:09] <Bateau_> isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?
[12:09] <marska> Nalioth: Any idea when backports will be up for breezy? A few programs seem outdated...
[12:09] <normal1_> so hows ubuntu doing in the linux world ?
[12:09] <nalioth> marska: normal1_: many service await those who are registered on freenode
[12:09] <normal1_> i really havn't checked
[12:09] <normal1_> cool
[12:09] <Madpilot> does anyone here run Folding@Home in Ubuntu?
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  more basically, does anyone NEED read access to /root?  :P
[12:10] <normal1_> is ubuntu climbing up the latter of distors ?
[12:10] <nalioth> marska: let the devs finish with breezy so they can start on dapper drake (and get some programs backported from it)
[12:10] <marska> Shinu: You use bum?
[12:10] <guest_> hey
[12:10] <marska> Nalioth: So I guess bum is a very lightweight dm?
[12:10] <Madpilot> normal1_: it's been #1 on DistroWatch's list for a while now, whatever that's worth...
[12:10] <tritium> normal1_: where can you go from the top?
[12:10] <shinu> marska: nope but that program looks nice so use it ^^
[12:10] <marska> Ga'h
[12:10] <shinu> marska: why?
[12:10] <nalioth> marska: no. its the answer to your gdm question. read the link
[12:11] <marska> nalioth: Oh.. Okay
[12:11] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: can you put your menu.lst into a pastebin (eg: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl )
[12:11] <marska> Shinu: Just that the dm seems to be slowing down my system
[12:11] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, one step ahead of you :) It's right here: http://pastebin.com/388539
[12:11] <shinu> marska: install bum and remove gdm startoff at bootup
[12:11] <Hikaru79> The winxp partition is on /dev/hdb1 so (hd1,0) is correct
[12:11] <marska> And some stupid f*ck is playing madonna
[12:11] <marska> A bit too loud..
[12:12] <shinu> marska: hit him
[12:12] <shinu> shovel!
[12:12] <marska> Gods answer to everything
[12:12] <nalioth> violence in #ubuntu-offtopic please (it has tiled floors)
[12:12] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: it could be limited to read-with-sudo as well as write-with-sudo, I guess...
[12:12] <shinu> sorry
[12:12] <marska> "Oh Lord! What should I do?" God: Bash him in the face with a shovel
[12:12] <tritium> marska: no religion either, please
[12:13] <marska> Sorry
[12:13] <marska> Okay.. I'll do that now
[12:13] <marska> Thanks
[12:13] <Hendric> how can i fix this problem: RPC not registered <-- wen mounting NFS sharing???
[12:13] <hondje> portmap
[12:13] <Hendric> portmap is installed and running
[12:14] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, you still there/ :9
[12:14] <Hikaru79> *? :(
[12:14] <Hendric> this happens when i do a server install.. then adds the NFS portmap packages
[12:14] <Hendric> if i do a normal install.. then this doesn't happen
[12:15] <kemik> Hendric:  add the nfs-packages
[12:15] <Hendric> kemik, everything has been installed.. NFS common, server, PORTMAP
[12:15] <Hendric> and everything is running
[12:15] <kemik> Hendric:  hmmm... that's weird
[12:15] <kemik> Hendric:  and portmap is running ?
[12:16] <Hendric> yeah.. protmap is running
[12:16] <kemik> you got nfs-common on the client aswell ?
[12:16] <Hendric> this only happen when you do a Server install... this does not happen on a normal install.. some kinda bug..
[12:16] <Hendric> kemik, yes.
[12:16] <kemik> sounds weird yeah..
[12:16] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?
[12:16] <kemik> nfs-kernel-server ? :/
[12:17] <Hendric> my other 3pcs done with normal install can mount NFS drives... but not for these pcs with "server" install
[12:17] <Hendric> kemik, i have installed that
[12:18] <kemik> file a bug perhaps.. but sounds really unlikely that it would be a bug
[12:18] <kemik> :|
[12:18] <ajeet>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hello
[12:18] <Hendric> waw
[12:18] <kemik> ajeet:  that's not how you do it ;)
[12:18] <Hendric> watta identify
[12:18] <rerun> hi channel
[12:18] <tristanmike> looks like a new password in your future
[12:18] <kemik> ajeet:  and, erh, change that password ;)
[12:19] <boxerboy29> shouldnt they have those packages in synaptic after normal install?
[12:19] <ajeet> shit, how do I change it?
[12:19] <laserite> hi! does anybody know how can i tell dhclient to log to other file instead of /var/log/syslog?? thnx!
[12:19] <Madpilot> ajeet: /msg NickServ help
[12:19] <tristanmike> ajeet, /msg nickserv help
[12:19] <tristanmike> Madpilot, curses!
[12:19] <rerun> i am working away from home and need a forum link- i am trying to turn off tty3-6, and pie error logs to tty8, but can't remeber the file
[12:20] <slew> what compiler do i need to compile programs? checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:20] <slew> . i installed gcc and cl, but it still wont compile. =[
[12:20] <ajeet> No reply from nickserve?
[12:20] <kemik> slew:  build-essential
[12:20] <rekrutacja> ajeet /msg nickserv help set
[12:20] <slew> thanks
[12:20] <tristanmike> ajeet, no "e" on the end
[12:21] <boxerboy29> nickserv not nickserve
[12:21] <slew> kemik, apt-get build-essential?
[12:21] <Hendric> ajeet, /ns set password <newpassword>
[12:21] <kemik> slew:  yea
[12:21] <Hendric> ajeet, you need to identify first..
[12:21] <olicat> hi all. im using the latest breezy, is anyone else havin problems mounting usb devices?
[12:22] <haasteem> hi, is anyone using zina as graphical interface for their mp3 collection?
[12:22] <Hendric> olicat, there are some issues with usb devices
[12:22] <haasteem> i'm not sure how to get it to work...
[12:22] <boxerboy29> does anyone know if ajeet registered his name before trying that?
[12:22] <slew> kemik, thanks, sending woman over for your oral pleasure..
[12:22] <kemik> slew:  sounds good ;)
[12:22] <tritium> slew: none of that, please
[12:22] <mwright1night> ANyone know what version of oo will be shiped on Oct 13, currently it's an incompatible 1.1.4 which isn't much good
[12:22] <boxerboy29> oo2
[12:22] <olicat> Hendric, do you know if there are any work arounds at the moment?
[12:22] <nalioth> slew: please watch your gift giving
[12:22] <rekrutacja> is there a comprehensive list of new packages introduced in breezy?
[12:22] <mwright1night> it should be worst case 1.1.5 best case 2.0rc2 same build as on the Live CD
[12:22] <ajeet> hello
[12:22] <mwright1night> ie win32 version
[12:22] <kemik> slew:  they're abit stiff in here.. think #ubuntu-offtopic is better for gifts ;)
[12:23] <Hendric> olicat, for webcams there is... for the mysterious synaptic error none
[12:23] <tritium> kemik: nice...
[12:23] <olicat> Hendric, how about usb pens?
[12:23] <slew> nalioth, sorry, a bit of humor went too far. :(
[12:23] <Hendric> olicat, haven't tried
[12:23] <olicat> Hendric, ok thanks, ill keep trying
[12:24] <shinu> marska: any luck? :P
[12:24] <LasseL> after my upgrade it takes ages to log in. nautilus and metacity doesn't the first 3-4 minutes
[12:24] <LasseL> how can I debug that?
[12:24] <fangorious> i have a fat32 file system mounted, but some characters in file/folder names aren't recognized (like spanish accented characters). is there a mount option i can use to fix that?
[12:24] <ubuntu_> Hello all
[12:24] <Hendric> hey, can anyone help me solve this RPC program not registered stuff.. wen mounting nfs drives.. sounds to me a MOUNT error no NFS
[12:24] <tritium> LasseL: there's a current bug that we're experiencing.  Give the devs some time to work it out.
[12:25] <kemik> LasseL:  i'd do a clean breezy install... seems upgrading isnt as painless as one had hoped
[12:25] <Hendric> *not
[12:25] <ubuntu_> I am now running ubuntu live cd only because I think, after two weeks of diddling around with it, that ubuntu is FAR FAR away from a decent OS
[12:25] <ubuntu_>  I use BeOs and found that, even though it was dead in 1999, it is more advanced than ubuntu
[12:26] <ubuntu_>  Sorry guys had to tell someone
[12:26] <Kyral> Here pal you are gonna need it
[12:26] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?
[12:26] <kemik> ubuntu_:  #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:26] <tritium> ubuntu_: don't apologize.  Few will agree with or believe you
[12:26] <Parisi> What is a good free divx codec?
[12:27] <ubuntu_> vlc has most codecs in it
[12:27] <slew>  Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13 gnet-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met... i tried apt-get install gtk+-2.0 but got nothing. where do i get these libs?
[12:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Parisi about w32codecs
[12:27] <kemik> Parisi:  use vlc or get w32codecs
[12:27] <rekrutacja> is beagle desktop dearch included in breezy?
[12:27] <nalioth> slew: look for the ones ending in -dev
[12:27] <rekrutacja> search
[12:27] <Bateau_> isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?
[12:27] <kemik> slew:  apt-cache search <keyword>
[12:28] <slew> ahh.. is there a site that explains all the apt-xxx options?
[12:28] <Burgundavia> rekrutacja, not by default
[12:28] <boxerboy29> rekrutacja: beagle is not in ubuntu default install you have to get it from synaptic or apt-get install beagle or whatever name it uses
[12:28] <tritium> slew: have you tried the manpage?
[12:28] <tritium> Burgundavia: did you ever get the test email?
[12:28] <rekrutacja> thanks
[12:29] <kemik> slew:  man apt-get
[12:29] <kbrooks> Burgundavia!
[12:29] <boxerboy29> anyone know how i can pull up like the funny man pages i installed before?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> tritium, I got one from robitaille. Turns out gmail was too smart for its own good
[12:29] <kbrooks> that you?
[12:29] <LasseL> ... and did I mention that X freezes with ATi drivers in breezy ?
[12:29] <LasseL> just had to hit the reset button
[12:29] <tritium> Burgundavia: sounds interesting
[12:29] <slew> nothing happens when i try apt-cache search gtk+-2.0 :(
[12:29] <rekrutacja> burgundavia boxerboy29 i was trying to use it on hoary, but couldn't get it running. is it more sable now?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> rekrutacja, yes, considerably
[12:30] <satafterh> is there something similar to bearshare for linux
[12:30] <win> why does ubuntu use a different version system from debian?
[12:30] <boxerboy29> rekrutacja: i had it on suse and i hated it so i didnt bother with it on breezy
[12:30] <Burgundavia> win, what do you mean?
[12:30] <nalioth> satafterh: gtk-gnutella
[12:30] <boxerboy29> win: ubuntu isnt debian its debian based
[12:31] <win> i know
[12:31] <satafterh> i tried gtk-gnutella, found it very slow to download, is there something eles
[12:31] <boxerboy29> if im not mistaken debian uses the 22.4 kernel still
[12:31] <rekrutacja> boxerboy29 desktop search is a mission critical aplication for me: is there anything except beagle what gives me that funcionality?
[12:31] <jintxo> hi guys, anyone experiencing wierd squid errors (mostly when accessing passport.com or hotmail accounts) lately (squid on warty)
[12:31] <boxerboy29> 2.4*
[12:31] <jintxo> ?
[12:31] <nalioth> satafterh: gnut or mutella
[12:31] <win> but if ubuntu use the same version system , it would benefit the whole community
[12:32] <Burgundavia> win, I don't understand what you mean
[12:32] <kemik> boxerboy29:  at least the stablebranch does
[12:32] <nalioth> win: ubuntu and debian. while sharing a source base, are two different animals
[12:32] <HrdwrBob> boxerboy29: stable yes, unstable no
[12:32] <tritium> win: there's no need for it
[12:32] <boxerboy29> no sorry i dont know i dont use desktop search ultilties
[12:32] <satafterh> gnut or mutella whick is better?
[12:32] <boxerboy29> stable=sarge etch is beta still
[12:32] <nalioth> satafterh: use them both. and keep what you like
[12:33] <Burgundavia> rekrutacja, there is a python based beagle, but I have no idea how far along it is
[12:33] <boxerboy29> the point being ubuntu is not debian so things are gonna be different or it would be called debian ubuntu as it is with debian sarge
[12:33] <funkyHat> boxerboy29, you can easily select a 2.6 kernel for debian if you want ;)
[12:34] <funkyHat> but by default, yes, sarge is 2.4
[12:34] <funkyHat> win, debian and ubuntu serve different purposes
[12:34] <boxerboy29> yes that i know
[12:35] <win> well, i download the opera browser with .deb and it does not work with ubuntu, and i find out that ubuntu use different version system which i think is unnessary
[12:35] <feaces> hello all
[12:35] <Madpilot> win: there is a Ubuntu deb for Opera; I'm running it right now.
[12:35] <rekrutacja> burgundavia i will look for it, but i dont like usuing beta software that much...
[12:35] <boxerboy29> it works if you use the ubuntu download for it and follow the install steps 3 times over :) j/k
[12:35] <win> now other developer has to build another package just to provide another distro
[12:35] <shorty114> k i downloaded azureus but it came with this message:
[12:35] <feaces> hey i got the linux vershion of quake 3
[12:35] <Burgundavia> win, read this http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[12:35] <shorty114>  $ ./azureus
[12:35] <shorty114> Starting Azureus...
[12:35] <shorty114> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[12:35] <shorty114> ls: /usr/java: No such file or directory
[12:35] <shorty114> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[12:35] <shorty114> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[12:35] <Burgundavia> win, specifically, this question --> What about binary compatibility between distributions?
[12:36] <feaces> and i did the sh setup.sh script to install
[12:36] <tritium> win: no, not really
[12:36] <feaces> but it didn't gave me a bunch of errors
[12:36] <nalioth> shorty114: please dont paste in here
[12:36] <feaces> sorry
[12:36] <newob> question - how can you get the kernel sources after the update - can you just go to kernel.org?
[12:37] <nalioth> newob: they are available to you. use synaptic
[12:37] <tritium> newob: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 (on hoary)
[12:37] <win> burgundavia: between which distributions?
[12:37] <tritium> 2.6.12 on breezy
[12:37] <newob> ya im breezy
[12:37] <RockyBurt> hm... when i try using menu's in firefox, the menu starts in an odd place  (see http://users.carterscove.com/~rocky/screenshot.jpg) .. anyone ever had that happen?
[12:37] <newob> it wasnt in the list
[12:37] <Burgundavia> win, between any distro, and internally within Ubuntu
[12:37] <shorty114> is J2SE the same as JRE?
[12:37] <shorty114> i can't find JRE in the sidebar list on java.sun.com
[12:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shorty114 about javadeb
[12:38] <boxerboy29> no not really i think j2se is full package jre is just the run time envornment
[12:38] <tritium> newob: it's there.  apt-cache search linux-source
[12:38] <shorty114> nalioth, it's the J2RE one, right?
[12:39] <newob> so do i just apt-get that?
[12:39] <tritium> newob: yep
[12:39] <ebby> why dont avi's work out of the box in totem ???
[12:39] <nalioth> shorty114: for the runtime, yes
[12:39] <Madpilot> ebby: because someone owns the avi format
[12:39] <shorty114> k thanks
[12:39] <Madpilot> !tell ebby about restricted
[12:40] <ebby> hm I had no idea avi was proprieary
[12:40] <shorty114> ebby, microsoft's great, eh?
[12:40] <frickel> can I change the sources.list enty http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe to http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe ???
[12:40] <ebby> shorty114, lovely ;-)
[12:40] <Madpilot> ebby: check the msg ubotu just sent you, that URL will take you thru installing all the codecs and stuff you need
[12:40] <nalioth> frickel: yes, change hoary to breezy
[12:41] <shorty114> nalioth, i dpkg -i'd the package file, and it went through alright, but when i try to run azureus again, it can't find the java binary
[12:41] <ebby> Madpilot, checking...
[12:41] <cold> hmm
[12:41] <nalioth> shorty114: use synaptic to get rid of all your gnu java stuff
[12:41] <frickel> nalioth so I can change every hoary to breezy? also the hoary-update?
[12:41] <shorty114> k
[12:41] <Se7h> damn i still have my pkg list broken, can anyone help me to fix it ?
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell frickel about upgrade2breezy
[12:41] <cold> doesn't ubuntu have a good library of software dev tools?
[12:41] <cold> does*
[12:42] <nalioth> cold: yes it does. start with build-essential
[12:42] <Burgundavia> cold, anything that is in debian is in Ubuntu, and more
[12:42] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know of a better cd ripper than sound juicer?  one thta supports CDDB or FreeDB hopefully?
[12:42] <Se7h> cold texteditor is good :P
[12:42] <n0odl3> i need help with playing "restricted formats"
[12:42] <slew> ubuntu hates me. =[ i cant figure out how to install gtk+-2.0
[12:42] <nalioth> FunnyLookinHat: try grip
[12:42] <cold> hmm ok
[12:42] <n0odl3> i went to the page and followed the instructions but for some reason i still cant play mpegs
[12:42] <FunnyLookinHat> nalioth: thanks
[12:42] <kemik> !tell n0odl3 about restricted
[12:42] <cold> thanks guys
[12:42] <cold> I'm going to order the cds
[12:42] <n0odl3> kemik i already went to this page
[12:43] <nalioth> slew: look for the libgtk-bleh"-dev" pkgs
[12:43] <n0odl3> i followed the instructions but it still does not work
[12:43] <boxerboy29> slew try searching for it in synaptic it should be there
[12:43] <slew> i tried looking in synaptic but its not there. =[
[12:43] <frickel> nalioth: I know this page, but this html only tells to change this entry: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[12:44] <shorty114> nalioth, java-common?
[12:44] <nalioth> frickel: every place you see "hoary" change it. dont use backports (they are not up yet for breezy)
[12:44] <shorty114> i searched for "java" and out of the search results, it's the only one that is installed
[12:44] <n0odl3> everytime i run the "apt-get isntall totem-xine gstreamer0.8..." command i get that the package is unavailable
[12:44] <slew> couldnt find package libgtk-2.0
[12:44] <nalioth> shorty114: just remove all java stuff (search in 'pkg names and contents") and reinstall your javadeb
[12:44] <boxerboy29> upgrading to breezy all entries should be changed to breezy with the excetion to the backports they should be taken out if useing the mirrormax backports
[12:45] <frickel> nalioth: what do you mean: no backports?
[12:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slew about synaptic
[12:45] <n0odl3> does anyone know whats wrong?
[12:45] <boxerboy29> exception even
[12:45] <nalioth> frickel: backports are not out for breezy, yet. having them in your sources.list is useless at this time
[12:45] <Se7h> n0odl3 use synaptic
[12:45] <n0odl3> how do i use synaptic?
[12:46] <n0odl3> how would i go about using it?
[12:46] <Se7h> 'synaptic'
[12:46] <n0odl3> ?
[12:46] <frickel> nalioth: ok, thx nalioth
[12:46] <n0odl3> do i just type it in
[12:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about synaptic
[12:46] <boxerboy29> system-admin-synaptic package manager
[12:46] <Se7h> 'sudo synaptic'
[12:46] <newob> i did sudo apt-get install kernel source - it told me to select one - but there is not one that matches my current one in the list
[12:46] <Se7h> /var/lib/dpkg/info/eclipse-jdt.postrm: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[12:47] <Se7h> thats whats annoying my mind for days
[12:47] <Se7h> and remove it
[12:47] <Se7h> nor install it
[12:47] <JDigital> Synaptic is available in the System -> Adminstration menu
[12:47] <Se7h> *i cant remove it
[12:47] <shorty114> nalioth, do i want to remove java-common?
[12:47] <RockyBurt> bah, why is it that whenever i open any window it opens maximized?
[12:48] <nalioth> shorty114: yes
[12:48] <shorty114> k
[12:48] <Se7h> does anyone has a good answer for me ?
[12:48] <Bateau_> isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?
[12:48] <Se7h> (hint)
[12:49] <Maikeru> whereis php
[12:49] <Maikeru> whereis php4
[12:49] <newob> anwer for what ?
[12:49] <Maikeru> whereis php3
[12:49] <newob> answer
[12:49] <Maikeru> w/e it is
[12:49] <n0odl3> wait i got synaptic out but the gstreamer package and the totem package is blocked out
[12:49] <Blejdfist> /usr/bin/php4
[12:49] <frickel> ubotu: tell frickel about synaptic
[12:49] <Se7h> newob for my half-installed eclipse that i cant remove
[12:49] <frickel> hehe, this bot is nice
[12:49] <newob> you did a search in synaptic?
[12:50] <Se7h> newob come again ?
[12:50] <nalioth> frickel: you need to identify to services to use ubotu effectively
[12:50] <newob> did you install it from command line ?
[12:50] <Se7h> newob i've tried all the ways
[12:50] <Se7h> prob is
[12:50] <frickel> nalioth: how can I identify to services
[12:50] <Se7h> the pkg is bogus
[12:50] <nalioth> frickel: /msg nickserv help register
[12:50] <Blejdfist> ubotu: tell Blejdfist about the answer to life, the universe and everything
[12:51] <Se7h> and know i cant remove it nor complete the installation
[12:51] <Blejdfist> :(
[12:51] <newob> so maybe check actual package and search hard drive for those files and delete them?
[12:51] <shorty114> nalioth, same problem when i try to run azureus
[12:51] <Kyral> Anyone know how I would set my current iptables rules to come into effect when I start my machine?
[12:51] <nalioth> shorty114: you probably have not removed all your java
[12:52] <newob> linux headers = kernel source ?
[12:52] <shorty114> nalioth, i removed java-common, another java package
[12:52] <n0odl3> when i follow the directions on the restricted page
[12:52] <molarman> I need help
[12:52] <n0odl3> at the point where i type sudo apt-get update
[12:52] <newob> speak up
[12:52] <nalioth> molarman: we need a question
[12:52] <n0odl3> i get some errors saying
[12:52] <molarman> what are the supported web cam for ubuntu?
[12:52] <newob> well what are they?
[12:53] <n0odl3> lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[12:53] <boxerboy29> you have anoither apt session going somewhere?
[12:53] <n0odl3> and also unable to lock administration
[12:53] <n0odl3> etc
[12:53] <Kyral> anyone?
[12:53] <boxerboy29> that was for n0odl3
[12:53] <n0odl3> oh
[12:53] <n0odl3> so what should i do?
[12:53] <n0odl3> boxerboy29?
[12:53] <boxerboy29> n0odl3: also try sudo apt-get update
[12:53] <molarman> what are the supported webcams for ubuntu?
[12:54] <n0odl3> k ill try now
[12:54] <nalioth> n0odl3: you can only run one instance of apt-get at a time (and you have to use sudo to do it)
[12:54] <newob> the cheapest ones probably
[12:54] <n0odl3> i am sudo right now
[12:54] <newob> like any hardware
[12:54] <nalioth> n0odl3: then close all your apt instances
[12:54] <whein> ok guys im having serious X troubles out of the blue here
[12:54] <n0odl3> how do i close all my apt instances?
[12:54] <boxerboy29> synaptic=an apt session
[12:54] <ompaul> n0odl3, are you running syaptic ?
[12:55] <nalioth> n0odl3: check all your windows and close all apt-get synaptic adept kynaptic kpackage aptitude or dpkg
[12:55] <boxerboy29> also save and close the sources list
[12:55] <whein> when i login via the gdm then it tryes to start X it gives me some error that ICEsomething doesnt have uid=0 so it cant create /dev/X
[12:55] <whein> so then x doesnt start
[12:55] <n0odl3> i did save and close the sources list
[12:55] <jintxo> hi guys, anyone experiencing wierd squid errors (mostly when accessing passport.com or hotmail accounts) lately (squid on warty)?
[12:55] <whein> i closed X and logged in as root then started X and it worked
[12:56] <whein> but i dont wanna run as root
[12:56] <n0odl3> whgen i tried the sudo get update
[12:56] <n0odl3> i got a GPG error
[12:56] <FR500> hello
[12:56] <n0odl3> saying something about no pubkey
[12:56] <boxerboy29> gpg for what?
[12:56] <n0odl3> it says the public key is not available
[12:57] <n0odl3> then it told me to try apt-get and when i do it tells met he same thing
[12:57] <nalioth> n0odl3: disregard. it wont affect your software installation (except that you are using nonofficial repos)
[12:57] <n0odl3> ok
[12:57] <n0odl3> so i go on to the next step?
[12:57] <boxerboy29> this is the fun part of upgrade lmao
[12:57] <dave321> ubotu: list repositories repository
[12:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dave321
[12:58] <slew> ok, well ive done all i think i can with synaptic but the program still says "consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them." :( i cant find the package the program needs to do the ./configure [gtk+-2.0]  in synaptic. i did the libgtk-dev and it installed but i still cant get the program to install. any other hints?
[12:58] <dave321> ubotu: help
[12:58] <Madpilot> !tell dave321 about repos
[12:58] <dave321> thanks
[12:59] <anethema> can anyone help me? x wont start unless i log in as root
[01:00] <dave321> Is there a package for java-vtk?  If there is it's not in the repositories I'm using!
[01:00] <nalioth> dave321: java-vtk?
[01:00] <FR500> anethema, how did you install ubuntu? server install?
[01:00] <n0odl3> sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is this one whole command or is it seperate?
[01:00] <nalioth> n0odl3: that will work
[01:01] <anethema> installed a long time ago
[01:01] <anethema> desktop install
[01:01] <anethema> i just found out
[01:01] <anethema> will start for any user but my main one
[01:01] <anethema> so it must be a session thing
[01:01] <anethema> or gnome
[01:01] <anethema> or somehting
[01:01] <anethema> i dont know how to find out
[01:01] <anethema> or fix it
[01:01] <n0odl3> ok when i type this i got this message:Package totem-xine is not available, but is reffered to by another package
[01:02] <nalioth> n0odl3: install totem-gstreamer
[01:02] <hablandocontigo> I have to ISA ethernet cards on my 233 mhz IBM Aptiva that Knoppix 3.4, Xandros 3.0RCx, and Ubuntu live 5.10(probably older version) didn't detect, what can I try?
[01:02] <n0odl3> ok
[01:02] <hablandocontigo> two*
[01:02] <anethema> some ICEauthority or something
[01:02] <n0odl3> where would i do that?
[01:02] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: back now. did you post your menu.lst in that pastebin?
[01:02] <nalioth> anethema: oh! thats easy and a known bug
[01:03] <nalioth> anethema: just rm the ~/.ICEauthority
[01:03] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, welcome back.
[01:03] <Hikaru79> Yes, I did.
[01:03] <anethema> niice
[01:03] <rawiramdhan> how do I restart ssh server
[01:03] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, it's at: http://pastebin.com/388539
[01:03] <anethema> ill try it thanks a bunch nalioth
[01:03] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, you will probably have to look into using "isapnp" to get the cards initialized
[01:03] <Hikaru79> rawiramdhan, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:03] <nalioth> anethema: it happens when nautilus gets root privs
[01:03] <n0odl3> here would i get totem gstreamer
[01:04] <dave321> nalioth: Which repository is it part of?
[01:04] <n0odl3> *where
[01:04] <anethema> i never ever gave nautilus root privs
[01:04] <GTroy> can anyone tell me where I can find my universe mirrors?
[01:04] <anethema> but ill try it now thanks a bunch
[01:04] <nalioth> dave321: which what is part of?
[01:04] <dave321> nalioth: java-vtk
[01:04] <anethema> worked! thanks a whooooooooole bunch nalioth :D
[01:04] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: thanks for the tip
[01:04] <anethema> now i know
[01:04] <anethema> ehhe
[01:04] <gfxstyler> nalioth: do you mean when i start nautilus as root i get the same error?
[01:05] <nalioth> dave321: i have no idea what java-vtk is
[01:05] <n0odl3> i tried typing totem gstreamer and it tells me i have no directory
[01:05] <n0odl3> or the no such file
[01:05] <nalioth> gfxstyler: if nautilus is feeling naughty, you might
[01:05] <boxerboy29> GTroy: in the updater click preferences and than settings than check the 3 empty boxes than close now click all the empty boxes in the sources list
[01:05] <nalioth> n0odl3: totem-gstreamer
[01:05] <gfxstyler> nalioth: damn o.O" i just started it as root for 3 times
[01:05] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: mine doesn't use rootnoverify. instead it has a "root (hd1,0)", and on the next line, "savedefault"
[01:05] <n0odl3> now its telling me too few arguments
[01:05] <dave321> nalioth: VTK (visualization tool kit) with java bindings, thanks though
[01:05] <GTroy> thank you boxerboy29
[01:06] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, this exact line worked before upgrading to hoary (back on warty)
[01:06] <boxerboy29> gtroy your welcome good luck
[01:06] <rawiramdhan> where can I find my ssh config?
[01:06] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, been a long time since I've had ISA hardware, but the way it worked is a) you use isapnp to scan the cards in your system and create an isapnp.conf file b) you edit the file to your needs c) you make sure isapnp runs at system boot and possibly d) you tell the modules (drivers) for your ISA hardware the addresses/irqs where the cards are.
[01:06] <gfxstyler> rawiramdhan: somewhere in /etc :D
[01:06] <HrdwrBob> e) you throw it away and get a computer made in the last 5 years
[01:06] <jintxo> right
[01:06] <gfxstyler> lol
[01:07] <rawiramdhan> thanx:) i whas looking in init.d :$
[01:07] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: you're probably using a newer version of grub now. it also probably behaves slightly differently. the settings I have are from hoary install
[01:07] <n0odl3> what am i suppose to do if it says too few arguments?
[01:07] <spiderworm> hi all, im trying to get encrypted dvd playback to work, i have libdvdcss installed and everything but its saying it can't read the encryption... is there something im missing?
[01:07] <Hikaru79> I see, hyphenated. Can you PM me your exact entry?
[01:07] <nalioth> spiderworm: libdvdcss2?
[01:08] <gfxstyler> rawiramdhan: /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[01:08] <spiderworm> nalioth: indeed
[01:08] <anethema> nalioth, thanks again :D
[01:08] <n0odl3> help
[01:08] <slak> HI
[01:08] <lampshade> Hey what's the ndiswrapper like on Ubuntu?  Can I just aptget it down and use it?  (I have a laptop that just plopped into my hands with no pcmcia slot and a usb wireless Dlink adapter.)
[01:08] <gfxstyler> HI
[01:09] <slak> I NEED A HAND I GOT MY DICK STUCK IN MY FLOPPY DRIVE AND YES ITS THAT SMALL
[01:09] <nalioth> anethema: ~/.ICEauthority is rewritten with each session, so it doeant hurt to rm it
[01:09] <lampshade> so I guess what I'm asking is how easy would it be for me to get wireless setup quickly
[01:09] <nalioth> slak: dont do that
[01:09] <seethru> slak: your fault, re-roll life
[01:09] <slak> ANYWAYS ITS SAYING I NEED FLOPPY.SO.400 IN ORDER TO REMOVE IT
[01:09] <lampshade> slak:  PRESS EJECT
[01:09] <kevogod> slak, Well, first off, you will need some sort of lubrication.
[01:09] <n0odl3> wait
[01:09] <n0odl3> help
[01:09] <slak> I NEED A NEW DRIVER
[01:09] <seethru> nalioth: quick, grab the ban hammer
[01:09] <kevogod> slak, Use lubrication and then be brave.
[01:09] <lampshade> oh god hahhaha
[01:09] <n0odl3> what do i do if it says i have too few arguements
[01:10] <nalioth> slak: stop with the caps please and try to get on topic
[01:10] <WhyvasLT> ftp server with a gui?
[01:10] <n0odl3> ?
[01:10] <HrdwrBob> WhyvasLT: no
[01:10] <nxv_> my external usb soundcard resists to play. everything seems to be setup fine. alsa mixer shows me the controls they are unmuted etc. but write on it is blocked. when i do cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp1 it just blocks writing. no error. no playing. just like a blocked writebuffer
[01:10] <n0odl3> where do i obtain totem-gstreamer?
[01:10] <slak> ok ill stay on topic
[01:10] <gfxstyler> lampshade: ndiswrapper is working fine here
[01:10] <n0odl3> it keeps on telling me i have too few arguements...
[01:11] <slak> SO OK I WAS FUCKING NALIOTHS MOM UP THE ASS LASTNIGHT AND SHE WAS ALL LIKE
[01:11] <slak> OOO OOO
[01:11] <nalioth> n0odl3: try them one at a time
[01:11] <seethru> slicslak: holy shit gtfo
[01:11] <lampshade> gfxstyler:  Was it easy to do?  My time is short that's why I gotta have it be easy and nice
[01:11] <gfxstyler> n0odl3: then why dont you start it with more arguments?
[01:11] <n0odl3> nalioth what do you mean?
[01:11] <nalioth> n0odl3: try installing your pkgs one a time or use synaptic (synaptic is easy to use)
[01:12] <hyphenated> nalioth: thanks for keeping the peace
[01:12] <n0odl3> so you mean type install totem
[01:12] <nalioth> my mom passed away in April, so i hope slak had fun
[01:12] <n0odl3> then type install gstreamer?
[01:12] <nalioth> n0odl3: use synaptic
[01:12] <gfxstyler> lampshade: yes i think it was easy (i downloaded ndiswrapper 1.2, unpacked it, typed "make && make install (as root)" then "modprobe ndiswrapper;echo "ndiswrapper" >> /etc/modules", done
[01:12] <n0odl3> ok
[01:12] <fangorious> what's the command to launch the printer admin tool?
[01:12] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: my guess it that I wouldn't have to set up ISA parameters for the newest distros which would do that automagically, what do you think?
[01:13] <gfxstyler> lampshade: dont know about the one thats in the ubuntu repositories, though (my wlan card needs ndiswrapper 1.2)
[01:13] <n0odl3> naolith i have a lot of streamer files
[01:13] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, i don't know if ubuntu uses the isapnp stuff or not. i'm talking from experience from 2000 or so, so myu info may not be up to date, heh :-p
[01:13] <lampshade> gfxstyler:  Thanks!
[01:13] <n0odl3> do install all of them including the ones that are blocked out
[01:13] <nalioth> n0odl3: do you have all of your repos enabled?
[01:14] <nxv_> dmesg complains: [4299401.439000]  cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, err = -28
[01:14] <butcherbird> I apt-get removed apache, decided to reinstall it today (Hoary) and its not creating all the conf files, modules.conf is missing.. can someone pastebin it? or explain why its doing that?
[01:14] <n0odl3> how do i check that?
[01:14] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: I could use the freshest knoppix version eitherway success of failure, thanks
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about sources
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about repos
[01:14] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, I do see there exists a package called isapnptools, if you want to play with the stuff
[01:15] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about wizdom
[01:15] <slew> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr i was able to compile the same program with mandriva with no problems, ubuntu hates slew. ;(
[01:15] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: thanks
[01:15] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell gfxstyler about something
[01:15] <gfxstyler> damn it doesnt work :D
[01:15] <nalioth> slew: join #kubuntu-offtopic please and i'll help you
[01:16] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell gfxstyler about everything
[01:16] <slew> cant, i gotta make dinner, thanks though. maybe it will work after a reboot. ;) thanks for your paitence though.
[01:16] <slew> have a good one..
[01:16] <drrakn> is there an equivalent to the Linux Trace Toolkit that ships with Breezy?
[01:17] <fangorious> what's the printer admin tool?
[01:17] <aclonedsheep> Hi, should I be concerned if my laptop is frozen on an empty blue screen right after I selected "repartition the hd and partition 1..."
[01:17] <hsqrd> is there anyone here that might be able to help me with some sound issues i've been experiencing after installing ubuntu?
[01:17] <drrakn> I'm trying to troubleshoot harddrive spindown issues
[01:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hsqrd about sound
[01:18] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell gfxstyler about you
[01:18] <Madpilot> fangorious: System menu - Administration - Printing
[01:18] <tyler_durden> does this work for anyone? apt-get install rar
[01:18] <tyler_durden> its on the ubuntuguide website but it doesnt work
[01:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: use unrar-nonfree
[01:18] <Blejdfist> tyler_durden: install unrar-nonfree
[01:18] <hajiki> ubotu, ati!
[01:18] <tyler_durden> its not free?
[01:18] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[01:18] <Blejdfist> tyler_durden: the nonfree-version can handle RAR3-archives
[01:18] <fangorious> Madpilot, can you check what command that calls? (i don't have local access at the moment, just ssh)
[01:18] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody -- i have a few questions for those of you out there into digital content creation..  specifically quetions about using scanners in ubuntu
[01:18] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: you need the Multiverse repo enabled to get rar itself
[01:19] <drrakn> tyler_durden: gratis, but not libre
[01:19] <aclonedsheep> anyone?
[01:19] <Blejdfist> tyler_durden: yes it's free.. but the nonfree isn't opensource
[01:19] <tyler_durden> i just need to unrar a .rar file
[01:19] <tyler_durden> oh ok
[01:19] <gfxstyler> nalioth: thanks, i got it :)
[01:19] <delire> tyler_durden: it comes with conditions..
[01:19] <synackuator> if you modprobe something, will it automatically load when you reboot?
[01:19] <Madpilot> fangorious: I'm not sure, I think it's gnome-printer-admin or something like that
[01:19] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: kill your laptop
[01:19] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: get a livecd
[01:19] <aclonedsheep> and see if it works?
[01:19] <delire> tyler_durden: that disallow open use of the software..
[01:19] <tyler_durden> and where did xterminal go?! i remember having it before
[01:19] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: no, use the livecd to partition
[01:19] <drrakn> synackuator: no
[01:19] <aclonedsheep> oh
[01:20] <freddy> hello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks
[01:20] <aclonedsheep> why woudlnt the bootable work
[01:20] <nalioth> tyler_durden: hit alt-f2 and type gnome-terminal
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> i know that in windows you havce to have the drivers for the given device (in this instrance, a cannon 650U) and tawin driver support enabled....  how does one go about scanning full page color documents and then acquiring them thru Gimp??
[01:20] <tyler_durden> i wanted xterminal, isnt that a gui terminal?
[01:20] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: with the live, you shouldnt have any freezes
[01:20] <tyler_durden> i had it before
[01:20] <aclonedsheep> cool
[01:20] <nalioth> tyler_durden: then type xterm instead
[01:20] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: with SANE
[01:20] <freddy> hello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks
[01:20] <synackuator> drrakn: how do you get them to load automatically?  some config file?
[01:20] <tyler_durden> oh yeah that was it
[01:20] <aclonedsheep> ill dl the dvd image nad burn that
[01:20] <gfxstyler> synackuator: /etc/modules
[01:20] <drrakn> synackuator: /etc/modules
[01:20] <tyler_durden> ok ty. and it wont find apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[01:21] <freddy> hello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks
[01:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: someone told you to enable your repos
[01:21] <aclonedsheep> thanks a lot
[01:21] <tyler_durden> how do i do that?
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> furthermore -- would someone please help me out with zip files...  whats the terminal command i would use to decompress a bunch of zip files all in the same directory and then move everything BUT the zips into a seperate folder??
[01:21] <drrakn> tyler_durden: add multiverse to your repros from the menu in synaptic
[01:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about repos
[01:21] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: that's also in Multiverse - do you have that repo enabled?
[01:21] <gfxstyler> tyler_durden: maybe you need to add "universe multiverse" to your repositories
[01:21] <tyler_durden> lol im so confused
[01:21] <tyler_durden> i dont even know what you guys are talking about
[01:21] <Zedman> freddy: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:22] <tyler_durden> mutliverse?
[01:22] <nalioth> tyler_durden: read the msg ubotu sent you
[01:22] <aclonedsheep> the link the for install/live dvd on the website is dead
[01:22] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: unzip --help (check out the -d option)
[01:22] <tyler_durden> i will
[01:22] <tyler_durden> thanks
[01:22] <n0odl3> nalioth i did what the instructions said for repos
[01:22] <n0odl3> do i install all of them including the green boxes?
[01:22] <nalioth> n0odl3: now in synaptic, hit 'reload' at the top left
[01:23] <freddy> Zedman, do you know wich locales should i pick?
[01:23] <durt> gdkxft has no effect. What am i missing?
[01:23] <freddy> shiet
[01:23] <nalioth> n0odl3: no, just find the ones you posted in here earlier and check the boxes
[01:23] <freddy> he is gone
[01:23] <freddy> does anyone know wich locales should i pick in the dpkg-reconfig locales thingy?
[01:23] <nalioth> freddy: which locale do you want?
[01:23] <egon_spengler> freddy Where do you live?
[01:24] <freddy> venezuela
[01:24] <butcherbird> well that was stupid all I needed to do was dpkg --purge..
[01:24] <freddy> i dont know what a locale is
[01:24] <freddy> lol
[01:24] <delire> freddy: most simply, it's region based language support.
[01:24] <egon_spengler> freddy, Is your ubuntu in Spanish or English
[01:25] <freddy> right now..english
[01:25] <freddy> but i want to change it to spanish...my mom hates her laptop in english
[01:25] <StarKruzr> Hi, guys.  I just tried to install alien via synaptic and it's asking me for my ubuntu CD (I don't have one) to install html2text, which is a dependency of alien.  What gives?
[01:25] <egon_spengler> freddy If you wish spanish try one of the es locales then
[01:25] <freddy> so i have to change it
[01:25] <nalioth> freddy: look for es i believe
[01:25] <delire> freddy: try EU_es
[01:26] <gfxstyler> StarKruzr: use the internet ubuntu repositories
[01:26] <delire> freddy: though you're not in the EU so there may be a VE_es or similar
[01:26] <durt> StarKruzr: you might try commenting out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <StarKruzr> I have them set already, gfx.
[01:26] <boxerboy29> is dapper out for beta yet?
[01:26] <StarKruzr> durt: Thanks
[01:26] <nalioth> StarKruzr: edit your sources.list and comment out the cdrom line
[01:26] <freddy> i found es_VE that looks familiar
[01:26] <bimberi> StarKruzr: edit sources.list, comment out the "deb cdrom" line, update repositories, retry
[01:26] <nalioth> boxerboy29: let the devs finish breezy
[01:26] <delire> freddy: sorry, yeah that's it.
[01:27] <freddy> problem is, im afraid that all the configurations i already made might get lost
[01:27] <Jerich> i just have a small question, I did a custom install of Ubuntu, i did X -configure, but now, only my xfce4 is in 8bits
[01:27] <boxerboy29> yeah i know i have a stand alone im not sure what to put on it and dapper would have been nice to see what theyve donejust courios too
[01:28] <synackuator> does anyone know of a good wlan-ng howto, i can't get my wlan0 to even show up in breezy
[01:28] <Morti> Okay. Installing Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop, it crashes when it loads hotplug but hotplug works fine on the livecd. How do I fix this?
[01:28] <gfxstyler> boxerboy29: is dapper the ubuntu version after breezy?
[01:28] <boxerboy29> yes
[01:28] <nalioth> gfxstyler: dapper drake, yes
[01:28] <Morti> To clarify, it freezes the whole machine when it tries to load hotplug on the Ubuntu I've installed.
[01:28] <LittleDan> how can I read stuff from a thumbdrive?
[01:28] <StarKruzr> (p.s. "reload package information" in synaptic is same as "apt-get update," yes?
[01:28] <StarKruzr> )
[01:28] <GTroy> how would I ping mirrors installed from terminal?
[01:28] <gfxstyler> thanks
[01:28] <nalioth> StarKruzr: yes
[01:28] <shadeofgrey> okay i still need help wiuth unzipping
[01:29] <GTroy> oooh sorry installed from updater
[01:29] <drrakn> synackuator: have you tried a debian-version of the wlan-ng howto?
[01:29] <GTroy> ping in terminal
[01:29] <shadeofgrey> apparently wildcards like *.* are not valid in linux?
[01:29] <boxerboy29> ok bbl gonna throw breez7 on there for the g/f to learn
[01:29] <n0odl3> nalioth when i clicked apply
[01:29] <drrakn> synackuator: that worked for me a few years back when I was using it
[01:29] <freddy> shadeofgrey, they are
[01:29] <spiderworm> can anyone help?  im running kde and have the libdvdcss2 libraries installed, but whenever i try to play something in mplayer or xine, it says it cant read it... i know it at least detects it because in xine it gives the name of the dvd im trying to play, but it wont play it...
[01:29] <drrakn> synackuator: and I imagine that it might still work on ubuntu
[01:29] <n0odl3> its asking me to insert Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)
[01:29] <n0odl3> in drive /cdrom/
[01:29] <shadeofgrey> i need to know how to use unzip to decompress all the zipfiles in a giuven directory and move the contents of each iunto a directory called 'extracted'
[01:29] <anethema> !faq
[01:29] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:30] <n0odl3> do i put in the ubuntu install cd?
[01:30] <butcherbird> Ok on the default hoary apache package what dir do I need to put my cgi and pl scripts in? Looking at config file I /cgi-bin/ is aliased to /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ but that dont work
[01:30] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: did you see my earlier comment? you want the -d <extracted> flag
[01:30] <gfxstyler> shadeofgrey: man unzip
[01:30] <nalioth> n0odl3: do you have the cd?
[01:30] <bimberi> GTroy: do you mean repository mirrors? - ping au.archive.ubuntu.com (or whatever is in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:30] <tyler_durden> nalioth i did that, now it says there is no installation candidate
[01:30] <n0odl3> yes i have the install cd
[01:30] <n0odl3> do i put that in?
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> i tried the following:  unzip *.zip -d /home/shadeofgrey/downloads/Fonts/extracted
[01:31] <nalioth> tyler_durden: use synaptic and search for "unrar"  choose the unrar-nonfree version
[01:31] <nalioth> n0odl3: it asked for it
[01:31] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: try it with one zip file at a time
[01:31] <Morti> Anyone have any potential answers to my problem of hotplug crashing the system on my Toshiba laptop?
[01:31] <n0odl3> ok
[01:31] <tyler_durden> oh good idea i keep forgetting that synpatic is easier
[01:31] <nalioth> Morti: not atm, it seems
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> that'd take friggin forever!
[01:31] <nalioth> tyler_durden: so is identifying to services
[01:31] <GTroy> thanks bimberi!
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> i have 450 font file zips to extract
[01:32] <bimberi> GTroy: yw :)
[01:32] <tyler_durden> btw, lets say nvidia just released a new driver, how long will it take before synpatic/apt-get has it?
[01:32] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: you might be able to do: for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" -d /extractedpath; done
[01:32] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: wildcards are your friends
[01:32] <synackuator> drrakn, I tried a hoary one and it didn't work - the prism2_cs module doesn't do anything
[01:32] <synackuator> drrakn, pcmcia is good in lsmod though
[01:32] <StarKruzr> are any of you familiar with the game Ur-Quan Masters (formerly Star Control 2)?
[01:32] <drrakn> synackuator: is prism2_cs the wlan-ng module?
[01:33] <GameGod> StarKruzr: I played it a few years back, but don't remember a lot about it
[01:33] <drrakn> synackuator: actually, I remember that being buggered
[01:33] <n0odl3> hey naolith
[01:33] <synackuator> drrakn, i guess so - i don't know what else is
[01:33] <StarKruzr> GameGod: trying to install it, says it needs package "uqm-content," which as far as I can tell doesn't exist
[01:33] <n0odl3> thanks you are a frikkin genius
[01:33] <drrakn> synackuator: make sure your pcmcia net.config hint points at the right driver
[01:33] <drrakn> synackuator: I think "first one wins"
[01:33] <n0odl3> uhh just for my reference if i ever have to install java
[01:33] <Stricklin> I don't suppose there's an easy way to convert a Thunderbird prefs.js file on Windows to one on Linux, is there?
[01:34] <drrakn> synackuator: I really hated wlan-ng ;)
[01:34] <tyler_durden> ? no one knows? nalioth?
[01:34] <spiderworm> xine even says: using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for dvd access...
[01:34] <n0odl3> all i have to do is get the deb package then
[01:34] <omp> when is breezy going to be released?
[01:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about javadeb
[01:34] <spiderworm> but still won't play the dvd....
[01:34] <synackuator> drrakn, what would be the alternative for prism2 cards?
[01:34] <nalioth> tyler_durden: what dont i know?
[01:34] <n0odl3> type in the command: sudo dkpg -i filename
[01:34] <n0odl3> correct?
[01:34] <GameGod> StarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=uqm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[01:34] <tyler_durden> btw, lets say nvidia just released a new driver, how long will it take before synpatic/apt-get has it?
[01:34] <nalioth> omp: see /topic
[01:34] <tyler_durden> ^^ nalioth
[01:34] <GameGod> says the package exists for hoary
[01:34] <omp> nalioth: thanks ;)
[01:34] <nalioth> tyler_durden: backports may pick it up within weeks
[01:34] <drrakn> synackuator: duno, it's been a while since I used something that didn't work with stock drivers. lucky I guess.
[01:34] <tyler_durden> ic
[01:35] <drrakn> synackuator: just my usb adaptors still need wlan-ng and those are in the closet ;)
[01:35] <n0odl3> thats all i have to do right nalioth?
[01:35] <nalioth> n0odl3: correct. on any deb you need
[01:35] <synackuator> drrakn, so where is this pcmcia net.config located??
[01:35] <drrakn> synackuator: found it. look in /etc/pcmcia/config and see if the right driver is being loaded for your card
[01:35] <StarKruzr> GameGod: But not for breezy?
[01:35] <n0odl3> iok
[01:35] <n0odl3> thanx nalioth
[01:35] <n0odl3> im sorry about your mom too
[01:35] <n0odl3> my condolences
[01:36] <n0odl3> im out
[01:36] <drrakn> synackuator: I vagely recall that being a problem at one point
[01:36] <maxmouse> when using fgl_glxgears what is a good fps for a radeon 9800 pro?
[01:36] <Aven> okies...
[01:36] <GameGod> StarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=uqm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all    ... oops, searched for hoary packages... looks like it's there for breezy too
[01:36] <drrakn> synackuator: you might scrape some debugging hints from /var/log/* too
[01:36] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: does that matter?
[01:36] <Aven> hey
[01:37] <Aven> I typed: apt-get install php
[01:37] <Aven> I get: E: Couldn't find package php4
[01:37] <maxmouse> gfxstyler, ya i wanna know if its running at full speed ?
[01:37] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: its no benchmark
[01:37] <drrakn> synackuator: but is has been a long time since I had to troubleshoot cardctrl
[01:37] <shadeofgrey> okay guys... whydowent this work
[01:37] <Aven> how do I exactly install php? :\
[01:37] <maxmouse> ok how can i benchmark in linux ?
[01:37] <nalioth> Aven: use synaptic
[01:37] <StarKruzr> GameGod: sudo apt-get install uqm says "not available, referred to by another package"
[01:37] <StarKruzr> what source are you looking at?
[01:37] <Aven> nalioth: what's that? and how?
[01:37] <drrakn> maxmouse: benchmark what?
[01:37] <Aven> :P
[01:37] <maxmouse> video
[01:37] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: ati cards never run on full speed with the damned fglrx driver :)
[01:37] <Madpilot> Aven: search Synaptic, and I think PHP is in the Universe repo
[01:37] <GameGod> hmm
[01:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aven about synaptic
[01:37] <maxmouse> gfxstyler, what driver should i use then?
[01:37] <GameGod> StarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: you have to use it
[01:38] <GameGod> Says it's in multiverse
[01:38] <StarKruzr> o_O
[01:38] <StarKruzr> "multiverse?"
[01:38] <tyler_durden> hey how come my gaim wont appear on the taskbar anymore? i just got rid of the seperator and it wont appear there
[01:38] <GameGod> one sec
[01:38] <tyler_durden> even though the taskbar icon is checked
[01:38] <drrakn> tyler_durden: you probably dragged the "notification area" off your taskbar
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell StarKruzr about sources
[01:38] <tyler_durden> oh probably
[01:38] <tyler_durden> i thought it was just a seperator
[01:39] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: if you got rid of the 'seperator' near the clock, that's your notification area
[01:39] <StarKruzr> ubotu doesn't appear to want to talk to me.
[01:39] <StarKruzr> I asked it about something before and it ignored me
[01:39] <drrakn> nope, that's just how you can drag it around
[01:39] <nalioth> ubotu appears to be suffering from bsod
[01:39] <tyler_durden> yes you're right
[01:39] <gfxstyler> ubotu is pissed off :D hehe
[01:39] <tyler_durden> i added it. thanks
[01:39] <GameGod> one sec star
[01:39] <drrakn> might be wise to file an enhancement to prevent people from doing that easily :P
[01:39] <shadeofgrey> unzip *.zip -d /home/shadeofgrey/download/Fonts/extracted gives the error:  "filename not matched"
[01:39] <StarKruzr> GameGod: thank you
[01:39] <spiderworm> no ubuntu dvd buffs in here then?
[01:39] <GameGod> Anyone: Is multiverse a default repository in Ubuntu?
[01:39] <gfxstyler> i would be too ... the same answers over and over again ... lol *g*
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> shadeofgrey,  you wanting to unzip several zips?
[01:39] <Madpilot> GameGod: no, it's not
[01:39] <GameGod> ok
[01:40] <GameGod> StarKruzr, one sec
[01:40] <Madpilot> !tell StarKruzr about repos
[01:40] <GameGod> That's the problem probably
[01:40] <shadeofgrey> Dr_Will:  yessir...   a few hundred
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> shadeofgrey,  try unzip '*.zip'
[01:40] <GameGod> ya
[01:40] <nalioth> StarKruzr: open using sudo /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with 'universe' in them. space once after 'universe' and add 'multiverse' to both lines
[01:40] <StarKruzr> it's not working, Madpilot
[01:40] <GameGod> crap brb
[01:40] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: shadeofgrey you probably need to escape the *
[01:40] <StarKruzr> nalioth: so for every line with universe, put universe multiverse?
[01:40] <gfxstyler> shadowofgrey: how about "man unzip" or "unzip --help" ?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> the shell is expanding the * to be a list of all file names.. you want unzip to get the * i think
[01:40] <Madpilot> StarKruzr: just realized that... one sec, I'll hunt down the URL manually
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> i had this issue ages ago.
[01:40] <Aven> so.. what exactly is Synaptic?
[01:40] <tyler_durden> heh sorry again, one more, how do i download gdesklets?
[01:40] <tyler_durden> their website is down
[01:40] <Aven> I downloaded it but it doesn't install...
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: well, it comes with several :)
[01:41] <nalioth> Aven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:41] <TiMiDo> hey people
[01:41] <gfxstyler> Aven: synaptic is a package management app ... like a database
[01:41] <tyler_durden> drrakn what do you eman?
[01:41] <Aven> gfxstyler: o
[01:41] <Madpilot> StarKruzr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:41] <gfxstyler> Aven: or a touchpad driver for notebooks lol
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: there is a package full of a "standard" set of desklets
[01:41] <tyler_durden> through synpatic?
[01:41] <ubotu> No idea, StarKruzr
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: probably "gdesklets-data"
[01:41] <ubotu> nalioth: I give up, what is it?
[01:41] <ubotu> gfxstyler: What?
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: yeah
[01:41] <tyler_durden> ok thanks
[01:42] <drrakn> tyler_durden: np
[01:42] <GameGod> StarKruzr: just follow those instruction Madpilot gave you and you should be set...
[01:42] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: search Syn for gdesklets, they are in the Ubuntu repos
[01:42] <StarKruzr> ok
[01:42] <gfxstyler> ubotu: whats up? i didnt say anything, did i?
[01:42] <ubotu> gfxstyler: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:42] <Madpilot> OK, ubotu's back up
[01:42] <tyler_durden> because ubuntu guide says apt-get install gdesklets but it wont work
[01:42] <StarKruzr> w00t
[01:42] <bimberi> Aven: note that already installed - System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Administration
[01:42] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell ubotu about hell
[01:42] <bimberi> *that it's
[01:43] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: please don't use ubuntuguide.org, it's not up to date
[01:43] <Aven> Ahh, ok
[01:43] <GameGod> Any idea when ubuntuguide.org will be updated for Breezy?
[01:43] <StarKruzr> dear repos: please pay attention to me.  thanks, Kruzr
[01:43] <GameGod> lol
[01:43] <StarKruzr> (AIIEEE SO SLOW)
[01:43] <nalioth> GameGod: ubuntuguide is not a good source for new linux users
[01:44] <Madpilot> GameGod: ubutnuguide.org is not an official Ubuntu project, so when it's updated is anyone's guess
[01:44] <Aven> ok, how do I use Synaptic to install PHP? :P
[01:44] <GameGod> nalioth: What would you suggest then?
[01:44] <nalioth> Aven: use the search feature
[01:44] <Aven> wikipedia won't load for me :|\
[01:44] <TiMiDo> Aven do sudo apt-cache search php
[01:44] <shadeofgrey> where do i coipy all the .ttf files to so that these fonts are available system wide?
[01:44] <TiMiDo> and then apt-get install package
[01:44] <Madpilot> !tell Aven about lamp
[01:44] <GameGod> I found ubuntuguide.org extremely useful (but I've been using Linux for several years)
[01:44] <nalioth> GameGod: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:44] <bimberi> GameGod: then you're an ideal customer :)
[01:44] <GameGod> hmmm interesting :)
[01:44] <GameGod> Yeah man, I LOVE ubuntu
[01:44] <GameGod> :) :) :)
[01:44] <TiMiDo> who doesn't love ubuntu?
[01:45] <TiMiDo> I'm sure ubuntu loves you two
[01:45] <nalioth> GameGod: experienced users DO find the 'guide a welcome page. new users kill their systems with it
[01:45] <StarKruzr> it's already on the one given to me by school
[01:45] <Madpilot> Aven: the msg the bot sent you has all the information you need for PHP
[01:45] <GameGod> probably true nalioth
[01:45] <moparfan90> hello
[01:45] <TiMiDo> hello moparfan90
[01:45] <tyler_durden> umm gdesklets wont start up, just thinks for around 10-20 seconds and then quits
[01:46] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden did you do the gdesklets configuration?
[01:46] <tyler_durden> i dont believe so
[01:46] <tyler_durden> how do i do that?
[01:46] <TiMiDo> look on .gdesklets
[01:46] <Aven> ubotu is the bot?
[01:46] <ubotu> Aven: What?
[01:46] <TiMiDo> yes Aven
[01:46] <Aven> ah, heh
[01:46] <shadeofgrey> actually ubuntuguide.org is the only reason i didnt abandon linux in frustration and return to windows...
[01:46] <moparfan90> i am using windows x64 and its not to good... i was thinking of using ubuntu again. i wanted to know if theres speed difference in 64-bit and 32-bit ubuntu?
[01:46] <Madpilot> !tell Aven about ubotu
[01:47] <TiMiDo> moparfan90 www.ubuntu.com and do a research,
[01:47] <GameGod> I'd say the same with me shadeofgrey
[01:47] <tyler_durden> timido
[01:47] <tyler_durden> what do you mean look on .gdeskelts
[01:47] <TiMiDo> yes/
[01:47] <shadeofgrey> it was the only place available with answers to all the questions that the ubuntu - elite refused to answer at ungodly hours of the morning
[01:47] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hi everyone
[01:47] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden do cd .gdeskelts
[01:47] <TiMiDo> hi Tuxedo_Kamen
[01:47] <nalioth> tyler_durden: look at gdesklets homepage
[01:47] <tyler_durden> their website is down
[01:47] <tyler_durden> timido it wont find that command
[01:47] <nalioth> tyler_durden: two words: google cache
[01:47] <TiMiDo> cd ?
[01:47] <tyler_durden> i couldnt access it, there was no cache button
[01:48] <GameGod> moparfan90: I'm not sure about speed wise, but unless you're an experienced linux user, the 64-bit version might not be for you (there's some weirdness with some applications/packages with it, or so the forums tell me)
[01:48] <tyler_durden> timido bash: cd: .gdesklets: No such file or directory
[01:48] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden sudo apt-cache search
[01:48] <butcherbird> moparfan90, is there really that much stuff thats going to take advantage of 64-bit?
[01:48] <TiMiDo> !tell tyler_durden about gdesklets
[01:48] <punker> chil
[01:48] <tyler_durden> hold on let me identify
[01:48] <jason_> how do i remove linux on a dule boot
[01:48] <tyler_durden> ok identified
[01:48] <TiMiDo> jason_ cd /boot/
[01:48] <Tuxedo_Kamen> listen, today I come here with a strange request... I need help setting some type of server which I can access from university to download/upload files. Any idea?
[01:49] <TiMiDo> and look at grub configuration jason_
[01:49] <moparfan90> no but i have the cpu so why not get more speed
[01:49] <shadeofgrey> ubuntuguide was the only place i could get reliable information when the most experienced among you refused to offer a helping hand to we fledgling newbies... which i find disgustingly ironic seeing as to the fact that ALL OF US were newbies at one point
[01:49] <LaserJock> do you guys know of any programs for windows that would be compatible with Tomboy?
[01:49] <bimberi> jason_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want
[01:49] <jason_> timido thats in a terminal?
[01:49] <GameGod> butcherbird: Since the 64-bit ubuntu packages were compiled on 64-bit machines, I'd assume EVERYTHING would take advantage of it
[01:49] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open a term and type "man gdesklets"
[01:49] <tyler_durden> timido, ubuto doesnt know what that is
[01:49] <steigweis> hello, i have problems to burn dvd in 8x speed. gnomebaker says, it is 8x, but its only 4x speed... i burn dvd-r 8x discs. any suggestions?
[01:49] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:49] <TiMiDo> ubotu, gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness HomePage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:49] <ubotu> TiMiDo: what are you talking about?
[01:49] <laserite> hi! i want to statically map all IPs in a /16 subnet to the same MAC, do u know how?? thnx!
[01:50] <GameGod> !tell gnome
[01:50] <shadeofgrey> p.s. -- is the ubuntu nvidia driver currently available capable of handling the 7800 ultra?
[01:50] <tyler_durden> You must NOT run gDesklets as super user (root).
[01:50] <tyler_durden>  omg
[01:50] <nalioth> GameGod: it's !tell NICK about FACTOID
[01:50] <seethru> shadeofgrey: yes
[01:50] <nalioth> tyler_durden: run the man page
[01:50] <delire> laserite: that's ambitious
[01:50] <tyler_durden> how can i fool it into thinking im not root?
[01:50] <GameGod> Just got that one, thanks though
[01:50] <tyler_durden> i did nalioth
[01:50] <tyler_durden> thats how i found out that command
[01:50] <GameGod> !gnome
[01:50] <ubotu> it has been said that gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[01:50] <UrbanFox> tyler_durden> don't run as root.
[01:50] <tyler_durden> gdesklets lets me do something but it says that
[01:50] <GameGod> cool
[01:50] <TiMiDo> ubotu, "gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness HomePage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ "
[01:50] <ubotu> okay, TiMiDo
[01:50] <tyler_durden> i want to run as root
[01:50] <seethru> steigweis: stupid question, but are you using a 8x burner also?
[01:50] <TiMiDo> !gdesklets
[01:51] <ubotu> TiMiDo: What?
[01:51] <shadeofgrey> excellent!  i just ordered a 7800 ultra and two more gigs of ram...
[01:51] <UrbanFox> tyler_durden> running as root is a bad idea
[01:51] <StarKruzr> guys, when synaptic installs something, why does it sometimes create an icon for it in my menu but sometimes not?
[01:51] <tyler_durden> i heard that before thanks
[01:51] <TiMiDo> !gdesklets
[01:51] <ebby> ok,,I tried to install w32codecs yet synaptic is failing with : can't resolve libhalo and libnautius-burn1 ..any idear ??
[01:51] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me find a server-like thing that a newbie can use so that he can download/upload files from another computer to this one?
[01:51] <UrbanFox> you should only run as root for administrative tasks, not casual desktop use
[01:51] <laserite> delire, yep i know :), i don't want to add each host by hand
[01:51] <TiMiDo> !"gdesklets
[01:51] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, TiMiDo
[01:51] <TiMiDo> bla
[01:51] <UrbanFox> Ubuntu lacks root by default for a reason
[01:51] <steigweis> seethru: of course :) windows /nero works 8x
[01:51] <TiMiDo> i suck with the bot,
[01:51] <tyler_durden> im fine with root. anyway is there a way to fool it?
[01:51] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden sudo -s
[01:51] <UrbanFox> tyler_durden> you are stripping yourself of a great deal of protection
[01:52] <tyler_durden> grr urbanfox thanks, but im ok with root
[01:52] <shadeofgrey> so
[01:52] <StarKruzr> you could also just do sudo tcsh (for example)
[01:52] <Madpilot> UrbanFox: Ubuntu encourages 'sudo' instead of root use
[01:52] <StarKruzr> or sudo bash
[01:52] <UrbanFox> Madpilot> exactly
[01:52] <tyler_durden> timido it still says that i shouldnt run it as root
[01:52] <seethru> tyler_durden: go back to windows then if you want to always run in admin mode..
[01:52] <UrbanFox> that's my point :)
[01:52] <StarKruzr> seethru: that's silly.
[01:52] <Madpilot> TiMiDo: it's not just you, the bot is being odd right now
[01:52] <TiMiDo> hmmm ok, tyler_durden
[01:52] <JDigital> Do vampires have anuses?
[01:52] <TiMiDo> it is maddler
[01:52] <GameGod> oddbotu
[01:52] <shadeofgrey> that brings my system memory to afull 5 gigs at 400 mgz dual channel...
[01:52] <TiMiDo> *is it Madpilot
[01:52] <frank23> StarKruzr: some universe packages don't install links in the menu but that should improve: MOTU is supposed to be adding those links
[01:53] <tyler_durden> it wont let me run as root. what if i login as a normal user, run it and then relogin as root, will i be able to use gdesklets?
[01:53] <StarKruzr> frank: can I add one manually?
[01:53] <yomommas_cooter> nalioth: I AM YOUR MOMMAS COOTER
[01:53] <yomommas_cooter> I AM HUGE
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> MOTU? that a person or a project name?
[01:53] <JDigital> Hm, wrong channel again.
[01:53] <frank23> StarKruzr: yes
[01:53] <krister> this is the ubuntu channel right?
[01:53] <nalioth> JDigital: check for vampire asses in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:53] <GameGod> Dr_Willis: MOTU = Masters of the Universe = people that maintain the universe repository I think
[01:53] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: project name. "Masters of the Universe" - those in charge of the Universe repository
[01:53] <jason_> can someone tell me what  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want means
[01:53] <frank23> Dr_Willis: Masters of the Universe: they take care of universe
[01:53] <GameGod> kik
[01:53] <GameGod> err lol
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> frank23,  tough job. :P
[01:53] <GameGod> :)
[01:54] <GameGod> !pastebin
[01:54] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:54] <dee_> german?
[01:54] <Aven> ok...
[01:54] <tyler_durden> nalioth, can you PLEASE explain why you guys think being root all the time is so bad? i know i wont mess anything up, is there another reason why i shouldnbt be root?
[01:54] <nalioth> !de
[01:54] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[01:54] <Aven> I opened Synaptic, did a search
[01:54] <dee_> thx
[01:54] <Aven> and didn't find PHP
[01:54] <krister> is it only bots here or?...
[01:54] <Madpilot> !tell tyler_durden about root
[01:54] <Aven> how do I add a PHP package?
[01:54] <tyler_durden> grr i know what root is
[01:54] <jason_> can anyone tell me what  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want means
[01:54] <nalioth> tyler_durden: WE dont want your box mass spamming us because it got rooted b/c you want to run as root
[01:55] <tyler_durden> y would i spam?
[01:55] <frank23> tyler_durden: by not running root, you ensure that the PROGRAMS you run don't screw you over
[01:55] <nalioth> jason_: please dont repeat
[01:55] <krister> ME WANT HELP! :P
[01:55] <liable> !gdesklets
[01:55] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:55] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: read that page, it's a good explanation of why to use sudo rather than root
[01:55] <jason_> well no one answered so i figured i would repeat
[01:55] <nalioth> tyler_durden: YOU wouldnt. but if you run as root all the time, your box WILL
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> krister,  it helps if you ask a quetion. :P
[01:55] <nalioth> jason_: if nobody answers, nobody knows atm
[01:55] <tyler_durden> ok madpilot, what is the difference between sudo and root then?
[01:55] <krister> ahh.. :P
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[01:55] <StarKruzr> tyler: running everything as root greatly increases your vulnerability to exploits.
[01:55] <moparfan90> sign this to get flash for 64-bit ubuntu working... please it will help the ubuntu community grow
[01:55] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: sudo is temporary...
[01:55] <tyler_durden> if i use sudo all the time, its just like being root, only it would be annoying typing root every time
[01:55] <nalioth> jason_: please wait at least 5 minutes tween repeats
[01:55] <krister> do u guys know where i can find a mp3 fecoder to ubuntu?
[01:56] <jason_> well someone in here told that so someone has to know
[01:56] <krister> decoder*
[01:56] <frank23> !tell StarKruzr about rootsudo
[01:56] <StarKruzr> tyler: using sudo reduces the "window" during which root is open to attacks.
[01:56] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me find a server-like thing that a newbie can use so that he can download/upload files from another computer to this one? c'mon, ubuntu must have such an application...
[01:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell krister about mp3
[01:56] <StarKruzr> frank: I know :)
[01:56] <delire> tyler_durden: if all processes are running as root it is completely vulnerable to systemwide manipulation from both remote users and local accidents.
[01:56] <n0odl3> does anyone know a good wmv player for linux?
[01:56] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: gftp or a ftp server
[01:56] <frank23> StarKruzr: sorry, wrong name
[01:56] <Madpilot> n0odl3: Totem can play most wmvs, with the right codecs
[01:56] <jason_> i do i repartiion my hard drive so that instead of hainf both linux and windows i only have windows
[01:56] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, is that easy to set up on a router?
[01:56] <mcphail> Tuxedo_Kamen: rsync
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[01:56] <steigweis> hello, i have problems to burn dvd in 8x speed. gnomebaker says, it is 8x, but its only 4x speed... i burn dvd-r 8x discs. any suggestions?
[01:56] <tyler_durden> ok then, ill switch to normal user but only if its possible to transfer all my current settings (background and whatnot) to the normal user
[01:56] <n0odl3> how do i obtain the codecs madpilot?
[01:56] <tyler_durden> is that possible?
[01:57] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you set it up on your box
[01:57] <GTroy> jason_: use partition magig
[01:57] <GameGod> !multiverse
[01:57] <Madpilot> n0odl3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:57] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[01:57] <GTroy> *magic*
[01:57] <nalioth> n0odl3: vlc
[01:57] <n0odl3> vlc?
[01:57] <StarKruzr> partition magic costs monies!
[01:57] <vengeful_> i like vlc
[01:57] <ubuntu_> plop
[01:57] <delire> n0odl3: video lan client
[01:57] <[A] ndy80> is it possible to avoid installing Hotplug Subsystem or not allowing ubuntu to load it at startup? I cannot boot a fresh installed ubuntu system because it freezes during boot at "Loading Hotplug Subsystem".
[01:57] <anethema> hey how do i run the gnome menu editor ?
[01:57] <StarKruzr> there's always gparted :)
[01:57] <nalioth> StarKruzr: use qtparted
[01:57] <StarKruzr> yeah, or that.
[01:57] <nalioth> anethema: right click is your friend
[01:57] <anethema> nm found it
[01:57] <nalioth> anethema: or run "smeg" from terminal
[01:58] <anethema> i wanted the menu editor prog
[01:58] <krister> do u guys know a good !mp3 decoder
[01:58] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, can't I create an ssh file system?
[01:58] <anethema> thanks
[01:58] <tyler_durden> nalioth is it possible to transfer my current root settings (such as background, icons and settings) to a normal user account?
[01:58] <Stricklin> gnomebaker is fussing at me because I have no mp3 plug-in. Help?
[01:58] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: yes, installing openssh-server is the secure thing to do
[01:58] <Zhukov_> hi there
[01:58] <Madpilot> Stricklin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:58] <n0odl3> ok me try vlc
[01:58] <delire> n0odl3: apt-get install vlc
[01:58] <Zhukov_> Seveas, are you there?
[01:58] <nuopus> hey does anyone know if its possible to make metacity expand windows so they only go to certain coordinates?
[01:58] <nalioth> tyler_durden: yes, you were told how yestern or the day b4
[01:58] <n0odl3> delire do i sudo that?
[01:58] <Mez> tyler_durden, sudo cp ~root/* ~
[01:58] <tyler_durden> it did not work nalioth
[01:58] <Mez> sorry
[01:59] <nuopus> like ... I dont want it to expand all the way .... leave several pixels from bottom and side
[01:59] <tyler_durden> remember? i treid copying it, and i still had default settings on root
[01:59] <Stricklin> mp3 is a restricted format?!
[01:59] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, and is that easy to do? I am a huge newbie to ubuntu, as you saw yesterday!
[01:59] <Mez> sudo cp -R ~root/* ~
[01:59] <tyler_durden> oh i didnt paste it though
[01:59] <nalioth> tyler_durden: then idk what to tell ya
[01:59] <tyler_durden> how do i paste it after?
[01:59] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: very easy
[01:59] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, ok, so please tell me where can I find a tutorial or something...
[01:59] <tyler_durden> /root/dbootstrap_settings
[01:59] <delire> n0odl3: yeah
[01:59] <tyler_durden> is this the file with all my settings?
[01:59] <krister> ehm... do i have to pay for the mp3 plug in??
[01:59] <nalioth> Mez: i saw you sneak in
[01:59] <_jason> krister:  no
[02:00] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: install "openssh-server" and see uncle google for "sftp howto"
[02:00] <Mez> nalioth: I'm only here thanks to the magic of Laptops and a new mobile fone with GPRS internet
[02:00] <tyler_durden> nalioth?
[02:00] <shadeofgrey> okay guys now i need a little more guidance... where do i put all the .ttf files i downloaded so that they are made available to programs like op4enoffice and NVU and scribus and such?
[02:00] <tyler_durden> /root/dbootstrap_settings does this hold all my settings?
[02:00] <tyler_durden> and why does it say cp: `/root/CD KEYS.txt' and `/root/CD KEYS.txt' are the same file
[02:00] <tyler_durden>  for a lot of my files
[02:00] <delire> shadeofgrey: /usr/share/fonts
[02:01] <Aven> ok
[02:01] <n0odl3> delire its installing what do i do after that?
[02:01] <delire> shadeofgrey: though i have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[02:01] <n0odl3> its done now
[02:01] <delire> n0odl3: choose vlc from the menu or 'vlc /path/to/a/file.wmv'
[02:01] <nalioth> krister: only pay with your time
[02:01] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: create a /.font directory in your home
[02:01] <Aven> how do I exactly install packages in Synaptic?
[02:02] <delire> n0odl3: start with 'vlc &' in the terminal
[02:02] <n0odl3> delire which menu?
[02:02] <n0odl3> oh nvm
[02:02] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:02] <aimaz> hi, when I try to update packages from the app in the notification area it tries to use a proxy that doesn't exist any more, do you know how i can change it to connect directly?
[02:02] <n0odl3> i found it
[02:02] <n0odl3> thank you
[02:02] <nalioth> tyler_durden: all of your settings are invisible
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> delire:  see..  I have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype  directory as well...  think i should put them all there as well?
[02:02] <delire> shadeofgrey: yes, then restart your application.
[02:02] <tyler_durden> so ok, why does it give me that error for all my files in /home? and how do i paste it now? once ive sudo cp ~root/* ~
[02:02] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: just stick them all in /.fonts, and nearly everything will see them
[02:03] <delire> shadeofgrey: Madpilot has a good suggestion, i don't use a ~/.fonts here, but you may as well if you're is present already (non systemwide however).
[02:03] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you want your root settings moved to your user account?
[02:03] <tyler_durden> exactly
[02:03] <tyler_durden> like backgrounds and icons
[02:04] <tyler_durden> and terminal settings.. etc
[02:04] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open a terminal (you should be in your USER home dir)
[02:04] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, I just installed openSSH server, now what I must I do next?
[02:04] <tyler_durden> how do i do that?
[02:04] <tyler_durden> cd to what?
[02:04] <tyler_durden> my user is tylerdurden
[02:04] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: go find another computer and enjoy sftp
[02:04] <nalioth> tyler_durden: dont cd anywhere
[02:04] <butcherbird> whats the deal with the wiki it doesnt even reference gstreamer0.8-mad anymore? should at least list the packages to install for mp3 and such
[02:05] <Madpilot> Tuxedo_Kamen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[02:05] <Tuxedo_Kamen> -_-
[02:05] <nalioth> tyler_durden: type "cp -r /root/.* ./"
[02:05] <tyler_durden> cp: `/root/.' and `./.' are the same file
[02:05] <tyler_durden>  nalioth
[02:05] <nalioth> tyler_durden: do waht i told you
[02:05] <tyler_durden> why does it star ta new line after i psate something? how do i prevent that
[02:05] <tyler_durden> i did
[02:06] <slew> what was the off topic channel name?
[02:06] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: to start sshd daemon '/usr/sbin/sshd' from another computer use ssh name@ipAddress, scp -r files/ name@ipAddress etc
[02:06] <nalioth> slew: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <slew> thx
[02:06] <nalioth> tyler_durden: were there any errors?
[02:06] <Aven> yo
[02:06] <lj> Anyone got sunbird working on ubuntu?
[02:06] <tyler_durden> cp: `/root/.' and `./.' are the same file
[02:06] <Aven> Synaptic doesn't show PHP
[02:06] <tyler_durden> that is the error nalioth
[02:06] <Aven> even after a search....
[02:06] <nalioth> tyler_durden: that is NOT what i wrote
[02:06] <tyler_durden> this is what i type
[02:06] <tyler_durden> cp -r /root/.* ./
[02:06] <Madpilot> Aven: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[02:06] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: make that 'scp -r files/ name@ipAddress:/some/path/' ;)
[02:07] <Aven> o
[02:07] <Aven> how do i check ?
[02:07] <Madpilot> Aven: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:07] <rubem> Hi there
[02:07] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yikes! :|
[02:07] <nalioth> tyler_durden: log out and back in
[02:07] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone please help me doing it, in private?
[02:07] <rubem> I can't find SMEG! In which repo is it?
[02:07] <tyler_durden> ok
[02:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rubem about smeg
[02:08] <nalioth> rubem: use the installsmeg script at the homepage
[02:08] <hajiki> is there a way to enable w32codes on breezy?
[02:08] <_jason> !tell hajiki about restricted
[02:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hajiki about w32codecs
[02:08] <ebby> ok,,I tried to install w32codecs yet synaptic is failing with : can't resolve libhalo and libnautius-burn1 ..any idear ?? ( I followed wiki guide by altering sources.list)
[02:08] <delire> hajiki see restricted formats
[02:08] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :S
[02:08] <rubem> nalioth: the F**** backports do not have smeg
[02:08] <nuopus> just download the codecs and unpack them to /usr/lib/win32
[02:08] <nalioth> _jason: let's be spedific
[02:08] <nalioth> rubem: GET IT FROM THE HOMEPAGE
[02:09] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me in private, setting up an ssh server?
[02:09] <_jason> nalioth:  will do
[02:09] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you installed openssh-server, it IS set up
[02:09] <tyler_durden> nalioth ok now what
[02:09] <rubem> nalioth Ok... sorry... but what happened with the backports?
[02:09] <slew> ive got a program that refuses to install, which is confusing to me since it installed under mandriva. it keeps giving me a bunch of diffrent error messages, none of which i can decipher. mostly when it gets to network.c
[02:09] <cafuego_> nalioth: Having a nice, relaxed sunday? ;-)
[02:09] <nalioth> cafuego_: did you get my msg?
[02:09] <cafuego_> slew: What program?
[02:10] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you should have your stuff
[02:10] <cafuego_> nalioth: not in the past 24 hours.
[02:10] <hajiki> i said breezy
[02:10] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: once installed, check it's running with 'ps ax | grep sshd'. note the IP Address of this host. then on a client 'ssh name@ipAddress'
[02:10] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but I have no idea on how to connect to this computer, and so on
[02:10] <tyler_durden> oh you meant log in as user?
[02:10] <nalioth> cafuego_: check your cafuego account
[02:10] <tyler_durden> ok let me check
[02:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> verizon wireless has "broadband" (evdo) wireless internet plans for like 60 bucks, but they say that if you use your pda as a connection to a home pc, they charge you 80 bucks per month.  anyone think there's a way to prevent their being able to tell when you do that?
[02:10] <cafuego_> agghrrhrhfhf
[02:10] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, can I PM you?
[02:10] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: open a terminal and type ifconfig
[02:10] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: they tell by the amount of data used
[02:10] <cafuego_> nalioth: Ok, gimme  a min
[02:10] <rubem> what have happened with the backports?
[02:10] <nalioth> cafuego_: n/m
[02:10] <slew> cafuego, gtermix, a program to connect to old school telnet bbses
[02:10] <butcherbird> Tuxedo_Kamen, only other thing you might want to do is edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and change root login to no.  Maybe chage the default port ssh is using as well
[02:11] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: no, i'm leaving soon. just do as i say above and alls well. to find out the IP Address of the computer the SSH Server is setup on 'ifconfig'
[02:11] <cafuego_> Go away, ubotu.
[02:11] <nalioth> rubem: mirromax is gone. and to have backports, you need to have an unstable distro. let breezy release and you'll have new backports soon after
[02:11] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum... but on ifconfig I can't seem to find any mention of my ip
[02:12] <_jason> Tuxedo_Kamen:  it is called "inet addr"
[02:12] <freddy> 4 days to Breezy?
[02:12] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: look at eth0 next to 'inet'
[02:12] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 192.168... or 10.0... ? check next to eth0
[02:12] <freddy> what new hurricane?
[02:12] <Tuxedo_Kamen> 10.0.0.1
[02:12] <cafuego_> nalioth: done
[02:12] <rubem> nalioth, ok... thanks
[02:12] <freddy> 4 days to breezy? is that a new hurricane coming or what?
[02:12] <tyler_durden> nalioth nope my user is still with default settings
[02:12] <nalioth>  Tuxedo_Kamen go to another machine on your home network and sftp Tuxedo_Kamen@10.0.0.1
[02:12] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 'ifconfig | grep inet_addr'
[02:12] <cafuego_> freddy: yes
[02:13] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open a terminal
[02:13] <freddy> damn
[02:13] <cafuego_> freddy: 4 days to go and texas will be WIPED OUT.
[02:13] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: cool, you have the IP now do as nalioth suggests.
[02:13] <Cluster_Man> hey are the servers down guys?
[02:13] <freddy> damn, not good
[02:13] <tyler_durden> ok nalioth
[02:13] <cafuego_> freddy: Uh no, VERY good.
[02:13] <nalioth> tyler_durden: now "cd /root"
[02:13] <tyler_durden> done
[02:13] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but this way I would just connect from other computers in my network, I want to do it from my university...
[02:13] <aurax> hi, is there a simple way to create an automated backup to a external usb drive
[02:14] <rubem> I'm having a probleam with amsn. When I type amsn in the bash, it works, but when I select it from the menu, it didn't work... anyone know why?
[02:14] <freddy> cafuego, wtf?
[02:14] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: you'll need to look into IP Forwarding. do that on your router.
[02:14] <JDigital> the menu option must be faulty
[02:14] <TiMiDo> rubem did you installed it with apt-get?
[02:14] <nalioth> tyler_durden: now type "ls -al" and everything you see with a dot in front of it, type "cp .whatever /home/tyler_durden/"
[02:14] <Stricklin> I'm starting to get steamed.
[02:14] <rubem> TiMiDo yes
[02:14] <JDigital> this happens me in a few things in ubuntu
[02:14] <aurax> anyone?
[02:14] <rubem> hum
[02:14] <TiMiDo> rubem interesting,
[02:14] <Tuxedo_Kamen> -_- I have no idea on how to do that on ubuntu.... >_>
[02:14] <tyler_durden> thats a lot of files :P
[02:14] <cafuego_> freddy: the world will be a better place. I can't wait.
[02:14] <tyler_durden> :O*
[02:14] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: do it on your router. it's operating system independent.
[02:15] <freddy> cafuego, lol, thats nasty man....hurricane not good
[02:15] <rubem> TiMiDo: and when I try open with normal user, it did not work, only the root
[02:15] <Stricklin> Last week, using GnomeBaker in Hoary I burned multiple audio CDs from MP3 files... today, after installing Breezy, everybody is telling me I can't
[02:15] <fusioncow> hi
[02:15] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: visit portforward.com
[02:15] <TiMiDo> rubem oh ic, well no programs you open it with root,
[02:15] <fusioncow> anyone compiled the xosd plugin for gaim?
[02:15] <TiMiDo> hi fusioncow
[02:15] <TiMiDo> !info xosd
[02:15] <cafuego_> freddy: In related news, Breezy is the new Ubuntu release, scheduled for thursday.
[02:15] <Tuxedo_Kamen> static routing?
[02:15] <fusioncow> hi TiMiDo
[02:15] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 'forward' the IP of the machine hosting your SSH server to the router. note the *external* IP of your router and ssh/sftp/scp to that addr.
[02:15] <TiMiDo> fusioncow do sudo apt-cache search xosd
[02:16] <freddy> cafuego, LOL you bastard
[02:16] <fusioncow> TiMiDo: done, only give the xosd lib, not the gaim plugin.
[02:16] <steigweis> how do you burn dvds? i can only burn 4x instead of 8x like normally. is that a gnomebakerbug?
[02:16] <freddy> i thought you were serious
[02:16] <nalioth> steigweis: try k3b
[02:16] <cafuego_> freddy: Apart from it being a hurricane, I was! ;-)
[02:16] <nalioth> Belutz_zzz: wake up! you're nekkid
[02:16] <freddy> haha
[02:16] <TiMiDo> fusioncow try installing it then read the INSTALLME
[02:16] <delire> cafuego_: same policy on CD's as earlier releases?
[02:16] <TiMiDo> or the README
[02:16] <fusioncow> TiMiDo: from source, it appears to compile, but does not output any .so files.
[02:16] <steigweis> nalioth: k3b does burn only 4x too
[02:17] <tyler_durden> nalioth isnt there a way to cp /root/ /home/tylerdurden/?
[02:17] <delire> cafuego_: *shipping* cd's..
[02:17] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden why do you want to do that?
[02:17] <tyler_durden> too lazy to explain
[02:17] <TiMiDo> well explain
[02:17] <nalioth> tyler_durden: we tried that, you may try again "cp /root/* /home/tylerdurden/"
[02:17] <tyler_durden> nalioth is lready helping
[02:17] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:17] <tyler_durden> that wasnt the commandyou told me before nalioth
[02:17] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he is gettin his bot straitend out
[02:18] <TiMiDo> oh ic,
[02:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: it does the same thing
[02:18] <cafuego_> delire: policy on cd?
[02:18] <tyler_durden> it worked now :P
[02:18] <tyler_durden> ill go try
[02:18] <Tuxedo_Kamen> no idea how to do it >_>
[02:18] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen do what?
[02:18] <Tuxedo_Kamen> once again i'll ask, can anyone help me in private, setting up an ssh server?
[02:18] <delire> cafuego_ is canonical funding the free distribution of CD's ordered by the public?
[02:18] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen sudo apt-get install sshd
[02:18] <cafuego_> delire: No idea.
[02:18] <delire> cheers
[02:18] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you have it set up. now you need a lesson in port forwarding
[02:19] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he's got it set up
[02:19] <cafuego_> delire: I always burn my own and hand those out instead.
[02:19] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[02:19] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen what's the issue
[02:19] <TiMiDo> ?
[02:19] <Kelraith> is there a source to get java?
[02:19] <TiMiDo> !tell Kelraith about java
[02:19] <cafuego_> !java
[02:19] <delire> cafuego_ as do i. there has been some demand at a university i work at however.
[02:19] <ubotu> java is probably to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[02:19] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he needs some pointers on port forwarding so he can ssh into his box from outside his home network
[02:19] <steigweis> is it possible that gnomebaker,k3b etc. does only burn 4x with 8xdvd-r discs? do i need dvd+r?
[02:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kelraith about javadeb
[02:20] <nalioth> guys get with it !javadeb
[02:20] <TiMiDo> oh nalioth he should configured the router, then
[02:20] <cafuego_> delire: Well, THEY have a fat pipe, so they cna just download it, too <heh>
[02:20] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he needs help
[02:20] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but I never did port forwarding stuff, I have no idea how to....
[02:20] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[02:20] <_jason> nalioth:  can we just redefine java on the bot?
[02:20] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen what router is it?
[02:20] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: visit portforward.com
[02:20] <nalioth> _jason: good idea
[02:20] <cafuego_> _jason: to what?
[02:20] <tyler_durden> nalioth it didnt trasnfer ANY of my settings
[02:20] <Tuxedo_Kamen> speedtouch 510, I guess
[02:20] <tyler_durden> such as mousr sensetivity
[02:20] <delire> cafuego_ .. hehe yes.
[02:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you're gonna have to do it by hand
[02:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: a file/directory at a time
[02:21] <tyler_durden> are you sure ALL my settings are in the root folder?
[02:21] <TiMiDo> yes on /etc
[02:21] <TiMiDo> --> /etc is configurations,
[02:21] <tyler_durden> so can i do that command only replace /root/ with /et/c?
[02:21] <cafuego_> ubotu no, java is <reply> To install blackdown java, simply run 'sudo apt-get install j2re1.4'. For newer version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java for instructions.
[02:21] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[02:21] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, hum.... I went to that site and it say to me "your external ip address is X"... now, what port do I need to open in order to allow ssh to enter?
[02:22] <nalioth> tyler_durden: if you ran around as root, they are in /root/
[02:22] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen i asked you what router is it
[02:22] <cafuego_> _jason: better?
[02:22] <Tuxedo_Kamen> speedtouch 510, I guess!
[02:22] <TiMiDo> dlink linksys?
[02:22] <tyler_durden> oh youre right? it wasnt there before
[02:22] <tyler_durden> i only had 4 files there
[02:22] <cafuego_> TiMiDo: Yes, ubotu is a blootbot.
[02:22] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: read the site, please. it wants YOU to put numbers in for games and such. you dont need to play games, you should read how to port forward for your router brand
[02:22] <_jason> cafuego:  nope :P  make it like javadeb
[02:22] <TiMiDo> oh cool
[02:23] <tyler_durden> whats lost+found for?
[02:23] <tyler_durden> 
[02:23] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes you're busy and not lookin at yer /pm
[02:23] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen go here http://www.speedtouch.com/
[02:23] <cafuego_> _jason: I don't want to!
[02:23] <cafuego_> _jason: you do it.
[02:23] <_jason> cafuego:  l
[02:23] <_jason> cafuego:  k*
[02:23] <delire> tyler_durden: when there is data loss due to a system crash (rare) or similar, data is collated there in an indexed format.
[02:23] <tyler_durden> nalioth, can i browse to /tylerdurden/ using my root account and just paste all those files there?
[02:23] <Jeromee> nalioth: do you use your ubuntu system as a server?
[02:24] <nalioth> Jeromee: no i do not
[02:24] <tyler_durden> ty delire, i was confused about that
[02:24] <nalioth> tyler_durden: in a terminal, go to your /root/
[02:24] <cafuego_> _jason: Hold on
[02:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> I found this, is this it? --> "IP Address- And Routing Tables"
[02:24] <delire> tyler_durden: check out 'man 7 hier' for an overview of a typical Linux file system.
[02:24] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: you might be better off completely reinstalling ubuntu and actually setting up a regular, real user account from the beginning...
[02:24] <tyler_durden> ok nalioth, now what?
[02:24] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen read it,
[02:24] <TiMiDo> you need to open the ports with you're router
[02:25] <_jason> cafuego:  done
[02:25] <test34> "There is 1 item for post-update information available" won't disapear even if there is no items when I open it, or even if I reboot.. how can I get rid of it ?
[02:25] <tyler_durden> madpilot, 2 hours was, was my 4th reinstallment of ubuntu in the last 2 days
[02:25] <tyler_durden> im NOT doing that again
[02:25] <cafuego_> _jason: cool :-)
[02:25] <TiMiDo> test34 do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:25] <cafuego_> Seveas: Go to bed!
[02:25] <nalioth> tyler_durden: type "ls -al" and everything you see with a . in front of it, type "cp -r .bleh /home/tylerdurden/"
[02:25] <TiMiDo> lol
[02:25] <Tuxedo_Kamen> timido, I know I need to open ports, but which ones?
[02:25] <test34> Ill try that, thanks TiMiDo
[02:25] <tyler_durden> ok nalioth, ill do that but i somehow doubt it will work with my luck :(
[02:25] <TiMiDo> 23 Tuxedo_Kamen
[02:25] <tyler_durden> c ya in an hour once i finish
[02:26] <TiMiDo> test34 np
[02:26] <aurax> is there a backup server-client solution so my clients could backup their server using windows?
[02:26] <test34> TiMiDo, nothing got installed.. and it is still there
[02:26] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: so why didn't you set up a regular user account? (curious...)
[02:26] <elmus> where do I post package requests for xubuntu
[02:26] <TiMiDo> test34 do apt-get update and then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:26] <TiMiDo> elmus on the mailing list
[02:27] <seethru> /msg #ubuntuforums kair: nice desktop
[02:27] <Rockett18> there actually is a xubuntu now?
[02:27] <seethru> sigh
[02:27] <seethru> mt
[02:27] <elmus> TiMiDo: thanks
[02:27] <Tuxedo_Kamen> tcp or udp?
[02:27] <TiMiDo> np
[02:27] <Madpilot> elmus: there is a #xubuntu channel
[02:27] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen dude if you don't know ur router i'm sad
[02:27] <seethru> TiMiDo: a sad panda?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> ok what the heck is xubuntu...
[02:27] <elmus> Madpilot:I'll check it out
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i missed somthing.
[02:27] <test34> TiMiDo, ok trying..
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !xubuntu
[02:27] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Not a clue
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:28] <delire> !xubuntu
[02:28] <delire> hmm
[02:28] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: it's Ubuntu using XFCE instead of gnome or kde
[02:28] <Jeromee> anyone know of a SFTP server for ubuntu?
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Jeromee ftpd
[02:28] <Ramah> what would a good free webhost be?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  egads... YetANother "just the desktop'" is different spin off? :P
[02:28] <cafuego_> Jeromee:  openssh-server
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Ramah you'r pc
[02:29] <Tuxedo_Kamen> -_-
[02:29] <Ramah> my pc doesn't not have the proper uptime
[02:29] <Jeromee> cafuego_: openssh-server is a sftp?
[02:29] <Tuxedo_Kamen> timido, I just don't know if I have to open port 23 as tcp, udp or both!
[02:29] <bob2> Jeromee: yes
[02:29] <cafuego_> Jeromee: that runs an sftp server by default, I think. Install it and check /etc/ss/sshd_config
[02:29] <TiMiDo> try both Tuxedo_Kamen
[02:29] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you're using ftp, why do you have a firewall?
[02:29] <Jeromee> oh, awesome
[02:29] <Jeromee> thanks.
[02:29] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: port 22 is what ssh uses
[02:29] <Tuxedo_Kamen> I don't have one, but I use a router
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> XXXubuntu - porn for people.
