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x10yeah :P12:00
x10this one isnt12:00
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Hackphilwho knows when the ubuntu new version will be ready and how to get it?12:01
Hackphilthx12:01
njanHackphil, google12:01
njanthx12:01
LasseLheh, breezy is still freezy12:01
HackphilI'm a newbie with Linux12:01
tristanmikeHackphil, oct 13, and you can download or get it sent to you12:01
foXgamerIn 2 days Hackphil.12:01
naliothHackphil: see /topic12:01
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njanHackphil, it isn't hard to research, though.12:01
Hackphilsorry but... I'm a real newbie ;-)12:02
naliothHackphil: in 2 days12:02
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anchoviefoXgamer: I don't think I have that packet in my repository, did a search in Synaptic for dvdcss and it came up with libdvdread3 which I have installed. I don't think that's the problem though, 'cause it was working great last night till today when I just logged on about 40 minutes ago I got prompt to update my packages by the Update Manager, and I did, so I'm not sure if that's what's causing the problem.12:02
naliothubotu: tell anchovie about dvd12:02
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RedGhosthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes12:03
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RedGhostso i wont need to do a new install?12:03
foXgamernalioth: I thinkg anchovie doing his upgrade has caused the problem. Is there a way to do a 'roll-back'?12:03
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naliothfoXgamer: rollback to hoary? not easy12:04
VR^hey guys, how can i create a new partition from the unused space on my hd?12:04
FangoWhats the main diffs between breezy and hoary?12:04
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FangoIs thewre a changelog?12:04
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naliothVR^: use qt- or g- parted12:04
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anchoviefoXgamer and nalioth: The update was done in Breezy, it wasn't an upgrade, just an simple package update from the update manager.12:04
naliothanchovie: then i have no clue12:04
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pupilHow do I stop a process running in a terminal?12:05
cwillu_dist-updating to breezy, getting questio12:05
cwillu_buh12:05
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cwillu_ignore that :p12:05
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cwillu_pupil:  ctrl+z?\12:05
sobersabrehi guys, i am looking for: 1. kwin-baghira 0.7 2. latest skype for ubuntu. where can these be found ?12:05
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VR^nalioth: gparted won't let me create a new partition12:05
foXgameranchovie: Only thing I can suggest is to see if you can undo the upgrade and see if that works. Did you reboot after the upgrade?12:05
anchoviefoXgamer: Yes I did.12:05
jodecan someone tell me how to get realplayer on breezy. I have the file.12:06
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naliothVR^: it wont?12:06
VR^nalioth: nope, the menu is greyed out12:06
sobersabremy q. is about breezy too!12:06
TylerDurdenseethru,12:06
FangoWhats the main diffs between breezy and hoary?12:06
FangoIs thewre a changelog?12:06
anchoviefoXgamer: I point VLC to open DVD at dvd://, is that correct or should it be dev:///dvd or something like that?12:06
naliothVR^: did you start it with "sudo" ?12:06
sobersabreVR^, are you running this as root ?12:06
VR^nalioth: yes, sudo open gparted12:06
sobersabrenalioth, :)12:06
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sobersabreVR^, run: sudo gparted12:07
naliothanchovie: it should be /dev/cdrom0 or something12:07
foXgameranchovie: It will be whatever the dvd is mounted to. Have you tried running through the terminal to see what error messages you get? That should give you a clue.12:07
anchovienalioth: Okay, let me give that a try.12:07
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VR^sobersabre: yeah, i still cannot do it12:07
anchoviefoXgamer: No I have not, how do I run it in the terminal? What are the specific commands?12:07
sobersabrewhich partition are you trying to edit ?12:08
sorush20why does amrok need to run sound though gstreamer or arts and not directly to alsa..12:08
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VR^hda112:08
foXgameranchovie: If you are using, say, mplayer, then you would type mplayer <file>12:08
sobersabresorush20, it can, but then it will lock the device.12:08
VR^my install is on there12:08
VR^my hoary install12:08
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naliothVR^: you need to use a livecd, cuz you cant modify mounted partitions12:09
sobersabreVR^, I didn't mean which device name. what is the File System Type ?12:09
VR^i assume thats why12:09
seliniumis there a way of sending email from the command line?12:09
anchoviefoXgamer: How do I check which path is my DVD mounted under?12:09
seliniumhi nalioth :)12:09
VR^sobersabre: sorry, ext312:09
sobersabreVR^,  are you editing a mounted partition ? :)12:09
naliothHowdy selinium12:09
VR^sobersabre: yes, i guess i'll try what nalioth suggested12:10
foXgameranchovie: Have a look in your file manager under the /mnt directory. It will show up there.12:10
sorush20sobersabre: I keep getting the error message that the device is not found.. however.. the device is hw,0,1 and this work in xmms, but not in amarok can you help12:10
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foXgameranchovie: Oh yeah! If you get it working, can you let me know? I'm still trying to get mine to work. lol12:10
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VR^nalioth, sobersabre: so i need to unmount it when i run the livecd, then just resize and create a new partition, right?12:10
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Roloum12:11
RoloSo I'm in.12:11
LasseLwhy does it take 2-3 minutes to log in to breezy?12:11
foXgamerhey Rolo12:11
Rololo :>12:12
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anchoviefoXgamer: I tried to run "vlc dvd://" in terminal and it says "libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.9 from http://dvd.sf.net12:12
anchovielibdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.12:12
anchovielibdvdread: Can't stat12:12
anchovieNo such file or directory12:12
anchovielibdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD12:12
anchovielibdvdread: Can't stat12:12
anchovieNo such file or directory12:12
RoloThis is my first time trying to do anything in Linux (Ubuntu), so if you're not nice to me, I'll go back to being an MS whore and it'll all be very sad and we'll all cry12:12
naliothVR^: when you boot into the livecd, no drive will be mounted12:12
anchovie[00000264]  dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source:12:12
sobersabreLasseL, from which point ?12:12
anchovie[00000263]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'12:12
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VR^nalioth: how do i proceed then?12:12
LasseLsobersabre, gdm to I see the desktop12:12
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naliothRolo: you'll cry, not us, lol12:13
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Rolohehe.  It's worked so far :p12:13
naliothVR^: boot into the ubuntu live cd and run gparted12:13
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sobersabreLasseL, are your home files on NFS ?12:13
VR^nalioth: right, and then?12:13
RoloCan I see NTFS shares from here?12:13
LasseLsobersabre, my gnome session is configured to launch xchat first, I see that 2-3 minutes metacity12:13
LasseLsobersabre, nope12:13
frickelhow can I force to delete a directory?12:13
foXgamerRolo: We are very nice in here :)12:13
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VR^nalioth: oh ok, i see now. no need to unmount12:13
Rolohehe.  result :>12:13
VR^just resize and so on12:13
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naliothubotu: tell Rolo about ntfs12:14
Rolo:sips12:14
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sobersabreLasseL, what do you load on your logon except xchat ?12:14
VR^nalioth: thanks a lot12:14
VR^bbl12:14
naliothselinium: alcohol in #ubuntu-offtopic please12:14
seliniumRoll12:14
LasseLsobersabre, in "Startup programes" I have xchat and xmodmap12:14
cevizogluhey, save the margaritas until the 13th!  heehee, my favorite number too12:14
seliniumnalioth: ok, he was wondering how friendl we are in here.12:15
frickelwhat console order to I need to force to delete a directory?12:15
SeveasIt's Oct 12 here12:15
sobersabreLasseL, analyze your ~/.xsession-errors file.12:15
SeveasOne day to Breezy :)12:15
seliniumHi Seveas :)12:15
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | 1.5 days to Breezy! | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
LasseLsobersabre, in "Current session" I see: gnome-session-properties, xmodmap, metacity, gnome-volume-manager, gnome-panel, nautilus, update-notif, gnome-cups, gaim, xchat12:15
seliniumRolo: yes you can read ntfs12:15
kbrooksSeveas: 1.5?12:15
fryfrogtell fryfrog about dvd12:15
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kbrooksSeveas: 2 days here12:16
Seveaskbrooks, I'm expecting breezy ISO's around noon12:16
LasseLsobersabre, ** (gnome-cups-icon:7373): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 103012:16
foXgamerhehe. Let's all hope that all of us are not staying up for the release, otherwise I can see network problems!12:16
seliniumkbrooks: deends where you are on the planet!12:16
kbrooksSeveas: around noon?!?12:16
naliothRolo: ubotu sent you a msg12:16
seliniumdepends*12:16
anchoviefoXgamer: I got it to work, first type "mount" in your terminal and look for where your DVD is mounted.12:16
kbrooksSeveas: noon tomorrow?12:16
naliothanchovie: please dont paste in here12:16
fryfrogis there a command to make the bot tell me about dvd? :)12:16
naliothfryfrog: /msg ubotu ubotu12:17
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fango!dvd12:17
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras12:17
pupilnalioth, now I can't sudo.,. the sudo process is stuckl when I try and use sudo it freezes12:17
RoloHiya... um... can someone explain what I do with this FSTAB file about mounting NTFS?  I can't just run it.  Can I find some info elsewhre if not?12:17
Seveaskbrooks, noon as in in about 36 hours12:17
foXgameranchovie: cool. So it is working then from the terminal but not from the gui?12:17
KenseyI'm having all kinds of fun trying to move my data onto a new partition12:17
sobersabreLasseL, logout, remove this file, login from console, run: touch ~/.xsession-errors; logout, and login via gdm12:17
ktogias_frickel, rm -Rf dirpath will recursively remove the dirpath directory with all its contents/subdirs. USE WITH CAUTION.12:17
anchoviefoXgamer: Yeah... strange.12:17
frickelthx12:17
Kenseyanybody ever tried to move /usr/lib to a new partition?12:17
fango!tell Rolo ubuntuguide12:17
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fango!ubuntuguide12:17
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.12:17
Trashcanfrickel: rm -rf will wipe it out without second notice12:17
sobersabreguys, my suspend to RAM started to work !!!! whom shall I thank ?12:18
Rolo!faq12:18
ubotusomebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/12:18
fryfrog!hoary-extras12:18
uboturumour has it, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:18
foXgameranchovie: Then it sounds like a problem with the startup of the program. Have a look at the configuration file for the program and see if there are any anomolies12:18
naliothy'all stop with the bot12:18
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nalioth!msg the bot12:18
cwillu_!breezy-extras12:18
ubotucwillu_: Are you on ritalin?12:18
cwillu_?12:18
Seveas!faq =~ s/ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/doc.ubuntu.com/12:18
ubotuSeveas: OK12:18
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cwillu_cute12:18
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Xanadusobersabre for the first time my hibernate works too :)12:18
KelraithI would like to add a cron job how do I do it?12:18
RoloSo.  What's the significance of an fstab file?  It's some sort of os script?12:18
seliniumRolo: what help do you need?12:18
cwillu_!backports12:19
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:19
XanaduKelraith: crontab -e12:19
anchoviefoXgamer: Where can I look for the configuration file for the program?12:19
SeveasRolo, it defines the mountpoints of all your filesystems12:19
Kelraiththanks..12:19
Kenseyfstab is the file that tells your OS where the various partitions are and what they mount as12:19
RoloOkay.12:19
Seveasand the location of your swaps12:19
XanaduKelraith: To list current crontabs, crontab -l12:19
RoloSo, do I copy it somewhere?12:19
sobersabrehibernate worked earlier here, but suspend to RAM was not returning me into X.12:19
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seliniumOk for a private message Rolo?12:19
RoloGo nuts :>12:19
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fangoBreezy or Hoary which to choose..suppose 2 days to go there is gonna belittle or no major changes to Breezy, will I be able to update to stable then?12:19
KiraHow do I get a topic list of ubotu?12:19
sobersabreLasseL, what's up ?12:19
Kris_kHey i have a crappy laptop and it doesnt allow booting from the CD rom so how would i go about installing from a cd lmao, it has windows 96 plus! on it lol12:20
foXgameranchovie: I would say that it would be in your home directory. Use file manager and select view hidden files and look for the program dir. it will start with a period (.)12:20
Seveasfango, go for Breezy :)12:20
Xanadusobersabre my hibernate didn't work at all on Hoary even with much work, creating special partitions etc. Now it works out of the box on a Sony Vaio with a Maverick bios12:20
seliniumKira: /topic12:20
kbrooks!faq12:20
ubotuwell, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/12:20
LasseLsobersabre, logged out, removed .xsession-error, now avaiting login to complete12:20
FalstiusKris_k: smart boot manager might be a good place to start.  It makes a 3.5" disk that you can then use to boot other media12:20
kbrooksWhat's the C in that link12:20
sobersabreXanadu, VAIO should've worked too...12:20
sobersabrewhich video card ?12:21
Kelraiththeres cron.daily the stuf in there is not in crontab -l12:21
Kris_kFalstius is there a way to do it from dos ?12:21
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sobersabreLasseL, you can look at the file from console with tail -f ~/.xsession-errors12:21
fryfrogis there no breezy-backports?12:21
fangoSeveas, 20 Gb HD, new Install 256MB ram, swp 512MB, 10GB /home , Rest / - sufficient partitioning ya reckon?12:22
ajmitch_fryfrog: backport from where?12:22
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sobersabreand watch which message is reappearing too frequently12:22
Xanadusobersabre dude i tried and tried on breezy - closest i got was for it to hibernate and crash on restart. Apparently the Maverick bios is a bit tricky. I even went as far as building the latest ACPI stuff12:22
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fryfroghttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/?12:22
FalstiusKris_K, you can use lilo from dos12:22
fryfrogmaybe i just have the wrong url?12:22
FalstiusI can't tell you the details though.12:22
Kris_klol k12:22
Kris_kill try smart boot12:22
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Seveasfango, swap's a bit on the edge but ok12:22
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Jalsdjkhi12:22
Jalsdjkwhat's a good FTP client that's already installed in ubuntu?12:23
fangoSeveas, recommend for swp, match RAM?12:23
Jalsdjkone that I can type "apt-get" to get...12:23
SeveasJalsdjk, places -> connect to server12:23
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fango256MB?12:23
Kenseyanybody here ever tried to move *part* of /usr off the root partition to a new partition?12:23
foXgamerJalsdjk: What desktop are you using?12:23
sobersabreXanadu, you mean you've tried to remove ACPI bugs with intel bios compiler ?12:23
Seveasfango, I recommend (swap + mem) == at least 76812:23
JalsdjkSeveas: ah ok12:23
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Xanadufryfrog i don't think there are any breezy backports yet because it's currently bleeding edge.12:23
Jalsdjkquestion12:23
Seveasbut preferably more12:23
Jalsdjkit doesn't let me edit the files :\12:23
xfelonHi12:23
Kenseyor, is there a way to extend an ext3 partition into empty space before its beginning without breaking things?12:23
Jalsdjkit allows me to overwrite them and view them..12:23
RoloSelenium> I need to regiuster to PM you back!  DOing it now12:23
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fryfrogXanadu: ah, thanks12:23
Jalsdjkbut somehow doesn't let me edit...12:24
Xanadusobersabre i built the latest acpi from source thinking that it might help12:24
foXgamerJalsdjk: I use gftp which allows you to edit files12:24
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fangoSeveas, And I can upgrade to stable when its released..12:24
cafuego_!test12:24
ubotuPassed.12:24
xfelonInstead of ordering ubuntu can i download it and burn it?12:24
naliothXanadu: backports are 'back ported' from the next version. hence, no backports due to no dapper12:24
Seveasfango, yes12:24
cafuego_xfelon: Yes.12:24
Xanadusobersabre anyhow it works a charm on breezy12:24
woodwizzleHow do I make totem my default CD player instead of Sound Juicer?12:24
naliothfango: easily12:24
xfelonWhere?12:24
SeveasVERY easy - it does that for you :)12:24
fryfrogmainly i am just trying to figure out a few things :)12:24
fangoSeveas, coll, thanks..off I go..12:24
sobersabreLasseL, what's UP ?12:24
cafuego_xfelon: www.ubuntu.com -> right hand side (Breezy badger)12:24
sobersabrefound the bastard ?12:24
xfelonithansk12:24
LasseLsobersabre, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/300212:24
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phiqtiongood evening, last night i downloaded the breezy RC. and im currently in install phase 2. the problem is, every single file is downloading is giving me this error: "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: Incompatible medium installed" Ubuntu is being installed on a HP dv1340us laptop. any suggestions/opinions?12:25
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fangoDoes anyone know will ubuntuguide be done to mirror breezy as it is for hoary?12:25
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Xanaduphiqtion have you tried burning the cd again?12:25
debuggerI just installed ubunto 5.04, and want to upgrade to 5.10, is there a way of only installing the package ubuntu-minimal?12:25
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Seveasfango, i hope ubuntuguide will be gone12:25
afaikthanks ubuntu12:25
afaikfor the broken box you gave me12:25
Seveasubuntu has a good faq now while ubuntuguide is crap12:26
fangoSeveas, I was quite happy with it when I started with Ubuntu12:26
afaikfirefox crashes more than IE ever did on me12:26
afaikonly on ubuntu12:26
naliothfango: do you have prior linux experience?12:26
foXgamerafaik: You using breezy?12:26
fryfrogdebugger: if you switch to the breezy repository, then do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it would update no?12:26
LasseLsobersabre, there are no timings on but I *think* it took a long time between line 21 and 2312:26
Seveasafaik, if you come here just to rant, please leave or file bugs.12:26
phiqtionXanadu, why burn the cd again? it's currently on install phase 2. which it isn't using any CD at all.12:26
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Kiraselinium: I didn't mean the channel topic. I meant the list of triggers for ubotu.12:27
fangonalioth, bits and pieces, maybe approaching halfway between newb and intermediate12:27
naliothubotu tell Kira about ubotu12:27
debuggerfryfrog, yes it will.  but I want to have a minimal install o ubuntu, and just saw the "ubuntu-minimal", so I though it would be nice to install that instead of ubuntu-base.12:27
meirm_sorry if you already answered me,what tv viewer is available from the apt for Breezy Badger?12:27
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cwillu_I'm doing a dist-upgrade... is there any way I can tell it to overwrite all config files?12:27
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RoloSo... can anyone tell me what to do with this winmac fstab file?12:27
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naliothfango: the ubuntuguide has info in it that WILL kill an ubuntu box, if not understood12:28
Seveasubotu, tell nalioth about yourself12:28
Seveas(just to show that cool feature :))12:28
naliothRolo: read it in your text editor12:28
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[LethAL] rofl Seveas12:28
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Xanadu_oops, i died - did i miss anything?12:28
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foXgamermerim: There are many programs that will alow you to watch tv. xine is supposed to be good12:28
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phiqtionXanadu, why burn the cd again? it's currently on install phase 2. which it isn't using any CD at all.12:28
Kiranalioth: thanks12:28
sobersabreLasseL, you can repeat the exercise, when running a little script with infinit loop of running date each 10 seconds in the background..12:28
Xanadu_phiqtion what was the error again?12:28
Trashcanubotu: tell me about seveas12:29
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batomsdoes any else here login to their ubuntu machine using winbind via pam12:29
phiqtionXanadu_, good evening, last night i downloaded the breezy RC. and im currently in install phase 2. the problem is, every single file is downloading is giving me this error: "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: Incompatible medium installed" Ubuntu is being installed on a HP dv1340us laptop. any suggestions/opinions?12:29
Trashcanlol seveas12:29
sobersabreLasseL, but have you configured cups ?12:29
[LethAL] !tell me about Trashcan12:29
meirm_foxgamer: xine is not in the apt sources for the  Breezy Badger12:29
[LethAL] :P12:29
batomswhen i first start my machine there is a delay before winbind can resolve my login12:29
Seveasbot playing in private chat or #ubuntu-offtopic please12:29
Rolonalioth> oh my word, thank you, that was easy :>12:29
foXgamermeirm: Try gxine. That is in there. It is for gnome though12:29
Trashcanhey lethal :)12:29
cwillu_"apt-get dist-upgrade"  Is there some way I can tell it to overwrite config files so I can leave this thing to run?12:29
Rolonalioth> sorry, they just looked like comments when I skimmed them...12:29
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LasseLsobersabre, not really sure, I did 2 installs on my first weekend with ubuntu a few months back and I don't remember if it was in the first or second one I configured the printer :)12:30
naliothRolo: comments in shell scripts can be informative12:30
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Rolonalioth> so I see...12:30
phiqtiongood evening, last night i downloaded the breezy RC. and im currently in install phase 2. the problem is, every single file is downloading is giving me this error: "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: Incompatible medium installed" Ubuntu is being installed on a HP dv1340us laptop. any suggestions/opinions?12:30
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sobersabreLasseL, the configuration of the printer or disabling printing system seems the solution12:30
Xanadu_phiqtion that's way beyond me i'm afraid - I suggest u report it as a bug. I did manage to install breezy with a busted CD tho. Did u try restart the install?12:31
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foXgamerphiqtion: It sounds like the incorrect drivers were installed for the cd drive that you are using12:31
tristanmikephiqtion, you don't have to keep posting your question, if someone can help they will, please do not flood the channel12:31
LasseLcan anyone come up with a good oneliner that will pipe the current time to a file every second?12:31
joetheodd[LethAL] : <3 =)12:31
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[LethAL] ?12:31
joetheodd[LethAL] : Sup?12:31
phiqtiontristanmike, i am not flooding the channel. i am re-posting12:31
sobersabreLasseL, to disable the cups run: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop12:31
TylerDurdenseethru, are you here?12:31
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[LethAL] joetheodd, This isn't topical12:32
phiqtiontristanmike, flooding is 3 lines per second12:32
Xanadu_LasseL put it in cron12:32
nnonixIs there a specific time that breezy-final will be available or will it be "sometime" on the 13th?12:32
tristanmikephiqtion, whatever, such a large post will be seen, no need to post a few minutes apart12:32
xml-bloghi all, anyone up for helping out with a breezy upgrade problem? I am halfway through the upgrade and it errored out dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)12:32
xml-blog.12:32
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phiqtiontristanmike, thank you for you're hard work trying to be a team member12:33
naliothphiqtion: yes, please wait at least 5 minutes between posts of the same question12:33
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tristanmike=)12:33
xml-blogi am running a gnome session but it's dying trying to update kde libs12:33
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Xanadu_xml-blog - that's a network error. I'm very familiar with them due to my dodgy internet connection. Just hit update again and it will start from where it left off12:33
foXgamerxml-blog: How did you do the upgrade? Through apt-get or using the upgrade gui?12:33
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LasseLsobersabre, thanks a bunch!12:33
xml-blogI already have all the packages downloaded I did apt-get dist-upgrade12:34
batomsso noone else has problems loggin into ubuntu when authorizing against winbind?12:34
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ice_Hey, can anybody help me real quick?12:34
LasseLsobersabre, can you tell me which file controls what launces in the session. I get more programs launched than I can see in the gui12:34
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FatDarrelhello there ?12:34
xml-blogand it says  Errors encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop....12:34
Xanadu_ice_ just ask12:34
FatDarreli cannot loginto ubuntu by using gnome it just sits there for hours12:35
ice_:p vid driver problems12:35
foXgamerxml-blog: If you use the update gui program, you can de-select the gdk and just keep gnome updates.12:35
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foXgamerice_: What video card do you have?12:35
ice_ati radeon 9800 pro12:35
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ice_I followed a guide on the ubuntu forums12:35
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sobersabreLasseL, this depends on: which applets you run, and many other things.12:35
Xanadu_xml-blog does it tell you which package is broken?12:35
foXgamerice_: And what is the exact problem? Can you get it to work at all?12:35
FatDarrel: None of the resolved addresses are writable; saving configuration settings w12:35
FatDarrelill not be possible12:35
xml-blogfox, just to be clear I use synaptic to remove what exactly12:35
cwillu_I really want to have dist-update simply overwrite configuration files, without having to answer 'y' to each one.  Anybody got a solution?12:35
sobersabrebesides there are system processes.12:35
FatDarrelthat is the error i get any ideas ?12:35
sobersabreLasseL, has my suggestion helped ?12:36
ice_The video doesn't seem to work right, but I have the ati control panel icon in my applications menu12:36
erUSUL!tell ice_ about ati12:36
odathi everyone12:36
foXgamerxml-blog: When you come to upgrade, you can go through them and de-select anything that you don't need.12:36
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FatDarrelThis is the strange error message I get from gconf ?? any dieas anyone -------------> #########: None of the resolved addresses are writable; saving configuration settings will not be possible12:36
LasseLsobersabre, stopping cups and moving xchat to launch last helped12:36
naliothcwillu_: the -y argument?12:36
odatanyone have any experience with rsdp problems?12:36
cwillu_is there anyway to do that once its started?12:36
shinuanyone can tell me why when ./configuring mplayer, it doesnt see my libogg and libvorbis? (its not listed under the codecs section at the end)12:36
odaterr rdsp problems lol12:36
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sobersabreLasseL, cups will start the next boot. you need to remove symlinks to /etc/init.d/supsys from /etc/rc2.d/12:37
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xml-blogXanadu, it says unpacking replacement kdevelop3-data...dpkg: error trying to overwrite ddevdesigner.desktop and then shows a thousand things with unmet deps12:37
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Xanadu_xml-blog u running kubuntu or ubuntu?12:38
wptony...If I currently use the preview version of Breezy, will I be able to save my files when I switch to the regular version?12:38
LasseLsobersabre, no I need to go to System -> Administration -> Services and remove the checkmark next to the Printer Service :p12:38
FatDarrelneed some help with gconf and the supid hostname problem ?12:38
SuperTails92wptony: if you use apt, yes12:38
xml-bloghaha, currently? ubuntu. at one point I installed kubuntu-desktop (while I was still in hoary) and went back and forth trying to decide which env i liked. I settled back on gnome and it is default session, but K is still there...12:38
Xanadu_wptony the easiest way to switch is just to update through synaptic - all your files will stay the same12:38
foXgamerFatDarrel: What hostname problem do you have?12:39
wptonyXanadu: Thanks12:39
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sobersabreLasseL, nice idea! do it :)12:39
LasseLyou unix geeks should really learn to tell people how to solve their problems through the gui rather than the CLI (if possible)12:39
foXgamerxml-blog: Are you using breezy?12:39
sobersabrei didn't know of this :)12:39
Xanadu_xml-blog i suggest you apt-get remove kdevelop (or whatever the package name is) and try again12:39
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pulverhey! 'fdisk -l' says that partition 1-4 (all of them) 'does not end on cylinder bounadry'. how bad is this? is there a fix? any ideas12:40
gmjonkerHi all - Can anyone help me with apt-get? Im getting this:12:40
nekostaroh no!12:40
gmjonkerThe following packages have unmet dependencies:12:40
gmjonker  gcc-4.0: Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu6) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed12:40
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bytefooholy snaps :|12:40
gmjonkerwhen trying to do apt-get install gcc-4.012:40
FatDarrelfoXgamer, well i have a ubunut install on a network12:40
LasseLgmjonker, try synaptic12:40
bytefooevolution-exchange is using 53.4% cpu and not even running :(12:40
naliothgmjonker: i smell unofficial repositories12:40
nekostarxchat is freezing on me.. is there to tell if there is a problem with my install of ubuntu or if its my config of xchat by chance?12:40
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odatanyone able to help with rdsp problems?12:40
gmjonkerLasseL: it says the same12:40
seliniumis there anyway of sending an email through the command line?12:40
bytefooand clock-applet is using 30 and 40% memory :(12:40
nekostarwas working fine yesterday even12:40
xml-blogfox, in the middle of breezy upgrade. (very scary stuff. glad to have such a hard working to prevent the onset of heart-attack) Xana, I try to apt-get remove and it says broken paclages, apt-get -f install which does same thing all over12:41
FatDarrelfoXgamer, anyway i think ebcause of the difference in names my gconf is acting up12:41
Knorrieselinium: mail12:41
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gmjonkernalioth: im using universe and the other whats its name yes12:41
RoloCan anyone recommend a lovely newsreader for downloading loads of stuff?12:41
seliniumKnorrie: cheers!12:41
Xanadu_nekostar: it's working for me (right now in fact ;))12:41
gmjonkernalioth: is that the cause?12:41
RoloSomeone said to try Pan12:41
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Xanadu_Rolo: Pan12:41
naliothgmjonker: paste your sources.list to a pastebin please12:41
xml-blogI would paste to rafb, but firefox is hosed12:41
Roloaha, that'll do :>12:41
Knorrieselinium: it's not so difficult :P12:41
naliothubotu: tell gmjonker about pastebin12:41
foXgamerxml-blog: This may solve your problems. Breezy is very gnome friendly. I use it fine :)12:41
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Xanadu_Rolo it's pretty good for downloading lots of binaries at once, which I think is what you're asking...12:42
ice_Hey another question. I am going to try another guide to installing my ATI drivers, is there anything I have to do to replace my previous tries?12:42
RoloAye, sounds right...12:42
KarasuHi all12:42
RoloThanks :>12:42
xml-blogfoXgamer, it's if failing *during* the upgrade to breezy. hoary was a-ok.12:42
foXgamerFatDarrel: HAve you tried backing up gconf and then making sure the names are correct.12:42
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FatDarrelwell i can name my computer anything i want right12:42
KarasuI need some help with ubuntu 5.10 repositorie12:42
naliothKarasu: waht kind of help?12:43
Jenocinanyone else getting random freezes where the hd light stays on but everything is locked.. no mouse... and the hd is not being accessed. Have to cold boot12:43
scribblesI received an email attachment through Hushmail entitled "Attachment1.pgp", I've saved this file to my desktop, how do I read it? Hushmail automatically took care of decrypting the msg etc12:43
foXgamerxml-blog: hmm. I am guessing that you have already checked the possibility of a cd error?12:43
Karasu## Backports12:43
Karasudeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:43
Karasudeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:43
Karasuhow can I get those for 5.1012:43
naliothKarasu: mirromax is no longer with us12:43
xml-blogfoXgamer, not using CD. Upgrading from hoary via apt-get dist-upgrade12:43
naliothubotu: tell Karasu about backports12:43
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Xanadu_Jenocin: No, but I suggest you check your drives because it might be a sign of a slow but steady drive crash (I had one recently - not much fun)12:43
naliothKarasu: there are no backports for 5.10 yet12:43
naliothKarasu: please dont paste in here12:44
gleesondmy screen freezes at login screen about 3/4 of the time when I reboot how can I stop this12:44
Jenocinxanadu... pretty new harddrive... was thinking about replacing it with a 7200 rpm anyhow (laptop)12:44
Knorriegleesond: my first guess is that it's a hardware problem12:44
LasseLit sucks that they don't even have an empty backports repo for breezy12:44
foXgamerxml-blog: Ah. I have never done that so I can't think what it could be. Unless there is a conflict between the two. Have you tried running from the prompt rather than the gui?12:44
albackerguys, i get this configure: error: Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11.12:44
albacker... do i need to isntall libx11-dev ?12:44
Jenocinthere is an empty repo12:44
Xanadu_Jenocin the new ones are the most dangerous - if it lasts 12 months then it'll probably last forever ;)12:44
xml-blogfoXgamer, yes i was running from gnome-term12:45
gmjonkernalioth: how bout this: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=39062312:45
LasseLJenocin, must be new then ... *checks*12:45
naliothalbacker: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev12:45
xml-blogfoXgamer, scary huh?12:45
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Jenocin:-P nods Yep I know, home machine is running 6 drives now12:45
Jenocinlassel was from like a week ago12:45
Jenocinwas off the ubuntuforums.org12:45
foXgamerxml-blog: hehe. Does sound like it :) I mean from the prompt - actually come right out of the gui back to the prompt12:45
Xanadu_Jenocin I'm not saying that it's that - but definitely worth checking just in case. I wish I had realised earlier why my machine was running strangely12:45
darkheartnalioth What happened to mirrormax?12:45
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ice_Hey another question. I am going to try another guide to installing my ATI drivers, is there anything I have to do to replace my previous tries?12:45
kbrooksdarkheart: down12:46
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xml-blogfoXgamer, oh you mean quit X12:46
naliothgmjonker: run "sudo apt-get -f install"12:46
Jenocinxanadu: yep I know, specially since it is the hitachi "deathstar" :-P figured ibm would have gotten rid of those12:46
Karasuanyone knows how to get w32codecs?12:46
Xanadu_Jenocin lol12:46
darkheartkbrooks That's it?12:46
foXgamerxml-blog: Yes. If there is a conflict with the current gnome-gui, then this should solve that problem.12:46
xml-blogfoXgamer, been running linux 6 months, not that brave yet ;)12:46
darkheartKarasu sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:46
tristanmike!tell Karasu about w32codecs12:46
kbrooksdarkheart: its down12:46
xml-blogfoXgamer, will try if all else fails ;)12:46
Jenocinxanadu: figure they would at least have changed the name12:47
naliothubotu: tell Karasu about w32codecs12:47
kbrooksdarkheart: yes thats it12:47
naliothdarkheart: the codecs are no longer in ubuntu repos12:47
tristanmikedarkheart, the w32codecs have been removed12:47
foXgamerxml-blog: Have faith in yourself! I've only been using linux for two months. The thing to remember is that everything you do can be undone12:47
naliothubotu: tell darkheart about w32codecs12:47
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gmjonkernalioth: you mean like apt-get -f install gcc-4.0?12:47
wptonyubotu: tell popcorn ping12:47
naliothgmjonker: no i mean just what i typed12:47
darkheartWhat changed with the codecs?12:47
kbrooksgmjonker: thats the solution pkg. dont give it one12:47
naliothdarkheart: legalities were made clear12:47
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gleesonddoes anyone have any suggestions where I can get an audio codec package?12:48
darkheartnalioth Hah...go figure.12:48
Jenocinhttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php12:48
gmjonkernalioth: ok i did it, it said 0 upgraded, 0 etc 0 012:48
nekostarwhat is the correct useage for apt-get --purge remove package?12:48
Xanadu_gleesond which audio codec?12:48
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naliothgmjonker: now try the gcc install12:48
Jenocinwhat codec pac is needed for streaming wmv from websites using xine and firefox?12:48
gleesondmp3, aac, m4a12:48
tristanmikenekostar, "--purge" will remove config files too12:48
seliniumnalioth: so what happens in the future for w32codecs?12:48
darkheartnekostar apt-get remove --purge <package> probably12:48
sumonneed somw help12:48
sumoni cannot update anymore12:48
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naliothselinium: /msg ubotu w32codecs12:48
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wptonyUbotu should really be upgraded to a Supybot - that's what mine runs off of. Sooooo much better than infobot12:48
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, wptony12:48
wptonyexactly12:49
xml-blogwhy would trying to remove kdebase mark a bunch of gnome stuff for removal?12:49
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Jenocinselenium thanks12:49
nekostartristanmike:  lol interesting.. i used: " sudo apt-get --purge remove xchat " and it left the configs somehow....12:49
TiMiDowptony is not infobot is blootbot12:49
stinkjoneshello all12:49
sumonhello all12:49
sumonneed somw help12:49
sumoni cannot update anymore12:49
wptonyTiMiDo: Still, he should be upgraded12:49
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TiMiDowptony take it to #ubuntu-offtopic12:49
naliothsumon: we need more info12:49
cwillugah12:49
gmjonkernalioth: it says the same12:49
wptonyOk.....12:49
Jenocin\msg ubotu w32codecs12:49
Knorriewhats a good bittorrent app in ubuntu?12:49
naliothgmjonker: apt-get remove gcc-4.whatever12:50
SuperTails92Knorrie: Bittornado12:50
Jenocinknorrie azerues12:50
apokryphosKnorrie: azureus, ktorrent12:50
cwilluI hate it when somebody suggests using a different window manager to solve a problem that can't be solved with the current one, and then you switch, and find the new one has _exactly_ the same problem12:50
seliniumsumon: do hammer the channel, we will answer as quick as we can12:50
Knorriewhaaa :)12:50
graemeI deleted the index.html in a directory so that index.php would take over... and now apache is sending me index.html still, but with the mimetype "application/x-trash"12:50
naliothubotu: tell Jenocin about w32codecs12:50
cevizogluJenocin, turn your slash around :    /  not   \12:50
nekostaryeah .. o well perhaps there was an instance running in memory.. thanx12:50
graemedoes rm move things to the trash now?12:50
gmjonkernalioth: i now only have gcc-3.4-base and gcc-4.0-base installed12:50
naliothgmjonker: remove the problem one12:50
TiMiDograeme it doesn't but it does erase the files12:50
tarzeaugraeme: no, and it never should12:50
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gmjonkernalioth: i cant remove those because then it 'll remove other apps as well12:50
naliothgraeme: nope, rm removes forever12:51
graemetarzeau, I agree! so why would i still have this 'trash' file around?12:51
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seliniumsumon: what are you running hoary or breezy? what did you do that made it stop?12:51
cevizogluhow do I disable eth0 permanently?12:51
Xanadugraeme have you set apache to look for index.php?12:51
stinkjonesi had a question about the ubuntu live cd. I was wondering whether i could browse my windows disk when i boot into ubuntu. It is NTFf12:51
tarzeaugraeme: no idea12:51
graemeXanadu, yah, it looks for it as normal.12:51
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funkyHatis libdvdcss2 in breezy-extras?12:51
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gmjonkernalioth: o wait that's not true... just a sec12:51
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xml-blogwow all my apps going bye bye. if I wind up without x (and therefore without xchat) what should I install to get a base gnome system running again?12:52
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Knorriecevizoglu: remove eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces12:52
keffyndhey gang, does anyone here have a Geforce 6800GT PCIx?12:52
graemeXanadu, it looks for index.php in all other dir's.12:52
graemeit's just this one that's causing me pain.12:52
tristanmikenekostar, that's because it's "remove --purge" not "--purge remove"12:52
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naliothgraeme: gnome and kde maintain their own trash files/directories12:52
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seliniumxml-blog: use irssi to fire up irc on command line12:52
foXgamerfunkyHat: No. libdvdcss is not in any of the repositories. You will have to find it on the net.12:52
Kirakeffynd: nVidia's linux driver doesn't work for you?12:52
cwilluand so we start again.  Does anybody know of a way to specify the delay before a window is _activated_ (not _raised_) when using focus-follows-mouse?12:52
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sockpuppe1hello all12:52
stinkjonesalso, is there any windows utility for writing an img file to a disk, like dd in linux? that would make my life a whole lot easier12:52
ompschthello sockpuppe112:52
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Xanadugraeme it sounds like an apache problem more than an ubuntu problem - if it moved the file to trash apache wouldn't see it because it would be in another non-www directory12:53
meuserj|workstinkjones, rawrite12:53
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sockpuppe1anyone here have skype installed12:53
naliothstinkjones: rawwrite12:53
seliniumhello sockpuppe112:53
stinkjonesthanks12:53
sumonselinium , hoary12:53
funkyHatfoXgamer, ubotu states that it is in hoary-extras :P12:53
xml-blogthanks selinium!12:53
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Xanadusockpuppel yes12:53
nekostartristanmike: thanx a lot! i knew i had to have gotten it wrong somehow,, lol :)12:53
meuserj|workstinkjones, rawritewin if you want a gui12:53
graemeXanadu, does apache keep caches of such things?12:53
stinkjoneslol i've been downloading cracks for ghost, drive image and a bunch of other crap i didn't need for days12:53
scopecrpany apache(2) gurus around?12:53
sockpuppe1hello selenium12:53
foXgamerfunkyHat: hmm. Do you have all the repositories selected?12:53
naliothscopecrp: try #apache12:53
xml-blogwill apt-get install ubuntu-desktop get me a running gnome sys?12:53
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NoUsexml-blog installing ubuntu-desktop should bring you back up12:53
Xanadugrame it shouldn't unless you're running some kind of funny version12:53
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nekostar:)12:53
naliothxml-blog: it should12:53
funkyHatfoXgamer, it's not for me12:53
seliniumxml-blog: you will need to /server irc.freenode.com to log onto the server you should konw the rest12:53
Seveasscopecrp, asking your question usualy has more effect12:53
Xanadugraeme have u tried apachectl restart?12:54
Knorriescopecrp: apache 1.312:54
Xanadugraeme or apache2ctl restart for apache212:54
gmjonkernalioth: i'll try 'force version' in synaptic12:54
seliniumscopecrp: what is the prob12:54
cevizogluKnorrie: thx12:54
graemeXanadu, well, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart12:54
xml-blogNoUse, nalioth, selinium, thanks12:54
woodwizzleanyone running mythtv?12:54
Knorriecevizoglu: np12:54
sockpuppe1xanandu I get this error when trying to install about libqt3c102-mt12:54
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graemeXanadu, but yah.12:54
scopecrpCan anyone tell me why apache2/php5 is writing <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> on all of my pages?  its breaking my xhtml12:54
seliniumxml-blog: np12:54
sockpuppe1mine is like3.3.3.312:54
gmjonkernalioth: mmm doesnt work either12:54
sockpuppe1but it needs 3.3.3.212:54
meuserj|workompscht, I've never had a problem with bittorrent in Ubuntu12:55
Xanadugraeme is there not another file in the directory that's also one of the defaults before index.php?12:55
seliniumscopecrp: go to #apache12:55
sockpuppe1any way that I can fix that?12:55
naliothgmjonker: same error?12:55
stinkjoneswait rawrite will not work for what i am trying to do12:55
SuperTails92Is it safe to do a piecemeal upgrade to Breezy by installing/upgrading metapackages one by one?12:55
stinkjonesit only works with floppies not hard disks12:55
seliniumsumon: what did you do before it stopped>12:55
selinium?12:55
meuserj|workstinkjones, oh... what exactly are you trying to do?12:55
jack-question: if i just exchange the motherboard (+gfx card) of my ubuntu pc, what do i need to run to reconfigure the stuff properly? (supposed it still boots)12:55
sumonselinium , didn't do anything12:56
graemeXanadu, not at all, it's all cleaned out.12:56
propagandhiscopecrp: I've never seen apache do that by default, it will normally only add that tag if theres no valid header, are you leaving an empty line at the top of your files12:56
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stinkjonesi have an .img file (of a certain os installed) that i want to write to a hard drive12:56
seliniumsumon: what error do you get?12:56
MRBossmanI did not know it would be so hard to find a linux ftp client that supports ssl behind a nat device12:56
jack-..is that a good idea at all, or should i just start from scratch?12:56
foXgamerSuperTails92: I wouldn't suggest it.  We've just had someone who is having problems by doing that12:56
primoturboIs there a program that can tell me which folders are using what percentage of space?12:56
Trashcanooh12:56
meuserj|workstinkjones, what program was used to create the img?12:56
sockpuppe1would anyone here know how I could fix that?12:56
MRBossmanall the linux clients wants you to do port redirection12:56
Seveasprimoturbo, baobab12:56
Trashcani wanna answer stink's question12:56
Trashcani'm gonna guess here12:56
naliothprimoturbo: xdiskusage12:56
propagandhiscopecrp: for example, if i write a php file but leave an empty line before my first PHP tag it will do that, and it messes with PHP too12:56
MRBossmanthat sucks12:56
stinkjonesi know how you can use dd to do this in linux, but if i could do this from windows it would be easier for me12:56
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scopecrppropagandhi, ive tried specifying the content-type with php to override it but still no joy12:57
foXgamerMRBossman: Have you tried gftp?12:57
Trashcandd if=theimage of=/dev/thehdd12:57
scopecrppropagandhi, ill check that thanks12:57
jack-mrbossman, use iglooftp-pro with pasv mode12:57
jack-problem solved12:57
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stinkjonesthe img was created with VM Ware.12:57
ericzhey, i have windows xp sp2, and a cd burner, and a blank cd, what program should i use to burn the breezy badger install iso to it? since the cd needs to be bootable and all?12:57
jack-foxgamer: gftp sucks with auth tls12:57
stinkjonesi may or may not have downloaded it as a torrent to run osx8612:57
gmjonkernalioth: yeah... it has to do with this gcc-4.0-base. its version 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 while all the other gcc-blabla packages are still 4.0.1-4ubuntu6...12:57
rc55What install option do I use to skip network config / apt-update?12:57
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sumonselinium , http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found12:57
Trashcanericz: did your burner come with nero?12:57
meuserj|workstinkjones, oh.. I know what you are trying to do.. Mac OSX on intel hardware12:57
stinkjoneslol12:57
naliothgmjonker: remove all gcc 4 stuff12:57
ericzno12:58
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stinkjonesyes, exactly12:58
naliothsumon: mirromax is dead12:58
Trashcanlol meuserj|work12:58
Trashcannice12:58
meuserj|workstinkjones, you must use vmware for that to work12:58
MRBossmanyeah and glubftp does not work behind a nat devices12:58
naliothubuntulog: tell sumon about backports12:58
ericztrashcan, no, no nero12:58
Trashcanouch12:58
SuperTails92ericz: any program that can burn ISO images as data discs12:58
jack-told ya. iglooftp-pro.12:58
Trashcanaye12:58
sockpuppe1xanadu gave any ideas12:58
Xanadu_darn my link died again12:58
sockpuppe1?12:58
ericzi don't know of any programs12:58
stinkjonesi can run it in vm ware, but writing that damn img file to a hard disk is harder than it sounds12:58
naliothhate tab completion12:58
ericzcan you suggest one12:58
ericz?12:58
gmjonkernalioth: i cant... if i remove the gcc-4.0-base, it says it has to remove twenty other programs as well12:58
Trashcani use nero, i believe BlindWrite can do it too12:58
SeveasXanadu, yes12:58
naliothubotu: tell sumon about backports12:58
xml-blogman, recurring nightmare! error trying to overwrite /usr/share/mono/../../stuff/... which is also in package mono-mcs subprocess paste killed by signal12:58
MRBossmaniglooftp crashed on ubuntu12:58
Xanadu_sockpuppel go to http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=169829&highlight=12:58
MRBossmanfor some reason12:58
naliothgmjonker: paste your 'will remove bleh' to a pastebin12:58
Xanadu_sockpuppel the info is about halfway down the page12:58
jack-mrbossman: you did something wrong then12:58
MRBossmanwhen I run it and connect to my server12:59
sockpuppe1will do xanadu12:59
scopecrppropagandhi, there are no blank lines at the top of any of the files...  if it matters im using xslt to generate the html12:59
MRBossmanit connects then the gui just drops out12:59
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meuserj|workstinkjones, right... the image is specific to vmware.. only it can understand it12:59
MRBossmanif I connect to a site that doe4s not have tls/ssl it runs12:59
stinkjonesi see\12:59
jack-nalioth: exchanging the motherboard and booting = good idea? or should i install ubuntu again?12:59
propagandhiscopecrp: test it by creating a php file that just has <?php echo "TESTING"; ?> at the first line12:59
stinkjonesi'll have to use linux then12:59
jack-from p2 to athlon..12:59
MRBossmanbut connect to work and that thing will crash everytime01:00
stinkjonesthere is a tutorial for writing the data using the dd command01:00
Jenocinbackports at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php01:00
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gmjonkernalioth: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=39063601:00
MRBossmanI was willing to purchase it01:00
meuserj|workstinkjones, ah, well you can use a livecd if you don't want to install linux01:00
stinkjonesi know01:00
MRBossmanbut I emailed tech support about the issue 2 weeks ago and no reply yet from igloo01:00
stinkjonesi guess i'll do that01:00
stinkjonescan ubuntu read windows formatted (ntfs) partitions01:00
stinkjones?01:00
Jenocinwhats the best app to make a hd disc image?01:01
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MRBossmanto bad flashfxp does not support linux01:01
Jenocinstinkjones yes01:01
Xanadu_stinkjones: yes01:01
meuserj|workstinkjones, read, but not write01:01
naliothubotu tell stinkjones about ntfs01:01
gmjonkernalioth: i guess its like it says 'some packages have not yet been created'...01:01
scopecrppropagandhi, i just tested, and even with a blank line its not adding the content-type...  very odd01:01
Jenocinmeuser: sorta write01:01
stinkjonesonly readeh?01:01
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scopecrppropagandhi, i guess its related to xsl01:01
jack-mrbossman: get pftp01:01
stinkjonesthey should work fine\01:01
meuserj|workJenocin, if you are suicidal about your data....01:01
stinkjonesthat*01:01
Jenocinstinkjones writing is touchy01:01
naliothgmjonker: pastebin what it says when you try to remove gcc 4 all01:01
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jack-that one is free and works 100%01:01
Jenocinmeuser they are getting better01:01
naliothgmjonker: i want to see the pkgs it wants to remove01:01
MRBossmanwell no harm in looking at another one01:01
MRBossmanlet me look at pftp01:01
jack-not the pftp in the repos though01:02
jack-google for pftp-mew01:02
meuserj|workJenocin, I just use fat32 for everything in windows.. ntfs doesn't give me enought of a benefit to merit the interoperablity headaches01:02
jack-should be somewhere at tanesha.net01:02
stinkjoneswell thanks for your help guys01:02
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MRBossmandoes it support tls/ssl01:02
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debuggerI've upgraded to breeze, but now eth0 is not configured by dhcp, how can I fix this?01:03
jack-yes01:03
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Knorriebittorrent wont work here either,01:03
MRBossmanok01:03
Jenocinmeuser I use ntfs / vfat / and ext301:03
debugger/etc/network/interfaces has eth0 with dhcp, but it does not work :(01:03
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cevizogluare there any free (as in speech) tools for ubuntu to open the mac standard dmg format?  or projects starting to do so?01:03
Jenocinntfs does have some advantages01:03
Xanadu_debugger: system->admin->networking01:03
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cafuego_debugger: Remove the line that maps eth0 to hotplug.01:03
debuggerXanadu, I only have shell.01:03
ericzofftopic but anyone know where i can get nero to burn an iso?01:03
foXgamerdebugger: Look for a network interface program. There's one with gnome that allows you to turn dhcp on and off01:04
gmjonkernalioth: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=39063801:04
cevizogluericz, nero isn't free... why not try it with cygwin?  ;)01:04
foXgamerericz: HAve you tried k3d?01:04
ericz....never heard of k3d01:04
jack-nalioth: can i exchange my motherboard and gfx card, and continue using my old hoary?01:05
cafuego_ericz: Recorder -> Burn Image01:05
ericzwhere can i get nero, im not really concerned with whether its free01:05
jack-or should i install it again?01:05
debuggercafuego_, then I should reboot?  isn't there a command to restart this?  maybe /etc/init.d/networking ?01:05
foXgamerericz: Give it a look, it allows you to burn iso images simply and quickly01:05
propagandhik3b01:05
xml-blogok i have a very specific error now, trying to remove mono-devel and friends. I get unmet deps on mono-common. it wants 1.1.7....ubp1 (looks like backports) but some other version to be installed. so if i try to downgrade the package to the version it wants (so that I can remove it) it can't find the package. I removed the backports from sources.list and now don't have a working browser to go google it for myself. I can't go forward or bac01:05
xml-blogkwards. any suggestions?01:05
naliothubotu: tell gmjonker about sources01:05
keffyndanyone here have a Geforce 6800GT PCIx?01:05
Xanadu_debugger your eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces should look something like "iface eth0 inet dhcp"01:05
keffyndI cant get mine to do dual screen01:06
xml-blogubotu: tell me about backports01:06
debuggerXanadu_, it does.  but it also had a hotplug line like cafuego_ said.01:06
tristanmike--help01:06
naliothgmjonker: i'm at a loss. i suspect unofficial repos have been used in the past and have put unofficial debs into your box01:06
tristanmikewoops01:06
jack-:(01:06
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Xanadu_debugger after that you should have as little stuff as possible - just "network" and "broadcast" if you're not getting any joy with just the iface line01:06
Knorriedebugger: yes, /etc/init.d/networking restart, or ifconfig eth0 down; ifup eth001:06
foXgamerwb ice_01:07
ice_:D thx01:07
debuggerKnorrie, networking restart did not work (eG: it didn't run the dhcp client)01:07
Xanadu_debugger do you have the dhcp client installed? (Should be installed by default)01:08
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debuggerKnorrie, ifup eth0 worked. thx :)01:08
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Knorriedebugger: yeah01:08
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gmjonkernalioth: thanks anyway. do you think it will sort itself out in time? like if the other packages get up to date again?01:08
khermansApaches is not protecting my directory, even though I have .htaccess and .htpasswd set and AllowOverride All, anyone have toruble shooting steps?01:08
debuggerXanadu, yup. its installed.01:08
cafuego_debugger: Mine started working again automagically when I trashed the hotplug line.01:08
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floraanyone use ubuntu on a laptop with a docking station and external monitor?01:09
Xanadu_debugger is it working now?01:09
florai can't get mine to groove01:09
debuggerXanadu, yup :)01:09
naliothgmjonker: if you dont enable unofficial repos to let more non-ubuntu pkgs in, it should correct itself01:09
sobersabreflora, which machine ?01:09
Knorriekhermans: look in /var/log/apache/error_log01:09
Xanadu_debugger kewl, gj Knorrie01:09
floradell d61001:09
naliothgmjonker: are you using hoary or breezy?01:09
KnorrieXanadu_: gj?01:09
debuggerXanadu, what if "gj"?01:09
Xanadu_good job01:09
debuggererr what is01:10
debuggerah :)01:10
KnorrieXanadu_: :)01:10
Jenocinanyone know where suspend went in breezy.. I had it in the logout... then I didn't then I did then I didn't :-P last couple updates01:10
sobersabrehmm...  no idea. there can be problem to work with CRT with linux if it were booted with LCD.01:10
sobersabreyou should boot with CRT.01:10
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gmjonkernalioth: breezy. actually what you say makes sense. I had some other repo's... and couldn't resist the balloon tempting me to upgrade all... i guess then is when it happened, what you said.01:10
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xml-bloghow does one nuke a package off the system? trying to remove mono-devel gripes about needing libmono-1.1.7 trying to install said lib says no installation candidate01:12
khermansKnorrie, nothing in there01:12
Karasuhow do I install "auto" deb package?01:12
khermansKnorrie, I don't see anything out of the ordinary01:12
gmjonkernalioth: ok you're saying it came in via non-ubuntu packages... ill see if i can see where it went wrong. thanks a lot!01:12
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Xanadu_Jenocin suspend.sh used to be in /etc/acpi/ I think, but now it seems to have dissapeared :(01:13
naliothgmjonker: are you using hoary or breezy?01:13
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stiffhi i'm using ubuntu 5.04, and i can't find out where to use apt-get01:14
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Jenocinxanadu: seen it in the gnome-power-manager... can suspend.. can't figure how to get it to unsuspend :-P01:14
Xanadu_stiff what do you mean by "where"?01:14
debuggerhummm, the kernel that is bundled with breeze doesn't not output/list the devices/hardware names that it finds at boot time, is there a way of reactivating that?01:14
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Karasuhow do I install "auto" deb package?01:14
GNULinuxGeekHello all01:14
Jenocinxanadu the one in logout worked fine b401:14
Xanadu_Jenocin you on breezy?01:15
naliothKarasu: what is that? have an example URL?01:15
GNULinuxGeekI have two questions tonight01:15
Jenocinxanadu yep01:15
stiffXanadu, i never had to use it to install packages. so it should be one of the apps?01:15
naliothubotu: tell clawson about apt-get01:15
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naliothubotu: tell stiff about apt-get01:15
naliothubotu: tell stiff about synaptic01:15
debuggerouch... breeze freezes vmware on reboot :/01:15
xml-blogok, one more easy question sorry... is there any way i can install a *clean* ubuntu over my existing hosed sys and just recover my files? I know this sounds windowsy but i'm falling back to comfort zone01:15
GNULinuxGeekOne, has anyone gotten Brezzy to work on AMD54 with an AC97 soundcard/chip?01:15
Xanadu_debugger i haven't been able to get vmware to work on breezy yet either01:16
Xanadu_xml-blog: back up first!01:16
Jenocingnulinuxgeek: haven't had a chance to try it on my x2 yet01:16
xml-blogXanadu, nothing works but gnome-term and x-chat ;)01:16
debuggerXanadu, I running vmware on windows, and inside it I run breeze.  it boots and all, but now I've tried the first reboot, and it borked.01:16
Jenocinxanadu: whats the best way to back up a disk? dd?01:16
xml-blogXanadu, ok exaggeration but not by much01:17
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Xanadu_Jenocin it depends on what you're backing up to01:17
jeff_Jenocin: rdiff-backup01:17
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cafuego_GNULinuxGeek: Mine works with nforce3 ac97 sound (snd_intel8x0)01:17
Jenocinxanadu: would like to either do usb or network01:17
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Jenocinxanadu: possible cdr01:17
Xanadu_Jenocin I use rsync and back up to another pc01:17
debuggerodd, the network is not bring up on reboot :/01:17
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gmjonkernalioth: breezy01:18
Jenocinxanadu: can u rsync to a windows box?01:18
Xanadu_debugger add "auto eth0" to the bottom of the /etc/network/interface file01:18
xml-bloghow does one recover gksudo ?01:18
Seveasrecover?01:18
seliniumJenocin: if you install rsync on the windows box01:18
xml-blogit's gone01:18
Xanadu_Jenocin yeah - it's basically just a file copier but it checks whether the file is there already and if it's change01:18
Jenocinxmlblog :reinstall maybe :-P01:18
jeff_xml-blog: apt-get install -reinstall gksudo I think01:18
xml-blogand apt-get doesn't have a clue01:18
MRBossmanJack you ever got a ftp sll client to work in ubuntu01:18
MRBossman?01:18
Seveasxml-blog, the package is gksu01:18
MRBossmanit is going on 2 weeks with this same problem01:19
cafuego_!find gksudo01:19
Xanadu_Jenocin so if you mount the windowz share as a directory u shouldn't have a problem01:19
BradZSurely ndiswrapper on PPC won't allow me to install the Windows broadcom 4306 drivers??01:19
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SeveasMRBossman, places-> connect to server01:19
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'gksudo' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/gksudo) in admin/gksu.01:19
MRBossmanpftp will not even compile01:19
Jenocinxanadu: I will check into it thanks, what about to a usb mounted on the same machine?01:19
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Seveasor gftp from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:19
MRBossman?01:19
GNULinuxGeekCan I upgrade 5.04 to 5.10?01:19
sorush20is there a newer and better version of the hotplug system or not..01:19
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cafuego_GNULinuxGeek: yes01:19
xiaogilsynaptics can't download the update of evolution, is it a know bug ?01:19
daxxarHow do I set my WM? (:01:19
xiaogilknown01:19
Chinamanhow do i delete alsa completely?01:19
ubuntu_pretty busy in here01:20
jeff_Chinaman: It is in the kernel, you don't01:20
xml-blogthanks folks sorry to be such a dumbass i feel like a terrible noob.  it won't let me install gksu complaining about all the other borked stuff01:20
Xanadu_Jenocin should work fine. Just google for rsync backup - there are some nice little scripts that will help you out online that i used to make a batch file that backed up what i wanted01:20
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Chinamanno, i need to reset my alsa01:20
xml-blogi will try some more experiments for a bit01:20
Chinamansomething died yesterday01:20
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Seveasxml-blog, hmm, paste the complete output on the pastebin please01:20
cafuego_xiaogil: No, it's a feature. synaptics is a touchpad driver. Did you mean 'synaptic' ?01:20
naliothBradZ: ndiswrapper doesnt work on ppc01:20
Jenocinxanadu: already in the process on ubuntuforums and google :-P01:20
xiaogilcafuego_ : yes01:20
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xiaogilcafuego_ : on breezy01:20
xml-blogubotu tell me about pastebin01:20
cafuego_xiaogil: Worked fine here. Try a different mirror.01:21
Chinamanmeh, i'll just wait till breezy01:21
debuggerXanadu, that worked. thx :)01:21
Xanadu_debugger kewl01:21
debuggerXanadu_, now, gonna try gnome 2.12 hehe01:21
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | 1.5 days to Breezy! | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
Xanadu_debugger it rockz01:21
xiaogilcafuego_: trying a different mirror means edit sources.list :(01:22
Trashcananyone have a quick guide to setting up connection sharing (a nat)?01:22
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daxxarNo nice gui to set default windowmanager to e.g. fluxbox? ;)01:22
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cafuego_Seveas: Only 2/3 day until the 13th here01:22
SeveasTrashcan, apt-get install firestarter01:22
Trashcani have it01:22
Xanadu_Trashcan I do it the easy lazy way and use firestarter01:22
Seveasit has the magic button01:22
cafuego_xiaogil: Yes, so?01:22
xml-blogSeveas, pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/300301:22
Xanadu_Trashcan then just run the wizard and it'll work01:22
quendijust a question, should i use the ubuntu provided nvidia drivers or the ones found in nvidia.com01:22
Trashcanalright01:22
Seveascafuego_, I'm taking noon UTC as release time01:22
Xanadu_Trasjcam (in theory ;))01:22
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Trashcanthanks01:22
cafuego_quendi: Just use the provided ones.01:22
xiaogilcafuego_: ok, what mirror do you use ? i'll try it01:22
Trashcanwill try :)01:22
cafuego_xiaogil: au.archive.ubuntu.com01:23
Kris_kokay damn thing keeps killing it at installing netcfg01:23
Karasuwhere can I get libdivx4linux01:23
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Seveasxml-blog, ah you f*ed up using backports01:23
FatDarrelhello01:23
Seveasxml-blog, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin too01:23
xml-blogsev, yes indeed01:23
Xanadu_quendi the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com are really tricky to install. Unless you need good 3d performance i suggest u stick with the ubuntu stuff01:23
spet3882_hello, nunca usei o irc... o que ele tem de melhor?01:23
spet3882_eu sou noob01:23
spet3882_hauahau01:24
quendiallright will for now01:24
Seveasspet3882_, stick to english in here please01:24
cafuego_Xanadu_: The ubuntu ones are the same as the nvidia ones. Why would they make ANY differnce in performance?01:24
seliniumSeveas: I take it the backports for Breezy are a bit hit and miss?01:24
Seveasselinium, backports are miss and miss01:24
cafuego_!pt01:24
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.01:24
rob_pTrashcan:  ICS howto for Ubuntu with NAT script:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/01:24
Slaj_Rquestion:  when synaptic first loads, I get a series of "couldn't stat source package list" errors.  What do I need?01:24
xiaogilcafuego_: ok i'll try to check that in austalia, thanx01:24
xml-blogSeveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/300401:24
Xanadu_cafuego_ I haven't tried the more Breezy ones, but on Hoary they made a world of difference for me01:24
spet3882_sorry... I never used irc... what is advantages?01:24
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xiaogilaustralia01:24
cafuego_Slaj_R: click 'Reload'.01:25
Jenocinxanadu: rsync gives me a few ideas but what about complete partitions? want to clone some drives :-P01:25
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GoClickWe have a machine with 10 or so accounts on it, and we have a file that we want 2 people to be able to RW and 2 people to be able to R and the other 6 people to not be able to do anything.01:25
GNULinuxGeekIs the upgrade done by changing repositories or by using the install CD?01:25
floraapt-get dist-upgrade to breezy went very badly on one of my laptops01:25
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GoClickYou can clone a drive using dd01:25
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xml-blogSeveas, just added the bp trying to get libmono-1.1.7 so i could remove mono-devel, so i could remove kde, so i could upgrade to breezy01:25
naliothubotu: tell GNULinuxGeek about upgrade2breezy01:25
floragnome-volume-manager crashed during, then after reboot it won't load X01:25
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Seveasxml-blog, grab the correct sources.list for breezy from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232501:25
xml-bloglol01:25
Jenocingoclick was looking at that, but was hoping not to have all the empty space too01:26
Buddha|I'm having trouble connecting two local computers via FTP.  Could someone help?01:26
cafuego_Xanadu_: On breezy I get no difference01:26
Seveasxml-blog, then do apt-get update and apt-get -f install01:26
GoClickJenocin dd will copy all the empty zeros too01:26
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Seveasif that won't work, some more magic will be needed01:26
xml-blogSeveas, trying... :)01:26
xiaogilwhen upgrading ubuntu, can it change automatically stuffs like my background image ?01:26
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GoClickdd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb    will clone SCSI disk A to SCSI disk B01:26
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Avenhello01:27
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MRBossmanSeveas01:27
limaunionhi, how can i do to remove just one package without its dependencies ? anyone ?01:27
Avenwhen I got ubuntu, it came with xchat... (of course)01:27
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quendimy int sound works but the control doesnt. it says to register with gst-register but the command wont do anything in the terminal01:27
Avenbut, does anyone know where the program is located?01:27
MRBossmanI have openssl on this machine01:27
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cafuego_limaunion: If stuff depends on it, you can't delete it.01:27
MRBossmanbut gftp is telling me no go01:27
bimberiAven: which xchat01:27
MRBossmanbecause ssl support was not compiled in01:27
bimberiin a terminal01:27
Avennope, not terminal01:27
lsuactiafnerAven : locate -i xchat | grep bin01:27
Aventhe program01:27
stinkjoneswow, i was using stubleupon extension for firefox while ubuntu downloads and i found this01:27
stinkjoneshttp://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A10101/addsub/01:27
SeveasMRBossman, that's why I said: gftp from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:27
stinkjonescrazy01:27
Jenocingoclick: don't want the empty zones :-P backup over network or usb 1.101:28
bimberiAven: dpkg -L xchat01:28
NoUseAven run 'which xchat' in a terminal01:28
Seveasthat one has ssl :)01:28
GNULinuxGeekWhat is upgrade2breezy?01:28
MRBossmanthats where I just got it from01:28
Avenok01:28
lsuactiafner /usr/bin/xchat01:28
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Avenit says it's in ~/.xchat01:28
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spet3882_i d like to know how i know who is talking to me?01:28
Avenbut I can't see it there01:28
MRBossmanI did not have it installed until you pointed that out01:28
lsuactiafnerwhich is better.. heh01:28
xiaogilhow long does it generally take for a mirror to be up-to-date with the main server with ubuntu ?01:28
Avenwhat exactly is the dot after the / ?01:28
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Avencause I don't see it there01:28
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NoUseAven thats where it stores your user data, not the app01:28
NoUseAven the dot makes it a hidden director01:28
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AvenAhh01:28
Avenhow can I.. "un" hide it?01:29
SeveasMRBossman, odd, that one does have ssl support built in, I'm using it myself01:29
limaunioncafuego_: ok.01:29
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NoUseAven you don't01:29
MRBossmanok hmmmm01:29
naliothspet3882_: if they are polite, they'll preface your nick when they speak to you01:29
bimberiAven: view->show hidden files (in Nautilus)01:29
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Jenocinaven ls -rtaf ?01:29
MRBossmanwell let me poke around01:29
AvenAhhh01:29
Xanaducrashed out *again*!01:29
Aventhere we go01:29
gleesondis there a mplayer package for debian... that I can install from the command line?01:29
cafuego_spet3882_: But if you yell in portugese, they're not likely to be polite.01:29
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SeveasMRBossman, ah, Ubuntu has a newer version, so probably apt refuses to install mine01:30
Seveashang on01:30
Jenocinaven I use ls -rtaf --color -h -l01:30
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Xanadugleesond: apt-get install mplayer01:30
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AvenJenocin: wha's that do?01:30
wastrelhello hello01:30
spet3882_is there only nerds here?01:30
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eraosis there someone i can ask a few questions about dual booting01:30
Jenocinaven -rtaf lists hidden, -h human readable - l list format01:30
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eraoslike in a pm01:30
xml-blogSeveas, did as instructed. Failed. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/300501:30
surferisbackhello01:30
Avenah ok01:30
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SuperTails92Aven, read ls' info docs.01:30
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goonieI just corrupted my grub bootloader (Error 17), can someone help me, please?01:30
eraosto not confuse this main dext01:31
Jenocinaven: makes it easy to read01:31
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eraostext*01:31
debuggerXanadu_, humm, ubuntu-desktop wants to install ~790 packages.... isn't there anything lighter?01:31
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Xanaduguys I'm writing a review and article on Breezy for Tectonic. If anyone would like to contribute their experiences/impressions/personal involvement please /msg me01:31
wastrelcan i put a #comment in to a shadow file?  /etc/shadow  ?01:31
Seveasxml-blog, use synaptic to remove *all* mono packages01:31
LaserLineWhat Driver should I install for an ATI Radeon 9500 PRO under Breezy ? Should I got with the 'xorg-driver-fglrx (6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu10)' Package or download the driver from ATI's website Version: 8.16.2001:31
gleesondXanadu: it says no package found01:31
xml-blogSeveas, can't launch synaptic b/c gksu is broken ;)01:31
debuggerXanadu_, will gnome-desktop-environment do the trick?01:31
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Seveas'sudo synaptic' in a terminal01:31
spet3882_uouo... there is a lot of people here01:31
cafuego_eraos: find a bootable cd. boot it.01:31
daxxarSeriously. I feel so dense. I can\t find out how to change my WM *short of editing .xinitrc*01:32
bimberiLaserLine: use the ubuntu provided driver01:32
LasseLLaserLine, I think the driver in breezy is newer than what you say01:32
Xanadudebugger what u installing again?01:32
daxxarcan't, (short of editing .xinitrc)01:32
LaserLineI just check 'packages.ubuntu.com'01:32
Xanadugleesond it's in the universe repository01:32
eraoscafuego01:32
eraosit's more than that01:32
LaserLineLasseL are the version numbers supposed to be the same ? or Ubuntu changes the numbers?01:32
cafuego_LaserLine: The ATI website one will be a complete pain to set up. Avoid!01:32
xml-blogSeveas, you rock, i s*ck01:32
eraosi have some specific questions01:32
Jenocindaxxar: gconf01:32
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debuggerXanadu, I didn't install it yet.  I just have installed ubuntu 5.04 server, then upgraded to 5.10, now I want gnome.01:32
ksmurfI'm fighting to get an usb quickcam messenger working in breezy?  any advice?01:32
LaserLinecafuego_ What's newer/better ?01:32
LaserLinebimberi What is the diffrence between the 2 ?01:33
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cafuego_LaserLine: the ubuintu one is far better (even if only for your sanity)01:33
cafuego_LaserLine: ... which is why I have an nvidia card ;-)01:33
LaserLinecafuego_ are they opensource or built from ATI's source ?01:33
VR^i'm trying to resize my ext3 partition, so i booted with the livecd, ran gparted (as root) and it tells me that it cannot be done, something along the lines of, "the edvice is busy" or something01:33
bimberibimberi: listen to cafuego_ :)01:33
LaserLinecafuego_ I preffer ATI for windows Gaming :-)01:33
cafuego_LaserLine: They're built from ATIs source.01:33
Xanadudebugger i think the path of least pain would be to wait a day and download the Breezy final, and install gnome from the CD01:34
cafuego_LaserLine: When I bought my hardware, ATI did not support amd64 (at all).01:34
LasseLLaserLine, I have  Installed: 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu1601:34
LasseL on my box01:34
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LaserLinecafuego_ I have an AMD AthlonXP 2700+ it's 2 years old... when I got my card, nVidia only had the TI4200 and 4600, that had no DirectX 9 support :)01:34
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VR^can anyone help me with resizing a partition, please01:35
Trash[impersonat;) clearly it didnt' work01:35
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cafuego_LaserLine: Linux doesn't do directx, so that's a moot point.01:35
LaserLinecafuego_ That brings up a point that Micro$oft didn't update DirectX for 18 Months - ACK !01:35
goonieDoes someone know how to (re-)install Grub from/with the Live-CD?01:35
xml-blogSeveas is a system-saver and sanity restorer.01:35
XanaduVR try gparted01:35
LasseLVR^, did you try gparted01:35
daxxarJenocin, hm. What key?01:35
LaserLinecafuego_ 2 years ago I never heard of Linux ... :-) (shy)01:35
SeveasMRBossman, still here?01:35
VR^yes i did01:35
stinkjoneshttp://www.monkeygumbo.com/wee/news/henryearl/01:35
xml-blogdamn i love this community. you guys rock01:35
XanaduVR what type of partition you got?01:35
Seveasxml-blog, I assume that that helped?01:36
VR^ext301:36
Jenocindaxxar hold on I'll check, say it on the forums the other night01:36
wastrelwhat?  breezy is being released?01:36
wastreli have to upgrade again?01:36
eraosi installed ubuntu on a hard drive...and i just put that hard drive into my system (windows) as a slave drive.. and when I use UBCD, I can't load up Ubuntu from the slave01:36
wastrelheh i just got hoary installed01:36
crimsunwastrel: not quite there.01:36
xml-blogSeveas, looks like it's picking up where the breezy upgrade left off. asking me about replaceing xorg config, etc ;)01:36
Seveasgood01:36
MRBossmanseveas when I reload and try to add your site it comes back and tells me no public key available01:36
wastrelthis is what i get for wanting a debian that upgrades more frequently01:36
bimberiwastrel: you can enjoy hoary for 1.5 days :)01:36
LaserLinecafuego_ So I should follow this simple HowTO and expect no issues ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:36
SeveasMRBossman, go to my site, it has instructions on how to add the key01:36
shinuwhere does mplayer in ubuntu take its fonts from?01:36
cafuego_LaserLine: Well, keep your fingers crossed, but yes.01:37
bimberi(or 2/3 of a day here :) )01:37
Trashcanalright let's try this again: what IP should the local device (that the pc connects to) be assigned?01:37
MRBossmanah did not see it01:37
XanaduVR did gparted give a reason for not working?01:37
daxxarshinu, try checking the content of the mplayer-fonts package01:37
VR^Xanadu: yes, i'm running it again so that i can write down what it said01:37
Jenocindaxxar: do you have gconf-editor?01:37
SeveasMRBossman, and in about  minute there will be a new gftp apckage01:37
daxxarJenocin, yep.01:37
LaserLinecafuego_ Thanks ! (Can't wait till Breezy comes out) and I could Install it on my desktop... I have Hoary on a laptop...01:37
shinudaxxar: ok ill have a look at that01:37
quendiis it so that upgrading for 5.10 preview to 5.10 final will give me _exactly_ the same stuff than installing again01:37
daxxarFor us running breezy-rc, we'll just have to update using the builtin tool?01:37
xml-blogif this were windows, i'd have lost everything. unreal how cool linux is. sorry for adding background noise, but i am truly ecstatic.01:38
VR^Xanadu: generally it mentioned something about not being able to apply the change to a busy partition01:38
Seveasdaxxar, yes01:38
naliothquendi: apt-get will keep your box up to date01:38
XanaduTrashcan what do you mean?01:38
rob_pTrashcan:  Did you view the how-to?  It describes pretty much everything you need including examples of IP addresses, etc.01:38
Trashcannope i didn't :)01:38
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Jenocindaxxar /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager?01:38
Trashcandidn't know there was one01:38
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shinudaxxar: that package isnt installed on my system and though mplayer still uses fonts from somewhere01:38
XanaduVR yeah I don't think you can resize a mounted partition. Do you have a live cd?01:38
Hhhhhhello01:38
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TrashcanI hoped I could figure it out. Apparently not.01:38
quendinalioht so is there a apt-get alias for a full upgrade of the os01:39
Hhhhhhmm, question: how would you rate a stock install of ubuntu?01:39
VR^Xanadu: i'm booting from the livecd right now. i used gparted after booting from the livecd, and it still doesnt work01:39
cafuego_quendi: apt-get dist-upgrade01:39
rob_pTrashcan:  I posted a link...  hold on a sec.01:39
Hhhhhi'm a fedora guy, considering ubuntu as well01:39
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quendicafuego all right thanx.01:39
AdamG`im having a problem with the wifi on ubunto 5.10rc its come up in, install but i dont see the light on the pcmcia card01:39
cafuego_quendi: (after you edit /etc/apt/sources.list)01:39
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SeveasHhhhh, fedora is no where near as good as Ubuntu01:39
rob_pTrashcan:  Ok, go here and read up:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/01:39
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SuperTails92Hhhhh, you'll find that apt is far faster than apt.01:39
Trashcanthanks rob01:39
XanaduVR try unmount the relevant partition manually (umount /dev/hda1 or whatever it is)01:39
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rob_pTrashcan:  No prob.01:39
SuperTails92*faster than yum01:40
quendicafuege dont you think an easier way would be to add extra repositories? i thought they were system-wide01:40
eraosi installed ubuntu on a hard drive...and i just put that hard drive into my system (windows) as a slave drive.. and when I use UBCD, I can't load up Ubuntu from the slave... can soeone help me with this?01:40
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HhhhhFC4 is nice but it required quite a bit of work before getting it to work well (mp3, etc)01:40
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Kris_kwhat Distro is good for a 100 mhz laptop with 40 mb of ram01:40
VR^Xanadu: thanks, i'll try01:40
cafuego_Hhhhh: The installer uses curses, not X, but after that i find Ubuntu is FAR more sane.01:40
SeveasKris_k, damnsmallinux01:40
Hhhhhhow about ubuntu install?01:40
SeveasHhhhh, virtually no work01:40
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daxxarJenocin, the stuff in there is deprecated. In favour of what|01:40
daxxar?01:40
Dandelhey jenocin01:40
Hhhhhmultimedia, mp3 working from clean install?01:40
Jenocindaxxar: looking01:40
Buddha|I'm having trouble connecting two local computers via FTP.  Could someone help?01:41
SeveasHhhhh, no, but in 3 clicks01:41
Jenocindandel: hey01:41
cafuego_Hhhhh: mop3 support will need a bit of work on Ubuntu too. It's a proprietary non-free format, after all.01:41
LasseLwhy is it that the propritary ATi drivers can be in a ubuntu repository and sun's java can't ?01:41
XanaduVR if that doesn't work the command line tool is resize2fs (check out the man page on it)01:41
Seveas!tell Hhhhh about mp301:41
XanaduVR but I take no responsibility ;)01:41
cafuego_LasseL: license01:41
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Hhhhhhehe bothelp01:41
LasseLcafuego_, what about it?01:41
VR^heh, no problem, thanks Xanadu01:41
HiddenWolfDandel, should work01:41
cafuego_LasseL: Sun doesn't allow distribution of modified packages.01:41
Dandeli can't get em to work on ubuntu... and my wireless doesn't work on boot :| after i set it up01:41
cafuego_LasseL: ATI do.01:41
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HhhhhSeveas, if I want KDE, I would need to install the kubuntu packages, right?01:41
LasseLcafuego_, in which way is the java package modified?01:41
quendianyone noticed that the ubuntui wlan system seems to be more stable (connection) then in sux01:42
SeveasHhhhh, no, Ubuntu is Kubuntu01:42
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HiddenWolfHhhhh, not nessicarily, but it's the easiest way.01:42
Seveasit's just a different set of defaults01:42
Dandelmy wireless works after i completely run all the commands to set it up again but not when i set it up using the tools that are specified on the ubuntu wiki01:42
HiddenWolfHhhhh, kubuntu-desktop is what you'd want01:42
Seveasif you want just KDE it's easier to start with a Kubuntu iso01:42
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cafuego_LasseL: It's repackaged; different file locations. That's illegal under the license.01:42
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Hhhhhseveas, what is the diff between an ubuntu and a kubuntu install?01:42
Xanaduguys I'm writing a review and article on Breezy for Tectonic. If anyone would like to contribute their experiences/impressions/personal involvement please /msg me01:42
Spudchathi guys...where do i go to set the display to a custome resolution?01:42
Hhhhhpackages, etc?01:43
SeveasHhhhh, gnome vs kde01:43
Jenocindaxxar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=gnome+window+manager01:43
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HiddenWolfXanadu, it's not even out yet. ;)01:43
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quendidandel so is there a quick command to reestablish lost network con?01:43
Seveasbut you can easily have both, just install the ubuntu-desktop and kubutu-desktop metapackages01:43
Hhhhhseveas, does ubuntu iso come with kde packages?01:43
cafuego_LasseL: Mind you, there is a packaged blackdown java (1.4) - that is a different license.01:43
foXgamerSpudchat: Go to System|Admin menu01:43
HiddenWolfHhhhh, no it doesn't01:43
XanaduHiddenWolf yeah but the preview has been out for quite a while01:43
SeveasHhhhh, forget that all has to be on the ISO01:43
HiddenWolfXanadu, true. :)01:43
LasseLcafuego_, what is so bad about /opt anyways? couldn't you just package it without modifying it?01:43
Seveasthere is NO RPM HELL in ubuntu :)01:43
cafuego_Hhhhh: The dvd iso would.01:43
Hhhhhnice01:43
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Seveaspackages are extremely easy installable from the central repo01:44
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Hhhhhbesides desktop, is there a diff between ubuntu and kubuntu installs?01:44
Dandelquendi... i don't know... i am forced to run every command all over again01:44
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Hhhhhpackage-wise01:44
cafuego_LasseL: No, because converting it from .bin ro .rpm.bin to .deb and then redistributing it is already against the license.01:44
XanaduHiddenWolf I'd like to run the review as close to the launch as possible01:44
SeveasHhhhh, no01:44
Hhhhhok01:44
HiddenWolfHhhhh, default settings.01:44
Trashcanbahhhh01:44
Trashcanfirestarter keeps saying an unknown error has occured01:44
cafuego_LasseL: www.sun.com -> Feedback for all your gripes.01:44
Seveasand if you install kubuntu, you can install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome too01:44
quendidandel why dont you use the panel? disable and activate01:44
Hhhhhoh, ok01:44
LasseLcafuego_, did you ask?01:44
Dandelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto <<01:44
HiddenWolfXanadu, some oaf on osnews beat you to it, he 'reviewed' it already.01:44
Hhhhhyea, for some reason I prefer kde over gnome, so i guess kubuntu would be a better choice01:45
Dandelthat page over half way down on the adding to network interfaces doesn't help01:45
HiddenWolfXanadu, beats me how you could call that anything but a preview, but still. :)01:45
SeveasHhhhh, just try ubuntu or kubuntu, you'll never go back to fedora :)01:45
XanaduHiddenWolf I already ran a review on the preview edition ;)01:45
Hhhhhubuntu is not rpm based, right?01:45
cafuego_LasseL: Better legal minds than mine can read licenses.01:45
XanaduHiddenWolf but I think my final review will be quite different01:45
cafuego_LasseL: I'm not going to waste my time on it.01:45
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HiddenWolfHhhhh, .deb based01:45
HiddenWolfXanadu, nice01:45
sobersabreany skype users  in here ?01:46
VR^Xanadu: here's the message i get with gparted: A busy device is a device with at least one mounted partition.01:46
VR^Because making changes to a busy device may confuse the kernel, you are advised to reboot your computer.01:46
HiddenWolfHhhhh, based on debian01:46
wastrelubuntu is not rpm basd01:46
VR^it cant resize the partition01:46
quendixanadu my preview's crashed 0 times and had only one crash in the help =)01:46
sobersabreis it possible to have latest skype with breezy ?01:46
HiddenWolfVR^, You're using the disc you're trying to partition?01:46
HiddenWolfsobersabre, should be, but haven't tried myself.01:46
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Hhhhhwhat kernel version and gcc version does 5.04 have?01:46
fr33mindI use Canadian french in keyboard preference.  That's doesn't work in breezy for me.  I don't have accents nor be able to CTRL-ALT-F1 to go in console.  If I go to keyboard pref and press "reset to default" in layout, I have some dialog of errors but my keyboard works.  Any idea wich package I should reinstall?01:46
LasseLcafuego_, perhaps if one just wrote them and asked for permission, or their interpretation of their license if you wish. They may not read it as strict as Stallman01:46
sobersabreHiddenFly, and where "should" it "be" ?01:46
HiddenWolfHhhhh, 5.10 will be out tomorrow01:46
daxxarJenocin, no fluxbox --replace. Guess I'll have to do dot-xsession >(01:46
daxxar:)01:47
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Seveassobersabre, yes it is, but the official packages have a packaging bug01:47
VR^HiddenWolf: i'm trying to resize the ext3 partition on which hoary is installed, and i'm booting off of the livecd01:47
debuggerXanadu, but nevertheless, ubuntu-desktop is really bloated.  it install so many stuff I don't want.  can't you advice on a lighter gnome desktop package?01:47
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HhhhhHiddenWolf, release or preview?01:47
HiddenWolfHhhhh, release01:47
fr33mindOr somebody else have problem with special keyboard?01:47
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Hhhhhoh, nice!01:47
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cafuego_LasseL: Like I said, I'm not going to waste my time on it. Feel free to email them.01:47
Hhhhhi'll wait until tomorrow to dl01:47
fr33mindAm I alone with it?01:47
ubuntukinghello all01:47
HiddenWolfVR^, Guess the livecd is finding / using your swap01:47
sobersabreSeveas, are skype packagers aware of it already  ( if this is libqt3 name..) ?01:47
Hhhhhhow long till kubuntu 5.10 is out as well?01:47
SeveasHhhhh, 5.10 has gcc4/linux2.6.1201:47
VR^HiddenWolf: how can i get around that?01:47
Hhhhhnice, I like 2.6.1201:47
cafuego_Hhhhh: about 36 hours.01:47
Seveassobersabre, no idea and I couldn't care less :)01:47
Hhhhhall right01:47
bigcx2hey all01:48
LasseLcafuego_, I think I will01:48
jeff_debugger, reinstall ubuntu with the server install01:48
bigcx2does anyone successfully installed breezy amd6401:48
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VR^do i even need a swap?01:48
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bigcx2from the iso01:48
fr33mind"XkbLayout"     "ca_enhanced" <<-- I put this in xorg.conf.  It's bad?01:48
Xanadu_stupid darn network!01:48
Xanadu_VR mount -l should list all your mounted partitions01:48
Xanadu_HiddenWolf there have been a lot of changes since preview and I'm just blown away by how good breezy is01:48
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HiddenWolfXanadu, nice to see you like it.01:48
debuggerjeff_, I did. now I want gnome, but a bare bones gnome.  can you advice which package I should install?01:48
TylerDurdenwhere do i install fonts to?01:49
HiddenWolfdebugger, bare bones how?01:49
fangowhen installing breezy (& I also tried hoary) my network interface is not being detected, can anyone help with this??01:49
Xanadu_HiddenWolf are u involved with development at all?01:49
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debuggerHiddenWolf, like, gnome without openoffice. without ephifany.01:49
HiddenWolfTylerDurden, ./.fonts or the like01:49
jeff_debugger: Here is what works best for my little sister's very old computer01:49
fangoCard is in properly, lights on..01:49
VR^Xanadu_: i get a bunch of stuff from mount -l01:49
twosharpwhere do I find the C Header files? or what pavkage are they in? (for hoary)01:49
WinZAnybody knows what does mean "PPP: VJ decompression error" in /var/log/debug ?01:50
jeff_debugger: Do the server install from scratch. The apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:50
HiddenWolfdebugger, comes without ephiphany by default, and you can strip the .debs of openoffice away, altho that will remove the ubuntu-desktop meta-package01:50
HiddenWolfXanadu, I'm a groupie, really.01:50
Jenocindaxxar: http://xwinman.org/basics.php01:50
HhhhhSeveas, one more question, is 64-bit version of ubuntu working well? FC4's 64-bit had a few packages that weren't ported, etc01:50
Xanadu_VR you'll want to umount all of the drives that start with hda, hdb, sda, sdb01:50
Xanadu_HiddenWolf you sure that's all?01:50
jeff_debugger: Then apt-get install nautilus which will pull in most if not all of gnome. Once you are in xfce, open up nautilus so that it displays the desktop and handles hotplugging01:50
VR^Xanadu_: none of them do01:50
jeff_debugger: Then log out of xfce and save your session01:50
Trashcanok i got firestarter configured, but the machine connected to it says 'network cable unplugged'01:51
foXgamerSeveas: I'm using the 64bit version and it works fine :)01:51
daxxarAny package that provides a 'default' set of fluxbox menus?01:51
jeff_debugger: voila! slim gnome01:51
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HiddenWolfXanadu, I've been around for a while, help out here, read lists, wiki, and chat up in -devel, but not a coder. :)01:51
shadrachi have the 5.4 disks01:51
daxxarLike the ones in the gnome desktop01:51
shadrachwill it update to the latest with a dist upgrade?01:51
HhhhhfoXgamer, what about flash?01:51
fangoAnyone, ubuntu is not detecting my nic eth card...?01:51
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Xanadu_VR hmm strange. Did you try resize2fs?01:51
VR^Xanadu_: not yet, no01:51
debuggerjeff_, nice. I'll try that. :)01:51
debuggerjeff_, and thx ;)01:51
VR^i'm thinking of trying my knoppix cd first01:51
cafuego_Hhhhh: Don't expect a Java browser plugin or flash support. DVD playback is a bit dodgy and it's not entirely happy with video (quicktime/avi). The rest works fine.01:52
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p3r4m3ri just installed ubuntu about a week ago whats difference between this one and breezy coming out tommorrow01:52
HiddenWolfdebugger, there should be a gnome package01:52
wastrelfresher software01:52
foXgamercafuego_: It's nice to know I'm not the only one having these problems :D01:52
Xanadu_VR good plan. Stay away from the power tools (aka the tools that can destroy your system with one command) as long as possible01:52
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debuggerjeff_, oh w8, from where is that xubuntu-desktop package?  universe?01:53
cafuego_foXgamer: Basically, badly written proprietary ia32 software has problems.01:53
VR^Xanadu_: will do, thanks01:53
cafuego_foXgamer: Mind you, a flash free web is *great*01:53
Jenocindaxxar: looks to be in /etc/X11/Xsesssion.d somwhere01:53
HiddenWolfdebugger, xubuntu-desktop is universe01:53
jeff_debugger: Yeah I believe so01:53
rob_pTrashcan:  Are you using a cross-over cable?  If you don't have a hub or switch between the hosts, you'll need a cross-over cable.01:53
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shadrachhrm01:53
foXgamercafuego_: Yeah, I don't really use flash, but getting the others to work is a ibt annoying01:53
jeff_p3r4m3r: breezy is sooooooooooo much better. Trust me01:53
debuggerjeff_, how about gnome-desktop-environment ?01:53
jeff_debugger: It should be in main01:54
cafuego_foXgamer: Since about last week, video at least plays though. Can't resize it, but prior to that it didn't even play.01:54
fangowhen installing breezy (& I also tried hoary) my network interface is not being detected, can anyone offer advice?01:54
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Prowerjeff_: Are the packages for the release being made tomorrow available on the repositories yet?01:54
shadrachif i install 5.04 will it upgrade to 5.10 with a dist-upgrade?01:54
debuggerjeff_, what should?01:54
foXgamercafuego_: yes! That's the problem I'm having. I'm relieved that it wasn't down to something I did01:54
daxxarWhat program should be used to change keyboard input language?01:54
naliothPrower: some of them are01:54
sydwhi! Text is typing backwards in ubuntu. Anyone seen that particular issue? It seems to happen in evolution when composing or replying to an email01:54
Prowernalioth: Oh :> I guess I'd better wait then01:54
HiddenWolfdebugger, gnome-desktop-environment will pull ephiphany in01:55
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debuggerHiddenWolf, oh dang! hehe01:55
naliothPrower: go ahead and upgrade. apt-get will keep your system updated from then on01:55
shadrachif i install 5.04 will it upgrade to 5.10 with a dist-upgrade?01:55
foXgamerdaxxar: There is a keyboard layout program with ubuntu and you can change the keyboard in there (and install new languages, layouts, etc)01:55
HiddenWolfdebugger, apt-cache show gnome-desktop-environment01:55
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Prowernalioth: Ahh, yes...that's true, I just figured waiting until the official release is made might have less risk of problems attached to it01:55
daxxarfoXgamer, yes, but what's the name? I havn't got the default menu entires when I'm in fluxbox ;)01:55
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naliothPrower: pssst. there'll be little fixes afterwards for a while01:56
xml-blogSeveas, just when I thought I was home free... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3006 can you lend a hand?01:56
fangoplease anyone now what the best course of action is to take, my network card isnt being detected...01:56
foXgamerdaxxar: From the terminal, use gnome-keyboard-properties01:56
bimberishadrach: no, but it's a simple process ...01:56
foXgamerdaxxar: With the dashes01:57
KiraEveryone please read www.xanga.com/swordangel01:57
daxxarthans01:57
shadrachfinally!01:57
bimberiubotu tell shadrach about upgrade2breezy01:57
shadrachhehe01:57
foXgamernp01:57
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Kirathe latest entry is rather important01:57
shadrachbimberi: is there a list anywhere of known hardware issues?01:57
Hhhhhare there any problems I should be aware of when installing the nvidia drivers?01:57
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HiddenWolfshadrach, for laptops there is a pretty accurate list, desktops, work in progress01:58
fangoplease anyone now what the best course of action is to take, my network card isnt being detected...01:58
foXgamerShadrach: Try looking in the ubuntu wiki, it had hardware lists of what works with ubuntu01:58
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bimberishadrach: not to my knowledge, there is this section on the wiki though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponents01:58
foXgamerfango: See my previous message to shadrach01:58
shadrachcool01:58
HiddenWolfshadrach, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport01:58
shadrachthanks people01:58
daxxarfoXgamer, how do I get it to apply the changes_01:59
daxxar?01:59
KiraIt's not about ubuntu but I thought your guys may be interested to know.01:59
Kiras/your guys/you guys01:59
ubuntukingdoes anybody know how to download files in xchat01:59
HiddenWolfubuntuking, dcc you mean?01:59
orkoi've replcaed a .udeb file on the hoary installer (scsi-extra-modules), but when I make a new CD it complains that md5 fails. I've updated md5sum.txt with a new hash for that file, but it still does it (is there anything else I need to do? is it possible to disable md5 checks on the installer?)01:59
bimberishadrach: sorry, bad link, HiddenWolf has it though :)01:59
ubuntukingHiddenWolf, yeah01:59
foXgamerdaxxar: I just click closed and it changes.01:59
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fangofoXgamer,  what was it, cleared02:00
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Trashcanrob_p : i have the routing machine completely set up, but the machine connected to it says the network cable is unplugged02:00
HiddenWolfubuntuking, have someone send you a file by dcc, should pop up a dialog if you haven't turned ignore on, and it should end up in ~/.xchat2/downloads02:00
Trashcanany idea why it would say that?02:00
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daxxarfoXgamer, my terminals still use an american layout :*02:00
daxxar:*02:00
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foXgamerubuntuking: I know a lot of people have problems with this including me. Haven't found a solution yet.02:00
daxxareh, :(02:00
ubuntukingHiddenWolf, what if i want to download then from packetnews02:00
HiddenWolfubuntuking, there are some options for dcc in the "irc" menu02:01
ubuntukingHiddenWolf, firefox says that it is not  a registered protocol02:01
foXgamerdaxxar: In the  gnome-keyboard-properties, you have to make sure the keyboard you want is selected and at the top of the list.02:01
Jenocindaxxar: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-December/msg01359.html02:01
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daxxarfoXgamer, i deleted the other one02:01
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HiddenWolfubuntuking, no experience with that, I get my stuff off the bots on undernet.02:01
foXgamerdaxxar: You may need to log out and log back in agan.02:01
fangofoXgamer,  what was it, cleared02:01
ubuntukingHiddenWolf, how do u do that?02:02
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foXgamerfanopanic: was what cleared?02:02
daxxarJenocin, thanks. :)02:02
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HiddenWolfubuntuking, depends on the bot. :) but indeed, firefox won't know the protocol.02:02
jalvarezromhello all02:02
xml-blogwhat;s the general idea to understand when trying to resolve a broken dpkg --unpack? I'd love it if someone could teach me to fish ;) the problems i keep running into are all of the pattern: unpacking foo (from foo-x.y.z) dpkg: error processing ... --unpack trying to overwrite /usr/lib/foo which is also in foo-bar-a.b.c - sorry if that's confusing02:02
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Hhhhhare there any problems I should be aware of when installing the nvidia drivers in breezy?02:03
tritiumxml-blog, you have packages with conflictin files02:03
ubuntukingHiddenWolf, thank for the help02:03
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foXgamerxml-blog: look at man apt-get02:03
HiddenWolfubuntuking, sorry, I don't know anything more.02:03
mustard5Hhhhh, not sure I haven't installed them yet02:04
foXgamerHhhhh: It picked up my nvidia card fine02:04
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tritiumxml-blog, the packages are broken (they should not conflict like that).  One usually handles that by using dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/foo.deb02:04
jalvarezromanyone has instaled the integrated graphics card Sis 650 with accelerated graphics?02:04
xml-blogtritium, foXgamer, sorry I seem like such a noob i'm ususally pretty good about sorting these out. I read the man know about pinning and all that. my disconnect is in finding a pattern02:04
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xml-blogtritium, ok that's new to me02:05
daxxarIf gdm is running, but I'm in the console, how can I find it? :)02:05
tritiumxml-blog, you have to be careful forcing things with dpjg02:05
tritiumdpkg02:05
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daxxarOh well, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:05
daxxar;D02:05
rob_pTrashcan:  How are you connecting the machines together?  Are you using a hub or switch?02:05
Xenguydaxxar: Ctrl-Alt-F7 ?02:05
phiqtionMy cpu is stuck at 100%, any help please? any command?02:05
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daxxarXenguy, nope, that was the problem. But thanks. :)02:06
Xenguyphiqtion: run top02:06
foXgamerxml-blog: Don't worry. It's still all new to me too.02:06
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tritiumdaxxar, Xenguy told you correctly, unless gdm wasn't running02:06
Xenguyphiqtion: see what is consuming all that CPU; then 'kill -9' the PID of the process, if necessary02:06
xml-blogtritium, i don't usually use dpkg directly if i can avoid it. this particular error concerns a python lib (wxversion) I've only gotten python from ubuntu so it's just kind of odd to me02:06
HiddenWolfphiqtion, try applications > system tools > system monitor, and track down what's using all your cpu-power02:07
HiddenWolfthen kill it.02:07
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phiqtionXenguy, there's nothing eating the cpu. why is the monitor indicating 100%?02:07
tritiumxml-blog, a bug should be filed on the conflicting packages02:07
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tritiumusers shouldn't have to use --force-overwrite02:07
foXgamerphiqtion: What monitor are you using?02:07
xml-blogtritium, I know the desktop ships with python so I'm kind of lost on how best to proceed. should I remove everything pythonic?02:07
Jenocindaxxar: alt f7? ctrl-alt f7=1st xwindows session02:07
FlyingSquirrel32I've installed ubuntu on a pc without network access... how do I keep it from taking 4 years to boot up?02:07
phiqtionfoxgamer, cpu frequency scaling monitor02:07
Xenguyphiqtion: some process is probably responsible for the CPU consumption02:08
Jenocindaxxar: see u already tried02:08
tritiumxml-blog, nope, better to force the overwrite, and carefully pay attention to what happens02:08
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Dr_WillisFlyingSquirrel32,  could try setting a static ip for it.02:08
foXgamerphiqtion: Try gkrellm. It gives much more information and very reliable02:08
Dr_WillisFlyingSquirrel32,  it may be waiting on the dhcp server02:08
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phiqtionfoxgamer, where can i get it from02:08
foXgamerphiqtion: It should be in the package manager02:09
FlyingSquirrel32Dr_Willis: good idea.. I was thinking ofd disabling, but that may work.02:09
wickedpuppyphiqtion, synaptic02:09
stinkjonesi found dd windows!02:09
z6is there an easy way to enable 'idendt' in xchat?02:09
phiqtionfoxgamer, im dl thanks02:09
foXgamerphiqtion: Failing that, http://gkrellm.net02:09
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stinkjonesthere is a way to install an img file to a hard disk in windows02:09
stinkjonesYAY!02:09
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foXgamerphiqtion: cool. You can get hundreds of skins too, all from the website :D02:10
daxxartritium, well, the gdm process was running, but CTRL + ALT + F7 didn't work (like it usually does)02:10
