[12:00] <x10> yeah :P
[12:00] <x10> this one isnt
[12:01] <Hackphil> who knows when the ubuntu new version will be ready and how to get it?
[12:01] <Hackphil> thx
[12:01] <njan> Hackphil, google
[12:01] <njan> thx
[12:01] <LasseL> heh, breezy is still freezy
[12:01] <Hackphil> I'm a newbie with Linux
[12:01] <tristanmike> Hackphil, oct 13, and you can download or get it sent to you
[12:01] <foXgamer> In 2 days Hackphil.
[12:01] <nalioth> Hackphil: see /topic
[12:01] <njan> Hackphil, it isn't hard to research, though.
[12:02] <Hackphil> sorry but... I'm a real newbie ;-)
[12:02] <nalioth> Hackphil: in 2 days
[12:02] <anchovie> foXgamer: I don't think I have that packet in my repository, did a search in Synaptic for dvdcss and it came up with libdvdread3 which I have installed. I don't think that's the problem though, 'cause it was working great last night till today when I just logged on about 40 minutes ago I got prompt to update my packages by the Update Manager, and I did, so I'm not sure if that's what's causing the problem.
[12:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell anchovie about dvd
[12:03] <RedGhost> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[12:03] <RedGhost> so i wont need to do a new install?
[12:03] <foXgamer> nalioth: I thinkg anchovie doing his upgrade has caused the problem. Is there a way to do a 'roll-back'?
[12:04] <nalioth> foXgamer: rollback to hoary? not easy
[12:04] <VR^> hey guys, how can i create a new partition from the unused space on my hd?
[12:04] <Fango> Whats the main diffs between breezy and hoary?
[12:04] <Fango> Is thewre a changelog?
[12:04] <nalioth> VR^: use qt- or g- parted
[12:04] <anchovie> foXgamer and nalioth: The update was done in Breezy, it wasn't an upgrade, just an simple package update from the update manager.
[12:04] <nalioth> anchovie: then i have no clue
[12:05] <pupil> How do I stop a process running in a terminal?
[12:05] <cwillu_> dist-updating to breezy, getting questio
[12:05] <cwillu_> buh
[12:05] <cwillu_> ignore that :p
[12:05] <cwillu_> pupil:  ctrl+z?\
[12:05] <sobersabre> hi guys, i am looking for: 1. kwin-baghira 0.7 2. latest skype for ubuntu. where can these be found ?
[12:05] <VR^> nalioth: gparted won't let me create a new partition
[12:05] <foXgamer> anchovie: Only thing I can suggest is to see if you can undo the upgrade and see if that works. Did you reboot after the upgrade?
[12:05] <anchovie> foXgamer: Yes I did.
[12:06] <jode> can someone tell me how to get realplayer on breezy. I have the file.
[12:06] <nalioth> VR^: it wont?
[12:06] <VR^> nalioth: nope, the menu is greyed out
[12:06] <sobersabre> my q. is about breezy too!
[12:06] <TylerDurden> seethru,
[12:06] <Fango> Whats the main diffs between breezy and hoary?
[12:06] <Fango> Is thewre a changelog?
[12:06] <anchovie> foXgamer: I point VLC to open DVD at dvd://, is that correct or should it be dev:///dvd or something like that?
[12:06] <nalioth> VR^: did you start it with "sudo" ?
[12:06] <sobersabre> VR^, are you running this as root ?
[12:06] <VR^> nalioth: yes, sudo open gparted
[12:06] <sobersabre> nalioth, :)
[12:07] <sobersabre> VR^, run: sudo gparted
[12:07] <nalioth> anchovie: it should be /dev/cdrom0 or something
[12:07] <foXgamer> anchovie: It will be whatever the dvd is mounted to. Have you tried running through the terminal to see what error messages you get? That should give you a clue.
[12:07] <anchovie> nalioth: Okay, let me give that a try.
[12:07] <VR^> sobersabre: yeah, i still cannot do it
[12:07] <anchovie> foXgamer: No I have not, how do I run it in the terminal? What are the specific commands?
[12:08] <sobersabre> which partition are you trying to edit ?
[12:08] <sorush20> why does amrok need to run sound though gstreamer or arts and not directly to alsa..
[12:08] <VR^> hda1
[12:08] <foXgamer> anchovie: If you are using, say, mplayer, then you would type mplayer <file>
[12:08] <sobersabre> sorush20, it can, but then it will lock the device.
[12:08] <VR^> my install is on there
[12:08] <VR^> my hoary install
[12:09] <nalioth> VR^: you need to use a livecd, cuz you cant modify mounted partitions
[12:09] <sobersabre> VR^, I didn't mean which device name. what is the File System Type ?
[12:09] <VR^> i assume thats why
[12:09] <selinium> is there a way of sending email from the command line?
[12:09] <anchovie> foXgamer: How do I check which path is my DVD mounted under?
[12:09] <selinium> hi nalioth :)
[12:09] <VR^> sobersabre: sorry, ext3
[12:09] <sobersabre> VR^,  are you editing a mounted partition ? :)
[12:09] <nalioth> Howdy selinium
[12:10] <VR^> sobersabre: yes, i guess i'll try what nalioth suggested
[12:10] <foXgamer> anchovie: Have a look in your file manager under the /mnt directory. It will show up there.
[12:10] <sorush20> sobersabre: I keep getting the error message that the device is not found.. however.. the device is hw,0,1 and this work in xmms, but not in amarok can you help
[12:10] <foXgamer> anchovie: Oh yeah! If you get it working, can you let me know? I'm still trying to get mine to work. lol
[12:10] <VR^> nalioth, sobersabre: so i need to unmount it when i run the livecd, then just resize and create a new partition, right?
[12:11] <Rolo> um
[12:11] <Rolo> So I'm in.
[12:11] <LasseL> why does it take 2-3 minutes to log in to breezy?
[12:11] <foXgamer> hey Rolo
[12:12] <Rolo> lo :>
[12:12] <anchovie> foXgamer: I tried to run "vlc dvd://" in terminal and it says "libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.9 from http://dvd.sf.net
[12:12] <anchovie> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[12:12] <anchovie> libdvdread: Can't stat
[12:12] <anchovie> No such file or directory
[12:12] <anchovie> libdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD
[12:12] <anchovie> libdvdread: Can't stat
[12:12] <anchovie> No such file or directory
[12:12] <Rolo> This is my first time trying to do anything in Linux (Ubuntu), so if you're not nice to me, I'll go back to being an MS whore and it'll all be very sad and we'll all cry
[12:12] <nalioth> VR^: when you boot into the livecd, no drive will be mounted
[12:12] <anchovie> [00000264]  dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source:
[12:12] <sobersabre> LasseL, from which point ?
[12:12] <anchovie> [00000263]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'
[12:12] <VR^> nalioth: how do i proceed then?
[12:12] <LasseL> sobersabre, gdm to I see the desktop
[12:13] <nalioth> Rolo: you'll cry, not us, lol
[12:13] <Rolo> hehe.  It's worked so far :p
[12:13] <nalioth> VR^: boot into the ubuntu live cd and run gparted
[12:13] <sobersabre> LasseL, are your home files on NFS ?
[12:13] <VR^> nalioth: right, and then?
[12:13] <Rolo> Can I see NTFS shares from here?
[12:13] <LasseL> sobersabre, my gnome session is configured to launch xchat first, I see that 2-3 minutes metacity
[12:13] <LasseL> sobersabre, nope
[12:13] <frickel> how can I force to delete a directory?
[12:13] <foXgamer> Rolo: We are very nice in here :)
[12:13] <VR^> nalioth: oh ok, i see now. no need to unmount
[12:13] <Rolo> hehe.  result :>
[12:13] <VR^> just resize and so on
[12:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rolo about ntfs
[12:14] <Rolo> :sips
[12:14] <sobersabre> LasseL, what do you load on your logon except xchat ?
[12:14] <VR^> nalioth: thanks a lot
[12:14] <VR^> bbl
[12:14] <nalioth> selinium: alcohol in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:14] <selinium> Roll
[12:14] <LasseL> sobersabre, in "Startup programes" I have xchat and xmodmap
[12:14] <cevizoglu> hey, save the margaritas until the 13th!  heehee, my favorite number too
[12:15] <selinium> nalioth: ok, he was wondering how friendl we are in here.
[12:15] <frickel> what console order to I need to force to delete a directory?
[12:15] <Seveas> It's Oct 12 here
[12:15] <sobersabre> LasseL, analyze your ~/.xsession-errors file.
[12:15] <Seveas> One day to Breezy :)
[12:15] <selinium> Hi Seveas :)
[12:15] <LasseL> sobersabre, in "Current session" I see: gnome-session-properties, xmodmap, metacity, gnome-volume-manager, gnome-panel, nautilus, update-notif, gnome-cups, gaim, xchat
[12:15] <selinium> Rolo: yes you can read ntfs
[12:15] <kbrooks> Seveas: 1.5?
[12:15] <fryfrog> tell fryfrog about dvd
[12:16] <kbrooks> Seveas: 2 days here
[12:16] <Seveas> kbrooks, I'm expecting breezy ISO's around noon
[12:16] <LasseL> sobersabre, ** (gnome-cups-icon:7373): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
[12:16] <foXgamer> hehe. Let's all hope that all of us are not staying up for the release, otherwise I can see network problems!
[12:16] <selinium> kbrooks: deends where you are on the planet!
[12:16] <kbrooks> Seveas: around noon?!?
[12:16] <nalioth> Rolo: ubotu sent you a msg
[12:16] <selinium> depends*
[12:16] <anchovie> foXgamer: I got it to work, first type "mount" in your terminal and look for where your DVD is mounted.
[12:16] <kbrooks> Seveas: noon tomorrow?
[12:16] <nalioth> anchovie: please dont paste in here
[12:16] <fryfrog> is there a command to make the bot tell me about dvd? :)
[12:17] <nalioth> fryfrog: /msg ubotu ubotu
[12:17] <fango> !dvd
[12:17] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[12:17] <pupil> nalioth, now I can't sudo.,. the sudo process is stuckl when I try and use sudo it freezes
[12:17] <Rolo> Hiya... um... can someone explain what I do with this FSTAB file about mounting NTFS?  I can't just run it.  Can I find some info elsewhre if not?
[12:17] <Seveas> kbrooks, noon as in in about 36 hours
[12:17] <foXgamer> anchovie: cool. So it is working then from the terminal but not from the gui?
[12:17] <Kensey> I'm having all kinds of fun trying to move my data onto a new partition
[12:17] <sobersabre> LasseL, logout, remove this file, login from console, run: touch ~/.xsession-errors; logout, and login via gdm
[12:17] <ktogias_> frickel, rm -Rf dirpath will recursively remove the dirpath directory with all its contents/subdirs. USE WITH CAUTION.
[12:17] <anchovie> foXgamer: Yeah... strange.
[12:17] <frickel> thx
[12:17] <Kensey> anybody ever tried to move /usr/lib to a new partition?
[12:17] <fango> !tell Rolo ubuntuguide
[12:17] <fango> !ubuntuguide
[12:17] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:17] <Trashcan> frickel: rm -rf will wipe it out without second notice
[12:18] <sobersabre> guys, my suspend to RAM started to work !!!! whom shall I thank ?
[12:18] <Rolo> !faq
[12:18] <ubotu> somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:18] <fryfrog> !hoary-extras
[12:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:18] <foXgamer> anchovie: Then it sounds like a problem with the startup of the program. Have a look at the configuration file for the program and see if there are any anomolies
[12:18] <nalioth> y'all stop with the bot
[12:18] <nalioth> !msg the bot
[12:18] <cwillu_> !breezy-extras
[12:18] <ubotu> cwillu_: Are you on ritalin?
[12:18] <cwillu_> ?
[12:18] <Seveas> !faq =~ s/ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/doc.ubuntu.com/
[12:18] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[12:18] <cwillu_> cute
[12:18] <Xanadu> sobersabre for the first time my hibernate works too :)
[12:18] <Kelraith> I would like to add a cron job how do I do it?
[12:18] <Rolo> So.  What's the significance of an fstab file?  It's some sort of os script?
[12:18] <selinium> Rolo: what help do you need?
[12:19] <cwillu_> !backports
[12:19] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:19] <Xanadu> Kelraith: crontab -e
[12:19] <anchovie> foXgamer: Where can I look for the configuration file for the program?
[12:19] <Seveas> Rolo, it defines the mountpoints of all your filesystems
[12:19] <Kelraith> thanks..
[12:19] <Kensey> fstab is the file that tells your OS where the various partitions are and what they mount as
[12:19] <Rolo> Okay.
[12:19] <Seveas> and the location of your swaps
[12:19] <Xanadu> Kelraith: To list current crontabs, crontab -l
[12:19] <Rolo> So, do I copy it somewhere?
[12:19] <sobersabre> hibernate worked earlier here, but suspend to RAM was not returning me into X.
[12:19] <selinium> Ok for a private message Rolo?
[12:19] <Rolo> Go nuts :>
[12:19] <fango> Breezy or Hoary which to choose..suppose 2 days to go there is gonna belittle or no major changes to Breezy, will I be able to update to stable then?
[12:19] <Kira> How do I get a topic list of ubotu?
[12:19] <sobersabre> LasseL, what's up ?
[12:20] <Kris_k> Hey i have a crappy laptop and it doesnt allow booting from the CD rom so how would i go about installing from a cd lmao, it has windows 96 plus! on it lol
[12:20] <foXgamer> anchovie: I would say that it would be in your home directory. Use file manager and select view hidden files and look for the program dir. it will start with a period (.)
[12:20] <Seveas> fango, go for Breezy :)
[12:20] <Xanadu> sobersabre my hibernate didn't work at all on Hoary even with much work, creating special partitions etc. Now it works out of the box on a Sony Vaio with a Maverick bios
[12:20] <selinium> Kira: /topic
[12:20] <kbrooks> !faq
[12:20] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:20] <LasseL> sobersabre, logged out, removed .xsession-error, now avaiting login to complete
[12:20] <Falstius> Kris_k: smart boot manager might be a good place to start.  It makes a 3.5" disk that you can then use to boot other media
[12:20] <kbrooks> What's the C in that link
[12:20] <sobersabre> Xanadu, VAIO should've worked too...
[12:21] <sobersabre> which video card ?
[12:21] <Kelraith> theres cron.daily the stuf in there is not in crontab -l
[12:21] <Kris_k> Falstius is there a way to do it from dos ?
[12:21] <sobersabre> LasseL, you can look at the file from console with tail -f ~/.xsession-errors
[12:21] <fryfrog> is there no breezy-backports?
[12:22] <fango> Seveas, 20 Gb HD, new Install 256MB ram, swp 512MB, 10GB /home , Rest / - sufficient partitioning ya reckon?
[12:22] <ajmitch_> fryfrog: backport from where?
[12:22] <sobersabre> and watch which message is reappearing too frequently
[12:22] <Xanadu> sobersabre dude i tried and tried on breezy - closest i got was for it to hibernate and crash on restart. Apparently the Maverick bios is a bit tricky. I even went as far as building the latest ACPI stuff
[12:22] <fryfrog> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/?
[12:22] <Falstius> Kris_K, you can use lilo from dos
[12:22] <fryfrog> maybe i just have the wrong url?
[12:22] <Falstius> I can't tell you the details though.
[12:22] <Kris_k> lol k
[12:22] <Kris_k> ill try smart boot
[12:22] <Seveas> fango, swap's a bit on the edge but ok
[12:22] <Jalsdjk> hi
[12:23] <Jalsdjk> what's a good FTP client that's already installed in ubuntu?
[12:23] <fango> Seveas, recommend for swp, match RAM?
[12:23] <Jalsdjk> one that I can type "apt-get" to get...
[12:23] <Seveas> Jalsdjk, places -> connect to server
[12:23] <fango> 256MB?
[12:23] <Kensey> anybody here ever tried to move *part* of /usr off the root partition to a new partition?
[12:23] <foXgamer> Jalsdjk: What desktop are you using?
[12:23] <sobersabre> Xanadu, you mean you've tried to remove ACPI bugs with intel bios compiler ?
[12:23] <Seveas> fango, I recommend (swap + mem) == at least 768
[12:23] <Jalsdjk> Seveas: ah ok
[12:23] <Xanadu> fryfrog i don't think there are any breezy backports yet because it's currently bleeding edge.
[12:23] <Jalsdjk> question
[12:23] <Seveas> but preferably more
[12:23] <Jalsdjk> it doesn't let me edit the files :\
[12:23] <xfelon> Hi
[12:23] <Kensey> or, is there a way to extend an ext3 partition into empty space before its beginning without breaking things?
[12:23] <Jalsdjk> it allows me to overwrite them and view them..
[12:23] <Rolo> Selenium> I need to regiuster to PM you back!  DOing it now
[12:23] <fryfrog> Xanadu: ah, thanks
[12:24] <Jalsdjk> but somehow doesn't let me edit...
[12:24] <Xanadu> sobersabre i built the latest acpi from source thinking that it might help
[12:24] <foXgamer> Jalsdjk: I use gftp which allows you to edit files
[12:24] <fango> Seveas, And I can upgrade to stable when its released..
[12:24] <cafuego_> !test
[12:24] <ubotu> Passed.
[12:24] <xfelon> Instead of ordering ubuntu can i download it and burn it?
[12:24] <nalioth> Xanadu: backports are 'back ported' from the next version. hence, no backports due to no dapper
[12:24] <Seveas> fango, yes
[12:24] <cafuego_> xfelon: Yes.
[12:24] <Xanadu> sobersabre anyhow it works a charm on breezy
[12:24] <woodwizzle> How do I make totem my default CD player instead of Sound Juicer?
[12:24] <nalioth> fango: easily
[12:24] <xfelon> Where?
[12:24] <Seveas> VERY easy - it does that for you :)
[12:24] <fryfrog> mainly i am just trying to figure out a few things :)
[12:24] <fango> Seveas, coll, thanks..off I go..
[12:24] <sobersabre> LasseL, what's UP ?
[12:24] <cafuego_> xfelon: www.ubuntu.com -> right hand side (Breezy badger)
[12:24] <sobersabre> found the bastard ?
[12:24] <xfelon> ithansk
[12:24] <LasseL> sobersabre, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3002
[12:25] <phiqtion> good evening, last night i downloaded the breezy RC. and im currently in install phase 2. the problem is, every single file is downloading is giving me this error: "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: Incompatible medium installed" Ubuntu is being installed on a HP dv1340us laptop. any suggestions/opinions?
[12:25] <fango> Does anyone know will ubuntuguide be done to mirror breezy as it is for hoary?
[12:25] <Xanadu> phiqtion have you tried burning the cd again?
[12:25] <debugger> I just installed ubunto 5.04, and want to upgrade to 5.10, is there a way of only installing the package ubuntu-minimal?
[12:25] <Seveas> fango, i hope ubuntuguide will be gone
[12:25] <afaik> thanks ubuntu
[12:25] <afaik> for the broken box you gave me
[12:26] <Seveas> ubuntu has a good faq now while ubuntuguide is crap
[12:26] <fango> Seveas, I was quite happy with it when I started with Ubuntu
[12:26] <afaik> firefox crashes more than IE ever did on me
[12:26] <afaik> only on ubuntu
[12:26] <nalioth> fango: do you have prior linux experience?
[12:26] <foXgamer> afaik: You using breezy?
[12:26] <fryfrog> debugger: if you switch to the breezy repository, then do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it would update no?
[12:26] <LasseL> sobersabre, there are no timings on but I *think* it took a long time between line 21 and 23
[12:26] <Seveas> afaik, if you come here just to rant, please leave or file bugs.
[12:26] <phiqtion> Xanadu, why burn the cd again? it's currently on install phase 2. which it isn't using any CD at all.
[12:27] <Kira> selinium: I didn't mean the channel topic. I meant the list of triggers for ubotu.
[12:27] <fango> nalioth, bits and pieces, maybe approaching halfway between newb and intermediate
[12:27] <nalioth> ubotu tell Kira about ubotu
[12:27] <debugger> fryfrog, yes it will.  but I want to have a minimal install o ubuntu, and just saw the "ubuntu-minimal", so I though it would be nice to install that instead of ubuntu-base.
[12:27] <meirm_> sorry if you already answered me,what tv viewer is available from the apt for Breezy Badger?
[12:27] <cwillu_> I'm doing a dist-upgrade... is there any way I can tell it to overwrite all config files?
[12:27] <Rolo> So... can anyone tell me what to do with this winmac fstab file?
[12:28] <nalioth> fango: the ubuntuguide has info in it that WILL kill an ubuntu box, if not understood
[12:28] <Seveas> ubotu, tell nalioth about yourself
[12:28] <Seveas> (just to show that cool feature :))
[12:28] <nalioth> Rolo: read it in your text editor
[12:28] <[LethAL] > rofl Seveas
[12:28] <Xanadu_> oops, i died - did i miss anything?
[12:28] <foXgamer> merim: There are many programs that will alow you to watch tv. xine is supposed to be good
[12:28] <phiqtion> Xanadu, why burn the cd again? it's currently on install phase 2. which it isn't using any CD at all.
[12:28] <Kira> nalioth: thanks
[12:28] <sobersabre> LasseL, you can repeat the exercise, when running a little script with infinit loop of running date each 10 seconds in the background..
[12:28] <Xanadu_> phiqtion what was the error again?
[12:29] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell me about seveas
[12:29] <batoms> does any else here login to their ubuntu machine using winbind via pam
[12:29] <phiqtion> Xanadu_, good evening, last night i downloaded the breezy RC. and im currently in install phase 2. the problem is, every single file is downloading is giving me this error: "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: Incompatible medium installed" Ubuntu is being installed on a HP dv1340us laptop. any suggestions/opinions?
[12:29] <Trashcan> lol seveas
[12:29] <sobersabre> LasseL, but have you configured cups ?
[12:29] <[LethAL] > !tell me about Trashcan
[12:29] <meirm_> foxgamer: xine is not in the apt sources for the  Breezy Badger
[12:29] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:29] <batoms> when i first start my machine there is a delay before winbind can resolve my login
[12:29] <Seveas> bot playing in private chat or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:29] <Rolo> nalioth> oh my word, thank you, that was easy :>
[12:29] <foXgamer> meirm: Try gxine. That is in there. It is for gnome though
[12:29] <Trashcan> hey lethal :)
[12:29] <cwillu_> "apt-get dist-upgrade"  Is there some way I can tell it to overwrite config files so I can leave this thing to run?
[12:29] <Rolo> nalioth> sorry, they just looked like comments when I skimmed them...
[12:30] <LasseL> sobersabre, not really sure, I did 2 installs on my first weekend with ubuntu a few months back and I don't remember if it was in the first or second one I configured the printer :)
[12:30] <nalioth> Rolo: comments in shell scripts can be informative
[12:30] <Rolo> nalioth> so I see...
[12:30] <phiqtion> good evening, last night i downloaded the breezy RC. and im currently in install phase 2. the problem is, every single file is downloading is giving me this error: "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: Incompatible medium installed" Ubuntu is being installed on a HP dv1340us laptop. any suggestions/opinions?
[12:30] <sobersabre> LasseL, the configuration of the printer or disabling printing system seems the solution
[12:31] <Xanadu_> phiqtion that's way beyond me i'm afraid - I suggest u report it as a bug. I did manage to install breezy with a busted CD tho. Did u try restart the install?
[12:31] <foXgamer> phiqtion: It sounds like the incorrect drivers were installed for the cd drive that you are using
[12:31] <tristanmike> phiqtion, you don't have to keep posting your question, if someone can help they will, please do not flood the channel
[12:31] <LasseL> can anyone come up with a good oneliner that will pipe the current time to a file every second?
[12:31] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : <3 =)
[12:31] <[LethAL] > ?
[12:31] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Sup?
[12:31] <phiqtion> tristanmike, i am not flooding the channel. i am re-posting
[12:31] <sobersabre> LasseL, to disable the cups run: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[12:31] <TylerDurden> seethru, are you here?
[12:32] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, This isn't topical
[12:32] <phiqtion> tristanmike, flooding is 3 lines per second
[12:32] <Xanadu_> LasseL put it in cron
[12:32] <nnonix> Is there a specific time that breezy-final will be available or will it be "sometime" on the 13th?
[12:32] <tristanmike> phiqtion, whatever, such a large post will be seen, no need to post a few minutes apart
[12:32] <xml-blog> hi all, anyone up for helping out with a breezy upgrade problem? I am halfway through the upgrade and it errored out dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[12:32] <xml-blog> .
[12:33] <phiqtion> tristanmike, thank you for you're hard work trying to be a team member
[12:33] <nalioth> phiqtion: yes, please wait at least 5 minutes between posts of the same question
[12:33] <tristanmike> =)
[12:33] <xml-blog> i am running a gnome session but it's dying trying to update kde libs
[12:33] <Xanadu_> xml-blog - that's a network error. I'm very familiar with them due to my dodgy internet connection. Just hit update again and it will start from where it left off
[12:33] <foXgamer> xml-blog: How did you do the upgrade? Through apt-get or using the upgrade gui?
[12:33] <LasseL> sobersabre, thanks a bunch!
[12:34] <xml-blog> I already have all the packages downloaded I did apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:34] <batoms> so noone else has problems loggin into ubuntu when authorizing against winbind?
[12:34] <ice_> Hey, can anybody help me real quick?
[12:34] <LasseL> sobersabre, can you tell me which file controls what launces in the session. I get more programs launched than I can see in the gui
[12:34] <FatDarrel> hello there ?
[12:34] <xml-blog> and it says  Errors encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop....
[12:34] <Xanadu_> ice_ just ask
[12:35] <FatDarrel> i cannot loginto ubuntu by using gnome it just sits there for hours
[12:35] <ice_> :p vid driver problems
[12:35] <foXgamer> xml-blog: If you use the update gui program, you can de-select the gdk and just keep gnome updates.
[12:35] <foXgamer> ice_: What video card do you have?
[12:35] <ice_> ati radeon 9800 pro
[12:35] <ice_> I followed a guide on the ubuntu forums
[12:35] <sobersabre> LasseL, this depends on: which applets you run, and many other things.
[12:35] <Xanadu_> xml-blog does it tell you which package is broken?
[12:35] <foXgamer> ice_: And what is the exact problem? Can you get it to work at all?
[12:35] <FatDarrel> : None of the resolved addresses are writable; saving configuration settings w
[12:35] <FatDarrel> ill not be possible
[12:35] <xml-blog> fox, just to be clear I use synaptic to remove what exactly
[12:35] <cwillu_> I really want to have dist-update simply overwrite configuration files, without having to answer 'y' to each one.  Anybody got a solution?
[12:35] <sobersabre> besides there are system processes.
[12:35] <FatDarrel> that is the error i get any ideas ?
[12:36] <sobersabre> LasseL, has my suggestion helped ?
[12:36] <ice_> The video doesn't seem to work right, but I have the ati control panel icon in my applications menu
[12:36] <erUSUL> !tell ice_ about ati
[12:36] <odat> hi everyone
[12:36] <foXgamer> xml-blog: When you come to upgrade, you can go through them and de-select anything that you don't need.
[12:36] <FatDarrel> This is the strange error message I get from gconf ?? any dieas anyone -------------> #########: None of the resolved addresses are writable; saving configuration settings will not be possible
[12:36] <LasseL> sobersabre, stopping cups and moving xchat to launch last helped
[12:36] <nalioth> cwillu_: the -y argument?
[12:36] <odat> anyone have any experience with rsdp problems?
[12:36] <cwillu_> is there anyway to do that once its started?
[12:36] <shinu> anyone can tell me why when ./configuring mplayer, it doesnt see my libogg and libvorbis? (its not listed under the codecs section at the end)
[12:36] <odat> err rdsp problems lol
[12:37] <sobersabre> LasseL, cups will start the next boot. you need to remove symlinks to /etc/init.d/supsys from /etc/rc2.d/
[12:37] <xml-blog> Xanadu, it says unpacking replacement kdevelop3-data...dpkg: error trying to overwrite ddevdesigner.desktop and then shows a thousand things with unmet deps
[12:38] <Xanadu_> xml-blog u running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:38] <wptony> ...If I currently use the preview version of Breezy, will I be able to save my files when I switch to the regular version?
[12:38] <LasseL> sobersabre, no I need to go to System -> Administration -> Services and remove the checkmark next to the Printer Service :p
[12:38] <FatDarrel> need some help with gconf and the supid hostname problem ?
[12:38] <SuperTails92> wptony: if you use apt, yes
[12:38] <xml-blog> haha, currently? ubuntu. at one point I installed kubuntu-desktop (while I was still in hoary) and went back and forth trying to decide which env i liked. I settled back on gnome and it is default session, but K is still there...
[12:38] <Xanadu_> wptony the easiest way to switch is just to update through synaptic - all your files will stay the same
[12:39] <foXgamer> FatDarrel: What hostname problem do you have?
[12:39] <wptony> Xanadu: Thanks
[12:39] <sobersabre> LasseL, nice idea! do it :)
[12:39] <LasseL> you unix geeks should really learn to tell people how to solve their problems through the gui rather than the CLI (if possible)
[12:39] <foXgamer> xml-blog: Are you using breezy?
[12:39] <sobersabre> i didn't know of this :)
[12:39] <Xanadu_> xml-blog i suggest you apt-get remove kdevelop (or whatever the package name is) and try again
[12:40] <pulver> hey! 'fdisk -l' says that partition 1-4 (all of them) 'does not end on cylinder bounadry'. how bad is this? is there a fix? any ideas
[12:40] <gmjonker> Hi all - Can anyone help me with apt-get? Im getting this:
[12:40] <nekostar> oh no!
[12:40] <gmjonker> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:40] <gmjonker>   gcc-4.0: Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu6) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[12:40] <bytefoo> holy snaps :|
[12:40] <gmjonker> when trying to do apt-get install gcc-4.0
[12:40] <FatDarrel> foXgamer, well i have a ubunut install on a network
[12:40] <LasseL> gmjonker, try synaptic
[12:40] <bytefoo> evolution-exchange is using 53.4% cpu and not even running :(
[12:40] <nalioth> gmjonker: i smell unofficial repositories
[12:40] <nekostar> xchat is freezing on me.. is there to tell if there is a problem with my install of ubuntu or if its my config of xchat by chance?
[12:40] <odat> anyone able to help with rdsp problems?
[12:40] <gmjonker> LasseL: it says the same
[12:40] <selinium> is there anyway of sending an email through the command line?
[12:40] <bytefoo> and clock-applet is using 30 and 40% memory :(
[12:40] <nekostar> was working fine yesterday even
[12:41] <xml-blog> fox, in the middle of breezy upgrade. (very scary stuff. glad to have such a hard working to prevent the onset of heart-attack) Xana, I try to apt-get remove and it says broken paclages, apt-get -f install which does same thing all over
[12:41] <FatDarrel> foXgamer, anyway i think ebcause of the difference in names my gconf is acting up
[12:41] <Knorrie> selinium: mail
[12:41] <gmjonker> nalioth: im using universe and the other whats its name yes
[12:41] <Rolo> Can anyone recommend a lovely newsreader for downloading loads of stuff?
[12:41] <selinium> Knorrie: cheers!
[12:41] <Xanadu_> nekostar: it's working for me (right now in fact ;))
[12:41] <gmjonker> nalioth: is that the cause?
[12:41] <Rolo> Someone said to try Pan
[12:41] <Xanadu_> Rolo: Pan
[12:41] <nalioth> gmjonker: paste your sources.list to a pastebin please
[12:41] <xml-blog> I would paste to rafb, but firefox is hosed
[12:41] <Rolo> aha, that'll do :>
[12:41] <Knorrie> selinium: it's not so difficult :P
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gmjonker about pastebin
[12:41] <foXgamer> xml-blog: This may solve your problems. Breezy is very gnome friendly. I use it fine :)
[12:42] <Xanadu_> Rolo it's pretty good for downloading lots of binaries at once, which I think is what you're asking...
[12:42] <ice_> Hey another question. I am going to try another guide to installing my ATI drivers, is there anything I have to do to replace my previous tries?
[12:42] <Rolo> Aye, sounds right...
[12:42] <Karasu> Hi all
[12:42] <Rolo> Thanks :>
[12:42] <xml-blog> foXgamer, it's if failing *during* the upgrade to breezy. hoary was a-ok.
[12:42] <foXgamer> FatDarrel: HAve you tried backing up gconf and then making sure the names are correct.
[12:42] <FatDarrel> well i can name my computer anything i want right
[12:42] <Karasu> I need some help with ubuntu 5.10 repositorie
[12:43] <nalioth> Karasu: waht kind of help?
[12:43] <Jenocin> anyone else getting random freezes where the hd light stays on but everything is locked.. no mouse... and the hd is not being accessed. Have to cold boot
[12:43] <scribbles> I received an email attachment through Hushmail entitled "Attachment1.pgp", I've saved this file to my desktop, how do I read it? Hushmail automatically took care of decrypting the msg etc
[12:43] <foXgamer> xml-blog: hmm. I am guessing that you have already checked the possibility of a cd error?
[12:43] <Karasu> ## Backports
[12:43] <Karasu> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[12:43] <Karasu> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:43] <Karasu> how can I get those for 5.10
[12:43] <nalioth> Karasu: mirromax is no longer with us
[12:43] <xml-blog> foXgamer, not using CD. Upgrading from hoary via apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Karasu about backports
[12:43] <Xanadu_> Jenocin: No, but I suggest you check your drives because it might be a sign of a slow but steady drive crash (I had one recently - not much fun)
[12:43] <nalioth> Karasu: there are no backports for 5.10 yet
[12:44] <nalioth> Karasu: please dont paste in here
[12:44] <gleesond> my screen freezes at login screen about 3/4 of the time when I reboot how can I stop this
[12:44] <Jenocin> xanadu... pretty new harddrive... was thinking about replacing it with a 7200 rpm anyhow (laptop)
[12:44] <Knorrie> gleesond: my first guess is that it's a hardware problem
[12:44] <LasseL> it sucks that they don't even have an empty backports repo for breezy
[12:44] <foXgamer> xml-blog: Ah. I have never done that so I can't think what it could be. Unless there is a conflict between the two. Have you tried running from the prompt rather than the gui?
[12:44] <albacker> guys, i get this configure: error: Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11.
[12:44] <albacker> ... do i need to isntall libx11-dev ?
[12:44] <Jenocin> there is an empty repo
[12:44] <Xanadu_> Jenocin the new ones are the most dangerous - if it lasts 12 months then it'll probably last forever ;)
[12:45] <xml-blog> foXgamer, yes i was running from gnome-term
[12:45] <gmjonker> nalioth: how bout this: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=390623
[12:45] <LasseL> Jenocin, must be new then ... *checks*
[12:45] <nalioth> albacker: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[12:45] <xml-blog> foXgamer, scary huh?
[12:45] <Jenocin> :-P nods Yep I know, home machine is running 6 drives now
[12:45] <Jenocin> lassel was from like a week ago
[12:45] <Jenocin> was off the ubuntuforums.org
[12:45] <foXgamer> xml-blog: hehe. Does sound like it :) I mean from the prompt - actually come right out of the gui back to the prompt
[12:45] <Xanadu_> Jenocin I'm not saying that it's that - but definitely worth checking just in case. I wish I had realised earlier why my machine was running strangely
[12:45] <darkheart> nalioth What happened to mirrormax?
[12:45] <ice_> Hey another question. I am going to try another guide to installing my ATI drivers, is there anything I have to do to replace my previous tries?
[12:46] <kbrooks> darkheart: down
[12:46] <xml-blog> foXgamer, oh you mean quit X
[12:46] <nalioth> gmjonker: run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:46] <Jenocin> xanadu: yep I know, specially since it is the hitachi "deathstar" :-P figured ibm would have gotten rid of those
[12:46] <Karasu> anyone knows how to get w32codecs?
[12:46] <Xanadu_> Jenocin lol
[12:46] <darkheart> kbrooks That's it?
[12:46] <foXgamer> xml-blog: Yes. If there is a conflict with the current gnome-gui, then this should solve that problem.
[12:46] <xml-blog> foXgamer, been running linux 6 months, not that brave yet ;)
[12:46] <darkheart> Karasu sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:46] <tristanmike> !tell Karasu about w32codecs
[12:46] <kbrooks> darkheart: its down
[12:46] <xml-blog> foXgamer, will try if all else fails ;)
[12:47] <Jenocin> xanadu: figure they would at least have changed the name
[12:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Karasu about w32codecs
[12:47] <kbrooks> darkheart: yes thats it
[12:47] <nalioth> darkheart: the codecs are no longer in ubuntu repos
[12:47] <tristanmike> darkheart, the w32codecs have been removed
[12:47] <foXgamer> xml-blog: Have faith in yourself! I've only been using linux for two months. The thing to remember is that everything you do can be undone
[12:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darkheart about w32codecs
[12:47] <gmjonker> nalioth: you mean like apt-get -f install gcc-4.0?
[12:47] <wptony> ubotu: tell popcorn ping
[12:47] <nalioth> gmjonker: no i mean just what i typed
[12:47] <darkheart> What changed with the codecs?
[12:47] <kbrooks> gmjonker: thats the solution pkg. dont give it one
[12:47] <nalioth> darkheart: legalities were made clear
[12:48] <gleesond> does anyone have any suggestions where I can get an audio codec package?
[12:48] <darkheart> nalioth Hah...go figure.
[12:48] <Jenocin> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[12:48] <gmjonker> nalioth: ok i did it, it said 0 upgraded, 0 etc 0 0
[12:48] <nekostar> what is the correct useage for apt-get --purge remove package?
[12:48] <Xanadu_> gleesond which audio codec?
[12:48] <nalioth> gmjonker: now try the gcc install
[12:48] <Jenocin> what codec pac is needed for streaming wmv from websites using xine and firefox?
[12:48] <gleesond> mp3, aac, m4a
[12:48] <tristanmike> nekostar, "--purge" will remove config files too
[12:48] <selinium> nalioth: so what happens in the future for w32codecs?
[12:48] <darkheart> nekostar apt-get remove --purge <package> probably
[12:48] <sumon> need somw help
[12:48] <sumon> i cannot update anymore
[12:48] <nalioth> selinium: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[12:48] <wptony> Ubotu should really be upgraded to a Supybot - that's what mine runs off of. Sooooo much better than infobot
[12:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, wptony
[12:49] <wptony> exactly
[12:49] <xml-blog> why would trying to remove kdebase mark a bunch of gnome stuff for removal?
[12:49] <Jenocin> selenium thanks
[12:49] <nekostar> tristanmike:  lol interesting.. i used: " sudo apt-get --purge remove xchat " and it left the configs somehow....
[12:49] <TiMiDo> wptony is not infobot is blootbot
[12:49] <stinkjones> hello all
[12:49] <sumon> hello all
[12:49] <sumon> need somw help
[12:49] <sumon> i cannot update anymore
[12:49] <wptony> TiMiDo: Still, he should be upgraded
[12:49] <TiMiDo> wptony take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <nalioth> sumon: we need more info
[12:49] <cwillu> gah
[12:49] <gmjonker> nalioth: it says the same
[12:49] <wptony> Ok.....
[12:49] <Jenocin> \msg ubotu w32codecs
[12:49] <Knorrie> whats a good bittorrent app in ubuntu?
[12:50] <nalioth> gmjonker: apt-get remove gcc-4.whatever
[12:50] <SuperTails92> Knorrie: Bittornado
[12:50] <Jenocin> knorrie azerues
[12:50] <apokryphos> Knorrie: azureus, ktorrent
[12:50] <cwillu> I hate it when somebody suggests using a different window manager to solve a problem that can't be solved with the current one, and then you switch, and find the new one has _exactly_ the same problem
[12:50] <selinium> sumon: do hammer the channel, we will answer as quick as we can
[12:50] <Knorrie> whaaa :)
[12:50] <graeme> I deleted the index.html in a directory so that index.php would take over... and now apache is sending me index.html still, but with the mimetype "application/x-trash"
[12:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jenocin about w32codecs
[12:50] <cevizoglu> Jenocin, turn your slash around :    /  not   \
[12:50] <nekostar> yeah .. o well perhaps there was an instance running in memory.. thanx
[12:50] <graeme> does rm move things to the trash now?
[12:50] <gmjonker> nalioth: i now only have gcc-3.4-base and gcc-4.0-base installed
[12:50] <nalioth> gmjonker: remove the problem one
[12:50] <TiMiDo> graeme it doesn't but it does erase the files
[12:50] <tarzeau> graeme: no, and it never should
[12:50] <gmjonker> nalioth: i cant remove those because then it 'll remove other apps as well
[12:51] <nalioth> graeme: nope, rm removes forever
[12:51] <graeme> tarzeau, I agree! so why would i still have this 'trash' file around?
[12:51] <selinium> sumon: what are you running hoary or breezy? what did you do that made it stop?
[12:51] <cevizoglu> how do I disable eth0 permanently?
[12:51] <Xanadu> graeme have you set apache to look for index.php?
[12:51] <stinkjones> i had a question about the ubuntu live cd. I was wondering whether i could browse my windows disk when i boot into ubuntu. It is NTFf
[12:51] <tarzeau> graeme: no idea
[12:51] <graeme> Xanadu, yah, it looks for it as normal.
[12:51] <funkyHat> is libdvdcss2 in breezy-extras?
[12:51] <gmjonker> nalioth: o wait that's not true... just a sec
[12:52] <xml-blog> wow all my apps going bye bye. if I wind up without x (and therefore without xchat) what should I install to get a base gnome system running again?
[12:52] <Knorrie> cevizoglu: remove eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces
[12:52] <keffynd> hey gang, does anyone here have a Geforce 6800GT PCIx?
[12:52] <graeme> Xanadu, it looks for index.php in all other dir's.
[12:52] <graeme> it's just this one that's causing me pain.
[12:52] <tristanmike> nekostar, that's because it's "remove --purge" not "--purge remove"
[12:52] <nalioth> graeme: gnome and kde maintain their own trash files/directories
[12:52] <selinium> xml-blog: use irssi to fire up irc on command line
[12:52] <foXgamer> funkyHat: No. libdvdcss is not in any of the repositories. You will have to find it on the net.
[12:52] <Kira> keffynd: nVidia's linux driver doesn't work for you?
[12:52] <cwillu> and so we start again.  Does anybody know of a way to specify the delay before a window is _activated_ (not _raised_) when using focus-follows-mouse?
[12:52] <sockpuppe1> hello all
[12:52] <stinkjones> also, is there any windows utility for writing an img file to a disk, like dd in linux? that would make my life a whole lot easier
[12:52] <ompscht> hello sockpuppe1
[12:53] <Xanadu> graeme it sounds like an apache problem more than an ubuntu problem - if it moved the file to trash apache wouldn't see it because it would be in another non-www directory
[12:53] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, rawrite
[12:53] <sockpuppe1> anyone here have skype installed
[12:53] <nalioth> stinkjones: rawwrite
[12:53] <selinium> hello sockpuppe1
[12:53] <stinkjones> thanks
[12:53] <sumon> selinium , hoary
[12:53] <funkyHat> foXgamer, ubotu states that it is in hoary-extras :P
[12:53] <xml-blog> thanks selinium!
[12:53] <Xanadu> sockpuppel yes
[12:53] <nekostar> tristanmike: thanx a lot! i knew i had to have gotten it wrong somehow,, lol :)
[12:53] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, rawritewin if you want a gui
[12:53] <graeme> Xanadu, does apache keep caches of such things?
[12:53] <stinkjones> lol i've been downloading cracks for ghost, drive image and a bunch of other crap i didn't need for days
[12:53] <scopecrp> any apache(2) gurus around?
[12:53] <sockpuppe1> hello selenium
[12:53] <foXgamer> funkyHat: hmm. Do you have all the repositories selected?
[12:53] <nalioth> scopecrp: try #apache
[12:53] <xml-blog> will apt-get install ubuntu-desktop get me a running gnome sys?
[12:53] <NoUse> xml-blog installing ubuntu-desktop should bring you back up
[12:53] <Xanadu> grame it shouldn't unless you're running some kind of funny version
[12:53] <nekostar> :)
[12:53] <nalioth> xml-blog: it should
[12:53] <funkyHat> foXgamer, it's not for me
[12:53] <selinium> xml-blog: you will need to /server irc.freenode.com to log onto the server you should konw the rest
[12:53] <Seveas> scopecrp, asking your question usualy has more effect
[12:54] <Xanadu> graeme have u tried apachectl restart?
[12:54] <Knorrie> scopecrp: apache 1.3
[12:54] <Xanadu> graeme or apache2ctl restart for apache2
[12:54] <gmjonker> nalioth: i'll try 'force version' in synaptic
[12:54] <selinium> scopecrp: what is the prob
[12:54] <cevizoglu> Knorrie: thx
[12:54] <graeme> Xanadu, well, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:54] <xml-blog> NoUse, nalioth, selinium, thanks
[12:54] <woodwizzle> anyone running mythtv?
[12:54] <Knorrie> cevizoglu: np
[12:54] <sockpuppe1> xanandu I get this error when trying to install about libqt3c102-mt
[12:54] <graeme> Xanadu, but yah.
[12:54] <scopecrp> Can anyone tell me why apache2/php5 is writing <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> on all of my pages?  its breaking my xhtml
[12:54] <selinium> xml-blog: np
[12:54] <sockpuppe1> mine is like3.3.3.3
[12:54] <gmjonker> nalioth: mmm doesnt work either
[12:54] <sockpuppe1> but it needs 3.3.3.2
[12:55] <meuserj|work> ompscht, I've never had a problem with bittorrent in Ubuntu
[12:55] <Xanadu> graeme is there not another file in the directory that's also one of the defaults before index.php?
[12:55] <selinium> scopecrp: go to #apache
[12:55] <sockpuppe1> any way that I can fix that?
[12:55] <nalioth> gmjonker: same error?
[12:55] <stinkjones> wait rawrite will not work for what i am trying to do
[12:55] <SuperTails92> Is it safe to do a piecemeal upgrade to Breezy by installing/upgrading metapackages one by one?
[12:55] <stinkjones> it only works with floppies not hard disks
[12:55] <selinium> sumon: what did you do before it stopped>
[12:55] <selinium> ?
[12:55] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, oh... what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:55] <jack-> question: if i just exchange the motherboard (+gfx card) of my ubuntu pc, what do i need to run to reconfigure the stuff properly? (supposed it still boots)
[12:56] <sumon> selinium , didn't do anything
[12:56] <graeme> Xanadu, not at all, it's all cleaned out.
[12:56] <propagandhi> scopecrp: I've never seen apache do that by default, it will normally only add that tag if theres no valid header, are you leaving an empty line at the top of your files
[12:56] <stinkjones> i have an .img file (of a certain os installed) that i want to write to a hard drive
[12:56] <selinium> sumon: what error do you get?
[12:56] <MRBossman> I did not know it would be so hard to find a linux ftp client that supports ssl behind a nat device
[12:56] <jack-> ..is that a good idea at all, or should i just start from scratch?
[12:56] <foXgamer> SuperTails92: I wouldn't suggest it.  We've just had someone who is having problems by doing that
[12:56] <primoturbo> Is there a program that can tell me which folders are using what percentage of space?
[12:56] <Trashcan> ooh
[12:56] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, what program was used to create the img?
[12:56] <sockpuppe1> would anyone here know how I could fix that?
[12:56] <MRBossman> all the linux clients wants you to do port redirection
[12:56] <Seveas> primoturbo, baobab
[12:56] <Trashcan> i wanna answer stink's question
[12:56] <Trashcan> i'm gonna guess here
[12:56] <nalioth> primoturbo: xdiskusage
[12:56] <propagandhi> scopecrp: for example, if i write a php file but leave an empty line before my first PHP tag it will do that, and it messes with PHP too
[12:56] <MRBossman> that sucks
[12:56] <stinkjones> i know how you can use dd to do this in linux, but if i could do this from windows it would be easier for me
[12:57] <scopecrp> propagandhi, ive tried specifying the content-type with php to override it but still no joy
[12:57] <foXgamer> MRBossman: Have you tried gftp?
[12:57] <Trashcan> dd if=theimage of=/dev/thehdd
[12:57] <scopecrp> propagandhi, ill check that thanks
[12:57] <jack-> mrbossman, use iglooftp-pro with pasv mode
[12:57] <jack-> problem solved
[12:57] <stinkjones> the img was created with VM Ware.
[12:57] <ericz> hey, i have windows xp sp2, and a cd burner, and a blank cd, what program should i use to burn the breezy badger install iso to it? since the cd needs to be bootable and all?
[12:57] <jack-> foxgamer: gftp sucks with auth tls
[12:57] <stinkjones> i may or may not have downloaded it as a torrent to run osx86
[12:57] <gmjonker> nalioth: yeah... it has to do with this gcc-4.0-base. its version 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 while all the other gcc-blabla packages are still 4.0.1-4ubuntu6...
[12:57] <rc55> What install option do I use to skip network config / apt-update?
[12:57] <sumon> selinium , http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:57] <Trashcan> ericz: did your burner come with nero?
[12:57] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, oh.. I know what you are trying to do.. Mac OSX on intel hardware
[12:57] <stinkjones> lol
[12:57] <nalioth> gmjonker: remove all gcc 4 stuff
[12:58] <ericz> no
[12:58] <stinkjones> yes, exactly
[12:58] <nalioth> sumon: mirromax is dead
[12:58] <Trashcan> lol meuserj|work
[12:58] <Trashcan> nice
[12:58] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, you must use vmware for that to work
[12:58] <MRBossman> yeah and glubftp does not work behind a nat devices
[12:58] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell sumon about backports
[12:58] <ericz> trashcan, no, no nero
[12:58] <Trashcan> ouch
[12:58] <SuperTails92> ericz: any program that can burn ISO images as data discs
[12:58] <jack-> told ya. iglooftp-pro.
[12:58] <Trashcan> aye
[12:58] <sockpuppe1> xanadu gave any ideas
[12:58] <Xanadu_> darn my link died again
[12:58] <sockpuppe1> ?
[12:58] <ericz> i don't know of any programs
[12:58] <stinkjones> i can run it in vm ware, but writing that damn img file to a hard disk is harder than it sounds
[12:58] <nalioth> hate tab completion
[12:58] <ericz> can you suggest one
[12:58] <ericz> ?
[12:58] <gmjonker> nalioth: i cant... if i remove the gcc-4.0-base, it says it has to remove twenty other programs as well
[12:58] <Trashcan> i use nero, i believe BlindWrite can do it too
[12:58] <Seveas> Xanadu, yes
[12:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sumon about backports
[12:58] <xml-blog> man, recurring nightmare! error trying to overwrite /usr/share/mono/../../stuff/... which is also in package mono-mcs subprocess paste killed by signal
[12:58] <MRBossman> iglooftp crashed on ubuntu
[12:58] <Xanadu_> sockpuppel go to http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=169829&highlight=
[12:58] <MRBossman> for some reason
[12:58] <nalioth> gmjonker: paste your 'will remove bleh' to a pastebin
[12:58] <Xanadu_> sockpuppel the info is about halfway down the page
[12:58] <jack-> mrbossman: you did something wrong then
[12:59] <MRBossman> when I run it and connect to my server
[12:59] <sockpuppe1> will do xanadu
[12:59] <scopecrp> propagandhi, there are no blank lines at the top of any of the files...  if it matters im using xslt to generate the html
[12:59] <MRBossman> it connects then the gui just drops out
[12:59] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, right... the image is specific to vmware.. only it can understand it
[12:59] <MRBossman> if I connect to a site that doe4s not have tls/ssl it runs
[12:59] <stinkjones> i see\
[12:59] <jack-> nalioth: exchanging the motherboard and booting = good idea? or should i install ubuntu again?
[12:59] <propagandhi> scopecrp: test it by creating a php file that just has <?php echo "TESTING"; ?> at the first line
[12:59] <stinkjones> i'll have to use linux then
[12:59] <jack-> from p2 to athlon..
[01:00] <MRBossman> but connect to work and that thing will crash everytime
[01:00] <stinkjones> there is a tutorial for writing the data using the dd command
[01:00] <Jenocin> backports at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[01:00] <gmjonker> nalioth: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=390636
[01:00] <MRBossman> I was willing to purchase it
[01:00] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, ah, well you can use a livecd if you don't want to install linux
[01:00] <stinkjones> i know
[01:00] <MRBossman> but I emailed tech support about the issue 2 weeks ago and no reply yet from igloo
[01:00] <stinkjones> i guess i'll do that
[01:00] <stinkjones> can ubuntu read windows formatted (ntfs) partitions
[01:00] <stinkjones> ?
[01:01] <Jenocin> whats the best app to make a hd disc image?
[01:01] <MRBossman> to bad flashfxp does not support linux
[01:01] <Jenocin> stinkjones yes
[01:01] <Xanadu_> stinkjones: yes
[01:01] <meuserj|work> stinkjones, read, but not write
[01:01] <nalioth> ubotu tell stinkjones about ntfs
[01:01] <gmjonker> nalioth: i guess its like it says 'some packages have not yet been created'...
[01:01] <scopecrp> propagandhi, i just tested, and even with a blank line its not adding the content-type...  very odd
[01:01] <Jenocin> meuser: sorta write
[01:01] <stinkjones> only readeh?
[01:01] <scopecrp> propagandhi, i guess its related to xsl
[01:01] <jack-> mrbossman: get pftp
[01:01] <stinkjones> they should work fine\
[01:01] <meuserj|work> Jenocin, if you are suicidal about your data....
[01:01] <stinkjones> that*
[01:01] <Jenocin> stinkjones writing is touchy
[01:01] <nalioth> gmjonker: pastebin what it says when you try to remove gcc 4 all
[01:01] <jack-> that one is free and works 100%
[01:01] <Jenocin> meuser they are getting better
[01:01] <nalioth> gmjonker: i want to see the pkgs it wants to remove
[01:01] <MRBossman> well no harm in looking at another one
[01:01] <MRBossman> let me look at pftp
[01:02] <jack-> not the pftp in the repos though
[01:02] <jack-> google for pftp-mew
[01:02] <meuserj|work> Jenocin, I just use fat32 for everything in windows.. ntfs doesn't give me enought of a benefit to merit the interoperablity headaches
[01:02] <jack-> should be somewhere at tanesha.net
[01:02] <stinkjones> well thanks for your help guys
[01:02] <MRBossman> does it support tls/ssl
[01:03] <debugger> I've upgraded to breeze, but now eth0 is not configured by dhcp, how can I fix this?
[01:03] <jack-> yes
[01:03] <Knorrie> bittorrent wont work here either,
[01:03] <MRBossman> ok
[01:03] <Jenocin> meuser I use ntfs / vfat / and ext3
[01:03] <debugger> /etc/network/interfaces has eth0 with dhcp, but it does not work :(
[01:03] <cevizoglu> are there any free (as in speech) tools for ubuntu to open the mac standard dmg format?  or projects starting to do so?
[01:03] <Jenocin> ntfs does have some advantages
[01:03] <Xanadu_> debugger: system->admin->networking
[01:03] <cafuego_> debugger: Remove the line that maps eth0 to hotplug.
[01:03] <debugger> Xanadu, I only have shell.
[01:03] <ericz> offtopic but anyone know where i can get nero to burn an iso?
[01:04] <foXgamer> debugger: Look for a network interface program. There's one with gnome that allows you to turn dhcp on and off
[01:04] <gmjonker> nalioth: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=390638
[01:04] <cevizoglu> ericz, nero isn't free... why not try it with cygwin?  ;)
[01:04] <foXgamer> ericz: HAve you tried k3d?
[01:04] <ericz> ....never heard of k3d
[01:05] <jack-> nalioth: can i exchange my motherboard and gfx card, and continue using my old hoary?
[01:05] <cafuego_> ericz: Recorder -> Burn Image
[01:05] <ericz> where can i get nero, im not really concerned with whether its free
[01:05] <jack-> or should i install it again?
[01:05] <debugger> cafuego_, then I should reboot?  isn't there a command to restart this?  maybe /etc/init.d/networking ?
[01:05] <foXgamer> ericz: Give it a look, it allows you to burn iso images simply and quickly
[01:05] <propagandhi> k3b
[01:05] <xml-blog> ok i have a very specific error now, trying to remove mono-devel and friends. I get unmet deps on mono-common. it wants 1.1.7....ubp1 (looks like backports) but some other version to be installed. so if i try to downgrade the package to the version it wants (so that I can remove it) it can't find the package. I removed the backports from sources.list and now don't have a working browser to go google it for myself. I can't go forward or bac
[01:05] <xml-blog> kwards. any suggestions?
[01:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gmjonker about sources
[01:05] <keffynd> anyone here have a Geforce 6800GT PCIx?
[01:05] <Xanadu_> debugger your eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces should look something like "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[01:06] <keffynd> I cant get mine to do dual screen
[01:06] <xml-blog> ubotu: tell me about backports
[01:06] <debugger> Xanadu_, it does.  but it also had a hotplug line like cafuego_ said.
[01:06] <tristanmike> --help
[01:06] <nalioth> gmjonker: i'm at a loss. i suspect unofficial repos have been used in the past and have put unofficial debs into your box
[01:06] <tristanmike> woops
[01:06] <jack-> :(
[01:06] <Xanadu_> debugger after that you should have as little stuff as possible - just "network" and "broadcast" if you're not getting any joy with just the iface line
[01:06] <Knorrie> debugger: yes, /etc/init.d/networking restart, or ifconfig eth0 down; ifup eth0
[01:07] <foXgamer> wb ice_
[01:07] <ice_> :D thx
[01:07] <debugger> Knorrie, networking restart did not work (eG: it didn't run the dhcp client)
[01:08] <Xanadu_> debugger do you have the dhcp client installed? (Should be installed by default)
[01:08] <debugger> Knorrie, ifup eth0 worked. thx :)
[01:08] <Knorrie> debugger: yeah
[01:08] <gmjonker> nalioth: thanks anyway. do you think it will sort itself out in time? like if the other packages get up to date again?
[01:08] <khermans> Apaches is not protecting my directory, even though I have .htaccess and .htpasswd set and AllowOverride All, anyone have toruble shooting steps?
[01:08] <debugger> Xanadu, yup. its installed.
[01:08] <cafuego_> debugger: Mine started working again automagically when I trashed the hotplug line.
[01:09] <flora> anyone use ubuntu on a laptop with a docking station and external monitor?
[01:09] <Xanadu_> debugger is it working now?
[01:09] <flora> i can't get mine to groove
[01:09] <debugger> Xanadu, yup :)
[01:09] <nalioth> gmjonker: if you dont enable unofficial repos to let more non-ubuntu pkgs in, it should correct itself
[01:09] <sobersabre> flora, which machine ?
[01:09] <Knorrie> khermans: look in /var/log/apache/error_log
[01:09] <Xanadu_> debugger kewl, gj Knorrie
[01:09] <flora> dell d610
[01:09] <nalioth> gmjonker: are you using hoary or breezy?
[01:09] <Knorrie> Xanadu_: gj?
[01:09] <debugger> Xanadu, what if "gj"?
[01:09] <Xanadu_> good job
[01:10] <debugger> err what is
[01:10] <debugger> ah :)
[01:10] <Knorrie> Xanadu_: :)
[01:10] <Jenocin> anyone know where suspend went in breezy.. I had it in the logout... then I didn't then I did then I didn't :-P last couple updates
[01:10] <sobersabre> hmm...  no idea. there can be problem to work with CRT with linux if it were booted with LCD.
[01:10] <sobersabre> you should boot with CRT.
[01:10] <gmjonker> nalioth: breezy. actually what you say makes sense. I had some other repo's... and couldn't resist the balloon tempting me to upgrade all... i guess then is when it happened, what you said.
[01:12] <xml-blog> how does one nuke a package off the system? trying to remove mono-devel gripes about needing libmono-1.1.7 trying to install said lib says no installation candidate
[01:12] <khermans> Knorrie, nothing in there
[01:12] <Karasu> how do I install "auto" deb package?
[01:12] <khermans> Knorrie, I don't see anything out of the ordinary
[01:12] <gmjonker> nalioth: ok you're saying it came in via non-ubuntu packages... ill see if i can see where it went wrong. thanks a lot!
[01:13] <Xanadu_> Jenocin suspend.sh used to be in /etc/acpi/ I think, but now it seems to have dissapeared :(
[01:13] <nalioth> gmjonker: are you using hoary or breezy?
[01:14] <stiff> hi i'm using ubuntu 5.04, and i can't find out where to use apt-get
[01:14] <Jenocin> xanadu: seen it in the gnome-power-manager... can suspend.. can't figure how to get it to unsuspend :-P
[01:14] <Xanadu_> stiff what do you mean by "where"?
[01:14] <debugger> hummm, the kernel that is bundled with breeze doesn't not output/list the devices/hardware names that it finds at boot time, is there a way of reactivating that?
[01:14] <Karasu> how do I install "auto" deb package?
[01:14] <GNULinuxGeek> Hello all
[01:14] <Jenocin> xanadu the one in logout worked fine b4
[01:15] <Xanadu_> Jenocin you on breezy?
[01:15] <nalioth> Karasu: what is that? have an example URL?
[01:15] <GNULinuxGeek> I have two questions tonight
[01:15] <Jenocin> xanadu yep
[01:15] <stiff> Xanadu, i never had to use it to install packages. so it should be one of the apps?
[01:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell clawson about apt-get
[01:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stiff about apt-get
[01:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stiff about synaptic
[01:15] <debugger> ouch... breeze freezes vmware on reboot :/
[01:15] <xml-blog> ok, one more easy question sorry... is there any way i can install a *clean* ubuntu over my existing hosed sys and just recover my files? I know this sounds windowsy but i'm falling back to comfort zone
[01:15] <GNULinuxGeek> One, has anyone gotten Brezzy to work on AMD54 with an AC97 soundcard/chip?
[01:16] <Xanadu_> debugger i haven't been able to get vmware to work on breezy yet either
[01:16] <Xanadu_> xml-blog: back up first!
[01:16] <Jenocin> gnulinuxgeek: haven't had a chance to try it on my x2 yet
[01:16] <xml-blog> Xanadu, nothing works but gnome-term and x-chat ;)
[01:16] <debugger> Xanadu, I running vmware on windows, and inside it I run breeze.  it boots and all, but now I've tried the first reboot, and it borked.
[01:16] <Jenocin> xanadu: whats the best way to back up a disk? dd?
[01:17] <xml-blog> Xanadu, ok exaggeration but not by much
[01:17] <Xanadu_> Jenocin it depends on what you're backing up to
[01:17] <jeff_> Jenocin: rdiff-backup
[01:17] <cafuego_> GNULinuxGeek: Mine works with nforce3 ac97 sound (snd_intel8x0)
[01:17] <Jenocin> xanadu: would like to either do usb or network
[01:17] <Jenocin> xanadu: possible cdr
[01:17] <Xanadu_> Jenocin I use rsync and back up to another pc
[01:17] <debugger> odd, the network is not bring up on reboot :/
[01:18] <gmjonker> nalioth: breezy
[01:18] <Jenocin> xanadu: can u rsync to a windows box?
[01:18] <Xanadu_> debugger add "auto eth0" to the bottom of the /etc/network/interface file
[01:18] <xml-blog> how does one recover gksudo ?
[01:18] <Seveas> recover?
[01:18] <selinium> Jenocin: if you install rsync on the windows box
[01:18] <xml-blog> it's gone
[01:18] <Xanadu_> Jenocin yeah - it's basically just a file copier but it checks whether the file is there already and if it's change
[01:18] <Jenocin> xmlblog :reinstall maybe :-P
[01:18] <jeff_> xml-blog: apt-get install -reinstall gksudo I think
[01:18] <xml-blog> and apt-get doesn't have a clue
[01:18] <MRBossman> Jack you ever got a ftp sll client to work in ubuntu
[01:18] <MRBossman> ?
[01:18] <Seveas> xml-blog, the package is gksu
[01:19] <MRBossman> it is going on 2 weeks with this same problem
[01:19] <cafuego_> !find gksudo
[01:19] <Xanadu_> Jenocin so if you mount the windowz share as a directory u shouldn't have a problem
[01:19] <BradZ> Surely ndiswrapper on PPC won't allow me to install the Windows broadcom 4306 drivers??
[01:19] <Seveas> MRBossman, places-> connect to server
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'gksudo' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/gksudo) in admin/gksu.
[01:19] <MRBossman> pftp will not even compile
[01:19] <Jenocin> xanadu: I will check into it thanks, what about to a usb mounted on the same machine?
[01:19] <Seveas> or gftp from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:19] <MRBossman> ?
[01:19] <GNULinuxGeek> Can I upgrade 5.04 to 5.10?
[01:19] <sorush20> is there a newer and better version of the hotplug system or not..
[01:19] <cafuego_> GNULinuxGeek: yes
[01:19] <xiaogil> synaptics can't download the update of evolution, is it a know bug ?
[01:19] <daxxar> How do I set my WM? (:
[01:19] <xiaogil> known
[01:19] <Chinaman> how do i delete alsa completely?
[01:20] <ubuntu_> pretty busy in here
[01:20] <jeff_> Chinaman: It is in the kernel, you don't
[01:20] <xml-blog> thanks folks sorry to be such a dumbass i feel like a terrible noob.  it won't let me install gksu complaining about all the other borked stuff
[01:20] <Xanadu_> Jenocin should work fine. Just google for rsync backup - there are some nice little scripts that will help you out online that i used to make a batch file that backed up what i wanted
[01:20] <Chinaman> no, i need to reset my alsa
[01:20] <xml-blog> i will try some more experiments for a bit
[01:20] <Chinaman> something died yesterday
[01:20] <Seveas> xml-blog, hmm, paste the complete output on the pastebin please
[01:20] <cafuego_> xiaogil: No, it's a feature. synaptics is a touchpad driver. Did you mean 'synaptic' ?
[01:20] <nalioth> BradZ: ndiswrapper doesnt work on ppc
[01:20] <Jenocin> xanadu: already in the process on ubuntuforums and google :-P
[01:20] <xiaogil> cafuego_ : yes
[01:20] <xiaogil> cafuego_ : on breezy
[01:20] <xml-blog> ubotu tell me about pastebin
[01:21] <cafuego_> xiaogil: Worked fine here. Try a different mirror.
[01:21] <Chinaman> meh, i'll just wait till breezy
[01:21] <debugger> Xanadu, that worked. thx :)
[01:21] <Xanadu_> debugger kewl
[01:21] <debugger> Xanadu_, now, gonna try gnome 2.12 hehe
[01:21] <Xanadu_> debugger it rockz
[01:22] <xiaogil> cafuego_: trying a different mirror means edit sources.list :(
[01:22] <Trashcan> anyone have a quick guide to setting up connection sharing (a nat)?
[01:22] <daxxar> No nice gui to set default windowmanager to e.g. fluxbox? ;)
[01:22] <cafuego_> Seveas: Only 2/3 day until the 13th here
[01:22] <Seveas> Trashcan, apt-get install firestarter
[01:22] <Trashcan> i have it
[01:22] <Xanadu_> Trashcan I do it the easy lazy way and use firestarter
[01:22] <Seveas> it has the magic button
[01:22] <cafuego_> xiaogil: Yes, so?
[01:22] <xml-blog> Seveas, pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3003
[01:22] <Xanadu_> Trashcan then just run the wizard and it'll work
[01:22] <quendi> just a question, should i use the ubuntu provided nvidia drivers or the ones found in nvidia.com
[01:22] <Trashcan> alright
[01:22] <Seveas> cafuego_, I'm taking noon UTC as release time
[01:22] <Xanadu_> Trasjcam (in theory ;))
[01:22] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:22] <cafuego_> quendi: Just use the provided ones.
[01:22] <xiaogil> cafuego_: ok, what mirror do you use ? i'll try it
[01:22] <Trashcan> will try :)
[01:23] <cafuego_> xiaogil: au.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:23] <Kris_k> okay damn thing keeps killing it at installing netcfg
[01:23] <Karasu> where can I get libdivx4linux
[01:23] <Seveas> xml-blog, ah you f*ed up using backports
[01:23] <FatDarrel> hello
[01:23] <Seveas> xml-blog, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin too
[01:23] <xml-blog> sev, yes indeed
[01:23] <Xanadu_> quendi the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com are really tricky to install. Unless you need good 3d performance i suggest u stick with the ubuntu stuff
[01:23] <spet3882_> hello, nunca usei o irc... o que ele tem de melhor?
[01:23] <spet3882_> eu sou noob
[01:24] <spet3882_> hauahau
[01:24] <quendi> allright will for now
[01:24] <Seveas> spet3882_, stick to english in here please
[01:24] <cafuego_> Xanadu_: The ubuntu ones are the same as the nvidia ones. Why would they make ANY differnce in performance?
[01:24] <selinium> Seveas: I take it the backports for Breezy are a bit hit and miss?
[01:24] <Seveas> selinium, backports are miss and miss
[01:24] <cafuego_> !pt
[01:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:24] <rob_p> Trashcan:  ICS howto for Ubuntu with NAT script:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[01:24] <Slaj_R> question:  when synaptic first loads, I get a series of "couldn't stat source package list" errors.  What do I need?
[01:24] <xiaogil> cafuego_: ok i'll try to check that in austalia, thanx
[01:24] <xml-blog> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3004
[01:24] <Xanadu_> cafuego_ I haven't tried the more Breezy ones, but on Hoary they made a world of difference for me
[01:24] <spet3882_> sorry... I never used irc... what is advantages?
[01:24] <xiaogil> australia
[01:25] <cafuego_> Slaj_R: click 'Reload'.
[01:25] <Jenocin> xanadu: rsync gives me a few ideas but what about complete partitions? want to clone some drives :-P
[01:25] <GoClick> We have a machine with 10 or so accounts on it, and we have a file that we want 2 people to be able to RW and 2 people to be able to R and the other 6 people to not be able to do anything.
[01:25] <GNULinuxGeek> Is the upgrade done by changing repositories or by using the install CD?
[01:25] <flora> apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy went very badly on one of my laptops
[01:25] <GoClick> You can clone a drive using dd
[01:25] <xml-blog> Seveas, just added the bp trying to get libmono-1.1.7 so i could remove mono-devel, so i could remove kde, so i could upgrade to breezy
[01:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GNULinuxGeek about upgrade2breezy
[01:25] <flora> gnome-volume-manager crashed during, then after reboot it won't load X
[01:25] <Seveas> xml-blog, grab the correct sources.list for breezy from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[01:25] <xml-blog> lol
[01:26] <Jenocin> goclick was looking at that, but was hoping not to have all the empty space too
[01:26] <Buddha|> I'm having trouble connecting two local computers via FTP.  Could someone help?
[01:26] <cafuego_> Xanadu_: On breezy I get no difference
[01:26] <Seveas> xml-blog, then do apt-get update and apt-get -f install
[01:26] <GoClick> Jenocin dd will copy all the empty zeros too
[01:26] <Seveas> if that won't work, some more magic will be needed
[01:26] <xml-blog> Seveas, trying... :)
[01:26] <xiaogil> when upgrading ubuntu, can it change automatically stuffs like my background image ?
[01:26] <GoClick> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb    will clone SCSI disk A to SCSI disk B
[01:27] <Aven> hello
[01:27] <MRBossman> Seveas
[01:27] <limaunion> hi, how can i do to remove just one package without its dependencies ? anyone ?
[01:27] <Aven> when I got ubuntu, it came with xchat... (of course)
[01:27] <quendi> my int sound works but the control doesnt. it says to register with gst-register but the command wont do anything in the terminal
[01:27] <Aven> but, does anyone know where the program is located?
[01:27] <MRBossman> I have openssl on this machine
[01:27] <cafuego_> limaunion: If stuff depends on it, you can't delete it.
[01:27] <MRBossman> but gftp is telling me no go
[01:27] <bimberi> Aven: which xchat
[01:27] <MRBossman> because ssl support was not compiled in
[01:27] <bimberi> in a terminal
[01:27] <Aven> nope, not terminal
[01:27] <lsuactiafner> Aven : locate -i xchat | grep bin
[01:27] <Aven> the program
[01:27] <stinkjones> wow, i was using stubleupon extension for firefox while ubuntu downloads and i found this
[01:27] <stinkjones> http://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A10101/addsub/
[01:27] <Seveas> MRBossman, that's why I said: gftp from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:27] <stinkjones> crazy
[01:28] <Jenocin> goclick: don't want the empty zones :-P backup over network or usb 1.1
[01:28] <bimberi> Aven: dpkg -L xchat
[01:28] <NoUse> Aven run 'which xchat' in a terminal
[01:28] <Seveas> that one has ssl :)
[01:28] <GNULinuxGeek> What is upgrade2breezy?
[01:28] <MRBossman> thats where I just got it from
[01:28] <Aven> ok
[01:28] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/bin/xchat
[01:28] <Aven> it says it's in ~/.xchat
[01:28] <spet3882_> i d like to know how i know who is talking to me?
[01:28] <Aven> but I can't see it there
[01:28] <MRBossman> I did not have it installed until you pointed that out
[01:28] <lsuactiafner> which is better.. heh
[01:28] <xiaogil> how long does it generally take for a mirror to be up-to-date with the main server with ubuntu ?
[01:28] <Aven> what exactly is the dot after the / ?
[01:28] <Aven> cause I don't see it there
[01:28] <NoUse> Aven thats where it stores your user data, not the app
[01:28] <NoUse> Aven the dot makes it a hidden director
[01:28] <Aven> Ahh
[01:29] <Aven> how can I.. "un" hide it?
[01:29] <Seveas> MRBossman, odd, that one does have ssl support built in, I'm using it myself
[01:29] <limaunion> cafuego_: ok.
[01:29] <NoUse> Aven you don't
[01:29] <MRBossman> ok hmmmm
[01:29] <nalioth> spet3882_: if they are polite, they'll preface your nick when they speak to you
[01:29] <bimberi> Aven: view->show hidden files (in Nautilus)
[01:29] <Jenocin> aven ls -rtaf ?
[01:29] <MRBossman> well let me poke around
[01:29] <Aven> Ahhh
[01:29] <Xanadu> crashed out *again*!
[01:29] <Aven> there we go
[01:29] <gleesond> is there a mplayer package for debian... that I can install from the command line?
[01:29] <cafuego_> spet3882_: But if you yell in portugese, they're not likely to be polite.
[01:30] <Seveas> MRBossman, ah, Ubuntu has a newer version, so probably apt refuses to install mine
[01:30] <Seveas> hang on
[01:30] <Jenocin> aven I use ls -rtaf --color -h -l
[01:30] <Xanadu> gleesond: apt-get install mplayer
[01:30] <Aven> Jenocin: wha's that do?
[01:30] <wastrel> hello hello
[01:30] <spet3882_> is there only nerds here?
[01:30] <eraos> is there someone i can ask a few questions about dual booting
[01:30] <Jenocin> aven -rtaf lists hidden, -h human readable - l list format
[01:30] <eraos> like in a pm
[01:30] <xml-blog> Seveas, did as instructed. Failed. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3005
[01:30] <surferisback> hello
[01:30] <Aven> ah ok
[01:30] <SuperTails92> Aven, read ls' info docs.
[01:30] <goonie> I just corrupted my grub bootloader (Error 17), can someone help me, please?
[01:31] <eraos> to not confuse this main dext
[01:31] <Jenocin> aven: makes it easy to read
[01:31] <eraos> text*
[01:31] <debugger> Xanadu_, humm, ubuntu-desktop wants to install ~790 packages.... isn't there anything lighter?
[01:31] <Xanadu> guys I'm writing a review and article on Breezy for Tectonic. If anyone would like to contribute their experiences/impressions/personal involvement please /msg me
[01:31] <wastrel> can i put a #comment in to a shadow file?  /etc/shadow  ?
[01:31] <Seveas> xml-blog, use synaptic to remove *all* mono packages
[01:31] <LaserLine> What Driver should I install for an ATI Radeon 9500 PRO under Breezy ? Should I got with the 'xorg-driver-fglrx (6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu10)' Package or download the driver from ATI's website Version: 8.16.20
[01:31] <gleesond> Xanadu: it says no package found
[01:31] <xml-blog> Seveas, can't launch synaptic b/c gksu is broken ;)
[01:31] <debugger> Xanadu_, will gnome-desktop-environment do the trick?
[01:31] <Seveas> 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal
[01:31] <spet3882_> uouo... there is a lot of people here
[01:31] <cafuego_> eraos: find a bootable cd. boot it.
[01:32] <daxxar> Seriously. I feel so dense. I can\t find out how to change my WM *short of editing .xinitrc*
[01:32] <bimberi> LaserLine: use the ubuntu provided driver
[01:32] <LasseL> LaserLine, I think the driver in breezy is newer than what you say
[01:32] <Xanadu> debugger what u installing again?
[01:32] <daxxar> can't, (short of editing .xinitrc)
[01:32] <LaserLine> I just check 'packages.ubuntu.com'
[01:32] <Xanadu> gleesond it's in the universe repository
[01:32] <eraos> cafuego
[01:32] <eraos> it's more than that
[01:32] <LaserLine> LasseL are the version numbers supposed to be the same ? or Ubuntu changes the numbers?
[01:32] <cafuego_> LaserLine: The ATI website one will be a complete pain to set up. Avoid!
[01:32] <xml-blog> Seveas, you rock, i s*ck
[01:32] <eraos> i have some specific questions
[01:32] <Jenocin> daxxar: gconf
[01:32] <debugger> Xanadu, I didn't install it yet.  I just have installed ubuntu 5.04 server, then upgraded to 5.10, now I want gnome.
[01:32] <ksmurf> I'm fighting to get an usb quickcam messenger working in breezy?  any advice?
[01:32] <LaserLine> cafuego_ What's newer/better ?
[01:33] <LaserLine> bimberi What is the diffrence between the 2 ?
[01:33] <cafuego_> LaserLine: the ubuintu one is far better (even if only for your sanity)
[01:33] <cafuego_> LaserLine: ... which is why I have an nvidia card ;-)
[01:33] <LaserLine> cafuego_ are they opensource or built from ATI's source ?
[01:33] <VR^> i'm trying to resize my ext3 partition, so i booted with the livecd, ran gparted (as root) and it tells me that it cannot be done, something along the lines of, "the edvice is busy" or something
[01:33] <bimberi> bimberi: listen to cafuego_ :)
[01:33] <LaserLine> cafuego_ I preffer ATI for windows Gaming :-)
[01:33] <cafuego_> LaserLine: They're built from ATIs source.
[01:34] <Xanadu> debugger i think the path of least pain would be to wait a day and download the Breezy final, and install gnome from the CD
[01:34] <cafuego_> LaserLine: When I bought my hardware, ATI did not support amd64 (at all).
