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apoZ`What program do you guys use for playing music ?12:00
naliothRockyBurt: i'm not sure about totem or xine, but there is an mplayer plugin12:00
Ky0tIkhas anyone here tried using icebergradio.com with firefox?   i know it uses mms streams, but the now playing in the icebergradio doesnt show up, can anyone help me figure out how to resolve this issue?12:00
SuseUXanchovie, it's not a gnome thing no12:00
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, nah, I don't think so...12:00
Rockett18SuseUX: I also have the ati driver/laptop issue.. the fglrx drivers don't work12:00
dooglusthread: I see "root" becoming me using "su".  Is that normal?12:00
gokulcan anyone else help me?12:00
Tuxedo_Kamenlet's try something else... how can I see my external ip?12:00
robotgeekapoZ`: used to used beep-media-player, i use amaroK now12:00
tristanmikePyro, "cp"12:00
delireTuxedo_Kamen: then the URL you gave must be incorrect or you are not accepting anonymous requests.12:00
fryfrogRockett18: what about the plain old "ati" driver?12:01
threaddooglus: yeah that's pretty suspicious12:01
threadheh12:01
SuseUXanchovie, nvidia has renderaccelration which gives not redraw what so ever12:01
delireTuxedo_Kamen: http://hostip.net12:01
SuseUXno*12:01
delireTuxedo_Kamen: http://hostip.info12:01
Rockett18the plain ati driver doesn't work on windows either.. I have to get the driver from toshiba12:01
sector10gokul: whats up?12:01
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sector10oh well12:01
SuseUXRockett18, that sucks bad12:01
Takuhey everybody, I've got some troubles with my centrino too ... could someone help me ? : /12:01
threadseriously... someone must know more about networking than me12:01
Rockett18SuseUX: yeah I know12:02
magnusthethread ?12:02
dooglusthread: do you run breezy?12:02
threadwhy would I get on my wireless network seemingly just fine, but not be able to ping any of the machines12:02
Rockett18but I don't really play games on it.. so the mesa drivers are fine12:02
apoZ`My problem is that my NETWORK folder is not in the normal folders when i try to select an MP312:02
threadyes, breezy... it must be some update I got12:02
TakuI just verified that my AP visible was on12:02
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, try this: ssh://82.155.199.2612:02
Rockett18just would be nice to have 3d screensavers etc12:02
threadwhat might I try rolling back?12:02
delirethread: some routers seem to enjoy blocking internal pings, i don't know why. i've come across it twice in two different routers w/ factory settings.12:02
apoZ`Help please12:02
threaddelire: it responds. I tried from my workstation here12:02
Takuhelp please too :p12:02
magnustheapoZ` help with what?12:03
dooglusthread: do you see any output from this command?      sudo zgrep "root:" /var/log/auth.log*12:03
Pyrotristnamike thanks foud mv ^^12:03
delireTuxedo_Kamen: yes, that works12:03
apoZ`Help with the folders12:03
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delireTuxedo_Kamen: the URL you gave earlier was wrong i think. that was all.12:03
sector10Rockett18: is it a toshiba notebook? sorry just came in12:03
threaddooglus: yeah, lots12:03
magnustheapoZ` what about them?12:03
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apoZ`I would like to get the NETWORK folder (all my files are on my other pc, in the network)12:03
Tuxedo_Kamennah, it must be a problem with my updater or something12:03
Rockett18sector10: yep Toshiba Satellite 190012:03
apoZ`in my usual folders12:03
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delirethread: no idea, it sounds too site specific to diagnose without alot more information, from here.12:03
Tuxedo_Kameni'll check it now12:03
dooglusthread: could you paste them to the pastebin for me please?  or pm me?  I'm wondering if they look like mine12:04
SuseUXanchovie, ubuntu tends to be slower, even i've noticed that12:04
threaddooglus: I wish I could post some for you, but this machien is isn't network connected12:04
Takuplease if anyone has got a centrino : "Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:" ; I get this when i make a "grep ipw"12:04
dooglusthread: ugh.12:04
apoZ`magnusthe, Cause when i try to choose a file from the network in an application, i can't find the network folder12:04
dooglusthread: mine isn't either any more...12:04
HatchetDawgdammit...... gdesklets crapped out on me *grubles*12:04
sector10Rockett18: dont know that one real well. i had a M4512:04
Pyrowhy in the hell is it so hard to get ANY GAMEBOY ADVANCE EMULATER WORKING12:04
Pyroi have tried them all...12:04
anchovieSuseUX: Ooo... what's a comparabily faster distribution? =)12:04
Pyroits the kinda thing that makes you wanna love windows12:04
threaddelire: site specific? My wireless router is functioning just fine... everyone else including this desktop tower I'm on right now is on the wireless network12:04
SuseUXanchovie, slackware12:04
dooglusthread, what do you see after the 'root:' on those lines?  and what's the word before 'root:'?12:05
Pyrotook me 5 seoncs on win12:05
delireTaku: i have a centrino but it's late. i'd suggest you join #ipw2100. they can help there with both ipw2200 and ipw2100.12:05
apoZ`magnusthe,  ????12:05
Ky0tIkdoes anyone here use icebergradio.com to listen to music??  i can play the streams in firefox, but the boxes that shows the current playing artist / song, doesnt show up..  it doesnt say its missing a plugin or anything, it just doesnt show up.. does anyone know how i can figure out what  the hell im listening to? haha12:05
sector10anybody know how to improve notebook battery life?12:05
threaddooglus: date hostname su[1234] : + ??? root:thread12:05
naliothsector10: plug in to the wall?12:05
magnustheapoZ` what kind of computer are your files on? Windows? Unix? (I guess I'm asking whether to use samba or NFS)12:05
threaddooglus: some are root:root, and others are root:www-datea12:05
Takudelire: ok I'll do this ... just hope they'll be able to help me12:05
threaddata*12:05
Tuxedo_Kamendelire, I just found my problem. my new ip isn't being modifyed in the server12:05
Takuthanks12:05
delirethread: ok best of luck. it's late here.12:05
delireTuxedo_Kamen: ahah ok, you have a dynamic IP.12:05
Tuxedo_Kameni know12:05
apoZ`magnusthe,  Windows12:06
Rockett18sector10: yeah it's one of those ATI Mobility Radeon (M6) things12:06
delireok, best of luck all.12:06
threadAnybody have any idea what package I might try to roll back?12:06
dooglusthread: hmmm.  "su[...] : + ??? root:thread" means root is su'ing to 'thread' from an unknown terminal.  is that normal?12:06
threadif an update did actually mess me up?12:06
sector10i was at 80% 10 min ago now 55%12:06
magnustheapoZ`in Nautilus (the file browser) press Ctrl-L (a dialogue should open) then type smb:// and press return12:06
sector10nalioth:  do you know if cpu throttling works12:07
threaddooglus: I'm not sure... I guess it doesn't sound very normal... cuz I don't su to thread from root that often12:07
elad`I'm looking for something called "Configuration Editor"?12:07
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone help me configuring ddclient? :|12:07
naliothsector10: if it's available to linux/ubuntu i'm sure it does12:07
dooglusthread: even if you did, the terminal field would be set - not '???'...12:07
robotgeekelad`: Applications -> system tools12:07
Pyroand still nobody helps... :(12:07
sector10nalioth: i ignored it cause i had no luck in past12:07
dooglusthread: try it, then look in auth.log - you'll see it doesn't put '???'12:08
threaddooglus: hmm yeah... I have no reason to believe my laptop has been hacked, though12:08
sector10pyro: whats wrong?12:08
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elad`Thanks.12:08
dooglusthread: if you    sudo zgrep -F '???' /var/log/auth.log*     do you see any pattern to when those '???' lines are happening?12:08
apoZ`magnusthe,  thx, i'm new to ubuntu, you see :)12:08
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sector10Pyro: what you got?12:08
Pyrosector10 i have been trying for about 4 hours to get a gba emulator...12:08
Tuxedo_Kamencan anyone help me configuring ddclient???12:09
magnustheapoZ` no worries... now you can browse your network, right?12:09
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Pyroi apt-getted visualboyadvance12:09
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robotgeek247 mb of updates...phew!12:09
apoZ`yea12:09
Pyrocant find any examples of how to make that load roms, i know its command line but i dont NEED a gui12:09
apoZ`In an app like rhytmbox i've got to type the following of smb://  to I guess ?12:09
magnustheapoZ` beware that accessing the shares and files sometimes requires username/password, and I've had problems with that12:09
Pyroi tried gnomeboyadvance, VBA-Frontend, qtVBA, VBA-Express...12:09
apoZ`smb://dominque212:09
apoZ`:)12:10
apoZ`magnusthe,  thx alot12:10
magnustheapoZ` hmm, I have to admit I've never tried having rhythmbox play music off an SMB URI12:10
apoZ`magnusthe, got to go to bed, school in 7 hours :)12:10
threaddooglus: i dunno.. they are in like bunches of 3 happen all at once, and they happen like 8+ times per day, but there are large gaps12:10
Pyrognomeboy gives python parse errors, the others wont make and qtVBA is arsed12:10
apoZ`magnusthe,  i'll figure it out myself, tx for the help, good night12:11
magnustheapoZ` ah, good night12:11
apoZ`magnusthe, thx12:11
threaddooglus: I really couldn't tell you what that is... I can say that my relatively fresh install of breezy on the desktop doesn't have any such entries12:11
sector10Pyro: sorry no clue. did you try looking on their web site?12:11
normal1_i'm black12:11
Pyroyes, no documentation ANYWHERE12:11
sector10visualboyadvance that is12:12
Pyroanyone here us visualboyadvance from command line?12:12
hwaarawhy does my ubuntu machine start up in just 640x480 mode when no screen is connected? I am just using it through VNC but want 1024x768.12:12
djm62that's normal12:12
Pyrosector10 nothing on any of em, including there12:12
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hwaaradjm62, how to fix it?12:12
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djm62hwaara: I think you can change the VNC settings, but since VNC is low bandwidth they default to low-res12:12
elad`How do I install a new icon theme?12:13
Pyrosector10 perhaps you can help with general make errors then ^^ i paste them12:13
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hwaaradjm62, I can just change color resolution.   actually the machine starts up in 640x468 if I connect the screen afterwards too. I think it's the machine itself that chooses this screenless for some reaosn.12:13
hwaarabut I want it to always use 1024x76812:14
sector10Pyro: im at about the end of my battery life12:14
foxinessis there a room for devloper12:14
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Pyrosector10 ok :(12:14
sector10Pyro: try synaptic for any dependencies12:14
Pyroanyone then, i get this error with gnomeboyadvance http://pastebin.com/38931212:14
Pyroi have them all ^^12:14
cmathesonhey guys, i have a bad /etc/bash_completion file, and i want to replace it but when i run 'apt-get install --reinstall bash' it doesn't replace that file... what should i do?12:14
Nghwaara: /var/log/Xorg.0.log should have a very exhaustive list of modes it tested and if/why it rejected them12:14
djm62hwaara: you could get rid of the other modes in xorg.conf, there's a line with them all on12:15
hwaaradjm62, Ng: thanks12:15
Ky0tIkdoes anyone here use icebergradio.com to listen to music??  i can play the streams in firefox, but the boxes that shows the current playing artist / song, doesnt show up..  it doesnt say its missing a plugin or anything, it just doesnt show up.. does anyone know how i can figure out what  the hell im listening to? haha12:15
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Pyroor this error message in VBAEXPRESS http://pastebin.com/38956512:15
djm62can anyone tell me how to manually set up usplash (IE not using dpkg-reconfigure)?12:16
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sector10Pyro: whats the osX in line 5?12:16
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Pyrosorry?12:16
karljpanyone know how to connect to an active directory domain for a oneoff?12:18
sector10Pyro: copy a few of your errors and paste into google12:18
karljpI just want to connect to a single mount point, I don't want to logon to it, or set up anything permanently,12:18
karljpI tried using the "connect to server" on the places menu12:18
karljpand chose windows share, and the username as my domain\username12:18
Pyrosector10 found a problem12:19
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cmathesonhey, if i have bash_completion turned on i get this error everytime i login (or open a terminal): ls: -: No such file or directory12:20
BlueMatHope someone can offer some advice, I dont know if this will work the way I want it to..I have two desktops A & B - PC A is dual booting win & ubuntu and PC b is running purely ubuntu, PC A has a Wireless adapter which connects to my wireless LAN, both PCs have Ethernet cards, but PC B has no wireless card, Is it possible to leech the internet connection of PC A via crossover cable? I know it may be a little off topic but woul12:20
BlueMatd appreciate any help, is this possible through Ubuntu or at all?12:20
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BlissexBlueMat: yes.12:20
cmathesonBlueMat: just set up a a proxy or IP Masq or something12:20
RockyBurtargh this is annoying, totem is playing quicktime movies but no audio !12:21
djm62BlueMat: yep, ipmasq will do it12:21
BlueMatIs it sometype of Inet connection share?12:21
sector10sht laptops mouse going crazy12:21
vengefulrockyburt...if we just kill the people who encode to quicktime the problem is solved12:21
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vengefulsame to those who encome to real12:21
BlueMatMy networking aint the may west, any online resource that may help directly with this?12:22
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cmathesonBlueMat: it's NAT12:22
rob_pBlueMat:  Here's an Internet Connection Sharing Howto for Ubuntu.  It even has a nifty little script to setup the NAT routing for you:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/12:22
speelhey in breezy is there any way for totem not to be used in web browsers?12:22
foxinessam working on breezy C 4 can i upgrade to breezy RC ?12:22
robotgeekvengeful: atleast real has a player for linux (ppc), quicktime doesn't12:22
vengefultrue12:22
naliothBlueMat: does ubuntu recognize your wireless card in A?12:22
vengefulyoul never see it installed on my system tho :-P12:23
robotgeekvengeful: :)12:23
BlueMatrob_p, thanks for that..12:23
BlueMatnalioth, With a little help from NDISWrapper, yes..Broadcom..12:23
rob_pBlueMat:  No prob.  Good luck.12:23
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BlueMatIm using it at the mo12:23
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naliothBlueMat: then yes it is possible.12:23
sector10anybody know where acpi adjustments are?12:24
BlueMatis it going to be a world of pain for a network/NAT newb!?12:24
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vengefulbluemat...if i did it all those years ago using a much crappier OS...im sure youl manage :-D12:24
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rob_pBlueMat:  It's pretty easy if you follow the howto.  The ICS script has a simple installation script and it's well documented.12:25
foxinesshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes can i use thes note to upgarde my system to breezy RC from breezy c 412:25
Pyrowhich package contains sdl-config?12:25
sector10how do you turn on cpu throttle?12:25
BlueMatSo what Ill be basically doing is thelling B to look at A for Inet...12:26
Pyronevermind12:26
naliothPyro: open a terminal and type "apt-file search sdl-config12:26
BlueMatwill have a read of the howto, thanks all12:26
naliothBlueMat: enable a dhcp server in your A box12:26
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foxinessis there a room -channel- for developer?12:26
naliothBlueMat: which looks for internet via the wireless and dhcps the wired nic12:26
naliothfoxiness: #ubuntu-devel12:26
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mirakI fixed the initrd ppc problem for macintosh12:27
mirakif there is anyone in charge of that here ...12:27
foxinessnalioth did you hear "my hero of today"12:27
threadOkay, here's my situation. (had to copy the text file over with my mp3 player) http://rafb.net/paste/results/TR2hry35.html12:27
makkkcan someone help me be able to write to my FAT partition?12:27
Pyrogot that nailed, now to find FLU/Flu_File_Chooser.h ...12:28
mirakhowever that's not satisfying because I used the mkinitrd method instead of the new mkinitramfs12:28
threadmy wireless is suddenly not working for me! looks like I'm connected, but I can't reach any other machines12:28
BergcubeQuestion:  Does anyone have experience running the Cobian backup utility for Windows ( http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm ) in connection with a Ubuntu server?  I get it to go as it should using ordinary FTP, but not using SSL.  As the server will be on the Internet permanently I would prefer not to leave ordinary FTP open...  Anyone?12:28
naliothfoxiness: thank you12:28
naliothubotu: tell makkk about mountwindows12:28
Pyrosector10 ever hear of FLU/Flu_File_Chooser.h?12:28
BlueMatWhats the heads up on current distro, gonna reinstall on a box at work, dont wanna start a row, but should I go with hoary or wait 2/3 days for breezy? had a bad exp. with XORG and dell onboard graphics, seemed to be a memory issue of some sort on boot - Would this have been likely sorted out in forthcoming release?12:29
naliothBergcube: did you read the docs that came with it? it says it's ssl aware12:29
sector10Pyro: it has something to do with widgets12:29
naliothBlueMat: might as well wait til next week12:30
vengefulid say breezy is ok to install12:30
vengefultbh i havent noticed a single bug12:30
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Pyroright... lol12:30
sector10Pyro: sorry no clue12:31
Ky0tIkcan someone look at the source information on a page that contains java script, and see what fonts need to be installed for it to display the java correctly??  the site is www.icebergradio.com  and if you create an account you can listen to the stations, if you have mplayer set up properly..  the nowplaying section in the java just doesnt display..  can someone help me to figure out what I need to do?12:31
sector10Pyro: you can find it on the net12:31
Pyrosadly i cant, i always goole before askign anything12:31
Bergcubenalioth~  Yes, of course I did.  :-)  And yes it does say so.  I've used the "help" forum on the Cobian site as well.  The best advice it's possible to get is "fiddle with the parameters and it'll probably work sooner or later".  I flat out refuse to approach a problem in that way.  Rather use another software if that is the best advice I can get.12:31
sector10so im just waisting time12:32
naliothBergcube: well, i can only offer you teh same advice. fiddle with the configs12:32
sector10i cant find it either12:32
naliothBergcube: it sucks the instructions are so vague12:32
sector10anybody know how to adjust acpi or cpu throttle?12:32
threadWhat does this mean when I run dhclient?: ip length 576 disagrees with bytes received 580. accepting packet with data after udp payload.12:32
makkknalioth, i ran your script and got: By default the disks will be writable only by root and12:32
makkkAndrei Makhanov (mak)12:32
makkkDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)12:32
makkky12:32
makkkerror: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_112:32
makkkIgnoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab12:32
makkkNo usable windows/mac partitions found12:33
apollo2011Hi everyone, I have been having a problem with XMMS and the iTouch plugin.  Ever since I upgraded to Breezy last night, I have been unable to enable the iTouch plugin without crashing XMMS.  I looked on the Ubuntu Bugzilla, and the same error was filed by someone in 2004 under Warty.  It was later deduced that the problem was caused by the fact that the user was on a stable/unstable Warty system.  Is it possible that there is an inconsistency on my12:33
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apollo2011system that is cuasing this problem? or is it a true bug? The other thing, is that the same plugin WORKS on my laptop, which I also just upgraded to Breezy12:33
sector10arrggg12:33
Bergcubenalioth~  Yeah.  I prefer reading "everything" until I understand it and then set the parameters correct the first time.  (I'm one of those they write 1000+ page technical reference books for..... )12:33
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tristanmike!tell makkk about windowsdrives12:33
sector10makkk:dont do that12:33
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jwd_I need somewhere to add to my sources list to get window maker12:33
foxinesshow can i install the driver for "smart link" on breezy please?12:33
naliothtristanmike: he had the script, and flooded me with a question about it12:33
makkknalioth, but it still doesnt work12:34
naliothmakkk: please dont paste in here12:34
makkki'm back12:34
makkksorry about that12:34
tristanmikeahh, sorry12:34
Pyrodanm, apparently FLU is part of FLTK libraries, but i have them!12:34
jwd_I still have can't get the system gnome to come up after login12:34
jwd_makes no sense12:34
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makkkso, as i was saying, i ran the script, that was the output. I cant seem to be able to write to it12:35
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sector10anybody running notebook?12:35
BergcubeI'll start googling for other backup software.  Thanks for listening, nalioth.  Until next time.12:35
naliothmakkk: in a pastbin, what does "sudo fdisk -l" tell you?12:35
naliothBergcube: rsync12:35
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Kenseyso does Grub or anything else care if partitions are out of order on a disk?12:35
threadWhat are the possible reasons that I wouldn't be able to get any ping response from my wireless router when I received the dhcp response FROM the server, and I have the proper ip and everything?12:36
Kenseylike, in physical oder, I have hda1. hda3, hda2{hda5}12:36
threadthis router IS responding to ping requests...12:36
Bergcubenalioth~  Errrr.  Well, I don't feel ready to install Cygwin on the Windows machines in order to get rsync....  But the thought is good.12:36
BergcubeBye!12:36
Kenseythread: mtu/mss issues?12:36
threadbut something is wrong between getting the dhcp and actually being able to communicate with the network12:36
makkknalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/298012:36
threadKensey: what's that?12:36
naliothBergcube: makkk now paste your /etc/fstab to a pastebin12:37
threadKensey: I'm reading some stuff now... any things I could try before I do a bunch of research?12:37
threadKensey: I didn't do anything weird that would have caused this except maybe upgrade some packages within my breezy12:38
DreamgliderHey i have updated and dist-upgrade to 5.10 RC and now in GRUB i can only see Ubuntu 2.6.12-9-686, Ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 and ubuttu 2.6.12-8-386, i dont see WindowsXP nor Fedora core4! can i tell GRUB to scan for other os?es ?12:38
KenseyI've seen this on certain devices.  Basically the network device is trying to send packets that are bigger than the router is willing to handle.12:38
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threadKensey: interesting.... what does one do about it?12:38
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makkknalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/298112:38
threadKensey: this all worked fine for the last few months, mind you12:38
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threadKensey: this is an all of a sudden thing12:38
Kenseythe default MTU is usually 1500 bytes but e.g. Windows connection sharing won't work unless your MTU is more like 125012:38
Kenseyset the MTU for the interface lower, usually12:39
Kenseywhat interface are you using?12:39
threadeth012:39
kbrooksi want to speed my net up12:39
kbrookshow to do that12:39
kbrooksits a /proc trick12:39
B_166-ER-Xchange your isp12:40
kbrooksB_166-ER-X: no i said /proc trick12:40
naliothmakkk: man fstab is your friend12:40
Kenseytry (in a root terminal) ifconfig eth0 mtu 120012:40
makkknalioth, thanks12:40
threadKensey: done12:41
Kenseythen renew DHCP and see if that helps12:41
threadKensey: still can't ping12:41
threadrenewed dhcp, still can't ping12:41
Kenseywhat do you get?  timeout or unreachable?12:41
threadwill it time out eventually? it just shows me the first line and hangs...12:41
Kenseyusually it will time out after some number of seconds12:41
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threadKensey: i'm still waiting...12:42
Kenseydunno man.12:42
threadKensey: it was a good thought. got any others? =p12:42
Kenseywhat kind of Ethernet device is it?12:42
aleitnershall i add a bug about network-manager in malone or bugzilla?12:42
threadKensey: ipw220012:42
threadit worked JUST GREAT only the other day12:42
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threadwhat software package might influence this sort of thing?12:43
Pyroright... i have visualboyadvance downloaded, (via apt-get) when i load in terminal it says command not found12:43
threadthat I might roll back or something12:43
Kenseywireless by who?12:43
Pyrowhy wont linux let me play GBA? hehe12:43
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threadhow can I tell what packages were updated the last time ?12:43
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threadKensey: Intel12:43
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Kenseyhm.  I'm assuming you're using WEP on your AP.12:43
threadyeah12:43
threadhex key12:43
Kenseyor WPA, but that's a whole other can o'worms :)12:43
threadit has always worked just fine12:44
Kenseywhat does iwconfig tell you about your interface?12:44
vengefulim gonna try and get wpa working sometime this week hehe12:44
threadKensey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TR2hry35.html12:44
Kenseyvengeful: I had all *kinds* of fun getting AES working with the Ralink 2.0.5.0 driver12:44
threadKensey: if I run iwconfig as root, it shows me my encryption key12:45
dooglusthread: sorry - I went away for a bit.12:45
vengefulim hoping theyl suddenly get native support before release lol12:45
threaddooglus: np12:45
Dreamgliderafter a upgrade my GRUB only shows me Ubuntu, i have WinXP pro and Fedora on one disk and ubuntu on another, how can i get GRUB to show me WinXP and Fedora allso ?12:45
dooglusdid you notice that those '???' root su's last for less than a second usually?12:45
threadDreamglider: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lstg12:45
dooglusand they're irregular?  I have a gap of a whole week where they didn't happen at all - rather like they're initiated by a human, not a script...12:46
Dreamgliderthread, cant it be done automatic ?12:46
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Pyroahh ok, its case depenedant. VisualBoyAdvance works. whats the parameter to make it load a file?12:46
threadum12:46
threaddo we have a gui grub configurator tool yet?12:46
Kenseyno idea, thread. :)12:46
Kensey(on your wireless)12:46
threadKensey: my sh_t is seriously f_cked12:46
threadfor no reason, all of a sudden. how frustrating12:46
dooglusthread: you've been hacked the same way I was :)12:47
threaddooglus: do you really think so?12:47
threadI have to admit, I don't understand those entries12:47
dooglusthread: I'm running windows now - put it that way.12:47
Madpilotdooglus: you seriously think Ubuntu got hacked?12:47
threaddooglus: your networking just stopped working like this?12:47
dooglusthread: I think those entries are suspicious enough that I don't want to run breezy again until this is fixed.12:47
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RouninHi... Breezy currently seems to have completely non-functional packages for probably the input method SCIM at the moment.. Any chance of getting this fixed after the release, or is there nothing to do now but wait six months?12:47
threadbogus12:48
dooglusthread: my networking still works - but my apt suddently got broken...12:48
solidgrooveanyone use prism54 wifi with smc2802w12:48
threadhm...w ell that's a different problem then12:48
djm62dooglus: have you sent what evidence you have to anyone?12:48
dooglusMadpilot: I don't know if breezy got hacked, but it looks like I got hacked.  I guess there's a hole in breezy which lets people hack it - but I'm guessing.12:48
dooglusdjm62: all I did was post this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7367112:48
threadI don't really want to reinstall12:48
threadbleh12:49
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theblueHi all.12:49
dooglusthread: if you reinstall, what's to stop it happening again...12:49
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theblueCan anyone tell me how to find out what my current DNS servers are?12:49
threadu have a point... but what else do you do12:49
threadi'm not about to run windows :)12:49
dooglusthread: the only evidence is those strange su's.  if the attacker doesn't su then you won't know he's there...12:49
cevizogludooglus, you think you got hacked because apt isn't working?  how odd12:49
dooglusthread: it's really annoying.  i was enjoying finding and reporting breezy bugs, but I don't feel safe running it any more.12:49
kwilcoxHas anyone had success setting up duel monitors in a Debain base distro?  Not a mirror, but an extension?12:50
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doogluscevizoglu: no, I think I got hacked because 12 hours worth of logs got deleted, because a bunch of apt files disappeared, and because root on terminal '???' periodically su's as me!12:50
thebluekwilcox: I've been trying to too, but I know its possible.12:50
threadkwilcox: yeah, read about xinerama12:50
Pyrooh come on! someone here must be able to play gba games!12:50
djm62dooglus: odd unexplained things are allowed to happen on breezy...12:50
Dreamgliderccan anyone help me edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?12:50
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djm62for the next 3 days12:50
Pyrosudo gedit filename12:51
threadDreamglider: read the comments12:51
logikal_3 days to breezy?12:51
kwilcoxtheblue: I have it working so there are 2 seperate screns, but I cannot drag a program from one to the other... i have to start the program on one of the screens12:51
Prof_Frinkyup12:51
logikal_will I have to update from the breezy im on?12:51
thebluekwilcox: See Xinerama.12:51
dooglusdjm62: do you see '???' in your auth logs?      sudo zgrep -F '???' /var/log/auth.log*12:51
Prof_Frinkor, 2 days 10 min ;)12:51
kwilcoxk ty guys ill check it out12:51
theblueCan anyone tell me how to find my DNS servers?12:51
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bur[n] erlogikal_: yes12:51
dooglustheblue: where did you last see them?12:52
thebluedooglus: Seriously12:52
n6modAnyone having trouble on amd64 with the new kernels?12:52
bur[n] ertheblue: why you need to know?  don'tyou just use DHCP?12:52
dooglustheblue: what do you want to know?12:52
cevizogludooglus: yes12:52
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vengefulok stop making me paranoid12:52
theblueI need to configure my ATA box, and it needs a DNS ip.12:52
n6modOr, alternately, how do I roll back to the previous kernel .debs?12:52
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theblueAnd it doesn't support DHCP.12:52
doogluscevizoglu: could you paste them in the pastebin please?12:52
bur[n] erwtf is ATA box?12:52
Kenseydoog: I see 4 such entries all from the same day12:52
theblueAnalog Telephone Adapter.12:52
bur[n] ertheblue: in any event /etc/resolv.conf is your dns servers12:52
Kenseyabout 2 weeks ago12:52
bur[n] ers/is/are12:53
theblueThanks, bur[n] er.12:53
logikal_how bad is it going to be to update from 5.10 preview breezy to the released one?12:53
foxinessthe smart link driver work with Hory but not breezy12:53
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bur[n] erlogikal_: just use synaptic to upgrade... it's trivial12:53
cevizogludooglus, are you talking about entries that look like: localhost su[10651] : + ??? root:dooglus12:53
vengefulid of thought once all the downloads are done its the same?12:53
doogluslogikal_: it'll be a hundred or two megs of download I'd guess.  OO.o2, xorg, etc.12:53
doogluscevizoglu: yes.  what are those?12:53
foxinessis there away to lat it work with breezy 'smartlink driver'12:53
djm62:D12:54
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bur[n] erwhere are ubuntu nightly .iso's?12:54
threadHAHAHA! BITCHEZ12:54
threadI booted an older kernel12:54
threadsuddenly I'm back in business12:54
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Kenseysounds like a kernel upgrade hosed a driver12:55
threadthe kernel I was running was 2.6.13.2, which I compiled myself12:55
jwd_Hey I got a problem12:55
threadand it DID work just fine12:55
foxinessway linux break driver on every kernel realese12:55
Dis-Abled_Is thier a way to do a minimal server installation?12:56
nalioththread: language please, unless you are in #veterinaryclinic12:56
foxinessthis happen from kernel 2.412:56
sorush20I'm having the weirdest problem...12:56
doogluscevizoglu: it's kind of hard to google for them, 'cos google (and msn, and yahoo) won't search for "???"12:56
naliothDis-Abled_: yes, choose server install12:56
PyroROCK ON! I CAN PLAY GBA GAMES12:56
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jwd_nalioth: remember earlier when I was asking about /etc/network/interfaces12:56
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Dis-Abled_nalioth: Any way to get even less stuff with apt-get remove ing12:57
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naliothDis-Abled_: yes you can do that12:57
erirlaris there a tool i can use to find files by size, name and stuff like that?12:57
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Kagen_Hey, ubuntu seem to run slow on my computer, is there anything I can do to make it run faster?12:58
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djm62erirlar: "find"12:58
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sorush20I'm running a vid on gmplayer.. and the the sound seemes to have problem .. it keeps justmping back and forth form stereo to non-stereo12:58
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djm62erirlar: "locate" to search by name, quickly (cached)12:58
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Dis-Abled_nalioth: Any Ubuntu stuff on server security or should I look at the Debian stuff12:59
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erirlardjm62, can i search sub-dir's and delete them an easy way after i find them with "find" or "locate" ?12:59
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jwd_does gnome have network configurations stuff?12:59
naliothDis-Abled_: it is mostly the same12:59
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djm62erirlar: find is extremely configurable12:59
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satafterhI am trying to copy avi's over home networks from and xp machine to mine, I can copy most other files but error keeps coming up that it cant read the avi's. I know the avi's are good files12:59
erirlarok12:59
dabaRhi. I tried installing ubuntu Hoary on a Inspiron 9300 laptop from Dell last night. It failed. When I press enter at the boot prompt for installation, the one that says press enter for default install. I get vertical lines, that change colors on the screen, and that is where it hangs. Any ideas at all? I can not find anything saying something like that on google.12:59
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naliothsatafterh: /msg ubotu w32codecs01:00
jwd_anyone wanna help me01:00
erirlardjm62, seems like i have to check out the manual then01:00
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djm62erirlar: but if you're looking outside your home folder, make sure to do a dry run before any automated deletion process...it is the way of righteousness01:00
dabaRIn fact, I see only positive reviews, that it worked for ppl.01:00
Dis-Abled_for the very lazy -> gnome-search-tool01:00
jwd_I got something probably simple01:00
cevizogludooglus, not sure, but at least one of those entries occurred when I wasn't in range of any networks, which means it was logged by my using the computer normally01:00
naliothjwd_: we see you. obviously nobody knows an answer for you atm01:00
erirlardjm62, no, it's in my home dir01:00
jwd_no I ave changes01:00
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Kenseythis is *wacky*.  I can change what Ubuntu calls a partition by changing what I refer to it as in /etc/fstab01:00
satafterhi can play the avi's fine, its not a codec issue, i just cant copy them over the network01:00
jwd_I have changes01:00
erirlardjm62, just got allot of junk there i would like to clean up01:00
Dis-Abled_tks01:01
doogluscevizoglu: I've had the computer booted and off the net for 24 hours now - and those entries have stopped...  it just seems fishy to me.01:01
Kenseyor at least, what it calls the root partition01:01
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jwd_I reverted back to my old interfaces file and it booted fine01:01
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jwd_is there gnome specific network config stuff?01:01
doogluscevizoglu: nobody can explain why root would be su'ing to my account, either01:01
naliothsatafterh: zip them up01:01
Dis-Abled_nalioth: tks01:01
djm62erirlar: find can do it automatically, if you can specify it exactly, rm and some wildcards can also get you pretty far01:01
Dis-Abled_this joint is hoppin!01:01
doogluscevizoglu: as for the logs disappearing...  that's really suspicious01:01
erirlardjm62: thanks for your help will check it out now01:02
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TylerDurdenwhat does usefbdev do?01:02
Kagen_Hey, I can only get one sound channel for some reason, I want to be able to use more than one program that uses sound, what can i do?01:02
TylerDurdenin nvidia drivers01:02
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jwd_I think I found it01:03
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jwd_eth0 was not enabled in Gnome Network preferences01:03
[N] ameman just did a clean install of breezy... 488 updates01:04
vengeful;-) that could do it ;-)01:04
cevizogludooglus, looks to me like cron is responsible... but it's just a guess01:04
Seveas[N] ame, that was an old install CD :)01:04
[N] ameyes01:04
Seveas(anything older than 2 days is old)01:04
[N] ameit was... but its moving bfast01:05
[N] ameput a new HD in my laptop01:05
[N] ame40gig 7200rpm01:05
cevizogludooglus, and you're sure your log files aren't set to be deleted every few days?01:05
satafterhnalioth- zipping the avi's may allow me to copy them, but its strange that I cant copy them with out being zipped01:05
[N] amemy laptop is now as fast or faster than my desktop01:05
asparaguiwill there be some automagic method for the hoary->breezy transistion?01:05
naliothsatafterh: with windows i'm not surprised at anything01:06
naliothubotu: tell asparagui about upgrade2breezy01:06
djm62asparagui: other than updating sources.list?01:06
dabaRSeveas: haev you ever heard of a laptop booting the live, or install cd, and the screen going blank(really, it gets somevertical lines that change color) after the boot prompt?01:06
Seveasasparagui, yes, it's called apt-get dist-upgrade ;)01:06
vengefulthere already is, asparagui01:06
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asparaguii'm aware of that.01:06
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naliothdabaR: yes i have01:06
asparaguibtw, it gives a pile of stat errors on ppc.01:06
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dabaRok, what can I do?01:06
SeveasdabaR, no01:06
KenseyWhat's the best way to move part of the existing all-on-/ filesystem to a new partition?01:06
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djm62Kensey: has the partition been created01:06
asparaguiwhat i meant, will there be a method for people to upgrade without the command line?01:06
Kenseydjm: yep, and I created ext3 on it01:07
djm62asparagui: yeah, you can upgrade01:07
asparaguicool.01:07
naliothasparagui: yes. synaptic01:07
KenseyI need to decide what to move though, how to move it and how to refer to it after the move01:07
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djm62Kensey: you can cp the entire tree01:07
satafterh#nalioth- you think it might be an xp thing??01:07
XtRAck. Why can't I su - ?01:08
cevizogludooglus, every single entr ylike the one you mentioned happens 2-9 minutes after CRON logs an entry01:08
naliothsatafterh: yes i do01:08
djm62Kensey: mounting the partition on /mnt/whatever01:08
Kenseycurrently of the 1800 MB in use 1400 is /usr01:08
naliothubotu: tell XtR about root01:08
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XtRomg. root is disabled?01:08
HrdwrBoboh noes01:08
HrdwrBobXtR: sudo -s01:08
HrdwrBob!rootsudo01:08
ubotumethinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:08
satafterhnalioth - likly right01:08
djm62XtR: when you think about it, it makes as much sense as mv meaning rename01:09
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HrdwrBobdjm62: but it doesn't01:09
HrdwrBobit means 'move'01:09
[N] ameXtR,  you dont need root with sudo01:09
Kenseydjm: if I copy /usr to the new partition, and mount it as /usr it'll mask the existing /usr on the existing partition, yeah?01:09
XtRWhat does sudo -s do?01:09
djm62Kensey: yeah01:09
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HrdwrBobXtR: gives you a root shell01:09
asparaguistarts root shell from current environ.01:10
dabaRnalioth: anything I can do about the install in such a case?01:10
grgcsmchow do i access kde?01:10
Kenseycan the existing /usr be deleted after that without unmounting the new /usr or booting single-user?01:10
naliothdabaR: choose another video driver at boot01:10
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Iam8upi'm having problems starting X - is there something i should be looking for in the error log that comes up?01:10
grgcsmchow do i access kde?01:10
Kenseylike (and this is probably wrong) can I do something akin to rm -rf /dev/hda5/usr?01:11
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ranokmy trash icon went away, now its just a big red 'X'01:11
naliothgrgcsmc: at your login menu, under 'sessions' (if you've installed kubuntu-desktop)01:11
[N] amegrgcsmc,  install it through synaptic01:11
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grgcsmcwhere? i couldnt find it01:11
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CWhizHello, I'm very new to Ubuntu and desktop Linux in general.  I'm running an up-to-date Breezy preview release.  Can somebody please tell me whether it's easy to mix sound from multiple programs together?  In particular, I want to use mpd without stopping the sounds in Gnome.  I've already followed the instructions at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, but they didn't solve the problem for me.  Thanks :)01:11
grgcsmcthat is , kde alone01:11
sorush20guys what is PCM in Mplayer01:11
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dabaRnalioth: do you get what I am saying tho? I put in the cd, reboot, then it asks me whether I want default<enter> or server<enter> and I press enter, then the screen goes into those vertical lines thing.01:12
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asparaguipcm is uncompressed cd audio, sorta.01:12
asparagui48khz 16 bit stereo.01:12
djm62Kensey: can you go down to single user, unmount the new partition, rm /usr, mount the new partition on /usr and go up? why reboot?01:12
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crimsunCWhiz: breezy already dmixes by default.01:12
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naliothdabaR: there are video modes you can pass, but i'm not sure where to find them01:12
djm62Kensey: but do make sure that the new partition has the right ownership and perms01:12
TheFallenAngelwhat game is good for ubuntu?01:12
frickelfreeciv01:12
slewhow do i update gtk?01:12
sorush20I think all universitys on the planet that run computer sciences course should make it compulsory for the students to do three programming things for opnesource..01:13
naliothslew: synaptic01:13
Kenseywell don't you essentially have to reboot to go single user?  I mean you could just init 1 or whatever but that's basically the same thing without the brief hardware reset01:13
Kenseydjm01:13
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dabaRcrimsun: when installing on a Dell Inspiron 9300, I put in the cd, reboot, and then it asks me what type of install I want. I press enter, for default, and it jjust hangs, with colors on the screen. Do you have any pointers?01:13
[N] ameTheFallenAngel, if you like FPS you can get Enemy territory01:13
WinZcan anybody explain me how to set up w32codecs? there are no same package in synaptic01:13
MadpilotTheFallenAngel: Enemy Territory?01:13
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Kenseydjm: there are cp flags to preserve timestamps, owners & permissions, yeah?01:13
bytefoowowow lots of xorg updates o_O01:13
Madpilot!tell WinZ about w32codecs01:13
TheFallenAngelthanks01:13
TheFallenAngelis in one person?01:13
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crimsundabaR: check the help/options function key(s)01:14
djm62Kensey: yeah...prejudice against the hardware reset, it's cleaner01:14
CWhizcrimsun, could something be wrong with the way mpd is set up, then?  I don't mind doing my own research if you can point me in the right direction.01:14
[N] ameTheFallenAngel, ET is a multiplayer onling game01:14
naliothdabaR: you can also ctrl-alt-f3 and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver01:14
WinZMadpilot, thanks a lot!!01:14
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TheFallenAngelok01:14
TheFallenAngel:)01:14
kelsey23is anyone here a 5.10 developer?01:14
bloodnikWhat do I edit to put a new launcher in my apps menu?01:14
dabaRnalioth: even before the installation?01:14
crimsunCWhiz: I don't know how mpd is configured by default. What is it?01:14
crimsunkelsey23: a number of us work on various aspects, from core to universe and multiverse.01:15
naliothdabaR: i'm confused. if you're installing, use the boot parameters as crimsun pointed out01:15
bloodnikActually01:15
kelsey23I want to know if the update bubble that's like is windoze XP can be turned off?01:15
bloodnikNever mind01:15
bloodnikI just found a new feature01:15
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dabaRnalioth: Ill do that, we'll see.01:15
kelsey23the one that is going to be in 5.1001:15
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daxxarHi :)01:15
bloodnikkelsey23: right-click the update icon and turn notifications off01:15
daxxarHow can I check what driver Ubuntu is using for my xorg? (And if neccessary, change it)01:15
kelsey23ok, thanks. I was worried it was becoming idiot Linux01:15
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kelsey23how about the boot splash screen?01:16
crimsundaxxar: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you01:16
daxxarInstalled it today on my laptop (Breezy RC), quite impressed. Some time since I've used Linux on anything but servers, so GUI was cute.01:16
daxxarcrimsun, thanks01:16
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transgressanyone in here running amd64 with breezy?01:16
Kagen_I wish..01:16
cafuego_transgress: I am.01:16
Kagen_just a 300mhz..01:16
daxxarBut the Norwegian mirror for ubuntu seems to be a bit broken. (Missing ISOs (dead links)), DVD image was corrupt, and such.01:16
crimsunkelsey23: edit the appropriate line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and update-grub, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r), then reboot01:17
transgresscafuego_ can you tell me if there is still no package for ndiswrapper other than ndiswrapper source?01:17
twysteddaxxar, then use another mirror :)01:17
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vengefulkagen, i want a new comp too..more out of greed than need tho01:17
bytefoowhat the...mad debconf errors :-/01:17
kelsey23alright thanks. I haved tried the new version out yet. I am glad those features can be turned off, though :-)01:17
cafuego_transgress: the kernel modules comes with the precompiled kernel: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko01:18
slewnalioth, thanks, you rox0rz01:18
CWhizcrimsun, it's a daemon that plays music.  I don't mind using something else, but I had trouble getting RhythmBox to play.  It would list all the albums and artists, but not show any songs to be played.  I'm just trying to get MP3 playback to work.01:18
Kagen_ubuntu lags horrible for me, if I can't find a way to speed this up, I might have to go back to win 2k, atleast that runs faster on this old POS computer.01:18
kelsey23are the screenshots on Ubuntulinux.org for Brezzy?01:18
transgresscafuego_ okay thanks.  when i was using it on my lappy before it didn't have a package for it yet.  you had to hand compile it.  so i got tired of doing that each kernel update... went to fedora.01:19
DjKriticalKagen_, what graphics card to you run?01:19
crimsunCWhiz: I presume you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?01:19
naliothKagen_: did you get your compiling done?01:19
cafuego_transgress: And the ndiswrapper-urils package is in main.01:19
crimsunCWhiz: (for Rhythmbox)01:19
daxxartwysted, I did, after some painful hours of trying to find out why my DVD image was broken. (And why I couldn't find i368 CD installer)01:19
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Kagen_DjKritical, nVidia GeForce 2 mx 440 64 meg video, I already installed the drivers01:19
tuxedo_kamenhi everyone, once again01:19
naliothKagen_: use another desktop manager01:19
Kagen_nalioth, no, not yet01:19
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Kagen_which one do you suggst for an old system?01:19
daxxarIs "ati" the correct module to use for ATi Mobility cards? It feels as if my xorg is a bit, hm, unresponsive. Could this be due to me installing updates at the moment?01:20
twystedxfce01:20
bytefooyah xfce01:20
tuxedo_kamennalioth, I think it is working fine now, thanks for everything! :)01:20
naliothtuxedo_kamen: great!01:20
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nalioth!es01:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:20
cafuego_daxxar: 'ati' is correct for ati cards, yes.01:20
CWhizcrimsun, I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and that looks like it installs gstreamer0.8-mad among other things.01:20
TrashcanI installed the latest updated and my toolbar moved around (tray and clock on the far left, buttons on the right, menus in the middle) - how do I change it back to menu on the left, buttons in the middle?01:20
Kagen_xfce is much lighter I believe, but i'm not sure how to go about installing that gui, is there a guide you can lead me to?01:20
Trashcandragging stuff around doesn't do anything01:20
crimsunKagen_: hoary or breezy?01:20
vengefulsynapic does it all for you01:20
naliothKagen_: simple. "sudo apt-get install xfce4"01:20
Kagen_crimsun, breezy01:20
crimsunKagen_: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop01:20
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Kagen_damn, that is simple, thx.01:20
naliothcrimsun: slick!01:20
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tuxedo_kamennalioth, however I have another question... is there any channel for people who want to contribute software to ubuntu?01:20
vengefulis that is too intensive consider ice or something01:20
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naliothcrimsun: when is the e17-ubuntu desktop coming?01:21
naliothtuxedo_kamen: #ubuntu-motu01:21
cafuego_nalioth; hell, freezing, you know...01:21
crimsunnalioth: when someone works on it :p01:21
naliothcafuego_: pshaw!01:21
vengefulgreat question , nalioth..waiting for that one myself01:21
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daxxarIs there a nicer installer for Ubuntu than the Debian-style console-based one?01:21
cafuego_nalioth: basically, there needs to be an e17 first ;-)01:21
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cafuego_daxxar: yes, the debian basedf old console one.01:22
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daxxarErr?01:22
naliothcafuego_: i'm askin uncle google now how to bring it to my local screen01:22
cafuego_daxxar: The one in warty.01:22
daxxarI mean, like something using a framebuffer or something. (:01:22
cafuego_daxxar: Nope.01:22
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daxxarOk01:22
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daxxarI started using Ubuntu today, so no experience with Warty. ;)01:22
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ubotuOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of i_)01:22
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cafuego_daxxar: Waiting for X on installation is a big fat waste of lots of people's time ;-)01:23
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cafuego_ubotu: wtf are you doing!?01:23
ubotu...but wtf is already something else...01:23
daxxarcafuego_, true, true. But a framebuffer wouldn't be that slow to init, right?01:23
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Kagen_installing xfce now01:23
cafuego_daxxar: Just X when there's no need for it is slow (I find)01:23
kamikizzlehey....can someone help me with wine....i can't install wine tools and when i try to open windows apps it messes up....01:23
daxxarcafuego_, hehe, ok. :)01:23
cafuego_i_: What happened to the bot?01:23
i_))01:24
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daxxarHeh, I love how all the config I've done thus far is language + input language, wlan ssid + wep and partitioning.01:24
cafuego_Find, I'll go to the logs then.01:24
daxxarAnd it just works. Mouse, keyboard, xorg, sound, wlan. <301:25
StylusEaterany help with a ma111 netgear usb wireless nic?01:25
daxxarAny MSN client installed per default?01:25
cafuego_!ops01:25
ubotufrom memory, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth01:25
daxxarIf not, anyone recommend a GUI based one?01:25
djm62daxxar: gaim01:25
naliothcafuego_: crying wolf?01:25
cafuego_i_ is fucking with the bot. Can you make him be gone?01:25
HedgeMagedaxxar: gaim01:25
Iam8upcan anyone help me with starting x windows? i just now finished installing ubuntu and it crashes upon starting01:26
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kelsey23is there anyway to turn the roll window up option on from the icon in the window's upper-left corner?01:26
holycowhey all01:26
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djm62daxxar: which will also do all those loser protocols ;)01:26
holycowanyone know of a decent gnome vpn client?01:26
StylusEaterhi cow01:26
daxxarWow, even an rdesktop client here! :o01:26
StylusEatercow: not sure01:26
holycowhola01:26
kelsey23anyone know?01:26
Kagen_OK, it's done downloading XFCE01:27
Kagen_how do I start it?01:27
jwd_why would gnome recognice eth0 interface but not eth1?01:28
[N] amekelsey23, its in the windows settings01:28
kelsey23thanks01:28
crimsunKagen_: log out of GNOME and choose Xfce from the Session menu01:28
Madpilotcafuego_: could you get ubotu to join -offtopic again please?01:28
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Kagen_crimsun, thanks, brb01:28
gui2703hi there, I would like to create a live cd that boots, DHCP, start X and open Firefox on a specific website, any directions?01:28
tuxedo_kamenmore questions...01:28
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kelsey23it's more like Mac OS now!01:29
tuxedo_kamenwhat codecs should I install, to be able to see videos in this ubuntu?01:29
cafuego_Madpilot: I'm tossing up whether to just turn him off. I don't need fuckwits trying to corrupt him01:29
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djm62gui2703: start at knopper.net01:29
Madpilotcafuego_: what's going wrong?01:29
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tristanmikekelsey23, how did you do it?01:29
gui2703thank you djm62.01:29
daxxarHrrm, I wonder if this monitor supports > 1024x76801:29
daxxarUbuntu won't let me, atleast.01:29
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cafuego_Madpilot: He seems to be full of priv problems; anyone cna make him join channels.01:30
Madpilotdaxxar: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:30
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kelsey23tristanmike: system > preferances > Windows01:30
kagen_OMG this is SO MUCH FASTER01:30
Seveascafuego_, if you want to turn off ubotu, please export its database so I can enter it in mine01:30
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naliothyes please cafuego_ i'd like the db, also01:30
vengefulhurray, kagen01:30
Blissexkagen_: sort of...01:30
tristanmikekelsey23, oh yeah, there it is...lol, been looking for that for a while now too, thanx01:30
Madpilotcafuego_: that's not cool... hopefully a fix can be found...01:30
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Blissexkagen_: I found that the real killers are the web browsers.01:31
kelsey23tristanmike: your'e welcome ;-)01:31
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ubotuOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of seveas)01:31
daxxarIs Flux/BlackBox less demanding than the default Gnome setup? (I assume so?)01:31
SeveasNo I did not make it leave...01:31
pussfellercould me adding my own custom keyboard files in x be whats making xkeyboard-config not be able to install01:31
Blissexkagen_: sure GNOME is a pig, but web browsers eventually grows indefinitely.01:31
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kagen_Blissex, gnome was laggy, period. just trying to type in gaim was laggy01:31
djm62daxxar: much lighter01:31
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kbrooksubotu: sorry for offending you in -offtopic :(01:31
vengefulim not sure if flux even builds the menus01:31
Boinkhowdy01:31
pussfellerflux is cool01:32
BradCussesAtLinuhas anyone had trouble installing emacs?01:32
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djm62vengeful: if debian-menu still applies, it's cool01:32
pussfellerits great when you need a lot of windows ofpen01:32
Blissexkagen_: ah sure, but if you do much web browsing it will be back to laggy... You are just starting from a lower base with XFCE.01:32
pussfellercasue you can group them01:32
vengefulyeh theres a menu...just not much in it....maybe im confused with another tho01:32
Blissexkagen_: part of the problem with GNOME etc. BTW is that by default all the cool stuff is enabled, and the GNOME is a particularly big pig.01:32
reikicafuego and Seveas are folks chatting the bot to make him do things? I may be able to being in an eggy expert is why I ask. Unless you guys are fine and just need time to look it over01:33
vengefuli personally use xfce4..not because gnome lags..i just like the feel for it01:33
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keffyndmore than one way to fix sound01:33
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Seveasreiki, ubotu is a blootbot, not an egg01:33
sorush20guys my mplayer vid is playing too fast I don't know what to do..01:33
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naliothreiki: cafuego_ is talking with ubotu01:33
BradCussesAtLinucan anybody help me with an emacs installation over ubuntu?01:33
reikiSeveas: okay... my bad. :)  I thought it was an eggy for some reason01:33
daxxarMadpilot, thanks for the link, btw, looking at it now.01:33
kagen_Blissex, Yeah, browsers are a little slow for me, but it's noticably faster, so I am satisfied. I get what you mean, browsers are bad, before unbearable, but I can live with this01:33
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Boinkwhere can I check if hoary i compatible with Sagem fast 800 E2L - adsl modem , or if a package is available for it ? :>01:34
Madpilotdaxxar: np01:34
djm62Boink: wiki.ubuntu.com and search "hardware"01:34
Boinkty01:34
TylerDurdenwhats the command to delete a file?01:34
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cafuego_I hit ubotu with an axe.01:34
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djm62TylerDurden: rm01:35
esacanybody have any success in setting up xsupplicant or wpa_supplicant with authenticating to a microsoft IAS server ?01:35
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kagen_now I just need to find out how to increase my refresh rate, it lets me max it at 60hz for some reason01:35
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djm62TylerDurden: think "ReMove"01:35
BlissexBoink: dont use ADSL modems, use Ethernet based routers/gateways.01:35
TylerDurdenoh ok01:35
TylerDurdenthanks01:35
bimberiBradCussesAtLinu: tell the channel the error you're getting, hopefully someone can help01:35
Boinkcan't afford router for a moment01:35
pupilhas anyone compiled QEMU with KQEMU on ubuntu Breezy,. if so,. I have a few questions,. or if you could recommend a clear guide to doing it01:35
twystedboink is it a pci card or does it plug into usb/ethernet?01:35
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Boinkplain USB01:35
BradCussesAtLinui JUST installed the latest ubuntu, and got the latest updates01:36
twystedyuck lol01:36
Boinkline - modem - usb01:36
Boinkhaha01:36
CWhizThanks crimsun.01:36
twystedboink i wish you luck with getting that to work01:36
Boink:] 01:36
dandelionhello01:36
windexBoink, does the unit have an ethernet port?01:36
StylusEaterdangit...how do you toggle line numbers in vi again?01:36
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StylusEater:senum or something like that?01:36
cevizogluStylusEater, set nu, set nonu01:36
BradCussesAtLinuI then used "apt-get install build-essential" to get the gcc compiler, and "apt-get install libncurses5-dev" to get the ncurses library, so as to install emacs01:36
vengefulboink..old distros like mandrake 9.2 used to support with the fireware...so i dont think youl have too many probs with ubuntu01:36
Boinkno ethernet , USB only01:36
windexBoink, sometimes they have both01:36
windexBoink, ah, you be screwed then01:36
BradCussesAtLinubut I can't get emacs to run outside of the terminal01:36
StylusEatercevizoglu: thx01:37
rajhi .. anybody any idea what could be the problem that in flash apps often any text is not shown ?01:37
Boinkthanks for keeping me motivated :D01:37
vengefuli used to run mandrake wirhour problems....18 months ago. that was with a speedtouch usb01:37
vengefulbest to check your modem makers site01:37
vengefulusually they have a driver01:37
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Boinkthere is microcode01:38
Boinkgot plenty of it01:38
vengefulyes boink01:38
BradCussesAtLinuanybody know how to install emacs so that it runs with it's own gui?01:38
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tuxedo_kamenwhat codecs should I install, to be able to see videos in this ubuntu?? :|01:38
vengefulit should work01:38
Boinklooking for script right now :>01:38
daxxarHmm01:38
zkmasterI have a question regarding installing GTK+ 2.8 - for the configure file, it wants to know where my system files are. where does ubuntu put its system files?01:38
vengefulit will likely ask for it..hopefully it will detect the hardware01:38
tristanmikeraj, you may need to install msttcorefonts01:38
vengefulthen ask for the microcode01:38
daxxarI could only find one value, "50-90Hz". Don't I need two ranges for the monitor?01:38
cafuego_nalioth: I'm making ubotu ignore unauth users again.01:38
vengefulif your in luck it will give exact file name01:38
rajthanks tristanmike01:39
pussfellerhow do i set the locale in perl01:39
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pussfellerapt is complaining01:39
crimsunpussfeller: you can ignore that warning01:39
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BradCussesAtLinuhow do I find out what applications I can install with apt-get?01:39
bimberiBradCussesAtLinu: i don't know emacs much but there is an xemacs21 package available in ubuntu01:39
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rajtuxedo_kamen: if you mean dvds: the decoding codecs for the dvd encryption01:40
naliothcafuego_: sounds good01:40
pussfellerthanks01:40
sentra99was wondering if someone could help me mount my windows drive01:40
BradCussesAtLinuso i can run something like "apt-get install xemacs"?01:40
naliothsentra99: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab01:41
djm62BradCussesAtLinu: do apt-cache search xemacs and see what packages are available01:41
AaronMTshute anybody remember the command to refresh the gnome taskbar01:41
djm62BradCussesAtLinu: but, yeah, apt-get'n'go01:41
bimberiBradCussesAtLinu: yes (except its xemacs21), but this is a good opportunity to get to know synaptic - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:41
dabaRkillall gnome-panel01:41
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BradCussesAtLinuthanks01:41
BradCussesAtLinui will check it out01:42
pussfellerhow do i just dlownload a package, i suspect one is coorupted cause it sez something about dpkg gzip errors01:42
fmasiHi i like to know how to fix the clock time becouse my cloc is advencing time and date whay too fast.01:42
bimberiBradCussesAtLinu: you'll also need to have the "universe" repository enabled - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:42
naliothpussfeller: just run your apt-get again, or get it at packages.ubuntu.com01:42
bimberiBradCussesAtLinu: np :) (and stop cussing :) )01:42
cevizogluwhat's the best tool for diffs across multiple directories?01:42
sentra99where do i save the file ?01:43
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pussfellernalioth: it keeps saying its having trouble overwriting /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xorg01:43
nightswimdiff? :)01:43
daxxarWhich mplayer package should I install? mplayer-586 depends on some libpolyp0 that I can't install (can't find it).01:43
BradCussesAtLinuthis is the 3rd linux i've tried01:43
vengefulfmasi..you could be in a time warp...01:43
vengefulget me the lottery numbers01:43
fmasivengeful what will be time warp ???01:43
jsubl2daxxar, i usually install mozilla-mplayer and let it grab the appropriate one. plus then you will have the moz plugins01:44
cevizoglufmasi, not what, but when01:44
vengefulsorry im just playing..i have no idea ;-)01:44
BradCussesAtLinui'll go pull some more hairs out over ubuntu until i finally give up and buy .NET framework01:44
BradCussesAtLinuthanks again01:44
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cevizogluBradCussesAtLinu, you have to buy it?01:44
daxxarjsubl2, there's a mozilla plugin?01:44
naliothpussfeller: ah, so thats the problem01:44
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daxxarThanks01:44
jsubl2daxxar, np01:44
pussfellerits actually an unpack error01:44
BradCussesAtLinusure01:44
fmasivengeful do yoy mean time zones ? i dont know what is time warp :(01:44
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BradCussesAtLinulike Visual Studio .NET01:44
BradCussesAtLinunot free01:44
zkmasteranyone know what should the default PKG_CONFIG path be for an ubuntu install?01:44
tuxedo_kamenwhat codecs should I install, to be able to see videos in this ubuntu???? (I need some like WMV, RM and DIVX...)01:45
zkmasterim trying to install gtk+ 2.801:45
vengefulfmasi, sorry i was joking01:45
cafuego_Okay, ubotu with /* join code */01:45
fmasivengeful hihi ok then01:45
naliothtuxedo_kamen: when ubotu comes back, i'll fix you up01:45
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tuxedo_kamenhum, oik, thanks01:45
daxxarjsubl2, that gives me an unresolved dependency in synaptic. I'll try in "add applications".01:45
fmasiSome one know whoh to make the clock whork right mine is too fast01:45
daxxarSee if it suggests me installing something else. :)01:45
naliothubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about w32codecs01:46
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pussfellernalioth: so what do i do, im in this apt-get -f install stage and it keeps burping on that01:46
tuxedo_kamenthanks01:46
fmasivengeful you can make jockes i dont car i like jokes01:46
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naliothpussfeller: what are you trying to install?01:47
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zkmasteranyone know what should the default PKG_CONFIG path be for an ubuntu install?01:47
zkmasterim trying to install gtk+ 2.801:47
cevizogluvengeful, no, leave the jock-making to the fashion industry01:47
jsubl2daxxar, you need to add multiverse and universe in your sources.list01:47
daxxarjsubl2, oh, my bad. Needed to do multiverse and universe manually.01:47
jsubl2!sources01:47
ubotuI heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)01:47
pussfellernalioth: xkeyboard-config01:48
daxxarEven though "add applications" asked me if I wanted it to do it, and I said yes. Thanks! :)01:48
jsubl2daxxar, those links from ubotu01:48
pussfellerwell, everything, im tryi9ng to upgrade01:48
daxxarPEBKAC, as always. ;)01:48
daxxarjsubl2, nah, I've already done it. (=01:48
vengefulfmasi, are you on a laptop by any chance01:48
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fmasivengeful yes01:48
RockyBurtwow, gnome-terminal is consistently crashing01:49
fmasivengeful why this makes enny difrence ?01:49
sentra99nalioth i got it thank you so much01:49
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StylusEaterhow do I not have an /etc/modules.conf file?01:50
naliothpussfeller: is it in the ubuntu repos?01:50
[N] ameStylusEater, its just modules01:50
bimberiStylusEater: /etc/modules01:50
[N] ameStylusEater, no .conf01:51
StylusEaterhrrm01:51
[N] amesudo gedit /etc/modules01:51
StylusEaterI can't seem to get my system to find wlan001:51
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tuxedo_kamennalioth, ok, I downloaded the w32 package, now how can I install it? (I have no idea on how to install *.deb files)01:52
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Rockett18sudo dpkg -i pakagename.deb01:52
repis it safe to disable initrd from the kernel config?01:52
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StylusEaterso no wireless stuff is working...the prism_usb2 driver is loaded (ala lsmod) and my system detects it (ala dmesg)01:52
pussfellernalioth: i think so, it is holding a bunch of other stuff back i think01:52
StylusEaterany ideas???01:52
Nardis there a way to just change the admin password01:52
tuxedo_kamenRockett18, does that already fully install it ?01:52
naliothtuxedo_kamen: sudo dpkg -i file.deb01:52
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TiMiDohey nalioth wuz up01:52
naliothpussfeller: apt-get -f install xkey-bleh01:53
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speelon hoary is ssh enabled by default?01:53
twystedspeel no01:53
naliothspeel: there is a ssh client01:53
bimberiNard: admin password? if you mean the one you type when you run synaptic the no, it's your user password (and not stored separately)01:53
speelah ok thanks01:53
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Nardok01:54
rob_pfmasi:  If you synchronize your clock to a time source (use, "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org"), does it keep time ok?  Or does it drift noticeably over a short period of time?01:54
naliothTiMiDo: dont you sleep?01:54
tuxedo_kamenhum... I still can't play WMV movies with it... should I use something else than Totem?01:54
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fmasirob_p after 5 minuts you see the difrence01:54
bimberinalioth: the irony of that question from you! :)01:54
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fmasirob_p its realy fast01:54
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windexbimberi, nalioth is actually a group role played by over 30 diffrent people01:55
jsubl2tuxedo_kamen, i use mplayer apt-get install mozilla-mplayer01:55
naliothyes, yes, nalioth's innards in #ubuntu-offtopic please01:55
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steigweisdo you have an idea, why my browser doesnt render courier fonts? i have mstcorefonts an everything is working, but courier...01:56
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fmasirob_p so enny idea how to fix that i have a AMD64 leptop01:57
rob_pfmasi:  You might try disabling apic in the bios and at boot time.  I've heard of issues with APIC and the system clock sharing the same interrupt and causing huge clock drift problems.  I'm not saying that is the problem but it's worth a shot.01:57
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Paradoxxhmm01:57
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Paradoxxwhat program you all use to open .rars?01:57
SyrraHello01:57
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Seveasunrar (package unrar-nonfree)01:58
fmasirob_p ok i will take note of that01:58
SyrraI'd say WinRar but that's probably the wrong OS. :P01:58
BoinkTY @ll , cya01:58
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ParadoxxSeveas: huh?01:58
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Syrraanyway, anyone in here know anything about papaya mud client?01:58
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tristanmikeParadoxx, I suspect that's why you use to open .rars01:58
tristanmike*what01:59
StylusEateralright...I'm about to go postal on my laptop...how the frig can I keep getting wlanctl-ng: no such device after I think I've tried everything in the book!!!01:59
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rob_pfmasi:  Actually, I'd be interested to know if that solves it for you.  Do post back here if you find anything.  Boa sorte cara!01:59
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SyrraWas that a no?02:00
HobbseeSyrra: got no idea, but your question is rather broad, so no one can give you the info you want yet anyway02:00
fmasirob_p ok i Will02:00
fmasirob_p You speak portugese or just copy it ?02:01
Syrrawell, I was looking for a logging plugin for it, because it doesn't seem to have one in synaptic02:01
steigweishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7099&highlight=courier  this is a font problem, that is still unsolved. please help me...02:01
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zkmasterquestion - how do i search for a file in nautilis?02:02
tuxedo_kamenjsubl2, ok, I just installed it. Now, how can I set all possible files types to mozilla-player?02:02
zkmasteri need to find `gtk+-2.0.pc'02:02
rob_pfmasi:  Yes.  I speak Portuguese.02:02
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fmasirob_p where you from?02:03
naliothzkmaster: open a terminal and type "locate bleh"02:03
starscallinghttp://www.i-rox.com/quote/854  omfg02:04
starscallinghttp://www.i-rox.com/quote/85402:04
zkmasternalioth: thank you02:04
fmasirob_p one more thing in the boot (grub i supose) how do i take it out ?02:04
StylusEaternalioth: not "slocate bleh"?02:04
Syrraor just a decent client for Ubuntu would work too, but it doesn't seem to .. *cough* have one.. hmm02:04
rob_pfmasi:  US, but I lived in Brasil for a few years.02:04
starscalling!_!02:04
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, starscalling02:04
starscallingignore that02:04
starscallingyeah02:04
ParadoxxSeveas: unrar isn't a command...02:04
rob_pfmasi:  Not sure with grub.  I use lilo.02:04
fmasirob_p ok02:05
zkmasternalioth: it just comes back to the prompt, nothing happens02:05
naliothidk slocate from locate (think one is a symlink for the other)02:05
SeveasParadoxx, apt-get install unrar-nonfree02:05
naliothzkmaster: then you dont have it02:05
StylusEaterbck to slack it is...02:05
tuxedo_kamen>_<02:05
fmasienny one know how to take out APIC from grub boot ?02:05
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Paradoxxwas just about to do a cache serach for that :002:05
tuxedo_kamenI just installed mozilla-player, does anyone know how to set all possible file types to it?02:06
zkmasterhmmm i see  a gtk 2.4 folder in /usr/lib, its still not installed?02:06
Syrrais there an ubuntu gaming channel?02:06
naliothzkmaster: you need libgtk-bleh-dev02:06
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bimberituxedo_kamen: i don't, but there's this...02:07
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zkmastercan i get libgtk-bleh-dev using apt-get?02:07
bimberi!defaultapp02:07
ubotuTo change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting02:07
rob_pfmasi:  For lilo, the boot parameters for disabling APIC are, noapic nolapic.  Not sure of the syntax for the grub bootloader.02:07
axeusHmm, does Ubuntu have support for the IPW 2200 b/G wireless adapter?02:07
Seveaszkmaster, of course02:07
axeusFound in Dell laptops.02:07
zkmasterthanks!02:07
fmasirob_p i supose it wil be the same02:07
cafuego_axeus: yes-ish02:07
tuxedo_kamenbimberi, yeah, but I don't know where to find mozilla-player on my system!02:07
axeuscafuego_: ish? :)02:08
naliothzkmaster: make sure -bleh- is a version number02:08
zkmasterah ok02:08
zkmasterthanks02:08
zkmasterwhat's the exact command to get it?02:08
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bimberituxedo_kamen: do you mean mozilla-mplayer (note the "m")?02:08
zkmasterapt-get libgtk-2.4-dev did not work02:09
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tuxedo_kamenyeah, exactly, bimberi02:09
crimsunzkmaster: err, what? libgtk2.0-dev?02:09
cafuego_axeus: I've heard rports that it works and report that it doesn't,.02:09
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zkmasterwhat's the version number for libgtk-???-dev?02:10
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rob_pfmasi:  Yes, those will be the same but not sure about what you put before or after it such as the keyword "append" in lilo.  My lilo entry has this line to disable it:  append="noapic nolapic"02:10
zkmastermy end goal is to compile airsnort 0.2.7e02:10
crimsunzkmaster: there're no such packages.02:10
dougskoParadoxx: Ark can work with .rar files02:11
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crimsunzkmaster: if you want to compile GTK+-2 apps, you want libgtk2.0-dev02:11
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tristanmiketuxedo_kamen, you can usually find the excuteables in either the /bin or /usr directories02:11
fmasiif nobody know it i will try and see02:11
zkmasterok thanks!02:11
zkmasteri will try it now02:11
keffyndis rythm box having issues?02:11
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keffyndnone of my streaming audio will work, I cant find any other way to test the sound on this thing02:12
crimsunfmasi: add it to the kopt= line in /boot/grub/menu.lst if you're using grub, then sudo update-grub02:12
rob_pfmasi:  You could also try this suggestion:  http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/05/msg00585.html02:12
zkmastercrimsun how do i download that? i tried sudo apt-get libgtk2.0-dev but it did not work02:12
crimsunzkmaster: you need the main repository enabled.02:13
fmasiok thx02:13
tuxedo_kamenhum, ok02:13
tuxedo_kamenbrb02:13
Hobbseezkmaster: stick install between apt-get adn libgkt...02:13
axeus Hmm. It seems to have detected my IPW 2200. I'm using the live-cd though. Just previewing what will/will not work before I install it.02:13
crimsunaxeus: the ipw2200 driver works fine in Breezy.02:13
zkmasterthanks hobbsee!02:13
crimsun(I'm using it right now.)02:13
axeusEverything but wireless and native res is working fine. I'll just need the 1280x800 X patch and figure out the ipw2200 and I'll be good to go. :)02:13
nturnerI poked around ubuntu.com, but couldn't find anything --- are there any documented best practices for converting a live Debian system to Ubuntu?02:13
Hobbseezkmaster: no problems, always helps to be using the right commands :P02:13
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centrebulletCan someone tell me how to set eth0 to ipv4 instead of inet6?02:14
crimsunnturner: not a recommended path, but amend your sources.list and dist-upgrade02:14
axeuscrimsun: I'm sorry... Breezy? You mean 5 .10 ?02:14
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crimsun(or cross-upgrade)02:14
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indigirl1what version ubuntu do i have?02:15
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crimsunaxeus: Breezy's a code for 5.1002:15
crimsunindigirl1: lsb_release -a02:15
arcanistheroguehey, I have a question about running Unreal Tournament native in linux02:15
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arcanistheroguewhen I run it, it goes way too fast and freezes02:15
fmasii go try the APIC thing and come back in a fey minuts to tell02:15
arcanistheroguehow do i slow it down?02:15
indigirl1crimsun: cool. how do i get breezy?02:15
centrebulletCan someone tell me how to set eth0 to ipv4 instead of inet6?02:15
sexcopter8000mwhere do the "names" warty, hoary, breezy etc come from?02:15
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dougskou guys think the official release in 3 days is gonna be worth installing, compared to today's preview?02:15
vengefulsorry bout that02:15
naliothsexcopter8000m: mr shuttlesworth02:15
crimsunsexcopter8000m: see Mark Shuttleworth's wiki page.02:15
thebluesexcopter8000m: Shuttleworth.02:15
naliothdougsko: they are virtually the same02:16
axeusWhat is the root password on the Live CD? :S 5.1002:16
crimsunaxeus: there is none02:16
arcanistherogueaxeus you are root02:16
NoUsedougsk with synaptic you'll get upgraded to the official release02:16
centrebulletAnyone?02:16
kelsey23the official release is coming on October 15th02:16
dougskocool, thats kinda what i thoughti figured as much02:16
axeusAh.02:16
Madpilotkelsey23: 13th, actually02:16
crimsun15th?02:16
crimsunwhere do people get these dates? ;)02:16
theblueUbuntu 5.10: The badger is almost here.... <fade to black>02:16
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kelsey23oh. Last time I thought it was the i5th, but I guess they moved it up :-)02:17
Cody`could anyone help me get esound working?02:17
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theblueAre we gonna have a release party in here when Breezy's released?02:17
Cody`after a chown -R root /etc and a chmod -R 755 /etc it didn't seem to work..02:17
Cody`did that by accident02:17
centrebulletCan someone tell me how to set eth0 to ipv4 instead of inet6?02:17
HedgeMagewhy do people ask a question, then leave before there's time to answer it?02:18
nturnercrimsun: well, I understand that; I figure there will be some gotchas though, and wondered if anyone had documented them.  anyway, thanks; that is probably what i'll end up doing (either that or using deboostrap in a chroot...)02:18
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HobbseeHedgeMage: who knows...seems rather silly though02:18
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da_bon_bonhi all02:18
nturnerer, s/deboo/deboot/02:18
tgahowdy.. any idea how I can get my Alps touchpad to tap-to-drag in Breezy?02:18
da_bon_bonwhy doesnt ubuntu allow me to use suns java ? it uses its own stupid gij02:18
da_bon_boni want suns java02:19
HedgeMageWhat is the slowest/oldest computer you folks think a default install of ubuntu would run comfortably on?02:19
crimsunda_bon_bon: then install sun's silly java and edit your $PATH02:19
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tgaHedgeMage, if you use the 'server' install you can run it on a pentium 13302:19
indigirl1do i just s/hoary/breezy/ in /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:19
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tgaHedgeMage, no Gnome or anything tough02:19
da_bon_bonHedgeMage: piii 550mhz ?02:19
HedgeMagetga: I was thinking for a newbie's desktop02:19
Syrraahaha, hedgemage02:19
Syrranice name02:19
bimberi!sunjava02:19
ubotuhmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java02:19
crimsunindigirl1: sure. Make sure you read the upgrade notes first on the wiki.02:19
da_bon_bonok, crimsun :)02:19
HedgeMagetga: it's gnome that worries me a bit, I'm used to super-light wm's like fvwm or occassionally flux02:20
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HedgeMageSyrra: thanks02:20
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abbot45can someone please tell me how to add a file to my crontab so it will run every night?02:20
tgaHedgeMage, right, flux will run on virtually anything.. drop gnome and you're fine02:20
indigirl1HedgeMage: or icewm02:20
tritiumnalioth, latest X updates fixed it02:20
indigirl1abbot45: ??02:20
mcquaidI was going to do a dist upgrade to breezy but it's flagging a lot of stuff for removal (kdelibs, xlibmesa ...)02:21
tgaHedgeMage, a Linux newbie should learn how to do stuff with the command line anyway.. Gnome is more of a Windows replacement02:21
dougskoda_bon_bon: take a look here, (quick google search) http://www.livejournal.com/community/ubuntulinux/7679.html02:21
keffyndwhat is the sound dev in Unbuntu? /dev/???02:21
WinZ,     02:21
WinZoh, sorry.. wrong keymap02:21
tgakeffynd, /dev/dsp should work02:21
mcquaidi think i read aptitude can result in a smoother dist upgrade02:21
tgakeffynd, although that's the ALSA OSS emulation02:21
HedgeMagetga: I don't think I'm going to sell that idea to my technophobic little-old-schoolteacher mom02:21
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bytefooi need some gnome speed tips :/02:21
Cody`Can anybody help me get esound back? after a chown -R root /etc and a chmod -R 755 /etc it didn't seem to work.. did that by accident02:21
Riddellmcquaid: that's fine02:22
keffyndok02:22
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keffyndhow can I tell waht snd server I am using?02:22
tgaHedgeMage, if she's technofobic then all she cares about is the button to start the browser.. I imagine a nice clean interface like openbox would actually help02:22
crimsunkeffynd: pgrep esd02:22
abbot45indigirl1, im setting up the client for Odeo and it has a .shell file that inniates the mp3 downloads.  it says to use crontab -e to make the .shell file run every night, but i can't get it to work.02:22
tuxedo_kamenhum... I installed mplayer (mozilla player) and I still can't see *.avi and *.wmv movies, that application freezes and everything... did I do anything wrong or something?02:22
PanteroJust go with blackbox. That's about as minimal as you'll get.02:22
HedgeMagetga: the thing is, I will be talking her through installing it herself... I'm hoping for as few steps as humanly possible.02:22
SyrraPanther!02:22
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PanteroSup, Syrra02:23
dougskotuxedo_kamen: go with vlc, it plays everything02:23
tgaHedgeMage, what machine does she have?02:23
tuxedo_kamen>_>02:23
tgaHedgeMage, also, does she have broadband?02:23
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keffyndcrimsun that gave me 709302:23
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mcquaidRiddell, what do you mean thats fine? it's flagging 106 pkgs for removal02:23
naliothtritium: cool02:23
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HedgeMagetga: she will have broadband by the time she gets her CD (theoretically)02:23
HedgeMagetga: she has an old 400mhz something with an unknown amount of RAM02:24
crimsunkeffynd: esd is running. If you haven't changed the default audio settings, then gnome apps use esound.02:24
PanteroShoot for it, jim.02:24
tgaHedgeMage, you can tell her to do the 'server' install, which should only prompt for a few things, then you ssh in and configure the thing02:24
indigirl1tuxedo_kamen: you need codecs02:24
tgaHedgeMage, for the install the trickiest part is the drive partitioning02:24
rob_pabbot45:  Try, "crontab -u your_username -e" and it will open up in a text editor for you to edit.02:24
keffyndcrimsun thx02:25
HedgeMagetga: that sounds good.  I wish I were there to do it for her in person, but that's 2000 miles!02:25
twystedtga>  she will have to install ssh as well :) since its not in there by defaults02:25
HedgeMagehmmm...02:25
twystedbut that is on the cd :)02:25
mcquaidhow does one upgrade relatively smoothly to breezy?02:25
mcquaidsuprised there isn't a thread on upgrading/issues02:25
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crimsunyou didn't read the topic.02:25
tgaHedgeMage, my suggestion -- get her to use something simple like openbox or xfwm4 tops.. she'll have less trouble using it02:25
crimsunoh woops, there's a topic?!02:26
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tgamy upgrade was kinda bumpy.. I alternated between dist-upgrade and dpkg --configure -f quite a few times02:26
abbot45rob_p, i tried that.  i added the file and hit save, but then when i do crontab -u adam -l it says "user adam has no crontab" or something like that.02:26
Denskiis the desktop of breezy the same as hedgehog? where can i see the screen shot of breezy02:27
Denskithanks02:27
rob_pabbot45:  One sec...02:27
crimsunDenski: the artwork has been adjusted slightly02:27
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tuxedo_kamengreat, now I have no sound! >_>02:27
PanteroIt's about the same.02:27
tganice.. upgrading firefox seems to have created some problems with it02:27
mustard5it's essentially the same desktop with a few different menu options02:27
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remyforbes777 ..02:28
mcquaidhey sorry didn't check the topic, maybe should be stickied at the forums02:28
Hobbseetga: what problems?02:28
mcquaidhmm ok that link doesn't have much02:28
tgaHobbsee, clicking a downloadable link gets me an 'invalid xml' window02:28
Hobbseemcquaid: if you didnt see the topic, then you're unlikely to see a sticky at the forums...02:28
hablandocontigohi, I just installed base-system and firefox on 233mhz/128mb ram, how can I start firefox in X server with no DE/WM?02:29
Hobbseetga: file a bug for it?02:29
naliothhablandocontigo: find a terminal02:29
tgaHobbsee, will sure do, as soon as I play with it some more02:29
PanteroOpen a terminal and find it in /usr/bin.02:29
naliothhablandocontigo: type "firefox"02:29
NoUseabbot45 just use podnova.com and ipodder.sf.net02:29
NoUseabbot45 odeo's linux client sucks02:29
tuxedo_kamenhum...02:29
tuxedo_kamen>_>02:29
abbot45ipodder sucks too.02:30
axeusDo I want to install "5.10 preview install", or do I want a latter version?02:30
NoUseabbot45 I have no problem with it02:30
tuxedo_kamenI installed vlc, and I have no image on WMV files... what should I do?02:30
abbot45there really aren't any good podcatchers for linux.02:30
axeusformer*02:30
PanteroWhat later version?02:30
axeus:S02:30
PanteroAh02:30
axeus4.0 whatever..02:30
Pantero5.0402:30
axeusSo no 5.10?02:30
kevogodaxeus, Three days is 5.10 release02:30
NoUseabbot45 what problems are you having with ipodder?02:30
Pantero5.1 stable's about to be out anyway, you might as well do the preview.02:30
kevogodYou might as well wait for 3 days.02:31
axeusI'd imagine they left out alot of features in the "preview" ?02:31
PanteroOr that.02:31
kevogodaxeus, No.02:31
vengefulno02:31
kbrooksaxeus: no02:31
axeuslol :)02:31
kevogodPreview simply means "In Testing".02:31
kbrooksubuntu is open source02:31
PanteroWrong type of "preview".02:31
hablandocontigonalioth woops, installing xorg now, but how can I get it so that once I boot grub and linux starts up, I can automatically launch xserver with firefox?02:31
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tgaHobbsee, remove/install fixed it02:31
DiESELMuSAhello :)02:32
Hobbseetga: :)02:32
twystednice i get a 403 when trying to download the breezy iso from the US mirror02:32
DiESELMuSAAny way I can do install from a floppy?02:32
tgaany idea how I can get my Alps touchpad to tap-to-drag in Breezy?02:32
vengefullaunch xserver with firefox? eh?02:32
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tuxedo_kamenI installed vlc, and I have no image on WMV files... what should I do? anyone? :| (and yeah, I already installed the codecs)02:32
Hobbseetwysted: why not grab it from the daily files instead?02:32
hablandocontigovengeful yup02:32
PanteroDiesel, you can boot to cd with a smartboot manager floppy02:32
hablandocontigovengeful nah02:32
vengefulhehe02:32
DiESELMuSAPantero: don't have a cdrom :(02:32
rob_pabbot45:  Ok, sorry about that.  I had a phone call.  Anyway, you need to make sure you follow the correct syntax for your cron entry.02:32
hablandocontigovengeful I got that.02:32
twystedHobbsee i was just clicking the link on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/02:33
PanteroDiesel, it'll take you a while and a lot of floppies.02:33
kevogodAnyone use pptp-linux with pptpconfig?02:33
abbot45NoUse, it freezes when i open it.  it used to work ok.  also, i installed it from synaptic yet it doesnt have an icon in the Applications menu.02:33
DiESELMuSAbut are it a way to do a netinstall?02:33
karmatoburnany help with my 1st cdrom device not mounting media02:33
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kbrooksI have a windows license. Can I use w32codecs?02:33
hablandocontigohow can I automatically startx and then start mozilla in the xserver?02:33
karmatoburnsome secert handshake02:33
NoUseabbot45 another group has taken over linux development for ipodder, they're calling it castpodder now, you might want to check it out02:33
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PanteroI don't have much experience with remote installations, but it should be possible.02:34
Hobbseetwysted: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/02:34
Hobbseetwysted: is the absolute latest daily cds of it02:34
DiESELMuSAok, I just need a way to do it :P02:34
lunyhow do I add Spanish to the list of Languages avail on login?02:34
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twystedhobbsee thanks :)02:34
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Hobbseetwysted: no problems02:34
karmatoburnis there a help bot?02:34
NoUsekarmatoburn ubotu02:34
kevogodkarmatoburn, Yes02:34
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kbrookskarmatoburn: yes02:34
kevogod!tell karmatoburn about ubotu02:35
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abbot45rob_p, i am using the one in the install file.  00 [tab]  00 [tab]  * [tab]  * [tab]  * [tab]  /path/to/shell/file.shell02:35
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karmatoburn! tell karmatoburn about cdroms02:35
ubotuNo idea, karmatoburn02:35
PanteroThe Desktop's what it's designed for, after all.02:35
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elad`"There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this type."02:36
karmatoburn! tell karmatoburn about mounting cdrom drive02:36
ubotukarmatoburn: I don't know, could you explain it?02:36
kbrookskarmatoburn: stop it...02:36
kevogod!tell karmatoburn about mounting02:36
kbrookskarmatoburn--02:36
PanteroMod -1, redundant.02:36
kbrookskarmatoburn: now your karma is on fire :P02:36
twystedlol02:36
karmatoburnthanks02:36
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dougskokarmatoburn: sudo /dev/cd0 /mnt/cdrom  (the actual device name and mount point might be different)02:37
karmatoburnone auto mounts and one does not02:37
tritiumkarmatoburn, you can send private messages to ubotu02:37
rob_pabbot45:  For example, you want your script to be executed every night, as your user.  You'd do a, "crontab -e" to open your user crontab file in the editor.  Then you'd enter, "30 0 * * * your_username /path/to/your/script" and then save the file.  That should run at every morning at 00:30.02:37
kbrooksdougsko: look at the typo02:37
dougskowhat typo?02:38
kbrooksfirst off, you forgot mount02:38
dougskooh lol02:38
elad`How do I reset Konqueror settings?02:38
karmatoburntritium, hmm no i can not02:38
tritiumkarmatoburn, did you register with nickserv?02:38
dougskoi guess that would be kinda crucial02:38
DiESELMuSAIs there anyone that can help me? (some way to do a netinstall (floppy) of ubuntu02:38
karmatoburnumm yeah02:38
tuxedo_kamenI installed vlc, and I have no image on WMV files... what should I do? anyone? :| (and yeah, I already installed the codecs)02:39
tritium!tell DiESELMuSA about install02:39
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tritiumDiESELMuSA, see the Advanced Installation Methods on that URL ubotu sent you02:39
abbot45rob_p, so how would i do it at 03:00?02:39
DiESELMuSAok tritium :)02:40
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TylerDurdenhow come css is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow on play2play?02:40
TylerDurdenit worked fine on windows. ive installed the drivers right02:40
dougskotuxedo_kamen: try some different wmv's, i find that some work and some dont. theyre a pain in the neck02:40
rob_pabbot45:  Looks like you were pretty close with it.  You left out the user under which you want the script executed.  For 03:00, you' make it, "00 03 * * * your_username /path/to/your/script"02:40
tuxedo_kamen>_<02:40
tuxedo_kameni tried 2 of them...02:40
tuxedo_kamenshould I better use windows for that kind of file?02:41
seethruTylerDurden: using a FX5500 PCI?02:41
TylerDurdenexactly :D02:41
karmatoburnwhat are the correct permissions 660?02:41
TylerDurdenim jsut sick of waiting. i cant live without css02:41
tuxedo_kamenlol02:41
elad`My Konqueror is completely borked.02:41
seethruTylerDurden: well, I really can't think of anything else man until I get home atleast02:41
TylerDurdenyeah :( say, how does ubuntu work compared to windows for u? i mean smooth-wise02:42
rob_pabbot45:  If that doesn't work, check for the existance of /etc/cron.allow and/or /etc/cron.deny.  If either of those files exist, they will have bearing on whether or not you are allowed to make user crontabs.02:42
abbot45rob_p, thanks man, that worked.02:42
rob_pabbot45:  Cool!02:42
twystedtuxedo_kamen> some wmv use other codecs as well for some reason that would be why your not getting video02:42
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hablandocontigohow do I start xserver without startx?02:43
seethruTylerDurden: well, I don't really notice a difference, but as I said on the forums, I've got a 6800GT so even if there is one, it's probably very small02:43
hablandocontigoI don't have the startx command02:43
Panteroxdm02:43
steigweiscan anybody send me the courier font and tell me where to put it, that it works? my ubuntu doesnt render courier :/02:43
tritiumhablandocontigo, normally, a display manager is run02:43
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karmatoburni have to belive it is a hardware problem02:43
TylerDurdenwell i dont think its really my card, i know its bad but it might also be my ram, it feels as if its operating at 128 mb02:43
TylerDurdeneverything takes long to open and icons and other things refresh slowly02:43
Panterohabla, try xdm02:43
