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[03:01]
hi all!
[03:01]
im looking for MHZ, someoene have seen him?
[03:02] his client pinged out 1h 48m ago
[03:02] o thxs
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[03:12]
someone have the edubuntu logo on svg, or another vectorial format?
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[03:22] re
=== mhz_edu had another powercut! bummer!
[03:24] hi edu!
[03:24]
hola mhx
[03:24]
mhz, sorry
[03:25]
soy Pablo
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[04:39] jsgotangco, hi
[04:39] hi
[04:40] jsgotangco, we should write a book about IT solutions for Educational environments
[04:40] sounds fun
[04:40] you work in an educ institution right?
[04:40] IT Solutions = FLOSS solutions, of course
=== jsgotangco haven't been involved with education at all, just interested
[04:41] jsgotangco, kind of. I work on a couple of projects aimed to aid educational processes by using ITC
[04:41] i can do some readings on a local setting
[04:41] jsgotangco, does not matter.
[04:41] hehe, that is cool
[04:41] but i'll be moving to a new job soonish so i might be busy for a while after the release
[04:42] but i'll still be online
[04:42] I think there are plenty of things to write about based on Edubuntu experiences since released
[04:42] where to?
[04:43] oh i'll be staying for a while in brisbane
[04:43] brisbane?
[04:43] australia
[04:44] jsgotangco, any special reason why http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook has kept /chapters format instead of /ChapterFormat ?
[04:44] errr because i made it so? I just did it and didn't consider CamelCase you want to edit it?
[04:45] 5 years ago I wanted to leave for Australia with my wife. My wife got pregnant and we changed our plans.
[04:45] australia is beautiful
[04:45] may I?
[04:45] mhz_edu, feel free
[04:46] I feel free but we're talking about potential official docs
[04:46] mhz_edu, we're the official edubuntu doc team atm
[04:46] heh
[04:46] and I dont want you to revert changes afterwards
[04:46] :)
[04:46] no i won't revert those i promise
[04:46] lol
[04:47] basically, will that affect your Moin2DocBook parser?
[04:48] well i can fix it again if something gets borked im sure there's not much changes, you're the MoinMaster, I'll ask your expertise when something borks
[04:48] =)
[04:49] australia/ a few night ago, the news said australia was opening their doors to Chilean people who wanted to work there (all positions and jobs), and the rate to get a job for inmigrants was about 20-40 days after arriving, if you had the language.
[04:49] australia/ is that so?
[04:50] jsgotangco, lol
[04:50] thanks for the MoinMaster.. never thought that way. I am just a face in the crowd
[04:51] mhz_edu, australia is a big place
[04:54] jsgotangco, docing/ so, exactly what kind of documentation do you need? Howtos based on Edubuntu? Edubuntu case of studies? Edubuntu T.O.C ? Edward Ubuntu, the pioneer of education based on Linux system?
[04:54] or is it editing the "cookbook"?
[04:54] mhz_edu, well the Cookbook is basically a manual for setting up Edubuntu
[04:55] yes
[04:55] it should have troubleshooting notes, etc.
[04:55] highvoltage is the one writing the troubleshooting notes
[04:55] eeek, hard work!
[04:55] no wonder he chose that nick
[04:55] :)
[04:56] the aim of the cookbook is to have people with no prior linux experience setup an Edubuntu learning environment
[04:57] I see. so the main work should be focused on the cookbook editing
[04:57] well ideally we'd love to do that, but it doesn't stop us from using content made by other people as long as it has the proper license
[04:57] and the goal is? (date-time-pages??)
[04:58] if people already wrote it, why should we re-write it? let's use the community when they are willing to help out
[04:58] LOL
[04:58] our job would be collecting and massaging that info
[04:59] and then we write a book based on those contents but we get the moeny! :D
[04:59] lol
[04:59] no
[04:59] depends on the license really
[04:59] if we make a book from scratch we have to do it separately
[05:03] okidoki
[05:03] roger that
[05:03] BTW,
[05:04] I managed to boot Edubuntu CD from HD, as I have this thin laptop with PCMCIA Cd drive.
[05:04] The thing is that to my surprise... it did not install edubuntu LTSP stuff!!
[05:05] even after it showed aptitude configuring all the stuff
[05:05] and the famous 50% of LTSP installing
[05:06] However, I do have a full /opt tree but no /etc/ltsp
[05:08] hmmm
[05:08] strange
[05:08] indeed.
[05:08] I even have the games and all
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[05:12] jsgotangco, when will the /data dirs of the ubuntu wikis be merged?
[05:13] hmm i have no idea really
[05:13] henrik has a better idea on that i guess
[05:13] you were talking to him yesterday right?