[01:34] <LasseL> LaserLine, I have  Installed: 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16
[01:34] <LasseL>  on my box
[01:34] <LaserLine> cafuego_ I have an AMD AthlonXP 2700+ it's 2 years old... when I got my card, nVidia only had the TI4200 and 4600, that had no DirectX 9 support :)
[01:35] <VR^> can anyone help me with resizing a partition, please
[01:35] <Trash[impersonat> ;) clearly it didnt' work
[01:35] <cafuego_> LaserLine: Linux doesn't do directx, so that's a moot point.
[01:35] <LaserLine> cafuego_ That brings up a point that Micro$oft didn't update DirectX for 18 Months - ACK !
[01:35] <goonie> Does someone know how to (re-)install Grub from/with the Live-CD?
[01:35] <xml-blog> Seveas is a system-saver and sanity restorer.
[01:35] <Xanadu> VR try gparted
[01:35] <LasseL> VR^, did you try gparted
[01:35] <daxxar> Jenocin, hm. What key?
[01:35] <LaserLine> cafuego_ 2 years ago I never heard of Linux ... :-) (shy)
[01:35] <Seveas> MRBossman, still here?
[01:35] <VR^> yes i did
[01:35] <stinkjones> http://www.monkeygumbo.com/wee/news/henryearl/
[01:35] <xml-blog> damn i love this community. you guys rock
[01:35] <Xanadu> VR what type of partition you got?
[01:36] <Seveas> xml-blog, I assume that that helped?
[01:36] <VR^> ext3
[01:36] <Jenocin> daxxar hold on I'll check, say it on the forums the other night
[01:36] <wastrel> what?  breezy is being released?
[01:36] <wastrel> i have to upgrade again?
[01:36] <eraos> i installed ubuntu on a hard drive...and i just put that hard drive into my system (windows) as a slave drive.. and when I use UBCD, I can't load up Ubuntu from the slave
[01:36] <wastrel> heh i just got hoary installed
[01:36] <crimsun> wastrel: not quite there.
[01:36] <xml-blog> Seveas, looks like it's picking up where the breezy upgrade left off. asking me about replaceing xorg config, etc ;)
[01:36] <Seveas> good
[01:36] <MRBossman> seveas when I reload and try to add your site it comes back and tells me no public key available
[01:36] <wastrel> this is what i get for wanting a debian that upgrades more frequently
[01:36] <bimberi> wastrel: you can enjoy hoary for 1.5 days :)
[01:36] <LaserLine> cafuego_ So I should follow this simple HowTO and expect no issues ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:36] <Seveas> MRBossman, go to my site, it has instructions on how to add the key
[01:36] <shinu> where does mplayer in ubuntu take its fonts from?
[01:37] <cafuego_> LaserLine: Well, keep your fingers crossed, but yes.
[01:37] <bimberi> (or 2/3 of a day here :) )
[01:37] <Trashcan> alright let's try this again: what IP should the local device (that the pc connects to) be assigned?
[01:37] <MRBossman> ah did not see it
[01:37] <Xanadu> VR did gparted give a reason for not working?
[01:37] <daxxar> shinu, try checking the content of the mplayer-fonts package
[01:37] <VR^> Xanadu: yes, i'm running it again so that i can write down what it said
[01:37] <Jenocin> daxxar: do you have gconf-editor?
[01:37] <Seveas> MRBossman, and in about  minute there will be a new gftp apckage
[01:37] <daxxar> Jenocin, yep.
[01:37] <LaserLine> cafuego_ Thanks ! (Can't wait till Breezy comes out) and I could Install it on my desktop... I have Hoary on a laptop...
[01:37] <shinu> daxxar: ok ill have a look at that
[01:37] <quendi> is it so that upgrading for 5.10 preview to 5.10 final will give me _exactly_ the same stuff than installing again
[01:37] <daxxar> For us running breezy-rc, we'll just have to update using the builtin tool?
[01:38] <xml-blog> if this were windows, i'd have lost everything. unreal how cool linux is. sorry for adding background noise, but i am truly ecstatic.
[01:38] <VR^> Xanadu: generally it mentioned something about not being able to apply the change to a busy partition
[01:38] <Seveas> daxxar, yes
[01:38] <nalioth> quendi: apt-get will keep your box up to date
[01:38] <Xanadu> Trashcan what do you mean?
[01:38] <rob_p> Trashcan:  Did you view the how-to?  It describes pretty much everything you need including examples of IP addresses, etc.
[01:38] <Trashcan> nope i didn't :)
[01:38] <Jenocin> daxxar /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager?
[01:38] <Trashcan> didn't know there was one
[01:38] <shinu> daxxar: that package isnt installed on my system and though mplayer still uses fonts from somewhere
[01:38] <Xanadu> VR yeah I don't think you can resize a mounted partition. Do you have a live cd?
[01:38] <Hhhhh> hello
[01:38] <Trashcan> I hoped I could figure it out. Apparently not.
[01:39] <quendi> nalioht so is there a apt-get alias for a full upgrade of the os
[01:39] <Hhhhh> hmm, question: how would you rate a stock install of ubuntu?
[01:39] <VR^> Xanadu: i'm booting from the livecd right now. i used gparted after booting from the livecd, and it still doesnt work
[01:39] <cafuego_> quendi: apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:39] <rob_p> Trashcan:  I posted a link...  hold on a sec.
[01:39] <Hhhhh> i'm a fedora guy, considering ubuntu as well
[01:39] <quendi> cafuego all right thanx.
[01:39] <AdamG`> im having a problem with the wifi on ubunto 5.10rc its come up in, install but i dont see the light on the pcmcia card
[01:39] <cafuego_> quendi: (after you edit /etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:39] <Seveas> Hhhhh, fedora is no where near as good as Ubuntu
[01:39] <rob_p> Trashcan:  Ok, go here and read up:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[01:39] <SuperTails92> Hhhhh, you'll find that apt is far faster than apt.
[01:39] <Trashcan> thanks rob
[01:39] <Xanadu> VR try unmount the relevant partition manually (umount /dev/hda1 or whatever it is)
[01:39] <rob_p> Trashcan:  No prob.
[01:40] <SuperTails92> *faster than yum
[01:40] <quendi> cafuege dont you think an easier way would be to add extra repositories? i thought they were system-wide
[01:40] <eraos> 	i installed ubuntu on a hard drive...and i just put that hard drive into my system (windows) as a slave drive.. and when I use UBCD, I can't load up Ubuntu from the slave... can soeone help me with this?
[01:40] <Hhhhh> FC4 is nice but it required quite a bit of work before getting it to work well (mp3, etc)
[01:40] <Kris_k> what Distro is good for a 100 mhz laptop with 40 mb of ram
[01:40] <VR^> Xanadu: thanks, i'll try
[01:40] <cafuego_> Hhhhh: The installer uses curses, not X, but after that i find Ubuntu is FAR more sane.
[01:40] <Seveas> Kris_k, damnsmallinux
[01:40] <Hhhhh> how about ubuntu install?
[01:40] <Seveas> Hhhhh, virtually no work
[01:40] <daxxar> Jenocin, the stuff in there is deprecated. In favour of what|
[01:40] <daxxar> ?
[01:40] <Dandel> hey jenocin
[01:40] <Hhhhh> multimedia, mp3 working from clean install?
[01:40] <Jenocin> daxxar: looking
[01:41] <Buddha|> I'm having trouble connecting two local computers via FTP.  Could someone help?
[01:41] <Seveas> Hhhhh, no, but in 3 clicks
[01:41] <Jenocin> dandel: hey
[01:41] <cafuego_> Hhhhh: mop3 support will need a bit of work on Ubuntu too. It's a proprietary non-free format, after all.
[01:41] <LasseL> why is it that the propritary ATi drivers can be in a ubuntu repository and sun's java can't ?
[01:41] <Xanadu> VR if that doesn't work the command line tool is resize2fs (check out the man page on it)
[01:41] <Seveas> !tell Hhhhh about mp3
[01:41] <Xanadu> VR but I take no responsibility ;)
[01:41] <cafuego_> LasseL: license
[01:41] <Hhhhh> hehe bothelp
[01:41] <LasseL> cafuego_, what about it?
[01:41] <VR^> heh, no problem, thanks Xanadu
[01:41] <HiddenWolf> Dandel, should work
[01:41] <cafuego_> LasseL: Sun doesn't allow distribution of modified packages.
[01:41] <Dandel> i can't get em to work on ubuntu... and my wireless doesn't work on boot :| after i set it up
[01:41] <cafuego_> LasseL: ATI do.
[01:41] <Hhhhh> Seveas, if I want KDE, I would need to install the kubuntu packages, right?
[01:41] <LasseL> cafuego_, in which way is the java package modified?
[01:42] <quendi> anyone noticed that the ubuntui wlan system seems to be more stable (connection) then in sux
[01:42] <Seveas> Hhhhh, no, Ubuntu is Kubuntu
[01:42] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, not nessicarily, but it's the easiest way.
[01:42] <Seveas> it's just a different set of defaults
[01:42] <Dandel> my wireless works after i completely run all the commands to set it up again but not when i set it up using the tools that are specified on the ubuntu wiki
[01:42] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, kubuntu-desktop is what you'd want
[01:42] <Seveas> if you want just KDE it's easier to start with a Kubuntu iso
[01:42] <cafuego_> LasseL: It's repackaged; different file locations. That's illegal under the license.
[01:42] <Hhhhh> seveas, what is the diff between an ubuntu and a kubuntu install?
[01:42] <Xanadu> guys I'm writing a review and article on Breezy for Tectonic. If anyone would like to contribute their experiences/impressions/personal involvement please /msg me
[01:42] <Spudchat> hi guys...where do i go to set the display to a custome resolution?
[01:43] <Hhhhh> packages, etc?
[01:43] <Seveas> Hhhhh, gnome vs kde
[01:43] <Jenocin> daxxar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=gnome+window+manager
[01:43] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, it's not even out yet. ;)
[01:43] <quendi> dandel so is there a quick command to reestablish lost network con?
[01:43] <Seveas> but you can easily have both, just install the ubuntu-desktop and kubutu-desktop metapackages
[01:43] <Hhhhh> seveas, does ubuntu iso come with kde packages?
[01:43] <cafuego_> LasseL: Mind you, there is a packaged blackdown java (1.4) - that is a different license.
[01:43] <foXgamer> Spudchat: Go to System|Admin menu
[01:43] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, no it doesn't
[01:43] <Xanadu> HiddenWolf yeah but the preview has been out for quite a while
[01:43] <Seveas> Hhhhh, forget that all has to be on the ISO
[01:43] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, true. :)
[01:43] <LasseL> cafuego_, what is so bad about /opt anyways? couldn't you just package it without modifying it?
[01:43] <Seveas> there is NO RPM HELL in ubuntu :)
[01:43] <cafuego_> Hhhhh: The dvd iso would.
[01:43] <Hhhhh> nice
[01:44] <Seveas> packages are extremely easy installable from the central repo
[01:44] <Hhhhh> besides desktop, is there a diff between ubuntu and kubuntu installs?
[01:44] <Dandel> quendi... i don't know... i am forced to run every command all over again
[01:44] <Hhhhh> package-wise
[01:44] <cafuego_> LasseL: No, because converting it from .bin ro .rpm.bin to .deb and then redistributing it is already against the license.
[01:44] <Xanadu> HiddenWolf I'd like to run the review as close to the launch as possible
[01:44] <Seveas> Hhhhh, no
[01:44] <Hhhhh> ok
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, default settings.
[01:44] <Trashcan> bahhhh
[01:44] <Trashcan> firestarter keeps saying an unknown error has occured
[01:44] <cafuego_> LasseL: www.sun.com -> Feedback for all your gripes.
[01:44] <Seveas> and if you install kubuntu, you can install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome too
[01:44] <quendi> dandel why dont you use the panel? disable and activate
[01:44] <Hhhhh> oh, ok
[01:44] <LasseL> cafuego_, did you ask?
[01:44] <Dandel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto <<
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, some oaf on osnews beat you to it, he 'reviewed' it already.
[01:45] <Hhhhh> yea, for some reason I prefer kde over gnome, so i guess kubuntu would be a better choice
[01:45] <Dandel> that page over half way down on the adding to network interfaces doesn't help
[01:45] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, beats me how you could call that anything but a preview, but still. :)
[01:45] <Seveas> Hhhhh, just try ubuntu or kubuntu, you'll never go back to fedora :)
[01:45] <Xanadu> HiddenWolf I already ran a review on the preview edition ;)
[01:45] <Hhhhh> ubuntu is not rpm based, right?
[01:45] <cafuego_> LasseL: Better legal minds than mine can read licenses.
[01:45] <Xanadu> HiddenWolf but I think my final review will be quite different
[01:45] <cafuego_> LasseL: I'm not going to waste my time on it.
[01:45] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, .deb based
[01:45] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, nice
[01:46] <sobersabre> any skype users  in here ?
[01:46] <VR^> Xanadu: here's the message i get with gparted: A busy device is a device with at least one mounted partition.
[01:46] <VR^> Because making changes to a busy device may confuse the kernel, you are advised to reboot your computer.
[01:46] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, based on debian
[01:46] <wastrel> ubuntu is not rpm basd
[01:46] <VR^> it cant resize the partition
[01:46] <quendi> xanadu my preview's crashed 0 times and had only one crash in the help =)
[01:46] <sobersabre> is it possible to have latest skype with breezy ?
[01:46] <HiddenWolf> VR^, You're using the disc you're trying to partition?
[01:46] <HiddenWolf> sobersabre, should be, but haven't tried myself.
[01:46] <Hhhhh> what kernel version and gcc version does 5.04 have?
[01:46] <fr33mind> I use Canadian french in keyboard preference.  That's doesn't work in breezy for me.  I don't have accents nor be able to CTRL-ALT-F1 to go in console.  If I go to keyboard pref and press "reset to default" in layout, I have some dialog of errors but my keyboard works.  Any idea wich package I should reinstall?
[01:46] <LasseL> cafuego_, perhaps if one just wrote them and asked for permission, or their interpretation of their license if you wish. They may not read it as strict as Stallman
[01:46] <sobersabre> HiddenFly, and where "should" it "be" ?
[01:46] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, 5.10 will be out tomorrow
[01:46] <daxxar> Jenocin, no fluxbox --replace. Guess I'll have to do dot-xsession >(
[01:47] <daxxar> :)
[01:47] <Seveas> sobersabre, yes it is, but the official packages have a packaging bug
[01:47] <VR^> HiddenWolf: i'm trying to resize the ext3 partition on which hoary is installed, and i'm booting off of the livecd
[01:47] <debugger> Xanadu, but nevertheless, ubuntu-desktop is really bloated.  it install so many stuff I don't want.  can't you advice on a lighter gnome desktop package?
[01:47] <Hhhhh> HiddenWolf, release or preview?
[01:47] <HiddenWolf> Hhhhh, release
[01:47] <fr33mind> Or somebody else have problem with special keyboard?
[01:47] <Hhhhh> oh, nice!
[01:47] <cafuego_> LasseL: Like I said, I'm not going to waste my time on it. Feel free to email them.
[01:47] <Hhhhh> i'll wait until tomorrow to dl
[01:47] <fr33mind> Am I alone with it?
[01:47] <ubuntuking> hello all
[01:47] <HiddenWolf> VR^, Guess the livecd is finding / using your swap
[01:47] <sobersabre> Seveas, are skype packagers aware of it already  ( if this is libqt3 name..) ?
[01:47] <Hhhhh> how long till kubuntu 5.10 is out as well?
[01:47] <Seveas> Hhhhh, 5.10 has gcc4/linux2.6.12
[01:47] <VR^> HiddenWolf: how can i get around that?
[01:47] <Hhhhh> nice, I like 2.6.12
[01:47] <cafuego_> Hhhhh: about 36 hours.
[01:47] <Seveas> sobersabre, no idea and I couldn't care less :)
[01:47] <Hhhhh> all right
[01:48] <bigcx2> hey all
[01:48] <LasseL> cafuego_, I think I will
[01:48] <jeff_> debugger, reinstall ubuntu with the server install
[01:48] <bigcx2> does anyone successfully installed breezy amd64
[01:48] <VR^> do i even need a swap?
[01:48] <bigcx2> from the iso
[01:48] <fr33mind> "XkbLayout"     "ca_enhanced" <<-- I put this in xorg.conf.  It's bad?
[01:48] <Xanadu_> stupid darn network!
[01:48] <Xanadu_> VR mount -l should list all your mounted partitions
[01:48] <Xanadu_> HiddenWolf there have been a lot of changes since preview and I'm just blown away by how good breezy is
[01:48] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, nice to see you like it.
[01:48] <debugger> jeff_, I did. now I want gnome, but a bare bones gnome.  can you advice which package I should install?
[01:49] <TylerDurden> where do i install fonts to?
[01:49] <HiddenWolf> debugger, bare bones how?
[01:49] <fango> when installing breezy (& I also tried hoary) my network interface is not being detected, can anyone help with this??
[01:49] <Xanadu_> HiddenWolf are u involved with development at all?
[01:49] <debugger> HiddenWolf, like, gnome without openoffice. without ephifany.
[01:49] <HiddenWolf> TylerDurden, ./.fonts or the like
[01:49] <jeff_> debugger: Here is what works best for my little sister's very old computer
[01:49] <fango> Card is in properly, lights on..
[01:49] <VR^> Xanadu_: i get a bunch of stuff from mount -l
[01:49] <twosharp> where do I find the C Header files? or what pavkage are they in? (for hoary)
[01:50] <WinZ> Anybody knows what does mean "PPP: VJ decompression error" in /var/log/debug ?
[01:50] <jeff_> debugger: Do the server install from scratch. The apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <HiddenWolf> debugger, comes without ephiphany by default, and you can strip the .debs of openoffice away, altho that will remove the ubuntu-desktop meta-package
[01:50] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, I'm a groupie, really.
[01:50] <Jenocin> daxxar: http://xwinman.org/basics.php
[01:50] <Hhhhh> Seveas, one more question, is 64-bit version of ubuntu working well? FC4's 64-bit had a few packages that weren't ported, etc
[01:50] <Xanadu_> VR you'll want to umount all of the drives that start with hda, hdb, sda, sdb
[01:50] <Xanadu_> HiddenWolf you sure that's all?
[01:50] <jeff_> debugger: Then apt-get install nautilus which will pull in most if not all of gnome. Once you are in xfce, open up nautilus so that it displays the desktop and handles hotplugging
[01:50] <VR^> Xanadu_: none of them do
[01:50] <jeff_> debugger: Then log out of xfce and save your session
[01:51] <Trashcan> ok i got firestarter configured, but the machine connected to it says 'network cable unplugged'
[01:51] <foXgamer> Seveas: I'm using the 64bit version and it works fine :)
[01:51] <daxxar> Any package that provides a 'default' set of fluxbox menus?
[01:51] <jeff_> debugger: voila! slim gnome
[01:51] <HiddenWolf> Xanadu, I've been around for a while, help out here, read lists, wiki, and chat up in -devel, but not a coder. :)
[01:51] <shadrach> i have the 5.4 disks
[01:51] <daxxar> Like the ones in the gnome desktop
[01:51] <shadrach> will it update to the latest with a dist upgrade?
[01:51] <Hhhhh> foXgamer, what about flash?
[01:51] <fango> Anyone, ubuntu is not detecting my nic eth card...?
[01:51] <Xanadu_> VR hmm strange. Did you try resize2fs?
[01:51] <VR^> Xanadu_: not yet, no
[01:51] <debugger> jeff_, nice. I'll try that. :)
[01:51] <debugger> jeff_, and thx ;)
[01:51] <VR^> i'm thinking of trying my knoppix cd first
[01:52] <cafuego_> Hhhhh: Don't expect a Java browser plugin or flash support. DVD playback is a bit dodgy and it's not entirely happy with video (quicktime/avi). The rest works fine.
[01:52] <p3r4m3r> i just installed ubuntu about a week ago whats difference between this one and breezy coming out tommorrow
[01:52] <HiddenWolf> debugger, there should be a gnome package
[01:52] <wastrel> fresher software
[01:52] <foXgamer> cafuego_: It's nice to know I'm not the only one having these problems :D
[01:52] <Xanadu_> VR good plan. Stay away from the power tools (aka the tools that can destroy your system with one command) as long as possible
[01:53] <debugger> jeff_, oh w8, from where is that xubuntu-desktop package?  universe?
[01:53] <cafuego_> foXgamer: Basically, badly written proprietary ia32 software has problems.
[01:53] <VR^> Xanadu_: will do, thanks
[01:53] <cafuego_> foXgamer: Mind you, a flash free web is *great*
[01:53] <Jenocin> daxxar: looks to be in /etc/X11/Xsesssion.d somwhere
[01:53] <HiddenWolf> debugger, xubuntu-desktop is universe
[01:53] <jeff_> debugger: Yeah I believe so
[01:53] <rob_p> Trashcan:  Are you using a cross-over cable?  If you don't have a hub or switch between the hosts, you'll need a cross-over cable.
[01:53] <shadrach> hrm
[01:53] <foXgamer> cafuego_: Yeah, I don't really use flash, but getting the others to work is a ibt annoying
[01:53] <jeff_> p3r4m3r: breezy is sooooooooooo much better. Trust me
[01:53] <debugger> jeff_, how about gnome-desktop-environment ?
[01:54] <jeff_> debugger: It should be in main
[01:54] <cafuego_> foXgamer: Since about last week, video at least plays though. Can't resize it, but prior to that it didn't even play.
[01:54] <fango> when installing breezy (& I also tried hoary) my network interface is not being detected, can anyone offer advice?
[01:54] <Prower> jeff_: Are the packages for the release being made tomorrow available on the repositories yet?
[01:54] <shadrach> if i install 5.04 will it upgrade to 5.10 with a dist-upgrade?
[01:54] <debugger> jeff_, what should?
[01:54] <foXgamer> cafuego_: yes! That's the problem I'm having. I'm relieved that it wasn't down to something I did
[01:54] <daxxar> What program should be used to change keyboard input language?
[01:54] <nalioth> Prower: some of them are
[01:54] <sydw> hi! Text is typing backwards in ubuntu. Anyone seen that particular issue? It seems to happen in evolution when composing or replying to an email
[01:54] <Prower> nalioth: Oh :> I guess I'd better wait then
[01:55] <HiddenWolf> debugger, gnome-desktop-environment will pull ephiphany in
[01:55] <debugger> HiddenWolf, oh dang! hehe
[01:55] <nalioth> Prower: go ahead and upgrade. apt-get will keep your system updated from then on
[01:55] <shadrach> if i install 5.04 will it upgrade to 5.10 with a dist-upgrade?
[01:55] <foXgamer> daxxar: There is a keyboard layout program with ubuntu and you can change the keyboard in there (and install new languages, layouts, etc)
[01:55] <HiddenWolf> debugger, apt-cache show gnome-desktop-environment
[01:55] <Prower> nalioth: Ahh, yes...that's true, I just figured waiting until the official release is made might have less risk of problems attached to it
[01:55] <daxxar> foXgamer, yes, but what's the name? I havn't got the default menu entires when I'm in fluxbox ;)
[01:56] <nalioth> Prower: pssst. there'll be little fixes afterwards for a while
[01:56] <xml-blog> Seveas, just when I thought I was home free... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3006 can you lend a hand?
[01:56] <fango> please anyone now what the best course of action is to take, my network card isnt being detected...
[01:56] <foXgamer> daxxar: From the terminal, use gnome-keyboard-properties
[01:56] <bimberi> shadrach: no, but it's a simple process ...
[01:57] <foXgamer> daxxar: With the dashes
[01:57] <Kira> Everyone please read www.xanga.com/swordangel
[01:57] <daxxar> thans
[01:57] <shadrach> finally!
[01:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell shadrach about upgrade2breezy
[01:57] <shadrach> hehe
[01:57] <foXgamer> np
[01:57] <Kira> the latest entry is rather important
[01:57] <shadrach> bimberi: is there a list anywhere of known hardware issues?
[01:57] <Hhhhh> are there any problems I should be aware of when installing the nvidia drivers?
[01:58] <HiddenWolf> shadrach, for laptops there is a pretty accurate list, desktops, work in progress
[01:58] <fango> please anyone now what the best course of action is to take, my network card isnt being detected...
[01:58] <foXgamer> Shadrach: Try looking in the ubuntu wiki, it had hardware lists of what works with ubuntu
[01:58] <bimberi> shadrach: not to my knowledge, there is this section on the wiki though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponents
[01:58] <foXgamer> fango: See my previous message to shadrach
[01:58] <shadrach> cool
[01:58] <HiddenWolf> shadrach, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:58] <shadrach> thanks people
[01:59] <daxxar> foXgamer, how do I get it to apply the changes_
[01:59] <daxxar> ?
[01:59] <Kira> It's not about ubuntu but I thought your guys may be interested to know.
[01:59] <Kira> s/your guys/you guys
[01:59] <ubuntuking> does anybody know how to download files in xchat
[01:59] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuking, dcc you mean?
[01:59] <orko> i've replcaed a .udeb file on the hoary installer (scsi-extra-modules), but when I make a new CD it complains that md5 fails. I've updated md5sum.txt with a new hash for that file, but it still does it (is there anything else I need to do? is it possible to disable md5 checks on the installer?)
[01:59] <bimberi> shadrach: sorry, bad link, HiddenWolf has it though :)
[01:59] <ubuntuking> HiddenWolf, yeah
[01:59] <foXgamer> daxxar: I just click closed and it changes.
[02:00] <fango> foXgamer,  what was it, cleared
[02:00] <Trashcan> rob_p : i have the routing machine completely set up, but the machine connected to it says the network cable is unplugged
[02:00] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuking, have someone send you a file by dcc, should pop up a dialog if you haven't turned ignore on, and it should end up in ~/.xchat2/downloads
[02:00] <Trashcan> any idea why it would say that?
[02:00] <daxxar> foXgamer, my terminals still use an american layout :*
[02:00] <daxxar> :*
[02:00] <foXgamer> ubuntuking: I know a lot of people have problems with this including me. Haven't found a solution yet.
[02:00] <daxxar> eh, :(
[02:00] <ubuntuking> HiddenWolf, what if i want to download then from packetnews
[02:01] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuking, there are some options for dcc in the "irc" menu
[02:01] <ubuntuking> HiddenWolf, firefox says that it is not  a registered protocol
[02:01] <foXgamer> daxxar: In the  gnome-keyboard-properties, you have to make sure the keyboard you want is selected and at the top of the list.
[02:01] <Jenocin> daxxar: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-December/msg01359.html
[02:01] <daxxar> foXgamer, i deleted the other one
[02:01] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuking, no experience with that, I get my stuff off the bots on undernet.
[02:01] <foXgamer> daxxar: You may need to log out and log back in agan.
[02:01] <fango> foXgamer,  what was it, cleared
[02:02] <ubuntuking> HiddenWolf, how do u do that?
[02:02] <foXgamer> fanopanic: was what cleared?
[02:02] <daxxar> Jenocin, thanks. :)
[02:02] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuking, depends on the bot. :) but indeed, firefox won't know the protocol.
[02:02] <jalvarezrom> hello all
[02:02] <xml-blog> what;s the general idea to understand when trying to resolve a broken dpkg --unpack? I'd love it if someone could teach me to fish ;) the problems i keep running into are all of the pattern: unpacking foo (from foo-x.y.z) dpkg: error processing ... --unpack trying to overwrite /usr/lib/foo which is also in foo-bar-a.b.c - sorry if that's confusing
[02:03] <Hhhhh> are there any problems I should be aware of when installing the nvidia drivers in breezy?
[02:03] <tritium> xml-blog, you have packages with conflictin files
[02:03] <ubuntuking> HiddenWolf, thank for the help
[02:03] <foXgamer> xml-blog: look at man apt-get
[02:03] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuking, sorry, I don't know anything more.
[02:04] <mustard5> Hhhhh, not sure I haven't installed them yet
[02:04] <foXgamer> Hhhhh: It picked up my nvidia card fine
[02:04] <tritium> xml-blog, the packages are broken (they should not conflict like that).  One usually handles that by using dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/foo.deb
[02:04] <jalvarezrom> anyone has instaled the integrated graphics card Sis 650 with accelerated graphics?
[02:04] <xml-blog> tritium, foXgamer, sorry I seem like such a noob i'm ususally pretty good about sorting these out. I read the man know about pinning and all that. my disconnect is in finding a pattern
[02:05] <xml-blog> tritium, ok that's new to me
[02:05] <daxxar> If gdm is running, but I'm in the console, how can I find it? :)
[02:05] <tritium> xml-blog, you have to be careful forcing things with dpjg
[02:05] <tritium> dpkg
[02:05] <daxxar> Oh well, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:05] <daxxar> ;D
[02:05] <rob_p> Trashcan:  How are you connecting the machines together?  Are you using a hub or switch?
[02:05] <Xenguy> daxxar: Ctrl-Alt-F7 ?
[02:05] <phiqtion> My cpu is stuck at 100%, any help please? any command?
[02:06] <daxxar> Xenguy, nope, that was the problem. But thanks. :)
[02:06] <Xenguy> phiqtion: run top
[02:06] <foXgamer> xml-blog: Don't worry. It's still all new to me too.
[02:06] <tritium> daxxar, Xenguy told you correctly, unless gdm wasn't running
[02:06] <Xenguy> phiqtion: see what is consuming all that CPU; then 'kill -9' the PID of the process, if necessary
[02:06] <xml-blog> tritium, i don't usually use dpkg directly if i can avoid it. this particular error concerns a python lib (wxversion) I've only gotten python from ubuntu so it's just kind of odd to me
[02:07] <HiddenWolf> phiqtion, try applications > system tools > system monitor, and track down what's using all your cpu-power
[02:07] <HiddenWolf> then kill it.
[02:07] <phiqtion> Xenguy, there's nothing eating the cpu. why is the monitor indicating 100%?
[02:07] <tritium> xml-blog, a bug should be filed on the conflicting packages
[02:07] <tritium> users shouldn't have to use --force-overwrite
[02:07] <foXgamer> phiqtion: What monitor are you using?
[02:07] <xml-blog> tritium, I know the desktop ships with python so I'm kind of lost on how best to proceed. should I remove everything pythonic?
[02:07] <Jenocin> daxxar: alt f7? ctrl-alt f7=1st xwindows session
[02:07] <FlyingSquirrel32> I've installed ubuntu on a pc without network access... how do I keep it from taking 4 years to boot up?
[02:07] <phiqtion> foxgamer, cpu frequency scaling monitor
[02:08] <Xenguy> phiqtion: some process is probably responsible for the CPU consumption
[02:08] <Jenocin> daxxar: see u already tried
[02:08] <tritium> xml-blog, nope, better to force the overwrite, and carefully pay attention to what happens
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> FlyingSquirrel32,  could try setting a static ip for it.
[02:08] <foXgamer> phiqtion: Try gkrellm. It gives much more information and very reliable
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> FlyingSquirrel32,  it may be waiting on the dhcp server
[02:08] <phiqtion> foxgamer, where can i get it from
[02:09] <foXgamer> phiqtion: It should be in the package manager
[02:09] <FlyingSquirrel32> Dr_Willis: good idea.. I was thinking ofd disabling, but that may work.
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, synaptic
[02:09] <stinkjones> i found dd windows!
[02:09] <z6> is there an easy way to enable 'idendt' in xchat?
[02:09] <phiqtion> foxgamer, im dl thanks
[02:09] <foXgamer> phiqtion: Failing that, http://gkrellm.net
[02:09] <stinkjones> there is a way to install an img file to a hard disk in windows
[02:09] <stinkjones> YAY!
[02:10] <foXgamer> phiqtion: cool. You can get hundreds of skins too, all from the website :D
[02:10] <daxxar> tritium, well, the gdm process was running, but CTRL + ALT + F7 didn't work (like it usually does)
[02:10] <windex> z6, auth/identd is a unix service. not a irc client feature. windows irc clients usually integrate an identd/auth server to make up for the fact its not unix.
[02:10] <quinn> It would seem that Magic SysRq is disabled by default in the AMD64 kernels for both Hoary and Breezy-- is there a reason for this?
[02:10] <athlon> FlyingSquirrel32, I'd say, you should just chmod -x ntpdate in /etc/init,d
[02:10] <daxxar> sudo gdm said it was running too. So I did a init.d-restart of it, that helped. :)
[02:10] <phiqtion> foxgamer, this is aweome. thanks alot. i will shout if im having trouble using it ok?
[02:10] <foXgamer> Does anyone have trouble with the multiple desktops?
[02:10] <tritium> daxxar, okay.  You can always "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"
[02:10] <sobersabre> foXgamer, which problems ?
[02:10] <foXgamer> phiqtion: No probs! The first time I got it, it was like WOW! And if you need help anytime.
[02:11] <z6> windex, when I want to connect to quakenet, it get this error. Install and enable identd before you connect back from this host. Thank you..
[02:11] <z6> * Closing Link: z6 by pelikaista.fi.quakenet.org (G-lined)
[02:11] <EasterSunshine> can someone give me an estimate on how much data trasnfer per second there is if i were to run lets say acroread over ssh?
[02:11] <foXgamer> sobersabre: Well, I was using four desktops, thought I would change the look of the toobar, and I've had to turn them off because I can only access one.
[02:12] <windex> z6, hm. well, you need to install an auth / ident daemon then. or use a diffrent server. its really, really silly to gline/kline non-idented hosts.
[02:12] <phiqtion> foxgamer, can a 100% load harm my cpu?
[02:12] <nalioth> phiqtion: nope. not as long as your cooling works
[02:12] <Trashcan> any reason for, when i plug this cable into my laptop and the router, the light goes on
[02:12] <z6> windex, Yeah I hate it. Unfortunately it's because of my isp (comcast) that they require it.
[02:12] <Trashcan> but when i plug the cable into my laptop and hte PC
[02:12] <foXgamer> phiqtion: No. Not unless its permanently grinding away for months on end!
[02:12] <Trashcan> the light doesn't go on
[02:12] <Trashcan> and it says the cable isn't plugged in
[02:12] <Trashcan> ?
[02:12] <windex> z6, do you know how to install packages?
[02:13] <z6> yeah
[02:13] <EasterSunshine> you can't connect a laptop to a computer directly by a single cable...
[02:13] <bimberi> Trashcan: you need a crossover cable to connect computers directly
[02:13] <phiqtion> foxgamer, i understand. thanks bro
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> z6,  ive used serveral mini-identd servers in the past . theres one little one written in about 5 lines of perl code. :P
[02:13] <windex> z6, your choices are .. crap there are tons.
[02:13] <rob_p> Trashcan:  Have you been listening?  I've tried to tell you about the cross-over cable twice now.
[02:14] <z6> dr_willis, what's it called?
[02:14] <Trashcan> rob_p: i've been disconnected for most of the last 20 minutes
[02:14] <Trashcan> i probably missed it
[02:14] <Trashcan> thanks though
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> z6,   i forget. :P googling now.. i havent needed one in years
[02:14] <Orborde> The RC for Breezy is way non bittorrented...
[02:14] <Trashcan> what's the reason for the need of a crossover?
[02:14] <rob_p> Trashcan:  Ok.  Well anyway, yeah, you need a cross-over cable unless you put a hub or switch between them.
[02:14] <Trashcan> alright
[02:14] <Trashcan> thanks
[02:14] <windex> z6, you can use slidentd, pidentd, oidentd, nullidentd, ident2, gidentd, or bidentd, if you want packages
[02:15] <windex> z6, all of them are slightly diffrent.
[02:15] <zucchi3> hi
[02:15] <Orborde> How old are the Breezy ISO releases?
[02:15] <nalioth> Orborde: there are daily images available, if you like
[02:15] <foXgamer> Orborde: Not very, but why not wait til the 13th when the new official version is out?
[02:15] <Lord_Athur> How can I mount the floppy driver? but with access for use the floppy disk?
[02:16] <rob_p> Trashcan:  Good luck with it.  If you need a cross-over cable, they can be purchased or easily hacked by cutting the TX and RX pairs and then connecting the TX to the RX.
[02:16] <zucchi3> Please HELP - I just downloaded a software package - how do I unpack it (or whatever your supposed to do) and run the program?
[02:16] <quinn> Trashcan, if it's of interest, Crossover cables have the Transmit and Receive lines on one end swapped around, whereas normal cables have identical ends. It's normally up to the hub or switch to translate between transmit and receive as needed
[02:16] <Orborde> nalioth:  Daily what huh?
[02:16] <z6> windex, Ok thanks. I'll check them out
[02:16] <pschulz01> Is there any documentation on creating packages for Ubuntu?
[02:16] <Orborde> foXgamer: Yeah, but I've decided to switch over now. I can easily download all patchitude as it emerges.
[02:16] <saik0> zucchi3: dkpg -i /path/to/package.deb
[02:16] <foXgamer> zucchi3: What is the files extension?
[02:17] <zucchi3> what do you mean
[02:17] <nalioth> Orborde: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com    navigate to 'daily breezy image'
[02:17] <windex> pschulz01, loads, follow the links from #ubuntu-motu 's topic.
[02:17] <foXgamer> Orborde: Yeah. That's what I'm doing too.
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> z6,   i cant even find it now.. it was somthing like 'fakeidentd' or similer.
[02:18] <saik0> zucchi3: you download a .deb package, correct?
[02:18] <zucchi3> Oh - it's .gz
[02:18] <pschulz01> windex: cheers.
[02:18] <zucchi3> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/games/3dchess
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> z6,  http://lucas.bergmans.us/hacks/fakeident  seems to ne one.. but i saw a smaller one somewhere. :P
[02:18] <z6> dr_willis, ok no prob. Thanks for looking
[02:18] <Toba> how can I restart samba in ubuntu?
[02:18] <zucchi3> thats the link
[02:18] <zucchi3> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/games/3dchess
[02:18] <Toba> !tell me about samba
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> z6,  oh wait - 75% of that code is comments. :P lol
[02:18] <z6> yeah
[02:18] <cafuego_> Toba: sudo /ec/init.d/samba restart
[02:19] <zucchi3> I just want to know how to run it
[02:19] <Toba> thank you cafuego_
[02:19] <z6> I'll try that one
[02:19] <foXgamer> zucchi3: 3d Chess is in the synaptic package manager. If you use that, it will install it for you
[02:19] <Toba> i'm assuming it's /etc/ not /ec/
[02:19] <Toba> yep, works
[02:19] <saik0> zucchi3, you can install it using apt. synaptic is a GUI for apt
[02:19] <zucchi3> I installed it - but how do I access it to run it?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> and apt is a... front end for dpkg  right?
[02:19] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Open up a terminal and try 3dchess (or the name of the file)
[02:20] <Toba> me and my roommate want to share a printer, but I run linux and he runs windows... we almost have it
[02:20] <zucchi3> how do you open a terminal?
[02:20] <Toba> but it's saying NT_ACCESS_DENIED
[02:20] <saik0> Dr_willis: is it?
[02:20] <Toba> does anyone here know a lot about that?
[02:20] <Xanadu_> Dr_Willis it's more than that - it also resolves dependencies and other funky stuff
[02:20] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Look in the menu for an item named Terminal
[02:20] <daxxar> Darn.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> saik0,  not sure.. i think so..  or it calls apt.. ive never gotten the whole pictire.
[02:20] <daxxar> gnome-keyboard-properties REFUSE to change my, well, gnome keyboard properties.
[02:20] <daxxar> brb.
[02:20] <windex> Toba, it may be easier to have him share the printer out and then use linux to connect to it
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> like how yum uses rpm.  and so forth. :P
[02:20] <zucchi3> ok
[02:21] <Toba> windex: that's what we're doing
[02:21] <windex> Toba, what version of windows?
[02:21] <xiaogil> in nautilus, i need to have the editable address bar, how to have it ?
[02:21] <Toba> xp home or pro, I forget which
[02:21] <Toba> it would be so much easier in 98 before they put any security in
[02:21] <Toba> heh
[02:21] <foXgamer> zucchi3: When I install a new program, I use terminal to run it, that way, you can see all messages. If it runs fine, then you can create an icon for it
[02:21] <windex> Toba, k, well, does he have a password enabled on it?
[02:21] <Toba> on the printer?
[02:21] <propagandhi> Toba: if you're getting NT ACCESS DENIED, you should look at the sharing and permissions on the xp box
[02:21] <zucchi3> IT DIDN"T WORK
[02:21] <windex> Toba, on the printer share.
[02:21] <Toba> he didn't specify one
[02:22] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: apt-get is a program all it's own, which calls dpkg to install and log
[02:22] <Toba> but from what I recall windows xp puts a password on things by default
[02:22] <windex> Toba, check the properties on it.
[02:22] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Hang on a min and I'll install it here and let you know what to do
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Linux is all about Legos and Layers. :P
[02:22] <daxxar> Any handy 'default' menu for openbox to get stuff like the administration / system tools of the default gnome menu?
[02:22] <propagandhi> Toba: set the security on the XP box to allow Everyone full control
[02:22] <zucchi3> ok - thanks
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> little programs (legos) building up to be a whole system (layer)
[02:22] <windex> zucchi3, so am i, because i want to play chess now, damnit. so i will figure out whats wrong.
[02:22] <Toba> propagandhi: won't that make his box... insecure?
[02:22] <zucchi3> ok thanks
[02:23] <Toba> also, how do you do that
[02:23] <propagandhi> Toba: its a printer
[02:23] <saik0> thats what a a good UNIX(like) machine is composed of...lots of tiny tiny apps that do one thing really well
[02:23] <Toba> yes it is
[02:23] <propagandhi> you're only setting it on the printer
[02:23] <Toba> but where is the setting to say full control
[02:23] <Toba> I haven't used xp in months
[02:23] <windex> zucchi3, run '3Dc'.
[02:23] <zucchi3> how?
[02:23] <propagandhi> Toba: when you go to the security tab on the properties of the printer
[02:23] <Toba> k
[02:23] <Toba> brb
[02:23] <stinkjones> here's a question for you. How do i find the physical drive name of a Hard  Drive in windows? I hear to use WMI tools from microsoft, but that doesnt work for me
[02:24] <windex> zucchi3, in a terminal window, or by going applications -> run application
[02:24] <foXgamer> zucchi3: In the terminal again. It has to be case specific - 3Dc not 3dc
[02:24] <zucchi3> ok - I got it - THANKS
[02:24] <Toba> there is no security tab
[02:25] <propagandhi> its XP Home aint it
[02:25] <saik0> Are you running Breezy. Breezy should have a menu editor installed with base....
[02:25] <zucchi3> In the future - is there an easier way to run a program (like an icon or access in the games menu)?
[02:25] <Toba> oops
[02:25] <Toba> xp pro
[02:25] <Toba> not home
[02:25] <ericz> i just burnt the install iso of breezy to CD, i put it in, reboot, and it says "Missing operating system"
[02:25] <propagandhi> ok
[02:25] <Xanadu_> night all!
[02:25] <ericz> what did i do wrong
[02:25] <propagandhi> have u shared the printer though
[02:25] <Seveas> ericz, HOW did you burn it?
[02:25] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Yes, you can use the menu editor to add an icon for the game. Or  right click on the desktop and select Add launcher
[02:26] <ericz> uhh with a cd burner
[02:26] <Toba> propagandhi: yes it's shared
[02:26] <ericz> bootable image iso
[02:26] <ksmurf> can anyone suggest a good webcam for linux?  My quickcam messenger SUCKS!(DOA)
[02:26] <foXgamer> nn xanadu
[02:26] <ericz> on xp
[02:26] <kbrooks> DOA?
[02:26] <bimberi> ericz: is your pc bios set to boot off cd
[02:26] <bimberi> ?
[02:26] <ericz> yes
[02:26] <kbrooks> ksmurf: i heard logitech was good
[02:26] <ericz> it said "Missing operating system"
[02:26] <ksmurf> I can't get it reconized
[02:26] <propagandhi> then you should definitely have security
[02:26] <ericz> with cd in
[02:26] <foXgamer> ksmurf: I don't know any specific programs, but look in the package manager
[02:26] <propagandhi> I do when i look
[02:26] <Toba> it's not there though
[02:27] <ksmurf> kbrooks good if you are using windows
[02:27] <Toba> the sharing tab has it set to shared
[02:27] <ericz> so what did i do wrong?
[02:27] <phiqtion> foxgamer, the cpu 100% load was from easy ubuntu
[02:27] <Toba> but there is no security tab
[02:27] <zucchi3> ok - thanks - when I click add launcher, it says to write the COMMAND - where is it??
[02:27] <saik0_afk> sayonara #ubuntu
[02:27] <Totem> hello
[02:27] <foXgamer> phiqtion: Were you running it from the cd?
[02:27] <ksmurf> Fox.... Way past that part... now looking for hardware recomendations
[02:27] <kbrooks> ksmurf: on linux too
[02:27] <foXgamer> hey Totem
[02:27] <Trashcan> thanks rob_p and quinn (a little late :p)
[02:27] <phiqtion> foxgamer, no, it was "downloading the codecs" weird. downloading = 100% cpu load
[02:28] <Trashcan> ill just stop by the store tomorrow and pick one up
[02:28] <Trashcan> i thought i had a hub laying around, but i guess now
[02:28] <foXgamer> phiqtion: cripes! I don't even know mines working half the time! lol
[02:28] <Trashcan> not*
[02:28] <rob_p> Trashcan:  No problem.  Good luck :-)
[02:28] <zucchi3> Where is it located?
[02:28] <ericz> can anyone tell me what's wrong? i put in a ubuntu breezy install cd i just burned and it's says "Missing operating system" when i put the cd and want to install breezy
[02:29] <bimberi> ericz: can you open the cd now, how many files on it?
[02:29] <ericz> uhh
[02:29] <ericz> hold on
[02:29] <daxxar> What the!?
[02:29] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Where is what located? Are you trying to create a launcher for 3dchess? IF so, you can just use the command 3Dc
[02:29] <daxxar> gnome-keyboard-properties REFUSE to give me norwegian keys. :|
[02:29] <zucchi3> ok - thanks a ton
[02:29] <ericz> im on redhat 8 right now, thats whats installed on the pc i want to put breezy on
[02:29] <bimberi> ericz: rephrase - is there more than one file on it?
[02:29] <cafuego_> daxxar: xcellent
[02:29] <ksmurf> hey foX... You get BF2 going yet?
[02:29] <ericz> /mnt/cdrom is empty like theres nothing on it but redhat8 blows
[02:30] <daxxar> cafuego_, hm? :/
[02:30] <foXgamer> daxxar: That seems really strange. Have you tried looking on the ubuntu forums for similar problems?
[02:30] <foXgamer> ksmurf: BF2?
[02:30] <Totem> I just upgraded from hoary to breezy rc.  How do I update my repositories?
[02:30] <daxxar> foXgamer, not yet. Going to bed. :|
[02:31] <foXgamer> okaly :)
[02:31] <ksmurf> foX ..... sorry mistaken you.
[02:31] <ericz> this sucks
[02:31] <foXgamer> hehe. That's okay ksmurf
[02:31] <ericz> i spent like an hour downloading breezy iso, burn it, then it gives me missing operating system
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> i was playing BF2 last night for severla hours. :P
[02:31] <foXgamer> What's BF2?
[02:32] <Trashcan> battlefield 2
[02:32] <ksmurf> foX ..... Battlefield 2
[02:32] <foXgamer> ah!
[02:32] <foXgamer> sounds fun
[02:32] <budluva> anyone know how its possible to pass a command to xfree before it launches? i have an old monitor and have to manually adjust the gamma via xgamma and was wondering how to do this at boot or while xfree loads
[02:32] <saik0_afk> Shameless fanboyism: check out tacticalgamer.com
[02:32] <Trashcan> it would be if i didn't have a bloody 1.6ghz cpu ;p
[02:32] <ksmurf> The only reason I still have windoze
[02:33] <foXgamer> budluva: When the computer boots up, do you have grub?
[02:33] <budluva> yes
[02:33] <nemopaice> I have windows on first HD and Ubuntu on second. Before I can get rid of windows I need to fid a way to transfer fy files. ......How can I access my other HD with windows on it from Linux?
[02:33] <budluva> nemopaice, mount the windows drive via linux
[02:33] <foXgamer> budluva: Then you should be able to set up a configuration file that will load the correct settings for you
[02:34] <nemopaice> OK, but where do I go to do this
[02:34] <foXgamer> ksmurf: Damn. I can't play :(
[02:34] <z6> is there any way to use the file browser with 'root' (sudo) privileges?
[02:34] <budluva> nemopaice, boot to ubuntu, then mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdcX /mount/whereever/you/want
[02:34] <bimberi> nemopaice: !mountwindows
[02:34] <bimberi> er
[02:34] <budluva> nemopaice, /dev/hdcX is your windows drive
[02:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell nemopaice about mountwindows
[02:35] <budluva> foXgamer, you know of a howto somewhere about making boot config files?
[02:35] <xilus> holas
[02:36] <foXgamer> budluva: hmm. I don't know off any off hand, you could try the ubuntu website.
[02:36] <nemopaice> Thank you very much "ubutu", "bimberi", and "budluva"
[02:36] <budluva> foXgamer, na, found one on linuxquestions.org
[02:37] <ericz> cany someone help me out, i think i just wasted about 2 hours... i downloaded the breezy install iso, burned it to cd
[02:37] <budluva> foXgamer, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=62382
[02:37] <ericz> then i put it in my computer
[02:37] <ericz> and it just says
[02:37] <foXgamer> budluva: cool. Or try http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-grub-commands.html It's for redhat, but should be the same with grub
[02:37] <ericz> "missing operating system"
[02:37] <TodFlanders> ericz is your bios et to boot from hard drive
[02:37] <ericz> no it boots from CD
[02:37] <TodFlanders> and also did you hit make disc from image or just vopy the iso to a cd?
[02:37] <ericz> the boot order is like cd, floppy, then hard drive
[02:38] <ericz> i made the cd bootable
[02:38] <ericz> what did i do wrong
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> Failed to play: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> anyone been getting this error from totem ?
[02:38] <TodFlanders> wricz do you have another cokmputer to put it in?
[02:38] <TylerDurden> this is really urgent :O my dad has a windows laptop and to that is connected the only printer. how can i print something off my computer but so it goes through his pritner?
[02:38] <ericz> yes
[02:38] <ericz> it didnt work on windows xp sp2
[02:38] <ericz> or redhat 8
[02:39] <ericz> both had same error
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> totem in winxp ?
[02:39] <ericz> i don't know what the fuck i did
[02:39] <tristanmike> ericz, language please, this is a family channel
[02:39] <ericz> sorry, but i kinda wasted 2 hours
[02:39] <TodFlanders> it should work aslong as your cdrom suports boot and you have to burn the iso a special way
[02:39] <foXgamer> ericz: Has the cd been checked with the checksum?
[02:40] <ericz> uhh
[02:40] <ericz> no?
[02:40] <ericz> how would i go about that
[02:40] <TylerDurden> guys please help
[02:40] <TodFlanders> tyler go to add printer wizard and try to add a smb printer
[02:40] <TodFlanders> you must share the printer from xp though
[02:40] <foXgamer> ericz: All iso images come with a checksum file so that you can check if it's okay. If the numbers don't match, something wrong. The checksum is usually in the same place where you get the iso image
[02:41] <Totem> I'm using x-chat
[02:41] <bimberi> TylerDurden: share the printer (on XP), then connect to it via System -> Admin -> Printing
[02:41] <ericz> i got it from ubuntulinux.org
[02:41] <saik0> TylerDurden: is it shared on the windows PC?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> alright .. in mplayer my screen is no more than a 5 inch .. anyone knows how I enlarge it ?
[02:41] <TylerDurden> no i dont know how to share it
[02:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ericz about verify
[02:42] <z6> is there any way to use the file browser with 'root' (sudo) privileges? So i can delete files that I would otherwise not be able to?
[02:42] <Falstius> wickedpuppy, "f" will make it full screen
[02:42] <TodFlanders> wickedpuppy you mean the video is small no matter if its fullscreen?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> yes
[02:42] <sberard> did anyone else running breezy do an update today and lose the firefox start page again
[02:42] <TodFlanders> yes to samll in fullscreen?
[02:42] <bimberi> TylerDurden: you're stretching us with windows support - ask the paperclip
[02:42] <foXgamer> wickedpuppy: That's a common problem.
[02:42] <erick> guys where is naliot
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> the playing screen .. not the mplayer screen ....is way too small
[02:42] <TylerDurden> =/ i really gotta pring it
[02:42] <TodFlanders> wicked have you changed output codecs?
[02:43] <foXgamer> wickedpuppy: Yes, I can maximize the window, but not the actual video playing. It is a known problem.
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> i think no ...
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> thanks foXgamer
[02:43] <foXgamer> anytime :) Let's hope they fix it :)
[02:43] <saik0>  heh i just /msg-ed ubotu with 'help' and he said o help on .  Use 'help' without arguments.....is that some sort of joke?
[02:43] <TodFlanders> i can have full screen video only if  i use "xv" output driver
[02:44] <ericz> has anyone seen/heard about the error "missing operating system" before?
[02:44] <Falstius> foXgamer, I had that problem too.  Magically it started working at one point (and still works)
[02:44] <TodFlanders> ericz that means its trying to boot of your harddrive which has no os
[02:44] <TodFlanders> its skipping he cd for somereason
[02:44] <foXgamer> erick: Not with an iso cd. Only if it was a straight copy.
[02:44] <ericz> redhat8 is installed
[02:44] <saik0> /quick "gotta go!"
[02:44] <foXgamer> Falstius: hopefully I can keep trying and eventually it'll work then.
[02:45] <ericz> if i put the cd in, i get the error, without the cd in, it goes to grub then to redhat 8
[02:45] <TodFlanders> foX have you changed output drivers?
[02:45] <foXgamer> TodFlanders: I have, yes. Unfortunately I still havent had any luck
[02:45] <TodFlanders> hmm mplayer is good over here
[02:45] <ericz> the bios boot order is cd first, floppy second, then HD
[02:46] <bimberi> TylerDurden: usually it's opening the control panel, navigating to printers, right-click on the desired printer and select sharing
[02:46] <ericz> so it should be booting from CD :/ but i get "missing operating system"
[02:46] <Hobbsee> ericz: did the cd burn correctly, ie did it get the correct checksum?
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> foXgamer, i managed to make the playing screen to full screen ... in the settings go to video and change to xv driver :P and restart mplayer
[02:47] <ericz> well the cd size is the file size of the iso
[02:47] <ericz> i guess
[02:47] <nalioth> ericz: did you read the verify howto uboto linked to you?
[02:47] <ericz> i dont get that whole checksum thing
[02:47] <nalioth> ericz: ubotu sent you a msg
[02:47] <ericz> i know
[02:47] <ericz> i dont get the site
[02:47] <TodFlanders> yeah wicked thats the fix that worked for me aswell
[02:47] <nalioth> ericz: md5 checksums are an integral part of *nix
[02:47] <ericz> i dont know where to find those md5sums  or whatever
[02:48] <nalioth> ericz: they are on the same page you d/l the iso from
[02:48] <ericz> i didn't see them
[02:48] <TylerDurden> when i try to do admin->printing it says CUPS could not be started
[02:48] <TylerDurden> contacted*
[02:48] <nalioth> ericz: scroll down on the page
[02:48] <ericz> ohH!
[02:49] <ericz> when on windows xp, and i explore the cd, should i see anything?
[02:49] <bimberi> yes
[02:49] <ericz> it was just empty, but there was space taken on the cd
[02:49] <ericz> 600 something mb taken, but exploring - it was a blank window
[02:49] <TylerDurden> bimberi when i try to go to system->admin->priting it claims that the CUPS server could not be contacted
[02:49] <K-Rich> seems i can't use ffmpeg to capture from my webcam at /dev/video0 cause of no v4l1 , only v4l2
[02:49] <Hobbsee> ericz: it should show you that there's ubuntuetc.iso on there
[02:49] <foXgamer> erick: Try selecting show all files, or show hidden files.
[02:50] <ericz> i did choose show hidden files
[02:50] <bimberi> TylerDurden: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys start
[02:50] <ericz> was just empty, but theres like 600+ mb taken
[02:50] <nalioth> ericz: check your md5
[02:50] <ericz> im trying to
[02:50] <nalioth> ericz: you in windows atm?
[02:50] <TylerDurden> not working bimberi
[02:51] <bimberi> "not working"?
[02:51] <AaronMT> Hey when breezy comes out and we download the updates automatically, does it update the kernel too?
[02:51] <TylerDurden> same error
[02:51] <ericz> im in redhat8
[02:51] <ericz> atm
[02:51] <foXgamer> AaronMT: Yes it will
[02:51] <phiqtion> how can i see the a folder in my home directory which starts with a . ?
[02:51] <foXgamer> phiqtion: Go into the menu and select show hidden files
[02:51] <TodFlanders> tyler can you acces the latop? If so can you just email it and open it their, I know it doesnt answer your question but if you need it printed soon it may be easier
[02:51] <nalioth> ericz: ah, you should be able to run "md5sum /dev/cdrom0" or whatever your cdrom device is
[02:52] <phiqtion> foxgamer, thanks bro
[02:52] <nalioth> phiqtion: in a terminal or gui?
[02:52] <TylerDurden> TodFlanders, thats what i tried, but the fonts and page were messed up, thats why i want to print off my computer
[02:52] <TodFlanders> what application
[02:52] <Hobbsee> phiqtion: you can type in the file path too, and it will get it
[02:52] <TodFlanders> openoffice?
[02:52] <TylerDurden> windows is using word
[02:52] <TodFlanders> export to pdf
[02:52] <TylerDurden> oh good idea ill try that
[02:53] <bimberi> TodFlanders: good thinking!!! :)
[02:53] <TodFlanders> and open in adobe on windows, open office will pdf it and keep fints
[02:53] <TylerDurden> theres no pdf option
[02:53] <ericz> getting md5sum...
[02:53] <ericz> its being all slow
[02:53] <windex> yes there is, TylerDurden
[02:53] <windex> its not in the print settings, its under save as pdf, or export to pdf
[02:53] <windex> can't remember.
[02:53] <TodFlanders> under file, export to pdf in Oo
[02:53] <ericz> how long should it take to run "md5sum /dev/cdrom"
[02:54] <erick> gud morning GUYS hows your morning
[02:54] <TylerDurden> oh i looked under save as
[02:54] <windex> ericz, awhile.
[02:54] <ericz> great
[02:54] <ericz> i haven't wasted enough time
[02:54] <TodFlanders> hehe I havent got my printer up either, to lazy and pdf has saved me a few times
[02:54] <windex> ericz, just smile and reflect on how great life has been so far to where you can be worried about things like installing an OS on a PC.
[02:55] <bimberi> beautifully put windex
[02:55] <ericz> ha
[02:55] <nalioth> ericz: just a few minutes
[02:55] <ericz> the whole gpgp pgpgp commands or whatever were being weird on me
[02:55] <ericz> i skipped that step :P
[02:56] <Turco_Guitar> hi all, linux lovers...
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hello :)
[02:56] <ericz> i can run md5sum on the .iso file
[02:56] <Turco_Guitar> how r u
[02:56] <ericz> and it should be identical right?
[02:56] <foXgamer> hey Turco_Guitar & Hobbsee
[02:57] <Hobbsee> hi foXgamer
[02:57] <ericz> the uh cd drive stopped being loud... and theres still been no output from the md5sum /dev/cdrom command
[02:57] <Kris_k> on DamnSmallLinux you think i can run wine ? lol
[02:57] <hircus> hi all
[02:57] <Turco_Guitar> hi foXgamer
[02:57] <hircus> anyone running an AMD Turion laptop here?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> hircus: no, but what do you want to know?
[02:57] <ericz> [root@localhost eric] # md5sum /dev/cdrom
[02:57] <ericz> md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error
[02:57] <hircus> I get a similar error to this:
[02:57] <hircus> http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0510.0/0458.html
[02:57] <ericz> perfect
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  in fact i am
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  its a Compaq V2311
[02:58] <hircus> Dr_Willis: I've not tried Ubuntu on this laptop, but older kernels (on Fedora, at least) works fine with no_timer_check
[02:58] <nalioth> ericz: it may be cdrom0 or cdrom1 or seomthing
[02:58] <hircus> Dr_Willis: ah. I have the L2000 - same computer, pretty much
[02:58] <ericz> k its worth the 1.5 - 2 months of waiting for shipped cd's
[02:58] <ericz> cdrom0 and cdrom1 dont exist
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> use the  'noapic' and 'nolspic'  - is what i needed to do
[02:59] <ericz> and the cd drive was being noisy when i ran it on 'cdrom'
[02:59] <hircus> Dr_Willis: installed using the RC install ISO.. X would not start either
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> i think.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:59] <ericz> so my cd is crap
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> for X - i DID get the ati drivers working
[02:59] <ericz> ill wait for shipit ones
[02:59] <hircus> Dr_Willis: noapic, nolspic *and* no_timer_check, or just the first two?
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> with 3d :P
[02:59] <nalioth> ericz: or your cdrom drive is crap
[02:59] <ericz> probly both
[02:59] <foXgamer> ericz: is it a dvd drive?
[02:59] <ericz> no
[02:59] <windex> ericz, it sounds to me like your cdrom drive has issues, can you md5 the iso?
[02:59] <hircus> Dr_Willis: neat! how about suspend/resume?
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> just the first 2. i dont see what No_timer would hurth
[02:59] <hircus> Dr_Willis: ah ok. last time I needed no_timer_check and nothing else
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  i disable suspend and resume on ALL my laptops. :P even under windows.. it just works cruddy
[03:00] <ericz> im trying to md5sum the iso now
[03:00] <warpforge> Help: Evolution 2.4.1 won't send via SMTP:
[03:00] <warpforge> (evolution:19322): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter.
[03:00] <warpforge> (evolution:19322): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed
[03:00] <warpforge> camel-imap-provider-ERROR **: file camel-imap-command.c: line 180 (imap_command_start): assertion failed: (store->ostream)
[03:00] <hircus> somebody claimed that it worked on Fedora if you pass some funny settings. not that important yet though
[03:00] <windex> warpforge, do not paste.
[03:00] <hircus> Dr_Willis: is this on i386 or AMD64?
[03:00] <ericz> [root@localhost eric] # md5sum ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:00] <ericz> b9b73ed7aebdd0fdf5bfdfe26d6679de  ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:00] <Hobbsee> ericz: even from windows, you should see ubuntu_5.10_whatever.iso as being on the cd.  windows wont know how to open it, but you should definetly be able to see it from windows explorer, without showing hidden files
[03:00] <ericz> yeah i couldnt see it on windows
[03:00] <warpforge> I'm on 5.10 i686
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  its kernel bugs/issues we are dealing with here.. im using the i386 disrto of ubuntu. the 5.10 release.
[03:01] <ericz> i used some weird program to burn the cd
[03:01] <windex> ericz, if you can't see it on windows the image and/or cd is hosed. have you tried making another copy? this one might just be a coaster
[03:01] <ericz> id never heard of the program but it had bootable image burning which apparently doesnt work
[03:01] <nalioth> ericz: check your md5 on the .iso image you downloaded
[03:01] <ericz> i did nalioth
[03:01] <ericz> [root@localhost eric] # md5sum ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:01] <ericz> b9b73ed7aebdd0fdf5bfdfe26d6679de  ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:01] <windex> erick, you just have to burn the image. you do not need to do anything special with the bootable part, the image is bootable already
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> 'burn at once' is a nice tool for windows to burn iso files.
[03:01] <hircus> Dr_Willis: will have to try that when I have time. Does X work with the vesa driver without the noapic, nolspic settings? that's probably my problem
[03:01] <windex> err
[03:01] <cafuego_> ericz: Does that match the published md5sum?
[03:01] <windex> ericz,
[03:02] <ericz> uhh let me check
[03:02] <hircus> Dr_Willis: I probably don't want to mess with 3D acceleration for now .. unless there are .debs for those online
[03:02] <warpforge> Can anyone help me with my libcamel problem?
[03:02] <ericz> yes
[03:02] <cafuego_> ericz: Is localhost already running Ubuntu?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  yea it worked for me.. clock was too fast :P however.. i THINK ya need to change the vesa to 'ati' and   enabvle the 'no hardware acell' option however.
[03:02] <ericz> no
[03:02] <ericz> redhat8
[03:02] <cafuego_> ericz: aiyee ;-)
[03:02] <ericz> heh
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  took me 2 min to get the ati stuff working from the repos.
[03:02] <cafuego_> ericz: Did you bun it under redhat?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:02] <ericz> im going to wait on shipit
[03:02] <ericz> no windows
[03:02] <hircus> ah. so the auto-detected settings actually work (Ubuntu chose ati for me)
[03:03] <hircus> Dr_Willis: so I have to manually edit xorg.conf and pass .. err, what's the no hardware accel option
[03:03] <ericz> see-ya.... ill be back in 2 months when shipit delivers 'em and spaz out about how great breezy is
[03:03] <ericz> thanks for trying to help :/
[03:03] <windex> ericz, i think your problem can still be fixed.
[03:03] <hircus> Dr_Willis: Option "NoAccel" .. got it
[03:03] <ericz> im too lazy to reburn
[03:03] <hircus> Dr_Willis: thanks a bunch!
[03:04] <ericz> later
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  or just install the flgrx stuff -- much easier :P
[03:04] <warpforge> Now, how about my Evolution issue...
[03:04] <windex> he clearly hasn't spent much time burning cd's. i have about a 5% coaster rate.
[03:04] <windex> heh
[03:04] <hircus> Dr_Willis: the driver's different, though, right?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> not sure on the 64bit disrto . im useing the 32.
[03:04] <hircus> Dr_Willis: or is the fglrx Debian package for both the normal ATI cards *and* the X200 ?
[03:04] <hircus> Dr_Willis: oh, I'm using the 32-bit distro
[03:04] <foXgamer> windex: hehe. You're right there! I have a mobile of them
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> i used the ubuntu 32bit packages.. followign the ubuntu binary driver howto/wiki
[03:05] <hircus> Dr_Willis: Sticking to Fedora for now on 64-bit (triple-booting), I don't want to have to install a chroot to get Flash
[03:05] <warpforge> fglrx doesn't mention support of X200
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> warpforge,   i know.. i was suprised when it worked.
[03:05] <zucchi3> Where do you recommend to go to download free applications and games?
[03:05] <hircus> warpforge: yup, as far as I know ATI still has two separate drivers
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> but its working on my V2311  x200m even.
[03:06] <windex> zucchi3, uh, synaptic is pretty much your best bet. :)
[03:06] <hircus> Dr_Willis: the packager probably packaged both drivers. The Livna.org packager for Fedora said that since ATI promised the drivers will be merged, he didn't want to do it
[03:06] <hircus> Dr_Willis: but many thanks!
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> at least you know theres HOPE!
[03:06] <hircus> got to go try this out now.
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:06] <zucchi3> any good websites???
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> zucchi3,  google.com :P
[03:06] <zucchi3> k
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> 'linux game tome'
[03:06] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Go to http://sourceforge.net/index.php
[03:07] <warpforge> Can someone please help with my Evolution / libcamel issue?
[03:07] <zucchi3> k
[03:07] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: synaptic as well, it has plenty of descriptions
[03:07] <Hobbsee> warpforge: not enough info for anyone to help you
[03:07] <warpforge> Whenever Evolution sends via SMTP on my system, Evolution crashes.
[03:08] <warpforge> Running Evo via shell reveals an assert failure
[03:08] <warpforge> in libcamel
[03:08] <warpforge> This didn't happen before
[03:09] <warpforge> What am I supposed to do? There's obviously a problem with my libcamel, but I can't force the version back in Synaptec.
[03:10] <warpforge> Stuff like this shouldn't be breaking this late in Breezy.
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> warpforge, its always like this ... first week of release is usually full of bugs
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> we are not even in release yet ...
[03:14] <warpforge> I know, but it's silly that a bug like this is in the repository 2 days before release
[03:15] <ajmitch_> and have you filed a bug?
[03:15] <warpforge> Not yet. I'm going to replace my libcamel to see if it fixes it first.
[03:16] <warpforge> I'm getting a newer version from Debian
[03:16] <brenner> er, using debian packages is a no-no afaik
[03:17] <ajmitch_> and what was the assertion failure?
[03:17] <sydw_> anyone having trouble with mozilla-firefox packages?
[03:17] <martincho> Hi, cant use opengl headers on ubuntu
[03:17] <warpforge> one sec
[03:17] <martincho> how can I get it?
[03:17] <sydw_>  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[03:17] <ajmitch_> martincho: hoary? breezy?
[03:18] <warpforge> Here's the assertion failure:
[03:18] <warpforge> camel-imap-provider-ERROR **: file camel-imap-command.c: line 180 (imap_command_start): assertion failed: (store->ostream)
[03:18] <krax> ubuntu has no root account?
[03:18] <warpforge> nope
[03:18] <martincho> well, dunno, the free cd of ubuntu
[03:18] <warpforge> well, sorta no
[03:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> where can i get w32codecs.deb?
[03:18] <martincho> Im new at this
[03:18] <krax> i mean i can sudo stuff
[03:18] <krax> but as far as just logging on as root and stuff you cannot right?
[03:18] <ajmitch_> warpforge: put that in the bugreport, please :)
[03:19] <krax> how do i activate the universe mirrors in synaptic?
[03:19] <brenner> krax: yes, it's disabled by default
[03:19] <warpforge> FlyingSquirrel: Win32 codecs: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:19] <brenner> ubotu: tell krax about root
[03:20] <DMFDSandman> how much space should i partition for ubuntu?
[03:20] <brenner> krax: mirror?  or just enabling it?
[03:20] <wabble> krax: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , remove the # in front of what you want
[03:20] <warpforge> krax: you have to set the root password if you really want to use root
[03:20] <warpforge> You really don't ever need true root access
[03:20] <krax> brenner-im trying to troubleshoot a dns problem. i just install breezy and i can go to ubuntu's ws but nothing else
[03:20] <krax> everything else is timing out
[03:21] <krax> so i have net access.. i can ping sites and go to that site using the ip address from a ping
[03:21] <krax> however, the name resolution is ineffective as it just times out
[03:21] <sydw_> package updates for mozilla-firefox have destroyed firefox
[03:21] <sydw_> i have no web browser
[03:21] <Hobbsee> sydw_: you're updating to 1.0.7?
[03:21] <sydw_> :-(
[03:21] <sydw_> Hobbsee, yes
[03:21] <wabble> sydw_: install epiphany
[03:22] <Hobbsee> nah, you dont have to do that
[03:22] <warpforge> Here's the trick for fixing FF: remove the firefox and mozilla-firefox packages. They conflict. Then, select mozilla-firefox and install it.
[03:22] <zucchi3> I don't know what setting I changed but now, everytime I open Synamptic Package Viewer I get this error message - W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <brenner> zucchi3: DONT paste in here
[03:22] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: pastebin!
[03:22] <Madpilot> !tell zucchi3 about pastebin
[03:22] <krax> any suggestions?
[03:22] <zucchi3> What should I do?
[03:22] <warpforge> krax: what do you get for "dig google.com"?
[03:22] <wabble> sydw_: repair don't work? Does it show up under broken in synaptic?
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sydw_: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox firefox
[03:23] <Toma-> flood-arific
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sydw_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[03:23] <warpforge> so what hobbsee said
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sydw_: and it will work beautifully :)  Everyone had that problem
[03:23] <zucchi3> what should I do?
[03:23] <warpforge> But this firefox issue is a BIG problem. It broke my dist-upgrade to Breezy
[03:23] <brenner> DMFDSandman: up to you....typcial install is 1.5Gb iirc.....you might want to create a seperate home partition as well
[03:24] <sydw_> Hobbsee, thanks.
[03:24] <krax> brenner-any idea about this dns issue i'm having?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> sydw_: no problems :) tell us how it goes
[03:24] <warpforge> zucci: run "sudo apt-get update"
[03:24] <zucchi3> how
[03:24] <zucchi3> ?
[03:24] <warpforge> either click "refresh" in synaptec
[03:24] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: in a console
[03:24] <DMFDSandman> brenner, thanks
[03:25] <warpforge> or type what I quoted in a console
[03:25] <brenner> krax: no....i have no clue about network issues. sorry
[03:25] <brenner> krax: warpforge seems to be able to help though
[03:25] <krax> unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?
[03:25] <warpforge> do you have update manager running?
[03:25] <warpforge> close it
[03:25] <krax> ok.. one sec
[03:26] <AES_24_96> anyone bored enough to help out a noob?
[03:26] <krax> how do i close it?  im a newb sorry :(
[03:26] <krax> right clicking isn't working
[03:26] <foXgamer> what's the problem AES_24_96 ?
[03:26] <EPSONLX300> i need to know what driver i used for EPSON LX 300 ? for ubuntu 5.04 ?
[03:26] <warpforge> krax: you have to close the warning box first
[03:26] <martincho> I have Hoary, how can I install opengl headers?
[03:26] <nalioth> AES_24_96: just ask the channel a question
[03:26] <RockyBurt> hm.. .why is it that on breezy right now if i apt-get a new pkg, it doesn't update my menu until after i log out and log back in again?
[03:26] <krax> they're all closed
[03:27] <zucchi3> thanks
[03:27] <AES_24_96> foXgamer, Im installing for the first time, I burned the ubunto cd in Nero, and had it make it a boot disc
[03:27] <EPSONLX300> anybody can help me?
[03:27] <warpforge> krax: you don't see anything open on your task bar?
[03:27] <AES_24_96> when I boot with it, I cant find on the cd any file to invoke to start the installation
[03:27] <EPSONLX300> i need to install my driver for printer
[03:27] <nalioth> RockyBurt: you can restart your gnome-panel
[03:27] <krax> task bar on the top right i do have the updater
[03:27] <krax> but i can't close it for some reason
[03:27] <mustard5> AES_24_96, which version?
[03:27] <RockyBurt> nalioth: hrm, but i shouldn't have to do that, should i?
[03:27] <warpforge> krax: the icon in the tray isn't a problem
[03:27] <krax> ok
[03:28] <warpforge> only when you have the main window open
[03:28] <AES_24_96> hoary hedgehog
[03:28] <krax> alright
[03:28] <nalioth> RockyBurt: no you shouldnt
[03:28] <krax> the icon is there
[03:28] <mustard5> k
[03:28] <warpforge> krax: it's red?
[03:28] <krax> i was told to fix this problem i need to install resolvconf, pump and dnsmasq
[03:28] <krax> yes
[03:28] <foXgamer> AES_24_96: Burning the disk with the iso file would make the cd bootable so you shouldn't need to invoke any files.
[03:28] <nalioth> RockyBurt: but we all suffer the same problem
[03:28] <krax> i just install breezy about 4 hours ago
[03:28] <krax> haven't messed with it too much
[03:28] <EPSONLX300> nobody cares my probs
[03:28] <EPSONLX300> :(
[03:28] <warpforge> krax: you shouldn't have to install anything to get basic DNS functionality
[03:28] <zucchi3> In Synaptic Package Manager - whats the difference between multiverse, universe, and the ones that have neither??
[03:28] <krax> right but check this out
[03:29] <warpforge> are you on a wired connection?
[03:29] <krax> yes
[03:29] <foXgamer> what is the prob EPSONLX300 ?
[03:29] <warpforge> okay
[03:29] <warpforge> krax: can you ping your DNS server?
[03:29] <AES_24_96> foXgamer I tried buring it as an iso, and it wouldnt even boot then
[03:29] <krax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690
[03:29] <AES_24_96> foXgamer I sahould say this is a dual boot setup
[03:29] <dooglus> AES_24_96: is your BIOS set up to boot from the CD first?
[03:29] <AES_24_96> yes
[03:29] <warpforge> krax: reading your post
[03:29] <EPSONLX300> i ask what is the right driver for this EPSON LX 300 for linux?
[03:29] <foXgamer> Dual boot shouldn't matter.
[03:29] <mustard5> AES_24_96, burning it as an iso is what you are meant to do
[03:29] <EPSONLX300> im newbie foXgamer
[03:29] <AES_24_96> it boots fine if I use the nero boot disk thing
[03:29] <krax> ok what im trying to do is step one
[03:30] <rubem> hi there all
[03:30] <zucchi3> anyone??
[03:30] <foXgamer> and you would like help EPSONLX300 ?
[03:30] <dooglus> AES_24_96: what does "boots fine" mean to you?
[03:30] <EPSONLX300> its my pleasure foXgamer
[03:30] <AES_24_96> it goes tro dos and lets me type stuff
[03:30] <RockyBurt> nalioth: so is this a recent bug? because i seem to recall this working last week
[03:30] <AES_24_96> if I boot off just the iso it says non system disk, replace with system disk
[03:30] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:30] <dooglus> AES_24_96: going into DOS isn't "fine".  you want it to go into the ubuntu installer...
[03:30] <EPSONLX300> help me out to print my printer EPSON LX 300
[03:30] <zucchi3> anyone?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: google it
[03:30] <nalioth> RockyBurt: really? on some pkgs i've never had it work
[03:31] <zucchi3> ok
[03:31] <dooglus> AES_24_96: if you boot into windows and look at the contents of the disk you burned as an ISO, what do you see?
[03:31] <warpforge> krax: If you're having problems with changing DNS configurations, I recommend installing "network-manager." It will configure a local DNS server and abstract away the configuration changes from your main Linux network system.
[03:31] <AES_24_96> dooglus, ok how do I make it go into the ubuntu installer, it wont boot from the iso for me, though itll boot if I drop system disk files on no problem
[03:31] <brenner> zucchi3: er, no need to google:
[03:31] <zucchi3> ok
[03:31] <brenner> ubotu: tell zucchi3 about components
[03:31] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: Printer eh? I don't know anything, but give me a min and I'll see what I can find out. I get a printer tomorrow so I would like to know too :)
[03:31] <krax> ok how do i do that?
[03:32] <warpforge> krax: do you want synaptec or console instructions?
[03:32] <EPSONLX300> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:32] <krax> whichever is easier
[03:32] <krax> console
[03:32] <warpforge> okay
[03:32] <krax> hit me with the console.. i might as well get used to it right
[03:32] <dooglus> AES_24_96: did you see my question?
[03:33] <warpforge> first, "sudo apt-get update" (this is just to get you up to date)
[03:33] <AES_24_96> dooglus md5sum.txt, README.diskdefines, ubuntu and some directories
[03:33] <zucchi3> ????????
[03:33] <warpforge> krax: oh wait... you'll have trouble with repositories if your DNS doesn't work
[03:33] <krax> well it's getting the ones that are directly from ubuntu
[03:33] <krax> for some reason
[03:33] <warpforge> okay
[03:33] <dooglus> AES_24_96: ok, that's how it should be.  i don't know why it isn't working.  do you have another CD drive you could try?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> brenner: thanks for that, didnt know that it was a command
[03:33] <krax> let me see if it works
[03:33] <Toma-> are the ubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop deb's just dummy packages?