windexz6, auth/identd is a unix service. not a irc client feature. windows irc clients usually integrate an identd/auth server to make up for the fact its not unix.02:10
quinnIt would seem that Magic SysRq is disabled by default in the AMD64 kernels for both Hoary and Breezy-- is there a reason for this?02:10
athlonFlyingSquirrel32, I'd say, you should just chmod -x ntpdate in /etc/init,d02:10
daxxarsudo gdm said it was running too. So I did a init.d-restart of it, that helped. :)02:10
phiqtionfoxgamer, this is aweome. thanks alot. i will shout if im having trouble using it ok?02:10
foXgamerDoes anyone have trouble with the multiple desktops?02:10
tritiumdaxxar, okay.  You can always "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"02:10
sobersabrefoXgamer, which problems ?02:10
foXgamerphiqtion: No probs! The first time I got it, it was like WOW! And if you need help anytime.02:10
z6windex, when I want to connect to quakenet, it get this error. Install and enable identd before you connect back from this host. Thank you..02:11
z6* Closing Link: z6 by pelikaista.fi.quakenet.org (G-lined)02:11
EasterSunshinecan someone give me an estimate on how much data trasnfer per second there is if i were to run lets say acroread over ssh?02:11
foXgamersobersabre: Well, I was using four desktops, thought I would change the look of the toobar, and I've had to turn them off because I can only access one.02:11
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windexz6, hm. well, you need to install an auth / ident daemon then. or use a diffrent server. its really, really silly to gline/kline non-idented hosts.02:12
phiqtionfoxgamer, can a 100% load harm my cpu?02:12
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naliothphiqtion: nope. not as long as your cooling works02:12
Trashcanany reason for, when i plug this cable into my laptop and the router, the light goes on02:12
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z6windex, Yeah I hate it. Unfortunately it's because of my isp (comcast) that they require it.02:12
Trashcanbut when i plug the cable into my laptop and hte PC02:12
foXgamerphiqtion: No. Not unless its permanently grinding away for months on end!02:12
Trashcanthe light doesn't go on02:12
Trashcanand it says the cable isn't plugged in02:12
Trashcan?02:12
windexz6, do you know how to install packages?02:12
z6yeah02:13
EasterSunshineyou can't connect a laptop to a computer directly by a single cable...02:13
bimberiTrashcan: you need a crossover cable to connect computers directly02:13
phiqtionfoxgamer, i understand. thanks bro02:13
Dr_Willisz6,  ive used serveral mini-identd servers in the past . theres one little one written in about 5 lines of perl code. :P02:13
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windexz6, your choices are .. crap there are tons.02:13
rob_pTrashcan:  Have you been listening?  I've tried to tell you about the cross-over cable twice now.02:13
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z6dr_willis, what's it called?02:14
Trashcanrob_p: i've been disconnected for most of the last 20 minutes02:14
Trashcani probably missed it02:14
Trashcanthanks though02:14
Dr_Willisz6,   i forget. :P googling now.. i havent needed one in years02:14
OrbordeThe RC for Breezy is way non bittorrented...02:14
Trashcanwhat's the reason for the need of a crossover?02:14
rob_pTrashcan:  Ok.  Well anyway, yeah, you need a cross-over cable unless you put a hub or switch between them.02:14
Trashcanalright02:14
Trashcanthanks02:14
windexz6, you can use slidentd, pidentd, oidentd, nullidentd, ident2, gidentd, or bidentd, if you want packages02:14
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windexz6, all of them are slightly diffrent.02:15
zucchi3hi02:15
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OrbordeHow old are the Breezy ISO releases?02:15
naliothOrborde: there are daily images available, if you like02:15
foXgamerOrborde: Not very, but why not wait til the 13th when the new official version is out?02:15
Lord_AthurHow can I mount the floppy driver? but with access for use the floppy disk?02:15
rob_pTrashcan:  Good luck with it.  If you need a cross-over cable, they can be purchased or easily hacked by cutting the TX and RX pairs and then connecting the TX to the RX.02:16
zucchi3Please HELP - I just downloaded a software package - how do I unpack it (or whatever your supposed to do) and run the program?02:16
quinnTrashcan, if it's of interest, Crossover cables have the Transmit and Receive lines on one end swapped around, whereas normal cables have identical ends. It's normally up to the hub or switch to translate between transmit and receive as needed02:16
Orbordenalioth:  Daily what huh?02:16
z6windex, Ok thanks. I'll check them out02:16
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pschulz01Is there any documentation on creating packages for Ubuntu?02:16
OrbordefoXgamer: Yeah, but I've decided to switch over now. I can easily download all patchitude as it emerges.02:16
saik0zucchi3: dkpg -i /path/to/package.deb02:16
foXgamerzucchi3: What is the files extension?02:16
zucchi3what do you mean02:17
naliothOrborde: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com    navigate to 'daily breezy image'02:17
windexpschulz01, loads, follow the links from #ubuntu-motu 's topic.02:17
foXgamerOrborde: Yeah. That's what I'm doing too.02:17
Dr_Willisz6,   i cant even find it now.. it was somthing like 'fakeidentd' or similer.02:17
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saik0zucchi3: you download a .deb package, correct?02:18
zucchi3Oh - it's .gz02:18
pschulz01windex: cheers.02:18
zucchi3http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/games/3dchess02:18
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Dr_Willisz6,  http://lucas.bergmans.us/hacks/fakeident  seems to ne one.. but i saw a smaller one somewhere. :P02:18
z6dr_willis, ok no prob. Thanks for looking02:18
Tobahow can I restart samba in ubuntu?02:18
zucchi3thats the link02:18
zucchi3http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/games/3dchess02:18
Toba!tell me about samba02:18
Dr_Willisz6,  oh wait - 75% of that code is comments. :P lol02:18
z6yeah02:18
cafuego_Toba: sudo /ec/init.d/samba restart02:18
zucchi3I just want to know how to run it02:19
Tobathank you cafuego_02:19
z6I'll try that one02:19
foXgamerzucchi3: 3d Chess is in the synaptic package manager. If you use that, it will install it for you02:19
Tobai'm assuming it's /etc/ not /ec/02:19
Tobayep, works02:19
saik0zucchi3, you can install it using apt. synaptic is a GUI for apt02:19
zucchi3I installed it - but how do I access it to run it?02:19
Dr_Willisand apt is a... front end for dpkg  right?02:19
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foXgamerzucchi3: Open up a terminal and try 3dchess (or the name of the file)02:19
Tobame and my roommate want to share a printer, but I run linux and he runs windows... we almost have it02:20
zucchi3how do you open a terminal?02:20
Tobabut it's saying NT_ACCESS_DENIED02:20
saik0Dr_willis: is it?02:20
Tobadoes anyone here know a lot about that?02:20
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Xanadu_Dr_Willis it's more than that - it also resolves dependencies and other funky stuff02:20
foXgamerzucchi3: Look in the menu for an item named Terminal02:20
daxxarDarn.02:20
Dr_Willissaik0,  not sure.. i think so..  or it calls apt.. ive never gotten the whole pictire.02:20
daxxargnome-keyboard-properties REFUSE to change my, well, gnome keyboard properties.02:20
daxxarbrb.02:20
windexToba, it may be easier to have him share the printer out and then use linux to connect to it02:20
Dr_Willislike how yum uses rpm.  and so forth. :P02:20
zucchi3ok02:20
Tobawindex: that's what we're doing02:21
windexToba, what version of windows?02:21
xiaogilin nautilus, i need to have the editable address bar, how to have it ?02:21
Tobaxp home or pro, I forget which02:21
Tobait would be so much easier in 98 before they put any security in02:21
Tobaheh02:21
foXgamerzucchi3: When I install a new program, I use terminal to run it, that way, you can see all messages. If it runs fine, then you can create an icon for it02:21
windexToba, k, well, does he have a password enabled on it?02:21
Tobaon the printer?02:21
propagandhiToba: if you're getting NT ACCESS DENIED, you should look at the sharing and permissions on the xp box02:21
zucchi3IT DIDN"T WORK02:21
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windexToba, on the printer share.02:21
Tobahe didn't specify one02:21
naliothDr_Willis: apt-get is a program all it's own, which calls dpkg to install and log02:22
Tobabut from what I recall windows xp puts a password on things by default02:22
windexToba, check the properties on it.02:22
foXgamerzucchi3: Hang on a min and I'll install it here and let you know what to do02:22
Dr_WillisLinux is all about Legos and Layers. :P02:22
daxxarAny handy 'default' menu for openbox to get stuff like the administration / system tools of the default gnome menu?02:22
propagandhiToba: set the security on the XP box to allow Everyone full control02:22
zucchi3ok - thanks02:22
Dr_Willislittle programs (legos) building up to be a whole system (layer)02:22
windexzucchi3, so am i, because i want to play chess now, damnit. so i will figure out whats wrong.02:22
Tobapropagandhi: won't that make his box... insecure?02:22
zucchi3ok thanks02:22
Tobaalso, how do you do that02:23
propagandhiToba: its a printer02:23
saik0thats what a a good UNIX(like) machine is composed of...lots of tiny tiny apps that do one thing really well02:23
Tobayes it is02:23
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propagandhiyou're only setting it on the printer02:23
Tobabut where is the setting to say full control02:23
TobaI haven't used xp in months02:23
windexzucchi3, run '3Dc'.02:23
zucchi3how?02:23
propagandhiToba: when you go to the security tab on the properties of the printer02:23
Tobak02:23
Tobabrb02:23
stinkjoneshere's a question for you. How do i find the physical drive name of a Hard  Drive in windows? I hear to use WMI tools from microsoft, but that doesnt work for me02:23
windexzucchi3, in a terminal window, or by going applications -> run application02:24
foXgamerzucchi3: In the terminal again. It has to be case specific - 3Dc not 3dc02:24
zucchi3ok - I got it - THANKS02:24
Tobathere is no security tab02:24
propagandhiits XP Home aint it02:25
saik0Are you running Breezy. Breezy should have a menu editor installed with base....02:25
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zucchi3In the future - is there an easier way to run a program (like an icon or access in the games menu)?02:25
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Tobaoops02:25
Tobaxp pro02:25
Tobanot home02:25
ericzi just burnt the install iso of breezy to CD, i put it in, reboot, and it says "Missing operating system"02:25
propagandhiok02:25
Xanadu_night all!02:25
ericzwhat did i do wrong02:25
propagandhihave u shared the printer though02:25
Seveasericz, HOW did you burn it?02:25
foXgamerzucchi3: Yes, you can use the menu editor to add an icon for the game. Or  right click on the desktop and select Add launcher02:25
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ericzuhh with a cd burner02:26
Tobapropagandhi: yes it's shared02:26
ericzbootable image iso02:26
ksmurfcan anyone suggest a good webcam for linux?  My quickcam messenger SUCKS!(DOA)02:26
foXgamernn xanadu02:26
ericzon xp02:26
kbrooksDOA?02:26
bimberiericz: is your pc bios set to boot off cd02:26
bimberi?02:26
ericzyes02:26
kbrooksksmurf: i heard logitech was good02:26
ericzit said "Missing operating system"02:26
ksmurfI can't get it reconized02:26
propagandhithen you should definitely have security02:26
ericzwith cd in02:26
foXgamerksmurf: I don't know any specific programs, but look in the package manager02:26
propagandhiI do when i look02:26
Tobait's not there though02:26
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ksmurfkbrooks good if you are using windows02:27
Tobathe sharing tab has it set to shared02:27
ericzso what did i do wrong?02:27
phiqtionfoxgamer, the cpu 100% load was from easy ubuntu02:27
Tobabut there is no security tab02:27
zucchi3ok - thanks - when I click add launcher, it says to write the COMMAND - where is it??02:27
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saik0_afksayonara #ubuntu02:27
Totemhello02:27
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foXgamerphiqtion: Were you running it from the cd?02:27
ksmurfFox.... Way past that part... now looking for hardware recomendations02:27
kbrooksksmurf: on linux too02:27
foXgamerhey Totem02:27
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Trashcanthanks rob_p and quinn (a little late :p)02:27
phiqtionfoxgamer, no, it was "downloading the codecs" weird. downloading = 100% cpu load02:27
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Trashcanill just stop by the store tomorrow and pick one up02:28
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Trashcani thought i had a hub laying around, but i guess now02:28
foXgamerphiqtion: cripes! I don't even know mines working half the time! lol02:28
Trashcannot*02:28
rob_pTrashcan:  No problem.  Good luck :-)02:28
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zucchi3Where is it located?02:28
ericzcan anyone tell me what's wrong? i put in a ubuntu breezy install cd i just burned and it's says "Missing operating system" when i put the cd and want to install breezy02:28
bimberiericz: can you open the cd now, how many files on it?02:29
ericzuhh02:29
ericzhold on02:29
daxxarWhat the!?02:29
foXgamerzucchi3: Where is what located? Are you trying to create a launcher for 3dchess? IF so, you can just use the command 3Dc02:29
daxxargnome-keyboard-properties REFUSE to give me norwegian keys. :|02:29
zucchi3ok - thanks a ton02:29
ericzim on redhat 8 right now, thats whats installed on the pc i want to put breezy on02:29
bimberiericz: rephrase - is there more than one file on it?02:29
cafuego_daxxar: xcellent02:29
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ksmurfhey foX... You get BF2 going yet?02:29
ericz/mnt/cdrom is empty like theres nothing on it but redhat8 blows02:29
daxxarcafuego_, hm? :/02:30
foXgamerdaxxar: That seems really strange. Have you tried looking on the ubuntu forums for similar problems?02:30
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foXgamerksmurf: BF2?02:30
TotemI just upgraded from hoary to breezy rc.  How do I update my repositories?02:30
daxxarfoXgamer, not yet. Going to bed. :|02:30
foXgamerokaly :)02:31
ksmurffoX ..... sorry mistaken you.02:31
ericzthis sucks02:31
foXgamerhehe. That's okay ksmurf02:31
ericzi spent like an hour downloading breezy iso, burn it, then it gives me missing operating system02:31
Dr_Willisi was playing BF2 last night for severla hours. :P02:31
foXgamerWhat's BF2?02:31
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Trashcanbattlefield 202:32
ksmurffoX ..... Battlefield 202:32
foXgamerah!02:32
foXgamersounds fun02:32
budluvaanyone know how its possible to pass a command to xfree before it launches? i have an old monitor and have to manually adjust the gamma via xgamma and was wondering how to do this at boot or while xfree loads02:32
saik0_afkShameless fanboyism: check out tacticalgamer.com02:32
Trashcanit would be if i didn't have a bloody 1.6ghz cpu ;p02:32
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ksmurfThe only reason I still have windoze02:32
foXgamerbudluva: When the computer boots up, do you have grub?02:33
budluvayes02:33
nemopaiceI have windows on first HD and Ubuntu on second. Before I can get rid of windows I need to fid a way to transfer fy files. ......How can I access my other HD with windows on it from Linux?02:33
budluvanemopaice, mount the windows drive via linux02:33
foXgamerbudluva: Then you should be able to set up a configuration file that will load the correct settings for you02:33
nemopaiceOK, but where do I go to do this02:34
foXgamerksmurf: Damn. I can't play :(02:34
z6is there any way to use the file browser with 'root' (sudo) privileges?02:34
budluvanemopaice, boot to ubuntu, then mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdcX /mount/whereever/you/want02:34
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bimberinemopaice: !mountwindows02:34
bimberier02:34
budluvanemopaice, /dev/hdcX is your windows drive02:34
bimberiubotu tell nemopaice about mountwindows02:34
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budluvafoXgamer, you know of a howto somewhere about making boot config files?02:35
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xilusholas02:35
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foXgamerbudluva: hmm. I don't know off any off hand, you could try the ubuntu website.02:36
nemopaiceThank you very much "ubutu", "bimberi", and "budluva"02:36
budluvafoXgamer, na, found one on linuxquestions.org02:36
ericzcany someone help me out, i think i just wasted about 2 hours... i downloaded the breezy install iso, burned it to cd02:37
budluvafoXgamer, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=6238202:37
ericzthen i put it in my computer02:37
ericzand it just says02:37
foXgamerbudluva: cool. Or try http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-grub-commands.html It's for redhat, but should be the same with grub02:37
ericz"missing operating system"02:37
TodFlandersericz is your bios et to boot from hard drive02:37
ericzno it boots from CD02:37
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TodFlandersand also did you hit make disc from image or just vopy the iso to a cd?02:37
ericzthe boot order is like cd, floppy, then hard drive02:37
ericzi made the cd bootable02:38
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ericzwhat did i do wrong02:38
wickedpuppyFailed to play: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.02:38
wickedpuppyanyone been getting this error from totem ?02:38
TodFlanderswricz do you have another cokmputer to put it in?02:38
TylerDurdenthis is really urgent :O my dad has a windows laptop and to that is connected the only printer. how can i print something off my computer but so it goes through his pritner?02:38
ericzyes02:38
ericzit didnt work on windows xp sp202:38
ericzor redhat 802:38
ericzboth had same error02:39
wickedpuppytotem in winxp ?02:39
ericzi don't know what the fuck i did02:39
tristanmikeericz, language please, this is a family channel02:39
ericzsorry, but i kinda wasted 2 hours02:39
TodFlandersit should work aslong as your cdrom suports boot and you have to burn the iso a special way02:39
foXgamerericz: Has the cd been checked with the checksum?02:39
ericzuhh02:40
ericzno?02:40
ericzhow would i go about that02:40
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TylerDurdenguys please help02:40
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TodFlanderstyler go to add printer wizard and try to add a smb printer02:40
TodFlandersyou must share the printer from xp though02:40
foXgamerericz: All iso images come with a checksum file so that you can check if it's okay. If the numbers don't match, something wrong. The checksum is usually in the same place where you get the iso image02:40
TotemI'm using x-chat02:41
bimberiTylerDurden: share the printer (on XP), then connect to it via System -> Admin -> Printing02:41
ericzi got it from ubuntulinux.org02:41
saik0TylerDurden: is it shared on the windows PC?02:41
wickedpuppyalright .. in mplayer my screen is no more than a 5 inch .. anyone knows how I enlarge it ?02:41
TylerDurdenno i dont know how to share it02:41
naliothubotu: tell ericz about verify02:41
z6is there any way to use the file browser with 'root' (sudo) privileges? So i can delete files that I would otherwise not be able to?02:42
Falstiuswickedpuppy, "f" will make it full screen02:42
TodFlanderswickedpuppy you mean the video is small no matter if its fullscreen?02:42
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wickedpuppyyes02:42
sberarddid anyone else running breezy do an update today and lose the firefox start page again02:42
TodFlandersyes to samll in fullscreen?02:42
bimberiTylerDurden: you're stretching us with windows support - ask the paperclip02:42
foXgamerwickedpuppy: That's a common problem.02:42
erickguys where is naliot02:42
wickedpuppythe playing screen .. not the mplayer screen ....is way too small02:42
TylerDurden=/ i really gotta pring it02:42
TodFlanderswicked have you changed output codecs?02:42
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foXgamerwickedpuppy: Yes, I can maximize the window, but not the actual video playing. It is a known problem.02:43
wickedpuppyi think no ...02:43
wickedpuppyah k02:43
wickedpuppythanks foXgamer02:43
foXgameranytime :) Let's hope they fix it :)02:43
saik0 heh i just /msg-ed ubotu with 'help' and he said o help on .  Use 'help' without arguments.....is that some sort of joke?02:43
TodFlandersi can have full screen video only if  i use "xv" output driver02:43
ericzhas anyone seen/heard about the error "missing operating system" before?02:44
FalstiusfoXgamer, I had that problem too.  Magically it started working at one point (and still works)02:44
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TodFlandersericz that means its trying to boot of your harddrive which has no os02:44
TodFlandersits skipping he cd for somereason02:44
foXgamererick: Not with an iso cd. Only if it was a straight copy.02:44
ericzredhat8 is installed02:44
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saik0/quick "gotta go!"02:44
foXgamerFalstius: hopefully I can keep trying and eventually it'll work then.02:44
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ericzif i put the cd in, i get the error, without the cd in, it goes to grub then to redhat 802:45
TodFlandersfoX have you changed output drivers?02:45
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foXgamerTodFlanders: I have, yes. Unfortunately I still havent had any luck02:45
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TodFlandershmm mplayer is good over here02:45
ericzthe bios boot order is cd first, floppy second, then HD02:45
bimberiTylerDurden: usually it's opening the control panel, navigating to printers, right-click on the desired printer and select sharing02:46
ericzso it should be booting from CD :/ but i get "missing operating system"02:46
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Hobbseeericz: did the cd burn correctly, ie did it get the correct checksum?02:46
wickedpuppyfoXgamer, i managed to make the playing screen to full screen ... in the settings go to video and change to xv driver :P and restart mplayer02:47
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ericzwell the cd size is the file size of the iso02:47
ericzi guess02:47
naliothericz: did you read the verify howto uboto linked to you?02:47
ericzi dont get that whole checksum thing02:47
naliothericz: ubotu sent you a msg02:47
ericzi know02:47
ericzi dont get the site02:47
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TodFlandersyeah wicked thats the fix that worked for me aswell02:47
naliothericz: md5 checksums are an integral part of *nix02:47
ericzi dont know where to find those md5sums  or whatever02:47
naliothericz: they are on the same page you d/l the iso from02:48
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ericzi didn't see them02:48
TylerDurdenwhen i try to do admin->printing it says CUPS could not be started02:48
TylerDurdencontacted*02:48
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naliothericz: scroll down on the page02:48
ericzohH!02:48
ericzwhen on windows xp, and i explore the cd, should i see anything?02:49
bimberiyes02:49
ericzit was just empty, but there was space taken on the cd02:49
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ericz600 something mb taken, but exploring - it was a blank window02:49
TylerDurdenbimberi when i try to go to system->admin->priting it claims that the CUPS server could not be contacted02:49
K-Richseems i can't use ffmpeg to capture from my webcam at /dev/video0 cause of no v4l1 , only v4l202:49
Hobbseeericz: it should show you that there's ubuntuetc.iso on there02:49
foXgamererick: Try selecting show all files, or show hidden files.02:49
ericzi did choose show hidden files02:50
bimberiTylerDurden: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys start02:50
ericzwas just empty, but theres like 600+ mb taken02:50
naliothericz: check your md502:50
ericzim trying to02:50
naliothericz: you in windows atm?02:50
TylerDurdennot working bimberi02:50
bimberi"not working"?02:51
AaronMTHey when breezy comes out and we download the updates automatically, does it update the kernel too?02:51
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TylerDurdensame error02:51
ericzim in redhat802:51
ericzatm02:51
foXgamerAaronMT: Yes it will02:51
phiqtionhow can i see the a folder in my home directory which starts with a . ?02:51
foXgamerphiqtion: Go into the menu and select show hidden files02:51
TodFlanderstyler can you acces the latop? If so can you just email it and open it their, I know it doesnt answer your question but if you need it printed soon it may be easier02:51
naliothericz: ah, you should be able to run "md5sum /dev/cdrom0" or whatever your cdrom device is02:51
phiqtionfoxgamer, thanks bro02:52
naliothphiqtion: in a terminal or gui?02:52
TylerDurdenTodFlanders, thats what i tried, but the fonts and page were messed up, thats why i want to print off my computer02:52
TodFlanderswhat application02:52
Hobbseephiqtion: you can type in the file path too, and it will get it02:52
TodFlandersopenoffice?02:52
TylerDurdenwindows is using word02:52
TodFlandersexport to pdf02:52
TylerDurdenoh good idea ill try that02:52
bimberiTodFlanders: good thinking!!! :)02:53
TodFlandersand open in adobe on windows, open office will pdf it and keep fints02:53
TylerDurdentheres no pdf option02:53
ericzgetting md5sum...02:53
ericzits being all slow02:53
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windexyes there is, TylerDurden02:53
windexits not in the print settings, its under save as pdf, or export to pdf02:53
windexcan't remember.02:53
TodFlandersunder file, export to pdf in Oo02:53
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ericzhow long should it take to run "md5sum /dev/cdrom"02:53
erickgud morning GUYS hows your morning02:54
TylerDurdenoh i looked under save as02:54
windexericz, awhile.02:54
ericzgreat02:54
ericzi haven't wasted enough time02:54
TodFlandershehe I havent got my printer up either, to lazy and pdf has saved me a few times02:54
windexericz, just smile and reflect on how great life has been so far to where you can be worried about things like installing an OS on a PC.02:54
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bimberibeautifully put windex02:55
ericzha02:55
naliothericz: just a few minutes02:55
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ericzthe whole gpgp pgpgp commands or whatever were being weird on me02:55
ericzi skipped that step :P02:55
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Turco_Guitarhi all, linux lovers...02:56
Hobbseehello :)02:56
ericzi can run md5sum on the .iso file02:56
Turco_Guitarhow r u02:56
ericzand it should be identical right?02:56
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foXgamerhey Turco_Guitar & Hobbsee02:56
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Hobbseehi foXgamer02:57
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ericzthe uh cd drive stopped being loud... and theres still been no output from the md5sum /dev/cdrom command02:57
Kris_kon DamnSmallLinux you think i can run wine ? lol02:57
hircushi all02:57
Turco_Guitarhi foXgamer02:57
hircusanyone running an AMD Turion laptop here?02:57
Hobbseehircus: no, but what do you want to know?02:57
ericz[root@localhost eric] # md5sum /dev/cdrom02:57
ericzmd5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error02:57
hircusI get a similar error to this:02:57
hircushttp://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0510.0/0458.html02:57
ericzperfect02:57
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Dr_Willishircus,  in fact i am02:58
Dr_Willishircus,  its a Compaq V231102:58
hircusDr_Willis: I've not tried Ubuntu on this laptop, but older kernels (on Fedora, at least) works fine with no_timer_check02:58
naliothericz: it may be cdrom0 or cdrom1 or seomthing02:58
hircusDr_Willis: ah. I have the L2000 - same computer, pretty much02:58
ericzk its worth the 1.5 - 2 months of waiting for shipped cd's02:58
ericzcdrom0 and cdrom1 dont exist02:58
Dr_Willisuse the  'noapic' and 'nolspic'  - is what i needed to do02:59
ericzand the cd drive was being noisy when i ran it on 'cdrom'02:59
hircusDr_Willis: installed using the RC install ISO.. X would not start either02:59
Dr_Willisi think.02:59
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Dr_Willis:P02:59
ericzso my cd is crap02:59
Dr_Willisfor X - i DID get the ati drivers working02:59
ericzill wait for shipit ones02:59
hircusDr_Willis: noapic, nolspic *and* no_timer_check, or just the first two?02:59
Dr_Williswith 3d :P02:59
naliothericz: or your cdrom drive is crap02:59
ericzprobly both02:59
foXgamerericz: is it a dvd drive?02:59
ericzno02:59
windexericz, it sounds to me like your cdrom drive has issues, can you md5 the iso?02:59
hircusDr_Willis: neat! how about suspend/resume?02:59
Dr_Willisjust the first 2. i dont see what No_timer would hurth02:59
hircusDr_Willis: ah ok. last time I needed no_timer_check and nothing else02:59
Dr_Willishircus,  i disable suspend and resume on ALL my laptops. :P even under windows.. it just works cruddy03:00
ericzim trying to md5sum the iso now03:00
warpforgeHelp: Evolution 2.4.1 won't send via SMTP:03:00
warpforge(evolution:19322): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter.03:00
warpforge(evolution:19322): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed03:00
warpforgecamel-imap-provider-ERROR **: file camel-imap-command.c: line 180 (imap_command_start): assertion failed: (store->ostream)03:00
hircussomebody claimed that it worked on Fedora if you pass some funny settings. not that important yet though03:00
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windexwarpforge, do not paste.03:00
hircusDr_Willis: is this on i386 or AMD64?03:00
ericz[root@localhost eric] # md5sum ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso03:00
ericzb9b73ed7aebdd0fdf5bfdfe26d6679de  ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso03:00
Hobbseeericz: even from windows, you should see ubuntu_5.10_whatever.iso as being on the cd.  windows wont know how to open it, but you should definetly be able to see it from windows explorer, without showing hidden files03:00
ericzyeah i couldnt see it on windows03:00
warpforgeI'm on 5.10 i68603:00
Dr_Willishircus,  its kernel bugs/issues we are dealing with here.. im using the i386 disrto of ubuntu. the 5.10 release.03:01
ericzi used some weird program to burn the cd03:01
windexericz, if you can't see it on windows the image and/or cd is hosed. have you tried making another copy? this one might just be a coaster03:01
ericzid never heard of the program but it had bootable image burning which apparently doesnt work03:01
naliothericz: check your md5 on the .iso image you downloaded03:01
ericzi did nalioth03:01
ericz[root@localhost eric] # md5sum ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso03:01
ericzb9b73ed7aebdd0fdf5bfdfe26d6679de  ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso03:01
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windexerick, you just have to burn the image. you do not need to do anything special with the bootable part, the image is bootable already03:01
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Dr_Willis'burn at once' is a nice tool for windows to burn iso files.03:01
hircusDr_Willis: will have to try that when I have time. Does X work with the vesa driver without the noapic, nolspic settings? that's probably my problem03:01
windexerr03:01
cafuego_ericz: Does that match the published md5sum?03:01
windexericz,03:01
ericzuhh let me check03:02
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hircusDr_Willis: I probably don't want to mess with 3D acceleration for now .. unless there are .debs for those online03:02
warpforgeCan anyone help me with my libcamel problem?03:02
ericzyes03:02
cafuego_ericz: Is localhost already running Ubuntu?03:02
Dr_Willishircus,  yea it worked for me.. clock was too fast :P however.. i THINK ya need to change the vesa to 'ati' and   enabvle the 'no hardware acell' option however.03:02
ericzno03:02
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ericzredhat803:02
cafuego_ericz: aiyee ;-)03:02
ericzheh03:02
Dr_Willishircus,  took me 2 min to get the ati stuff working from the repos.03:02
cafuego_ericz: Did you bun it under redhat?03:02
Dr_Willis:P03:02
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ericzim going to wait on shipit03:02
ericzno windows03:02
hircusah. so the auto-detected settings actually work (Ubuntu chose ati for me)03:02
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hircusDr_Willis: so I have to manually edit xorg.conf and pass .. err, what's the no hardware accel option03:03
ericzsee-ya.... ill be back in 2 months when shipit delivers 'em and spaz out about how great breezy is03:03
ericzthanks for trying to help :/03:03
windexericz, i think your problem can still be fixed.03:03
hircusDr_Willis: Option "NoAccel" .. got it03:03
ericzim too lazy to reburn03:03
hircusDr_Willis: thanks a bunch!03:03
ericzlater03:04
Dr_Willishircus,  or just install the flgrx stuff -- much easier :P03:04
warpforgeNow, how about my Evolution issue...03:04
windexhe clearly hasn't spent much time burning cd's. i have about a 5% coaster rate.03:04
windexheh03:04
hircusDr_Willis: the driver's different, though, right?03:04
Dr_Willisnot sure on the 64bit disrto . im useing the 32.03:04
hircusDr_Willis: or is the fglrx Debian package for both the normal ATI cards *and* the X200 ?03:04
hircusDr_Willis: oh, I'm using the 32-bit distro03:04
foXgamerwindex: hehe. You're right there! I have a mobile of them03:04
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Dr_Willisi used the ubuntu 32bit packages.. followign the ubuntu binary driver howto/wiki03:05
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hircusDr_Willis: Sticking to Fedora for now on 64-bit (triple-booting), I don't want to have to install a chroot to get Flash03:05
warpforgefglrx doesn't mention support of X20003:05
Dr_Williswarpforge,   i know.. i was suprised when it worked.03:05
zucchi3Where do you recommend to go to download free applications and games?03:05
hircuswarpforge: yup, as far as I know ATI still has two separate drivers03:05
Dr_Willisbut its working on my V2311  x200m even.03:05
windexzucchi3, uh, synaptic is pretty much your best bet. :)03:06
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hircusDr_Willis: the packager probably packaged both drivers. The Livna.org packager for Fedora said that since ATI promised the drivers will be merged, he didn't want to do it03:06
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hircusDr_Willis: but many thanks!03:06
Dr_Willisat least you know theres HOPE!03:06
hircusgot to go try this out now.03:06
Dr_Willis:P03:06
zucchi3any good websites???03:06
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Dr_Williszucchi3,  google.com :P03:06
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zucchi3k03:06
Dr_Willis'linux game tome'03:06
foXgamerzucchi3: Go to http://sourceforge.net/index.php03:06
warpforgeCan someone please help with my Evolution / libcamel issue?03:07
zucchi3k03:07
Hobbseezucchi3: synaptic as well, it has plenty of descriptions03:07
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Hobbseewarpforge: not enough info for anyone to help you03:07
warpforgeWhenever Evolution sends via SMTP on my system, Evolution crashes.03:07
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warpforgeRunning Evo via shell reveals an assert failure03:08
warpforgein libcamel03:08
warpforgeThis didn't happen before03:08
warpforgeWhat am I supposed to do? There's obviously a problem with my libcamel, but I can't force the version back in Synaptec.03:09
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warpforgeStuff like this shouldn't be breaking this late in Breezy.03:10
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wickedpuppywarpforge, its always like this ... first week of release is usually full of bugs03:13
wickedpuppywe are not even in release yet ...03:14
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warpforgeI know, but it's silly that a bug like this is in the repository 2 days before release03:14
ajmitch_and have you filed a bug?03:15
warpforgeNot yet. I'm going to replace my libcamel to see if it fixes it first.03:15
warpforgeI'm getting a newer version from Debian03:16
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brennerer, using debian packages is a no-no afaik03:16
ajmitch_and what was the assertion failure?03:17
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sydw_anyone having trouble with mozilla-firefox packages?03:17
martinchoHi, cant use opengl headers on ubuntu03:17
warpforgeone sec03:17
martinchohow can I get it?03:17
sydw_ trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox03:17
ajmitch_martincho: hoary? breezy?03:17
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warpforgeHere's the assertion failure:03:18
warpforgecamel-imap-provider-ERROR **: file camel-imap-command.c: line 180 (imap_command_start): assertion failed: (store->ostream)03:18
kraxubuntu has no root account?03:18
warpforgenope03:18
martinchowell, dunno, the free cd of ubuntu03:18
warpforgewell, sorta no03:18
FlyingSquirrel32where can i get w32codecs.deb?03:18
martinchoIm new at this03:18
kraxi mean i can sudo stuff03:18
kraxbut as far as just logging on as root and stuff you cannot right?03:18
ajmitch_warpforge: put that in the bugreport, please :)03:18
kraxhow do i activate the universe mirrors in synaptic?03:19
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brennerkrax: yes, it's disabled by default03:19
warpforgeFlyingSquirrel: Win32 codecs: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs03:19
brennerubotu: tell krax about root03:19
DMFDSandmanhow much space should i partition for ubuntu?03:20
brennerkrax: mirror?  or just enabling it?03:20
wabblekrax: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , remove the # in front of what you want03:20
warpforgekrax: you have to set the root password if you really want to use root03:20
warpforgeYou really don't ever need true root access03:20
kraxbrenner-im trying to troubleshoot a dns problem. i just install breezy and i can go to ubuntu's ws but nothing else03:20
kraxeverything else is timing out03:20
kraxso i have net access.. i can ping sites and go to that site using the ip address from a ping03:21
kraxhowever, the name resolution is ineffective as it just times out03:21
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sydw_package updates for mozilla-firefox have destroyed firefox03:21
sydw_i have no web browser03:21
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Hobbseesydw_: you're updating to 1.0.7?03:21
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sydw_:-(03:21
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sydw_Hobbsee, yes03:21
wabblesydw_: install epiphany03:21
Hobbseenah, you dont have to do that03:22
warpforgeHere's the trick for fixing FF: remove the firefox and mozilla-firefox packages. They conflict. Then, select mozilla-firefox and install it.03:22
zucchi3I don't know what setting I changed but now, everytime I open Synamptic Package Viewer I get this error message - W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:22
zucchi3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:22
zucchi3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:22
zucchi3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:22
zucchi3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:22
brennerzucchi3: DONT paste in here03:22
Hobbseezucchi3: pastebin!03:22
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Madpilot!tell zucchi3 about pastebin03:22
kraxany suggestions?03:22
zucchi3What should I do?03:22
warpforgekrax: what do you get for "dig google.com"?03:22
wabblesydw_: repair don't work? Does it show up under broken in synaptic?03:22
Hobbseesydw_: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox firefox03:23
Toma-flood-arific03:23
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Hobbseesydw_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox03:23
warpforgeso what hobbsee said03:23
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Hobbseesydw_: and it will work beautifully :)  Everyone had that problem03:23
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zucchi3what should I do?03:23
warpforgeBut this firefox issue is a BIG problem. It broke my dist-upgrade to Breezy03:23
brennerDMFDSandman: up to you....typcial install is 1.5Gb iirc.....you might want to create a seperate home partition as well03:23
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sydw_Hobbsee, thanks.03:24
kraxbrenner-any idea about this dns issue i'm having?03:24
Hobbseesydw_: no problems :) tell us how it goes03:24
warpforgezucci: run "sudo apt-get update"03:24
zucchi3how03:24
zucchi3?03:24
warpforgeeither click "refresh" in synaptec03:24
Hobbseezucchi3: in a console03:24
DMFDSandmanbrenner, thanks03:24
warpforgeor type what I quoted in a console03:25
brennerkrax: no....i have no clue about network issues. sorry03:25
brennerkrax: warpforge seems to be able to help though03:25
kraxunable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?03:25
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warpforgedo you have update manager running?03:25
warpforgeclose it03:25
kraxok.. one sec03:25
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AES_24_96anyone bored enough to help out a noob?03:26
kraxhow do i close it?  im a newb sorry :(03:26
kraxright clicking isn't working03:26
foXgamerwhat's the problem AES_24_96 ?03:26
EPSONLX300i need to know what driver i used for EPSON LX 300 ? for ubuntu 5.04 ?03:26
warpforgekrax: you have to close the warning box first03:26
martinchoI have Hoary, how can I install opengl headers?03:26
naliothAES_24_96: just ask the channel a question03:26
RockyBurthm.. .why is it that on breezy right now if i apt-get a new pkg, it doesn't update my menu until after i log out and log back in again?03:26
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kraxthey're all closed03:26
zucchi3thanks03:27
AES_24_96foXgamer, Im installing for the first time, I burned the ubunto cd in Nero, and had it make it a boot disc03:27
EPSONLX300anybody can help me?03:27
warpforgekrax: you don't see anything open on your task bar?03:27
AES_24_96when I boot with it, I cant find on the cd any file to invoke to start the installation03:27
EPSONLX300i need to install my driver for printer03:27
naliothRockyBurt: you can restart your gnome-panel03:27
kraxtask bar on the top right i do have the updater03:27
kraxbut i can't close it for some reason03:27
mustard5AES_24_96, which version?03:27
RockyBurtnalioth: hrm, but i shouldn't have to do that, should i?03:27
warpforgekrax: the icon in the tray isn't a problem03:27
kraxok03:27
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warpforgeonly when you have the main window open03:28
AES_24_96hoary hedgehog03:28
kraxalright03:28
naliothRockyBurt: no you shouldnt03:28
kraxthe icon is there03:28
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mustard5k03:28
warpforgekrax: it's red?03:28
kraxi was told to fix this problem i need to install resolvconf, pump and dnsmasq03:28
kraxyes03:28
foXgamerAES_24_96: Burning the disk with the iso file would make the cd bootable so you shouldn't need to invoke any files.03:28
naliothRockyBurt: but we all suffer the same problem03:28
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kraxi just install breezy about 4 hours ago03:28
kraxhaven't messed with it too much03:28
EPSONLX300nobody cares my probs03:28
EPSONLX300:(03:28
warpforgekrax: you shouldn't have to install anything to get basic DNS functionality03:28
zucchi3In Synaptic Package Manager - whats the difference between multiverse, universe, and the ones that have neither??03:28
kraxright but check this out03:28
warpforgeare you on a wired connection?03:29
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kraxyes03:29
foXgamerwhat is the prob EPSONLX300 ?03:29
warpforgeokay03:29
warpforgekrax: can you ping your DNS server?03:29
AES_24_96foXgamer I tried buring it as an iso, and it wouldnt even boot then03:29
kraxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569003:29
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AES_24_96foXgamer I sahould say this is a dual boot setup03:29
dooglusAES_24_96: is your BIOS set up to boot from the CD first?03:29
AES_24_96yes03:29
warpforgekrax: reading your post03:29
EPSONLX300i ask what is the right driver for this EPSON LX 300 for linux?03:29
foXgamerDual boot shouldn't matter.03:29
mustard5AES_24_96, burning it as an iso is what you are meant to do03:29
EPSONLX300im newbie foXgamer03:29
AES_24_96it boots fine if I use the nero boot disk thing03:29
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kraxok what im trying to do is step one03:29
rubemhi there all03:30
zucchi3anyone??03:30
foXgamerand you would like help EPSONLX300 ?03:30
dooglusAES_24_96: what does "boots fine" mean to you?03:30
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EPSONLX300its my pleasure foXgamer03:30
AES_24_96it goes tro dos and lets me type stuff03:30
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RockyBurtnalioth: so is this a recent bug? because i seem to recall this working last week03:30
AES_24_96if I boot off just the iso it says non system disk, replace with system disk03:30
rubemi've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?03:30
dooglusAES_24_96: going into DOS isn't "fine".  you want it to go into the ubuntu installer...03:30
EPSONLX300help me out to print my printer EPSON LX 30003:30
zucchi3anyone?03:30
Hobbseezucchi3: google it03:30
naliothRockyBurt: really? on some pkgs i've never had it work03:30
zucchi3ok03:31
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dooglusAES_24_96: if you boot into windows and look at the contents of the disk you burned as an ISO, what do you see?03:31
warpforgekrax: If you're having problems with changing DNS configurations, I recommend installing "network-manager." It will configure a local DNS server and abstract away the configuration changes from your main Linux network system.03:31
AES_24_96dooglus, ok how do I make it go into the ubuntu installer, it wont boot from the iso for me, though itll boot if I drop system disk files on no problem03:31
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brennerzucchi3: er, no need to google:03:31
zucchi3ok03:31
brennerubotu: tell zucchi3 about components03:31
foXgamerEPSONLX300: Printer eh? I don't know anything, but give me a min and I'll see what I can find out. I get a printer tomorrow so I would like to know too :)03:31
kraxok how do i do that?03:31
warpforgekrax: do you want synaptec or console instructions?03:32
EPSONLX300hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm03:32
kraxwhichever is easier03:32
kraxconsole03:32
warpforgeokay03:32
kraxhit me with the console.. i might as well get used to it right03:32
dooglusAES_24_96: did you see my question?03:32
warpforgefirst, "sudo apt-get update" (this is just to get you up to date)03:33
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AES_24_96dooglus md5sum.txt, README.diskdefines, ubuntu and some directories03:33
zucchi3????????03:33
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warpforgekrax: oh wait... you'll have trouble with repositories if your DNS doesn't work03:33
kraxwell it's getting the ones that are directly from ubuntu03:33
kraxfor some reason03:33
warpforgeokay03:33
dooglusAES_24_96: ok, that's how it should be.  i don't know why it isn't working.  do you have another CD drive you could try?03:33
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Hobbseebrenner: thanks for that, didnt know that it was a command03:33
kraxlet me see if it works03:33
Toma-are the ubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop deb's just dummy packages?03:33
wastrelhello my precious little darlings03:33
AES_24_96maybe03:33
rubemi've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?03:34
warpforgekrax: then, "sudo apt-get update," if you haven't already03:34
AES_24_96copuld there be something in my bios which wont allow iot to see linnux or something?03:34
kraxi am trying.. it worked earlier now it's resolving security.ubuntu to 1.0.0.003:34
warpforgekrax: second, "sudo apt-get install network-manager"03:34
dooglusAES_24_96: try booting it in a different PC.  it won't install anything until you tell it to - just booting is OK03:34
warpforge1.0.0.0?03:34
AES_24_96ok03:34
AES_24_96bbiab03:34
rubemi've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?03:34
brennerwastrel: you in the right channel? ;)03:35
krax0ackage network-manager is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:35
kraxis only available from another source03:35
kraxE: Package network-manager has no installation candidate03:35
Xenguyhaha03:35
eXcentraHi guys. I'm trying to extract some files from an archive but the filenames are in a foreign language and so it won't let me extract them. How can I extract them?03:35
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rubemi've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?03:35
kraxthe update is done but i get that when i try to install network-manger03:35
kraxmanager*03:35
Xenguyrubem: should be, yes03:35
kevogodrubem, Usually.03:35
warpforgekrax: one sec03:36
mustard5rubem, what program is notifying you of the update?03:36
warpforgekrax: have you enabled "universe"?03:36
Xenguyrubem: I believe I already did (hoary) - so far so good03:36
brennerrubem: what's your current kernel, and what's it suggesting?03:36
foXgamerEPSONLX300: Try at http://www.linuxprinting.org/epson-faq.html#s_1703:36
kevogodHas Rhythmbox ceased to work for anyone in Breezy? I get a Segmentation Fault now.03:36
kraxnope03:37
warpforgekrax: do this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:37
warpforgewait03:37
warpforgesorry03:37
warpforgethat's for hoary03:37
Hobbsee!faq03:37
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/03:37
Hobbseethere are lists of repositories for breezy there03:38
warpforgekrax: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"03:38
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warpforgekrax: uncomment the "universe" repositories03:38
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Seveas!tell warpforge about ubuntuguide03:39
EPSONLX300okey foXgamer03:39
foXgamerEPSONLX300: Did that help?03:39
Toma-when installing a kernel update, do you need to reconfigure the nvidia drivers package?03:39
kraxok03:39
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Toma-or anything crazy liek that?03:39
zblachhello03:39
zblach!ping03:39
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, zblach.03:39
rubembreener: sugesting 2.6.1003:39
kraxnow giv eit a go?03:39
muszekhello03:39
Toma-*like03:39
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mustard5Toma-, commercial drivers I thin kyou do03:39
rubemmustard5: the ubuntu03:39
warpforgekrax: then, "sudo apt-get update"03:39
Toma-rightio thanks03:39
warpforge(once you've saved)03:40
eXcentraI'm trying to extract some files from an archive but the filenames are in a foreign language and so it won't let me extract them. How can I extract them?03:40
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doogluseXcentra: what kind of archive?03:40
kraxwhy doesn't it have all of the rep's uncommented to begin with?03:40
kraxok apt-get update is done03:40
muszekI just ran apt-get dist-upgrade (1 hour left)... should I expect some kind of a small disaster?03:40
kraxnow sudo apt-get install network-manager?03:40
warpforgekrax: universe is only semi-supported03:40
eXcentradooglus, rar03:40
doogluseXcentra: you can probably tell it to extract all the files - then you won't have to type the names...03:41
EPSONLX300w803:41
brennerrubem: default is 2.6.10 (do a uname -a to check)...it's probably a minor update03:41
doogluseXcentra: rar x <archive>03:41
mustard5sounds pretty normal rubem03:41
warpforgekrax: now, "sudo apt-get upgrade"03:41
warpforgeit'll bring everything in line03:41
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wastreli'm having a situation wrt my printer, insofar as i can't print from kghostview03:41
EPSONLX300i am trying to print03:41
foXgamerEPSONLX300: I hope it works03:41
warpforgekrax: finally, "sudo apt-get install network-manager"03:41
eXcentradooglus, worked like a charm. Thanks a bunch! :D03:42
kraxit has about 100 megs of stuff to download first03:42
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warpforgeyeah03:42
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EPSONLX300after this will work i need to share to this in network thats my next questions03:42
doogluseXcentra: glad I could help :)03:42
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kraxis this stuff pretty much sequential?  as in i need to finish doing all of this before i can install the network manager right?03:42
foXgamerEPSONLX300: That I can't help you with. I know nothing about networks :(03:42
warpforgekrax: it's sequential03:43
doogluseXcentra: see also the nonfree-rar - I forget the exact package name - but it can open more .rar files than the free one03:43
sydw_Hobbsee, that worked great, thank you! I did have to re-install mozilla-mplayer yelp and ubuntu-desktop03:43
chris_619Hello everyone03:43
warpforgekrax: you can't have two things using the package manager at once03:43
EPSONLX300:(03:43
chris_619I'm a linux noob03:43
foXgamerhey chris_61903:43
kraxso the fact that isntalling network-manager earlier did not work is probably because i had not done this yet?03:43
chris_619Hey foxgamer03:43
mustard5chris_619, ask any questions you like03:43
foXgamerEPSONLX300: There are plenty of people here that know about networks. Someone should be able to help :)03:43
chris_619Awesome!03:43
warpforgeit's because you didn't have the repository enabled that has network-manager in it03:43
Hobbseesydw_: awesome! :)03:44
sydw_the lovely "Update alert" applet has vanished from my top panel. How can I put it back?03:44
kraxwhich was the universal ones?03:44
brennerchris_619: ubuntu-related would be good of course :)03:44
warpforgeyes03:44
chris_619OK, number one, how do I get realplayer to work?03:44
EPSONLX300okey i will try to print if your links work03:44
Hobbseesydw_: you probably have nothing more to update.  it will come back when it has packages for you to update03:44
mustard5!tell chris_619 about realplayer03:44
sydw_Hobbsee, ok, i get it!03:44
Hobbseesydw_: it's this whole idea of "dont stick rubbish on the desktop if it's not needed or being used" which is awesome!03:45
kraxwhich rep can i get xmss from?  or just apt-get install xmss?03:45
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sydw_Hobbsee, thanks, I appreciate that!03:45
chris_619It doesn't necessarily have to be realplayer, anything that will play movies and music will do03:45
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keffyndany chance that Ubuntu will or can include Ham Radio software in the repositories like SuSe Linux does?03:45
Hobbseesydw_: no problems03:45
warpforgekrax: It's xmms, for starters. I recommend beep-media-player over xmms.03:45
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mustard5chris_619, use totem03:45
EPSONLX300well done foXgamer03:45
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EPSONLX300thank you very much03:46
AES_24_96ok my other pc will also boot off the nero disk no problem but not the ubuntu disk03:46
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AES_24_96do I need fpu compatiable thing on in bios or something?03:46
foXgamerEPSONLX300: It worked? oh cool! Glad it did :)03:46
warpforgekrax: "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player" will install beep03:46
kraxdo i need to install various codecs, etc before it can play all the formats?03:46
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mustard5chris_619, totem-xine will play movies03:46
warpforge(and xmms)03:46
EPSONLX300next questions how can i share this to other networks?03:46
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AES_24_96is there a way besides cd to install ubuntu?03:46
MEtaLpREsdoes anyone know if the kubuntu breezy release will also be on the 13th? or is it being delayed?03:47
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TylerDurdenseethru, r u here?03:47
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kraxthe upgrades are almost done, brb03:47
warpforgek03:47
OrbordeIs there an Ubuntu BitTorrent tracker list thingy somewhere where I can view the torrent's status?03:47
Kris_k[1] im trying to install dsl on my laptop but my menu.lst is blank :( and when i try to boot from the HD i get grub loading.... and thats it03:48
bimberiAES_24_96: yes there is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation03:48
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Shermanhehe 1.5 days03:48
AES_24_96cool03:48
TylerDurdencan someone help me with point2play and css?03:48
chris_619mustard_5, is there any particular way I have to configure Totem? It doesn't seem to recognize mpegs03:48
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keffyndwill breezy be an update option? I have just installed the current ubuntu03:48
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Hobbseekeffynd: it's called dist-upgrade03:49
cafuego_keffynd: Yes.03:49
Hobbsee!tell keffynd about breezy03:49
transparentdreamI have the quake2 and quake2-data pkgs installd, where can I find the actual game files?03:49
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bimberitransparentdream: dpkg -L quake2 (or whatever the packages were called)03:50
wastrelok.03:50
wastrelhello03:50
wastreli <3 u03:50
foXgamerright. I'm off to ked. nn all03:50
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transparentdreambimberi, for both pkgs?03:50
xxtremesector10_ u there03:50
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TylerDurdenhow can i access root's trash without logging into root?03:50
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bimberitransparentdream: one at a time - it will list what files were installed03:51
rubemhey:03:51
warpforgewhy does root have trash?03:51
rmjreboot and log in using rescue mode03:51
rubemqemu or vmware?03:51
Crys_Ubu_PCHey all. I'm having a problem. Simple one. My resolution won't go above 640x48003:51
transparentdreamok, now what?03:51
HrdwrBob!resolution03:51
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:51
Xyc0Hey guys, is it worth upgrading to Breezy yet?03:51
naliothubotu: tell Crys_Ubu_PC about fixres03:51
naliothXyc0: yes. go for it03:51
Crys_Ubu_PCThank you nalioth I can always count on you.03:51
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brennertransparentdream: you need a copy of the game. :)03:52
Xyc0nalioth Is the RC stable as Hoary?03:52
brennerthey're on the cd iirc03:52
transparentdreambrenner: GAH! is there somthing free i can put instead?03:52
sydw_backwards typing in evolution composer -- its crazy -- has anyone experienced that?03:52
bimberitransparentdream: you asked where the files were...03:52
naliothXyc0: it runs purty good on my two machines03:52
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transparentdreambimberi: sorry for not being clear i guess03:53
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?03:53
xxtremenalioth_ i need help with irssi03:53
nalioth108mb03:53
Xyc0nalioth: Thanks a ton, Im a little skeptic cause I messed with it a few months ago and had to reinstall Hoary03:53
bimberitransparentdream: np :)03:53
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ishtvan22transparentdream: cube is good game that is free and is like Quake03:53
naliothxxtreme: ask the channel03:53
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?03:53
transparentdreamishtvan22: how do i get it?03:53
zucchi3I don't understand how to download and run programs - for instance, I just downloaded the new beta version of Firefox for Linux. Now, how do I install it or open it?? - PLEASE HELP!!!03:53
sydw_damn keyboard layout never changes, keyboard never changes, but letters come out sdrawkcab <-- like that03:53
wulfy814anyone familiar with SATA hotswap ?03:53
wulfy814I have a drive rack that supposedly supports it03:53
wulfy814if i unmount the HD03:54
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wulfy814and pull it, will I hurt anything?03:54
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?03:54
Hobbseezucchi3: with synaptic03:54
naliothwolverian: unmount any drives you are gonna hotswap03:54
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Avenhello03:54
wastrelok my printer is working - no thanks to you lot03:54
naliothwulfy814: unmount any drives you are gonna hot swap03:54
AvenI'm using ubuntu as a webserver and..03:54
ishtvan22transparentdream: http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/03:54
Hobbseezucchi3: ie, download it from there, and it will install03:54
AvenI have Perl installed but how do I load it in my apache conf?03:54
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?03:54
zucchi3how with synaptic??????????03:54
zucchi3I'll try??03:55
wulfy814nalioth: I gathered as much, but do you know if there are any known issues?03:55
Hobbseeopen it, point and mark the ones to install03:55
naliothubotu: tell zucchi3 about synaptic03:55
Hobbseego have a look03:55
transparentdreamishtvan22: thx03:55
naliothwulfy814: nope. just unmount03:55
transparentdreamoh wait03:55
phiqtionwhere can i know where the amsn package downloaded itself to from easy ubuntu?03:55
naliothphiqtion: easy ubuntu website should provide help for you03:55
transparentdreamishtvan22: How do i install? ./configure make make install or wut?03:56
naliothphiqtion: we've seen too many boxes screwed up from easyubuntu03:56
zucchi3I can't find it on synaptic - I think because it's a beta version. I have the file already.  I got it from their site. Now how do I use it?03:56
ishtvan22transparentdream: i think it is already compiled03:56
phiqtionnalioth, u dont recommend easy ubuntu?03:56
wulfy814next silly question....03:56
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ishtvan22transparentdream: unpack it and run the script03:56
xxtremeanyone know how why systems is crashing after I made transparency in irssi? I configured my xorg conf files and enabled transparency, it was real slow so I changed it back to default, now kdialog send me a message when i reboot, saying the system crashes? any ideas?03:56
transparentdreamishtvan22: ok, i'll try it03:56
wulfy814I have some software that I compile from source (Asterisk)03:56
wulfy814I don't want it to break when I do "apt-get upgrade"03:57
wulfy814can I pin the kernel03:57
wulfy814so it will only upgrade the rest of the system?03:57
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warpforgewulfy: you can, but i have no idea what it will do03:57
naliothwulfy814: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto03:57
transparentdreamishtvan22: Where should i unpakc it to , anywhere?03:57
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ishtvan22transparentdream: i just unpacked to my home folder03:58
Crys_Ubu_PCnalioth, You rock. ubotu, You rock more.03:58
ishtvan22transparentdream: doesnt really matter03:58
kraxis kubutu effectively just a kde based ubutu?03:58
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?03:59
Hobbseekrax: yes, with no gnome03:59
kraxk03:59
warpforgekrax: yes03:59
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transparentdreamishtvan22: It Worked! but one problem: it runs at 10 fps...I;ve got an ATI radeon 9800 pro, it should run fine!03:59
kraxso i can do everything that synaptic can do from the command line?03:59
wulfy814thank you nalioth and warpforge03:59
Hobbseekrax: yep03:59
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wulfy814does the kernel get upgraded often?03:59
warpforgekrax: largely03:59
warpforgekrax: synaptec just makes it easier03:59
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warpforgekrax: synaptex has a few search features what aren't built into apt04:00
bimberiHobbsee: use the mouse :)04:00
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wastrel<3 apt04:00
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Hobbseebimberi: hehehehe...that's true04:00
phiqtionwhats the correct name for sypantic? apt get says it doesnt find it04:00
ishtvan22transparentdream: you need graphic acceleration04:00
Hobbseebimberi: who needs mice...or touchpads...for installing software04:00
Shermangrr, someone has already registered my nick04:00
wastrelsynaptic > dselect04:00
Hobbseephiqtion: synaptic04:01
macgeekSherman: is it registered? you can recover it04:01
macgeekdarn too late04:01
naliothwulfy814: this is YOUR box, you can pin what you like and do anything you like. keep in mind if you do anthing wild, we might not be able to help you04:01
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transparentdreamishtvan22: And what am i missing that i dont have it already>04:01
ishtvan22transparentdream: there is not very good support for ATI stuff04:01
transparentdreamishtvan22: bah       should i just try to run my regular onboard card then?04:01
bimberiHobbsee: too true! :)04:01
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kevogodWell, the drivers DO work04:01
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?04:01
mosheis anyone here having a problem with backports?04:01
ishtvan22transparentdream: look in the howto in the ubuntu forums for ATI graphic acceleration04:01
wulfy814nalioth: I appreciate your help, I am looking to build a relatively stable box for asterisk, but I don't want to have to worry about security updates04:01
transparentdreammoshe: I am04:01
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Avenhmm04:02
wulfy814so I was thinking of doing apt-get upgrade in the cron04:02
warpforgekrax: so, how are you using freenet and the repositories if your DNS is down?04:02
transparentdreamishtvan22: ok...thanks04:02
Avenhow do you make files in ACSII mode?04:02
brennertransparentdream: try installing the driver04:02
moshetransparentdream, any ideas why?04:02
wulfy814but was worried it would automatically update the kernel and break asterisk04:02
transparentdreammoshe: no clue04:02
wulfy814by so doing04:02
kevogodI am having a problem with Rhythmbox for no apparent reason, keeping getting a Segmentation Fault04:02
naliothwulfy814: dont let it see the net04:02
brennerubotu: tell transparentdream about ati04:02
warpforgewulfy: do not do that04:02
transparentdreambrenner: how04:02
moshehmmm04:02
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kraxim assuming because both of them determine the ip prior to use and run off of that04:02
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?04:02
XenguyAven: find and use a text editor ?04:02
kraxi can go to yahoo if i type in the ip address i get from pinging the dns name04:02
propagandhirubem: theres better IDE's than tulip04:02
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kraxno pictures pop up or anything like that04:02
wulfy814warpforge: and nalioth: I think I see a downside to the wonder of apt-get then, I must know what I'm doing to use it04:03
AvenXenguy: I mean like...04:03
wulfy814unless I'm going to run a "stock" "standard" system04:03
chjchjchjGreets...am in the right place to ask a q about installing ubuntu?04:03
AvenI already have the files and it says to make put them in ACSII mode04:03
wulfy814with everything installed from the approved repositories04:03
wulfy814otherwise I run the risk of breaking things04:03
Trashcanyes chjchjchj04:03
Xenguychjchjchj: yep04:03
warpforgewulfy: you just don't want to have auto installs of every upgrade04:03
phiqtionhow can get synaptic working on ubuntu?04:03
Trashcanit shoudl be working automagically04:03
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Trashcanwhats the problem?04:03
ishtvan22transparentdream: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276 i think that is what you need04:03
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Shermanlol my boss keeps walking into the store :P04:04
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phiqtiontrashcan, here in gnome it doesnt appear in the menu04:04
Shermanand my nick is registered already :(04:04
zblachhi04:04
transparentdreamishtvan22: kk04:04
chjchjchjta...old-ish laptop with no floppy, no cd...no other pc handy...currently has a windoze 98 partition, so I can get to dos etc...is there a way to use partition magic create a little boot partition and install from the hdd?04:04
wastreli hate printing problems on linux04:04
warpforgewulfy: look at the "cron-apt" package04:04
zblacha few quick questions.04:04
rubempropagandhi like what?04:04
bimberiphiqtion: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager ?04:05
zblach1) How to set default applications for extensions? i.e. .mp3 w/ xmms04:05
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Kris_k[1] im trying to install dsl on my laptop but my menu.lst is blank :( and when i try to boot from the HD i get grub loading.... and thats it04:05
bimberiubotu tell zblach about defaultapp04:05
warpforgezblach: right click on a file and go to properties04:05
Xenguy!install04:05
ubotuinstall is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation04:05
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warpforgezblach: there's a tab for the default program04:06
rubempropagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?04:06
zblachwarpforge, thanks. that was totally painless04:06
zblach2) setting up an FTP server04:06
Xenguyzblach: vsftpd is worth a look I hear04:06
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brennerchjchjchj: Xenguy's link was for you04:06
bimberizblach: vsftpd seems to be regularly recommended04:06
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rubempropagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?04:07
Trashcanzblach: vsft... damn you guys typing fast04:07
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warpforgezblach: "sudo apt-get install vsftpd"04:07
chjchjchjnobody ever used the dosutil/autoboot stuff on other dirtros? anyone know howto for ubuntu?04:07
kraxbrenner-working like a charm04:07
transparentdreamHow do I see what kernel I'm currently running04:07
kraxboth beep and the dns problem i was having earlier04:07
kevogodI think Blackjack is rigged.04:07
rubempropagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?04:07
kraxbeep media player gives me an error that says i need to enable plugins but then it goes and plays the song04:08
kraxso i just checked the shits that said not to warn me again04:08
Xenguy!tell chjchjchj about install04:08
andrewfkbest ide is vim04:08
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bimberitransparentdream: "uname -r" in a terminal04:08
Trashcanagreed04:08
TylerDurdenhow come i cant eject the cd when the ut2k4 install asks me to insert cd 2?04:08
warpforgekrax: do you have all the gstreamer packages installed?04:08
kraxno04:08
brennerkrax: good to hear....although i didn't help you with either of them. :)04:08
bimberikevogod: just like in a casino :)04:08
kraxerr im a retard04:08
kraxlol04:08
kraxits late04:08
zblachwarpforge, cool. is it easy to set up?04:08
brennerwarpforge, krax no need.....bmp has it's own codecs iirc04:08
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warpforgetyler: you have unmount the disk04:08
kraxwarpforge,  :)04:08
wastrelpls 2 help me with my linux printing04:08
wastrelprinting04:08
TylerDurdenwarforge how do i do that?04:08
rubempropagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?04:09
Trashcanwastrel set up us the bomb04:09
ishtvan22TylerDurden: when i installed ut2k4 i copied the install script04:09
warpforgetyler: right-click on the disk on your desktop or anywhere else04:09
warpforgetyler: click "Unmount"04:09
warpforgeit will eject04:09
zblachtake off every wastrel04:09
wastrelfor great justice04:09
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TylerDurdenwarforge.. thats what i mean when i say it wont let me eject04:09
warpforgeah04:09
TylerDurdenit says its busy, but ut2k4 asks me to insert ccd 204:09
wastrelthat's a pretty good secret password04:09
kevogodTylerDurden, You have to unmount from the terminal and force it04:10
TylerDurdeneject?04:10
TylerDurdeni mean is that the comand?04:10
warpforgetyler: kevo's suggestion probably requires sudo04:10
benkong2hey folks what would cause me not to be able to ssh into my *nix* box from my lan? No firewall I think. Fresh breezy install04:10
XenguyTylerDurden: yeh04:10
kraxwhats the package name for all the codecs necessary to play divx avi and wmv files?04:10
starscallinghelp >_<04:10
Trashcanhmm04:10
TylerDurdenumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy04:10
TylerDurdenumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy04:10
TylerDurdeneject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed04:10
wastreli send you this message in order to have your advice04:10
warpforgebenkong: breezy indeed has no firewall04:10
Xenguykrax: w32codecs04:10
Shermanbah, someone else has already registered my nickname with a password I dont know, so that freenode howto doesnt work :P04:10
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starscallingi cant seem to get a successful build on install XML::parser04:10
Trashcansudo umount -f /media/cdrom004:10
kevogodsudo umount -f /media/cdrom004:11
warpforgebenkong: have you installed the SSH server?04:11
starscallingi get all kinds of errors :/04:11
Trashcanwinnneerr04:11
kevogod..04:11
TylerDurdenumount2: Device or resource busy04:11
TylerDurdenumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy04:11
TylerDurdenumount2: Device or resource busy04:11
TylerDurdenumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy04:11
Trashcan...touche04:11
benkong2warpforge; good question let me check04:11
Trashcanyou sudo -f?04:11
TylerDurdenyeah i copy pasted04:11
Trashcansudo *and* -f04:11
kevogodTry -l04:11
Trashcanoh, weird04:11
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TylerDurden-l doesnt do anything04:12
kevogoderr not that04:12
warpforgekrax: is your stuff working now?04:12
benkong2warpforge; that was the problem thanks :-)))04:12
Trashcan-l = lazy unmount :\04:12
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kraxyep.. what program do you use to view videos?04:12
wastreltyler durden is some b list celebrity right?04:12
kevogodsudo umount -l /media/cdrom004:12
TylerDurdenthats whta i meant lol04:12
Trashcantyler durden is brad pitt in fight club04:12
Trashcanthe alternate personality04:12
TylerDurdenit doesnt do anything04:12
warpforgekrax: I use Mplayer mostly, sometimes totem04:12
wastrelah04:12
wastrelnever saw that04:12
jsubl2krax, mplayer sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer04:12
seethruanyone here using wireless AND a custom kernel?04:12
TylerDurdenumount2: Invalid argument04:13
TylerDurdenumount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted04:13
TylerDurdenthats what it says now afte rthe -l command but i still cant eject04:13
Trashcanaha04:13
kraxok and the codecs for that program to view divx avi and wmv?04:13
Trashcanit worked04:13
Trashcannow you should be able to ejec04:13
Trashcant04:13
Trashcan?04:13
kevogodlol04:13
jsubl2krax, hoary or breezy04:13
seethruTylerDurden: sudo eject /media/cdrom004:13
warpforgekrax is on breezy04:13
kraxbreezy04:13
TylerDurdenthere we go. thanks seethru04:14
kevogodUT2004 always has mounting problems.04:14
TylerDurdenbtw seethru i was waiting for u04:14
jsubl2krax, i get them from mplayer web site04:14
TylerDurdenlike i thought, those changes in profiles wont change anyhting04:14
kevogodIt has to do with the installer script being outdated on the CD/DVD04:14
TylerDurdeni enabled antiosptic (sp) filtering and i get the same framerate04:14
Trashcanis there any technical difference between /dev/cdrom, /media/cdrom, and /media/cdrom0?04:14
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TylerDurdenkevogod, u mean my dvd is bad or just their script?04:14
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Trashcanthey all point to the same device on my box04:14
kevogodTylerDurden, Their script04:14
seethruanyone? custom kernel with wireless? I've got a small question regarding the prism drivers04:15
warpforgekrax: you can get the codecs via apt-get04:15
kraxwhat's their name?04:15
kevogodTrashcan, /dev/cdrom and /media/cdrom are symbolic links04:15
Trashcan...good call04:15
wastrelthe nick you own ends up owning you04:16
warpforgesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg w32codecs libdivx4linux lame sox ffmpeg mjpegtools vorbis-tools04:16
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kevogodTrashcan, and that would be the technical difference04:16
warpforgekrax: then run "gst-register-0.8"04:16
Trashcan:) why thank you sir04:16
TylerDurdenkevogod, grr now i cant mount anything04:16
TylerDurdenit wont read the cd04:16
TylerDurdensudo mount /media/cdrom004:16
TylerDurdenmount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only04:16
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kraxi need to get mplayer first?04:16
warpforgeyou should04:16
kevogodTylerDurden, Read-only is correct04:16
kevogodTylerDurden, Because well, CDs are read-only04:17
Trashcan/dev/hdc?04:17
warpforgeorder shouldn't matter, though04:17
TylerDurdenkevogod, but it wont mount my other cd now04:17
jsubl2!find win32codecs04:17
TylerDurdenTylerDurden, it still says cd 104:17
TylerDurdeninstead of cd 204:17
warpforgekrax: aptitude takes care of any dependency issues04:17
Trashcan!tell jsubl2 about w32codecs04:17
TylerDurdenand it wont continue in install04:17
jsubl2!find w32codecs04:17
Trashcanwhat ar eyou trying to do jsub?04:17
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rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?04:18
Xenguyubotu: are you here?04:18
ubotuXenguy: I don't know04:18
Trashcan!tell jsubl2 about restricted formats04:18
kraxok so apt get that stuff from above and the rest is taken care of?04:18
Trashcanfollow that guide04:18
Joxercan anyone help me with a gcc problem i have ? It says C compiler cannot create executables04:18
chjchjchjuboto / Xenguy thanks for the url (which I finally spotted was for me); am trawling thru the docs now04:18
rubemnobody knows?04:18
warpforge!tell krax about restricted formats04:18
rubemseveas, naliorh???04:18
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Xenguychjchjchj: yw, good luck04:18
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rubemseveas, nalioth???04:18
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ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'win32codecs' returned no results.04:19
rubemI tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?04:19
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Jenny_vhey guys04:19
ColonelKerneldamn I wish there was an esier way to handle gentoo's config files04:19
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'w32codecs' returned no results.04:19
kraxit didn't find one of those files you referred to in your apt-get04:19
warpforgewhich one?04:19
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Lord_Maynothman I cannot wait04:20
kevogodTylerDurden, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom004:20
Jenny_vlol ok so i just got ubuntu on this machine after i literally killed my windows and i want to know how to get Java from the bin file to installed04:20
Lord_MaynothI wish breezy was out04:20
quendicool..got my own theme setup..just wondering, how do i change the splash screen? i have a login theme installed, but would like to have a noia splashscreen04:20
Lord_MaynothLOL04:20
warpforgekrax: the list is for hoary, so i wouldn't be surprised if one were missing04:20
naliothubotu: tell Jenny_v about java04:20
TylerDurdenkevogod, i got it already04:20
Joxercan anyone please help me with a gcc problem i have ? It says C compiler cannot create executables04:20
Jenny_vdamn youre fast04:20
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warpforgejoxer: do you have build-essential?04:20
rubemwhere can I find emacs?04:20
kraxok cool04:20
Lord_Maynothdoes anyone know if breezy will automount windows fat and ntfs drives04:21
kevogodTylerDurden, Sorry if I respond slow, kind of working on multiple stuff04:21
Lord_Maynothby default04:21
Lord_Maynoth?04:21
Joxerwarpforge, build-essential ?04:21
rubememacs is not at the repos!!!04:21
TylerDurdennp thnx anyway, learned some new commands04:21
logical_markLord_Matboth - It can but does not by default04:21
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warpforgejoxer: it's what libraries you minimally need to build applications04:21
bimberirubem: emacs2104:21
warpforgejoxer: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"04:21
Joxerwarpforge, i kinda just got it with synaptic04:21
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logical_markLord_Mayboth - It can but does not by default - you will have to tell it to do that, and I do not know how to tell you04:21
warpforgeokay04:21
Jenny_vok once i have it downloaded dont i have to type something in the terminal window04:21
rubembimberi: thanks04:22
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warpforgejoxer: working now?04:22
Lord_Maynothwhen do you guys think ubuntu will automount windows partitions maybe by dapper drake04:22
Lord_Maynoth?04:22
Lord_Maynothxandros does it automatically04:22
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Joxerwarpforge, 2sec04:22
bimberirubem: yw :)04:22
KyralIts does..you just have to enable it ;P04:22
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rubembimberi: how do I install sintax headligth?04:23
Lord_Maynothyeah but shouldn't it just work (tm)04:23
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Joxerwarpforge, yeah, thanks man :)04:23
Hobbsee!tell Lord_Maynoth about faq04:23
JBlazex43OK. im a huge noob to ubuntu i installed on my powerbook and need to reformat and install OSx . Can anyone tell me how to boot a cd.04:23
Crys_Ubu_PCnalioth, That totally worked. Thanks.04:23
Hobbseeit seems like breezy does recognise some, but there's the manual guide to do it04:23
bimberirubem: sorry i don't know - others might though04:23
KyralI donno. I find no use for the thing. Actually doesn't the installer give you the option to do that?04:24
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HobbseeJBlazex43: make sure your bios is set to boot from cd first04:24
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warpforgeHobbsee: JBlazex is on Mac04:24
warpforgeMac doesn't have a normal "BIOS"04:24
wastrelmac eh04:24
naliothCrys_Ubu_PC: np04:24
Hobbseewarpforge: my error, i thought all computers did04:24
JBlazex43Yes. its weird. i was messing around with ubuntu and now i need to know how to remove.04:24
wastrelyou have the rom dealy04:24
wastrelbios is for pc compatible04:25
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Karasuhi all04:25
Hobbseeah...right...04:25
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warpforgeJBlazex, Macs should try to boot from CD by default04:25
bytefoois there a firewall on by default?04:25
KarasuI just installed Nvidia driver04:25
viper``help04:25
warpforgebytefoo: no04:25
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viper``i cant install the ubuntu04:26
bytefooblast...04:26
Karasuand the resolution is only 1024/76804:26
filloy?04:26
warpforge!tell viper`` about installation04:26
viper``i cant find the setup exe04:26
Karasusupose to be 1050/120004:26
warpforge!tell viper`` about instal04:26
JBlazex43hold on im gonna check the apple support page first. BRB AFK04:26
bytefoo:/04:26
warpforge!tell viper`` about install04:26
Karasuanyone here can help?04:26
warpforgeKarasu, I assume you mean 1050x1400?04:27
thechitowncubsWho likes ubuntu here?04:27
Karasuyes sory04:27
Jenny_vi think ubuntu is ok04:27
propagandhiKarasU: not a single person04:27
caikelol04:27
Jenny_vcant seem to figure it out04:27
Jenny_vlol04:27
caikepropagandhi, that band rocks04:27
stperethechitowncubs, me04:27
propagandhicaike: indeed they do04:27
warpforgeI'd say I like Ubuntu, considering that it's the only OS I use.04:28
filloythechitowncubs i preffere kubuntu :p but the system is nice04:28
Jenny_vlol warpforge are you good at it04:28
caikewarpforge, for how long have you been using it ?04:28
kevogodthechitowncubs, That is probably04:28
propagandhiI meant thechitownclubs before too04:28
Lord_Maynothman... I cannot wait to see what ubuntu will be like in 5 year04:28
Lord_Maynoth5 years04:28
propagandhinot Karasu04:28
tristan622phwhat IDE for C++ do you prefer? in linux/Ubuntu04:28
kevogodthechitowncubs, hmm.. bad question04:28
warpforgeI've been with Ubuntu for a few months.04:28
thechitowncubsha04:28
ColonelKernelIm going to be migrating to gentoo but ill still use ubuntu on another box, and IM probably going to migrate my stepmom's workplace over to ubuntu04:28
Lord_MaynothI hope the funding doesn't run out by then04:28
thechitowncubsany of you people involved with the ubuntu project?04:28
Karasuis gnome using xorg.conf?04:29
warpforgeColonel: One does not simply "migrate" to Gentoo. It's a life decision.04:29
Karasuif so all my mode are Modes"1400x1050"04:29
kevogodLord_Maynoth, In 5 years, you will have a circle of friends.04:29
ajmitch_thechitowncubs: what do you mean by 'involved'?04:29
Lord_MaynothLOL04:29
warpforgeKarasu: yes, xorg.conf04:29
caikewarpforge, I've been with it for a couple of weeks and I've been having few issues...04:29
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Lord_Maynothi doubt it04:29
thechitowncubsajmitch_, like do something for ubuntu?04:29
ajmitch_thechitowncubs: yes04:29
thechitowncubsajmitch_, what have you done04:29
Trashcanhi ajmitch_ :)04:29
wastrelhello i have a printing problem04:29
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Jenny_vok people i have the jave thing downloaded how do i install?04:30
ajmitch_thechitowncubs: I've helped fix a couple of packages :)04:30
caikewarpforge,  I don't know if maybe it's my hard-drive, but after a few days my Ubuntu is getting soooo slow04:30
thechitowncubsajmitch_, cool cool04:30
warpforge!tell ajmitch_ about java04:30
wastrelwhen i print something, it prints out but then cups doesn't clear the job from the queue04:30
Joxerwhat's the path to "libtcl.so" in ubuntu? i cant seem to find it.04:30
wastrelit just sits there clogging up the queue04:30
ajmitch_warpforge: erm, that wasn't necessary thanks04:30
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Jenny_vlol04:30
thechitowncubsanyone want to help market/share ubuntu?04:30
gnutshello04:30
tristan622phin 3days of using ubuntu, i have learned a lot from this OS.04:30
warpforge!tell Jenny_v about java04:30
Jenny_vim the one that wanted to know about java04:30
ajmitch_thechitowncubs: in other words, I'm a MOTU04:30
Jenny_vand btw04:30
warpforgeajmitch: sorry, wrong person for "java" help04:30
tristan622phi found out that linux is better than windows04:31
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Jenny_vive already gotten that message04:31
Jenny_vi want to install it now04:31
Jenny_vnot download it04:31
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Jenny_vim past that step04:31
warpforgeokay04:31
Lord_Maynothso will the official openoffice2 replace the beta when it comes out in breezy?04:31
warpforgeone sec04:31
_jasonJenny_v:  that page tells you everything04:31
Jenny_vok04:31
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BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, unlikely04:31
caikeI could use some help adding other resolutions to my gnome.. I have 1024x768 , but I want a higher one... anyone ?04:31
Jenny_vwhat page04:31
Jenny_vthe page i clicked on04:31
thechitowncubshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam04:31
Lord_Maynothreally04:31
Jenny_vgave me a directory of files to download04:31
warpforgeJenny: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb04:31
kevogodLord_Maynoth, Well, perhaps late in Breezy's reign04:31
bytefooi would think they would put the upgrade up04:32
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, we are frozen, new versions don't happen after release04:32
Lord_Maynothwow...04:32
filloycolonel: i use gentoo, great distro, but i have ubuntu in my lap cuz i need eficiency and less time to install apps....:p gentoo is all about learning the underware of linux :S04:32
Lord_Maynothoh well04:32
Joxeranyone know how to get tcl up and working porpperly ? :/04:32
Lord_Maynothmaybe i can use autopackage to install it04:32
warpforgeLord: Backports will contain updated versions.04:32
bytefoothat can't be right, i thought they supported each version for 18 months04:32
Rev-MarcI am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again04:32
kevogodThat is actually not true. Firefox was updated to a higher version number.04:32
kevogodIn Hoary04:32
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_jasonJenny_v:  oh you downloaded the .deb, nvr mnd04:32
Jenny_vlol04:32
warpforgebytefoo: only for security updates04:32
gnutsi've been using the 'add programs' (nice feature) installed frozen bubble but get no sound (other sounds work) and can't get Mplayer (says multiverse isnt active when it is. any thoughts?04:32
filloyhow many girls in here ?04:33
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Jenny_vlol04:33
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BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, if we started upgrading in the stable release, what is the point of making a stable release?04:33
warpforge!tell Lord_Maynoth about backports04:33
Jenny_vgeneral@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb04:33
Jenny_vPassword:04:33
Jenny_vdpkg: error processing package_file.deb (--install):04:33
Jenny_v cannot access archive: No such file or directory04:33
Jenny_vErrors were encountered while processing:04:33
Jenny_v package_file.deb04:33
Jenny_vgeneral@ubuntu:~$04:33
Razor-Xhave there been changes to TOC recently?04:33
Hobbseefilloy: me, why?04:33
Jenny_voh god04:33
thechitowncubsJenny_v, BAD GIRL04:33
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bytefooit says security updates and fixes04:33
BurgundaviaJenny_v, please don't spam04:33
naliothJenny_v: pleae friend, dont paste in here04:33
Razor-XJenny_v: please do not paste more than 3 lines in this channel04:33
Jenny_vim not im lost04:33
kevogodIt could be argued that backporting security fixes causes instability.04:33
Hobbsee!pastebin04:33
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:33
fialarhey all I have a quick question.. after an initial ubuntu install, what is the root pw set to?04:33
warpforgeJenny: close Synaptec and your update manager04:33
Burgundaviakevogod, only if upstream is being dumb (The Moz project)04:33
Jenny_vlol fialar04:33
Hobbsee!tell fialar about root04:34
Jenny_vyou have to set that password04:34
fialarJenny_v: it's not for me, it's for a friend of mine04:34
Jenny_vwhen you install the ubuntu on your machine04:34
propagandhino its the same as the password you choose04:34
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HappyHoboHi folks04:34
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filloyhobbsee just wanted to know if there was a girl arround :p         girls using linux are the sexiest ones in the world....:P (and im not hitting on you...or however its said)04:34
kevogodBurgundavia, Well, Firefox was updated to the upstream version in Hoary, so the version freeze doesn't always apply.04:34
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Rev-MarcI am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again04:34
Burgundaviakevogod, that is due to the Mozilla project being bad upstreams and not seperating out security patches04:34
Hobbseefilloy: oh good!  yes, there would be the odd few girls in hiding.  i can tell you it feels really weird being called a gentleman :P04:35
naliothHobbsee: is did correct myself04:35
kevogodBurgundavia, I was actually quite surprised to see an upstream build.04:35
warpforgeBurgundavia: the 1.0.x updates are almost completely security and stability04:35
Lord_Maynothwell I hope they update to the new openoffice2 official release04:35
naliothHobbsee: i did i did04:35
Burgundaviakevogod, notice that of all the security patches, they are the only that is forced to be upgraded to a new version04:35
propagandhivirual women, the best kind hey04:35
Burgundaviawarpforge, yes, but they break all kinds of things04:35
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propagandhi*virtual04:35
fialarahh I see.. root logins disabled, but sudo works04:35
fialarok thanks :)04:35
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Lord_Maynoththats why we need autopackage04:35
filloyHobbsee yep, sometimes they ask me if im a girl, cuz mi nick :P you seem nice :)04:35
Hobbseenalioth: i know you did, i was meaning it as an example - you're not the only one to call me a gentleman04:35
Lord_Maynoth:P04:35
Burgundaviawarpforge, we don't want a new version, we want a patch that fixes the specific security hole04:36
Lord_Maynothnot being able to connect using the old version of gaim was so annoying04:36
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, no, actually04:36
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BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, not being able to connect is a bug, so file one04:36
gnutsanyone have time for a question?04:36
Lord_Maynothburg04:36
Jenny_vok ppl04:36
kevogodgnuts, We all have time.04:36
Lord_Maynothit was not a bug04:36
Jenny_vi typed this04:36
Jenny_vsudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb04:36
Lord_Maynothit was because the version was outdated04:36
gnutsOk, here goes04:36
gnutsi've been using the 'add programs' (nice feature) installed frozen bubble but get no sound (other sounds work) and can't get Mplayer (says multiverse isnt active when it is. any thoughts?04:36
Jenny_vand got the same error message04:36
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, if the program doesn't work, it is a bug04:36
Lord_Maynothtrilian and game become out dated and need patching as yahoo and msn aim etc change their code04:37
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BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, if someone had filed it, we would have been able to pull the specific pathc for the specific fix and then apply that04:37
Lord_Maynothwasn't a bug04:37
Lord_Maynothlol04:37
kevogodLord_Maynoth, Nice way to butcher the names of the two programs.04:37
JBlazex43ok i got it to "try" to boot but it freezes.04:37
naliothJenny_v: what error was that?04:37
Rev-MarcI am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again04:37
filloyahhh hope Breezy gets my bug fixed :S i hated the preview because of that :p04:37
naliothJenny_v: just one line, please04:37
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, how is "the program doesn't do what it is supposed to do" not a bug?04:37
Jenny_verror processing sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb (--install):04:37
Jenny_v cannot access archive: No such file or directory04:37
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nfernoi'm new to linux and don't know how to do anything. how do i install programs? firefox for example04:38
warpforgeJenny, you don't have any other package managers running?04:38
naliothJenny_v: did you get it from a torrent or a direct download?04:38
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Lord_Maynothwell is a virus scan going out of date a bug, what about a program whos code is too old to connect to servers running new code04:38
Jenny_vnope04:38
HrdwrBobnferno: firefox is already installed04:38
Lord_Maynothsame difference04:38
Jenny_vjust terminal04:38
naliothJenny_v: nope what?04:38
propagandhino such file or directory - pretty obvious04:38
Lord_Maynoththe software functioned perfectly04:38
ianuWhen Breezy comes out, will Ubuntu start shipping the CD's?04:38
filloynferno open Synaptic Package Mannager and search firefox :) then choose apply04:38
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, we have hoary-upgrades for that specific reason04:38
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Burgundaviaianu, yes04:38
jsubl2Jenny_v, try using the full path to the deb04:39
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nfernoHrdwrBog: firefox was just an example. im trying to install kismet04:39
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stperegnuts, quick way to get it working :04:39
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rvrochagood nite04:39
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, the program claims it can connect to MSN. If MSN breaks things and the version in Hoary doesn't work, file a bug, because it doesn't do what is promised it could do04:39
stperepress ALT+F2, type killall esd04:39
filloynferno: you will have to learn all about repositories and that sort of stuff, i suggest you reading the begginers book :P04:39
Jenny_vwhat do you mean by full path04:39
stperegnuts, then start frozenbubble04:39
Rev-Marcis there a firefox help channel?04:39
gnutsnferno, is it in your synaptic list?04:39
rvrochaHow can I politely ask a question? ;)04:40
Lord_Maynothwell in the mean time... I will use autopackage to provide me with the latest versions04:40
filloyrvrocha uhmm, ask ?04:40
nfernognuts: no04:40
Lord_Maynothwhich is really cool imho04:40
naliothJenny_v: did you direct download or use a torrent to get the java deb?04:40
jsubl2Jenny_v, sudo dpkg -i /home/jenny/filename.deb04:40
naliothrvrocha: ask it04:40
rvrochaok04:40
Jenny_vi guess it was direct04:40
Jenny_vi clicked on a link on a webpage and downloaded04:40
rvrochaDo u guys install hardware support for nVidia cards?04:40
naliothJenny_v: did you get ALL of the file?04:40
Jenny_vyes04:40
Rev-MarcI am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again04:40
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gnutsnferno, go to the wiki on adding repositories - it's good and helpful04:40
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rvrochaDo you use nVidia installer for doing so?04:41
propagandhiRev-Marc: after you close it are there any firefox processes still running04:41
Burgundaviarvrocha, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2904:41
benkong2will sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop give me kbuntu also?04:41
rvrochathx04:41
Rev-MarcHow do I check?04:41
propagandhiin the terminal - ps -aux04:41
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warpforgebenkong: If you spell Kubuntu correctly, yes04:41
propagandhior ps -aux | grep firefox04:41
filloyRev-Marc ha ! its like the 5th time i read your question.  I dont really know the answer, but i would try to reinstall and see if the problem persist. if it does, come back and ask again, im shure someboy will help04:42
benkong2warpforge; k thanks04:42
viper``i cant install the ubuntu.. what do i do?04:42
rvrochabeautiful04:42
DShepherdviper``: What do you mean?04:42
warpforgeviper: you're being entirely too vague, and i already sent you a link to the Installation guide04:42
Xenguyviper``: be more specific04:42
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gnutsstpere, thanks that worked. do i need to do it each time i turn on the pc?04:42
rvrochaIs 5.10 already stable?04:42
filloyahhh, im off, goodbye ya fellas ! :P04:42
rvrochabye04:43
filloyrvrocha, not untill tomorrow...04:43
nfernothanks everyone for the help04:43
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DShepherdrvrocha: stable enough04:43
rvrochacool04:43
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kevogodIt isn't stable until 2 days I thought...04:43
frank23rvrocha: its stable, although probably not as stable as 5.0404:43
stperegnuts, yeah, I think so... :-(04:43
Rev-MarcI don't see anything related to firefox running04:43
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gnutsstpere, ok, still cool that it works!04:43
figmentHi.04:44
XenguyRev-Marc: ps aux |grep firefox04:44
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XenguyRev-Marc: or pkill firefox (if need be)04:44
JoxerCan anyone please help me? Im trying to configure eggdrop, But it cant find the path to tcl, And i think tcl is installed default in ubuntu, But it says it cant find tcl, And asks me where it is, Anybody know where it is ?04:44
rvrochaWhat about HP Multifuncional Printers? Is it possible to install them? Any Wiki path? :)04:44
bytefoothere is no setup.exe :/04:45
warpforgejoxer: breezy comes with tcl 8.404:45
rvrochalol04:45
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Joxerwarpforge, yeah, But it asks me to give a path to libtcl.so04:45
naliothJoxer: use synaptic04:45
warpforgeJoxer: TCL is under "/usr/lib/tcl8.4"04:46
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benkong2nighty nighty all04:46
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rvrochanite!04:46
figmentUhm, I'm having a problem.  I ran the update manager, two of the updates are for Firefox, but it gave an error when it tried to install them, and now Firefox won't start at all.04:46
bimberirvrocha: well yes there is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters04:46
gigaclonyou using back ports figment?04:47
figmentI don't know.04:47
warpforgeAha! Joxer: you need tcl8.4-dev04:47
regeya_careful...04:47
rvrochathx04:47
regeya_if you don't know, gigaclon, you're not.04:47
Joxerwarpforge, aaaah, thanks ill try :)04:47
warpforgeJoxer: See this: http://s23.org/wiki/Libtcl.so04:47
regeya_btw, I'm using backports, and firefox is a-ok.04:47
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Rev-MarcXenguy something about -remote ping and -a firefox04:48
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rvrochathx again, guys. U rule!04:48
figmentMy sister set everything up, and told me how to run updates.  But she's in Sweden right now.04:48
XenguyRev-Marc: tried the 'pkill' suggestion?04:48
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Rev-MarcXenguy trying now04:48
enajeirakhello, anyone know how to take down firewall in ubuntu04:49
Xeon3Dfigment: can I have her email addy? it's hard to find linux chicks around here where I live .. (joking) :D04:49
XenguyRev-Marc: then try the ps again04:49
Xenguyenajeirak: what firewall?04:49
enajeirakim having a mental breakdown04:49
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JBlazex43ok i fixed it apple has a thing called TARGET DISK MODE04:49
JBlazex43thanks anyhoo04:49
warpforgeenajeirak: no firewall on ubuntu unless you installed one04:49
JBlazex43:)04:49
figmentLol, she's in Sweden with her boyfriend.  ;)04:49
JBlazex43works fine.04:49
Xenguyenajeirak: pull out your hair instead ;-)04:49
enajeirakwell i think it came with an update, and my file sharing says that i have one enbabled?04:50
enajeirakahhaha04:50
viper``warpforge: i use everything.. but it didnt boot at all04:50
warpforgeenajeirak: you need to forward ports04:50
warpforgefrom your router04:50
enajeirakoh my gosh,04:50
andrewfkdoes anybody know the address for the marillat repository04:50
enajeiraki totally forgot i had my router hooked back up04:50
enajeirakim retarted04:50
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viper``when i look at the ubuntu file ...the size is 0 kb04:50
Rev-MarcXengs now it opens again, I closed it and it opened back up thank you04:50
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warpforgeviper: what ubuntu file?04:51
enajeirakthank you, you see i worked 20 hours today and thats what happens04:51
viper``i think the exe file is corrupted04:51
warpforgeviper: linux doesn't use EXEs04:51
Trashcanlol04:51
viper``how can i boot it?04:51
viper``im new in linux04:51
Trashcanwell techincally, EXE stands for executable and linux *does* use executables04:51
Trashcanbut i'll agree with you :)04:51
Trashcanelf vs coff04:51
viper``:)04:52
warpforgeviper, have you set your computer to boot from CD?04:52
viper``yup04:52
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XenguyRev-Marc: yw04:52
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warpforgeviper, does booting to a different CD work?04:52
enajeirakbuh buy, must bypass stupid router, thanks04:52
viper``but the thing is it doesnt start automatically...i mean the installation04:52
warpforgehave you pressed ENTER when it comes up with the first prompt?04:52
viper``should i type anythng??04:53
viper``no prompt04:53
Trashcannol04:53
Trashcanoh?04:53
warpforgeviper, not unless you want to server version04:53
viper``ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i38604:53
warpforgejust press ENTER with the empty line04:53
viper``i jst downloaded it yesterday04:53
Trashcanhow did you burn it04:53
viper``using nero04:53
Trashcandid you drag it onto the cd04:53
viper``data only04:53
Trashcannope04:54
Xeon3Dviper`` did you go to recorder -> burn image option?04:54
Trashcanwhen you put it in04:54
warpforgeviper, if you're so new to linux, i suggest you wait until the full release in a day or two04:54
viper``yup04:54
Trashcanyou choose 'recorder->burn image'04:54
viper``yes04:54
Trashcanhmm04:54
Trashcanweird04:54
viper``when i extracted the .iso04:54
warpforgethat's the issue04:54
viper``the file of ubuntu on the main directory is 0kb04:54
Xeon3Dyou can't extract the .iso04:54
warpforgeyou can't extract the ISO04:54
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warpforgeecho?04:54
warpforge:-)04:54
Trashcanlol04:55
Xeon3Dyou open nero, go to recorder -> burn image04:55
Xeon3Dthen you select the .iso file.04:55
warpforgeextracting the ISO destroys the boot image04:55
Xeon3Dand click burn04:55
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viper``:(04:55
viper``so i guess i have to donwload it again04:55
warpforgesorry, but you have to reburn the CD04:55
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Xeon3Dstooopid weather.. rained like there's no tomorrow for 10sec, now it stopped.04:55
Enlitewhat is the official date of the breezy release04:55
warpforgeviper, why don't you wait until the final release?04:56
naliothEnlite: see /topic04:56
viper``the iso file becomes 0kb also04:56
Enlitetoday or tomorrow04:56
Enliteoh04:56
Rev-MarcWhat kind of download speeds should I expect with Bittorrent on a cable connection?04:56
viper``when will it release?04:56
Enlitewhat time is breezy rel04:56
Enlite:)04:56
warpforgeviper, the next few days04:56
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nalioth13 oct04:56
Trashcanrev: typically around 40-6004:56
Trashcanie. slowwwwwwwwwwwwww04:56
naliothif your anxious, get it now04:56
melfykthursday04:56
kevogodTrashcan, Um, no04:56
kevogodTrashcan, I don't know what torrents you have been smoking04:56
Enliteeh dont want to install the preview04:56
Trashcanlol04:56
Trashcandebian04:57
Trashcan:(04:57
Enlitei want the real deal04:57
warpforgeThe speed of BT is dependant on too many factors to give a global prediction04:57
Rev-MarcOK it just seemed slow compared to FTP04:57
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warpforgeenlite: the latest CD image is RC04:57
kevogodWell, depending on what FTP you get04:57
kevogodheh04:57
Blizz-heya what type of drivers and such should i download for ubuntu? debian based things?04:58
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kevogodAldi is selling iPod Shuffles04:58
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kevogodHow famous04:58
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Lordphyndoes anyone use "corkscrew?"04:58
warpforgeBlizz: you can't just "download drivers"04:59
viper``thaniks guys04:59
viper``ill be back04:59
viper``:)04:59
kevogodLordphyn, Well, I use one the first time I open a wine bottle04:59
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eXcentraI ordered some Ubuntu CD's like two weeks ago. Will they send me Breezy?04:59
BurgundaviaeXcentra, yes04:59
Blizz-please explain then04:59
warpforgeBlizz: you need to find support for your devices in the repositories04:59
eXcentraneat04:59
eXcentrathanks04:59
bytefooi ordered the biggest package :/04:59
bytefooof cds :O05:00
warpforgeBlizz: at worst, you'll need to find the .deb's05:00
Blizz-ok thanks05:00
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warpforgeBlizz: what are you trying to set up?05:00
Lordphynhehe yep, kevogod, but i meant the program :) I think httptunnel has similar functionality. I wanted to set up an https proxy on my home machine05:00
mustard5hmmmm..mondo and mindi not working for me out of the breezy repos05:00
kevogodLordphyn, I know. :-)05:00
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erickguys any fax services available for ubuntu05:00
bytefooapt-cache search fax05:01
bytefoo:|05:01
bytefoohylafax i think is popular05:01
gurubieWhich kernel do I use with breezy? Of the "9" series, only 386 does X. I have a K7 but have not seen a K& kernel work. What to do?05:01
warpforgeerick: "sudo apt-get update" first05:01
figmentWhat should I do to try and fix my Firefox?05:01
mustard5erick, searching synaptic brings up quite a few05:01
greg__anyone here having problems with seveas repos? tried ubuntu-devel meta package. depends on yacc, not available from ubuntu repos05:02
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naliothgreg__: use bison and symlink yacc to it05:03
Rev-Marcis there anyway to get around having to do the sudo time everytime I use apt-get?05:03
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gurubieHow do I reinstall GRUB over the MBR to get rid od MEPIS Grub screen.05:03
frank23what is the difference between blackdown java and sun's java?05:03
naliothRev-Marc: you can disregard security if you wish05:03
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naliothfrank23: blackdown is older05:03
frank23gurubie: sudo grub-install /dev/hda05:03
erickwhat should be i search fax?05:03
mustard5do you know how to use synaptic erick ?05:04
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mustard5type 'fax' in the search and search by name and description05:04
warpforgehow do you use gdb to get a trace?05:04
frank23gurubie: you might lose some grub entries though05:04
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erickI guess yes05:04
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Rev-Marcif you do "sudo su " do you have to use sudo for the rest of that session?05:04
naliothRev-Marc: better to sudo -i05:04
mustard5open synaptic and search via synaptic erick05:05
greg__nalioth, will symlinking to bison resolve dependencies?05:05
XenguyRev-Marc: try -> sudo -s05:05
gurubiefrank23, Done thanks05:05
naliothgreg__: it is strange that an ubuntu pkg depends on something not there05:05
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naliothgreg__: what pkg were you installing again?05:05