[02:30] <snausages> sb home
[02:30] <test34> TiMiDo, I use the graphical updating tool all the time, so I doudt it will work, it probably does the same thing in the background
[02:30] <snausages> err
[02:30] <TiMiDo> bla yeah 22.
[02:30] <TiMiDo> sure it does test34
[02:30] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, ok, I'll open 22 as tcp and udp
[02:30] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: forwarding ports on your router is not sufficient for your computer to work as an ftp server
[02:30] <delire> Dr_Willis: if you didn't say it ... ;)
[02:30] <Tuxedo_Kamen> what else do I need?
[02:30] <nalioth> bob2: Tuxedo_Kamen is after ssh capability from his uni
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> delire,  imagine the boot up screen!
[02:30] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you are fine
[02:30] <cafuego_> Sacrifice a goat!
[02:30] <bob2> oh, ok
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> with the  xxxdm login manager
[02:31] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: tcp port 22 for ssh/sftp, no need for udp
[02:31] <hosler> Can someone link me to a good repository list for BREEZY?
[02:31] <pbutter> hey guys, is there a way to use the ubuntu live cd to install?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> pbutter,  not that i have heard of.
[02:31] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :|
[02:31] <bob2> hosler: your /etc/apt/sources.list contains all the ubuntu repositories already
[02:31] <bob2> pbutter: not simply
[02:31] <pbutter> okay thanks
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> pbutter,  heard it may be doable in the future
[02:32] <hosler> bob2: mine got deleted by easy ubuntu
[02:32] <Tuxedo_Kamen> bob2, my router only allows me to pick tcp and udp! So, should I only use tcp?
[02:32] <bob2> what on earth is "easy ubuntu"?
[02:32] <nalioth> hosler: dont use those things
[02:32] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: yes
[02:32] <nalioth> bob2: a script for "easy" ubuntu that eats ubuntu instead
[02:32] <hosler> bob2: a stupid program which i thought would be helpfull but in fact messed up my system.
[02:32] <ibrasil> i instaled w32codec but video does not appear, only sound. some idea?
[02:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hosler about sources
[02:32] <bob2> oh, shock
[02:32] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ok, I did it
[02:32] <Tuxedo_Kamen> what's next?
[02:32] <cafuego_> bob2: iWorm.Linux.EasyUbuntu
[02:32] <Zhukov_> ibrasil, wich w32codecs?
[02:32] <bob2> cafuego_: hah
[02:32] <delire> cafuego_ ahah, thanks for clearing that up.
[02:32] <ibrasil> yes
[02:33] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: try it
[02:33] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: get your external IP and go visit someone
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> bob2,  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-64629.html    perhaps
[02:33] <Zhukov_> ibrasil, hoarys or breezys?
[02:33] <ibrasil> i try to open divx, mpeg ....
[02:33] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :S
[02:33] <nalioth> ibrasil: some wmv wont play video at all
[02:33] <ibrasil> hoary
[02:33] <Tuxedo_Kamen> sorry if this seems a stupid question, but how can I try it?
[02:34] <ibrasil> nothing
[02:34] <ibrasil> i try to
[02:34] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: didn't work
[02:34] <_jason> ibrasil:  what player?
[02:34] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ?
[02:34] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: get your external IP (can be found on your router setup utility )
[02:34] <Tuxedo_Kamen> bob2, what do you mean?
[02:34] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: either you don't have the ssh server installed and running, or your port forwarding was done incorrectly
[02:34] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: or your ISP blocks port 22 incoming
[02:35] <ibrasil> totem
[02:35] <nalioth> bob2: did i miss somethink in the Tuxedo_Kamen tale?
[02:35] <bob2> nalioth: I don't know, but his IP is refusing port 22
[02:35] <Tuxedo_Kamen> bob2, try now...
[02:36] <ibrasil> a try gxine to
[02:36] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: After you check that it works by IP, the easiest way of making sure you can get in externally, is by running a 'dyndns' client on your computer. That way you get a hostname to ssh to.
[02:36] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: if your ISP does block port 22 incoming, as bob2 suggests, you can start sshd on a different port with '/usr/sbin/sshd -p 2001' for instance
[02:36] <cafuego_> bob2: refusing is good, just hanging is bad...
[02:36] <Tuxedo_Kamen> no, I don't think they block any ports
[02:36] <hosler> nalioth: thanks
[02:37] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: i just got in
[02:37] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: assuming you're irc'ng fro mthe same IP, it's still blocked
[02:37] <hosler> uboto: tell hosler about music organizers
[02:37] <nalioth> bob2: strange. i got in
[02:37] <Tuxedo_Kamen> bob2, so how did nalioth got in? :S
[02:37] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: hm, no, I'm dumbe
[02:37] <hosler> ubotu: tell hosler about music organizers
[02:37] <hosler> ubotu: tell hosler about music
[02:37] <hosler> whatever
[02:38] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: it works OK.
[02:38] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: now go and find your external IP and go visiting
[02:38] <Tuxedo_Kamen> o_O how do I do that?
[02:38] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: Now go to www.dyndns.org, set up a hostname, install a dyndns client and configure that.
[02:38] <apollo2011> hieveryone
[02:38] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: do you know your router setup page?
[02:38] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yeah
[02:38] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen:http://www.hostip.info/
[02:39] <hosler> Is there a way to get zsnes to use esound? The sound in zsnes doesnt work sometimes because the device is allready being used.
[02:39] <bob2> hosler: esddsp zsnes
[02:39] <bob2> tho it will probably be crap even if it does work
[02:39] <hosler> bob2: the sound lags with that
[02:39] <bob2> right
[02:39] <apollo2011> bravo to all those who worked on Breezy.  I just upgraded from Hoary on my Dell Inspiron 8600 and all the hardware problems I was having and were keeping me from using Ubuntu on my laptop, have been resolved.  It seems to work seamlessly with all the special featurs of the laptop, like the volume control buttons.
[02:39] <vicCodd2> nesecito ayuda
[02:40] <apollo2011> however, I have one problem,
[02:40] <The_Vox> vicCodd2: #ubuntu-es
[02:40] <Tuxedo_Kamen> vicCodd2, que lngua hablas?
[02:40] <nalioth> !es
[02:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:40] <hosler> vicCodd2: como se dice ayuda en engleis?
[02:40] <bob2> vicCodd2: er, #ubuntu-es or #debian-es
[02:40] <apollo2011> every time I boot, I get an error that says HAL was not started.  What do I need to do to get HAL to start properly?
[02:40] <hosler> what is HAL anyway?
[02:41] <nalioth> hosler: hardware abstraction layer
[02:41] <cafuego_> !hal
[02:41] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.
[02:41] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum, ok, now I am not understanding... how do I connect from another computer to this one?
[02:41] <hosler> oh
[02:41] <apollo2011> yes
[02:41] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: ssh yourip
[02:41] <hosler> Tuxedo_Kamen: do you mean website or file sharing or what?
[02:41] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you go to uni, open a gui ftp client that does ssh, and put your home IP, your home username and pass
[02:42] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ok, but I have dynamic ip, isn't that a problem?
[02:42] <hosler> Tuxedo_Kamen: putty is a good ssh client.
[02:42] <pioneer> how do i fix    #error libXpm has not been found
[02:42] <WinZ> Help me please! How I can load default keymap for my standart Mitsumi keyboard?
[02:42] <bob2> pioneer: by installing it?
[02:42] <benkong2> can I fix it so a user can CRUD my apache files without having to sudo?
[02:42] <bob2> pioneer: what are you compiling?
[02:43] <bob2> benkong2: "crud" is a verb?
[02:43] <delire> pioneer: install the libxpm -dev package
[02:43] <benkong2> bob2; Create Read Update Delete. sorry
[02:43] <bob2> benkong2: you can make an apache-admin group own the apache config files
[02:43] <Tuxedo_Kamen> 3 questions:  I have dynamic ip, isn't that a problem? also, how do I set the permissions? Or, after logging in, I have permissions exactly as in my computer?
[02:43] <pioneer> bob2 mplayer plugin because of issues with whats in the repos not working, i have the devs and all that for libxpm, same same tho
[02:43] <StylusEater> anybody had any luck with an ma111 netgear usb wireless adapter?
[02:43] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: 1. dyndns, 2. you don't have to, 3. yes
[02:43] <delire> pioneer: it seeks 'header' files. 'apt-cache search libxpm dev' --> "libxpm-dev - X pixmap library development files"
[02:44] <hosler> benkong2: chmod the files.
[02:44] <ksmurf> which is better for iptables ... firestarter or guarddog
[02:44] <delire> pioneer: then ./configure && make again..
[02:44] <benkong2> bob2; according to apache2.conf www-data is what it runs under is that who needsto own the dirs?
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: worked fine
[02:44] <bob2> benkong2: absolutely not
[02:44] <pioneer> delire, i have them and have ldconfig, i dunno
[02:44] <pioneer> i have
[02:44] <bob2> benkong2: www-data should never own anything
[02:44] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: once you log in, you are on YOUR box (your linux doesnt care if you aren't sitting in front of it)
[02:44] <StylusEater> bob2: I plugged it in and I can't find it with an lsmod or lspci???
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: yes, of course
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: why would lspci show a usb device?
[02:44] <StylusEater> I did a modprobe prims2
[02:44] <benkong2> hmmm... ok I just looked in the .conf file and noted that www-data is the user and group
[02:44] <StylusEater> bob2: good point
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: 'sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1'
[02:44] <StylusEater> bob2: too many beers at espn zone tonight
[02:45] <StylusEater> bob2: I did that already
[02:45] <bob2> StylusEater: 'sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable'
[02:45] <StylusEater> ahh...everytime I try that command
[02:45] <StylusEater> I get a wlanctl-ng not found
[02:45] <bob2> StylusEater: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="ssid" authtype=opensystem
[02:45] <hosler> benkong2: You want people to be able to do anything to the files, right?
[02:45] <bob2> StylusEater: er, so install it? packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what package it is in.
[02:45] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, cool
[02:45] <ksmurf> which is better for iptables ... firestarter or guarddog???
[02:45] <bob2> ksmurf: whichever you prefer
[02:45] <StylusEater> bob2: fair nuff...danke
[02:45] <ksmurf> k thanks
[02:46] <nalioth> ksmurf: personal preference
[02:46] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, I just registered on dyndns, what should I do next?
[02:46] <bob2> benkong2: if you want a group of people to be able to edit the config files, make a new group, add people to it, then give that group permission to touch the files
[02:46] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: go to services, and dynamic dns and make a hostname for yourself
[02:46] <ksmurf> nalioth ... u prefer ..... which?
[02:46] <benkong2> bob2; thanks
[02:46] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: they also have a program you can install to auto-update your ip whenever it changes
[02:47] <nalioth> ksmurf: i dont use a firewall. there is no reason to in a default installation
[02:47] <benkong2> hosler; yes just me I am the server admin
[02:47] <ksmurf> nalioth... k thanks
[02:47] <jbuberel> anyone else just sync up to the latest breezy snapshot then start getting extreme slowness launching any app that uses GTK?
[02:47] <hosler> benkong2: man chown, man chmod
[02:47] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, isn't creating an host (I created mykas0.dyndns.org ) enough?
[02:48] <benkong2> hosler; doing that now thanks
[02:48] <WinZ> Here is dmesg log: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[02:48] <WinZ> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:49] <apollo2011> So how can I get HAL to start properly on startup in Breezy?
[02:49] <GTroy> anyone know why I can only use my browser, or irc, or downloading?
[02:49] <GTroy> then everything else quits?
[02:49] <bob2> apollo2011: if it doesn't, and you didn't do anything silly like break dbus, file a bug
[02:49] <apollo2011> bob2: ok
[02:49] <bob2> GTroy: what does "free -m" print?
[02:50] <GTroy> holdon
[02:50] <apollo2011> bob2:  all I did was upgrade so I guess that qualifies as nothing...I don't think I messed up dbus in doing so
[02:50] <GTroy> I'm on my ibook
[02:50] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: what do you mean it isn't creating?
[02:50] <GTroy> what should I look for?
[02:50] <Daishi> im using the ubuntu live cd and i just wanted to know how i get cdrecord to work?
[02:50] <evian> I'm having trouble figuring out why nvidia drivers make my screen just go black. Someone earlier suggested I look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I couldn't see anything useful in there.
[02:50] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can you please try it?
[02:50] <bob2> GTroy: show us...
[02:51] <Daishi> cdrecord -scanbus complains about being unable to open /dev/pg*
[02:51] <bob2> evian: are you using binary only drivers?
[02:51] <evian> yeah
[02:51] <bob2> Daishi: don't bother with it unless you actually have a SCSI cd burner
[02:51] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: tried pining that host, request timed out.
[02:51] <seethru> pinging*
[02:51] <Daishi> theres no ide-scsi working?
[02:51] <evian> bob2, just the deb
[02:51] <GTroy> mem 473 used 459 free 13 shared 0 buffers 27 cached 304
[02:51] <bob2> Daishi: ? sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdwhatever foo.iso
[02:51] <Daishi> oo
[02:52] <Daishi> heh
[02:52] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: did you set that host to your ip?
[02:52] <evian> bob2, I started to try to do a manual install, but the nvidia install program noted that my gcc was a different version than some of the stuff it was going to install, so I chickened out of that
[02:52] <pioneer> bob2, and delire, thx i didnt reconfig after i installed the xpm crap
[02:52] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yeah, I think so
[02:53] <evian> (I'm running breezy)
[02:53] <Daishi> i forgot about that, my os is normally slack and the drive is on its way out, i always had to work with the x,x,x because i never had cdrecord patched
[02:53] <Daishi> thanks bob2
[02:54] <n0odl3> is there a way to defrag the hard drive in linux
[02:54] <aurax> does anyone knows of a solution to backup ubuntu server from a windows machine ?
[02:54] <nalioth> n0odl3: linux doesnt get fragmented
[02:54] <seethru> n0odl3: don't need to, thats what the 5% that linux keeps is for
[02:54] <n0odl3> oh cool
[02:54] <n0odl3> thank you nalioth and seethru
[02:54] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, when they ask me about the interface used, what should I write?
[02:55] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: interface used? hold on heh lemme bring up the page
[02:55] <jbuberel> aurax - take a look at 'dar': http://dar.linux.free.fr/
[02:55] <Hobbsee> it seems so weird not needing to defrag...
[02:55] <jbuberel> very nice backup app, works on win and linux.
[02:55] <GTroy> bob2, or nalioth: what would cause only one internet connection? like irc, or FF, or downloading?
[02:55] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, I am installing ddclient, and then they asked me for that information...
[02:55] <aurax> ty jbuberel
[02:56] <nalioth> GTroy: i'm not sure i understand what you're asking
[02:56] <wolf1> hi, just installed ubuntu 5.04. it detected windows, created a windows directory, but doesn't provide me with dual-boot. what can i do to have dual-boot please?
[02:56] <GTroy> if I download something I can't connect to teh web, or irc
[02:56] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: whichever interface you use to connect to the net, probably eth0
[02:56] <StylusEater> bob2: still can't find it...even after a google.com/linux a google.com and a search of packages.ubuntu.com .... any idea what package wlanctl is bundled with?
[02:56] <GTroy> or if I have FF working I can't connect with xchat
[02:56] <jbuberel> wolf1: google on linux daulboot howto: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[02:57] <nalioth> GTroy: have you restarted your box?
[02:57] <benkong2> wolf1; did you look at grub menu.list my install placed windows as the last entry
[02:57] <Madpilot> wolf1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:57] <GTroy> no not yet
[02:57] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :| what should I put in "run ddclient on ppp connect?" and "run ddclient as daemon?", hum ?
[02:57] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: do you use dialup?
[02:58] <GTroy> I thought it was a router/dns problem
[02:58] <Tuxedo_Kamen> no, a router and adsl
[02:58] <wolf1> benkong2 windows isn't listed in menu.ls
[02:58] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: then run as daemon
[02:58] <nalioth> GTroy: have you restarted the router?
[02:58] <benkong2> wolf1; look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:58] <GTroy> nope
[02:59] <nalioth> GTroy: perhaps restarting both?
[02:59] <GTroy> ok
[02:59] <Tuxedo_Kamen> "ddclient update interval:300" should I leave it with value 300 ?
[02:59] <wolf1> Madpilot i checked the url but it doesn't provide me with an answer to setup grup to dual-boot
[02:59] <GTroy> back in a minute
[02:59] <wolf1> benkong2 i checked, windows isn't listed in menu.ls
[02:59] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: thats probably in seconds, so that'll be 5 minutes, put it up a bit more heh
[02:59] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: don't wanna flood dyndns.org
[03:00] <Tuxedo_Kamen> 600, is it fine?
[03:00] <benkong2> wolf1; ok follow the wiki docs from above by Madpilot
[03:00] <wolf1> jbuberel i have win98
[03:00] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: unfortunately I've gtg now for a bit and go home (at work atm), if you're still experiencing issues I can continue helping yo then
[03:00] <jbuberel> wolf1 - ouch - sorry to hear that :)
[03:00] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum, I hope anyone else can help me, since I have to go soon too :-\
[03:00] <Tuxedo_Kamen> but seethru, thanks! :)
[03:01] <bimberi> StylusEater: the linux-wlan-ng"package includes /sbin/wlanctl-ng
[03:01] <Hendric> OMG.. help me!!! i updated my system awhile ago (478 packages) i want to burn them on a CD for future reinstallation.. and now its gone on the /var/cache/apt folder.. where can i find it???
[03:01] <benkong2> Tuxedo_Kamen; run it as a cron job on the 1st and 15th of the month or what ever you like there should be an example in the docs on your system
[03:01] <cafuego_> Hendric: If it's not in /var/cache/apt/archives, it's deleted.
[03:01] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum? That just sounded like chinese to me! :-\
[03:02] <danny> how do you close a program if it won't close? i have the pid and i have tried the "top" program to close it.
[03:02] <wolf1> benkong2 i already installed ubuntu - the wiki docs is for a new install
[03:02] <Hendric> OMG!!! :( that was a 4 hour update.. :(
[03:02] <nalioth> danny: alt-f2, enter 'xkill' and the next thing you touch, dies
[03:02] <cafuego_> danny: In top, hit 'k', then type the pid, hit return, then type '9' for the signal.
[03:03] <danny> thank you
[03:03] <cafuego_> Hendric: You probably configured synaptic or update manager to delete files older then X days.
[03:03] <Hendric> cafuego, this is a newly installed system.. haven't set any.
[03:04] <Hendric> and the update took place like 30mins ago
[03:04] <Hendric> i restarted.. attached my CD writer and now its gone.
[03:04] <benkong2> Tuxedo_Kamen; look in /usr/share/doc/ddclient/examples/
[03:04] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :S
[03:04] <Hendric> we'll.. life is a bubble gum..
[03:04] <Tuxedo_Kamen> well, I think it is working now
[03:05] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone please check? /usr/share/doc/ddclient/examples/
[03:05] <cafuego_> Hendric: Did you check /var/cache/apt or /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[03:05] <Hendric> i did cafuego
[03:05] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yikes, I mean, mykas0.dyndns.org
[03:05] <cafuego_> Hendric: Then it's gone.
[03:05] <Hendric> spilled milk..
[03:05] <Hendric> thanks anyway
[03:05] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: You need to set the interface to 'web' in the ddclient config file.
[03:06] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: Coz at the moment it's using the IP 10.0.0.1
[03:06] <Tuxedo_Kamen> cafuego_ , where can I find that config file?
[03:06] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: /etc/ or /etc/ddclient
[03:07] <GTroy_> problem solved nalioth!
[03:07] <cdub_> yo
[03:07] <nalioth> GTroy__: good to hear
[03:07] <cdub_> anyone from phx?
[03:07] <Stricklin> Anybody else having problems burning CDs in Breezy? Using GnomeBaker, it converts MP3s to audio, says it's beginning to burn, then crashes without as much as an error message.
[03:07] <nalioth> Stricklin: try k3b
[03:07] <Stricklin> okay
[03:07] <cdub_> anyone know how to get totem to play .wmv
[03:08] <nalioth> cdub_: /msg ubotu w32codecs   and wmv3 wont play iirc
[03:08] <Licker> what was the command to allow access to a DIR?
[03:09] <StylusEater> bob2: I found the package and installed it...now I get a "no such device" error...
[03:09] <_jason> Licker:  more specific?
[03:09] <cdub_> win32codecs from where?
[03:09] <nalioth> !tell cdub_ about w32codecs
[03:09] <nalioth> cdub_: read the bots msg
[03:10] <Licker> like i try to add a file to var\www\ but it says i dont have acces etc..
[03:11] <_jason> Licker:  are you using sudo?
[03:11] <nalioth> Licker: use /usr/local/var/www
[03:11] <Tuxedo_Kamen> cafuego_ , now what like exactly do I need to change? ----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2956
[03:12] <Licker> i used the File Browser first becaus I fergot the sudo command....
[03:12] <Licker> ] :/
[03:12] <Madpilot> !+cli
[03:12] <ubotu> cli is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[03:12] <Licker> i didnt write it down. lolz
[03:12] <_jason> !tell Licker about sudo
[03:12] <Madpilot> Licker: see the BasicCommands URL above, and bookmark it! ;)
[03:13] <nalioth> Licker: the system uses /var/. you should use /usr/local/var/   (/usr/local/ is for locally installed things)
[03:13] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: See my revision
[03:13] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, can you please check it my ssh is working?
[03:14] <evian> bob2, should I try a manual install of nvidia drivers as described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 ?
[03:14] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: it is up
[03:14] <cafuego_> evian: No.
[03:14] <evian> ok
[03:14] <cafuego_> evian: The prepackaged drivers should work fine.
[03:14] <evian> ok
[03:14] <evian> it would be nice if they did :)
[03:15] <cafuego_> What card you got?
[03:15] <bluefoxicy> xchat seems to spontaneously crash after 30 days?
[03:15] <evian> 4200ti something or other
[03:15] <evian> let me check...
[03:15] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum, ok
[03:15] <cafuego_> That's a geforce4 variety, isn't it?
[03:15] <evian> yes
[03:15] <Versed> Doesn't for me, both under ubuntu and osx.
[03:15] <windex> bluefoxicy, you can get X/gnome to run 30 days straight?!?!?!?
[03:15] <Tuxedo_Kamen> just some more questions... can I create a new account, which could only read files from a certain place, and not erase them?
[03:16] <cafuego_> evian: You'll want the OLD drivers then... let me see...
[03:16] <evian> oh!
[03:16] <Mercutio> can anyone help me with my display drivers??
[03:16] <Amaranth> windex: 30 days is nothing
[03:16] <evian> thanks cafuego_
[03:16] <cafuego_> nvidia-glx-legacy or somesuch
[03:16] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: sure
[03:16] <Stricklin> nalioth, yep, you're right. Seems to be something about GnomeBaker because k3b is burning just fine.
[03:16] <bluefoxicy> windex:  21:14:30 up 30 days,  7:43,  6 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.80, 0.92
[03:16] <Tuxedo_Kamen> how? :|
[03:16] <boxerboy29> bluefoxicy: are you using a name that you first used with the xchat installed with ubuntu or did you get the name from a demo version of xchat?
[03:16] <windex> Amaranth, for some reason about once a month i have to restart X because something isin't responding.
[03:16] <cafuego_> evian: ... and their associated kernel module package
[03:16] <bluefoxicy> boxerboy29:  a name?
[03:16] <evian> ok I'll search in synaptic, I thought the "unified" drivers covered my card
[03:16] <windex> Amaranth, but i dont have to reboot. ctrl+alt+backspace. one time i had to log into my box via ssh from another box and killall -9 Xorg .. :P
[03:17] <boxerboy29> the name bluefoxicy
[03:17] <nalioth> bluefoxicy: make a new account and permission it with System > Admin > Users and Groups
[03:17] <bluefoxicy> boxerboy29:  I've had this data since before ubuntu existed.  I've been using linux for years.
[03:17] <Mercutio> or can anyone help me with gstreamer?
[03:17] <benkong2> does splashy work with breezy?
[03:18] <boxerboy29> the only reason i was thinking is maybe like mirc a demo would make your xchat crash after the time is up sorrry didnt know youve been using it for years
[03:18] <cafuego_> evian: nvidia did something silly in their latest drivers, it breaks support for older cards.
[03:18] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, sorry to bother you, but can you tell me how to create a new user, which can you only read files from a certain place?
[03:19] <cafuego_> xchat crahses because it's shit. use irssi.
[03:19] <windex> cafuego, they have to promote upgrading somehow
[03:19] <nix4me> xchat is fine
[03:19] <Mercutio> does anyone know of any support for ati's olde cards?
[03:19] <nix4me> nothing wrong with it
[03:19] <boxerboy29> my xchat has always worked fine
[03:19] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: System > Admin > Users and Groups
[03:19] <windex> cafuego, you started emacs vs vi, irc client edition. you fail it. :D
[03:19] <cafuego_> I'm not saying anything is wrong with it, I'm just saying it's shit.
[03:19] <nix4me> lol, whatever
[03:19] <cafuego_> !start an editor war
[03:19] <ubotu> kate is better than xemacs
[03:20] <evian> cafuego: so the geforce4 cards have a geforce2 chipset, is that it?
[03:20] <cafuego_> windex:  muaha!
[03:20] <Mercutio> ok this is the support channel for ubuntu right?
[03:20] <cafuego_> evian: With added steroids, I believe so, yes.
[03:20] <nalioth> Mercutio: yes it is
[03:20] <Versed> irssi, xchat it comes down to preferences.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> Mercutio: yes
[03:20] <Versed> of which you like.
[03:20] <Madpilot> Mercutio: how old is your ATI card?
[03:20] <evian> cafuego_, thanks
[03:20] <Mercutio> it is brand new, but it is an radeon 7000
[03:20] <tyler_durden> shoyld i have some folders in my home folder? such as var, usr, media?
[03:21] <Madpilot> !tell Mercutio about ati
[03:21] <Mercutio> I don't need anything more powerful
[03:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: not really
[03:21] <tyler_durden> how come i have that?
[03:21] <cafuego_> Mercutio: That ought to work right out of the box.
[03:21] <Mercutio> I am learning there are all sorts of bugs with it
[03:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: why do you?
[03:21] <tyler_durden> and nalioth, i transfered ALL those files in tylerdurden and nothing changed
[03:21] <Madpilot> Mercutio: see the msg ubotu just sent you for some help
[03:21] <tyler_durden> i guess ill to have reinstall damn ubuntu for the 5th time
[03:21] <tyler_durden> this is getting on my nerves
[03:21] <Mercutio> ok and I did the one how to from wiki and nothing is changed
[03:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open xterm. type "man chmod"
[03:22] <boxerboy29> to register a nick its /msg nickserv register <name>???
[03:22] <tyler_durden> i know what chmod is
[03:22] <nalioth> boxerboy29: not name, but your password
[03:22] <Mercutio> I modified the drivers and it still shows little lines and wierd colours
[03:22] <Madpilot> boxerboy29: /msg nickserv help
[03:22] <boxerboy29> ok ty
[03:23] <trekrem> people using 5.10 preview, how's the stability? i know it's only a few days away, but i have the time to test it out now
[03:23] <mfuentes> hi, is Banshee on Breezy ready to use?
[03:23] <nalioth> trekrem: it's fine
[03:23] <liquidten2> trekrem:  it's pretty good
[03:23] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, what should I write in "main group", for the new user?
[03:23] <mfuentes> trekrem, very good
[03:23] <onehotguitarplay> hello, can anybody help me with this question...need to find a cd plug in for all of the multimedia...
[03:23] <slew> i like it
[03:23] <danny> i'm using BootIT NG to resize my linux partition.  After its resized how do i make linux update the partition size?  i believe there is a resize2fs command or something similar but i can't remember.
[03:24] <calamari> hi
[03:24] <trekrem> thanks! commencing install...now!
[03:24] <calamari> I've asked this question a few times.. so I'm hoping 5th or 6th time is the charm
[03:24] <Mercutio> ok my other problem is that I hav gstreamer installed but still no MP3 works
[03:24] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: $user
[03:24] <Dreamglider> how do i update from 5.10 preview til RC ?
[03:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ok
[03:24] <mfuentes> Mercutio, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can you give it a try?
[03:24] <Dreamglider> how do i update from 5.10 preview to RC ?
[03:25] <calamari> sometimes my hard drive light goes on solid and my computer freezes up.. this is for no reason.  Only started after upgrading to hoary
[03:25] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you can try it
[03:25] <calamari> I need to know why this is happening
[03:25] <Tuxedo_Kamen> o_O can i?
[03:25] <mfuentes> Dreamglider,  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:25] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: dont give out usernames and passwords in here
[03:25] <calamari> is there a way I can find out what programs are accessing my hard drive?
[03:25] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: open a terminal and type sftp newusername@yourIP
[03:25] <calamari> or is linux not able to know that?
[03:26] <onehotguitarplay> what program can i use to get my mpeg to play?? anyone??
[03:26] <bob2> onehotguitarplay: mplayer
[03:26] <onehotguitarplay> how is that?
[03:26] <mfuentes> My Banshee music playe not import my music :(
[03:26] <bob2> how is what?
[03:26] <slew> onehotguitarplay, try kaffeine
[03:26] <slew> or vlc
[03:26] <calamari> bob2: do you happen to have any ideas?  please?
[03:26] <calamari> I'm afraid that one of these times I'm gonna lose everythign and have to strart ovber
[03:26] <Mercutio> ok how do I get the gstreamer-mad, its not in the list onsynaptic
[03:26] <onehotguitarplay> is that what it is called, mplayer...
[03:26] <slew> calamari, try typing 'top' in a terminal
[03:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mercutio about sources
[03:27] <calamari> slew: I tried.. it was too frozen to run the command
[03:27] <bob2> calamari: no user program can hard-lock your machine
[03:27] <calamari> slew: or too busy
[03:27] <bob2> (aside from X)
[03:27] <slew> ahh
[03:27] <apocxp> Go hear for instructions on installing other codecs:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28fonts%29
[03:27] <bob2> onehotguitarplay: yes...
[03:27] <mfuentes> Mercutio, add the "universe" and "multiverse" sections
[03:27] <bob2> all this codec crap is silly
[03:27] <calamari> bob2: I'm not sure.. I was havinbg trouble with the find command writing some find database
[03:27] <calamari> bob2: and that was freezing me..
[03:28] <calamari> bob2: so I think it's possible
[03:28] <gnomefreak> :) that was easy
[03:28] <danny> i'm using BootIT NG to resize my linux partition.  After its resized how do i make linux update the partition size?  i believe there is a resize2fs command or something similar but i can't remember.
[03:28] <onehotguitarplay> thanks I will give it a try
[03:28] <calamari> some poorly written background problem is just taking over my hard drive for a while and making it puke
[03:28] <calamari> anyone know how I can figure out which programs are using my hard drive?
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> are there like new updates comming out every hr. :P seems im constantly gettung update messages on 5.10 today
[03:29] <calamari> I'm tired of my computer freezing up
[03:29] <nalioth> calamari: install and run 'xdiskusage"
[03:30] <calamari> nalioth: does that monitor what is using the disk in real time?
[03:30] <nalioth> calamari: you want "top"
[03:30] <benkong2> why is it my new install of apache2 shows a directory listing of /var/www/ and I have to click on apache2-default to get the apache test page?
[03:30] <calamari> nalioth: okay I'm runnign top.. which column is disk usage?
[03:31] <cafuego_> and stay out
[03:31] <calamari> nalioth: I'm trying to figure out which program or process keeps locking up my computer by using my hard disk
[03:31] <hablandocontigo> when's Breezy coming out?
[03:31] <wolf1> hi benkong2 i changed menu.lst but when i selected windows it just hangs. unable to boot
[03:31] <Hobbsee> !breezy
[03:31] <hablandocontigo> 4 days
[03:31] <nalioth> calamari: do you have another machine and a home network?
[03:32] <calamari> nalioth: I have a 68k mac and a 486dx
[03:32] <benkong2> wolf1; means your windows is not in (hd1,0)
[03:32] <bob2> calamari: er, if you have disk errors, you have lost, have a nice day
[03:32] <calamari> nalioth: besides this machine that is
[03:32] <bob2> calamari: replace the disk and see if the problem persists
[03:32] <steigweis> should one shut down the machine with shutdown -h or init 0. what is the better way and why?
[03:32] <calamari> bob2: I dont have disk errors
[03:32] <bob2> benkong2: change the docroot in apache2.conf to that dir then
[03:32] <adell> hi
[03:32] <bob2> calamari: "trouble with the find command writing some find database"
[03:33] <calamari> bob2: I have programs accessing my hard drive, locking it on solid and causing my computer to grind to a halt
[03:33] <adell> someone speak portuguese :D
[03:33] <wolf1> benkong2 i tried (hd0,0) (hd1,1) but no success
[03:33] <nalioth> calamari: if you ssh into this machine, you can run top and watch it for when the machine freezes
[03:33] <bob2> calamari: define halyt
[03:33] <bob2> calamari: is it locked up? do things just take a really long time to start?
[03:33] <wolf1> benkong2 according to du : /dev/hdb1             3.1G  1.4G  1.7G  46% /windows
[03:33] <bob2> why did I even reply to you if I have to *ask* things like this?
[03:33] <benkong2> wolf1; it should be hd1,0 that menas second hd 1st partition
[03:33] <adell> boa noite
[03:34] <calamari> bob2: at first things take a long time (because of the 100% hdd usage), then the pointer freezes up.. cant do anything but power down or reset
[03:34] <nalioth> !pt
[03:34] <nalioth> ah dang
[03:34] <nalioth> portugues en #ubuntu-pt
[03:34] <benkong2> then your windows is actually mounted in ubuntu but you need to get it to boot
[03:34] <bob2> calamari: what on earth is running?
[03:34] <benkong2> bob2; thanks
[03:34] <calamari> bob2: that's what I want to know.. what is screwing me up
[03:35] <bob2> calamari: this is a default system?
[03:35] <calamari> bob2: it'll just do this out of the blue
[03:35] <adell> nalioth, thanks and is pt_BR ;)
[03:35] <wolf1> benkong2 yes i tried hd1,0 but it just hangs
[03:35] <calamari> bob2: yeah.. hoary, upgraded from warty
[03:35] <slew> calamari, can you free up some space on your drive? do you have a good sized /swap?
[03:35] <calamari> bob2: never had these problems in warty
[03:35] <calamari> slew: I have plenty of free disk
[03:36] <benkong2> wolf1; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:36] <benkong2> wolf1; then do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb and find where you windows partition is located
[03:37] <calamari> slew: I have 256mb swap space.. 384mb ram
[03:37] <wolf1> benkong2 /dev/hdb1   *           1         787     3173152+   b  W95 FAT32
[03:38] <calamari> maybe it's something in cron
[03:38] <calamari> is there a way to get a listing of everything cron will every try to run?
[03:38] <calamari> then I can cut it all out
[03:38] <benkong2> wolf1; ok you should say root(hd1,0) it must be enclosed by the parens
[03:39] <wolf1> benkong2 yes, that is what i did
[03:39] <benkong2> wolf1; also did you do the make active and chainloader commands in the menu.lst?
[03:39] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, wolf1
[03:40] <Hobbsee> calamari: you have tried top?
[03:40] <wolf1> benkong2 yes
[03:40] <calamari> Hobbsee: everyone suggests top, but no one then says what to do with it
[03:40] <wolf1> sorry ubotu
[03:40] <benkong2> k hold on I am googling 4 u
[03:40] <Hobbsee> ah, well that will list the programs that are running on yoru machine
[03:40] <calamari> Hobbsee: it doesn't appear to mention which programs are using disk .. at ;least to my eyes
[03:40] <silasj> hi all
[03:41] <Hobbsee> calamari: maybe the ones using the most cpu power?
[03:41] <silasj> hey guys... which program do you recomend to burn cds?
[03:41] <calamari> Hobbsee: I don't care about cpu.. just disk
[03:41] <calamari> Hobbsee: my hdd is going like crazy when it locks
[03:41] <Hobbsee> calamari: the one using a lot of cpu power is probably the one that is trying to lock your hard drive
[03:41] <Hobbsee> depending on what it is of course, most are necessary
[03:42] <benkong2> wolf1; try here http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/index.html
[03:42] <calamari> I've actually succeeded in runnign top (or the graphical version) when it froze before, and I wasn't at 100% cpu
[03:42] <calamari> so I really need to know which program is using my disk drive
[03:42] <ubotu> calamari: what are you talking about?
[03:43] <wolf1> benkong2 cool will check
[03:43] <nalioth> calamari: you need to run top from a remote machine, so you can see what was active at the time of freezing
[03:43] <Hobbsee> yeah, top wont be, but it will tell you whatever is using a lot of power, and probably hard disk as well
[03:43] <calamari> ubotu: my computer's hddwill randomly go on solid., then my machine will lock shortly thereafter
[03:43] <Dreamglider>  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade didnt do anything so i guess i have RC
[03:43] <nalioth> cafuego: ubotu is goin nuts
[03:44] <calamari> nalioth: well, I have linux on the 486.. maybe I can hook this up somehow :)
[03:44] <nalioth> calamari: that would be the best way i could think of
[03:44] <calamari> nalioth: is linux able to use null modem cables?
[03:44] <nalioth> calamari: although i'm sure logs are generated somewhere
[03:45] <nalioth> calamari: not sure what a null modem cable is
[03:45] <calamari> nalioth: it's a serial cable for connecting two computers by com port
[03:45] <wolf1> benkong2 looks like with win98 i need to map it to hd0 first. will try. thanks
[03:45] <nalioth> calamari: i know nothing about that
[03:45] <calamari> nalioth: ahh, okay
[03:45] <benkong2> wolf1; k
[03:47] <Dreamglider> in terminal how can i see what version of ubuntu i have =
[03:47] <Dreamglider> ==?
[03:47] <nalioth> Dreamglider: type lsb_release -a
[03:48] <nalioth> Dreamglider: or "cat /etc/issue"
[03:48] <ubotu> Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of cafuego_)
[03:48] <kbrooks> ubotu's here!
[03:48] <kbrooks> yay, cafuego_ for bringing ubotu here!
[03:49] <Dreamglider> The Breezy badger Release 5.10 os i'm as uptodate as can be
[03:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: You're hallucinating.
[03:49] <kbrooks> give cafuego_ three cheers!
[03:49] <kbrooks> 1, 2, 3, cheer!
[03:49] <kbrooks> 1, 2, 3, cheer!
[03:49] <kbrooks> 1, 2, 3, cheer!
[03:49] <kbrooks> :P
[03:49] <kbrooks> cafuego_: oh?
[03:49] <nalioth> kbrooks: easy partner
[03:49] <kbrooks> cafuego_: may i ask how?
[03:50] <calamari> I'm afraid to try breezy after how bad hoary has been
[03:50] <thrush> someone forgot to take their riddiln
[03:50] <calamari> maybe I have nothing to lose.. hehe
[03:50] <nalioth> calamari: it might fix your trouble
[03:50] <graig> hello. how do i add new mouse cursor themes?
[03:51] <haasteem> hi, is anybody using jabref for managing bibliographies?
[03:51] <calamari> graig: there is no gui to do it
[03:52] <calamari> graig: at least that I'm aware of
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> graig, gnome-look.org
[03:52] <gnomefreak> art.gnome.org is good too
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> yup yup ... there are sites for ya to make ya gnome really good ... :P
[03:53] <Tuxedo_Kamen> anyone knows how ddclient works?
[03:54] <cafuego_> !test
[03:54] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:55] <logikal> !test
[03:55] <graig> i downloaded a mouse cursor theme from gnomelook,  how do i install it?
[03:55] <StylusEater> well it seems as if when I do a iwconfig my laptop doesn't detect the prism2 based usb "nic" I have even though an lsmod shows it's loaded...
[03:55] <StylusEater> can't find wlan0 at all!
[03:55] <mizery> If there are two different wireless networks with the same SSID, how do I distinguish between the two (mac address of course) to connect to one in particular?
[03:55] <HrdwrBob> channel
[03:55] <Audax> can anyone help me with some live cd support?
[03:56] <nalioth> Audax: if you ask a question
[03:56] <Audax> i ran the ubuntu live cd to test it out about 20 minutes ago. i closed it down and booted back into windows
[03:56] <Audax> however, my display is totally messed up
[03:56] <StylusEater> how can I fix this? wlanctl-ng: no such device ....
[03:56] <Audax> the sides are squished, and i'm not sure how to fix it
[03:57] <graig> audax, its probably your monitor.
[03:57] <StylusEater> Audax: adjust your monitor settings
[03:57] <graig> there might be an auto adjust button on the monitor.
[03:57] <StylusEater> audax: should be a panel on the front of the monitor
[03:57] <Audax> yes
[03:57] <StylusEater> audax: adjust the settings until it's "right"
[03:57] <Audax> okay
[03:57] <Audax> but i also noticed that under my display drivers
[03:57] <StylusEater> audax: namely the horizontal and vertical size adjustments
[03:57] <Audax> there's added resolutions
[03:58] <StylusEater> audax: a live cd wouldn't do that...
[03:58] <StylusEater> audax: can't do that
[03:58] <Audax> really?
[03:58] <Audax> are there any settings or a list of files that are written to my HD
[03:58] <Audax> when a live cd is ran?
[03:58] <StylusEater> audax: NO
[03:58] <Audax> that is really strange
[03:58] <StylusEater> Audax: to RAM yes... Hard Drive...no
[03:58] <StylusEater> Audax: let alone to a windows partition
[03:58] <Audax> is there any way that i can have my display resolutions be reset?
[03:58] <Audax> from my onitor?
[03:58] <Audax> like unplugging it?
[03:59] <StylusEater> Audax: probably not...use the front panel
[03:59] <dducko> Is there a way to display SHockwave in Linux/Ubuntu?
[03:59] <StylusEater> can anyone help me find out why wlan0 can't be found???
[04:00] <bob2> StylusEater: because you didn't laod the driver for it?
[04:00] <nalioth> dducko: no way yeet
[04:00] <StylusEater> bob2: it's loaded...shows in lsmod and dmesg
[04:00] <bimberi> dducko: no
[04:00] <Audax> i tried messing with the positions, but they can't reach far enough
[04:00] <bob2> StylusEater: dmesg shows it found your NIC?
[04:00] <bob2> StylusEater: 'ifconfig -a' shows the device?
[04:00] <StylusEater> bob2: then when I run a wlnctl-ng wlan0 I get a no such device
[04:01] <StylusEater> bob2: dmesg shows it
[04:01] <dducko> thanks
[04:01] <StylusEater> bob2: ifconfig -a doesn't just shows eth0, lo, and sit0
[04:01] <bob2> StylusEater: there you go
[04:01] <StylusEater> bob2: I assume sit0 is firewire
[04:01] <graig> !tell graig about wacom
[04:02] <StylusEater> bob2: so how can I figure out how do get wlanctl-ng and the rest of the system to assocate the alias I set in /etc/modules.conf with the loaded driver?
[04:02] <bob2> StylusEater: no, it's ipv6 tunneling
[04:02] <bob2> StylusEater: the indicates you've picked the wrong driver
[04:02] <Audax> would drivers be conflicting with this?
[04:02] <graig> what can you use ssh for?
[04:02] <bob2> StylusEater: ignore modules.conf entirely until you actually get an interface up
[04:02] <bob2> graig: for everything you can do when sitting in front of a computer
[04:02] <StylusEater> bob2: k...it's an ma111 netgear usb wireless b card
[04:03] <StylusEater> bob2: I figured the prism2_usb is the correct driver?
[04:03] <bob2> StylusEater: b? that sounds ominous.
[04:03] <bob2> StylusEater: maybe netgear were morons and changed the chipset
[04:03] <shad0w1e> question: how do I copy an entire partition ???
[04:04] <Audax> is ther ea way
[04:04] <Audax> to get rid of the display drivers in win 98 and start from scratch?
[04:04] <dylan_> ok guys, ive installed the w32codecs, and the totem-xine package...why cant i play movies in epiphany?
[04:04] <bob2> shad0w1e: I'm pretty sure you got answered in #debian already
[04:04] <noirequus> dylan_: did you install the mplayer-mozilla plugin?
[04:04] <bob2> shad0w1e: dd if=/dev/hdaX of=/whatever
[04:05] <dylan_> noirequus, no, and before i didnt need to
[04:05] <shad0w1e> dd didnt work!!
[04:05] <wolf1> benkong2 grub did work as expected, i had to map win98 first to hb0. thanks for your help
[04:05] <shad0w1e> I ended up with a bunch of directories that I couldnt change into
[04:05] <benkong2> wolf1; np glad it worked for u
[04:06] <wolf1> benkong2 cheers
[04:06] <bob2> shad0w1e: what on earth are you talking about?
[04:06] <bob2> shad0w1e: do you know what dd does?
[04:06] <StylusEater> bob2: no more ideas?
[04:06] <graig> i don't like the new clearlooks.
[04:06] <dylan_> noirequus, any ideas?
[04:06] <bob2> StylusEater: aside from using google to find out what chipset it is
[04:06] <StylusEater> bob2: already looking
[04:06] <kate> where i can find java for kubuntu?\
[04:06] <kate> where i can find java for kubuntu?\
[04:06] <graig> i dont like how it mixes square and round edges.
[04:07] <_jason> !tell kate about java
[04:07] <noirequus> ubotu: tell kate about javadeb
[04:07] <_jason> noirequus:  i updated it remember?
[04:07] <noirequus> ubotu: tell _jason about javadeb
[04:08] <apocxp> have you looked at the following? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28fonts%29#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087
[04:08] <noirequus> _jason: no i dont remember, but i do now
[04:08] <dylan_> noirequus, should i have installed the mplayer-mozilla plugin?  i want to use totem-xine...
[04:08] <StylusEater> bob2: nothing
[04:08] <noirequus> dylan_: totem wont display in a browser
[04:09] <dylan_> noirequus, totem-xine will
[04:09] <elad`> What do I need to apt-get to be able to use javac?
[04:09] <noirequus> dylan_: then you know more about it then I
[04:09] <elad`> The compiler.
[04:09] <dylan_> noirequus, should i have installed some other gstreamer plugins?
[04:09] <bob2> elad`: be more specific
[04:10] <bob2> elad`: e.g. are you using breezy? do you want sun's JDK?
[04:10] <elad`> Using 5.04.
[04:10] <elad`> SDK, no?
[04:10] <bob2> I forget what sun call it
[04:10] <dylan_> can somebody help me with my totem-xine issue please?  i cannot play quicktime files
[04:10] <dylan_> in a browser
[04:10] <bob2> dylan_: does it work outside the browser?
[04:11] <bob2> elad`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:11] <dylan_> bob2, i can play quicktime files outside yes
[04:11] <elad`> I'm currently downloading jdk-1_5_0_05-nb-4_1-solsparc-ml.bin, but 120MB seems too much for what I need.
[04:11] <logical_mark> Hey guys what is the bonjour package
[04:11] <dylan_> bob2, i have installed w32codecs, totem-xine and it still doesnt wkr
[04:11] <dylan_> work
[04:11] <bob2> elad`: It seems somewhat unlikely that you really want the solaris sparc version
[04:12] <elad`> 5.04 - Hoary?
[04:12] <Audax> btw guys i fixed it
[04:12] <elad`> I copied the wrong line. No worries, I'm downloading the right package.
[04:13] <Audax> ubuntu locked my refresh rate at 60 hz
[04:13] <elad`> jdk-1_5_0_05-nb-4_1-linux-ml.bin
[04:13] <bob2> Audax: no it didn't
[04:13] <Audax> i used powerstrip in windows to change it back to 100
[04:13] <emes> is there a channel for ppc specific support, #ubuntu-ppc in empty
[04:13] <bob2> Audax: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:13] <dazzlindan> whats the best way to run resize2fs to let linux allocate the new free space from a resize of the partition table?  from a bootdisk?  resize2fs can only be ran on an unmounted filesystem.
[04:13] <bob2> emes: here
[04:13] <bob2> dazzlindan: if it's not the root partition, you can do it fro myour regular system
[04:13] <sambagirl> anyone using gnome meeting this minutes?
[04:13] <bob2> dazzlindan: if it is, getting the live cd is probably the simplest solution
[04:13] <sambagirl> hi bob2
[04:14] <dazzlindan> bob2, can i do it from a floppy disk?
[04:14] <bob2> dazzlindan: yes, but not simply
[04:14] <dylan_> bob2, will you help me please?
[04:14] <bob2> sambagirl: hi
[04:14] <dylan_> not to be annoying
[04:14] <bob2> dylan_: I don't use xine or epiphany
[04:14] <dazzlindan> bob2, why not simply?
[04:14] <bob2> dylan_: and I don't use mozillaa plugins to watch videos, either
[04:15] <bob2> dazzlindan: do you know how to construct a linux boot disk containing parted?
[04:15] <esac_> i plugged in a usb gamepad (think playstation controller). dmesg shows it as recognized, but nothing that ive tried seems to be able to use it. is there something i use to configure it, or something i can use to test it ?
[04:15] <dazzlindan> bob2, no. do you know where a tutorial is?
[04:15] <r0d> howdy bob2. did you take the plunge to breezy yet?
[04:15] <bob2> r0d: a few weeks ago
[04:15] <esac_> r0d : now thats a silly question :)
[04:16] <moparfan90> what are some other distros that use apt?
[04:16] <r0d> whys that
[04:16] <bob2> dazzlindan: no, I'd really just go with a live cd of some sort
[04:16] <r0d> cool bob2
[04:16] <bob2> dazzlindan: or even use the ubuntu installer itself
[04:16] <bob2> moparfan90: debian originated it of course, mandrake and fedora used connectiva's port for a while
[04:16] <dazzlindan> bob2, thats what i was going to do, but i don't have the disk with me
[04:17] <bob2> moparfan90: (port of apt-get to rpm, that is)
[04:17] <pioneer> ok i compiled mplayer and mplayer plugin from source as the packages in the repo dont work, ive tried  cp the .so and .xpt to my home .mozilla directory as well as  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and still no go
[04:17] <bob2> and all debian derivatives use it afaik
[04:17] <dazzlindan> bob2, i don't know if i made this clear... the partition is already resized.  i just need to run resize2fs on it to let linux reallocate it
[04:17] <moparfan90> bob2, oo well i'm looking for a distro that is similar to ubuntu and very good with the 64 bit stuff
[04:18] <TokenBad> whats command for apt-get for force install?
[04:18] <r0d> moparfan90,  i know a good distro. its not like ubuntu. gentoo has been really good for my 64-bit server
[04:19] <moparfan90> r0d, yes i heard that but that doesnt use apt, and thats what i like .. its very easy
[04:20] <r0d> moparfan90,  emerge is just like apt
[04:20] <jcarr> I accidentally xkill'd my kde desktop.. it went black and the icons disappeared
[04:20] <jcarr> how can I GET IT BACK!?>
[04:20] <r0d> moparfan90,  and in my opinion has acouple more features
[04:20] <moparfan90> oo
[04:20] <moparfan90> maybe ill try gentoo then
[04:20] <bob2> moparfan90: by "64-bit" you mean "amd64"?
[04:20] <bob2> tok	wat are you trying to do?
[04:20] <bob2> TokenBad: what are you trying to do?
[04:20] <bob2> jcarr: ctrl-alt-backspace, log back in again
[04:20] <TokenBad> reinstall electricsheep
[04:21] <moparfan90> bob2, yes
[04:21] <bob2> TokenBad: why would you want to force anything then?
[04:21] <TokenBad> cause its giving errors
[04:21] <dylan_> TokenBad, can you help me with my embedded video on web page issue?
[04:21] <bob2> TokenBad: so, show us the errors in #flood
[04:21] <TokenBad> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml', which is also in package xscreensaver
[04:21] <bob2> right
[04:21] <TokenBad> thats the only error
[04:22] <bob2> TokenBad: in future, asking questions like "whats command for apt-get for force install?" when you have a specific apt error is a really bad idea
[04:22] <mfuentes> Any body uses Banshee Music Player?
[04:22] <TokenBad> ok
[04:22] <bob2> you should say "when I'm trying to reinstall the electricsheep package, I get $this error."
[04:22] <jcarr> bob2, I dont want to log back in
[04:22] <jcarr> I have things going on!
[04:22] <TokenBad> well with that error....I can't think of any other way to fix it
[04:22] <jcarr> I have a large java project compiling in a gnome term
[04:22] <bob2> TokenBad: do you know what that error means?
[04:23] <TokenBad> so if you have an idea would love to here it
[04:23] <TokenBad> no
[04:23] <bob2> jcarr: then #kde, good luck
[04:23] <TokenBad> heheh
[04:23] <bob2> TokenBad: read it again
[04:23] <TokenBad> its saying the file is there
[04:23] <TokenBad> but it isn't
[04:23] <kate> how to fresh install ubuntu?
[04:23] <StarKruzr> Hi again, guys.  I'm trying to do some kernel dev.  What version, specifically, of kernel am I on with Breezy right now?  uname -a says 2.6.12-9-386, which I can't find.  I can find lots of revisions of 2.6.12, but no #9.  Help?
[04:23] <bob2> TokenBad: it's not? what happened to it?
[04:23] <toran> hey, is the new version of the gimp out for ubuntu yet?
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> Isn't there an application for Windows that will allow access to Linux partitions?
[04:23] <toran> (GIMP 2.4)
[04:23] <bob2> StarKruzr: "can't find" = ?
[04:24] <StarKruzr> bob2: I'm looking for the source on kernel.org/.
[04:24] <bob2> toran: you mean the version of the gimp that doesn't exist yet?
[04:24] <bob2> toran: no, it's not in ubuntu yet
[04:24] <bob2> StarKruzr: what are you trying to do?
[04:24] <StarKruzr> bob2: port a scheduler from 2.4 to 2.6.
[04:24] <toran> lol
[04:24] <jcarr> bob2, you just run kdesktop to get it back
[04:24] <apokryphos> what's up with the bot?
[04:24] <toran> bob2: I saw something in slashdot about it ><
[04:24] <bob2> jcarr: great
[04:25] <StarKruzr> apokryphos, it's been having issues at least all night.
[04:25] <bob2> toran: about the fact that it's going to come out at some point, along with some screenshots of the development version?
[04:25] <r0d> toran, are you talkinga bout that plugin that makes gimp look similar to photoshop?
[04:25] <bob2> StarKruzr: get 2.6.14 from kernel.org then
[04:25] <TokenBad> don't know bob2
[04:25] <toran> r0d:  no
[04:25] <dazzlindan> how do you mount a floppy disk?
[04:25] <toran> bob2: pretty much, yeah
[04:25] <bob2> StarKruzr: or whatever the latest 2.6 kernel is
[04:25] <bob2> TokenBad: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xscreensaver
[04:26] <TokenBad> nevermind it is there
[04:26] <TokenBad> missed it last time
[04:26] <apokryphos> StarKruzr: ok, thanks
[04:26] <TokenBad> so how do I get electricsheep installed
[04:26] <bob2> TokenBad: you don't
[04:26] <TokenBad> ?
[04:26] <elad`> bob2: It gets the bug the wiki mentions when I try fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "Elad Alon" --email "elad.alon@gmail.com" jdk-1_5_0_05-nb-4_1-linux-ml.bin, but the wiki's solution doesn't work.
[04:26] <bob2> TokenBad: xscreensaver appears to include it
[04:27] <StarKruzr> bob2: let me explain exactly what's going on here.  I'm a grad student who was thrown into this project and has very little clue what he's doing.  here are my concerns: If I upgrade to 2.6.14, say, what will happen when Ubuntu does its kernel upgrade voodoo through the automatic updater in synaptic?  and how do I ensure that the modules and other important configuration stuff that I have configured in my current kernel wil
[04:27] <StarKruzr> l be reflected in the new one?
[04:27] <TokenBad> it don't show it in the screensaver selections
[04:27] <dazzlindan> how do i mount a floppy disk?  i tried mount /media/floppy but it says i need to specify the filesystem.  i used "man" to find out it was the -t option, but what filesystem should it be?
[04:27] <mizery> Is there a karaoke (lyrics) solution to compliment mp3 encoded songs?
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> StarKruzr, then you get the kernel that ubuntu is using ...
[04:27] <calamari> this program is great: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[04:28] <StarKruzr> wickedpuppy: Yes, that's my point.  I cannot find it on kernel.org.
[04:28] <bob2> TokenBad: dpkg -L xscreensaver | grep -i electric
[04:28] <The_Vox> dazzlindan: mount -t auto /dev/floppy
[04:28] <WinZ> dazzlindan, mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[04:28] <calamari> with this I can turn on/off services, see whats running, etc
[04:28] <dazzlindan> thank you
[04:28] <The_Vox> dazzlindan: or try -t vfat
[04:28] <IceDC571> which wireless cards work out of the box with ubuntu?
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> StarKruzr, you expect kernel.org to have the kernel that ubuntu uses ?
[04:28] <StarKruzr> uname -a says it's version 2.6.12-9.
[04:28] <bob2> StarKruzr: kernel developers don't use distro kernels
[04:28] <StarKruzr> ok, that helps.  Where do I get the distro kernel?
[04:28] <TokenBad>  /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml
[04:28] <r0d> StarKruzr,  you have to backup the modules that you create on your own. thats what i have to do with my patched wireless .ko's
[04:28] <bob2> StarKruzr: distro kernel = the one your distro includes by default
[04:29] <bob2> StarKruzr: first step will be to build your own kernel from kernel.org source.  if you can't do that, you'll need to get someone on your team to show you how.
[04:29] <StarKruzr> do I already have the source and not know it?
[04:29] <bob2> StarKruzr: then add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst as a new entry and make sure it boots
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> bob2, i think he means the source of the kernel that is in breezy ..
[04:29] <StarKruzr> what wickedpuppy said.
[04:30] <bob2> wickedpuppy: hacking against 2.6.12 is going to be trouble
[04:30] <bob2> since it's already out of date
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> ah i know .. well he wants trouble :P
[04:30] <bob2> this really really sounds like you need direction from your group leader
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:30] <bob2> or whatever
[04:30] <StarKruzr> I have to replace the scheduler.
[04:30] <TokenBad> bob2,  /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml
[04:30] <TokenBad> but I still don't see it listed in screensavers
[04:30] <StarKruzr> I just need a kernel that I can patch against that I know will boot on my machine.
[04:31] <calamari> StarKruzr: if all you want are ubuntu kernel sources, fire up synaptic.. it has everything in there
[04:31] <gnomefreak> is there a screensaver download page thats safe?
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> StarKruzr, then get 2.6.11 ... its in synaptic
[04:31] <StarKruzr> I already have the patch file, but it's for 2.4.19.
[04:31] <StarKruzr> (Hence the porting task)
[04:31] <bob2> StarKruzr: dude, if you can't compile your own kernel, you're going to be fucked if you're going to be re-writing the most complicated part of it
[04:31] <kate> hot to mount my drive so that i can see my ubuntu in windows xp?
[04:31] <StarKruzr> I'm patching, not re-writing.
[04:31] <StarKruzr> (Trust me, I am well aware of the depth of the shit that I am standing in)
[04:31] <r0d> StarKruzr, its called kernel-source in synaptic. and also download the headers
[04:31] <bob2> StarKruzr: you know 2.4 has an entirely different scheduler to 2.6, right?
[04:32] <bob2> StarKruzr: you haven't been told what kernel version you have to port it to?
[04:32] <StarKruzr> Completely.  One of the big deals about 2.6 was its new O(n) scheduler.
[04:32] <StarKruzr> bob: "2.6."
[04:32] <bob2> you mean O(1)?
[04:32] <StarKruzr> o_O
[04:33] <bob2> O(n) isn't very impresive ;p
[04:33] <StarKruzr> Constant time?
[04:33] <bob2> oh, dude
[04:33] <elad`> bash: javac: command not found - Why's that?
[04:33] <bob2> elad`: because you don't have the JDK installed
[04:33] <calamari> elad`: do you have java installed?
[04:33] <elad`> I've just finished installing it.
[04:33] <bob2> elad`: well, its installed incorrectly
[04:34] <bob2> perhaps you didn't update your $PATH
[04:34] <elad`> How do I update that?
[04:34] <esac_> anybody know how to get a gamepad working ?
[04:34] <IceDC571> how do i get wpa2 to work on linux?
[04:34] <calamari> elad`: do you want it for all system users, or just you?
[04:35] <StarKruzr> bob: Let's suppose I wanted to do work with a 2.4.19 kernel instead.  Is there some way I can get a basic 2.4 environment running on my Ubuntu machine that I can boot into when I need to do dev on it?
[04:35] <esac_> IceDC571: modify /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, modify /etc/default/wpasupplicant as necessary
[04:35] <elad`> I'm the only system user.
[04:35] <pioneer> which directories do the mplayer plugin.so and .xpt go in? ive tried em all and no worky worky
[04:35] <pioneer> for firefox
[04:35] <bob2> StarKruzr: then you get 2.4.19 from kernel.org (that kernel is ridiculously old and riddled with local root exploits, btw), unpack it and configure it
[04:35] <calamari> elad`: hmm.. well, might as well use /etc/profile anyways
[04:35] <bob2> StarKruzr: you will need to configure it manually, or get someone else to do it for you
[04:36] <StarKruzr> Actually, I got it to build, and even boot.
[04:36] <bob2> great
[04:36] <StarKruzr> However, the problem appears to be that it has no environment to live in.
[04:36] <StarKruzr> Lemme tell you what it says.
[04:36] <elad`> calamari: Tell me more about that please. I've located the javac executable, by the way.
[04:36] <elad`> It's in ~/jdk..../bin
[04:36] <calamari> elad`: ahh, okay
[04:37] <calamari> elad`: are you at a console prompt
[04:37] <elad`> Aha.
[04:37] <calamari> elad`: if so, type: gedit ~/.bashrc
[04:38] <StarKruzr> bob: Last line is "Please append a correct "root=" boot option / Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03
[04:38] <StarKruzr> enquote.
[04:38] <StarKruzr> d^
[04:38] <bob2> StarKruzr: that means you misconfigured the kernel or your boot loader
[04:39] <StarKruzr> it's the boot loader, I think.
[04:39] <StarKruzr> here is what I told it to do
[04:39] <elad`> calamari: What do I add in there?
[04:39] <StarKruzr> (there is no reason it shouldn't be able to grok ext3, is there?)
[04:39] <bob2> er?
[04:39] <bob2> of course there is; if you didn't configure ext3 into the kernel
[04:40] <StarKruzr> isn't it there by default?
[04:40] <bob2> no
[04:40] <StarKruzr> ...
[04:40] <bob2> the default configuration is of no use
[04:40] <StarKruzr> the light dawns.
[04:40] <bob2> 12:35:48           bob2 | StarKruzr: you will need to configure it manually, or get someone else to do it for you
[04:40] <bob2> I don't even think the default config boots on linus's computer anymore
[04:40] <StarKruzr> hah
[04:41] <cevizoglu> bob2: why, because he's using a G5?
[04:41] <The_Vox> bob2: no, it doesn't...he's on a mac now :)
[04:41] <cevizoglu> ha
[04:41] <bob2> zing!
[04:41] <The_Vox> he uses linux, of course, but on a mac :)
[04:41] <StarKruzr> is he really?
[04:41] <StarKruzr> that seems like a waste of cash
[04:41] <StarKruzr> why use a G5 if you're not going to run OSX
[04:41] <cevizoglu> I just quit my powerbook for a thinkpad this week..  hehe
[04:41] <bob2> StarKruzr: because they're fast and well-designed?
[04:42] <cevizoglu> bob2: and make great helicopter noises when they get hot  :)
[04:42] <esac_> i have a usb hid gamepad. dmesg shows it detected correctly. jstest /dev/js0 picks it up just fine. but tuxracer and ePSXe doesn't seem to use it. any ideas ?
[04:42] <StarKruzr> I dunno.  No point in getting into an arch war but it still seems a mite silly to me
[04:42] <cevizoglu> bob2: I use a G5 at work
[04:43] <The_Vox> StarKruzr: what he said was that the G5 arch is less idiotic than the x86 arch
[04:43] <njan> what?! the latest ipw2200 supports rfmon.. the latest kismet talks to ipw2200.. and breezy has both. And it works really well. Life is too perfect, something bad's about to happen
[04:43] <StarKruzr> well, I suppose I can't argue with that.
[04:43] <bob2> hah
[04:44] <StarKruzr> njan: EMP over ubuntu.org's servers
[04:44] <njan> StarKruzr, that's fine, I just apt-get upgraded
[04:44] <njan> StarKruzr, :P
[04:44] <bytefoo> tilda owns :/
[04:44] <StarKruzr> see?  it's starting already
[04:44] <bob2> an EMP on ubuntu's servers would probably get you killed by mi-6
[04:45] <njan> bob2, yeah, they probably all use ubuntu. :P
[04:45] <cevizoglu> bob2: my powerbook was excellent for supporting linux, but I wanted flash, eclipse, wine, and a few other apps to work
[04:45] <cevizoglu> bob2, or should I say, linux was excellent for supporting my powerbook
[04:46] <bob2> eclipse doesn't work with IBM's ppc java?
[04:46] <cevizoglu> bob2, oh, and I wanted a 2ghz processor also
[04:46] <bob2> my bigger complaint with my ibook was lack of wireless
[04:46] <cevizoglu> bob2, I got wireless working ok, but I sure couldn't figure out getting eclipse to work
[04:46] <StarKruzr> how is tablet support in Linux in general these days?  hardware and application.
[04:47] <cevizoglu> bob2, I couldn't even find an eclipse package
[04:47] <StarKruzr> probe hardware, configure kernel appropriately
[04:48] <StarKruzr> ask some questions that it can't probe.
[04:48] <bob2> StarKruzr: because it's silly
[04:48] <bytefoo> because what does "appropriately" mean?
[04:48] <bytefoo> maybe its not appropriate for me :|
[04:48] <bob2> StarKruzr: the only people who need to compile kernels these days are kernel developers
[04:48] <StarKruzr> I suppose.
[04:48] <bob2> and configuring a kernel is simple compared to hacking it's code
[04:49] <cevizoglu> bob2, at least on ubuntu  ;)
[04:49] <bob2> that said, someone actually wrote a program to do that
[04:49] <StarKruzr> bytefoo: appropriately as in "compile support into the kernel for the hardware the script detects"
[04:49] <keithcu> Hey all. Here is my list of Ubuntu bugs: http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?page_id=15
[04:49] <StarKruzr> bob: oh?  What's it called?
[04:49] <j-linux> I'm having an error with synaptic.  I pasted the error message here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2958
[04:49] <j-linux> It's ldp-docbook-xsl
[04:49] <bob2> StarKruzr: no idea, it was mentioned on LKML last week
[04:49] <j-linux> Any ideas?
[04:49] <bytefoo> HWD for archlinux does that
[04:50] <StarKruzr> hm
[04:50] <TokenBad> how do you install and build dep at same time?
[04:50] <TylerDurden> is there an op here?
[04:50] <bob2> keithcu: bugs won't be fixed unless you file them in the BTS
[04:50] <pioneer> ok so i got mplayer and mplayer plugin working pretty much but now it just buffers 100% of the file and never plays it????
[04:50] <bob2> TylerDurden: ?
[04:50] <TylerDurden> r u an op bob2?
[04:50] <synackuator> is anyone pro at getting prism2 cards to work?
[04:50] <dazzlindan> why do i get "you must specify a filesystem" when i do: mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ??
[04:50] <bob2> TokenBad: sudo apt-get build-dep blah ; apt-get source -b blah
[04:50] <bob2> TylerDurden: what do you want?
[04:50] <StarKruzr> he's not an op unless you stop talking like that :p
[04:50] <TylerDurden> i need an op
[04:50] <cevizoglu> j-linux, looks like a very useless error telling you the process quit or crashed during the pre-installation script
[04:51] <bob2> dazzlindan: because you didn't tell it what filesystem it is
[04:51] <bob2> TylerDurden: what?
[04:51] <TokenBad> hmm
[04:51] <bob2> dazzlindan: -t vfat, probably
[04:51] <TylerDurden> r u an op? yes or no
[04:51] <bob2> TylerDurden: holy god, ask your question already
[04:51] <TylerDurden> wow forget it
[04:51] <TylerDurden> i dont have a question about linux, i have a question about the server
[04:51] <j-linux> cevizoglu: any idea how I can get that installed?  I'm not even sure what it does -- I think it is required for another thing I installed to view docbook format in HTML or something...
[04:51] <nixuser> is the new ubuntu really called greezy faggot?
[04:51] <bob2> so ask it
[04:51] <dazzlindan> bob2, mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[04:51] <bob2> jeez
[04:51] <bob2> nixuser: no, don't be stupid
[04:51] <j-linux> :S
[04:51] <TylerDurden> thats why i need an admin to delete the user TylerDurden because it says its taken and i forgot my identify password
[04:52] <nixuser> from what i hear it should be
[04:52] <bob2> TylerDurden: that has nothing to do with IRC ops
[04:52] <synackuator> don't go breezy!! it has issues still
[04:52] <StarKruzr> Tyler, why would he have answered what you said if he wasn't an op?
[04:52] <bob2> TylerDurden: #freenode, you need a staff member
[04:52] <TylerDurden> bob2 can you remove my nickname from the server so i can rerigster?
[04:53] <bytefoo> :|
[04:53] <TylerDurden> reregister*
[04:53] <Cluster_Man> omg
[04:53] <UdontKnow> (1128912808 23:53) [freenode]  -*NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The nickname [tylerdurden]  has been dropped
[04:53] <UdontKnow> TylerDurden: please register
[04:53] <TylerDurden> thank you
[04:53] <UdontKnow> bob2: thanks for hilighting
[04:53] <StarKruzr> ANYWAY.  Bob, thanks for the kernel config help.  I'm going to give this a shot again when I get home.
[04:53] <dazzlindan> bob2, mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[04:54] <bob2> UdontKnow: hah
[04:54] <bob2> dazzlindan: that means it thinks you don't have a floppy drive
[04:54] <bob2> dazzlindan: perhaps the correct driver is't loaded
[04:54] <lightstar> heya every1...
[04:54] <TylerDurden> bob2 how can i make my irc client to launch a command everytime i open it? i want it to identify me automatically
[04:55] <dazzlindan> bob2, well i had just used it and thats what i don't understand
[04:55] <lightstar> anyone got a good ubuntu mirror site for upgrade in asia region?
[04:55] <j-linux> What is a ".deb" file?
[04:55] <DonL> Well, I screwed it up again. Second time I tried to update from Hoary to Breezy, and second time I lost X, and can't figure out how to get it back
[04:56] <bob2> TylerDurden: depends on your irc client
[04:56] <bob2> lightstar: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:56] <bob2> j-linux: a Debian or Ubuntu package
[04:56] <TylerDurden> donl, go to recovery mode and type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:56] <j-linux> There are .deb files in my /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory
[04:56] <TylerDurden> bob2 i have x-chat
[04:56] <bob2> j-linux: that's fine
[04:56] <bob2> TylerDurden: no idea
[04:56] <TylerDurden> ok
[04:56] <j-linux> bob2: if ony of my deb files is having an error, is there a way to fix it?
[04:56] <lightstar> bob2: thx
[04:56] <DonL> TylerDurden, thanks, but I've done that a few times now
[04:56] <TylerDurden> which card do u have donl?
[04:57] <hajiki> what bot does obotu run on?
[04:57] <bob2> j-linux: this is where you show us the error in #flood
[04:57] <bob2> hajiki: blootbot.sf.net
[04:57] <hajiki> bob2, ty
[04:57] <DonL> TylerDurden, I have an Nvidia MX
[04:57] <j-linux> bob2: I pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2958
[04:57] <DonL> MX440
[04:57] <j-linux> What is #flood?
[04:58] <moparfan90> if i use ubuntu 64-bit can i installeverything that unsupported in 32 form?
[04:58] <TylerDurden> donl, what you want to do is go to vesa mode through the dpkg command, then launch ubuntu normally, and go to synpatic, and search for nvidia, then mark nvidia-glx and nvidia-control or something close, dpkg again, and select nvidia and it should work
[04:58] <pietro_spina> TylerDurden:  in x-ccat menu select server list and put your password in there...
[04:58] <DonL> TylerDurden, quite frankly, now that you mention it, I didn't do the dpkg-reconfigure in recovery mode
[04:59] <TylerDurden> donl you should try that, im sure it would work after you installed the drivers
[04:59] <TylerDurden> pietro_spina where is server list?
[04:59] <TylerDurden> pietro_spina nvm i found it ty
[04:59] <pietro_spina> TylerDurden:  ctrl-s
[05:00] <moparfan90> bob2, do you know?
[05:00] <moparfan90> is bob2 or seveas here?
[05:01] <tritium> moparfan90: you can setup a 32 bit chroot
[05:01] <moparfan90> whats chroot mean/do?
[05:01] <logical_mark> Hey guys on my laptop running ubuntu I can hover my mouse of a music file and it will start playing, what enables that so I can make it happen on my desktop
[05:01] <DonL> TylerDurden, thanks muchly. I'm off to try!
[05:03] <synackuator> i dunno but sometimes my box plays mp3 by itself in the background running as process mpg123 or something...
[05:04] <evian> hi. I switched my driver to nvidia-glx-legacy and installed the kernel module but I still get a black screen and a machine lockup with it. Maybe I should buy a new graphics card and use the newer drivers?
[05:05] <evian> I'm kinda depressed
[05:05] <seife> Is there any way to install a HP ScanJet 3200c?
[05:05] <synackuator> evian: lol what video are you running
[05:06] <evian> its a ti4200
[05:06] <synackuator> err did you check nvidia's site to see if it's supported w/ that driver
[05:06] <evian> yeah it is
[05:06] <evian> or it says it is
[05:07] <evian> it isn't THAT old
[05:07] <tritium> evian: which nvidia card do you have?
[05:07] <unperson> Anyone know if I change a setting in firefox in about:config, how do I make it persist to the next session?
[05:07] <bytefoo> theres an extension that does that
[05:07] <cafuego_> unperson: That happens automagically
[05:07] <seife> Can anyone tell me whats the new thing on Breezy?
[05:08] <synackuator> i had an fx5200 and i could not get rendering to work period - went to a 6600 gt and used the howto in the ubuntuguide and it worked great
[05:08] <bytefoo> oh nm
[05:08] <evian> its an MSI geforce4 mx I think otherwise known as a 4200ti
[05:08] <tritium> seife: gnome 2.12
[05:08] <logical_mark> Hey guys on my laptop running ubuntu I can hover my mouse of a music file and it will start playing, what enables that so I can make it happen on my desktop
[05:08] <synackuator> it could be an mx420 / 440 ?
[05:08] <seife> tritium, whats new in gnome 2.12?
[05:08] <tritium> seife: check the gnome website
[05:08] <evian> yeah its an mx440
[05:09] <dariuss> uh oh, major bug in Ubuntu RC.  System / About Ubuntu  -  Could Not Load Document
[05:09] <synackuator> mx440 != 4200ti but it should still work if nvidia says so
[05:09] <logical_mark> Hey guys on my laptop running ubuntu I can hover my mouse of a music file and it will start playing, what enables that so I can make it happen on my desktop
[05:09] <synackuator> logical_mark: stop
[05:09] <evian> synackuator, oh ok... um let me check the box here...
[05:10] <logical_mark> synackuator, I did not mean to send that two times in a row
[05:10] <unperson> cafuego:  Does it?  I seem to have just has one revert after restarting the browser.  Well, I'll have to try it again and see what happens.
[05:10] <kevogod> dariuss, I get the same thing! Critical Mass.
[05:10] <Cluster_Man> are the repositories down i have a fresh install of breezy keep getting: "Couldn't stat source package list http://"
[05:10] <Cluster_Man> apt-get update dose nadda
[05:10] <Hobbsee> !tell Cluster_Man about repositories
[05:10] <dylan_> how do i play embedded movies using totem-xine?
[05:11] <evian> tritium, synackuator, ok its a G4Ti4200-DT64
[05:11] <logical_mark> synackuator, I dont suppose you know the answer do you?
[05:11] <Cluster_Man> :-) just asking.
[05:11] <evian> not an mx anything sorry
[05:12] <synackuator> evian: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
[05:12] <evian> snackuator, how much did you get your 6600 gt for?
[05:12] <scribbles> !ati
[05:12] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:12] <Cluster_Man> thats not my question or the answer what are you talking about i dont need to add a repo.
[05:12] <erick> Good Morning
[05:13] <synackuator> evian: your card is in that list i believe regardless the main nvidia-glx driver should work
[05:13] <synackuator> evian: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[05:13] <dylan_> can somebody help me please?
[05:13] <synackuator> evian: i got my MSI 6600gt 128mb agp for about $165 on newegg about 2 months ago i believe
[05:14] <evian> synackuator, hmm I tried the main one before but that did the same thing, someone earlier suggested I have a geforce2 chipset which needs the legacy driver; they said nvidia broke the support for older cards like mine in the newer unified drivers
[05:14] <Cluster_Man> are the servers down i cannot connect: apt-get update fails. any apt commands that involve talking to the repositories fails.
[05:14] <Cluster_Man> ?
[05:14] <synackuator> logical_mark: all i know is that mpg123 might do the trick as I believe it is designed for running in the background / as a daemon.  you might try googling that - or check the forums
[05:15] <erick> Guys need help, Im installing gyach to my ubuntu machine and issue this cmd ./configure and after this I get this error "checking for  C compiler default output.... configure: error C compiler cannot create executables" guys how can I resolve this error
[05:15] <dylan_> i cannot play videos using totem-xine in epiphany....please help!!!
[05:15] <logical_mark> synackuator, thanks
[05:15] <bob2> erick: install build-essential
[05:15] <bob2> dylan_: please stop it
[05:15] <TylerDurden> i download unrar but how do i use it now?
[05:15] <synackuator> evian: hmm bummer - have you searched ubuntuforums?
[05:15] <dylan_> bob2, sorry i need it for a presentation in 2 mins
[05:15] <bob2> dylan_: if someone knew, they would answer you, being annoying is not going to make someone magically remember
[05:15] <erick> bobs, what cmmd I will use apt-get install build-essential?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> Cluster_Man: the repos, at least for breezy seem fine, you have the correct repos?
[05:15] <dylan_> bob2, im sorry...my apoligies
[05:16] <bob2> erick: yes...
[05:16] <erick> bob2 thanks
[05:16] <bob2> dylan_: does firefox with mozilla-mplayer work?
[05:16] <synackuator> evian: there's also the nvidia forums - might be able to find something here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14
[05:16] <dylan_> bob2, i dont like mplayer
[05:16] <dylan_> bob2, theres no sound
[05:16] <bob2> dylan_: that's great
[05:16] <bob2> dylan_: pkill esd
[05:16] <bob2> dylan_: does it work?
[05:16] <dylan_> bob2, no
[05:17] <Cluster_Man> yes this is fresh install i have done the updates and can no longer hit the repos. i have made no changes. i have used linux for years debian and ubuntu.
[05:17] <bob2> dylan_: define doesn't work?
[05:17] <evian> synackuator, I looked on ubuntuforums, but not on the nvidia forums, so thats a good idea thanks
[05:17] <dylan_> bob2, totem-xine worked in the past
[05:17] <bob2> Cluster_Man: so you surewly know how to debug network issues?
[05:17] <Cluster_Man> yes its just odd and the only time i have ever had a prob with ubuntu is when the servers are down.
[05:18] <Hobbsee> Cluster_Man: breezy or hoary?
[05:18] <bob2> Cluster_Man: archive.ubuntu.com is fine here
[05:18] <synackuator> i just checked - breezy and hoary boxes apt-get update just fine
[05:18] <erick> Cluster_man: I don't thinkd there is a problem with the server cause minutes ago I finished my updates
[05:19] <Cluster_Man> my network is fine, all other web related services works great.
[05:19] <bob2> Cluster_Man: well, archive.ubuntu.com is fine
[05:19] <Hobbsee> just checked it, all the reps for breezy seem to be fine
[05:19] <erick> Cluster_Man can you ping the rep site
[05:19] <dylan_> bob2, where can i get the w32codecs in a deb?
[05:20] <Cluster_Man> ok ok, but the only thing NOT working for me is syncing up with the repos.
[05:20] <bob2> Cluster_Man: ok, but it is fine
[05:20] <Cluster_Man> brb i got a hunch now. :-)
[05:20] <scribbles> how od I get my kernel version
[05:20] <scribbles> so I can get ATI drivers working
[05:21] <tritium> scribbles: uname -r
[05:21] <scribbles> thx
[05:21] <bob2> dylan_: lots of places, including debian.video.free.fr/
[05:23] <GTroy> what's the easiest/best mp3 player?
[05:23] <bob2> none
[05:23] <bob2> I like cplay, tho
[05:23] <heartEye> I have a printer and I am going to make a letter for someone in the army.  Can I just connect my printer to my computer and hope for the best?
[05:23] <TylerDurden> i downloaded unrar but how do i use it now?
[05:23] <bob2> TylerDurden: by "download" you mean "installed with synaptic", right?
[05:23] <TylerDurden> i want to unrar a file but it still says its unsupported
[05:23] <TylerDurden> yes bob2
[05:23] <dazzlindan> what is the line to add to menu.1st to make it boot from floppy?
[05:24] <bob2> TylerDurden: unrar x foo.rar
[05:24] <cafuego_> TylerDurden: unrar-nonfree
[05:24] <macgeek> (ot) how do i change the color of text in the middle of a sentence in irc?
[05:24] <TylerDurden> thats the one cafuego_
[05:24] <TylerDurden> bob2 is there a gui?
[05:24] <cafuego_> macgeek: this channel doesn't allow for colour codes.
[05:24] <macgeek> well if it did, how would i do it?
[05:24] <TylerDurden> bob2 it says command not found
[05:24] <cafuego_> macgeek: And neither should you.
[05:25] <calamari> does delivery of local mail depend on the postfix service?
[05:25] <bob2> TylerDurden: then you didn't install unrar
[05:25] <AaronT> Hello everyone
[05:25] <TylerDurden> let me check
[05:25] <macgeek> cafeugo_: why not?
[05:25] <bob2> calamari: it depends on some mta, yes
[05:25] <calamari> bob2: thanks
[05:25] <cafuego_> macgeek: Nonstandard spam.
[05:25] <ordbal> HELLO
[05:25] <TylerDurden> yes i did bob2
[05:25] <TylerDurden> according to synaptic its installed
[05:25] <macgeek> cafeugo_: i think it looks cool. for example, if your showing what your listening to and you change the color of song and artist to set them apart
[05:25] <bob2> TylerDurden: dpkg -L unrar | grep bin
[05:25] <macgeek> cafeugo_ how is it spam?
[05:26] <AaronT> Anyone know how to change the ubuntu boot splash (the one with the loading bar)
[05:26] <cafuego_> macgeek: Those kidsn of scripts are also banned on this channel.
[05:26] <TylerDurden> it says unrar is not installed
[05:26] <bob2> AaronT: non-trivial; how much do you care?
[05:26] <bob2> TylerDurden: there you go
[05:26] <macgeek> cafeugo_: it takes a script? ok thanks
[05:26] <TylerDurden> but it is! synaptic shows it green
[05:26] <TylerDurden> and only options r removal and complete removal
[05:26] <erick> bob2, thanks it work
[05:26] <macgeek> cafeugo_: i wasnt planning on using it on this channel, especially if i'll get banned :|
[05:27] <scribbles> how do I know if im using deforma fonts?
[05:27] <AaronT> Its rather dull and boring
[05:27] <AaronT> ubuntu logo on black
[05:27] <bob2> AaronT: hwo often are you rebooting?
[05:28] <seife> How do i change from Gnome to Ximian?
[05:28] <AaronT> every day
[05:28] <bob2> AaronT: suspend-to-disk?
[05:28] <cafuego_> seife: That question does not compute.
[05:28] <AaronT> dual boot with xp
[05:28] <bob2> seife: Ximian is a company, not a desktop
[05:28] <bob2> seife: if you mean Ximian Gnome, I don't think it exists anymore
[05:29] <cafuego_> bob2: It does, it's called SuSE.
[05:29] <jhank> isnt ximian taken over by novel?
[05:29] <synackuator> evian: are you using breezy by any chance?
[05:29] <bob2> hah
[05:29] <jhank> which also took over suse
[05:29] <TylerDurden> so bob2 whats going on? why doesnt iw rok?
[05:29] <bob2> "it work"?
[05:29] <TylerDurden> yeah lol typo
[05:29] <bob2> I don't know, I don't use synaptic
[05:29] <bob2> you don't have the package installed, tho
[05:30] <TylerDurden> lol but it shows it as installed
[05:30] <amerkert> Wow, just installed 5.10 preview (powerpc) seems to be alot of improvements over 5.04
[05:30] <TylerDurden> E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[05:30] <TylerDurden>  what does this mean?
[05:30] <nalioth> amerkert: yes there are
[05:30] <amerkert> ALL my hardware works now
[05:31] <nalioth> TylerDurden: it means you have some weird repos
[05:31] <TylerDurden> i get that messsege a lot. how cna i make sure theyre all fine?
[05:31] <TylerDurden> i didnt change anything, i just added universe
[05:31] <TylerDurden> from repos in synaptic
[05:31] <bob2> TylerDurden: that means it doesn't know where to get that package from
[05:31] <bob2> TylerDurden: but it heard that it existed
[05:32] <bob2> TylerDurden: enable multiverse, in this case
[05:32] <TylerDurden> weird =/
[05:32] <nalioth> TylerDurden: add multiverse
[05:32] <TylerDurden> theres no multiuniverse in synaptic
[05:32] <nalioth> TylerDurden: read. multiverse
[05:32] <TylerDurden> same thing, typo
[05:32] <seethru> TylerDurden: then edit it manually...
[05:32] <TylerDurden> im not doing it manually
[05:32] <seethru> wtf not
[05:32] <TylerDurden> those mess it up, i tried once, i couldnt download anything
[05:32] <seethru> uh
[05:33] <seethru> I always edit it manually
[05:33] <nalioth> TylerDurden: unfortunately, you are gonna havta open the terminal from time to time
[05:33] <erick> bob2, ./configure is successful but when i issue the next cmd the make I got lots of error "aliases.c413 erro:"cmd_value2' undeclared (first use in this function)
[05:33] <TylerDurden> nalioth how do i edit it through terminal?
[05:34] <nalioth> TylerDurden: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TylerDurden about cli
[05:34] <jgrieves_> yello all
[05:34] <bob2> erick: sounds like buggy code
[05:35] <erick> bob2 yes
[05:35] <jgrieves_> how are you all doing
[05:36] <jgrieves_> awesome :)
[05:36] <erick> bob2, first time to install gyach
[05:37] <erick> bob2 I try to use apt-get to install this but it is not available in the rep site
[05:37] <bob2> okiedokie
[05:37] <bob2> sounds like you need to talk to whoever wrote it
[05:37] <erick> bob2,have you try installing gyach?
[05:38] <bob2> never even heard of it
[05:39] <erick> bob2, k, this is also first time to hear it in this room one of the user advise me to used it so I try but it seem im not successful
[05:39] <erick> anyone used or try installing gyach
[05:39] <pajama> hi, can I use the infrared port in my portable to control the TV, as a remote control?
[05:40] <nalioth> erick: do you have a link for it?
[05:40] <bob2> what on earth is it?
[05:41] <erick> nalioth, here is the link http://www4.infi.net/~cpinkham/gyach/#whatis
[05:42] <erick> bob2,gyach is like a messenger that according to user it can use the webcam feature like yahoo messenger
[05:42] <Ohtsu> good night
[05:42] <nalioth> bob2: gtk based yahoo client
[05:42] <bob2> erick: that sounds like gaim, but less useful and more unmaintained
[05:42] <nalioth> bob2: correct
[05:43] <bob2> erick: I'd be kinda surprised if it worked at all, too, since the last release was in 2003
[05:43] <erick> bob2,yes but gaim does not support webcam
[05:44] <erick> bob2 your right bob, but according to site it is the stable release
[05:44] <sentra99> ok i new to ubuntu and need help finding a program for par2 files
[05:44] <sentra99> any help would be great
[05:45] <nalioth> erick: gaim-vv supports video
[05:45] <nalioth> sentra99: apt-cache search par2
[05:45] <nalioth> sentra99: in a terminal
[05:45] <mustard5> hmmm...irc looks the same from breezy. :)
[05:45] <nalioth> mustard5: you are mistaken. we are all mirror images now.
[05:45] <mustard5> hehe
[05:46] <mustard5> a faultless install from the pre-release
[05:46] <mustard5> I like it when it goes like that
[05:46] <ibrasil> somebody know where i find webcam ibm 11043 driver? if exists
[05:46] <erick> nalioth gaim -vv?gaim  1.5.0-1ubuntu3 is the built -in in ubuntu, can I upgrade this using this cmd, apt-get upgrade gaim -vv?
[05:47] <nalioth> erick: no. you have to compile it yourself
[05:47] <sentra99> anyone able to help?
[05:48] <erick> nalioth, so it safe to uninstall the built-in gaim and recompile the new one?
[05:48] <bob2> no
[05:48] <bob2> just leave it
[05:48] <AaronT> My gaim is 1.5.0 isnt that the newest?
[05:48] <erick> bob2, is your answer address to my question?
[05:49] <nalioth> erick: sure is. ymmv
[05:49] <chi_mk> lo
[05:49] <nalioth> AaronT: we are discussing an experimental gaim
[05:50] <erick> nalioth. what is ymmv? is this the packages name for gaim -vv
[05:50] <cevizoglu> !ymmv
[05:51] <cevizoglu> your mileage may vary
[05:52] <nalioth> erick: means it may work for you, and may not
[05:53] <erick> k nalioth thanks
[05:53] <nalioth> erick: as bob2 says, leave your gaim alone
[05:54] <erick> k
[05:54] <NewDude> When is 5.10 officially out
[05:54] <nalioth> NewDude: er, read /topic
[05:54] <NewDude> Oh snap, sorry. Thanks
[05:55] <mustard5> 15th?
[05:55] <cevizoglu> 13th
[05:55] <kevogod> 13th
[05:55] <tritium> nalioth: what are those users experiencing X problems reporting?
[05:55] <sudonim> On the topic - what is the upgrade process for moving from 5.04 to 5.10?
[05:55] <gefbals> hello i need help for my serial mouse on ubuntu 5.10?
[05:55] <nalioth> x not starting
[05:55] <Rev-Marc> is there anything to gain by installing KDE in Ubuntu "Kubuntu" is is it more detramental?
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> sudonim, sudo apt-get disk-upgrade
[05:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sudonim about upgrade2breezy
[05:56] <bob2> sudonim: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:56] <bob2> gefbals: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xforg, set it up manually
[05:56] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: it is just another desktop system
[05:56] <sudonim> cool thanks!
[05:56] <AaronT> Will it be difficult going from the 5.10 preview to the final?
[05:56] <jgrieves_> Aaron, no
[05:56] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: you can have as many desktop systems as you wish
[05:56] <jgrieves_> have you been upgrading?
[05:56] <tritium> AaronT: just keep it up-to-date
[05:56] <jgrieves_> if so with no problems, you'll be fine
[05:56] <erick> thanks, but naliot I try this cmd to install gaim -vv apt-get install gaim -vv and get this error apt 0.6.40.1ubuntu9 for linux i386 compiled on Oct  5 2005 13:40:08
[05:56] <erick>  \ Supported modules: \ *VEr: Standard .deb \ * Pkg: Debian dpkg interface (Priority 30) S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary source tree
[05:56] <gefbals> ic tnx whats the difference between the xserver-xorg or xserver-xforf?
[05:56] <jgrieves_> RC is almost complete
[05:57] <Rev-Marc> so it can be installed and swiych back and forth?
[05:57] <gefbals> bob2: i mean xforg
[05:57] <kevogod> When I lock my screen and then come back to it, shouldn't the guy with the goatee, which I find disturbing, be my login photo instead?
[05:57] <bob2> gefbals: typo
[05:57] <Rev-Marc> that is switch
[05:57] <jgrieves_> all of my bugs are done except the About Ubuntu, whcih will be lame if it doesn't get fixed
[05:57] <cafuego_> erick: you're inventing spaces where there are none
[05:58] <cafuego_> erick: The package is 'gaim-vv' and not 'gaim -vv'
[05:58] <erick> cafuego_ k thanks
[05:58] <kevogod> Anyone know?
[05:58] <gefbals> when i run the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the mouse detection portion was not anymore in the pages...
[05:58] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: yes it can
[05:58] <AaronT> kevogod: I have the same funny bug
[05:58] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: and you can run kde progs under gnome and vice versa
[05:59] <Rev-Marc> Thanks....
[05:59] <kevogod> I personally think they should strike the goatee, but meh
[05:59] <Rev-Marc> that's kewl
[06:00] <bob2> guy with a goatee?
[06:00] <AaronT> bob2: The little profile pictures (avatars)
[06:00] <davidmccabe> Sorry if this has already been asked a million times, but: With just four days until breezy, if I upgraded today I would get basically the exact same packages while avoiding the download rush hour, right?
[06:00] <erick> cafuego, http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/download.html can you check this site, there are 3 choices and don't know what will I pick,
[06:00] <bob2> oh, ok, not me then
[06:00] <kevogod> bob2, The default "About Me" avatar and the one that appears on the Lock/Login screen.
[06:00] <bob2> davidmccabe: mostly
[06:00] <davidmccabe> bob2: mostly what? :)
[06:01] <cafuego_> erick: sorry, busy
[06:01] <bob2> davidmccabe: mostly the same
[06:01] <bob2> I'd be pretty surpised if it was hard to download on the day, tho
[06:01] <davidmccabe> bob2: gotcha. anything important being changed or that I should know if I wish to upgrade to breezy tonight?
[06:01] <erick> cafuego, sorry, so I will try each and hope one will be successful
[06:01] <bob2> archive.u.c has ridiculously amounts of bandwidth
[06:01] <bob2> like, more than jesus would
[06:01] <bob2> and there are mirrors
[06:01] <nalioth> davidmccabe: something like that, yes
[06:01] <jgrieves_> heh
[06:01] <GameGod> hahahahah
[06:01] <bob2> davidmccabe: doubt antyhing big will change
[06:02] <nalioth> davidmccabe: they are polishing up the pkgs as we speak
[06:02] <scribbles> how do I find out what my screen resolution is set at after a default install
[06:02] <bob2> there's basically no time left to test anything new
[06:02] <TylerDurden> how cna i make a certain extention trigger a file opening? lets say i want an .exe file to open point2play
[06:02] <pudland> need help with port forwarding please
[06:02] <GameGod> what are the biggest improvements everyone is looking forwards to (or already enjoying) in Breezy?
[06:02] <TylerDurden> but do that everytime, so i dont have to do open with program everytime i want to open the file
[06:02] <davidmccabe> Right. But what I'm saying is, everything that's going to be tested has been tested, right? Or are things more last-minute than I suppose?