[03:33] <wastrel> hello my precious little darlings
[03:33] <AES_24_96> maybe
[03:34] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:34] <warpforge> krax: then, "sudo apt-get update," if you haven't already
[03:34] <AES_24_96> copuld there be something in my bios which wont allow iot to see linnux or something?
[03:34] <krax> i am trying.. it worked earlier now it's resolving security.ubuntu to 1.0.0.0
[03:34] <warpforge> krax: second, "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[03:34] <dooglus> AES_24_96: try booting it in a different PC.  it won't install anything until you tell it to - just booting is OK
[03:34] <warpforge> 1.0.0.0?
[03:34] <AES_24_96> ok
[03:34] <AES_24_96> bbiab
[03:34] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:35] <brenner> wastrel: you in the right channel? ;)
[03:35] <krax> 0ackage network-manager is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:35] <krax> is only available from another source
[03:35] <krax> E: Package network-manager has no installation candidate
[03:35] <Xenguy> haha
[03:35] <eXcentra> Hi guys. I'm trying to extract some files from an archive but the filenames are in a foreign language and so it won't let me extract them. How can I extract them?
[03:35] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:35] <krax> the update is done but i get that when i try to install network-manger
[03:35] <krax> manager*
[03:35] <Xenguy> rubem: should be, yes
[03:35] <kevogod> rubem, Usually.
[03:36] <warpforge> krax: one sec
[03:36] <mustard5> rubem, what program is notifying you of the update?
[03:36] <warpforge> krax: have you enabled "universe"?
[03:36] <Xenguy> rubem: I believe I already did (hoary) - so far so good
[03:36] <brenner> rubem: what's your current kernel, and what's it suggesting?
[03:36] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: Try at http://www.linuxprinting.org/epson-faq.html#s_17
[03:36] <kevogod> Has Rhythmbox ceased to work for anyone in Breezy? I get a Segmentation Fault now.
[03:37] <krax> nope
[03:37] <warpforge> krax: do this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:37] <warpforge> wait
[03:37] <warpforge> sorry
[03:37] <warpforge> that's for hoary
[03:37] <Hobbsee> !faq
[03:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:38] <Hobbsee> there are lists of repositories for breezy there
[03:38] <warpforge> krax: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:38] <warpforge> krax: uncomment the "universe" repositories
[03:39] <Seveas> !tell warpforge about ubuntuguide
[03:39] <EPSONLX300> okey foXgamer
[03:39] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: Did that help?
[03:39] <Toma-> when installing a kernel update, do you need to reconfigure the nvidia drivers package?
[03:39] <krax> ok
[03:39] <Toma-> or anything crazy liek that?
[03:39] <zblach> hello
[03:39] <zblach> !ping
[03:39] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, zblach.
[03:39] <rubem> breener: sugesting 2.6.10
[03:39] <krax> now giv eit a go?
[03:39] <muszek> hello
[03:39] <Toma-> *like
[03:39] <mustard5> Toma-, commercial drivers I thin kyou do
[03:39] <rubem> mustard5: the ubuntu
[03:39] <warpforge> krax: then, "sudo apt-get update"
[03:39] <Toma-> rightio thanks
[03:40] <warpforge> (once you've saved)
[03:40] <eXcentra> I'm trying to extract some files from an archive but the filenames are in a foreign language and so it won't let me extract them. How can I extract them?
[03:40] <dooglus> eXcentra: what kind of archive?
[03:40] <krax> why doesn't it have all of the rep's uncommented to begin with?
[03:40] <krax> ok apt-get update is done
[03:40] <muszek> I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade (1 hour left)... should I expect some kind of a small disaster?
[03:40] <krax> now sudo apt-get install network-manager?
[03:40] <warpforge> krax: universe is only semi-supported
[03:40] <eXcentra> dooglus, rar
[03:41] <dooglus> eXcentra: you can probably tell it to extract all the files - then you won't have to type the names...
[03:41] <EPSONLX300> w8
[03:41] <brenner> rubem: default is 2.6.10 (do a uname -a to check)...it's probably a minor update
[03:41] <dooglus> eXcentra: rar x <archive>
[03:41] <mustard5> sounds pretty normal rubem
[03:41] <warpforge> krax: now, "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:41] <warpforge> it'll bring everything in line
[03:41] <wastrel> i'm having a situation wrt my printer, insofar as i can't print from kghostview
[03:41] <EPSONLX300> i am trying to print
[03:41] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: I hope it works
[03:41] <warpforge> krax: finally, "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[03:42] <eXcentra> dooglus, worked like a charm. Thanks a bunch! :D
[03:42] <krax> it has about 100 megs of stuff to download first
[03:42] <warpforge> yeah
[03:42] <EPSONLX300> after this will work i need to share to this in network thats my next questions
[03:42] <dooglus> eXcentra: glad I could help :)
[03:42] <krax> is this stuff pretty much sequential?  as in i need to finish doing all of this before i can install the network manager right?
[03:42] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: That I can't help you with. I know nothing about networks :(
[03:43] <warpforge> krax: it's sequential
[03:43] <dooglus> eXcentra: see also the nonfree-rar - I forget the exact package name - but it can open more .rar files than the free one
[03:43] <sydw_> Hobbsee, that worked great, thank you! I did have to re-install mozilla-mplayer yelp and ubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <chris_619> Hello everyone
[03:43] <warpforge> krax: you can't have two things using the package manager at once
[03:43] <EPSONLX300> :(
[03:43] <chris_619> I'm a linux noob
[03:43] <foXgamer> hey chris_619
[03:43] <krax> so the fact that isntalling network-manager earlier did not work is probably because i had not done this yet?
[03:43] <chris_619> Hey foxgamer
[03:43] <mustard5> chris_619, ask any questions you like
[03:43] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: There are plenty of people here that know about networks. Someone should be able to help :)
[03:43] <chris_619> Awesome!
[03:43] <warpforge> it's because you didn't have the repository enabled that has network-manager in it
[03:44] <Hobbsee> sydw_: awesome! :)
[03:44] <sydw_> the lovely "Update alert" applet has vanished from my top panel. How can I put it back?
[03:44] <krax> which was the universal ones?
[03:44] <brenner> chris_619: ubuntu-related would be good of course :)
[03:44] <warpforge> yes
[03:44] <chris_619> OK, number one, how do I get realplayer to work?
[03:44] <EPSONLX300> okey i will try to print if your links work
[03:44] <Hobbsee> sydw_: you probably have nothing more to update.  it will come back when it has packages for you to update
[03:44] <mustard5> !tell chris_619 about realplayer
[03:44] <sydw_> Hobbsee, ok, i get it!
[03:45] <Hobbsee> sydw_: it's this whole idea of "dont stick rubbish on the desktop if it's not needed or being used" which is awesome!
[03:45] <krax> which rep can i get xmss from?  or just apt-get install xmss?
[03:45] <sydw_> Hobbsee, thanks, I appreciate that!
[03:45] <chris_619> It doesn't necessarily have to be realplayer, anything that will play movies and music will do
[03:45] <keffynd> any chance that Ubuntu will or can include Ham Radio software in the repositories like SuSe Linux does?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> sydw_: no problems
[03:45] <warpforge> krax: It's xmms, for starters. I recommend beep-media-player over xmms.
[03:45] <mustard5> chris_619, use totem
[03:45] <EPSONLX300> well done foXgamer
[03:46] <EPSONLX300> thank you very much
[03:46] <AES_24_96> ok my other pc will also boot off the nero disk no problem but not the ubuntu disk
[03:46] <AES_24_96> do I need fpu compatiable thing on in bios or something?
[03:46] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: It worked? oh cool! Glad it did :)
[03:46] <warpforge> krax: "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player" will install beep
[03:46] <krax> do i need to install various codecs, etc before it can play all the formats?
[03:46] <mustard5> chris_619, totem-xine will play movies
[03:46] <warpforge> (and xmms)
[03:46] <EPSONLX300> next questions how can i share this to other networks?
[03:46] <AES_24_96> is there a way besides cd to install ubuntu?
[03:47] <MEtaLpREs> does anyone know if the kubuntu breezy release will also be on the 13th? or is it being delayed?
[03:47] <TylerDurden> seethru, r u here?
[03:47] <krax> the upgrades are almost done, brb
[03:47] <warpforge> k
[03:47] <Orborde> Is there an Ubuntu BitTorrent tracker list thingy somewhere where I can view the torrent's status?
[03:48] <Kris_k[1] > im trying to install dsl on my laptop but my menu.lst is blank :( and when i try to boot from the HD i get grub loading.... and thats it
[03:48] <bimberi> AES_24_96: yes there is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:48] <Sherman> hehe 1.5 days
[03:48] <AES_24_96> cool
[03:48] <TylerDurden> can someone help me with point2play and css?
[03:48] <chris_619> mustard_5, is there any particular way I have to configure Totem? It doesn't seem to recognize mpegs
[03:48] <keffynd> will breezy be an update option? I have just installed the current ubuntu
[03:49] <Hobbsee> keffynd: it's called dist-upgrade
[03:49] <cafuego_> keffynd: Yes.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> !tell keffynd about breezy
[03:49] <transparentdream> I have the quake2 and quake2-data pkgs installd, where can I find the actual game files?
[03:50] <bimberi> transparentdream: dpkg -L quake2 (or whatever the packages were called)
[03:50] <wastrel> ok.
[03:50] <wastrel> hello
[03:50] <wastrel> i <3 u
[03:50] <foXgamer> right. I'm off to ked. nn all
[03:50] <transparentdream> bimberi, for both pkgs?
[03:50] <xxtreme> sector10_ u there
[03:50] <TylerDurden> how can i access root's trash without logging into root?
[03:51] <bimberi> transparentdream: one at a time - it will list what files were installed
[03:51] <rubem> hey:
[03:51] <warpforge> why does root have trash?
[03:51] <rmj> reboot and log in using rescue mode
[03:51] <rubem> qemu or vmware?
[03:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey all. I'm having a problem. Simple one. My resolution won't go above 640x480
[03:51] <transparentdream> ok, now what?
[03:51] <HrdwrBob> !resolution
[03:51] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:51] <Xyc0> Hey guys, is it worth upgrading to Breezy yet?
[03:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Crys_Ubu_PC about fixres
[03:51] <nalioth> Xyc0: yes. go for it
[03:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Thank you nalioth I can always count on you.
[03:51] <muszek> join #ubuntu2
[03:52] <brenner> transparentdream: you need a copy of the game. :)
[03:52] <Xyc0> nalioth Is the RC stable as Hoary?
[03:52] <brenner> they're on the cd iirc
[03:52] <transparentdream> brenner: GAH! is there somthing free i can put instead?
[03:52] <sydw_> backwards typing in evolution composer -- its crazy -- has anyone experienced that?
[03:52] <bimberi> transparentdream: you asked where the files were...
[03:52] <nalioth> Xyc0: it runs purty good on my two machines
[03:53] <transparentdream> bimberi: sorry for not being clear i guess
[03:53] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:53] <xxtreme> nalioth_ i need help with irssi
[03:53] <nalioth> 108mb
[03:53] <Xyc0> nalioth: Thanks a ton, Im a little skeptic cause I messed with it a few months ago and had to reinstall Hoary
[03:53] <bimberi> transparentdream: np :)
[03:53] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: cube is good game that is free and is like Quake
[03:53] <nalioth> xxtreme: ask the channel
[03:53] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:53] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: how do i get it?
[03:53] <zucchi3> I don't understand how to download and run programs - for instance, I just downloaded the new beta version of Firefox for Linux. Now, how do I install it or open it?? - PLEASE HELP!!!
[03:53] <sydw_> damn keyboard layout never changes, keyboard never changes, but letters come out sdrawkcab <-- like that
[03:53] <wulfy814> anyone familiar with SATA hotswap ?
[03:53] <wulfy814> I have a drive rack that supposedly supports it
[03:54] <wulfy814> if i unmount the HD
[03:54] <wulfy814> and pull it, will I hurt anything?
[03:54] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: with synaptic
[03:54] <nalioth> wolverian: unmount any drives you are gonna hotswap
[03:54] <Aven> hello
[03:54] <wastrel> ok my printer is working - no thanks to you lot
[03:54] <nalioth> wulfy814: unmount any drives you are gonna hot swap
[03:54] <Aven> I'm using ubuntu as a webserver and..
[03:54] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
[03:54] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: ie, download it from there, and it will install
[03:54] <Aven> I have Perl installed but how do I load it in my apache conf?
[03:54] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:54] <zucchi3> how with synaptic??????????
[03:55] <zucchi3> I'll try??
[03:55] <wulfy814> nalioth: I gathered as much, but do you know if there are any known issues?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> open it, point and mark the ones to install
[03:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zucchi3 about synaptic
[03:55] <Hobbsee> go have a look
[03:55] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: thx
[03:55] <nalioth> wulfy814: nope. just unmount
[03:55] <transparentdream> oh wait
[03:55] <phiqtion> where can i know where the amsn package downloaded itself to from easy ubuntu?
[03:55] <nalioth> phiqtion: easy ubuntu website should provide help for you
[03:56] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: How do i install? ./configure make make install or wut?
[03:56] <nalioth> phiqtion: we've seen too many boxes screwed up from easyubuntu
[03:56] <zucchi3> I can't find it on synaptic - I think because it's a beta version. I have the file already.  I got it from their site. Now how do I use it?
[03:56] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: i think it is already compiled
[03:56] <phiqtion> nalioth, u dont recommend easy ubuntu?
[03:56] <wulfy814> next silly question....
[03:56] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: unpack it and run the script
[03:56] <xxtreme> anyone know how why systems is crashing after I made transparency in irssi? I configured my xorg conf files and enabled transparency, it was real slow so I changed it back to default, now kdialog send me a message when i reboot, saying the system crashes? any ideas?
[03:56] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: ok, i'll try it
[03:56] <wulfy814> I have some software that I compile from source (Asterisk)
[03:57] <wulfy814> I don't want it to break when I do "apt-get upgrade"
[03:57] <wulfy814> can I pin the kernel
[03:57] <wulfy814> so it will only upgrade the rest of the system?
[03:57] <warpforge> wulfy: you can, but i have no idea what it will do
[03:57] <nalioth> wulfy814: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[03:57] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: Where should i unpakc it to , anywhere?
[03:58] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: i just unpacked to my home folder
[03:58] <Crys_Ubu_PC> nalioth, You rock. ubotu, You rock more.
[03:58] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: doesnt really matter
[03:58] <krax> is kubutu effectively just a kde based ubutu?
[03:59] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> krax: yes, with no gnome
[03:59] <krax> k
[03:59] <warpforge> krax: yes
[03:59] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: It Worked! but one problem: it runs at 10 fps...I;ve got an ATI radeon 9800 pro, it should run fine!
[03:59] <krax> so i can do everything that synaptic can do from the command line?
[03:59] <wulfy814> thank you nalioth and warpforge
[03:59] <Hobbsee> krax: yep
[03:59] <wulfy814> does the kernel get upgraded often?
[03:59] <warpforge> krax: largely
[03:59] <warpforge> krax: synaptec just makes it easier
[04:00] <warpforge> krax: synaptex has a few search features what aren't built into apt
[04:00] <bimberi> Hobbsee: use the mouse :)
[04:00] <wastrel> <3 apt
[04:00] <Hobbsee> bimberi: hehehehe...that's true
[04:00] <phiqtion> whats the correct name for sypantic? apt get says it doesnt find it
[04:00] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: you need graphic acceleration
[04:00] <Hobbsee> bimberi: who needs mice...or touchpads...for installing software
[04:00] <Sherman> grr, someone has already registered my nick
[04:00] <wastrel> synaptic > dselect
[04:01] <Hobbsee> phiqtion: synaptic
[04:01] <macgeek> Sherman: is it registered? you can recover it
[04:01] <macgeek> darn too late
[04:01] <nalioth> wulfy814: this is YOUR box, you can pin what you like and do anything you like. keep in mind if you do anthing wild, we might not be able to help you
[04:01] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: And what am i missing that i dont have it already>
[04:01] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: there is not very good support for ATI stuff
[04:01] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: bah       should i just try to run my regular onboard card then?
[04:01] <bimberi> Hobbsee: too true! :)
[04:01] <kevogod> Well, the drivers DO work
[04:01] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:01] <moshe> is anyone here having a problem with backports?
[04:01] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: look in the howto in the ubuntu forums for ATI graphic acceleration
[04:01] <wulfy814> nalioth: I appreciate your help, I am looking to build a relatively stable box for asterisk, but I don't want to have to worry about security updates
[04:01] <transparentdream> moshe: I am
[04:02] <Aven> hmm
[04:02] <wulfy814> so I was thinking of doing apt-get upgrade in the cron
[04:02] <warpforge> krax: so, how are you using freenet and the repositories if your DNS is down?
[04:02] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: ok...thanks
[04:02] <Aven> how do you make files in ACSII mode?
[04:02] <brenner> transparentdream: try installing the driver
[04:02] <moshe> transparentdream, any ideas why?
[04:02] <wulfy814> but was worried it would automatically update the kernel and break asterisk
[04:02] <transparentdream> moshe: no clue
[04:02] <wulfy814> by so doing
[04:02] <kevogod> I am having a problem with Rhythmbox for no apparent reason, keeping getting a Segmentation Fault
[04:02] <nalioth> wulfy814: dont let it see the net
[04:02] <brenner> ubotu: tell transparentdream about ati
[04:02] <warpforge> wulfy: do not do that
[04:02] <transparentdream> brenner: how
[04:02] <moshe> hmmm
[04:02] <krax> im assuming because both of them determine the ip prior to use and run off of that
[04:02] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:02] <Xenguy> Aven: find and use a text editor ?
[04:02] <krax> i can go to yahoo if i type in the ip address i get from pinging the dns name
[04:02] <propagandhi> rubem: theres better IDE's than tulip
[04:02] <krax> no pictures pop up or anything like that
[04:03] <wulfy814> warpforge: and nalioth: I think I see a downside to the wonder of apt-get then, I must know what I'm doing to use it
[04:03] <Aven> Xenguy: I mean like...
[04:03] <wulfy814> unless I'm going to run a "stock" "standard" system
[04:03] <chjchjchj> Greets...am in the right place to ask a q about installing ubuntu?
[04:03] <Aven> I already have the files and it says to make put them in ACSII mode
[04:03] <wulfy814> with everything installed from the approved repositories
[04:03] <wulfy814> otherwise I run the risk of breaking things
[04:03] <Trashcan> yes chjchjchj
[04:03] <Xenguy> chjchjchj: yep
[04:03] <warpforge> wulfy: you just don't want to have auto installs of every upgrade
[04:03] <phiqtion> how can get synaptic working on ubuntu?
[04:03] <Trashcan> it shoudl be working automagically
[04:03] <Trashcan> whats the problem?
[04:03] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276 i think that is what you need
[04:04] <Sherman> lol my boss keeps walking into the store :P
[04:04] <phiqtion> trashcan, here in gnome it doesnt appear in the menu
[04:04] <Sherman> and my nick is registered already :(
[04:04] <zblach> hi
[04:04] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: kk
[04:04] <chjchjchj> ta...old-ish laptop with no floppy, no cd...no other pc handy...currently has a windoze 98 partition, so I can get to dos etc...is there a way to use partition magic create a little boot partition and install from the hdd?
[04:04] <wastrel> i hate printing problems on linux
[04:04] <warpforge> wulfy: look at the "cron-apt" package
[04:04] <zblach> a few quick questions.
[04:04] <rubem> propagandhi like what?
[04:05] <bimberi> phiqtion: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager ?
[04:05] <zblach> 1) How to set default applications for extensions? i.e. .mp3 w/ xmms
[04:05] <Kris_k[1] > im trying to install dsl on my laptop but my menu.lst is blank :( and when i try to boot from the HD i get grub loading.... and thats it
[04:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell zblach about defaultapp
[04:05] <warpforge> zblach: right click on a file and go to properties
[04:05] <Xenguy> !install
[04:05] <ubotu> install is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:06] <warpforge> zblach: there's a tab for the default program
[04:06] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:06] <zblach> warpforge, thanks. that was totally painless
[04:06] <zblach> 2) setting up an FTP server
[04:06] <Xenguy> zblach: vsftpd is worth a look I hear
[04:06] <brenner> chjchjchj: Xenguy's link was for you
[04:06] <bimberi> zblach: vsftpd seems to be regularly recommended
[04:07] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:07] <Trashcan> zblach: vsft... damn you guys typing fast
[04:07] <warpforge> zblach: "sudo apt-get install vsftpd"
[04:07] <chjchjchj> nobody ever used the dosutil/autoboot stuff on other dirtros? anyone know howto for ubuntu?
[04:07] <krax> brenner-working like a charm
[04:07] <transparentdream> How do I see what kernel I'm currently running
[04:07] <krax> both beep and the dns problem i was having earlier
[04:07] <kevogod> I think Blackjack is rigged.
[04:07] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:08] <krax> beep media player gives me an error that says i need to enable plugins but then it goes and plays the song
[04:08] <krax> so i just checked the shits that said not to warn me again
[04:08] <Xenguy> !tell chjchjchj about install
[04:08] <andrewfk> best ide is vim
[04:08] <bimberi> transparentdream: "uname -r" in a terminal
[04:08] <Trashcan> agreed
[04:08] <TylerDurden> how come i cant eject the cd when the ut2k4 install asks me to insert cd 2?
[04:08] <warpforge> krax: do you have all the gstreamer packages installed?
[04:08] <krax> no
[04:08] <brenner> krax: good to hear....although i didn't help you with either of them. :)
[04:08] <bimberi> kevogod: just like in a casino :)
[04:08] <krax> err im a retard
[04:08] <krax> lol
[04:08] <krax> its late
[04:08] <zblach> warpforge, cool. is it easy to set up?
[04:08] <brenner> warpforge, krax no need.....bmp has it's own codecs iirc
[04:08] <warpforge> tyler: you have unmount the disk
[04:08] <krax> warpforge,  :)
[04:08] <wastrel> pls 2 help me with my linux printing
[04:08] <wastrel> printing
[04:08] <TylerDurden> warforge how do i do that?
[04:09] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:09] <Trashcan> wastrel set up us the bomb
[04:09] <ishtvan22> TylerDurden: when i installed ut2k4 i copied the install script
[04:09] <warpforge> tyler: right-click on the disk on your desktop or anywhere else
[04:09] <warpforge> tyler: click "Unmount"
[04:09] <warpforge> it will eject
[04:09] <zblach> take off every wastrel
[04:09] <wastrel> for great justice
[04:09] <TylerDurden> warforge.. thats what i mean when i say it wont let me eject
[04:09] <warpforge> ah
[04:09] <TylerDurden> it says its busy, but ut2k4 asks me to insert ccd 2
[04:09] <wastrel> that's a pretty good secret password
[04:10] <kevogod> TylerDurden, You have to unmount from the terminal and force it
[04:10] <TylerDurden> eject?
[04:10] <TylerDurden> i mean is that the comand?
[04:10] <warpforge> tyler: kevo's suggestion probably requires sudo
[04:10] <benkong2> hey folks what would cause me not to be able to ssh into my *nix* box from my lan? No firewall I think. Fresh breezy install
[04:10] <Xenguy> TylerDurden: yeh
[04:10] <krax> whats the package name for all the codecs necessary to play divx avi and wmv files?
[04:10] <starscalling> help >_<
[04:10] <Trashcan> hmm
[04:10] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:10] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:10] <TylerDurden> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[04:10] <wastrel> i send you this message in order to have your advice
[04:10] <warpforge> benkong: breezy indeed has no firewall
[04:10] <Xenguy> krax: w32codecs
[04:10] <Sherman> bah, someone else has already registered my nickname with a password I dont know, so that freenode howto doesnt work :P
[04:10] <starscalling> i cant seem to get a successful build on install XML::parser
[04:10] <Trashcan> sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0
[04:11] <kevogod> sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0
[04:11] <warpforge> benkong: have you installed the SSH server?
[04:11] <starscalling> i get all kinds of errors :/
[04:11] <Trashcan> winnneerr
[04:11] <kevogod> ..
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount2: Device or resource busy
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount2: Device or resource busy
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:11] <Trashcan> ...touche
[04:11] <benkong2> warpforge; good question let me check
[04:11] <Trashcan> you sudo -f?
[04:11] <TylerDurden> yeah i copy pasted
[04:11] <Trashcan> sudo *and* -f
[04:11] <kevogod> Try -l
[04:11] <Trashcan> oh, weird
[04:12] <TylerDurden> -l doesnt do anything
[04:12] <kevogod> err not that
[04:12] <warpforge> krax: is your stuff working now?
[04:12] <benkong2> warpforge; that was the problem thanks :-)))
[04:12] <Trashcan> -l = lazy unmount :\
[04:12] <krax> yep.. what program do you use to view videos?
[04:12] <wastrel> tyler durden is some b list celebrity right?
[04:12] <kevogod> sudo umount -l /media/cdrom0
[04:12] <TylerDurden> thats whta i meant lol
[04:12] <Trashcan> tyler durden is brad pitt in fight club
[04:12] <Trashcan> the alternate personality
[04:12] <TylerDurden> it doesnt do anything
[04:12] <warpforge> krax: I use Mplayer mostly, sometimes totem
[04:12] <wastrel> ah
[04:12] <wastrel> never saw that
[04:12] <jsubl2> krax, mplayer sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:12] <seethru> anyone here using wireless AND a custom kernel?
[04:13] <TylerDurden> umount2: Invalid argument
[04:13] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted
[04:13] <TylerDurden> thats what it says now afte rthe -l command but i still cant eject
[04:13] <Trashcan> aha
[04:13] <krax> ok and the codecs for that program to view divx avi and wmv?
[04:13] <Trashcan> it worked
[04:13] <Trashcan> now you should be able to ejec
[04:13] <Trashcan> t
[04:13] <Trashcan> ?
[04:13] <kevogod> lol
[04:13] <jsubl2> krax, hoary or breezy
[04:13] <seethru> TylerDurden: sudo eject /media/cdrom0
[04:13] <warpforge> krax is on breezy
[04:13] <krax> breezy
[04:14] <TylerDurden> there we go. thanks seethru
[04:14] <kevogod> UT2004 always has mounting problems.
[04:14] <TylerDurden> btw seethru i was waiting for u
[04:14] <jsubl2> krax, i get them from mplayer web site
[04:14] <TylerDurden> like i thought, those changes in profiles wont change anyhting
[04:14] <kevogod> It has to do with the installer script being outdated on the CD/DVD
[04:14] <TylerDurden> i enabled antiosptic (sp) filtering and i get the same framerate
[04:14] <Trashcan> is there any technical difference between /dev/cdrom, /media/cdrom, and /media/cdrom0?
[04:14] <TylerDurden> kevogod, u mean my dvd is bad or just their script?
[04:14] <Trashcan> they all point to the same device on my box
[04:14] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Their script
[04:15] <seethru> anyone? custom kernel with wireless? I've got a small question regarding the prism drivers
[04:15] <warpforge> krax: you can get the codecs via apt-get
[04:15] <krax> what's their name?
[04:15] <kevogod> Trashcan, /dev/cdrom and /media/cdrom are symbolic links
[04:15] <Trashcan> ...good call
[04:16] <wastrel> the nick you own ends up owning you
[04:16] <warpforge> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg w32codecs libdivx4linux lame sox ffmpeg mjpegtools vorbis-tools
[04:16] <kevogod> Trashcan, and that would be the technical difference
[04:16] <warpforge> krax: then run "gst-register-0.8"
[04:16] <Trashcan> :) why thank you sir
[04:16] <TylerDurden> kevogod, grr now i cant mount anything
[04:16] <TylerDurden> it wont read the cd
[04:16] <TylerDurden> sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[04:16] <TylerDurden> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:16] <krax> i need to get mplayer first?
[04:16] <warpforge> you should
[04:16] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Read-only is correct
[04:17] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Because well, CDs are read-only
[04:17] <Trashcan> /dev/hdc?
[04:17] <warpforge> order shouldn't matter, though
[04:17] <TylerDurden> kevogod, but it wont mount my other cd now
[04:17] <jsubl2> !find win32codecs
[04:17] <TylerDurden> TylerDurden, it still says cd 1
[04:17] <TylerDurden> instead of cd 2
[04:17] <warpforge> krax: aptitude takes care of any dependency issues
[04:17] <Trashcan> !tell jsubl2 about w32codecs
[04:17] <TylerDurden> and it wont continue in install
[04:17] <jsubl2> !find w32codecs
[04:17] <Trashcan> what ar eyou trying to do jsub?
[04:18] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:18] <Xenguy> ubotu: are you here?
[04:18] <ubotu> Xenguy: I don't know
[04:18] <Trashcan> !tell jsubl2 about restricted formats
[04:18] <krax> ok so apt get that stuff from above and the rest is taken care of?
[04:18] <Trashcan> follow that guide
[04:18] <Joxer> can anyone help me with a gcc problem i have ? It says C compiler cannot create executables
[04:18] <chjchjchj> uboto / Xenguy thanks for the url (which I finally spotted was for me); am trawling thru the docs now
[04:18] <rubem> nobody knows?
[04:18] <warpforge> !tell krax about restricted formats
[04:18] <rubem> seveas, naliorh???
[04:18] <Xenguy> chjchjchj: yw, good luck
[04:18] <rubem> seveas, nalioth???
[04:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'win32codecs' returned no results.
[04:19] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:19] <Jenny_v> hey guys
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> damn I wish there was an esier way to handle gentoo's config files
[04:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'w32codecs' returned no results.
[04:19] <krax> it didn't find one of those files you referred to in your apt-get
[04:19] <warpforge> which one?
[04:20] <Lord_Maynoth> man I cannot wait
[04:20] <kevogod> TylerDurden, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[04:20] <Jenny_v> lol ok so i just got ubuntu on this machine after i literally killed my windows and i want to know how to get Java from the bin file to installed
[04:20] <Lord_Maynoth> I wish breezy was out
[04:20] <quendi> cool..got my own theme setup..just wondering, how do i change the splash screen? i have a login theme installed, but would like to have a noia splashscreen
[04:20] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[04:20] <warpforge> krax: the list is for hoary, so i wouldn't be surprised if one were missing
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jenny_v about java
[04:20] <TylerDurden> kevogod, i got it already
[04:20] <Joxer> can anyone please help me with a gcc problem i have ? It says C compiler cannot create executables
[04:20] <Jenny_v> damn youre fast
[04:20] <warpforge> joxer: do you have build-essential?
[04:20] <rubem> where can I find emacs?
[04:20] <krax> ok cool
[04:21] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know if breezy will automount windows fat and ntfs drives
[04:21] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Sorry if I respond slow, kind of working on multiple stuff
[04:21] <Lord_Maynoth> by default
[04:21] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[04:21] <Joxer> warpforge, build-essential ?
[04:21] <rubem> emacs is not at the repos!!!
[04:21] <TylerDurden> np thnx anyway, learned some new commands
[04:21] <logical_mark> Lord_Matboth - It can but does not by default
[04:21] <warpforge> joxer: it's what libraries you minimally need to build applications
[04:21] <bimberi> rubem: emacs21
[04:21] <warpforge> joxer: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:21] <Joxer> warpforge, i kinda just got it with synaptic
[04:21] <logical_mark> Lord_Mayboth - It can but does not by default - you will have to tell it to do that, and I do not know how to tell you
[04:21] <warpforge> okay
[04:21] <Jenny_v> ok once i have it downloaded dont i have to type something in the terminal window
[04:22] <rubem> bimberi: thanks
[04:22] <warpforge> joxer: working now?
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> when do you guys think ubuntu will automount windows partitions maybe by dapper drake
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> xandros does it automatically
[04:22] <Joxer> warpforge, 2sec
[04:22] <bimberi> rubem: yw :)
[04:22] <Kyral> Its does..you just have to enable it ;P
[04:23] <rubem> bimberi: how do I install sintax headligth?
[04:23] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah but shouldn't it just work (tm)
[04:23] <Joxer> warpforge, yeah, thanks man :)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> !tell Lord_Maynoth about faq
[04:23] <JBlazex43> OK. im a huge noob to ubuntu i installed on my powerbook and need to reformat and install OSx . Can anyone tell me how to boot a cd.
[04:23] <Crys_Ubu_PC> nalioth, That totally worked. Thanks.
[04:23] <Hobbsee> it seems like breezy does recognise some, but there's the manual guide to do it
[04:23] <bimberi> rubem: sorry i don't know - others might though
[04:24] <Kyral> I donno. I find no use for the thing. Actually doesn't the installer give you the option to do that?
[04:24] <Hobbsee> JBlazex43: make sure your bios is set to boot from cd first
[04:24] <warpforge> Hobbsee: JBlazex is on Mac
[04:24] <warpforge> Mac doesn't have a normal "BIOS"
[04:24] <wastrel> mac eh
[04:24] <nalioth> Crys_Ubu_PC: np
[04:24] <Hobbsee> warpforge: my error, i thought all computers did
[04:24] <JBlazex43> Yes. its weird. i was messing around with ubuntu and now i need to know how to remove.
[04:24] <wastrel> you have the rom dealy
[04:25] <wastrel> bios is for pc compatible
[04:25] <Karasu> hi all
[04:25] <Hobbsee> ah...right...
[04:25] <warpforge> JBlazex, Macs should try to boot from CD by default
[04:25] <bytefoo> is there a firewall on by default?
[04:25] <Karasu> I just installed Nvidia driver
[04:25] <viper``> help
[04:25] <warpforge> bytefoo: no
[04:26] <viper``> i cant install the ubuntu
[04:26] <bytefoo> blast...
[04:26] <Karasu> and the resolution is only 1024/768
[04:26] <filloy> ?
[04:26] <warpforge> !tell viper`` about installation
[04:26] <viper``> i cant find the setup exe
[04:26] <Karasu> supose to be 1050/1200
[04:26] <warpforge> !tell viper`` about instal
[04:26] <JBlazex43> hold on im gonna check the apple support page first. BRB AFK
[04:26] <bytefoo> :/
[04:26] <warpforge> !tell viper`` about install
[04:26] <Karasu> anyone here can help?
[04:27] <warpforge> Karasu, I assume you mean 1050x1400?
[04:27] <thechitowncubs> Who likes ubuntu here?
[04:27] <Karasu> yes sory
[04:27] <Jenny_v> i think ubuntu is ok
[04:27] <propagandhi> KarasU: not a single person
[04:27] <caike> lol
[04:27] <Jenny_v> cant seem to figure it out
[04:27] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:27] <caike> propagandhi, that band rocks
[04:27] <stpere> thechitowncubs, me
[04:27] <propagandhi> caike: indeed they do
[04:28] <warpforge> I'd say I like Ubuntu, considering that it's the only OS I use.
[04:28] <filloy> thechitowncubs i preffere kubuntu :p but the system is nice
[04:28] <Jenny_v> lol warpforge are you good at it
[04:28] <caike> warpforge, for how long have you been using it ?
[04:28] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, That is probably
[04:28] <propagandhi> I meant thechitownclubs before too
[04:28] <Lord_Maynoth> man... I cannot wait to see what ubuntu will be like in 5 year
[04:28] <Lord_Maynoth> 5 years
[04:28] <propagandhi> not Karasu
[04:28] <tristan622ph> what IDE for C++ do you prefer? in linux/Ubuntu
[04:28] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, hmm.. bad question
[04:28] <warpforge> I've been with Ubuntu for a few months.
[04:28] <thechitowncubs> ha
[04:28] <ColonelKernel> Im going to be migrating to gentoo but ill still use ubuntu on another box, and IM probably going to migrate my stepmom's workplace over to ubuntu
[04:28] <Lord_Maynoth> I hope the funding doesn't run out by then
[04:28] <thechitowncubs> any of you people involved with the ubuntu project?
[04:29] <Karasu> is gnome using xorg.conf?
[04:29] <warpforge> Colonel: One does not simply "migrate" to Gentoo. It's a life decision.
[04:29] <Karasu> if so all my mode are Modes		"1400x1050"
[04:29] <kevogod> Lord_Maynoth, In 5 years, you will have a circle of friends.
[04:29] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: what do you mean by 'involved'?
[04:29] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[04:29] <warpforge> Karasu: yes, xorg.conf
[04:29] <caike> warpforge, I've been with it for a couple of weeks and I've been having few issues...
[04:29] <Lord_Maynoth> i doubt it
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> ajmitch_, like do something for ubuntu?
[04:29] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: yes
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> ajmitch_, what have you done
[04:29] <Trashcan> hi ajmitch_ :)
[04:29] <wastrel> hello i have a printing problem
[04:30] <Jenny_v> ok people i have the jave thing downloaded how do i install?
[04:30] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: I've helped fix a couple of packages :)
[04:30] <caike> warpforge,  I don't know if maybe it's my hard-drive, but after a few days my Ubuntu is getting soooo slow
[04:30] <thechitowncubs> ajmitch_, cool cool
[04:30] <warpforge> !tell ajmitch_ about java
[04:30] <wastrel> when i print something, it prints out but then cups doesn't clear the job from the queue
[04:30] <Joxer> what's the path to "libtcl.so" in ubuntu? i cant seem to find it.
[04:30] <wastrel> it just sits there clogging up the queue
[04:30] <ajmitch_> warpforge: erm, that wasn't necessary thanks
[04:30] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:30] <thechitowncubs> anyone want to help market/share ubuntu?
[04:30] <gnuts> hello
[04:30] <tristan622ph> in 3days of using ubuntu, i have learned a lot from this OS.
[04:30] <warpforge> !tell Jenny_v about java
[04:30] <Jenny_v> im the one that wanted to know about java
[04:30] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: in other words, I'm a MOTU
[04:30] <Jenny_v> and btw
[04:30] <warpforge> ajmitch: sorry, wrong person for "java" help
[04:31] <tristan622ph> i found out that linux is better than windows
[04:31] <Jenny_v> ive already gotten that message
[04:31] <Jenny_v> i want to install it now
[04:31] <Jenny_v> not download it
[04:31] <Jenny_v> im past that step
[04:31] <warpforge> okay
[04:31] <Lord_Maynoth> so will the official openoffice2 replace the beta when it comes out in breezy?
[04:31] <warpforge> one sec
[04:31] <_jason> Jenny_v:  that page tells you everything
[04:31] <Jenny_v> ok
[04:31] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, unlikely
[04:31] <caike> I could use some help adding other resolutions to my gnome.. I have 1024x768 , but I want a higher one... anyone ?
[04:31] <Jenny_v> what page
[04:31] <Jenny_v> the page i clicked on
[04:31] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam
[04:31] <Lord_Maynoth> really
[04:31] <Jenny_v> gave me a directory of files to download
[04:31] <warpforge> Jenny: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[04:31] <kevogod> Lord_Maynoth, Well, perhaps late in Breezy's reign
[04:32] <bytefoo> i would think they would put the upgrade up
[04:32] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, we are frozen, new versions don't happen after release
[04:32] <Lord_Maynoth> wow...
[04:32] <filloy> colonel: i use gentoo, great distro, but i have ubuntu in my lap cuz i need eficiency and less time to install apps....:p gentoo is all about learning the underware of linux :S
[04:32] <Lord_Maynoth> oh well
[04:32] <Joxer> anyone know how to get tcl up and working porpperly ? :/
[04:32] <Lord_Maynoth> maybe i can use autopackage to install it
[04:32] <warpforge> Lord: Backports will contain updated versions.
[04:32] <bytefoo> that can't be right, i thought they supported each version for 18 months
[04:32] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:32] <kevogod> That is actually not true. Firefox was updated to a higher version number.
[04:32] <kevogod> In Hoary
[04:32] <_jason> Jenny_v:  oh you downloaded the .deb, nvr mnd
[04:32] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:32] <warpforge> bytefoo: only for security updates
[04:32] <gnuts> i've been using the 'add programs' (nice feature) installed frozen bubble but get no sound (other sounds work) and can't get Mplayer (says multiverse isnt active when it is. any thoughts?
[04:33] <filloy> how many girls in here ?
[04:33] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:33] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if we started upgrading in the stable release, what is the point of making a stable release?
[04:33] <warpforge> !tell Lord_Maynoth about backports
[04:33] <Jenny_v> general@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[04:33] <Jenny_v> Password:
[04:33] <Jenny_v> dpkg: error processing package_file.deb (--install):
[04:33] <Jenny_v>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:33] <Jenny_v> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:33] <Jenny_v>  package_file.deb
[04:33] <Jenny_v> general@ubuntu:~$
[04:33] <Razor-X> have there been changes to TOC recently?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> filloy: me, why?
[04:33] <Jenny_v> oh god
[04:33] <thechitowncubs> Jenny_v, BAD GIRL
[04:33] <bytefoo> it says security updates and fixes
[04:33] <Burgundavia> Jenny_v, please don't spam
[04:33] <nalioth> Jenny_v: pleae friend, dont paste in here
[04:33] <Razor-X> Jenny_v: please do not paste more than 3 lines in this channel
[04:33] <Jenny_v> im not im lost
[04:33] <kevogod> It could be argued that backporting security fixes causes instability.
[04:33] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[04:33] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:33] <fialar> hey all I have a quick question.. after an initial ubuntu install, what is the root pw set to?
[04:33] <warpforge> Jenny: close Synaptec and your update manager
[04:33] <Burgundavia> kevogod, only if upstream is being dumb (The Moz project)
[04:33] <Jenny_v> lol fialar
[04:34] <Hobbsee> !tell fialar about root
[04:34] <Jenny_v> you have to set that password
[04:34] <fialar> Jenny_v: it's not for me, it's for a friend of mine
[04:34] <Jenny_v> when you install the ubuntu on your machine
[04:34] <propagandhi> no its the same as the password you choose
[04:34] <HappyHobo> Hi folks
[04:34] <filloy> hobbsee just wanted to know if there was a girl arround :p         girls using linux are the sexiest ones in the world....:P (and im not hitting on you...or however its said)
[04:34] <kevogod> Burgundavia, Well, Firefox was updated to the upstream version in Hoary, so the version freeze doesn't always apply.
[04:34] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:34] <Burgundavia> kevogod, that is due to the Mozilla project being bad upstreams and not seperating out security patches
[04:35] <Hobbsee> filloy: oh good!  yes, there would be the odd few girls in hiding.  i can tell you it feels really weird being called a gentleman :P
[04:35] <nalioth> Hobbsee: is did correct myself
[04:35] <kevogod> Burgundavia, I was actually quite surprised to see an upstream build.
[04:35] <warpforge> Burgundavia: the 1.0.x updates are almost completely security and stability
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> well I hope they update to the new openoffice2 official release
[04:35] <nalioth> Hobbsee: i did i did
[04:35] <Burgundavia> kevogod, notice that of all the security patches, they are the only that is forced to be upgraded to a new version
[04:35] <propagandhi> virual women, the best kind hey
[04:35] <Burgundavia> warpforge, yes, but they break all kinds of things
[04:35] <propagandhi> *virtual
[04:35] <fialar> ahh I see.. root logins disabled, but sudo works
[04:35] <fialar> ok thanks :)
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> thats why we need autopackage
[04:35] <filloy> Hobbsee yep, sometimes they ask me if im a girl, cuz mi nick :P you seem nice :)
[04:35] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i know you did, i was meaning it as an example - you're not the only one to call me a gentleman
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[04:36] <Burgundavia> warpforge, we don't want a new version, we want a patch that fixes the specific security hole
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> not being able to connect using the old version of gaim was so annoying
[04:36] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, no, actually
[04:36] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, not being able to connect is a bug, so file one
[04:36] <gnuts> anyone have time for a question?
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> burg
[04:36] <Jenny_v> ok ppl
[04:36] <kevogod> gnuts, We all have time.
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> it was not a bug
[04:36] <Jenny_v> i typed this
[04:36] <Jenny_v> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> it was because the version was outdated
[04:36] <gnuts> Ok, here goes
[04:36] <gnuts> i've been using the 'add programs' (nice feature) installed frozen bubble but get no sound (other sounds work) and can't get Mplayer (says multiverse isnt active when it is. any thoughts?
[04:36] <Jenny_v> and got the same error message
[04:36] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if the program doesn't work, it is a bug
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> trilian and game become out dated and need patching as yahoo and msn aim etc change their code
[04:37] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if someone had filed it, we would have been able to pull the specific pathc for the specific fix and then apply that
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> wasn't a bug
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[04:37] <kevogod> Lord_Maynoth, Nice way to butcher the names of the two programs.
[04:37] <JBlazex43> ok i got it to "try" to boot but it freezes.
[04:37] <nalioth> Jenny_v: what error was that?
[04:37] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:37] <filloy> ahhh hope Breezy gets my bug fixed :S i hated the preview because of that :p
[04:37] <nalioth> Jenny_v: just one line, please
[04:37] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, how is "the program doesn't do what it is supposed to do" not a bug?
[04:37] <Jenny_v> error processing sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb (--install):
[04:37] <Jenny_v>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:38] <nferno> i'm new to linux and don't know how to do anything. how do i install programs? firefox for example
[04:38] <warpforge> Jenny, you don't have any other package managers running?
[04:38] <nalioth> Jenny_v: did you get it from a torrent or a direct download?
[04:38] <Lord_Maynoth> well is a virus scan going out of date a bug, what about a program whos code is too old to connect to servers running new code
[04:38] <Jenny_v> nope
[04:38] <HrdwrBob> nferno: firefox is already installed
[04:38] <Lord_Maynoth> same difference
[04:38] <Jenny_v> just terminal
[04:38] <nalioth> Jenny_v: nope what?
[04:38] <propagandhi> no such file or directory - pretty obvious
[04:38] <Lord_Maynoth> the software functioned perfectly
[04:38] <ianu> When Breezy comes out, will Ubuntu start shipping the CD's?
[04:38] <filloy> nferno open Synaptic Package Mannager and search firefox :) then choose apply
[04:38] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, we have hoary-upgrades for that specific reason
[04:38] <Burgundavia> ianu, yes
[04:39] <jsubl2> Jenny_v, try using the full path to the deb
[04:39] <nferno> HrdwrBog: firefox was just an example. im trying to install kismet
[04:39] <stpere> gnuts, quick way to get it working :
[04:39] <rvrocha> good nite
[04:39] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, the program claims it can connect to MSN. If MSN breaks things and the version in Hoary doesn't work, file a bug, because it doesn't do what is promised it could do
[04:39] <stpere> press ALT+F2, type killall esd
[04:39] <filloy> nferno: you will have to learn all about repositories and that sort of stuff, i suggest you reading the begginers book :P
[04:39] <Jenny_v> what do you mean by full path
[04:39] <stpere> gnuts, then start frozenbubble
[04:39] <Rev-Marc> is there a firefox help channel?
[04:39] <gnuts> nferno, is it in your synaptic list?
[04:40] <rvrocha> How can I politely ask a question? ;)
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> well in the mean time... I will use autopackage to provide me with the latest versions
[04:40] <filloy> rvrocha uhmm, ask ?
[04:40] <nferno> gnuts: no
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> which is really cool imho
[04:40] <nalioth> Jenny_v: did you direct download or use a torrent to get the java deb?
[04:40] <jsubl2> Jenny_v, sudo dpkg -i /home/jenny/filename.deb
[04:40] <nalioth> rvrocha: ask it
[04:40] <rvrocha> ok
[04:40] <Jenny_v> i guess it was direct
[04:40] <Jenny_v> i clicked on a link on a webpage and downloaded
[04:40] <rvrocha> Do u guys install hardware support for nVidia cards?
[04:40] <nalioth> Jenny_v: did you get ALL of the file?
[04:40] <Jenny_v> yes
[04:40] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:40] <gnuts> nferno, go to the wiki on adding repositories - it's good and helpful
[04:41] <rvrocha> Do you use nVidia installer for doing so?
[04:41] <propagandhi> Rev-Marc: after you close it are there any firefox processes still running
[04:41] <Burgundavia> rvrocha, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[04:41] <benkong2> will sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop give me kbuntu also?
[04:41] <rvrocha> thx
[04:41] <Rev-Marc> How do I check?
[04:41] <propagandhi> in the terminal - ps -aux
[04:41] <warpforge> benkong: If you spell Kubuntu correctly, yes
[04:41] <propagandhi> or ps -aux | grep firefox
[04:42] <filloy> Rev-Marc ha ! its like the 5th time i read your question.  I dont really know the answer, but i would try to reinstall and see if the problem persist. if it does, come back and ask again, im shure someboy will help
[04:42] <benkong2> warpforge; k thanks
[04:42] <viper``> i cant install the ubuntu.. what do i do?
[04:42] <rvrocha> beautiful
[04:42] <DShepherd> viper``: What do you mean?
[04:42] <warpforge> viper: you're being entirely too vague, and i already sent you a link to the Installation guide
[04:42] <Xenguy> viper``: be more specific
[04:42] <gnuts> stpere, thanks that worked. do i need to do it each time i turn on the pc?
[04:42] <rvrocha> Is 5.10 already stable?
[04:42] <filloy> ahhh, im off, goodbye ya fellas ! :P
[04:43] <rvrocha> bye
[04:43] <filloy> rvrocha, not untill tomorrow...
[04:43] <nferno> thanks everyone for the help
[04:43] <DShepherd> rvrocha: stable enough
[04:43] <rvrocha> cool
[04:43] <kevogod> It isn't stable until 2 days I thought...
[04:43] <frank23> rvrocha: its stable, although probably not as stable as 5.04
[04:43] <stpere> gnuts, yeah, I think so... :-(
[04:43] <Rev-Marc> I don't see anything related to firefox running
[04:43] <gnuts> stpere, ok, still cool that it works!
[04:44] <figment> Hi.
[04:44] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: ps aux |grep firefox
[04:44] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: or pkill firefox (if need be)
[04:44] <Joxer> Can anyone please help me? Im trying to configure eggdrop, But it cant find the path to tcl, And i think tcl is installed default in ubuntu, But it says it cant find tcl, And asks me where it is, Anybody know where it is ?
[04:44] <rvrocha> What about HP Multifuncional Printers? Is it possible to install them? Any Wiki path? :)
[04:45] <bytefoo> there is no setup.exe :/
[04:45] <warpforge> joxer: breezy comes with tcl 8.4
[04:45] <rvrocha> lol
[04:45] <Joxer> warpforge, yeah, But it asks me to give a path to libtcl.so
[04:45] <nalioth> Joxer: use synaptic
[04:46] <warpforge> Joxer: TCL is under "/usr/lib/tcl8.4"
[04:46] <benkong2> nighty nighty all
[04:46] <rvrocha> nite!
[04:46] <figment> Uhm, I'm having a problem.  I ran the update manager, two of the updates are for Firefox, but it gave an error when it tried to install them, and now Firefox won't start at all.
[04:46] <bimberi> rvrocha: well yes there is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[04:47] <gigaclon> you using back ports figment?
[04:47] <figment> I don't know.
[04:47] <warpforge> Aha! Joxer: you need tcl8.4-dev
[04:47] <regeya_> careful...
[04:47] <rvrocha> thx
[04:47] <regeya_> if you don't know, gigaclon, you're not.
[04:47] <Joxer> warpforge, aaaah, thanks ill try :)
[04:47] <warpforge> Joxer: See this: http://s23.org/wiki/Libtcl.so
[04:47] <regeya_> btw, I'm using backports, and firefox is a-ok.
[04:48] <Rev-Marc> Xenguy something about -remote ping and -a firefox
[04:48] <rvrocha> thx again, guys. U rule!
[04:48] <figment> My sister set everything up, and told me how to run updates.  But she's in Sweden right now.
[04:48] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: tried the 'pkill' suggestion?
[04:48] <Rev-Marc> Xenguy trying now
[04:49] <enajeirak> hello, anyone know how to take down firewall in ubuntu
[04:49] <Xeon3D> figment: can I have her email addy? it's hard to find linux chicks around here where I live .. (joking) :D
[04:49] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: then try the ps again
[04:49] <Xenguy> enajeirak: what firewall?
[04:49] <enajeirak> im having a mental breakdown
[04:49] <JBlazex43> ok i fixed it apple has a thing called TARGET DISK MODE
[04:49] <JBlazex43> thanks anyhoo
[04:49] <warpforge> enajeirak: no firewall on ubuntu unless you installed one
[04:49] <JBlazex43> :)
[04:49] <figment> Lol, she's in Sweden with her boyfriend.  ;)
[04:49] <JBlazex43> works fine.
[04:49] <Xenguy> enajeirak: pull out your hair instead ;-)
[04:50] <enajeirak> well i think it came with an update, and my file sharing says that i have one enbabled?
[04:50] <enajeirak> ahhaha
[04:50] <viper``> warpforge: i use everything.. but it didnt boot at all
[04:50] <warpforge> enajeirak: you need to forward ports
[04:50] <warpforge> from your router
[04:50] <enajeirak> oh my gosh,
[04:50] <andrewfk> does anybody know the address for the marillat repository
[04:50] <enajeirak> i totally forgot i had my router hooked back up
[04:50] <enajeirak> im retarted
[04:50] <viper``> when i look at the ubuntu file ...the size is 0 kb
[04:50] <Rev-Marc> Xengs now it opens again, I closed it and it opened back up thank you
[04:51] <warpforge> viper: what ubuntu file?
[04:51] <enajeirak> thank you, you see i worked 20 hours today and thats what happens
[04:51] <viper``> i think the exe file is corrupted
[04:51] <warpforge> viper: linux doesn't use EXEs
[04:51] <Trashcan> lol
[04:51] <viper``> how can i boot it?
[04:51] <viper``> im new in linux
[04:51] <Trashcan> well techincally, EXE stands for executable and linux *does* use executables
[04:51] <Trashcan> but i'll agree with you :)
[04:51] <Trashcan> elf vs coff
[04:52] <viper``> :)
[04:52] <warpforge> viper, have you set your computer to boot from CD?
[04:52] <viper``> yup
[04:52] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: yw
[04:52] <warpforge> viper, does booting to a different CD work?
[04:52] <enajeirak> buh buy, must bypass stupid router, thanks
[04:52] <viper``> but the thing is it doesnt start automatically...i mean the installation
[04:52] <warpforge> have you pressed ENTER when it comes up with the first prompt?
[04:53] <viper``> should i type anythng??
[04:53] <viper``> no prompt
[04:53] <Trashcan> nol
[04:53] <Trashcan> oh?
[04:53] <warpforge> viper, not unless you want to server version
[04:53] <viper``> ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386
[04:53] <warpforge> just press ENTER with the empty line
[04:53] <viper``> i jst downloaded it yesterday
[04:53] <Trashcan> how did you burn it
[04:53] <viper``> using nero
[04:53] <Trashcan> did you drag it onto the cd
[04:53] <viper``> data only
[04:54] <Trashcan> nope
[04:54] <Xeon3D> viper`` did you go to recorder -> burn image option?
[04:54] <Trashcan> when you put it in
[04:54] <warpforge> viper, if you're so new to linux, i suggest you wait until the full release in a day or two
[04:54] <viper``> yup
[04:54] <Trashcan> you choose 'recorder->burn image'
[04:54] <viper``> yes
[04:54] <Trashcan> hmm
[04:54] <Trashcan> weird
[04:54] <viper``> when i extracted the .iso
[04:54] <warpforge> that's the issue
[04:54] <viper``> the file of ubuntu on the main directory is 0kb
[04:54] <Xeon3D> you can't extract the .iso
[04:54] <warpforge> you can't extract the ISO
[04:54] <warpforge> echo?
[04:54] <warpforge> :-)
[04:55] <Trashcan> lol
[04:55] <Xeon3D> you open nero, go to recorder -> burn image
[04:55] <Xeon3D> then you select the .iso file.
[04:55] <warpforge> extracting the ISO destroys the boot image
[04:55] <Xeon3D> and click burn
[04:55] <viper``> :(
[04:55] <viper``> so i guess i have to donwload it again
[04:55] <warpforge> sorry, but you have to reburn the CD
[04:55] <Xeon3D> stooopid weather.. rained like there's no tomorrow for 10sec, now it stopped.
[04:55] <Enlite> what is the official date of the breezy release
[04:56] <warpforge> viper, why don't you wait until the final release?
[04:56] <nalioth> Enlite: see /topic
[04:56] <viper``> the iso file becomes 0kb also
[04:56] <Enlite> today or tomorrow
[04:56] <Enlite> oh
[04:56] <Rev-Marc> What kind of download speeds should I expect with Bittorrent on a cable connection?
[04:56] <viper``> when will it release?
[04:56] <Enlite> what time is breezy rel
[04:56] <Enlite> :)
[04:56] <warpforge> viper, the next few days
[04:56] <nalioth> 13 oct
[04:56] <Trashcan> rev: typically around 40-60
[04:56] <Trashcan> ie. slowwwwwwwwwwwwww
[04:56] <nalioth> if your anxious, get it now
[04:56] <melfyk> thursday
[04:56] <kevogod> Trashcan, Um, no
[04:56] <kevogod> Trashcan, I don't know what torrents you have been smoking
[04:56] <Enlite> eh dont want to install the preview
[04:56] <Trashcan> lol
[04:57] <Trashcan> debian
[04:57] <Trashcan> :(
[04:57] <Enlite> i want the real deal
[04:57] <warpforge> The speed of BT is dependant on too many factors to give a global prediction
[04:57] <Rev-Marc> OK it just seemed slow compared to FTP
[04:57] <warpforge> enlite: the latest CD image is RC
[04:57] <kevogod> Well, depending on what FTP you get
[04:57] <kevogod> heh
[04:58] <Blizz-> heya what type of drivers and such should i download for ubuntu? debian based things?
[04:58] <kevogod> Aldi is selling iPod Shuffles
[04:58] <kevogod> How famous
[04:58] <Lordphyn> does anyone use "corkscrew?"
[04:59] <warpforge> Blizz: you can't just "download drivers"
[04:59] <viper``> thaniks guys
[04:59] <viper``> ill be back
[04:59] <viper``> :)
[04:59] <kevogod> Lordphyn, Well, I use one the first time I open a wine bottle
[04:59] <eXcentra> I ordered some Ubuntu CD's like two weeks ago. Will they send me Breezy?
[04:59] <Burgundavia> eXcentra, yes
[04:59] <Blizz-> please explain then
[04:59] <warpforge> Blizz: you need to find support for your devices in the repositories
[04:59] <eXcentra> neat
[04:59] <eXcentra> thanks
[04:59] <bytefoo> i ordered the biggest package :/
[05:00] <bytefoo> of cds :O
[05:00] <warpforge> Blizz: at worst, you'll need to find the .deb's
[05:00] <Blizz-> ok thanks
[05:00] <warpforge> Blizz: what are you trying to set up?
[05:00] <Lordphyn> hehe yep, kevogod, but i meant the program :) I think httptunnel has similar functionality. I wanted to set up an https proxy on my home machine
[05:00] <mustard5> hmmmm..mondo and mindi not working for me out of the breezy repos
[05:00] <kevogod> Lordphyn, I know. :-)
[05:00] <erick> guys any fax services available for ubuntu
[05:01] <bytefoo> apt-cache search fax
[05:01] <bytefoo> :|
[05:01] <bytefoo> hylafax i think is popular
[05:01] <gurubie> Which kernel do I use with breezy? Of the "9" series, only 386 does X. I have a K7 but have not seen a K& kernel work. What to do?
[05:01] <warpforge> erick: "sudo apt-get update" first
[05:01] <figment> What should I do to try and fix my Firefox?
[05:01] <mustard5> erick, searching synaptic brings up quite a few
[05:02] <greg__> anyone here having problems with seveas repos? tried ubuntu-devel meta package. depends on yacc, not available from ubuntu repos
[05:03] <nalioth> greg__: use bison and symlink yacc to it
[05:03] <Rev-Marc> is there anyway to get around having to do the sudo time everytime I use apt-get?
[05:03] <gurubie> How do I reinstall GRUB over the MBR to get rid od MEPIS Grub screen.
[05:03] <frank23> what is the difference between blackdown java and sun's java?
[05:03] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: you can disregard security if you wish
[05:03] <nalioth> frank23: blackdown is older
[05:03] <frank23> gurubie: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:03] <erick> what should be i search fax?
[05:04] <mustard5> do you know how to use synaptic erick ?
[05:04] <mustard5> type 'fax' in the search and search by name and description
[05:04] <warpforge> how do you use gdb to get a trace?
[05:04] <frank23> gurubie: you might lose some grub entries though
[05:04] <erick> I guess yes
[05:04] <Rev-Marc> if you do "sudo su " do you have to use sudo for the rest of that session?
[05:04] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: better to sudo -i
[05:05] <mustard5> open synaptic and search via synaptic erick
[05:05] <greg__> nalioth, will symlinking to bison resolve dependencies?
[05:05] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: try -> sudo -s
[05:05] <gurubie> frank23, Done thanks
[05:05] <nalioth> greg__: it is strange that an ubuntu pkg depends on something not there
[05:05] <nalioth> greg__: what pkg were you installing again?
[05:05] <Rev-Marc> which is ti -i or -s?
[05:05] <warpforge> when you "sudo" into a shell, you just exit that shell to leave the su environment
[05:05] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: either one
[05:05] <Ky0tIk> what kind of changes are we expecting between now and the 13th??
[05:05] <greg__> nalioth, it was a seveas package. ubuntu-devel from another repository
[05:06] <Xenguy> nalioth: there is no difference?
[05:06] <erick> yeah i know how to used that but what should i use for my search key fax
[05:06] <nalioth> greg__: ah. that explains it. what was the name of the pkg?
[05:06] <Rev-Marc> thanks
[05:06] <nalioth> Xenguy: there is a difference, but i'm not aware of waht it is. i use sudo -i
[05:06] <gurubie> frank23, menu.lst is instact
[05:06] <frank23> nalioth: blackdown is still based on sun's java right? is it that they let 1.4 be distributed by ubuntu but not 1.5?
[05:06] <Xenguy> nalioth: nod
[05:06] <greg__> nalioth, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ was the site, ubuntu-devel is the package. depends on yacc
[05:06] <dougsko> hey guys
[05:06] <nalioth> frank23: yes but it's older
[05:07] <gurubie> What kernel are you guys using with brezzy updated?
[05:07] <mustard5> erick, search key is fax
[05:07] <nalioth> greg__: i'm not sure what ubuntu-devel is? why not install 'build-essential' ?
[05:07] <frank23> gurubie: now it will use the menu.lst from the ubuntu partition instead of the menu.lst from Mepis
[05:07] <erick> k mustard thanks
[05:07] <gurubie> frank23, Yes sir, that's exactly what I wanted.
[05:07] <Ky0tIk> gurubie: 2.6.12-9
[05:07] <Rev-Marc> how do I find my kernel version?
[05:08] <dooglus> UNAME -R
[05:08] <Ky0tIk> uname -r
[05:08] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: uname -r
[05:08] <gurubie> Ky0tIk, WHich processor?
[05:08] <greg__> nalioth, will do
[05:08] <dooglus> (only without the capslock)
[05:08] <Ky0tIk> gurubie 686
[05:08] <nalioth> greg__: and symlink 'yacc' to bison
[05:08] <erick> guys first time to install the server option of breezy guide me
[05:08] <kevogod> If I plug in an iPod Shuffle, will Ubuntu automount it?
[05:08] <mustard5> erick, ok ..we can only try
[05:08] <Rev-Marc> Thank you
[05:09] <Ky0tIk> erick: the server option is mostly just a base install isnt it?
[05:09] <dougsko> kevogod: plug it in and let us know :)
[05:09] <NoUse> kevogod it should, it automounts my 15gb ipod
[05:09] <nalioth> Ky0tIk: yes it is
[05:09] <gurubie> For some reason the 2.6.12-9-686 Kernel wouldn't start X but I'm on -386 now. I'd be hapy with 686 but still don't quite understand why K7 is offered if it doesn't work.
[05:09] <Enlite> are there breezy backports yet?
[05:09] <erick> kotic I dont think bcause its my first time install this
[05:10] <nalioth> Enlite: not yet. let breezy final, and dapper dev begin
[05:10] <kevogod> I don't have an iPod Shuffle, I was going to pick one up from Aldi for $60
[05:10] <warpforge> gurubie: it will show any kernel you install
[05:10] <Rev-Marc> maybe I should ask where I can find a list of commands and what they are used for on the net?
[05:10] <nalioth> kevogod: go ahead, they work in ubuntu
[05:10] <khermans> Breezy official on 10/13 ??
[05:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rev-Marc about cli
[05:10] <mustard5> erick, default will be easier
[05:10] <kevogod> $60 seemed like a good deal considering it is $100 on Apple's site and most other places
[05:10] <kevogod> *seems
[05:10] <dooglus> Rev-Marc: you can get a list of commands by pressing 'tab' in a terminal window, and you can find out what they do by typing "man <command>"
[05:10] <mustard5> erick, what are you using it for?
[05:11] <aalex> Question: I have Windows XP on a HD. I want to install a new HD which will be partitionned GRUB/Linux/FAT32/FAT32. Should I put this new disk first, as a master, and then the other one second, as slave ?
[05:11] <gurubie> 2.6.12-8-686 did work so which would you use, that or 2.6.12-9-386 ?
[05:11] <erick> i use the manually deletion
[05:11] <Enlite> is there a php5 pkg that will install easily on breezy
[05:11] <dougsko> kevogod: aldi has some sweet deals, thats where i got my puter from
[05:11] <kevogod> dougsko, I keep thinking they robbed an Apple semi or something
[05:11] <warpforge> how do i install symbols for debugging?
[05:11] <aalex> Enlite : good question : do you know of a php4 one ?
[05:11] <erick> mustard i want to use it as my backup server for my DNS, email, proxy , vpn and fileserver
[05:11] <dougsko> haha
[05:11] <Rev-Marc> nalioth Thank you that is pretty kewl
[05:11] <mustard5> erick, ah k :)
[05:11] <Enlite> apt-get install php4 works nicely
[05:11] <Trashcan> lol kevogod
[05:11] <dooglus> warpforge: debugging what?
[05:12] <Rev-Marc> dooglus thank you I will try that
[05:12] <warpforge> libcamel
[05:12] <dooglus> warpforge: is there a "libcamel-dbg" package?
[05:12] <erick> is this possible? my primay server is linux version 9 but im not satisfied for the updates
[05:12] <dooglus> warpforge: if not, you need to get the source & built it yourself
[05:12] <kevogod> dougsko, Aldi is a weird store.
[05:12] <warpforge> nope
[05:12] <mustard5> erick, it sounds possible
[05:13] <dooglus> warpforge: "apt-get source libcamel"
[05:13] <mustard5> I am no expert though
[05:13] <gurubie> So it's -8-686 vs. -9-386 on my K7. Which would you choose?
[05:13] <dooglus> warpforge: it puts the source in the current directory, and you don't need to be root
[05:13] <dougsko> kevogod: yeah it is, theres not one here in pittsburgh, but i wish there was
[05:13] <mustard5> erick, so you've used linux before?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> ubuntu should give out cds with guide (:
[05:13] <nalioth> TiMiDo: you have written one?
[05:14] <erick> yes purely redhat from version 9 to fedora 4
[05:14] <mustard5> TiMiDo, I have a guide in my help menu on breezy :)
[05:14] <erick> guys what is the min harddrive to used the LVM
[05:14] <TiMiDo> nalioth:  not really getting there
[05:14] <TiMiDo> mustard5:  give me the link =)
[05:14] <Trashcan> what's this speak of aldi i keep hearing?
[05:14] <mustard5> erick, ah ok...so your new to debian distributions?
[05:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TiMiDo about faq
[05:15] <TiMiDo> yeah i'm reading
[05:15] <mustard5> TiMiDo, its built in
[05:15] <mustard5> :)
[05:15] <TiMiDo> oh nice
[05:15] <nalioth> mustard5: it's also available online
[05:15] <erick> yes, before i try debian woody flavor and unfortunately im not succedful to fully run the system
[05:15] <TiMiDo> i'm gonna save the link -)
[05:15] <dougsko> Trashcan: its just a cool grocery stroe thats real cheap and they sometimes have awesome deals on electronics
[05:15] <TiMiDo> nalioth:  can u download it as a pdf?
[05:15] <mustard5> nalioth, ah ok..I didnt know
[05:15] <TylerDurden> im trying to install ut2k4 but it asks for the second cd and it wont let me eject the first one
[05:15] <TylerDurden> saying its busy
[05:15] <nalioth> TiMiDo: i believe ubotu just sent you the link
[05:16] <Rev-Marc> One last thing tonight, how do I turn off my touchpad in Ubuntu (no settings in bios to do it )
[05:16] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:16] <erick> mustard how many harddrive should i use to be able to use the LVM
[05:16] <TiMiDo> i'm there i'm asking if you can download it as pdf
[05:16] <kevogod> TylerDurden, I thought you said you resolved this problem.
[05:16] <mustard5> erick, I know nothing about LVM's
[05:16] <TylerDurden> apperantly not kevogod
[05:16] <nalioth> TiMiDo: only if you see a link
[05:16] <TylerDurden> it was working fine yestarday
[05:16] <erick> K try to fiure out
[05:16] <Enlite> what is the advantage of using LVM or not using it
[05:17] <kevogod> TylerDurden, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[05:17] <kevogod> Well, first sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[05:17] <mustard5> Enlite, I would hope it would make mounting groups of partitions easier...but I dont know
[05:17] <TylerDurden> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:17] <TylerDurden> mount: /dev/cdrom already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[05:17] <TylerDurden> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[05:17] <TylerDurden> says its busy with the -f
[05:17] <kevogod> Well, then do sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[05:17] <nalioth> TylerDurden: what have you seen about pasting in here?
[05:17] <dooglus> Enlite: does it let you dynamically resize your partitions?
[05:17] <TylerDurden> says its busy again kevogod
[05:17] <ksmurf> anyone have audacity working in breezy?  If so what did you do?
[05:18] <TylerDurden> grr come on nalioth give me a break please
[05:18] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Turn on Remote Desktop
[05:18] <TylerDurden> not everyone likes opening the browser to copy, paste a small 3 line code
[05:18] <crimsun> ksmurf: you have to disable the sound server startup first.
[05:18] <mustard5> TylerDurden, use #flood
[05:18] <dooglus> TylerDurden: freenode policy is no pastes bigger than 10 lines
[05:18] <erick> does ubuntu support iptables
[05:18] <kevogod> That was only 3 lines of paste
[05:18] <rob_p> erick:  yes
[05:18] <crimsun> *.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net will be down for about 10 minutes.
[05:18] <figment> I tried to install Firefox updates, the update manager gave an error, and now Firefox won't start at all.  What should I try to fix it?  Please help.
[05:18] <ksmurf> crimsun how so?
[05:18] <kevogod> I wouldn't quite call that excessive
[05:19] <TylerDurden> kevogod, u wnana control my comp?
[05:19] <linuxbomb> TylerDurden, just paste 9 lines at a time
[05:19] <crimsun> ksmurf: System> Preferences> Sound
[05:19] <nalioth> #ubuntu channel policy is to use a pastebin or #flood
[05:19] <erick> how about firewall builder can I used it
[05:19] <Hobbsee> figment: uninstall firefox mozilla-firefox then install mozilla-firefox
[05:19] <kevogod> TylerDurden, I love controlling people's computers.
[05:19] <nalioth> erick: if you wish
[05:19] <Trashcan> are there any commands in the CLI that are built into the kernel, and not actual applications?
[05:19] <TylerDurden> not but im being serious, u wanan try?
[05:19] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Sure
[05:19] <TylerDurden> ok how do i give u the code? i have a router and it doesnt give the real code
[05:19] <figment> Using the Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:20] <dougsko> erick: firestarter is a nice and easy firewall
[05:20] <mustard5> TylerDurden, I'd give it a go if I was set up to do it :)
[05:20] <linuxbomb> Trashcan what like | or >
[05:20] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/
[05:20] <Rev-Marc> One last thing tonight, how do I turn off my touchpad in Ubuntu (no settings in bios to do it )
[05:20] <kevogod> You might want to private message me
[05:20] <nalioth> kevogod: you can get his IP right here
[05:20] <ksmurf> crimsun Thanks again
[05:20] <erick> dougsko first time to hear that can guide me I try firestarter
[05:20] <figment> Or is there some other way to uninstall a program?
[05:20] <warpforge> Rev-Marc: you can disable your touchpad in xorg.conf
[05:20] <TiMiDo> figment: apt-get remove program
[05:20] <kevogod> nalioth, Ah, I'm using to hostmasks
[05:21] <nalioth> erick: a firewall is unnecessary in default ubuntu
[05:21] <nalioth> kevogod: his IP is in the clear
[05:21] <mustard5> nalioth, erick is doing server install
[05:21] <erick> but nalioth i want to secure my network i want to guard my DMZ
[05:21] <kevogod> Yea I see
[05:21] <Hobbsee> is bugzilla.ubuntu.com down?
[05:21] <Rev-Marc> how do I do that?
[05:21] <nalioth> erick: your DMZ is upstream of your box
[05:21] <figment> So; apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox
[05:22] <warpforge> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[05:22] <erick> yeah nalioth thanks mustard
[05:22] <dougsko> erick: it cant hurt and there almost no setup involved
[05:22] <jsgotangco> warpforge, ubuntu.com is down for an emegency maintenance
[05:22] <warpforge> ah
[05:22] <jsgotangco> warpforge, give it a few minutes
[05:22] <nalioth> dougsko: didnt we have the fud talk yesterday?
[05:22] <Xenguy> erick: shorewall is worth a look if you want a firewall
[05:22] <erick> yeah I know but I want to to put additional firewal on my network facing the outside world
[05:22] <linuxbomb> ubuntu.com has a virus
[05:23] <dougsko> lol ok, ok, fine i wont say anymore about it
[05:23] <Trashcan> linuxbomb: no i mean like, 'pwd' style commands, not piping
[05:23] <Hobbsee> warpforge: ah, so they're all going down currently are they?
[05:23] <Xenguy> erick: firewalls are fine, and useful, it you decide you want one
[05:23] <erick> but Im not expert in doing ip forwarding so I need a simple and easy to handle firewal
[05:23] <nalioth> erick: if you configure your network services properly, a firewall isnt necessary on linux
[05:23] <Xenguy> erick: I only know shorewall
[05:24] <nalioth> erick: is this box gonna be your network router?
[05:24] <figment> TiMiDo, what I need to type is; apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox?
[05:24] <linuxbomb> Trashcan, what the hell are you saying that "ls" or "cd" can exist in the kernel and not be installed or what
[05:24] <Trashcan> im asking if there are any that are
[05:24] <Xenguy> nalioth: I agree it is not always necessary, but it does increase the amount of control one has over packates that come and go
[05:24] <Trashcan> out of curiosity
[05:24] <TiMiDo> figment: yeah
[05:24] <nalioth> Trashcan: most of your 'builtin' commands are actually in the shell
[05:25] <nalioth> Xenguy: depends on if erick is installing for router use or use behind a dedicated router
[05:25] <erick> nalioth Im not using router my source of internet is just a dsl connection,
[05:25] <luckyaba> amarok just skips through without playing my mp3's... whats causing this?
[05:26] <erick> and limited ip address
[05:26] <nalioth> erick: be careful with your iptables
[05:26] <Crane> hiya all
[05:26] <Xenguy> erick: if your box is next to the Net, it is functionally a 'router', or better, a 'gateway'
[05:26] <figment> It says:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:26] <nalioth> figment: use sudo
[05:26] <erick> nalioth thanks
[05:26] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, so how's things in Alabama?
[05:26] <Crane> Great
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> so i guessed right?
[05:27] <arkanes> anyone having any trouble with the apt repositories?
[05:27] <Crane> the weather is finally cooled down
[05:27] <Crane> yep
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> good hope it is on the way into GA
[05:27] <nalioth> arkanes: yes, they appear to be flunctuating atm
[05:27] <erick> xenguy yes this will be next to NET and want to use proxy for internet sharing
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> over in Macon
[05:27] <Crane> I'll try to send it your way :)
[05:27] <figment> Okay.  It is uninstalling.
[05:27] <nalioth> erick: carry on. be carefule with your iptables
[05:27] <Madpilot> arkanes: Ubuntu.com seems to be having some problems, I can't even ping it
[05:28] <figment> Then I should be able to run the packages?
[05:28] <Xenguy> erick: So it is a gateway -- I would never run a gateway without a firewall (but nalioth may have other ideas, so ...)
[05:28] <dougsko> nalioth: take a look at this though if you want. debian does recomend one if you have a static http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm
[05:28] <arkanes> Madpilot: yes, same here. Wasn't sure if it was just me
[05:28] <dougsko> im not crazy
[05:28] <dougsko> ok, now im done
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, cool
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> so you using ubuntu ?
[05:28] <erick> since I have limited resources in term of machine, I will used it as my fileserver, vpn,proxy and backup for my DNS server
[05:28] <Crane> Me? all the time
[05:28] <LinuxBoyX6X> hello there could you help me out with firestarter
[05:28] <erick> can this be possible?
[05:28] <Xenguy> erick: anyway, if you go ahead, I recommend 'shorewall' -- that's about all I have to say :-)
[05:28] <LinuxBoyX6X> hello there could you help me out with firestarter
[05:29] <erick> k thanks xengut
[05:29] <dougsko> LinuxBoyX6X: yeah man
[05:29] <tritium> LinuxBoyX6X, don't repeat please
[05:29] <erick> hope you will guide me with this
[05:29] <nalioth> dougsko: yes static. most of us are on dynamic dsl/cable/dialup connections
[05:29] <figment> Now I should apt-get mozilla-firefox?
[05:29] <dougsko> ok, but how would i know that?
[05:29] <LinuxBoyX6X> sorry about that, ok heres the prob, ive started firestarter i have a 512 kbps connection
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, yea... cool
[05:29] <nalioth> LinuxBoyX6X: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[05:30] <erick> im alway online
[05:30] <Crane> are there any good linux podcast out there worth listening to?
[05:30] <LinuxBoyX6X> now im having only 200 kbps
[05:30] <erick> and ask for question
[05:30] <LinuxBoyX6X> how can i speed things up?
[05:30] <dougsko> LinuxBoyX6X: basically if you just apt-get it, and run it, you're pretty much good
[05:30] <Crane> just now learning about them
[05:30] <Madpilot> arkanes: the ubuntu servers are down for maintenance, apparently...
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, using Ubuntu breezy mostly... some suse here.... er, the stuff from TheLinuxLink techshow
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> pretty good
[05:30] <dougsko> LinuxBoyX6X: it starts with all ports being restricted, you only have to open one if you're running a web service like apache or something
[05:30] <figment> Now I should apt-get mozilla-firefox?
[05:31] <Crane> cool I just got a couple podcasts of theirs, just haven't listened yet
[05:31] <Hobbsee> figment: if you can, the reps are down
[05:31] <Hobbsee> and stick install between apt-get and mozilla-firefox
[05:32] <Rev-Marc> warpforge what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?