abbot45btw, NoUse, there isn't really a linux client for Odeo because its all web based.  the only thing you have to do is set the crontab to run the file for the downloads so it will grab everything for you while you're sleeping.02:44
seethruTylerDurden: IDE HDD?02:44
tritiumhablandocontigo, gdm should have been installed by default02:44
abbot45NoUse, it runs in the background.02:44
karmatoburncreat a .fonts folder and drop it in there02:44
TylerDurdenuhhh im not sure02:44
karmatoburnwhat font do you need ?02:44
TylerDurdenhow cna i find out?02:44
karmatoburnput the folder in your /home02:44
hablandocontigoPantero I am trying xdm, gdm is not installed b/c I did base-system install for this 233mhz/128mb machince02:44
seethruTylerDurden: it's quite likely IDE, read up on DMA and see if you can enable it on your hdd02:45
steigweiskarmatoburn: i need the courier font02:45
PanteroOnly base? You did install the x packages, right?02:45
TylerDurdeni already enabled dma02:45
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tgainteresting.. the google result page for "subway" somehow sets a cookie for www.subway.com02:46
dougskolol02:46
dougskoi used to work for scrubway02:46
tgacan anyone verify that?02:46
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karmatoburnman outta 2000 + fonst i do not see it02:46
karmatoburnfonts02:46
twystedi want 2000+ fonts02:46
twysted:D02:46
karmatoburnpardon my poor spelling02:46
tgadougsk, nice place to work, eh?02:47
hablandocontigoPantero I installed firefox and xorg02:47
seethruTylerDurden: not sure what else to suggest then man, I mean if the system itself seems sluggish you may be SOL. How much RAM total do you have?02:47
PanteroOkay, just making sure.02:47
PanteroHow did xdm turn out?02:47
TylerDurdenwhats SOL? i have 768 ram02:47
steigweisis there anybody, who can dcc me the courierfonts?02:47
hablandocontigoblinked bogus colors 3 times on VESA driver02:47
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PanteroTylerDurden: S*t outta luck.02:47
steigweisi am not sure about the filename02:47
karmatoburntwysted, we use them for laying out lettering for tattoos02:48
karmatoburnso we need that many02:48
hablandocontigoPantero should VESA work for nearly all monitors?02:48
dougskotga: oh yeah, it was a blast. and yeah it set a cookie for me too, lol, however that happens02:48
Panterohablando, if the x-server is failing, you might need to run xorgconfig02:48
karmatoburntry that one02:48
bimberitga: yep - cookie set here too, hm02:49
hablandocontigoPantero okay, I'll try that. I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg last time02:49
karmatoburnthe fonts deal is funny if you are used to the old way/it is just /home/.fonts/02:49
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karmatoburnshould work for every app in that account02:49
tgabimberi, nice stuff, eh?02:50
steigweiskarmatoburn: i have only two fonts in /home/.fonts02:50
steigweiseverything seems to be in the /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/02:50
steigweisso, should i put your file in the homefolder?02:50
karmatoburnyeah02:50
karmatoburn.fonts02:50
naliothsteigweis: no. you system will see all the fonts02:50
dougskotga: i wonder if doing it through a proxy scanner like whisker or paros would tell how it's doing that02:51
karmatoburnit is hidden by default02:51
steigweisok, i will try02:51
tgadougsko, bimberi: <link rel="prefetch" href="http://www.subway.com/">02:51
karmatoburnfor that account it will02:51
bimberitga: no good imo02:51
karmatoburnor username if you prefer02:51
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duncanmhmm... 3 days02:52
karmatoburnif a system has only one user what woudl it matter?02:52
tgakarmatoburn, that's the Unix Way02:52
Hobbseeduncanm: you're thinking of installing breezy early?02:52
karmatoburni know this02:52
dougskotga: a little money goes a long way i guess...02:52
hablandocontigoPantero there is no xorgconfig command found for root or user02:52
karmatoburnhad to unlearn it also02:52
Pantero...Odd.02:53
karmatoburnfor this distro02:53
tritiumhablandocontigo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:53
PanteroIt might be xorgcfg for you02:53
gnomefreakive had breezy since the day or day after it found its self on a few downloads site02:53
tritiumno, please don't run xorgcfg02:53
duncanmHobbsee: maybe, yeah02:53
duncanmis it a good idea?02:53
karmatoburnand that nfo came from the ubuntu faq.02:53
PanteroCheck the X11R6/bin directory02:53
lsuactiafneris there a way to install ubuntu without a monitor/screen attached to the PC?02:53
Hobbseeduncanm: seems stable enough, plenty of people are using it02:53
tgalsuactiafner, only if you can talk to that machine through a serial console02:54
steigweiskarmatoburn: it doesnt work. do i have to restart x in order to get courier working?02:54
duncanmHobbsee: the upgrade path is smooth?02:54
gnomefreaklsuactiafner,  im thinking no02:54
hablandocontigotritium I ran sudo dpkg...etc but I couldn't config it to boot on VESA driver into X02:54
karmatoburnwe tattoo a fair number of names here so it is a must open office and our fonts work02:54
tgalsuactiafner, you can configure it and all through ssh but you need to at least install the base system somehow02:54
karmatoburnno02:54
tritiumhablandocontigo, why not?02:54
lsuactiafneram too lazy to unplug my screen to install.. heh02:54
karmatoburnmaybe the wrong font02:54
Hobbseeduncanm: can be, sometimes it isnt.  it's safer to install from a daily cd, just make sure you have a backup02:54
lsuactiafnerah well, suppose i should02:54
remyforbes777hablandocontigo im having the same issue02:54
duncanmHobbsee: i figured, not much is gonna change between today and 3 days from now02:54
karmatoburnit is a .fonts file riight?02:54
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remyforbes777trying to get x to work on my laptop02:55
karmatoburnnote to the .02:55
lsuactiafnercan i get an xorg system installed for media in under 1G?02:55
lsuactiafnermedia entertainment..02:55
twystedlsuactiafner> prolly not :)02:55
remyforbes777knoppix uses xfree86 with the vesa driver and it works fine but Ubuntu doesnt with xorg02:55
PanteroYou won't have any room left for the media if you do.02:55
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hablandocontigotritium I typed xdm and X blinks garbage on all three resulution selected 1024->64002:55
lsuactiafnermedia is remote02:55
Hobbseeduncanm: seems like still a bit, but it shouldnt make much difference unless you are on dialup02:55
lsuactiafnerhmmm.. suppose i can run mplayer in vesa.. tho xv wouldve been nice02:56
steigweiskarmatoburn: yes its /home/wol/.fonts02:56
duncanmHobbsee: yeah, and that way i get a headstart02:56
Hobbseeduncanm: that you do02:56
lsuactiafnerk thanks bye02:56
Panterolsu, I doubt it. The higher-end desktops probably won't fit in that small a space unless you use an old version...02:57
duncanmHobbsee: are you running it already?02:57
axeusHm.02:57
duncanmi just follow the BreezyUpgradeNotes, right?02:57
Hobbseeduncanm: yeah, kubuntu though, plety of people are running both kubuntu or ubuntu02:57
Hobbseeyeah02:57
karmatoburnnan it should be /home/.fonts02:57
naliothkarmatoburn: /home/username/.fonts02:57
lsuactiafnerPantero : will try another distro first, since i know how to config things to be around 500mb only..02:57
lsuactiafneram too lazy to figure ubuntu out, too many dependancies will be enforced.02:58
karmatoburnok mine is not that way02:58
tritiumhablandocontigo, what happended to your gdm?02:58
PanteroGo for it. Generally when I'm having to fit an install into less than 2 Gigs, I go with Slack.02:58
lsuactiafnerPantero : thinking same thing02:58
karmatoburnmy path is /home/.fonts/02:58
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PanteroUbuntu's my "luxurious desktop OS".02:58
twystedcan always do a server install and try to install everything from there, but good luck02:58
hablandocontigotritium installed base-system02:58
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tritiumhablandocontigo, you did a server install?02:59
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lsuactiafnertho i could make a 32bit install on a subdirectory on this 64bit machine, and then make most of the remote system use my disk space02:59
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lsuactiafnernetowrk system..02:59
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hablandocontigotritium yup, that's what they call it these days03:00
lsuactiafnerthanks for advice03:00
lsuactiafnernight03:00
PanteroG'night.03:00
psusiI'm trying to compile the intel asl compiler to fix my dsdt and it errors... I think it is because flex isn't configured right to support unput()... what did you have to do to get flex to build code that can use unput()?03:00
tritiumhablandocontigo, have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?03:00
psusispecifically the error is: aslcompiler.l:847: error: 'yytext_ptr' undeclared (first use in this function)03:01
twystedbbl03:01
hablandocontigotritium will do that, last time it was No Output device, will check now03:01
psusiand on line 846 is a call to unput()03:01
crimsunpsusi: are you using flex or flex-old?03:01
psusiflex03:01
Seveaspsusi, are you sure flex is installed?03:01
psusiyea, just installed it03:01
psusiI seem to remmber flex had an option that had something to do with allowing unput() to work or not... but I forget the details03:02
dougskohablandocontigo: check out this page, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes03:02
hablandocontigodougsko thanks03:02
dougskoit might not be exactly what yr looking for, but it could be cclose03:03
Seveastry flex -l03:03
XorlevWhich command is it that you execute after compiling a program to register it with dpkg?03:03
Seveascheckinstall03:04
tritiumXorlev, you want to use checkinstall03:04
naliothXorlev: what did you use to compile?03:04
steigweiskarmatoburn: can you resend the file please, i have missed it:)  btw. this guy had the same courier font problem, but still unsolved03:04
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steigweishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709903:04
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Xorlevtritium: Thanks =)03:04
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tritium:)03:05
Xorlevnalioth: Do I have to use a special type of make? Or dpkg or something?03:05
psusihrm... with the -l now I get: aslglobal.h:146: error: conflicting types for 'AslCompilertext'03:05
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tgaI added the Xorg options from the README but the touchpad still ignores me03:05
karmatoburnhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60504&highlight=fonts03:05
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naliothubotu: tell Xorlev about checkinstall03:05
karmatoburnthat should help with the font questions03:05
duncanmHobbsee: it says i could 'lost data', i don't see why that would happen...03:06
naliothXorlev: just read that page, checkinstall is pretty easy03:06
karmatoburng'nite all03:06
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duncanmHobbsee: i just have one big partition, and i don't have space for backup03:06
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tritiumduncanm, you might consider backups on a physically separate drive anyway03:06
steigweiskarmatoburn: thanks for your help!03:07
psusidamn intel, you can at least ship valid code...03:07
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psusidorks declare it as a char * in one place and a char []  in another03:07
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primoturboCan someone pls point me to a guide on installing ATI drivers on Breezy?03:07
tritium!tell primoturbo about ati03:08
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tga!alps03:08
ubotutga: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!03:08
tga!synaptics03:08
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tga03:08
tgayeah yeah03:08
Hobbseeduncanm: are you on windows now?03:09
HedgeMagelol03:09
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duncanmHobbsee: nope03:09
duncanmwell, i'm starting it03:09
duncanmi don't think i have anything that's non-standard on this box03:09
Hobbseeas in, the install?03:09
duncanmyeah03:09
duncanmthe updating now, then dist-upgrade03:09
psusistupid intel... this code is horrible03:09
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Hobbseecool :)03:10
psusiall kinds of incorrect casts that aren't 64bit compatible03:10
tgapsusi, what does Intel know about 64-bit anyway :)03:10
duncanmWax: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>03:10
duncanmhow do i add the key?03:10
psusinot much it would seem... seeing as how they had to license it from AMD :)03:11
HrdwrBoband it sucks03:11
psusibut... at least it built the binary... now to see if it can compile03:11
duncanmHobbsee: do you know?03:12
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macgeekhow long do think it will take to ship ubuntu cds to washington state?03:13
macgeeki ordered some today03:13
Seveas4 to 6 weeks03:13
tgait's faster to get it on dialup :)03:13
macgeekSeveas: oh i was expecting more like 2 months+, the way people made it sound so long03:14
Hobbseeduncanm: sudo apt-key add nameofkey.gpg03:14
Hobbseebut you have to have downloaded the key first, into your home dir03:14
macgeektga: i have tried and failed around 8 times to burn my own cds. somethings screwy so i just ordered some03:14
dougskomacgeek: yeah u might as well just download and burn 'em yrself now, youve already made yr contribution :)03:14
macgeekdougsko, contribution?03:14
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dougskomacgeek: well, by ordering the cd's03:15
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macgeekdougsko: its free03:15
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duncanmHobbsee: is there a new key?03:15
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dougskomacgeek: oh wow, thats real cool. i thought theyd be a couple bucks03:16
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Netslayeri ran the ubuntu update and it's giving: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox"  my firefox doesn't work right now as well03:16
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macgeekdougsko: nope you dont even pay shipping. completely free03:16
Netslayerany ideas?03:16
breakthestate can i use cdrecord to just add a file to a cd-rw? i've googled and googled and can't seem to come up with a good answer for a cli program to do this03:16
SeveasNetslayer, disable backports, remove all firefox/mozilla-firefox packages and retry03:16
NetslayerSeveas, how do i disable backports?03:16
Seveassame way as you enabled them...03:17
dougskomacgeek: man, you dont find that too often03:17
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NetslayerSeveas, hrm.. i just installed ubuntu03:17
Netslayeri'll google it then03:17
Hobbseeduncanm: possibly, i dont know03:17
macgeekdougsko: i love the free open source community03:17
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dougskomacgeek: tell me about it...03:18
duncanmoh, it's working now03:18
duncanmokay03:18
steigweisok, i love you too, especially if you can dcc me the courier font!03:19
kbrooksis ubuntu placed under a specific license?03:20
steigweisit is in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/03:20
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PufflekinsHey03:20
steigweisor in your homedirectory03:20
TiMiDoPufflekins hey03:20
PufflekinsI need help finding a 56k driver for my modem03:20
steigweismy courier font is fucked up03:20
macgeekdougsko: you running ubuntu?03:20
TiMiDoPufflekins www.linuxmodem.org03:20
kevogodkbrooks, GPL03:20
Seveaskbrooks, the software in Ubuntu has vatious licenses03:20
kbrookskevogod: prove it03:20
kbrooksSeveas: ubuntu itself03:21
crimsunuh, what is "Ubuntu itself"?03:21
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axeusw00t. :) ipw2200 works fine03:21
PufflekinsSorry we could not find www.linuxmodem.org.  I got a squattre03:21
PufflekinsSqautter03:21
Seveaskbrooks, what would you call 'Ubuntu itself'?03:21
kevogodUbuntu is not a single entity.03:21
kbrooksSeveas: just ubuntu03:21
kevogodBut the majority of applications are GPLed.03:21
TiMiDosorry is http://www.linmodem.com/03:21
TiMiDothere u go Pufflekins http://www.linmodem.com/03:21
PufflekinsOh, ok03:21
crimsunkbrooks: "just Ubuntu"?03:22
Seveaskbrooks, there is no such thing as 'Just Ubuntu'....03:22
kbrooksSeveas: meaning not the various applications03:22
Seveaskbrooks, if you take out all packages, nothing is left...03:22
kevogodUbuntu is nothing then.03:22
PufflekinsThanks a lot TiMiDo03:22
kbrooksSeveas: are you sure ubuntu isnt licensed?03:22
PufflekinsOh, I actually got another squatter03:22
dougskomacgeek: yeah i just installed it today. i was running kanotix for a about a year before though03:23
kevogodkbrooks, What is your concern anyway?03:23
kbrookskevogod: just wondering03:23
dougskowhich is pretty similar b/c its debian based too03:23
crimsunLinux+libc6+{many, many, many applications, libraries, artwork, documentation, ...}03:23
macgeekdougsko: oh ok cool. i've been trying to install to no avail, thus i ordered the cds03:23
macgeekdougsko: my burned cds were screwed up. md5 sums never matched03:23
PufflekinsTiMiDo: I got a sqautter on that one too03:23
kevogodkbrooks, GNU/Linux is not integrated like Windows is.03:24
kbrookskevogod: meaning?03:24
kbrooksdefine 'integration'.03:24
kevogodModularized03:24
SuperTails92Being developed by one group/person03:25
dougskomacgeek: huh...wanna nab and image from me?03:25
TiMiDoPufflekins interesting03:25
kevogodModularized is what GNU/Linux is03:25
PufflekinsSo, anyone know where I can get a driver for my 56k modem03:25
macgeekdougsko: the image was fine, md5 sum checked out so i assume it was fine.03:25
TiMiDowhat modem is it Pufflekins03:25
psusianyone know how to recompile their DSDT?03:26
PufflekinsDiamon Supramax le03:26
macgeekdougsko: i tried ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10 and kubuntu03:26
TiMiDook Pufflekins03:26
dougskomacgeek: yeah i did ubuntu 5.1003:26
auraxis ububtu 5.10 final ready for shipping ?03:26
SuperTails92Pufflekins: It may be easier to just shell out money for an external modem.03:26
tritiumnot quite, auk03:26
tritiumaurax,03:26
crimsunaurax: no, it's not even released yet.03:26
Seveasaurax, in 3 days03:26
auraxah ok03:26
aukhmm?03:26
psusiI thought I needed to disassemble the output from acpidump with iasl, fix it, then reassemble it, but I don't have something right03:26
auraxk ill wait03:26
auraxwanted to shipip03:26
aukoh03:26
auraxshipit even03:26
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tritiumauk, sorry, wrong nick03:26
PufflekinsSuperTails92: I was thinking of getting a US Robotics one03:26
SuperTails92aurax: *points to topic*03:26
TiMiDoPufflekins http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Diamond+Supramax+le+for+linux&sp=1&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&SpellState=n-433180810_q-tqAgJie3FGW1BEmLnEJP3gABAA%40%4003:27
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auktritium: np03:27
auraxoh k03:27
auraxcoo03:27
macgeekdougsko: gosh i've tried 2 different computers, 3 different burning apps, 3 cds, and 3 different distros in an attempt to get ubuntu to work03:27
macgeek3 different versions*03:27
SuperTails92macgeek: did you check the ISO's md5sum?03:27
aukit's quite difficult to make your own book test on a PHP book with guidelines for fiction...03:28
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tritiummacgeek, on what?  not a G5 iMac, I hope.03:28
dougskomacgeek: yeah thats pretty rediculous. computers r cool, but holy crap r they a headache sometimes03:28
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macgeekSuperTails92: i checked the iso's md5sum, it checked out everytime03:28
macgeektritium: ibook g4 and powerbook g403:29
keffyndif I turn up my igain I get a ticking sound, what can cause that?03:29
luckyabaanyone here when the nvidia 1.0.8xxx drivers are coming out for linux?03:29
macgeekdougsko: you said it03:29
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duckyI just resently installed ubuntu, how do you get a second monitor working?03:29
SuperTails92keffynd: um, a maxed igain? :p03:29
tritiummacgeek, oh, okay.  I get no ubuntu love on my iMac.  Hopefully in dapper...03:29
bettong_BOFHwhere is the fonts folder in ubuntu03:29
psusikeffynd: you are maxing out the volume?03:29
keffyndSuperTails92 no its set on 8003:29
psusithat doesn't mean you haven't maxed it03:30
crimsunluckyaba: when they're ready.03:30
TiMiDoluckyaba soon03:30
macgeektritium: i was burning with the macs, but i was attempting to install on a hp pavilion 663003:30
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tritiumI see03:30
macgeekyup03:30
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luckyabacrimsun: thanks for the pointless answer03:30
pragupi have a dual boot system with win xp and ubuntu and it used to work fine, but one fine day when i started my comp then what i got was this: Stage 1.5 error 17 . please help03:30
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tritiumluckyaba, please don't be rude03:30
crimsunluckyaba: dude, no one on irc will know03:30
{Mike}whats the point of the pass flags in /etc/fstab03:31
crimsunluckyaba: I could have pointed you to #nvidia, but they'll give you the same answer03:31
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luckyabacrimsun: what if my some crazy chance someone who worked for nvidia just happen to be in here and know.. or possibly a friend of someone in here03:32
crimsunluckyaba: if you idle in #nvidia long enough, you'll figure out the "drivers are going to the ftp site RSN" pattern03:32
duckyI have one nvidia 6600 GT and two monitors connected to it03:32
duckyonly one monitor is working03:32
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duckyhow do I enable the 2nd monitor?03:32
SuperTails92ducky: install nvidia drivers?03:32
tritiumducky, with TwinView03:33
{Mike}whats the point of the pass flags in /etc/fstab?03:33
PufflekinsIs anyone registered on WinDrivers?03:33
crimsunluckyaba: again, they're going to tell you "when it's ready"03:33
rob_p{Mike}:  sets automatic fdisk after n number of mounts... I believe03:33
duckySuperTails92, yes03:33
crimsunluckyaba: just ask in #nvidia if you want affirmation03:33
SuperTails92ducky: what tritium said03:33
{Mike}rob_p: will that be whats slowing my reiserfs mounting?03:33
tritiumducky, there are docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx that explain how to setup TwinView03:33
rob_p{Mike}:  How often is it happening?03:34
rob_p{Mike}:  If your volume is getting corrupt and it's happening alot, maybe your hard disk is on its way out...03:35
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PufflekinsTiMiDo, the website was linmodem.orh03:35
Pufflekinsorg*03:35
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tritiumwhich wouldn't surprise me, being reiserfs03:35
RATThello...!!!!03:35
axeusCrap, Crap, Crap!03:35
axeusI must have mistyped my password on the install.03:35
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dougskoaxeus, uh oh03:36
hablandocontigoaxeus Twice.03:36
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rubem:)03:37
axeus:S possible03:37
hablandocontigoknoppix chroot, passwd03:37
dougskoi havent checked to see if the passwords r shadowed, but if theyre not, john the ripper works pretty well :)03:37
axeusI don't have knoppix.03:37
rubemhi there!03:37
PufflekinsFuck, my modem is a winmodem03:37
crimsunyes they're shadowed.03:37
axeusuh03:38
dougskoscratch that then...03:38
hablandocontigoboot with init=/bin/bash, when you get a shell prompt, remount / rw, and run passwd, and reboot ?03:38
axeusit used my realname for my username?03:38
TimMCould you use Ubuntu live insteaed of Knoppix?03:38
TimMIf you have it?03:38
psusihablandocontigo: that should do it03:38
pragupi have a dual boot system with win xp and ubuntu and it used to work fine, but one fine day when i started my comp then what i got was this: Stage 1.5 error 17 . please help03:38
crimsunhablandocontigo: sure, and sync and remount it ro before you reboot.03:38
neighborleeis anyone else having dvd playing issues in breezy ? ;-)03:38
neighborleeyes I have libdvdcss installed awa mplayerof course03:39
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RATTanybody has tried to upgrade ubuntu into debian??03:39
rubemdo anyone know where do i put my "logon scripts"???03:40
axeuser03:40
sproingieRATT: i doubt that's supported03:40
psusithat isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade03:40
axeusWhat's the root password for the default install?03:40
axeus:S03:40
psusiaxeus: none03:40
axeuso.o03:40
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rubemin debian, I used to put in /etc/rc.local/ what about ubuntu??03:40
RATTit works...03:40
Hobbseepragup: tried googling the message?  and is that a windows message or a ubuntu message?03:40
axeusso I take it a root account is like... :S03:40
psusiaxeus: but root can't log in to xwindows by default03:40
Hobbsee!tell axeus about root03:40
axeusI remembered my password.03:40
rob_pdougsko:  ...and john will still crack weak passwords in a relatively short timeframe... shadowed or not.  If you can feed it an entry from /etc/shadow, it'll happily work on it.03:40
psusior remote connections... baiscally only usable on the text console03:41
axeusI see.03:41
RATTit works03:41
sproingieRATT: ubuntu's based on debian.  it isn't itself debian.  neither ubuntu nor debian are very good at replacing the entire root system at once03:41
axeusWell I can't type "iwconfig eth1 essid flupadupa"03:41
rubemwhere do I put the initialization scripts???03:41
dougskorob_p: they have to be unshadowed, and u need the root passwd to do that03:41
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RATTi've seen it....03:41
pragupHobbsee: its just a system message, the first message after the machine is switched on03:41
axeusI can't bring it up with ifconfig either.03:41
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psusidougsk: no, if you can read /etc/shadow, you can crack it just as easily as /etc/passwd03:42
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dougskorob_p: oh, im sorry, i misread what you typed, youre right03:42
pragupHobbsee: i googled a lot but the replies are too confusing, i am a newbie, can u plz guide me03:42
rob_pdougsk:  Why don't you just boot up in single user mode and reset your password that way?03:42
{Mike}is it just me, or does reiserfs take AGES to mount03:42
rob_pdougsko:  Why don't you just boot up in single user mode and reset your password that way?03:42
dougskorob_p: i dont have the passwd problem03:42
rubemwhere do I put my initialization scripts???03:42
psusi{Mike}: it's just you03:42
Netslayerwhen i type firefox in console it just sits there for a few seconds and doesn't launch.. i've reinstalled it with synaptic.. any ideas?03:43
rob_pdougsko:  My bad...03:43
helpimstupidcan some help me find out why my screen resolution is 640 x 480 with no options to change it03:43
Netslayeri'm in kubuntu if it makes a diff03:43
dougskolol, its all gravy03:43
kelsey23@Netslayer is it in the KDE menu?03:43
rubemhelpimstupid do tou have nvidia cards?03:43
pragupobbsee: i googled a lot but the replies are too confusing, i am a newbie, can u plz guide me03:43
helpimstupidi need it to be 1024 x 76803:43
pragupHobbsee: i googled a lot but the replies are too confusing, i am a newbie, can u plz guide me03:43
Hobbseepragup: looking03:43
helpimstupidyes i thank so03:43
pragupbatao madar03:44
pragupHobbsee: thanx03:44
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{Mike}psusi: when I say slow, I mean a couple of seconds for like a 160GB volume03:44
rubemhelpimstupid: try http://ubuntuguide.org/#hardware03:44
helpimstupidok03:44
rubemhelpimstupid: try instaling their drivers03:44
naliothrubem: please dont recommend ubuntuguide03:45
tritium!tell helpimstupid about resolution03:45
Hobbseepragup: seems like the solution is to reinstall grub03:45
rubemnalioth: why:????03:45
naliothhelpimstupid: please stay away from ubuntuguide03:45
naliothubotu: tell rubem about ubuntuguide03:45
tritium!ubuntuguide03:45
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:45
Netslayerkelsey23, no actually its not03:45
rubemnalioth: it helped me a lot???03:45
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rubemnalioth: uh... sorry. but the nvidia here just works perfectly!03:46
luckyabais there a kernel optimized for dual core processors?03:46
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pragupHobbsee: can that be done without causing a reinstall  ( i dont want to lose my data , u c)03:46
GatoMoteadodoes anyone else have the problem of the PC locking up when the screen saver kicks in for a while?03:46
RATTwhat is the name of the mp3 codec for linux??03:47
naliothrubem: users who are familiar with linux, do find it helpful. new to linux users will kill their box quickly there03:47
tritiumrubem, the guide has more than just nvidia info, and some of it is not good03:47
axeusGosh, the ACPM is shutting my hard-drive off every 1 minutes.03:47
rubemRATT I recomend xmms03:48
Hobbseepragup: yes03:48
Netslayeraxeus, on powersave mine turns off after 3 seconds03:48
rubemRATT but you'll have to make a change a it, xmms is a player03:48
axeusLOL03:48
pragupHobbsee: how do i do that?  :)03:48
rubemwell, anyone here know where to put the initialization scritpts????03:48
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TiMiDorubem on /etc/init.d/03:49
Hobbseepragup: getting that info...03:49
tritiumrubem, /etc/init.d.  Look into update-rc.d03:49
Hobbseepragup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=howto+reinstall+grub03:49
rubemTiMiDo: just put it there? thank you guys!03:49
TiMiDorubem yeah03:49
TiMiDobut man update-rc.d03:49
axeusWhere do I customize ACPM functionality?03:50
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rubemTiMiDo any extension?03:50
tritiumaxeus, ACPI?  /etc/default/acpi-support03:50
rubemTiMiDo: or no extension?03:50
TiMiDonope03:51
TiMiDojust read the man update-rc.d03:51
tritiumextensions are irrelevant03:51
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illc0mmhello all03:52
TiMiDohello illc0mm03:52
dougskohey illc0mm, welcome to the party03:52
illc0mmI have a strange problem, new Breezy Badger install on a laptop and I can't access any tools that require root?03:52
dougskosudo03:52
TiMiDoillc0mm sudo03:52
illc0mmWell, not on command line03:52
illc0mmI mean from GUI, like network config03:53
tarvidwhat is the best way to setup and maintain a mirror of breezy for i386 and amd64?03:53
psusianyone know how to use iasl to disassemble the DSDT?03:53
illc0mmit will ask for the password, but then nothing happens after I enter it03:53
TiMiDoillc0mm the root password is always ur username passwd try it03:53
illc0mmyep, that works because I can su with it03:53
dougskotarvid: what do u mean by a mirror?03:53
tritiumillc0mm, you enabled the root account?03:53
tarvidi do a lot of installs and a mirror would save bandpass03:53
dougskotarvid: do u want to serve it for other to dl from you?03:54
tarvidonly locally03:54
illc0mmI don't think so, but I did notice that it asked me for the root info, which it didn't before?03:54
tritiumtarvid, bandpass?03:54
illc0mmit asked me for a root password, but I didn't make any changes.03:54
dougskotarvid: wget can pull a mirror03:54
tarvidbytes transferred03:54
illc0mmi really didnt think anything of it03:54
axeustritium: I don't see anything pertaining to hard-disks.03:54
tritiumillc0mm, ubuntu does not enable the root account by default03:54
tritiumtarvid, you mean bandwidth03:54
tarvidanything like rsync for nightly updates?03:54
illc0mmthat's strange....03:54
tritiumaxeus, where?03:54
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axeusIn the acpi-support conf file.03:55
illc0mmI mean root works, I can't log into X with it (which is understood) but I can log in from a terminal03:55
TiMiDoillc0mm do sudo -s03:55
tritiumaxeus, it's primarily for suspend/hibernate03:55
illc0mmTiMiDo: ok, dont03:55
tritium!tell illc0mm about rootsudo03:55
illc0mmsorry, done03:55
TiMiDoare you as root?03:55
tritiumillc0mm, sudo -i03:55
RATTi need help with my sound03:56
illc0mmNo, as regular user03:56
RATTi can't control de volume03:56
illc0mmTiMiDo: okay, both return nothing ?03:56
axeusGod this is so annoying. It suspends the hard-drive alot.03:56
tarvidtritium, actually i meant traffic, i download the same hundreds of megabytes over and over03:57
illc0mmTiMiDo, if I try to run Synaptic, nothing happens at all03:57
illc0mmnot even a prompt for password03:57
TiMiDointeresting03:57
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illc0mmyeah, maybe I have a screwed up install03:57
kelsey23@Netslayer make sure your version of FireFox isn't the GNOME one03:57
Ky0tIki use to have an app that had a gui front end for streamripper, that would record audio streams that you played from the app.   does anyone know what does this? i cant remember, i know it used streamripper to rip, but the gui had the option to save the stream.. and it played it back as well..  anyone know of something similar?03:58
illc0mmTiMiDo: The CD had an error on a file, I had it recopy again could that have done it?03:58
TiMiDoKy0tIk k3b ?03:58
zenroxKy0tIk,  ya its called streamtuner03:58
illc0mmWhen it recopied it was successful03:58
illc0mmthat was when it was copying the install cache over (btw, is that required?)03:58
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dougskoKy0tIk: i think it is streamripper, it has a command line and a gui. both can do the same stuff03:59
adamb100hi03:59
dougskostreamTUNER, thats it03:59
zenroxya i have it installed03:59
kelsey23@adamb100 bonjour03:59
dougskocool program03:59
illc0mmTiMiDo: well, I think I'm just going to re-install since I have nothing on here... seems like it's just botched03:59
zenroxyes it is04:00
sector10RATT: have you tried alsamixer?04:00
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sector10or volume control in sound and video first04:01
illc0mmTiMiDo: thx for the help04:02
RATTmmmmm..........04:02
sector10RATT: my pc speaker was red x-ed on mine04:02
RATTlet me see....04:02
sector10do volume control first04:02
sector10RATT: there is mute/unmute04:02
sector10if that dont work try alsa maybe04:03
RATTim having some troubles...04:03
vengefulme too...04:03
RATTi cant open volume control04:03
RATTthats my error ...... ----->> "Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register"04:03
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kwilcoxcan someone explain the difference as to using xorg.conf or XF86Config?04:05
sector10RATT: try sudo gst-register?04:06
RATTthis is not working....04:06
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kwilcoxXinerama seems to require using XF86config, but i don't... i use xorg.conf04:06
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RATTsector10: it says command not found04:07
sector10RATT: gst-register-0.804:07
sector10no sudo04:08
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tritiumkwilcox, ubuntu doesn't use XFree86 anymore.  It uses X.org now.04:08
FarrisGCan one make an existing vncserver (running gnome, xorg, the works) grab the console keyboard and use it for input in conjunction with the remote keyboard on the vncclient?04:08
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kwilcoxIs that across the Debain board?04:08
sector10RATT: what's that do?04:08
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RATTrebuilded the globlal_registry04:09
codohmm still 3days for breezy :( ?04:09
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dougskocodo: u can get it now and update later04:09
cododougsko, I want stable one.] 04:10
sector10RATT: can you open volume?04:10
dougskocodo: its only 3 days away, and u can get the updated packeges easy with apt-get04:10
RATTyes04:10
sector10RATT: you running breezy rc?04:11
RATTbut still no control over the volume04:11
budluvacodo, if you get it now and apt-get update it will be the same as you downloading in 3 days :P04:11
RATT?????????????????????04:11
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tritiumsector10, RC is a few days old.  Most breezy users have updated since the RC04:11
sector10which ubuntu version?04:11
RATThoary04:11
dougskosector10: you dont ride a sector 9 by any chance do ya?04:12
fooFighterhey guys, is there a way to save everything that goes on in a particular irc chatroom to a text file?>04:13
RATTactivate logging on your chat program04:13
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dougskofooFighter: in xchat, its under prefs04:13
duckysomeone know where there is a good guide on using twinview?04:14
TylerDurdenhow do i enable DMA on my HD?04:14
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tritiumTylerDurden, with hdparm.  Are you sure it's not enabled?04:14
TylerDurdeni dont think it is04:14
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TylerDurdenis it enabled by default?04:14
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tritiumsometimes04:14
sector10damn wireless freezing up!04:15
axeusHmm.04:15
sector10did i miss something04:15
kwilcoxAnyone have any experience with Ximerama04:15
TylerDurdenso how do i enable it?04:16
TylerDurdeni dont see a DMA flag04:16
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tritiumTylerDurden, with -d 104:16
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TylerDurdenoh lol im blind04:16
GoClickDoes anyone know of a website that has a tutorial or faq or something on job sheduling? I'd like to run a script every Friday and every Morning at 2:00am and on the 1st of each month (3 different scripts)04:16
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sector10RATT: why dont you try latest preview04:16
TylerDurdenhow do i figure out my device?04:17
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RATTlatest preview??04:17
Ainvarevening all04:17
axeusWhere would be a good place to put the script that initializes my 855 patch? (vbios patch to 1280x800 res)04:17
axeusinit.d ?04:17
fooFighteranyone playing cs source on ubuntu breezy?04:17
tritiumTylerDurden, type "mount", and look for the /dev/hdX that's mountd on /04:17
TylerDurdenfooFighter.. im trying04:17
TylerDurdenpoint2play sucks compared to windows04:17
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Ainvarquick question is there any positive effect of using ReiserFS over Ext3 for my linux partition?04:18
sector10RATT: 5.10 Breezy badger preview, its the latest Ubuntu release04:18
RATTmmmmmmm............04:18
solidgroovewhen does 5.10 officall come out?04:18
Ainvarthis is on a laptop04:18
Ainvar3 days04:18
solidgrooveanyone use prism54?04:18
sector10Im on laptop too.04:18
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fooFighterTylerDurde, what are you using to get it to work?04:18
RATTgood idea04:18
fooFighterwine?04:18
sector10if you just update its all the same04:19
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Ainvarso no pros or cons for reiser over ext3?04:19
dougskoAinvar: it doesnt really matter, some say reiser is a little faster, i never noticed a difference04:19
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Ainvarthanks04:19
aeruderthey have some differences04:19
tritiumAinvar, they each have their advantages.  My personal experience is that reiserfs corrupts massively04:19
Ainvarwill stick with the default04:19
Ainvaryeah I had that issue here about a week ago or so04:19
aeruderreiser is supposedly much faster with lots of small files in a dir, which is beneficial on some systems04:19
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TylerDurdenfoofighter, how much fps r u getting?04:20
aeruderext3 seems to be a bit more stable04:20
fooFighterTylerDurden, i just installed breezy, im new to all this04:20
Ainvarthink I will stick with ext3 since I am reinstalling now04:20
fooFighterso getting steam to work is my next "project"04:20
TylerDurdento linux?04:20
fooFighterbut i have no idea where to start04:20
fooFighteryes04:20
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sector10reiser repairs better04:20
Ainvarreiserfs was on my last install and I had  some corruption04:20
RATTsector10 thanx for the help04:20
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TylerDurdenfoofighter u gotta get cedega or point2play (u have to pay for that)04:20
Ainvarbut was about to fix it by rebuilding the tree04:20
TylerDurdento be able to play css or any windows game04:20
TylerDurdenbut its really not worth it, i bought it yestarday and i get about 20 fps04:20
aerudercedega is worth the price04:21
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sector10RATT: have fun04:21
fooFighterpay for steam?04:21
TylerDurdenno... its not04:21
tritiumAinvar, I wouldn't use it at all04:21
aeruderi am getting god speeds on some game04:21
aeruders04:21
fooFighteri already paid for hl04:21
fooFighterthere has to be another way04:21
TylerDurdenaeruder i hate it04:21
aeruderfooFighter: cedega is 15 bucks for 3 months worth of updates04:21
aeruderbig deal04:21
TylerDurdeni get 20 fps in stress04:21
AinvarI have not used my steam account in a few months, since I got guildwars04:21
aeruderTylerDurden: i guess its just that game then04:21
TylerDurdenin windows i used to get 5004:21
httpdssthe ntp.ubuntulinux.org for my country (uruguay) is wrong... now its GMT-2 .. and not GMT-3 .. if anyone can fix it .. go ahead :P04:21
fooFighterfuck that04:21
fooFighterthere has to be a free way04:21
fooFighteris there not?04:22
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fooFighteri dont want to dual boot, but i will if i need to04:22
dougsko*cough..bittorrent...cough04:22
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TylerDurdencedega is free but u wouldnt be able to use it since ur new04:22
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tritiumfooFighter, no cursing please04:22
fooFighteryikes04:22
fooFightersorry04:22
TylerDurdenpoint2play is a gui of cedega and is much easier to use04:22
Abysmali'm having a problem with the 5.10-rc install.. its a clean install on a working machine.. and it keeps dying when it gets to the open office common files.. the md5 checked out fine .. how do i get past this?? when I hit continue it just restars to copy the files and error out at the same place...04:22
TylerDurdenbut its total waste of money04:22
Ainvarcedega is free but you cant use it if you are new? what do you mean by that?04:22
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n0odl3uhh i need help04:22
n0odl3 i just updated but for some reason it said "cannot access usr/bin/somehting terminate child 95" or something04:22
TylerDurdenainvar, hes new to linux, i dont think he'll be too great with terminal04:23
Ainvarahh04:23
sector10anybody got a notebook running 5.10?04:23
tritiumyes, sector1004:23
Ainvarthe terminal is not that bad as long as your remember RTFM04:23
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Ainvarsector10 yes04:23
AinvarI have a dell i6000d04:23
sector10cool04:23
nomasteryoda|wsector10, yes04:23
TylerDurdenwhats faster? 5.04 or 5.10?04:23
nomasteryoda|wdell d50504:23
TylerDurdeni get bad performance with 5.1004:23
duncanmah04:23
sector10i got sony vaio with nvidia04:23
Ainvarruns decent xept for the HD running hotter in linux than in windows04:23
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nomasteryoda|wsector10, good04:23
windexsector10, i have a fujitsu st5010 tablet pc running ubuntu 99%. :P04:23
duncanmHobbsee: it's gonna be done in 8 mins04:23
aerudern0odl3: wow, that was incredibly useful04:23
duncanmpretty quikc04:24
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duncanmquick04:24
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n0odl3what was useful?04:24
RATTsector10...nice notebook....04:24
xxtremesector10 sony vaio fs63004:24
sector10i have very good performance except for battery.04:24
aerudern0odl3: nothing04:24
n0odl3please help im not sure of what it means04:24
duckyAnyone know how to probe a second monitor to get the settings to use in xorg.conf?04:24
sector10also ubuntu will not reboot04:24
matthew_wHey - if I add noauto to my Fat32 mounts in my /etc/fstab, will ubuntu automatically make symbolic links under GNOME for me?04:24
TylerDurdenhow do i find my home dir?04:24
matthew_wIE: they go to the desktop automatically04:24
Hobbseeduncanm: cool :)04:24
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sector10its always rebooted before in linux04:24
aerudern0odl3: if you can't take the time to write down an error message correctly, why would we take the time to help you?04:24
windexsector10, your power management is not working right, which is common on laptops. chances are, the vaio's chipset is not supported fully.04:24
sector10it just goes black haf way. it wil shut down though04:25
xxtremesector10_ what laptop you got04:25
codoquit04:25
n0odl3ok04:25
AinvarI am waiting for suspend and hibernate to work again for my dell i6000d04:25
n0odl3then can you help me with this04:25
sector10vaio fs-660w04:25
TylerDurdenhow can i find my home dir with terminal?04:25
n0odl3mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,04:25
n0odl3       missing codepage or other error04:25
n0odl3       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try  dmesg | tail  or so04:25
n0odl3do you know what this means?04:25
sector10cpu throttling is automatic in ubuntu i heard.04:25
nomasteryoda|wTylerDurden, cd ~/04:25
AinvarTylerDurden "cd ~/" is what I use04:25
TylerDurdenok thanks04:25
xxtremesector 10 same problem here, i just hit the power switch04:25
tritiumsector10, you can see what the Vaio users have done here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam04:26
aerudern0odl3: and what did you do to get that?04:26
sector10xxtreme: cool you got it too04:26
n0odl3well i tried to open a cd04:26
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sector10nice04:26
n0odl3i tried it two ways04:26
axeuswhat the crap04:26
n0odl3through the terminal04:26
xxtremesector10 yeah i have vaio fs630 same problem04:26
axeusDon't tell me ubuntu doesn't come wtih GCC?04:26
n0odl3and trhough the "DVD/CDROM" option in the "computer" tab04:26
shedi"cd" is suffecient to find the root of your home dir04:26
sector10xxtreme: serious awsome!04:26
nomasteryoda|waxeus, you install it04:26
aeruderaxeus: sudo apt-get install gcc04:26
HedgeMagea;sdlkghqroi359-4--04:26
cefTylerDurden: you can also just use "cd" by itself. the default is your home dir04:26
HedgeMage5404:26
HedgeMage54gy04:26
HedgeMage404:26
aeruderaxeus: in 30 seconds you'll have gcc04:27
r0xoRhias yall :)04:27
r0xoRjust got ubuntu installed :)04:27
HedgeMageMy apologies... my 2yo got the laptop!04:27
axeusAh, cool. :)04:27
Abysmalanyone know what error code 1 is during an install??04:27
TylerDurdencef i was installing a game in terminal and i was wondering what the default was for root04:27
tritiumaxeus, you really want to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"04:27
r0xoRcheckin it out04:27
xxtremesector10 its amazing, the reboot problem i can deal with that, though04:27
Hobbseer0xoR: nice!04:27
TylerDurdenit works with ~/04:27
r0xoRyup... like 5 mins ago it finished... i'm in GNOME now04:27
r0xoRrunning the updates04:27
RATTsector10: if i change the repositories from hoary to breezy i should have no problems... right?? and then do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade04:27
xxtremesector10 just hit power switch and thats it04:27
r0xoRi installed ubuntu a few months a go and it sucked :P04:27
n0odl3does anyone know?04:27
r0xoRbut now I'm sorta trying it again, seeing how it's matured04:28
tritiumRATT, notes on upgrading to breezy are in the topic04:28
sector10RATT: i dont know i had big problems with hoary04:28
TylerDurdenhow can i force cd eject?04:28
n0odl3ok fine04:28
r0xoRit's fairly brainless and i'm looking for a good one for my dad - so it seems like it might be a good choice04:28
Hobbseer0xoR: :)04:28
n0odl3how do i upgrade to brezzy04:28
tritiumTylerDurden, did you ever enable dma?04:28
n0odl3can anyone tell me?04:28
TylerDurdenyes04:28
tritiumn0odl3, see the topic04:28
sector10RATT: i would do a fresh install04:28
TiMiDo!tell n0odl3 about breezy04:28
RATTmmmm.....04:29
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RATTstill i dont loose anything with trying04:29
Ainvarwow I tried kde for the first time in months........ I think I like gnome better now. But I do miss something that kde had over hnome04:29
sector10xxtreme: your wont reboot right? but it will power down from menu..04:29
TylerDurdenhow can i force a cd eject?04:29
axeuser04:29
AinvarTylerDurden you on a laptop right?04:29
TylerDurdendesktop04:29
xxtremesector10 yeah thats correct04:29
Ainvarwell should still work on a desktop also04:29
tritiumTylerDurden, and it worked for you?04:29
Ainvarpaperclip04:29
axeusI got alot of errors pertaining to that apt-get.04:29
r0xoRAinvar, what do you miss? kde suxors ;)04:29
TylerDurdeni think so tritium, it said dma=104:30
tritiumok04:30
n0odl3uhh i just installed gcc through the apt-get command04:30
r0xoRTylerDurden, you should be able to check hdparm or lspci or dmesg04:30
Ainvarr0xoR the little things04:30
n0odl3were can i locate it04:30
r0xoRTylerDurden, and it should tell you04:30
n0odl3or how can i runit?04:30
TylerDurdenso how can i force cd eject?04:30
r0xoRAinvar, uhh... lik?04:30
axeusI think I just needed to apt-get update.04:30
TylerDurdenlet me try that04:30
xxtremesector10 have you gotten acpi to work yet04:30
AinvarI like how I can make the terminal window a specific size in kde and it will remember it04:30
axeusIf I apt-get gcc again after I update, does it verify that everything is installed?04:30
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Ainvarin gnome I have yet to figure that out04:30
tritiumn0odl3, it's in your path.  Just type gcc...04:30
tritiumfollowed by whatever you're doing04:31
sector10xxtreme: i was told acpi is built in,04:31
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r0xoRAinvar, it was the little things that annoyed me about KDE... can't customize the pager... konqueror is a jumble and hard to look at - very annoying and cluttered04:31
TylerDurdenlol so no one knows?04:31
r0xoRAinvar, meh... use kterm in gnome then... i always use xterm04:31
TylerDurdentehres no command to eject the cd forcefuly?04:31
sector10xxtreme: which may mean you have to use a shell04:31
tritiumTylerDurden, sudo eject04:31
Ainvarthat I agree with on the jumbled mess04:31
r0xoRAinvar, you know you can specify the startup size for xterm/aterm on the command line right?04:31
TylerDurdenfailed04:31
Ainvarno I did not04:31
TylerDurdendevice is busy04:31
r0xoRAinvar, beisdes, kterm and gnome-terminal don't have 256 color support04:31
Ainvarwell I know you can do anything on the cli, but I do not know the command :)04:32
tritiumTylerDurden, sounds like it's mounted04:32
xxtremesector10_ i dont know about all that, still there are buttoms on our laptops that dont work yet04:32
Ainvarxterm huh04:32
TylerDurdenit is, im running an installer, but there has to be a way to eject04:32
Ainvarhave not used that in a long long time04:32
sector10xxtreme: i think you should join https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam i will maybe04:32
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r0xoRAinvar, hahah right well now you know you can... i usually use aterm cuz it has transparency04:32
tritiumTylerDurden, not when it's mounted04:32
r0xoRAinvar, it's like a slightly better version of xterm04:32
AinvarI think when I eas bouncing from slack to rh04:32
TylerDurdeni have a cd key written on the cd itself and im too lazy to quit the installer04:32
n0odl3everytime i type gcc it says no input files04:32
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TylerDurdenno way at all?? that sucks...04:32
sector10xxtreme: there is no notebook fs- like ours there04:32
xxtremesector10 thanks i will if you04:32
Ainvaraterm, I have not used I will try out here shortly04:32
tritiumTylerDurden, it's a smart feature04:32
sector10xxtreme: ok04:32
r0xoRAinvar, man xterm will tell you i'm sure04:32
axeusI installed GCC, but "make" will not work on this application I'm trying to compile.04:32
xxtremesector10_ cool cause i can help people04:33
Ainvarthanks04:33
TylerDurdennot really, what if linux messes up and just pretands theres something in the drive?04:33
r0xoRAinvar, yeah i don't know if it comes with 256 color support on ubuntu by default04:33
tritiumaxeus, I told you to install build-essential04:33
sector10just look for fs-660w when i get around to it.04:33
r0xoRAinvar, lotta distros don't include 256 color support04:33
r0xoRAinvar, it's available though... might have to recompile it I dunno04:33
_WSsooo.. alsamixer shows my sound, the players show it's playing, but no sound is coming out, and sound comes out fine if I pop a slax live cd in04:33
Ainvaryeah, little quirks from distro to distro04:33
sector10xxtreme: you got nvidia right?04:33
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TylerDurdenbtw how come linux only offers 24 colors while windows has 32?04:33
_WSanyone have any idea whats going on?04:33
xxtremesector_ i got the cheap video card,  lol04:33
r0xoRTylerDurden, because 32 is fake04:33
naliothtritium: you here?04:33
r0xoRTylerDurden, it's just an emulation of 2404:34
TylerDurdenno its not lol04:34
tritiumyes it is, TylerDurden04:34
crimsunTylerDurden: the 8 alpha bits are unused regardless of platform.04:34
sector10xxtreme:  well still same buggy sony bios04:34
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TylerDurden:S04:34
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xuniluserAnyone knows a good audo cd to mp3 encoder?04:34
RATTsee you guys....04:34
RATTthanx for the help04:34
rob_pTylerDurden:  "lsof /media/cdrom" will tell you what files are open on it.  You should be able to stop those processes (such as closing a window that is viewing the contents of your cdrom) that show up in the list.  Once there are no open files, you should be able to unmount and eject.04:34
TylerDurdendo u guys have any tips on speeding up ubuntu? every linux ive used was very choppy04:34
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sector10xxtreme: that is why we cannot reboot. im sure i can figure it out04:34
xxtremesector10_ i just installed more ram 1gb this thing is fast04:34
superdave42quick question...04:34
r0xoRAinvar, so anyway i really need to have 256 color colorschemes in vim... otherwise i'd go nuts trying to code stuff04:34
dougskor0xoR: do u know of any way to run something like eterm, and not have it down in the toolbar all the time?04:34
r0xoRAinvar, all the normal colorschemes are ugly as sin04:34
StalagnaHi, I can not get mozilla to display video, I believe I have installed all the necessary files yet I can't see video due to missing plugins, my browser won't find them automatically04:34
superdave42I've scewed up my xorg moduels. is there an easy way to reinstall xorg?04:35
r0xoRdougsk, uhhh... down in the toolbar? what do you mean? you mean the taskbar?04:35
TylerDurdenrob_p the problem (not really) is that im too lazy to stop the installer and eject the cd to look at the cd key written on it04:35
Ainvaryeah I just make sure I have black bg with a light offset blue for my text and i am happy04:35
_WS=\04:35
sector10xxtreme: i got 1G too, and my nvidia works better here than on my big box with expensive nvidia card04:35
dougskor0xoR: yeah my fault04:35
Ainvarbut I know for coding it is a must04:35
r0xoRAinvar, heheh see I'm a stickler when it comes to colorschemes04:35
xxtremesector10_ cool, let me know when you get around to it, I'll keep working on the acpi thing and lots more04:35
r0xoRdougsko, uhhh not offhand, i know it's possible cuz e.g. GAIM can/will do it04:35
Ainvarr0xoR I would be too if I coded04:36
xxtremesector10_ cool u lucky nvidia devil04:36
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_WSany of you guys have any clue?04:36
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sector10xxtreme: there is also http://usefulinc.com/edd/notes/UbuntuOnSonyVaioTRSeries04:36
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r0xoRdougsko, i think you can set it up with like netwmctrl if you use openbox and such04:36
Ainvarbut only need a single color to program cisco crap :)04:36
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bipolarSeveas, ping04:36
dougskor0xoR: hmm...ok cool04:36
sector10he has some good info on brightness control and stuff but its for tr series04:36
r0xoRdougsko, or pypanel. but you'd have to look at the manual for the gnome-panel probably04:36
xxtremesector10_ how's your battery life?04:36
r0xoRdougsko, i use openbox and a very super custom config usually04:36
sector10crap04:36
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dougskor0xoR: yeah i was using fluxbox for a while, but i though id give gnome a try for a while cause ive never used it before04:37
sector10xxtreme: but when i get to around 12% something keeps it going. maybe cpu throttle.04:37
whiteleyrunning 5.10-rc.  gcc doesn't work: "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory"04:37
jnoon-i have windows on here right now, and i want to install ubuntu and dual boot between them. should i use use Partition magic to create a partition for ubuntu to use, or does its installer handle all of this by itself? I want to make sure I dont wipe everything out :)04:37
naliothWiltuk: may i help you?04:37
xxtremesector10_ sony claims 4-5 hrs, i may can get 3hr, with just apps, no video or audio playing and no wifi04:37
r0xoRdougsko, actually i'm surprised at how fast gnome is on ubuntu04:37
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r0xoRit's quite nice, it's actually usable04:37
sector10xxtreme: dont know cause ubuntu hides all the difficult stuff04:37
Sandollarhey folks how do i get my display to show something  outher that 620x48004:37
sector10xxtreme: lol har har har! 4 hours04:38
r0xoRSandollar, xorg.conf04:38
sector10xxtreme: i get 45 minutes04:38
StalagnaHi, I can not get mozilla to display video, I believe I have installed all the necessary files yet I can't see video due to missing plugins, my browser won't find them automatically04:38
dougskor0xoR: yeah, better than kde (which wasnt too bad), nice clean look too04:38
tritium!tell Sandollar about resolution04:38
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r0xoRdougsko, yeah there were just numerous things about KDE that made it impossible for me to accept04:38
_RocH_jnoon-, it's better to prepare parts with PM04:38
xxtremesector10_ how you get 4hr 45 min?04:38
sector10xxtreme: in windows i get 2 hours max.04:38
sector1045 min04:39
TylerDurdenhey how can i stop the terminal from closing programs that were opened by it?04:39
sector10no hours lol04:39
TylerDurdenonce i close it*04:39
r0xoRdougsko, konsole looks like crap and is all cluttered up and the pager isn't customizable and there's no drag'n'drop with gvim04:39
whiteleyTylerDurden: try screen.04:39
TylerDurdenlets say i open gedit, and close the terminal, its annoying to find out that gedit closed too04:39
xxtremesector10_ whoooo!!???04:39
r0xoRTylerDurden, use &04:39
wickedpuppyTylerDurden, you can put those programs in bg by &04:39
sector10xxtreme: if i close the lid my battery life is longer04:39
r0xoRTylerDurden, gedit &04:39
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TylerDurdenoh thanks04:39
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Ajaylawl hi04:39
xxtremesector10_ when you close the lid, does it hibernate04:39
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Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  and use the 'exit' command - dont just hit the close button.04:40
dougskor0xoR: i never used the pager, konsole was sorta ok i guess. i didnt like konqueror at all though04:40
jnoon-_RocH_ thanks will do04:40
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zedrikat last04:40
erickhey guys Im here04:40
sector10xxtreme: lets see. !04:40
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SuseUXit amazes me how fast ubuntu devs make packages04:40
r0xoRdougsko, ahh see i gotta have my multiple desktops :)04:40
r0xoRhehe, can't live without em :)04:40
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Ajaycan someone help me with something?04:40
delltonyquestion anyone here happen to use moto4lin?04:40
zedrikhelp please about ubuntu networking04:40
r0xoRAjay, nope04:40
_RocH_jnoon-, installer cannot resize parts without destrying data on them04:40
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r0xoRdelltony, surely not04:40
dougskor0xoR: haha yes, very diggable04:40
wickedpuppyDr_Willis, how you type exit if there is no prompt ?04:40
r0xoRzedrik, not when you ask like that04:40
MRBossmanall I need help finding a good ssl/tls ftp client for ubuntu04:41
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renatosanseverocan anyone try to connect to my pc with ssh please? pvt I send the host and password04:41
delltonysurely not?04:41
sector10xxtreme: yes it works04:41
erickguys need help in compiling kerne;04:41
naliothrenatosansevero: ask your question in here04:41
StalagnaAnyone good with setting up macromedia to play video in the browser?04:41
r0xoRrenatosansevero, sure04:41
tritium_RocH_, yes it can04:41
whiteleyso nobody knows how to get the linker working on 5.10-rc?04:41
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  ctrl-z, bg, exit04:41
sector10xxtreme: wierd kde looking log in screen with some bearded bloke04:41
Ajaycan someone help me with this problem please:04:41
AjayThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:41
Ajay  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu11) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 is installed.04:41
xxtremesector10_ when u close it, does the lights turn off04:41
aeruderrenatosansevero: that's a lot of trust, not a smart one are you?04:41
renatosansevero04:41
renatosansevero200.206.255.17204:41
tritiumwhiteley, did you install build-essential?04:41
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wickedpuppyDr_Willis, well then its more than typing exit :P04:41
renatosanseverouser flash04:41
renatosanseveropassword flash04:41
aeruderrenatosansevero: oh no, man04:42
sector10xxtreme: you mean the right hand side where wlan is?04:42
_RocH_:D04:42
aeruderrenatosansevero: you are an idiot04:42
zedriki need help04:42
fishheadCANUCKS04:42
fishheadCANUCKS04:42
xxtremesector10_ yes04:42
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  if ya use & - you still want to use exit.. dont just hit the close button04:42
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r0xoRzedrik, we know :) go see your shrink04:42
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renatosanseveroi'm not... i think it doesnt have childs ehre04:42
Ajay>:O04:42
renatosanseverohere04:42
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sector10xxtreme: how about you does it work lid down04:42
whiteleytritium: indeed I did not.  installing now.  thanks.04:42
tritiumwhiteley, :);04:43
MRBossmananyone point me to a ftp client that supports ssl/tls04:43
renatosanseveroplease tell me if it works04:43
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xxtremesector10_ when i close it, the lights stay on, when i open it, i have a black screen until i touch the keyboard04:43
MRBossmaniglooftp crashes on me all the time04:43
tritiumMRBossman, gftp04:43
renatosanseveroi can't see anyone logged in04:43
n0odl3when i switch to breezy does that mean i have to reinstall my java package?04:43
zedrikanyone?04:43
Ajaycan someone help me with this?04:43
AjayThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:43
Ajay  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu11) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 is installed.04:43
sector10xxtreme: me too. and i get log in window04:43
MRBossmanI thought gftp does not support ssl04:43
StalagnaHi, I can not get mozilla to display video, I believe I have installed all the necessary files yet I can't see video due to missing plugins, my browser won't find them automatically, can someone help me please04:43
dougskosector10: do u longboard?04:43
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tjshaving issues with ubuntu on my laptop, the disks are spinning down to fast (a power saving feature?) and just traversing the fs with tab-complete is painfully splow04:44
renatosanseveroplease04:44
_RocH_MRBossman, http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/documentation/04:44
sector10xxtreme: people are going to start nagging here04:44
_RocH_:)04:44
xxtremesector10_ i dont get log in windows, i think i like that better04:44
tjshow do you change that?04:44
tritiumAjay, please avoid repeated pastes04:44
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n0odl3do i have to reinstall the breezy package instead?04:44
psusiMRBossman: don't use ftp, use http ;)04:44
sector10dougsko: whats that?04:44
psusierr, https ;)04:44
n0odl3or will the hoary package do just fine?04:44
xxtremesector10_ we\ll chat later, lets help some folks now04:44
AjayStalagna, look here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs04:44
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xxtremesector10_ thanks04:44
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MRBossmanwhy does everyone point me to filezilla when it is only windows based04:44
MRBossman?04:45
rob_prenatosansevero:  It is indeed listening on port 22.  Why do you want someone to actually establish a connection?04:45
Stalagnathank you04:45
Ajayno problem04:45
sector10dougsko: do you mean surf?04:45
dansydohi04:45
zedrikhelp about ubuntu netwotking, i cant ping my gateway, and other pc.04:45
dougskosector10: oh, its just a long skateboard. sector9 is a company that makes 'em, i thought yr nick might be a reference to it04:45
felix_:  How do I install a .deb  file ?04:45
tjsdpgk04:45
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_RocH_MRBossman,  you didn't sayed "non for win" :>04:45
n0odl3sudo dpkg04:45
n0odl3i mean dpgk04:45
tritiumfelix_, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb04:45
psusiMRBossman: have you tried reading up on webdav?04:45
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renatosanseverorob_p  how so? what you mean?04:45
felix_ok04:45
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ChadzaDoes anyone know of any other fonts other than monospace that have consistant spacing like it?04:46
n0odl3does this mean i that i have to dpgk everything like the vlc client04:46
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n0odl3and java04:46
n0odl3?04:46
renatosanseveroi'm not a native english speker i don't know what indeed mean04:46
ChadzaThat come standard with ubuntu.04:46
zedrikanyone?04:46
sector10dougsko: oh. well i used to be a skate punk years ago04:46
MRBossmanuh I assumed which I know I should not have that everyone in the ubuntu channel would think I was talking about a ubunutu client04:46
psusifull file management and versioning ( with the deltaV extentions ) over http/https... it's quite nifty04:46
n0odl3hello?04:46
tritiumhi04:46
Ajayindeed = confirmation04:46
rob_prenatosansevero:  What are you trying to accomplish?  Are you simply trying to verify that your ssh server is accessible from the 'Net?04:46
zedrikwhat goin on here04:46
sector10dougsko: too old and broken bones now.04:46
sector10xxtreme: ill chat later04:47
axeusFlup, trying to figure out where to put this script that I want to run on boot, before X.04:47
kelsey23@tritium Bonsoir04:47
n0odl3if i upgrade to breezy does that mean i have to dpgk the vlc client and java?04:47
tritiumhi kelsey2304:47
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renatosanseverorob_p because i need it working well tomorrow04:47
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renatosanseveroand i can't connect using my own ip here...04:47
dougskosector10: cool, i used to street skate some, but once i got on a 48" board, i never went back. they just cruise like cadilacs04:47
axeusubuntu threw me04:47
nomasteryoda|waxeus, its basically same04:47
nomasteryoda|wplace04:47
renatosanseverorob_p and i can't connect using my own ip here...04:47
nomasteryoda|w/etc/init.d/rc*04:48
kelsey23@tritium parlez-vous francais?04:48
zedriksdpkasdjg'asdg04:48
n0odl3hello?04:48
tritiumkelsey23, no, sorry.  try #ubuntu-fr04:48
WiltukHey, does anybody know how to get the mplayer plug-in to support realplayer files (ram & rm)? According to their site they're disabled by default, and I followed some instructions I found in their faq, but it doesn't seem to work04:48
rob_prenatosansevero:  If so, I just verified that you do indeed have a service listening on port 22.  I'd say it works just fine.04:48
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sector10dougsko: cool!04:48
tritiumagain, hi, n0odl304:48
axeusnomasteryoda|w: Actually. If it's any significance I'm using Breezy Preview. All the rc.*04:48
n0odl3hi tritium04:48
kelsey23@tritium I speak English too lol04:48
n0odl3sorry im a total n00b04:48
tritiumkelsey23, :)04:48
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axeus's are in /etc/.. and /etc/init.d just has one rc file04:48
zedrikis there anyone can HELP!!!!!04:48
n0odl3but does upgrading to breezy mean that i have to dpgk everything again?04:48
renatosanseverorob_p i have a friend who tried connect using putty ... and he said it also failure04:48
Zealothi04:48
tritiumzedrik, your last message was nonsense04:48
Ajayzedrik, that's what I want to know =P04:49
MRBossmanis my job the only one that requires me to use ftp over ssl/tls04:49
zedrikcant ping my gateway04:49
kelsey23@tritium Sometimes I like to talk in french and get flamed and laugh at ignorant people lol04:49
MRBossman:)04:49
felix_I'm trying to install the driver for my printer, i did get tehm from the website, and  dpkg -1 the .deb file, but it makes an error  (you can see it here : http://rafb.net/paste/results/PLVd5T73.html ) can someone help ?04:49
n0odl3tritium?04:49
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renatosanseveroand... when I ping my own IP it doesn't answer04:49
tritiumwhat, n0odl3 ?04:49
zedriktritium ill pm you04:49
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tritiumzedrik, please ask the channel04:49
renatosanseverops. my reak ip04:49
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n0odl3when i upgrade to breezy will i have to get java again and dpkg my vlc and do all those restricted stuff?04:50
sector10xxtreme: there is also a ubuntu-offtopic04:50
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tritiumn0odl3, if you upgrade, those package don't just vanish04:50
dougskon0odl3: nope, youll still be good04:50
Ajayn0odle, installing java is easy ;o04:50
n0odl3ok04:50
n0odl3thank you04:50
n0odl3sorry for buggin you04:50
tritiumyou're not04:51
n0odl3ok04:51
n0odl3cool04:51
dooglusyou'll have to reinstall java, I think04:51
n0odl3thank you04:51
n0odl3oh04:51
n0odl3ok04:51
n0odl3no big deal04:51
n0odl3how do i uninstall my old java package (hoary)?04:51
renatosanseverorob_p are you there?04:51
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renatosanseverorob_p are you there?04:51
zedriktritium go #me04:51
zedriktritium go #me04:51
azambujahello04:51
WiltukWhen I upgraded from hoary, java came over fine04:51
dooglusn0odl3: the new one will replace it04:51
sector10dougsko: have fun see ya04:51
tritiumzedrik, please just ask the channel.  I can't04:51
n0odl3ok04:51
dooglusWiltuk: sun java?04:51
azambujais ubuntu focus "only" desktop? or does it have focus on the server also?04:51
n0odl3can you tell me the page to get the .deb file?04:51
LordphynI haven't been able to get my video working consistently; I got rid of the mplayer-plugin and used mediaplayerconnectivity--but video performance overall has been disappointing, with maybe a third of all video i encounter being viewable, any help?04:51
dougskosector10: shake it easy04:51
n0odl3for breezy?04:51
Wiltukdooglus: yes04:51
rob_prenatosansevero:  Again, you appear to have a service listening on port 22.  Whether or not it works as it should is another story.  Why don't you try ssh-ing to it yourself on local loopback.  Since I already verified that it's accessible from the 'Net, all you have left is to verify that it actually functions properly.  A local login will verify that.04:51
sydwhi all04:52
zedriktritium where are you04:52
sector10dougsko: break a leg!04:52
dougskohaha04:52
sydwi'm having an insane problem04:52
tritiumzedrik, in my house04:52
Ajaycan someone help me with installing libc6?04:52
zedrikomg04:52
macgeekzedrik: whats your question?04:52
dougskowhats up, sydw04:52
zedrikgo #me04:52
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Ajaythere is a problem with libc6-dev04:52
tritiumzedrik, no, please ask here in the channel04:52
zedriktritium go #me04:52
n0odl3uhh can some one tell me where the java.deb file is?04:52
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rob_prenatosansevero:  Just do a, "ssh localhost" and it should connect.04:52
erickhi nalioth04:52
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zedriki cant ping my gateway04:52
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erickjust need help in compiling my kernel04:53
tritiumn0odl3, in unofficial repositories, since it's not legal to distribute04:53
zedriktritium: i cant ping my gateway04:53
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zedriktritium what is the problem04:53
doogluszedrik: type "ping <gateway>" in a terminal, where <gateway> is your gateway's IP address04:53
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tritiumzedrik, you haven't given me much to go on04:53
n0odl3ok04:53
zedriktritium but 100% loss04:53
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n0odl3strange someone told ubotu to tell me a java.deb page before04:53
n0odl3hmmm04:54
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tritiumn0odl3, yeah, one of those unofficial sites04:54
naliotherick: howdy04:54
renatosanseverorob_p thank you... but i'm not sure but i Think if i have this ip that i sent you... if I use my ip to connect ssh, since it is available on port 22 it should work., dosn't ?04:54
erickBreezy nalioth latest version04:54
CarlFKis everything in the Main repo "Open Source"?04:54
Ainvarnight all and thanks for all the great information04:54
sydw_does anyone find that the typing direction spontaneously reverses? I installed ubuntu for someone and they have this happen regularly.04:54
n0odl3do you happen to know it?04:54
dooglusn0odl3: there's an offical package called 'java-package' or something like that.  it takes the sun .bin file and turns it into a ubuntu .deb package04:54
renatosanseveroexample:  "ssh user@200.xxx.xxx.xxx"04:54
erickCarl I thinhk all opensource04:54
zedriktritium: thats why i need you go in #me04:54
CarlFKerick - and so Open Office is Open Source?04:55
tritiumzedrik, please, I don't have time for that04:55
renatosanseveroit just work localhost04:55
naliotherick: yes?04:55
r0xoRerm... what is "breezy" ?04:55
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zedrikOMG!!!!04:55
bimberir0xoR: the next release of ubuntu04:55
dooglusr0xoR: "breezy badger" is the next release.  due on the 13th04:55
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erickyes openoffice is an open source or should say free software04:55
Ajayo_O04:55
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Ajayif it is due on the 13th, how do I have it??04:55
wickedpuppyCarlFK, openoffice.org ... not openoffice04:55
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zedrikanyone here can help me!!!!04:55
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CarlFKwickedpuppy - roger that.04:56
r0xoRbimberi, hmmm i downloaded this ubuntu CD about 3 days ago04:56
chizangis there an option in about:config that controls whether closing the last open tab also closes the browser? (i'd like to turn that off)04:56
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wickedpuppyAjay, you can go forward in time or wait or get the latest release from the web04:56
r0xoRso ... i don't suppose i got the breezy release did I...04:56
Ajay=/04:56
AjayI am confuzled04:56
chizangwhoops, i was talking about firefox... ^^04:56
kagen_ok guys, I need some help, my monitor can push 1024x768x32@75, I can only set the refresh rate to 60hz for some reason, and it's KILLING ME! what can I do?04:56
Stalagnacan't get video to play in my browser, tried installing all the codecs and reinstalled macromedia and still prompting me for more plugins04:56
dooglusAjay: you have a development version I guess.04:56
Ajayhmm04:56
Ajayok04:56
Ajaylol04:56
wickedpuppykagen_, how is it killing you ?04:56
azambujaanyone knows a good guide to remotely install ubuntu?04:56
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ericknalioth,when I issue the command make xconfig error occur "/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found04:56
erick" and I thought this is gcc issue and check my gcc i is the latest04:57
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dooglusAjay: it's been available for 6 months, as it was developer04:57
dougskokagen_: i had the same prob today and i have the solution04:57
kagen_it hurts my eyes04:57
dooglus*developed04:57
CarlFKhttp://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview/view?searchterm=release04:57
kagen_I need 70 or higher04:57
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kagen_gives me a headache04:57
AjayI would never knowingly get a development version but ok...04:57
CarlFKer, nto that./04:57
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naliotherick: install 'build-essential'04:57
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renatosanseveroi have other question.. is it impossible to run KDE under ubuntu ?04:57
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wickedpuppykagen_, why not lower it to 1024 X 768 ?04:57
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wickedpuppyrenatosansevero, yes04:57
CarlFKkinda that: http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview04:57
dooglusAjay: so how did you get it?04:57
n0odl3nalioth do you happen to know the page for the .deb file for java?04:57
r0xoRrenatosansevero, correct... it is impossible04:57
kagen_I run at 1024 x 76804:57
r0xoR:P04:57
StalagnaAJay: I installed all the codecs from the link you recommended and still have no luck with video in the browser04:57
kagen_with 32 bit colour04:57
bimberiazambuja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation - look at the Advanced Install stuff04:57
dougskokagen_: hold on a sec though so i can double check the file names04:57
kagen_ok04:58
r0xoRkagen_, mmm... that has to do with your xorg.conf and afaik you can even set 32 bit04:58
Ajayfrom the website... but if I had read "development" I would have looked for a more stable version04:58
r0xoRkagen_, the most you can set is 2404:58
kagen_hmm...04:58
naliothubotu: tell n0odl3 about java04:58
kagen_hold on04:58
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AjayStalagna, I'm sorry, that is all I know about it =(04:58
dooglusAjay: you probably read "preview" or "release candidate", did you?04:58
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renatosanseverotks04:58
Ajayprolly not04:58
Ajay=/04:58
dougskokagen_: ok look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:58
Ajaybut in any case, it's no big deal04:58
wickedpuppyrenatosansevero, i mean yes its possible ...04:59
wickedpuppyi thought you asked if its possible ...04:59
n0odl3thanks04:59
ericknalioth, I already install that04:59
erickmy build-essential is the latese04:59
renatosanseveroooh..  so it is possible?.. how can i install ?04:59
renatosanseveroare there some matter ?04:59
r0xoRrenatosansevero, use synaptic04:59
kagen_dougsko, i'm there04:59
AjayStalagna, what is the video extention?05:00
naliotherick: install "gcc-3.4"05:00
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renatosanseveror0xoR what should I install ?05:00
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r0xoRrenatosansevero, you should install KDE05:00
starscallinghrm05:00
azambujabimberi: i click on the link and it says page does not exist!05:00
starscallinghow can one enable japanese language support?05:00
sydneywhelp05:00
sydneywhas anyone ever seen text direction reverse spontaneously?05:00
ericknalioth thanks I got it from the repo05:00
dougskokagen_: sorry i was looking for the line u need. ok find the line where it says Supported additional Video Mode05:00
budluvadoes breezy use the same human theme from hoary?05:00
kagen_k05:00
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renatosanseveror0xoR which package?05:00
DrAbysshow much difference do you think there will be between the rc and final in 3 days??05:01
bimberiazambuja: which link?05:01
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budluvaDrAbyss, about 3 days difference05:01
budluvaDrAbyss, you can dl 5.10rc and apt-get update, will be the same in 3 days05:01
kagen_I don't see it.....05:01
zedrikOMG, help please, someone available for NETWRKING UBUNTU !!!05:01
bimberirenatosansevero: installing kubuntu-desktop gets you a kubuntu system (includes kde)05:01
r0xoRrenatosansevero, kdebase05:01
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zedrikim UPSET05:02
r0xoRrenatosansevero, open synaptic, on the left click on "KDE Desktop Environment" and then scroll down and select "kdebase"05:02
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sydneywhas anyone had problems with text direction spontaneously reversing?05:02
tritiumzedrik, please be patient and less insistent05:02
renatosanseveror0xoR I mean...there are lots of packages about kde to instal here.. so, after installation will it be avaliable ? what command do I use to start kde ?05:02
dougskokagen_: try, cat Xorg.0.log|grep -i supported additional video modes05:02
r0xoRzedrik, well first thing is stop being upset05:02
rob_pzedrik:  What's up?05:02
azambujabimberi: the from harddisk link05:02
renatosanseverothanks05:02
zedrikOkay ill wait here till some good person help me T_T05:02
azambujabimberi: i found one from another distro05:02
r0xoRzedrik, the only thing that does is degrade your health and minorly annoy the rest of us05:02
kagen_dougsko, do I just type that into the terminal?05:02
DrAbyssi had 5.04 installed and d/led kubutu just to see the kde vesrion and i couldn't get it installed to save my life.. error galore...05:02
dougskokagen_: yup05:02
DrAbyss!ask kde-desktop05:03
ubotuDrAbyss: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:03
zoexiihello, I need help with an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy gone awry, i cannot get ndiswrapper working again, I followed the instructions on the wiki (unistall then reinstall the driver) and it solves nothing.  any ideas?05:03
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naliothDrAbyss: ask us a question05:03
tritiumthat was productive, nyblioth05:03
r0xoRzedrik, here is the solution to your networking problem: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:03
DrAbysshow does one ask ubotu questions??05:03
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boneehow do i find a program i install in ubuntu05:04
dougskokagen_: basically, its like this, the config file has some refresh ranges set, but theyre not 'exactly' what the driver wants, so u gotta find the right range in the log file and change the config file to match05:04
r0xoRDrAbyss, uhhh you think of what to say and then type it into the chat window?05:04
DrAbysshow do i get kde runinng on 5.10?05:04
nybliothlol05:04
kagen_cat: invalid option -- i05:04
kagen_Try `cat --help' for more information.05:04
naliothubotu: tell DrAbyss about ubotu05:04
r0xoRDrAbyss, synaptic05:04
naliothDrAbyss: install "kubuntu-desktop"05:04
boneeubotu: tell me about torsmo05:04
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r0xoRnalioth, "install" is a program?05:04
boneeubotu: tell me about tormso05:04
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naliothr0xoR: "install" is a variable used with "apt-get"05:05
r0xoRbonee, or just check in synaptic to see if it's there or go download it and compile it from source05:05
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boneei did all that05:05
r0xoRnalioth, uhh... what do you mean by that? how is it used?05:05
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r0xoRbonee, you downloaded and compiled it from source?05:05
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boneeyes05:05
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r0xoRbonee, so then what's your question?05:05
naliothr0xoR: in a terminal you type "sudo apt-get install $pkgname"05:06
boneewhere is it installed to05:06
r0xoRnalioth, oh right ok05:06
boneeyues05:06
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dougskokagen_: try this, 'cat Xorg.0.log | grep -i ranges'05:06
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r0xoRnalioth, now i understand... personally i understand that as an "argument" rather than a variable but i get it now thx :)05:06
r0xoRbonee, locate torsmo05:06
naliothr0xoR: i'm a redneck. i'm lucky to speak english05:06
r0xoRbonee, probably /usr/local/bin05:06
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boneethankz05:07
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r0xoRnalioth, heheh, we're both rednecks :) nice ta meatcha05:07
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r0xoRbonee, also "which torsmo"05:07
colin__Can someone help me understand how to install programs with Linux, I am certainly a newb05:07
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zedriktritium: i thought it was a site can help about this, a good friend told me about ubuntu mirc and they can help me about my problem, and this all i got in this chat room?im too upset about this mirc05:07
_RocH_MRBossman, are you there ? :>05:07
r0xoRcolin__, use synaptic05:07
bimberiubotu tell colin__ about synaptic05:07
boneewhat u mean05:07
wickedpuppycolin__, there are many ways ... for ubuntu , use synaptic or apt-get05:07
kagen_dou05:07
kagen_dougsko, cat: Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory05:08
tritiumzedrik, you haven't even told us the details of your problem05:08
DrAbysswhat is adept??05:08
r0xoRbonee, i mean type the words "which" and "torsmo" into a terminal back to back05:08
FlyingSquirrel32what is a good encyclopedia for someone that doesn't have internet connection?05:08
naliothubotu: tell colin__ about apt-get05:08
naliothubotu: tell colin__ about synaptic05:08
zedrikhow can i tell my problem05:08
FlyingSquirrel32(on linux)05:08
r0xoRzedrik, did you read that link I gave you?05:08
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colin__Wow, thanks guys05:08
r0xoRzedrik, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:08
boneefound it05:08
tritiumzedrik, to get good support, ask good questions, and give plenty of details05:08
bonee/usr/bin/torsmo05:08
zedrikthe link you gave can help me05:08
ericknalioth, your first suggestion work but after that another error again " Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the05:08
r0xoRtritium, let him read the link :)05:08
erick* QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR05:08
erick* environment variable is set to the correct location.05:08
erick"05:08
tritiumzedrik, how can we solve your problem if you can't describe it?05:08
r0xoRzedrik, yes i know it can help you that's why i gave it to you05:09
r0xoRzedrik, so read it05:09
naliotherick: please dont paste in here05:09
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erickIm sorry nalioth05:09
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zedriktim searching for forums, other sites05:09
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r0xoRzedrik, did you read that link i gave you?05:09
naliotherick: install libqt-bleh-dev   where -bleh- is the version matching what you have installed05:09
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zedrikhuh05:10
r0xoRzedrik, ok you're apparently not to bright05:10
r0xoRzedrik, i'll repeat the question05:10
r0xoRzedrik, did you read that link i gave you?05:10
zedrikT_T05:10
zedrikyah05:10
Strike4ceWow this works on ubuntu.  I downloaded mirc for windows with wine and it works.  Will it heat up my processor?05:10
r0xoRzedrik, this one... http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:10
tritiumeasy there, r0xoR05:10
luckyabacan you apt-get old packages.. its saying i need libncurses 5.4.4 but its trying to install 5.4-905:10
r0xoRzedrik, did you read the whole thing?05:10
zoexiihello, I need help with an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy gone awry, i cannot get ndiswrapper working again, I followed the instructions on the wiki (unistall then reinstall the driver) and it solves nothing.  any ideas?05:10
tritiumwe need to keep it friendly05:10
zedrikits ther same05:10
r0xoRtritium, i'm being easy bro :)05:10
zedrikits the same05:10
wickedpuppyStrike4ce, if you are on ubuntu , use xchat ?05:10
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TokenBadin the weather applet that can put in panel05:10
r0xoRtritium, trust me... go to #freebsd and you'll se what "not taking it easy" really means :P05:10
zedriksorry guys if you all mad at me05:10
TokenBadhow can get it to read F instead of C?05:10
r0xoRzedrik, it's the same as what? it's exactly what you need bro05:10
tritiumr0xoR, still, don't call people "not too bright" please05:11
r0xoRzedrik, we can't do JACK for you until you understand how to act in here... so go read that link05:11
zedriki configure all of it, but cant connect tho T_T05:11
r0xoRtritium, aight i'll attempt to refrain05:11
tritiums/aight/all right05:11
Strike4cehow do I use Internet explorer with wine?05:11
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r0xoRStrike4ce, read the manual?05:11
TylerDurdenut2k4 is driving me mad. it doesnt work again, it just quits after the splash screen. does anyone know how to fix it?05:11
DrAbysshas anyone here installed the kde desktop under 510??05:11
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Yetr2Strike4ce, install wine, download and install IE via wine..05:12
r0xoRStrike4ce, like this http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie605:12
tritiumStrike4ce, winetools (from winehq.com) makes installing IE a breeze05:12
Strike4ceHow do I get into wine to do it?05:12
r0xoRStrike4ce, see that link i posted05:12
r0xoRStrike4ce, that'll install IE6 for you automatically05:12
r0xoRStrike4ce, i'd suggest installing wine from synaptic, then use that link05:12
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TylerDurdenno one plays ut2k4 :(05:13
Strike4ceits already installed05:13
r0xoRTylerDurden, uhhh yeah they do... lot of people do05:13
TylerDurdenut2k4 is driving me mad. it doesnt work again, it just quits after the splash screen. does anyone know how to fix it?05:13
r0xoRStrike4ce, ok then go here: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie605:13
TylerDurdenlol do  know what it could be then?05:13
r0xoRTylerDurden, are you using cedega?05:13
TylerDurdenno05:13
TylerDurdennative linux ut2k405:13
r0xoRTylerDurden, hmmm oh right UT2004 has that doesn't it05:14
r0xoRTylerDurden, i don't know then man... call the UT folks05:14
r0xoRTylerDurden, that's their deal05:14
r0xoRTylerDurden, do you have an nvidia card?05:14
TylerDurdenyeah05:14
r0xoRTylerDurden, do you have the nvidia driver installed?05:14
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tritiumTylerDurden, I don't play games05:14
TylerDurdenyup05:14
caonexanybody with ndiswrapper?05:14
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zoexiicaonex, yes, yes.  YES05:15
Strike4ceok roxor its in the archive now05:15
r0xoRStrike4ce, it's in the what?05:15
hockeydaveokay i got this loaded up on an old computer... what separates this from XP... other that it being 300 dollars cheaper05:15
Strike4celol im not sure05:15
tritiumhockeydave, take it for a test drive, and you'll see05:15
hockeydavehehe, good one05:15
r0xoRhockeydave, what do you mean?05:15
r0xoRhockeydave, lots of things separate it from XP05:15
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TylerDurdenhow do u guys write the peoples names so perfect? i mean im sure u have a script or something, im sure you dont type the name manually05:15
r0xoRhockeydave, an entire hard drive partition for one...05:16
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r0xoRTylerDurden, type the first few letters and hit tab05:16
wickedpuppyTylerDurden, tab05:16
jwd_ps05:16
TylerDurdenoh thats right i used it in terminal today by accident05:16
chizangare there plans to upgrade SQLObject in breezy to version 0.7?05:16
zoexiiTylerDurden, start typing, then hit tab05:16
r0xoRTylerDurden, r0x<tab> will do my name05:16
hockeydaveokay i guess that works for me...05:16
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TylerDurdenyeah pretty cool05:16
r0xoRhockeydave, what do you want to know specifically?05:16
Yetr2TylerDurden, tab auto-complete... most applications are using the method05:16
r0xoRhockeydave, Linux can do anything and everything windows can do... and then some05:16
budluvahow do i find out what version of a package i have?05:17
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r0xoRhockeydave, the only real reason to keep using windows is... well... there isn't one really...05:17
tritiumbudluva, apt-cache policy <packagename>05:17
orkois it possible to make a custom hoary install cd with a replaced driver module? (aacraid)05:17
tritium(that's one way)05:17
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hockeydavelike i hear you can "customize" the desktop and crap like that05:17
r0xoRhockeydave, actually windows still has a market share hold over  IE and IE in wine doesn't render pages the same way as it does on windows... so for site testing... i still have to use windows05:17
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r0xoRhockeydave, yes you can05:17
Yetr2hockeydave, you can do what ever you please to the desktop.05:18
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Yetr2you can install different managers which can do weird and funky things to the window05:18
r0xoRhockeydave, there are numerous desktops you can use as well... as opposed to the one and only "explorer.exe" which you get on windows... you get many options... GNOME, KDE, OpenBox, WindowMaker, Enlightenment, FVWM, FluxBox, IceWM, XFCE05:18
hockeydaveyeah that is like the basic stuff... but there is always a "call" of sorts to programmers to help the open source community...05:18
r0xoRhockeydave, those are most of the major desktop environments you can use and configure and customize05:18
Yetr2the title bar on windows apps, they don't have to be there if you don't want them05:19
hockeydavecool05:19
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ngmlinux_anyone here running breezy badger?05:19
salfdhello, question..05:19
r0xoRhockeydave, uhhh... open source isn't relegated just to linux... there are open source apps on windows too05:19
hockeydaveso really what can i do, just f'ing around to help the community?05:19
zedrik21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 ethernet doesnt recognize ubuntu 5.0405:19
salfdyou know how windows has "C:\program files" as to all the programs?05:19
Strike4ceok I downloaded sidenet roxor now what?05:19
ngmlinux_salfd yes05:19
salfdwhat's linux's programs directory?05:19
Yetr2hockeydave, programming, support, testing, etc.05:19
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r0xoRhockeydave, uhhh... i dunno... what do you WANT to do... just poke around and find a project that interests you and donate your time and energy05:19
r0xoRsalfd, lots of them05:20
ngmlinux_salfd linux is a bi*ch to find the programs05:20
naliothubotu: tell salfd about cli05:20
r0xoRsalfd, it's called the "path" and there are numerous directories that hold programs05:20
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ngmlinux_salfd linus uses a much less elegant solutions05:20
Yetr2/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games05:20
chizangngmlinux_:  uh, how about "which foo" ?05:20
hockeydaveKingBahamut: ill be on tomorrow i guess...05:20
TylerDurdenso no one knows how to fix the ut2k4 splash screen crash?05:20
tritiumngmlinux_, not really05:20
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ngmlinux_salfd they can be in bin, sbin, usr/bin usr/sbin05:20
r0xoRngmlinux_, naw not really... you're just lazy or you don't know what you're doing yet05:20
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Yetr2ngmlinux_, `echo $PATH`05:20
r0xoRngmlinux_, yeah or "locate foo"05:20
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ngmlinux_anybody here able to compile in breezy?05:21
hockeydavei just need to find a project or something... any hints on where to go to find out?05:21
tritiumor which05:21
salfdok, I just installed ScrollZ05:21
salfdI've configured it and everything05:21
Yetr2locate only works if you decide to use the find utilities05:21
r0xoRngmlinux_, compile WHAT in breezy05:21
salfdbut I have no idea where the program goes...05:21
tritiumngmlinux_, of course you can compile in breezy05:21
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ngmlinux_kernel modules R0xoR05:21
tritiumsalfd, which package?05:21
r0xoRngmlinux_, WHAT kernel modules05:21
ngmlinux_ov51x r0xoR05:21
salfdtitanium: what do you mean?05:21
r0xoRthere we go... that's better05:21
salfdI downloaded it..05:21
ngmlinux_can't find a build directory r0xoR05:21
r0xoRnope, never tried to compile that in my life :)05:21
colin__I am trying to install a program that I downloaded, and the "add applications" program does not list it and neither does the more advanced "Synaptic" Am I doing something wrong?05:21
r0xoRngmlinux_, uhhh... /usr/src/linux ?05:22
Yetr2salfd, normally, default for user compiled applications is in /usr/bin05:22
r0xoRngmlinux_, have you ever compiled a kernel before?05:22
zoexiihello, can anyone here help with ndiswrapper on a breezy upgrade?05:22
ngmlinux_make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.05:22
ngmlinux_make: *** [all]  Error 205:22
zedrik21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 ethernet doesnt recognize ubuntu 5.0405:22
tritiumngmlinux_, you don't have the linux-headers installed05:22
ngmlinux_any body have a clue on that error message?  I have the kernel source install05:22
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r0xoRngmlinux_, apt-get install kernel-devel probably05:22
tritiumno05:23
ngmlinux_kernel-devel is the package? okay05:23
ngmlinux_let me take a look05:23
ngmlinux_I have the kernel source05:23
SuseUXAnyone running gdesklets with xcomposite?05:23
tritiumsudo apt-get intsall linux-headers-`uname -r`, ngmlinux_05:23
tritiumnot kernel-devel at all05:23
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zoexii??05:24
[GoClick(n=goclick@139.142.50.189)] !init.d05:24
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Concord_Dawn!breezy05:24
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:24
Concord_Dawnweee!05:24
zoexiiSuseUX, is that suppsed to be like widgets?05:24
kagen_dougsko, it worked man.05:24
kagen_thanks05:25
SuseUXzoexii, yes05:25