[05:21] im just going to fix something first
[05:21] brb
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[08:26] morning
[08:27] jsgotangco: have i sent you version 2 yet?
[08:27] mhz_zzZZ: the nick actually came from a linkin park song of the same name ;) - which basically describes me :)
[08:27] JaneW: morning!
[08:28] hello highvoltage
[08:38] highvoltage: nope
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[09:55] JaneW, ping?
[10:02] jsgotangco: pong
[10:03] i've updated BreezyReleaseNotes and requires proofreading..please look on it when you're free
[10:08] jsgotangco: will do so in the next 10 mins (thanks)
[11:04] jsgotangco: to confirm you are talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes
[11:04] not EdubuntuReleaseNOtes?
[11:04] ahhh
[11:04] i still haven't received a reply from your email on that =)
[11:11] jsgotangco: first point 'And every other software you can imagine available' would rather say something like *any* other
[11:12] jsgotangco: "configuration of Ubuntu 5.10 before reporting bugs" change to: Ubuntu 5.10, and before reporting bugs...
[11:13] jsgotangco: "Ubuntu is released regulary" spelling/typo of regularly
[11:13] JaneW, can you edit it?
[11:14] just relised that, sorry being thick!
[11:14] will do
[11:14] (although I SUCK at proof reading in the editor window)
[11:16] sorry im a bit tired at the moment i've been digging through that document for a few hours already
[11:16] i'd just love to parse it later
[11:16] heh
[11:16] and chnage the other stuff to edubuntu
[11:18] doing it, it;s not bad in the editor - no tables YAY! ;)
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[11:21] JaneW: any feedback from anyone that side on the DNS/apache setup?
[11:22] no :(
[11:22] JaneW: I haven't received feedback from RT or elmo yet.
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[11:22] I take it it wasn't done on friday then?
[11:22] they are both marked as away atm...
[11:25] jsgotangco: want your Known issue removed since RC is out and it says to remove before release??
[11:25] the LVM issue...
[11:26] JaneW, there should be some but devels haven't updated it at all, maybe you can use your whip?
[11:27] jsgotangco: The Ubuntu 5.10 installer will run and follow the on-screen instructions to start the installation.
[11:27] do you mean: The Ubuntu 5.10 installer will run. Follow the on-screen instructions to start the installation.
[11:27] ?
[11:28] ohhhh
[11:28] must I change it
[11:29] yes please
[11:29] the first way implies that the installer will follow the instructions automatically?
=== jsgotangco brain freeze
[11:29] np
[11:29] no
[11:29] the installer will run upon pressing enter
[11:29] and the user should follow the on-screen instructions
[11:32] ok
[11:33] jsgotangco: what's the funny character here? Table 1 Recommended Minimum Requirements
[11:33] can I remove it?
[11:36] funny?
[11:36] ahh
[11:36] Table 1 was an artifact from the original docbook source
[11:47] done
[11:48] ogra: ping
[11:51] wow. seems like there's lots of interest on the k12-ltsp list for an ubuntu with ltsp.
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[11:52] highvoltage: link please
[11:52] jsgotangco: ok hopefully that's all
[11:53] JaneW: link to the list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn
[11:53] ta
[11:54] JaneW: you can browse the archives there too (although it's a bit sucky): https://www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2005-October/thread.html
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[12:10] JaneW, thanks, maybe you can crack the whip on devs to actually look into the document and add "known issues" and whatever needs to be done we're just 2 days from release we really need this
[12:10] jsgotangco: I tired earlier, didn't get a response will try again now...
[12:10] if we don't get known issues, we'll delete the part and have them suffer bugzilla
[12:12] nod
[12:12] please tell me about Moodle?
[12:13] the latest is that it is NOT part of Edubuntu default install
[12:13] once upon a time there was a moodle...
[12:13] eh?
[12:13] but can be downloaded from universe right?
[12:13] JaneW, that's why we need those stuff from the email...
[12:13] JaneW: yes :(
[12:13] if its in universe, it shouldn't be in any of our notes
[12:14] entirely my fault
[12:14] I am trying to answer an e-mail...
[12:14] ajmitch_: ?
[12:14] JaneW: since I volunteered to try & get moodle's packaging rewritten to try & get it qualified for main
[12:14] Moodle MainInclusionReportMoodle Needs work (wwwconfig-common)
[12:15] yeah
[12:15] oic, pity
[12:15] I was trying to remove the wwwconfig-common dependency
[12:15] at least we have schooltool (do we?)
[12:15] database creation & user creation
[12:15] yes, schooltool is in
[12:16] JaneW: I fear that I will owe ogra a few beers for moodle
[12:16] :/
[12:16] he needs them...