[06:02] <nalioth> pudland: visit portforward.com
[06:03] <mark__> Hey guys is there a linux equivelent to disk defragmentation
[06:03] <jgrieves_> davidmccabe: last minute bugs
[06:03] <jgrieves_> i konw there is a list somewhere
[06:03] <nalioth> davidmccabe: everything is there that is goin to be. final polish is happening now
[06:03] <jgrieves_> in the wiki
[06:03] <bob2> mark__: not really
[06:03] <nalioth> mark__: linux doesnt fragment
[06:03] <jgrieves_> i.e. System > about ubuntu broken
[06:03] <jgrieves_> i am sure will be fixed
[06:03] <scribbles> how do I find out my screen resolution
[06:03] <davidmccabe> nalioth: and significant polish is going to happen between now and then?
[06:03] <TylerDurden> bob2 do u know?
[06:03] <AaronT> ability to change the usplash picture
[06:03] <davidmccabe> (tell me if I'm being a pest)
[06:03] <jgrieves_> scribbles: System > Prefrecens Resolution
[06:03] <mark__> nalioth, so I dont ever have to worry about using software for disk maintenece
[06:03] <mark__> ?
[06:03] <nalioth> mark__: not for fragmentation, no
[06:03] <jgrieves_> Screen Resolution
[06:03] <bob2> TylerDurden: your question is too vague
[06:04] <bob2> TylerDurden: you mean in gnome?
[06:04] <scribbles> thx jgrieves
[06:04] <erick> mark_ I dont think theres no such defragmentation in linux file system
[06:04] <mark__> nalioth, than for what?
[06:04] <pudland> nalioth: my model isnt on there, can i elaborate on the problem?
[06:04] <TylerDurden> yes in gnome
[06:04] <nalioth> pudland: ask the channel your ??
[06:04] <davidmccabe> well, thanks y'all for the pointers. I think I'll just wait.
[06:04] <jgrieves_> erick, that's one of the beest features of linux, no defragmentation :)
[06:04] <TylerDurden> i want .exe files to always open with a certain program (point2play in this case ) but i dont have to always right click it and choose the file every single time
[06:04] <don-o> im getting chilled it so breezy in here.
[06:05] <jgrieves_> davidmccabe: good luck
[06:05] <erick> jgrieves I agree
[06:05] <TylerDurden> is there a way to assign a program to certain extentions? like gedit opens .txt files
[06:05] <nalioth> mark__: there are other problems you might have with a linux file system and there are tools to address them
[06:05] <pudland> im trying to set up gnump3d, LAN can see it, WAN says connection refused.
[06:05] <AaronT> Metaballs is the best screensaver :)
[06:05] <jgrieves_> davidmccabe: it will come soon, and just think the cost is always 0.00 :)
[06:05] <kevogod> I would say it's misleading to say there is NO fragmentation
[06:05] <pudland> see it with my IP, my host name etc..
[06:05] <nalioth> TylerDurden: right click on the thing and fix it
[06:06] <erick> GUYS brb, lunch time here in PH
[06:06] <TylerDurden> no u dont understand
[06:06] <jgrieves_> man speaking of screensavers the ubuntu-dev mailing list had a butt load of discussion fo screensavers
[06:06] <mark__> nalioth, is there anything you can elaborate on?
[06:06] <TylerDurden> thats exactly the problem, i dont want to always have to do that
[06:06] <TylerDurden> i want it so that everytime i open a .exe file it opens with point2play
[06:06] <jgrieves_> you'd think we were talking about upgrading to the new kernel or something
[06:06] <pudland> "my IP:8888".  I set port forwarding to my ip at that port.
[06:06] <carambol> how i get j2re install in breezy?
[06:07] <nalioth> mark__: there is a program called fsck 'file system check
[06:07] <bytefoo> electric sheep is an awesome screensaver :/
[06:07] <bob2> pudland: this sounds a lot more like a problem with your router than ubuntu
[06:07] <nalioth> mark__: it's there for a reason
[06:07] <bob2> carambol: apt-cache search j2re
[06:07] <pietro_spina> TylerDurden:  right click--->properties---->openwith...
[06:07] <TylerDurden> yes but i have to do that everytime
[06:07] <GameGod> hmmm bug?
[06:07] <TylerDurden> and i dont wanna have to do that, like in windows u can choose "always open this type of file with this program" option
[06:07] <mark__> nalioth, I am just trying to get an idea of maintaining a file server I am making with linux, how often would you think I need to run fsck if the server is > 1 TB of info sotred and accessed daily
[06:07] <pietro_spina> TylerDurden:  right click--->PROPERTIES.....
[06:08] <TylerDurden> grrrrr but that way i always have to do that.....
[06:08] <nalioth> TylerDurden: check the box marked "remember this setting"
[06:08] <pudland> when it says "global port" and "base port", they should be 8888 like gnump3d is set to right?
[06:08] <TylerDurden> i dont have that?
[06:08] <pietro_spina> not jus open with
[06:08] <TylerDurden> i never seen it
[06:08] <kevogod> mark__, When you run into problems? :-)
[06:08] <mark__> kevogod, thanks LOL
[06:08] <nalioth> mark__: you'd need to ask someone else, i'm a workstation guy
[06:08] <cevizoglu> is there a database of supported apps in wine?
[06:08] <TylerDurden> i dont have remember this setting?
[06:08] <mark__> Does anyone know of a way to load balance two internet connections using a linux machine
[06:09] <makkk> can someone help me figure our why my screen is one third overlapped to the right?
[06:09] <pietro_spina> on the file.... right click, then select PROPERTIES
[06:09] <TylerDurden> pietro_spina, im there, theres no option remember this setting anywhere
[06:09] <wthanna> j2re1.4 is in multiverse repository
[06:09] <carambol> bob2 thnx
[06:10] <GameGod> cevizoglu: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:10] <makkk> does anyone know how to fix a screen that is wrapped around itself?
[06:10] <nalioth> TylerDurden: right click on the thing, select 'properties' and do the open with
[06:10] <TylerDurden> .. sigh
[06:10] <suave-h> Can anyone help me configure my "Linksys WPC11 Ver.4"?
[06:11] <pupil> nalioth, where should I be expanding this file ?
[06:11] <pietro_spina> TylerDurden:  if you set the file there (in the open with tab) It will be global for that user. (i believe)
[06:11] <dodgyville> Hello
[06:11] <GameGod> cevizoglu: There's another wine app database here: http://frankscorner.org/
[06:11] <TylerDurden> it didnt work, i tried it
[06:11] <TylerDurden> it keeps opening it with the default file
[06:11] <jgrieves_> suave-h http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70246&highlight=WPC11
[06:11] <xynamax> hello I am using live CD and need help installing xmms
[06:12] <dodgyville> I did apt-get install apache2, but I can't access localhost. I don't think apache2 is running either.
[06:12] <xynamax> it says no C compiler found in $path
[06:12] <nalioth> xynamax: install 'build-essential'
[06:12] <GameGod> bingo
[06:12] <GameGod> beat me to it lol
[06:12] <xynamax> whares that>?
[06:12] <xynamax> im such a n00b
[06:12] <bob2> dodgyville: then find out
[06:12] <pietro_spina> are you sure you are in the "PROPERTIES" dialogue box.... It's the one at the bottom of the right click menu...
[06:12] <bob2> dodgyville: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[06:12] <GameGod> xynamax: do an "apt-get install build-essential" from the console
[06:13] <jgrieves_> suave-h: bah sorry thought that had the solution
[06:13] <dodgyville> bob2: It's empty.
[06:13] <pudland> dodgyville: did you check apache website docs
[06:13] <xynamax> thnx
[06:13] <claptop> Is there a service monitoring tool that you can use to turn on and off server services. i.e Mysql and apache.
[06:13] <pudland> dodgyville: they tell you how to start and stop server
[06:13] <don-o> if i install the breeze RC, is it just a matter of running apt-get to upgrade to the release version?
[06:13] <jgrieves_> don-o: yes
[06:14] <jgrieves_> just keep ugrading and you'll be all set
[06:14] <don-o> jgrieves_: okay thx
[06:14] <scribbles> apt-get upgrade?
[06:14] <njan> claptop, monitoring tool, or something fo stopping and starting services? It sounds like you've asked for two things..
[06:14] <suave-h> trying to get Linksys WPC11 ver.4 working on laptop. Can anyone help me?
[06:14] <claptop> your right.. guess im looking for one tool with both options
[06:15] <Bicchi> I am running dual monitors and I was wondering if there is an application for linux that will allow me to send a window to another monitor by just clicking a button on the window. So if its on monitor 1 send to monitor 2 and viceversa.
[06:15] <bob2> dodgyville: then install apache2 again
[06:15] <jgrieves_> suave-h: is it recognized in device manager?
[06:15] <ogami1972> hello all cahnnel!
[06:15] <jgrieves_> i noticed in the forums its been talked about
[06:15] <ogami1972> channel even!
[06:15] <jgrieves_> and supposedly works out of the box
[06:15] <suave-h> I don't know where device manager is in ubuntu. I did an lsmod and it seemed to show up as a pcmcia dev
[06:15] <claptop> Im looking for somthing like the one fedora has.
[06:15] <ogami1972> has anyone had problems with ebay and firefox?
[06:16] <bob2> the device manager is unlikely to ever be useful
[06:16] <carambol> i installopenoffice,but j2re is not in FF.bob2
[06:16] <bob2> it's best to forget it is there
[06:16] <carambol> openoffice.org2
[06:16] <jgrieves_> suave-h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:16] <jgrieves_> .4 you say?
[06:16] <suave-h> yes
[06:16] <xynamax> I just tried to install build essentials and got this error: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:16] <xynamax> running live CD
[06:16] <nalioth> xynamax: close all your apt-get or synaptic windows
[06:17] <nalioth> xynamax: or use "sudo" to initiate
[06:17] <xynamax> i dont know what any of that is
[06:17] <jgrieves_> suave-h: check out that page, and follow the links
[06:17] <aaron_> close gedit
[06:17] <jgrieves_> looks like you use ndiswrapper
[06:17] <claptop> The one that fedora uses lets you resart the server services and see what pids are running.. dont see anything like that with Ubuntu
[06:17] <nalioth> xynamax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:17] <xynamax> thansk you
[06:17] <jgrieves_> suave-h: #
[06:17] <jgrieves_> The Linksys WPC11 ver 4 is a confirmed success.
[06:18] <claptop> all gui if course
[06:18] <claptop> of
[06:18] <nalioth> xynamax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:18] <suave-h> yeah I saw thanks alot guys. This whole wireless situation made me crossover from gentoo to ubuntu
[06:18] <suave-h> I appreciate the help
[06:18] <jgrieves_> suave-h: working?
[06:19] <jgrieves_> my dell wireless card worked on the first shot with ndiswrapper
[06:19] <suave-h> I can see that it will. I am oh-so familar with ndiswrapper so. It will in about 15 min
[06:19] <jgrieves_> gui pooped up  when it was found
[06:19] <jgrieves_> great, let us know if it doesn't work
[06:19] <suave-h> I will :)
[06:19] <jgrieves_> make sure to change the thign from eth0
[06:19] <jgrieves_> to wan0
[06:19] <jgrieves_> when it gets installed
[06:19] <jgrieves_> its easy to miss :) least it was for me
[06:20] <suave-h> yeah, does ndiswrapper come with the ubuntu kernel?
[06:20] <mark__> Does anyone know of a way to load balance two internet connections using a linux machine?
[06:20] <sebell> I see that the Applications menu icon has changed in breezy, how would one change it back to the default gnome icon?
[06:20] <jgrieves_> suave-h: no
[06:20] <jgrieves_> apt-get install ndiswrapper
[06:20] <jgrieves_> i think
[06:20] <suave-h> I'll have to bring up eth0 then
[06:20] <suave-h> damn
[06:20] <jgrieves_> hmm no
[06:20] <jgrieves_> one sec
[06:21] <xynamax> retried build essentials install as sudo -s and got this error: Couldn't find package build
[06:22] <omer> [darth] [aatim] , hello
[06:22] <jgrieves_> suave-h:Ubuntu comes with an earlier version of the ndiswrapper kernel modules that are pre-compiled. Many users find success by simply using these. To see if the precompiled modules work for you, simply install the ndiswrapper-modules and ndiswrapper-utils packages from the Synaptic Package Manager
[06:22] <scribbles> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2956 anyone else find this amusing?
[06:22] <jgrieves_> sorry, was wrong ,i had to update mine for it to work
[06:22] <ogami1972> has anyone had trouble seeing images on ebay thru firefox?
[06:23] <pajama> hi, can I use the infrared port in my portable to control the TV, as a remote control?
[06:23] <suave-h> so how do I go about unpacking ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[06:23] <jgrieves_> you can use the gui
[06:24] <wickedpuppy> scribbles, wha password and all ... nice :P
[06:24] <jgrieves_> System > Administration > Symantec
[06:24] <jgrieves_> Synaptic
[06:24] <jgrieves_> ha
[06:24] <jgrieves_> search ndiswrapper
[06:24] <ogami1972> lol
[06:24] <jgrieves_> throw in the CD
[06:24] <suave-h> ok thanks alot
[06:24] <xynamax> can anybody help me on this? I retried build essentials installation as sudo -s and got this error: Couldn't find package build
[06:25] <ogami1972> buid-essentials
[06:25] <pupil> do i have to sudo apt-get install cvs ?
[06:25] <jgrieves_> pajama: u searched the repositories?
[06:25] <xynamax> build-essential
[06:25] <ogami1972> "build"
[06:25] <xynamax> s
[06:25] <jgrieves_> that is the first start, then forums, then wiki
[06:25] <jgrieves_> or i guess forums, then wiki, then repositories *Shrugs*
[06:25] <GTroy> what GStreamer do I need to get sound?
[06:26] <GTroy> sorry for the blunt question
[06:26] <anethema> has anyone here succesfully set up rlocate in ubuntu ?
[06:27] <jgrieves_> wow just looked at newest leaked version of  Vista, it looks...pretty much the same
[06:27] <anethema> anyone ?
[06:27] <jgrieves_> i like how Windowsblinds 5 will do what they have spent like 2 years doing
[06:27] <TylerDurden> whats metacity?
[06:28] <anethema> the window manager
[06:28] <kevogod> The description of a city.
[06:28] <jgrieves_> anethema: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate?highlight=%28rlocate%29
[06:28] <jgrieves_> ?
[06:28] <xynamax> got build-essential installed thank you!
[06:28] <TylerDurden> and esd, ssh agent and bonobo?
[06:28] <anethema> lookning jgrieves_
[06:28] <mark__> Does anyone know of a way to load balance two internet connections using a linux machine?
[06:29] <anethema> thats the one jgrieves_ but it doesnt compile :(
[06:29] <anethema> its asking for some version.h in the kernel source which the kernel source doesnt have
[06:30] <TylerDurden> can somebody answer my question please? im very curious about those
[06:30] <anethema> esd is a sound daemon
[06:30] <anethema> ssh is a secure communications tool
[06:30] <nalioth> TylerDurden: esd is enlightenment sound daemon, ssh agent is your ssh client idk bonobo
[06:30] <anethema> and no idea about bonobo
[06:30] <anethema> hehe
[06:31] <nalioth> TylerDurden: metacity is your window mangler
[06:31] <TylerDurden> thanks
[06:31] <jgrieves_> anethema: sorry nothing
[06:31] <TylerDurden> how can i stop certain programs from loading at startup?
[06:31] <jgrieves_> TylerDurden: System > Administration > services
[06:32] <jgrieves_> for some of them
[06:32] <TylerDurden> and what is this bar on x chat? ----> there r two bars below all the people on the server and one of them keeps changing
[06:32] <Trashcan> repositories down?
[06:32] <TylerDurden> jgrieves_ there r only about 10 there :S i have about 30 processes running right now
[06:32] <nalioth> TylerDurden: i'm sorry but ubotu is down with all the info
[06:33] <jgrieves_> oh we have a bot for that, great
[06:33] <jgrieves_> innitab
[06:33] <TylerDurden> ubuto test
[06:33] <TylerDurden> so lol, what is that bar for and how do i prevent some programs from launching?
[06:33] <inc|freaky> good morning all ;D
[06:33] <inc|freaky> hope you all slept well ;D
[06:34] <TylerDurden> sry im kinda demanding for an answer, im just sure some of u know it and im kinda impatient to know
[06:34] <inc|freaky> schooltime soon
[06:34] <inc|freaky> im using kvirc its the best imho
[06:36] <inc|freaky> musterhauskchen fachgeschft *sing*
[06:37] <jgrieves_> TylerDurden: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71569&highlight=startup+services
[06:37] <jgrieves_> if you want more power you need to do manual configuration or download a  new gui
[06:38] <jgrieves_> via apt-get
[06:38] <pupil> Where would I find the Kernel Headers
[06:38] <twysted> pupil did u apt get them?
[06:38] <carambol> can somebody give me the  download link for opera-static
[06:38] <carambol> ?
[06:38] <anethema> god damnit why isnt rlocate in apt
[06:38] <suave-h> ok so I'm having a problem. I can't install the windows driver because I am not root. But as I understand it, you can run ubuntu as root.
[06:38] <pupil> twysted, I have no idea what they are called
[06:38] <nalioth> TylerDurden: uncle google is your friend
[06:38] <anethema> it is telling me that the kernel source doesnt have some version.h that i need
[06:38] <twysted> suave-h use sudo
[06:38] <jgrieves_> suave-h sudo
[06:38] <seethru> suave-h: sudo
[06:38] <anethema> so it wont compile
[06:38] <jgrieves_> lol
[06:38] <TylerDurden> nalioth, thats not why people come here
[06:38] <twysted> suave-h ex. 'sudo command'
[06:39] <TylerDurden> google is for ppl who arent lazy and who have a lot of time
[06:39] <TylerDurden> here i can get a straight answer
[06:39] <twysted> pupil you should be able to sudo kernel-soruce or headers
[06:39] <nalioth> TylerDurden: in linux you help yourself first, then when you are at a dead end, you come here
[06:39] <jgrieves_> TylerDurden i gave you the link
[06:39] <jgrieves_> to the post that described your situation
[06:39] <jgrieves_> you want more power
[06:39] <TylerDurden> jgrieves+ i checked it out, i dont see anything relevent to what im looking for?
[06:39] <TylerDurden> it talks about bum and lvm?
[06:40] <pupil> twysted, so the command would be " sudo apt-get headers " ?
[06:40] <nalioth> TylerDurden: read about bum
[06:40] <twysted> pupil sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[06:40] <nalioth> TylerDurden: people dont send you things for chuckles. thats why you come here.
[06:40] <pupil> twysted, thank yoou
[06:40] <nalioth> pupil: your question has been answered elsewhere
[06:40] <jgrieves_> TylerDurden: yeah bum is what you see
[06:41] <jgrieves_> You will either have to manually modify the symbolic links in /etc/rc?.d or install a different rc script utility. Synaptic lists a few, one of which explicitly states that it will let you edit the rcS.d links.
[06:41] <pupil> nalioth, no it hasnt,. that site does not tell me how to get the headers
[06:41] <TylerDurden> ill look bum up tomorrow
[06:41] <TylerDurden> c ya guys
[06:41] <jgrieves_> its right there
[06:41] <nalioth> pupil: #kubuntu-offtopic perhaps?
[06:41] <TylerDurden> it doesnt say what bum is
[06:41] <TylerDurden> he just says hes having trouble with bum
[06:41] <jgrieves_> BUM is the services manager
[06:41] <jgrieves_> your using
[06:41] <nalioth> TylerDurden: ask uncle google about "ubuntu bum"
[06:41] <pupil> nalioth, sorry,. I wasn't looking,. heh
[06:42] <nalioth> TylerDurden: ask uncle google "ubuntu <whatever>"
[06:42] <TylerDurden> uncle google u mean www.google.com right?
[06:42] <anethema> nalioth:hey is there a reason that the kernel source doesnt have a version.h in its inlude/linux directory? rlocate is demanding it be there to compile so it can check
[06:43] <nalioth> anethema: did you get headers, source and whats the other thing
[06:43] <TylerDurden> ahhh i searched synaptic for bum. synaptic is great
[06:43] <anethema> uhh not headers
[06:43] <anethema> but its trying to check the kernel version
[06:43] <jgrieves_> http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
[06:43] <jgrieves_> there Tyler
[06:43] <nalioth> anethema: get the headers
[06:43] <jgrieves_> documentation for BUM
[06:43] <TylerDurden> well gnight
[06:43] <jgrieves_> 'night
[06:44] <anethema> ok
[06:44] <macgeek> how much hd space does ubuntu 5.10 i386 take?
[06:44] <Burgundavia> macgeek, about 2 gigs
[06:44] <macgeek> ok
[06:44] <macgeek> thanks
[06:44] <jgrieves_> i'm at like 4ish
[06:44] <jgrieves_> after a lot of extra
[06:44] <jgrieves_> ok
[06:45] <pupil> nalioth, what do I look for in synamptic kernel-headers ?
[06:45] <Burgundavia> hoary was 1.8 gigs for default install
[06:45] <nalioth> pupil: to match your kernel, yes
[06:45] <anethema> he was talking to me pupil
[06:45] <anethema> but yeah
[06:45] <anethema> its linux-headers-<version>
[06:45] <pupil> I fogot the command to list the kernel version
[06:45] <nalioth> pupil: uname -a
[06:45] <bob2> pupil: uname -r
[06:46] <trajan> im having problems configuring my azureus client in Ubuntu 5.10rc
[06:46] <jgrieves_> oh duhu sorry anethema, its in the headers
[06:46] <jgrieves_> i just saw that yesterday
[06:46] <trajan> i keep getting NAT errors on the TCP port
[06:46] <jgrieves_> when i d/loaded the headers
[06:46] <jgrieves_> bah why cant i remember things
[06:46] <jgrieves_> dang that doesn't work
[06:47] <pupil> 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Thu Oct 6 10:46:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:47] <pupil> what command would I use to check to see if I have the headers for that kernel?
[06:48] <trajan> any ideas as to what may be blocking the ports ?
[06:49] <suave-h> I've tried google so now I''ma asking you all. Does anyone know the name of the linksys WPC11 ver. windows .inf file?
[06:49] <tritium> pupil: apt-cache policy linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:50] <jgrieves_> suave-h : linksys website?
[06:50] <jgrieves_> are u saying you can't find them?
[06:50] <suave-h> yes and I actually downloaded the driver
[06:51] <jgrieves_> ok
[06:51] <pupil> tritium, It says Installed: (none)
[06:51] <suave-h> I tried lswlnds.inf or .sys and I get invalid driver
[06:51] <tritium> pupil: then you don't have them
[06:51] <pupil> tritium, I used synaptic but the version is older than mine
[06:51] <jgrieves_> suave-h can't you navigate in the folder?
[06:51] <pupil> and I already have it installed
[06:51] <jgrieves_> and see the naems?
[06:51] <hondje> I have a dumb question. I installed lm-sensors, set it up, but all /usr/bin/sensors gives me is information on the ram I have
[06:52] <pupil> tritium, so where do I get it?
[06:52] <jgrieves_> or am I way off
[06:52] <suave-h> yes. but I can't find any with the .inf file ext.
[06:52] <tritium> pupil: it's in the repos
[06:52] <hondje> I have the i2c-i801 and eeprom modules loaded...am I missing something?
[06:52] <pupil> tritium, my kernel is 2.6.12.9.22
[06:52] <dieguito> hondje: you need to load modules for your mainboard sensors probably
[06:52] <erick> http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html#source_tarballs, Guys this link you can find how to install gaim-vv, I chose autopackage install, I download thw two packages with extention namae of .autopackages how can I run this
[06:52] <jgrieves_> suave-h hold
[06:52] <XtR> Oh hi. Does anyone know how to minimize a full screen rdesktop session?
[06:52] <pupil> tritium, know what its called/
[06:53] <dieguito> hondje: i remember there was a script that lm-sensors ran the first time you use it... but maybe that was distro-specific
[06:53] <nalioth> erick: dont mess with autopackage
[06:53] <synackuator> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just fixed my wlan0 problem!!!!!!!!! a whole week of nothing but troubleshooting !!!!!!!!!!!! omfg troll yay
[06:53] <ice_1963> =p
[06:53] <twysted> lol
[06:53] <erick> nalioth what will I chose the source?
[06:53] <twysted> XtR> you cant its a bug you have to kill it from another terminal window
[06:53] <nalioth> erick: download the source and do it in the time honored fashion
[06:53] <tritium> pupil: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:53] <hondje> dieguito: yeah, sensors-detect, I ran that one and it told me to use those two... I have an i845 chipset for my mobo...any modules I might have missed?
[06:53] <twysted> XtR> it is a known bug though and should be fixed soon
[06:53] <XtR> ACk. Thanks.
[06:54] <erick> thanks nalioth I will try the long way of installing gaim-vv
[06:54] <jgrieves_> suave-h: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Wireless-Link-sys-WPC11/x98.shtml
[06:54] <suave-h> thank you
[06:54] <jgrieves_> check out that command and his link
[06:54] <jgrieves_> let me know if that works
[06:54] <FooFighter> hey guys, i just added a 250 gig harddrive that contains 2 ntfs windows partition to my pc, i typed df -h and it only shows my 1 harddrive that i originally installed ubuntu on... do i have to mount it first or something?
[06:55] <pupil> tritium, thank you., thats a neat little trick
[06:55] <jgrieves_> suave-h: cardctl ident
[06:55] <twysted> FooFighter, yes
[06:55] <macgeek> question: i installed the base system of ubuntu, but i got an error while installing the remaining packages. it said i still needed the cd to boot without the remaining packages, but when i do, i can't skip to install the remaining packages, because the menu doesnt have that option
[06:55] <tritium> pupil: :)
[06:55] <macgeek> how
[06:55] <pupil> tritium, ok,.. I think I have everthing,.
[06:56] <jgrieves_> suave-h: bah sorry that's using SUSE
[06:56] <tritium> pupil: I'm glad.  Good luck :)
[06:56] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[06:56] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu breezy ROCKS!
[06:56] <fr33mind> I loose some special chars like "at" and accents after dist-upgrade (breezy) it's normal?
[06:56] <fr33mind> something is broken?
[06:56] <suave-h> yeah it couldn't identify it.... :(
[06:57] <suave-h> "no product info available"
[06:57] <jgrieves_> one sec
[06:57] <fr33mind> I have to wait for updates or there is a package that I can downgrade? (which one?)
[06:57] <da_bon_bon> how do i remove the openoffice.org ? (1) not 2
[06:57] <kYotiK> what are the hot-keys to switch desktops in gnome?
[06:57] <fr33mind> I use cf keybord.
[06:58] <pbutter> do i have to mount a harddrive to get it to show up in df -h?
[06:58] <pbutter> i just added one, and its not showing up at all
[06:58] <fr33mind> I can't even go to console with CTRL-ATL-Fx
[06:59] <dieguito> hondje: i really dont know, but you might want to look in /lib/modules/your-kernel/kernel/path/to/sensors
[06:59] <anethema> doh, nalioth...when i compile it now its asking for old gcc :(
[06:59] <anethema> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[06:59] <hondje> okay, thanks
[06:59] <macgeek> does nobody know the answer?
[06:59] <kYotiK> macgeek, whats your q?
[06:59] <nalioth> anethema: "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" and then compile your stuff (if you have gcc3.4 installed)
[07:00] <anethema> its 3.3
[07:00] <macgeek> i installed the base system of ubuntu, but i got an error while installing the remaining packages. it said i still needed the cd to boot without the remaining packages, but when i do, i can't skip to install the remaining packages, because the menu doesnt have that option. how do i skip to just install the remaining packages?
[07:00] <anethema> seems to be what comes with ubuntu
[07:00] <anethema> 3.3 and 4.0
[07:00] <anethema> /usr/bin/gcc-3.3
[07:00] <anethema> /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[07:00] <dieguito> nalioth: symlink it and see what breaks :p
[07:00] <nalioth> anethema: install 3.4
[07:01] <kYotiK> macgeek,  if you don't use the cd, does it load grub? or does it not do anything at all?
[07:01] <jgrieves_> suave-h you just have the exe ?
[07:01] <jgrieves_> bah i hate linksys
[07:01] <macgeek> kYotiK: nothing
[07:01] <macgeek> i didnt get that far
[07:01] <jgrieves_> why can't they just give the .inf files
[07:01] <suave-h> yeah it's on my windows comp though
[07:01] <dieguito> nalioth: heh don't do what i said, i'm just kidding
[07:01] <anethema> oh, duh..didnt think it would be in apt
[07:01] <suave-h> can I exec the .exe file using ndiswrapper?
[07:01] <nalioth> dieguito: what are you talking about?
[07:01] <kYotiK> macgeek:  i havent ever had that problem, i dont know what the command would be from the boot menu to continue a failed setup.. have you tried reinstalling?
[07:02] <erick> naliot, are you a RHCE? or any certificates?
[07:02] <nalioth> erick: i'm certifiable
[07:02] <da_bon_bon> shit! i have two versions of gcc installed
[07:02] <da_bon_bon> how do i remove one ?
[07:02] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: you dont have to, they peacefully coexist
[07:02] <macgeek> kYotiK: i really dont want to, this is like my 7th time trying to install and its the first time the base installation worked
[07:02] <kYotiK> da_bon_bon,  leave them
[07:02] <da_bon_bon> i dont need two version
[07:02] <jgrieves_> NET8180.INF and rtl8180.sys
[07:02] <dieguito> nalioth: ah, i recommended you some lines ago to do a symlink of gcc3.3 named gcc3.4, and i just say you (just in case) that i was kidding
[07:03] <suave-h> ok thanks
[07:03] <kYotiK> da_bon_bon,  you will need two diff versions when it comes to two diff source codes.. depends on what they were built to work with
[07:03] <twysted> da_bon_bon> they are fine id leave it as is you might runinto issues
[07:03] <da_bon_bon> ok
[07:03] <erick> nalioth, what do you mean im certifiable? don't need any certificates? no need for that
[07:03] <twysted> certs are a joke erick
[07:03] <kYotiK> macgeek,  how come the base install just worked this time?? did you do anything different?
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu backports for breeezy are not ready yet ?
[07:04] <jgrieves_> suave if thsoe aren't it
[07:04] <jgrieves_> the documentation should show it
[07:04] <nalioth> dieguito: ty
[07:04] <jgrieves_> readme file or something
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> kYotiK, twysted, nalioth : even a new install of ubuntu has two gcc ?
[07:04] <nalioth> erick: it's an american joke. certifiable means to be diagnosed as insane
[07:04] <suave-h> yeah I got it...thnaks
[07:04] <twysted> my install of ubuntu has the 2 versions
[07:05] <kYotiK> da_bon_bon,  im not sure if mine came with 3.3 too or if i had to install it myself
[07:05] <da_bon_bon> twysted: new install ? from cd ?
[07:05] <erick> nalioth, k
[07:05] <twysted> new install from cd i havent really added much to it as of yet
[07:05] <da_bon_bon> how do i remove openoffice.org 1 ?
[07:05] <erick> nalioth how many years
[07:05] <fr33mind> Which package I have to reinstall to have the keyboard files?  like Canadian French etc.. ?
[07:05] <ice_1963> apt-get remove
[07:05] <anethema> one last question here nalioth
[07:06] <kYotiK> nalioth, certs are a joke as to what it takes to get them, and how much you will use the information that you crammed into your mind before the exam, but in the work force, certs definately earn you a better pay check
[07:06] <jgrieves_> da_bon_bon use apt-get remove
[07:06] <anethema> in which modules directory would i put a rlocate thing
[07:06] <anethema> the module
[07:06] <erick> try synaptic packages mngr
[07:06] <da_bon_bon> ok.
[07:06] <da_bon_bon> did it with synaptic
[07:06] <jgrieves_> yeah just as easy :)
[07:06] <nalioth> anethema: i dont understand your question
[07:06] <da_bon_bon> wooo hoo! seems ubuntu applied fc's patch for the title bar flash :)
[07:06] <anethema> uhh well
[07:06] <anethema> it compiles
[07:06] <nalioth> erick: i've been using linux off and on since 1997
[07:06] <anethema> now i need to modprobe it
[07:07] <anethema> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/(what)
[07:07] <anethema> where in there should i put it
[07:07] <anethema> just wherever?
[07:07] <anethema> fs maybe
[07:07] <kYotiK> anethema,  what are you compiling?
[07:07] <anethema> drivers
[07:07] <anethema> rlocate module
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> cya guys
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> need to go
[07:07] <jgrieves_> c ya
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> jgrieves_: :)
[07:07] <pbutter> can someone post there sources.list for breezy?
[07:07] <erick> nalioth you have a long experience in linux, you are one of the GURU in here,
[07:07] <pupil> tritium, I need to apt-get sdl ,.. do you know what it is?
[07:08] <Remmelas> good evening all, i have a keyboard question.  I have all of my keys working, except my end key, witch does nothing when pressed, can anyone help me troubleshoot it?
[07:08] <anethema> nalioth: will insmod find it if i just make a directory in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/drivers ?
[07:08] <kYotiK> what kind of drivers?
[07:08] <kYotiK> because the module should be able to be modprobed
[07:08] <anethema> yes modprobed
[07:08] <kYotiK> when you compile it it should have already put it in the kernel modules
[07:08] <tritium> pupil: the library?
[07:08] <anethema> i didnt make install because i want to use the .deb to install the actual rlocate package
[07:08] <ice_1963> ya get a new one
[07:09] <jgrieves_> pbutter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28Upgrade%29%7C%28Breezy%29
[07:09] <kYotiK> it should have a .ko file in the source code directory
[07:09] <jgrieves_> has a default list
[07:09] <jgrieves_> mine has a couple extra not supported
[07:09] <kYotiK> anethema,  what is the driver your installing? what kind of device?
[07:09] <anethema> its a module for rlocate
[07:09] <pupil> tritium, libsdl
[07:09] <anethema> thats it
[07:10] <anethema> i compiled locate
[07:10] <anethema> rlocate i should say
[07:10] <anethema> but i just want to get the module out
[07:10] <tritium> pupil: there are several.  please search through the output of "apt-cache search libsdl"
[07:10] <pupil> cool
[07:10] <kYotiK> anethema,  im not sure about making the deb package
[07:10] <kYotiK> but the .ko
[07:10] <anethema> i found a deb package
[07:10] <kYotiK> that will be in the directory from where you compiled
[07:10] <anethema> but the deb doesnt have the module
[07:10] <kYotiK> u should see a .ko file
[07:10] <anethema> so i compile
[07:10] <anethema> yes
[07:10] <anethema> where do i copy it
[07:11] <anethema> thats what im askin..i found the .ko :)
[07:11] <kYotiK> well
[07:11] <zoe> hello, I need to resize my ext3 partition (make it smaller) and create a fat partition with the extra space that can be shared between windows and linux.  what is the tool that I can do this with?
[07:11] <erick> cd ..
[07:11] <bob2> anethema: rlocate?
[07:11] <pbutter> can someone pastebin a updated new breezy sources.list?
[07:11] <anethema> ahh i got it
[07:11] <anethema> never mind
[07:11] <pbutter> i cant seem to download stuff
[07:11] <jgrieves_> pbutter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28Upgrade%29%7C%28Breezy%29
[07:11] <jgrieves_> has the default list
[07:12] <anethema> bob2: its like slocate but uses the module to keep track of stuff so it is always up to date
[07:12] <kYotiK> anethema if you can do a locate "filename"    then
[07:12] <kYotiK> you will see where its at after u do a make install
[07:12] <anethema> i want rlocate, not slocate
[07:12] <anethema> hehe
[07:12] <jgrieves_> pbutter: d you have those?
[07:12] <dodgyville> I know that ubuntu can't include something like the w32codecs, but I would like to install them anyway. However, breezy gives me a GPG error on apt-get update when I add a repository like mallirat to sources.list.
[07:12] <Remmelas> anyone have any thoughts why the end key would not work on a keyboard, but all others would?
[07:12] <jgrieves_> dodgyville, look up Easy Ubuntu
[07:12] <kYotiK> anethema,  make install,    then the filename that the module uses, use  the locate command to find it \
[07:12] <jgrieves_> in the forums
[07:13] <jgrieves_> script to install codecs
[07:13] <jgrieves_> worked for me in Breezy RC1
[07:13] <hol_> can someone tell me...how i'm supposed to do anything
[07:13] <hol_> with out...GCC
[07:13] <jgrieves_> hol_ download gcc....
[07:13] <bob2> anethema: holy god
[07:13] <jgrieves_> then you can build
[07:13] <bob2> anethema: I'd strongly recommend not throwing random kernel modules at your system
[07:13] <dodgyville> jgrieves_: Thanks
[07:13] <anethema> well
[07:14] <kagen> just finished installing ubuntu
[07:14] <hol_> jgrieves_, ya, but i look at how to setup GCC and it seems...impossible
[07:14] <anethema> rlocate is the default used in gentoo, etc
[07:14] <anethema> its not just random
[07:14] <kagen> can someone tell me how to make it so I can use a refresh rate higher than 60hz?
[07:14] <kagen> like 75?
[07:14] <anethema> its a pretty popular tool
[07:14] <jgrieves_> hol_ how so?
[07:14] <anethema> i wish it used inotify though
[07:14] <erick> nalioth need help,Im on my nest step in installing gaim-vv, rigth now im installing GST-Jpeg2000 and got this error checking for   gstreamer-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-control-0.8 >= 0.8... configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !
[07:14] <jgrieves_> kagen, System > Administration Screen REsolution
[07:14] <hol_> jgrieves_, unlike most sources...with installing GCC without GCC....its alot harder
[07:14] <jgrieves_> should be there
[07:14] <pbutter> i found a really good guide for installing dc++ on ubuntu once, i cant find it again, i found this one longer guide, but it doesnt seem to be working
[07:14] <kYotiK> anethema, i guess if its random you will figure that out on your own by learning the hard way lol
[07:14] <pbutter> there was a guide where it took like 2 commands
[07:14] <anethema> FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument
[07:14] <nalioth> erick: in synaptic search for gstreamer and install the -dev pkg(s)
[07:14] <anethema> doh
[07:14] <pbutter> and dc++ worked
[07:15] <anethema> thats just from modprobing rlocate
[07:15] <pbutter> anyone ever seen anything like that before?
[07:15] <pupil> tritium, when you apt-get it installs quite nicely
[07:15] <erick> k nalioth thanks
[07:15] <anethema> what am i doin wrong
[07:15] <kagen> jgrives_, I already went there, it only lets me use 60hz
[07:15] <pupil> tritium, its working now
[07:15] <zoexii> hello, I need to resize my ext3 partition (make it smaller) and create a fat partition with the extra space that can be shared between windows and linux.  what is the tool that I can do this with?
[07:15] <kYotiK> nothing is ever better for ya than breaking your system on your own.. and having to fix it back.. you'll always learn that way..
[07:15] <hol_> jgrieves_, most sources you just go like "./configure;make;make install" or something
[07:15] <anethema> yeah
[07:15] <tritium> pupil: good deal, buddy!
[07:15] <pupil> tritium, you gottal ove linux
[07:15] <anethema> ive been using linux a long time actually..fixed it time and time again, but always bounced back and forth linux to windows
[07:15] <hol_> jgrieves_, now how am i supposed to compile something....that doesn't have a compiler to compile it...
[07:15] <anethema> till ubuntu
[07:15] <anethema> now it is all linux, all the time
[07:15] <anethema> hha
[07:15] <nalioth> zoexii: gparted or qtparted
[07:16] <anethema> but now it is saying FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument
[07:16] <pupil> tritium, I'm not even scraping the surface and I feel like there's so much depth to it
[07:16] <anethema> when i modprobe rlocate
[07:16] <kYotiK> pbutter, what are you talking about?    dc++ the newest gui version is called valknut
[07:16] <jgrieves_> hol_ download gcc via apt-get
[07:16] <anethema> any idea anyone? haha
[07:16] <zoexii> hol, use apt to install gcc, no need to compile it,
[07:16] <pupil> tritium, like,. it allows you to be creative,.
[07:16] <tritium> pupil: there's a lot, but don't get overwhelmed.  You're doing great!
[07:16] <anethema> nalioth: ? :D
[07:16] <hol_> apt-get is...idk
[07:16] <zoexii> nalioth, will try, thanks,
[07:16] <TiMiDo> damn i can't go to sleep and it's already late
[07:16] <needhelp123> anybody know how to get totem-xine to work in mozilla based browsers?
[07:16] <needhelp123> totem at all?
[07:16] <jgrieves_> apt-get is debian :) dont like it, ur on the wrong distro :)
[07:17] <needhelp123> i hate mplayer
[07:17] <nathanj> is there a forum member list?
[07:17] <zoexii> nalioth, is either one better than the other?
[07:17] <kagen> lol
[07:17] <pupil> tritium, like how you used uname -r to allow the correct headers to be installed
[07:17] <hol_> i didn't say i didn't like it...
[07:17] <hol_> i just said its...idk
[07:17] <nalioth> zoexii: they will both work fine. one is gtk and the other is qt
[07:17] <tritium> pupil: nifty, huh?
[07:17] <kYotiK> anethema: sounds like your doing it wrong
[07:17] <TiMiDo> nalioth do you sleep?
[07:17] <kYotiK> anethema,   just do a modprobe rlocate
[07:17] <pupil> tritium, I didn't realize you could be so creative
[07:17] <nalioth> TiMiDo: sleep?
[07:18] <tritium> pupil: you surely can
[07:18] <TiMiDo> yeah ;P
[07:18] <TiMiDo> everytime i come over here i always see you helping around
[07:18] <pbutter> kyotik, is there a simple way to install it?
[07:18] <bob2> anethema: you don't just download .ko's and load them
[07:18] <pupil> tritium, uh ohh,. can you help me difuse this problem
[07:18] <anethema> i downloaded the source from the rlocate site
[07:18] <kagen> is there any other way to increase the refresh rate? 60hz hurts my eyes..
[07:19] <anethema> compiled it
[07:19] <tritium> pupil: please ask in the channel, and hopefully one of us can
[07:19] <nalioth> pupil: tritium can help you better in the other channel
[07:19] <anethema> now i want to load the resulting module
[07:19] <jgrieves_> g2g
[07:19] <jgrieves_> sorry guys
[07:19] <jgrieves_> have a godo ngiht :)
[07:19] <hol_> maybe i need to fix the sources.list
[07:19] <needhelp123> is there an alternative to mplayer-mozilla?
[07:19] <kYotiK> pbutter,   apt-get install valknut
[07:19] <TiMiDo> needhelp123 not really,
[07:19] <needhelp123> TiMiDo, what about totem
[07:19] <TiMiDo> maybe, realplayer
[07:19] <TiMiDo> well u can open urls with totem,
[07:19] <TiMiDo> so mplayer
[07:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> what would be teh best install for ubuntu if its just an x client? would ubuntu-minimal do the trick?
[07:20] <needhelp123> TiMiDo, i want to play embedded media files on web pages
[07:20] <needhelp123> Kamping_Kaiser, most likely
[07:20] <TiMiDo> well, try copying the totem, plugin to the mozilla dicrectory or something
[07:20] <needhelp123> TiMiDo, do you know if totem-xine works well
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> come to think of it, apt-cache show ubuntu-package should help.... thanks all :)
[07:21] <logikal> is ubuntu distro of the yeat?
[07:21] <logikal> or what award did it win?
[07:21] <anethema> so bob2/nalioth/tritium no one knows what it means when it says FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument
[07:21] <anethema>  ?
[07:21] <TiMiDo> logikal yes it is, really good
[07:21] <bob2> logikal: it one some award from some group
[07:21] <needhelp123> logikal, pc world liked it a lot
[07:21] <nalioth> anethema: i have no idea what you are trying to do
[07:21] <TiMiDo> www.ubuntu.com and look at it logikal
[07:21] <bob2> I wouldn't take awards like that very seriously
[07:21] <anethema> nalioth: never heard of rlocate?
[07:21] <bob2> anethema: sure I do, it means the module is broken
[07:21] <bob2> anethema: I really really wouldn't bother with this
[07:21] <nalioth> anethema: vaguely
[07:21] <anethema> why not? like
[07:21] <rchudd81> has anybody had problems with xbase-client?
[07:21] <anethema> gentoo uses it by default instead of slocate
[07:22] <anethema> its a legitmate project like slocate
[07:22] <TiMiDo> rchudd81 not really what
[07:22] <TiMiDo> rchudd81 not really what's the issue?
[07:22] <needhelp123> TiMiDo, are you familiar with playing media files embedded on web pages?
[07:22] <anethema> i cant find another good way to search my system for a file without having to updatedb every time a file gets created
[07:22] <Brondoman> Any idea why madwifi was removed from the current RC release?
[07:22] <rchudd81> when I tried to update it had some sort of dependency problem
[07:23] <rchudd81> it became a broken package
[07:23] <hol_> installing gcc-3.3
[07:23] <hol_> which will due for now
[07:23] <nalioth> anethema: beagled will soon take care of it, no?
[07:23] <hol_> mwuhahah
[07:23] <TiMiDo> needhelp123 not really i just used my pc to program and fixed up bugs,
[07:24] <anethema> well
[07:24] <anethema> beagled only searches your home dir
[07:24] <anethema> and stuff
[07:24] <Brondoman> madwifi is a broken package?
[07:24] <needhelp123> nalioth, could you please help me?  i need to play embedded videos on web pages but cannot get totem-xine to work.
[07:24] <anethema> i want it to be just like locate, but always up to date
[07:24] <anethema> which rlocate does perfectly
[07:24] <rchudd81> xbase-client was broken on my system
[07:25] <anethema> and i dont get beagle much
[07:25] <anethema> like i type .jpg into it
[07:25] <anethema> or *.jpg
[07:25] <anethema> no hits
[07:25] <anethema> and ive got tons of jpgs
[07:25] <rchudd81> then when I rebooted my x display stopped working
[07:25] <nalioth> needhelp123: i can only recommend the mozilla mplayer plugin idk anything aobut totem and webpages
[07:25] <aztek> does anyone have a link to a "n00bs guide configuring wpa_supplicant"
[07:25] <TiMiDo> that plugin need some fixing
[07:26] <TiMiDo> aztek yeah google
[07:26] <FunnyLookinHat> aztek: we haven't even figured it out yet.
[07:26] <FunnyLookinHat> at least, for PAL 2.0
[07:26] <Brondoman> so is madwifie broken or just left out of the cuurent RC release?  It really messes me up during install now....
[07:26] <FunnyLookinHat> err, wrong channel
[07:27] <zoexii> whoa!
[07:27] <zoexii> ok, so the partition that I want to resize is my ubuntu partition,
[07:27] <pbutter> what command do i need to mount an ntfs drive so that i can acccess movies on it?
[07:27] <zoexii> I cannot run gparted from my current install, can I?
[07:27] <Brondoman> um, sorry to bother again....madwifi?
[07:28] <Madpilot> !+ntfs
[07:28] <erick> pbutter do you have dual boot installed on your machine
[07:28] <needhelp123> Seveas, totem-xine does not work in firefox....i hate mplayer.  can you help?
[07:28] <zoexii> is there a live cd, (knoppix maybe?) that has gparted or other partition software?
[07:28] <vengeful_> aztek the last guide i tried didnt work
[07:28] <pbutter> no, i just added a 250 gig harddrive, it has 2 partitions
[07:28] <nalioth> Madpilot: ubotu is away
[07:28] <pbutter> 1 is 200 1 is 50, i need the 2nd partition to get all my movies
[07:28] <pbutter> and music
[07:29] <nalioth> zoexii: use the ubuntu live CD
[07:29] <Madpilot> nalioth: I just realized that... :(
[07:29] <vengeful_> so i gave in and used wep..il probably have another stab at it this week..since im off work
[07:29] <DShepherd> How can I configure a program to run with root priviliges without starting the program from the CLI
[07:29] <pbutter> ubuntu is on a whole different 80 gig drive
[07:29] <erick> pbutter try fdisk /dev/hdb
[07:29] <HrdwrBob> DShepherd: run it with gksudo
[07:29] <zoexii> and it comes with gparted pre-installed?
[07:29] <zoexii> right on. will try.
[07:29] <nalioth> pbutter: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:29] <DShepherd> HrdwrBob: So just edit the desktop config file?
[07:29] <HrdwrBob> yeah
[07:30] <erick> pbutter, if your ntfs drive is on your 2ndary master or slave
[07:31] <erick> pbutter try this fdisk /dev/hdb then you will prompt on the fdisk windows and type p and enter you will see your 2nd harddrives partion
[07:32] <pbutter> its on slave
[07:32] <pbutter> of primary
[07:33] <erick> then after mkdir /mnt/drivec or /mnt/movies then mount it by this cmd mount /dev/hdb1 or 2 /mnt/movies
[07:33] <erick> pbutter try fdisk /dev/hdb and check the out put
[07:33] <pbutter> i tried fdisk, it says cannot open /hdb
[07:33] <erick> try /hda2
[07:33] <nalioth> pbutter: did you use sudo?
[07:33] <dieguito> hello people, i'm "upgrading" from sarge to ubuntu breezy, i read some time ago that this involves just the apt-get dist-upgrade and some sudo settings
[07:34] <nalioth> dieguito: ymmv
[07:34] <dieguito> should i consider something else?
[07:34] <pbutter> okay now im getting something
[07:34] <nalioth> dieguito: upgrading from sarge to breezy should work ok
[07:34] <pbutter> 1) software that runs at boot time
[07:34] <DShepherd> I have trouble burning with graveman. In truth it just gives me an error before actual burn start. What other alternatives are there?
[07:34] <nalioth> DShepherd: k3b
[07:34] <pbutter> or 2) booting and partition software from other os
[07:35] <erick> what is the result pbutter
[07:35] <DShepherd> nalioth is that a kde app
[07:35] <bur[n] er> upgrading from sarge to breezy should work, although you'll end up doing a lot of apt-get -f install & dpkg --configure -a :)
[07:35] <dieguito> DShepherd: k3b is really good (you dont have to install kde to use it, only some base packages)
[07:35] <Madpilot> DShepherd: it is, but unlike the native Gnome burnign tools, it actually works...
[07:36] <DShepherd> dieguito: thanks, will do
[07:36] <nalioth> DShepherd: yes it is. and it is most likely the best cd/dvd burning tool we have available
[07:36] <dieguito> DShepherd: anyway you still have gnome toaster and xcdroast (or something like that)
[07:36] <anathema_> ok no one can help me make this module work? please? Its a legit module..ubuntu is actually going to be making rlocate the default, but they wanna make it not be a module first (search ubuntu wiki)
[07:37] <DShepherd> dieguito: will look into the gnome apps too
[07:37] <anathema_> when i modprobe it...it says FATAL: Error inserting rlocate (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/misc/rlocate.ko): Invalid argument
[07:37] <anathema_> i just compiled this module
[07:37] <nalioth> anathema_: i could help you, but i run ppc and ymmv
[07:37] <dieguito> anathema_: ?
[07:37] <Madpilot> DShepherd: GnomeBaker is OK, but I couldn't get it to burn audio CDs - k3b did
[07:37] <pbutter> erick i sent it pm
[07:37] <anathema_> i just dont know what to do about it saying this when i try to modprobe
[07:37] <dieguito> Madpilot: now there is serpentine
[07:37] <anathema_> im running sudo modprobe rlocate
[07:38] <nalioth> pbutter: you cannot PM . you are not identified to services
[07:38] <Madpilot> dieguito: I know about it; I'm still using Hoary here though
[07:38] <erick> pbutter, if you installed your 2nd harddrive to on primary slave it should be on /dev/hdb, is your 2ndharddrive detected on your BIOS
[07:38] <DShepherd> Madpilot: Same problem here. I've heard about serpentine. is that any good?
[07:38] <dieguito> Madpilot: update dude \0>
[07:38] <vengeful_> i use it for mp3s
[07:38] <nalioth> DShepherd: my serpentine segfaults every time i start it
[07:38] <vengeful_> thats all it does :-)
[07:38] <needhelp123> DShepherd, can you help me use totem-xine with epiphany?
[07:38] <Mercutio> Ok guys back for more help...
[07:39] <Mercutio> I gave up witht the ati graphics card
[07:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone have that unlimited EVDO verizon wireless plan?  i'm curious whether they can really charge you more for using your pda as a modem to a laptop.  can't you just hide that you're doing it?
[07:39] <Madpilot> dieguito: I'll update on the official release version on Thursday... ;)
[07:39] <Mercutio> I have one my roommate says is a geforce
[07:39] <dieguito> Mercutio: hey dont give up
[07:39] <Mercutio> how do I install that one from the command line?
[07:40] <pbutter> erick, hold up ill check one sec
[07:40] <erick> pbutter k
[07:40] <vengeful_> erm xorg should just pick it up auto
[07:40] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: they check data trhoughput. as in "how much data can the guy d/l to his pda?"
[07:40] <dieguito> Madpilot: archive.ubuntu.com will be breezy'tted, EVERYONE is waiting til oct 13
[07:40] <Mercutio> it doesn't gives me eror messages
[07:40] <Mercutio> I did modify my xorg while trying to configure the ati
[07:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> nalioth what does data throughput have to do with anything?
[07:41] <twysted> BROKEN_LADDER> they can tell by bandwidth usage
[07:41] <vengeful_> ahh ;-)
[07:41] <Mercutio> is there a way to reset it?
[07:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> twysted what does bandwidth usage have to do with anything?  you could use tons of data with your pda.
[07:41] <dieguito> Mercutio: check for a xorg.conf~ file
[07:41] <Madpilot> dieguito: I'm patient... I'll even wait until the weekend after release if need be
[07:41] <twysted> not as much as you would with a laptop
[07:41] <dieguito> Mercutio: note the "~"
[07:41] <Mercutio> ok just one sec
[07:41] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: the point is: if they see you d/l 9gb/day they're gonna know you aint d/l it to a pda
[07:42] <twysted> BROKEN_LADDER> if your using it to check your mail no worries if your trying to download something big theyll know better
[07:42] <twysted> BROKEN_LADDER> dont they charge by mb or something anyways
[07:42] <dieguito> Madpilot: i'm going to install it on the laptop from isos, i was shocked yesterday when my friends multimedia keys worked out of the box
[07:42] <Brondoman> hello.  Anyone know if and why madwifi (atheros driver modules) were removed from Breezy?
[07:42] <Mercutio> I found it but it is the same as the regular one
[07:42] <twysted> Brondoman> it was said it was a broken package
[07:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> twysted unlimited plans.
[07:43] <twysted> BROKEN_LADDER> id be careful its ment for a pda its not ment to be used for your laptop, you can essentially ruin it for everyone else
[07:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know how to use longer sound files at the graphical greeter screen?
[07:43] <Brondoman> Ahh...thanks....will it be fixed for the final relase?  Anyone with an airlink card is outta luck instaling without it....
[07:43] <Madpilot> dieguito: a friend who still runs Hoary has an MS 'multimedia' keyboard; the volume keys and the mute key all work w/ stock Hoary
[07:43] <nalioth> gentlemen, lets take the EVDO to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:43] <twysted> Brondoman> it might be its hard to say you should be able to add it in manually anyways
[07:43] <dieguito> Madpilot: oh god, then it was real, and it was real a lot of time ago O_O
[07:44] <twysted> nalioth, sorry :)
[07:44] <arkais> hi
[07:44] <pbutter> erick, yes it is detected
[07:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> i probably shouldn't pay for wireless internet in san francisco anyway, since google is going to give it to us free.
[07:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> :)
[07:45] <Brondoman> hmmm....I'll see if I can find them already compiled for Breeay then....really makes it a pain though....
[07:45] <erick> pbutter, have you try fdisk /dev/hdb?
[07:45] <twysted> Brondoman> yea but thats the great thing about linux if it doesnt come with it your can always compile it yourself easily
[07:45] <pbutter>  yes, it gives me 2 options
[07:46] <Mercutio> dieguito: can I IM you for a sec?
[07:46] <DShepherd> Sonny_Wertzik: Go to System -> Pref -> sound
[07:46] <erick> pbutter what options
[07:46] <pbutter> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[07:46] <pbutter> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[07:46] <pbutter>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[07:46] <DShepherd> Sonny_Wertzik: You can do your customization there
[07:46] <dieguito> Mercutio: send me a priv cause i dont have IM online
[07:47] <anathema_> anyone know how i can disable selinux ?
[07:47] <nalioth> dieguito: Mercutio cant PM anyone, cuz Mercutio isnt identified to services
[07:47] <dieguito> oh
[07:47] <Brondoman> I know -- been using Linux for about 7 years now... I;m an IT manager as well (former systems engineer).  Anyway, I really like ubuntu (Debian used to be my favorite) and was amazed at how well it detected hardware.....until now....just trying to avoid the long route....thanks for the info!
[07:47] <GTroy> is it a good idea to use ubuntuguide to get sound to work?
[07:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> this is great!
[07:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> However, San Francisco does have certain advantages over Philadelphia. Although topographically challenged, the area of coverage is much smaller, 49 versus 135 square miles, meaning it will take far fewer than the approximate 4,000 antennas needed in Philadelphia. While Philadelphia has double the population, 1.5 million to 800,000, San Francisco probably has a larger number of tech-savvy, anti-corporate citizens willing to
[07:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> pay a modest feeperhaps as little as US$15for municipal wireless. San Francisco also has fewer poor, who would receive service free. Finally, the California legislature is fairly liberal and would likely be less affected by lobbying from telcos. And how do those telcos feel about San Francisco going wireless?
[07:47] <GTroy> on breezy?
[07:47] <dieguito> Mercutio: then join #unidentified-d00ds
[07:47] <erick> try the 2nd option
[07:47] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: please dont do that here
[07:48] <Mercutio> how do I register?
[07:48] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: that stuff belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <TiMiDo> Mercutio /nickserv register passwd email
[07:48] <nalioth> Mercutio: /msg nickserv help register
[07:48] <GTroy> I think broken_ladder killed my question
[07:48] <barosl> anyone knows useful Python IDE for linux?
[07:48] <nalioth> GTroy: beware of ubuntuguide
[07:48] <GTroy> that's what I thought
[07:49] <Brondoman> cool....found this info....might be useful to someone elase as well...
[07:49] <Brondoman>   * There are no restricted drivers or firmware (fglrx, nvidia, madwifi,
[07:49] <Brondoman>     ipw2100/ipw2200, etc.) for Linux 2.6.12 in Ubuntu yet. We apologise
[07:49] <Brondoman>     for the inconvenience. If you own hardware that requires such
[07:49] <Brondoman>     drivers or firmware, you might be best advised to wait for the next
[07:49] <Brondoman>     milestone release.
[07:49] <GTroy> how would I search to get sound up and running?
[07:49] <twysted> Brondoman
[07:49] <twysted> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <dieguito> barosl: try p1da, it has anoying spaces only identation however
[07:49] <Brondoman> cool, thanks again!
[07:49] <nalioth> PLEASE DO NOT PASTE IN HERE. READ THE /TOPIC
[07:49] <Brondoman> Sorry -- rarely use irc.....
[07:49] <erick> pbutter whats the progress
[07:49] <Brondoman> 'night all...
[07:50] <pbutter> well those are my options
[07:50] <pbutter> i remember mounting an ntfs drive when i used debian sid a while back
[07:50] <pbutter> i dont remember at all how i did it though, but i remember it being really easy to do
[07:50] <nalioth> pbutter: did you get the URL i sent?
[07:50] <pbutter> no
[07:50] <pbutter> well there was one, that was way complicated
[07:50] <nalioth> pbutter:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:51] <pbutter> yeah that was very complicated
[07:51] <DShepherd> barosl: glade and python card
[07:51] <erick> pbutter, yeas for me it is easy I use the fdisk cmd to find what will I mount
[07:51] <nalioth> pbutter: it's a shell script
[07:51] <nalioth> pbutter: ./go
[07:51] <nalioth> how complicated is that?
[07:51] <Mercutio> wtf I keep following the directions but it keeps saying syntax error
[07:51] <pbutter> erick, i already know what i want to mount
[07:51] <pbutter> i want to mount hdb
[07:52] <mazatl> How do I get totem to play .wmv ?
[07:52] <mazatl> I typed dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:52] <mazatl> but it still doesnt work?
[07:52] <Tomcat_> pbutter: You probably want to mount hdb<x>... right?
[07:52] <pbutter> yes
[07:52] <Madpilot> mazatl: sudo dpkg <etc...>
[07:52] <pbutter> so i can watch movies, i dont even need to make it writeable
[07:52] <erick> pbutter if you want to mount your /dev/hdb try this fdisk /dev/hdb
[07:53] <mazatl> I did
[07:53] <mazatl> still doesnt work?
[07:53] <pbutter> i did
[07:53] <pbutter> i told u i got 2 options
[07:53] <pbutter> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[07:53] <pbutter> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[07:53] <pbutter>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[07:53] <dieguito> mazatl: you are missing gstreamer stuff
[07:53] <Madpilot> mazatl: close and restart Totem?
[07:53] <mazatl> Yes I did that Madpilot
[07:53] <barosl> dieguito, DShepherd, thanks!
[07:53] <mazatl> where do I get gstreamer?
[07:53] <Madpilot> !+wmv
[07:54] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:54] <Madpilot> mazatl: see ubotu ^^^
[07:54] <dieguito> mazatl: there should be gstreamer plugins for that in restricted
[07:54] <dieguito> (i guess)
[07:54] <erick> just choose the 2nd option and tell me what is the next msg
[07:54] <pbutter> just a whole bunch of options
[07:55] <arkais> when i change hoary for breezy i was thinking, openoffice have to upgrade, but noooooooooo, it is this normal? or i have to upgrade by my self?
[07:55] <logikal> well
[07:55] <logikal> I talked to a guy
[07:55] <logikal> about ubuntu
[07:55] <nalioth> arkais: it will update
[07:55] <logikal> and now he's downloading it and installing it.
[07:55] <logikal> :)
[07:55] <logikal> lol
[07:55] <Madpilot> logikal: good news, but please don't use your ENTER key as punctuation!
[07:56] <pbutter> about what i can do with the partittions
[07:56] <pbutter> can i use fdisk to mount the partition?
[07:56] <logikal> a little bit too many lines, eh?
[07:56] <erick> pbutter yes, im using fdisk to mount my partition
[07:56] <pbutter> what command did you use
[07:57] <erick> fdisk /dev/hdb
[07:57] <ilba7r> I killed gmplayer but as i use lsof | egrep '/dev/dsp|/dev/snd' I see it is still using the sound device how can i kill that?
[07:57] <pbutter> okay but then what
[07:57] <pbutter> u cant just type that and it works
[07:57] <thechris> so, put ubuntu on my parents computer
[07:57] <pbutter> there are a ton of options for what i can do, but none of them talk about mounting a partition
[07:57] <thechris> locks up when they read news...
[07:57] <thechris> any buges with firefox in 5.04
[07:58] <pepsi> what do i have to add to fstab so i can mount a filesystem as non-root?
[07:58] <erick> yes, after that cmd this will be the next option command )m for help): just type p tp print your partion
[07:58] <pirre> pepsi: man sudo
[07:58] <pepsi> pirre, that wasnt my question
[07:58] <pepsi> i want to be able to mount it myself without using sudo
[07:59] <pepsi> thanks though
[07:59] <pirre> pepsi: I don't know how to do that without sudo, soryr
[07:59] <pirre> s/yr/ry/
[07:59] <ilba7r> how can i release the sound device from a process that has been killed but is reported that is still using it
[07:59] <pirre> pepsi: you're sure it's at all possible=?
[07:59] <pbutter> okay, i hit p, it is telling me /dev/hdb2
[07:59] <pepsi> yeah
[07:59] <pbutter> and all the info about it
[07:59] <erick> pepsi, I dont think it is possibel because if you want to edit fstab you should have root permission
[07:59] <thechris> hey, i'm not at my parents computer but will this work:
[07:59] <pbutter> er hdb1 and hdb2
[07:59] <dieguito> pepsi: edit your fstab and add "users" to your options
[07:59] <thechris> sudo apt-get install epiphany
[07:59] <pepsi> dieguito, thanks :D
[07:59] <thechris> ?
[08:00] <pbutter> what is epiphany?
[08:00] <pirre> dieguito: that means all users can mount the partition?
[08:00] <erick> pbutter what kind of system FAT 16 w95 FAT 32 or NTFS
[08:00] <dieguito> pirre: yeah
[08:00] <pbutter> sudo ntfs
[08:00] <pirre> dieguito: okay.
[08:00] <thechris> pbutter: a browser that i want my parents to install becasue firefox is locking up the system
[08:00] <pbutter> er sorry
[08:00] <pbutter> ntfs
[08:00] <dieguito> there's more funky options @ man fstab
[08:01] <thechris> can anyone tell me if that is the correct package name?
[08:01] <pirre> thechris: apt-cache search ?
[08:01] <dieguito> thechris: epiphany-browser
[08:01] <thechris> thanks
[08:01] <erick> is your ntfs located in /dev/hdb2? or /dev/hdb1?
[08:01] <dieguito> epiphany is a game as far as I remember
[08:01] <arkais> i'm doing a install fest in the university of chihuahua, and ubuntu it's the sensation here
[08:01] <thechris> i can't ssh into the ubuntu box, else i would have done apt-cache search
[08:01] <nalioth> dieguito: it is both
[08:02] <nalioth> thechris: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:02] <twysted> thechris did you install ssh at all on there :p
[08:02] <thechris> i did
[08:02] <erick> hey pbutter
[08:02] <thechris> no idea what its ip is
[08:02] <pbutter> yes
[08:02] <Tomcat_> arkais: Great. :D
[08:03] <thechris> i need to set it up with ddclient, but alas i am miles away from the box with an unknown ip
[08:03] <pbutter> thechris, try apt-get install epiphany-browser
[08:03] <pepsi> techris, do you know the first 2 octets?
[08:03] <pbutter> erick, yes?
[08:03] <mzelem> Hello, anyone know how to make bluetooth keyboard/mouse work in kubuntu?
[08:04] <thechris> pepsi: 24.?.?.?  so no...
[08:04] <pepsi> aw
[08:04] <erick> pbutter, try this two option first mkdir /mnt/movies then mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/movies or /dev/hdb1 /mnt/movies
[08:04] <pupil> can anyone find a howto of using qemu to boot a windows 98 cd ?
[08:05] <pbutter> there isnt an actual folder i want to mount, just the whole drive so i can scan through it
[08:05] <pepsi> with 2 known octects scanning for known open ports wouldnt be _too_ bad
[08:05] <twysted> thechris> just tell em youll go over there and fix it sometime ;P
[08:05] <thechris> twysted: so far thats what i've done
[08:05] <thechris> i'm trying to get them to switch from winME
[08:05] <erick> so you should mount the two wit different mount point
[08:05] <nalioth> pupil: did you ask uncle google?
[08:06] <firestorm> Hi. How can I upgrade a single package from the version in hoary to Debian's testing package?
[08:06] <pbutter> hmm,  i just did sudo mkdir /mnt/windows, and then did a mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/windows
[08:06] <pbutter> and then a ls of /mnt/windows
[08:06] <pbutter> and its all there
[08:06] <pupil> nalioth, I'm chatting with him now
[08:06] <pepsi> firestorm, add the debian repos to sources.list and hope the dependencies arent too far off? :)
[08:07] <pbutter> so i think it worked, but when i try to get into it through nautilus it says permission is denied
[08:07] <pbutter> is there a root nautilus?
[08:07] <twysted> pbutter it mounted it as root
[08:08] <arkais> i want install only breezy, i order 100 cd's but i dont beleave they can come before the install fest, the install fest is on october 27
[08:08] <erick> just go to the mount point and ls and you will see the files
[08:08] <pbutter> yeah, but now i want to play them
[08:08] <twysted> arkais if you look on the shipit site there is a email address to request u get them shipped faster
[08:08] <firestorm> pepsi: okay, want to install postgresql from debian's testing because it is up to date, whereas hoary is nearly 2 years old....will this be dangerous? and what would hte debian testing repository be called?
[08:08] <nalioth> arkais: email the link on the shipit page and explain yourself. they may send it special
[08:09] <pepsi> firestorm, maybe other packages will break with the newer version?
[08:09] <pbutter> but if i go to totem, and open up /mnt/windows none of the files are there
[08:09] <erick> use the totem movie player and browse the file you want to play
[08:09] <aftertaf> gooooood morning :)
[08:09] <twysted> pbutter as i said its mounted as root
[08:09] <pepsi> firestorm, you could always try it though, if the dependencies dont get mucked up too much, you can remove it and install the old one again if it breaks stuff
[08:10] <twysted> you have to read the ubuntu wiki on ntfs to have your user be able to view the files on that drive
[08:10] <pbutter> how do i undo that, so i can access it with whatever
[08:10] <Madpilot> !+ntfs
[08:10] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[08:10] <twysted> :D ubotu is back <3
[08:11] <firestorm> pepsi: thanks for your advice :)
[08:12] <DShepherd> twysted: /dev/hda5 /mnt/winhda5 ntfs auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[08:12] <DShepherd> try that
[08:12] <pupil> can QEMU allow me to open the file and see the contents of the file? I wonder if I can use a boot disk
[08:12] <DShepherd> twysted: just change the relevant stuff
[08:13] <twysted> dshepherd its not me having the ntfs issue ;)
[08:13] <arkais> thx for your recomendations
[08:13] <erick> GUYS brb
[08:14] <DShepherd> twysted: ok....sorry
[08:14] <Licker> can someone help me? I set up my web server and need to put .php files in ther /var/www/ DIR but when saving it says: Cannot save to DIR.
[08:14] <Madpilot> pbutter: if it's owned by root, you have to use 'chown' to change ownership - "man chown" for information
[08:14] <DShepherd> pbutter:  /dev/hda5 /mnt/winhda5 ntfs auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[08:14] <pepsi> firestorm, i just checked the unstable repositories.. there are several postgresql packages that look like would install nicely
[08:14] <DShepherd> pbutter: put that in your fstab and try again
[08:15] <dieguito> DShepherd: utf8 in that line should be a good idea
[08:15] <DShepherd> pbutter: make the relevant changes
[08:16] <sexcopter8000m> morning guys. i know we've had this conversation about anti-virus and firewalls not being really necessary in linux, but i was wondering, how do other operating systems other than windows and linux fare when it comes to these things?
[08:16] <twysted> Licker> its becuase its owned by the root user
[08:17] <Licker> So how do i Change access to make it owned by another?
[08:17] <erick> try chown
[08:17] <_TomB> man chown
[08:17] <Madpilot> Licker: with 'chown' - man chown for more info
[08:17] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, id say its simply a matter of market-share... macos didnt have many viruses at all, save the classic WDEF viruses of old
[08:17] <Licker> yea they dont really give a good EXP though
[08:18] <arkais> on the shipit page, says " sent to shipping company", i think i'm just have to waith now
[08:18] <firestorm> What should this be replaced with?: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[08:18] <arkais> :S, it can be a problem?
[08:18] <A-star> hi everyone
[08:18] <DShepherd> pbutter: uid and guid does the trick. man mount for more info
[08:18] <Madpilot> Licker: man chown should have a basic example...
[08:18] <twysted> firestorm> the mirrormax mirror seems to be donw
[08:18] <arkais> firestorm, are you on hoary?
[08:19] <firestorm> arkais: yes
[08:19] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi, so is that to say, there would be more viruses written for macos if more people had it?
[08:19] <firestorm> twysted: any others you recommend I replace it with?
[08:19] <sexcopter8000m> or is macos "immune" like linux is regarded to be
[08:19] <dhonn> can FreeNX be a replacement to X as a client?
[08:19] <arkais> i have the same trouble
[08:19] <twysted> firestorm, i dont i dont use backports ;)
[08:19] <pepsi> firestorm, the breezy repos have as many postgresql pakcages as debian unstable did
[08:19] <firestorm> twysted: ok thanks :)
[08:19] <pepsi> breezy is pretty reliable at this point, id say
[08:19] <Madpilot> !tell firestorm about backports
[08:20] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, thats my opinion
[08:20] <ratonn2> Anyone know why Totem would show wrong lengths for each of my mp3s?
[08:21] <ratonn2> Is ffmpeg not the gstreamer codec required?
[08:21] <firestorm> Madpilot: thanks :)
[08:21] <firestorm> pepsi: thanks I will upgrade :)
[08:21] <thianpa> Does ubuntu supports Psybnc , Ircd ,etc ?
[08:21] <pepsi> firestorm, yeah the last time i had trouble was a few months ago, when xorg was still being retarded
[08:21] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi, ok cool, makes linux sound all the more appealing :)
[08:22] <dieguito> i'm getting "the following packages couldn't be authenticated...." error, i have ubuntu-keyring iinstalled, any idea how to solve it?
[08:22] <cafuego_> thianpa: see 'apt-cache search' and the manpage for 'apt-cache'.
[08:22] <arkais> openoffice on breezy it's take an upgrade or another package?
[08:22] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, also, if an exploit is found, there are a bunch of people all over the world ready to fix it, instead of a single company who has to decide if its worth it to fix it
[08:23] <cafuego_> arkais: breezy uses openoffice2 by default
[08:23] <aftertaf> dieguito:  a gpg signature pb?
[08:23] <dieguito> aftertaf: i guess
[08:24] <dieguito> aftertaf: but how do i fix it
[08:24] <arkais> cafuego, yea but when i upgrade to breezy doesn't work like i expect, and i have openoffice 1.1.4
[08:24] <DShepherd> is there an opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?
[08:24] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: right, but who are these people? are they proper employees who are paid to do this kind of work, or just keen hobbyists?
[08:24] <cafuego_> arkais: Yes, if you want to use ooo2, you need to tell it to.
[08:25] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, both
[08:25] <aftertaf> dieguito:  i just ignore on mine.... may not be good advice but it works still....
[08:25] <ormandj> sexcopter8000m, you should read some stuff @ linux.com about linux itself, it might clear up some things :)
[08:25] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: ok, and the thing i just don't get is, if people are professionally employed in the development and maitenance of linux as a whole, where does the money come from, if linux is free?
[08:26] <sexcopter8000m> heh, ormandj, sounds like a plan
[08:26] <ormandj> sexcopter8000m, i employ about 10 programmers to work on linux for my needs
[08:26] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, from companies that want to utilize software already out there and jsut want to expand on it... support linux servers, etc
[08:26] <ormandj> the money comes from my business, i just need improvements in various things, so i employ people to do it
[08:26] <DShepherd> is there an opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?
[08:26] <TokenBad> ok...ubuntu comes with electricsheep..but its older version...I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall electricsheep to install never version and I also tried apt-get upgrade to install newer version..but neither would work..anyone know a way to get the newer version of electricsheep installed?
[08:26] <thechris> DShepherd: you mean linke "mount"
[08:26] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: wtf is daemon tools?
[08:26] <ormandj> rofl
[08:27] <ormandj> he wants to mount iso image files
[08:27] <bur[n] er> aww
[08:27] <bur[n] er> hehe
[08:27] <ratonn2> Anyone know what repository I need for gstreamer0.8-mad?
[08:27] <ormandj> as virtual cd-roms
[08:27] <bur[n] er> !tell ratonn2 about restricted
[08:27] <DShepherd> is there an GUI opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?
[08:27] <ratonn2> I've added binary universe and multiverse
[08:27] <ormandj> ratonn: packages.ubuntu.com i think?
[08:27] <ormandj> or .org
[08:27] <thechris> DShepherd: mount -o loop -t isofs filename mountpoint
[08:27] <bur[n] er> ratonn2: that's it
[08:27] <thechris> i thnk
[08:27] <pepsi> ratonn2, universe
[08:28] <sexcopter8000m> ok, changing the subject from that, i'm dead keen for when breezy comes out, and plan to just wipe and install afresh, is there a page out there with common things one might want to backup?
[08:28] <sexcopter8000m> (i'm not lazy, honest)
[08:28] <ratonn2> i gives me dependancy errors thugh
[08:28] <bur[n] er> sexcopter8000m: just back up ~/ and /etc
[08:28] <ratonn2> Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[08:28] <ormandj> any LDAP gurus wanna waste some time talking with me? i'll sacrafice a virgin for you or something
[08:28] <DShepherd> sexcopter8000m: your home directory is a good start
[08:28] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, you dont need to wipe it clean, and breezy is damn stable right now in my experience
[08:28] <zenrox> ok wots wrong with xmms
[08:28] <zenrox> it wont start
[08:28] <bur[n] er> pepsi: how do you find breezy's X to be with regards to GL stuff?
[08:29] <zenrox> it starts then just dies off
[08:29] <ratonn2> Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[08:29] <R0bNyc> hello, i have ubuntu installed on my other partition i just chrooted into ubuntu and there are some errors after i tried to update/upgrade/dist-upgrade , so after i chrooted i also tried to reinstall grub but couldnt, so im guessin theres something wrong out of no where , im gonna install the latest ubuntu but i dont want to lose none of my information or all the gnome themes/icons i already have setup there took me a few hours what can
[08:29] <R0bNyc>  i do
[08:29] <pepsi> bur[n] er, no clue.. i never do 3d, but i can run glxgears at least
[08:29] <ormandj> bur[n] er, you need that -iackknowledgeblahblah thing
[08:29] <pepsi> bur[n] er, have you tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg?
[08:29] <ormandj> look up the flag in the manpage
[08:29] <bur[n] er> ormandj: ?
[08:29] <sexcopter8000m> ok, but the main reason i want breezy is 'cos sound is a bit screwed in hoary for me, and if i do a dist-upgrade, will it look at my hardware anew properly, or just "preserve" the previous config?
[08:30] <ormandj> bur[n] er, ok, i'll look it up for you, one moment
[08:30] <bur[n] er> man glxgears doesn't work... nor does glxgears --help ;)
[08:30] <bur[n] er> or i would
[08:30] <ormandj> google is your friend. brb
[08:30] <pupil> how do i unzip a .zip file?
[08:30] <sexcopter8000m> and i will back up ~/, though i keep most of "my docs" on a fat32 partition
[08:30] <bur[n] er> in any event... it's not really glxgears I'm worried about... ever since I upgraded to breezy, I can't play warcraft 3 through cedega ;)
[08:30] <bur[n] er> it's unplayably slow
[08:30] <bur[n] er> heck, I can't even move the mouse
[08:31] <dhonn> rightclick the zip file and click extract, pupil
[08:31] <ormandj> bur[n] er, http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/100-glxgears-in-breezy-shows-no-fps.html
[08:31] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, im not sure how random config files and such get cleaned upm, but yuou could always remove everything but the bare essentials and then install ubuntu-desktop to get everything again, heh
[08:31] <bur[n] er> ormandj: thank you mucho
[08:31] <ormandj> bur[n] er, np, i had the same issue. about a week ago :) google is really your friend :P
[08:32] <pupil> how do I write a .img file to the floppy drive,. ?
[08:32] <TokenBad> ok...ubuntu comes with electricsheep..but its older version...I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall electricsheep to install never version and I also tried apt-get upgrade to install newer version..but neither would work..anyone know a way to get the newer version of electricsheep installed?
[08:32] <ormandj> pupil, dd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrivedevice
[08:32] <ormandj> might need a bs= in there
[08:32] <pupil> thanks
[08:32] <twysted> TokenBad> if the older version is on the repository thats all your going to get
[08:32] <pupil> bs stands for ?
[08:32] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: ok, but since as i say i have most of my stuff on another partition, i think a reformat is the way forward :)
[08:32] <bjv> pupil: yeah, do 1024 bs
[08:33] <bur[n] er> ormandj: totally works :)  thanks... 300 fps isn't so great, but it's better than what I figured it was... looks like cedega is my next part of troubleshooting
[08:33] <bjv> iirc
[08:33] <twysted> TokenBad> you might want to try sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade to see if it updates
[08:33] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, yeah.. ive done it both ways myself
[08:33] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi, just thinking of firefox favourites, thunderbird emails etc
[08:33] <TokenBad> twysted, it tries to install the newer version
[08:33] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, thats all in your home dir
[08:33] <TokenBad> but it gets an error
[08:33] <bjv> pupil: blocks of bits or something.
[08:33] <ormandj> bur[n] er, you need to fix that first. 300fps won't be playable in any 3d game
[08:33] <sexcopter8000m> oh right
[08:33] <ormandj> bur[n] er, you sure you have DRI working?
[08:33] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, ~/.mozilla
[08:33] <twysted> and that error is?!
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> of course... that was quite dumb of me
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> should i backup my apt sources or are the mirrors rather different for breezy?
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> by mirrors i mean repos
[08:34] <bur[n] er> ormandj: what's that command again?  I thought it was xdriinfo
[08:34] <pupil> dd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrivedevice
[08:34] <pepsi> im sorry? backup sources.list?
[08:34] <dhonn> i just reinstall ubuntu without formating my /home partition
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: yeah
[08:35] <R0bNyc> can anyone check out my problem http://pastebin.com/388806
[08:35] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, there are different repos since its a different release
[08:35] <pepsi> you just replae "hoary" with "breezy" to upgrade
[08:35] <ratonn2> is ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main listed in the wiki for codecs trustworthy?
[08:36] <mushtaq> gjhg'
[08:36] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, so ... i dont see a point in backing up sources.list
[08:36] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: and for backports?
[08:36] <pepsi> no clue
[08:36] <pepsi> never used that
[08:36] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: heh, ok
[08:37] <sexcopter8000m> well, i have to get going for uni now, thanks for your help pepsi =)
[08:37] <sexcopter8000m> ciao for now
[08:37] <pepsi> have fun
[08:37] <mushtaq> i want to install ubuntu on 32mb pentium processor ? IBM box is it possible
[08:37] <ormandj> bur[n] er, type: glxinfo |head -n5
[08:37] <ormandj> paste output to me in pmsg
[08:37] <bur[n] er> direct rendering: Yes
[08:37] <bur[n] er> er... sorry ;)
[08:37] <mushtaq> any one from indonesia ?
[08:38] <setite> how do i remove ubuntu
[08:38] <ormandj> paste the whole set of output in pmsg
[08:38] <bur[n] er> ok
[08:38] <ormandj> setite, install something else
[08:38] <setite> i want to remove the linux partition safely
[08:38] <setite> but i need to find a way to repair my mbr
[08:38] <ormandj> oh, you installed alongside windows?
[08:38] <ormandj> ew :P
[08:38] <setite> yea its dual
[08:38] <bjv> mushtaq: how do you plan on installing?
[08:38] <bjv> from CD?
[08:38] <logikal> I run a dual too
[08:39] <logikal> Haven't booted into windows since I install ubuntu :)
[08:39] <setite> well i need to remove ubuntu
[08:39] <logikal> lol
[08:39] <logikal> why
[08:39] <setite> i wanna test vista build 5231
[08:39] <logikal> setite
[08:39] <thechris> setite: do you have WinNT (2k/xp) or 9x?
[08:39] <bjv> lol @ removing an operating system. :P
[08:39] <logikal> you can edit the MBR in windows
[08:39] <setite> xp
[08:39] <logikal> you have windows XP?
[08:40] <setite> how do i restore the mbr from windows
[08:40] <logikal> run msconfig
[08:40] <logikal> run msconfig, go to boot
[08:40] <thechris> setite: you can use the fixmbr command in the windows recovery console
[08:40] <logikal> requires some basic knowledge of editing
[08:40] <logikal> One you remove grub, you should be alright.
[08:40] <logikal> IT should repair the MBR.
[08:40] <setite> i cant get into the windows recovery console
[08:40] <setite> my windows xp instlal doenst have that
[08:40] <logikal> can you get into windows?
[08:40] <setite> im in it now
[08:40] <DShepherd> setite: pip in the winxp and go to Repair 'R' and type FixMBR after you remove ubuntu
[08:40] <thechris> setite: then run the command
[08:41] <logikal> start -> run -> msconfig
[08:41] <DShepherd> pop*
[08:41] <_rb_> hey in the printer list when running an add printer wizard, there are no printers. how do i populate it ?
[08:41] <setite> im in the msconfig
[08:41] <ratonn2> mmmm
[08:41] <logikal> go to the "boot" tab
[08:41] <ratonn2> breezy US backports if 404ing
[08:41] <ratonn2> :|
[08:41] <setite> im in it
[08:41] <logikal> what do you see?
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> erl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> Setting up login (4.0.3-37ubuntu6) ...
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> /var/lib/dpkg/info/login.postinst: line 15: /dev/null: Permission denied
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> dpkg: error processing login (--configure):
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:41] <logikal> a whole bunch of shiet you dont understand?
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite>  login
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:41] <logikal> PASTEBIN!!11111
[08:42] <setite> well i half unserstand
[08:42] <setite> i see bootloader
[08:42] <setite> timeout-30
[08:42] <_rb_> try it with sudo
[08:42] <logikal> correct
[08:42] <logikal> well listen
[08:42] <logikal> removing linux the right way will restore the MBR
[08:42] <setite> default=multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[08:42] <logikal> right
[08:42] <setite> ok
[08:42] <logikal> correct
[08:42] <logikal> that's fine
[08:42] <logikal> then just remove linux
[08:43] <setite> last time i just deleted the partition i buggered everything
[08:43] <setite> but that might have been because i was using lilo
[08:43] <logikal> dont just delete it
[08:43] <setite> stupid slackware
[08:43] <logikal> remove it
[08:43] <setite> ok how do i remove then
[08:43] <logikal> ubotu tell setite about uninstalling
[08:43] <julius> any filipino here?
[08:43] <logikal> ubotu tell setite about removing ubuntu
[08:43] <logikal> sdfklasjflsjf!
[08:43] <logikal> !uninstalling
[08:44] <setite> !removing ubuntu
[08:44] <julius> format!
[08:44] <setite> !uninstall
[08:44] <zxsykco> !bong
[08:45] <airtonix> hey guys i finally got a laptop without a cdrom to work via a network install
[08:45] <ratonn2> mmm
[08:45] <aftertaf> well done :)
[08:45] <airtonix> but all i got is a cli
[08:45] <ratonn2> backports if not working
[08:45] <ratonn2> 404ing
[08:45] <ratonn2> :\
[08:46] <mushtaq> airtonix how you will install ?
[08:46] <airtonix> and it didn;t event ask me for a root password on setup, wtf going on
[08:46] <mushtaq> via the network ?
[08:46] <aftertaf> airtonix:  install ubuntu-desktop  metapackage with apt
[08:46] <airtonix> yah
[08:46] <airtonix> netboot
[08:46] <setite> is ubotu dead
[08:46] <aftertaf> airtonix:  normal
[08:46] <aftertaf> !root
[08:46] <Tomcat_> !tell airtonix about rootsudo
[08:46] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:46] <setite> ubotu
[08:46] <setite> !help
[08:46] <setite> there we go
[08:46] <setite> !removing ubuntu
[08:46] <thechris> oh, hey, i still have issues trying to get ubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <mushtaq> airtonix do you have the howto netboot ?
[08:46] <trekrem> anyone using fluxbox, i have a quick question, well, possibly quick
[08:47] <teamsters> how do i adjust brightness in mplayer ?
[08:47] <seethru> ratonn2: what are you using for backports in your sources.list?
[08:47] <thechris> it breaks the install everytime.  is it safe not to have ubuntu-desktop?
[08:47] <teamsters> using xv as output
[08:47] <airtonix> mushtaq: hang on
[08:47] <setite> logikal hey how do i do it... im getting nothing from ubotu
[08:47] <mushtaq> airtonix ok
[08:47] <logikal> well
[08:47] <logikal> ask someone else, becuase, honestly, I don't know LOL
[08:48] <logikal> sorry
[08:48] <logikal> you may way to ask in #kubuntu
[08:48] <airtonix> wtf root diabled, this is shit
[08:48] <N6REJ> evening all
[08:48] <mushtaq> what are you asking setite
[08:48] <twysted> if you want to remove ubunutu just install something over it and let it format
[08:48] <Tomcat_> thechris: Without ubuntu-desktop, you're not compatible to the regular ubuntu install... upgrading might break the system.
[08:48] <N6REJ> Tomcat_: is that also true of the server mode?
[08:49] <thechris> hmm.  well it always fails with python-reportlab
[08:49] <thechris> which is apparently not installable
[08:49] <Tomcat_> N6REJ: Nah... but people who did a server install probably know that anyway. :)
[08:49] <N6REJ> Tomcat_: I didn't think so but wanted to check :D
[08:49] <airtonix> mushtaq: ok, checking url history  now...
[08:50] <airtonix> btw totally off-topic, but anyone noticed print.google.com?
[08:50] <Tomcat_> thechris: Maybe your CD is broken... you might want to check the MD5SUMs.
[08:50] <N6REJ> Tomcat_: I've perplexed as to exactly how to configure my system.  the changes to apache2 along with being totally new to the ubuntu way have me spinning
[08:50] <DShepherd> setite: you can try booting from your windows xp cd, go to repair and type FIXMBR
[08:51] <setite> yea tried that... i cant get into cli with my xp cd... and i cant get teh recovery console either...
[08:51] <bur[n] er> setite: while you're at it... try "fixboot" too
[08:51] <aftertaf> airtonix:  the root thing is on purpose, to protect newcomers to linux from breaking things.......
[08:51] <setite> i have been trying the ultimate boot cd...
[08:51] <setite> because i dont have a floppy
[08:51] <setite> im on a laptop
[08:51] <aftertaf> airtonix:  sudo works a treat though
[08:51] <michan> my microphone input isn't working.  i'm using alsa drivers and it's not muted or anything.  i'm sure the mic works.  can anyone help?
[08:51] <nickoli> anybody know how to solve this configure: error: *** Don't know how to handle this Qt major version
[08:51] <bur[n] er> setite: can you install grub?
[08:51] <setite> i have it already
[08:51] <zenrox> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[08:51] <zenrox>   serial 7 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 0
[08:51] <zenrox>  <---how do i fix that for xmms
[08:52] <setite> ultimate boot cd has grub also
[08:52] <bur[n] er> setite: then what's the problem? I don't see it in the backlog
[08:52] <DShepherd> fgd
[08:52] <mushtaq> setite what is ultimate boot cd ?
[08:52] <setite> i need to get rid of the linux partition
[08:52] <bur[n] er> setite: why?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> setite: use qtparted?
[08:52] <nickoli> has anybody here been able to install nvlcock 0.8b
[08:52] <setite> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[08:53] <airtonix> mushtaq, i think i got the url
[08:53] <mushtaq> airtonix good thanks
[08:53] <setite> well i have a partition application... i need to find a way to fix my mbr because last time i just deleted the partition it buggered my pc
[08:53] <mushtaq> airtonix please send
[08:53] <setite> well i had lilo at the time... under slackware...
[08:53] <zenrox> bur[n] er,  i have it installed but i like my xmms just casue it does dubble size
[08:53] <airtonix> mushtaqi had a winxp machine hosting tftpd32
[08:54] <airtonix> it put on offer a pxe image
[08:54] <bur[n] er> zenrox: mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-bak
[08:54] <airtonix> which i slurpped from the au.archive.ubunutu somehwere
[08:54] <zenrox> ok will try that
[08:54] <bur[n] er> never hurts to see if it's your config that f's it up
[08:54] <airtonix> bu i'll still get url
[08:54] <michan> i'm using alsa drivers but my microphone doesn't work for some reason.  can anyone help?
[08:54] <michan> i'm interviewing richard stallman tomorrow and i have to record it
[08:55] <zenrox> bur[n] er,  thats wot it was
[08:55] <DShepherd> setite: what's the prob with your windows xp cd
[08:55] <DShepherd> ?
[08:55] <airtonix> mushtaq, go it
[08:55] <bur[n] er> zenrox: :)
[08:55] <mushtaq> -------
[08:55] <airtonix> mushtaq, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28netboot%29
[08:55] <erick> michan? wow thats great, I want to see in richard stallman in person
[08:55] <erick> michan can send me a copy of your interview
[08:55] <michan> erick: yeah, it's gonna be awesome.  i'm writing an article
[08:55] <michan> heh, alright
[08:56] <michan> but.. i need to get my mic working
[08:56] <XtR> Gah. I installled SSHD but I can't connect without keys it looks like, what changes do I have to make to sshd_config anybody?
[08:56] <DShepherd> setite: what's the prob with your windows xp cd
[08:56] <zenrox> michan,  post a copy on the forums
[08:56] <setite> DShepherd its retarded... it doenst have a recovery console
[08:56] <zenrox> casue i ant a copy too
[08:56] <erick> yes michan
[08:56] <michan> zenrox: alright
[08:56] <DShepherd> setite: Didnt know XP was that bad
[08:56] <setite> i have two xp's one is a recovery disk which just copies windows to the drive.. and the other is an unattended install...
[08:57] <setite> regular xp has it i think... i just dont have regular
[08:57] <airtonix> mushtaq, once you have that running from the pxe rom you can connect to a repository, but i think it only uses http
[08:57] <mushtaq> airtonix thanks takecare gtg bye
[08:57] <erick> is pbutter around
[08:57] <DShepherd> can you get your hands on any XP disk
[08:57] <airtonix> aftertaf, can you assist me with this root guff?
[08:57] <N6REJ> anyone really familiar with setting up a server behind a dsl router with NAT?
[08:58] <setite> nope
[08:58] <ratonn2> what repository has libmad0 for breezy?
[08:58] <aftertaf> airtonix:  you can use sudo for most things...... do you need to enable rot?
[08:58] <aftertaf> *oo
[08:58] <aftertaf> !info libmad0 breezy
[08:58] <aftertaf> !info libmad0
[08:58] <airtonix> well, maybe how to use the apt-get command to get the desktop in
[08:59] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get.......
[08:59] <ratonn2> afterta:f E: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate
[08:59] <airtonix> aftertaf, install ubuntu-desktop  metapackage with apt?
[08:59] <ratonn2> i have universe and multiverse main in sources.list
[08:59] <aftertaf> yep....
[09:00] <aftertaf> ratonn2:  if you put uni/multi on extras too?
[09:00] <aftertaf> an idea, i did it.... dont know if it works, never got any errors yet.
[09:00] <ratonn2> afterfaf: no, i didn't
[09:00] <airtonix> sorry to be a total pain, but is this the exact syntax? sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <thechris> apt-get install ...
[09:00] <aftertaf> :)
[09:01] <airtonix> what just "apt-get install"
[09:01] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install [package1]  [packageN] 
[09:01] <N6REJ> no dsl routing genius's out there?
[09:01] <airtonix> cheers
[09:01] <airtonix> clarification is great
[09:01] <aftertaf> sudo to do it as 'root', put in your user password when prompted
[09:01] <thechris> airtonix: no, but there is no tab complete for what you just typed
[09:01] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  nope.... :) what gives?
[09:01] <airtonix> but i dont have a password for root
[09:01] <airtonix> ah bugger it seya
[09:02] <ratonn2> aftertaf: can you paste your extras line?
[09:02] <aftertaf> user password!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   some poeple get angry and dont rzad what is in front of them.
[09:02] <aftertaf> ratonn2:  :) ok.
[09:03] <ratonn2> !extras
[09:03] <ubotu> I heard extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:03] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I'm still new to breezy, only 5 days, and I'm still trying to get everything working 100%.  supposedly the apache is up, but I can see it because the stupid belkin wireless router drops the packets to 127.0.0.1.  Anyway, I need to configure apache for mod_dav & Mod_ssl and have it recognize my domain name as well as the local nat'd ip.