Rev-Marcwhich is ti -i or -s?05:05
warpforgewhen you "sudo" into a shell, you just exit that shell to leave the su environment05:05
naliothRev-Marc: either one05:05
Ky0tIkwhat kind of changes are we expecting between now and the 13th??05:05
greg__nalioth, it was a seveas package. ubuntu-devel from another repository05:05
Xenguynalioth: there is no difference?05:06
erickyeah i know how to used that but what should i use for my search key fax05:06
naliothgreg__: ah. that explains it. what was the name of the pkg?05:06
Rev-Marcthanks05:06
naliothXenguy: there is a difference, but i'm not aware of waht it is. i use sudo -i05:06
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gurubiefrank23, menu.lst is instact05:06
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frank23nalioth: blackdown is still based on sun's java right? is it that they let 1.4 be distributed by ubuntu but not 1.5?05:06
Xenguynalioth: nod05:06
greg__nalioth, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ was the site, ubuntu-devel is the package. depends on yacc05:06
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dougskohey guys05:06
naliothfrank23: yes but it's older05:06
gurubieWhat kernel are you guys using with brezzy updated?05:07
mustard5erick, search key is fax05:07
naliothgreg__: i'm not sure what ubuntu-devel is? why not install 'build-essential' ?05:07
frank23gurubie: now it will use the menu.lst from the ubuntu partition instead of the menu.lst from Mepis05:07
erickk mustard thanks05:07
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gurubiefrank23, Yes sir, that's exactly what I wanted.05:07
Ky0tIkgurubie: 2.6.12-905:07
Rev-Marchow do I find my kernel version?05:07
dooglusUNAME -R05:08
Ky0tIkuname -r05:08
naliothRev-Marc: uname -r05:08
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gurubieKy0tIk, WHich processor?05:08
greg__nalioth, will do05:08
dooglus(only without the capslock)05:08
Ky0tIkgurubie 68605:08
naliothgreg__: and symlink 'yacc' to bison05:08
erickguys first time to install the server option of breezy guide me05:08
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kevogodIf I plug in an iPod Shuffle, will Ubuntu automount it?05:08
mustard5erick, ok ..we can only try05:08
Rev-MarcThank you05:08
Ky0tIkerick: the server option is mostly just a base install isnt it?05:09
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dougskokevogod: plug it in and let us know :)05:09
NoUsekevogod it should, it automounts my 15gb ipod05:09
naliothKy0tIk: yes it is05:09
gurubieFor some reason the 2.6.12-9-686 Kernel wouldn't start X but I'm on -386 now. I'd be hapy with 686 but still don't quite understand why K7 is offered if it doesn't work.05:09
Enliteare there breezy backports yet?05:09
erickkotic I dont think bcause its my first time install this05:09
naliothEnlite: not yet. let breezy final, and dapper dev begin05:10
kevogodI don't have an iPod Shuffle, I was going to pick one up from Aldi for $6005:10
warpforgegurubie: it will show any kernel you install05:10
Rev-Marcmaybe I should ask where I can find a list of commands and what they are used for on the net?05:10
naliothkevogod: go ahead, they work in ubuntu05:10
khermansBreezy official on 10/13 ??05:10
naliothubotu: tell Rev-Marc about cli05:10
mustard5erick, default will be easier05:10
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kevogod$60 seemed like a good deal considering it is $100 on Apple's site and most other places05:10
kevogod*seems05:10
dooglusRev-Marc: you can get a list of commands by pressing 'tab' in a terminal window, and you can find out what they do by typing "man <command>"05:10
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mustard5erick, what are you using it for?05:10
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aalexQuestion: I have Windows XP on a HD. I want to install a new HD which will be partitionned GRUB/Linux/FAT32/FAT32. Should I put this new disk first, as a master, and then the other one second, as slave ?05:11
gurubie2.6.12-8-686 did work so which would you use, that or 2.6.12-9-386 ?05:11
ericki use the manually deletion05:11
Enliteis there a php5 pkg that will install easily on breezy05:11
dougskokevogod: aldi has some sweet deals, thats where i got my puter from05:11
kevogoddougsko, I keep thinking they robbed an Apple semi or something05:11
warpforgehow do i install symbols for debugging?05:11
aalexEnlite : good question : do you know of a php4 one ?05:11
erickmustard i want to use it as my backup server for my DNS, email, proxy , vpn and fileserver05:11
dougskohaha05:11
Rev-Marcnalioth Thank you that is pretty kewl05:11
mustard5erick, ah k :)05:11
Enliteapt-get install php4 works nicely05:11
Trashcanlol kevogod05:11
doogluswarpforge: debugging what?05:11
Rev-Marcdooglus thank you I will try that05:12
warpforgelibcamel05:12
doogluswarpforge: is there a "libcamel-dbg" package?05:12
erickis this possible? my primay server is linux version 9 but im not satisfied for the updates05:12
doogluswarpforge: if not, you need to get the source & built it yourself05:12
kevogoddougsko, Aldi is a weird store.05:12
warpforgenope05:12
mustard5erick, it sounds possible05:12
doogluswarpforge: "apt-get source libcamel"05:13
mustard5I am no expert though05:13
gurubieSo it's -8-686 vs. -9-386 on my K7. Which would you choose?05:13
doogluswarpforge: it puts the source in the current directory, and you don't need to be root05:13
dougskokevogod: yeah it is, theres not one here in pittsburgh, but i wish there was05:13
mustard5erick, so you've used linux before?05:13
TiMiDoubuntu should give out cds with guide (:05:13
naliothTiMiDo: you have written one?05:13
erickyes purely redhat from version 9 to fedora 405:14
mustard5TiMiDo, I have a guide in my help menu on breezy :)05:14
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erickguys what is the min harddrive to used the LVM05:14
TiMiDonalioth:  not really getting there05:14
TiMiDomustard5:  give me the link =)05:14
Trashcanwhat's this speak of aldi i keep hearing?05:14
mustard5erick, ah ok...so your new to debian distributions?05:14
naliothubotu: tell TiMiDo about faq05:15
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TiMiDoyeah i'm reading05:15
mustard5TiMiDo, its built in05:15
mustard5:)05:15
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TiMiDooh nice05:15
naliothmustard5: it's also available online05:15
erickyes, before i try debian woody flavor and unfortunately im not succedful to fully run the system05:15
TiMiDoi'm gonna save the link -)05:15
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dougskoTrashcan: its just a cool grocery stroe thats real cheap and they sometimes have awesome deals on electronics05:15
TiMiDonalioth:  can u download it as a pdf?05:15
mustard5nalioth, ah ok..I didnt know05:15
TylerDurdenim trying to install ut2k4 but it asks for the second cd and it wont let me eject the first one05:15
TylerDurdensaying its busy05:15
naliothTiMiDo: i believe ubotu just sent you the link05:15
Rev-MarcOne last thing tonight, how do I turn off my touchpad in Ubuntu (no settings in bios to do it )05:16
TiMiDoyeah05:16
erickmustard how many harddrive should i use to be able to use the LVM05:16
TiMiDoi'm there i'm asking if you can download it as pdf05:16
kevogodTylerDurden, I thought you said you resolved this problem.05:16
mustard5erick, I know nothing about LVM's05:16
TylerDurdenapperantly not kevogod05:16
naliothTiMiDo: only if you see a link05:16
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TylerDurdenit was working fine yestarday05:16
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erickK try to fiure out05:16
Enlitewhat is the advantage of using LVM or not using it05:16
kevogodTylerDurden, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom005:17
kevogodWell, first sudo umount -f /media/cdrom05:17
mustard5Enlite, I would hope it would make mounting groups of partitions easier...but I dont know05:17
TylerDurdenmount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only05:17
TylerDurdenmount: /dev/cdrom already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy05:17
TylerDurdenmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom005:17
TylerDurdensays its busy with the -f05:17
kevogodWell, then do sudo umount -f /media/cdrom05:17
naliothTylerDurden: what have you seen about pasting in here?05:17
dooglusEnlite: does it let you dynamically resize your partitions?05:17
TylerDurdensays its busy again kevogod05:17
ksmurfanyone have audacity working in breezy?  If so what did you do?05:17
TylerDurdengrr come on nalioth give me a break please05:18
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kevogodTylerDurden, Turn on Remote Desktop05:18
TylerDurdennot everyone likes opening the browser to copy, paste a small 3 line code05:18
crimsunksmurf: you have to disable the sound server startup first.05:18
mustard5TylerDurden, use #flood05:18
dooglusTylerDurden: freenode policy is no pastes bigger than 10 lines05:18
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erickdoes ubuntu support iptables05:18
kevogodThat was only 3 lines of paste05:18
rob_perick:  yes05:18
crimsun*.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net will be down for about 10 minutes.05:18
figmentI tried to install Firefox updates, the update manager gave an error, and now Firefox won't start at all.  What should I try to fix it?  Please help.05:18
ksmurfcrimsun how so?05:18
kevogodI wouldn't quite call that excessive05:18
TylerDurdenkevogod, u wnana control my comp?05:19
linuxbombTylerDurden, just paste 9 lines at a time05:19
crimsunksmurf: System> Preferences> Sound05:19
nalioth#ubuntu channel policy is to use a pastebin or #flood05:19
erickhow about firewall builder can I used it05:19
Hobbseefigment: uninstall firefox mozilla-firefox then install mozilla-firefox05:19
kevogodTylerDurden, I love controlling people's computers.05:19
naliotherick: if you wish05:19
Trashcanare there any commands in the CLI that are built into the kernel, and not actual applications?05:19
TylerDurdennot but im being serious, u wanan try?05:19
kevogodTylerDurden, Sure05:19
TylerDurdenok how do i give u the code? i have a router and it doesnt give the real code05:19
figmentUsing the Synaptic Package Manager?05:19
dougskoerick: firestarter is a nice and easy firewall05:20
mustard5TylerDurden, I'd give it a go if I was set up to do it :)05:20
linuxbombTrashcan what like | or >05:20
kevogodTylerDurden, Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/05:20
Rev-MarcOne last thing tonight, how do I turn off my touchpad in Ubuntu (no settings in bios to do it )05:20
kevogodYou might want to private message me05:20
naliothkevogod: you can get his IP right here05:20
ksmurfcrimsun Thanks again05:20
erickdougsko first time to hear that can guide me I try firestarter05:20
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figmentOr is there some other way to uninstall a program?05:20
warpforgeRev-Marc: you can disable your touchpad in xorg.conf05:20
TiMiDofigment: apt-get remove program05:20
kevogodnalioth, Ah, I'm using to hostmasks05:20
naliotherick: a firewall is unnecessary in default ubuntu05:21
naliothkevogod: his IP is in the clear05:21
mustard5nalioth, erick is doing server install05:21
erickbut nalioth i want to secure my network i want to guard my DMZ05:21
kevogodYea I see05:21
Hobbseeis bugzilla.ubuntu.com down?05:21
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Rev-Marchow do I do that?05:21
naliotherick: your DMZ is upstream of your box05:21
figmentSo; apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox05:21
warpforgeis us.archive.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?05:22
erickyeah nalioth thanks mustard05:22
dougskoerick: it cant hurt and there almost no setup involved05:22
jsgotangcowarpforge, ubuntu.com is down for an emegency maintenance05:22
warpforgeah05:22
jsgotangcowarpforge, give it a few minutes05:22
naliothdougsko: didnt we have the fud talk yesterday?05:22
Xenguyerick: shorewall is worth a look if you want a firewall05:22
erickyeah I know but I want to to put additional firewal on my network facing the outside world05:22
linuxbombubuntu.com has a virus05:22
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dougskolol ok, ok, fine i wont say anymore about it05:23
Trashcanlinuxbomb: no i mean like, 'pwd' style commands, not piping05:23
Hobbseewarpforge: ah, so they're all going down currently are they?05:23
Xenguyerick: firewalls are fine, and useful, it you decide you want one05:23
erickbut Im not expert in doing ip forwarding so I need a simple and easy to handle firewal05:23
naliotherick: if you configure your network services properly, a firewall isnt necessary on linux05:23
Xenguyerick: I only know shorewall05:23
naliotherick: is this box gonna be your network router?05:24
figmentTiMiDo, what I need to type is; apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox?05:24
linuxbombTrashcan, what the hell are you saying that "ls" or "cd" can exist in the kernel and not be installed or what05:24
Trashcanim asking if there are any that are05:24
Xenguynalioth: I agree it is not always necessary, but it does increase the amount of control one has over packates that come and go05:24
Trashcanout of curiosity05:24
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TiMiDofigment: yeah05:24
naliothTrashcan: most of your 'builtin' commands are actually in the shell05:24
naliothXenguy: depends on if erick is installing for router use or use behind a dedicated router05:25
ericknalioth Im not using router my source of internet is just a dsl connection,05:25
luckyabaamarok just skips through without playing my mp3's... whats causing this?05:25
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erickand limited ip address05:26
naliotherick: be careful with your iptables05:26
Cranehiya all05:26
Xenguyerick: if your box is next to the Net, it is functionally a 'router', or better, a 'gateway'05:26
figmentIt says:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:26
naliothfigment: use sudo05:26
ericknalioth thanks05:26
nomasteryoda|wCrane, so how's things in Alabama?05:26
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CraneGreat05:26
nomasteryoda|wso i guessed right?05:27
arkanesanyone having any trouble with the apt repositories?05:27
Cranethe weather is finally cooled down05:27
Craneyep05:27
nomasteryoda|wgood hope it is on the way into GA05:27
naliotharkanes: yes, they appear to be flunctuating atm05:27
erickxenguy yes this will be next to NET and want to use proxy for internet sharing05:27
nomasteryoda|wover in Macon05:27
CraneI'll try to send it your way :)05:27
figmentOkay.  It is uninstalling.05:27
naliotherick: carry on. be carefule with your iptables05:27
Madpilotarkanes: Ubuntu.com seems to be having some problems, I can't even ping it05:27
figmentThen I should be able to run the packages?05:28
Xenguyerick: So it is a gateway -- I would never run a gateway without a firewall (but nalioth may have other ideas, so ...)05:28
dougskonalioth: take a look at this though if you want. debian does recomend one if you have a static http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm05:28
arkanesMadpilot: yes, same here. Wasn't sure if it was just me05:28
dougskoim not crazy05:28
dougskook, now im done05:28
nomasteryoda|wCrane, cool05:28
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nomasteryoda|wso you using ubuntu ?05:28
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ericksince I have limited resources in term of machine, I will used it as my fileserver, vpn,proxy and backup for my DNS server05:28
CraneMe? all the time05:28
LinuxBoyX6Xhello there could you help me out with firestarter05:28
erickcan this be possible?05:28
Xenguyerick: anyway, if you go ahead, I recommend 'shorewall' -- that's about all I have to say :-)05:28
LinuxBoyX6Xhello there could you help me out with firestarter05:28
erickk thanks xengut05:29
dougskoLinuxBoyX6X: yeah man05:29
tritiumLinuxBoyX6X, don't repeat please05:29
erickhope you will guide me with this05:29
naliothdougsko: yes static. most of us are on dynamic dsl/cable/dialup connections05:29
figmentNow I should apt-get mozilla-firefox?05:29
dougskook, but how would i know that?05:29
LinuxBoyX6Xsorry about that, ok heres the prob, ive started firestarter i have a 512 kbps connection05:29
nomasteryoda|wCrane, yea... cool05:29
naliothLinuxBoyX6X: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13005:29
erickim alway online05:30
Craneare there any good linux podcast out there worth listening to?05:30
LinuxBoyX6Xnow im having only 200 kbps05:30
erickand ask for question05:30
LinuxBoyX6Xhow can i speed things up?05:30
dougskoLinuxBoyX6X: basically if you just apt-get it, and run it, you're pretty much good05:30
Cranejust now learning about them05:30
Madpilotarkanes: the ubuntu servers are down for maintenance, apparently...05:30
nomasteryoda|wCrane, using Ubuntu breezy mostly... some suse here.... er, the stuff from TheLinuxLink techshow05:30
nomasteryoda|wpretty good05:30
dougskoLinuxBoyX6X: it starts with all ports being restricted, you only have to open one if you're running a web service like apache or something05:30
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figmentNow I should apt-get mozilla-firefox?05:30
Cranecool I just got a couple podcasts of theirs, just haven't listened yet05:31
Hobbseefigment: if you can, the reps are down05:31
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Hobbseeand stick install between apt-get and mozilla-firefox05:31
Rev-Marcwarpforge what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?05:32
Cranenomasteryoda|w, I run hoary right now, plan on upgrading soon. I'm in the process of building a new one to run breezy05:32
erickguys help me to decide which is the better secure and easy to install and manage vpn server, openvpn or freeswan05:32
CraneSo does dist-upgrade to breezy work good?05:32
nomasteryoda|wCrane, cool... i have been using breezy on all my systems for about 1 month05:32
nomasteryoda|wyes05:32
nomasteryoda|wvery well05:32
Trashcan*.ubuntu.com still down :(05:32
Laforge38anybody use a Dell Inspiron 1150 and had to set up wireless?05:32
naliothCrane: works very well05:32
mustard5Trashcan, yeah..all dead05:33
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MadpilotTrashcan: maintenance, apparently05:33
Trashcana virus you say?05:33
Trashcan:\05:33
Trashcanok05:33
nomasteryoda|weven with ndiswrapper... which Laforge38 might need to get that wireless setup05:33
LinuxBoyX6Xok thnx05:33
dougskoive used openvpn as a client before. i dont think youll be disapointed with either05:33
nomasteryoda|w!tell Laforge38 about ndiswrapper05:33
CraneI may try it tonight05:33
Xenguyubotu: are you broken at the moment?05:33
ubotuXenguy: Wish i knew05:33
Xenguyhrm05:33
ditesh|cassinisince *.ubuntu.com seems to be down, can anybody tell me if postgresql-8 is shipped with breezy?05:34
nomasteryoda|wcool05:34
Laforge38nomasterydoa|w i have tried this here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 around 10 times and not working05:34
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, are you using WEP?05:34
nomasteryoda|wor wpa?05:34
HobbseeTrashcan: and kubuntu.org is down05:34
Xenguy!breezy05:34
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:34
ericknalioth does ubuntu support internal modem05:34
Trashcanim assuming kubuntu and ubuntu are hosted in the same place05:34
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w uh maybe what is WEP?05:34
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, check the version of your card... like mine is rev 205:35
Hobbseepresumably, bugzilla.ubuntu.com is also down05:35
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nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, no... you're not ... you would know05:35
naliotherick: hardware modems and very very limited support for windmodems (means no winmodem support)05:35
ksmurfcrimsun do I just have to shut the sound server off on startup of audacity? or do I have to keep it off the whole time?05:35
transgressanyone have the ubuntu breezy torrent?  i'd like to pull it real quick05:35
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w ok what comman is it to check version?05:35
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erickyou mean to say its better to use external modem than internal?05:36
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, so the card firmware revision is what i'm referring too ... you can find out with "lspci"05:36
nomasteryoda|wlooking for broadcom or bcm05:36
tritiumerick, not all internal modems are winmodems05:36
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mustard5what brand is your modem erick ?05:36
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w for network controller it is rev 0305:36
Trashcanis there a command to see the pcmcia devices?05:36
TiMiDoTrashcan: lspci05:36
fredforfaenwhats a good data recovery tool for linux?05:36
Trashcanlol..05:37
naliothfredforfaen: there is none05:37
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naliothfredforfaen: once you rm it, it's gone05:37
TiMiDodid i say something funny Trashcan ?05:37
Xenguyfredforfaen: what is the specific situation?05:37
kevogodnalioth, Um, that is not true.05:37
Trashcannah, lol @ me05:37
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, ok... do you have the dell winXP drivers?05:37
Trashcanthanks tim05:37
naliothkevogod: educate us please05:37
fredforfaennalioth i know for sure it is so with ext205:37
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Rev-Marcwarpforge what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?05:37
Laforge38yes05:37
kevogodnalioth, Removing the pointer does not remove the file from the hard disc05:37
foxmi'm new to linux and just downloaded airsnort but dont know what to do next?05:37
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, extract the ".inf" and ".sys" files05:37
nomasteryoda|wfor that version05:38
pupilI have vmware on linux host and guest windows 98.  I am having problems connecting network interface for the windows 98 guest.05:38
intuit_K$EE05:38
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w yes05:38
Rev-Marcanyone what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?05:38
transgressokay why are all the mirrors down at the same time that ubuntu.com is down?05:38
intuit_CK05:38
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38,  if you have already installed ndiswrapper with one of the drivers05:38
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intuit_K_$EE05:38
naliothtransgress: b/c if you "host" the mirror URLs they all resolve to the same machine05:38
kevogodnalioth, If you delete files and there has not been heavy hard disc access, you will most likely be able to recover a lot of the files05:38
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, run this command ... "ndiswrapper -l" to see what is loaded05:39
TiMiDois ubuntu.com down?05:39
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transgressTiMiDo yeah05:39
mustard5TiMiDo, yes05:39
kevogodTiMiDo, Would appear so05:39
nomasteryoda|wTiMiDo, for maintenance05:39
TiMiDooh why?05:39
TiMiDooh ic05:39
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naliothkevogod: HOW?05:39
crimsunksmurf: just when you start it05:39
intuit_yay maintanence is cool!05:39
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intuit_kj'05:39
intuit_jk05:39
naliothkevogod: tell us in #kubuntu-offtopic05:39
navynanybody here use Pan?05:39
Ky0tIkif you are using Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy please give it a review at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=607   if you are a 5.04 or previous user of Ubuntu please still read the review, and consider the update!  Even though Breezy will be finished in just 1 day, reviews help users out a lot!! take the time to read these reviews, and if you have experience good or bad, please post it, but be honest!05:39
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naliothnavyn: yes we do05:39
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Jenocinhow do you format a usb external harddrive? qtparted and gparted don't seem to wanna do ext305:39
frank23navyn: I've used it before, why?05:39
naliothKy0tIk: what are you doing?05:40
figmentIt has intstalled Firefox.  Should I need to restart before it will open?05:40
nomasteryoda|wfigment, no05:40
navynnalioth, if you are downloading files that are split, what is a good prog in linux to join them?05:40
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Ky0tIktrying to get everyone to help out before breezy is finished05:40
Xenguynavyn: cat ?05:40
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5 driver present, hardwar present05:40
Cranecan't upgrade just yet, servers are still down05:40
nomasteryoda|wfigment, you can open another terminal and type firefox05:40
Ky0tIkis that wrong or something?05:40
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nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, where's the "a" on the driver?05:41
naliothnavyn: depends on how they are split. the most common method is rar05:41
nomasteryoda|wwith the revision 03 card you need the bcmwl5a driver05:41
figmentNothing.  It still won't start.05:41
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nomasteryoda|wat least thats what i learned05:41
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Jenocinanyone know?05:41
intuit_i've used breezy since it was available. i love testing05:41
nomasteryoda|wfigment, try to locate it05:41
intuit_;-] 05:41
Laforge38nomastryoda|w no05:41
ajmitch_intuit_: since april? :)05:41
navynan example would be ace.par2, ace.vol0+1.par205:42
nomasteryoda|wfigment, terminal... type "which firefox"05:42
figmentHow do I do that?05:42
Ky0tIkintuit_: i hear ya!05:42
intuit_i think05:42
luckyabato install w32codecs in ubuntu 63 bit.. all i do is download and extract into /usr/lib/win32 right?05:42
erickmustard conexant05:42
luckyaba64 bit sorry05:42
naliothluckyaba: /usr/local/lib/codecs05:42
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, the bcmwl5a.inf is the one to use05:42
Laforge38oh05:42
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, you should remove the one you installed05:42
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transgresswoo05:42
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figmentOkay, it says usr/bin/firefox05:42
darius_ubuntu.com down?05:42
transgressfinally found the damn torrent05:42
Burgundaviadarius_, yes05:42
figmentNow what?05:42
nomasteryoda|wusing "ndiswrapper -e /pathtodriver/bcmwl5.inf"05:42
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nomasteryoda|wor some such05:42
Jenocinmkfs.ext3 doesn't seem to be functioning correctly in breezy05:43
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Jenocinanyone else having issues?05:43
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w command to uninstall?05:43
HobbseeJenocin: with what?05:43
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, that is the command05:43
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nomasteryoda|wcd to the folder where you put the drivers05:43
dougskoJenocin: maybe try qtparted for formatting needs05:43
nomasteryoda|wextracted them i mean05:43
Jenocindougsko I am and gparted05:43
navynin my download folder there are no associations with the file i downloaded.  how could i extract them, without going over to windows?05:44
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Jenocindougsko both are giving me mkfs.ext3 issues ext2 seems to be fine, its an external usb drive I am adding to the system05:44
nomasteryoda|wfigment, try running it using full path05:44
dougskoJenocin: hmmm....im not sure then05:44
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niklokhello05:44
Hobbseehi05:44
transgressgah05:44
terciohi05:44
transgressthe tracker runs off of ubuntu.com05:44
dougskohi guys05:44
transgressdamn it all05:44
niklokeverytime I click on the "home folder" or anything like that... it doesn't open..05:44
bur[n] erbut I want ubuntu now!!! 1.5 days.. aww05:44
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niklokit says "opening...."05:44
niklokthen closes05:44
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niklokis it hidden somewhere? :P05:44
Bad_Magicwhy dont we throw up another tracker then?05:45
intuit_I need to contribute more. i got skills, but have been waiting for a distro that dose'nt make me want to pull my hair out. there is no point if the project is F**ED from the get go. ubuntu has a real bright future.05:45
TylerDurdenr the respetories (sp) down?05:45
bytefooyes05:45
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erickniklok have you ls -al to view the files05:45
BurgundaviaTylerDurden, all of ubuntu.com is down05:45
Jenocincould format it ext2 and fat32 just not ext3...05:45
carpediemniklok: sounds like nautilus is experiencing problems.  try killall nautilus, then open home05:45
TylerDurdenhow long does it usually take them to come up?05:45
ajmitch_intuit_: join the MOTU team for dapper ;)05:45
naliothnavyn: what is the name of ONE of the files?05:45
bytefooshould i be worried that all of my memory is being used up :|05:45
terciotem algum aqui que fala portugues?05:45
niklokwhat's killall nauthilus? and what does it do?05:45
navynace.par205:45
Bad_Magicit kills the gui in gnome05:46
bytefooi mean, i've got a GIG05:46
bur[n] erintuit_: werd... bring that app you make... QuickBooks right? ;)05:46
nomasteryoda|wbytefoo, you seeing problems with your system running commands?05:46
navynnalioth, ace.par205:46
Bad_Magicand then restars them05:46
figmentHow do I run using the full path?05:46
luckyabanalioth: i moved my extracted files from the w32 package to /usr/local/libs/codecs.. (i had to make the codecs directory) but amarok wont play mp3's05:46
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nalioth!pt05:46
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bytefooyeah, sluggish performance05:46
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:46
bur[n] erbytefoo: it 'caches' it all05:46
tercioportugues? portuguese?05:46
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w so "sudo uninstall bcmwl5.inf"05:46
carpediemniklok: for instance "killall firefox" would kill all instances of firefox...."killall nautilus" will kill all instances of nautilus.05:46
intuit_ tottallyyy! i am willing to put serious time into this project.05:46
Xenguyfigment: pwd05:46
bur[n] erbytefoo: I assum you're not "using" it all05:46
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intuit_lol05:46
naliothnavyn: you need to install par2 from the repos05:46
bytefooyeah there is a lot cached05:46
dougskobytefoo: type 'top' in the terminal and you can see all your processes and how much cpu theyre using. then you can pkill the offending program05:46
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, no05:46
Jenocinbytefoo: maye sure dma is turned on and the swapdisk is running05:46
bytefooi turned swappiness up to 100 but it never sticks05:46
niklokah05:47
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, cd to that folder05:47
niklokwell, what is nauthilus?05:47
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nomasteryoda|wwhere you extracted bcmwl5.inf05:47
bur[n] erbytefoo: linux is smart and "utilizes" all your ram :)05:47
navynnalioth, i guess i'll have to wait until they are up huh?  never heard of par205:47
intuit_;] 05:47
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w cd to /etc/ndiswrapper?05:47
_jasonnalioth:  why does pt get directed to brazil only?05:47
bur[n] eras long as most of it is cache, you're ok05:47
bytefoooh yeah, my swap is definately being used05:47
bytefooyeah most is cache05:47
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, nope05:47
carpediemniklok: it is gnome's file manager.  That's what you see when you click on Home05:47
bytefoostill, i thought my hardware was good enough :/05:47
naliothnavyn: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll explain it05:47
bur[n] eryour swap is being used too?!?05:47
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w which folder?05:47
nomasteryoda|wthe actual folder where you placed the bcmwl5.inf file first...05:47
bytefooyes05:47
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bytefoooh wait05:48
carpediemniklok: and it's spelled "nautilus", which is important when you type killall nautilus05:48
Jenocinburner same here05:48
bytefoothat was the network graph :/05:48
bur[n] erhehe05:48
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, i have no clue where you extracted the file... but most times i put mine right in home folder05:48
bytefooyah seems ok05:48
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luihello hello05:48
bur[n] eris it just me or is ubuntu.com down?05:48
bytefooguess i should switch wm's to something mo elightweight :/05:48
bytefooit's down05:48
Hobbseeubuntu.com is down05:48
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w i followed this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 if that helps05:48
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38,  so the command would be "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5"05:48
nomasteryoda|wok05:48
Hobbseealthough ubuntuforums are not :D05:48
bur[n] ereh05:49
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luiit is ubutulinux.org05:49
luiit is ubuntulinux.org05:49
intuit_my harddrive is on its last leg. time to go shopping.05:49
figmentOkay, I made Firefox open.  How do I change things so that is will run from the menus on the desktop?05:49
bur[n] eralthough... wiki.ubuntu.com is up still :)05:49
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bytefooit's all up05:49
bytefoonow :/05:49
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nomasteryoda|wThomasM, howdy05:50
nomasteryoda|wagain05:50
ThomasMoi nomasteryoda|w05:50
luiand now I check ubuntu.com and it is online05:50
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nomasteryoda|wlui, they must have installed new kernel05:50
nomasteryoda|w=)05:50
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_native_im intuit05:51
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luinomasteryoda|w, yep, maybe it is :)05:51
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figmentFirefox will launch if I type; sudo firefox  But it won't launch from the menu.05:51
_native_haha05:51
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luican I disable sudo for other users of ubuntu?05:52
enigmaticthat's incredibly odd05:52
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frank23figment: that is strange...05:52
_native_welcome to the jungle ahh we got fun and games!05:52
enigmaticlui yes05:52
bur[n] erfigment: mv ~/.firefox ~/.firefox-old05:52
kYotiKcan someone check a screenshot out for me and tell me what something is? i have a url.. i was just looking at something and i have been wanting to use this for a while05:52
bob832hey, is there a program like WinSCP for Linux or is the SCP command the only thing available?05:52
Madpilotfigment: you shouldn't really be launcing FF w/ sudo at all...05:52
bur[n] erer... figment:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old05:52
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ThomasMlui: Yes.05:52
naliothkYotiK: what it it?05:52
enigmatickYotiK, can try05:52
frank23figment: you could try to reset your profile but bur[n] er beat me to it05:52
Jenocinhow do you label partitions?05:52
bur[n] erfigment: your user config is prolly just messed up05:52
_native_anyone seen procrastination_nation lately?05:52
figmentWill I have to do this for all users?05:52
luienigmatic, ok, now I have to find the way05:53
bur[n] erfrank23: i beat ya, but I should have checked first ;)05:53
kYotiKwell its something simple05:53
nomasteryoda|w_native_, thats kinda off-topic is it not?05:53
enigmaticman sudo05:53
dougskolui: type 'visudo' in terminal and take users out of the file05:53
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w the only bcmwl5a i have is an .ini05:53
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nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, so you do have the bcmwl5a.inf ...05:53
_native_yeah he's a local friend05:53
kYotiKit is those cool looking application bars, and the embedded apps into the desktop, like winamp, etc... i just want to know how to use those05:53
nomasteryoda|wno?05:53
kYotiKlike the ones in these screen shots i have.. is it ok to post them in the chan?05:53
luidougsko, oh is just that easy? jejeje, great :)05:53
Laforge38nomasteryoda|w not in the driver i downloaded from dell05:54
enigmatickYotiK,  in gnome?05:54
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, you need the .inf file.. that contains the descriptors needed by ndiswrapper to install the .sys file05:54
nomasteryoda|wer, mine has it05:54
naliothkYotiK: use #ubuntu-offtopic05:54
dougskolui: yeah but you might need to google vi commands, cause theyre kinda wierd05:54
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kYotiKenigmatic, yes its in gnome05:55
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Laforge38nomasteryoda|w  so all three files have to be bcmwl5a?05:55
kYotiKenigmatic, im sorry i meant xmms not winamp lol05:55
frank23lui: if you don't know vi, use nano05:55
malvanyone else get strange errors when compiling code now that it uses gcc 4.0?05:55
_native_i stick with 3.405:55
luidougsko, oh ok, I'll need to google into that05:55
malv. /usr/include/c++/4.0.2/bits/sstream.tcc:112: error: expected unqualified-id before '(' token05:55
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luithanks frank2305:56
frank23lui: nano is much easier05:56
enigmatickYotiK, all you need to do is create a custom panel, add the apps you want to it and place it where you want it05:56
dougskolui: you can use nano, but you cant edit the sudoers file directly, it can be corrupted. i forget how to use another editor on it05:56
concept10Firefox has problems playing embedded video on my system sometimes.  How do I disable the totem-mozilla plugin?  I want use mplayer only...05:56
ThomasMmalv: I've had issues with defined constants, but patched around them.05:56
nomasteryoda|wLaforge38, the inf and sys need to be05:56
figmentI typed mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old, and firefox still won't run.05:56
luckyabahow can i get w32 coodecs working in ubuntu 64 bit?05:56
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malvThomasM: I just decided to link gcc and g++ back to 3.405:56
gurubieGrub screen is black, no selection seen but can be selected (arrow down.) I tried commenting (out) the graphics menu line in "menu.lst" but still dark. How do I fix?05:56
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erickguys hello05:57
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luidougsko, all right, I have to be careful05:57
prcDoes anyone here have any experience using IPOD with breezy?05:57
kYotiKenigmatic, what about the apps that are embedded into the desktop, like i have seen xmms, network stats, weather, etc.. how do u do that too?05:57
frank23luckyaba: look in the amd64 forums, but my suggestion is to use the x86 version of ubuntu05:57
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BROKEN_LADDERwhy this channel not use a jabber conference room?05:58
BROKEN_LADDERirc deads05:58
malvis it?05:58
Jenocinok how do you stop automounting in gnome?05:58
enigmaticsec, let me look05:59
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ThomasMBROKEN_LADDER: Um. We're not really here then, are we?05:59
dougskoJenocin: edit /etc/fstab05:59
Trashcanreally? irc is dead?06:00
Xenguy /igr BROKEN_LADDER06:00
Trashcan...alert the internets06:00
prcDoes anyone here have any experience using IPOD with breezy?06:00
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Jenocinits  usb.. keeps putting it back in.. problem is with the gpart and qparted it mounts the partition before it formats it06:00
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BROKEN_LADDERprc you'd have a really easy time using a cowon iaudio player in linux since it works as a usb mass storage device.06:00
frank23prc: ask the question, if someone can help, they will06:00
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BROKEN_LADDERirc is obsolete, let me put it that way.06:00
ericknalioth how can i star the gui session im using sever mode06:00
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BROKEN_LADDERirc is like miles.  jabber is like metric.06:01
phiqtionwhere can i update my sources.list ?06:01
frank23BROKEN_LADDER: what are you doing here then ^06:01
ThomasMBROKEN_LADDER: Then you'd do well to stay off it, yes?06:01
naliotherick: you want a gui on the box?06:01
malvThomasM: no need to be rude06:01
erickyes06:01
erickthere is no startx command06:01
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ThomasMmalv: Mea culpa.06:01
erickand even init 506:01
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dougskophiqtion: you can edit it inside synaptic06:01
BROKEN_LADDERi'm trying to convert the masses.  drop qwerty, use dvorak.  use esperanto.  use jabber. use vorbis.06:02
BROKEN_LADDERuse metric06:02
frank23BROKEN_LADDER: use esperanto....  that one will take a while!06:02
carpediemThis "Add Applications" feature in Breezy is brilliant.06:02
nomasteryoda|wer, we use what works BROKEN_LADDER ... that is a fact.... and IRC does work well . .. end of story.06:02
dougskophiqtion: otherwise its here, /etc/apt/sources.list06:02
erickbrb its lunch time here06:02
ThomasMnomasteryoda|w: Tested and refined by years of use, it is.06:02
nomasteryoda|wcarpediem, kinda like "add-remove programs" in windows , huh?06:03
nomasteryoda|wThomasM, true06:03
phiqtiondougsko, im trying to find xine or mplayer or any codecs. i just installed breezy RC.06:03
figmentI can't get firefox to run without using sudo.06:03
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://www.craigslist.org/sfc/cas/103544257.html06:03
carpediemnomasteryoda|w: no, that doesn't show me programs that I don't have installed like this does.06:03
BROKEN_LADDERfrank23 ne vere.  mi nun uzas in, kaj ne havas problemojn.06:03
figmentIt opens right up if I type sudo first, but does absolutely nothing otherwise.06:03
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BROKEN_LADDERseru la 'reton por i, kaj spektu iujn la situojn kiuj temas pri i.06:04
nomasteryoda|wcarpediem, i stand corrected... i try not to use windows..06:04
dingn06:04
BROKEN_LADDERheh.06:04
BROKEN_LADDERbye06:04
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carpediemnomasteryoda|w: ugh...me too...work is work.06:04
_jasonfigment:  check if you have a firefox process open... ps aux | grep firefox06:04
nomasteryoda|wlol06:04
TylerDurdendoes smoeone mind VNCing me and helping me out ejecting a cd?06:04
bur[n] erfigment: you remove the config directory?06:04
_native_lets just always keep linux linux and not try to be so "user friendly" that we lose the security, robustness, and modularity06:04
nomasteryoda|wTylerDurden, did you try the icon on desktop?06:05
TylerDurdenyes06:05
TylerDurdenand eject with -f06:05
phiqtionhow can i download mplayer, xine, multimedia codecs in sypnaptic?06:05
dougskophiqtion: apt-get install vlc, vlc will play bassically everything right out of the box06:05
carpediemTylerDurden: did you try typing "eject /media/cdrom"06:05
figmentI need to remove the config directory?  How do I do that?06:05
TylerDurdenyeah06:05
ThomasMTylerDurden: Is it still mounted at all?06:05
nomasteryoda|wTylerDurden, sudo :06:05
TylerDurdencan someone please VNC me and see whats wrong?06:05
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Trashcanlol tyler06:05
bur[n] erTylerDurden: i'm more than happy to vnc :)06:05
TylerDurdenok burner06:06
TylerDurdenill pm u my ip06:06
Trashcani'll do it no problem :)06:06
TylerDurdenok trashcan i trust u more06:06
luiwhat vnc?06:06
wabblecarpediem: i agre, but i get a problem every time i try to choose open with on vlc. Its irritating06:06
figmentI type ps aux | grep firefox and it says 7715  0.0  3.4  56404 17680 ?        Sl   Oct11   0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox   10880  0.0  0.1   3032   716 pts/0    S+   00:05   0:00 grep firefox  But I don't know what that means.06:06
luiwhat's vnc?06:06
bur[n] ereh, whatever06:06
bur[n] ergood luck Trashcan06:06
Trashcanlolol06:06
Trashcantrust me more?06:06
frank23figment: kill 771506:06
bur[n] erVNC == virtual network computing == remotely controlling a desktop06:06
_native_virtula network computing06:06
Trashcani was just going to rm -rf /06:06
nomasteryoda|wlui, ask google06:06
frank23figment: and try to open again06:07
Trashcantyler: ask someone who knows the answer :(06:07
carpediemwabble: not sure I follow, you mean when you click on VLC in "Add Programs"?06:07
TylerDurdenuhh i thought u could help me06:07
phiqtiondougsko, that package isn't found. i need to update my souce list06:07
figmentYes that worked.06:07
luioh ok06:07
TylerDurdenbur[n] er, u wanna try?06:07
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figmentThank you.  :)06:07
bur[n] erTylerDurden: sure... got vnc ready?06:07
dougskophiqtion: it might be under universe06:07
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ThomasMTylerDurden: I asked you a bit ago.  Is the drive still mounted at all?06:07
Xenguy /igr TylerDurden06:07
TylerDurdenuhh i think, i set password and allowed access06:07
Trashcanlol xeng06:07
phiqtiondougsko, there's nothing that says universe06:08
TylerDurdenthomas i dont feel like explaining ti again06:08
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phiqtiondougsko, it just says multimedia06:08
_native_you should tunnel vnc with ssh or use tightvnc06:08
figmentI am going to check the other users, and hopefully I won't be back.06:08
carpediem"How I got owned" an autobiographical memior by TylerDurden06:08
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dougskophiqtion: hold on i gotta look at it06:08
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wabblecarpediem: err, they fixed it now i think :p06:09
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phiqtiondougsko, ok06:09
wabblebut now vlc wount play anything after an update here today so i did totem-xine06:09
_native_no shit! plain text vnc= owned.06:09
dougskophiqtion: go to settings->repositories06:09
Trashcanlolololol @ carpediem06:09
dougskophiqtion: and add the one that says universe06:09
dougskophiqtion:then search for vlc06:10
bur[n] eranyone know if VINO can do reverse vnc??06:10
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_native_im purely a ssh person no need for vnc.06:10
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_native_yet.06:10
carpediem_native_: I tunnel vnc through ssh.06:10
_native_;] 06:10
ThomasMbur[n] er: You mean connect to a listener?06:10
phiqtiondougsko, none says universe06:10
_native_great.06:10
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bur[n] erThomasM: yes06:11
bur[n] erexactly06:11
Hobbseeubuntu seems to be back up, including repositories06:11
bur[n] eri was hoping to help out TylerDurden06:11
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_native_;] 06:11
phiqtiondougsko, everyone on that list are all already added06:11
ThomasMbur[n] er: Very doubtful.06:11
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bur[n] erwell crap06:11
ThomasMbur[n] er: He's inside a firewall?06:11
bur[n] erThomasM: i dunno06:11
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bur[n] erbut to be sure, reverse vnc would be nice ;)06:11
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bur[n] erthen I don't have to worry about his side06:12
bur[n] erand only my side has to work06:12
=== bur[n] er uses reverse VNC all the time for people
carpediem_native_: how do you remote in without VNC?  X?06:12
_native_read firewalking a journey thru the enterprise by _native_06:12
ThomasMbur[n] er: Yep. Very, very handy.06:12
warpforgei recommend freenx06:12
transgresswouldn't vnc w/o x be like screen -x?06:12
kevogodcarpediem, Use another protocol?06:12
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carpediemtransgress: well, I mean XDMCP06:13
dougskophiqtion: there really should be a repository called universe, and you should be able to search for vlc, im really not sure why it wouldnt come up06:13
Trashcanhm06:13
Trashcanwhich vnc client do you guys use? :)06:13
carpediemtransgress: you can get to an X session using XDMCP without VNC.06:13
kevogodTerminal Server Client06:13
phiqtiondougsko, okay found it. just i check mark everything or just universe and multiverse?06:14
ThomasMI'm fairly fond of TightVNC, especially with its added file transfer capabilities built into the UI.06:14
_native_i just ssh and have the server side sshd.conf setup to forward X06:14
TrashcanI have no idea how to do that native :)06:14
carpediemTightVNC on Linux, UltraVNC on Windows.06:14
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ThomasMcarpediem: What does Ultra do that Tight doesn't?06:14
bur[n] erkeep it open ;)06:14
bur[n] erultra has a nice full screen mode that works better than tight06:14
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dougskophiqtion: its probly not a great idea to get too much stuff from universe and multiverse unless you really need it because those programs are not supported06:15
bur[n] eralthough... neither of their fullscreen modes support hotkey passing06:15
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n0odl3hi im starting to use cedega to enable me to install my tablet (pen and tablet) drive on linux06:15
_native_tightvnc is good there is a howto on getting stronger encryption with it. google06:15
carpediemThomasM: the server installs a video driver, and when using a UltraVNC client to connect to an UltraVNC server, the performance is much, much better than normal VNC.06:15
n0odl3however i need to know how to get the "fglrx drivers for my video card06:15
n0odl3does anyone know how to obtain these?06:15
ThomasMcarpediem: Free client, or does it require purchase?06:15
transgressn0odl3 check the wiki06:16
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Madpilot!tell n0odl3 about ati06:16
eyequeuen0odl3:  sounds like ati: see the restricted repos06:16
darius_n0odl3: get xorg-driver-fglrx06:16
dougskoanything cleartext is never a good idea. ssh is really worth learning to use06:16
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kevogodCleartext makes everything easier06:16
n0odl3darius what is xorg-driver-fglrx?06:16
carpediemThomasM: free...not sure of the license....free as in beer at least.06:16
eyequeuedooglus:  amen06:16
kevogod:P06:16
tritiumn0odl3, read the wiki page on ATI06:16
frank23kevogod: for who?06:16
transgressthere is more than just xorg-driver-fglrx ... you also need the restricted modules.  and you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:16
_native_i dont remember is ssh AES enabled?06:16
kevogodfrank23, people06:17
cafuego_bicyclerepairpersonman strikes!06:17
darius_n0odl3: the driver06:17
dougskoplus tunnels are cool. surf the web in privacy at work :)06:17
ThomasMcarpediem: Cool. Leaving my self a note to look into it.06:17
_native_ive always used blowfish.06:17
transgressanyone here use gizmo?06:17
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eyequeue_native_:  256 192 and 512 aes cbc i believe are in the list of preferred06:17
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darius_The latest build of X for Breezy has destroyed ATI config for so many systems06:17
jarenjoin #ubuntu-devel06:18
jaren:)06:18
transgressdarius_ yeah it does, but a good dpkg-reconfigure will fix it... it broke the configs for those who config'd by hand or used fglrxconfig ... like me.06:18
n0odl3once i get these drivers my cedega wont freak out everytime i try to install something right?06:18
eyequeue_native_:  i was tweaking this last night on a new box amof06:18
darius_n0odl3: run fglrxconfig after the depencies are install06:18
tritiumdarius_, according to hwo?06:18
tritiumwho?06:18
n0odl3or in theory06:18
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cafuego_darius_: ati purchasers deserve whatever they get ;-)06:18
darius_transgress: dpkg-reconfigure didn't fix mine06:18
_native_wireless phone + laptop + tools = fun06:18
darius_transgress: but fglrxconfig did fix it - nc623006:19
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transgressdarius_ peculiar... did you just do the auto config with dpkg-reconfigure?06:19
sector10why is the default download desktop, shouldnt it be home/user?06:20
transgressdarius_ or did you set up your monitor and stuff by hand?06:20
LuVUnTugot a simple question ... instead of the run application on the application pulldown there is an add application. how can i add run application back?06:20
cafuego_sector10: Why?06:20
darius_transgress: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org06:20
cafuego_sector10: ANy new users would get lost if that was the case ;-)06:20
_native_Ubuntu should include the Mcity-Milk-Chrome.tar.bz2 theme it looks so good on my laptop.06:20
transgressdarius_ but when you ran that, did you set anything by hand or just let it auto probe?06:20
n0odl3will this stop cedega from creating "zombie" windows and malfunctions during installing a windows programs on linux computers?06:20
darius_transgress: auto-probe06:20
eyequeueLuVUnTu:  does alt-f2 help?06:21
n0odl3(the fglrx drivers)06:21
transgressdarius_ that's why.  it doesn't do so well with that and the fglrx driver.06:21
darius_transgress: it appeared to find everything .. but it didn't work.06:21
sector10cafuego: is that the reason? its also firefox default makes sense i guess06:21
Jenocinok almost there anyone know how to change the label on a vfat partition?06:21
darius_transgress: I didn't have fglrx installed initially06:21
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LuVUnTuthat's a great shortcut eyequeue thank u ... that'll do06:21
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transgressn0odl3 that sounds more like a cedega problem... but i know you sure as hell wouldn't get games running well with cedega with the ati driver... fglrx would be needed.06:21
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cafuego_sector10: I guess the reasoning is that people who don't ike it are advanced enough to change it.06:21
darius_transgress: I fresh-installed 5.10 RC .. which worked.  As soon as I updated the xorg .. it stopped working06:21
sector10cafuego: problem is if new users install kubuntu-desktop they might have then errors06:21
n0odl3does anyone use cedega?06:22
n0odl3i need to know how to use it06:22
transgressn0odl3 cedega has excellent support for their paying customers.06:22
n0odl3i see06:22
sector10cafuego: same goes if you create shortcut or launcher on desktop06:22
LuVUnTuone last question ... is there a text-base web browser for ubuntu that is already installed by default?06:22
guru54does gnome support bluetooth very well?06:22
dougskon0odl3: point2play is a gui front end to cedega06:22
transgressLuVUnTu links2, lynx, w3m06:22
EIGHTBALLfresh install of breezy.. community maintained repositories unresponsive06:23
Burgundaviaguru54, not as well as KDE, as much as it pains me to admit it06:23
sector10anybody use sytem: administration: disks to add windows partition?06:23
n0odl3yes i have point2play06:23
eyequeueLuVUnTu:  i dont think so, but sudo apt-get install lynx links elinks should help :)06:23
n0odl3what does gui frontend mean?06:23
_native_graphical user interface06:23
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dougskon0odl3: its a nice graphical way to use use cedega06:23
spstarrdo we have xvidcap in breezy?06:23
kevogodn0odl3, It is a program that interfaces with a command line utility06:23
transgressjesus christ... someone should probably be reading more about linux...06:24
spstarrdoesn't seem to be :(06:24
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Yetr2n0odl3, it means that the user interface for the application is a graphical type interface06:24
guru54yea i am currently using mandriva and was going to try unbuntu and was wondering, i dont really need bluetooth but it was nice to sync some stuff with it but thanks Burgundavia06:24
tritiumtransgress, huh?06:24
LuVUnTutransgress:  i got w3m but not the others ... thanks for ur help too eyequeue06:24
n0odl3can cedega allow windows programs to run on linux?06:24
XorlevMostly games06:24
dougskon0odl3: some06:24
n0odl3(like a certain cg program i like to use)06:24
XorlevBut not all programs.06:24
n0odl3i see06:24
LuVUnTumuch oblige transgress06:24
n0odl3how about drivers?06:24
transgressn0odl3 it's more of a games thing... look into wine for others.06:24
woodwizzleis there anyway to see some sorta progress bar when using commands like cp or mv in a terminal?06:24
n0odl3i see06:25
XorlevNo it doesn't run drivers.06:25
sector10cafuego: what about system:administration: disks? if new users add windows here its trouble06:25
transgressn0odl3 why are you using linux?06:25
Yetr2n0odl3, cedega is geared mostly for gaming with windows games on a linux platform06:25
dougskon0odl3: wine works too for some and its free06:25
_native_or really an API alot of commandline tools are considered APIs such as the wirelesstools collection.06:25
n0odl3isee06:25
n0odl3 thank you06:25
kevogodlol06:25
XorlevMoron.06:25
Yetr2woodwizzle, not really, most you can do is -v06:25
dougskolol06:25
aalexQuestion: The Debian formatting tool tells me that there is no partition table on my disk. Fine. My partitions are : /boot, swap, /, /home, FAT3206:25
Xorlevwoodwizzle: Theres this nice bash script called bar that works like that...google it06:25
Yetr2aalex, are you looking at the correct disk?06:25
woodwizzleYetr2: Thanks, thats not bad. Shoulda thought of that06:26
sector10cafuego: it defaults to mount point /home06:26
aalexYetr2: what ? of course06:26
bimberiwoodwizzle: both commands have a -v (for verbose) option06:27
aalexYetr2: this is a blank disk06:27
aalexI am trying to create those partitions06:27
Yetr2oh....06:27
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aalexthere are lots of errors06:27
duncanmhmm, i'm trying to install eclipse on breezy06:27
Trashcancan you format a CD with ext3, and mount it as an hdd?06:28
duncanmi have "apt-get install eclipse-platform eclipse-rcp libswt3.1-gtk-java mozilla-browser libnspr406:28
duncanm"06:28
Trashcani doubt it, but that would be neat06:28
mikei just used synaptic to install scribus on ubuntu.....how do i start the program?06:28
duncanmand i end up with,   mozilla-browser: Depends: libnspr4 (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu05.04 is to be installed06:28
naliothduncanm: you are using non official repos06:28
kevogodTrashcan, Uh, no06:28
dougskomike: ./scribus06:28
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Trashcanyeah kevo :p06:29
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JoxerWhen you mount your disk you do it as root (sudo) but now i cant access my disk :( Any solutions06:29
Yetr2aalex, unless you are doing something like raid or LVM, you really don't need /boot as a seperate partition. Also, an IDE HDD can only have 4 primary partitions, you'll need to create 3 primary and 2 extended partitions06:29
Yetr2with what you currently want06:29
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mikedougsko: thank you06:30
dougskomike: yep, it also might be under one of the menus06:30
duncanmnalioth: i don't think so, i followed the instructions on BreezyUpgradeNotes06:30
Joxeranybody know ?06:30
_native_you cant create 2 extended partitions.06:31
_native_if you have 3 primary06:31
woodwizzlehow do you do a search with apt-get06:31
aalexYetr2: /, /home, swap, /music fat32 (extended), /stuff fat32 (extended) ?06:31
duncanmwoodwizzle: apt-cache search <item>06:31
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n0odl3does anyone here have a "Tablet"?06:32
DavidLeeRothcomo estan ustedes hoy? How are you guys doing today?06:32
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dougskoDavidLeeRoth: bien06:32
Yetr2aalex, are you planning on having windows read the partitions?06:32
dougskoy tu?06:32
erickguys06:32
phiqtionhow can i download multimedia codecs in sypnatic?06:33
DavidLeeRothI have a question.  I lost my root password but i got it back by chroot'ing into /bin/bash by logging in root on a ubuntu livecd.  I also forgot my Win2k password.  Does anyone have any tips for getting it back>06:33
naliothduncanm: have you ever had non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?06:33
aalexYetr2: yes, thats why some gonna be FAT3206:33
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tritiumDavey, chntpw06:34
duncanmnalioth: before, yeah06:34
duncanmnalioth: how do i purge those old entries, then06:34
tritiumDavidLeeRoth, chntpw06:34
erickcan i use gui in my ubuntu server mode06:34
DavidLeeRothEstoy de buen humor ahorita porque dormi por 3 horas.06:34
duncanmnalioth: is it that i have an odd version of libnspr4 installed?06:34
naliothduncanm: you put a # in front of the line in your sources.list06:34
tritiumDavidLeeRoth, english here please.  Spanish in #ubuntu-es06:34
naliothduncanm: most likely, yes06:34
duncanmnalioth: can i force it to install the one from the breezy repo?06:35
naliothduncanm: if you wish06:35
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duncanmnalioth: how do i do that?06:35
n0odl3does anyone here use a pen and mouse tablet?06:35
Yetr2aalex, I don't see what the problem is then06:35
duncanmapt-get -f install libnspr4?06:35
n0odl3or does anyone know what im talking about?06:35
n0odl3anyone?06:36
tritiumduncanm, don't give a package name when you use -f06:36
naliothduncanm: grab the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and "sudo dpkg --force-all filename.deb"  <<<<MAY KILL YOUR BOX06:36
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ericknalioth how can i use gui on my ubuntu i install server mode06:36
n0odl3Anyone?06:36
duncanmhmm06:36
tritiumerick, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (for gnome)06:37
duncanmor i can apt-get remove libnspr4 and reinstall06:37
naliotherick: what desktop do you like?06:37
_native_erick use apt-get install gnome-core06:37
naliothduncanm: that would be better06:37
_native_or yeah whatever desktop suits you06:37
naliotherick: install the desktop you are familiar with06:37
erickwhat is the default desktop06:37
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tritiumgnome, erick06:37
_native_gnome is the best imo06:37
Joxerdoes anyone know how i can mount a ntfs disk, and get access to it, concidering the fact that you mount it as root ?06:37
ericktritium thanks06:38
tritium_native_, ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-core06:38
ericknalioth thanks06:38
naliothubotu: tell Joxer about ntfs06:38
_native_yeah if you want a lot of crap that wont ever be used or wont be used util the user knows what all those apps even are06:38
cafuego__native_: I think that's up to erick to decide, not you.06:39
_native_uh yeah06:39
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aalexYetr : where do I set a partition to be extended, not primary ?06:39
cafuego_If you give the user a full set, theyc an always delete or ignore what they don't need. As opposed to asking for more software in here coz they can't find it.06:40
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aalex(in the ubuntu installer)06:40
erickwherecafuego im just asking waht is the default desktop in ubuntu because this is my first time to use it06:40
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_native_gnome is the default06:41
eyequeueerick:  ubuntu=gnome, kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce, the later two being variants06:41
naliotherick: install ubuntu-desktop06:41
Joxerthanks nalioth :)06:41
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duncanmheh, i didn't know xubuntu is for xfce06:42
Razor-Xeyequeue: we have a xubuntu now?06:42
naliothJoxer: np06:42
tritiumyes, Razor-X06:42
ericknalioth thanks06:42
naliothduncanm: xubuntu is new with breezy06:42
Razor-Xwe should have rubuntu06:42
Razor-Xratpoison :P06:42
aalexrox rocks06:42
duncanmsome of the apps in xfce look nice06:42
gurubieWhat's the fastest way to set a group of multiple copied directory and files to my user permissions WITH ubuntu?06:42
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Razor-XI'm finding it's excellent for minimalistic-ness06:42
naliothgurubie: chmod06:42
Razor-Xnalioth: hey, I coined that term :P06:42
eyequeueRazor-X:  i'm not sure of its official status, but i know there's been work on it for a while now06:42
erickguys thanks for response first i will look for the files where can i edit and put dns06:43
kevogodeubuntu could be confused with edubuntu06:43
Razor-Xeyequeue: lemme look that up06:43
Razor-Xkevogod: yeah, i've heard that before, that's why eubuntu was canned06:43
Razor-Xat least, that name anyways06:43
aalexWell, now , guys. In the installer, how do i set a partition to be secondary, not primary partition, on a IDE disk ?06:43
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gurubieIs there a GUI way for a new user (with password) to change multiple permissions?06:43
kevogodenubuntu06:43
naliothgurubie: chmod06:43
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kevogodenlubuntu06:44
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Razor-Xkevogod: but then, I proposed the name before edubuntu was made06:44
_native_rightclick -> properties-> permissons06:44
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gurubienalioth, I've previously not done chmod, where do I start?06:44
starscallingok!06:44
starscallinghow about learning about firewalls?06:44
naliothgurubie: open a terminal and type "man chmod" or do as _native_ suggested06:44
kevogodRazor-X, You are good at selecting names06:44
Razor-Xkevogod: :P06:45
naliothstarscalling: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13006:45
_native_u can highlight multiple directories or files and change all the highlighted file permissions06:45
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_native_highlight= rightclick hold rightclick -> drag over files06:46
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eyequeuegurubie:  chmod g+x file*.pl is an example that makes files exectuable for the group ... the man page is good06:46
erickwhere is the file where can i put my dns ip address06:47
misterdiffis there anyway that i can get a sample configuration of the ubuntu kernel?06:47
misterdiffso i can compile my own06:47
eyequeueerick:  are you looking for /etc/network/interfaces? (man 5 interfaces)06:47
tritiummisterdiff, in /boot06:47
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bimberierick: /etc/resolv.conf06:48
erickmisterdiff try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4306506:48
tritiummisterdiff, if you do, I suggest you use ubuntu linux-source packages, and kernel-package06:48
_native_anyone used prelinking : preloading with gnome?06:48
erickeyequeue I already edit that file bimberi try to check that06:49
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eyequeueerick:  what i said to set your ip, what bimberi said if you want to specify servers06:49
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davidleerothwhat was that app again? chntpasswd?06:49
eyequeueerick:  not positive your needs there06:49
erickeyqueue yeah I know I already edit that file06:50
ngmlinux_anybody know how to make a .zip file in ubuntu (yes specifically a .zip that can be uncompressed in windows not a gz or bz2)06:50
_native_man zip06:50
erickeyequeue how can I log as root06:50
tritiumhey there ngmlinux_06:50
eyequeuengmlinux_:  there's an app called ... zip :-)06:50
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davidleerothwhat was that app again? chntpasswd?06:51
_native_sudo passwd root -> set passwd -> enter -> fuss up your system good. ;] 06:51
bimberingmlinux_: Apps -> Accessories -> Archive Manager06:51
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eyequeueerick:  well, we usually sudo before a single command, but "sudo -s" will get you a root shell, if you want that06:51
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ngmlinux_zip -r folder_to_be_zipped?06:52
Madpiloterick: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:52
erickbut what password will i use06:52
thewayofzenwhen x.org and compositing is completely worked out its gonna rule  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/thewayofzen/xfcetrans.jpg06:52
luipeople, can I make aMule look with a better interface?06:52
ngmlinux_does that sound right?06:52
Madpiloterick: with sudo, you use your own user pw06:52
eyequeueerick:  you use your own password when running sudo anything06:52
thewayofzenwith dropshadows and trans xfce panel i dont mind the bit of slowdown i get.. but with transset on any window my box is useless.06:52
erickmadpilot eyeque thanks i got it works06:52
DaveySo, Breezy comes out tomorrow, if I update now, am I essentially getting the breezy release?06:53
Razor-Xthewayofzen: ratpoison is cleaner than XFce :P06:53
eyequeueDavey:  if you have breezy in sources.list yes06:53
erickguys thanks it works06:53
thewayofzenRazor-X, not a fan are u?06:53
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Madpilotthewayofzen: that's shiny... I might have to try Xubuntu!06:53
Daveyeyequeue, so its *the* official 5.10 release there now? Its just not been announced?06:53
tritiumno, Davey06:54
luican I make aMule look with a better interface?06:54
Daveyso bunches of fixes etc will be added tomorrow? :)06:54
eyequeueDavey:  nah, there's still a few hours for devels to upload paniced changes ;-)06:54
Razor-Xlui: aMule has some skins06:54
dougskoany of you guys notice you have to right-click the desktop icon and choose eject to get your cd drawer to eject a cd?06:54
davidleerothis there a way to change nt passwords from a linux host?06:54
ngmlinux_I think I got it, thanks team06:54
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erickguys i will edit my apt source.list, can I uncomment all of the option to include on my repo06:54
tritiumdavidleeroth, I told yo how06:54
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jnoonwhen i click a link in firefox to a stream.cgi (which in windows pops up media player), it asks me what i want to do with it... anyone know what i can do so RealPlayer or something will pop up?  i tried chosing open with RealPlayer but nothing happened06:54
_native_yeah  dougsko that is an annoyance06:54
dougskolike the button on the drive does work when there's a disk in06:54
tritiumdavidleeroth, use chntpw, like I suggested06:55
luiRazor-X, but I google on it ut can't find nothing06:55
dougskoim not too sure how to fix that either06:55
luib06:55
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eyequeueDavey:  btw, it's been a few apps every few hours for a while now, it's not a once-a-day major thing06:55
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_native_me too doug though i have not even looked into fixxing it06:55
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dougskoyeah i admit i havent really tried too hard06:56
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tritiumnalioth_zZz, no sleep for you!06:56
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luianyone have aMule with a skin?06:56
davidleerothi use emule06:56
nalioth_zZztritium: PPPpffffffftttttt06:56
tritium:)06:56
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_native_it has to do with the userland software basically commadiering control of you drive06:56
Daveyeyequeue, I guess what I'm getting at is, is Breezy x86 + ATI stable? :)06:56
_native_sort of06:57
Daveyeyequeue, and how much is it going to break?06:57
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tritiumDavey, you're asking him to predict that?06:57
davidleerothi am on breezy now and it seems fine06:57
eyequeueDavey:  i dont do ati here so cant speak to that but as for the rest06:57
Daveytritium, damn straight I am :06:57
Davey:)06:57
_native_no breakage yet for me Davey on a ati 9200 laptop card all features work smooth06:58
Daveycool06:58
luidavidleeroth, I can't install lmule, it always gives me a lot of errors when compiling, and that is the one I want, I just hate the aMule interface06:58
eyequeueDavey:  breezy is just about as close to perfect as its going to get, and only has that one more error scheduled, the one that deletes your system :)06:58
DaveyI wonder if Dual Monitor support is any better06:58
Lickerwhat was that command to edit a restricted DOC?06:58
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Daveyeyequeue, which is a fresh install error, right?06:58
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eyequeueDavey:  i was joking that some last-minute error could technically be a disaster06:59
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_native_!seen procrastination_nation06:59
ubotu_native_: i haven't seen 'procrastination_nation'06:59
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davidleerothlui, have you considered limewire?07:00
eyequeueDavey:  i'm personally on breezy for a while now, but put hoary on a new install a couple of days ago.  dont want a newbies first taste to be a bug07:00
_native_bugs are good.............for reporting. ;] 07:01
_native_jk07:01
_native_i hate bad design + coding07:01
_native_= hell07:01
concept10Are the old kernels removed from the repositories after the new ones are released in breezy?07:01
eyequeueall these years later and she came to me *asking* for linux, can't blow it heh07:01
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luidavidleeroth, yes but it haven't so many files like the ed2k network07:02
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concept10anyone know that07:02
eyequeuethe livecd was great for that btw, pop it in, ask if she could handle that on her own, then offer to make it faster and permanent, heh07:02
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_native_girlZ are so helpless........... NOT!07:03
cafuego_auaoTouBu: Is it useful?07:03
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eyequeueconcept10:  i suppose you could browse the appropriate directory with firefox?  under /pool somewhere07:03
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Lickerwhat was that command to edit a restricted DOC?07:04
cafuego_Any ops awake?07:04
tritiumwhat's up cafuego_ ?07:04
phiqtionhow can i edit the grub?07:04
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cafuego_tritium_ this silly random-nicked join spammer07:04
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_native_/boot/grub/menu.lst07:04
cafuego_tritium: *!oxigfog@85.204.194.2307:04
eyequeuephiqtion:  you probable want /boot/grub/menu.list07:04
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phiqtioneyeque, thanks07:04
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tritiumgood call, cafuego_07:05
alfie anybody have a backport mirror website with servers that are currently working?07:05
cafuego_%? what's that do?07:05
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tritiumquiet07:05
_native_is it .list now ? ..... no07:05
concept10I just miss having old, well working kernels around ... I like to keep a couple of the older ones around07:05
cafuego_Ah, neet :-)07:05
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erickphiqtion try this file /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf07:06
eyequeueconcept10:  saved my butt more than once :)07:06
tritium:)07:06
erickim newbie in using debian but in redhat its on /etc/grub.conf and I guess thats the right file for debian07:06
concept10eyequeue, the old kernels are replaced in the repos when they are updated, they should keep a couple of versions in there07:07
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auraxhi07:07
auraxcan anyone tell me what the hack apt wants from me ?07:07
auraxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:07
auraxswat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed07:07
tritiumaurax, looks like backports hell07:08
cafuego_aurax: run 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' first07:08
auraxdid it07:08
cafuego_!info samba hoary07:08
eyequeueconcept10:  yeah, i'm stuck running 2.6.12-6-686 here because 2.6.12-9-686 won't work here07:08
ubotusamba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2300 kB, Installed size: 5956 kB07:08
cafuego_!info samba breezy07:08
ubotusamba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB07:08
_native_do a apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get update07:08
phrizerI'm trying to run 'make menuconfig' to configure some kernel source, and i get this  "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses" though i do have ncurses installed.07:08
phiqtioni downloaded the breezy RC, tomorrow the official version will come out. do i have to reinstall it?07:08
erickam I right to edit grub just go to this file /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf07:08
cafuego_aurax: Disable backports07:08
eyequeuephiqtion:  no07:09
auraxhmm07:09
auraxk07:09
cafuego_erick: /boot/grub/menu.lst07:09
eyequeuephiqtion:  did you install that rc version?07:09
tritiumphrizer, you need libncurses5-dev07:09
_native_u need thte dev ncurses07:09
phrizerOkei07:09
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_native_damn!07:09
auraxallready disabled07:09
_native_lol07:09
cafuego_good call, tritium07:09
tritium:)07:09
eyequeuephiqtion:  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade, tomorrow07:09
_native_;->07:09
cafuego_aurax: It is nevertheless trying to fetch from a backports repository07:09
erickcafuego ah k im sorry but grub.conf is in the /usr07:09
_native_wha?07:10
_native_ /usr07:10
_native_?07:10
auraxhmm?07:10
tritiumerick, cafuego_ would not lead you astray07:10
_native_sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst07:10
cafuego_erick, ... much07:10
auraxnew kernel upgrade?07:11
auraxkewl07:11
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tgatmpfs                 237M   13M  225M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile07:11
erickk I know cafuego is right, i try this file Im sorry again07:11
tgawhat exactly does this do?07:11
cafuego_erick: The boot menu definitions are in /boot/grub/menu.lst - there isn't anything else that requires user editing.07:11
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cafuego_tga: It indicates you should install an optimised kernel ;-)07:11
luiok people how can I get  wxWidgets 2.6.2?07:11
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erickcafuego not need to be edit? how can i secure my grub?07:12
_native_cvs madwifi + latest kernel + cvs wirelesstools = fun07:12
cafuego_erick: secure?07:12
flankk'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' produces -267 C.. is this acutally Kelvin? (if you ignore the negativity..)07:12
sextrip_mbayot07:12
tgacafuego_, I never saw that before.. what does it do?07:12
_native_secure it in what way password protected?07:12
erickin redhat you should include password so that changing root password by running in single mode07:12
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frank23flankk: no, that would be -6 degC if you do it your way07:13
erickis not permitted07:13
asdxbreezy will feature initng?07:13
LivingTargeterick: there is a password section in my /boot/grub/menu.lst it's commented out so have a look at it07:13
cafuego_tga: it's a ramdisk. Not sure why it needs to be one.07:13
auraxso how can i get swat installed?07:13
erickah k thanks LivingTarget07:13
phiqtioneyequeue, i did installed the rc version, why?07:13
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eyequeuephiqtion:  tomorrow, running "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade" will grab the changes that happened in this past week07:14
phiqtioneyequeue, how much MB aprox. ?07:14
eyequeuephiqtion:  no need to grab an entire cd image and all that again07:14
phiqtioneyequeue, how safe is that upgrade? isn't it better to grab the new cd image?07:15
asdxbreezy will feature initng?07:15
flankkfrank23, well.. what are you saying.  Do I have temp sensors or no?07:15
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eyequeuephiqtion:  well, it would depend on how much you installed of course, but i'd say just a few minutes d/l here07:15
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cafuego_erick: You can add a password option. use 'grub-md5-crypt' to generate a password. CHECK DOCS before you enabled this.07:16
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eyequeuephiqtion:  no ,that upgrade is very safe, it's something many of us do daily (and is how security upgrades are handled too)07:16
flankkfrank23,  'critical (S5):  -264 C' .. so something's up.07:16
erickin ssh can i used different port instead of the default 2207:16
erickcafuego I will try that07:16
cafuego_flankk: The cpu is freezing, quickly run a kernel compile!07:16
dougskoflankk: gkrellm will show you your cpu temp without sensors (im not really sure how it does it, but it seems pretty accurate)07:16
eyequeueerick:  -p 2222 if you wanted that07:16
Hackmohey, i'm using breezy and i'm having a problem with my webcam.  When I first updated to breezy my webcam worked fine (toucam pro2) but I updated my system a couple of days ago and now my webcam wont work07:17
Hackmoanyone got any idea what is wrong?07:17
erickits almost the same with redhat the main difference is the location of files07:17
cafuego_erick: /etc/ssh/sshd_config (add Port <portnumber> lines for each port you want it to listen on.07:17
phiqtioneyequeue, well, one thing though was, in the second install phase of ubuntu RC, everything it was downloading displayed this message: "error, wrong medium installed CD/Dvd" something similar to that, i cant remeber the exact message.07:17
melvztechieerick: hello, i just thought your used to Redhat or Fedora?07:17
frank23dougsko: it probably uses lm-sensors07:17
dougskoerick: you can change the port it runs on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config07:17
dougskofrank23: what are those07:17
erickmelv redhat 9 upto fedora 407:17
frank23dougsko: just the program that reads the sensor outputs07:18
dougskocool07:18
erickeyequeue how will I connect ssh ipaddress?07:18
auraxk welp i will install webmin-samba instead07:18
auraxbah07:18
cafuego_ssh ip -p port -l user07:18
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erickk cafuego thanks07:18
misterdiffwhere can i get an ubuntu 64bit version with smp supported so i can use the live distro and actually boot?07:18
eyequeuephiqtion:  hmm, you're free to start over if you'd feel more comfortable of course, but i'd tend to trust what has been running well for a week myself :)  but i may also have more experience i guess07:18
Hackmomy webcam is also used a mic, the mic part seems to be working fine07:19
phiqtioneyeque, which version on u are?07:19
phiqtionare u on*07:19
eyequeueerick:  'ssh -p 2222 127.0.0.1'07:19
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frank23misterdiff: the non smp version should work as well07:19
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jgrieves_what up07:20
eyequeuephiqtion:  i have breezy on this laptop, and hory on a desktop07:20
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jgrieves_alrighty I need an experienced GDM user :)07:20
JoxerIs there a mp3 player for linux that looks kinda like winamp ?07:20
BabbageHello, I have some kind of problem with HAL/udev/hotplug somewhere I think - when I plug in my iRiver, it doesn't automatically get mounted any more.  What should I check?07:20
eyequeuehoary07:20
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phiqtioneyeque, RC candidate?07:20
jgrieves_how can I restart X after initiating GDM07:20
misterdifffrank23, it doesn't07:20
flankkcafuego_,  I knew I should have consulted a professional before dipping my mobo in a pool of liquid nitrogen.07:20
jgrieves_per user07:20
tritiumjgrieves_, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart07:20
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frank23Joxer: beep-media-player looks like winamp07:21
misterdifffrank23, everytime i try it says it can't find a suitable kernel07:21
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jgrieves_tritium i need ot specifcy specifc x extensions per user07:21
Joxerthanks frank2307:21
jgrieves_so if user X logs in , X starts with ____ extensiosn07:21
jgrieves_and if user Y logs in, X starts with ____ extensions07:21
eyequeuephiqtion:  um, the cd is called that, but i've been updating mine daily from the net, no cd at all (install was warty)07:21
jgrieves_gdm loads up Xorg07:21
dougskoflankk: wow, that sounds like fun07:21
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frank23misterdiff: and you have a Athlon64 or Pentium 4-EMT64?07:22
jgrieves_and I edited the PreSession file to kick X and restart it based on a .xsession in the user directory07:22
jgrieves_but gdm doesn't like that07:22
jgrieves_one bi07:22
phiqtioneyeque, also, after breezy installed itself after all those errors. in the taskbar first thing that popped out was that there was 187 packages to update. i mean? i downloaded the latest version, why is it asking me to update every single package already installed? another weird thing was that i compared the version already installed and the version to be upgraded to. and they're exactly the same. any suggestions?07:22
DjKriticalDoes anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for edemu?07:22
alfieanybody have an hoary-backport server that works07:22
flankkdougsko, all07:23
flankkdougsko, all GKrellM does is monitor that file I'm having trouble with.07:23
dougskoflankk: oh ok, yeah i dont really know much about that07:23
auraxanyone here using samba?07:23
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erickyup07:24
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erickyes aurax07:24
auraxu got a tiny prob07:24
auraxi *07:24
eyequeuephiqtion:  some source packages do have a huge number of binary packages (gstreamer and xorg come to mind) and i know both have upgraded recently07:24
frank23alfie: backports is now with the official servers07:24
auraxi cannot see my box @ my network palces07:24
auraxplaces*07:24
nalioth_zZzalfie: all ubuntu servers are down atm07:24
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alfiethanks frank used the official server but it is down07:24
flankkdougsko, all I know is that I'm 3 degrees centigrade from critical..  Dunno what muliplier to use to get the correct temp though.. or how to find out.07:25
Babbagewhen I plug in my USB disk, it doesn't automatically get mounted any more.  What should I check?07:25
frank23nalioth_zZz: I use the ca server and it works right now07:25
alfienalioth:  will try tomorrow then07:25
alfiewhat is the ca server07:25
nalioth_zZzalfie: it doeant matter. it is all the same machine07:25
eyequeuephiqtion:  the number seems high, but it doesn't really surprise me i guess, considering that07:25
frank23alfie: canada   ca.archive.ubuntu.com07:25
jgrieves_tritium, you sitll with me?07:25
alfiei tried all from the backport project and official07:25
erickaurax what is your p[roblem in samba07:25
alfiefrank23: will try07:26
tritiumjgrieves_, no idea how to implement that07:26
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jgrieves_haha yeah07:26
phiqtioneyeque, you recommend me to update all that?07:26
Hackmoanyone having any cam issues on breezy?07:26
jgrieves_I don't really understand why GDM is tripping up, except perhaps its relying on the PID07:26
dougskoflankk: yeah it's wierd it would display the temp at -200+ 'C', b/c it's obviously not celcius07:26
flankkBabbage, check your /etc/fstab.. that you have kernel support.. etc.07:26
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jgrieves_of the Xorg its using07:26
eyequeuephiqtion:  yes, or wait a couple of days until the official release, if you have bandwidth issues there07:27
ericknalioth can i use openwebmail here in ubuntu? all of there packages are in rpm and source can this be possible07:27
frank23dougsko: -200 is not a realistic temp on any scale07:27
eyequeuephiqtion:  that way there will just be one d/l07:27
nalioth_zZzerick: if you see the pkgs, go for it07:27
ce_imutHEI07:27
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dougskofrank23: lol i know07:27
jgrieves_anyone else reall experineced in GDM?07:27
flankkfrank23, what does yours read so I can get a sense of what it should be.07:27
jgrieves_i'm sure its been done before, most likeyl with multiple monitors07:27
karratyf67f807:27
alfiefrank23: still gettingW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:27
ce_imutHAI CEW07:27
melvztechieerick: r u from PH? ur using info.com.XX07:27
dougskofrank23: what command did you use to get it?07:28
phiqtioneyequeue, good suggestion. thanks07:28
erickcan i use the rpm packages07:28
karratsdrtrdughf07:28
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dougskoerick: alien can convert rpm to deb07:28
erickmelv yes im from phil y?07:28
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melvztechieerick: you can get alien07:28
Babbageflankk> OK, well, I have no /dev/sdb, so there is no point worrying about /etc/fstab yet.   What is supposed to generate /dev/sdb?   udev?   hotplug?  Something else?07:28
flankkdougsko, perhaps it's subtracting an even 400 centigrade from the actual temperature?  Critical is -264C.. is that about right?07:28
ce_imuthai leh kenalan g'07:28
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eyequeuephiqtion:  no prob :)  a say wait a few days since the mirrors will be slow right after release too :)07:28
DjKriticalDoes anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for edemu?07:28
erickmelvs dougs thanks07:28
DjKriticalcdemu*07:28
tgace_imut, hai s nu07:28
ericki will try that07:29
melvztechiei see, just doing the same thing ur doing now;)07:29
cafuego_flankk: lm-sensors issue?07:29
dougskoflankk: can your processor EVER be too cold?07:29
Babbagedougsko, yes07:29
Greenskydoes anyone know what the daemon that puts the update icon in the gnome panel is?07:29
dougskohuh07:29
jgrieves_update-notifier?07:29
frank23flankk: dougsko I cannot read the temp the way you did07:29
phiqtioneyequeue, true. so u think its better off for me to don't ever again download and burn a ubuntu cd unless SERIOUS problemas occur, and just keep updating?07:29
flankkBabbage, if you have kernel support.. it will call udev to make the device node, yes.. so check your kern.07:29
jgrieves_Greensky: ps -A | grep update-notifier07:29
erickany pinoy07:29
Greenskyjgrieves : yeah that looks like that's it07:29
jgrieves_if you wanna kill it07:30
Greenskyjgrieves_, yeah, just getting that setup in xfce07:30
melvztechieahooooy!!!07:30
Greenskyno, going to run it07:30
Greenskythanks :)07:30
jgrieves_gotcha07:30
jgrieves_haha07:30
Greensky:P07:30
eyequeuephiqtion:  right :)  but if you want the cd to go install on all your friends machines, get a fresh cd of course :)07:30
Babbageflankk, it's stock linux-image-2.6.10-5-386, what should I check?07:30
cafuego_Greensky: that should autorun if you have new package lists and there are updates.07:30
flankkcafuego_, unsupported BIOS more likely?07:30
Greenskyalthough I just heard about xubuntu so maybe they'll integrate that into xfce now as an option07:30
erickmelvz from where r u07:30
ce_imutheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee07:30
karraada apa07:30
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jgrieves_ok, come on you GDM super users07:30
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Greenskycafuego_, probably not in xfce though07:30
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melvztechieBGO07:30
melvztechieu?07:30
erickwhat is BGO07:31
Greenskythanks jgrieves_ :)07:31
DjKriticalDoes anyone know of a gnome equivilent to daemon tools?07:31
misterdifffrank23, sorry. i have an amd64 x2 processor with integrated ati xpress 200. i can't get the damn thing to boot with the live or the install cd07:31
erickim from philippines07:31
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ce_imuthe kar07:31
sayonarahi folks07:31
jgrieves_Greensky: np07:31
phiqtioneyequeue, of course. are u busy? i can keep learning from u for 2 hours more if thats ok. lol07:31
cafuego_flankk: If it's ACPI yes. if lm-sensors, you'd need a proper config file (different chips needs different formulas to report the actual value)07:31
misterdifffrank23, tried the x86 version too but no luck07:31
jgrieves_DjKritical: BUM07:31
eyequeuephiqtion:  once breezy is out, you wont get updates any more, but i'd still run it every week or so to catch any security fixes07:31
Babbageflankk, how do I check if the kernel is invoking udev?07:31
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eyequeuephiqtion:  heh07:31
kikinova1Hi. I use Breezy Badger, and I wonder if I may safely install KMail (my preferred GUI mail app) in a GNOME environment without wrecking my system or creating a general mess07:31
melvztechieerick: lungsod bato07:32
jgrieves_DjKritical: search snaptic BUM07:32
flankkcafuego_, well the documentation is terrible.. where would I find out more about this?07:32
HedgeMagekikinova1: yep, I have a couple of kde apps07:32
jgrieves_will install to System > Administration07:32
kikinova1HedgeMage: how do they show up?07:32
cafuego_flankk: lm-sensors uses /etc/sensors.conf - that should have annotated chip entries and formulas.07:32
phiqtioneyequeue: can i change the wallpaper color to a vertical gradient blue? (login wallpaper)07:32
frank23misterdiff: I don't think the x2 is supported by regular smp kernel07:32
erickmelvz lungsod bato saan yan07:32
kikinova1HedgeMage: I mean? What's the result in graphical terms?07:32
eyequeuekikinova1:  i've never done it, but it sounds safe ... you'll just end up with more libraries on the system07:32
frank23misterdiff: I really don't know anything about this though07:32
melvztechieerick: hehehe hirap bah hulaan, d2 sa norte , baguio07:33
cafuego_frank23: The install cd wouldn't use an smp kernel anyway.07:33
kikinova1HedgeMage: what do the menu bar fonts look like?07:33
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flankkcafuego_, I'm using ACPI, and the /proc/acpi interface..07:33
melvztechieerick: how about u? loc plz?07:33
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Avenhi07:33
eyequeuephiqtion:  "probably" :)  i'm not a gui guy really though, so don't know how07:33
nalioth_zZzmelvztechie: erick english in here please07:33
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Avenwhat's a good FTP server?07:33
cafuego_flankk: Ok. ANy new bioses available for the mobo?07:33
melvztechiesorry guys07:33
Avenfor ubuntu.. (of course)07:33
kikinova1Aven: vsftpd07:33
cafuego_Aven: ftp.planetmirror.com07:33
Aventhanks!07:33
HedgeMagekikinova1: normally, they're just a smidge slower starting up when on a slow machine because the kde junk isn't already running07:33
cafuego_oh :-)07:33
flankkcafuego_, not an option..07:34
flankkcafuego_, the one installed is fully upgraded though.07:34
kikinova1HedgeMage: but they look ok?07:34
phiqtioneyequeue: xine or mplayer. they're not in the repository correct?07:34
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cafuego_flankk: Then I think you next best bet is to just ignore that readout.07:34
kikinova1HedgeMage: I prefer asking first cause I'm on dialup, and downloading qt and everything will take loooooooooong :o(07:34
jgrieves_anyone know how to make GDM load specific X sessions for users, rather than using the one setup (Xorg) at startup07:34
eyequeueubotu:  tell phiqtion about repositories07:34
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mahangui got mplayer installed07:35
mahangubut no sound07:35
eyequeuephiqtion:  i think universe for both07:35
kikinova1HedgeMage: anyway... thanks for your help07:35
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HedgeMagekingemer: they look fine :)  no problem.07:35
HedgeMage:)07:35
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erickmelvz from baguio? what is the wheather?07:36
n1xt3r_woah07:36
melvztechieerick: are you still there? hows ur *box* now?07:36
flankkcafuego_, is it likely it's simply subtracting 400 centigrade?  so -267C becomes 67C ?07:36
erickhows the weather?07:36
Avenfor vsftpd07:36
ce_imutkar dandi koen matita07:36
AvenI don't need any compiling or anything, right? :P07:36
erickmelvz yes , 67% of installing gnome desktop07:36
cafuego_flankk: Probably no more likely than subtracting 273 or adding 42.07:37
kYotiKEveryone who is using Ubuntu or plans to use Ubuntu please read the Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy" User Reviews at:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=607     its only 1 more day until Breezy is final, so these reviews help us all in the long run!!07:37
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jgrieves_thanks for that.....07:37
erickmelvz im from bulacan07:37
phiqtioneyequeue: i manually went in sypnantic and added universe and multiverse. but xine and mplayer still not there. with ur file, should i copy paste into my sources list?07:37
mahangureal audio opens in mplayer07:37
Razor-Xwow, first Knife of Dreams, then Breezy07:38
Razor-Xwhat an excellent month :)07:38
flankkcafuego_, the gnome hardware sensor monitor has a sensor value offset for a reason I think..07:38
erickmelvz are u man or girl? and how old r u?07:38
frank23phiqtion: did you update in synaptic?07:38
erickand ofcourse what is ur work07:38
eyequeuephiqtion:  in synaptic, now hit "reload"07:38
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cafuego_flankk: Yes, but unless you have a way to actually calibrate it, you're still just guessing :-)07:38
eyequeuephiqtion:  in apt-get it would be "update"07:38
flankkcafuego_, 400 _is_ more likely because all the temps are close, and 67 off 200..07:38
jgrieves_cafuego_ you dont' have any ideas for my issue do you?  if not im hitting the sack :)07:39
jgrieves_call it a night07:39
tritiumerick, can you please take the chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic?07:39
misterdifffrank23, yeah it is. i've got it working on a gentoo build now07:39
nalioth_zZzerick: melvztechie: what language do you speak?07:39
mahangu but ther si sno sound07:39
tritiumthat's Tagalog07:39
nalioth_zZz!ph07:39
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog07:39
Hendricwoah... 29updates today..07:39
ericktritium Im sorry07:39
misterdifffrank23, just would rather have ubuntu instead but i can't get that to boot07:39
tritiumerick, no problem07:39
cafuego_jgrieves_: I wasn't paying attention, what is your issue?07:39
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jgrieves_anyone know how to make GDM load specific X sessions for users, rather than using the one setup (Xorg) at startup07:39
ericknalioth tagalog07:39
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jgrieves_and if user Y logs in, X starts with ____ extensions07:40
nalioth_zZzerick: tagalog in #ubuntu-ph07:40
phiqtioneyequeue: i did reload. you're file? does it have mplayer or xine listed when i search for them?07:40
erickbut we can communicate using english07:40
EPSONLX300how can i share my printer to network?07:40
jgrieves_i tried klling Xorg in Presession07:40
Hendricerick, pre ayaw tagalog dire.. hehehe english only lolx07:40
jgrieves_and starting up another process07:40
cafuego_erick: Ja, als je hier bent kun je beter alleen engels gebruiken (of nederlands, als het cht moet!)07:40
jgrieves_but that killed it07:40
EPSONLX300walay bisdak dire?07:40
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Hendricbisdak present07:41
tritium!tagalog07:41
ubotuwell, tagalog is spoken in #ubuntu-ph07:41
EPSONLX300lol07:41
jgrieves_It looks like gdm, which makes sense, is connected to the Xorg is sets up to begin with07:41
EPSONLX300Hendric,  kabalo ka share sa network printer?07:41
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mahangunalioth_zZz, i got mplayer installed, but no sound07:41
EPSONLX300im using lx 30007:41
jgrieves_But I really need to load up sepereate Xsession files for specifc users, for extensions07:41
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mahanguplays .rmfiles fine though07:41
cafuego_jgrieves_: You cna give each user a ~/.xsession file with whatever they need to run in that.07:41
HendricEPSONLX300, sshh.. ayaw dire kasaban ta.. english only here07:41
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell mahangu about sound07:41
jgrieves_yep been there07:41
erickhendric yeah Im sorry07:41
nalioth_zZzgood night07:41
EPSONLX300pvt nalang Hendric07:41
erickcafuego Im sorry07:41
eyequeuephiqtion:  Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-586_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb07:41
jgrieves_problem is GDM dosn't use the .xsession file07:41
tritium!tell EPSONLX300 about tagalog07:42
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jgrieves_X is already laoaded by the time it hiits07:42
jgrieves_and its already told it to load gnome-session07:42
cafuego_jgrieves_: Yes it does, KDM doesn't :-)07:42
cafuego_jgrieves_: The trick is to (... let me check)07:42
jgrieves_BAH07:42
jgrieves_GDM is accessibile for disabled users, KDM was not, last time I checked07:42
erickcafuego what language you used07:42
eyequeuephiqtion:  apt-cache show mplayer-58607:42
mojo_hey ppl07:42
mojo_i just got new Tango theme07:43
mojo_it rocks on my breezy07:43
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cafuego_erick: nederlands07:43
jgrieves_screenshot mojo?07:43
mojo_hold on sec mate07:43
Hendricmojo, vista inspired theme looked nice too07:43
phiqtioneyequeue: i386 not available?07:43
mojo_aw...07:43
mojo_no host07:43
cafuego_jgrieves_:  d'oh, now X has crashed on the test box07:43
mojo_hold o07:43
mojo_I find a free host07:43
eyequeuephiqtion:  apt-cache show mplayer-386, then :)07:43
jgrieves_cafuego_ lol i crashed mine quite a few times :)07:43
tritiumnote: *.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net going down again for emergency network maintenance. ETD is 10 mins.07:44
jgrieves_Hendric: vista + transparent windows?07:44
Trashcanmmmm07:44
cafuego_sudo killall -9 Xorg07:44
Trashcanblurred composites07:44
cafuego_*whee*07:44
jgrieves_LOL07:44
mahangunalioth_zZz, sound works fine in xmms07:44
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Hendricjgrieves_, yeah... plus the cool office icons for gnome07:44
Trashcanlol cafuego07:44
otephello, how do i share a network printer?07:44
jgrieves_Hendric link?07:44
Trashcantheres a vista theme?07:45
phiqtioneyequeue: the dvd codecs listed in the ubuntu guide are not found. any known name by u?07:45
eyequeuetritium:  getting things all set before tomorrow's deluge? ;)07:45
jgrieves_and when I see the text in red, how are you guys doing that is that a PM or anything?07:45
Hendricvista theme -> gnome.org07:45
jgrieves_i haven't used irc very well07:45
tritiumeyequeue, not me, but the devs are.07:45
eyequeuephiqtion:  no, sorry07:45
Trashcanjgrieves_ : the red happens if someone says your name07:45
Hendricneed to eat... gudluck guys.07:45
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erickHendric thanks07:45
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jgrieves_Trashcan comes in red?07:45
erickcafuego k,07:45
Trashcanyup jgrieves_07:46
ckruegerok, i've got a serious problem07:46
jgrieves_thanks07:46
ckruegerhas anyone ever set up software RAID on  ubuntu 5.10?07:46
foxmi'm new to linux. how would i go about installing airsnort?07:46
cafuego_ckrueger: Yep.07:46
jgrieves_cafuego_ glad i could help you kill ur X sessions07:46
eyequeuetritium:  i've noticed the mirrors slowing for days, tomorrow will be like a ddos probably :/  good in one sense though07:46
ckruegercafuego_, ok, then riddle me this...  I set up a RAID1 array07:46
jgrieves_Vista no theme found07:46
ckruegerwell, 3 really...  one for boot, one for root, and one for swap07:46
cafuego_foxm: Start synaptic (from the System -> Admin menu), find 'airsnort' and install it.07:46
jgrieves_what am I looking for to see this Vista theme07:46
tritiumeyequeue, exciting times07:46
ckruegeri set up the partitions accordingly07:47
Hendricjgrieves_, getting the link wait07:47
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cafuego_ckrueger: I never claimed the one I set up actually worked ;-)07:47
jgrieves_cafuego_ thanks for looking into this for me07:47
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foxmcafuego: i searched for airsnort but there were no resurlts07:48
Hendricon a P-pro 200MHz with 64MB RAM... xfce is flying...07:48
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xynamaxi need help...i'm trying to install xlib6g and I cant find where to download the package07:48
jgrieves_Hendric awesome07:48
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ckruegeris this because it's building it?07:48
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eyequeueFilename: pool/universe/a/airsnort/airsnort_0.2.6-1_i386.deb07:49
Hendricbut firefox is killing it.. so fired up opera..07:49
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DjKriticalwhen you do a modprobe, does that load the module into the kernal everytime you boot up?07:49
eyequeueubotu:  tell foxm about repositories07:49
cafuego_foxm: Then you need to go into Settings -> Repositories (in synaptic) and make sure 'universe' and 'multiverse' are enabled in the sections.07:49
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tritiumDjKritical, no.  For that, add the module name to /etc/modules07:49
ericknalioth sharing of printer possible with samba? if yes how?07:49
eyequeuefoxm:  universe07:49
ProtequeHendric: yeah. opera is nicer to the system07:49
cafuego_!info airsnort07:49
ubotuairsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 180 kB07:49
DjKriticaltritium, thats07:49
ProtequeHendric: and a better browser imho07:49
DjKriticaltritium, thanks07:49
tritiumnp07:49
xynamaxi need help...i'm trying to install xlib6g and I cant find where to download the package07:50
ckruegerdoes anyone know why setup would hang at the end after installing on a software RAID1 array saying "Running mdcfg..."?07:50
cafuego_foxm: Also, the wireless driver for your card needs to support monitor mode (not all do)07:50
ckruegerdoes it take a while to run in 2 200 gig drives?07:50
HendricProteque, but a headache with plugins.. just for flash.. took me 20 forums to get working07:50
erickHendric I agree with Proteque and there is new features you can use the speak cmd07:50
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ProtequeHendric: perhabs. I dont use flash07:50
cafuego_ckrueger: switch to alt-F2; start a shell, see what's running.07:50
ProtequeHendric: in my experience flash is only used for commersials and lame pages.07:50
jgrieves_lol07:51
MadpilotHendric: I used the Flash file off Macromedia's site, and it installed easily07:51
MadpilotHendric: with Opera on Ubuntu, that is07:51
jgrieves_dont forget the spank the monkey games!07:51
Hendricnow i got opera with flash, mplayer (video streams), java.... but took me d whole day to get them working07:51
erickwhat is the meaning of lol?07:51
ckruegercafuego_, the moment i did it, and was about to hit enter to activate the console, it switched to INIT607:51
Protequejgrieves_: how could I forget :D07:51
ckruegeri guess that means it was finishing?07:51
Trashcan opera takes less resources?07:51
cafuego_ckrueger: <heh>07:51
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HendricMadpilot, doesn't for me.. segmentation fault after installing flash from macromedia07:51
jas_Can someone help me?07:51
cafuego_ckrueger: .. so its rebooting now.07:51
hondjeI like Epiphany, great browser and real light07:51
seethrujas_: whats up?07:52
ckruegercafuego_, yeah, that's what i t looks like...  now i get "error loading operating system"07:52
ProtequeTrashcan: seems like it. never testet if it actually do though.07:52
MadpilotHendric: Breezy or Hoary?07:52
jgrieves_cafuego_ not trying to bug you, but are you still working iwth me, or should I hit it tonight?07:52
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Trashcanhmm07:52
erickTrashcan thats true unlike with firefox07:52
cafuego_ckrueger: woot, no bootlader.07:52
Trashcancooool07:52
Trashcanthis machine is sloooooowwwwwwwww07:52
jas_I am trying to install the Nvidia Linux graphics driver07:52
Hendricbreezy Madpilot.07:52
Trashcan900mhz p307:52
ckruegercafuego_, but at this point i can set up a bootloader on the software RAID, right?07:52
tritium!tell jas_ about nvidia07:52
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jgrieves_Trashcan you ever read The Stnd?07:52
Razor-XMadpilot: there's absolutely nothing wrong with Opera anymore, you know07:52
Trashcannosir07:52
Razor-Xi'm surprised it hasn't become more of a staple, as of late07:52
ProtequeTrashcan: 900mhz P3 is not that slow actually if you have enough mem.07:52
cafuego_jas_: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'07:52
jgrieves_Trashcan one of the characters is Trashcan man :)07:53
Trashcanhalf a gig... i just like to complain07:53
Trashcanlol jgrieves_07:53
ProtequeTrashcan: hehe okay. well if it ease your pain.07:53
TrashcanPackage opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:53
ProtequeTrashcan: download package for ubuntu at opera.com07:53
Trashcanroger07:53
Trashcanthanks07:53
MadpilotHendric: I'm still running Hoary, and Opera+Flash works great - I'm going to be very, very cautious about updating to Breezy, because I can't function without Opera07:53
cafuego_ckrueger: It should not have rebooted until installation was done (including a boot loader)07:53
Hendrichttp://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1088 <-- get this then this --> http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/534 <-- cool vista inspired.07:54
Madpilot!tell Trashcan about opera07:54
ckruegercafuego_, i think it had, but i hear of problems booting off of a software RAID arra07:54
ckruegery07:54
Hendricwell opera is working great on my breezy...07:54
foxmthanks everyone07:54
Trashcanhey thanks madpilot07:54
jas_It says I need to turn off Xsession07:54
MadpilotTrashcan: np07:54
cafuego_ckrueger: Nah, with lilo that works just fine (I do it on multiple machines).07:54
jgrieves_cool07:54
erickhendric does sharing of printer possible with samba07:55
jgrieves_cafuego_ not trying to bug you, but are you still working iwth me, or should I hit it tonight?07:55
Hendricerick, of course07:55
erickhow?07:55
cafuego_jgrieves_: Nah, my brain is fied and the test box isn't cooperating.07:55
erickim going to edit the smb.conf?07:55
jgrieves_ok, can you point me anywhere for tomrorow searching?07:55
ckruegercafuego_, are the devices labeled "md0", "md1", etc?07:55
Hendricerick, yeah..07:55
cafuego_ckrueger: yep07:55
EPSONLX300erick do we have common probs  printer sharing?07:55
jgrieves_cafuego_ GDM's configuration doesn't really mention it07:55
Hendricsmb.conf does it all to share printers or folders with specific security..07:56
erickyes07:56