[05:32] <Crane> nomasteryoda|w, I run hoary right now, plan on upgrading soon. I'm in the process of building a new one to run breezy
[05:32] <erick> guys help me to decide which is the better secure and easy to install and manage vpn server, openvpn or freeswan
[05:32] <Crane> So does dist-upgrade to breezy work good?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, cool... i have been using breezy on all my systems for about 1 month
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> very well
[05:32] <Trashcan> *.ubuntu.com still down :(
[05:32] <Laforge38> anybody use a Dell Inspiron 1150 and had to set up wireless?
[05:32] <nalioth> Crane: works very well
[05:33] <mustard5> Trashcan, yeah..all dead
[05:33] <Madpilot> Trashcan: maintenance, apparently
[05:33] <Trashcan> a virus you say?
[05:33] <Trashcan> :\
[05:33] <Trashcan> ok
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> even with ndiswrapper... which Laforge38 might need to get that wireless setup
[05:33] <LinuxBoyX6X> ok thnx
[05:33] <dougsko> ive used openvpn as a client before. i dont think youll be disapointed with either
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell Laforge38 about ndiswrapper
[05:33] <Crane> I may try it tonight
[05:33] <Xenguy> ubotu: are you broken at the moment?
[05:33] <ubotu> Xenguy: Wish i knew
[05:33] <Xenguy> hrm
[05:34] <ditesh|cassini> since *.ubuntu.com seems to be down, can anybody tell me if postgresql-8 is shipped with breezy?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[05:34] <Laforge38> nomasterydoa|w i have tried this here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 around 10 times and not working
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, are you using WEP?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> or wpa?
[05:34] <Hobbsee> Trashcan: and kubuntu.org is down
[05:34] <Xenguy> !breezy
[05:34] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:34] <erick> nalioth does ubuntu support internal modem
[05:34] <Trashcan> im assuming kubuntu and ubuntu are hosted in the same place
[05:34] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w uh maybe what is WEP?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, check the version of your card... like mine is rev 2
[05:35] <Hobbsee> presumably, bugzilla.ubuntu.com is also down
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, no... you're not ... you would know
[05:35] <nalioth> erick: hardware modems and very very limited support for windmodems (means no winmodem support)
[05:35] <ksmurf> crimsun do I just have to shut the sound server off on startup of audacity? or do I have to keep it off the whole time?
[05:35] <transgress> anyone have the ubuntu breezy torrent?  i'd like to pull it real quick
[05:35] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w ok what comman is it to check version?
[05:36] <erick> you mean to say its better to use external modem than internal?
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, so the card firmware revision is what i'm referring too ... you can find out with "lspci"
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> looking for broadcom or bcm
[05:36] <tritium> erick, not all internal modems are winmodems
[05:36] <mustard5> what brand is your modem erick ?
[05:36] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w for network controller it is rev 03
[05:36] <Trashcan> is there a command to see the pcmcia devices?
[05:36] <TiMiDo> Trashcan: lspci
[05:36] <fredforfaen> whats a good data recovery tool for linux?
[05:37] <Trashcan> lol..
[05:37] <nalioth> fredforfaen: there is none
[05:37] <nalioth> fredforfaen: once you rm it, it's gone
[05:37] <TiMiDo> did i say something funny Trashcan ?
[05:37] <Xenguy> fredforfaen: what is the specific situation?
[05:37] <kevogod> nalioth, Um, that is not true.
[05:37] <Trashcan> nah, lol @ me
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, ok... do you have the dell winXP drivers?
[05:37] <Trashcan> thanks tim
[05:37] <nalioth> kevogod: educate us please
[05:37] <fredforfaen> nalioth i know for sure it is so with ext2
[05:37] <Rev-Marc> warpforge what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?
[05:37] <Laforge38> yes
[05:37] <kevogod> nalioth, Removing the pointer does not remove the file from the hard disc
[05:37] <foxm> i'm new to linux and just downloaded airsnort but dont know what to do next?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, extract the ".inf" and ".sys" files
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> for that version
[05:38] <pupil> I have vmware on linux host and guest windows 98.  I am having problems connecting network interface for the windows 98 guest.
[05:38] <intuit_> K$EE
[05:38] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w yes
[05:38] <Rev-Marc> anyone what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?
[05:38] <transgress> okay why are all the mirrors down at the same time that ubuntu.com is down?
[05:38] <intuit_> CK
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38,  if you have already installed ndiswrapper with one of the drivers
[05:38] <intuit_> K_$EE
[05:38] <nalioth> transgress: b/c if you "host" the mirror URLs they all resolve to the same machine
[05:38] <kevogod> nalioth, If you delete files and there has not been heavy hard disc access, you will most likely be able to recover a lot of the files
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, run this command ... "ndiswrapper -l" to see what is loaded
[05:39] <TiMiDo> is ubuntu.com down?
[05:39] <transgress> TiMiDo yeah
[05:39] <mustard5> TiMiDo, yes
[05:39] <kevogod> TiMiDo, Would appear so
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> TiMiDo, for maintenance
[05:39] <TiMiDo> oh why?
[05:39] <TiMiDo> oh ic
[05:39] <nalioth> kevogod: HOW?
[05:39] <crimsun> ksmurf: just when you start it
[05:39] <intuit_> yay maintanence is cool!
[05:39] <intuit_> kj'
[05:39] <intuit_> jk
[05:39] <nalioth> kevogod: tell us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <navyn> anybody here use Pan?
[05:39] <Ky0tIk> if you are using Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy please give it a review at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=607   if you are a 5.04 or previous user of Ubuntu please still read the review, and consider the update!  Even though Breezy will be finished in just 1 day, reviews help users out a lot!! take the time to read these reviews, and if you have experience good or bad, please post it, but be honest!
[05:39] <nalioth> navyn: yes we do
[05:39] <Jenocin> how do you format a usb external harddrive? qtparted and gparted don't seem to wanna do ext3
[05:39] <frank23> navyn: I've used it before, why?
[05:40] <nalioth> Ky0tIk: what are you doing?
[05:40] <figment> It has intstalled Firefox.  Should I need to restart before it will open?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, no
[05:40] <navyn> nalioth, if you are downloading files that are split, what is a good prog in linux to join them?
[05:40] <Ky0tIk> trying to get everyone to help out before breezy is finished
[05:40] <Xenguy> navyn: cat ?
[05:40] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5 driver present, hardwar present
[05:40] <Crane> can't upgrade just yet, servers are still down
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, you can open another terminal and type firefox
[05:40] <Ky0tIk> is that wrong or something?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, where's the "a" on the driver?
[05:41] <nalioth> navyn: depends on how they are split. the most common method is rar
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> with the revision 03 card you need the bcmwl5a driver
[05:41] <figment> Nothing.  It still won't start.
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> at least thats what i learned
[05:41] <Jenocin> anyone know?
[05:41] <intuit_> i've used breezy since it was available. i love testing
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, try to locate it
[05:41] <intuit_> ;-] 
[05:41] <Laforge38> nomastryoda|w no
[05:41] <ajmitch_> intuit_: since april? :)
[05:42] <navyn> an example would be ace.par2, ace.vol0+1.par2
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, terminal... type "which firefox"
[05:42] <figment> How do I do that?
[05:42] <Ky0tIk> intuit_: i hear ya!
[05:42] <intuit_> i think
[05:42] <luckyaba> to install w32codecs in ubuntu 63 bit.. all i do is download and extract into /usr/lib/win32 right?
[05:42] <erick> mustard conexant
[05:42] <luckyaba> 64 bit sorry
[05:42] <nalioth> luckyaba: /usr/local/lib/codecs
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, the bcmwl5a.inf is the one to use
[05:42] <Laforge38> oh
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, you should remove the one you installed
[05:42] <transgress> woo
[05:42] <figment> Okay, it says usr/bin/firefox
[05:42] <darius_> ubuntu.com down?
[05:42] <transgress> finally found the damn torrent
[05:42] <Burgundavia> darius_, yes
[05:42] <figment> Now what?
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> using "ndiswrapper -e /pathtodriver/bcmwl5.inf"
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> or some such
[05:43] <Jenocin> mkfs.ext3 doesn't seem to be functioning correctly in breezy
[05:43] <Jenocin> anyone else having issues?
[05:43] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w command to uninstall?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> Jenocin: with what?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, that is the command
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> cd to the folder where you put the drivers
[05:43] <dougsko> Jenocin: maybe try qtparted for formatting needs
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> extracted them i mean
[05:43] <Jenocin> dougsko I am and gparted
[05:44] <navyn> in my download folder there are no associations with the file i downloaded.  how could i extract them, without going over to windows?
[05:44] <Jenocin> dougsko both are giving me mkfs.ext3 issues ext2 seems to be fine, its an external usb drive I am adding to the system
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, try running it using full path
[05:44] <dougsko> Jenocin: hmmm....im not sure then
[05:44] <niklok> hello
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hi
[05:44] <transgress> gah
[05:44] <tercio> hi
[05:44] <transgress> the tracker runs off of ubuntu.com
[05:44] <dougsko> hi guys
[05:44] <transgress> damn it all
[05:44] <niklok> everytime I click on the "home folder" or anything like that... it doesn't open..
[05:44] <bur[n] er> but I want ubuntu now!!! 1.5 days.. aww
[05:44] <niklok> it says "opening...."
[05:44] <niklok> then closes
[05:44] <niklok> is it hidden somewhere? :P
[05:45] <Bad_Magic> why dont we throw up another tracker then?
[05:45] <intuit_> I need to contribute more. i got skills, but have been waiting for a distro that dose'nt make me want to pull my hair out. there is no point if the project is F**ED from the get go. ubuntu has a real bright future.
[05:45] <TylerDurden> r the respetories (sp) down?
[05:45] <bytefoo> yes
[05:45] <erick> niklok have you ls -al to view the files
[05:45] <Burgundavia> TylerDurden, all of ubuntu.com is down
[05:45] <Jenocin> could format it ext2 and fat32 just not ext3...
[05:45] <carpediem> niklok: sounds like nautilus is experiencing problems.  try killall nautilus, then open home
[05:45] <TylerDurden> how long does it usually take them to come up?
[05:45] <ajmitch_> intuit_: join the MOTU team for dapper ;)
[05:45] <nalioth> navyn: what is the name of ONE of the files?
[05:45] <bytefoo> should i be worried that all of my memory is being used up :|
[05:45] <tercio> tem algum aqui que fala portugues?
[05:45] <niklok> what's killall nauthilus? and what does it do?
[05:45] <navyn> ace.par2
[05:46] <Bad_Magic> it kills the gui in gnome
[05:46] <bytefoo> i mean, i've got a GIG
[05:46] <bur[n] er> intuit_: werd... bring that app you make... QuickBooks right? ;)
[05:46] <nomasteryoda|w> bytefoo, you seeing problems with your system running commands?
[05:46] <navyn> nalioth, ace.par2
[05:46] <Bad_Magic> and then restars them
[05:46] <figment> How do I run using the full path?
[05:46] <luckyaba> nalioth: i moved my extracted files from the w32 package to /usr/local/libs/codecs.. (i had to make the codecs directory) but amarok wont play mp3's
[05:46] <nalioth> !pt
[05:46] <bytefoo> yeah, sluggish performance
[05:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:46] <bur[n] er> bytefoo: it 'caches' it all
[05:46] <tercio> portugues? portuguese?
[05:46] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w so "sudo uninstall bcmwl5.inf"
[05:46] <carpediem> niklok: for instance "killall firefox" would kill all instances of firefox...."killall nautilus" will kill all instances of nautilus.
[05:46] <intuit_>  tottallyyy! i am willing to put serious time into this project.
[05:46] <Xenguy> figment: pwd
[05:46] <bur[n] er> bytefoo: I assum you're not "using" it all
[05:46] <intuit_> lol
[05:46] <nalioth> navyn: you need to install par2 from the repos
[05:46] <bytefoo> yeah there is a lot cached
[05:46] <dougsko> bytefoo: type 'top' in the terminal and you can see all your processes and how much cpu theyre using. then you can pkill the offending program
[05:46] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, no
[05:46] <Jenocin> bytefoo: maye sure dma is turned on and the swapdisk is running
[05:46] <bytefoo> i turned swappiness up to 100 but it never sticks
[05:47] <niklok> ah
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, cd to that folder
[05:47] <niklok> well, what is nauthilus?
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> where you extracted bcmwl5.inf
[05:47] <bur[n] er> bytefoo: linux is smart and "utilizes" all your ram :)
[05:47] <navyn> nalioth, i guess i'll have to wait until they are up huh?  never heard of par2
[05:47] <intuit_> ;] 
[05:47] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w cd to /etc/ndiswrapper?
[05:47] <_jason> nalioth:  why does pt get directed to brazil only?
[05:47] <bur[n] er> as long as most of it is cache, you're ok
[05:47] <bytefoo> oh yeah, my swap is definately being used
[05:47] <bytefoo> yeah most is cache
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, nope
[05:47] <carpediem> niklok: it is gnome's file manager.  That's what you see when you click on Home
[05:47] <bytefoo> still, i thought my hardware was good enough :/
[05:47] <nalioth> navyn: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll explain it
[05:47] <bur[n] er> your swap is being used too?!?
[05:47] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w which folder?
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> the actual folder where you placed the bcmwl5.inf file first...
[05:47] <bytefoo> yes
[05:48] <bytefoo> oh wait
[05:48] <carpediem> niklok: and it's spelled "nautilus", which is important when you type killall nautilus
[05:48] <Jenocin> burner same here
[05:48] <bytefoo> that was the network graph :/
[05:48] <bur[n] er> hehe
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, i have no clue where you extracted the file... but most times i put mine right in home folder
[05:48] <bytefoo> yah seems ok
[05:48] <lui> hello hello
[05:48] <bur[n] er> is it just me or is ubuntu.com down?
[05:48] <bytefoo> guess i should switch wm's to something mo elightweight :/
[05:48] <bytefoo> it's down
[05:48] <Hobbsee> ubuntu.com is down
[05:48] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w i followed this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 if that helps
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38,  so the command would be "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5"
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:48] <Hobbsee> although ubuntuforums are not :D
[05:49] <bur[n] er> eh
[05:49] <lui> it is ubutulinux.org
[05:49] <lui> it is ubuntulinux.org
[05:49] <intuit_> my harddrive is on its last leg. time to go shopping.
[05:49] <figment> Okay, I made Firefox open.  How do I change things so that is will run from the menus on the desktop?
[05:49] <bur[n] er> although... wiki.ubuntu.com is up still :)
[05:49] <bytefoo> it's all up
[05:49] <bytefoo> now :/
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> ThomasM, howdy
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> again
[05:50] <ThomasM> oi nomasteryoda|w
[05:50] <lui> and now I check ubuntu.com and it is online
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> lui, they must have installed new kernel
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:51] <_native_> im intuit
[05:51] <lui> nomasteryoda|w, yep, maybe it is :)
[05:51] <figment> Firefox will launch if I type; sudo firefox  But it won't launch from the menu.
[05:51] <_native_> haha
[05:52] <lui> can I disable sudo for other users of ubuntu?
[05:52] <enigmatic> that's incredibly odd
[05:52] <frank23> figment: that is strange...
[05:52] <_native_> welcome to the jungle ahh we got fun and games!
[05:52] <enigmatic> lui yes
[05:52] <bur[n] er> figment: mv ~/.firefox ~/.firefox-old
[05:52] <kYotiK> can someone check a screenshot out for me and tell me what something is? i have a url.. i was just looking at something and i have been wanting to use this for a while
[05:52] <bob832> hey, is there a program like WinSCP for Linux or is the SCP command the only thing available?
[05:52] <Madpilot> figment: you shouldn't really be launcing FF w/ sudo at all...
[05:52] <bur[n] er> er... figment:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[05:52] <ThomasM> lui: Yes.
[05:52] <nalioth> kYotiK: what it it?
[05:52] <enigmatic> kYotiK, can try
[05:52] <frank23> figment: you could try to reset your profile but bur[n] er beat me to it
[05:52] <Jenocin> how do you label partitions?
[05:52] <bur[n] er> figment: your user config is prolly just messed up
[05:52] <_native_> anyone seen procrastination_nation lately?
[05:52] <figment> Will I have to do this for all users?
[05:53] <lui> enigmatic, ok, now I have to find the way
[05:53] <bur[n] er> frank23: i beat ya, but I should have checked first ;)
[05:53] <kYotiK> well its something simple
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> _native_, thats kinda off-topic is it not?
[05:53] <enigmatic> man sudo
[05:53] <dougsko> lui: type 'visudo' in terminal and take users out of the file
[05:53] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w the only bcmwl5a i have is an .ini
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, so you do have the bcmwl5a.inf ...
[05:53] <_native_> yeah he's a local friend
[05:53] <kYotiK> it is those cool looking application bars, and the embedded apps into the desktop, like winamp, etc... i just want to know how to use those
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> no?
[05:53] <kYotiK> like the ones in these screen shots i have.. is it ok to post them in the chan?
[05:53] <lui> dougsko, oh is just that easy? jejeje, great :)
[05:54] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w not in the driver i downloaded from dell
[05:54] <enigmatic> kYotiK,  in gnome?
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, you need the .inf file.. that contains the descriptors needed by ndiswrapper to install the .sys file
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> er, mine has it
[05:54] <nalioth> kYotiK: use #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:54] <dougsko> lui: yeah but you might need to google vi commands, cause theyre kinda wierd
[05:55] <kYotiK> enigmatic, yes its in gnome
[05:55] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w  so all three files have to be bcmwl5a?
[05:55] <kYotiK> enigmatic, im sorry i meant xmms not winamp lol
[05:55] <frank23> lui: if you don't know vi, use nano
[05:55] <malv> anyone else get strange errors when compiling code now that it uses gcc 4.0?
[05:55] <_native_> i stick with 3.4
[05:55] <lui> dougsko, oh ok, I'll need to google into that
[05:55] <malv> . /usr/include/c++/4.0.2/bits/sstream.tcc:112: error: expected unqualified-id before '(' token
[05:56] <lui> thanks frank23
[05:56] <frank23> lui: nano is much easier
[05:56] <enigmatic> kYotiK, all you need to do is create a custom panel, add the apps you want to it and place it where you want it
[05:56] <dougsko> lui: you can use nano, but you cant edit the sudoers file directly, it can be corrupted. i forget how to use another editor on it
[05:56] <concept10> Firefox has problems playing embedded video on my system sometimes.  How do I disable the totem-mozilla plugin?  I want use mplayer only...
[05:56] <ThomasM> malv: I've had issues with defined constants, but patched around them.
[05:56] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, the inf and sys need to be
[05:56] <figment> I typed mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old, and firefox still won't run.
[05:56] <luckyaba> how can i get w32 coodecs working in ubuntu 64 bit?
[05:56] <malv> ThomasM: I just decided to link gcc and g++ back to 3.4
[05:56] <gurubie> Grub screen is black, no selection seen but can be selected (arrow down.) I tried commenting (out) the graphics menu line in "menu.lst" but still dark. How do I fix?
[05:57] <erick> guys hello
[05:57] <lui> dougsko, all right, I have to be careful
[05:57] <prc> Does anyone here have any experience using IPOD with breezy?
[05:57] <kYotiK> enigmatic, what about the apps that are embedded into the desktop, like i have seen xmms, network stats, weather, etc.. how do u do that too?
[05:57] <frank23> luckyaba: look in the amd64 forums, but my suggestion is to use the x86 version of ubuntu
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> why this channel not use a jabber conference room?
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> irc deads
[05:58] <malv> is it?
[05:58] <Jenocin> ok how do you stop automounting in gnome?
[05:59] <enigmatic> sec, let me look
[05:59] <ThomasM> BROKEN_LADDER: Um. We're not really here then, are we?
[05:59] <dougsko> Jenocin: edit /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Trashcan> really? irc is dead?
[06:00] <Xenguy>  /igr BROKEN_LADDER
[06:00] <Trashcan> ...alert the internets
[06:00] <prc> Does anyone here have any experience using IPOD with breezy?
[06:00] <Jenocin> its  usb.. keeps putting it back in.. problem is with the gpart and qparted it mounts the partition before it formats it
[06:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> prc you'd have a really easy time using a cowon iaudio player in linux since it works as a usb mass storage device.
[06:00] <frank23> prc: ask the question, if someone can help, they will
[06:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> irc is obsolete, let me put it that way.
[06:00] <erick> nalioth how can i star the gui session im using sever mode
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> irc is like miles.  jabber is like metric.
[06:01] <phiqtion> where can i update my sources.list ?
[06:01] <frank23> BROKEN_LADDER: what are you doing here then ^
[06:01] <ThomasM> BROKEN_LADDER: Then you'd do well to stay off it, yes?
[06:01] <nalioth> erick: you want a gui on the box?
[06:01] <malv> ThomasM: no need to be rude
[06:01] <erick> yes
[06:01] <erick> there is no startx command
[06:01] <ThomasM> malv: Mea culpa.
[06:01] <erick> and even init 5
[06:01] <dougsko> phiqtion: you can edit it inside synaptic
[06:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to convert the masses.  drop qwerty, use dvorak.  use esperanto.  use jabber. use vorbis.
[06:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> use metric
[06:02] <frank23> BROKEN_LADDER: use esperanto....  that one will take a while!
[06:02] <carpediem> This "Add Applications" feature in Breezy is brilliant.
[06:02] <nomasteryoda|w> er, we use what works BROKEN_LADDER ... that is a fact.... and IRC does work well . .. end of story.
[06:02] <dougsko> phiqtion: otherwise its here, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <erick> brb its lunch time here
[06:02] <ThomasM> nomasteryoda|w: Tested and refined by years of use, it is.
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> carpediem, kinda like "add-remove programs" in windows , huh?
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> ThomasM, true
[06:03] <phiqtion> dougsko, im trying to find xine or mplayer or any codecs. i just installed breezy RC.
[06:03] <figment> I can't get firefox to run without using sudo.
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/cas/103544257.html
[06:03] <carpediem> nomasteryoda|w: no, that doesn't show me programs that I don't have installed like this does.
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> frank23 ne vere.  mi nun uzas in, kaj ne havas problemojn.
[06:03] <figment> It opens right up if I type sudo first, but does absolutely nothing otherwise.
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> seru la 'reton por i, kaj spektu iujn la situojn kiuj temas pri i.
[06:04] <nomasteryoda|w> carpediem, i stand corrected... i try not to use windows..
[06:04] <din> gn
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> heh.
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> bye
[06:04] <carpediem> nomasteryoda|w: ugh...me too...work is work.
[06:04] <_jason> figment:  check if you have a firefox process open... ps aux | grep firefox
[06:04] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[06:04] <TylerDurden> does smoeone mind VNCing me and helping me out ejecting a cd?
[06:04] <bur[n] er> figment: you remove the config directory?
[06:04] <_native_> lets just always keep linux linux and not try to be so "user friendly" that we lose the security, robustness, and modularity
[06:05] <nomasteryoda|w> TylerDurden, did you try the icon on desktop?
[06:05] <TylerDurden> yes
[06:05] <TylerDurden> and eject with -f
[06:05] <phiqtion> how can i download mplayer, xine, multimedia codecs in sypnaptic?
[06:05] <dougsko> phiqtion: apt-get install vlc, vlc will play bassically everything right out of the box
[06:05] <carpediem> TylerDurden: did you try typing "eject /media/cdrom"
[06:05] <figment> I need to remove the config directory?  How do I do that?
[06:05] <TylerDurden> yeah
[06:05] <ThomasM> TylerDurden: Is it still mounted at all?
[06:05] <nomasteryoda|w> TylerDurden, sudo :
[06:05] <TylerDurden> can someone please VNC me and see whats wrong?
[06:05] <Trashcan> lol tyler
[06:05] <bur[n] er> TylerDurden: i'm more than happy to vnc :)
[06:06] <TylerDurden> ok burner
[06:06] <TylerDurden> ill pm u my ip
[06:06] <Trashcan> i'll do it no problem :)
[06:06] <TylerDurden> ok trashcan i trust u more
[06:06] <lui> what vnc?
[06:06] <wabble> carpediem: i agre, but i get a problem every time i try to choose open with on vlc. Its irritating
[06:06] <figment> I type ps aux | grep firefox and it says 7715  0.0  3.4  56404 17680 ?        Sl   Oct11   0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox   10880  0.0  0.1   3032   716 pts/0    S+   00:05   0:00 grep firefox  But I don't know what that means.
[06:06] <lui> what's vnc?
[06:06] <bur[n] er> eh, whatever
[06:06] <bur[n] er> good luck Trashcan
[06:06] <Trashcan> lolol
[06:06] <Trashcan> trust me more?
[06:06] <frank23> figment: kill 7715
[06:06] <bur[n] er> VNC == virtual network computing == remotely controlling a desktop
[06:06] <_native_> virtula network computing
[06:06] <Trashcan> i was just going to rm -rf /
[06:06] <nomasteryoda|w> lui, ask google
[06:07] <frank23> figment: and try to open again
[06:07] <Trashcan> tyler: ask someone who knows the answer :(
[06:07] <carpediem> wabble: not sure I follow, you mean when you click on VLC in "Add Programs"?
[06:07] <TylerDurden> uhh i thought u could help me
[06:07] <phiqtion> dougsko, that package isn't found. i need to update my souce list
[06:07] <figment> Yes that worked.
[06:07] <lui> oh ok
[06:07] <TylerDurden> bur[n] er, u wanna try?
[06:07] <figment> Thank you.  :)
[06:07] <bur[n] er> TylerDurden: sure... got vnc ready?
[06:07] <dougsko> phiqtion: it might be under universe
[06:07] <ThomasM> TylerDurden: I asked you a bit ago.  Is the drive still mounted at all?
[06:07] <Xenguy>  /igr TylerDurden
[06:07] <TylerDurden> uhh i think, i set password and allowed access
[06:07] <Trashcan> lol xeng
[06:08] <phiqtion> dougsko, there's nothing that says universe
[06:08] <TylerDurden> thomas i dont feel like explaining ti again
[06:08] <phiqtion> dougsko, it just says multimedia
[06:08] <_native_> you should tunnel vnc with ssh or use tightvnc
[06:08] <figment> I am going to check the other users, and hopefully I won't be back.
[06:08] <carpediem> "How I got owned" an autobiographical memior by TylerDurden
[06:08] <dougsko> phiqtion: hold on i gotta look at it
[06:09] <wabble> carpediem: err, they fixed it now i think :p
[06:09] <phiqtion> dougsko, ok
[06:09] <wabble> but now vlc wount play anything after an update here today so i did totem-xine
[06:09] <_native_> no shit! plain text vnc= owned.
[06:09] <dougsko> phiqtion: go to settings->repositories
[06:09] <Trashcan> lolololol @ carpediem
[06:09] <dougsko> phiqtion: and add the one that says universe
[06:10] <dougsko> phiqtion:then search for vlc
[06:10] <bur[n] er> anyone know if VINO can do reverse vnc??
[06:10] <_native_> im purely a ssh person no need for vnc.
[06:10] <_native_> yet.
[06:10] <carpediem> _native_: I tunnel vnc through ssh.
[06:10] <_native_> ;] 
[06:10] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: You mean connect to a listener?
[06:10] <phiqtion> dougsko, none says universe
[06:10] <_native_> great.
[06:11] <bur[n] er> ThomasM: yes
[06:11] <bur[n] er> exactly
[06:11] <Hobbsee> ubuntu seems to be back up, including repositories
[06:11] <bur[n] er> i was hoping to help out TylerDurden
[06:11] <_native_> ;] 
[06:11] <phiqtion> dougsko, everyone on that list are all already added
[06:11] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: Very doubtful.
[06:11] <bur[n] er> well crap
[06:11] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: He's inside a firewall?
[06:11] <bur[n] er> ThomasM: i dunno
[06:11] <bur[n] er> but to be sure, reverse vnc would be nice ;)
[06:12] <bur[n] er> then I don't have to worry about his side
[06:12] <bur[n] er> and only my side has to work
[06:12] <carpediem> _native_: how do you remote in without VNC?  X?
[06:12] <_native_> read firewalking a journey thru the enterprise by _native_
[06:12] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: Yep. Very, very handy.
[06:12] <warpforge> i recommend freenx
[06:12] <transgress> wouldn't vnc w/o x be like screen -x?
[06:12] <kevogod> carpediem, Use another protocol?
[06:13] <carpediem> transgress: well, I mean XDMCP
[06:13] <dougsko> phiqtion: there really should be a repository called universe, and you should be able to search for vlc, im really not sure why it wouldnt come up
[06:13] <Trashcan> hm
[06:13] <Trashcan> which vnc client do you guys use? :)
[06:13] <carpediem> transgress: you can get to an X session using XDMCP without VNC.
[06:13] <kevogod> Terminal Server Client
[06:14] <phiqtion> dougsko, okay found it. just i check mark everything or just universe and multiverse?
[06:14] <ThomasM> I'm fairly fond of TightVNC, especially with its added file transfer capabilities built into the UI.
[06:14] <_native_> i just ssh and have the server side sshd.conf setup to forward X
[06:14] <Trashcan> I have no idea how to do that native :)
[06:14] <carpediem> TightVNC on Linux, UltraVNC on Windows.
[06:14] <ThomasM> carpediem: What does Ultra do that Tight doesn't?
[06:14] <bur[n] er> keep it open ;)
[06:14] <bur[n] er> ultra has a nice full screen mode that works better than tight
[06:15] <dougsko> phiqtion: its probly not a great idea to get too much stuff from universe and multiverse unless you really need it because those programs are not supported
[06:15] <bur[n] er> although... neither of their fullscreen modes support hotkey passing
[06:15] <n0odl3> hi im starting to use cedega to enable me to install my tablet (pen and tablet) drive on linux
[06:15] <_native_> tightvnc is good there is a howto on getting stronger encryption with it. google
[06:15] <carpediem> ThomasM: the server installs a video driver, and when using a UltraVNC client to connect to an UltraVNC server, the performance is much, much better than normal VNC.
[06:15] <n0odl3> however i need to know how to get the "fglrx drivers for my video card
[06:15] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to obtain these?
[06:15] <ThomasM> carpediem: Free client, or does it require purchase?
[06:16] <transgress> n0odl3 check the wiki
[06:16] <Madpilot> !tell n0odl3 about ati
[06:16] <eyequeue> n0odl3:  sounds like ati: see the restricted repos
[06:16] <darius_> n0odl3: get xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:16] <dougsko> anything cleartext is never a good idea. ssh is really worth learning to use
[06:16] <kevogod> Cleartext makes everything easier
[06:16] <n0odl3> darius what is xorg-driver-fglrx?
[06:16] <carpediem> ThomasM: free...not sure of the license....free as in beer at least.
[06:16] <eyequeue> dooglus:  amen
[06:16] <kevogod> :P
[06:16] <tritium> n0odl3, read the wiki page on ATI
[06:16] <frank23> kevogod: for who?
[06:16] <transgress> there is more than just xorg-driver-fglrx ... you also need the restricted modules.  and you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <_native_> i dont remember is ssh AES enabled?
[06:17] <kevogod> frank23, people
[06:17] <cafuego_> bicyclerepairpersonman strikes!
[06:17] <darius_> n0odl3: the driver
[06:17] <dougsko> plus tunnels are cool. surf the web in privacy at work :)
[06:17] <ThomasM> carpediem: Cool. Leaving my self a note to look into it.
[06:17] <_native_> ive always used blowfish.
[06:17] <transgress> anyone here use gizmo?
[06:17] <eyequeue> _native_:  256 192 and 512 aes cbc i believe are in the list of preferred
[06:17] <darius_> The latest build of X for Breezy has destroyed ATI config for so many systems
[06:18] <jaren> join #ubuntu-devel
[06:18] <jaren> :)
[06:18] <transgress> darius_ yeah it does, but a good dpkg-reconfigure will fix it... it broke the configs for those who config'd by hand or used fglrxconfig ... like me.
[06:18] <n0odl3> once i get these drivers my cedega wont freak out everytime i try to install something right?
[06:18] <eyequeue> _native_:  i was tweaking this last night on a new box amof
[06:18] <darius_> n0odl3: run fglrxconfig after the depencies are install
[06:18] <tritium> darius_, according to hwo?
[06:18] <tritium> who?
[06:18] <n0odl3> or in theory
[06:18] <cafuego_> darius_: ati purchasers deserve whatever they get ;-)
[06:18] <darius_> transgress: dpkg-reconfigure didn't fix mine
[06:18] <_native_> wireless phone + laptop + tools = fun
[06:19] <darius_> transgress: but fglrxconfig did fix it - nc6230
[06:19] <transgress> darius_ peculiar... did you just do the auto config with dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:20] <sector10> why is the default download desktop, shouldnt it be home/user?
[06:20] <transgress> darius_ or did you set up your monitor and stuff by hand?
[06:20] <LuVUnTu> got a simple question ... instead of the run application on the application pulldown there is an add application. how can i add run application back?
[06:20] <cafuego_> sector10: Why?
[06:20] <darius_> transgress: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:20] <cafuego_> sector10: ANy new users would get lost if that was the case ;-)
[06:20] <_native_> Ubuntu should include the Mcity-Milk-Chrome.tar.bz2 theme it looks so good on my laptop.
[06:20] <transgress> darius_ but when you ran that, did you set anything by hand or just let it auto probe?
[06:20] <n0odl3> will this stop cedega from creating "zombie" windows and malfunctions during installing a windows programs on linux computers?
[06:20] <darius_> transgress: auto-probe
[06:21] <eyequeue> LuVUnTu:  does alt-f2 help?
[06:21] <n0odl3> (the fglrx drivers)
[06:21] <transgress> darius_ that's why.  it doesn't do so well with that and the fglrx driver.
[06:21] <darius_> transgress: it appeared to find everything .. but it didn't work.
[06:21] <sector10> cafuego: is that the reason? its also firefox default makes sense i guess
[06:21] <Jenocin> ok almost there anyone know how to change the label on a vfat partition?
[06:21] <darius_> transgress: I didn't have fglrx installed initially
[06:21] <LuVUnTu> that's a great shortcut eyequeue thank u ... that'll do
[06:21] <transgress> n0odl3 that sounds more like a cedega problem... but i know you sure as hell wouldn't get games running well with cedega with the ati driver... fglrx would be needed.
[06:21] <cafuego_> sector10: I guess the reasoning is that people who don't ike it are advanced enough to change it.
[06:21] <darius_> transgress: I fresh-installed 5.10 RC .. which worked.  As soon as I updated the xorg .. it stopped working
[06:21] <sector10> cafuego: problem is if new users install kubuntu-desktop they might have then errors
[06:22] <n0odl3> does anyone use cedega?
[06:22] <n0odl3> i need to know how to use it
[06:22] <transgress> n0odl3 cedega has excellent support for their paying customers.
[06:22] <n0odl3> i see
[06:22] <sector10> cafuego: same goes if you create shortcut or launcher on desktop
[06:22] <LuVUnTu> one last question ... is there a text-base web browser for ubuntu that is already installed by default?
[06:22] <guru54> does gnome support bluetooth very well?
[06:22] <dougsko> n0odl3: point2play is a gui front end to cedega
[06:22] <transgress> LuVUnTu links2, lynx, w3m
[06:23] <EIGHTBALL> fresh install of breezy.. community maintained repositories unresponsive
[06:23] <Burgundavia> guru54, not as well as KDE, as much as it pains me to admit it
[06:23] <sector10> anybody use sytem: administration: disks to add windows partition?
[06:23] <n0odl3> yes i have point2play
[06:23] <eyequeue> LuVUnTu:  i dont think so, but sudo apt-get install lynx links elinks should help :)
[06:23] <n0odl3> what does gui frontend mean?
[06:23] <_native_> graphical user interface
[06:23] <dougsko> n0odl3: its a nice graphical way to use use cedega
[06:23] <spstarr> do we have xvidcap in breezy?
[06:23] <kevogod> n0odl3, It is a program that interfaces with a command line utility
[06:24] <transgress> jesus christ... someone should probably be reading more about linux...
[06:24] <spstarr> doesn't seem to be :(
[06:24] <Yetr2> n0odl3, it means that the user interface for the application is a graphical type interface
[06:24] <guru54> yea i am currently using mandriva and was going to try unbuntu and was wondering, i dont really need bluetooth but it was nice to sync some stuff with it but thanks Burgundavia
[06:24] <tritium> transgress, huh?
[06:24] <LuVUnTu> transgress:  i got w3m but not the others ... thanks for ur help too eyequeue
[06:24] <n0odl3> can cedega allow windows programs to run on linux?
[06:24] <Xorlev> Mostly games
[06:24] <dougsko> n0odl3: some
[06:24] <n0odl3> (like a certain cg program i like to use)
[06:24] <Xorlev> But not all programs.
[06:24] <n0odl3> i see
[06:24] <LuVUnTu> much oblige transgress
[06:24] <n0odl3> how about drivers?
[06:24] <transgress> n0odl3 it's more of a games thing... look into wine for others.
[06:24] <woodwizzle> is there anyway to see some sorta progress bar when using commands like cp or mv in a terminal?
[06:25] <n0odl3> i see
[06:25] <Xorlev> No it doesn't run drivers.
[06:25] <sector10> cafuego: what about system:administration: disks? if new users add windows here its trouble
[06:25] <transgress> n0odl3 why are you using linux?
[06:25] <Yetr2> n0odl3, cedega is geared mostly for gaming with windows games on a linux platform
[06:25] <dougsko> n0odl3: wine works too for some and its free
[06:25] <_native_> or really an API alot of commandline tools are considered APIs such as the wirelesstools collection.
[06:25] <n0odl3> isee
[06:25] <n0odl3>  thank you
[06:25] <kevogod> lol
[06:25] <Xorlev> Moron.
[06:25] <Yetr2> woodwizzle, not really, most you can do is -v
[06:25] <dougsko> lol
[06:25] <aalex> Question: The Debian formatting tool tells me that there is no partition table on my disk. Fine. My partitions are : /boot, swap, /, /home, FAT32
[06:25] <Xorlev> woodwizzle: Theres this nice bash script called bar that works like that...google it
[06:25] <Yetr2> aalex, are you looking at the correct disk?
[06:26] <woodwizzle> Yetr2: Thanks, thats not bad. Shoulda thought of that
[06:26] <sector10> cafuego: it defaults to mount point /home
[06:26] <aalex> Yetr2: what ? of course
[06:27] <bimberi> woodwizzle: both commands have a -v (for verbose) option
[06:27] <aalex> Yetr2: this is a blank disk
[06:27] <aalex> I am trying to create those partitions
[06:27] <Yetr2> oh....
[06:27] <aalex> there are lots of errors
[06:27] <duncanm> hmm, i'm trying to install eclipse on breezy
[06:28] <Trashcan> can you format a CD with ext3, and mount it as an hdd?
[06:28] <duncanm> i have "apt-get install eclipse-platform eclipse-rcp libswt3.1-gtk-java mozilla-browser libnspr4
[06:28] <duncanm> "
[06:28] <Trashcan> i doubt it, but that would be neat
[06:28] <mike> i just used synaptic to install scribus on ubuntu.....how do i start the program?
[06:28] <duncanm> and i end up with,   mozilla-browser: Depends: libnspr4 (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu05.04 is to be installed
[06:28] <nalioth> duncanm: you are using non official repos
[06:28] <kevogod> Trashcan, Uh, no
[06:28] <dougsko> mike: ./scribus
[06:29] <Trashcan> yeah kevo :p
[06:29] <Joxer> When you mount your disk you do it as root (sudo) but now i cant access my disk :( Any solutions
[06:29] <Yetr2> aalex, unless you are doing something like raid or LVM, you really don't need /boot as a seperate partition. Also, an IDE HDD can only have 4 primary partitions, you'll need to create 3 primary and 2 extended partitions
[06:29] <Yetr2> with what you currently want
[06:30] <mike> dougsko: thank you
[06:30] <dougsko> mike: yep, it also might be under one of the menus
[06:30] <duncanm> nalioth: i don't think so, i followed the instructions on BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:30] <Joxer> anybody know ?
[06:31] <_native_> you cant create 2 extended partitions.
[06:31] <_native_> if you have 3 primary
[06:31] <woodwizzle> how do you do a search with apt-get
[06:31] <aalex> Yetr2: /, /home, swap, /music fat32 (extended), /stuff fat32 (extended) ?
[06:31] <duncanm> woodwizzle: apt-cache search <item>
[06:32] <n0odl3> does anyone here have a "Tablet"?
[06:32] <DavidLeeRoth> como estan ustedes hoy? How are you guys doing today?
[06:32] <dougsko> DavidLeeRoth: bien
[06:32] <Yetr2> aalex, are you planning on having windows read the partitions?
[06:32] <dougsko> y tu?
[06:32] <erick> guys
[06:33] <phiqtion> how can i download multimedia codecs in sypnatic?
[06:33] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a question.  I lost my root password but i got it back by chroot'ing into /bin/bash by logging in root on a ubuntu livecd.  I also forgot my Win2k password.  Does anyone have any tips for getting it back>
[06:33] <nalioth> duncanm: have you ever had non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[06:33] <aalex> Yetr2: yes, thats why some gonna be FAT32
[06:34] <tritium> Davey, chntpw
[06:34] <duncanm> nalioth: before, yeah
[06:34] <duncanm> nalioth: how do i purge those old entries, then
[06:34] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, chntpw
[06:34] <erick> can i use gui in my ubuntu server mode
[06:34] <DavidLeeRoth> Estoy de buen humor ahorita porque dormi por 3 horas.
[06:34] <duncanm> nalioth: is it that i have an odd version of libnspr4 installed?
[06:34] <nalioth> duncanm: you put a # in front of the line in your sources.list
[06:34] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, english here please.  Spanish in #ubuntu-es
[06:34] <nalioth> duncanm: most likely, yes
[06:35] <duncanm> nalioth: can i force it to install the one from the breezy repo?
[06:35] <nalioth> duncanm: if you wish
[06:35] <duncanm> nalioth: how do i do that?
[06:35] <n0odl3> does anyone here use a pen and mouse tablet?
[06:35] <Yetr2> aalex, I don't see what the problem is then
[06:35] <duncanm> apt-get -f install libnspr4?
[06:35] <n0odl3> or does anyone know what im talking about?
[06:36] <n0odl3> anyone?
[06:36] <tritium> duncanm, don't give a package name when you use -f
[06:36] <nalioth> duncanm: grab the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and "sudo dpkg --force-all filename.deb"  <<<<MAY KILL YOUR BOX
[06:36] <erick> nalioth how can i use gui on my ubuntu i install server mode
[06:36] <n0odl3> Anyone?
[06:36] <duncanm> hmm
[06:37] <tritium> erick, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (for gnome)
[06:37] <duncanm> or i can apt-get remove libnspr4 and reinstall
[06:37] <nalioth> erick: what desktop do you like?
[06:37] <_native_> erick use apt-get install gnome-core
[06:37] <nalioth> duncanm: that would be better
[06:37] <_native_> or yeah whatever desktop suits you
[06:37] <nalioth> erick: install the desktop you are familiar with
[06:37] <erick> what is the default desktop
[06:37] <tritium> gnome, erick
[06:37] <_native_> gnome is the best imo
[06:37] <Joxer> does anyone know how i can mount a ntfs disk, and get access to it, concidering the fact that you mount it as root ?
[06:38] <erick> tritium thanks
[06:38] <tritium> _native_, ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-core
[06:38] <erick> nalioth thanks
[06:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Joxer about ntfs
[06:38] <_native_> yeah if you want a lot of crap that wont ever be used or wont be used util the user knows what all those apps even are
[06:39] <cafuego_> _native_: I think that's up to erick to decide, not you.
[06:39] <_native_> uh yeah
[06:39] <aalex> Yetr : where do I set a partition to be extended, not primary ?
[06:40] <cafuego_> If you give the user a full set, theyc an always delete or ignore what they don't need. As opposed to asking for more software in here coz they can't find it.
[06:40] <aalex> (in the ubuntu installer)
[06:40] <erick> wherecafuego im just asking waht is the default desktop in ubuntu because this is my first time to use it
[06:41] <_native_> gnome is the default
[06:41] <eyequeue> erick:  ubuntu=gnome, kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce, the later two being variants
[06:41] <nalioth> erick: install ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <Joxer> thanks nalioth :)
[06:42] <duncanm> heh, i didn't know xubuntu is for xfce
[06:42] <Razor-X> eyequeue: we have a xubuntu now?
[06:42] <nalioth> Joxer: np
[06:42] <tritium> yes, Razor-X
[06:42] <erick> nalioth thanks
[06:42] <nalioth> duncanm: xubuntu is new with breezy
[06:42] <Razor-X> we should have rubuntu
[06:42] <Razor-X> ratpoison :P
[06:42] <aalex> rox rocks
[06:42] <duncanm> some of the apps in xfce look nice
[06:42] <gurubie> What's the fastest way to set a group of multiple copied directory and files to my user permissions WITH ubuntu?
[06:42] <Razor-X> I'm finding it's excellent for minimalistic-ness
[06:42] <nalioth> gurubie: chmod
[06:42] <Razor-X> nalioth: hey, I coined that term :P
[06:42] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  i'm not sure of its official status, but i know there's been work on it for a while now
[06:43] <erick> guys thanks for response first i will look for the files where can i edit and put dns
[06:43] <kevogod> eubuntu could be confused with edubuntu
[06:43] <Razor-X> eyequeue: lemme look that up
[06:43] <Razor-X> kevogod: yeah, i've heard that before, that's why eubuntu was canned
[06:43] <Razor-X> at least, that name anyways
[06:43] <aalex> Well, now , guys. In the installer, how do i set a partition to be secondary, not primary partition, on a IDE disk ?
[06:43] <gurubie> Is there a GUI way for a new user (with password) to change multiple permissions?
[06:43] <kevogod> enubuntu
[06:43] <nalioth> gurubie: chmod
[06:44] <kevogod> enlubuntu
[06:44] <Razor-X> kevogod: but then, I proposed the name before edubuntu was made
[06:44] <_native_> rightclick -> properties-> permissons
[06:44] <gurubie> nalioth, I've previously not done chmod, where do I start?
[06:44] <starscalling> ok!
[06:44] <starscalling> how about learning about firewalls?
[06:44] <nalioth> gurubie: open a terminal and type "man chmod" or do as _native_ suggested
[06:44] <kevogod> Razor-X, You are good at selecting names
[06:45] <Razor-X> kevogod: :P
[06:45] <nalioth> starscalling: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[06:45] <_native_> u can highlight multiple directories or files and change all the highlighted file permissions
[06:46] <_native_> highlight= rightclick hold rightclick -> drag over files
[06:46] <eyequeue> gurubie:  chmod g+x file*.pl is an example that makes files exectuable for the group ... the man page is good
[06:47] <erick> where is the file where can i put my dns ip address
[06:47] <misterdiff> is there anyway that i can get a sample configuration of the ubuntu kernel?
[06:47] <misterdiff> so i can compile my own
[06:47] <eyequeue> erick:  are you looking for /etc/network/interfaces? (man 5 interfaces)
[06:47] <tritium> misterdiff, in /boot
[06:48] <bimberi> erick: /etc/resolv.conf
[06:48] <erick> misterdiff try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065
[06:48] <tritium> misterdiff, if you do, I suggest you use ubuntu linux-source packages, and kernel-package
[06:48] <_native_> anyone used prelinking : preloading with gnome?
[06:49] <erick> eyequeue I already edit that file bimberi try to check that
[06:49] <eyequeue> erick:  what i said to set your ip, what bimberi said if you want to specify servers
[06:49] <davidleeroth> what was that app again? chntpasswd?
[06:49] <eyequeue> erick:  not positive your needs there
[06:50] <erick> eyqueue yeah I know I already edit that file
[06:50] <ngmlinux_> anybody know how to make a .zip file in ubuntu (yes specifically a .zip that can be uncompressed in windows not a gz or bz2)
[06:50] <_native_> man zip
[06:50] <erick> eyequeue how can I log as root
[06:50] <tritium> hey there ngmlinux_
[06:50] <eyequeue> ngmlinux_:  there's an app called ... zip :-)
[06:51] <davidleeroth> what was that app again? chntpasswd?
[06:51] <_native_> sudo passwd root -> set passwd -> enter -> fuss up your system good. ;] 
[06:51] <bimberi> ngmlinux_: Apps -> Accessories -> Archive Manager
[06:51] <eyequeue> erick:  well, we usually sudo before a single command, but "sudo -s" will get you a root shell, if you want that
[06:52] <ngmlinux_> zip -r folder_to_be_zipped?
[06:52] <Madpilot> erick: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:52] <erick> but what password will i use
[06:52] <thewayofzen> when x.org and compositing is completely worked out its gonna rule  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/thewayofzen/xfcetrans.jpg
[06:52] <lui> people, can I make aMule look with a better interface?
[06:52] <ngmlinux_> does that sound right?
[06:52] <Madpilot> erick: with sudo, you use your own user pw
[06:52] <eyequeue> erick:  you use your own password when running sudo anything
[06:52] <thewayofzen> with dropshadows and trans xfce panel i dont mind the bit of slowdown i get.. but with transset on any window my box is useless.
[06:52] <erick> madpilot eyeque thanks i got it works
[06:53] <Davey> So, Breezy comes out tomorrow, if I update now, am I essentially getting the breezy release?
[06:53] <Razor-X> thewayofzen: ratpoison is cleaner than XFce :P
[06:53] <eyequeue> Davey:  if you have breezy in sources.list yes
[06:53] <erick> guys thanks it works
[06:53] <thewayofzen> Razor-X, not a fan are u?
[06:53] <Madpilot> thewayofzen: that's shiny... I might have to try Xubuntu!
[06:53] <Davey> eyequeue, so its *the* official 5.10 release there now? Its just not been announced?
[06:54] <tritium> no, Davey
[06:54] <lui> can I make aMule look with a better interface?
[06:54] <Davey> so bunches of fixes etc will be added tomorrow? :)
[06:54] <eyequeue> Davey:  nah, there's still a few hours for devels to upload paniced changes ;-)
[06:54] <Razor-X> lui: aMule has some skins
[06:54] <dougsko> any of you guys notice you have to right-click the desktop icon and choose eject to get your cd drawer to eject a cd?
[06:54] <davidleeroth> is there a way to change nt passwords from a linux host?
[06:54] <ngmlinux_> I think I got it, thanks team
[06:54] <erick> guys i will edit my apt source.list, can I uncomment all of the option to include on my repo
[06:54] <tritium> davidleeroth, I told yo how
[06:54] <jnoon> when i click a link in firefox to a stream.cgi (which in windows pops up media player), it asks me what i want to do with it... anyone know what i can do so RealPlayer or something will pop up?  i tried chosing open with RealPlayer but nothing happened
[06:54] <_native_> yeah  dougsko that is an annoyance
[06:54] <dougsko> like the button on the drive does work when there's a disk in
[06:55] <tritium> davidleeroth, use chntpw, like I suggested
[06:55] <lui> Razor-X, but I google on it ut can't find nothing
[06:55] <dougsko> im not too sure how to fix that either
[06:55] <lui> b
[06:55] <eyequeue> Davey:  btw, it's been a few apps every few hours for a while now, it's not a once-a-day major thing
[06:55] <_native_> me too doug though i have not even looked into fixxing it
[06:56] <dougsko> yeah i admit i havent really tried too hard
[06:56] <tritium> nalioth_zZz, no sleep for you!
[06:56] <lui> anyone have aMule with a skin?
[06:56] <davidleeroth> i use emule
[06:56] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: PPPpffffffftttttt
[06:56] <tritium> :)
[06:56] <_native_> it has to do with the userland software basically commadiering control of you drive
[06:56] <Davey> eyequeue, I guess what I'm getting at is, is Breezy x86 + ATI stable? :)
[06:57] <_native_> sort of
[06:57] <Davey> eyequeue, and how much is it going to break?
[06:57] <tritium> Davey, you're asking him to predict that?
[06:57] <davidleeroth> i am on breezy now and it seems fine
[06:57] <eyequeue> Davey:  i dont do ati here so cant speak to that but as for the rest
[06:57] <Davey> tritium, damn straight I am :
[06:57] <Davey> :)
[06:58] <_native_> no breakage yet for me Davey on a ati 9200 laptop card all features work smooth
[06:58] <Davey> cool
[06:58] <lui> davidleeroth, I can't install lmule, it always gives me a lot of errors when compiling, and that is the one I want, I just hate the aMule interface
[06:58] <eyequeue> Davey:  breezy is just about as close to perfect as its going to get, and only has that one more error scheduled, the one that deletes your system :)
[06:58] <Davey> I wonder if Dual Monitor support is any better
[06:58] <Licker> what was that command to edit a restricted DOC?
[06:58] <Davey> eyequeue, which is a fresh install error, right?
[06:59] <eyequeue> Davey:  i was joking that some last-minute error could technically be a disaster
[06:59] <_native_> !seen procrastination_nation
[06:59] <ubotu> _native_: i haven't seen 'procrastination_nation'
[07:00] <davidleeroth> lui, have you considered limewire?
[07:00] <eyequeue> Davey:  i'm personally on breezy for a while now, but put hoary on a new install a couple of days ago.  dont want a newbies first taste to be a bug
[07:01] <_native_> bugs are good.............for reporting. ;] 
[07:01] <_native_> jk
[07:01] <_native_> i hate bad design + coding
[07:01] <_native_> = hell
[07:01] <concept10> Are the old kernels removed from the repositories after the new ones are released in breezy?
[07:01] <eyequeue> all these years later and she came to me *asking* for linux, can't blow it heh
[07:02] <lui> davidleeroth, yes but it haven't so many files like the ed2k network
[07:02] <concept10> anyone know that
[07:02] <eyequeue> the livecd was great for that btw, pop it in, ask if she could handle that on her own, then offer to make it faster and permanent, heh
[07:03] <_native_> girlZ are so helpless........... NOT!
[07:03] <cafuego_> auaoTouBu: Is it useful?
[07:03] <eyequeue> concept10:  i suppose you could browse the appropriate directory with firefox?  under /pool somewhere
[07:04] <Licker> what was that command to edit a restricted DOC?
[07:04] <cafuego_> Any ops awake?
[07:04] <tritium> what's up cafuego_ ?
[07:04] <phiqtion> how can i edit the grub?
[07:04] <cafuego_> tritium_ this silly random-nicked join spammer
[07:04] <_native_> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <cafuego_> tritium: *!oxigfog@85.204.194.23
[07:04] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  you probable want /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:04] <phiqtion> eyeque, thanks
[07:05] <tritium> good call, cafuego_
[07:05] <alfie>  anybody have a backport mirror website with servers that are currently working?
[07:05] <cafuego_> %? what's that do?
[07:05] <tritium> quiet
[07:05] <_native_> is it .list now ? ..... no
[07:05] <concept10> I just miss having old, well working kernels around ... I like to keep a couple of the older ones around
[07:05] <cafuego_> Ah, neet :-)
[07:06] <erick> phiqtion try this file /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf
[07:06] <eyequeue> concept10:  saved my butt more than once :)
[07:06] <tritium> :)
[07:06] <erick> im newbie in using debian but in redhat its on /etc/grub.conf and I guess thats the right file for debian
[07:07] <concept10> eyequeue, the old kernels are replaced in the repos when they are updated, they should keep a couple of versions in there
[07:07] <aurax> hi
[07:07] <aurax> can anyone tell me what the hack apt wants from me ?
[07:07] <aurax> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:07] <aurax> swat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[07:08] <tritium> aurax, looks like backports hell
[07:08] <cafuego_> aurax: run 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' first
[07:08] <aurax> did it
[07:08] <cafuego_> !info samba hoary
[07:08] <eyequeue> concept10:  yeah, i'm stuck running 2.6.12-6-686 here because 2.6.12-9-686 won't work here
[07:08] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2300 kB, Installed size: 5956 kB
[07:08] <cafuego_> !info samba breezy
[07:08] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB
[07:08] <_native_> do a apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get update
[07:08] <phrizer> I'm trying to run 'make menuconfig' to configure some kernel source, and i get this  "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses" though i do have ncurses installed.
[07:08] <phiqtion> i downloaded the breezy RC, tomorrow the official version will come out. do i have to reinstall it?
[07:08] <erick> am I right to edit grub just go to this file /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf
[07:08] <cafuego_> aurax: Disable backports
[07:09] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no
[07:09] <aurax> hmm
[07:09] <aurax> k
[07:09] <cafuego_> erick: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  did you install that rc version?
[07:09] <tritium> phrizer, you need libncurses5-dev
[07:09] <_native_> u need thte dev ncurses
[07:09] <phrizer> Okei
[07:09] <_native_> damn!
[07:09] <aurax> allready disabled
[07:09] <_native_> lol
[07:09] <cafuego_> good call, tritium
[07:09] <tritium> :)
[07:09] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade, tomorrow
[07:09] <_native_> ;->
[07:09] <cafuego_> aurax: It is nevertheless trying to fetch from a backports repository
[07:09] <erick> cafuego ah k im sorry but grub.conf is in the /usr
[07:10] <_native_> wha?
[07:10] <_native_>  /usr
[07:10] <_native_> ?
[07:10] <aurax> hmm?
[07:10] <tritium> erick, cafuego_ would not lead you astray
[07:10] <_native_> sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:10] <cafuego_> erick, ... much
[07:11] <aurax> new kernel upgrade?
[07:11] <aurax> kewl
[07:11] <tga> tmpfs                 237M   13M  225M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[07:11] <erick> k I know cafuego is right, i try this file Im sorry again
[07:11] <tga> what exactly does this do?
[07:11] <cafuego_> erick: The boot menu definitions are in /boot/grub/menu.lst - there isn't anything else that requires user editing.
[07:11] <cafuego_> tga: It indicates you should install an optimised kernel ;-)
[07:11] <lui> ok people how can I get  wxWidgets 2.6.2?
[07:12] <erick> cafuego not need to be edit? how can i secure my grub?
[07:12] <_native_> cvs madwifi + latest kernel + cvs wirelesstools = fun
[07:12] <cafuego_> erick: secure?
[07:12] <flankk> 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' produces -267 C.. is this acutally Kelvin? (if you ignore the negativity..)
[07:12] <sextrip_m> bayot
[07:12] <tga> cafuego_, I never saw that before.. what does it do?
[07:12] <_native_> secure it in what way password protected?
[07:12] <erick> in redhat you should include password so that changing root password by running in single mode
[07:13] <frank23> flankk: no, that would be -6 degC if you do it your way
[07:13] <erick> is not permitted
[07:13] <asdx> breezy will feature initng?
[07:13] <LivingTarget> erick: there is a password section in my /boot/grub/menu.lst it's commented out so have a look at it
[07:13] <cafuego_> tga: it's a ramdisk. Not sure why it needs to be one.
[07:13] <aurax> so how can i get swat installed?
[07:13] <erick> ah k thanks LivingTarget
[07:13] <phiqtion> eyequeue, i did installed the rc version, why?
[07:14] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  tomorrow, running "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade" will grab the changes that happened in this past week
[07:14] <phiqtion> eyequeue, how much MB aprox. ?
[07:14] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no need to grab an entire cd image and all that again
[07:15] <phiqtion> eyequeue, how safe is that upgrade? isn't it better to grab the new cd image?
[07:15] <asdx> breezy will feature initng?
[07:15] <flankk> frank23, well.. what are you saying.  Do I have temp sensors or no?
[07:15] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  well, it would depend on how much you installed of course, but i'd say just a few minutes d/l here
[07:16] <cafuego_> erick: You can add a password option. use 'grub-md5-crypt' to generate a password. CHECK DOCS before you enabled this.
[07:16] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no ,that upgrade is very safe, it's something many of us do daily (and is how security upgrades are handled too)
[07:16] <flankk> frank23,  'critical (S5):  -264 C' .. so something's up.
[07:16] <erick> in ssh can i used different port instead of the default 22
[07:16] <erick> cafuego I will try that
[07:16] <cafuego_> flankk: The cpu is freezing, quickly run a kernel compile!
[07:16] <dougsko> flankk: gkrellm will show you your cpu temp without sensors (im not really sure how it does it, but it seems pretty accurate)
[07:16] <eyequeue> erick:  -p 2222 if you wanted that
[07:17] <Hackmo> hey, i'm using breezy and i'm having a problem with my webcam.  When I first updated to breezy my webcam worked fine (toucam pro2) but I updated my system a couple of days ago and now my webcam wont work
[07:17] <Hackmo> anyone got any idea what is wrong?
[07:17] <erick> its almost the same with redhat the main difference is the location of files
[07:17] <cafuego_> erick: /etc/ssh/sshd_config (add Port <portnumber> lines for each port you want it to listen on.
[07:17] <phiqtion> eyequeue, well, one thing though was, in the second install phase of ubuntu RC, everything it was downloading displayed this message: "error, wrong medium installed CD/Dvd" something similar to that, i cant remeber the exact message.
[07:17] <melvztechie> erick: hello, i just thought your used to Redhat or Fedora?
[07:17] <frank23> dougsko: it probably uses lm-sensors
[07:17] <dougsko> erick: you can change the port it runs on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:17] <dougsko> frank23: what are those
[07:17] <erick> melv redhat 9 upto fedora 4
[07:18] <frank23> dougsko: just the program that reads the sensor outputs
[07:18] <dougsko> cool
[07:18] <erick> eyequeue how will I connect ssh ipaddress?
[07:18] <aurax> k welp i will install webmin-samba instead
[07:18] <aurax> bah
[07:18] <cafuego_> ssh ip -p port -l user
[07:18] <erick> k cafuego thanks
[07:18] <misterdiff> where can i get an ubuntu 64bit version with smp supported so i can use the live distro and actually boot?
[07:18] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  hmm, you're free to start over if you'd feel more comfortable of course, but i'd tend to trust what has been running well for a week myself :)  but i may also have more experience i guess
[07:19] <Hackmo> my webcam is also used a mic, the mic part seems to be working fine
[07:19] <phiqtion> eyeque, which version on u are?
[07:19] <phiqtion> are u on*
[07:19] <eyequeue> erick:  'ssh -p 2222 127.0.0.1'
[07:19] <frank23> misterdiff: the non smp version should work as well
[07:20] <jgrieves_> what up
[07:20] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  i have breezy on this laptop, and hory on a desktop
[07:20] <jgrieves_> alrighty I need an experienced GDM user :)
[07:20] <Joxer> Is there a mp3 player for linux that looks kinda like winamp ?
[07:20] <Babbage> Hello, I have some kind of problem with HAL/udev/hotplug somewhere I think - when I plug in my iRiver, it doesn't automatically get mounted any more.  What should I check?
[07:20] <eyequeue> hoary
[07:20] <phiqtion> eyeque, RC candidate?
[07:20] <jgrieves_> how can I restart X after initiating GDM
[07:20] <misterdiff> frank23, it doesn't
[07:20] <flankk> cafuego_,  I knew I should have consulted a professional before dipping my mobo in a pool of liquid nitrogen.
[07:20] <jgrieves_> per user
[07:20] <tritium> jgrieves_, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:21] <frank23> Joxer: beep-media-player looks like winamp
[07:21] <misterdiff> frank23, everytime i try it says it can't find a suitable kernel
[07:21] <jgrieves_> tritium i need ot specifcy specifc x extensions per user
[07:21] <Joxer> thanks frank23
[07:21] <jgrieves_> so if user X logs in , X starts with ____ extensiosn
[07:21] <jgrieves_> and if user Y logs in, X starts with ____ extensions
[07:21] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  um, the cd is called that, but i've been updating mine daily from the net, no cd at all (install was warty)
[07:21] <jgrieves_> gdm loads up Xorg
[07:21] <dougsko> flankk: wow, that sounds like fun
[07:22] <frank23> misterdiff: and you have a Athlon64 or Pentium 4-EMT64?
[07:22] <jgrieves_> and I edited the PreSession file to kick X and restart it based on a .xsession in the user directory
[07:22] <jgrieves_> but gdm doesn't like that
[07:22] <jgrieves_> one bi
[07:22] <phiqtion> eyeque, also, after breezy installed itself after all those errors. in the taskbar first thing that popped out was that there was 187 packages to update. i mean? i downloaded the latest version, why is it asking me to update every single package already installed? another weird thing was that i compared the version already installed and the version to be upgraded to. and they're exactly the same. any suggestions?
[07:22] <DjKritical> Does anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for edemu?
[07:22] <alfie> anybody have an hoary-backport server that works
[07:23] <flankk> dougsko, all
[07:23] <flankk> dougsko, all GKrellM does is monitor that file I'm having trouble with.
[07:23] <dougsko> flankk: oh ok, yeah i dont really know much about that
[07:23] <aurax> anyone here using samba?
[07:24] <erick> yup
[07:24] <erick> yes aurax
[07:24] <aurax> u got a tiny prob
[07:24] <aurax> i *
[07:24] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  some source packages do have a huge number of binary packages (gstreamer and xorg come to mind) and i know both have upgraded recently
[07:24] <frank23> alfie: backports is now with the official servers
[07:24] <aurax> i cannot see my box @ my network palces
[07:24] <aurax> places*
[07:24] <nalioth_zZz> alfie: all ubuntu servers are down atm
[07:24] <alfie> thanks frank used the official server but it is down
[07:25] <flankk> dougsko, all I know is that I'm 3 degrees centigrade from critical..  Dunno what muliplier to use to get the correct temp though.. or how to find out.
[07:25] <Babbage> when I plug in my USB disk, it doesn't automatically get mounted any more.  What should I check?
[07:25] <frank23> nalioth_zZz: I use the ca server and it works right now
[07:25] <alfie> nalioth:  will try tomorrow then
[07:25] <alfie> what is the ca server
[07:25] <nalioth_zZz> alfie: it doeant matter. it is all the same machine
[07:25] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  the number seems high, but it doesn't really surprise me i guess, considering that
[07:25] <frank23> alfie: canada   ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:25] <jgrieves_> tritium, you sitll with me?
[07:25] <alfie> i tried all from the backport project and official
[07:25] <erick> aurax what is your p[roblem in samba
[07:26] <alfie> frank23: will try
[07:26] <tritium> jgrieves_, no idea how to implement that
[07:26] <jgrieves_> haha yeah
[07:26] <phiqtion> eyeque, you recommend me to update all that?
[07:26] <Hackmo> anyone having any cam issues on breezy?
[07:26] <jgrieves_> I don't really understand why GDM is tripping up, except perhaps its relying on the PID
[07:26] <dougsko> flankk: yeah it's wierd it would display the temp at -200+ 'C', b/c it's obviously not celcius
[07:26] <flankk> Babbage, check your /etc/fstab.. that you have kernel support.. etc.
[07:26] <jgrieves_> of the Xorg its using
[07:27] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  yes, or wait a couple of days until the official release, if you have bandwidth issues there
[07:27] <erick> nalioth can i use openwebmail here in ubuntu? all of there packages are in rpm and source can this be possible
[07:27] <frank23> dougsko: -200 is not a realistic temp on any scale
[07:27] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  that way there will just be one d/l
[07:27] <nalioth_zZz> erick: if you see the pkgs, go for it
[07:27] <ce_imut> HEI
[07:27] <dougsko> frank23: lol i know
[07:27] <jgrieves_> anyone else reall experineced in GDM?
[07:27] <flankk> frank23, what does yours read so I can get a sense of what it should be.
[07:27] <jgrieves_> i'm sure its been done before, most likeyl with multiple monitors
[07:27] <karra> tyf67f8
[07:27] <alfie> frank23: still gettingW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:27] <ce_imut> HAI CEW
[07:27] <melvztechie> erick: r u from PH? ur using info.com.XX
[07:28] <dougsko> frank23: what command did you use to get it?
[07:28] <phiqtion> eyequeue, good suggestion. thanks
[07:28] <erick> can i use the rpm packages
[07:28] <karra> tsdrtrdughf
[07:28] <dougsko> erick: alien can convert rpm to deb
[07:28] <erick> melv yes im from phil y?
[07:28] <melvztechie> erick: you can get alien
[07:28] <Babbage> flankk> OK, well, I have no /dev/sdb, so there is no point worrying about /etc/fstab yet.   What is supposed to generate /dev/sdb?   udev?   hotplug?  Something else?
[07:28] <flankk> dougsko, perhaps it's subtracting an even 400 centigrade from the actual temperature?  Critical is -264C.. is that about right?
[07:28] <ce_imut> hai leh kenalan g'
[07:28] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no prob :)  a say wait a few days since the mirrors will be slow right after release too :)
[07:28] <DjKritical> Does anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for edemu?
[07:28] <erick> melvs dougs thanks
[07:28] <DjKritical> cdemu*
[07:28] <tga> ce_imut, hai s nu
[07:29] <erick> i will try that
[07:29] <melvztechie> i see, just doing the same thing ur doing now;)
[07:29] <cafuego_> flankk: lm-sensors issue?
[07:29] <dougsko> flankk: can your processor EVER be too cold?
[07:29] <Babbage> dougsko, yes
[07:29] <Greensky> does anyone know what the daemon that puts the update icon in the gnome panel is?
[07:29] <dougsko> huh
[07:29] <jgrieves_> update-notifier?
[07:29] <frank23> flankk: dougsko I cannot read the temp the way you did
[07:29] <phiqtion> eyequeue, true. so u think its better off for me to don't ever again download and burn a ubuntu cd unless SERIOUS problemas occur, and just keep updating?
[07:29] <flankk> Babbage, if you have kernel support.. it will call udev to make the device node, yes.. so check your kern.
[07:29] <jgrieves_> Greensky: ps -A | grep update-notifier
[07:29] <erick> any pinoy
[07:29] <Greensky> jgrieves : yeah that looks like that's it
[07:30] <jgrieves_> if you wanna kill it
[07:30] <Greensky> jgrieves_, yeah, just getting that setup in xfce
[07:30] <melvztechie> ahooooy!!!
[07:30] <Greensky> no, going to run it
[07:30] <Greensky> thanks :)
[07:30] <jgrieves_> gotcha
[07:30] <jgrieves_> haha
[07:30] <Greensky> :P
[07:30] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  right :)  but if you want the cd to go install on all your friends machines, get a fresh cd of course :)
[07:30] <Babbage> flankk, it's stock linux-image-2.6.10-5-386, what should I check?
[07:30] <cafuego_> Greensky: that should autorun if you have new package lists and there are updates.
[07:30] <flankk> cafuego_, unsupported BIOS more likely?
[07:30] <Greensky> although I just heard about xubuntu so maybe they'll integrate that into xfce now as an option
[07:30] <erick> melvz from where r u
[07:30] <ce_imut> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[07:30] <karra> ada apa
[07:30] <jgrieves_> ok, come on you GDM super users
[07:30] <Greensky> cafuego_, probably not in xfce though
[07:30] <melvztechie> BGO
[07:30] <melvztechie> u?
[07:31] <erick> what is BGO
[07:31] <Greensky> thanks jgrieves_ :)
[07:31] <DjKritical> Does anyone know of a gnome equivilent to daemon tools?
[07:31] <misterdiff> frank23, sorry. i have an amd64 x2 processor with integrated ati xpress 200. i can't get the damn thing to boot with the live or the install cd
[07:31] <erick> im from philippines
[07:31] <ce_imut> he kar
[07:31] <sayonara> hi folks
[07:31] <jgrieves_> Greensky: np
[07:31] <phiqtion> eyequeue, of course. are u busy? i can keep learning from u for 2 hours more if thats ok. lol
[07:31] <cafuego_> flankk: If it's ACPI yes. if lm-sensors, you'd need a proper config file (different chips needs different formulas to report the actual value)
[07:31] <misterdiff> frank23, tried the x86 version too but no luck
[07:31] <jgrieves_> DjKritical: BUM
[07:31] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  once breezy is out, you wont get updates any more, but i'd still run it every week or so to catch any security fixes
[07:31] <Babbage> flankk, how do I check if the kernel is invoking udev?
[07:31] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  heh
[07:31] <kikinova1> Hi. I use Breezy Badger, and I wonder if I may safely install KMail (my preferred GUI mail app) in a GNOME environment without wrecking my system or creating a general mess
[07:32] <melvztechie> erick: lungsod bato
[07:32] <jgrieves_> DjKritical: search snaptic BUM
[07:32] <flankk> cafuego_, well the documentation is terrible.. where would I find out more about this?
[07:32] <HedgeMage> kikinova1: yep, I have a couple of kde apps
[07:32] <jgrieves_> will install to System > Administration
[07:32] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: how do they show up?
[07:32] <cafuego_> flankk: lm-sensors uses /etc/sensors.conf - that should have annotated chip entries and formulas.
[07:32] <phiqtion> eyequeue: can i change the wallpaper color to a vertical gradient blue? (login wallpaper)
[07:32] <frank23> misterdiff: I don't think the x2 is supported by regular smp kernel
[07:32] <erick> melvz lungsod bato saan yan
[07:32] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: I mean? What's the result in graphical terms?
[07:32] <eyequeue> kikinova1:  i've never done it, but it sounds safe ... you'll just end up with more libraries on the system
[07:32] <frank23> misterdiff: I really don't know anything about this though
[07:33] <melvztechie> erick: hehehe hirap bah hulaan, d2 sa norte , baguio
[07:33] <cafuego_> frank23: The install cd wouldn't use an smp kernel anyway.
[07:33] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: what do the menu bar fonts look like?
[07:33] <flankk> cafuego_, I'm using ACPI, and the /proc/acpi interface..
[07:33] <melvztechie> erick: how about u? loc plz?
[07:33] <Aven> hi
[07:33] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  "probably" :)  i'm not a gui guy really though, so don't know how
[07:33] <nalioth_zZz> melvztechie: erick english in here please
[07:33] <Aven> what's a good FTP server?
[07:33] <cafuego_> flankk: Ok. ANy new bioses available for the mobo?
[07:33] <melvztechie> sorry guys
[07:33] <Aven> for ubuntu.. (of course)
[07:33] <kikinova1> Aven: vsftpd
[07:33] <cafuego_> Aven: ftp.planetmirror.com
[07:33] <Aven> thanks!
[07:33] <HedgeMage> kikinova1: normally, they're just a smidge slower starting up when on a slow machine because the kde junk isn't already running
[07:33] <cafuego_> oh :-)
[07:34] <flankk> cafuego_, not an option..
[07:34] <flankk> cafuego_, the one installed is fully upgraded though.
[07:34] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: but they look ok?
[07:34] <phiqtion> eyequeue: xine or mplayer. they're not in the repository correct?
[07:34] <cafuego_> flankk: Then I think you next best bet is to just ignore that readout.
[07:34] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: I prefer asking first cause I'm on dialup, and downloading qt and everything will take loooooooooong :o(
[07:34] <jgrieves_> anyone know how to make GDM load specific X sessions for users, rather than using the one setup (Xorg) at startup
[07:34] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell phiqtion about repositories
[07:35] <mahangu> i got mplayer installed
[07:35] <mahangu> but no sound
[07:35] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  i think universe for both
[07:35] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: anyway... thanks for your help
[07:35] <HedgeMage> kingemer: they look fine :)  no problem.
[07:35] <HedgeMage> :)
[07:36] <erick> melvz from baguio? what is the wheather?
[07:36] <n1xt3r_> woah
[07:36] <melvztechie> erick: are you still there? hows ur *box* now?
[07:36] <flankk> cafuego_, is it likely it's simply subtracting 400 centigrade?  so -267C becomes 67C ?
[07:36] <erick> hows the weather?
[07:36] <Aven> for vsftpd
[07:36] <ce_imut> kar dandi koen matita
[07:36] <Aven> I don't need any compiling or anything, right? :P
[07:36] <erick> melvz yes , 67% of installing gnome desktop
[07:37] <cafuego_> flankk: Probably no more likely than subtracting 273 or adding 42.
[07:37] <kYotiK> Everyone who is using Ubuntu or plans to use Ubuntu please read the Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy" User Reviews at:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=607     its only 1 more day until Breezy is final, so these reviews help us all in the long run!!
[07:37] <jgrieves_> thanks for that.....
[07:37] <erick> melvz im from bulacan
[07:37] <phiqtion> eyequeue: i manually went in sypnantic and added universe and multiverse. but xine and mplayer still not there. with ur file, should i copy paste into my sources list?
[07:37] <mahangu> real audio opens in mplayer
[07:38] <Razor-X> wow, first Knife of Dreams, then Breezy
[07:38] <Razor-X> what an excellent month :)
[07:38] <flankk> cafuego_, the gnome hardware sensor monitor has a sensor value offset for a reason I think..
[07:38] <erick> melvz are u man or girl? and how old r u?
[07:38] <frank23> phiqtion: did you update in synaptic?
[07:38] <erick> and ofcourse what is ur work
[07:38] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  in synaptic, now hit "reload"
[07:38] <cafuego_> flankk: Yes, but unless you have a way to actually calibrate it, you're still just guessing :-)
[07:38] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  in apt-get it would be "update"
[07:38] <flankk> cafuego_, 400 _is_ more likely because all the temps are close, and 67 off 200..
[07:39] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ you dont' have any ideas for my issue do you?  if not im hitting the sack :)
[07:39] <jgrieves_> call it a night
[07:39] <tritium> erick, can you please take the chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:39] <misterdiff> frank23, yeah it is. i've got it working on a gentoo build now
[07:39] <nalioth_zZz> erick: melvztechie: what language do you speak?
[07:39] <mahangu>  but ther si sno sound
[07:39] <tritium> that's Tagalog
[07:39] <nalioth_zZz> !ph
[07:39] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[07:39] <Hendric> woah... 29updates today..
[07:39] <erick> tritium Im sorry
[07:39] <misterdiff> frank23, just would rather have ubuntu instead but i can't get that to boot
[07:39] <tritium> erick, no problem
[07:39] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: I wasn't paying attention, what is your issue?
[07:39] <jgrieves_> anyone know how to make GDM load specific X sessions for users, rather than using the one setup (Xorg) at startup
[07:39] <erick> nalioth tagalog
[07:40] <jgrieves_> and if user Y logs in, X starts with ____ extensions
[07:40] <nalioth_zZz> erick: tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[07:40] <phiqtion> eyequeue: i did reload. you're file? does it have mplayer or xine listed when i search for them?
[07:40] <erick> but we can communicate using english
[07:40] <EPSONLX300> how can i share my printer to network?
[07:40] <jgrieves_> i tried klling Xorg in Presession
[07:40] <Hendric> erick, pre ayaw tagalog dire.. hehehe english only lolx
[07:40] <jgrieves_> and starting up another process
[07:40] <cafuego_> erick: Ja, als je hier bent kun je beter alleen engels gebruiken (of nederlands, als het cht moet!)