[09:03] <N6REJ> I wish breezy had good documentation.
[09:04] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: it's not even out yet!  yeesh
[09:04] <thechris> i'm just hoping its stable...
[09:04] <Tomcat_> Ubuntu has better documentation than most other distros... :)
[09:05] <thechris> so far i've had many issues with ubuntu
[09:05] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: you care to help?
[09:05] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: care to ask a question? ;)
[09:05] <Tomcat_> But people expect it in the wrong locations... best documentation for Linux is on the web, in mailing lists, in forums, in books. :)
[09:05] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: i'd configure it all for you if you do a reverse vnc :)
[09:05] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: whats that LOL
[09:06] <N6REJ> <------ is a dinosaur
[09:06] <aftertaf> lol
[09:06] <bur[n] er> it's where I run a vncviewer in listen mode and you start a vnc server that connects to me so I can move your mouse around and do stuff :)
[09:06] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: oh, the server doesn't have desktop LOL
[09:06] <bur[n] er> or i could just tell you... set your PC up with a static ip... forward port 80 to that local ip
[09:06] <Tomcat_> Why do you need VNC for setting up a webserver? o_O
[09:07] <bur[n] er> Tomcat_: just an easy way to get in without dealing with firewalls, etc.
[09:07] <aftertaf> ssh?
[09:07] <Tomcat_> Mh... not sure if that's easier than SSH... :o
[09:07] <bur[n] er> ssh depends on the other side configuring port forwarding ;)
[09:07] <bur[n] er> reverse vnc depends on me configuring port forwarding :)
[09:07] <Tomcat_> You could do reverse ssh tunnelling...
[09:07] <bur[n] er> Tomcat_: i dont' know how to do that ;)
[09:07] <Tomcat_> Like... he (client) opens a conn to you, tunnels the SSH port, then you connect through the tunnel. :)
[09:08] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: done that.. can't see the web server locally.  So I need to make a decision.... do I get my gigafast router out that uses a different method of routing, put the server behind that and the wirless router as a access point beside it, or what.
[09:08] <N6REJ> too many decisions.....
[09:08] <N6REJ> I can ssh into the server.. that part I have working.
[09:08] <ratonn2> anyone know what deb-src is for in sources.list
[09:08] <ratonn2> ?
[09:08] <N6REJ> www.cogyfarm.com
[09:08] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: can't go to http://localhost from that machine?
[09:08] <ratonn2> !deb-src
[09:08] <thechris> ratonn2: my guess -- sourcecode packages
[09:09] <ratonn2> should the deb-src lines be uncommented in the sources.list file?
[09:09] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: probably if I had a desktop
[09:09] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: try with links?
[09:09] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: in any event, i think you just need to have a properly configured apache.conf
[09:10] <N6REJ> I think the real problem is this line.... Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128
[09:10] <N6REJ> I need that to be a 192 address but I don't understand the ::1/128 at the end
[09:10] <N6REJ> yes I agree bur[n] er
[09:10] <N6REJ> I don't understand apache2 at all
[09:10] <bur[n] er> if you port scan that machine on your local intranet... is port 80 open and listening?
[09:11] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: how would I do that in xp?
[09:11] <N6REJ> or from an ssh client?
[09:11] <thechris> N6REJ: that is for a ipv6 address
[09:11] <bur[n] er> uhh... in winxp, i use yaps  (yet another port scanner)
[09:11] <bur[n] er> more basic... can you open up a web browser on your local intranet and do http://192.168.x.x
[09:12] <bur[n] er> where .x.x is the webserver
[09:12] <N6REJ> wow, yeah, NOW I can!! I must be on the right track.
[09:12] <N6REJ> I get a directory listing though :(
[09:12] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: i see it too :)
[09:13] <bur[n] er> your port forwarding is working as well
[09:13] <N6REJ> I tried to set it up right LOL
[09:13] <bur[n] er> just make a fancy index.html now :)
[09:13] <brosio> exist divx6 codec for linux ?
[09:14] <N6REJ> almost.. I gotta point apache to look at cogyfarm for normal webpages... I want to leave the apache default for intranet related stuff like webalizer and logs.
[09:14] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: if you don't knwo where to put it... look for DocumentRoot in your /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[09:14] <N6REJ> thats where we're at now... /var/www
[09:14] <ratonn2> Does restricted in sources.list mean that copyrighted packages will be downloaded as well?
[09:14] <N6REJ> now I gotta setup the virtual host file and thats the part that is giving me fits.
[09:14] <N6REJ> hang, on, maybe a light bulb went on.
[09:15] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: sounds like you're almost there :)
[09:15] <N6REJ> *amazing what cappuccino does
[09:15] <bur[n] er> lol
[09:15] <Syruss> you girl
[09:15] <Syruss> have an espresso
[09:15] <N6REJ> I used to KNOW how to do all this stuff fairly easily.
[09:15] <teleyinex> hi
[09:15] <brosio> exist divx6 codec for linux ?
[09:15] <Syruss> brosio, divx6?
[09:15] <teleyinex> its now "secure" to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[09:15] <bur[n] er> brosio: w32codecs package
[09:15] <N6REJ> Syruss: cappucino/coffee mix!  Ultimate BPD fix
[09:15] <nsomniac> wonder they the ubuntu dev group decided on postfix for the default MTA
[09:16] <Syruss> gtg, work :/
[09:16] <nsomniac> instead of Exim or Qmail
[09:16] <N6REJ> cause sendmail is $%#$%#?
[09:16] <teleyinex> i mean if there isnt a real risk
[09:16] <nsomniac> Sendmail = YUCKY
[09:17] <cafuego_> nsomniac: Because postfix is nice and exim4 and sendmail are not.
[09:17] <nsomniac> how is it nice ?
[09:18] <nsomniac> not that I'm bashing it ... I honestly don't know it
[09:19] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: what do  I change this : Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128 to so only my intranet can read  the files in that directory?
[09:19] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: 192.168.2.x
[09:21] <N6REJ> wait, lets back up a step.... I want to have 2 sections in my site.... one will be for intranet stuff... records, logs, manuals, doc's etc.... the other will be for the general public viewable website.
[09:21] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: ok, let me try that.
[09:21] <lyle> t
[09:22] <Licker> I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?
[09:23] <poyie> about java
[09:24] <poyie> i already install my java update but its not functioning
[09:24] <lyle> question:  I just installed ndiswrapper and installed the appropriate wireless driver for my system.  I'm lost on what next.
[09:25] <vengeful> what wireless card have u got , lyle?
[09:26] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: vhosts is the right track
[09:26] <lyle> vengeful: BCM4306
[09:26] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: ok, thats what I was thinking.... so let me work on that.
[09:27] <N6REJ> lyle:  what about that chipset?  I know it.
[09:27] <lyle> Broadcom.
[09:27] <N6REJ> lyle: yep, works great
[09:27] <Prof_Frink> lyle: I got it working following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[09:28] <lyle> thanks, I'll check it out.
[09:28] <N6REJ> the f5d7001 will work also if you add the .sys file.
[09:28] <N6REJ> lyle what is teh brand of your nic?
[09:29] <N6REJ> hmm... well, if he/she comes back.
[09:29] <N6REJ> let me look this thing up... brb all
[09:29] <N6REJ> and ty.
[09:30] <N6REJ> * gone to copy default to another name*
[09:32] <erick> Guys just want to ask how can I block a particular subjetc on my mail server let say hello I want to block it
[09:32] <N6REJ> errrmmmm... back with a quick q? .... I want one to be staff.cogyfarm.com and all the rest to default to www.cogyfarm.com... what do I put for these two lines?
[09:32] <N6REJ> 192.168.2.0/192.168.2.255
[09:32] <N6REJ> eeeeeh.. bad copy.. wait.
[09:33] <N6REJ> NameVirtualHost cogyfarm.com
[09:33] <ColonelKernel> what benefit is there to using an initrd?
[09:33] <N6REJ> <VirtualHost *>
[09:33] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: any service started by initrd only starts as called... if run in standalone it is running all the time.
[09:34] <ColonelKernel> N6REJ, crack cocaine?
[09:34] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: initrd = less continous resources, but slower startup when called.
[09:34] <signius> Good Morning Guys
[09:34] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: what???
[09:34] <ColonelKernel> initrd - initial ramdisk
[09:34] <ColonelKernel> I think youre thinking of xinted
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> or inted
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> inetd
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> ugh
[09:35] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: I stand corrected.. I was thinking of inted LOL.. told you I'm a dinosaur LOL
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> I cant type for feces tonight
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> N6REJ, its cool - im a dinosaur too b/c I know what you were talking about
[09:35] <N6REJ> :D
[09:36] <Licker>  I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?
[09:36] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: correct me if I'm wrong, but if I have a vhost that is NameVirtualHost * and another that is staff then anything that ISN"T staff goes to * right?
[09:37] <N6REJ> Licker: I think thats mime type settings, but don't hold me to it.
[09:38] <Licker> :/
[09:38] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: that's my understanding :)
[09:38] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: might be a good idea to test that theory a bit ;)
[09:39] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: will do... trying to make sure I get everything right right now.
[09:39] <Licker> anyone else know whats wrong with my server
[09:39] <Licker> ??
[09:41] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I hate not being able to see my own website via fqdn!!!
[09:41] <siimo> hi can someone please help me get Esterel 5.21 on ubuntu? :-(  its available here but seems very old http://www-sop.inria.fr/meije/esterel/getting-esterel.html
[09:41] <lyle> looks like a restart is necessary after first installing my wireless driver.  Is that a correct assumption?
[09:42] <Licker>  I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?
[09:42] <kate> where i can download mplayer for ubuntu?
[09:42] <aftertaf> kate:  with apt-get
[09:42] <aftertaf> !tell kate about universe
[09:42] <airtonix> aftertaf, i lost the info you gave me for getting the gui running
[09:42] <aftertaf> !tell kate about repos
[09:43] <aftertaf> airtonix:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <airtonix> aftertaf, yeah i tried that , it said that it cant find it or something
[09:43] <yawgmoth7> Ummmmm what is ICE Authority?
[09:43] <siimo> ?
[09:43] <airtonix> so itried sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:43] <N6REJ> can anyone tell me if this gives you "hello world" ?   www.cogyfarm.com
[09:44] <airtonix> N6REJ, yep hello world conformed
[09:44] <N6REJ> WAHOOOO!@!!!
[09:44] <airtonix> confirmed
[09:44] <yawgmoth7> Because i cant login to anyhting but a command prompt and all the errors were because of something about not being able to access ./ICEauthority
[09:44] <N6REJ> ty!
[09:44] <yawgmoth7> Im using bitchx right now :(
[09:44] <airtonix> not a problem comrade
[09:44] <N6REJ> now, step two... intranet.
[09:44] <airtonix> ook?
[09:45] <fek> moin
[09:45] <yawgmoth7> Anybody know what ICEauthority is?
[09:45] <airtonix> no jokes about banannas and ants powering a note taking machine
[09:45] <airtonix> any way
[09:45] <woldemar> !
[09:45] <woldemar> hello !
[09:45] <mzo> I understand that I need gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 playback in various apps, but I cant find it in synaptic..  anyone have a quick fix?
[09:45] <woldemar> I need a help!
[09:46] <woldemar> Does anybody speak Russian ???
[09:46] <nxv_> how do i install css to play dvds with breezy?
[09:46] <aftertaf> try -ru
[09:46] <aftertaf> !ru
[09:47] <woldemar> there is no body there
[09:47] <aftertaf> mzo:  enabled universe?
[09:47] <mzo> aftertaf, is that a repository?
[09:47] <Madpilot> mzo: yes, it is
[09:47] <mzo> no, I didnt
[09:47] <Madpilot> !tell mzo about repos
[09:48] <mzo> let me see if i can do that
[09:48] <aftertaf> mzo:  yep.
[09:48] <aftertaf> :) Madpilot
[09:48] <woldemar> Ho can i INSTALL kde in UBUNTU 5.04
[09:49] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <woldemar> blin
[09:49] <voc> hola
[09:49] <voc> spanish
[09:49] <aftertaf> !es
[09:49] <airtonix> aftertaf, so.... do you have any ideas why my installation didn't result in a gui being installed?
[09:49] <woldemar> bay
[09:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:50] <aftertaf> airtonix:  did you choose servr install option?
[09:50] <erick> guys anyperson from philippines?
[09:50] <airtonix> aftertaf, noah, Im pretty sure i started of with linux vga=771 netcfg/diasable_dhcp=true
[09:50] <aftertaf> !ph
[09:50] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[09:50] <aftertaf> airtonix:  weird......
[09:51] <airtonix> aftertaf, ja, tis lots wier
[09:51] <airtonix> aftertaf, not to worry right now, apt-get is chugging away
[09:51] <airtonix> anyone from internode here
[09:53] <mzo> aftertaf, thanks, your info helped.  I've got it working now.
[09:53] <aftertaf> cool :)
[09:53] <mzo> aftertaf, oh one more quick question.   I added the binary packages, but should I add the source and updates as well?/
[09:55] <aftertaf> mzo:  sources, no real need.....    updates, yep.
[09:55] <mzo> gotcha
[09:55] <StarKruzr> I went back to Debian because I thought its kernel support was more flexible.  Dumbass.
[09:56] <aftertaf> lol
[09:56] <StarKruzr> FORGIVE ME, MARK
[09:59] <brownie17> does anyone know anything about ntldr?
[10:00] <aftertaf> a bit brownie17
[10:00] <airtonix> something to do with mbr
[10:00] <brownie17> aftertaf, why isn't windows showing up in GRUB?
[10:00] <brownie17> aftertaf, could it be because NTLDR is missing?
[10:00] <aftertaf> brownie17:  have you added it, like the example shows you in menu.lst?
[10:00] <aftertaf> nope, ntldr is on the mbr
[10:01] <brownie17> aftertaf, yes i have added it.
[10:01] <aftertaf> is it the correct partition?
[10:01] <lucaas> brownie17, have you added it outside the "debian auto-update" area?
[10:01] <brownie17> i am not sure, how about i send you my grub file and the output of sudo fdisk, and you tell me?
[10:02] <lucaas> if you are in breezy, i think only breezy is affected by that
[10:02] <brownie17> lucaas, sorry, explain please?
[10:02] <brownie17> lucaas, i am in hoary
[10:04] <brownie17> aftertaf, what was the command to check the fstab again?
[10:04] <lucaas> in menu.lst, there is a section called "DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[10:04] <lucaas> ", and the entries there gets removed on kernel updates
[10:04] <lucaas> you could do  cat /etc/fstab
[10:04] <brownie17> lucaas, it isn't a kernel problem, this happened not from a kernel update, but destroying an old partition with win98
[10:05] <lucaas> oh, i see
[10:05] <N6REJ> well, everything works, but I'm not happy about not being able to see via the fqdn what the public sees.
[10:06] <TokenBad> are there any live cd linux versions for low end pc's?
[10:07] <brownie17> TokenBad, how low end? ubuntu is prety easy to run, you only need pentium
[10:07] <TokenBad> its like 256 meg ddr ram
[10:07] <lucaas> brownie17, you could do "sudo fdisk -l" to check what partitions you have
[10:07] <brownie17> TokenBad, that should esaily run ubuntu, nbut it is not the only requirement. check on the website
[10:08] <brownie17> lucaas, where is the grub list stored again?
[10:08] <lucaas> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:08] <TokenBad> cpu is 2ghz
[10:09] <lucaas> TokenBad, the ubuntu live cd is sortof slow, but it should run good anyway
[10:09] <daejavu> need some help with the lib files !!
[10:09] <daejavu> i copied a game Savage and it has a Linux folder with a subfolder of Lib .. there are lib files in it .. where do i paste emm in my linux system ?
[10:10] <tga> howdy
[10:10] <brownie17> lucaas, i am having problems. in the grub thing, it stores partition names as examples (hdb0,0) rather than hda1 like fdisk does
[10:10] <tga> I'm having trouble getting tap-to-drag to work with my Synaptics Alps touchpad.. any idea where to look?
[10:11] <lucaas> yes, its a little confusing sometimes
[10:11] <brownie17> lucaas, how can i find out which is which?
[10:11] <lucaas> well, hd0,0 is the first partition on the first harddrive = hda1
[10:12] <N6REJ> hmmmmm my router has a <null> for hostname of the server... I wonder why that is?
[10:12] <lucaas> brownie17, what partition does your windows partition have?
[10:13] <brownie17> lucaas, well windows is in my grub file fine then
[10:13] <nsomniac> bugger
[10:13] <nsomniac> 2 security issues with Ruby
[10:14] <lucaas> brownie17, can you pm the windows section, and i'll check if see sth worng
[10:14] <brownie17> lucaas, my windows one is hda1, and in the grub file it is hdb0,0 should i remove the b?
[10:14] <lucaas> yes
[10:14] <lucaas> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[10:14] <lucaas> root            (hd0,0)
[10:14] <lucaas> makeactive
[10:14] <lucaas> chainloader     +1
[10:14] <netmonk> what is the link for the breezyRC?
[10:14] <lucaas> thats how mine looks like
[10:15] <aftertaf> brownie17:  thers your pb ;)
[10:15] <aftertaf> hdb
[10:15] <brownie17> aftertaf, mines also got no "makeactive"
[10:15] <aftertaf> hd([0-3] ,
[10:15] <lucaas> i dont think thats a problem
[10:15] <brownie17> ok
[10:15] <brownie17> ill add it anyway just in case?
[10:16] <pupil> well boys and girls,. the OS is loading
[10:16] <pupil> SWEET,.
[10:17] <pupil> ok,. I admit,. this is exciting
[10:17] <lucaas> brownie17, hmmm, dunno, you could try with it or without it, and if it doesnt work, try the other
[10:17] <lucaas> :)
[10:17] <brownie17> allright, im going to rebot now
[10:17] <brownie17> reboot*
[10:17] <pupil> I mean, i'm installing another OS,. AND,. i'm chatting,. on the same compu ter
[10:17] <lucaas> good luck
[10:17] <pupil> I mean,. how cool is that.
[10:17] <lucaas> pupil, pretty kewl :>
[10:17] <aftertaf> pupil:  how cool!!!!!!!!!!!    damn cool man
[10:18] <pupil> you gotta love LINUX
[10:18] <aftertaf> soooo much:)
[10:18] <Skid> lol
[10:18] <Skid> litearlly, I lol'd at that
[10:18] <Skid> gee, I'm sad
[10:18] <Skid> :'(
[10:18] <aftertaf> kills me almost every day how good it is.
[10:18] <aftertaf> :/
[10:18] <pupil> LOL
[10:19] <pupil> QEMU is really nice
[10:19] <aftertaf> LOLITUDE TO BEHAD
[10:19] <pupil> I had to innovative, and it worked out
[10:19] <aftertaf> oops caps error
[10:19] <pupil> to be innovative
[10:19] <pupil> I didnt have a proper windows 98 cd,. I had the files,. but the cd was not bootable
[10:20] <pupil> I'll explain why I had to put windows 98 on later
[10:20] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: I have a question for you please... is this correct for the /etc/hosts file if I was www. to be the external ip and adam. to be the internal ?  Adam is the machines name..... 192.168.2.4     adam.cogyfarm.com       adam
[10:20] <N6REJ> 216.139.123.164 adam.cogyfarm.com       adam
[10:21] <brownie17> lucaas, didn't work still
[10:21] <brownie17> lucaas, actually i think i might have forgotten to save
[10:21] <lucaas> :>
[10:22] <brownie17> lucaas, nope, i saved. it didn't wokr
[10:22] <brownie17> lucaas, take out the "makeactive" and try again?
[10:22] <lucaas> hm.. try removing/adding makeactive
[10:22] <lucaas> yes
[10:22] <brownie17> does anyone know what the "makeactive" when adding linux partitions to grub does?
[10:23] <aftertaf> brownie17:  paste your grub windows bit in a pm if you want ;)
[10:23] <lyle> question:  I set up ndiswrapper according to the how-to wiki page, but iwconfig returns only three devices, all "no wireless extension," and no device named wlan0.
[10:23] <aftertaf> makeactive == bootable i think
[10:23] <pupil> So anyway, what I had to do to get my winblows 98 to install ,. was I had to initialise the cdrom the virtual hardisk and the floppy,. downloaded a bootable from bootdisk.com
[10:23] <N6REJ> lyle: what brand nic you got?
[10:23] <pupil> dd'd the image to a floppy,.
[10:23] <lyle> Broadcom
[10:24] <pupil> then,. with QEMU,. boot the floppy,.
[10:24] <signius> Is it worth me waiting another 4days for the official breezy how different is it going to be from the RC available for download now ?
[10:24] <N6REJ> lyle: thats teh brand of the nic itself? or the chipset?
[10:24] <lyle> ah, sorry.  hang on...
[10:24] <N6REJ> lyle: its not a belkin by any chance is it?
[10:25] <aftertaf> brand
[10:25] <vengeful> lyle...my desktop lists it as wlan but my laptop lists it as eth1
[10:25] <N6REJ> mine says wlan0 :D
[10:25] <signius> No you need to run lspci to find out that the actual chipset is
[10:26] <smott> i installed xlockmore... whats the command to use it then (it aint xlockmore or xlock)?
[10:26] <signius> Linux calls almost everything eth1 and is pretty meaniless
[10:26] <brownie17> aftertaf, in my other partitions, the word boot is on the line below, should i also try that?
[10:26] <N6REJ> signius: reason i'm asking him is the wiki won't work for the f5d7001... I was given another link and I can't find it in my history files, but therer is a MINOR change that you need to make in order to get it to work.
[10:27] <vengeful> yeh weird how it calls my wireless in desktop wlan and one in my laptop eth1
[10:27] <N6REJ> signius: it came from the hoary wiki.
[10:27] <signius> I will confess i am not at all familiar with using or setting up wiki
[10:27] <vengeful> at least i thought it was anyway..not that i care..cos it works :-P
[10:27] <N6REJ> cc vengeful
[10:28] <kemik> N6REJ:  native drivers, or trying ndiswrapper ?
[10:28] <N6REJ> I wish I could find that website, cause it needs to be given for broadcom devices.
[10:28] <N6REJ> yeah, you MUST use ndis, but you have to turn radio off and use both 5a.inf & 5a.sys NOT 5.inf only!
[10:28] <N6REJ> there are several steps
[10:29] <kemik> okie :|
[10:29] <N6REJ> let me try to find this file... so someone can put it right.
[10:29] <N6REJ> I should've printed the dang thing out.
[10:29] <signius> Broadcom fucking sux when it comes to anything other than windows
[10:29] <N6REJ> signius:  it was easy once I knew what to do.
[10:29] <lyle> in device manager, I see a "Networking Interface," vendor unknown.  Is that what I'm looking for?
[10:29] <lyle> realtek semiconductor
[10:30] <N6REJ> lyle, ok... give me a few, I have to search my internet history files... this may take a while unless anyone else knows where the ndis in hoary is.
[10:30] <signius> I cannot understand the nievity of some hardware manufacturers not releasing specs to enable drivers to be written or at least produce binary drivers to make there products available to the largest market possible hence selling more of what they manufacture hardware
[10:31] <Skid> its not nievity on all accounts
[10:31] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[10:31] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:31] <N6REJ> where is the hoary wiki's?
[10:31] <kemik> you mean that N6REJ ?
[10:32] <signius> How different is 5.10RC available for download now likely to be from the Full Release in 4 days time ?
[10:32] <N6REJ> no, that one won't work.
[10:32] <tga> how can I get my Alps touchpad to tap-to-drag?
[10:32] <Madpilot> N6REJ: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is the front page to the whole wiki, for all the versions of Ubuntu...
[10:32] <N6REJ> well, I was given a different one, that worked once I changed the driver file
[10:33] <brownie17> aftertaf, it didn't work
[10:33] <aftertaf> pffffffff!!!!!!!!!
[10:33] <brownie17> aftertaf, why wouldn't it even appear after i put it in the file!?
[10:33] <aftertaf> !grub
[10:33] <ubotu> grub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:33] <lux`> are italian here?
[10:33] <signius> Also if you need rfmon for things like kismet the ndis wrappers are useless as rfmon mode is not available in windows without expensive proprietry additional drivers
[10:33] <Madpilot> !+it
[10:33] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[10:33] <signius> and as ndis is using the windows drivers your screwed
[10:34] <lux`> ty
[10:34] <Skid> buy a nice cisco :P
[10:34] <signius> Just bouaght myself a nice Cisco Aironet 350  dual external antenna wireless NIC
[10:34] <lux`> !it
[10:34] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[10:35] <lux`> it
[10:35] <lux`> !rox
[10:35] <lux`> !breezy
[10:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:35] <signius> though its got to be said the ancontrol and an drivers under bsd put the Linux drivers to shame
[10:35] <lux`> lol i have breezy :)
[10:35] <shoshe> ppl .. i have a big problem .. please help !
[10:36] <signius> Though i have yet to find out if ancontrol is available under Linux
[10:36] <Madpilot> shoshe: if you ask an actual question, you might get actual help...
[10:36] <brownie17> aftertaf, can you please read this and tell me if you think this applies to me? http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Chain_002dloading
[10:36] <brownie17> aftertaf, are you completely familiar with my problem?
[10:36] <shoshe> well my Xwindows is not starting .. i left it working ..came back and there was an error !
[10:36] <bbr__> e
[10:36] <signius> The error might be of some use
[10:37] <signius> thought i am just guessing
[10:37] <shoshe> im using text based BitchX to do the chat now .
[10:37] <signius> thought = though
[10:37] <tga> hmm.. I've added the Alps options from the readme to my Xorg.conf but I still don't have tap-to-drag or scrolling working with my Synaptics
[10:37] <tga> shoshe, try irssi, it's nicer
[10:37] <shoshe> how can i send the output of my X so that u guyz can check it ?
[10:37] <tga> shoshe, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:38] <tga> shoshe, oh, nevermind me
[10:38] <N6REJ> anyone know how to do a word search through firefox history files?
[10:38] <shoshe> tga irssi is not available (throught apt-get)
[10:38] <Skid> shoshe: apt-get install irssi-text
[10:39] <Skid> <- uni. bbl
[10:39] <tga> shoshe, apt-cache search irssi helps
[10:39] <aftertaf> brownie17:  looking... i am a bit familiar but i dont have my home dual boot pc here, im at work.
[10:39] <Madpilot> tga: I think irssi is installed by default?
[10:39] <tga> the Xorg log shows no Synaptics errors, just the device being initialized and everything
[10:39] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[10:40] <shoshe> yeah .. irsii is installed :D .. !! didnt knew that ..
[10:40] <lyle> N6REJ: any luck?
[10:40] <shoshe> ok .. ill just tell the problem here ..
[10:40] <N6REJ> lyle: looking... *sigh*.. if you type ndiswrapper -l what does it say?
[10:41] <aftertaf> brownie17:  i know i did the chainload thing.  chainloader +1
[10:41] <shoshe> when i start the x "startx" .. it shows the first black n white screen with an X cursor and then it crashes !!
[10:41] <emuzesto> Hi, I need some help with getting the WEP for the wlan right. When I use $sudo iwconfig key hexadecimalstring, I get a serie of zeroes behind the string. When I do $sudo iwconfig key s:asciicode, two and two pairs switch place. What should I do to get it right?
[10:42] <lyle> N6REJ: it lists three drivers, two of which I tried installing and found weren't the right ones.  One says present, the others "invalid."
[10:42] <aftertaf> shoshe:  does it give you an error message?
[10:42] <shoshe> aftertaf yeah .. lemme type it here .. plz wait !
[10:42] <brownie17> aftertaf, yeah i have that too. i am thinking that has sometthing to do with loading old OS's that aren't supported, i might try removing it?
[10:42] <N6REJ> lyle: OK GREAT.. the one that says present is the right one... do this..
[10:42] <tga> shoshe, you need to look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[10:42] <N6REJ> ndiswrapper -e thebaddrivername
[10:43] <N6REJ> dang, trying to remember all the steps.
[10:43] <aftertaf> brownie17:  maybe, i cant help you more than that.....
[10:43] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[10:43] <aftertaf> ill have a look at my pc tonight...
[10:43] <LasseL> breezy freezes with the ati drivers, anyone else seeing this?
[10:43] <AES_24_96> is there something better now safer for pc backup than norton ghost?
[10:43] <N6REJ> I've got to find the darn page.... I can't remember!!!!
[10:43] <N6REJ> I HATE MY OLD BRAIN!!!!
[10:44] <LasseL> total lockup, no screen updates, no keyboard
[10:44] <aftertaf> with partition map & all.... is you windows partition set as an active partition? you know, when you installed and were in disk part creation tool?
[10:44] <shoshe> tga its a preety big file :D !!
[10:44] <lyle> N6REJ: Okay, done.
[10:44] <aftertaf> i had to reset mine as active (ie can boot from it)
[10:44] <N6REJ> ok, now sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[10:45] <brownie17> aftertaf, i was able to boot from it until i destroyed the windows98 partititon that was apparently containing some MBR info or something?] 
[10:45] <shoshe_> irssi and bitchx looks the same to me ! :D
[10:46] <lyle> N6REJ: okay.
[10:46] <shoshe_> it says Failed to load module "glx"  !!
[10:46] <aftertaf> win 98 sux...... and its bootloader is a joke....   thtis obviously dont help you, but is true... :/
[10:46] <N6REJ> this is where I'm stuck.. hang on.
[10:46] <brownie17> enyc, you there still? i am still having trouble with my windows partition
[10:47] <brownie17> aftertaf, :) microsoft in general suck
[10:47] <aftertaf> brownie17:  the world is their collection of betatesters... is the problem.
[10:47] <Syruss> lol
[10:47] <Syruss> everyone
[10:47] <Hobbsee> lol
[10:47] <Syruss> please, stop trying to dual boot with windows
[10:48] <Hobbsee> why? it works most of the time
[10:48] <brownie17> Syruss, why is that?
[10:48] <aftertaf> use qemu
[10:48] <Syruss> because why do you even want windows for a start
[10:48] <brownie17> what is qemu?
[10:48] <ormandj> google.com
[10:48] <Syruss> use kqemu
[10:48] <Syruss> that uses virtualisation
[10:48] <lux`> qemu RoX :)
[10:48] <Brik> i can't find w32codec in breezy repository....(restricted main multiverse universe)....Why?
[10:48] <aftertaf> lux`:  aparently, yeah.
[10:48] <lux`> xen more :)
[10:48] <aftertaf> Brik:  because its a sick bird
[10:48] <Hobbsee> Syruss: for me, because they dont have sims 2 for linux, and it doesnt run under cedega.
[10:48] <brownie17> Syruss, because my printer & scanner and gamepad don't work with linux. no drivers. they're worth about $200 all up
[10:48] <aftertaf> Brik:  an ill eagle ;)
[10:49] <brownie17> Syruss, actually probably more like $300
[10:49] <aftertaf> !w32codecs
[10:49] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:49] <tulus> surabaya
[10:49] <shoshe_> aftertaf: hey can you tell me what to do it my Xwin is not working and it gives this messagge "Failed to load module "glx"  "
[10:49] <aftertaf> shoshe:  what distro? what gfx card?
[10:50] <Syruss> brownie17 Syruss, because my printer & scanner and gamepad don't work with linux. no drivers. they're worth about $200 all up
[10:50] <Syruss> lies.
[10:50] <shoshe_> Ubuntu ... Ati Radeon 9600
[10:50] <tulus> haii
[10:50] <lux`> omg
[10:50] <aftertaf> shoshe:  breezy or hoary?
[10:50] <Syruss> you can get pretty much anything to work under linux
[10:50] <Syruss> stop being lazy
[10:50] <tulus> kenalan dong
[10:50] <Syruss> :)
[10:50] <brownie17> Syruss, want to help me make them work then? not lies, mistakes maybe
[10:50] <shoshe_> aftertaf: hoary !
[10:50] <tulus> matamu
[10:50] <aftertaf> !tell tulus about ph
[10:51] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok...., can you paste to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg/conf file ???
[10:51] <brownie17> Syruss, i really want my printer to work, will you help me? it is an epson stylus c45
[10:51] <vengeful> shoshe, is glx in your xorg.conf ?
[10:51] <Brik> !w32codecs
[10:51] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:51] <vengeful> i guess aftertaf thinks the same thing hehe
[10:51] <shoshe_> aftertaf: how do i do that ? im completely on terminal and dont know much abt it !
[10:51] <aftertaf> ;) vengeful
[10:51] <N6REJ> FOUND IT!!
[10:51] <tulus> aku piyeora kok jak omong
[10:51] <N6REJ> lyle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[10:51] <aftertaf> shoshe:  hmm...
[10:52] <aftertaf> !ph
[10:52] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[10:52] <shoshe_> vengeful: i think there was a section with "glx" in it .. like modules i think !
[10:52] <aftertaf> tulus:  !!!!!!!!
[10:52] <brownie17> who knows anything about printers?
[10:52] <N6REJ> do everything it says.
[10:52] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  what is that link for?
[10:52] <N6REJ> only use the driver you found that it recognized instead.
[10:52] <Hobbsee> brownie17: they're the things you print from?  Your question is rather general :P
[10:52] <aftertaf> shoshe:  comment out the "glx" line and try again....
[10:52] <tulus> gaul men
[10:53] <N6REJ> aftertaf: its gets teh broadcom 4306 nics going!
[10:53] <shoshe_> aftertaf: okie dokie .. lemme try !
[10:53] <erick> guys any  P2P client available for ubuntu
[10:53] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  only for broadcom NICs?
[10:53] <N6REJ> it will work for the belkin f5d7001 IF you use 5a instead of 5
[10:53] <Ng> erick: loads, which network do you want to use? edonkey? kazaa?
[10:53] <N6REJ> thats 5a.inf instead of 5.inf
[10:54] <N6REJ> and it will work first time out the gate!
[10:54] <erick> anything as long as I can download
[10:54] <Ng> erick: well I like edonkey and amule is quite a nice client, so install that and have a play I guess ;)
[10:54] <shoshe_> aftertaf: nops .. it says " fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
[10:54] <vengeful> erick...whatcha want to download
[10:54] <aftertaf> erick:  search p2p in synaptic
[10:54] <N6REJ> thank god for GOOGLE!! I had to keep drilling down one word at a time as I remembered bits and pieces.
[10:54] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. do you have the restricted mods installed?***
[10:54] <erick> guys thank I will try
[10:54] <Ng> aftertaf: that's not actually a very helpful search, it only finds two ;)
[10:54] <Ng> amule and a DC hub daemon ;)
[10:55] <shoshe_> aftertaf: restricted mods ? whats that ?
[10:55] <aftertaf> shoshe:  type uname -a ..... what does it say?
[10:55] <N6REJ> aftertaf: now, how do we get that moved to teh breezy wiki and updated for the f5d7001?
[10:56] <shoshe_> aftertaf Linux 2.6.10-5-386
[10:56] <lee> hello all
[10:57] <shoshe_> aftertaf: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 and kernel headers are also installed !
[10:58] <tombs> hi all
[10:58] <Stricklin> What should the permissions for all the files and folders in home be?
[10:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. what is your processor?
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: the user
[10:58] <shoshe_> aftertaf: Athlon Xp 2600
[10:58] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  its a WIKI, you can add it if you want :)
[10:58] <Stricklin> not owner, permissions
[10:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok....... You can get the linux-k7 package , optimised for your proc architecture
[10:58] <erick> Ng I will try amule, becasue its on the repository of ubuntu
[10:59] <lee> I am running hoary (v5.4?  whatever's right before breezy) and yesterday I updated everything the ubuntu update manager suggested... today the machine won't boot.  it sits at 'configuring network' for a good few minutes then moves on and tries to start X three times, fails, gives me the text dialog asking if I want to view the log, and it won't let me choose yes or no, or switch to another console, or do anything.  it does the same in recovery mode (I can't ...
[10:59] <lee> ... provide a root password as there isn't one and hitting return doesn't work).  any suggestions how I can get my system working again?
[10:59] <shoshe_> aftertaf: will that solve the prob ?
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> Stricklin, its your home ....you set the permissions you want
[10:59] <ericf> I can repeatedly crash nautilus, don't know why, but it seems to happen when browsing a dir via a symlink. How can I make a backtrace? I should use gdb for that, right?
[10:59] <aftertaf> shoshe:  it is a step towards ;)
[10:59] <frank_b> Hi all. I lost sound in my Ubuntu. Checked the hardware and and tried a live CD and it's Ubuntu's fault. Any suggestions?
[10:59] <shoshe_> aftertaf: cool !  how do i do that ? :D
[10:59] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: only view and modify for groups, full read write for user seems to be the default here
[10:59] <Hobbsee> frank_b: what type of sound card?
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, it's a "inboard" one...
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, in a P$
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, in a P4
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, or "onboard", sorry for my english...
[11:01] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok... your PC is online right?
[11:01] <shoshe_> aftertaf: yup .. a 20kb download speed .. alive n ready !
[11:01] <aftertaf> shoshe:  you've updated your sources.list to point to the repositories and not the cd?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> frank_b: in alsamixer (in console) check if everything is unmuted
[11:01] <aftertaf> shoshe:  type this:   sudo apt-get install  linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[11:02] <Q-FUNK> could anyone tell me where is the incoming queue? I'm trying to find a new package that was blogged about and supposedly has been uploaded to universe.
[11:02] <wizard> hey guys need some help, did some updates and now no sound... says i have sis snd card in system-> sound but i have sb 5.1.. whcih is on the list but when i chose it and close it goes back to sis
[11:02] <Hobbsee> frank_b: after that, mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense, then test your sound again
[11:02] <aftertaf> shoshe:  and before rebooting, if you havent done so, edit grub to make it show you the menu, that way you can choose the right kernel to boot to.....
[11:02] <frank_b> ah... don't know how to do that,  but I'll try to figure it out...
[11:02] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok
[11:03] <Hobbsee> frank_b: you know how to get a terminal window open?
[11:03] <shoshe_> aftertaf: yeah it shows the menu .. im to download abt 67mb .. and i upgraded my repositories from the ubuntuguide.org
[11:03] <frank_b> Hobbsee, yes... :)
[11:03] <frank_b> Hobbsee, just never used the program... seems to be "text mode"...
[11:03] <mattyJ> im trying to install totem-xine but when i do it wants to remove rhythmbox, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:04] <wizard> any ideas guys? thnx
[11:04] <Hobbsee> frank_b: ok, type alsamixer
[11:04] <shoshe_> aftertaf: but it has asked me to put the cd as well
[11:04] <aftertaf> cool shoshe:  or you can just aptget linux-restricted-modules-i386..... i suggest getting that one too, so that X works ok on both kernel choices, but better having a kernel for your k7 ;)
[11:04] <ericf> can anybody tell me how to make a backtrace of a nautilus crash? I can repeatedly crash it, and want to have some useful in formation for bugzilla.
[11:04] <frank_b> Hobbsee, the card, by the way, it shows in the program, it's a: "Card: VIA 8237, Chip: Realtek ALC655 rev 0"
[11:04] <Cueball|Work> Hi all. I'm using Ubuntu with KDE installed. I would like to change all the gnome stuff to use Kaffeine as default instead of Totem. What program or file can I use/edit to achive this, Thanx.
[11:04] <aftertaf> shoshe:  thats ok.... put in the cd. if packages are same version online and on CD, may as well use whats on cd.
[11:04] <Hobbsee> frank_b: then go thru and make sure that all the faders (long lines) are all up to max, and that none of them show "MM" which means mute
[11:04] <aftertaf> brb
[11:04] <shoshe_> aftertaf: will i get any performance boost as well ?
[11:05] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I have already, just trying to figure out how to work hte program
[11:05] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[11:05] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[11:05] <shoshe_> aftertaf: okie dokie !
[11:05] <aftertaf> shoshe:  optimised ... o faster ;)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> frank_b: hit f1 for help, and use the keyboard
[11:05] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ah.. ok. got it.
[11:05] <shoshe_> aftertaf: thanks for the time dude .. appreciate it :)
[11:05] <mattyJ> im trying to install totem-xine but when i do it wants to remove rhythmbox, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> frank_b: nice, and mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense?
[11:06] <Stricklin> oops
[11:06] <Hobbsee> frank_b: hit m for them
[11:06] <LasseL> Cueball|Work, just rightclick the files in nautilus and select properties -> open with
[11:07] <Hobbsee> then hit q to quit, and test your sound again
[11:08] <Stricklin> It turns out I misread the error message anyway. It actually read, "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should [sic]  be owned by user and have 644 permissions."
[11:08] <LasseL> Hobbsee, careful, I got the same advice (to turn up the volume on everything) but in fact one very obscure sound channel had to be *muted* before my sound worked
[11:08] <Stricklin> So it wasn't talking about the entire /home directory, just that one file
[11:09] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I'll try to know more about the program then... thanks for your help.
[11:09] <erick> Ng how can i connect amule, there is no option for connect
[11:09] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I'll try also different things to see what happens
[11:10] <Hobbsee> LasseL: you bet, it was the headphone jack sense and the line jack sense?  that was the problem with mine
[11:10] <Hobbsee> frank_b: no problems, did it end up working?
[11:10] <LasseL> frank_b, make sure you try to mute incomming channels, called stuff like "capture" or line in
[11:11] <LasseL> Hobbsee, mine was called some wierd code I didn't figure it out before I googled on the name of my chipset
[11:11] <Hobbsee> lol...that would be fun
[11:11] <Ng> erick: in the Servers tab, click the blue arrow at the top left, that gets a server list
[11:12] <Pshivers> lo, anyone using breezy here?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Pshivers: sure
[11:12] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok. got it. I'm just trying to figure out which ones are "haedphone" and "line"...
[11:12] <Hobbsee> frank_b: they're towards the end, just keep pressing the arrow keys...
[11:14] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok.
[11:14] <wizard> hey guys need some help, did some updates and now no sound... says i have sis snd card in system-> sound but i have sb 5.1.. whcih is on the list but when i chose it and close it goes back to sis
[11:14] <erick> Ng tnxs,
[11:15] <Hobbsee> wizard: you're sound is definetly turned up?
[11:15] <ericf> I want to make a backtrace of nautilus, but if I start it in gdb, then it quickly quits. It looks like it hands over control to another existing thread, and I try to kill nautilus but it automatically restarts. How to make a backtrace?
[11:15] <wizard> i can get sound to work in xmms if i manually chose alsa and sb .. but some SiS sound card is in the option list too.... in ghome's sound it defaults to the SiS card.. which i do not have
[11:15] <aftertaf> shoshe:  no pb :)
[11:15] <aftertaf> i get help here too...
[11:16] <hanno> Hi.
[11:16] <Stricklin> How do I correct this? "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File sould  be owned by user and have 644 permissions."
[11:16] <Ng> ericf: if you remove nautilus from your session and kill it, it should stop restarting itself automatically
[11:16] <Ng> ericf: then when you run it in gdb you should be on the main process
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> Stricklin, chmod and chown ...
[11:16] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  try in shell : chmod 644 .dmrc
[11:17] <aftertaf> failing that, rename it, remove the . and try again
[11:17] <winner> does anyone know how to lock in xterm that meta key sends escape?
[11:17] <Stricklin> I see... I reversed the 644 and the .dmrc
[11:18] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:18] <airtonix> aftertaf, howdy dude, still having probs with that pesky dekstop
[11:18] <patricka> hi all
[11:18] <winner> hey
[11:18] <aftertaf> grrrr..... airtonix
[11:18] <aftertaf> whats happening?
[11:18] <airtonix> woops
[11:18] <aftertaf> hi patricka
[11:18] <ericf> Ng: thanks, that's indeed what I want. But you mean System>preferences>sessions, right? I removed it there, but it keeps restarting
[11:18] <LasseL> Stricklin, I use 640 or even 600 in my home folder
[11:18] <patricka> my ubuntu desktop is fubar... need some help!
[11:19] <Hobbsee> patricka: more info needed
[11:19] <aftertaf> elaborate on fubar :)
[11:19] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: you dont know what fubar is lol?
[11:19] <Ng> ericf: hmm, did you hit Apply in that session editor?
[11:19] <aftertaf> i do
[11:19] <hanno> How do I use shared folders from other Windows boxes on the local net? I know that I can browse and copy files with Nautilus, but how do I open remote files from within applications (such as Gimp). KDE can do it (with KDE apps, though), but how do I do that in Gnome? Is there some shortcut to do "mount -t smbfs" from within Nautilus?
[11:19] <Stricklin> LasseL, I'm just doin' what it tells me... :)
[11:19] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: i thought you would have to!
[11:19] <wizard> hobb: i can get sound to work in xmms if i manually chose alsa and sb .. but some SiS sound card is in the option list too.... in ghome's sound it defaults to the SiS card.. which i do not have
[11:20] <patricka> i've got 7 dialogs popping up on gnome login. they all read more or less: "Error Failed to load image *fubar* Detailds: Unrecognized image file format". Seems to mainly be .png images.
[11:20] <Hobbsee> i dont use gnome or xmms, i'm not much help you you
[11:20] <ericf> Ng: hmpf, I should have seen that one myself. Thank you.
[11:20] <wizard> ok np thnx
[11:20] <sweet-redlip> hello
[11:20] <airtonix> aftertaf, after sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i get the response : counldnt find package ubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <aftertaf> airtonix:  that sux.
[11:21] <Hobbsee> airtonix: that's weird, that's definetly the name of that package
[11:21] <aftertaf> have you changed your sources.list?
[11:21] <patricka> (various desktop icons are just a red cross)
[11:21] <wickedpuppy> airtonix, i can confirm thats the exact name ... i just searched
[11:21] <shoshe_> aftertaf: ok .. its installed .. what do i do now ?
[11:21] <Hobbsee> wickedpuppy: same here :P
[11:21] <aftertaf> patricka:  ahh.... gnome pbs are not my specialty.
[11:22] <airtonix> great, i may have to reinstall
[11:22] <Hobbsee> lol...another kubuntu user aftertaf
[11:22] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok...... reboot. and make sure you choose the k7 kernel.
[11:22] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  indeed i am.
[11:22] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[11:22] <ubotu> fvwm is much better than xfce!
[11:22] <Hobbsee> LOL
[11:22] <patricka> aftertaf: thanks for trying
[11:22] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I'm not being successfull, but it's ok. I'm going to repartition this hard drive today anyway. I was just trying to see if it was a simple problem or not. Thanks for your help.
[11:22] <shoshe_> aftertaf: do i need to make any change in the grub list ... or will it come automatically ?
[11:22] <vengeful> no way...xfce is better
[11:22] <aftertaf> everyone has the right to choose, and i choose !=Gnome
[11:23] <Hobbsee> frank_b: no problems, check google with the name of your card
[11:23] <shoshe_> aftertaf: okie dokie .. here goes nothing !!
[11:23] <vengeful> just thought id join in
[11:23] <aftertaf> shoshe:  automagical kernel detection ;)
[11:23] <aftertaf> vengeful:  :)
[11:23] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok. thanks.
[11:23] <frank_b> bye
[11:23] <Stricklin> Okay, I changed it to 644 and still got the alert when I logged in...
[11:23] <aftertaf> shoshe:  good luck ;)
[11:23] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  are you the owner?
[11:23] <airtonix> aftertaf, Hobbsee , should i be setting something up to get gnome running?
[11:23] <Stricklin> Hmmmm
[11:23] <aftertaf> chown.
[11:24] <aftertaf> airtonix:  yep... kubuntu-desktop ;)
[11:24] <Hobbsee> airtonix: you're aware that you're asking 2 kubuntu users?
[11:24] <aftertaf> :)
[11:24] <Hobbsee> ROFL @ aftertaf
[11:24] <airtonix> jack-, k or g is good
[11:24] <airtonix> arrrr bloody tab completeion
[11:24] <airtonix> and gesticular dyslexia
[11:25] <airtonix> i'll give kubuntu-desktop a go
[11:25] <patricka> (i've got all the dialogs open, and can send a screenshot if it helps.)
[11:25] <aftertaf> heheh
[11:25] <aftertaf> kubuntu +1 :)
[11:25] <airtonix> arrrrr same thing
[11:25] <airtonix> no packages
[11:25] <aftertaf> airtonix:  pastebin your soreces.list
[11:26] <aftertaf> erf me too
[11:26] <airtonix> might take me a while to find it
[11:26] <aftertaf> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:26] <aftertaf> no it wont ;)
[11:26] <Stricklin> Okay, let's see if that fixes it
[11:26] <airtonix> aftertaf, by pastebin, i vaguely remeber someone saying asomething about a website?
[11:26] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[11:26] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:26] <airtonix> aftertaf, oh cheers the path
[11:26] <aftertaf> :D
[11:27] <patricka> ubotu: thanks
[11:27] <ubotu> patricka: bitte
[11:27] <airtonix> nice one
[11:27] <aftertaf> StrikeForce:  what is the .dmrc file actually for?
[11:27] <wickedpuppy> Digital Management Right Config
[11:27] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:27] <aftertaf> lol
[11:27] <airtonix> aftertaf, whats this about !pastebin, is it a irc command?
[11:27] <aftertaf> !bot
[11:27] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to aftertaf? I think not. Bot, shot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[11:28] <shoshe> aftertaf ok .. i reboot and back with the same thing :S .. X dosent start !
[11:28] <aftertaf> ubotu is a bot..... the ! gets him to reply to things in his KB
[11:28] <ubotu> aftertaf: Wish i knew
[11:28] <airtonix> ohhhhh right
[11:28] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. lets get into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file then....... whats the error msg again? glx still?
[11:29] <aftertaf> !ati
[11:29] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:29] <Hobbsee> lol...someone had fun creating the commands for that bot...
[11:29] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ^^^^
[11:29] <shoshe> aftertaf yup .. the same glx thing
[11:29] <rob^> got a laptop with an Radeon Xpress 200M video card. I have the 3d drivers going, but can't get a resolution above 1024x768 despite editing the xorg.conf file. Any suggestions?
[11:30] <N6REJ> why does it keep kicking me?
[11:30] <Stricklin> No, it still does it
[11:30] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  hmm... what is the .dmrc file a config file for?
[11:31] <airtonix> aftertaf, can i from the linux prompt send you the source list from there
[11:31] <airtonix> aftertaf, for i am currently chatting from a winxp mcahine
[11:31] <ColonelKernel> cmon breezy stable
[11:31] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:31] <airtonix> aftertaf, bad yes
[11:31] <damo21> 4 days! i cant wait that long
[11:31] <aftertaf> airtonix:  are you on breezy or hoary? i think i asked you..... :/
[11:32] <aftertaf> damo21:  dont.
[11:32] <aftertaf> do it now :)
[11:32] <airtonix> aftertaf, hoary
[11:32] <damo21> i have preview
[11:32] <aftertaf> me2 damo21
[11:32] <aftertaf> :)
[11:32] <aftertaf> airtonix:
[11:32] <Stricklin> aftertaf, last environment used
[11:32] <Hobbsee> damo21: just install it then
[11:32] <aftertaf> oops sorry.... annoying to do that. !
[11:32] <bob2> N6REJ: you've been removed from the irc server because your IRC client is crap
[11:32] <bob2> N6REJ: stop using bitchx
[11:32] <shoshe> aftertaf any suggestions then ? :D
[11:32] <aftertaf> lol bob2 to the point ;)
[11:32] <damo21> how? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:32] <aftertaf> airtonix:  hang on ill post you mine ;)
[11:33] <bob2> damo21: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[11:33] <damo21> :)
[11:33] <aftertaf> shoshe:  open your xorg.conf file.......
[11:33] <shoshe> aftertaf opened ..
[11:33] <Stricklin> Googling tells me it should be 755
[11:33] <erick> Guys is mp3 supported by music player
[11:34] <Stricklin> N6REJ, what client was he using?
[11:34] <bob2> erick: sure
[11:34] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok.
[11:34] <airtonix> aftertaf, cheers dude, spose i just replace the contents of mine with that or do i append it?
[11:35] <aftertaf> replace .... put yours in comments though ;)
[11:35] <N6REJ> bob2: I'm not using Bitchx, I'm using chatzilla in Firefox!
[11:35] <patricka> okay, screenshot of icon hell: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2963
[11:35] <Hobbsee> patricka: that's weird!  which version are you on?
[11:35] <patricka> this was a bitch to create as the screenshot function is no longer working (had to use the gimp screen grab)
[11:35] <erick> bob2, how can I add plugin in my music player to support mp3
[11:35] <N6REJ> I wasn't even saying anything for at least the last 40 minutes
[11:35] <patricka> 5.04
[11:36] <airtonix> aftertaf, oh other thing
[11:36] <N6REJ> Stricklin: did I do something wrong?
[11:36] <aftertaf> shoshe:  can you get PMs from your console irc?
[11:36] <damo21> what command can i run to find out version info?
[11:36] <Stricklin> They talk about my problem here, too bad I can't read German (http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/7125/Strange-Error--dmrc-fehler--geloest.html)
[11:36] <bob2> N6REJ: there you go then, it's broken
[11:36] <bob2> erick: gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:36] <aftertaf> damo21:  [command]  -v
[11:36] <bob2> erick: (install it)
[11:36] <airtonix> aftertaf, i did a sudo apt-get install gnome
[11:36] <patricka> Hobbsee: up to date packages on everything
[11:36] <katzor> hi guys, i get a configure error when trying to build edb from enlightenment cvs : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[11:36] <katzor> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[11:36] <damo21> i mean, version of ubuntu
[11:36] <N6REJ> bob2: ok, broken how?  I don't understand.... whats happening?
[11:36] <Stricklin> N6REJ, I was just reading where they kicked you because of your client, and I wondered what it was
[11:36] <shoshe> aftertaf umm i dont think so .. im using BX
[11:36] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:36] <bob2> N6REJ: the irc server thinks you're flooding it, so it booted you off
[11:36] <airtonix> and it tells me that package gnome has no installation candidate
[11:36] <bob2> katzor: install build-essential
[11:37] <katzor> :-)
[11:37] <aftertaf> airtonix:  did you do apt-get update first?
[11:37] <N6REJ> bob2: what do I do? I don't know what to tell firefox people LOL
[11:37] <airtonix> yep
[11:37] <erick> bob2 thanks I will try using synaptic manager
[11:37] <aftertaf> odd!
[11:37] <melvztechie> hello guys, what the command when i want to remove some packages files?
[11:37] <airtonix> mosrt verly
[11:37] <bob2> melvztechie: how did you install them?
[11:37] <Stricklin> Apparently, my problem is one common to Breezy users
[11:37] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. go to the Section Module  part
[11:37] <bob2> N6REJ: just don't use it, or don't do whatever you did
[11:38] <bob2> N6REJ: the irc server thinks you flooded *something*, but it's not this channel
[11:38] <melvztechie> got full space again my HD, got to free up some space
[11:38] <katzor> bob2, thanks, works now!
[11:38] <aftertaf> shoshe:  and put a # in front of the glx line and the dri line
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> melvztechie, you can do so from synaptic ...
[11:38] <N6REJ> bob2: ok, should I use MIRC?
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> N6REJ, are you using windows ?
[11:38] <Stricklin> Oh well, it doesn't seem to really effect anything, except to bother me
[11:38] <N6REJ> yes
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> yes ... mirc would be my choice
[11:38] <bob2> N6REJ: wtf
[11:38] <N6REJ> k, back in a bit... I'm really sorry guys....
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> how to use bitchx in windows ?
[11:39] <bob2> N6REJ: it doesn't affect us at all, use whatever you want
[11:39] <shoshe> aftertaf ok... putting # infront of emm .. should i try starting X ?
[11:39] <bob2> wickedpuppy: use irssi in cygwin, or just ssh to a unix machine
[11:39] <N6REJ> I'm not wicked, I'm using chatzilla
[11:39] <melvztechie> can i do it on command line?
[11:39] <N6REJ> I'm really sorry guys, I didn't mean to mess things up.
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> heh ... i don't get it ... well nvm
[11:39] <N6REJ> be back in a bit.
[11:39] <aftertaf> shoshe:  not yet.... change the driver to "vesa"...... to test X with just std drivers first.
[11:40] <morten0609> sorry I'm new to IRC, but I need help with a problem in Ubuntu concerning web browsing?
[11:40] <wickedpuppy> melvztechie, apt-get remove package
[11:40] <bob2> melvztechie: how did you install them to begin with?
[11:40] <bob2> melvztechie: then just ask
[11:40] <Hobbsee> morten0609: dont ask to ask, just ask - it's one of the best ways to use irc
[11:40] <bob2> morten0609: just ask...
[11:40] <shoshe> aftertaf done !
[11:40] <aftertaf> ok. try startx
[11:40] <morten0609> hehe okay, sorry - did not know if I was at the right place
[11:41] <melvztechie> thanks wickedpuppy and bob2, just worked it by apt-get clean;)
[11:41] <Hobbsee> morten0609:  if you are, we'll tell you
[11:41] <morten0609> here goes: some web pages look all messy when I browse on my Ubuntu machine, but look fine in Windows - with the same browsers
[11:41] <wickedpuppy> clean ?? that doesn't remove any package ... that just clean the local repo
[11:42] <bob2> wickedpuppy: which can save a huge amount of space
[11:42] <wickedpuppy> morten0609, examples pls ? one site will do ... and i assume you use ff on both ?
[11:42] <bob2> wickedpuppy: my apt package cache would be in the gigabytes if I hadn't clean it
[11:42] <morten0609> okay - here's a Danish site: www.bogguiden.dk
[11:42] <wickedpuppy> bob2, ah k ... whaaa ... i better go do it now
[11:43] <morten0609> the text on the left column should be white, but it's dark blue on ubuntu
[11:43] <wickedpuppy> messy alright ....
[11:43] <patricka> damo21: try System | about Ubuntu
[11:43] <wickedpuppy> morten0609, on windows you are using firefox as well ?
[11:44] <shoshe> aftertaf no luck ! it says  "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":
[11:44] <morten0609> yes
[11:44] <morten0609> same problem on mozilla and epiphany
[11:44] <shoshe> aftertaf No Symbols Found !!
[11:44] <wickedpuppy> same version ?
[11:44] <morten0609> using breezy
[11:44] <morten0609> yes
[11:44] <Stricklin> I should go back to bed. I'm driving 200 miles later today.
[11:44] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: ouch
[11:44] <morten0609> same version 1.0.7
[11:44] <aftertaf> libfb. framebuffer.
[11:45] <Stricklin> Eh, Shreveport to Dallas
[11:45] <katzor> morten0609, same problem here with breezy
[11:45] <morten0609> alright - it's not just me then
[11:45] <Stricklin> I've done it so many times I could do it in my sleep. The problem is, I have. ;)
[11:45] <wickedpuppy> heh .. could you submit this bug to firefox devs ???
[11:45] <morten0609> could it be a problem with css?
[11:45] <ThePyromaniac> wow! i got my ogg vorbis files coming out at around 30megs! is this normal?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> morten0609: for some reason, that page is different for mac and windows, it doesnt mention linux
[11:46] <ThePyromaniac> im ripping from CD on quality 1
[11:46] <aftertaf> shoshe:  have you tried the howto on the wiki for ATI?
[11:46] <wickedpuppy> i rather think css should be same in windows or linux ??
[11:46] <morten0609> sorry - what does not mention linux?
[11:46] <Stricklin> Bye
[11:46] <Hobbsee> the page source
[11:46] <ThePyromaniac> anyone ripped ogg vorbis files from CD?
[11:47] <shoshe> aftertaf nops !
[11:47] <katzor> ThePyromaniac, yes SoundJuicer is installed by default and works well
[11:47] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: those files are way too big
[11:47] <ThePyromaniac> katzor damn right it does, my query is this. i was ripping to ogg vorbis files with quality one for a while, and suddenly my files are 30 megs!
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> i was using quality = 1 and they were averaging 4-7 megs
[11:48] <morten0609> this really bugs me cuz I design web pages
[11:48] <shoshe> aftertaf looks like im in for another reinstall :D !!
[11:48] <N6REJ> ok, I'm back.... is this better?
[11:48] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: abcde works great for that
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> now suddenly 15-30!
[11:48] <melvztechie> wickedpuppy: Yup i just need to free up some space, am allready full with packages:D
[11:48] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. could help........ no need to reinstall :)
[11:48] <katzor> ThePyromaniac, funny are you on breezy?
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 in what way is it better than SJ? ^^
[11:48] <aftertaf> shoshe:  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> katzor yes
[11:48] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: I can run it on my desktop via ssh ;)
[11:48] <N6REJ> bob2: is that better?
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 cool ^^
[11:48] <bob2> N6REJ: you getting kicked doesn't affect anyone but you
[11:49] <aftertaf> cold, but true^
[11:49] <aftertaf> but cold ;)
[11:49] <shoshe> aftertaf thats already installed ... the latest one
[11:49] <N6REJ> bob2: but its still not cool... it could've gotten me banned eventually right?
[11:49] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:49] <morten0609> the font size is also way too big and the links are supposed to be black according to css and not blue
[11:49] <ThePyromaniac> bug ahoy, if SJ freezes i gotta restart linux to open it again!
[11:49] <katzor> ThePyromaniac, mhh, i ripped a cd 5 mins ago and the whole directory is just 60 megs
[11:49] <morten0609> (I did not design the site, though)
[11:49] <ThePyromaniac> katzor i got 10 songs at 160megs! lol
[11:50] <aftertaf> shoshe:  Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx"
[11:50] <shoshe> aftertaf that was already done when i installed the drivers :D
[11:50] <morten0609> you guys think this is a breezy bug?
[11:50] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: killing the sj process is not enough? rebooting seems a bit over the top
[11:50] <syrra> ah, hello
[11:50] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok.
[11:51] <bob2> N6REJ: I don't know, perhaps the server would have k-lined you
[11:51] <N6REJ> for anyone thats interested I updated the ndiswrapper wiki to reflect the broadcom 4306 chipset
[11:51] <ThePyromaniac> topyli i use force quit button, i dont know a better way
[11:51] <chris123> hi... does anybody know something about that phtml package?
[11:51] <aftertaf> !ati
[11:51] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:51] <shoshe> aftertaf didnt worked with that as well .. just tried it .. lol !
[11:51] <katzor> :-) ThePyromaniac my SoundJuicer uses quality=0.5 and the files seem to be good
[11:52] <ThePyromaniac> ok, i go back to using 0.5
[11:52] <syrra> there are people in here, I'm so surprised. Lots of times these are empty. Anyway.. hello I have a question. : )
[11:52] <N6REJ> bob2: ok, well hopefully its fixed now.  Whatever it was.
[11:52] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: the process may still be there. take a look with "ps aux |grep juicer"
[11:52] <ThePyromaniac> yes it is
[11:53] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: note that that command will also display your grep process :)
[11:53] <Hobbsee> syrra: ubuntu's almost never empty, were you meaning one of the other channels?
[11:53] <Hobbsee> syrra: shoot
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> topyli it was ok, i did pkill and now it runs ^^
[11:53] <morten0609> wickedpuppy, katzor - any ideas how I should proceed with this - should I submit it as a bug?
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> it just needed to reset
[11:53] <shoshe> aftertaf the error also says " Could not init Font path element"
[11:54] <syrra> No, I meant irc channels that I find in general. And now... Yes, I need a mud client for Ubuntu. I'm on.. badger I think. Only one that works with this chip set. Or so I'm led to believe.
[11:54] <Hobbsee> ah right,
[11:54] <katzor> morten0609,  yes and try if opera or so do a better job
[11:54] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. sudo apt-get xfs.
[11:54] <Hobbsee> a mud client?
[11:54] <vengeful> gotta wonder where they think these names up
[11:54] <syrra> yes
[11:54] <syrra> I remember it coming with Gmud, but we had to reinstall because it was losing files
[11:54] <syrra> it seems to be ok now, though
[11:54] <goldmund> hi all! I have a problem regarging the sound system on Ubuntu Hoary. the problem is:
[11:55] <shoshe> aftertaf whats xfs ?
[11:55] <aftertaf> x font server
[11:55] <shoshe> o
[11:55] <tommi^> Hi. I'm trying to get tv-out working from my nvidia geforce 6200 with propierty drivers through svideo. I have managed to get it pretty fine with the how to but I'm lacking colors. What should I do? tia
[11:55] <goldmund> I listen to music ..using xmms, and if a friend sends me an audible on gaim ...them xmms is unable to play the next song in the playlist
[11:55] <syrra> and boyfriend hasn't given me root, so I can't do anything :/
[11:55] <tommi^> syrra, LOL
[11:55] <topyli> aftertaf: xfs is rarely needed
[11:56] <aftertaf> topyli:  yeah but reinstalling it helped me get x running when breezy was wobbly
[11:56] <syrra> after I wake him up enough times to fix something, we'll give it to me
[11:56] <syrra> he'll
[11:56] <Tomcat_> tommi^: Missing colors are usually a problem of the cable, not the software.
[11:56] <aftertaf> topyli:  you know how to help get X running  with ATI?
[11:56] <syrra> sorry, its early
[11:56] <Madpilot> syrra: your user doesn't have sudo privileges?
[11:56] <shoshe> aftertaf Done !
[11:56] <bob2> goldmund: tell xmms to use esound
[11:56] <syrra> uh, not that I can tell. I'm not sure what he gave me exactly
[11:56] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok, startx still gives you the symbols not found?
[11:56] <syrra> I tried to run synaptic and it aborted, I think
[11:57] <tommi^> Tomcat_, the color depth 24 should be correct? So I should triple check that cabling is properly attached?
[11:57] <Madpilot> syrra: when you try Synaptic, and enter your user password, it aborts?
[11:57] <topyli> aftertaf: my work box has an ati card. worked right out of the box. this is the work box, i don't need 3d on it
[11:57] <syrra> yeah, let me try again
[11:57] <aftertaf> syrra:  without rot rights, yeah... :/
[11:57] <shoshe> aftertaf yup .. preety much it !
[11:57] <ThePyromaniac> ahh thanks guys, same songs averaging 7-9 megs now, thanks
[11:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  what is the error again? cos i'm getting out of my depth here.....
[11:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  weve disabled dri & glx modules, and vesa wont load.....
[11:59] <syrra> so, anything I can do, or will I have to ask him to do it five or six times?
[11:59] <aftertaf> syrra:  you haxor his password, or ask him to give you sudo rights.
[11:59] <Jensendk_> hey.. i just installed breezy on my dell laptop latitude c640 and it does not seem to recognise any sound card - being a linux newb I have no idea to go from here - checked bugzilla and forums and nothing.. anyone can tell what direction to look in?
[11:59] <Madpilot> syrra: get him to give your user account sudo privileges, then you can change things
[11:59] <erick> bob2, how can I install gstreamer, can used apt-get?
[12:00] <tommi^> I highly doubt that the cabling is the problem. All cables are connected properly. From geforce with svideo cable to a scart adapter which connects to tv.
[12:00] <bob2> erick: yes...
[12:00] <bob2> erick: /msg ubotu restricted
[12:00] <syrra> :P He uses random number/letter strings. I don't know how he remembers them
[12:00] <aftertaf> shoshe:  this said, seem s that ATI with breezy works better..... :/
[12:00] <damo21> do Xorg 6.8.2-75 drivers work with ati better?
[12:00] <shoshe> aftertaf "Symbom drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/..... is unresolved
[12:00] <bob2> Jensendk_: why do you think it's not recognising it?
[12:00] <brownie17> can anyone help me find out why my windows xp partition isn't appearing
[12:00] <aftertaf> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and resetting your config. reenable glx & dri too.
[12:00] <Jensendk_> because its claiming that i have no sound card :)
[12:01] <brownie17> aftertaf, do you think maybe re-installing windows might make it work?
[12:01] <syrra> anyway, I have to go to class, thanks for your help guys
[12:01] <tommi^> Tomcat_, are there any xorg.conf options that I should try out?
[12:01] <Jensendk_> checked that system configuration thing + breezy showed an icon in the upper right corner saying it could not find a sound card
[12:01] <bob2> Jensendk_: what is?
[12:01] <ormandj> damo21, i run ati drivers with my 9800 pro using the breezy ati drivers (fglrx)
[12:01] <bob2> Jensendk_: paste the output of "lspci" to #flood
[12:01] <ormandj> and get ~4500 fps in glxgears
[12:01] <damo21> Ohhh
[12:01] <Jensendk_> 2 secs
[12:01] <damo21> :)
[12:01] <ormandj> using the xorg drivers
[12:02] <ormandj> i get like 700 fps
[12:02] <Jensendk_> need to boot up the laptop
[12:02] <damo21> NIICE
[12:02] <ormandj> so, fglrx is much better
[12:02] <bob2> glxgears is not a benchmark tool
[12:02] <bob2> at all
[12:02] <bob2> ever
[12:02] <ormandj> albiet still way behind nvidia
[12:02] <bob2> in any universe
[12:02] <ormandj> bob2, yea, i know, hence -iacknowledgeblahblah
[12:02] <vengeful> ok bob..calm down lol
[12:02] <vengeful> hehe
[12:02] <ormandj> but i can barely get 40fps in cs:source using ati 9800 pro
[12:02] <ormandj> but my gf4600 gets 60+
[12:02] <ormandj> so :)
[12:02] <damo21> okay,
[12:03] <damo21> so fglrx it is
[12:03] <ormandj> if you want 3d in linux, use nvidia. if you have ati 8500+, use fglrx
[12:03] <ormandj> but nvidia will still be much much better
[12:03] <brownie17> can anyone help me find out why my windows xp partition isn't appearing in GRUB?
[12:03] <ormandj> end of topic ;)
[12:04] <erick> bob2, Im sorry i dont get your point, can I used  apt-get to install gstreamer
[12:04] <damo21> yeah, so what about composite translucency with ati card in linux... is that just out of the question?
[12:04] <Hobbsee> brownie17: maybe, post your grub list?
[12:04] <Hobbsee> in pastebin, that is
[12:05] <ormandj> damo21, no idea. i do know the ati drivers have no shader support though
[12:05] <feugan3333> Hi all. When trying to add a samba printer using the wizard. The user name is never stored. ie I enter the username,click on close,open the properties for the printer and the username is back to "". Is this a bug, or am I doing something stupid?
[12:05] <damo21> :(
[12:05] <shoshe> aftertaf lol .. no luck .. i even installed the driver again and did a fglrxconfig and no luck .. something Serious is out there in my system LD
[12:05] <ormandj> shoshe: just install fglrx and reconfigure xorg
[12:05] <N6REJ> bob2: do you know what my router would get a null response for hostname from my server?
[12:06] <shoshe> i better do a backup of downloaded stuff as well befre that vanishes
[12:06] <ormandj> don't bother with fglrxconfig
[12:06] <bob2> erick: sure you can
[12:06] <bob2> erick: go read the wiki page
[12:06] <bob2> N6REJ: your question is lacking important information
[12:06] <ormandj> i seriously suggest ebaying whatever ATI stuff you have and picking up nvidia stuff if you want 3d on linux though.
[12:07] <Jensendk_> bob2, done
[12:07] <Jensendk_> pasted in flood
[12:07] <bob2> N6REJ: do you mean "do you know why my router's caching nameserver would give NXDOMAIN when querying a hostname in a domain hosted on a remote server?"?
[12:07] <brownie17> Hobbsee, pm?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> brownie17: sure
[12:07] <bob2> Jensendk_: how old is it?
[12:07] <Jensendk_> the laptop? - 3 years I belive
[12:07] <shoshe> aftertaf thanks for the time .. ill c what else i can do for it :) ! ciao
[12:08] <N6REJ> bob2:ok, let me try to reask.... I have a belkin wireless router.  From it there are several wireless clients and then my hardwired server.  All nat'd.  From each of the wireless machines it gets the machine name no problem, but from my ubuntu server it doesn't.  It has the mac address but the name is null.
[12:09] <damo21> im thinking i'll sell my ATI radeon 9800pro
[12:09] <bob2> Jensendk_: appears to have ISA sound
[12:09] <N6REJ> oh boy
[12:09] <damo21> what would be a roughly equivalent nvidia card?
[12:10] <Jensendk_> bob2, meaning I should go about looking for what and where to sort it? (or lemme refrase: where would you look for info on fixing it)
[12:10] <damo21> which nvidia card has the best 3d support in linux?
[12:10] <bob2> Jensendk_: I don't know; I'd try http://linux-laptop.net/ to see if it has any details on your laptop which might explain how to get it work magically
[12:11] <Jensendk_> ok thanks ;)
[12:11] <topyli> the strangest thing is my matrox g550 doesn't have acceleration right now. it was always one of the best supported cards :(
[12:11] <Jensendk_> thats a starting place
[12:11] <bob2> I'm pretty sure the g550 always required binary modules for 3d acceleration
[12:12] <erick> bob2 thanks
[12:13] <topyli> bob2: i think the xfree/xorg mga driver did have acceleration in the past. it's been a while since i actually used the proprietary driver. might try though, once i get to the machine
[12:14] <topyli> bob2: i might be wrong too :)
[12:14] <MTommy> Hello everyone ^^'b
[12:15] <damo21> what does DRI -> Mode "0666" mean in xorg.conf?
[12:16] <erick> bob2, what is work?
[12:17] <bob2> damo21: that anyone can use DRI
[12:17] <bob2> erick: ?
[12:17] <N6REJ> g'morning top
[12:17] <damo21> ohhhh permissions ;)
[12:17] <erick> bob2, what is work? what is source of income?
[12:17] <bob2> for me? I'm not working atm.
[12:18] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 is breezy safe to use now or should i wait?
[12:18] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: can you deal with things perhaps breaking, then file useful bug reports?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> erick: that's profanity, and not to be used anywhere
[12:18] <Hobbsee> erick: :P
[12:19] <erick> k Hobbsee
[12:19] <Hobbsee> erick: :P i was joking :P
[12:19] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 um no i do not feel that my ability to use linux is up to par to submit bug reports
[12:19] <bettong_BOFH> as i have tryed with it in the past before pre release
[12:19] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: then I'd wait
[12:19] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[12:19] <erick> is webmin available for ubuntu
[12:20] <bettong_BOFH> although my initial impression of breezy is that it rocks and alot of the hoary bugs seem to be fixed
[12:20] <bob2> erick: yes
[12:20] <bob2> it's best to avoid it if at all possible, tho
[12:20] <HrdwrBob> breezy is pretty good now
[12:20] <erick> bob2. k try research for that
[12:20] <brownie17> Hobbsee, it didn't work
[12:20] <erick> bob2 your right
[12:20] <topyli> erick: "work" is the causing of motion against a resisting force. "source of income" is the goodwill of a capitalist
[12:21] <brownie17> Hobbsee, i think it is not a grub problem but a windows probelme
[12:21] <bettong_BOFH> i just can't deal with certain things breaking as i run a teamspeak server and it seemed to not function under breezy
[12:21] <jimjawn> Hey eveyrone.  I've been having problems recently with the ubuntu-backports repository.  Getting a bunch of 404 errors.  Did something change recently that anyone knows of?
[12:21] <bob2> that's almost certainly a teamspeak issue
[12:21] <bettong_BOFH> thats what i'd think too
[12:21] <bob2> jimjawn: you need to talk to them on the forums
[12:21] <talios> jimjawn, it was taken down
[12:21] <talios> afaik
[12:21] <bettong_BOFH> but in horey it works fine
[12:21] <bob2> since apparently they don't actually do IRC support
[12:22] <N6REJ> bob2: I read that because webmin rely's on root permission to perform its functions it doesn't work well in ubuntu
[12:22] <jimjawn> okay.  Cool thatnks for the tip.
[12:22] <bob2> N6REJ: that would be incorrect
[12:22] <topyli> N6REJ: you can simply set a webmin root password equal to yours
[12:23] <N6REJ> bob2: I dl'd it from the package list and all the modules were gone but the basic.  When I tried to add modules it said it needed module /proc
[12:23] <N6REJ> this was for breezy.
[12:23] <brownie17> bob2, is there a log of some sort that can tell me more about GRUB errors?
[12:23] <N6REJ> bob2: so I took it off.
[12:23] <bob2> N6REJ: if you say so
[12:23] <bob2> brownie17: not enough information
[12:23] <bob2> brownie17: at boot or grub-install-time?
[12:23] <bettong_BOFH> but just before i went back to horey i must say that the artwork for breezy was awsome and the boot screen a plus ^_^
[12:23] <bettong_BOFH> when it is running 100
[12:23] <brownie17> bob2, sorry, at boot. something that should be appearing in the menu isn't
[12:23] <bettong_BOFH> it will be a joy to use i am shure ^_^
[12:24] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: there will be no log then
[12:24] <bob2> brownie17: ^
[12:24] <bettong_BOFH> error log i wounder why that would be O_o
[12:25] <ericf> Hey, can somebody please try to reproduce http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17470 for me? It would be very nice if you would.
[12:25] <erick> is vpn avaulable for ubuntu? currently im using opnevpn on my fedora, plans to upgrade to ubuntu if its available
[12:25] <brownie17> bob2, ok thankyou. do you know anything about how i can find out why it isn't appearing?
[12:25] <bob2> erick: don't say "vpn" if you mean "openvpn", and yes, it is available
[12:25] <bob2> brownie17: why what isn't appearing?
[12:26] <erick> k bob2, how about poptop?
[12:26] <bob2> ericf: five levels of symlinks will make the kernel puke, if nothing else
[12:26] <bob2> erick: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <brownie17> bob2, windowsxp.  i definatly have the entry in my /boot/grub/menu.lst but it isn't available to boot.
[12:26] <erick> k thanks again
[12:26] <ericf> bob2: hmm, but the weird thing is that bash has no problems
[12:26] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 i have noticed a problem with my sound card
[12:26] <bob2> brownie17: did you run update-grub after editing it?
[12:26] <bob2> ericf: how did you make bash try to dereference them all?
[12:26] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: that's great
[12:27] <brownie17> bob2, no. do you mind explaining?
[12:27] <bob2> if you have a question about it, ask
[12:27] <bettong_BOFH> if i am running teamspeak then it has problems with playing flash sounds
[12:27] <bettong_BOFH> is there a way to fix this on a soundblaster live! 5.1 card?"
[12:27] <bettong_BOFH> are there speacal drivers for it?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> brownie17: in console, sudo upgrade-grub presumably
[12:27] <Hobbsee> seems to work
[12:28] <ericf> bob2: what exactly do you mean with "all of them"? I can just browse the directories in bash
[12:28] <N6REJ> topyli: I have a weird problem.  my belkin wireless router is acting as the firewall for everything here, and is providing nat.  All the client machines are seen fine in the dhcp client list with their machine names showing.... But the servers machine name is "null" but it does show the mac address.  What can I do to find the problem?
[12:28] <brownie17> Hobbsee, i am going in for a reboot
[12:29] <Hobbsee> k
[12:30] <tommi^> Tomcat_, it's not the cabling. I checked.
[12:30] <Tomcat_> tommi^: No idea then... these problems are a extremely hard to trace. I have had the same problem the last time I used S-Video, and I have no idea why I had it.
[12:30] <N6REJ> anyone have a idea?
[12:31] <tga> any idea how I can get my Alps touchpad to tap-and-drag?
[12:31] <tga> it's not doing it after upgrading to Breezy
[12:32] <bob2> ericf: then bash would not be dereferencing them at all, so it doesn't matter
[12:32] <tommi^> Tomcat_, yes. Thanks anyway. I did try the nvidia-settings and color saturation or something which was mentioned in one documentation as a black/white problem solver but it didn't work.
[12:32] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: don't use flash, tho it should just work
[12:33] <Tomcat_> tommi^: Has the cable ever worked with color?
[12:33] <tommi^> Tomcat_, just bought it.
[12:33] <Tomcat_> tommi^: Some cables are of inferior quality and lack enough wires to have color on laptops... they work only on some.
[12:33] <brownie17> bob2,  unsuccessful
[12:33] <brownie17> Hobbsee, unsuccessful
[12:33] <case^> s-video connection?
[12:33] <Tomcat_> tommi^: The easiest way to see if it's a software problem is unfortunately to see if it works in Windows. :)
[12:33] <tommi^> case^, yes
[12:34] <tommi^> Tomcat_, argh.
[12:34] <sueE> Hello, I have two soundcards in my system, how can I select wich one to use by default?
[12:34] <falcon3> hi, how do i install xine on ubuntu ?
[12:34] <tommi^> Tomcat_, well. I just might plug in the second hd which has xp sp2 installation.
[12:34] <case^> bridge chrom and lumi the top two sockets on the output cable
[12:34] <falcon3> apt-cache cant find it
[12:34] <sueE> I have triied multimedia selector
[12:34] <tommi^> case^, that should work?
[12:34] <case^> with a bit of wire and you'll get colour
[12:34] <sueE> but I cannot select preferred output device
[12:34] <case^> yes
[12:34] <Hobbsee> falcon: tried sudo apt-get install xine?
[12:34] <case^> I'm watching futurmama in colour with that hack
[12:35] <falcon3> Hobbsee: yes
[12:35] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[12:35] <sueE> any ideas guys?
[12:35] <tommi^> case^, sounds kinda risky. It should be really thing wire to fit in..
[12:35] <Hobbsee> where's xine gone?
[12:35] <case^> yes bell wire works pretty well
[12:35] <Hobbsee> anyone know why xine is not in the repositories?
[12:35] <olicat> sueE, right click the volume applet on the panel, open volume control, then select the device in the file menu
[12:36] <wickedpuppy> Hobbsee, xine is
[12:36] <N6REJ> guess nobody has the answer *sigH*
[12:36] <olicat> sueE, or use the "Sound" applet, in the preferences menu
[12:36] <ccooke> hobbsee: You need to install gzine
[12:36] <ccooke> er. gxine
[12:37] <ccooke> or xine-ui
[12:37] <Hobbsee> falcon: see what ccooke said
[12:37] <falcon3> yea
[12:37] <ccooke> Both of which are in universe
[12:37] <falcon3> but he cant install that either
[12:37] <sueE> ah, ok i see
[12:37] <tommi^> case^,  are there any website which would have instructions that would backup your advice. I really appreciate your help, but I'm a poor student who can't afford to have dead videocards.
[12:37] <falcon3> and i'm using KDE on ubuntu
[12:37] <sueE> I'd expect that in multimedia selecter somehow :)
[12:37] <case^> I trust my x800xl with this hack
[12:37] <Hobbsee> falcon3: what do you want xine for?  use kaffiene?
[12:38] <olicat> sueE, it's pretty inconsistent i guess
[12:38] <erick> bob2, what is the best antivirus for ubuntu
[12:38] <case^> it's atrick I got told from a friend but it's up to you
[12:38] <bob2> erick: you're very unlikely to need one
[12:38] <lux`> -_-
[12:38] <ccooke> falcon3: sudo apt-get install xine-ui fails, you say?
[12:38] <bob2> erick: just don't run random crap from the internet and you'll be fine
[12:38] <wickedpuppy> erick, if you reallllllllllllllly must have anti-virus , there is clam av
[12:38] <falcon3> ccooke: hold on
[12:38] <sueE> well, thanks anyways, sometimes I just don't look enough I guess
[12:38] <falcon3> ccooke: yes
[12:39] <signius> Is it worth me waiting 4 days for the official release of Breezy or am i just as well to do the 5.10 RC now thats available for download ?
[12:39] <erick> bob2, you mean no nid for antivirus?how about if I going to used ubuntu for my email server?
[12:39] <sueE> by any means, would you have an idea how I can play an 'mms' stream in the totemplayer?
[12:39] <ccooke> falcon3: then you probably don't have the universe repository enable.d
[12:39] <erick> clamav is theanswer?
[12:39] <falcon3> ccooke: that is so fucky :(
[12:39] <sueE> I have this radiostation I want to listen to, but it is like this: mms://mms.studios.tiscali.nl/StreamGate48
[12:39] <ccooke> !Tell falcon3 about repositories
[12:39] <bob2> erick: if you're filtering mail for windows machines, clamav and amavis is a good choice
[12:39] <aftertaf> sueE:  tried vlc?
[12:39] <bob2> erick: it is kinda cpu-intensive, tho (ie it won't run on your old pentium)
[12:39] <tommi^> case^, ok, thanks. Maybe I'll try it when find suitable wire.
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> if you really must have anti virus ... and as bob2 said you probably won't need it unless you use root account for surfing net...
[12:40] <sueE> vlc? no
[12:40] <fraser_> brownie17,  i guess no-one can help you with your problem then, but it is a dissapointment
[12:40] <case^> np
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> sueE, videolan.org
[12:40] <sueE> ok, thanks.
[12:40] <erick> k, thanks again bob2
[12:40] <fraser_> brownie17, i don't think anyone here really cares
[12:40] <brownie17> anyone feel like giving me some basic assitance in compiling teamspeak?
[12:40] <ccooke> falcon3: Ubuntu ships with only the repositories that are fully supported enabled.
[12:40] <case^> I'm off to to do something useful with this system, enjoy using linux!
[12:41] <ccooke> falcon3: there is no way they could support the seventeen and a half thousand packages in the entire set of repositories
[12:41] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, teamspeak ?? i don't think its in the repo right ??
[12:41] <ccooke> falcon3: and many people won't need them.
[12:41] <ccooke> falcon3: It is, however, very easy to add them in
[12:42] <bob2> erick: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ looks useful
[12:42] <falcon3> thx ccooke
[12:42] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, it's not, that's why i need help compiling it
[12:42] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, in that case it should have a README or INSTALL file
[12:43] <brownie17> yeah probably
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> the answer to your question is probably there
[12:44] <tga> what can I use to make a short movie out of a series of photos?
[12:44] <sueE> there's no download link for ubuntu, is debian ok too for vlc?
[12:44] <Madpilot> sueE: VLC is in the Ubuntu repos...
[12:45] <sueE> oh, ok...
[12:45] <sueE> can I just do it with synaptic? ( i searched for vlc already in synaptic)
[12:45] <wickedpuppy> tga ... i assume you want slideshow >>
[12:45] <tga> wickedpuppy, all movies are basically slideshows, so yeah
[12:46] <damg> sueE, apt-get install vlc
[12:46] <brownie17> bob2, i just installed teampeak 2 rc2 via the install script on the website, but now how do i run it? teampeak is not a recognised command
[12:46] <robin> i go for lunch
[12:46] <brownie17> bob2, do you know?
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, doesn't the site tell ya how ?? can gimme the site ?
[12:47] <sueE> er, i guess that is a sudo commando?
[12:47] <aftertaf> sueE:  or synaptic, yeah... you can get the gtk frontend for it too...
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> yes sueE
[12:47] <aftertaf> sueE:  apt, yeah, needs sudo.
[12:47] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, www.goteamspeak.com
[12:47] <Kaali> Is there a way to install Breezer-RC on a ATARAID system that has already been partitoned on another distro (kernel 2.4) that supports ATARAID. The install CD does not seem to have dmraid which should be used with 2.6 kernels i presume.
[12:48] <isam> I just upgraded from sid/etch to 5.10 (I know you don't recommend that, but I really didn't want to have a full installtion). I am having problems with udev
[12:48] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, it seems like a windows prog] 
[12:48] <aftertaf> Kaali:  you certain about that?
[12:48] <aftertaf> isam:  what type?
[12:48] <wickedpuppy> oh there is also linux
[12:48] <Kaali> One half of the RAID is partitioned for Windows and the other for Linux. If i can't get Breezy to support ATARAID will i break my HD if i use the partitions directly without the ATARAID(hard-soft RAID)
[12:49] <Kaali> aftertaf: Certain about?
[12:49] <isam> so I did something stupid such as rm -rf /etc/udev/* and thought that an "apt-get --reinstall install udev hal" would fix it
[12:49] <aftertaf> the dmraid thing.....    thought i saw some stuff in ubuntu that supporetd that.
[12:49] <isam> but it seems that a reinstall for a package doesn't replace the files
[12:49] <pitti> isam: no, since these are considered as configuration files
[12:49] <isam> pitti: is there a way to regenerate them ?
[12:49] <Tirno> Hi, when I booted 5mn ago, I logged in and the task bar crashed (with error message). I logged out and in again, the whole login crashed (no message). I reboot and login and there just aren't any "windows" in the taskbar (no message). How do I tell ubuntu to attempt to start the task bar again? alt-tab works, but I have lost the workspace manager
[12:49] <aftertaf> isam:  oops ... :/
[12:49] <Kaali> aftertaf: Well, i couldn't find it when going to the shell on the install CD.
[12:50] <pitti> isam: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/udev*.deb should do the trick
[12:50] <isam> I tried dpkg-reconfigure
[12:50] <pitti> isam: (same for hal)
[12:50] <aftertaf> Tirno:  try rerunning kicker
[12:50] <Tirno> what is kicker?
[12:50] <LasseL> Kaali, I mounted my ataraid partitions just fine, but I didn't write to them, just got the data out so I could make a backup before installing ubuntu.
[12:50] <sueE> ok I tried the commando, it gives me E: Couldn't find package vlc
[12:50] <sueE> do I have to add something extra?
[12:50] <topyli> Tirno: gnome or kde?
[12:51] <Tirno> gnome
[12:51] <Madpilot> sueE: do you have the Universe and Multiverse repos enabled?
[12:51] <aftertaf> nope. what is name of package in synaptic?
[12:51] <sueE> er...
[12:51] <sueE> is that in synaptic somewhere?
[12:51] <aftertaf> Tirno:  eh... ok.
[12:51] <Madpilot> !+repos
[12:51] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:51] <Kaali> LasseL: Yup, they can be seen as normal partitions but writing on them messes things up. I'm running RAID1 so i was wondering if just writing on the other HD will mess up stuff or not.
[12:51] <Madpilot> sueE: see ubotu ^^^
[12:51] <aftertaf> sueE:  trp apt-cache search vlc
[12:52] <isam> thanks .. it worked.. I will restart now and see if things are fine..
[12:52] <Tirno> aftertaf: I'm comfortable with command line, I just have never done anything with window managers before
[12:52] <tga> any idea what I can use to make a short movie out of a series of photos?
[12:52] <LasseL> Kaali, I wouldn't do it, but that is just an uneducated guess
[12:52] <sueE> ah wait, I did 'add' in synaptic I can now find it
[12:52] <Madpilot> later, all... need sleep
[12:52] <Kaali> LasseL: Haven't dared to do it =)
[12:53] <aftertaf> :) Madpilot
[12:53] <aftertaf> Tirno:  i cant help with gnome, i dont know it.
[12:53] <sueE> ah, I need 'wxvlc' ?
[12:53] <aftertaf> yep.
[12:53] <topyli> Tirno: ok, so you're talking about gnome-panel. see if it's running
[12:54] <Tirno> yes
[12:54] <Tirno> it is
[12:54] <topyli> Tirno: do you have a panel at all?
[12:54] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, did you work out how to run it?
[12:55] <Tirno> yes - it has trash bottom right and show desktop bottom left
[12:55] <topyli> Tirno: then you can right click on an empty spot on the panel and add the window list applet
[12:56] <brownie17> bob2, is there a way i can find out where the run script for TS2 is stored?
[12:56] <Tirno> topyli: yay - I didn't realise it would be that easy
[12:56] <Tirno> thanks
[12:56] <huhmz> What exactly is this HP printing system thing that starts upp in the beginning? I though cups did all the printing bussiness?
[12:56] <topyli> Tirno: cool
[12:57] <aftertaf> huhmz:  yeah! i wondered too. dieactivated it ;)
[12:57] <brownie17> does anyone here use TEAMSPEAK?
[12:57] <huhmz> I'd like to know what the hell it is before i deactivate it
[12:57] <aftertaf> its a HP printing system thing ;)
[12:57] <huhmz> ive removed all the RAID/LVM/BlueTooth stuff though
[12:58] <huhmz> and added portmap and ssh
[12:58] <aftertaf> there you go...... do you have a hp printer/ All In One job?
[12:58] <aftertaf> !info portmap
[12:58] <DjKritical> Can anyone point me in the right direction... I think I've screwed up ubuntu while trying to upgrade from hoary->breezy using apt.... I have 70 gigs freespace and 130 gigs of data... can I resize the partitions somehow and do a fresh install of breezy somehow?
[12:58] <huhmz> i have a hp printer, best leave it running :)
[12:58] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  are you sure youve screwed it up?
[12:58] <intelikey> off hand anyone know a command to display the glibc version ?
[12:58] <aftertaf> huhmz:  hehe :)
[12:58] <huhmz> portmap makes mounting an nfs share not take 10 minutes
[12:58] <aftertaf> glibc -v?
[12:58] <aftertaf> hehe ok.
[12:59] <brownie17> is anyone familiar with TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu
[12:59] <bob2> brownie17: I don't know what TS2 is
[12:59] <bob2> oh
[12:59] <bob2> ask the vendor
[12:59] <lux`> brownie17
[12:59] <intelikey> glibc command not found aftertaf
[12:59] <huhmz> Don't know why portmap and ssh aren't installed and started by default
[12:59] <lux`> apt-get install polyaudio
[12:59] <aftertaf> hehe just tried that to.
[12:59] <erick> guys gtg thanks
[12:59] <lux`> and after
[12:59] <derFlo>  gcc -v ???
[12:59] <lux`> rm -rf /
[12:59] <brownie17> bob2, the vendor gives no information on starting the darn thing, just using it
[12:59] <bob2> huhmz: no network services by default
[12:59] <aftertaf> ssh maybe for the risk it can cause for newbs.
[12:59] <huhmz> i guess i can see ssh not installed since it's supposed to be a desktop mainly but no portmap?
[12:59] <bob2> huhmz: also, end-users don't want either
[12:59] <lux`> sudo rm -rf / <---- DO IT !!
[12:59] <brownie17> lux`, yes?
[12:59] <lux`> :D
[01:00] <DjKritical> aftertaf, well.. my fonts in firefox dont work, I get errors when xwindows starts... and the whole reason I upgraded was because I was told that the new 'multimedia device selector' included a function which lets you choose the default sound device... which I can't see
[01:00] <lux`> jn
[01:00] <lux`> DONT DO IT
[01:00] <bob2> lux`: that sort of thing is not a joke and never funny
[01:00] <Syruss> erk
[01:00] <aftertaf> lux`:  dont say that, even as a joke.
[01:00] <virginia> hi
[01:00] <huhmz> bob2: but surely portmap should be running, otherwise why even run the nfsmount init scripts?
[01:00] <DrTiger> is it possible to burn/erase dvd-rw s in k3b?
[01:00] <brownie17> bob2, did you just ban lux`  for that?
[01:00] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  try for now removing firefox......
[01:00] <derFlo> sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdc
[01:00] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  and you have errors with gnome?
[01:01] <Syruss> DON'T LISTEN TO derFlo
[01:01] <derFlo> hohoho
[01:01] <DrTiger> in the logs cdrecord says I have to buy a special version ...
[01:01] <DjKritical> aftertaf, not really
[01:01] <Ng> 12 year olds, woo ;)
[01:01] <joefish> Hi, anyone able to help a newbie with a grub problem?
[01:01] <derFlo> just another method
[01:01] <Syruss> btw, I would have used /dev/urandom
[01:01] <DjKritical> aftertaf, I had to reinstall xfonts-base just to get x to load tho!