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GoClickI need to add something to /etc/init.d/ that has the same "binaryname command" as apache does05:25
GoClickWhat do I do?05:25
zoexiiSuseUX, I have never heard of it, how is it.05:25
ngmlinux_okay i just installed those tritium05:25
ngmlinux_and make still gives the same error05:25
ngmlinux_do i need to restart tritium?05:25
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tritiumno, ngmlinux_05:26
SuseUXzoexii, http://suseux.commscentral.net:8000/Screenshot.png05:26
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DrAbyssduring the install.. what is term3 for??05:26
ngmlinux_tritium, what is my next step here?05:26
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zoexiiConcord_Dawn, was that intended for me?05:26
joe_hi guys05:26
Concord_Dawnno05:26
Concord_Dawnthat was intended for me05:26
Concord_DawnI was wondering if there was a breezy upgrade guide05:26
dougskowhats up joe05:26
joe_i need help with my players. real, xine, mplayer05:26
Concord_Dawnalthough if it helped you, that's great ^_^05:26
tritiumngmlinux_, go about whatever you were doing before05:27
zoexiiright on.... that's what I've been following.05:27
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ngmlinux_tritium i did the make again05:27
joe_dougsk, i can't get any video out of any of them05:27
ngmlinux_and it gives the same error tritium05:27
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turner_hm05:27
caonexzoexii, are you still there?05:27
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zoexiicaonex, yes,05:28
tritiumngmlinux_, can you verify that the directory is there?05:28
joe_dougsk, in xine all i get is a green screen. and in mplayer and realplayer they get stuck05:28
caonexzoexii, thank god05:28
dougskojoe: hmm...thats a tough one, any more details?05:28
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wickedpuppyjoe_, what about totem ?05:28
caonexzoexii, do you have a broadcom? are you running it in 64 bit?05:28
joe_same thing05:28
dougskodid u apt-get them?05:28
joe_yes05:28
zoexiicaonex, oh?05:28
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ngmlinux_tritium, apt-getting kernel-devel did not create it05:28
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tritiumngmlinux_, I told you that's not the package to grab.05:29
ngmlinux_tritium, the directory is not there05:29
zoexiicaonex, excuse me, a broadcom?  I doubt it.05:29
DrAbyssanyone else have trouble installing 5.10rc?? I have tried 6 times now.. 3 with ubuntu 3 with kubuntu all 6 times I get install errors on clean installs.. I had no problems installing 5.04  mybe i should just reinstall 5.04 and upgrade..05:29
dougskojoe: so it did install all the libraries and such that they need to work?05:29
ngmlinux_tritium, i did yours too05:29
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caonexzoexii, hehe, is it 32 bit?05:29
jwwolftrying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a ide hd but it stops after trying to crc promise tech raid controller any help?05:29
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ngmlinux_sudo apt-get -f install linux-headers-`uname -r`05:29
zoexiicaonex, I am just (trying) to run Ndiswrapper.  not getting much help here.05:29
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caonexzoexii, i compiled mine, it detects it and all, but it wont acquire the AP MAc address05:29
joe_can i show you my terminal output after i tried usuoing them? their abit long05:29
tritiumwhy did you need the -f, ngmlinux_ ?05:29
caonexzoexii, oh...hehe05:29
jwwolftrying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a ide hd but it stops after trying to crc promise tech raid controller any help?05:29
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ngmlinux_tritium, it gave an error and said use -f05:30
zoexiicaonex, It stopped working after I upgraded to Breezy,05:30
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kurtbecanyone get the issue with firefox and mouse themes figured out?05:30
caonexzoexii, oh i see, ehe05:30
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CurseLinuxcan anyone tell me how to permanently mount the windows file system?05:30
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zoexiiCurseLinux, It has something to do with fstab,05:31
zoexiiCurseLinux, read the man page, and you will probably figure it out,05:31
ngmlinux_tritium, anyway to fix this or is this beyond fixing in breezy?05:31
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DrAbyssjwwolf.. where does yours crap out??05:31
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zoexiiCurseLinux, you just have to add a line to the fstab config file or something like that.05:31
r0xoRhow come gvim didn't get added to my gnome menu when i installed it from synaptic?05:32
TylerDurdenahh just for some of u guys to know so u can tell other ppl... ut2k4 didnt work because the cd wasnt correct05:32
CurseLinuxokay05:32
CurseLinuxI'll look into it05:32
CurseLinuxthanx05:32
TylerDurdenthe cd key needs to be all upper case05:32
r0xoRTylerDurden, there you go05:32
ngmlinux_tritium, you still with me?05:32
TylerDurdenare there cracks for linux?05:32
joe_dougsk, may i paste my terminal output here or would that be inappropriate?05:32
tritiumngmlinux_, sounds like you're doing something wrong05:32
r0xoRTylerDurden, no05:32
tritiumTylerDurden, inappropriate question05:32
TylerDurdenit took me like 45 min to install ut2k4, i really dont wanna reinstall it05:32
zedriktritium: got no feedback05:32
TylerDurdensry05:32
r0xoRTylerDurden, innappropriate anyway05:32
SuseUXTylerDurden, you dont need them05:32
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TylerDurdenwell i own the game i just dont wanna reinstall it so its perfectly legal05:33
ngmlinux_tritium, I'll pastebin my shell05:33
r0xoRTylerDurden, suuuure it is05:33
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TylerDurden...05:33
r0xoRTylerDurden, even so... it's still innappropriate05:33
TylerDurdenok ok lol05:33
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TylerDurdenhow do i uninstall it?05:33
r0xoRTylerDurden, well now you KNOW how to do it05:33
SuseUXTylerDurden, linux games dont usually need the cd in so no cd check05:33
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r0xoRTylerDurden, so you should be able to reinstall in a minimal amount of time05:33
tritiumTylerDurden, this is not a games support channel05:34
TylerDurdenhow can i uninstall it tho?05:34
SuseUXthere is a uninistall script05:34
TylerDurdenwell it has to do with ubuntu cuz thats what im using and i thought it was a linux problem05:34
r0xoRTylerDurden, dude this is ubuntu not #UT2004Support05:34
TylerDurdenSuseUX, where?05:34
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r0xoRTylerDurden, no it's a "the makers of your game problem" and actually it's probably more likely to be a PEBKAC error05:34
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o81e9FozMhey all.  i was wondering if you all could help me with a problem i ran into installing breezy today05:34
SuseUXin /usr/local/games/ut200405:34
cafuego_!test05:34
ubotuPassed.05:34
r0xoR!test05:35
TylerDurdenr0xoR, please relax05:35
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TylerDurdeni though it was a problem with linux05:35
r0xoRTylerDurden, i'm quite relaxed... i'm just stating the obvious05:35
ngmlinux_tritium, what did I enter wrong here? http://pastebin.com/38977605:35
kurtbeco81e9FozM: whats the problem?05:35
r0xoRTylerDurden, no it's most definitely a PEBKAC error05:35
SuseUXTylerDurden, just run the uninstall script in there05:35
uiwhat dvd writer do you recomend me?05:35
uiim talking about a program05:35
r0xoRTylerDurden, it's no fault of ubuntu that's all i'm saying05:35
Strike4ceI have a dell laptop dual boot system with ati radeon pro turbo 128mb graphics card what do I need to do to set it up?05:35
TylerDurdenr0xoR,  i dont even know what that is but its a cd key problem k? i thought it was a linux/driver problem please back off05:35
hyphenatedui: I use k3b, but it's a KDE app, so it might require some other libraries05:36
o81e9FozMi have an hp mini tower that i got through the install on, but when i restarted after taking the cd out.. i get a 'operating system not found' error05:36
joe_ok all, i am having serious problems with my xine, realplayer, and mplayer. can anyone help a new guy out?05:36
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tritiumngmlinux_, you didn't successfully install the linux-headers package because another one is broken, and hasn't been fixed05:36
uihyphe~ thanks05:36
hyphenatedStrike4ce: I never got mine working perfectly :-(05:36
SuseUXui, graveman, gnomebaker05:36
r0xoRTylerDurden, you're assuming i was "on you" in the first place... you were claiming that it "must be a linux error" and i was pointing out that it probably wasn't05:36
colin__Ok, I am completely confused about all of these commands, where do I enter them?05:36
r0xoRtada... no animosity intended05:36
Strike4ceYou're using it now?05:36
tritiumngmlinux_, you need to read the last line, starting with the word "Try"05:36
joe_colin__,  in the termina;05:37
joe_terminal05:37
joe_sorry05:37
ngmlinux_tritium i did the -f and you asked me why?05:37
tritiumngmlinux_, read it carefully05:37
ngmlinux_so I did it again without the -f tritium05:37
ngmlinux_okay05:37
hyphenatedStrike4ce: hmm? dual-boot dell laptop with ubuntu and ati? yes, but not specifically 128MB graphics05:37
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tritiumngmlinux_, "with no packages" <--05:37
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TylerDurdenSuseUX, im in there, i see theres a file called uninstall, how do i use it though?05:37
Strike4cewhat did you do to get it working?05:37
TokenBadin the weather applet that can put in panel05:37
TokenBadhow can get it to read F instead of C?05:37
r0xoRTylerDurden, ./uninstall05:37
TylerDurdentyping uninstall wont do anything05:37
TylerDurdenok05:37
naliothTokenBad: right click on it and go to prefs05:38
TylerDurdenit says no useable uninstall found05:38
Strike4cemine is a inspiron 860005:38
r0xoRTylerDurden, "dot slash"05:38
TokenBadit won't let me05:38
ngmlinux_tritium, ok i did "sudo apt-get -f install"05:38
TokenBadonly has 2 settings05:38
tritiumand?05:38
r0xoRTylerDurden, ./uninstall --help05:38
TokenBadlets me pick which location05:38
ngmlinux_tritium, that won't help though, becuase I get an error everytime i do that05:38
Strike4cehow do I uninstall a program?05:38
TylerDurdenCould not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.05:38
hyphenatedStrike4ce: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and some stressful times editing xorg.conf05:38
ngmlinux_tritium this time was no different05:38
TylerDurdenthat was with --help too05:38
naliothTokenBad: really? odd. you dont have tabs in the prefs?05:38
TokenBadwhat to show like icon, and temp and stuff05:38
r0xoRTylerDurden, is it executable?05:38
kurtbecwhats the best way to list all the packages you have installed?05:38
TylerDurdenwhen i ls it just says shows uninstall in green05:39
Strike4cehyphenated, do that in the terminal?05:39
r0xoRk then it's executable05:39
hyphenatedStrike4ce: but I only got 2D accelleration. couldn't make 3D work :-(05:39
naliothTokenBad: yes click on temp and change the units05:39
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r0xoRTylerDurden, i dunno mang :) you're on your own i think05:39
aztektumTyler, check out Epics forums05:39
r0xoRTylerDurden, when all else fails RTF README file05:39
hyphenatedStrike4ce: so it's no better than the default unaccelerated driver. yes, in a terminal, with 'sudo' before the apt-get05:39
ngmlinux_tritium, http://pastebin.com/38978205:39
tritiumngmlinux_, what's requiring you to have libswt3.1-gtk-jni ?05:39
r0xoRTylerDurden, and when that fails... call the support people05:39
r0xoRTylerDurden, and when that fails check the forums05:39
TokenBadit will not let me05:39
kevogodUT2004 works for me.05:39
TylerDurden:( oficcial support.. come on would u wait a few days just for a stupid 1 line answer?05:40
r0xoRTylerDurden, and when that fails whack your head against your screen05:40
r0xoRTylerDurden, sure... why no?05:40
r0xoRTylerDurden, are you really that impatient?05:40
TylerDurdenbecause i bet it wont even work, then i gotta wait a few more days05:40
TylerDurdenyeah...05:40
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TylerDurdencomputers r my life, i dont go out05:40
Strike4ceIs this gonna screw things up will I be down until I get it straightned out?05:40
tritiumngmlinux_, those 2 packages have conflicts.  One is trying to overwrite files in another.05:40
SuseUXTylerDurden, just delete the ut2004 directory05:40
r0xoRTylerDurden, don't count your chickens before they hatch05:40
SuseUXthat simple05:40
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CurseLinuxso if I modify fstab file with the info for windows, but don't mount it and reboot, will it mount windows for me?05:40
tritiumngmlinux_, you can force it to overwrite05:40
TylerDurdenSuseUX, but thats not a healthy uninstall05:40
r0xoRTylerDurden, i've often received perfectly good support05:40
ngmlinux_tritium, how can i force an overwrite?05:40
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hyphenatedStrike4ce: there are ways to test it without being reckless.05:41
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SuseUXTylerDurden, yes it is, it's fine, not like Windows you know05:41
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TylerDurdenreally? cool05:41
ngmlinux_tritium, why are apt-get and synaptic having so much trouble resolving this?05:41
TylerDurdenhow can i search for files through terminal?05:41
Strike4cewell i know practically next to nothing about ubuntu05:41
r0xoRTylerDurden, locate05:41
TylerDurdenah05:41
r0xoRTylerDurden, or find05:41
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Strike4cefirst time here with linux05:41
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tritiumngmlinux_, I just told you05:41
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SuseUXTylerDurden, Linux doesn't have a registry so you cannot mess things up badly by just removing that directory05:41
naliothpeople never learn05:41
dumboi got through the first part of the install, with the cd in the drive.  when i take the cd out and restart, i get "operating system not found" message instaed of being able to finish the install.  anyone help?05:42
TylerDurdenwow nice SuseUX05:42
r0xoRTylerDurden, find $PWD -name \*thing\* -print05:42
hyphenatedStrike4ce: ok. it's one of the areas that doesn't magically work, because of the restrictions imposed around the drivers05:42
TylerDurdenwhats pwd do?05:42
TylerDurdenand the $05:42
r0xoRdumbo, uhh... you "take it out" shouldn't it eject automatically for you?05:42
Strike4ceso whats gonna happen If I run it thru terminal now?05:42
r0xoRdumbo, did you install grub into the MBR?05:42
hyphenatedStrike4ce: it'll install the driver, but not use it05:42
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ngmlinux_tritium you said force it but you didn't say how05:43
hyphenatedStrike4ce: sorry, no private messages please05:43
r0xoRTylerDurden, try it... run "pwd" in a terminal05:43
Strike4ceso really i dont need it?05:43
Strike4ceok05:43
zexr0Do you know any website that would help people switching from windows to ubuntu ?05:43
naliothngmlinux_: what are you forcing?05:43
r0xoRTylerDurden, then the equivalent is try running "echo $PWD" in a terminal05:43
dumboi believe grub was installed.  i saw it go by, do i need to explicitly install it?05:43
naliothubotu: tell zexr0 about equivalents05:43
ngmlinux_nalioth, an overwrite05:43
bimberis/ print//05:43
r0xoRTylerDurden, pwd is the program $PWD is the environment variable05:43
TylerDurdenit doesnt do anything r0xoR05:43
r0xoRTylerDurden, mmmm05:43
TylerDurdenjust a blank space05:43
r0xoR...05:43
TylerDurdenecho $pwd that is05:43
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naliothngmlinux_: dpkg -i --force-overwrite file.deb     <<< this may wreck your box05:44
TylerDurdenpwd gives me the name of the dir im in05:44
r0xoRTylerDurden, that's because you did it wrong05:44
bimberiTylerDurden: $PWD (case sensitive)05:44
r0xoRTylerDurden, echo $pwd and echo $PWD are not the same thing05:44
tritiumngmlinux_, you'll need to use dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libswt3.1-gtk-java_3.1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb --force-overwrite05:44
TylerDurdendoh!05:44
tritiumand yes, it can be dangerous05:44
TylerDurdenkeep forgetting that05:44
satafterhI have read alot of differant opinions on what kernel to use with AMD athlon xp, does any one know for sure?05:44
erickbimberi yes its case sensitive05:44
r0xoRsatafterh, uhhh... how bout the linux kernel?05:44
TylerDurdendoes anyone know how updates Linux for Dummies 6th edition is?05:45
r0xoRsatafterh, probably a custom compiled kernel would be best05:45
TylerDurdenupdated*05:45
bimberierick: yes, i was saying so05:45
r0xoRTylerDurden, uhhh... bad?05:45
TylerDurden=/05:45
r0xoRTylerDurden, why buy the book when you can get the same information online?05:45
tritiumcustom-compiled kernels are rarely needed on ubuntu05:45
tritiumplease don't advise custom-compiled kernels05:45
r0xoRtritium, mmm... but for specific processor support...05:45
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tritiumno need05:45
TylerDurdenr0xoR,  its easier when im in the toilet or dont feel like starting at the screen and switching screens05:45
TylerDurdenalso, how would i get it online?05:45
r0xoRhahah... ok05:45
TylerDurdendont say google if u say i can get it online give me a direct link05:46
aztektumHe didn't mean the actual book05:46
r0xoRTylerDurden, google05:46
tritiumsatafterh, linux-image-k705:46
satafterhwould 686 or k7 be better?05:46
TylerDurdenthanks r0xoR05:46
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r0xoRnp :P05:46
ngmlinux_tritium, what makes you think that will work without errors05:46
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ngmlinux_tritium, hold on, i'll try but my faith does not lie in linux05:46
tritiumngmlinux_, I read your pastebin link05:46
erickrecompiling kernel in ubuntu is so hard its need many dependency, you need to install all dependency05:46
tritiumsatafterh, k705:46
r0xoRTylerDurden, http://www.justlinux.com/ and http://tldp.org/ have all the answers you need05:47
hyphenatederick: sudo apt-get build-dep foo?05:47
TylerDurdenim looking for stuff for dummies cuz im a dummy05:47
r0xoRTylerDurden, if you wanna take something to the toilet then print out an article and bring it with you05:47
tritiumerick, it's fairly easy with kernel-package, but usually unnecessary05:47
r0xoRTylerDurden, yes you are :)05:47
TylerDurdeni read the first few pages in preview mode and it seemed really good05:47
Strike4ceok I have dcom98.exe installed how do I get wine to Download IE6?05:47
r0xoRTylerDurden, well man, go check the reviews on amazon05:47
r0xoRTylerDurden, i'm sure it's fine... the only way to find out is buy it05:47
TylerDurdenthats.. where i did lol05:47
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r0xoRTylerDurden, still... i say don't worry05:47
zexr0nalioth that's a pretty amasing list that you have there :) Thanks a lot :)05:48
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r0xoRTylerDurden, see my PM window05:48
ngmlinux_tritium, ok now we're getting somewhere http://pastebin.com/38978305:48
uican burn MPG files to a DVD so that you can play your movies on DVD player?05:48
TylerDurdeni returned a reply lol05:48
hyphenatedStrike4ce: dare I ask why you'd want DCOM or IE installed on a linux box?05:48
ngmlinux_tritium, is this the error we want?05:48
kevogodhyphenated, Web development05:48
tritiumngmlinux_, sorry, put the --force-overwrite before the path/to/file05:48
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ngmlinux_tritium, ok05:49
uican burn MPG files to a DVD so that you can play your movies on DVD player? just tell me if tis possible05:49
satafterhis the command apt-get kernel-k7?05:49
orkoI want to replace a driver module on the installer cd (aacraid.ko), where abouts would this module live on the cd?05:49
tritiumui, don't repeat please05:49
naliothzexr0: list?05:49
Strike4ceI need to use IE for onething and one thing only  an emulator that uses Microsoft virtual machine.  Firefox will not run it05:49
naliothui: it is possible. transcode is what you want05:50
uitritium its diferent05:50
erickhyphenated: should i run this cmd sudo apt-get build-dep including foo or packages name05:50
pupilwhat kernel headers are needed for vmware?05:50
uiok05:50
hyphenatedStrike4ce: well, you could invest in crossover office, which supposedly works05:50
ngmlinux_tritium, i guess linux isn't so bad afterall, here's the paste http://pastebin.com/38978705:50
uinalioth, is there a program or something?05:50
tritiumui, barely, dude ;)05:50
dooglusui: my DVD player will play divx data dvds - no need to convert to mpeg.  I guess it depends on the dvd player.  mine's a $20 chinese player05:50
hyphenatederick: instead of "foo" put in the name of the package you want to build05:51
naliothui: transcode is what you want05:51
Strike4cewine will do it right?05:51
dumbodoes anyone know if its possible for an HP minitower to 'force' only a certain OS to be used?05:51
duncanmhmm05:51
tritiumngmlinux_, dpkg --configure --pending please05:51
Casheldooglus, mine wont... not my standalone dvd player... what brand is yours?05:51
duncanmi just did an upgrade from hoary to breezy05:51
duncanmall of my python packages are left unconfigured05:51
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duncanmupdate-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/CORBA.Python2.4 corrupt: missing newline after manflag05:52
ngmlinux_tritium, hmmm for some reason that command did not give any errors05:52
Strike4cehyphenated, does it work on a dual boot system crossover?05:52
duncanmdpkg: error processing python2.4-pyorbit (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 205:52
duncanmany idea how to fix that?05:52
satafterhany one know the apt command to get k7 kernel05:52
tritiumngmlinux_, okay, now try sudo apt-get -f install05:52
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ngmlinux_tritium, ok hold on...05:52
ngmlinux_tritium, no errors05:52
Cashelduncanm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure05:52
Cashel <package>  ... same error?05:52
seethrutyler: hmm your xorg.conf, have you disabled GLCore and DRI?05:53
SuseUXsatafterh, just use synaptic and sarch kernel05:53
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ngmlinux_tritium, i'm impressed05:53
Cashelerrrr n/m the return there...05:53
SuseUXsearch*05:53
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tritiumngmlinux_, okay, now try to install the linux-headers-`uname -r` package please05:53
ngmlinux_tritium, just not a big fan of having to jump through hoops to get things done in breezy05:53
navyndoes anybody have any backports sources in breezy that work?05:53
ngmlinux_tritium, ok05:53
tritiumngmlinux_, normally you don't have to jump through hoops.  Evidently you installed something that's a bit broken05:53
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joe_Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied05:53
joe_, can anyone tell me what this line means?05:53
tritiumnot yet, navyn05:53
hyphenatedStrike4ce: no idea. and it's not free, so if it interests you, call the guys who make it and ask05:53
seethruTylerDurden: in your xorg.conf, have you disabled GLCore and dri?05:54
duncanmtritium: any ideas?05:54
satafterhi have had very good installing kernels with install manager,05:54
TylerDurdenuhh let me check seethru05:54
tritiumduncanm, sorry, about what?05:54
ngmlinux_tritium, something related to eclipse I believe05:54
SuseUXjoe_, try google05:54
naliothsatafterh: use synaptic05:54
ngmlinux_tritium, i reported the bug, they said it was fixed, but it wasn't05:54
tritiumngmlinux_, I see...05:54
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tritiumngmlinux_, did the headers install now?05:54
ngmlinux_tritium, looks like it05:54
tritiumgood deal05:55
ngmlinux_tritium, let me just check the directory05:55
erick linux-source-2.6.12 guys Im installing this kernel and gets lots of error when I issue the cmd make xconfig05:55
ngmlinux_looks like I'm back in bussiness over here05:55
joe_mkay thanks05:55
tritiumngmlinux_, :)05:55
Pickle_Weaseli don't get sound in flash, i did when i first installed, but i no longer do, i tried the "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1" fix, and it didn't help05:55
TylerDurdenseethru, i have Load"GLcore" and same with dri05:55
duncanmtritium: update-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/xmlproc_parse corrupt: missing newline after manflag05:55
r0xoRtritium, how can i compile my own kernel in ubuntu?05:55
ngmlinux_tritium, thanks i was on an important project, i though this would take longer to resolve05:55
SuseUXjoe_, you'll get it from the kernel mailing lists05:55
tritiumr0xoR, it's best to use kernel-package05:55
duncanmtritium: i upgraded from hoary -> breezy, everything is happy except for the python stuff05:55
r0xoRtritium, i know you don't want me to recomment it to others and i won't but how can I do it?05:55
tritiumngmlinux_, you're welcome :)05:56
ngmlinux_tritium, you know your ***05:56
seethruTylerDurden: you should try disabling them, they aren't needed with glx05:56
r0xoRtritium, uhh... is that the same as the kernel source?05:56
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TylerDurdenjust delete them seethru ?05:56
tritiumr0xoR, no, it's software to help you build kernel .deb packages for installation05:56
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tritiumngmlinux_, thanks :)05:56
seethruTylerDurden: comment them out, put a # at the start of the line05:56
r0xoRhmmm05:56
tritiumduncanm, sorry, getting overwhelmed here05:56
duncanmyeah05:56
r0xoRtritium, so how would i compile one from source...05:56
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r0xoRtritium, whether it's a good idea or not :P05:56
tritiumr0xoR, install kernel-package, and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package to learn how to build kernels the debian/ubuntu wya05:57
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TylerDurdenok done seethru05:57
tritiumit's hard to describe briefly over IRC05:57
axeusHm. I've been attempting to get the 855resolution patch to work with my i810 chipset (Inspiron 700m). Most of the posts I've found in the Ubuntu forums just say to download and install the debian package. Which I did, and I configured /etc/default/855resolution to the proper mode. I believe they left out that you have to add a modeline. I've tried several modelines with no luck. It's still going to 1024x768.05:57
duncanmhow can i force redownload of a package?05:57
seethruTylerDurden: also, I'm noticing a line in your xorg.conf you don't need05:57
tritiumduncanm, --reinstall05:57
TylerDurdenhow.. do u "notice" that05:57
seethruon the forums05:57
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TylerDurdeni didnt post it..05:57
seethruunder your thread "Performance"05:57
TylerDurdenit might of been old from my ati05:57
TylerDurdenlet me pastebin my currentone05:58
bimberiubotu tell r0xoR about kernelcompile05:58
seethruok05:58
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navynwhere can i find the win32codecs?  I don't see that in breezy05:58
TylerDurdenseethru, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/298305:58
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bimberitritium: :)05:59
tritium:)05:59
UdontKnowokay, can you guys running LINUX send the output of this to evaldo@gardenali.biz (I am doing some statistical analysis on the randomness of the linux urandom dev): dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1k count=64 conv=notrunc of=randomfile05:59
bimberiubotu tell navyn about w32codecs05:59
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p3r4m3rcould someone suggest a good media player05:59
TylerDurdenubotu tell tylerdurden about w32codecs05:59
Jeromeetell me about w32codecs06:00
Jeromee;[06:00
tritiumgood night, ubuntites06:00
navynrythymbox06:00
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DrAbyssi think my cd-rom drive was f@#$%^ed.. nothing a hammer can't fix..06:00
axeusRawr @ crappy res.06:00
bimberiJeromee: try /msg ubotu w32codecs06:00
TylerDurdenuboto tell Jeromee about w32codecs06:00
satafterhapt-get install linux-k706:00
p3r4m3rcan rythmbox play movie files and music files?06:01
satafterhthats it l06:01
navynthanks ubotu!06:01
SuseUXp3r4m3r, it's a music player06:01
seethruTylerDurden: has your xorg.conf always lacked the BusID portion of your video card section?06:01
Jeromeethx06:01
satafterhit was any way not working now lol06:01
SuseUXrhythmbox06:01
joe_i have a question06:01
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TylerDurdeni got rid of it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because i dont know my current one and xserver wouldnt start with the default number06:01
p3r4m3rwell what can play movies06:01
joe_how do i change the frames per second?06:02
SuseUXp3r4m3r, totem and quiet a few others06:02
p3r4m3rthanx06:02
seethruTylerDurden: weird, ok. Try CS:S now that you've disabled GLCore and DRI06:02
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SuseUXp3r4m3r, totem can play both06:02
TylerDurdendo i need to restart the computer for the changes to take affect?06:02
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friedI'm having a terrible time installing 5.04 on an Athlon64 machine, it just locks up. I've been using the live CD so I wouldn't screw anything up. The live CD for breezy did the same thing.06:02
SuseUXTylerDurden, no06:02
seethruTylerDurden: nope just hit ctrl-alt-backspace06:03
colin__Why do I get this message when I try to use the apt-get command " Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)"06:03
SuseUXTylerDurden, the ONLY time you need to restart is if you install a new kernel06:03
seethruTylerDurden: if GDM doesn't start, login and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart06:03
cafuego_colin__: prefix the command with 'sudo'.06:03
TylerDurdenseethru, it doesnt, i tried it before06:03
TylerDurdenbut ok06:03
colin__Ok06:03
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SuseUXseethru, it's just gdm start06:04
navynp3r4m3r, mplayer also does movies06:04
FR500hello06:04
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seethruSuseUX: sometimes gdm doesn't shutdown all the way for me heh, so I always do restart06:04
FR500what program is used to make SVG files?06:04
colin__Now, when this package is on my "desktop" do I need adress that in the command....06:04
cafuego_FR500: inkscape06:04
FR500 cafuego_ thanks06:04
coleI got a question why do i have to mess with the setting to get my wifi internet to work?06:04
SuseUXseethru, killall gdm works :-)06:05
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seethruSuseUX: that too, but I kill two birds with one stone with restart :)06:05
dumboon a non dual boot install, is there any reason why i am geting an operating system not found error on restart with out the cd in?06:05
SuseUXtrue06:05
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joe_can someone message me about codecs pls06:06
wickedpuppydumbo, you installed breezy ?06:06
SuseUXdumbo, did you set it in the bios to boot from cd?06:06
joe_win32 codecs anyone?06:06
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SuseUXjoe_, mplayer website06:06
NoUse!tell joe about w32codecs06:07
wickedpuppygoogle has many sites on codec :P06:07
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pupilHow do I write this command properly ? sudo ./vmware-install.pl -cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.406:07
CurseLinuxcan somebody tell me how to change the default of the grub loader to be windows rather than ubuntu?06:07
dumboi cant get to the bios.. i got through the first part of the install, the part form the cd.  then it asks me to restart without the cd in, and when i do, i get a 'opeerating system not found' instead of ubuntu finishing the install06:07
joe_didn't work nouse06:07
Cole_lolHow can i get it set were i dont have to change my network to the loopback then back to eth0 to get my wifi card working?06:07
wickedpuppydumbo, eh ah you installed wrongly ... thats the only thing i can see ...06:07
CurseLinuxdumbo are you dual booting?06:08
SuseUXdumbo, sounds like the bios is set to cd, thats one of the things that couses that error06:08
wickedpuppySuseUX, he can't get to bios ... and no he isn't dual booting06:08
SuseUXjoe_, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html06:08
dumbonot dual booting... the machine is an old HP minitower that i got from my parents after etting them up on a new machine.  instead of an option to get to bios, i just see an HP screen, then the os not found msg...06:08
navynjoe_, http://tinyurl.com/87ofx06:08
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navynubotu hooked me up a few min ago06:09
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, navyn06:09
joe_ok, so it's looking like i need to start over with my mplayer.06:09
joe_how do i uninstall it?06:09
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Cashelrehowdies06:09
dumbois there a possibility that im missing something from the initiall install?  first time installing, so its very possible06:09
bimberiCurseLinux: Change the "default" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst to the line for windows (typically 4 but count the non-commented title lines starting from 0)06:09
SuseUXjoe_, why mplayer?06:09
wickedpuppypossible06:09
joe_got another player in mi\nd?06:09
orkohow do you list files in a deb pkg, without installing?06:09
CashelYou know.. I remember someone in here saying how different the new gnome looks... I still havent seen it....06:09
calcorko: apt-file06:09
CurseLinuxthanx bimb06:10
joe_my xine nor my realplayer are not working either06:10
colin__If the application I want to install is on the desktop would I say  "sudo apt-get install /home/colin/desktop/filename ?"06:10
bimberiCurseLinux: yw :)06:10
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n000bhi, sorry I'm kinda newbish.. but uh..06:10
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SuseUXwickedpuppy, many people forget to put the bios back to HD :-)06:10
n000bhow do you open up Binary?06:10
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n000bI downloaded a program and it's in binary06:10
calcorko: or if you have the actual deb on your system you can extract it to the current dir, doing dpkg -x foo.deb .06:10
TiMiDon000b chmod +x and then ./bin06:10
calcorko: that allows you to access the files without installing06:10
Lordphynany xfce users here? I'm trying to figure out how to get vnc working in xfce the same way it does in gnome?06:11
Casheln000b, whats the file extention? if its .tar.gz or tar.bz2 or some such, thats like zip .. and needs extracted...06:11
DrSpinhey all -- I've got a few videos that need a bit of editing -- what do you all recommend -- they are in AVI format taken from my digital camera06:11
n000bCashel: it's in Binary mode06:11
Cashelthen what TiMiDo  said06:11
DrSpinLordphyn: #xfce could help06:11
n000bit's tar.gz06:11
r0xoR1.6G!!! for a kernelcompile!!! wtf?06:11
r0xoRthat's retarded!06:11
Cashelahhh06:11
Cashelthats different then...06:12
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n000bbut06:12
Casheltar zxvf <file> to extract it06:12
LordphynDrSpin - hehe apparently they couldn't, I've tried06:12
n000bit has a file that's binary06:12
duncanmhmm, the upgrade worked, i think06:12
Cashelright..06:12
n000bthere's no ./configure or anything like that...06:12
Cashelright..06:12
n000bso?06:12
DrSpinLordphyn: it's all in your approach -- ask the right question and you will engage the person that has the answer06:12
SuseUXr0xoR, now you know thats wrong :-)06:12
Casheltar zxvf <filename> to extract, then see what files it gives you...06:12
bimberiorko: dpkg -c file.deb06:12
joe_SuseUX, ok i have the codecs dled to my desktop, but i need to have them installed in to this directory /usr/local/lib/codecs. how do i do that?06:12
navynwhat does it mean if the ubuntu HAL device manager can detect my usb scanner, but sane cannot?06:12
DrSpinLordphyn: unfortunately I don't know how to help you --06:13
LordphynDrSpin - no, everyone's been polite and trying to answer, they just havent been able to do it ;)06:13
n000bPing reply from robot: ? second(s)06:13
n000berm, wrong paste06:13
naliothubotu: tell joe_ about cli06:13
n000bgzip: stdin: not in gzip format06:13
DrSpinanyne have an idea for video editing software?06:13
naliothjoe_: we have an easier way to do the codecs06:13
navynkino06:13
naliothDrSpin: filmgimp06:14
DrSpincinelerra is an option but can't get it to compile -- spent hours compliing individual dependencies06:14
DrSpinthe configure finished but the make fails06:14
navynDrSpin, doesn't cinelerra require ungodly system specs06:14
DrSpinnalioth: is it in the repos by chance06:14
DrSpin?06:14
naliothfilmgimp is now known as cinepaint06:14
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joe_nalioth, how is that?06:14
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TylerDurdenseethru, i cant really get css to work now06:14
DrSpinnavyn: [ideally]  I'd suppose06:14
joe_i'm much more confused now06:15
colin__If the application I want to install is on the desktop would I say  "sudo apt-get install /home/colin/desktop/filename ?"06:15
naliothand yes cinepaint is in the repos06:15
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TylerDurdenseethru, it kinda freezes in the loading screen06:15
naliothubotu: tell joe_ about w32codecs06:15
DrSpinthanks06:15
CurseLinuxokay i'm confused as to where i should modify /boot/grub/menu.lst06:15
CurseLinuxwhat do I change?06:15
joe_nalioth, i have the codecs but i need to have them sent to /usr/local/lib/codecs06:15
CashelCurseLinux, what are you trying to do?06:16
wickedpuppycolin__, no ... apt-get install will download and install at the same time06:16
naliothjoe_: read the cli info ubotu sent you. it will be info you'll need for the rest of your linux usage time06:16
CurseLinuxset windows as the default for grub06:16
PMantisHello! I just selected "Lock Version" in Synaptic to see what it did... now I regret. How can I undo?06:16
naliothPMantis: unlock it06:16
SuseUXlol06:16
wickedpuppycolin__, if you got .deb , use dpkg -i package.deb06:16
turner_anybody have a suggestion as to what client I should use to watch TV with my TV card with?06:16
turner_client/application06:16
seethruTylerDurden: every time? like before?06:16
naliothturner_: xawtv06:17
DrSpinxawTV requires a headache of configuration but GREAT usage06:17
colin__Wickedpuppy  what if it is .rpm?06:17
turner_can I just apt-get install xawtv?06:17
navynturner_, xawTV06:17
TylerDurdenseethru, no it worked before, i dont understand why it wont go past the loading screen now06:17
DrSpinhaven't used it in a while though06:17
naliothcolin__: you shouldn't use rpm06:17
CashelCurseLinux, message me real quick...06:17
wickedpuppycolin__, rpm is ah ... not in demand here ... :P06:17
bimberiCurseLinux: Near the top of the file "default     0"  - change the 0 to whatever windows is (typically 4)06:17
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colin__nalioth thanks06:17
colin__wickedpuppy thanks06:17
Cashelyeah.. I was gonna paste that, hehee06:17
PMantisnalioth, I selected everything in "Upgradeable"... can I get a list of packages that are locked?06:17
wickedpuppynp :P06:17
joe_nalioth, oh i see, cd /usr/local/lib/codecs and unpackeage there?06:17
turner_Hmm, it doesn't seem to be in ubutnu's apt database06:17
turner_cant find xawtv06:17
seethruTylerDurden: does the mouse come up?06:18
TylerDurdenyes and it moves, but it wont continue loading the rest of the menu06:18
r0xoRSuseUX, what do you mean?06:18
naliothjoe_: that is one way. there are commands to move the files from where they are, also06:18
helio7Does anyone know if there's a gnome-session file I can delete to clear a bug that's preventing gnome-session from loading the gnome-panel???06:18
r0xoRSuseUX, i knew it was wrong when i read it...06:18
CurseLinuxso how do i know what number windows is?06:18
bimberiturner_: it's in the "universe" repository06:18
r0xoRSuseUX, i haven't actually done it yet06:18
wickedpuppyturner_, enable universe and multiverse06:18
seethruTylerDurden: hmm that happens to me sometimes, but not every time..06:18
bimberiubotu tell turner_ about repositories06:18
r0xoRSuseUX, why tf would it be 1.6G ?06:18
joe_mv?06:18
DrSpincinepaint won't open the files -06:18
SuseUXjoe_, cd into the directory where you want to put the codecs?06:18
DrSpin*sigh*06:18
naliothjoe_: mv will indeed move em06:18
joe_ty06:18
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naliothjoe_: another name for 'mv' is 'delete'06:19
joe_i'll try it06:19
turner_ah, I just uncommented universe in sources.list06:19
turner_thanks, that hsould help06:19
TylerDurdeni tried twice seethru, while were on it, how can i "ctrl+alt+delete" out of it?06:19
joe_oh ic06:19
r0xoRCurseLinux, well you should have payed attention to that during the install06:19
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navynturner_, once you do that its there, i just checked06:19
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r0xoRCurseLinux, but if you need to find out you can use fdisk to pr int your partition table06:19
r0xoRCurseLinux, it'll be the one that says NTFS06:19
CurseLinuxwhat about fdisk -l?06:19
Laforge38Anyone use a Dell Inspiron 1150 and had to setup wireless?06:20
SuseUXr0xoR, the kernel source is not 1.6Gb06:20
navynturner_, there are alot of plugins for that too06:20
hsqrdstill with the sound issues - i have a little more info this time06:20
hsqrdanyone an expert with it?06:20
wickedpuppykernel source is somewhere like ... 180 mb06:20
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SuseUXindeed06:21
bimberiCurseLinux: count the lines in menu.lst that start with the word title (but not ones commented out with a #) starting from zero.  When you reach the title line for windows, that's the number you need for the default06:21
turner_thank yo06:21
turner_u06:21
CashelCurseLinux, maybe I'm wrong, but the first listed is 0, second 1 etc..06:21
Cashelerr yea06:21
r0xoRSuseUX, right so then why dot he docs say that it might be 1.6G06:21
seethruTylerDurden: alt-tab to P2P and hit stop06:21
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CurseLinuxthe line that says "other operating systems"06:22
CurseLinuxdoes that count?06:22
wickedpuppyr0xoR, which doc ?06:22
joe_SuseUX, here s line i can use help with sudo dpkg - i w32codecs.deb mv /usr/local/lib/codecs  , will this work?06:22
r0xoRthe wiki doc06:22
TylerDurdeni already closed p2p when i opened steam seethru but ok ill keep it open06:22
TylerDurdenlet me try again06:22
r0xoRhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto06:22
r0xoRthat doc06:22
CashelCurseLinux, ummm no06:22
bimberiCurseLinux: yes :)06:22
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Cashelyes?!?!?06:22
Cashelit has no root entry... ?06:22
r0xoRspeaking of which, those docs are NOT very well written06:22
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Laforge38Anyone use a Dell Inspiron 1150 and had to setup wireless? (sorry if i am spamming but not sure if anyone saw it before)06:23
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CurseLinuxIf you start from 0, it should count06:23
Cashelgood think linux is my default I guess, hehe...06:23
SuseUXjoe_, I would do, cd /usr/local/lib/codec06:23
logikal_ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the06:23
logikal_       Macromedia Flash Player installer.06:23
logikal_help ! :\06:23
naliothr0xoR: you can sign up for a wiki account and correct them06:23
helio7anyone know about GnomeUI-WARNING ?  gnome won't load for me06:23
naliothlogikal_: please dont paste06:23
logikal_please help me nalioth06:23
joe_SuseUX, the codecs i dled are on the desktop tho06:23
naliothlogikal_: use 686 kernel06:23
SuseUXjoe_, and then sudo tar -xjvf path/to/my/win32codecs.tar06:23
CurseLinuxokay I will restart now, if I'm back in a few minutes, I'll let you know which one it really is06:23
logikal_how do i do that?06:23
CurseLinuxthanx for the help06:23
bimberiCurseLinux: yw :)06:24
r0xoRnalioth, meh, that takes work06:24
naliothjoe_: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs<tab>06:24
r0xoRnalioth, and how can i correct them if i don't know what they mean?06:24
naliothr0xoR: then dont speak harshly of them06:24
r0xoRnalioth, ? what do you mean? why not?06:24
colin__What would be the best way to learn this system?06:24
r0xoRnalioth, that seems a bit facist06:24
naliothr0xoR: if you wont help the apparent fallacies, why talk nasty about them?06:25
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wickedpuppycolin__, which system ?? linux ?06:25
naliothcolin__: by using it06:25
Cashelcolin__, to learn linux you mean? Use it... install stuff from source, configure it as well as you can.. etc..06:25
colin__wickedpuppy yes06:25
SuseUXlol06:25
navyncolin__, www.ubuntuguide.org is a good place to start06:25
naliothnavyn: no it's not06:25
r0xoRnalioth, uhh, that logic doesn't really mean anything to me... i'll talk "nasty" about them because it's the truth06:25
kurtbecwhat do the letters ii and rc mean at the far left of dkpg -l?06:25
Cashellol06:25
naliothcolin__: stay away from ubuntuguide06:25
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colin__nalioth why?06:26
r0xoRnalioth, that the truth is ugly has nothing to do with my willingness to help at the moment06:26
naliothr0xoR: but the wiki is open to ANYONE to add to or change for the better06:26
navynnalioth, why is that?06:26
nalioth!ubuntuguide06:26
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.06:26
joe_nalioth, i found out why i can't get myvideo.06:26
naliothubotu: tell colin__ about equivalents06:26
r0xoRnalioth, but my original point still stands... if I can't even tell what it means and how to use it... then how am i supposed to "correct" it if I don't even know what is correct?06:26
navynnalioth, it still works for hoary doesn't it?06:26
joe_nalioth, i don't don't have a codecs foldeer in my /usr/local/lib direc06:27
naliothr0xoR: if you know how to use whatever software the 'badly written wiki' discusses, fix the wiki06:27
TylerDurdenseethru, i pmed you06:27
naliothnavyn: very early hoary (as in from the install cd and never upgraded)06:27
r0xoRnalioth, that's just the point06:27
r0xoRnalioth, i don't know how to use the proprietary ubuntu kernel build system06:27
delltonywhere can i get codecs to play wmv files in ubuntu i thought it was w32-codecs but i don't see it in breezy06:27
r0xoRnalioth, and that is precisely the part which is badly written06:27
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naliothjoe_: if you install the deb, using dpkg, you wont have a /usr/local/lib/codecs/06:28
calcr0xoR: isn't it just kernel-package?06:28
navynnalioth, i just checked the help on my breezy install, that is cool.  i didn't even know that was there06:28
naliothr0xoR: it is not proprietary06:28
r0xoRnalioth, you know what i mean though... "custom" "nonstandard" "ubuntu specific"06:28
naliothr0xoR: it is a standard debian method using ubuntu settings06:28
SuseUXoh, he has a deb package06:28
TylerDurdenr0xoR, check pm06:28
r0xoRnalioth, hmm... well i haven't used debian in like 5 years06:29
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naliothubotu: tell delltony about w32codecs06:29
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cafuego_r0xoR: If you can't even figure that out, why do you think you can build a working kernel?06:29
calchmm that page is for more than just building your own kernel its for rebuilding the ubuntu specific one06:29
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calcnalioth: its using dpkg-buildpackage so its not technically the way most people build debian kernels, but is still pretty easy to use06:29
Casheloh wow, yea the new helps more info than it was for sure.... nifty....  gj dev folks...06:30
navynhey guys how is it that the HAL device mgr can detect my scanner, yet it will not work ?06:30
calcbut still should be pretty simple to do06:30
naliothcalc: yes. ty.06:30
cafuego_navyn: is sane configured properly?06:30
navynit's installed, by way of apt-get.  it doesn't detect any scanners06:30
calcr0xoR: if you just want to build all of your own stuff then install kernel-package and use that, it makes debs and is very simple to use06:31
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cafuego_navyn: You'll probably need to configure it. the config file is /etc/sane*06:31
naliothr0xoR: or if you dont want standard debian pkgs, use checkinstall06:31
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calckernel-package is probably just as easy to use as checkinstall06:32
fooFighterhey guys, is there a command that i can do to check my disc for bad sectors?06:32
SuseUXnavyn, sudo sane-find-scanner06:32
r0xoRcalc, i know... but i wanna make my life hard :P06:32
fooFighterone that is easy to interpret06:32
calcyou just run make-kpkg --revision=foo binary06:32
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navyncafuego_, what can i use to edit it, it says it is not an editable file.  i am doing sudo gedit /etc/sane*06:32
r0xoRcalc, old ways die hard06:32
r0xoRcalc, i like "make menuconfig" and such06:32
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cafuego_navyn: it's probably a directory then. See what's in it.06:33
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starscallingbegs eretan to help on the first ep.. offers my firstborn06:33
calcr0xoR: well you still have to run make menuconfig before make-kpkg to setup the .config file itself06:33
dmacdonald111Hi all. I am currently having problems trying to get my web browser working. Anyone who can help?06:33
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calcmake-kpkg creates kernel image, source, headers, etc packages for you06:33
^Boyhenyohello all!!06:33
cafuego_r0xoR: There is nothing stopping uyou from running 'make menuconfog' and then 'make-kpkg'06:33
dougskodmacdonald111: what have u done so far?>06:33
calckernel-package is nearly as old as the kernel way ;)06:34
dougsko^Boyhenyo: hey man06:34
calci've been using it for over 7 years now06:34
fooFighteris there a command to check my harddrive for bad sectors that is easy to interpret?06:34
^Boyhenyohey man 2!!!06:34
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cafuego_Mind you, people get crusty, old and set in their ways at around 22 years of age.06:34
dmacdonald111dougsk: Well, everything was working fine (for several months), but now for some reason, I click on the icon, it starts to load and then just stops06:34
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calcfooFighter: badblocks?06:34
duncanmhmm06:35
duncanmis there a page that lists what's new in Breezy?06:35
navyncafuego_, okay i see in the directory are a ton of .conf files thats about all i see06:35
dougskook, say you use forefox, instead of clicking the icon, rub firefoxe from a terminal and see what it says06:35
cafuego_navyn: Then it's time to check the docs for sane and see how to customise it.06:35
dougsko*lol not rub, but type06:35
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SuseUXnavyn, did you try sudo sane-find-scanner06:35
calcfooFighter: also most hd makers have tools you can download off their site to test their drives06:35
r0xoRcafuego_, good :)06:36
colin__I hate to be a complete newb here but these commands are not working for me... I have tried both of the following and neither work.  "udo dpkg -i /home/colin/desktop/ package_yahoo .deb" and "sudo dpkg -i package_yahoo .deb"06:36
colin__I ahve also tried them without the "package" part06:36
dougskosorry, 6 beers into it and u cant type the same, go figure06:36
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calccolin__: did you actually put the spaces where you typed them above?06:36
naliothfooFighter: you want bad blocks or bad drive comonents?06:36
colin__Yes I copied those06:36
HedgeMageI'm having trouble watching a (US encoded) DVD.  Neither Totem nor xine works... I poked around in synaptic and it doesn't seem that libdvdcss is available... help?06:36
naliothcolin__: what are you trying to get done?06:36
calccolin__: there should be no space in the path and in the filename06:36
dmacdonald111dougsk: That's okay. lol. Anyhoo, I get something about failing to initialize libXt.so and libXext.so06:36
naliothubotu: tell HedgeMage about dvd06:36
navynit found something06:36
navyncafuego_, it found something06:37
calccolin__: eg dpkg -i /home/colin/desktop/package_yahoo.deb06:37
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cafuego_HedgeMage: install libdvdread3, check /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples. Run the script.06:37
joe_nalioth, isn't there a chmod command to unpackage a file?06:37
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HedgeMagenalioth: coming to my aid again <306:37
joe_nalioth, btw this file is atar file06:37
dougskoHedgeMage: enable 'universe' repositories06:37
naliothjoe_: you've lost me. chmod changes permissions06:37
joe_nalioth, btw this file is a tar file06:37
cafuego_navyn: Okay, now you're officially more experienced with sane than I am.06:37
HedgeMagedougsko: I did... still don't see it06:37
naliothjoe_: did you read the info ubotu sent you?06:37
joe_yes06:37
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navyncafuego_, crap06:37
cafuego_cafuego_: Nah, never.06:38
naliothubotu: tell HedgeMage about hoary-extras06:38
fooFighternalioth, my pc keeps restarting, and i just want to know if there is anything wrong with the current harddrive06:38
naliothfooFighter: first, check your memory modules. use memtest06:38
logikal_How do i run the ubuntu setup program from Konsole????06:38
shreevatsaIs ubotu a bot?06:38
cafuego_fooFighter: linux doesn't reboot when the disk is broken. It just keeps running.06:38
colin__It says no such file or directory....I am pretty sure it is sitting right on ym desktop06:38
naliothshreevatsa: yes he is06:38
cafuego_!ubotu06:38
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:38
navyncafuego_, whenever i open xsane, it says no devices found06:38
calccolin__: linux is case sensitive, if its own your desktop it would be06:38
calccolin__: dpkg -i /home/colin/Desktop/package_yahoo.deb06:38
fooFighterso i may have another issue06:39
dougskodmacdonald111: well, that might be a good place to start, maybe search yr system for those files, if its a no go, id say the easiest solution would be 'apt-get remove --purge firefox', then just install it again06:39
calccolin__: unless the package has uppercase chars in it too06:39
fooFighteri dont think its the memory, but i guess it could be, either that or the videocard overheating, which doesnt really seem possible06:39
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naliothfooFighter: start with a memory check06:39
dmacdonald111dougsk: Thanks. I'll give that a go :)06:39
cafuego_fooFighter: is the cpu fab working?06:39
cafuego_fan06:39
naliothfooFighter: i believe you have memtest available from your grub menu06:39
colin__ cannot access archive: No such file or directory, and no it is completely lower case yahoo....06:40
calccolin__: best bet then would be to type dpkg -i ~/Desktop/(tab complete the filename)06:40
naliothcolin__: where did you get the file?06:40
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naliothubotu: tell colin__ about cli06:41
calccolin__: tab complete means to hit tab and type a letter to differentiate what you see06:41
colin__From yahoo06:41
ColonelKernelgentoo06:41
calchmm actually ~ won't work06:41
naliothcolin__: gaim will allow you to use yahoo messenger, if thats what you are after06:41
calcsince you have to sudo install and then ~ won't be the same home dir06:41
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naliothcolin__: it is not advised to use non-ubuntu programs06:42
colin__Well I just want to learn how to install programs etc....I figured this would be a good start because I completely understand what I want to do but have no idea what I am doing06:42
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colin__Well let me ask this, is this a good Linux to start with?06:42
naliothcolin__: yes, but learning by installing a non-ubuntu program isnt good06:42
naliothcolin__: the best linux in the world06:42
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Strike4ceWhy does windows detect and try to check when I start up?06:42
Geno__Hello everyone06:43
dougskocolin__: yr in good hands dude06:43
Strike4ceI have to hit a key for it to cancel06:43
colin__Heh, its getting a little chilly without Mr. Gates here...lol06:43
Strike4cewhat will it do if I just let it run will it delete ubuntu?06:43
Geno__Does Ubuntu have a function that automatically finds package dependancies?06:43
luihello people06:43
Cole_lolwere can i get screensavers at?06:44
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luihere I am with my questions again...06:44
dougskoGeno__: apt-get will install everything with ease and grace06:44
axeusHmm. 855resolution.deb install isn't running at boot for some reason.06:44
calcGeno__: all package managers (dpkg is not one) will do that for you06:44
Geno__Ok good,  I wondered if it was only for somes distros06:44
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axeusIt placed a script in /etc/init.d, and a bunch of Symlink's in the /etc/rcXX.d directories.06:44
calcGeno__: example, apt-get, dselect, aptitude, synaptic06:44
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axeusI don't see what the problem is here.06:45
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Geno__Thanks.06:45
calcGeno__: debian based distros had package resolution before rpm ones did06:45
dmlinuxHow do i get to the Synaptics touchpad configuration tool?06:45
Strike4ceis kubuntu better than ubuntu?06:45
calcGeno__: now pretty much all major distros do06:45
luiquestion: is there a way to bypass that nvidia picture at boot after the driver install ?06:45
HrdwrBobStrike4ce: no06:45
dougskoGeno__: synaptic is a front end to apt, its real easy to use06:45
HrdwrBobStrike4ce: it's simply KDE instead of gnome06:45
calcStrike4ce: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different default desktop06:45
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ChessmanHi all, I've just loaded Ubuntu for the first time. I've played with Gentoo and Mandrake and am looking to switch gears just a bit.06:45
Strike4cewhats kde?06:45
HrdwrBobStrike4ce: I would recommend just ubuntu06:45
Geno__Strike4ce: if you want KDE and no gnome, maybe06:45
calcStrike4ce: kde.org06:45
axeusQuestion: Why did 855resolution install Symlinks in many different runlevels? For example S symlinks in rc2.d/rc3.d/rc4.d/etc... And K symlinks in rc0.d/rc1.d.06:46
ChessmanSo far, I've been pretty impressed.06:46
dmacdonald111dougsk: I've looked for the files, and instead of, for example, libXt.so I have libXt.so.6  I have tried what you have suggested, but still no luck.06:46
Geno__Strike4ce: if you want KDE you can get it with the default Ubuntu install06:46
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fooFighterChessman, yes its quite nice06:46
fooFighterwhich version are you using?06:46
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Strike4cehow do i remove mirc for windows on ubuntu?06:46
dougskodmacdonald111: hmmm...06:46
calcaxeus: runlevels 2/3/4/5 are normal running runlevels, 0,1,6 are stopping runlevels06:46
ChessmanfooFighter, The "preview." :-)06:46
axeuscalc: Thanks. :)06:46
naliothStrike4ce: say that again?06:47
dmacdonald111dougsk: I did have this problem once before, but a reboot sorted it out last time. Hasn't worked this time.06:47
dumboanyone have any idea why the ubuntu installation can see my hd, but when i restart, the bios doesnt see it...  i can put the cd in and the intallation can recognize my HD, but if i go into bios beore the instalation begins, it doesnt recognize my hd06:47
new2linuxwith a server install of ubunt.. does anyone know what packages i need for just xfce406:47
calcaxeus: man init explains more about runlevels06:47
Geno__3 days to Breezy! :) Can't wait 'till most of the bugs are out, one made the startup impossible!06:47
axeuscalc: When Ubuntu boots, it goes through runlevel 2 as root, right?06:47
Strike4cei have wine and I downloaded mirc it works but how do i remove it?06:47
new2linuxive done apt-get install xfce406:47
calcaxeus: everything in init scripts runs as root yes06:47
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ChessmanfooFighter, 5.10. Took me a second to find the version.06:47
new2linuxgotten that all done06:47
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new2linuxbut im not aware what package i need to install on top of that06:48
Strike4ceis breezy free?06:48
calcStrike4ce: yes06:48
ChessmanStrike4ce, Yes.06:48
rendiguys anyone know how to send a msg to m$ client06:48
coobraopensource <306:48
ChessmanStrike4ce, Sorry mt.06:48
rendii'm use hoary06:48
calcrendi: msn or what?06:48
duncanmhmm06:48
duncanmthe version of SCIM on Breezy is kinda old, no?06:48
rendimessenge06:49
dougskodmacdonald111: honestly i dont know, some suggestions to mess around with though: take a look at all the config files, try renaming the offending files, try rebooting (the answer to 90% of all life's problems, lol)06:49
coobragaim  = msn client06:49
SuseUXStrike4ce, look in the .wine directory and look for a uninstall like Windows, or just delete the directory name of the program06:49
rendilike net send06:49
rendion LAN06:49
calcrendi: samba supports that as far as i know06:49
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luinobody knows if is there a way to bypass that nvidia picture at boot after the driver install ?06:49
coobraohh06:49
Geno__aMSN works like a charm even if it's not what you want06:49
wastrelhi06:49
coobrasamba is cool06:49
rendiuse samba ?06:49
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wastreli'm trying to plug my laptop into an external monitor06:49
dmacdonald111okay. Thank you dougsk. I shall give it a go.06:49
Strike4cehow do I get to wine directory?06:49
rendii have client which use xp06:49
wastrelwhen i'm in the console mode i can switch between the external and the internal monitor06:49
calcrendi: yes, it has full net command stuff along with smb filesystem support and active directory authentication that you can setup among other things06:50
wastrelbut once X starts only the laptop display works06:50
Cole_lolhow do i swith to kde from gnome06:50
dumboanyone have any ideas how to get bios to recognize my HD after part one of the installation06:50
SuseUXlui, http://ubuntuguide.org/#disablenvidialogo06:50
wastrelanyone know what's going on?06:50
Strike4cewhy does windows try to check everytime I start it on dual boot system?06:50
dougskodmacdonald111: also, another really awesome room to ask for help in is #kanotix, kanotix is another debian based system, i wouldnt say u use ubuntu, but the people there r incredible06:50
crimsunduncanm: yep, we'll sync when dapper opens.06:50
wastreli'm thinking maybe X is trying to use dual monitors?06:50
luiSuseUX, thanks06:50
duncanmcrimsun: dapper is after breezy?06:50
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crimsunduncanm: yes06:51
n0odl3update to breezy successful!! yeaaaah!06:51
dmacdonald111hehe. okay. Thanks for that dougsk :)06:51
rendiic06:51
rendii'll try now06:51
Strike4ceit wll delete ubuntu if I let it go instead of canceling06:51
naliothduncanm: dapper drake, the most handsome duck in the world06:51
rendibtw thanks for info06:51
duncanmcrimsun: so is there a way to get CJK input working on breezy?06:51
joe_SuseUX, i tried taht sudo tar -x*** and it give me this is not a bzip file06:51
n0odl3does anyone know what this error means?06:51
calcrendi: you may have to setup samba depending on how your windows network has been configured06:51
crimsunduncanm: look on the wiki/forum06:51
n0odl3wrong fs type06:51
naliothjoe_: tar xvjf file.bz206:51
n0odl3bad option06:51
n0odl3bad superblock on /dev/hdd06:52
naliothjoe_: read the cli info ubotu sent you06:52
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n0odl3missing codepage or other error06:52
n0odl3?06:52
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Strike4ceanyone help me?06:52
n0odl3this happens everytime i try to open a certain cd a friend burned for me06:52
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dougskoStrike4ce: what exactly is the situation?06:53
n0odl3at the end it says "could not execute pmount?06:53
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SuseUXStrike4ce, I just told you how06:53
max_went offline for a bit, but for the guy wanting xfce: apt-get install xfce4-desktop06:53
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eXcentraHow do I make it so that when I put headphones into the headphone jack, the sound only comes out in the headphones?06:53
dmlinuxHow do i get to the Synaptics touchpad configuration tool?06:53
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joe_/usr/local/lib/codecs/w32codecs_1%3a20050216-0.0_i386.deb06:53
joe_this is what i'm trying to untar06:53
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n0odl3does this mean the cd is bad?06:53
Strike4cewhen i boot to windows xp it trys to check the drive and scan it I cancel it.  If I allowed it to go on it would delete the partition of ubuntu right?06:54
SuseUXStrike4ce, no06:54
naliothjoe_: you dont untar that. you "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb06:54
wastrelDoes ubuntu automatically detect and try to configure dual monitor setups?06:54
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kikinovakHi. I06:54
joe_nalioth, yea i did that but it desn't seem to work06:54
dougskoStrike4ce: i dont think so, when u boot up, dont u get a grub loader?06:54
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luiStrike4ce, no at all man!06:54
SuseUXStrike4ce, it just does a filesystem check06:54
joe_nalioth, when i browse to taht directory to look for any files there are none there06:55
DansFloydhow do i install Skype... i get errors saing i need libqt3c102-mt, but when i install it it says it was replaced with something else... so now its not letting me install skype06:55
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kikinovak(sorry) Hi,I'm writing a short piece on Ubuntu. Anyone knows when the _first_ Ubuntu release was published? Was that 4.04?06:55
SuseUXbut deleting WIndows is not all bad :-)06:55
Strike4ceok last time id deleted it but it wasnt fully installed I backed out06:55
maximausquickie question, not really Ubuntu: I can't log into my new wireless router (wired atm), the page came up once, then hung, does the same thing in XP...bad router?06:55
joe_strike ace are you trying to delet your ubuntu partition?06:55
naliothjoe_: when you entered "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb" did the terminal say anything about an error?06:55
Strike4ceno06:55
joe_no06:55
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TodFlanderskikinovak I believe 4.04 the warty warthog was the 1st06:56
maximauskikinovak, google is your friend and the first version was called Warty warthog06:56
dougskoyeah it was warty06:56
propagandhi The first public release of Ubuntu was the Ubuntu 4.10 Preview (codenamed "the Warty Warthog", or just "Warty").06:56
Strike4cewhats wrong with kubuntu?06:56
kevogodIt was actually 4.10.06:56
kevogoderr sorry06:56
kikinovakTodFlanders: thanks very much06:56
maximausStrike4ce, the color bloo :P06:56
kevogodStrike4ce, Nothing.06:56
kikinovakmaximaus: thanks for the superfluous lesson.06:56
dougskocame out, oct. 4th06:57
dougskono, sorry, oct. '0406:57
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luiStrike4ce, I think nothing, but Ubuntu was designed with gnome in mind06:57
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Strike4ceit reminds you of microsoft right the color lol?06:57
kevogodKubuntu is a fork.06:57
kevogodsort of06:58
joe_nalioth, when i use taht command it unpacks and then says setting up win32codecs and then get s me back to prompt06:58
crimsunno it's not.06:58
naliothjoe_: then you've installed it correctly06:58
propagandhimaybe ubuntu was designed with gnome in mind, but the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the window manager and some artwork06:58
dougskokikinovak: who r u writing a piece for? (just curious)06:58
crimsunKubuntu is a community-based project based on Ubuntu. Its packages are in the Ubuntu repository.06:58
dmlinuxWhenever i do synclient -h it says NO TOURCHPAD FOUND, but when i dmesg i get [4294693.369000]  input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint on isa0060/serio1 Can anyone help me or give me a link to fix this06:58
maximaustbh, I'm really glad that Kubuntu exist, but it's not for me.06:58
joe_nalioth, yet i still get no video output06:58
TodFlanderssorta funny question, I want to try out kde again can I just install kbuntu desktop on top of ubuntu breezy?06:58
kevogodcrimsun, Yes, but it still is considered an entirely different distribution.06:58
maximausTodFlanders, yup06:58
calchmm 5.10 images aren't cut yet06:58
Strike4cehow do I uninstall ubuntu?06:58
kevogodEven though it really isn't.06:58
naliothjoe_: what video are you trying to play (the filetype)?06:58
luipropagandhi, that's it06:58
crimsunkevogod: for people who wish to consider it thus, perhaps.06:58
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joe_nalioth, a .wmv file06:59
dougskomaximaus: def. the more choices, the better06:59
ZeZudamn this chan is pretty big06:59
propagandhiits a matter of personal preference which way you go - kde, gnome or other06:59
Strike4ceI can just go into windows and delete the partition right?06:59
naliothjoe_: i'm afraid you are out of luck. some wmvs wont play no matter what you do06:59
orkodo u need to do any symlinking to build a kernel from source (linux-source and linux-headers are installed.. )06:59
luiStrike4ce, why in the world you want to do that to you r pc?06:59
joe_well i tried doing a .avi as well06:59
naliothStrike4ce: yes06:59
joe_no luck06:59
dmlinuxWhenever i do synclient -h it says NO TOURCHPAD FOUND, but when i dmesg i get [4294693.369000]  input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint on isa0060/serio1 Can anyone help me or give me a link to fix this06:59
joe_just audio06:59
SuseUXxine usually plays them better, gstreamer dont07:00
Strike4ceim going to install kubuntu07:00
maximausStrike4ce, windows is in a state of denial and won't even see the partition07:00
crimsunorko: you need linux-tree-2.6.10 (or -2.6.12 in Breezy) and build-essential.07:00
naliothjoe_: avis are container files and can contain many things07:00
SuseUXsame with .mov07:00
Strike4ceyes it sees it but says unkown07:00
ZeZui'm have some trouble w/ getting fglrx drivers working in ubuntu, and the www page says to try reinstalling but apt-get isn't finding the package (i've tried typing it quirte a few diff. ways)07:00
maximausStrike4ce, you can have both installed, just open up synaaptic and install it07:00
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joe_SuseUX, i get a green screen when i try xine07:00
luiStrike4ce, you don't need to uninstall kubuntu to do that07:00
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Strike4ceok how do I install kubuntu now?07:00
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crimsuninstall kubuntu-desktop07:01
naliothStrike4ce: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:01
TodFlandersstrike4ce, search synaptic for kubuntu-desktop07:01
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SuseUXjoe_, thats the thing about microsoft format, it changes every version07:01
ZeZuhow can i check what packages i can download from apt-get ? so i know what the exact filename is ?07:01
dougskoStrike4ce: put in the cd and reboot should work07:01
TodFlandersgreat minds think alike, i may do the kbuntu-desktop tomorrow07:01
joe_SuseUX, what about divx?07:01
naliothZeZu: use synaptic07:01
luiStrike4ce, in the terminal write sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:01
propagandhikubuntu with kde 3.5 beta is excellent07:01
TodFlandersZeZu try synaptic07:01
dougskoZeZu: run synaptic, its a gui front-end to apt07:01
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jwd_hey balioth07:01
ZeZusynaptic ?07:01
ZeZuok07:01
joe_SuseUX, apt-get install divx?07:01
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jwd_I mean nalioth07:01
wastrelhow do i change my screen resolution?07:01
SuseUXjoe_, divx works fine07:02
naliothubotu: tell ZeZu about synaptic07:02
jwd_I got everything running :-)07:02
naliothjoe_: howdy07:02
naliothjwd_: cool07:02
jwd_apache setup as well07:02
Strike4cedownloading now lol07:02
dmlinuxAnyone know how to edit Synclient properties???07:02
joe_nalioth,  HI07:02
jwd_damn proud of myself07:02
jwd_hehehe07:02
dougskowastrel: system->screen resolution07:02
naliothjwd_: now there is more to learn07:02
SuseUXjoe_, divx should be in that codec package you installed07:02
jwd_oh I know07:02
Strike4ceI still like microsoft07:02
eXcentraHow do I make it so that when I put headphones into the headphone jack, the sound only comes out in the headphones?07:02
jwd_I used to be in the field before the attacks07:02
luiStrike4ce, of course man, and you know why? because linux is the best! :)07:02
wastreldoug system->preferences->screen resolution  tells me that i don't have RandR support07:03
joe_SuseUX, is it a player persay?07:03
jwd_its just been so long07:03
dougskowastrel:system->preferences->screen resolution07:03
jwd_you forget so much07:03
Strike4celol that must be  abot07:03
dougskoyeah sorry...07:03
crimsuneXcentra: should be automatic.07:03
joe_divx movie.wmv?07:03
dougskoim not a bot07:03
jwd_I was surprised how much of vi I remembered!07:03
naliothjoe_: divx are usually .avi07:03
luiStrike4ce, and you can use kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time07:03
eXcentracrimsun, it comes out in both the headphones and speakers. :|07:03
wastreli've edited my XF86Config-4 file but it didn't seem to work07:03
SuseUXjoe_, any linux player can play that format, just ned the codecs07:03
propagandhiStrike4ce: keep using linux and you will steadily grow hatred for all things M$07:03
dmlinuxDoes anyone know how to configure Synclient ? please :P07:03
dougskoive been doing emag homework all night and im a little drunk right now07:03
joe_oh i see07:03
Strike4cewell what about my vid card?07:03
dougskosorry07:03
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TodFlanderswastrel did you edit the right color depth?07:03
dougskojust trying to help07:04
Strike4cei use this laptop to watch dvds07:04
wastrelTodFlanders:  i edited them all07:04
joe_i was under a diiferetn impression07:04
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TodFlandersdo you have a vertrefresh and horizrefresh setting in their?07:04
Strike4ceI have a ati radeon 9600 pro turbo07:04
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lui"Strike4ce: I still like microsoft" ---- you were going well until that phrase :D07:04
wastrelTodFlanders:  in the monitor section yes07:04
ZeZuif i have a p4 my arch is 686 right ?07:04
Flarex_RuinHello, I'm trying to convert from Windows to Ubuntu, would anyway please assist me? (I have downloaded the .iso)07:04
crimsuneXcentra: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:05
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, you got to first tell us if you wish to dual boot or not ?07:05
dmacdonald111dougsk: Thanks for your help - I have renamed the files and they it's working. I still have a few errors, but at least I can look for it now!07:05
TodFlanderswastrel is rour res real bad or just want higher?07:05
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: we will all assist you07:05
Flarex_RuinYes, I think I'd like to dual boot to start07:05
bam_Flarex_Ruin, burn the iso to dvd the reboot with dvd in the drive, follow instructions07:05
wastrelTodFlanders:  i am trying to get my laptop to output on an external monitor07:05
Flarex_RuinIf I unexpectatly leave, it's because my windows crashes07:05
wastrelTodFlanders:  it doesn't want to work.07:05
dougskodmacdonald111: good stuff, these guys r calling me a bot!07:05
Strike4ceI was kidding I like tinkering with this07:05
dougskolol07:05
Flarex_RuinHow do I burn a ISO, I have Alcohol 120%07:06
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wastrelTodFlanders:  so i'm trying to dumb it down to 640x480 to see if i can get things going at all before i tweak07:06
dmacdonald111haha! That's cos you are answering everyone's questions that is :D07:06
TodFlandersoh :/ not sure about all that, if the res options are too low you may have to tinker with refresh settings which im nt that great at07:06
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: alcohol has an image burning wizard07:06
orkois it possible to compile only one module in a kernel.. (i only want to build drivers/scsi/aacraid)07:06
Flarex_RuinRight, found it07:06
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eXcentracrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/298407:06
TodFlandershave you gotten any output to it yet?07:06
wastrelTodFlanders:  the res options are too high.  i commented out everything but 640x480 but i'm still at 1400x150007:06
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, is it possibile to ask a local linux guru to help you ??07:07
Flarex_RuinCan I burn the .rar?07:07
Strike4ceanyone know how to get my vid card working at its best with ubuntu or kubuntu?07:07
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wastrelTodFlanders:  it works while i'm in the console mode, but once X starts it doesn't07:07
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, nope ... rar is not image07:07
Flarex_RuinI don't know what a local linux guru is07:07
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SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, just burn the iso to cd07:07
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, I mean you know anyone who live near you that knows linux well ?07:07
Flarex_RuinIt comes in a .rar format though07:07
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me_hey people. just used gparted to attempt at partitioning my second hard drive. how do i write files to it? its located at /dev/sdc and its an ext3 and the partition is called New Partition #1.. i don't know where to go from here07:07
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dougskowastrel: are u using the nvidia driver?07:07
Flarex_Ruinwickedpuppy, negative07:07
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propagandhiFlarex: is the iso in a rar file, or is it a rar icon because u have winrar installed07:08
wastreldougsk:  it's ATI07:08
joe_SuseUX and Nalioth, the win32codecs file is a zip file that has more files in it. i do not know where to extract to. when i open the file it asks me to use the archive manager07:08
duncanmwhat do i have to do to get usplash to work?07:08
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TodFlanderswastrel have you seen this howto? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=tv+output07:08
duncanmi installed the splash manager, and some splash packages, but i don't see any listed as installed07:08
Strike4ceit pisses me off that i cant use this to access my work site on a emulator.  it wont work without Microsoft Virtual machine.  otherwise I would leave microsoft07:08
crimsuneXcentra: try toggling Headphone07:08
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, if it's a rar then it's not ubuntu07:08
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budluvahow do i add a command at boot for my x session? my monitor is old and dark, so i have to manually type this command in a term every time i log in, xgamma -d :0 -gamma 3.0 and would like to automate this, how do i go about it?07:08
Flarex_RuinIll check propagandhi07:08
ubuntu_anybody know the su password for ubuntu live?07:08
crimsunubuntu_: there is none07:08
dmacdonald111ubuntu_: I think its root07:08
wickedpuppyubuntu_, i just su -s and i am in #07:08
naliothjoe_: are you talking about the file ending in .deb?07:08
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: winrar labels .iso files with its archive icon07:08
naliothubuntu_: there is non07:08
Strike4ceanyone know anything about using Microsoft virtual machine with ubuntu?07:09
joe_yes07:09
Flarex_RuinShould I try to burn the file I downloaded?07:09
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, go download the iso file from ubuntu's website07:09
wastrelok thx i'm done for the night :] 07:09
wastrelwill try again later07:09
joe_nalioth, and i mv that file to then usr/local/lib/codecs dir07:09
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naliothjoe_: you've installed it. it doesnt need to be opened or anything else07:09
Flarex_RuinI did SuseUX07:09
joe_oh07:09
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propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: use alcohols image burning wizard - browse to the file and burn it07:09
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, yes ... Flarex_Ruin you seems to be ... totally newbie ... I strongly plead that you seek help or backup everything you got on ya windowz07:09
ubuntu_thanks07:09
jcarrhow can I add fonts for all my apps to use07:09
jcarr?07:10
dougskowastrel: hmm...try this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257007:10
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TodFlanderswastrel good luck i havent tried that ever07:10
ZeZui have tried everything to get these fglrx drivers working ;(  can anyone think of any suggestions, fglrx still says mesa07:10
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ZeZui just replaced w/ the 686 fglrx driver and no help07:10
luiquestion: what are the differences between a normal package and a devel package?07:10
eXcentracrimsun, err, how do I toggle it?07:10
Flarex_RuinHow can I back up everything?07:10
naliothjcarr: put any ttf fonts you like into ~/.fonts07:10
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, you got to burn every think you think is important07:10
Flarex_RuinWow, that'll be a while07:11
naliothlui: the dev pkgs allow other programs to be compiled to use the program07:11
TodFlandersflarex_rain http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087&highlight=exclude07:11
SuseUXlui, dev packages has development and libraries files07:11
shreevatsaubotu, add07:11
SuseUX:-)07:11
ubotuadd is, like, To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets07:11
ZeZuelse this is going to be one more distro down the drain due to crappy ati drivers07:11
wickedpuppythats what I do ... i don't wanna cry later when my install go bad07:11
SuseUXto many helpers :-)07:11
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shreevatsaubotu, sources07:12
ubotufrom memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)07:12
dougskoFlarex_Ruin: leave a dvdRW in yr drive and have a cron job burn whatever u want each night on it07:12
wickedpuppyZeZu, ati support is always crappy on all distros07:12
Flarex_RuinIs there anyway I can upload these important files, or hide them on my hard drive?07:12
ZeZuyea so i'm told07:12
ZeZubut some people do get it working07:12
dmacdonald111Did someone mention something about a new release of breezy earlier?07:12
Flarex_RuinI don't have a DVD drive, only CDRW07:12
ZeZui'd like to be one of those poeple07:12
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, why dont you try live cd?07:12
propagandhidougsko: i dont think that will be very helpful to Flarex_Ruin07:12
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, if you got external harddrive or any place to put them07:12
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luinalioth, like.... what kind of programs in first place need the program in second place?07:12
dougskopropagandhi: just an idea...07:13
ZeZui have checked all the proper shit, nothing helps tho07:13
Flarex_RuinNegative, wickedpuppy07:13
propagandhidougsko: but he knows nothing about linux yet it seems07:13
wickedpuppyFlarex_Ruin, then i suggest you burn everything you think you will miss ...07:13
joe_nalioth, even tho the files inside the .deb package are tar.gz files?07:13
naliothlui: mplayer is a very useful program to play audio/video. if you write a program to play audio, you can write parts of mplayer into it, so as to make your work not so hard07:13
SuseUXlive cd dont touch your harddrive07:13
dougskopropagandhi: thats ok, ill answer any questions he has to the best of my knowledge07:13
naliothjoe_: the deb has instructions to your system's dpkg as to where to install the contents07:14
ZeZuanyone even have any good idea why fglrx might not work on my system :  i have a asus p4c800 delux board and the card is a saphire radeon 9800 pro07:14
mengSuseUX: u know how to add suse to ubuntu's grub?07:14
ZeZuusing breezy07:14
TodFlandersflarex who you hiding them from? a uneducated user? if so just disable the read prsmiison for everyone07:14
joe_ok07:14
luinalioth, oooohhh, okkkkk, thanks :)07:14
joe_i will work on this tomorrow, thanks for your help :)07:14
kevogodUm, it is not that difficult.07:14
SuseUXmeng, dont use SuSE, so..07:14
kevogodIn fact, it is quite trivial.07:14
joe_SuseUX, thanks for your help as well07:14
SuseUX:-)07:15
ZeZui remember there was a log file i read that told me what wasn't starting last time07:15
Flarex_RuinMy problem is, windows is constantly crashing on me, i have spyware/viruses everywhere, i can't system restore it always crashes, my IE always crashes (has for almost a year), so I'm trying to run away from my problems07:15
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ZeZuanyone know what file that might be? had all the modules start output07:15
mengSuseUX: was thinking of Mandriva, but you know about the membership costs07:15
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: but you still have crucial data that needs to be backed up?07:15
SuseUXmeng, it's free07:15
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Flarex_Ruinand I would burn everything important and wipe my HD, but I don't know how to do that, nor do I think I can re-install windows afterwards...07:16
ZeZui guess xchat doesnt have support for being on multiple servers ;|07:16
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Strike4ceok kubunu is done now what?07:16
mengSuseUX: i meant Mandriva 200607:16
naliothZeZu: sure it does07:16
Flarex_Ruinprop, yes i do07:16
ZeZuor the cmd cmd format is not the same07:16
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ZeZudamn07:16
ZeZujust not used to it ;)07:16
Flarex_Ruinsome of my parents stuff on here is extremely crucial07:16
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: you dont seem to be in a position to attempt this yet then07:16
naliothZeZu: x-chat > server list07:17
SuseUXmeng, ahh, but the iso's will be soon, I just cannot stand Mandriva07:17
Flarex_RuinWhat are my other options?07:17
ZeZuah no server -n,m host or smth ?07:17
Flarex_RuinI got a few boring days coming up, our teachers are on strike07:17
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, Do you really need WIndows?07:17
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: another hard drive, an external hard drive, another computer07:17
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Flarex_RuinNot if Ubuntu can handle my Windows programs07:17
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, Linux has it's own07:18
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: dont count on ubuntu running your windows software07:18
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dougskook, well, i have class at freakin 8 am tomorrw, so ill see yall tomarrow. take it easy guys, and dont smash yr box yet, it can work beautifly :)07:18
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ZeZui dont suppose anyone answered my question about what log file i should look at to see what is happening when fglrx fails to load the ati driver while i was parted ?07:18
Flarex_RuinMy buddy, who got me into this, says it runs EA stuff for him...07:18
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tritiumZeZu, /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:18
ZeZui seem to remember it being a /var smth07:18
ZeZuah thx07:18
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dmacdonald111damn you users! lol07:18
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bam_kill -9 dmacdonald11107:19
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: it CAN do some stuff like that, but not without learning and installing stuff - and it definitely wont run all EA stuff, maybe a select few07:19
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, you can play games, Windwos games with cedega and some native linux games07:19
dmacdonald111nooooooooooooooo!07:19
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bam_;)07:19
ubuntu_he4y where are the harddrives mounted if i'm using a ubuntu live cd07:19
Flarex_RuinI'll be honest, I'm quite afraid of Linux07:19
ZeZueverything in it is OK unless its (EE) right ?07:19
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propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: so i bill gates07:20
dmacdonald111not my fault! last time I was in here, I was told that breezy was totally stable!07:20
SuseUXubotu, they are not07:20
propagandhi*is07:20
ubotuSuseUX: I think you lost me on that one07:20
Flarex_RuinIs there any Windows Emulators...?07:20
mojoQuequeg: hi i got a weird problem... my DEL key stopped doing anything.  It shows in xev okay, other kbds make no diff, but X does not seem to respond to it (X.Org).  any ideas?07:20
bam_you have to give linux at least 4 weeks07:20
ZeZu(II) is info | (WW) is warning ?07:20
bam_wine07:20
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: you can use vmware under linux07:20
dmacdonald111aw, do I have to?07:20
ZeZuFlarex_Ruin, there is wine and there is vmware which you can run windows on07:20
dmacdonald111^wining07:20
dmacdonald111hehe07:20
ubuntu_anybody?07:20
Flarex_RuinWhats that prop?07:20
bam_lol07:20
Quequegmojo, not particularly -- why single me out?  ;)07:20
SuseUXit's pointless telling him about running Windows programs07:21
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bam_no win(dows)e(mulator)07:21
propagandhiit runs windows in a window under linux07:21
Flarex_RuinWhat makes Ubuntu better then them?07:21
tritiumdmacdonald111, it's not even released yet,07:21
bam_easy to config07:21
mojoOh, sorry.  I typed Q - Colon to mean question.  X-Chat musta did a username lookup / substitution.  :-D07:21
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jmhodgesumm.. probably a FAQ for breezy, but anyone else experienced a problem with totem knowing what to do with mpegs?07:21
bam_took 20 minutes to install ubuntu on my laptop07:21
ZeZu(WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore07:21
dmacdonald111as I've just seen tritium. lol. I have it though :)07:21
bam_recognized everything(except my firewire)07:22
mojoQuequeg: Oh, sorry.  I typed Q - Colon to mean question.  X-Chat musta did a username lookup / substitution.  :-D07:22
Flarex_RuinCan I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows, and select which one at start up?07:22
bam_yup07:22
SuseUXjmhodges, yer, it dont play them :-)07:22
bam_thats what grub is for07:22
dmacdonald111but it isn't easy Flarex_Ruin07:22
luiyes Flarex_Ruin07:22
Flarex_RuinDarn, I'm looking for easy07:22
SuseUXit's easy07:22
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bam_depends on what you consider easy...07:22
mojoFlarex_Ruin: not terribly hard either, just need to be sure u know what is on what partition already07:23
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: you wont be able to do it if you dont at least have a spare partition, and if you cant afford to lose your existing data, and you cant back it up07:23
dmacdonald111not if you don't know linux at all07:23
ZeZu(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found07:23
kevogodIt IS easy if you have Windows installed first.07:23
SuseUXmost distros now do it automaticly07:23
bam_if he has an extra hdd he can use it07:23
ZeZudoes agp have a pci busid ?07:23
bam_dual boot07:23
kevogodIf not, it may be more of a challenge for a novice.07:23
jmhodgesback07:23
propagandhithats right but he said he didnt07:23
Flarex_RuinC:\ has my windows and some stuff, D:\ is mostly programs07:23
ZeZuor does it just scan that first ?07:23
mojoFlarex_Ruin: If Win is already installed, esp. if room to spare, Ubuntu will install after and include the Windows install in GRUB07:23
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: then move everything to C:07:23
jmhodgesSuseUX: yeah, thanks.. just installed totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer.. silly me07:23
budluvaanyone know what mirror i can apt j2re?07:23
duncanmis eclipse still broken on breezy?07:24
propagandhiand you can use D:07:24
kevogodduncanm, Broken for me.07:24
jmhodgesbtw breezy is amazing07:24
naliothubotu: tell budluva about java07:24
bam_then he can use partition majic in windows and resize the partition07:24
mojoFlarex_Ruin: GRUB being the GRand Unified Boot-loader that lets u pick the OS to boot07:24
luiFlarex_Ruin, you don't have 2 hardrives, or do you?07:24
jmhodgesso, thanks for rocking07:24
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bam_just free up say 10 gigs07:24
Flarex_RuinNo way I can move everything to C:\ it's only 20 gigs and D:\ is 60 gigs07:24
duncanmjmhodges: frankly, i don't see it to be that different from hoary07:24
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Flarex_Ruin1 hard drive partitioned07:24
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SuseUXjmhodges,  xine is good, gstreamer dont play .mov files07:24
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: do you have the windows cd07:24
bam_so you have 2 hdd's07:24
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naliothSuseUX: it does if you install libquicktime07:25
kevogodduncanm, One step at at time, one step07:25
jmhodgesSuseUX: exactly, yeah.. i just forogt that when the distro upgrade happens, it autoinstalls totem-gstreamer again.. need my w32codecs :-/07:25
mojoQUESTION: hi i got a weird problem... my DEL key stopped doing anything.  It shows in xev okay, other kbds make no diff, but X does not seem to respond to it (X.Org).  any ideas?07:25
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Flarex_RuinNo, I don't have the windows CD, the people that put together my system are out of business and they never gave me anything regarding windows07:25
kevogod!tell jmhodges about w32codecs07:25
cafuego_SuseUX: even on amd64 it plays .mov07:25
SuseUXnalioth, did that, gstreamer didnot play it07:25
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luiFlarex_Ruin, ok, the best optio is 2 hardrives but that is out of this discussion ;)07:25
naliothjmhodges: if you upgraded, your codecs should still be there07:25
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: can you obtain said windows07:25
SuseUXunless soemthing has changed07:25
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Flarex_Ruinsaid?07:25
jmhodgesnalioth: yeah, thanks07:25
shreevatsa!tell me about w32codecs07:26
propagandhican you get a windows cd from any source07:26
Trashcan!tell me about w32codecs07:26
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, do you want a simple solution?07:26
Flarex_RuinMy dad has a windows xp disc I believe07:26
jmhodgeskevogod: i just insatalled via marillat..07:26
mojoALSO: The DEL on Num-pad works fine (when numlock off, of course ;-)07:26
Trashcanlol shreevatsa, nice timing07:26
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: xp pro or home07:26
jmhodgesthanks though, guys07:26
Flarex_RuinSuseUX: that's why I'm here ;o)07:26
Trashcan!tell me about w32codecs07:26
jmhodgesbut thats a solved problem for me07:26
jmhodgesheh07:26
Flarex_RuinI'm not sure prop, I know I'm running XP07:26
jmhodges!tell trashcan about w32codecs07:26
Flarex_RuinGive me 2 secs07:26
Trashcanthansk jm ;)07:26
propagandhiI mean your dads cd07:26
Trashcanthanks*07:26
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SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, firstly backup you important data, liek music files, docs, NO programs07:26
jmhodgesTrashcan: np, next time try !tell trashman yourself ;007:27
ZeZuhere is the error07:27
jmhodgeser.. :)07:27
ZeZu(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"07:27
eXcentraHow do I toggle Headphones in with amixer?07:27
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rewinehi07:27
Leiboureencan somebody help me with a TV card?07:27
Trashcanit worked, it just said 'someone already said that 22 seconds ago'07:27
Flarex_Ruinit's pro07:27
jmhodgeskevogod: the jre debs would have been handy before i made them myself..07:27
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, Secondly, If Windows is that bad just install ubuntu fresh07:27
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: ok, easy07:27
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rewinekinsa clasmet dha cliff john gwapo07:27
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jmhodgesnever doing that again.. ick07:27
shreevatsaHow do I ask questions to the ubotu without irritating everyone?07:27
shreevatsaI mean, without everyone seeing it?07:27
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: do you have all the software you need to reinstall07:27
nalioth!msg the bot07:28
rewinegwapo c cliff ayaw saba07:28
cafuego_shreevatsa: just send ubotu a private message07:28
Flarex_RuinShould I just back up all my important things, and then just wipe and re-install?07:28
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, thats the way, just do it and start using Linux07:28
shreevatsathanks07:28
tritiumjmhodges, it's not so hard to build a java .deb07:28
propagandhiFlarex_Ruin: yes, move them to D:07:28
bam_yes07:28
rewineFUCK YOU SUCCERS07:28
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SuseUXnice07:28
kevogodjmhodges, Well, those debs are sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb, the ones I have built are update0507:28
auraxhaha07:28
propagandhithen install windows to D: but do not format the partition07:28
Flarex_Ruinand then I'll install ubuntu and have a brand new HD07:28
cafuego_It's "suckers".07:28
Slaj_RQuestion:  I followed the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683, and I still have no wireless.  Troubleshooting suggestions?07:28
auraxthat was fast nalioth07:28
propagandhiand then you can install ubuntu on C:07:28
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shreevatsa!msg ubotu java07:28
ubotushreevatsa: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:28
sambagirlshould you download .rpm files?07:29
auraxlol07:29