[07:40] <jgrieves_> but that killed it
[07:40] <EPSONLX300> walay bisdak dire?
[07:41] <Hendric> bisdak present
[07:41] <tritium> !tagalog
[07:41] <ubotu> well, tagalog is spoken in #ubuntu-ph
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> lol
[07:41] <jgrieves_> It looks like gdm, which makes sense, is connected to the Xorg is sets up to begin with
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> Hendric,  kabalo ka share sa network printer?
[07:41] <mahangu> nalioth_zZz, i got mplayer installed, but no sound
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> im using lx 300
[07:41] <jgrieves_> But I really need to load up sepereate Xsession files for specifc users, for extensions
[07:41] <mahangu> plays .rmfiles fine though
[07:41] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: You cna give each user a ~/.xsession file with whatever they need to run in that.
[07:41] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, sshh.. ayaw dire kasaban ta.. english only here
[07:41] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell mahangu about sound
[07:41] <jgrieves_> yep been there
[07:41] <erick> hendric yeah Im sorry
[07:41] <nalioth_zZz> good night
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> pvt nalang Hendric
[07:41] <erick> cafuego Im sorry
[07:41] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-586_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb
[07:41] <jgrieves_> problem is GDM dosn't use the .xsession file
[07:42] <tritium> !tell EPSONLX300 about tagalog
[07:42] <jgrieves_> X is already laoaded by the time it hiits
[07:42] <jgrieves_> and its already told it to load gnome-session
[07:42] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: Yes it does, KDM doesn't :-)
[07:42] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: The trick is to (... let me check)
[07:42] <jgrieves_> BAH
[07:42] <jgrieves_> GDM is accessibile for disabled users, KDM was not, last time I checked
[07:42] <erick> cafuego what language you used
[07:42] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  apt-cache show mplayer-586
[07:42] <mojo_> hey ppl
[07:43] <mojo_> i just got new Tango theme
[07:43] <mojo_> it rocks on my breezy
[07:43] <cafuego_> erick: nederlands
[07:43] <jgrieves_> screenshot mojo?
[07:43] <mojo_> hold on sec mate
[07:43] <Hendric> mojo, vista inspired theme looked nice too
[07:43] <phiqtion> eyequeue: i386 not available?
[07:43] <mojo_> aw...
[07:43] <mojo_> no host
[07:43] <cafuego_> jgrieves_:  d'oh, now X has crashed on the test box
[07:43] <mojo_> hold o
[07:43] <mojo_> I find a free host
[07:43] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  apt-cache show mplayer-386, then :)
[07:43] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ lol i crashed mine quite a few times :)
[07:44] <tritium> note: *.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net going down again for emergency network maintenance. ETD is 10 mins.
[07:44] <jgrieves_> Hendric: vista + transparent windows?
[07:44] <Trashcan> mmmm
[07:44] <cafuego_> sudo killall -9 Xorg
[07:44] <Trashcan> blurred composites
[07:44] <cafuego_> *whee*
[07:44] <jgrieves_> LOL
[07:44] <mahangu> nalioth_zZz, sound works fine in xmms
[07:44] <Hendric> jgrieves_, yeah... plus the cool office icons for gnome
[07:44] <Trashcan> lol cafuego
[07:44] <otep> hello, how do i share a network printer?
[07:44] <jgrieves_> Hendric link?
[07:45] <Trashcan> theres a vista theme?
[07:45] <phiqtion> eyequeue: the dvd codecs listed in the ubuntu guide are not found. any known name by u?
[07:45] <eyequeue> tritium:  getting things all set before tomorrow's deluge? ;)
[07:45] <jgrieves_> and when I see the text in red, how are you guys doing that is that a PM or anything?
[07:45] <Hendric> vista theme -> gnome.org
[07:45] <jgrieves_> i haven't used irc very well
[07:45] <tritium> eyequeue, not me, but the devs are.
[07:45] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no, sorry
[07:45] <Trashcan> jgrieves_ : the red happens if someone says your name
[07:45] <Hendric> need to eat... gudluck guys.
[07:45] <erick> Hendric thanks
[07:45] <jgrieves_> Trashcan comes in red?
[07:45] <erick> cafuego k,
[07:46] <Trashcan> yup jgrieves_
[07:46] <ckrueger> ok, i've got a serious problem
[07:46] <jgrieves_> thanks
[07:46] <ckrueger> has anyone ever set up software RAID on  ubuntu 5.10?
[07:46] <foxm> i'm new to linux. how would i go about installing airsnort?
[07:46] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Yep.
[07:46] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ glad i could help you kill ur X sessions
[07:46] <eyequeue> tritium:  i've noticed the mirrors slowing for days, tomorrow will be like a ddos probably :/  good in one sense though
[07:46] <ckrueger> cafuego_, ok, then riddle me this...  I set up a RAID1 array
[07:46] <jgrieves_> Vista no theme found
[07:46] <ckrueger> well, 3 really...  one for boot, one for root, and one for swap
[07:46] <cafuego_> foxm: Start synaptic (from the System -> Admin menu), find 'airsnort' and install it.
[07:46] <jgrieves_> what am I looking for to see this Vista theme
[07:46] <tritium> eyequeue, exciting times
[07:47] <ckrueger> i set up the partitions accordingly
[07:47] <Hendric> jgrieves_, getting the link wait
[07:47] <cafuego_> ckrueger: I never claimed the one I set up actually worked ;-)
[07:47] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ thanks for looking into this for me
[07:48] <foxm> cafuego: i searched for airsnort but there were no resurlts
[07:48] <Hendric> on a P-pro 200MHz with 64MB RAM... xfce is flying...
[07:48] <xynamax> i need help...i'm trying to install xlib6g and I cant find where to download the package
[07:48] <jgrieves_> Hendric awesome
[07:48] <ckrueger> is this because it's building it?
[07:49] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/universe/a/airsnort/airsnort_0.2.6-1_i386.deb
[07:49] <Hendric> but firefox is killing it.. so fired up opera..
[07:49] <DjKritical> when you do a modprobe, does that load the module into the kernal everytime you boot up?
[07:49] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell foxm about repositories
[07:49] <cafuego_> foxm: Then you need to go into Settings -> Repositories (in synaptic) and make sure 'universe' and 'multiverse' are enabled in the sections.
[07:49] <tritium> DjKritical, no.  For that, add the module name to /etc/modules
[07:49] <erick> nalioth sharing of printer possible with samba? if yes how?
[07:49] <eyequeue> foxm:  universe
[07:49] <Proteque> Hendric: yeah. opera is nicer to the system
[07:49] <cafuego_> !info airsnort
[07:49] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 180 kB
[07:49] <DjKritical> tritium, thats
[07:49] <Proteque> Hendric: and a better browser imho
[07:49] <DjKritical> tritium, thanks
[07:49] <tritium> np
[07:50] <xynamax> i need help...i'm trying to install xlib6g and I cant find where to download the package
[07:50] <ckrueger> does anyone know why setup would hang at the end after installing on a software RAID1 array saying "Running mdcfg..."?
[07:50] <cafuego_> foxm: Also, the wireless driver for your card needs to support monitor mode (not all do)
[07:50] <ckrueger> does it take a while to run in 2 200 gig drives?
[07:50] <Hendric> Proteque, but a headache with plugins.. just for flash.. took me 20 forums to get working
[07:50] <erick> Hendric I agree with Proteque and there is new features you can use the speak cmd
[07:50] <Proteque> Hendric: perhabs. I dont use flash
[07:50] <cafuego_> ckrueger: switch to alt-F2; start a shell, see what's running.
[07:50] <Proteque> Hendric: in my experience flash is only used for commersials and lame pages.
[07:51] <jgrieves_> lol
[07:51] <Madpilot> Hendric: I used the Flash file off Macromedia's site, and it installed easily
[07:51] <Madpilot> Hendric: with Opera on Ubuntu, that is
[07:51] <jgrieves_> dont forget the spank the monkey games!
[07:51] <Hendric> now i got opera with flash, mplayer (video streams), java.... but took me d whole day to get them working
[07:51] <erick> what is the meaning of lol?
[07:51] <ckrueger> cafuego_, the moment i did it, and was about to hit enter to activate the console, it switched to INIT6
[07:51] <Proteque> jgrieves_: how could I forget :D
[07:51] <ckrueger> i guess that means it was finishing?
[07:51] <Trashcan>  opera takes less resources?
[07:51] <cafuego_> ckrueger: <heh>
[07:51] <Hendric> Madpilot, doesn't for me.. segmentation fault after installing flash from macromedia
[07:51] <jas_> Can someone help me?
[07:51] <cafuego_> ckrueger: .. so its rebooting now.
[07:51] <hondje> I like Epiphany, great browser and real light
[07:52] <seethru> jas_: whats up?
[07:52] <ckrueger> cafuego_, yeah, that's what i t looks like...  now i get "error loading operating system"
[07:52] <Proteque> Trashcan: seems like it. never testet if it actually do though.
[07:52] <Madpilot> Hendric: Breezy or Hoary?
[07:52] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ not trying to bug you, but are you still working iwth me, or should I hit it tonight?
[07:52] <Trashcan> hmm
[07:52] <erick> Trashcan thats true unlike with firefox
[07:52] <cafuego_> ckrueger: woot, no bootlader.
[07:52] <Trashcan> cooool
[07:52] <Trashcan> this machine is sloooooowwwwwwwww
[07:52] <jas_> I am trying to install the Nvidia Linux graphics driver
[07:52] <Hendric> breezy Madpilot.
[07:52] <Trashcan> 900mhz p3
[07:52] <ckrueger> cafuego_, but at this point i can set up a bootloader on the software RAID, right?
[07:52] <tritium> !tell jas_ about nvidia
[07:52] <jgrieves_> Trashcan you ever read The Stnd?
[07:52] <Razor-X> Madpilot: there's absolutely nothing wrong with Opera anymore, you know
[07:52] <Trashcan> nosir
[07:52] <Razor-X> i'm surprised it hasn't become more of a staple, as of late
[07:52] <Proteque> Trashcan: 900mhz P3 is not that slow actually if you have enough mem.
[07:52] <cafuego_> jas_: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'
[07:53] <jgrieves_> Trashcan one of the characters is Trashcan man :)
[07:53] <Trashcan> half a gig... i just like to complain
[07:53] <Trashcan> lol jgrieves_
[07:53] <Proteque> Trashcan: hehe okay. well if it ease your pain.
[07:53] <Trashcan> Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:53] <Proteque> Trashcan: download package for ubuntu at opera.com
[07:53] <Trashcan> roger
[07:53] <Trashcan> thanks
[07:53] <Madpilot> Hendric: I'm still running Hoary, and Opera+Flash works great - I'm going to be very, very cautious about updating to Breezy, because I can't function without Opera
[07:53] <cafuego_> ckrueger: It should not have rebooted until installation was done (including a boot loader)
[07:54] <Hendric> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1088 <-- get this then this --> http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/534 <-- cool vista inspired.
[07:54] <Madpilot> !tell Trashcan about opera
[07:54] <ckrueger> cafuego_, i think it had, but i hear of problems booting off of a software RAID arra
[07:54] <ckrueger> y
[07:54] <Hendric> well opera is working great on my breezy...
[07:54] <foxm> thanks everyone
[07:54] <Trashcan> hey thanks madpilot
[07:54] <jas_> It says I need to turn off Xsession
[07:54] <Madpilot> Trashcan: np
[07:54] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Nah, with lilo that works just fine (I do it on multiple machines).
[07:54] <jgrieves_> cool
[07:55] <erick> hendric does sharing of printer possible with samba
[07:55] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ not trying to bug you, but are you still working iwth me, or should I hit it tonight?
[07:55] <Hendric> erick, of course
[07:55] <erick> how?
[07:55] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: Nah, my brain is fied and the test box isn't cooperating.
[07:55] <erick> im going to edit the smb.conf?
[07:55] <jgrieves_> ok, can you point me anywhere for tomrorow searching?
[07:55] <ckrueger> cafuego_, are the devices labeled "md0", "md1", etc?
[07:55] <Hendric> erick, yeah..
[07:55] <cafuego_> ckrueger: yep
[07:55] <EPSONLX300> erick do we have common probs  printer sharing?
[07:55] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ GDM's configuration doesn't really mention it
[07:56] <Hendric> smb.conf does it all to share printers or folders with specific security..
[07:56] <erick> yes
[07:56] <jgrieves_> but you sound pretty confident that it can be done ?
[07:56] <ckrueger> cafuego_, is there any kind of rescue environment on the ubuntu disc from which i can fix lilo?
[07:56] <EPSONLX300> i need to know howto share my LX 300+ shared to network pls help me
[07:56] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: basically, if you have a .xsession, it SHOULD read that. Previously it did that just fine on my machine.
[07:56] <Hendric> i better start eating.. before my parasites get mad.
[07:56] <jgrieves_> really? crud, just an .xsession in their directory
[07:56] <EPSONLX300> Hendric, where can i find smb.conf folder?
[07:56] <tga> EPSONLX300, use cups to get it working, then export it with samba
[07:56] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:56] <EPSONLX300> tga tell me how
[07:56] <cafuego_> ckrueger: You can boot the install cd, start a shell and do whatever needs doing.
[07:56] <jgrieves_> hmm well i'll give it a go tomororw :)
[07:57] <tga> EPSONLX300, can you print from linux?
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> next step Hendric to that
[07:57] <ckrueger> cafuego_, is there any way to have it set up lilo as default, or do i need to do a manual config?
[07:57] <cafuego_> ckrueger: You'll need to run mdadm etc by hand, but if you know the partitons you;'ll be fine.
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> tga yes of his own pc not in network
[07:57] <dougsko> ok guys, im off to bed, good luck with everything
[07:57] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ thanks, did you have to stop X, or just have your own .xsession file in ur home directory?
[07:57] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, first of all.. make sure that you can print locally...
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> yes it is printing locally
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> done
[07:58] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: With an .xsession in my homedir, it sues that. if none, it sues the system default (gnome).
[07:58] <gurubie> Does Breezy updated have a graphical GRUB menu or is it just text?
[07:58] <EPSONLX300> whats the next step to client Hendric
[07:58] <jgrieves_> cafuego_, noted, thanks
[07:58] <Hobbsee> gurubie: just text
[07:58] <jgrieves_> nigiht all
[07:58] <Hobbsee> gurubie: but you can always uncomment the colours section so it's made of pretty colours
[07:58] <jgrieves_> thanks for help
[07:58] <Trashcan> did anyone pull up that vista theme?
[07:59] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36189.html <-- helpful
[07:59] <spackest> so, dumb question, if I have a box that is 5.04 and another that is 5.10, if I copy the 5.10 sources.list to the 5.04 box and do apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade, will the 5.04 box become 5.10?
[07:59] <aftertaf> spackest:  yes
[07:59] <spackest> that kicks
[07:59] <gurubie> How do I install a graphical GRUB menu in Breezy?
[07:59] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell spackest about breezy
[07:59] <spackest> really?  wow
[07:59] <gogeta> lol
[07:59] <aftertaf> apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[08:00] <gogeta> hi all
[08:00] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/smb.conf_sharepublicfoldersreadwritesecurityuser <-- helpful too...
[08:00] <spackest> really?  apt-get dist-upgrade will magically move me to 5.10?
[08:00] <gogeta> yep
[08:00] <spackest> I don't even need the sources dance?
[08:00] <aftertaf> gurubie:  you can install a grub splash package and then you say which png file you want as a backdrop
[08:00] <Hendric> spackest, amazing eh?
[08:00] <gogeta> apt-get dist-upgrade prety mutch updates any linux distro that uses apt
[08:00] <spackest> what a country!
[08:00] <Hobbsee> spackest: you do need the sources dance
[08:00] <aftertaf> spackest:  you can just change the word hoary in each line of sources to breezy ;)
[08:00] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell spackest about upgrade2breezy
[08:01] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee :)
[08:01] <ckrueger> cfuego_, ok, i booted into expert mode and couldn't find any binaries that i could use...  no fdisk/cfdisk, no grub, no lilo
[08:01] <Hobbsee> hi aftertaf...this must be the time to go !start a desktop war again!
[08:01] <gogeta> breezy is 6.10 right
[08:01] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:01] <gurubie> Why would my grub menu be black/blank when no graphic file is specified?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> gogeta: no, 5.10
[08:01] <gogeta> oh
[08:01] <ckrueger> cfuego_, i'm thinking i'm just going to set it up on one drive and configure RAID1 in software later, would this work?
[08:01] <Trashcan> lol
[08:01] <ksmurf> has anyone complained about the screensaver locking and not accepting their password to unlock?
[08:01] <Hendric> 6.10 might be the pink panther.. breezy is 5.10
[08:02] <gurubie> aftertaf, That sounds cool.
[08:02] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[08:02] <ubotu> blackbox is much better than gnome!
[08:02] <aftertaf> like that?
[08:02] <aftertaf> lol pink panther
[08:02] <Hendric> lol blackbox is as fast as console
[08:03] <gogeta> why is one makked 6.10
[08:03] <aftertaf> gurubie:   grub-splashimages is the package.
[08:03] <gogeta> if your only in 5.10
[08:03] <aftertaf> gogeta:  there isnt one yet 6.10
[08:03] <ckrueger> cafuego_, ok, i booted into expert mode and couldn't find any binaries that i could use...  no fdisk/cfdisk, no grub, no lilo
[08:03] <ckrueger> cafuego_, i'm thinking i'm just going to set it up on one drive and configure RAID1 in software later, would this work?
[08:03] <Trashcan> viisssssssttaaaa theeemmmmee :p
[08:03] <gogeta> some ftp musta misnamed it
[08:04] <gogeta> oh well
[08:04] <ksmurf> when my laptop blanks I have to restart X because my password is not accepted
[08:04] <gogeta> downloading dvd iso
[08:04] <gogeta> ripping out fedora
[08:04] <cafuego_> ckrueger: No, you would need to ste up a single-disk raid1 now, then add a second raid partition to thats et later.
[08:04] <gurubie> aftertaf, That more than just pics?
[08:05] <aftertaf> gurubie:  compliant pics ;)
[08:05] <aftertaf> after you need to modify your grub conf
[08:05] <samu2> So is breezy coming out tomorrow?
[08:05] <ckrueger> cafuego_, ok, then in that case, i'd like to figure out a way to get this thing booting...  the expert mode and command prompt off the CD seems completely useless
[08:05] <Trashcan> supposedly yes samu2
[08:06] <yapyccky_> hello!
[08:06] <Trashcan> hi!
[08:06] <aftertaf> ksmurf:  odd. disable 'need password when quitting screensaver'
[08:06] <yapyccky_> guys, i get always this error message: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: BIOS handoff failed
[08:06] <yapyccky_> what does it means?
[08:06] <cafuego_> ckrueger: You need to have access to the mdadm command. Then manually set up md0/md1 using mdadm.
[08:06] <ckrueger> ok
[08:06] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Once that's done, you should be able to mount /dev/md0 and/or md1, then access the commands that were installed.
[08:07] <spackest> so, I guess I didn't really need to burn those 5.10 cds, huh? :)
[08:07] <Hendric> wait!!! i got the preview release then update ALL possible updates... today i got 29 more.. tomorrow i dunno.. if i do all this upgrade...am i equal to the stable release????
[08:07] <aftertaf> spackest:  yes you did, for your friends ;)
[08:07] <gogeta> you can use dist upgrade
[08:07] <aftertaf> Hendric:  yes
[08:07] <cafuego_> ckrueger: if it never got around to installing anything, just re-do the whole thing via the installer interface.
[08:07] <spackest> I plug for ubuntu
[08:07] <yapyccky_> can anyone help me?
[08:07] <aftertaf> plug away :)
[08:07] <spackest> used to plug for debian
[08:07] <Hendric> cool.. forget the ISO... i better wait for shipit..
[08:07] <aftertaf> ask yapyccky_ ...... :)
[08:07] <ckrueger> cafuego_, it did, but it's restricted to the files on the CD since i'm in the rescue environment
[08:07] <cafuego_> Ha. The ISO takes 1 hour. Shipit takes 2 months.
[08:08] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : i did :-) i said that i get everyday this error message during boottime : ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: BIOS handoff failed
[08:08] <spackest> that server (don't install hardly anything) option sold me on my first install
[08:08] <gogeta> 1hr what ftp you on
[08:08] <cafuego_> ckrueger: *nod* that's why you need to manually run mdadm, to set up the raid devices, so you can mount them.
[08:08] <gogeta> i can get dvd iso in under a hr
[08:08] <ckrueger> cafuego_, and there's no mdadm tool anywhere, in /sbin, /bin, /usr/sbin/, /usr/bin
[08:08] <aftertaf> oki yapyccky_ got scrolled away... ;)
[08:08] <erick> Im installing gnome-desktop and its freeze on 99% what is this
[08:08] <gurubie> I put "splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/ubuntu_usplash_grub.xpm.gz" in the "menu.lst" but still get all black at grub menu time. What's going on?
[08:08] <Hendric> cafuego_, i got the preview.. then i updated all packages.. then i burned the /var/cache/apt/archive... hehehe
[08:09] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  its your usb2.0 controller. Do you have any hardware connected to usb2 at boot time?
[08:09] <cafuego_> ckrueger: perhaps not extracted yet, switch to Alt-F2 and make sure you cna access the 'Partition Disk' menu and see partitions there.
[08:09] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : mouse
[08:09] <Hendric> the updates are breaking the SPCA5XX fix...
[08:10] <ksmurf> that's better
[08:10] <ckrueger> i switched to the console and typed "find / | grep mdadm"
[08:10] <ckrueger> and couldn't find anything
[08:10] <ksmurf> it still asked for a passwork but it let me in this time
[08:10] <aftertaf> gurubie:  i dont know..... try a different splash srceen.
[08:10] <jas_> I need some help again
[08:11] <aftertaf> some didnt work for me, one did so i kept it ;)
[08:11] <gurubie> Is this a conflict with Nvidia drivers?
[08:11] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Did tyou progress the install to the point where the partitioner is started? if not, those commands won't be available yet.
[08:11] <jas_> Umm kinda
[08:11] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : can it depends on my mouse? strange, cause it works pefecly...
[08:11] <jas_> When I rebooted my pc
[08:11] <ckrueger> ahh, i'm seeing how this works
[08:11] <ckrueger> i think i can figure out some stuff from here
[08:11] <jas_> Its all text like a different runlevel with other linux distros
[08:12] <ckrueger> i'm good with grub, suck with lilo
[08:12] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  yeah. werid. If all works ok, dont worry...... but maybe file a bug on bugzilla...
[08:12] <aftertaf> !bug
[08:12] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[08:12] <ckrueger> so as long as i can install grub i'm good
[08:12] <Trashcan> hmm
[08:12] <Trashcan> opera is neat
[08:12] <Trashcan> it's pretty with the gnome theme
[08:13] <Hendric> aftertaf, bout the synaptic error.. i was trying to address that 3 days ago..
[08:13] <aftertaf> Hendric:  which error??
[08:13] <duncanm> so eclipse works from the command line, but not from the gnome menu
[08:14] <sean13_> Hey all
[08:14] <Hendric> aftertaf, "cannot run /usr/bin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status" on every exit of synaptic...
[08:14] <erick> hi sean
[08:14] <jas_> Can anyone help me get it back so its GUI again I don't know how to get it back
[08:14] <aftertaf> Hendric:  you running with sudo? or in a root term?
[08:14] <Hendric> aftertaf, hope this is fixed on the final release... it happens on a fresh install
[08:14] <aftertaf> or from menu...?
[08:14] <aurax> anyone knows when using samba, when browsing i cannot see my box in 'my network places'
[08:15] <Hendric> aftertaf, normal user... clicked synaptic (menu) .. typed in the password... after quiting gets the error
[08:15] <Hackmo> I justu updated my laptop system and now my nets broke
[08:15] <Hackmo> I went into the networking manager but it doesn't list ath0
[08:15] <aftertaf> Hendric:  try sudo synatic in a terminal.....
[08:15] <aftertaf> +p
[08:15] <Hackmo> anyone got any idea?
[08:16] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  look in /etc/networking/interfaces... is there an eth0 declared?
[08:16] <Hendric> aftertaf, i did all that... it only happens when using the full path
[08:16] <aftertaf> odd as blue cheese Hendric .....
[08:16] <aftertaf> (which is quite odd, must admit)
[08:16] <jas_> Can anyone help me get Ubuntu fixed?
[08:16] <Hendric> aftertaf, i think i told you about this that its the USB thats causing it
[08:17] <esac_> i upgraded from hoary to breezy. I used to be able to SSH over the internet, now I can't (i can ssh locally however). Any ideas ?
[08:17] <yapyccky_> thx aftertaf, thx for your help
[08:17] <kvidell> /s 4
[08:17] <kvidell> er..
[08:18] <_native_> ?
[08:18] <aurax> erick your still around ?
[08:18] <Hackmo> aftertaf, /etc/networking/interfaces doesn't exist
[08:18] <aftertaf> Hendric:  usb? even odder...
[08:18] <_native_> really?
[08:18] <yapyccky_> i've another question for all chan
[08:18] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  odd too!
[08:19] <yapyccky_> im working on a asus laptop,3.2 ghz ht
[08:19] <kvidell> so drunk, hehe.. *takes a seat and stays quiet*
[08:19] <Hendric> aftertaf, tried it 15x now... install breezy with an unsupported USB device plugged in.. then you get that strange error...
[08:19] <Hackmo> aftertaf, it all worked fine up until a few minutes ago when I installed the latest updates
[08:19] <yapyccky_> i dunno why but ububtu, and linux in general, works more slowly than windows
[08:19] <phiqtion> how can i get my wireless WAP connection working and not WEP
[08:19] <jas_> I am missing S13gdm How do I get it back?
[08:19] <yapyccky_> there are any tricks to make it faster?
[08:19] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  try this::    sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:20] <Hendric> aftertaf, i tried 3 unsupported USB devices while installing... gives out the same error... supported devices doesn't thou.
[08:20] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  have you installed the kernel for your processor type?
[08:20] <gurubie> I'm guessing I need to use the "legacy" nvidia-glx package.
[08:20] <aftertaf> Hendric:  weird, you filed a bug?
[08:20] <aftertaf> gurubie:  depends on gfx card, what do u have?
[08:20] <Hackmo> aftertaf, doen that but it did not help
[08:20] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : im working on i386 kernel, another "maybe " problem is that my swap is just 120mb (my ram is 512mb)
[08:20] <Hendric> aftertaf, haven't, maybe they won't believe it.
[08:20] <jas_> I am missing S13gdm How do I get it back?  Or do I have to re-install??
[08:21] <eyequeue> update-rc.d
[08:21] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  strange that... i just updated and all is good. Is your eth0 static or dhcp?
[08:21] <cafuego_> jas_: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/gdm<TAB>'
[08:21] <Hackmo> aftertaf, there is a light on my wifi card that lights up every 5 seconds so the laptop must still see it
[08:22] <Hackmo> it's my ath0 and it's dhcp
[08:22] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  wifi?   ok.
[08:22] <yapyccky_> aftertaf may it be a problem?
[08:22] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  better to have a bit more swap. and get the kernel package for your kernel....
[08:22] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  linux-k7 / 686
[08:22] <phiqtion> how can i get my wireless WAP connection working and not WEP>
[08:22] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : i'll go in synaptic and try to install it
[08:23] <Hackmo> aftertaf, I just check on my hoary desktop and that doesn't have /etc/networking either ?
[08:23] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  cant help you with wifi, never ever set one up :/
[08:23] <yapyccky_> then i'll ask u how is possible to increase swap now with my distro up
[08:23] <aftertaf> /etc/network ...........   my bad
[08:23] <Christophe971> hi. Is there a list of packages wich is preinstalled on the Breezy Distribution ? Or a list of package wich is present on the install cd ? (i'd prefer this)
[08:23] <Hackmo> aftertaf, ah ok thanks anyway
[08:23] <_native_> im a wifi guy
[08:23] <jas_> It says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[08:24] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[08:24] <damo21> i know it involves iwconfig instead of ifconfig
[08:24] <damo21> :P
[08:24] <_native_> i suggest the book wi-foo. its very good.
[08:24] <eyequeue> Christophe971:  was there a file named manifest* on your mirror?
[08:24] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : why linux k7? if my laptop is P4
[08:24] <aftertaf> Hendric:  they will. or at least theyll contact you for more info.
[08:24] <Christophe971> eyequeue: i don't have mirror
[08:24] <cafuego_> jas_: did gdm... expand into an actual .deb filename when you pressed tab?
[08:24] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:   linux-k7 / 686 ... in your case, 686
[08:25] <phiqtion> Can i see any available wireless networks in range with Ubuntu?
[08:25] <kwilliams0> hey all...new to this.  Tried installing ubuntu 5.10 on my Toshiba Tecra laptop...it loads all right, and within 20 seconds shuts down.  Anyone here of this, or have ideas to troubleshoot?
[08:25] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : so, not linux-686-smp?
[08:25] <eyequeue> Christophe971:  let me find you a file then
[08:25] <Hackmo> aftertaf, interface is listed when I do an ls in /etc/network but it says it's not a directory
[08:25] <Christophe971> eyequeue: what are you searching for ?
[08:25] <Christophe971> i just searching for a list
[08:25] <Christophe971> what package are avaible on breezy install cd
[08:26] <jas_> no
[08:26] <jas_> It didn't cafuego
[08:26] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  smp is for multiprocessors. Do ou have 2 proc?
[08:26] <No1Viking> I have Breezy and am trying to view streaming videos in WMV or Realaudio. I have Mplayer and Realplayer installed, stil it does not work. Where can I find instructions?
[08:26] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : in xp i see 2 processors
[08:26] <Trashcan> if we're already running breezy, will we need to dist-upgrade tomorrow?
[08:26] <cafuego_> jas_: Ok. 'sudo apt-get install rcconf'; sudo rcconf. make sure gdm is on.
[08:27] <cafuego_> aftertaf: probably HT.
[08:27] <Hendric> aftertaf, does video ram matter for increasing speed??  e.g. 64MB and 128MB.. does it help increase gnome speed??
[08:27] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  its a file......     open with cat, just to see....
[08:27] <cafuego_> yapyccky_: Due to bugs, hyperthreading is disabled on SMP kernels.
[08:27] <Hackmo> aftertaf, yeah sorry i'm being a bit slow tonight
[08:27] <cafuego_> Hendric: No.
[08:27] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  follow cafuego_ on this, much more an expert on linux in general that me anyway ;)
[08:27] <yapyccky_> ok aftertaf :-D
[08:27] <Licker> would whats the command to stop services?
[08:27] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  lol, me too.
[08:27] <Hendric> cafuego_, so i better increase RAM... and forget about the video card, right??
[08:28] <Hackmo> aftertaf, it has "auto ath0" at the end of the interfaces file
[08:28] <cafuego_> Licker: sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop
[08:28] <yapyccky_> so cafuego_ : -) what kernel should i install? sorry for such a questions...
[08:28] <cafuego_> Hendric: How much ram do you have?
[08:28] <eyequeue> Christophe971:  look at the appropriate list and manifest files for your platform near the bottom of http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[08:28] <phiqtion> Can i see any available wireless networks in range with Ubuntu?
[08:28] <HrdwrBob> phiqtion: it's in the drop down box in the network config
[08:28] <jas_> When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf
[08:28] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  rubbish idea i know, but has a reboot helped at all?
[08:28] <Hendric> 128MB + 256MB RAM on my server + 128MB video card
[08:29] <aftertaf> 128M video ram is more than enough.....
[08:29] <cafuego_> yapyccky_: If you insist of having HT (it's not really faster during normal use) you'll need to either wait until the bugs are resolved OR conpile yer own kernel.
[08:29] <aftertaf> imho
[08:29] <Hendric> if the video ram doesn't matter then i better pull it out and use the onboard...
[08:29] <cafuego_> Hendric: 384Mb should be fine for Gnome.
[08:29] <Hackmo> aftertaf, I tried a reboot but it didn't help
[08:29] <jas_> When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf
[08:29] <Christophe971> eyequeue: oh yesss i've avoided that , thanks :)
[08:29] <yapyccky_> cafuego_ : i dont need it if u tell me its not so important. so its enought for me linux-i686, right?
[08:30] <aftertaf> kwilliams0:  try checking the md5 checksum of the iso, eventually burn another CD. could also be a hardware pb. Hard to tell...
[08:30] <Hendric> well ok... for 384MB i feel sad for my swap space.. coz it doesn't swap anymore
[08:30] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  does dmesg show you anything?
[08:30] <Licker> cafuego_: is there a commmand to stop ALL services?
[08:30] <aftertaf> Licker:  shutdown -h now ?
[08:30] <damo21> i have 512MB
[08:31] <damo21> + 128MB video
[08:31] <flonejek> umm, I have a sapphire 9600 XT and it used to work with fglrx but after a breezy update I keep getting "Operation not permitted" from "sudo modprobe fglrx" and I've tried the official driver from atis site (make install) and that still gets the same error, is there something im missing?
[08:31] <yapyccky_> ok, i've installed...i'll reboot to check if it works good. thx alot for your patient :-)
[08:31] <kwilliams0> thanks aftertaf...I'll check the ISO now...Don't think it's hardware as I reformatted from Windows 2000 Pro (copied data to another machine) prior to installing.
[08:31] <Licker> after whats that command do?
[08:31] <yapyccky_> brb in few mins
[08:31] <flonejek> "sudo init 1" stops all services
[08:31] <aftertaf> Licker:  it shuts dow your linux :)
[08:31] <Licker> haha
[08:31] <aftertaf> with init1 you need root pw, no?
[08:31] <DrZeus> hi all.  Im trying to resize my HDD with partition magic for installing the ubuntu 5.10 preview.  Has anybody tried partition magic for making extra partitions?
[08:31] <Hackmo> aftertaf, nope dmesg shows nothing
[08:31] <flonejek> yah you do
[08:32] <Christophe971> ohhhh
[08:32] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  hmm... you need to find someone who can help you... i am as much in the dark on wifi as you were when you started with it... sorry :/
[08:32] <phiqtion> HrdwrBob: what drop down box?
[08:33] <Christophe971> don't tell me that gcc is already available  on the i386 breezy install cd ? :D
[08:33] <nnonix> Dr: The ubuntu installer will let you resize an existing partition and create one for the install. No need to use partition magic
[08:33] <Christophe971> ofmg
[08:33] <Hackmo> aftertaf, thanks for trying
[08:33] <flonejek> DrZeus: yah it works, but its easier if you shrink your win partition and just use the partition manager to create ubuntus partitions automatically
[08:33] <jas_> When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf
[08:33] <DrZeus> nnonix-> i asked because I just have one partition with all the size used
[08:33] <flonejek> i think ubuntus part manager won't resize ntfs
[08:34] <DrZeus> and I cant split it or anything like that
[08:34] <DrZeus> doesnt let me
[08:34] <Slaj_R> i'm getting the "couldn't stat source package list file" error when starting synaptic.  I tried apt-get -f install, followed by apt-get update; but that doesn't work.
[08:34] <nnonix> DrZeus: Yep, you'll have an option early in the Ubuntu installation to resize an existing partition (make it smaller) and install Ubuntu in the freespace.
[08:34] <dell500> I need to update 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4, but apt-get doesn't findi t
[08:34] <DrZeus> and Im kinda afraid of shrinking the partition because of losing my data
[08:34] <DrZeus> can that happen?
[08:34] <jas_> cafuego_ any ideas?
[08:34] <flonejek> if theres a power out it can
[08:35] <nnonix> DrZeus: ... meaning, the free space you create by making your existing partition smaller.
[08:35] <yapyccky> here I am, with 686 kernel
[08:35] <DrZeus> nnonix->doing that doesnt damage or do something to the actual data in the partition?
[08:35] <flonejek> if you can get your hands on hirens boot cd that has paragon partition manager which can resume shrinking after a power failure, but its harder to use than partition magic
[08:36] <jas_> Should I just reinstall my system and reinstall the Nvidia drivers?  I don't have anything else on there I'm worried about
[08:36] <nnonix> DrZeus: Yes, it can happen ... with any application, including Partition magic. All I can tell you is that I've done it and it works very nice.
[08:36] <aftertaf> Slaj_R:  check your sources.list against ubotu's message
[08:36] <DrZeus> pics, music, etc?
[08:36] <aftertaf> !tell Slaj_R about repos
[08:36] <Slaj_R> thanks
[08:36] <nnonix> DrZeus: If everything goes as it should, your existing partition will be made smaller and all your data will be intact.
[08:37] <DrZeus> ok, so in the ubuntu installer there is an option for shrinking the partition
[08:37] <flonejek> DrZeus: resizing just moves all your data to the start of the partition and then truncates the free space at the end from it so you can create other partitions
[08:38] <flonejek> DrZeus: yes, but I think it doesnt resize ntfs which is winXP's default
[08:38] <cycom> what the hell? why did VLC just turn into a macosx style interface that doesn't have any part that works?
[08:38] <cycom> I upgrade, and it dies.
[08:38] <flonejek> cycom: its the latest uild the wxvlc skin is broken
[08:38] <flonejek> it happened to me too
[08:38] <flonejek> use totem-xine for now
[08:38] <DrZeus> flonejek: moving the data can affect it?
[08:38] <thux> Hi, wonder why gnome-terminal goes totally blue time-to-time when using remote irssi?
[08:39] <No1Viking> I have Breezy and am trying to view streaming videos in WMV or Realaudio. I have Mplayer and Realplayer installed, stil it does not work. Where can I find solutions?
[08:39] <cycom> flonejek: Gee, thanks. :)
[08:39] <flonejek> DrZeus: nah it wont damage your data
[08:40] <Madpilot> No1Viking: have you used the Ubuntu wiki's RestrictedFormats info/
[08:40] <No1Viking> Madpilot, no
[08:40] <flonejek> No1Viking: you can just use totem-xine
[08:40] <aftertaf> thux:  BSOD emulator... hidden easter egg maybe? :)
[08:40] <No1Viking> Madpilot, will do that
[08:41] <thux> aftertaf: could be :)
[08:41] <woodwizzle> anyone here running knoppmyth?
[08:41] <kwilliams0> aftertaf...the MD5Sum checked out--it was a valid ISO.  Strange behavior--it just loads up and then decides to shut itself off.  I was able to check that the power setting read 87% prior to shutting down, but that's it.  Would you recommend I try the 5.04 version?
[08:41] <DrZeus> flonejek: i see.  Thnx
[08:42] <aftertaf> kwilliams0:  the 5.10 may not be 100% stable..... but maybe test on another PC, see if crash at same point?
[08:42] <esac_> anybody know a kde alternative to firestarter ?
[08:42] <Madpilot> !tell No1Viking about restricted
[08:42] <thux> esac_: guarddog?
[08:42] <jas_> Can anyone help me?
[08:42] <flonejek> !about restricted
[08:42] <ubotu> flonejek: I give up, what is it?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:43] <jas_> I need some help I need some help getting my /ect/rd2.d/S13gdm file back
[08:43] <flonejek> ubotu: what is what? ;P
[08:43] <ubotu> flonejek: what are you talking about?
[08:43] <kwilliams0> aftertaf--I have some coworkers who installed it fine...  The Toshiba Tecra 8100 was a little difficult even for windows 2000 (video driver), so while bummed, I'm not suprised.  I'll download the stable release and cross my fingers.
[08:43] <jas_> For some reason it is gone and I can't get it bakc
[08:43] <jas_> back^
[08:43] <aftertaf> kwilliams0:  ok. keep us informed ;)
[08:43] <flonejek> ubotu: was just playing with server commands
[08:43] <ubotu> flonejek: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:44] <aftertaf> flonejek:  type !bot
[08:44] <Madpilot> !tell flonejek about ubotu
[08:44] <aftertaf> ;)
[08:44] <flonejek> !bot
[08:44] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to flonejek? I think not. Bot, got, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[08:44] <flonejek> oh lol
[08:44] <flonejek> oops
[08:44] <Trashcan> lol..
[08:44] <flonejek> hehe
[08:44] <Trashcan> !bot
[08:44] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to trashcan? I think not. Bot, plot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[08:44] <Trashcan> silly :p
[08:45] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:45] <Christophe971> tsss :=
[08:45] <Christophe971> :)
[08:45] <flonejek> anyone else had problems with fglrx module not lodading?
[08:45] <shreevatsa> Can I get libavcodec2 from somewhere?
[08:45] <orko> i need to replace aacraid.ko in the hoary install cd, whats the best way to do that? (the one shipped is buggy with my raid controller)
[08:46] <Trashcan> what's your favorite download manager
[08:46] <Trashcan> ?
[08:46] <flonejek> Trashcan: uh downloader4x is nice
[08:46] <Trashcan> thanks
[08:48] <flonejek> orko: maybe wait till breezy comes out tommorow and get that instead?
[08:48] <fmasi> how do i set my super video output to whork for my tb i have an ati radeom mobility X700
[08:49] <adrian_> i would like to know something, i want to use autocad but i dont like to use it on windows, i would like to use it on linux os, somebody can help me please? is it possible?
[08:49] <orko> flonejek: is there any way to find out what version of a particular driver will be in it? (aacraid)
[08:49] <webdwarf> adrian_; id be interested in that too...
[08:50] <Trashcan> lol
[08:50] <adrian_> yes, there is a Qcad, but people say that its not as good as autocad, so i think i need to install windows in my another partition...
[08:50] <Trashcan> downloader 4x opens, makes a funny noise, and closes
[08:50] <Trashcan> :
[08:50] <Trashcan> :o
[08:50] <Trashcan> Segmentation fault
[08:51] <Trashcan> lolol
[08:51] <damnhil> Do people here speak Englsih?
[08:51] <Trashcan> yes..
[08:51] <damnhil>  How do I pronounce the name "Caroline"?
[08:51] <Trashcan> kare-oh-line
[08:51] <flonejek> Trashcan: sorry i cant help you there, im in Mac OS X atm
[08:52] <Trashcan> :p
[08:52] <cafuego_> damnhil: depends on the language
[08:52] <Trashcan> or if it helps
[08:52] <Trashcan> kare-oh-l-eye-n
[08:52] <adrian_> do you want to pronounce at spanish?
[08:52] <adrian_> carolina
[08:52] <damnhil> Trashcan, I see, the last part of Caroline pronounces like air"line"
[08:52] <Trashcan> right
[08:52] <fmasi> how do i set my super video output to whork for my tb i have an ati radeom mobility X700
[08:53] <izm99> hey all, anybody be able to help me with nvidia problems?
[08:53] <starscalling> INTNET="192.168.1.0/24"  <<<--- what does that designate?
[08:53] <orko> i might try the latest rc breezy. the last preview i tried kernel panic'd instnatly
[08:53] <Trashcan> a range
[08:53] <starscalling> im running a linksys over here
[08:53] <starscalling> lets say its default gateway is 192.168.1.1
[08:53] <Trashcan> 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.24 i think (get a second opinion)
[08:53] <cafuego_> starscalling: network address + mask. addresses 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.0.255
[08:53] <starscalling> o
[08:53] <Trashcan> ok
[08:54] <bimberi> starscalling: that your network ranges from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.255
[08:54] <cafuego_> starscalling: /24 is an alternative way of writing 255.255.255.0
[08:54] <Trashcan> why is it 24?
[08:54] <cafuego_> Trashcan: 32bit, first 24 are 1, last 8 are 0. = 255.255.255.0
[08:54] <bimberi> each number represents 8 bits - so 24 covers the first 3 numbers
[08:54] <Trashcan> gotcha
[08:54] <izm99> when I set the driver to "nvidia", the monitor changes mode when starting gdm, but nothing EVER shows up and I have to hard reboot.  any ideas?
[08:55] <Trashcan> right
[08:55] <cafuego_> Trashcan: apt-get install 'ipcalc' for hours of fun.
[08:55] <Trashcan> lol
[08:55] <flonejek> izm99: probably because youre loading glx?
[08:56] <izm99> flonejek, yes, that's in my modules.  I just followed the directions on the wiki...  I'll comment it out and see what happens.
[08:57] <starscalling> so i would use say eth0 instead of ppp0 b/c i dont use that modem/dsl thing?
[08:57] <flonejek> izm99: i could be wrong its been a while
[08:57] <flonejek> starscalling: ya
[08:57] <izm99> flonejek, I don't think that did anything. :(
[08:58] <flonejek> izm99: actually use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:59] <izm99> flonejek, ok, I'll try that... once it's done checking the filesystem...
[08:59] <starscalling> crap
[08:59] <starscalling> i couldnt find a good config example of porting for firehol !_!
[08:59] <flonejek> izm99: and see if it gets the right modules, i just checked, you should load glx and dri but not Glcore for 3d acceleration
[09:00] <syli725> hi, some questoins about apt-get. I am new to apt-get. I used yum before. 1, where do I download the latest repository? does apt need it? source.list is the repository?  2. i saw apt-cache search and apt-file search , which one is going to search my local files and which one is going to search online repository? if i want to know what packages available online.
[09:00] <starscalling> im in the middle of this sh-3.00# thing
[09:00] <izm99> flonejek, so only comment out glcore?
[09:00] <starscalling> how do i clear out what im doing and not i repeat NOT save changes?
[09:00] <starscalling> ill find something to deal with this tomorrow or osmething !_!
[09:00] <shreevatsa> What's the address of the marillat repository? I mean, which one should I use; I'm on Hoary
[09:00] <arkais> hi
[09:01] <flonejek> izm99: yeah, but thats not your problem I think youve probably got the res wrong, the dpkg-reconfigure autodetects it which might fix it
[09:02] <Orborde> Question: I have an AMD64 processor, but I used the i386 Ubuntu so I'd have a fun 32-bit OS, since 64-bit is kind of malsupported. SO. Should I switch my kernel from the default i386 to something else, such as the i686 or K7 ?
[09:02] <flonejek> syli725: sources.list is the list of repositories apt checks, apt-cache searches your files, apt-file i have no idea, I don't thjink you can search online repositories
[09:02] <flonejek> Orborde K7 should work
[09:03] <Orborde> flonejek: Would something else be a better choice, perhaps?
[09:03] <arkais> someone can recommend me a virtual machine for install on windows,
[09:03] <Cavallo> hi
[09:03] <Cavallo> how I can install deb package if I have it on disk ?
[09:03] <arkais> i needed becouse , i want install linux without unistall windows
[09:03] <Cavallo> apt-get ?
[09:03] <arkais> jeje
[09:03] <cafuego_> Cavallosudo dpkg-i foo.deb
[09:03] <flonejek> Orborde k8 if its there, k is the amd line of procs
[09:03] <flonejek> Cavallo use dpkg -i
[09:04] <flonejek> "sudo dpkg -i <pathname to package>
[09:04] <flonejek> "
[09:04] <syli725> flonejek, thanks for reply. but how can I search a file that I haven't installed. for example, I know there is a program called something like "blah", but the actual package name is "blahte".  if i run apt-get blah, it won't find the package, and tell me there is no package called "blah"
[09:04] <Orborde> flonejek: Is K8 the 640bit?
[09:04] <flonejek> arkais: try qemu
[09:04] <Orborde> flonejek: 640bit...wow, that'd be powerful.
[09:05] <flonejek> lol no i think its 64 bit its in the poackage description
[09:05] <Licker> E: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  <--anyone know what that means?
[09:05] <Orborde> flonejek: I should probably nab the K7 then, right?
[09:05] <flonejek> syli: apt-cache search blah will list all matches in the name and theres a few more commandline tags for searching descriptions, it searches stuff you haven't got installed, the list of packages available.
[09:06] <flonejek> orborde: ya
[09:06] <Miles> Hi all, i'm installing some server software that requires MySQL4.0.26 and doesn't support the latest MySQL - using apt-get will grab the latest version from the repository i presume. Is there a way for me to specify that it must pull a specific version or shud i just download MySQL from the official website?
[09:06] <DShepher1> 1 day left for breezy. you guys think we going to make it in timehe release
[09:06] <DShepher1> 1 day left for breezy. you guys think we going to make it in time for the  release
[09:06] <Orborde> DShepher1: Who cares? I have broadband. Update things willy-nilly for all I care.
[09:06] <flonejek> Miles: you can use force package version in synaptic
[09:06] <syli725> flonejek, can you just teach me a little bit more about apt-get? because for yum. i just do yum search packagename.  I have no idea what apt-get is going to do.  ok. apt-cache search the list. but that is on my local machine. right? what happened the repository just added the new package that is i want to install.
[09:07] <Orborde> Is it just me, or is Breezy's GNOME major faster?
[09:07] <Cavallo> where I can find on internet package list and some tutorials how to create package for ubuntu ?
[09:08] <Grinak> gnome is faster for sure
[09:08] <Orborde> Grinak: Rockin'
[09:08] <snausages> kde runs faster on my ibook
[09:08] <Miles> flonejek > oh? thats great. ty
[09:08] <izm99> flonejek, for entering the BusID, if it's an AGP card, do I enter AGP:0:01:00.0 ?  lspci returns 0000:01:00.0
[09:08] <erick> Guys help need help, Just finish installing the gnome-desktop, after that I start the gui and then it freeze, vertical colored line instead of the graphics
[09:09] <Burgundavia> Cavallo, join #ubuntu-motu and ask taht question
[09:09] <Miles> Video card spec Erick?
[09:09] <flonejek> syli725: "apt-get update" will update your cache with the package list from the server, then "apt-cache search <package>" will find similar stuff to that name, and "apt-get install <package>" will install it, apt-cache just reads the repository database you sync with the servers, apt-get manages the packages for installing and whatnot
[09:10] <flonejek> izm99: I dunno, did it detect anything in dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:10] <ernstp> should eclipse really depend om mozilla-browser?
[09:11] <izm99> flonejek, no.  there's no default value.
[09:11] <flonejek> ernstp: yeah, it renders using the mozilla gecko engine
[09:11] <flonejek> izm99: try the lspci value, i dont thing you need AGP there
[09:11] <izm99> flonejek, ok
[09:11] <Miles> Whats the lowest spec machine u guys hav got a full Ubuntu running on? I've managed a 133mhz P1 with 32mb ram.
[09:11] <Grinak> that reminds me I have to find a good distro for putting on my spare ibook
[09:12] <syli725> flonejek, thank you very much. just a few more questions. 1, where is .deb packages going to be? download to where? 2, can I just download without installing? 3, how to install or update ubuntu package if i download a package alone. in rpm, i just do rpm -Uvh. 4, are you saying that if the online repository has a new package called "blah", i didn't run apt-get update first. so if i do, apt-get install blah. It will tell me "error no s
[09:12] <syli725> uch package". right?
[09:12] <flonejek> Grinak: ubuntu works pretty damn well on ppc
[09:12] <lemics_> only for the stupid therm_adt746x module
[09:13] <erick> Miles I don't know Im using HPBrio p3 933mhz built-in video
[09:13] <Miles> and it only freezes when the GUI loads eh?
[09:14] <erick> yap Miles once I issue the cmd start x its freeze and decide to reboot
[09:14] <flonejek> syli725:1. i think in /var/apt or something, 2. yes, use the tag --download-only, 3. use dpkg -i <package> and you can convert rpms to debs with "alien <rpmpackage.rpm> and it will output in the dir your in <rpmpackage.deb> 4. yep thats right
[09:15] <gurubie> I guess this ubuntu thing will do. :) Now K7 works (load it with the meta package,) Grub gui works, usplash works, "Legacy" Nvidia works direct 3D. Who Hoo!
[09:15] <erick> after that i got this error General_font failed and *t_kernel_font: failed and then it freeze after checking the battery state, it said scheduler system No such file or Directory
[09:16] <Miles> i'd say it def. a driver compat problem for which i'm largely useless (i run linux as a server stuck in a cupboard and ssh to it)
[09:16] <syli725> flonejek, thank you very much. I am using fedora now. plan to install kubuntu tonight. btw, just one more question. how to update a package if i have .deb. i do dpkg -U ?
[09:16] <ernstp> flonejek, but things in breezy that use that engine get it from the firefox libs!
[09:16] <gurubie> ..oh and less I forget 802.11 WiFi with the K7 set too.
[09:16] <Miles> Eric > Hav u done a re-install?
[09:17] <erick> no
[09:17] <flonejek> ernstp: yeah true, epiphanys kinda old though
[09:17] <erick> should i reinstall it
[09:18] <flonejek> syli725: yeah dpkg -i will ask to upgrade if package exists, I think -U would do the same
[09:18] <Miles> Eric > tough to say, i'm still kinda new to ubuntu, esp. in the driver/graphics side of things... anyone got any thoughts on this?
[09:18] <GTroy_>  http://tinypic.com/ei2sf6.jpg
[09:18] <Hendric> Miles, im on a P1 200MHZ with 64MB... got a GUI.. xfce hehehehe.. faster than win95
[09:18] <GTroy_> go there!!
[09:18] <syli725> flonejek, thank you very very much. see you. :)
[09:18] <Miles> GTroy> running v5.04
[09:18] <flonejek> syli725: no probs
[09:18] <GTroy_> no, running 5.10
[09:19] <Miles> GTroy> ah lucky u, i must pull down 5.10 tonight -looks awesome.
[09:19] <Hendric> Anyone here knows how to speed up Openoffice?? it loads like hell... abiword with similar features is lightning fast..
[09:19] <GTroy_> yeah it's nice
[09:19] <Miles> GTroy: i havent tried full on a P1 133 yet... perhaps i'll tru
[09:19] <cafuego_> Hendric: Buy a faster machine.
[09:19] <NoUse> Hendric OpenOffice2 has fixed some of those problems
[09:20] <erick> Miles thanks
[09:20] <Miles> Hendric: sys specs?
[09:20] <Madpilot> Hendric: OO is just a big app...
[09:20] <flonejek> erick: umm sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through your graphics card setup
[09:20] <Miles> Eric> apologies i cant b of help.
[09:20] <Hendric> NoUse, im on the most updated OO in breezy
[09:20] <ahmad> when i use apt-get to install packages like mysql or php4-gd i get the following error:The following packages have unmet dependencies
[09:20] <Hendric> i use abiword thou... faster than win  wordpad
[09:20] <NoUse> Hendric what are your sys specs?
[09:20] <nnonix> Hendric: 2 seconds for writer to open here
[09:21] <flonejek> ahmad: try running "apt-get -f install"
[09:21] <Hendric> P1 200MHZ with 64MB RAM EDO... 4GB HD...
[09:21] <erick> flonejek, I wish I can log on command line but its freeze on detecting the battery state
[09:21] <NoUse> Hendric thats your problem
[09:21] <flonejek> erick: type ctrl-alt-f1 then do it from tty1
[09:21] <Miles> Hendric: well, the fact that it even runs shud make u feel happy/.
[09:21] <ahmad> same thing
[09:21] <Hendric> lolx.. why can't they make it as fast as abiword... if they have the same features to offer...
[09:22] <nnonix> Hendric: Ouch!
[09:22] <lorenzod> Hendric, why not just use Abiword then?
[09:22] <NoUse> Hendric abiword is a word processor, OO is a fulll suite
[09:22] <Miles> Hendric: Cos OO is like a hundred times bigger and more mem intensiv than Abi
[09:22] <Hendric> except for abi which doesn't have a more detailed printing options...like black only. color draft etc...
[09:22] <flonejek> ahmad: sounds like your repos are conflicting, um try "apt-get update" then "apt-get -f install"
[09:22] <erick> flonejek Im not sure it will works becasue after ubuntu check for the battery it freeze
[09:22] <lorenzod> Abiword is superior in almost every way..
[09:22] <nnonix> Hendric: If Abiword was MS Office compatible it wouldn't be so fast.
[09:22] <cafuego_> Hendric: Honestly, why did you even TRY OOo on that?
[09:22] <erick> can abiword support msoffice
[09:22] <flonejek> erick: i meant from the frozen gnome
[09:22] <cafuego_> Hendric: machines with less than 256MB of ram need not apply.
[09:23] <aftertaf> Parisi:  ctcp ping?
[09:23] <lorenzod> erick, it does
[09:23] <jsgotangco> abiword can open *.doc
[09:23] <flonejek> erick: ctrl-alt-f1 should switch you out of xserver
[09:23] <Miles> *Kicks stupid P1*
[09:23] <ahmad> i did apt-get update
[09:23] <cafuego_> Does abiword open .odt?
[09:23] <Hendric> if they're is an abiword plugin which will enable full printing options.. i will forget about OpenOffice.. and one more thing.. Abiword is MSoffice compatible too...
[09:23] <ahmad> not solved
[09:23] <Miles> *goes to find an old celeron box*
[09:23] <Trashcan> ooh
[09:24] <lorenzod> cafuego_ it should do with 2.4, but haven't tried it yet.
[09:24] <aftertaf> plug n panic
[09:24] <cafuego_> Hendric: Word != Office.
[09:24] <nnonix> Hendric: there's more to MSoffice compatibility than being able to open the file.
[09:24] <flonejek> hendric: you can choose full printing options from your printer properties pane
[09:24] <ahmad> i get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:24] <ahmad>   php4-gd: Depends: libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.33) but it is not installable
[09:24] <Hendric> flonejek, cannot set color options etc.. like OO offers...
[09:24] <cafuego_> OOo is a full suite, with app scripting and macro support etc. Not just a word processor like abiword is. Don't compare apples with pears.
[09:25] <flonejek> ahmad: its tricky but each time it says that you gotta try instaling that package i.e. apt-get install libgd2-xpm would be your first step
[09:25] <ssh_rdp> hey , is there any way to add custom frequencies to scaling_available_frequencies ?
[09:25] <cafuego_> Mind you, OOwriter 2still takes a whole three seconds to start <heh>
[09:25] <flonejek> until you get to the blocking package
[09:25] <Hendric> i don't need to fully comply with MS standards. and i just type documents.. nothing special
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> omw
[09:26] <erick> flonejek what do you think should I reinstall it and use the default or reinstall and stick with the server mode
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> i have nx8220
[09:26] <Hendric> :) abiword more printing options... anyone?
[09:26] <cafuego_> Hendric: The abiword or koffice or even vim is fine.
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> ubuntu installer on hoary doesnt run
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> when it runs screen goes blank
[09:26] <johnsie2> Is there a way to update all my packages without using  the gui?
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> any ideas ?
[09:26] <cafuego_> johnsie2: yep, sudo aptitude
[09:26] <flonejek> erick: a straight reinstall should be fine, have you got ubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:27] <johnsie2> thanks
[09:27] <Razor-X> cafuego_: I have to say, after using a minimalistic WM, things like OO become bearable
[09:27] <flonejek> johnsie2 or "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade"
[09:27] <flonejek> johnsie2 or "sudo apt-get update && sudo dist-upgrade" i mena
[09:28] <erick> yes before actually im using it on my pc
[09:28] <ssh_rdp> in windows i can lower the cpu frequency downto 100mhz
[09:28] <ssh_rdp> but there is a 600mhz lower limit in ubuntu
[09:28] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: In windows, do you use proprietary vendor software to do so?
[09:28] <HrdwrBob> I think you will find that it may not really go to 100mhz
[09:29] <ssh_rdp> yes
[09:29] <flonejek> i must go to uni now, later
[09:29] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: Then I think the software is probably lying. 99.9% sure HrdwrBob is right. Modern cpus don't scale down that far.
[09:29] <ssh_rdp> it is in 140mhz in normal usage playing mp3s and screensaver
[09:29] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: What cpu do you have?
[09:29] <jas_> Can someone help me?
[09:30] <ssh_rdp> centrino 1.7
[09:30] <jas_> cafuego good your still here
[09:30] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: You canc ehck thich speeds that scales to on the intel website. I bet it won't say 100 or 140 MHz
[09:30] <ssh_rdp> ok
[09:31] <jas_> I rewrote the whole file S13gdm
[09:31] <jas_> From the copy I have here on my laptop
[09:31] <jas_> And it still won't load it back into GUI
[09:31] <Hendric> Gyach-E on ubuntu made my system perfect.. with SPCA5xx fix.. webcam and voice chat worked like a charm... :)
[09:31] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: More likely the windows software scales to 600 MHz, then notices only 15% cpu load and rounds that to 140 MHz.
[09:31] <delmonico> how can I view A/CNAME records of a domain in the console? i forgot the command :/
[09:31] <cafuego_> delmonico: dig?
[09:32] <ssh_rdp> no:D
[09:32] <jas_> cafuego you were helping me earlier
[09:32] <ssh_rdp> i am just checking the centrino specs
[09:32] <jas_> My internet went out
[09:32] <cafuego_> jas_: Just symlink S13gdm to ../gdm
[09:33] <cafuego_> jas_: Don't put an ACTUAL file there
[09:33] <Syruss> anyone care to help me whttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74299&highlight=shfs+unstable ?ith this:
[09:33] <Hendric> cafuego_, will the spca5xx driver be fixed on tomorrow's release??
[09:33] <jas_> Can you tell me full command I am a bit new to Linux
[09:33] <Syruss> with this i mean:
[09:33] <Syruss> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74299&highlight=shfs+unstable
[09:33] <Syruss> :)
[09:33] <Licker> has anyone tried installing CGI:IRC?
[09:33] <cafuego_> Syruss: Don't use shfs; it makes the kernel crash.
[09:33] <Syruss> yes
[09:33] <Jedrick> How to play .dat file on vlc?
[09:33] <delmonico> cafuego_: yeah thanks
[09:33] <Syruss> cafuego_: that's not really a solution is it? :)
[09:34] <cafuego_> Syruss: Contact the authors, tell them their software is buggy?
[09:34] <Syruss> cafuego_: it's not though
[09:34] <C-Keen> moin.
[09:34] <Syruss> I've used it for years on redhat and gentoo
[09:34] <Syruss> flawlessly
[09:34] <cafuego_> Syruss: it is. It reliably crashes the kernel here as well.
[09:34] <Syruss> heh
[09:34] <cafuego_> Syruss: ... and it won't unmount.
[09:34] <Syruss> yer, I have the same problems
[09:35] <jas_> Can you tell me full command I am a bit new to Linux
[09:35] <Syruss> hopefully it'll be ironed out by the first release
[09:35] <jas_> cafuego
[09:35] <Syruss> cafuego_: try loading a file in emacs over a gnome-vfs mount
[09:35] <Syruss> :/
[09:35] <cafuego_> Syruss: Your mistake there is this "emacs" thing ;-)
[09:35] <Syruss> rofl
[09:35] <Syruss> or vim then, heh
[09:35] <Hendric> jas_, open a terminal and press tab repeatedly.. then answer Yes
[09:36] <jas_> I can't open a terminal
[09:36] <cafuego_> Syruss: If I have ssh access, i just run vim remotely.
[09:36] <Syruss> and if you say to me nano/gedit, this conversation is over
[09:36] <Razor-X> cafuego_: there is an emacs, only, certain people went blind from ``Vi fever'' :P
[09:36] <C-Keen> Syruss: why don't you use emacs' build in capability to open files via ssh?
[09:36] <Syruss> C-Keen: shfs is really much easier that messing around on a per-application basis
[09:36] <Cavallo> does ATI dirvers for 7000 series card exists?
[09:36] <cafuego_> Syruss: I'd keep wella way from shfs until that's fixed, though.
[09:37] <C-Keen> what is this shfs anyway
[09:37] <Syruss> yer, or until someone figures out something
[09:37] <Syruss> :p
[09:37] <cafuego_> Cavallo: the open 'ati' driver fully supports that (or should,a nyway)
[09:37] <Hendric> jas_, then ctrl+alt+f1... login then do the tab thing...
[09:37] <Syruss> shfs is cool
[09:37] <Syruss> :)
[09:37] <Syruss> look it up on google.
[09:37] <Cavallo> cafuego_: where I can get it ?
[09:37] <Syruss> it's similar to 'connect to server' thing in gnome
[09:37] <aurax> samba is kewl
[09:37] <aurax> hehe
[09:37] <cafuego_> Cavallo: it's on the xorg-driver-ati package.
[09:37] <aurax> what will happend if ill broadcast on my external ethernet subnet ?
[09:37] <aurax> hehe
[09:37] <Razor-X> Syruss: so it's using an SSH connected drive as an FS?
[09:38] <aurax> damn i got like 300 boxes widely opend
[09:38] <Hendric> cafuego_, will the spca5xx driver be fixed on tomorrow's release??
[09:38] <aurax> yummy!
[09:38] <Syruss> yer Razor-X
[09:38] <cafuego_> C-Keen: shfs is a userspace fs that mounts remote dirs via ssh. Nice in theory, buggy as hell in practice.
[09:38] <Syruss> but it's unstable in badger
[09:38] <C-Keen> shfs does not seem like a good solution to the problem
[09:38] <cafuego_> Hendric: Maybe.
[09:38] <Razor-X> Syruss: why not just manage the file using SFTP?
[09:38] <C-Keen> I'd rather use sfs for this purpose.
[09:38] <Razor-X> or SCP, whatever floats your boat
[09:39] <Jedrick> How to play .dat file movie? coz it wont play on any of my movie player like totem mplayer and vlc
[09:39] <cafuego_> Razor-X: well, shfs is transparent when it works.
[09:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey all.
[09:39] <izm99> flonejek, I tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it did not work.  same problem.
[09:39] <Razor-X> cafuego_: yeah, but in this case, it doesen't :P
[09:39] <cafuego_> Razor-X: yah
[09:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Tell Crys_Ubu_PC about bootloader
[09:39] <Hendric> izm99, wats your problem?
[09:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Yeah, didn't think so.
[09:39] <No1Viking> Whatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy.
[09:39] <C-Keen> Jedrick: a .dat file could be everything. If you have reason to think it is taken from a vcd try a vcd player
[09:39] <cafuego_> Crys_Ubu_PC: /msg ubotu help
[09:39] <BLUE_ICE> Hendric, what is the compatible model of LX300? LX1050?
[09:40] <RippinEmDaily21> whatup
[09:40] <izm99> Hendric, when I enable "nvidia" driver, computure freezes when starting x (gdm)
[09:40] <cafuego_> a .DAT from VCD is just an mpeg. Name it to .mpg and off you go.
[09:40] <Hendric> BLUE_ICE, not sure.. but a trial and error wouldn't be harsh
[09:40] <xuniluser> what should i download to view video cds
[09:40] <BLUE_ICE> hmmmmmmmmm
[09:40] <Jedrick> C-Keen: how can i play it on my computer?
[09:40] <Hendric> izm99, nvidia-glx? or the nv driver of xserver?? what's your Vcard???
[09:40] <BLUE_ICE> i got really have troubles in sharing printer to a network
[09:40] <No1Viking> Whatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy. I want to look at streaming Windows Media Video but I have no luck. HELP!!
[09:41] <Licker> Question: How do I change a folders access level?
[09:41] <ricardo> someone can recommend me a virtual machine?
[09:41] <C-Keen> Jedrick: use mplayer / totem / whatever.... maybe rename it as cafuego_ said
[09:41] <izm99> Hendric, I followed directions on wiki to apt-get install nvidia-glx.  my card is nvidia ti 4200 128MB agp
[09:41] <Hendric> No1Viking, add the restricted repo.. then apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer
[09:41] <Syruss> Razor-X: shfs is totally different, it means I can have a whole server's FS at /mnt/someserver , which makes everything on it available locally to everything....very useful, for example, I can open up an mp3/video file directly from the server etc
[09:42] <cafuego_> Rename it, double-click it, hey presto.
[09:42] <Syruss> I've used it a lot, trust me, it's the best thing ever :)
[09:42] <Hendric> izm99, did you 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'??
[09:42] <dayzz> cafuego: I can't copy .dat from vcd, why?
[09:42] <aurax> anyone here tried open-xchange?
[09:42] <Ex-Cyber> how can I limit the rate at which synaptic or apt-get downloads packages?
[09:42] <Cavallo> cafuego_: how I should know if Im using correct ATI drivers ?
[09:42] <ssh_rdp> yes the supported minimum frequency for centrino is 600mhz
[09:42] <cafuego_> Syruss: Well actually, if it mapped UIDs properly it would be nice. Until such time it's more of a gimmick.
[09:43] <izm99> Hendric, that just changes the driver to "nvidia" doesn't it?  I've done it before, but I'll do it again.
[09:43] <cafuego_> Cavallo: grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:43] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: Ok, so the windows software just lies :-)
[09:43] <cafuego_> dayzz: incompetence?
[09:43] <jas_> I'm in text only no gui I can't get to a terminal..
[09:43] <jas_> Sorry I'm such a pain in the butt I just don't wanna reinstall
[09:43] <Hendric> izm99, it'll use the nvidia official driver.. rather than the xserver nv
[09:44] <jas_> bah sorry
[09:44] <jas_> cafuego if you said the command could you give it to me again?
[09:44] <Syruss> cafuego_: yeah but you can specify a uid/gid which is good enough as I generally only want to access the shfs mount as a specific user/group
[09:44] <jas_> I lost connection to the internet again
[09:44] <z4k4ri4> Where can I get w32codecs? In which repository
[09:44] <Hendric> izm99, normally you will know if it worked when you see the NVIDIA logo on startup
[09:44] <Madpilot> !tell z4k4ri4 about w32codecs
[09:44] <Syruss> food for thought anyway
[09:44] <jas_> cafuego if you said the command could you give it to me again?
[09:44] <izm99> well, it freezes on startup... nothing gets displayed.  ^^
[09:44] <RippinEmDaily21> sorry
[09:45] <Syruss> there's actually a very small project out there that links the gnome-vfs stuff into the real fs, although it doesn't look 'proper' enough to use :p
[09:45] <RippinEmDaily21> is there any girls on this chat
[09:45] <RippinEmDaily21> or what is this
[09:46] <Hendric> jas_, maybe your card isn't compatible with the nvidia-glx driver... like my old Pine Nvidia TNT2... can't even run with xserver NV driver.. bug i guess
[09:46] <jas_> umm it has nothing to do with the driver..
[09:46] <basvg> 'lo all... what would be the recommended way of switching from hoary to breezy... editting /etc/apt/sources.list and doing a apt-get distupgrade, or download the CD And do a fresh install ?
[09:46] <jas_> Its because my S13gdm got deleted.
[09:47] <Jedrick> C-Keen: i can't rename it coz it's on a cd.. not save on my computer
[09:47] <Hendric> oopss wrong person jas_
[09:47] <Hendric> izm99, , maybe your card isn't compatible with the nvidia-glx driver... like my old Pine Nvidia TNT2... can't even run with xserver NV driver.. bug i guess
[09:47] <jas_> K was gonna say
[09:47] <C-Keen> Jedrick: well then use a vcd player like totem or kaffeine
[09:47] <Jedrick> ok
[09:47] <nnonix> basvg: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:47] <izm99> Hendric, so would i have to get binary from nvidia?
[09:48] <basvg> nnonix: thanks! <hmm, should've looked there in the first place>
[09:48] <aftertaf> izm99:  try the nvidia legacy package
[09:48] <nnonix> basvg: np, have fun.
[09:48] <eckhart> hi
[09:48] <Hendric> izm99, try the legacy package or read release notes... it fully supports your card
[09:49] <Hendric> izm99, as i told you.. there are supported chips that doesn't work at all. like the ones from Pine..
[09:49] <eckhart> how can i recreate an xorg.conf file the same way it is done at ubuntu installation?
[09:49] <Hendric> so i have to use VESA from xserver to make it run
[09:50] <basvg> nnonix: I Was just worried (I just checked the list of pacakages to be upgraded) by the amount of *new* packages that will be installed... Was a bit afraid that I'd end up with, for example, both OO and OO2
[09:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Is there an easy way to make ubuntu auto add my other installation of linux?
[09:50] <jas_> Hey
[09:50] <jas_> Hendric I figured it out!
[09:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> to grub I mean.
[09:50] <jas_> All I had to type was... REady for this!??
[09:50] <melvztechie> hello guys, do we have a driver for Epson LX-300 printer? or any other recommended driver for this printer
[09:50] <jas_> startx
[09:50] <Hendric> wat?
[09:50] <Hendric> lolx
[09:50] <jas_> Yeah..
[09:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> jas_ Nice.
[09:51] <izm99> Hendric, aftertaf, thanks.  I'll look into the legacy package.
[09:51] <jas_> I don't know if it will reload the file
[09:51] <nnonix> basvg: no, it should upgrade 00 to 002
[09:51] <Hendric> you didn't mention you wanna start a GUI
[09:51] <aurax> anyone using some kind of gorupware?
[09:51] <jas_> Yeah I did.
[09:51] <jas_> All the way in the begining..
[09:51] <jas_> :P
[09:51] <Hendric> lolx.. i thought you were trying to list all the commands
[09:51] <basvg> nnonix: I'll just give it a shot. Thanks for the help
[09:51] <synd> Just installed Ubuntu Breezy. What repos should I add?
[09:51] <jas_> No...
[09:51] <Hendric> anyways.. lucky u
[09:51] <jas_> I accidently deleted S13gdm and I couldn't get it get back to GUI
[09:52] <looga> i tried xkill on a program but it won't die. how can i terminate it via cli?
[09:52] <nnonix> basvg: Just make sure you don't stop at dist-upgrade. Follow the entire article and do the ubuntu-base stuff as well.
[09:52] <jas_> Some stupid site said you could and when you rebooted it would come back....
[09:53] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Is there an easy way to make ubuntu auto add my other installation of linux?
[09:53] <basvg> nnonix: *nods* I will. It's good to see a new sources.list (rather than s/hoary/breezy/g )
[09:53] <Jedrick> How can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows
[09:53] <xuniluser> what should i download so totem player can view VCDs
[09:54] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  make sure you have the codes installe, and nautilus should previewx them for you
[09:54] <Jedrick> how will i know if i have the codes install and the nautilus?
[09:55] <dayzz> anyone know how to make repository on cd?
[09:55] <C-Keen> xuniluser: nothing. it does so by default if you chose open dVD/cd?
[09:55] <Hendric> oddly.. in the linuxworldmagazine's website.. there is a big AD about how better windows system servers are, than linux...
[09:55] <padmawan> xuniluser: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[09:56] <johnsie2> is it ok to have programs running when you run apt-get update?
[09:56] <Orborde> So I set up Breezy, and things work, for the most part. But I still get the double-clock-speed/50% CPU at idle problem.
[09:56] <El_Che> johnsie2: yes
[09:56] <johnsie2> good :-)
[09:56] <Orborde> Any idea how to fix them?
[09:57] <Hendric> Orborde, why not try 686 kernel if you are on intel
[09:57] <Orborde> I switched from the AMD64 kernel to the i386 one to go 32-bit when I upgraded from Hoary.
[09:57] <Hendric> ah AMD..
[09:57] <Orborde> Hendric: I'm on AMD64
[09:57] <DjKritical> I honestly thought I'd never see the day I'd be playing games like GTA3 and CS:Source in Linux... Ubuntu rawks :D
[09:57] <jhank> hi guys - just wondering if there is a time plan, when breezy is released?
[09:58] <Orborde> Hendric: I then flipped on over to the K7 kernel, because it seemed more in line with my system.
[09:58] <DjKritical> jhank, breezy is already out!
[09:58] <jhank> aaaaah thanks
[09:58] <Hendric> Orborde, it think 386 would be better..
[09:58] <Jedrick> How can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows
[09:58] <DjKritical> Jedrick, Media Player plugin for FireFox
[09:58] <johnsie2> u played GTA3 on linux?
[09:58] <johnsie2> how?
[09:58] <Jedrick> DjKritical: where can i get that?
[09:58] <DjKritical> johnsie: cedega!
[09:59] <jhank> just RC isnt it?
[09:59] <Orborde> The no_timer_check thing doesn't appear to work. noapic/nolapic kills the 50%/double-clock problem, but it renders eth0 nonfunctional.
[09:59] <Hendric> Orborde,  haven't you tried the kernel for 64's??? its a different ISO
[09:59] <looga> where's the conventional/usual place to put a folder containing a program we got from the internet?
[09:59] <DjKritical> johnsie2, it costs money... but if you want a free version (like me) go get cvscedega
[09:59] <johnsie2> i already have wine... how did you install cedgea?
[09:59] <erick> does ubuntu support mp3 converter that can be used on cellphones
[09:59] <looga> i don't want to clutter home/looga directory
[10:00] <jhank> i mean the final release
[10:00] <Orborde> Hendric: I tried the AMD64 distro, but realized that nothing is actually compiled for 64-bit yet, such as Flash and things. And since I'm not running anything computationally intensive, I switched to 32-bit.
[10:00] <Hendric> i got cedega from a friend... + point2play
[10:00] <johnsie2> how did you get cvscedgea? is it in the repositiory?
[10:00] <padmawan> jhank: breezy official release is oct 13th
[10:01] <DjKritical> johnsie2: download the cvscedega script, then run through it
[10:01] <jhank> i know, i asked if there is a time set...
[10:01] <aftertaf> !ops
[10:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[10:01] <melvztechie> were can we get the script? of cvscedega
[10:01] <Orborde> jhank: Just download the RC now and update as it comes.
[10:01] <grigora> does anyone have experience install OO2 on Hoary? Should I (not) upgrade it? I need Math and it's only available in OO2. thanks for any info!
[10:01] <looga> when you guys get a program from the Net, where do you put the folder?
[10:02] <talios> padmawan, should do an October fools - release it on the 12th as Apple Unbuntu/X - Apples "one more thing" ;p
[10:02] <grigora> looga: if it's source code, usually /usr/local/src
[10:02] <talios> get rid of BSD under OS/X ;p
[10:02] <Orborde> grigora: Can you wait until a shiny Breezy upgrade? Or you could just upgrade to Breezy now, I *think*.
[10:02] <jas_> Hey
[10:02] <delmonico> hmmm I can't ping localhost/127.0.0.1, but I can ping my IP what could be the trouble here?
[10:02] <DjKritical> looda: that question makes no sense.... you should follow the install instructions
[10:02] <jas_> Can I get the command to get the nvidia drivers to work on here again.
[10:02] <kab00m> hola
[10:02] <grigora> Orborde: I'd rather not do a whole distribution update tonight
[10:02] <DjKritical> looda: you should also avoid downloading programs and use Synaptic
[10:02] <kab00m> how can i override the path settings which are set in the gdm.conf locally? with that i mean as regular user?
[10:03] <jas_> cafuego you gave it to me earlier what was it again?
[10:03] <DjKritical> jas_, I think nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:03] <jas_> Sorry to be such a pain
[10:03] <Orborde> grigora: You might be able to get it from the Breezy repos, then.
[10:03] <Hendric> looga, easy... /home/hendric -> installers, documents, videos, pictures, music, unpacked
[10:03] <grigora> Orborde: can I just upgrade OO or is it a pretty big can of worms in itself?
[10:03] <Orborde> grigora: It's there; the question is whether you can get it to work.
[10:03] <looga> grigora: what if it's NOT source code, where do you put the program?