jgrieves_but you sound pretty confident that it can be done ?07:56
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ckruegercafuego_, is there any kind of rescue environment on the ubuntu disc from which i can fix lilo?07:56
EPSONLX300i need to know howto share my LX 300+ shared to network pls help me07:56
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cafuego_jgrieves_: basically, if you have a .xsession, it SHOULD read that. Previously it did that just fine on my machine.07:56
Hendrici better start eating.. before my parasites get mad.07:56
jgrieves_really? crud, just an .xsession in their directory07:56
EPSONLX300Hendric, where can i find smb.conf folder?07:56
tgaEPSONLX300, use cups to get it working, then export it with samba07:56
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HendricEPSONLX300, /etc/samba/smb.conf07:56
EPSONLX300tga tell me how07:56
cafuego_ckrueger: You can boot the install cd, start a shell and do whatever needs doing.07:56
jgrieves_hmm well i'll give it a go tomororw :)07:56
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tgaEPSONLX300, can you print from linux?07:57
EPSONLX300next step Hendric to that07:57
ckruegercafuego_, is there any way to have it set up lilo as default, or do i need to do a manual config?07:57
cafuego_ckrueger: You'll need to run mdadm etc by hand, but if you know the partitons you;'ll be fine.07:57
EPSONLX300tga yes of his own pc not in network07:57
dougskook guys, im off to bed, good luck with everything07:57
jgrieves_cafuego_ thanks, did you have to stop X, or just have your own .xsession file in ur home directory?07:57
HendricEPSONLX300, first of all.. make sure that you can print locally...07:57
EPSONLX300yes it is printing locally07:57
EPSONLX300done07:57
cafuego_jgrieves_: With an .xsession in my homedir, it sues that. if none, it sues the system default (gnome).07:58
gurubieDoes Breezy updated have a graphical GRUB menu or is it just text?07:58
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EPSONLX300whats the next step to client Hendric07:58
jgrieves_cafuego_, noted, thanks07:58
Hobbseegurubie: just text07:58
jgrieves_nigiht all07:58
Hobbseegurubie: but you can always uncomment the colours section so it's made of pretty colours07:58
jgrieves_thanks for help07:58
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Trashcandid anyone pull up that vista theme?07:58
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HendricEPSONLX300, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36189.html <-- helpful07:59
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spackestso, dumb question, if I have a box that is 5.04 and another that is 5.10, if I copy the 5.10 sources.list to the 5.04 box and do apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade, will the 5.04 box become 5.10?07:59
aftertafspackest:  yes07:59
spackestthat kicks07:59
gurubieHow do I install a graphical GRUB menu in Breezy?07:59
Trashcanubotu: tell spackest about breezy07:59
spackestreally?  wow07:59
gogetalol07:59
aftertafapt-get dist-upgrade ;)07:59
gogetahi all08:00
HendricEPSONLX300, http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/smb.conf_sharepublicfoldersreadwritesecurityuser <-- helpful too...08:00
spackestreally?  apt-get dist-upgrade will magically move me to 5.10?08:00
gogetayep08:00
spackestI don't even need the sources dance?08:00
aftertafgurubie:  you can install a grub splash package and then you say which png file you want as a backdrop08:00
Hendricspackest, amazing eh?08:00
gogetaapt-get dist-upgrade prety mutch updates any linux distro that uses apt08:00
spackestwhat a country!08:00
Hobbseespackest: you do need the sources dance08:00
aftertafspackest:  you can just change the word hoary in each line of sources to breezy ;)08:00
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell spackest about upgrade2breezy08:00
aftertafhi Hobbsee :)08:01
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ckruegercfuego_, ok, i booted into expert mode and couldn't find any binaries that i could use...  no fdisk/cfdisk, no grub, no lilo08:01
Hobbseehi aftertaf...this must be the time to go !start a desktop war again!08:01
gogetabreezy is 6.10 right08:01
Hobbsee:P08:01
gurubieWhy would my grub menu be black/blank when no graphic file is specified?08:01
Hobbseegogeta: no, 5.1008:01
gogetaoh08:01
ckruegercfuego_, i'm thinking i'm just going to set it up on one drive and configure RAID1 in software later, would this work?08:01
Trashcanlol08:01
ksmurfhas anyone complained about the screensaver locking and not accepting their password to unlock?08:01
Hendric6.10 might be the pink panther.. breezy is 5.1008:01
gurubieaftertaf, That sounds cool.08:02
aftertaf!start a desktop war08:02
ubotublackbox is much better than gnome!08:02
aftertaflike that?08:02
aftertaflol pink panther08:02
Hendriclol blackbox is as fast as console08:02
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gogetawhy is one makked 6.1008:03
aftertafgurubie:   grub-splashimages is the package.08:03
gogetaif your only in 5.1008:03
aftertafgogeta:  there isnt one yet 6.1008:03
ckruegercafuego_, ok, i booted into expert mode and couldn't find any binaries that i could use...  no fdisk/cfdisk, no grub, no lilo08:03
ckruegercafuego_, i'm thinking i'm just going to set it up on one drive and configure RAID1 in software later, would this work?08:03
Trashcanviisssssssttaaaa theeemmmmee :p08:03
gogetasome ftp musta misnamed it08:03
gogetaoh well08:04
ksmurfwhen my laptop blanks I have to restart X because my password is not accepted08:04
gogetadownloading dvd iso08:04
gogetaripping out fedora08:04
cafuego_ckrueger: No, you would need to ste up a single-disk raid1 now, then add a second raid partition to thats et later.08:04
gurubieaftertaf, That more than just pics?08:04
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aftertafgurubie:  compliant pics ;)08:05
aftertafafter you need to modify your grub conf08:05
samu2So is breezy coming out tomorrow?08:05
ckruegercafuego_, ok, then in that case, i'd like to figure out a way to get this thing booting...  the expert mode and command prompt off the CD seems completely useless08:05
Trashcansupposedly yes samu208:05
yapyccky_hello!08:06
Trashcanhi!08:06
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aftertafksmurf:  odd. disable 'need password when quitting screensaver'08:06
yapyccky_guys, i get always this error message: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: BIOS handoff failed08:06
yapyccky_what does it means?08:06
cafuego_ckrueger: You need to have access to the mdadm command. Then manually set up md0/md1 using mdadm.08:06
ckruegerok08:06
cafuego_ckrueger: Once that's done, you should be able to mount /dev/md0 and/or md1, then access the commands that were installed.08:06
spackestso, I guess I didn't really need to burn those 5.10 cds, huh? :)08:07
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Hendricwait!!! i got the preview release then update ALL possible updates... today i got 29 more.. tomorrow i dunno.. if i do all this upgrade...am i equal to the stable release????08:07
aftertafspackest:  yes you did, for your friends ;)08:07
gogetayou can use dist upgrade08:07
aftertafHendric:  yes08:07
cafuego_ckrueger: if it never got around to installing anything, just re-do the whole thing via the installer interface.08:07
spackestI plug for ubuntu08:07
yapyccky_can anyone help me?08:07
aftertafplug away :)08:07
spackestused to plug for debian08:07
Hendriccool.. forget the ISO... i better wait for shipit..08:07
aftertafask yapyccky_ ...... :)08:07
ckruegercafuego_, it did, but it's restricted to the files on the CD since i'm in the rescue environment08:07
cafuego_Ha. The ISO takes 1 hour. Shipit takes 2 months.08:07
yapyccky_aftertaf : i did :-) i said that i get everyday this error message during boottime : ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: BIOS handoff failed08:08
spackestthat server (don't install hardly anything) option sold me on my first install08:08
gogeta1hr what ftp you on08:08
cafuego_ckrueger: *nod* that's why you need to manually run mdadm, to set up the raid devices, so you can mount them.08:08
gogetai can get dvd iso in under a hr08:08
ckruegercafuego_, and there's no mdadm tool anywhere, in /sbin, /bin, /usr/sbin/, /usr/bin08:08
aftertafoki yapyccky_ got scrolled away... ;)08:08
erickIm installing gnome-desktop and its freeze on 99% what is this08:08
gurubieI put "splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/ubuntu_usplash_grub.xpm.gz" in the "menu.lst" but still get all black at grub menu time. What's going on?08:08
Hendriccafuego_, i got the preview.. then i updated all packages.. then i burned the /var/cache/apt/archive... hehehe08:08
aftertafyapyccky_:  its your usb2.0 controller. Do you have any hardware connected to usb2 at boot time?08:09
cafuego_ckrueger: perhaps not extracted yet, switch to Alt-F2 and make sure you cna access the 'Partition Disk' menu and see partitions there.08:09
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yapyccky_aftertaf : mouse08:09
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Hendricthe updates are breaking the SPCA5XX fix...08:09
ksmurfthat's better08:10
ckruegeri switched to the console and typed "find / | grep mdadm"08:10
ckruegerand couldn't find anything08:10
ksmurfit still asked for a passwork but it let me in this time08:10
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aftertafgurubie:  i dont know..... try a different splash srceen.08:10
jas_I need some help again08:10
aftertafsome didnt work for me, one did so i kept it ;)08:11
gurubieIs this a conflict with Nvidia drivers?08:11
cafuego_ckrueger: Did tyou progress the install to the point where the partitioner is started? if not, those commands won't be available yet.08:11
jas_Umm kinda08:11
yapyccky_aftertaf : can it depends on my mouse? strange, cause it works pefecly...08:11
jas_When I rebooted my pc08:11
ckruegerahh, i'm seeing how this works08:11
ckruegeri think i can figure out some stuff from here08:11
jas_Its all text like a different runlevel with other linux distros08:11
ckruegeri'm good with grub, suck with lilo08:12
aftertafyapyccky_:  yeah. werid. If all works ok, dont worry...... but maybe file a bug on bugzilla...08:12
aftertaf!bug08:12
ubotuTo file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages08:12
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ckruegerso as long as i can install grub i'm good08:12
Trashcanhmm08:12
Trashcanopera is neat08:12
Trashcanit's pretty with the gnome theme08:12
Hendricaftertaf, bout the synaptic error.. i was trying to address that 3 days ago..08:13
aftertafHendric:  which error??08:13
duncanmso eclipse works from the command line, but not from the gnome menu08:13
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sean13_Hey all08:14
Hendricaftertaf, "cannot run /usr/bin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status" on every exit of synaptic...08:14
erickhi sean08:14
jas_Can anyone help me get it back so its GUI again I don't know how to get it back08:14
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aftertafHendric:  you running with sudo? or in a root term?08:14
Hendricaftertaf, hope this is fixed on the final release... it happens on a fresh install08:14
aftertafor from menu...?08:14
auraxanyone knows when using samba, when browsing i cannot see my box in 'my network places'08:14
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Hendricaftertaf, normal user... clicked synaptic (menu) .. typed in the password... after quiting gets the error08:15
HackmoI justu updated my laptop system and now my nets broke08:15
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HackmoI went into the networking manager but it doesn't list ath008:15
aftertafHendric:  try sudo synatic in a terminal.....08:15
aftertaf+p08:15
Hackmoanyone got any idea?08:15
aftertafHackmo:  look in /etc/networking/interfaces... is there an eth0 declared?08:16
Hendricaftertaf, i did all that... it only happens when using the full path08:16
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aftertafodd as blue cheese Hendric .....08:16
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aftertaf(which is quite odd, must admit)08:16
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jas_Can anyone help me get Ubuntu fixed?08:16
Hendricaftertaf, i think i told you about this that its the USB thats causing it08:16
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esac_i upgraded from hoary to breezy. I used to be able to SSH over the internet, now I can't (i can ssh locally however). Any ideas ?08:17
yapyccky_thx aftertaf, thx for your help08:17
kvidell/s 408:17
kvideller..08:17
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_native_?08:18
auraxerick your still around ?08:18
Hackmoaftertaf, /etc/networking/interfaces doesn't exist08:18
aftertafHendric:  usb? even odder...08:18
_native_really?08:18
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yapyccky_i've another question for all chan08:18
aftertafHackmo:  odd too!08:18
yapyccky_im working on a asus laptop,3.2 ghz ht08:19
kvidellso drunk, hehe.. *takes a seat and stays quiet*08:19
Hendricaftertaf, tried it 15x now... install breezy with an unsupported USB device plugged in.. then you get that strange error...08:19
Hackmoaftertaf, it all worked fine up until a few minutes ago when I installed the latest updates08:19
yapyccky_i dunno why but ububtu, and linux in general, works more slowly than windows08:19
phiqtionhow can i get my wireless WAP connection working and not WEP08:19
jas_I am missing S13gdm How do I get it back?08:19
yapyccky_there are any tricks to make it faster?08:19
aftertafHackmo:  try this::    sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart08:19
Hendricaftertaf, i tried 3 unsupported USB devices while installing... gives out the same error... supported devices doesn't thou.08:20
aftertafyapyccky_:  have you installed the kernel for your processor type?08:20
gurubieI'm guessing I need to use the "legacy" nvidia-glx package.08:20
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aftertafHendric:  weird, you filed a bug?08:20
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aftertafgurubie:  depends on gfx card, what do u have?08:20
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Hackmoaftertaf, doen that but it did not help08:20
yapyccky_aftertaf : im working on i386 kernel, another "maybe " problem is that my swap is just 120mb (my ram is 512mb)08:20
Hendricaftertaf, haven't, maybe they won't believe it.08:20
jas_I am missing S13gdm How do I get it back?  Or do I have to re-install??08:20
eyequeueupdate-rc.d08:21
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aftertafHackmo:  strange that... i just updated and all is good. Is your eth0 static or dhcp?08:21
cafuego_jas_: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/gdm<TAB>'08:21
Hackmoaftertaf, there is a light on my wifi card that lights up every 5 seconds so the laptop must still see it08:21
Hackmoit's my ath0 and it's dhcp08:22
aftertafHackmo:  wifi?   ok.08:22
yapyccky_aftertaf may it be a problem?08:22
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aftertafyapyccky_:  better to have a bit more swap. and get the kernel package for your kernel....08:22
aftertafyapyccky_:  linux-k7 / 68608:22
phiqtionhow can i get my wireless WAP connection working and not WEP>08:22
yapyccky_aftertaf : i'll go in synaptic and try to install it08:22
Hackmoaftertaf, I just check on my hoary desktop and that doesn't have /etc/networking either ?08:23
aftertafHackmo:  cant help you with wifi, never ever set one up :/08:23
yapyccky_then i'll ask u how is possible to increase swap now with my distro up08:23
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aftertaf/etc/network ...........   my bad08:23
Christophe971hi. Is there a list of packages wich is preinstalled on the Breezy Distribution ? Or a list of package wich is present on the install cd ? (i'd prefer this)08:23
Hackmoaftertaf, ah ok thanks anyway08:23
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_native_im a wifi guy08:23
jas_It says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'08:23
aftertafHackmo:  cat /etc/network/interfaces08:24
damo21i know it involves iwconfig instead of ifconfig08:24
damo21:P08:24
_native_i suggest the book wi-foo. its very good.08:24
eyequeueChristophe971:  was there a file named manifest* on your mirror?08:24
yapyccky_aftertaf : why linux k7? if my laptop is P408:24
aftertafHendric:  they will. or at least theyll contact you for more info.08:24
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Christophe971eyequeue: i don't have mirror08:24
cafuego_jas_: did gdm... expand into an actual .deb filename when you pressed tab?08:24
aftertafyapyccky_:   linux-k7 / 686 ... in your case, 68608:24
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phiqtionCan i see any available wireless networks in range with Ubuntu?08:25
kwilliams0hey all...new to this.  Tried installing ubuntu 5.10 on my Toshiba Tecra laptop...it loads all right, and within 20 seconds shuts down.  Anyone here of this, or have ideas to troubleshoot?08:25
yapyccky_aftertaf : so, not linux-686-smp?08:25
eyequeueChristophe971:  let me find you a file then08:25
Hackmoaftertaf, interface is listed when I do an ls in /etc/network but it says it's not a directory08:25
Christophe971eyequeue: what are you searching for ?08:25
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Christophe971i just searching for a list08:25
Christophe971what package are avaible on breezy install cd08:25
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jas_no08:26
jas_It didn't cafuego08:26
aftertafyapyccky_:  smp is for multiprocessors. Do ou have 2 proc?08:26
No1VikingI have Breezy and am trying to view streaming videos in WMV or Realaudio. I have Mplayer and Realplayer installed, stil it does not work. Where can I find instructions?08:26
yapyccky_aftertaf : in xp i see 2 processors08:26
Trashcanif we're already running breezy, will we need to dist-upgrade tomorrow?08:26
cafuego_jas_: Ok. 'sudo apt-get install rcconf'; sudo rcconf. make sure gdm is on.08:26
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cafuego_aftertaf: probably HT.08:27
Hendricaftertaf, does video ram matter for increasing speed??  e.g. 64MB and 128MB.. does it help increase gnome speed??08:27
aftertafHackmo:  its a file......     open with cat, just to see....08:27
cafuego_yapyccky_: Due to bugs, hyperthreading is disabled on SMP kernels.08:27
Hackmoaftertaf, yeah sorry i'm being a bit slow tonight08:27
cafuego_Hendric: No.08:27
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aftertafyapyccky_:  follow cafuego_ on this, much more an expert on linux in general that me anyway ;)08:27
yapyccky_ok aftertaf :-D08:27
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Lickerwould whats the command to stop services?08:27
aftertafHackmo:  lol, me too.08:27
Hendriccafuego_, so i better increase RAM... and forget about the video card, right??08:27
Hackmoaftertaf, it has "auto ath0" at the end of the interfaces file08:28
cafuego_Licker: sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop08:28
yapyccky_so cafuego_ : -) what kernel should i install? sorry for such a questions...08:28
cafuego_Hendric: How much ram do you have?08:28
eyequeueChristophe971:  look at the appropriate list and manifest files for your platform near the bottom of http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/08:28
phiqtionCan i see any available wireless networks in range with Ubuntu?08:28
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HrdwrBobphiqtion: it's in the drop down box in the network config08:28
jas_When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf08:28
aftertafHackmo:  rubbish idea i know, but has a reboot helped at all?08:28
Hendric128MB + 256MB RAM on my server + 128MB video card08:28
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aftertaf128M video ram is more than enough.....08:29
cafuego_yapyccky_: If you insist of having HT (it's not really faster during normal use) you'll need to either wait until the bugs are resolved OR conpile yer own kernel.08:29
aftertafimho08:29
Hendricif the video ram doesn't matter then i better pull it out and use the onboard...08:29
cafuego_Hendric: 384Mb should be fine for Gnome.08:29
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Hackmoaftertaf, I tried a reboot but it didn't help08:29
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jas_When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf08:29
Christophe971eyequeue: oh yesss i've avoided that , thanks :)08:29
yapyccky_cafuego_ : i dont need it if u tell me its not so important. so its enought for me linux-i686, right?08:29
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aftertafkwilliams0:  try checking the md5 checksum of the iso, eventually burn another CD. could also be a hardware pb. Hard to tell...08:30
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Hendricwell ok... for 384MB i feel sad for my swap space.. coz it doesn't swap anymore08:30
aftertafHackmo:  does dmesg show you anything?08:30
Lickercafuego_: is there a commmand to stop ALL services?08:30
aftertafLicker:  shutdown -h now ?08:30
damo21i have 512MB08:30
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damo21+ 128MB video08:31
flonejekumm, I have a sapphire 9600 XT and it used to work with fglrx but after a breezy update I keep getting "Operation not permitted" from "sudo modprobe fglrx" and I've tried the official driver from atis site (make install) and that still gets the same error, is there something im missing?08:31
yapyccky_ok, i've installed...i'll reboot to check if it works good. thx alot for your patient :-)08:31
kwilliams0thanks aftertaf...I'll check the ISO now...Don't think it's hardware as I reformatted from Windows 2000 Pro (copied data to another machine) prior to installing.08:31
Lickerafter whats that command do?08:31
yapyccky_brb in few mins08:31
flonejek"sudo init 1" stops all services08:31
aftertafLicker:  it shuts dow your linux :)08:31
Lickerhaha08:31
aftertafwith init1 you need root pw, no?08:31
DrZeushi all.  Im trying to resize my HDD with partition magic for installing the ubuntu 5.10 preview.  Has anybody tried partition magic for making extra partitions?08:31
Hackmoaftertaf, nope dmesg shows nothing08:31
flonejekyah you do08:31
Christophe971ohhhh08:32
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aftertafHackmo:  hmm... you need to find someone who can help you... i am as much in the dark on wifi as you were when you started with it... sorry :/08:32
phiqtionHrdwrBob: what drop down box?08:32
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Christophe971don't tell me that gcc is already available  on the i386 breezy install cd ? :D08:33
nnonixDr: The ubuntu installer will let you resize an existing partition and create one for the install. No need to use partition magic08:33
Christophe971ofmg08:33
Hackmoaftertaf, thanks for trying08:33
flonejekDrZeus: yah it works, but its easier if you shrink your win partition and just use the partition manager to create ubuntus partitions automatically08:33
jas_When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf08:33
DrZeusnnonix-> i asked because I just have one partition with all the size used08:33
flonejeki think ubuntus part manager won't resize ntfs08:33
DrZeusand I cant split it or anything like that08:34
DrZeusdoesnt let me08:34
Slaj_Ri'm getting the "couldn't stat source package list file" error when starting synaptic.  I tried apt-get -f install, followed by apt-get update; but that doesn't work.08:34
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nnonixDrZeus: Yep, you'll have an option early in the Ubuntu installation to resize an existing partition (make it smaller) and install Ubuntu in the freespace.08:34
dell500I need to update 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4, but apt-get doesn't findi t08:34
DrZeusand Im kinda afraid of shrinking the partition because of losing my data08:34
DrZeuscan that happen?08:34
jas_cafuego_ any ideas?08:34
flonejekif theres a power out it can08:34
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nnonixDrZeus: ... meaning, the free space you create by making your existing partition smaller.08:35
yapycckyhere I am, with 686 kernel08:35
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DrZeusnnonix->doing that doesnt damage or do something to the actual data in the partition?08:35
flonejekif you can get your hands on hirens boot cd that has paragon partition manager which can resume shrinking after a power failure, but its harder to use than partition magic08:35
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jas_Should I just reinstall my system and reinstall the Nvidia drivers?  I don't have anything else on there I'm worried about08:36
nnonixDrZeus: Yes, it can happen ... with any application, including Partition magic. All I can tell you is that I've done it and it works very nice.08:36
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aftertafSlaj_R:  check your sources.list against ubotu's message08:36
DrZeuspics, music, etc?08:36
aftertaf!tell Slaj_R about repos08:36
Slaj_Rthanks08:36
nnonixDrZeus: If everything goes as it should, your existing partition will be made smaller and all your data will be intact.08:36
DrZeusok, so in the ubuntu installer there is an option for shrinking the partition08:37
flonejekDrZeus: resizing just moves all your data to the start of the partition and then truncates the free space at the end from it so you can create other partitions08:37
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flonejekDrZeus: yes, but I think it doesnt resize ntfs which is winXP's default08:38
cycomwhat the hell? why did VLC just turn into a macosx style interface that doesn't have any part that works?08:38
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cycomI upgrade, and it dies.08:38
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flonejekcycom: its the latest uild the wxvlc skin is broken08:38
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flonejekit happened to me too08:38
flonejekuse totem-xine for now08:38
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DrZeusflonejek: moving the data can affect it?08:38
thuxHi, wonder why gnome-terminal goes totally blue time-to-time when using remote irssi?08:38
No1VikingI have Breezy and am trying to view streaming videos in WMV or Realaudio. I have Mplayer and Realplayer installed, stil it does not work. Where can I find solutions?08:39
cycomflonejek: Gee, thanks. :)08:39
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flonejekDrZeus: nah it wont damage your data08:39
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MadpilotNo1Viking: have you used the Ubuntu wiki's RestrictedFormats info/08:40
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No1VikingMadpilot, no08:40
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flonejekNo1Viking: you can just use totem-xine08:40
aftertafthux:  BSOD emulator... hidden easter egg maybe? :)08:40
No1VikingMadpilot, will do that08:40
thuxaftertaf: could be :)08:41
woodwizzleanyone here running knoppmyth?08:41
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kwilliams0aftertaf...the MD5Sum checked out--it was a valid ISO.  Strange behavior--it just loads up and then decides to shut itself off.  I was able to check that the power setting read 87% prior to shutting down, but that's it.  Would you recommend I try the 5.04 version?08:41
DrZeusflonejek: i see.  Thnx08:41
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aftertafkwilliams0:  the 5.10 may not be 100% stable..... but maybe test on another PC, see if crash at same point?08:42
esac_anybody know a kde alternative to firestarter ?08:42
Madpilot!tell No1Viking about restricted08:42
thuxesac_: guarddog?08:42
jas_Can anyone help me?08:42
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flonejek!about restricted08:42
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ubotuflonejek: I give up, what is it?08:42
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Hobbsee!restricted08:42
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:42
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jas_I need some help I need some help getting my /ect/rd2.d/S13gdm file back08:43
flonejekubotu: what is what? ;P08:43
ubotuflonejek: what are you talking about?08:43
kwilliams0aftertaf--I have some coworkers who installed it fine...  The Toshiba Tecra 8100 was a little difficult even for windows 2000 (video driver), so while bummed, I'm not suprised.  I'll download the stable release and cross my fingers.08:43
jas_For some reason it is gone and I can't get it bakc08:43
jas_back^08:43
aftertafkwilliams0:  ok. keep us informed ;)08:43
flonejekubotu: was just playing with server commands08:43
ubotuflonejek: Do they come in packets of five?08:43
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aftertafflonejek:  type !bot08:44
Madpilot!tell flonejek about ubotu08:44
aftertaf;)08:44
flonejek!bot08:44
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to flonejek? I think not. Bot, got, chicken... rhyming sucks.08:44
flonejekoh lol08:44
flonejekoops08:44
Trashcanlol..08:44
flonejekhehe08:44
Trashcan!bot08:44
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to trashcan? I think not. Bot, plot, chicken... rhyming sucks.08:44
Trashcansilly :p08:44
Hobbseehehe08:45
Christophe971tsss :=08:45
Christophe971:)08:45
flonejekanyone else had problems with fglrx module not lodading?08:45
shreevatsaCan I get libavcodec2 from somewhere?08:45
orkoi need to replace aacraid.ko in the hoary install cd, whats the best way to do that? (the one shipped is buggy with my raid controller)08:45
Trashcanwhat's your favorite download manager08:46
Trashcan?08:46
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flonejekTrashcan: uh downloader4x is nice08:46
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Trashcanthanks08:46
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flonejekorko: maybe wait till breezy comes out tommorow and get that instead?08:48
fmasihow do i set my super video output to whork for my tb i have an ati radeom mobility X70008:48
adrian_i would like to know something, i want to use autocad but i dont like to use it on windows, i would like to use it on linux os, somebody can help me please? is it possible?08:49
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orkoflonejek: is there any way to find out what version of a particular driver will be in it? (aacraid)08:49
webdwarfadrian_; id be interested in that too...08:49
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Trashcanlol08:50
adrian_yes, there is a Qcad, but people say that its not as good as autocad, so i think i need to install windows in my another partition...08:50
Trashcandownloader 4x opens, makes a funny noise, and closes08:50
Trashcan:08:50
Trashcan:o08:50
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TrashcanSegmentation fault08:50
Trashcanlolol08:51
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damnhilDo people here speak Englsih?08:51
Trashcanyes..08:51
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damnhil How do I pronounce the name "Caroline"?08:51
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Trashcankare-oh-line08:51
flonejekTrashcan: sorry i cant help you there, im in Mac OS X atm08:51
Trashcan:p08:52
cafuego_damnhil: depends on the language08:52
Trashcanor if it helps08:52
Trashcankare-oh-l-eye-n08:52
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adrian_do you want to pronounce at spanish?08:52
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adrian_carolina08:52
damnhilTrashcan, I see, the last part of Caroline pronounces like air"line"08:52
Trashcanright08:52
fmasihow do i set my super video output to whork for my tb i have an ati radeom mobility X70008:52
izm99hey all, anybody be able to help me with nvidia problems?08:53
starscallingINTNET="192.168.1.0/24"  <<<--- what does that designate?08:53
orkoi might try the latest rc breezy. the last preview i tried kernel panic'd instnatly08:53
Trashcana range08:53
starscallingim running a linksys over here08:53
starscallinglets say its default gateway is 192.168.1.108:53
Trashcan192.168.1.0-192.168.1.24 i think (get a second opinion)08:53
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cafuego_starscalling: network address + mask. addresses 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.0.25508:53
starscallingo08:53
Trashcanok08:53
bimberistarscalling: that your network ranges from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.25508:54
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cafuego_starscalling: /24 is an alternative way of writing 255.255.255.008:54
Trashcanwhy is it 24?08:54
cafuego_Trashcan: 32bit, first 24 are 1, last 8 are 0. = 255.255.255.008:54
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bimberieach number represents 8 bits - so 24 covers the first 3 numbers08:54
Trashcangotcha08:54
izm99when I set the driver to "nvidia", the monitor changes mode when starting gdm, but nothing EVER shows up and I have to hard reboot.  any ideas?08:54
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Trashcanright08:55
cafuego_Trashcan: apt-get install 'ipcalc' for hours of fun.08:55
Trashcanlol08:55
flonejekizm99: probably because youre loading glx?08:55
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izm99flonejek, yes, that's in my modules.  I just followed the directions on the wiki...  I'll comment it out and see what happens.08:56
starscallingso i would use say eth0 instead of ppp0 b/c i dont use that modem/dsl thing?08:57
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flonejekizm99: i could be wrong its been a while08:57
flonejekstarscalling: ya08:57
izm99flonejek, I don't think that did anything. :(08:57
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flonejekizm99: actually use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:58
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izm99flonejek, ok, I'll try that... once it's done checking the filesystem...08:59
starscallingcrap08:59
starscallingi couldnt find a good config example of porting for firehol !_!08:59
flonejekizm99: and see if it gets the right modules, i just checked, you should load glx and dri but not Glcore for 3d acceleration08:59
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syli725hi, some questoins about apt-get. I am new to apt-get. I used yum before. 1, where do I download the latest repository? does apt need it? source.list is the repository?  2. i saw apt-cache search and apt-file search , which one is going to search my local files and which one is going to search online repository? if i want to know what packages available online.09:00
starscallingim in the middle of this sh-3.00# thing09:00
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izm99flonejek, so only comment out glcore?09:00
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starscallinghow do i clear out what im doing and not i repeat NOT save changes?09:00
starscallingill find something to deal with this tomorrow or osmething !_!09:00
shreevatsaWhat's the address of the marillat repository? I mean, which one should I use; I'm on Hoary09:00
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arkaishi09:00
flonejekizm99: yeah, but thats not your problem I think youve probably got the res wrong, the dpkg-reconfigure autodetects it which might fix it09:01
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OrbordeQuestion: I have an AMD64 processor, but I used the i386 Ubuntu so I'd have a fun 32-bit OS, since 64-bit is kind of malsupported. SO. Should I switch my kernel from the default i386 to something else, such as the i686 or K7 ?09:02
flonejeksyli725: sources.list is the list of repositories apt checks, apt-cache searches your files, apt-file i have no idea, I don't thjink you can search online repositories09:02
flonejekOrborde K7 should work09:02
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Orbordeflonejek: Would something else be a better choice, perhaps?09:03
arkaissomeone can recommend me a virtual machine for install on windows,09:03
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Cavallohi09:03
Cavallohow I can install deb package if I have it on disk ?09:03
arkaisi needed becouse , i want install linux without unistall windows09:03
Cavalloapt-get ?09:03
arkaisjeje09:03
cafuego_Cavallosudo dpkg-i foo.deb09:03
flonejekOrborde k8 if its there, k is the amd line of procs09:03
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flonejekCavallo use dpkg -i09:03
flonejek"sudo dpkg -i <pathname to package>09:04
flonejek"09:04
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syli725flonejek, thanks for reply. but how can I search a file that I haven't installed. for example, I know there is a program called something like "blah", but the actual package name is "blahte".  if i run apt-get blah, it won't find the package, and tell me there is no package called "blah"09:04
Orbordeflonejek: Is K8 the 640bit?09:04
flonejekarkais: try qemu09:04
Orbordeflonejek: 640bit...wow, that'd be powerful.09:04
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flonejeklol no i think its 64 bit its in the poackage description09:05
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LickerE: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  <--anyone know what that means?09:05
Orbordeflonejek: I should probably nab the K7 then, right?09:05
flonejeksyli: apt-cache search blah will list all matches in the name and theres a few more commandline tags for searching descriptions, it searches stuff you haven't got installed, the list of packages available.09:05
flonejekorborde: ya09:06
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MilesHi all, i'm installing some server software that requires MySQL4.0.26 and doesn't support the latest MySQL - using apt-get will grab the latest version from the repository i presume. Is there a way for me to specify that it must pull a specific version or shud i just download MySQL from the official website?09:06
DShepher11 day left for breezy. you guys think we going to make it in timehe release09:06
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DShepher11 day left for breezy. you guys think we going to make it in time for the  release09:06
OrbordeDShepher1: Who cares? I have broadband. Update things willy-nilly for all I care.09:06
flonejekMiles: you can use force package version in synaptic09:06
syli725flonejek, can you just teach me a little bit more about apt-get? because for yum. i just do yum search packagename.  I have no idea what apt-get is going to do.  ok. apt-cache search the list. but that is on my local machine. right? what happened the repository just added the new package that is i want to install.09:06
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OrbordeIs it just me, or is Breezy's GNOME major faster?09:07
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Cavallowhere I can find on internet package list and some tutorials how to create package for ubuntu ?09:07
Grinakgnome is faster for sure09:08
OrbordeGrinak: Rockin'09:08
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snausageskde runs faster on my ibook09:08
Milesflonejek > oh? thats great. ty09:08
izm99flonejek, for entering the BusID, if it's an AGP card, do I enter AGP:0:01:00.0 ?  lspci returns 0000:01:00.009:08
erickGuys help need help, Just finish installing the gnome-desktop, after that I start the gui and then it freeze, vertical colored line instead of the graphics09:08
BurgundaviaCavallo, join #ubuntu-motu and ask taht question09:09
MilesVideo card spec Erick?09:09
flonejeksyli725: "apt-get update" will update your cache with the package list from the server, then "apt-cache search <package>" will find similar stuff to that name, and "apt-get install <package>" will install it, apt-cache just reads the repository database you sync with the servers, apt-get manages the packages for installing and whatnot09:09
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flonejekizm99: I dunno, did it detect anything in dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:10
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ernstpshould eclipse really depend om mozilla-browser?09:10
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izm99flonejek, no.  there's no default value.09:11
flonejekernstp: yeah, it renders using the mozilla gecko engine09:11
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flonejekizm99: try the lspci value, i dont thing you need AGP there09:11
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izm99flonejek, ok09:11
MilesWhats the lowest spec machine u guys hav got a full Ubuntu running on? I've managed a 133mhz P1 with 32mb ram.09:11
Grinakthat reminds me I have to find a good distro for putting on my spare ibook09:11
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syli725flonejek, thank you very much. just a few more questions. 1, where is .deb packages going to be? download to where? 2, can I just download without installing? 3, how to install or update ubuntu package if i download a package alone. in rpm, i just do rpm -Uvh. 4, are you saying that if the online repository has a new package called "blah", i didn't run apt-get update first. so if i do, apt-get install blah. It will tell me "error no s09:12
syli725uch package". right?09:12
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flonejekGrinak: ubuntu works pretty damn well on ppc09:12
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lemics_only for the stupid therm_adt746x module09:12
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erickMiles I don't know Im using HPBrio p3 933mhz built-in video09:13
Milesand it only freezes when the GUI loads eh?09:13
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erickyap Miles once I issue the cmd start x its freeze and decide to reboot09:14
flonejeksyli725:1. i think in /var/apt or something, 2. yes, use the tag --download-only, 3. use dpkg -i <package> and you can convert rpms to debs with "alien <rpmpackage.rpm> and it will output in the dir your in <rpmpackage.deb> 4. yep thats right09:14
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gurubieI guess this ubuntu thing will do. :) Now K7 works (load it with the meta package,) Grub gui works, usplash works, "Legacy" Nvidia works direct 3D. Who Hoo!09:15
erickafter that i got this error General_font failed and *t_kernel_font: failed and then it freeze after checking the battery state, it said scheduler system No such file or Directory09:15
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Milesi'd say it def. a driver compat problem for which i'm largely useless (i run linux as a server stuck in a cupboard and ssh to it)09:16
syli725flonejek, thank you very much. I am using fedora now. plan to install kubuntu tonight. btw, just one more question. how to update a package if i have .deb. i do dpkg -U ?09:16
ernstpflonejek, but things in breezy that use that engine get it from the firefox libs!09:16
gurubie..oh and less I forget 802.11 WiFi with the K7 set too.09:16
MilesEric > Hav u done a re-install?09:16
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erickno09:17
flonejekernstp: yeah true, epiphanys kinda old though09:17
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erickshould i reinstall it09:17
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flonejeksyli725: yeah dpkg -i will ask to upgrade if package exists, I think -U would do the same09:18
MilesEric > tough to say, i'm still kinda new to ubuntu, esp. in the driver/graphics side of things... anyone got any thoughts on this?09:18
GTroy_ http://tinypic.com/ei2sf6.jpg09:18
HendricMiles, im on a P1 200MHZ with 64MB... got a GUI.. xfce hehehehe.. faster than win9509:18
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GTroy_go there!!09:18
syli725flonejek, thank you very very much. see you. :)09:18
MilesGTroy> running v5.0409:18
flonejeksyli725: no probs09:18
GTroy_no, running 5.1009:18
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MilesGTroy> ah lucky u, i must pull down 5.10 tonight -looks awesome.09:19
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HendricAnyone here knows how to speed up Openoffice?? it loads like hell... abiword with similar features is lightning fast..09:19
GTroy_yeah it's nice09:19
MilesGTroy: i havent tried full on a P1 133 yet... perhaps i'll tru09:19
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cafuego_Hendric: Buy a faster machine.09:19
NoUseHendric OpenOffice2 has fixed some of those problems09:19
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erickMiles thanks09:20
MilesHendric: sys specs?09:20
MadpilotHendric: OO is just a big app...09:20
flonejekerick: umm sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through your graphics card setup09:20
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MilesEric> apologies i cant b of help.09:20
HendricNoUse, im on the most updated OO in breezy09:20
ahmadwhen i use apt-get to install packages like mysql or php4-gd i get the following error:The following packages have unmet dependencies09:20
Hendrici use abiword thou... faster than win  wordpad09:20
NoUseHendric what are your sys specs?09:20
nnonixHendric: 2 seconds for writer to open here09:20
flonejekahmad: try running "apt-get -f install"09:21
HendricP1 200MHZ with 64MB RAM EDO... 4GB HD...09:21
erickflonejek, I wish I can log on command line but its freeze on detecting the battery state09:21
NoUseHendric thats your problem09:21
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flonejekerick: type ctrl-alt-f1 then do it from tty109:21
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MilesHendric: well, the fact that it even runs shud make u feel happy/.09:21
ahmadsame thing09:21
Hendriclolx.. why can't they make it as fast as abiword... if they have the same features to offer...09:21
nnonixHendric: Ouch!09:22
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lorenzodHendric, why not just use Abiword then?09:22
NoUseHendric abiword is a word processor, OO is a fulll suite09:22
MilesHendric: Cos OO is like a hundred times bigger and more mem intensiv than Abi09:22
Hendricexcept for abi which doesn't have a more detailed printing options...like black only. color draft etc...09:22
flonejekahmad: sounds like your repos are conflicting, um try "apt-get update" then "apt-get -f install"09:22
erickflonejek Im not sure it will works becasue after ubuntu check for the battery it freeze09:22
lorenzodAbiword is superior in almost every way..09:22
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nnonixHendric: If Abiword was MS Office compatible it wouldn't be so fast.09:22
cafuego_Hendric: Honestly, why did you even TRY OOo on that?09:22
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erickcan abiword support msoffice09:22
flonejekerick: i meant from the frozen gnome09:22
cafuego_Hendric: machines with less than 256MB of ram need not apply.09:22
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aftertafParisi:  ctcp ping?09:23
lorenzoderick, it does09:23
jsgotangcoabiword can open *.doc09:23
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flonejekerick: ctrl-alt-f1 should switch you out of xserver09:23
Miles*Kicks stupid P1*09:23
ahmadi did apt-get update09:23
cafuego_Does abiword open .odt?09:23
Hendricif they're is an abiword plugin which will enable full printing options.. i will forget about OpenOffice.. and one more thing.. Abiword is MSoffice compatible too...09:23
ahmadnot solved09:23
Miles*goes to find an old celeron box*09:23
Trashcanooh09:23
lorenzodcafuego_ it should do with 2.4, but haven't tried it yet.09:24
aftertafplug n panic09:24
cafuego_Hendric: Word != Office.09:24
nnonixHendric: there's more to MSoffice compatibility than being able to open the file.09:24
flonejekhendric: you can choose full printing options from your printer properties pane09:24
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ahmadi get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies:09:24
ahmad  php4-gd: Depends: libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.33) but it is not installable09:24
Hendricflonejek, cannot set color options etc.. like OO offers...09:24
cafuego_OOo is a full suite, with app scripting and macro support etc. Not just a word processor like abiword is. Don't compare apples with pears.09:24
flonejekahmad: its tricky but each time it says that you gotta try instaling that package i.e. apt-get install libgd2-xpm would be your first step09:25
ssh_rdphey , is there any way to add custom frequencies to scaling_available_frequencies ?09:25
cafuego_Mind you, OOwriter 2still takes a whole three seconds to start <heh>09:25
flonejekuntil you get to the blocking package09:25
Hendrici don't need to fully comply with MS standards. and i just type documents.. nothing special09:25
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CaiN_SAomw09:26
erickflonejek what do you think should I reinstall it and use the default or reinstall and stick with the server mode09:26
CaiN_SAi have nx822009:26
Hendric:) abiword more printing options... anyone?09:26
cafuego_Hendric: The abiword or koffice or even vim is fine.09:26
CaiN_SAubuntu installer on hoary doesnt run09:26
CaiN_SAwhen it runs screen goes blank09:26
johnsie2Is there a way to update all my packages without using  the gui?09:26
CaiN_SAany ideas ?09:26
cafuego_johnsie2: yep, sudo aptitude09:26
flonejekerick: a straight reinstall should be fine, have you got ubuntu-desktop installed?09:26
johnsie2thanks09:27
Razor-Xcafuego_: I have to say, after using a minimalistic WM, things like OO become bearable09:27
flonejekjohnsie2 or "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade"09:27
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flonejekjohnsie2 or "sudo apt-get update && sudo dist-upgrade" i mena09:27
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erickyes before actually im using it on my pc09:28
ssh_rdpin windows i can lower the cpu frequency downto 100mhz09:28
ssh_rdpbut there is a 600mhz lower limit in ubuntu09:28
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cafuego_ssh_rdp: In windows, do you use proprietary vendor software to do so?09:28
HrdwrBobI think you will find that it may not really go to 100mhz09:28
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ssh_rdpyes09:29
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flonejeki must go to uni now, later09:29
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cafuego_ssh_rdp: Then I think the software is probably lying. 99.9% sure HrdwrBob is right. Modern cpus don't scale down that far.09:29
ssh_rdpit is in 140mhz in normal usage playing mp3s and screensaver09:29
cafuego_ssh_rdp: What cpu do you have?09:29
jas_Can someone help me?09:29
ssh_rdpcentrino 1.709:30
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jas_cafuego good your still here09:30
cafuego_ssh_rdp: You canc ehck thich speeds that scales to on the intel website. I bet it won't say 100 or 140 MHz09:30
ssh_rdpok09:30
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jas_I rewrote the whole file S13gdm09:31
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jas_From the copy I have here on my laptop09:31
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jas_And it still won't load it back into GUI09:31
HendricGyach-E on ubuntu made my system perfect.. with SPCA5xx fix.. webcam and voice chat worked like a charm... :)09:31
cafuego_ssh_rdp: More likely the windows software scales to 600 MHz, then notices only 15% cpu load and rounds that to 140 MHz.09:31
delmonicohow can I view A/CNAME records of a domain in the console? i forgot the command :/09:31
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cafuego_delmonico: dig?09:31
ssh_rdpno:D09:32
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jas_cafuego you were helping me earlier09:32
ssh_rdpi am just checking the centrino specs09:32
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jas_My internet went out09:32
cafuego_jas_: Just symlink S13gdm to ../gdm09:32
cafuego_jas_: Don't put an ACTUAL file there09:33
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Syrussanyone care to help me whttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74299&highlight=shfs+unstable ?ith this:09:33
Hendriccafuego_, will the spca5xx driver be fixed on tomorrow's release??09:33
jas_Can you tell me full command I am a bit new to Linux09:33
Syrusswith this i mean:09:33
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Syrusshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74299&highlight=shfs+unstable09:33
Syruss:)09:33
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Lickerhas anyone tried installing CGI:IRC?09:33
cafuego_Syruss: Don't use shfs; it makes the kernel crash.09:33
Syrussyes09:33
JedrickHow to play .dat file on vlc?09:33
delmonicocafuego_: yeah thanks09:33
Syrusscafuego_: that's not really a solution is it? :)09:33
cafuego_Syruss: Contact the authors, tell them their software is buggy?09:34
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Syrusscafuego_: it's not though09:34
C-Keenmoin.09:34
SyrussI've used it for years on redhat and gentoo09:34
Syrussflawlessly09:34
cafuego_Syruss: it is. It reliably crashes the kernel here as well.09:34
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Syrussheh09:34
cafuego_Syruss: ... and it won't unmount.09:34
Syrussyer, I have the same problems09:34
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jas_Can you tell me full command I am a bit new to Linux09:35
Syrusshopefully it'll be ironed out by the first release09:35
jas_cafuego09:35
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Syrusscafuego_: try loading a file in emacs over a gnome-vfs mount09:35
Syruss:/09:35
cafuego_Syruss: Your mistake there is this "emacs" thing ;-)09:35
Syrussrofl09:35
Syrussor vim then, heh09:35
Hendricjas_, open a terminal and press tab repeatedly.. then answer Yes09:35
jas_I can't open a terminal09:36
cafuego_Syruss: If I have ssh access, i just run vim remotely.09:36
Syrussand if you say to me nano/gedit, this conversation is over09:36
Razor-Xcafuego_: there is an emacs, only, certain people went blind from ``Vi fever'' :P09:36
C-KeenSyruss: why don't you use emacs' build in capability to open files via ssh?09:36
SyrussC-Keen: shfs is really much easier that messing around on a per-application basis09:36
Cavallodoes ATI dirvers for 7000 series card exists?09:36
cafuego_Syruss: I'd keep wella way from shfs until that's fixed, though.09:36
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C-Keenwhat is this shfs anyway09:37
Syrussyer, or until someone figures out something09:37
Syruss:p09:37
cafuego_Cavallo: the open 'ati' driver fully supports that (or should,a nyway)09:37
Hendricjas_, then ctrl+alt+f1... login then do the tab thing...09:37
Syrussshfs is cool09:37
Syruss:)09:37
Syrusslook it up on google.09:37
Cavallocafuego_: where I can get it ?09:37
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Syrussit's similar to 'connect to server' thing in gnome09:37
auraxsamba is kewl09:37
auraxhehe09:37
cafuego_Cavallo: it's on the xorg-driver-ati package.09:37
auraxwhat will happend if ill broadcast on my external ethernet subnet ?09:37
auraxhehe09:37
Razor-XSyruss: so it's using an SSH connected drive as an FS?09:37
auraxdamn i got like 300 boxes widely opend09:38
Hendriccafuego_, will the spca5xx driver be fixed on tomorrow's release??09:38
auraxyummy!09:38
Syrussyer Razor-X09:38
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cafuego_C-Keen: shfs is a userspace fs that mounts remote dirs via ssh. Nice in theory, buggy as hell in practice.09:38
Syrussbut it's unstable in badger09:38
C-Keenshfs does not seem like a good solution to the problem09:38
cafuego_Hendric: Maybe.09:38
Razor-XSyruss: why not just manage the file using SFTP?09:38
C-KeenI'd rather use sfs for this purpose.09:38
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Razor-Xor SCP, whatever floats your boat09:38
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JedrickHow to play .dat file movie? coz it wont play on any of my movie player like totem mplayer and vlc09:39
cafuego_Razor-X: well, shfs is transparent when it works.09:39
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Crys_Ubu_PCHey all.09:39
izm99flonejek, I tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it did not work.  same problem.09:39
Razor-Xcafuego_: yeah, but in this case, it doesen't :P09:39
cafuego_Razor-X: yah09:39
Crys_Ubu_PCTell Crys_Ubu_PC about bootloader09:39
Hendricizm99, wats your problem?09:39
Crys_Ubu_PCYeah, didn't think so.09:39
No1VikingWhatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy.09:39
C-KeenJedrick: a .dat file could be everything. If you have reason to think it is taken from a vcd try a vcd player09:39
cafuego_Crys_Ubu_PC: /msg ubotu help09:39
BLUE_ICEHendric, what is the compatible model of LX300? LX1050?09:39
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RippinEmDaily21whatup09:40
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izm99Hendric, when I enable "nvidia" driver, computure freezes when starting x (gdm)09:40
cafuego_a .DAT from VCD is just an mpeg. Name it to .mpg and off you go.09:40
HendricBLUE_ICE, not sure.. but a trial and error wouldn't be harsh09:40
xuniluserwhat should i download to view video cds09:40
BLUE_ICEhmmmmmmmmm09:40
JedrickC-Keen: how can i play it on my computer?09:40
Hendricizm99, nvidia-glx? or the nv driver of xserver?? what's your Vcard???09:40
BLUE_ICEi got really have troubles in sharing printer to a network09:40
No1VikingWhatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy. I want to look at streaming Windows Media Video but I have no luck. HELP!!09:40
LickerQuestion: How do I change a folders access level?09:41
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ricardosomeone can recommend me a virtual machine?09:41
C-KeenJedrick: use mplayer / totem / whatever.... maybe rename it as cafuego_ said09:41
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izm99Hendric, I followed directions on wiki to apt-get install nvidia-glx.  my card is nvidia ti 4200 128MB agp09:41
HendricNo1Viking, add the restricted repo.. then apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer09:41
SyrussRazor-X: shfs is totally different, it means I can have a whole server's FS at /mnt/someserver , which makes everything on it available locally to everything....very useful, for example, I can open up an mp3/video file directly from the server etc09:41
cafuego_Rename it, double-click it, hey presto.09:42
SyrussI've used it a lot, trust me, it's the best thing ever :)09:42
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Hendricizm99, did you 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'??09:42
dayzzcafuego: I can't copy .dat from vcd, why?09:42
auraxanyone here tried open-xchange?09:42
Ex-Cyberhow can I limit the rate at which synaptic or apt-get downloads packages?09:42
Cavallocafuego_: how I should know if Im using correct ATI drivers ?09:42
ssh_rdpyes the supported minimum frequency for centrino is 600mhz09:42
cafuego_Syruss: Well actually, if it mapped UIDs properly it would be nice. Until such time it's more of a gimmick.09:42
izm99Hendric, that just changes the driver to "nvidia" doesn't it?  I've done it before, but I'll do it again.09:43
cafuego_Cavallo: grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:43
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cafuego_ssh_rdp: Ok, so the windows software just lies :-)09:43
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cafuego_dayzz: incompetence?09:43
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jas_I'm in text only no gui I can't get to a terminal..09:43
jas_Sorry I'm such a pain in the butt I just don't wanna reinstall09:43
Hendricizm99, it'll use the nvidia official driver.. rather than the xserver nv09:43
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jas_bah sorry09:44
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jas_cafuego if you said the command could you give it to me again?09:44
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Syrusscafuego_: yeah but you can specify a uid/gid which is good enough as I generally only want to access the shfs mount as a specific user/group09:44
jas_I lost connection to the internet again09:44
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z4k4ri4Where can I get w32codecs? In which repository09:44
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Hendricizm99, normally you will know if it worked when you see the NVIDIA logo on startup09:44
Madpilot!tell z4k4ri4 about w32codecs09:44
Syrussfood for thought anyway09:44
jas_cafuego if you said the command could you give it to me again?09:44
izm99well, it freezes on startup... nothing gets displayed.  ^^09:44
RippinEmDaily21sorry09:44
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Syrussthere's actually a very small project out there that links the gnome-vfs stuff into the real fs, although it doesn't look 'proper' enough to use :p09:45
RippinEmDaily21is there any girls on this chat09:45
RippinEmDaily21or what is this09:45
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Hendricjas_, maybe your card isn't compatible with the nvidia-glx driver... like my old Pine Nvidia TNT2... can't even run with xserver NV driver.. bug i guess09:46
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jas_umm it has nothing to do with the driver..09:46
basvg'lo all... what would be the recommended way of switching from hoary to breezy... editting /etc/apt/sources.list and doing a apt-get distupgrade, or download the CD And do a fresh install ?09:46
jas_Its because my S13gdm got deleted.09:46
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JedrickC-Keen: i can't rename it coz it's on a cd.. not save on my computer09:47
Hendricoopss wrong person jas_09:47
Hendricizm99, , maybe your card isn't compatible with the nvidia-glx driver... like my old Pine Nvidia TNT2... can't even run with xserver NV driver.. bug i guess09:47
jas_K was gonna say09:47
C-KeenJedrick: well then use a vcd player like totem or kaffeine09:47
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Jedrickok09:47
nnonixbasvg: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes09:47
izm99Hendric, so would i have to get binary from nvidia?09:47
basvgnnonix: thanks! <hmm, should've looked there in the first place>09:48
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aftertafizm99:  try the nvidia legacy package09:48
nnonixbasvg: np, have fun.09:48
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eckharthi09:48
Hendricizm99, try the legacy package or read release notes... it fully supports your card09:48
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Hendricizm99, as i told you.. there are supported chips that doesn't work at all. like the ones from Pine..09:49
eckharthow can i recreate an xorg.conf file the same way it is done at ubuntu installation?09:49
Hendricso i have to use VESA from xserver to make it run09:49
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basvgnnonix: I Was just worried (I just checked the list of pacakages to be upgraded) by the amount of *new* packages that will be installed... Was a bit afraid that I'd end up with, for example, both OO and OO209:50
Crys_Ubu_PCIs there an easy way to make ubuntu auto add my other installation of linux?09:50
jas_Hey09:50
jas_Hendric I figured it out!09:50
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Crys_Ubu_PCto grub I mean.09:50
jas_All I had to type was... REady for this!??09:50
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melvztechiehello guys, do we have a driver for Epson LX-300 printer? or any other recommended driver for this printer09:50
jas_startx09:50
Hendricwat?09:50
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Hendriclolx09:50
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jas_Yeah..09:50
Crys_Ubu_PCjas_ Nice.09:50
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izm99Hendric, aftertaf, thanks.  I'll look into the legacy package.09:51
jas_I don't know if it will reload the file09:51
nnonixbasvg: no, it should upgrade 00 to 00209:51
Hendricyou didn't mention you wanna start a GUI09:51
auraxanyone using some kind of gorupware?09:51
jas_Yeah I did.09:51
jas_All the way in the begining..09:51
jas_:P09:51
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Hendriclolx.. i thought you were trying to list all the commands09:51
basvgnnonix: I'll just give it a shot. Thanks for the help09:51
syndJust installed Ubuntu Breezy. What repos should I add?09:51
jas_No...09:51
Hendricanyways.. lucky u09:51
jas_I accidently deleted S13gdm and I couldn't get it get back to GUI09:51
loogai tried xkill on a program but it won't die. how can i terminate it via cli?09:52
nnonixbasvg: Just make sure you don't stop at dist-upgrade. Follow the entire article and do the ubuntu-base stuff as well.09:52
jas_Some stupid site said you could and when you rebooted it would come back....09:52
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Crys_Ubu_PCIs there an easy way to make ubuntu auto add my other installation of linux?09:53
basvgnnonix: *nods* I will. It's good to see a new sources.list (rather than s/hoary/breezy/g )09:53
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JedrickHow can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows09:53
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xuniluserwhat should i download so totem player can view VCDs09:53
aftertafJedrick:  make sure you have the codes installe, and nautilus should previewx them for you09:54
Jedrickhow will i know if i have the codes install and the nautilus?09:54
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dayzzanyone know how to make repository on cd?09:55
C-Keenxuniluser: nothing. it does so by default if you chose open dVD/cd?09:55
Hendricoddly.. in the linuxworldmagazine's website.. there is a big AD about how better windows system servers are, than linux...09:55
padmawanxuniluser: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer09:55
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johnsie2is it ok to have programs running when you run apt-get update?09:56
OrbordeSo I set up Breezy, and things work, for the most part. But I still get the double-clock-speed/50% CPU at idle problem.09:56
El_Chejohnsie2: yes09:56
johnsie2good :-)09:56
OrbordeAny idea how to fix them?09:56
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HendricOrborde, why not try 686 kernel if you are on intel09:57
OrbordeI switched from the AMD64 kernel to the i386 one to go 32-bit when I upgraded from Hoary.09:57
Hendricah AMD..09:57
OrbordeHendric: I'm on AMD6409:57
DjKriticalI honestly thought I'd never see the day I'd be playing games like GTA3 and CS:Source in Linux... Ubuntu rawks :D09:57
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jhankhi guys - just wondering if there is a time plan, when breezy is released?09:57
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OrbordeHendric: I then flipped on over to the K7 kernel, because it seemed more in line with my system.09:58
DjKriticaljhank, breezy is already out!09:58
jhankaaaaah thanks09:58
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HendricOrborde, it think 386 would be better..09:58
JedrickHow can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows09:58
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DjKriticalJedrick, Media Player plugin for FireFox09:58
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johnsie2u played GTA3 on linux?09:58
johnsie2how?09:58
JedrickDjKritical: where can i get that?09:58
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DjKriticaljohnsie: cedega!09:58
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jhankjust RC isnt it?09:59
OrbordeThe no_timer_check thing doesn't appear to work. noapic/nolapic kills the 50%/double-clock problem, but it renders eth0 nonfunctional.09:59
HendricOrborde,  haven't you tried the kernel for 64's??? its a different ISO09:59
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loogawhere's the conventional/usual place to put a folder containing a program we got from the internet?09:59
DjKriticaljohnsie2, it costs money... but if you want a free version (like me) go get cvscedega09:59
johnsie2i already have wine... how did you install cedgea?09:59
erickdoes ubuntu support mp3 converter that can be used on cellphones09:59
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loogai don't want to clutter home/looga directory09:59
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jhanki mean the final release10:00
OrbordeHendric: I tried the AMD64 distro, but realized that nothing is actually compiled for 64-bit yet, such as Flash and things. And since I'm not running anything computationally intensive, I switched to 32-bit.10:00
Hendrici got cedega from a friend... + point2play10:00
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johnsie2how did you get cvscedgea? is it in the repositiory?10:00
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padmawanjhank: breezy official release is oct 13th10:00
DjKriticaljohnsie2: download the cvscedega script, then run through it10:01
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jhanki know, i asked if there is a time set...10:01
aftertaf!ops10:01
uboturumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth10:01
melvztechiewere can we get the script? of cvscedega10:01
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Orbordejhank: Just download the RC now and update as it comes.10:01
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grigoradoes anyone have experience install OO2 on Hoary? Should I (not) upgrade it? I need Math and it's only available in OO2. thanks for any info!10:01
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loogawhen you guys get a program from the Net, where do you put the folder?10:01
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taliospadmawan, should do an October fools - release it on the 12th as Apple Unbuntu/X - Apples "one more thing" ;p10:02
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grigoralooga: if it's source code, usually /usr/local/src10:02
taliosget rid of BSD under OS/X ;p10:02
Orbordegrigora: Can you wait until a shiny Breezy upgrade? Or you could just upgrade to Breezy now, I *think*.10:02
jas_Hey10:02
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delmonicohmmm I can't ping localhost/127.0.0.1, but I can ping my IP what could be the trouble here?10:02
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DjKriticallooda: that question makes no sense.... you should follow the install instructions10:02
jas_Can I get the command to get the nvidia drivers to work on here again.10:02
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kab00mhola10:02
grigoraOrborde: I'd rather not do a whole distribution update tonight10:02
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DjKriticallooda: you should also avoid downloading programs and use Synaptic10:02
kab00mhow can i override the path settings which are set in the gdm.conf locally? with that i mean as regular user?10:02
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jas_cafuego you gave it to me earlier what was it again?10:03
DjKriticaljas_, I think nvidia-glx-config enable10:03
jas_Sorry to be such a pain10:03
Orbordegrigora: You might be able to get it from the Breezy repos, then.10:03
Hendriclooga, easy... /home/hendric -> installers, documents, videos, pictures, music, unpacked10:03
grigoraOrborde: can I just upgrade OO or is it a pretty big can of worms in itself?10:03
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Orbordegrigora: It's there; the question is whether you can get it to work.10:03
loogagrigora: what if it's NOT source code, where do you put the program?10:03
Crys_Ubu_PC/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda  will run the grub installation from linux, causing it to check my drives for usable OS installations, right>10:03
Crys_Ubu_PC?10:03
grigoralooga: what is it? binary?10:03
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Orbordegrigora: Get the Breezy repositories into Synaptic and install/upgrade to OO2.10:03
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jas_Okay then how do I restart x?10:04
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DjKriticaljas_, ctrl + alt + backspace10:04
Orbordejas_: Control+Alt+Backspace, I think?10:04
Hendricjas_, ctrl+alt+backspace10:04
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grigoraOrborde: I can get it from Universe, I am just not sure if it'll work painlessly10:04
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Crys_Ubu_PCctrl+alt+backspace.10:04
DjKriticalEveryone jumps on the easy question =)10:04
Crys_Ubu_PCI'm a little slow I guess.10:04
johnsie2should I expect a tonne of updates tomorrow or has this been phased?10:04
Orbordegrigora: Only way to find out is to try it, I guess.10:04
Hendricwow too helpful10:04
loogaDjKritical: i got a tar.gz file that decompresses into a folder containing a self-contained java program. It can be placed anywhere.10:04
DjKriticalI was the fastest!10:04
AES_24_96I dont have a floppy and I cant boot off the ubuntu disk to install, I can boot fine off of a cd that I drop system disk files on10:04
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AES_24_96but that makes it dos10:04
loogagrigora: it's a java program10:04
Crys_Ubu_PCI don't know much but the easy stuff.10:04
atripathigoodafternoon everyone and wishing you all a very happy DurgaPuja10:04
HendricDjKritical, i'm on P1 so excuse me hehehe10:04
DjKriticallooga: if it's a self contained java program put it in your home directory10:04
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loogaDjKritical: is that what you'd do? I don't want to clutter my home directory. I could add a "shortcut" to my menu via menu-editor.10:05
jhanki know... but i just want download the final.... so is there a time set when the new cd image is to be released?10:05
jas_Thanks everyone that helped10:05
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jas_HOpefully I won't be back in asking anymore nooby question haha10:05
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grigoraOrborde: I guess, the reason I am a little worried is that it wants to upgrade glibc and gcc as well (dependencies) ... I think I should just pass and wait for a "shiny Breezy upgrade"10:05
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Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Did you say that you can boot from cd, just not the ubuntu cd?10:05
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jas_I guess everyone has to start somewhere10:05
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grigoralooga: you can put it in /usr/local/bin10:06
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AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC yes10:06
Orbordegrigora: That is what I'd recommend, if it can wait. Sorry.10:06
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starscallingnn irc world c ya another day [amsg] 10:06
DjKriticallooga, is it just a .jar file?... I'd keep it in my /home/user directory because it's nothing to do with linux....10:06
Crys_Ubu_PCThat's some wierd stuff, man. What kind of cpu?10:06
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AES_24_96p4 2.410:06
grigoraOrborde: no problem, thanks10:06
omerHello10:06
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AES_24_96on asus p4t-e10:06
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Crys_Ubu_PCNot too bad. You get a pre-built?10:07
Hendriclooga, wat exactly you want to do with the file?? is it an executable that you will be running every now and then??10:07
omerI want to install ubuntu on my lap-top. I have there win-9810:07
Skidwhat's the development channel for ubuntu?10:07
AES_24_96no10:07
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AES_24_96we have to build our own at my studio, or we get clicks and pops10:07
Trashcan#ubuntu-devel10:07
omerI want to do installation from th HD.10:07
Skidta10:07
atripathicd #ubuntu-devel10:07
johnsie2hi omer what do you need help with?10:07
Trashcanwhy does glxgears run fast and fine for about 5 seconds, then it drops to about 3fps10:07
Crys_Ubu_PCSo do ou have a windows install disk?10:07
atripathioops! sorry!10:07
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omerI know which files to use. I just don't know how to work with msdos.sys10:08
AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC yes, it boots off of that fine too10:08
AES_24_96Im going to try dual boot Im new to linnux10:08
loogaHendric: i want to put that folder in some place that is a default place for stuff like that. I won't have to dig for it, because I'll be adding the foo.sh file to menu-editor.10:08
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Are you sure you have a good install disk? Have you tried fixing it with bittorent?10:08
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loogaHendric: but i don't want to put stuff in my home folder that I won't be needing immediate access to.10:08
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AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC how do I fix it with biottorrent? and if I burn another one should I make it multisession?10:09
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loogai will be running the file every now and then, but  via the  menu, if i can add it with menu-edtior10:09
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Crys_Ubu_PCNo, I don't think they boot correctly if you burn multisession. Did you do that with the first one?10:09
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apokryphosaftertaf: good to note the reason, for the record, when !opsin' -- for other ops that may not know =)10:09
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AES_24_96I did iso with the first one10:10
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AES_24_96maybe nero is not good for this?10:10
Trashcan!opsin10:10
ubotuTrashcan: I don't know, could you explain it?10:10
Crys_Ubu_PCYou get the .torrent file, and open it. Then when your client asks you where to save it, save over the old iso. It should just fix it.10:11
Trashcanlol10:11
apokryphosTrashcan: investigate in /msg10:11
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Crys_Ubu_PCI use alchohol, but nero should work. I think linux is best, because there are no options to screw up.10:11
loogagrigora, put the entire folder into /usr/local/bin?10:12
topyliAES_24_96: nero should burn the image if you tell it to burn the image, don't do a "data cd". i don't know the specifics because i've never even seen nero. this is just what i've heard10:12
MadpilotCrys_Ubu_PC: have you seen this for ISO burning information? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto10:12
Crys_Ubu_PCYou should check the md5sum on your iso, and if it doesn't check out, then use the bittorent fix on a copy of it.10:12
AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC this is where I grabbed the file http://www.ubuntu.com/download 5.04 is that not a good one?10:13
HendricGnoSamba made my life easier with sharing.. not on the repos thou....10:14
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Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, I almost just asked you what arch you have, till I remembered you have a p4.10:14
Trashcanlol @ cat /bin/bash10:14
Trashcanit ruins the terminal10:15
AES_24_96where do I find this .torrent thing?10:15
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Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent10:15
HendricTrashcan, better file a bug report... lolx10:15
Trashcan:p10:15
signiusYou just choose burn image then point it to the iso image then click burn10:15
signiussimple10:15
No1VikingWhatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy. I want to look at streaming Windows Media Video but I have no luck. HELP!!10:15
Crys_Ubu_PCThat is the link to the torrent. Use your torrent client to open it, and save over a copy of the iso.10:16
OrbordeAES_24_96: Do you know how to use BitTorrent?10:16
HendricNo1Viking, i told you to add the restricted repos.. apt-get mplayer and the mozilla plugin10:16
OrbordeNo1Viking: Have you done so?10:16
AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC ok maybe Im screwing something fundamental up, the download I got was a rar, I unzipped it into a directory (im on xp) and then dragged and dropped it into a nero iso10:16
dbuggstreamer is a gnome pack isn't ?10:16
Crys_Ubu_PCA rar?10:17
AES_24_96not too good on bitorrent10:17
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AES_24_96yeah a rar10:17
No1VikingHendric, Orborde, Ive done that10:17
OrbordeAES_24_96: Apparently not. Do you have BitTorrent installed somewhere?10:17
AES_24_96it was straight from ubuntu I thought it would be best10:17
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AES_24_96I dont think I have bit torrent10:17
HendricNo1Viking, did mplayer and the plugin installed successfully??10:17
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OrbordeNo1Viking: Okay. Well, that's the extent of my helping ability.10:17
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No1VikingHendric, Yes10:17
signiusonce you uncompressed the .rar file was it an .iso ?10:17
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Admiral_Snydergood morning, friends10:17
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OrbordeAES_24_96: You might want to get that. Hang on.10:17
loogaanybody here use flickr?10:17
MadpilotAES_24_96: if you're running Ubuntu, you have a BT client built in..10:18
No1VikingThanks anyway Orborde10:18
AES_24_96once I decompresse3d it it dropped as folders10:18
HendricNo1Viking, try yahooligans.yahoo.com if you can view video streams...10:18
phiqtionhow can i add a image to my grub?10:18
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signiuswhat do you mean you dragged it and dropped10:18
OrbordeMadpilot: He's on XP.10:18
HendricNo1Viking, oh.. apt-get install w32codecs too...10:18
johnsie2lol10:18
Admiral_Snyderdoes one of you have an idea, where i could find an irc channel about VoIP?10:18
OrbordeHendric: Naw, that CAN'T be important....10:18
signiuswhat version of nero are you using ?10:18
apokryphosw32codecs isn't in the repositories at all anymore10:18
atripathiheh just found that nautilus can write CDs.....try out peeps. Its really cool. Just see menu options in your file manager(i hope is nautilus)10:18
MadpilotOrborde: heh, my bad... I shouldn't just half-follow this channel, it moves too fast10:18
AES_24_96I unzipped (unrared) the ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso into a windows directory10:18
Hendricwell... forget it.. hehee10:18
AES_24_96oh oh10:19
AES_24_96hold on Im an idiot10:19
johnsie2!w32codecs10:19
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:19
phiqtionhow can i add a image to my grub? thank you..10:19
Crys_Ubu_PC/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda  is gonna reinstall grub, right?10:19
johnsie2:-)10:19
MadpilotAES_24_96: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto10:19
OrbordeMadpilot: Yeah....10:19
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AES_24_96ok guys I am sorry for wasting your time, I am a TOTAL maroon!!!!!10:19
HendricNo1Viking, try viewing a video stream and tell me the error...10:19
OrbordeAES_24_96: Do you have it solved?10:19
Crys_Ubu_PCDid you burn the rar onto the disc instead of the iso?10:19
atripathiphiq....I will use webmin for that10:19
AES_24_96no but it wasnt a rar10:19
OrbordeAES_24_96: Do you have a 650MB .iso file?10:19
AES_24_96LOL10:19
Crys_Ubu_PCOh. it was an iso file?10:20
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AES_24_96I have my winrar set to open isos, so it had a rar icon and I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT THE EXTENSION !!!!!10:20
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signiusAES people are trying to help you but you arent answering any of the questions people are asking you10:20
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AES_24_96sorry guys :(10:20
Crys_Ubu_PCAnd you copied the files onto the hard drive, then burned a data disk.10:20
OrbordeAES_24_96: We're a little frightened here, because you're making a lot of noise and sounding as if you're going in the wrong direction.10:20
signiusso its hard to help when you got be a fucking mind reader10:20
OrbordeAES_24_96: Okay, so you got the ISO?10:20
AES_24_96one sec10:20
AES_24_96yuo10:20
AES_24_96yup10:20
OrbordeAES_24_96: Have you verified that the ISO is intact?10:20
MadpilotAES_24_96: WinRAR has some odd ideas about what it should open - it screws with Java jar files too10:20
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OrbordeMadpilot: Well, jar files are usually just zip archives or something, aren't they?10:21
AES_24_96how do I verify that the iso is intact...scratch that let me burn it and reboot and we will see10:21
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Good luck with that then. We'll see you on the other side if it worked.10:21
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96,  bad Idea.10:21
AES_24_96yes Im very excited10:21
OrbordeAES_24_96: Are you using install or live?10:21
MadpilotOrborde: something like that, but they can/should run as the jar file - WinRAR shouldn't usually be touching them10:21
OrbordeAES_24_96: Yeah, you might want to hang on.10:21
signiusAnd still he goes off not answering anything at all anyone asked him10:21
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, You better check that disk, or you could run into problems.10:21
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AES_24_96my main hardware supplier is SCREAMING for me to run this ardour thing, but that I need to put linnuxz to try10:21
AES_24_96install10:22
taotimecan lots of beer and linux go together10:22
aftertafback.... compiling e17 :)10:22
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Danomanis 5.10 a big upgrade related to 5.04?10:22
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Crys_Ubu_PCBeer and linux were meant for each other!!!!10:22
taotimesorry can lots of beer and lots of linux go together10:22
AES_24_96ok how do I verify that this iso is ok?10:22
signiusDo you know how to veriry md5 sums in Windows XP ?10:22
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AES_24_96no10:22
sambristai think you need a program10:23
MadpilotAES_24_96: see the wiki URL I gave you earlier, it's got info on verifying md5 in XP10:23
johnsie2tes taotime10:23
taotimecool crys ubu pc10:23
sambristabut i don't know which oen10:23
signiusI use md5sum.exe in a dos promt on xp10:23
phiqtionhow can i add a image to my grub? thank you..10:23
OrbordeMadpilot: What was that URL?10:23
Hendrici've had beers on my ref when i started linux 2weeks ago... and its bugless....10:23
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taotimecool hendric10:23
taotimeway to go10:23
taotimebeer and linux10:23
Orbordephiqtion: sudo update-grub tends to do wonders if it's already in /boot10:23
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taotimehey has anybody done  a search on linux and beer together10:23
MadpilotOrborde & AES_24_96: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto10:23
AES_24_96reading10:24
Jedrickhow to uninstall some installd programs on your computer using terminal?10:24
Crys_Ubu_PCwait, is that a program? I thought you were talking about hacking drunk.10:24
aftertafDanoman:  it's a new release10:24
HendricLOL i did... and found some funny sites about it...10:24
taotimena i am talking about hacking and not hacking drunk10:24
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woodwizzleif opengl acceleration is working fine, which is probably the better mplayer option? -vo gl2 or -vo xv ?10:24
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OrbordeMadpilot: There's nothing on there about md5 that I can see.10:24
Crys_Ubu_PCtaotime, Sorry. I meant that drinking and hacking go together.10:25
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starscallingtell starscalling about glib10:25
starscalling!tell starscalling about glib10:25
OrbordeMadpilot: Nothing more specific than "verify the archive"10:25
Hendricer.. me too10:25
signiusNo it doesnt tell you how to check the iso it just says verify the iso and assumes you know how to do it10:26
taotimecrus : u r right10:26
Jedrickhow to uninstall some installd programs on your computer using terminal?10:26
sambristahi everybody, I'm thinking about installing ubuntu linux in my computer. The fact is that i have already installed a linux distribution (guadalinex, based in debian) and I want to share the /home/my user/ directory. Will there be any problems about permissions or program configuration files conflicts?10:26
MadpilotOrborde: there's a link to an XP utility that'll verify md5sums10:26
signiusyou need to get md5sum.exe and drop into \windows\system3210:26
taotimei havent done any hacking though i have finished a good part of my drinking share10:26
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, You should check out hjsplit. It's a file splitting program for windows. makes it able to send large files in batch emails. Also has a md5sum tool so that you can check the file afterwards.10:26
signiusonce you done that you run it giving it the location and full file name of the iso you want to veriry10:26
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sambristaapt-get remove packagename and the program will be removed, you need to be root to do it10:26
Hendric!realplayer10:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:26
AES_24_96http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/10:27
signiusthis will give you a really long alpahnumeric10:27
AES_24_96that thing?10:27
Jedrickok thnx10:27
OrbordeMadpilot: ...where? I can't find it. maybe I'm dumb.10:27
Danomanone question.. will they update for example gnome in 5.10 tree over time.. or do i have to wait for next release again for the update of gnome? (i know that gnome i 5.10 is the newest, but it isnt in maybe 4 month..)10:27
signiusyou check that against the one given to you from the same place you downloaded the iso from10:27
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taotimeno man it's been a week since i installed ubuntu and i still cannot get realplayer working10:27
Crys_Ubu_PCOkay, once more. /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda is gonna reinstall grub fresh, right?!10:27
Hendricobotu: tell No1Viking  about realplayer10:27
signiusif it doesnt match 100% you need to re-download the iso as it is screwed someone10:27
phiqtionorborde: can i just throw the file there? or do i need to put the extracted one?10:27
taotimesynaptics is great but i didn't help me with either installing fluxbox or realplayer10:27
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signiusif it matches perfect then move on to the next stage of buring the iso to cd10:27
MadpilotOrborde: there's a like that goes here: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm10:28
Madpilot*link, even10:28
sambristahi everybody, I'm thinking about installing ubuntu linux in my computer. The fact is that i have already installed a linux distribution (guadalinex, based in debian) and I want to share the /home/my user/ directory. Will there be any problems about permissions or program configuration files conflicts?10:28
AES_24_96ok one sec10:28
Hendrictaotime, i guess the beer caused it10:28
signiusthere is 2 ways to burn the iso's with nero depending on what version you have10:28
Orbordephiqtion: How did you install the kernel image thingy?10:28
signiusboth are simple10:28
taotimesambrista :  dont10:28
aftertafsambrista:  make sure users have same uid10:28
sambristaok thanks!10:28
taotimesambrista :  dont try it have done it before and the result is messy.10:28
Madpilotlater, all. need sleep.10:29
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Crys_Ubu_PCOr else you could find a version of alchohol and use that. it is great for isos.10:29
Orbordephiqtion: Are you trying to get it to recognize a kernel image you've dropped into the appropriate directory (which may not be /boot; I don't know exactly where they go) ?10:29
taotimehey what is10:29
taotimenever mind10:29
taotimelook if i don't know the wc program from kernighan and ritchie should i quit programming10:30
taotimeor should i never bother trying10:30
Jedricki install 3dchess, how can i play the game? it's not in the games list10:30
sambristajust type 3dchess in a terminal, it should work10:30
taotimejedrick : go to terminal and type 3dchess10:30
taotimeoh oh10:31
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HendricOO's website is as slow as the program on a lesser than 128MB ram pc10:31
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sambristawell, i'm leaving, bye everybody10:31
sambristathanks10:31
taotimesambrista : 3dchess aint that much more fun AFAIK10:31
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Jedricktahorg:  i did, but it says no command10:31
johnsie2or else it should be in the file system /usr/games10:31
phiqtionOrborde, i just dropped the xpw in /boot/grub10:31
Orbordephiqtion: xpw?10:31
Orbordephiqtion: What is an xpw?10:32
Crys_Ubu_PCHelp me with my grub, someone.10:32
Jedricki mean taotime10:32
Orbordephiqtion: Can you tell me what you're doing and what you did so far, beginning to end?10:32
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: I'm no expert, but what do you need?10:32
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AES_24_96Im screwing up10:32
BLUE_ICEHendric,  preng unsaon pag share nato ang printer naka print nako10:32
taotimeJedrick : type cd /usr/bin/games/10:32
sorush20anyone here part of the freedom league ? Does anyone here live in the Uk, and do they know of a good site that give advise on what to prepare for in case of a flood disaster etc? Why woun't universities use open source?10:32
Crys_Ubu_PCI just need a verification before I input this command.10:32
Jedrickok10:32
AES_24_96I ran md5sums.exe and it came back with a string10:33
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Crys_Ubu_PC/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda will re-install my grub, right?10:33
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signiusyes thats correct10:33
AES_24_96what do I check the string against?10:33
Orbordesorush20: Pretty varied set of questions, isn't that?10:33
sorush20any one here have the same problem with firefox it will not update the extensions.?10:33
HendricBLUE_ICE, preng la nimo gitanaw tong sites nga hatag nako?? mao to ang full instructions10:33
signiuswhere youd ownlaoded the file from is a file xalled md5sum10:33
sorush20Orborde: just asking;-)10:33
signiusits ussually a text file10:33
taotimesorush20 : it been a week i m trying to but won't update extensions10:33
AES_24_96ok10:33
johnsie2no my firefox disappears on me all the time10:33
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, There should be a md5sum on the site you got the iso from./10:33
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signiusyou just have to compare the result of your mdsum string against that of the text file and make sure they match perfect10:34
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: I'm cruising the manual.10:34
sorush20taotime: you checked out the bugs for the problem on the internet? its just that I don';t know what to describe it as?10:34
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: Point him to the MD5 list file on the Ubuntu servers.10:34
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phiqtionOrborde, i want my grub to look like this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2996210:34
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Yes, sir.10:34
AES_24_96ok Im checking now10:34
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Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Here it is. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS10:35
AES_24_96they match10:35
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Crys_Ubu_PCWoot! Burn it, son.10:35
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AES_24_96ok so in nero do I just choose new iso?10:35
sorush20is there any p2p program with A.I. where by it would search and download for the latest movies and vids on the p2p networks and find your faves of music, download at night and view when ever you are up?10:36
taotimesorush20 :  i tried three different things :  let firefox do it, tried to install realplayer myself and tried to reinstall rhythmbox10:36
Orbordephiqtion: Holy cow...that's a big out of my range. So you want a grub splash image, and you're not having any trouble with the kernel images themselves?10:36
signiuswhat version you using10:36
Crys_Ubu_PCThat doesn't sound right. what version are you using?10:36
AES_24_96610:36
AES_24_96choose "no multisession" right?10:36
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: My inexpert advice is yes, that will do the trick. (grub-install)10:36
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signiusi think under 6 you choose file then image file10:37
signiusthen you navigate to the iso image10:37
signiusthen you click burn10:37
sorush20taotime: what do you mean installed realyplayer and rhythmox, I don't ask anything about those.. ?10:37
phiqtionOrborde, nope10:37
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Well, worst case, I need to download and burn the grub boot cd, which I should really have around anyway.10:37
AES_24_96ok its burning10:37
BLUE_ICEwhat is Clock Skew Detected?10:37
AES_24_96now I made a separate partition for linnux on my drive10:38
OrbordeAES_24_96: Make sure you're burning the ISO as an image, not onto a big data disc. My friend did that to me by accident once. Couldn't figure out why the darn things wouldn't boot...10:38
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Good luck, man.10:38
HendricCrys_Ubu_PC, why not use the install CD then recover?10:38
AES_24_96I dont need to run partition commander and tell it I want another os do I ?10:38
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: What happened to the old grub setup?10:38
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Crys_Ubu_PCI need to run it again so it will add DamSmallLinux.10:38
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phiqtionif something goes wrong with my grub, what command do i have to overwrite it? or will putting the ubuntu cd have some advanced script to write grub again?10:39
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signiusno ubuntu will setup a boot loader10:39
OrbordeAES_24_96: You just need to size down your windows partition from commander.10:39
Crys_Ubu_PCHendric, That could work. If I screw it up, i'll try it.10:39
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AES_24_96how much space do I need? I will be reading the audio files off of separate disks, but how much do I need for the system10:40
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kairu0hi all10:40
OrbordeAES_24_96: Then use the partition EDITOR in Ubuntu to create a swap partition and system partition from the empty space. I recommend a separate home partition, too.10:40
phiqtionif something goes wrong with my grub, what command do i have to overwrite it? or will putting the ubuntu cd have some advanced script to write grub again?10:40
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OrbordeAES_24_96: I'd say about 5GB for the Ubuntu desktop.10:40
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HendricCrys_Ubu_PC, gud luck then10:40
OrbordeAES_24_96: Minimum, that is.10:40
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, If you are a primarily Windows user, then 5 or 10 gig is plenty.10:40
AES_24_965 gigs, then how much for the swap?10:40
OrbordeAES_24_96: Mine is 1.5GB, but that's kind of biggish.10:41
Hendricits my 2nd ubuntu weeksarry on friday... yipey!! more beer plS!!!10:41
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, I use a gig or .75 gig.10:41
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OrbordeAES_24_96: Wait...you're going to be ripping audio?10:41
AES_24_96no Im supposed to test some app called ardour10:41
AES_24_96Ill be testing it as a mixer and recorder10:41
OrbordeAES_24_96: The 5GB figure is for JUST THE INSTALL, not anything else. You'll probably want at least 10GB.10:42
OrbordeAES_24_96: Maybe more.10:42
woodwizzleis there a way to check which XF86Config or xorg.conf file your x11 server is using?10:42
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Hey, just so as to avoid a potential problem, your windows partition...NTFS or FAT32?10:42
OrbordeAES_24_96: How big is your hard drive, and how much space do you have free in Windows?10:42
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: Why do you ask?10:42
AES_24_96the system drive is 40 gigs10:42
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Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Why do I ask what again?10:42
OrbordeAES_24_96: Is there another drive or something? So it's one single 40GB hard drive? How much space is free on it?10:43
taotimesorush20 :  no i meant i couldn't do it either10:43
AES_24_96its partitioned into one 10.7 for system ,  one 19 gig for system storgae and 6.82 gigs for linnux10:43
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: Why are you asking which filesystem it's on?10:43
Hendricone cool question... how do i change the GNOME feet icon on the MENU.. and make it a START button similar to windowz10:43
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OrbordeHendric: Yes.10:43
Hendrichow do i change the GNOME feet icon on the MENU.. and make it a START button similar to windowz?10:44
AES_24_96I got maybe 3 gigs free betwen the twop other partitions10:44
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Because, he's obviously new to this, and if it's NTFS grub won't boot it, right?10:44
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AES_24_96the winxp suystem partition is ntfs, the storage partition is fat32 and the linnux partition is fat3210:44
OrbordeAES_24_96: Okay, 6.82GB for Linux, you said? That should be okay-ish. If you run out of space come back and we'll help you.10:44
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OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: GRUB can boot an NTFS-based Windows system. I know; this machine I'm on is a dual-booter.10:45
AES_24_96now I have one harddisk full of audio files to test with thats on fat 32, is fat 32 ok for linnuix? I can copy that drive to antohter if need be10:45
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Since when? I've always been told no.10:45
OrbordeAES_24_96: FAT32 is quite all right with Linux. NTFS is the one that gives it a little trouble.10:46
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AES_24_96ok, np10:46
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OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: I dunno. I've been using this one for a month.10:46
AES_24_96looks like I have a few projects on fat32 drives10:46
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Well, you are either a big exception, or my limited knowledge needs to be revised. I'll do some reading.10:46
AES_24_96alright disk is burned wish me luck!!!!10:46
Crys_Ubu_PCGood luck!10:46
OrbordeAES_24_96: Good luck. See you in a bit, we hope.10:47
Hendricgud luck!10:47
AES_24_96where do I get irc for ubuntu?10:47
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Crys_Ubu_PCIt will come with it installed.10:47
Hendriccan anyone tell me how to change d gnome feet icon on the launcher menu??\10:47
AES_24_96AWESOME!!10:47
rob_AES_24_96, here10:47
AES_24_96ok bbiab10:47
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: Now, I'm pretty sure that booting Linux OFF an NTFS partition is currently either impossible or just a Really Bad Idea....10:47
Crys_Ubu_PCHendric, What is d gnome feet?10:47
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DjKriticaldoes anyone know the name of the pakage for the kernal source?10:48
rob_Orborde, or just a case of why bother?10:48
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, I'd say impossible.10:48
Orborderob_: Yeah, that too.10:48
Hendricoh.. the ubuntu icon... on breezy.. how do i change it to something like a wider icon with text10:48
rob_!kernel-source10:48
uboturob_: I don't know, could you explain it?10:48
rob_!info kernel-source10:48
Orborderob_: Maybe you have a fetish for proprietary filesystems?10:48
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Crys_Ubu_PCHendric, Oh, no clue. I'm on Hoary anyways.10:48
crimsunDjKritical: linux-source-2.6.10 (Hoary), linux-source-2.6.12 (Breezy)10:48
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DjKriticalthanks!10:49
Adrosswhats the path for the default login sound of ubuntu?10:49
rob_!info kernel-source-2.6.1110:49
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Why would you want to do that, anyways?10:49
Hendricin hoary... the feet icon you click like the start menu on windows.. how do you change that?10:49
OrbordeHendric: SOMEONE clearly knows how to do it, since it changeed between Hoary and Breezy....10:49
rob_heh, I'm looking at that package right now :)10:49
Crys_Ubu_PCHendric, Why would you want to do that, anyways?10:49
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: Do what? Boot Linux off NTFS? I have no idea. Because you would be worshipped by your peers?10:49
HendricOrborde, yeah.. who could that be?10:49
crimsunAdross: /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav10:49
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Sorry, wrong user.10:49
Adrosscrimsun: thanks10:49
NgOrborde: you'd be largely ignored I suspect ;)10:50
Hendrici want to change it to something that suits me.. like "<icon> Hendric Rocks!"10:50
Hendricisn't that cool?10:50
Crys_Ubu_PCAudigy rocks!!!!!10:50
OrbordeNg: Well, pfft.10:50
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Crys_Ubu_PCGimp Rocks!!!10:50
Crys_Ubu_PCI love linux software!10:50
OrbordeNg: Windows being unable to read any standard Linux filesystem can be a blessing, anyway.10:50
AdrossCrys_Ubu_PC: gimp does indeed roxors my boxors10:51
Crys_Ubu_PCI hope AES makes it.10:51
taotimehey anybody know i installed dillo but it doesn't show up on any menus10:51
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NgOrborde: there are applications/drivers for Windows that will let you read ext2/ext310:51
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Crys_Ubu_PCtaotime It does that alot. You should log out and back in and see if that fixes it.10:51
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OrbordeNg: Yes, though it doesn't come standard. And again, why do you want the Virus Trap capable of fiddling your other OSes?10:51
Crys_Ubu_PCNg, You need to name one, and I want it.10:51
Hendricchanging gnome icon on the launcher... anyone?????10:51
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NgCrys_Ubu_PC: the last one I used was gnome2fs, but there may be better ones since then. I expect if you search google for "windows ext3" you will find others :)10:52
taotimecrys_ubu_pc : i logged out restarted the computer today and was hoping to see it but i couldn't anyways, i m from slackware so i dont mind the terminal line just a question though10:52
OrbordeHendric: Internet!10:52
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Dejavuhey can anyone tell me how to get that cool icon bar at the bottom ?10:52
HendricOrborde, OMG forgot that...10:52
Dejavuthe one that Mac OSX has10:52
NgHendric: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png on breezy, no idea on hoary, I don't have any left10:52
Crys_Ubu_PCHendric, No clue, but here is a clue. Check how the theme people do it.10:53
OrbordeNg: I think it'd be a better idea to go find the responsible conf file.10:53
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Hendrici'm trying to create ubundows.. wow cool!!!10:53
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Dejavuhey can anyone tell me how to get that cool icon bar at the bottom ? the one that looks like Mac Os-X  ??10:54
Crys_Ubu_PCHendric, Good luck. In that case you should make an installable gnome theme that looks like windows.10:54
NgOrborde: is there one? that's just part of an icon theme afaics10:54
Crys_Ubu_PCDejavu, It is a10:54
OrbordeDejavu: No, but on Ubuntu, you CAN easily drag icons onto the top panel...10:54
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OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: Ever heard of XPde?10:55
Yetr2Crys_Ubu_PC, it's already been done for gnome, kde, and about 5 other popular WMs10:55
Crys_Ubu_PCDejavu, It is a panel with a transparent backgroun and launchers.10:55
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HendricCrys_Ubu_PC, hopefully... my internet shop is with ubuntu... customers big problem: how can i begin? where's the START menu???10:55
OrbordeNg: Well, what determines the theme?10:55
DejavuCrys_Ubu_PC, yeah .. thats the one i wanna know abt !10:55
DejavuOrborde, yeah i know that .. i was asking abt another bar10:55
Hendricargh... i better ad START beside the feet icon and hopefully create an exact look10:55
DejavuCrys_Ubu_PC, know the name for that ?10:56
daoDejavu, starerbar from gdesklets10:56
OrbordeDejavu: I believe there is some easy way to create a new panel...hang on and I'll fiddle...10:56
Crys_Ubu_PCDejavu, play around with the panels you allready have. Get familiar, and you'll figurwe it out.10:56
taotimeanyone here installed fluxbox instead of the default10:56
daoDejavu, starterbar10:56
NgOrborde: other than the gui theme selector I have no idea. I tend not to use my time replacing menu logos ;)10:56
Hendrictaotime, i did... apt-get install fluxbox10:56
basvgbah!10:56
Crys_Ubu_PCtaotime, i did, but configuring it was too much for me.10:56
basvgI just did the update from breezy to hoary and I end up with both OO and OO2 :-(10:57
basvgdamned10:57
DejavuStarterBar .. humm .. that might be the one :D !!10:57
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Ngbasvg: so remove the one you don't want :)10:57
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, I have never ever heard of XPde10:57
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RedGhostall my updates just failed saying error cannot find E:\ or something10:57
RedGhostnever had that b410:57
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: http://www.xpde.com/10:57
SGershonDamn, me back again. Same problem, same despair.10:57
basvgNg: yeah I will.. just hoped the update would take care of that as was suggested here earlier today ;)10:57
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Crys_Ubu_PCI love firefox too!10:58
g0rd0nhello! i have a problem with my keyboard... it's the german layout, but when typing the accents (near the backspace key) they get displayed immediatelly... however the correct behavior should be that nothing happens until i type a vocal, so i get the acents on the vocals... how can i chagne this behavior?10:58