naliothshreevatsa: /msg ubotu msg the bot07:29
shreevatsa!msg ubotu w32codecs07:29
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, shreevatsa07:29
cafuego_aurax: It never takes long after thay start speaking in tongues.07:29
jmhodgeskevogod: ahh ok07:29
shreevatsaoops07:29
naliothsambagirl: not really07:29
tritiumsambagirl, what for?07:29
bam_you wont have to partition it, ubuntu will do that for you07:29
auraxhehe07:29
kevogodjmhodges, Not that it really makes any difference07:29
SuseUXWTF?07:29
SuseUXinstall on C:?07:29
CaiN_SAi got a new hp 8220 and the ubuntu installer doesnt want to start any ideas ?07:29
auraxwtf?07:29
kevogodjmhodges, But I like having the latest version07:29
auraxlol07:29
auraxthis is funny07:29
sambagirli gnormalize07:29
pupilwhat player should I use if I want to play mpeg, avi and wmv files?07:29
jmhodgescrap.. my vids now have a strange blue tone.. almost like sepia..not sure what the word is07:29
sambagirlsome kind of thingy07:29
naliothpupil: any you like07:29
jmhodgespupil: totem-xine and also install w32codecs07:30
sambagirlxmms to much difficulty07:30
cafuego_pupil: totem with plugins or xine or mplayer07:30
SuseUXFlarex_Ruin, just follow what I said and you canot go wrong07:30
naliothsambagirl: install beep media player07:30
propagandhiSuseUX - i am using a terminology Flarex_Ruin understands07:30
bam_thingy...whats a thingy?07:30
pupiljmhodges, can I apt-get it ?07:30
Flarex_Ruinill start backing up all my files07:30
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me_hey people; how can i set up multiple monitors in breezy?07:30
eXcentraDoes anybody know how to toggle Headphones in amixer?07:30
ZeZudamn these are the exact same errors i have had the whole time07:30
naliothpupil: you can apt the totem07:30
sambagirljuts type install beep[ media playet ?07:30
ZeZuand patches didn't work last time07:30
naliothubotu: tell pupil about w32codecs07:30
ZeZuwtf ubuntu doesn't come w/ gcc ?07:30
calcbam_: not to be confused with thingee ;)07:30
naliothsambagirl: use synaptic07:30
sambagirlnalioth what i should type?07:30
bam_Flarex_Ruin, good07:30
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Flarex_Ruinback a few seconds guys, my computer is crashing07:30
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ZeZualso does it not create a root act ?07:31
bam_i thought thingee was plural07:31
naliothubotu: tell ZeZu about root07:31
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bam_of thingy07:31
jmhodgesanyone futzed with totem's colors.. the Saturation, Hue, etc. dont seem to do anything07:31
luiFlarex_Ruin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WindowsDualBootHowTo07:31
calcbam_: heh07:31
ZeZuyes thats what i thought07:31
SuseUXPropagandhi, C:/ it not right in the frist place for starters07:31
cafuego_No, it would be C:\07:31
bam_no-dual boot, no-dual boot07:31
propagandhidid i write C:/07:32
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erickanyone from the group know how to disable the bios password of UM8498F, there is no cmos batterry07:32
sambagirlis earched for beep it did not see it07:32
bam_wait I dual boot07:32
sambagirlsearched07:32
propagandhino i didnt07:32
propagandhii wrote C:07:32
mcquaidhello, i've just upgraded to breezy without too many issues. however i use a custom kernel and i'm having some difficulty recompiling it07:32
cafuego_erick: what bios is it? award?07:32
naliothsambagirl:  beep-media-player07:32
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bam_yes, nice player07:32
SuseUXPropagandhi, thats just plane picky07:33
mcquaidi didn't want to recompile the kern, but nvidia flagged me that gcc4 is in use but my existing kernel was compiled with 3.x07:33
ZeZusynaptic says i have gcc3.3base installed but gcc/make are not doing anything ?07:33
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propagandhiSuseUX: and what would u say your doing07:33
calcbanshee looks cool07:33
mcquaidso i thought i'd recompile the kern but getting this error with make gconfig:07:33
naliothZeZu: install "build-essential"07:33
ZeZuthx07:33
mcquaid/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found07:33
ZerockedGalathilcrap, i can't click anything on my desktop again -_-07:33
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jmhodgesomg, libnotify is being used in breezy?07:33
cafuego_mcquaid: the nvidia modules are already compiled. linux-restricted-modules07:33
jmhodgessweet!07:33
sambagirlnalioth it does not see it07:33
SuseUXPropagandhi, never mind07:33
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mcquaidya i know i don't use those07:33
naliothubotu: tell sambagirl about sources07:33
erickcafuego AWARD v4.50G07:33
propagandhiSuseUX: great, thanx for your input07:33
naliothubotu: tell sambagirl about repos07:33
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cafuego_erick: use AWARD_SW as pass, then remove the real pass.07:34
orkohow would I go about replacing the aacraid.ko module that the hoary installer cd uses07:34
erickits my old 8048607:34
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ZeZuthank god i have a good connection, else this would be a mess07:34
cafuego_mcquaid: Then support is availble on www.nvidia.com07:34
XtRGah. How do I reconfigure X in Ubuntu?07:34
thewayofzenminimal ubuntu install .. done with a server install.. then installed xfce.. no gnome.07:34
ZerockedGalathilrebooting again07:34
erickcafuego wow, its work thanks07:34
thewayofzenwould anyone be able to explain why gaim wont play sounds and i get errors07:34
mcquaidhmm, ignore that i mentioned nvidia, i'm just trying to compile the ubuntu source with make gconfig07:34
thewayofzenbut xmms works fine with alsa07:34
naliothubotu: tell XtR about fixres07:34
SuseUXPropagandhi, telling someone that they install ubuntu on c: is just plain wrong07:34
mcquaidwhy am i getting gcc3.4 not found errors07:34
calccafuego_: heh sounds like award bios is really secure ;)07:35
sambagirlnalioth can't i typpe apt get beep-media07:35
XtRThanks.07:35
cafuego_mcquaid: Coz gcc 3.4 isn't installed.07:35
Slaj_Rquick question:  in the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683, under step 3, how do I know where the line breaks are in that code?07:35
naliothmcquaid: is it installed?07:35
Octaneanyone know if flash is out of ramd64?07:35
sambagirlapt-get07:35
cafuego_mcquaid: hint: install it07:35
naliothsambagirl: ?07:35
mcquaidheh yes i should do that, i have 3.3 and 4.007:35
propagandhiSuseUX: u missed the vitals of the conversation, i was explaining what he could do with his current setup07:35
sambagirlnevermind :)07:35
mcquaidi thought ubuntu was using 4.0 now07:35
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mcquaidso i thought i had to force it to use 4.0 or something07:35
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cafuego_mcquaid: Yes, but not for the kernel.07:35
naliothmcquaid: it does. install "build-essential" and "gcc-3.4"07:35
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propagandhiSuseUX: he explained his partitions as C and D, I merely told him he would be able to use what he knew as C to install it07:36
propagandhiSuseUX: i was telling him to move the data from his C to the D07:36
cafuego_propagandhi:07:36
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mcquaidah i forgot, build-essential got flagged for removal during breezy07:37
mcquaidthx07:37
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propagandhicafuego_:07:37
cafuego_if he wants to dual-boot, he should leave C: as windows can't boot off D without having an 8Mb FAT32 partition on C;07:37
ect4hi07:37
thewayofzeni used to get sound out of gaim in xfce by configuring the sound to COMMAND and then using play %s07:37
thewayofzenno advice?07:37
SuseUXcafuego_, correct07:38
erickcafuego can 80486 support boot on cdrom07:38
naliotherick: use a boot floppy07:38
cafuego_erick: If the bios supports it, sure.07:38
propagandhicafuego_: thats not true07:38
cafuego_propagandhi: Yes, it is.07:38
propagandhicafuego_: well explain why I am doing it right now07:38
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cafuego_propagandhi: Unless you start swapping drives about in the bios.07:38
erickbut nalioth I want to try the pxe thin client that can only boot on cdrom07:38
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cafuego_propagandhi: Maybe I imagined the whole thing then.07:39
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naliotherick: try your machine. if cdrom wont boot, you can make a boot floppy that'll boot the cdrom07:39
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SuseUXsome people have a weird way of explaining things07:40
sambagirlis there a channel for getting rudimentary ubuntu support?07:40
tristan622phhow do i install java?07:40
cafuego_!java07:40
ubotujavadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java07:40
naliothsambagirl: you are here07:40
ericknalioth, yeah I know that thanks07:40
sambagirlhaha07:40
mojosambagirl: this one07:40
tristan622phi already installed it but when i run the azureus it says Starting Azureus...07:40
tristan622phJava exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...07:40
tristan622phOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy07:40
tristan622phYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com07:40
naliothtristan622ph: dont paste in here07:40
sambagirlok i downloaded 2 different ones07:40
tristan622phsorry07:40
sambagirlso they are .deb07:40
naliothtristan622ph: you got your answer from ubotu07:40
sambagirlso now i'm stuck07:40
cafuego_tristan622ph: Check the appropriate url as posted by ubotu.07:41
naliothsambagirl: what is a deb?07:41
sambagirlthis is unix iknow.07:41
sambagirla debian file compressoin scheme, no?07:41
mojodeb is a debian package file07:41
sambagirliwas close right?07:41
mojosambagirl: similar to an rpm file for the redhat package manager07:41
sambagirlahh ok07:42
jmhodgesok, i dont understand something07:42
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sambagirlso .sco is santa cruz organizatoin07:42
jmhodgeswhen i take the totem screenshot of a file, the color is just right07:42
mojosambagirl: but the .deb packages are usually managed with apt/aptitude/synaptic07:42
jmhodgesbut the video still plays heavily tinted in blue07:42
sambagirlwell how do i get thiem in there?07:42
aztektumis there a way to use wpa w/o wpa_supplicant which doesn't support my pcmcia driver07:42
naliothsambagirl: ubotu sent you some info07:42
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mojosambagirl: Ubuntu is based on the work of Debian, another distribution that serves as a base for many others07:42
cycomsambagirl: only they update it more often than once a millenia.07:43
sambagirlok thanks for your help, i appreciate it.07:43
cafuego_cycom: decade, not millennium.07:44
sambagirlnite07:44
sambagirl:)07:44
sQis there any download manager for ubuntu available?07:44
mojosambagirl: gnite, gluck07:44
cycomWhen they moved from woddy to sarge as 'stable', I thought it was the coming of the apocolypse.  I was waiting for the seven horsemen and all that.07:44
naliothsQ: many07:44
cycomI got indegestion and a cold.07:44
cafuego_sQ: firefox, wget07:44
BelutzsQ, d4x07:44
sQare they available on synaptic?07:44
naliothsQ: yep. enable your universe and multiverse repos07:45
sQokay.. thanks..07:45
sQany recommandations of which is the better one?07:45
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SuseUXwow, more updates07:45
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sambagirlahh i did update of supository and now it works07:45
ZeZuwell replacing libdri.a didn't help07:45
sambagirlthanks much.07:45
naliothsQ: use them all, keep what you like07:46
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mojolol sambagirl07:46
naliothSandollar: no problema07:46
cycomsambagirl: yes, but where did you put the updates?07:46
leahhello07:46
budluvahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8 <--- is this the correct way to watch xvid/divx? or do i need to find those codecs elsewhere?07:46
sQnalioth, do they accelerate download?07:46
SuseUXnalioth, is it a bug that the update dont how until you acually go into the updates and refresh?07:46
naliothsQ: some more than others07:46
mojosupository = repository? ha ha07:46
naliothsQ: also try prozilla07:46
SuseUXshow*07:46
naliothy'all be nice to sambagirl, she doesnt speak english as her first language07:47
cycomnalioth: I want to know where she learned suppository.07:47
mojonalioth: sambagirl: just playing, no problm07:47
sambagirli just choose update thingy in the thing you know.07:47
sambagirlthe synaptic thing07:47
mojonalioth: yeah, that is one she'll want to get straight for future reference07:47
cycomsambagirl: be glad that English ain't your first language, because it makes about as much sense as MS Windows.07:47
SuseUXupdater dont work proper in 5.10RC07:48
r0xoRhow do i find the latest version of a package with apt-get07:48
r0xoRroot@ubuntu:~# apt-get install linux-tree-2.6.8.107:48
r0xoRsays07:48
cafuego_sQ: Normally Linux downloads as fast as your connection can handle. Acceleration is not required.07:48
r0xoRE: Couldn't find package linux-tree-2.6.8.107:48
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Madpilotbudluva: those instructions are accurate - note the part about disabling the marillat repos afterwards so you don't hose your system07:48
cafuego_r0xoR: apt-cache search <string>07:48
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mojor0xoR: i think apt-cache show packagename07:48
erickcafuego, how about the other brand how can I dissable it07:48
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budluvamaddler, marillat or nerim?07:48
cafuego_erick: sorry, which brand?07:48
naliothbudluva: both07:48
budluvaok thanks07:49
erickany brand that you know just for reference07:49
cafuego_erick: Just award :-)07:49
mojor0xoR: but first apt-get update to re-download lists from repositories07:49
r0xoRmmm... i did the "updates" when i first installed my system07:49
r0xoRdoes that count?07:49
erickk cafuego tnx07:50
calchmm banshee is still a bit buggy07:50
SuseUXcalc, yer but look real promising :-)07:50
r0xoRwell i just ran update so apparently it counts07:50
calcSuseUX: yea07:50
mojocafuego_: isn't the accelerator tech doing compression on the data in conjunction with a back-end at the isp?07:50
calcalso seems to be a bit heavy on ram usage ~ 190MB on my box07:51
SuseUXmono07:51
cafuego_Mojo: firefox already does transparent gz compression on text (if apache is set to support it)07:51
SuseUXthats why07:51
mojocafuego_: sweet, didn't know that. :)07:51
calcyea hopefully they can reduce mono memory usage07:51
cafuego_mojo: If I were an ISP I wouldn't be wasting cpu cycles on marginally speeding up a download for $USER07:52
cafuego_calc: Oh, I'm only swapping 500 MB ;-)07:52
mojocafuego_: yeah me neither.  i just was wondering how those svcs worked.  i can see dialup isp services tho needing that to help compete nowadays07:52
SuseUXcalc, yer f-spot shows it can07:52
cafuego_Mojo: <heh> dialup funny. Most shitty DSL here si cheaper then dialup these days.07:53
mojocafuego_: at 56k raw data, it would not take too much for a box to handle multiple connex07:53
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luibye people, thanks07:53
calccafuego_: heh i'm only 284MB into swap with just a couple apps open, gaim, gweather, gnome-terminal, xpdf, firefox07:53
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cafuego_mojo: But you're still limited to 56K down. Modems would compress anyway.07:53
mojocafuego_: yeah dsl really wants to compete with cable but just cant it seems07:53
SuseUXbanshee is vey much like rhythmbox07:54
naliothcafuego_: root access to the mysql database?07:54
swamychadsl problem07:54
calcfirefox shows its using ~ 450MB07:54
TylerDurdendoes anyone know of how i could play mpg files?07:54
TylerDurdeni just installed w32codecs07:54
mojocafuego_: true that, i almost forgot about MNP protocol and all that07:54
cafuego_mojo: DSL2 here is is faster then cable (and offer by ISPs that don't suck)07:54
naliothTylerDurden: mplayer, totem, kaffeine, etc07:54
TylerDurdenand it sitll wouldnt play07:54
cafuego_nalioth: eh?07:54
naliothcafuego_: installing blootbot07:54
TylerDurdentotem wont play it even with w32codecs07:54
mojocafuego_: been a while since i had to work with modems.  (takes me back...)07:54
naliothTylerDurden: wmv3 is out of our reach07:54
cycommojo: I use my cell phone and my laptop when I can't hit wifi.07:54
cycommojo: it goes at 14.407:55
TylerDurdenmpg07:55
cafuego_nalioth: Oh yeah, to set up its tables. The default mysql root pass word is blank.07:55
TylerDurdennot wmv307:55
joe_nalioth, heres what i found ---->Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found07:55
joe_Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found07:55
sambagirlbeep beep does not play it just freezes07:55
sambagirlblah07:55
mojo cafuego: where are u?  I am in middle Tennessee07:55
calccycom: i hear EvDO is cool :)07:55
cycommojo: but that's because I'm too cheap to go for the high speed07:55
cafuego_mojo: Melbourne (AU)07:55
naliothjoe_: mirrormax is not up anymore07:55
cycomcalc: it is! I use the store phone for that07:55
naliothubotu: tell joe_ about backports07:55
cycomsambagirl: what just freezes?07:55
sambagirli wish they had delitracker of something for ubuntu some amiga program would work07:55
joe_so what other backports whoudli use?07:55
sambagirlno output07:55
sambagirli pick song and it just locks07:55
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naliothjoe_: ahem, ubotu msgd you07:55
mcquaidanyone know of a good voip/sip irc channel?07:55
cafuego_cycom: We have 3G/CDMA pcmcia card here now, up to 1.5M wirelessly07:55
sambagirli had this issue with Xmms07:55
TylerDurdennalioth, i meant mpg07:56
mojosambagirl: run the UAE on Linux (Universal Amiga Emulator, i think)07:56
sambagirli dont have the roms07:56
sambagirlthis i know for fact07:56
cycomcafuego_: we have it too, but I have an older phone with 1x, so my max is 230kbit07:56
sambagirli get tomorrow maybe.07:56
mojosambagirl: check in Synaptic for emulators, it is prob there i think i saw it before07:56
sambagirlok07:56
sambagirlbrb07:56
cycomcafuego_: Verizon kicks quite a bit of ass by offering the 14.4 speed for free07:56
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naliothcafuego_: another project that has befuddled me b4 it starts07:57
cycomcafuego_: especially since I could get it working for me in windows and linux.  I was most pleased.07:57
mojoI am planning to get a wireless router here soon and share my cable connect with the neighbors (and they'll chip in).07:57
sambagirlok not to make big noise aobut this but is there war between kde and gnome?07:57
mojoI live in an apartment complex07:57
cafuego_cycom: Ha. Telstra (shite) offer it by the Kb downloaded.07:58
naliothsambagirl: no more a war then the one between chevy and ford07:58
jmhodgesok, howabout this07:58
cycomsambagirl: no, between KDE and Gnome USERS! :)07:58
sambagirlahh07:58
sambagirlok07:58
sambagirlnite!07:58
jmhodgesanyone know where totem saves its hue and saturation settings ?07:58
sambagirlthank you07:58
[LethAL] !start a desktop war07:58
ubotufluxbox is much better than xfce!07:58
cycomcafuego_: ouch! well, this just uses minutes.07:58
cycomcafuego_: but nights and weekends are free07:58
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mojoIf I get the funds to dedicate an old box, I'll set it up as a free WAP07:58
cafuego_nalioth: ... and you haven't even seen the blootbot code yet!07:58
cycomcafuego_: my last bill showed 1200 minute usage, but over 1000 were night and weekend07:58
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cycommojo: just buy a few wrt54g routers and run openwrt07:59
naliothcafuego_: it wont install, i'm off to talk to uncle google07:59
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r0xoR!tell me about nvidia07:59
neighborleewhy isn't auto-apt working ....? ( auto-apt search glx.h < yields a  blank line )07:59
mojocycom: yeah, i was thinking along those lines too07:59
cycommojo: you can make a pretty gnarly network off a few of those.  You can use em as bridges and stuff.07:59
cafuego_nalioth: Well, it *is* evil.07:59
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mojocycom: i was also looking into MeshBox and MeshAP, among others.07:59
cycommojo: Get a pair for a few houses and you have a community wireless network.07:59
mojocycom: and I am also interested in projects like Netsukuku, FreeNet, Tor, and such08:00
sambagirlthey have satellite tracking program08:00
cycommojo: Haven't seen those yet!08:00
cycomI'll have to look08:00
SuseUXhmm, totem still dont play mpeg08:00
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mojocycom: Netsukuku is a net to run on wireless meshes that uses fractal mapping to compress route tables, it is really cool idea for free mesh networking08:01
kYotiKim trying to compile xgdipc, and it depends on GTK >=1.0.2, I already have a newer version installed of course, but i keep getting build errors saying: "configure: error: Cannot find GTK+: Is gtk-config in executable path?"     can anyone help me out?08:01
mojocycom: TOR, The Onion Router, is an anonymizing network you can read about at eff.org08:01
sambagirlwow it asking for cdrom for doing install is this normal?08:01
jmhodgesok, i found the gconf settings08:01
jmhodgesbut changing them doesnt seem to do anything08:01
cafuego_kYotiK: you need the gtk -dev package too.08:01
jmhodgesim very, very confused..08:01
cycommojo: whoa. that's for big efficeint networks, yeah?08:01
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cycomsambagirl: you can remove it from your apt-sources, if you like, I think.08:02
cafuego_sambagirl: If you didn't remove the crdom from the list of available sources, yes, that's normal.08:02
mojocycom: FreeNet is a distributed file store and publishing network, also anon and with encrypted local store for deniability of liability for whatever happens to be there (u dedicate some store to the collective, basically)08:02
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cycommojo: like the borg :)08:02
cycommojo: What OSs does it runinmificate on?08:03
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mojocycom: I am VERY interested in promoting darknet/alter-net, and free mesh wireless networks08:03
mojocycom: ha ha08:03
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mojocycom: Linux08:03
kYotiKcafuego_,  what is the gtk-devel package? whats it called do you know?08:03
cycommojo: only?08:03
cafuego_cycom: it's java, runs on whatever java runs on.08:03
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intelikeysambagirl yes it is normal, if you have cdrom(s) as sources and what you are installing "including any deps" can be found there.08:04
ZeZuhaha08:04
cafuego_kYotiK: 'apt-cache search gtk dev' is your friend.08:04
cycomcafuego_: ah HA!08:04
ZeZui have a file named ~ in my user directory08:04
ZeZuhow can  i mv it so it has a diff name ?08:04
cafuego_ZeZu: mv \~ foo08:04
ZeZuthx08:04
intelikeyor quote it.08:05
mojocycom: http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/08:05
naliothcafuego_: will infobot info help me?08:05
mojocycom: these are open source projects08:05
cafuego_nalioth: Nah, blootbot is just broken.08:05
mojocycom: http://freenetproject.org08:05
naliothgreat08:05
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cafuego_nalioth: Install, edit the postinst script (make it exist immediately) then set up the DB by hand, edit the cfg files.08:06
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cafuego_nalioth: coz the postinst is eeeeevil!08:06
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mojocycom: http://mnetproject.org/intro08:07
cycommojo: Thanks!08:07
jmhodgesok, yep, its a totem xine problem.. hmm08:07
mojocycom: http://freehaven.net/anonbib/topic.html - anonymity bibliography08:07
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mojocycom: only a couple more, b r b08:07
jmhodgesbut now that i switched over to totem-g, changed the hue, then switched back.. it works08:07
jmhodgeswtf08:07
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mojocycom: oh, no prob.  told ya i'm intrerested in promoting the ideas08:07
cycommojo: that seems like an awesome idea, but a double edged sword.08:07
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jmhodgesbut the sliders in totem-xine are totally disconnected08:08
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mojocycom: http://6sxoyfb3h2nvok2d.onion/tor/FrontPage is the Hidden Wikki, running over TOR (eff.org)08:08
woodwizzleAnyone using breezy get live queries in beagle to work?08:08
dmacdonald111ain't there a lot of people here.08:08
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cycommojo: I was hoping to create an on campus site at my college for linux distros for people to try and download08:09
Trashcananyone know of a nix codec for WMA?08:09
mojocycom: that would be an awesome project08:09
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cafuego_Trashcan: Not for WMA9.08:09
Trashcanbah08:09
Trashcanok08:09
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Trashcanthanks08:10
Trashcan<-- entire music collection (286gb) in wma :)08:10
aftertafouch08:10
mojocycom: finally found last one, http://tor.eff.org/ (duh!)08:10
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dmacdonald111is wma smaller than ogg?08:11
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Trashcannot sure08:11
mojocycom: dbl edged sword?08:11
naliothdmacdonald111: wma is evil08:11
cafuego_dmacdonald111: I believe so. I also think they sound worse08:11
mojocycom: like freedom of speech?  (ya gotta let the spch u dont like too)08:11
dmacdonald111I've just been reading about it on the forum. ogg is smaller than mp3 and better quality.08:12
mouadoes anyone here use easy ubuntu after a fresh install ?08:12
dmacdonald111At least I know what all those files are now :)08:12
Trashcani prefer ogg over mp308:12
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cafuego_I prefer what my player can play.08:12
Trashcanbut my ripping software, and mp3 player, don't support ogg08:12
c0pyay 2 days08:12
intelikey /cycle08:12
cycommojo: no, I mean like people could abuse it08:12
mojoTrashcan: me too.  patent free is the way to be.  likewise FLAC over SHN08:12
cycommojo: but I'd rather have it abused than eliminated08:13
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mouamp3 is a very old format... but it's now universal. Almost everything with the capacity to play digital sounds can play mp308:13
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Trashcani absolutely do NOT like patented formats- that's like saying you have to pay a fee to write in italian08:13
dmacdonald111why ogg though? Did they think of the future? - 'ooh! I'm getting an ogg player for christmas' - and the like. lol08:13
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mojocycom: what can't ppl abuse?  honestly.  ppls will find ways to communicate.  but it is neighborly to help make it easier.  the future always lies in the shadow of regulation/control/censorship08:13
HrdwrBobdmacdonald111: ogg is 'free'08:13
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cycommojo: exactly08:13
mojocycom: namaste!08:14
dmacdonald111ah! Makes sense!08:14
mouafree is not enouth HrdwrBob :/08:14
cycommojo?08:14
mojocycom: (sanskrit word for meeting of the minds08:14
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mojocycom: (sanskrit word for meeting of the minds and a salutation08:14
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cycommojo: but yeah, my concern is that my college will see it as 'file sharing' and be irritated, but I think they may have to suck it up.08:15
DShepherddmacdonald111:   Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and streaming technology with all the benefits of Open Source08:15
cycommojo: where abouts you from?08:15
dmacdonald111All this new technology. tut! I dunno. Still trying to work out the bl**dy dvd player08:15
mojocycom: oh, i see.  well how could that be for ur project?  ur only doing distro sampling, no?08:15
dmacdonald111I really must find out more about this open source millarky. Sounds interesting08:16
erickJust to ask if used ubuntu for server purposes08:16
mojocycom: i live in middle tennessee, as of recently.  i spent 20 years near saint louis, and a few years up in minnesota (pre-teen)08:16
intelikeymillarky dmacdonald111 ?08:16
naliothintelikey: malarkey in some places08:16
dmacdonald111lol. Millarky - stuff08:16
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HrdwrBobmoua: it's free and better08:17
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mouaDShepherd : AAC (and AAC+ and eAAC+) are many more used in this case08:17
HrdwrBobmoua: however if you have an mp3 player08:17
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HrdwrBobit is of no use to you08:17
dmacdonald111it's like a funny way to say damn thing! - with a sense of humour kind of thing. Well, that's what I use it for anyhoo. lol08:17
Yawgmoth7I think htat dpkg is screwed up08:17
Yawgmoth7I can install anything08:17
Yawgmoth7I always get this error:08:18
dmacdonald111I'm going to change08:18
navyndmacdonald111, but it won't play in your cd/mp3 player08:18
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cycommojo: yeah.  That doesn't affect my idea.  But I'm also interested in running a free file distribution system.  The problem is that they would probobly mix music and movies in with the legit free stuff08:18
Yawgmoth7dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory08:18
cycommojo: I live in Connecticut.  I'm originally from Mississippi.08:18
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Myrttisponk08:18
cycombut I only lived there for about 6 month before we moved up here.08:18
Yawgmoth7And that is right after it starts to configure the packages08:18
dmacdonald111yeah, but you could get around that navyn I think. I don't know how everything works (or anything) but it seems to me, that if you could build a computer system from the ground up, a little player shouldn't be too much of a problem.08:18
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erickGuys can I used ubuntu for my email server? I used postfix and openwebmail08:19
dmacdonald111ah!08:19
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foXgamers'beta!08:19
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cycomawright.  Time for bed.  it's 2 in the morning and I have a trig quiz tomorrow08:19
mojodmacdonald111: if u r havin probs with DVDs, you probably need the dvddecss library to remove the CSS scramble that the proprietary-information folks at the movie companies and the drive mfg's put in there to keep you from reading it w/o their blessing08:19
erickcycom gudluck08:19
intelikeyhowto jail(chroot) a user at login ?08:19
mojofoXgamer: (was dmacdonald111) - there is a place where free/nonfree software is touching you08:20
foXgamermojo: er, I have been having problems with playing dvd's, but I haven't mentioned it. Are you pyschic?08:20
ZeZuwhere are the source code packages for ubuntu ?08:20
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cycomerick: thanks!08:20
Slaj_Rquestion:08:21
foXgamertouching me? eugh! get it off! get it off! ah!08:21
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erickcycom what course you are taking08:21
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ZeZujust linux-source *08:21
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ZeZu?08:22
Slaj_RIn the "how to configure wireless cards with Broadcom chipsets" tutorial, is the "for...do...done" routine to be entered as one single statement?08:22
naliothZeZu: cdimage.ubuntu.com08:22
Slaj_RAnyone?08:22
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cycomerick: trig 119.  I got to skip math 099 and 101 because of my placement test.08:23
sQhow do i create a shortcut to an app on gnome panel?08:23
cycomerick: a quick step ahead so I can start computer science.08:23
sambagirlwhat is apache geronimo?08:23
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sambagirlsome contest?08:24
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mojofoXgamer: no, i was reading you as dmacdonald111 and you mentioned it08:24
ZeZuhow can i disable DRM ?08:24
erickGuys when I boot on floppy and select option 1 that support cdrom I got this error PCI READ CONFIGURATION FAILURE, I replace my IDE cable and still i got this error, I want to boot on cdrom, what do you think is problem08:25
intelikeycomment it out in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will work ZeZu08:25
ZeZuok08:25
mojofoXgamer: You said... All this new technology. tut! I dunno. Still trying to work out the bl**dy dvd player08:26
Slaj_Ranyone have a quick answer:  is "for...do...done" at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 all entered in one statement at the prompt, or separated by cr's?08:26
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Razor-Xhave the hoary repos stopped being worked on?08:26
Slaj_RInstructions are vague.08:26
foXgamermojo: oh! I mean the one attached to the telly. lol. Don't worry. My humour takes a lot to get used to :)08:26
SuseUXok, I really like OO.o208:26
naliothsQ: /msg ubotu smeg08:27
erickcycom you mean to say that you are in highschool level08:27
foXgamerI am having problems playing on the computer though. I don't seem to be able to find a css file that works on 64bit though08:27
SuseUXgnome icons and gtk+08:27
benplautanyone know how to make OOo2 auto-double space at start of sentence?08:27
cycomerick: no, that's college level.08:27
cycomerick: freshman college.08:27
propagandhiSlaj_R: enter all on one line08:27
janshi ace08:27
cycomerick: trig is a cakewalk, but I need it for comp sci08:28
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Slaj_Rthanks, prop.08:28
intelikeySlaj_R if you enter a for statement on the command line you use ";" simicolen to seperate the parts of it.    "for this in blah ;do that to $this ;done"08:28
erickcycom K, yes I remember, trigo thats my favorite subject when Im on college level08:28
Trashcan<-- highschool08:28
Slaj_Rthen it seems there's a missing semicolon.08:28
Slaj_RIs that an accurate assessment?08:28
Razor-XI'm in high school as well08:28
Trashcan<offtopic> what year?08:29
cycomerick: I took AP stat in highschool.  Easy, but boooooooriing.08:29
Slaj_RI want to make sure I've got it right.  My finger's hovering over 'enter'08:29
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janshi08:29
Razor-Xcycom: AP Stats is a waste of time, i'm not going to waste my brains on that :P08:29
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cycomRazor-X: Amen brother!08:29
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erickcycom yeah I know but it is a part of the curriculum, any course08:29
Razor-Xalthough, I will be finished by all math courses (AP and not) by Junior-year summer08:30
logikal_Can kaffiene play embedded video?08:30
propagandhiSlaj_R: in that same thread theres a mod to that command, instead of that do this sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf08:30
Razor-Xnot quite sure what'll happen then08:30
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cycomerick: I shoulda taken calc.08:30
Razor-Xcycom: what are you going to major in?08:31
Slaj_Rpropagandhi:  That replaces the whole command?08:31
propagandhiyes08:31
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propagandhibut u need to run it with sudo08:31
daxxarIf I want to configure my moniter in Xorg properly, what do I need? I can only find one herz-range (50-90Hz), but I seem to need two?08:32
cycomRazor-X: comp sci and mech engineering.  Hopefully dual major.  Robotics is the goal.08:32
janshi08:32
Slaj_Rokay, so "sudo <what you posted>"?08:32
Razor-Xcycom: doesen't everyone go into Comp Sci? :P08:32
janshi08:32
Razor-Xcycom: my dad's a mechanical engineer, so, meh08:32
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marckbohol08:32
cycomRazor-X: I love computers, and I love machines.  Robotics seems logical.08:32
daxxarI wonder if the Cybernetics study is any fun (:08:32
Razor-Xcycom: boring stuff to me, hoping to major in pure mathematics, and if I feel so inclined as to pursue engineering, electrical engineering08:32
Razor-Xcomputers are nice as a hobby, but, a hobby is where it'll stay08:33
Razor-Xwow, #ubuntu is a lot quieter than before08:33
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ZeZuwhat version of xorg does  breezy use ?08:33
janshi08:34
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HJJHHHELLOOW08:34
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Slaj_Rpropagandhi:  Should that command have returned a long list of settings?08:34
HJJHHUR BOY08:34
katzorZeZu 6.8.2-7408:34
naliothHJJHH: did you have an ubuntu question?08:35
propagandhiSlaj_R: no, it should have updated text in config files08:35
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xukunI installed ubuntu on xp laptop on a other partion but I get the massege hal.dll is missing if I try to boot to xp. any idea's?08:35
janshi08:35
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Slaj_Rpropagandhi:  It spat out a bunch of text.08:36
KlinkMeisterI use Ubuntu, but a friend wants Vista, is there a channel about it here?08:36
cycomRazor-X: it's amazing how fast a hobby can turn into a career.08:36
propagandhiSlaj_R: private message the text08:36
Razor-Xcycom: meh08:36
Razor-Xcycom: well, I find math way more interesting than computers even, so... :P08:36
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cycomRazor-X: and I bet it was a hobby as well!08:36
nocturnHi guys08:37
propagandhixukun: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm08:37
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Slaj_Rpropagandhi:  hope you don't mind, there's a lot.08:37
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Slaj_RI assume it's a confirmation of the output.08:37
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erickanyone familiar with pxes thin client08:38
propagandhiSlaj_R: most probably08:38
Hendricwhy can't i access my floppy?? "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" this is a fresh install breezy.. how can i fix it?08:38
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Slaj_RThen I'm not concerned yet.  I'm gonna try rebooting and see if it worked.  Wish me luck...08:38
Razor-Xcycom: of course it's a hobby08:38
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Razor-Xcycom: I pursue higher math than my school's crappy career-based system allows me to take08:38
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cycomRazor-X: which is why it should be your career!08:39
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Hendricany help?08:39
erickHendric is your floppy mounted08:39
Hendricit is in Computer:///08:39
ericktry this mount /mnt/floppy08:39
Hendricif i double click the icon to access it.. it gives out the error08:39
marckhi08:39
nocturnerick: I've used it out of interest a couple of times08:40
B|4ckm0r3Hi all!I've a little problem with alsa driver, i have an asus a7v8x-x with onboard audio and coaxial output(spdif)!It used to work but since 2 weeks i can't use spdif output!08:40
Hendricerick, that's wat im doing.. but this floppy is working fine in hoary... i just double click its icon in the Computer:///08:40
benplautanyone know how to make OOo2 auto-double space at start of sentence?08:40
ericktry access it through cmd line like this /mnt/floppy08:40
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Hendricerick, i can access it that way.. i just want it to work like normal08:41
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erickwhat version you are using08:41
malvi must say, breezy is working great08:41
marckhi08:41
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Hendricim on breezy.. a fresh install.. it should support floppies out of the box.. like in hoary08:41
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cantona_checking for FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden... no08:42
cantona_ how can I enable this for libXft208:42
malvwhen I plugged in a flash drive and it just appeared on desktop -- that was divine08:42
marckhii08:42
marckjjj08:42
B|4ckm0r3is there a way to reconfigure alsa driver?08:42
marckeee08:42
RANGELHO U?08:42
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nocturnerick: None at the moment.  I played with it when my systems were running mandrake08:43
B|4ckm0r3i've noticed that something changed in alsamixer...08:43
marckhi08:43
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marckbohol08:43
DukGalNamui left for a couple of days to find my computer off, any reason why ubuntu would just shut down like that?08:43
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liablepowercut?08:43
naliothDukGalNamu: check your memory modules08:43
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DukGalNamunalioth: too late08:44
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sammywow ubuntu is awesome08:44
RANGELHO ?08:44
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sammyfirst linux ive been able to use for more than 3 hours08:44
DukGalNamunalioth: don't i have to do that with UBD or something of the like08:44
DukGalNamu?08:44
naliothRANGEL: did you have an ubuntu question?08:44
maestrohi all08:44
naliothDukGalNamu: i believe memtest is available at your boot screen08:44
marckhi08:44
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marckhi08:45
B|4ckm0r3nalioth: please help me!i've this sound issue and i'm going crazy!08:45
DukGalNamunalioth: in either case, my computer doesn't sound all to well08:45
naliothmarck: did you have an ubuntu question?08:45
RANGELNO? WER U?08:45
Slaj_RHallelujiah!  By golly, ndiswrapper is working.  I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for the help.08:45
DukGalNamunalioth: is it possible that the hard drive has suffered a fatal error or the CPU over heated?08:45
Slaj_RNow if I could just get my "mute" button working...08:45
RANGELNALIOTH08:46
naliothDukGalNamu: i'd go memory checking first, then check your internal cooling situation08:46
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: what sort?08:46
naliothRANGEL: may i help you?08:46
DukGalNamunalioth: i know it runs hot, my cpu tends to go over 60 C08:46
naliothDukGalNamu: heat kills08:46
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TrashcanDukGalNamu: most likely is either memory, overheating, or drivers08:46
RANGELyes08:46
kYotiKhow do i schedule a job an app to run every so many minutes?  i gdipc to run every minute so that my dynamic DNS stays fresh on my server.. does anyone know what i need to do?08:46
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: it's strange but alsa stopped to work correctly!so i can't use my spdif (but analogic output works)08:46
DukGalNamuTrashcan: drivers or drives?08:46
naliothkYotiK: open a term and type "man cron"08:47
Trashcandrivers08:47
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: cat /proc/asound/modules08:47
DukGalNamuand if it was memory then wouldn'08:47
DukGalNamut08:47
kYotiKnalioth: i have tried cron and it says something is locked08:47
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DukGalNamuit have shown up earlier?08:47
naliothkYotiK: use sudo08:47
RANGELwer u know?08:47
Trashcanmy soundcard driver tends to cause a hard reboot from time to time (maybe once a year) on XP08:47
kYotiKi did08:47
Trashcandunno if it works the same on linux, but I'm sure its possible08:47
DukGalNamuTrashcan: this isn't XP08:47
naliothRANGEL: general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic08:47
B|4ckm0r30 snd_via82xx08:48
B|4ckm0r31 snd_mpu40108:48
DukGalNamuTrashcan: and XP tends to cause a hard reboot from time to time regardless08:48
RANGELhow can i find?08:48
naliothDukGalNamu: i'd check the memory and cooling situation first08:48
naliothRANGEL: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic08:48
nocturn /part08:48
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naliothRANGEL: what language do you speak?08:48
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: 0 snd_via82xx 1 snd_mpu40108:49
DukGalNamunalioth: yeah i suppose i will, but dang.... this sucks, i almost had it back up to 30 days uptime08:49
B|4ckm0r3that's all08:49
naliothDukGalNamu: i've given up on uptime til breezy gets out a month or two08:49
foXgamer19th November 1994. <sigh>08:49
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:49
DukGalNamunalioth: all well, my gentoo system is more than stable enough, although the hardware is questionable :P08:50
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RANGELcan u speak visayan?08:50
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ZeZui dont know why i waste so much time08:50
ZeZui always end up back on windows08:50
ZeZuwhat is the point08:50
DukGalNamuZeZu: why?08:50
ZeZudamn ati drivers never work08:51
DukGalNamuZeZu: had the same danged problem08:51
ZeZui've tried every setting i and many other people can think of08:51
ZeZuand even editted sc08:51
ZeZurebuilt08:51
RANGELwer  your residence?08:51
ZeZunothing helps08:51
DukGalNamuZeZu: best thing you can do is just stop buying from ATI till they offer better linux support08:51
ZeZusure, that doesnt help me now tho08:51
naliothRANGEL: please join #ubuntu-offtopic, and i'll be happy to talk with you there about my residence08:52
ZeZustill leaves me having no 3d suport in linux08:52
DukGalNamuZeZu: you can get a cheap nvidia card for about 6008:52
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/298508:52
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ZeZubut why do i want a cheap card in my system when i have a good card ?08:52
RANGELcan i have ur cel no.?08:52
ZeZuit makes no sense08:52
ZeZui play games and write a lot of opengl stuff08:52
DukGalNamuZeZu: it will outproform the ATI on linux08:52
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ZeZubut not on windows, and i have doubts i will ever completely discard win08:53
Hendrici mounted /dev/fd0 to a directory.. but how can i make it writable????08:53
ZeZui need shaders08:53
MadpilotZeZu: which ATI card do you own?08:53
ZeZu9800 pro08:53
DukGalNamuZeZu: i have an mx400, and it is only half as fast as my 9800 pro08:53
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RANGELwat your language used?08:53
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: did you change any settings or dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy recently?08:53
ZeZuhalf is half08:53
DukGalNamuZeZu: the mx4000 should be more than capable of blowing the 9800 pro out of the water08:53
DukGalNamuZeZu: the mx4000 is about 60 right now08:53
ZeZu?08:54
RANGELim from bohol.08:54
ZeZusomething about that didn't make sense08:54
RANGELu?08:54
DukGalNamuZeZu: pay attention to the 0's08:54
MadpilotZeZu: I've got a 9600XT, and it runs fine; the fglrx drivers should work for the 9800 as well08:54
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: yes i dist-upgraded when the release candidate was released and this problem came 1 week later more or less!08:54
naliothRANGEL: please join #ubuntu-offtopic.  #ubuntu is for ubuntu help08:54
ZeZuah08:54
eben123yahoo.com08:54
ZeZuMadpilot, they dont08:54
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ZeZuor it could be an issue w/ my agp08:55
ZeZubut my agp is fully supported08:55
ZeZuso i dont know08:55
DukGalNamuZeZu: yeah it was hell getting my 9800 pro to work08:55
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ZeZubut you did get it to work ?08:55
DukGalNamuZeZu: and when i did i only got 3k FPS08:55
DukGalNamuZeZu: somehow08:55
orkowhats the difference between a .deb and a .udeb?08:55
ZeZuhmm08:55
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ZeZui have tried patching the source to the driver (and a few other things)08:55
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: not immediately after you dist-upgraded?08:55
ZeZuyou dont happen to remember what you did to get it working ?08:56
erickneed help. my machine doesn't support boot in cdrom I used boot on floppy and choose the first option that is with cdrom support but still I have no luck and get this error PCI READ CONFIGURATION FAILURE08:56
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: i'm not shure...!do you think it's related to breezy upgrade?08:56
DukGalNamuZeZu: now my mx400 ( four hundred) gets half of that, with half the memory less tahn a quater the price (now) and its older than snot08:56
TrashcanDukGalNamu : the ati drivers don't run the 9800 pro off the bat?08:56
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DukGalNamuTrashcan: nope08:57
Trashcanweak08:57
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: yes08:57
ericki will install ubuntu on my 486 machine08:57
Trashcanguess running ubuntu on my pc wouldn't do much better than on this lappy08:57
RANGELcan ihave your cel no.?08:57
ZeZuyes on windows it will not have anywhere near the same performance tho08:57
Trashcancan't find a single working driver that supports the rage mobility08:57
ZeZuand the 9800 will probably beat the mx4k as well08:57
DukGalNamuTrashcan: then i popped an old nvidia into a gentoo system and got the drivers working almost immediatly, plus X was working before that08:57
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: there's something to do?08:57
Trashcanwould be nice to at least have smooth window resizing :\08:57
mcquaidhello, i'm trying to set up the nvidia bin in my custom kern, i've done it many times without issue but now the nvidia driver is stating i'm trying to compile the driver with one different than the one the kernel was compiled with08:58
ZeZui'm not up to date on that stuff but mx are cheaper cards08:58
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crimsunB|4ckm0r3: do this: in a Terminal, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx08:58
ZeZuuse older gpus etc08:58
mcquaidhow do i set the cc environment variable?08:58
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crimsunB|4ckm0r3: then unmute Master, PCM, and the two IEC958 elements08:58
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DukGalNamuZeZu: true, but the linux drivers are more effective than the windows ones08:58
Hendrichow d i mount a floppy drive which is writable... mount /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy mounts it readonly... pls help08:58
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: you'll need to adjust the volumes then.08:58
ZeZufor nvidia cards08:58
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: let me know if that resolves the issue08:58
naliothmcquaid: export cc=/usr/bin/gcc-<version>08:58
mcquaidok thx08:59
naliothmcquaid: maybe the cc should be CC08:59
DukGalNamuZeZu: yes, ati are weak on both in my estimation, they got the hardware, but their drivers suck08:59
mcquaidnalioth, before i do that how do i see what it's currently set to?08:59
ZeZuindeed08:59
gefbalsanyone can help me with my Canon LBP-800?08:59
naliothmcquaid: type gcc --version08:59
mcquaidwhen i do gcc --version i get 4.008:59
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: it tells me that i cant remove asound.state:permission denied (i sudoed)08:59
mcquaiddid it use that version to compile the kernel?08:59
Hendrichow d i mount a floppy drive which is writable... mount /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy mounts it readonly... pls help08:59
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ZeZuanyways, i probably wont be getting a new gfx card for a while, so i guess i'll head back to wintendo... i've tried to fix this more than once on like three diff. distros09:00
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: did you sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state?09:00
ZeZui rather like ubuntu too09:00
dustigroove mount -w /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy09:00
Madpilotgefbals: is that a camera, a printer, or what?09:00
DukGalNamuZeZu: i put that old GPU into my older system and actually experienced a slow down (the nvidia card) but on my linux system, there is a definate marked proformance.09:00
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: yes i did it!now i've removed it09:00
DukGalNamuZeZu: and because of that i will only buy nvidia09:00
gefbalsMadpilot: a printer...09:01
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ZeZuyea i'm sure my next card will be nv09:01
ZeZubut that is then09:01
gefbalsMadpilot: i cant print ....09:01
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DukGalNamuZeZu: and of course i learn all of this AFTER getting a 250 dollar GPU09:01
ZeZuthis is now, no new gfx cards until i get a whole new pc09:01
mcquaidi was getting this error before, and thought it would go away once i compiled the kernel09:01
Trashcansame zezu09:01
mcquaidassuming that they'd both use the new gcc09:01
Madpilot!tell gefbals about printers09:01
ZeZuif you dont use it then there is no real point09:01
duncanmanyone using SCIM on breezy here?09:01
ZeZui use mine ;)09:01
gefbalsHendric: just look this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8039.html09:01
duncanmit segfaults when i start scim-setup09:01
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Trashcanhaving a 6800 or x800 is pretty silly considering i still use an AMD 2000+09:02
ZeZuanyways unless someone has some suggestions i'm going to bed09:02
aftertafmcquaid:  it foes that a lot..... thats why if you can use a standard kernel and the nvidia drivers in the restricted modules package for the kernel it is easier.09:02
DukGalNamuZeZu: like i said, you get a cheaper nvidia card and it will outproform the windows version of the same card and some of the better ones09:02
aftertafmcquaid:  the same binary that you get from nvidia website is in the retricted mods package for the kernel.09:02
duncanmopen("/home/duncan/.scim/chinese/pinyin_table", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:02
duncanmread(13, "SCIM_Pinyin_Table_BINARY\nVERSION"..., 8191) = 819109:02
duncanm--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---09:02
Madpilotgefbals: check the msg ubotu sent you; those two URLs are very useful...09:02
duncanmhmm09:02
DukGalNamuZeZu: but if thats the route you wanna go i understand, i will actually do the same thing09:02
ZeZuyea i'm not going to replace a 9800 pro w/ something that doesn't have shaders hehe09:03
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: it doesn't work :09:03
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gefbalsMadpilot: k tnx...09:03
ZeZuanyways cya, thx for the help guys09:03
Trashcanlater09:03
dustigrooveanyone aware of a script (or can whip one up) that will allow you to choose between "play" and "rip" when you insert a cd?09:03
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blackwhiteHi, at work, some sites/pages on the internet are being blocked. How can i overcome this?09:04
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blackwhite<I'm on windows XP by the way>09:04
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: are you using the correct output? (plug:spdif) ?09:04
crimsun(or plug:iec958)09:04
DukGalNamublackwhite: tell you boss about it09:05
DukGalNamu*your09:05
Trashcanhehe09:05
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: where can i see?09:05
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: just test it with aplay and a wav file (read the man page)09:05
blackwhitewhat's the solution to being auto-blocked to some sites/pages09:05
Trashcanblackwhite: you can't unless you know what you're doing. they are probably being blocked for a reason09:05
dustigrooveblackwhite: google "web proxy"... try the-cloak.com09:06
blackwhiteTrashcan: i can't overcome it? I don't know wthat to do, but I'm willing to try.09:06
DukGalNamublackwhite: hack into your router and disable the parental controls :P09:06
Trashcanseems like a weird question to ask in a linux channel considering you're on windows, too09:06
blackwhitedustigroove: i tried the-cloak.com. I get the "This page is being blocked" message even when I use that website.09:06
Trashcanblackwhite: what page are you trying to visit, exactly?09:06
blackwhiteTrashcan: some pages on google for instance.09:07
tristanmikeblackwhite, don't risk getting fired over a website09:07
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Trashcanno kidding.09:07
cafuego_duncanm: sloppy coding09:07
blackwhitetristanmike: i think that the blocking is not specific to some websites. I think they are using some software to just block stuff generally.09:07
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duncanmcafuego_: oh?09:08
da_bon_bonhi all09:08
duncanmcafuego_: it used to work okay in hoary09:08
duncanmcafuego_: and i think the version in breezy is quite old09:08
da_bon_boncrimsun: the "stupid java" problem was easily solved by man update-alternatives :)09:08
tristanmikeblackwhite, then perhaps you should bring it up with management if it's valid09:08
Trashcanaye09:08
crimsunda_bon_bon: excellent.09:08
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blackwhitei want to try to solve it on my own first09:09
cafuego_duncanm: it's failing to open "pinyin_table" (the fd returned is -1) and then somehow reads from fd #13.09:09
da_bon_bonwhy is ubuntu trying to use an open java stack ?09:09
taliosevening crabstic09:09
talioser crimsun09:09
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: aplay -D iec958  this worked!we're near the solution ^__^09:09
Trashcanblackwhite: then hack the box your work line proxies through and shut down the parental controls09:09
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blackwhiteTrashcan: is there no way to just replace the proxy info?09:10
tristanmikeblackwhite, I work in management and my advice would be to let them know before you go messing with their computers. Otherwise this sounds like something for #ubuntu-offtopic09:10
Trashcanthe router you are connected to would be connecting through the proxy, so no09:10
Madpilotgefbals: not good news, but here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-LBP-80009:11
Trashcanand yes- this is an offtopic issue09:11
Hendricdamn floppy.. only allows root to right...09:11
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LePoulpe303hi all09:12
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gefbalsMadpilot: yah...09:12
mojoQUESTION: hi i got a weird problem... my DEL key stopped doing anything.  It shows in xev okay, other kbds make no diff, but X does not seem to respond to it (X.Org).  any ideas?09:13
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mojoALSO: The DEL on Num-pad works fine (when numlock off, of course ;-)09:13
Hendrichow can i make this floppy drive writable by users. not root only??09:13
mojoHendric: maybe permissions on the device file in /dev ?  just guessing09:14
gefbalsMadpilot: i already try this but it doesnt work with XP thing....my active directory service for windows 2000 is damage ....09:14
LePoulpe303i have a lot of refresh problem using builtin vnc clone .... anyone knows how to fix that ?09:14
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Hendricleme try09:14
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: how can i force ubuntu to use iec958 output?09:14
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: by default?09:14
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: yes09:15
da_bon_bonanyone update from hoary to breezy found that "About Ubuntu" is system menu wont work anymore ?09:15
crimsunB|4ckm0r3: in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, choose customsink, then in the box below that type: alsasink device=iec95809:15
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da_bon_bonor is it "my problem" only ?09:15
tristanmikeda_bon_bon, see if yelp is installed?09:16
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da_bon_bontristanmike: actually, the error is about wrong url09:16
da_bon_bonTe Uniform Resource Identifier ghelp:about-ubuntu is invalid or does not point to an actual file.09:16
da_bon_bon*The09:16
orkoi have a haory cd installer mounted as a loop. i've replace a udeb package and now i need to rebuil tthe iso and burn a cd. anyone know what options i need for mkisofs and cdrecord so it actually boots?09:16
tristanmikeda_bon_bon, I use Hoary, and that became an issue, yelp solved it if I remember correctly, sorry09:17
da_bon_bonorko: why are you trying to install hoary ? wait for breezy.09:17
naliothda_bon_bon: it doesnt work for me either09:17
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da_bon_bonnalioth: yay! i aint alone /:)09:17
naliothda_bon_bon: i expect it will be fixed within 4 days09:17
da_bon_bonnalioth: and in the ubuntu faq guide, none of the "exmaple XX.conf" works, right ?09:18
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: i've done it (and test works) but gnome still doesn't use it!Should i reboot alsa driver (or pc?)09:18
da_bon_bonnalioth: you mean two days09:18
orkoda_bon_bon: no choice, breezy crashes on boot and I had to replace the aacraid driver09:18
da_bon_bonoh ok, orko09:18
naliothda_bon_bon: i have no clue, i haven't used it09:18
orkoim all set - i just need to mkisofs the installer cd tree, then cdrecord the image. I did it once but the cd wasn't bootable..09:18
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crimsunB|4ckm0r3: you'll probably need to uncheck the Enable Sound Server Startup in System> Preferences> Sound09:18
da_bon_bonorko: i think cdrecord has option, if you provide the boot image.09:19
da_bon_bonorko: to get the boot image, use "barts boot image extractor"09:19
bam_does anyone know how I can change the prompt in console09:19
blackwhiteguys, oh, i just had to update the proxy info from the work's default web browser (IE) to mine (Fx). Thanks everybody!!!09:19
blackwhite I love ubuntu.09:19
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blackwhitelooking forward to breezy in 2 days.09:20
logikal_guys09:20
logikal_How do i create a new folder?09:20
vengefulmkdir foldername09:20
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Trashcanmkdir09:20
blackwhiteWhat time exactly does breezy become officially released ?09:20
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jipihi folks, anyway we can get eclipse into amd64 these two days?09:20
naliothlogikal_: right click09:20
ericklogicak where do you wnat to create folders09:20
da_bon_bonblackwhite: /topic :) 13th oct09:20
blackwhiteWhat time on the 14th?09:20
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: i've unchecked it!now should i reboot?09:20
blackwhiteda_bon_bon: I know that. I asked for the time.09:20
logikal_I want to create a folder in09:20
Madpilotblackwhite: when it's finished on the 13th, I think09:21
logikal_/usr/local/share/mplayer/09:21
logikal_I want to create a folder called skin09:21
bam_mkdir09:21
blackwhiteMadpilot: how do i know when EXACTLY i can start the upgrade process?09:21
Trashcansudo mkdir /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin09:21
tristanmikebam_, this may be what you're looking for http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3124709:21
vengefulsudo mkdir /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin09:21
da_bon_bonblackwhite: blackwhite What time on the 14th?09:21
Madpilotlogikal_: sudo mkdir09:21
vengefulhehe09:21
aftertafblackwhite:  it will never be 10000% free of bugs anyway.....09:21
ericktry this mkdir /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin09:21
logikal_Thank you all 932 of you that helped me09:22
logikal_lol09:22
vengeful;-)09:22
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crimsunB|4ckm0r3: just log out of and back into GNOME09:22
Madpilotlogikal_: easy questions are like raw meat to sharks, you attract a crowd... ;)09:22
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logikal_LOl09:23
aftertaflolm09:23
logikal_Want a non-easy one?09:23
foXgamerAnyone know if openoffice Math program actually solves problems or is it just to make the forumlae look nice?09:23
vengefuland its rare i can answer a question09:23
naliothvengeful: that will change09:23
B|4ckm0r3ok tnx09:23
vengefulsure will...pick up loads of useful info here09:23
logikal_Ok09:24
logikal_here's another one09:24
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logikal_when i try to extract the file09:25
logikal_it says I dont have permission09:25
vengefulsudo again09:25
vengefulmaybe09:26
logikal_how can i extract it in the terminal with sudo?09:26
logikal_Yeah but im doing it by right clicking, extract to09:26
logikal_how do i extract in terminal?09:26
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naliothlogikal_: you cant extract into system folders09:26
logikal_well I need to lol.09:26
da_bon_bonhow do i change the "schema" of gnome terminal ? i am used to konsole09:26
naliothlogikal_: the system is protecting itself09:27
logikal_Unpack the archive and put the contents in /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin/ or09:27
logikal_~/.mplayer/Skin/. MPlayer will use the skin in the subdirectory named default09:27
logikal_of /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin/ or ~/.mplayer/Skin/ unless told otherwise via09:27
logikal_the '-skin' switch. You should therefore rename your skin subdirectory or make09:27
logikal_a suitable symbolic link.09:27
Belutzi got this error: unable to lookup <machinename> via gethostbyname(), what should i do?09:27
logikal_sorry!09:27
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foXgamerlogikal_: If you don't have permission, type sudo -s    You will then be asked for your password and then you will have permission09:27
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logikal_sorry about that, I thought it would be one line.09:27
foXgamerlogikal_: If you don't have permission, type sudo -s    You will then be asked for your password and then you will have permission09:27
naliothlogikal_: the 'mv' or 'cp' command is your friend09:27
aftertafBelutz:  have you changed your PC's name?09:29
aftertafor Belutz habe you changed hosts file?09:29
Belutzaftertaf, no09:29
Belutzaftertaf, yes i change the hosts file09:29
vengefulnalioth, any idea with this? http://pastebin.com/389883    trying to help a friend with debian problems09:29
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naliothvengeful: what are y'all tryin to do?09:30
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logikal_foXgamer,09:30
vengefulnaolith it happened during the night..after that error in log the system is unwriteable09:30
logikal_How do i extract in the terminal? I dont know how..09:31
B|4ckm0r3crimsun: it wasn't the "enable sound server at startup"!i've muted the iec958 playback ac97-spsa and now it works perfectly!!09:31
naliothvengeful: is the system still up?09:31
vengefulyes09:31
vengefuljust cant write to it09:31
Blejdfisthardware problem09:31
Blejdfisti have that too09:31
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foXgamerwhat is the extension of the file you are trying to install logikal?09:31
vengefulyeh i thought hdd on last legs09:31
tristanmikelogikal_, do you mean like a .bz2?09:31
logikal_Yep..09:31
aftertafBelutz:  there you go..... your change is wrong09:31
Blejdfisti have a cronjob that activate DMA :)09:31
logikal_one secon09:31
logikal_d09:31
Blejdfisthdparm -d1 /dev/???09:31
aftertafBelutz:  change it back...... what did you change/remove?09:31
logikal_tar:/home/logikal/standard-1.9.tar.bz2/09:32
brownie17who knows anything about gnutella? do limewire and Amule use the same network? if so, then why does aMule turn up about 50000000000 times more sources and results?09:32
vengefulhdparm -d1 /dev/???   , so i should try that?09:32
Blejdfistyou should make a backup and replace the disk09:32
Belutzaftertaf, i just add another ip and name into a new line, i'll try to delete it09:32
Blejdfistvengeful: replace ??? with the actual device09:32
vengefuleh yeh got that bit :-O09:32
Blejdfistit will activate DMA again09:32
vengefulhehe09:32
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tristanmikelogikal_, tar xvjf standard-1.9.tar.bz209:32
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naliothvengeful: if you can't write to the HD, the system will fail shortly09:32
logikal_hunh?09:32
foXgamerthen you will need <tar -xjvf standard-1.0.tar.bz2> (without the <>). You need to be in the right dir, but that should work09:33
tristanmikelogikal_, the "tar" is the decompressor09:33
Belutzaftertaf, still get the same error09:33
logikal_oh09:33
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logikal_roger that!09:33
logikal_ok09:33
tristanmikelogikal_, the "j" is for .bz209:33
logikal_all that did was show me a list of the contents09:33
brownie17aftertaf, why does aMule turn up heaps more results than limewire?09:34
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tristanmikelogikal_, the "v" was for verbose, to tell you what it extracted09:34
naliothbrownie17: limewire sucks?09:35
tristanmikelogikal_, "man tar" for more info, but it should be extracted09:35
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foXgamerlogikal_: Try using the letters zxvf instead09:35
dougskobrownie17: cause its all crap, torrents are they only way to go now if want anything reliable09:35
logikal_where did it extract to09:35
tristanmikelogikal_, working directory09:35
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logikal_?09:36
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tristanmikelogikal_, if it didn't do it, try what foXgamer said09:36
brownie17nalioth, unfortunately for me i cannot open ports, so limewire is the only one i can use, because it is the only one with firewall detection i have found. do you know any others?09:36
aftertafnalioth:  could be that yeah :)09:36
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dougskobrownie17: u dont need to open ports to us torrents09:36
dougsko*use09:36
naliothbrownie17: find the port limewire uses and use another client on that port09:36
brownie17dougsko, you sure? i once tried to use bittorrent with windows and it didn't work.09:37
fekmorning09:37
foXgamermorning fek09:37
logikal_tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors09:37
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brownie17nalioth, you think that will work? ok09:37
logikal_Gave me error msg when using the letters zxvf09:37
dougskobrownie17: yeah, its just like anything else, it works better if people can connect to u, but if not, it still works09:37
naliothlogikal_: xvzf09:37
aftertaflogikal_:  try xvjf09:37
naliothlogikal_: the order is important09:37
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aftertafoh ok... yeah.09:38
dougskoget azareus, its java, so its a little slow to load, but it can accept rss feeds which is sweet09:38
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brownie17nalioth, dougsko, do you guys know any torrent clients that use uPnP?09:38
naliothbrownie17: idk what uPnP is09:39
logikal_still the same error when using xvzf09:39
dougskoi think they all do ( at least can)09:39
naliothlogikal_: see aftertaf's suggestion09:39
foXgamerlogikal_: Try here -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=259143 which explains how to unpack tar's. That should help09:39
tristanmikelogikal_, you are in the directory where the file is, right?09:39
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brownie17nalioth, it stands for universal plug and play.09:39
naliothbrownie17: i dont use windows09:39
logikal_tar: standard/exit.png: Cannot open: File exists09:40
logikal_it said that for all of them09:40
tristanmikelogikal_, "ls"09:40
brownie17nalioth, it is not a windows thing, it is a router thing09:40
naliothbrownie17: then i really dont know09:40
tristanmikelogikal_, you should have a folder of the same name as the compressed file09:40
brownie17nalioth, ok, thanks09:40
dougskobrownie17: just try azareus, or maybe bittornado, or bitcomet, it really doesnt matter, once you get away from emule and Co., you'll never go back09:40
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logikal_yes mike09:41
logikal_I've extracted it09:41
tristanmikeit worked the first time09:41
logikal_I need to get it in /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin09:41
logikal_which the problem is09:41
brownie17dougsko, is there a .deb package for azareus? is it supposed to be in the repos?09:42
logikal_I know how to extract09:42
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dougskobrownie17: i dont know, hold on09:42
tristanmikelogikal_, perhaps you should move it to the mplayer skin folder in your home directory09:42
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brownie17dougsko, know any good torrent sites?09:42
dougskoyes!09:42
Calav3raheyhey09:42
El_Chebrownie17: it's just an java app, you can download it upstream and will work after untarring the package (no install needed)09:42
brownie17El_Che, ok09:42
logikal_there is no mplayer folder in my home directory?09:43
dougskotorrentspy.com and torrentreactor.net are probly the only 2 sites youll ever need09:43
vengefulhehe machine cant even reboot09:43
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Calav3rai have problems with starting ubuntu 5.04 from a external firewire device....09:43
N6REJgo09:43
brownie17dougsko, it is supposed to be in the repos then?09:43
foXgamerlogikal_: In the menu for the file browser, make sure you have show hidden files selected. It will begin with a period (.)09:43
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tristanmikelogikal_, it may be hidden, "ls -a"09:43
dougskojust google it09:43
brownie17nalioth, i am getting an error when opening synaptic09:43
N6REJg'morning everyone09:43
brownie17nalioth, #flood?09:43
dougskoyou cant miss...09:43
logikal_Oh wait09:43
logikal_there is09:43
logikal_nevermind09:44
tristanmikelogikal_, hidden files are designated with a "./"09:44
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intelikeyi can't believe i actually installed ub again.   "is there a phyc**...in the house?"   </troll>09:44
Sherman2 days :D09:44
JaivazI just rebooted after the upgrade to Breezy and I have a problem with my moniter. The screen loads completely except that it's at least one inch to the left.. so the far right is literally completely black.09:44
foXgameryeah. took me ages to realise that when I started using linux! hehe09:44
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Calav3racan anyone help a little bit? it seems that my harddisk isnt recognized at bootup09:44
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aftertafbrownie17:  running as root? have a 2nd apt process running? borked your repos?09:44
foXgamerJaivaz: It sounds like you need to change the settings on the monitor rather than on the system. HAve you tried?09:44
logikal_ok09:45
logikal_but when i run09:45
Shermanits most likely a different refresh rate09:45
logikal_gmplayer09:45
intelikeyCalav3ra what error ?09:45
dougskoJaivaz: is yr refresh rate correct?09:45
logikal_it doesn't work..09:45
Calav3ratwo: grub error 2109:45
brownie17aftertaf, i pasted the erro in root, no other ones running, running as root, "borked"?09:45
Calav3raevery second time or more  ....often, when i bootup09:45
Jaivaz.. HAhahaha09:45
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aftertafborked is a polite way of saying f***ed09:46
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Calav3rainstallation works fine on my samsung x20 ... i read that it should work very good09:46
JaivazYes, all I needed to do was an auto-adjustment on my moniter09:46
dougskoJaivaz: did u fix it?09:46
tristanmikelogikal_, what doesn't work, the skins?09:46
JaivazYes.09:46
N6REJI have a question about setting up postfix.  In the wiki it mentions how to :  "The How-to is a step by step process in which teaches the user here to pull together a smtp-auth to the users server.  All applications and dependencies have been recommended in order to go forth with this process."  My question is, is this the best way to setup postfix to help keep it from being hijacked,...09:46
dougskoexcelent09:46
N6REJ...spam'd, etc.  &/Or is this already done when you first install postfix.  My server is nat'd so I'm not sure what I should do.09:46
foXgamerlogikal_: Have you moved the skins to the appropriate directory? You may need to reboot to enable it to pick them up09:46
logikal_The GUI mplayer all together09:46
logikal_well look here09:46
logikal_http://pastebin.com/38989109:46
logikal_that's the instructions09:46
foXgamerJaivaz: I has the same problem yesterday!09:46
logikal_All we did was put the skins in /home/logikal/mplayer***/skin/09:47
tristanmikelogikal_, then skins are pretty pointless at this stage, :P09:47
logikal_well it says09:47
dougskoman, you guys aren't on the east coast, are you?09:47
N6REJas it stands right now I can send mail fro the server but not recieve it.09:47
tristanmikeI am09:47
logikal_I just need to get GUI mplayer working..09:47
Shermanmplayer ubuntu howto: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt09:47
Shermanworks everytime for me09:48
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foXgamerI'm on the west coast!09:48
dougskohard core dude, im gonna be so fucked for class tomarrow, but damn im so sick of that shit09:48
tristanmikelogikal_, ok, you did what it says09:48
kemikSherman: mplayer is available thru apt09:48
ShermanI know kemik09:48
logikal_Thank you sherman.09:48
dougskoim ready to just burn the whole f'er down09:49
foXgamerdougsko: That's the west coast of the uk :D09:49
intelikeyCalav3ra google does turn up a blank on that error doesn't it.....09:49
dougskolol09:49
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JaivazThat's odd. My XMMS script for Xchat now comes up with " " instead of the information09:49
naliothgentlemen, please watch your language09:49
N6REJaftertaf: you awake?09:49
ormandji'm impressed, breezy has turned into a pretty good release so far09:49
Calav3ralol, i foind info, wait a sec09:49
brownie17cya everyone09:49
ormandjvery few lil niggly bugs left09:49
Shermanbut this howto installs gcc etc, mplayer, gmplayer, and thew codecs and xmms and a few internet radio stations09:49
dougskosorry, but i figured it's 3:49am, and there's no kids or women for that matter here09:50
kemikSherman:  apt-get install build-essential09:50
MadpilotSherman: why do you need all those players? all you need is one or two that work for you...09:50
N6REJnalioth: morning09:50
naliothN6REJ: howdy09:50
Madpilotdougsko: it's not 0350 everywhere, remember...09:50
naliothdougsko: this is a world wide channel09:50
Shermanlol kemik, I know09:50
N6REJdougsko: no, but some of us don't particularly like that kind of behavior09:50
intelikeyyes ?09:50
tristanmikedougsko, assuming your in North America, it's the middle of the afternoon on the other side of the world09:50
Shermanand kemik, it just works :P09:50
dougskoim sorry i said, im sorry09:51
foXgamerJaivaz: I think you may have to re-write your script. I don't know much about scripts (enough to put on the back of a postage stamp with room left) but I have the same problems with funny characters in xchat09:51
tristanmikedougsko, :P09:51
N6REJnalioth: you familiar with setting postfix up?09:51
ShermanMadpilot, Im just installing mplayer with the gui and xmms09:51
naliothN6REJ: never heard of it09:51
kemikSherman:  i know that stuff works, but it's really not neccessary to compile mplayer by yourself ;)09:51
intelikey8-{09:51
N6REJnalioth: Am I the only guy using ubuntu for a server :P09:51
naliothN6REJ: dunno09:51
aftertafn6mod:  lol yeah, i am :)09:51
vengefulcould be some other crazy people about hehe09:51
crimsunN6REJ: of course not. Ubuntu's Web servers run...(guess what?)09:52
naliothvengeful: did you get that box sorted?09:52
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marckhi09:52
N6REJaftertaf: morning.... I need some help getting postfix running properly09:52
vengefuli think my friend is crying atm09:52
N6REJcrimsun: well, thats a good assumption09:52
intelikeyCalav3ra no  i got 20  sorry.09:52
ormandjN6REJ, i've got a 2800 server cluster i'm building using ubuntu09:52
vengefulso when i get news il let you know hehe09:52
ormandjdoes that count?09:52
crimsunN6REJ: not precisely an assumption, heh.09:53
Shermankemik, I learnt how to compile software by doing it. That mplayer howto was the first time that everything worked from the word go. I know mplayer and the build essentials can be installed via mplayer, but how does one learn his way around a linux distro when its as easy as that. I *do* use apt all the time, but for mplayer, I compile it... Ive had more luck with that way anyway09:53
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ShermanI see your point tho kemik09:53
ormandjand hi crimsun :)09:53
dougskohowever, i do purpose a toast. anyone who is of legal age, get yourself a drink, and lets have a worldwide drink together in honor of this fine OS. what do you guys say?09:53
N6REJormandj: well, I'm having problems getting postfix running properly.09:53
aftertafN6REJ:  never setup a linux server yet, unfortunately.....09:53
ormandjN6REJ, what problem?09:53
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ormandjdougsko, i'm all for that09:53
Shermanbah EECore09:53
N6REJormandj: it will send mail via the mail command to my mailbox ON the server.  And will recieve mails from the server.... And from the world.  But I can't pull my mail OFF the server.09:54
dougskocool, ill be back in a sec, gotta pour...09:54
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ormandjN6REJ, that's because postfix doesn't do that09:54
foXgamerbottoms up all!09:54
ormandjN6REJ, install courier imap/pop309:54
ormandjfoXgamer, cheers, vodka here too09:54
vengefulabit early for me atm09:54
vengefuli have a hot chocolate tho09:54
foXgamerbit early here too vengeful - not even 9am yet!09:55
foXgamerlol09:55
N6REJormandj: apt-get install courier imap/pop3?09:55
ormandjN6REJ, no, find out the package names, and install them09:55
Sherman...09:55
dougskohaha thats ok, its the thought that counts09:55
ormandjthere are a few, for imap, pop3, etc09:55
Calav3raianyone having a samsung x20 in here???09:55
ormandjhere, let me find you a howto :)09:55
N6REJormandj: recommendations?09:55
dougskoi just hope im not the only one with a real shot of whiskey in front of him09:55
foXgamerI should be doing mathematical theories but I can't be bothered09:55
ormandjhttp://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/   <-- ignore all the mysql stuff, etc09:56
ShermanCalav3ra, I am 'having' a KFC meal here!!!09:56
ormandjbut it shows the packages09:56
ormandjrecommendation is use google.com :P09:56
N6REJSherman: SUSH! I went to bed without supper yesterday cause I had been up for 2 days09:56
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ormandj(Same as i did)09:56
naliothdougsko: sorry, ive got a bottle in front of me09:56
N6REJormandj: cc09:56
Sherman:/ damn!09:56
dougskohaha nice09:56
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ormandjill brb, grabbing vodka, wine, and some smokes09:56
dougskonice09:56
Shermannice combo09:57
ormandjmake that cigar09:57
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ormandj:P09:57
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N6REJormandj: dumb questions... is it recommended to set postfix up for smtp-auth & TLS?09:57
Shermangod I cannot wait 2 days09:57
ormandjyes N6REJ, most def. but you don't need a mysql backend for authentication09:57
ormandjyou'll want to use the local user accounts most likely09:57
ormandjvirtual delivery is a bit out of the league of a single server09:57
ormandjunless you need to host multiple domains09:57
ormandjin which case, go for it09:58
ormandjanyways let me brb :P09:58
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N6REJormandj: k09:58
cafuego_N6REJ: If that's what you want, yes it's recommended.09:58
foXgamerso if I already have breezy and been updating every day, should I still get the stable version when it's out in 2 days?09:58
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Shermanormandj!! ormandj !!! BAH!09:58
cafuego_foXgamer: No, just run a dist-upgrade in 2 days and you'll be right.09:58
dougskofoXgamer: itll be the exact same thing if u just keep updated09:58
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foXgamercool. thanks guys. My phone company thinks I'm an international company with all the downloading I've done over the past few months!09:59
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aftertaflol foXgamer09:59
N6REJcafuego_: I'm not sure what I want.  I DON"T want to be hijacked, spammed, I am nat'd but still..... I'm used to Engarde which is secure as heck!  I do plan to install tripwire, but..................09:59
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dougskoN6REJ: dude, just limit the services u have open to the net. no ftp and the likes10:00
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airxdreshi to all10:00
logikal_Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation10:00
logikal_:(10:00
foXgamerhey airxdres10:00
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ShermanfoXgamer, lol10:01
dougskopeople cant exploit whats not there10:01
logikal_I hate mplayer! I hate linux! :(:(:(10:01
Shermanlogikal_, ouch10:01
naliothlogikal_: install xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev10:01
aleitneranybody else sees a "Reloading postfix configuration failed" message during boot up after a hoary->breezy upgrade ?10:01
aftertaflogikal_:  and take 5......;)10:01
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dockanehi all10:01
N6REJcafuego_: I'm setting up a server that will have 3 main functions.... 1) personal server serving sites for each kid, 1 e-store site, 1) intranet site for building/testing web apps the daily usage like calendars and such.10:01
foXgamerlogikal_: Are you using gnome? What do you want the player for?10:01
Shermanyou *are* doing exactly what that howto is telling you to do?10:01
airxdresthey organized UbuntuParty for the liberation of breezy ?10:01
logikal_KDE10:02
Shermanoh10:02
logikal_Becuase totem is a total pos10:02
airxdreshi foXgamer10:02
logikal_yes10:02
logikal_I am doing EXACTLY10:02
naliothfoXgamer: imho, mplayer could use a good recompile10:02
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logikal_except for the essential package is newer im using.10:02
airxdresBecuase totem is a total pos <- jaja se te salio el espaol10:02
airxdresxD10:02
cafuego_N6REJ: If you're feeling adventurous, try ZCS10:02
foXgameryou're right nalioth. It's on my system collecting dust.10:02
N6REJdougsko: I'm using sftp & mod_dav, though I haven't turned on the dav yet because I don't understand the full implications of it.10:02
foXgamerhehe10:02
cafuego_N6REJ: it's not packaged up though.10:02
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dougskoairxdres: newer isnt always better...10:02
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Jeromeewill ubuntu ever be releasing versions for sparcs?10:03
cafuego_Jeromee: doubtful.10:03
airxdresdougsko, yeah ;)10:03
dougskoN6REJ: thats cool, i only know that dav is pretty bad in winblows (i know 1st hand :) )10:03
N6REJcafuego_: I'll read up on that, its in freshmeat10:03
BurgundaviaJeromee, it already does, unofficiallly10:03
aleitneranybody knows what is wrong if i see the message "reloading postfix configuratio failed" during bootup (besides the obvious :)?10:03
BurgundaviaJeromee, ports.ubuntu.com10:03
Jeromeehmm10:04
logikal_nalioth, I have those packages.10:04
Jeromeeis it supported?10:04
Meisterhi there...10:04
dougskoi have no idea though about linux to be honest10:04
BurgundaviaJeromee, not in terms of security10:04
airxdresIn Chile we will organize ubuntuparty day 1310:04
cafuego_N6REJ: I run postfox+courier with mysql backend myself. But then, I host over 100 mail domains.10:04
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N6REJdougsko: what does that mean?  I always used proftpd before and was told not to so......10:04
cafuego_Jeromee: Would you want to use it as a desktop box?10:04
airxdresmuch beer and conversation10:04
Jeromeenot likely10:04
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Jeromeejust as a toy server, its only 110mhz10:05
cafuego_Jeromee: if it's to be a server, just use Debian.10:05
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N6REJcafuego_: I don't PLAN on doing more but who the heck knows.... I've gotta generate SOME kind of extra income.10:05
JeromeeI suppose10:05
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dougskoN6REJ: go to bugtraq or maybe securityfocus and look it up. one search should tell you if its safe or not10:05
JeromeeI was hoping to use ubuntu, it seems to be more properly supported, yanno?10:05
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Meister_Lampedoes anyone know, why the "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main" doesnt work anymore?10:05
cafuego_Jeromee: stable, tested, stable, stable...10:05
dockanei am looking for a command line tool which scales images down: my choice is imagemagick. no i am looking for a way to convert tif images of  different sizes (mostly scanned) down to jpgs but with -resize or -geometry. instead i would like to give a max value of filesize, i.e. 800 kb and let imagemick choose the right options . any idea ?10:05
foXgameraleitner: I don't know about postfix but I would scrutinise your startup files10:05
aftertafairxdres:  nice :)10:05
cafuego_Jeromee: Did I mention stability yet? ;-)10:05
ShermanMeister_Lampe, its because they have stopped those servers10:06
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aftertafMeister_Lampe:10:06
aftertafoops sorry ...10:06
Shermanhehe10:06
dougskonothing it 100% safe, you can only be maybe 90% at the very best10:06
da_bon_bonhi all10:06
Meister_Lampethanks, but where can i get the w32codecs for example, instead?10:06
JaivazEep, Azureus is running very slowly10:06
aleitnerfoXgamer: hmm, thanks for the hint. i don't think i am too good at that. besides.10:06
JaivazWell, it's running ok but it's downloading slowly... very slowly.10:06
dougskoso minimizing services open to the web is the single best thing you can do10:06
naliothubotu: tell Meister_Lampe about w32codecs10:06
N6REJdougsko: ok.  I haven't even decided 100% on a html editor.  I've got NetObjects Fusion 7.0, GoLive 6.0, & Frontpage 2003.10:06
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airxdressomebody uses muine ?10:06
ShermanMeister_Lampe, www.mplayerhq.hu10:07
da_bon_bonit takes a LOT of time while i use apt to install anything -- it stops for a lot of time at "Reading database" any ideas ?10:07
Madpilotairxdres: I do, yes10:07
da_bon_bonMeister_Lampe: marillat10:07
omegHey guys I'm pretty sure you've already seen this or millions of people have already pasted this link, but: http://cgi.ebay.ca/UBUNTU-Linux-Windows-Replacement-Super-Cool-OS_W0QQitemZ5812690227QQcategoryZ11227QQcmdZViewItem10:07
intelikeywhat' muine ?10:07
N6REJdougsko: LOTS OF decisions right now.... I'm just taking it one little issue at a time so I don't get overwhelmed as I have bi-polar disorder.10:07
foXgameraleitner: hehe. That's my limits at the mo - keep nagging others. dougsko is quite knowledgable ;)10:07
Shermanda_bon_bon, marillat dont work10:07
naliothda_bon_bon: please dont recommend nerim or marillat10:07
Madpilotintelikey: an album player, similar to Rythymbox10:07
da_bon_bonwhy ?10:07
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naliothubotu: tell da_bon_bon about w32codecs10:07
da_bon_boni use the package from marillat10:07
Shermanthe servers aint up10:07
airxdresMadpilot, it requests plug you know to me as it is ?10:07
intelikeyah i use "play"10:07
aleitnerfoXgamer: (;10:07
foXgamerN6REJ: hey! I'm a sufferer too!10:07
dougskoN6REJ: haha its cool. dont worry too much about what you design yr page with, id say just use whats most comfortable and easy for ya10:08
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aftertafhi onkarshinde :)10:08
Madpilotairxdres: sorry, I didn't understand your question at all...10:08
aftertafhows things where you are man? onkarshinde10:08
onkarshindeaftertaf: hi10:08
airxdresok10:08
da_bon_bonbut why doesnt marillat not work ?10:08
naliothda_bon_bon: debian repositories will break ubuntu10:08
onkarshindeaftertaf: I didn't know you were waiting for me so eagerly10:08
da_bon_bonshit!10:08
N6REJfoXgamer: so you understand... I had to just shutdown yesterday @ 1600.  Couldn't hang anymore.... Plus I have oxygen deprevation so that don't help either.... I swear I've lost tons of brain cells.... I can't remember 1/10th of what I used to know.10:09
Shermanda_bon_bon, they dont work...10:09
da_bon_bonwhat am i to do now ?10:09
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N6REJfoXgamer: all this stuff used to be easy for me.10:09
logikal_I hate everything :(10:09
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dougskoso you guys ready to do a shot or what?10:09
aftertafhehe.... onkarshinde with what happened sort of in your neck of the woods.......10:09
Shermanda_bon_bon, marillat seems to be down or the repos dont exist etc10:09
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da_bon_bonSherman, nalioth : but all videos and music is playing10:09
naliothda_bon_bon: what are you doing?10:09
dougskolol, im gettin thirsty10:09
aftertaf!beer10:09
ubotubeer is, like, totally, Stop! Have a beer......  Mine's a John Smith's10:09
Shermanda_bon_bon, well you got a package that worked, when the repos were up10:09
da_bon_bonnalioth: i installed w32codecs from marilat. didnt add the repo, just installed the pacakge10:09
Shermanbut they arnt any more10:09
N6REJdougsko: NOPE, let me go get my can o pepsi!, I'll have a tiny bit of rum with it since I haven't taken my meds yet LOL10:09
naliothda_bon_bon: then you rock10:09
Shermanheh10:10
foXgamerN6REJ: Yes, I do understand. I only got it recognised a few months ago, so I am still learning about it10:10
dougskook dude, just let me know10:10
onkarshindeis there anything rquivalent to rpmbuild in for debian packages/10:10
ormandjback now10:10
dougskologikal_: dont you worry man, you stick around here, and youll be a guru before you know it10:10
aftertaflol dougsko10:10
foXgamerhehe! too true!10:10
da_bon_bonnalioth: uh.. i am not familiar with english slang :( will that break my sys or no ?10:10
intelikeydeb-rpm10:10
ormandjalien!10:10
ormandj:P10:10
aftertaflol10:11
foXgamerI've picked up more today than the past month on my own!10:11
cafuego_foXgamer: Woo! How many chicks did you pick up today?10:11
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N6REJfoXgamer: take your time, take your meds, educate your family!!!  There will be times you will need them desperately to put you back together.10:11
foXgamercafuego: hehe10:11
ormandjfamily? that's mistake #1 :P10:11
ShermanfoXgamer, you lucky bastard10:11
onkarshindeormandj: No. I don't want to convert an rpm package in deb. rpmbuild reads a spec file and converts a source tarball intp rpm by doing all the necessary things.10:11
N6REJormandj: lol nope, I'm so dumb I did it 2x LOL10:11
ormandjonkarshinde, i know, i was kidding :)10:12
ormandjN6REJ, lol, some of us have to learn from mistakes :P10:12
cafuego_onkarshinde: You cna always run 'checkinstall' on an extracted source tarball.10:12
naliothda_bon_bon: if you have debian binary repos in your /etc/apt/source.list you will have problems10:12
ormandjonkarshinde, there are a bunch of good deb packaging tools, you could google for it10:12
foXgamerN6REJ: That's the prob. Doctors around my area are morons. I've only just been put on prozac. My friends have been on higher doses for just losing a job!10:12
naliothda_bon_bon: if you install some debian packages you will have problems10:12
logikal_I'm out of beer, mplayer wont work, what else could go wrong?10:12
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foXgamerSherman: Who says me getting the ladies makes me lucky? lol10:12
onkarshindeormandj: if not for tools, how does one normally make a deb package?10:12
da_bon_bonnalioth: no, no debian repos. just that one package from marillat10:13
ormandjonkarshinde, http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+a+deb&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial10:13
cafuego_logikal_: earthquake10:13
naliothda_bon_bon: debian SOURCE repositories are ok in your sources.list10:13
ormandjamazing how helpful google is: "how to make a deb"10:13
ShermanfoXgamer, I do10:13
Shermanso meh10:13
foXgamerrofl10:13
cafuego_Osamas machine seems to work, he tested it on Pakistan. Next target: LA.10:13
N6REJormandj: LOL, <---- 6 kids,  ( 1st marriage = 22yr, 18yr ( boys ), 2nd ( 13yr, 11yr, 8yr boys & 10yr daughter )10:13
ormandji don't get geeks who didn't learn to use google :)10:13
intelikeylogikal_ your installation of '*' could trash your hd.10:13
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logikal_it probably will10:13
ormandjN6REJ, rofl, you're far gone, it's too late now, poor guy :P10:13
intelikeymore likely than earthquake.....10:13
da_bon_bonnalioth: no debian repos at all :)10:14
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dougskoyeah its like i dont know howd id know anything without google and kickass irc people10:14
onkarshindeGive me one advice. I am on hoary. dist-upgrade or clean install?10:14
ormandj"the poor man who couldnt keep it in his pants lays here, he died in debt, and with a hardon from internet porn"10:14
N6REJfoXgamer: get a diff doc.  I'm on a ton of meds, 3 major ones, but what they do... is give you the split second to be able to make a sane decision.... Also ask for guidance from above... but thats a different conversation.10:14
N6REJLOL @ ormandj10:14
dougskofor the least headaches, my gut says: go clean10:15
ormandj<-- almost fell into the trap, but managed to escape by breaking off his engagement :P10:15
da_bon_bonwhat was the method to disable ipv6 in hoary ?10:15
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foXgamerN6REJ: Yeah. Thanks. It's all in hand luckily. Still can't get motivated to do this bl**dy theory though! lol10:15
foXgamer^any offers?10:15
ormandjfor?10:15
Shermanno10:15
Shermanno10:15
Shermanno10:15
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foXgamerhehe10:16
dougskofoXgamer: what r u working on?10:16
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topylionkarshinde: just upgrade10:16
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foXgamernumber theory - chance and chaos :D10:16
ormandjonkarshinde, dist-upgrade, it works great10:16
dougskoi was ready to pay someone through paypal to do my emag homework10:16
ormandjfoXgamer, i'm good with number theory :)10:16
da_bon_bonhow do i change / use different usplash themes ?10:16
N6REJlol10:16
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logikal_ill do homework for money10:16
ormandjfoXgamer, and cryptography would be the reason i am ;p10:17
N6REJnow I KNOW I'm a dinosaur10:17
logikal_as long as it doesnt have to do with making linux work, thats a subject i suck at10:17
N6REJ<----- /nick grandpa hall10:17
ormandj<-- loves qbit cryptography lala10:17
foXgamermine isn't homework. It's just a theory I have. Nothing that HAS to get done. Just wanna do it that's all.10:17