[01:01] <Syruss> otherwise it's more recoverable
[01:01] <Syruss> :p
[01:01] <brownie17> joefish, i will help if i can
[01:01] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  i had that too
[01:01] <joefish> thx brownie17
[01:01] <aftertaf> the xserver fonts thing
[01:02] <DjKritical> aftertaf, I manually edited the xorg conf file... and it didn't update during the upgrade
[01:02] <bob2> huhmz: I don't know
[01:02] <brownie17> joefish, don't thank me yet! what is the problem? PM?
[01:02] <bob2> derFlo: no, do not do that again
[01:02] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  you can dpkg-reconfigure it then.....
[01:02] <derFlo> bob2: ok
[01:02] <joefish> I've just installed ubuntu and I ahve a SATA drive qith a windows partition on it and when i i boot i get grub error 17
[01:02] <DjKritical> aftertaf, I don't really care about the firefox thing, thats no big deal.. I'm more interested in the thing about being able to choose a default sound card in the "multimedia systems selector"
[01:03] <joefish> i had a suse install too which went south when I installed the sata drive
[01:03] <casi> Your Bios is too old.
[01:03] <casi> Try an update..
[01:03] <DjKritical> aftertaf, that's the whole reason I opdated
[01:03] <casi> @ joefish
[01:03] <joefish> iv'e got a dell precision 360 and I installed the latest bios release thinking this might help - nup
[01:03] <lux`> urandom whit webcam
[01:03] <lux`> urandom whit webcam really random :)
[01:03] <brownie17> joefish, any other information? i don't know about that, try the grub manul for error codes maybe? try asking a more specific question in here, rather than just, can you help me
[01:04] <derFlo> bob2: I meant this as an answer to lux, but you're right. Sorry
[01:04] <DjKritical> Is anyone here running a fresh install of breezy? can you go into 'System' -> 'Multimedia Systems Selecter' and tell me if there is now an option to choose which sound care you want to use?
[01:04] <joefish> ok...I'm linux newbie though and not sure where to start
[01:04] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  gnome: i cant help you with that, i dont know gnome.
[01:05] <aftertaf> howd it go airtonix ?
[01:05] <airtonix> yeah i got a 8bit gui going
[01:05] <aftertaf> lol
[01:05] <airtonix> but it tiled this tiny 8bit window acros s the horrizontal three times
[01:05] <airtonix> would be choice if i could stretch it a nd hook up two other monitors
[01:06] <airtonix> btw is it pos to have multi monitor setup on linux?
[01:06] <Ng> DjKritical: I'm not on a fresh breezy, it's upgraded from hoary (it is up to date though) and I don't see a soundcard selector in there, just the OSS/ALSA/ESD/etc ones
[01:07] <DrTiger> can I use Dvd Ram in ubuntu?
[01:07] <DjKritical> Ng, someone told me (after I explained my major problem with having 2 soundcards) that they added that into breezy
[01:07] <DrTiger> I'm getting all this strange behaviour....
[01:07] <DjKritical> and I just upgraded from Hoary.. and I don't see it
[01:07] <DjKritical> anyone with a fresh install of hoary able to tell me?
[01:07] <Ng> DjKritical: hmm, pass. It could just be that I don't have two soundcards
[01:08] <brownie17> DjKritical, why do you need 2 sound cards anyway?
[01:08] <airtonix> coz hes elite
[01:08] <DjKritical> USB surround headphones, onboard sound (with line-in)
[01:08] <brownie17> hahah
[01:09] <Ng> brownie17: my machine at home as two soundcards, one is the worthless onboard one, one is the useful SB Live :)
[01:09] <brownie17> Ng, fair enough
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> Ng: disable the onboard inthebios
[01:09] <Ng> so it's not an uncommon situation
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> though some you cannot
[01:09] <brownie17> HrdwrBob, good thinking
[01:09] <Ng> HrdwrBob: that almost never works because Linux ignores the bios and scans/enables hardware itself. I just use the SB Live one
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> Ng: er... no
[01:09] <DjKritical> come'on back to the problem at hand! =)
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> Ng: the bios *disables* it
[01:09] <brownie17> anyone here using TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- This gets me error saying no such script as breezy ... any idea ?
[01:10] <Ng> HrdwrBob: ime that depends on the bios, I can disable all kinds of things in mine that still come back when I boot up ;)
[01:10] <HrdwrBob> Ng: it doesn't show up in the PCI listing
[01:10] <HrdwrBob> trust me when you disable that it's disabled
[01:11] <brownie17> Ng, yeah ok, apologies
[01:11] <ColonelKernel> what reason is there to run more than one soundcard?
[01:12] <brownie17> ColonelKernel, don't ask!
[01:13] <DrTiger> at the moment I can't even blank the dvd rw
[01:13] <ducati600ss> hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction for finding out my root password to use webmin. thanks
[01:13] <DjKritical> I have USB Surround headphones... and when I'm not playing games... Normal Stereo Speakers!
[01:13] <frustratediniowa> if I had to guess I'd say if you like to play a midi device and play games... game soundcards are traditionally horribly inaccurate midi devices
[01:13] <DjKritical> Thats why :P
[01:13] <brownie17> ducati600ss, it will be the password for the root account on ubuntu
[01:13] <tga> sigh, surround headphones
[01:14] <Ubunti_Ki> my gpc dont seem to work, anyone?
[01:14] <tga> do they cover all four of your ears?
[01:14] <frustratediniowa> lol :S
[01:14] <ducati600ss> ok thanks
[01:14] <cafuego_> tga: Yes, and the front ear too.
[01:14] <DjKritical> tga: no but they work.
[01:14] <Syruss> anyone here use shfs on breezy badger? The module keeps segfaulting on me when I try to delete files/unmount shfs mounts...
[01:14] <intelikey> DrTiger you probably don't have a root passwd set yet.   (default install)
[01:14] <cafuego_> tga: (the infrasound ear)
[01:14] <tga> I wouldn't mind a chest-strapped portable woofer :)
[01:15] <cafuego_> tga: Try burping, much cheaper.
[01:15] <Grinak> lol
[01:15] <nekostar> hello!
[01:15] <DjKritical> everybody disses my setup instead of offering any type of solution =(
[01:15] <emac> ive a dell poweredge with a SCSI and 2 SATA drives. When I got the server it just had the SCSI drive and I installed Ubuntu onto it. Since then I got two new SATA drives and installed them, enabled them through BIOS and put entries into fstab to automount them. Now I want to remove one of the SATA drives, so I removed the entries from fstab, restarted disabled the drive through BIOS and when disabled it would not boot. I get a kernel panic. Heres the error http://p
[01:15] <brownie17> nekostar, greetings from planet ubuntu
[01:15] <Ubunti_Ki> my gpc compilator wont compilate, what is the problem here, someone?
[01:15] <DrTiger> intelikey: why root password? I use it all the time
[01:15] <nekostar> i think im finally gettingsomewhere with this ubuntu thing! <3
[01:15] <nekostar> thanx for all the help yesterday XD
[01:15] <DrTiger> I do think I have one...
[01:15] <brownie17> emac, too much, you got cut off repost the url
[01:16] <bob2> Ubunti_Ki: "compiler" and "compile"
[01:16] <nekostar> i was wondering if there were any recommended alarm clock type dealies for this though :)_
[01:17] <bob2> Ubunti_Ki: also, you'd obviously need to show us the error in #flood
[01:17] <cafuego_> !tell Ubunti_Ki -about compiling
[01:17] <intelikey> DrTiger sorry. tab nick completion error.   wasn't intended for you.
[01:18] <emac> http://pastebin.com/388899
[01:18] <DrTiger> ok
[01:18] <frustratediniowa> now that I have my nic back *sigh*
[01:18] <Dreamglider> how can i connect to my laptop remote desk, both pc's have ubuntu
[01:18] <DrTiger> I was surprised someone would answer my questions anyway...
[01:18] <cafuego_> emac: Did you remove the disk that root is on?
[01:18] <Ubunti_Ki> here's my error message from gpc: "/PASCAL$ gpc --extended-pascal test2.p -o test2
[01:18] <Ubunti_Ki> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[01:18] <Ubunti_Ki> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"
[01:18] <emac> So now my computer wont boot without these SATA drives in and I want to get one of them out
[01:18] <emac> nope
[01:19] <cafuego_> Ubunti_Ki: install build-essential
[01:19] <cafuego_> emac: Looks like they may have renumbered themselves...
[01:19] <Ubunti_Ki> ohm okey cafuego
[01:19] <emac> Ubuntu was originally installed on the SCSI without the SATA drives and was working correctly
[01:19] <emac> oh
[01:20] <intelikey> well DrTiger if i knew anything about dvd ram i would certanly answer your question  :)
[01:20] <anthony> How do you get Sun Java Runtime in 5.10?
[01:20] <emac> you mean with these disabled the kernel could be creating new device names for the storage devices
[01:20] <cafuego_> emac: Yes, but now it probably probes sata first (they show up as scsi too), so it thinks your original scsi drive is now sdc and not sda!
[01:20] <nekostar> oo
[01:20] <Seveas> emac, remove one, boot from livecd, sudo fdisk -l, reinstall grub, correct menu.lstand fstab
[01:20] <nekostar> i had a great link on how to do java anthony let me find it
[01:20] <Dreamglider> what is a dvd ram anyways?
[01:20] <DrTiger> If everything just works, it shouldnt be such an issue to blank a dvd-rw though
[01:20] <Seveas> !tell anthony about javadeb
[01:20] <cafuego_> !java
[01:20] <ubotu> it has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:21] <Pickle_Weasel> i tried making myself a sun java package, but it got so messed up all three times that i gave up and just installed the java available in synaptic
[01:21] <anthony> K, thanks.
[01:21] <emac> Seveas: I dont have a livecd, is there an alternative, can I guess?
[01:21] <anthony> !java
[01:21] <ubotu> [javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:21] <Seveas> well, if ot does not boot, there's not so much to guess :)
[01:21] <cafuego_> emac: Do you have the install cd?
[01:22] <brownie17> emac, livecd only takes a few hours to download, you won't regret it, they are handy as hell
[01:22] <intelikey> well DrTiger very true.    have you tried reading the manpage on cdrecord ?
[01:22] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, it did not work to install essential?
[01:22] <nekostar> yeah that was it right there! worked exactly!
[01:22] <DrTiger> I know how it *should* be done
[01:22] <DrTiger> but the error messages don't make sense to me...
[01:22] <cafuego_> Ubunti_Ki: 'build-essential'
[01:23] <cafuego_> !find crt1.o
[01:23] <intelikey> let me see  E.
[01:23] <DrTiger> I mean how can an unused, right-out-of-the box rw medium not be suitable for blanking?
[01:23] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, I did so!
[01:23] <emac> yeah, I have the install cd
[01:24] <cafuego_> emac: boot off the install cd, cwitch to console #2
[01:24] <emac> console #2???
[01:24] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, it complained that the packages where fragmented!
[01:24] <cafuego_> Ubunti_Ki: That's not an error message I've ever seen before. What did it *actually* say?
[01:24] <intelikey> DrTiger i don't know.   i'll have to bow out, on that issue.  ;/
[01:25] <cafuego_> emac: hit alt-F2 after disks have been detected, you'll get a shell.
[01:25] <scanwinder> does anyone know any good pdf writers for linux?
[01:25] <cafuego_> scanwinder: openoffice works fine.
[01:25] <emac> oh
[01:25] <Skid> lex too
[01:25] <emac> oh right
[01:25] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, its reads in swedish, so....It said that the packages could not be installed and that they where broken.
[01:25] <Skid> but openoffice is obviously easier
[01:25] <brownie17> scanwinder, open office
[01:25] <scanwinder> i mean non-resource hungary ones
[01:26] <scanwinder> this is for my laptop(166 with 32mb ram)
[01:26] <cafuego_> Ubunti_Ki: run 'sudo apt-get update' first. Do you have any non-official sources enabled?
[01:26] <emac> will I be able to access the filesystem from my full install from this shell
[01:26] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, i wrote the following command "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:26] <DrTiger> does hungary have no resources?
[01:26] <brownie17> scanwinder, get a new computer :) if you can't run openoffice good then you need an update
[01:26] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, Ok ill try now.
[01:26] <DrTiger> cafuego: try latex or lyx
[01:26] <scanwinder> browniel7: i have another computer but i still want a pdf writer for my laptop
[01:27] <DrTiger> not as fancy as open office, but powerful and ressource concious
[01:27] <HrdwrBob> scanwinder: you can print straight to pds
[01:27] <HrdwrBob> pdf
[01:27] <intelikey> that's it brownie17 sell that new hardware.
[01:27] <scanwinder> HrdwrBob: ok, thanks
[01:27] <brownie17> intelikey, i work for harvey norman :) (not really)
[01:28] <intelikey> :)
[01:29] <DrTiger> and Ubuntu still does not support my laptop battery
[01:31] <Ubunti_Ki> cafuego, im ready, it work. many thans!
[01:32] <Dreamglider> DrTiger, Breezy detect's my battery fine
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[01:32] <aftertaf> boom bang
[01:32] <DrTiger> yep, I guess most laptops work fine -.-
[01:32] <Dreamglider> tho the battery is pretty flat has about 2 minutes capasity hehe.
[01:33] <vengeful> detects mine ok
[01:34] <DrTiger> acpi won't work -.-
[01:34] <brownie17> these days battery technonlogy hasn't caught up with the rest, so laptops arent worth having for new computer without a second battery. the only advatange is that it is easier to carry places, lighter and smaller. but you cannot use it on the run for more than a few seconds
[01:34] <damo21> how do i set up a local apt repository?
[01:34] <anthony> I tried to run "sudo apt-get install java-package java-common" command under Breezy, but I get the error "E: Couldn't find package java-package". Any ideas?
[01:35] <aftertaf> !java
[01:35] <anthony> !java
[01:35] <intelikey> damo21 sudo apt-config     or configure which ever it is.
[01:35] <aftertaf> another bot bites the dust
[01:35] <damo21> anthony: make sure you have the right repo selected
[01:36] <anthony> damo21: How do I select repositories?
[01:36] <Bergcube> brownie17~  If you need to be computing on the run I think it'd be worthwile to consider the various palmtop computers.
[01:36] <Dreamglider> brownie17, one does not need to run on full power, lower the CPU usage and screen lighting and allso avoid using CD/DVD that will extend the battery life, mine had about 3 maybe 4 hours when it was new
[01:36] <damo21> anthony: synaptic -> repositories
[01:36] <anthony> damo21: I have all the repositories checked in Synaptic.
[01:37] <brownie17> Dreamglider, but is it worth underclocking and sacrficing visibility just so you can have a lighter computer? where do you go apart from trains and things where you need battery power anyway?
[01:37] <aftertaf> anthony:  with universe  multiverse enabled too?
[01:37] <damo21> try sudo apt-get update first
[01:37] <damo21> but synaptic should do this
[01:39] <DrTiger> I simply can't burn anything -.-
[01:39] <damo21> anthony: yeah make sure universe + multiverse enabled
[01:39] <DrTiger> I am working on this for weeks now without any success....
[01:39] <anthony> damo21: It seems "universe" are enabled, but how do I enable "mutiverse"?
[01:39] <DrTiger> Ubuntu totally frustrates me
[01:40] <vengeful> drtiger what cant you burn
[01:40] <vengeful> anything at all?
[01:40] <vengeful> or just mp3s
[01:40] <DrTiger> I can burn nothing but some isos I didn't create myself
[01:40] <damo21> DrTiger: there is a good wiki on the "illegal" packages
[01:40] <Dreamglider> true, but here on the faroe islands power outages are pretty normal :)
[01:40] <DrTiger> where?
[01:41] <damo21> DrTiger: u need to enable certain repo for illegal packages
[01:41] <DrTiger> where is the wiki page?
[01:41] <damo21> its on the ubuntu website somewhere
[01:42] <damo21> i remember reading it
[01:42] <DrTiger> thanks a lot... that really helps me...
[01:42] <anthony> How come when I try to run "fakeroot", the command is "not found"? Do I have to enable some sort of package before I can use it?
[01:42] <aftertaf> wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <DrTiger> hopefully ^  ^
[01:42] <damo21> it should :)
[01:42] <aftertaf> !restricted
[01:42] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:42] <cafuego_> anthony: Yes, maybe try installing 'fakeroot'.
[01:42] <damo21> YEAH thats it
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> anthony sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[01:42] <damo21> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
[01:42] <aftertaf> hehe cafuego might help ;)
[01:43] <navegante> Hola
[01:43] <anthony> Alright, thanks.
[01:43] <damo21> DrTiger: its the restricted packages click the link above
[01:44] <navegante> helpme with CEDEGA
[01:44] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[01:44] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[01:44] <navegante> ok
[01:44] <_edulix> hi!
[01:44] <DrTiger> isn't it cool, that Shuttleworth said, there will never be a commercial enterprise version and now he invests money to do just that?
[01:45] <anthony> Ugh... not it says "make-jpkg: command not found", and there are no packages named "make-jpkg".
[01:45] <HrdwrBob> DrTiger: er.. what
[01:45] <joefish> hi, I'm back and still havng probs with grub working when i activate my sata drive in bios.
[01:45] <DrTiger> thats in the ubuntu news column
[01:45] <HrdwrBob> DrTiger: url?
[01:46] <joefish> can someone please lend a hand. total newbie to linux
[01:46] <damo21> anthony: u need to grab the java-common and java-package packages
[01:46] <DrTiger> he invested 10 $ into impilinux to buy 60% or so from them, and they plan to base their next version on ubuntu. However, this version isn't free, as they add value to it ...
[01:47] <HrdwrBob> 10$
[01:47] <HrdwrBob> that's not a big investment
[01:47] <aftertaf> DrTiger:  apparently the OS will be free, its the service you will pay for.
[01:47] <HrdwrBob> that's more like 'a pie and chips'
[01:47] <damo21> lol
[01:47] <aftertaf> lol HrdwrBob
[01:47] <DrTiger> 10 millon $ I have no objection, because this project is certainly important for Africa, but it is a bit odd =)
[01:47] <damo21> i think he meant millions
[01:47] <brownie17> anyone here use TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu?
[01:47] <aftertaf> i spoke to someone who works for impilinux this morning
[01:47] <joefish> is there somewhere I can get help with my bootloader problem?
[01:47] <intelikey> howto keep error output from circumventing a pipe and going to stdout ???
[01:47] <vbgunz> how do you set permissions for a folder recursively?
[01:47] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  no idea.
[01:48] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: i did with hoary
[01:48] <anthony> damo21: I was be able to grab the java-common but having trouble grabbing java-package, did a search in Synaptic there don't seem to be an java-package package, perhaps it's because I'm running 5.10RC?
[01:48] <intelikey> vbgunz -R
[01:48] <joefish> vbgunz: chmod -R
[01:48] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, what is the command to start it? i installed it allready
[01:48] <vbgunz> aftertaf: thats a good response :P
[01:48] <emac> I booted off the install cd and into the console, first with the two drives activated. Then I rebooted and switched off the SATA port through BIOS that I want to remove. When I did this I booted back into console mode and cat /proc/partitions shows just one disk sda
[01:48] <damo21> anthony: check out the restricted formats wiki
[01:48] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: how did you install it?
[01:48] <emac> but there two disks installed
[01:48] <damo21> !restricted
[01:48] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, using the install script from the website
[01:49] <intelikey> vbgunz but remember you must exec dirs and most files you don't want +x
[01:49] <joefish> sorry, am I invisible?
[01:49] <anthony> damo21: Yeah I did that, they have no information on it.
[01:50] <brownie17> joefish, i can't see you, so i guess so
[01:50] <vbgunz> intelikey, I migrated my Thundebird profile over from Windows. I noticed that inside the mail folder, all folders have a lock next to them... All folders beneath those also have a lock... I just want to own it...
[01:50] <anthony> damo21: Could you tell me the exact steps to enable "multiverse"? I don't think I have that enabled but I don't know how.
[01:50] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: i don't know if theres a link from a file in /usr/bin odr /usr/local/bin. if there is one in /usr/local/bin you could look there
[01:50] <intelikey> what boot loader problem joefish ?
[01:50] <damo21> anthony: there is a whole section on java
[01:50] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, thanks
[01:50] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, how did you used to run it?
[01:50] <damo21> anthony: it will install the jre
[01:50] <joefish> when I activate my sata drive i get error 17
[01:50] <intelikey> vbgunz then chown  not chmod.
[01:51] <anthony> damo21: Yes but the only placed they mentioned "java-package" is "Install the java-package and java-common:
[01:51] <anthony> sudo apt-get install java-package java-common
[01:51] <anthony> ".
[01:51] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: hm, i have made a menu entry directly to the executable in the install dir i think
[01:51] <vbgunz> intelikey: ok, will look it up, thanks!
[01:51] <vbgunz> thanks fellas!
[01:51] <damo21> anthony: yes, but u have to edit the sources.list file first and add a restricted repo
[01:51] <joefish> that is in stage 1.5: cannot maount selected partition
[01:51] <anthony> damo21: Yeah that's what I'm trying to do, install the Sun Java Runtime following the steps as illustrated in the Restricted Wiki, but I got step on the "sudo apt-get install java-package" step.
[01:52] <joefish> i think it is trying to mount the sda1 as the boot partition but that is ntfs
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> hi jipi
[01:52] <Whistler> hello
[01:52] <joefish> i installed ubuntu on hdb
[01:52] <damo21> anthony: whats the problem what is the error message?
[01:52] <joefish> windows boots from hda
[01:52] <jipi> wickedpuppy: yo!
[01:52] <anthony> damo21: Simply "E: Couldn't find package java-package".
[01:52] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, when i start it, it gives me a question about server domain and such, in windows it does not, it just loads the main screen. any hints?
[01:52] <OculusAquilae> hm
[01:53] <kbrooks> Seveas:
[01:53] <joefish> has anyone ever had this before?
[01:53] <kbrooks> online?
[01:53] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, want a screenshot?
[01:53] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: hm, ok
[01:53] <intelikey> joefish sounds like when you activate the sata drive it remaps your drives in bios  causing grub to look on the wroung disk for the partition.
[01:53] <joefish> I've read a lot of posts that mention error 17 when people have reinstalled a new distro
[01:53] <anthony> !multiverse
[01:53] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[01:53] <damo21> anthony: make sure in synaptic u have enabled multiverse
[01:53] <anthony> !repositories
[01:53] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[01:53] <joefish> yep, I'm afraid that my bios might be the prob
[01:53] <dbug> anyone know if is possibel remove all gnome from ubuntu and use just xfce ?
[01:54] <joefish> I am running the lates for my machine (a Dell precision 360: bios ver a08)
[01:54] <damo21> dbug: i am running xfce
[01:54] <mrdeath> dbug: try debfoster
[01:54] <dbug> me too
[01:54] <anthony> damo21: K I'm in Synaptic now, so I click on Settings and then Repositories right?
[01:54] <dbug> but i have gnome
[01:54] <dbug> my pc is to slow, and gnome.....
[01:54] <joefish> is there anyway to forcr grub to look specifically to hda for boot?
[01:54] <damo21> mrdeath: debfoster?
[01:54] <wickedpuppy> anthony, yes ... then add the universe and multiverse
[01:54] <kbrooks> dbug: you need the gtk libraries
[01:55] <kbrooks> damo21: foster orphan
[01:55] <kbrooks> clear now? ;)
[01:55] <vbgunz> intelikey: before I go ahead with this and probably mess things up, would you say this is it "chown -R vbgunz:vbgunz /home/sysadmin/.mozilla-thunderbird/thunderbird_vbgunz"?
[01:55] <damo21> hehe
[01:55] <mrdeath> damo21: this app asks you about packages that intalled in your system and remove it if you don't want to have it
[01:55] <damo21> cool
[01:55] <joefish> I hve no experience with the finer workings of grub
[01:55] <anthony> wickedpuppy: I'm using 5.10RC, I clicked on Add and all it gave me is Ubuntu 5.10 Updates, Unbuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger", and Ubuntu 5.10 Security Updates.
[01:55] <kbrooks> mrdeath: those packages are called orphans
[01:56] <joefish> so was hoping for some guidance from more experienced types
[01:56] <emac> if I have one scsi disk installed and one SATA drive installed what device names will these be given or can it vary?
[01:56] <intelikey> yes vbgunz
[01:56] <damo21> anthony: you might have to add the repositories manually because u have 5.10RC
[01:56] <vbgunz> intelikey: thank you!
[01:56] <Seveas> kbrooks, yeah, was busy creating http://planet.ubuntulinux.nl :)
[01:57] <nsomniac> what is different from xfce than gnome ?
[01:57] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2964
[01:57] <anthony> dam21: Yes, I'm in the sources.list now, would you happen to know the URL for the multiverse repository?
[01:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: 3 days left to breezy in my tz
[01:57] <nsomniac> first time I have even heard of it
[01:57] <damo21> anthony: wait i'll edit mine
[01:57] <intelikey> joefish me either.  if it was lilo i could brobably at least help you work around that error, but i'm grub illerate  :)
[01:57] <kbrooks> nsomniac: a substanial (?) difference
[01:57] <vbgunz> intelikey: I didn't get any errors *but* all the files within those folders still have a lock next to them...
[01:57] <kbrooks> seveas: ty.
[01:58] <joefish> I would like to try lilo, but I'm a bit afraid of messing up the mbr if I change boot loaders
[01:58] <nsomniac> kbrooks : looks similar to KDE
[01:58] <nsomniac> could you elaborate
[01:58] <Syruss> is there a way to get 'lock screen' to work on the breezy badger livecd?
[01:58] <joefish> ubuntu doesn't give you the option when installing
[01:58] <damo21> anthony: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[01:58] <kbrooks> nsomniac: look at some xfce screenshots and compare with gnome
[01:58] <kbrooks> thats how different
[01:58] <nsomniac> just did
[01:58] <OculusAquilae> Brownie17: i think there you can directly type you ts-server
[01:58] <OculusAquilae> nothing more
[01:59] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, but i don't know what to type, last time i only had to browse through a list
[01:59] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: hm
[01:59] <emac> ok in grub it says /dev/sdc1 and this works with the two SATA drives installed
[01:59] <anthony> damo21: Thank you. I'll give that a try.
[01:59] <kbrooks> siriusly1: I like that nickname
[01:59] <housetier> maybe if someone could update the topic :)
[01:59] <kbrooks> housetier: for what? and why?
[02:00] <intelikey> vbgunz ok try "chmod +w+w-w <dir> -R"   at lease that will give you write access without making the dirrectories un-accessable.
[02:00] <emac> so when I take out one SATA drive it the SCSI which is sdc1 with all the disks
[02:00] <anthony> damo21: Yes it worked, it's now fetching java-package, thank you. =)
[02:00] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: at my box it shows the main-screen
[02:00] <emac> should become sdb
[02:00] <damo21> :)
[02:00] <housetier> kbrooks according to topic breezy is out today
[02:00] <kbrooks> housetier: no
[02:00] <nsomniac> *shrug*... kbrooks I'm fond of fluxbox and E the less crap on my desktop the better
[02:00] <emac> but how can I test this without risking locking myself out of the system???
[02:00] <nsomniac> I'm not really one for icons
[02:00] <housetier> kbrooks however it doesnt say so explicitely
[02:01] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, so i ran it though /usr/bin did you just install it?
[02:01] <vbgunz> intelikey: ok, let me look it over...
[02:01] <kbrooks> housetier: look at the topic mtime
[02:01] <housetier> oct 10 + 3 days
[02:01] <kbrooks> its not out today
[02:01] <joefish> intelikey: thanks anyway
[02:01] <housetier> hm ok
[02:01] <kbrooks> housetier: you misread it
[02:01] <emac> if I change grub to sdb and this doesnt become the device name how will I get back in?
[02:01] <OculusAquilae> brownie: look, i don't think you screenshottet teamspeak
[02:01] <kbrooks> october 13 not october 10
[02:01] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, haha i just realised too!
[02:02] <OculusAquilae> :)
[02:02] <WhyvasLT> can someone suggest good fast software to convert avis to vcds ??
[02:02] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, im a stupidhead. it was tsclient, so easy mistake. does that mean it is not installed at all?
[02:02] <intelikey> joefish "<joefish> I would like to try lilo,...<joefish> ubuntu doesn't give you the option when installing"   yes it does.  at boot time enter expert mode.
[02:02] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, the isntall script said it installed.
[02:02] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: look at /opt/teamspeak
[02:02] <joefish> ok, i'll try reinstalling - far from expert though :)
[02:02] <joefish> cheers
[02:03] <kbrooks> joefish: no
[02:03] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: look at /opt/TeamSpeak2 or something like that
[02:03] <emac> when im booting and grub is set-up wrong how can I get back in?>
[02:03] <coobra> if i do a ubuntu server install is there a package list somewhere
[02:03] <joefish> no?
[02:03] <emac> do I need to reinstall grub?
[02:03] <kbrooks> don't reinstall
[02:03] <kbrooks> ubuntu
[02:03] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, nope
[02:03] <damo21> Seveas: what are your seveas-meta packages for?
[02:03] <intelikey> joefish you can install lilo on any running *nix
[02:03] <kbrooks> install lilo instead
[02:03] <WhyvasLT> can someone suggest good fast software to convert avis to vcds ??
[02:03] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, i am going to try to manual install it
[02:03] <joefish> can someone talk me through it please?
[02:04] <_edulix> hi !
[02:04] <OculusAquilae> brownie17: you can type a folder where to install it and you should know where
[02:04] <intelikey> apt-get install lilo
[02:04] <intelikey> errr sudo of course
[02:04] <brownie17> OculusAquilae, gtg
[02:04] <joefish> or point me to appropriate docs?
[02:04] <Seveas> damo21, read the description :)
[02:05] <Edulix> in order to install my wifi card, a 3com wa-305, I need to compile the poldhu driver, and it's said that I need kernel sources for that
[02:05] <intelikey> joefish sudo apt-get install lilo && man lilo
[02:05] <kafeine> excuse my ignorance, but how can i read the log of what shows up during bootup?
[02:05] <damo21> Seveas: you have been very busy!! wow so cool
[02:05] <kafeine> e.g., where is this log?
[02:05] <Edulix> what kernel sources do I need to install?
[02:05] <El_Che> kafeine: /var/log/messages
[02:05] <intelikey> kafeine dmesg
[02:05] <emac> what does dmesg stand for?
[02:06] <pinucset> which day will breezy be upgraded?
[02:06] <Edulix> linux-source-2.6.11 or linux-tree-2.6.11 ?
[02:06] <intelikey> type dmesg in a term and it will display the startup messages
[02:06] <Hobbsee> !breezyreleasedate
[02:06] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I give up, what is it?
[02:06] <avalost> linux-source
[02:06] <kevor> /topic
[02:07] <Hobbsee> ah, so it is, the topic has changed again
[02:07] <Edulix> avalost: ok and if I wanted to get the same kernel as I already have but compiled by myself, do I need to configure it in any way or it comes preconfigured?
[02:08] <avalost> Edulix, it should be fine
[02:08] <Edulix> ok
[02:08] <avalost> unless you made a serious goof
[02:08] <Edulix> avalost: I didn't make anything yet
[02:08] <avalost> Edulix, let me ask tho: why are you compiling kernels?
[02:08] <joefish> thanks intelikey, I'll try with lilo
[02:08] <avalost> if you don't know much about them, it's better to use the vanilla packages
[02:09] <Edulix> avalost: I know how to compile kernels (I was a gentoo user for a year hehe) but now I just want to get my wifi working
[02:09] <avalost> Edulix,  I see
[02:10] <intelikey> joefish most people that use both go back to grub because of ultra large partition support.    you might also take that into consideration after you work past this issue.
[02:10] <vbgunz> intelikey: thank you, that chmod command seemed to remove all the lock icons *but* it seems I cannot write to most files and folders found in the mail directory... i will try
[02:11] <vbgunz> intelikey: I will look for chmod help
[02:12] <vbgunz> intelikey: How do I find out more about the switches such as w+w+w-w?
[02:12] <intelikey> vbgunz all cli commands "should"(in theory but not in practice) by default have a man page.  man <blah>        time to go, good day and God bless.
[02:12] <vbgunz> intelikey: thank you!
[02:13] <N6REJ> exit
[02:13] <avalost> vbgunz, dirs should be 755 to write to them
[02:15] <vbgunz> avalost: How do I chmod that? 755?
[02:15] <avalost> vbgunz, chmod 755 dir/
[02:16] <vbgunz> avalost: ahh, ok, let me try that!
[02:16] <avalost> vbgunz, you may also want to see if you own the files too
[02:16] <vbgunz> avalost: holy coo, you're right it is 755
[02:17] <vbgunz> basically, I am the only one who  read, writes and execute in Thunderbird. Every thing else by default should be read and execute *but* not write...
[02:17] <vbgunz> *I think*
[02:18] <dylan_> does anybody know how to get totem-xine to play embedded web pages?
[02:18] <vbgunz> I just need to be able to write to folders, I hope this works...
[02:18] <avalost> dylan_, totem stinks for that
[02:18] <dylan_> avalost, i dont like mplayer...it installs too many things
[02:18] <dylan_> avalost, i just want totem-xine to do it...can you help?
[02:18] <avalost> dylan_, I would suggest using mplayer or gmplayer.. and mozplugger helps
[02:19] <dylan_> avalost, whats gmplayer?
[02:19] <vbgunz> avalost: how do i escape a man page? I am at the end of chmod man *but* I can't close it inline? possible?
[02:19] <avalost> dylan_, gmplayer is the graphical version of mplayer
[02:19] <avalost> vbgunz, q
[02:19] <avalost> hit q
[02:19] <vbgunz> avalost: thanks :P
[02:19] <avalost> np
[02:20] <vbgunz> avalost: one question before I do this. How do I get a definitive list of possible numbers like 555, 755, etc?
[02:20] <hwaara> what developer package do I need in order to get XSelectInput, XNextEvent, XFree, etc.? I get a building error when building Thunderbird.
[02:20] <avalost> dylan_, mplayer offers the best vid support of any multimedia player out there, "installing too many things" should be an easy compromise
[02:20] <dylan_> avalost, i dont want it to install xmms with it
[02:20] <Seveas> hwaara, apt-get build-dep thunderbird
[02:20] <Seveas> (or better: apt-get install thunderbird ;))
[02:21] <avalost> vbgunz, http://google.com/linux search chmod / permissions
[02:21] <hwaara> Seveas, but I'm building the source :)
[02:21] <avalost> dylan_, you don't need to install xmms
[02:21] <vbgunz> dude, google is too easy, I am trying to make it hard ;)
[02:21] <dylan_> avalost, but it installs xmms with mplayer
[02:21] <aftertaf> lol
[02:21] <Seveas> hwaara, apt-get build-dep drags in all build dependencies
[02:22] <avalost> vbgunz, you could potentially use any number.. it's all about your dmask and what-have-you
[02:22] <hwaara> Seveas, wow that's neat
[02:22] <avalost> I never thought xmms was a dep of mplayer.
[02:22] <avalost> I can't see why it is
[02:23] <avalost> it's probably a plugin you're talking about
[02:23] <hwaara> Seveas, "could not find a source package for thunderbird"
[02:23] <hwaara> does it really recognize "thunderbird" ?
[02:23] <Seveas> !info thunderbird
[02:23] <avalost> and what's wrong with xmms anyway?
[02:24] <dylan_> avalost, no, it installs xmms with it...i dont want it to
[02:24] <dylan_> avalost, i have Rhythmbox
[02:24] <Seveas> hmm, only mozilla-thunderbird is known
[02:24] <avalost> dylan_, the do apt-get remove xmms after
[02:24] <hwaara> Seveas, I am trying to build from the trunk.   ok, I'll try that
[02:24] <vbgunz> avalost, I just ran chmod 755 /home/thunderbird -R and I believe this didn't just affect folders but files also, correct?
[02:24] <dylan_> avalost, then it removes mplayer
[02:24] <vbgunz> every file now has 755 to it, is this a security risk?
[02:24] <avalost> dylan_, are you really tight on space?
[02:25] <avalost> vbgunz, yes
[02:25] <avalost> definitely
[02:25] <dylan_> avalost, no but i dont want a lot of apps
[02:25] <avalost> dylan_, compile mplayer from source then
[02:25] <dylan_> oh god
[02:25] <dylan_> no way
[02:25] <avalost> otherwise deal with xmms
[02:25] <dylan_> im not doin that
[02:25] <WhyvasLT> can someone suggest good fast software to convert avis to vcds ??
[02:25] <kbrooks> Seveas: mozilla-thunderbird
[02:25] <kbrooks> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[02:25] <vbgunz> man, I blew myself out of the water then... I only did this to Thunderbird, should I uninstall/reinstall?
[02:26] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 10638 kB, Installed size: 31136 kB
[02:26] <kbrooks> !info mozilla-thunderbird breezy
[02:26] <dylan_> avalost, couldnt you just pointed me towards the direction of totem-xine?  i like that more
[02:26] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 10092 kB, Installed size: 30432 kB
[02:26] <hwaara> Seveas, ok it found a bunch of new packages. heh, autoconf..?? I think I have that.
[02:26] <hwaara> Seveas, I'll try installing it all and see if it magically solves my problem.  thanks!
[02:26] <kbrooks> hwaara:
[02:26] <kbrooks> !info mozilla-thunderbird breezy
[02:26] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 10092 kB, Installed size: 30432 kB
[02:26] <avalost> vbgunz, you could just rm -rf the dir and next time you run it it will recreate the files
[02:26] <avalost> unless you have stuff saved you want
[02:27] <kbrooks> mozilla-thunderbird not thunderbird
[02:27] <hwaara> kbrooks, thanks
[02:27] <vbgunz> nah, I actually just migrated a Windows profile in which I already have in a Windows partition *backedup*...
[02:27] <hwaara> kbrooks, that's what I am using now. it seems to download and install a bunch of stuff.
[02:27] <hwaara> I can't understand how apt-get knows every package  :)
[02:27] <avalost> all right, replacing it should be fine then
[02:27] <Skid> w 18
[02:28] <vbgunz> so I do a rremove recursive with force... and this will automatically reinstall every missing file for thunderbird at the correct permissions?
[02:28] <damo21> Seveas: how can i fix msttcorefonts, it cant find the default download location for andale32.exe
[02:28] <avalost> vbgunz, if you do a rm on it, next time you run thunderbird the defaults will be recrated
[02:28] <Hobbsee> which graphics cards work better with linux (ie easier to customise and/or work out of the box) - ATI or Nvidia?
[02:28] <avalost> otherwise you will have to restore it to the way you had it before
[02:28] <damo21> Hobbsee: NVIDIA!!!!
[02:28] <aftertaf> imho nvidia
[02:29] <Hobbsee> right, cool
[02:29] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:29] <Hobbsee> i could get a new desktop for $1300 aussie including monitor, that's not bad lol!
[02:29] <damo21> Hobbsee: im fed up with ati drivers
[02:29] <vbgunz> avalost, ok, so then I only need to know one thing... When I copy my files from Windows to Linux, how do I insure, they don't all come with the lock? It makes no sense to me and I don't know why Linux does this... I mean, I should at least own them and do *but* cannot write to them :P
[02:29] <WhyvasLT> im fed up with nobody answering my question
[02:29] <Hobbsee> lol right (makes mental note not to get ati)
[02:30] <damo21> Hobbsee: considering flogging off my 9800pro for an nvidia card
[02:30] <Hobbsee> not a bad idea
[02:30] <Hobbsee> do the nvidia cards work otu of the box, or do i still have to compile something for them?
[02:30] <aftertaf> always work to do........
[02:31] <damo21> Hobbsee: i think they still need binary drivers for best performance, but at least they are provided on nvidia website
[02:31] <Hobbsee> damo21: nice, very nice.  and they cant be included due to licencing, presumably?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> WhyvasLT: what was your question, i cant see it...
[02:32] <damo21> Hobbsee: i suppose so
[02:32] <aftertaf> or restricted modules for the nvidia binaries....
[02:32] <mike__> How do i set up software raid on ubuntu? I want to boot from a mirror raid array
[02:32] <kbrooks> Hobbsee: they are included
[02:32] <Hobbsee> kbrooks: excellent!
[02:32] <damo21> oh cool
[02:32] <kbrooks> restricted modules
[02:32] <Hobbsee> i'd probably only upgrade around the time of dapper or so
[02:32] <kbrooks> nvidia-glx
[02:32] <Hobbsee> ah yep
[02:32] <dbug> after install xfce, when remove GDM i don't go have problems on start ?
[02:32] <limguohong91> How do i install bruses for The Gimp?
[02:32] <kbrooks> at least, in thoery
[02:32] <limguohong91> *brushes
[02:33] <damo21> how do u remove gdm and just use xfce
[02:33] <aftertaf> nvidia-glx is legacy, i think...
[02:33] <Hobbsee> legacy?
[02:33] <aftertaf> restrictedmods & nvidia driver is ok.!
[02:33] <Hobbsee> *nods*
[02:33] <avalost> vbgunz, because the windows permissions are different.. you'll need to assign the proper permissions to the files
[02:33] <dbug> damo21, i can't remove GDM ?
[02:33] <aftertaf> yeah. i havea gf4 at home, and put the restricted mods package for my kernel, then put nvidia a=in xorg and it just *worked*
[02:34] <damo21> dbug: i dont know i was asking
[02:34] <Hobbsee> cool
[02:34] <aftertaf> go breezy :)
[02:34] <avalost> dbug, why remove GDM?
[02:34] <Hobbsee> definetly go breezy.
[02:34] <dbug> damo21,  i want remove all gnome to stay just with xfce
[02:35] <damo21> dbug: i would like to do the same
[02:35] <Hobbsee> i shall hope for just works just works without having to change xorg in dapper, then
[02:35] <avalost> err damo21 GDM is a display manager, xfce is a WINDOW manager, you need a display manager to run a window manager
[02:35] <damo21> oh ok :D
[02:35] <dbug> avalost, my pc is to slowfor gnome
[02:36] <avalost> dbug, so just run xfce, GDM won't slow it down and xdm is pretty generic..
[02:36] <damo21> dbug: leave gdm just use xfce as window manager like i am
[02:36] <avalost> I run gdm with fluxbox and e17
[02:36] <aftertaf> or try kde, its pretty good on slow systems too.....
[02:36] <lucaas> avalost, you dont need a display manager
[02:37] <damo21> e17?
[02:37] <avalost> KDE is not good for slow machines
[02:37] <dbug> can i remove all gnome execpt GDM and xfce gonna works fine ?
[02:37] <aftertaf> enlightenment
[02:37] <Toma-> xdm is the bomb
[02:37] <vbgunz> avalost, I will have to learn more... I really don't know what to do other than copy the profile from Windows into it's own directory, run chmod, there and then copy over to the final thunderbird directory... Otherwise I really don't know about Linux security. i am new to it and don't wish to bother too much about it. I'll try to learn it instead :P
[02:37] <aftertaf> avalost:  depends on definotion of slow. i have a PIII 500
[02:37] <avalost> lucaas, uhh how can you run a wm without a dm?
[02:37] <lucaas> you could do startx
[02:37] <avalost> vbgunz, mozilla.org should have some documentation
[02:37] <lucaas> and have a .xinitrc, or whatever it was called
[02:37] <aftertaf> but there are lighter WMs around, its knowing how to use them ...
[02:38] <avalost> lucaas, if you 'startx' it will load your default DM
[02:38] <avalost> otherwise XDM
[02:38] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: another shameless plug for kde there lol
[02:38] <lucaas> avalost, yes, i dont see the problem with that?
[02:38] <lucaas> ah, sorry
[02:38] <avalost> lucaas, you're missing the point
[02:38] <vbgunz> avalost, ya, I will go there too *but* i think I just have to grow a bit more familiar with how Linux does things first L)
[02:38] <damo21> i am looking for a simple WM for development, with opengl
[02:39] <avalost> vbgunz, prolly a good idea
[02:39] <lucaas> avalost, you can configure what startx starts
[02:39] <vbgunz> avalost: :)
[02:39] <avalost> damo21, there are plenty out them
[02:39] <avalost> lucaas, point is: every WM needs a DM
[02:40] <damo21> fvwm looks nice, but i dont have time to write a fancy .fvwmrc file :P
[02:40] <HrdwrBob> on what planet does fvwm look nice
[02:40] <avalost> if you were to run any wm without installing a proprietary DM it would start the generic XDM
[02:40] <lucaas> avalost, no, they dont
[02:40] <limguohong91> How do i install my brushes for The Gimp?
[02:40] <lucaas> or am i complitly lost here?
[02:40] <HrdwrBob> avalost: you don't need a display manager
[02:40] <lucaas> ah, ok
[02:40] <HrdwrBob> you can simply start X from the command like
[02:40] <lucaas> :>
[02:40] <HrdwrBob> line
[02:40] <HrdwrBob> though a display manager is highly recommended
[02:41] <damo21> HrdwrBob: "nice" means runs fast and efficient for dev
[02:41] <avalost> HrdwrBob, next time you try that from the command line do ps -aux and look for a DM
[02:41] <avalost> I guarantee you'll find one running
[02:41] <HrdwrBob> avalost: trust me on this
[02:41] <avalost> whether it be xdm, kdm, gdm or otherwise
[02:41] <HrdwrBob> there is no display manager
[02:41] <HrdwrBob> it uses xinit
[02:42] <HrdwrBob> called from startx
[02:42] <StylusEater_Work> HrdwrBob: are you silly?
[02:42] <HrdwrBob> StylusEater_Work: no, I'm very serious
[02:42] <damo21> HrdwrBob: i thought xdm is default
[02:42] <avalost> bob is delusional
[02:42] <StylusEater_Work> HrdwrBob: there has to be a dm
[02:42] <HrdwrBob> no, there does not.
[02:42] <HrdwrBob> you can simply run X by itslef
[02:43] <avalost> XDM is the generic DM shipped with xfree or xorg
[02:43] <HrdwrBob> avalost: yes it is
[02:43] <HrdwrBob> damo21: in ubuntu gdm is the default
[02:43] <kbrooks> but
[02:43] <kbrooks> yu can run x by itself
[02:44] <kbrooks> use .xinitrc
[02:44] <kbrooks> and startx
[02:44] <damo21> yeah u can, i know because u can use it to launch fvwm they do that at uni
[02:45] <avalost> gah, I give up
[02:45] <lucaas> i belive it is as HrdwrBob says, as i said before
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> good, because you have no idea what you're talking about
[02:45] <avalost> ok, believe what you want
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> it's not a matter of belief
[02:45] <avalost> obviously it is.
[02:45] <lemics_> but X alone is ugly
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> I've been using linux and X since 1996
[02:45] <avalost> then you've been wrong for a long time
[02:45] <damo21> everyone has a custom .xinitrc file and it works
[02:45] <Toma-> however... the startup scripts will call for a dm by default. you'd have to mess with the startup scripts to go straight to startx
[02:45] <kbrooks> lemics_: "X alone"
[02:45] <kbrooks> lemics_: its ugly
[02:45] <kbrooks> admittely
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> hahahaha
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> seriously, this sort of misinformation is what puts people off
[02:45] <avalost> yes, and you're contributing to it
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> a display manager is very useful
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> but it's not required even remotely
[02:45] <thoreauputic> StylusEater_Work: if you do a bare install and add x-window-system-core, there's no DM at all -you use startx or xinit
[02:45] <thoreauputic> plus ~/.xsession usually
[02:45] <StylusEater_Work> you can run gnome without a dm? haha!
[02:45] <StylusEater_Work> no way
[02:45] <StylusEater_Work> at least not in my experience
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> lemics_: X alone is nothing
[02:45] <thoreauputic> wow I'm lagging like anything...
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> StylusEater_Work: yes, you can.
[02:45] <avalost> thoreauputic, why does startx always call xdm by default?
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> avalost: it doesn't
[02:45] <HrdwrBob> avalost: startx calls xinit
[02:45] <thoreauputic> avalost: it doesn't
[02:46] <avalost> i've done heaps of debian netinstalls, and everytime I get x installed xdm is the default dm
[02:46] <avalost> using .xinitrc
[02:46] <thoreauputic> avalost: *cough*
[02:46] <kbrooks> avalost: xinit runs .xinitrc
[02:46] <kbrooks> avalost: what dont you understand?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> avalost: you have no idea how this works , evidently
[02:46] <avalost> ok, i'm wrong
[02:46] <kbrooks> HrdwrBob: have you noticed awful lag?
[02:47] <HrdwrBob> kbrooks: yes but most of that's been from my retarded work link :)
[02:47] <avalost> i've just always, always had xdm start
[02:47] <thoreauputic> actually in debian distros you use .xsession for preference (either works OK)
[02:47] <HrdwrBob> avalost: I assure you I understand HOW these things work
[02:47] <HrdwrBob> and that xdm is not at all required
[02:47] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: the net is not well today methinks
[02:47] <HrdwrBob> if you would like, I can explain
[02:47] <kbrooks> HrdwrBob: go on
[02:48] <HrdwrBob> in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <kbrooks> full detail
[02:48] <HrdwrBob> it's really not relevant here
[02:48] <avalost> Nah, i'm good, i get the point
[02:48] <thoreauputic> avalost: if you do a sever install with x-window-system-core, you don't get xdm
[02:48] <StylusEater_Work> hrdwrbob: i'd like to hear and I'm now in ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <thoreauputic> *server
[02:48] <damo21> does anyone have a nice .fvwmrc skeleton file i can use :P
[02:49] <avalost> thoreauputic, looking at the script I use for net installs, I added xdm to the apt-get list, my mistake
[02:50] <thoreauputic> avalost: that's OK - it's all learning - I ran debian for ages without a dm so I knew this stuff, that's all
[02:51] <mypapit> dm
[02:51] <Rendy> no one from id ?
[02:51] <Rendy> :o
[02:51] <mypapit> rejden, id?
[02:51] <mypapit> Rendy, id?
[02:51] <rejden> mypapit, id?
[02:51] <Rendy> i wanna ask about ubuntu
[02:51] <Rendy> yes
[02:51] <kbrooks> ask it
[02:51] <rejden> what with it
[02:51] <kbrooks> here
[02:51] <rejden> so go ahead and ask
[02:52] <kbrooks> Rendy: ask your question
[02:52] <Myrtti> /me pulls out her wizard hat
[02:52] <Rendy> but my com didn't accept it
[02:52] <Rendy> grrr
[02:52] <ameer> hi guys plss help me with this
[02:52] <Hobbsee> change the bios to boot from cd before the hard drive?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> ameer: dont ask to ask, just ask
[02:53] <ameer> anyone know how to play this url in ubuntu or kubuntu mms://vom.dhivehinet.net.mv:1069
[02:53] <ameer> thanks
[02:53] <[wiebel] > mplayer mms://vom.dhivehinet.net.mv:1069
[02:53] <damo21> how come msttcorefonts cant find the default download location
[02:53] <damo21> in dpkg
[02:53] <ameer> thanks wiebel
[02:53] <steigweis> this is annoying: "send to" in the contextmenu of nautilus has evolution as default but i want to send with thunderbird... tb is already my major mailprogram. how can i set it in the nautilusmenu also?
[02:54] <ubuntu_> hello some one here ?
[02:54] <[wiebel] > steigweis: system -> prefs -> preferded apps
[02:54] <fredforfaen> yep
[02:54] <onkarshinde> Is it possible to move /usr and /home to new bigger partition? how?
[02:54] <[wiebel] > sure
[02:54] <steigweis> [wiebel] : doesnt work
[02:54] <ubuntu_> hoary is the unstable ubuntu ?
[02:54] <Toma-> onkarshinde: yep.
[02:54] <[wiebel] > link it afterwards
[02:54] <[wiebel] > :>
[02:54] <ubuntu_> hoary is the unstable ubuntu ?
[02:54] <[wiebel] > no
[02:54] <[wiebel] > breezy is
[02:55] <fredforfaen> ubuntu_ no
[02:55] <ubuntu_> argh
[02:55] <ubuntu_> someone can u link me
[02:55] <onkarshinde> Toma-: How?
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_, hoary is stable ... breezy is unstable ... soon to be stable
[02:55] <ubuntu_> breezy iso link ?
[02:55] <damo21> how do you edit a package description to change a url inside the package
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> ubotu, ubuntulinux.com
[02:55] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:55] <onkarshinde> wickedpuppy: it is .org
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> oh lol
[02:55] <Toma-> onkarshinde: it involves modifying fstab so that they are mounted as /usr and /home on boot. google can help further
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> k ubuntulinux.org
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Toma-: As simple as that?
[02:56] <Toma-> onkarshinde: and obviously moving all the content to the new partitions
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Toma-: Thanks.
[02:56] <Toma-> no problem
[02:56] <onkarshinde> One more question. Is it possible to do dist-upgrade by using CD?
[02:57] <fredforfaen> onkarshinde it sould be
[02:57] <Toma-> if you setup the CD as a repo, sure
[02:57] <CookedGryphon> hi
[02:58] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know anything about the clemson version of ubuntu?
[02:58] <az[a] zel> what to people use to burn DVD/CD's here? I just discovered that nautilus blows
[02:58] <az[a] zel> s/to/do
[02:58] <Singapore> clemson yeah...
[02:58] <CookedGryphon> because i've tried to install the repositories, and most things download, but not maple
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> onkarshinde, whats the difference between .com and .org ?
[02:58] <Toma-> az[a] zel: k3b..
[02:58] <fistros4> que pacha?
[02:58] <ubuntu_> o tu coso
[02:58] <ubuntu_> dico a te..
[02:58] <ubuntu_> fregno co le baffe
[02:58] <az[a] zel> Toma-, means pulling in half of KDE :/
[02:58] <fistros4> fregno rirora
[02:58] <Toma-> az[a] zel: yeh :( but it is the best
[02:59] <Strike4ce> I have an ubuntu install cd how can I install and keep my current version of windows?
[02:59] <onkarshinde> wickedpuppy: I don't know.
[02:59] <CookedGryphon> can anyone hear me?
[02:59] <fistros4> eo
[02:59] <CookedGryphon> anyone here?
[02:59] <andoor> yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:59] <fistros4> oe
[02:59] <fistros4> eoe
[02:59] <fistros4> oeoeoe
[02:59] <Singapore> ok, mapple on clemson...
[02:59] <onkarshinde> az[a] zel: gnome-baker, in the universe repo
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> ....
[02:59] <lucaas> :)
[02:59] <andoor> fideputees!!
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> Strike4ce, you got to dual boot
[02:59] <Strike4ce> I have an ubuntu install cd how can I install and keep my current version of windows?
[02:59] <LP_> hello
[03:00] <Strike4ce> is that on the install cd?
[03:00] <LP_> i've just installed ubuntu
[03:00] <onkarshinde> Strike4ce: Have you made a partition for Ubuntu?
[03:00] <Seveas> Strike4ce, the installer will detect windows and give you the option to preserve it
[03:00] <Strike4ce> no what can I use to make a partition?
[03:00] <LP_> its working in command line but i have problems : server x doesn't start
[03:00] <Hobbsee> Strike4ce: the ubuntu installer
[03:00] <LP_> what can i do about it ?
[03:01] <onkarshinde> Strike4ce: Ubuntu installer can resize your existing partition
[03:01] <Toma-> errrr he'd have to make free space first.....
[03:01] <Strike4ce> oh so it will keep windows as the primary?
[03:01] <onkarshinde> LP_: What is problem exactly?
[03:01] <Seveas> Strike4ce, if you tell it to :)
[03:01] <Toma-> make sure you defrag your drive first Strike4ce if youre using windows on a fat32 drive
[03:01] <Strike4ce> will it ask me?
[03:01] <CookedGryphon> does anyone here have any experience of the clemson ubuntu distro?
[03:01] <Strike4ce> nfts and yes already defragged
[03:02] <Toma-> Strike4ce: good werk ;)
[03:02] <LP_> Onkarshinde : i cannot start the graphic window
[03:02] <orehon> Strike4ce cfdisk ?
[03:02] <CookedGryphon> cos i tried adding the extra repositories, and downlaod a few things alright, but then when i try to download maple it comes up 403 forbidden
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> CookedGryphon, clemson ?
[03:02] <CookedGryphon> and it doens't say anythign on the site about having to pay or anything
[03:02] <CookedGryphon> so i dont getit
[03:02] <onkarshinde> LP_: Did you rebooted into some other OS before first time booting into Ubuntu?
[03:02] <Strike4ce> Do i have to put the command in to keep windows or will it ask me?
[03:02] <orehon> CookedGryphon maybe the repositories was offline! or broken
[03:02] <johnsie2k> hi... what is some good peer2peer software for ubuntu?
[03:03] <Toma-> LP_: "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log" what does the (EE) line say?
[03:03] <marcellus> I am dist-upgrading my breezy and libapache2-mod-perl2 has this change in /etc/apache2/mods-available/perl.conf  -PerlModule Apache2 +# Hi mom!    What gives?
[03:03] <LP_> onkar: no Toma: i go to try it right now
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> hello?
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> anyone here? damni can't see anyone typing
[03:03] <Mercutio150> Ok back for more help...
[03:03] <Strike4ce> when it asks me about windows do I need to put in a special command?
[03:03] <id_sonic> Who can send me a notebook?
[03:04] <vengeful> lol
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> ... notebook ?
[03:04] <lemics_> the FBI
[03:04] <Strike4ce> or is it pretty simple?
[03:04] <onkarshinde> Strike4ce: No command.
[03:04] <Mercutio150> I cannot find the decoders for wmv files, anyone help me out??
[03:04] <id_sonic> wickedpuppy will you ?
[03:04] <johnsie2k> merc they are on a website now
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> Strike4ce, pls backup everything first though ...
[03:04] <lemics_> watch your pr0ns on windows :)
[03:04] <Toma-> !w32codecs
[03:04] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> id_sonic, sure .. you want a4 size ?
[03:04] <ameer> when i write this command it says couldnt find sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[03:04] <Strike4ce> so it will prompt me and I just need to answer yes to keep windows and then it will make my pc a dual boot system?
[03:05] <ameer> plss help me
[03:05] <id_sonic> wickedpuppy yes~
[03:05] <WhyvasLT> id_sonic, i can send you one
[03:05] <onkarshinde> ameer: No need of 386
[03:05] <ameer> thanks
[03:05] <id_sonic> WhyvasLT really?
[03:05] <onkarshinde> ameer: sudo apt-get -f install mplayer
[03:05] <Khantozavri> Hi folks, i'm having hard time mounting windows shares, it tells me "client signing mandatory"...
[03:05] <WhyvasLT> id_sonic, yeah man
[03:05] <WhyvasLT> id_sonic, just send me some money
[03:06] <necronudist> wah...too caos here
[03:06] <LP_> Toma : tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log says : no such file or directory
[03:06] <id_sonic> WhyvasLT : How much?
[03:06] <Khantozavri> i know that cifs should fix this, and tried this on the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12306
[03:06] <Toma-> hmm
[03:06] <ameer> it says couldnt find package
[03:06] <WhyvasLT> 1399$
[03:06] <Khantozavri> however, now when i use sudo mount -a it tells me that frong fs type... what can i do?
[03:06] <Toma-> LP_: is Xorg installed?
[03:06] <id_sonic> WhyvasLT OK
[03:06] <LP_> how can i find out ?
[03:07] <Toma-> try running "X"
[03:07] <Toma-> or even "Xorg"
[03:07] <id_sonic> WhyvasLT like this::  sudo apt-get install $1399
[03:07] <LP_> Toma- : startx ?
[03:07] <Toma-> yeh that too
[03:07] <vieirar> Hi is apt-get dist-upgrade safe right know or will it upgrade a bunch of unstable apps. I would like to upgrade to breezy
[03:07] <id_sonic> ~~
[03:07] <anthony> Hey, I installed the lastest version Sun Java Runtime 1.5.0 as accorded to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java; but when I do "java -version" it still says 1.4.2. Any ideas?
[03:07] <aftertaf> vieirar:  99.99% safe
[03:08] <WhyvasLT> yes
[03:08] <LP_> Toma: it says : command not found
[03:08] <Khantozavri> anyone on cifs?
[03:08] <somnium> hi @all
[03:08] <id_sonic> WhyvasLT =)
[03:08] <Toma-> LP_: you have no X.
[03:08] <necronudist> sorry...does anyone have a notebook HP Pavilion zv6181ea?
[03:08] <WhyvasLT> anthony, reboot
[03:08] <vieirar> aftertaf: Thanks.. I always know there are some risks but I know for awhile debian was in transistion
[03:08] <anthony> WhyvastLT: Okay, let me give that a try.
[03:08] <Toma-> LP_: did install finish? or did it mess up?
[03:08] <somnium> what about the breezy iptables-package?? module libipt_recent is missing?!?!?
[03:08] <blueskies> does anyone know how i might get my video to work right i am only getting 640x480 .. have ATI Rage 128 video?
[03:09] <LP_> Toma: it says install was ok and started looking for new packages than said there is a problem with xfree86
[03:09] <Toma-> blueskies: install the ati drivers
[03:09] <id_sonic> I don't like the prosser "gam_server"
[03:09] <blueskies> where do i get them ?
[03:09] <steigweis> this is annoying: "send to" in the contextmenu of nautilus has evolution as default but i want to send with thunderbird... tb is already my "preffered mail application". how can i make nautilus to sent to thunderbird? (nautilus 2.10.1)
[03:09] <az[a] zel> hmm, gnome-baker needs work.. bah.. i'm just going to install k3b
[03:09] <necronudist> blueskies guess
[03:09] <Toma-> LP_: xfree86 is what you need installed
[03:10] <LP_> Toma: I'm sorry to asks but how can i do this ?
[03:10] <aftertaf> blueskies!!!!!!!
[03:10] <aftertaf> !ati
[03:10] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:10] <Toma-> apt-get install xfree68-server i guess
[03:10] <Toma-> im using Xorg here
[03:10] <aftertaf> who is talking about xfree86? we are using xorg here people
[03:10] <aftertaf> ubuntu uses xorg
[03:10] <necronudist> me, i've got an ati x200 who doesn't works with any driver :D
[03:10] <Toma-> aftertaf: well his installer is complaing about xfree
[03:10] <necronudist> you lucky
[03:10] <somnium> where or how can i make a bugreport for a breezy-package???
[03:11] <aftertaf> somnium:  bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[03:11] <markus> Hi. How do I verify all installed packets, if all files are unharmed? I have a lot of stuff in /lost+found and want to reinstall the harmed packages.
[03:11] <markus> dpkg -C outputs nothing
[03:12] <somnium> aftertaf: thx... but i don't know if its a bug :-/
[03:12] <aftertaf> Toma-:  LP_ what installer???
[03:12] <aftertaf> somnium:  search there and see... or ask here ;)
[03:12] <Toma-> "LP_ Toma: it says install was ok and started looking for new packages than said there is a problem with xfree86"
[03:12] <orehon> somnium go to google.com and search about it
[03:12] <ameer> is ubuntu or redhat more stable
[03:12] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg should install base x packages and remove xfree
[03:12] <Toma-> im guessing post-install?
[03:12] <id_sonic_> id_sonic w
[03:13] <Toma-> ameer: redhat... or fedora?
[03:13] <aftertaf> Toma-:  oh ok... really from the cd?
[03:13] <orehon> aftertaf no... this command will not remove xfree
[03:13] <Toma-> aftertaf: not sure, didnt ask that
[03:13] <johnsie2k> installing updates has stopped in the middle of installing something... what should I do?
[03:13] <LP_> Toma + Aftertaf : apt says : command not found
[03:13] <ameer> toma: ubuntu and redhat
[03:14] <orehon> johnsie2k start again... no problem!
[03:14] <johnsie2k> uhhh how do i close the window
[03:14] <anthony> Hey, I just posted this but I installed Java Runtime 1.5.0, but after reboot, when I do "java -version" it still says 1.4.2, any idea? I'm using Breezy.
[03:14] <Toma-> LP_: you dnt have apt-get either?
[03:14] <somnium> aftertaf: on bugzilla there is no such bug...  and google doesn't know it, too. but we have checked it four times... it is a bug ;-)
[03:14] <LP_> Toma : it seems like not even if i don't understand as at the end of the install it did connect to servers to do updates
[03:14] <somnium> any developers inside?
[03:15] <Toma-> LP_: re-install
[03:15] <orehon> johnsie2k hm... use ps aux | grep processname ... get the pid and kill using # kill -9 pidnumber
[03:15] <somnium> orehon: no such bug on bugzilla or google....
[03:16] <orehon> anthony remove all and install java runtime 1.5.0
[03:16] <LP_> Toma : ok thanks . i was afraid so :(
[03:16] <Toma-> LP_: it'll be easier for everyone this way :) ALSO, check the media for errors. u could have a damaged install cd
[03:16] <aftertaf> somnium:  what is the pb?
[03:16] <orehon> somnium hm.. then post for then... goto ubuntu.org or goto ubuntu's forum!
[03:17] <anthony> orehon: I'm not familiar with Linux yet, could you tell me how to go about uninstalling all of the Java components and which specific packages you want me to uninstall?
[03:17] <nani> elo
[03:17] <LP_> Toma : ok. what do you mean by check the media exactly ?
[03:17] <Toma-> check for burn errors/scratches, etc
[03:17] <LP_> Toma : ok. thanks
[03:18] <orehon> anthony: what's ur linux distro? ubuntu?
[03:18] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:18] <anthony> orehon: Ubuntu 5.10 RC
[03:18] <BiSK-8> when i try 2 play a file with totem it sais: There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/bisk8/Articolo%2031%20-%20Tocca%20Qui.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins      what should i do?
[03:19] <somnium> aftertaf: there is a lib missing in iptables... /lib/iptables/libipt_recent.so is missing...
[03:19] <BiSK-8> oops
[03:19] <orehon> ok... wait... just a minute... i'm working... and a so boring client it's here !
[03:19] <Seveas> !tell BiSK-8 about mp3
[03:19] <aftertaf> file a bug then....
[03:19] <LP_> Toma : is it possible to install from the live cd ?
[03:19] <somnium> aftertaf: i compiled the package myself an i've got the module in my kernel... but he won't compile thar lib :-/
[03:19] <Toma-> nope
[03:19] <johnsie2k> !mplayer
[03:19] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:20] <Toma-> technically, yes, but no.
[03:20] <johnsie2k> !w32codecs
[03:20] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[03:20] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom
[03:20] <BiSK-8> seveas, it was a aptitude camand... can u tell me the command?
[03:20] <anthony> orehon: Ok np, when ever you are available.
[03:21] <orehon> anthony try it!
[03:21] <orehon> aptitude install build-essential java-package java-common fakeroot
[03:21] <orehon> fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin
[03:21] <Seveas> BiSK-8, aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad may work
[03:21] <aftertaf> ahhhh. no can help somnium :/
[03:21] <ProN00b> lolololol
[03:21] <orehon> then
[03:21] <orehon> anthony
[03:21] <orehon> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update03_i386.deb
[03:21] <orehon> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:21] <orehon> sudo ln -f /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /etc/alternatives/netscape-javaplugin.so
[03:22] <anthony> orehon: K, got it, trying it out now.
[03:22] <orehon> do it and report some problem!
[03:22] <orehon> ok
[03:25] <LP_> Toma : ok i'll try again with the install cd then ;)
[03:25] <johnsie2k> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla wont get flashplayer for moxilla
[03:25] <ProN00b> i got a lil problem here, if i plugin my usb mp3 player (usb mass storage device) and load new songs on it remove some and plug it out it works perfectly, i can play everything i loaded on it and everything i removed is gone, but if i turn it off then and turn it on later the player finds no song on it through everything seems to be ok and on there for ubuntu if i plug it in again
[03:25] <Toma-> cool
[03:26] <{Mike}> if I have compiled a module, and have a .ko file in my home directory, where do I put it so I can modprobe it by name?
[03:27] <Seveas> /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[03:28] <{Mike}> doesn't work
[03:28] <lon3tree> anyone can help me with pptp and pptpclient?
[03:28] <hwaara> hey Seveas and kbrooks, I still get the same build error when building mozilla/thunderbird. It's complaining about undefined XRemoteClient, XChangeProperty, XFree, XOpenDisplay, etc.  Ring a bell? :)
[03:28] <{Mike}> m249 modules # find | grep abit
[03:29] <hyphenated> {Mike}: you need to do a /sbin/depmod -a after putting new stuff there
[03:29] <{Mike}> ./2.6.13/extra/abituguru.ko
[03:29] <Seveas> hwaara, did you do the apt-get build-dep trick?
[03:29] <{Mike}> cool cheers
[03:29] <morten0609> hello - I have a problem with viewing web pages on Breezy - does this page: www.bogguiden.dk look like crap on your computers too?
[03:29] <hwaara> Seveas, yes
[03:29] <{Mike}> hyphenated: works, cheers
[03:29] <anthony> orehon: Woot! Thanks a lot, the sudo update-alternatives --config java did the trick, just had to change the default java runtime path. Thanks a bunch!
[03:29] <morten0609> it looks fine on Windows - on the same browser version (Firefox 1.0.7)
[03:29] <Seveas> morten0609, yeah, top left is borked
[03:29] <hwaara> Seveas, maybe I should do it for the whole of mozilla, since it's basically the same
[03:29] <Mercutio150> how do I install the codecs I just downlaoded?
[03:30] <morten0609> yeah - and the text is supoosed to be white too
[03:30] <morten0609> I filed this as a bug, but they do not believe it to be Ubuntu-specific
[03:30] <onkarshinde> Mercutio150: what codecs?
[03:30] <Mercutio150> I downloaded the w32 codecs to play wmv files
[03:31] <hyphenated> ProN00b: interesting. do you just unplug it? can you choose a "safely remove" option instead?
[03:31] <morten0609> but it looks like this on all Ubuntu browsers afaik
[03:31] <onkarshinde> Mercutio150: 'sudo dpkg --install filename.deb'
[03:31] <orehon> anthony ok.. thks !
[03:31] <Seveas> how did you download them/what is the file they're in called?
[03:31] <Mercutio150> ok thanks
[03:31] <Tb0n3> question: how do you unlink a file
[03:32] <Seveas> morten0609, probably the 'designers' of that site made it look good in IE and don't care about other bro\wsers
[03:32] <hyphenated> Tb0n3: with the 'unlink' command
[03:32] <BiSK-8> seveas, i tried.... it wont work.... ubotu gave me the link but it wasnt useful..... what can i do for totem codecs?
[03:32] <morten0609> no, cuz it looks fine in all browsers on windows
[03:32] <Seveas> Tb0n3, unlink filename
[03:32] <morten0609> including firefox
[03:32] <Tb0n3> seriously?
[03:32] <Tb0n3> ...
[03:32] <Seveas> BiSK-8, did you install totem-xine?
[03:32] <orehon> Seveas yeah.. it's so normal! and i hate all this fuckin' designers!
[03:32] <hyphenated> Tb0n3: can you rephrase the question with some overall goal?
[03:33] <hyphenated> Tb0n3: because calling unlink on it directly is usually not what you want :-)
[03:33] <morten0609> I don't think it is a design flaw, it only looks like this on my Linux computer
[03:33] <BiSK-8> seveas.... i think so but there seems 2 be a problem... the apt-get is acting wierd since breezy came out
[03:33] <Toma-> morten0609: press ctrl - a few times
[03:33] <Seveas> morten0609, try firefox on windows...
[03:33] <Toma-> or ctrl +
[03:33] <ProN00b> hyphenated, didn't see one
[03:33] <Seveas> BiSK-8, describe 'weird'?
[03:33] <Alex_C> im trying to use the blackdown java 1.4 installer, but it doesnt work, any suggestions?
[03:33] <BiSK-8> seveas, alot of things r missing and some dont work
[03:33] <Seveas> and if you use totem-xine you need w32codecs
[03:33] <Tb0n3> I used the ls -s command to link a file to another folder so I could activate java, but it doesn't seem to be working, I want to undo it and try again
[03:34] <hyphenated> ProN00b: does an icon appear on your desktop when you plug it in?
[03:34] <Toma-> morten0609: just a different default font size i do elieve
[03:34] <Tb0n3> and it'd basicly be good knowledge
[03:34] <BiSK-8> seveas, im on hoary
[03:34] <Seveas> goes for hoary too
[03:34] <onkarshinde> Tb0n3: Why don't you just rm that file?
[03:34] <hyphenated> Tb0n3: ah. there's a big difference between unlinking a file and removing a link :-) you want 'rm' instead
[03:34] <Tb0n3> k
[03:34] <orehon> hyphenated what are u want?
[03:35] <orehon> hyphenated just unlink a file?
[03:35] <hyphenated> orehon: not me
[03:35] <Alex_C> im trying to use the blackdown java 1.4 installer, but it doesnt work, any suggestions?
[03:35] <BiSK-8> seveas, Il pacchetto totem-xine non ha versioni disponibili, ma .
[03:35] <BiSK-8> Questo significa che il pacchetto  diventato obsoleto on disponibile all'interno da un'altra sorgente
[03:35] <BiSK-8> E: Il pacchetto totem-xine non ha candidati da installare
[03:35] <BiSK-8> bisk8@bisk8:~$
[03:35] <BiSK-8>    this means that the package totem.xine hase become obsolete
[03:35] <Seveas> BiSK-8, NEVER paste in here
[03:35] <BiSK-8> sorry
[03:35] <morten0609> nope, that's only one of the problems - colors are wrong too, I do not think it uses the CSS at all
[03:35] <Hoxzer^> how do I eject CDrom with command line?
[03:35] <Seveas> BiSK-8, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[03:36] <Seveas> Hoxzer^, ejectg
[03:36] <hyphenated> Hoxzer^: 'eject' usually works
[03:36] <Seveas> eject
[03:36] <Toma-> morten0609: looks fine here...
[03:36] <ProN00b> didn't think of that, hyphenated, plugging it out might really fuck it up on ubuntu *_* they should include that save remove as well as the eject cd options visible in the nautilus window
[03:36] <Strike4ce> ok i started the install but backed out when it came to the partition part it said my minumum size was 48.6gb?
[03:36] <AlphaFaction> hey all, what do you gyes think the best id3 tag editor is to deal with a whole stack of albums? Ive tried cow bell but it seems a bit unstable
[03:36] <orehon> hyphenated who?
[03:36] <Strike4ce> does that mean it will make a partition that size for ubuntu?
[03:36] <Toma-> AlphaFaction: xmms
[03:36] <hyphenated> orehon: I was responding to a question, not asking one
[03:36] <BiSK-8> sevas, where is the sources.list?
[03:37] <vbgunz> I have a question... If I wanted to stay on the completely supported side of Ubuntu I should *not* enable these links in /etc/apt/sources correct? : breezy main universe multiverse restricted, breezy-security main restricted, breezy-security universe
[03:37] <AlphaFaction> Toma-: a plug in for it or somthing? or can it do bulk id3 tag renaming now?
[03:37] <morten0609> Toma, is the text in the left column white?
[03:37] <orehon> hyphenated ok.. sorry! =/ but mu english is so sux! i'm from brazil! sorry!
[03:37] <Seveas> BiSK-8, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <BiSK-8> sevas, is it /etc/apt/sources.list=
[03:37] <Strike4ce> ok i started the install but backed out when it came to the partition part it said my minumum size was 48.6gb?
[03:37] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: These are alright, you can enable them...
[03:37] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:37] <hyphenated> ProN00b: probably. the "safely remove" type of thing will sync the data to memory, force it to write more permanently and so on
[03:37] <Seveas> orehon, #ubuntu-br :)
[03:37] <Alex_C> can anyone see wat im typing?
[03:37] <BiSK-8> sevas, and where do i got a new 1?
[03:37] <Hoxzer^> Lol
[03:37] <Toma-> AlphaFaction: bulk... eep. not sure if one exists.. what do u need to do?
[03:37] <orehon> BiSK-8 /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <Hoxzer^> I cannot eject my first CDrom
[03:37] <Toma-> morten0609: yes
[03:37] <Hoxzer^> :( it ejects only the second
[03:37] <Toma-> morten0609: want a screenshot?
[03:37] <Seveas> BiSK-8, put it on the pastebin first :)
[03:38] <Strike4ce> anyone help?
[03:38] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: However, some of those repositories are not maintained by Canonical, only by a bunch of Open Source guys :)
[03:38] <hyphenated> ProN00b: it's worth a try. you can try to manually sync it with the 'sync' command
[03:38] <BiSK-8> sevas, what's the delete comand ?
[03:38] <Hoxzer^> it does it with eject cdrom0 and cdrom1
[03:38] <Seveas> !tell vbgunz zbout repos
[03:38] <morten0609> Toma: whoa! and you are using breezy
[03:38] <morten0609> ?
[03:38] <vbgunz> I mean, if I just enable the first two, I'll be ok and won't be missing much correct? I am new to Linux and would like to keep Ubuntu as stable as possible without worrying about extra goodies
[03:38] <orehon> Seveas oh thks...
[03:38] <ProN00b> hyphenated, there is only umount
[03:38] <AlphaFaction> Toma-: got 300 albums half of which have stuffed id3 tags and to do them all by hand would be a mission
[03:38] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: I doubt you'd want to use Ubuntu without universe thouh.
[03:38] <hyphenated> ProN00b: before running umount, run 'sync'
[03:38] <Toma-> morten0609: umm i think so.. 5.04
[03:38] <Strike4ce> help?
[03:38] <vbgunz> Tomcat_: really?
[03:38] <Seveas> hyphenated, umount runs sync ;)
[03:38] <thenuke> vbgunz: obviously, if you dont need them, why have them?
[03:38] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: Don't worry... enable everything you want... just don't put in 3rd party repositories.
[03:38] <N6REJ> ok guys, this is going to sound like a HORRIBLY stupid question, BUT here goes anyway... my webserver is nat'd behind my router.  dns is being provided by someone else outside my network, so that is resolving to the machine just fine, BUT when I ask the server what its hostname is, it just says "adam" when I ask it what its hostname --fqdn is it says localhost.localdomain!  Whats going on...
[03:38] <N6REJ> ...and how do I fix it?
[03:38] <BiSK-8> whats the delete command through terminal?
[03:38] <ProN00b> hyphenated, how can i format the disk again ?
[03:38] <hyphenated> Seveas: yeah, but just unplugging it does neither
[03:38] <morten0609> no that is not breezy, that is the one before that
[03:38] <Seveas> !tell vbgunz about repos
[03:38] <Toma-> AlphaFaction: ahh and how do u expect to name them all? ;P
[03:39] <morten0609> so this IS a breezy-problem!
[03:39] <thenuke> vbgunz: but like you are told, they can be considered safe.
[03:39] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: Ubuntu will stay stable if you only enable stuff from the ubuntu servers... and universe/multiverse is on the ubuntu servers.
[03:39] <Seveas> BiSK-8, why do you want to delete it?
[03:39] <vbgunz> thenuke: I don't know if I need them and was just curious maybe the official Ubuntu team releases enough so not to worry about any goodies outside of anything Ubuntu official...
[03:39] <BiSK-8> u told me to seveas
[03:39] <Seveas> BiSK-8, no
[03:39] <BiSK-8> ???
[03:39] <Seveas> i told you to put it on the pastebin
[03:39] <Strike4ce> the install is asking me about partition size can I make it the minumum?
[03:39] <thenuke> vbgunz: welll, you know when you need them :D
[03:39] <Seveas> !pastebin
[03:39] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:39] <BiSK-8> ohhhhh
[03:39] <BiSK-8> sry
[03:39] <AlphaFaction> Toma-: with difficulty :P cow bell does a good job guessing but its unstable as hell and keeps crashing
[03:39] <BiSK-8> i though u said recycle bin seveas
[03:39] <Toma-> i see
[03:39] <thenuke> vbgunz: try to install something, wont work, then you can enable extra-repos to propably find it
[03:40] <Seveas> BiSK-8, well, I didn't ;))
[03:40] <Strike4ce> I need some help here
[03:40] <thenuke> vbgunz: but if you are using synaptic to search thru the stuff you might want to have, then you should enable those extra repos, and should not worry about them
[03:40] <vbgunz> thenuke: yeah, I think I rather take that route for now... I just want Ubuntu the way the dev teams feels it'll be most stable... No conflicts by a long shot if possible, if Ubuntu could help it
[03:40] <Alex_C> can someone please tell me if they can read this?
[03:40] <N6REJ> yes alex
[03:41] <morten0609> are there anybody else here who could check out this site on Breezy: www.bogguiden.dk and tell me if the text on the left column is white or dark blue?
[03:41] <BiSK-8> seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2966
[03:41] <johnsie2k> now that I have downladed w32codecs, what do I do with the .deb file?
[03:41] <Seveas> johnsie2k, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*deb
[03:41] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:41] <Seveas> BiSK-8, ghe, your sources.list is broken :)
[03:41] <johnsie2k> cheers
[03:42] <Alex_C> thank you
[03:42] <BiSK-8> seveas: what??? what do i gotta do?
[03:42] <Tb0n3> question:how do you del a directory?
[03:42] <Alex_C> can anyone help - im trying to use the blackdown java 1.4 installer, but it doesnt work, any suggestions?
[03:42] <comforteagle> I was trying to add the non-free miltimedia stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats How do I add the GPG key  where are they?
[03:42] <Seveas> BiSK-8, this command: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:42] <orehon> N6REJ : YourAre looking into your machine...
[03:42] <vbgunz> thenuke: that brings me to my next question, I've been really tempted to go with the w32codecs, libdvdcss, etc... I heard the best way to get them is to temporarily open up those links and add some and download the codecs, etc, then comment those links out so no accidental updates would occur... This sounds fine *but* how in the world do they get updated? Manually?
[03:42] <Seveas> and then sudo apt-get update
[03:42] <Hoxzer^> can I somehow mount iso so softwares think the CD is in CD-driver?
[03:42] <orehon> N6REJ : Try to ping (to see the hostname of you node)
[03:42] <andoor> yeyeyeye
[03:42] <N6REJ> orehon: yeah.... i'm not understanding though why its not coming back with the real domainname.
[03:43] <KgB_> hi
[03:43] <N6REJ> orehon: ok, standby
[03:43] <andoor> algu d'Espanya
[03:43] <andoor> ??
[03:43] <Seveas> !es
[03:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> Alex_C, blackdown is in synaptic right ?
[03:43] <kbrooks> !javadeb
[03:43] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[03:43] <KgB_> i tried intall ubuntu on a pentium 100 but i got a problem
[03:43] <kbrooks> use the above!
[03:43] <BiSK-8> seveas, it wont work
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> Hoxzer^, sudo mount -o loop /mnt/iso /path/to/iso
[03:43] <kbrooks> DO NOT use blackdown
[03:44] <Seveas> BiSK-8, what's the error?
[03:44] <phoenixbyrd> ok, trying to install vmware, but it says this
[03:44] <Seveas> kbrooks, why not?
[03:44] <phoenixbyrd> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:44] <phoenixbyrd> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[03:44] <Alex_C> wickedpuppy, no, it was throught terminal
[03:44] <kbrooks> Seveas: uh, nalioth said it is less featured
[03:44] <KgB_> it try find (or install) something like firmware-... then it try 3 or 4 times
[03:44] <Seveas> phoenixbyrd, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:44] <thenuke> vbgunz: yes, enable repos what have those, and then apt-get install stuff, then apt-get update gets them updated if you have those repos still enabled
[03:44] <Alex_C> wickedpuppy, i will have a check in synaptic
[03:44] <phoenixbyrd> ty
[03:44] <Seveas> kbrooks, not really...
[03:44] <BiSK-8> seveas, its really long but its in italian... pretty much the same thing though
[03:44] <macgeek> when is ubuntu 5.10 officially released
[03:45] <kbrooks> Seveas: huh?
[03:45] <Seveas> BiSK-8, did you do both the wget and the apt-get command?
[03:45] <thenuke> vbgunz: And am I wrong? but I think that w32codecs and libdvd can be found from ubuntus extra-repos?
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> macgeek, topic
[03:45] <Seveas> macgeek, /topic
[03:45] <vbgunz> thenuke: so I can download them. Comment them out. and still stay updated?
[03:45] <KgB_> then it stay on black display.. and dont continue the install
[03:45] <N6REJ> orehon: ok, apparently I don't know how to do that.... when I ping www.cogyfarm.com it just gives me the router ip.
[03:45] <KgB_> anyone can help me?
[03:45] <thenuke> vbgunz: they wont get updated if you comment the repos out where they came from
[03:45] <BiSK-8> seveas, what does wget have 2 do with it?
[03:45] <Seveas> BiSK-8, this command: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:45] <Alex_C> wickedpuppy, it isnt in synaptic at all
[03:45] <Mercutio150> ok I installed my wmv codecs and now totem just shuts off every time I try toplaya file...
[03:45] <macgeek> oh heh
[03:45] <Seveas> that will install a new sources.list
[03:45] <Tb0n3> Question: what command deletes a directory?
[03:45] <vbgunz> thenuke: you're correct *but* as I said i was tempted because I lived so long with it on Windows... For example, all movie trailers come in w32codecs basically :P
[03:45] <KgB_> i need some help..
[03:45] <Seveas> Tb0n3, rmdir
[03:46] <Seveas> Tb0n3, if there are still files in it: rm -r
[03:46] <damo21> Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:46] <damo21>  Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[03:46] <damo21>  Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
[03:46] <thenuke> vbgunz: as I think that they are not so critical things in your system, you could just enable those repos like once in a month or so on, and then do the update and then disable those repos again
[03:46] <Mercutio150> anyone think they can help?
[03:46] <Seveas> damo21, set a locale your system supports :)
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> Alex_C, have you enabled universe and multiverse ?
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> they are in my repo ...
[03:46] <orehon> N6REJ hey dude.. ur machine was with a fake ip?
[03:46] <thenuke> vbgunz: but I really dont understand why you would need to disable those repos =) and not to have them enabled all the time
[03:46] <N6REJ> orehon: nah, its nat'd.
[03:46] <Answer> Hello #ubuntu
[03:47] <N6REJ> morning wicked
[03:47] <KgB_> Seveas i m getting problems when i try install the ubuntu on a pentium 100
[03:47] <thenuke> vbgunz: as you will have to install stuff from those repos by your self :D they are not a problem in your repository-list
[03:47] <orehon> N6REJ ok finee!
[03:47] <Mercutio150> is there another step I need to do after dpkg?
[03:47] <BiSK-8> seveas,im doin an update
[03:47] <damo21> Seveas: I did dpkg-reconfigure locales and set up en-AU.UTF8 or whatever
[03:47] <BiSK-8> so just a sec
[03:47] <Alex_C> wickedpuppy, im only new to ubuntu, my friend helped me load it, so not sure
[03:47] <Answer> I have several different boot options in GRUB, and i'm wondering if there is a way to pre-select an option when choosing Restart (either in ubuntu or windows)?
[03:47] <orehon> N6REJ dude.. try restart the dns server
[03:47] <Seveas> KgB_, I'm not surprised...
[03:47] <KgB_> Seveas it try install(or find) a package firmware-....
[03:47] <vbgunz> thenuke: It's just lately Ubuntu feels slow *but* it shouldn't be... Windows is amazingly fast on a first install... At one point Ubuntu felt fast *but* lately it feels a big sluggish and I never enabled a backport... I am thinking some things I've downloaded by enabling those extra links probably messed something up :(
[03:47] <olicat> has anyone else lost colour coding in their terminals?
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[03:47] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> Alex_C, check that link
[03:48] <KgB_> Seveas oh much peoples got same error?
[03:48] <Seveas> KgB_, no, but P100 is not supported
[03:48] <N6REJ> orehon: no dns server locally, it not needed as far as I know... dns is served by my registrar
[03:48] <KgB_> Seveas oh
[03:48] <orehon> N6REJ man report ur problem again! =P
[03:48] <KgB_> ok..
[03:48] <Mercutio150> can anyone help me?
[03:48] <northern_monk> I have to create my sound card every time I boot using sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3 && sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp, here is my etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2967 how do I create it at boot?
[03:48] <thenuke> vbgunz: what kind of things you have downloaded then
[03:49] <BiSK-8> seveas, it worx
[03:49] <damo21> Seveas: Trying to get Mathematica to work but the locales arent working..... does that mean i should revert to the ISOxx ones instead of UTF-8?
[03:49] <BiSK-8> thx
[03:49] <Toma-> with ubuntu, when youre asked to put in the root password for synaptic and such, does it keep the focus on the password dialog?
[03:49] <aftertaf> :) Seveas
[03:49] <Toma-> it doesnt in kubuntu... :(
[03:49] <aftertaf> the bot battler......
[03:49] <daved> Toma-, yes
[03:49] <orehon> N6REJ where are u from man?
[03:49] <Seveas> damo21, mathematica once worked for me with UTF-8 (I no longer have mathematica though)
[03:49] <Answer> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configre -a' to correct hte problem"
[03:49] <Toma-> hmmm. bug filing time
[03:49] <N6REJ> orehon: LOL, ok, here goes.... my website resolves fine!  www.cogyfarm.com, BUT, when I try to use the machines name to get the fqdn it comes back as localhost.localdomain
[03:49] <Syruss> anyone here got drip to work? It just segfaults on me
[03:49] <N6REJ> orehon: iowa, though california originally
[03:50] <hwaara> is there a way to search for ubuntu/debian packages based on the symbols in them ?
[03:50] <johnsie2k> anyone know what happened to mplayer in the repository?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> johnsie2k, nothing ? still there
[03:50] <damo21> Seveas: It runs, but dumps a lot of warnings related to locale C
[03:50] <Seveas> johnsie2k, not much...
[03:50] <johnsie2k> it yped sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and it couldnt find it
[03:50] <Seveas> damo21, start it with "LC_ALL=C /path/to/Mathematica"
[03:51] <damo21> Okay.., ill try
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> johnsie2k, try without 386
[03:51] <apollo2011> hello everyone
[03:51] <entil> hello
[03:51] <johnsie2k> sudo apt-get install mplayersame again
[03:51] <johnsie2k> oops
[03:51] <johnsie2k> same again
[03:51] <apollo2011> I upgraded to Breezy yesterday.  I have 2 problems.  One is a minor graphical tweak.
[03:51] <Seveas> johnsie2k, it's not mplayer, but mplayer-586 -k7 -ppc (etc...)
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> johnsie2k, i gotta ask ... have you enabled multiverse and universe ?
[03:52] <Mercutio150> is there another player for wmb besides totem??
[03:52] <entil> just a quick question if someone can point me the right way (to the right spot as I couldn't find it in the wiki ;)
[03:52] <apollo2011> First, XMMS no longer starts, I get an error if I run it in the console
[03:52] <JackTorrence> When is breezy stable?
[03:52] <Seveas> Mercutio150, mplayer
[03:52] <thenuke> johnsie2k: Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-386_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb  so it seems to be in multiverse repo.. do you dont have that enabled I guess
[03:52] <entil> is it true uploading upgrades to universe is forbidden?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> JackTorrence: 13th of oct
[03:52] <Seveas> apollo2011, errors go in the pastebin :)
[03:52] <Mercutio150> what about for free Seveas?
[03:52] <Seveas> Mercutio150, mplayer is free
[03:52] <entil> ie. if a user needs something from universe and it turns out to have a security issue, he's stuck because of ubuntu policy?
[03:52] <Mercutio150> oh I thought stuff on multiverse you had to pay for
[03:52] <Seveas> entil, no
[03:53] <Seveas> Mercutio150, no you don't
[03:53] <JackTorrence> Hobbsee, Is ther a way of upgrading without nuking current data or is a fresh install reccommended?
[03:53] <apollo2011> Second, I originally installed this system as Kubuntu Hoary so when I upgraded, the boot screen was the Kubuntu screen.  Since I am using Ubuntu (Gnome) now, I would like it to be switched to the Ubuntu boot screen.  How can I switch it?
[03:53] <ProN00b> wtf !
[03:53] <Mercutio150> Fell like an idiot again....
[03:53] <ProN00b> why do songs start playin if i move my mouse over them !
[03:53] <N6REJ> Hobbsee: how do you set the fqdn of a machine in ubuntu?
[03:53] <spola> entil, the point of open source is he can run whatever patches he wants. noone forces you to use anything
[03:53] <Seveas> apollo2011, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:53] <orehon> N6REJ are u unblocked the server's port ?
[03:53] <Hobbsee> !tell JackTorrence about !upgradetobreezy
[03:53] <ctr> hi
[03:53] <ProN00b> i been using ubuntu for over month now and i just realized that
[03:53] <lemics_> hi
[03:53] <Hobbsee> !tell JackTorrence about !upgrade2breezy
[03:54] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[03:54] <johnsie2k> haha thanks... forgot to add muliverse etc.
[03:54] <Hobbsee> N6REJ: say what?
[03:54] <entil> this other guy on this other channel(tm) is trying to explain to me that because ubuntu doesn't support universe/multiverse the universe/multiverse maintainers are forbidden from uploading anything new, be it security or not
[03:54] <N6REJ> orehon: I don't understand your q... the webserver functions fine.
[03:54] <N6REJ> Hobbsee: how do you set the fqdn of a machine in ubuntu?
[03:54] <Seveas> ProN00b, ccol feature, isn't it :)
[03:54] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone please help me with ddclient ?
[03:54] <ProN00b> yeah
[03:54] <psichron> !tell psichron about !upgrade2breezy
[03:54] <Hobbsee> N6REJ: got no idea, dont even know what it is
[03:54] <pitti> entil: that's not completely true
[03:54] <JackTorrence> !upgrade2breezy
[03:54] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:54] <entil> which sounds un-ubuntuish
[03:54] <highvoltage>  /win 12
[03:54] <orehon> N6REJ ok..
[03:54] <pitti> entil: security updates to universe and multiverse are appreciated, but they have to come from the community
[03:54] <Mercutio150> ok It won't let me get to the multivers repos
[03:54] <entil> pitti: probably the implication is that if a DD happens to maintain an ubuntu package as well they may upload one at their leisure
[03:54] <entil> yeah
[03:55] <pitti> entil: the problem so far is that nobody wants to care for universe security updates
[03:55] <apollo2011> The XMMS error I am getting is: http://pastebin.com/389063
[03:55] <pitti> entil: there is a fixed procedure for universe updates, everybody can help with them
[03:55] <Syruss> what's the easiest gui for ripping/encoding dvds?
[03:55] <entil> pitti: maybe pulling more stuff into the base from universe may help?
[03:55] <N6REJ> orehon: if I say hostname it replys "adam"  which is fine, that is the machines name.  If I say hostname --fqdn it says localhost.localdomain..   which I don't get!
[03:55] <Syruss> other than dvd::rip
[03:55] <Syruss> ?
[03:55] <pitti> entil: no, it won't
[03:55] <Hoxzer^> can I boot ubuntu without mouse and keyboard?
[03:55] <pitti> entil: some parts of universe are deliberately not supported
[03:55] <Hoxzer^> like windows wont start without keyboard
[03:55] <Seveas> apollo2011, that's a weird one, have you tried reinstalling xmms and moving ~/.xmms out of the way?