Dejavudao, which repositories should i add to get j2re and RealPlayer10 added in Synaptic ?10:58
Jedrickhow to start NumLock on boot?10:59
OrbordeDejavu: Well, the best I can come up with is that you can move your existing panels around by click and drag, and you can create a new panel by right-clicking on an existing one and selecting "New Panel"10:59
SGershonI have a Notebook. Toshiba M40. It has a Marvell/Yukon 88E8036 PCI-E Ethernet Connection.10:59
Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, Thank you alot. That is gonna make it wicked easy to get my dad into linux.10:59
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SGershonIt was suposed to work with Breezy Install, but its not!10:59
Skidw 2410:59
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Crys_Ubu_PCOkay all. It's my bedtime. See ya.10:59
Seveasbedtime, hmmm10:59
OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: You're getting your family on Linux? Good luck.10:59
Jedrickhow to automatically start NumLock on boot?10:59
SeveasI just woke up :)10:59
SGershonJedrick, try the NumLoxkX package.10:59
DejavuOrborde, humm .. lemme check that now :D10:59
Jedrickok10:59
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Crys_Ubu_PCOrborde, He want's to try it. I figure if it is alot like windows, he'll stay.11:00
Hendric5PM here11:00
Hendrichihi11:00
daoDejavu, I use javapackage for java and I dont use realplayer, so I don't know about that sorry11:00
SGershonI am now on Windows. Can you tell me what I should check when on Linux in order to help you in helping me?11:00
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Crys_Ubu_PCAnd it ought to be, just better.11:00
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OrbordeCrys_Ubu_PC: I'd be careful; it might be better to use Ubuntu, which is already corrected wired with its desktop manager.11:00
tombshi all11:00
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OrbordeCrap.11:00
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Orbordetombs: Hello.11:01
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AES_24_96!@##$%%11:01
ubotuAES_24_96: I don't know, could you explain it?11:01
AES_24_96argh11:01
OrbordeAES_24_96: Not so hot?11:01
AES_24_96Im still under bill gates thumb11:01
SGershonbecause I saw in ubuntu forum that in Breezy it works.11:01
OrbordeAES_24_96: Well, your computer appears to have survived. What happened?11:01
Dejavudao, np :D11:02
AES_24_96wouldnt boot from the cd11:02
HendricAES_24_96, it didn't boot eh?11:02
AES_24_96nope11:02
OrbordeAES_24_96: Is your BIOS set up correctly?11:02
AES_24_96maybe11:02
AES_24_96its set to boot from cd11:02
OrbordeAES_24_96: Check the CD. Stick it in now and see if the files and whatnot appear to be on it properly.11:02
AES_24_96is fpu copmpatiable mode supposed to be on?11:02
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AES_24_96uh oh11:03
HendricAES_24_96, try inserting your CD... then browse the CD.. if you get a single file inside with .iso you're in a big trouble.11:03
OrbordeAES_24_96: FPU compatible what?11:03
AES_24_96lol ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso11:03
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AES_24_96oops11:03
OrbordeAES_24_96: Good job.11:03
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Hendriclolx..11:03
OrbordeAES_24_96: That is exactly what one of my friends did once.11:03
AES_24_96heh11:03
OrbordeAES_24_96: Okay, get it burned correctly this time.11:03
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Hendricburn from image.. don't burn a data disc11:04
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OrbordeAES_24_96: Under some burner software, you need to hit Copy CD and select the image as the source.11:04
HendricAES_24_96, you can also right click on an .ISO file and see if you get a burn option.. safer!11:05
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Hendricwe have that on ubuntu.. hehehe11:05
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Yetr2or under the 'tools' menu of your burning app, find the option that says 'burn image'11:05
brummiehi folks11:06
Hendriclow11:06
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OrbordeHendric: Yeah, though I'd rather use Gnomebaker.11:07
Monhi, after a fresh breezy install my monitor won't go over 1024x768@60hz while i'm sure it had a better refresh rate using hoary11:07
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Monwhen i set the minimum rate to 72 for example it automaticly uses 800x600...11:07
Hendricwat if all the people here ask a question each? hmm....11:07
OrbordeMon: Not to be mean, but does it bother you that much?11:07
MonOrborde: yes really :)11:07
OrbordeHendric: #ubuntu = DDoSed11:07
Mon60 hz is quite painfull on the eyes11:07
sarefohi, any hints on how to get an acer usb scanner to run?11:07
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HendricOrborde, lolx11:08
basvghmm, apart from the OO/OO2 things seems to have gone just fine. Wow :)11:08
Yetr2Mon, try setting up your monitor manually so you can access the higher refresh rates?11:08
JedrickHow can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows11:08
Orbordebasvg: Well, OO2 is technically a separate beast...11:08
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brummiethinking of going from windows to linux is it as painless as it says?11:08
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debuggerhello11:08
sarefoxsane tells me 'no devices available', under winxp it works out of the box.11:08
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OrbordeJedrick: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/11:09
HendricMon, for some instance my 17 inch monitor that can handle 80Hz on a 1280x960 on windows.. won't work on ubuntu.. so stayed on lower Hz11:09
kairu0sarefo, make sure you are part of the scanning group11:09
Yetr2brummie, do you play games? does your life depend on knowing how to use M$ office products?11:09
basvgOrborde: jeah, I know :-) I just purged OO and now I'm happy. Diskspace usage back to approx 2Gb so that seems allright11:09
debuggerI'm installing breeze, its seems to be going ok, but I keep getting font config messages like: "Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file"  can I ignore these?11:09
MonYetr2: manually look for specs you mean?11:09
Seveas!tell Orborde about ubuntuguide11:09
sarefokairu0: how do i check this?11:10
MonHendric: but this one worked better before. i can really notice the difference11:10
brummienot a gamer and dont mind which office type packages11:10
OrbordeSeveas: It does have handy info for codec issues, which is what I was answering.11:10
MonYetr2: apart from that if it worked on hoary and doesn't on breezy something sorta gone wrong imo11:10
Seveasbrummie, then going to linux will be easy, it'll be a relief11:10
OrbordeSeveas: But thanks.11:10
brummieneed a spread sheet and a word processor though11:10
SeveasOrborde, it does not. It has info to screw op your system11:10
Orbordebrummie: As painless as setting up the Windows preinstalled on your machine? No, and it will never be. However, unless you have bizarre hardware, it should be about as easy as installing Windows manually.11:11
zorba64debugger: yep it will work out in the end11:11
Yetr2Mon, it detected the wrong stuff... you need to change it, and yes if it involves looking up refresh rates for your monitor model11:11
OrbordeSeveas: What? Where?11:11
SeveasOrborde, all over the place11:11
debuggerzorba64, I see. thx :)11:11
Seveaswe've spent countless hours in here helping people undo damage caused by that piece of crud11:11
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OrbordeSeveas: Okay, I see your point.11:12
Yetr2brummie, learn how to use OpenOffice.org on windows first. if not, look into purchasing a copy of crossover office for your linux install.11:12
sarefobtw, can somebody tell me the philosophy behind not being able to access root, unless you reboot to recovery mode and set the password there?11:12
Orborde!faq11:12
ubotu[faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/11:12
Yetr2sarefo, you don't need to do that... use sudo to set the root password11:12
zorba64!root11:12
ubotuwell, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:12
Orbordesarefo: You can access root via su11:12
SeveasOrborde, no ou can't11:12
HendricSeveas, i believe you.. messed up my firefox with unofficialguide.11:12
Orbordesarefo: The idea is to keep you from always running as root.11:12
brummienormal hardware epson print/canon scan couple of plex's an pioneer dvd writer11:12
Seveasyou can get a rootshell with sudo -i11:13
AES_24_96ok rtheres files on the cd this time11:13
SeveasYetr2, and you don't need a root password for that :)11:13
AES_24_96bbiab11:13
OrbordeSeveas: I just did su, and got a root shell....11:13
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sarefothx zorba6411:13
HendricOrborde, sudo -H -s does11:13
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SeveasOrborde, then you have set a root password :)11:13
sarefo+ Orborde11:13
Orbordebrummie: Try setting up dual-boot first?11:13
SeveasHendric, sudo -i is a shortcut for sudo -H -s :)11:13
Hendric:)11:14
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Orbordebrummie: Are you looking to erase everything and start over with Linux?11:14
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brummiegonna build a new machine11:14
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Orbordebrummie: Okay, then Linux away.11:14
brummiethis ones dying on me11:14
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Orbordebrummie: If there's nothing you want on the machine to do it on, by all means, do whatever you want.11:15
Yetr2brummie, learn to use openoffice for word processing and spreadsheets.11:15
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Orbordebrummie: It should be pretty easy, then.11:15
HendricSeveas, i tried "sudo passwd root" then set the password.. i tried the passwd -l to make it normal... i can't get root anymore.. hows that?11:15
Orbordebrummie: Things are known to go wrong, but that's what we're here for.11:15
SeveasHendric, you can get a root shell with sudo -i11:15
OrbordeWell, except for me, because I need to go to bed. Good night.11:16
Hendricbut i can't get the password right anymore...11:16
brummieok thanks for your help, no doubt I will be in here sometime in the near future pestering you ;)11:16
OrbordeHendric: sudo passwd might allow you to reset it?11:16
wezzeronly a day left11:16
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SeveasHendric, sudo needs *your* password11:16
Seveasnot a root password11:16
brummiebye folks11:16
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Cavallohi. Is it possible to login with windows2003 domain user in ubuntu? I have join machine to domain and i can see users with getent passwd11:17
Hendricsudo passwd asks for a password.. then i get wrong password.. i tried user pass and root pass.. no luck11:17
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yhannhello to all11:17
Hendricthat's d reason why i don't passwd -l anymore... specially when fixing the spca5xx which requires you to set root password11:18
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SeveasHendric, hehe sudo passwd will ask for a password 3 times: sudo asks once (your pass), passwd twice (the new pass for the user you change the password for)11:18
yhannAnyone here using Kleansweep?11:18
sarefoi checked dmesg, and it tells me 'usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -110; new full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 3;... device not accepting address 3, error -110'11:18
sarefoany ideas what that means?11:19
HendricSeveas, will the spca4xx bug get fixed on the final release???11:19
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SeveasHendric, no clue, never heard of that bug11:19
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Hendricor still have to go on CC=gcc-3.4 on every update?11:19
Hendricspca5xx i mean11:19
Seveasah, kernel modules do need gcc3.411:19
Seveasthat is NOT a bug11:19
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Hendricah.. ic..11:19
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yhannI need to know how safe he is to run kleansweep as root and wich file can be erased safely?11:20
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Hendricthe spca5xx kernel that came with breezy is broken.. locks up PC when running webcam...11:20
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Hendricbut the CC=gcc=3.4 did the trick11:20
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Hendric*lacks 'module'11:20
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Ngso the kernel crashes if you compile the kernel with gcc4?11:20
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DjKriticalanyone know the command to reload fstab?11:21
yhannI need to know how safe he is to run kleansweep as root and wich file can be erased safely?11:21
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HendricDjKritical, mount -a11:21
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DjKriticalthanks!11:21
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asranielhi, i have a REALY big problem. how can i tell alsa to use the second soundcard as the default one? i cant disable the first one in the bios. please help me11:21
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Dejavuhow do i give Internet Access to others on my Lan  using WinXP ??11:22
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Hendriccan't disable in bios? you got a rude bios...11:22
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HendricDejavu, WinXP serves?? then use internet connection sharing11:23
Yetr2asraniel, of course you can disable the onboard sound... take a screw driver and pry the ICchip off the board...11:23
DejavuHendric, no i mean i wanna give Others net  from my Ubuntu system11:23
asranielYetr2: so you pay me a new motherboard?11:23
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HendricYetr2, that should go on the ubunturoughguide\11:23
Jeromeelol.11:24
sarefocan you resize a partition under ubuntu out of the box?11:24
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Yetr2asraniel, no, I would just laugh at you11:24
Yetr2I'm gona try that... take an air rifle and disable the onboard sound on a board to see if it actually disables it.11:25
HendricDejavu, use firewall... Iptables11:25
Yetr2leaving the board working11:25
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Yetr2air rifles make the best tools for removing those icky ICchips off of mother boards11:25
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AES_24_96Im in purgatory11:26
DejavuHendric, im using Firestarter .. will that do the stuff ?  and from where will i get all the info for this thing  if i wanna do it with the iptables ?11:26
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AES_24_96hi Crys_Ubu_PC11:26
Hendricwait... i'll find it for you11:26
erickguys how can i secure my ssh11:26
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Crys_Ubu_PCHey, I see you are still running, or else newly installed. Everything linuxy?11:26
AES_24_96my ubuntu disk booted! I am on a different pc, just making sure I install it right11:27
AES_24_96I am on the partition settings page and I have selected the partition I want to use11:27
Crys_Ubu_PCIt's pretty self explanatory.11:27
AES_24_96well do I want to make a separate swap partition on the same disk?11:28
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HendricAES_24_96, it suggests for a standard partitioning11:28
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AES_24_96ok Im dual booting btw11:29
JohnFluxHey all11:29
JohnFluxI can create a reiserfs4 filesystem, but I cannot mount it :)11:29
Yetr2AES_24_96, yes, make a partition for swap, usually 2x the amount of ram you have, up to a maximum of 2GB, allowed by the linux kernel.11:29
JohnFluxthe mount program doesn't have any reiser4 mount type11:29
asranielso, i can asume that on a computer with two soundcards, its not possible to have correct sound with ubuntu?11:29
AES_24_96ok I dont wasnt to screw up the other two partitions11:29
JohnFluxdo I need to get a newer mount program, or is it just that my kernel doesn't support it?11:30
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, The way it sounded was like it wants you to have four partitions. WinXP, Files, Ubuntu, and Swap./11:30
Yetr2JohnFlux, does you kernel even know about reiser4?11:30
AES_24_96asraniel I hope not thats exactly what I am installing ubuntu to test11:30
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JohnFluxYetr2: I don't know - it's the standard ubuntu 2.6 kernel.  I'll grab the source and recompile it myself11:30
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HendricDejavu, i can't find it.. its on tldp.org... grab the rc.firewall file... then change the ethernet settings that suits your setup... then find the accompanying startup file.. that should start the sharing on boot..11:30
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AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC yes, exactly, so do I tell it to delete the empty partition and make 2 out of it?11:30
Crys_Ubu_PCYeah.11:31
Yetr2JohnFlux, or you could just take a look at the config for the current kernel to see if reiser4 support is included11:31
AES_24_96ok11:31
TrewasJohnFlux: I don't think reiser4 is included in official linux kernels, you have to patch11:31
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Ngasraniel: it looks like there are some alsa/modprobe config things you can do, google turns up some things, posting to the ml/forum might help too11:31
AES_24_96now Im going to go retard basic, so Ill be back in a sec11:31
JohnFluxYetr2: does ubuntu store that somewhere? (other than the kernel-source11:31
JohnFlux)11:31
Ngasraniel: it should be doable though11:31
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asranielAES_24_96: well, it doesent work and nobody knows the answer to my question, so i asume that its not possible. its possible with mandriva, already did it11:31
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AES_24_96asraniel what cards are you using?11:31
DejavuHendric, okie dokie .. hey thanks for the time .. appreciate it :)11:32
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Crys_Ubu_PCasraniel, I didn't see your question.11:32
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asranielNg: i found a guide for gnome, but i use kubuntu, i figured out how to change de default on arts, but not all apps use arts, os i have to change the default of alsa too11:32
AES_24_96I am supposed to be testing with two RME HDSP 9652's under something called "jack"11:33
Yetr2JohnFlux, /boot/config-(kernel version)11:33
signiusOperating System [ Windows XP Build No. 2600 ]  - Uptime [ 2 hours 52 minutes 34 seconds ]  - IceChat Version 5.50 Build 010905 - Download at www.icechat.net11:33
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asranielAES_24_96: a onboard one and a creative pci one11:33
signiusHmmm11:33
AES_24_96ahhh11:33
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signiushow do i get the message of the room11:33
AES_24_96I know nothing of linnux11:33
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, I have no idea what you just said.11:33
AES_24_96Crys_Ubu_PC its some soundcards11:33
Crys_Ubu_PCOh, okay. I don't do cards.11:33
Paradoxxhmm11:33
AES_24_96was just asking ahead of time if it was an identical card asraniel was having problems with11:34
Paradoxxhas there been a new release for debain?11:34
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signiusParadoxx yes about a month or so ago11:34
Yetr2AES_24_96, generally, a linux system uses 4 partitions, /boot, /, swap, and /home. You can get by with just / if you really wanted to, thou it's a recipie for disaster if / gets curropted. you lose all your documents, as everything a normal user creates is in /home11:34
Paradoxxoh ok11:34
Crys_Ubu_PCThe good episodes of space ghost are on.11:35
JohnFluxYetr2: not mentioned at all (no reiser4 config).11:35
Paradoxxhmm, can wait for breezy now11:35
asranielAES_24_96: the problem is not the card itself, the problem is that i dont want to use my onboard one but the pci one, atm all the sound goes to the onboard one. i want to tell salsa to send the sound to the pci card11:35
JohnFluxYetr2: i guess that answers that :)11:35
AES_24_96ahhh11:35
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JohnFluxAES_24_96 Yetr2: for a normal user I always just say make one big partition.  these days hard disks just tend to fail totally11:36
Hendricasraniel, disable your onboard... and it should work out of the box11:36
Crys_Ubu_PCYetr2, that is a powerful setup you have there. Not really necessary for a newb, right?11:36
AES_24_96how big does each partition have to be?11:36
Oetzihi11:36
AES_24_96ok11:36
AES_24_96can I put the swapfile on the same partition?11:36
Oetzii have one question how can i disable breezy bootsplash11:36
asranielHendric: thats the problem, the bios is realy.. bad, i cant disable the onboard in the bios, and i couldnt find a way to do it in linux11:36
JohnFluxAES_24_96 Yetr2: I haven't recently seen just a partition die.  filesystem corruption just doesn't happen much anymore11:36
Yetr2Crys_Ubu_PC, powerful? where?11:36
Hendricasraniel, some MOBO requires a jumper to disable onboard sounds... but modern ones do it on the bioses...11:36
JohnFluxAES_24_96: you could, but don't11:36
AES_24_96ok so I want to make at least 2 partitions then right?11:37
asranielHendric: thank you, never thought of that, i will check if i can find that jumber11:37
Yetr2JohnFlux, I'm paranoid about data loss...11:37
Hendricgrab the manual.. if you haven't got one.. search a .pdf of your mobo. then look for on how to disable it...11:37
JohnFluxAES_24_96: I personally always do:  10MB /boot, 128MB /swap, rest /11:37
AES_24_96ok11:37
JohnFluxYetr2: I backup  :P11:37
Nga separate /home is more important than any of the others imho11:37
AES_24_96and since this is dual boot with xp, none of these three partitions will be primary partitions right?11:37
Ngthen your data is separated and you can reinstall at will and not worry about losing it11:37
JohnFluxI disagree.  there is nothing more annoying than running out of space on /  when you have GB's left on /home, or vice versa11:37
Yetr2in theory, you don't need /boot unless you are doing something really funky like / on LVM, RAID, and/or Encrypted.11:37
NgJohnFlux: it's very easy to never run out of space on /11:38
JohnFluxYetr2: or you have a crappy bios and a large disk11:38
Yetr2and actually, lilo understands LVM now11:38
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JohnFluxNg: not on laptops with only 40 or 60gb11:38
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JohnFluxNg: my /usr/src/kde alone is 17GB11:38
NgJohnFlux: my laptop has a <3gb /11:38
JohnFluxNg: different usages :)11:38
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, In your situation, I'd just use one partition for linux, and one for swap. They can both be primary.11:38
NgJohnFlux: a laptop hardly sounds like the right place for kde source, nor does /usr/src ;)11:39
AES_24_96primary on the same disk that has windows xp?11:39
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JohnFluxNg: actually I use /usr/local/kde3    but I thought i'd simplify my point ;)11:39
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AES_24_96does primary mean something different to linnux than windows?11:39
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, And I still think you're gonna have trouble running XP cuz it's on NTFS.11:39
NgJohnFlux: that's your choice to put the code in a nonstandard place, put it in $HOME/code/ and the problem goes away :)11:39
Yetr2JohnFlux, my p133 was raped, beaten, urinated on, set a blaze, and thrown into Tampa Bay... I'm not worried about my motherboards not supporting large disks11:39
JohnFluxAES_24_96: nope. primary is primary11:39
AES_24_96xp runs fine right now on ntfs11:39
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AES_24_96xp is already installed11:40
OetziHi can anyone answer my question please?11:40
AES_24_96Im trying to install linnux11:40
JohnFluxOetzi: how do we know?11:40
Hendrica customer beside me is reading aloud everything she finds on google... any help on this???11:40
Oetzi11:36 < Oetzi> i have one question how can i disable breezy bootsplash11:40
zoot_morning, any folks with software raid experience?11:40
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JohnFluxHendric: penthanol works wonders11:40
phiqtiongood morning, how can i get root access to the home folder?11:40
Hendriclolx bad bad11:40
Yetr2Hendric; goatse, tubgirl, scatmen, man-faye, etc.11:41
AES_24_96ok Im totally confused now11:41
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Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Right you are, but its my understanding that NTFS is poison to linux boot loaders.11:41
AES_24_96oh11:41
NgOetzi: edit the grub config file (/boot/grub/menu.lst probably) and remove the word "splash" from the relevant line11:41
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NgOetzi: do be careful though :)11:41
znhCrys_Ubu_PC, yeah NTFS is posion of Bill Gates11:41
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Crys_Ubu_PCHey!!! can Grub or Lilo run NTFS loaders?11:41
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AES_24_96well I cant make two primary partitions in addition to my windows partition which is already primary right?11:41
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Crys_Ubu_PCOS's*11:41
phiqtiongood morning, how can i get root access to the home folder?11:41
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Yetr2Crys_Ubu_PC, both grub and lilo can boot a windows OS that is located on XP11:42
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Hendricphiqtion, gksudo nautilus then browse the home folder...11:42
znhphiqtion, sudo cd /home (the password is equal to your user password)11:42
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RedGhosthey i cant update, each time i try i get errors saying failed to overwrite xxx from package xxx what could be causing it?11:42
zoot_reprise.. any sofware raid folks online?11:42
Morrowynrun a root terminal ?11:42
Yetr2Crys_Ubu_PC, err, located on NTFS11:42
OetziNg: thx11:42
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, It will be okay, I think. XP just has trouble with more than four partitions on a drive.11:42
AES_24_96ok I am safest making both partitions logical right?11:42
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, I don't think it could hurt.11:43
AES_24_96ok brb11:43
sarefowhat's the best way to reinstall grub after i installed winxp on a machine that had only ubuntu on it before? (not using a floppy, don't have one, possibly using knoppix)11:43
AES_24_96or wait11:43
AES_24_96why would I ewant to make one primary?11:43
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Hendricsarefo, grub-install /dev/hdxx11:44
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, I'm not sure.11:44
JohnFluxsarefo: boot an ubuntu install  and do what Hendric said11:44
JohnFluxAES_24_96: you only have 4 primaries11:44
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JohnFluxAES_24_96: if you don't think you'll need more than that, make them all primary11:44
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, Just delete the partition you made with windows, and let the install disc automatically partition the free space.11:44
AES_24_96ok11:45
JohnFluxAES_24_96: to be safe I always make 3 primary then the 4th extended if I need to11:45
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Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, It was made by very smart nerds who drink plenty of beer, to help their brains stay smart.11:45
Yetr2I make all 4 primary and throw the 4th one on LVM11:45
AES_24_96ok it mae its own, but the swap it made was only337 megs11:46
g0rd0nhello! i have a problem with my keyboard... it's the german layout, but when typing the accents (near the backspace key) they get displayed immediatelly... however the correct behavior should be that nothing happens until i type a vocal, so i get the acents on the vocals... how can i chagne this behavior?11:46
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AES_24_96one says ext311:46
Yetr2 /boot, swap, /, LVM_PV, then each additional disk, I add 2 partitions of swap and LVM_PV11:46
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blue_hi guys11:47
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zoot_calling all raid gurus, yoohoo ;)11:47
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blue_is breezy final still expected at the 13th11:47
blue_?11:47
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Yetr2AES_24_96, just trust the default partitioning scheme that ubuntu gives you untill you learn more about linux in general.11:47
Yetr2blue_, of 200611:48
AES_24_96ok11:48
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Hendricusually do a primary partition on /, /home, /usr... then a swap... and a 5GB /windows with fat32 for easy plugging on a windows system...11:48
AES_24_96then I am going to "finish partitioning and write changes to disk"11:48
benkong2gday all11:48
znhg'day benkong211:48
blue_Yetr2,  no !!! i mean tomorrow11:49
blue_13th of October 200511:49
benkong2why does firefox think its already running when I start it? new AMD64 breezy install11:49
Yetr2blue_, depends... what year do you live in?11:49
ccookeblue_: Yes, it's still expected tomorrow11:49
Yetr2some people still live in 196011:49
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Hendricso mirrors are slow tomorrow eh?11:49
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Yetr2some people's hair cuts were stolen from 1950..11:50
blue_thank you ccooke , for a second there i was in doubt11:50
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blue_would i have to do a dist-upgrade or a normal upgrade would get my RC to final11:50
blue_?11:50
Hendricblue_, yes..11:50
Hendricas i am doing11:50
JohnFluxI'm running hoary - will this breezy release affect me at all?11:50
Ngblue_: you only need to do a dist-upgrade if a normal upgrade is telling you it's holding things back and you don't want it to11:51
NgJohnFlux: only if you upgrade to breezy11:51
g0rd0nfuck you all you lame bastards11:51
cafuego_!ops11:51
ubotuops is probably Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth11:51
aftertaf!ops11:51
HendricJohnFlux, it will... gives you the feeling of being left behind.11:51
mustard5JohnFlux, no11:51
cafuego_aftertaf: you lose11:51
aftertafhehe11:51
Yetr2g0rd0n, only with proper protection11:51
woldgood morning! (bom dia!)11:51
g0rd0nsorry, it was my cat11:52
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Yetr2g0rd0n, your can can use IRC!?11:52
mustard5JohnFlux, hoary is supported for another 12 months11:52
Hendric*cat\11:52
Yetr2close enough11:52
Hendriclolx11:52
Gardaguys. how do i register my nick on freenode11:52
blue_msttcorefonts seems to be back in the repos :D11:52
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HendricGarda, /ns register password11:52
g0rd0nit can even do blowjobs11:52
aftertafg0rd0n:  this is a public help channel.... you should avoid outbursts like that, ok?11:52
aftertafg0rd0n:  serious.11:52
Yetr2Garda, '/msg nickserv register <password>;11:53
g0rd0nmy doctor says i should expose my emotions11:53
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Hendricg0rd0n, can your cat unban you just incase?11:53
Yetr2g0rd0n, that is what closets are for.11:53
mustard5!op11:53
ubotuNot a clue, mustard511:53
rikaibreezy comes out tomorrow? :o11:53
benkong2anyone tell me how to find out if firefox has more than one process running? When I start FF it says choose another profile because default is already running. But its not.11:53
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aftertafg0rd0n:  not on a public help channel, where you can have kids on here too.11:53
HendricYetr2, /msg nickserv is not secure11:54
JohnFluxNg: how do I upgrade to breezy? do I simply replace hoary with breezy in /et/apt/sources and dist-upgrade ?  should I wait till tomorrow till I do that?11:54
Hendricyeah! we have kids here installing breezy on a software RAID11:54
g0rd0nkids shouldnt use linux, its bad for their health11:54
aftertafJohnFlux:  you can do it now....11:54
aftertaf!breezy11:54
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:54
Yetr2Hendric, neither is using unencrypted IRC.... but that doesn't seem to bother anyone...11:54
Ngbenkong2: "ps auwx | grep firefox" will show any running processes, it could just be you need to remove the "lock" file from your firefox profile11:54
rikaig0rd0n: i fear the opposite is true.11:54
benkong2Ng thanks11:54
NgJohnFlux: that's exactly how you upgrade and at this point, yes, you might as well wait :)11:54
blue_benkong2, that happened to me once ... it seems that if firefox crashes, the profile is locked even though it isn't running any longer11:54
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HendricYetr2, just incase you do a typo on the nickserv thing.... /ns won't send it to other people11:55
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g0rd0ni salute you11:55
NgJohnFlux: see the ubotu link too, it has some hints for post-upgrade things11:55
GardaYetr2: thanks11:55
blue_what i do is delete the profile files ... except those that i want to keep (bookmarks and stuff)11:55
benkong2soooo where is the profile in my home dir?11:55
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JohnFluxng: thanks11:55
rikaig0rd0n: so you're saying all these child cancer patients got there by installing linux then...? :o11:55
Yetr2Hendric, not all irc applications support /ns11:55
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ubuntu_hi how r u all11:55
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g0rd0nrikai: no, thats because god is a pig11:55
Ngbenkong2: .mozilla/firefox/ usually, then there will be a uniquely named directory in there with your profile in it11:55
Hendrichmm... 90% thou11:55
rikaig0rd0n, ah, makes sense.11:56
aftertafg0rd0n:  if you want to talk non ubuntu crap go to ubuntu-offtopic11:56
ajmitch_g0rd0n: enough of the trolling11:56
aftertafand wathc the language please11:56
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Hendricg0rd0n, the god pig created you from his own image..11:56
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psycodeHello, I've updated from hoary to breezy (using apt-get) and now I'm experiencing some problems. mainly, the system can't find some icons (like the gnome-home icon) and also nautilus looks really ugly (icons again) -- any ideas ?11:57
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Hendricpsycode, grab a theme from gnome.org and it should dress things up\11:58
blue_firestarter ruins my upload speed11:58
Hendricblue_, i usually don't use it since im not in pentagon11:58
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blue_it lowers it by 10 kb/s but strangly it doesn't affect the download speed, !!!11:59
sorush20is there a really good ftp for kde..11:59
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RedGhostmy ubuntu is broked, i cant open firefox it crashes, i cant upgrade anything11:59
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AES_24_96do I want to install the BRUB boot loader to the master boot record? it says it sees winxp as well11:59
Hendricblue_, maybe it disallows you for DDosing someone.. hehe11:59
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psycodeHendric, can't i apt-get it11:59
psycode?11:59
AES_24_96GRUB I mean11:59
ubuntu_want help on cacti11:59
Doofyhelp, my new hoary install won't boot, all i get is a blank screen11:59
ubuntu_want help on cacti12:00
ubuntu_want help on cacti12:00
aftertafubuntu_:  dont spam12:00
Hendricah... there theme packages on apt-get.. but gnome.org got more choices12:00
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cafuego_ubuntu_: sudo apt-get installc acti; cd /usr/share/doc/cacti; ls12:00
ccookeubuntu_: Every time you repeat like that, you reduce the number of people willing to help you.12:00
HendricDoofy, broken install i guess12:00
ubuntu_oh man sorry12:00
psycodeHendric, is that something new ? (btw - what version of gnome does breezy have ?)12:01
ubuntu_any one make graph trngo on cacti?12:01
Hendricgnome 2 something i guess12:01
aftertafpsycode:  2.1212:01
Hendricthere it is12:01
Doofysigh!12:01
HendricDoofy, don't blink during install and observe for errors while doing so...12:02
Hendrica blank screen can't get 91112:03
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Ngwhat on earth does that mean?!12:03
Hendricdin't understand too :(12:03
Doofythe last screen i see is the one that says to remove the cd and let the system reboot12:03
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HendricDoofy, have you encountered errors which lets you continue thou?12:04
DoofyHmmm?12:04
Hendricbefore you came up on that reboot thing...12:04
NgDoofy: he's asking if you had any errors from the installer at all? even ones it let you skip and continue12:05
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mrdeathhello all12:05
Nghe/she I mean to say ;)12:05
Hendricwoah... a she Hendric wouldn't be nice12:05
mrdeathis usplash works in breezy now?12:05
mrdeathi can't get it work12:05
Hendricmrdeath, it should out of the box12:05
DoofyNo errors reported, just went smoothly12:06
HendricDoofy,  then it should boot...12:06
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Hendricif it doesn't have errors and it doesn't work at all... then thats weird12:07
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Doofymaybe I should set the whatsitname to high12:07
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HendricDoofy, you get a blank screen when booting? no warnings or errors at all??12:08
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Hendricno grub error 12 or something?12:08
mrdeathHendric: i've recreate initrd with mkinitramfs command and reboot. no usplash12:08
mrdeathno errors12:08
mrdeathi'm using lilo boot loader12:08
Hendricmrdeath, no idea.... grub here12:08
mrdeathvga=normal12:08
Hendrici lie lowed from lilo12:09
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mrdeathHendric: it seems that grub don't want to work with xfs fs12:09
mrdeaththat why i use lilo12:09
Hendricah..  reiserfs is better..12:09
znhHendric, ext3 is more secure with data, but if it comes to speed reiserfs is the one12:10
mrdeathi saw few crashed of reiser ... that why i afraid a little to use it12:10
locomortoznh: not really12:10
locomortoznh: there the same12:10
znhlocomorto, nope12:10
locomortoznh: maybe your thinking of Reizer4?12:10
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znhlocomorto, nope.. I had a server with reiserfs, data was corrupting after a few years12:11
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locomortoznh: its called a hard drive12:11
znhlocomorto, since I am using ext3 its way more stable12:11
locomortoznh: you know they fail eventually12:12
znhlocomorto, reiserfs is a filesystem :>12:12
DoofyI've run the install 4 times, it partitions, set language, KB, copy files, then says remove CD and let system rebbot to ubuntu, then the computer reboots and i get a blank screen with a flashing cursor12:12
locomortoznh: point in case12:12
Hendricwith ext3 i reinstalled after 3-4 brownouts... with reiserFS.. never ever!12:12
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znhlocomorto, they do.. but after putting ext3 on it, it was fine again.. not hardware releated12:12
Hendrici believe in real experiences than other peoples review..12:13
znhI believe in my own experiences :))12:14
Hendricwell :) you are not alone..12:14
Hendric*michael jackson12:14
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mrdeathno luck12:14
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Hendricznh, i can't even believe that a usb device can cause a synaptic error... weird.12:15
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mrdeath12:16
mrdeath[WWW]  UPower is a next generation bootsplash for linux systems. It needs no patches and it's installed like a normal package, make your boot process eye-candy with Upower!12:16
mrdeathubuntu plans to to change usplash to upower?12:16
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mrdeathjust found a record at ubuntu wiki12:17
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loplah there! can u tell me a web page where i can see the packets i could get using aptittude?12:17
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rob_lopla, use: apt-cache search <packagename>12:17
aftertaflopla:  install synaptic and see locally :)12:17
rob_lopla, or use synaptic or gnome-app-install12:17
Hendricthere is a group of people who's trying to run windows drivers on linux.. cool!12:18
rob_or even the web page12:18
loplathx!12:18
loplaim so noob :(12:18
loplai have another silly question12:18
rob_Hendric, that seems pointless12:18
loplaif i want to go to terminal using keystrokes, i use alt f112:18
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Hendricrob_, just stating12:18
loplabut how can i go back to gnome?12:18
aftertaflopla:  alt + F712:19
loplai tried startx but it said, obviously, that another session on X was running12:19
loplaok thx12:19
lopla:)12:19
AES_24_96I made it on!!!12:19
aftertafs'ok ;)12:19
AES_24_96Im on linnux!12:19
aftertafbrb12:19
loplaand yet another question ( i just installed ubuntu)12:19
aftertafwelldone AES_24_96 :)12:19
AES_24_96thank you12:19
loplai think it didnt ask me for a root password12:19
AES_24_96Im going to go see if windows still runs and then Ill be back12:19
rob_ubotu, tell lopla about sudo12:20
loplabut i go write su on terminal, it asks for a password which i do not know12:20
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deFrysklopla, use sudo12:20
deFryskpasswd is your local passwd12:20
rob_lopla, you need to use sudo instead of the root account, check out that link that ubotu gave you12:20
loplaok checking it12:20
loplawhat is sudo anyway?12:20
loplanah let me just read it12:21
deFrysklopla, read it12:21
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loplayup12:21
rob_lopla, or if your using breezy, just check out the ubuntu faq guide, under section "users administration"12:21
loplaok one more question i have just seen on ubuntu and same happened on other linux disb i used12:21
loplait seems that suddenly12:21
loplamy connection to the dns dies12:22
loplaas i can connect as u see to irc but i cant surf now12:22
loplahave u any idea why this might be? im using a router12:22
rob_lopla, go to System -> Administration -> Networking12:22
rob_lopla, then add your DNS servers ip address on the DNS tab12:23
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loplaok let me try12:23
loplaon that tab i have the adrees of my router, 192.168.1.112:24
loplai think this should work anyway,roght?12:24
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xuniluserAnyone using oomath2 ?12:24
rob_lopla, it won't work for all sites12:24
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akochihai i am new here12:24
AES_24_96ok windows is stil working fine12:24
rob_lopla, you need to get the DNS ip from your ISP12:24
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AES_24_96now how do I get my dual monitors working?12:24
Hendriclopla, how about using DHCP?12:25
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rob_mmm... acronyms12:25
Hendricinstead of static ip..12:25
AES_24_96oh BTW internet setup was paionless! lol I just realized I got on gaim and irc without having to set up ANYTHING!12:25
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rob_if your isp is using dhcp that will work too12:25
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AES_24_96I have an nvidia geforce card, do I need to find drivers for it?12:26
akochii am install ubuntu but its very slow12:27
AES_24_96friggin system found my rme audio cards!12:27
AES_24_96this is AWESOME!12:27
HendricAES_24_96, run synaptic.. find the nvidia-glx12:27
intelikeyi broke it !   :)12:27
xuniluserIs there an apt-get like app that would download an application and later install it to another machine?12:27
Hendricthen sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:27
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intelikeylogin fails  before it asks for a passwd    sudo & su same thing.12:28
ccookexuniluser: ... that would depend on how many dependencies an application has, and whether the second machine had the same things.12:28
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benedettohi12:28
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benedettoi need help12:28
ccookexuniluser: apt-get handles dependencies for you. If you install offline on another machine, you'll need to provide all the packages needed yourself.12:29
intelikeyanyone want to tackle this one ?12:29
tucozHi, I am looking for the lame encoder in ubuntu breezy. Do you know where to find this?12:29
ccookexuniluser: you *can* do it, but it may take you a little work.12:29
spockboyhi. i keep getting messages "Out of memory: Killed process <foo>", yet i still have *some* memory free. how low does memory get before the kernel starts killing processes?12:29
sarefobenedetto: you should see a doctor :)12:29
rob_!info lame12:29
ubotulame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB12:29
benedettoi have removed for mistake the application bar situated on the top12:29
sarefoor is it something about ubuntu you want to know? :)12:29
benedettohow can restore it12:29
benedetto?12:29
daxxar!info mplayer-68612:30
ubotumplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB12:30
sareforemoved, or minimized?12:30
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benedettoremoved12:30
benedettoi have pressed remove bar12:30
daxxar!deps mplayer-68612:30
ubotudaxxar: Do they come in packets of five?12:30
benedettoor similar12:30
daxxar!dependencies mplayer-68612:30
ubotudaxxar: Are you smoking crack?12:30
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akochican i install yahoo massenger12:30
daxxarI am :|12:30
sarefodon't know, i'm using kde12:30
xuniluserccooke: is there a way wherein i have to download the dependencies only needed by a freshly-installed Ubuntu (hoary)12:30
benedettocan someone else help me?12:31
Hendricakochi, there is a broken version from yahoo12:31
intelikeybenedetto right click and put it back.12:31
Hendricakochi, gaim is better.. gaim-vv even better.. gyach-e the best12:31
tucozrob_: the problem is that I am running breezy, and I do not seem to be able to find multiverse for breezy12:31
benedettoisn't impossible because on right click there is no a option12:31
rob_tucoz, you need to add repositories12:31
rob_!repos12:31
ubotumethinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:31
ccookexuniluser: actually, yes. But I'd only recommend it if you're going to do this a *lot*12:31
tucozrob_: thanks.12:31
intelikeybenedetto right click on the lower bar12:32
akochigyach-e where i found12:32
rob_np12:32
Hendricpeople really wanted the best..12:32
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Hendricakochi, its not officially supported by ubuntu... might break your system12:32
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benedettoso i'll press new bar? ins't it?12:32
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xuniluserccooke: ok "how"? thanks12:32
Hendricakochi, but it worked fine for me in breezy and hoary12:33
sphivospockboy: You can have a decent amount of memory free, but unusable because of memory fragmentation.12:33
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pinucsethow can i install a .deb please?12:33
ccookexuniluser: right. There's a tool called debootstrap, which will build you a complete ubuntu system inside a directory.12:33
Hendricpinucset, dpkg -i package.deb12:33
intelikeybenedetto you can also restore defaults from somewhere in system > desktop12:33
Hendricpinucset, sudo dpkg -i package.deb12:33
ccookexuniluser: it's the same tool used by the installer.12:33
ccookexuniluser: so, what you would do is:12:33
akochii want print from ubuntu to winxp pc ,how to it12:33
benedettohum12:34
pinucsetad -i packaje.deb what i write?12:34
AES_24_96I am at nvidia driver page, and I need to choose which os, and there are 3 for linnux12:34
benedettoi solve it12:34
benedettothanks a lot12:34
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intelikeybenedetto good job.12:34
AES_24_96is it linnux ia32?12:34
ccookexuniluser: sudo apt-get install debootstrap12:34
benedettoi'm sorryu12:34
benedettoanother information12:34
melvztechiehow to run now cacti if i installed, do i need to configure it first?12:34
ccookexuniluser: then, you need to make your scratch-ubuntu:12:34
benedettohow can i install wine in ubuntu?12:34
pinucseti do sudo dpkg -i yafray_0.0.8-1exr_i386.deb12:35
Hendrici got a nooby question.. what are debootstraps for??12:35
pinucset and it doesnt works :S12:35
benedettothe system says that the package is obsolete12:35
ikerdoes anyone know the user used by the apache webserver in Ubuntu?12:35
intelikeybenedetto "apt-get install wine "12:35
ccookexuniluser: pick a directory - say, /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu12:35
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Hendricpinucset, whats d error?12:35
benedettoyes12:35
benedettoi've tried12:35
Hendric!debootstrap12:35
ubotuHendric: No idea12:35
pinucsetdpkg: s'ha produt un error en processar yafray_0.0.8-1exr_i386.deb (--install):12:35
pinucset no es pot accedir a l'arxiu: El fitxer o directori no existeix12:35
pinucsetS'han trobat errors en processar:12:35
pinucset yafray_0.0.8-1exr_i386.deb12:35
benedettobut it give me an errore12:35
ccookexuniluser: sudo debootstrap hoary /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/12:35
ccookexuniluser: that'll go off and install a system.12:36
rgrigguys, any idea with this problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74249 . Basically the sound doesn't work and I get no error message to figure out what is wrong. (and it doesn't seem to be a mixer issue)12:36
benedettolike package obsolete12:36
pinucsetse ha producido un error en procesar yafray, no se puede accedir al archivo: el archivo o directorio no existe12:36
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Hendricpinucset, you CD first to the directory that contains the .deb package12:36
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ccookexuniluser: but only the base system12:36
pinucsetah ok!12:36
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ccookexuniluser: when it's done, you need to copy /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/apt/sources.list to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/etc/resolv.conf and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/etc/apt/sources.list12:37
ccookexuniluser: then:12:37
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ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ apt-get update12:37
ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:37
pinucsetit says yafray depens of libopenexr2 (>= 1.2.2); and libopenexr2 isnt installed?12:37
sarefowhat do i have to do to restore grub? i started installing windoze, and of course it killed grub.12:37
kbrooksccooke: STOP12:37
kbrooksccooke: think again12:37
xuniluserccooke: after that, apt-get will get now the dependencies based on the scratch-ubuntu?12:37
sarefoi can access the machine with knoppix.12:37
intelikeyhmmm benedetto i don't know then. maybe check which source you have set in "apt-setup" and make sure that you use correct ubuntu sources.12:37
ccookegah, wrong paste.12:37
ccookesorry.12:37
benedettook12:38
benedettothanks again12:38
ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get update12:38
akochii want print from ubuntu to winxp pc ,how to it12:38
ccookeand12:38
intelikeyany time.12:38
ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:38
ccookekbrooks: thanks!12:38
kbrooksccooke: np12:38
kbrooksccooke: and sorry for those caps12:38
ccookexuniluser: sorry about the mistake there12:38
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ccookexuniluser: okay. So now you have ubuntu hoary in a directory.12:39
Crys_Ubu_PCAES_24_96, You got yourself up?12:39
ccookexuniluser: you still can't use it, though.12:39
ccookexuniluser: you want to use it for dependencies and downloads.12:39
xuniluserccooke: that was overwhelming! great help you are of *yoda*12:39
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akochii want print from ubuntu to winxp pc ,how to it12:40
ccookexuniluser: now, the first thing to do is clear the download cache - you'll be using that to get your new packages.12:41
ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get clean12:41
kbrooksccooke: umm.12:41
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ccookexuniluser: and then, you want to *back it up*, because this will have taken a while to run :-)12:41
kbrookssudo chroot /bin/bash is better as it gets you in a shell12:41
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benedettoand to change the default os to boot12:41
benedetto?12:41
ccookekbrooks: yes, but each command in sudo means there's no confusion which ubuntu you're running in.12:42
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akochisamba config how to12:42
ccookekbrooks: I'm trying to stick to the safest options12:42
GNAMwhat's TIME of final release?12:42
kbrooksccooke: ok. ;)12:42
ccookexuniluser: so, you should tar it all up:12:42
erickdoes anyone know postfix? can I used it12:42
kbrooksGNAM: time?12:42
GNAMyes12:42
GNAMdatetime12:42
xuniluserccooke: probably how much disk space do i have to prepare for this? (rough estimate)12:42
GNAMnot date12:42
deFryskGNAM, in what timeszone time would you like12:43
ccookexuniluser: sudo tar cjf /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu.tar.bz2 /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu12:43
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kbrooksGNAM: for seveas, he says it is noon12:43
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GNAMas you prefer, deFrysk12:43
ccookexuniluser: hmm. A full ubuntu is under 2 gig. The tar will add maybe another 700M12:43
mahangumplayer is driving me nuts12:43
mahanguno sound12:43
deFryskGNAM, noon but not shure where ;p12:43
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kbrooksGNAM: he lives in netherlands12:43
ccookexuniluser: off the top of my head, 2.5G will be *plenty*12:43
GNAMauuausd12:43
ccookexuniluser: maybe less12:43
xuniluserccooke: hmmmm ok.... Thank you very much12:44
mahangusound on mplayer anyone?12:44
GNAMsurely i'll download DVD12:44
ccookexuniluser: okay. So, if you do this, you'll have a clean hoary install, and a backup in case it goes wrong.12:44
ccookexuniluser: here's how you use that to get packages and their dependencies:12:44
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xuniluserccooke: ok. :)12:44
ccookexuniluser: *first* thing: clean the apt-cache again, just in case you forgot to last time.12:44
ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get clean12:45
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ccookexuniluser: Then, download the packages:12:45
Paradoxxwill it b ok  4 me to just upgrade to breezy when its released, or do u all recommend a clean install?12:45
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ccookexuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get -d install yourpackagename12:45
kbrooksccooke: do you want to guide me through on a clean breezy install in a pm? :)12:45
ccookexuniluser: -d means 'just download it'12:45
CrubeBreezy! Breezy!12:45
kbrooksccooke: better yet12:46
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kbrookswrite a guide12:46
CrubeI was upgrading my Ubuntu and it went black O_o12:46
ccookexuniluser: after you do that, *all* the packages you need will be in /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu/var/cache/apt/archives/12:46
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rikaiParadoxx: as long as you didnt screw up hoary(like i have, hence the anxiousness for breezy), than an upgrade should be fine. :P12:46
kbrooksCrube: thats normal12:46
Crubekbrooks ok good :D12:46
Paradoxxkk12:46
ccookexuniluser: just copy them out, get them to the remote hoary machine and run dpkg -i *.deb on them12:46
ccookexuniluser: okay?12:46
kbrooksCrube: the monitor gets black after X seconds12:46
Paradoxxcan't wait....12:47
kbrooksfill in X12:47
Renskicant you guys wait 24 hours?12:47
Paradoxxeven though i gots no hd space left12:47
Paradoxxlol12:47
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kbrooksCrube: sometimes i freak out12:47
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cafuego_Renski: omg! no! Must! Have! New! STuff! Now!12:47
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Paradoxxhmm, think i might delete my windows partition today12:47
ccookekbrooks: heh. if I have time :-)12:47
Yetr2AES_24_96, what videocard manufacture?12:47
CrubeParadoxx what did you do?12:47
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kbrooksRenski: breezy isnt closed to testers - thats why the repos are open12:48
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ccookexuniluser: clear on everything?12:48
Yetr2hmm...12:48
Paradoxxlittle by little, i been converting my NTFS partitions to ext2/3...12:48
Yetr2weird12:48
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Paradoxxbut today you last of it might go12:48
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Paradoxx:D12:48
rikai*the12:48
kbrooksRenski: ubuntu embraces the open source philosophy12:48
CrubeParadoxx did you have anything important on it?12:48
Renskikbrooks: I understand that12:48
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Paradoxxnt really, i backed up everything as i made transition12:49
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CrubeI've deleted my windows partition many times.12:49
Renski...but how 24 hours? Is there really much point? anything you find may be fixed.12:49
kbrookswindows sucks12:49
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CrubeAnd what I've done more times, is deleting the 8mb mbr12:49
kbrooksRenski: "but how 24 hours" < rephrase12:49
CrubeAnd that's no fun.12:50
DaveHi! Currently i have installed Win XP on my computer (i only have one hard drive), and I want to install Ubuntu and be able to select which operating system to use when switching on the computer. I've heard about problems with dual booting Linux and Win, but it's my only option. Do I have to do something especial in Ubuntu's installation to not compromise Windows partition? My hard drive is 200 GB, 140 of which are dedicated to Win and 60 are free s12:50
Renskis/but how 24/but 24/12:50
Crubekbrooks windows does suck, that's true12:50
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ParadoxxWindows is greats os...12:50
Paradoxx!windows12:50
ubotuwell, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative12:50
tuesday23hi12:50
Yetr2Dave, read about resizing ntfs partitions12:51
neboany ppc user here? how can i turn of the speedstepping for ppc?12:51
CrubeDave if you install Ubuntu on the other partition it will create it's own boot record and you can choose the OS when you boot your computer. It's no problem if it's partitioned. I've bad problems with 2 hard drives, but never with a partition12:51
Yetr2windows doesn't support xen yet.12:51
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Paradoxxxen?12:51
Yetr2right now only linux & BSD support xen12:52
Daveok, so the 60 GB of free space will be detected in Ubuntu's installation with no problem at all?12:52
Renskixen?12:52
bimberiDave: yes it should12:52
Yetr2ubotu well, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative12:52
ubotuYetr2: what are you talking about?12:52
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bimberiDave: grub will initially be set up to boot Ubuntu by default but you can change that easily if required12:53
xuniluserccooke: crystal12:53
CrubeDave yes. But be careful not to wipe the whole hard drive during the installation. You can do that easily if you choose the wrong option, so be careful what you do.12:53
Renskihehe, some should port wine to windows.12:53
Renski*someone12:53
ccookexuniluser: good!12:53
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kbrooksxen...12:53
Yetr2noone has bothered to make Xen drivers for windows yet.12:53
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aftertafRenski:  lots of us have been on breezy for weeks already12:53
pip-does anybody know how to get european weatherforecast in my calendar in Evolution?12:53
Daveok, so the option to select during installation is to manually edit the partition tables?12:53
Renskiaftertaf: yeah, but im planning to downloading the disk, and helping a friend get away from BSD and pink tie12:53
Renskiso we'll upgrade our lappys together12:54
VoXwho do i complain to about package maintainers repeatedly breaking glx?12:54
aftertafRenski:  then wait and get the official iso when released ;)12:54
RenskiI am12:54
CrubeDave yes you can manually choose where you install ubuntu. It's easy. You can do it during theinstallation.-12:54
Renskiwaiting, and waiting...and waiting12:54
Yetr2vmware and qume actually require a valid windows license to use, as it is starting up a real copy of M$ Windows...12:54
Renskibreezy, breezy, breezy, breezy, breezy, badger! badger!12:55
Daveand the free space available will be shown as 'Free Space' or something like that in the partition table?12:55
Yetr2Dave, no12:55
cafuego_google://badger+mushroom+snake12:55
Yetr2err, no to manually editing the partition tables dave12:55
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rikaii dont quite understand Xen ;;<12:56
VoXany way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl?12:56
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CrubeDave you will get to choose which partition to install Ubuntu on. It will be formatted before installing. So if you have that 60gb, you can choose to install ubuntu on it, and you will be able to boot to Windows too if you really want ( i don't know why you want that )12:56
Renskiwas the install interface upgrade at all in breezy?12:57
VoXanyone?12:57
erickhow can I unpack a file with .rar extention12:57
benedettosomeone can tell me what is it vino?12:57
CrubeDave if you don't mess anything up, your Windows partition will not be wiped, and booting Windows and Ubuntu is easy.12:57
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bimberibenedetto: vnc server for gnome, allows remote control of your desktop12:58
benedettoah ok12:59
Davewell, i'm not the only user in the computer, so I really need to maintain Win (of course, if the pc were mine, I would use Linux only). My main doubt is if in the installation process it is clearly shown the free space available for Ubuntu (to not erase Windows).12:59
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bimberierick: install unrar (or unrar-nonfree)12:59
CrubeDave if you have 2 eyes you will have no problem :)12:59
bimberi... and use them to read carefully :)01:00
Daveok :)01:00
k4mykwhat about hours is new relase?01:00
TChello, can anybody help me?01:00
Davebtw, a new version will appear tomorrow, won't it?01:00
CzarAlexTC, did you ask your question?01:00
RenskiTC: you'll have to give us a few more details than that01:00
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bimberiDave: yes (although it's just gone Oct 13 in NZ :) )01:01
k4myktell the time when is relase a new ubuntu?01:01
k4mykin poland ;)01:01
CzarAlexI don't even know what time it is here, let alone Poland :)01:01
TCdoes anybody know where you can change the users permissons01:01
ajmitch_bimberi: sure, but that doesn't really change things :)01:02
benedettohow can i configure bootloader?01:02
aftertafk4myk:  there will be an official announcement when it is released, on the chanel and in the mailing lists01:02
Daveok, i'll wait for it, here in spain it's 13:00 pm, Oct 1201:02
TCthe thing is that I can not open my gnome-terminal01:02
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RenskiWe want to know when, down to the minute, when we can get breezy! (in GMT)01:02
Davethank you very much for your help, much aprecciated :)01:02
ajmitch_Renski: when it's released01:02
aftertafRenski:  you can get it already :P01:02
hejuxnice!01:03
RenskiI want the final ISO01:03
bimberiajmitch_: ha, i thought that http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ might look different for you now :)01:03
ajmitch_bimberi: that would be rather silly01:03
VoXanyone?01:03
bimberii know, and will stop being so :)01:03
aftertafVoX:  dont know.....01:04
aftertafVoX:  tried apt-get -f install?01:04
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VoXaftertaf: there's nothing to force01:04
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VoXaftertaf: everything has installed "correctly", but the "correct" install has broken opengl01:05
bimberiTC: permissions on a file? right click in nautilus, Properties, Permissions tab01:05
bimberiTC: or the chmod command01:06
VoXaftertaf: tho, technically it's not opengl, it's drm that has been broken01:06
poningru!faq01:06
uboturumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/01:06
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CzarAlexwill I need to do a system restart when upgrading to breezy?01:06
rikaii clicked the "United States" relase mirror, which sent me to...01:06
rikaihttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ <- is it out? o.O01:06
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GNAMcandidate01:07
GNAMno.01:07
kbrooksno01:07
kbrookstomo4rrow01:07
rikaiRC = PR? :o01:07
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Skidrelease candidate01:07
Renskirikai: pretty much01:07
GNAMRC=shit01:07
kbrooksGNAM: no01:07
rikaiRenski: ah.01:07
GNAMassaasu01:07
aftertafCzarAlex:  yes to benefit from kernel update, otherwise, not necessarily01:07
kbrooksrikai: RC != PR01:07
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CzarAlexaftertaf, alrighty. thanks.01:08
kbrooksaftertaf: in general yes01:08
kbrooksCzarAlex: yes reboot01:08
hejuxabout FVWM?01:08
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hejuxFVWM powerful?01:08
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marcus^hi01:08
kbrooksrikai: PR = Prerelease01:08
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marcus^is breezy released tomorrow?01:08
=== ajmitch_ wonders if there's any last minute breezy universe bugs that can be quickly fixed
kbrookswhich is what the colony releases were01:08
Renskimarcus^: yes01:09
kbrooksajmitch_: not really01:09
kbrooksmarcus^: yes01:09
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ajmitch_kbrooks: why do you say that?01:09
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rikaikbrooks: PR = Preview Release, technichally.01:09
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kbrooksmarcus^: breezy has many new features01:09
kbrooksmarcus^: like this01:09
kbrooks!faq01:09
ubotusomebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/01:09
kbrooksmarcus^: on it atm01:10
marcus^!faq01:10
kbrooksajmitch_:01:10
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kbrooksbreezy is supposed to be frozen01:10
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kbrooksnot sure01:10
ajmitch_kbrooks: not universe yet01:10
marcus^kbrooks: like what?01:10
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kbrooksmarcus^: read what the bot says01:10
ajmitch_kbrooks: since I just got 3 uploads in a few minutes ago01:10
kbrooksajmitch_: who are you?01:11
nrbqI can't nmap to install via apt-get01:11
bimberiajmitch_: :)01:11
nrbqAnyone else having this problem?01:11
marcus^"someone said that 25 seconds ago" :P01:11
ajmitch_kbrooks: I'm ajmitch_, of course :)01:11
marcus^!faq01:11
ubotufaq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/01:11
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kbrooksmarcus^: in here01:11
kbrooksand dont abuse it01:11
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marcus^abuse what?01:11
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bimberikbrooks: ajmitch_ is a MOTU :)01:12
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ajmitch_marcus^: don't repeatedly ask the same thing from the bot01:12
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marcus^ah01:12
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aftertafmarcus^:  if you want you can /msg ubotu for answers01:12
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marcus^Are you smoking crack?, marcus^01:12
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nrbqanyone had problems getting nmap via apt-get?01:13
sorush20how many EU contries are there again?01:13
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aftertaf2501:13
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marcus^kbrooks: why did you give me a FAQ?01:13
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ICEMAN-AMD64got a real stupid question ... win amp .... is it available for linux01:14
sorush20thanks..01:14
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MyrttiICEMAN-AMD64: xmms01:14
VoXICEMAN-AMD64: it's called xmms01:14
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marcus^i hope xmms has good audio quality?01:14
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Myrttiit's not an issue of XMMS01:15
ICEMAN-AMD64I want to tune in to internet radio ... that possible01:15
Myrttiyup01:15
nrbqis there anyway I can force a download of nmap via apt-get?01:15
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nrbqIt worked fine a few days ago when I was building a different system01:15
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ICEMAN-AMD64how hard is zmms to install on a 64 bit system .. fully functional ?01:16
ICEMAN-AMD64xmms i mean01:16
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marcus^i think i'll install Breezy tomorrow =)01:16
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GNAMdvds are released a day after.01:17
NgICEMAN-AMD64: it should be fine01:17
kbrooksmarcus^:01:17
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ICEMAN-AMD64ty01:17
kbrooksthat is one of the features of breezy01:17
marcus^why did you give me the FAQ? :P01:17
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kbrooksthe faq01:17
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juddleiHey.. I'm wondering which application you guys prefer when wanting to use "remote desktop" from ubuntu to winxp. Rdesktop? If so, must winxp also have rdesktop installed and running "server" kinda?01:17
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ICEMAN-AMD64xmms available via apt-get ?01:17
xiaogilwhere should be stored Stardict dictionaries ?01:17
marcus^kbrooks: OK, but i asked if it was released tomorrow, not the features :P01:18
nrbqjuddlei, XP has to be set to accept RDP connections01:18
NgICEMAN-AMD64: yup01:18
ICEMAN-AMD64ty again01:18
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kbrooksmarcus^: ok :P01:18
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marcus^any of you tried to run CS on ubuntu?01:19
marcus^(Counter Strike)01:19
Ngmarcus^: yes, although mostly CS:S01:19
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marcus^Ng: worked well?01:19
vengefulha i should try...its amazing how big heads are running on 800x600 on a 21" monitor01:20
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Ngmarcus^: yeah, I haven't tried it on breezy yet though01:20
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marcus^ah, thats reasonable :P01:21
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marcus^ubuntu niederland?01:21
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xiaogilSynaptics asks where has realplayer been downloaded in order to install it and gives /root by default, which doesn't work, what should i write ?01:22
vicegripdid you download realplayer?01:23
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xiaogilyes01:24
vicegripI can't recall the default directory when you apt-get things01:24
xiaogilon breezy01:24
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vicegrip...oh01:24
vicegripheh, can't help there01:24
deFryskxiaogil, thats the old version of realplayer01:24
Gardahey guys. anyone know how to connect to freenode over a proxy that lets only port 8080, is there mabey an odd server out there listening for irc requests on that port01:25
xiaogildeFrysk: why is it here then ? and what's the name of the last version ?01:25
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Madeyeguys will -d work with dist-upgrade ?01:25
ajmitch_Madeye: yes01:25
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deFryskxiaogil, http://realplayer.com/linux is the last version01:25
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deFryskxiaogil, I downloaded the rpm01:26
deFryskxiaogil, converted it to a .deb with alien01:26
deFryskxiaogil, symlinker realplay to /usr/bin01:26
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deFrysksimlinked*01:27
marcus^is the apache default configuration file allright, or should i edit something there?01:27
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xiaogildeFrysk: i prefer to have an older version that is automatically upgraded01:27
marcus^and what FTPd is the best one? (just for the performance.. i want to be able to jail users and stuff)01:27
deFryskand copied the plugin in the realplayfolder/mozilla/ to the pluginfolder of mozilla-firefox01:27
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deFryskxiaogil, that version is antiquated and I wonder why its inthere actually01:28
[Spooky] anyone know how to change the smtp port in Evolution ?01:28
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HobartI'm dist-upgrading the Hoary box I'm on to Breezy now, any known issues besides the wiki page?01:28
deFryskHobart, read the upgradenotes, see /topic01:29
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HobartdeFrysk -> That's what I meant by "besides the wiki page"01:30
fryfrogis it possible to go from i386 -> x86_64 by changing my deb source.list?01:30
benedettoplease how can i automount a ntfs partition?01:30
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aftertaf!mount01:31
ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives01:31
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deFryskHobart, one thing i did : and that is accepting all new settings when asked and not leave the default settings in01:31
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HobartdeFrysk -> roger wilco, thanks01:31
aftertafbenedetto:  type /msg ubotu mount   (in this chan)01:31
SGershon /msg ubotu mount01:31
aftertaf!tell benedetto about windowsdrives01:31
aftertafeasier..... being lame, sorry :)01:32
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benedettothanks01:32
aftertaf:)01:33
[Spooky] anyone know how to change the smtp port in Evolution ?01:33
locomortoSpooky: yes01:34
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iceman-AMD64now how to get internet radio with xmms01:34
[Spooky] yep got it01:34
locomortoSpooky: for exaple if your server is mail.locomorto.com01:34
locomortoSpooky: use mail.locomorto.com:<port>01:34
locomortoSpooky: eg mail.locomorto.com:2601:34
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LaserLineHello all01:35
LaserLineDoes Xubuntu have a menu editing program such as SMEG  ?01:35
LaserLineAnd does it come with a package manager ?01:35
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iceman-AMD64how to get xmms to play internet radio >01:36
dbugasudo apt-get install xmms01:36
dbug*sudo01:36
thoreauputiciceman-AMD64: easy way is to install streamtuner and use its index of shoutcast etc01:36
vengefullaserline, on breezy?01:37
vengefulsystems, Applications Menu Editor should work?01:37
LaserLinevengeful yeah.01:37
iceman-AMD64can u get streamtuner via aptget01:37
LaserLinevengeful I checkt packages.ubuntu.com and saw synaptic. but I didn't find any Menu Editor01:38
vengefulits already installed01:38
vengefulor should be01:38
vengefulclick on system01:38
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vengefulwhat do you see in there01:38
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LaserLinevengeful I'm asking, I haven't installed yet... :-)01:39
vengefuloh01:39
vengefulthen yes it does01:39
vengefulwhen you get to desktop click system01:39
vengefuland its there01:39
LaserLinevengeful I have XFCE4 desktop installed on Hoary, and it was kinda pain to edit menus..01:39
vengefuli have xfce4 on breezy01:39
vengefulright click, system, applications menu editor01:40
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LaserLinevengeful and does it have integrated sound like gnome has (notification?)  ?01:40
vengefulintegrated sound for what?01:40
crimsunXfce doesn't distribute a sound daemon01:40
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crimsunits purpose is to remain lightweight01:40
LaserLinevengefil What crimsun said...01:40
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LaserLinecrimsun but if I use firefox or media players, will I hear sound ?01:41
crimsunyes01:41
LaserLinecrimsun it'll use the Alsa layer or ESD ?01:41
crimsunXfce doesn't care01:41
crimsunit's your applications that care01:41
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LaserLinecrimsun There is no Multimedia system selector ?01:41
iceman-AMD64shoot ... why i never have devoted myself to linux ...01:41
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crimsunno, remember the whole "don't care about sound daemon" bit?01:41
LaserLinecrimsun (that's good) becuase Gnome's ESD in hoary crashes on me..01:42
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iceman-AMD64getting everything to work01:42
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LaserLineHey funkyHat :-)01:42
funkyHathey :)01:42
LaserLinecrimsun :p: !01:42
LaserLinecrimsun LoL !01:42
zygisLaserLine, if it crashes with GNOME it will crash with any other environment out there01:42
zygisLaserLine, simply don't use it with your applications01:43
gsuvegre01:43
iceman-AMD64Try      to just get internet radio set ... no ppppoint and click ,,, to much configurations bull ...01:43
LaserLinezygis yeah, it's an ollllld hardware. I do, but sometimes I hear a small skerk from the speakers and then ESD uses 100% CPU and I have to kill it from TTY201:43
gsuveganybody downloaded xara extreme ?01:43
deFrysknever heard of it01:44
deFryskmust be a game then01:44
zygisLaserLine, have you tried to use different sound outpu plugins in your programs (alsa, oss)?01:44
wickedpuppyits on slashdot01:44
wickedpuppynope01:44
zygis*output01:44
wickedpuppyits graphics prog01:44
LaserLinezygis yeah,01:45
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meiami01:45
iceman-AMD64how do i point shout cast to xmms01:45
LaserLinezygis I use ALSA in all programs and even in Gnome.01:45
meiamj01:45
gsuveghttp://www.xaraxtreme.org/01:45
gsuvegwickedpuppy: are you donwloaded ?01:45
iceman-AMD64where is xmms in the directories ?01:46
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funkyHaticeman-AMD64, probably /usr/bin01:46
LaserLinezygis got an idea ?01:46
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rikaiisnt there a Xubuntu(XFCE ubuntu) in the works?01:46
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rikaihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu <- indeed there is. ;)01:47
funkyHatyep01:47
iceman-AMD64dont see it in /usr/bin01:47
zygisLaserLine, you don't need one :) it'll work on any desktop environment01:48
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deFryskiceman-AMD64, perhaps install xmms first ?01:48
damo21rikai apt-get xubuntu-desktop01:48
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LaserLinezygis I mean in my Gnome...01:48
iceman-AMD64installed01:48
iceman-AMD64listed and opens01:48
funkyHatdamo21, it's apt-get install, _and_ it's only available in breezy ;)01:48
iceman-AMD64not in usr/bin01:48
rikaiLaserLine: "esound will be part of xubuntu, but it is not set up yet by default"01:48
damo21funkyhat: yeah u are right ;)01:48
deFryskthe executable should be /usr/bin/xmms iceman-AMD64 try it in your console01:48
LaserLinezygis I can't figure out this issue... It's driveing me crazy, and after I kill ESD I can't restart it (I get skwerks) and to get sound back I have to restart the laptop... the funny thing is I restart it twice a day (if I need sound)01:49
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zygis`killall -9 esd; esd' doesn't work?01:49
LaserLinedidn't try -901:49
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Shinjanhi folks01:49
LaserLinezygis what does -9 do ?01:49
damo21its brute force die01:50
iceman-AMD64need to point shoutcast to the player ...01:50
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deFryskiceman with firefox ?01:50
damo21SIGINT 9 : kill dont wait for signal handler or something01:50
LaserLinezygis what happens if I kill it witout hthe -9 ? just killall esd and then esd ?01:50
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zygisLaserLine, kill -9 sends KILL signal instead of HUP01:51
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rikaiLaserLine: -9 forces it to die essentially.01:51
zygissometimes simpe kill is not sufficient01:51
zygis*simple01:51
damo21yup01:51
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devidciao01:51
devida tutti01:51
Ngzygis: kill -9 sends KILL instead of TERM01:51
Ngzygis: HUP is a different signal01:51
devidcan i make you a question?01:52
iceman-AMD64shoot ... how to unhide xmms in usr/bin01:52
rikaiLaserLine: without -9, i believe it just tell it to die, and lets it finish what it was doing.01:52
damo21TERM gives it time to clean up its own exit01:52
fangoWould people recommend a clean install of breezy or a dust-upgrade from hoary?01:52
LaserLinezygis Where should I do the killall ? at TTY2 or just a termnial is the gnome session ?01:52
zygiserm, that's right, Ng :)01:52
deFryskiceman-AMD64, /usr/bin/xmms01:52
devidsomeone can explain me the command TOP?01:52
rikaiLaserLine: a terminal should do fine, at least it does for me.01:52
deFryskiceman-AMD64, its not hidden01:52
LaserLinerikai thanks, noted :-)01:52
zygisfrom wherever you want, e.g. ALT+F2 in GNOME, and just killall -9 esd01:53
rikaidevid: open a terminal and type: man top01:53
zygis:)01:53
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Hendricgood evning ya'll01:53
damo21devid: its like a process explorer but it puts the most cpu intensive on the top by default01:53
LaserLineI hope I won't have to reboot ofthen now :-D01:53
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fangodevid, http://www.comfsm.fm/computing/UNIX/top.html01:53
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deFryskiceman-AMD64, its /usr/bin/xmms , not usr/bin/xmms01:53
fangoWould people recommend a clean install of breezy or a dust-upgrade from hoary?01:53
rikaifango: as long as hory is working fine, you should be able to dist-upgrade, and if you have issues, you can always do a fresh install later.01:53
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iceman-AMD64my bag .. i was searching /bin/ .... not  /usr/bin/ .... thank you01:54
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rikaifango: though, i'd wait till tomorrow, when the official comes out.01:54
iceman-AMD64point shoutcast right to it and works...01:54
LaserLineIf I want to install Xubuntu on my laptop (I'll wipe the damn thing and install breezy from beginning) should I go with default installation and then install Xubuntu and use it as default or just choose server and APT-GET Xubuntu ?01:54
damo21how long will it take for bigpond australia to have the breezy file mirrored? :P01:54
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Duckbluri need help01:55
Hobbseedamo21: i think you can submit it there01:55
Hobbseehopefully, not too long01:55
RenskiDuckblur: with?01:55
Hendricdamo = weed01:55
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rikaiLaserLine: you could wait for a bit and wait for the official Xubuntu standalone to come out.01:55
DuckblurWell. I just installed Ubuntu. And I'm totally new to this linux thing.01:55
damo21weed?01:55
rikaiLaserLine: they're trying to release it ASAP.01:55
looksasuI'm trying to upgrade my half upgraded hoary/breezy setup to breezy01:55
DuckblurProblem i'm having as of now is my monitor :/01:55
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looksasubut having a problem with xrgb01:55
RenskiDuckblur: whats the problem?01:55
fangoDuckblur, whats the prob exactly?01:55
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DuckblurI screen resolution, I can't change the refresh rate from 60hz01:56
fangoDuckblur, what monitor?01:56
LaserLinerikai ASAP will be next month ?01:56
Duckbluralso, i've noticed tearing on my screen01:56
looksasuapt-get -f install complains about01:56
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looksasudpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb (--unpack):01:56
looksasu trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/showrgb', which is also in package xutils01:56
looksasuErrors were encountered while processing:01:56
looksasu /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb01:56
looksasuE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:56
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DuckblurIt's a Compaq FS74001:56
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damo21plz no pasting01:57
rikaiLaserLine: not sure, from what i read at the wiki, they're trying to get it out as close the the breezy release date(tomorrow) as possible.01:57
iceman-AMD64got to love 64 bit with ubuntu01:57
fangoDuckblur, try this it worked for me, I had a mem issue with XORg and my monitor on boot...Are you logged in currently?01:57
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Duckblurfango: Logged in on what?01:57
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LaserLinerikai I read that too, but there isn't an Xubuntu website yet, nor repo's...01:57
rikaiLaserLine: "Xfce4 has been supported in Ubuntu's universe by the MOTUXfce team since Hoary. For Breezy we want to go one step further and make Xubuntu a sibling of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu by having install and live CD images generated for it. We haven't decided on a release date, but it should be as close as possible to Breezy's and should use the latest stable Xfce 4.2.x code."01:57
iceman-AMD64now how the heck to mount my windows partition and get diablo II working in linux01:57
ccfielhello ppl01:57
fangoDuckblur, Your ubuntu box that your having issues with?01:57
VoXany way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl?01:57
devidi have to modify the priority of the process with the command top, but I don't know how01:58
ccfielhow do i install video codecs? and mp301:58
Duckblurfango: It's this one. I'm currently logged in just fine on it. I just wan't to be able to change refresh rate to 80hz.01:58
Duckblurwant'01:58
damo21can someone give me the final link for breezy01:58
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poningru!tell ccfiel about restricted formats01:58
rikaiLaserLine: you can get more info over in #xubuntu probably.01:58
poningru!tell ccfiel about multimedia01:58
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LaserLinerikai I will wait, but what will be better with Xubuntu (stand alon) then installing Breezy and then Xubuntu-desktop ?01:58
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ccfielponingru: what do you mean?01:59
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AfiefI moved from Fedora to Ubuntu and am having trouble installing new packages. any help?01:59
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poningruccfiel: dude just go to those sites they will tell you how to do it01:59
rikaiLaserLine: an http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel01:59
rikai*and01:59
poningruif you have trouble just let us know we can help01:59
fangoDuckblur, try this: CTRL+ALT+F1 , brings you to a TTY, then CTRL+ALT+F7... might sort it out, mem..#01:59
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rikaiLaserLine: err, well, you wont have all hose gnome remanans trying to take over your XFCE install. :D01:59
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transgresswhat would be the proper kernel to run on an amd64 that is running x86 ubunt01:59
transgressubuntu01:59
rikaiLaserLine: overall, its jsut much more clean and stramlined.01:59
poningrutransgress: you cant just run the kernel you have to switch the entire os02:00
ccfielponingru: ok thanks!02:00
poningrunp02:00
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rikaitransgress: why not run the amd64 installer? o.O;02:00
poningru!tell transgress about amd 6402:00
poningru!tell transgress about amd6402:00
LaserLinerikai So from what I understand, it's better to install Kubuntu Standalone instead of Ubuntu + Kubuntu desktop02:00
poningrugrrr02:00
Duckblurfango: The problem is that I can't access 80hz, it's that I don't know how.02:00
AfiefCan anybody tell me how to install new packages? Fedora used to do this easily, I can't find out how to do it in Ubuntu02:00
poningru!64bit02:01
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, poningru02:01
Duckblurfango: *not that I can't02:01
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damo21is xubuntu a released variant yet?02:01
transgressrikai because i got bored running 64bit... so i decided to put x86 on it... i'm wondering what kernel to use with it...02:01
rikaiLaserLine: pretty much, though if you want multiple DE support, than it's not so bad to install both on the same system.02:01
aehoAfief, use synaptic, System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager02:01
limguohong91Hi, how do i add more fonts to my Ubuntu system? I have the font files02:01
VoXanyone?02:01
transgressi am not wanting to make it 64bit... it's just like my athlonxp runs k7... so i'm wondering if there is a kernel i should run...02:01
LaserLineYeah I used both, because Gnome was primary, I chose Ubuntu installation and added Kubuntu.02:02
poningrutransgress: yeah search for that kernel image02:02
poningruhold on02:02
LaserLinerikai So I guess I'll install Xubuntu and add Ubuntu (sound good ?)02:02
aftertafk702:02
transgressso get k7 with amd64 on x86?02:02
thoreauputiclimguohong91: if they are ttf fonts, just type fonts:/// in nautilus and drop them in02:02
rikaiLaserLine: i suppose, its up to you really.02:02
luitetransgress: yup, works fine here :) (I use k7-smp because I have a dual core a64)02:02
limguohong91ok02:03
thoreauputiclimaunion: or put them in your $HOME/.fonts directory02:03
VoXwhy the hell not use k8 smp?02:03
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AfiefHow do you go about installing an RPM package? those seem the most ubiquitous in the linux world02:03
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rikaiHeh, Edubuntu comes out tomorrow as well, eh? :P02:03
luiteVoX: there is no 32 bit k8 kernel, right?02:03
LaserLinerikai Yeah, but you said about gnome stuff taking over xfce... didn't understand, aren't the GDM use whatever I tell it ?02:03
thoreauputicAfief: as far as possible, don't. Else use the alien command02:04
apoZ`What will be new about the new Ubuntu ?02:04
thoreauputicAfief: most things are in the ubuntu repos anyway02:04
rikaiLaserLine: yeah, i'm just paranoid myself. :P02:04
Afiefthoreauputic: what other options do i have?? if i don't find it in the reposities02:04
VoXluite: no, but if you have an a64 x2 why the hell do you want to use a 32-bit o/s?02:04
rikaiLaserLine: i prefer to install the preferred WM by default if i can help it.02:04
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thoreauputicAfief: what are you looking for?02:04
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apoZ`What will be new about the new Ubuntu ?02:05
LaserLinerikai cool.02:05
phiqtionhow can i add a splash screen tu GRUB? any package available that does this?02:05
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VoXapoZ`: more packages broken :D02:05
aftertafapoZ`:  its newness :)02:05
Afiefthoreauputic: I'm just toying with Ubuntu right now. installed superTux throught the synaptic okg manager but can't access it...02:05
thoreauputicAfief: steps are 1. Enable universe and multiverse 2.search in synaptic or apt-cache search 3. If necessary use the source with apt-get02:06
apoZ`okj :)02:06
LaserLineWhat Kernel Should I choose for a P3-600MHz, and What Kernel should I choose for AMD AthlonXP 2700+ running an nForce2 Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard (2 kernel questions :-))02:06
limguohong91But... How do i add a certain .tff file fonts into The Gimp?02:06
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luiteVoX: I didn't want to reinstall, didn't want to deal with the issues of running 32 bit (closed source binaries) on a64, and I think that 32 bit is tested much more than the amd64 version. and I don't think the performance difference is big enough to be noticeable02:06
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thoreauputicAfief: do dpkg -L <packagename> to see th efiles a package installed02:06
Tomcat_LaserLine: For the P3, use -686, for the Athlon, use -k702:06
damo21rikai: is there a xubuntu variant of breezy preview released?02:06
kbrooksapoZ`: A FAQ guide02:06
crimsundamo21: no.02:06
HrdwrBoblimguohong91: system->pref->font02:06
kbrooksapoZ`:02:06
kbrooks!faq02:06
ubotumethinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/02:06
LaserLineAthlonXP k7 ? isn't k7 old ?02:07
limguohong91Thanks HrdwrBob02:07
VoXluite: the performance difference is huge, and setting up a 32bit chroot takes about 10 minutes, max.02:07
HrdwrBobnp02:07
thoreauputicAfief: dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin to see executables usually helps too02:07
damo21crimsun: but tomorrow there will be?02:07
VoXbob02:07
HrdwrBobvox02:07
transgressVoX i'm not noticing a huge performance difference at all.02:07
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VoXany way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl?02:07
Tomcat_LaserLine: The Athlon line (no matter if XP or not) is k7... same kernel. :)02:07
transgressin fact... i'm calling Bullshit on that statement.02:07
Protequehmmm anyone have any ideah how to get spam quick? want to test my spamfilter.02:07
VoXtransgress: *shrug* i did02:07
luiteVoX: huge? in the benchmarks I've seen the difference is a few percent, at most, with some things even being faster running on 32 bit02:07
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transgressi think this might be the white van phenomenon...02:08
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VoXim just going off my experience02:08
kestashi, when I try to update my kernel I'm getting02:08
kestasSetting up linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 (2.6.10-34.7) ...02:08
kestas/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: device /dev/hdd1 is not a block device02:08
kestasbut Im not sure whyu02:08
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transgresshowever... want to see something special about 64bit... go run flash or most of the firefox extensions...02:08
kestas/dev/hdd1 is my main partition, it's a block device02:08
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kestasI dont see whats wrong02:08
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LaserLineTomcat_ Okay, that's new for me, I read on some forums that the K7 is for the Old Athlon's (before XP) I thought K7, but was convinced I should go with the 686... I guess the Athlon could use the 686 too because it's P4 compatible, maybe that's why some forums say go with 686...02:09
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VoXtransgress: your point?02:09
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kestasalthough I have /dev/hdd1 mounted as my root, /dev/hdd1 doesnt exist!02:09
kestasany ideas why?02:09
damo21kestas: are u sure u didnt mean hda1?02:09
kestasits messing up the linux install02:09
transgressi find, momentarily, the downsides to outweigh the upsides...02:09
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kestasdamo21: positive, /dev/hdd1 is my root02:10
damo21k02:10
rikaiLaserLine: i believe that you'd sue the K7 kernel for the athlon XP.02:10
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VoXtransgress: if not being able to run flash in 64bit naitive is outweighing the upsides, you need to re-organise what's important02:10
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LaserLinerikai sue ? why ? did it do something wrong ?02:10
Tomcat_LaserLine: My Athlon XP wasn't able to use 686 kernels... but that might have been coincidence.02:10
rikaidamo21: not that i know of, as far as i know, the only verion of xubuntu at the moment is avalaible through ynaptic, hat being a hoary release.02:11
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rikaiLaserLine: err... *use ;)02:11
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kestasanyone have any ideas how I can have /dev/hdd1 mounted but the device node /dev/hdd1 doesnt exist?02:11
LaserLinerikai hehe ;-)02:11
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transgressflash isn't all that important to me... extensions more so... but i've been running 64bit on my laptop for a few months now.  i haven't seen good enough reason to change... however... there are many a packages that i can use in x86 that i can't easily use in amd64...02:11
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kestasnm02:12
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nomedhi all02:12
damo21 Ubuntu v5.10 Breezy Badger Colony CD 5 Live ISO    is available for download02:12
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transgressand it's been that way02:12
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ajmitch_damo21: that's a few weeks old02:13
LaserLineThose guys on kernel channel write code :-) I don't understand a thing (LoL) I thought someone answered me with code, until I understood he was writing something else LoL :D02:13
damo21oh02:13
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rikaidamo21: colongy cd 5 is the preview release.02:13
damo21ok02:13
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nomedi'm trying breezy .. it seems /etc/hal/device.d is not present ... do you know if it has another name or what should i do to use scripts that use hal events?02:14
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LaserLinerikai I know AMD64 has it's own kernel, but what with P4 3GHZ with EMT64 ?02:14
afiefBreezy stops installing aditional packages due to some error and doesn't get around installing network support02:15
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crimsunLaserLine: then it uses the same amd64 kernel02:16
LaserLinecrimsun not the IA64 ?02:16
crimsunno, ia64 is a different beast altogether02:16
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LaserLinecrimsun yeah, Itanium...02:16
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LaserLineOff-Topic Is it possible to install Linux on a Palm Tungsten T3 ?02:17
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majmajhiiii02:17
j0bezonehello, I wonder if anyone knows what the gconf "apps/totem/visual_quality" key does? I've searched for it, and couldn't find anything. I ask this, because I was having problems with totem-gstreamer using xv (video appeared as diagonal lines (taken from the video, it seemed)), and it worked only after I set it to "1" (non-xv X11 worked fine).02:18
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majmajany body can help me??02:19
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rikaiLaserLine: yes.02:21
atripathimaj:not until you ask02:21
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majmajiam new using linux..02:21
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rikaimajmaj: ask your question.02:22
majmaji have download the live cd of ubuntu...02:22
majmajthan whats should id with the data??02:22
majmaji have burn to the cd02:22
majmajbut it can be bootable..02:22
atripathimaj is it iso image?02:22
majmajany body can help me what should i do??02:22
LaserLinerikai I can't find any documentation's about this... did you find any ? I heard there is an P4-EMT64 kernel, does breezy have it ?02:23
majmajlive cd..02:23
atripathiwhat is the extension of downloaded file02:23
rikaiow... pain... major pain in my back...02:23
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apoZ`atripathi, .edb02:23
majmajwaitt02:23
apoZ`atripathi, .deb**02:23
majmajyes iso...02:23
majmajISO..02:23
majmajthan??02:24
atripathigo to google and search for ubuntu+burning ISO02:24
rikaiLaserLine: last i knew, all 64 bit cpu's used the same 64bit kernel, other than the itanium...02:24
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nomedso nobody knows where to link the old scripts that were in /etc/hal/device.d/ (hoary) ...02:24
LaserLinerikai and about the Tungsten, do you have an idea ?02:24
majmajok thx atri...02:24
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DjKriticaldoes anyone know the pakage name for playing wmv files in breezy?02:24
majmaji ll seacrch02:24
atripathinp02:24
majmajthx mann..02:24
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Gouramihi, I need to authenticate to a proxy server which is why I presume I get no further thatn 0% on sudo apt-get update, how do I authenticate via a terminal ?02:25
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nomedwell other question ...02:25
aftertafGourami:  create a new file in /etc/apt called apt.conf02:25
nomedanyone using xfmedia?02:25
looksasu!tell DjKritical about proprietary formats02:25
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nomedit seems broken ...02:25
Hendrichi, i forgot the location of the ubuntu-developer-icon.. anyone knows ??02:26
DjKriticallooksasu, that didn't do anything?02:26
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atripathiGourami:you can set up proxy in synaptic02:26
Gouramiaftertaf what is the contents of that file ?02:26
looksasuDjKritical, sorry, mistyped02:26
aftertafGourami:  and add a line to it. Acquire::http::proxy "user:pass@http://proxyaddress"02:26
aftertafi think.02:26
atripathiHendric: Google Image Search02:27
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looksasuDjKritical, you want to look at the wiki pages on proprietary formats support02:27
Gouramisay ok I am trying to update hoary to breezy, can I do it via synaptic ?02:27
aftertafyes.02:27
DjKriticallooksasu, thanks02:27
aftertafGourami:  change your sources, update then dist-upgrade02:27
Hendricatripathi, the folder location of that file.. i'm gonna change it to something i want.. (the ubuntu launcher icon)02:27
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kairu0cups-pdf is the bomb02:28
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atripathiwhy dont u use file search :)02:29
looksasuDjKritical, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:29
shawarmaWhat is the "right way" to upgrade to Breezy? I did a s/hoary/breezy/g in my sources.list, but I can't really tell my grandmom to do the same... Is there a really simple way or does it involve opening each repo in synaptic and changing hoary to breezy?02:29
thoreauputic!tell limguohong91 about repos02:29
atripathilook for all png and ico02:29
thoreauputic!tell limguohong91 about msttcorefonts02:29
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thoreauputichmm02:29
rikaiLaserLine: nope, mo idea about the tungsten.02:30
aftertafshawarma:  yes, doing that, or making your gran a script to run ;)02:30
shawarmaaftertaf: right, ok.02:30
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rikainomed: honestly, i'd jsut wait for the official breezy release that's coming out tomorrow.02:30
thoreauputic!tell limguohong91 about msg02:30
looksasuthoreauputic, how do I get a list of subjects ubotu knows about?02:30
atripathilooksasu you must be having a lot of patience02:30
looksasuatripathi, how so?02:31
nomedrikai, all the player xine based have the same problem02:31
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thoreauputic!list02:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:31
nomedi would know if it happens just to me or if it's a bug02:31
atripathidid ya count how many formats you typed in :P02:31
thoreauputiclooksasu: ^^^02:31
nomedmaybe i should tell this to ubuntu-devel .. before the release02:31
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nomedit would be cool to know if it's a real bug ... or just a my problem02:32
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[Jonne] small question;02:33
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atripathiBreezy is yet to release and it says they have already forwarded the CDs to the shipping company. I wonder if i get the final build02:33
[Jonne] I want to mount a FAT32 disk in a folder in my home directory02:33
nomedi have problems using totem-xine xfmedia and xine-ui ... anyone else has the same problem?02:33
looksasuubotu listkeys02:33
sekundekHi! Is it possible to use nautilus for browsing over windows domain without entering pass every time. I've setup domain login and I can log in with windows domain user. But browsing on smb://worstation/ gives me pass and username prompt.02:33
[Jonne] currently the line in fstab is this:02:33
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[Jonne] /dev/sda3 /media/10\040GB\040Disk\040(sda3) vfat02:34
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[Jonne] what should I change?02:34
looksasuubotu listkeys *02:34
looksasuubotu listkeys .*02:34
ubotuFactoid search of '.*' by key returned no results.02:34
sponWhy my i am not seeing any of my hard drives in my computer ?02:34
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[Jonne] /dev/sda3 /home/username/folder\040GB\040Disk\040(sda3) vfat or02:34
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[Jonne] /dev/sda3 /home/username/folder/ vfat02:35
looksasu!ubotu listvals02:35
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atripathispon probably they are stolen!02:35
sponyep02:35
looksasu!ubotu listvals *02:35
looksasu!ubotu listvals .*02:35
ubotuFactoid search of '.*' by value returned no results.02:35
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thoreauputiclooksasu: please use the bot in msg or /query02:36
thoreauputic!botabuse02:36
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.02:36
thoreauputicor that02:36
[Jonne] never mind, found it02:36
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hubsiguten tag02:38
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sponyou assholes are suppose to help noobs like me... this is my first linux use i have 2 hard drives first is split on two logical discs on 1 i have win xp on second i have ubuntus and on third i have alla my stuff that i want to use so how can i access my drives ?02:39
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looksasuthoreauputic, sorry, had no idea about that02:40
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thoreauputiclooksasu: OK - it just keeps the noise down in channel :)02:41
thoreauputicspon: please read the code of conduct02:41
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Dreamglidersmo, /topic02:41
sekundekanyone02:41
thoreauputic!coc02:41
ubotuhmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/02:41
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thoreauputicspon: and watch your language or you'll be out of here02:42
sponok02:42
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sponthx02:42
xxtremespon_ maybe you should ask nicely02:42
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sponmaybe u should answer nicely when i asked the first time02:43
thoreauputicspon: this is a volunteer channel - adjsut your attitude, please02:43
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xxtremespon_ ok, well good luck!02:44
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foXgamerhi guys.02:44
thoreauputicspon: you are more likely to get responses if you are polite. Your call02:44
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esheranyone can tellme why i dont can type an "@" at x11 ? all other keys are okay02:45
sekundekdoes anyone connect to windows domain with ubuntu02:45
foXgamerAnyone able to help me set up a hp deskjet printer?02:45
athlonesher,  do you have a non-standard keyboard ? e.g. german keyboard02:45
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esheryes, an german one02:46
atripathiesher   System>Keyboard02:46
atripathihope it helps02:46
cuscohi! Im running hoary live cd...  I installed mplayer trough apt after I installed the w32codecs from marillat repo02:46
athlongo there and select a german keyboard layout.02:46
cuscowhy can't I open a mpg02:47
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cuscowhen I type mplayer in the terminal it just freezes02:47
cuscodoesn't open the player window.. and when I hit ctrl + c02:47
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cuscoMPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: enable_cache02:47
cuscoMPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: ao2_init02:48
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JohnFluxIMPORTANT: I'm getting an MD5Sum mismatch from the gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy mirror02:49
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liran__from root i'm doing 'su - apache' to do some changes as the apache user but its saying the password has aged... will i be breaking anything if i change it?02:49
thoreauputicJohnFlux: did you do an apt-get update before trying to install?02:49
coreyWhats the quickest way to transfer gigs and gigs of files from one linux box on a network to another linux box on the same network?02:49
thoreauputicJohnFlux: maybe some packages have changed02:50
JohnFluxthoreauputic: i'm getting the error from apt-get update02:50
thoreauputicah02:50
JohnFluxthoreauputic: md5sum problem on the Sources.gz file02:50
liran__corey, i dont know... ftp?02:50
thoreauputicJohnFlux: OK I see02:50
JohnFluxthoreauputic: I'm retrying (half hour later)02:50
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JohnFluxthoreauputic: it will take a few mins (slow connection)02:50
thoreauputicJohnFlux: right - see if it gets fixed02:50
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Dreamglideronce i have shared a folder in Ubuntu, how can i acces it from another ps allso running ubuntu ?02:53
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Hendricwhere can i find the ubuntu logo?? the one besides <icon> Applications02:54
r0xoRhi02:54
r0xoRahh... 1 more day02:54
