[05:21] <jsgotangco> brb
[05:30] <jsgotangco> mmm the oem mode actually works
[06:44] <jsgotangco> hi robitaille
[06:45] <robitaille> hello jsgotangco 
[06:46] <robitaille> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mylene_Farmer   sigh.   why people put useless crap on the wiki.  But cannot delete it since that person is linking to it from his wiki page
[06:47] <HrdwrBob> er yes you can
[06:47] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[06:47] <robitaille> but I didn't know she was born in Montreal... I always thought she was from France (I have a couple of CD from her)
[06:47] <robitaille> yes I can...but it's not very polite :)
[06:47] <HrdwrBob> no, but creating wiki pages for random french/canadian singers
[06:48] <jsgotangco> lol
[06:48] <HrdwrBob> is not really the purpose
[06:48] <jsgotangco> unless she actually uses ubuntu
[06:48] <HrdwrBob> yeah
[06:48] <HrdwrBob> if she endorses ubuntu, maybe L(
[06:48] <HrdwrBob> :)
[06:50] <robitaille> well, mylene farmer + linux (or Ubuntu) in Google doesn't turn up anything interesting
[06:51] <jsgotangco> lol
[06:51] <ajmitch_> get the page deleted :)
[06:51] <ajmitch_> it's certainly WikiSpam
[06:52] <jsgotangco> Asia Carrera is more likely to use ubuntu
[06:53] <robitaille> jsgotangco,  http://www.famousbabes.com/myleneF/mylene.htm  
[06:53] <jsgotangco>  Granted, the first impression you get of Mylene can be quite frightening. She's like the poster girl for New Age artists with a psychosexual death obsession. The upside is that it's allowed her to appear completely naked in a number of her music videos.
[06:54] <robitaille> for the people going to UBZ, be very careful of girls in Montreal :)
[06:54] <ajmitch_> sounds like an ubuntu user
[06:54] <jsgotangco> oh i'll taker her anytime instead of celine dion
[06:54] <jsgotangco> robitaille: do they bite?
[06:55] <robitaille> jsgotangco, they can :)
[06:56] <robitaille> why do you think I left town?
[06:56] <robitaille> (this conversation is going nowhere...maybe I should delete the wiki page and be done with it)
[07:00] <robitaille> and the wiki page is gone...
[07:01] <jsgotangco> lol
[07:01] <jsgotangco> ok and i read further on francophone belles biting
[07:13] <HrdwrBob> robitaille: ooer
[07:13] <HrdwrBob> I think I will have to go to UBZ now
[03:33] <jsgotangco> jbailey!!!
[03:37] <jbailey> jsgotangco!!!
[03:38] <jsgotangco> so you finally came out from hibernation....
[03:38] <jsgotangco> (with an upload vengeance)
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. sure did
[03:39] <jbailey> jsgotangco: Yeah, sorry about keeping it in my local tree.
[03:39] <jbailey> It was just in so many states where it didn't work.
[03:39] <jbailey> So I didn't want to commit those.
[03:39] <jbailey> I've figured out what the tree should look like on the trunk, though.
[03:39] <jsgotangco> its alright, im almost done with the relesae notes as well
[03:43] <jbailey> Ah, cool.
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> can i ask about doing the diffs using svn, i have the wiki bookmarked (so will have a play with it), but is that the stock instructions? or are there some others (i dont mind particularly, i almost feel like reading a man page)
[03:43] <jsgotangco> Kamping_Kaiser, that's as easy as you can get
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. ill go have some svn fun :)
[03:44] <jsgotangco> jbailey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes is updated
[03:44] <jbailey> jsgotangco: Did we figure out what to do with them now? =)
[03:45] <jsgotangco> jbailey, err can you still upload?
[03:45] <jsgotangco> the doc doesn't have entities
[03:45] <jbailey> Which doc?
[03:45] <jbailey> I checked them all, none of them seemed to error.
[03:45] <jsgotangco> breezy-release-notes.xml
[03:46] <jbailey> Is that on the branch?
[03:46] <jsgotangco> yes
[03:46] <jsgotangco> gnome/releasenotes/C
[03:46] <jbailey> Is there an OMF to go with it?
[03:46] <jsgotangco> NOT YET
[03:46] <jsgotangco> im not in my work machine =(
[03:47] <jsgotangco> it seems we have no known issues?
[03:48] <jbailey> Eh?  No idea.
[03:48] <jsgotangco> (well no devs seem to want to write one)
[03:48] <jsgotangco> oh well i'll delete the section then
[03:49] <jsgotangco> (let them feel the wrath of users spamming bugzilla)
[03:49] <jbailey> Ayup
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know how long untill the svn /branches/breezy is merged into /trunk?
[04:01] <jbailey> Kamping_Kaiser: I will hack on that probably on Friday.
[04:01] <jsgotangco> Kamping_Kaiser, in a few days =)
[04:01] <jsgotangco> it'll be fun
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok :) thanks ppl. 
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> fun? how fun can it be :O
[04:01] <jbailey> jsgotangco: I'll write something up to the list a bit later today talking about my thoughts on it.
[04:01] <jsgotangco> sure
[04:01] <jsgotangco> jbailey, its like we have a team atm
[04:02] <jsgotangco> =(
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0?
[04:05] <jsgotangco> Kamping_Kaiser, don't worry hehe
[04:05] <jsgotangco> its just really quite before release; we'll fix that in a few days
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> mmm. im waiting to find out how this works. im getting bits and pieces of info, but pity i didnt join the list (and jump in here) while stuff was still going on 
[04:13] <jsgotangco> Kamping_Kaiser, don't worry after every release, we always do a fresh start
[04:13] <jsgotangco> perfect tme to jump in
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. great :) ill make myself available to be at meetings/whatever ( i asume you catch up here?)