[10:03] <Crys_Ubu_PC> /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda  will run the grub installation from linux, causing it to check my drives for usable OS installations, right>
[10:03] <Crys_Ubu_PC> ?
[10:03] <grigora> looga: what is it? binary?
[10:03] <Orborde> grigora: Get the Breezy repositories into Synaptic and install/upgrade to OO2.
[10:04] <jas_> Okay then how do I restart x?
[10:04] <DjKritical> jas_, ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:04] <Orborde> jas_: Control+Alt+Backspace, I think?
[10:04] <Hendric> jas_, ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:04] <grigora> Orborde: I can get it from Universe, I am just not sure if it'll work painlessly
[10:04] <Crys_Ubu_PC> ctrl+alt+backspace.
[10:04] <DjKritical> Everyone jumps on the easy question =)
[10:04] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I'm a little slow I guess.
[10:04] <johnsie2> should I expect a tonne of updates tomorrow or has this been phased?
[10:04] <Orborde> grigora: Only way to find out is to try it, I guess.
[10:04] <Hendric> wow too helpful
[10:04] <looga> DjKritical: i got a tar.gz file that decompresses into a folder containing a self-contained java program. It can be placed anywhere.
[10:04] <DjKritical> I was the fastest!
[10:04] <AES_24_96> I dont have a floppy and I cant boot off the ubuntu disk to install, I can boot fine off of a cd that I drop system disk files on
[10:04] <AES_24_96> but that makes it dos
[10:04] <looga> grigora: it's a java program
[10:04] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I don't know much but the easy stuff.
[10:04] <atripathi> goodafternoon everyone and wishing you all a very happy DurgaPuja
[10:04] <Hendric> DjKritical, i'm on P1 so excuse me hehehe
[10:04] <DjKritical> looga: if it's a self contained java program put it in your home directory
[10:05] <looga> DjKritical: is that what you'd do? I don't want to clutter my home directory. I could add a "shortcut" to my menu via menu-editor.
[10:05] <jhank> i know... but i just want download the final.... so is there a time set when the new cd image is to be released?
[10:05] <jas_> Thanks everyone that helped
[10:05] <jas_> HOpefully I won't be back in asking anymore nooby question haha
[10:05] <grigora> Orborde: I guess, the reason I am a little worried is that it wants to upgrade glibc and gcc as well (dependencies) ... I think I should just pass and wait for a "shiny Breezy upgrade"
[10:05] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Did you say that you can boot from cd, just not the ubuntu cd?
[10:05] <jas_> I guess everyone has to start somewhere
[10:06] <grigora> looga: you can put it in /usr/local/bin
[10:06] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC yes
[10:06] <Orborde> grigora: That is what I'd recommend, if it can wait. Sorry.
[10:06] <starscalling> nn irc world c ya another day [amsg] 
[10:06] <DjKritical> looga, is it just a .jar file?... I'd keep it in my /home/user directory because it's nothing to do with linux....
[10:06] <Crys_Ubu_PC> That's some wierd stuff, man. What kind of cpu?
[10:06] <AES_24_96> p4 2.4
[10:06] <grigora> Orborde: no problem, thanks
[10:06] <omer> Hello
[10:06] <AES_24_96> on asus p4t-e
[10:07] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Not too bad. You get a pre-built?
[10:07] <Hendric> looga, wat exactly you want to do with the file?? is it an executable that you will be running every now and then??
[10:07] <omer> I want to install ubuntu on my lap-top. I have there win-98
[10:07] <Skid> what's the development channel for ubuntu?
[10:07] <AES_24_96> no
[10:07] <AES_24_96> we have to build our own at my studio, or we get clicks and pops
[10:07] <Trashcan> #ubuntu-devel
[10:07] <omer> I want to do installation from th HD.
[10:07] <Skid> ta
[10:07] <atripathi> cd #ubuntu-devel
[10:07] <johnsie2> hi omer what do you need help with?
[10:07] <Trashcan> why does glxgears run fast and fine for about 5 seconds, then it drops to about 3fps
[10:07] <Crys_Ubu_PC> So do ou have a windows install disk?
[10:07] <atripathi> oops! sorry!
[10:08] <omer> I know which files to use. I just don't know how to work with msdos.sys
[10:08] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC yes, it boots off of that fine too
[10:08] <AES_24_96> Im going to try dual boot Im new to linnux
[10:08] <looga> Hendric: i want to put that folder in some place that is a default place for stuff like that. I won't have to dig for it, because I'll be adding the foo.sh file to menu-editor.
[10:08] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Are you sure you have a good install disk? Have you tried fixing it with bittorent?
[10:08] <looga> Hendric: but i don't want to put stuff in my home folder that I won't be needing immediate access to.
[10:09] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC how do I fix it with biottorrent? and if I burn another one should I make it multisession?
[10:09] <looga> i will be running the file every now and then, but  via the  menu, if i can add it with menu-edtior
[10:09] <Crys_Ubu_PC> No, I don't think they boot correctly if you burn multisession. Did you do that with the first one?
[10:09] <apokryphos> aftertaf: good to note the reason, for the record, when !opsin' -- for other ops that may not know =)
[10:10] <AES_24_96> I did iso with the first one
[10:10] <AES_24_96> maybe nero is not good for this?
[10:10] <Trashcan> !opsin
[10:10] <ubotu> Trashcan: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:11] <Crys_Ubu_PC> You get the .torrent file, and open it. Then when your client asks you where to save it, save over the old iso. It should just fix it.
[10:11] <Trashcan> lol
[10:11] <apokryphos> Trashcan: investigate in /msg
[10:11] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I use alchohol, but nero should work. I think linux is best, because there are no options to screw up.
[10:12] <looga> grigora, put the entire folder into /usr/local/bin?
[10:12] <topyli> AES_24_96: nero should burn the image if you tell it to burn the image, don't do a "data cd". i don't know the specifics because i've never even seen nero. this is just what i've heard
[10:12] <Madpilot> Crys_Ubu_PC: have you seen this for ISO burning information? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:12] <Crys_Ubu_PC> You should check the md5sum on your iso, and if it doesn't check out, then use the bittorent fix on a copy of it.
[10:13] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC this is where I grabbed the file http://www.ubuntu.com/download 5.04 is that not a good one?
[10:14] <Hendric> GnoSamba made my life easier with sharing.. not on the repos thou....
[10:14] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, I almost just asked you what arch you have, till I remembered you have a p4.
[10:14] <Trashcan> lol @ cat /bin/bash
[10:15] <Trashcan> it ruins the terminal
[10:15] <AES_24_96> where do I find this .torrent thing?
[10:15] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
[10:15] <Hendric> Trashcan, better file a bug report... lolx
[10:15] <Trashcan> :p
[10:15] <signius> You just choose burn image then point it to the iso image then click burn
[10:15] <signius> simple
[10:15] <No1Viking> Whatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy. I want to look at streaming Windows Media Video but I have no luck. HELP!!
[10:16] <Crys_Ubu_PC> That is the link to the torrent. Use your torrent client to open it, and save over a copy of the iso.
[10:16] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Do you know how to use BitTorrent?
[10:16] <Hendric> No1Viking, i told you to add the restricted repos.. apt-get mplayer and the mozilla plugin
[10:16] <Orborde> No1Viking: Have you done so?
[10:16] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC ok maybe Im screwing something fundamental up, the download I got was a rar, I unzipped it into a directory (im on xp) and then dragged and dropped it into a nero iso
[10:16] <dbug> gstreamer is a gnome pack isn't ?
[10:17] <Crys_Ubu_PC> A rar?
[10:17] <AES_24_96> not too good on bitorrent
[10:17] <AES_24_96> yeah a rar
[10:17] <No1Viking> Hendric, Orborde, Ive done that
[10:17] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Apparently not. Do you have BitTorrent installed somewhere?
[10:17] <AES_24_96> it was straight from ubuntu I thought it would be best
[10:17] <AES_24_96> I dont think I have bit torrent
[10:17] <Hendric> No1Viking, did mplayer and the plugin installed successfully??
[10:17] <Orborde> No1Viking: Okay. Well, that's the extent of my helping ability.
[10:17] <No1Viking> Hendric, Yes
[10:17] <signius> once you uncompressed the .rar file was it an .iso ?
[10:17] <Admiral_Snyder> good morning, friends
[10:17] <Orborde> AES_24_96: You might want to get that. Hang on.
[10:17] <looga> anybody here use flickr?
[10:18] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: if you're running Ubuntu, you have a BT client built in..
[10:18] <No1Viking> Thanks anyway Orborde
[10:18] <AES_24_96> once I decompresse3d it it dropped as folders
[10:18] <Hendric> No1Viking, try yahooligans.yahoo.com if you can view video streams...
[10:18] <phiqtion> how can i add a image to my grub?
[10:18] <signius> what do you mean you dragged it and dropped
[10:18] <Orborde> Madpilot: He's on XP.
[10:18] <Hendric> No1Viking, oh.. apt-get install w32codecs too...
[10:18] <johnsie2> lol
[10:18] <Admiral_Snyder> does one of you have an idea, where i could find an irc channel about VoIP?
[10:18] <Orborde> Hendric: Naw, that CAN'T be important....
[10:18] <signius> what version of nero are you using ?
[10:18] <apokryphos> w32codecs isn't in the repositories at all anymore
[10:18] <atripathi> heh just found that nautilus can write CDs.....try out peeps. Its really cool. Just see menu options in your file manager(i hope is nautilus)
[10:18] <Madpilot> Orborde: heh, my bad... I shouldn't just half-follow this channel, it moves too fast
[10:18] <AES_24_96> I unzipped (unrared) the ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso into a windows directory
[10:18] <Hendric> well... forget it.. hehee
[10:19] <AES_24_96> oh oh
[10:19] <AES_24_96> hold on Im an idiot
[10:19] <johnsie2> !w32codecs
[10:19] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:19] <phiqtion> how can i add a image to my grub? thank you..
[10:19] <Crys_Ubu_PC> /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda  is gonna reinstall grub, right?
[10:19] <johnsie2> :-)
[10:19] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:19] <Orborde> Madpilot: Yeah....
[10:19] <AES_24_96> ok guys I am sorry for wasting your time, I am a TOTAL maroon!!!!!
[10:19] <Hendric> No1Viking, try viewing a video stream and tell me the error...
[10:19] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Do you have it solved?
[10:19] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Did you burn the rar onto the disc instead of the iso?
[10:19] <atripathi> phiq....I will use webmin for that
[10:19] <AES_24_96> no but it wasnt a rar
[10:19] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Do you have a 650MB .iso file?
[10:19] <AES_24_96> LOL
[10:20] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Oh. it was an iso file?
[10:20] <AES_24_96> I have my winrar set to open isos, so it had a rar icon and I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT THE EXTENSION !!!!!
[10:20] <signius> AES people are trying to help you but you arent answering any of the questions people are asking you
[10:20] <AES_24_96> sorry guys :(
[10:20] <Crys_Ubu_PC> And you copied the files onto the hard drive, then burned a data disk.
[10:20] <Orborde> AES_24_96: We're a little frightened here, because you're making a lot of noise and sounding as if you're going in the wrong direction.
[10:20] <signius> so its hard to help when you got be a fucking mind reader
[10:20] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Okay, so you got the ISO?
[10:20] <AES_24_96> one sec
[10:20] <AES_24_96> yuo
[10:20] <AES_24_96> yup
[10:20] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Have you verified that the ISO is intact?
[10:20] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: WinRAR has some odd ideas about what it should open - it screws with Java jar files too
[10:21] <Orborde> Madpilot: Well, jar files are usually just zip archives or something, aren't they?
[10:21] <AES_24_96> how do I verify that the iso is intact...scratch that let me burn it and reboot and we will see
[10:21] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Good luck with that then. We'll see you on the other side if it worked.
[10:21] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96,  bad Idea.
[10:21] <AES_24_96> yes Im very excited
[10:21] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Are you using install or live?
[10:21] <Madpilot> Orborde: something like that, but they can/should run as the jar file - WinRAR shouldn't usually be touching them
[10:21] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Yeah, you might want to hang on.
[10:21] <signius> And still he goes off not answering anything at all anyone asked him
[10:21] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, You better check that disk, or you could run into problems.
[10:21] <AES_24_96> my main hardware supplier is SCREAMING for me to run this ardour thing, but that I need to put linnuxz to try
[10:22] <AES_24_96> install
[10:22] <taotime> can lots of beer and linux go together
[10:22] <aftertaf> back.... compiling e17 :)
[10:22] <Danoman> is 5.10 a big upgrade related to 5.04?
[10:22] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Beer and linux were meant for each other!!!!
[10:22] <taotime> sorry can lots of beer and lots of linux go together
[10:22] <AES_24_96> ok how do I verify that this iso is ok?
[10:22] <signius> Do you know how to veriry md5 sums in Windows XP ?
[10:22] <AES_24_96> no
[10:23] <sambrista> i think you need a program
[10:23] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: see the wiki URL I gave you earlier, it's got info on verifying md5 in XP
[10:23] <johnsie2> tes taotime
[10:23] <taotime> cool crys ubu pc
[10:23] <sambrista> but i don't know which oen
[10:23] <signius> I use md5sum.exe in a dos promt on xp
[10:23] <phiqtion> how can i add a image to my grub? thank you..
[10:23] <Orborde> Madpilot: What was that URL?
[10:23] <Hendric> i've had beers on my ref when i started linux 2weeks ago... and its bugless....
[10:23] <taotime> cool hendric
[10:23] <taotime> way to go
[10:23] <taotime> beer and linux
[10:23] <Orborde> phiqtion: sudo update-grub tends to do wonders if it's already in /boot
[10:23] <taotime> hey has anybody done  a search on linux and beer together
[10:23] <Madpilot> Orborde & AES_24_96: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:24] <AES_24_96> reading
[10:24] <Jedrick> how to uninstall some installd programs on your computer using terminal?
[10:24] <Crys_Ubu_PC> wait, is that a program? I thought you were talking about hacking drunk.
[10:24] <aftertaf> Danoman:  it's a new release
[10:24] <Hendric> LOL i did... and found some funny sites about it...
[10:24] <taotime> na i am talking about hacking and not hacking drunk
[10:24] <woodwizzle> if opengl acceleration is working fine, which is probably the better mplayer option? -vo gl2 or -vo xv ?
[10:24] <Orborde> Madpilot: There's nothing on there about md5 that I can see.
[10:25] <Crys_Ubu_PC> taotime, Sorry. I meant that drinking and hacking go together.
[10:25] <starscalling> tell starscalling about glib
[10:25] <starscalling> !tell starscalling about glib
[10:25] <Orborde> Madpilot: Nothing more specific than "verify the archive"
[10:25] <Hendric> er.. me too
[10:26] <signius> No it doesnt tell you how to check the iso it just says verify the iso and assumes you know how to do it
[10:26] <taotime> crus : u r right
[10:26] <Jedrick> how to uninstall some installd programs on your computer using terminal?
[10:26] <sambrista> hi everybody, I'm thinking about installing ubuntu linux in my computer. The fact is that i have already installed a linux distribution (guadalinex, based in debian) and I want to share the /home/my user/ directory. Will there be any problems about permissions or program configuration files conflicts?
[10:26] <Madpilot> Orborde: there's a link to an XP utility that'll verify md5sums
[10:26] <signius> you need to get md5sum.exe and drop into \windows\system32
[10:26] <taotime> i havent done any hacking though i have finished a good part of my drinking share
[10:26] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, You should check out hjsplit. It's a file splitting program for windows. makes it able to send large files in batch emails. Also has a md5sum tool so that you can check the file afterwards.
[10:26] <signius> once you done that you run it giving it the location and full file name of the iso you want to veriry
[10:26] <sambrista> apt-get remove packagename and the program will be removed, you need to be root to do it
[10:26] <Hendric> !realplayer
[10:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:27] <AES_24_96> http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[10:27] <signius> this will give you a really long alpahnumeric
[10:27] <AES_24_96> that thing?
[10:27] <Jedrick> ok thnx
[10:27] <Orborde> Madpilot: ...where? I can't find it. maybe I'm dumb.
[10:27] <Danoman> one question.. will they update for example gnome in 5.10 tree over time.. or do i have to wait for next release again for the update of gnome? (i know that gnome i 5.10 is the newest, but it isnt in maybe 4 month..)
[10:27] <signius> you check that against the one given to you from the same place you downloaded the iso from
[10:27] <taotime> no man it's been a week since i installed ubuntu and i still cannot get realplayer working
[10:27] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Okay, once more. /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda is gonna reinstall grub fresh, right?!
[10:27] <Hendric> obotu: tell No1Viking  about realplayer
[10:27] <signius> if it doesnt match 100% you need to re-download the iso as it is screwed someone
[10:27] <phiqtion> orborde: can i just throw the file there? or do i need to put the extracted one?
[10:27] <taotime> synaptics is great but i didn't help me with either installing fluxbox or realplayer
[10:27] <signius> if it matches perfect then move on to the next stage of buring the iso to cd
[10:28] <Madpilot> Orborde: there's a like that goes here: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[10:28] <Madpilot> *link, even
[10:28] <sambrista> hi everybody, I'm thinking about installing ubuntu linux in my computer. The fact is that i have already installed a linux distribution (guadalinex, based in debian) and I want to share the /home/my user/ directory. Will there be any problems about permissions or program configuration files conflicts?
[10:28] <AES_24_96> ok one sec
[10:28] <Hendric> taotime, i guess the beer caused it
[10:28] <signius> there is 2 ways to burn the iso's with nero depending on what version you have
[10:28] <Orborde> phiqtion: How did you install the kernel image thingy?
[10:28] <signius> both are simple
[10:28] <taotime> sambrista :  dont
[10:28] <aftertaf> sambrista:  make sure users have same uid
[10:28] <sambrista> ok thanks!
[10:28] <taotime> sambrista :  dont try it have done it before and the result is messy.
[10:29] <Madpilot> later, all. need sleep.
[10:29] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Or else you could find a version of alchohol and use that. it is great for isos.
[10:29] <Orborde> phiqtion: Are you trying to get it to recognize a kernel image you've dropped into the appropriate directory (which may not be /boot; I don't know exactly where they go) ?
[10:29] <taotime> hey what is
[10:29] <taotime> never mind
[10:30] <taotime> look if i don't know the wc program from kernighan and ritchie should i quit programming
[10:30] <taotime> or should i never bother trying
[10:30] <Jedrick> i install 3dchess, how can i play the game? it's not in the games list
[10:30] <sambrista> just type 3dchess in a terminal, it should work
[10:30] <taotime> jedrick : go to terminal and type 3dchess
[10:31] <taotime> oh oh
[10:31] <Hendric> OO's website is as slow as the program on a lesser than 128MB ram pc
[10:31] <sambrista> well, i'm leaving, bye everybody
[10:31] <sambrista> thanks
[10:31] <taotime> sambrista : 3dchess aint that much more fun AFAIK
[10:31] <Jedrick> tahorg:  i did, but it says no command
[10:31] <johnsie2> or else it should be in the file system /usr/games
[10:31] <phiqtion> Orborde, i just dropped the xpw in /boot/grub
[10:31] <Orborde> phiqtion: xpw?
[10:32] <Orborde> phiqtion: What is an xpw?
[10:32] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Help me with my grub, someone.
[10:32] <Jedrick> i mean taotime
[10:32] <Orborde> phiqtion: Can you tell me what you're doing and what you did so far, beginning to end?
[10:32] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: I'm no expert, but what do you need?
[10:32] <AES_24_96> Im screwing up
[10:32] <BLUE_ICE> Hendric,  preng unsaon pag share nato ang printer naka print nako
[10:32] <taotime> Jedrick : type cd /usr/bin/games/
[10:32] <sorush20> anyone here part of the freedom league ? Does anyone here live in the Uk, and do they know of a good site that give advise on what to prepare for in case of a flood disaster etc? Why woun't universities use open source?
[10:32] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I just need a verification before I input this command.
[10:32] <Jedrick> ok
[10:33] <AES_24_96> I ran md5sums.exe and it came back with a string
[10:33] <Crys_Ubu_PC> /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda will re-install my grub, right?
[10:33] <signius> yes thats correct
[10:33] <AES_24_96> what do I check the string against?
[10:33] <Orborde> sorush20: Pretty varied set of questions, isn't that?
[10:33] <sorush20> any one here have the same problem with firefox it will not update the extensions.?
[10:33] <Hendric> BLUE_ICE, preng la nimo gitanaw tong sites nga hatag nako?? mao to ang full instructions
[10:33] <signius> where youd ownlaoded the file from is a file xalled md5sum
[10:33] <sorush20> Orborde: just asking;-)
[10:33] <signius> its ussually a text file
[10:33] <taotime> sorush20 : it been a week i m trying to but won't update extensions
[10:33] <AES_24_96> ok
[10:33] <johnsie2> no my firefox disappears on me all the time
[10:33] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, There should be a md5sum on the site you got the iso from./
[10:34] <signius> you just have to compare the result of your mdsum string against that of the text file and make sure they match perfect
[10:34] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: I'm cruising the manual.
[10:34] <sorush20> taotime: you checked out the bugs for the problem on the internet? its just that I don';t know what to describe it as?
[10:34] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: Point him to the MD5 list file on the Ubuntu servers.
[10:34] <phiqtion> Orborde, i want my grub to look like this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29962
[10:34] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Yes, sir.
[10:34] <AES_24_96> ok Im checking now
[10:35] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Here it is. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[10:35] <AES_24_96> they match
[10:35] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Woot! Burn it, son.
[10:35] <AES_24_96> ok so in nero do I just choose new iso?
[10:36] <sorush20> is there any p2p program with A.I. where by it would search and download for the latest movies and vids on the p2p networks and find your faves of music, download at night and view when ever you are up?
[10:36] <taotime> sorush20 :  i tried three different things :  let firefox do it, tried to install realplayer myself and tried to reinstall rhythmbox
[10:36] <Orborde> phiqtion: Holy cow...that's a big out of my range. So you want a grub splash image, and you're not having any trouble with the kernel images themselves?
[10:36] <signius> what version you using
[10:36] <Crys_Ubu_PC> That doesn't sound right. what version are you using?
[10:36] <AES_24_96> 6
[10:36] <AES_24_96> choose "no multisession" right?
[10:36] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: My inexpert advice is yes, that will do the trick. (grub-install)
[10:37] <signius> i think under 6 you choose file then image file
[10:37] <signius> then you navigate to the iso image
[10:37] <signius> then you click burn
[10:37] <sorush20> taotime: what do you mean installed realyplayer and rhythmox, I don't ask anything about those.. ?
[10:37] <phiqtion> Orborde, nope
[10:37] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Well, worst case, I need to download and burn the grub boot cd, which I should really have around anyway.
[10:37] <AES_24_96> ok its burning
[10:37] <BLUE_ICE> what is Clock Skew Detected?
[10:38] <AES_24_96> now I made a separate partition for linnux on my drive
[10:38] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Make sure you're burning the ISO as an image, not onto a big data disc. My friend did that to me by accident once. Couldn't figure out why the darn things wouldn't boot...
[10:38] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Good luck, man.
[10:38] <Hendric> Crys_Ubu_PC, why not use the install CD then recover?
[10:38] <AES_24_96> I dont need to run partition commander and tell it I want another os do I ?
[10:38] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: What happened to the old grub setup?
[10:38] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I need to run it again so it will add DamSmallLinux.
[10:39] <phiqtion> if something goes wrong with my grub, what command do i have to overwrite it? or will putting the ubuntu cd have some advanced script to write grub again?
[10:39] <signius> no ubuntu will setup a boot loader
[10:39] <Orborde> AES_24_96: You just need to size down your windows partition from commander.
[10:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hendric, That could work. If I screw it up, i'll try it.
[10:40] <AES_24_96> how much space do I need? I will be reading the audio files off of separate disks, but how much do I need for the system
[10:40] <kairu0> hi all
[10:40] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Then use the partition EDITOR in Ubuntu to create a swap partition and system partition from the empty space. I recommend a separate home partition, too.
[10:40] <phiqtion> if something goes wrong with my grub, what command do i have to overwrite it? or will putting the ubuntu cd have some advanced script to write grub again?
[10:40] <Orborde> AES_24_96: I'd say about 5GB for the Ubuntu desktop.
[10:40] <Hendric> Crys_Ubu_PC, gud luck then
[10:40] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Minimum, that is.
[10:40] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, If you are a primarily Windows user, then 5 or 10 gig is plenty.
[10:40] <AES_24_96> 5 gigs, then how much for the swap?
[10:41] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Mine is 1.5GB, but that's kind of biggish.
[10:41] <Hendric> its my 2nd ubuntu weeksarry on friday... yipey!! more beer plS!!!
[10:41] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, I use a gig or .75 gig.
[10:41] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Wait...you're going to be ripping audio?
[10:41] <AES_24_96> no Im supposed to test some app called ardour
[10:41] <AES_24_96> Ill be testing it as a mixer and recorder
[10:42] <Orborde> AES_24_96: The 5GB figure is for JUST THE INSTALL, not anything else. You'll probably want at least 10GB.
[10:42] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Maybe more.
[10:42] <woodwizzle> is there a way to check which XF86Config or xorg.conf file your x11 server is using?
[10:42] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Hey, just so as to avoid a potential problem, your windows partition...NTFS or FAT32?
[10:42] <Orborde> AES_24_96: How big is your hard drive, and how much space do you have free in Windows?
[10:42] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: Why do you ask?
[10:42] <AES_24_96> the system drive is 40 gigs
[10:42] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Why do I ask what again?
[10:43] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Is there another drive or something? So it's one single 40GB hard drive? How much space is free on it?
[10:43] <taotime> sorush20 :  no i meant i couldn't do it either
[10:43] <AES_24_96> its partitioned into one 10.7 for system ,  one 19 gig for system storgae and 6.82 gigs for linnux
[10:43] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: Why are you asking which filesystem it's on?
[10:43] <Hendric> one cool question... how do i change the GNOME feet icon on the MENU.. and make it a START button similar to windowz
[10:43] <Orborde> Hendric: Yes.
[10:44] <Hendric> how do i change the GNOME feet icon on the MENU.. and make it a START button similar to windowz?
[10:44] <AES_24_96> I got maybe 3 gigs free betwen the twop other partitions
[10:44] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Because, he's obviously new to this, and if it's NTFS grub won't boot it, right?
[10:44] <AES_24_96> the winxp suystem partition is ntfs, the storage partition is fat32 and the linnux partition is fat32
[10:44] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Okay, 6.82GB for Linux, you said? That should be okay-ish. If you run out of space come back and we'll help you.
[10:45] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: GRUB can boot an NTFS-based Windows system. I know; this machine I'm on is a dual-booter.
[10:45] <AES_24_96> now I have one harddisk full of audio files to test with thats on fat 32, is fat 32 ok for linnuix? I can copy that drive to antohter if need be
[10:45] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Since when? I've always been told no.
[10:46] <Orborde> AES_24_96: FAT32 is quite all right with Linux. NTFS is the one that gives it a little trouble.
[10:46] <AES_24_96> ok, np
[10:46] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: I dunno. I've been using this one for a month.
[10:46] <AES_24_96> looks like I have a few projects on fat32 drives
[10:46] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Well, you are either a big exception, or my limited knowledge needs to be revised. I'll do some reading.
[10:46] <AES_24_96> alright disk is burned wish me luck!!!!
[10:46] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Good luck!
[10:47] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Good luck. See you in a bit, we hope.
[10:47] <Hendric> gud luck!
[10:47] <AES_24_96> where do I get irc for ubuntu?
[10:47] <Crys_Ubu_PC> It will come with it installed.
[10:47] <Hendric> can anyone tell me how to change d gnome feet icon on the launcher menu??\
[10:47] <AES_24_96> AWESOME!!
[10:47] <rob_> AES_24_96, here
[10:47] <AES_24_96> ok bbiab
[10:47] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: Now, I'm pretty sure that booting Linux OFF an NTFS partition is currently either impossible or just a Really Bad Idea....
[10:47] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hendric, What is d gnome feet?
[10:48] <DjKritical> does anyone know the name of the pakage for the kernal source?
[10:48] <rob_> Orborde, or just a case of why bother?
[10:48] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, I'd say impossible.
[10:48] <Orborde> rob_: Yeah, that too.
[10:48] <Hendric> oh.. the ubuntu icon... on breezy.. how do i change it to something like a wider icon with text
[10:48] <rob_> !kernel-source
[10:48] <ubotu> rob_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:48] <rob_> !info kernel-source
[10:48] <Orborde> rob_: Maybe you have a fetish for proprietary filesystems?
[10:48] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hendric, Oh, no clue. I'm on Hoary anyways.
[10:48] <crimsun> DjKritical: linux-source-2.6.10 (Hoary), linux-source-2.6.12 (Breezy)
[10:49] <DjKritical> thanks!
[10:49] <Adross> whats the path for the default login sound of ubuntu?
[10:49] <rob_> !info kernel-source-2.6.11
[10:49] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Why would you want to do that, anyways?
[10:49] <Hendric> in hoary... the feet icon you click like the start menu on windows.. how do you change that?
[10:49] <Orborde> Hendric: SOMEONE clearly knows how to do it, since it changeed between Hoary and Breezy....
[10:49] <rob_> heh, I'm looking at that package right now :)
[10:49] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hendric, Why would you want to do that, anyways?
[10:49] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: Do what? Boot Linux off NTFS? I have no idea. Because you would be worshipped by your peers?
[10:49] <Hendric> Orborde, yeah.. who could that be?
[10:49] <crimsun> Adross: /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[10:49] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Sorry, wrong user.
[10:49] <Adross> crimsun: thanks
[10:50] <Ng> Orborde: you'd be largely ignored I suspect ;)
[10:50] <Hendric> i want to change it to something that suits me.. like "<icon> Hendric Rocks!"
[10:50] <Hendric> isn't that cool?
[10:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Audigy rocks!!!!!
[10:50] <Orborde> Ng: Well, pfft.
[10:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Gimp Rocks!!!
[10:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I love linux software!
[10:50] <Orborde> Ng: Windows being unable to read any standard Linux filesystem can be a blessing, anyway.
[10:51] <Adross> Crys_Ubu_PC: gimp does indeed roxors my boxors
[10:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I hope AES makes it.
[10:51] <taotime> hey anybody know i installed dillo but it doesn't show up on any menus
[10:51] <Ng> Orborde: there are applications/drivers for Windows that will let you read ext2/ext3
[10:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> taotime It does that alot. You should log out and back in and see if that fixes it.
[10:51] <Orborde> Ng: Yes, though it doesn't come standard. And again, why do you want the Virus Trap capable of fiddling your other OSes?
[10:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Ng, You need to name one, and I want it.
[10:51] <Hendric> changing gnome icon on the launcher... anyone?????
[10:52] <Ng> Crys_Ubu_PC: the last one I used was gnome2fs, but there may be better ones since then. I expect if you search google for "windows ext3" you will find others :)
[10:52] <taotime> crys_ubu_pc : i logged out restarted the computer today and was hoping to see it but i couldn't anyways, i m from slackware so i dont mind the terminal line just a question though
[10:52] <Orborde> Hendric: Internet!
[10:52] <Dejavu> hey can anyone tell me how to get that cool icon bar at the bottom ?
[10:52] <Hendric> Orborde, OMG forgot that...
[10:52] <Dejavu> the one that Mac OSX has
[10:52] <Ng> Hendric: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png on breezy, no idea on hoary, I don't have any left
[10:53] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hendric, No clue, but here is a clue. Check how the theme people do it.
[10:53] <Orborde> Ng: I think it'd be a better idea to go find the responsible conf file.
[10:53] <Hendric> i'm trying to create ubundows.. wow cool!!!
[10:54] <Dejavu> hey can anyone tell me how to get that cool icon bar at the bottom ? the one that looks like Mac Os-X  ??
[10:54] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hendric, Good luck. In that case you should make an installable gnome theme that looks like windows.
[10:54] <Ng> Orborde: is there one? that's just part of an icon theme afaics
[10:54] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Dejavu, It is a
[10:54] <Orborde> Dejavu: No, but on Ubuntu, you CAN easily drag icons onto the top panel...
[10:55] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: Ever heard of XPde?
[10:55] <Yetr2> Crys_Ubu_PC, it's already been done for gnome, kde, and about 5 other popular WMs
[10:55] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Dejavu, It is a panel with a transparent backgroun and launchers.
[10:55] <Hendric> Crys_Ubu_PC, hopefully... my internet shop is with ubuntu... customers big problem: how can i begin? where's the START menu???
[10:55] <Orborde> Ng: Well, what determines the theme?
[10:55] <Dejavu> Crys_Ubu_PC, yeah .. thats the one i wanna know abt !
[10:55] <Dejavu> Orborde, yeah i know that .. i was asking abt another bar
[10:55] <Hendric> argh... i better ad START beside the feet icon and hopefully create an exact look
[10:56] <Dejavu> Crys_Ubu_PC, know the name for that ?
[10:56] <dao> Dejavu, starerbar from gdesklets
[10:56] <Orborde> Dejavu: I believe there is some easy way to create a new panel...hang on and I'll fiddle...
[10:56] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Dejavu, play around with the panels you allready have. Get familiar, and you'll figurwe it out.
[10:56] <taotime> anyone here installed fluxbox instead of the default
[10:56] <dao> Dejavu, starterbar
[10:56] <Ng> Orborde: other than the gui theme selector I have no idea. I tend not to use my time replacing menu logos ;)
[10:56] <Hendric> taotime, i did... apt-get install fluxbox
[10:56] <basvg> bah!
[10:56] <Crys_Ubu_PC> taotime, i did, but configuring it was too much for me.
[10:57] <basvg> I just did the update from breezy to hoary and I end up with both OO and OO2 :-(
[10:57] <basvg> damned
[10:57] <Dejavu> StarterBar .. humm .. that might be the one :D !!
[10:57] <Ng> basvg: so remove the one you don't want :)
[10:57] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, I have never ever heard of XPde
[10:57] <RedGhost> all my updates just failed saying error cannot find E:\ or something
[10:57] <RedGhost> never had that b4
[10:57] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: http://www.xpde.com/
[10:57] <SGershon> Damn, me back again. Same problem, same despair.
[10:57] <basvg> Ng: yeah I will.. just hoped the update would take care of that as was suggested here earlier today ;)
[10:58] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I love firefox too!
[10:58] <g0rd0n> hello! i have a problem with my keyboard... it's the german layout, but when typing the accents (near the backspace key) they get displayed immediatelly... however the correct behavior should be that nothing happens until i type a vocal, so i get the acents on the vocals... how can i chagne this behavior?
[10:58] <Dejavu> dao, which repositories should i add to get j2re and RealPlayer10 added in Synaptic ?
[10:59] <Jedrick> how to start NumLock on boot?
[10:59] <Orborde> Dejavu: Well, the best I can come up with is that you can move your existing panels around by click and drag, and you can create a new panel by right-clicking on an existing one and selecting "New Panel"
[10:59] <SGershon> I have a Notebook. Toshiba M40. It has a Marvell/Yukon 88E8036 PCI-E Ethernet Connection.
[10:59] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, Thank you alot. That is gonna make it wicked easy to get my dad into linux.
[10:59] <SGershon> It was suposed to work with Breezy Install, but its not!
[10:59] <Skid> w 24
[10:59] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Okay all. It's my bedtime. See ya.
[10:59] <Seveas> bedtime, hmmm
[10:59] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: You're getting your family on Linux? Good luck.
[10:59] <Jedrick> how to automatically start NumLock on boot?
[10:59] <Seveas> I just woke up :)
[10:59] <SGershon> Jedrick, try the NumLoxkX package.
[10:59] <Dejavu> Orborde, humm .. lemme check that now :D
[10:59] <Jedrick> ok
[11:00] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Orborde, He want's to try it. I figure if it is alot like windows, he'll stay.
[11:00] <Hendric> 5PM here
[11:00] <Hendric> hihi
[11:00] <dao> Dejavu, I use javapackage for java and I dont use realplayer, so I don't know about that sorry
[11:00] <SGershon> I am now on Windows. Can you tell me what I should check when on Linux in order to help you in helping me?
[11:00] <Crys_Ubu_PC> And it ought to be, just better.
[11:00] <Orborde> Crys_Ubu_PC: I'd be careful; it might be better to use Ubuntu, which is already corrected wired with its desktop manager.
[11:00] <tombs> hi all
[11:00] <Orborde> Crap.
[11:01] <Orborde> tombs: Hello.
[11:01] <AES_24_96> !@##$%%
[11:01] <ubotu> AES_24_96: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:01] <AES_24_96> argh
[11:01] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Not so hot?
[11:01] <AES_24_96> Im still under bill gates thumb
[11:01] <SGershon> because I saw in ubuntu forum that in Breezy it works.
[11:01] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Well, your computer appears to have survived. What happened?
[11:02] <Dejavu> dao, np :D
[11:02] <AES_24_96> wouldnt boot from the cd
[11:02] <Hendric> AES_24_96, it didn't boot eh?
[11:02] <AES_24_96> nope
[11:02] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Is your BIOS set up correctly?
[11:02] <AES_24_96> maybe
[11:02] <AES_24_96> its set to boot from cd
[11:02] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Check the CD. Stick it in now and see if the files and whatnot appear to be on it properly.
[11:02] <AES_24_96> is fpu copmpatiable mode supposed to be on?
[11:03] <AES_24_96> uh oh
[11:03] <Hendric> AES_24_96, try inserting your CD... then browse the CD.. if you get a single file inside with .iso you're in a big trouble.
[11:03] <Orborde> AES_24_96: FPU compatible what?
[11:03] <AES_24_96> lol ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[11:03] <AES_24_96> oops
[11:03] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Good job.
[11:03] <Hendric> lolx..
[11:03] <Orborde> AES_24_96: That is exactly what one of my friends did once.
[11:03] <AES_24_96> heh
[11:03] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Okay, get it burned correctly this time.
[11:04] <Hendric> burn from image.. don't burn a data disc
[11:04] <Orborde> AES_24_96: Under some burner software, you need to hit Copy CD and select the image as the source.
[11:05] <Hendric> AES_24_96, you can also right click on an .ISO file and see if you get a burn option.. safer!
[11:05] <Hendric> we have that on ubuntu.. hehehe
[11:05] <Yetr2> or under the 'tools' menu of your burning app, find the option that says 'burn image'
[11:06] <brummie> hi folks
[11:06] <Hendric> low
[11:07] <Orborde> Hendric: Yeah, though I'd rather use Gnomebaker.
[11:07] <Mon> hi, after a fresh breezy install my monitor won't go over 1024x768@60hz while i'm sure it had a better refresh rate using hoary
[11:07] <Mon> when i set the minimum rate to 72 for example it automaticly uses 800x600...
[11:07] <Hendric> wat if all the people here ask a question each? hmm....
[11:07] <Orborde> Mon: Not to be mean, but does it bother you that much?
[11:07] <Mon> Orborde: yes really :)
[11:07] <Orborde> Hendric: #ubuntu = DDoSed
[11:07] <Mon> 60 hz is quite painfull on the eyes
[11:07] <sarefo> hi, any hints on how to get an acer usb scanner to run?
[11:08] <Hendric> Orborde, lolx
[11:08] <basvg> hmm, apart from the OO/OO2 things seems to have gone just fine. Wow :)
[11:08] <Yetr2> Mon, try setting up your monitor manually so you can access the higher refresh rates?
[11:08] <Jedrick> How can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows
[11:08] <Orborde> basvg: Well, OO2 is technically a separate beast...
[11:08] <brummie> thinking of going from windows to linux is it as painless as it says?
[11:08] <debugger> hello
[11:08] <sarefo> xsane tells me 'no devices available', under winxp it works out of the box.
[11:09] <Orborde> Jedrick: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[11:09] <Hendric> Mon, for some instance my 17 inch monitor that can handle 80Hz on a 1280x960 on windows.. won't work on ubuntu.. so stayed on lower Hz
[11:09] <kairu0> sarefo, make sure you are part of the scanning group
[11:09] <Yetr2> brummie, do you play games? does your life depend on knowing how to use M$ office products?
[11:09] <basvg> Orborde: jeah, I know :-) I just purged OO and now I'm happy. Diskspace usage back to approx 2Gb so that seems allright
[11:09] <debugger> I'm installing breeze, its seems to be going ok, but I keep getting font config messages like: "Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file"  can I ignore these?
[11:09] <Mon> Yetr2: manually look for specs you mean?
[11:09] <Seveas> !tell Orborde about ubuntuguide
[11:10] <sarefo> kairu0: how do i check this?
[11:10] <Mon> Hendric: but this one worked better before. i can really notice the difference
[11:10] <brummie> not a gamer and dont mind which office type packages
[11:10] <Orborde> Seveas: It does have handy info for codec issues, which is what I was answering.
[11:10] <Mon> Yetr2: apart from that if it worked on hoary and doesn't on breezy something sorta gone wrong imo
[11:10] <Seveas> brummie, then going to linux will be easy, it'll be a relief
[11:10] <Orborde> Seveas: But thanks.
[11:10] <brummie> need a spread sheet and a word processor though
[11:10] <Seveas> Orborde, it does not. It has info to screw op your system
[11:11] <Orborde> brummie: As painless as setting up the Windows preinstalled on your machine? No, and it will never be. However, unless you have bizarre hardware, it should be about as easy as installing Windows manually.
[11:11] <zorba64> debugger: yep it will work out in the end
[11:11] <Yetr2> Mon, it detected the wrong stuff... you need to change it, and yes if it involves looking up refresh rates for your monitor model
[11:11] <Orborde> Seveas: What? Where?
[11:11] <Seveas> Orborde, all over the place
[11:11] <debugger> zorba64, I see. thx :)
[11:11] <Seveas> we've spent countless hours in here helping people undo damage caused by that piece of crud
[11:12] <Orborde> Seveas: Okay, I see your point.
[11:12] <Yetr2> brummie, learn how to use OpenOffice.org on windows first. if not, look into purchasing a copy of crossover office for your linux install.
[11:12] <sarefo> btw, can somebody tell me the philosophy behind not being able to access root, unless you reboot to recovery mode and set the password there?
[11:12] <Orborde> !faq
[11:12] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[11:12] <Yetr2> sarefo, you don't need to do that... use sudo to set the root password
[11:12] <zorba64> !root
[11:12] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:12] <Orborde> sarefo: You can access root via su
[11:12] <Seveas> Orborde, no ou can't
[11:12] <Hendric> Seveas, i believe you.. messed up my firefox with unofficialguide.
[11:12] <Orborde> sarefo: The idea is to keep you from always running as root.
[11:12] <brummie> normal hardware epson print/canon scan couple of plex's an pioneer dvd writer
[11:13] <Seveas> you can get a rootshell with sudo -i
[11:13] <AES_24_96> ok rtheres files on the cd this time
[11:13] <Seveas> Yetr2, and you don't need a root password for that :)
[11:13] <AES_24_96> bbiab
[11:13] <Orborde> Seveas: I just did su, and got a root shell....
[11:13] <sarefo> thx zorba64
[11:13] <Hendric> Orborde, sudo -H -s does
[11:13] <Seveas> Orborde, then you have set a root password :)
[11:13] <sarefo> + Orborde
[11:13] <Orborde> brummie: Try setting up dual-boot first?
[11:13] <Seveas> Hendric, sudo -i is a shortcut for sudo -H -s :)
[11:14] <Hendric> :)
[11:14] <Orborde> brummie: Are you looking to erase everything and start over with Linux?
[11:14] <brummie> gonna build a new machine
[11:14] <Orborde> brummie: Okay, then Linux away.
[11:14] <brummie> this ones dying on me
[11:15] <Orborde> brummie: If there's nothing you want on the machine to do it on, by all means, do whatever you want.
[11:15] <Yetr2> brummie, learn to use openoffice for word processing and spreadsheets.
[11:15] <Orborde> brummie: It should be pretty easy, then.
[11:15] <Hendric> Seveas, i tried "sudo passwd root" then set the password.. i tried the passwd -l to make it normal... i can't get root anymore.. hows that?
[11:15] <Orborde> brummie: Things are known to go wrong, but that's what we're here for.
[11:15] <Seveas> Hendric, you can get a root shell with sudo -i
[11:16] <Orborde> Well, except for me, because I need to go to bed. Good night.
[11:16] <Hendric> but i can't get the password right anymore...
[11:16] <brummie> ok thanks for your help, no doubt I will be in here sometime in the near future pestering you ;)
[11:16] <Orborde> Hendric: sudo passwd might allow you to reset it?
[11:16] <wezzer> only a day left
[11:16] <Seveas> Hendric, sudo needs *your* password
[11:16] <Seveas> not a root password
[11:16] <brummie> bye folks
[11:17] <Cavallo> hi. Is it possible to login with windows2003 domain user in ubuntu? I have join machine to domain and i can see users with getent passwd
[11:17] <Hendric> sudo passwd asks for a password.. then i get wrong password.. i tried user pass and root pass.. no luck
[11:17] <yhann> hello to all
[11:18] <Hendric> that's d reason why i don't passwd -l anymore... specially when fixing the spca5xx which requires you to set root password
[11:18] <Seveas> Hendric, hehe sudo passwd will ask for a password 3 times: sudo asks once (your pass), passwd twice (the new pass for the user you change the password for)
[11:18] <yhann> Anyone here using Kleansweep?
[11:18] <sarefo> i checked dmesg, and it tells me 'usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -110; new full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 3;... device not accepting address 3, error -110'
[11:19] <sarefo> any ideas what that means?
[11:19] <Hendric> Seveas, will the spca4xx bug get fixed on the final release???
[11:19] <Seveas> Hendric, no clue, never heard of that bug
[11:19] <Hendric> or still have to go on CC=gcc-3.4 on every update?
[11:19] <Hendric> spca5xx i mean
[11:19] <Seveas> ah, kernel modules do need gcc3.4
[11:19] <Seveas> that is NOT a bug
[11:19] <Hendric> ah.. ic..
[11:20] <yhann> I need to know how safe he is to run kleansweep as root and wich file can be erased safely?
[11:20] <Hendric> the spca5xx kernel that came with breezy is broken.. locks up PC when running webcam...
[11:20] <Hendric> but the CC=gcc=3.4 did the trick
[11:20] <Hendric> *lacks 'module'
[11:20] <Ng> so the kernel crashes if you compile the kernel with gcc4?
[11:21] <DjKritical> anyone know the command to reload fstab?
[11:21] <yhann> I need to know how safe he is to run kleansweep as root and wich file can be erased safely?
[11:21] <Hendric> DjKritical, mount -a
[11:21] <DjKritical> thanks!
[11:21] <asraniel> hi, i have a REALY big problem. how can i tell alsa to use the second soundcard as the default one? i cant disable the first one in the bios. please help me
[11:22] <Dejavu> how do i give Internet Access to others on my Lan  using WinXP ??
[11:22] <Hendric> can't disable in bios? you got a rude bios...
[11:23] <Hendric> Dejavu, WinXP serves?? then use internet connection sharing
[11:23] <Yetr2> asraniel, of course you can disable the onboard sound... take a screw driver and pry the ICchip off the board...
[11:23] <Dejavu> Hendric, no i mean i wanna give Others net  from my Ubuntu system
[11:23] <asraniel> Yetr2: so you pay me a new motherboard?
[11:23] <Hendric> Yetr2, that should go on the ubunturoughguide\
[11:24] <Jeromee> lol.
[11:24] <sarefo> can you resize a partition under ubuntu out of the box?
[11:24] <Yetr2> asraniel, no, I would just laugh at you
[11:25] <Yetr2> I'm gona try that... take an air rifle and disable the onboard sound on a board to see if it actually disables it.
[11:25] <Hendric> Dejavu, use firewall... Iptables
[11:25] <Yetr2> leaving the board working
[11:25] <Yetr2> air rifles make the best tools for removing those icky ICchips off of mother boards
[11:26] <AES_24_96> Im in purgatory
[11:26] <Dejavu> Hendric, im using Firestarter .. will that do the stuff ?  and from where will i get all the info for this thing  if i wanna do it with the iptables ?
[11:26] <AES_24_96> hi Crys_Ubu_PC
[11:26] <Hendric> wait... i'll find it for you
[11:26] <erick> guys how can i secure my ssh
[11:26] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey, I see you are still running, or else newly installed. Everything linuxy?
[11:27] <AES_24_96> my ubuntu disk booted! I am on a different pc, just making sure I install it right
[11:27] <AES_24_96> I am on the partition settings page and I have selected the partition I want to use
[11:27] <Crys_Ubu_PC> It's pretty self explanatory.
[11:28] <AES_24_96> well do I want to make a separate swap partition on the same disk?
[11:28] <Hendric> AES_24_96, it suggests for a standard partitioning
[11:29] <AES_24_96> ok Im dual booting btw
[11:29] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[11:29] <JohnFlux> I can create a reiserfs4 filesystem, but I cannot mount it :)
[11:29] <Yetr2> AES_24_96, yes, make a partition for swap, usually 2x the amount of ram you have, up to a maximum of 2GB, allowed by the linux kernel.
[11:29] <JohnFlux> the mount program doesn't have any reiser4 mount type
[11:29] <asraniel> so, i can asume that on a computer with two soundcards, its not possible to have correct sound with ubuntu?
[11:29] <AES_24_96> ok I dont wasnt to screw up the other two partitions
[11:30] <JohnFlux> do I need to get a newer mount program, or is it just that my kernel doesn't support it?
[11:30] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, The way it sounded was like it wants you to have four partitions. WinXP, Files, Ubuntu, and Swap./
[11:30] <Yetr2> JohnFlux, does you kernel even know about reiser4?
[11:30] <AES_24_96> asraniel I hope not thats exactly what I am installing ubuntu to test
[11:30] <JohnFlux> Yetr2: I don't know - it's the standard ubuntu 2.6 kernel.  I'll grab the source and recompile it myself
[11:30] <Hendric> Dejavu, i can't find it.. its on tldp.org... grab the rc.firewall file... then change the ethernet settings that suits your setup... then find the accompanying startup file.. that should start the sharing on boot..
[11:30] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC yes, exactly, so do I tell it to delete the empty partition and make 2 out of it?
[11:31] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Yeah.
[11:31] <Yetr2> JohnFlux, or you could just take a look at the config for the current kernel to see if reiser4 support is included
[11:31] <AES_24_96> ok
[11:31] <Trewas> JohnFlux: I don't think reiser4 is included in official linux kernels, you have to patch
[11:31] <Ng> asraniel: it looks like there are some alsa/modprobe config things you can do, google turns up some things, posting to the ml/forum might help too
[11:31] <AES_24_96> now Im going to go retard basic, so Ill be back in a sec
[11:31] <JohnFlux> Yetr2: does ubuntu store that somewhere? (other than the kernel-source
[11:31] <JohnFlux> )
[11:31] <Ng> asraniel: it should be doable though
[11:31] <asraniel> AES_24_96: well, it doesent work and nobody knows the answer to my question, so i asume that its not possible. its possible with mandriva, already did it
[11:31] <AES_24_96> asraniel what cards are you using?
[11:32] <Dejavu> Hendric, okie dokie .. hey thanks for the time .. appreciate it :)
[11:32] <Crys_Ubu_PC> asraniel, I didn't see your question.
[11:32] <asraniel> Ng: i found a guide for gnome, but i use kubuntu, i figured out how to change de default on arts, but not all apps use arts, os i have to change the default of alsa too
[11:33] <AES_24_96> I am supposed to be testing with two RME HDSP 9652's under something called "jack"
[11:33] <Yetr2> JohnFlux, /boot/config-(kernel version)
[11:33] <signius> Operating System [ Windows XP Build No. 2600 ]  - Uptime [ 2 hours 52 minutes 34 seconds ]  - IceChat Version 5.50 Build 010905 - Download at www.icechat.net
[11:33] <asraniel> AES_24_96: a onboard one and a creative pci one
[11:33] <signius> Hmmm
[11:33] <AES_24_96> ahhh
[11:33] <signius> how do i get the message of the room
[11:33] <AES_24_96> I know nothing of linnux
[11:33] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, I have no idea what you just said.
[11:33] <AES_24_96> Crys_Ubu_PC its some soundcards
[11:33] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Oh, okay. I don't do cards.
[11:33] <Paradoxx> hmm
[11:34] <AES_24_96> was just asking ahead of time if it was an identical card asraniel was having problems with
[11:34] <Paradoxx> has there been a new release for debain?
[11:34] <signius> Paradoxx yes about a month or so ago
[11:34] <Yetr2> AES_24_96, generally, a linux system uses 4 partitions, /boot, /, swap, and /home. You can get by with just / if you really wanted to, thou it's a recipie for disaster if / gets curropted. you lose all your documents, as everything a normal user creates is in /home
[11:34] <Paradoxx> oh ok
[11:35] <Crys_Ubu_PC> The good episodes of space ghost are on.
[11:35] <JohnFlux> Yetr2: not mentioned at all (no reiser4 config).
[11:35] <Paradoxx> hmm, can wait for breezy now
[11:35] <asraniel> AES_24_96: the problem is not the card itself, the problem is that i dont want to use my onboard one but the pci one, atm all the sound goes to the onboard one. i want to tell salsa to send the sound to the pci card
[11:35] <JohnFlux> Yetr2: i guess that answers that :)
[11:35] <AES_24_96> ahhh
[11:36] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96 Yetr2: for a normal user I always just say make one big partition.  these days hard disks just tend to fail totally
[11:36] <Hendric> asraniel, disable your onboard... and it should work out of the box
[11:36] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Yetr2, that is a powerful setup you have there. Not really necessary for a newb, right?
[11:36] <AES_24_96> how big does each partition have to be?
[11:36] <Oetzi> hi
[11:36] <AES_24_96> ok
[11:36] <AES_24_96> can I put the swapfile on the same partition?
[11:36] <Oetzi> i have one question how can i disable breezy bootsplash
[11:36] <asraniel> Hendric: thats the problem, the bios is realy.. bad, i cant disable the onboard in the bios, and i couldnt find a way to do it in linux
[11:36] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96 Yetr2: I haven't recently seen just a partition die.  filesystem corruption just doesn't happen much anymore
[11:36] <Yetr2> Crys_Ubu_PC, powerful? where?
[11:36] <Hendric> asraniel, some MOBO requires a jumper to disable onboard sounds... but modern ones do it on the bioses...
[11:36] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96: you could, but don't
[11:37] <AES_24_96> ok so I want to make at least 2 partitions then right?
[11:37] <asraniel> Hendric: thank you, never thought of that, i will check if i can find that jumber
[11:37] <Yetr2> JohnFlux, I'm paranoid about data loss...
[11:37] <Hendric> grab the manual.. if you haven't got one.. search a .pdf of your mobo. then look for on how to disable it...
[11:37] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96: I personally always do:  10MB /boot, 128MB /swap, rest /
[11:37] <AES_24_96> ok
[11:37] <JohnFlux> Yetr2: I backup  :P
[11:37] <Ng> a separate /home is more important than any of the others imho
[11:37] <AES_24_96> and since this is dual boot with xp, none of these three partitions will be primary partitions right?
[11:37] <Ng> then your data is separated and you can reinstall at will and not worry about losing it
[11:37] <JohnFlux> I disagree.  there is nothing more annoying than running out of space on /  when you have GB's left on /home, or vice versa
[11:37] <Yetr2> in theory, you don't need /boot unless you are doing something really funky like / on LVM, RAID, and/or Encrypted.
[11:38] <Ng> JohnFlux: it's very easy to never run out of space on /
[11:38] <JohnFlux> Yetr2: or you have a crappy bios and a large disk
[11:38] <Yetr2> and actually, lilo understands LVM now
[11:38] <JohnFlux> Ng: not on laptops with only 40 or 60gb
[11:38] <JohnFlux> Ng: my /usr/src/kde alone is 17GB
[11:38] <Ng> JohnFlux: my laptop has a <3gb /
[11:38] <JohnFlux> Ng: different usages :)
[11:38] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, In your situation, I'd just use one partition for linux, and one for swap. They can both be primary.
[11:39] <Ng> JohnFlux: a laptop hardly sounds like the right place for kde source, nor does /usr/src ;)
[11:39] <AES_24_96> primary on the same disk that has windows xp?
[11:39] <JohnFlux> Ng: actually I use /usr/local/kde3    but I thought i'd simplify my point ;)
[11:39] <AES_24_96> does primary mean something different to linnux than windows?
[11:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, And I still think you're gonna have trouble running XP cuz it's on NTFS.
[11:39] <Ng> JohnFlux: that's your choice to put the code in a nonstandard place, put it in $HOME/code/ and the problem goes away :)
[11:39] <Yetr2> JohnFlux, my p133 was raped, beaten, urinated on, set a blaze, and thrown into Tampa Bay... I'm not worried about my motherboards not supporting large disks
[11:39] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96: nope. primary is primary
[11:39] <AES_24_96> xp runs fine right now on ntfs
[11:40] <AES_24_96> xp is already installed
[11:40] <Oetzi> Hi can anyone answer my question please?
[11:40] <AES_24_96> Im trying to install linnux
[11:40] <JohnFlux> Oetzi: how do we know?
[11:40] <Hendric> a customer beside me is reading aloud everything she finds on google... any help on this???
[11:40] <Oetzi> 11:36 < Oetzi> i have one question how can i disable breezy bootsplash
[11:40] <zoot_> morning, any folks with software raid experience?
[11:40] <JohnFlux> Hendric: penthanol works wonders
[11:40] <phiqtion> good morning, how can i get root access to the home folder?
[11:40] <Hendric> lolx bad bad
[11:41] <Yetr2> Hendric; goatse, tubgirl, scatmen, man-faye, etc.
[11:41] <AES_24_96> ok Im totally confused now
[11:41] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Right you are, but its my understanding that NTFS is poison to linux boot loaders.
[11:41] <AES_24_96> oh
[11:41] <Ng> Oetzi: edit the grub config file (/boot/grub/menu.lst probably) and remove the word "splash" from the relevant line
[11:41] <Ng> Oetzi: do be careful though :)
[11:41] <znh> Crys_Ubu_PC, yeah NTFS is posion of Bill Gates
[11:41] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey!!! can Grub or Lilo run NTFS loaders?
[11:41] <AES_24_96> well I cant make two primary partitions in addition to my windows partition which is already primary right?
[11:41] <Crys_Ubu_PC> OS's*
[11:41] <phiqtion> good morning, how can i get root access to the home folder?
[11:42] <Yetr2> Crys_Ubu_PC, both grub and lilo can boot a windows OS that is located on XP
[11:42] <Hendric> phiqtion, gksudo nautilus then browse the home folder...
[11:42] <znh> phiqtion, sudo cd /home (the password is equal to your user password)
[11:42] <RedGhost> hey i cant update, each time i try i get errors saying failed to overwrite xxx from package xxx what could be causing it?
[11:42] <zoot_> reprise.. any sofware raid folks online?
[11:42] <Morrowyn> run a root terminal ?
[11:42] <Yetr2> Crys_Ubu_PC, err, located on NTFS
[11:42] <Oetzi> Ng: thx
[11:42] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, It will be okay, I think. XP just has trouble with more than four partitions on a drive.
[11:42] <AES_24_96> ok I am safest making both partitions logical right?
[11:43] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, I don't think it could hurt.
[11:43] <AES_24_96> ok brb
[11:43] <sarefo> what's the best way to reinstall grub after i installed winxp on a machine that had only ubuntu on it before? (not using a floppy, don't have one, possibly using knoppix)
[11:43] <AES_24_96> or wait
[11:43] <AES_24_96> why would I ewant to make one primary?
[11:44] <Hendric> sarefo, grub-install /dev/hdxx
[11:44] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, I'm not sure.
[11:44] <JohnFlux> sarefo: boot an ubuntu install  and do what Hendric said
[11:44] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96: you only have 4 primaries
[11:44] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96: if you don't think you'll need more than that, make them all primary
[11:44] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, Just delete the partition you made with windows, and let the install disc automatically partition the free space.
[11:45] <AES_24_96> ok
[11:45] <JohnFlux> AES_24_96: to be safe I always make 3 primary then the 4th extended if I need to
[11:45] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, It was made by very smart nerds who drink plenty of beer, to help their brains stay smart.
[11:45] <Yetr2> I make all 4 primary and throw the 4th one on LVM
[11:46] <AES_24_96> ok it mae its own, but the swap it made was only337 megs
[11:46] <g0rd0n> hello! i have a problem with my keyboard... it's the german layout, but when typing the accents (near the backspace key) they get displayed immediatelly... however the correct behavior should be that nothing happens until i type a vocal, so i get the acents on the vocals... how can i chagne this behavior?
[11:46] <AES_24_96> one says ext3
[11:46] <Yetr2>  /boot, swap, /, LVM_PV, then each additional disk, I add 2 partitions of swap and LVM_PV
[11:47] <blue_> hi guys
[11:47] <zoot_> calling all raid gurus, yoohoo ;)
[11:47] <blue_> is breezy final still expected at the 13th
[11:47] <blue_> ?
[11:47] <Yetr2> AES_24_96, just trust the default partitioning scheme that ubuntu gives you untill you learn more about linux in general.
[11:48] <Yetr2> blue_, of 2006
[11:48] <AES_24_96> ok
[11:48] <Hendric> usually do a primary partition on /, /home, /usr... then a swap... and a 5GB /windows with fat32 for easy plugging on a windows system...
[11:48] <AES_24_96> then I am going to "finish partitioning and write changes to disk"
[11:48] <benkong2> gday all
[11:48] <znh> g'day benkong2
[11:49] <blue_> Yetr2,  no !!! i mean tomorrow
[11:49] <blue_> 13th of October 2005
[11:49] <benkong2> why does firefox think its already running when I start it? new AMD64 breezy install
[11:49] <Yetr2> blue_, depends... what year do you live in?
[11:49] <ccooke> blue_: Yes, it's still expected tomorrow
[11:49] <Yetr2> some people still live in 1960
[11:49] <Hendric> so mirrors are slow tomorrow eh?
[11:50] <Yetr2> some people's hair cuts were stolen from 1950..
[11:50] <blue_> thank you ccooke , for a second there i was in doubt
[11:50] <blue_> would i have to do a dist-upgrade or a normal upgrade would get my RC to final
[11:50] <blue_> ?
[11:50] <Hendric> blue_, yes..
[11:50] <Hendric> as i am doing
[11:50] <JohnFlux> I'm running hoary - will this breezy release affect me at all?
[11:51] <Ng> blue_: you only need to do a dist-upgrade if a normal upgrade is telling you it's holding things back and you don't want it to
[11:51] <Ng> JohnFlux: only if you upgrade to breezy
[11:51] <g0rd0n> fuck you all you lame bastards
[11:51] <cafuego_> !ops
[11:51] <ubotu> ops is probably Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[11:51] <aftertaf> !ops
[11:51] <Hendric> JohnFlux, it will... gives you the feeling of being left behind.
[11:51] <mustard5> JohnFlux, no
[11:51] <cafuego_> aftertaf: you lose
[11:51] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:51] <Yetr2> g0rd0n, only with proper protection
[11:51] <wold> good morning! (bom dia!)
[11:52] <g0rd0n> sorry, it was my cat
[11:52] <Yetr2> g0rd0n, your can can use IRC!?
[11:52] <mustard5> JohnFlux, hoary is supported for another 12 months
[11:52] <Hendric> *cat\
[11:52] <Yetr2> close enough
[11:52] <Hendric> lolx
[11:52] <Garda> guys. how do i register my nick on freenode
[11:52] <blue_> msttcorefonts seems to be back in the repos :D
[11:52] <Hendric> Garda, /ns register password
[11:52] <g0rd0n> it can even do blowjobs
[11:52] <aftertaf> g0rd0n:  this is a public help channel.... you should avoid outbursts like that, ok?
[11:52] <aftertaf> g0rd0n:  serious.
[11:53] <Yetr2> Garda, '/msg nickserv register <password>;
[11:53] <g0rd0n> my doctor says i should expose my emotions
[11:53] <Hendric> g0rd0n, can your cat unban you just incase?
[11:53] <Yetr2> g0rd0n, that is what closets are for.
[11:53] <mustard5> !op
[11:53] <ubotu> Not a clue, mustard5
[11:53] <rikai> breezy comes out tomorrow? :o
[11:53] <benkong2> anyone tell me how to find out if firefox has more than one process running? When I start FF it says choose another profile because default is already running. But its not.
[11:53] <aftertaf> g0rd0n:  not on a public help channel, where you can have kids on here too.
[11:54] <Hendric> Yetr2, /msg nickserv is not secure
[11:54] <JohnFlux> Ng: how do I upgrade to breezy? do I simply replace hoary with breezy in /et/apt/sources and dist-upgrade ?  should I wait till tomorrow till I do that?
[11:54] <Hendric> yeah! we have kids here installing breezy on a software RAID
[11:54] <g0rd0n> kids shouldnt use linux, its bad for their health
[11:54] <aftertaf> JohnFlux:  you can do it now....
[11:54] <aftertaf> !breezy
[11:54] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:54] <Yetr2> Hendric, neither is using unencrypted IRC.... but that doesn't seem to bother anyone...
[11:54] <Ng> benkong2: "ps auwx | grep firefox" will show any running processes, it could just be you need to remove the "lock" file from your firefox profile
[11:54] <rikai> g0rd0n: i fear the opposite is true.
[11:54] <benkong2> Ng thanks
[11:54] <Ng> JohnFlux: that's exactly how you upgrade and at this point, yes, you might as well wait :)
[11:54] <blue_> benkong2, that happened to me once ... it seems that if firefox crashes, the profile is locked even though it isn't running any longer
[11:55] <Hendric> Yetr2, just incase you do a typo on the nickserv thing.... /ns won't send it to other people
[11:55] <g0rd0n> i salute you
[11:55] <Ng> JohnFlux: see the ubotu link too, it has some hints for post-upgrade things
[11:55] <Garda> Yetr2: thanks
[11:55] <blue_> what i do is delete the profile files ... except those that i want to keep (bookmarks and stuff)
[11:55] <benkong2> soooo where is the profile in my home dir?
[11:55] <JohnFlux> ng: thanks
[11:55] <rikai> g0rd0n: so you're saying all these child cancer patients got there by installing linux then...? :o
[11:55] <Yetr2> Hendric, not all irc applications support /ns
[11:55] <ubuntu_> hi how r u all
[11:55] <g0rd0n> rikai: no, thats because god is a pig
[11:55] <Ng> benkong2: .mozilla/firefox/ usually, then there will be a uniquely named directory in there with your profile in it
[11:55] <Hendric> hmm... 90% thou
[11:56] <rikai> g0rd0n, ah, makes sense.
[11:56] <aftertaf> g0rd0n:  if you want to talk non ubuntu crap go to ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <ajmitch_> g0rd0n: enough of the trolling
[11:56] <aftertaf> and wathc the language please
[11:56] <Hendric> g0rd0n, the god pig created you from his own image..
[11:57] <psycode> Hello, I've updated from hoary to breezy (using apt-get) and now I'm experiencing some problems. mainly, the system can't find some icons (like the gnome-home icon) and also nautilus looks really ugly (icons again) -- any ideas ?
[11:58] <Hendric> psycode, grab a theme from gnome.org and it should dress things up\
[11:58] <blue_> firestarter ruins my upload speed
[11:58] <Hendric> blue_, i usually don't use it since im not in pentagon
[11:59] <blue_> it lowers it by 10 kb/s but strangly it doesn't affect the download speed, !!!
[11:59] <sorush20> is there a really good ftp for kde..
[11:59] <RedGhost> my ubuntu is broked, i cant open firefox it crashes, i cant upgrade anything
[11:59] <AES_24_96> do I want to install the BRUB boot loader to the master boot record? it says it sees winxp as well
[11:59] <Hendric> blue_, maybe it disallows you for DDosing someone.. hehe
[11:59] <psycode> Hendric, can't i apt-get it
[11:59] <psycode> ?
[11:59] <AES_24_96> GRUB I mean
[11:59] <ubuntu_> want help on cacti
[11:59] <Doofy> help, my new hoary install won't boot, all i get is a blank screen
[12:00] <ubuntu_> want help on cacti
[12:00] <ubuntu_> want help on cacti
[12:00] <aftertaf> ubuntu_:  dont spam
[12:00] <Hendric> ah... there theme packages on apt-get.. but gnome.org got more choices
[12:00] <cafuego_> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get installc acti; cd /usr/share/doc/cacti; ls
[12:00] <ccooke> ubuntu_: Every time you repeat like that, you reduce the number of people willing to help you.
[12:00] <Hendric> Doofy, broken install i guess
[12:00] <ubuntu_> oh man sorry
[12:01] <psycode> Hendric, is that something new ? (btw - what version of gnome does breezy have ?)
[12:01] <ubuntu_> any one make graph trngo on cacti?
[12:01] <Hendric> gnome 2 something i guess
[12:01] <aftertaf> psycode:  2.12
[12:01] <Hendric> there it is
[12:01] <Doofy> sigh!
[12:02] <Hendric> Doofy, don't blink during install and observe for errors while doing so...
[12:03] <Hendric> a blank screen can't get 911
[12:03] <Ng> what on earth does that mean?!
[12:03] <Hendric> din't understand too :(
[12:03] <Doofy> the last screen i see is the one that says to remove the cd and let the system reboot
[12:04] <Hendric> Doofy, have you encountered errors which lets you continue thou?
[12:04] <Doofy> Hmmm?
[12:04] <Hendric> before you came up on that reboot thing...
[12:05] <Ng> Doofy: he's asking if you had any errors from the installer at all? even ones it let you skip and continue
[12:05] <mrdeath> hello all
[12:05] <Ng> he/she I mean to say ;)
[12:05] <Hendric> woah... a she Hendric wouldn't be nice
[12:05] <mrdeath> is usplash works in breezy now?
[12:05] <mrdeath> i can't get it work
[12:05] <Hendric> mrdeath, it should out of the box
[12:06] <Doofy> No errors reported, just went smoothly
[12:06] <Hendric> Doofy,  then it should boot...
[12:07] <Hendric> if it doesn't have errors and it doesn't work at all... then thats weird
[12:07] <Doofy> maybe I should set the whatsitname to high
[12:08] <Hendric> Doofy, you get a blank screen when booting? no warnings or errors at all??
[12:08] <Hendric> no grub error 12 or something?
[12:08] <mrdeath> Hendric: i've recreate initrd with mkinitramfs command and reboot. no usplash
[12:08] <mrdeath> no errors
[12:08] <mrdeath> i'm using lilo boot loader
[12:08] <Hendric> mrdeath, no idea.... grub here
[12:08] <mrdeath> vga=normal
[12:09] <Hendric> i lie lowed from lilo
[12:09] <mrdeath> Hendric: it seems that grub don't want to work with xfs fs
[12:09] <mrdeath> that why i use lilo
[12:09] <Hendric> ah..  reiserfs is better..
[12:10] <znh> Hendric, ext3 is more secure with data, but if it comes to speed reiserfs is the one
[12:10] <mrdeath> i saw few crashed of reiser ... that why i afraid a little to use it
[12:10] <locomorto> znh: not really
[12:10] <locomorto> znh: there the same
[12:10] <znh> locomorto, nope
[12:10] <locomorto> znh: maybe your thinking of Reizer4?
[12:11] <znh> locomorto, nope.. I had a server with reiserfs, data was corrupting after a few years
[12:11] <locomorto> znh: its called a hard drive
[12:11] <znh> locomorto, since I am using ext3 its way more stable
[12:12] <locomorto> znh: you know they fail eventually
[12:12] <znh> locomorto, reiserfs is a filesystem :>
[12:12] <Doofy> I've run the install 4 times, it partitions, set language, KB, copy files, then says remove CD and let system rebbot to ubuntu, then the computer reboots and i get a blank screen with a flashing cursor
[12:12] <locomorto> znh: point in case
[12:12] <Hendric> with ext3 i reinstalled after 3-4 brownouts... with reiserFS.. never ever!
[12:12] <znh> locomorto, they do.. but after putting ext3 on it, it was fine again.. not hardware releated
[12:13] <Hendric> i believe in real experiences than other peoples review..
[12:14] <znh> I believe in my own experiences :))
[12:14] <Hendric> well :) you are not alone..
[12:14] <Hendric> *michael jackson
[12:14] <mrdeath> no luck
[12:15] <Hendric> znh, i can't even believe that a usb device can cause a synaptic error... weird.
[12:16] <mrdeath> 
[12:16] <mrdeath> [WWW]  UPower is a next generation bootsplash for linux systems. It needs no patches and it's installed like a normal package, make your boot process eye-candy with Upower!
[12:16] <mrdeath> ubuntu plans to to change usplash to upower?
[12:17] <mrdeath> just found a record at ubuntu wiki
[12:17] <lopla> h there! can u tell me a web page where i can see the packets i could get using aptittude?
[12:17] <rob_> lopla, use: apt-cache search <packagename>
[12:17] <aftertaf> lopla:  install synaptic and see locally :)
[12:17] <rob_> lopla, or use synaptic or gnome-app-install
[12:18] <Hendric> there is a group of people who's trying to run windows drivers on linux.. cool!
[12:18] <rob_> or even the web page
[12:18] <lopla> thx!
[12:18] <lopla> im so noob :(
[12:18] <lopla> i have another silly question
[12:18] <rob_> Hendric, that seems pointless
[12:18] <lopla> if i want to go to terminal using keystrokes, i use alt f1
[12:18] <Hendric> rob_, just stating
[12:18] <lopla> but how can i go back to gnome?
[12:19] <aftertaf> lopla:  alt + F7
[12:19] <lopla> i tried startx but it said, obviously, that another session on X was running
[12:19] <lopla> ok thx
[12:19] <lopla> :)
[12:19] <AES_24_96> I made it on!!!
[12:19] <aftertaf> s'ok ;)
[12:19] <AES_24_96> Im on linnux!
[12:19] <aftertaf> brb
[12:19] <lopla> and yet another question ( i just installed ubuntu)
[12:19] <aftertaf> welldone AES_24_96 :)
[12:19] <AES_24_96> thank you
[12:19] <lopla> i think it didnt ask me for a root password
[12:19] <AES_24_96> Im going to go see if windows still runs and then Ill be back
[12:20] <rob_> ubotu, tell lopla about sudo
[12:20] <lopla> but i go write su on terminal, it asks for a password which i do not know
[12:20] <deFrysk> lopla, use sudo
[12:20] <deFrysk> passwd is your local passwd
[12:20] <rob_> lopla, you need to use sudo instead of the root account, check out that link that ubotu gave you
[12:20] <lopla> ok checking it
[12:20] <lopla> what is sudo anyway?
[12:21] <lopla> nah let me just read it
[12:21] <deFrysk> lopla, read it
[12:21] <lopla> yup
[12:21] <rob_> lopla, or if your using breezy, just check out the ubuntu faq guide, under section "users administration"
[12:21] <lopla> ok one more question i have just seen on ubuntu and same happened on other linux disb i used
[12:21] <lopla> it seems that suddenly
[12:22] <lopla> my connection to the dns dies
[12:22] <lopla> as i can connect as u see to irc but i cant surf now
[12:22] <lopla> have u any idea why this might be? im using a router
[12:22] <rob_> lopla, go to System -> Administration -> Networking
[12:23] <rob_> lopla, then add your DNS servers ip address on the DNS tab
[12:23] <lopla> ok let me try
[12:24] <lopla> on that tab i have the adrees of my router, 192.168.1.1
[12:24] <lopla> i think this should work anyway,roght?
[12:24] <xuniluser> Anyone using oomath2 ?
[12:24] <rob_> lopla, it won't work for all sites
[12:24] <akochi> hai i am new here
[12:24] <AES_24_96> ok windows is stil working fine
[12:24] <rob_> lopla, you need to get the DNS ip from your ISP
[12:24] <AES_24_96> now how do I get my dual monitors working?
[12:25] <Hendric> lopla, how about using DHCP?
[12:25] <rob_> mmm... acronyms
[12:25] <Hendric> instead of static ip..
[12:25] <AES_24_96> oh BTW internet setup was paionless! lol I just realized I got on gaim and irc without having to set up ANYTHING!
[12:25] <rob_> if your isp is using dhcp that will work too
[12:26] <AES_24_96> I have an nvidia geforce card, do I need to find drivers for it?
[12:27] <akochi> i am install ubuntu but its very slow
[12:27] <AES_24_96> friggin system found my rme audio cards!
[12:27] <AES_24_96> this is AWESOME!
[12:27] <Hendric> AES_24_96, run synaptic.. find the nvidia-glx
[12:27] <intelikey> i broke it !   :)
[12:27] <xuniluser> Is there an apt-get like app that would download an application and later install it to another machine?
[12:27] <Hendric> then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:28] <intelikey> login fails  before it asks for a passwd    sudo & su same thing.
[12:28] <ccooke> xuniluser: ... that would depend on how many dependencies an application has, and whether the second machine had the same things.
[12:28] <benedetto> hi
[12:28] <benedetto> i need help
[12:29] <ccooke> xuniluser: apt-get handles dependencies for you. If you install offline on another machine, you'll need to provide all the packages needed yourself.
[12:29] <intelikey> anyone want to tackle this one ?
[12:29] <tucoz> Hi, I am looking for the lame encoder in ubuntu breezy. Do you know where to find this?
[12:29] <ccooke> xuniluser: you *can* do it, but it may take you a little work.
[12:29] <spockboy> hi. i keep getting messages "Out of memory: Killed process <foo>", yet i still have *some* memory free. how low does memory get before the kernel starts killing processes?
[12:29] <sarefo> benedetto: you should see a doctor :)
[12:29] <rob_> !info lame
[12:29] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[12:29] <benedetto> i have removed for mistake the application bar situated on the top
[12:29] <sarefo> or is it something about ubuntu you want to know? :)
[12:29] <benedetto> how can restore it
[12:29] <benedetto> ?
[12:30] <daxxar> !info mplayer-686
[12:30] <ubotu> mplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[12:30] <sarefo> removed, or minimized?
[12:30] <benedetto> removed
[12:30] <benedetto> i have pressed remove bar
[12:30] <daxxar> !deps mplayer-686
[12:30] <ubotu> daxxar: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:30] <benedetto> or similar
[12:30] <daxxar> !dependencies mplayer-686
[12:30] <ubotu> daxxar: Are you smoking crack?
[12:30] <akochi> can i install yahoo massenger
[12:30] <daxxar> I am :|
[12:30] <sarefo> don't know, i'm using kde
[12:30] <xuniluser> ccooke: is there a way wherein i have to download the dependencies only needed by a freshly-installed Ubuntu (hoary)
[12:31] <benedetto> can someone else help me?
[12:31] <Hendric> akochi, there is a broken version from yahoo
[12:31] <intelikey> benedetto right click and put it back.