r0xoRok... so is it an official release on that day then?02:54
r0xoRbreezy i mean?02:54
Hendricwhere can i find the ubuntu logo?? the one besides <icon> Applications (on breezy)02:54
mweliran_: I don't know if changing the password will break anything. I don't think so, but AFAIK the apache user is only intended to be used by the apache daemon, not as a login account.02:54
r0xoRand what will be different on the ISO image tomorow vs. today?02:54
eythianBut it's already Thursday! It should be out now :)02:55
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apokryphosr0xoR: bugfixes, perhaps; finishing touches02:55
ProtequeI have a problem with spamassassin X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=6.4 required=4.0 and rewrite_subject 1 subject_tag [SPAM]  in local.cf. But it does not change the subject? what can cause this?02:55
r0xoRapokryphos, hmm...02:55
JohnFluxthoreauputic: okay it seems okay now02:55
r0xoRapokryphos, so i guess it would be a little bit dumb to download 5.04 atm02:55
JohnFluxthoreauputic: probably just unlucky in the timing02:55
r0xoRwhen i could just wait a day and get the fresh release of 5.1002:55
apokryphosr0xoR: why?02:55
thoreauputicJohnFlux: not to pun, but breezy is in a state of flux atm :)02:56
r0xoRapokryphos, i dunno, i'm sorta askin... what do you think?02:56
apokryphosr0xoR: oh sorry, yes -- it would be pretty silly02:56
apokryphosr0xoR: it would save you downloadin' quite a few megs again02:56
Hendricany help for me?02:56
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JohnFluxthoreauputic: do you happen to know if the breezy kernel supports reiserfs4 ? :)  hoary doesn't :(02:56
thoreauputicJohnFlux: no idea, sorry :|02:57
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wickedpuppyJohnFlux, you can always recompile02:58
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oelewapperkehow do you safely recompile the kernel for ubuntu ?02:58
mweJohnFlux: is reiser4 really stable yet? Last I checked quite a few people had had file curruption using it. It some time ago though02:58
oelewapperkeie what's make-kpkg been replaced with ?02:58
gbayHi all.. is there any easy way to get a working 256color xterm? I've tried installing from source but nothing changed02:58
wickedpuppythe same way you compile for other distros ...02:58
liran__how can i run a program under another user name?02:59
eythianHendric: did you check out the website? Perhaps searching for 'logo', and maybe trying the second link down?02:59
wickedpuppyliran_, you can su then run02:59
wickedpuppysu username i mean02:59
JohnFluxmwe: I'm using it readonly so I don't care about file corruption :)02:59
Hendriceythian, i did.. doesn't work.. for hoary maybe but not for breezy03:00
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liran__wickedpuppy, im suing to the 'apache' user and it asks me to change a password cause it expired03:00
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rikaireiser4 = very bad if you ever lose power.03:00
liran__wickedpuppy, can i change it or will it break something...?03:00
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wickedpuppyliran_, you can su -s ... then chpasswd apache03:00
eythianHendric: huh? they changed logos? You saw this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork03:01
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LaserLineDoes anyone know what packages are installed via a 'server' installation of Breezy ?03:01
limcomhi everybody03:01
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limcomcan u here meB03:01
limcom?03:01
eythianlimcom: nope03:01
DMFDSandmanwhat format do you need to enter the wep into for wlan0?03:01
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liran__wickedpuppy, yeah i can change it (premission wise) im just asking if its ok? i mean httpd and other services arent gonna have a problem with this?03:01
Hobbseelimcom: definetly not, until you ask something in enough detail03:01
limcomhm..03:01
rob_LaserLine, minimal packages for a text only environment03:01
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Hendriceythian, not that log... d menu icon that you click like the start menu in windows03:02
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icewtwill breezy be released at 00:00 or something? and according to what timezone?-)03:02
Hendric*logo03:02
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MyrttiUTC?03:02
Hobbseeicewt: if it's in NZ timezone, it ougth to be here03:02
Hobbseeif it's AEST, it should be here in an hour03:02
JohnFluxlimcom: don't ever again use 'me8' :)03:03
eythianHobbsee: I'm in NZ timezone, it's not here yet :)03:03
limcom03:03
aftertafstop being pedantic .......... :D03:03
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Hobbseeeythian: no way!  what time's it there?03:03
aftertafno updates all day anyway. consider it stable and break away :)03:03
eythianHobbsee:020703:03
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Hobbseethat's what i thought, it is after midnight there!03:03
aftertafweird that... where i am it's still last week.....03:03
Hobbseeand yes, obviously it's not there03:04
eythianHendric: hrm? I thought the logo beside the applications was the same logo that's on that page.03:04
icewthmm03:04
wickedpuppyliran_, should have prob ...03:04
Hobbseelol aftertaf: you need to look at your calender a bit more often :P03:04
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eythianHobbsee: I know, I'm awfully dissapointed. Knowing th way these things go, it'll probably be Friday before it arrives!03:04
Dreamgliderwhen the final ubuntu breezy get released i just have to update, or must i download the CD img  again ?03:04
Hobbseeeythian: our friday, yeah!03:04
HobbseeDreamglider: you can update, you dont need to redownload03:04
eythianHobbsee: yeah, it seems quite unfair!03:05
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Hendricaftertaf, do you know where to change the ubuntu developer menu icon???03:05
Dreamgliderok gyyd03:05
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Hobbseeshame on you people!  :P03:05
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DMFDSandmandoes 128bit WEP work with ubuntu?03:06
aftertafnope Hendric ... :/03:06
eythianHobbsee: it gets worse, I'm currently at +1300GMT...do you know how many websites can't accept that??03:06
Hendricaftertaf, somebody here told me, sadly i forgot the folder.. :(03:06
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Hobbseeeythian: no, that's a pain!  i guess you have to put it at -11, and be a day behind!03:06
eythianHobbsee: well, usually I put it at +1200, that's somewhat less confusing.03:07
Hobbseetrue, but it's still an hour out03:07
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aftertafstay at gmt, set it manually and deactivea ntptime03:07
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antgelhi all, i'm a debian man usually, but thinking about (k)ubuntu for my parents' machine (they are not the most knowledgeable users).  are apt upgrades supported from release to release, a la debian?03:08
Knorrieantgel: yes03:08
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aftertafantgel:  and 6 month release cycle... between versions....03:09
antgelgreat. also, is there much difference between installing kubuntu, and installing ubuntu and aptitude install kde?03:09
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aftertafantgel:  each has a metapackage ubuntu|kubuntu-desktop03:10
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aftertafeach will install all necessary dependencies for the WM in question.03:10
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kemik(ubuntu|kubuntu)-desktop03:11
kemik;)03:11
aftertafinstall ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop, you have both (sort of)03:11
antgelaftertaf: so it's really no big deal which os is installed03:11
aftertafkemik:  regexp correction accepted03:11
kemikantgel:  kde / gnome isnt the os03:11
aftertafantgel:  IMHO, no... technically, 99.99% sure no.03:11
aftertafISO03:11
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antgelkemik: thank you for filling me in :/03:11
antgelaftertaf: thanks03:12
kemikwell, its a big difference03:12
antgelkemik: i meant os as in distro as in ubuntu or kubuntu03:12
aftertafnow now... nitpicking id for the bored!!!03:12
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aftertaf*is03:12
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kemikaftertaf:  im extremely bored...03:12
kemik:)03:12
Hobbseelol03:12
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aftertafcant you tell.....03:12
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aftertaf /nick r3g3xp03:13
aftertaf:)03:13
kemikheh03:13
aftertafkemik:  install e1703:13
Hobbseeaftertaf: easily, you can use your brain towards fixing my printer if you want :P03:13
kemikwell.. i actually have an assignment todo.. but damn isit boring03:13
aftertaf'll keep you busy03:13
Hobbseethat'd save you from getting bored03:13
aftertafand itis lovely :)03:13
Hobbseekemik: ah yes, i've got major exams next week...keep putting it off :D03:13
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kemike17 is alot of eyecandy03:13
Dreamgliderhow do i acces a shared folder on ubuntu ?03:13
antgeli just read the topic and wished i didn't download 5.04. oh well, can upgrade, so you tell me03:13
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Dreamglideraccess*03:13
aftertafe17 is niiiiice and fast.03:13
kemikHobbsee:  mine are in 2 weeks.. got this damn labs todo before that03:14
Hobbseeeek03:14
kemik*these03:14
RenskiIve got some Mathematics assignments I need doing if youre bored.03:14
aftertafantgel:  no matter, if adsl connection you have, upto date you shall be03:14
HobbseeLOL03:14
HobbseeRenski: on what?  that could be fun03:14
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kemikahh.. think i'll go to the gym instead03:14
kemikclear my head03:14
ThirstehBreezy is tomorrow???03:14
aftertafthink i'll go see jim instead.....03:14
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kemikThirsteh:  according to my calendar; yes03:15
aftertafThirsteh:  yeah, but its always morning in irc, so dont ask when exactly, tomorrow ;)03:15
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head_rushYOU ARE ACTUALLY DUMB03:15
head_rush?03:15
DMFDSandmanhi all, can someone  help me with a wireless lan problem?03:15
Thirstehkemik, damn.. I've been looking forward to it like christmas eve, I was positive that it was today03:15
Hobbseeaccording to eythian, it's today03:15
kemikRenski:  tell me it's something simle.. like "1+1" :)03:15
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aftertafhead_rush:  nope....03:15
aftertafchild03:15
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Renskierr, not its an assignment for a Hons degree in mathematical and computing sciences.03:16
Renski*no03:16
martiuhi, i am new in Ubuntu and linux at all. I am having some problems to config the sound!! Someone here can help me03:16
head_rushI AM NOT A CHILD I AM 1303:16
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liablehaha03:16
Thirstehlol03:16
HobbseeRenski: ooh fun03:16
kemikhehee03:16
Hobbseehehehehehe03:16
kemikthat was really fun tho03:16
kemikheadrush made my day03:16
ThirstehGuess you could say a 13-year old is a teenager, but oh well, that's all :P03:16
kemiksomeone could post that on bash03:16
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Renskiargh, bash03:17
Renskibash.org has been down for days03:17
eythiankemik: there's a better one there, I'm looking it up now :)03:17
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HobbseeThirsteh: now that's an insult to all the good teenagers!03:17
aftertafmakes you very clever. dont shout, ask your question, or go offtopic to learn about things :)03:17
antgelkemik: now i know you're young i understand why you felt the need to pipe up with the irrelevant bit of knowledge before. don't worry, i'm sure you know stuff.  :)03:17
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carsten_hi03:17
eythianoh, that explains why it's not loading...03:17
xxtrememartiu_ whats the prob?03:17
kemikRenski:  maths is boring :)03:17
antgelthanks for the help all, perhaps see you soon03:17
aftertaffunny thing, how did he see my 'child' post if he disconnected.... unless its someone else who is very bored03:17
Renskikemik: I find it intresting03:17
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ThirstehHobbsee, good teenager... This channel isn't about surrealism mate :)03:17
Methynutnut*yawn* <-- bored fellow03:17
carsten_does anyone have an idea about how large the universe repo. is?03:17
carsten_in MB/GB?03:18
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kemikRenski:  i find it a necessary evil when dabbling in comp.science..03:18
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aftertafmartiu:  what seems to be the pb with the sound?03:18
Renskicarsten_: I doubt they measure it in mb03:18
Hobbseeaftertaf: i'm wondering that, seems like he was talking before he entered with the same nick03:18
carsten_and in gb? :)03:18
Thirstehcarsten_, I read that as "does anyone have an idea how large the universe is?"03:18
martiuxxtreme: the default sound of Gnome plays, but when i try to listen some mp3 or play any flash, the speakers stay mute03:18
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aftertafmartiu:  what app do you use for mp3?03:19
Hobbseeah yes, i see now, he left before he joined again03:19
Renskicarsten_: no idea03:19
aftertafHobbsee:  furious scrolling to put it all together?03:19
martiui went in the ubuntu page and try do to some changes that they say, but nothing happened03:19
martiui use xmms03:19
aftertafwhich ubuntu page?03:19
Renskicarsten_: it would be cool to mirror it on a large corp. network using ubuntu as a desktop03:19
xxtrememartiu_ in a terminal type alsamixer03:19
aftertafok... in xmms, you can open the prefs and see what output plugin is activated?03:19
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xxtrememartiu_ tell me what u see03:20
Hobbseeaftertaf: that's the one, it's getting late here, so everything takes longer03:20
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carsten_Renski, yes, do you have an idea how to find out the size?03:20
martiui'll try..just a moment03:20
carsten_i cannot do an "du" on ftp :)03:20
aftertafhehehe Hobbsee03:20
Renskicarsten_: no idea03:20
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aftertafbrb cigtime again :)03:20
Renskicarsten_: im not an ubuntu expert03:20
martiuxxtreme: i saw some vertical bars03:20
Hobbseelol...you and your cigarettes...but you might miss the child coming in again...03:21
xxtrememartiu_ is any of them muted?03:21
Hobbseeand you wouldnt want that03:21
Renskicarsten_: but I cant imagine it being more than a few hundred GB03:21
martiusome of them is filled but others not03:21
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martiusorry, but what is mutted...i don't understand some expressions in english03:22
xxtremeMartiu_ i had the same problem, until I raised all the bars to 100%03:22
Renskiprehaps you could find out by scripting something with apt-cache03:22
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martiui'll try so03:22
xxtrememartiu_muted means not turned on03:22
Hobbseemartiu: muted: quiet, no noise coming from them03:22
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Hobbseemake sure you have the other inputs muted though, the line jack sense and the headphone jack sense - that makes a difference too03:23
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martiuhow i configure them03:23
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Hobbseemartiu: arrow keys on your keyboard03:23
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Hobbseeup and down to make it go louder/quieter, left and right keys to move channels03:24
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martiuthanks hobbsee03:24
Hobbseeno problems03:24
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Sarkiehi03:26
xxtremeMartiu_ did that solve ur sound issue?03:26
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Sarkieare the gb reposittries down03:27
Sarkie?03:27
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messjuhi, i have problems with a sk98lin / skge NIC on breezy. i get an interface and even can ping the address, but i cannot get any traffic through it03:27
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sector10if i have ubuntu preview will just applying updates be the same as new release right? unless i had some install problem possbily..03:28
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ubuntugeekdoes anyone know if there is a specified time for the breezy release other then Oct 13.. I would like to cordinate the launch on the forums..03:28
Hobbseesector10: yes03:29
martiuxxtreme: the problem continues03:29
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Hobbseemartiu: did you mute line jack sense and headphone jack sense?03:29
SarkieIm getting an error for update, if some one could take a look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/301203:29
martiui think is something in the configuration of the sound device03:29
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xxtremesector10_ can you give me that website for the linux sonyvaio FS series03:29
martiuno they are ok03:29
sector10Hobbsee: i got loads of updates coming in, thanks just curious03:29
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sector10xxtreme: hi , ok03:29
Hobbseemartiu: you may find the sound works if you do mute them :P03:29
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martiuthe think tha is strnge is that the archive does not open...03:30
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frickelwhat do I need to do if I can't see fonts on flash sites?03:30
sector10xxtreme: do you mean the ubuntu notebook  site?03:30
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HobbseeSarkie: doesnt look like there are mirrors on those multiverse reps03:31
frickel(but flash is installed)03:31
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Hobbseetake the .gb out of both of them03:31
Hobbsee*gb.03:31
xxtremesector10_   yeah, talking about our laptops, help issues03:31
Phil197salut tout le monde03:31
steve_donSarkie: I had the same problem yesterday I ended up using different mirrors03:31
Sarkiewhich mirrors. just taking gb out will help?03:31
steve_donSarkie: yep03:32
Hobbseethat'd get it from the main US site, so that would work03:32
Sarkielets see ;)03:32
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occyw00p! 1 day!03:32
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sector10xxtreme: cant find it just now hang on a sec03:33
xxtremesector10_ no worries03:33
pl_icequick question, is it possible on simple ciso routers to 'block' arp table, o that no spoofing can be done?03:33
Sarkieseems to be working ;)03:33
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pl_ice*so03:33
Phil197hello everyone03:34
SarkieI had 2 repos to the same site, not good :S03:34
steve_donSarkie: did you delete both or just one ?03:34
Sarkiejust one03:34
foxgamerhey phill9703:34
Sarkieor else it wouldnt use it03:34
Phil197hello03:35
steve_donSarkie: arh ok will check my sources.list as well then see if that was my problem03:35
sector10xxtreme: in the meantime there are some here http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html03:35
Phil197foxgamer03:35
Sarkie;)03:35
Sarkienext problem is java 1.503:35
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Phil197could anyone help me with the 5.04 distro?03:35
TiMiDoask Phil19703:35
HobbseePhil197: nope, not without more detail03:35
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Sarkiehow do I search for j2sdk1.503:36
TiMiDo!tell Sarkie about javadeb03:36
TiMiDoi sent you the link03:36
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TiMiDoread ypu03:36
Phil197in fact, i cant play audio CDs03:36
TiMiDo*read you'r private message03:36
Sarkietah03:36
Sarkieim there thanx TiMiDo03:36
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TiMiDonp Sarkie03:36
Phil197but the sound works very well03:36
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TiMiDoPhil197: did you do sudo adduser $USER cdrom ?03:36
leonelSarkie, just download the  SUN JDK03:37
sector10TiMiDo: do you know of the link to ubuntu laptop testers?03:37
hannahtesting03:37
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Phil197i have to do that?03:37
TiMiDo!tell sector10 about laptop03:37
TiMiDoPhil197: yes you do03:37
Sarkieleonel, wont install properly03:37
TiMiDowell brb later, guys03:37
Pluk!tell Pluk about laptop03:37
Hobbseeah yes, that was what i was going to do...the laptop testing03:38
Phil197in fact, i can read data CDs, but when i doubleclick an autoi CD, i receive the following message03:38
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sector10xxtreme: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops03:38
TiMiDowhat message Phil19703:38
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sector10TiMiDO: thanks03:38
TiMiDosector10: np03:38
Phil197"couldn't display "cdda:///dev/hdb""03:38
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leonelSarkie, donwload , unpack  ,  set the PATH  to the JAVA_HOME/bin   and that's all03:38
TiMiDothat's not you're cdrom device it should be /dev/cdrom Phil19703:38
leonelSarkie, works fine here03:39
apokryphosleonel: no03:39
intelikeyTiMiDo what are you talking about ?03:39
xxtremesector10_ thanks03:39
apokryphosleonel: no need if there's a deb out there (which there is)03:39
TiMiDointelikey: i'm talking to you?03:39
leonelapokryphos, right03:39
sector10xxtreme: lets stay in touch03:39
intelikeyTiMiDo ls -l /dev/cdrom  some time.03:39
xxtremesector10_ hows ur FS running?03:39
DMFDSandmanhello, does ubuntu support 128bit WEP or do i need to use 64bit WEP because its not working when I try to use to connect through 128bit and it works fine when there isnt any.03:39
Phil197in fact, i tried to replace this in the CD player by cdrom03:39
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xxtremesector10_ i got some screenshots i want to send you of mine03:40
leonelapokryphos, but I prefer to download the JDK , JRE  from sun03:40
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intelikeyit is just a symbolic link to the device node.03:40
TiMiDoPhil197: do sudo apt-get install cdcd03:40
VoXany way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl/removed libdrm?03:40
TiMiDo(:03:40
Phil197and i had couldn't display cdda:///dev/cdrom03:40
sector10xxtreme: right now on big box, i can get it03:40
xxtremesector10_ whats that, and how?03:40
sector10xxtreme: try private message. right click on name03:41
sector10dont know if that works03:41
Phil197in fact, i supposed that my cdrom is the hdb, cause it is connected on the same cable of the system hdd03:41
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Phil197besides, i noticed that /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/hdb03:42
intelikeyPhil197 yeah that post "<TiMiDo> that's not you're cdrom device it should be /dev/cdrom Phil197" is bogus, ignore it.03:42
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Phil197ok, i'll ignore it03:43
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nrbqhi!03:43
nrbqneed some help03:43
joose^hi, I'm a beginner, who just installed ubuntu. But i can't seem to get to the 'synaptic package manger' feature. Any suggestions?03:43
nrbqcan't install amule03:43
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nrbqwhen I try I get a dependency error I can't resolve03:44
aftertaf!tell nrbq abour repos03:44
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nrbqThis worked fine when I built a laptop a few days ago from the same hoary disk03:44
aftertafnrbq:  check that link, and also try sudo apt-get -f install03:44
Phil197in fact, i think that my linux has a problem to read sound from CD, cause i played a song stored on a usb stik, it worked verywell03:45
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nrbqaftertaf, which link?03:45
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aftertafthat ubotu sent you03:45
nrbqcan't see one03:45
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nrbqJust tried the -f option03:45
eythian!tell nrbq about repos03:45
aftertaf!repos03:46
ubotusources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:46
nrbqsays broken packages03:46
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eythianspelt it correctly :)03:46
nrbqaftertaf, thanks03:46
intelikeyPhil197 you do have the audio cable connected to the cd drive don't you ?03:46
Phil197yes03:46
nrbqI've added additional repositories03:46
nrbqbummer03:46
Phil197i cheked it to be sure03:46
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Phil197and it is connected03:46
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aftertaflol eythian gotcha :/03:47
intelikeyand to the sound card that your speekers are pluged into  :)03:47
Phil197i can even read some video files with totem03:47
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nrbqyeah, I've got all those repos (the ones that aren't commented and a couple that are)03:47
nrbqCan I flash you the error message?03:48
helpmehow do i access synaptic and certain selected gui apps without being prompted for password?? and as normal user??03:48
Sarkieyou cant03:48
Phil197yes, in fact, my soundcard is built in the motherboard03:48
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apokryphosyou can; that's the glory of sudo03:48
Sarkiesudo -s03:49
Sarkiebut still enter a password03:49
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apokryphosnope; you do it by altering the visudo file03:49
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nrbqeythian, can I message you the error I get when trying to install amule?03:49
intelikeyyes Phil197  but data is read through the data cable. from a mounted disk.  cda is read from the hardware via the audio cable.     however testng an app like cdcd or playcd (cdplay which ever it is.) is not a bad idea.03:49
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Phil197i type cdcd in a terminal?03:50
intelikeyyeah03:50
intelikeyif it is installed.03:50
pl_iceanyone got router linksys wless ?03:50
Phil197ok03:50
intelikeyi use cdtool for all cli cda03:51
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Phil197i'll try this03:51
nrbqaftertaf, can I message you the error I get - I'd really like to clear this up - a reinstall hasn't fixed it03:51
eythiannrbq: I probably can't help, I don't use amule03:51
Phil197before i had the 4.10, and the CD was working after i recompiled my kernel to include the driver of my soundcard03:51
nrbqeythian, thanks - fair enough03:52
eythiannrbq: chuck it in a pastebin03:52
pl_icenrbq what's the error? :/ u compiling it?03:52
nrbqeythian, I'm new here - how does that work?03:52
eythian!pastebin03:52
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:52
nrbqpl_ice, not compiling - just ran sudo apt-get install amule and it bombed03:52
nrbqbut worked fine on another laptop a few days ago03:52
nrbq!pastebin03:53
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:53
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eythiannrbq: stick the error in there, and we'll see what we can do. And if you can code in Java with SWT, I'll trade some help for that ;)03:53
pl_icehm, the older versions were buggy ,but ports have the latest ...03:53
nrbqeythian, I wish I could! ;)03:53
pl_iceunless maybe it's crashing with unsatable packages ...03:53
Phil197how could i do to type a message to a specific user?03:53
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adwaitPhil197: /msg <nickname> <message>03:54
nrbqit's there now03:54
intelikey /msg nick  message    but i wouldn't without asking03:54
nrbqI really hope someone can help03:54
nrbqThis is driving me crazy!03:54
nrbq:)03:54
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aftertafnrbq:  have you upgraded to breezy on this pc?03:55
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nrbqI went back and reinstalled all the listed libs from the disk, but no cigar03:55
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intelikeyok time to go.... bbl03:56
nrbqaftertaf, no, I only just heard about hoary a few days ago03:56
aftertafok. you are on horay, installed from a cd, right?03:56
nrbqaftertaf, yup03:56
aftertafyouve added the repos to your sorces list,03:56
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aftertafhave you typed sudo apt-get update?03:56
nrbqjust did a normal install - added the repos as mentioned on ubuntuguide03:56
seliniumIs it possible to get xmms to start without a tab on the panel?03:56
Sarkieheres an odd one, if i run quake3 from the App Menu, no sound, but if i run from terminal i get sound??03:57
aftertafubuntuguide? argh!!!!!03:57
aftertafdoes your sources.list resemble what ubotu said?03:57
nrbqhave done an update03:57
pl_iceselinium yeh03:57
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nrbqaftertaf, what's wrong with the guide!03:57
aftertafnrbq:  ok. have you checked your repos against the link from ubotu?03:57
nrbq\0/03:57
aftertafthe guide is outofdate and gives bad advice sometimes.03:58
pl_iceselinium devilspie03:58
nrbqaftertaf, yeah, but I'm just double checking now03:58
aftertafok cool. nrbq if it is, redo sudo apt-get update, then try again.....03:58
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aftertafit could be a pb with the repos right now, what with breezy coming out tomorrow and all.03:58
Doktoreasguys is there any way to use webcam on gaim on msn?03:59
adwaitDoktoreas: no, but theres a branch of gaim specifically for multimedia support called gaim-vv03:59
pl_icebed :)03:59
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Doktoreasadwait: a friend of mine wanna migrate to linux but he wants webcam in msn...04:00
mirakis there a way to fix the font paath problem with X11 in breezy ?04:00
Doktoreaswill he be ok?04:00
mirakDoktoreas: no04:00
Doktoreas:(04:00
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adwaitDoktoreas: no idea, i haven't used gaim-vv04:00
Doktoreasso i'll put kubuntu and kde 3.5b104:00
adwaitbut its there......give it a shot04:00
frickelI have some trouble with my root console, can someone help04:00
adwaitDoktoreas: kubuntu or kubuntu won't really make a difference04:01
adwaitfrickel: specific info would help.....04:01
Doktoreasadwait: kopete 3.5b1 support webcam04:01
Doktoreasi'll use on gentoo here04:01
frickeladwait: could you open a new channel?04:01
helpmeim using gaim-vv......dont think it lets u view webcams!04:02
adwaitDoktoreas: ok...well then u can use that on ubuntu as well, so like i said kubuntu/ubuntu doesnt make a diff04:02
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Phil197does someone know what is terminal server client for?04:02
adwaitfrickel: i could, but you would be better off, coz lots of ppl would read your question...so the chances of getting an answer are higher :)04:02
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DreamgliderPhil197, it's for connetcing to a remote desktop04:02
funkyHatPhil197, viewing or using a remote desktop04:02
frickeladwait: Ok, I can't start my root-console... I can only use sudo or su (su I didn't try)04:03
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swbgood job guys! Ubuntu gets sweeter everyday04:03
Dreamglideri am using it now04:03
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frickeladwait: it just crashes after a while and can't load04:03
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adwaitfrickel: wierd......but u can use sudo fine?04:04
extreme_hello04:04
frickeladwait: this works well04:04
extreme_i hace probelm with linmodem04:04
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Dreamgliderhow can i connect to a shared folder on ubuntu ?04:04
extreme_a instal04:04
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extreme_modem work but04:04
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frickeladwait: so I didn't notice maye because regualary I use sudo04:04
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extreme_--> No dial tone.04:05
extreme_?04:05
adwaitfrickel: um, no idea mate, I am using kubuntu not ubuntu, anyway since u can use sudo, it can't be much of a bother04:05
extreme_i trying all day04:05
extreme_:P04:05
liablethrough a pabx/04:05
liable?04:05
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frickeladwait: I'm afraid that I opened a security hole without taking notice04:06
selinium thoreauputic, have you set up a freenx server04:06
extreme_any advice ?04:06
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adwaitfrickel: how come? just that the app root console wont start, right? wheres the security risk?04:06
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frickeladwait: I first thought maybe I can't access as root, but sudo works fine04:07
frickeladwait: and the root console is also only a kind of sudo with gksudo /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator04:07
frickeladwait: what could be wrong, maybe gksudo??04:07
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adwaitfrickel: when u try starting the root terminal, does it ask u for ur password?04:08
frickeladwait: not really if I already entered it04:08
thoreauputicselinium: sorry missed it - yes I have one here04:08
frickeladwait: after a while again I think04:08
adwaitfrickel: yeah, but otherwise it does right? so gksudo is working fine....04:09
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frickeladwait: I now try gksudo, mom04:09
adwaitfrickel: try using sudo x-terminal-emulator.....what happens?04:09
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seliniumI am following the wiki, it won't allow me to change the passwd for the user. Says I need to login first... I will try that then... Sorry! :)04:09
seliniumthoreauputic, I am following the wiki, it won't allow me to change the passwd for the user. Says I need to login first... I will try that then... Sorry! :)04:10
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Skidis it possible to limit the number of processes a user can fork ?04:10
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frickeladwait: hm, with sudo it does not give an error but does also neither start04:10
krum/nick seigologies04:11
krum/server webmaster.ca.us.webchat.org 700004:11
adwaitfrickel: just terminalts abruptly? wierd......u sure ur password is correct? (cant think of any other problems :P )04:11
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frickeladwait: with sudo it not takes any effect, in console it also not takes effect... and the pw is ok04:12
dunstabuloshas anyone installed ubuntu under colinux?  i have acpi issues with my laptop, but have debian booting successfully under colinux. Is there a guide somewhere?04:12
krumsorry04:12
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adwaitfrickel: no idea then :p04:12
adwaitsorry04:13
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krumwrong place04:13
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krum;)04:13
frickeladwait: ok, thx anyway... why u use kubuntu?04:13
adwaitfrickel: because i like KDE better than GNOME'04:13
seliniumSeveas: have you got that nxclient still?04:13
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frickeladwait: oh, its with kde04:13
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adwaitfrickel: yeah, it just ubuntu with KDE.......otherwise everything is same inclduing versions and repositories04:14
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frickeladwait: isn't it the education version for schools and university04:14
frickeladwait: so its made for more users?04:14
adwaitfrickel: yes, its called edubuntu04:14
adwaitfrickel: all the *nix systems can run many users at once........edubuntu just has a collection of packages preinstalled which can aid teaching04:15
frickeladwait: hm, if the console isn't a security risk I can ignore it...04:15
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adwaitfrickel: it certainly isnt a security risk...04:15
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dunstabulosfrickel: its also designed to be easier to use in a terminal server role out of the box04:15
vengefuli was abit hesitant about it too04:16
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frickeldunstabulos: what way easier?04:16
Seveasselinium, yeaj04:16
vengefulbut unless you are running a server i dont see it as a problem04:16
Seveasyou need it for breezy04:16
Seveas?04:16
adwaitdunstabulos: as in LTSP?04:16
dunstabulosfrickel: ltsp04:16
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aftertafSeveas:  ready for tomorrow???? got an alias ready to hide behind?04:16
dunstabulosfrickel: according to the website, i don't use edubuntu myself04:16
Seveasaftertaf, *g*04:17
aftertafgonna be 1000x is it out yet?04:17
seliniumSeveas, Sorry reading the wiki wrong, no I need it for hoary. But it does not seem to be there?04:17
apoZ`!admin04:17
ubotuapoZ`: Are you smoking crack?04:17
Seveasaftertaf, I'll change the topic to NO IT ISN'T :)04:17
apoZ`admins ??04:17
aftertafhehe04:17
adwait!microsoft04:17
ubotuadwait: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:17
Seveasselinium, for hoary -> nomachine.com04:17
frickeldunstabulos: but ltsp would not work with ubuntu?04:17
seliniumSeveas, Cheers :)04:17
apoZ`Admin ??04:17
flagfrancahello all04:18
apoZ`Seveas, admin ?04:18
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nrbqaftertaf, I'll have to press ahead later - work calls04:18
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | No Breezy is not out yet -- be patient! | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
nrbqbut thanks for all your help - very much appreciated04:18
SeveasapoZ`, ?04:18
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aftertafnrbq:  ok.04:18
apoZ`Seveas, I've been banned on #ubuntu-nl04:18
apoZ`Can you unban it ?04:18
SeveasapoZ`, I suppose Treenaks had a good reason04:18
mohkohnanybody else having trouble installing skype on Breezy?04:19
SeveasapoZ`, but this is highly off-topic in here...04:19
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apoZ`He was whining about the way I speak dutch, but i'm from belgium where they speak dutch in an other way04:19
frickelubotu tell frickel about microsoft04:19
apoZ`I don't think you can discriminate me because of my origin..04:19
flagfrancaIs there a way to backup a functional installation of Ubuntu or activate some kind of a "system recover"? Yesterday, after I installed some packages (GTK and a disk defragmenter) and rebooted the machine, the GNOME interface didn't work anymore an I got stuck with a command line interface....04:19
aftertafapokryphos:04:19
apoZ`Seveas,  ??04:19
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aftertafcrap........... sorry apokryphos total mess up on my kb there04:20
mohkohnapoZ I thought you guys alway win tien vertall or whatever that game show is about Dutch spelling!04:20
apoZ`Idd04:20
Seveasmohkohn, ;)04:20
frickelubotu tell frickel about terminal04:20
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El_Chemohkohn:  the belgian always win04:20
apoZ`We have quite some dialects04:20
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SeveasapoZ`, don't come complaining in here, there's nothing I can or will do about it and it is very off topic in here04:20
mohkohnExactly04:21
Seveaseither come to #ubuntu-offtopic or talk to me in private04:21
mohkohnI am Australian so I am a neutral observer04:21
apoZ`Seveas,  So you give in to people abusing their admin power ?04:21
apoZ`ok, i'll shut04:21
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aftertafapoZ`:  #ubuntu-offtopic and therell be no pbs talking about it....04:21
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mohkohnGot to go. ttfn04:22
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flagfrancaIs there a way to backup a functional installation of Ubuntu or activate some kind of a "system recover"? Yesterday, after I installed some packages (GTK and a disk defragmenter) and rebooted the machine, the GNOME interface didn't work anymore an I got stuck with a command line interface....04:22
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bpfi'm now running breezy on my amd64 workstation :)04:24
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extreme_work on ttySL004:24
bpfi hope vmware will install and work04:24
extreme_?04:24
Seveasextreme_, wtf are you doing?04:24
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kuangyujingHi. I have a problem.04:26
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kuangyujingDid anyone use Acrobat reader?04:27
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kuangyujingI installed it, but cannot use it.04:27
messjuok. still the question if self-signed certificates are accepted.04:28
messjusrc: wrong chan :(04:28
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aitabdelhello04:28
tritiummorning, nalioths_dog04:28
rob^ltkuangyujing, just use evince04:28
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kuangyujingevince?04:28
rob^ltthe default .pdf viewer in breezy04:29
aitabdelgood after noon04:29
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aftertafgood morning nalioth :)04:29
kuangyujingI like Acrobat Reader, so if i can, I want to use it.04:29
apoZ`Seveas, why do you ignore me in #ubuntu-offtopic04:29
naliothaftertaf: howdy04:29
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aftertafsee you all later... my workday is done and dusted :)04:29
aitabdelcan any one tell me how to configure proxy squid in ubuntu04:29
naliothapoZ`: keep it in -offtopic, please04:30
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rob^ltkuangyujing, just do: sudo apt-get install acroread04:30
Knorrieaitabdel: perhaps here's a start: http://workaround.org/moin/Welcome04:30
aitabdelthanks04:31
kuangyujingok, thanks! I try.04:31
kuangyujingAnd Bye :)04:31
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aitabdelknorrie you are from where04:34
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helpme!info ncbi-tools-x1104:34
ubotuncbi-tools-x11: (NCBI libraries for biology applications (X-based utilities)), section universe/science, is extra. Version: 6.1.20041020-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 788 kB, Installed size: 1672 kB04:34
ThomasM!info cone04:34
aitabdelknorries are you from?04:34
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helpme!info clustalx04:34
ubotuclustalx: ([Biology]  GUI for clustalw), section multiverse/science, is optional. Version: 1.83-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 210 kB, Installed size: 640 kB04:34
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vengefulanyone else had a problem with the latest vlc update?04:34
apokryphoshelpme: please do *not* investigate in the channel, as I've told you already. :)04:35
pgregoryhi, can anyone here tell me what build number of OOo2.0 is on the 5.10 preview?04:35
bpfok, I upgraded from hoary to breezy yesterday and things seem to be working. I now have a Debian menu right under Accessories, is that normal and what the rest of you see on breezy?04:35
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helpmeapokryphos: u r here too:( i cant seem to do it any other way...ubotu say private msgs are blocked....04:36
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tony_the_cable_gHow do I reset the root password?04:36
apokryphoshelpme: register your nick then04:36
naliothubotu: tell tony_the_cable_g about root04:36
helpmeapokryphos: how to do that?? plz guide04:37
naliothhelpme: register yourself04:37
tony_the_cable_gThank you Nalioth04:37
naliothhelpme: /msg nickserv help register04:37
apokryphoshelpme: /msg chanserv register PASSWORD04:37
helpmethanx04:37
helpmeive to go now anyway....goodnight to all:)04:37
naliothapokryphos: time for a beer?04:37
apokryphosnalioth: yes please04:38
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vengefuln/m another update fixed it hehe04:39
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DazeD||lapis there a partitioner built into breezy or should i download one?04:39
tritiumthere is one, DazeD||lap04:40
tritiummorning, apokryphos, nalioth04:40
apokryphosmoin moin04:40
thoreauputichi tritium :)04:40
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DazeD||laptritium, whats it called so i can find it?04:41
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tritiumDazeD||lap: are you going to use the installer, or upgrade from hoary?04:41
naliothhowdy tritium04:42
DazeD||laptritium, im on breezy i need to make another partition...is there like a partition magic or is qt partition built in is what im saying?04:42
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tritiumDazeD||lap: there is qtparted04:42
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rob^ltjust install qtparted04:42
DazeD||lapahhh sweet thank you04:42
tritiumgparted also, DazeD||lap04:42
thoreauputicor gparted04:43
tritium;)04:43
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KenSentMe!info clustalx04:43
ubotuclustalx: ([Biology]  GUI for clustalw), section multiverse/science, is optional. Version: 1.83-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 210 kB, Installed size: 640 kB04:43
ll_so, hey, I'm on breezy and I'm having trouble with openoffice/vlc/mplayer segfaulting04:44
DazeD||laptritium, ahh thanks a bunch i didnt know if it was just the live disc...i can install windows after linux as long as i reinstall the grub with a live cd correct?04:44
foxgamerYes! I have my printer, and it's working fine :)04:44
KenSentMewhen i try to do this in a private conversation with ubotu he doen't give me an answer04:44
ll_from the strace output the all die soon after opening /dev/zero04:44
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ll_is this a known issue?04:44
thoreauputicKenSentMe: have you  registered your nick?04:44
naliothKenSentMe: use packages.ubuntu.com for your searching please04:45
KenSentMeyes04:45
tritiumDazeD||lap: yes.  /msg ubotu intsall for wiki pages regarding various installation methods04:45
tritiuminstall even04:45
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DazeD||lapthanks04:45
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KenSentMenalioth: i knew about that, but was wondering how ubotu would work04:45
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naliothKenSentMe: when you speak with ubotu in PM, dont use !04:45
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KenSentMenalioth: ah, k04:46
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KenSentMenalioth: indeed this works better04:47
vishoekI am so new to Ubuntu I feel really stupid, can someone help me load printer drivers and set up an internet connection and network?04:47
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apoZ`vishoek, pm me04:48
vishoek? pm04:48
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vishoeki am really green04:48
bonesnalioth, how about the internet first?04:48
KenSentMepm = private message04:49
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vishoekhow do i do that?04:49
occyIs Breezy out yet!04:49
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occy;)04:49
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apoZ`vishoek, see other tabs, underneath your type bar04:49
bonesdo you have a modem or cable modem?04:50
KenSentMeoccy: funny04:50
occyKenSentMe, ;)04:50
KenSentMeoccy:D04:50
occycouldn't resist04:50
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occyit's like Christmas!04:50
ll_I updated to breezy and everything was fine.  A few days later I ran an update and immediately the following applications started segfaulting on startup: openoffice, vlc, mplayer.  running strace <app> showed that they were all dying soon after opening /dev/zero.  Now running ldconfig shows 5 warnings about "libpostfix-* is not a symlink.  Any clues on this?04:50
KenSentMeoccy: me 204:50
vishoeknone that I can see04:50
apoZ`Yes there is :)04:50
zoot_hi, is there a way to specify where nautilus stores temporary iso's when burning cd/dvd? (eg. if /tmp is too small for a dvd iso)04:51
bonesis there a plug for a phone line in the back of the machine?04:51
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johnsie2kHi.. I'm having a promblem with mplayer pluguin for mozilla... it skips a lot04:52
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naliothbones: internet first what?04:52
mgkIt possible to connect to a 2003 server via smb?04:52
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vishoekI have a netgear dg834gt uk wireless adsl modem04:53
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rawiramdhanwhat is a good program to copy dvd's04:53
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DazeD||lapwhere is the location of gparted / or qtparted so i can run it from grub?04:54
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ll_mgk: connect how?  to a shared folder?04:55
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vengefulvishoek, what wireless device do you have?04:55
mgkyea04:55
rawiramdhanwhat is a good program to copy dvd's04:55
vengefulthe router shouldnt matter..if its already setup. I have a similar model04:55
vishoekI have a netgear dg834gt uk wireless adsl modem04:56
mgkkeeps prompting me for domain login i enter it and it just kicks me back04:56
vengefulyes but what wireless card do you have04:56
apoZ`vishoek, Seen your nickname your system is probably dutch ?04:56
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occyrawiramdhan, good question.04:56
occyrawiramdhan, but don't repeat it please.04:56
vengefulare you using the wirelessw or just plugging into lan?04:56
seliniumvishoek, nice04:56
vishoekno i am in south africa, cape town04:57
ll_mgk: go to places>connect to server04:57
vishoekusing wireless, pci card04:57
ll_its on the top menu bar04:57
rawiramdhanoccy: Some ppl joined after my question may-b 1 of them knew.04:57
apoZ`vishoek, We speak kind the same language :)04:57
vengefulok i take it you have the router connected to the phone line04:57
vengefulright?04:57
occyrawiramdhan, heh, still, there are 597 peple in here...04:57
occyrawiramdhan, you don't need to repeat.04:57
ll_mgk: the server you're trying to access is on a domain, correct?04:57
occyrawiramdhan, I would like to know how to do that under Linux too.04:58
naliothrawiramdhan: a good rule of thumb. wait 5 minutes between the same question04:58
seliniumvengeful, if you have any probs, i have the same box04:58
mgkyes04:58
vengefulsorry?04:58
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mgkhah that worked04:58
rawiramdhannalioth: owke..04:58
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vishoekhow do i register my nick?04:59
mgkthanks04:59
naliothvishoek: /msg nickserv help register04:59
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kemikvishoek:  msg nickserv help04:59
vengefulgah firget the nick,..lets get the router working04:59
axeusI'm having trouble connecting to the wireless at College.04:59
vengefulaxeus04:59
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vishoekok, what do i do to get the router working?04:59
vengefulwhat are you using?04:59
axeusIt's WPA encrypted, so I just try to set the key as ASCII with the key goflupadups04:59
axeusifup/ifdown05:00
vengefulvishoek, have you got the router plugged into the phone line?05:00
ll_had anyone had trouble with openoffice/vlc/mplayer segfaulting at startup on breezy?  If so I'd be interested to hear about it05:00
axeussetting /etc/net/interfaces05:00
axeusthen using ifup/ifdown05:00
seliniumvengeful, if you have any probs, i have the same wireless router05:00
axeusI just say05:00
vishoeknetgear wireless 834 gt adsl05:00
vengefulyeh ubuntu doesnt have wpa out of the box05:00
vengefulanyone got a link for him?05:00
axeusCrap. :)05:00
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vengefulactually i think i have the link05:00
vishoekthe router is plugged in05:00
kevorArg, there are bugs in the version of Gaim that comes with Breezy05:00
axeusCool @ Vengeful.05:01
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JazzCrazedmornin05:01
vengefulaxeus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto?highlight=%28wpa%2905:01
vengefultry that05:01
johnsie2kAnyone know how to stop mplayer- mozilla plugin from skipping?05:01
vengefulvishoek, have you started to config it yet?05:01
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axeusThanks. :)05:02
axeusVengeful.05:02
vengefulaxeus i have not tried it yet...im still using wep..let me know how it goes05:02
JazzCrazedmight ne1 answer this stupid question: when mounting a network share via the places menu, how do i navigate to it in a save/open dialog?05:02
axeusOk.05:02
apoZ`Question : Does anyone know how to connect my syncstation for my mobile with my pc ?05:02
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eazel7hi ppl05:04
rawiramdhanwhat is a good program to copy dvd's?05:04
eazel7I'm having a simple but disturbing trouble05:04
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flagfrancahello all05:04
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FlendorHello05:05
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eazel7there's invalid utf somewhere in the configuration, and I must change my username info to something else05:05
flagfrancawhere I can find W32 videocodecs and how I install them in Ubuntu?05:05
ll_rawiramdhan: I use burn, its in apt.  I don't write DVDs, however05:05
eazel7how can I (through console) change my user details?05:05
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JazzCrazedne1 kno how to navigate to a mounted windows share in a save/open dialog?05:05
Bad_Magicflagfranca: sudo apt-get w32codecs05:06
Bad_Magici believe05:06
apokryphosnope; it's not in the repositories05:06
JazzCrazedi've mounted one via the places menu, and it shows up in my desktop, but i am unable to find it in a save/open dialog in applications (such as writer)05:06
Bad_Magici could have sworn it was05:06
Bad_Magicnot the default ones, but universe05:06
apokryphoslong ago, yes05:06
apokryphos!w32codecs05:06
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)05:06
Bad_Magicwhen did they remove it?05:07
Ngwtd05:07
Bad_Magici just installed them like 2 months ago, i think05:07
TiMiDoCool Bad_Magic05:08
naliothBad_Magic: it has been w/i that time05:08
vengefullol05:08
vengefulthat was a good guess nalioth05:08
vengeful:-D05:09
JazzCrazedbad_magic: they took it down recently due to legal issues05:09
JazzCrazedhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74622&highlight=w32codecs05:09
flagfrancayesterday I experienced a major system crash after the installation of GTKLib and a disk defragmenter for Linux....I rebooted the machine and the GNOME GUI wasnt able to start anymore, leaving me stuck in a command line environment....What happened cause I had to reinstall the entire system again....Is there a way to backup a functional Ubuntu installation or do some kind of a "system recover"?05:09
rawiramdhanwhat is a good program to copy dvd's?05:09
Ngftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ is the best place to get w32codecs packages05:10
JazzCrazedrawiramdhan: have u tried gnome bake?05:10
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Ngnot some random URL in ubotu :/05:10
apokryphosNg: why?05:10
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rawiramdhanJazzCrazed: No I will, thanx:D05:10
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Ngapokryphos: do you know who's site those tinyurl links go to? I don't, who is it? are they reliable? will they keep them updated? are they safe? etc.05:10
apokryphosNg: the one provided is perfectly fine, and the packages provided are the same ones that were in hoary-extras, and multiverse before that.05:10
JazzCrazedraw: i haven't used it for dvds nor for copying for that matter, but it seems fairly capable05:11
apokryphosNg: yes to all of those05:11
Ngapokryphos: where do I report bugs with them? etc.05:11
Ngapokryphos: do they have an apt source?05:11
Ngetc etc. it's just more duplication for no benefit imo05:11
apokryphosno apt source, no apt repo05:11
wolf1hi, how can i prevent a user to access directories of another user.05:11
apokryphosNg: the reason marillat isn't used is that you shouldn't *in general* have it enabled at all05:12
apokryphosNg: many cases of broken systems; ubuntu varies too much from debian as it is05:12
Ngapokryphos: I agree, but if whoever's that site is isn't going to run an source, why not just lift the package from the url I gave and not bother remaking/redistributing it?05:12
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flagfrancaIs there a way to perform a system recover in Ubuntu when a system crash happens?05:13
naliothNg: get the files straight from www.mplayerhq.hu on the download page05:13
apokryphosNg: believe it or not, there's really nothing to it -- the deb just contains the plain codecs and puts them in a folder05:13
vishoeki am on the web on my laptop at the moment, just loaded ubuntu onto my pc,05:13
Ngflagfranca: ext3 filesystems should repair themselves when you reboot05:14
Ngnalioth: do they ship a .deb? if so, sure05:14
Ngapokryphos: I know, which is my entire point!05:14
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naliothNg: the files are hosted in debs, b/c some people cant use the archive from mplayer05:14
Ngyou guys are missing my point05:14
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naliothNg: they come in a folder. you put them where they belong05:14
apokryphosand because debs are so much simpler05:14
aitabdelwere to download squid package05:14
naliothaitabdel: use synaptic05:14
Ngnalioth: please stop explaining that to me, I know what w32codecs is05:14
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apokryphosnot missing the point; you think that it's a huge advantage to have the bug-reporting and deb-src for w32codecs05:15
apokryphoswhich I find... suffice it to say, pretty strange05:15
kemikuhm... w32codecs isin extras05:15
ccfielhello ppl05:15
naliothNg: there is no source for w32codecs05:15
apokryphoskemik: yes, we know 8)05:15
NgI think it's a huge disadvantage to have lots of repositories, especially ones with no contact details or suchlike05:15
naliothkemik: they are not05:15
ccfielim using xfce for my windows manager. how do i add a printer?05:15
vishoeki am lost vengeful05:15
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Ngnalioth: I know05:15
apokryphosNg: so voila! We don't recommend you add another repo05:15
kemik[kemik@edge ~]  apt-cache search w32codecs05:15
kemikw32codecs - win32 binary codecs05:15
kemiksorry about the paste ;) but i had to05:15
Ngapokryphos: you recommend some random url instead of a maintained repository? err ;)05:16
naliothNg: it is not a randome URL, heh05:16
Ngnalioth: sure it is05:16
apokryphosNg: the "random url" contains the same packages the actual Ubuntu repositories used05:16
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flagfrancaNg: yesterday it didnt happen....the system returned, yes, but in command line mode and the GNOME interface wasnt available anymore....why?05:16
naliothNg: it is not. you are speaking to the owner now05:16
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Ngflagfranca: did you get any errors?05:16
JazzCrazedi've mounted a couple of windows shares via Places->Connect to Server, and I'm trying to open files from it in inkscape, but i can't seem to find out how to navigate to the shares via the open dialog... any suggestions?05:16
apokryphosNg: and suffice it to say shipping w32codecs has obvious legal problems05:16
Ngnalioth: I figured as much, but I had to guess that05:16
twibblerI would just like to say. Breezy is looking really really good .....05:17
naliothNg: we do not recommend 'random" anything here05:17
Bad_Magicthats what ill do before school05:17
Bad_Magicbreezy update05:17
Bad_Magic=005:17
kemiki dont see what the fuss is about the stuff is in extras05:17
kemikfuzz?05:17
kemikfuss?05:17
Bad_Magicbrb booting mr ubuntu05:17
Ngnalioth: how many different -extra, -backports, java, w32codecs, etc. repositories have appeared and disappeared in the hoary lifecycle? ok not as many as, say, fedora, but still too many05:17
flagfrancaNg: yeah...after the installation of GTK and a diskdefrag utility, when the sys returned in command line mode, there was some errors related to dev or hdc mounting problems and root problems05:17
naliothNg: be flexible. things change05:18
apokryphosNg: there's valid reasons for practically all of those. If you knew them, I doubt you'd be complaining really05:18
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Ngnalioth: I am flexible, I can make debian/ubuntu packages just fine, I am looking at this from the pov of a new user to whom words like "repository", "deb" and so on mean nothing. Instilling into them that it's ok to just download a .deb someone gives you a URL to, doesn't seem helpful for users who don't already know better05:18
xxtremeC-n05:19
thoreauputicNg: what solution do you suggest for people who want legally iffy packages then?05:19
wolf1hi could someone assist me please.  how can i prevent a user to access another user's directories.05:19
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Ngthoreauputic: a single, trusted repository in a country where they are legal would be ideal, something like non-US really05:20
ccfielim using xfce for my windows manager. how do i add a printer?05:21
thoreauputicNg: I see - yes , sounds reasonable but would need some consensus I guess05:21
Ngflagfranca: does it boot as far as a login?05:21
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naliothNg: the server is in a non-US country05:21
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Bad_Magic!breezy05:21
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:21
Ngthoreauputic: indeed, if not tacit approval from ubuntu, which would be hard because it goes against their principles to some extent05:21
naliothNg: the powers that be do not want 'legally iffy' stuff directly associated with them05:21
vengefulcant blame em for that ;-)05:22
zoot_hi, is there a way to specify where nautilus stores temporary iso's when duplicating cd/dvd? ie when you right-click on a cd and choose copy disc (eg. if /tmp is too small for a dvd iso) - other burners can copy on the fly? even with a separate reader and writer, nautilus creates an image on disk first?? not very efficient05:22
thoreauputicNg: not just principles - they have to be careful about legalities too - hence the state of flux of backports/extras05:22
Ngnalioth: of course, I catagorically do not want Ubuntu to sell out their principles for the convenience of shipping java :)05:22
kemikis there any legal mumbojumbo about VLC?05:22
kemikif not, why not use VLC instead of totem and all is well ? :)05:22
Ngkemik: if it includes patent encumbered en/decoders, yes05:22
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Ngflagfranca: does your machine boot as far as a text login?05:23
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thoreauputickemik: vlc is very good, but still lacks some codecs05:23
kemikit's illegal to decode stuff that's been patented.. ? ( i mean if i come up with my own decoding scheme?)05:23
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kemikthoreauputic:  totem lacks all of them ;)05:23
thoreauputickemik: that's being worked on05:23
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Ngkemik: there are various legal issues involved, it may be that a patent prevents a Free version, which stops it being in Ubuntu, it may also be that the codecs are being distributed outside of their license agreement05:23
kemikyeah.. im sure.. but vlc is way ahead, and being worked on05:24
thoreauputickemik: it's  a catch-up game though, like free java05:24
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flagfrancaNg: not exactly...It begins with some text messages then jumps to the ubuntu splash screen05:24
Bad_Magichmm05:24
Ngkemik: e.g. I bet most of the codecs in w32codecs say "not for redistribution" (or similar) in their EULA05:24
basti__If I set up a share in Samba do I need to create a new user to access the share?05:24
Bad_Magicanyone have a known to be valid breezy sources.list?05:24
kemikNg:  yeah probably.. but in VLC, afaik they dont use w32codecs but 'their own shit' ... that wouldbe legal tho ?05:24
thoreauputic!sources05:24
ubotusources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)05:24
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picassois breezy the new one05:25
noirequuspicasso: yes it is05:25
noirequuscyl05:25
Ngkemik: possibly, the patents could still prevent it though. You'd need to consult a lawyer to get a valid answer really05:25
picassosweet so i can switch out my sources.lst and upgrade right now?05:25
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noirequusubotu: tell picasso about upgrade2breezy05:26
picassogracias05:26
kemikshould i report that Rhythmbox.0.9.0 depends on totem-xine|totem-gstreamer as a bug to the maintainer ?05:27
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ccfielhello ppl05:27
kemikit's so not-right to make that dependency. imo it bloats the pacakge05:27
Bad_Magicand away breezy goes05:27
kemik*package05:27
ccfielwho is using here xfce window manager?05:27
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vengefulme05:28
ccfielvengeful: how do i add printer in xfce?05:29
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florian___hi, how to exclude multiple files from tarring an archive?05:29
vengefulnever said i had a printer05:29
vengefulwhich i dont heh05:29
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Ashimsyo... anyone got any idea how to get cdfs working in breezy?05:29
ccfieli have successfully added a printer in gnome. but in xfce i connot find any05:29
picassowhy does the topic say breezy isnt out yet?05:29
ompaulpicasso, cos it is not released yet?05:30
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Pygi:D05:30
thoreauputicpicasso: because it isn't the 13th every where yet?05:30
apoZ`Any good translate programs ????05:30
picassooh05:30
cybermikeHow do i install libdvdcs on ubuntu?05:30
Bad_Magicsemantics05:30
Ashimsanyone know how to get cdfs working at all?05:30
picassoheh i dono05:30
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picassobut i can apt-get dist-upgrade and upgrade my system?05:30
Bad_Magicdownload it anyway, worst case you get a couple patches tomorrow05:30
kemik!tell cybermike about restricted05:30
Bad_Magic=P05:30
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Bad_Magicpicasso: im doing it right now05:30
ompaulthoreauputic, is it tomorrow with you yet?05:30
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mbirkishow long time will it go before hoary is unmaintained after breezy is released?05:31
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picasso856 upgraded, 283 newly installed, 37 to remove and 1 not upgraded.05:31
thoreauputicompaul: no from where I sit it's today ;P05:31
ricardobuenos dias05:31
Bad_Magici think its 18 months mbirkis05:31
picassothat's a lot of packages :P05:31
ompaulhaha :)05:31
mbirkisBad_Magic: thnx05:31
ricardouy sorry05:31
thoreauputicThu Oct 13 01:31:25 EST 200505:31
PygiI think 12 months....6 months passed :P05:31
thoreauputic:D05:31
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ricardoXD05:31
Bad_Magiceither way05:31
johnsie2kAnyone know how to stop the Mplayer browser plugin from skipping?05:31
ompaulahh so it is tomorrow :)  Wed Oct 12 16:31:49 IST 200505:31
Bad_Magicno worries05:31
Bad_Magic=P05:31
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Ashimsanyone know what this means "insmod: error inserting 'cdfs.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module"05:32
prowerI assume Breezy's ISO and the repository packages wil lcome out at the same time :>05:32
DazeD_hey how come i cant resize my linux partition and/or make a new partition?05:32
apoZ`Any good translate programs ???? Dutch to french05:32
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apoZ`Any good translate programs ???? Dutch to french05:32
DazeD_do i have to do it from a live disc?05:32
Bad_Magicwhy cant you dazed?05:32
DazeD_it wont letme05:32
Bad_Magici would assume you just run qparted as root05:32
cybermikekemik: thanks05:32
ompaulprower the repo stuff will be used to make the disk05:33
PygiapoZ...I would suggest google :P05:33
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DazeD_Bad_Magic, i did05:33
flagfrancaibrasil: teclas de onde, meu irmo?05:33
Bad_Magicyou sure you ran as root/sudo ?05:33
ibrasilflagfranca, erechim - RS05:33
prowerompaul: Ahh, okay...I figured the ones in the repository would still be RC105:33
DazeD_Bad_Magic, yes im sure05:33
prower(At this time)05:33
Bad_Magicthen i have no idea =x05:33
flagfrancaibrasil: So Paulo / SP05:33
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flagfrancaibrasil: usa h muito tempo o ubuntu....pq eu estou apanhando aqui ;)05:34
DazeD_i bet i have to run it from a live disc05:34
Bad_Magicholy crap long breezy download05:34
JazzCrazeddoes anybody here use their ubuntu box to access shares on a windows 2000 server machine?05:34
thoreauputic!br05:34
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.05:34
ibrasilflagfranca, uma semana apenas05:34
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chrisx1hey05:34
chrisx1any1 here?05:34
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Bad_Magicplenty of people here05:34
Bad_Magicsup05:34
chrisx1kk05:34
chrisx1how do i start ssh server?05:35
Bad_Magicsshd05:35
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chrisx1like everythime it boots?05:35
thoreauputicchrisx1: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start05:35
Bad_Magicassuming you have installed it05:35
Bad_Magicit should be started every boot if its in init.d05:35
thoreauputicchrisx1: it does that anyway on boot05:35
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chrisx1kk sec05:35
thoreauputicchrisx1: install openssh-server05:35
chrisx1i sm05:36
chrisx1*am05:36
apoZ`JazzCrazed, I use ubuntu to acces shares on XP05:36
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chrisx1this is based off debian?05:36
spiralhi05:36
Bad_Magic ubuntu? yes05:36
Pygiyes :P05:36
chrisx1thought so05:36
chrisx1i installed it05:37
apoZ`Q : any good translation programs ???05:37
PygiI am going to try portage on ubuntu tho :P05:37
Bad_Magicit should be running05:37
JazzCrazedapoZ: i've mounted a couple via the places menu05:37
chrisx1failed to start05:37
JazzCrazedand can see them on the desktop05:37
JazzCrazedbut i cannot locate them in open/save dialogs in apps05:37
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apoZ`Impossible :)05:37
apoZ`my problem to05:37
apoZ`for what ap ?05:37
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JazzCrazedso far, inkscape, and writer05:37
Pygiwhat is impossible?05:37
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usuario_someone how can i pass the mail configuration of evolution and her mail to another user?05:37
JazzCrazedtho i presume they both use the same gnome open/save dialog05:37
JazzCrazedpygi: access windows shares mounted via the places menu in open/save dialogs05:38
apoZ`It's weird05:38
chrisx1sec started now ta05:38
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Pygioh05:38
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apoZ`JazzCrazed, if you find it, tell me please :)05:38
JazzCrazedi also tried adding it to my fstab per ubuntuguide.org05:38
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JazzCrazedbut i get a wrong file system type error05:38
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JazzCrazedapoz: gladly :)05:39
ricardocan any say if whe i install a virtual machine like vmware over windows, and i install a distro , can i make a partition with cylinders?05:39
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Crys_WinDudes, this sucks.05:39
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sekunde1hi! just one stupid question. I'm runing glxgears and demo is running but where is framerate?05:39
Ngsekunde1: breezy?05:39
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seliniumapoZ`, So you are back then!!05:39
Crys_WinI'm havng trouble getting grub to install.05:40
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sekunde1Ng*05:40
sekunde1Ng?05:40
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Ngsekunde1: are you running breezy or hoary?05:40
sekunde15.1005:40
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sekunde1the latest preview05:40
bpfsekunde1, you need to pass in a parameter. i can't remember it offhand because it is rediculously long and silly05:40
Bad_Magicsekundel: it should output it in the terminal05:40
Ngsekunde1: ok, that's breezy. I think the glxgears there is not outputting the fps by default anymore05:40
Ngalthough the update this morning indicated it was back in05:40
Bad_Magicah hah!05:40
Bad_Magic=x05:40
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sekunde1hm so that's the problem05:41
sekunde1cause I does not output anything05:41
Ngyeah05:41
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Ngmine also runs incredibly slowly ;)05:41
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sekunde1maybe anyone know this parameter05:41
thoreauputicNg: try something like glxgears --Iacknowledgethisnotabenchmark05:41
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bpfthat sounds about right05:41
bipolarsekunde1, it's something like... yeah... what thoreauputic said05:41
thoreauputicforget the exact wording *g*05:41
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Ngthoreauputic: haha, that's fantastic ;)05:41
thoreauputic:D05:42
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basti__Is there any gui where I can configure users for the smb share?05:42
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dockanehi all05:42
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sekunde1nice joke05:42
Ngit's almost like jwz writes glxgears ;)05:42
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sekunde1ok now anybody know because there's no man at all05:43
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sekunde1the onyl parameter is -info05:43
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Ngcmsj@chris:~ $ strings `which glxgears` | grep bench05:43
Ng-iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark05:43
Ng:)05:43
thoreauputicNg: nicely done :) Good tip05:44
bpfrunning glxgears on breezy, i get this error and no output:05:44
Bad_Magiclol05:44
bpfXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"05:44
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syli725hi, i get this in the partitioning of installation process. input/ouput error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. what to do? safe to ignore? or i won't be able to install.05:44
occyhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/30083-ubuntu-8.png  <-- wow, super cool Ubuntu background05:44
Ngthoreauputic: :)05:44
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andrilhello all05:46
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sekunde1ok i found it05:46
sekunde1but fps i kinda slow05:46
sekunde1500fps05:46
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NavysharkHelp! I have now downloaded opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb how do i install it?05:46
vengefulwhy the hell would you05:47
deFrysksudo dpkg -i05:47
Ngsekunde1: mine is running very slow too, I think they've done it deliberately to stop people using it to test their speed05:47
vengefulapt_get  , synaptic?05:47
syli725hi, i get this in the partitioning of installation process. input/ouput error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. what to do? safe to ignore? or i won't be able to install.05:47
deFryskNavyshark, sudo dpkg -i <package>05:47
syli725My another computer is still waiting for an answer. thanks.05:47
sekunde1Ng ;)05:47
sekunde1I gues I should try some game to test05:48
thoreauputicsyli725: I/O errors often indicate a hardware problem IIRC05:48
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syli725thoreauputic, yeah, i think that is hardware problem too. so what to do?05:48
DazeD||lapso why cant i make or adjust my linux partition ... do i need to do on a live disc?05:48
thoreauputicsyli725: umm... buy a new disc?05:48
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thoreauputicsyli725: or check it for badblocks05:49
thoreauputicsyli725: man fdisk ?05:49
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syli725thoreauputic, i am in the middle of installation ubuntu processs. what to do now? just cancel the installation process?05:49
bpfwhere do I find what graphics card I have installed?05:50
DazeD||lapanyone?05:50
thoreauputicsyli725: why? If it installs OK you are probably alright05:50
bpfxorg.conf?05:50
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syli725thoreauputic, i got that error. asked me "Retry, Ignore, Cancel" . what to do?05:50
thoreauputicsyli725: if not, maybe a new disc is indicated05:50
syli725thoreauputic, retry doesn't work.05:50
thoreauputicsyli725: I would retry,05:50
thoreauputicah05:50
bpfnm, got it05:50
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thoreauputictry ignore and pray a lot I guess05:51
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deFrysksyli725, try installing again ignore never works05:51
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Sarkieinstalled Jsdk but Java command is still "gij",05:52
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Sarkie??05:52
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deFryskgij ?05:52
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thoreauputicSarkie: is the new one linked in your $PATH ?05:52
tony_the_cable_gHow do I get rid of Totem as my default player and apply MPlayer as default?05:52
DazeD||lapto adjust my linux partition ... do i need to do it from a live disc?05:52
thoreauputicdeFrysk: free java = gij etc05:52
Sarkiewoulndt the deb have done that05:52
Sarkie?05:52
syli725deFrysk, thanks. it gave me some instructions. but that doesn't really help. but whateve.r05:52
pmjhi want to install w32codecs but i see them as a virtual package, how could i do to install 'em?05:53
deFrysksyli725, missing deps ?05:53
apoZ`Help : I need a translation program : Dutch - French05:53
Bad_Magic!w32codecs05:53
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)05:53
Sarkiethoreauputic, how I do that please?05:53
deFryskNavyshark, please dont private05:53
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pmjubotu: thanx05:53
ubotupmj: bitte05:53
apoZ`Repeat : Help : I need a translation program : Dutch - French05:53
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thoreauputicSarkie: do you know howto make a symlink?  sudo ln -s /existing/path /path/to/link05:54
syli725deFrysk, what do you mean? i think i will run some partition tool to scan my current partition then.05:54
DazeD||lapso does no one listen anymore?05:54
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apokryphosapoZ`: quit flooding05:54
thoreauputicSarkie: echo $PATH to see what your path is05:54
deFrysksyli725, i did not advise you on partitioning ?05:54
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apokryphosthoreauputic: I think he installed the .deb05:54
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SarkieI did apokryphos05:54
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Sarkiemy paths aer /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin05:55
thoreauputicapokryphos: ah, that's different - wouldn't that be in the PATH ?05:55
apokryphosmake what in the path though?05:55
syli725deFrysk, yeah, i am on the partitioning. it told me some partition overlapped with WINNT.... i am going to abort the installation and use some other tool to partition it05:55
Navysharkdefrysk, I got this msg root@Servar:~ # sudo dpkg -i opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb i05:55
Navysharkdpkg: error processing opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb (--install):05:55
Navyshark cannot access archive: No such file or directory05:55
Navysharkdpkg: error processing i (--install):05:55
Navyshark cannot access archive: No such file or directory05:55
NavysharkErrors were encountered while processing:05:55
Navyshark opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb05:55
apokryphosSarkie: I presume you also want the j2re -- did you install it05:55
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thoreauputicSarkie: what command are you running that defaults to gij?05:55
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Bad_Magicoh boy new x05:56
Bad_Magicnew gnome05:56
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Bad_Magicoh boy05:56
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Sarkieshouldnt jdk come with java, Im running "java" as in to run my class programs05:56
Phil197hello again05:56
DazeD||lapCAN anyone HELP me with partitioning???05:56
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Sarkiesorry if its different05:56
apokryphosSarkie: install the j2re and the jdk05:56
Phil197did someone install wine on his ubuntu distro?05:56
Sarkiehmm05:56
M3ocs-D4rksunhi everypeople who use ubuntu05:56
Bad_Magic!java05:56
ubotuI guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java05:56
Crys_WinHey, does anyone have default booting from grub?05:56
thoreauputicDazeD||lap: ask specific questions, don't just whinge05:56
Crys_Winhoary I mean05:56
tony_the_cable_g How do I get rid of Totem as my default player and apply MPlayer as default? Thank you.05:57
Crys_WinDoes anyone have hoary 5.04 booting from grub with the default install?05:57
chrisx1Can i Ask What XDMCP is?05:57
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DazeD||lapthoreauputic, i have been asking for about 10 minutes no ones paying attention...i try to partition using qtparted and gparted and they both wont let me resize my linux partition even under root do i need to use  a live cd so the partition is not mounted05:57
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thoreauputictony_the_cable_g: you can define default apps in the right click menu for a file under properties05:57
Sarkiethanx apokryphos and thoreauputic, just in my win install, jdk installs java as defualt05:57
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deFrysktony_the_cable_g, rightklick <thefile> go to properties and set it to run to whatever app you wish05:57
Crys_WinI DazeD||lapI have never been able to resize a partition.05:58
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deFrysktony_the_cable_g, in nautilus that is05:58
ccfielhello ppl05:58
DazeD||lapCrys_Win, so what do you do...how do u add a partition?05:58
thoreauputicDazeD||lap: did it occur to you that no one might be ble to help at the moment? 10 minutes is not long05:58
Sarkieshould my paths be like, multiple entries?? and none point to java lib address?05:58
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Crys_WinDazeD||lap: I make sure to have extra space.05:58
ccfielhow do i run nuetilus without desktop. i want to used it as file manger in my xfce05:59
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thoreauputicccfiel:  nautilus --no-desktop05:59
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DazeD||lapCrys_Win, thats horrible...so im screwed since i didn't leave extra space??05:59
deFryskccfiel, nautilus --no-deskop05:59
DazeD||lapCrys_Win, have you tried when using a live disc05:59
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Crys_WinDazeD||lap: by my system, yeah, your done for. Someone else might know.05:59
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Crys_WinI'll see you guys all later.06:00
paxmastertrouble burning dvd in hoary06:00
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DazeD||lapthoreauputic, ten miinutes is a long time when people ask a question ever 2 seconds in this room...and my text gets erased within 45 seconds06:00
paxmasteri can burn dvd to dvd06:00
andrildoes anyone know how to add TTF fonts?06:00
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tarzeauandril: throw them in /usr/share/fonts/ ?06:01
Ngandril: you can just drop them into a .fonts directory in your home06:01
deFryskandril, sudo apt-get install msttfonts06:01
andriltarzeau: thanks06:01
andrilNg: would this make them available system wide?06:01
neighborleeI can't get auto-apt to work based on both wiki doc and the man page and wondering if anyone else is having trouble, and if so knows what the fix is if any ?06:01
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Ngandril: no, you'd need to put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype or so for that :)06:02
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andrildeFrysk: I have my own (123) graffiti fonts06:02
paxmastercan someone help me,06:02
ccfielthoreauputic: thanks. but in xfce i can no see my flash disk or usb disk. using nautilus. how will see the content of it06:02
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deFryskandril, i see06:02
apoZ`Repeat : Help : I need a translation program : Dutch - French06:02
neighborleepaxmaster, hi waz up06:02
coolkevwill breazy be released 12:00 am on Thursday06:02
ccfielthoreauputic: thanks. but in xfce i can no see my flash disk or usb disk. using nautilus. how will see the content of it06:02
thoreauputic_ccfiel: that's a gnome volume manager thing IIRC06:03
paxmasterproblem burning dvd06:03
basti__!samba06:03
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:03
andrilNg: thanks again06:03
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paxmasteri want a file (4.3 to burn in to a dvd06:04
coolkevwhen breazy is released, how will i make the transistion from haroy to breazy? will i hav eot down iso and re-install or type some command and it'll happen?06:04
deFryskcoolkev, /topic06:04
apokryphoscoolkev: alter one file, enter one command06:04
coolkevhoary*06:04
thoreauputic!breezy06:04
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:04
ccfielthoreauputic: what do you mean. but when im in gnome i can see my usb disk using nautilus but in xfce i can not06:04
ibrasilanyone help me? i instaled w32codecs but dont see imges, only sounds and a blue screen06:05
coolkevthank you thoreauputic06:05
thoreauputicccfiel: because the gnome volume mangaer isn't running in xfce06:05
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coolkevand thank you ubotu06:05
sector10xxtreme: Hi06:05
neighborleepaxmaster, what command are you using and if any what errors are you getting...we really need 'more' info ;-)06:05
ccfielthoreauputic: ic how can i run it?06:05
thoreauputicccfiel: I think you can have the gnome features start up in xfce4 - look in the config GUI06:05
xxtremesector10_ whats up06:05
thoreauputici'm using fluxbox atm06:05
ccfielthoreauputic: ok thanks06:06
ccfielfluxbox? what that? is that a windows manager?06:06
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paxmasterwell i am using k3b software to burn, I can burn cds06:06
sector10xxtreme: trying to stop spam just now06:06
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xxtremesector10 pm me when finish06:06
sector10ok06:07
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zeke1can anybody help me with my ati drivers...i get this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed...i re-installed ubuntu again and same problem???06:08
paxmasteri have burn knoppix dvd to dvd it work fine but I made a backup with tar using split command. The file that i want to burn is 4.3 GB06:08
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thoreauputicccfiel: apt-cache show fluxbox :)06:08
paxmasterit don't work06:08
ccfielbrb06:09
CredHello. Could someone help me a bit with DVD playback. When I start to play a movie, everything lags. The movie, mouse, windows. I have updated system to Breezy just moments ago. As far as I can tell, configurations should be ok.06:10
SarkieCred, so is that a question or a statement06:10
Sarkie?06:10
Iam8upCred - this isn't the windows support channel - ask somewhere else, such as guru3d.com06:10
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apoZ`can anyone help me with installing cedega ?06:10
Iam8upSarkie - statement...06:10
Dreamgliderhow can i make a boot floppy in Ubuntu06:10
paxmasteri have burn knoppix dvd to dvd it work fine but I made a backup with tar using split command. The file that i want to burn is 4.3 GB  and the that i am using is 4.706:10
SarkieIam8up, i thought so06:10
Iam8upSarkie - the lack of question marks = statement, although he is asking us through the form of a statement which is really annoying =/06:11
SarkieI noticed06:11
CredOk well sorry. Does anyone here have an idea why it lags?06:11
Iam8upCred - what's your hardware?06:11
Sarkiebut you updated it, now it doesnt?06:11
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Iam8upwhat software are you using to playback dvds?06:11
paxmasterdon't work for now i am using scp to transfer the file to a mac osx and burn it06:11
apoZ`Anyone knows more about cedega ?06:11
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SarkieapoZ`, in what sense?06:11
NoUse!cedega06:11
ubotuhelp for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page06:11
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CredI use Totem. A7N 2, R9500, Barton 2500+, 512 CL2.0. With Hoary there was no problems after enabling DMA.06:12
pmjwhat's wrong with this entry in my sources.list, 'cause apt just keep ignoring it http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ main contrib non-free06:12
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Iam8upCred - don't use totem (if that's dvd playback software) use powerdvd, it's great for dvd playback06:13
Iam8upor bsplayer, or best yet - VLC06:13
apoZ`Sarkie,  nevermind06:13
thoreauputicpmj: it isn't a repo - it is there to download debs06:13
paxmasterre:06:13
frank23pmj:  you need deb before06:13
Sarkietheres a linux version of powerdvd!06:13
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thoreauputicpmj: if you need java, w32codecs etc download them and install with  sudo dpkg -i <package>06:14
ibrasilhow to fix this error? "Totem could not startup. ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program"06:14
kemikSarkie:  really ?06:14
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ibrasili tried to open a movie06:14
Sarkieibrasil, turn off any sound programs you are using06:14
pmjthoreauputic: okay thanks, why can't i use it as a repository?06:14
thoreauputicibrasil: try  killall esd and run it again06:14
shermanatoris breezy out yet :D lol just pulling your legs06:14
CredIam8up, VLC lags just the same way.06:14
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Sarkie Cred - don't use totem (if that's dvd playback software) use powerdvd,06:14
[virii] hey how do i install ncurses on ubuntu06:14
thoreauputicpmj: it isn't confured as a repository06:15
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thoreauputic*configured06:15
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pmjthoreauputic: all right, tanks06:15
ibrasilthoreauputic, thanks, it work now and my ubuntu is perctly functional06:15
apoZ`I've got a cd to translate words from dutch to french.  I need it hard.. How can i use it ?06:15
Iam8upCred - you ahve a problem outside of your hardware and dvd playback app, more then likly something else is running -- try running VLC in high priority06:15
thoreauputicpmj: apt repos have to be configured a certain way06:15
thoreauputicibrasil: esd gets in the way at times06:15
ibrasilhow to fix it permanetly?06:16
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thoreauputicibrasil: I use dmix and alsa06:16
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thoreauputicibrasil: there's a config tutorial on the alsa site IIRC06:16
tony_the_cable_gI changed that already and it still opens with Totem.06:17
ibrasilok06:17
yuachthey, i get an "server caught signal 11" using latest breezy, upgraded some packages recently (from breezy to breezy if you get me) and now the X server wont start, worked wonders before06:17
thoreauputicaha06:17
thoreauputic!dmix06:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin06:17
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thoreauputicibrasil: the bot just spat out the URL06:17
_foodcomanWhat repo has the w32codec?06:17
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thoreauputic!w32codecs06:18
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)06:18
_foodcomanthoreauputic: thanks, you rock!06:18
shermanator!libdvdcss206:18
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, shermanator06:18
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shermanator!libdvdcss06:18
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, shermanator06:18
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thoreauputic!dvd06:19
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras06:19
thoreauputic!hoary-extras06:19
ubotuhmm... hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:19
shermanatorahhh06:20
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shermanatornot that this current install on my old celery 600mhz laptop will take dvds well... thats a task for my p4 i think06:21
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buulianokay... i think i'm in06:21
don-ohow many hours until breezy?06:21
Blissexcheck the /topic06:21
Dreamglideri have Ubuntu on both me DELL8300 and my toshiba satellite 1900 pc's and on both boxes i cannot access/mount the floppy drive i get this error on both boxes "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"06:21
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thoreauputicbuulian: you are in indeed :)06:22
buulianthoreauputic- are there any good flash alternatives?06:22
BlissexDreamglider: thats amazingly funny.06:22
digger3Hi, what is the package called to graphically change your boot settings in breezy?06:22
thoreauputicbuulian: not sure what you mean06:22
johnsie2kif  Ubuntu didnt detect my wireless network card shoul I use ndiswrapper?06:22
NoUsedigger3 are you refering to bum?06:22
BlissexDreamglider: as in very unlikely. Are you sure you put in a valid formatted floppy in?06:22
shermanatorare you *sure* it didnt johnsie2k?06:22
DreamgliderBlissex, i tried 5 floppys, on both pc's06:23
digger3NoUse: uhm, no 'grub' actually :)06:23
johnsie2kwell it didnt come up on my list of networking devices06:23
buulianthoreauputic- i tried to use wine to run macromedia flash (website design) and it won't run it... so i was wondering if there's any other way besides switching back to windows06:23
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BlissexDreamglider: which program did emit that message?06:23
[virii] how to install ncurses?06:23
DreamgliderBlissex, the floppy drive does not make one sound06:23
shermanatorhmm, well its a good chance...06:23
DreamgliderBlissex, Nautlius 2.12.106:23
buulianthoreauputic- correction: free06:23
shermanatorjohnsie2k, I've only ever got one device running in ndiswrapper06:23
sorush20why does the EU flag has only 12 start06:23
NoUsedigger3 bum lets you modify what daemons start at boottime06:24
BlissexDreamglider: argh, apparently doing a search it is a common problem with automounting etc.06:24
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BlissexDreamglider: try to open a console and say something like 'mdir a:' and see if it gives back a list of the files on the floppy.06:24
thoreauputicbuulian: AFAIK that's windows only - linux doesn't support anything but flash plugins etc06:24
digger3NoUse: I am looking for something to graphically change my grub boot settings06:24
BlissexDreamglider: if it does your hw at least is fine.06:24
johnsie2khmmm guess i'll just have 2 get a new belkin one06:24
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NoUsedigger3 I'm not aware of such an app06:24
Blissexjohnsie2k: very few WiFi cards are well supported...06:25
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buulianthoreauputic- are there any languages that can do the same thing as flash?06:25
johnsie2kbelkin is very well support on ubuntu06:25
afiefWhy don't all linux system support ONE packaging system? in fact, what is the difference between .deb and .rpm files?06:25
Blissexjohnsie2k: check this page for links: http://tinyurl.com/adhwx06:25
buulianthoreauputic- python? perl? cgi- scripts? DHTML?06:25
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thoreauputicbuulian: please address your questions to the channel06:25
digger3NoUse: okay, but it is installed on my laptop which is also running breezy, strange06:25
thoreauputicbuulian: I'm not a programmer :)06:25
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Blissexjohnsie2k: depends on which Belkin -- they use many different chipsets.06:25
buuliangotcha06:25
NoUseafief go into #redhat and convince them to use dpkg and let us know how it goes06:25
DreamgliderBlissex, mdir: command not found06:25
buulianare there any languages that can do the same thing as flash?06:26
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johnsie2kyeah... thats true06:26
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afiefNoUse: i'd like to know the difference first, before i get into this06:26
fetmananybody who can help me with my sound? it just went dead!06:26
khermans_when will the officially released Breezy ISO be uploaded, at what time?06:26
BlissexDreamglider: 'sudo apt-get install mtools'06:26
infernallIf i am using software raid with the md devices, md0 for boot md2 as root, which drives do I tell grub to use if the actual disks are hde1-3 and hdg1-3?06:26
shermanatorafief, thats the same question I asked myself before I started to use ubuntu06:26
[virii] whats the package management tool ?06:26
liran__i got ubuntu installed for quite a while... how do i go about re-compiling the kernel? i want it to be compatible to my cpu (its an old p3)06:26
apoZ`I need a good translation tool !!!!!06:26
Blissexliran__: no point in recompiling. Just use a 686 precompiled kernel.06:26
NoUseafief I think google knows06:27
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axeusErm.06:27
shermanatorafief, mandriva and the likes are just... too bloated to be used as a first distro for new comers to linux06:27
thoreauputicliran_: why not use a 686 kernel? apt-cache search linux-image and install one?06:27
afiefshermanator: I have used only Fedora and Redhat until now, but it looks like a complete mess if everybody uses their own standards...06:27
Jedrickim trying to install clamav but i recieve this error. " E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable).06:27
axeusI can't remember who asked: But if it's important... The WPA worked out just fine.06:27
shermanatorafief, I know :D06:27
DazeD||lapdoes anyone know if you can make a new / resize your current linux partition? when i try it wont let me do i need to use a live disc?06:27
Blissexshermanator: nahh, they are OK. Mandriva at least. Fedora is a bit too ''latest and greatest'' oriented.06:27
khermans_Jedrick, you probably alreafdy installing something else/.06:27
kemikJedrick:  make sure you're not running apt06:27
shermanatorbut afief, the apt system seems so much more stable than the rpm system06:27
Jedrickno im not06:27
shermanatorBlissex, really/06:27
shermanator?06:27
kemikJedrick:  pgrep apt06:27
Jedrickthen?06:28
deFryskJedric shut down synaptic and use sudo06:28
BlissexDazeD||lap: thats a dangerous operation and works only in special cases and only if you enlarge the filesystem.06:28
fetmananybody who can help me with my sound? it just went dead!06:28
thoreauputicDazeD||lap: that would be the usual way - the disc needs to be unmounted06:28
kemikJedrick:  see what it says ?06:28
liran__Blissex, but an 686 kernel version isn't the best compatible with my own cpu, right? i mean its a version compiled on some other cpu, like a p4-2.2ghz or whatever06:28
afiefshermanator: well, i tried the yum system(fedora's version of apt-get) and it was very easy to use. easier than apt-get06:28
paxmasterproblem burning dvd06:28
DazeD||lapthoreauputic, thank you thats what i figured06:28
khermans_So can someone tell me where the official breezy ISO is?06:28
paxmasteri have burn knoppix dvd to dvd it work fine but I made a backup with tar using split command. The file that i want to burn is 4.3 GB  and the that i am using is 4.706:28
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DazeD||lapBlissex, why is it so dangerous? im just resizing the free space06:28
Blissexliran__: dont worry about that. The 686 kernel is about the best compatible with your PIII.06:28
khermans_is there a specific location where it will be uploiaded to?06:28
Jedrick1067606:28
thoreauputicliran_: the diference would be extremely small06:28
Jedrick 1073906:28
BlissexDazeD||lap: which free space?06:28
Jedrickthats what i got06:28
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afiefshermanator: anyway, what other packaging systems are there???06:28
NoUsekherman_ its about 24 hours in the future06:28
kemikJedrick:  so you are probably running aptitude / synaptic / apt-get06:29
shermanatorafief, admittedly ive never used fedora core... a distro thats bigger than one cd isnt well thought out06:29
DazeD||lapBlissex, free space on me ext3 im going to resize a little bit of it then install windows on the unallocated space06:29
DreamgliderBlissex,06:29
Jedrickno im not running dude06:29
Dreamgliderinit A: non DOS media06:29
DreamgliderCannot initialize 'A:'06:29
shermanatorive had most of my luck come from using ubuntu06:29
BlissexDazeD||lap: thats fairly dangerous...06:29
shermanatorrpm, apt, yum, emerge....06:29
liran__thoreauputic,  Blissex: ok thanks guys. so just apt-get linux-image-whatever_version_i_want?06:29
DazeD||lapBlissex, wy?06:29
DazeD||lapwhy?06:29
shermanatorafief, ^^^^^06:29
afiefshermanator: I only used CD1 and a bit of CD2 for installation. the rest is programs, and there are a lot of them in Fedora believe me06:29
Jedrickim not running synaptic06:29
shermanatorafief, hmm....06:30
zeke1can anybody help me with my ati drivers...i get this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed...i re-installed ubuntu again and same problem???06:30
thoreauputicliran_: yes, just look at the list from apt-cche search linux-image06:30
afiefshermanator: it seems they made it for people who can't download 100MB worth of apps06:30
kemikJedrick:  but pgrep showed alot of PID's with apt inthem06:30
thoreauputicliran_: but avoid 2.6.1106:30
Jedrickdunno06:30
DazeD||lapBlissex, its the same thing u would do with windows if u were planning to dual boot and install linux06:30
kemikJedrick:  try "ps aux | grep apt" and paste it on pastebin06:30
shermanatorafief, but they still had to get the iso's from somewhere :D06:30
liran__thoreauputic, ok thanks. why 2.6.11 if i may ask?06:30
Jedrickhok06:30
BlissexDazeD||lap: and it is dangerous under MS Windows too.06:30
thoreauputicliran_: it had issues - it's in universe and should only be used by the gurus or the foolish ;)06:31
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DazeD||lapBlissex, oh well if you think thats dangerous too then ok...i got it under control thanks :)06:31
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liran__ahh ok thanks thoreauputic06:31
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BlissexDazeD||lap: the main problem is that free space is not in a big chunk at the end of the partition; it is distributed in little bits and pieces. That means that to shrink one has to bunch it up by moving things around, and thats fairly dangerous.06:31
thoreauputicliran_: if you are on breezy it won't be an issue since breezy uses 2.6.1206:31
afiefshermanator: when i still used Dial-up(therw was no broadband in this area) i used to ask some friends to download my CDs i needed, but i couldn't ask them to download 30 programs + dependencies for my system06:32
DazeD||lapBlissex, thats just like defragmenting and it actually makes ur computer run more efficient06:32
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liran__im gonna be a bit stubrn and insist on asking still, how to compile a kernel from source (if there's a quick and easy guide) because i want to practice it (for a good reason :) )06:32
BlissexDazeD||lap: it is also enormously slow. So the best bet is to have  a backup disc, repartition that, copy things to it, and copy things back.06:32
shermanatorafief, true06:32
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infblisscan anybody help me out in playing VCD's. i cant copy dat files.always  get an i/o error message06:33
shermanatorafief, but as the world gets updated each day with new technology, more homes will be permanently conencted to the net06:33
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shermanatorafief, so its all pluses and minuses everywhere06:33
DazeD||lapBlissex, well i dont nor do i have 80 - 250 dollars to spend on a backup hd .... and i have done the partitioning of windows atleast 100 times just never on linux...and i know how a hd stores data i thnk i should be fine06:33
afiefshermanator: I have this now, but i still like the 4 CDs worth of software06:33
bpfok, this is strange. I have 2 identical Dell 19" LCD's and updated to breezy yesterday. Now one of my monitors is slightly blurry :( any ideas?06:33
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Trackilizer!sources06:33
ubotumethinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)06:33
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BlissexDazeD||lap: I'll pray for your disc and data :-)06:33
shermanatorafief, :D I know what you mean06:33
DazeD||lapBlissex, give me an hour and a half and ill tell you if i succeeded06:34
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afiefshermanator: right now i'm trying to find my way into linux, Fedora was more flexible than ubuntu, but ubuntu seems more stable06:34
afiefshermanator: any advice?06:34
shermanatorbpf, refresh rates?06:34
bpfgood idea, I'll check it06:34
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BlissexDazeD||lap: you might well succeed, but the danger is significant... People do succeed most of the time.06:34
bpfthey are the same tho, so that is still odd06:34
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liran__bpf: which dell model is it? i'm interested in getting a laptop but i'm not sure which cause i've no idea about the linux support about it06:35
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shermanatorafief, as i said, ive never tried fedora, but its supposed to be a 'free' version of redhat, I hear.... now I used netbsd, mandrake, mandriva, slackware before going to ubuntu and ive never looked back06:35
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DazeD||lapwell i know there is a chance of losing all my data at any point during a format resize or repartition...but thats a given when partitioning anytime06:35
bpfliran_, it's not a laptop, it's a desktop with dual displays06:35
shermanatorafief, basically because the howto's and tutorials are so easy to follow06:35
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liran__ahh ok06:35
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bpfliran_, if you want a quality laptop to run linux, go with a thinkpad06:35
shermanatorand afief i find its difficult to find info for other distros... its always scattered06:35
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liran__bpf, an ibm?06:36
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NoUseliran_ they're no longer IBM thinkpads :-) Lenovo06:36
bpfliran_, yes ibm/lenovo06:36
liran__bpf: ibm laptops look really bad :) but seriously, i heard goods about dell, just want to make an objective opinion06:36
afiefshermanator: i must agree on that... however it seems that Ubunto has problems when it comes to compiling your own source06:36
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liran__afief, linux kernel source?06:37
shermanatorafief, thats only because there is now build tools installed by default06:37
shermanatorafief, the idea behind apt-get is that you'll never have to compile.06:37
bpfliran_, i think they are the best hardware out there (beside maybe apple) but you pay for it with either one06:37
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shermanatorafief, of course thats silly, but you can always 'apt-get install build-essentials'06:37
Crys_WinHey all.06:37
bpfliran_, ubuntu ran fine on my bottom of the line dell, i just think it's a crappy machine. ymmv06:38
Crys_WinAnyone here wanna pm me their grub entry for ubuntu?06:38
bpfthe wireless even worked06:38
afiefshermanator: did that, but i still get programs saying dependencies ain't there when i installed them myself!06:38
bpfthinkpads are super durable, not sure about the dell track record06:38
shermanatorafief, what programs?06:38
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afiefshermanator: like supertux(bad example, I know) asking for SDL06:38
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shermanatorafief, how did you install them?06:39
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DreamgliderBlissex, Cannot initialize 'A:' - init A: non DOS media06:39
DreamgliderCannot initialize 'A:'06:39
bpfshermanator, should I just randomly expand the range of refresh rates in xorg.conf? Horiz or Vert?06:39
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shermanatorafief, ahh, yes, the SDL packages are there, that needs to be enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list, or through synaptic06:39
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shermanatorbpf, what options do you have atm?06:39
Deanodriverhi06:39
afiefshermanator: did that, didn't help06:39
shermanatorbpf, 60hz should be fine06:39
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Deanodriverhow do i replace the trash and show desktop icons on my toolbar in breezy?06:40
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bpfshermanator, Horiz is 30-65 and Vert is 50-7506:40
Deanodriverwhen i upgraded, i lost them, both are red x's06:40
shermanatorafief, then you mustve 'dpkg -i' a newer supertux package06:40
Deanodriverand many of the icons in the places menu aren't there at all06:40
Sarkieok then, install java 1.506:40
Sarkiere and sdk06:40
Deanodriverwas about a month ago when i upgraded to breezy, been updating often since then06:40
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Kalidarndaww they took off the 1.5days till breezy thingo06:41
chrisx1umm06:41
chrisx1how do i find out why my sound card aint installed?06:41
shermanatorKalidarn, its gonna be released soon06:41
sector10xxtreme: you there?06:41
afiefshermanator: that was the latest version, and i installed the latest SDL-devel. anyway, I got the game through synaptic pkg maneger and it still doesn't work(for some unexplainable reason)06:41
Kalidarnlol really *sarcasm06:41
shermanatorchrisx1, type 'ls /dev/ds*' in a terminal06:41