[12:16] we can pour them into him at UBZ
[12:20] heh
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[12:25] if orga come in please ask about the edubuntu RC and if we are anywhere near having one...
[12:25] ill be out as well but will be back in time for the CC meeting
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[12:29] CC 14UTC
[12:29] ajmitch_, fridge it!
[12:29] 3am my time
[12:29] I think I'll skip that
[12:29] I want to be slightly coherent at work in the morning
[12:29] it'll be fun the forums complaint came up again
[12:29] hehe
[12:30] yay
[12:30] definitely not worth me turning up then :)
[12:30] hehe
[12:30] edubuntu meeting the day after?
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[12:30] also at a nasty hour? :)
[12:32] 42u-buntu?
[12:33] ?
[12:33] forgive me, my brain has already switched off for the night
[12:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DraftBreezyAnnouncement
[12:34] hm, I thought it was going to be '2u-buntu'
[12:36] im gonna rest a bit
[12:36] brb
[12:37] ok
[12:45] JaneW, i'll know after my install finished :)
[12:45] morning
[12:46] hi ogra
[01:02] ajmitch_, anything on the moodle front ?
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[02:33] ogra: ok thanks
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[02:34] http://www.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup and http://www.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientKeymap are done...
[02:35] and i think thats all we have left :)
[02:38] JaneW, all workarounds (sadly not the fixes) are through ... i fought little battles with mdz :)
[02:43] sigh
[02:44] be glad for small victories
[02:45] hey, the CD looks ok, so dont worry :)
[02:46] yay, well done
[02:46] does DHCP work?
[02:46] or at least not break everything else? ;)
[02:47] see the above docs...
[02:47] everything works, but you need to do the last steps manually
[02:47] at east it doesnt break and installs fine...
[02:47] *least
[02:47] no matter which IP or other setting you use...
[02:48] we should link the two docs from the InstallationNotes page and will be fine i think... (assuming the users read it)
[02:49] if they dont read it, we'll just have a higher support rate, which is fine too with me... so i get in contact ith our users *g*
[02:49] (think positive.... where you can)
[02:50] heh
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[03:09] morining
[03:09] hey mhz_edu
[03:10] ogra, hi there. As you already know, I installed edubuntu on the thin laptop. I saw the 50% screen progress (about 5 minutes :) ) and rebooted ok.
[03:10] mhz_edu, have a look at http://www.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup and http://www.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientKeymap and tell me if you see need for improvement...
[03:10] However, I ended up having no /etc/ltsp
[03:10] but I did have the whole /opt tree
=== mhz_edu reading
[03:10] you rebooted when the system told you to ? not before ?
[03:11] i know the progress reporting needs some more love, but i wasnt allowed to make the changes now...
[03:12] and at least you see the CD working until the installer goes on with the install
[03:13] I did everything exactly as I did for the desktop "edubuntu server". The only diff was that as I have no chance to boot from PCMCIA CD drive, I edited GRUB and started from HD to then load PCMCIA CD drive.
[03:13] ouch
[03:13] baad?
[03:14] that cant work... the ltsp builder requires that the CD is mounted under /cdrom
[03:14] hmmmmmmmm
[03:14] no problem, I think I can build a "tweak of original ltsp", right?
[03:15] I mean, how hard can it be ?
[03:15] (please tell me it's piece of strawberry cake
[03:15] sure, but did you walk through the steps between ltsp building and reboot ?
[03:15] )
[03:16] yes, absolutely 100% sure because I am used to keep notes of everything I do during install process
[03:16] else you'll be missing settings and stuff...
[03:16] ok, then its no prob...
[03:16] so, far, the only thing I have noticed it's missing the is the dhcpd.conf and the /ltsp dir
[03:16] make sure edubuntu-server is installed correctly
[03:17] how do I make sure?
[03:17] sudo apt-get install edubuntu-server
[03:17] lol!
[03:17] it will tell you if its already there :)
[03:17] I thought you were gonna say something more complex than that
[03:18] hey, its ubuntu... no complexity allowed ;)
[03:18] oh, BTW, I still can't find why LDM ignores .xsession ot .Xsession ~/files
[03:18] hehehe
[03:19] ogra, neither complexity nor fixes allowed :D (ironic joke but couldn't help it, sorry)
[03:19] heh
[03:20] .oO(it's my latin sense of humour)
[03:20] fixes are allowed until a certain date :)
[03:20] oh, good point
[03:21] hhh. actually when this fujitsu boots the screen is "ubuntu'" not "edubuntu" but when GDM starts (i still do not like GDM or any xDM, I do prefer the login prompt only) this beautiful edubuntu screen shows up
[03:22] JaneW, on Wednesday, I'll have CD covers to show
[03:24]