[12:31] <Hendric> akochi, gaim is better.. gaim-vv even better.. gyach-e the best
[12:31] <tucoz> rob_: the problem is that I am running breezy, and I do not seem to be able to find multiverse for breezy
[12:31] <benedetto> isn't impossible because on right click there is no a option
[12:31] <rob_> tucoz, you need to add repositories
[12:31] <rob_> !repos
[12:31] <ubotu> methinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:31] <ccooke> xuniluser: actually, yes. But I'd only recommend it if you're going to do this a *lot*
[12:31] <tucoz> rob_: thanks.
[12:32] <intelikey> benedetto right click on the lower bar
[12:32] <akochi> gyach-e where i found
[12:32] <rob_> np
[12:32] <Hendric> people really wanted the best..
[12:32] <Hendric> akochi, its not officially supported by ubuntu... might break your system
[12:32] <benedetto> so i'll press new bar? ins't it?
[12:32] <xuniluser> ccooke: ok "how"? thanks
[12:33] <Hendric> akochi, but it worked fine for me in breezy and hoary
[12:33] <sphivo> spockboy: You can have a decent amount of memory free, but unusable because of memory fragmentation.
[12:33] <pinucset> how can i install a .deb please?
[12:33] <ccooke> xuniluser: right. There's a tool called debootstrap, which will build you a complete ubuntu system inside a directory.
[12:33] <Hendric> pinucset, dpkg -i package.deb
[12:33] <intelikey> benedetto you can also restore defaults from somewhere in system > desktop
[12:33] <Hendric> pinucset, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[12:33] <ccooke> xuniluser: it's the same tool used by the installer.
[12:33] <ccooke> xuniluser: so, what you would do is:
[12:33] <akochi> i want print from ubuntu to winxp pc ,how to it
[12:34] <benedetto> hum
[12:34] <pinucset> ad -i packaje.deb what i write?
[12:34] <AES_24_96> I am at nvidia driver page, and I need to choose which os, and there are 3 for linnux
[12:34] <benedetto> i solve it
[12:34] <benedetto> thanks a lot
[12:34] <intelikey> benedetto good job.
[12:34] <AES_24_96> is it linnux ia32?
[12:34] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo apt-get install debootstrap
[12:34] <benedetto> i'm sorryu
[12:34] <benedetto> another information
[12:34] <melvztechie> how to run now cacti if i installed, do i need to configure it first?
[12:34] <ccooke> xuniluser: then, you need to make your scratch-ubuntu:
[12:34] <benedetto> how can i install wine in ubuntu?
[12:35] <pinucset> i do sudo dpkg -i yafray_0.0.8-1exr_i386.deb
[12:35] <Hendric> i got a nooby question.. what are debootstraps for??
[12:35] <pinucset>  and it doesnt works :S
[12:35] <benedetto> the system says that the package is obsolete
[12:35] <iker> does anyone know the user used by the apache webserver in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <intelikey> benedetto "apt-get install wine "
[12:35] <ccooke> xuniluser: pick a directory - say, /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu
[12:35] <Hendric> pinucset, whats d error?
[12:35] <benedetto> yes
[12:35] <benedetto> i've tried
[12:35] <Hendric> !debootstrap
[12:35] <ubotu> Hendric: No idea
[12:35] <pinucset> dpkg: s'ha produt un error en processar yafray_0.0.8-1exr_i386.deb (--install):
[12:35] <pinucset>  no es pot accedir a l'arxiu: El fitxer o directori no existeix
[12:35] <pinucset> S'han trobat errors en processar:
[12:35] <pinucset>  yafray_0.0.8-1exr_i386.deb
[12:35] <benedetto> but it give me an errore
[12:35] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo debootstrap hoary /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:36] <ccooke> xuniluser: that'll go off and install a system.
[12:36] <rgrig> guys, any idea with this problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74249 . Basically the sound doesn't work and I get no error message to figure out what is wrong. (and it doesn't seem to be a mixer issue)
[12:36] <benedetto> like package obsolete
[12:36] <pinucset> se ha producido un error en procesar yafray, no se puede accedir al archivo: el archivo o directorio no existe
[12:36] <Hendric> pinucset, you CD first to the directory that contains the .deb package
[12:36] <ccooke> xuniluser: but only the base system
[12:36] <pinucset> ah ok!
[12:37] <ccooke> xuniluser: when it's done, you need to copy /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/apt/sources.list to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/etc/resolv.conf and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <ccooke> xuniluser: then:
[12:37] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ apt-get update
[12:37] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <pinucset> it says yafray depens of libopenexr2 (>= 1.2.2); and libopenexr2 isnt installed?
[12:37] <sarefo> what do i have to do to restore grub? i started installing windoze, and of course it killed grub.
[12:37] <kbrooks> ccooke: STOP
[12:37] <kbrooks> ccooke: think again
[12:37] <xuniluser> ccooke: after that, apt-get will get now the dependencies based on the scratch-ubuntu?
[12:37] <sarefo> i can access the machine with knoppix.
[12:37] <intelikey> hmmm benedetto i don't know then. maybe check which source you have set in "apt-setup" and make sure that you use correct ubuntu sources.
[12:37] <ccooke> gah, wrong paste.
[12:37] <ccooke> sorry.
[12:38] <benedetto> ok
[12:38] <benedetto> thanks again
[12:38] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get update
[12:38] <akochi> i want print from ubuntu to winxp pc ,how to it
[12:38] <ccooke> and
[12:38] <intelikey> any time.
[12:38] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:38] <ccooke> kbrooks: thanks!
[12:38] <kbrooks> ccooke: np
[12:38] <kbrooks> ccooke: and sorry for those caps
[12:38] <ccooke> xuniluser: sorry about the mistake there
[12:39] <ccooke> xuniluser: okay. So now you have ubuntu hoary in a directory.
[12:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> AES_24_96, You got yourself up?
[12:39] <ccooke> xuniluser: you still can't use it, though.
[12:39] <ccooke> xuniluser: you want to use it for dependencies and downloads.
[12:39] <xuniluser> ccooke: that was overwhelming! great help you are of *yoda*
[12:40] <akochi> i want print from ubuntu to winxp pc ,how to it
[12:41] <ccooke> xuniluser: now, the first thing to do is clear the download cache - you'll be using that to get your new packages.
[12:41] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get clean
[12:41] <kbrooks> ccooke: umm.
[12:41] <ccooke> xuniluser: and then, you want to *back it up*, because this will have taken a while to run :-)
[12:41] <kbrooks> sudo chroot /bin/bash is better as it gets you in a shell
[12:41] <benedetto> and to change the default os to boot
[12:41] <benedetto> ?
[12:42] <ccooke> kbrooks: yes, but each command in sudo means there's no confusion which ubuntu you're running in.
[12:42] <akochi> samba config how to
[12:42] <ccooke> kbrooks: I'm trying to stick to the safest options
[12:42] <GNAM> what's TIME of final release?
[12:42] <kbrooks> ccooke: ok. ;)
[12:42] <ccooke> xuniluser: so, you should tar it all up:
[12:42] <erick> does anyone know postfix? can I used it
[12:42] <kbrooks> GNAM: time?
[12:42] <GNAM> yes
[12:42] <GNAM> datetime
[12:42] <xuniluser> ccooke: probably how much disk space do i have to prepare for this? (rough estimate)
[12:42] <GNAM> not date
[12:43] <deFrysk> GNAM, in what timeszone time would you like
[12:43] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo tar cjf /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu.tar.bz2 /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu
[12:43] <kbrooks> GNAM: for seveas, he says it is noon
[12:43] <GNAM> as you prefer, deFrysk
[12:43] <ccooke> xuniluser: hmm. A full ubuntu is under 2 gig. The tar will add maybe another 700M
[12:43] <mahangu> mplayer is driving me nuts
[12:43] <mahangu> no sound
[12:43] <deFrysk> GNAM, noon but not shure where ;p
[12:43] <kbrooks> GNAM: he lives in netherlands
[12:43] <ccooke> xuniluser: off the top of my head, 2.5G will be *plenty*
[12:43] <GNAM> auuausd
[12:43] <ccooke> xuniluser: maybe less
[12:44] <xuniluser> ccooke: hmmmm ok.... Thank you very much
[12:44] <mahangu> sound on mplayer anyone?
[12:44] <GNAM> surely i'll download DVD
[12:44] <ccooke> xuniluser: okay. So, if you do this, you'll have a clean hoary install, and a backup in case it goes wrong.
[12:44] <ccooke> xuniluser: here's how you use that to get packages and their dependencies:
[12:44] <xuniluser> ccooke: ok. :)
[12:44] <ccooke> xuniluser: *first* thing: clean the apt-cache again, just in case you forgot to last time.
[12:45] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get clean
[12:45] <ccooke> xuniluser: Then, download the packages:
[12:45] <Paradoxx> will it b ok  4 me to just upgrade to breezy when its released, or do u all recommend a clean install?
[12:45] <ccooke> xuniluser: sudo chroot /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu apt-get -d install yourpackagename
[12:45] <kbrooks> ccooke: do you want to guide me through on a clean breezy install in a pm? :)
[12:45] <ccooke> xuniluser: -d means 'just download it'
[12:45] <Crube> Breezy! Breezy!
[12:46] <kbrooks> ccooke: better yet
[12:46] <kbrooks> write a guide
[12:46] <Crube> I was upgrading my Ubuntu and it went black O_o
[12:46] <ccooke> xuniluser: after you do that, *all* the packages you need will be in /var/spool/scratch-ubuntu/var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:46] <rikai> Paradoxx: as long as you didnt screw up hoary(like i have, hence the anxiousness for breezy), than an upgrade should be fine. :P
[12:46] <kbrooks> Crube: thats normal
[12:46] <Crube> kbrooks ok good :D
[12:46] <Paradoxx> kk
[12:46] <ccooke> xuniluser: just copy them out, get them to the remote hoary machine and run dpkg -i *.deb on them
[12:46] <ccooke> xuniluser: okay?
[12:46] <kbrooks> Crube: the monitor gets black after X seconds
[12:47] <Paradoxx> can't wait....
[12:47] <kbrooks> fill in X
[12:47] <Renski> cant you guys wait 24 hours?
[12:47] <Paradoxx> even though i gots no hd space left
[12:47] <Paradoxx> lol
[12:47] <kbrooks> Crube: sometimes i freak out
[12:47] <cafuego_> Renski: omg! no! Must! Have! New! STuff! Now!
[12:47] <Paradoxx> hmm, think i might delete my windows partition today
[12:47] <ccooke> kbrooks: heh. if I have time :-)
[12:47] <Yetr2> AES_24_96, what videocard manufacture?
[12:47] <Crube> Paradoxx what did you do?
[12:48] <kbrooks> Renski: breezy isnt closed to testers - thats why the repos are open
[12:48] <ccooke> xuniluser: clear on everything?
[12:48] <Yetr2> hmm...
[12:48] <Paradoxx> little by little, i been converting my NTFS partitions to ext2/3...
[12:48] <Yetr2> weird
[12:48] <Paradoxx> but today you last of it might go
[12:48] <Paradoxx> :D
[12:48] <rikai> *the
[12:48] <kbrooks> Renski: ubuntu embraces the open source philosophy
[12:48] <Crube> Paradoxx did you have anything important on it?
[12:48] <Renski> kbrooks: I understand that
[12:49] <Paradoxx> nt really, i backed up everything as i made transition
[12:49] <Crube> I've deleted my windows partition many times.
[12:49] <Renski> ...but how 24 hours? Is there really much point? anything you find may be fixed.
[12:49] <kbrooks> windows sucks
[12:49] <Crube> And what I've done more times, is deleting the 8mb mbr
[12:49] <kbrooks> Renski: "but how 24 hours" < rephrase
[12:50] <Crube> And that's no fun.
[12:50] <Dave> Hi! Currently i have installed Win XP on my computer (i only have one hard drive), and I want to install Ubuntu and be able to select which operating system to use when switching on the computer. I've heard about problems with dual booting Linux and Win, but it's my only option. Do I have to do something especial in Ubuntu's installation to not compromise Windows partition? My hard drive is 200 GB, 140 of which are dedicated to Win and 60 are free s
[12:50] <Renski> s/but how 24/but 24/
[12:50] <Crube> kbrooks windows does suck, that's true
[12:50] <Paradoxx> Windows is greats os...
[12:50] <Paradoxx> !windows
[12:50] <ubotu> well, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[12:50] <tuesday23> hi
[12:51] <Yetr2> Dave, read about resizing ntfs partitions
[12:51] <nebo> any ppc user here? how can i turn of the speedstepping for ppc?
[12:51] <Crube> Dave if you install Ubuntu on the other partition it will create it's own boot record and you can choose the OS when you boot your computer. It's no problem if it's partitioned. I've bad problems with 2 hard drives, but never with a partition
[12:51] <Yetr2> windows doesn't support xen yet.
[12:51] <Paradoxx> xen?
[12:52] <Yetr2> right now only linux & BSD support xen
[12:52] <Dave> ok, so the 60 GB of free space will be detected in Ubuntu's installation with no problem at all?
[12:52] <Renski> xen?
[12:52] <bimberi> Dave: yes it should
[12:52] <Yetr2> ubotu well, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[12:52] <ubotu> Yetr2: what are you talking about?
[12:53] <bimberi> Dave: grub will initially be set up to boot Ubuntu by default but you can change that easily if required
[12:53] <xuniluser> ccooke: crystal
[12:53] <Crube> Dave yes. But be careful not to wipe the whole hard drive during the installation. You can do that easily if you choose the wrong option, so be careful what you do.
[12:53] <Renski> hehe, some should port wine to windows.
[12:53] <Renski> *someone
[12:53] <ccooke> xuniluser: good!
[12:53] <kbrooks> xen...
[12:53] <Yetr2> noone has bothered to make Xen drivers for windows yet.
[12:53] <aftertaf> Renski:  lots of us have been on breezy for weeks already
[12:53] <pip-> does anybody know how to get european weatherforecast in my calendar in Evolution?
[12:53] <Dave> ok, so the option to select during installation is to manually edit the partition tables?
[12:53] <Renski> aftertaf: yeah, but im planning to downloading the disk, and helping a friend get away from BSD and pink tie
[12:54] <Renski> so we'll upgrade our lappys together
[12:54] <VoX> who do i complain to about package maintainers repeatedly breaking glx?
[12:54] <aftertaf> Renski:  then wait and get the official iso when released ;)
[12:54] <Renski> I am
[12:54] <Crube> Dave yes you can manually choose where you install ubuntu. It's easy. You can do it during theinstallation.-
[12:54] <Renski> waiting, and waiting...and waiting
[12:54] <Yetr2> vmware and qume actually require a valid windows license to use, as it is starting up a real copy of M$ Windows...
[12:55] <Renski> breezy, breezy, breezy, breezy, breezy, badger! badger!
[12:55] <Dave> and the free space available will be shown as 'Free Space' or something like that in the partition table?
[12:55] <Yetr2> Dave, no
[12:55] <cafuego_> google://badger+mushroom+snake
[12:55] <Yetr2> err, no to manually editing the partition tables dave
[12:56] <rikai> i dont quite understand Xen ;;<
[12:56] <VoX> any way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl?
[12:56] <Crube> Dave you will get to choose which partition to install Ubuntu on. It will be formatted before installing. So if you have that 60gb, you can choose to install ubuntu on it, and you will be able to boot to Windows too if you really want ( i don't know why you want that )
[12:57] <Renski> was the install interface upgrade at all in breezy?
[12:57] <VoX> anyone?
[12:57] <erick> how can I unpack a file with .rar extention
[12:57] <benedetto> someone can tell me what is it vino?
[12:57] <Crube> Dave if you don't mess anything up, your Windows partition will not be wiped, and booting Windows and Ubuntu is easy.
[12:58] <bimberi> benedetto: vnc server for gnome, allows remote control of your desktop
[12:59] <benedetto> ah ok
[12:59] <Dave> well, i'm not the only user in the computer, so I really need to maintain Win (of course, if the pc were mine, I would use Linux only). My main doubt is if in the installation process it is clearly shown the free space available for Ubuntu (to not erase Windows).
[12:59] <bimberi> erick: install unrar (or unrar-nonfree)
[12:59] <Crube> Dave if you have 2 eyes you will have no problem :)
[01:00] <bimberi> ... and use them to read carefully :)
[01:00] <Dave> ok :)
[01:00] <k4myk> what about hours is new relase?
[01:00] <TC> hello, can anybody help me?
[01:00] <Dave> btw, a new version will appear tomorrow, won't it?
[01:00] <CzarAlex> TC, did you ask your question?
[01:00] <Renski> TC: you'll have to give us a few more details than that
[01:01] <bimberi> Dave: yes (although it's just gone Oct 13 in NZ :) )
[01:01] <k4myk> tell the time when is relase a new ubuntu?
[01:01] <k4myk> in poland ;)
[01:01] <CzarAlex> I don't even know what time it is here, let alone Poland :)
[01:01] <TC> does anybody know where you can change the users permissons
[01:02] <ajmitch_> bimberi: sure, but that doesn't really change things :)
[01:02] <benedetto> how can i configure bootloader?
[01:02] <aftertaf> k4myk:  there will be an official announcement when it is released, on the chanel and in the mailing lists
[01:02] <Dave> ok, i'll wait for it, here in spain it's 13:00 pm, Oct 12
[01:02] <TC> the thing is that I can not open my gnome-terminal
[01:02] <Renski> We want to know when, down to the minute, when we can get breezy! (in GMT)
[01:02] <Dave> thank you very much for your help, much aprecciated :)
[01:02] <ajmitch_> Renski: when it's released
[01:02] <aftertaf> Renski:  you can get it already :P
[01:03] <hejux> nice!
[01:03] <Renski> I want the final ISO
[01:03] <bimberi> ajmitch_: ha, i thought that http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ might look different for you now :)
[01:03] <ajmitch_> bimberi: that would be rather silly
[01:03] <VoX> anyone?
[01:03] <bimberi> i know, and will stop being so :)
[01:04] <aftertaf> VoX:  dont know.....
[01:04] <aftertaf> VoX:  tried apt-get -f install?
[01:04] <VoX> aftertaf: there's nothing to force
[01:05] <VoX> aftertaf: everything has installed "correctly", but the "correct" install has broken opengl
[01:05] <bimberi> TC: permissions on a file? right click in nautilus, Properties, Permissions tab
[01:06] <bimberi> TC: or the chmod command
[01:06] <VoX> aftertaf: tho, technically it's not opengl, it's drm that has been broken
[01:06] <poningru> !faq
[01:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:06] <CzarAlex> will I need to do a system restart when upgrading to breezy?
[01:06] <rikai> i clicked the "United States" relase mirror, which sent me to...
[01:06] <rikai> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ <- is it out? o.O
[01:07] <GNAM> candidate
[01:07] <GNAM> no.
[01:07] <kbrooks> no
[01:07] <kbrooks> tomo4rrow
[01:07] <rikai> RC = PR? :o
[01:07] <Skid> release candidate
[01:07] <Renski> rikai: pretty much
[01:07] <GNAM> RC=shit
[01:07] <kbrooks> GNAM: no
[01:07] <rikai> Renski: ah.
[01:07] <GNAM> assaasu
[01:07] <aftertaf> CzarAlex:  yes to benefit from kernel update, otherwise, not necessarily
[01:07] <kbrooks> rikai: RC != PR
[01:08] <CzarAlex> aftertaf, alrighty. thanks.
[01:08] <kbrooks> aftertaf: in general yes
[01:08] <kbrooks> CzarAlex: yes reboot
[01:08] <hejux> about FVWM?
[01:08] <hejux> FVWM powerful?
[01:08] <marcus^> hi
[01:08] <kbrooks> rikai: PR = Prerelease
[01:08] <marcus^> is breezy released tomorrow?
[01:08] <kbrooks> which is what the colony releases were
[01:09] <Renski> marcus^: yes
[01:09] <kbrooks> ajmitch_: not really
[01:09] <kbrooks> marcus^: yes
[01:09] <ajmitch_> kbrooks: why do you say that?
[01:09] <rikai> kbrooks: PR = Preview Release, technichally.
[01:09] <kbrooks> marcus^: breezy has many new features
[01:09] <kbrooks> marcus^: like this
[01:09] <kbrooks> !faq
[01:09] <ubotu> somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:10] <kbrooks> marcus^: on it atm
[01:10] <marcus^> !faq
[01:10] <kbrooks> ajmitch_:
[01:10] <kbrooks> breezy is supposed to be frozen
[01:10] <kbrooks> not sure
[01:10] <ajmitch_> kbrooks: not universe yet
[01:10] <marcus^> kbrooks: like what?
[01:10] <kbrooks> marcus^: read what the bot says
[01:10] <ajmitch_> kbrooks: since I just got 3 uploads in a few minutes ago
[01:11] <kbrooks> ajmitch_: who are you?
[01:11] <nrbq> I can't nmap to install via apt-get
[01:11] <bimberi> ajmitch_: :)
[01:11] <nrbq> Anyone else having this problem?
[01:11] <marcus^> "someone said that 25 seconds ago" :P
[01:11] <ajmitch_> kbrooks: I'm ajmitch_, of course :)
[01:11] <marcus^> !faq
[01:11] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:11] <kbrooks> marcus^: in here
[01:11] <kbrooks> and dont abuse it
[01:11] <marcus^> abuse what?
[01:12] <bimberi> kbrooks: ajmitch_ is a MOTU :)
[01:12] <ajmitch_> marcus^: don't repeatedly ask the same thing from the bot
[01:12] <marcus^> ah
[01:12] <aftertaf> marcus^:  if you want you can /msg ubotu for answers
[01:12] <marcus^> Are you smoking crack?, marcus^
[01:13] <nrbq> anyone had problems getting nmap via apt-get?
[01:13] <sorush20> how many EU contries are there again?
[01:13] <aftertaf> 25
[01:13] <marcus^> kbrooks: why did you give me a FAQ?
[01:14] <ICEMAN-AMD64> got a real stupid question ... win amp .... is it available for linux
[01:14] <sorush20> thanks..
[01:14] <Myrtti> ICEMAN-AMD64: xmms
[01:14] <VoX> ICEMAN-AMD64: it's called xmms
[01:14] <marcus^> i hope xmms has good audio quality?
[01:15] <Myrtti> it's not an issue of XMMS
[01:15] <ICEMAN-AMD64> I want to tune in to internet radio ... that possible
[01:15] <Myrtti> yup
[01:15] <nrbq> is there anyway I can force a download of nmap via apt-get?
[01:15] <nrbq> It worked fine a few days ago when I was building a different system
[01:16] <ICEMAN-AMD64> how hard is zmms to install on a 64 bit system .. fully functional ?
[01:16] <ICEMAN-AMD64> xmms i mean
[01:16] <marcus^> i think i'll install Breezy tomorrow =)
[01:17] <GNAM> dvds are released a day after.
[01:17] <Ng> ICEMAN-AMD64: it should be fine
[01:17] <kbrooks> marcus^:
[01:17] <ICEMAN-AMD64> ty
[01:17] <kbrooks> that is one of the features of breezy
[01:17] <marcus^> why did you give me the FAQ? :P
[01:17] <kbrooks> the faq
[01:17] <juddlei> Hey.. I'm wondering which application you guys prefer when wanting to use "remote desktop" from ubuntu to winxp. Rdesktop? If so, must winxp also have rdesktop installed and running "server" kinda?
[01:17] <ICEMAN-AMD64> xmms available via apt-get ?
[01:17] <xiaogil> where should be stored Stardict dictionaries ?
[01:18] <marcus^> kbrooks: OK, but i asked if it was released tomorrow, not the features :P
[01:18] <nrbq> juddlei, XP has to be set to accept RDP connections
[01:18] <Ng> ICEMAN-AMD64: yup
[01:18] <ICEMAN-AMD64> ty again
[01:18] <kbrooks> marcus^: ok :P
[01:19] <marcus^> any of you tried to run CS on ubuntu?
[01:19] <marcus^> (Counter Strike)
[01:19] <Ng> marcus^: yes, although mostly CS:S
[01:19] <marcus^> Ng: worked well?
[01:20] <vengeful> ha i should try...its amazing how big heads are running on 800x600 on a 21" monitor
[01:20] <Ng> marcus^: yeah, I haven't tried it on breezy yet though
[01:21] <marcus^> ah, thats reasonable :P
[01:21] <apoZ`> join #ubuntu-nl
[01:21] <marcus^> ubuntu niederland?
[01:22] <xiaogil> Synaptics asks where has realplayer been downloaded in order to install it and gives /root by default, which doesn't work, what should i write ?
[01:23] <vicegrip> did you download realplayer?
[01:24] <xiaogil> yes
[01:24] <vicegrip> I can't recall the default directory when you apt-get things
[01:24] <xiaogil> on breezy
[01:24] <vicegrip> ...oh
[01:24] <vicegrip> heh, can't help there
[01:24] <deFrysk> xiaogil, thats the old version of realplayer
[01:25] <Garda> hey guys. anyone know how to connect to freenode over a proxy that lets only port 8080, is there mabey an odd server out there listening for irc requests on that port
[01:25] <xiaogil> deFrysk: why is it here then ? and what's the name of the last version ?
[01:25] <Madeye> guys will -d work with dist-upgrade ?
[01:25] <ajmitch_> Madeye: yes
[01:25] <deFrysk> xiaogil, http://realplayer.com/linux is the last version
[01:26] <deFrysk> xiaogil, I downloaded the rpm
[01:26] <deFrysk> xiaogil, converted it to a .deb with alien
[01:26] <deFrysk> xiaogil, symlinker realplay to /usr/bin
[01:27] <deFrysk> simlinked*
[01:27] <marcus^> is the apache default configuration file allright, or should i edit something there?
[01:27] <xiaogil> deFrysk: i prefer to have an older version that is automatically upgraded
[01:27] <marcus^> and what FTPd is the best one? (just for the performance.. i want to be able to jail users and stuff)
[01:27] <deFrysk> and copied the plugin in the realplayfolder/mozilla/ to the pluginfolder of mozilla-firefox
[01:28] <deFrysk> xiaogil, that version is antiquated and I wonder why its inthere actually
[01:28] <[Spooky] > anyone know how to change the smtp port in Evolution ?
[01:28] <Hobart> I'm dist-upgrading the Hoary box I'm on to Breezy now, any known issues besides the wiki page?
[01:29] <deFrysk> Hobart, read the upgradenotes, see /topic
[01:30] <Hobart> deFrysk -> That's what I meant by "besides the wiki page"
[01:30] <fryfrog> is it possible to go from i386 -> x86_64 by changing my deb source.list?
[01:30] <benedetto> please how can i automount a ntfs partition?
[01:31] <aftertaf> !mount
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:31] <deFrysk> Hobart, one thing i did : and that is accepting all new settings when asked and not leave the default settings in
[01:31] <Hobart> deFrysk -> roger wilco, thanks
[01:31] <aftertaf> benedetto:  type /msg ubotu mount   (in this chan)
[01:31] <SGershon>  /msg ubotu mount
[01:31] <aftertaf> !tell benedetto about windowsdrives
[01:32] <aftertaf> easier..... being lame, sorry :)
[01:32] <benedetto> thanks
[01:33] <aftertaf> :)
[01:33] <[Spooky] > anyone know how to change the smtp port in Evolution ?
[01:34] <locomorto> Spooky: yes
[01:34] <iceman-AMD64> now how to get internet radio with xmms
[01:34] <[Spooky] > yep got it
[01:34] <locomorto> Spooky: for exaple if your server is mail.locomorto.com
[01:34] <locomorto> Spooky: use mail.locomorto.com:<port>
[01:34] <locomorto> Spooky: eg mail.locomorto.com:26
[01:35] <LaserLine> Hello all
[01:35] <LaserLine> Does Xubuntu have a menu editing program such as SMEG  ?
[01:35] <LaserLine> And does it come with a package manager ?
[01:36] <iceman-AMD64> how to get xmms to play internet radio >
[01:36] <dbug> asudo apt-get install xmms
[01:36] <dbug> *sudo
[01:36] <thoreauputic> iceman-AMD64: easy way is to install streamtuner and use its index of shoutcast etc
[01:37] <vengeful> laserline, on breezy?
[01:37] <vengeful> systems, Applications Menu Editor should work?
[01:37] <LaserLine> vengeful yeah.
[01:37] <iceman-AMD64> can u get streamtuner via aptget
[01:38] <LaserLine> vengeful I checkt packages.ubuntu.com and saw synaptic. but I didn't find any Menu Editor
[01:38] <vengeful> its already installed
[01:38] <vengeful> or should be
[01:38] <vengeful> click on system
[01:38] <vengeful> what do you see in there
[01:39] <LaserLine> vengeful I'm asking, I haven't installed yet... :-)
[01:39] <vengeful> oh
[01:39] <vengeful> then yes it does
[01:39] <vengeful> when you get to desktop click system
[01:39] <vengeful> and its there
[01:39] <LaserLine> vengeful I have XFCE4 desktop installed on Hoary, and it was kinda pain to edit menus..
[01:39] <vengeful> i have xfce4 on breezy
[01:40] <vengeful> right click, system, applications menu editor
[01:40] <LaserLine> vengeful and does it have integrated sound like gnome has (notification?)  ?
[01:40] <vengeful> integrated sound for what?
[01:40] <crimsun> Xfce doesn't distribute a sound daemon
[01:40] <crimsun> its purpose is to remain lightweight
[01:40] <LaserLine> vengefil What crimsun said...
[01:41] <LaserLine> crimsun but if I use firefox or media players, will I hear sound ?
[01:41] <crimsun> yes
[01:41] <LaserLine> crimsun it'll use the Alsa layer or ESD ?
[01:41] <crimsun> Xfce doesn't care
[01:41] <crimsun> it's your applications that care
[01:41] <LaserLine> crimsun There is no Multimedia system selector ?
[01:41] <iceman-AMD64> shoot ... why i never have devoted myself to linux ...
[01:41] <crimsun> no, remember the whole "don't care about sound daemon" bit?
[01:42] <LaserLine> crimsun (that's good) becuase Gnome's ESD in hoary crashes on me..
[01:42] <iceman-AMD64> getting everything to work
[01:42] <LaserLine> Hey funkyHat :-)
[01:42] <funkyHat> hey :)
[01:42] <LaserLine> crimsun :p: !
[01:42] <LaserLine> crimsun LoL !
[01:42] <zygis> LaserLine, if it crashes with GNOME it will crash with any other environment out there
[01:43] <zygis> LaserLine, simply don't use it with your applications
[01:43] <gsuveg> re
[01:43] <iceman-AMD64> Try      to just get internet radio set ... no ppppoint and click ,,, to much configurations bull ...
[01:43] <LaserLine> zygis yeah, it's an ollllld hardware. I do, but sometimes I hear a small skerk from the speakers and then ESD uses 100% CPU and I have to kill it from TTY2
[01:43] <gsuveg> anybody downloaded xara extreme ?
[01:44] <deFrysk> never heard of it
[01:44] <deFrysk> must be a game then
[01:44] <zygis> LaserLine, have you tried to use different sound outpu plugins in your programs (alsa, oss)?
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> its on slashdot
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> nope
[01:44] <zygis> *output
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> its graphics prog
[01:45] <LaserLine> zygis yeah,
[01:45] <meiam> i
[01:45] <iceman-AMD64> how do i point shout cast to xmms
[01:45] <LaserLine> zygis I use ALSA in all programs and even in Gnome.
[01:45] <meiam> j
[01:45] <gsuveg> http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[01:45] <gsuveg> wickedpuppy: are you donwloaded ?
[01:46] <iceman-AMD64> where is xmms in the directories ?
[01:46] <funkyHat> iceman-AMD64, probably /usr/bin
[01:46] <LaserLine> zygis got an idea ?
[01:46] <rikai> isnt there a Xubuntu(XFCE ubuntu) in the works?
[01:47] <rikai> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu <- indeed there is. ;)
[01:47] <funkyHat> yep
[01:47] <iceman-AMD64> dont see it in /usr/bin
[01:48] <zygis> LaserLine, you don't need one :) it'll work on any desktop environment
[01:48] <deFrysk> iceman-AMD64, perhaps install xmms first ?
[01:48] <damo21> rikai apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <LaserLine> zygis I mean in my Gnome...
[01:48] <iceman-AMD64> installed
[01:48] <iceman-AMD64> listed and opens
[01:48] <funkyHat> damo21, it's apt-get install, _and_ it's only available in breezy ;)
[01:48] <iceman-AMD64> not in usr/bin
[01:48] <rikai> LaserLine: "esound will be part of xubuntu, but it is not set up yet by default"
[01:48] <damo21> funkyhat: yeah u are right ;)
[01:48] <deFrysk> the executable should be /usr/bin/xmms iceman-AMD64 try it in your console
[01:49] <LaserLine> zygis I can't figure out this issue... It's driveing me crazy, and after I kill ESD I can't restart it (I get skwerks) and to get sound back I have to restart the laptop... the funny thing is I restart it twice a day (if I need sound)
[01:49] <zygis> `killall -9 esd; esd' doesn't work?
[01:49] <LaserLine> didn't try -9
[01:49] <Shinjan> hi folks
[01:49] <LaserLine> zygis what does -9 do ?
[01:50] <damo21> its brute force die
[01:50] <iceman-AMD64> need to point shoutcast to the player ...
[01:50] <deFrysk> iceman with firefox ?
[01:50] <damo21> SIGINT 9 : kill dont wait for signal handler or something
[01:50] <LaserLine> zygis what happens if I kill it witout hthe -9 ? just killall esd and then esd ?
[01:51] <zygis> LaserLine, kill -9 sends KILL signal instead of HUP
[01:51] <rikai> LaserLine: -9 forces it to die essentially.
[01:51] <zygis> sometimes simpe kill is not sufficient
[01:51] <zygis> *simple
[01:51] <damo21> yup
[01:51] <devid> ciao
[01:51] <devid> a tutti
[01:51] <Ng> zygis: kill -9 sends KILL instead of TERM
[01:51] <Ng> zygis: HUP is a different signal
[01:52] <devid> can i make you a question?
[01:52] <iceman-AMD64> shoot ... how to unhide xmms in usr/bin
[01:52] <rikai> LaserLine: without -9, i believe it just tell it to die, and lets it finish what it was doing.
[01:52] <damo21> TERM gives it time to clean up its own exit
[01:52] <fango> Would people recommend a clean install of breezy or a dust-upgrade from hoary?
[01:52] <LaserLine> zygis Where should I do the killall ? at TTY2 or just a termnial is the gnome session ?
[01:52] <zygis> erm, that's right, Ng :)
[01:52] <deFrysk> iceman-AMD64, /usr/bin/xmms
[01:52] <devid> someone can explain me the command TOP?
[01:52] <rikai> LaserLine: a terminal should do fine, at least it does for me.
[01:52] <deFrysk> iceman-AMD64, its not hidden
[01:52] <LaserLine> rikai thanks, noted :-)
[01:53] <zygis> from wherever you want, e.g. ALT+F2 in GNOME, and just killall -9 esd
[01:53] <rikai> devid: open a terminal and type: man top
[01:53] <zygis> :)
[01:53] <Hendric> good evning ya'll
[01:53] <damo21> devid: its like a process explorer but it puts the most cpu intensive on the top by default
[01:53] <LaserLine> I hope I won't have to reboot ofthen now :-D
[01:53] <fango> devid, http://www.comfsm.fm/computing/UNIX/top.html
[01:53] <deFrysk> iceman-AMD64, its /usr/bin/xmms , not usr/bin/xmms
[01:53] <fango> Would people recommend a clean install of breezy or a dust-upgrade from hoary?
[01:53] <rikai> fango: as long as hory is working fine, you should be able to dist-upgrade, and if you have issues, you can always do a fresh install later.
[01:54] <iceman-AMD64> my bag .. i was searching /bin/ .... not  /usr/bin/ .... thank you
[01:54] <rikai> fango: though, i'd wait till tomorrow, when the official comes out.
[01:54] <iceman-AMD64> point shoutcast right to it and works...
[01:54] <LaserLine> If I want to install Xubuntu on my laptop (I'll wipe the damn thing and install breezy from beginning) should I go with default installation and then install Xubuntu and use it as default or just choose server and APT-GET Xubuntu ?
[01:54] <damo21> how long will it take for bigpond australia to have the breezy file mirrored? :P
[01:55] <Duckblur> i need help
[01:55] <Hobbsee> damo21: i think you can submit it there
[01:55] <Hobbsee> hopefully, not too long
[01:55] <Renski> Duckblur: with?
[01:55] <Hendric> damo = weed
[01:55] <rikai> LaserLine: you could wait for a bit and wait for the official Xubuntu standalone to come out.
[01:55] <Duckblur> Well. I just installed Ubuntu. And I'm totally new to this linux thing.
[01:55] <damo21> weed?
[01:55] <rikai> LaserLine: they're trying to release it ASAP.
[01:55] <looksasu> I'm trying to upgrade my half upgraded hoary/breezy setup to breezy
[01:55] <Duckblur> Problem i'm having as of now is my monitor :/
[01:55] <looksasu> but having a problem with xrgb
[01:55] <Renski> Duckblur: whats the problem?
[01:55] <fango> Duckblur, whats the prob exactly?
[01:56] <Duckblur> I screen resolution, I can't change the refresh rate from 60hz
[01:56] <fango> Duckblur, what monitor?
[01:56] <LaserLine> rikai ASAP will be next month ?
[01:56] <Duckblur> also, i've noticed tearing on my screen
[01:56] <looksasu> apt-get -f install complains about
[01:56] <looksasu> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:56] <looksasu>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/showrgb', which is also in package xutils
[01:56] <looksasu> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:56] <looksasu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb
[01:56] <looksasu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:56] <Duckblur> It's a Compaq FS740
[01:57] <damo21> plz no pasting
[01:57] <rikai> LaserLine: not sure, from what i read at the wiki, they're trying to get it out as close the the breezy release date(tomorrow) as possible.
[01:57] <iceman-AMD64> got to love 64 bit with ubuntu
[01:57] <fango> Duckblur, try this it worked for me, I had a mem issue with XORg and my monitor on boot...Are you logged in currently?
[01:57] <Duckblur> fango: Logged in on what?
[01:57] <LaserLine> rikai I read that too, but there isn't an Xubuntu website yet, nor repo's...
[01:57] <rikai> LaserLine: "Xfce4 has been supported in Ubuntu's universe by the MOTUXfce team since Hoary. For Breezy we want to go one step further and make Xubuntu a sibling of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu by having install and live CD images generated for it. We haven't decided on a release date, but it should be as close as possible to Breezy's and should use the latest stable Xfce 4.2.x code."
[01:57] <iceman-AMD64> now how the heck to mount my windows partition and get diablo II working in linux
[01:57] <ccfiel> hello ppl
[01:57] <fango> Duckblur, Your ubuntu box that your having issues with?
[01:57] <VoX> any way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl?
[01:58] <devid> i have to modify the priority of the process with the command top, but I don't know how
[01:58] <ccfiel> how do i install video codecs? and mp3
[01:58] <Duckblur> fango: It's this one. I'm currently logged in just fine on it. I just wan't to be able to change refresh rate to 80hz.
[01:58] <Duckblur> want'
[01:58] <damo21> can someone give me the final link for breezy
[01:58] <poningru> !tell ccfiel about restricted formats
[01:58] <rikai> LaserLine: you can get more info over in #xubuntu probably.
[01:58] <poningru> !tell ccfiel about multimedia
[01:58] <LaserLine> rikai I will wait, but what will be better with Xubuntu (stand alon) then installing Breezy and then Xubuntu-desktop ?
[01:59] <ccfiel> poningru: what do you mean?
[01:59] <Afief> I moved from Fedora to Ubuntu and am having trouble installing new packages. any help?
[01:59] <poningru> ccfiel: dude just go to those sites they will tell you how to do it
[01:59] <rikai> LaserLine: an http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
[01:59] <rikai> *and
[01:59] <poningru> if you have trouble just let us know we can help
[01:59] <fango> Duckblur, try this: CTRL+ALT+F1 , brings you to a TTY, then CTRL+ALT+F7... might sort it out, mem..#
[01:59] <rikai> LaserLine: err, well, you wont have all hose gnome remanans trying to take over your XFCE install. :D
[01:59] <transgress> what would be the proper kernel to run on an amd64 that is running x86 ubunt
[01:59] <transgress> ubuntu
[01:59] <rikai> LaserLine: overall, its jsut much more clean and stramlined.
[02:00] <poningru> transgress: you cant just run the kernel you have to switch the entire os
[02:00] <ccfiel> poningru: ok thanks!
[02:00] <poningru> np
[02:00] <rikai> transgress: why not run the amd64 installer? o.O;
[02:00] <poningru> !tell transgress about amd 64
[02:00] <poningru> !tell transgress about amd64
[02:00] <LaserLine> rikai So from what I understand, it's better to install Kubuntu Standalone instead of Ubuntu + Kubuntu desktop
[02:00] <poningru> grrr
[02:00] <Duckblur> fango: The problem is that I can't access 80hz, it's that I don't know how.
[02:00] <Afief> Can anybody tell me how to install new packages? Fedora used to do this easily, I can't find out how to do it in Ubuntu
[02:01] <poningru> !64bit
[02:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, poningru
[02:01] <Duckblur> fango: *not that I can't
[02:01] <damo21> is xubuntu a released variant yet?
[02:01] <transgress> rikai because i got bored running 64bit... so i decided to put x86 on it... i'm wondering what kernel to use with it...
[02:01] <rikai> LaserLine: pretty much, though if you want multiple DE support, than it's not so bad to install both on the same system.
[02:01] <aeho> Afief, use synaptic, System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager
[02:01] <limguohong91> Hi, how do i add more fonts to my Ubuntu system? I have the font files
[02:01] <VoX> anyone?
[02:01] <transgress> i am not wanting to make it 64bit... it's just like my athlonxp runs k7... so i'm wondering if there is a kernel i should run...
[02:02] <LaserLine> Yeah I used both, because Gnome was primary, I chose Ubuntu installation and added Kubuntu.
[02:02] <poningru> transgress: yeah search for that kernel image
[02:02] <poningru> hold on
[02:02] <LaserLine> rikai So I guess I'll install Xubuntu and add Ubuntu (sound good ?)
[02:02] <aftertaf> k7
[02:02] <transgress> so get k7 with amd64 on x86?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> limguohong91: if they are ttf fonts, just type fonts:/// in nautilus and drop them in
[02:02] <rikai> LaserLine: i suppose, its up to you really.
[02:02] <luite> transgress: yup, works fine here :) (I use k7-smp because I have a dual core a64)
[02:03] <limguohong91> ok
[02:03] <thoreauputic> limaunion: or put them in your $HOME/.fonts directory
[02:03] <VoX> why the hell not use k8 smp?
[02:03] <Afief> How do you go about installing an RPM package? those seem the most ubiquitous in the linux world
[02:03] <rikai> Heh, Edubuntu comes out tomorrow as well, eh? :P
[02:03] <luite> VoX: there is no 32 bit k8 kernel, right?
[02:03] <LaserLine> rikai Yeah, but you said about gnome stuff taking over xfce... didn't understand, aren't the GDM use whatever I tell it ?
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Afief: as far as possible, don't. Else use the alien command
[02:04] <apoZ`> What will be new about the new Ubuntu ?
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Afief: most things are in the ubuntu repos anyway
[02:04] <rikai> LaserLine: yeah, i'm just paranoid myself. :P
[02:04] <Afief> thoreauputic: what other options do i have?? if i don't find it in the reposities
[02:04] <VoX> luite: no, but if you have an a64 x2 why the hell do you want to use a 32-bit o/s?
[02:04] <rikai> LaserLine: i prefer to install the preferred WM by default if i can help it.
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Afief: what are you looking for?
[02:05] <apoZ`> What will be new about the new Ubuntu ?
[02:05] <LaserLine> rikai cool.
[02:05] <phiqtion> how can i add a splash screen tu GRUB? any package available that does this?
[02:05] <VoX> apoZ`: more packages broken :D
[02:05] <aftertaf> apoZ`:  its newness :)
[02:05] <Afief> thoreauputic: I'm just toying with Ubuntu right now. installed superTux throught the synaptic okg manager but can't access it...
[02:06] <thoreauputic> Afief: steps are 1. Enable universe and multiverse 2.search in synaptic or apt-cache search 3. If necessary use the source with apt-get
[02:06] <apoZ`> okj :)
[02:06] <LaserLine> What Kernel Should I choose for a P3-600MHz, and What Kernel should I choose for AMD AthlonXP 2700+ running an nForce2 Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard (2 kernel questions :-))
[02:06] <limguohong91> But... How do i add a certain .tff file fonts into The Gimp?
[02:06] <luite> VoX: I didn't want to reinstall, didn't want to deal with the issues of running 32 bit (closed source binaries) on a64, and I think that 32 bit is tested much more than the amd64 version. and I don't think the performance difference is big enough to be noticeable
[02:06] <thoreauputic> Afief: do dpkg -L <packagename> to see th efiles a package installed
[02:06] <Tomcat_> LaserLine: For the P3, use -686, for the Athlon, use -k7
[02:06] <damo21> rikai: is there a xubuntu variant of breezy preview released?
[02:06] <kbrooks> apoZ`: A FAQ guide
[02:06] <crimsun> damo21: no.
[02:06] <HrdwrBob> limguohong91: system->pref->font
[02:06] <kbrooks> apoZ`:
[02:06] <kbrooks> !faq
[02:06] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:07] <LaserLine> AthlonXP k7 ? isn't k7 old ?
[02:07] <limguohong91> Thanks HrdwrBob
[02:07] <VoX> luite: the performance difference is huge, and setting up a 32bit chroot takes about 10 minutes, max.
[02:07] <HrdwrBob> np
[02:07] <thoreauputic> Afief: dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin to see executables usually helps too
[02:07] <damo21> crimsun: but tomorrow there will be?
[02:07] <VoX> bob
[02:07] <HrdwrBob> vox
[02:07] <transgress> VoX i'm not noticing a huge performance difference at all.
[02:07] <VoX> any way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl?
[02:07] <Tomcat_> LaserLine: The Athlon line (no matter if XP or not) is k7... same kernel. :)
[02:07] <transgress> in fact... i'm calling Bullshit on that statement.
[02:07] <Proteque> hmmm anyone have any ideah how to get spam quick? want to test my spamfilter.
[02:07] <VoX> transgress: *shrug* i did
[02:07] <luite> VoX: huge? in the benchmarks I've seen the difference is a few percent, at most, with some things even being faster running on 32 bit
[02:08] <transgress> i think this might be the white van phenomenon...
[02:08] <VoX> im just going off my experience
[02:08] <kestas> hi, when I try to update my kernel I'm getting
[02:08] <kestas> Setting up linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 (2.6.10-34.7) ...
[02:08] <kestas> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: device /dev/hdd1 is not a block device
[02:08] <kestas> but Im not sure whyu
[02:08] <transgress> however... want to see something special about 64bit... go run flash or most of the firefox extensions...
[02:08] <kestas> /dev/hdd1 is my main partition, it's a block device
[02:08] <kestas> I dont see whats wrong
[02:09] <LaserLine> Tomcat_ Okay, that's new for me, I read on some forums that the K7 is for the Old Athlon's (before XP) I thought K7, but was convinced I should go with the 686... I guess the Athlon could use the 686 too because it's P4 compatible, maybe that's why some forums say go with 686...
[02:09] <VoX> transgress: your point?
[02:09] <kestas> although I have /dev/hdd1 mounted as my root, /dev/hdd1 doesnt exist!
[02:09] <kestas> any ideas why?
[02:09] <damo21> kestas: are u sure u didnt mean hda1?
[02:09] <kestas> its messing up the linux install
[02:09] <transgress> i find, momentarily, the downsides to outweigh the upsides...
[02:10] <kestas> damo21: positive, /dev/hdd1 is my root
[02:10] <damo21> k
[02:10] <rikai> LaserLine: i believe that you'd sue the K7 kernel for the athlon XP.
[02:10] <VoX> transgress: if not being able to run flash in 64bit naitive is outweighing the upsides, you need to re-organise what's important
[02:10] <LaserLine> rikai sue ? why ? did it do something wrong ?
[02:10] <Tomcat_> LaserLine: My Athlon XP wasn't able to use 686 kernels... but that might have been coincidence.
[02:11] <rikai> damo21: not that i know of, as far as i know, the only verion of xubuntu at the moment is avalaible through ynaptic, hat being a hoary release.
[02:11] <rikai> LaserLine: err... *use ;)
[02:11] <kestas> anyone have any ideas how I can have /dev/hdd1 mounted but the device node /dev/hdd1 doesnt exist?
[02:11] <LaserLine> rikai hehe ;-)
[02:11] <transgress> flash isn't all that important to me... extensions more so... but i've been running 64bit on my laptop for a few months now.  i haven't seen good enough reason to change... however... there are many a packages that i can use in x86 that i can't easily use in amd64...
[02:12] <kestas> nm
[02:12] <nomed> hi all
[02:12] <damo21>  Ubuntu v5.10 Breezy Badger Colony CD 5 Live ISO    is available for download
[02:12] <transgress> and it's been that way
[02:13] <ajmitch_> damo21: that's a few weeks old
[02:13] <LaserLine> Those guys on kernel channel write code :-) I don't understand a thing (LoL) I thought someone answered me with code, until I understood he was writing something else LoL :D
[02:13] <damo21> oh
[02:13] <rikai> damo21: colongy cd 5 is the preview release.
[02:13] <damo21> ok
[02:14] <nomed> i'm trying breezy .. it seems /etc/hal/device.d is not present ... do you know if it has another name or what should i do to use scripts that use hal events?
[02:14] <LaserLine> rikai I know AMD64 has it's own kernel, but what with P4 3GHZ with EMT64 ?
[02:15] <afief> Breezy stops installing aditional packages due to some error and doesn't get around installing network support
[02:16] <crimsun> LaserLine: then it uses the same amd64 kernel
[02:16] <LaserLine> crimsun not the IA64 ?
[02:16] <crimsun> no, ia64 is a different beast altogether
[02:16] <LaserLine> crimsun yeah, Itanium...
[02:17] <LaserLine> Off-Topic Is it possible to install Linux on a Palm Tungsten T3 ?
[02:17] <majmaj> hiiii
[02:18] <j0bezone> hello, I wonder if anyone knows what the gconf "apps/totem/visual_quality" key does? I've searched for it, and couldn't find anything. I ask this, because I was having problems with totem-gstreamer using xv (video appeared as diagonal lines (taken from the video, it seemed)), and it worked only after I set it to "1" (non-xv X11 worked fine).
[02:19] <majmaj> any body can help me??
[02:21] <rikai> LaserLine: yes.
[02:21] <atripathi> maj:not until you ask
[02:21] <majmaj> iam new using linux..
[02:22] <rikai> majmaj: ask your question.
[02:22] <majmaj> i have download the live cd of ubuntu...
[02:22] <majmaj> than whats should id with the data??
[02:22] <majmaj> i have burn to the cd
[02:22] <majmaj> but it can be bootable..
[02:22] <atripathi> maj is it iso image?
[02:22] <majmaj> any body can help me what should i do??
[02:23] <LaserLine> rikai I can't find any documentation's about this... did you find any ? I heard there is an P4-EMT64 kernel, does breezy have it ?
[02:23] <majmaj> live cd..
[02:23] <atripathi> what is the extension of downloaded file
[02:23] <rikai> ow... pain... major pain in my back...
[02:23] <apoZ`> atripathi, .edb
[02:23] <majmaj> waitt
[02:23] <apoZ`> atripathi, .deb**
[02:23] <majmaj> yes iso...
[02:23] <majmaj> ISO..
[02:24] <majmaj> than??
[02:24] <atripathi> go to google and search for ubuntu+burning ISO
[02:24] <rikai> LaserLine: last i knew, all 64 bit cpu's used the same 64bit kernel, other than the itanium...
[02:24] <nomed> so nobody knows where to link the old scripts that were in /etc/hal/device.d/ (hoary) ...
[02:24] <LaserLine> rikai and about the Tungsten, do you have an idea ?
[02:24] <majmaj> ok thx atri...
[02:24] <DjKritical> does anyone know the pakage name for playing wmv files in breezy?
[02:24] <majmaj> i ll seacrch
[02:24] <atripathi> np
[02:24] <majmaj> thx mann..
[02:25] <Gourami> hi, I need to authenticate to a proxy server which is why I presume I get no further thatn 0% on sudo apt-get update, how do I authenticate via a terminal ?
[02:25] <nomed> well other question ...
[02:25] <aftertaf> Gourami:  create a new file in /etc/apt called apt.conf
[02:25] <nomed> anyone using xfmedia?
[02:25] <looksasu> !tell DjKritical about proprietary formats
[02:25] <nomed> it seems broken ...
[02:26] <Hendric> hi, i forgot the location of the ubuntu-developer-icon.. anyone knows ??
[02:26] <DjKritical> looksasu, that didn't do anything?
[02:26] <atripathi> Gourami:you can set up proxy in synaptic
[02:26] <Gourami> aftertaf what is the contents of that file ?
[02:26] <looksasu> DjKritical, sorry, mistyped
[02:26] <aftertaf> Gourami:  and add a line to it. Acquire::http::proxy "user:pass@http://proxyaddress"
[02:26] <aftertaf> i think.
[02:27] <atripathi> Hendric: Google Image Search
[02:27] <looksasu> DjKritical, you want to look at the wiki pages on proprietary formats support
[02:27] <Gourami> say ok I am trying to update hoary to breezy, can I do it via synaptic ?
[02:27] <aftertaf> yes.
[02:27] <DjKritical> looksasu, thanks
[02:27] <aftertaf> Gourami:  change your sources, update then dist-upgrade
[02:27] <Hendric> atripathi, the folder location of that file.. i'm gonna change it to something i want.. (the ubuntu launcher icon)
[02:28] <kairu0> cups-pdf is the bomb
[02:29] <atripathi> why dont u use file search :)
[02:29] <looksasu> DjKritical, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:29] <shawarma> What is the "right way" to upgrade to Breezy? I did a s/hoary/breezy/g in my sources.list, but I can't really tell my grandmom to do the same... Is there a really simple way or does it involve opening each repo in synaptic and changing hoary to breezy?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell limguohong91 about repos
[02:29] <atripathi> look for all png and ico
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell limguohong91 about msttcorefonts
[02:29] <thoreauputic> hmm
[02:30] <rikai> LaserLine: nope, mo idea about the tungsten.
[02:30] <aftertaf> shawarma:  yes, doing that, or making your gran a script to run ;)
[02:30] <shawarma> aftertaf: right, ok.
[02:30] <rikai> nomed: honestly, i'd jsut wait for the official breezy release that's coming out tomorrow.
[02:30] <thoreauputic> !tell limguohong91 about msg
[02:30] <looksasu> thoreauputic, how do I get a list of subjects ubotu knows about?
[02:30] <atripathi> looksasu you must be having a lot of patience
[02:31] <looksasu> atripathi, how so?
[02:31] <nomed> rikai, all the player xine based have the same problem
[02:31] <thoreauputic> !list
[02:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:31] <nomed> i would know if it happens just to me or if it's a bug
[02:31] <atripathi> did ya count how many formats you typed in :P
[02:31] <thoreauputic> looksasu: ^^^
[02:31] <nomed> maybe i should tell this to ubuntu-devel .. before the release
[02:32] <nomed> it would be cool to know if it's a real bug ... or just a my problem
[02:33] <[Jonne] > small question;
[02:33] <atripathi> Breezy is yet to release and it says they have already forwarded the CDs to the shipping company. I wonder if i get the final build
[02:33] <[Jonne] > I want to mount a FAT32 disk in a folder in my home directory
[02:33] <nomed> i have problems using totem-xine xfmedia and xine-ui ... anyone else has the same problem?
[02:33] <looksasu> ubotu listkeys
[02:33] <sekundek> Hi! Is it possible to use nautilus for browsing over windows domain without entering pass every time. I've setup domain login and I can log in with windows domain user. But browsing on smb://worstation/ gives me pass and username prompt.
[02:33] <[Jonne] > currently the line in fstab is this:
[02:34] <[Jonne] > /dev/sda3 /media/10\040GB\040Disk\040(sda3) vfat
[02:34] <[Jonne] > what should I change?
[02:34] <looksasu> ubotu listkeys *
[02:34] <looksasu> ubotu listkeys .*
[02:34] <ubotu> Factoid search of '.*' by key returned no results.
[02:34] <spon> Why my i am not seeing any of my hard drives in my computer ?
[02:34] <[Jonne] > /dev/sda3 /home/username/folder\040GB\040Disk\040(sda3) vfat or
[02:35] <[Jonne] > /dev/sda3 /home/username/folder/ vfat
[02:35] <looksasu> !ubotu listvals
[02:35] <atripathi> spon probably they are stolen!
[02:35] <spon> yep
[02:35] <looksasu> !ubotu listvals *
[02:35] <looksasu> !ubotu listvals .*
[02:35] <ubotu> Factoid search of '.*' by value returned no results.
[02:36] <thoreauputic> looksasu: please use the bot in msg or /query
[02:36] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[02:36] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:36] <thoreauputic> or that
[02:36] <[Jonne] > never mind, found it
[02:38] <hubsi> guten tag
[02:39] <spon> you assholes are suppose to help noobs like me... this is my first linux use i have 2 hard drives first is split on two logical discs on 1 i have win xp on second i have ubuntus and on third i have alla my stuff that i want to use so how can i access my drives ?
[02:40] <looksasu> thoreauputic, sorry, had no idea about that
[02:41] <thoreauputic> looksasu: OK - it just keeps the noise down in channel :)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> spon: please read the code of conduct
[02:41] <Dreamglider> smo, /topic
[02:41] <sekundek> anyone
[02:41] <thoreauputic> !coc
[02:41] <ubotu> hmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[02:42] <thoreauputic> spon: and watch your language or you'll be out of here
[02:42] <spon> ok
[02:42] <spon> thx
[02:42] <xxtreme> spon_ maybe you should ask nicely
[02:43] <spon> maybe u should answer nicely when i asked the first time
[02:43] <thoreauputic> spon: this is a volunteer channel - adjsut your attitude, please
[02:44] <xxtreme> spon_ ok, well good luck!
[02:44] <foXgamer> hi guys.
[02:44] <thoreauputic> spon: you are more likely to get responses if you are polite. Your call
[02:45] <esher> anyone can tellme why i dont can type an "@" at x11 ? all other keys are okay
[02:45] <sekundek> does anyone connect to windows domain with ubuntu
[02:45] <foXgamer> Anyone able to help me set up a hp deskjet printer?
[02:45] <athlon> esher,  do you have a non-standard keyboard ? e.g. german keyboard
[02:46] <esher> yes, an german one
[02:46] <atripathi> esher   System>Keyboard
[02:46] <atripathi> hope it helps
[02:46] <cusco> hi! Im running hoary live cd...  I installed mplayer trough apt after I installed the w32codecs from marillat repo
[02:46] <athlon> go there and select a german keyboard layout.
[02:47] <cusco> why can't I open a mpg
[02:47] <cusco> when I type mplayer in the terminal it just freezes
[02:47] <cusco> doesn't open the player window.. and when I hit ctrl + c
[02:47] <cusco> MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: enable_cache
[02:48] <cusco> MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: ao2_init
[02:49] <JohnFlux> IMPORTANT: I'm getting an MD5Sum mismatch from the gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy mirror
[02:49] <liran__> from root i'm doing 'su - apache' to do some changes as the apache user but its saying the password has aged... will i be breaking anything if i change it?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: did you do an apt-get update before trying to install?
[02:49] <corey> Whats the quickest way to transfer gigs and gigs of files from one linux box on a network to another linux box on the same network?
[02:50] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: maybe some packages have changed
[02:50] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: i'm getting the error from apt-get update
[02:50] <thoreauputic> ah
[02:50] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: md5sum problem on the Sources.gz file
[02:50] <liran__> corey, i dont know... ftp?
[02:50] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: OK I see
[02:50] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: I'm retrying (half hour later)
[02:50] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: it will take a few mins (slow connection)
[02:50] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: right - see if it gets fixed
[02:53] <Dreamglider> once i have shared a folder in Ubuntu, how can i acces it from another ps allso running ubuntu ?
[02:54] <Hendric> where can i find the ubuntu logo?? the one besides <icon> Applications
[02:54] <r0xoR> hi
[02:54] <r0xoR> ahh... 1 more day
[02:54] <r0xoR> ok... so is it an official release on that day then?
[02:54] <r0xoR> breezy i mean?
[02:54] <Hendric> where can i find the ubuntu logo?? the one besides <icon> Applications (on breezy)
[02:54] <mwe> liran_: I don't know if changing the password will break anything. I don't think so, but AFAIK the apache user is only intended to be used by the apache daemon, not as a login account.
[02:54] <r0xoR> and what will be different on the ISO image tomorow vs. today?
[02:55] <eythian> But it's already Thursday! It should be out now :)
[02:55] <apokryphos> r0xoR: bugfixes, perhaps; finishing touches
[02:55] <Proteque> I have a problem with spamassassin X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=6.4 required=4.0 and rewrite_subject 1 subject_tag [SPAM]  in local.cf. But it does not change the subject? what can cause this?
[02:55] <r0xoR> apokryphos, hmm...
[02:55] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: okay it seems okay now
[02:55] <r0xoR> apokryphos, so i guess it would be a little bit dumb to download 5.04 atm
[02:55] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: probably just unlucky in the timing
[02:55] <r0xoR> when i could just wait a day and get the fresh release of 5.10
[02:55] <apokryphos> r0xoR: why?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: not to pun, but breezy is in a state of flux atm :)
[02:56] <r0xoR> apokryphos, i dunno, i'm sorta askin... what do you think?
[02:56] <apokryphos> r0xoR: oh sorry, yes -- it would be pretty silly
[02:56] <apokryphos> r0xoR: it would save you downloadin' quite a few megs again
[02:56] <Hendric> any help for me?
[02:56] <JohnFlux> thoreauputic: do you happen to know if the breezy kernel supports reiserfs4 ? :)  hoary doesn't :(
[02:57] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: no idea, sorry :|
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> JohnFlux, you can always recompile
[02:58] <oelewapperke> how do you safely recompile the kernel for ubuntu ?
[02:58] <mwe> JohnFlux: is reiser4 really stable yet? Last I checked quite a few people had had file curruption using it. It some time ago though
[02:58] <oelewapperke> ie what's make-kpkg been replaced with ?
[02:58] <gbay> Hi all.. is there any easy way to get a working 256color xterm? I've tried installing from source but nothing changed
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> the same way you compile for other distros ...
[02:59] <liran__> how can i run a program under another user name?
[02:59] <eythian> Hendric: did you check out the website? Perhaps searching for 'logo', and maybe trying the second link down?
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> liran_, you can su then run
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> su username i mean
[02:59] <JohnFlux> mwe: I'm using it readonly so I don't care about file corruption :)
[03:00] <Hendric> eythian, i did.. doesn't work.. for hoary maybe but not for breezy
[03:00] <liran__> wickedpuppy, im suing to the 'apache' user and it asks me to change a password cause it expired
[03:00] <rikai> reiser4 = very bad if you ever lose power.
[03:00] <liran__> wickedpuppy, can i change it or will it break something...?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> liran_, you can su -s ... then chpasswd apache
[03:01] <eythian> Hendric: huh? they changed logos? You saw this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork
[03:01] <LaserLine> Does anyone know what packages are installed via a 'server' installation of Breezy ?
[03:01] <limcom> hi everybody
[03:01] <limcom> can u here meB
[03:01] <limcom> ?
[03:01] <eythian> limcom: nope
[03:01] <DMFDSandman> what format do you need to enter the wep into for wlan0?
[03:01] <liran__> wickedpuppy, yeah i can change it (premission wise) im just asking if its ok? i mean httpd and other services arent gonna have a problem with this?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> limcom: definetly not, until you ask something in enough detail
[03:01] <limcom> hm..
[03:01] <rob_> LaserLine, minimal packages for a text only environment
[03:02] <Hendric> eythian, not that log... d menu icon that you click like the start menu in windows
[03:02] <icewt> will breezy be released at 00:00 or something? and according to what timezone?-)
[03:02] <Hendric> *logo
[03:02] <Myrtti> UTC?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> icewt: if it's in NZ timezone, it ougth to be here
[03:02] <Hobbsee> if it's AEST, it should be here in an hour
[03:03] <JohnFlux> limcom: don't ever again use 'me8' :)
[03:03] <eythian> Hobbsee: I'm in NZ timezone, it's not here yet :)
[03:03] <limcom> 
[03:03] <aftertaf> stop being pedantic .......... :D
[03:03] <Hobbsee> eythian: no way!  what time's it there?
[03:03] <aftertaf> no updates all day anyway. consider it stable and break away :)
[03:03] <eythian> Hobbsee:0207
[03:03] <Hobbsee> that's what i thought, it is after midnight there!
[03:03] <aftertaf> weird that... where i am it's still last week.....
[03:04] <Hobbsee> and yes, obviously it's not there
[03:04] <eythian> Hendric: hrm? I thought the logo beside the applications was the same logo that's on that page.
[03:04] <icewt> hmm
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> liran_, should have prob ...
[03:04] <Hobbsee> lol aftertaf: you need to look at your calender a bit more often :P
[03:04] <eythian> Hobbsee: I know, I'm awfully dissapointed. Knowing th way these things go, it'll probably be Friday before it arrives!
[03:04] <Dreamglider> when the final ubuntu breezy get released i just have to update, or must i download the CD img  again ?
[03:04] <Hobbsee> eythian: our friday, yeah!
[03:04] <Hobbsee> Dreamglider: you can update, you dont need to redownload
[03:05] <eythian> Hobbsee: yeah, it seems quite unfair!
[03:05] <Hendric> aftertaf, do you know where to change the ubuntu developer menu icon???
[03:05] <Dreamglider> ok gyyd
[03:05] <Hobbsee> shame on you people!  :P
[03:06] <DMFDSandman> does 128bit WEP work with ubuntu?
[03:06] <aftertaf> nope Hendric ... :/
[03:06] <eythian> Hobbsee: it gets worse, I'm currently at +1300GMT...do you know how many websites can't accept that??
[03:06] <Hendric> aftertaf, somebody here told me, sadly i forgot the folder.. :(
[03:06] <Hobbsee> eythian: no, that's a pain!  i guess you have to put it at -11, and be a day behind!
[03:07] <eythian> Hobbsee: well, usually I put it at +1200, that's somewhat less confusing.
[03:07] <Hobbsee> true, but it's still an hour out
[03:07] <aftertaf> stay at gmt, set it manually and deactivea ntptime
[03:08] <antgel> hi all, i'm a debian man usually, but thinking about (k)ubuntu for my parents' machine (they are not the most knowledgeable users).  are apt upgrades supported from release to release, a la debian?
[03:08] <Knorrie> antgel: yes
[03:09] <aftertaf> antgel:  and 6 month release cycle... between versions....
[03:09] <antgel> great. also, is there much difference between installing kubuntu, and installing ubuntu and aptitude install kde?
[03:10] <aftertaf> antgel:  each has a metapackage ubuntu|kubuntu-desktop
[03:10] <aftertaf> each will install all necessary dependencies for the WM in question.
[03:11] <kemik> (ubuntu|kubuntu)-desktop
[03:11] <kemik> ;)
[03:11] <aftertaf> install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop, you have both (sort of)
[03:11] <antgel> aftertaf: so it's really no big deal which os is installed
[03:11] <aftertaf> kemik:  regexp correction accepted
[03:11] <kemik> antgel:  kde / gnome isnt the os
[03:11] <aftertaf> antgel:  IMHO, no... technically, 99.99% sure no.
[03:11] <aftertaf> ISO
[03:11] <antgel> kemik: thank you for filling me in :/
[03:12] <antgel> aftertaf: thanks
[03:12] <kemik> well, its a big difference
[03:12] <antgel> kemik: i meant os as in distro as in ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:12] <aftertaf> now now... nitpicking id for the bored!!!
[03:12] <aftertaf> *is
[03:12] <kemik> aftertaf:  im extremely bored...
[03:12] <kemik> :)
[03:12] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:12] <aftertaf> cant you tell.....
[03:13] <aftertaf>  /nick r3g3xp
[03:13] <aftertaf> :)
[03:13] <kemik> heh
[03:13] <aftertaf> kemik:  install e17
[03:13] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: easily, you can use your brain towards fixing my printer if you want :P
[03:13] <kemik> well.. i actually have an assignment todo.. but damn isit boring
[03:13] <aftertaf> 'll keep you busy
[03:13] <Hobbsee> that'd save you from getting bored
[03:13] <aftertaf> and itis lovely :)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> kemik: ah yes, i've got major exams next week...keep putting it off :D
[03:13] <kemik> e17 is alot of eyecandy
[03:13] <Dreamglider> how do i acces a shared folder on ubuntu ?
[03:13] <antgel> i just read the topic and wished i didn't download 5.04. oh well, can upgrade, so you tell me
[03:13] <Dreamglider> access*
[03:13] <aftertaf> e17 is niiiiice and fast.
[03:14] <kemik> Hobbsee:  mine are in 2 weeks.. got this damn labs todo before that
[03:14] <Hobbsee> eek
[03:14] <kemik> *these
[03:14] <Renski> Ive got some Mathematics assignments I need doing if youre bored.
[03:14] <aftertaf> antgel:  no matter, if adsl connection you have, upto date you shall be
[03:14] <Hobbsee> LOL
[03:14] <Hobbsee> Renski: on what?  that could be fun
[03:14] <kemik> ahh.. think i'll go to the gym instead
[03:14] <kemik> clear my head
[03:14] <Thirsteh> Breezy is tomorrow???
[03:14] <aftertaf> think i'll go see jim instead.....
[03:15] <kemik> Thirsteh:  according to my calendar; yes
[03:15] <aftertaf> Thirsteh:  yeah, but its always morning in irc, so dont ask when exactly, tomorrow ;)
[03:15] <head_rush> YOU ARE ACTUALLY DUMB
[03:15] <head_rush> ?
[03:15] <DMFDSandman> hi all, can someone  help me with a wireless lan problem?
[03:15] <Thirsteh> kemik, damn.. I've been looking forward to it like christmas eve, I was positive that it was today
[03:15] <Hobbsee> according to eythian, it's today
[03:15] <kemik> Renski:  tell me it's something simle.. like "1+1" :)
[03:15] <aftertaf> head_rush:  nope....
[03:15] <aftertaf> child
[03:16] <Renski> err, not its an assignment for a Hons degree in mathematical and computing sciences.
[03:16] <Renski> *no
[03:16] <martiu> hi, i am new in Ubuntu and linux at all. I am having some problems to config the sound!! Someone here can help me
[03:16] <head_rush> I AM NOT A CHILD I AM 13
[03:16] <liable> haha
[03:16] <Thirsteh> lol
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Renski: ooh fun
[03:16] <kemik> hehee
[03:16] <Hobbsee> hehehehehe
[03:16] <kemik> that was really fun tho
[03:16] <kemik> headrush made my day
[03:16] <Thirsteh> Guess you could say a 13-year old is a teenager, but oh well, that's all :P
[03:16] <kemik> someone could post that on bash
[03:17] <Renski> argh, bash
[03:17] <Renski> bash.org has been down for days
[03:17] <eythian> kemik: there's a better one there, I'm looking it up now :)
[03:17] <Hobbsee> Thirsteh: now that's an insult to all the good teenagers!
[03:17] <aftertaf> makes you very clever. dont shout, ask your question, or go offtopic to learn about things :)
[03:17] <antgel> kemik: now i know you're young i understand why you felt the need to pipe up with the irrelevant bit of knowledge before. don't worry, i'm sure you know stuff.  :)
[03:17] <carsten_> hi
[03:17] <eythian> oh, that explains why it's not loading...
[03:17] <xxtreme> martiu_ whats the prob?
[03:17] <kemik> Renski:  maths is boring :)
[03:17] <antgel> thanks for the help all, perhaps see you soon
[03:17] <aftertaf> funny thing, how did he see my 'child' post if he disconnected.... unless its someone else who is very bored
[03:17] <Renski> kemik: I find it intresting
[03:17] <Thirsteh> Hobbsee, good teenager... This channel isn't about surrealism mate :)
[03:17] <Methynutnut> *yawn* <-- bored fellow
[03:17] <carsten_> does anyone have an idea about how large the universe repo. is?
[03:18] <carsten_> in MB/GB?
[03:18] <kemik> Renski:  i find it a necessary evil when dabbling in comp.science..
[03:18] <aftertaf> martiu:  what seems to be the pb with the sound?
[03:18] <Renski> carsten_: I doubt they measure it in mb
[03:18] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: i'm wondering that, seems like he was talking before he entered with the same nick
[03:18] <carsten_> and in gb? :)
[03:18] <Thirsteh> carsten_, I read that as "does anyone have an idea how large the universe is?"
[03:18] <martiu> xxtreme: the default sound of Gnome plays, but when i try to listen some mp3 or play any flash, the speakers stay mute
[03:19] <aftertaf> martiu:  what app do you use for mp3?
[03:19] <Hobbsee> ah yes, i see now, he left before he joined again
[03:19] <Renski> carsten_: no idea
[03:19] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  furious scrolling to put it all together?
[03:19] <martiu> i went in the ubuntu page and try do to some changes that they say, but nothing happened
[03:19] <martiu> i use xmms
[03:19] <aftertaf> which ubuntu page?
[03:19] <Renski> carsten_: it would be cool to mirror it on a large corp. network using ubuntu as a desktop
[03:19] <xxtreme> martiu_ in a terminal type alsamixer
[03:19] <aftertaf> ok... in xmms, you can open the prefs and see what output plugin is activated?
[03:20] <xxtreme> martiu_ tell me what u see
[03:20] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: that's the one, it's getting late here, so everything takes longer
[03:20] <carsten_> Renski, yes, do you have an idea how to find out the size?
[03:20] <martiu> i'll try..just a moment
[03:20] <carsten_> i cannot do an "du" on ftp :)
[03:20] <aftertaf> hehehe Hobbsee
[03:20] <Renski> carsten_: no idea
[03:20] <aftertaf> brb cigtime again :)
[03:20] <Renski> carsten_: im not an ubuntu expert
[03:20] <martiu> xxtreme: i saw some vertical bars
[03:21] <Hobbsee> lol...you and your cigarettes...but you might miss the child coming in again...
[03:21] <xxtreme> martiu_ is any of them muted?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> and you wouldnt want that
[03:21] <Renski> carsten_: but I cant imagine it being more than a few hundred GB
[03:21] <martiu> some of them is filled but others not
[03:22] <martiu> sorry, but what is mutted...i don't understand some expressions in english
[03:22] <xxtreme> Martiu_ i had the same problem, until I raised all the bars to 100%
[03:22] <Renski> prehaps you could find out by scripting something with apt-cache
[03:22] <martiu> i'll try so
[03:22] <xxtreme> martiu_muted means not turned on
[03:22] <Hobbsee> martiu: muted: quiet, no noise coming from them
[03:23] <Hobbsee> make sure you have the other inputs muted though, the line jack sense and the headphone jack sense - that makes a difference too
[03:23] <martiu> how i configure them
[03:23] <Hobbsee> martiu: arrow keys on your keyboard
[03:24] <Hobbsee> up and down to make it go louder/quieter, left and right keys to move channels
[03:24] <martiu> thanks hobbsee
[03:24] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:26] <Sarkie> hi
[03:26] <xxtreme> Martiu_ did that solve ur sound issue?
[03:27] <Sarkie> are the gb reposittries down
[03:27] <Sarkie> ?
[03:27] <messju> hi, i have problems with a sk98lin / skge NIC on breezy. i get an interface and even can ping the address, but i cannot get any traffic through it
[03:28] <sector10> if i have ubuntu preview will just applying updates be the same as new release right? unless i had some install problem possbily..
[03:28] <ubuntugeek> does anyone know if there is a specified time for the breezy release other then Oct 13.. I would like to cordinate the launch on the forums..
[03:29] <Hobbsee> sector10: yes
[03:29] <martiu> xxtreme: the problem continues
[03:29] <Hobbsee> martiu: did you mute line jack sense and headphone jack sense?
[03:29] <Sarkie> Im getting an error for update, if some one could take a look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3012
[03:29] <martiu> i think is something in the configuration of the sound device
[03:29] <xxtreme> sector10_ can you give me that website for the linux sonyvaio FS series
[03:29] <martiu> no they are ok
[03:29] <sector10> Hobbsee: i got loads of updates coming in, thanks just curious
[03:29] <sector10> xxtreme: hi , ok
[03:29] <Hobbsee> martiu: you may find the sound works if you do mute them :P
[03:30] <martiu> the think tha is strnge is that the archive does not open...
[03:30] <frickel> what do I need to do if I can't see fonts on flash sites?
[03:30] <sector10> xxtreme: do you mean the ubuntu notebook  site?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Sarkie: doesnt look like there are mirrors on those multiverse reps
[03:31] <frickel> (but flash is installed)
[03:31] <Hobbsee> take the .gb out of both of them
[03:31] <Hobbsee> *gb.
[03:31] <xxtreme> sector10_   yeah, talking about our laptops, help issues
[03:31] <Phil197> salut tout le monde
[03:31] <steve_don> Sarkie: I had the same problem yesterday I ended up using different mirrors
[03:31] <Sarkie> which mirrors. just taking gb out will help?
[03:32] <steve_don> Sarkie: yep
[03:32] <Hobbsee> that'd get it from the main US site, so that would work
[03:32] <Sarkie> lets see ;)
[03:32] <occy> w00p! 1 day!
[03:33] <sector10> xxtreme: cant find it just now hang on a sec
[03:33] <xxtreme> sector10_ no worries
[03:33] <pl_ice> quick question, is it possible on simple ciso routers to 'block' arp table, o that no spoofing can be done?
[03:33] <Sarkie> seems to be working ;)
[03:33] <pl_ice> *so
[03:34] <Phil197> hello everyone
[03:34] <Sarkie> I had 2 repos to the same site, not good :S
[03:34] <steve_don> Sarkie: did you delete both or just one ?
[03:34] <Sarkie> just one
[03:34] <foxgamer> hey phill97
[03:34] <Sarkie> or else it wouldnt use it
[03:35] <Phil197> hello
[03:35] <steve_don> Sarkie: arh ok will check my sources.list as well then see if that was my problem
[03:35] <sector10> xxtreme: in the meantime there are some here http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html
[03:35] <Phil197> foxgamer
[03:35] <Sarkie> ;)
[03:35] <Sarkie> next problem is java 1.5
[03:35] <Phil197> could anyone help me with the 5.04 distro?