Kalidarni was hoping they would say "5 minutes till breezy is released"06:41
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shermanatorafief, what version of ubuntu? works fine for me on hoary06:42
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BlissexDreamglider: that sounds like it is not a MSDOS formatted floppy06:42
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chrisx1No Such File/folder06:42
BlissexDreamglider: what kind of floppy is that?06:42
shermanatorafief, altho i am not sure if thats because I had marillat in the repository file06:42
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SarkieJava still runs gij, how do i link to sun jre?06:42
thrashbargchrisx1, what type of sound card06:42
Dreamgliderit's the floppy i used to install Ubuntu from internet06:42
hablandocontigoWhat are those old jumbo ps2-esque ports called?06:42
SarkieSerial06:43
chrisx1onboard 1 its Crystal06:43
afiefshermanator: 5.04 that's horay i guess06:43
juxellahey06:43
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DreamgliderBlissex,  it's the floppy i used to install Ubuntu from internet06:43
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BlissexDreamglider: and what do you want to do with it?06:43
shermanatorafief, then those missing files must be in the now-not-used marillat repos'06:43
juxellai was wondering.... what distribution of ubuntu should i take for a DualCore P4 procesor?06:43
shermanatorafief, they are gearing up for breezy06:43
hablandocontigoSarkie: serial for keyboards?06:43
Crys_WinHey, can somebody send me their menu.lst?06:43
[virii] ncurses = what package?06:43
Crys_WinNot the whole thing, just the os entrys.06:43
Deanodriverjuxella, depends on whether it's got 64bit or not06:43
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shermanatorjuxella, install breezy x86, then install the linux-2.6.12-9 686 SMP kernel06:44
Deanodriveri think they do (in which case you'd use AMD64)06:44
DreamgliderBlissex, with the disk, nothing much i just want my floppy drives to work!06:44
Sarkiehablandocontigo, the old big ones from keyboards, serial06:44
afiefshermanator: breezy is due to be released tomorrow, right?06:44
Deanodriverbut if they don't have EMT64 or whatever it is, i386 is the go06:44
shermanatorafief, as far as I know :D06:44
chrisx1shermanator, its a onboard crystal 106:44
BlissexDreamglider: have you got a simple empty MSDOS formatted floppy to try?06:44
shermanatorafief, Im wandering about that myself06:44
Deanodriverif all you know is that it isn't a Mac, use i386 :)06:44
LenhadorHi! I'm trying to install an "user script" on Greasemonkey/Firefox, on Hoary, but my Firefox break with "segmentation fault"... what's happen?06:45
shermanatorchrisx1, ...odd? I do have to admit, *kubuntu* has decided not to play with my soundcard, which is a vibra 128 pci sound blaster, just a week ago06:45
afiefshermanator: too bad, I got my horay CDs only two days ago:) it's sad that no one around here uses linux, they all have pirated windows06:45
chrisx1umm06:45
shermanatorbut chrisx1 thats probably because its cheap06:45
chrisx1theres no way to install it?06:45
[virii] in synaptic where would ncurses be located?06:45
shermanatorafief, I know what you mean :P06:45
afiefshermanator but when i look at the pain it takes to get into this world it's quite obvious why06:45
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shermanatorafief, its getting much much better06:46
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shermanatorafief, they just need more driver support from the hardware manufacturers06:46
Crys_WinOnce more, I'd like the MENU.LST entries for the Ubuntu. That's all I need.06:46
DreamgliderBlissex, yes, i'll pastebin the output06:46
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shermanatorafief, truth be told, ubuntu is an *excellent* cheap way to make a computer be an office machine06:46
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thoreauputicCrys_Win: but menu.lst depends on your configuration06:46
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BlissexDreamglider: if you got a test floppy try this: 'sudo fdformat /dev/fd0; sudo mformat a:'06:47
johnsie2kHi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?06:47
Crys_WinI know how to edit it. I just need the basic config for it.06:47
Deanodriveryeah, openoffice is a very nice app06:47
johnsie2kHi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?06:47
hablandocontigoSarkie: I don't think just quite: round jumbo ports; I get parallelogram serial ports when I search06:47
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Deanodrivera bit bloated for slower systems, but a nice app nonetheless06:47
juxellawill it be hard to go from the current Breezy RC to the final? Do i have to wait until the final breezy is released?06:47
Sarkiehablandocontigo, you want me to link you? for an example06:47
afiefshermanator: office machine yes, internet machine, yes. gaming console, no. development platform: no idea06:47
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Sarkiehablandocontigo, http://www.success-hk.com/sc_html/Computer/20_6F5M%20PS2%20to%20Serial%20for%20Keyboard%20(6in).htm06:47
DreamgliderBlissex, http://pastebin.com/39134106:47
Crys_Winthoreauputic: I just don't know how to set it up from scratch.06:47
johnsie2kHi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?06:47
shermanatorafief, gaming console... well, i successfully installed cedega 4.4.1 and half life 2 on my p4... works *great*06:48
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Sarkiefor example, hablandocontigo I used to own one, hence i know ;)06:48
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shermanatorafief, better than that *other* OS06:48
Crys_Winthoreauputic: Also, I can't check the original from windows.06:48
Deanodriverif all you do is browse the internet, view/send emails, type up the odd document and play solitaire, Ubuntu is ideal06:48
ratathere is a date for breezy realease ?06:48
hablandocontigoSarkie: ah, precisely; they call this serial too: http://cgi.ebay.ca/PS-2-to-Serial-Converter-for-PS-2-Mouse-NEW_W0QQitemZ5817511852QQcategoryZ45340QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem06:48
basscrhow do i log into ubuntu without using the GDM ?06:48
johnsie2kHi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?06:48
BlissexDreamglider: the second time looks like it read precisely the contents of a floppy.06:48
Deanodriverrata, yep, 13th of October :)06:48
rataDeanodriver, cool :)06:48
Deanodriverie: today here06:49
thoreauputicCrys_Win: hang on - finding a URL for you06:49
Sarkiehablandocontigo, see point proven ;)06:49
afiefshermanator: true, but i have some gamer friends, although we all have consoles some PC games are simply a must, and most don't come out for linux06:49
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Blissexbasscr: depends on what else you want to use.06:49
LenhadorHi! I'm trying to install an "user script" on Greasemonkey/Firefox, on Hoary, but my Firefox break with "segmentation fault"... what's happen?06:49
Crys_Winthoreaputic Thanks so much.06:49
spoilerheadhallo leute06:49
shermanatorafief, cedega 'emulates' parts of windows so you can run windows apps in linux06:49
spoilerheadups, sorry, wrong channel :)06:49
shermanatorafief, its come a long way06:49
Deanodrivershermanator, that's wine as well06:50
Deanodrivercedega is meant to emulate directx, i think, for games06:50
shermanatorDeanodriver, yer cedega is a commercial fork in the wine project06:50
hablandocontigoSarkie: do you know if they come split for mouse + board. I have a serial for keyboard adapter but that's only for my keyboard, I have no way to attach mouse06:50
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Deanodriverok06:50
shermanatorDeanodriver, wine can do that to06:50
afiefshermanator I would gladly believe that, but seeing what linux is like it's still a long way to go. i had hoped people would change when Vista comes...06:50
Deanodrivera long way to go until what?06:50
hablandocontigoSarkie: no obviously easy way*06:50
Sarkiehablandocontigo, so you want a mouse serial to ps2?06:51
basscrBlissex: i want to login direct into ubuntu, the problem is that my monitor doesn't support 800x600 resolution, so i only see lines!06:51
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shermanatorafief, linux needs more driver support to be fully acceptible. Yes its true its difficult, but now I actually feel *dirty* running windows on any of my machines06:51
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Sarkiehablandocontigo, seem belkin makes one http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=225972&sku=B20-742006:51
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phreakshowhey06:51
Deanodriveras a desktop operating system, I don't think Linux will ever usurp Windows as #106:51
shermanatorbasscr, upgrade your hardware06:52
phreakshowam i a noob?06:52
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thoreauputicCrys_Win:  http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/334005106:52
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Crys_Winphreakshow: Yes, yes you are.06:52
Deanodriverbut because of the number of platforms that Linux can run on, Linux-based devices (like TiVo's) will become more and more common06:52
Blissexbasscr: oh man, define login direct06:52
shermanatorDeanodriver, windows is a desktop os trying to be a server os too. Linux is a server os that might just have enough guts to make it be a desktop os.06:52
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shermanatorDeanodriver, its already happening06:52
Deanodrivershermanator, i know that06:52
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shermanatorDeanodriver, what are we doing :D06:52
Blissexbasscr: you can always get the text console by doping CTRL-ALT-F106:53
Deanodriveri don't know :p06:53
thoreauputicCrys_Win: Carla Schroeder writes good understandable stuff :)06:53
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shermanatoranyway time for sleep guys06:53
Deanodriveryeah, same, it's nearly 3am06:53
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DreamgliderBlissex, http://pastebin.com/39134906:53
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hablandocontigoSarkie: ah, thanks; seems one of my boxes does have a card in a PCI slot with print/mouse port; my low end AT computers : |06:53
Crys_Winthoreauputic: The problem is that I don't know where all that stuff is, nor what commands to pass to the kernel.06:53
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Sarkiehablandocontigo, its ok, i like talking about my old equipment brings back memories ;)06:54
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thoreauputicCrys_Win: it 's in her article - read it06:54
basscrBlissex is there someway to skip the login screen, a go directly to ubuntu ?06:54
Crys_WinYes sir/maam.06:54
thoreauputicCrys_Win: she explains how to use grub06:54
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Crys_Winthoreauputic: Thank you. I just hope I can follow these instructions from windoze.06:54
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Sarkiehow do I find where a package is installed ?06:55
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DShepherdthoreauputic: Can you drop that link about grub again06:55
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Crys_Winhttp://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/334005106:55
thoreauputicCrys_Win: :) well read about it and see: also you might find some grub howtos on the web - I don't think we can walk you through it on IRC :)06:55
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afiefshermanator driver support will come along when some of the other things are solved: I consider myself an advanced computer user. I wrote lots of programs and scripts(windows) but i still have problems with linux... shouldn't be this way06:55
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thoreauputicDShepherd:  http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/334005106:56
Nomikoswhen i install the breezy preview, will the final version require reinstall or just an apt-get upgrade?06:56
DShepherdthoreauputic: thanks man06:56
msiebuhrSarkie: Look in synaptic...06:56
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Crys_Winthoreauputic: I have everything set up. Just need the entry for linux without being able to get to the files.06:56
picassohm, where could i find breezy changelog/new features?06:56
thoreauputicalso see ubotu below06:56
thoreauputic!grub06:56
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting06:56
Nomikospicasso: http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview06:57
johnsie2kMy wi-fi adapter appears in my "device manager" list but not in my "Network Settings" list.06:57
johnsie2kIs there anything I can do to fix th06:57
picassoty06:57
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Sarkiemsiebuhr, didnt know that woops06:57
thoreauputicCrys_Win: if you have linux installed, you can run grub-install from a live CD I believe (I don't run windows though)06:57
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basscrBlissex is there someway to skip the login screen, a go directly to ubuntu ?06:58
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msiebuhrSarkie: Fair enough - I've had to learn it as well...06:58
Sarkieok now how do i change JAVA running GIJ and get it to run java, symlink?06:58
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Crys_Winthoreauputic: It is for the wingrub, so No. I can't do that. But one of those later links you dropped will do nicely.06:58
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thoreauputicbasscr: I think there's an "auto login" optionm for a user in the gdm setup somewhere06:59
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basscrok, i'll see06:59
Sarkiewould alias help me?06:59
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thoreauputic!alias06:59
ubotuCreate your own shorter timesaving console commands. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_05.html06:59
telonirhow can i use a non-default xorg.conf file (my gnome/kde freezes sometimes with the nvidia driver. so i want it to use "nv" and create another user for gaming wich will not use gnome/kde but launch the game directly on X.. but i need the other user to use a different xorg.conf file with "nvidia" in it)06:59
msiebuhrSarkie: Nope, symlink the thing ("ln -s original-file newfile")07:00
Sarkiethoreauputic, but should i be using "Symlink" or something like that,07:00
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thoreauputicOK 3 am here: time to get some sleep - have fun all07:00
Howdy125 basscr .. system .. login screen setup07:00
krestenI can't configure wine properly it keeps exiting with a errorcode 1. Can anyone help?07:00
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thoreauputicSarkie: probably better and more practical yes07:00
hablandocontigoSarkie: also, I can plug in all those IDE-esque cables into cards, and mother board in any configuration as long as the all end up directly/indirectly in the motherboard?07:00
Blissexbasscr: the problem here is that the login screen is Ubuntu...07:00
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Crys_WinNite, thoreauputic.07:00
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basscryeap07:01
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ratatelonir, you have 2 ways07:01
thoreauputicgoodnight all07:01
Sarkienn07:01
Blissexbasscr: you can always though boot into single user mode or into runlevel 207:01
krestenGoodnight07:01
hablandocontigogoodafternoon07:01
Sarkiemsiebuhr, can i pm you?07:01
Blissexbasscr: but thats as good as switching to the console terminal with CTRL-ALT-F107:01
basscrBlissex is there someway to log ubuntu when i'n in recovery mode ?07:01
BicchiAt what time should I expect to see the release posted for Breezy. How many hours from now?07:01
msiebuhrpm? (I'm new to IRC)07:02
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hablandocontigoOn an AT system can I plug in all those IDE-esque cables into other cards and mother board in any configuration as long as the all end up directly/indirectly in the motherboard?07:02
telonirrata: ?07:02
Blissexbasscr: then you can put 'none' in '/etc/X11/default-display-manager' to stop it going into the graphic login07:02
Blissexbasscr: just login as yourself and then 'sudo'.07:02
DreamgliderBlissex, i got the floppys formated, but i still cant mount/access the floppy im nautilus07:02
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Sarkie!symlink07:02
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Sarkie07:02
Juhazmsiebuhr, private message07:02
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BlissexDreamglider: well, that can be because a little bug. Can you access them with 'mdir'?07:03
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bartphi07:03
ratatelonir, or use 2 differents xorg.conf files, or you can add all devices to your xorg.conf (with differet identifiers, of course) and then add an other server layout (with other identifier too) and make it use the other screen, which use the other "device" (the same device with different drivers). And then, when you start X, you shoud select which layout with the -layout07:03
Sarkieok well i know the new path for java, it should be /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin07:03
ratatelonir, i prefer the second one07:03
DreamgliderBlissex, Yes.07:03
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AbstracTusIf I sucessfully follow the BreezyUpgradeNotes (topic), will my machine then be running the final version of Breezy or just the RC?07:04
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axeusLOL07:04
axeus"There are 451 updates available."07:04
ratatelonir, it is quite simple, it is more simple that it sounds07:04
telonirk07:04
BlissexDreamglider: if you click on the 'Places:Computer' menu you should see all your mountable stuff.07:05
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BlissexDreamglider: if you do, you can right click on the icon for the floppy device and select 'Mount', that should work. Hopefully.07:05
BlissexDreamglider: not automatic, but better than command line.07:05
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Chapo #ubuntu-fr07:05
krestenMy wine installation is screwed. How do I remove it and the conf files?07:06
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LenhadorCan you help-me? What my firefox breaks with Greasemonkey?07:06
DreamgliderBlissex, Unable to mount the selected volume. Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume07:06
BlissexDreamglider: Argh.07:06
DreamgliderBlissex, on both boxes :/07:06
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sachingargI wish to know how packages are selected for distribution in ubuntu...07:07
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TiMiDowww.ubuntu.com sachingarg07:08
BlissexDreamglider: here, with an odd config, 'Mount' and 'Umount' on the icon ''just work''.07:08
BlissexDreamglider: but I have disabled 'udev' and 'hotplug' and all that dubious crap.07:08
krestenDoes anyone know how to remove wine and its configuration files?07:08
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sachingargTiMiDo: how can I  suggest additional packages for consideration07:08
TiMiDokresten: man dpkg or apt-get07:08
TiMiDosachingarg: on the ubuntu-devel07:08
TiMiDolist07:08
Blissexsachingarg: the problem is more that Ubuntu want to _remove_ not add packages. The objective is to have a small distro.07:09
sachingargok...07:09
AbstracTusQ: If I sucessfully follow the BreezyUpgradeNotes (topic), will my machine then be running the final version of Breezy or just the RC?07:09
krestenTiMiDo: does that also remove the wine configuration?07:09
TiMiDojust the RC AbstracTus wait until tomorrow07:09
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johnsie2kMy wi-fi adapter appears in my "device manager" list but not in my "Network Settings" list. Is there anything I can do to fix this?07:09
chrisx1yay07:09
TiMiDoyes kresten  read the man that i give you07:09
AbstracTusTiMiDo: Ok, thanx07:09
TiMiDoAbstracTus: np07:09
sachingargAre only open source packages considered for inclusion?07:09
chrisx1i got sound working07:10
TiMiDoyes sachingarg07:10
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TiMiDocool chrisx107:10
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SarkieRight, I still have GIJ running instead of running /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java, how do i fix this, please!!!07:10
sachingargwhat if there is an interesting enough, but closed sourced package?07:10
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TiMiDosachingarg:  such as?07:10
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TiMiDoSarkie: kill the gij pid07:10
TiMiDoand then run it07:10
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Sarkiehow?07:10
Sarkieprocess id?07:10
TiMiDoSarkie: ps x07:10
DreamgliderBlissex, what is  'udev' and 'hotplug' and is it easy to disable ?07:11
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TiMiDoDreamglider: hotplug /etc/init.d/hotplug stop; it should be disable07:11
tuxuntuHello! I'm using breezy (upgraded from hoary today). Now my umlauts are not working anymore. I found a bug at bugzilla, but that didnt help either. Anyone has an idea?07:11
TiMiDoor read man update-rc.d07:11
Sarkienot as in "running" as in if i dod Java from the cl it loads GIJ instead of Java 1.507:11
TiMiDoDreamglider: do this man man update-rc.d07:11
TiMiDobla just one man07:11
sachingargTimiDo: nothing particular in my mind... just want to know what all is considered07:12
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TiMiDosachingarg: read the www.ubuntu.com or the wiki07:12
TiMiDoor go to #ubuntu-motu07:12
sachingargI saw "restricted copyright" section in synaptic...07:12
sachingargi guess those packages are close-sourced...07:12
TiMiDoyeah07:12
JedrickHow to start clamav antivirus?07:13
sachingargwhat is ubuntu-motu about?07:13
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BlissexDreamglider: with 'hal' they are the stuff that do all the autoconfiguration for peripherals. If you disable them you have to configure all device manually.07:13
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spstarr_workwhats the next unbuntu unstable tree name ?07:13
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TiMiDoJedrick: run a terminal and do clamav or /etc/init.d/clamav as sudo07:13
SarkieTiMiDo, how can I remove GIJ running instead of Java its not an "alias" so dont no whats up?07:13
spstarr_workis it created yet so i can switch my apt.source list stuff?07:13
TiMiDoSarkie: did you do ps x did it came up with the pid?07:13
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spstarr_worksince there's no 'sid' in Ubuntu07:13
DreamgliderBlissex, i dont want that :/07:13
spstarr_workor 'testing/unstable'07:13
TiMiDospstarr_work: well sid is breezy, until it's released07:13
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SarkieI cant see it07:13
JedrickTidus: it's not working dude07:13
BlissexDreamglider: so wait for a fixed package...07:13
BlissexDreamglider: and/or mount things manually.07:14
spstarr_workso there's no other new tree started yet?07:14
TiMiDowell breezy will be stable07:14
BlissexDreamglider: you can always do a 'sudo mount' from the command line.07:14
TiMiDospstarr_work: not really07:14
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Sarkieit'll be in synaptic, removing it may help??07:14
axeusBreezy Preview is stable. :S07:14
TiMiDoaxeus: still not stable07:14
TiMiDolet me take a look at it07:14
spstarr_workTiMiDo: it would be nice to have a floating tree07:14
eyequeueaxeus:  um, no, it's still dynamic07:15
spstarr_workso i dont need to change my apt list each time07:15
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axeusYeah, it's not classified as a stable build.07:15
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axeusBut it's literally "stable" on me.07:15
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xml-bloghi all, anyone know where on my system I can look for crash info? I try starting the new Art Manager and it says starting and dies.07:15
TiMiDowell, it's getting there07:15
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TiMiDospstarr_work: yeah i know,07:15
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telonirrata : startx -layout layout2 ?!07:15
tuxuntuHello! I'm using breezy (upgraded from hoary today). Now my umlauts are not working anymore. I found a bug at bugzilla, but that didnt help either. Anyone has an idea?07:15
TiMiDoxml-blog: any errors?07:15
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eyequeuespstarr_work:  it's only every six months, but you can run it more if its too much work07:15
SarkieTiMiDo, fixed it ;)07:15
Sarkiehaha07:15
spstarr_workI suppose looking for the project name in ftp will tell me enough :)07:15
xml-blogno just says starting you see it in the panel and it disappears07:15
Sarkiejust removed the GIJ package from snyaptic07:15
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TiMiDoxml-blog: interesting,07:16
spstarr_worksince once breezy is out, the next one begins development07:16
TiMiDocan you run it form a terminal07:16
xml-blogTiMiDo, also happens when I try to start Splash Screen settings from Preferences07:16
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spstarr_workunless Ubuntu _waits_ 6 months07:16
eyequeueaxeus:  stable means unchanging, even it runs solidly its still not stable until release :)07:16
spstarr_workthen pulls what sid is07:16
ompaulspstarr_work,  No Breezy is not out yet -- be patient!07:16
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spstarr_workompaul, im not talking if its out or not, i said 'when' its out07:17
johnsie2kMy wi-fi adapter appears in my "device manager" list but not in my "Network Settings" list.07:17
johnsie2kIs there anything I can do to fix th07:17
ompaulspstarr_work, ahh I read wince07:17
TPCer.. a tab completion mistake made me remove /etc/cron.daily/standard, how do I get it back?07:17
spstarr_work:)07:17
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ompaulspstarr_work, ahh I read since even07:17
spstarr_worki just wanna know when the next development begins once breezy is officially out07:17
eyequeuespstarr_work:  many apps in breezy were ahead of the debian version, so no need to worry about waiting for sid i think :)07:17
DreamgliderBlissex, yea mounting the floppy in terminal is no problem07:17
axeusOops. I mean.. it's not classified as a "beta" ?07:17
spstarr_workeyequeue, true07:17
xml-blogTiMiDo, duh I should have thought of that. running in terminal says 'require' No such file to load -- gnome_art (LoadError)07:17
ompaulspstarr_work, next thing will be ehh is it better than etch - you will see that on the 14th07:18
basti__Could anyone be kind enough to help me set up a samba share between my ubuntu and a Windows XP virtual machine?07:18
johnsie2kdang07:18
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TiMiDo!info require07:18
TiMiDobla07:18
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Dreamglidernow how can i make a rescue disk it somthing were to happend to my system +?07:18
BlissexDreamglider: however I am astonished that it does not work with right-click on icon and select 'mount'.07:18
TiMiDocheck if there's any bugs on it xml-blog07:18
spstarr_workis there an official 'name' for the next tree? :)07:18
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ompaulspstarr_work, yes, dapper drake07:18
johnsie2klooks like I'll have to uninstall Ubuntu and go back to Windows :-(07:18
BlissexDreamglider: what you want is a resscue CD, and the GNOPPIX/Live Ubuntu CD is perfect for that.07:18
xml-blogTiMiDo, can you provide a pointer no clue where to go07:18
spstarr_workok so i should look for 'dapper' in project pool once its begun07:19
TiMiDoxml-blog: give me a second07:19
xml-blogTiMiDo, thanks07:19
ompauljohnsie2k, why do you say that? (Ive just come back from dinner)07:19
DreamgliderBlissex, not a floppy made on THIS pc wich has configurations for this pc !07:19
BlissexDreamglider: rescue CDs are a lot more useful than rescue floppies, and they come in all sort of sizes and flavours.07:19
TiMiDoxml-blog: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/07:19
BlissexDreamglider: ahhhh, bad news there...07:19
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ChapoIs anobody speak french, please ?07:19
BlissexDreamglider: if you want to have a backup of your current configuration, not good.07:20
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johnsie2kcos I can see my wi-fi card in my device manager list but not in my netwrok settings list07:20
TiMiDoChapo: join #ubuntu-fr07:20
spstarr_workso by ~ the 14th of October, dapper begins development ?07:20
TiMiDo!fr07:20
ubotuI heard fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:20
DreamgliderBlissex, ok well i have Knoppis and slax07:20
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DreamgliderBlissex, KnoppiX07:20
Dreamglideron a DVD07:20
BlissexChapo: try #Linux-Quebec for example, if the main #Ubuntu-FR channel is sluggish.07:20
Chapothx Ubotu !07:20
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BlissexDreamglider: thats about the same as Knoppix.07:20
N6REJmorning everyone.07:20
spstarr_worki can wait 3 days, sure for drapper to begin07:20
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TiMiDolol thanks me Chapo07:20
TiMiDomorning N6REJ07:20
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_iGadget_evening07:20
ompaul!tell Chapo about ubotu07:20
BlissexDreamglider: as to saving your config, it is a mess. You can try backing up all modified files under '/etc',07:21
krestenDoes anybody know if it is possible to get j2re via the repositories?07:21
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TiMiDo!tell kresten about javadeb07:21
basti__!swat07:21
ubotuswat is probably Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html07:21
tedioups07:21
TiMiDoread kresten what ubotu post ya07:21
guti_ubuntu espaol?07:21
spstarr_work!es07:21
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:21
_iGadget_guys... if I want to clone my /dev/hdc to /dev/hdd... can I just simply say 'dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd'?07:21
DreamgliderBlissex, there is one thing tho, my cd/dvd drive on my laptop is dead so i cannot use a live cd/dvd on it07:21
xiaogilmy hoary system used to be in chinese, now it's completely reinstalled with breezy preview cd, i have put my .evolution drawer in ~/, and i always get the following error msg now : Error while Storing folder 'Inbox'.07:21
xiaogilSummary and folder mismatch, even after a sync. What can i do to solve this problem ?07:21
_iGadget_or will I be seriously messing my /dev/hdd up :)07:21
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N6REJI've been studying about configuring my server, and I found a document that describes a setup for hoarty, but it wants me to install "qoutas" and I'm wondering if thats necessary/desirable07:21
BlissexDreamglider: thats very bad news. However there are a few rescue floppies still around.07:22
tedifr???????????????????????????07:22
TiMiDoxiaogil: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales07:22
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ompaul_iGadget_, if they are the same size and make you could do that07:22
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ompaul!fr07:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:22
xiaogilTiMiDo: i did it already07:22
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BlissexDreamglider: have look on the web for RIP and TomsRTBT. They are probably the best rescue floppies.07:22
TiMiDoxiaogil: any errors?07:22
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kresten???07:22
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xiaogilTiMiDo: without any result conerning evolution07:22
xml-blogTiMiDo, thank you for the link07:22
_iGadget_ompaul: well... they're not... /dev/hdd is twice as big actually07:22
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TiMiDoxml-blog: np07:22
DreamgliderBlissex, is there no way to make a rescue floppy, wich one can boot from for ubuntu07:22
TiMiDoxiaogil: do sudo apt-get install locales07:22
xiaogilTiMiDo: already installed07:23
N6REJTiMiDo: they updated the locales package yesterday evening07:23
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TiMiDoyes they did,07:23
tediil y a pas de francais     OUPS07:23
BlissexDreamglider: not really. The recent kernels dont fit on a floppy.07:23
TiMiDotedi: #ubuntu-fr07:23
_iGadget_ompaul: I basically need to switch the two drives... but I need my data :)07:23
N6REJ:)07:23
HappyFoolDreamglider: maybe check out tomsrtbt (if it's still going)07:23
ompaul_iGadget_, ahh here is what I would do in that case :)07:23
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spstarr_worktedi: Parlez Francais avec #ubuntu-fr07:23
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eyequeue_iGadget_:  man cp, cp -a may be all you need07:24
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N6REJTiMiDo: whats your take on the necessity or lack there of of qoutas on a server?07:24
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tuxuntuHello! I'm using breezy (upgraded from hoary today). Now my umlauts are not working anymore. I found a bug at bugzilla, but that didnt help either. Anyone has an idea?07:24
Dreamglidercant i just get grub on a floppy, and boot from it if somthing happens ?07:24
TiMiDo?? N6REJ07:24
xiaogilspstarr_work: don't blame my mother tongue07:24
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PalleLaptuxuntu, In what kind of applications?07:24
TiMiDotuxuntu: wait until they fixed the nug07:24
_iGadget_eyequeue: I'll look into that... but let's wait what ompaul has to say first ;)07:24
TiMiDo*bug07:24
teditrop dur pour moi je quitte07:24
cycomso is VLC fixed yet? :)07:25
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spstarr_workxiaogil, no, i blame the Ontario public school ;) but thats offtopic and for some other #channel07:25
eyequeue_iGadget_:  man rsync too, i like rsync /foo/ bar/, even locally and yes the trailing slashes are important07:25
axeusum.07:25
TiMiDospstarr_work: the next release is called Dapper 6.0407:25
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axeusYep.07:25
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N6REJTiMiDo: I'm following a doc I found regarding getting hoary into a good quality server, but I'm using breezy, and it recommends installing quotas but gives no reason why... I'm wondering why/if I want them turned on.07:25
spstarr_workTiMiDo, ok good stuff07:25
WinZAnybody knows how to check HDD under Ubuntu? (bad clusters etc..)07:25
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N6REJspstarr_work: due out April 2006 :D07:25
HappyFoolWinZ: i think 'badblocks' does that07:25
ompaul_iGadget_, move hdd to hdc and visa versa, reinstall from scratch, copy all the updates from the second drive make a nice large /home directory on the _new_ hdc and copy any things you need - then I would go poking around a bit, and make the old drive a place where you back up your "spare files" configs and /var/cache/apt/archives07:26
TiMiDoWinZ:  man fdisk07:26
spstarr_workTedi, se joignent svp # ubuntu-franc pour l'aide de langue franaise sur Ubuntu.07:26
ompaul_iGadget_, so yes cp but not the way you expected :)07:26
WinZthanks!07:26
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spstarr_workgrr stupid google07:26
HieronymusHello07:26
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HieronymusI think I messed up my /home07:26
TiMiDowhy?07:26
HieronymusIt's on a lvm, and when I ls it, it appears empty07:27
_iGadget_eyequeue / ompaul: I see... but then I'd have to create partions first on /dev/hdd... hmmm... man mkfs :D07:27
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Hieronymusjeroen@jeroen:~$ df -h /home/jeroen/oudehome/07:27
HieronymusFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on07:27
Hieronymus/dev/mapper/ubuntu-home 91G   33M   86G   1% /home/jeroen/oudehome07:27
TiMiDoHieronymus: did you do something to it?07:27
HieronymusTiMiDo: not really07:27
TiMiDowell ypu07:27
HieronymusTiMiDo: not something that would obviously delete it..07:27
TiMiDobla07:28
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TiMiDoso who messed it up?07:28
N6REJHieronymus:  try ls -la07:28
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Hieronymusdrwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4096 2005-10-12 18:06 .07:28
Hieronymusdrwxr-xr-x  17 jeroen root 4096 2005-10-12 19:10 ..07:28
HieronymusN6REJ: ^07:28
N6REJhehheh ooops07:28
eyequeue_iGadget_:  yes, cp and rsync require a mounted filesystem first, whereas dd operates on unmounted07:29
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HappyFoolHieronymus: it looks ok to me, though why does your home dir belong to the 'root' group ?07:29
N6REJTiMiDo: looks like alot is missing lol07:29
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_iGadget_eyequeue: exactly... that's why I figured dd would be my best bet - just dd everything, swap disks... done.07:29
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HieronymusHappyFool: uhm, I don't know. I added a /home/jeroen on the root filesystem07:30
HieronymusHappyFool: because my /home is messed up07:30
eyequeue_iGadget_:  that sort of thing works best if the devices are physically identical though07:30
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johnsie2kI have a07:30
johnsie2k Marvell W8300 wi-fi card. Doesn anyone know how to set it up?07:30
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HappyFoolHieronymus: oh, sorry, .. belongs to jeroen07:30
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N6REJHappyFool: shouldn't he at least have a .bashrc file?07:30
spstarr_workBugzilla Bug #8879 - Any word on the solution to two PCI cards sharing same PCI ID information my friend cannot install Ubuntu on his box because of the SCSI controller issue (see bug)07:30
_iGadget_eyequeue: I see.. so I could seriously mess up /dev/hdd if I tried? :s07:30
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HappyFoolN6REJ: i think that is '/home', not '/home/jeroen'07:31
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gfxstylerhi07:31
HappyFoolHieronymus: what does 'ls -ld /' say ?07:31
TiMiDooh man i love reading the documentation of breeze07:31
Hieronymusehm, this is /home/jeroen/oudehome, on which I mounted my home partition07:31
N6REJHappyFool: good point.07:31
TiMiDohi gfxstyler07:31
Hieronymus/home/jeroen I created on the / FS07:31
eyequeue_iGadget_:  guessing, you could end up with a device that can only see half of itself?  if you do try it, let me know heh07:31
HappyFoolHieronymus: ah, ok07:31
N6REJTiMiDo: what doc? LOL07:31
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TiMiDohttp://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/07:31
wrabbit01Can somebody help please.  I'm trying to install a windows wifi card driver and it is asking my to run an s root07:31
wrabbit01no idea what that is07:31
wrabbit01:|07:31
HieronymusHappyFool: 31 < HappyFool> Hieronymus: what does 'ls -ld /' say ?07:32
TiMiDowrabbit01: sudo07:32
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HieronymusHappyFool: drwxr-xr-x  21 root root 4096 2005-09-28 16:57 /07:32
HappyFoolHieronymus: maybe you can paste the output of 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin?07:32
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gfxstyleri have a very serious problem in breezy: after i updated breezy today i cannot start VLC anymore because it loads the mac osx skin by default, which does not work for me :/ any way to fix this?07:32
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ivanoxhmm, this is weird =( after having runned vmWare once with sudo (to be able to change a setting) I cannot run it as normal user again..07:32
wrabbit01TiMiDo, so I don't have to restart or anything.  Just put sudo in front of the command?07:32
HappyFoolHieronymus: are you quite familiar with lvm / mounting etc ?07:33
TiMiDoyes wrabbit0107:33
N6REJTiMiDo: PFFFFT... I've got more documentation on how to use my Toilet *sigh* only thing I really don't like about ubuntu07:33
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wrabbit01thanks TiMiDo07:33
TiMiDonp wrabbit0107:33
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_iGadget_eyequeue: gheh :) Well I don't know how 'lowlevel' dd copies everything... I kind of wanted to just copy the existing partitions to the new drive using partion magic / pqdi, but it refuses to copy ext3 / xfs partitions...07:33
HappyFoolHieronymus: the output of 'lvscan' might be good too07:33
warpforgeI need help with ps2pdf. The output I get has colored rectangles or nothing instead of the actual text.07:33
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CrubeCan I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy and get everything working just the way things would when installing Breezy from a CD07:33
HieronymusHappyFool: auth.log: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/301507:33
TiMiDo!backup07:34
ubotuTiMiDo: I haven't a clue07:34
gfxstylerCrube: yes07:34
HieronymusHappyFool: familiar with mounting, not with lvm07:34
frank23Crube: yes07:34
eyequeueCrube:  starting with a working hoary?  yes07:34
Nomikosanyone running MacOnLinux on Ubuntu?07:34
TiMiDoubotu: backup <reply> backup it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html read it and it tell you how to backup07:34
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, TiMiDo07:34
HieronymusHappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3016 mount07:34
N6REJI THINK I know this one but I'm gonna watch and see07:34
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TiMiDoubotu, backup <reply> backup it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html read it and it tell you how to backup07:34
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eyequeueubotu:  telll Crube about upgrade2breezy07:34
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eyequeueubotu:  tell Crube about upgrade2breezy07:34
TiMiDoubotu, backup backup it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html read it and it tell you how to backup07:35
ubotuTiMiDo: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about07:35
TiMiDobla07:35
HieronymusHappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3017 sudo fdisk -l07:35
N6REJlol@timido07:35
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HieronymusHappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3018 sudo lvscan07:35
TiMiDothat's why i don't like blootbots07:35
Crubeeyequeue I already upgraded, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything by doing that instead of installing breezy itself :)07:35
N6REJ!qouta07:35
ubotuN6REJ: What?07:35
warpforgeblootbots?07:35
N6REJhmmm07:35
N6REJ!qoutas07:35
ubotuN6REJ: No idea07:35
TiMiDoblootbot07:35
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TiMiDo!blootbot07:36
ubotuTiMiDo: Wish i knew07:36
TiMiDo!info blootbot07:36
ubotublootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-5.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 936 kB07:36
N6REJhehehhe07:36
_iGadget_hmmm... or I could wait for breezy to come out and start all over... But I'm just too impatient :)07:36
eyequeueCrube:  no, you now have "breezy itself" (minus any last-minute chages before release)07:36
N6REJ!info qouta07:36
HappyFoolN6REJ: it's 'quota' and ubotu doesn't know about it as a factoid07:36
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Crubeeyequeue that is good :)07:36
HappyFoolplease play with the bot in pm07:36
N6REJHappyFool: sorry07:36
N6REJHappyFool: any reason I would/would'nt want to run qoutas on my server?07:37
HappyFoolHieronymus: well, i'm not very familiar with lvm but this doesn't look to good07:37
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CrubeSomehow Breezy feels alot faster than Hoary. I'm running it on an old computer and it works alot faster for some reason :S07:37
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_iGadget_so... upgrading to to breezy is simply replacing all 'hoary' entries in sources.list with 'breezy', apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade?07:37
warpforgeum.... sure07:37
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eyequeueright07:37
gfxstylerquestion: totem-xine or gxine ?07:37
HappyFoolN6REJ: if you mean disk-space quotas, it might be a good idea if you have several users07:37
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HieronymusHappyFool: nope.. I think I messed up while playing with pbuilder and other packagebuilding stuff.. (see my auth.log007:38
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N6REJHappyFool: 6 plus the 2 websites07:38
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jeff303I have a little problem... after booting up today I got some message about some processes dying, and asking me if I wanted to restart them07:40
jeff303I just restarted the computer, now the "task bar" or whatever it's called at the bottom is blank07:40
Hieronymusjeff303: the gnome-panel?07:40
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jeff303Hieronymus: that could be it07:40
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N6REJ?07:41
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TiMiDo??07:41
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Hieronymusjeff303: what happens if you press alt+F2, type in gnome-panel and hit enter?07:41
pigetahi07:41
TiMiDopigeta: hello07:41
N6REJStill don't know if I should use qoutas or not.07:41
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pigetaim italian07:41
jeff303Hieronymus I've detected a panel already running,07:41
jeff303and will now exit.07:41
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TiMiDopigeta: go to #ubuntu-it07:41
TiMiDotell pigeta about it07:42
TiMiDo!tell pigeta about it07:42
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jeff303Hieronymus: actually in system monitor there are two instances showing up07:42
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vengefullol you dont even know what he wants yet ;-)07:42
d3vicehi07:42
Hieronymusjeff303: so it is there already :/07:42
_iGadget_hmmm... there's mkfs.reiserfs and mkfs.reiser4... which one should I use?07:42
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Hieronymusjeff303: how about killing these 2 gnome-panels?07:42
TiMiDoit is for people that speak italian vengeful07:42
PalleLap!tell PalleLap about ru07:42
vengefulmaybe he speaks english07:42
TiMiDo_iGadget_: whatever you want07:42
_iGadget_Timido: sure, but which one is better? :)07:43
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TiMiDomkfs407:43
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jeff303Hieronymus: one of them keeps restarting itself07:43
_iGadget_Timido: allright... I'll take that one07:43
vengeful!tell Toma- about au07:43
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jeff303Hieronymus: but it still didn't fix the bottom bar07:43
Hieronymusjeff303: that's actually normal behaviourd, I think07:43
vengefulhehe07:43
Toma-...07:43
jeff303Hieronymus: makse sense07:43
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xml-blogTiMiDo, i think i figured out why gnome-art not working for me. I compiled my own ruby (/usr/local/bin) so I probably don't have the 'gnome_art' lib require wants. just thought i'd pass it on07:44
jeff303Hieronymus: could this have to do with having bad sectors on my disk?07:44
vengefulsorry toma just a joke07:44
Toma-right.07:44
d3vicewill breezy work well with two soundcards ?07:44
Hieronymusjeff303: I don't know07:44
HappyFoolHieronymus: hmm. I'm not really sure i can help. It's not obvious to me which command would break things, though all those umounts and mounts look a bit suspect07:44
johnsie2kAnyone have the Marvell w8300 drivers????????07:44
TiMiDooh no wonder xml-blog07:44
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Hieronymusjeff303: ask someone else07:44
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TiMiDobrb07:44
xml-blogTiMiDo, yeah I did that a while back since hoary's Ruby wasn't Rails compatible07:44
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N6REJnobody has opinoin on qoutas?07:45
TiMiDoand she's buying a stair way to heaven07:45
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N6REJgrrrrr quotas even07:45
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HieronymusHappyFool: that was after it messed up07:46
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HieronymusHappyFool: I tried to 'solve' it07:46
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syli725hi, what is network config command in ubuntu? in fedora, that is just system-config-network.07:46
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HieronymusHappyFool: Do you know of a command that can see whether there's still dat on the disk? (And restore it if possible)07:46
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HappyFoolso after the debootstrap it was broken ?07:47
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HieronymusHappyFool: yeah, somewhere at that point07:47
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d3vicewill breezy work  with two soundcards ?07:47
xxtremesector1007:47
HieronymusHappyFool: it was a few commands before the mount/umount stuff07:47
HappyFoolHieronymus: maybe a combination of lvscan and lvdisplay07:47
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eyequeuesyli725:  are you looking for 'man5 interfaces'07:47
HieronymusHappyFool: I hadn't realised it immediately07:47
HappyFoolHieronymus: 'man lvm' lists a number of lvm related commands07:47
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syli725eyequeue, i don't understand that. i am looking for a network config GUI program.07:48
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syli725my kubuntu can't detect my network card ?? that is really weird.07:48
navynnalioths_dog, don't you ever sleep?  do you live on here?07:48
eyequeuesyli725:  gui i cant help with07:48
jeff303Hieronymus: ok, that's interesting, I just added the program list and workspace switcher to the panel and now it's back to normal07:48
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jeff303Hieronymus: guess they just got taken off somehow07:48
_iGadget_d3vice: as long as they're not conflicting in hardware, I guess it should work07:48
thornhello07:48
jeff303Hieronymus: thanks for your tip about the process though07:49
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HieronymusHappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3019 lvscan and lvdisplay07:49
syli725hi, guys, what to do? my kubuntu can't find my network card !?07:49
Eareredhello, Nautilus is acting strangely with me under Breezy, I would like to know if I'm alone?07:49
HieronymusHappyFool: _looks_ normal to me07:49
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ckruegeranyone know how to enable vino/remote desktop through the shell?07:49
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eyequeuesyli725:  it doesn't show up in dmesg|less ?07:49
syli725eyequeue, it doesn't show up in ifconfig.07:50
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axeusAnyone know of a program to shadow windows in gnome?07:50
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ompaulTuxar1a07:50
eyequeuesyli725:  that lists interfaces, not hardware07:50
syli725eyequeue, i never use dmesg. so i can't say much about the output.07:50
d3vice_iGadget_, thx07:50
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navynaxeus, what do you mean by shadow?07:50
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HieronymusHappyFool: I'm not really sure whether it's lvm-related. I never messed with lvm07:50
syli725eyequeue, can you tell me what to grep?07:50
_iGadget_syli725: you need to know so basic info about your network card... what chip is it based on?07:51
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bslimahey breezy is really coming out tomorrow ?07:51
syli725_iGadget_, sorry. i don't know hardware. i am really bad in hardware part.07:51
navynaxeus, i think you might be talking about transset07:51
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axeusnavyn: Drop shadows under windows.07:51
_iGadget_syli725: well... is it onboard or a separate pci card?07:51
axeustransset huh07:51
eyequeuesyli725:  i really dont know your hardware, but 'dmesg | grep eth' might be a starting point07:52
syli725_iGadget_, separate card. that is a ibm laptop.07:52
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_iGadget_syli725: I see... so it's a pcmcia card then?07:52
dougskosyli725: is it a wireless card?07:52
Toma-sif transset, you want xcompmgr for shadows07:52
navynyeah there was a tut. in the hoary howtos, using transset and something else, xcommgr i think07:52
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leoneljust upgraded from hoary  to breezy  and there's no  bootsplash    any clue who to enable it ?07:53
Toma-axeus: you want dropshadows and transparency?07:53
syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_RealTek RTL8139 ..... identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'07:53
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HappyFoolHieronymus: hrm, sorry, i'm out of ideas.07:53
syli725dougsko, no.07:53
navynaxeus, i hope it fairs better on your machine, than mine, it made things alot slower for me07:53
nrbqhowdy, folks07:53
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nrbqwhat a nasty evening this is turning out to be!07:53
axeusToma- No transparency, just drop-shadows.07:53
_iGadget_syli725: well, that sounds familiar... not a pcmcia card then?07:53
pmjhow can i print ntilde using us_intl keyboard07:53
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nrbqDoes anyone know of a good appy for Ubuntu that will slow sound files without changing the pitch?07:53
axeusnavyn: What are your specs?07:53
eyequeuesyli725:  dmesg | grep 8139, it should be loading one of two drivers for that chipset07:53
navynaxeus, p4 2.6 ghz 1 gig ram07:54
syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_, saw the output? i don't know what pcmia card means. sorry.  there is no such network configuration program in unbuntu? Jesus.07:54
Dejavuhi .. is there a PS2 Emulator  for Linux ?07:54
HieronymusHappyFool: too bad :-( You don't know any program to restore data, do you?07:54
Toma-axeus: you need to write in a section and enable some stuff in xorg.conf first, restart X and run xcompmgr -C, after you download it of course07:54
navynaxeus, xcompmgr is what you need07:54
axeusVideo card? Do you use vesa or proper drvers?07:54
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Earered:(, it's the python-nautilus package that make it crash in fact, strange...07:54
Toma-google will help u get the section u need07:54
eyequeuesyli725:  pcmcia is one of the fat credit cards that goes in the side of laptops07:54
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syli725eyequeue, i saw 4 outputs now.07:54
Toma-axeus: use the real drivers. otherwise you'll slow down to a halt07:54
_iGadget_syli725: no idea, I always use the console for that :)07:54
navynaxeus, go to ubuntuforums, and check out the how to-s for hoary, its in there07:55
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axeusToma-: I've got proper drivers installed. i810's.07:55
Toma-gewd ;)07:55
syli725eyequeue, i can't paste. let me type it here if you want.07:55
_iGadget_syli725: pcmcia are those typical credit-card like cards used to extend laptops07:55
mohkohnHas anybody here worked with usermode linux?07:55
syli725eyequeue, 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.2707:55
axeushermph07:55
eyequeuesyli725:  its possible theres some gui app, but none in here now seem to prefer those things07:55
mohkohnIn ubuntu?07:55
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Dejavuhi .. is there a Play Station 2        Emulator  for Linux ?07:56
syli725eyequeue, 8129cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.207:56
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thenukeDejavu: there is no good emulator yet07:56
thenukeDejavu: for any OS07:56
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eyequeuesyli725:  okay, 8139too is a good driver for that card, and it appears to be being loaded after autosensing07:56
_iGadget_syli725: what if you just type 'sudo ifconfig eth0 [ip] '?07:56
nrbqcan anyone help me with recurring "Broken Packages" messages?07:56
pigetabut a ps207:56
syli725_iGadget_, thanks for explaning what pcmcia is. but i still don't get it.07:56
axeusnavyn: I'm in Breezy. But oh well.07:56
pigetabuy07:56
navynDejavu,  the only good one i think is ZSNES. lol07:57
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thenukeDejavu: some games might work like that you can fire them up but cant play. rest of the games wont work at all, and so on07:57
navynaxeus, it might work the same in breezy, not gonna promise that of course07:57
Dejavuand does ZSNES runs on Linux ? :D07:57
funkyHat>:(07:57
mohkohnI know I need kernel-patch-uml, kernel-patch-skas and uml-utilities07:57
navynDejavu, Yes,07:57
syli725_iGadget_, sudo reminds me that the installtion process never asked me give root password. what the hell?07:57
Toma-epsxe is an awesome playstation 1 emulator....07:57
pigetagoogle07:57
funkyHatmono-beagled is using 1.2GiB of Virtual Memory >:(07:57
axeusDejavu: Yes, of course.07:57
tarzeausomeone like to play with me http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ?07:57
_iGadget_syli725: well.. you're saying it's a separate card on a laptop... so I'm wondering what type of card it is, then07:57
HieronymusHappyFool: thanks anyway07:57
HieronymusAnyone knows of a tool to restore my files?07:58
syli725eyequeue, so what to do now?07:58
_iGadget_syli725: that's normal, there's no root passwd at default07:58
mohkohnBut all the debian based tutorials tell me to install a package called user-mode-linux07:58
eyequeuesyli725:  try System > Administration > Networking yet?07:58
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mohkohnHow do I apply a kernel patch?07:58
mohkohnUbuntu style07:58
_iGadget_syli725: you do all root stuff using sudo07:58
navynmohkohn, very carefully07:58
syli725_iGadget_, that's really weird to me. so how can I su to root now? i don't know password. i tried. i can't07:58
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HappyFool!tell mohkohn about kernelhowto07:58
Hieronymussyli725: you use your own password, for _your_ user07:59
Dejavuoo lala .. better try it then !  has anyone tried so far btw ?07:59
eyequeuesyli725:  su to root?  you may want sudo -s07:59
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mohkohnthanks07:59
_iGadget_syli725: don't use su, use sudo instead07:59
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syli725eyequeue, i am using kde. kubuntu. can't find those network tools.07:59
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navyni didn't know until the other day, that breezy has its own ubuntuguide included in the Help File.  That is cool08:00
syli725_iGadget_, does it mean ubuntu doesn't have root account? that's wierd.08:00
LokeDKglxgears.. it doesn't print fps?08:00
Dejavuaxeus, have u tried it ? :D08:00
HieronymusLokeDK: that's true, and it's not a bug08:00
eyequeuesyli725:  oh, these are probably gnome things, ubuntu, i dont use gui for that so maybe kde lacks that, i dont use kde08:00
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axeusDejavu: No. Seen alot of screenshots of it under X though.08:00
_iGadget_syli725: you can enable it if you really want to, there's several howto's out there08:00
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LokeDKHieronymus, it used to do?08:00
_iGadget_syli725: I have kubuntu here... you need the control center08:01
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syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_, so what should I do now?08:01
HieronymusLokeDK: the maintainer got angry at people using it as a benchmark tool08:01
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syli725_iGadget_, kcontrol ?08:01
LokeDKoh okay.. what to use instead?08:01
axeusFlup @ searching forums for compmgr stuff.08:01
Dejavuaxeus, looks like all they get is jusst one Frame and they upload it as a screenshot .. lol .    ;)08:01
HieronymusLokeDK: you can still let it print fps though08:01
_iGadget_syli725: Control center -> Network settings08:01
nrbqam I likely to have to re-install to correct my "broken packages" errors?08:02
_iGadget_syli725: kcontrol? could be the same :)08:02
LokeDKHieronymus, hmm how?08:02
LokeDKno man pages08:02
navynhey guys, does SANE have an IRC room?08:02
syli725_iGadget_, yeah. i saw it. i clicked administration mode. it asked me password.08:02
eyequeuenrbq:  start with 'sudo apt-get -f install' first08:02
seliniumapoZ`, Why do you wait half an hour before doing stuff?08:02
HieronymusLokeDK: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark08:02
_iGadget_syli725: and did you try your own password?08:02
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syli725_iGadget_, yeah, it works.08:03
LokeDKlol what a parameter :P but thanks08:03
syli725_iGadget_, ubuntu is weird.08:03
HieronymusLokeDK: np08:03
syli725_iGadget_, really different from fedora08:03
Hieronymussyli725: sure is08:03
_iGadget_syli725: wohee... that's great (it doesn't seem to work here... but then again, my system is quite f*cked)08:04
nrbqeyequeue, no dice - it still complains08:04
syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_, i can't enable the etho0 card08:04
nrbqI just installed this fresh this morning, so I'm not married to anything that's on here.08:04
nrbqI'ts just that it was doing this yesterday, too08:04
nrbqand it wasn't a problem on a different laptop earlier in the week08:04
_iGadget_syli725: what if you just try 'sudo ifconfig eth0 [ip] ' instead?08:04
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syli725_iGadget_, what is [ip]  ?08:05
nrbqoh, well - might as well get started08:05
cevizogluif you had a thinkpad t43 which reports bad cylinders every time you boot into ubuntu, (four times in a row), and then fsck reports there are bad blocks on the drive, would you scrap the drive, or just reformat it and try again?08:05
nrbqOne thing, though08:05
_iGadget_syli725: the IP you want your network card to get08:05
nrbqShould I make sure I run an update after the initial installation before trying to apt-get anything?08:05
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cevizogluer, not bad cylinders but incorrect cylinder count08:06
syli725_iGadget_, you are professional.08:06
=== dbug hi ppl
_iGadget_syli725: neah.... I'm a 'prutser' ;)08:06
mohkohnWhen you download patches or other source code into a specific source tree, you don't want anything else messing with it.08:06
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eyequeueifup eth0 will use dhcp if properly configured in interfaces(5)08:06
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syli725_iGadget_,  eyequeue,  sorry. doesn't really work. i just saw eth0 in ifconfig. i thought that will work. but it doesn't. no route.08:07
ckruegeris there any way to enable remote desktop/vino via the terminal (through SSH)?08:07
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_iGadget_eyequeue: I doubt it's properly configured... Or it would have worked right now, don't you agree?08:07
El_Chemmm, hibernation still dead in breezy (worked on hoary). I hope they fix it in time08:07
eyequeue_iGadget_:  yep heh08:07
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mohkohnThats the only reference to patch on the whole page. What do I do with kernel-patch-uml08:07
_iGadget_syli725: so what does 'ifconfig eth0 [your IP here] ' do?08:08
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eyequeue_iGadget_:  but he didn't like man 5 interfaces, wanted something gui, so i cant help08:08
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daakuckrueger: not sure about vino but you can run vncserver from the shell and connect to the desktop08:08
_iGadget_eyequeue: true, true ;)08:09
syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_this is really weird. Both fedora and windows can easily do the job. ubuntu really disappoints me.08:09
eyequeuegui confuses me too much08:09
El_Che_iGadget_: system-administration-network?08:09
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ckruegerk08:09
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eyequeuesyli725:  use what you prefer, really08:09
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_iGadget_syli725: just because we don't know how to do it in GUI doesn't mean Ubuntu can't do it...08:09
ckruegerdaaku, what command line flags should i run to have it connect to the root session?  just set the screen flag to 0?08:09
syli725_iGadget_, it doesn nothing. maybe. no output.08:09
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ernstphttp://zapp.no-ip.com/breezy/mail-notification_2.0-1_i386.deb08:09
ernstpMail Notification 2.0 for breezy08:09
ernstpif anyone's interested08:09
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_iGadget_syli725: if you didn't get an error message, it's probably up now... try 'ifconfig'08:10
daakuckrueger: i dont think vncserver supports that, iirc it spawns its own server and session08:10
axeusflup08:10
syli725_iGadget_, fedora can auto detect everything. I don't need to configure at all. ubuntu can't enable my network. well. it is enabled now. but doesn't work.08:10
syli725_iGadget_, it is up. but i can't connect to anywhere.08:10
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xiaogili have deleted ~/.evolution drawer, but when i open Evolution, the configuration about account is still there, where is this configuration stored ?08:10
eyequeuesyli725:  _iGadget_ and i just happen to know how to get our things working via command line.  maybe someone later will know some kde app08:10
syli725_iGadget_, even not in my LAN08:10
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_iGadget_syli725: okay, does your card have a valid IP for your network?08:11
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ckruegerdaaku, dammit...08:11
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munkei need some help im new to ubuntu and cant find firewall configurations in my desktop08:11
syli725_iGadget_, sure. as what I said. both fedora and  windows can work properly.08:11
syli725_iGadget_, for that laptop.08:12
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_iGadget_syli725: okay... do you know the IP of your default gateway?08:12
Hieronymus_iGadget_: Nederlandse 'prutsers' zijn welkom op #ubuntu-nl08:12
_iGadget_Hieronymus: great... I'll see you there :D08:12
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syli725_iGadget_, yeah, just 192.168.1.1. i edited in Routes under kcontrol. still doesn't work.08:12
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_iGadget_syli725: type 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1'08:13
eyequeuesyli725: no one says you have to stick with kubuntu, but you've given me enough data for me to know it's capable of dealing with your networking, i wouldn't give up because of that, but i sure dont know kde apps, you have to decide for yourself08:13
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paxmasterok I just install  a ubuntu server and it has a dvd burnder, how can i burn dvd in command line08:13
kemikgrowisofs08:13
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yuachtplease help, i get a error 104 and "server caught signal 11" trying to start x, latest breezy08:14
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lancellorhey guys quick question i have a external hard drive and i have mi ubuntu system and a mac powerbook the instructions tellme i need to format my new drive on mac system partition what should i do do you think mac will read fat 32>>08:14
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Subliminalhas anyone else noticed mozilla hanging alot in breezy?08:15
AndieBHI all!08:15
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Spudchatdid you try to reconfigure xserver-xorg ?08:15
rob_pmunke:  Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall configuration utility by default.08:15
Spudchatyuacht08:15
syli725_iGadget_, no luck.08:15
yuachtSpudchat: yes i did08:15
eyequeuelancellor:  i thought mac used hfs, but a mac channel might have a more definitive answer08:15
xiaogilThere's a configuration file for Evolution which is independant from the .evolution drawer, and that contains informations about the accounts, where is this file ? Someone can answer ?08:15
Spudchati dunno then...that fixed the problem i had with it08:15
munkerob_p: thanks08:16
Spudchatsorry08:16
lancellori want to put all my music amnd movies on the external hard drive and i want to use the power book with itunes but i used my ubuntu system 90 percent of the time08:16
sridhow long before release?08:16
AndieBI've installed MySQL on my Hoary distribution, and aswell installed a GUI for managing the databases I have.. but WHERE do I find the file to execute?08:16
_iGadget_syli725: hmmm... It's kind of strange you're telling me you have a separate network card for your laptop... and yet it seems to be a rtl8139... Are you sure that's not the onboard NIC?08:16
mohkohnI seem to find tons of stuff on how to complie a kernel but not how to apply the patch08:16
eyequeuesrid:  under 1 day, if all goes well08:16
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sridping08:17
rob_pmunke:  Unless you have special requirements, you probably don't need a firewall anyway.08:17
Skidpong08:17
Skid:P08:17
_iGadget_Syli725: especially because the driver says it's pci08:17
mohkohnOr do I just need to apt-get install kernel-patch-uml and its done automagically?08:17
syli725_iGadget_, i don't know what is onboard NIC. But the card is separeted because I bought it separatedly. I plugged it in.08:17
dbugto fixed pachs pachs with apt-get, what comand is ?08:17
dbugto fixed pachs  with apt-get, what comand is ?08:17
srideyequeue: today is Oct 1308:17
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srideyequeue: thanks for the update :)08:18
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raingrovehey08:18
raingrovehello08:18
raingroveanyone?08:18
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raingrovehow do i extract RPM? instead of installing it08:18
daakulancellor: try amarok, if you want a powerful media player its got everything itunes has and more08:18
_iGadget_syli725: plugged it in what exactly... describe that in more detail please... is it USB?08:18
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eyequeuesrid:  if all goes well <-- if they find some show-stopper bug, they will of course delay (horay was delayed a week)08:18
daakulancellor: or if you just want itunes, you could always use vnc08:18
eyequeueraingrove:  "man rpm" should show the various options for that program :)08:19
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syli725_iGadget_, no. plugged it into the laptop. half of card is inside the laptop. half of the card is outside the laptop.08:19
raingroveeyequeue: but i do not want to install the rpm package. i just want to extract the contents.08:20
srideyequeue: then I should start downloading RC1 right away08:20
srideyequeue: and do dist-upgrade?08:20
syli725_iGadget_, btw, i don't think this is important. I think there is something wrong with the OS network configuration. (maybe)08:20
_iGadget_syli725: so it's a credit-card like card?08:20
eyequeueraingrove:  "man rpm" should show the various options for the /usr/bin/rpm program, which is how you manipulate .rpm files08:20
eyequeuesrid:  do you have any ubuntu installed presently?08:21
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syli725_iGadget_, i don't really know what you mean with "card". it is like card. but not that thin. it is thick. thick card.08:21
_iGadget_syli725: it could very well be important, because if it's a pcmcia card, you need separate modules for that08:21
raingroveeyequeue: yes but is rpm able to extract rpm files?08:21
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eyequeuerpm (8)              - RPM Package Manager08:21
raingroveeyequeue: if i am not wrong it can only install, upgrade, remove, query or build08:21
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syli725_iGadget_, let me call t thick card now. it's not like credit card. that is really thin.08:21
telonirhow do i install the nvidia drivers ( whats the package name) i cant find an "nvidia-kernel" package08:22
_iGadget_syli725: I know... it's like the size of a credit card, but way thicker. That makes it PCMCIA to me :p08:22
_iGadget_syli725: and for PCMCIA, you need separate modules... cardmgr and all that08:22
rob_praingrove:  Maybe alien can help you.  man alien for info...08:23
eyequeuesrid:  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade for upgrading, and yes the rc cd would be a starting point if you don't have ubuntu of any sort installed yet08:23
srideyequeue: yeah, upgraded to breezy last month08:23
syli725_iGadget_, ok. so what to do? sorry to trouble you. i just don't know what to do...08:23
GNULinuxercan anybody tell me if the breezy release is on schedule?08:23
_iGadget_syli725: so what I believe, is that the rtl8139 is actually not the card you plugged in :)08:23
telonirin which repository the nvidia kernel driver is?08:23
raingroverob_p eyequeue / that's right. alien is the tool.08:23
telonir(nvidia.o and friends)08:23
srideyequeue: but I am planning to reinstall everything as I am going to install Windows for dual boot08:23
_iGadget_syli725: and that's why it's not working... Have you actually checked if your laptop doesn't a a network card build in?08:23
sridGNULinuxer: need not08:24
eyequeuesrid:  follow the web page, but just an apt-get command pair should be all you need (update [dist-] upgrade)08:24
GNULinuxersri: what?08:24
raingroverob_p / thanks08:24
syli725_iGadget_, i pretty sure there is no card built in. that is old laptop. 5 years old.08:24
srideyequeue: yeah, but I need to re-install .. so thought of waiting for breezy08:24
eyequeueraingrove:  alien will create a deb from an rpm08:24
telonirhelp?!08:24
rob_praingrove:  no prob :-)08:24
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raingroveeyequeue: i just want to convert rpm to tar.gz so that i can extract the files, not install them.08:25
_iGadget_syli725: the rtl8139 already existed in 1998 afaik...08:25
Bad_Magicanyone know why my trashcan and show desktop icons are gone with a breezy upgrade?08:25
HappyFool!tell telonir about nvidia08:25
HappyFooltelonir: read that wiki page08:25
syli725_iGadget_, well. Please beleive me there is no build-in network card. I am stupid. but not like that stupid. please.08:25
GNULinuxer!tell GNULinuxer about breezy08:26
eyequeuesrid:  fetch the almost-complete rc cd if you like, then apt-get update/upgrade in  a few days, or fetch the new cd in a few days ... i'd do the former, before the mirrors get bogged down heh08:26
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mohkohnDoes Ubuntu automatically patch with whatever kernel patches are in /usr/source when you compile?08:26
lancellorlinux could read and write on mac file partition HFS+08:26
mohkohnOr is there a way to apply a patch?08:26
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_iGadget_syli725: okay... but I've never heard of a pcmcia card with an rtl8139 chip. And I don't have much experience with troubleshooting PCMCIA either... so I guess you need someone more experienced than me :(08:27
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StRhi all08:27
dumaisoCan anybody tell me if linux can read/write NTFS partitions or it is just read-only?08:27
StRI have problems with breezy + pear08:27
eyequeuesyli725:  you're not stupid :)  but many obvious things are overlooked by experts even :)  online helpers learn not to presume too much :)  don't see an insult08:27
Bad_Magicread only unless youw ant to risk blowing up your ntfs partition08:27
syli725_iGadget_, thank you very much for your help. let me try something more before i give up.08:27
kemikdumaiso:  it's possible, but not worht the trouble08:28
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Skiddumaiso: it can write to it, but you'll fuck your partition up :P08:28
kemikdumaiso:  read up about "captive"08:28
TiMiDoSkid: please behave08:28
syli725eyequeue, thanks. :)08:28
dumaisook... thanks08:28
TiMiDo!tell Skid about swear08:28
Skid...08:28
Bad_Magic!icon08:28
ubotuBad_Magic: I don't know, could you explain it?08:28
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dumaisoSkid:  and what about fat32?08:28
Bad_Magicfat32 = read/write08:28
Skidit's fine, dumaiso08:28
dumaisothanks!08:28
kemikdumaiso:  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/08:28
Bad_Magiccan anyone tell me why im missing a couple of icons since i upgraded?08:29
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mohkohn ../kernel-patches/all/apply/uml08:29
TiMiDoBad_Magic: what icons?08:29
mohkohnDoes that look sensible?08:29
syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_, btw my mouse behave really slow. how to solve this? graphic card problem?08:29
Bad_Magicshow desktop, trashcan, hard drive08:29
dumaisokemik:  is it safe?08:29
mohkohnThen compile?08:29
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Bad_Magiclike they show up as generic icons (or an icon with an X in it)08:29
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vinnuihi08:30
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yuachtwhat does a "server caught signal 11" and error 104 in xorg mean? latest breezy, PLEASE need help!08:30
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kemikdumaiso:  nothing is ever 'safe'08:30
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eyequeueyuacht:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:31
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eyequeueyuacht:  sig11 is typically hardware/memory08:31
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syli725eyequeue, _iGadget_, I believe that my sound card is not working as well. maybe i should switch back to fedora.08:31
dumaisokemik:  i'm just asking because people here said i can fuck my partition08:31
yuachteyequeue: hmm, it worked just before i did the latest xorg upgrade08:31
El_Chesyli725: copy you fedora config08:32
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mohkohnHow do you apply kernel-patch-uml?08:32
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kemikdumaiso:  im not using it myself, but yes, it should be somewhat 'safe' ...08:32
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eyequeuesyli725:  i'm not much of a sound guy, but at least have fedora available until you can get someone that can help you get thing working, i'd say08:32
syli725El_Che, thanks for replying. not sure how. :)08:32
raingrovedumaiso: why exactly do u need to write to an NTFS partition08:33
kemikdumaiso:  but read the page i gave you08:33
El_Chesyli725: have a look at /etc/alsa08:33
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mohkohnsyli725, I have the opposite problem to you. My sound works in ubuntu but not fedora!08:33
syli725El_Che, i deleted fedora in my laptop already.08:33
WinZAnybody knows why mc doesn't change encoding by pressing Ctrl+T?08:33
eyequeueyuacht:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log <-- that file should give you as much info as xorg could figure out before it crashed08:33
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El_Chesyli725: ah ok08:33
_iGadget_syli725: to be honest - I'm still fuzzing around with my sound settings as well... maybe everything will work better with breezy ;)08:33
DShepher1kemik: drop that link again,,,,about NTFS08:33
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NaTeekhallo08:34
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syli725mohkohn, :)08:34
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kemikDShepher1:08:34
kemikhttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/08:34
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yuachteyequeue: seems like it's failing when loading libglx.so (glx extension)08:35
DShepher1kemik: thanks08:35
NaTeeki want to open and save eps files with inkscape. but it didn't work. du i need to install sketch to import eps files?08:35
mohkohnsyli725, plus I have to copy my xorg.conf from ubuntu to fedora. Some systems like some computers.08:35
yuachteyequeue: glx module i mean08:35
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Bad_Magicooh i like the new theme08:35
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syli725mohkohn, that's weird. if you don't like fedora, why do you use it? if ubuntu works perfect for you.08:36
eyequeueyuacht:  i did see mention of glx issues earlier in here (from you maybe though?)08:36
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syli725mohkohn, i am using fedora right now to talk with you.08:36
mohkohnsyli725, I have it on another partition. I want to know how to use both package systems08:36
fredforfaenafter i did a dist-upgrade to breezy i have blended norwegain and english language in gnome and apps....any ideas?08:36
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yuachteyequeue: probably from me08:37
yuachti wrote here earlier08:37
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occysurely it has to be the 13th some place08:37
eyequeueyuacht:  i guess i'd search bugzilla on it (if an upgraded package doesn't pop up soon that is)08:37
eyequeueyuacht:  file a report if no one has yet too08:38
mohkohnBy the way has anybody here who has been using breezy had problems installing skype?08:38
syli725mohkohn, why do you want to know how to use different package system?08:38
lasindi[lappy] I tried to install Adobe Reader, but if you enter the command (acroread), it just quits and does nothing. Is there a way to fix this?08:38
cioI'm thinking about switching from debian to ubuntu, can someone give me a really good reason?08:38
paulproteuscio: Everything will be slightly easier. ;)08:38
Skidcio: I run debian on all my servers, bar one - but moved from deb to ubuntu on my laptop & pc08:38
eyequeuecio:  6-month release cycle?08:38
syli725mohkohn, i saw that problem in ubuntu known problem list.08:38
paulproteuscio: Six-month releases are great.08:38
Skidbasically it's better desktop support08:38
nsomniaccio : security08:38
BlankBcio: the people on #ubuntu are nice.08:39
Skider, a better os08:39
mohkohnsyli725, so I can study for the LPI and in the workplace you can encounter rpm and deb systems. Best to learn both08:39
paulproteusBlankB: Good point. :)08:39
mweyuacht: libglx.so failed to load for me too before i linked /usr/X11/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.208:39
cioGreat stuff, thanks guys!08:39
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syli725mohkohn, yum is getting better. i just don't like selinux.08:39
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mweyuacht: after backing up the original /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.208:39
dsmknld80Hi I was thinking of running ubuntu on a laptop, i have a dell l400 does anyone recomend it?08:40
dsmknld80L40008:40
floradsmknld80: yes08:40
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Skidruns fine on my inspiron 8200, dsmknld8008:40
popeydsmknld80: i run ubuntu on a dell inspiron xps gen 208:40
popeyruns very nicely :D08:40
mohkohnsyli725, you can switch off selinux. Or not activate it when you install.08:40
Skidhibernation supported out of the box too08:40
El_Chedsmknld80: hoary was great on my hP. Brezy doe not support hibernation, but it's not out yet. Proably they will fix it before it's out08:40
cioI'm going to install it on my OQO, which is why I asked.  Is Ubuntu based on another distro?  What package management system does it use?08:40
raingrovedebian08:41
raingroveapt08:41
dsmknld80Awesome does the USB work ok08:41
cioCool!08:41
popeydsmknld80: yes08:41
raingroveyea. it's the best ever08:41
eyequeuedsmknld80:  search for your laptop and support, but it's good on my laptop here08:41
syli725mohkohn, yeah, i know that. but it uses my hard disk. my laptop has small harddisk. :) hehe. anyway.08:41
brainsailwhen I logout in gnome I get the option "hibernate the computer". Is that software suspend2 or something else? and how can I resume?08:41
raingrovetry Kubuntu, if u prefer KDE like me08:41
lasindi[lappy] Has anyone else here had trouble installing Adobe Reader on Ubuntu?08:41
eyequeueand hibernation is supported here on breezy08:41
mohkohnYum and Apt have really improved Fedora. Plus I noticed Jeff Waugh (Ubuntu) developer keeps close tabs on their development for ideas for ubuntu.08:41
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dsmknld80Thanks guys, also one more thing how much ram will it need, I have 128 on my L400 do you think it will be ok08:42
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raingroveno08:42
popeydsmknld80: no08:42
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raingrovelasindi[lappy] , i am running acroread find08:42
raingrovefine08:42
popeydsmknld80: i found it hard work in 256MB, not I have 2GB08:42
popeys/not/now08:42
El_Cheeyequeue: mine worked great on hoary, that's why i am sure it will work again in breezy soon08:42
eyequeuebrainball:  swsusp2, yes, and just reboot to the same kernel you hibernated from08:42
raingrovemohkohn, u mean there's Apt in Fedora?08:42
mohkohnYes apt-rpm08:42
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mwelasindi[lappy] : where did you install it? maybe you need the full path to acroread to execute it.08:42
eyequeuebrainsail:    swsusp2, yes, and just reboot to the same kernel you hibernated from08:43
[A] ndy80I've java JDK 1.5.0 installed but my JAVA_HOME is not set. How can I know the right path?08:43
lightxquestion regarding QT giving me a hard time with mythtv build from svn always complaining about QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded08:43
raingrovemohkohn, what's the difference between that and apt-deb?08:43
mohkohnraingrove, http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/faq.html08:43
lightxanyone have any clue on how to solve this?08:43
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raingroveoh08:43
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albinoWhen are you guys planning on releasing breezy?08:43
brainsaileyequeue, but nothing happens after hibernate when I press the power button on this laptop08:43
mohkohnSame basic idea but works for rpm packages instead of debs08:43
raingrovetoday08:43
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HappyFoollasindi[lappy] : there's a bug in acroread in hoary08:44
Xyc0What happened to the right click on desktop terminal option for Breezy?08:44
coolkevi just got breezy by adding th repos and using the update, and then i rebooted and got the ubuntu-base package.. i couldn't get the ubuntu-desktop package so i got he other xubuntu-desktop package08:44
coolkevand after i rebooted08:44
eyequeuebrainsail:  does hibernate shut the machine down?08:44
yuachtmwe: i dont have a libGL.so.1.208:44
coolkevmy X won't start08:44
raingrovemohkohn/ oh crap. i migrated from FC4 to kubuntu because of apt-get! hehehe08:44
HappyFoollasindi[lappy] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcrobatHowTo08:44
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brainsaileyequeue, no, the harddisk is still spinning08:45
coolkevi get this blue screen of death on ubuntu asking me if wanna view the problem but i can't move the cursor08:45
coolkevor anything08:45
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yuachtcoolkev: what error do u get? perhaps the same as me08:45
eyequeuebrainsail:  breezy?08:45
coolkevi managed to get into console08:45
eyequeuebrainsail:  check /etc/default/acpi*08:45
lasindi[lappy] HappyFool, thanks!08:45
mohkohnraingrove, personally I find ubuntu easier to work with. I use fedora more for learning. Destroying the system in order to learn it.08:45
raingrovehaha08:46
coolkevmaybe, yuacht... when the u start your computer nad ubuntu does the whole check thingy, at the end it's suppose to got that login screen, but it doesn't08:46
mweyuacht: ok. I just saw libglx.so failing to load for you. what are you trying to do excatly?08:46
eyequeuemohkohn:  slackware was good for that too :)08:46
coolkevit ries a couple of times but fails08:46
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raingrovemohkohn / i like to recommend ubuntu/kubuntu to linux newbies, but, the text mode installer really turn them down08:46
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coolkevand shows a blue screen where it says X could not be started would you like to view the problem.. i try t press [enter]  but it doesn't respond08:47
Kelraithis it safe to install the kubuntu desktop on ubuntu?08:47
yuachtmwe: i just dont have the .2, i have .0.766708:47
raingroveKelraith, yes08:47
hmrochahello, i want to change the gdm image, what should i edit?08:47
coolkevso i hit random keys till i got to console08:47
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mohkohnI spent the last 4 days playing with gentoo. But it just got tiring. Had a functional ubuntu desktop with multimedia in one hour08:47
KelraithCool, I want to try it again, last time it broke gnome08:47
raingroveKelraith, huh how did it break it?08:48
coolkev!breezy08:48
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ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:48
NoUsehmrocha run the login manager config in Gnome08:48
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Kelraithgnome on login would take over ten minutes to display the desktop and then be fine. Shut down was the same ten minute wait08:48
raingroveKelraith, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE08:48
hmrochaNoUse, the "human" theme is selected, i just want to change that image08:48
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solidgroovebreezy will be out tonight?08:49
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NoUseI'm faily sure the image and the theme are closely tied08:49
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apokryphostonight/tomorrow depending on where you are08:49
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stianjam I the only one with problems with beagle on breezy?08:49
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Kelraiththat what I used. I'm running breezy now... Some things are broken, but I am patient08:50
tediBJ08:50
psykequick question, and I checked online. I'm trying to access my ubuntu box via vnc (on windows), but when I enter the address into the viewer the connection is refused. Any ideas? I've configured ubuntu to allow remote access and setup the password08:50
hmrochaNoUse, i have an ubuntu image made by a friend, i just want to change the default ubuntu image to the image i have08:50
Xyc0What happened to right-click on desktop Terminal option?08:50
KelraithIs there a way to install baldurs gate with wine?08:50
NoUsehmrocha I don't know, read up on the gdm docs and see if they say08:50
brainsaileyequeue, I have 5.04, and  /etc/default/acpi* is in its default state, acpi hibernation is enabled, does that conflict with software suspend?08:50
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raingrovei am running breezy kubuntu08:51
tedi;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;?08:51
raingrovethings are fine except "systemsettings" that replaced "kcontrol"08:51
tedic koi08:51
apokryphostedi: what are you doing?08:51
feugan3333Hi all. How do boot without X. I want to install Nvidia drivers, but can't do so from with in X?08:51
NoUseraingrove you can install kcontrol08:51
apokryphostedi: please don't be annoying08:52
Renan`feugan3333, change the virtual console?08:52
raingroveNoUse, yeap that's what i did08:52
Renan`i used this to install the NVidia driver here08:52
tedipas de francais la dessus ?????????????08:52
NoUsefeugan3333 are you following the nvidia instructions from the ubuntu wiki?08:52
raingroveNoUse, by the way. what's the difference between dist-upgrade and just upgrading every package using synaptic?08:52
apokryphos!fr08:52
uboturumour has it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:52
Subliminalhow do i install a .deb file i've downloaded?08:52
feugan3333NoUse: no on the nvidia site.08:52
NoUseraingrove dist-upgrade is designed for upgrading version of the distro08:52
sockpuppe1gr:08:52
sockpuppe1sh: gr: command not found08:52
Renan`Subliminal, sudo dpkg -i [file name] 08:52
JazzCrazeddkpg -i <name of file>.deb08:52
Subliminalty08:52
NoUse!tell feugan3333 about nvidia08:52
apokryphostedi: English only in here; join #ubuntu-fr08:52
sockpuppe1gr:08:52
sockpuppe1sh: gr: command not found08:52
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raingroveNoUse: I just added the breezy sources and applied full upgrade using synaptic, does that have any problems?08:53
Renan`Sorry if this is a newbie question, but what is the difference between 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?08:53
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NoUseraingrove I'm not sure, I don't use synaptic that much08:53
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dooglusRenan`: dist-upgrade will add new packages, upgrade won't08:53
HieronymusRenan`: dist-upgrade is 'smart'. Read man apt-get for more information on that08:53
tedisalut08:54
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Renan`Hieronymus, will check. thank you08:54
apokryphostedi: I don't want to tell you again... English *only* in here.08:54
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feugan3333NoUse: Ok thanks.08:54
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feugan3333Renan`: how do I change the virtual console. Do you mean ctrl-alt-f1?08:55
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tedic 'est la premiere fois que je suis la dessus !08:55
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xavier_hello world08:55
xavier_salut tedi ... moi aussi08:56
NoUsefeugan3333 don't install using the files from nvidia.com, follow those wiki instructions08:56
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apokryphosxavier_: only English in here08:56
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xavier_j 'avais deja fait un peu d'irc ... avec mirc ... MAis l je tourne sous python / ubuntu08:56
HappyFool!fr08:56
ubotuI heard fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:56
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xavier_allright ... sorry man08:56
Vivaldihello08:56
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Vivaldiis ubuntu as stable as kubuntu?08:56
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feugan3333NoUse: why's that?08:57
Vivaldi(ass long as kde is stable as gnome)08:57
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HieronymusVivaldi: it's mostly the same, except for the packages08:57
NoUsefeugan3333 because its better to install via the package manager08:57
Vivaldiok08:57
chrisx1hey how do i get the root pass on ubuntu?08:57
HappyFoolVivaldi: same system underneath (kernel, libc, etc) so presumably08:57
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Spudchatwhere can i set the display to a custom resolution?08:57
TiMiDochrisx1: sudo -i08:57
HappyFool!tell chrisx1 about root08:57
HieronymusVivaldi: I'd say Ubuntu gets used more and is therefore more stable08:57
xavier_root is deactivated08:57
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eyequeuechrisx1:  not advised08:57
Vivaldii owuld prefer going with kubuntu rather than gnome08:57
TiMiDoor sudo -s08:57
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HiddenWolfxavier_, not deactivated, just not activated08:57
chrisx1ah k08:57
Vivaldijust becouse i prefer kde08:57
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apokryphosHieronymus: then again, you can argue that kde is used more and is therefore more stable08:58
chrisx1just that tryin to install a sh file08:58
chrisx1n i cant08:58
HiddenWolfVivaldi, then just install kubuntu-desktop :)08:58
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HiddenWolfchrisx1, sudo08:58
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feugan3333NoUse: Ok will do. But I'm still interested why I can't boot to console mode, or kill X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace08:58
VivaldiHiddenWolf, you mean from ubuntu?08:58
xavier_how to activ it ?08:58
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TiMiDoxavier_: sudo -s08:58
chrisx1its not found when i do that:S08:58
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HappyFool!tell Spudchat about fixres08:58
xavier_oki thx08:58
HiddenWolfVivaldi, ubuntu is ubuntu-base plus ubuntu-desktop08:58
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HappyFoolSpudchat: maybe not exactly what you want, but it might get you started08:58
HiddenWolfVivaldi, kubuntu is ubuntu-base plus kubuntu-desktop08:59
Vivaldiok08:59
Vivaldii am confused08:59
HappyFool!tell xavier_ about root08:59
Spudchatok cool ill check it out thx08:59
hmrochaNoUse, i changed the original background.png of the Human gdm theme to my png file :)08:59
hmrochaNoUse, worked perfectly08:59
HiddenWolfVivaldi, you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package, and it'll draw in kde, and kubuntu-settings/artwork08:59
NoUsehmrocha cool08:59
Vivaldiso what do i need to download to have a kde system basedo n ubuntu?08:59
xavier_tedi , where you from08:59
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eyequeueVivaldi:  kubuntu08:59
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HiddenWolfVivaldi, kubuntu-desktop if you're already on ubuntu, or the kubuntu-iso if you want to install cleanly08:59
HappyFoolVivaldi: the kubuntu install iso would possibly be easiest09:00
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bmaurerguys, is there any way to make sure that there is no long delay at boot on a laptop that's not plugged into the wired network09:00
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Hieronymusbmaurer: press control-c to cancel the networking part09:00
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chrisx1look sudo: ./installer-en.sh: command not found09:00
bmaurera non-manual method...09:00
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eyequeuebmaurer:  ^C at the apprpriate time shorts the delays here09:01
Kelraithanyone know of a good chess game09:01
Vivaldiok09:01
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Vivaldiare there repositories like in Fedora Core to install packages?09:01
vinnuiKelraith: xboard09:01
NoUseKelraith check synaptic, theres a few in there09:01
Kelraithxboard?09:01
apokryphosKelraith: 3dchess will probably do the job09:01
NoUseVivaldi like apt-get?09:01
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Vivaldiyes09:01
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HappyFool!tell Vivaldi about repos09:01
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derfbmaurer: pull the 'auto' lines out of your /etc/network/interfaces, as well as the lines for your wired interface underneath 'mapping hotplug' in the same file09:02
Answerhaha that topic will only encourage more questions09:02
Vivaldithanks09:02
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xavier_What is the firewire i can instal on my ubuntu to link my other computer windows (sorry for this) onto my second eth card09:02
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HappyFoolfirewall ?09:02
chrisx1derf look sudo: ./installer-en.sh: command not found09:02
bmaurerderf, can you pastebin an example of that09:02
xavier_firewire09:02
xavier_sorry I begin09:02
apokryphosAnswer: what?09:02
Answerhehehe09:03
HappyFoolfirewire and ethernet are distinct things, afaik09:03
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derfchrisx1: try giving sudo the full path, or run "sudo su -"09:03
annexYou can network using firewire09:03
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annexvery fast from what I've heard09:03
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HappyFoolannex: plugging it into an ethernet card? ;)09:03
annexhaha no09:03
xavier_well, I just want to activate my second card for a sub lan and route 80 on my windows comput09:03
Madeyeguys I have directory with to many sub directories , and in each one there is mp3 files, I want to convert them all at once to ogg using mp32ogg, any useful command to do it all at once?09:03
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stperewouldn't it be better if they waited for the openoffice 2.0 release before releasing breezy?09:04
HappyFoolMadeye: i don't know mp32ogg, but something like     find -iname *.mp3 -exec mp32ogg '{}' ';'    *might* work09:04
DazeD||lapcan anyone help me partition in linux?09:04
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crimsunstpere: absolutely not.09:05
chrisx1derf, it dont work09:05
derfbmaurer: http://dividedsky.net/~derf/interfaces-serenity09:05
apokryphosstpere: release dates are a regular thing09:05
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fredforfaenafter i did a dist-upgrade to breezy i have blended norwegain and english language in gnome and apps....any ideas?09:05
pinucseti have firefox beta 2 but it doesnt opens my gmail website account? :S09:05
apokryphosstpere: they can't be altered for such programs09:05
crimsunstpere: we can't wait for the latest version of everything before releasing our latest version, you know.09:05
xavier_MAdeye What about a |09:05
eyequeuestpere:  release is timed after grome's, cant wait for everything :)09:05
tristanmikeDazeD||lap, what's your problem?09:05
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bmaurerderf, that's almost exactly what i have09:05
derfchrisx1: "sudo su -" will give you a root prompt.  then, cd into the directory that you have your installer file in and run it09:05
bmaurerexcept no ath009:05
fredforfaenhow can i make all of the OS to be in my native language....hoary was all norwegain and worked fine09:05
bmaurerbecause i let networkmanager take care of it at boot time09:05
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crimsunderf: please recommend sudo -s instead09:06
derfcrimsun: will do09:06
antgel_hi all. i'm deciding whether knoppix or ubuntu for my parents' machine.  from a live cd pov, they prefer knoppix due to kde.  however i understand that that will leave them with a debian unstable system - eek!  is it a plan to install ubuntu and then aptitude install kde?09:06
derfcrimsun: sorry09:06
DazeD||laptristanmike, im trying to partition part of my ext3 and take some of the free space and make it unallocated i have live disc and qtparted and everything just wont work09:06
crimsunderf: np09:06
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HappyFoolantgel_: heard of kubuntu ?09:06
bmaurerderf, i have http://omega.res.cmu.edu/~benm/interfaces09:06
raingroveantgel_: install kubuntu09:06
chrisx1Derf, rroot@ubuntu:/home/chris/Desktop/Xlack-2.1 # ./installer-en.sh09:07
chrisx1-su: ./installer-en.sh: Permission denied09:07
fredforfaenanyone?09:07
tristanmikeDazeD||lap, sorry, never used qtparted09:07
nightswimchmod 755 ?09:07
antgel_HappyFool, yep but don't have resources to burn cd here. is it not the same to aptitude install kde or kubuntu desktop?09:07
apokryphosantgel_: yes09:07
eyequeuechrisx1:  chmod +x it09:07
HappyFoolantgel_: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop , afaik09:07
apokryphosantgel_: just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop09:07
xavier_I do not know how to create a sub lan for my second eth card ... Any id ?09:07
DazeD||laptristanmike, do you use something else that might work better...i  just need soemthing that i can partition some of my ext3 while inside linux09:07
psykeguys, I'm running breezy and I need to access my ubuntu install via vnc. I setup the "Remote Desktop" to allow sharing and enabled passwords, but I can't connect to the server. Can someone help? Do I need to manually run the vnc server?09:07
HappyFoolchrisx1: try 'bash ./installer-en.sh'09:08
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antgel_apokryphos, HappyFool, fine. so no aptitude install dke (a la debian). thanks.09:08
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fredforfaencan anyone help me?09:08
tiaxhey09:08
apokryphosantgel_: eh?09:08
dougskoDazeD||lap: fdisk can partition from the terminal09:08
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chrisx1HappyFool, Ta That Worked09:08
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antgel_apokryphos, s/dke/kde09:08
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xavier_psyke > did you verify ports are closed from somewhere09:08
DazeD||lapdougsko, im going to need some help will you help me cuz i have never used fdisk09:08
apokryphosantgel_: oh, you can, but that will install a minimal amount of things09:08
derfbmaurer: pull out "map eth0"09:09
antgel_apokryphos, *nod*09:09
bmaurerok09:09
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apokryphosantgel_: installing kubuntu-desktop will bring in all the recommended kubuntu packs09:09
bmaurerwhat will that do?09:09
Pickle_WeaselDazeD||lap, ever used Partition Magic?09:09
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derfbmaurer: it'll make hotplug not auto-up the interface on boot09:09
DazeD||lapPickle_Weasel, yes i have ... can u get it for linux?09:09
dougskoDazeD||lap: i would like to but i actually have to go to class. im sure google can help09:09
bmaurerok09:09
Pickle_WeaselDazeD||lap, then get gparted, it's pretty much a clone09:09
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bmaurerwhy the fuck does ubuntu put that in by default09:09
DazeD||lapdougsko, ok thanks09:09
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Buddha|Could someone suggest a lightweight wysiwyg html editor?09:09
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antgel_apokryphos, is it then a case of changing /etc/alternatives/<something>?09:09
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DazeD||lapPickle_Weasel, so is qtparted but it wont let me resize my ext3 cuz its mounted09:09
psykexavier_: forgive me, it's been years since I ran linux, do I need to check iptables? I have a hardware (wireless) router but the ports are open (I setup a Windows machine to connect via vnc already on the network)09:09
apokryphosantgel_: for what?09:09
apokryphosantgel_: see /msg ubotu installing kde   ...for other methods.09:10
bmaurerderf, so, does your configuration do "first try to map eth0, if that doesn't work, do ath0"09:10
antgel_apokryphos, default desktop environment09:10
bmaurerbecause that's what I want :-)09:10
KelraithBuddha|: I use NVU works fine for me09:10
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apokryphosantgel_: oh, nah -- that's changed directly from gdm/kdm09:10
antgel_apokryphos, *nod*09:10
Pickle_WeaselDazeD||lap, i see, i had the same problem, i didn't know how to fix it, and didn't think it was worth it, so i just did it from windows =\09:10
xavier_psyke > be cool09:10
apokryphosantgel_: unless you're using startx... where you do use update-alternatives09:10
XamDManyone else uses nvidia-drivers in an x86_64 system ??, is there a way to disable iommu without recompiling the kernel ??09:10
derfbmaurer: my config brings up absolutely nothing on boot09:10
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DazeD||lapPickle_Weasel, see i only have linux and im trying to free up some space to install windows09:10
bmaureroh :-(09:11
derfbmaurer: I "ifup $interface" depending on where I'm plugge din09:11
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NoUseDazeD||lap boot froma livecd (knoppix or ubuntu live) and do it from there09:11
bmaureri'd like to bring up eth0 automatically if there is a link09:11
syli725eyequeue, hi, still there?09:11
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derfbmaurer: ah.  not sure how to do that09:11
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DazeD||lapNoUse, use fdisk??? cuz i cant insatll anything from livecd09:11
antgel_thanks. one more before i get cracking...  i must say that at first glance, knoppix looked better for them in terms of hand-holding, wizards etc. generally speaking, is this a _knoppix_ thing or a _kde_ thing?09:11
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derfbmaurer: try installing ifplug09:11
syli725how to add a new route? for  example i want to add this route: default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth009:11
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bmaurerok09:11
apokryphosantgel_: kde09:11
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apokryphosfor the most part at least, certainly.09:12
NoUseDazeD||lap knoppix has qtparted on it, so just run it from the CD and none of your drives should be mounted09:12
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antgel_apokryphos, ok.  thanks a bundle for your advice. no doubt back in a day or ten.09:12
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Spudchatallright that helped me fix the resolution09:12
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HappyFoolsyli725: read 'man route'09:12
syli725how to add a new route destination is defaut. gateway is 192.168.1.1 ? gnemask is 0.0.0.0 ?09:12
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MEtaLpREsis there any good howto's on setting up LAMP? the only one i could find was for warty and half of it was wrong09:12
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psykexavier_: I dunno if it allows loopback connections by default, but I tried vnc'ing from the same computer to localhost and even then the connection was refused, so perhaps the server isn't running?09:12
antgel_one more. i can see the /topic, so don't flame, but are we talking days or weeks for 5.10?09:12
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Spudchatbut the fonts still look goofy...any sdvice on that?09:12
DazeD||lapNoUse, ddamn i just spent an hour and ahalf downloading ubuntu livecd09:12
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syli725HappyFool, i did that. but not 100% understand.09:12
apokryphossyli725: no need to flood; if someone is able/willing to help, they will.09:12
NoUseDazeD||lap ubuntu live might have it too, I'm just not sure09:12
raingroveantgel_ the projected date is actually 13/10/200509:12
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Buddha|Kelraith - Too many toolbars, etc.  I wanat something I can use on a laptop with a 12" screen09:13
syli725HappyFool, i can do route add default gw ??09:13
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DazeD||lapNoUse, it doesnt09:13
larsrohdinbreezy is to be released the 13th right? but in what timezone?=)09:13