ormandj<-- also programs in OS/VS COBOL on os/360 mainframes as a hobby10:17
dougskoim serious, if you can do gaussian sufaces and crap like that...wooooow boy, we could be in business10:17
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foXgamer<--feels totally inadequate. Again.10:18
foXgamerlol10:18
da_bon_bonis there any amarok like program for gnome ?10:18
logikal_amarok10:18
logikal_lol10:18
foXgamerwhy is everyone so brainy? why can't i be brainy?10:18
dougskoim a 5th year EE student, and im so F*************** sick of school it unbelievable10:18
aftertaflol logikal_10:18
aftertaffoXgamer:  :/10:18
ormandjfoXgamer, well pmsg what you're working on already, i'll see what i can do to help :)10:18
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logikal_because foXgamer , stupid people are often more happyu.10:19
logikal_happy.10:19
ormandji'm also a human trafficer, i could sell you some women on the side :P10:19
foXgamerlol. I wouldn't let you waste your time ormandj. But thanks. :)10:19
ormandjlogikal_, close. smart people who let the world think they are stupid do best ;)10:19
N6REJeinstiend was functionally illiterate!10:19
foXgamerI said the other day that I would love to be more stoopid so I could be happier10:19
ormandjN6REJ, as seem you, einstein :P lol j/k10:20
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aftertafexcept the verb is: stoopiderer10:20
foXgamerRichard Branson is dyslexic10:20
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N6REJlol10:20
foXgameraftertaf: hehe10:20
ormandjaftertaf, what happened to more stoopiderer?10:20
ormandjdon't forget the adjective :P10:20
N6REJaftertaf: as in more of a stoop? LOL :P10:20
topylidid you ever see einstein's dog speaking to him? no, because it was a smart dog. albert would have bothered him all the time if he discovered how smart the dog was10:20
aftertaf:)10:20
aftertaf!cigarette10:20
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)10:20
onkarshindeIs it necessary for the swap partition to be double size of RAM?10:20
foXgamerwouldn't that make you stoopided?10:20
ormandjsmoking is good10:21
ormandjjust make sure to drink lots of wine for the anti-oxidents10:21
ormandj(enough to get drunk)10:21
foXgameronkarshinde: yup10:21
ormandj:P10:21
N6REJonkarshinde: NOPE, but then why not10:21
N6REJonkarshinde: how much ram you got?10:21
foXgamerI would10:21
topylionkarshinde: no if you have lots of ram10:21
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foXgamerThat's what I was told10:21
ormandjN6REJ, because if you allocate too much swap, the memory management subsystem starts swapping like mad when it'd be better just to fail on malloc()10:22
TTilusAfter upgrading warty -> hoary, acrobat reader plugin stopped working in mozilla10:22
topylifoXgamer: that was more true when we all had 32M of RAM10:22
foXgamertopyli wins! That makes much more sense than my idea :)10:22
onkarshindeCurrently 128 RAM and 256 swap. But planning to add 512 RAM chip. That will make 640 of RAM total.10:22
foXgamerlol10:22
N6REJormandj: OH10:22
dougskomeanwhile, id like to make a toast to all the people in this room who are making ubuntu the sweet distro it is, because as good as the software is, itd be nothing without the support of cool people like yourselves. CHEERS!10:22
foXgamermy head hurts. lol10:22
TTilusalready tried to purge and reinstall them all (acroread packages and browser)10:22
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dougsko*cough10:23
N6REJormandj: if I use smtp-auth & tls with postfix what am I gaining?  Why is it worth it?10:23
dougskohaha10:23
onkarshindeDo i need swap at all with 640 MB RAM?10:23
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N6REJty doug!10:23
N6REJonkarshinde: YES!10:23
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TTilusany suggestions?10:23
airxdresonkarshinde, YES !10:23
airxdresxD10:23
dougskolol10:23
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airxdreslol10:23
airxdresxD10:23
airxdresjajajaja10:23
airxdres\\10:23
ormandjN6REJ, encrypted password transfer, so things aren't sent plaintext10:23
airxdres||10:23
naliothairxdres: may we help you?10:23
ormandjand it's a 5 minute setup in ubuntu so :)10:23
CynosHi all - Usplash - anyone tweaked it yet?10:23
ormandjwell worth it10:23
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N6REJormandj: AH!!! ok.10:23
onkarshindeN6REJ: airxdres: how much? 2 x 640 of swap?10:24
dougskoyeah, thats some good 4:23am irc fun...10:24
ormandjsmpt-auth so you don't act as an open relay and spam the world unwillingly10:24
TTiluswhere can i check plugins and mime settings of mozilla firefox?10:24
TTilus(just to see if there's anything wrong)10:24
ormandjand so even if you visit romania, you'll be able to send mail, outside of your local netblock10:24
airxdresonkarshinde, I have 1024 MB to him10:24
airxdresto swap10:24
N6REJormandj: ok, so I need a bit of help... please look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix and look at the line under the square box starting with <- Internet Site          I don't understand that line at all.10:25
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onkarshindeTTilus: type about:plugins as url10:25
TTilusonkarshinde: ok10:25
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Jedrickwhere can i edit the boot, coz everytime i boot i promted 3 linux and 3 fail safe.. i want to remove the duplicated ones.. can anyone help10:26
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ormandjN6REJ, the second prompt where it asks you for something, put "NONE"10:26
ormandj:P10:26
ormandji would assume10:26
ormandji just hand edited the config file10:26
N6REJormandj: those are prompts?10:26
onkarshindeJedrick: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst10:26
station7unick single_f`10:26
Jedrickok thnx10:26
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N6REJormandj: I'm reading the wiki printout right now.10:27
TTilusonkarshinde: there is nppdf.so listed and enabled=yes, mime application/pdf10:27
TTiluslooks like okay10:27
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logikal_I'm a failure10:27
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logikal_Im going to bed10:27
TTilusstill when i try to view pdf i get blank white screen10:27
ormandjN6REJ, those are your responses to prompts, in order10:27
dougskoi dont know if this is just plain obvious, but just a little tip to anyone starting any internet damons, i think its a good idea to nmap yrself just to see what the 'hackers' see, a lot of times you can change service banners, so maybe port 21 will still be open, but itll say https or something confusing like that instead of wu-ftp10:27
topyliJedrick: they should also be removed if you remove the old kernel packages10:27
ormandjaka the first prompt it gives, answer internet site10:27
ormandjsecond prompt it gives, answer NONE10:27
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ormandjand so forth10:27
Jedrickwhat you mean/10:28
dougskojust a thought10:28
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Jedrickhow to remove the old kernel package?10:28
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onkarshindeTTilus: Can you give me link of pdf?10:28
topyliJedrick: which you might as well remove, because you can't boot them anyway if you remove them from the grub menu :)10:28
N6REJormandj: ok, ty.. I didn't realize that those were propmpts10:28
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TTilusonkarshinde: ok, wait a sec10:28
ormandjnp mate10:28
foXgamerdougsko: damon? nmap? eh?10:28
Jedricktopyli: how  to remove the old package?10:28
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fortran01anyone getting server errors with gmail?10:29
Jedrickcoz i update yesterday and when i turn on my pc on.. thats what i got..10:29
topyliJedrick: search for linux-image in synaptic and see what you have installed. then remove the ones you don't want10:29
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Jedrickok10:30
onkarshindeJedrick: Are you sure all the entries are same?10:30
Jedrickyes10:30
TTilusonkarshinde: ayh10:30
TTilushttp://www.free-culture.cc/freeculture.pdf10:30
dougskonmap is a port scanner, its gonna tell me what ports are open on your computer and what services you are running on them. so, say for instance, i see that you're running some old version of wu-ftp on port 21, well, you're just asking to be hacked. but you can change default ports that services run on, change banners, so that i dont know that you have apache version 1.33.3 v1 (just an example)10:31
topyliJedrick: do "cat /proc/version" to see which kernel you're running. you probably don't want to remove that :)10:31
juliuxhi i have upgraded from hoary to breezy, but now i can not install eclipse-ecj, the problem is that the libnspr4 is a old version and apt dont want upgrade them10:31
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Jedricktopyli:  i have 4 linux-image installed10:31
juliuxcan someone help me?10:32
onkarshindeTTilus: which ubuntu?10:32
dougskomaybe im a little paranoid, but on the web i think its kinda fun to be, cause i know what can be done...hehe10:32
shreevatsaer, how do I install w32codecs from the url that ubotu gives? What should I add to my sources.list ?10:32
melvztechiejuliux: what your problem, state it here;)10:32
Jedrickhere's my version Linux version 2.6.12-9-68610:32
TTilusonkarshinde: that shows just blank white (not even pdf plugin controls) on mozilla, but if i download and view with xpdf everythign works ok10:32
TTilusonkarshinde: hoary10:32
foXgamerdougsko: So basically, what you're telling me is that my computer is open to attacks and if I get attacked it will probably be you? :P10:32
TTilusonkarshinde: stopped workin after warty -> hoary10:32
juliuxmelvztechie, hi i have upgraded from hoary to breezy, but now i can not install eclipse-ecj, the problem is that the libnspr4 is a old version and apt dont want upgrade them10:33
topyliJedrick: ok, keep the latest version of that and uninstall the rest10:33
TTilusonkarshinde: or at least if noticed it only after upgrade  :)10:33
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TTilusonkarshinde: s/if/i/10:33
onkarshindeTTilus: The pdf is big. about 2.6 MB. May be you should just wait for sometime. Arte you on slow connection?10:33
Jedrickok10:33
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dougskolol, no no no, i would be telling you this stuff otherwise. but i believe that one safe computer makes the whole web a little safer10:33
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onkarshindeshreevatsa: Please give me link, i will tell you what to add.10:33
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TTilusonkarshinde: doesn't depend on size10:34
shreevatsahttp://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ is the link that the bot here gives10:34
dougskobut, lets just say, i am familar with what can be done, and trust me, its pretty scary10:34
shreevatsaIt doesn't look like a standard repository10:34
TTilusonkarshinde: i can see no pdf10:34
Jedricktopyli: what will i do " mark for removal" or " mark for complete removal" which one?10:34
foXgamerso how do I go about making my computer safe?10:34
onkarshindeTTilus: is this just when viewing in browser?10:34
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onkarshinde!w32codecs10:34
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:35
dougsko1st and foremost, run a firewall10:35
N6REJormandj: ok, something is goofy... posftix has localhost listed 2x...     mail.cogyfarm.com, adam.cogyfarm.com, staff.cogyfarm.com, localhost.localdomain, localhost.localdomain, localhost_    ( The machines name is adam., mail is cname, )  ( mail & adam point to 192.168.2.4 which is nat'd ip from world to server, and staff points to 192.168.2.100 which is OUTSIDE the dhcp table so I ASSUME...10:35
N6REJ...its also blocked by the routers firewall from being able to be seen from the world.  Its designed for our intranet )10:35
topyliJedrick: complete, it will also remove the configuration for those packages10:35
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dougskoyou guys are all running firewalls right10:35
dougsko???10:35
Jedrickok10:35
melvztechiejuliux: i just hope bob2 is here, he can tell most problems on upgraded packages10:35
anchovieHey, when Ubuntu 5.10 RC starts up, at the part where it says Configuring Network Interfaces, it always takes a really long time and which result in a rediculously long boot up time, how can I fix this? For example, disabling the system to "configure network interface" at boot process.10:35
foXgamerI got told that I don't need a firewall in linux!10:35
headgoathi all.  brand new ubuntu user.  Trying to install Zope, and I guess I need the developers tools.  Any suggestions as to how I download those?  Package Manager (what's that!?)   - sorry newbie here10:35
dougskoOMG!10:35
shreevatsaonkarshinde: yes, that expands to the same link10:35
juliuxmelvztechie, ok thanks10:35
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dougskono!!!!!!!!!10:35
N6REJormandj: .100 isn't even its own nick... its eth0:010:35
shreevatsaonkarshinde, but it just has 3 .deb files at that place10:36
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dougskoyou MUST  have one10:36
onkarshindeshreevatsa: No need to add anything. Download the deb package and install with 'sudo dpkg --install packagename.deb'10:36
dougskoMUST10:36
loogahi10:36
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shreevatsaonkarshinde, ok, thanks10:36
dougskoi suggest firestarter, because it is VERY easy to set up10:36
dougskolol10:36
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ormandjN6REJ, delete one of the localhost entries.10:36
ormandjyou don't need two10:36
dougskoyou can apt-get it10:36
loogawhat time on Oct 14 will the official breezy be ready for download?10:37
TTilusonkarshinde: i'll create a tiny test, waitasec10:37
N6REJormandj: I didn't think so.10:37
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ormandjpersonally, i say screw the ubuntu wiki and read the postfix docs, and google to find a nice guide10:37
Seveas* foXgamer runs around the chatroom, hands flapping, screaming "ah! not safe! unclean! unclean"10:37
Seveas--> darksatanic (n=hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk) has joined #ubuntu10:37
Seveashow coincidental :)10:37
ormandjyou'll learn a lot more that way10:37
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TTilusonkarshinde: y, only when viewing in browser10:37
naliothfoXgamer: dont worry about a firewall10:37
dougskowhat?10:37
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foXgamerbut dougsko just said.......................10:37
TTilusonkarshinde: no problems anywhere else with xpdf of acroread10:37
Seveaslooga, around noon on Oct. 13 I guess10:37
dougskonalioth?10:37
dougskoare u serious10:37
TTilusonkarshinde: no pdf views in firefox10:37
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melvztechiejuliux: have your tried synaptic to upgrade the package10:37
Seveas!firewall10:38
ubotuit has been said that firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.10:38
darksatanicSeveas: Coincidence? I think not. :)10:38
Seveasdougsko, you're too windows-minded...10:38
SeveasUbuntu by default exports no services to the outside world10:38
anchovieHey, when Ubuntu 5.10 RC starts up, at the part where it says Configuring Network Interfaces, it always takes a really long time and which result in a rediculously long boot up time, how can I fix this? For example, disabling the system to "configure network interface" at boot process.10:38
Seveashrnce no firewall10:38
TTilusonkarshinde: http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~terotil/tmp/hi.pdf10:38
onkarshindeTTilus: Do you have acrebat reader also installed? May be FF doesn't know which program to use or may be acrebat reader is screwed up.10:38
topylifoXgamer: sometimes you want some functionality in iptables (IP masquerading for example) but it's not necessary for security10:38
TTilusonkarshinde: thats definitely small, but doesnt show10:38
dougskono, im not. it s true you can easily set up kernel level packet filtering, but you DO have to set it up10:39
TTilusonkarshinde: yes i have reader too, how come?10:39
naliothlet me scroll up10:39
foXgamertopyli: eh? Damn. This is all new to me. I have a lot to learn.10:39
dougskofirestarter just provides a simple gui to do so10:39
dougskoseriously guys....10:39
N6REJormandj: anything else I should add/change to that line?10:39
dougskoyou NEED a firewall10:39
topylifoXgamer: by default, ubuntu has no services listening to any ports anyway10:39
onkarshindeTTilus: I am on windows currently. So can't really compare. But I use xpdf and don't even have acrobat installed.10:39
Seveasdougsko, nonsense10:39
Seveasstop spreading fud.10:39
naliothdougsko: you dont need a firewall with a default install10:39
N6REJSeveas: g'morning10:40
Seveasni N6REJ10:40
loogaSeveas: noon in what time zone?10:40
N6REJSeveas: btw, names Troy10:40
naliothdougsko: using nmap to see the doors is a whole different thing then entering said doors10:40
Seveaslooga, that's the trick ;)10:40
anchovieSo anybody have any ideas about my "configuring network interface" takes too long problem?10:40
loogahuh?10:40
loogahow do we know when it's ready10:40
looga?10:40
topylifoXgamer: if you set up a service, then you most likely don't want to immediately block its port by a firewall :)10:40
foXgamerhehe. penguin with a match.10:40
N6REJanchovie: do you have it actually plugged in?10:40
dougskowow...ok man, please show me one respectable webpage that says you dont need a firewall10:40
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Seveaslooga, there will be e-mails to all ubuntu lists and an announcement on the forum10:41
Trashcanif my name was troy, i'd run around pretending i was brad pitt and stabbing people in the neck10:41
xuniluserHelp: The applications I launch doesn't appear in my panel bar. What should i do?10:41
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Trashcanthat was a gooood movie.10:41
melvztechiehow do we start firestarter: for example i installed apache210:41
onkarshindeCan someone explain me exactly what is UTC?10:41
N6REJTrashcan: LOL10:41
foXgamertopyli: I do have a website and an eggdrop in a chatroom. Will it help or hinder having the firewall?10:41
anchovieN6REJ: I'm on my wireless network.10:41
dougskoit wont matter10:41
shreevatsaonkarshinde: UTC is a timezone; the standard one10:41
Seveasxuniluser, add the window list to your panel again10:41
ormandjN6REJ, no idea man, i gotta go to bed :) up in 2 hours :)10:41
N6REJanchovie: is it working?  Wireless has problems getting configured properly.10:41
ormandjcheers and best luck10:41
dougskoyou have to let a service such as a web server though your firewall10:41
N6REJormandj: k.10:41
anchovieN6REJ: The wireless is working properly.10:42
loogaSeveas: how do i sign up for announcements on forum? I don't want to sign up for email lists because I don't want many emails coming to my emailbox10:42
dougskowhich is why you must choose it carefully10:42
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vengefulWEP or WPA?10:42
aftertafTrashcan:  which movie?10:42
N6REJanchovie: k, then it should only take a few minutes10:42
topylifoXgamer: you can use a firewall but then you will of course open the respective ports for those services to be useful10:42
looga.sign up for ONE and ONLY one announcement10:42
vengefuljust curious..cos i didnt get wpa to work yet10:42
shreevatsaonkarshinde: (Was called GMT earlier)10:42
Trashcanaftertaf : Troy :)10:42
naliothfoXgamer: i can tell you one good reason you dont need a firewall10:42
Seveaslooga, subscribe to ubuntu-announce or ubuntu-news lists10:42
aftertafdougsko:  by default you dont need a firewall.... if you want to setup network services, the corresponding ports will be opened.10:42
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JedrickHow to run 3dchess?10:43
anchovieN6REJ: It's just takes too long. Is there anyway to by-pass the "configure network interface" step?10:43
aftertafTrashcan:  ohhhhhhhh yeah :)   got it.   horse of troy n all that; yeah good film.10:43
naliothanchovie: hit ctrl-c at that point10:43
foXgamertopyli: Thanks for the info :) I will have a play10:43
phiqtiong10:43
anchovienalioth: I did, but nothing happens.10:43
xuniluserSeveas: thanks!10:43
dougskothat doesnt matter, if you set up a service, those ports will be open anyway. but why let ALL your ports be open, its not a good idea AT ALL10:43
trograinanyone here knows how to fix a real aannoying Bad superblock problem on a sata drive???? I have trye for a week now, read manuals here and there, and still the problem is there....and its a NEW harddrive, allmost, its only 3 months old :(10:43
Trashcani just liked when brad pitt was a badass.... which was pretty much all the time. That's for ubuntu-offtopic though :)10:43
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Seveasdougsko, syop being a gibsin10:44
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herrpoonhello all!10:44
herrpooncan someone help me10:44
Seveasdougsko, stop being a gibson*10:44
naliothherrpoon: if you ask10:44
aftertafdougsko:  not all your ports are open by default, thats the thing ;)10:44
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herrpoonim looking to get rid of the description10:44
herrpoonat the bottom of apache10:44
foXgamerdougsko = mel10:44
foXgamerhehe10:44
lixiaolonghello erevyone10:44
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herrpoonyou know it says10:44
Seveasit's complete bullhit that a port is 'open' or 'closed'10:44
herrpoonperl version 2.410:45
Trashcanzomg, where do i get a 3d shell10:45
herrpoonwhatever that stuff10:45
Trashcanso i can fly to the garbage file10:45
SeveasTrashcan, look in apache.conf10:45
herrpooni want to hide all that stuff10:45
Trashcanbest. movie. ever.10:45
aftertafSeveas:  open!=closed!=stealth......10:45
herrpooncan that be done?10:45
dougskoSeveas: hey im not trying to be your mom, you do do whatever you want, but it's not smart, simple as that, and no one here can show me any evidence otherwise10:45
naliothdougsko: this ISNT windows10:45
Trashcanthe only thing better than that movie is dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda10:46
Seveasdougsko, why would it be un-smart ?10:46
Seveasgive me ONE reason10:46
aftertafwe can take it offtopic and debate with a glass of port, guys ;)10:46
foXgamerWell I have started the firewall and I feel safer already :)10:46
naliothdougsko: this is linux. vulnerabilities (when found) are fixed w/i hours10:46
dougskohave you ever been to a little site called bugtraq?10:46
ShermanBAH!10:46
N6REJyeah, but I can't remember how.10:46
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Seveasherrpoon, look in apache.conf10:46
herrpoonk thanks10:46
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dougskoseriously, how about securityfocus?10:46
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Seveasdougsko, that is not related to this10:46
dougskohow about milw0rm?10:47
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naliothdougsko: read what we are saying. linux is patched (if necessary) w/i hours of a vulnerability10:47
ericknalioth need help10:47
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naliotherick: ask10:47
onkarshindeis GNOME latest release included in breezy (2.12.1)?10:47
Seveasonkarshinde, yes10:47
Trashcani installed firestarter and it's not in my menu :(10:47
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Trashcanlooossee10:47
naliothdougsko: and besides, you need user/pass to make use of a linux box anyway10:47
onkarshindeTrashcan: Try logout and login10:47
foXgameronkarshinde: yes, and it's very nice :)10:47
phiqtionis breezy RC is gonna be the same as Final October 13th? thanks....10:47
erickI want to install ubuntu on my 486 machine but it doesn't support boot on cdrom,10:47
dougskothats simply just not true, it is sometimes, but not always. i mean come on...10:48
Trashcanbahhhhhh ok10:48
Jedrickhow to play .dat file ?10:48
onkarshindephiqtion: AFAIK. Colony 5 is more updated than RC10:48
naliothyou guys dont come cryin when your boxen cant see the net cuz ya twisted your iptables out of whack10:48
dougskolike i said, whatver, you do whatever you want, im just trying to help10:48
Seveasonkarshinde, no10:48
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foXgamererick: Have you looked in the bios?10:48
SeveasRC is 5 days old10:48
topyliTrashcan: just do "sudo firestarter" in a terminal10:48
naliotherick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto10:48
erickyup, a and c only, I try booting on A and select the boot with cdrom support10:49
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onkarshindeJedrick: Lots of options are there. Install totem-xine or install vlc10:49
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Seveasdougsko, spreading fud is not helping10:49
Jedrickk10:49
dougskoseriously, i cant believe you guys are coming down on me for recomending a firewall...jeez10:49
erickfoxgamer thanks i check it10:49
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Seveasnor does a firewall help against dos-ing10:49
Trashcanthanks whoever said logout10:49
phiqtiononkarshinde, what do you mean "Colony 5"?10:49
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onkarshindeSeveas: Sorry I didn't know that10:49
ericknalioth thanks10:49
Trashcannow who wants to explain this: every time i log in, my panel gets ****ed10:49
dougskolinux is not invinsible10:49
N6REJanyone here a postfix guru?10:49
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onkarshindephiqtion: It is one of the beta releases made. They started from Colony 1.10:50
dougskoit is cool though10:50
foXgamererick: It's strange that your bios doesn't pick up your cd rom drive. Are there any advanced settings you can look at?10:50
phiqtiononkarshinde, where can i download colony 5 from?10:50
foXgamerwhat's cool dougsko?10:50
Seveasonkarshinde, it's C1 C2 C3 C4 PR C5 RC FR10:50
Seveasphiqtion, you want the release candidate, it's newer10:50
N6REJSeveas: can you help with postfix?10:51
shreevatsaSeveas, FR means Final Release?10:51
SeveasN6REJ, maybe10:51
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Seveasshreevatsa, yes10:51
phiqtionSeveas, im downloading RC form the main website? is that the latest? thank yoyu10:51
onkarshindeSeveas: Have you ever downloaded Ubuntu with jigdo?10:51
dougskolinux is, i think it's wonderful. i jus want everyone to have the best experience with as possible. sorry a little security sense seems to be ruining everyone's good time10:51
Seveasphiqtion, yes, onkarshinde, no10:51
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naliothphiqtion: the latest would be at cdimage.ubuntu.com  under current10:51
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onkarshindephiqtion: Yes it it. Sorry for my wrong previous answer10:52
Seveasdougsko, you are not spreading security sense but fud10:52
foXgamernah. I ditched windoze like an unwanted pile of poo as soon as I heard about linux10:52
Seveassecurity sense would be configuring services you install properly10:52
[A] ndy80hi10:52
phiqtiononkarshinde, no problem ;)10:52
onkarshindeanyone here who has tried downloading Ubuntu with jigdo?10:52
onkarshinde[A] ndy80: Hi10:52
dougskoall i said was to limit yr network services, and maybe change the default ports they run on. oh and possible run a firewall10:53
pittionkarshinde: yes, I only use jigdo for keeping my install isos up to date10:53
Seveassecurity sense is not having to wonder about this on a default install since no services listen on anything but lo10:53
phiqtionwill ubuntu be fully compatible with my intel PRO wireless 22000BG wifi card?10:53
N6REJSeveas: ok, i'm following the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix instructions... I'm at a screen that is asking what "network blocks it should relay mail for".  my internal network is 192.168.2.x and my outside ip is 216.139.123.164, so is this correct?  When I looked at the logs earlier postfix was complaing about the /128 statement....    x 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.2/128 216.139.123.164____10:53
[A] ndy80I cannot install libgda0 because it cannot install libgda-common... is it a common problem?10:53
[A] ndy80I'm using breezy10:53
Seveasdougsko, changing ports is security by obscurity10:53
Seveasthat is extremely bad security sense10:53
dougskoit is, but it's a simple thing that can help10:53
naliothdougsko: this is not windows10:53
Seveasit's not10:53
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dougskoim not saying that one thing alone is good enough10:54
TTilusdougsko: it doesnt...10:54
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onkarshindepitti: I will be having boradband connection that imposes restrictions of total download. Can I use jigdo for part download in this month and part in next?10:54
Seveasstop thinking like a windows-minded gibson hippie10:54
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phiqtionwill ubuntu be fully compatible with my intel PRO wireless 22000BG wifi card?10:54
naliothonkarshinde: use bittorrent and watch your download totals10:54
foXgamerI think it's good to have different views. Both views are right, but it's nice to know both sides of it. See I didn't even know the options were there!10:54
dougskook, you guys are picking apart my words too much, im sorry i said anything....nevermind10:54
[A] ndy80phiqtion: I'm using that wifi card in this moment :)10:54
pittionkarshinde: tricky; it is not actually designed for stepwise operation10:54
naliothfoXgamer: if you misconfigure your iptables, you'll be w/o network of any kind, and may not have a working box10:55
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onkarshindepitti: Doesn't it first download packages and then make an iso from them?10:55
TTilusdougsko: just trying to say: obscurity is a dead end10:55
phiqtion[A] ndy80, rock on! does it recognizes it automatically? or does it require any extra setup? btw. which laptop u got?10:55
pittionkarshinde: but you can just start it, kill it in between, and on the second attempt it should reuse the debs you already downloaded10:55
dougskoTTilus: its just a little somehting that CAN help some. thats all10:55
foXgamernalioth: Well, I've got firewall installed now, and everything (fingers crossed) is working okay. I like feeling safe :)10:55
Jedrickey man still wont play .dat file on totem-xine10:55
pittionkarshinde: it mixes; first it collects the debs you already have (make it scan in /var/cache/apt/archives, old CD images, and so on)10:56
onkarshindepitti: That is what I am trying to say. It should continue downloads of remainng of isos10:56
onkarshindeI mean packages10:56
foXgamerIf I don't see it doing anything, I'll take it off again.10:56
pittionkarshinde: then it downloads 10 debs, installs them into the iso, goto 110:56
phiqtioncan anyone shed me some light in the: Ubuntu/HP work10:56
TTilusdougsko: you should put your limited effort to things that WILL help, not to things that CAN help, gottcha?10:56
pittionkarshinde: I never tried this, but it should be possible10:56
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naliothfoXgamer: turn it off and visit grc.com and see what you get from it's port scanning tool10:56
naliothfoXgamer: then turn it on and visit again and see the difference10:56
aftertafhehe nalioth10:56
foXgamerokaly!10:56
Seveasnalioth, grc is an idiot10:56
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[A] ndy80phiqtion: automagically10:57
onkarshindephiqtion: I just know that I installed Hoary custom version on HP laptop and it works perfectly10:57
N6REJSeveas: any idea?10:57
aftertafSeveas:  home of the gibson hippies ?10:57
naliothSeveas: yes? his port scanner thing works well enough10:57
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SpiderManI'm looking for some help with reinitiating grub on my laptop, can anybody help ?10:57
SeveasN6REJ, no :)10:57
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N6REJSeveas: :P no {_}? for you!10:57
onkarshindeSpiderMan: What exactly do you need?10:57
Seveasnalioth, 'stealth' is nonsense and break all kinds of interrnet standards10:57
Seveasaftertaf, yup10:58
phiqtiononkarshinde, awesome! :D i got an hp dv1340us laptop. and all other distros wouldn't get the sound working and internet. :(. But breezy is here to save the day!10:58
onkarshindephiqtion: I am not sure they have made a custom breezy version yet. I tried Hoary.10:58
intelikeySpiderMan "man grub-install"10:58
Seveasnalioth, aftertaf http://grcsucks.com/ is quite interesting to read10:58
phiqtiononkarshinde, let's see how it works with breezy10:59
onkarshindephiqtion: Mine was HP Nx 6120. everything other than SD Card reader worked10:59
N6REJok, simple question... if I want a abreviated netmask for everything in the 192.168.2 network, is it 192.168.2./128 or???10:59
Jedrickhow to play .dat file ?10:59
aftertafgrc: The worrisome header contained in your request is:10:59
aftertafProxy-Connection: Keep-Alive10:59
onkarshindeJedrick: Did n't you read my reply? Either install totem-xine or vlc10:59
dougskowhat the heck is a gibson anyway?11:00
aftertafgrc is useful in a windows world for windows users using windows, right Seveas ?11:00
N6REJwww.grc.com11:00
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Seveasaftertaf, not even there11:00
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aftertafSeveas:  loool11:00
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Jedrickonkarshinde:  its not working.. i already ave vlc but it wont play.. and i do what you told me install the totem-xine.. and still it doesnt work11:00
SpiderManWell I run dual boot on my laptop, and just reinstalled Windows, and it overwrote the boot sector, so grub doesnt come u, how do I re-enable it11:00
foXgamerhmm. site recognised me with and without the firewall on.11:01
onkarshindeJedrick: Then most probably the file is corrupted. But still you can try installing w32codecs11:01
intelikeySpiderMan "man grub-install"11:01
onkarshinde!w32coddecs11:01
ubotuonkarshinde: I don't know11:01
onkarshinde!w32codecs11:01
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)11:01
SpiderManintelikey I cant get into linux ?11:01
Jedrickhow to isntall w32codecs?11:01
dougskofoXgamer: yes it will cause  you initiated contact wit it first11:01
[A] ndy80why libgda-common has broken deps on breezy? If I try to install it, it requires me to remove: gnome-app-install gnome-blog libgda2-3 libgda2-common libgnome-cil libgnomedb2-4 libgnomedb2-common monodoc monodoc-browser python-gnome2-extras11:01
intelikeySpiderMan grub-install is how you reinstall it.11:01
SpiderManso I cant type man-grub-install11:01
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Trashcan!tell jedrick about restricted formats11:02
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intelikeySpiderMan use a boot disk.11:02
foXgamerdougsko: I went in with it off, went out, turned it on and went back in. Is there something else I should have done?11:02
onkarshindeJedrick: Doesnload the package from the above link and then command 'sudo dpkg --install filename.deb'11:02
Jedricki already have w32codes. w32codecs is already the newest version.11:02
foXgamerCan't SpiderMan use the cd that he installed ubuntu with and re-install grub that way?11:02
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Jedricki already installed the w32codecs11:02
intelikeyJedrick yes that is a boot disk....11:03
aftertaf" his entire site is full of emotional manipulation, misinformation, and misdirection"11:03
shreevatsaJedrick, so what do you want?11:03
Jedricki want to play a .dat file11:03
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dougskono, just turn it on, unless you have any services running, you dont have to configure anything. basically you cant connect to whoever you want, but your kernel will simply drop packets from anyone else trying to connect to you11:03
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foXgameraftertaf: where's that quote from?11:03
frickelIs it possible to watch DVD with Ubuntu??11:03
dougsko* you can connect to whoever you want, sorry11:04
poningru!tell frickel about dvd11:04
jnoonhey i just installed ubuntu, last time i used it was warty or something.. i now have the preview release... is adding stuff all supposed to be done through this Add Applications program now? i used to use synaptic.. is that not the way to do it anymore or is it?11:04
frickelthx for the bot11:04
aftertaffoXgamer:  grcsucks website11:04
foXgamerhehe11:04
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poningrufrickel: just /msg ubotu !hoary-extras11:04
poningrufrickel: if you want to know more11:04
Jedrickhow can i play .dat file movie11:05
nalioth_zZzponingru: no ! in a pm to ubotu11:05
poningruoh true11:05
poningrumy bad11:05
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poningrufrickel: just /msg ubotu hoary-extras11:05
nalioth_zZzponingru: your gonna have ubotu sellin crack11:05
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poningrurofl11:05
onkarshindejnoon: Synaptic is the way. Add applications will just give you options for some default set packages11:05
jnoononkarshinde, thanks!11:05
frickelpoingru: I use breezy11:06
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shreevatsaJedrick, do you have mplayer installed? just asking...11:06
frickel!tell frickel about hoary-extras11:06
Jedrickyes i have11:06
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frickel(sry, forgot my pwd)11:06
N6REJIf I say 192.168.2.0/24 does that cover everything in the 192.168.2.x ?11:07
Jedrickim trying to play .dat file from a cd11:07
jnoononkarshinde, should i have more than universe in my repos?11:07
shreevatsaJedrick, what happens when you try "mplayer <name of the file>"?11:07
nightswimN6REJ: yes11:07
poningru!tell frickel about hoary-extras11:07
poningruwoah thats def not it11:08
Jedrickthe name of the file is avseq01.dat11:08
N6REJnightswim.. TYVM... I never did get a good grip on the netmasking thing.11:08
poningrufrickel: hold on that is wrong11:08
Jedrickwhen i try to play it on mplayer.. ammm it wont play dude11:08
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shreevatsaJedrick, Yeah, so what happens when you type, in the terminal, "mplayer avseq01.dat"?11:08
poningrufrickel: if you are using breazy just turn on the multiverse and universe11:08
foXgamerJedrick: What errors do you get when you try and play it?11:08
poningrufrickel: in synaptic11:09
frickelshould be on11:09
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poningrufrickel: then just install libdvdcss11:10
poningruI think11:10
onkarshindejnoon: You may want to add hoary-extras (or breezy-extras) and hoary-backport (or breezy-backport) repos.11:10
poningru!dvd11:10
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras11:10
jnoonthanks11:10
poningrulibdvdcss211:10
poningruinstall that package11:10
foXgamerponingru: livdvdcss2? That's news to me!11:10
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poningruthere is no breazy-backports11:11
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onkarshindeponingru: Of course it will be when breezy is released11:11
Ngyou don't need to add any crazy -extras repositories to get dvd-css11:11
Ngthere's a script installed by default11:12
Ng/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh11:12
poningruright not gonna happen for atleast couple of weeks11:12
Ng /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh if you install libdvdread311:12
poningruonkarshinde: ^^^^11:12
aftertafSeveas:  grcsucks..... :)   a lot of info on there, raw sockets, false security debate and handicapped networking!11:12
Ngand to be frank, -extras repositories are a nightmare ;)11:12
frickelpoingru: there is no libdvdcss, but Universe seems to be there11:12
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foXgamerI have a link which has all the .rpm's of libdvd :D11:12
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gibsonhey man11:12
foXgamerhey mel!11:12
onkarshindeNg: I never had problem with extra repos.11:12
foXgamerlol11:13
Ngonkarshinde: how wonderful for you :)11:13
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onkarshindefoXgamer: rpm don't work out of box11:13
onkarshindefoXgamer: you need deb11:13
SeveasNg, if you pick the right repos or simply download single .debs you have no problem :)11:13
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foXgamercan't you use Alien on them?11:13
siimohow do you guys create .ps files in linux ? in openoffice - tried generic printer but the ps that came out was totally blank11:13
NgSeveas: single .debs is fine, but adding repos seems to me to generally cause more problems than it solves if you aren't especially clued up11:13
frickelisn't Library for decoding ATSC A/52 streams. also fine??11:14
poningruSeveas: did we take out all legally questionable stuff from the universe?11:14
cafuego_Dude, you cna generate a libdvdcss deb from the script that comes with libdvdread311:14
poningruor was that always in the multiverse?11:14
SeveasNg, true :)11:14
onkarshindefoXgamer: Yes, you can. But I don't think the person who asked the question was so much used to ubuntu. That is why extra repos11:14
frickelUniverse or Multiverse???11:14
intelikeyprint to file11:14
foXgamerah.11:14
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poningrufrickel: check to see if the script that Ng said about it there11:14
cafuego_!find install-css.sh11:15
Nglibdvdread3: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh11:15
foXgamerSo this law thingy. Is it just the American side this relates to? I've never heard of it until recently. Never been a problem before.11:15
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'install-css.sh' (1 shown): (/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh) in libs/libdvdread3.11:15
cafuego_Install, run, done.11:15
poningrufrickel: try that11:15
frickelok11:16
poningrucafuego_: why cant we replace that for running !dvd?11:16
poningruin ubotu I mean11:16
cafuego_foXgamer: The US law now applies almost everywhere else too. Did you miss the "free trade agreement" news?11:16
frickelpoingru: it is not11:16
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aftertafwhy would a 5.04 or 5.10 install cd install lilo instead of grub? any reasons?11:16
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cafuego_poningru: WHy should I? Why can't you?11:16
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Ngaftertaf: are you booting off a raid array or something odd like that?11:16
poningrucafuego_: I was asking wether its ok or not11:16
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foXgamercafuego: uhm. yup! never heard of it.11:17
cafuego_aftertaf: xfs disk? logical volumes?11:17
poningrucafuego_: because running a script is not user friendly11:17
poningruwell end user friendly11:17
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aftertafahh ;) ok cafuego_ cheers ;)11:17
intelikeyaftertaf only if you select lilo...11:17
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cafuego_poningru: File a bug on libdvdread3 and demand a gui thingie for it <heh>11:17
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poningrucafuego_: hehe I guess11:17
Admiral_Snyderhi there11:17
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poningruattention on deck11:17
Admiral_Snyder*g*11:18
cafuego_aftertaf: Note that if you have root on lvm, you will need to 'rm /dev/dm' each time you upgrade the lilo boot record11:18
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Admiral_Snyderwhy did i knew this would happen?11:18
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poningruhey with a name like that11:18
poningru:)11:18
Admiral_Snyderhehe11:18
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Admiral_Snyderthis is the ubuntu support - channel, right?11:18
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poningruyeah dude11:19
intelikeykinda11:19
aftertafcafuego_:  ok. a kubuntu user with the cd got lilo installed instead.    no volumes though (but he might be wrong and not realise it)11:19
poningrufrickel: so that install script didnt work?11:19
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foXgamerhmm. install-css.sh worked fine right until the end.11:19
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cafuego_aftertaf: probably lvm OR xfs.11:19
frickelpoingru: please wait, I still try11:19
Admiral_Snyderallright. i'm afraid, i need support (well, help might be more right)...11:19
cafuego_foXgamer: Yes, it needs to run through sudo.11:19
intelikeyaftertaf you can choose lilo or grub while installing.11:19
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poningruAdmiral_Snyder: just ask the question11:20
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cafuego_intelikey: Not on the default install, it just picks what it thinks is appropriate.11:20
intelikeyyes you can11:20
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Admiral_Snyderthe most simple question is: why does the ping command try to ping throug my eth2, even though the network cable is at eth1?11:20
intelikeyi've done it11:20
aftertafcafuego_:  its a windows user who shrunk his ntfs partition to install kubuntu11:20
cafuego_intelikey: on breezy Colony4 anyway11:20
foXgamercafuego: Through sudo? You mean log in with sudo?11:20
Siropelmailing webhosts about their servers security problems is a good thing ?11:20
SeveasSiropel, yes11:20
gibsonwhat do u think guys, go to be for like 2.5 hours, or just stay up and go to class at 8 am?11:20
poningruSiropel: a very good thing11:20
cafuego_foXgamer: 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'11:21
foXgamerah. Thank you.11:21
Admiral_Snyder(i do only have a bash on that machine, no gnome at all...)11:21
Tomcat_gibson: Throw a coin :)11:21
intelikeysimply refuse to enter the correct info and it falls back to expert mode.....11:21
cafuego_intelikey: It didn't ask on my last 2 installs.11:21
intelikeysimply refuse to enter the correct info and it falls back to expert mode.....11:21
Bergcubegibson~  Stay up, drink coffee, take it like a man.11:21
cafuego_intelikey: the amd64 just installed grub and the laptop just installed lilo.11:21
Belutzgibson, stay up :D11:21
gibsonyeah thats what im thinking11:21
TTilus$ acroread foo.pdf11:21
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TTilus/usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: No file or directory.11:21
Siropeli just spent half hour today by mailing alot of them, found alot of hosts connected on irc, that belong to dreamhost and etc11:21
gibsonhowever, Seveas, i still dont know what a gibson is....11:21
foXgamerAdmiral_Snyder: I know how it's done with gnome, but not from bash :(11:21
cafuego_TTilus: $ evince foo.pdf11:22
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intelikeydon't know why it would default to lilo. but you can select cafuego_11:22
aftertafcafuego_:  intelikey is there a fdisk command to check if disk is dynamic or not? (still somewhat n00b.....)11:22
TTilusand that line 12 is11:22
TTilus/usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread "$@"11:22
cafuego_gibson: OH MY GOD!11:22
Admiral_Snyderthat's why i mentioned it...*g*11:22
aftertafhe said it wouldnt take grub11:22
Seveasgibson, read grcsucks.com11:22
gibsonif you can call me one, you can tell me where its from11:22
cafuego_aftertaf: 'df'11:22
gibsonok11:22
aftertafdf willdo that? really? ok :)11:22
cafuego_gibson: "hack the planet!"11:22
TTiluscafuego_: evince?11:22
cafuego_aftertaf: it will tell you what device root is, so yes.11:22
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Seveascafuego_, which planet? Planet Ubuntu?11:23
cafuego_TTilus: open source pdf reader11:23
frickelpoingru: I'm now install libdvdcss11:23
cafuego_Seveas: planet gibson.11:23
Admiral_Snyderdoes anybody of you know a special channel of german language? not that i want to leave here, but if it becomes more complicated...11:23
TTilusand there is no /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread11:23
Seveashehe11:23
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foXgamernope cafuego. same error message. lol.11:23
cafuego_Seveas: Actually, Planet Ultra.11:23
TTiluscafuego_: ah, related to xpdf?11:23
cafuego_!de11:23
Tomcat_Admiral_Snyder: #ubuntu-de11:23
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe11:23
SeveasTTilus, it's in /usr/local/lib -- where did you install acroread from?11:23
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TTiluscafuego_: does it have firefox plugin?11:23
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cafuego_TTilus: Ah, no...11:23
Admiral_Snyderthank you.11:23
TTilusbut, but, there _is_ /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread.sh11:24
frickelpoingru: the configure givrs me a: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check11:24
frickel, but cpp should be installed!!11:24
poningruhmm11:24
gibsonhaha, very funny....11:24
intelikeynot that i know of aftertaf but if you supply the wrong address durring install it refuses to install (actually fails) and falls through to expert mode menu so you can run "install grub" or "install lilo" or any other step again.11:24
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Seveasfrickel, apt-get install build-essential11:24
aftertafbe11:25
TTilusln -s acroread.sh acroread11:25
TTilusand now i get ERROR: Cannot find installation directory.11:25
swamychadsl problem11:25
frickelok11:25
GangsterHey, I'm trying to get my Kubuntu to install, and I wanted to know if there is any special parameter that I should add when trying to get my IBM ThinkCentre to boot it up?11:25
gibsonim gonna get some smokes, "dont get hacked while im gone"...haha11:26
YeTr3Gangster, only if it doesn't work the first two times11:26
frickelSeveas: There had been missing some parts...11:26
GangsterIt didn't.11:26
phiqtionis the RC gonna change in 2 days? im currently downloading it now and wouldnt want to download again. thanks11:26
swamychwhat about breezy11:26
Tomcat_phiqtion: It'll be final then. :)11:26
poningruGangster: also make sure that you have a good cd11:26
YeTr3Gangster, ok, what part of te setup did it crash on?11:26
GangsterI do.11:26
poningruGangster: if you burned it yourself then you should check it11:26
Seveasphiqtion, yes, bugs are still being fixed but you don't have to download the iso again, just use apt-get upgrade to upgrade the changed packages11:26
GangsterIt doesn't go past boot: loading /install/vmlinuz11:27
GangsterI did check it.11:27
poningruoh11:27
poningruhmm11:27
aftertafhe has checked the md5.11:27
TTilusHa!  Now I found it.  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21733.html11:27
YeTr3hmm11:27
foXgamerwhen I installed, mine hung for ages on vmlinuz. I just left it and it eventually carried on.11:27
GangsterHmm.11:28
YeTr3I would suggest disabling every advanced feature possible..11:28
foXgamerdon't know if that helps Gangster.11:28
TTilusAcobat reader 5 is simply broken, not me or my installation11:28
GangsterHow would I go about doing that?11:28
phiqtionSeveas, how much will the package in MB total will be aprox.? thx11:28
aftertafGangster:  BIOS...... and if you have more than one mem chip, try removing one (could be a bit dicky)11:28
Seveasphiqtion, no idea, depends on what changes11:28
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poningruGangster: he means update your BIOS11:29
Seveasif they change OO.o, the kernel and xorg again it can come close to 200 MB11:29
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YeTr3where grub asks what kernel image to boot off the cd, normally, you would just push enter, or let it time out and carry on, instead edit the kernel line to contain all the kernel 'cheat codes' or how ever you decide to label them11:29
poningruSeveas: we upgrade using diff right?11:29
poningruon a users computer11:29
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phiqtionSeveas, with your personal experience in linux. what can change in 2 days?11:30
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Seveasponingru, no, you use apt-get upgrade :)11:30
frickelpoingru: what was the console order to install a deb package....11:30
Trashcandpkg -i thedeb11:30
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frickelthx11:30
Trashcanscuse me... sudo dpkg -i thedeb11:30
YeTr3frickel, `sudo apt-get install 'package'`11:31
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frickelYeTr3: yes, but I have a debian package here11:31
YeTr3meh, I'm alittle slow right now... gimmie another 20 minutes and I'll have processed all of the information11:31
intelikeyapt is just a front end for dpkg11:31
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poningruSeveas: for example if there is a 200 KB lib and its being upgraded the new one is 240 KB does the user download 40KB or 240KB?11:33
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poningruI am on too fast a connection to notice11:33
Seveasphiqtion, everything :)11:33
Ng240KB11:33
poningruic11:33
Ngthere are no binary package patches11:33
Seveasponingru, 240kb + the control files11:33
intelikeyactually i havent tested it to see, maybe some one else has; but apt-get should accept literal addressing as well as package names.11:33
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poningruwhy isnt it 40 + control files?11:33
poningrufirefox is doing this currently11:33
Ngponingru: binary patches are bad news11:33
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ericknalioth, just try the smart boot manager and download it, then on the 2nd procedure need to make boot floopy using rawwrite, is 2nd option really need or just to create SmartBootManager is enough11:33
poningruNg: why?11:33
Ngponingru: there is far more scope for them to go wrong11:33
poningruerr explain please11:34
poningruic11:34
YeTr3poningru, dependencies can be easily broken if not everyone is using the same version of the file, which happens often11:34
SeveasI have been thinking about a way to change this (using something I call partial debs) and will make a suggestion to the devs once my ideas settle :)11:34
intelikeye.g. apt-get install /home/blah/packagename.deb should work.11:34
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poningruSeveas: in time for dapper?11:34
TTilusAcrobat reader plugin now works.  Happy, happy, joy, joy!11:35
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poningruTTilus: why didnt you just use evince?11:35
NgSeveas: is it really worth the effort? network is getting constantly cheaper/faster11:35
poningruNg: thats for us11:35
NgSeveas: if people care that much it might be easier to make it easy to setup your own autobuilder and they can just grab cvs diffs or something ;)11:35
Seveasponingru, probably not since it would require MASSIVE infrastructure changes11:35
YeTr3TTilus, I dislike acrobat reader as it does not function at all with my cups server beyond versions of +6.x11:35
TTilusponingru: I'm using xpdf as standalone reader11:35
erickhi Ng11:35
Nghey11:35
TTilusponingru: I wanted firefox plugin11:36
phiqtiondoes Wine work well with Ubuntu?11:36
SeveasNg, I think downloading 50 MB (the kernel) when one file (1kb) changed is stupid...11:36
poningruTTilus: ic11:36
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poningruNg: many people in 3rd world countries will not have high speed for a while11:36
TTilusYeTr3: ack, do you know about other browser-pdf-plugins than acrobat11:36
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poningrusame for many rural places in developed countries too11:36
intelikeyponingru yeah like arkansas11:37
intelikey:)11:37
YeTr3TTilus, not in Win3211:37
poningrurofl11:37
NgSeveas: thats a pretty corner cae though, how often has the kernel been updated in the life of hoary? and how many were actually necessay individually?11:37
YeTr3Seveas, then don't update it unless there is a fix or something that applies to you.11:37
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DjKriticalbreezy kicks ass!11:37
Ngargh, my keyboard batter is dying11:37
SeveasNg, same for openoffice, X, you name it...11:37
TTilusYeTr3: why are we suddenly talking about win?11:37
Seveasshaving 99% off your downloads is a lot11:37
YeTr3TTilus, acrobat reader +6.x on win32 does not print to my linux cups server, it refuses to.11:38
TTilusYeTr3: ach11:38
gibsonman, i deep fired some chicken wings yesterday, and my apartment reeks like delicicious fired chicken. but it is getting old, and kinda gross....11:38
NgSeveas: X is modularising more, that problem goes away11:38
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Seveasng, no11:38
gibson*fried, sorry i just cannot spell11:38
NgSeveas: what happens if the user is several revisions behind? they could actually end up downloading more than being able to skip to the very latest and just download that11:38
Seveasif the source package is rebuilt, all binary packages have a newer version11:38
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intelikeyi have a question.     i don't start x very often so cli is always the env.   why does ub not recognize windows keys by default ?11:39
TTilusNg: rdiff updates would still be cool11:39
Ngmost updates to stable simply don't apply to most users11:39
SeveasNg, so if xorg-driver-foo changes the COMPLETE xorg needs to be re-downloaded11:39
NgTTilus: I think the nightmare aspect would overrule the cool aspect ;)11:39
NgSeveas: that's insane and unnecessary11:39
foXgamergibson: That's really grose. Don't you have windows? lol11:39
SeveasNg, exactly11:39
YeTr3intelikey, because they are not mapped to any special purpose by default, you would need to map them yourself11:39
gibsonlol11:39
foXgamergot your smokes then?11:40
NgSeveas: I was under the impression though that that is going away11:40
Jedrickhow can i play .dat file movie ?11:40
gibsonoh yeah11:40
gibsonim good11:40
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poningruJedrick: dude it should play in anything that plays mpg11:40
TTilusNg: don't necessarily think so, rdiff could be done against deb cache, not to filesystem directly11:40
foXgamernothing plays mpeg on my machine11:40
aftertafseems that grub cant always be instaled on a windows laptop having just one disk.11:40
irvini recently upgraded my kernel image from 386 to 686, suddenly some apps like blender, and ppracer don't work11:41
poningruaftertaf: what do you mean?11:41
NgTTilus: hmm?11:41
intelikeyYeTr3 other distros recognizes them and they are r.win=alt+r.arrow  l.win=alt+l.arrow   very handy for console users.11:41
SpiderManaftertaf speaking of that . . .11:41
gibsongonna throw on some more coffee, i made the mistake of drinking whiskey and beer to make me sleepy after drinking coffee earlier, before i decided to stay up11:41
TrewasJedrick: if the .dat file is in a cd, sounds like it is a (s)vcd, so you should play that with command "mplayer vcd://1". The .dat-file cannot be played directly because vcds do not have normal filesystems, and the video-files are in separate tracks11:41
irvinglxgears spits Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:41
irvinError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual11:41
gibsonwhat's you guys' favorite native linux game?11:42
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aftertafsupertux11:42
Ngtribes2!11:42
aftertafmy 9 year old loves it :)11:42
gibsonyeah supertux is sweet11:42
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Trashcanlol11:42
YeTr3intelikey, different distrobutions have different beliefs on how a default setup of linux should look like. Ubuntu is one of the only distrobutions I've seen that doesn't let you have the root accunt by default, rather, and uses sudo for all the administrative tasks11:42
gibsoni wish it supported a controller though11:42
foXgamerhey SpiderMan. Didn't notice you back! Did you get it all sorted?11:42
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gibsonYeTr3: yeah it is kinda wierd11:42
YeTr3it doesn't mean it can't be changed by the end user thou11:43
gibsontrue11:43
gibsonbut it really doesnt need to be11:43
intelikeyyeah.  well server default install   or any expert install fixes that.11:43
SpiderManfoXgamer nothing, how did I initiate the grub install from the ubuntu cd ?11:44
gibsonjust gotta make sure you pick an extra  good password for your regular account, or am i just being a "gibson" again ;)11:44
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SpiderManor should I use another dist cd ?11:44
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Seveasgibson, you should always use good passwords :)11:44
foXgamerhmm. I thought it may have picked up that it was already installed.11:44
gibsonlol11:44
foXgamerI'll see if I can find any info for you SpiderMan11:45
foXgamerhehe. I never thought I would say that!11:45
Seveas....says a guy (me) who uses passwords like qwertyuiop11:45
intelikeyand you're right YeTr3, ub is 100% geared toword gui.   kinda like windows(R)11:45
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Seveas /kick intelikey11:45
poningruSeveas: let me know if you need my any help hashing that thing out11:45
SpiderManthanks foXgamer, I am trying to use the livecd, maybe go that route round, but I can remember the command to turn off my PCMCIA, coz it keeps hanging there11:45
Seveas:p11:46
YeTr3intelikey, actually, I normally don't use the gui11:46
foXgamerSpiderMan: So are you using the computer at the mo?11:46
intelikey"gui thats that thing for looking at pictures isn't it?"11:46
SpiderManyeh I am actually in the windows side of things11:46
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SpiderMancoz I reinstalled the windows side yesterday and it overwrote the boot sector11:47
YeTr3while in linux, I'm normally sitting infront of a bash console..11:47
foXgamerSpiderMan: Do you have the live cd?11:47
phiqtion"why have the window when you can have the full house" :P11:47
gibsonbash is nice, anyone else have a fav. shell?11:47
aftertafYeTr3:  yet we insist on having 3D graphics cards.... makes NO sense at all :)11:47
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renatosansevero200.206.255.17211:47
phiqtionFOR FREE! sorry caps... lol11:48
Cicakmanhas anyone ever installed postgresql in ubuntu?11:48
irvini recently upgraded my kernel image from 386 to 686, suddenly some apps like blender, and ppracer don't work11:48
irvinglxgears spits Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:48
irvinError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual11:48
SpiderManyeh i do11:48
CicakmanSpiderMan: r u replying to me?11:48
aftertafirvin:  install the restricted modules package for your processor type and kernel number11:48
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YeTr3and it'll be like that untill I manage to implant a USB HID interface in the base of my skull, connected to my brain so I can just walk around and jack into any PC I want to and work without the needs of using my hands11:48
zenroxirvin,  did you install linux-restricted-modules-686 too11:48
foXgamerSpiderMan: Cool. If you go to http://www.shahidhussain.com/wordpress/index.php?p=33 that gives instructions. If that doesn't help, come back :)11:49
SpiderMansorry Cicakman, no to foX11:49
aftertafirvin:  ^^ zenrox gave you the right name.....11:49
SpiderMansweet, thanks11:49
gibsonirvin: i tried blender for a little, but it pretty tough11:49
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irvinaftertaf, zenrox, gibson yes11:49
foXgamerwhat's the diff between 386 and 686 kernels anyhoo?11:49
gibsoncycas is a pretty cool 3d cad pog with rendering capabilities11:49
Lickeranyone got a spare minute to figure some things out about my ubuntu web server11:49
SeveasfoXgamer, cpu optimizations11:50
SeveasLicker, just ask questions :)11:50
foXgamerah.11:50
zenroxirvin,  didja ge your nvidia or ati card a little modprob ing11:50
gnomefreak686=64bit?11:50
zenroxgnomefreak,  no11:50
YeTr3gnomefreak, no11:50
intelikeyno11:50
foXgamer64bit=64bit. hehe11:51
gnomefreaklol11:51
YeTr3x86_6411:51
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YeTr3ia6411:51
irvini'll did some xorg.conf edits brbr11:51
aftertafirvin:  ok...... not a "x wont start" problem..... but a 3D bug b....11:51
intelikeyx86=80x8611:51
TTilusgnomefreak: 686 is still x86 arch + some extensions11:51
erickwhat is different bet i386 i686 and i586, it defend on architecture? is i386 for pentium11:51
YeTr3intelikey, x86_64 is 64bit...11:51
gnomefreakoh ok11:52
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YeTr3yerah... I'm slow11:52
intelikeyya11:52
aftertafgnomefreak:  686 is Pentium 4 etc..... read linux-686 in synaptic for more info :)11:52
Ng686 is pentium2 upwards afair11:52
TTiluserick: different extensions to x86 arch11:52
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irvinahh finally11:52
aftertafNg:  hence the etc ;)11:52
larsbjarok, I'm completely new to linux, and need help getting Opera (web browser) to work. When I run Opera in terminal i get this:   /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:52
larsbjar    so i need this package, but how do I get it? help !11:52
zenroxi 386 = for a 386 cpu , i586= pent1 ,i686 = pent2 and above11:52
aftertafirvin:  you break your xorg?11:52
irvinaftertaf, no11:53
foXgamermy brain has stopped working. I need to go to bed :(11:53
crimsunlarsbjar: Breezy?11:53
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aftertafk7 = athlon, duron11:53
TTiluserick: correction: extensions to x86 instruction set11:53
larsbjaryes11:53
crimsunlarsbjar: you need libqt3-mt11:53
irvinnvidia-glx-config couldn't change nv to nvidia11:53
aftertaffoXgamer:  /etc/init.d/brain restart11:53
larsbjaryes, that one, but how?11:53
foXgamerlol11:53
Lickeri setup a web server right.  ( www.cnmafia.com ) well, it wont show the images i have there. (open it and click on a link/pic) they say you dont have permission to view them. i dont know why etc. Or what to do. I just strted using linux a bit ago and havnt learned all the commands etc yet. (got rid of crapy windows) :/11:53
zenroxirvin,  so its fixed now11:53
foXgamerif only11:53
gnomefreaklarsbjar: in terminal type "sudo apt-get install libqt-mt11:53
irvinso i changed it manually11:53
onkarshindeCan I expect OOo 2 beta in breezy to be updated when OOo2 final comes out?11:53
irvinzenrox, yes11:53
YeTr3i586 is the origional pentium only, after that, all the upgrades were i686 including pentiumMMX11:53
gnomefreakno qoutes11:53
zenroxirvin,  now try glxgears11:54
irvinthanks for the restricted-modules hint11:54
aftertafLicker:  where are the image files? ad what are the permissions on them/ their parent folder?11:54
zenroxn/p11:54
irvin:-)11:54
aftertafonkarshinde:  yes, in true debian style11:54
foXgamerif SpiderMan is still having problems. Can someone apologise and, well, help him. Gotta help these superheroes ya know.11:54
foXgamernn all!11:54
gibsontype ls -al in yr web root directory to see the permissions11:54
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irvinquit11:54
larsbjargnomefreak, then I get: could find package libqt-mt11:54
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aftertaflarsbjar:  apt-cache search libqt11:55
onkarshindeaftertaf: what does breezy installes by default? OOo2 beta or OOO 1?11:55
erickthank TTilus11:55
intelikeylicker you can chmod 644 /the-dir/where/they/are/*  and you should be able to view them.11:55
aftertafdunno.... b2 i think11:55
gibsonOOo 211:55
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zenroxOOo211:55
aftertafwhich is quite stable11:55
erick00o2 beta11:55
gibsonyeah its a very nice office suite11:56
Cicakmandamn... apt-get upgrade breaks my ubuntu (breezy badger)11:56
intelikeyLicker "man chmod " to learn more about permissions.11:56
Cicakmanall icons are gone11:56
aftertafCicakman:  notnormal at all.11:56
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gnomefreakyou may have to add the .so.3 but it worked fine for me without that part11:56
denialc ya11:56
aftertafCicakman:  re update and dist-upgrade11:56
gibsonLicker: or google 'chmod usage' to get some examples11:56
aftertafor install kde ;)11:56
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aftertaf(shameless plug)11:56
Cicakmanaftertaf: did that... and it says no update available11:57
gibsonaftertaf: do u use kubuntu?11:57
aftertafyep11:57
gibsonwhat do u think?11:57
aftertafCicakman:  weird.....11:57
intelikeyalso apache can set uid but i'm not a net-tech can't help with that.11:57
aftertafgibson:  fantastic ;)11:57
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aftertafand 3.5 beta is looking lovely (even on a P3 500 laptop)11:58
erickGuys are familiar with the Book of Postfix?11:58
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gibsoncool, ive used 3.4 and i did like it11:58
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gnomefreaklarsbjar: here do #1 on this  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36432611:58
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gibsonso where are you guys from that it's not 6 am where you are?11:59
gibsonor is it :)11:59
gnomefreakit is here :(11:59
vengeful11am11:59
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aftertafmidday (in france)12:00
vengefuli live in a real time zone12:00
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vengefulwe british invented time you know..12:00
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Josthi.. im having problems getting an ip address. bought a new motherboard from asrock dual sata 2.. with uli 1695 chipset.. anybody been having the same problems? btw installed the breezy rc.. still no sucess!12:00
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gnomefreakif you read down on that thread will help with the libs12:00
intelikeyhmmm  [02:29pm] [intelikey]    <--- maybe it's time to set my clock......12:00
vengefulproblem getting an ip address?12:00
gibsonyeah ya did...lol12:00
vengefulusing a router?12:00
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lemics_@vengeful then its time to get rid of Blair12:00
vengefulahh hes ok12:00
vengefulcould be worse12:01
Jostyep using a router12:01
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vengefuloh dhcp?12:01
vengefulor you manually doing it?12:01
Jostdhcp si senor12:01
gnomefreaksince when does motherboard have anything to do with ur ip address?12:01
vengefulkinda wondering that myself hehe12:01
gibsonwhat does ifconfig give you?12:01
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gnomefreaki thought router/modem had all that info12:01
intelikeystep time server 130.236.254.106 offset 138645.651337 sec12:01
erickGuys Im installing the default installation of ubuntu in my 486 do you think it will run?12:01
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intelikeyi guess it was kinda off.....12:02
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lemics_it should12:02
gibsonerick: only one way to find out...12:02
YeTr3intelikey, all my clocks perpetually blink 12:0012:02
intelikeysure will. erick12:02
xukunI installed ubuntu on xp laptop on a other partion but I get the massege hal.dll is missing if I try to boot to xp. any idea's?12:02
Jostthe lan interface is on the motherboard .. just wondering if there is still no hardware support for my mb on ubuntu12:02
xukunanybody?12:02
intelikeyonly the gui will be slugish12:02
teohhow to set another charset in my xterm w/irssi?12:02
erickgibson, intelkey hope it will cause i will use it for my workstation12:03
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gnomefreakjost: can you connect to internet with that pc?12:03
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larsbjarok, its libqt3-mt not libqt-mt appearently :) thanks people12:03
gibsonerick: it really should, dont worry12:03
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YeTr3xukun, reinstall XP or get a hacked live disk version of XP to replace the 'hal.dll' file with as right now linux kernel does not have the writing support to ntfs that you reqire12:04
basti__How do I change the keylayout that is being used at login?12:04
intelikeyif you are a cli kinda guy you'll love it erick,  but if you are one of those gui only people. you will probably boot it one time and repartition......12:04
Jostnope that is the prob.. im stuck on windoze to connect to the internet..12:04
gibsonbasti__:reconfigure X?12:04
gnomefreakjost: what does ifconfig give you for output?12:05
intelikeyhow much ram does it have erick ?12:05
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basti__but my keylayout isnt in there (I use Swedish Dvorak)12:05
erickintelikey its not for me, I will try to implement this on my network and used it for my company12:05
erickmemory 100 dont know12:06
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Jostill have to get back to you on that one..12:06
intelikeymaking a server out of it ?     yeah that will work.12:06
gnomefreakifconfig should list your ip addresses for most part12:06
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Josti know.. but im on win right now so i cant run ifconfig12:07
xukunYeTr3, hacked live cd of xp?12:07
gnomefreaki understand that i was just letting you know12:07
gibson/etc/network/interfaces contains all the network setup stuff, just edit it with nano12:08
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gnomefreaki dont ever remember seeing a live xp version :(12:08
Lickerintelikey:  and gibson: I said a SPARE Minute for a reason. I dont want to read a whole shit load of stuff. Alls I was asking for is some help/examples.  Sheesh.12:08
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Lickerintelikey: I have chmod 777 atm12:08
gibsonthen do ifconfig eth0 down, ifconfig eth0 up, that's assuming your configuring eth0 interface12:08
erickI dont thinkd there is a live cd for windows12:08
intelikeyi've got a 486 lappy with no cdrom no network and only 248m hd  24m ram   i loaded mdk9 on it by floppys and run cli (no X)12:09
Cicakmani'm at the point of banging my head with installing postgresql @ ubuntu. I dont know how to start the server......12:09
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shawarmaI ordered a bunch of CD's a couple of weeks back, and on shipit it says they were sent to shipping company, but I was ordering Breezy CD's.. How does that add up?12:09
poningruCicakman: you sure its not running already?12:09
poningrucause most servers start up when you install em12:09
poningruerr12:09
intelikeyLicker like i said if you have apache doing some suid stuff there, i can't help ya.12:09
poningrunot exactly but...12:09
Cicakmanponingru: doing ps -u root doesnt show any postgresql12:10
poningruhmm12:10
poningruhold on12:10
poningruhow did you install?12:10
poningrucompile? or deb?12:10
Cicakmanthrough synaptic....12:10
poningruok cool12:10
poningruhold on just a sec12:10
gnomefreakshawarma: did you order one of the packages of cds? or did you make a custom order?12:10
shawarmagnomefreak: Custom.12:10
gibsonsorry Licker, but there could be a few things causing the problem12:11
gnomefreakshawarma:  they are sending the order to the company prolly to ok ur order12:11
gnomefreakcustom arnt automaticlly accepted12:11
intelikeyerick odd you should mention "<erick> I dont thinkd there is a live cd for windows" i made one one time.....    it can be done.  or at least could with win9x.12:11
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Cicakmanponingru: r u still there? sorry.. x-chat just crashed12:12
shawarmagnomefreak: I know.. It just sounds weird that they "sent it to shipping company" when the CD's don't exist yet.12:12
asranielhi all. does any one know how to tell alsa to use the second sound card as the primary one?12:12
gnomefreakshawarma: concider that a good thing that they are working on it befor the cds are out :)12:13
poningruCicakman: yep12:13
poningruCicakman: what package did you install exactly?12:13
shawarmagnomefreak: Heh.. That's true.12:13
Cicakmani tried postgresql-8.0.. it didnt work12:14
Cicakmanso i went to postgresql-7.4.. didn't work as well12:14
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SpiderManfoXgamer I can boot any type of linux at all, keeps hanging on my pcmcia card ?12:14
poningruhmm12:14
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poningruCicakman: what do you meant didnt work?12:14
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poningruI thought you said you installed it12:15
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Cicakmanpostgresql server wasnt running12:15
poningruoh12:15
poningrugotcha12:15
intelikeyCicakman try booting with "nopcmcia"12:15
Cicakmani.e. running createuser or any postgresql commands say that it couldnt connect12:15
gibsonSpiderMan: i know that you can boot kanotix with the option pcmcia=off, but im new to ubuntu, so i dont know how to do it here12:15
poningruCicakman: try what intelikey said12:16
gibson*sorry to plug another distro here...12:16
Cicakmanintelikey: hmmm... interesting there.. but how do i do that, and i 'm not sure if i understand how that is related to my problem ....12:16
SpiderMani remember it being something like nopcmcia=yes, or pcmcia=false ?12:16
C-Keenhm...12:17
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icemanhi anyone has an asus laptop?12:17
intelikeySpiderMan it depends on whether you are passing the command to the kernel or an installer.   for the kernel it should be boot: <linux-kernel?> nopcmcia [enter] 12:17
Oetzihi12:18
gibsonhi Oetzi12:18
SpiderManfound it, its hw-detect/start_pcmcia=flase12:18
intelikeywhere linux-kernel is what ever kernel you are bootine.12:18
Oetzii have a problem with audacity12:18
intelikeyi do to.12:19
intelikeyoh ......   ;/12:19
Oetzithe font looks really strang12:19
C-KeenI am having troubles with burning an isoimage. using cdrecord it tells me that space on the cd is not enough for my image (which is 200MB) the cd is a new fresh-unwrapped-800MB CD-R..any suggestions?12:19
SpiderManjust totally off the topic though, do you guys know how I can set the volume on alsa at startup ?12:19
HrdwrBobSpiderMan: alsactl save12:19
C-KeenSpiderMan: usually with alsactl12:19
gibsonC-Keen: use k3b12:19
C-Keengibson: I did. which does not change a thing (k3b uses cdrecord as backend)12:20
intelikeySpiderMan install aumix and run it from console it saves the volume settings.12:20
HrdwrBobC-Keen: right click it12:20
HrdwrBobpress write to disk12:20
gibsonhmm...12:20
pacchettohaw can I change the nickname password on the irc server?12:20
C-KeenHrdwrBob: I did that too. then it complains about the image being too big for the media12:20
SpiderMansweety thanks guys, i wish all techie help was this quick, (nothing aimed at Microsoft)12:20
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TrewasC-Keen: maximum length of CD is 700MB, 800MB CDs are a kludge working against standard and you may have to enable overburn in the program you use for burning12:20
C-KeenTrewas: oh...ok thanks12:21
JDigitalMaybe you're out of hard drive space to make a temporary CD image to?12:21
intelikeyHrdwrBob yeah alsactl    that too.    i keep forgetting it.....12:21
Cicakmanintelikey: could you tell me why i need to have that nopcmcia?12:21
gibsonTrewas: i never knew that12:21
TrewasI have some 800MB tdk CDs with fail to burn with the same whine about image being too large if -overburn flag is not used with cdrecord12:21
icemanno asus laptops here?12:22
JDigitalHe says his problem here is burning 200MB.12:22
haihello everyone.12:22
gibsonhey hai12:22
JDigitalhi hai12:22
lemics_hi hai12:23
intelikeyCicakman that wasn't for you. it was for SpiderMan12:23
bimberiCicakman: what does "sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql status" output?12:23
intelikeyi had to scroll back up and see who it was.....12:23
haii have a simple question: i'm trying to get my cpd e500 monitor to run at 1920X1200.  er, being that i just installed ubuntu hours ago, can anyone tell me what i should put into the etc/X11/xorg.conf file?12:23
haioh, hello!12:23
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asranielhi, what is the easiest way to make a whole partition rw for every user? now its only for the root rw, others have only r. i tried this, but it doesent worksudo chmod -R +777 *12:24
C-KeenTrewas: Blocks total: 49473 Blocks current: 49473 Blocks remaining: -62709 do your 800Mb CD-Rs look like this?12:24
hai(i do know how to sudo in order to have root access to the file in question.)12:24
CicakmanVersion Cluster   Port Status Owner    Data directory                     Log file12:25
Cicakman8.0     main      5432 online postgres /var/lib/postgresql/8.0/main       /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-8.0-main.log12:25
lemics_change umask ?12:25
Cicakmanhmmm cluster is already running12:25
Cicakmanbut when i run 'createuser', this error message was returned: createuser: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  user "agwibowo" does not exist12:25
gibsonhai: take a look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28monitor%29%7C%28resolution%2912:26
intelikeyasraniel what fs ?   are we talking linux native /ext3 ..... or vfat or what ?12:26
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dockanedoes anyone know a similiar pendant to cumulus in ubuntu ?12:27
haithanks.  i'm going to do that now.12:27
bimberiCicakman: iirc you need to add a new user as the postgres user - "sudo su - posgtgres", then try the createuser command12:27
samu2So, there's only two more days til' Breezy?12:27
pittiCicakman: I'm the postgresql maintainer. What do you want to do?12:27
intelikeyasraniel ?12:27
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pittiCicakman: you don't need to create the postgres user, that happens automatically12:28
daxxarC-Keen, you mean chmod 777 -R /, I bet? :)12:28
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pittibimberi: the user wasn't created for you? postgresql-common does that12:28
TrewasC-Keen: yeah cdrecord -atip is reporting 49473 blocks for total length of the 800MB cd, while a random 700MB cd-rw reports 359849 blocks12:28
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daxxarEh.12:28
Cicakmanpitti: i can see the postgres user12:28
daxxarnot C-Keen, sorry. :12:28
pittibimberi: ah, sorry, I misread12:28
pittiCicakman: ok, what do you want to do?12:29
daxxarasraniel, you mean chmod 777 -R /path/to/stuff, I bet? :)12:29
Cicakmanpitti: but when i run "createdb" from my normal user account, it says "  could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  user "agwibowo" does not exist"12:29
daxxarasraniel, also, you could just do chmod go+rwX -R /path/to/stuff12:29
bimberipitti: s'ok (he wants to create a "agwibowo" user) :)12:29
Cicakmanpitti: i'm not sure what i need to do here12:29
pittiCicakman: ah12:29
pittiCicakman: look at /usr/share/doc/postgresql-common/README.Debian12:29
daxxarHmm, +777 should work. :)12:29
pittiCicakman: it explains the first steps12:29
pittiCicakman:  as bimberi said, you need to create a psql user for you12:29
Cicakmanok..... thx12:30
pittiCicakman: sudo -u postgres createuser yourname12:30
pittiCicakman: or, better: sudo -u postgres createuser yourname -D -a12:30
Cicakmanyourname <- is this my normal account, or separate account for postgres?12:30
daxxarasraniel, if it's fat, you should put this into the options of the mount: umask=000, but you're better off doing uid=someUser,gid=someGroup,umask=007, then just make sure everyone that needs rwx is in someGroup. (:12:30
pittiCicakman: you should use your login name12:30
Cicakmanok.. that's done....12:31
pittiCicakman: if you don't spefify -D -a, createuser will just ask you about the privileges of your user12:31
intelikeydaxxar it looks like we lost asraniel but if it is vfat or ntfs or something chmod wont help... it will have to have a umask= line in fstab12:31
Cicakmanic....12:31
daxxarintelikey, aye.12:31
daxxarintelikey, (and better not 777, but something like 770, i.e. umask 007, and setting gid= and uid= in the mount)12:32
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Cicakmani think i've got it12:32
Cicakmanthx a lot guys12:32
JDigitalnp12:32
Skidpop a cheque in the post12:32
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daxxarintelikey, enjoy.12:33
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Cicakmanerrr... how do i quit from this psql12:34
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bimberiCicakman: \q12:34
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pittiCicakman: \q or just press Ctrl+D12:34
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asranielintelikey, daxxar: i was eating. yes its fat, i will try yout tips12:34
Cicakmanthx... i'm a noob... :P12:34
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pittiCicakman: do you think the instructions in README.Devel can be improved?12:34
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Cicakmanmsyql user who is learning postgresql12:34
daxxarasraniel, you should generally not set 777, rather set 770, and make people member of a group. :)12:35
pittiCicakman: ah :-)12:35
pittiCicakman: it might take a while to adopt to psql's user handling12:35
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vladuz976once breezy becomes stable, will there be anymore packages added to the repos? it not, then can one just comment out all repositories except the backports until the next distro-upgrade?12:35
Cicakmanpitti: nah... should be ok... although what u said before  " sudo -u postgres createuser agwibowo -D -a12:35
Cicakman"  is different from what is there,, but i'm sure they are the same...12:35
Cicakmanone thing though.... i dont know if this file exists... i can't find it in the wiki page either12:36
Cicakmanmaybe setting up a wiki page that points out this file will really help12:36
pittiCicakman: yes, it's a bit more detailled12:36
bimberipitti: as a sql*plus user, psql is ... interesting :)12:36
pittiCicakman: it's a standard documentation place for all Debian packages12:36
Cicakmanohhh ..... again.. the noob side of me...12:36
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pittiCicakman: don't worry - if you learned something today, that's great :-)12:37
gibsonvladuz976: if you install breezy now, then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, youll be right on par with the final release12:37
Cicakmanthx a lot12:37
cafuego_Whoa!12:37
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ccookevladuz976: there will be new packages in the repositories after release - to cover bug fixes and security updates.12:37
gnomefreakvladuz976: i would think that would depend on what packages you wanted and personally i wouldnt comment out any repos12:37
cafuego_Pretty nice kernel lock on the secondary production box.12:37
vladuz976gibson: and backports? disable them and enable once breezy is out?12:37
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Cicakmanis there any tool that allows me to graphically model the database in ubuntu?12:38
ccookeCicakman: what database?12:38
gibsonapt-get upgrade will only install the latest packeges12:38
Cicakmanummm.. postgresql?12:38
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ccookeCicakman: there are (mostly web-based) graphical front-ends to mysql and postgres12:39
ccookeis that roughly what you want, or are you talking about software that will produce nice relationship diagrams?12:40
pittiCicakman: pgadmin3 is a nice administration tool (standalone application, not web-based)12:40
Cicakmanccooke: hmm i'm talking about a software that allows me to draw tables, build relationship between them... and also a functionality to generate the sql scripts....12:40
pittiCicakman: you can create tables with it and the like12:40
Cicakmanpitti: thx...12:40
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eythianCicakman: I've not used it, but maybe Rekall does it.12:41
pittiCicakman: you can't build queries with it, thouhg12:41
gibsonCicakman: i think webmin has a mysql module12:41
poningruWOAH12:41
ccookeCicakman: you want a drag and drop database builder?12:41
poningruwho is benjamin mako?12:41
poningruhere12:41
gibsonand maybe postgres, im not sure12:41
haffeHi, I installed ubuntu server package, but now I want to install xorg. What package should I install? xserver-xorg-core?12:41
Seveazponingru, Benjamin 'mako' Hill12:41
eythianCicakman: or the OO.o2 database thingie, if it's far enough along.12:41
Seveazguess the nickname :)12:41
poningruoh12:41
poningruSeveaz: is he the guy behind unhappybirthday?12:42
Seveazyes12:42
Cicakmanccooke: not sure what you meant, but something like Dezign (http://www.datanamic.com/dezign/)12:42
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ccookeCicakman: hmm. apt-cache show tora - is that what you need?12:43
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jonasbjorkhello people12:43
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bimberiCicakman: i've used a graphical design tool called DBDesigner4.  It's not integrated with postgresql though (ie. no scheme generation or reverse engineering)12:43
gibsonhi jonasbjork12:43
Cicakmanbimberi: i tried that.. but can't run it in ubuntu12:43
ccookeCicakman: ... right. I've not heard of any open-source tool that does that12:43
jonasbjorki am looking for a good guide that helps me building packages for ubuntu linux12:43
Cicakmanbimberi: funny it says "Starting DBDesigner4" but nothing pops up12:44
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Cody`WTF12:45
Cody`stuck in 800x600 mode12:45
Cody`iwth screen scroll when mouse gets to edge12:45
JDigitalheh12:45
bimberiCicakman: hm, it works ok for me (on hoary)12:46
gibsonjonasbjork: this site show how to make debian pkgs, they are basically the same thing, http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html12:46
jonasbjorkgibson: thanks :] 12:46
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haihello again.12:47
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haii was hear earlier concerning a resolution question.12:47
haiit's answered.  thanks for the help!12:48
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gibsonhai: awesome, did that site help?12:48
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N6REJ-AFKSeveaz: I'm having problems.... can you please tell me whats wrong with this?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/298912:50
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Cicakmanhmmm12:51
N6REJany postfix experts?12:52
Cicakmantora says that the connection to postgre is refused12:52
Cicakmanalthough supplying the same username/password to psql works fine12:52
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gibsonN6REJ-AFK: no, but maybe it might be easier if you edit each field in the .conf file12:53
johnsie2how do you change which program is associated with a file type?12:53
N6REJgibson: ok.. ty.12:53
johnsie2in gnome12:53
gibsonN6REJ: just back it up first12:54
tarzeaujohnsie2: /etc/mailcap or ~/.mailcap ? not sure12:54
N6REJgibson: yep, did that already :D12:54
frickelI can't install ardour-gtk, it depends on packages that can't be installed... can someone help me?12:54
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poningrucafuego_: can we have ubotu do cowsay?12:55
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daxxarAnd ubotu do banner and ubotu do figlet! :o12:56
Ngfrickel: it looks pretty broken at the moment unfortunately12:56
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johnsie2eww that's a dirty text file.... I think I'm gonna have to write a GUI for it12:57
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jonasbjorkponingru: cowsay is in universe.12:57
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poningrujonasbjork: I know12:58
poningruI was just wondering if the bot in here can do that in channel12:58
poningrunot in here obviously12:58
poningruonly in ubuntu-offtopic12:58
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erickgtg guys time to go home thanks01:00
jonasbjorkponingru: aha, i see. .  :/01:00
dougskocya erick01:01
sH4Hi01:01
dougskohey sH401:01
sH4dougsko ,yep~01:01
jas_Hi01:01
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sH4jas_ : HI ,01:01
jas_I just started using ubuntu a few days ago01:02
jas_Its interesting01:02
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dougskoyeah, its nice compared to the "pure" distros where everything is a fight to get stuff working01:02
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jonasbjorkanyone know if ubuntu works flawless on a powerbook G4 ?01:03
dougskoat least for me anyway01:03
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jonasbjorkairport extreme does not work - as i know01:03
jonasbjorkbut otherwise?01:03
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jas_I'm running it on a compaq presario 900z01:04
dougskojonasbjork: id venture to guess ubuntu takes a little tweaking on every system to get it just right01:04
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jas_So far no problems01:04
donalerandrosalut!01:04
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Paradoxxhas backports been removed or smthing?01:05
dougskodonalerandro: hi01:05
jonasbjorkjas_: a powerbook (mac/ppc) and a compaq (pc/x86) is different things ;)01:05
JDigitalWho needs backports when we have Breezy in two days01:05
pilgrim_executerhey all, my buddy is trying to partition his HDD but cant unmount it to resize, it just keeps saying its busy - how does he un mount it?01:05
jas_i am very aware of that I was just saying hey this is what I am running01:05
donalerandrohi dougsko01:05
sH4'  '01:06
frickelNg: thats not good01:06
donalerandroplease help me !01:06
jonasbjorkpilgrim_executer: sudo fuser -k /dev/DEVICE01:06
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donalerandrohello all chaters please helpe me!01:06
dougskodonalerandro: whats wrong??01:07
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frickelDoes anyone know where "Beneath a Steel Sky" Gama Data is stored and what name it gets?? I want to run it in scummvm... downloaded it with synaptic....can't find it01:07
pilgrim_executerjonasbjork, thank you very much01:07
jonasbjorkpilgrim_executer: np :)01:07
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donalerandroI want to create a apllication kind a dictionnary01:07
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punkiehow do you reconfigure your xserver??01:07
donalerandrobut I don't know how to do it?01:08
Paradoxxhmm, question...01:08
dougskopunkie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28monitor%29%7C%28resolution%2901:08
Paradoxxif i do a dist upgrade now? will breezy break?01:08
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jonasbjorkpunkie: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-org01:09
jonasbjorkor something like that01:09
dougskoParadoxx: it shouldnt, but computer are sweet like that01:09
jonasbjorkpunkie: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg01:09
jonasbjorkParadoxx: from hoary?01:09
jonasbjorkParadoxx: i did upgrade hoary to breezy, and it worked. my friend did the same but his broked.01:10
jonasbjorkParadoxx: he missed some xorg-packages. installed them and everything went fine.01:10
alkuoviGood day all, I have installed linux-image-2.6.10.5-686 version 2.6.10-34. I have used apt-get upgrade and my 386 kernel is version 2.6.10-34.7. Why isn't 686 updated to that version?01:11
jonasbjorkParadoxx: a great idea is to backup your data (documents, pics and such) before upgrading01:11
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Tiranhello! when will be 5.10 out?01:14
bimberiTiran: 13th01:14
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pilgrim_executerjonasbjork, still says device busy:( im trying it on my pc with no luck too01:15
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steve_donq01:16
steve_donquit01:16
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JDigitalheh01:17
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alkuoviUps, I looked the version number from wrong location. 686 is up to date.01:18
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pilgrim_executercan anyone help me unmount my HDD for patitioning? always says its busy01:20
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C-Keenpilgrim_executer: you need to boot off something else than your hard disk to do it properly01:20
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pilgrim_executerC-Keen, lice-cd?01:21
pilgrim_executerlive cd even hehe01:21
C-Keenpilgrim_executer: a good start yes01:21
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pilgrim_executerC-Keen, thx im on it :)01:22
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Adrossi wish to make a website from scratch. This would be a bunch of tutorials for open source apps for windows. Anyone recommend a good program?01:22
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nomedhi all01:22
SkidAdross: nvu01:22
C-Keenpilgrim_executer: no problem :)01:23
N6REJwhat is the importance of the pass phrase when setting up smtp-auth in postfix?01:23
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AdrossSkid: i tried installing that, but it won't work01:23
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N6REJis it something I'm going to be typing daily, or ????01:23
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nomedi have this string in debconf: xserver-xorg/autodetect_keyboard: true01:24
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nomedbut it seems during dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive xserver-xorg it can't set the keyboard01:24
nomedit was working with hoary ...01:24
nomeddo i need some pkge in particular01:25
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nomed?01:25
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Adrossso, anyone know any good website authoring utils?01:28
abhaykshi has anyone played music from www.raaga.com01:29
Siropeli will ...now01:30
C-KeenAdross: maybe WebGUI is what you are looking for01:31
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SeveasAdross, nvu?01:31
Adrosshow does one install webgui?01:31
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abhayksSiropel, I always get initializing player -- but never get player initialized01:31
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AdrossSeveas: tried installing, but it won't run01:32
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ian_Anybody running ubuntu on a DE01:33
ian_on a DELL01:33
hablandocontigoRunning back and forth from this computer to the one I was messing with yesterday is a bit like George Washington's guerilla tactics during the War of American Independence.01:33
hablandocontigoI am.01:33
ian_specifically an Inspiron 220001:33
hablandocontigoDell GX 200 Inspiron01:33
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hablandocontigoerr Optiplex01:33
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KimppaHello. I'm having huge problems with starting up my X after booting it01:34
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Kimppawhen I run the command /etc/init.d/gdm restart, I get the following error01:35
N6REJI need some help understanding what the passphrase does in postfix guys.01:35
dougskoAndross: wordpress is nice for blog type pages01:35