[03:56] <Seveas> Hoxzer^, of course you can
[03:56] <morten0609> is there anybody who can help me? this site: www.bogguiden.dk looks horrible on Ubuntu on ALL browsers - but ONLY on Ubuntu Breezy!
[03:56] <pitti> Hoxzer^: many servers are completely headless, so if you install a server, of course you can
[03:56] <Seveas> how else would servers work :)
[03:56] <goldmund> HEI guys! HOW CAN I CHANGE Brightness and Contrast in gmplayer?!!!! NEDD HELP
[03:56] <apollo2011> Seveas: well, I did a reinstall of the xmms package in Synaptic.  I didn't move the config folder though.
[03:56] <entil> pitti: not as a full-scaled fix but if there are some packages, or whatever
[03:56] <Seveas> goldmund, a little less obnoxiousness may help...
[03:56] <Hoxzer^> pitti: ok, just going for HTPC without regural keyboard
[03:56] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone please help me with ddclient ??? I need to check the ip I currently have at home....
[03:56] <entil> oh well
[03:56] <Hoxzer^> *regular
[03:56] <Mercutio150> how can I add multiverse ?
[03:56] <entil> that kind of sucks..
[03:56] <Seveas> !tell Mercutio150 about repos
[03:57] <apollo2011> Seveas: that fixed it
[03:57] <Mercutio150> I know how to add but multi doesn't come upi anymore
[03:57] <JackTorrence> Anyone know if they have overcom the XORG issue in Breezy with HORIZSYNC & VERTREFRESH on Dell monitors? had terrible time with Hoary..
[03:57] <Mercutio150> just uni
[03:57] <ProN00b> ok, unmounting bevore unplugging works
[03:57] <pitti> entil: we are just hesitant with putting new upstream versions in to stable releases; we generally don't do it; there must be very strong reasons to make an exception
[03:57] <orehon> N6REJ im looking about it.. pls wait!
[03:57] <pitti> entil: generally, we apply security patches to the version that is currently in a stable release
[03:57] <entil> pitti: I mean, the next stable's base could contain more packages that used to be only in universe
[03:57] <kbrooks> pitti: strong reasons like what?
[03:57] <N6REJ> orehon: k, thanks... I'm totally stunned... even putting the names in /etc/hosts doesn't fix it.
[03:58] <goldmund> does anyone know how to change brightness and contrast in gmplayer? please, if you know, reply!!! Thanks!
[03:58] <entil> of course yes only security updates
[03:58] <orehon> N6REJ try # cat /etc/resolvi.conf
[03:58] <JackTorrence> Anyone know if they have overcom the XORG issue in Breezy with HORIZSYNC & VERTREFRESH on Dell monitors? had terrible time with Hoary..
[03:58] <entil> but that could be done in universe too by the universe maintainers, and then the packages, if they're good and popular, could be in the next stable's base
[03:58] <entil> just my two cents
[03:58] <Answer> Why isn't OpenOffice 2.0 recognized as an upgrade from 1.1 yet?   1.1 is so slow!
[03:58] <N6REJ> orehon: blank!
[03:58] <goldmund> does anyone know how to change brightness and contrast in gmplayer? please, if you know, reply!!! Thanks!
[03:58] <aftertaf> not stable yet Answer
[03:58] <entil> answer: maybe they're packaged to run in parallell?
[03:58] <N6REJ> orehon: that explains why the router says the hostname is "null"
[03:58] <orehon> N6REJ blank? =/ shit..
[03:58] <vbgunz> thenuke, I installed seahorse, KDE, bsdgames and thunderbird that I can recall off the top of my head... All through Synaptic too... Outside of that, I am not sure why Ubuntu feels sluggish... Could this be why some users choose to compile there own kernels?
[03:58] <Seveas> goldmund: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[03:59] <kbrooks> pitti: strong reasons like what?
[03:59] <goldmund> sorry, ok!!!
[03:59] <Answer> aftertaf:  1.1 is not stable on any of the computers here.  it takes 2+ minutes to load and then crashes.  2.0 works way better even tho it is beta
[03:59] <N6REJ> orehon: "# cat/etc/resolvi.conf"  right?
[03:59] <orehon> N6REJ but why u wanna a fqdn ?
[03:59] <pitti> kbrooks: there is no general answer to that; we never put a new ustream version into universe security so far
[03:59] <entil> "universe security"? there is such a repo separately?
[03:59] <ProN00b> whee, on mouse over mp3 playing roxxxx ! (now if they could only make it work with folders ^^)
[03:59] <N6REJ> orehon: cause the webserver should resolve to cogyfarm.com not localhost.localdomain
[04:00] <pitti> kbrooks: one reason might be that the new upstream version only contains security fixes and nothing else, and the new version does not break anything else in universe
[04:00] <goldmund> it's just that I'm a newbie and I don't know how things work onto this chat!
[04:00] <pitti> entil: yes
[04:00] <entil> same goeth for multiverse?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> goldmund: sit and watch and learn, you get a fairly good idea that way
[04:00] <orehon> N6REJ but this shit will not resolvi in ur machine... or not?
[04:00] <aftertaf> lol
[04:00] <pitti> entil: well, of course it is "hoary-security" on the mirror
[04:00] <pitti> entil: but the reelases are split into main, universe, etc. anyway
[04:00] <morten0609> is there anybody who can help me? this site: www.bogguiden.dk looks horrible on Ubuntu on ALL browsers - but ONLY on Ubuntu Breezy!
[04:00] <entil> aah, universe/multiverse security upgrades go there?!
[04:00] <entil> oh ok
[04:00] <entil> makes sense
[04:00] <pitti> entil: yes
[04:01] <pitti> entil: there have been quite a bunch of universe security updates in the past
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> morten0609, we had something like this this morning
[04:01] <pitti> entil: but the guy who did it has no time any more
[04:01] <N6REJ> orehon: I'm not sure how to answer that... if you type www.cogyfarm.com it goes to my ISP gets my IP and sends it to my router.  My router translates it to a 192 ip and sends it to my server.
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> pls file a bug
[04:01] <morten0609> yeah, that was probably me
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> nope
[04:01] <kbrooks> pitti: no time? why?
[04:01] <entil> I sort of misthought, figured you'd be able to accidentally pull in universe/multiverse software if an upgrade had been published for it :>
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> it was another one
[04:01] <kbrooks> pitti: too much in universe?
[04:01] <morten0609> I did, but they think it is not Ubuntu-specific??!
[04:01] <vbgunz> man damn... I think my download of Ubuntu Breezy daily ISO is shot... Firefox reports it stopped at 420... I hate when this happens :(
[04:02] <az[a] zel> hi I keep getting complaints about "incorrectly encoded filenames". But these files worked fine in Mandrake. Do I need to install some package to support foreign characters?
[04:02] <entil> pitti: so it's all about a need for more maintainers
[04:02] <pitti> kbrooks: real life, probably :) I don't know, I haven't heard anything from him recently
[04:02] <az[a] zel> "Incorrectly encoded string (07 - Simbelmyn.mp3) encountered."
[04:02] <kbrooks> pitti: I see
[04:02] <icewt> just wondering... is the breezy cd still in development, or is it ready already and just kept in secret until 13th?-)
[04:02] <pitti> entil: well, it's about finding somebody who wants to work on it
[04:02] <az[a] zel> the e with the two dots appears to be the problem
[04:02] <LoRe> vbgunz: use wget or curl for downloading large files
[04:02] <pitti> entil: you don't even need to be an official maintainer
[04:02] <kbrooks> pitti: i dont?
[04:02] <morten0609> wickedpuppuy, I argued with this developer guy, who kept saying that this is a Firefox bug, although the site looks crappy on ALL browsers!
[04:03] <entil> pitti: is it supporting universe if you ask very kindly, politely and with the threat of package removal that whoever uploads packages has to maintain basic security on them?-)
[04:03] <pitti> kbrooks: kbrooks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures
[04:03] <morten0609> but only on Breezy!!!
[04:03] <pitti> kbrooks: you can start without having upload rights; of course, if there is somebody who does constant work, he will get upload rights, too after some time
[04:04] <Syruss> there's all kinds of bugs in breezy
[04:04] <morten0609> wickedpuppy, how can this not be a Breezy-bug?
[04:04] <vbgunz> LoRe: wget http://domain.com/largefile.ext ?
[04:04] <pitti> entil: no, because the vast majority of universe is just a Debian snapshot, and we can't and don't want to force DDs to care for Ubuntu universe
[04:04] <pitti> entil: a few do, though
[04:04] <kbrooks> pitti: DD?
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> morten0609, no idea ... it could be
[04:04] <entil> debian developer
[04:05] <morten0609> Check this out: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17471
[04:05] <entil> a tight spot, then
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> submit on both breezy and ff
[04:05] <morten0609> it ends with him making it a priority 5...
[04:05] <damo21> Seveas: LC_ALL=C /path/to/Mathematica has the same errors
[04:05] <goldmund> can you tell me how can I send the message to the mailing list because it;s the second time I use this chat and I have no idea what's going on. Thanks
[04:05] <anthony> What does the parameter "-rf" after the command remove (rm) do?
[04:05] <Seveas> damo21, can you paste the errors on the pastebin
[04:05] <damo21> ok
[04:05] <Seveas> anthony, recursive, forced removal of files and folders
[04:06] <vbgunz> wget --help... I need to overlook that cmd, I heard it mentioned a few times, thanks for the reminder!
[04:06] <kemik> anthony:  "man rm" will tell you
[04:06] <goldmund> does someone know where a god latex tutorial concerning tables can be found?
[04:06] <kemik> vbgunz:  wget is sweet :)
[04:06] <entil> but ok, thanks all
[04:06] <anthony> Ah k, thanks guys.
[04:06] <kemik> goldmund:  search for "the not so small guide to latex"
[04:06] <entil> off ->
[04:06] <kemik> goldmund:  it has most of the stuff you wanna know about
[04:06] <N6REJ> just an FYI if anyones having kernel, libc, or locale problems you might want to either redl the daily ISO or update.. cause there are new kernel images and everything.
[04:06] <Answer> anthony: f is to force, r is for recursive...  I don't think you want to use that command if you don't know what it does
[04:07] <Seveas> kemik, "The not so short introduction to latex"
[04:07] <goldmund> kemik: thanks!
[04:07] <kemik> Seveas:  ahh. so it is ;) just have it as latex.pdf on my comp...
[04:08] <Alex_C> i installed amsn but after i had registered my logon and tried to log on, it froze, then after i closed it and tried to re-open, nothing happened
[04:08] <jasonb_> anyone here know how to declare 2 dimensional array of integers dynamically using malloc? thank you
[04:08] <vbgunz> kemik: how you doing? Good I hope! yeah, I need to look into it, this Linux in a Nutshell isn't how I thought it would be... I really want to learn some commands but with details and ideas about how things are the reason why they are, etc... You know exercises, scenarios, etc
[04:08] <jasonb_> anyone here know how to declare 2 dimensional array of integers dynamically using malloc? thank you
[04:08] <kikinovak> Hi. Just installed Breezy on all my four machines. Q: how do I prevent every single partition on my harddisk from getting auto-mounted at boot? There are a dozen distros running on this machine, and my desktop is rather cluttered with hda's :o)
[04:08] <Answer> jasonb_: msg me about your specific problem, this isn't really a C coding channel
[04:08] <kbrooks> jasonb_: #c
[04:08] <anthony> Answer: I'm following this documentation for uninstallation process of the program that I have installed, and since I'm new to Linux I just want to learn as to what each command and its parameter does.
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> jasonb_, try #c
[04:08] <jasonb_> thank you
[04:08] <damo21> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2969
[04:09] <Answer> anthony: to see the MANual for any command, type in  "man <command>"  for example, "man rm"
[04:09] <anthony> Answer: Thanks.
[04:09] <N6REJ> I was just gonna say, type man man :P
[04:09] <kikinovak> man woman
[04:09] <kikinovak> LOL
[04:09] <kbrooks> N6REJ: help on man ;)
[04:09] <N6REJ> lol
[04:10] <kemik> vbgunz:  not familiar with "Linux in a Nutshell" i've learned from doing.. like, stuff doesnt work = i try to fix... and on occassion i bug Seveas or someone else ;)
[04:10] <kemik> vbgunz:  google & the man-pages usually gives alot of info and insight
[04:10] <kikinovak> man howdoIpreventeverysinglef**ingpartitionfromgettingautomoutedatboot
[04:10] <bpf> change your /etc/fstab
[04:10] <kemik> kikinovak:  remove them from /etc/fstab ?
[04:10] <kbrooks> kemik: freebsd/openbsd man pages are better
[04:10] <Answer> anthony:  There are also website versions of hte man pages at sites like "http://man.linuxquestions.org"
[04:11] <N6REJ> vbgunz: doesn't use "nutshell" books if you want the guts'n grime details.... they are "readers digest" versions.... instead look at O'rielly associates or the "bibles"
[04:11] <Alex_C> any help? i installed amsn but after i had registered my logon and tried to log on, it froze, then after i closed it and tried to re-open, nothing happened
[04:11] <anthony> Answer: Ooo... thanks a bunch Answer! =)
[04:11] <vbgunz> I just checked "Linux in a Nutshell" for wget in the alphabetical listing of commands and it is not listed... And the alphabetical listing is more like the alphabets with no explanation :(
[04:11] <Mercutio150> ok I am having a problem with synaptic can anyone help?
[04:11] <kikinovak> kemik: must have slept...
[04:11] <kikinovak> kemik: thanks:o)
[04:11] <Answer> anthony:  sometimes you can type "info <command>"  to get the next generation help files.  Sometimes they're the same as man pages, sometimes they have more info
[04:11] <Answer> !man
[04:11] <BioLinux> hi boys
[04:11] <LoRe> vbgunz: yes, and if it breaks "wget -c URL" then it continues where it has stopped
[04:11] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[04:11] <kemik> kbrooks:  yeah ,well im stuck with ubuntu ;)
[04:11] <Answer> !info
[04:12] <Answer> !info man
[04:12] <kemik> kbrooks:  and using *bsd as a desktop... well.. no thanks
[04:12] <N6REJ> Answer tel'm about the little numbers after the man commands... like man(8)  I keep forgetting about those
[04:12] <kbrooks> kemik: search freebsd man pages
[04:12] <Mercutio150> it wont let me into the multiverse repoitories on universe and ubuntu
[04:12] <kbrooks> N6REJ: man section man
[04:12] <kbrooks> obviously...
[04:12] <Mercutio150> anyone know what I need to do?
[04:12] <kemik> Mercutio150:  enable them in /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update
[04:13] <kbrooks> N6REJ: the number in the (n) specifies the section
[04:13] <Answer> N6REJ, anthony:  The man pages have different sections, like chapters.  You can access them by typing  "man # <command>"  where # is the section.  Fore xample   "man 1 man"  and "man 7 man" are different
[04:13] <kbrooks> N6REJ: so man n foo
[04:13] <N6REJ> I keep forgetting that part LOL
[04:14] <N6REJ> that they are diff I mean
[04:14] <vbgunz> N6REJ: all I am trying to get my hands on, and with the 1000 of books possibly written about Linux is a simple book that breaks down the commands in an easy to digest format... I learned pretty quick that the cli is probably your best bet to work on other Linux distros quick and your best bet to get something Vs an unknown GUI, etc... So I am trying to find a sort of master reference book regarding commands instead of going through man pa
[04:14] <N6REJ> c'mon kx solve my resolvr problems LOL
[04:14] <sproingie> man -a <command> will show you the command in all sections
[04:14] <zoot_> hi!
[04:14] <sproingie> vbgunz: O'Reilley's Linux In A Nutshell is pretty good
[04:15] <N6REJ> vbgunz: go to o'rielly's website and do a search there.
[04:15] <Answer> all the nutshell books rule
[04:15] <Answer> java in a nutshell
[04:15] <N6REJ> sproingie: he wants teh meat too
[04:15] <sproingie> N6REJ: he will not get it in one book
[04:15] <N6REJ> he said he wanted to know "why" not just how
[04:15] <damo21> Seveas: Did you get my paste? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2969
[04:15] <N6REJ> sproingie: one of the bibles?
[04:15] <vbgunz> I have Linux in a nutshell... I went straight to the command listing *but* it is in no way like I hoped... :(
[04:15] <sproingie> vbgunz: try Unix System Administration.  it's purple, and it's got this really cheezy cartoon on the front
[04:16] <sproingie> vbgunz: it's a fairly biblical text though
[04:16] <N6REJ> sproingie: You know I thik I've got that one LOL
[04:16] <N6REJ> we need a "strong's exhaustive concordance for linux"
[04:16] <sproingie> N6REJ: i had the second edition (red) for a long time
[04:16] <sproingie> N6REJ: the purple one covers linux in much more depth
[04:16] <Answer> vbgunz:  in order of depth, I recommend  Linux Pocket Guide,  Linux In A Nutshell, Linux Bible 2005
[04:17] <vbgunz> is there a way to list all possible commands on Ubuntu? Then is it possible to sort of echo the command into a file name and the man pages to a  consolidated directory?
[04:17] <kbrooks> vbgunz: all of them?
[04:17] <N6REJ> OMG!
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> vbgunz, .... all ?
[04:17] <vbgunz> Answer, the pocket guide, would that be a bit straight to the point?
[04:17] <vbgunz> I mean the most critical commands or most common... not commands to games like backgammon, etc :P
[04:18] <sproingie> vbgunz: all the commands?  there's over a thousand of 'em installed, and most of them you'll never need.
[04:18] <N6REJ> sproingie: CLE book?
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> vbgunz, most common ? they will have man pages
[04:18] <sproingie> vbgunz: however, it's fun to browse.  ls /usr/share/man/man1
[04:18] <Answer> vbgunz: the Linux Pocket Guide covers "Essential Commandsnd some description, like the man pages.  It's only $7 anyways
[04:18] <Seveas> vbgunz, www.linuxcommand.org / www.tldp.org
[04:18] <zoot_> backup/restore Q: if i backup all debs from dpkg --get-selections, /etc, /home and pertinent /var data on CD/DVD/external disk and wish to re-install after disk failure, how would i pass the location of these deb pkgs to the installer before it rushes ahead and updates via the network?
[04:19] <Answer> Seveas:  We have several people in the office using ubuntu, is there a way to make a central repository so we can download packages once and then all install them on the intranet?
[04:19] <sproingie> vbgunz: generally, man1 has stuff that's pretty core.  2 is system calls, 3 is the C library.  4 i dunno, 5 is file formats, everything after that is hodgepodge
[04:20] <vbgunz> I'll think I'll go to B&N today and look up the pocket guide... I don't wish to overwhelm myself *but* I do wish to learn something rather than just buy a pretty book. I sort of want to open the book and say "oh, this makes sense, this is not complicated, this is not a puzzle with hints..."
[04:20] <vbgunz> sproingie: thank you! How do you know this?
[04:20] <zoot_> used in conjunction with dpkg --set-selections, apt-get dselect-upgrade..
[04:20] <damo21> can u read this? i had to register a nick?
[04:20] <Answer> vbgunz:  man man   wil show you the sections.
[04:20] <kbrooks> damo21: i can
[04:20] <N6REJ> Seveas: wouldn't answer be able to do that by making a custom repos in services.list?
[04:20] <Seveas> Answer, sure, install squid on a server and let every machine use that one as apt proxy
[04:20] <selinium> damo21: yep
[04:20] <sproingie> vbgunz: been using unix of various flavors for about 13 years
[04:21] <Answer> Seveas:  thanks!   looking up  "Squid"
[04:21] <damo21> Seveas: Just wondering, did u get my paste http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2969
[04:21] <Seveas> Answer, apt-get install squid :)
[04:21] <kbrooks> Answer: apt-get it
[04:21] <N6REJ> Answer: you'll find it next to "octopus" :P
[04:21] <kbrooks> :))
[04:21] <Answer> Seveas: I like synaptic not command line tho.  Can I use a custom repo in Synaptic instead of an apt-get proxy?
[04:21] <Seveas> damo21, hmm, keysim errors :|
[04:22] <sproingie> vbgunz: as for book recommendations, get either or both of these two books listed here: http://www.admin.com/
[04:22] <damo21> Seveas: yeah i have no idea what that means
[04:22] <Seveas> Answer, apt-get squid is what you do to create a proxy *server*
[04:22] <Seveas> in synaptic you can then set that one as proxy
[04:22] <Answer> sweet
[04:22] <Answer> we have like 17 people downloading 50+ package updates...
[04:23] <Seveas> Answer, settings -> preferences -> tab network
[04:23] <sproingie> vbgunz: you can probably find used copies of it pretty easy too, but i'd stay away from earlier editions, they're way out of date
[04:23] <damo21> Seveas: Maybe better to install the win32 version run through wine?
[04:23] <damo21> :|
[04:23] <Seveas> damo21, I don't think it'll improve things but you can try
[04:23] <vbgunz> sproingie: I really don't expect to become a wizard overnight, not even a year *but* I do just wish to get to grips as I am trying so hard to shake Windows that I sort of start to get depressed because I just can't get to work quick enough with Linux... I am in no rush *but* I have no problem reading a good book, just I can't find the right text book... I don't really want to know the history at the moment, I just want to know how I can b
[04:24] <sproingie> vbgunz: you can become pretty close to a wizard in a year
[04:24] <vbgunz> sproingie: thanks, will look now
[04:24] <Answer> Seveas: Squid is in Synaptic
[04:24] <kemik> vbgunz:  i dont think reading a book is the key to learning linux
[04:24] <Seveas> Answer, yes, but you should install that on only one machine
[04:24] <kemik> vbgunz:  rather "trial and error"
[04:24] <sproingie> vbgunz: if you can find it, there's a book called Unix Power Tools.  i think it's out of print
[04:24] <Seveas> and let all other machines use that one as proxy
[04:25] <selinium> Hi guys, before I get flamed about ubuntuguide, I know! THat is why I am asking here! :)   I have seen their auto dyndns updater, it tries to create a crontab in /root. Is this dangerous? wiki does not have anything I can find ipcheck...  :)
[04:25] <Answer> Seveas: yes i do have some basic understanding of hte concept I am trying to implement heh
[04:25] <vbgunz> kemik: I believe you, I became really good with Windows because I called them everyday for like a year... I was almost on a first name basis... I wish there was a Linux group around my way, that would be nice
[04:25] <selinium> Hi Seveas
[04:25] <N6REJ> Seveas: can I strain your brain a bit?
[04:25] <selinium> :)
[04:25] <kemik> vbgunz:  and in linux (as with most things) there are a million different solutions to one problem
[04:25] <damo21> How do u mount an iso as a loop device?
[04:25] <sproingie> vbgunz: if it is, ORA might have it for free on their site.  it's also a pretty good book, it tells you a lot of unix tricks like how to use the 'find' command well, and weird commands like xargs
[04:25] <Seveas> N6REJ, perhaps, give it a try :)
[04:25] <Seveas> hi selinium
[04:25] <hircus> damo21: mount -o loop ISOfile mountpoint
[04:25] <damo21> sweet
[04:25] <Answer> vbgunz:  Just search for some quick linux tutorials, and then type in the commands they show and see what they do
[04:26] <sproingie> vbgunz: i also suggest learning perl.  where a lot of older books have you piping into complex awk scripts, most admins these days use perl instead
[04:26] <vbgunz> sproingie: give me a sec, thanks Answer, one sec, I need to backtrack and harvest this info and links
[04:26] <hircus> damo21: now if only it could be done as a normal user, we could use OS X-style ISOs-as-distribution-images
[04:26] <kbrooks> !mountiso
[04:26] <ubotu> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[04:27] <Mercutio150> ok I have added the multivers repos but it still wont let me DL MPlayer, anyone help?
[04:27] <kbrooks> hircus: nice idea. :)
[04:27] <kemik> Mercutio150:  updated?
[04:27] <hircus> kbrooks: neat - what other commands does it understand?
[04:27] <Seveas> Mercutio150, the package is not called mplayer, but mplayer-586
[04:27] <kemik> Mercutio150:  got the right pacakgename?
[04:28] <VoX> how do i install flash on amd64?
[04:28] <Mercutio150> yep updated and MPlaer is the onlyone that it still wont let me dl
[04:28] <kbrooks> hircus: ?
[04:28] <N6REJ> Seveas: ok, here's the scenario... my registrar is providing dns for me at no charge :D  I'm on a dsl connection.  I have a wireless router here with 2 windows xp clients, 1 ubuntu client, and 1 ubuntu server.  The server IS serving webpages to the FQDN www.cogyfarm.com as it should... BUT!!....when I say 'hostname' it replys "ADAM", thats good.... when I say 'hostname --fqdn' it says...
[04:28] <N6REJ> ..."localhost.localdomain"  I don't get it.  The router says the hostname is "null"... something is foobar'd. ...all the machines here are nat'd.
[04:28] <hircus> kbrooks: the ubuntu bot
[04:28] <Mercutio150> I'm looking under add aplications
[04:28] <hircus> VoX: you're probably out of luck
[04:28] <vbgunz> sproingie: Perl? Would you agree the majority of the language on Linux is Perl based or Perl type?
[04:28] <kbrooks> !tell hircus about factoids
[04:28] <hircus> VoX: install a 32-bit chroot, install 32-bit firefox on it
[04:28] <vbgunz> Perl like* sorry
[04:28] <Seveas> N6REJ, that's not straining my brain :)
[04:28] <Seveas> N6REJ, put your /etc/hosts on the pastebin
[04:29] <sproingie> vbgunz: no, but a good enough chunk of it is that you'll need to learn it to be effective
[04:29] <hircus> kbrooks: doesn't seem to do anything, that command
[04:29] <hircus> !tell me about factoids
[04:29] <kbrooks> hircus: do you get messaged?
[04:29] <vbgunz> ok, first things first, I just want to use the system to do what I need as a user... I will think about developing, tweaking later bet ;)
[04:29] <hircus> kbrooks: oh wait, yes
[04:29] <sproingie> i dont think the bot knows about 'me'
[04:30] <vbgunz> sproingie: thank you for those links!
[04:30] <hircus> sproingie: it does, surprisingly
[04:30] <N6REJ> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2970
[04:30] <hircus> sproingie: it even knows I've been told the same thing, and replied with 'it has been said that... '
[04:30] <sproingie> hircus: that's a nice change.  infobots didn't used to
[04:30] <sproingie> hircus: the "it is said" bit is just random
[04:30] <hircus> sproingie: oh. heh, the Eliza effect
[04:31] <kbrooks> !tell me about factoids
[04:31] <kbrooks> Just told me ...
[04:31] <Seveas> N6REJ, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2971 do you get the hint?
[04:31] <sproingie> you can also just chat with the bot, only reason to send to the channel is if you want others to know you asked
[04:31] <selinium> Is there any issues with creating a crontab in /root ?
[04:31] <hircus> sproingie: how do I add commands though?
[04:32] <hircus> sproingie: add factoids, I mean
[04:32] <kbrooks> hircus: you can add new commands, /msg ubotu help tell
[04:32] <hircus> ah
[04:32] <N6REJ> Seveas: mmmmmmm. maybe
[04:32] <ProN00b> i need to analyze a file, anyone knows any hexeditor i can get with apt-get ?
[04:32] <Seveas> hircus, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:32] <kbrooks> hircus: erm, thats for sending commands
[04:33] <hircus> ProN00b: apt-get search hex
[04:33] <hircus> Seveas: thanks
[04:33] <N6REJ> Seveas: I may even have some things in there I don't need.
[04:33] <ProN00b> apt-cache, hircus -_-
[04:33] <Rev-Marc> is there anyway to setup chatzilla to automatically do the identify message?
[04:33] <hircus> ProN00b: oops. you can tell when I'm not on my Ubuntu machine :)
[04:34] <hircus> ProN00b: I like ghex myself
[04:35] <vbgunz> who linked me to linuxcommand?
[04:35] <ProN00b> k tnx
[04:35] <vbgunz> this is what I am talking about
[04:35] <vbgunz> http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[04:35] <marlijs> I have a problem with samba share, it used to mount on bootup, but now it says connection refused
[04:35] <sproingie> Rev-Marc: edit->preferences->freenode->lists->auto perform
[04:35] <vbgunz> this dude got me in a deathgrip ;)
[04:35] <sproingie> Rev-Marc: just add the /msg in there
[04:35] <N6REJ> Seveas: YEP, I GOT IT!
[04:35] <sproingie> Rev-Marc: without the leading / ... chatzilla is strange that way
[04:35] <Seveas> vbgunz, sorry :)
[04:35] <N6REJ> Seveas: ty!
[04:36] <Rev-Marc> thank you sproingie
[04:36] <Seveas> N6REJ, yw
[04:36] <N6REJ> had to orbit around for a bit
[04:36] <vbgunz> I love his writing so much, I need to take a break, a breath and be happy, thanks for the link, it was major helpful, it is beautiful!
[04:36] <vbgunz> :)
[04:36] <N6REJ> is there a book on ubuntu?
[04:37] <N6REJ> its quite a bit diff from the linux I'm used to of 4 years ago.
[04:37] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:38] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: is there a copy of the in the distro that can be printed?
[04:38] <occy> 3 days!
[04:38] <sproingie> vbgunz: i'm not sure that disparaging GUIs is ever a good way for a CLI tutorial to start.  especially when it's such a strawman case
[04:39] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: nothat I know of
[04:39] <N6REJ> k
[04:40] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: furthermore... it's ever-changing
[04:40] <sproingie> vbgunz: he then goes on to advocate his silly focus model.  all in all, i'm for giving this guy a miss
[04:40] <Rev-Marc> sproingie - thank you that worked great :)
[04:40] <N6REJ> true
[04:40] <vbgunz> sproingie: I am use to the GUI and found all equivalents to most CLI commands... *but* what I really got excited about was how rm tar and some others were easy and short and yet so powerful...
[04:40] <pl_ice> anyone used boewulf?
[04:40] <sproingie> vbgunz: indeed.  commands are ok, but it's pipelines where it really shines
[04:41] <selinium> occy: if you have waited this long, I would wait a week so they can iron out some of the kinks!
[04:41] <vbgunz> I heard so much about the cli, I mean how it is universal vs doing it thruogh a possibility of several dozen GUIs, etc... Thats pretty standard for me and I like the idea
[04:41] <occy> selinium, heh, I think that's what they've been doing.
[04:41] <sproingie> vbgunz: i sometimes would work on 12-CPU machines, and since each piece of a pipeline runs in its own process, i would typically use ALL the CPU's doing my admin tasks.  zoom :)
[04:41] <selinium> Seveas: is there any security issues with creating a crontab in /root ?
[04:42] <sproingie> vbgunz: at sun, they wrote a fair number of GUI admin apps in shell too, namely dtksh
[04:42] <selinium> occy: You will be suprised how many more they will find when everyone starts to use it! :)
[04:42] <vbgunz> sproingie: I still have to learn that ;)
[04:42] <vbgunz> pipelines and the such
[04:42] <occy> selinium, nod
[04:43] <sproingie> vbgunz: not really worth learning, they replaced half of 'em with tcl, then later replaced all of 'em with java.  tcl i could see.  as for java ... spit
[04:43] <kemik> sproingie:  does pipelines really get more effective on multi-cpu architectures?
[04:43] <occy> selinium, but... you can just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to get the fixes :)
[04:43] <vbgunz> sproingie: one sec,
[04:43] <sproingie> kemik: not really, disk is usually your main bottleneck.  in my case it did since all my processes were mostly RAM-resident
[04:44] <selinium> vbgunz: The best thing about the terminal for me is being able to run commands on remote machines, I have installed a apache server on a machine 20 miles away without leaving my desk. fantastic
[04:44] <selinium> occy: The repos are probably going to be a bit slow on the 13th :)
[04:44] <sproingie> installing windows packages remotely is pretty easy if they're packaged right
[04:45] <sproingie> both gui and cli
[04:45] <Johnzie> how to make mozilla default browser?
[04:45] <sproingie> 'course on linux they don't even have to be packaged right :)
[04:46] <sproingie> windows technically speaking has a superior package format.  shame they have no real package manager to speak of
[04:46] <vbgunz> selinium: I hope to one day get that nice!
[04:47] <kemik> sproingie:  windows has a packageformat ?
[04:47] <sproingie> kemik: .msi
[04:47] <N6REJ> v 3.1 now
[04:48] <kemik> google is my friend
[04:48] <kemik> :)
[04:48] <sproingie> kemik: you can open a .msi file with msdac libraries and query it with sql.  pretty nifty that way
[04:48] <N6REJ> <----- way over his head
[04:48] <Johnzie> is there any way I can access files on my windows partitions from Ubuntu?
[04:48] <sproingie> kemik: you can also override any piece of the installer data with .mst (transform) files, without touching the package
[04:48] <pl_ice> hey u guys know a speaking synthesator that will read text? no gui .. for script
[04:49] <N6REJ> sam?
[04:49] <kemik> !tell Johnzie about ntfs
[04:49] <N6REJ> is "sam" available for *nix?
[04:49] <N6REJ> that would do it.
[04:49] <tritium> pl_ice: festival
[04:50] <pl_ice> ok
[04:50] <Johnzie> uhhh looks like a cgi file hehe... how do I run it?
[04:50] <Answer> pl_ice:  emacs has emacsspeak, which may do what you want.  it can use about 12 different text to speech
[04:50] <mahangu> i need a portscanner for ubuntu
[04:51] <Johnzie> nm there's instructions
[04:51] <kemik> Johnzie:  read the comments
[04:51] <mahangu> all i get from apt-cache search is portscan detection daemons
[04:51] <Johnzie> thanks :-)
[04:51] <sproingie> N6REJ: sam's the name of an older text-to-speech engine, not really a product.  it's very primitive, but quite small so windows comes with it.
[04:51] <pl_ice> Answer it's for a small script, not for ubuntu thought
[04:52] <N6REJ> sproingie: yeah it was originally developed for the vic-20
[04:52] <N6REJ> but now I'm showing my age LOL
[04:52] <sproingie> N6REJ: stripped down on the vic i think.  i believe it was a z80 thing
[04:52] <sproingie> N6REJ: BTW you could probably try surfing the various "linux for the blind" user sites.  they probably have recommendations
[04:53] <N6REJ> my first pc was a "SINCLAIR" zx-80 2k  not the timex version... we had to order it for 79 pounds sterling and assemble it.
[04:53] <N6REJ> I bet www3c.org would too.
[04:54] <sproingie> N6REJ: timex bought sinclair and shipped basically the same machine
[04:54] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[04:54] <da_bon_bon> does default ubuntu install have two versions of gcc ?
[04:54] <da_bon_bon> does default ubuntu install have two versions of gcc ?
[04:55] <da_bon_bon> eek!
[04:55] <N6REJ> sproingie: almost, clive sinclair sold timex exclusive US marketing rights to the machine.  They still produced their own equiptment & designs overseas, but timex botched it sooooo badly, that clive never allowed them to have the better machines like the spectrum
[04:55] <da_bon_bon> sorry for double post
[04:55] <N6REJ> da_bon_bon: yes!
[04:55] <da_bon_bon> why the redundancy ?
[04:55] <pl_ice> bed time
[04:55] <N6REJ> *shrug*
[04:55] <N6REJ> compatiblity?
[04:55] <sproingie> N6REJ: that explains things
[04:55] <da_bon_bon> hehe
[04:55] <hircus> da_bon_bon: probably the same reason Fedora has two (though they don't install 3.x by default)
[04:56] <da_bon_bon> hircus: the reason being ?
[04:56] <da_bon_bon> and how do i remove the 3.X version ?
[04:56] <hircus> da_bon_bon: installing 3rd party binaries
[04:56] <mahangu> portscanner anybody?
[04:56] <da_bon_bon> oh ok, hircus
[04:56] <da_bon_bon> that makes sense
[04:56] <sproingie> da_bon_bon: you don't want to until all traces of 3.x are gone from any c++ libs you have
[04:56] <hircus> da_bon_bon: C++ ABI changes between 3.x and 4.x especially
[04:56] <da_bon_bon> ok
[04:56] <steigweis> why cant i burn 8X with gnomebaker? could it have something to do with the dvd-r discs?  (with windows/nero it works 8x)
[04:57] <N6REJ> the spectrum was 128k with 360k MINI tape drive with zero error rate for $139 lbs, came with dual tape drives and regular kbd & full color.. .was amazing.
[04:57] <sproingie> hell, at work i still have to keep 2.9x around
[04:57] <hircus> N6REJ: funny, I just read a mention of it in Gibson's Pattern Recognition yesterday
[04:58] <N6REJ> hircus: thats how I learned algebra and programming.... everything then was in machine code or a tiny basic set.
[04:58] <g14> I installed ubuntu on the free partition on my laptop yesterday. Windows booted perfectly this morning and now nothing boots.
[04:58] <N6REJ> when I got to college I almost failed algebra cause nobody told me all those "let x= 5" was algebra!
[04:58] <g14> I get a very quick grub loading stage 1.5 error and then the computer reboots
[04:59] <sproingie> N6REJ: sounds like the commodore 128 still beat on specs.  'course it never had a lasting chance either, being commodore.  oh well, topic's drifting around here
[04:59] <hircus> N6REJ: so you're probably faster at 2's complement than decimal arithmetic?
[04:59] <g14> How can I reinstall grub?
[04:59] <g14> I am doing this all from the hoary live cd
[04:59] <N6REJ> used to be.. back on topic :P
[04:59] <da_bon_bon> does the hibernate of ubuntu unmount all disks before hibernating ?
[04:59] <Answer> g14: HAve you mounted the harddrive?  check for  grub menu.lst
[04:59] <goh_> I've got a printer problem. Ican print a test page but none of my applications can print any documents
[05:00] <g14> Answer: yes I mounted my /boot partition. grub/menu.lst is perfect
[05:00] <g14> How can I reinstall grub again? I am at a grub shell right now
[05:00] <Answer> g14:  if you run /sbin/grub  it will probe and try to fix
[05:01] <g14> Could a non-bot please help me
[05:02] <Answer> g14: edit menu.lst and uncomment  #hiddenmenu  and change the timeout to 30
[05:03] <N6REJ> !tell me about ifconfig
[05:05] <N6REJ> sproingie: I forgot how to add a eth0:0
[05:05] <Answer> N6REJ: ifconfig eth0 up
[05:05] <N6REJ> Answer: nope, I need to create the virtual port first.
[05:05] <N6REJ> ifconfig eth0:0 something.....
[05:06] <N6REJ> I just forgot the rest.
[05:06] <butcherbird> g14, you are at grub> right now?
[05:06] <g14> butcherbird: yes
[05:06] <steigweis> to the guys with breezy: do you think, that gnome 2.12 is faster than the old one? especially firefox is very slow responding on hoary
[05:06] <da_bon_bon> lol
[05:06] <da_bon_bon> there is a bug in the ubuntu faqguide
[05:06] <da_bon_bon> in upgrading ubuntu
[05:06] <da_bon_bon> both the sections ar same
[05:06] <da_bon_bon> :P
[05:07] <g14> steigweis: Yes it is faster, if I could just fix grub :-/
[05:07] <alexboy> steigweis, I dont think there's that much difference tbh.  Though I am disappointed I'm going to have to spend some time tuning a/v stuff to get things to play smoothly and without using all my cpu...
[05:07] <butcherbird> g14, what partition is your menu.lst on? hda1?
[05:07] <da_bon_bon> eek! ubuntu faqguide == ubuntuguide.com :P
[05:07] <da_bon_bon> !ubuntuguide
[05:07] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:08] <g14> butcherbird: Nope, hda5. hda1 is my windows partiton which I need to access now (Im at work)
[05:08] <steigweis> g14: what is with grub and faster in what way?
[05:08] <Johnzie> when setting up a Samba network printer it asks me for a username and passwor.... what do I put in?d
[05:08] <butcherbird> g14, ok type "root (hd0,4)"
[05:08] <steigweis> alexboy: did you have had hoary before
[05:08] <da_bon_bon> after hoary to breezy, when i click on about ubuntu, it displays error "The Uniform Resource Identifier ghelp:about-ubuntu is invalid or does not point to an actual file." -- anyone else face the same ?
[05:08] <butcherbird> g14, you are installing to mbr right?
[05:09] <alexboy> yes, been using it for about 5/6 months
[05:09] <steigweis> Johnzie: you have to put the sambapsswd in, probably
[05:09] <alexboy> steigweis, didn't do a dist-upgrade though, opted for a clean install. was eager to try out easyubuntu , which has largely pleased me, except for the aforementioned playback issues...
[05:09] <g14> butcherbird: yes, just a second and I will do that
[05:09] <Johnzie> It's a windowsXP computer I'm connecting to with no passwords
[05:09] <g14> butcherbird: Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 was the output
[05:10] <thompa> finally got on irc
[05:10] <butcherbird> g14, now type "setup (hd0)"
[05:10] <steigweis> alexboy: what is the problem of a distupgrade?
[05:10] <steigweis> isnt that clean in a way?
[05:10] <N6REJ> Seveas: I want to add an interface that is 192.168.2.128 as eth0:0  it is NOT in my dhcp pool.  what would be the best way to do that?
[05:10] <g14> butcherbird: It says it succeeded, is that all that I needed to do to reinstall it?
[05:10] <Answer> N6REJ: ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.128
[05:11] <alexboy> not when you've been fucking around with it alot. and as I said, I was eager to see how a clean install followed by easyubuntu treatment would look
[05:11] <Answer> !language
[05:11] <ubotu> Answer: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:11] <butcherbird> g14, yes as long as menu.lst is the way you want it
[05:11] <thompa> can someone help anser a question about software updater?
[05:11] <g14> Thanks so much. I've used linux for years, but I have never had to fix grub. I have more lilo experience.
[05:11] <Answer> thompa:  Have you asked a question yet?
[05:12] <butcherbird> g14, np good luck
[05:12] <thompa> well i have just done 2 installs and my sources are different
[05:12] <Johnzie> Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[05:12] <thompa> is that possible?
[05:13] <chrissturm> i have moved my root partition to a different harddisk, and fixed grub, but now every time i install a new kernel i get the wrong info written into menu.lst
[05:13] <thompa> the pc lists only cd as source
[05:13] <g14> butcherbird: I will be back with more questions if it doesn't work...
[05:13] <Answer> thompa:  Please try to condense your question into one statement.  It is very hard to scroll and piece together what you are asking.
[05:13] <butcherbird> g14, heh
[05:13] <thompa> the notebook has like 5 different sources
[05:13] <da_bon_bon> how do i stop my eth0 interface by being brought up on bootup ?
[05:13] <Answer> thompa:  So you are talking about Repositories, in Synaptic?  Just add the ones that are missing.
[05:13] <N6REJ> Answer: grrrrrrrrr .... ifconfig add 192.168.2.128 eth0:0 unknown interface
[05:13] <Johnzie> is there a default username and password for WinXP Samba networking?
[05:14] <N6REJ> I don't want to CHANGE eth0 I was to add a virtual
[05:14] <thompa> ok, but why would one have only the cd repos. and the other maybe 5-6 repos, same cd install same time. one is a notebook only.
[05:14] <Answer> N6REJ:  the man page clearly states the usage is    ifconfig <interface>    add refers to the address
[05:15] <Answer> N6REJ:  ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.128
[05:16] <alexboy> anyway, I'm looking for a music player that might not exist.  I need something with what I can only describe as a subtractive and heirarchical playlist editor.  Imagine two windows.  The left hand side is a playlist browser allowing you to view already created playlist, the right hand side displays your new(or 'open) playlist.  Whatever appears in the 'open' playlist, I don't want to see it in the left hand side. And I would also like t
[05:16] <alexboy> he playlists to be heirarchical, allowing playlist subsets.  Does this exist?
[05:16] <redeeman> hello
[05:16] <Answer> alexboy:  why don't you just open two music players and copy between the playlists?
[05:16] <N6REJ> ok, and now I need to add it to the routing table right?
[05:17] <thompa> Answer: does my question make sense?
[05:17] <Answer> N6REJ: If you say so...  I dunno what you are trying to do
[05:17] <redeeman> i am following a howto saying i should apt-get install sasl2-bin, so that i can get saslauthd, but it does not appaer to be in any of the repositories (i uncommented them all in sources.list)
[05:17] <alexboy> Answer, that doesn't satisfy either of my requirements.
[05:17] <redeeman> anyone that might be able to help me?
[05:17] <Ng> alexboy: that basically doesn't exist. The best playlisting audio player is zinf, but it's playback sucks. the rest have bog-standard awful playlists mostly :/
[05:17] <Ng> -'
[05:17] <Hoxzer> somebody here has installed UT orginal?
[05:17] <N6REJ> Answer: just add an additional IP to the interface.
[05:17] <Answer> thompa: the question does make sense, but I don't think anybody can tell you why one of them has some extra repositories enabled.  You can disable the extras, or you can add them to the other ones
[05:18] <N6REJ> one that is not dhcp
[05:18] <alexboy> Ng, cheers, I'll check out zinf to see if it's any good
[05:18] <Answer> N6REJ:  You just did it with   ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.128
[05:18] <chrissturm> alexboy, check out quod-libet
[05:18] <sproingie> wow, i have a tin ear, but zinf sounded bad even to me
[05:18] <gnomefreak> thompa: did you install it the same way on both pcs as in default or server?
[05:18] <sproingie> distortion out the wazoo
[05:18] <HilBilly> Heya warlord^
[05:18] <alexboy> chrissturm, does it do either of those things?
[05:18] <warlord^> hiya HilBilly
[05:18] <Strike4ce> ok I have ubuntu unstalled on my laptop how can I setup my wireless internet?
[05:18] <thompa> gnomefreak: exactly maybe 20 min. apart
[05:18] <N6REJ> ok, works.. ty
[05:18] <Answer> Strike4ce: man iwconfig
[05:19] <Answer> N6REJ: grr tolja so
[05:19] <Strike4ce> where do I start
[05:19] <N6REJ> Answer: :P been to long
[05:19] <thompa> gnomefreak: does the install depend on internet? also one was a notebook
[05:19] <Answer> thompa:  it will download more packages and updates if connected to the internet
[05:19] <gnomefreak> thompa: i dont know than i installed ubuntu on 2 pcs and both are same
[05:19] <warlord^> i have tryed to install ubuntu from the dvd version it boot ok but insted of starting the installation all i get is a promt and from there i can't do anything all i can is get into the help file but that is in german does anyone have any idea what to do
[05:20] <Answer> Strike4ce:  typing "ifconfig"  should show you the network interfaces.  eth1 should be wireless.  iwconfig will allow you to set the essid and key and etc
[05:20] <N6REJ> Answer: its not in the /etc/network/interfaces file though, so it won't be active on reboot.
[05:20] <N6REJ> Answer: will it?
[05:20] <thompa> Answer: it wont if after install the source is cd.
[05:20] <Answer> N6REJ:  add a line in /etc/network/interfaces that says simply  "auto eth0:0"
[05:21] <N6REJ> Answer: k ty
[05:21] <Strike4ce> type ifconfig where?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> thompa: im sorry ive never seen a default install of ubuntu use cd repos
[05:21] <kamelion> hiya, question, can I block some packets from updating? linke openoffice and the kernel, those are really big and I don't need them updated...
[05:22] <thompa> gnomefreak: thanks. they do. but it does not matter, i just get curious with inconsitencies.
[05:23] <Answer> kamelion: are you using Synaptic?  just deselect them.
[05:23] <Strike4ce> answer type IFCONFIG where?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> thompa: im thinking and no i havent tried this yet but take the repos from one pc and emailthem to an email address and open it with other pc and paste them in there getting rid of the cd repos
[05:23] <Strike4ce> I have my network tools open
[05:23] <Strike4ce> its on loopback interface
[05:23] <thompa> gnomefreak: easier is just delete them form interface in system
[05:23] <vbgunz> really curious *but* why is dictionary soooo slow? I mean I type a word in and wait 5 seconds, it then pops up... whats up with that? Anyone else experiencing this?
[05:23] <Answer> Strike4ce: go to System-> Administration -> Networking
[05:24] <kamelion> Answer, no, I'm talking about the ubuntu update applet... It keeps popping up with those updates
[05:24] <N6REJ> Answer: perfect!  Now my intranet webpages are only on the lan and the public webpages are on the dhcp interface... TYVM  Have a cup of java on me!  {_}?
[05:24] <Answer> N6REJ: it worked on reboot too?
[05:24] <Answer> kamelion: I disabled that ubuntu update thing so I dunno
[05:24] <N6REJ> Answer: hehehe better check that.
[05:24] <gnomefreak> thompa:either way is fine what i meant was just put the repos that u want in the other pc
[05:25] <Answer> vbgunz:  If you installed multiple languages it could slow down the dictionnary response time
[05:25] <kamelion> Answer, ok, thank you anyway. I'll just update them.
[05:25] <thompa> gnomefreak: oh right! . are you using kubuntu-desktop?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> nope i have gnome up right now
[05:25] <Answer> "gnomefreak" is probably not using kde heh
[05:26] <N6REJ> lol
[05:26] <Strike4ce> answer ok I have tkip set up is that hexadecimal or just plain ascii?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> i have kubuntu installed also
[05:26] <thompa> gnomefreak: so do I. It seems Kubuntu is crippled some. im going there to find out whats up. see ya!
[05:26] <vbgunz> Answer, thank you!
[05:26] <Answer> Strike4ce: It should convert ascii automatically, but if that doesn't work then the answer is hex :)
[05:27] <Strike4ce> answer so I should put my key in?
[05:27] <vbgunz> What is the Linux ghost equivalent? Would logging in with the Ubuntu Live CD and tarring up the entire drive be wise?
[05:27] <Answer> Strike4ce:  If it isn't currently working then what is the risk?
[05:28] <N6REJ> Answer: NOPE! lost it in the reboot
[05:28] <gnomefreak> answer: lol i wouldnt have the k desktop installed but for programming i cant stand anjuta
[05:28] <Strike4ce> answer now It needs an IP address can I get that from my home pc?
[05:28] <Answer> N6REJ: darn.  I am not so good on the automatic startup stuff...
[05:29] <Answer> gnomefreak: so what do you use?  kdevelop?   emacs is the bestest
[05:29] <gnomefreak> kdevelop
[05:29] <N6REJ> Answer: let me try what the man page says
[05:29] <Answer> Strike4ce: Aren't you using dhcp?
[05:29] <Strike4ce> yes
[05:29] <Answer> Strike4ce: if you're using dhcp you don't have to specifiy an ip
[05:30] <gnomefreak> ive never tried emacs can i still use gcc commands to compile in emacs?
[05:30] <Strike4ce> ok well I used dhcp and its not working?
[05:30] <joseole> hi
[05:30] <Answer> gnomefreak:  emacs is totally integrated iwth everything... if you set it up right :)
[05:30] <Strike4ce> i guess I could reset my wireless router and then secure it later?
[05:31] <joseole> does someone can help me out with a usb wireless, i followed the directions of wiki page, but modprobe doesnt allow me to insert the module
[05:31] <gnomefreak> answer: ok thank you i will try it out
[05:31] <Strike4ce> on host settings I have what was put in o boot what do I need for domain?
[05:32] <Answer> N6REJ: I think it is something in the /etc/network/interfaces... but I don't have a good example.  maybe    iface eth0 inet 192.168.2.128  or something
[05:32] <vbgunz> Would booting into a my system with the Live CD and a portable hard drive to tar up the entire hard drive be a wise idea in regards to trying to accomplish what Ghost does for Windows?
[05:32] <N6REJ> Answer: I think I figured it out... couldn't be easier just add it straight out the man page into the /etc/network/interfaces
[05:32] <N6REJ> Answer: yep.. man interfaces
[05:33] <alexboy> vbgunz, yes, that would work fine.  although not the most elegant solution it would work regardless of filesystem
[05:33] <Answer> vbgunz: google  "ghost for linux"
[05:33] <joseole> someone knows how to use ndiswrapper ?
[05:34] <alexboy> vbgunz, if you are just wanting to backup a *nix filesystem you'd be better off learning about tar and rsync.
[05:34] <Answer> !ndiswrapper
[05:34] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:34] <Answer> !tell joseole about ndiswrapper
[05:34] <vbgunz> Answer: I will... Another thing, I am about to do a reinstall... Is there a file system which supports encryption out of the box?
[05:35] <Answer> vbgunz:  reiserfs supports encryption.  other filesystems probably do too
[05:35] <vbgunz> alexboy: Basically backing up the entire home directory is safe and small correct?
[05:35] <alexboy> though I would be interested to hear if ubuntu has a recommeneded gui frontend for such backups?
[05:35] <vbgunz> Answer: thank you!
[05:36] <Answer> vbgunz:  tar'ing will just stick the files together,  use it with gzip compression to make it smaller.  tar -cvzf
[05:36] <alexboy> vbgunz, most certainly. though if you want to be extra safe I would have the user that you're backing up logged out (incase any of your programs are writing to files, or they are crazy and keep temp files in your home dir)
[05:37] <vbgunz> tar -cvzf /homebackup ~/home/vbgunz/* correct?
[05:37] <alexboy> vbgunz, using the loopback device all filesystems can support encryption, even swap!
[05:37] <Answer> vbgunz:  tar -cvzf <tarfilename> <list of files>
[05:37] <vbgunz> Answer: thats what I wrote but without the extension
[05:37] <alexboy> Answer, don't you want a p in there?
[05:38] <Answer> vbgunz:  Synaptic shows "backuppc" package for doing this.
[05:38] <vbgunz> tar -cvzf /homebackup.tar ~/home/vbgunz/*
[05:38] <warlord^> Question : i have tryed to install ubuntu from the dvd version it boot ok but insted of starting the installation all i get is a promt and from there i can't do anything all i can is get into the help file but that is in german does anyone have any idea what to do
[05:38] <Answer> warlord^: reinstall.  don't chose german
[05:38] <vbgunz> warlord^: dont choose server either
[05:38] <JustinHH> hello
[05:39] <vbgunz> alexboy, how do i enable this loopback device? is it that simple?
[05:39] <N6REJ> Answer: nope, doesn't persist :(
[05:39] <alexboy> vbgunz, no, this is getting into quite technical stuff...
[05:39] <warlord^> Answer: it don't install anything its just give me the promt and its the english version i hae
[05:39] <vbgunz> Answer, looking for backuppc
[05:39] <alexboy> vbgunz, what do you want to achieve?
[05:39] <vbgunz> alexboy: I would like a FS with encryption out of the box, not possible yet?
[05:39] <Strike4ce> ok answer that is not working
[05:40] <Answer> warlord^  when you boot from the install cd and get an initial prompt, press ENTER to install with default options
[05:40] <redeeman> vbgunz: just use dm-crypt
[05:40] <Syruss> vbgunz, using encryption on an entire FS is probably just a waste of resources
[05:40] <JustinHH> what's the command with witch you are able to see the file system used by the partitions and their name? i no it includes fstab.....
[05:40] <warlord^> just did that nothing happen
[05:40] <Syruss> use gpg to encrypt the files you want secret
[05:40] <vbgunz> I am going to backup my work, reinstall Ubuntu and only allow good update URLs (official supported)
[05:40] <Strike4ce> is there anyone here besides answer that can help me because he is busy?
[05:40] <Answer> Strike4ce: You will have to investigate the command line commands ifconfig and iwconfig
[05:40] <tuxuntu> Hello!
[05:41] <alexboy> vbgunz, as Syruss says. look into gpg or something. decrypt your files when you're working on them and re-encrypt them when you're done
[05:41] <Strike4ce> im trying it with hexadecimal
[05:41] <tuxuntu> I'm using a swiss-german keyboard layout. But I cannot enter any special characters like the pipe, the at sign.. what is wrong and how can I fix it?
[05:41] <Strike4ce> says activating interface
[05:41] <vbgunz> Syruss, I just want on the fly encryption as now I have over 500 accounts which will most likely be insecured on Linux whereas they were protected on Linux... I would just like it be on-the-fly
[05:41] <warlord^> Answer: just did that nothing happen
[05:41] <tuxuntu> I used Gentoo before, where this worked out of the box
[05:41] <Strike4ce> "eth1"
[05:41] <alexboy> i think I remember seeing some nice packages that extend nautilus to incorporate encryption/decryption of files/directories
[05:41] <Syruss> well that's fair enough
[05:41] <vbgunz> I meant Windows, sorry :P
[05:42] <ProN00b> omg my nessusd doesn't scan anything but localhost anymore !
[05:42] <vbgunz> redeeman: dm-crypt?
[05:42] <alexboy> vbgunz, protected against what? are these laptop users?
[05:42] <Strike4ce> am i headed in the right direction answer? When I tried it with hexadecimal it started activating?
[05:42] <vbgunz> ghetto user
[05:42] <vbgunz> :P
[05:42] <redeeman> vbgunz: dmcrypt is a devicemapper target which encrypts
[05:43] <alexboy> using encyption in a client/server environment is largely just smoke and mirrors...
[05:43] <SogniX> stupid question again, how do I install a .deb?
[05:43] <redeeman> vbgunz: takes one block device in, and gives you a new block device which is encrypted
[05:43] <vbgunz> redeeman: i am looking up info on it now
[05:43] <redeeman> vbgunz: you can use any filesystems you like on it
[05:43] <UdontKnow> alexboy: not really
[05:43] <ProN00b> alexboy, smoke and mirrors are the tools of deception and deception is a mighty weapon
[05:43] <Strike4ce> answer it shouldnt be on loopback
[05:44] <Strike4ce> right?
[05:44] <alexboy> redeeman, so does that basically automate the creation and mounting/unmounting of loopback encrypted filesystems?
[05:44] <vbgunz> redeeman, does it basically create like a encrypted partition?
[05:44] <vbgunz> I am looking for it, one sec
[05:44] <alexboy> UdontKnow, how do you mean?
[05:44] <redeeman> what it does is act like an encryption layer
[05:44] <redeeman> alexboy: it doesent need to be loopback'ed
[05:44] <JustinHH> redeeman, i want to see the name and file system (fat32, ntfs) of my partitions
[05:44] <UdontKnow> (1128958982 12:43) < *alexboy> using encyption in a client/server environment is largely just smoke and mirrors...
[05:44] <alexboy> ProN00b, I was basically meaning that it's a waste of time
[05:44] <UdontKnow> alexboy: not really, it works
[05:44] <redeeman> JustinHH: ?
[05:45] <UdontKnow> alexboy: and works well
[05:45] <redeeman> for example, i just setup my server
[05:45] <redeeman> i have raid -> dm-crypt -> filesystem
[05:45] <redeeman> so all storage is aes 256bit encrypted
[05:45] <ProN00b> it isn't, in alot of cases, alexboy, people aren't that skilled nowdays
[05:45] <JustinHH> redeeman, i want to mount my ntfs and fat32 partition in order to be able to access them from ubuntu
[05:45] <redeeman> JustinHH: oh - there is a script which adds them to fstab
[05:46] <ProN00b> even having to mount a disk manually might keep some people with access too your system from viewing it ^^
[05:46] <vbgunz> redeeman: i am searching for it in Synaptic and checking for it through the CLI, but I cannot find dm-crypt or dmcrypt
[05:46] <redeeman> i cant remember the url, since i dont normally use ubuntu (i am only helping a guy with it)
[05:46] <JustinHH> i know how to add them to fstab
[05:46] <alexboy> UdontKnow, I mean encryption of the files. if your disks are in a secure location then you dont have to worry about theft. if your OS is keeping users data seperate properly then you dont need to encrypt it. if your OS security is all fucked then encrypting wont help you as you can just snarf it all out of memory anyway
[05:46] <redeeman> vbgunz: cryptsetup - i dont know if its in the repo's
[05:46] <Johnzie> hi.. I'm trying to print to a shared printer. The Printer is connected to a WinXP machine and already shared. What username and password do I need to use to print through that computer?
[05:46] <vbgunz> ok looking
[05:46] <JustinHH> but i don't  know their place on the hdd
[05:46] <redeeman> vbgunz: in the kernel, you need device mapper and dmcrypt, and for userspace you need device mapper and cryptsetup
[05:47] <vbgunz> redeeman: I found it
[05:47] <JustinHH> 4 ex /dev/hda2 ntfs or fat32?
[05:47] <ProN00b> JustinHH, fdisk hda, fdisk hdb, fdisk hdd, and so on, press p each time to view the partition table
[05:47] <vbgunz> redeeman: it is in Synaptic
[05:47] <redeeman> ok
[05:47] <alexboy> basically your time would be better spent encrypting your links into and out of the server
[05:47] <JustinHH> ProN00b,  thx
[05:47] <alexboy> imo
[05:47] <redeeman> alexboy: not for any purpose
[05:47] <HilBilly> or you can fdisk -l to show them all
[05:47] <redeeman> alexboy: i am locally connected to my fileserver, i dont need encryption on the link, but i damn need it on my data, if anyone steals the server
[05:47] <vbgunz> redeeman: have any walkthroughs for making this work onhand? Just curious, am about to google *unless* you have a good article
[05:48] <ProN00b> and mount should tell you warn you about if its fat or ntfs, so you can't do anything wrong, JustinHH
[05:48] <redeeman> vbgunz: no article needed
[05:48] <vbgunz> redeeman: I am an uban00b
[05:48] <redeeman> vbgunz: just do: cryptsetup create encrypted /dev/inputdevice
[05:48] <redeeman> then it creates /dev/mapper/encrypted - and it asks for a password
[05:48] <alexboy> redeeman, then we're back to laptop-like mentality. i was talking about a client/server setup with the server kept in a secured datacentre
[05:48] <vbgunz> ok, will experiment :P
[05:48] <redeeman> vbgunz: you can experiment on a loopback device if you like
[05:49] <JustinHH> ProN00b, could you say pls the full command line?
[05:49] <redeeman> vbgunz: just google for dm-crypt, then you get to the dmcrypt homepage, which has info you might like
[05:49] <vbgunz> a loopback device, is that like a virtual drive on Windows?
[05:49] <redeeman> loopback takes a file and creates a block device
[05:49] <ProN00b> JustinHH, fdisk -l
[05:49] <vbgunz> I think I understand... I need to experiment :D
[05:49] <JustinHH> that is what i wanted to hear
[05:50] <JustinHH> :P
[05:51] <vbgunz> redeeman: just one last thing, the only device mapper I found is "Hardware Abstraction Layer user interface"
[05:51] <redeeman> vbgunz: what do you mean
[05:51] <Johnzie> Anyone know how to print to a Windows Printer (SMB) over a network?
[05:54] <vbgunz> I looked up device in Synaptic, that was the only title I had with the word device in it
[05:54] <vbgunz> http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/
[05:54] <vbgunz> thats the homepage?
[05:54] <warlord^> does anyone have any idea on what i can do to get the installation started on ubuntu
[05:54] <UdontKnow> alexboy: of course, thats not the case with my encrypted systems, as I know how to build one :) you're going to a particular case...
[05:54] <UdontKnow> alexboy: but yes, the OS and privileges have great influence
[05:54] <UdontKnow> alexboy: :)
[05:54] <redeeman> cryptsetup depends on device-mapper - so if you just apt-get install that (or with synaptic) it should be fine
[05:54] <alexboy> any sblive users around?
[05:54] <alexboy> or just anyone who can explain why ubuntu appears to think I have two soundcards when I only have one
[05:54] <vbgunz> hey redeeman thank you, I believe that page will help me out big time, thank you for pointing dm-crypt out!
[05:54] <ProN00b> vbgunz, you got 500 users on your sys ?
[05:55] <vbgunz> ProN00b, no, that many accounts in plain text
[05:55] <vbgunz> passwords and everything...
[05:55] <ProN00b> well, that should still be almost 500 users
[05:55] <goh> Hi, I've just installed my printer using cups. It acts stange as it can only print a test page and in geedit. It can't print in other applications. Any ideas?
[05:55] <jwd_> where can I get a good apt-get source.list file?
[05:55] <vbgunz> I currently do not have it on the system at the moment as it is encrypted *but* not on Ubuntu
[05:55] !lilo:*! Small split occurred.... affected users, 156.... we're looking at the problem
[05:56] <N6REJ> Johnzie: https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html
[05:57] <vbgunz> *but* I do wish to put these files onto Ubuntu, they're not users, they're all me, over 6 years of passwords for my various internet activities
[05:58] <vbgunz> I just don't want them to sit there and I don't wish to unpack them when I need a password, then repackage them when I am done...
[05:58] <Johnzie> uhh how do i get psm for mozilla?
[05:58] <Johnzie> !psm
[05:58] <N6REJ> Johnzie: though I haven't ran through it yet... its in my printouts of things to do.
[05:58] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Johnzie
[05:58] <Ainvar> ok why is it I have an icon for gnomebaker in my menu list when I cant use it unless I sudo it?
[05:58] <Ainvar> Is there also a way to be able to use gnomebaker without running it as root?
[05:58] <Johnzie> thanks
[05:59] !lilo:*! We'll be doing some weeding on klines in a bit. This means that you will see some return from old bots, though it's usually not huge. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[05:59] <Johnzie> hhmm https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html wouldnt work
[06:00] <Johnzie> nm... tooks the s off the https
[06:00] <vbgunz> Ainvar: did you install as a root user?
[06:00] <Ainvar> I installed it from synaptics
[06:00] <Ainvar> so yes I guess it was installed in root
[06:00] <Johnzie> I'm sharing a windows XP printer with linux machines
[06:01] <Syruss> what's a windows xp printer? :)
[06:01] <Johnzie> one that's connected to widnows xp :-p
[06:01] <Answer> it means it is installed as a local printer in a Windows XP machine and then shared.
[06:01] <Syruss> we have a linux printer herre
[06:01] <Syruss> but it's actually running linux itself :)
[06:02] <warlord^> Answer: the advice you gave me didn't worked
[06:02] <alexboy> vbgunz, have you looked into revelation ?
[06:02] <vbgunz> alexboy: revelation?
[06:02] <Johnzie> chapter 10 is supposed to explain it
[06:02] <vbgunz> alexboy: no, what is it?
[06:02] <alexboy> gnome password manager
[06:02] <alexboy> keeps everything in a AES encrypted file
[06:03] <alexboy> would take more legwork then what you're after but the results will be more streamlined
[06:03] <alexboy> i just started using it today, it looks pretty nice
[06:04] <vbgunz> ok will check it, its called revelation?
[06:04] <vbgunz> will search for it now
[06:04] <alexboy> yes, its in the 'add programs' bit on breezy
[06:04] <Ainvar> ok any idieas on why I can only blank/burn cd/dvds with gnomebaker in root?
[06:04] <Ainvar> Is there a special group or something I need to add my account to?
[06:04] <alexboy> Ainvar, permissions on your device?
[06:05] <Ainvar> same as all the other devices root
[06:05] <Ainvar> but let me verify
[06:05] <alexboy> Ainvar, ls -l the device and paste the output
[06:05] <vbgunz> alexboy: I found it, I use to use Roboform... That was the absolute best program for Windows *but* almost no equivalent for Linux :(
[06:05] <vbgunz> I'll try Revelation...
[06:05] <Ainvar> ok
[06:06] <alexboy> vbgunz, I think for form-filling and whatnot there are extensions to firefox
[06:06] <Ainvar> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-10-10 10:48 /dev/sr0 -> scd0
[06:06] <budluva> as root, how can i recover a lost user password?
[06:06] <Ainvar> brw-rw----  1 root cdrom 11, 0 2005-10-10 10:48 /dev/scd0
[06:06] <alexboy> are you in the 'cdrom' group?
[06:06] <Ainvar> umm let me check
[06:07] <vbgunz> I found one which seemed pretty good *but* it was different... It required a key like GPG and then it would create passwords for you depending on that key... great idea *but* haven't really looked into it... Also, I used Roboform for much more than just passwords... Saved forms, etc...
[06:07] <alexboy> vbgunz, revelation does a bit of automated clipboard trickery i think but I was just looking for something trustworthy to keep all my accounts in
[06:07] <Ainvar> alexboy what is the best way to see the list of groups i am in?
[06:08] <Ainvar> there is no cdrom group
[06:08] <Ainvar> there is a cdrom user though according to the gnome users and groups app
[06:09] <Ainvar> the cdrom is gid 24
[06:09] <alexboy> Ainvar, System -> Administration -> users and groups -> groups
[06:09] <vbgunz> alexboy, I will let you know, I hope it's good :P
[06:09] <alexboy> select the cdrom group and see if you're a member
[06:09] <Jaivaz> Is upgrading to Breezy safe right now? Or should I wait till it's full release?
[06:09] <Ainvar> yes I am part of the cdrom group
[06:09] <alexboy> vbgunz, me too :)
[06:09] <Ainvar> my username and hal are the only two users in that group
[06:09] <alexboy> Ainvar, bugger.
[06:10] <ThePyromaniac> hey, anyone know a good gameboy advanced emulator?
[06:10] <Ainvar> do you think the sr0 device needs to have the cdrom group also?
[06:10] <alexboy> Ainvar, what errors are you getting, does the same thing work as root?
[06:10] <Strike4ce> I want to setup wpasupplicant to do tkip. Can anyone direct me or help me?
[06:10] <alexboy> Ainvar, should be find as it's full perms for everyone
[06:11] <Ainvar> when I run it under my account I get a sid error telling me it does not have permission to use/lock the device
[06:11] <Ainvar> in root, it runs perfectly
[06:11] <alexboy> do you have a /dev/cdrom# or anything else that your burner could be looking at?
[06:11] <Ainvar> yes but when I tell gnomebaker to use that or to find it, it only shows and will use the sr0
[06:12] <Ainvar> I have a /dev/cdrom and a /dev/cdrom0
[06:12] <alexboy> what are the perms on those?
[06:12] <Ainvar> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-10-10 10:48 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[06:12] <alexboy> Ainvar, fucking hell. :/
[06:12] <alexboy> (pardon my french)
[06:12] <Ainvar> hehe
[06:13] <Ainvar> no worries
[06:13] <Ainvar> I have been saying that and worse
[06:13] <Strike4ce> I want to setup wpasupplicant to do tkip. Can anyone direct me or help me?
[06:13] <jwd_> I got a problem figuring out apt-get and dpkg
[06:13] <jwd_> which od I use
[06:13] <jwd_> or both
[06:13] <jwd_> ?
[06:13] <Answer> Somebody help Strike4ce setup wpasupplicant and tkip!
[06:14] <Ainvar> dpkg is used to install local deb files and apt-get is used for remote I believe
[06:14] <jwd_> so if I use apt-get it gets them and installs them?
[06:14] <dbug> anyone can tell me the pach name to unistall pachs ubuntu don't neeed ?
[06:15] <alexboy> Ainvar, have you tried runnig gnomebaker from within a terminal window to see if additional debugging info is pasted there which might help you?
[06:15] <Ainvar> alexboy: I will try that now
[06:15] <dbug> deb..... something
[06:15] <gilligan_> hi
[06:15] <alexboy> evening, gilligan_
[06:16] <warlord^> can anyone help me installing ubuntu ?
[06:16] <alexboy> warlord^, what's the issue?
[06:16] <Ainvar> the error from within gnomebaker:    Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second.
[06:16] <Ainvar> the error in the cli when executing gnomebaker
[06:16] <alexboy> Ainvar, run 'fuser /dev/sg0'
[06:16] <warlord^> when i boot on the dvd i get a promt and from there i can't do anything
[06:16] <Ainvar> ** (gnomebaker:10466): CRITICAL **: failed to create temp 13
[06:17] <gilligan_> hm,is there some way to *temporarily* switch the language in a shell ? I guess not ? trying to fix some ubuntu installation and the fucked up german translation is almost unbarable..
[06:17] <alexboy> Ainvar, that last error's an interesting one
[06:17] <alexboy> warlord^, what's the prompt?
[06:17] <Ainvar> if I rin that command with my credentials, I get permission denied
[06:18] <alexboy> Ainvar, sudo it
[06:18] <[LethAL] > What do I need to do to move my boot files over to my main partition?
[06:18] <Ainvar> when I sudo that command, it goes back to a command prompt
[06:18] <alexboy> Ainvar, hrm.. okay
[06:18] <warlord^> alexboy: [DR-DOS]  A:\
[06:18] <alexboy> Ainvar, is that 'unable to create temp' thing the last thing you get
[06:18] <Anak1n> !p2p
[06:18] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Anak1n
[06:18] <Ainvar> This in running breezy on the i686 kernel with all the latest updates
[06:19] <alexboy> warlord^, that aint the install cd.
[06:19] <Ainvar> alexboy yes
[06:19] <Anak1n> can anyone tell me which p2p is the best?
[06:19] <warlord^> alexboy: its the dvd version
[06:19] <Syruss> which p2p what?
[06:19] <Syruss> network/client/server?
[06:19] <butcherbird> Anak1n, nicotine isnt bad for music
[06:19] <budluva> where can i find a copy of an original hoary sources.list?
[06:19] <Anak1n> nicotin is slow
[06:19] <wabble> gtk-gnutella works
[06:19] <alexboy> Ainvar, double check your config and make sure you're not using any temp directories or anything else you dont have permission to write to
[06:19] <butcherbird> Anak1n, bah =)
[06:19] <Syruss> Anak1n, bit torrent
[06:19] <Anak1n> Syruss: client
[06:19] <Ainvar> ok
[06:20] <Syruss> try to get on a private bit torrent site
[06:20] <Anak1n> thx
[06:20] <Syruss> where it works with a ratio
[06:20] <Syruss> then you'll get faster downloads.
[06:20] <Strike4ce> I want to setup wpasupplicant to do tkip. Can anyone direct me or help me?
[06:20] <Syruss> :/
[06:20] <alexboy> Anak1n, commercial downloads are usually nice and fast
[06:20] <Syruss> Strike4ce, the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.example file is useful
[06:20] <wabble> i need some nfs fstab help.. i cant get fstab to mount for me.. anyone?
[06:21] <Syruss> (I think that's the right path)
[06:21] <alexboy> Anak1n, for  sampling i'd recommened  you look into streamtuner
[06:21] <alexboy> heh
[06:21] <alexboy> dumb theif ;)
[06:22] <apoZ`> hi everybody
[06:23] <alexboy> right, I'm away!
[06:23] <Licker> is tehre an apt-get command to get vanilla flavored apache 1.3
[06:24] <Syruss> just get normal apache
[06:24] <Syruss> stop being weird :p
[06:24] <Licker> i dont want apache2
[06:24] <Syruss> hmm
[06:24] <sorush20> how do I log in as root in ubuntu..
[06:24] <Licker> login
[06:24] <BurgerMann> sorush20: you don't :D
[06:24] <Syruss> well you'll want to add a different repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:24] <butcherbird> apache is 1.3 i believe
[06:24] <atripathi> goodevening all
[06:25] <BurgerMann> sorush20: you use 'sudo' infront of the commands you wish to execute
[06:25] <greenpenguin13> hello
[06:25] <tHirso> Hey, can anyone help me? ive just burned ubuntu 5.10(live+cd install) to a cd, when im doing the base system installation, it stays for a while at 6% taking some time to retreive a few items and then goes to 27% and i get an error.Is there anyone i can know if its the cd or if its the .iso that is corrupt or sth?
[06:25] <sorush20> BurgerMann: I'm unable to access the administrator mode in the samba option ..
[06:25] <BurgerMann> sorush20, using X?, you should be prompted for a password
[06:25] <Licker> sorush20: su root
[06:25] <sorush20> How do I share a linux pc to a windows  pc..
[06:25] <Licker> ?
[06:25] <greenpenguin13> try checking the md5sum
[06:26] <sorush20> BurgerMann: yes.. but I don't know what the command is for the kde printer manager..
[06:26] <tHirso> greenpenguin13: which soft can i use to check it?
[06:26] <greenpenguin13> do you have a linux computer currently?
[06:26] <sorush20> BurgerMann: so I have to run it form the kde menu which doesn't run it in root mode.
[06:26] <tHirso> no im on winows
[06:26] <atripathi> i messed my apache2 conf through webmin.
[06:26] <budluva> where can i find a copy of an original hoary sources.list?
[06:27] <sorush20> what is the url for the printer config ..
[06:27] <Licker> Syruss: how do i do that?
[06:27] <fangorious> i have a samba share set up on my breezy machine. windows machine on the lan with the same workgroup seem to be able to access the shares. but windows machines on the lan which are not part of the workgroup (nor can they be configured as such) get a username/password prompt which invariably fails
[06:27] <wabble> could anybody with some fstab experience tell me... whats wrong? my ip:/media/harddrive/folder/folder	/home/user/folder/folder	nfs	rw,hard,initr	0	0
[06:27] <atripathi> which command of dpkg can reset the entire apache2 configuration files to default during installation
[06:27] <greenpenguin13> if you do, try the md5sum program
[06:27] <Syruss> Licker, I don't know, use google to find the answer, google for: apache 1.3 ubuntu
[06:28] <Licker> kk
[06:28] <dougsko> hi guys
[06:28] <butcherbird> atripathi, you can dpkg --purge apache2 and then apt-get again
[06:28] <VoX> wabble: what's the error?
[06:28] <Syruss> Licker,
[06:28] <Licker> ?
[06:28] <Syruss> are you sure 'apt-get install apache' doesn't install v 1.3?
[06:28] <Licker> humm
[06:28] <wabble> VoX:  no mount :/
[06:28] <Syruss> and apt-get install apache2 installs apache2
[06:28] <Syruss> ?
[06:28] <Syruss> :/
[06:28] <Licker> havnt tested it
[06:29] <Licker> :/
[06:29] <Syruss> well there you go
[06:29] <VoX> wabble: what's the exact error msg
[06:29] <Syruss> lol.
[06:29] <Syruss> jeeze
[06:29] <Licker> whats the command to get rid of apache2>?
[06:29] <atripathi> is the downloaded package(s) cached somewhere on my system so that there is no need to download all over again ?
[06:29] <wabble> VoX: no message
[06:29] <Syruss> apt-get remove --purge apache2
[06:29] <Licker> thanx
[06:29] <Syruss> that'll get rid of the conf files too
[06:29] <VoX> wabble: so.. there's no error
[06:29] <Syruss> (the --purge does that bit)
[06:30] <Licker> kk
[06:30] <Ainvar> when you remove an app is there a way you can tell it to remove all the dependicies that were needed just for that application?
[06:30] <Syruss> oh, and remember, apt-cache search somepackage searches
[06:30] <Syruss> but you can use synaptic package manager to manage all this stuff anyway
[06:30] <atripathi> actually i was thinking of some workaround to reconfigure the already installed setup. Though i knew ultimate one is to redownload and reinstall
[06:30] <dougsko> i just installed breezy today, and i have a little prob., when i go to System->Screen Resolution Prefs, it has my refresh rate at 60 and it needs to be 70Hz, but that option isnt there, so my screen is off some. any ideas?
[06:30] <Syruss> Ainvar, probably, try: man apt-get
[06:30] <VoX> Ainvar: apt-get --purge remove <package>
[06:31] <wabble> VoX: no mount?
[06:31] <Syruss> that doesn't remove the dependancies VoX
[06:31] <Syruss> I don't know whether apt is actually that clever
[06:31] <VoX> oh
[06:31] <Ainvar> I am familiar with all the basic apt-get commands
[06:31] <Syruss> portage can do it in gentoo :p
[06:31] <Ainvar> yes it can
[06:31] <wabble> VoX: when i boot up the computer does not mount the listings in fstab, i dont know how to find any output on errors during boot..
[06:31] <VoX> apt wont do it.. there's a program to do it tho
[06:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here ever use gnoise?...i have a problem
[06:31] <Ainvar> but I was hoping for something like that in ubuntu
[06:31] <atripathi> dougsko......edit yr /etc/X11/xorg.conf   Monitor Section
[06:31] <Syruss> wabble, dmesg | less
[06:31] <dougsko> sweet, thanks
[06:32] <wabble> VoX: but, what i pasted in looks ok?
[06:32] <VoX> wabble: ys
[06:32] <wabble> Syruss: ill have a go :)
[06:32] <atripathi> Syruss.........thanks man i got all the files i downloaded. :)
[06:32] <wabble> VoX: ok :)
[06:32] <Syruss> no worries
[06:32] <evian> is there a keyboard macro program I can use with ubuntu?
[06:32] <Syruss> yer, gnome has something built in
[06:33] <Syruss> system/prefrences/keyboard shortcuts
[06:33] <atripathi> hey buddy how to install from the cache ?
[06:33] <Syruss> atripathi, by default ubuntu will use it's apt cache
[06:33] <Syruss> so you don't have to do anything
[06:33] <atripathi> k lemme try
[06:33] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know of a good wave editor program?
[06:33] <Syruss> Sonny_Wertzik, have a look on google
[06:33] <Syruss> :p
[06:34] <Syruss> linux sound edit program
[06:34] <Syruss> google is your friend.
[06:34] <Syruss> google is your friend.
[06:34] <rep> hi, anyone know how to tell make-kpkg to compile a new kernel without having to run "make-kpkg clean" first? (i don't want to have to recompile the whole thing if i only touched one file)
[06:34] <ccc_> Sonny_Wertzik: audacity perhaps?
[06:35] <Sonny_Wertzik> hmm ok i just waned to make sure someone had tried it and it works,,,thats why i ask..i cant get gnoise to work
[06:35] <Sonny_Wertzik> audacity!! ok ty
[06:35] <wabble> Syruss: can't see anything about errors on mount..
[06:35] <Syruss> hmm
[06:35] <dougsko> atripathi: would i need to reboot to see the effects?
[06:35] <jwd_> how do I configure xfree86-common
[06:36] <Syruss> you can mount things from /etc/fstab whenever you like wabble
[06:36] <Syruss> you don't have to reboot
[06:36] <sorush20> guys what does the term "released on bond" mean,.
[06:36] <jwd_> I keep getting this error
[06:36] <jwd_> from dpkg
[06:36] <Sonny_Wertzik> Syruss, yes audacity looks good ty.
[06:36] <Syruss> and /etc/mtab will show you what's currently mounted
[06:36] <apoZ`> Hi, does anybody know how to get the display pictures of MSN in GAIM ??
[06:36] <atripathi> doug....its not a good idea to reboot on linux ;) But yes i did reboot but i guess gdm might do some trick without reboot.
[06:37] <atripathi> why dont you try to restart gdm........I didnt try it though
[06:37] <fangorious> where should I find the samba password file? it doesn't seem to be in /etc/samba
[06:37] <Syruss> wabble, to try and mount something in fstab...follow my instructions, say you had the following line in your fstab:
[06:37] <Syruss> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:37] <apoZ`> Does anyone know how to get the display picture like in MSN in GAIM ???
[06:37] <Syruss> you could try:
[06:38] <Belutz> apoZ`, it's enabled by default right?
[06:38] <Syruss> sudo mount /dev/hdc
[06:38] <dougsko> yeah i figured thered probly be some trick, but you know, when something doesnt work, the universal answer is to just toggle the source, haha
[06:38] <wabble> Syruss: yeah i know. The strange is that it works when i write it in manualy mount -t nfs /blablabla/ /blabla but not with fstab..
[06:38] <dougsko> ok, thanks
[06:38] <dougsko> cya
[06:38] <Mpmc> what is breezy released, I heard it was today?
[06:38] <Syruss> and then it would use the fstab to figure out the options about that mount
[06:38] <Mpmc> when*
[06:38] <wabble> Syruss: yes, manual works. But not with fstab
[06:38] <Belutz> Mpmc, october 13th
[06:38] <Syruss> (and tell you what goes wrong)
[06:38] <Mpmc> oh
[06:38] <Mpmc> ok
[06:38] <apoZ`> Mpmc, 3 days to breezy
[06:38] <Belutz> :)
[06:38] <Syruss> sudo mount /dev/hdc would use the fstab file wabble
[06:39] <apoZ`> What will it be more than this version?
[06:39] <wabble> ok, two sec..
[06:39] <atripathi> Hey how can I safely upgrade from hoary to breezy using the installation CD ?
[06:39] <Syruss> sudo mount -t iso9660....blah..blah would override the fstab stuff
[06:39] <Syruss> mount looks in /etc/fstab first for things
[06:39] <atripathi> Syruss will that mount an ISO ?
[06:39] <Maikeru> 3 days to breezy
[06:40] <Maikeru> 4 to my birthday
[06:40] <Syruss> sudo mount -t iso9660 won't do anything apart from complain
[06:40] <atripathi> lucky.....I too got my bday in 9 days
[06:40] <Belutz> Maikeru, a gift in advance? :D
[06:40] <Maikeru> I wish the release of breezy was one day later
[06:40] <Maikeru> man that'd rock
[06:40] <Syruss> if you've done a normal ubuntu cd, your cds should appear on your desktop and mount when you double click them
[06:40] <Belutz> Maikeru, gnome 2.12 was out on my birthday :D
[06:40] <Maikeru> lucky
[06:40] <atripathi> Is there any way to mount an ISO image?
[06:41] <Maikeru> ugh
[06:41] <Maikeru> vmware is being a...er...something
[06:41] <Maikeru> so now I just installed 5.5 beta
[06:41] <Maikeru> but I don't have a key for that
[06:41] <Maikeru> does beta require a key though?
[06:42] <Syruss> you don't need vmware
[06:42] <Syruss> you only need kqemu
[06:42] <Syruss> just as fast, but free.
[06:42] <Maikeru> oh
[06:42] <Maikeru> really?
[06:42] <Syruss> yup
[06:42] <Maikeru> runs Windows XP and all?
[06:42] <Syruss> c'mon guys
[06:42] <Syruss> yes.
[06:42] <Maikeru> oh
[06:42] <Maikeru> well hell
[06:42] <amx109> hi, i have a problem with monitor resolutions. in windows i can hit 1280x1024@100hz, but in ubuntu it will only go as high as 85hz. ive fiddled with xorg.conf quite a bit, even as far as specifying absolute horizontal and vertical refresh rates, but X doesnt like it. is this a limitation in X or is there another kludge/hack that will let me achieve my goal?
[06:42] <Syruss> lollercopter.
[06:42] <wabble> Syruss: im putting my command to you private, hope it's ok.
[06:42] <Syruss> yer ok
[06:42] <Syruss> I have to go and play badminton shortly though :p
[06:43] <atripathi> amx...u need to edit xorg.conf
[06:43] <atripathi> see.....how i tell
[06:43] <amx109> atripathi: i already did
[06:43] <wabble>  this works
[06:43] <amx109> atripathi: multiple times. nothing
[06:43] <evian> kqemu isn't quite as fast as vmware
[06:43] <atripathi> Do u know yr monitor's HorizSync, and VertRefresh ?
[06:43] <evian> but it is good
[06:43] <amx109> yes
[06:43] <tHirso> I'm getting an error during the base system install (ver 5.10) , is there any way i can identify whats wrong(cd or iso)?
[06:43] <Rev-Marc> is there any place to download the 64bit DVD other than by torrent?
[06:44] <Maikeru> is kqemu in the repositories
[06:44] <atripathi> to be sure just do   sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:44] <amx109> ahh
[06:44] <Johnzie> how do I install wine?
[06:44] <Maikeru> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:44] <Maikeru> though wine won't work for me
[06:44] <evian> Maikeru, theres a howto about kqemu in the forums
[06:44] <Maikeru> but I'm a special case
[06:44] <apoZ`> How can i get my network server in the local bar , for selecting music for instance... ????
[06:44] <amx109> atripathi: returns nothing unfortuantely
[06:44] <Maikeru> evian: oh, but I was just curious if it was in the repositories?
[06:44] <atripathi> Johnzie learn using  Synaptic
[06:44] <atripathi> ???
[06:45] <Maikeru> or would I have to d/l it
[06:45] <evian> Maikeru, don't think so
[06:45] <atripathi> try   sudo ddcprobe
[06:45] <amx109> atripathi: without the grep, i get back res's v colour depth
[06:45] <amx109> nothing about refresh rates
[06:45] <Maikeru> mmk
[06:45] <Maikeru> thanks
[06:45] <Maikeru> brb
[06:45] <Maikeru> gotta reboot anyway
[06:46] <atripathi> i can do it on my system
[06:46] <amx109> i think i should mention im using the nvidia binary drivers
[06:46] <amx109> hmmm
[06:46] <atripathi> try again and see the spaces here.      sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:47] <amx109> atripathi:  nothing
[06:47] <apoZ`> How can i get my network server in the local bar , for selecting music for instance... ????
[06:47] <atripathi> ok let me do a hitntrial
[06:47] <amx109> it does say 'edidfail' right at the end, if thats of any use to you?
[06:47] <atripathi> make backup of xorg.conf
[06:47] <amx109> ok
[06:47] <Syruss> make a backup of all your conf files.
[06:47] <Syruss> that's just common sense
[06:48] <atripathi> now in the monitor section key in       HorizSync  30-71
[06:48] <amx109> ok. restart X?
[06:48] <pussfeller> i just upgraded to breezy and now getting errors about unmet deps regarding libfontconfig
[06:48] <atripathi> indeed.....i made the mistake and am in trouble over apache2 :)
[06:49] <atripathi> amx.......remove the VertRefresh line in the same section
[06:49] <amx109> ok, done
[06:50] <dougsko> atripathi: it didnt work, i changed VertRefresh to include 70Hz, rebooted, but the option still isnt there when i go to change it
[06:50] <atripathi> i guess it should be ok now........give it a reboot.....thats odd but it worked for me
[06:50] <atripathi> no remove VertRefresh
[06:50] <amx109> hmm
[06:50] <atripathi> do tell me if it works
[06:50] <dougsko> atripathi: just delete that line?
[06:50] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, anyone know why when i type 'make' after running ./configure i get about 650 errors?
[06:51] <atripathi> yeah remove VertRefresh entry from that section
[06:51] <atripathi> it should be like VertRefresh 50-160.......... just delete this entry from there
[06:51] <dougsko> ok cool
[06:51] <Subliminal> hat does the ubuntu installer use to set up X.org?
[06:52] <pussfeller> so should I run with -f and force it, but ownt that break everything?
[06:52] <dougsko> ill be back after another boot
[06:52] <Subliminal> i have a new wirless mouse, but it is registering middle mouse button clicks when there arent any
[06:52] <atripathi> hey guys does debian has any certification like Redhat ?
[06:53] <vbgunz> I swear Ubuntu looks better by the day, I just made my system look great!
[06:53] <linuxboy> is there any shared calendar app for ubuntu?
[06:53] <VoX> anyone here able to help me with a chroot issue?
[06:53] <Maikeru> hey
[06:53] <ThePyromaniac> anyone use VBA-Frontend?
[06:53] <Maikeru> anyone have a link to the kqemu forum posting
[06:53] <Maikeru> ?
[06:54] <andrius> hello all
[06:54] <vbgunz> I have a tiny issue I hope someone would have some insight on! Where would I change my mouse middle scroll behaviour? It currently scrolls too far... *but* I cannot modify from the mouse dialog... There has to be an option somwhere?
[06:54] <andrius> anyone installed ubuntu on a thinkpad t43?
[06:54] <Subliminal> vbgunz: if it's kde check out the kontrol app, probably the same on gnome
[06:55] <vbgunz> Subliminal, I am on Gnome, I never seen the Kontrol app :(
[06:55] <vbgunz> kontrol: command not found
[06:55] <Subliminal> vbgunz: yeah, it's a the kde control centre
[06:56] <Subliminal> gnome must have something similar
[06:56] <andrius> am having trouble trying to get it to dual boot, without installing grub onto the MBR (according to all the documentation I've read, installing onto the MBR makes it lose some very important functionality)....
[06:56] <vbgunz> Gnome has a mouse panel *but* no option for the middle wheel... What up with that? KDE, sounds good here >:|
[06:57] <shinmen> Any idea where to get Martin Pitt's GPG keys?
[06:57] <shinmen> s/keys/key for his canonical.com account?/
[06:57] <MrGardenHoseMan> can anyone recomend an ftp client with ssl/tls support?
[06:58] <TiMiDo> MrGardenHoseMan gftp
[06:58] <spiral> hi
[06:58] <TiMiDo> spiral hi
[06:58] <vbgunz> Gnomes mouse support blows westward...
[06:58] <MrGardenHoseMan> i thought it didn't support ssl?
[06:58] <TiMiDo> it does,
[06:58] <poimen> hi
[06:59] <TiMiDo> hi poimen
[06:59] <poimen> :)
[06:59] <poimen> I tried to install ubuntu
[06:59] <poimen> and It frezed
[06:59] <TiMiDo> where?
[06:59] <poimen> also mandriva and suse did
[06:59] <poimen> but
[06:59] <poimen> linux noapic did it for mandriva and suse
[06:59] <Subliminal> any ideas on why my  middle mouse button thinks it's being pressed?
[06:59] <poimen> but for ubuntu does not
[07:00] <poimen> does linux noapic dont is the command for ubuntu?
[07:00] <gfxstyler> hi
[07:00] <poimen> hi
[07:00] <TiMiDo> Subliminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <Subliminal> many thanks
[07:00] <TiMiDo> poimen all linux has the same commands, but it may not have the same, packaged management
[07:01] <poimen> what would be the problem :(?? the package mannagement I dont think so
[07:01] <Maikeru> uh oh
[07:01] <Maikeru> The package vmwareworkstation needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:01] <TiMiDo> poimen not every linux distribution has apt
[07:01] <Maikeru> when I apt-get install qemu
[07:02] <Maikeru> or anything
[07:02] <Maikeru> synaptic won't show any files
[07:02] <TiMiDo> Maikeru do sudo apt-cache search qemu
[07:02] <Maikeru> done
[07:02] <macgeek> question: i wasn't able to install the 'remaining packages' for ubuntu, so i skipped that step. now when i try to boot without the cd, it hangs at the 'installing packages' screen. is that due to the fact that i didnt install the remaining packages? or is it hardware?
[07:02] <budluva> 25/tcp  open  smtp
[07:02] <budluva> 631/tcp open  ipp
[07:02] <SuperSonix> How can i download C/C++ compailer on Ubuntu 5.04 and how much is in mb ??
[07:02] <budluva> what service is ipp?
[07:02] <gfxstyler> SuperSonix: apt-get install build-essential
[07:03] <TiMiDo> SuperSonix sudo apt-get instal build-essential
[07:03] <syli725> hi, just one quick question. I am using fedora right now. How hard ubuntu installation is? I tried to install debian before. just a pain for me. fedora is easy to install. and give me all the support for my hardware, eg, sound card, video card etc. works fine. fedora can auto detect all of them. I am wondering how hard the installation of ubuntu is? auto detect everything? harder or easier than debian?
[07:03] <poimen> ok
[07:03] <Maikeru> [root@whitehat /home/maikeru/Desktop/vmware-distrib] $ apt-cache search qemu
[07:03] <Maikeru> qemu - fast processor emulator
[07:03] <Maikeru> vgabios - VGA BIOS software for the Bochs and Qemu emulated VGA card
[07:03] <SuperSonix> how much in mb ?