syli725apokryphos, sorry, but i don't think I flooded.09:13
raingrovemaybe South African09:13
raingrovehahaha09:13
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NoUseDazeD||lap cfdisk?09:13
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HappyFoolsyli725: sorry, i know dangerously little about routing09:13
Buddha|the 13th is tomorrow09:13
antgel_raingrove, how exciting. however, i have a 5.04 cd, so will use that then upgrade.  preferred way aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade?09:13
KelraithBuddaha|: Oh, um... screem? Emacs?09:13
NoUseDazeD||lap oh nevermind you need to resizr09:13
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raingroveantgel_ u have to modify the sources.list first09:13
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apokryphossyli725: sure, but you were getting there; same question in two minutes. Patience. :)09:14
raingroveantgel_ : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes09:14
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antgel_raingrove, *nod*, thought that was obvious.09:14
antgel_thanks again all, very helpful09:14
raingroveya09:14
raingrovewelcome09:14
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Buddha|Kelraith - Screem looks about the same as NVU, and I don't want to have to enter all the tags by hand...09:15
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khermans_will Breezy be released at midnight?09:15
xavier_psyke > maybe, you could have a conflict if you use same ports for two running servers09:15
apokryphosno09:15
khermans_we have a big LUG event tomorrow, hoping to hand out CDs09:15
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DazeD||lapNoUse, yeah i need to resize09:16
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DazeD||lapcan't i use fdisk09:16
dockanei would like to know, what gimp print uses to create the postscript file and if there is a way to copy the options gimp generates from setting09:16
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khermans_So what is the official release TIME of Ubuntu tomorrow?09:17
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dockanei would like to know, what gimp print uses to create the postscript file and if there is a way to copy the options gimp09:17
eyequeuekhermans:  you can hand out rc cds if you need to, and apt-get update;apt-get upgrade will bring them up to date09:17
occykhermans, heh09:17
crimsunkhermans_: "sometime on the 13th of october, 2005"09:17
khermans_are the devs feeling good about it, or are they rushing to fix last minute things?09:17
psykexavier_: nope, no vnc servers running09:17
crimsunhah, speaking of "october"X...09:17
occycrimsun, :P09:17
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eyequeuekhermans:  there's updates every few hours now :)09:18
khermans_i mean, is the breezy release essentially ready, or is it broken-being fixed09:18
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apokryphoskhermans_: finishing touches09:18
khermans_eyequeue, ok cool09:18
HappyFoolhow long does it take to build the iso image?09:19
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khermans_apokryphos, only cosmetic?09:19
crimsunkhermans_: we're all tied to our chairs eating pizza and drinking coffee in an effort to maliciously slide Windows(tm) via those dist-upgrades.09:19
eyequeuekhermans:  there's always last-minute fixes, but unless something bad happens soon, expect it to be on schedule09:19
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apokryphoskhermans_: yes; build-testing etc09:19
khermans_HappyFool, probably howeevr long mkisofs takes, lol09:19
FionnI just installed a box with ubuntu / xorg / DRI but now when I start any openGL application it immediately crashes with "illegal instruction". Any ideas?09:19
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da_bon_bonits 13th here !09:19
da_bon_bon:D09:19
da_bon_bonhow many hours from breezy ?09:20
eyequeuekhermans:  some critical breakage, ubuntu has shown it's not afreaid to delay release if it has to (hoary was a week late) ... all is well so far :)09:20
basvgcan anyone help me get cpufreq to work..? I've read a shitload of documents on this topic and I just can't seem to get it to work09:20
eyequeueda_bon_bon:  < 24 then, if you're utc :P09:20
khermans_apokryphos, crimsun, is the official ISO already built -- but in final testing?09:20
da_bon_bonhehe09:20
da_bon_boneyequeue: IST09:20
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da_bon_bonhow do they "test" the iso ?09:21
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apokryphoskhermans_: it's being built/rebuilt09:21
da_bon_bonthey cant install it on many machines, can they ?09:21
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apokryphosda_bon_bon: download, install/run, see if everything's working 8)09:21
eyequeuethe iso is just a snapshot of the current state, isn't it?09:21
apokryphosda_bon_bon: why not?09:21
da_bon_bonapokryphos: so an "elite" batch gets the final iso some time before ?09:21
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crimsunda_bon_bon: we've all been testing the iso09:21
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xavier_psyke > man, i canno find other things from my level09:22
kbrooksi have a huge problem coming on here09:22
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kbrooksa BIG one09:22
khermans_our LUG event is in the morning, so i think I am going to make RC discs hrmmm09:22
oris_wolfbanehow cna i change the location bar in brezzy back to how it was before?09:22
crimsunkhermans_: I'd hold off about 12 hours09:22
da_bon_boncrimsun: we as in the devel time ?09:22
da_bon_bon*team09:22
fredforfaenDoes anybody know how to change the laguage in breezy..gnome apps , cli ...all?..cant seem to find any info on it09:23
fredforfaenlanguage*09:23
da_bon_bonfredforfaen: there is a language selector09:23
eyequeuekhermans:  tell anyone that gets one to "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" after installing, if so, and thy'll have official breezy, by then09:23
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fredforfaenda_bon_bon where?09:24
kbrookseyequeue: No.09:24
da_bon_bonfredforfaen: iirc, system menu09:24
Skidoohi. i haven't been able to boot ubuntu since i last ran an update (a couple of weeks ago). anyone have any idea how to fix?09:24
da_bon_boncya ..09:24
eyequeueFred:  System > Administration > Language Selector09:24
da_bon_bonwill check in later on breezy :_)09:24
NoUseSkidoo we'll need much more detail09:24
fredforfaenda_bon_bon im talking about changing the system default language not in iirc09:24
eyequeuekbrooks:  no to what?09:24
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SkidooNoUse: that's ok. what detail do you need?09:25
HappyFoolfredforfaen: iirc = if i recall correctly ;)09:25
fredforfaenHappyFool lol09:25
NoUseSkidoo error messages? what did you update?09:25
kbrookseyequeue: think about it. would you suggest cli commands to a LUG of inexperienced people (in general)?09:25
ichiCan anyone help I'm trying to get rox to boot when i boot the box. I've a script in /etc/init.d then I ran sudo update-rc.d rox start 99 2 3 4 5 . stop 99 0 1 6. And if I run the script manualy it runs fine ?09:25
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basvghmm, `modprobe acpi-cpufreq` gives an `error inserting acpi_cpufreq, no such device`... which seems strange. `cat /proc/cpuinfo` shows that I have a GenuineIntel Pentium 4 in my laptop and the flags state that acpi is there (true, a lot of acpi stuff seems to work)09:25
fredforfaeneyequeue have no such thing in that menu09:25
basvgcan anyone make more sense of this for me?09:25
AnswerSometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?09:26
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eyequeuekbrooks:  hmm, a linux user group ... yes, sure, i tell non-linux-users cli commands, so i'd think a linux group could handle a keyboard and a specific command09:26
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DazeD||lapcan anyone help me partition from ubuntu?09:26
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SkidooNoUse: well, it looks like a kernel problem - the system hangs right after the kernel image decompresses09:26
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eyequeuefredforfaen:  i'm on breezy here, might that be the difference?09:26
NoUseSkidoo have you tried booting the older kernel?09:27
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Greg_WahEclipse won't install on breezy with apt09:27
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fredforfaeneyequeue im on breezy to09:27
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eyequeuekbrooks:  there's always synaptic if they can't though09:27
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SkidooNoUse: didn't see an option for that in Grub menu. i did try the "recovery mode" but that didn't work09:27
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AnswerSometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?09:27
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NoUseSkidoo if you upgraded he kernel, Ubuntu should have kept the previous kernel version in the grub menu09:28
raetsel99Evening everyone, I've just installed hoary for powerPC on my emac and the sound is very quiet and has really rapid "decay"  any suggestions?09:28
eyequeuefredforfaen:  gnome not kubuntu?  you should have that in the Administration menu i'd think then09:28
rob_pichi:  Did update-rc.d successfully create the sym links in /etc/rc2.d, /etc/rc3.d, /etc/rc4.d, and /etc/rc5.d?09:28
fredforfaeneyequeue gnome09:28
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fredforfaeneyequeue i dont belive me09:28
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SkidooNoUse: ok. i'll go check for it again (must admit i didn't look too hard last time :)09:28
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raingrovedo you guys prefer Koffice or Openoffice? under KDe09:29
jrattner1I'm a college student with a checking account, im looking for software that will allow me to manage that account, not to actually let me withdrawl or deposit, but to allow me to balance it.. any suggestions09:29
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ichiYea the links were created ok09:29
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raetsel99jrattner1 your could take a look at GNUCash but that might be abit of overkill09:29
mweraingrove: Openoffice is much better IMHO09:29
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eyequeuefredforfaen:  odd.  ironically, i just spent the past week or two with someone born in norway :)  but she's a native-english-cpeaker for decades, os it wasn't a factor for her09:29
jrattner1raetsel99, im looking for something a little simpler09:30
Greg_WahThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:30
Greg_Wah  eclipse-sdk: Depends: eclipse-jdt (= 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed09:30
Greg_Wah               Depends: eclipse-pde (= 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed09:30
Greg_WahE: Broken packages09:30
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AnswerSometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?09:30
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telonirwhere can i download the "all" codecs package for mplayer? their site seems to be down...09:30
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raingrovemwe:is there anyway i can make openoffice use my global kde font anti-aliasing?09:30
khermans_Answer, do you have both a wired/wireless device?09:30
raetsel99jrattner1 have  you thought of seting up a spreadsheet template?09:30
fredforfaeneyequeue hehe , well its not a problem for me , but i want to learn how to change the system language....systemwide!09:30
rob_pichi:  And you tried the startup script (/etc/init.d/rox) from the command line and it works?09:30
tristanmikeGreg_Wah, please don't paste in here, see /topic :)09:30
eyequeuebtw, is the thunderbird upgrade "sticking" for anyone else in breezy?09:31
Answerkhermans_: yes, two wired and one wireless device.  the route in question is for eth2 and I think it's wired09:31
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jrattner1raetsel99, yeh, but im looking for something more fun :  )09:31
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khermans_Answer, make sure you disable the other devices if you are not using them, and then set a static route for the device you want09:31
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ichiNot from the shell but from the file manager09:31
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eyequeuefredforfaen:  i think those "must enter a sudo password" options in Administration are basically all system-wide changes, not per-user changes09:31
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fredforfaeneyequeue but why havent i got that menu item.....i just upgraded to breezy09:32
Answerkhermans_: The other devices are in use, and there is a static route set.  But sometimes it stops working for no reason.  Then after I del and add it, it works again immediately.09:32
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khermans_weird09:32
ichiclicking on the script in /etc/init.d/ and it runs09:32
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raetsel99some suggestions here jrattner1 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11811.html09:32
jrattner1i cant wait for breezy09:32
jrattner1thanx raetsel9909:33
El_Chejrattner1: upgrade now09:33
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El_Cheit can be that different from tomorrow09:33
El_Che:)09:33
basscrwhat multimedia codecs do i need to be able to play mp3 files ??09:33
mweraingrove: what do you mean? Just choose the font you want for your document09:33
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apokryphos!mp309:33
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:33
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ichirob_p. clicking on the script in /etc/init.d/ and it runs09:34
Answerkhermans_: yeah it is weird.  it would make more sense if it somehow disappeared from the route table, but it's still in there (which is why I have to del then add).  i'm thinking maybe ifconfig changes the device and it doesn't reload the routes?09:34
Buddha|I have two computers that share a DSL connection via a D-Link router.  I recently installed Linux on my iBook, and now I can't FTP between the two computers.  Could someone help me with this?09:34
raingrovemwe: the user interface of Openoffice is using wrong type of anti-aliasing which is very ugly09:34
tomekxhallo  -- apache unter ubuntu -- wo schmeiss ich die cgi's hin?09:34
rob_pichi:  Ok.  Sounds like the startup script works.  However, try, "sudo /etc/init.d/rox start" and see if it runs from the command line.  If it does, then you will probably need to review you system logs to see why it is having trouble on startup.09:34
raetsel99basscr that is an FAQ : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.346970338709:34
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AnswerBuddha|: which computer has the ftp server running?09:34
raetsel99!de09:34
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe09:34
basscrwhat multimedia codecs do i need to be able to play mp3 files ??09:34
mweraingrove: oh. I think you need to run gtk-theme-switch209:35
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Answer!tell basscr about restrictedformats09:35
raetsel99read what people have posted basscr09:35
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eyequeuemozilla-thunderbird depends on libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel-4)09:35
eyequeue mozilla-thunderbird depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9)09:35
eyequeue mozilla-thunderbird depends on libxrender1 (>> 0.9.0-1)09:35
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eyequeuehmm, that aws one line here, sorry09:35
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tomekxhello -- apache under ubuntu -- where i can put my cgi's ??09:35
ichirob_p. thanks for that is there a special syntax for a start up script ? or is a bash script good enough ?09:35
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raingrovemwe/ but it's fine on other gtk apps like firefox and gimp09:36
raetsel99anyone able to help me with my sound card problem on PowerPC hoary on an emac?09:36
eyequeuestill, anyone know how to force that to go through safely?  without an actual dpkg --ofrce of course09:36
rob_pichi:  Did you write the startup script?  If so, did you follow conventions (such as start, stop arguments)?09:36
AnswerSometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?09:36
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tomekxhello -- apache under ubuntu -- where i can put my cgi's ??09:36
Buddha|Answer - um, neither one09:36
raetsel99Answer, what changes do you make under ifconfig?09:36
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BicchiI am subscribed to the ubuntu mailing list and does anyone knows if they plan on sending an email right away after breezy is released. I would like to download it right away. Its my first time. :)09:37
Buddha|I wasn't using one before, though, either09:37
Answerraetsel99, I dunno i'm just guessing.  why would it stop working09:37
rob_pichi:  Here's a how-to for creating startup scripts:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/13/28/09:37
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eyequeuetomekx:  /usr/lib/cgi-bin?09:37
raetsel99when it stops routing can you still ping it?09:37
ichirob_p. I used start) script ;; stop) ;; script is the name of the script09:37
EPOX123Hi everyone, does any one know how to get totem to work under x86_64?09:37
mweraingrove: Well I'm pretty sure my OO.org is using my gtk2 font09:37
!lilo:*! Modified http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#usernames to point to http://partiallystapled.com/wiki/index.php/HyperionNOIDPREFIXPurpose for a more policy-oriented treatment of NOIDPREFIX, which will be used to implement noticeable changes in the way IRC nicknames are reserved on freenode. Recommended reading.09:37
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carlok I am going crazy, how do I get my SoundMaz  soundcard to work with ubuntu I have tried installing the drivers I can find, can anyone help!!!!09:37
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Answerraetsel99, I can get to it from another computer in that network, but not directly09:37
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raetsel99Answer, is this wired or wireless?09:38
rob_pichi:  Check out the how-to and see if it answers your questions.  Post back here if you have further questions.09:38
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Answerraetsel99, it is wired eth2, but there is wireless eth1, and wired eth0 as well...09:38
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ichirob_p. great help thanks, i will09:38
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raetsel99Answer, gees are you running an ISP :o)09:39
EPOX123:( hello some one check my question please :)09:39
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mweraingrove: to change the interface font for firefox I had to fiddle with userChrome.css. I don't know about gimp09:39
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basscroh!, so i cant play mp3 files on ubuntu!!!09:39
EPOX123i cant play any thing in totem ubuntu09:39
raetsel99yes you can basscr you just need to install the relevant options....09:39
EPOX123:(09:39
Orbordebasscr: Yes, you can.09:39
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crimsunbasscr: install totem-xine or install gstreamer0.8-mad or xmms09:40
Answerraetsel99, the route in question is   default  gateway for eth2.  when it stops working it is still in route, then when I del and add it, it works immediately.  this is happening repeatedly09:40
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Madpilot!tell basscr about mp309:40
basvghmm, guess I'd better post on the ML09:40
Orborde!tell Orborde about mp309:40
raetsel99basscr you need to make sure you have added additional repositories to apt sources.list ( or via synaptic )09:40
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EPOX123how can i play asx wmd09:40
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EPOX123wma09:40
lonkihi guys/girls, just a quick question, would ubuntu be a good distro for a 15 year old son?09:41
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raetsel99Answer, hmm I've never come across that before09:41
SkidooNoUse: back again! this is all i found in the GRUB menu:09:41
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SkidooUbuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-38609:41
SkidooUbuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 (recovery mode)09:41
SkidooUbuntu, kernel memtest86+09:41
basscrcrimsun: apt-get totem-xine ?09:41
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dave___hello, how to make karamba start with the KDE?09:41
EPOX123lonki yes but you just have to set it up lol09:41
Skidoono other options09:41
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raetsel99hi Lonki, what sort of hardware will your son be using it on? just a regular PC?09:41
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lonkiEPOX123, that wouldn't be a prob09:41
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Answerraetsel99, me neither.  from the route man page it says that route is setup after ifconfig, so I thought maybe we are changing something with ifconfig and need to refresh the route?09:41
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lonkiraetsel99, thinkpad R3009:41
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david__hola09:42
Madpilotlonki: that's a laptop?09:42
david__yes09:42
jbroomeyes09:42
Buddha|Does Ubuntu have a firewall setup by default?  If so, what is it, and how can I turn it off?09:42
raetsel99hmm - laptops can be a little bit tricker under Linux, but Ubuntu is one of the best for laptop support09:42
syli725hi, anyone can help me with ifconfig. i want to change eth0 broadcast to 255.255.255.255.09:42
lonkiMadpilot yes09:42
crimsunbasscr: aptitude install totem-xine09:42
OrbordeBuddha|: No.09:42
LyssieI got a laptop issue right here... heh09:42
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chrisx1+609:42
Madpilotlonki: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops09:42
lonkiwell, it is currently running slackware so it shouldn't be a problem09:42
raetsel99Answer,  does it just happen the once on boot and then stay up ok?09:42
lonkiMadpilot, thanks09:43
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raetsel99Well Lonki Ubuntu is a great distribution and has this wonderful channel to help people :o)09:43
Madpilotlonki: here too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam09:43
lonkiraetsel99 :-)09:43
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Skidooanyone know how to boot from a previous kernel if it's not in your Grub menu?09:43
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Answerraetsel99, no it seems to be unrelated to booting.  the machine stays up and this happens multiple times.09:43
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OrbordeOkay, I'm having major issues with video playback. As in, trying to play any video in Totem -> GDM/X/Something in that vicinity crashes. I double-click the movie file, and *poof* I'm looking at a terminal, for the few seconds until X restarts and brings up Mr. Login Screen.09:43
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Madpilotlonki: there's been a big push w/ Breezy to make Ubuntu into the most laptop-friendly distro going - and it seems to be working09:44
lonkihmm, sleep/suspend isn't a problem with the right kernel09:44
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raingroveDoes anyone know how to fix ugly anti-aliasing in interface fonts for openoffice?09:44
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raetsel99lonki - if your son is into his MP3 etc. then Ubuntu does need a little extra config as MP3 is not there "out of the box" but the set up is easy09:44
carlis there anyway to have ubuntu autodetect my sound card it is a SoundMax on a Compaq09:44
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lonkiraetsel99, yes, I just read, no prob09:44
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OrbordeSo what do I need to do to get enough info together to put in a good bug report?09:45
raetsel99lonki why not try the Live CD version then you can see how it goes without actually affecting the hard disk?09:45
hajikiis there no python2.4-dev ?09:45
LyssieAnybody able to give me a little help?09:45
raetsel99what with Lyssie09:45
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Madpilotlater, all... this having to work thing sucks... ;)09:45
Skidooproblem: can't boot. symptoms: system hangs after kernel decompresses. unable to load previous kernel. any ideas gratefully appreciated09:45
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raetsel99bbye Madpilot09:45
lonkiraetsel99, well, I will just try it for him, will be running a mini-mac myself after this weekend, he will get this laptop, I don't want to give him slackware09:46
EPOX123Hi everyone, does any one know how to get totem to work under x86_64? :(09:46
SkidooLyssie: what's up09:46
rob_pAnswer:  Do you have a gateway specified for more than one active interface?  If so, you need to remove it from all interfaces except the one closest to (connected to) the Internet.  You do need a default gateway, but only one.09:46
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DrakesonI have a problem activating mediawiki. I apt-get installed it, and now I get some some stuff in /usr/share/mediawiki, /var/lib/mediawiki   .it needs a php page of its own to configure itself. what is this address?09:46
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EPOX123I cant play play asx files mm:// even with codecs09:47
OrbordeSkidoo: Randomly, I might suggest using a Live CD to get in, chrooting to your root directory, and recompiling the kernel, but this is a little out of my depth.09:47
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lonkiraetsel99, is it due to the patents that there is no default mp3 support?09:47
rob_pAnswer:  Look in your /etc/network/interfaces file and see if more than one active interface has a gateway listed.09:47
Orbordelonki: Yep.09:47
lonkik09:47
raetsel99yep Ubuntu likes free as in freedom formats09:48
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lonkiis ogg supported?09:48
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eyequeueSkidoo:  or what Orborde said, but adding the old kernel to /boot/grub/menu.lst and running update-grub09:48
SkidooOrborde: i'd rather not have to recompile. if the old kernel image is still there i may be able to configure Grub to load it, but i'm not a grub expert09:48
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Orbordelonki: Yes. Though I don't know if it's "out of the box". Mind you, MP3 support can be had pretty easily using apt...09:48
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lonkiok, that must be easy yes09:49
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OrbordeSkidoo: What happened that caused this?09:49
lonkib.t.w. is there an active Dutch channel too?09:49
eyequeueSkidoo:  /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file you'll want, but you'd want to chroot to the normal / before running update-grub09:49
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raetsel99why don't you want to give your son slackware, lonki. Just being nosey09:49
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OrbordeSkidoo: As in, what was the last thing you did? Put a bullet through your hard drive :) ?09:50
lonkiraetsel99, since I only want to login and update it from elsewhere09:50
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lonkiit could be done with slackware but it is a bit more of a hassle09:50
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SkidooOrborde: i seem to recall running an ubuntu update :)09:50
djpcan anyone tell me if there is a log file created when icons are generated in the .thumbnails folder?09:50
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OrbordeSkidoo: Ouch.09:50
SkidooOrborde: quite09:50
lonkiraetsel99, and I want to give hime a gnome desktop09:50
Answerrob_p, there is only one default gateway specified09:50
raetsel99well the synaptic / apt-get is a nice system09:51
OrbordeSkidoo: Did you say that you couldn't get to your old kernel image? Is it accessible via grub?09:51
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lonkiyes, I know synaptic, and I know apt-rpm09:51
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rob_pAnswer:  Ok.  Well, I've seen that be the cause of similar problems so I thought I'd mention it to you.  Good luck with it.09:51
DazeD||lapcan anyone help me partitioning?09:51
SkidooOrborde: it's not in the grub menu09:51
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OrbordeSkidoo: Ah. Okay, yeah, use a Live CD on it.09:51
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Answerrob_p, have you ever heard of a way to refresh the route table?09:52
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Skidoohmm. quick question. is recovery mode the same as single user mode?09:52
SkidooOrborde: ok. then what?09:52
OrbordeSkidoo: Mount in the system's partition, chroot to it, and run update-grub09:52
lonkiis there a list of software which can be installed somewhere on the site b.t.w.?09:52
SkidooOrborde: will that not just make it the same as it is now?09:52
rob_pAnswer:  Well, you can use the route command to (re)establish routes.09:52
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r0dwhat tool can I use to see my computers temps09:52
raetsel99lonki  - there are about 16000 packages available under debian apt get :o)09:52
mweSkidoo: recovery mode is the same as single user mode, yes09:53
JuerdWhy oh why does apt-get dist-upgrade ask many questions twice?09:53
OrbordeSkidoo: As someone said, if the kernel image itself is still hiding there, update-grub should find it. So try that first.09:53
hajikiis there a python-dev package anywhere?09:53
cribbonHey all, I recompiled my kernel and forgot to get filesystem in it. Can anyone help me ? ( priv )09:53
Answerrob_p, just running route does not fix the problem... but the default gateway is still in there.  it doesn't work until I del and add it again09:53
lonkiraetsel99, maybe a rough list? :-)09:53
JuerdIs it really needed to have lilo install the kernel twice, for example?09:53
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toniferoayuda en espaol por favor09:53
lonkiAnswer route add, route del, a info/man file should give you some details09:53
SkidooOrborde: ok! i'll give it a shot. thanks!09:53
hajiki!tell hajiki about python-dev09:53
rob_pAnswer:  How long has it been doing this?09:53
Nomad_Has anyone ever run into problems using Ubuntu to serve Samba to a Mac enviroment?09:54
Answerrob_p: just today... maybe last night too09:54
rob_pAnswer:  ...or has it always done it?09:54
rob_pAnswer:  Ok.  Have you installed any new interfaces, software, etc. lately?09:54
Answerrob_p, just the last two days, and maybe one isolated time a long time ago09:54
Answerrob_p, no these machines are static and they aren't even allowed out on the networks so the hardware and software could not be changing09:54
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rob_pAnswer:  Very strange indeed!09:55
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HappyFoolhajiki: try python2.4-dev09:55
Answerrob_p, any idea what would make the route be ignored?  or what route del and route add do behind the scenes?09:56
hajikiHappyFool, I did09:56
OrbordeWhat sort of dance should I go through to file a bug report? Any links you can point me to?09:56
Fionncould it be that a PentiumII is too OLD for ubuntu?09:56
HappyFoolhajiki: no luck?09:56
hajikiHappyFool, none09:56
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HappyFoolhajiki: you've enabled network repositories ?09:56
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sockpuppe1hello all09:56
linadhi09:56
OrbordeFionn: It doesn't seem likely. Why do you ask?09:57
Fionnall openGL apps on my new breezy system crash with "illegal instruction". Probably some openGL libs have been compiled for MMX extensions or so.09:57
AnswerFionn, it wouldn't be too old, but it might run really slowly...09:57
sp00nheadHello everyone.09:57
triedim new on to linux and want to know how do i install programs such as tar.gz etc or package??09:57
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rob_pAnswer:  List the routing table and copy it to a file when things are working.  Then, when things stop working, list the routing table again and see if they match.09:57
ZupZupperHello09:57
hajikiHappyFool, I though I had... Just did an apt-get update again and it found it. Thanks09:57
Answerrob_p, yes they match exactly09:57
eyequeuetried:  apt-get install foo09:57
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sp00nheadubuntu  has been running really nice on my sony vaio09:57
sockpuppe1I have a compaq fs740 monitor with a microphone built in and im wondering if that'll work with skype09:57
sp00nheadbreezy is really nice09:57
triedwats foo09:57
HappyFooltried: answer is to first check if the application is available in synaptic (system -> admin -> synaptic)09:57
Answerrob_p, I also looked thru the history and nobody was running any funny commands09:57
sockpuppe1anyone know?09:57
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OrbordeFionn: You might be better off with something lighter-weight than Ubuntu.09:58
JuerdWhy does apt-get dist-upgrade ask the same questions twice?09:58
eyequeuetried:  a metasyntactic variable09:58
eyequeue!foo09:58
ubotueyequeue: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:58
rob_pAnswer:  brb09:58
triedoh k09:58
sockpuppe1crack:09:58
sockpuppe1sh: crack: command not found09:58
raetsel99time for a snack. bbl09:58
cribbonHey all, I recompiled my kernel and forgot to get filesystem in it. I'm on the live cd now. Can anyone help me ? ( priv )09:58
Answersockpuppe1, you're better off searching the wiki for specific hardware questions like that, unless by chance someone here has it.09:58
OrbordeJuerd: File a bug report.09:58
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kbrookscribbon: no privmsgs09:58
cribbonok, without priv then =)09:58
sockpuppe1answer the reason i put that there was jus in case09:59
JuerdOrborde: So it is a bug? Thank you.09:59
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Orbordecribbon: Mount in your root partition.09:59
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cribbonaye, /xxx/xxx ?09:59
OrbordeJuerd: I don't know, but it seems pretty minor, and it's nothing I'd have any clue how to fix.09:59
lonkisuppose you could mount the hda rw cribbon, and then install the old kernel in grub/lilo09:59
Answersockpuppe1, you could also post that to the wiki as a request and the anyone else who searches might comment09:59
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Orbordecribbon: Wherever.09:59
sockpuppe1but answer, if the microphone picks up the sound iin theory it should work with skyp yes?09:59
cribbonyeah, but i mean, what adress does my usual hdd have ?09:59
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Answersockpuppe1, if the microphone works, and it is compatible hardware, and it is configured correctly with the os, and skype is configured correctly to use it, then in theory it will work yes10:00
Orbordecribbon: Type fdisk -l and it will give you a list of partitions on the system.10:00
lonkicribbon, does the live cd let you run fdisk?10:00
sockpuppe1cool10:00
HappyFoolsudo fdisk -l10:00
Answerrob_p, brb...10:00
FionnOrborde: apart from that openGL problem, ubuntu runs perfect on that PII box.10:01
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Orbordecribbon: That should give you the device for mount.10:01
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cribbonid did, ty =)10:01
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OrbordeFionn: Maybe you could try recompiling one of the problem programs from source...?10:01
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rodietzehey I have a question: I have an Agere/Lucent 56k modem, what or how can I do for it to work???10:01
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nrbqcan anyone help with a broken package issue?10:02
lonkihmm, the iso is downloaded, is there a way to do a netinstall?10:02
nrbqI'm really stuck10:02
sockpuppe1another question, it it ok to upgrade to breezy10:02
Orbordecribbon: Okay, now type: sudo chroot /your/mounted/file/system/10:02
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kevogodAnyone read this? http://p2pnet.net/story/656410:02
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kbrookssockpuppe1: yes its ok, it "just Works(tm)" for me10:02
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Orbordesockpuppe1: Yes, it no longer has a tendency to kill everything.10:02
nrbqCould my broken package problem have anyting to do with ndiswrapper?10:03
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rob_pAnswer:  Sry abt that... I had a phone call!  Anyway, aside from closely examining your system logs for clues, I don't have any further suggestions for you.10:03
sockpuppe1kevogod thats ridiculous10:03
Drakeson!tell me about mediawiki10:03
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kevogodsockpuppe1, Yes, it is10:03
Drakeson!tell me about wiki10:03
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kevogodsockpuppe1, It's sickening, really10:03
sockpuppe1microsoft's at it again10:03
kvidell!seen seveas10:04
ubotuseveas <n=seveas@re-uva-14.wireless.uva.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 5h 41m 8s ago, saying: 'try /whois Seveas'.10:04
nrbqI've just setup ndiswrapper to use a NETgear WG511v2 wireless card10:04
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nrbqWorks great (obviously)10:04
sockpuppe1did you hear about the *iaa suing a little girl and her mom10:04
sockpuppe1?10:04
sockpuppe1they couldnt get hte mom10:04
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raingroveDoes anyone know how to fix ugly anti-aliasing in interface fonts for openoffice?10:04
nrbqBut just as before, I can't install amule or a lot of other packages because it says I have "broken packages"10:04
sockpuppe1so they sued the little girl10:04
nrbqHow is that possible?10:04
nrbqThis is a clean install10:05
kevogodsockpuppe1, Yea, well that's not really related to Ubuntu10:05
gelberghi all, am installing kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu. in addition to usual gnome packages, what meta-packages do i need to remove to ensure gnome isn't reinstalled when we upgrade to breezy?10:05
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kevogodsockpuppe1, Although it is a good precedent nonetheless10:05
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darsoAnyone knows how to install Gimp-Print safely?10:05
apokryphosgelberg: if you don't have gnome/ubuntud-esktop, you won't get any gnome packs on an upgrade to breezy10:05
eyequeuegelberg:  ubuntu-desktop10:05
sockpuppe1kevogod...lol..but a good question is...10:05
pinucsetmaybe it could be interesting if you start downloading breezy or upgrading. Or tomorrow the servers will be down :)10:05
lonkihmm, let's browse the loop mounted ubuntu cd :-)10:05
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sockpuppe1i know that the forum says that breezy's not out yet10:06
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gelbergthanks10:06
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sockpuppe1but its ok to upgrade nonetheless10:06
sockpuppe1?10:06
darsoGimp-Print, anyone?10:06
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Orbordenrbq: You might try sudo apt-get check , but I'm no expert.10:06
eyequeuesockpuppe1:  sure, most of us do many times per day10:06
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esacam i able to reinstall grub from the breezy install cd ?10:07
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El_Chesockpuppe1: i'm runny breezy from the day before yesterday. Works great10:07
sockpuppe1just making sure10:07
nrbqOrborde, thanks, I'll try that now10:07
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sockpuppe1by the way el_che great s/n10:07
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gelbergwhen just installed hoary, the package manager flashed up in the top right, that there are security updates available for download. will there be similar functionality when using kde?10:07
lonkihmm, nice, some 1400+ packages10:08
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Thirstehxorg killed my monitor :(10:08
nrbqOrborde, it's still the same problem10:08
Orbordenrbq: What happened when you did sudo apt-get check ?10:08
Orbordenrbq: Hmm...that may not be the right thing.10:09
nrbqOrborde, it said "Reading package lists... Done10:09
nrbq"10:09
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sockpuppe1trying the breezy upgrade now10:09
nrbqThen building dependency tree.....done10:09
nrbqThis is like the 3rd install I've done on this laptop and the same problem comes up10:10
nrbqI can only think it has to do with setting up ndiswrapper10:10
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Orbordenrbq: Try reinstalling the packages it's complaining about with: sudo apt-get install --reinstall blahblahblah10:10
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Orbordenrbq: That would seem to be the case.10:10
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nrbqOrborde, I'll try that now10:10
FionnOrborde: the problem is in package libgl1-mesa-dri10:11
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StRHi all!10:11
OrbordeFionn: How so? What did you do?10:11
FionnOrborde: the mga dri lib seems to issue MMX instructions10:11
StRis there a way to have with php4 and php5  ?10:11
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FionnOrborde: i backtraced the crashes with gdb10:11
OrbordeFionn: Have I mentioned that I'm no expert at this?10:12
nrbqOrborde, that didn't work either10:12
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sockpuppe1you know what? I never give you guys enough credit10:12
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nrbqIt said, "Package libglib1.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package."10:12
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sockpuppe1this has got to be the best irc support channel ever10:12
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Orbordenrbq: Did you try plain old libglib?10:13
nrbqOn my way10:13
esacanybody know if i can boot off a non-live cd such as ubuntus install cd, and boot into my system. and if so what do i pass to the install command line ?10:13
nrbqnope, nothing for libglib10:13
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Dalkusif i have a vfat partition, what do I need to add to fstab to make it writable by any user? it is set to "defaults" atm10:14
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djpcan anyone tell me if there is a log file created when icons are generated in the .thumbnails folder?10:14
Orbordenrbq: That's odd. I'm able to get libglib1.2 with no problem.10:14
jrattner1are there any files worth backing up before doing a fresh install10:14
nrbqdoing an apt-cache search libglib give a v2.0.010:14
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Orbordejrattner1: Your Firefox profile, maybe.10:14
lonkiDalkus, rw,dev=/.....,fs=.....10:15
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nrbqOne sec - that little red icon that announces updates has just come up10:15
nrbqshould I go for that and see if that fixes it?10:15
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lonkiDalkus, something like: rw,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat10:15
jrattner1Orborde, can i later load the profile?10:15
Orbordenrbq: Give it a whirl.10:15
bam_breezy release out yet?10:15
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nrbqyeah, it's not like I have a lot to lose10:16
Orbordejrattner1: Yeah; you just need to grab the whole .mozilla directory out of your /home and pop it into your new home.10:16
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occyjeet yet, yawnto aiit10:16
janemannDalkus: and ... /dev/cdrom  /cd  iso9660  ro,user,noauto,unhide ... e.g. for normal users...10:16
ariz0rshello10:16
jrattner1Orborde, sounds good10:16
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nrbqthe thing is, I installed ubuntu on an HP vt6200 earlier in the week and it had no problems10:16
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nrbqwhatsoever10:16
coolkevI get a very very critical problem10:16
coolkevand need help imidiately10:16
nrbqnow I'm putting it on my own laptop and it's just being a pain10:17
ariz0rsi have to install the rest of windoes today10:17
Orbordenrbq: Yeah, it can be like that.10:17
ariz0rsso i can actually do stuff10:17
ariz0rslol10:17
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mpmcGaim loads then just exits after I sign in!10:17
coolkevmy ubuntu won't even load10:17
Orbordenrbq: What model, if I might ask?10:17
bam_coolkev, reinstall10:17
ariz0rsi just loaded linux onto my vaio10:17
eracerbitanybody use ati card on 686-smp machine10:17
nrbqit's a Compaq nx900510:17
coolkevit says Fatal Error no font path found10:17
Orbordecoolkev: What was the last thing you did?10:17
coolkevi can't re-install10:17
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ariz0rshave u updated10:17
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coolkevi updated to breezy10:18
coolkevtoday10:18
occycoolkev, heh10:18
chankhey poeple10:18
Orbordecoolkev: ouch10:18
occycoolkev, how did you upgrade?10:18
bam_its in full release10:18
bam_not testing10:18
coolkevsynatic10:18
coolkevchange the repos10:18
Dekkardive heard this here before..but i ve installed hoary..and now my system wont boot form cd.. any ideas?10:18
Prowerbam_: The actual release is on the repositories now?10:18
coolkevyes10:18
occycoolkev, guess you didn't check this page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:18
bam_dunno10:18
Orbordenrbq: libglib1.2 seems to be in breezy/main ....10:18
bam_is it10:18
occycoolkev, :(10:18
eracerbituhh read the title of this channel ppl10:19
nrbqOrborde, I'm very new - not sure what that means10:19
coolkevbut how do select a font path10:19
coolkevi can get into console10:19
occycoolkev, always check the topic here on the channel before doing an upgrade10:19
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bam_nope not released yet10:19
Orbordenrbq: Well, let me track down the thing...10:19
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bam_bummer10:19
bam_oh well whats the advatage over hoary?10:19
nrbqOrborde, much appreciated10:19
raetsel99_hi can anyone help me with a sound card issue under hoary PowerPC on my eMac please?10:20
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=== eracerbit dist-upgrades anyway =p
coolkevi can get into the console10:20
Sikavicampmc: my gaim crashes after conecting to google talk, if you have simular problem use gajim instead10:20
coolkevanyway i can do soemthing there10:20
coolkevto fix the problem10:20
bam_work time...bummer10:20
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eracerbitati's proprietary driver bit me10:20
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nrbqOrborde, shall I go ahead with the 96 updates?10:21
El_Cheyep10:21
rob_pcoolkev:  Font paths are listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Make sure that they point to the correct location.  On Hoary, they are in /usr/lib/X11/fonts.10:21
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El_Che:)10:21
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mpmcis Breezy out yet??10:21
Spudchatshould the pipe ( | ) follow exactly after the command or be seperated by a space?10:21
NoUsempmc see /topic10:21
budluvapoor me just finished 5.10rc10:21
bur[n] erlol @ topic ;)10:21
evianmmpc, see topic10:21
coolkevyes10:21
budluvai bed final comes out soon :P10:21
coolkevrob_p u are correct10:21
eckharthi, after dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy xorg is somehow broken for me10:21
kemikSpudchat:  space10:21
Spudchatthanks10:22
coolkevthe error said that's the file10:22
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Orbordenrbq: Okay, go to Synaptic.\10:22
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mpmcyeah, yeah very funny :/10:22
nrbqone sec10:22
coolkevnow in console how do i edit that file and set tot eh correct font location10:22
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eckhartdpkg-reconfigure --default-priority xserver-xorg creates an xorg.conf file that just shows a black screen10:22
coolkevlike what's the font location in hoary and breezy i'll try both10:22
rob_pcoolkev:  sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:22
rippy I have some problems with CDWriter an CDRom detection devices! The curious thing is the fact that I can read any kind of CD with both CDROM and CDWRITER, it starts atomatically the AutoRun thing! If I try to use cdrecord to burn a CD, I can't, because it can't find my CDWriter and CDROM, I used the command "cdrecord -scanbus" and here it is the message:10:23
rippyroot@rippy:~ # cdrecord -scanbus10:23
rippyCdrecord-Clone 2.01a29 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jrg Schilling10:23
rippyNOTE: this version of cdrecord is an unofficial (modified) release of cdrecord10:23
rippyand thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.10:23
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rippyPlease send bug reports and support requests to <cdrtools@packages.debian.org>.10:23
eracerbitcoolkev: use pico, not vi.. trust me will be easier10:23
rippyThe original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.10:23
rippycdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.10:23
rippycdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.10:23
coolkevok10:23
deFrysksomeone is flooding :s10:23
rippycdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.10:23
rippycdrecord:10:23
rippycdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc10:23
rippycdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup .10:23
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rippyI also, installed "xcdroast" and the following message message was shown on the screen: "No CDWriter or CDRom device detected.For ATAPI/IDE devices under Linux you have to enable SCSI-Emulation in the kernel in order to activate them!"10:23
rippyI run a UbuntuOS with a kernel version 2.6!10:23
mpmcSTOP10:23
coolkevand the font path what should they be on haory and breezy?10:23
raetsel99_!tell rippy about pastebin10:23
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rippyAny advice will be wellcomed!10:23
rippyany 1>10:23
NoUserippy don't paste in here10:23
rippy?10:23
syli725_iGadget_, hi, you sitll there?10:23
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cribbonsudo make-kpkg ( kernel thingie ) []  sudo: unable to  lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()10:24
Orborderippy: You dropped about 10 lines of text in here. It's pretty annoying when people do that.10:24
cribboni'm on chroot. is that the problem?10:24
rippyO'm sorry about that, but does any1 have any suggestin?10:24
raetsel99_could be cribbon if ubuntu is not in /etc/hosts from your chroot position10:24
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Orbordenrbq: Go to Settings->Repositories10:25
evianis there a way to make my scroll wheel scroll a larger amount for each notch it moves?10:25
cribbonok, i'll look that up10:25
vschneckhi10:25
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evianhi10:26
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coolkevand the font path what should they be on haory and breezy?10:26
vschnecksome one starcraft player here?10:26
lonkijust another quick question, is the ubuntu cd bootable? or do I need a floppy?10:26
raetsel99_you may need to create a an etc dir and create a hosts file, relative to where your chroot is10:26
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budluvalonki, its bootable10:26
deFrysklonki, bootable10:26
Orbordelonki: Yes, it's bootable.10:26
lonkik, thanks10:26
vschnecksome one starcraft player here?10:26
coolkevplease can someone tell me so i can try to fix this problem10:26
NoUselonki whats a floppy? :-)10:26
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coolkevrob_p?10:27
lonkiNoUse, that is what I was wondering, I have no floppy drive :-)10:27
sp00nheaddo they still make floppies?? :)10:27
syli725_iGadget_, i just found out what my card actually is.  if you are not online anymore, i will leave now.10:27
rob_pcoolkev:  As I said, in Hoary, the fonts are in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/.  Not sure about Breezy... probably the same.  By the way, in case you aren't too familliar with vi, once you open the file in vi, you can begin editing the file by hitting the, "a" key for append.  Once you finish making the changes, hit the escape key and then save the file by doing capital ZZ.10:27
jrattner1Will .iso's be available tommorrow? or is there a bit torrent or where is this info?10:27
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Pickle_Weaselis there a program or a command to burn ISOs to CD/DVD?10:27
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Orborderob_p: Why not pico?10:27
coolkevhoe do i save file using pico10:28
raetsel99_Pickle_Weasel try gnomebacker10:28
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Pickle_Weaselty ^.^10:28
raetsel99_!info gnomebaker10:28
rob_pOrborde:  Old (bad) habits :-)10:28
ubotugnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB10:28
rob_pOrborde:  Vi is all I use...10:28
Orbordejrattner1: ISOs are available now. Go to ubuntulinux.org and click download.10:28
Dekkardany ideas why ubuntu wont let my shytstem load(boot) FROM CD ANYMORE?10:28
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coolkevorborde how do i save file using pico10:28
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Orbordejrattner1: The torrent files are down at the bottom of the download page.10:28
tristanmikePickle_Weasel, also, people seem to like k3b10:28
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rob_pOrborde:  Since I don't know pico, I can't give advice using it :-)10:28
Orbordecoolkev: Control+X10:28
jrattner1Orborde, are the torrents runnign quick?10:28
coolkevok10:28
coolkevthanks10:29
coolkevi'll try it quick now10:29
nrbq_Orborde, sorry - I lost my connection - seems wireless is a bit flaky, too10:29
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coolkevand back back with results10:29
raetsel99_Pickle_Weasel you need to make sure you have the universe repository set up in apt/synaptic to get gnomebaker10:29
jrattner1Orborde, and this is the official release?10:29
nrbq_I'm back in Synaptic10:29
GNAMNOT OUT YET!10:29
syli725_iGadget_, sorry to trouble you. :) bye.10:29
Orbordejrattner1: Well, I managed to get both the install and live ISOs in 43 minutes....10:29
Pickle_Weaseli'm installing both =)10:29
nrbq_Orborde, shall I go to advanced settings?10:29
Orbordejrattner1: It is NOT the official release.10:29
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rippyCan any1 help with detecting CDRW? I tryed cdrecor -scanbus but reports error10:30
rippy?10:30
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jrattner1thats what i thought, i guess ill just wait for tomorrow10:30
Orbordejrattner1: It is a pre-release. However, with the magic of synaptic, you can easily upgrade to the release when it appears, assuming it changes between now and then.10:30
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raetsel99_I'm guessing the upgrade from the breezy release candidate to the final release will be straighforward?10:30
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raetsel99_you answered my question Orborde10:30
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Orbordenrbq: You want settings->repositories10:31
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juliuxhi is here anybody who can test something with cups?10:31
mpmcis it worthy downloading the preview release?10:31
Orbordenrbq: You're in Synaptic, right?10:31
lonkiis the kernel disregarded when you upgrade with synaptic by default?10:31
nrbqOrborde, I'm there10:31
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nrbqLooking at the repo list10:31
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juliuxit very important10:31
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nrbqQuite a few - shall I tick them all?10:31
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raetsel99lonki- what do you mean "dis-regarded"10:31
Orbordenrbq: Okay, is the 'Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" ' repo enabled?10:32
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Orbordenrbq: Yeah, ticking them all might do it.10:32
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coolkevusing pico i saw the xorg file and it's empty10:32
GregAscheanyone here use proxycheck?10:32
lonkiraetsel99, well, some distro's let you upgrade the system without updating the kernel10:32
Orbordecoolkev: That would be a problem....10:32
nrbqOrborde, there isn't an option for that10:32
nrbq????10:32
coolkevwhat do i do now10:32
Orbordenrbq: Okay, hit the Settings button and turn on "show disabled repositories"10:32
Orbordenrbq: You are on Breezy, right?10:33
raetsel99oh I see what you mean lonki - Well you always have the choice of picking what packages you upgrade with synaptic but there may be dependcies ( which it will pick up )10:33
nrbqOrborde, sorry, no - it's hoary10:33
nrbqSorry, I didn't make that clear10:33
Orbordenrbq: Okay...hmm....10:33
nrbqShall I run the updates and just pray?10:33
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nrbq:)10:33
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Orbordenrbq: This will entail me figuring out where that package is...10:33
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lonkiraetsel99, sounds familiar :-)10:33
Orbordenrbq: Updates are generally a Good Thing.10:33
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coolkevcan anyone help me, i have an empty xorg.conf file for my brezy10:34
nrbqOrborde, then I'm your man! Updating now10:34
rob_pcoolkev:  Do a, ls /etc/X11 and see if there's a backup of your old one.  Maybe there's an xorg.conf.sample or something similar...10:34
Orbordenrbq: Though they might not fix your problem, they are good in other ways.10:34
kvidellhm... so, good times. A friend of mine misread the label on a bottle of Ipecac and drank a bunch of it, expecting it was just an expectorant.10:34
Nomad_gsdfgsdfg10:34
kvideller.. *flips over to offtopic*10:34
coolkevok rob_p i'll try that10:34
abeliangrapesHow do I set up multiple monitors in ubuntu?10:34
nrbqOrborde, I just don't understand it - one laptop and it works like a dream10:34
XenguyHi - is it safe to follow the instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes, to upgrade to Breezy right now?10:34
kvidellxinerama!10:34
xiaogil_what is the command to delete a user ?10:35
Answeruserdel10:35
K-Richlooks like hoary->breezy with be a bit smother than warty->hoary, eh?10:35
nrbqThis laptop and it just complains about broken packages - right from the first run of apt-get10:35
buuliancan anyone direct me to a way to install java on breezy?10:35
cribbonraetsel99, /etc/hosts has the name i named it ( cribona), can i change this to ubuntu withou any orblems?10:35
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abeliangrapesHow do I set up multiple monitors on hoary?10:35
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raetsel99cribbons try adding it as an alias i.e. on the same line as the cribona10:35
bimberiuboto tell buulian about java10:35
Orbordenrbq: Yeah, that's Ubuntu. We're not perfect yet :)10:35
cribbonok, raetsel9910:36
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bimberiubotu tell buulian about java10:36
bimberisry about that :)10:36
sector10whats the point of the realplayer installer in synaptic?10:36
abeliangrapesHow do I set up multiple monitors on hoary?10:36
Answerabeliangrapes, pray.10:36
Orbordenrbq: Okay, I think in your case, you want 'Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" (Binary)10:36
K-Richabeliangrapes: are you using the nvidia drivers?10:37
raetsel99sector10 I didn't know there was one, is that in Breezy RC ?10:37
XenguyCan someone in the know tell me if it is safe to upgrade to Breezy (from Hoary) with apt-get ?10:37
abeliangrapesI'm using an ATI card.10:37
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jrattner1you guys check out the fridge yet10:37
raetsel99Xenguy, it's supposed to be, but there can always be issues....caveat emptor ( sort of )10:37
KelraithXenguy: It has worked for me.10:37
raingroveXenguy, sure no probem10:37
sector10raetsel99: dont use it its a waste of time10:37
groverXenguy: I did yesterday, worked fine afaict10:37
buulianis ubotu a bot?10:37
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NoUse!ubotu10:38
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:38
sector10raetsel99:  its in breezy version rp8,10:38
raetsel99sector10, I just use the .bin file from the site ( or from Helix )10:38
abeliangrapesK-Rich: I'm using an ATI card -- would nvidia help at all?10:38
raingroveubotu hello10:38
ubotuhi10:38
raingroveubotu rpm10:38
ubotuWish i knew, raingrove10:38
raingroveubotu rpm man10:38
uboturaingrove: Syntax error in line 110:38
raetsel99which I know is an evil thing to do to my package managment10:38
raingroveubotu print "hello"10:38
ubotuNot a clue, raingrove10:38
raingroveubotu printf("hello");10:38
K-Richabeliangrapes: dual head or?10:38
ubotuI haven't a clue, raingrove10:38
sector10raetsel99: thats better or real.com, helix wont allow bbc to work i think10:38
raingroveubotu (display "hello")10:38
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, raingrove10:38
NoUseraingrove he just stores links and such10:39
Orborderaingrove: Mind doing that by PM?10:39
raingrovei am sorry haha10:39
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lonkiow boy, this wait's for a nother bot answering with names and you will have an endless loop10:39
abeliangrapesK-Rich sorry I'm not familiar with the term. It's like my first week on linux, just wanted to set this up like I did when i had windows running.10:39
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raetsel99sector10 - hmm I've just put the RealPlayer for PowerPc on my emac from helix and it is playing up ( but then my sound card is screwy too )10:39
sector10raetsel99: the installer in synaptic makes you download a useless file really10:39
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icewthm.. is breezy delayed or something?10:39
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K-Richabeliangrapes: 2 video cards or one where you plug in two monitors (dual head)10:39
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abeliangrapesK-RIch: dual head10:40
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NoUseicewt no its not scheduled to be released until the 13th10:40
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sector10raetsel99: helix wont do the bbc integrated thing as far as i know10:40
Lord_Maynothdo you guys think ubuntu will automount windows fat and ntfs partitions (automatically) by the time dapper drake comes out?10:40
raetsel99Hi N6REJ, did you get your wireless card working the other day?10:40
OrbordeLord_Maynoth: You're sure it doesn't already do FAT?10:40
N6REJwould someone who is running hoary please tell me the content of their /etc/debian_version file says10:41
Lord_Maynothnot automatically it doesn't10:41
Lord_Maynothyou have to set it up10:41
icewtNoUse, well, when is it 13th in there where it's made?-)10:41
N6REJraetsel99: yes & no, got it working, son moved the system, and now it doesn't LOL10:41
nrbqOrborde, I'm going to see what happens with the updates10:41
nrbqThanks again for all your help10:41
nrbq:)10:41
K-Richabeliangrapes: this is my xorg.conf, i have dualhead nvidia... should be the same10:41
nrbqPeace and out10:41
sector10Lord_Maynoth: I think the disk manager in system: admin is dangerous right now10:41
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K-Richabeliangrapes: http://krich.dyndns.org/~krich/xorg.conf10:41
Orbordenrbq: You're welcome. Good luck. I diclaim all responsibility for damage10:41
raetsel99mine say 3.1. N610:41
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abeliangrapesK-Rich: Thanks!10:41
sector10Lord_Maynoth: If you click click th edefault it will mount windows in /user10:42
N6REJraetsel99: just 3.1?10:42
raetsel99yep N6REJ10:42
Lord_Maynothi know you can set it up to automount but shouldn't it be automatic?10:42
BockBilbowhat has happened to the vlc package???10:42
N6REJraetsel99: k, brb10:42
Lord_Maynothisn't that the ubuntu philosophy "it should just work"10:42
BockBilboit seens that its wrong10:42
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cribbonraetsel99, this is wierd,  now when i write the sudo make-kpkg command it answers : sudo: make-kpkg: command not found10:42
OrbordeLord_Maynoth: Yeah, we're not perfect yet. Go learn mount10:42
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BockBilboit seens to be using gtk1 instead of gtk210:42
Lord_Maynothlol10:43
sampo_v2is hdspconf (graphical alsa utility for high-end soundcards) available in any alsa package for ubuntu?10:43
sector10Lord_Maynoth: i agree, and there is an auto mount in :disks under system:admin10:43
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sampo_v2or is there any way to search ubunut package contents like you can search for debian packages in packages.debian.org ?10:43
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sector10Lord_Maynoth: but igf your not careful you will lose ability to sudo10:43
apokryphossampo_v2: packages.ubuntu.com10:43
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sampo_v2:)10:43
Lord_MaynothI think in 3 years time ubuntu is going to be awesome10:43
raetsel99hmm cribbon I don't really know what it is you are trying to do, but if you are chrooted you might need to put the full path to make-kpkg10:43
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Saba_Zgnome-art gives me this error on breezy  /usr/bin/gnome-art:22:in `require': No such file to load ...10:43
thechitowncubsLord_Maynoth, are you a certified psychic?10:44
Lord_Maynothyes10:44
tristanmikelol10:44
djpcan anyone tell me if there is a log file created when icons are generated in the .thumbnails folder?10:44
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Saba_Zany idea?10:44
cribbonraetsel99, how would the full patch look?10:44
cribbonpath*10:44
NoUsedjp I doubt it10:44
thechitowncubswow this channel is popular today10:44
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raetsel99the full path10:44
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apokryphosthechitowncubs: it's been so as of late10:44
sector10Lord_Maynoth: I think ubuntu is awsome now. its simple. just dont use windows,10:44
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K-Richthechitowncubs: this channel is ALWAYS popular lol10:44
cribbon ( /usr/src/linux ) ?10:44
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thechitowncubslast night it was about 55010:44
thechitowncubsbut jeez luiz10:45
thechitowncubshigh school must have let out10:45
bimberifirst time i've seen it over 60010:45
sector10i dont think its really made for dual boot10:45
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raetsel99standing room only10:45
sector10jsut wish bzflag wa fixed10:45
K-Richlol thechitowncubs10:45
djpMoUse, thanks. so i gather the identity of each thumbnail is generated in some type of order, which is reused if the directory (.thumbnails) is ever deleted?10:45
raetsel99and not one person to help with my PowerPC emac sound problem :'o(10:45
Lord_Maynothwell ubuntu is great for the price, but there are a lot of quircks that need to be ironed out...  and autopackge needs to evolve more to make software installtion easier10:45
thechitowncubsAlright I have a question for you guys... I have a 140gb ubuntu partition and a 20 gb wwin partition, i need to increase the windows partition by about 15 gigabytes and take away 15 from ubuntu, is this possible?10:46
NoUsedjp I'm not sure how the thumbnail stuff works10:46
raingrovehey is it possible to make apt-get do the building & compilation instead of just installing binaries?10:46
DekkardLord_Maynoth something easier than apt?10:46
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thechitowncubsLord_Maynoth, don't spark those types of debates, it has been over discussed and it is getting out of hand10:47
Lord_Maynothsomething that allows you to install current versions10:47
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K-Richraingrove: apt-get -b source <package>10:47
kevogodthechitowncubs, In order to resize (increase) Windows partitions, you need Partition Magic.10:47
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thechitowncubsWe all know all the kiddies want autopackage in because it makes it just like windows, but it just doesn't work that way10:47
raingrovethanks10:47
chavoLord_Maynoth, http://klik.atekon.de/10:47
kevogodI do not believe parted can increase the size of an NTFS partition, or can it now?10:47
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Lord_Maynothchit gaim 1.50 AP worked great in hoary10:48
XenguyThanks everyone10:48
raetsel99Interesting debate about autopackage here http://www.netsplit.com/blog/ ( scroll down a bit )10:48
thechitowncubskevogod, isn't it possible to resize in linux10:48
thechitowncubsya10:48
Lord_Maynothso did abiwork AP10:48
sector10it explains why no gcc is installed10:48
apokryphosthechitowncubs: autopackage, er, like what?10:48
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thechitowncubsapokryphos, what?10:48
raingroveK-Rich, is it possible to compile & build every package that is installed now? would that make my linux much faster?"10:48
sampo_v2any idea why hdspconf is not packaged for ubuntu?10:48
raetsel99raingrove - have you heard of gentoo ? ;o)10:48
sector10but right now you need it for realplayer10:48
thechitowncubsI was thinking more along the lines of the system rescue that is based of gentoo, will that contain all the tools i need to resize my ubuntu and ntfs partitions10:48
chavoraingrove, only if you count your spare time in nanoseconds10:48
sector10realplayer and bzflag should be fixed really10:49
sector10those are two fun programs10:49
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raingroveraetsel99, gentoo does that all the time?10:49
kevogodthechitowncubs, I do not believe the System Rescue CD will be able to increase the size of an NTFS partition.10:49
kevogodthechitowncubs, It uses QtParted on that particular cd.10:49
hilmarhi @ all10:49
raetsel99chavo, worth compiling a kernel from source probably...?10:49
hilmarsomebody knows how to get an x-forward through ssh?10:49
raetsel99raingrove, so I understand yes, gentoo is soley source based ( take about 3 days to install :o)10:49
chavoprobably spend more time compiling than you end up saving10:50
raingrovejesus christ10:50
raingrove3 days to install?10:50
thechitowncubskevogod, what does the ubuntu install partioner use to resize ntfs?10:50
kevogodIt does not take 3 days to install.10:50
hilmarit used to work with -X but now there are some errors when I want to open an application with a GUI10:50
raetsel99raingrove - see my smiley ;o)10:50
ProwerI moved from Gentoo to Ubuntu because of the long compile times, actually :> It didn't take 3 days to install, but it took a lot longer than a typical Ubuntu install10:50
raetsel99it does take a while though10:50
NoUseraingrove thats a big of exageration, but its a complex distro, not a bad thing if you want to use it for a while because you will learn a lot10:50
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Lord_Maynothso correct me if I am wrong... all drivers are integrated into the kernel correct? (except maybe for printers etc)10:50
K-Richraingrove: not sure how much faster.... would take a while to do and yeah it's possible... but i'd have to think on the command like... should be able to use awk in there with dpkg -l , but my brain isn't working that well right now lol10:50
kevogodYes, that is to be expected since you COMPILE everything.10:50
thechitowncubshmmm10:51
chavowell I build a lot of stuff from source, but only because I like bleeding edge10:51
kevogodthechitowncubs, I do not know what it uses.10:51
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thechitowncubsmaybe when breezy comes out i'll just reinstall both OS's10:51
thechitowncubsthe only reason i use win32 is web design10:51
Prowerkevogod: Yes, I'm aware of that...I did say that I used it10:51
Lord_Maynothso that means if your device is supported by a new kernel but your distro has not upgraded the kernel your stuck waiting until they do.10:51
raetsel99any PowerPC Mac users on here?10:51
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Lord_Maynotham  I correct on that assumption10:51
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Lord_Maynoth?10:51
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kevogodI do not see any reason to use Windows for Web design, but each to their own.10:51
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raingroveso should i try gentoo?10:51
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raetsel99Lord_Maynoth most drivers are done as modules, not directly in the kernel10:52
raingrovedoes gentoo have apt kind of convenience?10:52
kevogodraingrove, If you have time, it fun.10:52
chavothechitowncubs, you could resize your ubuntu partition and create a second ntfs for windows to use10:52
kevogodemerge!10:52
thechitowncubschavo, thats a possibility thanks10:52
chavoor get partition magic10:52
Lord_Maynothhow does one install a driver modules10:52
thechitowncubskevogod, its called dreamweaver and photoshop10:52
raingroveok I have 1GB ram, and i assigned 1GB swap space and i rarely see it being used.10:52
cribbonraetsel99, [root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux# sudo make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-kernel2 kernel_image kernel_headers10:52
cribbonsudo: make-kpkg: command not found ] 10:52
raingrovepeople suggest 2x RAM = 2GB? crazy10:52
thechitowncubsraingrove, im sorry10:53
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davedhow can i install a local .deb that i have (downloaded from somewhere) but have all of its deps installed from apt?10:53
raingrovebut 1GB seeems too much already10:53
raingrovehow much swap space do u recommend?10:53
chavodaved, dpkg -i10:53
bimberidaved: sudo dpkg -i file.deb10:53
raetsel99sorry cribbon, can't help you never used make-kpkg10:53
davedbimberi: not working10:53
davedit just complains that the dependencies aren't installed10:53
thechitowncubsraingrove, i recommend ubuntu defaul10:53
thechitowncubst10:53
cribbonraetsel99, any other ideas then?10:53
kevogodthechitowncubs, I don't use a WYSIWYG Web editor so Dreamweaver is not a loss. Photoshop really doesn't have an equivalent yet.10:53
Lord_Maynothjust use autopackage daved... its a lot easier than dealing with all that crud10:54
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davedLord_Maynoth: huh?10:54
raetsel99well you could do a find and search for make-kpkg10:54
thechitowncubskevogod, what do you use?10:54
raingrovehuh?10:54
wasabi_Don't suppose anybody is aware where to get the VIA graphics unichrome kernel module?10:54
kevogodthechitowncubs, I use Bluefish and the GIMP10:54
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davedLord_Maynoth: i have a .deb already... i want to install it.. it has several unmet dependencies that can be installed from apt10:54
raingrovethechitowncubs/ i am talking about ubuntu. i have 1GB swap space, is that too much?10:54
davedwhat do i do?10:54
chavoraingrove, I have 1G ram and 1G of swap. rarely touch the swap though10:54
thechitowncubsraingrove, can never have too much10:54
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chavoraingrove, if you have the diskspace, just leave it10:54
raetsel99cribbon - if you are chrooted maybe your root is below where make-kpkg is ???10:55
raingrovealright10:55
bimberidaved: pastebin the output from the dpkg command10:55
bimberi!pastebin10:55
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:55
raingroveit seems like soon i would have to resize windows partition to make more room for linux partition.10:55
raingrovehowever i dont wanna do a reinstall. is it possible to resize linux partition?10:55
raingrovecan partition magic do it fine10:55
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kevogodraingrove, You can resize Linux partitions with parted.10:56
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raingroveis parted safe?10:56
kevogodraingrove, gparted for GNOME and qtparted for QT10:56
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kevogodraingrove, Yes, on Linux partitions10:56
_tarballI have just got my laptop set up so it goes into hibernate when I press the power button, however, after restarting the machine goes back into hibernation after a couple of minutes, on the second restart its fine.  Any ideas?10:57
kevogodraingrove, Although keep in mind that bads happen at the worst times10:57
kevogod*bad things10:57
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cribbonraetsel99, nope, rooted into "/"10:57
kevogodMurphy's Law10:57
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basvghmm, I just upgraded another box to ubuntu and I keep getting '_IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.10:57
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K-Richraingrove: though out the command for you10:58
basvgdoes anyone know how to fix that?10:58
raetsel99hmm sorry cribbon , out of ideas10:58
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cribbonraetsel99, i could just compile and install it the usual way, right?10:58
raetsel99sorry cribbon I don't actually understand what it is you are trying to do10:58
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basvgmore specifically, I get an error when I try to log in (and the error I jst pasted is from ~/.xsession-errors)10:58
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raingroveK-Rich, though out?10:59
HeManHi! My machine shuts down when i've resumed from suspend to ram10:59
linadgood night guys10:59
Dalkusa game runnign fullscreen in KDE crashed and I had to kill -9 it. it left me with my resulution covering only the top quarter of my screen. how can I refresh it without logging out and in?10:59
cribbonraetsel99, i am trying to get my kernel working again after it installed it yesterday, but it contained errors which i've now fixed with chroot , make menuconfig. Now i need to install the new kernel so i can use my regular system ( working with the live cd now ).10:59
darklingwasabi_: You can get unichrome stuff from http://www.ivor.it10:59
Lord_Maynothso at what point do you guys think unbuntu will be evolved enough where the CLI is not necessary?11:00
HeMani try to find anything like this in the bugzilla but i find nothing there11:00
raetsel99oh I see, cribbon never done anything like that. sorry11:00
mustard5Lord_Maynoth, I think the power of the command line will have it around for a lot longer to come11:00
Lord_Maynothwell thats not what I ment11:01
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Lord_Maynothmeant11:01
cribbonraetsel99, ok, thanks anyway11:01
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raetsel99u r welcom , cribbon11:01
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bimberiLord_Maynoth: cli fixes are easier to specify on irc :)11:01
damghi, can anyone please post the link to full linux ati drivers? ati.com is so dumb that lynx cannot display it and i need those drivers to get X working ...11:01
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Lord_MaynothI meant when do you think the CLI will not be necessary for the adverage user11:02
K-Richraingrove:  apt-get -b source `COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}'`11:02
damgi mean a direct link to that 50+MB file11:02
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NoUse!tell damg about ati11:02
Lord_Maynothlike everything could be done from gui if need be11:02
NoUsedamg follow those instructions11:02
El_Che!tell El_Che about ati11:02
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raingroveK-Rich/ that will recompile every package in my hard drive?11:02
raingrovebuild from source?11:02
basscrhow do i stop the window manager of ubuntu to instal the fluxbox ?11:03
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damgNoUse: it won't work so easily, I need to edit the binary module and apt-get doesn't provide me several files I seem to need11:03
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damge.g. /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/*11:04
[A] ndy80just rebuilt a kernel, now when I boot I get this error: kernel panic - not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block... how can I fix it?11:04
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basscrhow do i stop the window manager of ubuntu to instal the fluxbox ?11:05
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me_hi need help seeing a raid drive on ntfs format any idea11:05
me_please11:05
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damganyone? just a plain http:// or ftp:// to the ati drivers somewhere on ati.com11:05
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cwilluI've got a panel stuck in the middle of the screen.  How do I get it back to the bottom?11:06
K-Richraingrove: it should, i didn't test it myself (i've no need to) bt the command shoud get all the source packages, compile, install then, the packages dplg -l has listed as installed11:06
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cwillu(breezy)11:06
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NoUsedamg https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9448/1m/dlmdownloads.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run?11:06
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jimmy_how do i find my kernel version?11:07
raetsel99well I'm off for the night, catch you folks later11:07
damgNoUse: thank you very much11:07
TylerDurdencan somebody help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/302311:07
Skidoojimmy_: uname -a11:07
K-Richraingrove: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}' will list the packages to be compiled and installed11:07
jimmy_thanks11:07
raingrovewhat does COLUMNS=200 do11:07
carthikHI, is there a way for me to create a complete perfect image of my laptop - so that I can backup somewhere and then restore it simply enough - not just the data, but the "State" of the machine, installed apps etc?11:07
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raingrovedoes it limit no of packages to 200?11:07
cwillucathik;  you're looking for a ghost or imaging tool... I'm pretty sure you can do it from linux, there are also several third party programs that can do it11:08
lonkicarthik, dd11:08
K-Richraingrove: it makes awk read the entire package name (unless it excedes 200 characters which i don't thank any do)11:08
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carthiklonki, dd of what? I have heard that the some directories can be excluded, for example?11:08
TylerDurdencan somebody help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/302311:09
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carthikcwillu, would you know of a tool available in the ubuntu repos?11:09
weezerhola a todos11:09
cwillunot off hand, sorry :(11:09
lonkicarthik, no, dd just copies the blocks, I think you want a backup system :-)11:09
damgNoUse: i just hope, i copied it without typos, since im in recovery mode i have to leave (only 1 tty) :D11:09
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nrbqOrborde, I think it must be something to do with ndiswrapper11:09
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carthiklonki, for one i hear one should not copy /proc /dev etc... i am on unsure ground here -- any help would be welcome...11:10
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NoUseTylerDurden apt-get install build-essential11:10
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TylerDurdeni did NoUse11:10
nrbqI've just run the updates and it failed with an error about linux_image_2.6 something and ndiswrapper.ko11:10
carthikon mac, i had "carbon copy" which worked great11:10
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cwillua block mode imager can't really ignore files;  what some of them do is image the 'important' parts of the machine, and then just do normal file backups of the rest11:10
duncanmanyone use ruby here?11:10
duncanmis there no rubygems for breezy?11:10
lonkicarthik, once you boot such an image proc will be filled again with relevant info11:10
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cevizogluhow can I scan my hard disk for bad blocks?11:10
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NoUseTylerDurden apt-get install gcc-3.411:11
TylerDurdenwhat if i do CC=gcc-4.0?11:11
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TylerDurdenor 3.411:11
NoUseTylerDurden what version do you have installed?11:11
TylerDurdenim not sure, i think 4.0 how can i make sure?11:12
OrbordeWell, I rebooted, changed settings, rebooted again, etc., and I still have the dreaded Double Clock Speed Problem.11:12
NoUseTylerDurden gcc -v11:12
TylerDurden4.0.111:12
TylerDurden.2*11:12
lonkicevizoglu, there is a tool called badblocks, I'm not aware if it is distributed with ubuntu11:12
cwilluMy power went out yesterday a few hours after I upgraded to breezy... when it came back, I had to do the 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' dance to get the resolution higher than 640x480.  But once that was working, the taskbar that was at the bottom of the screen is now stuck about a third of the way up (if I had to guess, I'd say at 480).  Going into preferences and changing it to top/side/bottom/whatever doesn't move it (although the11:12
cwillu side ones do make it vertical, just stuck in the center).  Any ideas?11:12
cribbonwhat command can i search for packages with apt ?11:12
NoUseyeah try the CC option, but I'm not sure11:12
carthiklonki, thanks, also /sys /dev /mnt and /media, I suppose?11:12
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NoUsecribbon apt-cache search11:12
xiaogili can't delete the main user with userdel, how can i reinitialize it then ?11:13
cribbonty11:13
lonkicarthik, yes, I think so11:13
OrbordeActually, not quite. It's ironic. I got rid of the DCSP by running the kernel with noapictimer, but then my network was fraggled.11:13
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carthiklonki, the only way is to try it once i suppose *dons crash test helmet*11:13
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SeTsUhi11:13
CzarAlexwhats the console command to check what version of ubuntu I have?11:13
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[Spooky] anyone got skype working in Ubuntu 5.10 ?11:13
NoUse lsb_release -a11:14
lonkicarthik, true, but then again, it will hold relevant info so if you restore it on the same machine there will be no loss11:14
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NoUseCzarAlex --^11:14
SeTsUhow can i mount a FAT32 partition on my ubuntu? i know how to on FC, but i just got this... :P11:14
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CzarAlexNoUse, would that tell if I had ubuntu or Kubuntu?11:14
carthiklonki, yup, i am just getting ready to reinstall when breezy comes out just for the heck of it11:14
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lonkimount -t vfat /foo /bar11:14
Trashcanoh woot11:14
NoUseCzarAlex they are really the same thing11:14
Trashcanupgraded acpi11:14
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CzarAlexNoUse, Thank you.11:14
Trashcanmaybe it will actually work now11:14
SeTsUthank ye11:14
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dirkvdbroekHello, can anyone help me to setup the windows file sharing so that it can be found by other pc's in my network?11:15
Lickerhow would I manually remove php?11:15
SeTsUhmm i get "mount point /bar does not exist"11:15
lonkiI never expected this much Dutch people in one channel :-)11:15
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trans_errI'm trying to install a huapage wintv (mode 401) card-- all the drivers seemed to have loaded properly but all i get is a blue screen (no signal)-- any ideas?11:16
K-Richlol lonki11:16
NoUse!tell dirkvdbroek about samba11:16
K-Rich!tell k-richt samba11:16
mustard5trans_err, changed to 'grabdisplay' and see it works11:16
K-Rich!tell K-Rich about samba11:16
[Spooky] anyone got skype working in Ubuntu 5.10 ?11:16
CzarAlexdirkvdbroek, www.ubuntuguide.org has a section on samba11:16
mustard5you using xawtv, trans_err ?11:16
lonkiK-Rich, even #php doesn't have so many Dutch visitor, it used to be one of the bussiest channels11:16
cevizoglulonki: looks like it's built-in11:16
trans_errmustard5: ill use anything that works11:16
tony_the_cable_gI have a 64 Bit Intel Dell.  Which Distro do I use?11:16
NoUse!ubuntuguide11:16
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.11:17
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mustard5trans_err, I run my wintv card using xawtv11:17
CzarAlexNoUse, ah thanks again.11:17
mustard5trans_err, you on hoary or breezy>11:17
mustard5?11:17
trans_errmustard5: breezy11:17
diemananyone here on i2?11:17
diemanor a reasonably fast (100mbps?) network11:18
trans_errmustard5: grabdisplay?11:18
HeMan[Spooky] : I have skype working under 5.10 (breezy badger)11:18
SeTsUi can't seem to get my FAT32 partition mounted... it's on another physical disk but i don't know if its because of that11:18
mustard5trans_err, ah good, cause I had a lot of grief with xawtv on hoary :D11:18
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mustard5xawtv can use overlay mode or a 'grapdisplay' mode11:18
[Spooky] HeMan: using static or installed ?11:18
trans_errmustard5: how do I switch?11:18
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mustard5trans_err, use synapitic package manager to download xawtv11:19
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HeMan[Spooky] : Just realised that it was some time ago i installed it11:19
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trans_errmustard5: i already have it installed11:19
mustard5k11:19
cwilluHmm... another display bug in breezy11:19
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HeMan[Spooky] : I have skype 1.0.0.20-111:20
mustard5trans_err, try v4l-conf(in terminal) and tell me what it says11:20
mustard5paste ouput in #flood11:20
trans_errmustard5: no overlay support11:20
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mustard5yeah...so you need to use the 'grabdisplay' option probably instead of overlay11:20
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trans_errright, how do I enable that?11:21
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[AoW] WolfsEyei have a question, will 5.10 released on 13.10. ?11:21
mustard5trans_err, the command scantv will show you how to scan channels and set up a config file11:21
NoUse[AoW] WolfsEye yes11:21
[AoW] WolfsEyethx11:21
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qt2brb, gotta reboot connection.11:21
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[AoW] WolfsEyeme too, gn8 ;)11:21
wasabi_Anybody aware of Via Unichrome drivers for Breezy?11:21
mustard5type info scantv or man scantv for the manual11:21
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SeTsUCan anyone help me mount my FAT32 partition please?11:22
trans_errmustard5: scantv fails "can't open /dev/vbi"11:22
NoUse!fat3211:22
ubotuI guess fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab11:22
mustard5ok11:22
mustard5try this....(one tick)11:22
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tony_the_cable_gI have a 64 Bit Intel Dell.  Which Distro do I use?11:23
sockpuppe1having a bit of trouble with the upgrade11:23
SeTsUNoUse, ty11:23
mustard5trans_err, scantv -c /dev/video0 -C /dev/vbi011:23
HrdwrBobtony_the_cable_g: depends11:23
mcquaidhow can i pipe the output of a program to a text file when foo > list fails?11:23
HrdwrBobtony_the_cable_g: if you want to easily use flash and 32 bit binaries11:23
HrdwrBobincluding things like video codecs11:23
HrdwrBobuse standard i386 ubuntu11:23
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tarzeaumcquaid: 2> ?11:24
trans_errmustard5: doesn't find any stations :/11:24
HrdwrBobif these things are not important to you11:24
HrdwrBobuse amd6411:24
mustard5hmmm.....11:24
mustard5is the aerial plugged in?11:24
pipouncan you advise me a good CMS? xoops mambo spip egroupware?11:24
sockpuppe1Errors were encountered while processing:11:24
sockpuppe1 /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1_i386.deb11:24
trans_erryeah. but im going to double check the connection-- brb11:24
Skidooi'm trying to configure grub for my previous kernel, but i can't seem to find my revious kernel. does ubuntu keep these anywhere handy?11:24
HrdwrBobpipoun: ubuntu uses plone I think11:24
mustard5trans_err, ok11:25
mcquaidtarzeau, that works thx11:25
sockpuppe1can anyone help11:25
sockpuppe1?11:25
HrdwrBobsockpuppe1: you need to put the full error in pastebin11:25
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tony_the_cable_gSo I should use the same one I have on this machine(32 bit AMD)11:26
tony_the_cable_g?11:26
HrdwrBobyes11:26
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HrdwrBobit'll still be fast11:26
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tony_the_cable_gThanks Bob.11:26
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HrdwrBoboh11:26
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HrdwrBobsorry hangon11:26
HrdwrBobtony_the_cable_g: user 32bit no matter what11:26
HrdwrBobtony_the_cable_g: 64 bit intel is a waste of time11:26
SeTsU!nvidia11:26
HrdwrBob*use11:26
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:26
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Kerr!unichrome11:27
ubotuKerr: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:27
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tony_the_cable_gOK....So much for that 600 bucks....LOL11:27
sockpuppe1http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3026 hrdwrbob!11:27
HrdwrBob:)11:27
HeMan[Spooky] : Just upgraded to 1.2.0.17, didn't work...11:27
Skidooanyone know where old kernel images a stored?11:27
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[Spooky] HeMan: same here :/11:28
HrdwrBobsockpuppe1: remove libwine-gl11:28
HeMan[Spooky] : Umm, sorry, just added --force-all to my dpkg command11:28
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HeMan[Spooky] : _did_ work!11:28
[Spooky] HeMan: where did you get the deb then ?11:28
HeManskype.com11:29
tony_the_cable_gJust curious......I tried both Kubuntu and Ubuntu....Ubuntu seems to constantly have updates where Kubuntu never does..Any reason for that?11:29
[Spooky] HeMan: yepp i saw it now, im blind hehe11:29
sockpuppe1hrdwrbob i cant seem to get rid of it11:30
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tony_the_cable_gHow is Skype?11:30
sockpuppe1skype is pretty cool on linux11:30
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HeMan[Spooky] : it's alot slower to start than my old version (1.0.0.20)11:30
tony_the_cable_gIt only charges if you call a land line?11:30
sockpuppe1yeah tony11:30
HeManyes, it has some cool dbus interface so that you could talk to it from other applications11:31
sockpuppe1pc to pc=free11:31
tony_the_cable_gI have Vonage.11:31
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HeMantony_the_cable_g: and it's usually local rate11:31
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tony_the_cable_gIs it cheaper than Vonage?11:31
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guru5420 bucks a month11:32
miksuso how long ;)11:32
tony_the_cable_gWOW...11:32
tony_the_cable_gunlimited?11:32
sockpuppe1hrdwrbob what should I do11:32
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SeTsU!dns11:32
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, SeTsU11:32
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ubotuSeTsU: I haven't a clue11:32
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miksuHEY i did dist-upgrade and its iupgrading...any explanation11:33
ubotuSeTsU: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about11:33
Dalkusin KDE what do I need to download to change the titlebar appearance of a windows11:33
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SeTsU!networking11:33
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Dalkus*window?11:33
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guru54yea tony_the_cable_g  its mci unlimited long distance11:33
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d3vicehi11:33
asparaguiwhen's breezy gonna go live?11:33
tony_the_cable_gThat is to cool.... I'm downloading it now.11:33
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[Spooky] i get this shit: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:34
[N] ameasparagui, Tomorrow supposedly11:34
HrdwrBobsockpuppe1: dpkg --purge libwine-gl11:34
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asparaguigmt?  ;-)11:35
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miksubut i did apt-get dist-upgrade! why is it upgrading11:35
[Spooky] HeMan: i guess i have to give up skype...11:35
[N] ameasparagui, supposedly 0:00 gmt on the 13th11:35
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[N] amepretty sure though that wont happen11:36
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fonsdhi everybody, I'm not really good in english so I apologize to only post a question without discussing before :11:36
fonsdI have a probleme when a try a "apt-get update". I have several times this kind of msg :11:36
fonsd"Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/main Packages"11:36
fonsdSo my question is : Why does apt ignore those packages (all main, universe, multiverse and restricted for hoary-extras hoary-extras-staging and hoary-backports) ?11:36
tony_the_cable_gOne more question....Whenever I try to play Tux Racer or TuxTyping, the screen goes black and the monitor says check PC settings. Any ideas?11:36
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blkdomini2hi all11:36
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fonsdCan I fix this problem ?11:36
fonsdhow ?11:36
sockpuppe1hrdwrbob its moving along now11:36
mustard5miksu, take the space out..... try apt-get dist-upgrade11:36
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KenSentMeoccy: is Breezy out yet?11:37
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mustard5hmmm....might have just looked like a space,11:37
blkdomini2i have ubuntu 5.10 Breezy preview i would like remove GPG key control for change my repositories, how is it possible?11:37
[N] amefonsd, there appears to be something wrong with your sources.list11:37
OrbordeDid Breezy go and switch to ALSA instead of ESD, or what?11:37
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miksumustard actually i did11:37
tahorgalsa and esd are 2 different things11:37
ubuntuguyanyone: Has Breezy been delayed?11:38
judaxKenSentMe: not yet11:38
redspikeanyone have get the nvidia driver to work nice?11:38
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fonsdok but here is what I've got :11:38
fonsddeb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted11:38
fonsddeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted11:38
fonsddeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted11:38
fonsddeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted11:38
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HrdwrBobredspike: nicely11:38
HrdwrBoband yes11:38
fonsdI don't see any error11:38
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esachow do i forward a single port ?11:38
fonsdI have searched the web, forums etc...11:38
mustard5fonsd, paste in #flood or pastebin please11:38
fonsdbut nothing helps11:38
redspikeHrdwrBob, do you use the driver from www.nvidia.com ?11:39
fonsdwhere ?11:39
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fonsdpastebin ?11:39
KenSentMejudax, i know, but it was too tempting to not ask11:39
blkdomini2i would like add debain repositories11:39
HrdwrBobredspike: recently yes  idid11:39
blkdomini2*debian11:39
mustard5!tell fonsd about pastebine11:39
mustard5!tell fonsd about pastebin11:39
HrdwrBobhowever breezy will have the latest driver11:39
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HrdwrBobso use that11:39
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[N] amefonsd, and you did a apt-get update11:39
judaxKenSentMe: not very many days left however11:39
tony_the_cable_gOne more question....Whenever I try to play Tux Racer or TuxTyping, the screen goes black and the monitor says check PC settings. Any ideas?11:39
fonsdyes11:39
fonsdI did11:40
KenSentMejudax it's planned for tomorrow isn't it11:40
Kerr'ello... I reccomended ubuntu to a friend, she installed yesterday and all was fine. today, her screen 'ripples'... she uses VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01) and from her pasting bits of her xorg.conf she's using the vi driver. a quick google reveled that there is a unichrome driver, but i'm unfamiliar with xorg. Any ideas, like; is the driver apt-getable, or already installed?11:40
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SyrraHmm, breezy isn't out yet?11:40
OrbordeDid Breezy go and switch to ALSA instead of ESD, or what?11:40
fonsdI have try to clean the cache11:40
OrbordeSyrra: Not officially.11:40
Syrraokay11:40
LickerDo i need to stop services in order to unisall things?11:40
[N] amefonsd, Id try recreating your sources.list11:40
mustard5Licker, no11:41
[N] ameback to default11:41
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miksusomeone smart try apt-get dist-upgrade     ,      it is upgrading         is breezy out in ftp?11:41
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JaivazHow do I make Nautilus open in the same window?11:41
julioamsin 2 hors11:41
JaivazI forgot how and it keeps opening in different windows.11:41
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julioamsat 00:00 GMT11:41
fonsdI tried 3 differents sources.list (default, manual, and the one from ubuntustarterguide)11:41
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miksuso what is my terminal doing, it began upgrading or is dist-upgrade a general guideline to upgrade ever ything to recent date11:42
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trans_errmustard5: still around. I can't think of anything else...11:43
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[N] amemiksu, i hope you set your sources.list to point to breezy before running dist-upgrade11:43
fonsdHere is the one I wrote : http://pastebin.com/39166511:43
tonio_would anybody like to help me set up freevo11:43
mustard5trans_err, yeah..I've been waiting to here news :)11:43
HrdwrBobtonio_: freevo requires actually editing the code to freevo11:43
HrdwrBoblast time I set it up11:43
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miksuname of course breezy cd , breezy universe, breezy upgrades (not universe) breezy security upgrades (not universe) done in synaptic11:44
HrdwrBoband I don't have the time atm11:44
trans_errmustard5: the cable definetly works-- but I still don't get any channels-- I havn't seen where I could set grabcapture mode though11:44
mustard5trans_err, start up xawt tv and do a right click on the screen11:44
HrdwrBobtonio_: send an email to matt@vicnet.net.au and I might do a howto11:44
tonio_ok11:44
qt2grr, reboot time.11:44
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JaivazWtf, I can't choose images from /.icons/ as icons for launchers11:44
mustard5trans_err, there is a hidden file in your HOME directory called .xawtv which should contain your config11:45
trans_errmustard5: well now its black instead of blue...11:45
trans_errand scantv still refuses to work11:45
mustard5black is good11:45
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mustard5blue is bad :D11:45
mustard5black means progress11:46
trans_errmustard5: good-- no where do I go :D11:46
thechitowncubskevogod, are you still here?11:46
kevogodthechitowncubs, Yes11:46
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thechitowncubskevogod, what do you use for uploading to the server w/ bluefish?11:46
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fonsdand here is the result from the posted source.list when I "apt-get update" my system : http://pastebin.com/39166811:46
thechitowncubsgftp is so clunky and takes so many clicks11:46
Kerrdoes anyone know where i can find a via s3 unichrome driver, or if the driver is already installed on hoary?11:47
JaivazHey, can anyone help me with this? I can't choose any images from /.icons/ as my icons for launchers.11:47
mustard5I'd try this in console....   xawtv -device /dev/video0 -vbidev /dev/vbi011:47
bipolarSeveas, Ping11:47
chavothechitowncubs, is the server running sshd?11:48
thechitowncubschavo, not sure, why11:48
trans_errmustard5: static city11:48
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chavoin KDE you just set up a shortcut using fish:// then you can save the file directly from save dialog to server11:49
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chavoyou can do it in gnome also I believe11:49
Kerr!VT837811:49
ubotuKerr: I don't know11:49
mustard5trans_err, when you right click on the screen does it bring up the options menu?11:49
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Kerr!Via11:49
ubotuKerr: Are you on ritalin?11:49
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chavojust not sure how to set it up in Gnome11:49
trans_errmustard5: yup11:49
mustard5grab is in there11:49
trans_errmustard5: its set11:49
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thechitowncubschavo, i'm not familiar with fish11:49
thechitowncubschavo, yes it does have ssh11:50
mustard5hmmm..your so close its painful trans_err  :D11:50
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trans_errmustard5: maybe its a chanel thing?11:50
mustard5I'd fiddle with the Ctrl-uparrow and try tuning manuallly11:50
mustard5has it got your country frequency table loaded?11:50
_iGadget_which tools should I be using for handling lvm partitions?11:51
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mustard5if you look carefully at the scantv instructions you can create an empty config file called .xawtv in your home directory11:51
chavothechitowncubs, fish is a KDE frontend to ssh and scp, like I said I don't know hot to set it up for gnome though. It would use gnome-vfs I assume11:51
trans_errmustard5: yeah :/11:51
trans_errmustard5: still all static11:51
mustard5sounds like we need to work on scantv more11:52
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Kerrmumble.11:52
El_Chethechitowncubs, chavo : is there in gnome. Just press ctrl + l in nautilus and type user@ssh.host.name11:53
mustard5type cat ~/.xawtv and paste in #flood11:53
El_Cheand that's it11:53
trans_errmustard5: I jsut ran i again-- it doesn't find any stations :/11:53
El_Cheyou can even mount from places11:53
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ccfielhello ppl11:53
chavoEl_Che, but you can add a link to it in the open/save dialog also, right?11:54
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ccfielwhere can i find icons directory in ubuntu?11:54
thechitowncubsEl_Che, when you mount from places is there an actually place in the filesystem where it is mounted to so i can save files from external apps to there?11:54
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mustard5what options are you running scantv with trans_err ?11:54
nrglgreetings, earthlings!11:54
Dekkardok11:54
tony_the_cable_gOne more question....Whenever I try to play Tux Racer or TuxTyping, the screen goes black and the monitor says check PC settings. Any ideas?11:54
trans_errmustard5: now, none-- I linked /dev/vbi0 -> /dev/vbi11:55
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nrgldoes anyone know where the libpam-ldap can be found for Breazy?11:55
mustard5ah ok..thats what I did...soft linked them11:55
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ccfielwhere can i find icons directory in ubuntu?11:56
antixwhen is the release date for breezy?11:56
carthikso is breezy set to be released tomorrow - at what time?11:56
Belutzccfiel, /usr/share/pixmaps11:56
mustard5and you linked /dev/video0 with /dev/video?11:56
Kerrantix: a day or two after duke nukem forever, i hear.11:56
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ccfielbelutz thaks11:56
trans_err/dev/vbi0 -> /dev/vbi11:56
carthikantix, tomorrow (13th) dont know if it is on track, which is what I want to find out11:56
BlankBcarthik: tomorrow is relative to where in the world you are. 8)11:56
KenSentMeKerr, lol11:56
carthikBlankB, I will be happy with a UTC time :o)11:57
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julioamshehehe11:57
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mustard5what about /dev/video0 -> /dev/video ?11:57
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cafuego_shoo!11:57
BlankBcarthik: I dont think there is an eta other than Oct 13th.11:57
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Razor-Xmeh, I was hoping Breezy would come out the day after Knife of Dreams11:58
carthikBlankB, ah! I shall die of anxiety then - been literally counting days -- now hours11:58
mustard5hmmm...ah..one more question....have you run any other sound devices recently trans_err ?11:58
Razor-XWheel of Time reader Ubuntu users are let down everywhere :P11:58
cafuego_carthik: Oct 13 is today (and has been for 8 hours)11:58
mustard5I would try a killall esd and the try to run again11:58
Razor-Xs/reader/reading/11:58
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carthikcafuego_, can't be, unless you are in NZ11:58
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carthik;)11:58
KenSentMecafuego_, not here11:58
cafuego_cathik: I'm not in NZ.11:59
KenSentMecafuego_, it starts in a minute11:59
cpalmaAU then?11:59
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cafuego_cpalma: yeah11:59
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carthik(lucky cafuego gets ubuntu a DAY before I do - hrmph)11:59
cafuego_carthik: I've been using breezy for months11:59

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