Sonderbladehow do i download addons so i can play .avi-files in totem?01:35
ian_sorry should have been more specific, it's a laptop - DELL Inspiron 2200, can get hold of one for a pretty good price and Im interested to here if anybody is running ubuntu on this platform...01:35
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Kimppa"I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"01:36
KimppaIf I choose yes, I only get a blank screen01:36
abhayksSonderblade, gstreamer*01:36
Kimppawith on "ok" button01:36
Siropelabhayks: doesn't work for me either, i am using fedora right now01:36
mohkohnAfter defecting to gentoo for 4 days it is good to be back!01:36
Kimppathen I get a message telling me X server is disabled for now, and I should check my configuration01:37
SonderbladeKimppa: did you upgrade the kernel?01:37
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Admiral_Snyderhi there01:37
dodgyvilleHow do I install dcom98 using wine?01:37
Admiral_Snyder(once again)01:37
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dodgyvillehi01:38
KimppaSonderblade: Hmm... now that you mention it, it's possible. I was trying to install my drivers for my ati card, and I needed to install kernel headers01:38
Sonderbladeabhayks: do you mean gstreamer0.8-plugins?01:38
abhayksyes01:38
Sonderbladethanks01:38
Admiral_Snydercan anybody of you tell me why i can access my ubuntu-computer with putty on any of it's NIC IPs even when the network cable is only assigned to one of them?01:38
KimppaSonderblade: but the kernel version seems to be the same as the version I hade before trying to install the drivers01:38
mustard5dodgyville, winetools01:38
SonderbladeKimppa: i think the ati driver has to be recompiled01:38
KimppaSonderblade: Hmm.. ok, how do I do that?01:39
abhayksSonderblade, Siropel has found it hard to make avi file run in totem, -look at his msg01:39
DMFDSandmancan someone help me figure out how to get my wifi card working?01:40
DMFDSandmanwireles01:40
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ian_DMFDSandman: I'll try...01:40
Sonderbladeabhayks: i get the sound from the files but no video01:40
dodgyvillemustard5: Thanks01:41
ian_what wifi card are you using?01:41
mustard5!tell DMFDSandman about wireless wifi01:41
abhayksSonderblade, I do not have any avi files right now -- can u send me a small one01:41
bimberiian_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops, failing that http://www.linux-laptop.net/01:41
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mustard5!tell DMFDSandman about wifi01:42
DMFDSandmanwell i have a broadcom built into my laptop and i have a belkin pre-n01:42
ian_Cheers bimberi01:42
mustard5dodgyville, np01:42
Kimppacan anyone tell me how to recomiple the ati drivers?01:42
DMFDSandmanthanks for the link mustard01:43
mustard5DMFDSandman, np01:43
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lemics_can someone help me on the therm_adt746x module ? i want to set from the start cpu_fan to 0 is this ok ?01:46
lemics_on a ibook01:46
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fortran01getting errors in gmail?01:51
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joacim_is it possible to show the layout for a keyboard/language combination, in more extent than what the keyboard-layout tool in gnome shows?01:56
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nocturnHi guys.01:56
kagen_I find it funny that on this old 300mhz, here on linux, I can play video clips just fine, even clips that ran like total utter shit on windows. haha01:57
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LickerI am trying to remove Apache2 from my PC. I ran the uninstall on the synamptic but it can still host a web site. (www.firestreak.com ) any idea why it didnt get totaly removed and or another way to remove it and the DIRs it came in?01:57
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dragoonzwhat are the minimum specs I can run ubuntu on?01:57
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kagen_dunno01:57
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kagen_i'm running it on a 300mhz with 390 megs of ram01:57
mahangudragoonz, pretty low end machines01:57
mahanguive seen it run fine on p3s with 12801:58
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dragoonza p1 166mHz?01:58
nocturndragoonz: that dpends on what you will be using.  Gnome will not run well on a PII with 128 MB Ram01:58
mustard5about 3Gb hard drive01:58
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dragoonzah01:58
dragoonzI intend to use gnome01:58
kagen_Gnome was not good for this system at all01:58
dragoonzbecause I'm a noob01:58
kagen_XFCE came in handy01:58
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mustard5it will run ok01:58
mustard5maybe slow :)01:58
nocturnXfce is nice, but it does not do automounting etc01:58
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limguohong91Hey guys, how do i edit this file /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes? It appear to be locked how do i unlock it?01:59
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nocturndragoonz: For Gnome, Ram is important01:59
keithhello everyone01:59
mustard5keith, hi01:59
kagen_gnome is cool, when I get a new computer, i'll use it01:59
limguohong91Hi :)01:59
nocturnHi Keith01:59
enigmaticI run gnome 2.12 with 256mb of sdram and it goes along fine01:59
keithhi01:59
michelltsp: cliient starts but i have login, but i  cannot log me any ide?01:59
kagen_I think my 390 megs of ram was good enough, but the 300mhz cpu probably lagged me back02:00
limguohong91 Hey guys, how do i edit this file /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes? It appear to be locked how do i unlock it? I am the admin of this computer02:00
keithi wonder, is there sth work with rar formate?02:00
enigmaticyeah, unrar02:00
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_jasonlimguohong91:  are you using sudo?02:00
keiththx02:00
mustard5why would you want to edit it, limguohong91 ?02:00
limguohong91sudo?02:00
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fortran01limguohong91: try check permissions ls -l02:01
nocturnBTW, I have some Breezy problems02:01
aftertaf!tell limguohong91 about sudo02:01
_jason!tell limguohong91 about sudo02:01
_jasonoops02:01
limguohong91I want to add it more brushes to The Gimp02:01
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enigmaticlol02:01
mustard5k02:01
_jasonoh ubotu is smart...02:01
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aftertafhehe, not oops :)02:01
keithem/02:01
mustard5ah its a directory!  *light goes on*02:01
nocturnMy laptop battery only does 30 minutes against 90-120 in Hoary02:01
aftertaf!good bot02:01
ubotu:)02:01
enigmaticlimguohong91, you must be su to write to that dir, get more brushes and add them as su02:01
keithand sth like sterm?02:01
nocturnand Ndiswrapper (Broadcom) is dead in the water02:01
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limguohong91su?02:01
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enigmaticsuperuser02:01
limguohong91I see02:01
limguohong91Thanks :)02:01
keithhow can i find applications by functions, not just name, hehe,02:02
aftertafw00t02:02
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enigmaticdo sudo mv files to /path/to/gimp/plugins/brushes02:02
aftertafkeith, adept can do that, it uses debtags02:02
limguohong91okay :)02:02
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mustard5keith, search by name and description02:02
keiththank you all02:03
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nocturnAny Breezy+Ndiswrapper+Broadcom users here?02:03
b0unceris gdm fixed already?02:03
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mustard5nocturn, no02:04
mustard5maybe later02:04
lrcanyone knows the solution for the 65-bit openoffice printer setup thing?02:04
b0uncerlrc, yes, buy another printer02:05
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lrcb0uncer, it doesn't solve the problem02:05
lrcb0uncer, the problem is on the OOwriter itself02:05
keithhaha,02:05
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b0uncerok..but that _would_ solve the problem02:06
b0uncerimo02:06
lrcb0uncer, you know the problem with openoffice.org ang 65-bit system?02:06
JDigitalheh02:06
b0uncerthe goal is to get something printed, isn't it?02:06
lrcb0uncer, im using 5 different network printers02:07
b0uncerlrc, not really, but describe it?02:07
keithsorry, but i cant find adept in my source,02:07
lrcb0uncer, on my 64-bit system using hoary 5.10 printers are detected by print manager and can print test page but on openoffice.org i can't see the printers i addedd only generic printer02:07
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limguohong91There seem that there is no root account?02:08
intelikey65-bit ?02:08
limguohong91So how do i do sudo?02:08
kagen_i'll mess with printer someday on here, for now, my windowsxp workstation exists.02:08
nihaoI got this with "top" command: Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    97700k cached02:08
b0uncerlimguohong91 you must enable it02:08
oxezseems *.ubuntu.com are down?02:08
b0uncerwith passwd and sudo02:08
mustard5sudo uses the user password02:08
nihaodoes this mean that I have no swap partition?02:08
lrcintelikey, 64 bit i mean02:08
limguohong91I see02:08
limguohong91Thanks :)02:08
b0uncerlimguohong91 sudo passwd root02:09
b0unceror something like it02:09
b0uncer:)02:09
limguohong91Okay :)02:09
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KimppaDoes anyone have any idea how I can uninstall the ati drivers and use the default drivers instead?02:10
b0uncerdo your GDMs in Gnome 2.12 (breezy rc) work all right?02:10
b0uncerwhen you log out of Gnome then try to log back in?02:10
intelikeylimguohong91 there is a root account.  but you probably don't have a passwd set for root.   sudo uses $UID's password (assumes they are in sudoers) to run commands as root for $UID.02:10
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chapeaurougehow's the hoary to breezy dist-upgrade?02:10
limguohong91So when i enable it it run as who?02:10
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limguohong91Run as my name or run as root?02:10
intelikeyas root.02:11
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keithur named account02:11
SpiderManthanks foXgamer, grub is working 100%02:11
limguohong91XD.... 2 answers.....02:11
nihaohello, how to know if I have swap partition or not?02:11
mustard5nihao, type 'mount' in terminal02:11
b0uncer:D02:11
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intelikeynihao "free" will tell you if a swap partition is enabled.    "fdisk -l" will tell you if one exists.02:12
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keithmustard, can u tell me some app, like sterm ?02:12
mustard5ah 'free' sorry02:12
mustard5keith, what are you looking for?02:12
lemics_mustard you mean df ?02:13
sleptnihao, cat /proc/swaps02:13
keithsome application like sterm in win02:13
mustard5lemics_, yep02:13
sleptwhat is sterm ?02:13
b0uncerSpermTerm02:13
b0uncersurely02:13
lemics_lol02:13
mustard5what does sterm do?02:13
keithsuperterm?  thanks02:13
intelikeyi feel kinda see-throughish .....02:13
keithen, telnet02:13
keithlogin02:14
b0uncermustard5, what would you think? ;)02:14
mustard5:)  I'm being slow :D02:14
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keithhehe n_n02:14
b0uncerduhh..gotta go back to work. Just installed linux on a 300gig raid thingie, screwed up, started again...takes sooooo long02:14
sleptkeith, don't use telnet its insecure02:15
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intelikeyssh02:15
keithok, i just use it to log in bbs of my uni02:15
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alex3305hi02:17
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intelikeybe [right,write,rite]  back.......02:18
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nihaomustafu: there is no swap identified in the output, does this mean there is no swap enabled?02:20
nihaoinc|freaky: Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    99924k cached --> so, no swap?02:20
intelikeynihao i said eariler "fdisk -l"  to see if any swap partition exists.02:21
nihaoslept: cat /proc/swaps give me no output --> does this mean there is no swap (or not enabled)?02:21
sleptnihao, do you have a swap partition ? if so do swapon /dev/hd..02:21
sleptyes02:21
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Admiral_Snyderis one of you a crack concerning the interfaces file?02:23
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intelikeyi'm a bit of a crack-pot does that count ?02:23
Admiral_Snyderhehe02:24
sleptAdmiral_Snyder, I'm not , but what is your problem ?02:24
Admiral_Snyderi have a computer running ubuntu, that i want to use as a router for my network02:24
Admiral_Snyderthis machine has 3 NICs02:25
Admiral_Snyderthe one onboard i want to use to connect to the internet.02:25
lemics_you need to load some routing modules02:25
chapeaurougeAdmiral_Snyder, have you tried ipcop? (just a thought)02:25
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nihaoinc|freaky: I typed the command, it told me that "Cannot open /dev/hda8"02:25
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liableAdmiral_Snyder: ipmasq, or shorewall, or fireholl, or firestarter, or ...02:25
Admiral_Snyderwhat is ipcop?02:25
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lemics_i think tldp.org has something about it02:26
chapeaurougeAdmiral_Snyder, a ready to go linux router/firewall with nice web interface02:26
Admiral_Snyderim not that far as to the firewall.02:26
nihaothis is the line in /etc/fstab "/dev/hda8       none            swap    sw                               0       0"02:26
chapeaurougeipcop.sourceforge.net02:26
Admiral_Snyderfirst i need to configure the ip's of my NIC's02:26
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Admiral_Snyderdoes ipcop run on a bash? i only have one02:26
chapeaurougeAdmiral_Snyder, there is nothing to do with ipcop.. basically plugit in and go.. very good for this purpose02:26
nihaoinc|freaky: this is line in /etc/fstab --> "/dev/hda8       none            swap    sw                       0       0"02:26
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chapeaurougeAdmiral_Snyder, runs on LFS02:26
sleptnihao, do fdisk -l02:27
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Admiral_Snydersorry, overread your former statement02:27
Admiral_Snyderit has to be that ubuntu02:27
chapeaurougeah ok.02:27
sleptnihao, if the line would be right you have swap02:27
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Admiral_Snyderso. my nic's02:27
Admiral_Snyderthe outgoing is 192.168.1.102:28
Admiral_Snyderthe others are 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.302:28
lemics_this ones nice but on BSD http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200207/transpfobsd.html02:28
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Admiral_Snyderwill that work?02:28
BockBilboanyone here uses mythv and has been able to make it work properly?02:28
nihaoslept: 'fdisk -l' prints nothing. what does this mean?02:28
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sleptnihao, to make a partition swap do mkswap /dev/hd802:28
sleptnihao, sudo02:29
sleptuse02:29
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sleptnihao, for fdisk02:29
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Kyozabe`Hey, uh, could someone tell me the default password for Ubuntu Live, please?02:30
Admiral_Snyder(i generated a firewall script for rcfirewall, and it works fine until now, but i have to configure the ip's first)02:30
Kyozabe`I kinda need to use my laptop, but it's prompting me to login to get back to the desktop02:31
poningruKyozabe`: there is no password02:31
sleptKyozabe`, just press ENTER02:31
Kyozabe`yeah02:31
Kyozabe`"Login cancelled"02:31
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poningruKyozabe`: um just press the power button02:31
poningruit should just shutdown02:31
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intelikeynihao `if' /dev/hda8 exists in the output of "fdisk -l /dev/hda" then "sudo mkswap /dev/hda8 ;swapon -a "    if you want swap.....  i don't use swap here.... it slows this thing down.....02:32
poningrubut this seems like a bug02:32
Kyozabe`But I don't want it to...02:32
poningruKyozabe`: oh02:32
poningruhmm02:32
Kyozabe`Setting up stuff for it is ass :/02:32
Admiral_Snydernobody who can help?02:32
poningruwell this is a live cd02:32
C-KeenKyozabe`: what are you trying to do?02:32
Kyozabe`Well, I closed my laptop last night02:32
C-KeenKyozabe`: yes?02:32
Kyozabe`Opened it today, and when I try to get out of the screen saver, it prompts me to input a password02:33
da_bon_bonhi all02:33
nihaoslept: yes, i see it in fdisk -l /dev/hda now. "/dev/hda8            8455        8511      457821   82  Linux swap / Solaris"02:33
da_bon_bondoes ubuntus hibernate unmount all disk drives before hibernating ?02:33
C-KeenKyozabe`: can you get to a console by pressing ctrl+alt+f1 ?02:33
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Kyozabe`Yyyyep02:33
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C-Keenfine. can you login there?02:33
nihaoslept: this is the output of "top" --> "Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    97780k cached02:33
nihao"02:33
Kyozabe`No idea how, really :x02:34
poningruKyozabe`: what are you trying to do?02:34
nihaoslept: anything wrong? does this mean that swap partition is not used?02:34
sleptnihao, do swapon /dev/hda8  to test if it works if not do what intelikey said. forget about top02:34
C-KeenKyozabe`: well do you see a login prompt?02:34
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Kyozabe`No, I see a terminal02:34
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C-KeenKyozabe`: so you see a shell prompt?02:34
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poningruKyozabe`: because if this is a live cd then you are not supposed to be doing much02:34
Kyozabe`yeah02:34
kagen_yeah I do02:34
Kyozabe`I'm not!02:34
kagen_took me a moment to find out how to get back to my gui =\02:35
Kyozabe`all I did was close the damn laptop and it's asking me for a password I never set02:35
C-KeenKyozabe`: fine. type whoami to see who you are02:35
Kyozabe`ubuntu02:35
C-KeenKyozabe`: try to set a password with passwd02:35
nihaoslept, intelikey : yes, I see the swap now. thanks!02:36
Kyozabe`that's the problem02:36
intelikeyKyozabe` your user account has no passwd ???02:36
Kyozabe`I don't have a passwd for "Current"02:36
Kyozabe`or I don't know it, or something02:36
sleptKyozabe`, you want to get into your system via live cd ?02:36
nihaointelikey, slept : I am asking for this, because my computer always get frozen with only 2-3 applications open.02:36
bimberiKyozabe`: <ctrl><alt>F2 then "sudo passwd ubuntu" then <ctrl><alt>F7 and use that password02:36
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sivangHOwdy folks02:37
C-KeenKyozabe`: do what bimberi says02:37
sivangdoes anybody know how to make a NIC that won't show up work ?02:37
sivangthat is, hal-device-manager sees it,02:37
nihaointelikey, slept : I have 256mb memory, maybe that's too little. so I think if swap would help.02:37
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BiSK-8hello02:37
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BiSK-8how can i change from xfce to gnome?02:37
Kyozabe`thanks :p02:37
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sivangbut when I try ifup eth1, it says "device do not exist"02:37
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sleptnihao, 256 should be enough and swap is always a goos idea02:37
mahanguBiSK-8, download gnome02:37
mahanguand switch sessions02:37
poningrusivang: eth002:38
kagen_BiSK-8, if you already have gnome, logout and change sessions02:38
poningrudo you have more than one nic?02:38
sivangponingru: yeah02:38
sivangponingru: exactly02:38
poningruoh nm02:38
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intelikeynihao maybe...  but this box only has 98m ram and no swap.   you should boot memtest next time and test your memory sticks02:38
BiSK-8mahangu, how?, when i log it goes directly 2 my desktop02:38
BiSK-8no login page02:38
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poningrusivang: you sure its working correctly/02:38
poningru?02:38
poningruerr bad question nm02:38
nihaoslept, intelikey : ok, I will test the memory. but my windows in the same box seems don't have problem.02:39
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sivangponingru: yeah, I know it works , in works in XP02:39
Admiral_Snyderis there a known howto about interfaces (nic's)02:40
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nihaointelikey: amazaing that you run it with 98MB :-) this is annoying me so much that I thought it was a fault in kernel...02:40
pinucsetwill today breezy be released?02:40
sleptAdmiral_Snyder, man interfaces02:40
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zygapitti_live: re02:40
intelikeynihao also you have a non-standard configuration there.    because fdisk -l should never return without listing all parts/hd's02:41
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pitti_livezyga: performance is poor that way (1GB RAM), but i'll try that on an installed system02:41
pitti_livezyga: mouse works on the desktop, but not on the menu bar for some reason02:41
pitti_livezyga: but anyway, I'm impressed :-)02:42
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intelikeynihao i run linux on a laptop with 24m ram and 48m swap02:42
nihaointelikey: sorry, I found previously I didn't use sudo02:42
zygapitti_live: not on the menu bar? strange, did you try that in fullscreen mode?02:42
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yapycckyhello guys02:42
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pitti_livezyga: I just noticed that it works, it just had a 2 minute latency :-)02:42
yapycckyi've a "problem" with my laptop and ubuntu...my sistem is "too slow"02:43
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zygapitti_live: !!!02:43
zyga:D02:43
sivangpitti_live: hey :) can I ask you somethign related to configuring a second ethernet card ?02:43
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lemics_install minix :D02:43
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intelikeykernel 2.4 there ^02:43
zygapitti_live: I guess for 2GB of ram it could be much faster, qemu is based on botchs, isn't it?02:43
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poningrusivang: hmm02:43
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nihaointelikey: incredible :-) but I don't know how I can fix the problem to my ubuntu package...02:44
luttydoes anybody know if KGET was included in the kdenetwork packages in kubuntu?02:44
poningrusivang: I dont know what to tell ya dude02:44
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pitti_livezyga: I guess so; however, the underlying live image already needs lots of RAM02:44
pitti_livesivang: sure02:44
nihaointelikey: I use gnome. maybe this is too heavy02:44
sleptlutty, use apt-cache show to find out where packages come from02:44
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nihaointelikey: here is warings from fdisk "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9729.02:45
nihaoThere is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,02:45
nihaoand could in certain setups cause problems with:02:45
nihao1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)02:45
nihao2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs"02:45
nihaointelikey: does this matter?02:45
intelikeyno it doesn't nihao02:45
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intelikeythat is only telling you that the bios may have trubble booting it.02:46
luttyslept: says "E no packages found"02:46
sivangpitti_live: I think it may be related to some bug we had with hotplug/udev, I've added a second etherent card to a R40e laptop of a freind, and hal sees it, but when trying ifup/down or ifconfig the device won't show there02:46
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intelikeyif it boots. nihao then the warning is "nothing".02:46
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sleptlutty, you have to enter the name use apt-cache search to find out the name02:46
nihaointelikey: ok, nice to know.02:47
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sleptlutty, I think that could be done in synaptic aswell , but I'm not familliar with02:47
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sleptsivang, you have to add a interface in the interfaces file02:48
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neoyyfddd02:48
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luttyslept: nothing shows for kget....although it shows the kdenetwork package is installed...i just cant find the kget binary anywhere02:48
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neoyyfhello every one02:49
sivangslept: did that as well :)02:49
neoyyfgood evening02:49
sivangslept: seems it cannot configure the device itself, not the specification of it in the interfaces file02:49
sleptsivang, you added an entry for eth1 ?02:49
sleptsivang, you can paste that file in #flood02:50
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da_bon_bondoes ubuntus hibernate unmount all disk drives before hibernating ?02:50
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intelikeyone can only hope so....02:50
sivangslept: sure02:50
intelikey8-{02:50
neoyyfI like linux02:50
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sleptwho doesn't02:51
poningruda_bon_bon: yes I am pretty sure02:51
intelikeyneoyyf me too02:51
neoyyfanybody talk with me?02:51
GlueGadgetI want to resize my root partition to free up some of it's space for installing another distro, could any one help?02:51
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neoyyfhello02:51
pittisivang: what was your question?02:51
sleptGlueGadget, what fs do you use ?02:51
da_bon_bonponingru: how can i check ?02:51
GlueGadgetext202:51
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poningruda_bon_bon: the docs I guess02:52
poningrusearch for it02:52
da_bon_bonhmm..02:52
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da_bon_bonwhere is the "hibernate" script located ?02:52
sleptneoyyf, we all like linux02:52
neoyyfI am a programmer,I want to study linux02:52
intelikeyfind / -name hibernate02:52
bimberida_bon_bon: /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh02:52
poningruda_bon_bon: the reason I say this is because there is a dev list email thread02:53
BiSK-8neoyyf: so? whats the prob?02:53
poningruthat is crying about this02:53
nihaointelikey, slept : but how to automatically enable swap during booting?02:53
poningruerr complaining02:53
intelikeyda_bon_bon man hibernate.02:53
sleptneoyyf, unless you want to do kernel development you are interested in gnu02:53
neoyyfThis is my first time to use x-chat02:53
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da_bon_bonintelikey: ok.02:53
da_bon_bonponingru: link ?02:53
intelikeynihao it will now.02:53
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GlueGadgetslept, could you help me?02:53
sleptnihao, with the fstab entry you allready have, should work now , try with reboot02:54
poningruda_bon_bon: um its in my imap server02:54
sivangpitti: ok, I'm trying to add a second etherent card to a freind's r40e latop, now when I plug the PCIMCA card, hal can see it02:54
da_bon_bonohok, poningru02:54
poningruda_bon_bon: dont know if they have the archives02:54
gavinhi, i am looking for help with apt02:54
sivangpitti: however, when ifup/down and ifconfig -a , I can't see it - I added the right enteried to eth102:54
poningrugavin: whats wrong dude02:54
sivangpitti: s/eth1/interfaces/02:54
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intelikeynihao unless you have monkey'd with the scripts in /etc/init.d/ (like i always do) then it will automaticly enable it at boot time.02:54
da_bon_bonnever mind, poningru02:54
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poningruda_bon_bon: found the archive?02:55
sivangpitti: do you know if you need to do anything other then that to make it work? (it works in XP)02:55
pittisivang: can you put your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere?02:55
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da_bon_bonponingru: no.. i take your word for it :)02:55
gavintries to remove eclipse-ecj, any attempt to apt-get install or apt-get remove returns E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:55
da_bon_bonwhy does hibernate on ubuntu blank the screen ? that way, people like me, who donot use acpi cant know when to switch of the computer.02:55
sleptGlueGadget, you need to use resize2fs02:55
pittisivang: ifconfig does not display it?02:55
sivangpitti: I'll check, the machine cannot have network currently so I may need to use a usb key or something02:55
sivangpitti: gemme 10secs02:55
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poningruda_bon_bon: that was also raised as an issue dont worry its being looked at02:55
mahanguwhat codecs do i need to play real audio?02:55
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mahangufor xine02:55
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da_bon_bonponingru: yay! but is the fix in for breezy ? or breezy+1 ?02:56
SpiderManDo you guys recommend using the dist-upgrade from Hoary ? Or should I go through the reinstall ?02:56
gavinany attempt to apt-get install or apt-get remove: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 102:56
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nihaointelikey, slept : /etc/fstab is as it is now for a long time. but I see the difference in TOP command after I input "swapon" commands as you instructed. so a bit weird to me...02:56
poningruda_bon_bon: not for breazy, it will probably be in for dapper02:56
da_bon_bon:(02:56
mahangureal audio codecs anyone?02:56
da_bon_bonso i cannot use hibernate in breezy02:57
JDigitalmultiverse maybe02:57
da_bon_bonubotu: tell mahangu about w32codecs02:57
damo21when is dapper scheduled for release?02:57
gavinmahangu: why no use real?02:57
JDigitaldamo21: like six months02:57
poningruda_bon_bon: yeah sorry dude without acpi I dont think you can use hibernate at all02:57
da_bon_bondamo21: 20060402:57
mahangugavin, eh?02:57
kagen_uh hey guys, ever since I moved to XFCE, theres no search feature, and I really need that feature, what I can I do?02:57
da_bon_bonponingru: hibernate works fine, but i must use my judgement on when to switch the pc off02:57
gavinmahangu: use realplayer for linux02:57
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mahangugavin, apt-get?02:57
gavinno02:58
vengefulargh did someone just say realplayer02:58
mahangucompile?02:58
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vengefulhow did that filth get into linux anyway02:58
da_bon_bonvengeful: ya ! its not filth02:58
mahanguhehe02:58
damo21kagen: use gnome-search-tool or xfglob402:58
mahangui just downloaded south park02:58
wezzerbreezyyy!02:58
mahangui need .rm02:58
mahangui hate it too02:58
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da_bon_bonmahangu: ask ubotu about w32codecs ! that includes real !02:58
quendihi there friends02:58
poningruda_bon_bon: yeah thats what I meant02:58
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poningru!tell mahangu about realplayer02:59
quendii got this problem and i just thought about asking if some ubuntu-related solutions could exist02:59
poningrumahangu: have you read through that?02:59
da_bon_bon!tell da_bon_bon about realplayer02:59
gavindoes anyone here know what to do when apt-get crashes due to one application that does not want to cleanly remove or re-install?02:59
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quendithe most stupid thing..forgot my bios password and i got no floppies so is there any other way of flashing my bios?03:00
poningrugavin: have you tried wgetting the thing and using the deb?03:00
mahanguponingru, thanks ill have a look03:00
poningruoh doh03:00
damo21gavin: try dpkg -P badpackage03:00
da_bon_bonponingru: grep umount * in /etc/acpi gives nothing03:00
poningrugavin: belay that03:00
Admiral_Snyderquendi aren't there any master-passwords?03:00
gavinthe point is i cant use apt-get for anything03:00
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neoyyfThis is my first time to use X-Chat,nice to meet you03:01
danimarquezhi, i'm totally new with linux, and ubuntu... anyone could explain me, from A to Z how to install and use the "wine"?03:01
share_moonquendi, take ur battery of main board03:01
poningrugavin: does synaptic work?03:01
quendisnyder i dont think so but where can i find out? i got a shuttle mk40vn board03:01
gavinit runs, but wont install or remove anything03:01
quendishare_moon that works? i think i tried allready03:01
poningrugavin: hmm ic03:01
neoyyfgood luck,every one03:01
share_moonit works03:01
damo21gavin: try dpkg -P badpackage03:01
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share_moonbut u have to wait sometime03:02
quendiok kewl! =) good that i got it on setup mode03:02
lemics_can someone help me on therm_adt746x ibook module on ubuntu ?03:02
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damo21gavin that will remove the package completely from your system03:02
quendiyeah share i think i didnt wait long enough..sorry about the off-topic03:02
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danimarquezor tell me a website where explains how to install things on Ubuntu, clearly for a user of Windows... I use the Synapter, and it seems that installs Wine, but I dont find it anywhere later03:03
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kagen_hey, I just installed wine, but I don't know how to use it....03:03
poningrudanimarquez: what did you want to install using wine?03:03
mahanguponingru, i cant do apt-get03:03
da_bon_bonkagen_: wine foo.exe03:03
mahanguno installation candidate?03:03
share_moonwhat is wine about?03:03
danimarquezincredimail, for example03:03
damo21$ wine win32binary.exe03:03
da_bon_bonmahangu: no install candidate of what ?03:03
CrackersKeenanok anybody know how to get yahoo messenger working with webcam?  or how to get new format wmv's to play on ubuntu?03:04
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mahanguda_bon_bon, ralplayer03:04
mahangu*real03:04
signiusIs webcam supported on yahoo messenger under Linux03:04
poningruCrackersKeenan: no on both not possible, wmv3 is experimental on vlc03:04
da_bon_bonmahangu: realplayer is in the hoary-extras03:04
danimarquezponingru: different  programs, like incredimail and maybe Office XP03:04
signiusIt didn used to be only used to work under windows03:04
CrackersKeenanponingru:  does "experimental" mean it won't work?03:04
damo21danimarquez: use OPENOFFICE!03:04
kagen_uhm that doesn't make any sense...03:04
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mahanguda_bon_bon, what's the deb uri for that?03:05
mahangucan you query it to me?03:05
mustard5!tell CrackersKeenan about webcam03:05
poningruCrackersKeenan: experimental means its being worked on right now, expect it very soon03:05
da_bon_bonmahangu: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net -- explore from there on in pool03:05
danimarquezOk, about OpenOffice... I used once and it went too slowly (in Windows at least), but I will give it another opportunity03:05
JDigitalThat's one thing I dislike about Synaptic; it doesn't add menu items for thigns you install.03:05
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poningruwait that backports mirror is down03:05
mahanguda_bon_bon, thanks mate03:06
CrackersKeenanmustard5 and poningru:  thanks lads03:06
mahanguah fudge03:06
mustard5CrackersKeenan, np03:06
poningrumahangu: dude use the official backports03:06
damo21danimarquez: its only a matter of time before people format their windoze and switch to linux/openoffice03:06
quendiso is there a general / that contains the software03:06
da_bon_bonmahangu: np :03:06
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kagen_you're not making any damn sense, I installed wine with synaptic, now how do I use it?03:06
mahanguponingru, i think ihave, what's the uri?03:06
poningrumahangu: why arent you just using the helix?03:06
kagen_I can't find it anywhere03:06
mahanguponingru, realplayer?03:06
CrackersKeenanwhen is breezy coming out?03:06
mahanguhelix?03:06
JDigitalCrackersKeenan: In two days :)03:07
poningrumahangu: yeah helix its the realplayer for linux03:07
mahanguCrackersKeenan, 13th03:07
CrackersKeenanwow cool03:07
mustard5kagen did you install binfmt as well?03:07
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kagen_no, I don't even know what that is03:07
quendiif anyone hasnt noticed, you can allready order the breezy disk in advance03:07
danimarquezdamo21: you are right, i would give a full oportunity to the linux programs... and agree with Office... but Incredimail I used to like, effective and nice. Any idea?03:07
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mustard5you can start programs in wine using the command line03:07
poningru!tell kagen_ about wine03:07
mahanguponingru, couldn't find package helix03:08
poningru!wine03:08
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CrackersKeenancool... will be very interested03:08
mustard5just type 'wine <program.exe>'03:08
kagen_type that where?03:08
poningrumahangu: hold on03:08
damo21danimarquez: i dont know of incredimail, try evolution very similar to outlook03:08
JDigitalUse Alt-F2 to open a terminal window03:08
mahangu!backports03:08
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:08
mustard5in a terminal window03:08
JDigitalThere really needs to be a well-written Ubuntu beginners' manual :)03:08
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JDigitalThe Amiga had a ton of awesome manuals.03:08
kagen_..wine command not found03:08
share_moonamiga?03:09
mustard5if you install binfmt it allows you to double click on executables03:09
share_moonwhere is it?03:09
CrackersKeenanso i guess there's no way to convert wmvs to mp3?03:09
kagen_i'll go get that then03:09
CrackersKeenanor a website that can somehow emulate playing it?03:09
quendido you know what do to with .run links ? planeshift has one, and i have no idea what it does03:09
mustard5what directory is your .exe file in ?03:09
danimarquezdamo21: ok, thanks a lot. I have other questions... My tv card is detected, but I think I should configure it, and don't know how03:09
JDigitalmplayer plays .wmv I think03:09
JDigitalor xmms03:09
kagen_hold on03:09
JDigitalYou can get wine from Synaptic03:09
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JDigitalI think you have to add the universe/multiverse repositories though03:09
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damo21danimarquez: dvb card?03:10
poningrumahangu: http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=hc.org03:10
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danimarquezdamo21: tv card. Avertv USB 2.003:10
mustard5danimarquez, you using xawtv?03:10
kagen_mustard5, where is binfmt?03:10
mahanguthanks poningrru03:10
mustard5in synaptic03:11
mustard5i might have spelling wrong03:11
poningrunp dude03:11
damo21i have dntv live dvb card .. ubuntu found it no problem i can stream it directly to mplayer03:11
poningrukagen_: dude read through the thing that ubotu msged you about03:11
mustard5if you search for name and description 'wine' in synaptic it should come up in the list03:11
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danimarquezmustard5: no, using Tvtime Television Viwer... anyway, I think I have to find the way to configure it, because the program doesnt find the source of video03:11
poningruI dont understand why wine installed without binfmt03:11
kagen_poningru, alright alright.03:12
N6REJhey guys, I've got a problem again.... I followed the wiki for gettting postfix smtp-auth & tls to work, and it doesn't look like it does.  It says I should telnet into port 25 and see "startTLS" but I don't03:12
sivangpitti: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/interfaces , the eth1 entries I added by hand03:12
damo21danimarquez: if it is a dvb card it wont work probably03:12
damo21not in tvtime03:12
mustard5danimarquez, ok..I use xawtv which is configured using scantv03:12
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danimarquezOk, I will try with xawtv03:13
sivangpitti: including the "map eth1" entry03:13
mustard5danimarquez, you on hoary or breezy?03:13
danimarquezmustard5: the problem is that i dont know how to install things from Synaptics, only from "Add Aplications"03:13
steigweisthe font "courier" is not displayed on my system. on this page everthing in the content space is blank http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/ww3.html03:13
Whistleri want to set up phpmyadmin.I installed apache and php and mysql.So can i just type apt-get install phpmyadmin?03:13
mustard5ah k03:13
danimarquezmustard5: I don't know... the last one, version 10 I think03:13
mustard55.10 ok03:14
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steigweisany suggestions how to get the courier font displayed?03:14
pittisivang: that looks odd - there is no eth0 nor eth103:14
sivangdanimarquez: snyanptic is really easy, after you executed it, you just need to search for the package you want, apply it , acccept its dependencies and that;s all03:14
gavineclipse users: beware of major bug in eclipse ecj that will break apt-get03:14
pittisivang: oh, ok, eth1 is there03:14
mustard5if you get a terminal up can walk you through it03:14
primoturboIs there any other sites beside gnome-art that allow u to customize gnome?03:14
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gavinsolution is in the forums03:14
pittisivang: try adding "wireless-mode managed" to ath003:14
primoturboI'm looking for some custom stuff03:14
sivangpitti: eth0 as well "iface ath0 inet dhcp"03:14
primoturboany ideas?03:14
damo21WOW wine worked with an old 16-bit app which talks directly to raw midi port03:14
share_moongavin: where is the forum?03:14
intelikeynihao danimarquez wine ?    how about you type "sudo apt-get install wine " in a terminal?03:14
WhistlerI installed apache and php and mysql.So can i just type apt-get install phpmyadmin?03:15
pittisivang: please clean up ath0 vs. eth0 and try the wireless-mode03:15
danimarquezsivang: but i tried to install things, like "wine" and it says that is installed but i don't find it anywhere03:15
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intelikeysorry nihao was not supposed to be in that one ^03:15
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sivangdanimarquez: maybe it doesn't have a menu entry, try runnign wine from a terminal03:15
kagen_thx for the link, sorry, just kinda ancy right now =\03:15
mustard5danimarquez, if you got you System >> Administration>>Synaptic you can install from there03:15
sivangpitti: you mean, to try using only the ath0 with wireless mode?03:15
share_moonexit03:15
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intelikeydanimarquez to run wine try "wine <some/windows.app> "03:16
Slaj_RQuestion:  I've been using Ubuntu for 3 days now, and in the tray I have a notification that over 100 updates are available.  Is it generally a good idea to just install all of them?03:16
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pittisivang: yes03:16
poningruSlaj_R: yeah def a good idea03:16
JDigitalYeah03:16
pittisivang: does manual ifconfig work?03:16
JDigitalIt might take a while though03:16
mustard5what type of internet connection Slaj_R ?03:16
sivangpitti: hmm, I didn't try , I will try that as well03:16
nihaointelikey: it doesn't matter. I make the similar mistakes often :)03:16
Slaj_ROkay, 'cause a lot of them look the same as what I have already... OOo v. 1.9.129, for example.03:17
Slaj_Rmustard5: cable03:17
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mustard5uk03:17
danimarquezintelikey, does it mean that i have to replace >03:17
mustard5k03:17
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intelikeyyes03:17
sivangpitti: what if I want to have only regular non wifi PCIMCA card for eth1 ?03:17
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mahangu_poningru, just downloading the .bin03:17
sivangpitti: (that is waht I currently try to test, as start)03:17
mahangu_do i just dbl click?03:17
mahangu_thanks guys03:17
danimarquezintelkey, does it mean that i have to replace <some/windows> for the name of the program that i have in my desktop?03:17
pittisivang: I don't understand the question03:17
mustard5danimarquez, yes..replace that part with your application name03:17
poningrumahangu: sudo realwhatever.bin03:18
poningrurun it in terminal03:18
Slaj_Ralso, can someone remind me -- what's the command to check if a particular package is installed?  i forget offhand.03:18
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mahangu_poningru, thanks03:18
mustard5and make sure you are in the right working directory, danimarquez03:18
mahangu_after it installs i can just kill the bin?03:18
poningrumahangu: it should stop by itself03:18
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poningrumahangu: I would let it run its course03:18
danimarquezmustard5: i feel a little stupid in front all of you... im very new... but i wanted to learn linux. i think your suggestions inspire me to continue with my experiments03:19
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intelikeydanimarquez "wine '/my_windows_dir/Program Files/accessories/wordpad.exe'"  or something along that line.03:19
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mustard5:)03:19
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mustard5everyone is new here , danimarquez03:19
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N6REJwhere is everyone today... nobody wants to answer questions :(03:19
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Protequehey. where should the codecs for mplayer be copied to on ubuntu?03:20
sector10N6REJ: what you got?03:20
danimarquezintelikey: you mean that i have to go to the directory of windows? that's saying that the program has to be installed in windows and not in ubuntu?03:20
N6REJ<----- feels like he's the only one using breezy as a server.03:20
sivangpitti: I don't want to use ath0 anymore, just regualr wired connection through eth103:20
jonasbjorkN6REJ: i installed breezy yesterday as a server for a client03:20
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intelikeydanimarquez no.   that was only an example.03:21
gfxstylerhi03:21
N6REJsector10: I'm following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix and at the end it says I should telnet 25 and see STARTTLS and I don't03:21
da_bon_bonhow do i disable update notifier for good ? i tried removing from startup, saved a session after closing it, but stil it starts03:21
gfxstylerdo i need postfix and fetchmail to check my mails in evolution or thunderbird?03:21
mustard5danimarquez, when wine is configured it can create a fake windows directory03:21
sector10N6REJ: oh im not. im using fedora core 2 for that, wish i could switch03:21
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N6REJwell, I'm TRYING to get smtp-auth & TLS to work03:21
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mahangu_anybody here run photoshop under wine?03:22
intelikeydanimarquez "wine qv2.exe" will work if qv2.exe is in the $PWD03:22
N6REJjonasbjork: it seems to work well, just slow for me to configure03:22
poningrudanimarquez: what exactly are you trying to install because almost everything thats in windows is in linux as well03:22
sector10N6REJ: for a mail server? is it qmail?03:22
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N6REJsector10: postfix03:22
lemics_you can use xwine as well03:22
poningrudanimarquez: many small time games usually are not03:22
jonasbjorkN6REJ: i used to run debian on servers before, only two own left, then it's ubuntu everywhere i go :] 03:22
sivangpitti: thing is, that when I try ifup eth1 it tells me device does not exist, do you think its due to the messiness of the file currently?03:22
alex3305_how can i use standby in Ubuntu (5.10-pre) ?03:22
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longsleephey folks i am trying to compile zope on hoary and the large file support check fails with IOError .. but only with a user account but works fine as root .. why is that?03:22
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dbugProteque, usualy put in /usr/lib/codesc03:23
dbug*codecs03:23
N6REJjonasbjork: well, if I can get this last part of postfix fixed I'll have mail working I think.03:23
danimarquezintelikey and mustard5 and poningru: thanks for your ideas... i will try to follow what you inspired me. Just a last thing: how I do to write in Arabic? I mean, sometimes in Arabic sometimes in English...03:23
jonasbjorkN6REJ: great :] , my mailserver is running debian stable for now. dont have the time to migrate ;)03:23
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mirakwhat is the name of the ATI control panel ?03:23
mirakthe binary03:23
pittisivang: as long as "ifconfig eth1 <ip> up" does not work, ifup can't do better03:23
N6REJjonasbjork: do you use smtp-auth?03:24
sivangpitti: ok, I will check and report back03:24
mustard5danimarquez, I have no idea :)03:24
jonasbjorkN6REJ: nope. all isp's in sweden blocks port 25 anyway so our clients uses isp's smtp-relay03:24
intelikeylongsleep hmmmm. maybe file system reserved superuser space interfearing with it.....03:24
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N6REJjonasbjork: interesting.03:24
sector10N6RE: sorry, i use qmail i just reinstalled it after a smtp-auth problem03:25
N6REJsector10: what was ur smpt-auth problem?03:25
mirakwhat is the name of the ATI control panel ?03:25
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danimarquezmustard: i mean, to change the keyboard, like in windows, that there is the language try down03:25
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da_bon_bonhow does one change the theme of usplash ?03:26
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longsleepintelikey: mhm that might be .. any idea how to turn that off?03:26
danimarquezmustard5: i mean, to change the keyboard, like in windows, that there is the language tray down03:26
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mustard5danimarquez, system>>preferences>>keyboard?03:26
intelikeydanimarquez i'm not familear with gnome but kde has an app for that.  part of the kdesktop-tools  i'm sure that gnome does too.03:27
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danimarquezmustard5 and intelikey: thanks a lot03:27
mustard5danimarquez, np03:27
sector10N6RE: smtp was not running, problem was /etc/xitetd.d/smtp.psa03:27
intelikeylongsleep i never tried after a format.  you can select that before you format it.....  tune2fs might be able to.03:28
danimarquezmustard5 and intelikey: thanks a lot really. Now I have to  go. My neighbour is calling me03:28
danimarquezbye!03:28
mustard5bye03:28
N6REJsector10: k, I'll check.. ty03:28
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sector10N6RE: no. do you use plesk?03:28
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Cat111hiya!03:28
Cat111any of you guys have mariah carey for ubuntu?03:28
sector10N6REJ: no. do you use plesk?03:28
TiMiDohi Cat11103:28
TiMiDoCat111 huh?03:28
Cat111hey TiMiDo03:29
Cat111a/s/l03:29
TiMiDoCat111 #ubuntu-offtopic03:29
intelikeylongsleep tune2fs -m03:29
mustard5:D03:29
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intelikeyit would be worth looking into.03:29
Hendrichi all... i got a problem with serial mice... why does it frequently stops moving??? is this a SERIAL PORT issue?? doesn't happen on PS2 mice..03:29
TiMiDoHendric usb?03:29
sector10N6REJ: i had to rename that file and restart xinetd03:30
Hendricnot USB.. d old SERIAL COMPORT03:30
WhyvasLTanyone have a copy of the current prism54 drivers??03:30
mustard5hairs in the way, Hendric ?03:30
WhyvasLTthe site is down03:30
mustard5ah k serial03:30
sector10N6REJ: then everything worked, i wish there was a server irc somewhere for us03:30
Hendrici got old PCs here with only SERIAL port.. doesn't have a PS2.. mouse stops moving.. then after a few mins moves again.. dunno why..03:30
Hendrici think a certian program is accessing it rendering my mouse to stop moving...03:31
mustard5Hendric, dirty rollers?03:31
longsleepintelikey: i just did a tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda103:31
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longsleepintelikey: but still the same problem03:31
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Hendricno not dirty rollers... d mouse works fine on windows...03:31
sector10N6REJ: if it helps this is the command i used to restart.../etc/init.d/xinetd restart03:31
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Hendricany way to see which program is accessing my serial port???03:32
longsleepintelikey: anytime i try f.seek(2147483649L) on a file in python as user i get IOError, but works fine as root03:32
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Hendricbe back03:32
sector10N6REJ: hello? are you there?03:32
sector10oh well03:33
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termitor_taffcd /j #debian03:33
termitor_taffls03:33
sector10has anybody installed opera?03:33
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morganhi03:34
damo21does norton ghost work with linux partitions?03:34
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tarvidbreezy upgrade went badly, many update, upgrades, dist-upgrades, -r installs and still errors that won't fix03:34
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tarviddamo21, yes03:34
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damo21which file systems does it support?03:34
tarvidis there a fresh install in my future?\03:34
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tarviddamo21, ext3,203:34
morgancould some body help me with AMULE03:35
sector10tarvid: i would fresh it, just back up home directory first03:35
damo21not xfs?03:35
ScatterBrainAnyone know if a *working* mPlayer will be in Breezy?03:35
tarviddamo21, not sure, never tried it03:35
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TiMiDoScatterBrain nope03:35
damo21:)03:35
Tomcat_morgan: What's the problem?03:35
mustard5ScatterBrain, I didn't notice one03:35
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morganI cant find server03:36
damo21I'll give it a go, if it doesnt work i'll format to ext303:36
damo21hehe03:36
ScatterBrainOk, thanks guys.03:36
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Tomcat_morgan: Try ed2k:|server|62.241.53.16|4242|03:37
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morganTomcat_:  thank you03:37
occy2 days!03:37
occy:)03:37
Tomcat_I'm currently on there, so it should work.03:37
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mahangu_ok i got the realplayer.bin03:37
mahangu_how do i execute it?03:37
Tomcat_mahangu_: chmod u+x realplayer.bin && ./realplayer.bin03:37
N6REJat the risk of starting a flamewar what smtp servers do people use?03:37
Tomcat_N6REJ: exim :)03:38
N6REJI was looking at courier because of the nat features.03:38
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bartphi03:38
Tomcat_Well, to be honest, exim4 came with debian, so I just used it... I don't need many features, and spamassassin works well with exim.03:39
Strogcourier isn't smtp03:39
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N6REJstrog, your right I sit corrected, I MEANT the sister part to postfix03:39
mahangu_tomcat : what path should iinstall to?03:39
mahangu_/usr/bin/realplayer?03:40
sector10tarvid: cp -R /home/* <destination>   then go for breezy. is what id did.03:40
damo21how do u create the right registry entries for pc-games in wine?03:40
Tomcat_mahangu_: Eh... no idea, I don't use realplayer. You might want to check the forum, or maybe somebody here knows.03:40
StrogN6REJ: Ahh, postfix. A great mail server. :)03:40
sector10N6REJ: if it helps this is the command i used to restart.../etc/init.d/xinetd restart03:40
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occyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes  <-- I guess this still isn't recommended huh?03:40
pc15hola a todas03:40
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pasopiritaholap'03:40
pasopiritagenesis habla03:41
mustard5occy,  I'm not sure03:41
sH4 i use touchpad,usb mount in my laptop , but i only want to use usb mouse, how to is it ? , can u help me.. ?03:41
pc15si ya cacho03:41
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sH4usb mount -> usb mouse.. sorry;03:41
mahangu_ah03:41
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mahangu_i installed it but it doesnt work03:41
pasopiritaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyyyyeeeeeeeeeeee03:41
occysH4, I have hotkeys set to turn off my touchpadd.03:41
pasopirita lok maana me voy a arica ......03:41
pc15oye es un poco raro este chat03:41
N6REJstrog, so what do I use for the other half of postfix?  I was trying to install smpt-auth & TLS but I think maybe I missed somethign because telnet servername 25 doesn't say "startTLS" like the wiki said it would... says lots of other things but not that.03:41
occysH4, F7/F8 turn off and on my mouse pad.03:41
mahangu_pasopirita, #ubuntu-es03:42
pasopiritasiiii.....03:42
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sH4occy , hm.. thx just test it ;03:42
pc15oye te vas a arica03:42
apoZ`03:42
pc15?03:42
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sH4ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff03:42
occyumm03:42
pasopiritaoye genesis03:42
Tomcat_wth03:42
occySeveas, heh, wake up.03:42
pc15que ?03:42
pasopiritano o ea mentira ....03:43
mahangu_Seveas, ping03:43
occySeveas, some real channel spammers are here. :)03:43
pasopiritajajajjajjaa03:43
pasopiritaXD03:43
Tomcat_Oh lawd is dat sum spamming? :>03:43
N6REJpc15:  pia #ubuntu-es03:43
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pc15jajaja03:43
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mahangu_there we go03:43
StrogN6REJ: You can use courier for imap or dovecot is nice too. postfix just handles the receiving side of it.03:43
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N6REJstrog, great, ty!03:43
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occySeveas, thanks03:43
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N6REJstrog: if imap is missing will the startTLS not be there as well?03:43
Seveasoccy, mahangu_ there is the !ops trigger too03:44
Strogcorrect03:44
occySeveas, I ain't touchin' nothing.03:44
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occy:P~03:44
mahangu_Seveas, thanks03:44
mahangu_what does that do?03:44
N6REJstrog: ok, then that explains whats happening... tyvm.03:44
Seveas!ops03:44
ubotuops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth03:44
Seveasthat03:44
TiMiDo!ops i love u =)03:44
ubotuTiMiDo: I don't know, could you explain it?03:44
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mahangu_ah03:44
Amaranthwhat?03:44
Amaranthoh03:44
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mahangu_haha03:44
mahangu_there we go03:45
Seveassee, it works =)03:45
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N6REJlol03:45
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mahangu_man this is a pita03:45
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SeveasI love you too Amaranth :)03:45
mahangu_realplayer downloaded03:45
paulissenlo folks03:45
mahangu_i installed the bin03:45
mahangu_but wont run03:45
paulisseni have a display problem03:45
Amaranthtrying to do school work here :P03:45
N6REJback later guys03:45
occymahangu_, :(03:45
occymahangu_, I hate video under Linux03:45
paulisseni only have the option for 640 * 48003:45
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paulissendesktop...03:45
paulissenso it sucks so low resolution...03:45
paulissenplease help me out03:45
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occymahangu_, the Ubuntu Guide had good help for getting video going under Ubuntu, but apparently it's "The Wrong Way" to do things.03:46
Seveas!resolution03:46
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:46
Seveasoccy, Ubuntu now has it's own official FAQ guide03:46
sH4occy , maybe i have not hotkeys;03:46
mahangu_anyway i can get rm to work in xine?>03:46
occySeveas, yeah?03:46
Seveassystem -> help03:46
mahangu_id love that03:46
mahangu_or totem even03:46
occyjdub, you here?03:47
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lemics_use vlc duh03:47
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paulissenthanks ubotu03:47
paulissengonna check it out03:47
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Amaranthoccy: Maybe dapper+1 if it's not cracktastic. :)03:48
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occyAmaranth, hehe03:48
occycracktastic.  Great word.03:48
apoZ`Hi, can anybody help me please03:48
TiMiDoask03:48
MerovingianHello everyone, can someone please help me a little.  I recently downloaded Ubuntu, but a lot of the programs I want to use are availible for Linux but when I try to install them, for some reason I cant.  However, many of these programs are availible for Redhat and Debian...Should I switch to one of those?03:48
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onkarshindewhat does exactly DVD image of breezy contains? Is it just all three architecture CD isos on one DVD or something else?03:48
occyAmaranth, with Garrett and that crew, anything can become cracktastic.[tm Amaranth] 03:49
paulissenubotu, that is a slow site isn't it?03:49
apoZ`I would like to play music, archived on my other network pc03:49
ubotupaulissen: I think you lost me on that one03:49
onkarshindeapoZ`: Please state your question03:49
Amaranthoccy: I got cracktastic from irc://irc.gnome.org/gnome-hackers :)03:49
mahangu_paulissen, ubotu is a bot03:49
paulissenlooool03:49
paulissenbut the wiki site is slow03:49
apoZ`but i can only open LOCAL folders in all my music-applications03:49
Hendriccan anyone help me with old serial mice?? frequently stops responding.. but responds back after a few minutes.. SUSPECT: another program accesses the serial port stopping the mouse.03:49
occySeveas, where is this Official Ubuntu guide you speak of?03:49
apoZ`Does anybody know how to play music from a network folder ?03:49
Amaranthoccy: it's the wiki03:49
occyAmaranth, ahh03:50
Amaranthoccy: http://wiki.ubuntu.com03:50
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Seveasoccy, system -> help03:50
occyinteresting03:50
Seveasor doc.ubuntu.com (soon: help.ubuntu.com)03:50
occythat's kinda cool03:50
onkarshindeapoZ`: In Places menu there is something called connect to server03:50
occyman03:50
occyI love Ubuntu03:50
occy:)03:50
netstarDo you think the rc is likely to change much?03:50
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Hendriccool.. breezy got 100+ updates today only.03:50
occythese kids are really stepping things up with the SVG icons as of late.03:51
onkarshindeapoZ`: See if it helps. Also AFAIK xmms supports playing songs from network.03:51
occyAmaranth, you seen the new Vista Inspirate icons?  (it's incomplete as a set, but...)03:51
onkarshindeHendric: When did you last update?03:51
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Amaranthoccy: nope, link?03:51
Hendriconkarshinde, yesterday03:51
occysec03:51
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apoZ`onkarshinde,  i know where to find my network files, but i can't play them03:51
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occyhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2835203:52
Hendriconkarshinde, my fresh installed breezy yesterday got 497 updates.. when i wake up today... it asks me to update 129 updates03:52
onkarshindeapoZ`: I think that tool will help you mount your network storage as local folder.May be after that you can try playing those file.03:52
mahangu_Hendric, packages are being updated daily b/c it's close to release03:52
occyAmaranth, and he uses Ubuntu. :)03:52
mahangu_that's why we suggested people wait till after the 13th03:52
mahangu_when it's declared stable03:52
Hendricmahangu_, yeah i know.. i was amazed by the hardwork03:53
apoZ`onkarshinde, what tool ?03:53
mahangu_Hendric, oh, my bad :)03:53
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mahangu_these guys are awesome eh?03:53
Hendricmahangu_, they are angels...03:53
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onkarshindeapoZ`: Somewhere on Places menu there is something called connect to network03:53
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apoZ`yes03:54
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Hendriccan anyone help me with old serial mice?? frequently stops responding.. but responds back after a few minutes.. SUSPECT: another program accesses the serial port stopping the mouse.03:54
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Hendricany work around?? my 4 PC's with serial mouse interface are experiencing the same problem.. PS2 PCs worked fine..03:54
morganTomcat_: are you still there?03:55
onkarshindeanyone using XFCE on breezy? Which version is installed by default?03:55
Hendriconkarshinde, im on it...03:55
HendricXFCE403:55
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lemics_what version did you expect :)03:55
netstar4.0 4.1 4.2? 4.2.2?03:55
onkarshindeHendric: That's oka XFCE 4. but which minor version? 4.1 or 4.2?03:55
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Hendric4.203:56
Amaranthoccy: I don't like it.03:56
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Tomcat_morgan: Yeah.03:56
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occyAmaranth, well, taste is different for everyone, but... they are doing some neat things with SVG is all I'm sayying.03:56
onkarshindeHendric: Please give me exact number, 4.2.x03:56
apoZ`onkarshinde, nopez, still doesn"t work03:56
morganSorry man, but I am new working with ubuntu and amule03:56
Amaranthoccy: yeah, SVG is always good03:56
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why-oh-whythe03:56
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morganand I can find a serve03:57
onkarshindeapoZ`: are you using Rhythmbox? Did you try xmms?03:57
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Whistlerhow do i make nautilus to boot together with icewm ?03:57
Hendric4.2 only03:57
Amaranthoccy: Used Firefox 1.5 Beta 2? It's got SVG using Cairo (all platforms) and <canvas> support, people are actually making games and such with the two + Javascript. :D03:57
apoZ`onkarshinde, i'm using Rhytmbox idd, what is xmms ?03:57
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seliniumHi all, for some reason FIrefox 1.0.7 is not working on my machine. It fails to initialise. Any ideas?03:57
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seliniumHi Seveas03:57
why-oh-whyhiya Seveas03:57
why-oh-whyand hi selinium03:57
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seliniumHi apokryphos03:58
lemics_check the logs03:58
seliniumhi why-oh-why :)03:58
onkarshindeapoZ`: xmms is (or was) considered the best music player around. You can install it from Synaptic03:58
helpme is there any place where i can search all the ubuntu repos for a particular package?? im on another dsitro right now.......03:58
Whistleranybody can help me?03:58
HendricSeveas, can i discuss a certain suspected BUG i experienced??? can be helpful maybe...03:58
onkarshindehelpme: archive.ubuntu.com03:59
Whistlerhow do i make nautilus to boot together with icewm ?03:59
onkarshindeWhistler: what help do you need?03:59
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Whistleronkarshinde 2 lines abowe03:59
onkarshindeWhistler: Most probably by editing your .xinitrc03:59
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apoZ`onkarshinde, no results when searching for xmms04:00
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onkarshindeWhistler: But I am not sure it will work.04:00
HendricapoZ`, add more repos04:00
Whistleronkarshinde is this file at home dir?04:00
Amaranthhelpme: http://packages.ubuntu.com04:00
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apoZ`already did that yesterday04:00
occyAmaranth, that's scary.04:00
Kalidarnanyone know why X-Chat v2.4.5 isn't in Ubuntu?04:00
apokryphosselinium: hi04:00
seliniumapoZ`, You cant find xmms?04:01
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Kalidarni would have thought that someone would have added it to the repository already.04:01
Kalidarnas well as Azureus.04:01
apoZ`nope04:01
Hendricapokryphos, is the synaptic error fixed already????04:01
enigmaticKalidarn, with over 15,000 packages need to have some patience :P04:01
Amaranthoccy: I was using this cool 3D thing the other day. It was a simple 3D environment that you could walk around in using the keyboard. All done using <canvas> and Javascript.04:01
onkarshindeapoZ`: I think you have not enabled universe repos.04:01
apokryphosHendric: what error?04:01
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occyAmaranth, things like that, for some reason, scare me to no end.04:02
Kalidarnenigmatic: :) theyre just really really really common ones, infact X-Chat is defaultly in ubuntu so i figured someone would have noticed it needed upgrading.04:02
Hendricabout the "failed to run /usr/bin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status"04:02
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why-oh-whyHendric: You've probably changed to a driver that doesn't support 3D stuff.04:02
occyAmaranth, I guess it simply signals the death of the web as we know it.04:02
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Hendrichappens with a fresh install breezy04:02
KalidarnHendric: RC1?04:02
Amaranthoccy: It signals the birth of a better web. :)04:02
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occynod04:02
why-oh-whyThe Turks are taking over the web!   ayyyyy!04:02
Amaranthoccy: gmail++ to the extreme04:02
apoZ`onkarshinde, I get an error when i open Synaptic04:03
enigmaticKalidarn, like I said, there are over 15,000 packages and a new release coming out and no real security/vulnerability issues with either so it isn't that much of a priority in comparison to other things04:03
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seliniumoccy only TWO days now! :)04:03
onkarshindeapoZ`: What error?04:03
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occyselinium, heh, :)04:03
Kalidarnenigmatic: 2.4.4 has a security vulnrability thats why 2.4.5 is out.04:03
HendricKalidarn, d one available for download plus all the updates...04:03
comforteagleI'm trying to install a few webapps on a home ubuntu box.. each time in the install scripts where installing the db the apps will go blank. I can use phpmyadmin to mess wth the dbs.  any ideas on what gives????04:03
apoZ`onkarshinde, Ok found xmms, installing now04:03
Hendricapokryphos,  about the "failed to run /usr/bin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status"04:03
mustard5apoZ`,  breezy or hoary?04:04
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oxezKalidarn: it's available on debian (xchat-2.4.5)04:04
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Kalidarnah04:04
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Kalidarnokay oxez04:04
Kalidarnenigmatic: 10-Sep-200504:05
Kalidarn    Released 2.4.5 for Linux/BSD/Unix. This version has been tested on FC4 and FreeBSD 4.11. It's recommended you upgrade to this version for security reasons.04:05
herrpoonhi there, can anyone tell me how much bandwith ssh'ing takes up?04:05
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seliniumapoZ`, Will you be playing mp3's?04:05
vengefulhardly any?04:05
enigmaticherrpoon, depends on what you're doing04:05
kagen_obviously i'm a fucking dumbass or something, because following a tutorial doesn't even work for me04:05
kagen_fuck04:05
oxezKalidarn: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xchat/04:05
herrpoonwell jsut using irc04:05
herrpoonsay04:05
enigmaticif you're grabbing files, it'll consume as much as you allow it to04:05
enigmaticvery little04:05
onkarshindeDoes XFCE runs fast as compared to GNOME on 128 MB RAM?04:05
herrpoonok cool04:06
vengefulit will run faster04:06
enigmaticonkarshinde, faster04:06
herrpooni use gnome on 128mb ram04:06
vengefulwhy dont you people buy better computers :-P04:06
herrpoonaltouhgh i mainly do stuff in the terminal now thoough04:06
onkarshindeSO I think I will install XFCE and use it by default till I get enough money to add memory to my machine.04:06
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Jonny-THi04:06
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kagen_vengeful, why don't you give us all money?04:06
herrpooni found my ubuntu computer in a bin pretty much04:06
herrpoonhehe04:07
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vengefuli keep for myself ;-) to buy myself computers04:07
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Hendriconkarshinde, im on a 64MB with 450MHZ dell optiplex with 4mb ATI rage onboard... and fast as magic...04:07
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Kalidarnthanks oxez04:07
herrpoonif i had the money id be running ubuntu on dual xeons 4gb04:07
herrpoonwell probably not :P04:07
kagen_well then, MAYBE there is reason i'm on a 300mhz, cause, oh, I don't know, i'm completely broke and have no money?04:07
onkarshindevengeful: Hey, I am in India and in our country the definition of better computer never go by RAM but by GHz, hard disk, optical drive and which version of Windows etc.04:07
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Jonny-Ti thinked about taking mandrake, kubuntu, deian, suse, but i've chosen ubuntu04:07
herrpoonwhat does it go by?04:07
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Jonny-Tits the best for windows user04:08
herrpoonwhat ubuntu?04:08
herrpooni think its a good first step04:08
apoZ`selinium,  yes04:08
Jonny-Tubuntu the newest version gnome04:08
herrpoonoh04:08
herrpoonyeh probably04:09
onkarshindeherrpoon: read last part of my reply. It goes but 'GHz, hard disk, optical drive and which version of Windows'04:09
herrpooni probably prefer kde tbh04:09
selinium!tell apoZ` about mp304:09
herrpoonwihhc veresion of windows!04:09
herrpoonbah04:09
Jonny-Ti have windows now, but I'l make a second partition.04:09
kagen_that tutorial I got on installing wine didn't help me at all04:09
sivangpitti: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/interfaces, still cannot up the intereface. I think some other defitiontions need be done for ifconfig to be able to bring up the interface.04:09
seliniumapoZ`, You will need to read the stuff on restricted formats  :)04:09
vengefuli thought i had problems...i was just looking for a gadget to buy :-) hehe04:09
kagen_all I get is errors saying it can't find packages04:09
mustard5why is that kagen_ ?04:09
herrpooncya04:09
vengefulkagen, not working via synaptic?04:09
mustard5ah k04:09
onkarshindeselinium: It is not about what he wants to play. He wants to play files on network storage.04:10
mustard5have you set up repositories before?04:10
sivangpitti: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/lspci-v.txt04:10
kagen_yes, I have.04:10
Jonny-Tim german my english is not very good.... i wnat to say you much but can't! Laughing Out Loud04:10
mustard5hmmm04:10
seliniumonkarshinde, He would still need to be able to play the stream?04:10
mustard5it would help to see the errors04:10
Jonny-T^^04:10
mustard5otherwise its guesswork04:10
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mustard5paste in the pastebin04:11
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kagen_what paste bin?04:11
mustard5!tell kagen_  about pastebin04:11
vengefula checkout lady shouted at me when i was in germany..for not speaking german. she seemed to think i should learn it for visiting for two weeks04:11
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why-oh-why!tell kagen_  about pastebin04:12
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mustard5paste your error messages in the pastebin and then show us the url to your paste04:12
N6REJ-AFKStrog: what about hula?04:12
sector10anybody got opera?04:12
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Jonny-Thmmmmm learning german is very 'anstrengend' like germans say04:12
StrogN6REJ-AFK: Possibly, I don't know anything about it though. ;-)04:13
sector10cant find the frigin plug-in setting in preferences04:13
N6REJ-AFKStrog: k, ty, back to AFK04:13
Jonny-Ti wouldnt learn german iff i was english, i would learn english i was france04:13
apoZ`selinium,  so i can't play MP3's with ubuntu ???? :|04:14
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mustard5apoZ`,  you can04:14
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kagen_mustard5, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299004:15
seliniumapoZ`, Yes just follow the instructions, MP3 needs to be enabled04:15
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mustard5thanks kagen_04:15
N6REJ-AFKStrog: OMG, there are a million courier packages... How do I know what I need/want?04:15
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mustard5kagen_, are you installing from cvs or something?04:16
kagen_mustard5, i'm using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999604:17
mustard5k04:17
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kagen_Opengl, wine tools, and the compiling all mess up, just gives me errors, dunno why, I did exactly what it told me to04:17
mustard5kagen_, do you have gcc installed?04:18
onkarshindekagen_: I think that thread is for hoary.04:18
apoZ`Where can i type the command : sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 ??04:18
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kagen_mustard5, I don't think so04:18
StrogN6REJ-AFK: Start with the basics and build up as your go. grab base and imap or pop3 (or ssl versions of those if desired) and get the basics working04:18
mustard5install gcc04:18
kagen_onkarshinde, are the differences between breezy and hoary that big?04:19
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apoZ`selinium,  Where can i type the command : sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 ??04:19
kagen_mustard5, how do I install that? apt-get install gcc or something?04:19
onkarshindeI suppose the names of packages have changed. For breezy you may need libglu1-mesa-dev04:19
mustard5try that04:19
mustard5check the version when it installs04:19
seliniumapoZ`, in a terminal Application/System Tools/Terminal04:19
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onkarshindekagen_: And for installing esential build tools you can install package build-esential04:20
kagen_4.004:20
mustard5k04:20
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kagen_k, i'm using that to compile it right now04:20
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kagen_i'll have to get the GL and winetools stuff later04:20
kagen_I gotta go04:20
mustard5k04:20
onkarshindekagen_: And regarding libgtk, you don't need to add 1.2 at the end04:20
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mustard5check back later kagen_  :)04:20
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sector10so wherhe is ubuntu hiding motif plug in needed for opera?04:20
kagen_will do.04:21
RockyBurthm... just did an apt-upgrade and rebooted... ubuntu is no longer auto-loading speedstep-centrino :(04:21
kagen_drivers test04:21
kagen_bah04:21
N6REJ-AFKStrog: k, ty.04:21
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apoZ`selinium, no Terminal in Application/System Tools04:22
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seliniumapoZ`, Are you on breezy?04:22
apoZ`jep04:22
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bpfwhat's the _best_ app for streaming music from an online radio station? every one I use seems fine for a while but then starts to get bad04:23
ErwinIs there a way to install ubuntu on an existing linux partition, without mkfs'ing it? In expert mode, skipping the partitioning and mounting /target myself almost works -- but e.g. grub gets the wrong device numbers and /dev/cdrom is a wrong link.04:23
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mustard5!tell apoZ` about javadeb04:23
seliniumapoZ`, then right cilck on the desktop. I dont know where it is on breezy! :)04:23
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padmawanapoZ: try find terminal in Application/Accessories04:24
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apoZ`selinium, Ok it's working04:25
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mustard5is their an irc client for terminal?04:25
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oxezmustard5: irssi / bitchx04:26
apoZ`selinium, forgot to tick : use as terminal :)04:26
seliniummustard5, irssi04:26
mustard5really hehe04:26
mustard5cool :D04:26
mustard5that would be very handy04:26
apoZ`I'm new to ubuntu , u see: )04:26
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comforteagleI removed php4, installed php4-mysql, restarted apache, but mysql still isn't supported in phpinfo? are there any package problems with ubuntu & php/apache???04:27
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xxtremesector10_ u here04:27
Whistlerppl i did a HORRIBLE mistake04:27
imc_Hi, running breezy what;s the best way to install real? I tried apt-get and the script there wants RP804:28
Whistleri acidentaly formated my hdd04:28
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Whistleri reseted pc at 13 %04:28
Whistleris there any way of restoring my files?04:28
Whistlerat least some of them?04:28
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mustard5Whistler, thats a tough question  :)04:29
sproingieWhistler: how much is your data worth?  data recovery experts could do it, but it'll easily cost you 10 grand or more04:29
mustard5most likely not04:29
rawiramdhanWhistler: In windows it;s possible:)04:29
Whistlermy data is not so worthful04:29
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Whistlerbut my father and bro are going to kill me04:29
sproingierawiramdhan: with FAT maybe.  with NTFS, if he wiped out the MFT, he's just as hosed04:29
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ompaulWhistler, if you have another drive then have a look at coroners tool kit04:30
joeyyhow do i set quota 20mb soft and 50mb hard for a user04:30
Whistlerone disk was in ntfs.But no valuable data there04:30
sproingiejoeyy: man quotactl04:30
Whistlerand there were 52 gb fat32 disk04:31
richxhello04:31
sproingiejoeyy: nevermind that's the syscall04:31
richxdoes anybody know, why they deleted the "Gnome Boot Manager" (for grub) from Breezy?04:31
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Whistlerso any way of restoring my data04:32
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mustard5I don't know, richx04:32
sproingieWhistler: unless you already have some really expert knowledge in data recovery, you're out of luck04:32
LootBeeranyone  here?04:32
richxmhh04:32
richxi liked it04:32
mustard5yes LootBeer04:33
Whistlerpls somebody kill me04:33
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mustard5Whistler, :)04:33
Whistlergrr i hate ubuntu lite install cd04:33
LootBeer my firefox is totally wacked, using a stupid fony size n theme and i cannot even see and use another one cos the use another theme buttons broken, how?04:33
sproingieWhistler: the police have forensic kits that can recover data from a HD that's been partly or even completely formatted, but they ain't cheap or easy04:34
Whistleri just started the setup and there were no partitioner it started to format my hdd04:34
Tomcat_LootBeer: Try moving your profile to another location, then start a new one.04:34
Whistleri got scared and reseted my pc04:34
Whistlerat almost 13%04:34
Whistler/dev/hda1               1          25      200781   82  Linux swap / Solaris04:34
Whistler/dev/hda2   *          26        9729    77947380   83  Linux04:34
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Whistlergrrr04:34
Whistleri had 5 partitions before04:35
Whistler:(04:35
joeyydoes any one know how do i set quota 20mb soft and 50mb hard for a user04:35
hexionhello04:35
LootBeerTomcat_> how do i do that, sir?04:35
mustard5I don't know joeyy04:35
mustard5its a good question though04:35
Whistlerk cya all later04:35
sproingiea busted partition table can be recovered if you put it back to exactly how it was.  a destroyed MFT is not recoverable except from backups04:35
mustard5cya Whistler04:36
Whistleri am going to tell my father about this04:36
Whistler=[04:36
hexionI can't use my joystick (soundcard port) with XMAME... can anyone help me?04:36
mustard5it will be ok04:36
Whistleri dont think so04:36
apoZ`What are the advantages of ubuntu <-> XP ??04:36
Whistlerhe had few gb`s of data04:36
WhistlerapoZ` no viruses,no trojans or spyware04:36
Whistleropen source and a lot more04:36
mustard5I burnt a shed down......it happens04:36
sproingieapoZ`: where to begin ... the fact that you can change the window decorations to something other than plain, blue, or silver is nice :)04:37
hexionI need help with my joystick in Ubuntu04:37
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apoZ`you got screenshot of your environment?04:37
sproingieapoZ`: otherwise ... depends on what you're trying to do.  it's usually faster than windows for most things04:37
quendii was wondering if i should use the ubuntu provided nvidia driver or the nvidia linux forceware?04:38
mustard5apoZ`, the price04:38
sproingieapoZ`: my own environment is dreadfully plain04:38
sproingiesomeone want to point apoZ` to a skins site?  all i know of is kde-look04:38
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sproingiei suppose enlightenment's site has maximum eye candy, but ubuntu doesn't really use e04:39
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apoZ`I don't know how to program open source,  new to ubunt, but i like to learn it since i'm thinking about computerstudies,  anybody got tips?04:39
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sproingieah, gnome-look of course04:39
bpfrepeat: what's the _best_ app for streaming music from an online radio station? every one I use seems fine for a while but then starts to get bad04:39
sproingieapoZ`: browse around www.gnome-look.org and you'll see different screenshots of people's desktops04:40
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quendihow can i connect ubuntu to gnome-look..repositories?04:40
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TiMiDoquendi art.gnome.org for themes04:41
apoZ`Q:  Do i need to restart after enabling MP3, cause still not working04:41
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mustard5quendi, do you play games?04:42
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bpfapoZ`, what did you do to 'enable' it?04:43
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quendimustard5 just adom and planning on planeshift..04:43
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imc_Realplayer help for breezy?04:43
apoZ`bpf, sudo apt-get install k3b-mp304:44
imc_Trying to install using apt-get and it's not working04:44
imc_and I can't seem to find source on the real website, jkust bin and rpm04:44
bpfimc_, you should visit real.com and install the .bin04:44
mustard5!tell imc_  about realplayer04:44
bpfimc_, i don't think you will get a recent version through apt04:44
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imc_Right, bpf, thanks, however it breaks. when I try to install the bin04:45
bpfi have never gotten it to work myself, but I haven't spent much time/energy on it either04:45
imc_complains of ...wait I have to check what it complains about!04:45
imc_Thanks bpf04:45
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bpfi just mount the dir over the network and play rm files on my windows laptop :)04:45
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ChadzaWhere is apache put in the default .deb install?04:50
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TiMiDoChadza whereis apache04:50
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ChadzaIt returns "apache: "04:51
TiMiDothen u haven't installed apache04:51
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xukunwhat is the lease date for breezy?04:51
TiMiDoxukun 2 more days04:51
Wiltuk13th04:51
TiMiDooct 1304:51
xukunthanks guys04:51
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TiMiDonp04:51
vschneckmoin leute04:51
TiMiDovschneck !de04:51
xukunI cant wait!04:51
vschneckis that ger server?04:51
TiMiDo!de04:51
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe04:51
lemics_moin schneck04:51
vschneckhi04:51
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atripathigoodevening all04:53
egoplastiekwhen closing an admin app like synaptic, it restarts immediately, prompting for root password. how can i fix it?04:53
TiMiDogood evening atripathi04:53
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egoplastiekshite, gotta go04:54
egoplastiekbye04:54
lemics_bye04:54
mustard5:)04:54
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shawarmaBreezy is supposed to feature a Ubuntu logo in Gnome panel instead of the foot... It doesn't happen on my system. Any good guesses?04:56
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HiddenWolfshawarma, using custom icon theme?04:57
Ngshawarma: do you have ubuntu-artwork installed? I think you need that04:57
bpfChadza, did you find apache? it should be in /etc/apache04:58
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bpfand the default document root is /var/www04:58
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bronsonThe Ubuntu logo in Breezy looks awful...  The transparency on the antialiasing is messed up so it only works on top of a white background, it's too large, and it doesn't fit in with the rest of the icon theme.05:01
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bronsonI'm hoping they fix it in the next couple days...  Otherwise I'll definitely revert to the foot.05:01
LootBeermy firefox is using a screwed up theme thus rendering it awful looking and worst totally unusable, how can i change a theme... seems stuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:01
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mustard5sounds more like a firefox problem05:02
mustard5your chrome folder is mucked up mostl likely05:02
bpfanyone in here using breezy on amd64 yet?05:02
bronsonLootBeer: only firefox?  "firefox -safe-mode"05:02
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bpfanyone? on amd64? mostly wondering if vmware works05:07
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lalalahello ... i'm new with linux and seek for someone who wants to help me out a bit05:12
elvstonehello. when i search the packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com and find ruby packages the ends with 'ruby16', 'ruby18' and just 'ruby'.. does that mean that the ones ending in just 'ruby' works with both ruby 1.8 and 1.6?05:12
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TiMiDolalala try asking?05:12
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TiMiDoand then we will see what we can do,05:12
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elvstonei just want to make sure that the ruby gtk package is available for breezy with version 1.8 of ruby installed.05:13
lalalai wanna make a samba server ... (later on a gateway, first just share a partiton with a windwos pc)05:13
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lalalafirst of all i want the deamons smbd and nmbd to start at boot05:14
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elvstonei have a minimal POS (point of sale) app written using ruby 1.8 and gtk, and i'm considering using ubuntu on the point of sale terminal..05:14
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coobraSeveas: o/05:14
Seveas!info ruby-gtk05:14
lalalafor this i have to edit the init.d file and make some links ... and ther's my problem ... how do make thos links05:14
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elvstoneanyone know for sure that the 'libgtk2-ruby' for breezy works with ruby 1.8?05:15
Seveasit needs libruby1.8 (>= 1.8.2-9) so i guess it will05:15
lalalaso ... ?05:15
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elvstoneSeveas: ah. okay. thanks.05:16
davedhow can i tell which package i need to install to get a certain file? is there any way to query the file lists of uninstalled packages?05:16
davedi'm looking for ac_nonexistent.h05:16
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Seveas!find ac_nonexistent.h05:16
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alegsanybody can tell me how to configure a lan for mail??05:17
lalalaplease help someone ...05:17
adwaithey ppl05:17
davedSeveas: ?05:17
Seveasdaved, the bot is slow ;)05:17
davedSeveas: what command can i run to find that file in uninstalled packages?05:17
davedon my local system05:17
Seveasdaved, apt-file05:17
davedis there one?05:17
Seveasbut it's not in any package05:17
adwaitalegs: what do u mean confugre a lan for mail?05:17
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ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'ac_nonexistent.h' returned no results.05:18
davedSeveas: hmm.. gimp 2.3.4 source is looking for it05:18
alegsadwait: for use mail between compputer of lan05:18
Seveasdaved, apt-get build-dep gimp (that drags in all build dependencies)05:18
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Mercutio150hey can anyone help me with bit torrent?05:19
davedSeveas: cool, thanks05:19
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davedSeveas: hopefully this will work even for the new version05:19
liffhi, i'm trying to install sysprof on breezy but it says it needs libiberty, which is nowhere to be found05:19
davedi'm fresh off a fedora install, so i'm still trying to translate my package manager knowledge :)(05:19
Ghoatcan breezy be downloaded and installed with synaptic?05:20
gleesondI just installed ubuntu and I was wondering what the command was to update. is there something like yum for fedora. also I didn't set a root password, and now that I'm on the machine I cant gain root privleges for anything05:20
gleesondi.e. my nfts partition05:20
adwaitGhoat: ur better of running a apt-get dist-upgrade from the command line05:20
davedgleesond: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade05:21
Ghoatadwait:why is apt-get better than synaptic?05:21
davedgleesond: and you should be able to    sudo anything from your user05:21
Seveasgleesond, apt-get05:21
Seveas!tell gleesond about root05:21
adwaitGhoat: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and change all "hoary" to "breezy" and then run apt-get05:21
Seveas!tell gleesond about winfs05:21
Seveas!tell gleesond about ntfs05:21
TiMiDo!tell Ghoat about breezy05:21
davedSeveas: oh, fine, be all efficient with an infobot05:21
adwaitGhoat: because when X is running, sme files don't get upgraded and cause problems.....so you Shitft + Alt +f1 and in console mode kill gdm.......and then run the upgrade05:21
Seveasdaved, s/efficient/lazy/g05:22
daved:)05:22
davedSeveas: looks like that build-dep grabbed everything i needed :) thanks05:22
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CarlFKlivecd - is there a boot param to just load bash (no X) ?05:23
davedthe gimp configure script gives terrible errors... i had to dig into the config.log to find out that .h file was missing... the error it gave me was  cc1 is broken05:23
Ghoathow do I save this chat log?05:23
davedGhoat: transcribe it to pad & paper by hand05:23
adwaithehe05:23
bpfor look in your IRC client for logging05:23
Ghoatdaved:copy and paste, good idea05:24
adwaitGhoat: which client are u using05:24
bpfor copy/paste into a text editor05:24
atripathiGhoat you try learning windows buddy05:24
Ghoatadwait:Hoary?05:24
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GhoatX-chat 2.4.105:24
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adwaitGhoat: umm........no, client as in chatx or konversation etc.05:24
adwait*uuh xchat05:24
DonCDIf you were to install the breezy RC candidate, can you patch to stable in a few days?05:25
adwaitGhoat: well there's a save log to file option somewhere in it.......cant rememver where05:25
Ngyes05:25
NgDonCD: yes05:25
xxtrememplayer help New face failed= maybe the font path is wrong can someone help me please05:25
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Ngrather :)05:25
adwaitDonCD: yes05:25
TrackilizerHey guys.. just wanted to ask, all i have to do to update to the new version of ubuntu is "apt-get upgrade" right?05:25
Ghoatadwait:i'll find it....thanks05:25
bpfone more time: anyone in here using breezy on amd64? wondering if my vmware is going to stop working05:25
adwaitTrackilizer: nope.......u need to change all there references to "hoary" to "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list05:26
DonCDOr would you just wait?05:26
adwaitthen run apt-get dist-upgrade05:26
adwaitbpf: i think i saw something like that on ubuntuforums.org..........try searching05:26
TrackilizerSo, all i have to do is remove "hoary" and write "breezy"?05:26
adwaitTrackilizer: yes05:26
DonCDadwait, or would you just wait?05:26
TrackilizerCool! rather simple05:27
TrackilizerThanks alot.05:27
shawarmadoes any happen to know if there's going to be sent out a press release about Breezy? And if so, is this press release going to be leaked ahead of time so it can be translated and sent to the relevant national newspapers?05:27
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TrackilizerWill do that.05:27
adwaitDonCD: wait for what?05:27
DonCDadwait, wait for stable?05:27
adwaitnaah......its goopd enough05:27
adwaitthey aren't about to make any major changes in 2 days!05:27
adwaitTrackilizer: uuh........run apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade05:28
adwait(just to be clear)05:28
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joe_alfi'm trying to remove ntpdate from starting from boot. so i 'sudo update-rc.d -f /etc/init.d/ntpdate' then reboot but it still start on boot. is this a bug or what. any idea how to solve this.05:28
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adwaitjoe_alf: that's wierd......i tried that command and worked fune05:29
joe_alfadwait, doesn't work for me i'm using ubuntu 5.10 breezy05:29
Ghoatunder Window menu, last item Save Text....good05:29
yapycckyhello everyone, who can give me some advise ti make my ubuntu faster?05:30
xxtremeany mplayer people here, i need your help05:30
yapycckyi dunno why but its really slower than win...05:30
adwaitjoe_alf: i am using the same too........anyway if u really want to stop the update, just open the file /etc/init.d/ntpdate and erase everything in it05:30
adwaitjoe_alf: just be sure to back it up, just in case05:31
gigaclonyapyccky, how much swap space did you give ubuntu05:31
yapycckythat's good question... i dont remember05:31
joe_alfadwait, i'm just going to rename thanks anyway05:31
adwaityapyccky: what r ur system specs?05:31
adwaitjoe_alf: np05:31
yapycckyadwait : asus laptop p4 3.2 ht05:32