[04:14] <jsgotangco> ubuntu-meeting
[04:14] <jsgotangco> i always make the annoucement
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. ill keep an eye out thanks :)
[05:38] <mdke> jbailey, nice work on -docs
[05:40] <mdke> jbailey, i don't know if you can do anything about this, but inter-document links aren't working properly. They don't point to the particular question that they should be linking to, but rather just link to the top of the relevant section that the question is in.
[05:42] <jsgotangco> hi mdke 
[05:42] <jbailey> mdke: I wouldn't count that as release critical enough to try at this point.
[05:42] <jbailey> mdke: I want to do one more upload, which is the release notes with an OMF file and then send her off.
[05:43] <jsgotangco> just finishing the edubuntu RC annoucement
[05:44] <mdke> jbailey, it is quite critical I guess because it means that many of the answers in the document don't fully explain how to do something (as they cross refer to a previous answer), but again, your call.
[05:44] <mdke> hiya jsgotangco 
[05:46] <mdke> maybe the problem is due to yelp
[05:46] <mdke> who knows
[05:47] <jsgotangco> i thought of something post breezy
[05:47] <jsgotangco> make a table of whatever is borked with the links in yelp
[05:47] <jsgotangco> and fix it (just a few omfs really)
[05:48] <jbailey> jsgotangco: The trick will be to file all of yelp's bugs that we come across.
[05:48] <jbailey> Then seb and I can fix them.
[05:48] <mdke> hmm
[05:48] <mdke> jsgotangco, what happened to the css for about-ubuntu?
[05:48] <jbailey> jsgotangco: It's there...
[05:49] <mdke> no, it's there
[05:49] <mdke> i mean, what happened to it, as in, did anyone do any work on it to make it look nice?
[05:50] <jbailey> mdke: No.
[05:50] <mdke> that is clearly not jbailey's job
[05:50] <mdke> it was our job
[05:50] <jbailey> I had said I was going to try.
[05:50] <mdke> ahh
[05:50] <jbailey> But I didn't come up with any brilliant ideas that still allowed the source to be generated from the about ubuntu page.
[05:51] <jbailey> My conclusion is mostly that it shouldn't be the about ubuntu page.
[05:51] <jsgotangco> i was busy with edubuntu and the ubuntu release notes but we just don't have enough time really
[05:51] <jbailey> It should be something sexy and snazzy that is unrelated.
[05:51] <mdke> yeah
[05:51] <mdke> jbailey, well i think it shouldn't be a local page at all... but since it is there...
[05:51] <mdke> we needed to get henrik on it
[05:51] <jbailey> Needs to be a local page -
[05:51] <jbailey> Not all machines are network connected =)
[05:51] <jsgotangco> i agree
[05:52] <mdke> jbailey, yes but, at risk of going over old arguments, firefox is a webbrowser
[05:52] <jbailey> Which can be used to view local documents. =)
[05:52] <jbailey> I do it all the time.
[05:52] <mdke> you're a developer
[05:52] <mdke> oh well
[05:52] <jbailey> Dude, I know of no better way to get to the system documentation.
[05:52] <jsgotangco> i agree
[05:53] <jbailey> yelp sucks for viewing HTML docs.
[05:53] <mdke> no need to rack this argument up again
[05:53] <mdke> the fact is, the home page is about-ubuntu
[05:53] <mdke> how about making the font smaller?
[05:53] <jbailey> mdke: To win my support on this, we need to simply have a better solution for viewing the local html docs.  
[05:53] <jbailey> mdke: I don't really care what that solution is. =)  But at that point I'll buy it. =)
[05:53] <mdke> sure
[05:54] <mdke> but my point is, that for this release we are stuck with that doc as the homepage
[05:54] <jbailey> Yup
[05:54] <mdke> how about making the font smaller?
[05:54] <mdke> it is a bit much to get the Ubuntu top bar I guess... we should have done that earlier :/
[05:54] <jsgotangco> mdke, if im still awake in a few hours, i'll be happy to just embed the css like the quicktour..im doing 3 things at the same time atm and doing screenshots for the quicktour
[05:54] <jbailey> I would love to make the font smaller, and float the image to the top right.
[05:55] <jbailey> jsgotangco: I can do these things if it's clear what I'm to do. =)
[05:55] <jbailey> Right now I think I need to go get lunch. =)
[05:55] <jbailey> Breakfast was 5 hours ago...
[05:55] <mdke> i don't mind having a look now
[05:55] <jsgotangco> and i need to sleep heh
[05:55] <jbailey> Cool.
[05:55] <jbailey> I've committed everything of mine to the branch, so it's current to the package.
[05:55] <mdke> if we are really clever we could put the Ubuntu top bar in
[05:56] <mdke> ubuntu-nl have a  pure css version of the top bar iirc
[05:56] <jbailey> Anyone mind if I run off for 30m or so?
[05:56] <mdke> nope
[05:56] <jbailey> 'k. =)
[05:57] <mdke> how about asking henrik about this issue, jsgotangco ?
[06:10] <mdke> ok i give up
[06:10] <mdke> jbailey, feel free to make the font smaller though if you like (font-size:10pt; in body in aboutubuntu.css?)
[06:23] <jbailey> mdke: What are you giving up on?
[06:39] <jbailey> I'm trying to figure out what can be done with the Ubuntu logo.
[10:15] <Kinnison> ciao