[07:03] <Maikeru> but apt-get is still screwed
[07:03] <gfxstyler> syli725: even my grandmother could do it
[07:03] <TiMiDo> Maikeru do apt-get update and try again
[07:03] <syli725> gfxstyler, you serious? LOL
[07:03] <Maikeru> I've done that already
[07:03] <Maikeru> but okay
[07:03] <gfxstyler> SuperSonix: dont know, should be not much
[07:04] <Maikeru> yep
[07:04] <SuperSonix> gfxstyler: <10 or >10
[07:04] <gfxstyler> syli725: its really easy :)
[07:04] <Maikeru> still the problem with vmwareworkstation
[07:04] <Maikeru> I tried running vmware-uninstall.pl and reinstalling, just running vmware-uninstall.pl, that din fix it
[07:04] <asraniel> hi there. is there a way to tell dhclient that on startup it should only take the ip from the dhcp server, but keep the dns severs?
[07:04] <gfxstyler> SuperSonix: i dont know
[07:04] <Maikeru> I also tried installing and installing a 2nd time
[07:04] <SuperSonix> ok
[07:04] <SuperSonix> thanks
[07:04] <gfxstyler> SuperSonix: whats your problem with the size anyway?
[07:04] <Maikeru> only thing I can possibly think of is to download vmware workstation 5 and install that
[07:04] <macgeek> gfxstyler: actually i am having a lot of trouble installing ubuntu :|
[07:04] <Maikeru> then uninstall vmware
[07:04] <SuperSonix> internet cap :(
[07:05] <gfxstyler> macgeek: whats the problem?
[07:05] <syli725> gfxstyler, is installation of ubuntu is easier than debian? I don't need to pick the sound card etc by myself? they all will probabely work fine after I install?
[07:05] <squid0> hello folks
[07:05] <TiMiDo> syli725 yes it is
[07:05] <TiMiDo> hello Squid-
[07:05] <TiMiDo> bla *squid0
[07:05] <macgeek> gfxstyler: well i just posted it but noone answered. i wasn't able to install the 'remaining packages' for ubuntu, so i skipped that step. now when i try to boot without the cd, it hangs at the 'installing packages' screen. is that due to the fact that i didnt install the remaining packages? or is it hardware?
[07:05] <gfxstyler> syli725: yes its very easy compared to debian
[07:05] <shinmen> poimen, did you wrote "apic" or "apci"
[07:05] <squid0> hey TiMiDo
[07:05] <squid0> what's bla?
[07:05] <TiMiDo> sup
[07:05] <gfxstyler> syli725: i guess if you have no exotic soundcard it should be detected
[07:05] <ThePyromaniac> how do you use visualboyadvance?
[07:05] <TiMiDo> nothing squid0
[07:06] <squid0> so why did you do it?
[07:06] <syli725> TiMiDo, gfxstyler, thanks a lot. The reason why I want to ask is because I tried to install debian before. that is like a pain. even ask me to put some hardware parameters. i was like shocked when i saw it.
[07:06] <TiMiDo> syli725 np
[07:06] <gfxstyler> macgeek: does it freeze or does the computer still respond?
[07:07] <Maikeru> TiMiDo, at least I have DSL
[07:07] <Maikeru> makes this downloading vmware again a bit easier
[07:07] <apoZ`> Question : Can i put my network folder in the normal folders to select music from the network folder ??
[07:07] <budluva> how do i find out what is using my ports? ie port 25 if i dont want to run a mailserver, how can i stop the service, and remove the program? ie postfix or for port 631 ipp how do i stop and remove cups?
[07:07] <TiMiDo> apoZ` set up samba.
[07:07] <poimen> apic
[07:07] <budluva> or by default is port 25 and 631 open?
[07:08] <gfxstyler> budluva: you can disable services in breezy, i wouldnt remove cups/postfix etc....
[07:08] <syli725> TiMiDo, gfxstyler, thanks a lot for answering my questions. I will try ubuntu soon. Bye. :)
[07:08] <budluva> not in breezy
[07:08] <TiMiDo> see ya syli725
[07:08] <gfxstyler> syli725: bye
[07:08] <TiMiDo> 3 more days for breezy release
[07:09] <gfxstyler> budluva: you can get into dependency trouble if you remove that stuff i think
[07:09] <asraniel> hi there. is there a way to tell dhclient that on startup it should only take the ip from the dhcp server, but keep the dns severs?
[07:09] <butcherbird> budluva, you can always sudo /etc/inid.d/whatever stop, if thats all you want to do
[07:09] <Maikeru> let's see
[07:09] <Maikeru> 6 more science problems
[07:09] <Maikeru> then all I have to do is read notes
[07:09] <Maikeru> wheee
[07:09] <colinl> hu guys
[07:09] <TiMiDo> asraniel man dhcp
[07:09] <TiMiDo> hi colinl
[07:10] <colinl> anyone knows why deb-make isn't provided by the debmake package in Hoary? :)
[07:10] <macgeek> gfxstyler: i dont know if its necessarily frozen, but i can't do anything, because its trying to install. it just sits at 0%
[07:10] <Ruslan> How can I count lines in the file?
[07:10] <dougsko> asraniel: try looking at /etc/network/interfaces
[07:11] <Maikeru> well
[07:11] <Maikeru> go to the top of the file
[07:11] <gfxstyler> macgeek: if the installation isnt even completed then you could always try it again
[07:11] <Maikeru> and press the down arrow
[07:11] <asraniel> TiMiDo: did that, but there is no interesting option i could find...
[07:11] <colinl> Ruslan: wc -l
[07:11] <Maikeru> each time you press the down arrow
[07:11] <Maikeru> increment by 1
[07:11] <Maikeru> (so, you just count, at least that's the fun way)
[07:11] <macgeek> gfxstyler: when installing off the cd, it gave me an error when installing the 'remaining packages', so i skipped that
[07:11] <budluva> ok, i've stopped 25 smtp postfix, but i still have 1 open port, 631 ipp
[07:11] <Ruslan> colin1: Thank you.
[07:11] <gfxstyler> macgeek: what error? is the cd corrupt?
[07:11] <budluva> thats internet printing protocol, but it seems i dont have cups installed
[07:12] <budluva> how do i find out what service is using port 631?
[07:12] <TiMiDo> budluva sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:12] <budluva> 631/tcp open  ipp
[07:12] <macgeek> gfxstyler: the md5 sums didnt match. that was like my 7th time trying
[07:12] <budluva> thats what nmap puts out
[07:12] <marcus^> is WPA integrated in the next release?
[07:12] <squid0> how do i activate/use irda?
[07:12] <Narian-> Live-cd, hi, i have a problem with the live CD, when booting it halts and sais "kernel panic: not syncing, attempt to kill init!", any one know how i can solve this?'
[07:12] <marcus^> i have big problems with setting up WPA :/
[07:12] <TiMiDo> marcus^ yes it is
[07:12] <dougsko> i still cant change the screen's refresh rate, i even tried installing some more nvidia stuff
[07:12] <asraniel> dougsko: i cant see something interesting in this file, do you know what i should look for?
[07:12] <marcus^> TiMiDo: is it integrated in Breezy? heh
[07:13] <TiMiDo> yes
[07:13] <izm99> anyone experience ubuntu freezing?  I think it has to do w/my cpu: amd sempron 3000+ 754-pin.
[07:13] <Jerich> I just have a small question, I did a custom Ubuntu install, but i don't know what i need to install to have xorg working with XFCE4
[07:13] <gilligan_> Jerich, apt-get install xfce
[07:13] <budluva> breezy = 5.10?
[07:13] <TiMiDo> Jerich apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:13] <budluva> err breezy = 5.10rc?
[07:13] <Jerich> yeah I did
[07:13] <squid0> anyone know anything about irda in ubuntu?
[07:13] <Jerich> but it's says I don't have startx
[07:14] <gilligan_> Jerich, or actually "apt-get install xfce4"
[07:14] <dougsko> asraniel: google for example setups. at least im pretty sure u can do what you want through this file
[07:14] <HappyFool> Jerich: also install xfce4; i'm not sure how to start X up
[07:14] <Jerich> i did
[07:14] <gilligan_> Jerich, heh? just boot up and choose 'xfce4' in session type menu
[07:14] <budluva> Jerich, if you can't startx you dont have x installed
[07:14] <izm99> dmesg | tail -50 mentions that powernow-k8: fount 1 amd athlon 64 / Operon processor, but sempron 3000+ is 32 bit.  o.O
[07:14] <Jerich> where can i get x installed ?
[07:14] <Jerich> oups how
[07:14] <budluva> x-window-system-core.
[07:14] <TiMiDo> Jerich apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:14] <budluva> err x-window-system-core
[07:15] <Jerich> thx
[07:15] <marcus^> is WPA integrated in the release which comes in 3 days?
[07:15] <VoX> anyone here able to help me with a chroot issue?
[07:15] <Narian-> Live-cd, hi, i have a problem with the live CD of ubuntu 5.10rc, when booting it halts and sais "kernel panic: not syncing, attempt to kill init!", any one know how i can solve this?'
[07:15] <TiMiDo> VoX ask
[07:15] <gilligan_> marcus^, I don't think so, no
[07:15] <marcus^> any nice tutorials on how to do this?
[07:16] <vbgunz> hey is it possible when looking up a command for help, getting extra help for one of the options?
[07:16] <gilligan_> marcus^, google for "wpa" or "wpasuplicant'
[07:16] <gfxstyler> vbgunz: man [yourcommand] 
[07:16] <butcherbird> Narian-, tried to burn a new livecd?
[07:16] <VoX> when i try to run a 32-bit app from 64-bit, i get this error: "(breezy) cho /usr/local/bin/vlc32 | sed 's|^.*/||' <br> bash: cho: command not found"  why is it looking for "cho"?
[07:17] <vbgunz> gfxstyler I mean tar -K --help
[07:17] <bpf> what packages/codecs do I need to install on Breezy to play various multimedia files?
[07:17] <marcus^> gilligan_ sure it isnt wpasuPplicant?
[07:17] <bpf> right now, I'm trying to play a .mov
[07:17] <izm99> vbgunz, "man tar"
[07:17] <gilligan_> marcus^, yes.that oen
[07:17] <gilligan_> one
[07:17] <Narian-> butcherbird nope, though sense i get the same error with the installation cd, i figgured it was my system or some thing
[07:17] <gfxstyler> vbgunz: if you type "man tar" you will get help on all options
[07:17] <macgeek> gfxstyler?
[07:17] <HappyFool> vbgunz: try also 'info tar'
[07:17] <gfxstyler> macgeek: if the md5 sum doesnt match its highly recommended to not use the cd
[07:18] <macgeek> but..darn
[07:18] <vbgunz> ahh, tar --help is like a reference and man tar is a bit more detailed... I really will become friends with man
[07:18] <gfxstyler> macgeek: did you use a download-accelerator/manager for downloading the ubuntu iso ?
[07:18] <vbgunz> HappyFool: thank you!
[07:18] <macgeek> i d/l with bittorrent, gfxstyler
[07:18] <VoX> TiMiDo: any ideas?
[07:18] <FarrisG> I use Evolution at work and Thunderbird at home to connect to the same IMAP account/server. For some reason, whenever I delete or move an email at home, it's still in my mailbox at work undeer Evo no matter how many times I try to resync. Any idea what's going on here?
[07:19] <gfxstyler> macgeek: try to download from a http/ftp mirror, maybe that works :)
[07:19] <TiMiDo> VoX yeah where are you using the cho command?
[07:19] <gfxstyler> macgeek: should be faster, too
[07:19] <macgeek> gfxstyler: that would have taken a little less than 2 days
[07:19] <macgeek> gfxstyler: bittorrent was like 2 hours max
[07:19] <gfxstyler> macgeek: whats your internet connection?
[07:19] <vbgunz> quick question, how can I echo info tar and man tar to a file for print? echo man tar > /tar.man.txt
[07:19] <macgeek> dsl
[07:19] <gfxstyler> macgeek: then you use the wrong mirror
[07:19] <VoX> TiMiDo: im not, that's what is confusing the hell out of me. i dont know what is trying to call it, or why
[07:20] <macgeek> gfxstyler: i downloaded it right off the site, no mirror
[07:20] <HappyFool> vbgunz: you can maybe use troff (groff?) or something for man pages
[07:20] <macgeek> gfxstyler: or rather i tried and gave up
[07:20] <mirak> hi
[07:20] <mirak> where can I find a mirror list to use with apt-spy ?
[07:20] <HappyFool> vbgunz: take a look on www.gnu.org for pdf / ps versions of the info pages; otherwise if you can get the texinfo source you can make your own printable copy
[07:21] <vbgunz>  HappyFool: thank you, I believe I just echoed the file :P hope so...
[07:21] <squid0> can someone please help me with infra-red?
[07:21] <vbgunz> actually no, echo man tar > /tar.man.txt only echoed man tar... :P
[07:21] <PunkieBE> startx doesn't work in ubuntu what's the command?
[07:21] <macgeek> gfxstyler: what mirror should i use?
[07:22] <ssam> PunkieBE what are you trying to do
[07:22] <gfxstyler> macgeek: i dont know, there are some at www.distrowatch.org
[07:22] <PunkieBE> to start my visual interface
[07:22] <PunkieBE> now i'm in console
[07:22] <PunkieBE> i just installed it
[07:22] <macgeek> gfxstyler: the iso seemed fine, the md5 sum on the iso matched the one on the site.
[07:22] <ssam> PunkieBE did you do a server install?
[07:22] <PunkieBE> no
[07:22] <macgeek> gfxstyler: but after burning, the cd md5 sum didnt match the iso md5 sum
[07:22] <PunkieBE> i pressed enter
[07:23] <ssam> PunkieBE, it should come up automatically with a normal install
[07:23] <bpf> repeat: what packages/codecs do I need to install on Breezy to play various multimedia files? right now, I'm trying to play a .mov
[07:23] <budluva> how do i find out what fs a partition is? ie i have an unmounted partition /dev/hdc4 but i cant remember what fs it is
[07:23] <PunkieBE> it's in vpc
[07:23] <PunkieBE> don't know if that makes any difference
[07:23] <ssam> PunkieBE, try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[07:23] <VoX> TiMiDo: its ok, i found it
[07:23] <HappyFool> vbgunz: zcat /usr/share/man/man1/tar.1.gz | groff -man -T ascii > tar.txt
[07:23] <gfxstyler> macgeek: maybe your cdrs are corrupt or your burning application
[07:24] <ssam> PunkieBE, or ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[07:24] <HappyFool> macgeek: mount the CD and check the md5sum that way
[07:24] <macgeek> gfxstyler: thats what i was thinking, but i've tried with 2 different computers and 3 different programs
[07:24] <kbrooks> vbgunz: man tar | col -b > tar.txt
[07:24] <dougsko> bpf: i was never able to get quicktime working on linux, but you can get codecs for pretty much everything else
[07:24] <kbrooks> HappyFool: ^
[07:24] <Kensey> Well, I think I did a dumb thing last night, and now I get GRUB error 22 on boot. :)
[07:24] <vbgunz> HappyFool: that file came out busted :P it look like tyson gave it an uppercut or something...
[07:25] <macgeek> gfxstyler: thats how i checked it. mounted it, then used the unix command 'md5 /Volumes/Ubuntu\ 5.10\ i386
[07:25] <HappyFool> macgeek: the CD should have a file like md5sum.txt in it's root; you can use 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt' to check
[07:25] <kbrooks> vbgunz: try the command i linked you on
[07:25] <gfxstyler> macgeek: damn, thats weird o.O
[07:25] <kbrooks> "man tar | col -b > tar.txt"
[07:25] <sector10> #fedora-legacy
[07:25] <asraniel> what is the best way to tell ALSA to use the second soundcard as the first one?
[07:25] <macgeek> gfxstyler: i know. i'd order the cds, but it takes too long
[07:25] <sector10> sorry
[07:25] <ThePyromaniac> how do i run .deb files again?
[07:25] <FhaeTon> is it possible to install through the livecd boot?
[07:25] <vbgunz> kbrooks: perfect!, thank you both!
[07:25] <kbrooks> ThePyromaniac: you dont
[07:25] <ssam> FhaeTon, no
[07:26] <Kensey> so which Ubuntu ISO has a rescue mode on it?  Install or live?
[07:26] <squid0> ThePyromaniac: you can use dpkg to my knowledge
[07:26] <kbrooks> ThePyromaniac: dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:26] <ssam> FhaeTon, but the dvd version will have live and install on one disk (i think)
[07:26] <vbgunz> so kbrooks thats how I send man pages and info pages to a file?
[07:26] <FhaeTon> ok
[07:26] <vbgunz> kbrooks: in general, I would use that format?
[07:26] <PunkieBE> ssam: doesn't work 'unknown map or file
[07:26] <FhaeTon> I thought it installed
[07:26] <vbgunz> rm tar | col -b > tar.txt
[07:26] <marcus^> give me some reasons to emigrate from WINXP to Ubuntu? (i have to run 2 screens, TV+laptop or LCD screen), webcam on MSN, and i also need to be able to use my iPOD
[07:26] <squid0> can someone please help me with infra red?
[07:26] <kbrooks> vbgunz: no
[07:26] <FhaeTon> I was gonna fall out
[07:26] <kbrooks> man tar
[07:26] <ThePyromaniac> kbrooks thanks
[07:27] <PunkieBE> ssam: i only have 1,2 GB on my virtual drive could that be a problem??
[07:27] <HappyFool> Kensey: the live will be easier for rescuing broken installations; installed ubuntu has a 'rescue mode'
[07:27] <kbrooks> ThePyromaniac: that installs the .deb
[07:27] <gfxstyler> marcus^: you dont need a reason, if you want to use it, use it ... linux is not windows and will never be... if you want to have a free windows, linux is not for you
[07:27] <bpf> thx, dougsko
[07:27] <ssam> PunkieBE, sounds like xorg is not configured right, can anyone remember the command to fix it?
[07:27] <kbrooks> gfxstyler++
[07:27] <ompaul> marcus^, go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want that conversation
[07:27] <DShepherd> Does anyone know how to connect to the internet via dialup using CLI (assume drivers have been installed and working)
[07:27] <HappyFool> ssam: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <marcus^> gfxstyler: so you recommend that i'll use Windows?
[07:27] <vbgunz> kbrooks: thank you so much, that is supernice!
[07:27] <kbrooks> gfxstyler: one point off for the lecture ;)
[07:28] <ssam> PunkieBE, type "df -h" at a command line to see how much disk space you are using
[07:28] <kbrooks> gfxstyler--
[07:28] <Kensey> the installation is fine as far as I know, it was all working before I edited the partition table
[07:28] <dhonn> how do i get freenx for breezy?
[07:28] <ssam> HappyFool, thanks
[07:28] <gfxstyler> marcus^: if you want an OS thats like windows, than why not use it?
[07:28] <kbrooks> marcus^: he is in no way, shape or form endorsing either windows or ubuntu
[07:28] <squid0> marcus^:  i recommend you try a live version of some linux (knoppix or ubuntu), and then maybe setup dual-boot, to see if you really want to go ahead with linux
[07:28] <HappyFool> DShepherd: i think it might be pppconfig
[07:29] <DShepherd> ok
[07:29] <ompaul> gfxstyler, marcus^ that should be dealt with in #ubuntu-offtopic - this place is too busy and it interfers with normal use
[07:29] <ssam> DShepherd, wvdial is also good
[07:29] <PunkieBE> ssam: lol it's full and if i do what happyfool says it says it's damaged or not fully installed
[07:29] <gfxstyler> ompaul: sorry
[07:29] <dougsko> could reconfiguring xserver-xorg possibly help with my refresh rate problems?
[07:29] <ssam> PunkieBE, sounds like the answer
[07:29] <HappyFool> PunkieBE: i don't think 1.2 GB is enough for a normal ubuntu install
[07:29] <ompaul> gfxstyler, not something to be sorry about :) get over there and chat
[07:29] <squid0> HappyFool: no, it isn't
[07:30] <DShepherd> my X is just acting funky and I can't get in. I was upgrading to breezy
[07:30] <kbrooks> gfxstyler: he is in there
[07:30] <ssam> PunkieBE, it is pushing it
[07:30] <kbrooks> get over and chat
[07:30] <HappyFool> dougsko: you can try; also, maybe read the page ubotu's about to send (not sure if it'll help)
[07:30] <PunkieBE> ssam and happyfool: tx guys
[07:30] <HappyFool> !tell dougsko about fixres
[07:30] <ssam> PunkieBE, i am running ubuntu off a 1gb compact flash card, and thats a very minimal install
[07:30] <PunkieBE> it's only in vpc so i'll have a retry with more space :)
[07:30] <vbgunz> I've been on Windows for a little less than 10years and in the last 30 days I am so happy to have come across Ubuntu. At first it is a bit difficult and I'll agree, *but* it is not Windows and I am happy about it... To be honest, i am really loving it and the community is fabulous fantastic!
[07:30] <ssam> PunkieBE, can you spare 2 gb, that might just about work
[07:31] <budluva> if i didnt set a /home partition during install, can i change that now? ie my old 200gb harddisk contained my /home, so now can i just mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc5 /home or will that cause corruption?
[07:31] <PunkieBE> yeah i have space :)
[07:31] <dougsko> HappyFool: thanks
[07:31] <budluva> right now my /home is on the same partition as /
[07:31] <sri> hey how do you run an application under breezy?  there used to be a Application->Run.. selectoin but it's disappeared.
[07:31] <ThePyromaniac> guys "gnomeboyadvance: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[07:31] <ThePyromaniac> "
[07:31] <vbgunz> sri: Alt+F2?
[07:31] <sri> no other way?
[07:32] <dhonn> sri: Terminal
[07:32] <vbgunz> sri: thats the quickest way imaginable
[07:32] <elvirolo> hi all
[07:32] <sri> bleah
[07:32] <squid0> has anyone got any helpful suggestions about using irda (infrared) in ubuntu? please
[07:32] <dhonn> sri: right click the panel and add the Run Application applet
[07:32] <HappyFool> budluva: it might be a good idea to copy over your home directory to the other partition first (i mean /home/budluva, not necessarily the whole of /home)
[07:32] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: try installing python2.3
[07:32] <sri> ah okay.
[07:32] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: 'sudo apt-get install python2.3'
[07:32] <sri> that works for me.
[07:32] <sri> thanks
[07:33] <dhonn> np
[07:33] <elvirolo> will the release of breezy be delayed or not ?
[07:33] <MrGardenHoseMan> are there any other ftp clients besides gfpt?
[07:33] <HappyFool> elvirolo: by?
[07:33] <BackSLaSh> Guys, sry i have a problem with my laptop's touchpad: while without synaptics driver it "works", even if too sensible, if i install the xorg-driver-synaptics(both ubuntu package or compiled from sources) and restart x it just tops working, any idea?
[07:33] <ThePyromaniac> thanks
[07:33] <Answer> elvirolo: breezy release scheduled for october 13th rain or shine
[07:33] <sri> a lot of corporate flunkies tend to use it to run various scripts or what not.
[07:33] <elvirolo> HappyFool, by the very serious bugs it suffers
[07:33] <Answer> BackSlash: so don't install it?
[07:34] <asraniel> what is the best way to tell ALSA to use the second soundcard as the first one?
[07:34] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool says "Version of python on system is 2.4.2-0ubuntu2." when iretry the deb file
[07:34] <HappyFool> elvirolo: i suspect this is not the forum for such a discussion. many people seem to be successfully using the release candidate
[07:35] <BackSLaSh> Answer, -.- well it's not wroking as intended
[07:35] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: have you installed the python2.3 package? If you have and it still doesn't work, I guess that deb is not ubuntu-compatible
[07:36] <ssam> BackSLaSh, maybe you need to reconfigure x after installing the driver
[07:36] <aclonedsheep> Hey, how do I partition my HDD from the live cd?
[07:36] <elvirolo> HappyFool, well : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16066 http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14566 http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15809
[07:36] <aclonedsheep> i mounted it
[07:36] <gfxstyler> aclonedsheep: gparted (gui), parted (console), fdisk (when available)
[07:36] <elvirolo> I consider these as critical bugs
[07:36] <gfxstyler> aclonedsheep: you have to unmount it before
[07:36] <aclonedsheep> oh , heh
[07:36] <aclonedsheep> I tried to do it through the installation but it froze
[07:37] <bur[n] er> has anyone used "xfce4-taskmanager" ??
[07:37] <squid0> infrared help, anyone?
[07:37] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool i have 2.4 apparently and it need 2.4
[07:37] <Winet> Has anybody used a Wi-Fi card baesd on Texas Instruments chipset? Ubuntu found my card, and when I set up a WEP 128 key - system failed to join the net, but when I WEP key is off -every thing is ok (WEP key 100% correct)
[07:37] <Winet> _based
[07:38] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: you need 2.3, from what you said earlier
[07:38] <ThePyromaniac> 2.3 didnt help :(
[07:38] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: then my guess is that .deb is not ubuntu-compatible
[07:38] <ThePyromaniac> i can never build from source, i always get many errors. i want visualboyadvance to work! :'(
[07:39] <ThePyromaniac> heh, but thanks
[07:39] <butcherbird> ThePyromaniac, apt-get build-essential?
[07:39] <bur[n] er> Winet: just use MAC address filtering?  or no WEP at all would seem like the easy solution?
[07:39] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance' ?
[07:39] <atripathi> Pyro........try using Synaptic.
[07:39] <ThePyromaniac> yes i have build-essentials, and im tryign the GUI for vba
[07:39] <atripathi> add more repositories
[07:40] <ThePyromaniac> from here: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1650&release_id=3263
[07:40] <ThePyromaniac> i tried one called VBA-Frontend but found this GnomeBoyAdvanced which looks better
[07:40] <HappyFool> for python apps you'll possibly also need python2.3-dev (or python2.4-dev)
[07:41] <ThePyromaniac> aha thanks
[07:42] <Winet> bur[n] er: MAC filtering is an idea, thanx but I still wanted to know - what is wrong with it. (the same thing i have usin ndiswrapper) Only DriverLoader is working with my card correctly, but it is not free
[07:42] <aclonedsheep> gpart isnt working, i click 'apply' and it goes like it is working, but then goes back to the status window and the partition isnt resized
[07:42] <Sarkie> hi
[07:43] <kbrooks> Everyone:
[07:43] <kbrooks> idea:
[07:43] <gfxstyler> hi
[07:44] <kbrooks> make the menu more friendly to new users
[07:44] <ThePyromaniac> uck this swine wont install, installed python2.3, 2.3dev, 2.4 AND 2.4dev
[07:44] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i have a pdf file and the page size is way bigger than the contents. can i crop each page accordingly?
[07:46] <rob_p> Winet:  What chipset is your card?
[07:46] <Winet> rob_p: one sec.
[07:46] <Winet> rob_p: ACX111
[07:47] <aclonedsheep> Atheros Super G
[07:48] <rob_p> Winet:  Then this page will almost surely answer your questions:  http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php
[07:48] <Kensey> Can I have a partition table with partitions out of order?
[07:49] <Kensey> my old partition layout is hda1 with Windows, then hda2 which is extended, inside of which is hda5 which is Ubuntu.
[07:49] <HappyFool> hda1 through hda4 are used for 'primary' partitions; the logical partitions start at hda5
[07:49] <Kensey> I shrunk the Windows partition and now I want to make a new Linux partition in the free space.  Can I have hda3 located physically before hda2?
[07:50] <HappyFool> oh
[07:50] <HappyFool> Kensey: sorry, not a clue
[07:50] <aclonedsheep> why would gpart not be able to resize my windows partition?
[07:50] <squid0> aclonedsheep: i had the same problem with qtparted
[07:51] <squid0> are you trying to resize an ntfs partition?
[07:51] <aclonedsheep> yeh
[07:51] <squid0> argh.
[07:51] <Winet> rob_p: Thank you very much!
[07:51] <butcherbird> ThePyromaniac, i compiled it for you but now i dont think ill let you have it ;p
[07:51] <squid0> i mean, ah. ;)
[07:51] <rob_p> Winet:  The driver you are using doesn't support WEP if its the driver that came with Hoary.  You will need to build one that does.
[07:51] <sexcopter8000m> is there a programme out there to edit pdf files?
[07:51] <rob_p> Winet:  No prob.  Good luck!
[07:51] <vbgunz> sexcopter8000m: open office can create them...
[07:51] <Winet> thnx
[07:51] <MrGardenHoseMan> does the default command line ftp have ssl?
[07:52] <aclonedsheep> squid, did you fix the problem?
[07:52] <squid0> aclonedsheep: i hear PartitionMagic is a good program that manages ntfs partitions, but it's commercial
[07:52] <squid0> no :(
[07:52] <vbgunz> rob_p: whats up, long time no see, how is your EFS working out?
[07:52] <budluva> any suggestions on a good ftp daemon?
[07:52] <sexcopter8000m> vbgunz: ok, but i want to crop an existing pdf file
[07:52] <squid0> aclonedsheep: it's very frustrating
[07:52] <squid0> aclonedsheep: have you tried qtparted?
[07:52] <aclonedsheep> no, just gpart
[07:52] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Working 100%!  I'm so glad I set it up!
[07:53] <aclonedsheep> im unfamiliar w/ qtparted
[07:53] <rob_p> vbgunz:  You?
[07:53] <squid0> it's fairly intuitive
[07:53] <vbgunz> sexcopter8000m: I am not sure if the Open Office write app can freely edit a PDF, I just know it can create them... Mayb copy and paste?
[07:53] <Answer> OK Tough question:  I have a dual boot Ubuntu/WinXP laptop, and I want to setup Thunderbird so that it is the same in both operating systems :)
[07:53] <vbgunz> rob_p: 0% :P
[07:53] <jbroome> Answer: unless you're using imap, it's going to be kinda difficult
[07:53] <aclonedsheep> whree is qtparted
[07:53] <squid0> aclonedsheep: mind you get the latest version. Tho even with that i can't promise anything
[07:53] <squid0> it comes on knoppix
[07:53] <kbrooks> housetier: :P
[07:54] <Answer> jbroome: Cant I just put it in a fat32 partition or something cool like that?
[07:54] <kbrooks> housetier: ubuntu user eh
[07:54] <aclonedsheep> whats knoppix, heh
[07:54] <vbgunz> rob_p: I never got to it, I wanted to *but* lost your link in the flood of new Linux links + have been thinking more and more of reformatting, etc...
[07:54] <squid0> aclonedsheep: you don't know?
[07:54] <vbgunz> rob_p: brb
[07:54] <housetier> kbrooks yes ubuntu + debian experimental&worse
[07:55] <aclonedsheep> i do know
[07:55] <squid0> good
[07:55] <Answer> aclonedsheep:  #knoppix
[07:55] <ecki> Nabend
[07:56] <gfxstyler> nabend
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> holy shit ubuntu's popularity must have gone up a lot
[07:56] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I've since, created an encrypted loopback fs which gets mounted on bootup.  I then have ~/.mozilla as a symbolic link to that encrypted fs.  Firefox knows no difference but now, all data written to/read from the mozilla directory gets encrypted/decrypted on the fly!
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> it's gone from 600k/s downloads off the pipe to 189k/s
[07:56] <squid0> bluefoxicy: mind your language, please
[07:56] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know a good irc client made for leeching of fservers, like sysreset for example?
[07:57] <ssam> Belutz, are you interested in fiting ubuntu on a small disk?
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> squid0:  OK but I only know English
[07:57] <kbrooks> I have a idea which some of you may want. a ndiswrapper gui
[07:57] <Kensey> well, I rewrote the partition table to its old offsets and it boots.  now to see if it'll mount what I want :)
[07:57] <Kensey> kbrooks: I think it's been done
[07:57] <ThePyromaniac> butcherbird you did?! :D
[07:58] <kbrooks> Kensey: ?
[07:58] <ThePyromaniac> butcherbird um, can you email it to me?
[07:58] <Belutz> ssam, yes
[07:58] <ssam> \msg Belutz hello
[07:58] <mypapit> wtf?
[07:58] <Kensey> knoppix-ndiswrapper or something like that
[07:58] <butcherbird> ThePyromaniac, hmmm  you have a paypal account?
[07:58] <ssam> Belutz, i dont get irc :-)
[07:59] <ThePyromaniac> you want me to pay you for compiling it?
[07:59] <Belutz> :-)
[07:59] <ssam> Belutz, i have just been getting ubuntu on a 1gb compact flash
[07:59] <ssam> Belutz, it depends how much you need
[07:59] <Belutz> ssam, could we discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic please? :-)
[08:01] <Answer> !ndiswrapper
[08:01] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:01] <bluefoxicy> hey
[08:01] <bluefoxicy> we got a package called kdar
[08:01] <bluefoxicy> now all we need is gdar
[08:02] <Answer> just use kdar in gnome
[08:02] <bluefoxicy> no way
[08:03] <samu2> Umm, are there any dvi viewers installed by default?
[08:03] <samu2> Think I found one.
[08:03] <Subliminal> could somebody help me, ubuntu thinks my mouse buttons (middle button) is being pressed when it isnt
[08:04] <atripathi> free CD's for me have been sent to shipping company on 2nd Oct. will I miss the final release of breezy ?
[08:04] <Answer> atripathi: the 'final' release of breezy will be 6 months from oct 13th...
[08:05] <Subliminal> i've tried recreating my xorg.conf file, even telling it to not emmulate 3 buttons and it still happens
[08:05] <EasterSunshine> whoa! some guy named Answer has provided an answer!
[08:05] <atripathi> ? so what is bager ? is it some sort of beta ?
[08:05] <Answer> Subliminal: have you tried the mouse on another system?  maybe the middle mouse button really is being pressed, i.e. the mouse is broke
[08:05] <Subliminal> Answer: it works fine on windows
[08:05] <bluefoxicy> oh god this is priceless
[08:05] <bluefoxicy> http://m.2mdn.net/876092/Hell_300x250.gif
[08:06] <Answer> atripathi:  the breezy badger that you can get now is technically a beta version, it will be officially released on october 13th
[08:06] <Syrra> Hello
[08:06] <EasterSunshine> Answer: can i place orders for pressed cds yet?
[08:06] <gfxstyler> Answer: its 3 more days until release, you could call it a FINAL already
[08:06] <blekos> 3 days left!!!
[08:06] <TiMiDo> yay
[08:06] <blekos> hello pple
[08:07] <blekos> :)
[08:07] <atripathi> i hope I get the latest ones
[08:07] <blekos> i have a little problem with an update
[08:07] <Syrra> Hello,  I have a question about GAIM in Ubuntu
[08:07] <blekos> i get   a post-update message
[08:07] <Dis-Abled> I am looking for docs on super secure ubuntu server setup - breezy - Zope - Zep - Plone and mail
[08:08] <gnomefreak> syrra: what problem?
[08:08] <blekos> requiring  user ineteraction
[08:08] <Dis-Abled> opp, Zeo Zope Plone2.1-1
[08:08] <blekos> i have turned-off/on the computer several times but the msg still appears any ideas?
[08:08] <Syrra> its not really a problem, I was just wondering if I can make the taskbar thing flash when I get a new message like it does in windows. I keep missing people talking to me. : /
[08:08] <vbgunz> rob_p: dude, you have your whole drive encrypted?
[08:09] <Answer> EasterSunshine:  I'm not sure when you have to order to get the new version, however you can upgrade from whatever version you have...  or just burn cds yourself...
[08:09] <vbgunz> or just a loopback devive or something?
[08:09] <Answer> Syrra:  see gaim-guifications
[08:09] <rob_p> vbgunz:  No.  I have a secondary hard disk that is totally encrypted.  I then also have my .mozilla directory encrypted.
[08:09] <Syrra> Answer: Eh?
[08:10] <Answer> Syrra:  to make gaim blink you need to get  "gaim-guifications"
[08:10] <gnomefreak> syrra: the only thing i know that you can do like that would raise the im window on screen when activity is there
[08:10] <Answer> gnomefreak: he needs gaim-guifications
[08:10] <FhaeTon> ok is it possible to copy the Livecd setup and use it for an installation?
[08:10] <Syrra> oh, where can I find that? Thanks btw. And I'm a she
[08:10] <rob_p> vbgunz:  The encrypted disk used dm-crypt while the encrypted loopback fs on the primary drive uses losetup.
[08:10] <vbgunz> hmm.. you sent me the wiki page on encryption or did you use another guide? You sent me a link *but* I've been harvesting them and have to go through them soon :P
[08:10] <gnomefreak> answer: i tried that and it didnt work right
[08:10] <Answer> Syrra: in Synaptic you could search for gaim...  or the package is called gaim-guifications
[08:10] <gnomefreak> syrra: synaptic
[08:11] <rob_p> vbgunz:  hold on a sec... let me dig it up again...
[08:11] <squid0> repeat: can anyone please help me with irda on a notebook?
[08:11] <vbgunz> man I hate to use the word starving...
[08:11] <Syrra> danke, I'll get it when I bother my boyfriend into making it so I can do stuff. We just reinstalled and haven't configured much of anything yet. Anyway, thanks guys. :)
[08:12] <butcherbird> ThePyromaniac, boss is breathing down my neck cant bring vmware up right now... Here is what I did:
[08:12] <Answer> Syrra, gnomefreak: in gaim, Tools-> Preferences -> Plugins ->  Guifications
[08:12] <Dis-Abled> Anyone know if thier is an ubuntu-server channel?
[08:12] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Here's the one that I used to setup the secondary hard disk as an encrypted filesystem:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[08:13] <FhaeTon> Can't a save a boot floppy of the LiveCD setup and then do an install with the setting from the floppy?
[08:13] <Answer> Syrra, gnomefreak:  also  gaim, tools->preferences->plugins -> message notifications
[08:13] <gnomefreak> answer: thank you im looking now
[08:13] <Syrra> Thank you Answer
[08:13] <butcherbird> ThePyromaniac, apt-get install python2.4-dev then... tar xvzf gnomeboyadvance-0.4.tar.gz then.. python setup.py install
[08:13] <bur[n] er> anyone knwo if there's an eyedropper that works to fidn the color of anything on your screen?
[08:13] <nalioth> Dis-Abled: you are in it
[08:14] <butcherbird> ThePyromaniac, in hoary
[08:14] <rob_p> vbgunz:  ...I also got some information from: http://www.kiskeyix.org/index.php?submit=post&story_id=1151&parent_id=0
[08:14] <Syrra> Doesn't Badger come with Gmud as part of the iso?
[08:14] <Dis-Abled> nalioth: thank you
[08:14] <vbgunz> rob_p: i was just looking at that a second ago... You don't have any juicy whole disk encryption links? I am thinking about redoing the entire disk and making Ubuntu fulltime and omniscient...
[08:15] <Answer> vbgunz:  google  Reiserfs Encryption...
[08:15] <j-linux> I just broke synaptic :S
[08:15] <BockBilbo> hello
[08:15] <rob_p> vbgunz:  All the info is in there.  You should be able to accomplish it with those 2 links.
[08:15] <TiMiDo> BockBilbo hello
[08:15] <Syrra> congratulations j-linux!
[08:15] <Syrra> ;)
[08:15] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:15] <BockBilbo> :) TiMiDo ;)
[08:16] <gfxstyler> thats the way
[08:16] <Dis-Abled> :()
[08:16] <j-linux> Syrra: thank you...
[08:16] <Dis-Abled> now you'll just have to use apt-get
[08:16] <jpfarias> people!
[08:16] <j-linux> I installed something last night called anon-proxy with synaptic.  I recall that it asked me to automatically set something to 4001 -- that is the port for the proxy?
[08:16] <jpfarias> how do I run IE with wine?
[08:16] <Kensey> yes jpfarias?
[08:16] <Kensey> oh lord, you don't ask for much :P
[08:16] <j-linux> Now Synaptic is trying 4001 and won't work.
[08:16] <gfxstyler> jpfarias: why would you want to run IE ? *g*
[08:16] <Answer> jpfarias: are you kidding... don't run ie
[08:16] <nalioth> jpfarias: wine /path/to/iexplore.exe
[08:16] <Syrra> jpfarias, why do you want to run IE?
[08:16] <jpfarias> gfxstyler, debug css for a website
[08:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: yup, I hope so, I owe you one dude! I remember we spoke about it... In the next few days i am redoing my entire HDD. I am currently downloading Breezy daily through Bittorrent... I hope i am able to create a whole encrypted disk... Thank you again bro!
[08:17] <TG__> can i format partitions in partitionmagic before i install ubuntu?
[08:17] <gfxstyler> jpfarias: is firefox not able to do that?
[08:17] <Jeromee> syrra: didn't you know, ie is the shizzle?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> jpfarias: im with answer and syrra on the ie thing
[08:17] <zenrox> can any one help me with any of these breezy prob i am having ---> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73955
[08:17] <Kensey> you can format them in anything you want, but there's no reason to really
[08:17] <nalioth> TG__: yes
[08:17] <squid0> vbgunz, check out linuxjournal.com; they've run some interesting articles on filesystem encryption the past few weeks
[08:17] <jpfarias> gfxstyler, well, some css stuff behave different on IE and Firefox
[08:17] <Answer> jpfarias: use the w3.org css validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
[08:17] <vbgunz> Answer: Thank you, Reiserfs Encryption is right out of the box *because* this is what I am hoping for... Is it possible from the installer before ever logging into Ubuntu?
[08:17] <Kensey> the install process has an option to format the partition
[08:17] <j-linux> These are my error messages from Synaptic: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2976
[08:18] <gnomefreak> jpfarias: firefox can pull up IE pages if you want it to
[08:18] <nalioth> jpfarias: thats b/c IE is nonstandard
[08:18] <Syrra> oh, one more thing, how do I run telnet?
[08:18] <Kensey> I know a guy who ran with an encrypted swap.  Because he could, apparently.
[08:18] <Answer> vbgunz: You can choose reiserfs as the filesystem during install, then you will probably have ot turn on encryption for the entire drive afterwards
[08:18] <jpfarias> nalioth, I know
[08:18] <Dis-Abled> Zeo install check Plone2.1 Zope Secure Breezy (1)
[08:18] <j-linux> I think this has something to do with an HTTP_Proxy but I'm not sure...
[08:18] <Answer> Syrra:  in a terminal, type 'telnet'  or 'ssh'
[08:18] <jpfarias> but most users of my web app will use IE
[08:18] <nalioth> j-linux: you got trouble, mister. heh
[08:19] <vbgunz> squid0: thank you bro, I am just taking in as much as I can because although I found some really good stuff and rob_p put me onto most of it, i am still looking for a Whole Disk Encryption" method that would not exactly be easy but not exactly be terrifying :P
[08:19] <TG__> naloith: so i make a linux partition (10 gig, ext3) and a swap partition (500mb, swap), and i can use these partitions in the ubuntu installer, right?
[08:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell j-linux about sources
[08:19] <satafterh> I have a problem, chanel says someone eles has my identity and I have to identify every time i try to log on to this channel, how can i fix this
[08:19] <nalioth> TG__: yup
[08:19] <Syrra> alrighty, I figured it was about the same on command line but I wasn't sure. Thanks again Answer, you're well named.
[08:19] <nalioth> TG__: actually, you can just make a 10.5gb free space and it'd be easier
[08:19] <vbgunz> Answer, I'll google Reiserfs Encryption now...
[08:19] <squid0> vbgunz: sure. well, check out linuxmaganize. might help you
[08:19] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Also, if you are interested, I wrote a perl script that validates against your username and password in /etc/shadow that handles local access to the encrypted directory.  It basically prompts you for your password before allowing local access to it.  It's a simple GUI pop-up box that handles it.  Anyway, I had to do this since the encrypted drive is unlocked upon booting.  I wanted a way to keep unauthorized folks o
[08:19] <rob_p> ut after bootup.
[08:19] <Kensey> being asked to ident every time you connect to freenode.net is normal behavior
[08:20] <j-linux> nalioth: I know how to add sources, but it won't let me.  It happened because I installed something called anon-proxy with Synaptic and it automatically did something and set a proxy on 4001 or something.  I can't remember.  I didn't think it would destroy synaptic :S
[08:20] <Answer> vbgunz: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1387/
[08:20] <TG__> nalioth: a 10.5 gb ntfs partition?
[08:20] <Answer> j-linux:  apt-get remove --purge anon-proxy
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <vbgunz> rob_p, one sec, I need to talk with you...
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <squid0> vbgunz: this might be interesting: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8599
[08:20] <gnomefreak> j-linux: can you go back in synaptic and uninstall it?
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <nalioth> j-linux: remover the proxy thing
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <j-linux> Answer:  I already removed anon-proxy, but it already is set to 4001.
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <rob_p> vbgunz:  If you want the script, let me know.
[08:20] <vbgunz> Answer, thank you, I am looking at it...
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <HappyFool> heh
[08:20] <j-linux> nalioth: didn't work
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:20] <HappyFool> man, that guy is bad at spamming
[08:21] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:21] <Answer> j-linux: remove with the --purge option and reboot.
[08:21] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:21] <moyogo> interwiki: http://
[08:21] <Answer> moyogo: last warning to stfu
[08:21] <TiMiDo> lamer
[08:21] <Kensey> too late :)
[08:21] <squid0> lol
[08:21] <j-linux> Answer: ok, I wll try.  thanks
[08:21] <Dis-Abled> :)
[08:21] <Kensey> that's like the e-mail spammers I see that have broken URLs in their own spam
[08:22] <pussfeller> my upgrade is burping on xkeyboard-config
[08:22] <Syrra> ew, the terminal has a white background, can I change that? Oh.. heh, and how do I make ubuntu not brown?
[08:22] <gfxstyler> Syrra: sure
[08:22] <Answer> Syrra: Edit Current Profile, change the colours.
[08:22] <gfxstyler> Syrra: System/Settings/Themes
[08:22] <j-linux> Answer: since I already inunstalled it, it won't let me uninstall anything.
[08:22] <moyogo> sorry about that
[08:22] <gnomefreak> answer: btw i installed like 41 things for emacs and half of them wouldnt install kept spitting errors out
[08:23] <HappyFool> hrm
[08:23] <vbgunz> I am reading these articles...
[08:23] <Kensey> Syrra: for the first, you want to edit the menu item, for the second, try a different theme
[08:23] <HappyFool> thunderstorm, *sigh*
[08:23] <j-linux> Syrra: options on the mneu bar
[08:23] <j-linux> menu
[08:23] <Answer> gnomefreak: did emacs-speak work?  I had to do dpkg --configure -a   to finish the install
[08:23] <squid0> vbgunz: disclaimer: i haven't tried it myself
[08:23] <Syrra> Thanks again
[08:23] <gnomefreak> answer i think that was one that didnt install but id have to go through synaptic and see
[08:23] <satafterh> whats a spambots?
[08:24] <Kensey> I have to say I was initially skeptical of the Ubuntu hype, but it really is quite nifty
[08:24] <Answer> gnomefreak:  yeah mine did not finish, from the command line I had to do  "dpkg --configure -a" and then it finished up
[08:24] <Answer> Kensey: don't... don't don't don't believe the hype
[08:24] <Answer> fight the power!
[08:24] <gnomefreak> answer: it told me to do "apt-get install 10 emacs-extra/select makes doesnt exsist
[08:24] <pussfeller> a program that joins channel after channel and posts links in private msgs to people
[08:24] <vbgunz> squid0: since I will be starting from scratch (saving home) and doing a new install which will take Ubuntu from it's current 7 1/2 GB parition to a possible 80GB HDD or 70GB and 10 for XP, I can make a mistake or two :)
[08:25] <Skid> w 25
[08:25] <Skid> man :\
[08:25] <Answer> vbgunz: This article explains step by step how to test different filesystems without all that work: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1387/
[08:26] <gnomefreak> answer its throwing errors out again little fast but i saw a speed bar error
[08:26] <gnomefreak> nevermind its fixing it i think
[08:26] <Answer> gnomefreak: the only package you really need is emacspeak, and dependencies.  "speech output interface to Emacs"
[08:27] <vbgunz> yeah, I am seeing that now Answer... the only part I haven;t got to and haven't seen yet is *how to* encrypt an *entire* disk... If I can encrypt the entire disk with Linux, I will run XP through vmware or something Vs dual booting...
[08:27] <squid0> vbgunz: fair enoug
[08:27] <Answer> vbgunz: so you see how to encrypt part of a disk?  just do that for /
[08:28] <gnomefreak> answer: it gave me "errors were encountered while processing: emacs21" im assuming i need that since im thinking its the base
[08:28] <vbgunz> Answer: ahh, this is one of the reasons why I wish to start from scratch... I don't mind messing up when it's done from scratch ;)
[08:28] <Answer> vbgunz: just do it
[08:28] <Answer> gnomefreak:  yes emacs21 is the base emacs package...
[08:29] <j-linux> This is the result of a grep: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2977  These are my original error messages: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2976
[08:29] <Slaj_R> question:  I tried configuring my Broadcom wireless card using the info. at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683.  The card still isn't working.
[08:29] <LasseL> !ati
[08:29] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[08:29] <vbgunz> I'll try to document my steps, hopefully I can get it clear cause I usually have the knack of redoing a system even after it came out good... Just my thing, I guess, let me read the rest of these articles, will tell you in a sec my P.O.A.
[08:30] <Slaj_R> any troubleshooting suggestions?
[08:30] <kikinovak> Hi. I use two different keyboard layouts (swiss and french). No way to switch layouts in GNOME. Tried everything. Any ideas?
[08:30] <j-linux> I'll try to reboot... BRB
[08:31] <squid0> Slaj_R: folks are a bit slow on troubleshooting today ;) i'm still waiting for a response
[08:31] <kikinovak> squid0: what's your pb?
[08:31] <Slaj_R> ah.  I'll take my chances for a few minutes :)
[08:31] <gnomefreak> answer: does it matter what speech server package that are listed that i pick?
[08:31] <kikinovak> squid0: just joined...
[08:32] <squid0> kikinovak: i can't find how to activate/use irda on my hp omnibook laptop. and thanks for responding!
[08:32] <squid0> Slaj_R: good luck ;)
[08:32] <LasseL> kikinovak, try rightclick the panel (next to the watch) select add to panel and add a keyboard indicator
[08:33] <squid0> kikinovak: you can also use/define a keyboard shortcut to switch between the layouts. default is ALT + ALT
[08:33] <mirak> if the bootloader manage to load the kernel he should be able to load the initrd as well ?
[08:34] <SuseUX> gnome are working on a great new icon theme :-)
[08:34] <squid0> SuseUX: that sounds great
[08:34] <SuseUX> looks really nice
[08:35] <squid0> SuseUX: link?
[08:35] <SuseUX> http://tango-project.org/Tango_Icon_Gallery
[08:35] <LasseL> am I the only one that get "freezes" in breezy with the ati fglrx drivers?
[08:35] <mirak> how to get the exact sources of a kernel image, with ubuntu patches and such ?
[08:35] <MHaggag> Hello everyone. I have a couple small problems with Ubuntu64 5.04, and was wondering if you guys could help :)
[08:35] <mirak> LasseL: yes
[08:35] <LasseL> hehe
[08:36] <MHaggag> 1. Whenever I boot my system, it queries the router for the DNS servers, effectively overwriting the manual DNS IPs I enter through the network admin. I tried adding the IPs directoy to /etc/resolv.conf, but it's still overwritten on boot
[08:36] <Cryptid> Hey is there a Software that Converts .Mp3 files to .Wav files ?????
[08:36] <MHaggag> directory -> directly*
[08:36] <LasseL> mirak, these 3 don't count then: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69556 ? :p
[08:36] <kbrooks> just sent out a e-mail to ubuntu-users / ubuntu-devel
[08:36] <MHaggag> 2. How do I tell Ubuntu that my monitor supports a refresh rate of 85 HZ at 1024x768?
[08:36] <SuseUX> Squid0, looking nice hey!
[08:37] <mirak> LasseL: I use a radeon 9600 pro
[08:37] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how to find where visualboyadvance is installed, and then how to configure gnomebodyadvance to know where it is?
[08:37] <kbrooks> MHaggag: system > prefs > screen resoloution
[08:37] <squid0> SuseUX: looks great
[08:37] <mirak> MHaggag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:37] <LasseL> mirak, it seems it is mostly an issue with older cards
[08:37] <kbrooks> mirak: no
[08:37] <Slaj_R> Cryptid: sox
[08:37] <kbrooks> mirak: gui is bettwer
[08:37] <mirak> LasseL: like what cards ?
[08:37] <mirak> kbrooks: if the resolutions aren't listed in the gui there is no way he will get them
[08:38] <LasseL> 8500, 8800, 9100
[08:38] <j-linux> Answer: it worked.  I just had to reboot (the anon-proxy thing)
[08:38] <shyru> hi!!!
[08:38] <mirak> LasseL: I had a 8500 and it worked
[08:38] <shyru> sombebody help me??
[08:38] <TiMiDo> shyru hello
[08:38] <TiMiDo> ask shyru
[08:38] <SuseUX> Squid0, perfect for gnome, it's how gnome should be
[08:38] <shyru> TiMiDo, hi!
[08:38] <LasseL> mirak, in breezy
[08:38] <mirak> LasseL: I don't remember if I switched to breezy before buying an nvidia
[08:38] <squid0> SuseUX: from what i see, i agree
[08:38] <kbrooks> ew
[08:38] <Cryptid> Slaj_R, i actually need this software to convert .mp3 files to .wav files so that i cn use it as True Tones for my Phone
[08:38] <shyru> TiMiDo, im newbie for ubuntu, well  i have ubuntu 5.04 and i need to upgrate for 5.10
[08:38] <LasseL> mirak, my 8500 worked fine in hoary
[08:38] <shyru> any idea?
[08:38] <kbrooks> this 60 hz is a strain on my eyes
[08:39] <rob_p> MHaggag:  For you first question, the dhclient script overwrites your /etc/resolv.conf file with DNS info obtained from the DHCP server.  The easiest way to use your own DNS entry is to put, "prepend domain-name-servers ip.of.your.dns;" in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file.
[08:39] <SuseUX> there's some nice videos and a downloadable set
[08:39] <mirak> LasseL: me too
[08:39] <Slaj_R> Cryptid:  That's a big format for a phone!
[08:39] <TiMiDo> shyru changed it to breezy
[08:39] <mirak> MHaggag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:39] <flagfranca> hello all
[08:39] <squid0> kbrooks: :p
[08:39] <shyru> TiMiDo, howto?
[08:39] <Slaj_R> Cryptid:  I think sox should do it.
[08:39] <Slaj_R> Cryptid:  But I haven't looked for anything else in a couple of years.
[08:39] <MHaggag> Thanks kbrooks, mirak and rob_p!
[08:39] <TiMiDo> shyru nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <shyru> oki
[08:39] <rob_p> MHaggag:  no prob!  Good luck.
[08:39] <MHaggag> However, on the refresh rate issue: The screen resolution dialog only shows "60" HZ for 1024x768
[08:39] <kbrooks> whoa
[08:39] <j-linux> Has anyone else used XFCE with Ubuntu -- I like it better than Gnome
[08:39] <shyru> ando chance the name?
[08:40] <TiMiDo> yeah changed the name
[08:40] <kbrooks> MHaggag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:40] <MHaggag> kbrooks: Oh, sorry *blush*
[08:40] <shyru> TiMiDo, great!!!! thanks!!!
[08:40] <shyru> :D
[08:40] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[08:40] <TiMiDo> shyru look at this first https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:40] <MHaggag> kbroos: I saw that earlier, but somehow forgot it when I saw the "Screen resolution dialog" suggestion :)
[08:40] <MHaggag> Will try it out now. Thanks all!
[08:41] <shyru> TiMiDo, oki
[08:41] <shyru> :D
[08:41] <flagfranca> hello people
[08:41] <squid0> MHaggag: i had that issue too on my other machine. have you resolved it?
[08:41] <apollo2011> the problem I am having with xmms is due to the iTouch plugin.  Everytime I enable the plugin, xmms crashes and closes itself.  The plugin worked fine before I upgraded to Breezy.  Any ideas on whats causing this problem>
[08:41] <TiMiDo> apollo2011 try running xmms with the terminal and look at the issue maybe it can be a bug
[08:41] <flagfranca> is there any other movie player for ubuntu rather than totem? Im experiencing playback problems here and theres no option to install codecs
[08:42] <sector10> nalioth: should the proxy server check box be deselected in Xchat?
[08:42] <squid0> flagfranca: install codecs via synaptic
[08:42] <TiMiDo> flagfranca mplayer
[08:42] <dougsko> flagfranca: i like kaffeine
[08:42] <vbgunz> I need rest... I am shot tired... too much crypto today...
[08:42] <dougsko> or xine
[08:42] <nalioth> sector10: if you dont have a proxy server, you dont need the box checked
[08:42] <gfxstyler> flagfranca: do a synaptic search on xvid and install it ... and then take a look at wxvlc, the best multimedia player so far
[08:42] <squid0> vbgunz: bye
[08:42] <j-linux> Adobe Acrobat problem:  Following ubuntuguide.org instructions didn't work.  Can't find mozilla-acroread.  Any suggestions?
[08:42] <sector10> nalioth: they are all checked by default
[08:42] <apollo2011> TiMiDo: well I did run it, and it comes back with a vague error about GDK.  I had a Hoary installation I upgraded on my Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop, and the plugin works fine on it.
[08:42] <TiMiDo> j-linux xpdf ;P
[08:42] <dougsko> yeah vlc is sweet
[08:42] <shyru> TiMiDo, im try to enter this site but the key for https does not rulz
[08:42] <nalioth> j-linux: dont use ubuntuguide
[08:42] <j-linux> TiMiDo: not as many features
[08:42] <vbgunz> Fellas, thank you for everything! rob_p, squid, Answer thank you all so much, I have enough info to wake up busy ;) Later fellas!
[08:43] <j-linux> nalioth: is it wrong?
[08:43] <kemik> j-linux:  isit necessary to use acrobat? you got plenty of other options (xpdf etc etc)
[08:43] <kemik> !ubuntuguide
[08:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:43] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Good luck with it.  Keep us posted!
[08:43] <nalioth> j-linux: how long have you used linux?
[08:43] <j-linux> nalioth: 9 months maybe
[08:43] <squid0> vbgunz: good rest! enjoy, and hope to see what you come up with
[08:43] <kemik> gnite vbgunz
[08:43] <sector10> nalioth: all the networks in Xchat have proxy server checked by default, so thats the problem
[08:43] <Cryptid> How do i convert a .mp3 files to .wav using Sox (step by step process)
[08:43] <MHaggag> squid0: Which issue? The DNS one, or the refresh rate one?
[08:43] <HappyFool> j-linux: try installing acroread and acroread-plugin (though I think there's a bug with the former)
[08:43] <nalioth> j-linux: i'd be very wary of ubuntuguide. some of it's instructions can lead new users into a dead ubuntu box
[08:43] <squid0> MHaggag: the refresh rate one
[08:43] <vbgunz> thanks, peace!
[08:43] <gfxstyler> Cryptid: www.google.com -> sox
[08:44] <dougsko> so i reconfigured x a couple times, and it gave me some new refresh rates for different resolutions, but i still cant pick 70 Hz at 1024x768, very frustrating...
[08:44] <sector10> nalioth: thanks for the help
[08:44] <gnomefreak> the guide for breezy is in the menu already
[08:44] <j-linux> HappyFool: they are installed but they don't work.  I just get a blank screen in firefox, and when launching from the menu, nothing happens
[08:44] <MHaggag> squid0: I'm trying it out now. I'll let you know what happens when I'm done with the configuration :)
[08:44] <squid0> MHaggag: great. good luck
[08:44] <j-linux> The only thing I am missing is mozilla-acroread (according to ubuntuguide.org :S
[08:44] <HappyFool> j-linux: yeah, let me track the bug down...
[08:44] <j-linux> HappyFool: thanks
[08:45] <therether> hi everyone ! i am with a little (or big) problem. My glxgears output dont appears...anyone helps ?
[08:45] <nalioth> therether: you using breezy?
[08:45] <therether> nalioth, yes. the preview.
[08:45] <HappyFool> j-linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcrobatHowTo   -- the bug is in hoary, not breezy
[08:46] <tarzeau> 4 slots left in #bub-n-bros , any players join us? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net
[08:46] <flagfranca> alright people....I will try to make it work (install video codecs and change the default player)....Is there a specific codec so I can run AVI files (DV) on Ubuntu?
[08:46] <nalioth> therether: output has been disabled in breezy
[08:46] <Belutz> tarzeau ???
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell flagfranca about w32codecs
[08:46] <tarzeau> Belutz: this is a fun network game
[08:46] <therether> nalioth, really ? can i enable that ?
[08:46] <dougsko> flagfranca: just apt-get install vlc
[08:46] <PassionLim> therether, I'm in the same problem, but most 3d games works well..
[08:46] <ThePyromaniac> can someone look at http://pastebin.com/389312?
[08:47] <nalioth> tarzeau: no advertising in here, please
[08:47] <therether> PassionLim, my warcraft is too slow...:(
[08:47] <nalioth> therether: i dont know the command syntax to do so (but you can if someone knows it)
[08:47] <j-linux> HappyFool: I get them confused: breezy is the newest one about to be released?  I have the older one.
[08:47] <tarzeau> nalioth: it's not like i did the game. and it also runs on ubnutu. and i don't make any money
[08:47] <HappyFool> j-linux: that's right. hoary is officially ubuntu 5.04
[08:47] <flagfranca> another question: how do I install programs in Ubuntu? Do I need a compiler? I m new to Linux, folks....
[08:47] <nalioth> tarzeau: advertise it on #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell flagfranca about apt-get
[08:48] <Seveas> flagfranca, applications -> add applications
[08:48] <j-linux> HappyFool:  I love Ubuntu but I think the names could use improvement :S
[08:48] <HappyFool> j-linux: lsb_release -a if you're not sure
[08:48] <SuseUX> Wow, Alot of people using Ubuntu
[08:48] <Seveas> flagfranca, or system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[08:48] <HappyFool> j-linux: *shrug*
[08:48] <j-linux> HappyFool: I have Hoary
[08:48] <Maikeru> Hey
[08:48] <Maikeru> I installed a beta of VMWare
[08:48] <Maikeru> and I kinda screwed up apt-get
[08:48] <HappyFool> j-linux: then you (probably) have the acrobat bug
[08:48] <Maikeru> 'ne ideas?
[08:48] <JDigital> Woo, I got a new bluetooth USB dongle!
[08:48] <Maikeru> (lemme paste it, one min)
[08:48] <HappyFool> j-linux: it's easy to fix -- check the link
[08:48] <JDigital> ...now how do I use it?
[08:48] <dbrodie> Is it possible to resize an NTFS partition from the breezy installer?
[08:49] <Maikeru> JDigital, www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:49] <Maikeru> Read some of that, helps a lot
[08:49] <HappyFool> j-linux: let me know if it doesn't work
[08:49] <Seveas> JDigital, are you on breezy?
[08:49] <Maikeru> er, not JDigital sorry
[08:49] <Seveas> Maikeru, do NOT advise ubuntuguide
[08:49] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[08:49] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:49] <JDigital> Hoary.
[08:49] <Maikeru> Oh, sorry Seveas
[08:49] <Maikeru> Didn't know
[08:49] <Seveas> JDigital, upgrade to breezy, it has much better bluetooth support
[08:49] <Maikeru> It's always worked for me so I didn't know
[08:49] <Maikeru> besides, didn't mean to tell JDigital that anyway, was the wrong nick (so sorry JDig)
[08:49] <j-linux> HappyFool:  I'm working on it now.  Thanks.  I'll let you know if it works.
[08:50] <ThePyromaniac> guys! http://pastebin.com/389312 anyone?
[08:50] <Dreamglider> can i have grub scan my drive's and detect operative systems to add to the boot list ?
[08:50] <Maikeru> seveas
[08:50] <Maikeru> am I allowed to paste 4 lines of test?
[08:50] <Maikeru> text*
[08:51] <JDigital> yes
[08:51] <JDigital> I'm waiting for the official release of Breezy
[08:51] <Seveas> Maikeru, better use a pastebin
[08:51] <Maikeru> mmk
[08:51] <Dreamglider> when is the official release due to arrive ?
[08:51] <gfxstyler> JDigital: its pretty stable here
[08:51] <d0ogie> 3 days
[08:51] <dbrodie> or does anyone know how to use ntfsresize?
[08:51] <Maikeru> http://pastebin.com/389319
[08:51] <Maikeru> does that whenever I try to apt-get install anything now
[08:51] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: try #python
[08:51] <d0ogie> guys, i have to say that breezy is amazing
[08:52] <Maikeru> and when I open synaptic it displays that message and won't list any packages
[08:52] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: check the precise version requirements for this app
[08:52] <Maikeru> I've tried vmware-uninstall, reinstalling it (the beta)
[08:52] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool aww, but its a problem with installing gnomeboyadvance lol. why does every program installation take me 3 hours?
[08:52] <Maikeru> I've also tried installing a version that worked before
[08:52] <Maikeru> etc.
[08:52] <Maikeru> I've also tried apt-get update in every combination I can think of (uninstall then apt-get update, reinstall and apt-get update, etc.)
[08:52] <zenrox> Maikeru,  read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73955 casue i am having the same prob
[08:52] <ThePyromaniac> !at least Python 2.2, and the python-gnome, python-glade packages" which i have..
[08:52] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, ThePyromaniac
[08:53] <zenrox> Maikeru, when it come to vmware
[08:53] <Maikeru> zen: I found an article on VMWare
[08:53] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: all i can suggest is asking in #python
[08:53] <MHaggag> squid0: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does monitor configuration at the very end, and it gives the options to enter refresh rates manually (Advanced mode from the menu you'll get). I'll restart the X server now to see if it works!
[08:53] <Maikeru> but it didn't seem to help me, but I was instead told to use qemu
[08:53] <Maikeru> which is just as good but free
[08:53] <Maikeru> (supposedly)
[08:53] <zenrox> hmm
[08:53] <ThePyromaniac> ok thanks
[08:54] <zenrox> Maikeru,  can you hook me up with that artickle on vmware
[08:54] <zenrox> let me look at it
[08:54] <Maikeru> sure, one minute
[08:54] <dougsko> im having refresh rate problems too
[08:54] <zenrox> i might be able to expand on it
[08:54] <BurgerMann> I have a lingual question: does the letter A precede B or does B precede A? :S
[08:54] <Maikeru> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[08:54] <JDigital> A precedes B.
[08:54] <dougsko> i reconfigured a couple times, and it gave me some new rates, but (of course) not the one i need
[08:54] <XemonerdX> hi... does anybody know why a benq mouse would not be recognized by ubuntu?
[08:55] <BurgerMann> JDigital: hehe thanks I looked it up, but couldn't figure the translation out :)
[08:55] <JDigital> Does Breezy have good Palm support at all?
[08:55] <Answer> JDigital:  Palm is java right?  Breezy works with java
[08:55] <JDigital> I see a pretty Palm icon in a menu somewhere in Hoary but it doesn't work terribly well.
[08:55] <XemonerdX> or does anybody know where one can configure a new mouse for an existing ubuntu installation? my gf's laptop doesn't recognize the new mouse at all
[08:56] <asjdklfjsdklf> i have totem-xine running in firefox....when i play movies at apple.com/trailers i see stuff but hear no souund....can somebody please help?
[08:56] <JDigital> Answer: That's probably the least accurate answer you could have given me.
[08:56] <JDigital> asjdklfjsdklf: use mplayer instead :)
[08:56] <asjdklfjsdklf> JDigital, i hate it
[08:56] <MHaggag> dougsko: Tried the "Advanced" option at the end?
[08:56] <dougsko> asjdklfjsdklf: or vlc
[08:56] <Answer> how the hell am I supposed to type your username in to respond?
[08:56] <gfxstyler> press TAB to auto-complete
[08:57] <JDigital> Type "asj" and hit tab
[08:57] <dougsko> MHaggag: yup, i made sure to include the rate i need in the range (and then some)
[08:57] <j-linux> HappyFool:  Thanks for you help, it worked.  Acrobat reader now works.
[08:57] <Answer> asjdklfjsdklf, Wow
[08:57] <HappyFool> j-linux: good stuff
[08:57] <HappyFool> j-linux: bug has been removed for breezy
[08:57] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, can you help me please...i cant get sound in totem-xine
[08:57] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool turns out its just cause i didnt fill in the path to visualboyadvance package. where would that be...
[08:57] <ThePyromaniac> lol
[08:57] <j-linux> HappyFool: I'm glad about that.  Can one upgrade to breezy or do you have to do a clean install?
[08:57] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, when running in firefox
[08:57] <Answer> asjdklfjsdklf, is it muted in alsamixer
[08:57] <HappyFool> j-linux: no, you can upgrade
[08:57] <MHaggag> dougsko: Can't help. I'm an uber linux noob myself :P
[08:57] <nalioth> j-linux: you'll never have to "install" again
[08:57] <Answer> !tell j-linux about ugrade2breezy
[08:57] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, lemme check
[08:58] <MHaggag> dougsko: However, I'd view the Xorg configuration file and tinker with it myself.
[08:58] <j-linux> HappyFool: thanks
[08:58] <Answer> hey where did upgrade2breezy go
[08:58] <Answer> !upgrade2breezy
[08:58] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:58] <XemonerdX> does anybody know where one can configure a new mouse for an existing ubuntu installation? my gf's laptop doesn't recognize the new mouse at all
[08:58] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, alright im in alsamixer..what do i look for?
[08:58] <HappyFool> ah, yay for ubotu ;) ta answer
[08:58] <JDigital> I remember when I asked about upgrading Warty to Hoary, everyone was telling me just to format and reinstall
[08:58] <Answer> asjdklfjsdklf, look for it being muted
[08:58] <JDigital> - The root certificate from "wiki.ubuntu.com" is not known to Opera. Opera cannot decide if this certificate can be trusted.
[08:58] <j-linux> nalioth:  I hope not.  I have a way of destroying my operating system :S  Red Hat was also a victim.
[08:58] <Answer> !tell j-linux about upgrade2breezy
[08:58] <asjdklfjsdklf> surround, LFE and line in are muted
[08:58] <Answer> ther we go
[08:58] <j-linux> Answer: thanks... I'll read that.
[08:58] <asjdklfjsdklf> so what do i do?
[08:58] <asjdklfjsdklf> unmute them all?
[08:59] <Answer> asjdklfjsdklf, unmute the one you think may be muting yoru sound :)
[08:59] <MHaggag> XemonerdX: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will reconfigure everything, the mouse included
[08:59] <flagfranca> how do I install this .deb file containing the w32 codecs?
[08:59] <XemonerdX> ok thanxxx MHaggag, gonna try that
[08:59] <Answer> !tell flagfranca about w32codecs
[08:59] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, what you have to understand is that they are not programs i am unmuting, they are merely devices
[08:59] <Maikeru> so
[08:59] <Maikeru> anyone know about my problem
[08:59] <Belutz> flagfranca, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[08:59] <ThePyromaniac> this is so damn tedious... anyone know WHERE in gnomeboyadvance settings i add the path to vba? and where the hell IS vba?
[08:59] <ThePyromaniac> i can find no documents
[08:59] <Maikeru> and the entire screwing my repositories?
[08:59] <Answer> asjdklfjsdklf, so your sound works in other programs, just not in firefox?
[09:00] <MHaggag> dougsk: I seem to have found a solution.
[09:00] <funkyHat> is there a command line app i can use to monitor network traffic?
[09:00] <funkyHat> realtime or a snapshot?
[09:00] <MHaggag> dougsk: In the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, there's an entry for your monitor
[09:00] <apollo2011> How do I switch the new USplash boot screen from the blue Kubuntu one to the orange Ubuntu one?
[09:00] <flagfranca> Belutz, how do I enter command line mode, man?
[09:00] <MHaggag> dougsk: You'll find a line like this: "VertRefresh	43-72"
[09:00] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, yes - firefox running totem-xine
[09:00] <mirak> I have a problem with ubuntuPPC. At boot time it fails to mount /dev/root
[09:00] <MHaggag> dougsk: Theoretically, changing the upper limit should fix our issue :)
[09:00] <funkyHat> apollo2011, is there a package called kusplash?
[09:00] <funkyHat> if so, remove it. :)
[09:01] <Belutz> flagfranca, yup in terminal
[09:01] <kbrooks> mirak: ask
[09:01] <Belutz> flagfranca, open a terminal and type that command
[09:01] <mirak> kbrooks: the module for the cmd64x module is in the initrd and in the config file of the kernel, however at boot it fails to load it
[09:01] <dougsko> MHaggag: yes, ive tried that though... no joy
[09:01] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, got any ideas?
[09:01] <apollo2011> funkyHat: that would do it...there is a usplash and then a kubuntu-artwork-usplash package.  I will get rid of the kubuntu one
[09:01] <apollo2011> thx
[09:02] <mirak> kbrooks: the G3 blue and white have two ide controlers, and the one for the cdrom loads fine, but the one for hard drive doesn't load
[09:02] <kbrooks> mirak: not me, sorry
[09:02] <flagfranca> ok, Belutz....let me try
[09:02] <funkyHat> apollo2011, yeah, that should work :). i don't have kubuntu installed though so i'm just gessing here
[09:03] <mirak>  the module for the cmd64x module is in the initrd and in the config file of the kernel, however at boot it fails to load it. the G3 blue and white have two ide controlers, and the one for the cdrom loads fine, but the one for hard drive doesn't load
[09:03] <zenrox> Maikeru,  that worked just fine
[09:03] <sivang> mirak: maybe I can help you?
[09:03] <mirak> anyone using UBUNTU POWERPC ?
[09:03] <Maikeru> zenrox: VMWare works for you now?
[09:03] <mirak> sivang: why not
[09:03] <zenrox> yep
[09:03] <Maikeru> hmm
[09:03] <Maikeru> pm
[09:04] <mirak> sivang: do you want me to repeat ?
[09:04] <ThePyromaniac> fine, a new question. WHERE do packages go?
[09:04] <asjdklfjsdklf> mirak, where are the sound config files?  totem-xine does not have sound in my web browser
[09:04] <sivang> mirak: if you can :)
[09:04] <kbrooks> ThePyromaniac: cache?
[09:04] <Belutz> ThePyromaniac, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:04] <kbrooks>  /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:04] <mirak> sivang:  the module for the cmd64x module is in the initrd and in the config file of the kernel, however at boot it fails to load it. the G3 blue and white have two ide controlers, and the one for the cdrom loads fine, but the one for hard drive doesn't load
[09:05] <ThePyromaniac> thanks
[09:05] <mirak> asjdklfjsdklf: don't know :)
[09:05] <asjdklfjsdklf> ok
[09:05] <mirak> what File system is used for the initrd ?
[09:06] <ThePyromaniac> so anyone here use visualboyadvance?
[09:06] <dougsko> i have
[09:06] <sivang> mirak: err, is this a mac issue?
[09:07] <flagfranca> Belutz: thanks man...I think its installed
[09:07] <occy> http://vba.ngemu.com/
[09:07] <dougsko> i installed it through klix when i was running kanotix
[09:07] <mirak> sivang: yes
[09:07] <Belutz> flagfranca, :)
[09:07] <funkyHat> hmm... is a P3 an i586 processor?
[09:07] <ThePyromaniac> dougsko you talking to me?
[09:07] <tarzeau> funkyHat: no
[09:07] <funkyHat> 486?
[09:07] <dougsko> ThePyromaniac: yeah, sorry
[09:07] <tarzeau> funkyHat: 586 is like P1
[09:07] <tarzeau> funkyHat: 486 is what was before P1
[09:07] <funkyHat> so it's 686
[09:07] <sivang> mirak: hmm, then sorry, I've never owened a mac let alone make linux ork on it
[09:07] <flagfranca> Belutz: what movie player you use?
[09:07] <ThePyromaniac> dougsko do you use a GUI or command line?
[09:07] <funkyHat> ok :)
[09:07] <tarzeau> funkyHat: 686 is like P2
[09:08] <Belutz> flagfranca, i use totem-xine and vlc
[09:08] <dougsko> ThePyromaniac: gui
[09:08] <ThePyromaniac> dougsko which one? GBA?
[09:08] <robbkidd> Does anyone else have a problem with lowercase "r" not being italicized in Firefox? (Using any Bitstream Vera Sans with any encoding)
[09:08] <asjdklfjsdklf> Answer, please help me!
[09:09] <flagfranca> Belutz: the totem version 1.0.2 that came with my Ubuntu distro is not capable of installing additional codecs like the manual shows....Why this happens?
[09:09] <Belutz> flagfranca, install totem-xine :)
[09:09] <flagfranca> Belutz: how?
[09:09] <Belutz> flagfranca, in terminal, type sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:09] <asjdklfjsdklf> Belutz, how do i get sound working in totem-xine when i play movies
[09:09] <Balduran> hi
[09:10] <dougsko> ThePyromaniac: it was a gba emu, but i used something called klix to install it. it came with kanotix, but u can probly apt-get it
[09:10] <flagfranca> Belutz: let me try....
[09:10] <Belutz> asjdklfjsdklf, it automatically enabled the sound i think
[09:10] <ThePyromaniac> dougsko whats that? lol
[09:10] <Balduran> how can i start tvtime on a specific frequenzy.. i mean my analog receiver is availabe on the frequenz 543,312 but how can i tell tvtime that he should see at this frequenz
[09:10] <Belutz> asjdklfjsdklf, or you could set it up in the xine
[09:10] <asjdklfjsdklf> Belutz, can you guide me through this?
[09:11] <Belutz> asjdklfjsdklf, pm me
[09:11] <flagfranca> Belutz: Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:11] <flagfranca> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:11] <flagfranca> is only available from another source
[09:11] <flagfranca> However the following packages replace it:
[09:11] <flagfranca>   libtotem-plparser-dev libtotem-plparser0
[09:11] <flagfranca> E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[09:11] <Belutz> flagfranca, don't paste here
[09:11] <flagfranca> sorry man
[09:12] <Belutz> flagfranca, are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:12] <flagfranca> breezy
[09:12] <MHaggag> dougsk: Regarding the refresh rate issue...
[09:12] <flagfranca> the latest distro of ubuntu
[09:12] <Belutz> flagfranca, wait
[09:12] <flagfranca> ok
[09:12] <dougsko> MHaggag: yes?
[09:12] <MHaggag> dougsk: I've managed to get it to display a 75 HZ option for 1024x768 by specifying a maximum vertical rate of 85
[09:12] <El_Che> let's hope the new kernel fixes the hibernation :)
[09:12] <robbkidd> Everyone's Rs italicize appropriately in Firefox, then?
[09:12] <MHaggag> dougsk: The 85HZ is now avaialable for 800x600 only
[09:13] <Belutz> flagfranca, do you enable the universe repos?
[09:13] <dougsko> MHaggag: hmm..ok
[09:13] <MHaggag> dougsk: It'd seem that it starts with the highest vertical refresh rate for the lowest resolution or something, then goes down whenever you go up with the resolution
[09:13] <flagfranca> Belutz: I dont know , Belutz....
[09:13] <dougsko> MHaggag: ill just have to keep messing with the limits
[09:13] <MHaggag> dougsk: I tried setting a maximum of 100 HZ in xorg.conf, but it didn't show me the 85 option with 1024x768 :@
[09:14] <MHaggag> dougsk: Whatever you do, make sure you don't fry your monitor (if it can't handle erroneous settings: Some monitors do, some don't)
[09:14] <Belutz> !tell flagfranca about repos
[09:14] <jrattner1> they should just release breezy today
[09:14] <dougsko> MHaggag: yeah i could get my 70 hz with 800x600, but thats crap
[09:14] <jrattner1> its more exciting that way
[09:14] <Belutz> flagfranca, you get a message from ubotu?
[09:14] <HappyFool> jrattner1: random release dates?
[09:14] <jrattner1> HappyFool, yes : )
[09:14] <MHaggag> dougsko: Agreed :(
[09:14] <MHaggag> Anyway, while experimenting, keep in mind you also have to restart the X server after doing the changes (for them to take effect): Press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[09:15] <dougsko> MHaggag: lol yeah, well if it does fry, i hope it freaking blows up lol
[09:15] <HappyFool> heh
[09:15] <dougsko> MHaggag: yeah
[09:16] <flagfranca> Belutz: yeah, I did get the message.....but where do I enable this "Universe Repos"?
[09:16] <MHaggag> dougsko: Ok, good luck. I'm going to *research* this issue in the upcoming weeks (or months, or years, who knows :D). So if you keep popping in here every now and then I'll tell you the solution :D
[09:16] <Belutz> flagfranca, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <flagfranca> Belutz: Do I have to update this .list file?
[09:16] <Belutz> flagfranca, yes
[09:17] <Belutz> flagfranca, after you edited the sources.list file, run sudo apt-get update
[09:17] <dougsko> MHaggag: cool, sounds good man
[09:17] <SuseUX> flagfranca, just enable it in synaptic
[09:17] <SuseUX> more simple
[09:18] <SuseUX> settings/repositories
[09:20] <jabra> if I have found a bug should I just submit it to bugzilla or describe it to someone?
[09:20] <Cody`> could anyone provide me with a permissions dump of /etc on their hoary installl? I accidentally chmod -R 755 ./ 'd them and now esd doesn't seem to work
[09:20] <shawarma> I ordered a load of CD's a few weeks back. It says my order has been sent to the shipping company... I was expecting to get Breezy CD's, but for obvious reasons they don't exists yet... Am I going to receive Hoary or Breezy Cd's ?
[09:20] <flagfranca> SuseUX: how do I enable Universe Repos in Synaptic?
[09:21] <shawarma> jabra: Most importantly: bugzilla
[09:21] <jabra> ok
[09:21] <SuseUX> just click add and then pick the universe
[09:21] <HappyFool> !tell flagfranca about synaptic
[09:21] <robbkidd> Okay: Bitstream Vera Sans + Firefox = no italic lowercase r at point size 14.  That's a weird one.
[09:22] <robbkidd> Vera Sans "r" at 14 point works in OpenOffice.
[09:23] <mirak> hi, I have some question about the structure of the initrd
[09:23] <bur[n] er> I would Cody` if I had hoary :\
[09:23] <_jason> what is the difference between vim and vim-gnome?  how do i run vim-gnome?
[09:23] <mirak> in thoery who handles the content of the initrd ?
[09:23] <bur[n] er> _jason: gvim ?
[09:23] <Cody`> vim-gnome in terminal?
[09:23] <mirak> the kernel or the bootloader ?
[09:23] <Cody`> bur[n] er: have breezy?
[09:23] <_jason> bur[n] er:  thank you... smacks self
[09:24] <bur[n] er> breezy repos are gettin busy ;)
[09:24] <bur[n] er> yes Cody` I have breezy
[09:25] <Cody`> good enough
[09:25] <Cody`> better than none :P
[09:25] <bur[n] er> well... /etc is huge
[09:25] <SuseUX> mirak, the bootload points to initrd and mounts it on ext2 fs, loads the modules and then mounts the filesystem
[09:25] <bur[n] er> you want the whole thing and subdirectories?
[09:25] <RockyBurt> anychance ubuntu folks are gonna upgrade gnome-power-manager version anytime soon? (breezy)
[09:25] <TiMiDo> yeah in 3 more days RockyBurt
[09:25] <mirak> SuseUX: thank you
[09:26] <RockyBurt> TiMiDo: seriously? gonna update to latest gnome-power-manager?
[09:26] <TiMiDo> yeah,
[09:26] <RockyBurt> TiMiDo: is there a test deb someplace i could try ?
[09:26] <mirak> SuseUX: ok, so breezy seems to now use cpio compressed files for the initrd
[09:27] <SuseUX> mirak, intrid is useless really, it's for distributions that need wide suport
[09:27] <Xenguy> wow, 3 days to Breezy
[09:27] <mirak> SuseUX: how can the bootloader knows that it's a cpio compressed file ?
[09:27] <Xenguy> awesome, and looking forward
[09:27] <TiMiDo> try searching it RockyBurt
[09:27] <mirak> SuseUX: I try to resolve a Macintosh problem
[09:28] <flagfranca> Belutz: I found totem-xine on Synaptic....do I have to uninstall this totem (dummy) version first?
[09:28] <SuseUX> mirak, the bootloader just points to it
[09:28] <mirak> SuseUX: you said it mounts it
[09:28] <Belutz> flagfranca, no, it will automatically uninstall it for you
[09:29] <flagfranca> Belutz and SuseUx: Thanks fellows
[09:29] <SuseUX> mirak, just points to it, the kernel mounts it
[09:29] <Subliminal> i'm having some mouse problems (it keeps thinking the middle button is being pressed and so pastes text everywhere) the problem doesnt appear on windows but it does on another ubuntu machine, so i'm thinking it's some form of X problem, but i dont know what to do now i've tried a few different mouse protocols and some are even worse, currently using ImPS/2
[09:29] <SuseUX> missed out the kernel bit
[09:30] <mirak> SuseUX: how can the kernel knows wich format is it ? is it hardcoded or dynamical ?
[09:30] <RockyBurt> TiMiDo: i'm googling at the moment, still haven't come across a new deb
[09:30] <SuseUX> mirak, read the kernel docs
[09:31] <RockyBurt> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/gnome-power-manager is old
[09:31] <HatchetDawg> breezy is nice but evolution still sucks (at least for me since i have no use for it) a few people have had issues removing it from hoary......even more have had issues after they removed it from hoary then upgraded to breezy........ any reports of tons of hassle from removing it once upgraded to breezy?
[09:31] <mirak> SuseUX: that's to much
[09:31] <kwilcox> anyone have a decent link for getting a VGA out working on a laptop?
[09:31] <SuseUX> mirak, initrid and the boot process it quiet conplex
[09:31] <PassionLim> http://www.passioninside.com/screen.png         somebody knows about theme using in the firefox in this screenshot??
[09:32] <SuseUX> *nitrd
[09:32] <mirak> SuseUX: ok
[09:32] <SuseUX> complex*
[09:32] <mirak> SuseUX: i am searching a way to know if the initrd is loaded or not
[09:32] <noplease> hi
[09:32] <mirak> don't know what to look for
[09:33] <Answer> HatchetDawg:  Thunderbird works fine in both.  I don't like Evolution
[09:33] <SuseUX> mirak, the kernel umounts initrd whenit's finished
[09:33] <stpere> hi, anyone using firestarter got google (gmail) blocked?
[09:33] <nalioth> Answer: there is a faq on mozillazine re importing your tbird settings
[09:34] <Cody`> anyone know why esound died after my nice chowning /etc to cody then back t o root and chmodding everything to 755?
[09:34] <jabra> where do you submit bugs for rc?
[09:34] <kwilcox> anyone have a decent link for getting a VGA out working on a laptop?
[09:34] <jabra> if there is a special location?
[09:35] <Cody`> gsudo also doesn't work :(
[09:35] <mirak> SuseUX: I am not sure it goes that far
[09:35] <JDahl> kwilcox, it should work without tweaking.
[09:36] <kwilcox> JDahl: I set the Fn+F2 key in BIOS, but Ubuntu either doesn't recognize the key combo, or something else doesn't work
[09:37] <barosl> what firefox theme is used in this scrrenshot? http://www.passioninside.com/screen.png
[09:37] <HatchetDawg> seveas: thnx for the recomendations yesterday
[09:37] <Subliminal> i'm having some mouse problems (it keeps thinking the middle button is being pressed and so pastes text everywhere) the problem doesnt appear on windows but it does on another ubuntu machine, so i'm thinking it's some form of X problem, but i dont know what to do now i've tried a few different mouse protocols and some are even worse, currently using ImPS/2
[09:38] <PassionLim> barosl, I don't know, so I asked :)
[09:38] <RockyBurt> TiMiDo: anychance you know where the new gnome-power-manager deb is? google isn't being very cooperative with me
[09:38] <barosl> PassionLim, you here! lol
[09:38] <Answer> barosl: It looks like the system theme is set to ClearLooks   System->Preferences->Theme
[09:39] <PassionLim> barosl, System theme is ClearLooks..
[09:39] <kwilcox> JDahl: any other suggestions?
[09:40] <JDahl> kwilcox, no, I am afraid not. I've never had any problems like that.
[09:40] <sorush20> why do I keep getting access denied when I try to delete my files that are on my user space and not the root user space..
[09:41] <JDigital> Maybe you are trying to delete a folder?
[09:41] <Belutz> sorush20, try to run ls -l to see the owner of the files
[09:41] <Rev-Marc> does anyone have a link to download the Ubuntu DVD'd not using torrent?
[09:42] <Rev-Marc> DVD'S
[09:42] <Skid> yeah i think i mirrored some dvd's
[09:42] <squidlarkin> hi all, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time (breezy)... i'm currently stuck on the partitioning step. it says no root file system is defined.
[09:42] <Skid> lemme go have a lookie
[09:42] <Answer> squidlarkin, use guided partitioning, or create a partition and mount it as /
[09:43] <Rev-Marc> Thanks
[09:43] <dr_willis> hmm.. i just noticed that the 'syncing time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org' alwyas seems to fail on every machine..
[09:43] <JDigital> Maybe the internet connection is down
[09:43] <JDahl> dr_willis, not for me
[09:44] <sorush20> what is everyone talking about three days to breezy?
[09:44] <HatchetDawg> seveas: welcome back
[09:44] <Cody`> anyone know what permissions esd's files in /etc need to be
[09:44] <dr_willis> it  looks like its syncing way early in the boot process also.
[09:44] <Cody`> 644?
[09:44] <djm62> maybe insufficient time for DHCP to happen?
[09:44] <Cody`> got gksu working
[09:44] <annex> sorush20: it will be officially released on the 13th
[09:44] <djm62> or a problem with card services being started, and network cards
[09:44] <Seveas> HatchetDawg, thanks
[09:44] <sorush20> Belutz: I'm the owner of the file since I saved it to my user desktop..
[09:45] <Skid> Rev-Marc: hmph, looks like the dvd's were removed due to space taken up
[09:45] <sorush20> annex: why was I told to update before this date..
[09:45] <Skid> where are you based?
[09:45] <Skid> ah, the states
[09:45] <Skid> i'd probably be a slow mirror, seeing as i'm in the uk
[09:45] <Rev-Marc> we can try
[09:45] <annex> sorush20: well, you should always keep up to date.  But if you mean upgrade to Breezy then I don't know, unless you needed to for something not available in Warty.
[09:46] <SuseUX> tons of updated coming through in 5.10RC
[09:46] <Belutz> sorush20, that's strange
[09:46] <SuseUX> updates*
[09:46] <annex> sorush20: the preview release came out a while ago, maybe whomever told you thought it was final
[09:46] <Rev-Marc> I just can't the torrent thing to make good progress
[09:46] <jwd_> how can I get a list of PCI device and where they are
[09:46] <Skid> what are you trying to download?
[09:46] <Skid> breezy preview?
[09:46] <SuseUX> jwd_, lspci -v
[09:46] <jwd_> thanks
[09:46] <annex> jwd_: sudo lspci
[09:47] <dazzlindan> how do i install the art manager for ubuntu?
[09:47] <dr_willis> yesterday seemed i was getting updates hittingevery hr or so
[09:47] <SuseUX> dr_willis, yer, big ones
[09:47] <CardinalFang> Hi.  Are there any Canonicalers here?  I have an org question.
[09:47] <dr_willis> '592' updates aviliable on this machine. :P  i aint updated THIS one in some time
[09:47] <kbrooks> CardinalFang: just ask
[09:47] <SuseUX> dazzlindan, what art manager is that?
[09:47] <Rev-Marc> the install DVD I have systems at my church that are not on broadband and the DVD appears to have most pachages
[09:48] <SuseUX> dr_willis, lol
[09:48] <annex> dr_willis: wait a little while so you can at least break the 600 mark
[09:48] <dazzlindan> SuseUX, isn't there an art manager type of thing for ubuntu that allows you to choose a background and theme off of a database of them?
[09:48] <Rev-Marc> well I guess the release is out in 3 days I should wait for that
[09:49] <dr_willis> Rev-Marc,  why bother waiting.
[09:49] <dr_willis> unless you are on slow connection :P
[09:49] <kbrooks> breezy works
[09:49] <SuseUX> dazzlindan, sounds like something off gnomefiles.org
[09:49] <jwd_> suseUX: I am tryin to sepcify what BUSid to use in xorg.conf the bus ID for my video card is 00:0e.0
[09:49] <jwd_> but it just drops me to a blank screen
[09:49] <Rev-Marc> I know that is what I am using here
[09:50] <Skid> Rev-Marc: once it's released (stable) I'll grab a copy
[09:50] <dazzlindan> SuseUX, no... i don't believe its that.  i installed Ubuntu Hoary and upgraded to the breezy preview.  it was on there by default, yet on my brothers system, which i did the same thing on, its not on there.
[09:50] <Rev-Marc> I am on cale modem the church still has dial-up
[09:50] <Skid> I can send it over to the states too
[09:50] <Skid> so you can download faster
[09:50] <Skid> i've got some backup mx crap out there :)
[09:50] <SuseUX> jwd_, bus id usually is not the problem i've found, whats your spec?
[09:50] <Rev-Marc> cale = cablekewl
[09:50] <Rev-Marc> man bad day
[09:50] <Rev-Marc> that would be great
[09:51] <SuseUX> dazzlindan, not seen it, if you do tell me :-)
[09:51] <jwd_> video card = S3 Trio64 V+
[09:51] <sorush20> I still keep getting access denied for all my files can some one help please..
[09:51] <dazzlindan> ok i will for sure. if i can't find it, as soon as i get home i will get on and tell you.  my nick will be haslguitar
[09:51] <SuseUX> jwd_, you mean X dont startup?
[09:52] <Skid> Rev-Marc: poke me, as I'll be in this channel and i'll have it for yas
[09:52] <jwd_> exactly
[09:52] <cevizoglu> does canonical provide consulting services?
[09:52] <SuseUX> jwd_, what does the driver part say?
[09:52] <jwd_> s3: No matching device section for instance
[09:53] <Tb0n3> question: what is the switch for rmdir when the directory isn't empty
[09:53] <jwd_> (BudID PCI:0:14:0
[09:53] <nalioth> cevizoglu: yes it does
[09:53] <jwd_> suse : where am I looking
[09:53] <jwd_> seems like it picked up the card fine
[09:53] <jwd_> No devices detected
[09:53] <SuseUX> the driver name
[09:53] <jwd_> last line
[09:53] <_jason> Tb0n3:  use rm -r DIRECTORY
[09:53] <SuseUX> in xorg
[09:54] <bur[n] er> anyone know if it's possible to dual boot windows and linux and run the same Thunderbird profile in each so that Inboxes are the same in Ubuntu and Windows??
[09:54] <jwd_> s3
[09:54] <dr_willis> gee am i going have to figure out a way to make xchat 'pause' befor joining this channel - so i dont get bounecd to  #ubuntu-unregged all the time
[09:54] <Answer> bur[n] er, I just asked that question earlier today!
[09:54] <SuseUX> did it set that by default?
[09:54] <jwd_> Driver    "s3"
[09:54] <sector10> anybody know why system:about ubunut comes up error?
[09:54] <jwd_> yes
[09:54] <bur[n] er> Answer: try it out yet?
[09:55] <SuseUX> well you'll have to change it to "vesa" for now
[09:55] <bur[n] er> I have yet to brave the waters of testing it
[09:55] <Answer> bur[n] er, Nobody could give me an idea of how.  I thought maybe using a fat32 partition somehow...
[09:55] <_jason> sector10:  does it for me too... someone told me it was a documented bug
[09:55] <bur[n] er> well.. here's how you could do it...