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adwaityapyccky: u could try a light weight desktop environment , like xfce or icewm05:32
adwaitbut it shouldnt really run slow considering ur configuration05:32
yapycckyadwait: it does.. and i dunno why05:33
yapycckyadwait : can it be cause of kernel version? i386 instead of 686 smp?05:33
atripathiit depends but Gnome is pretty good too. My P4 3.0 GHz HT is running fine05:33
atripathiI am running Hoary05:33
yapycckyim running Breezy05:34
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yapycckyi've installed prelink to open programs faster05:34
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delaneyfound something in synaptic the other day that allowed me to place an xmms control applet in my gnome panel.. and after a reinstall i cant find it.  anyone remember the package name?05:35
zeroversei've got an amd 64 3000.  would i notice a significant speed difference if i actually used the 64 bit version instead?05:36
atripathifire synaptic and search for xmms. You will get it :)05:36
yapycckygigaclon :my swap is 104391 blocks05:36
yapycckyshould i make it bigger?05:37
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Lord_Maynothhow many more days till breezy?05:37
alegshi, i was trying to configure fuse-2.4 but not work configure, the reason is: checking kernel source directory... Not found05:38
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gigaclonyapyccky, how big is each block?05:38
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alegsi was download kernel source in /usr/src05:38
yapycckygigaclon ...dunno..tell me how can i check size of my swap.. please :)05:39
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TrackilizerWould anyone mind giving me a link to the new sources.list file?05:39
Ross__lo all05:39
gohHi, my printer can print, but it prints incorrectly. All pages are printed to only to stamp size, instead of A4. Can any1 help?05:39
Ross__can any one help me with setting up a new monitor in ubuntu05:39
Ross__need to set the resolution but the one i want is not in the list05:40
Ross__?05:40
mustard5!tell Trackilizer about repos05:40
TrackilizerThanks dude.05:40
yapycckygigaclon : i found out .. i've 102mb of swap05:41
gigaclonyapyccky, I would expand it that is prolly your problem05:41
yapycckyic05:41
yapycckyhow can i do it now?05:41
yapycckyshould i reinstall ubuntu??05:41
mustard5!tell Ross__  about resolution05:41
TrackilizerSo, has anyone update thier system to the new version yet?05:41
TrackilizerHow did it go?05:42
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adwaitTrackilizer: went fine......just in case u run into any problems, kill gdm and run apt-get install -f05:43
adwaitand then again apt-get dist-upgrade to pick up from where it left off05:43
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TrackilizerOMG!! so, i souldn't do apt-get upgrade?05:43
TrackilizerI sould do apt-get dist-upgrade?05:43
adwaitapt-get dist-upgrade05:43
adwaityes05:44
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Ross__any 1 know what i can do bout fixing my screen resolution?05:44
adwaitRoss__: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf05:45
adwaitRoss__: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver05:45
Ross__ta05:45
adwaitRoss__: the second one.......first one was a typo05:45
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wftlRoss_ : good question, perhaps somebody can tell me how to get a decent resolution with the Live CD.  All I seem to be able to get (on either my notebood or desktop test system) is 640x480.05:45
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adwaitwftl: sounds like ur drivers arent included......ull just hv to install them later, if u decide to install ubuntu05:46
mustard5!resolution05:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:46
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Ross__says that package isnt installed?05:47
Ross__should i install it?05:47
adwaitRoss__: what's not installed xort-xserver? not possible......check the spelling05:48
adwait*xorg-xserver05:48
Ross__typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xort-xserver05:49
Ross__says xort-xserver is not installed05:50
Ross__oh05:50
Ross__k05:50
Ross__=)05:50
Ross__same thing?05:50
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mustard5Ross, yes05:51
mustard5with xorg05:51
mustard5not xort05:51
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wftlubotu : I appreciate the link, but I was looking for something boot time for the Live CD, not an install Ubuntu. I want to show it off to people, but every time I try it, I get 640x480.05:52
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, wftl05:52
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Ross__didnt work with xorg-xserver05:53
wftlJust as a comparison, I can pass the screen resolution I want to a Knoppix disk when I boot.  There doesn't seem to be anything like that for the Ubuntu Live CD.05:54
Ross__says its not installed=)05:54
bpfdamn, I'm running hoary on amd64 and there was an update today for mozilla-thunderbird. after installing it, I get no gui on my mail app - yet the process is running05:54
Ross__promise, checked it properly05:54
bpfmaybe I'll just dist-upgrade to breezy and try it out05:54
wftlPreferences, Screen Resolution only gives me 640x480 as a choice .05:55
bpftry upping your refresh rates on the max end05:56
Ross__that might be a driver issue05:56
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bpfis there more than one section in xorg.conf?05:57
wftlAh, ubotu is only a bot.05:57
bpfand which one is set as default?05:57
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sambagirlhow do you make beep media player work?05:57
sambagirlit does not output sound for me.05:57
sambagirlhow do you change screen resolution?05:58
bpfunder preferences05:58
Seveassambagirl: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound05:58
sambagirlthank you05:59
sambagirlhow do i change my screen resolution?05:59
bpfunder system -> preferences05:59
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sambagirli'll look things over closely before i ask these questions but the sound things is different. thank you both.06:00
Ross__is there another way to edit you screen res than configuring xorg-xserver?06:00
Ross__i tried to change an entry in the registry thing06:00
Ross__but that didnt do anything06:00
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bpfRoss__, look in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:01
bpfthere should be a section for each of your available resolutions06:01
CuriousCatwas anyone here successful in setting up an agere ac97 modem on ubuntu?06:01
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Equiyathe installation cd... do i HAVE to be in windows to install, or can I do so from booting?06:02
Ross__ok06:02
bpfEquiya, you should boot to it06:02
BelutzEquiya, you must boot from the CD06:02
Ross__oh cool06:02
Equiyaand then i can install it fully?06:02
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Ross__so if i change that will it work?06:02
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bpfRoss__, when you view the system -> preferences -> screen resolution do you have the same number of options that are in the conf file?06:03
CuriousCatEquiya: you're using the live CD right? I don't think you can install from that version. You need the Ubuntu installer itself.06:03
Ross__no06:03
Ross__in the file it only gives my 1152X76806:03
Equiyaif i get the installer itself, do i have to use it within windows?06:04
Ross__in the other thing i get 1024X768 and 800X600 aswell06:04
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Equiyai don't have either yet btw06:04
Spudchathi everyone06:04
bpfCuriousCat, did you assume that or did Equiya say which cd he/she has?06:04
TiMiDohi Spudchat06:04
Spudchatso whats gonna happen in two days? breezy packages will be put into the repositories and hell upgrade himself to it?06:04
CuriousCatbpf: He mentioned it on the #ubuntu-unreg before he finally got into this channel. :)06:05
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dansydohowto for installing fc4 with multiple drives and multiple os's?06:05
bpfRoss__, I had to change my Sync and refresh rates to include a higher top end range, otherwise some of my display resolutions did not appear in the gui tool06:05
bpfCuriousCat, thanks, i was confused how you knew that :)06:05
Equiyathe main problem is that my 30 days of windows activation time are up06:05
smi|e!limewire06:05
ubotusmi|e: Bugger all, i dunno06:05
Equiyai can't activate though06:06
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Equiyaand there's stuff i need to get off06:06
Ross__bpf, it only gives me the option of 55 in the refresh rate drop down06:06
brlancerWINE put stuff under ~/.wine/drive_c ~/.wine/dosdevices - were those just compile time defaults from the ubuntu build?06:06
Ross__must i change it some where else06:06
Equiyai can't activate because i've done it too many times or something06:06
gigaclonif you have the Installtion CD, you can install Ubuntu06:06
bpfRoss__, look for Section "Monitor" in xorg.conf. you will have HorizSync and VertRefresh rates06:07
Ross__ahh06:07
Ross__ok06:07
bpfthey are a range, and mine did not go high enough06:07
Protequewhere is that place for pasting?06:07
CuriousCatEquiya: Do you still need Windows or do you want to completely get rid of it?06:07
[LethAL] !paste06:07
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:07
gigaclonEquiya, if you install Ubuntu to another partition, you can get access the file thru ubuntu06:07
Equiyai only need windows for a while, as there are files of very important work i need from it06:07
Equiyaonce i have those, i don't care06:07
Ross__bpf, its set to 28-57 for HoriSync and 43-60 VertRefresh, thats should be ok for my monitor?06:07
Protequethanx06:08
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gigaclonEquiya, do you have another partition on your hard drive?06:08
Equiyaahh good06:08
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BergcubeQuestion:  The D-Link wireless NICs for laptops (for example DWL-G650) look promising.  (And perform very well under the Redmond alternative OS).  Has anyone tried them under Ubuntu?06:08
ProtequeI have a problem with k3b. cant get it to burn. the debug gives me this output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299106:08
Equiyaactually... no i don't06:08
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bpfRoss__, what kind of monitor do you use? I changed the top end on my ranges to 81 and 76 respectively06:08
CuriousCatEquiya: Ok. Create a partition using your Windows OS or some other 3rd party tool like Partition Magic. Then install ubuntu to that partition. :)06:09
Ross__bpf, could i not just change the res in the file?06:09
bpfi'm using a 19" dell LCD (dual actually, but that's irrelevant)06:09
Spudchatallright i guess ill find out in a couple days :)06:09
Spudchatlates everyone06:09
Equiyaand i can do all this without booting to windows first?06:09
luiteBergcube: the dwl-g650 is based on an atheros chipset, should work fine with the madwifi driver06:09
Ross__the depth 24 one ?06:09
bpfRoss__, is there a line for Modes? with different resolutions on it?06:09
brennerRoss__: missed the start, but are you having res problems?06:09
Ross__ja06:09
Ross__yes i mean06:09
Ross__can i just edit that ?06:10
gigaclonif you need to get files off you can also use the Live CD, Equiya06:10
bpfi have section "screen" then subsection "display" contains this line:06:10
Bergcubeluite~  Sounds great.  I'm glad to hear that.  Thanks.  ( And boy am I looking forward to the new release.... )  :-)06:10
coobraRoss__: swede06:10
Ross__cept its read only?06:10
bpfModes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"06:10
Ross__no, south african06:10
Equiyacan i?06:10
coobra:P06:10
coobraok06:10
Ross__afrikaans06:10
bpfRoss__, you need to use sudo to edit that file06:10
Ross__=)06:10
Ross__ok06:10
Equiyai have a live cd of another linux distribution... and i can't get my files with that06:11
bpfsudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:11
Ross__using sudo vim ok?06:11
brennerRoss__: OT: cricket fan?06:11
Equiyaunless i'm missing something06:11
bpfyep06:11
CuriousCatEquiya: You'll have to boot up windows first. Then create the partition. Unless you have a 3rd party tool that avoids deleting windows, and is able to create a partition without booting up windows.06:11
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Equiyai see06:11
Equiyaas long as i don't have to log on to any accounts it'd be fine06:11
bpfthe tension is building here - just did apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy on my amd64 workstation06:11
Equiyaas thats an impossibility06:12
bpf2 hours to get the packages :(06:12
Ross__how do i save in vim =)06:12
bpf:w06:12
bpfcolon w06:12
Ross__cool06:12
Ross__thanks06:12
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bpffor write06:12
Ross__must i reboot now?06:12
bpfq for quit06:12
gigaclonEquiya, you can use a live CD from another distro,06:12
bpfnomed, but you need to restart X06:12
bpfctrl-alt-backspace should do it06:12
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CuriousCathas anyone here been successful in setting up an agere ac97 modem on ubuntu?06:13
Equiyahowever, if i can use the live cd to get my files, i shall use that, and then, install with the installation disk completely deleting windows, would that work?06:13
bpfs/nomed/no :)06:13
gigaclonthat would work06:13
CuriousCatequiya: you should be able to.06:13
Equiyaahh excellent06:13
Equiyaguys, i appreciate your help06:13
Ross__hmm06:14
Equiyathank you06:14
bpfRoss__, that will also kill xchat, so you will have to come back in here06:14
Ross__now i only have 800x600 and 1024x768 =)06:14
bpfand any other gui apps running06:14
Ross__chatting on a windows machine =)06:14
bpfaha06:14
bpfwhat did you change?06:14
Ross__no06:14
Ross__in that i file i chaged 1152x768 to 1024x102406:15
Ross__in the depth 24 entry06:15
Ross__if any of that makes sense ?06:15
brennerno such res as 1024x1024 afaik06:15
bpfwhat resolution are you trying to get?06:16
bpfand what type of monitor are you using?06:16
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Ross__1280x102406:16
Ross__sorry06:16
lucaashmm, when apt-get update'ing i get: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch06:16
Ross__typo06:16
brennerjust point him to the wiki06:16
Ross__its a flat pannel thing06:17
Ross__thats it native06:17
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bpfwhat options are on the "Modes" line?06:17
Ross__looks blurry at the mo =06:17
Ross__"1280x1024" "800x600"06:17
Ross__and above that it says depth 2406:18
bpffirst, you should check the max resolution of your hardware06:18
Ross__its native resoultion is 1280x102406:18
Ross__just got it=)06:18
brennerRoss__: then your rates are wrong06:18
Ross__works on windows box06:18
brenner!fixres06:19
ubotuwell, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:19
brennergo there. there's a command to automatially get your rates06:19
bpfnice work brenner06:19
brennerif that doesn't work, you'll need to google06:19
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Ross__thanks for the help =)06:19
Ross__will look at the web link06:19
bythewayis bidwell down?06:20
brennerbpf: i told you to point him there earlier. ;)06:20
bythewayoops, wrong channel, sorry06:20
bpfi wasn't aware of that page06:21
brennerbpf: heh. you seemed to know your stuff anyway.06:21
wezzerquestion for you: how do I install dbus-sharp to hoary?06:22
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wezzerthere is no such package in repositories06:22
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bpfthx06:23
apoZ`Hi, I enabled MP3 but still can't play MP3's.... help please06:23
brennerapoZ`: define enabled06:24
Ross__thanks06:24
brennerRoss__: worked?06:24
Ross__on the right track with the dpkg thing06:25
Ross__just had to copy some file across =)06:25
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apoZ`brenner, explain ??06:25
Ross__got it now06:25
brennerapoZ`: how'd you enable it?06:25
brennerand what player are you trying?06:25
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apoZ`Using the apt-get command06:27
dbug2 days to the final release out ?06:27
apoZ`Rhytmbox, XMMS , Nuime06:27
ompauldbug, if the 13th is two days away :)06:27
dbug:)06:28
apoZ`sudo apt-get install k3b-mp306:28
brennerapoZ`: xmms should work (if it's freezing, change the output plugin to esound or alsa) ...rythmbox requires a codec, not sure about nuime06:28
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brennerapoZ`: not sure why you're installing that package for....you need gstreamer0.8-mad for rythmbox06:29
bpfbrenner, any chance you are using an amd64?06:29
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brennerbpf: not much, no06:29
spiralhi06:29
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bpfi'm taking the leap and upgrading now from hoary06:29
brennerbpf: there's usually a few of you in here though06:29
brennerbpf: i heard..have fun :)06:30
bpfthx, hoping it will be smooth sailing :)06:30
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brennerbpf: should be....getting really close now06:30
dansydohow do i update the repository, or is it automatic?06:31
brennerdansydo: either reload in synaptic, or apt-get update06:31
brennerno, afaik, it's not automatic06:31
apoZ`brenner, xmms freezes idd06:31
brennerapoZ`: did you change the output plugin?06:32
dansydoi reloaded, but i don't seem to have a lot of packages06:32
apoZ`yes06:32
brennerit's in preferences06:32
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apoZ`I right-click on a MP3 and say : Open with xmms06:32
brennerdansydo: you can enable universe and multiverse if you so wish06:32
apoZ`xmms opens, but nothing hapens06:32
dansydohow06:33
brennerapoZ`: what did you change the plugin to?06:33
brenner!tell dansydo about repos06:33
darius_I performed a fresh install from CD only on an HP nc6230 last night.  Everythin was running well.  I upgraded all of the packages and now the X server won't start.  This is Breezy.  I get: "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found     Anyone know what this is?06:33
apoZ`fist to esound06:33
apoZ`now to alsa06:33
apoZ`none of both is working06:33
darius_actually, I also get: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found06:34
brennerapoZ`: hmm, at least one of them should work.....tried rythmbox after installing gstreamer0.8-mad?06:34
apoZ`how to insall gstreamer ?06:34
apoZ`synaptic ?06:34
brennerapoZ`: if you want06:35
apoZ`what other option ? :)06:35
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brennerapt-get, aptitude...06:35
brenner:)06:35
apoZ`How to manually download with apt-get ??? General formule ,06:36
gleesondI got my nfts file partition working but now it won't play any of my mp3's :( it says unknown error06:36
apoZ`??06:36
brennerdarius_: tried reconfigging the xorg package?06:36
brennerapoZ`: sudo apt-get install <package>06:36
brennergleesond: using what app?06:36
apoZ`brenner,  tx :) new to ubuntu ... :)06:36
darius_brenner: I'm not much of an X configurer.. any recommendations?06:36
brennerdarius_: back up your xorg.conf file first, then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:37
muepit's easy06:37
apoZ`brenner, nope, still not working... Is it because my files are on a network place ??06:38
gleesondoh, it defaults to totem video player, what player should I use?06:38
brennerdarius_: if you're unsure of anything, default option they suggest is usually ok06:38
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Syrussarg06:38
Syrussevolution is driving me mental06:38
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brennergleesond: up to you really.....but maybe you don't have the mp3 codec for totem06:38
brennerapoZ`: not sure really...you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?06:39
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apoZ`yes06:39
brennerin that case, i'm not sure.....try looking at this page06:40
brenner!mp306:40
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:40
apoZ`I've insterted a normal cd, I hear nothing, yet it is playing06:40
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brennerapoZ`: maybe you have a sound problem06:40
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brenneranyway, gtg, good luck.....try searching ubuntuforums.org or asking again in here06:41
[N] ameapoz you have any sound at all06:41
apoZ`[N] ame,  yes, i hear system sounds06:41
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SarkieCan anyone help me to stop MYsql Error message on shut down, becuase it is trying to use a user that isnt used?06:42
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mirakhhi06:42
mirakthere is a problem with the boot splash and the TV-out of ATI06:43
apoZ`ok, sound working :)06:43
gleesondthanks for the MP3 info06:43
gleesondbbl06:43
mirakthe splash gives an incorrect sync with tvout06:43
[N] ameapoZ`, I had the same problem. Had system sounds but no audio from mp3 or videos06:43
mirakdisabling it fixes the problem06:43
mirakbut well maybe something can be done for splash parameters06:43
mirakboot splash06:43
[N] amebut I got a new hdd from my laptop so I did a reinstall and it all works now06:43
[N] amerofl06:44
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apoZ`[N] ame,  i still can't play MP3's from my network folder, you know why ??06:45
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BreezyInCalifGood day to all06:47
mahangu_good day06:47
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apoZ`Anyone can tell me the basics of programming in ubuntu ??? :) Seems tough question i know06:47
[N] ameapoZ`, can you play it locally?06:48
apoZ`dunno06:48
apoZ`got no mp3 local06:48
BreezyInCalifI have run out of space in my /usr partition and want to non-destructively enlarge it. I have a great deal of extra space in my /home partition. Has anyone here used qtparted to do this? *I haven't done this before* and need to be sure not to destroy data in /home partition, so would like advice about what to do or avoid doing.06:48
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Dunstonkopy one?06:48
apoZ`I'll try right away :)06:49
mahangu_how can i compltely remove a .bin file i installed?06:49
BreezyInCalifAlso, advice about how large to make /usr would be helpful. I'm thinking of bumping it up from its current 2GB to 5GB but would like to only have to worry about all of this once ... if possible :)06:49
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apoZ`Nautilus is freaking :)06:50
rob_pBreezyInCalif:  Back your data up!  If you screw things up, all won't be lost.06:51
BergcubeBreezyInCalif~  I have resized several NTFS partitions with Qtparted.  Worked like a charm every time, and no loss of data.  I always defragged the partitions before.  I cannot say anything about how it'll go on other types of partitions.06:51
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BreezyInCalifrob_p Definitely. I've backed it up to a different partition.06:51
Pickle_Weaselis there any way to fix sound in flash? the fix on the page did not work, and i had it working when i first installed it06:51
Pickle_Weaselbefore a reboot06:51
eckihello06:51
BreezyInCalifBergcube ty06:51
rob_pBreezyInCalif:  Then be brave :-)06:51
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eckidoes anyone know where i can get freenx(nomachine) for breezy ?06:52
Adsumbah, probably wrong channel to ask but could anyone tell me if cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ogre login is the right line to login to sourceforge's cvs? Im _really_ inexperienced with cvs so...06:52
BreezyInCalifI guess my main worry is that the two partitions - the one I want to shrink and the one I want to grow - are not next to each other. (hda10 and hda14 respectively). Is this going to matter?06:52
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erUSULBreezyInCalif: yes06:53
BreezyInCalifDrat.06:53
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mirakthe bootsplash sucks06:54
mirakit's ugly06:54
apoZ`Yes, rhytmbox does plays mp3 local, but not in a network06:54
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BreezyInCaliferUSUL - Could I shrink hda14 and then grow hda13 - then shrink hda13 and grow hda12 - and so on, until I get hda10 to grow to where I want it?06:54
apoZ`[N] ame,   A local MP3 works on rhytmbox, but MP3 on network folder doesn't play06:54
kagen_I don't know why, but it must require rocket scientist brains to install wine06:55
BreezyInCalifSort of a dominoes approach?06:55
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[N] ameapoZ`, could be a permissions issue06:55
Prof_FrinkBreezyInCalif: you can just move all the partitions in between#06:55
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BreezyInCalifProf_Frink - I'm sorry but I don't think I understand06:55
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apoZ`[N] ame, can't be, always worked fine in windows XP06:55
^rob^hi06:55
apoZ`[N] ame,  I've got no permissions in my network06:56
erUSULBreezyInCalif: well it is a risky game to play like that whith partitions but it is up to you. it should work06:56
^rob^ is there any way to make mozilla open with middle button in new tab? - now it opens in new win! ???06:56
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Zhukov_Seveas, are you there?06:56
Zhukov_hi everyone!06:56
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SeveasZhukov_, yes06:57
Zhukov_hi there :)06:57
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[N] ameapoZ`, are the files on a windows or linux server06:58
Zhukov_Seveas, can i download w32codecs package from you server?06:58
Zhukov_im doing an add-on cd for breezy06:58
apoZ`windows server06:58
apoZ`(got to go and eat, bye !!)06:58
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kennethlovecan anyone point me to a guide on installing/running postgresql on ubuntu?07:00
BreezyInCalifProf_Frink - can I msg you and ask you more about moving all the partitions in between the two I want to resize? I'm not clear on it but it sounds more direct than doing it partition by partiion like dominoes07:01
kennethloveor at least tell me where it installs it?07:01
Belutzkennethlove, sudo apt-get install postgresql07:01
kennethloveBelutz: yeah, i got that part. :)07:01
pittikennethlove: just install postgresql-8.0 and follow the instructions in /usr/share/postgresql-common/README.Debian.gz07:01
Pickle_Weaseldoes anyone know how to fix the flash sound bug?07:01
C-Keenre.07:01
Belutzkennethlove, then run it sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql start :D07:01
Pickle_Weaselthe fix on the restricted formats page did not work07:01
pittikennethlove: well, postgresql or postgresql-8.0 depends on whether you run hoary or breezy07:01
pittiBelutz: ^07:01
smi|e!sources07:01
ubotuwell, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)07:01
pittiBelutz: and it starts automatically07:02
Prof_FrinkBreezyInCalif: it's basically the same, I don't know _for sure_, and don't want to be responsible for killing your hd07:02
kennethlovepitti: i'm running breezy. it install 7.407:02
kennethloveBelutz: heh. thanks.07:02
BreezyInCalifI see. Thanks, I appreciate the honesty :)07:02
Zhukov_Seveas, can you help me?07:02
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pittikennethlove: "postgresql" is a transitional package for hoary upgrades07:02
pittikennethlove: if you install from scratch, you should use 8.007:02
BreezyInCalifI don't either ... but I don't know what else to do; is there another option besides resizing /home and /usr?07:02
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kennethlovepitti: ok.07:03
Zeke1hi can anyone help me..my ati-drivers for my x800 were working fine...i did an update and now i get this error when i try run a certain program: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed07:03
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smi|e!sources07:04
ubotufrom memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)07:04
BreezyInCalifAlternatively - does anyone know of a similar support chan or forum for qtparted?07:04
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Zeke1oh i have a 64amd and its a pci-express card07:05
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jrattner12 days07:05
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florian___hi, how to move all files in a directory? mv * says 'cannot stat'07:06
bpfsounds like permissions, try sudo mv ...07:06
florian___its 777...07:07
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sn0nhey all07:07
funkyHattry mv ./*07:07
funkyHatmaybe?07:07
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florian___doesn't work either07:08
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Zeke1hi can anyone help me..my ati-drivers for my x800 were working fine...i did an update and now i get this error when i try run a certain program: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed07:08
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wabbleanyone here who has configured a thinkpad with the ati m6 graphics chip to use an external panel screen? Help! :D07:10
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erUSULflorian___: check permisions in the destination directory07:11
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BreezyInCalifWell ... I'm going to gather up my courage (after reading through qtparted docs again) and give this a shot. Wish me luck! And "thank you" to all here.07:11
wabblegood luck07:12
wabble;)07:12
BreezyInCalifty07:12
BreezyInCalif:)07:12
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SanderDHi. Firefox and Epiphany are currently working very slow here. I'm using Breezy. Is this a common problem?07:13
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[N] ameSanderD, what do you mean by working slow?07:14
SanderDer, "slowly" it is I think :-)07:14
SanderDIt sometimes hangs for some seconds, and doesn't do anything then..07:14
Sarkiecan someone help me to install 1.5?07:15
SarkieJava*07:15
wabbleSanderD: change your dns?07:15
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Phanatichi all07:15
wabblemaybe07:15
C-KeenSarkie: there is an entry with a step-by-step explanation on the ubuntuforums07:15
wabbleSarkie: on breezy or hoary?07:15
Sarkiebreezy07:15
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SanderDwabble: That's only for internet connection trouble, isn't it? It's the program that doesn't do anything. Now it seems to work again though...07:16
wabbleSarkie: well, just go to applications and add applications, search for blackdown java07:16
wabbleor java07:16
Sarkiethats 1.4.2 tho07:16
[N] ameSanderD, it could be net traffic and lag07:16
wabbleSarkie: oh, sorry07:16
Zhukov_Seveas...07:16
[N] ameSarkie, is it a deb package07:16
C-KeenSarkie: for the 1.5 sdk you need to build the debs yourself. it is not very hard though07:16
SanderD[N] ame: Will the program hang because of that? I'd think that only pages would load more slowly, when I've got connection problems.07:17
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Sarkiehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions07:17
wabbleSanderD: ok, well i was thinking if there was a long response time it could be a slow dns07:17
Sarkiethat me then?07:17
C-KeenSarkie: yep07:17
SanderD(Maybe it was just a temporary problem, fixed with a new package)07:17
wabbleSarkie: that works ;)07:17
C-KeenSarkie: I have done so a couple of days ago. Worked for me (tm)07:17
[N] ameSanderD, neither program is know to be lighting fast in metacity.07:17
Phanaticcould somebody help me with a laptop issue? my ibm thinkpad r40e boots only with acpi=off07:17
Sarkiedidnt work this morning07:17
Sarkiemay have been tired07:17
wabbleSanderD: goodie ;)07:17
C-KeenSarkie: oh?07:18
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[N] ameSanderD, how much ram do you have07:18
SarkieI got Note: the build may fail with this error:07:18
SanderD[N] ame: 1024 MB07:18
[N] amewell thats more than enough07:18
SanderDIt seems to work now, so maybe it was just a starting problem or something like that...07:18
[N] ameive found both are rather slow07:19
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[N] amefirefox for windows sadly seems faster07:19
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SanderDyup07:19
XTR-II:(07:20
Sarkiedo i need rpm.bin or .bin?07:20
SanderDI'll just have to live with it then, or maybe use Fluxbox or something..07:20
wabblebin07:20
Sarkierpm is red hat?07:20
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[N] ameid like to get openbox going in breezy07:20
[N] ameit smokes metacity07:20
[N] ameand gives the system an over all faster feel07:20
SarkieChanges to java-package files07:21
SarkieSkip this step if you're running Ubuntu Hoary.07:21
misterdiffhi all. i've got an amd x2 3800+ processor and am having trouble installing ubuntu on it07:21
Sarkiesame for breezy ??07:21
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misterdiffi've tried to install but in the part where it gets to pick out the proper kernel it gives me an error that says and can't find a suitable kernel for the processor07:22
[N] ameSarkie, yes redhat package manager07:22
Sarkie[N] ame, what about this crap? Change to the directory /usr/share/java-package/.07:22
[N] ame8)07:22
SarkieLook in the file sun-j2sdk.sh for the part with:07:22
misterdiffi can't even boot with a live distro07:22
[N] amehuh07:22
Sarkiemisterdiff, can you boot windows?07:22
misterdiffi've tried i386, and amd 6407:23
misterdiffSarkie: yeah i can boot to windows07:23
C-KeenSarkie: yes same for breezy07:23
Sarkiethanx C-Keen07:23
wabblemisterdiff: you got two 3800+?07:23
misterdiffwabble: yeha07:23
misterdiffyeah07:23
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misterdiffnoooo07:23
misterdiffwait, sorry misread that last07:23
wabblemisterdiff: isnt that when you are supposed to use the smp kernels? Not sure07:24
misterdiffi've got one amd x2 3800+07:24
[N] amewabble, no he has a dual core 3800+07:24
Sarkiex2?07:24
wabbleah, ok07:24
[N] ameessentially 2 processors on 107:24
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juliux_hi07:24
[N] ameok need more coffee07:24
wabbleme too07:25
misterdiffi'm getting tired of running my sys on windows and i need a change07:25
juliux_i have upgraded from hoary to breezy but know i can't install a newer libnspr407:25
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Zeke1hi can anybody help me my ati drivers were working i did an update and now they are not?07:25
wabblemisterdiff: i did a complete change on my systems some months ago, has worked out great07:25
misterdiffwabble: thats great07:26
misterdiffwabble: what change :)07:26
SarkieI still get07:26
Sarkiesarkie@Dave-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "Sarkie" --email "Sarkie@Sarkie.com" jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin07:26
SarkieCreating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXDGWREk07:26
SarkieLoading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh07:26
SarkieNo matching plugin was found.07:26
SarkieRemoving temporary directory: done07:26
Zhukov_who wants to install java?07:26
Zhukov_i can help you07:26
smi|eme07:26
Zeke1i need my ATI drivers to work again07:26
wabblemisterdiff: from xp to ubuntu on all machines, i was tired of pressing yes and ok, activating and verifying all the time. All that ms bs07:26
smi|eZhukov_ help me07:27
Zhukov_smi|e, www.jpoa.ecwhost.com07:27
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smi|ety07:27
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SarkieZhukov_, me07:27
misterdiffwabble: ah yes, that. i've done that to all of my systems except this one which i just bought not even a week ago07:27
Zhukov_Sarkie, www.jpoa.ecwhost.com07:27
Zhukov_download DEIUCbuntu COlony 107:27
Sarkielooking07:27
Zeke1anybody know hot to get these to work after an update07:27
wabblemisterdiff: i'm sorry i dont know anything about the dual cores, have you tried a boot from knoppix to see if that works?07:28
misterdiffwabble: no. i'm affraid i'll just keep wasting cds. i've already wasted 5 trying to get a live distro to work. don't wanna keep that up you know07:29
Zhukov_looks like Seveas is in a bad mood today... :(07:29
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Zeke1where can you set a different place to retireve files for apt-get update07:29
wabblemisterdiff: well, best advise i can give is a post on the ubuntuforums07:29
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wabblebrb07:30
misterdiffwabble: thanks07:30
Zeke1where are the sources files situated07:30
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WinZAnybody knows how to edit mp3-tags of a lot of mp3-files?07:30
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Zeke1where can i set the sources?07:31
PlanarPlatypusWinZ, depends what you want to do with them, are you just trying to make them correct or is this a case of the ripping program made a snafu07:32
runedudehey all07:32
C-KeenZeke1: either by editing /etc/apt/sources.list or by using apt-config or by using the synaptic package manager07:32
C-Keenthe latter is the most convenient for most people07:32
runedudeanyone know anything about setting up PTR records for ipv6 reverse dns w/ named?07:32
PlanarPlatypusWinZ, short form of that being "yes, what are you trying to do?"07:32
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C-KeenZeke1: sorry I misread the question07:33
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wabbleWinZ: EasyTAG?07:33
ccfielhello ppl07:33
ccfielwhere is the log file of printer errors?07:33
WinZPlanarPlatypus, I want to delete all tags from all mp3-files, because of crashing my player with German language tags07:34
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Zeke1C-Keen, i have a problem with my ati drivers can you help?07:34
cazzamCan someone please help me install Java Runtime Environment?07:34
ccfielcazzam use synaptic07:35
WinZPlanarPlatypus, beep-media-player is crashing when it's trying to show such mp3-files07:35
tarzeauplease can join me playing http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ?07:35
ccfielwhere is the log file of printer? please help07:35
C-KeenZeke1: sure, what are you trying to do?07:35
Zeke1C-Keen, well they were working fine...but i did an update and now the Mesa drivers are back...also when i try run a certain program i get this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed07:36
PlanarPlatypusWinZ, "easytag" might be what you are after07:36
C-KeenZeke1: did you install those drivers manually?07:36
florian___has anyone of you experienced the problem that the machine gets slower the longer eclipse is running?07:37
C-KeenZeke1: that is from source?07:37
C-Keen"source"07:37
WinZPlanarPlatypus, thanks a lot!07:37
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C-Keenflorian___: that would be a feature *ducks*07:37
cazzamThis system is really annoying...The "Add Applications" does not list it, and if I download it and attempt to use the apt-get command it wont do anything07:37
florian___when i force eclipse to quit then i get an JVM error07:37
Zeke1C-Keen,  well i did an apt-get install for the ati drivers07:38
C-Keencazzam: use the "advanced mode" and it will get listed07:38
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C-KeenZeke1: so the drivers are still in place. maybe the xorg.conf has changed?07:38
primoturboWhat do I need to install to get the convert command?07:38
wabbleany suggestions on addictive fun games when traveling?07:38
Zeke1C-Keen,  i thought so too but it looks fine to me???07:39
primoturboI'm trying to convert an image file07:39
primoturboconvert -resize 640x480 -colors 14 wallpaper.png splashimage.xpm && gzip splashimage.xpm07:39
florian___primoturbo, imagemagick07:39
primoturbobut I have no convert command07:39
Sarkieinstalled?07:39
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C-KeenZeke1: is the ati driver loaded? have a look at your xorg logfile07:39
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primoturboimagemagick will give me this command?07:39
C-Keenprimoturbo: yes07:39
primoturboalright, thnx07:39
mbirkishi... can someone tell me if there is issues with running a sata disk, and then adding a ide disk??07:39
Dalkushow can I make a tar archive (tar cvzf) but omitting a directory named 'music'07:39
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cazzamI hope learning this OS and all these commands will be worth it07:40
apoZ`Does anyone where apt-get store the install files ?07:40
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Zeke1C-Keen, where is that07:40
wabblembirkis: in what way? On hoary i had some problems with speed07:40
apoZ`cazzam,  me 2, new too ?07:40
PlanarPlatypusmbirkis, shouldn't be but it depends on exactly what you are doing, if it is just a data disk then it should be fine07:40
apoZ`Does anyone where apt-get store the install files ?07:40
wabblembirkis: but lazy me installed breezy and it worked out07:40
C-KeenZeke1: usually in /var/log/07:40
primoturboAlso one more question is there anyway to speed up ubuntu/gnome the desktop feels a little slugish anything I can disable?07:41
PlanarPlatypusapoZ`, /var/cache/apt/archives iirc07:41
cazzamapoZ` Yea, and so far I am getting nothing from it but irritation07:41
mbirkisPlanarPlatypus: i can't find the disk... it should be slave on primary ide controller... is there a command to know if it works??07:41
Zeke1C-Keen,  ok what will it say im looking in Xorg.0.log07:41
apoZ`cazzam, me 2 :)07:42
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Zeke1C-Keen,  can i give you an output in a pvt message?07:42
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C-KeenZeke1: yes go ahead07:42
wabblecazzam: it is07:42
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C-KeenZeke1: it should be something like LoadModule: "Ati ....."07:43
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C-KeenZeke1: with no error following07:43
kennethlovesorry, have another postregesql question. i have it running, but what's the password for the postres user?07:43
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darius_kennethlove: there is no default password07:43
C-Keenkennethlove: there's none as the postgres user is never supposed to login07:43
apoZ`How to open a .deb file ???07:44
kennethloveC-Keen and darius_ : hmm07:44
Sarkiemy sources are knackered07:44
SarkieW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:44
SarkieW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:44
SarkieW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:44
SarkieW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems07:44
SarkieE: Package grubconf has no installation candidate07:44
naliothapoZ`: you dont. debs are to be installed. sudo dpkg -i filename.deb07:44
naliothSarkie: DO NOT paste in here07:44
apoZ`:)07:44
Sarkiesorry07:44
cazzamOk, I have installed every "Java" file listed in the synaptic and I still cannot view any websites that require the plug in.  What is step two?07:44
C-KeenSarkie: yes they are please never ever again paste something that big07:44
florian___will breezy be finally released on thursday ?07:44
naliothubotu: tell cazzam about java07:44
Dalkushow would I delete a file named '-x'  ?07:45
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florian___rm '-f' ? just a guess07:45
HappyFoolDalkus: try 'rm -- -x'07:45
apoZ`very annoying the terminal shuts down so quick07:45
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wabblecazzam: using breezy or hoary?07:46
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Zeke1C-Keen,  ok i pasted it but i dont think thats everything07:46
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Zeke1C-Keen,  when i run fglrxinfo i get this: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed07:47
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Zeke1X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)07:47
Zeke1  Major opcode of failed request:  144 (GLX)07:47
Zeke1  Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)07:47
Zeke1  Serial number of failed request:  3907:47
apoZ`Question, I need to install a driver for a printer, I made a terminal and did it. What now ? Where is the PDD file ??07:47
antixwhat version of mysql-server is present in breezy?07:47
Phiniteis there  agood howto for installing/configuring cvs on hoary?07:47
cazzamI dont know, how do I find out?07:47
naliothantix: whichever one you install. see packagss.ubuntu.com07:47
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Zhukov_packages.ubuntu.org/<packagename>07:47
antixok thanks07:48
naliothubotu: tell cazzam about java07:48
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Dalkusthanks HappyFool worked a charm. :)07:48
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wabbleantix: 4.0.24-1007:48
Phiniteubotu: tell Phinite about cvs07:48
apoZ`Repeat : Question, I need to install a driver for a printer, I made a terminal and did it. What now ? Where is the PDD file ??07:48
Syrragood afternoon, evening, morning, night and so forth07:48
antixwabble, hm I want 4.1....07:48
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wabbleanti-net_: its there also07:49
apoZ`nalioth, I made a terminal to install the driver, I got a .deb file, now i installed the .deb with your command07:49
wabblemultiverse package(?) i think07:49
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apoZ`nalioth, what now ?07:49
MadeyeAudio codec 'MPEG 2 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies07:49
Madeyeany idea?07:49
ksmurfsorry for the noobish question but I seemed to have lost the ability to switch between open windows with ALTTAB and window focus by clicking on it.... any ideas?07:49
antixwabble, ok07:50
TrackilizerJust wanted to ask, why is "sudo" better than "su"?07:50
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HappyFool!tell Trackilizer about root07:50
ksmurfTrack .... sudo expires su does not07:50
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lorenzodTrackilizer, not better: different07:50
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HappyFoolTrackilizer: read that wiki page; probably covers most of the pros/cons07:50
TrackilizerThanks for that.07:50
comforteagleafter installing apache2 & php4... if i install php4-mysql shouldnt' the mysql extention work???07:51
stianhHello everyone. Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble to access the ubuntu website and (norwegian) apt archive?07:51
comforteaglemy php.ini file continues to read "--without-mysql"07:51
wabbleI have a thinkpad x31 with the ati m6 graphics chip, anyone want to help me configure external display on it?07:51
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clinfixwhere can I find  java 5.0 ?07:51
ksmurfclinfix Suns website07:51
Syrrawhere can I find a good mud client?07:51
wabbleclinfix: www.sun.com07:51
apoZ`Help please...07:52
naliothclinfix: wiki.ubuntu.com//java07:52
ksmurfsorry for the noobish question but I seemed to have lost the ability to switch between open windows with ALTTAB and window focus by clicking on it.... any ideas?07:52
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naliothapoZ`: if you installed the deb, you are done07:52
cazzamOk, what does "Make the downloaded file executable. At the command line, change to the directory where you downloaded the file, and type07:52
cazzam" mean07:52
antixdoes vhcs work with breezy?07:52
apoZ`nalioth,  I'm able to print now ?07:52
naliothapoZ`: idk what you were installing07:52
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N6REJ<---- is ready to pull his hair out!!! :~07:53
apoZ`nalioth, I was installing a driver for a printer, first I made a terminal for the driver, then did the terminal, then the .deb file came in cache/apt, then I installed the .deb file07:53
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N6REJ:S07:53
Syrra*is generally annoying*07:53
HappyFoolcazzam: what file is it?07:53
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naliothapoZ`: i havent owned a printer in years and years, i'm not much on printing help07:54
N6REJnalioth: HELP!!!!!!!!  mail is driving me insane!! I've been working on it since 0300!!07:54
HappyFoolSyrra: tried 'apt-cache search mud' ? or the search in synaptic?07:54
cazzamIt is Java, "jre-1_5_0_05-Linux-i586.bin07:54
TiMiDo!javadeb07:54
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java07:54
apoZ`Ok tespage worked :D finally programmed my first shit :D07:54
naliothN6REJ: need a strait-jacket?07:54
TiMiDothere's you're anwer cazzam07:55
cazzamOk I did that and I downloaded the file07:55
SyrraI did, they aren't very good. I tried Gnome mud and Papaya so far, the other ones are generally something I don't want/need in a client07:55
HappyFoolcazzam: you can use the debs TiMiDo just pointed to; let me know if you want to continue with the .bin07:55
apoZ`Does anyone had GMAIL and has configured his Evolution properly ?07:55
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Syrrapayaya needs logging, and gnome mud needs to be updated a bit07:55
naliothcazzam: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i YOURFILENAME.deb07:55
cazzamIts not a .deb file07:55
cazzamIts Bin07:56
TiMiDoread the link07:56
TiMiDoand the instructions07:56
cazzamAlso, I have no idea if I am on Breezy or Hoary07:56
magnusthecazzsam, try making it executable and then run it... if you dare07:56
wabblei think he needs the fakeroot package07:56
HappyFoolcazzam: 'lsb_release -a' will tell you07:56
naliothcazzam: open your terminal and type "cat /etc/issue"07:56
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replay`-hi07:56
TiMiDoreplay`- hello07:56
replay`-does somebody use the rc1 ?07:57
apoZ`Repeat : Does anyone has GMAIL and has configured his Evolution properly ?07:57
cazzamOk its Breezy So I will try the link for it07:57
rob_papoZ`:  Yes.07:57
TrackilizerI know everyone here knows this anyways but Ubnutu is simply amazing, everything that never seemed to work with other distros simply works with Ubuntu.07:57
SyrraDo you want me to try right now apoZ?07:57
TrackilizerIt's the future of desktop-linux.07:57
SyrraI have gmail, but I don't use the clients, I will try mine for you if you llike07:57
sorush20guys can somone help I can' t see the project window.. and I don't know how to make it appear.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299407:57
N6REJnalioth: just about!!   My bottle of rum is AWFUL close to me... I'm not supposed to have it very often, but I've already had one glass today!!!  I've got postfix I THINK all setup, but I can't get mail.. .no smtp server.... fine, so I install "HULA" it uninstalls postfix, fine, but still no mail, so then I uninstall hula and it UNINSTALLS MYSQL-SERVER!  EEEEEK... so I reinstall Mysql-server...07:57
N6REJ...and IT reinstall's postfix!!  ok fine, I'll try courier!, ok,  great, but IT is fighting with postfix and says I can't get mail because I don't have maildir!!!,  FINE!!! I uninstall courier, and IT TAKES MYSQL-SERVER out ALSO!!07:57
naliothapoZ`: please wait 5 minutes b4 repeating the same question. visit wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.com07:57
N6REJwhat do I do??????????07:57
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ksmurfanyone have an Idea how I can Program alt-tab to switch open windows?07:58
naliothN6REJ: take a break. take the dog to the park07:58
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naliothksmurf: i thought it did switch open windows07:58
magnustheksmurf, it doesn't do it by default?07:58
SyrraAlready does it on mine ksmurf07:58
rob_papoZ`:  Did you login to your Gmail account and enable pop access?07:58
ksmurfNo I lost the ability to do it07:59
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bpfthis upgrade is taking forever!!!!!!07:59
ksmurfit no longer works on mine07:59
magnustheksmurf, check your key settings, should be clear where07:59
gnomefreakis there a trick to printing pdf forms? mine is printing | as a letter all the letters are like pipes or lines07:59
N6REJnalioth: wish I could.. can't walk very far :D.... I think your right though.. I'll do something mindless for a few minutes....07:59
Syrraflash games are good for that07:59
naliothN6REJ: watch oprah, or something <EG>07:59
Syrraew oprah07:59
bpfN6REJ, have you done this before? my experience is that even with the right packages you will need to configure your email apps to get things working08:00
N6REJeither way though I'm going to have to find out what smtp server to use for TLS & SMTP-AUTH... why isn't this covered in the docs?08:00
rob_pN6REJ:  Ham?08:00
N6REJbpf: its been forever... and never with debian.08:00
naliothN6REJ: i'm sure you haven't visited ALL the docs available08:00
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N6REJrob_p yep!08:00
bpftry workaround.org. they have a nice howto for debian mail servers08:00
devilshithi08:00
rob_pN6REJ:  Make a few QSOs and come back to it!08:00
Syrrahey08:00
N6REJnalioth: probably not, me and wiki don't get along well.08:00
cazzamOk, when I type sudo dpkg -i YOURFILENAME.deb it tells me the file cannot be found, when I type sudo dpkg -i /home/colin/Desktop/YOURFILENAME.deb  It says there is an error in "exit status 2" I dont understand any of this08:01
devilshitneed help to set up wireless in ubuntu08:01
wabbleN6REJ: use your isp's smtp if you don't know08:01
Syrrais it always like this in here?08:01
Bad_MagicSo... breezy final in 2 days... cant wait to upgrade =x08:01
naliothN6REJ: i was discussing the big wiki08:01
N6REJrob_p: sounds like a good idea08:01
bpfN6REJ, are you using ubuntu as a server? or are you installing mail services on your desktop?08:01
ksmurfI have nothing under window managment for keyboard shortcuts08:01
HappyFoolcazzam: you have to download the .deb file first08:01
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cazzamI did08:01
naliothdevilshit: please change your nick08:01
HappyFoolcazzam: where to ? your desktop?08:01
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cazzamI renamed it file, and where it says YOURFILENAME I replaced it with the name of the file08:01
N6REJbpf: I am using breezy as a server.08:01
bpfdevilshit, what is the problem?08:01
cazzamYes08:01
naliothcazzam: did your prompt return?08:02
N6REJnalioth: which big wiki?  There's more then one?08:02
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puseklattenis it ok now08:02
lastnodenalioth, problems playing .rm files for me mate08:02
naliothN6REJ: <EG> yes. the wiki named google08:02
bpfN6REJ, why? i would think you want a machine without X and all the extra user packages08:02
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cazzamHappyFool it says No such file or directory08:02
N6REJnalioth: lol :P08:02
BreezyInCalifhi room08:02
naliothlastnode: did you install realplayer or variant?08:02
magnustheksmurf, what do you mean, nothing?08:02
Syrrahello08:02
N6REJbpf:I don't have x or any of that on it!  "ubuntu install server please"... OK BOSS DONE!08:03
Syrrais there a secondary channel for unurgent questions?08:03
puseklattencan somebody help me to set up wireless in ubuntu pleas08:03
N6REJpuseklatten: what nic?08:03
TiMiDoSyrra #ubuntu-offtopic08:03
Syrrathanks08:03
puseklattenhehe08:03
bpfN6REJ, I am not a mail server expert, but I will again refer you to www.workaround.org08:03
TiMiDono08:03
TiMiDonp08:03
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ksmurfIn the keyboard shortcuts tab of the admin options WIndow Managment has no shortcuts08:04
HappyFoolcazzam: you said you renamed the file? to what? and where is it now?08:04
N6REJbpf: I'll take a look ty.08:04
coolkevHow do i swtich to Breezy now that the final version is out, I'm currently on Hoary08:04
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BreezyInCalifI'm going to try to use qtparted to *non-destructively* resize my /home partition (shrinking it and moving three other partitions into the resulting free space) so that I can add space to my /usr partition. I've written a brief plan, and because I have *never tried this before* would like a sanity-check before I proceed.08:04
HappyFoolbreezy final is out?08:04
Phinitehas anyone set up a cvs server on an ubunto box?  I need to know how to do this correctly or where to look to learn how.08:04
cazzamHappyFool: It is file.deb and it is on the desktop08:04
TiMiDoHappyFool to more days08:04
BreezyInCalifI thought final was not for a couple of days08:04
TiMiDoon the 13th08:04
magnustheksmurf, do you mean there are no shortcuts set, or that there are no shortcuts to set?08:04
HappyFoolTiMiDo: i thought so08:04
N6REJcoolkev: apt-get update [enter]   apt-get dist-upgrade [enter] 08:04
apoZ`Does anyone know how to play MP3's from a network folder ??? Help please08:04
mojoBreezyInCalif: the word is backup ;-p08:04
ksmurfBoth08:04
HappyFoolcazzam: ok, what does 'ls -l /home/colin/Desktop/file.deb' say?08:04
N6REJrc is out08:05
BreezyInCalifmojo - yes indeedy. Did that.08:05
mojolol k just to be sure.08:05
naliothapoZ`: open a terminal and "man nfs" or ask uncle google about nfs08:05
magnustheksmurf, what window manager are you running?08:05
cazzamHappyFool: -rw-r--r--  1 colin colin 878430 2005-10-11 13:58 /home/colin/Desktop/file.deb08:05
magnustheapoZ` music on a windows share?08:05
N6REJpuseklatten: what nic card are you trying to use?08:05
sorush20is anyone here haveing the same problem with Thunderbird and its web mail extension..08:05
HappyFoolcazzam: 878k ? looks a bit small08:06
shinuanyoen using the latest mplayer? ive got some problems with the time elapsed and toatl time not showing up...08:06
_rawlerPhinite: I would STRONGLY recommend something other than CVS.. look at SVN, for instance..08:06
BreezyInCalifcoolkev - in between update and dist-upgrade, I *think* you should install or reinstall ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop08:06
BreezyInCalifMaybe someone could sanity check that too08:06
ksmurflolnowihavelostspacerofl08:06
puseklatteni got ha siemens v2000 withe a intel wireless220008:06
coolkevi used those two commands08:06
ksmurfdamnkeyboard08:06
N6REJBreezyInCalif: you could be right... sorry.08:06
coolkevand it just checked a bunch of sites and then that's it08:06
HappyFoolcazzam: just a second...08:06
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ksmurfmagnuthegnome08:06
Phinite_rawler, any major reasons?  I have not used subversion before and we have some developers who will be using .NET code and I know there is a cvs plugin for that, but not sure about svn08:06
cazzamHappyFool: the website said I had to download a file to install the other file because its a .torrent08:06
HappyFoolcazzam: um08:07
magnustheksmurf, lol, try to log out and come back in... sounds like you have serious problems08:07
nalioth_rawler: cvs or svn depends on the file provider, right?08:07
BreezyInCalifI had a problem going to breezy and resolved it by re-running the upgrade and making sure to reinstall those two pckgs before dist-upgrade08:07
_rawlerPhinite: TLA, BitKeeper or MonoTone seems to be pretty decent as well, if I recall correctly..08:07
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C-Keenbitkeeper is evil (tm)08:07
clinfixI followed the instructions but j2sdk doesnt exist with hoary08:08
N6REJpuseklatten: does this help you/ http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/08:08
_rawlerPhinite: TortoiseSVN provides excellent SVN-functionality for windows..08:08
clinfixwhere can I find java-package08:08
naliothubotu: tell clinfix about java08:08
_rawlernalioth: huh?08:08
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HappyFoolcazzam: none of those files is smaller than 10 MB08:08
cazzamHappyFool: When I click on the link for Breezy, I get sent to "http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/"08:08
HappyFoolcazzam: try download again08:08
nalioth_rawler: i'm not up on versioning but arent cvs and svn dependent on the file providers?08:08
HappyFoolcazzam: i'm reading that page now08:08
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naliothcazzam: download the torrent for the java you want, and then start your torrent client to get it08:09
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_rawlernalioth, Phinite: SVN is simply a system designed to supersede CVS, and today, I'd definately say SVN beats CVS by far in just about anything..08:09
N6REJpuseklatten: here's one for hoarty... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-13576.html08:09
gnomefreakhow do you change default mail cleint from evo to thunderbird?08:09
ksmurfmagnuthe I have my space back but still no Alt Tab08:09
HappyFooltortoisesvn is cool08:09
apoZ`magnusthe, music on windows share idd08:09
cazzamHappyFool: Which one do I want on that page?08:09
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JedrickHow to install media player as plug-ins on firefox?08:09
puseklatteni use 5.108:09
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magnustheksmurf, check the keyboard settings first, then go on to keyboard shortcuts08:10
_rawlernalioth, Phinite: (if you want you can just look at how many OS-projects that have recently moved their versioning from CVS to SVN)08:10
HappyFoolcazzam: jre1.5 i think08:10
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HappyFoolcazzam: i think that is java 5, though i'm not completely sure08:10
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BreezyInCalifMy planned changes: Take 15GB from /home (/dev/hda14 in my current scheme). Move /tmp, /var, and /usr/local (hda 11, hda12, and hda13) into the free space after current hda14. Move the free space that's left (there will be about 10GB left) so that it's adjacent to /usr (hda10 in current scheme). Add the space to /usr. Edit /etc/fstab to reflect changes. Mount /home and /usr manually to make sure they're OK. Reboot. Go on with li08:10
BreezyInCaliffe.08:10
apoZ`nalioth, what to do after MAN NFS, in terminal ?08:10
BreezyInCaliflife, even.08:10
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BreezyInCalifDoes that make sense?08:10
ksmurfK I have reset my keyboard to defaults.  No Alt Tab08:10
Phiniteok, I'll ask the easy question then... is there a good howto for that?08:10
apoZ`magnusthe, Yes a windows share idd08:10
N6REJpuseklatten: try that anyway... it might work.. let me look some more though08:10
HappyFoolPhinite: what sort of access?08:10
naliothapoZ`: read08:11
magnustheapoZ`, try to mount the windows shares... shouldn't be difficult but it was too long since I did it myself to give you detailed instructions08:11
piegood evening, can I break in with a question?08:11
_rawlerPhinite: Subversion is DEFINATELY a better alternative than CVS.. (and it's excatly what it's designed for)08:11
HappyFoolPhinite: if you have ssh (secure shell) access already setup, it's very easy for either08:11
BreezyInCalifStep zero, of course, was backup08:11
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nalioth_rawler: so advising svn only is good advice to a developer for providing files?08:11
magnustheksmurf, ok, now check the keyboard shortcuts again08:11
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apoZ`magnusthe, i have no idea how to mount windows shares08:11
magnustheksmurf, any chance of setting window-related shortcuts?08:11
_rawlernalioth: noopers.. SVN is a complete replacement for CVS.08:11
Phinitea repository on a central server (also a samba server).  connections from primarily windows machines.  mostly java, some using only .NET08:11
_rawlerPhinite, nalioth: http://subversion.tigris.org/08:11
Knorriepie: don't ask to ask, just ask :)08:12
ekowhat is backports?08:12
cazzamHappyFool: Ok I got that one and double clicked it and not it is downloading the deb file...08:12
ksmurfmagnuthe If I knew how08:12
pieCan somebody tell me how to setup ICQ?08:12
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apoZ`magnusthe, O yes, i remember, i already did that08:12
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N6REJpuseklatten: do you have the latest build?08:12
Bad_Magicpie: just use gaim08:12
Bad_Magic=x08:12
HappyFoolcazzam: didn't gnome-bittorrent start up?08:12
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Ti_Uhlhello, i'm trying to get vlc to work with hoary, but it keeps telling that it can't open /dev/dsp ?08:12
ksmurfno go08:13
KnorrieapoZ`: apt-get install smbfs08:13
marthi, can anyone suggest how to get a more up-to-date version of pdflatex?  the version in breezy is a little elderly :(08:13
pieBad Magic: Sorry?08:13
puseklattenwhat du you mean N6REJ>08:13
KnorrieapoZ`: mount -t smbfs etc...08:13
HappyFoolcazzam: that is, gnome-btdownload08:13
magnustheapoZ`, smbmount or something like it.. I think nautilus can do it for you (not sure)08:13
ksmurfmagnuthe No go.  Still can't set it08:13
pieBad Magic: What is gaim?08:13
Bad_Magicpie: gaim has support for the ICQ protocol (last i checked)08:13
Ti_Uhldoes anyone now how to fix this ? i checked permissions and the user is in the audio group08:13
Bad_Magicpie: it also supports jabber,msn,aim08:13
Knorriepie: gaim is an instant messaging client08:13
magnustheksmurf, hmmm, start a terminal and run 'pgrep -l meta' what's the output?08:13
gnomefreakanyone know how to change default mail client?08:13
pieBad Magic: Where / how do I do..?08:13
ksmurfk08:13
N6REJpuseklatten: I haven't checked lately but they just released the release candiate today... many changes... I don't have the link to them... perhaps nalioth does.08:13
Bad_Magicpie: sudo apt-get install gaim08:13
Bad_Magici believe08:13
naliothN6REJ: see /topic08:14
PhiniteI can ssh into the box easily, I just need a nice how to, and then I have to explain how to get/put code to windows developers08:14
HappyFoolPhinite: well, i mean every client needs ssh08:14
cazzamHappyFool: All I know is I am downloading the .deb file08:14
puseklatteni downloaded the release 5.1 dvd yesterday08:14
pieBad Magic: I will try then, sorry , but all off Ubuntu is very new for me..08:14
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Ti_Uhlhello, i'm trying to get vlc to work with hoary, but it keeps telling that it can't open /dev/dsp ? but the perm are ok and audio works with mplayer and xine ? anyone ?08:15
HappyFoolPhinite: if that isn't setup, and you don't want to, you can use Apache for SVN access instead08:15
PhiniteHappyFool: that shouldn't be a big deal, we have putty.08:15
Bad_Magicpie: no problem, if that doesnt work you probably need to update your repositories listing08:15
pieBad Magic: I got kickt-off by MS all the time, because the key..08:15
N6REJnalioth: CC sorry08:15
rawlerPhinite: look at TortoiseSVN for a starter.. play around with creating local on-disk repositories and try it out..08:15
Dalkushow important is it to defrag a windows  partition before shoving linux on it?08:15
shinuwhere does kde have its trash directory?08:15
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HappyFoolPhinite: ok, then all you need to do is have an account on the server for each developer, and setup the repository like you would for local access08:16
jwd_ls08:16
rawlerPhinite: then, check the Subversion book.. it's and excellent documentation..08:16
magnustheDalkus, no need at all, different file systems08:16
HappyFoolPhinite: if you setup SSH for each dev, you can equally easily provide CVS08:16
martshinu: .local/share/Trash08:16
Dalkusmagnusthe, many thanks08:16
HappyFoolPhinite: yeah, the subversion book gives a pretty good howto for setting up a svn repository08:16
ksmurf7265 metacity08:16
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Phiniteok, looking now08:16
shinumart: thanks08:16
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HappyFoolPhinite: we have a similar setup at work: linux box with SSH serving CVS and SVN to windows clients08:17
magnustheksmurf, good, as expected08:17
magnustheDalkus, my pleasure08:17
pieBad Magic: see you maybe later, thanks!08:17
piebey,bey..08:17
Knorriepie: you can also use synaptic, it's a bit more friendly08:17
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Knorriepie: i mean synaptic instead of apt-get08:17
kraxanyone experienced some initial DNS problems with 5.10?08:17
magnustheksmurf, you are sure you have all necessary packages installed? run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' to make sure08:18
naliothDalkus: it's important to partition regularly08:18
naliothDalkus: er defragment08:18
wabbleI have a thinkpad x31 with the ati m6 graphics chip, anyone want to help me configure external display on it?08:18
pieknorrie: Thanks!08:18
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AnswerHello.  I have a dual-boot harddrive.  I am in ubuntu, and I mounted the windowsxp ntfs partition as /mnt/winxp.   I can read it fine but it's in read only.  can I chmod it or what08:18
x_orI have an ubuntu box with three nics.  One is set to DHCP, the others are set to static IPs, but only the DHCP nic is plugged in.  It has an IP, and I can connect to it.  I cannot get outside of my LAN with this box, however, not via web browser, nor ping, nor ssh.  How do I troubleshoot what is wrong here?08:19
stpereAnswer, ntfs is readonly in linux08:19
zenroxAnswer, no ntfs =read only08:19
lucaaswhats the best command to get the size of a file?08:19
Knorrielucaas: ls -l ?08:19
magnustheDalkus, nalioth, filesystems on Linux don't really need to be defragmented... I've never had more than 2% non-contiguus files on any partition in my 5+ years as a user08:19
AnswerHow do I write to ntfs??  There must be a way!  Why can it only read?08:19
naliothAnswer: to writeto NTFS is to be on your way to a all linux box08:19
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naliothmagnusthe: Dalkus was asking about his windows drive08:19
Answernalioth, cmon tell me how08:19
DalkusAnswer, its in development. you can't for a few years08:20
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ksmurfmagnuthe It says it's the newest version08:20
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AnswerDalkus, where is it in development?  Why can I read and not write it's the same mechanism08:20
lucaasKnorrie, ah, that worked i didnt think you could ls a file, ty :)08:20
magnusthenalioth, ah sorry.. missed that08:20
DalkusAnswer, use FAT32 if you wanna share a partition between windows and linux08:20
naliothAnswer: writing to NTFS from linux, can destroy the partition container08:20
HappyFoolAnswer: ask ms to release the ntfs specs ;). or google for 'captive-ntfs', which won't work out the box on ubuntu (or so i believe)08:20
magnustheksmurf, hmmm, then I'm at a loss... at least remotely like this08:20
Zhukov_Seveas... Are you there?08:20
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DalkusAnswer, I'm not sure, I saw a sourceforge.net project workking on it. google for "linux ntfs"08:20
Knorrielucaas: yes :) and perhaps you like the `du` command as well08:20
Answerubotu: damn microsoft08:20
ubotuAnswer: Syntax error in line 108:20
ksmurfThanks for the help anyway08:21
TiMiDomicrosoft is a pease of crap08:21
DreamgliderAnswer, you can indeed write to NTFS but it s a pretty bad idea.08:21
magnustheksmurf, sorry I can't help more08:21
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morrolanMicro$haft08:21
emilethere are also commercial solutions to writing ntfs with linux08:21
lucaasKnorrie, the du was more what i was lookoing for :>08:21
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Answeremile: What are such commercial solutions?08:21
Dalkusemile, are they any good?08:21
emileAnswer: i believe paragon makes one08:21
emileDalkus: never tried it08:22
ksmurfI'll get it solved .... I know I can do it givin enough time and installs.....rofl08:22
Zhukov_Damn anyone has Seveas w32codecs package?08:22
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emilebut if you pay for it and it won't work you know where to go ;-)08:22
magnustheKnoppix now supports using a file on NTFS as a writable partition that's merged (unionfs) with the read-only part on the CD08:22
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TiMiDoZhukov_ i think it does08:22
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ksmurfzhukov what's the diff between seaves and anyone elses?08:22
AnswerParagon NTFS for Linux 1.0,  free download!  http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/System_Maintenance_and_Repair_Utilities/Paragon_NTFS_for_Linux.html08:22
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tucozHi, I wonder where to find what changes are made to an updateable package08:22
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magnustheso, there is (limited) support for writing files on NTFS, and it's stable enough for the Knoppix-devs to include it08:22
ksmurfmagnuthe Thanks08:23
Knorrieit's more easy to use a second machine with samba, put your hdd over there and mount the shares in xp and in linux08:23
magnusthewhat I heard the limits are on the number of new files that can be created in a directory08:23
kraxi just installed 5.10 and i can ping websites and all but the only actual site i can get to is ubuntu.com.. so im thinking theres a dns problem.. any ideas on how to resolve this issue?08:23
Dalkusjust use FAT32, it's not so bad08:23
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AnswerDalkus: I don't know how to convert a winxp ntfs drive to fat3208:23
DalkusI have a 'share' partition to keep my files that I want both OS's to access08:24
Dalkusyoud have to use a partitioning program and set it's filesystem to FAT3208:24
Dalkusyou'll have to read up about that08:24
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Answerhehe08:24
Answerthanks everyone08:24
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DreamgliderAnswer, you could download Ultimate Boot CD is has lots of nice tools08:25
AnswerDreamglider: Ultimate Boot CD?  sweet08:25
st_kubuntu-fr08:25
HappyFool*sigh* i break emacs more often on ubuntu than on windows08:25
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DreamgliderAnswer, once you have booted with UBCD press F3 then F1 and youll be able to make the partion change08:27
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wefhow do i check my checksum?08:27
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runedudehorray08:28
magnusthewef, you mean the checksum of the CD?08:28
wefyeah08:28
wefplease08:28
magnusthewef, what OS are you using to check?08:29
wefubuntu08:29
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weflinux08:29
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magnusthewef, hold on a sec08:29
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magnusthewef https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto08:30
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wefthanks08:31
magnusthewef, let me know if it's clear enough... since I wrote the page :)08:31
wefcool thanks08:32
wefy is it SSL08:32
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wefahh08:32
wefvery good thanks08:32
magnusthewef, the link I gave you? hmmm, don't know... that's where I ended up, that's all08:32
wefk thanks08:33
Bad_Magicthey like wasting processor cycles to encrypt non-sensitive information08:33
BreezyInCalifCan I raise this qstn again, pls? I'm planning to resize a couple of partitions because I've run out of space on /usr and want to give it more space. Since that's dangerous, I wanted to sanity-check my plan before running around with scissors <g>08:33
Bad_Magicor, they like to protect your privacy08:33
Bad_Magicpick one08:33
Bad_Magic=P08:33
kbrooksmagnusthe: so you have written a few guides eh =P08:33
BreezyInCalifThe plan: Backup /home. Take 15GB from /home (/dev/hda14 in my current scheme). Move /tmp, /var, and /usr/local (hda 11, hda12, and hda13) into the free space after current hda14. Move the free space that's left (there will be about 10GB left) so that it's adjacent to /usr (hda10 in current scheme). Add the space to /usr. Edit /etc/fstab to reflect changes. Mount /home and /usr manually to make sure they're OK.08:33
BreezyInCalifReboot. Go on with life.08:33
AnswerBreezyInCalif, just buy another harddrive08:33
magnusthekbrooks, it's happened08:33
BreezyInCaliflol08:33
BreezyInCalifThanks.08:33
kbrooksmagnusthe: what has?08:33
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fastlyis it worth waiting for the official release of breezy badger, or will the preview release upgrade gracefully?08:34
Answercost of harddrive << frustration after destroying your partitions08:34
Answerfastly: it will be easy to upgrade.  no need to wait08:34
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naliothfastly: if it aint fixed now, we're in trouble08:34
magnustheBreezyInCalif, sounds reasonable... how are you planning on copy the data?08:34
Answer!upgrade2breezy08:34
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:34
fastly:-)08:34
magnustheBreezyInCalif, BTW moving /tmp isn't really necessary08:34
BreezyInCalifmagnusthe - planning *nondestructive* resize with qtparted. __I hope!___08:34
fastlyi'm currently a gentoo user and love everything about portage except my lack of patience on compile times08:34
apoZ`How to install a driver ???08:34
kbrooksi want to see a gnupg guide on the wiki08:34
magnusthekbrooks, it has happened that I've written a guide08:34
BreezyInCalifReason I'd figured to move /tmp was b/c it's on an adjacent partition to /usr08:35
BreezyInCalifI planned badly.08:35
fastlyubuntu has a package manager which rivals gentoo?08:35
kbrooksanyone written one?08:35
Answerfastly: synaptic08:35
naliothubotu: tell fastly about apt-get08:35
Answer!synaptic08:35
ubotuI heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:35
fastlyand doesn't need to compile everything from scratch right?08:35
magnustheBreezyInCalif, are you sure? my /tmp is tmpfs... i.e. not a real partition at all08:35
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Loki_VAhi people08:35
naliothfastly: not unless you want to08:35
kbrooksfastly: no08:35
Loki_VAdoes anyone know why hal may fail on login?08:35
magnusthekbrooks, just put it in there08:36
apoZ`Help : I've got a install cd, but for windows.  Can i install it, using the driver-folder  ???08:36
kbrooksfastly: i used stage 3 on gentoo to avoid that, b/c i'm a linux newbie (at least, i think so)08:36
fastlyare packages available which are optimised for both AMD64 and Pentium M processors?08:36
fastlyi.e. not just generic x86..08:36
magnusthekbrooks, ah sorry... misread... there are several good gnupg guides around... no real need to write another on the wiki08:36
kbrookshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto08:36
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BreezyInCalifI was an absolute n00b when I set up this box so went with someone's "recommended" partition scheme. He put /tmp on its own partition. I would be happy to get rid of it; that would make life 2GB easier for me and since it's right next to /usr I could add the space directly to /usr and be a happy Breezy user.08:36
Sg4you|sleepyhi leute08:36
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Sg4you|sleepykann einer deutsch ?08:37
BreezyInCalifHow "move" /tmp to tmpfs?08:37
kbrooksmagnusthe: above08:37
nalioth!de08:37
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe08:37
wezzerI hardly can wait breezy!08:37
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magnustheBreezyInCalif, just see what 'mount' outputs... chances are you are already using it (which means you have wasted space :)08:37
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apoZ`Repeat : Help : I've got a install cd, but for windows.  Can i install it, using the driver-folder  ???08:37
flodineguys how do i get mplayer it not in synaptics08:38
naliothapoZ`: i dont understand " but for windows"08:38
BreezyInCalifI'm seeing tmpfs - but not for /tmp. Is there a way to post output of mount so I can show/tell you?08:38
BreezyInCaliftmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)08:38
BreezyInCalifis the line08:38
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meim with a server blocking my connections for all sites without www.centrobritanico.com.br e www.orkut.com.br08:38
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BreezyInCalifBut: /dev/hda11 on /tmp type ext3 (rw)08:39
mecan i degonfigurate that?08:39
Knorrieme: hack the server?08:39
meim trinng aCESSES SERVER FIREWWAL08:39
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mesorry08:39
mecaps on08:39
apoZ`It's a USB-device, I'd like to use it, But the cd with the driver is designed for windows08:39
magnustheBreezyInCalif, ah, looks like you really are using a partition for /tmp, which isn't really necessary (actually it isn't to recommend)08:39
BreezyInCalifI have /usr on /dev/hda10 so if I could delete /dev/hda11, that'd give me adjacent space to add to /usr08:39
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BreezyInCalifSo, I would just umount /tmp and take that out of fstab?08:40
apoZ`nalioth, It's a USB-device, I'd like to use it, But the cd with the driver is designed for windows08:40
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BreezyInCalifAnd /tmp will take care of itself?08:40
magnustheBreezyInCalif, please get a second opinion before you go ahead, I don't want to become known as "destroyer of Ubuntu systems"08:40
BreezyInCaliflol08:40
wezzer!breezy08:40
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:40
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magnustheBreezyInCalif, you need to edit /etc/fstab manually08:41
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BreezyInCalifUnderstood; I'm fine with editing /etc/fstab08:41
dolorisnabend zusammen08:41
doloriskann ma bitte jemand helfen08:41
magnustheBreezyInCalif, if you can wait until tomorrow you can always send me an email so I can get all the details right08:41
kbrooksSeveas: there?08:41
naliothdoloris: deutch in #ubuntu-de, bitte08:41
Seveaskbrooks, no, here08:41
apoZ`nalioth, ???08:41
BreezyInCalifmagnusthe - I can certainly wait; no urgency (or at least, I don't think I've got any urgency)08:42
NoUseapoZ` you can't use Windows drivers in Linux08:42
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apoZ`Isn't there a way to add hardware ?08:42
naliothapoZ`: then it depends if your mobo can boot from a usb device08:42
NoUsewhat kind of device is this?08:42
BreezyInCalifEspecially if I move /usr/doc as smne recommended above08:42
apoZ`like the "Add Hardware wizard" in windows ?08:42
magnustheBreezyInCalif, how the hell do I send a private message? I don't want to advertise my email address to the world08:43
flodineare the backports for breezy no good08:43
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NoUseapoZ` that would only help if the vendor included drivers for Linux, which most don't.  So in Linux 9 out 10 times if its supported, its dedtected and installed at boottime08:43
BreezyInCalifmagnusthe - type "/msg breezyincalif" and say hi ...08:43
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primoturboNeed some help I have a RAR file I downloaded, I got unrar but I have no idea how to use unrar. What's the terminal command for it?08:44
kbrooksSeveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto <== looks like you made this guide08:44
hubsihttp://www.wobshite.co.uk/b3ta/watching_you.gif <- LOL08:44
monksteranyone: where can I find out how to fix this GStreamer / "did you run gst-register?" problem08:44
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Seveaskbrooks, yes08:44
primoturboCan someone pls tell me how to use UNRAR?08:44
primoturboor at least how to open a RAR file08:44
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kbrooksSeveas: i recongize your full name. :)08:45
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naliothprimoturbo: "unrar -x file.rar"08:45
flodinehello i got backports in my repositories for breezy is that ok or not08:45
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martiwas is das?08:45
fastlywhat is the apt-get equivalent for etc-update?08:45
naliothflodine: there are no backports for breezy08:45
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magnustheBreezyInCalif, write down your plan as well so I can read through it with no pressure :)08:45
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kbrooksfastly: what is etc-update?08:45
primoturbobash: unrar: command not found08:45
BreezyInCalifWill do - and thank you *very* much!08:46
naliothprimoturbo: install unrar-nonfree08:46
primoturboI did08:46
kbrooksfastly: it has been so long since i have used gentoo08:46
fastlyshows you what config files are pending an update after upgrading packages08:46
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naliothprimoturbo: that command works for me08:46
primoturbounrar command doesn't work08:46
apoZ`What is the apt-get formule ??08:46
primoturbothat's really odd08:46
Eldessarfastly, run man aptitude08:46
KnorrieapoZ`: apt-get moo08:46
kbrooksI think apt has that built in, fastly.08:46
ced_Hello there. I've got a problem with Rhythmbox 0.9 on Breezy Badger:  When I import a folder in Rhythmbox, it looks ok (progress bars etc.) and I end up with the correct names and album titles in the library, but no single file is in the library. 0!08:46
NoUseapoZ` you should probalby use synaptic08:47
fastlyi.e. xorg.conf may be updated when xorg is upgraded... the old config file is not touched until you have used etc-update and viewed the diff08:47
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fastlyEldessar, will do thanks..08:47
kbrooksfastly: you will get prompted08:47
wabbleI have a thinkpad x31 with the ati m6 graphics chip, anyone want to help me configure external display on it?08:47
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BreezyInCalifMany thanks to all here, btw!08:47
wabbledont need help with ati drivers because they dont work on this chip08:47
kbrooksfastly: the configuration file wont be touched if you press N08:47
BreezyInCalifBe well ...08:47
Eldessarfastly, that sounds like a gentoo-specific thing08:47
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kbrooksEldessar: no it isnt08:47
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magnustheBreezyInCalif, CU08:48
frickeldo someone know the name of a kylix like free programm?08:48
BreezyInCalifcu all08:48
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primoturboI'm going to try installing Ark08:48
primoturbounrar-free doesn't seem to work08:48
apoZ`I found this at google : "It is supported by the ftdi_sio driver in kernels >=2.4.22-pre6 and >=2.6.0-test2    "  What does it say ??08:48
kbrooksfastly: it will be changed if you press Y08:48
stperefrickel, Kylix open edition? ;-)08:48
Zeke1can anybody help me with my ati drivers??08:48
Zeke1C-Keen, are you still here?08:48
kbrooksas for the diff, I don't remember which key08:48
C-KeenZeke1: yes :)08:48
NoUseapoZ` what kind of device is this? Ubuntu should support it if that statement is true08:49
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kbrooksbut you should be informed of what key to press to get a diff08:49
Eldessarkbrooks, i've been working with unix for 8 years and never heard of etc-update.08:49
frickelstpere: i mean not from borland08:49
wabbleC-Keen: help me instead :p08:49
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C-Keenwabble: ?08:49
wabbleI have a thinkpad x31 with the ati m6 graphics chip, anyone want to help me configure external display on it?08:49
kbrooksEldessar: the *function* of etc-update is done by package managers like apt08:49
wabblexorg stuff i think08:49
apoZ`NoUse, It's a synchronisation-thing for a mobile08:49
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stperefrickel, look for designer from qt (trolltech)08:50
C-Keenwabble: I have tried that aeons ago and I gave in. I would not be much help08:50
frickelstpere: thx08:50
Seveaskbrooks, etc-update is broken by design, like so many gentooisms :)08:50
stperefrickel, it's not exactly the same tho08:50
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wabbleC-Keen: damn you :P08:50
kbrooksEldessar: Some package managers move the file and put in a new file08:50
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wabbleok, i will bother someone else then;)08:50
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C-Keenwabble: I would prefer if you don't curse me08:50
necronudistexcuse...does anyone have a "trust spacecam 150 portable" webcam?08:50
kennethlovewhat do i need to install if i get a 'readline library not found' error? (and don't just answer 'readline')08:51
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kbrooksEldessar: RPM does that08:51
wabbleok, sorry. Was ment as a joke08:51
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florais there a line for breezy yet?08:51
C-Keenwabble: no offense taken :)08:51
florawhere does it start08:51
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Eldessarkbrooks, so on some sytems this is a script, and on others it's built into package menagement?08:51
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kbrooksflora: line for what?08:51
wabbleC-Keen: good :)08:51
kbrooksEldessar: Yeah.08:51
florafor breezy kbrooks08:51
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apoZ`NoUse, where can i find the ftdi_sio driver in kernels >=2.4.22-pre6 and >=2.6.0-test208:51
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kbrooksflora: be specific08:51
florakbrooks: BREEEZY08:51
kbrooksflora:  backports?08:51
naliothubotu: tell flora about upgrade2breezy08:52
Zeke1C-Keen,  im still having problems with my graphics driver08:52
NoUseapoZ` you already have the right kernel08:52
florano foo STABLE BREEZY08:52
NoUseapoZ` you have at least 2.6.8 if you are runny Ubuntu08:52
Knorrieflora: don't yell08:52
kbrooksflora: breezy is not stable yet08:52
Seveas!tell flora about sources08:52
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kbrookswait until thursday08:52
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floraKnorrie: that isn't yelling that is just using clear diction08:52
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Seveasflora, it's yelling08:52
apoZ`I am08:52
Seveasstop that08:52
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C-KeenZeke1: I thought so :) did you have a look in your xorg.conf and see if you enabled the right modules? you could also use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (I cannot remember the right package name)08:52
kbrooksflora: dont argue08:52
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C-Keenflora: please play nicely08:53
florayes i was making a joke y'all... like, as if there's a line to d/l breezy started already?08:53
kbrookspointless to argue, you wont win in the end08:53
Zeke1C-Keen,  i did all of that...still gives me that same error08:53
florasheesh i must be over your heds08:53
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NoUseapoZ` I've never used any sync devices with Linxu so I'm not sure how to help you from here08:53
naliothflora: ubotu sent you a msg08:53
florathanks nalioth08:53
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_marsHi08:53
TokenBadubuntu and ati 3d card...08:53
_marsI have Big problem08:53
TokenBadgood or bad?08:53
C-KeenZeke1: I am out of idea then if everything really looks ok...08:53
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kbrooksflora: download the breezy iso?08:54
sunshinedoe anyone know how to config mythtv08:54
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kbrooksor upgrade to breezy?08:54
naliothkbrooks: upgrading is easier08:54
naliothkbrooks: via network08:54
florakbrooks: both08:54
florai'll upgrade my main laptop, but will be installing fresh on some other boxes08:54
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morrolanHi guys, I'm looking for gnome-bluetooth-manager, but because the backports have gone offline I can't get hold of it :(08:54
Zeke1C-Keen,  ok but i get this eroor: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed08:54
benedettohi08:55
florageeez is it so bad to have a lil excitement over here?08:55
_marsSo i typed usermod -G video mars, cause in instruction it was write that i need it to install window decoration and it works. But then now i type something with sudo it shows:mars is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.. I dont know wjhat to do now. PLease help! :/08:55
apoZ`Problem : I would like to connect my mobile with Ubuntu, using my synchronisation thing.  How to ?08:55
kbrooksflora: CAPS equals shouting08:55
TokenBadATI Radeon 7000 work with ubuntu without much problems?08:55
N6REJ!apt-get08:55
ubotuapt-get is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/08:55
cazzamIs there a way to search for files?08:55
florakbrooks: you still stuck on that?08:55
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Seveascazzam, slocate08:55
kbrooksflora; no just a reminder08:55
RopechoborraHi08:56
RopechoborraGot quest.08:56
kennethloveis 'make' the same as 'gmake'?08:56
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kbrooksRopechoborra: then ask08:56
florakbrooks: thanks for treating me like a newbile08:56
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apoZ`Problem : I would like to connect my mobile with Ubuntu, using my synchronisation thing.  How to ?08:56
Seveaskennethlove, on linux systems: yes08:56
RopechoborraWhats that about a free distribution ?? They send it to you for free??08:56
KnorrieTokenBad: I got a ATI Radeon 9550 and it works fine08:56
Zeke1anybody ever get this message with graphics drivers : libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed08:56
kennethloveSeveas: thanks.08:56
naliothRopechoborra: just your time08:56
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kbrooksRopechoborra: and you can download it for free08:56
SeveasRopechoborra, yes, http://shipit.ubuntu.com08:56
sunshinedoes08:57
Ropechoborra<nalioth> Ropechoborra: just your time <--- didnt get that (not english speaker)08:57
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naliothRopechoborra: you must wait for the post to arrive08:57
sunshinedoes anyone know how to config mythtv08:57
Zeke1anybody ever get this message with graphics drivers : libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed  i need help?08:57
TokenBadKnorrie, any probs installing the drivers?08:57
RopechoborraOhh... and how much do i have to wait for it comeing to my door ?? :D08:57
SeveasRopechoborra, 4 to 6 weeks08:57
nalioth4 or 6 weeks08:57
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KnorrieTokenBad: no, i got a copy of xorg.conf from a friend and had none probs08:58
RopechoborraWoow08:58
kbrooksRopechoborra: ubuntu cd comes with a package of two cds. live cd, use to test ubuntu, and install cd, usee to install ubuntu08:58
KnorrieTokenBad: even dual-screen :P08:58
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SeveasRopechoborra, you can also download it for free, copy and share it for free and upgrade it for free...08:58
kbrooksRopechoborra: i have gotten just 1 cd this way08:58
frank23Ropechoborra: its much faster to download ubuntu... even witgh dialup08:58
cazzamWhat are .jar files?08:58
KnorrieTokenBad: and i did not need to install any driver that wasnt in ubuntu already08:58
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kbrooksfrank23: "faster"?08:58
Zeke1anybody ever get this message with graphics drivers : libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed  i need help? i have an ATI x80008:58
naliothcazzam: java executables08:58
wabbleKnorrie: can you send me a copy of your xorg, i want that so i maybe understand xorg configuration08:58
RopechoborraSo.... Isnt the people who do this loosing money ?08:58
SeveasZeke1: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.08:58
TokenBadKnorrie, ok08:59
wabblexorg.conf that is08:59
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frank23kbrooks: compared to waiting 4-weeks for a cd08:59
flodinewhy cant i install j2se runtime for breezy08:59
kbrooksfrank23: under dialup its slow08:59
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Knorriewabble, TokenBad ill put it online for you08:59
naliothubotu: tell flodine about java08:59
SeveasRopechoborra, yes08:59
wabbleok, great08:59
Ropechoborra<Seveas> Ropechoborra, you can also download it for free, copy and share it for free and upgrade it for free... <---- Got Dialup ( 5 kb/s download speed...) =P08:59
kbrooksnalioth: No.08:59
cazzamNalioth: I am trying to get a program for my math class to work, and it had me download a file and it gave me this command "cp aleksPack10.jar /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/lib/ext/"08:59
kbrooksnalioth: javadeb08:59
SeveasRopechoborra, ask a friend with DSL to download & burn it08:59
runedudeafter almost 2 days, i finally got ipv6 + rdns + bind working properly :) woot!08:59
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Seveasthat's perfectly legal08:59
naliothkbrooks: /msg ubotu java    please08:59
RopechoborraI know... :)09:00
naliothcazzam: you need to install java09:00
naliothubotu: tell cazzam about java09:00
wabbleKnorrie: just pm the link then? ;)09:00
cazzamNalioth, I did install it09:00
florayou realize that the hoary-breezy upgrade makes fc3-fc4 look like a trainwreck?09:00
kbrooksnalioth: how does all those bot wizards do those aliases? :)09:00
Knorriewabble, TokenBad : http://tom.tlm.thrijswijk.nl/~krh/zooi/xorg.conf09:00
Seveasflodine, fc IS a trainwreck...09:00
kbrooksflora: meaning what?09:00
wabbleKnorrie: ok, thanks!09:00
naliothflora: dont mention fc in here, please, (ugh)09:00
wabble:)09:00
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naliothkbrooks: meaning fc sucks09:01
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floranalioth sorry and thank you09:01
kbrooksnalioth: in terms of upgrades?09:01
naliothkbrooks: fedore/redhat has many issues09:01
florayou can't upgrade fc you have to reinstall09:01
kbrooksflora: wait a sec. it's not easy to upgrade fc you mean09:01
primoturboWhat can I get to open RAR files? Thanks09:01
Seveas!tell primoturbo about restricted09:02
kbrooksanyway, /me drops09:02
Zeke1can anybody help me with ati drivers and a amd64 with Ati x800?09:02
florakbrooks: ROGER09:02
floraprimoturbo: apt-get install rar?09:02
kbrooksflora: pls don't shout09:02
sunshinedoes anyone know how to config mythtv09:02
floraapt-cache search rar09:02
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primoturbono such thing as rar09:03
naliothprimoturbo: we have told you. unrar-nonfree. open a term and type "unrar -x file.rar"09:03
RopechoborraSo supous that i got some game for windows ex. Age of Empires, how can i make it to run in ubuntu ?09:03
Seveasprimoturbo, uboty sent you a message09:03
Knorriewabble: you can lookup your BusID (mine="PCI:1:0:0") with lspci -v09:03
Seveasread that09:03
primoturboyes but it says nothing about rar09:03
wabbleKnorrie: ok :D09:03
SeveasRopechoborra, wine may work, or cedega09:03
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primoturboRestrictedFormats wiki says nothing09:03
cazzamThis is too complicated09:03
RopechoborraThey come with the pack ?09:03
Ropechoborra:)09:03
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Loki_VAis there a cli network card setup app ?09:03
damo21hi, i have a problem formatting dos floppies in ubuntu09:04
necronudistdamned webcam09:04
primoturbono such thing as unrar-nonfree only unrar-free which doesn't work09:04
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damo21mkdosfs fails ... cant write FAT09:04
LaserLineHello All !09:04
Seveasprimoturbo, enable multiverse09:04
Seveas!tell primoturbo about repos09:04
LaserLineHow can I install Ubuntu and Dual Boot it, but without Installing GRUB to the MBR ?09:04
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damo21Anyone tried formatting a dos floppy in ubuntu?09:05
kbrooksLaserLine: GRUB detects other operating systems.09:05
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SeveasLaserLine, let grub install itself on a floppy (/dev/fd0)09:05
kbrooksi feel like reinstalling breezy09:06
primoturboSeveas: Doing this now, thnx09:06
damo21I spent ages making a nice dos boot image and now i cant write it with dd!!09:06
primoturboSeveas: Is it possible to see your desktop, just wana see how a pros setup looks like :)09:06
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Seveasdamo21, dd if=/your/file out=/dev/fd009:06
RopechoborraSeveas who are you... Some sort of ubuntu magigian ? xD09:06
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SeveasRopechoborra, yes09:07
RopechoborraCool09:07
Knorriewabble: lspci shows a hexadecimal number, just to be clear, so e.g. BusID "PCI:1:14:0" <= lspci says 01:0e.009:07
Seveasprimoturbo, sec.09:07
RopechoborraO_o09:07
RopechoborraAnd that?09:07
damo21Seveas: dd: writing to `/dev/fd0': Input/output error09:07
naliothRopechoborra: Seveas is a bot09:07
Loki_VAAnyone, is there a cli network card setup app ?09:07
LaserLineSeveas, I have a Windows XP Desktopo with 18GB of UnAllocated space, I would like to Install breezy in 2 days (already have an just Hoary laptop). I read that I can install Ubuntu with GRUB but instead of putting grub I can make a boot partition and then boot from it, but I don't know how I can do that...09:07
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Knorriedamo21: floppy is fubar, try the next one09:07
Ropechoborra<nalioth> Ropechoborra: Seveas is a bot <--- Dont belive it09:07
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Seveasprimoturbo, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299509:08
esacanybody have any success in setting up xsupplicant or wpa_supplicant with authenticating to a microsoft IAS server ?09:08
RopechoborraSeveas speek spanish ?? (if that, then i know nothing)09:08
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SeveasRopechoborra, yo no hablo espaol09:08
kbrooksRopechoborra: only english here09:08
naliothRopechoborra: espanol en #ubuntu-es09:08
damo21Knorrie: all my floppies are fubar :(09:08
Ropechoborra<Seveas> Ropechoborra, yo no hablo espaol <--- espaol09:08
primoturboI see, looks good09:08
RopechoborraxD09:09
apoZ`Anyone uses SyncML ???09:09
primoturbobtw unrar-nonfree is not there I enabled multiverse and all09:09
primoturboonly unrar-free is here, using breezy09:09
SeveasRopechoborra, set your system to UTF8 if you want to start living in the 21st century...09:09
naliothprimoturbo: did you update your apt?09:09
_marsso you cant help me :/09:09
RopechoborraSeveas UTF8 ?09:09
primoturboupdate apt?09:09
Knorriedamo21: perhaps it's the drive then which broke :|09:09
LaserLineSeveas Have any Idea how to install GRUB on a boot partition ?09:10
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PalleLap - :)09:10
RopechoborraWhat is UTF8 ?09:10
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primoturboI enabled repo. and used synaptic to search09:10
SeveasLaserLine, grub-install /dev/yourpartition09:10
damo21Knorrie: my drive is ancient, never replaced it09:10
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sunshinedoes anyone know how to conf a webcam09:10
LaserLineSeveas I mean from the Ubuntu installation CD...09:10
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Knorrie_mars: help with what? (sorry)09:10
nalioth!info unrar-nonfree09:10
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB09:10
naliothprimoturbo: it is there09:10
damo21Knorrie: didnt think hardware fd0 would break09:10
Seveasprimoturbo, hit the reload button in synaptic09:11
_marsSo i typed usermod -G video mars, cause in instruction it was write that i need it to install window decoration and it works. But then now i type something with sudo it shows:mars is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.. I dont know wjhat to do now. PLease help! :/09:11
primoturboI did that already09:11
LaserLineSeveas I don't have Linux on that desktop, I wiped the drive, and Installed XP, only used 62GB of the drive, and now I have 18GB of space not touched.09:11
_marsKnorrie:09:11
damo21Knorrie: i didnt smash it too many times against that wall09:11
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dmoyneHello I have migrated to Breezy but I have lost in menus the superuser console ! ; how to re-install it ?09:11
Knorriedamo21: lol09:11
primoturboI'm on breezy09:11
primoturbowas it removed from breezy?09:11
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Seveas!info unrar-nonfree breezy09:11
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ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB09:11
nalioth!info unrar-nonfree breezy09:11
oris_wolfbanehey, im on brezzy and the icon for my volume control has vanished09:12
primoturbo!info unrar-free09:12
Knorrie_mars: you added mars to the video group09:12
primoturbo!info unrar-nonfree09:12
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB09:12
primoturbo!info unrar-nonfree breezy09:12
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB09:12
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mbirkiscan i download the breezy now, and just update it after its released?09:12
Knorrie_mars: that doesnt affect the sudo configuration09:12
naliothprimoturbo: you are flooding the channel09:12
primoturbomy bad09:12
dmoyneI mean the superuser console can no more be accessed from menus as with Hoary ; what is to be done ?09:12
naliothprimoturbo: use your scroll function09:12
damo21does gnome have the option to scroll off the side of the screen to get to the next workspace?09:13
naliothdamo21: i dont think so09:13
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damo21nalioth: :( thats the only thing i really need09:13
Knorrie_mars: or did sudo stop working after you did the usermod?09:13
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naliothdamo21: there are window manglers you can use that do09:14
damo21nalioth: i guess i'll stick with xfce then until gnome makes that an option09:14
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kbrooksdamo21: enable it09:14
kbrookssomehow09:14
floraso is breezy stable and all ready to go via apt and its just the ISOs that come out in 2days?09:14
primoturbowhere is sources.list located?09:14
Seveasprimoturbo, /etc/apt/09:14
primoturboty09:15
naliothflora: breezy is as ready as it's gonna get09:15
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floranalioth: well Hot Dog!09:15
_marsKnorrie: I think yes09:15
seifeHi09:15
damo21kbrooks: i would, but im not a hardcore gtk programmer09:15
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seifeHow do i burn a CD with Ubuntu?09:15
florai guess that makes me an earnest jackass :)09:15
coobraseife:  like a iso09:15
kbrooksdamo21: no need09:16
mbirkisseife: install a burning application like k3b or gnomebaker09:16
kbrooksdamo21: let me see09:16
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apoZ`Anyone using DSS20 syncstation???09:16
sandollarhaha flora you can d/l the breezy iso now09:16
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damo21kbrooks: whats the point of having 4 workspaces if u cant scroll off the edge of the screen to reach them09:17
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tuesday23hi09:17
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seifecoobra, yes.09:17
HeManHi! I have an application (that isn't open source) which crashes the entire X-server, is there any way to debug that?09:17
ELClaudiois gnome 2.12 available for download (got hoary) ?09:17
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Lord_Maynothwhen is breezy going to be out09:17
_marsKnorrie: aNY IDEA WAT I CAN DO NOW?09:17
kbrooksELClaudio: upgrade to breezy09:17
_marsKnorrie: sorry09:17
SeveasLord_Maynoth, /topic09:17
damo21on the 13th09:17
seifembirkis, synaptic tells me that k3b is installed but i dont see it.09:17
naliothdamo21: use ctrl-alt-right/left arrow09:17
Knorrie_mars: can you `su` to get a root prompt?09:17
kbrookswe need a FAQ09:18
Knorrie_mars: instead of sudo09:18
kbrooksand guess what? :P09:18
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naliothseife: alt-f2, enter 'k3b'09:18
Seveaskbrooks, there is..09:18
kbrooksSeveas: umm09:18
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_antixfaq shmaq09:18
sunshinedoe sanyone know why when i try an config gnome meeting it say there is no devices found09:18
damo21nalioth: meh too much effort, xfce is easier :P09:18
squid0hello all09:18
_antixbecause there's no devices found?09:18
ELClaudioto kbrooks > i don't want to break my config09:18
kbrooksthis "when is breezy going to be out", afaik, is the MOST FREQUENT QUESTION asked09:18
Knorrie_mars: i guess `sudo visudo` won't work :P09:18
seifecouldn't find dirrection <<file:/k3b>>09:18
naliothdamo21: install xubuntu-desktop in breezy09:18
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damo21oh?09:19
cevizogluwhat is the difference between suspend and hibernate from the logout menu, and are both of those commands known to work on a thinkpad t43?09:19
naliothseife: then you may not have it installed. open a terminal and type "which k3b"09:19
Seveaskbrooks, stop shouting :p09:19
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kbrookscevizoglu: suspend to ram09:19
kbrookshibernate to disk09:19
ozzy_cowhi guys, I'm trying to run ubuntu live cd on an old imac 333 G309:19
_marsmars@lunar:~$ su09:19
_marsPassword:09:19
_marssu: Authentication failure09:19
_marsKnorrie:09:19
ozzy_cowbut I dont know how to make it boot from the cd09:19
kbrooksSeveas: i am serious09:19
seifethat doesnt do anything09:20
ozzy_cowany mac guys around? :-)09:20
nalioth_mars: do not paste in hre09:20
Lord_Maynothif I install the release candidate now will I be able to update it to make it the official or will I have to reformat and install the offical09:20
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Seveas_mars, don't paste. And use sudo -i09:20
naliothozzy_cow: yes ask a question09:20
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naliothLord_Maynoth: surely, you will09:20
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naliothLord_Maynoth: ubuntu is designed so you never have to install again09:20
cevizogluozzy_cow, did you start up the computer while holding the c key?09:20
ozzy_cowyes i did!09:20
LaserLineDoes Breezty support Reiser4 ?09:20
damo21OHH i didnt know there was an xubuntu package!!09:20
ozzy_cowthe screen flashes and thats it09:20
ozzy_cowboots into os 8.609:21
SeveasLaserLine, not yet afaik09:21
damo21WOW09:21
naliothozzy_cow: try it holding the alt-0ption key at the chime09:21
Ropechoborradamo21 xubunto package ??09:21
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_marsSeveas: Doesent work still shows that i am not idn sudoers file :/09:21
SeveasLaserLine, ehm09:21
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Knorrie_mars: dont flood, i dont know if you're locked in now :|09:21
naliothoh wait. ozzy_cow what kind of machine do you have?09:21
ozzy_cowi downloaded and burned the iso on windows, is that a problem?09:21
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SeveasI'm wrong, reiser4 is supported09:21
cevizogluozzy_cow, is 8.6 the only operating system you have on there right now?09:21
ozzy_cowyes09:21
Seveas_mars, boot into recovery, add yourself to sudoers09:21
ozzy_cowits imac 333 G309:21
gleesondis there a way to make the file management all in one window instead of multiple09:21
apoZ`Help please09:21
LaserLineSeveas What filesystem would you recommend for a desktop ?09:22
naliothRopechoborra: xubuntu-desktop in breezy installs an xfce4 desktop system09:22
seifewhat do u you guys prefer Gnome or KDE?09:22
naliothozzy_cow: is that new world?09:22
Seveasgleesond, yes, in the preferences09:22
cevizogluozzy_cow, I think you might need to set up an oldworld boot... I couldn't really give the details about it, though09:22
naliothLaserLine: ext309:22
apoZ`I would like to get my syncstation for my mobile working09:22
Seveastab behaviour, select "aways open in brower"09:22
ozzy_cowhmmm09:22
ozzy_cowold world?09:22
sandollari like KDE09:22
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naliothozzy_cow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs09:22
Protequeseife: none. I prefer sawfish + aterm and Esetroot for seting a backgroundpicture.09:22
damo21nalioth: which are the other packages i could uninstall if i just use xubuntu09:23
ozzy_cowthanks! im going to read09:23
LaserLinenalioth Why Ext3 and not ReiserFS, Reiser4, XFS or JFS ?09:23
naliothdamo21: keep all your files, they'll all work under xfce409:23
seifesandollar, why?09:23
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naliothLaserLine: ext3 is more stable and has better tools to work with it09:23
seifeim planning to change from ubuntu to kubuntu09:23
seifekde looks nice09:23
naliothseife: you can have all the DMs you want09:24
morrolanKDE looks too much like Windows for me09:24
Lord_Maynothmaybe in a few years gnome will be usable09:24
Lord_Maynoththey finally got around to adding a menu editor i hear09:24
damo21so kubuntu is a different distro? is there an xfce distro too?09:24
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seifenalioth, DMs?09:24
morrolanyeah, it's called SMEG of all things09:24
Lord_MaynothLOL I hate smeg09:24
KyralKubuntu and Xubuntu are "variants"09:24
frank23damo21: kubuntu is the same distro using kde instead by default09:24
Lord_Maynothdoesn't even work and just hides the icons09:25
naliothseife: desktop manager kde, gnome, xfce4, enlightenment, fluxbox, blackbox, etc09:25
LaserLinenalioth But distro"s like Suse use ReiserFS as default... So I get confused :-(09:25
morrolanI've never had an issue with SMEG09:25
naliothLaserLine: suse has issues09:25
seifenalioth, ok09:25
morrolannot the most versatile program, but it looks as if it has potential09:25
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KnorrieLaserLine: i've always used reiserfs in debian and ubuntu, and without problems09:26
damo21so, lets say i wanted to create a list of default packages tweaked for xfce... what would be the main packages? xubuntu-desktop?09:26
_marsSeveas:  Will i need to type any command?09:26
apoZ`I would like to get my syncstation for my mobile working. HELP PLEASE ?09:27
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damo21is that all i need? just xubuntu-desktop? :D09:27
Knorrie_mars: `visudo` and add most easy is to add the line 'mars ALL=(ALL) ALL' at the end of the file in the editor09:27
LaserLinenalioth I ask because I had to Install Hoary 3 times on my laptop because EXT3 keep's crashing, and ResierFS has no problems. and now I want to install Breezy on my desktop, and I'm searching all over the net about FileSystems...to decide..09:27
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naliothLaserLine: go with what you are comforable with, i've never had a problem with ext309:27
LaserLineKnorrie I use ReiserFS on my laptop too (see above line)09:27
KnorrieLaserLine: yes i read that :p09:27
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LaserLineKnorrie Now that Reiser4 is out, is it any good ?09:28
damo21why does xubuntu-desktop require abiword?09:28
LaserLinenalioth Thanks :-)09:28
naliothdamo21: abiword is a very light txt/rtf editor09:29
KnorrieLaserLine: don't know, but i would not recommend taking any risk losing all your stuff09:29
LaserLineKnorrie What's so special about XFS ?09:29
damo21whats graveman? lol09:29
naliothdamo21: a not so good cd burner09:29
KnorrieLaserLine: i even use reiserfs on LVM and RAID etc, nice is that you can resize partitions on-the-fly09:29
apoZ`I would like to get my syncstation for my mobile working. HELP PLEASE ?09:30
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KnorrieLaserLine: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html :) and XFS can handle really laaaarge filesystems09:30
abarbacciaCan't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC  --- how do i install that perl module?09:30
LaserLineKnorrie I just need a desktop, not a server... And I need something stable AT LEAST as NTFS (yeah, you can laugh!) My windows works with NTFS...09:31
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cwillu_Is there any way to adjust the tiem sensitivity of the x-mouse mode?09:31
apoZ`Is there a tutorial site for open-source codes ??09:31
cwillu_bah... tiem=time09:31
naliothLaserLine: linux cant write to NTFS09:31
Knorrieabarbaccia: libdate-manip-perl09:31
naliothapoZ`: codes for what?09:31
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LaserLinenalioth I know, that's why I made a 5GB FAT32 partition...09:31
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apoZ`nalioth, the programming and stuff like that09:31
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damo21whats so special about LVM09:32
apoZ`nalioth, a site for ubuntu-noobs :)09:32
naliothubotu: tell apoZ` about cli09:32
squid0cwillu, are you using gnome?09:32
cwillu_yes09:32
stewartoI installed Breezy from Preview iso and last night performed an update ( which included a later kernel ). Although everything boots and works ok I have lost the fancy boot splash. Any ideas what I need to do to fix that?09:32
apoZ`nalioth, tx09:32
cwillu_not the "raise window after x seconds"09:32
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fmasihow do i rite something into /boot/grub/menu.list whithout having it erase by ubuntu09:32
KnorrieLaserLine: yes i know, i can recommend reiserfs, but i never used ext3 much, so im not an expert to tell differences09:32
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damo21it looks more confusing than extended partitions09:33
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Knorriedamo21: LVM is cool, no more partitioning woes09:33
damo21oh?09:33
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apoZ` How open terminal in Breezy ?09:33
castlerockKnorrie> ext3 is great for general purpose, ReiserFS is good if you have many small files because it balances the Filesystem09:33
naliothapoZ`: Applications > system tools > terminal09:33
damo21LVM u can resize on the fly?09:34
Knorriedamo21: yes09:34
castlerockapoZ`: Also Right Click on the Desktop > Terminal09:34
damo21:)09:34
Seveasfmasi, don't edit between ## BEGIN DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST and ## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST09:34
Knorriedamo21: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/benefitsoflvmsmall.html09:34
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stewartoapoz I think its under accessories in Breezy ... moved09:34
LaserLineKnorrie I have ReiserFS on my laptop and I use Beagle, and it works, But some people say it works much slower then EXT3... I wasn't able to use EXT3 on my laptop because INODES didn't like each other and kept fighting.. it was installed, and after you finished setting all your stuff and reboot (FS was clean) all INODES starting to go bezerk.... (maybe because it's a old Hard drive, but NTFS didn't make these problems)...09:34
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apoZ`castlerock, i don't see terminal in right click :)09:35
cwillu_How can I set the delay before activation (as opposed to autoraise) when using "activation follows mouse"?09:35
Knorriecastlerock: thanks, yeah, reiserfs is great on partitions with cyrus imap spools, where every email is a file09:35
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vbgunz_hello everyone, I have a question09:35
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stewartoapoz: Applications/Accessories09:36
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naliothapoZ`: install nautilus-open-terminal  with apt-get09:36
apoZ`stewarto, thx :)09:36
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vbgunz_I just tested a friends installation of Windows without a firewall active and found all his ports were not stealthed but closed. I tried the Ubuntu Live CD and tested the ports and found it equivalent to Windows... All ports were closed *but* not stealthed... I thought Linux was a firewall and hid the PC from the net... Is this not true?09:37
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apoZ`nalioth, what should happen after installing it ?09:37
ben__hey09:37
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ben__I am a new user of linux, I try to install skype, but I don't get it09:38
cwillu_vbgunz_:  linux _has_ a firewall, but it can be turned off just like the one in windows;09:38
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vbgunz_Ubuntu/Windows without a firewall running *both* show the same amount of open ports... Ubuntu doesn't stealth anything, why? I thought it had a firewall09:38
KnorrieLaserLine: http://kerneltrap.org/node/5654 (search for 'slow' :) ) v4 is faster, but it's unlikely you would experience difference on a workatstion09:39
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vbgunz_I thought it was a firewall... one built into Linux *but* test show ports all as closed?09:39
squid0ben__,  how have you gone about it?09:39
damo21yes LVM looks good, but then there is so much abstraction from the physical sectors on the disk, if u try data recovery it will be very difficult09:39
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heatxsinkhello all09:40
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LaserLineKnorrie Yeah, but I understand Beagle works diffrently, so that's why it works slow with ReiserFS (evenm though I got it to work on my old laptop)09:40
heatxsinkis universe donw?09:40
heatxsinkdown*09:40
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cwillu_vbgunz_:  and it's not neccessary for a firewall to merely drop packets, it's quite allowable for a firewall to actively deny connections09:40
fmasiSeveas could i create ablend new one or i will nead to do another kernel entry just to be able to set my setings ?09:40
naliothapoZ`: you'll have right-click-terminal09:40
Knorriedamo21: that's true09:40
apoZ`nope :)09:41
damo21:)09:41
apoZ`It says i already have the package nautilus-open-terminal09:41
Seveasfmasi, read that file if you want to add settings to kernel lines. It has instructions on how to do that09:41
aphex!wireless09:41
ubotumethinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards09:41
Knorriedamo21: i would say: it's more difficult, not very difficult ;-)09:41
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naliothapoZ`: then you should be able to right click on the desktop or in nautilus and get a terminal option09:41
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fmasiSeveas but i no able to have a clen file i am oblige to have it the way it is right ?09:41
damo21Knorrie: well, all it would require is a plugin module for LVM recovery09:42
damo21:P09:42
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marisal all09:42
apoZ`nalioth,  nope no right click terminal09:42
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Seveasfmasi, it's better to use the ubuntu-specific things because all kernel packages use that09:42
aphex!fuck09:42
ubotuI haven't a clue, aphex09:42
naliothapoZ`: then i'm lost09:42
apoZ`:)09:42
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vbgunz_cwillu, ok, my point I guess is why is Windows unsecured out of the box without a firewall whereas Linux in my test showed the same exact ports as closed... How does Linux better in not needing a firewall... In a sense would it be true then that Windows does *not* need a firewall? I am really curious, since I see the same in both OS, I no longer think I understand... Just asking for insight about it, I am unsure09:42
afiefhow do i install new languages to ubuntu?09:42
fmasiSeveas ok thx09:42
naliothaphex: not nice09:42
apoZ`it's ok, i've added it to the panel :)09:42
dbughow can i have a update list to do on terminal09:42
Seveasafief, system -> administration -> language selector09:42
dbug?09:42
apoZ`is there a dutch channel of #ubuntu ???09:43
Seveas!nl09:43
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.09:43
Knorriekoffie!09:43
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naliothvbgunz_: linux doesnt open up to any request09:43
Seveasmet koek :p09:43
squid0afief: using synaptic find and install language packs and bases, the ones you want09:43
heatxsinkwhat other mirror's could I use besides ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov09:43
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Jedrickhow to install media player plug-ins on firefox?09:43
damo21is there a way to display the minimum list of packages which would be the root of all dependencies?09:43
heatxsinkfor breezy packages?09:43
squid0en 'n paar biskuite ook09:44
rob_pvbgunz_:  If you want your ports "stealthed", then configure iptables to drop inbound connection requests.09:44
afiefSevas: there is no language selector there. I just installed 5.04 perhaps after the update?09:44
vbgunz_nalioth, although both OS show all ports as closed Vs stealth, the difference lies in the fact that Windows will respond to request whereas Ubuntu will not?09:44
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florian__is there a tutorial on how to play wmv-files with mplayer09:44
florian__?09:44
Seveasflorian__, mplayer filename.wmv09:44
LaserLineKnorrie This Hans Reiser is a smart guy (reading the interview)09:44
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marican anyone give ma a hint about wine?09:44
vbgunz_rob_p, hello bro, I haven't been home all day, am typing this from another friends house off the live CD ;)09:44
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sorush20can some one tell me why the init.d/plugin is not running. it stops.. what the hell is going on..09:45
rob_pvbgunz_:  Hey man.  How's it goin?09:45
apoZ`mari, it's red and it's in a bottle09:45
mariI'm trying to install wine and have no succes for a two weeks09:45
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naliothvbgunz_: windows is full of security holes (unpatched systems and unknown holes) which make it easy to get into a windows box09:45
florian__Seveas, MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_video09:45
mariit drives me crazy09:45
afiefSevas: there is no language selector there. I just installed 5.04 perhaps after the update?09:45
Seveasflorian__, that's a segfault. Did you compile it yourself?09:45
damo21how do u print out the list of packages on your system?09:46
Seveasafief, the lang. selector is new in breezy09:46
florian__Seveas, no, just installed the package09:46
vbgunz_rob_p, I've been too two friends house and been on the net from the live on both... Am cool, just tried to show one friend the difference in regards to the firewall issue *but* believe I misunderstood it...09:46
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Seveasyou can install language packs with syanptic and use sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales to switch language09:46
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AparteventWhazza!!09:46
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AparteventHello?09:47
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vbgunz_nalioth, so basically, Linux and Windows are the same on the firewall issue, the difference then lies in unpatched and unknown holes on Windows?09:47
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cwillu_vbgunz_:  basically, except that the linux firewall is also infinitely more configurable;  this may or may not have any use for 'simple' uses however09:48
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naliothvbgunz_: every OS is the same in respects to firewalls. windows has some very gaping security issues that make a firewall necessary on it (not going into the 'programs phoning home with your credit card info problems)09:48
damo21This APT has Super Cow Powers?09:49
vbgunz_cwillu, I was just thinking that I would have made the test and found that everything came back as stealth... I was just surprised that it didn't turn around like that... So, I thought I ask whats the difference between both OS since they btoh returned the same results09:49
naliothvbgunz_: linux was designed from the beginning (actually unix) to be a network operating system09:49
damo21:-P09:49
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naliothvbgunz_: windows has only come lately into "network operating system"09:50
cwillu_you _can_ set it up to stealth everything, but that makes things trickier in a home network without really making more secure09:50
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ncetervalHi, I'm having a reoccuring problem with my Breezy installation.  Apps such as apt-get or synaptic lauched using sudo keep exiting with seg faults.  Even more odd is that sometimes an apt-get command will get further in its operation than other times before it crashes with a segfault error, no specific operation seems to be doing it.  How do I fix this?09:50
naliothcwillu_: a firewall isnt necessary for a default ubuntu install09:50
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cwillu_nalioth:  I believe I said that before :p09:51
cwillu_but if you can tell me how to set the activation delay for activation-follows-mouse, I'll be happy to stop confusing the issue :p09:52
naliothcwillu_: sorry, i'm doing many things at once09:52
cwillu_np09:52
damo21this is so strange..... my floppy disk drive can format disks, but wont write to them09:52
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GNULinuxeris it okay to upgrade to breezy now?09:53
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TiMiDoGNULinuxer yeah why?09:53
meatwadok i can't seem to get to re-install grub correctly09:53
GNULinuxerTiMiDo: or is it still unstable?09:53
TiMiDodon't give up meatwad09:53
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vbgunz_nalioth, ok, I will look up more information on it, I would just like to know more about it and will google for it when I get home. *but* basically the difference between both OS you're saying is, Windows has gaping security holes and is not a network operating system Vs Ubuntu whereas it was built from the ground up as a network operating system... I'll take this with my on my search, thank you!09:53
apokryphosGNULinuxer: again, it's technically not stable, but it's fairly close to it09:53
meatwadwindows over-wrote my bootloader and i can't seem to get it to work correctly09:53
GNULinuxerTiMiDo: I want to upgrade09:53
TiMiDoit is GNULinuxer until 2 more days09:54
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meatwadi got it re-write to the MBR09:54
meatwadbut linux won't start up09:54
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TiMiDotry a knoppix disk or the ubuntu live cd09:54
coobraliten :p09:54
DShepherdmeatwad: reinstall grub09:54
meatwadbasically when i install grub it knows root is ext2fs...but when i try to load it...it thinks its ntfs09:54
Subliminalcould somebody help me with mouse problems, it thinks i'm clicking when i'm not :-/09:54
entilumm, guys, shouldn't breezy be out soon?09:54
GNULinuxerTiMiDo: hmm, i don't understand. Sid is _always_ in a usable state ... why is it different with Ubuntu?09:54
meatwadso something is backwards09:54
TiMiDoentil yeah in 2 more days09:54
borgistaentil: the 13th09:54
borgistavery soon09:54
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meatwadi'm using the ubuntu live cd09:54
entilI tried forcing breezy in a 32-bit chroot but it dies with hal, so I figured it must use the hal of the main system, which fails then09:54
entilbecause proc and friends are shared09:55
entilbut if it's out on the 13th I can dist-upgrade now :>09:55
ncetervalSo, does anyone have any idea why sudo commands might be segfaulting on Breezy...?09:55
TiMiDomeatwad ok i will help you09:55
entilthe web page is very ambiguous about this09:55
TiMiDodo this meatwad mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/foo09:55
entilseems it'd help people if there was even a statement or something on the front page09:55
borgistaQuick question: Why doesn't my graphical pager no longer show previews?(Breezy)09:55
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TiMiDoor whatever the partition is09:55
meatwadhere is what i do09:55
meatwadi go into the live cd09:56
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meatwadmount my linux drive09:56
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TiMiDook09:56
meatwadthen chroot in there09:56
meatwadand run grub from there09:56
meatwadbasically my linux is /dev/hdc109:56
TiMiDodon't forget source /etc/profile09:56
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gleesondhow do I create shortcuts to folders09:56
aphex!WIRELESS09:56
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards09:56
sorush20guys I can't remove files from my computer space can somone help please.09:56
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TiMiDogleesond right click on gnome09:56
borgistaQuick question: Why doesn't my graphical pager no longer show previews?(Breezy09:56
Belutzgleesond, using ln -s09:57
borgistasorush20: what do you want to remove?09:57
sorush20I have logged in but I can't delete thing in my space.. ?09:57
TiMiDodid you do that meatwad source /etc/profile ?09:57
meatwadyea09:57
sorush20borgista: just and file that is sitting in my /home/myusername/09:57
TiMiDook09:57
entilok thanks for the tip, dist-upgrading09:57
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meatwadi'm in my /boot/grub dir09:57
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TiMiDook,09:57
TiMiDochroot /mnt/foo /bin/bash09:57
sorush20I can't delete any files..09:57
TiMiDodid u do that?09:57
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borgistasorush20: maybe you created it as root?(sudo)09:58
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meatwadyeah09:58
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primoturboDoes Cedega cost money?09:58
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TiMiDomeatwad do this better dude chroot /mnt/foo /bin/bash09:58
TiMiDobla not that09:58
borgistain terminal do: sudo rm -f /home/yourusername/filename09:58
damo21dd: writing to `/dev/fd0': Input/output error: 17+0 records in 16+0 records out 8192 bytes transferred09:58
TiMiDomeatwad /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda09:58
primoturboHas anyone tried running steam on Cedega09:58
TiMiDothat09:58
TiMiDoit's easy09:58
meatwadoh09:58
TiMiDoput the partition on /dev/hda09:58
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meatwadso /dev/hda=windows drive?09:58
primoturboGuys, has anyone used Cedega? Does it cost money and can it run steam?09:59
TiMiDoyeah it is09:59
meatwadlike mine is /dev/sda09:59
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TiMiDomeatwad did you put the command?09:59
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meatwadi did /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda10:00
borgistasorush20: did that work?10:00
meatwadand it printed out some stuff10:00
TiMiDook did something10:00
TiMiDosuch as?10:00
vbgunz_oh did you guys hear about Halo the movie? Peter Jackson is going to take on the project and has upfronted 5 million to Microsoft for it. Funny thing is Weta Digital (I believe owned by Peter Jackson) has over a thousand computers working on the film. They all run Linux...10:00
TiMiDopasted them on pastebin.ubuntu.nl10:00
meatwad(hd0) /dev/hdc10:00
ncetervalprimoturbo: You can download the source for free, I believe, but not a packaged/supported version.10:00
TiMiDook10:00
TiMiDogreat.10:00
meatwad(hd1) /dev/sda10:00
borgistaQuick question: Why doesn't my graphical pager no longer show previews?(Breezy10:00
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TiMiDo!tell borgista about xorg10:00
TiMiDoso it did work meatwad?10:00
[TvM] hi10:00
vbgunz_Microsoft's Halo the movie, is produced by 1,000 computers running Linux... In short...10:01
LaserLineKnorrie If I choose ReiserFS from the Breezy Installer, what version will I get ? 4 or 3 ?10:01
Knorrie3.610:01
Knorriethe stable one10:01
TiMiDodid it worked meatwad?10:01
LaserLineKnorrie Is ResierFS managable to upgrade ? 3.6 to 4 ? like EXT2 to EXT3 ?10:02
meatwadwell i think10:02
TiMiDoreboot and u will see,10:02
meatwadi have to reboot to know for sure10:02
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TiMiDook, come back10:02
meatwadi was doing it different before10:02
KnorrieLaserLine: i dont know10:02
[TvM] hi! i have instaled ubuntu in my laptop (hp pavilion) and im geting these errors every 2 s10:02
TiMiDolol10:02
[TvM] Error: Not ready -- (Sense key=0x02)10:02
[TvM] Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)10:02
[TvM] The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was:10:02
[TvM] "25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "10:02
damo21which fs: xfs or reiser?10:02
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TiMiDowell come back meatwad10:02
[TvM] how can i fix that?10:02
TiMiDo[TvM]  please do not pasted here,10:02
[TvM] TiMiDo soz10:02
TiMiDosoz?10:03
lorenzoddamo21, for which purpose?10:03
HappyFool[TvM] : take any disc in your cdrom/dvd out10:03
meatwadok that didn't work10:03
damo21desktop system, 40gb + 30gb10:03
[TvM] i have no disk inside10:03
LaserLineKnorrie From the interview you sent me, I didn't understand if Beagle is suppoed to work faster or slower the EXT3 (I know the XTTR is available for ReiserFS 3 in hoary)10:03
TiMiDomeatwad u sure?10:03
meatwadi'm confused what i messed up10:03
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meatwadwhen i try to boot10:03
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[TvM] i boot withou any disk in drive10:03
TiMiDothat's how u reinstall grun into the MBR10:03
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meatwadit is trying to boot off the ntfs drive it seems10:03
cwillu_is there any way to set a delay on activation-follows-mouse?10:03
meatwadso i'm wondering if i have menu.lst backwards10:03
TiMiDobla10:04
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HappyFool[TvM] : in that case i don't know; sorry. maybe an unsupported cd/dvd drive or drive error10:04
TiMiDocheck10:04
TiMiDoor just do grub new10:04
TiMiDoand ur done,10:04
[TvM] how can i "turn off" the cdrom?10:04
meatwadbecause when i try to select windows...it says filesystem type is ext2fs10:04
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Knorriecwillu_: yes, menu system -> preferences -> windows10:04
cwillu_nomed, that's the auto-raise delay10:05
TiMiDook meatwad do this boot with ubuntu again and do this grub new10:05
cwillu_bah... nomed = no... not sure where the med came from :)10:05
meatwadwhat do i do? grub new?10:05
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TiMiDoyeah as root10:05
meatwadoh ok10:05
TiMiDoand then reboot it10:06
cwillu_it's not the raising I'm looking for, it's the interval before activation10:06
Spudchathi everyone...im usin kubuntu and would like to upgrade to breezy...is it the same procedure?10:06
squid0cwillu: ie so you click something, and then you want it to pause for a bit until it executes it?10:06
naliothSpudchat: yes it is10:07
Spudchatty :)10:07
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cwillu_nomed, I mouse over something, and I want a .1second delay before it activates10:07
cwillu_I can do it under windows :(10:07
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squid0cwillu: how?10:07
[TvM] how can i "turn off" the cdrom?10:07
cwillu_tweak ui10:08
TiMiDoand tell me how it went meatwad10:08
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damo21cwillu u can do this with xfce10:08
meatwadalright soon as i reboot i'll let you know if it worked10:08
squid0cwillu: more specifically?10:08
TiMiDook10:08
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chiicohi. i need find lines that not matching in 2 files, the 2 out of order10:09
cwillu_I turn on activation-follows-mouse, and then I set the delay before it _activates_ a window;  I can do the same thing with the _auto-raise_ behaviour (on/off + setting delay)10:09
chiicothere is some way?10:09
TiMiDochiico dd file1 file210:09
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chiicothe line in the 2 files are not in same place10:09
squid0TiMiDo: whoa. does that not copy/overwrite the changes?10:09
TiMiDonope squid010:09
TiMiDoman dd10:10
damo21what about diff10:10
TiMiDotrue diff also10:10
chiicoi will use excel10:10
chiicohehehe10:10
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TiMiDocool,10:10
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Zeke1has anyone ever gotten this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed10:10
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TiMiDoZeke1 enable framebuffer10:11
CryptidIs there a Qbasic Compiler for Which  will work under Ubuntu??????????10:11
damo21wine qb10:11
TiMiDoCryptid build-essential10:11
[TvM] how can i replace gnome and put kde in ubuntu?10:11
naliothCryptid: apt-cache search qbasic10:11
Cryptiddamo21, it wont work man i tried10:11
meatwadisn't gambas basic-based?10:11
squid0[Tvm]  kubuntu.org10:11
cwillu_xfce = xfce4?10:11
nalioth[TvM] : install "kubuntu-desktop"10:11
Zeke1TiMiDo, how do i enable the framebuffer10:12
damo21cwillu: get xubuntu-desktop10:12
meatwadok i did grub new10:12
cwillu_cryptid:  do you have existing source, or is it because you are familiar with qbasic?10:12
meatwadnow what?10:12
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TiMiDo/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda10:12
TiMiDothat meatwad10:12
Zeke1TiMiDo, is that the kernel framebuffer in the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you are talking about10:12
meatwadinside of that grub command line?10:12
TiMiDoyeah Zeke110:12
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meatwadi'm confused10:12
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cwillu_damo21: xubuntu-desktop:  where is that?10:12
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TiMiDoyeah just put that there10:13
Zeke1TiMiDo, ok cool thanx let me try10:13
naliothcwillu_: in breezy10:13
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meatwadoh ok10:13
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Cryptidcwillu, i am femiliar with qbasic and i find it irritating to restart and login to Windows10:13
damo21cwillu: it is in synaptic10:13
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meatwadit doesn't know that command10:13
cwillu_how does breezy interact with backports?10:13
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TiMiDoare u serious?10:13
Cryptidcwillu, i have a .bas file i need to compile10:13
meatwadit says unrecognized command10:13
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TiMiDodo cd ..10:13
TiMiDoand try again10:13
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damo21cwillu: it installs xfce window manager instead of gnome10:14
gleesonddoes anyone know of an IM program that mannages different types of accounts i.e. aim icq10:14
TiMiDogleesond gaim10:14
naliothcwillu_: xubuntu-desktop is available in breezy only10:14
damo21gleesond: gaim10:14
meatwadi'm confused though10:14
Zeke1TiMiDo, do i need to reboot after doing that10:14
TiMiDoZeke1 yeah reboot the X10:14
meatwadyou can't do system commands while in grub command line can you10:14
TiMiDomeatwad as you as root?10:14
gleesondcool10:14
TiMiDo*are10:14
cwillu_meatwad... you're probably looking for 'sudo <command>'10:14
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cwillu_Cryptid:  what's the program?  are you a programmer?10:15
meatwadno well i don't think the grub command line app can do system commands10:15
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cwillu_meatwad:  what are you trying to do?10:15
TiMiDomeatwad well exit from there (:10:15
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meatwadlol10:15
TiMiDoand try again10:15
Cryptidya i wrote this stupid program which is sort of a loop trojan10:15
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damo21i used to write qb45 but i linked it with lots of asm hacks.... wont work in linux i suspect10:16
cwillu_lol10:16
Cryptidcwillu, ya i wrote this stupid program which is sort of a loop trojan10:16
SuperTails92dosbox or dosemu seem like decent choices10:16
TiMiDoafter u do that command that i give u to the grub new10:16
TiMiDoand then u reboot10:16
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Cryptidcwillu, I wrote QuickFLood.a which is categorised as DDos program i am writing the second version of it10:17
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xml-bloghi all, sorry for the noob question, but googling breezy brought back a bunch of results that said "Don't upgrade till 10/13" Since it's only 2 days away I'm wondering if it's safe to just change sources.list and go for it ?10:17
N6REJapt-get remove left behind parts of hula, how can I make everything gone?10:17
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cwillu_Crypid:  what exactly does it do?10:17
TiMiDoxml-blog if you know what you're doing yes10:17
naliothxml-blog: go for it10:17
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meatwadhmm that doesn't make sense10:17
TiMiDomeatwad what doesn't10:17
meatwadwhat does the new after grub do exactly?10:17
TiMiDo?10:17
Cryptidcwillu, i added random strings to it so it wont be detected by avs so now i need a qbasic compiler for ubuntu can u help me10:17
xml-blogTiMiDo, nal, thanks!10:17
TiMiDomeatwad updates the os on ur menu.lst10:17
TiMiDonp xml-blog10:18
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sorush20will I need any gnome libs if I'm using kde?10:18
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cwillu_Cryptid... what _exactly_ are you trying to do10:18
naliothsorush20: not unless you are gonna run gnome programs10:18
meatwadmenu.lst isn't modified10:18
cwillu_last chance :p10:18
TiMiDook meatwad then did you put the command?10:18
meatwaddo i need to go through grub new and set up root and setup?10:18
TiMiDodo the command i give you and then grub new as root10:19
TiMiDoeverything as root10:19
N6REJSeveas: hula didn't remove cleanly what do I do now?10:19
meatwadyeah i have been10:19
Cryptidcwillu, i have the .bas file i need to compile and make it a .exe file i tried doing wine qb.exe but it dosent work10:19
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TiMiDook then reboot meatwad10:19
cwillu_**plonk**10:19
naliothN6REJ: sudo apt-get --purge remove blah"10:19
damo21cryptid: rewrite the code in C10:20
SuperTails92Cryptid, try dosemu10:20
N6REJty, I knew it was something like that.10:20
meatwadi'm gonna switch the menu.lst entries because that file hasn't been changed so i don't think its went through10:20
TiMiDook10:20
TiMiDochanged it and reboot10:20
damo21Cryptid: better still, write a parser and lexer for qbasic in C10:20
damo21:P10:20
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Cryptiddamo21, alright ne ways i will first try to use DOS-emu10:21
meatwadwow that didn't work i'm having some real bad luck10:21
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TiMiDou reboot already?10:22
SuperTails92Cryptid, enable universe and multiverse, then install dosemu, dosemu-freedos, and xfonts-dosemu10:22
meatwadyea10:22
sorush20why the hell is that the internet connection is never what they say it is.. like 2mb is just 200kb..10:22
meatwadi'm talking on my laptop10:22
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CryptidSuperTails92, ya i am doing it10:22
meatwadits my desktop machine that i'm trying to fix10:22
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TiMiDook meatwad let's do something else then10:22
Zirrushanyone fooled with ndiswrapper much? been trying to get my linksys wmp54g (v1.2) card to work... installed ndiswrapper from source using this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto but I get a fatal error when I try inserting the module10:22
TiMiDogo back with the cd10:22
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meatwadok i'm booting up the live cd again10:22
Zirrush"FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format"10:22
FlorobHy, does someone here know why the caligula themes wich come with gtk+ 2.8 seem to be not packaged for breezy?10:23
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damo21its not much fun writing an equation parser in qbasic10:23
damo21lol10:23
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meatwadi didn't know anyone used qbasic10:24
Cryptidmeatwad, well i do10:24
meatwadhehe10:24
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cwillu_meatwad:  I've seen enterprise apps written in the last 5 years written in ms-pro-basic (i.e., qb's predecessor)10:24
TiMiDodid u boot meatwad?10:24
cwillu_quite disturbing, but they do exist :)10:24
meatwadyou mean like ibm basic?10:24
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cwillu_nomed, the original ms basic10:25
meatwadits still goin TiMiDo10:25
TiMiDook10:25
damo21meatwad: it was my favourite language on my xt808610:25
meatwadoh i've only used ibm basic then qbasic10:25
SuperTails92Feh, I prefer Python anyway.10:25
damo21basica10:25
hyphenatednot gwbasic or basica?10:25
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cwillu_look it up:  integrated support for a form of isam database10:25
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linadhallo dennis10:26
cwillu_I've got the manual at work10:26
damo21it didnt even have a compiler back in those days10:26
damo21only an interpreter10:26
damo21:)10:26
hyphenatedone of those two basic interpreters had a really obscure way of quiting.. I ended up rebooting most of the time because I couldn't remember to type in "system"10:26
damo21lol10:26
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meatwadTiMiDo..i'm booted now10:27
CryptidSuperTails92, cwillu , meatwad if u wanna see the code here is the striped version http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299610:27
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TiMiDook do this chroot /mnt/sysimage10:27
solidgroovewhen is 5.10 going to be out?10:27
meatwadok hold on10:27
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TiMiDo2 more days solidgroove10:27
TiMiDo13th10:27
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abarbacciahow do you restrict a package from beign upgraded?10:27
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cwillu_figures... my 5.04 cd's just got here last week :)10:27
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damo21yes, ctrl-alt-del was sometimes the only solution to get out of an infinite loop or invalid memory poke10:28
R_de_re-evoluciosome trouble with the norwegian repository...10:28
R_de_re-evolucioanyone?10:28
meatwadok10:28
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TiMiDou did it meatwad/10:28
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meatwadyea10:28
R_de_re-evoluciohoary10:28
timberwolfevening all10:28
TiMiDook now do this /sbin/grub-install /dev/hd10:28
Zirrushcan anyone point me in the right direction with a prob I'm getting with ndiswrapper?10:28
R_de_re-evoluciohi---10:28
meatwadjust /dev/hd?10:28
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meatwadwell grub comes up when i boot10:28
TiMiDoyou're partition10:28
ZirrushFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format <--- getting that on modprobe ndiswrapper10:28
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timberwolfshheees10:29
meatwadits just it doesn't boot correctly10:29
TiMiDook10:29
TiMiDowell the device that windows is in,10:29
meatwadok i'll try it10:29
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hyphenatedZirrush: did you build it yourself or something?10:30
R_de_re-evolucioI have a connection to the server at work and i am trying to update my apt sources but it does not work...10:30
lancellori'm downloading breezy right now is it ok if upgrade from cd ??? or shoul i do fresh install10:30
Zeke1TiMiDo, hi again i tried enabling the framebuffer but i still get the same error after reboot10:30
meatwadi cant' believe how bad the past 2 days have been10:30
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Zirrushyeah, made the deb packages for 1.410:30
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sector10does anyone know if disk manager is working to add windows partition??10:30
Zirrushused the SetupNdiswrapperHowto off the site10:30
naliothlancellor: upgrade from the network if you are able10:30
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meatwadi fixed it :)10:30
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meatwadi edited my menu.lst myself10:31
tarzeausector10: cfdisk?10:31
TiMiDou did/10:31
lancelloris it better??10:31
TiMiDoso now it boots?10:31
meatwadyeah10:31
TiMiDocool10:31
abarbacciaguys - how do i tell apt-get to not upgrade a package - i need a degraded version for a compatibility reason10:31
meatwadthe root (hdx,x) were backwards10:31
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TiMiDooh10:31
naliothlancellor: *nix is designed to not have to be "reinstalled" to upgrade10:31
meatwadwhew10:31
Zeke1TiMiDo,  the error is that libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed10:31
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lancellorok i should do acording to this?? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:31
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sector10tarzeau: i mean under menu system: admininstration: disks10:31
TiMiDonp meatwad10:31
meatwadthe whole reason i got in this mess was because i wanted to get rid of x64 windows and windows wanted to write to the mbr of the linux partitions10:32
tarzeausector10: haha, no idea10:32
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mwelancellor, I got some weird problems upgrading, so I ended up backing up my home dir etc and then did a fresh install.10:32
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lancelloror how do i do a network upgrade sorry newbie10:32
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lancellorok10:32
_ack_ackhi all, any recommendations for a nice graphical ftp/scp program for ubuntu?10:33
naliothubotu: tell lancellor about upgrade2breezy10:33
Zeke1TiMiDo, sorry would you be able to help me or are you busy?10:33
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nalioth_ack_ack: gftp10:33
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orion2012_ack_ack: nautilus works fine10:33
lancellorok i'm going to try wishme luck10:33
_ack_acknautilus works fine but i can't set file permissions, the files that are on the remote servers.10:33
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meatwadone thing that annoyed me about nautilus...it wouldn't let me set permissions recursively10:34
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Zeke1as anybody ever gotten this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed???10:35
cwillu_sori, what's the easiest way to ubgrade to breezy?10:35
cwillu_i.e., is there any one click method?  :)10:35
cwillu_sori = so10:35
NotThomMaycwillu: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:35
titaniumapt-get dist-upgrade10:36
titaniumdamn10:36
NotThomMay:P10:36
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Zirrushoh well, gonna reboot and smash some more keys until I get ubuntu online... be back later10:36
NotThomMayyou have to change your apt sources to breezy first though10:36
jwd_anyone have a site to add to source.list to get windowmaker10:36
cwillu_prsumably I have to set repositories first?10:36
R_de_re-evolucioTesting apt sources...10:36
R_de_re-evolucioErr http://no.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg10:36
R_de_re-evolucio  Could not connect to no.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151), connection timed out [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 10:36
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naliothR_de_re-evolucio: please dont paste in here10:36
meatwadis there a clearlooks cairo theme yet?10:36
R_de_re-evolucioanyone?10:37
sector10nalioth: Hi! do you know if disk admin has changed any for setting up windos partition?10:37
orion2012R_de_re-evolucio: try a different mirror10:37
R_de_re-evoluciook sorry...10:37
naliothsector10: i dont know disk admin10:37
R_de_re-evolucioof course i've tried...10:37
R_de_re-evolucioand then sweden worked...10:37
sector10nalioth: last time i used it i was hosed10:37
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xml-blogcwillu, i'm in the middle of same thing in sources.list s/hoary/breezy/g then sudo apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade10:38
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sector10ive done lots of updates since and am current10:38
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R_de_re-evoluciosecurity.ubuntu.com10:38
R_de_re-evoluciothat's the one giving me problems10:38
R_de_re-evoluciomirrors to thta one?10:38
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orion2012R_de_re-evolucio: of course10:38
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sector10i think if you click just the ok tab in disk manager for your windows partition you are in trouble10:39
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orion2012R_de_re-evolucio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive10:39
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sector10it will lock you out10:39
cwillu_xml-blog:  thanks10:39
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yashasi breezy final is coming out tommorrow or thursday ?10:40
xml-blogcill, no problem.10:40
ompaulyasha, in some places the 13th is tomorrow :) it will be out on that date10:40
sector10anybody used disk manager up in system for windows?10:41
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yashahehe... true10:41
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floraok i apt upgraded to breezy10:41
floraweee10:41
floranow what?10:41
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cwillu_what's the status of backports with breezy?10:41
orion2012flora: now nothing10:41
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orion2012flora: that's pretty much it10:41
sector10one click and i can format windows does not seem right10:41
robbkiddCan anybody confirm bug #17508 for me?10:42
floranothing?10:42
floraisn't there supposed to be fun new stuff?10:42
abarbacciai want apt-get to NOT upgrade a specific package10:42
yashaon a more important note anyone ever try to installing hoary on sony s150 laptop, the fonts look really bad, it's not clear and crisp10:42
florawhat gives10:42
abarbacciahow do i do this/10:42
sector10me too10:42
orion2012flora: should reboot for the new kernel10:42
orion2012flora: yeah, you apt-get dist-upgraded?10:42
sector10yasha: i got breezy on my sony its fine10:42
robbkiddabarbaccia: Run the Synaptic Package Manager, highlight the package and select lock version.10:43
floraoh no i only did upgrade10:43
florathx orion201210:43
xml-blogdo we need to dpkg-reconfigure X ?10:43
xml-blogafter breezy?10:43
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bimberixml-blog: some people have had to yes10:43
yashasector but it's not clear though, like i adjusted to to 96 dpi and followed the forum but it's just not clear enough10:43
xml-blogbimberi, thanks10:44
mwexml: the keyboard driver changed to kbd. the font paths changed too10:44
yashaam i missing something ?10:44
ompaulrobbkidd, which app are you getting that in?10:44
naliothxml-blog: you shouldnt have to adjust a thing10:44
cwillu_disty10:44
robbkiddompaul: Am I getting the bug? Firefox.10:44
cwillu_ahh10:44
cwillu_now I figure out why I'm getting random input in x-chat10:44
abarbacciarobbkidd - i wanted to do it via command line (i'm ssh'ed into my mythtv box)10:44
xml-blognalioth, hmm ok I like that answer better ;)10:44
bimberi:)10:44
cwillu_sori, who do I blame if breezy buggers my system?  :)10:45
mweheh10:45
abarbacciarobbkidd, but i got it now - thanks10:45
orion2012cwillu_: yourself10:45
cwillu_okay10:45
sori(me?)10:45
orion2012cwillu_: it's still not final :)10:45
xml-bloglol10:45
cwillu_no10:45
cwillu_sorry10:45
sori:p np10:45
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robbkiddabarbaccia: Alrightie.10:45
cwillu_I keep typing extra characters10:45
ompaulrobbkidd, I would need a web page that has italics on it and that font to check10:45
cwillu_i.e., x-chat autocompletes so to sori for me :)10:45
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sorii see :)10:45
cwillu_sori, I see10:45
cwillu_seethru, I typed "so, I see"10:46
cwillu_gh!!10:46
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cwillu_make it stop!!10:46
meatwadhmm linux boots but now windows doesnt...i can't win10:46
cwillu_seethru=see :)10:46
mweheh10:46
cwillu_I think I need to turn that off10:46
robbkiddonpaul: The text in my first bug comment can be cut and pasted into an HTML file to replicate the bug.  Or just go look at Slashdot.10:46
orion2012so, who likes the new usplash?10:46
yashabtw i gotta compliment u guys ubuntu by far the works better then any distro i tried ;)10:46
robbkiddompaul, even.10:46
cwillu_or at leatst change the completion char to : instead of ,10:46
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robbkiddompaul: Ah. I replicated the bug by manually setting my Firefox preferences to have Proportional = Bitstream Vera Sans at 14 point size.  This is, I believe, the default setting.10:48
ScatterBrainquit $home10:48
ompaulrobbkidd, okay let me look (though if there was a page that one could point at it would be much easier10:48
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R_de_re-evoluciodoes apt always try to reach security.ubuntu.com in order to test(evt. verify!?) the apt sources one has downloaded from the different mirrors? I seem to be blocked out of security.ubuntu.com... and there is no answer in the wiki... anyone?10:49
N6REJnalioth: are you good wth the server side of breezy?10:49
robbkiddompaul: Is there a place I could put the page?  I don't bother with a web presence of my own.10:49
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naliothN6REJ: you can ask, you may get lucky10:49
orion2012R_de_re-evolucio: which release?10:49
ompaulrobbkidd, well if I confirm it I will do it for ay10:50
ompaulya10:50
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Evil_TacoUh why is it when I try to burn a cd, 9 out of 10 fail?10:50
Evil_TacoThis is with Ubuntu10:50
c0rruptburn at a slower speed10:50
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N6REJnalioth: take a look.... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2997  I think this is wrong.10:50
puneypunkhey how would i go about networking my two ubuntu boxes one has a working wifi connection already, and is connected to the other by its eth0 with a Xover cable, do i have to set up a dhcp server or something?10:50
c0rrupt4x works good10:50
cevizogluhow do I install xorg-driver-fglrx driver for the ATI drivers on breezy?  is it doable?  apt says the libstdc++5 package is missing..10:50
yashaso any ideas why my deskop fonts dont look crisp and clear ?10:51
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Answerwho was it that pointed me to the Ultimate Boot CD earlier today??10:51
Evil_TacoSo even though I'm trying to burn a music CD, I'm going to have to burn it at x4 in order to be able to succefully burn a cd using the ubuntu OS?10:51
Answerwho was it that pointed me to the Ultimate Boot CD earlier today??10:51
robbkiddompaul: And, once you have the default font settings (Proportional = Vera Sans @ 14), any page that does not set the font face or size itself will show this problem.10:51
naliothN6REJ: what's wrong with it?10:51
Answerwho was it that pointed me to the Ultimate Boot CD earlier today??10:51
cwillu_are you running at the native resolution?10:51
naliothAnswer: dunno who it was. why?10:51
yashacwillu, what do u mean ?10:51
Answernalioth: it was a virus that tried to install to the Mozilla Firefox plugins directory and launch every type of bad program there is10:52
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N6REJnalioth: the 216 is outside the firewall.  its the ip the router answers to.  Also the ip that the domain resolves too.10:52
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naliothAnswer: ubcd.sourceforge.net10:52
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AnswerWho is logging this channel from earlier today?  I want to know who told me to get the Ultimate Boot CD.  the link was a virus10:52
Answerbastards10:52
c0rruptthat sucks10:52
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naliothAnswer: ubcd.sourceforge.net is not a virus10:53
orion2012Answer: the ubcd is not a virus10:53
c0rruptmaybe the server was compromised10:53
naliothAnswer: see /topic for channel logs10:53
Answernalioth: ubcd.sourceforge.net is also not the link10:53
cal /join #psybnc10:53
caloops10:53
calsorry, stupid xchat10:53
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calis there an offical psybnc help chan?10:53
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mwecevizoglu: I went through hell installing the ati drivers. I ended up having to change gcc version back to 3.3 and doing my own kernel plus linking /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/libGl.so.1.2 (after backing up the original)10:53
Evil_TacoSeriously, in order to successfully burn my MP3 CD I have to burn it on X4?10:53
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Evil_TacoOr is there any way to tweak Ubuntu for that?10:54
cevizoglumwe: oh, I see.  Guess I will wait for the package to show up on breezy then... :(10:54
phoenixbyrdhow can I make a 5 gig blank partition? ;/10:54
mwemwe: and manually downloading the drivers from ati as well10:54
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puneypunkhey how would i go about networking my two ubuntu boxes one has a working wifi connection already, and is connected to the other by its eth0 with a Xover cable, do i have to set up a dhcp server or something?10:54
naliothphoenixbyrd: parted or g- or qt-10:54
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phoenixbyrdI tried qtparted, it gives an error tho10:55
mwecevizoglu: yeah maybe that'll be your best bet10:55
_ack_ackhello one and all! i come here yet again with another problem.10:55
gleesondis there a way to download the thunderbird pkg from the command line?10:55
eracerbitmwe - did u use fglrxconfig10:55
DoomsMachinecan anyone please tell me how to edit my synaptic repositories, file and send me the links !!!10:55
naliothgleesond: apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird10:55
gleesondthanks10:55
_ack_acki want to use opera and dl /home/hai/Desktop/opera_8.50-20050916.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb10:55
_ack_ackerm, now, how do i install it?10:56
eracerbiti cant get dri with my ati card, working only mesa10:56
deFryskdpkg -i <package>10:56
mweeracerbit: no, I used my old xorg.conf from hoary which was set up to use fglrx with a few modifications10:56
deFrysksudo10:56
c0rruptMM10:56
phoenixbyrdnalioth: QTParted says this :10:56
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phoenixbyrdError: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.10:56
phoenixbyrdError: Could not detect file system.10:56
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cranaHello ;p10:56
mweeracerbit: like changing the font paths and the keyboard driver to kbd10:56
ompaulrobbkidd, too much noise here I do not have that font on my machine I have veranda10:56
eracerbithmm what kinda radeon do u have exactly10:57
N6REJnalioth both 192.168.2.4 & 216 are both supposed to be for the public web pages and the .100 for the intranet.10:57
[TvM] how can i "turn off" ..unmount or something the cdrom?10:57
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eracerbityeah the font path change in breezy had me for a minute =x10:57
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N6REJtvm: umount /dev/cdrom10:57
naliothN6REJ: i'm not sure what you're wanting to do10:57
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naliothN6REJ: join #kubuntu-offtopic please10:57
N6REJnalioth CC10:58
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_ack_ackthanks! deFrysk10:58
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[TvM] not working10:58
cali  wonder if #ubuntu-chat exists10:58
eracerbitmwe: any chance i could borrow your xorg config10:58
ompaulcal, #ubuntu-offtopic10:58
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deFryskcal, ubuntu-off-topic10:59
calok ok10:59
mweeracerbit: sure10:59
jwd_hey I am compiling windowmaker but it says libXft2 not found when it is installed10:59
jwd_where is it?10:59
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jwd_find didn't return anything10:59
ompaul:)10:59
deFrysklibXft2-dev10:59
deFryskget that10:59
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eracerbitu can email it to eracerbit at gmail10:59
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naliothjwd_: you need libsft2-dev10:59
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mweeracerbit: give your email and I'll send it. I currently have some problems dcc sending11:00
Evil_TacoHow do I enable DMA acceleration for my CDRW device?11:00
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jwd_excellent11:00
naliothubotu: tell Evil_Taco about dma11:00
jwd_gracias11:00
c0rruptde nada11:00
frickelcan I use multiverse as source if I have breezy11:00
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c0rrupt!breezy11:00
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:00
Evil_Tacothanks :)11:00
gleesondis PyGTK a package that I can install or is it already their?11:00
eracerbitmwe: ty, been fiending for some crack_attack11:01
[TvM] c0rrupt es tuga?11:01
mweeracerbit: or I can paste it at pastebin11:01
eracerbitthats cool too11:01
naliothfrickel: enable universe and multiverse11:02
orion2012frickel: yes11:02
naliothfrickel: you'll be a happier ubuntu user11:02
c0rruptque?11:02
nalioth!es11:02
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:02
c0rruptnien11:02
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eracerbitdot com11:02
eracerbit^_^11:02
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naliotheracerbit: please dont paste in here11:02
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c0rrupthablo espanol11:03
c0rrupty engles11:03
frickelnalioth: could you give me the line for sources.text11:03
naliothc0rrupt: spanish in #ubuntu-es please11:03
eracerbitsoz11:03
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naliothubotu: tell frickel about sources11:03
c0rrupthaha im just kidding.. english is my native language11:03
orion2012just append multiverse to the line that has main11:03
frickelthx11:04
jwd_whats the jpeg package for apt-get11:04
jwd_and or tiff11:04
mweeracerbit: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299811:04
eracerbitjwd: apt-cache search jpeg11:04
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jwd_awesome11:04
bpfanyone having issues with the ia32-libs packages?11:04
jwd_didn't know how to do that11:04
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bpfit has been giving an error for a while now when upgrading but nothing critical11:05
mweeracerbit: it's configured for Synaptics touchpad though ...11:05
orion2012jwd_: synaptic has search functionality as well11:05
eracerbitapt-cache show shows details on a package11:05
Zeke1hi can anyone help me with my ati driver problem11:05
bpftoday i tried to upgrade to breezy and it's holding me up. i apparently need it but can't install it11:05
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bpfapt-get -f install doesn't help either11:05
eracerbitmwe: i have one =)11:05
orion2012bpf: what's blocking it?11:06
eracerbitbut im just going to take bits of it i think11:06
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bpfi finally have given up and tried to return to hoary, but now i'm getting the same error and my machine is unusable!11:06
mweeracerbit: ok11:06
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naliothbpf: tried apt-get -f install ia32-libs   ?11:06
juanitohola11:06
bpfyep11:06
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bpferror creating symbolic link11:07
Zeke1i have a strange error after installing ati drivers can anybody help me?11:07
bpfno such file or directory11:07
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rdario_mxhola11:07
c0rrupthola!11:07
ompaul!es11:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:07
linadis this an ibm11:07
jwd_hey orion11:07
dbugon terminal how i exclude pachs from upgrade?11:07
bpfso, how can I remove/purge this package and move on?11:07
kemikZeke1:  post your error on pastebin or ask a  real question11:07
[TvM] how can i see what module my cdrom is using??11:07
pinucseti have downloaded breezy and its unpacking. How many time will it be unpacking??11:07
jwd_will ubuntu automatically pick up windowmaker11:07
naliothbpf: apt-get --purge remove pkgname11:07
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jwd_or how will I change that?11:07
Zeke1kemik, ok i get this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed after installing ati drivers11:08
bpfnalioth, thanks I'll see if that works11:08
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orion2012jwd_: "pick up"?11:08
linadwill take half an hour11:08
jwd_when the login screen comes up11:08
pinucsetok11:08
jwd_it lets you select11:08
jwd_Gnome11:08
kemikZeke1:  followed the wiki ?11:08
orion2012jwd_: as long as theres an X session entry for it11:08
bpflib32z1 depends on the package11:08
bpfwtf! this is killing me11:08
Zeke1kemik, yeah...my drivers were working fine...i did an update and now i get that error11:09
XTR-II:(11:09
bpfi'm removing that one now, don't know what i'd need it for11:09
orion2012ibGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed after installing ati11:09
orion2012               drivers                                                              ibGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed after installing ati11:09
naliothorion2012: please dont paste11:09
kemikZeke1:  update? to breezy ?11:09
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orion2012accidental, sorry11:10
Zeke1kemik, no i was using breezy from the start...just a normal update11:10
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Zeke1kemik, update as in updating packages etc11:10
orion2012nalioth: you have that bound to a key?11:10
Zeke1kemik,  as in apt-get update and dist-upgrade11:10
naliothorion2012: bound to what key?11:11
kemikwell donno then11:11
orion2012nalioth: please don't paste11:11
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naliothorion2012: muscle memory11:11
gleesondwhen I did the program that made it so I could see my NFTS partition I said yes to make it so only I could wright to it but now I can't delete anything off of it11:11
Zeke1kemik,  what do you mean?11:11
orion2012nalioth: sweet11:11
naliothorion2012: i have to override my script to remove pasters to write it11:11
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julohi11:11
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kemikZeke1:  dunno what todo ...11:12
Zeke1orion2012, i get the same drmMap error11:12
juloI've got a problem with ghostscript: it lacks a /usr/share/ghostscript/fonts folder. Does anyone know which package provides it ?11:12
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kemikgleesond:  you cant write to ntfs11:12
orion2012nalioth: I'm sshed through OS X, the keybindings do weird things to irssi11:12
gleesondyes11:12
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kemikgleesond:  using captive ?11:13
Zeke1orion2012,  what did you do about that drmMap error11:13
gleesondwhats captive11:13
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orion2012Zeke1: I don't get it, it was an accidental highlight that pasted accidentally to the chan11:13
MEtaLpREshow do i use a .run file?11:13
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Zeke1orion2012,  oh ok11:14
[TvM] how can i see what module my cdrom is using??11:14
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R_de_re-evoluciook... when trying to change mirror apt-setup tries to check the sources to security.ubuntu.com (which does not work at the moment) but aptitude (synaptic/apt-get) works fine when running.. So the problem is just when the verification process start after apt-setup is done and the apt list is saved. Anyone having this problem with hoary (it should not be a "problem" but it's better to ask and get it straight..)11:14
Zeke1i am very tempted to re-install11:14
TMMSubliminal, hey! what a surprise :)11:14
Subliminalheh11:14
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TMMSubliminal, please put up your sources.list on the pastebin so I can check for potential breakage due to strange repos :)11:14
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Subliminalsure11:15
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orion2012Zeke1: if you don't use fglrx do things go back to normal?11:15
MEtaLpREsim trying to get bnr2 installed and the .run installer doesnt seem to do anything, and i cant find any prebuilt packages11:15
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Zeke1orion2012,  well yes except i program in c++ and openGL and the program wont run properly without fglrx11:16
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R_de_re-evolucioRe'install is the best option: Tip: have two differnt physical drives. One with the system and the other one mounted as /home - Is easy when reinstalling and you never have to think of problems with drive resizing or anything ;)11:16
kemikZeke1:  doing something special in opengl? :)11:16
R_de_re-evolucioabout the security.ubuntu.com with apt-setup... anyone?11:16
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p3r4m3rwhat do I need to install in order to run .mov files11:16
phoenixbyrdwhy is it hard to get help...11:17
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TMMp3r4m3r, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:17
Seveasp3r4m3r, mplayer+w32codecs11:17
naliothphoenixbyrd: whats your question?11:17
Zeke1kemik, yeah im programming a palace with specific architecture to persia11:17
R_de_re-evoluciop3r4m3r : install mplayer11:17
SubliminalTMM:  http://pastebin.com/39051711:17
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phoenixbyrdnalioth: can I pm u with my problem, easier for us to both read11:17
R_de_re-evoluciowww.ubuntuguide.org will make your life easy11:17
Zeke1orion2012,  but when i remove fglrx the error goes away11:17
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naliothphoenixbyrd: pastebin it11:17
p3r4m3rso could i type apt-get install w32codecs?11:17
naliothR_de_re-evolucio: no it will not11:17
naliothp3r4m3r: no11:17
Zeke1kemik, why do you ask? u an opengl fan?11:18
phoenixbyrdwhat's pastebin?11:18
R_de_re-evoluciono? well with hoary at least... it should11:18
phoenixbyrdah forget it11:18
TMMp3r4m3r, check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats :) its all explained :)11:18
naliothubotu: tell p3r4m3r about w32codecs11:18
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naliothphoenixbyrd: ask in here, so more folks can see11:18
deFryskphoenixbyrd, see /topic11:18
kemikZeke1:  done some stuff init, that's all11:18
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p3r4m3ralright i'l check the wiki11:18
jkiCould someone please explain why there's a tmpfs mounted in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile eating 13MiB of memory? That's a lot for a low-end machine.11:18
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bpfeven with w32codecs, i haven't gotten quicktime movies to play :(11:19
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phoenixbyrdnalioth: I'm having trouble with QTParted... I need to make a blank 5 gig partition11:19
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Zeke1kemik,  yeah this stuff is getting crazy and i need direct rendering and it wont work...thats why im going crazy11:19
TMMSubliminal, ok, just change all the occurences of 'hoary' with 'breezy' and remove backports, and don't let me see that in your sources.list ever again :)11:19
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bpfi get pictures, but no sound11:19
naliothp3r4m3r: check your msgs from ubotu11:19
TMMSubliminal, also comment out the skype line for now11:19
naliothphoenixbyrd: what kind of trouble?11:19
djaktest11:19
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phoenixbyrdnalioth: Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.11:19
phoenixbyrdError: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.11:19
phoenixbyrdError: Could not detect file system.11:19
kemikZeke1:  i'd use hoary or wait for breezy stable ... but it's 2 days away ..11:19
TMMSubliminal, you can have breezy-extras though, that's not bad11:19
MEtaLpREsusing .run files... anyone? little help11:19
kemikZeke1:  i mean, just use a stable system that works :)11:19
TMMSubliminal, just not the line that says hoary-backports11:19
phoenixbyrdnalioth: idk what to do11:20
naliothphoenixbyrd: are you on the machine you are using qtparted on ?11:20
phoenixbyrdnalioth: yea11:20
deFryskMEtaLpREs, nvidia ?11:20
MEtaLpREsati11:20
phoenixbyrdnalioth: and I've tried using yoper's qtparted to do it, and it also won't partition my drive11:20
Zeke1kemik, yeah i had problems with hoary aswell11:20
LokeDKHow do I set the keyboard layout _temporarily_ to US layout? should not be saved11:21
naliothphoenixbyrd: you cant use parted on a machine you are currently on. use the livecd11:21
deFryskMEtaLpREs, usually its sh <blah.run>11:21
MEtaLpREsok11:21
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eriscohey i was wondering, can linux be infected with keyloggers of any type? i am concerned about losing my passwords11:21
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MEtaLpREsworks, thanks deFrysk11:22
naliotherisco: unless you give your passwords out, no11:22
TMMeracerbit, if you run untrusted software, then yes, theoretically it can be infected with keyloggers11:22
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Zeke1oh i have another weird error...everytime i restart i have to maually set my eth1 device to up why is that?11:22
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orion2012Zeke1: check /etc/network/interfaces11:23
julesSo wait 2 days to ship this server to the hosting co with Breezy or go nuts and install the current release tonight? So many decisions...11:23
orion2012Zeke1: make sure auto eth1 is in there11:23
hajikizeedo, make sure the line that says 'auto lo' includes eth1 in it. like this 'auto lo eth1'11:23
orion2012Zeke1: is agpart loaded before the fglrx modprobe?11:23
ompaulerisco, theory and practice are different - however if you asked me which was more secure and Linux was one of the options and some software that runs on between 89 and 91% of the words PCs I would say Linux by a factor of hundreds11:23
Zeke1orion2012,  i dunno how do i check lsmod?11:24
orion2012Zeke1: yes11:24
hubuntuso when breezy is release stable (tried the preview and release candidate at work but i need to run vmware on it so I ended up with hoary...) in two days all it takes is: apt-get update11:24
sambagirli installed a bunch of ham radio things and now i cannot find them. where di they go? i used from universe option in synamtic11:24
hubuntuapt-get upgrade ?11:24
orion2012Zeke1: lsmod | grep agpart11:24
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JaivazWhat was the Java repository?11:24
ompauls/factor/order/ of magnitude11:24
Zeke1orion2012,  oh i have a pci express though11:25
deFryskhubuntu, see the upgradesnotes in /topic11:25
Maikeruahh11:25
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sambagirlbbl chao11:25
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hubuntuok11:26
bpfanyone in here use rapidsvn?11:27
bpfi've always used the command line and wondering if it's useful11:27
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Maikeruis www.sf.net down for neone else?11:27
Maikeruhmm11:27
Maikeruseems to be back up now11:27
primoturboI downloaded a deb file how do I install it?11:27
deFryskdpkg -i11:27
kemikdpkg - debfile.dev11:27
kemikdpkg - debfile.deb11:27
dbugdpkg -i file.deb11:28
primoturbothnx11:28
TylerDurdenCould not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'.11:28
TylerDurden/usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-311:28
TylerDurdenPlease install Motif.11:28
ompaulprimoturbo,11:28
kemikughg11:28
TylerDurdenhow do i fix this?11:28
primoturboyes?11:28
ompaulprimoturbo, before you run it which package is it11:28
kemikTylerDurden:  it says so11:28
Zeke1orion2012,  so any idea what i should do11:28
kemikTylerDurden:  "please install Motif"11:28
yashaanyone used crossover office in breezy ?11:28
TylerDurdenyeah but how?11:28
primoturboa debian package11:28
TylerDurdeni couldnt find it in synpatic11:28
gorthaughi, i've a problem with gdmsetup, it's open a very large window, i'm in breezy installed from de rc cd and upgraded11:28
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ompaulprimoturbo, in a lot of cases .debs should not be run except they are built for your platform explicidly11:28
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primoturboit's for my platform11:29
ompaulprimoturbo, better if it is not available to do source, which package is it11:29
ompaulprimoturbo, what you running sarge?11:29
djakhi! (salut11:29
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djak I would like deb http://user:pass@seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas section . please11:29
cwillu_um, should I be worried about the pages and pages of cannot fstat xxxxxxxx11:29
cwillu_?11:29
primoturboI was running sarge11:29
primoturboi'm on ubuntu now11:29
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meatwadhow many people here run 64 bit ubuntu11:30
ompaulprimoturbo, then a .deb from debian is not for you11:30
TylerDurdeni installed opera but how can i tell it to show in Applications?11:30
ompaulprimoturbo, which package is it?11:30
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orion2012Zeke1: if your kernel was built with agp, agpgart will need to be active11:30
naliothdjak: what did you want from seveas' repo?11:30
naliothTylerDurden: use smeg11:30
primoturboI already installed it works so don't worry about it11:30
Antonio77hi11:30
djakI not authentifications.   I would like deb http://user:pass@seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas11:31
cwillu_umm,11:31
cwillu_help!11:31
julesAnybody installed on a dell 1850 with the PERC4ei?11:31
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cwillu_dist-upgrade is doing weird things11:31
florai'm having a hard time getting ubuntu to boot on a dell lattitude d610 via docking station and external monitor11:31
XsXsshould i put jobs that i get paid under the table on my resume?11:31
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florait boots, but doesn't appear on the external monitor11:31
floraanyone experienced that?11:31
orion2012Zeke1: cat /boot/config* | grep CONFIG_AGP11:31
ompaulprimoturbo, okay, but please be aware the only reason I said this is because we have had people do strange and not so wonderful things :)11:32
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Subliminalengl python-parted python-pexpect python-pgsql python-pisock python-pyopenssl python-pyorbit11:32
Subliminal  python-reportlab python-simpletal python-sqlite python-syck python-tk python-twisted python-xdg python-xml python-xmpp11:32
Subliminal  python2.4 python2.4-dbus python2.4-egenix-mxdatetime python2.4-egenix-mxproxy python2.4-egenix-mxstack11:32
Subliminal  python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools python2.4-egenix-mxtools python2.4-eunuchs python2.4-examples python2.4-gdbm python2.4-geoip11:32
Subliminal  python2.4-glade2 python2.4-gnome2 python2.4-gtk2 python2.4-id3lib python2.4-imaging python2.4-imaging-sane python2.4-librdf11:32
Subliminal  python2.4-libxml2 python2.4-libxslt1 python2.4-minimal python2.4-musicbrainz py-pycurl python2.4-pyopenssl python2.4-pyorbit11:32
Subliminal  p11:32
ompaulSubliminal, no pasting11:32
Subliminal#oops11:32
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orion2012See, I'm not the only one11:32
tristanmikeSubliminal, don't paste in here please11:32
deFryskSubliminal, bad boy11:32
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Khaaaaaanhey guys11:32
dinflood flood!11:32
ompaulSubliminal, paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:32
zoexiihey, how do I get help for the MemoServ?  I have just been told that I have a memo.   How do I read it?11:32
KhaaaaaanQuick question11:32
gorthaughi, i've a problem with gdmsetup, it's open a very large window, i'm in breezy installed from the i386 rc cd and upgraded11:32
TylerDurdenwhere r most programs instralled to?11:32
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KhaaaaaanK3B is making audio cds that play on my comp, but not in my cd player11:33
C-KeenTylerDurden: /usr/bin11:33
mustard5zoexii, try running 'Mutt' in console11:33
Khaaaaaanwhat is going on?11:33
XsXszoexii /msg memoserv help11:33
ompaulTylerDurden, in bin directorys /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin11:33
mustard5oh that type of memo :)11:33
mustard5hehe11:33
TylerDurdenthanks11:33
TylerDurdenwhat about icons?11:33
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deFryskgorthaug, run sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg ans leave the defaults and set the resolutions correctly11:33
XsXsmustard5 :P11:34
C-KeenTylerDurden: /usr/share/pixmaps11:34
orion2012TylerDurden: /usr/share/icons11:34
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ompaulTylerDurden, all over the place; in a teminal do this command to find files anywhere if you have some clue as to their name: updatedb11:34
calvinCan anyone tell me how to in ubuntu release my IP so I can move my DSL modem to another computer?11:34
djak_help!! i would deb http://user:pass@seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas11:34
naliothTylerDurden: smeg allows you to choose icons11:35
Tomcat_calvin: sudo ifdown <interface>, where interface is the one the DSL modem is using.11:35
ompaulTylerDurden, that command creates a database that is queried with the command: locate so then you do this "locate icons" have a nice day11:35
TylerDurdennalioth yeah i know but i dont know where to point it to11:35
Tomcat_calvin: Or use the network manager to deactivate the network card.11:35
deFryskdjak, you need a pass for that11:35
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naliothTylerDurden: or right click on the opera executable and choose an icon for it11:35
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deFryskdjak, ask seveas wheb hes around11:35
djakwhere?11:35
deFryskwhen*11:35
calvinthanks11:35
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joetheoddHey, whats a nice FTP client?11:36
zoexiihello, hopefuly this has an easy answer, synaptic has told me that it cannot 'stat' any of the package lists.  I can not see anything that isn't already installed on my computer.  what is causing this problem.11:36
naliothdjak: what did you want from seveas?11:36
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TylerDurdenhow do i know if a program came with an icon or not?11:36
orion2012joetheodd: ncftp11:36
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djakfreenx breezy11:36
joetheoddzoexii: I think that the repositories are down if it says that11:36
djakfreenx sur breezy11:36
naliothdjak: then you'll have to wait for seveas11:37
djakand other truc11:37
naliothdjak: i can point you to java and w32codecs but you'll need Seveas for the other stuff11:37
zoexiijoetheodd, alright, is there a way for me to confirm that? aside frorm trying later...11:37
tristanmikeTylerDurden, check the /usr/share directory and see if your progam has a folder, it may have an icon in it11:38
joetheoddzoexii: I'm downloading something from the repositry right now so I guess its not down. Not sure what to do =/11:38
deFryskdjak, reason is the amount of bandwith seveas has available11:38
TylerDurdenhow come when i search for a program it shows /home/username/.program name. but i cant see it in natulis11:38
[TvM] what codecs i need to play mp3?11:38
tristanmikeTylerDurden, because the "." means hidden11:38
TylerDurdenoh ok11:38
TylerDurdeni think i know how to unhide11:38
orion2012joetheodd: there are many mirrors, zoexii's mar be down11:38
Tomcat_[TvM] : gstreamer0.8-mad package11:38
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[TvM] i cant find it with apt11:39
orion2012may*11:39
deFrysk!tell [TvM]  about restricted formats11:39
zoexiiorion2012, can I change mirrors then?11:39
tristanmikeTylerDurden, ls -a or check/uncheck under View in Nautlius11:39
orion2012zoexii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive11:39
tristanmike*Nautilus11:39
naliothubotu: tell [TvM]  about mp311:39
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TylerDurdenshow hidden files is checked but is till dont see them11:39
cwillu_what should I do with updated config files?11:39
naliothubotu: tell [TvM]  about sources11:39
djakhow to make? deFrysk11:40
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Subliminal /msg TMM gkrellm says around 130k/s11:40
Subliminalbugger11:40
deFryskdjak, to make what ?11:40
tristanmikeTylerDurden, if you're in your /home/<User> you should11:40
TylerDurden=/ doesnt show in smeg11:41
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TylerDurdennvm11:41
TylerDurdengot it11:41
deFryskwho wants to see hidden files ?11:41
tristanmikedeFrysk, he's gone, think he got it11:42
deFryskhehe11:42
[A] ndy80hi, I'm trying to repair a system. I booted from a live cd, mounted the partition, chrooted to that partition, and tried to run lilo. but I get permission denied... how can I fix it?11:43
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djakit lack do not nxagent to install freenx11:43
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nalioth[A] ndy80: did you follow this?11:44
test34andy, use sudo11:44
naliothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:44
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fryfrogCould anyone help me analyze an X configuration issue on a lappy with an ati mobility 200M chipset?  I'm having trouble finding what is "wrong" in the output log, which can be seen at http://pastebin.com/39055411:46
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joetheoddWhats a easy-to-use program to make and write an ISO image?11:47
fryfrogcdrecord?11:47
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fryfrogor gui?11:47
xorionhola11:47
fryfrogi hear "k3b" is good11:47
Hackphilhi to all11:47
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xorionk3b is very good11:48
muepand gnomebaker also11:48
mueponly a bit simplier11:48
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naliothk3b has the most features11:49
muepyes11:50
Rev-Marcis #wine the help channel for wine?11:50
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debuggerhi11:50
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fryfrogeither that or drink :)11:50
muepbut one might prefer gnomebaker if he's using gnome11:50
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wrtpeepshi, how do i install the ATI drivers? :)11:51
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LasseL!ati11:51
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:51
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wrtpeepscheers LasseL11:51
vbgunzI have an interesting question... I've put an installation of Ubuntu onto my NW-HD1 Sony Walkman's USB2 HDD. I dedicated 5GB to Ubuntu on this USB HDD *but* I cannot access it because A. the HDD is not bootable and B. Even if it were bootable, my PC doesn't support it :(... Is there a way, to insert, the live CD and use it as a jump start?11:52
wrtpeepsThis page does not exist yet11:52
LasseLand if I am still talking in 5 minutes the latest breezy/freezy update fixed that fglrx drivers are freezing on older ati cards11:52
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LaserLineDoes the Breezy Kerner Support INotify ?11:52
LaserLineBreezy Kernel*11:53
KelraithI know I did this to myself, but I updated from hoary to breezy now I cant access my media slot on my hp printer.. Can anyone give me a clue11:53
Kelraith?11:53
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anchovieHey, I'm trying to play DVD using VLC. I inserted the disc, opened VLC, then File -> Open Disc -> Disc Tab -> DVD(menus) Radio Button and clicked Ok, but nothing happenes. The VLC was working great last night, when I just logged on 30 minutes ago I got prompt to update my packages from the Update Manager, so I'm not sure if that's what's causing the problem. Anybody have any ideas?11:54
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mei'm on breezy and i'm trying to get w32codecs. can anyone help me11:54
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naliothubotu: tell me about w32codecs11:54
naliothme you'll have to change your nick11:55
foXgamerevening all!11:55
LaserLineDoes Anyone here know if the Ubuntu Breezy or Hoary Kernel suppory Inotify ? (it's for beagle)11:55
naliothme m/m11:55
nalioth!w32codecs11:55
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)11:55
meok i'll register11:55
mewhat would i type to install it from those locations?11:55
fryfrogCould anyone help me analyze an X configuration issue on a lappy with an ati mobility 200M chipset?  I'm having trouble finding what is "wrong" in the output log, which can be seen at http://pastebin.com/39055411:55
naliothme: the bot cant see you to send you info with that nick11:55
naliothme: download the pkg and install it. it's a deb11:56
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tristanmikeme, /msg nickserv register11:56
meso i would do: sudo dpkg whatever.deb ?11:56
enigmaticsudo dpkg -i *.deb11:57
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mehow can i change my name? this one's already registered11:57
enigmatictype /nick newnickhere11:58
ompaulme /nick newnickname11:58
methanks11:58
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anchovieAnybody have any idea with my DVD problem? =)11:58
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ompaulme now type >> /msg nickserver register <some-less-important-password>11:59
ompaulsnet now type >> /msg nickserver register <some-less-important-password>11:59
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foXgameranchovie: Do you have libdvdcss installed?11:59
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tristanmikethat one taken too eh?12:00

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