[09:55] <jwd_> loaded right up
[09:55] <sorush20> guys my hotplug system isn't working fully... when I try to plug in  a printer it doesn't load the firmware or anything else all it does is to detect the presence and nothing else.
[09:55] <bur[n] er> install ext2ifs on windows so that windows can read ext3 paritions
[09:55] <sector10> _jason: thanks
[09:56] <SuseUX> jwd_, so it should :-)
[09:56] <bur[n] er> then edit the thunderbird config to go to your f:/home/user/.mozilla/ directory for it's config
[09:56] <jwd_> anyway to fix it?
[09:56] <bur[n] er> where f:/ is your ext3 linux partitoin
[09:56] <bur[n] er> i'm just not sure if they're the same
[09:56] <sorush20> I was told by nalioth that the breezy was fully out..
[09:56] <bur[n] er> i've never tried to move a thunderbird dir from windows to linux or vice versa
[09:56] <SuseUX> jwd_, depends what you need the s3 driver for, is vesa ok?
[09:56] <dr_willis> i imagine that for the next month there will be daily updates to breezy :P
[09:57] <jwd_> yeah looks fine
[09:57] <Answer> sorush20, ubuntu is always evolving... the official breezy release date is october 13th.   but there will be updates after that anyways
[09:57] <jwd_> I have an NVidia on the way
[09:57] <nalioth> sorush20: oct 13 officially
[09:57] <jwd_> should be fine for now
[09:57] <Answer> bur[n] er, I've never heard of ext3ifs
[09:57] <jwd_> good point!
[09:57] <bur[n] er> Answer: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[09:57] <kbrooks> nalioth: there?
[09:57] <SuseUX> jwd_, leave it at vesa and then change it accordingly to nvidia when you have your card
[09:57] <bur[n] er> Answer: it lets you read/write and use as a normal filesystem in windows
[09:57] <dr_willis> ive used that  ifs thing under windows to read/write ext3's - worked very good.
[09:57] <bur[n] er> Answer: it's how I put my MP3s on my PC to be read by both :)
[09:58] <Answer> bur[n] er, ok so why wouldn't what you descrived work?  I did that with a fat32 partition.
[09:58] <bur[n] er> u could also use a FAT32 and point both the linux config and windows config at that fat32
[09:58] <nalioth> kbrooks: there what?
[09:58] <TedLemon> Question about kmail on breezy: after the latest update, smtps doesn't seem to work.   But I don't remember for sure that it worked before the latest update - I only just started using it.   Does anybody know anything about this?
[09:58] <bur[n] er> Answer: just curious if anyone has done it successfully ;)
[09:58] <SuseUX> jwd_, ofcourse when you get your nvidia card, you need to install nvidia-glx package
[09:58] <bur[n] er> i know how but I don't wanna be the guinea pig if shit hits the fan ;)
[09:58] <Answer> bur[n] er, oh... hehe.  nobody that I have heard.  I am actively trying to do that thoh
[09:59] <kbrooks> nalioth:
[09:59] <bur[n] er> Answer: care to share hte experience later? :)
[09:59] <kbrooks> sorush20 I was told by nalioth that the breezy was fully out..
[09:59] <Answer> bur[n] er, yeah i'm on here most of the time
[10:00] <Answer> why do people act like ubuntu is not constantly evolving, and there are 'releases' which can be 'fully out'.  like they're not going to change or something
[10:00] <caonex> anybody here with ndiswrapper?
[10:00] <jwd_> suse can you help with one more thing?
[10:00] <Answer> !ndiswrapper
[10:00] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:00] <jwd_> when I boot up I have no net access until I type dhclient
[10:00] <sorush20> maybe he just made a mistake kbrooks
[10:01] <caonex> I have successfully installed the module of my wlan0 device, but it is not acquiring the ap. I can scan the essids en everything. It just will not connect, any ideas around this issue?
[10:01] <SuseUX> jwd_, what kind of network, NIC, USB?
[10:01] <jwd_> NIC
[10:01] <kbrooks> Answer: ubuntu is constantly evolving. ubuntu's stable releases are frozen. no new apps/new versions of apps, only security updates if they dont break ubuntu
[10:02] <ianbillmorris> anyone know of somthing similar to procmail I can run as an IMAP client?
[10:02] <kbrooks> Answer: and i dont know why  some pepole have that attitude
[10:02] <SuseUX> jwd_, whats it's name, onboard, PCI?
[10:02] <jwd_> PCI
[10:02] <kbrooks> jwd_: lspci -> pastebin
[10:02] <nekostar> hello!!!
[10:02] <Answer> jwd_:  edit /etc/network/interfaces  add a line that says "iface eth1 inet dhcp"  and a line that says "auto eth1"
[10:03] <Abysmal> hey all.. anyone here using kumbutu??
[10:03] <nekostar> so now that i have ubuntu in,
[10:03] <nekostar> i have my nvidia card drivers in!
[10:03] <Answer> Abysmal: it is "kubuntu" and there is a channel #kubuntu
[10:03] <TedLemon> Abysmal: I've been using kubuntu, but I don't have my kubuntu system in front of me at the moment.
[10:03] <Cody`> anyone know the permission of /etc/esound and contents?
[10:03] <nekostar> how can i check that my system is properly set up for my creative sb 2?
[10:03] <Answer> Cody`:  ls -l  will show you the permissions
[10:03] <TedLemon> Oh, cool, thanks Answer!   :')
[10:04] <Cody`> Answer: yeah, but I fooked permissions
[10:04] <Cody`> hence why I was asking :P
[10:04] <Answer> Cody`, ok I look for you
[10:04] <SuseUX> dr_willis, I like the was a new kernel comes down and the nvidia driver stays up, precomped for all there kernels?
[10:04] <SuseUX> way*
[10:04] <kbrooks> SuseUX: No.
[10:04] <wabble> i have my laptops 1024x768 resolution when i connect it to my 1280x1024 external screen via port replicator. Any nice fast fix?
[10:04] <Iam8up> does ubuntu have gaim?
[10:04] <jwd_> eth0
[10:04] <jwd_> or eth1?
[10:04] <_jason> Iam8up:  yes
[10:05] <jwd_> ifoncfig
[10:05] <nekostar> Iam8up,  yes it does
[10:05] <Answer> Iam8up: yes look under Applications, Internet
[10:05] <jwd_>  says eth0
[10:05] <nekostar> and it works great!
[10:05] <Iam8up> i'm downloading it ATM actually
[10:05] <Answer> Iam8up, it should be there...
[10:05] <SuseUX> kbrooks, so how does the nvidia driver stay ok with another another?
[10:05] <nekostar> Iam8up, did you apt-get install it?
[10:05] <Iam8up> but um...any page on the wiki or something with a nice list of included apps?
[10:05] <_jason> I think he means he is downloading ubuntu?
[10:05] <Iam8up> no..i'm downloading the unbuntu x86 cd...
[10:05] <nekostar> because it was already installed when i did the install
[10:05] <nekostar> oicic
[10:05] <kbrooks> SuseUX: precompiling the driver for all those kernels would make it HUGE
[10:05] <Iam8up> yes
[10:05] <SuseUX> kernel*
[10:06] <Abysmal> is there much difference between 5.04 and 5.10??
[10:06] <Answer> Cody`:  -rw-r--r--    ls -l /etc/esound
[10:06] <Iam8up> i LOVE how it's one cd though =)
[10:06] <kbrooks> Abysmal: a lot
[10:06] <Answer> Iam8up, it downloads a lot of stuff after that one cd :)
[10:06] <nekostar> _jason, is there a way to check that my soundblaster 2 card is in there properly with the drivers?
[10:06] <SuseUX> kbrooks, so how come the nvidia-glx package works with a new ubuntu kernel?
[10:06] <Iam8up> Answer - it needs network to isntall? evil =(
[10:06] <Abysmal> i have a 5.04 install.. will apt-get upgrade work to bring it up to 5.10?
[10:06] <nekostar> and how do i do the fps checks for my gfx card?
[10:06] <Iam8up> i gotta haul my ass over and wire up a cat5 then...afk..
[10:06] <Answer> Iam8up, no, just to download extra packages
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Abysmal about upgrade2breezy
[10:06] <_jason> nekostar:  i don't know... I'm fairly new
[10:06] <Cody`> Answer: ty
[10:06] <Iam8up> Answer - extra being..?
[10:07] <nekostar> thanx :P anyone else know by chance?
[10:07] <JDigital> I should probably wait for the official release
[10:07] <Answer> Iam8up, updates and stuff... I dunno
[10:07] <Iam8up> Answer - oh i see...thanks
[10:07] <jwd_> suseUX: ifconfig says eth0 should I use eth1 or eth0?
[10:07] <TedLemon> Is there a good description of how to build a custom kernel that's the same as the one I'm running from ubuntu except for my custom change?
[10:07] <kbrooks> SuseUX: i *believe* it installs $(echo linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`)
[10:07] <athlon> anyone know an OSS tool to mass convert BMP images to PNG ?
[10:07] <kbrooks> or maybe you have to
[10:07] <Answer> Iam8up, it will work after the install cd is done :)  but it's not like they magically fit more than 700mb on there
[10:07] <kbrooks> not sure
[10:07] <Answer> athlon, gimp
[10:07] <mjr> athlon, convert or the tools in netpbm
[10:07] <mjr> athlon, convert in package imagemagick
[10:08] <nekostar> jwd_, do you have more than one card in it?
[10:08] <jwd_> yeah one on board
[10:08] <jwd_> no using
[10:08] <nekostar> which do you use normally
[10:08] <jwd_> not using rather
[10:08] <Abysmal> thanks for the upgrade info..
[10:08] <SuseUX> kbrooks, so you "maybe" saying that the nvidia driver is in the ubuntu kernel?
[10:08] <jwd_> eth0
[10:08] <nekostar> ah i would just guess eth1
[10:08] <kbrooks> SuseUX: No.
[10:08] <Abysmal> anyone running a domain/web server
[10:08] <kbrooks> its not
[10:08] <Answer> SuseUX, the nvidia drivers are in the package nvidia-glx
[10:08] <Iam8up> Answer - overburning, compression...you can get a _lot_
[10:08] <athlon> mjr, thanks
[10:08] <kbrooks> SuseUX: that would create a problem
[10:08] <jwd_> when I type dhclient I get access and the dhcp ip comes up on eth0
[10:09] <Iam8up> look at windows xp - do you have any idea how bloated that thing is? or how many drivers? all on one cd!!!!
[10:09] <SuseUX> Answer, I know that but changing kernels the nvidia driver is still working, that should not happen
[10:09] <TedLemon> jwd_: it sounds like you don't have dhcp enabled in your network configuration dialog.
[10:09] <speel> SuseUX, xp has drivers that work o.O lol ?
[10:09] <jwd_> so why do I always have to type dhclient?
[10:09] <Answer> jwd_: did you do what I said??
[10:09] <SuseUX> speel, thats totally different
[10:09] <Abysmal> bye, bye Mepis.. Hello Umbutu!
[10:09] <TedLemon> because you don't have it enabled, jwd_
[10:09] <Answer> jwd_:  edit /etc/network/interfaces  add a line that says "iface eth1 inet dhcp"  and a line that says "auto eth1"
[10:10] <TedLemon> Basically, do what Answer says.   :')
[10:10] <Iam8up> speel - work, yes
[10:10] <Answer> Do as I say, not as I do :)
[10:10] <jwd_> hehehe
[10:10] <lsuactiafner> how do i make the consoles boot into root? yes insecure ect i know the risks well enough.
[10:10] <TedLemon> So no advice on building a custom kernel?   :'(
[10:10] <jwd_> change and reboot?
[10:11] <Answer> jwd_, If you want to see if it works on startup, yes.
[10:11] <TedLemon> you could just ifup and ifdown.
[10:11] <ssam> lsuactiafner, sudo su
[10:11] <jwd_> :-)
[10:11] <lsuactiafner> TedLemon : why do you want to do it?
[10:11] <ssam> lsuactiafner,or  sudo bash
[10:11] <SuseUX> TedLemon, custom, yer
[10:11] <sorush20> guys why is shuttelworth investing in impi when there is plenty of room for improvement and investment on ubuntu..
[10:11] <TedLemon> I'm running Linux under VMware, and I need to slow the clock interrupt to 100Hz instead of 1KHz.
[10:11] <sorush20> ?
[10:11] <sorush20> ?
[10:11] <TedLemon> Also, I need to fix some bugs in the IPv6 code so that I can make my DHCPv6 client work on Linux.
[10:11] <lsuactiafner> ssam : boot into a root console without a passwd prompt
[10:11] <tritium> lsuactiafner: sudo -i
[10:11] <TedLemon> Basically, because I am a freak.   :')
[10:12] <Answer> sorush20, do you have a link or news story or press release? what are you talkin bout?
[10:12] <tritium> lsuactiafner: but you'll need to provide a password
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> sorush20 : because he has a bucket load of money and its his to spend.
[10:12] <Abysmal> has anyone tried kubuntu??
[10:12] <SuseUX> TedLemon, using the kernel from kernel.org besid ubuntu kernel is easy
[10:12] <TedLemon> abysmal:I have.   It's nice.
[10:12] <dougsko> hey guys, if any of you cant seem to pick the correct refresh rate for your screen, i figured it out
[10:12] <ssam> lsuactiafner, um, not sure
[10:12] <dr_willis> Abysmal,  i find it easier to just install ubuntu and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (or whatever)
[10:13] <ssam> lsuactiafner, you want the computer to turn on and get to a logged in root prompt?
[10:13] <kbrooks> mmm
[10:13] <kbrooks> i love this
[10:13] <sorush20> here is what I'm talking about.. http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/impilinux,
[10:13] <TedLemon> SuseUX, bear in mind that I am a complete Linux loser - all my kernel dev experience is in BSD.   So I've only evern built a Linux kernel a few times, and it was really painful for me.
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> ssam : yes, all the consoles should be logined as root
[10:13] <dougsko> ok, well, i actually have to go to class now, but ill be back later
[10:13] <annex> TedLemon: checkout the ubuntu wiki, looks like theres a few good articles for a custom kernel: http://tinyurl.com/ahgxj
[10:13] <sorush20> lsuactiafner: he should have asked the ubuntu users first ..
[10:13] <kbrooks> sorush20: no
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> dont want to type the passwd 11 times on a secure system
[10:13] <SuseUX> TedLemon, http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=152070
[10:14] <kbrooks> sorush20: it doesnt matter
[10:14] <tritium> sorush20: he can do whatever he wants with his own money
[10:14] <lsuactiafner> sorush20 : bullshit, his money, if you want him to ask you pay him 5 billion dollars
[10:14] <z0unds> hey, can anyone help me get my mic working? it has worked before but dosnt now? :S
[10:14] <ssam> lsuactiafner, can you just fiddle with the sudoers file
[10:14] <SuseUX> TedLemon, it dont tell you how to edit GRUB, so you need to find out how, easy enough
[10:14] <SuseUX> just lilo
[10:14] <Answer> sorush20, I think he just wants to make a proprietary version based on ubuntu so they can profit.
[10:14] <dieman> damn, ftp.heanet.ie should be like the default ubuntu mirror for i2 :)
[10:14] <kbrooks> Answer: drop it
[10:14] <dieman> for .edu higher ed use.
[10:14] <lsuactiafner> and a company with infinite capital doesnt mean it will be more successful than others
[10:14] <kbrooks> guys
[10:14] <dieman> even from the united states its flippin' fast.
[10:15] <kbrooks> this talk is becoming too controversial
[10:15] <lsuactiafner> i use lilo
[10:15] <TedLemon> Grub I can handle - I've already had to fix it up for VMware.   :')
[10:15] <FarrisG>  I have a script that does a "du -s /some/path/ | sort -nr > /some/file" every night, and then keeps datestamped copies of the output file. Would it be difficult to use gnuplot or some other tool to graph this data? I've never used gnuplot, and I wonder if it would be difficult since the order of the data might change
[10:15] <kbrooks> please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:15] <tritium> please take the impi talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:15] <tritium> kbrooks: ;)
[10:15] <TedLemon> THanks, SuseUX and annex!
[10:15] <mirak_> hi
[10:15] <z0unds> hey, can anyone help me get my mic working? it has worked before but dosnt now? :S
[10:15] <kbrooks> tritium: am i right about the controversy stuff
[10:15] <nalioth> tritium: you find your X?
[10:15] <SuseUX> :-)
[10:16] <tritium> kbrooks: oh yeah
[10:16] <tritium> nalioth: no, not yet.  Have not tried.  I'm not home anyway to try
[10:16] <annex> TedLemon: my pleasure, compiling gets easier. I used to do it often enough when using gentoo
[10:16] <nalioth> tritium: is it monday again?
[10:16] <mirak_> hi
[10:16] <tritium> nalioth: yeah, taking a late lunch
[10:16] <lsuactiafner> TedLemon : i screwed up the first 3 times, but from there its been a joy, saved many more system with my own kernel than i lost..
[10:16] <kbrooks> i highly doubt the guys at canonical would ever want to make a proprietary version based on ubuntu just for profit
[10:16] <SuseUX> annex, it's like having a third hand :-)
[10:17] <nalioth> kbrooks: see RedHat
[10:17] <Answer> kbrooks: DROP IT
[10:17] <kbrooks> nalioth: umm, thats the opposite
[10:17] <annex> hehe
[10:17] <Abysmal> thanks. dr_w..
[10:17] <squidlarkin> ok, so i'm installing breezy, and the "install the base system" step keeps failing at different points.
[10:17] <nalioth> kbrooks: anyway, -ot
[10:17] <lsuactiafner> TedLemon : like ubuntu wouldnt boot the default kernel, had to make my own to get it working, been good since
[10:17] <mirak_> it seems ubuntu ppc fails to load the initrd in cpio format. I checked the dmesg boot log, and with an old kernel that uses cramfs it works fine.
[10:17] <kbrooks> anyway, *dropped*
[10:18] <PaulNeb> Having problems running the Live AMD32 disks.  5.04 and 5.10 both cause kernel panics.
[10:18] <mirak_> is it simple to create a cramfs image ?
[10:18] <squidlarkin> now it says "no installable cd-rom was found and no valid mirror was configured"
[10:18] <SuseUX> annex, you cannot beat stripping all the stuff out and customizing it for your machine :-)
[10:18] <Answer> mirak_, where there is a will there is a way
[10:18] <jwd_> Answer: nope
[10:18] <kbrooks> i love the ubuntu help
[10:18] <Answer> jwd_: and when you start all you have to type is dhclient and hten it works?  you just need to configure the interface to use dhcp on boot
[10:18] <kbrooks> it rules
[10:19] <jwwolf88> Does ubuntu support SATA drivers?
[10:19] <tritium> yes, jwwolf88
[10:19] <sorush20> lsuactiafner: the ubuntu firm is worth 5 billion dollers.. SA
[10:19] <PaulNeb> Having problems running the Live AMD32 disks.  5.04 and 5.10 both cause kernel panic.
[10:19] <SuseUX> jwwolf88, it's Linux, still the same :-)
[10:19] <jwwolf88> where would i go about getting them? is there a special set for ubuntu?
[10:19] <kbrooks> hm
[10:19] <squidlarkin> anyone know what i should do?
[10:19] <sorush20> l
[10:19] <kbrooks> yelp exits after i click on a specific link
[10:20] <Iam8up> creepy...
[10:20] <sorush20> SA
[10:20] <jwd_> Answer: how do I do that?
[10:20] <mirak_> what can prevent in the kernel the loading of a cpio compressed initrd image  ?
[10:20] <kbrooks> sorush20: SA?
[10:20] <SuseUX> Iam8up, bandwith hore :-)
[10:20] <Iam8up> SuseUX - i would've done a torrent...
[10:20] <cevizoglu> sorush20, watch the go-open videos and see what Mark Shuttleworth says there.. that's all I'm going to say
[10:20] <Answer> jwd_: I thought with the commands in /etc/network/interfaces, but apparently I am not right...  ask others
[10:20] <jwwolf88> torrent is the best
[10:20] <Iam8up> i love my azureus
[10:20] <jwwolf88> dling at 1.2mbs now
[10:21] <Iam8up> i don't suppose azureus comes w/ubuntu?
[10:21] <tritium> jwd_: you need an "auto" stanza in your /etc/network/interfaces.  "man interfaces" for details
[10:21] <jwwolf88> it better
[10:21] <SuseUX> gnome torrent is simple, azurus is slow
[10:21] <kbrooks> Iam8up: maybe but you need java
[10:21] <Iam8up> kbrooks - what's wrong with that?
[10:21] <jwwolf88> kbrooks: java is the future get a machine that can cope
[10:21] <PaulNeb> NE1 good with the AMD64 disks?
[10:21] <jwd_> auto
[10:21] <kbrooks> SuseUX: um, that could be misinterpreted as a troll be careful
[10:21] <jwd_> okay looking
[10:22] <SuseUX> kbrooks, no, it's a fact :-)
[10:22] <Oversight> how can I remove evolution? It says its in use but I dont use it
[10:22] <nalioth> take the java discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:22] <AaronMT> synaptic?
[10:22] <wabble> i love my bittornado
[10:23] <SuseUX> ubuntu's Bttorrent is much better
[10:24] <Iam8up> i've been using azureus so much..i love it...but i'll check out ubuntu's bittorrent client
[10:24] <Iam8up> is it like any existing client?
[10:24] <tritium> Oversight: just like any other package.  it'll remove ubuntu-desktop, mind you, which you might want to reinstall when you upgrade to breezy
[10:24] <sorush20> cevizoglu: did I say something wrong, Answer why did everyone get upset?
[10:24] <kbrooks> Iam8up: try bittornado instead
[10:24] <SuseUX> it's just a simple interface tha downloads your torrent files
[10:25] <Iam8up> kbrooks - fuck no. NEVER
[10:25] <Oversight> if I reinstall ubuntu-desktop will it install evolution?
[10:25] <kbrooks> tritium: ubuntu-desktop is simply a metapackage
[10:25] <SuseUX> not the bloat of java and azurus
[10:25] <Iam8up> SuseUX - similar to that of utorrent?
[10:25] <tritium> kbrooks: yes
[10:25] <runedude> hey all, is there like a second mirror to archive.ubuntu.com, because it is really slow here
[10:25] <PaulNeb> Need help with the AMD64 Live disks. NE1?
[10:25] <runedude> US mirror preferred
[10:25] <kbrooks> Iam8up: please don't curse
[10:25] <nalioth> Iam8up: pleae watch your tongue
[10:25] <tritium> kbrooks: but when it's time to upgrade to breezy, it's important to have installed
[10:25] <Iam8up> ..sorry..?
[10:25] <SuseUX> Iam8up, not sure never used it
[10:25] <nalioth> PaulNeb: ask a question
[10:25] <Jedrick> where can i find bittorent files?
[10:25] <kbrooks> Iam8up: you cursed at me
[10:25] <sorush20> is anyone here updating their ubunut system or not..
[10:26] <wabble> SuseUX: it's better? Why?
[10:26] <SuseUX> sorush20, yes
[10:26] <Iam8up> kbrooks - not at you, at bittornado - i hate that client
[10:26] <tritium> sorush20: most likely everyone is
[10:26] <kbrooks> Iam8up: i love it
[10:26] <runedude> gah
[10:26] <runedude> 48kb/s :(
[10:26] <runedude> i want 600kb/s lol
[10:26] <Iam8up> i can't stand it =/
[10:26] <dr_willis> Jedrick,  http://www.legaltorrents.com/index.htm
[10:26] <kbrooks> how do i switch workspaces?
[10:26] <SuseUX> wabble, because it just downloads, thats all, dont give you a java interface and all that crap
[10:26] <jwd_> when you put it auto
[10:26] <LasseL> sorush20, I did, but it freezes on some old ati cards, if you have one of those
[10:26] <jwd_> what does lo mean?
[10:27] <kbrooks> jwd_: loopback
[10:27] <squidlarkin> so... i'm installing ubuntu for the first time and getting errors. this is the right place to ask for help, right?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> hell with a reg dsl connection my max is like 140kb/s
[10:27] <nalioth> kbrooks: click on your workspace pager at teh bottom right
[10:27] <LasseL> kbrooks, c+s+arrow
[10:27] <wabble> SuseUX: bittornado don't do java
[10:27] <PaulNeb> AMD64 causes a kernel panic.  Athelon 64 3200+, Chaintech S1689 MB (ULI chipset), 1GB RAM any suggestions?
[10:27] <LasseL> kbrooks, no, c+a+arrow
[10:27] <jwd_> is it necessary?
[10:27] <nalioth> LasseL: what is that?
[10:27] <SuseUX> wabble, never used it, i'm talking about azurus
[10:27] <tritium> jwd_: yes
[10:27] <joaquinz> hi people
[10:27] <joaquinz> i've two little problems with ubutnu
[10:27] <joaquinz> ubuntu
[10:27] <tritium> jwd_: set your other interface to auto so it's brought up at boot
[10:27] <wabble> SuseUX: ok, azureus east up your system
[10:27] <joaquinz> the first: when i try to activate vesafb
[10:27] <wabble> *eats
[10:28] <SuseUX> sure does
[10:28] <gokul> hi guys..i have some problems with ubuntu too (not to be a burden)
[10:28] <joaquinz> it doesnt work 100% correctly...
[10:28] <sorush20> SuseUX: I don't know what but I have updated the xserver packages a few times in the past week, I haven't keep track of their versions but have they been updated so quickly in the past week...
[10:28] <nalioth> gokul: ask
[10:28] <SuseUX> sorush20, I just install all the updates
[10:29] <joaquinz> at boot time, it shows me an error message about that it couldnt find the vesafb.ko module in /lib/module/2.6.12-9-k7/initrd
[10:29] <PaulNeb> Anyone ever get the AMD64 live disk to work with a Chaintech S1689 MB?
[10:29] <joaquinz> and then the fb works
[10:29] <SuseUX> I miss compiling :-)
[10:29] <gokul> Okay well the first thing was that it did'nt recognize a driver in Ubuntu..but that i'm guessing is that it wont recognize my joypay. Second I edited the config file for my moniter because it was stuck at 600 * 400 and now at random times it kicks out of graphics mode..
[10:29] <joaquinz> but usplash does not :(
[10:29] <joaquinz> what could be the problem?
[10:29] <sphivo> PaulNeb: What's it saying before the panic?
[10:29] <joaquinz> ??
[10:30] <squidlarkin> my installation is failing at random points. anyone have any ideas?
[10:30] <PaulNeb> sphivo:  Scrolls by too fast for me to read it and it's locked up afterwards. :-(
[10:30] <gokul> Could the problem have to do with my moniter? And next when i have my PCI Nvidia card as primary Ubuntu freaks out completly, so i have to switch to my AGP
[10:30] <gokul> is there any way to fix that
[10:31] <sphivo> PaulNeb: That always seems to be the case :)
[10:31] <SuseUX> why would you want to use PCI when you have AGP?
[10:31] <sphivo> PaulNeb: Have you tried booting with 'noapic'
[10:31] <gokul> The PCI is the new one, the AGP came with the computer
[10:31] <sphivo> ?
[10:32] <gokul> its an Intel 64 MB while the PCI is 128 mb
[10:32] <Dalkus> hi, i just instaled OO.org 1.5 and when I ask it to print a document (to a windows printer over the network) it gives no error, but nothing is printed. When I had 2.0 installed it printed fine
[10:32] <Dalkus> any tips?
[10:32] <gokul> MY computer has one AGP slot that was automatically taken by the computer when i got it (its emachines)
[10:32] <jwd_> NICE I think it worked!
[10:32] <PaulNeb> sphivo:  I've tried noapic and nolapic.  Still panics.
[10:32] <SuseUX> gokul, onboard AGP or card?
[10:32] <gokul> Onboard
[10:32] <SuseUX> then disable it
[10:33] <gokul> THe AGP?
[10:33] <SuseUX> in the bios
[10:33] <sorush20> guys I keep getting that the thunderbird packages can't be upgraded...
[10:33] <gokul> the AGP is the only one that works..the PCI Nvidia freak s out..and i want to use the NVIDIA one..
[10:33] <snet> hey people! i have two hard drives. one with ubuntu installed on it, and the other i want to use to store files on. how do i set up the second hard drive for that?
[10:33] <Rev-Marc> I want to turn off my touchpad and there is nothing in the bios, where would I do that in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <katzor> use synaptic to install qtparted, create a partition on it and mount it
[10:34] <gnomefreak> gokul: what suse is saying is for the installed card to work the onboard card has to be disabled
[10:34] <snet> katzor: thank you :-)
[10:34] <SuseUX> gokul, disable the onboard graphics in the bios, that should fix it
[10:34] <nalioth> snet: gparted is installed already
[10:34] <katzor> k
[10:34] <qatsi> hi all :) do anybody knows why i cant use ndiswrapper command ? i get the "unknown comand"....and yes, i have ndiswrapper installed....any ideas ? thanx
[10:34] <snet> also, i was wondering why when i type sudo apt-get install azureus, it cannot find it? i updated my repositories list to that on ubuntuguide.org
[10:34] <gokul> Gnomefreak: i know which is why i have to switch the primary card in my bios to the PCI and AGP when i am switching between Ubuntu and XP
[10:34] <gokul> is there any more i have to do
[10:35] <gokul> other than switch primary card?
[10:35] <sorush20> has everyone here moved to openoffice.org 2.. I think ubunut has stoped supporting the 1.1.5 is that right. .?
[10:35] <SuseUX> you just have to disable the onboard graphics, thats all
[10:35] <gnomefreak> breezy comes with oo2
[10:35] <AaronMT> 5.10 comes with 2.0
[10:35] <PaulNeb> G2G. BBL.
[10:35] <gokul> okay ill try that...the last thing i wanted to ask because i know this is really silly and im stupid but .rpm files, what do i need to open them?
[10:36] <SuseUX> gokul, I would'nt bother
[10:36] <gokul> why not?
[10:36] <SuseUX> because it's not a rpm distro
[10:36] <gokul> lol okay...ill do that later when i am more linux proficient
[10:37] <runedude> is it just me, or all the mirrors for ubuntu really slow :\
[10:37] <SuseUX> saves headaches
[10:37] <snet> why when i type sudo apt-get install azureus, it cannot find it? i updated my repositories list to that on ubuntuguide.org
[10:37] <gokul> alright then instead of that, i remember when i had suse linux and before it freaked on my and i quit linux for a while, suse could see what was on my windows partition
[10:37] <cevizoglu> runedude, it's just you
[10:37] <runedude> hmm
[10:37] <runedude> i get like 50kb/s
[10:37] <cevizoglu> runedude, I got 180 this morning
[10:37] <runedude> why cant i get like 500?
[10:37] <runedude> lol
[10:38] <cevizoglu> runedude, picked a faraway or bogged down mirror?  dunno
[10:38] <FrdPrefct> goku: Breezy read an NTFS partition off a USB disk I had without any problems.
[10:38] <runedude> i picked a us mirror
[10:38] <bimberi> popularity :)
[10:38] <runedude> the uk mirror is actually the same ip as the us mirror, strange enough :\
[10:38] <gnomefreak> runedude: the mirrors are being use by a bunch of ppl and it splits the bandwidth. if your running cable or dsl you will never get more than id say 200 out of it
[10:38] <SuseUX> why do you people even bother with that azurus, I understand it's a choice but a bad one at best
[10:39] <snet> SuseUX what else could i use for bit-torrent besides azureus?
[10:39] <Rev-Marc> what is "azurus"?
[10:39] <Dalkus> what options should I pass to 'lp'  if I want to print a .swx (open office text file) ?
[10:39] <Dalkus> *sxw
[10:39] <gnomefreak> theres a gnome torrent theres a ktorrent
[10:39] <SuseUX> snet, Bittorrent in the gnome menu
[10:40] <Rev-Marc> oh a torrent front end
[10:40] <runedude> its just kinda stupid
[10:40] <gnomefreak> theres a bittorrentado or something like that
[10:40] <runedude> they dont even have any us mirrors
[10:40] <snet> oh i see, thanks
[10:40] <cevizoglu> geez, it's azureus and bittornado
[10:40] <runedude> us.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.151
[10:40] <runedude> uk.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.151
[10:40] <runedude> same ip
[10:40] <SuseUX> snet, you just point it to your .torrent file and it brings up a nice small interface
[10:41] <dazzlindan> SuseUX, hey.. i found the package its gnome-art
[10:41] <gnomefreak> i love gnome art :)
[10:41] <SuseUX> that one that bring down suff from gnome art!
[10:41] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:41] <runedude> its almost like archive server is on a cable modem :\
[10:41] <SuseUX> yer, it was on gnomefiles.org
[10:42] <gnomefreak> it brings art.gnome.org to you
[10:42] <kwilcox> anyone know how to ubtain the sisctrl package in Breezy?
[10:42] <airxdres> I love GNOME xD
[10:42] <snet> this question isn't really related to ubuntu, but you guys are smart so many u can explain this. I have 2 SATA drives plugged in. during POST when i have only one of them plugged in it recognizes it as SDA. when both are plugged in, it displays them as IDE. should i be concerned?
[10:42] <jwd_> this is retarded
[10:42] <jwd_> now I get the login screen
[10:42] <jwd_> login and it hanfs
[10:42] <hwaara> test
[10:42] <jwd_> hangs rather
[10:42] <runedude> btw, would a debian etch go to ubuntu hoary fine?
[10:42] <FrdPrefct> runedude: Should be fairly easy.
[10:42] <runedude> ok
[10:42] <runedude> debian is pissing me OFF
[10:42] <runedude> lol
[10:43] <FrdPrefct> I'm an old debian user, but then, I admin many different flavors of linux
[10:43] <FrdPrefct> But, I didn't have a problem at all.
[10:43] <runedude> well, see, its just the stuff i want to do, debian is just not working well with it
[10:43] <gnomefreak> it pissed me off too thats why i now use ubuntu
[10:43] <FrdPrefct> I couldn't stand debians release cycle
[10:43] <runedude> even windows gives me a better experience than debian would
[10:43] <FrdPrefct> runedude: what problems are you having?
[10:43] <kbrooks> FrdPrefct: release cycle?
[10:44] <kbrooks> FrdPrefct: define.
[10:44] <runedude> FrdPrefct: stuff like dns issues, ipv6 tunnels, bind9
[10:44] <FrdPrefct> debian seems to make a better server than desktop.
[10:44] <sphivo> jwd_: Hangs during the splash screen?
[10:44] <runedude> bsd 4 life :)
[10:44] <jwd_> I get the login screen
[10:44] <FrdPrefct> kbrooks: They are behind on software updates, while, possibly good reasons, it irritates me.
[10:44] <jwd_> than I login
[10:44] <jwd_> and it sits there
[10:44] <SuseUX> runedude, Windows six year release cycle now :-)
[10:44] <FrdPrefct> They are slow to get certain things out there.
[10:44] <runedude> i dont care
[10:44] <runedude> xp > debian
[10:44] <jwd_> I hit ctr alt backspace
[10:44] <runedude> lol
[10:44] <runedude> btw
[10:44] <kbrooks> ubuntu makes a better desktop than server
[10:44] <runedude> after i am done the um
[10:44] <FrdPrefct> ewwwwwwwwwww, di'nt say that
[10:44] <jwd_> brings me back to the login screen
[10:44] <runedude> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to go to the hoary packages, what should i do?
[10:45] <vengeful> i cant see why anyone would want to use ubuntu for a server, tbh
[10:45] <runedude> i used ubuntu for a server, twas fine
[10:45] <kbrooks> vengeful: its possible
[10:45] <FrdPrefct> It has it's uses.
[10:45] <kbrooks> vengeful: server install
[10:45] <runedude> freebsd is the best server platform though
[10:45] <vengeful> freebsd, centos
[10:45] <FrdPrefct> YOu can do a server install.
[10:45] <vengeful> dont need anything else for servers
[10:45] <FrdPrefct> nah, freebsd is behind on smp
[10:45] <runedude> i havent seen linux outperform freebsd at anything
[10:45] <runedude> except maybe its desktop/X support
[10:46] <SuseUX> vengeful, Any distro can be a server, thats a bit of a weird question
[10:46] <vengeful> sure it can
[10:46] <vengeful> but can it be a good server
[10:46] <vengeful> :-P
[10:46] <spiral> hello again...
[10:46] <SuseUX> vengeful, if you set it up right yer
[10:46] <spiral> just rebooted a few minutes ago after an apt-get update...
[10:46] <spiral> and I don't get X working...
[10:46] <SuseUX> vengeful, Windows is a crap desktop but if you set it up right it's fine :-)
[10:47] <runedude> FrdPrefct: just kinda annoying.. you finally get debian on a server, and i try to do stuff, and it doesnt work, and those are the only things i wanted the server for
[10:47] <spiral> it complains about libfb.a which doesn't seem to contain any symbol
[10:47] <spiral> does anyone know what I should do ?
[10:47] <spiral> I precise : breezy
[10:47] <SuseUX> hehe
[10:47] <gnomefreak> once i found out linux is free to download and it does the same as windows and more windows got thrown away
[10:48] <SuseUX> lol
[10:48] <SuseUX> nice
[10:48] <sphivo> jwd_: Sorry, don't know what it could be.  I thought you were describing a hard-lock bug I've seen, but if you can ctrl-alt-bksp, it's probably not related.
[10:48] <spiral> please help me !!
[10:48] <magnusthe> I'm having some problems taming the HAL beast... anyone around who could help?
[10:48] <snet> hey; i just tried using qtparted on my second brand=new harddrive, and qtparted crashes on me saying Error: Unable to open /dev/hdd - unrecognised disk label. errore!   what's goin' on?
[10:48] <SuseUX> magnusthe, whats wrong with HAL?
[10:49] <starscalling> yay more crazy questions!
[10:49] <jwd_> does windowmaker come standard with ubuntu?
[10:49] <bur[n] er> jwd_: nope
[10:49] <bur[n] er> jwd_: gnome & metacity do
[10:49] <gnomefreak> snet: check the bios see if they see it
[10:49] <jwd_> apt-get?
[10:49] <starscalling> i installed cvs, then grabbed a cvs module. where is the sucker so i can ./configure && make && make install ??
[10:49] <ScatterBrain> quit cd~
[10:49] <bur[n] er> jwd_: apt-gettable, yes
[10:49] <magnusthe> SuseUX gnome-volume-manager is a little too aggressive in mounting partitions on my USB stick, AFAICS HAL is the way to prevent it... but I can't get it to work
[10:49] <bur[n] er> jwd_: via universe though
[10:49] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get windowmaker
[10:49] <gnomefreak> install*
[10:50] <jwd_> i can't believ ethis crao
[10:50] <bur[n] er> jwd_: it's apt-get install wmaker... not windowmaker
[10:50] <zkmaster> hi all - I had a question - how do i check what version of GTK+ I have installed
[10:50] <SuseUX> magnusthe, aggressive?, in what way?
[10:50] <runedude> hmm
[10:50] <spiral> am I the only one who got this bug ?
[10:50] <jwd_> it logged in until I got the network interface correct
[10:50] <gnomefreak> oh opps sowwy
[10:50] <runedude> what would be a sign that the transition from debian to ubuntu worked?
[10:50] <snet> gnomefreak: well sudo fdisk -l says: Disk /dev/hdd doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:50] <bur[n] er> runedude: you'd see an ubuntu icon on the "applications" menu
[10:51] <snet> gnomefreak: it recognizes the hd on post, is that what u'r asking?
[10:51] <runedude> nono
[10:51] <runedude> i dont have X
[10:51] <runedude> this is thru ssh only
[10:51] <gnomefreak> yes
[10:51] <bur[n] er> runedude: oh... got me then ;)
[10:51] <magnusthe> SuseUX, it mounts the device (dev/sdb in my case) as well as both partitions (/dev/sdb{1,2})... how do I convince it to leave /dev/sdb unmounted?
[10:51] <bur[n] er> runedude: just trust it is ;)
[10:51] <runedude> lol :p
[10:51] <runedude> i trust its not debian, it finally did something right
[10:51] <jwd_> is there a gnome log?
[10:51] <bur[n] er> aww... don't trash debian ;)
[10:52] <snet> gnomefreak: any suggestions on my qtparted error?
[10:52] <RockyBurt> hm, anyone happen to know why my flash refuses to play any sounds in firefox (ubuntu breezy) ?
[10:52] <zkmaster> how do i check what version of GTK+ I have installed - I don't see it listed in synaptic PM, but I see things that require GTK are already installed
[10:52] <SuseUX> magnusthe, I dont follow, usb sticks use fat16!
[10:52] <runedude> bur[n] er: :( i've had nothing but problems w/ it
[10:52] <SuseUX> usually!
[10:52] <jrattner1> qtk
[10:52] <magnusthe> SuseUX, I have a USB stick that I ran cfdisk on... two partitions, one vfat, one ext3
[10:53] <jrattner1> gtk-query-immodules-2.0
[10:53] <spiral> isn't there really anybody who could at least tell me someone's reading what I say ?
[10:53] <bur[n] er> runedude: sorry to hear that... but debian is ubuntu's roots!  gotta appreciate it like you appreciate elderly ;)
[10:53] <runedude> :\
[10:53] <runedude> lol
[10:53] <cevizoglu> runedude, you want to do "cat /etc/issue"
[10:53] <bimberi> spiral
[10:53] <gnomefreak> snet ive never seen that error before that i can remember
[10:53] <runedude> cevizoglu: it says debian :\
[10:53] <jrattner1> spiral, whats your problem
[10:53] <zkmaster> jrattner1: thanks!
[10:53] <snet> gnomefreak: okay thanks anyways
[10:54] <jrattner1> zkmaster, welcome
[10:54] <spiral> jrattner1 & bimberi : recently apt-get updated my breezy laptop, and now X doesn't want to launch...
[10:54] <SuseUX> magnusthe, dont know then, sound like soemthing you did yourself
[10:54] <jrattner1> spiral, what does X error log say?
[10:54] <jrattner1> spindley, any EE or WW?
[10:54] <spiral> when I launch it via startx, I get a message that tells me that libfb.o doesn't contain any symbol
[10:54] <OsvaldoGago> exit
[10:55] <magnusthe> SuseUX, yupp, sure did... but how do I get HAL to respect my whishes? I can use it to change the "label" it uses to mount it (i.e. the name it shows on the desktop), but I just can't stop the mounting altogether :(
[10:55] <robotgeek> spiral: try not loading the module in your xorg.conf
[10:55] <hwaara> can someone help me? I've been struggling with this building problem since yesterday basically. I am trying to build mozilla/thunderbird, and it stops when it comes to xremoteclient, some submodule. with these error-messages:
[10:55] <hwaara> XRemoteClient_standalone.o: I funktionen "XRemoteClient::CheckChildren(unsigned long)":
[10:55] <hwaara> .../widget/src/xremoteclient/XRemoteClient.cpp:292: undefined reference to `XQueryTree'
[10:55] <hwaara> .../XRemoteClient.cpp:301: undefined reference to `XGetWindowProperty'
[10:55] <hwaara> .../XRemoteClient.cpp:303: undefined reference to `XFree'
[10:55] <hwaara> .../XRemoteClient.cpp:314: undefined reference to `XFre
[10:55] <jrattner1> spiral cat /var/log/X.org.0.log |grep EE > Xerrors then post the contents of Xerrors on pastebin
[10:55] <robotgeek> hwaara: don't paste in here
[10:55] <hwaara> (sorry for the spam)   stuff like that.
[10:55] <bur[n] er> hwaara: use that paste thing in the topic
[10:55] <spiral> robotgeek: it's not in my xorg.conf :-/
[10:56] <hwaara> bur[n] er, oh ok, sorry.
[10:56] <nalioth> hwaara: please dont paste in here
[10:56] <bur[n] er> hwaara: this may be silly, why you building it anyway
[10:56] <ThePyromaniac> hey, anyone know how to use visiualboy advance, or set up gnomeboyadvance? :/
[10:56] <Iam8up> what does LVM stand for? ubuntu ask me several options for partitioning my drives and one of the options is to partition it using LVM
[10:56] <hwaara> bur[n] er, it's automatically built as part of the rest.
[10:56] <FrdPrefct> Logival Volume Manager
[10:56] <magnusthe> SuseUX, even there were only one partition, how would I turn off the mounting of it (i.e. not mounting a specific USB stick), I still want all other sticks to mount...
[10:56] <jrattner1> spiral, explain more about what goes wrong
[10:56] <nalioth> Iam8up: logical volume manager
[10:56] <magnusthe> ?
[10:56] <hwaara> bur[n] er, required it seems.  I have xlib-dev package already
[10:56] <FrdPrefct> Lets you resize the partitions on the fly
[10:56] <jrattner1> ok i see now
[10:56] <jrattner1> i didnt see what you said before
[10:56] <Iam8up> afraid of that...
[10:57] <Iam8up> what option do you think i should do?
[10:57] <spiral> jrattner1: I shall put my Xorg.0.log file on a ftp of mine...
[10:57] <runedude> hmm
[10:57] <snet> my harddisk was physically moved to a different IDE cable, the one with ubuntu installed on it. so when Grub loads i get error 5, because it used to be at sda1, now its at hdc1. how can i fix grub?
[10:57] <robotgeek> spiral: hmm..it sounds like the framebuffer module or something, not sure
[10:57] <hwaara> bur[n] er, that is what I have done already. or what do you mean? it is installed via synaptic.
[10:57] <runedude> when sshing, i get this error
[10:57] <runedude> Permission denied (publickey).
[10:57] <jrattner1> spiral, super
[10:57] <apoZ`> Hi, anybody got a good downloadprogram for Ubuntu ???
[10:57] <SuseUX> magnusthe, I sec
[10:57] <bur[n] er> hwaara: you said "building" so I assume you meant compiling it
[10:57] <SuseUX> 1 second
[10:57] <magnusthe> SuseUX, ok
[10:57] <hwaara> bur[n] er, right.
[10:57] <robotgeek> apoZ`: d4x
[10:57] <spiral> http://thespiral.free.fr/Xorg.0.log
[10:58] <jwd_> could be that I haven't run apt-get- dist-upgrade
[10:58] <jwd_> 475 upgrades
[10:58] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  where to find ?
[10:58] <robotgeek> apoZ`: synaptic
[10:58] <spiral> if anyone can check it and help me find out what the hell is going on...
[10:58] <robotgeek> !info d4x
[10:58] <bur[n] er> hwaara: i don't get it... you just said synaptic... synaptic would not be "compiling" it
[10:58] <ubotu> d4x: (graphical download manager), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.5.0rel-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1164 kB, Installed size: 2844 kB
[10:58] <hwaara> bur[n] er, it seems like it's missing lots of x-something symbols. and I can't figure out what I'm missing.
[10:58] <aalih> how can i open a file in gedit from a ftp server without defining it before as a 'connected server'??
[10:58] <apoZ`> !info d4x
[10:58] <spiral> jrattner1: I gave the adress... hope you can help
[10:58] <apoZ`> ?
[10:58] <runedude> any reason why i get that?
[10:58] <runedude> the "permission denied (publickey)." error
[10:58] <hwaara> bur[n] er, I am trying to compile the mozilla trunk, but it stops with that error.
[10:58] <runedude> when i try to ssh :P lol
[10:58] <SuseUX> magnusthe, you could change the policies in /etc/hal
[10:58] <andrejkw> Hello ;)
[10:58] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  what do you mean
[10:59] <magnusthe> SuseUX, how?
[10:59] <hwaara> bur[n] er, I first assumed the problem was I was missing xlib-dev, so I apt-getted it. but still same problem
[10:59] <robotgeek> apoZ`: you can get it via synaptic, or apt-get. it's in the universe repository
[10:59] <SuseUX> magnusthe, i'm not to familier with it, there is a file in /fdi
[10:59] <spiral> maybe is it either a problem with /dev or devfs, some devices don't exist any more in /dev... :-/
[10:59] <spiral> udev sorry
[10:59] <El_Che> any idea if you can copy the thesaurus from staroffice to openoffice?
[10:59] <jrattner1> spiral, are you using flgx?
[11:00] <aalih> using the ftp uri in the open file dialog give an error as if gedit tried to open the file /home/myuser/ftp%3A%2F%2Fmyserver...
[11:00] <spiral> jrattner1: I don't find this in my xorg.conf, and I have a nvidia card with the nvidia driver installed via the .run file
[11:00] <magnusthe> SuseUX, yes, I've been playing with it... I've managed to use it to change the label (volume.label), but I don't know what to change in order to prevent gnome-volume-manager to mount the damn thing
[11:00] <andrejkw> I have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?
[11:00] <RockyBurt> lol, i just started listening to a podcast via an embedded flash player and the player is playing the podcast in fast-motion, the guy sounds like a chipmunk, anyone ever seen this? (ubuntu breezy)
[11:01] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  I can't find it, specify ?
[11:01] <spiral> jrattner1: just uploaded my xorg.conf : http://thespiral.free.fr/xorg.conf
[11:01] <robotgeek> !tell apoZ` about repos
[11:01] <jrattner1> spiral, I'm not sure if that method works for installing NVIDIA drivers on ubuntu, they suggest a different approach https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29%7C%28binary%29%7C%28driver%29
[11:01] <SuseUX> magnusthe, tell it not not mount drives, it that what you mean?
[11:01] <SuseUX> gnoem-volume manager?
[11:01] <spiral> jrattner1: I know, but I can't because I need a home-built kernel, and it worked fine for the last 30 days...
[11:01] <robotgeek> apoZ`: add the universe repository and then 'apt-get install d4x' in a terminal
[11:02] <spiral> jrattner1: just suddenly broke out today
[11:02] <magnusthe> SuseUX, nope not quite, tell it not to mount a specific device
[11:02] <jrattner1> spiral, to be honest I dont know, and there's no odd errors or warnings, did you change anything pertinent today?
[11:02] <runedude> hmm
[11:02] <sockpuppe1> is vlc 0.8.2 in any of the repis
[11:02] <runedude> maybe im invisible
[11:02] <sockpuppe1> repo's?
[11:02] <spiral> jrattner1: except the apt-get update, nothing...
[11:02] <andrejkw> Anyone?
[11:02] <robotgeek> sockpuppe1: hoary or breezy, x86/ppc?
[11:02] <jrattner1> hmm
[11:02] <sockpuppe1> hoary
[11:02] <jrattner1> spiral, im not sure to be honest
[11:02] <Weems> Is there a way to add a networked printer on ubuntu breezy?
[11:03] <SuseUX> magnusthe, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fhal
[11:03] <spiral> and I can't even try to relaunch the installation of nvidia because this damn driver keeps telling me X is still working :-/
[11:03] <aalih> ok let's try another :)
[11:03] <SuseUX> try that
[11:03] <apoZ`> Can't find D4X in synaptic
[11:03] <robotgeek> apoZ`: it's 'd4x' small letters
[11:03] <aalih> how can i change the icon used by nautilus to represent some file type??
[11:03] <bimberi> spiral: i've been having a look but i don't know sorry.  Perhaps try reconfiguring the X server "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (libfb might sounds like something to do with the FrameBuffer bit so try disabling that)
[11:03] <robotgeek> !tell sockpuppe1 about vlc
[11:03] <apoZ`> tried it
[11:04] <andrejkw> I have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?
[11:04] <jrattner1> brb
[11:04] <magnusthe> SuseUX, ah, the HAL spec, thanks!
[11:04] <MRAdraz> Hi, im currently using Fedora core but have been looking at Ubuntu, is it worth swapping over?
[11:04] <ThePyromaniac> QUESTION Any idea why sound juicer freezes on certain songs?
[11:04] <sockpuppe1> vlc 0.8.1 is in the hoary repos
[11:04] <djm62> ThePyromaniac: is your CD particularly scratched?
[11:04] <robotgeek> apoZ`: did you add the repositories?
[11:04] <SuseUX> aalih, right click it, properities
[11:04] <spiral> bimberi: when I did this, the damn stuff refused to launch because of DPS-0 which didn't manage to find an available display :-/
[11:04] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  what are repositories ? (not englisch)
[11:04] <sockpuppe1> and another question, is it better for me to do a dist-upgrade or install breezy from cd?
[11:05] <ThePyromaniac> djm62 brand new and happens on many
[11:05] <darkheart> MRAdraz Seems to be a bit strange of a question to ask in #ubuntu.
[11:05] <bam_> anyone got exult to work?
[11:05] <aalih> SuseUX, that's only change the icon fot that file, i need to change the icon for all files of that type
[11:05] <robotgeek> apoZ`: did you read the link which ubotu sent you? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:05] <djm62> ThePyromaniac: permanent freeze or temporary?
[11:05] <hwaara> Ok, my build error when trying to build mozilla is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2978 . I have xlib-dev already, but it seems like it's missing something like that no? anyone got any ideas/hints ?
[11:05] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, its good for ubuntu if you do the dist-upgrade..and good for you if you do clean install :)
[11:05] <qatsi> ahhhh i love kopete :) the window isnt blinking on every message, only the ones who contains my name :p
[11:05] <SuseUX> aalih, /.icons  and change the icon there
[11:05] <ThePyromaniac> djm62 window locks up and i have to pkill
[11:06] <Iam8up> can anyone explain the "logical volume manager" - wiki seems to be lacking here
[11:06] <ThePyromaniac> if i do a dif track it works
[11:06] <aalih> the latest gnome users guide mention a file type preferences tool but i have been unable to find it on ubuntu breezy
[11:06] <djm62> ThePyromaniac: anything special about the tracks?
[11:06] <runedude> anyone know why i get "Permission denied (publickey)." right before i type in my ssh password?
[11:06] <aalih> SuseUX, i'll try that
[11:06] <ThePyromaniac> djm62 nope, just a White Zombie, straight from HMV and ripping to ogg vorbis
[11:06] <ThePyromaniac> i done loadsa disks
[11:06] <SuseUX> aalih, find your icon theme in there and just overwrite the mimetype icon
[11:06] <sockpuppe1> mustard 5 so I should Install from cd?
[11:06] <djm62> copy protected in any way?
[11:06] <Boze> Success, I am new to irc, usually just use icq and such.
[11:06] <delire> djm62: my thoughts also..
[11:06] <mustard5> is it going to hurt anything?
[11:07] <andrejkw> I have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?\
[11:07] <runedude> anyone know? :\
[11:07] <aalih> SuseUX, i don't have that dir, what supposed to go in there?
[11:07] <delire> ThePyromaniac: White Zombie's not put out by Sony BMG by any chance ; ) ?
[11:07] <djm62> ThePyromaniac: some CDs are copy protected...I don't know what voodoo dey do, but it sounds suspicious to me
[11:07] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, I like clean installs myself
[11:07] <mustard5> but there is all that setting up to do afterwards
[11:07] <sockpuppe1> well then i guess its settled mustard!
[11:07] <SuseUX> aalih, it's a hidden one in your /home/username directory
[11:08] <Boze> can anyone tell me if its possible to dual boot ubuntu with anotehr linux distro?
[11:08] <ThePyromaniac> i had it on a green day and something else. i have ripped ALL songs from green day other than the last
[11:08] <starscalling> i need a little help please? bash says ./configure is not a known command, what can i do to fix that?
[11:08] <sockpuppe1> heey mustard know how toget vlc 0.8.2 running on ubuntu?
[11:08] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  URL not working
[11:08] <djm62> starscalling: are you in the right directory?
[11:08] <ThePyromaniac> also a friend did a copied cd, and it freezes on the last 2 seconds of the final song, lol
[11:08] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, nooo! :)
[11:08] <mustard5> hehe
[11:08] <mustard5> no idea
[11:08] <runedude> no one knows?
[11:08] <starscalling> yeah im inside the directory of the cvs i grabbed.
[11:09] <aalih> SuseUX, is empty
[11:09] <magnusthe> SuseUX, thanks, I've gotten some more ideas of how to do it... just have to wait until I'm at _my_ computer again, tomorrow
[11:09] <djm62> and is the file in that directory called "configure" chmod-ed +x?
[11:09] <SuseUX> magnusthe, :-)
[11:09] <starscalling> am i supposed to use it like " ./configure <somefilename> " ?
[11:09] <SuseUX> aalih, what icon theme are you using?
[11:09] <robotgeek> apoZ`: works for me!
[11:09] <mustard5> doing the dist-upgrade is good for ubuntu I think because it helps debug the upgrade process
[11:09] <djm62> starscalling: nope, usually just ./configure, but the file configure needs to be executable
[11:09] <aalih> SuseUX, clearlooks
[11:10] <djm62> btw, thanks to any devs in here...the upgrade process was pretty damn smooth, and breezy has plenty goodness :)
[11:10] <andrejkw> I have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?
[11:10] <starscalling> config.h.w32  config.rpath  configure.in are the three files i have in that directory, should i do something else?
[11:10] <apoZ`> robotgeek, not here
[11:10] <sockpuppe1> andrejkw thats really weird
[11:10] <djm62> starscalling: yes
[11:10] <starscalling> there is a make file, and when i tried using that it said:make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile.am'
[11:10] <SuseUX> aalih, /usr/share/icons/
[11:10] <delire> starscalling: 'chmod +x configure' then './configure' will do the trick.
[11:10] <djm62> autoconf
[11:10] <starscalling> ok!
[11:11] <djm62> starscalling: autoconf first, since you have no ./configure
[11:11] <starscalling> what does the chmod +x configure mean?
[11:11] <ThePyromaniac> anyone here use visualboyadvance?
[11:11] <andrejkw> I think that is since he's VNCing the PC :\
[11:11] <sockpuppe1> pyromaniac I did a while ago
[11:11] <jrattner1> is openoffice 2.0 snapshot in breezy?
[11:11] <starscalling> so: audoconf <enter> chmod +x configure ?
[11:11] <delire> starscalling: oh, you have no ./configure, then yes djm62 is right, 'autoconf'
[11:11] <ThePyromaniac> sockpuppel did you use a gui or terminal?
[11:11] <starscalling> *autoconf < ok!
[11:11] <starscalling> and is there a way to install configure for the future?
[11:11] <sockpuppe1> gui it was on 888dows
[11:11] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  url doesn't work
[11:11] <robotgeek> apoZ`: might be something with your settings or internet connection. i tried again, and the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto works!
[11:12] <djm62> starscalling: autoconf installs configure
[11:12] <SuseUX> aalih, just for future messure, new icon sets are in /.icons
[11:12] <ThePyromaniac> would you know HOW to use terminal?
[11:12] <delire> starscalling: configure is a script generated on a project by project basis.
[11:12] <ThePyromaniac> i cant get any guis working
[11:12] <apoZ`> omg
[11:12] <djm62> starscalling: configure is a script, autoconf generates it from configure.in
[11:12] <apoZ`> don't tell me i don't got a proper internet
[11:12] <sockpuppe1> well let me install on linux and ill try to help
[11:12] <apoZ`> i can connect every bloody server except your shit
[11:12] <apoZ`> you even made it crash
[11:12] <ThePyromaniac> sockpuppel i was trying gnomeboyadvance btw ^^
[11:13] <spiral> jrattner1 : finally found it...
[11:13] <starscalling> o boy
[11:13] <spiral> I disabled all extensions & managed to start X
[11:13] <spiral> then I stopped it, reinstalled nvidia driver & that went nice this time
[11:13] <aalih> SuseUX, clearlooks is an standard theme, at least in breezy
[11:14] <orugo> yeah
[11:14] <djm62> one last thing to iron out on breezy: how come I'm not getting my splash image on boot?  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) doesn't find a splash image
[11:14] <orugo> now im registered
[11:14] <orugo> i need help!
[11:14] <delire> djm62: AFAIK there is a 'no splash
[11:14] <orugo> how do i mount my windows partition
[11:14] <delire> djm62: a 'no-splash' bounty in breezy.
[11:14] <orugo> ?
[11:14] <apoZ`> robotgeek, now you run away ?
[11:14] <SuseUX> aalih, yes but the icons set is gnome
[11:15] <starscalling> delire, or djm62 mind looking in flood for a second? i get errors and i have NO clue what im doing sorry
[11:15] <orugo> in kubunut
[11:15] <robotgeek> apoZ`: no, i am still here.
[11:15] <bam_> nobody installed exult yet?
[11:15] <andrejkw> I have a friend that works on my PC through VNC. But this morning I woke up and he complained to me that he received an error that said "Cold not grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session." while trying to change some system settings. He said it completly disabled his mouse. Is there a way to disable this?
[11:15] <nalioth> orugo: there is a #kubuntu channel
[11:15] <orugo> tks
[11:15] <djm62> delire: pardon? a _no_-splash bounty?
[11:15] <apoZ`> robotgeek, you just made my system crash
[11:15] <KurtKraut> Hi. I've just installed ubuntu and I'm enjoying it a lot. I would like to listen to an SHOUTCAST radio, and usually I use XMMS for that, but this is not included on ubuntu. How should I use apt to download/install XMMS ?
[11:16] <pupil> ohh,. nifty
[11:16] <delire> djm62: yes, i'd heard there were moves to remove it.
[11:16] <pupil> thats why I went to unregged
[11:16] <aalih> SuseUX, ok, so what file i must change?? i changed xchm in /usr/lib/mime/packages/xchm and added the option x11-bitmap
[11:16] <robotgeek> apoZ`: hmm...opening url's should not cause your system to crash! i don't know what is wrong!
[11:16] <djm62> delire: :( shame, I'm a sucker for slickness.  know what the problem was?
[11:17] <aalih> according to man update-mime that's the way to change an icon for a file type
[11:17] <HatchetDawg> so... BMP is a nice player for my audio .... any recomendations on a multimedia player (current top pick of mine is xine-ui)
[11:17] <aalih> but it doesn't work
[11:17] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  how can i shutdown my mozilla
[11:17] <SuseUX> aalih, no just the icon in /usr/share/icons/gnome/size/mime
[11:17] <pupil> nalioth, this make is taking forever,.
[11:17] <Boze> Will hoary automatically upgrade to breezy, or wil I need to reinstall?
[11:17] <delire> djm62: there's something about it here.. though i can't find the original reference: http://aggrssive.olt.ubc.ca/viewItems.php?fID=1558
[11:17] <talisein> so what do i need to do to get Breezy to find my usb stick?
[11:17] <magnusthe> KurtKraut, xmms is in hoary
[11:17] <djm62> starscalling: you don't need sudo the autoconf
[11:17] <pupil> nalioth, but as long as it works out,. I'll be happy
[11:17] <Xenguy> apoZ`: is mozilla 'frozen' ?
[11:17] <robotgeek> HatchetDawg: though it's kde, i recommend amarok with xine engine...very very slick!
[11:17] <talisein> modprobe usb_storage didn't seem to find it
[11:17] <aalih> SuseUX, i'll try that, thx
[11:17] <apoZ`> yes
[11:17] <magnusthe> KurtKraut, in universe that is
[11:18] <delire> djm62: sorry, heare is easier to find: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/gnome/1128486649
[11:18] <nalioth> Xenguy: for breezy it is frozen, yes
[11:18] <sockpuppe1> Pyromaniac i ran into a snag
[11:18] <ThePyromaniac> new question, can i use the 32 bit kernel on 64 bit so it will work with wine?
[11:18] <djm62> delire: cheers
[11:18] <chinn> i've just installed ubuntu, i went through GRUB, boot sequence, login screen, entered my login & password, it accepts it, i get the ubuntu image and startup sound, but then it jitters a bit and i think it locks up. I suspected this after a 5 minute wait and no HD light flashing
[11:18] <Xenguy> apoZ`: you can do this command-line: ps aux |grep mozilla
[11:18] <delire> djm62: "the "No Splash Screen in 2.14" challenge laid down by Luis" et al.
[11:18] <Xenguy> apoZ`: then kill all the PID's the are listed
[11:18] <KurtKraut> magnusthe: any other software suggestion in order to listen to SHOUTCAST readios ?
[11:18] <sockpuppe1> what is libatk-bridge?
[11:18] <Xenguy> nalioth: tx - was trying to help someone else with something
[11:19] <SuseUX> KurtKraut, streatuner is awesome
[11:19] <djm62> delire: oh! that's damn slick too, but I meant the usplash stuff
[11:19] <SuseUX> KurtKraut, streamtuner
[11:19] <Xenguy> apoZ`: e.g. -> kill -9 <pid#?> <pid#>
[11:19] <KurtKraut> SuseUX, I'm a linux newbie... what should I type in order to get that thru apt ?
[11:19] <delire> djm62: oh hehe sorry ;)
[11:19] <magnusthe> KurtKraut, actually I don't really listen to shoutcast... not on broadband (damn BT)... have you taken a look at rhythmbox, it's the default sound player
[11:20] <starscalling> djm62,  when i tried not using sudo it still said "autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: Permission denied"
[11:20] <SuseUX> KurtKraut, if it's there then sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[11:20] <KurtKraut> magnusthe: yes, I've checked it and it only plays local files, not streamed audio
[11:20] <The_Vox> anybody got a clue what the xubuntu-artwork stuff is?
[11:20] <djm62> starscalling: that's because you've put a load of files in the dir as root now
[11:20] <Iam8up> could someone tell me where a suggested partition size for ubuntu is? or how well the basics is here: http://pw1.netcom.com/~kmself/Linux/FAQs/partition.html#basicrec
[11:20] <[LethAL] > Artwork for XFCE
[11:20] <apoZ`> Xenguy, See pm
[11:20] <KurtKraut> SuseUX, I dont think so: E: Couldn't find package streamtuner
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell KurtKraut about apt-get
[11:21] <djm62> starscalling: can you untar it again (you might need to sudo to rm the old directory)
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell KurtKraut about synaptic
[11:21] <SuseUX> KurtKraut, just run synaptic and seach
[11:21] <magnusthe> KurtKraut, sure? I vaguely remember internet radio being on its list of features
[11:21] <The_Vox> [LethAL] : ah! k, that makes sense :)
[11:21] <[LethAL] > :)
[11:21] <apoZ`> Xenguy, where is the commandline
[11:21] <Xenguy> apoZ`: you should always ask before you PM - that's "etiquette" :-)
[11:21] <SuseUX> streamtuner blows them all out of the water :-0
[11:21] <apoZ`> Xenguy, do not whine
[11:21] <KurtKraut> nalioth, thanks for the help. I will read these documentations.
[11:21] <Xenguy> apoZ`: invoke a terminal (right-click, terminal)
[11:22] <Xenguy> apoZ`: take good advice when it is offered
[11:22] <djm62> starscalling: and you should apparently be using m4_pattern_allow
[11:22] <Xenguy> apoZ`: since you need us more than we need you =)
[11:22] <sockpuppe1> Ok folks I think that there is a bug with gnomeboyadvance
[11:22] <sockpuppe1> or im doing something wrong
[11:22] <apoZ`> Xenguy, do you want to help or humiliate me ?
[11:22] <jrattner1> how do you restart the kicker in KDE again?
[11:23] <Xenguy> apoZ`: I'm trying to help, and educate -- that's all
[11:23] <SuseUX> just run command kicker
[11:23] <robotgeek> apoZ`: we want to help
[11:23] <djm62> :))) beagle is <expletive deleted> brilliant
[11:23] <zoot_> hi - have upgraded to the latest -686 kernel and want to remove the -386 kernels, but synaptic wants to upgrade the existing -386 (forom breezy preview cd) to the latest -386. how can i remove them without upgrading them when i already have the -686 optimized one installed? seems like a bug to me.
[11:24] <seethru> zoot_: why don't you want to remove the ones you aren't using?
[11:24] <jrattner1> SuseUX, i want to restart it
[11:24] <robotgeek> zoot_: you might want to hold on to your optimized kernel. i'll bring up the command in a moment
[11:24] <starscalling> ok so delete the old cvs directory it made and grab it again! i can do that!
[11:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hi everyone
[11:24] <apoZ`> Xenguy, I typed ps aux |grep mozilla in task in New Starter
[11:24] <apoZ`> but nothin'
[11:24] <zoot_> seethru: that's what i want to do, read my post again
[11:24] <zoot_> robotgeek: thx
[11:24] <starscalling> as for the m4_pattern_allow i can just use that as an extra switch after i use the autoconf command then?
[11:25] <SuseUX> jrattner1, is it running now?
[11:25] <Xenguy> apoZ`: good news - there are no rogue mozilla processes then
[11:25] <nalioth> apoZ`: Xenguy is watching out for you. there are some nicks (not in here) that if you /msg them, bad things happen
[11:25] <jrattner1> SuseUX, yes
[11:25] <SuseUX> jrattner1, killall kicker
[11:25] <djm62> starscalling: just looking that up myself...I eschew CVS these days
[11:25] <starscalling> o.O
[11:25] <jrattner1> thanks
[11:25] <apoZ`> nalioth, bad things ? omg freaks orso
[11:25] <starscalling> well it has all the features that i want in the cvs of this one program.. im sorry to put ya through this.. but thakyou a lot for the help
[11:25] <sockpuppe1> nalioth think you could help?
[11:25] <apoZ`> Xenguy, so what's the problem then ?
[11:26] <TylerDurden> does anyone use point2play?
[11:26] <Xenguy> apoZ`: what do you want to do that you cannot then?
[11:26] <apoZ`> just shut the thing down
[11:26] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: with what?
[11:26] <SuseUX> TylerDurden, sort of
[11:26] <apoZ`> huh
[11:26] <sockpuppe1> libatk-bridge
[11:26] <robotgeek> zoot_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto . read the part "wrapping it all up -> hold that kernel"
[11:26] <SuseUX> :-)
[11:26] <TylerDurden> how come css plays SOOOOO slow
[11:26] <apoZ`> Xenguy, ok it worked
[11:26] <TylerDurden> i get about 5 fps in stress
[11:26] <apoZ`> Xenguy, it's gone
[11:26] <zone17> Hi, I have just finished installing kubuntu 5.10 on a laptop, doing "xorgconfig" results in command not found, what am I doing wrong?
[11:26] <TylerDurden> but in windows it works fine. and my drivers r installed currectly
[11:26] <Xenguy> apoZ`: there ya go :-)
[11:27] <ThePyromaniac> ANYone here managed to get gnomeboyadvanced working here? help me n sockpuppel out ^^
[11:27] <elad`> How do I edit shortcuts (KDE) to open a certain application maximized?
[11:27] <Xenguy> nalioth: tx - yes I know how it works with PMs
[11:27] <apoZ`> Xenguy,  ah no , it's still there :(
[11:27] <Xenguy> apoZ`: what is still there?
[11:27] <apoZ`> The mozilla firefox thing
[11:27] <delire> zone17 do you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[11:27] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, I am not sure if you remember, but yesterday you helped me with ssh... i need some more help with it, can you please help me?
[11:27] <zoot_> robotgeek: thx
[11:28] <SuseUX> bah
[11:28] <Xenguy> apoZ`: that does not describe the problem though
[11:28] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you ask your question to the channel, i'm sure someone can help
[11:28] <robotgeek> apoZ`: Open up 'Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor'. find firefox in the list, and right click to kill
[11:28] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ok
[11:28] <zone17> delire, normally its possible to simply type xorgconfig
[11:28] <Tuxedo_Kamen> appears it didn't worked very good. Sometimes I could connect, but out of 20 tries, only 1 of them suceeded!
[11:28] <elad`> I want to make boot times shorter. I don't want to wait for RAID and other stuff I don't use. What do I do about this?
[11:29] <apoZ`> robotgeek, thx :)
[11:29] <Xenguy> elad`: get faster hardware :-)
[11:29] <starscalling> sudo cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xchat co -P xchat2   <<- this is the correct command for grabbing the latest xchat cvs correct?
[11:29] <apoZ`> new to ubuntu .. :-/
[11:29] <Xenguy> apoZ`: that was the GUI way - glad it worked
[11:29] <starscalling> yay for ubuntu
[11:29] <delire> ;)
[11:29] <elad`> Xenguy: But can't I cut out the processes I don't use out of the boot thingie, like the RAID?
[11:29] <apoZ`> yeah not so easy :)
[11:29] <starscalling> oops sorry about that wrong room for my other question disregard that
[11:29] <SuseUX> elad`, it realy dont make that much difference
[11:29] <Xenguy> elad`: sure
[11:30] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  where can i find d4x now ?
[11:30] <Xenguy> elad`: you want to turn certain service off or on, is that it?
[11:30] <elad`> Xenguy: Probably.
[11:30] <robotgeek> apoZ`: now, try that url again :) adding repos!
[11:30] <wrtpeeps> hi, what is the package name for GNOMe
[11:30] <jrattner1> Anyone got a nice gnome screen shot, im curious what a nice gnome desktop looks like, I used to run enlightment but now use KDE
[11:30] <nalioth> jrattner1: visit www.gnome.org
[11:30] <elad`> I want to know both what I can turn off, and how.
[11:30] <wrtpeeps> i try to do apt-get install gnome, but it says it has no installation candidate
[11:30] <SuseUX> jrattner1, http://suseux.commscentral.net:8000/Screenshot.png
[11:30] <chinn> i've just installed ubuntu, i went through GRUB, boot sequence, login screen, entered my login & password, it accepts it, i get the ubuntu image and startup sound, but then it jitters a bit and i think it locks up. I suspected this after a 5 minute wait and no HD light flashing
[11:30] <robotgeek> jrattner1: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7813/screenshot16gl.png
[11:31] <apoZ`> robotgeek, I just paste this : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto  in firefox
[11:31] <Xenguy> elad`: if you can find 'rcconf', that can help.  Otherwise there is always 'update-rc.d'.  You use this to start of stop services for in the future
[11:31] <elad`> I also want the Windows Key to do something, like open the K Menu or something.
[11:31] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  ok ?
[11:31] <delire> zone17: i've never used xorgconfig, having used dpkg-reconfigure to manipulate my xserver configurations for years.
[11:31] <Xenguy> s/of/or
[11:31] <robotgeek> apoZ`: yup
[11:31] <tHirso> I'm getting an error during the base system install (ver 5.10) , is there any way i can identify whats wrong(cd or iso)?
[11:31] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me testing my ssh?
[11:31] <charlesbc> The Lilypond package is running quite behind version. Is there a way to upgrade to a more recent version?
[11:31] <superdave42> is there a seperate Breezy channel or should I just ask my question here?
[11:31] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: what do you want to test?
[11:31] <ericz> when is breezy official?
[11:31] <Pyro> soon
[11:31] <ericz> when will they ship free cd's?
[11:32] <sockpuppe1> nalioth ill post my error messages in the pastebin
[11:32] <apoZ`> robotgeek, worked now
[11:32] <djm62> ericz: 13th is the official date
[11:32] <Pyro> 4-6 weeks delivery, so NOT SON
[11:32] <Pyro> SOON*
[11:32] <ericz> so they should start shipping cd's like... within a month of its release?
[11:32] <nalioth> ericz: sooner
[11:32] <jrattner1> SuSE is the weather incorperated into the background? what is that?
[11:32] <Pyro> no i mean cds take 4-6 weeks to get to you
[11:32] <zone17> delire, its standard with xorg to simply use xorgconfig. dpkg-reconfigure is a debian tool
[11:32] <robotgeek> apoZ`: go through the instructions, add the universe repository. and you should be able to install d4x
[11:32] <djm62> any way to help with distribution?
[11:32] <ericz> i know pyro, i ordered hoary ones once
[11:32] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, I need to see if random people can connect or not, and I need help finding out how to create new accounts, assigning permissions to write/execute/read a single folder... those are the 2 things I need help with
[11:32] <delire> zone17: sure ok.
[11:33] <Pyro> ericz ok ^^ so slow i just ISOed lol
[11:33] <ericz> i have no cd burner :(
[11:33] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: ssh uses user accounts on the machine
[11:33] <robotgeek> jrattner1: http://robotgeek.freefronthost.com/blog/images/screenshot.jpg this too :)
[11:33] <elad`> Xenguy: I've installed rcconf. What now?
[11:33] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, ok, but I couldn't find how to specify the only folder they can use!
[11:33] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: so the permissions on the machine are the permissions for the user who logs into it
[11:33] <elad`> Heh? Why is mzscheme there?
[11:33] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: by default, it will be their home folder
[11:33] <jrattner1> SuseUX, where did you get such nice icons
[11:33] <wrtpeeps> hmm
[11:33] <sockpuppe1> nalioth http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2979
[11:34] <delire> zone17: apt-cache search xorgconfig --> xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients
[11:34] <wrtpeeps> anyone know what the package name for GNOMe is?
[11:34] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but they can ONLY access it, or they will access the rest of the system too?
[11:34] <mjr> wrtpeeps, ubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <djm62> Tuxedo_Kamen: is this something that you'd be better using sftp only for?
[11:34] <wrtpeeps> yea, but that installs so much other stuff
[11:34] <jrattner1> robotgeek, what is that in the top left
[11:34] <wrtpeeps> is there no package to just install GNOMe?
[11:34] <SuseUX> jrattner1, which ones?
[11:34] <robotgeek> jrattner1: conky
[11:34] <jrattner1> robotgeek, conky?
[11:34] <delire> wrtpeeps: use apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop to view the packages this meta package installs.
[11:35] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you make a user account with no extra priveleges, they will only be able to access their home directory
[11:35] <jrattner1> SuseUX, like the nice firefox one
[11:35] <apoZ`> robotgeek, downloading d4x, tx alot
[11:35] <robotgeek> jrattner1: http://conky.sf.net
[11:35] <robotgeek> apoZ`: np
[11:35] <wrtpeeps> delire: python etc
[11:35] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  what now ?
[11:35] <sockpuppe1> nalioth any idea as to why im getting that output message?
[11:35] <Jedrick> How to configure shorewall?
[11:35] <SuseUX> jrattner1, http://icons.deviantart.com/dock/
[11:36] <robotgeek> apoZ`: you wanted a downloading software right, there you go :)
[11:36] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, and how can i set the privileges?
[11:36] <apoZ`> this is no P2P ?
[11:36] <apoZ`> robotgeek,  So i need FTP's and stuff?
[11:36] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: no idea at all, sorry
[11:36] <jrattner1> SuseUX, cool link
[11:36] <robotgeek> apoZ`: oh p2p...damn! this is a download manager
[11:36] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you just open a terminal and type "adduser username" they will only have basic priveleges
[11:36] <apoZ`> I see :)
[11:37] <SuseUX> jrattner1, it's a very cool site :-)
[11:37] <apoZ`> Is there anything like bearshare on ubuntu N
[11:37] <apoZ`> ??
[11:37] <sockpuppe1> any ideas
[11:37] <sockpuppe1> anyone
[11:37] <robotgeek> apoZ`: try gtk-gnutella
[11:37] <sockpuppe1> ?
[11:37] <nightswim> what's bearshare
[11:37] <djm62> apoZ`: you can run limewire on anything with java
[11:37] <robotgeek> that too
[11:37] <djm62> (as long as it falls within "fair use" of course)
[11:38] <SuseUX> apoZ`, overnet is good
[11:38] <djm62> not to mention the BLOAT ;)
[11:39] <apoZ`> SuseUX, where to find ?
[11:39] <SuseUX> overnet has nice gnome intergration
[11:39] <[A] ndy80> hi
[11:39] <SuseUX> apoZ`, overnet.com
[11:39] <[A] ndy80> where can I find ubuntu packages for Anjuta 2.0.1 ? thanks
[11:39] <jrattner1> where are icons stored in ubuntu
[11:39] <nalioth> jrattner1: /usr/share/icons
[11:39] <pupil> anyone read german,.
[11:39] <jrattner1> nalioth, guess that was a dumb one :  )
[11:39] <pupil> please tell me what they are trying to say
[11:39] <elad`> Can I have KDE and GNOME running at the same time?
[11:39] <macgeek> pupil: i know a little..
[11:40] <pupil> magnusthe, http://www.sslug.dk/emailarkiv/teknik/2005_09/msg00042.html
[11:40] <apoZ`> SuseUX,  overnet = edonkey ?
[11:40] <SuseUX> apoZ`, overnet
[11:40] <magnusthe> pupil, hold on
[11:41] <robotgeek> SuseUX: in the screenshot, it's all gdesklets, right?
[11:41] <delire> Jedrick: i used http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm
[11:41] <magnusthe> pupil?
[11:41] <apoZ`> SuseUX, only e-donkey available for download on overnet.com
[11:41] <SuseUX> robotgeek, yes
[11:41] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, can I ask people to try it?
[11:41] <tombs> hi all
[11:41] <robotgeek> SuseUX: what's the dock called?
[11:41] <Tuxedo_Kamen> everyone, please try connecting to ssh://mykas0.dyndns.org
[11:41] <SuseUX> apoZ`, you can download overnet core and the GUI
[11:41] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: try what? it worked yesterday
[11:42] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ahd tell me if it works or not...
[11:42] <apoZ`> SuseUX, specific url ?
[11:42] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, yeah, but it doesn't seem to be working now... today I tried 20 times at university, and only 1 of them worked!
[11:42] <SuseUX> on the linux part
[11:42] <SuseUX> robotgeek,  starterbar
[11:43] <robotgeek> SuseUX: thanks
[11:43] <SuseUX> :-)
[11:43] <SuseUX> apoZ`, http://overnet.com/downloads.php
[11:43] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: it's dumb to do this in one of freenode's busies channels. best to ask someone then msg them the URL. no it's not working. 'sudo netstat -tupa | grep sshd'. check it's up and running and that the port is standard (22).
[11:44] <apoZ`> SuseUX,  forgot to scroll :-/   :D
[11:44] <SuseUX> heh
[11:44] <Licker> what was the commnd to change the Root password?
[11:44] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, that command didn't returned anything! >_>
[11:44] <robotgeek> SuseUX: i think i'll stick to keyboard shortcuts to launch my programs! :)
[11:44] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: ps ax | grep sshd
[11:45] <thread> Really weird networking issue: just recently, this started happening: NetworkManager gets on my encrypted wireless network just fine... but I can't actually ping any of the machines on my network
[11:45] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, yeah, I have 2 processes with thast name
[11:45] <SuseUX> robotgeek, i'm a eyecandy freak so :-)
[11:45] <thread> might it have something to do with my routing table?
[11:45] <thread> 192.168.1.0    0.0.0.0        255.255.255.0   U     0     0     0 eth0
[11:45] <thread> 0.0.0.0        192.168.1.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0     0     0 eth0
[11:45] <Tuxedo_Kamen> grep ssh and user/sbin/sshd
[11:45] <gokul> hey guys im back..i was gone a good while but w/e
[11:45] <robotgeek> thread: don't paste in here, use pastebin
[11:45] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: you're not running sshd, one is grep the other is sshd itself. what port is sshd listening on?
[11:46] <thread> robotgeek: sorry, I hoped a couple of lines wasn't too much
[11:46] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: sorry, ignore that first statement..
[11:46] <thread> why don't I have an entry for the lo interface?
[11:46] <anchovie> GNOME is slow at times when many applications are running at the same time, is there anyway to speed it up, e.g. tuning down the visual elements?
[11:46] <Tuxedo_Kamen> 8860 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd <--- this? I don't know how to check the port! >_>
[11:46] <sorush20> guys how do I change the OOo interface font size it seemes a little to bing since I upgraded form OOo.org 1.1.5 to 2.0
[11:47] <SuseUX> apoZ`, http://forum.edonkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=69145
[11:47] <[LethAL] > thread: Where is the data from lo going to go?
[11:47] <gokul> okay i'll just say i love Ubuntu but this is going to be my third linux distro that i delete unless i figure this out. That said i'll just say im a complete lunux newbie, 2 distro's i have tried all 2 have failed on my and have given up within a week. Okay so my question is that in about 15 minutes ubuntu will randomly just kick out into basically dos prompt (dont know the name in linux term.) and then it will just wait a few seconds (50
[11:47] <gokul> about) and then just turn off the pc
[11:47] <gokul> what should i do to stop this?
[11:48] <nalioth> gokul: linux takes learning
[11:48] <RockyBurt> hmm... is there a totem plugin for firefox downloadable someplace for ubuntu ?
[11:48] <apoZ`> SuseUX,  which package ?
[11:48] <thread> [LethAL] : the lo interface shouldn't have anything to do with my being able to ping other machiens on my lan... I just noticed I don't have that line in my route -n
[11:48] <gokul> i understand..thats what im trying to do..
[11:48] <nalioth> gokul: check your memory modules
[11:48] <djm62> gokul: what does it say on the screen?
[11:48] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, what do you think about it?
[11:48] <gokul> djm62: says some stuff about bluetooth, sorry i was soo pissed i just didn't bother to read it
[11:48] <sockpuppe1> is thepyromaniac here?
[11:48] <gokul> nalith: how do i do that
[11:49] <SuseUX> apoZ`, not sure since not used it on ubuntu
[11:49] <[LethAL] > thread: Nothing wrong with not having a lo entry in route, that's what I was saying
[11:49] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 'netstat -tupa' what port is it listening on?
[11:49] <thread> [LethAL] : right... I found the command to add it, and it doesn't help: route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo
[11:49] <djm62> nalioth: does the install CD have memtest?
[11:49] <nalioth> djm62: i believe it does
[11:49] <SuseUX> apoZ`, just compile if it dont work and apt-get the deps
[11:49] <[LethAL] > thread: I know, it's not going to help you
[11:50] <thread> [LethAL] : it's the weirdest thing.. I have the ip from my wap, iwconfig shows my encryption key and everything
[11:50] <gokul> djm62 : i dont have the CD ( i downloaded and burt the iso from xp pro)
[11:50] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, no idea, check this--- > tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN     -
[11:50] <thread> I'm connected! ... just, can't communicate with any machines on the network
[11:50] <apoZ`> SuseUX, don't understand sorry
[11:50] <thread> what else is required? routing table looks ok....
[11:50] <djm62> gokul: you have a CD, that you burnt from the iso?
[11:50] <[LethAL] > thread: does route show a default entry?
[11:50] <gokul> yes that i have
[11:51] <ndw> Hi all. Can someone point me to the Gnome knob I have to turn to get calendars to start on Sunday?
[11:51] <thread> [LethAL] : yeah 0.0.0.0 => 192.168.1.1 -- the wireless router -- right where it should go
[11:51] <djm62> gokul: that's no different to the other CDs (assuming you checked the md5)
[11:51] <anchovie> GNOME is slow at times when many applications are running at the same time, is there anyway to speed it up, e.g. tuning down the visual elements?
[11:51] <[LethAL] > thread: no, one should start with default instead of an IP. if not "sudo route add default gw <router's ip>"
[11:51] <gokul> djm62: i downloaded breezy badger version and no i didn't check the md5 out of exitement :-D
[11:52] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: i have "tcp6       0      0 *:22                  *:*                     LISTEN     14405/sshd" which is what you should have also.
[11:52] <SuseUX> anchovie, compile a -ck kernel :-)
[11:52] <thread> [LethAL] : SIOCADDRT: File Exists
[11:52] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum.... delire, how can I check my current ip in this computer?
[11:52] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: sudo ifconfig
[11:52] <tarzeau> Tuxedo_Kamen: telnet linuks.mine.nu 65535
[11:53] <delire> tarzeau: hehe
[11:53] <tarzeau> delire: ifconfig can be run without sudo, just give the full path
[11:53] <[LethAL] > thread: biut route (no options) shows no default route?
[11:53] <gokul> djm62: so uhh what should i do?
[11:53] <thread> [LethAL] : anyway, I am unable to PING my gateway ... I should be able to do that even if I'm not gatewaying through it
[11:53] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: to be absolutely sure, i like to use hostip.net
[11:53] <runedude> how do you know if you are running ubuntu or debian?
[11:53] <anchovie> SuseUX: That just went right over my head, but when I hear the word "compile" I guess that means "Linux Newbie = Big No No".
[11:53] <delire> tarzeau: i realise
[11:53] <SuseUX> anchovie, lol
[11:53] <djm62> gokul: does anything happen before it drops you to the console? can you log in at the console?
[11:53] <delire> tarzeau: a bad habit..
[11:53] <Tuxedo_Kamen> so, how can I correct whatever is wrong with my connection?
[11:54] <SuseUX> anchovie, whats you machine spec?
[11:54] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: i would say your port forwarding on the router is munged.
[11:54] <[LethAL] > thread: did you set your PC's IP?
[11:54] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nah, I opened port 22 and connected it to this pc
[11:54] <thread> [LethAL] : I always use route -n... but when I ran route with no options, it showed me 192.168.1.0 => *, 127.0.0.0 => *, paused for like 20 seconds, and printed default => 192.168.1.1
[11:54] <gokul> djm62 : okay this is what happens (its happened twice and i am awiting the third), i am basically doing what i normally am doing (descriptive :)) and then suddely it goes back into the mode (forget what its called) as if i had hit CTRL+ALT+ENTER
[11:54] <thread> [LethAL] : it got it dhcp from the wap
[11:55] <gokul> then it just sits there for a while, im too scared to do anything
[11:55] <aleitner> is anybody using NetworkManager?
[11:55] <Licker> what was the commnd to change the Root password?
[11:55] <gokul> and then a few (60) seconds later..bam computer just powers off
[11:55] <thread> [LethAL] : several other computers are working fine on the netowrk.. this is some problem with my ubuntu laptop
[11:55] <[LethAL] > thread: It talkts to the wap but tdoesn't ping it? Are you sure it's not blocking ICMP?
[11:55] <robotgeek> aleitner: yeah
[11:55] <apoZ`> SuseUX, i don't understand, probably cause i'm new to ubuntu
[11:55] <anchovie> SuseUX: Dell Inspiron 600m, 1.3GHz Pentium Centrino w/ 1024KB Lvl 2 Cache, 512MB SDRAM @ 266MHz, Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB 128-Bit AGP 4x.
[11:55] <gokul> i definatly remember it saying something about bluetooth..and some connections
[11:55] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: as i said, if port forwarding for your internal IP to the router is working, and 'netstat -tupa' reveals sshd is in state LISTEN on port 22. then all should be well assuming the address you gave earlier is the correct ssh target.
[11:55] <Taku> hi all
[11:55] <aleitner> robotgeek: did it also overwrite the symlink /etc/resolv.conf with a real file on your machine?
[11:55] <thread> [LethAL] : yeah, it should be answering ping. I just tried from this machine
[11:56] <[LethAL] > thread: is Mac filtering on?
[11:56] <SuseUX> anchovie, what sort of slowness?
[11:56] <thread> no
[11:56] <djm62> gokul: do keys like caps lock still make the keyboard lights go on and off? can you type anything and have it appear on the screen?
[11:56] <delire> thread: i have the same problem on my wireless router and MAC filtering was the culprit.
[11:56] <thread> [LethAL] : it can only be some update I got... I mean, this used to work
[11:56] <aleitner> robotgeek: and then ifup/ifdown would keep complaining about this (only a warning, but still)
[11:56] <gokul> djm62: caps lock keys do work..i never tried typing anything
[11:56] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, hum... but SSH doesn't appear to be configured to port 22
[11:56] <runedude> how do you know if you are running ubuntu or debian? is there a file that says which you are running?
[11:56] <[LethAL] > thread: Generally what I did was went down in security then slowly built it up and it worked
[11:56] <anchovie> SuseUX: When dragging windows there are "trails".
[11:57] <robotgeek> aleitner: doesn't happen for me, though there is no symlink (never was, AFAIK)
[11:57] <thread> when it used to work just fine and all the other computers on the network are getting on the wireless just fine?
[11:57] <SuseUX> anchovie, using ati driver or the xorg driver?
[11:57] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: '/usr/sbin/sshd stop && /usr/sbin/sshd -p 22' to be sure.
[11:57] <anchovie> SuseUX: I'm not sure, how do I check?
[11:57] <apoZ`> Does anybody know how to get my Network folder selected in Rhytmbox ???
[11:57] <djm62> gokul: is the machine shutting down or crashing?
[11:57] <anchovie> SuseUX: It's a laptop, and I didn't not install the driver, Ubuntu did that for me while the installation, so I'm gussing xorg?
[11:57] <SuseUX> anchovie, i'm not a ATI person since i've always had a nvidia card on Linux
[11:58] <apoZ`> Does anybody know how to get my Network folder selected in Rhytmbox ???
[11:58] <djm62> gokul: in your opinion
[11:58] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum.... delire, it showed an error messages, can I PM you about it?
[11:58] <gokul> djm62: it hangs for a bit just showing the same thing (havnt tried typing) then all of a sudden all power goes out, i guess that is crashing
[11:58] <aleitner> robotgeek: i am pretty sure it should be one and it is managed by the package resolvconf iirc.
[11:58] <SuseUX> install the ati driver maybe??
[11:58] <thread> MAC Address Filtering is not active on my router
[11:58] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: ok.
[11:58] <Pyro> whats the command to move a folder somewhere?
[11:58] <fryfrog> so i'm trying ubuntu for the first time on a brand new laptop with an ATI chipset/built in video
[11:58] <dooglus> my breezy box was hacked into I think.  any idea how to fix it?
[11:58] <thread> dooglus: reinstall
[11:58] <gokul> djm62: one second be right back
[11:58] <Licker> what was the commnd to change the Root password?
[11:58] <dooglus> thread: won't the same thing just happen again?
[11:58] <thread> that's always the only way to really recover from being hacked
[11:58] <fryfrog> aparantly, it hates the video chipset... the original ati driver freezes after you try and log in
[11:58] <RockyBurt> is there anyway to make the helix player in ubuntu play mp3's without downloading realplayer?
[11:59] <robotgeek> aleitner: there was something related to resolv.conf today in the nm-list, might want to read up
[11:59] <thread> dooglus: well, also you should learn what happened
[11:59] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: you'll need to use sudo.
[11:59] <runedude> anyone know?
[11:59] <dooglus> thread: ok, how?
[11:59] <RockyBurt> gah... i need a firefox plugin to play an mp3 embedded
[11:59] <fryfrog> when i apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, it just... makes the screen blank after trying to startx (and fails anyway)
[11:59] <aleitner> robotgeek: interesting. will go an check
[11:59] <Pyro> QUESTION whats the command to move a file?
[11:59] <rob_p> Tuxedo_Kamen:   It looks like your sshd is indeed bound to port 22 based on your netstat output.  Can you ssh to the box locally?
[11:59] <djm62> RockyBurt: mplayer?
[11:59] <aleitner> robotgeek: thx
[11:59] <dooglus> thread: I imagine reinstalling will remove all evidence...
[11:59] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: eg have root permissions. sshd is an important, security conscious server.
[11:59] <nalioth> RockyBurt: mplayer plugin
[11:59] <robotgeek> aleitner: np
[11:59] <fryfrog> the fglrx driver doesn't know anything bout this stupid laptop chipset either :/
[11:59] <thread> dooglus: check the logs for suspicious entries
[11:59] <anchovie> SuseUX: There are no ATI drivers for laptops as far as I know. But I know in Windows there are options lets you tune down your visual elements, such as when dragging windows it only shows the outline instead of the entire window, are there anyways to do that in GNOME?
[11:59] <RockyBurt> mplayer? hm... so neither xine nor totem will play an mp3 embedded in firefox?
[11:59] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: i think your port forwarding is munged.
[11:59] <dooglus> thread: I did.  they are suspicious
[11:59] <apoZ`> Does anybody know how to get my Network folder selected in Rhytmbox ???