[03:35] <TiMiDo> ask Phil197
[03:35] <Hobbsee> Phil197: nope, not without more detail
[03:36] <Sarkie> how do I search for j2sdk1.5
[03:36] <TiMiDo> !tell Sarkie about javadeb
[03:36] <TiMiDo> i sent you the link
[03:36] <TiMiDo> read ypu
[03:36] <Phil197> in fact, i cant play audio CDs
[03:36] <TiMiDo> *read you'r private message
[03:36] <Sarkie> tah
[03:36] <Sarkie> im there thanx TiMiDo
[03:36] <TiMiDo> np Sarkie
[03:36] <Phil197> but the sound works very well
[03:36] <TiMiDo> Phil197: did you do sudo adduser $USER cdrom ?
[03:37] <leonel> Sarkie, just download the  SUN JDK
[03:37] <sector10> TiMiDo: do you know of the link to ubuntu laptop testers?
[03:37] <hannah> testing
[03:37] <Phil197> i have to do that?
[03:37] <TiMiDo> !tell sector10 about laptop
[03:37] <TiMiDo> Phil197: yes you do
[03:37] <Sarkie> leonel, wont install properly
[03:37] <TiMiDo> well brb later, guys
[03:37] <Pluk> !tell Pluk about laptop
[03:38] <Hobbsee> ah yes, that was what i was going to do...the laptop testing
[03:38] <Phil197> in fact, i can read data CDs, but when i doubleclick an autoi CD, i receive the following message
[03:38] <sector10> xxtreme: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[03:38] <TiMiDo> what message Phil197
[03:38] <sector10> TiMiDO: thanks
[03:38] <TiMiDo> sector10: np
[03:38] <Phil197> "couldn't display "cdda:///dev/hdb""
[03:38] <leonel> Sarkie, donwload , unpack  ,  set the PATH  to the JAVA_HOME/bin   and that's all
[03:38] <TiMiDo> that's not you're cdrom device it should be /dev/cdrom Phil197
[03:39] <leonel> Sarkie, works fine here
[03:39] <apokryphos> leonel: no
[03:39] <intelikey> TiMiDo what are you talking about ?
[03:39] <xxtreme> sector10_ thanks
[03:39] <apokryphos> leonel: no need if there's a deb out there (which there is)
[03:39] <TiMiDo> intelikey: i'm talking to you?
[03:39] <leonel> apokryphos, right
[03:39] <sector10> xxtreme: lets stay in touch
[03:39] <intelikey> TiMiDo ls -l /dev/cdrom  some time.
[03:39] <xxtreme> sector10_ hows ur FS running?
[03:39] <DMFDSandman> hello, does ubuntu support 128bit WEP or do i need to use 64bit WEP because its not working when I try to use to connect through 128bit and it works fine when there isnt any.
[03:39] <Phil197> in fact, i tried to replace this in the CD player by cdrom
[03:40] <xxtreme> sector10_ i got some screenshots i want to send you of mine
[03:40] <leonel> apokryphos, but I prefer to download the JDK , JRE  from sun
[03:40] <intelikey> it is just a symbolic link to the device node.
[03:40] <TiMiDo> Phil197: do sudo apt-get install cdcd
[03:40] <VoX> any way of working out which package that was just upgraded on my system has broken opengl/removed libdrm?
[03:40] <TiMiDo> (:
[03:40] <Phil197> and i had couldn't display cdda:///dev/cdrom
[03:40] <sector10> xxtreme: right now on big box, i can get it
[03:40] <xxtreme> sector10_ whats that, and how?
[03:41] <sector10> xxtreme: try private message. right click on name
[03:41] <sector10> dont know if that works
[03:41] <Phil197> in fact, i supposed that my cdrom is the hdb, cause it is connected on the same cable of the system hdd
[03:42] <Phil197> besides, i noticed that /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/hdb
[03:42] <intelikey> Phil197 yeah that post "<TiMiDo> that's not you're cdrom device it should be /dev/cdrom Phil197" is bogus, ignore it.
[03:43] <Phil197> ok, i'll ignore it
[03:43] <nrbq> hi!
[03:43] <nrbq> need some help
[03:43] <joose^> hi, I'm a beginner, who just installed ubuntu. But i can't seem to get to the 'synaptic package manger' feature. Any suggestions?
[03:43] <nrbq> can't install amule
[03:44] <nrbq> when I try I get a dependency error I can't resolve
[03:44] <aftertaf> !tell nrbq abour repos
[03:44] <nrbq> This worked fine when I built a laptop a few days ago from the same hoary disk
[03:44] <aftertaf> nrbq:  check that link, and also try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:45] <Phil197> in fact, i think that my linux has a problem to read sound from CD, cause i played a song stored on a usb stik, it worked verywell
[03:45] <nrbq> aftertaf, which link?
[03:45] <aftertaf> that ubotu sent you
[03:45] <nrbq> can't see one
[03:45] <nrbq> Just tried the -f option
[03:45] <eythian> !tell nrbq about repos
[03:46] <aftertaf> !repos
[03:46] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:46] <nrbq> says broken packages
[03:46] <eythian> spelt it correctly :)
[03:46] <nrbq> aftertaf, thanks
[03:46] <intelikey> Phil197 you do have the audio cable connected to the cd drive don't you ?
[03:46] <Phil197> yes
[03:46] <nrbq> I've added additional repositories
[03:46] <nrbq> bummer
[03:46] <Phil197> i cheked it to be sure
[03:46] <Phil197> and it is connected
[03:47] <aftertaf> lol eythian gotcha :/
[03:47] <intelikey> and to the sound card that your speekers are pluged into  :)
[03:47] <Phil197> i can even read some video files with totem
[03:47] <nrbq> yeah, I've got all those repos (the ones that aren't commented and a couple that are)
[03:48] <nrbq> Can I flash you the error message?
[03:48] <helpme> how do i access synaptic and certain selected gui apps without being prompted for password?? and as normal user??
[03:48] <Sarkie> you cant
[03:48] <Phil197> yes, in fact, my soundcard is built in the motherboard
[03:48] <apokryphos> you can; that's the glory of sudo
[03:49] <Sarkie> sudo -s
[03:49] <Sarkie> but still enter a password
[03:49] <apokryphos> nope; you do it by altering the visudo file
[03:49] <nrbq> eythian, can I message you the error I get when trying to install amule?
[03:49] <intelikey> yes Phil197  but data is read through the data cable. from a mounted disk.  cda is read from the hardware via the audio cable.     however testng an app like cdcd or playcd (cdplay which ever it is.) is not a bad idea.
[03:50] <Phil197> i type cdcd in a terminal?
[03:50] <intelikey> yeah
[03:50] <intelikey> if it is installed.
[03:50] <pl_ice> anyone got router linksys wless ?
[03:50] <Phil197> ok
[03:51] <intelikey> i use cdtool for all cli cda
[03:51] <Phil197> i'll try this
[03:51] <nrbq> aftertaf, can I message you the error I get - I'd really like to clear this up - a reinstall hasn't fixed it
[03:51] <eythian> nrbq: I probably can't help, I don't use amule
[03:51] <Phil197> before i had the 4.10, and the CD was working after i recompiled my kernel to include the driver of my soundcard
[03:52] <nrbq> eythian, thanks - fair enough
[03:52] <eythian> nrbq: chuck it in a pastebin
[03:52] <pl_ice> nrbq what's the error? :/ u compiling it?
[03:52] <nrbq> eythian, I'm new here - how does that work?
[03:52] <eythian> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:52] <nrbq> pl_ice, not compiling - just ran sudo apt-get install amule and it bombed
[03:52] <nrbq> but worked fine on another laptop a few days ago
[03:53] <nrbq> !pastebin
[03:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:53] <eythian> nrbq: stick the error in there, and we'll see what we can do. And if you can code in Java with SWT, I'll trade some help for that ;)
[03:53] <pl_ice> hm, the older versions were buggy ,but ports have the latest ...
[03:53] <nrbq> eythian, I wish I could! ;)
[03:53] <pl_ice> unless maybe it's crashing with unsatable packages ...
[03:53] <Phil197> how could i do to type a message to a specific user?
[03:54] <adwait> Phil197: /msg <nickname> <message>
[03:54] <nrbq> it's there now
[03:54] <intelikey>  /msg nick  message    but i wouldn't without asking
[03:54] <nrbq> I really hope someone can help
[03:54] <nrbq> This is driving me crazy!
[03:54] <nrbq> :)
[03:55] <aftertaf> nrbq:  have you upgraded to breezy on this pc?
[03:55] <nrbq> I went back and reinstalled all the listed libs from the disk, but no cigar
[03:56] <intelikey> ok time to go.... bbl
[03:56] <nrbq> aftertaf, no, I only just heard about hoary a few days ago
[03:56] <aftertaf> ok. you are on horay, installed from a cd, right?
[03:56] <nrbq> aftertaf, yup
[03:56] <aftertaf> youve added the repos to your sorces list,
[03:56] <aftertaf> have you typed sudo apt-get update?
[03:56] <nrbq> just did a normal install - added the repos as mentioned on ubuntuguide
[03:56] <selinium> Is it possible to get xmms to start without a tab on the panel?
[03:57] <Sarkie> heres an odd one, if i run quake3 from the App Menu, no sound, but if i run from terminal i get sound??
[03:57] <aftertaf> ubuntuguide? argh!!!!!
[03:57] <aftertaf> does your sources.list resemble what ubotu said?
[03:57] <nrbq> have done an update
[03:57] <pl_ice> selinium yeh
[03:57] <nrbq> aftertaf, what's wrong with the guide!
[03:57] <aftertaf> nrbq:  ok. have you checked your repos against the link from ubotu?
[03:57] <nrbq> \0/
[03:58] <aftertaf> the guide is outofdate and gives bad advice sometimes.
[03:58] <pl_ice> selinium devilspie
[03:58] <nrbq> aftertaf, yeah, but I'm just double checking now
[03:58] <aftertaf> ok cool. nrbq if it is, redo sudo apt-get update, then try again.....
[03:58] <aftertaf> it could be a pb with the repos right now, what with breezy coming out tomorrow and all.
[03:59] <Doktoreas> guys is there any way to use webcam on gaim on msn?
[03:59] <adwait> Doktoreas: no, but theres a branch of gaim specifically for multimedia support called gaim-vv
[03:59] <pl_ice> bed :)
[04:00] <Doktoreas> adwait: a friend of mine wanna migrate to linux but he wants webcam in msn...
[04:00] <mirak> is there a way to fix the font paath problem with X11 in breezy ?
[04:00] <Doktoreas> will he be ok?
[04:00] <mirak> Doktoreas: no
[04:00] <Doktoreas> :(
[04:00] <adwait> Doktoreas: no idea, i haven't used gaim-vv
[04:00] <Doktoreas> so i'll put kubuntu and kde 3.5b1
[04:00] <adwait> but its there......give it a shot
[04:00] <frickel> I have some trouble with my root console, can someone help
[04:01] <adwait> Doktoreas: kubuntu or kubuntu won't really make a difference
[04:01] <adwait> frickel: specific info would help.....
[04:01] <Doktoreas> adwait: kopete 3.5b1 support webcam
[04:01] <Doktoreas> i'll use on gentoo here
[04:01] <frickel> adwait: could you open a new channel?
[04:02] <helpme> im using gaim-vv......dont think it lets u view webcams!
[04:02] <adwait> Doktoreas: ok...well then u can use that on ubuntu as well, so like i said kubuntu/ubuntu doesnt make a diff
[04:02] <Phil197> does someone know what is terminal server client for?
[04:02] <adwait> frickel: i could, but you would be better off, coz lots of ppl would read your question...so the chances of getting an answer are higher :)
[04:02] <Dreamglider> Phil197, it's for connetcing to a remote desktop
[04:02] <funkyHat> Phil197, viewing or using a remote desktop
[04:03] <frickel> adwait: Ok, I can't start my root-console... I can only use sudo or su (su I didn't try)
[04:03] <swb> good job guys! Ubuntu gets sweeter everyday
[04:03] <Dreamglider> i am using it now
[04:03] <frickel> adwait: it just crashes after a while and can't load
[04:04] <adwait> frickel: wierd......but u can use sudo fine?
[04:04] <extreme_> hello
[04:04] <frickel> adwait: this works well
[04:04] <extreme_> i hace probelm with linmodem
[04:04] <Dreamglider> how can i connect to a shared folder on ubuntu ?
[04:04] <extreme_> a instal
[04:04] <extreme_> sl-modem-daemon
[04:04] <extreme_> modem work but
[04:04] <extreme_> no dial tone
[04:04] <frickel> adwait: so I didn't notice maye because regualary I use sudo
[04:05] <extreme_> --> Modem initialized.
[04:05] <extreme_> --> Sending: ATDT1499
[04:05] <extreme_> --> Waiting for carrier.
[04:05] <extreme_> ATDT1499
[04:05] <extreme_> NO DIALTONE
[04:05] <extreme_> --> No dial tone.
[04:05] <extreme_> ?
[04:05] <adwait> frickel: um, no idea mate, I am using kubuntu not ubuntu, anyway since u can use sudo, it can't be much of a bother
[04:05] <extreme_> i trying all day
[04:05] <extreme_> :P
[04:05] <liable> through a pabx/
[04:05] <liable> ?
[04:06] <frickel> adwait: I'm afraid that I opened a security hole without taking notice
[04:06] <selinium>  thoreauputic, have you set up a freenx server
[04:06] <extreme_> any advice ?
[04:06] <adwait> frickel: how come? just that the app root console wont start, right? wheres the security risk?
[04:07] <frickel> adwait: I first thought maybe I can't access as root, but sudo works fine
[04:07] <frickel> adwait: and the root console is also only a kind of sudo with gksudo /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[04:07] <frickel> adwait: what could be wrong, maybe gksudo??
[04:08] <adwait> frickel: when u try starting the root terminal, does it ask u for ur password?
[04:08] <frickel> adwait: not really if I already entered it
[04:08] <thoreauputic> selinium: sorry missed it - yes I have one here
[04:08] <frickel> adwait: after a while again I think
[04:09] <adwait> frickel: yeah, but otherwise it does right? so gksudo is working fine....
[04:09] <frickel> adwait: I now try gksudo, mom
[04:09] <adwait> frickel: try using sudo x-terminal-emulator.....what happens?
[04:09] <selinium> I am following the wiki, it won't allow me to change the passwd for the user. Says I need to login first... I will try that then... Sorry! :)
[04:10] <selinium> thoreauputic, I am following the wiki, it won't allow me to change the passwd for the user. Says I need to login first... I will try that then... Sorry! :)
[04:10] <Skid> is it possible to limit the number of processes a user can fork ?
[04:10] <frickel> adwait: hm, with sudo it does not give an error but does also neither start
[04:11] <krum> /nick seigologies
[04:11] <krum> /server webmaster.ca.us.webchat.org 7000
[04:11] <adwait> frickel: just terminalts abruptly? wierd......u sure ur password is correct? (cant think of any other problems :P )
[04:12] <frickel> adwait: with sudo it not takes any effect, in console it also not takes effect... and the pw is ok
[04:12] <dunstabulos> has anyone installed ubuntu under colinux?  i have acpi issues with my laptop, but have debian booting successfully under colinux. Is there a guide somewhere?
[04:12] <krum> sorry
[04:12] <adwait> frickel: no idea then :p
[04:13] <adwait> sorry
[04:13] <krum> wrong place
[04:13] <krum> ;)
[04:13] <frickel> adwait: ok, thx anyway... why u use kubuntu?
[04:13] <adwait> frickel: because i like KDE better than GNOME'
[04:13] <selinium> Seveas: have you got that nxclient still?
[04:13] <frickel> adwait: oh, its with kde
[04:14] <adwait> frickel: yeah, it just ubuntu with KDE.......otherwise everything is same inclduing versions and repositories
[04:14] <frickel> adwait: isn't it the education version for schools and university
[04:14] <frickel> adwait: so its made for more users?
[04:14] <adwait> frickel: yes, its called edubuntu
[04:15] <adwait> frickel: all the *nix systems can run many users at once........edubuntu just has a collection of packages preinstalled which can aid teaching
[04:15] <frickel> adwait: hm, if the console isn't a security risk I can ignore it...
[04:15] <adwait> frickel: it certainly isnt a security risk...
[04:15] <dunstabulos> frickel: its also designed to be easier to use in a terminal server role out of the box
[04:16] <vengeful> i was abit hesitant about it too
[04:16] <frickel> dunstabulos: what way easier?
[04:16] <Seveas> selinium, yeaj
[04:16] <vengeful> but unless you are running a server i dont see it as a problem
[04:16] <Seveas> you need it for breezy
[04:16] <Seveas> ?
[04:16] <adwait> dunstabulos: as in LTSP?
[04:16] <dunstabulos> frickel: ltsp
[04:16] <aftertaf> Seveas:  ready for tomorrow???? got an alias ready to hide behind?
[04:16] <dunstabulos> frickel: according to the website, i don't use edubuntu myself
[04:17] <Seveas> aftertaf, *g*
[04:17] <aftertaf> gonna be 1000x is it out yet?
[04:17] <selinium> Seveas, Sorry reading the wiki wrong, no I need it for hoary. But it does not seem to be there?
[04:17] <apoZ`> !admin
[04:17] <ubotu> apoZ`: Are you smoking crack?
[04:17] <Seveas> aftertaf, I'll change the topic to NO IT ISN'T :)
[04:17] <apoZ`> admins ??
[04:17] <aftertaf> hehe
[04:17] <adwait> !microsoft
[04:17] <ubotu> adwait: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:17] <Seveas> selinium, for hoary -> nomachine.com
[04:17] <frickel> dunstabulos: but ltsp would not work with ubuntu?
[04:17] <selinium> Seveas, Cheers :)
[04:17] <apoZ`> Admin ??
[04:18] <flagfranca> hello all
[04:18] <apoZ`> Seveas, admin ?
[04:18] <nrbq> aftertaf, I'll have to press ahead later - work calls
[04:18] <nrbq> but thanks for all your help - very much appreciated
[04:18] <Seveas> apoZ`, ?
[04:18] <aftertaf> nrbq:  ok.
[04:18] <apoZ`> Seveas, I've been banned on #ubuntu-nl
[04:18] <apoZ`> Can you unban it ?
[04:18] <Seveas> apoZ`, I suppose Treenaks had a good reason
[04:19] <mohkohn> anybody else having trouble installing skype on Breezy?
[04:19] <Seveas> apoZ`, but this is highly off-topic in here...
[04:19] <apoZ`> He was whining about the way I speak dutch, but i'm from belgium where they speak dutch in an other way
[04:19] <frickel> ubotu tell frickel about microsoft
[04:19] <apoZ`> I don't think you can discriminate me because of my origin..
[04:19] <flagfranca> Is there a way to backup a functional installation of Ubuntu or activate some kind of a "system recover"? Yesterday, after I installed some packages (GTK and a disk defragmenter) and rebooted the machine, the GNOME interface didn't work anymore an I got stuck with a command line interface....
[04:19] <aftertaf> apokryphos:
[04:19] <apoZ`> Seveas,  ??
[04:20] <aftertaf> crap........... sorry apokryphos total mess up on my kb there
[04:20] <mohkohn> apoZ I thought you guys alway win tien vertall or whatever that game show is about Dutch spelling!
[04:20] <apoZ`> Idd
[04:20] <Seveas> mohkohn, ;)
[04:20] <frickel> ubotu tell frickel about terminal
[04:20] <El_Che> mohkohn:  the belgian always win
[04:20] <apoZ`> We have quite some dialects
[04:20] <Seveas> apoZ`, don't come complaining in here, there's nothing I can or will do about it and it is very off topic in here
[04:21] <mohkohn> Exactly
[04:21] <Seveas> either come to #ubuntu-offtopic or talk to me in private
[04:21] <mohkohn> I am Australian so I am a neutral observer
[04:21] <apoZ`> Seveas,  So you give in to people abusing their admin power ?
[04:21] <apoZ`> ok, i'll shut
[04:21] <aftertaf> apoZ`:  #ubuntu-offtopic and therell be no pbs talking about it....
[04:22] <mohkohn> Got to go. ttfn
[04:22] <flagfranca> Is there a way to backup a functional installation of Ubuntu or activate some kind of a "system recover"? Yesterday, after I installed some packages (GTK and a disk defragmenter) and rebooted the machine, the GNOME interface didn't work anymore an I got stuck with a command line interface....
[04:23] <extreme_> --> Waiting for carrier.
[04:23] <extreme_> ATDT1499
[04:23] <extreme_> NO DIALTONE
[04:24] <extreme_> winmodem
[04:24] <extreme_> smartlink
[04:24] <bpf> i'm now running breezy on my amd64 workstation :)
[04:24] <extreme_> work on ttySL0
[04:24] <bpf> i hope vmware will install and work
[04:24] <extreme_> ?
[04:24] <Seveas> extreme_, wtf are you doing?
[04:24] <extreme_> im trying to setup my winmodem
[04:24] <extreme_> :P
[04:26] <kuangyujing> Hi. I have a problem.
[04:27] <kuangyujing> Did anyone use Acrobat reader?
[04:27] <kuangyujing> I installed it, but cannot use it.
[04:28] <messju> ok. still the question if self-signed certificates are accepted.
[04:28] <messju> src: wrong chan :(
[04:28] <aitabdel> hello
[04:28] <tritium> morning, nalioths_dog
[04:28] <rob^lt> kuangyujing, just use evince
[04:28] <kuangyujing> evince?
[04:29] <rob^lt> the default .pdf viewer in breezy
[04:29] <aitabdel> good after noon
[04:29] <aftertaf> good morning nalioth :)
[04:29] <kuangyujing> I like Acrobat Reader, so if i can, I want to use it.
[04:29] <apoZ`> Seveas, why do you ignore me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:29] <nalioth> aftertaf: howdy
[04:29] <aftertaf> see you all later... my workday is done and dusted :)
[04:29] <aitabdel> can any one tell me how to configure proxy squid in ubuntu
[04:30] <nalioth> apoZ`: keep it in -offtopic, please
[04:30] <rob^lt> kuangyujing, just do: sudo apt-get install acroread
[04:30] <Knorrie> aitabdel: perhaps here's a start: http://workaround.org/moin/Welcome
[04:31] <aitabdel> thanks
[04:31] <kuangyujing> ok, thanks! I try.
[04:31] <kuangyujing> And Bye :)
[04:34] <aitabdel> knorrie you are from where
[04:34] <helpme> !info ncbi-tools-x11
[04:34] <ubotu> ncbi-tools-x11: (NCBI libraries for biology applications (X-based utilities)), section universe/science, is extra. Version: 6.1.20041020-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 788 kB, Installed size: 1672 kB
[04:34] <ThomasM> !info cone
[04:34] <aitabdel> knorries are you from?
[04:34] <helpme> !info clustalx
[04:34] <ubotu> clustalx: ([Biology]  GUI for clustalw), section multiverse/science, is optional. Version: 1.83-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 210 kB, Installed size: 640 kB
[04:34] <vengeful> anyone else had a problem with the latest vlc update?
[04:35] <apokryphos> helpme: please do *not* investigate in the channel, as I've told you already. :)
[04:35] <pgregory> hi, can anyone here tell me what build number of OOo2.0 is on the 5.10 preview?
[04:35] <bpf> ok, I upgraded from hoary to breezy yesterday and things seem to be working. I now have a Debian menu right under Accessories, is that normal and what the rest of you see on breezy?
[04:36] <helpme> apokryphos: u r here too:( i cant seem to do it any other way...ubotu say private msgs are blocked....
[04:36] <tony_the_cable_g> How do I reset the root password?
[04:36] <apokryphos> helpme: register your nick then
[04:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tony_the_cable_g about root
[04:37] <helpme> apokryphos: how to do that?? plz guide
[04:37] <nalioth> helpme: register yourself
[04:37] <tony_the_cable_g> Thank you Nalioth
[04:37] <nalioth> helpme: /msg nickserv help register
[04:37] <apokryphos> helpme: /msg chanserv register PASSWORD
[04:37] <helpme> thanx
[04:37] <helpme> ive to go now anyway....goodnight to all:)
[04:37] <nalioth> apokryphos: time for a beer?
[04:38] <apokryphos> nalioth: yes please
[04:39] <vengeful> n/m another update fixed it hehe
[04:39] <DazeD||lap> is there a partitioner built into breezy or should i download one?
[04:40] <tritium> there is one, DazeD||lap
[04:40] <tritium> morning, apokryphos, nalioth
[04:40] <apokryphos> moin moin
[04:40] <thoreauputic> hi tritium :)
[04:41] <DazeD||lap> tritium, whats it called so i can find it?
[04:41] <tritium> DazeD||lap: are you going to use the installer, or upgrade from hoary?
[04:42] <nalioth> howdy tritium
[04:42] <DazeD||lap> tritium, im on breezy i need to make another partition...is there like a partition magic or is qt partition built in is what im saying?
[04:42] <tritium> DazeD||lap: there is qtparted
[04:42] <rob^lt> just install qtparted
[04:42] <DazeD||lap> ahhh sweet thank you
[04:42] <tritium> gparted also, DazeD||lap
[04:43] <thoreauputic> or gparted
[04:43] <tritium> ;)
[04:43] <KenSentMe> !info clustalx
[04:43] <ubotu> clustalx: ([Biology]  GUI for clustalw), section multiverse/science, is optional. Version: 1.83-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 210 kB, Installed size: 640 kB
[04:44] <ll_> so, hey, I'm on breezy and I'm having trouble with openoffice/vlc/mplayer segfaulting
[04:44] <DazeD||lap> tritium, ahh thanks a bunch i didnt know if it was just the live disc...i can install windows after linux as long as i reinstall the grub with a live cd correct?
[04:44] <foxgamer> Yes! I have my printer, and it's working fine :)
[04:44] <KenSentMe> when i try to do this in a private conversation with ubotu he doen't give me an answer
[04:44] <ll_> from the strace output the all die soon after opening /dev/zero
[04:44] <ll_> is this a known issue?
[04:44] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: have you  registered your nick?
[04:45] <nalioth> KenSentMe: use packages.ubuntu.com for your searching please
[04:45] <KenSentMe> yes
[04:45] <tritium> DazeD||lap: yes.  /msg ubotu intsall for wiki pages regarding various installation methods
[04:45] <tritium> install even
[04:45] <DazeD||lap> thanks
[04:45] <KenSentMe> nalioth: i knew about that, but was wondering how ubotu would work
[04:45] <nalioth> KenSentMe: when you speak with ubotu in PM, dont use !
[04:46] <KenSentMe> nalioth: ah, k
[04:47] <KenSentMe> nalioth: indeed this works better
[04:47] <vishoek> I am so new to Ubuntu I feel really stupid, can someone help me load printer drivers and set up an internet connection and network?
[04:48] <apoZ`> vishoek, pm me
[04:48] <vishoek> ? pm
[04:48] <vishoek> i am really green
[04:48] <bones> nalioth, how about the internet first?
[04:49] <KenSentMe> pm = private message
[04:49] <vishoek> how do i do that?
[04:49] <occy> Is Breezy out yet!
[04:49] <occy> ;)
[04:49] <apoZ`> vishoek, see other tabs, underneath your type bar
[04:50] <bones> do you have a modem or cable modem?
[04:50] <KenSentMe> occy: funny
[04:50] <occy> KenSentMe, ;)
[04:50] <KenSentMe> occy:D
[04:50] <occy> couldn't resist
[04:50] <occy> it's like Christmas!
[04:50] <ll_> I updated to breezy and everything was fine.  A few days later I ran an update and immediately the following applications started segfaulting on startup: openoffice, vlc, mplayer.  running strace <app> showed that they were all dying soon after opening /dev/zero.  Now running ldconfig shows 5 warnings about "libpostfix-* is not a symlink.  Any clues on this?
[04:50] <KenSentMe> occy: me 2
[04:50] <vishoek> none that I can see
[04:50] <apoZ`> Yes there is :)
[04:51] <zoot_> hi, is there a way to specify where nautilus stores temporary iso's when burning cd/dvd? (eg. if /tmp is too small for a dvd iso)
[04:51] <bones> is there a plug for a phone line in the back of the machine?
[04:52] <johnsie2k> Hi.. I'm having a promblem with mplayer pluguin for mozilla... it skips a lot
[04:52] <nalioth> bones: internet first what?
[04:52] <mgk> It possible to connect to a 2003 server via smb?
[04:53] <vishoek> I have a netgear dg834gt uk wireless adsl modem
[04:53] <rawiramdhan> what is a good program to copy dvd's
[04:54] <DazeD||lap> where is the location of gparted / or qtparted so i can run it from grub?
[04:55] <ll_> mgk: connect how?  to a shared folder?
[04:55] <vengeful> vishoek, what wireless device do you have?
[04:55] <mgk> yea
[04:55] <rawiramdhan> what is a good program to copy dvd's
[04:55] <vengeful> the router shouldnt matter..if its already setup. I have a similar model
[04:56] <vishoek> I have a netgear dg834gt uk wireless adsl modem
[04:56] <mgk> keeps prompting me for domain login i enter it and it just kicks me back
[04:56] <vengeful> yes but what wireless card do you have
[04:56] <apoZ`> vishoek, Seen your nickname your system is probably dutch ?
[04:56] <occy> rawiramdhan, good question.
[04:56] <occy> rawiramdhan, but don't repeat it please.
[04:56] <vengeful> are you using the wirelessw or just plugging into lan?
[04:56] <selinium> vishoek, nice
[04:57] <vishoek> no i am in south africa, cape town
[04:57] <ll_> mgk: go to places>connect to server
[04:57] <vishoek> using wireless, pci card
[04:57] <ll_> its on the top menu bar
[04:57] <rawiramdhan> occy: Some ppl joined after my question may-b 1 of them knew.
[04:57] <apoZ`> vishoek, We speak kind the same language :)
[04:57] <vengeful> ok i take it you have the router connected to the phone line
[04:57] <vengeful> right?
[04:57] <occy> rawiramdhan, heh, still, there are 597 peple in here...
[04:57] <occy> rawiramdhan, you don't need to repeat.
[04:57] <ll_> mgk: the server you're trying to access is on a domain, correct?
[04:58] <occy> rawiramdhan, I would like to know how to do that under Linux too.
[04:58] <nalioth> rawiramdhan: a good rule of thumb. wait 5 minutes between the same question
[04:58] <selinium> vengeful, if you have any probs, i have the same box
[04:58] <mgk> yes
[04:58] <vengeful> sorry?
[04:58] <mgk> hah that worked
[04:58] <rawiramdhan> nalioth: owke..
[04:59] <vishoek> how do i register my nick?
[04:59] <mgk> thanks
[04:59] <nalioth> vishoek: /msg nickserv help register
[04:59] <kemik> vishoek:  msg nickserv help
[04:59] <vengeful> gah firget the nick,..lets get the router working
[04:59] <axeus> I'm having trouble connecting to the wireless at College.
[04:59] <vengeful> axeus
[04:59] <vishoek> ok, what do i do to get the router working?
[04:59] <vengeful> what are you using?
[04:59] <axeus> It's WPA encrypted, so I just try to set the key as ASCII with the key goflupadups
[05:00] <axeus> ifup/ifdown
[05:00] <vengeful> vishoek, have you got the router plugged into the phone line?
[05:00] <ll_> had anyone had trouble with openoffice/vlc/mplayer segfaulting at startup on breezy?  If so I'd be interested to hear about it
[05:00] <axeus> setting /etc/net/interfaces
[05:00] <axeus> then using ifup/ifdown
[05:00] <selinium> vengeful, if you have any probs, i have the same wireless router
[05:00] <axeus> I just say
[05:00] <vishoek> netgear wireless 834 gt adsl
[05:00] <vengeful> yeh ubuntu doesnt have wpa out of the box
[05:00] <vengeful> anyone got a link for him?
[05:00] <axeus> Crap. :)
[05:00] <vengeful> actually i think i have the link
[05:00] <vishoek> the router is plugged in
[05:00] <kevor> Arg, there are bugs in the version of Gaim that comes with Breezy
[05:01] <axeus> Cool @ Vengeful.
[05:01] <JazzCrazed> mornin
[05:01] <vengeful> axeus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto?highlight=%28wpa%29
[05:01] <vengeful> try that
[05:01] <johnsie2k> Anyone know how to stop mplayer- mozilla plugin from skipping?
[05:01] <vengeful> vishoek, have you started to config it yet?
[05:02] <axeus> Thanks. :)
[05:02] <axeus> Vengeful.
[05:02] <vengeful> axeus i have not tried it yet...im still using wep..let me know how it goes
[05:02] <JazzCrazed> might ne1 answer this stupid question: when mounting a network share via the places menu, how do i navigate to it in a save/open dialog?
[05:02] <axeus> Ok.
[05:02] <apoZ`> Question : Does anyone know how to connect my syncstation for my mobile with my pc ?
[05:04] <eazel7> hi ppl
[05:04] <rawiramdhan> what is a good program to copy dvd's?
[05:04] <eazel7> I'm having a simple but disturbing trouble
[05:04] <flagfranca> hello all
[05:05] <Flendor> Hello
[05:05] <eazel7> there's invalid utf somewhere in the configuration, and I must change my username info to something else
[05:05] <flagfranca> where I can find W32 videocodecs and how I install them in Ubuntu?
[05:05] <ll_> rawiramdhan: I use burn, its in apt.  I don't write DVDs, however
[05:05] <eazel7> how can I (through console) change my user details?
[05:05] <JazzCrazed> ne1 kno how to navigate to a mounted windows share in a save/open dialog?
[05:06] <Bad_Magic> flagfranca: sudo apt-get w32codecs
[05:06] <Bad_Magic> i believe
[05:06] <apokryphos> nope; it's not in the repositories
[05:06] <JazzCrazed> i've mounted one via the places menu, and it shows up in my desktop, but i am unable to find it in a save/open dialog in applications (such as writer)
[05:06] <Bad_Magic> i could have sworn it was
[05:06] <Bad_Magic> not the default ones, but universe
[05:06] <apokryphos> long ago, yes
[05:06] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[05:06] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[05:07] <Bad_Magic> when did they remove it?
[05:07] <Ng> wtd
[05:07] <Bad_Magic> i just installed them like 2 months ago, i think
[05:08] <TiMiDo> Cool Bad_Magic
[05:08] <nalioth> Bad_Magic: it has been w/i that time
[05:08] <vengeful> lol
[05:08] <vengeful> that was a good guess nalioth
[05:09] <vengeful> :-D
[05:09] <JazzCrazed> bad_magic: they took it down recently due to legal issues
[05:09] <JazzCrazed> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74622&highlight=w32codecs
[05:09] <flagfranca> yesterday I experienced a major system crash after the installation of GTKLib and a disk defragmenter for Linux....I rebooted the machine and the GNOME GUI wasnt able to start anymore, leaving me stuck in a command line environment....What happened cause I had to reinstall the entire system again....Is there a way to backup a functional Ubuntu installation or do some kind of a "system recover"?
[05:09] <rawiramdhan> what is a good program to copy dvd's?
[05:10] <Ng> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ is the best place to get w32codecs packages
[05:10] <JazzCrazed> rawiramdhan: have u tried gnome bake?
[05:10] <Ng> not some random URL in ubotu :/
[05:10] <apokryphos> Ng: why?
[05:10] <rawiramdhan> JazzCrazed: No I will, thanx:D
[05:10] <Ng> apokryphos: do you know who's site those tinyurl links go to? I don't, who is it? are they reliable? will they keep them updated? are they safe? etc.
[05:10] <apokryphos> Ng: the one provided is perfectly fine, and the packages provided are the same ones that were in hoary-extras, and multiverse before that.
[05:11] <JazzCrazed> raw: i haven't used it for dvds nor for copying for that matter, but it seems fairly capable
[05:11] <apokryphos> Ng: yes to all of those
[05:11] <Ng> apokryphos: where do I report bugs with them? etc.
[05:11] <Ng> apokryphos: do they have an apt source?
[05:11] <Ng> etc etc. it's just more duplication for no benefit imo
[05:11] <apokryphos> no apt source, no apt repo
[05:11] <wolf1> hi, how can i prevent a user to access directories of another user.
[05:12] <apokryphos> Ng: the reason marillat isn't used is that you shouldn't *in general* have it enabled at all
[05:12] <apokryphos> Ng: many cases of broken systems; ubuntu varies too much from debian as it is
[05:12] <Ng> apokryphos: I agree, but if whoever's that site is isn't going to run an source, why not just lift the package from the url I gave and not bother remaking/redistributing it?
[05:13] <flagfranca> Is there a way to perform a system recover in Ubuntu when a system crash happens?
[05:13] <nalioth> Ng: get the files straight from www.mplayerhq.hu on the download page
[05:13] <apokryphos> Ng: believe it or not, there's really nothing to it -- the deb just contains the plain codecs and puts them in a folder
[05:13] <vishoek> i am on the web on my laptop at the moment, just loaded ubuntu onto my pc,
[05:14] <Ng> flagfranca: ext3 filesystems should repair themselves when you reboot
[05:14] <Ng> nalioth: do they ship a .deb? if so, sure
[05:14] <Ng> apokryphos: I know, which is my entire point!
[05:14] <nalioth> Ng: the files are hosted in debs, b/c some people cant use the archive from mplayer
[05:14] <Ng> you guys are missing my point
[05:14] <nalioth> Ng: they come in a folder. you put them where they belong
[05:14] <apokryphos> and because debs are so much simpler
[05:14] <aitabdel> were to download squid package
[05:14] <nalioth> aitabdel: use synaptic
[05:14] <Ng> nalioth: please stop explaining that to me, I know what w32codecs is
[05:15] <apokryphos> not missing the point; you think that it's a huge advantage to have the bug-reporting and deb-src for w32codecs
[05:15] <apokryphos> which I find... suffice it to say, pretty strange
[05:15] <kemik> uhm... w32codecs isin extras
[05:15] <ccfiel> hello ppl
[05:15] <nalioth> Ng: there is no source for w32codecs
[05:15] <apokryphos> kemik: yes, we know 8)
[05:15] <Ng> I think it's a huge disadvantage to have lots of repositories, especially ones with no contact details or suchlike
[05:15] <nalioth> kemik: they are not
[05:15] <ccfiel> im using xfce for my windows manager. how do i add a printer?
[05:15] <vishoek> i am lost vengeful
[05:15] <Ng> nalioth: I know
[05:15] <apokryphos> Ng: so voila! We don't recommend you add another repo
[05:15] <kemik> [kemik@edge ~]  apt-cache search w32codecs
[05:15] <kemik> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[05:15] <kemik> sorry about the paste ;) but i had to
[05:16] <Ng> apokryphos: you recommend some random url instead of a maintained repository? err ;)
[05:16] <nalioth> Ng: it is not a randome URL, heh
[05:16] <Ng> nalioth: sure it is
[05:16] <apokryphos> Ng: the "random url" contains the same packages the actual Ubuntu repositories used
[05:16] <flagfranca> Ng: yesterday it didnt happen....the system returned, yes, but in command line mode and the GNOME interface wasnt available anymore....why?
[05:16] <nalioth> Ng: it is not. you are speaking to the owner now
[05:16] <Ng> flagfranca: did you get any errors?
[05:16] <JazzCrazed> i've mounted a couple of windows shares via Places->Connect to Server, and I'm trying to open files from it in inkscape, but i can't seem to find out how to navigate to the shares via the open dialog... any suggestions?
[05:16] <apokryphos> Ng: and suffice it to say shipping w32codecs has obvious legal problems
[05:16] <Ng> nalioth: I figured as much, but I had to guess that
[05:17] <twibbler> I would just like to say. Breezy is looking really really good .....
[05:17] <nalioth> Ng: we do not recommend 'random" anything here
[05:17] <Bad_Magic> thats what ill do before school
[05:17] <Bad_Magic> breezy update
[05:17] <Bad_Magic> =0
[05:17] <kemik> i dont see what the fuss is about the stuff is in extras
[05:17] <kemik> fuzz?
[05:17] <kemik> fuss?
[05:17] <Bad_Magic> brb booting mr ubuntu
[05:17] <Ng> nalioth: how many different -extra, -backports, java, w32codecs, etc. repositories have appeared and disappeared in the hoary lifecycle? ok not as many as, say, fedora, but still too many
[05:17] <flagfranca> Ng: yeah...after the installation of GTK and a diskdefrag utility, when the sys returned in command line mode, there was some errors related to dev or hdc mounting problems and root problems
[05:18] <nalioth> Ng: be flexible. things change
[05:18] <apokryphos> Ng: there's valid reasons for practically all of those. If you knew them, I doubt you'd be complaining really
[05:18] <Ng> nalioth: I am flexible, I can make debian/ubuntu packages just fine, I am looking at this from the pov of a new user to whom words like "repository", "deb" and so on mean nothing. Instilling into them that it's ok to just download a .deb someone gives you a URL to, doesn't seem helpful for users who don't already know better
[05:19] <xxtreme> C-n
[05:19] <thoreauputic> Ng: what solution do you suggest for people who want legally iffy packages then?
[05:19] <wolf1> hi could someone assist me please.  how can i prevent a user to access another user's directories.
[05:20] <Ng> thoreauputic: a single, trusted repository in a country where they are legal would be ideal, something like non-US really
[05:21] <ccfiel> im using xfce for my windows manager. how do i add a printer?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Ng: I see - yes , sounds reasonable but would need some consensus I guess
[05:21] <Ng> flagfranca: does it boot as far as a login?
[05:21] <nalioth> Ng: the server is in a non-US country
[05:21] <Bad_Magic> !breezy
[05:21] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:21] <Ng> thoreauputic: indeed, if not tacit approval from ubuntu, which would be hard because it goes against their principles to some extent
[05:21] <nalioth> Ng: the powers that be do not want 'legally iffy' stuff directly associated with them
[05:22] <vengeful> cant blame em for that ;-)
[05:22] <zoot_> hi, is there a way to specify where nautilus stores temporary iso's when duplicating cd/dvd? ie when you right-click on a cd and choose copy disc (eg. if /tmp is too small for a dvd iso) - other burners can copy on the fly? even with a separate reader and writer, nautilus creates an image on disk first?? not very efficient
[05:22] <thoreauputic> Ng: not just principles - they have to be careful about legalities too - hence the state of flux of backports/extras
[05:22] <Ng> nalioth: of course, I catagorically do not want Ubuntu to sell out their principles for the convenience of shipping java :)
[05:22] <kemik> is there any legal mumbojumbo about VLC?
[05:22] <kemik> if not, why not use VLC instead of totem and all is well ? :)
[05:22] <Ng> kemik: if it includes patent encumbered en/decoders, yes
[05:23] <Ng> flagfranca: does your machine boot as far as a text login?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> kemik: vlc is very good, but still lacks some codecs
[05:23] <kemik> it's illegal to decode stuff that's been patented.. ? ( i mean if i come up with my own decoding scheme?)
[05:23] <kemik> thoreauputic:  totem lacks all of them ;)
[05:23] <thoreauputic> kemik: that's being worked on
[05:23] <Ng> kemik: there are various legal issues involved, it may be that a patent prevents a Free version, which stops it being in Ubuntu, it may also be that the codecs are being distributed outside of their license agreement
[05:24] <kemik> yeah.. im sure.. but vlc is way ahead, and being worked on
[05:24] <thoreauputic> kemik: it's  a catch-up game though, like free java
[05:24] <flagfranca> Ng: not exactly...It begins with some text messages then jumps to the ubuntu splash screen
[05:24] <Bad_Magic> hmm
[05:24] <Ng> kemik: e.g. I bet most of the codecs in w32codecs say "not for redistribution" (or similar) in their EULA
[05:24] <basti__> If I set up a share in Samba do I need to create a new user to access the share?
[05:24] <Bad_Magic> anyone have a known to be valid breezy sources.list?
[05:24] <kemik> Ng:  yeah probably.. but in VLC, afaik they dont use w32codecs but 'their own shit' ... that wouldbe legal tho ?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !sources
[05:24] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:25] <picasso> is breezy the new one
[05:25] <noirequus> picasso: yes it is
[05:25] <noirequus> cyl
[05:25] <Ng> kemik: possibly, the patents could still prevent it though. You'd need to consult a lawyer to get a valid answer really
[05:25] <picasso> sweet so i can switch out my sources.lst and upgrade right now?
[05:26] <noirequus> ubotu: tell picasso about upgrade2breezy
[05:26] <picasso> gracias
[05:27] <kemik> should i report that Rhythmbox.0.9.0 depends on totem-xine|totem-gstreamer as a bug to the maintainer ?
[05:27] <ccfiel> hello ppl
[05:27] <kemik> it's so not-right to make that dependency. imo it bloats the pacakge
[05:27] <Bad_Magic> and away breezy goes
[05:27] <kemik> *package
[05:27] <ccfiel> who is using here xfce window manager?
[05:28] <vengeful> me
[05:29] <ccfiel> vengeful: how do i add printer in xfce?
[05:29] <florian___> hi, how to exclude multiple files from tarring an archive?
[05:29] <vengeful> never said i had a printer
[05:29] <vengeful> which i dont heh
[05:29] <Ashims> yo... anyone got any idea how to get cdfs working in breezy?
[05:29] <ccfiel> i have successfully added a printer in gnome. but in xfce i connot find any
[05:29] <picasso> why does the topic say breezy isnt out yet?
[05:30] <ompaul> picasso, cos it is not released yet?
[05:30] <Pygi> :D
[05:30] <thoreauputic> picasso: because it isn't the 13th every where yet?
[05:30] <apoZ`> Any good translate programs ????
[05:30] <picasso> oh
[05:30] <cybermike> How do i install libdvdcs on ubuntu?
[05:30] <Bad_Magic> semantics
[05:30] <Ashims> anyone know how to get cdfs working at all?
[05:30] <picasso> heh i dono
[05:30] <picasso> but i can apt-get dist-upgrade and upgrade my system?
[05:30] <Bad_Magic> download it anyway, worst case you get a couple patches tomorrow
[05:30] <kemik> !tell cybermike about restricted
[05:30] <Bad_Magic> =P
[05:30] <Bad_Magic> picasso: im doing it right now
[05:30] <ompaul> thoreauputic, is it tomorrow with you yet?
[05:31] <mbirkis> how long time will it go before hoary is unmaintained after breezy is released?
[05:31] <picasso> 856 upgraded, 283 newly installed, 37 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: no from where I sit it's today ;P
[05:31] <ricardo> buenos dias
[05:31] <Bad_Magic> i think its 18 months mbirkis
[05:31] <picasso> that's a lot of packages :P
[05:31] <ompaul> haha :)
[05:31] <mbirkis> Bad_Magic: thnx
[05:31] <ricardo> uy sorry
[05:31] <thoreauputic> Thu Oct 13 01:31:25 EST 2005
[05:31] <Pygi> I think 12 months....6 months passed :P
[05:31] <thoreauputic> :D
[05:31] <ricardo> XD
[05:31] <Bad_Magic> either way
[05:31] <johnsie2k> Anyone know how to stop the Mplayer browser plugin from skipping?
[05:31] <ompaul> ahh so it is tomorrow :)  Wed Oct 12 16:31:49 IST 2005
[05:31] <Bad_Magic> no worries
[05:31] <Bad_Magic> =P
[05:32] <Ashims> anyone know what this means "insmod: error inserting 'cdfs.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module"
[05:32] <prower> I assume Breezy's ISO and the repository packages wil lcome out at the same time :>
[05:32] <DazeD_> hey how come i cant resize my linux partition and/or make a new partition?
[05:32] <apoZ`> Any good translate programs ???? Dutch to french
[05:32] <apoZ`> Any good translate programs ???? Dutch to french
[05:32] <DazeD_> do i have to do it from a live disc?
[05:32] <Bad_Magic> why cant you dazed?
[05:32] <DazeD_> it wont letme
[05:32] <Bad_Magic> i would assume you just run qparted as root
[05:32] <cybermike> kemik: thanks
[05:33] <ompaul> prower the repo stuff will be used to make the disk
[05:33] <Pygi> apoZ...I would suggest google :P
[05:33] <DazeD_> Bad_Magic, i did
[05:33] <flagfranca> ibrasil: teclas de onde, meu irmo?
[05:33] <Bad_Magic> you sure you ran as root/sudo ?
[05:33] <ibrasil> flagfranca, erechim - RS
[05:33] <prower> ompaul: Ahh, okay...I figured the ones in the repository would still be RC1
[05:33] <DazeD_> Bad_Magic, yes im sure
[05:33] <prower> (At this time)
[05:33] <Bad_Magic> then i have no idea =x
[05:33] <flagfranca> ibrasil: So Paulo / SP
[05:34] <flagfranca> ibrasil: usa h muito tempo o ubuntu....pq eu estou apanhando aqui ;)
[05:34] <DazeD_> i bet i have to run it from a live disc
[05:34] <Bad_Magic> holy crap long breezy download
[05:34] <JazzCrazed> does anybody here use their ubuntu box to access shares on a windows 2000 server machine?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !br
[05:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:34] <ibrasil> flagfranca, uma semana apenas
[05:34] <chrisx1> hey
[05:34] <chrisx1> any1 here?
[05:34] <Bad_Magic> plenty of people here
[05:34] <Bad_Magic> sup
[05:34] <chrisx1> kk
[05:35] <chrisx1> how do i start ssh server?
[05:35] <Bad_Magic> sshd
[05:35] <chrisx1> like everythime it boots?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> chrisx1: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:35] <Bad_Magic> assuming you have installed it
[05:35] <Bad_Magic> it should be started every boot if its in init.d
[05:35] <thoreauputic> chrisx1: it does that anyway on boot
[05:35] <chrisx1> kk sec
[05:35] <thoreauputic> chrisx1: install openssh-server
[05:36] <chrisx1> i sm
[05:36] <chrisx1> *am
[05:36] <apoZ`> JazzCrazed, I use ubuntu to acces shares on XP
[05:36] <chrisx1> this is based off debian?
[05:36] <spiral> hi
[05:36] <Bad_Magic>  ubuntu? yes
[05:36] <Pygi> yes :P
[05:36] <chrisx1> thought so
[05:37] <chrisx1> i installed it
[05:37] <apoZ`> Q : any good translation programs ???
[05:37] <Pygi> I am going to try portage on ubuntu tho :P
[05:37] <Bad_Magic> it should be running
[05:37] <JazzCrazed> apoZ: i've mounted a couple via the places menu
[05:37] <chrisx1> failed to start
[05:37] <JazzCrazed> and can see them on the desktop
[05:37] <JazzCrazed> but i cannot locate them in open/save dialogs in apps
[05:37] <apoZ`> Impossible :)
[05:37] <apoZ`> my problem to
[05:37] <apoZ`> for what ap ?
[05:37] <JazzCrazed> so far, inkscape, and writer
[05:37] <Pygi> what is impossible?
[05:37] <usuario_> someone how can i pass the mail configuration of evolution and her mail to another user?
[05:37] <JazzCrazed> tho i presume they both use the same gnome open/save dialog
[05:38] <JazzCrazed> pygi: access windows shares mounted via the places menu in open/save dialogs
[05:38] <apoZ`> It's weird
[05:38] <chrisx1> sec started now ta
[05:38] <Pygi> oh
[05:38] <apoZ`> JazzCrazed, if you find it, tell me please :)
[05:38] <JazzCrazed> i also tried adding it to my fstab per ubuntuguide.org
[05:38] <JazzCrazed> but i get a wrong file system type error
[05:39] <JazzCrazed> apoz: gladly :)
[05:39] <ricardo> can any say if whe i install a virtual machine like vmware over windows, and i install a distro , can i make a partition with cylinders?
[05:39] <Crys_Win> Dudes, this sucks.
[05:39] <sekunde1> hi! just one stupid question. I'm runing glxgears and demo is running but where is framerate?
[05:39] <Ng> sekunde1: breezy?
[05:39] <selinium> apoZ`, So you are back then!!
[05:40] <Crys_Win> I'm havng trouble getting grub to install.
[05:40] <sekunde1> Ng*
[05:40] <sekunde1> Ng?
[05:40] <Ng> sekunde1: are you running breezy or hoary?
[05:40] <sekunde1> 5.10
[05:40] <sekunde1> the latest preview
[05:40] <bpf> sekunde1, you need to pass in a parameter. i can't remember it offhand because it is rediculously long and silly
[05:40] <Bad_Magic> sekundel: it should output it in the terminal
[05:40] <Ng> sekunde1: ok, that's breezy. I think the glxgears there is not outputting the fps by default anymore
[05:40] <Ng> although the update this morning indicated it was back in
[05:40] <Bad_Magic> ah hah!
[05:40] <Bad_Magic> =x
[05:41] <sekunde1> hm so that's the problem
[05:41] <sekunde1> cause I does not output anything
[05:41] <Ng> yeah
[05:41] <Ng> mine also runs incredibly slowly ;)
[05:41] <sekunde1> maybe anyone know this parameter
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Ng: try something like glxgears --Iacknowledgethisnotabenchmark
[05:41] <bpf> that sounds about right
[05:41] <bipolar> sekunde1, it's something like... yeah... what thoreauputic said
[05:41] <thoreauputic> forget the exact wording *g*
[05:41] <Ng> thoreauputic: haha, that's fantastic ;)
[05:42] <thoreauputic> :D
[05:42] <basti__> Is there any gui where I can configure users for the smb share?
[05:42] <dockane> hi all
[05:42] <sekunde1> nice joke
[05:42] <Ng> it's almost like jwz writes glxgears ;)
[05:43] <sekunde1> ok now anybody know because there's no man at all
[05:43] <sekunde1> the onyl parameter is -info
[05:43] <Ng> cmsj@chris:~ $ strings `which glxgears` | grep bench
[05:43] <Ng> -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[05:43] <Ng> :)
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Ng: nicely done :) Good tip
[05:44] <bpf> running glxgears on breezy, i get this error and no output:
[05:44] <Bad_Magic> lol
[05:44] <bpf> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[05:44] <syli725> hi, i get this in the partitioning of installation process. input/ouput error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. what to do? safe to ignore? or i won't be able to install.
[05:44] <occy> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/30083-ubuntu-8.png  <-- wow, super cool Ubuntu background
[05:44] <Ng> thoreauputic: :)
[05:46] <andril> hello all
[05:46] <sekunde1> ok i found it
[05:46] <sekunde1> but fps i kinda slow
[05:46] <sekunde1> 500fps
[05:46] <Navyshark> Help! I have now downloaded opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb how do i install it?
[05:47] <vengeful> why the hell would you
[05:47] <deFrysk> sudo dpkg -i
[05:47] <Ng> sekunde1: mine is running very slow too, I think they've done it deliberately to stop people using it to test their speed
[05:47] <vengeful> apt_get  , synaptic?
[05:47] <syli725> hi, i get this in the partitioning of installation process. input/ouput error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. what to do? safe to ignore? or i won't be able to install.
[05:47] <deFrysk> Navyshark, sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:47] <syli725> My another computer is still waiting for an answer. thanks.
[05:47] <sekunde1> Ng ;)
[05:48] <sekunde1> I gues I should try some game to test
[05:48] <thoreauputic> syli725: I/O errors often indicate a hardware problem IIRC
[05:48] <syli725> thoreauputic, yeah, i think that is hardware problem too. so what to do?
[05:48] <DazeD||lap> so why cant i make or adjust my linux partition ... do i need to do on a live disc?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> syli725: umm... buy a new disc?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> syli725: or check it for badblocks
[05:49] <thoreauputic> syli725: man fdisk ?
[05:49] <syli725> thoreauputic, i am in the middle of installation ubuntu processs. what to do now? just cancel the installation process?
[05:50] <bpf> where do I find what graphics card I have installed?
[05:50] <DazeD||lap> anyone?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> syli725: why? If it installs OK you are probably alright
[05:50] <bpf> xorg.conf?
[05:50] <syli725> thoreauputic, i got that error. asked me "Retry, Ignore, Cancel" . what to do?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> syli725: if not, maybe a new disc is indicated
[05:50] <syli725> thoreauputic, retry doesn't work.
[05:50] <thoreauputic> syli725: I would retry,
[05:50] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:50] <bpf> nm, got it
[05:51] <thoreauputic> try ignore and pray a lot I guess
[05:51] <deFrysk> syli725, try installing again ignore never works
[05:52] <Sarkie> installed Jsdk but Java command is still "gij",
[05:52] <Sarkie> ??
[05:52] <deFrysk> gij ?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Sarkie: is the new one linked in your $PATH ?
[05:52] <tony_the_cable_g> How do I get rid of Totem as my default player and apply MPlayer as default?
[05:52] <DazeD||lap> to adjust my linux partition ... do i need to do it from a live disc?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: free java = gij etc
[05:52] <Sarkie> woulndt the deb have done that
[05:52] <Sarkie> ?
[05:52] <syli725> deFrysk, thanks. it gave me some instructions. but that doesn't really help. but whateve.r
[05:53] <pmj> hi want to install w32codecs but i see them as a virtual package, how could i do to install 'em?
[05:53] <deFrysk> syli725, missing deps ?
[05:53] <apoZ`> Help : I need a translation program : Dutch - French
[05:53] <Bad_Magic> !w32codecs
[05:53] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[05:53] <Sarkie> thoreauputic, how I do that please?
[05:53] <deFrysk> Navyshark, please dont private
[05:53] <pmj> ubotu: thanx
[05:53] <ubotu> pmj: bitte
[05:53] <apoZ`> Repeat : Help : I need a translation program : Dutch - French
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Sarkie: do you know howto make a symlink?  sudo ln -s /existing/path /path/to/link
[05:54] <syli725> deFrysk, what do you mean? i think i will run some partition tool to scan my current partition then.
[05:54] <DazeD||lap> so does no one listen anymore?
[05:54] <apokryphos> apoZ`: quit flooding
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Sarkie: echo $PATH to see what your path is
[05:54] <deFrysk> syli725, i did not advise you on partitioning ?
[05:54] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: I think he installed the .deb
[05:54] <Sarkie> I did apokryphos
[05:55] <Sarkie> my paths aer /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[05:55] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: ah, that's different - wouldn't that be in the PATH ?
[05:55] <apokryphos> make what in the path though?
[05:55] <syli725> deFrysk, yeah, i am on the partitioning. it told me some partition overlapped with WINNT.... i am going to abort the installation and use some other tool to partition it
[05:55] <Navyshark> defrysk, I got this msg root@Servar:~ # sudo dpkg -i opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb i
[05:55] <Navyshark> dpkg: error processing opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb (--install):
[05:55] <Navyshark>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:55] <Navyshark> dpkg: error processing i (--install):
[05:55] <Navyshark>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:55] <Navyshark> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:55] <Navyshark>  opera_9.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[05:55] <apokryphos> Sarkie: I presume you also want the j2re -- did you install it
[05:55] <thoreauputic> Sarkie: what command are you running that defaults to gij?
[05:56] <Bad_Magic> oh boy new x
[05:56] <Bad_Magic> new gnome
[05:56] <Bad_Magic> oh boy
[05:56] <Bad_Magic> =x
[05:56] <Sarkie> shouldnt jdk come with java, Im running "java" as in to run my class programs
[05:56] <Phil197> hello again
[05:56] <DazeD||lap> CAN anyone HELP me with partitioning???
[05:56] <Sarkie> sorry if its different
[05:56] <apokryphos> Sarkie: install the j2re and the jdk
[05:56] <Phil197> did someone install wine on his ubuntu distro?
[05:56] <Sarkie> hmm
[05:56] <M3ocs-D4rksun> hi everypeople who use ubuntu
[05:56] <Bad_Magic> !java
[05:56] <ubotu> I guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[05:56] <Crys_Win> Hey, does anyone have default booting from grub?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> DazeD||lap: ask specific questions, don't just whinge
[05:56] <Crys_Win> hoary I mean
[05:57] <tony_the_cable_g>  How do I get rid of Totem as my default player and apply MPlayer as default? Thank you.
[05:57] <Crys_Win> Does anyone have hoary 5.04 booting from grub with the default install?
[05:57] <chrisx1> Can i Ask What XDMCP is?
[05:57] <DazeD||lap> thoreauputic, i have been asking for about 10 minutes no ones paying attention...i try to partition using qtparted and gparted and they both wont let me resize my linux partition even under root do i need to use  a live cd so the partition is not mounted
[05:57] <thoreauputic> tony_the_cable_g: you can define default apps in the right click menu for a file under properties
[05:57] <Sarkie> thanx apokryphos and thoreauputic, just in my win install, jdk installs java as defualt
[05:57] <deFrysk> tony_the_cable_g, rightklick <thefile> go to properties and set it to run to whatever app you wish
[05:58] <Crys_Win> I DazeD||lapI have never been able to resize a partition.
[05:58] <deFrysk> tony_the_cable_g, in nautilus that is
[05:58] <ccfiel> hello ppl
[05:58] <DazeD||lap> Crys_Win, so what do you do...how do u add a partition?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> DazeD||lap: did it occur to you that no one might be ble to help at the moment? 10 minutes is not long
[05:58] <Sarkie> should my paths be like, multiple entries?? and none point to java lib address?
[05:58] <Crys_Win> DazeD||lap: I make sure to have extra space.
[05:59] <ccfiel> how do i run nuetilus without desktop. i want to used it as file manger in my xfce
[05:59] <thoreauputic> ccfiel:  nautilus --no-desktop
[05:59] <DazeD||lap> Crys_Win, thats horrible...so im screwed since i didn't leave extra space??
[05:59] <deFrysk> ccfiel, nautilus --no-deskop
[05:59] <DazeD||lap> Crys_Win, have you tried when using a live disc
[05:59] <Crys_Win> DazeD||lap: by my system, yeah, your done for. Someone else might know.
[06:00] <Crys_Win> I'll see you guys all later.
[06:00] <paxmaster> trouble burning dvd in hoary
[06:00] <DazeD||lap> thoreauputic, ten miinutes is a long time when people ask a question ever 2 seconds in this room...and my text gets erased within 45 seconds
[06:00] <paxmaster> i can burn dvd to dvd
[06:00] <andril> does anyone know how to add TTF fonts?
[06:01] <tarzeau> andril: throw them in /usr/share/fonts/ ?
[06:01] <Ng> andril: you can just drop them into a .fonts directory in your home
[06:01] <deFrysk> andril, sudo apt-get install msttfonts
[06:01] <andril> tarzeau: thanks
[06:01] <andril> Ng: would this make them available system wide?
[06:01] <neighborlee> I can't get auto-apt to work based on both wiki doc and the man page and wondering if anyone else is having trouble, and if so knows what the fix is if any ?
[06:02] <Ng> andril: no, you'd need to put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype or so for that :)
[06:02] <andril> deFrysk: I have my own (123) graffiti fonts
[06:02] <paxmaster> can someone help me,
[06:02] <ccfiel> thoreauputic: thanks. but in xfce i can no see my flash disk or usb disk. using nautilus. how will see the content of it
[06:02] <deFrysk> andril, i see
[06:02] <apoZ`> Repeat : Help : I need a translation program : Dutch - French
[06:02] <neighborlee> paxmaster, hi waz up
[06:02] <coolkev> will breazy be released 12:00 am on Thursday
[06:02] <ccfiel> thoreauputic: thanks. but in xfce i can no see my flash disk or usb disk. using nautilus. how will see the content of it
[06:03] <thoreauputic_> ccfiel: that's a gnome volume manager thing IIRC
[06:03] <paxmaster> problem burning dvd
[06:03] <basti__> !samba
[06:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:03] <andril> Ng: thanks again
[06:04] <paxmaster> i want a file (4.3 to burn in to a dvd
[06:04] <coolkev> when breazy is released, how will i make the transistion from haroy to breazy? will i hav eot down iso and re-install or type some command and it'll happen?
[06:04] <deFrysk> coolkev, /topic
[06:04] <apokryphos> coolkev: alter one file, enter one command
[06:04] <coolkev> hoary*
[06:04] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[06:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:04] <ccfiel> thoreauputic: what do you mean. but when im in gnome i can see my usb disk using nautilus but in xfce i can not
[06:05] <ibrasil> anyone help me? i instaled w32codecs but dont see imges, only sounds and a blue screen
[06:05] <coolkev> thank you thoreauputic
[06:05] <thoreauputic> ccfiel: because the gnome volume mangaer isn't running in xfce
[06:05] <coolkev> and thank you ubotu
[06:05] <sector10> xxtreme: Hi
[06:05] <neighborlee> paxmaster, what command are you using and if any what errors are you getting...we really need 'more' info ;-)
[06:05] <ccfiel> thoreauputic: ic how can i run it?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> ccfiel: I think you can have the gnome features start up in xfce4 - look in the config GUI
[06:05] <xxtreme> sector10_ whats up
[06:05] <thoreauputic> i'm using fluxbox atm
[06:06] <ccfiel> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[06:06] <ccfiel> fluxbox? what that? is that a windows manager?
[06:06] <paxmaster> well i am using k3b software to burn, I can burn cds
[06:06] <sector10> xxtreme: trying to stop spam just now
[06:06] <xxtreme> sector10 pm me when finish
[06:07] <sector10> ok
[06:08] <zeke1> can anybody help me with my ati drivers...i get this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed...i re-installed ubuntu again and same problem???
[06:08] <paxmaster> i have burn knoppix dvd to dvd it work fine but I made a backup with tar using split command. The file that i want to burn is 4.3 GB
[06:08] <thoreauputic> ccfiel: apt-cache show fluxbox :)
[06:08] <paxmaster> it don't work
[06:09] <ccfiel> brb
[06:10] <Cred> Hello. Could someone help me a bit with DVD playback. When I start to play a movie, everything lags. The movie, mouse, windows. I have updated system to Breezy just moments ago. As far as I can tell, configurations should be ok.
[06:10] <Sarkie> Cred, so is that a question or a statement
[06:10] <Sarkie> ?
[06:10] <Iam8up> Cred - this isn't the windows support channel - ask somewhere else, such as guru3d.com
[06:10] <apoZ`> can anyone help me with installing cedega ?
[06:10] <Iam8up> Sarkie - statement...
[06:10] <Dreamglider> how can i make a boot floppy in Ubuntu
[06:10] <paxmaster> i have burn knoppix dvd to dvd it work fine but I made a backup with tar using split command. The file that i want to burn is 4.3 GB  and the that i am using is 4.7
[06:10] <Sarkie> Iam8up, i thought so
[06:11] <Iam8up> Sarkie - the lack of question marks = statement, although he is asking us through the form of a statement which is really annoying =/
[06:11] <Sarkie> I noticed
[06:11] <Cred> Ok well sorry. Does anyone here have an idea why it lags?
[06:11] <Iam8up> Cred - what's your hardware?
[06:11] <Sarkie> but you updated it, now it doesnt?
[06:11] <Iam8up> what software are you using to playback dvds?
[06:11] <paxmaster> don't work for now i am using scp to transfer the file to a mac osx and burn it
[06:11] <apoZ`> Anyone knows more about cedega ?
[06:11] <Sarkie> apoZ`, in what sense?
[06:11] <NoUse> !cedega
[06:11] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[06:12] <Cred> I use Totem. A7N 2, R9500, Barton 2500+, 512 CL2.0. With Hoary there was no problems after enabling DMA.
[06:12] <pmj> what's wrong with this entry in my sources.list, 'cause apt just keep ignoring it http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ main contrib non-free
[06:13] <Iam8up> Cred - don't use totem (if that's dvd playback software) use powerdvd, it's great for dvd playback
[06:13] <Iam8up> or bsplayer, or best yet - VLC
[06:13] <apoZ`> Sarkie,  nevermind
[06:13] <thoreauputic> pmj: it isn't a repo - it is there to download debs
[06:13] <paxmaster> re:
[06:13] <frank23> pmj:  you need deb before
[06:13] <Sarkie> theres a linux version of powerdvd!
[06:14] <thoreauputic> pmj: if you need java, w32codecs etc download them and install with  sudo dpkg -i <package>
[06:14] <ibrasil> how to fix this error? "Totem could not startup. ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program"
[06:14] <kemik> Sarkie:  really ?
[06:14] <ibrasil> i tried to open a movie
[06:14] <Sarkie> ibrasil, turn off any sound programs you are using
[06:14] <pmj> thoreauputic: okay thanks, why can't i use it as a repository?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> ibrasil: try  killall esd and run it again
[06:14] <shermanator> is breezy out yet :D lol just pulling your legs
[06:14] <Cred> Iam8up, VLC lags just the same way.
[06:14] <Sarkie>  Cred - don't use totem (if that's dvd playback software) use powerdvd,
[06:14] <[virii] > hey how do i install ncurses on ubuntu
[06:15] <thoreauputic> pmj: it isn't confured as a repository
[06:15] <thoreauputic> *configured
[06:15] <pmj> thoreauputic: all right, tanks
[06:15] <ibrasil> thoreauputic, thanks, it work now and my ubuntu is perctly functional
[06:15] <apoZ`> I've got a cd to translate words from dutch to french.  I need it hard.. How can i use it ?
[06:15] <Iam8up> Cred - you ahve a problem outside of your hardware and dvd playback app, more then likly something else is running -- try running VLC in high priority
[06:15] <thoreauputic> pmj: apt repos have to be configured a certain way
[06:15] <thoreauputic> ibrasil: esd gets in the way at times
[06:16] <ibrasil> how to fix it permanetly?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> ibrasil: I use dmix and alsa
[06:16] <thoreauputic> ibrasil: there's a config tutorial on the alsa site IIRC
[06:17] <tony_the_cable_g> I changed that already and it still opens with Totem.
[06:17] <ibrasil> ok
[06:17] <yuacht> hey, i get an "server caught signal 11" using latest breezy, upgraded some packages recently (from breezy to breezy if you get me) and now the X server wont start, worked wonders before
[06:17] <thoreauputic> aha
[06:17] <thoreauputic> !dmix
[06:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:17] <thoreauputic> ibrasil: the bot just spat out the URL
[06:17] <_foodcoman> What repo has the w32codec?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[06:18] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[06:18] <_foodcoman> thoreauputic: thanks, you rock!
[06:18] <shermanator> !libdvdcss2
[06:18] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, shermanator
[06:18] <shermanator> !libdvdcss
[06:18] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, shermanator
[06:18] <shermanator> :(
[06:19] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[06:19] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[06:19] <thoreauputic> !hoary-extras
[06:19] <ubotu> hmm... hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:20] <shermanator> ahhh
[06:21] <shermanator> not that this current install on my old celery 600mhz laptop will take dvds well... thats a task for my p4 i think
[06:21] <buulian> okay... i think i'm in
[06:21] <don-o> how many hours until breezy?
[06:21] <Blissex> check the /topic
[06:21] <Dreamglider> i have Ubuntu on both me DELL8300 and my toshiba satellite 1900 pc's and on both boxes i cannot access/mount the floppy drive i get this error on both boxes "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[06:22] <thoreauputic> buulian: you are in indeed :)
[06:22] <buulian> thoreauputic- are there any good flash alternatives?
[06:22] <Blissex> Dreamglider: thats amazingly funny.
[06:22] <digger3> Hi, what is the package called to graphically change your boot settings in breezy?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> buulian: not sure what you mean
[06:22] <johnsie2k> if  Ubuntu didnt detect my wireless network card shoul I use ndiswrapper?
[06:22] <NoUse> digger3 are you refering to bum?
[06:22] <Blissex> Dreamglider: as in very unlikely. Are you sure you put in a valid formatted floppy in?
[06:22] <shermanator> are you *sure* it didnt johnsie2k?
[06:23] <Dreamglider> Blissex, i tried 5 floppys, on both pc's
[06:23] <digger3> NoUse: uhm, no 'grub' actually :)
[06:23] <johnsie2k> well it didnt come up on my list of networking devices
[06:23] <buulian> thoreauputic- i tried to use wine to run macromedia flash (website design) and it won't run it... so i was wondering if there's any other way besides switching back to windows
[06:23] <Blissex> Dreamglider: which program did emit that message?
[06:23] <[virii] > how to install ncurses?
[06:23] <Dreamglider> Blissex, the floppy drive does not make one sound
[06:23] <shermanator> hmm, well its a good chance...
[06:23] <Dreamglider> Blissex, Nautlius 2.12.1
[06:23] <buulian> thoreauputic- correction: free
[06:23] <shermanator> johnsie2k, I've only ever got one device running in ndiswrapper
[06:23] <sorush20> why does the EU flag has only 12 start
[06:24] <NoUse> digger3 bum lets you modify what daemons start at boottime
[06:24] <Blissex> Dreamglider: argh, apparently doing a search it is a common problem with automounting etc.
[06:24] <Blissex> Dreamglider: try to open a console and say something like 'mdir a:' and see if it gives back a list of the files on the floppy.
[06:24] <thoreauputic> buulian: AFAIK that's windows only - linux doesn't support anything but flash plugins etc
[06:24] <digger3> NoUse: I am looking for something to graphically change my grub boot settings
[06:24] <Blissex> Dreamglider: if it does your hw at least is fine.
[06:24] <johnsie2k> hmmm guess i'll just have 2 get a new belkin one
[06:24] <NoUse> digger3 I'm not aware of such an app
[06:25] <Blissex> johnsie2k: very few WiFi cards are well supported...
[06:25] <buulian> thoreauputic- are there any languages that can do the same thing as flash?
[06:25] <johnsie2k> belkin is very well support on ubuntu
[06:25] <afief> Why don't all linux system support ONE packaging system? in fact, what is the difference between .deb and .rpm files?
[06:25] <Blissex> johnsie2k: check this page for links: http://tinyurl.com/adhwx
[06:25] <buulian> thoreauputic- python? perl? cgi- scripts? DHTML?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> buulian: please address your questions to the channel
[06:25] <digger3> NoUse: okay, but it is installed on my laptop which is also running breezy, strange
[06:25] <thoreauputic> buulian: I'm not a programmer :)
[06:25] <Blissex> johnsie2k: depends on which Belkin -- they use many different chipsets.
[06:25] <buulian> gotcha
[06:25] <NoUse> afief go into #redhat and convince them to use dpkg and let us know how it goes
[06:25] <Dreamglider> Blissex, mdir: command not found
[06:26] <buulian> are there any languages that can do the same thing as flash?
[06:26] <johnsie2k> yeah... thats true
[06:26] <afief> NoUse: i'd like to know the difference first, before i get into this
[06:26] <fetman> anybody who can help me with my sound? it just went dead!
[06:26] <khermans_> when will the officially released Breezy ISO be uploaded, at what time?
[06:26] <Blissex> Dreamglider: 'sudo apt-get install mtools'
[06:26] <infernall> If i am using software raid with the md devices, md0 for boot md2 as root, which drives do I tell grub to use if the actual disks are hde1-3 and hdg1-3?
[06:26] <shermanator> afief, thats the same question I asked myself before I started to use ubuntu
[06:26] <[virii] > whats the package management tool ?
[06:26] <liran__> i got ubuntu installed for quite a while... how do i go about re-compiling the kernel? i want it to be compatible to my cpu (its an old p3)
[06:26] <apoZ`> I need a good translation tool !!!!!
[06:26] <Blissex> liran__: no point in recompiling. Just use a 686 precompiled kernel.
[06:27] <NoUse> afief I think google knows
[06:27] <axeus> Erm.
[06:27] <shermanator> afief, mandriva and the likes are just... too bloated to be used as a first distro for new comers to linux
[06:27] <thoreauputic> liran_: why not use a 686 kernel? apt-cache search linux-image and install one?
[06:27] <afief> shermanator: I have used only Fedora and Redhat until now, but it looks like a complete mess if everybody uses their own standards...
[06:27] <Jedrick> im trying to install clamav but i recieve this error. " E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable).
[06:27] <axeus> I can't remember who asked: But if it's important... The WPA worked out just fine.
[06:27] <shermanator> afief, I know :D
[06:27] <DazeD||lap> does anyone know if you can make a new / resize your current linux partition? when i try it wont let me do i need to use a live disc?
[06:27] <Blissex> shermanator: nahh, they are OK. Mandriva at least. Fedora is a bit too ''latest and greatest'' oriented.
[06:27] <khermans_> Jedrick, you probably alreafdy installing something else/.
[06:27] <kemik> Jedrick:  make sure you're not running apt
[06:27] <shermanator> but afief, the apt system seems so much more stable than the rpm system
[06:27] <Jedrick> no im not
[06:27] <shermanator> Blissex, really/
[06:27] <shermanator> ?
[06:27] <kemik> Jedrick:  pgrep apt
[06:28] <Jedrick> then?
[06:28] <deFrysk> Jedric shut down synaptic and use sudo
[06:28] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: thats a dangerous operation and works only in special cases and only if you enlarge the filesystem.
[06:28] <fetman> anybody who can help me with my sound? it just went dead!
[06:28] <thoreauputic> DazeD||lap: that would be the usual way - the disc needs to be unmounted
[06:28] <kemik> Jedrick:  see what it says ?
[06:28] <liran__> Blissex, but an 686 kernel version isn't the best compatible with my own cpu, right? i mean its a version compiled on some other cpu, like a p4-2.2ghz or whatever
[06:28] <afief> shermanator: well, i tried the yum system(fedora's version of apt-get) and it was very easy to use. easier than apt-get
[06:28] <paxmaster> problem burning dvd
[06:28] <DazeD||lap> thoreauputic, thank you thats what i figured
[06:28] <khermans_> So can someone tell me where the official breezy ISO is?
[06:28] <paxmaster> i have burn knoppix dvd to dvd it work fine but I made a backup with tar using split command. The file that i want to burn is 4.3 GB  and the that i am using is 4.7
[06:28] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, why is it so dangerous? im just resizing the free space
[06:28] <Blissex> liran__: dont worry about that. The 686 kernel is about the best compatible with your PIII.
[06:28] <khermans_> is there a specific location where it will be uploiaded to?
[06:28] <Jedrick> 10676
[06:28] <thoreauputic> liran_: the diference would be extremely small
[06:28] <Jedrick>  10739
[06:28] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: which free space?
[06:28] <Jedrick> thats what i got
[06:28] <afief> shermanator: anyway, what other packaging systems are there???
[06:28] <NoUse> kherman_ its about 24 hours in the future
[06:29] <kemik> Jedrick:  so you are probably running aptitude / synaptic / apt-get
[06:29] <shermanator> afief, admittedly ive never used fedora core... a distro thats bigger than one cd isnt well thought out
[06:29] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, free space on me ext3 im going to resize a little bit of it then install windows on the unallocated space
[06:29] <Dreamglider> Blissex,
[06:29] <Jedrick> no im not running dude
[06:29] <Dreamglider> init A: non DOS media
[06:29] <Dreamglider> Cannot initialize 'A:'
[06:29] <shermanator> ive had most of my luck come from using ubuntu
[06:29] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: thats fairly dangerous...
[06:29] <shermanator> rpm, apt, yum, emerge....
[06:29] <liran__> thoreauputic,  Blissex: ok thanks guys. so just apt-get linux-image-whatever_version_i_want?
[06:29] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, wy?
[06:29] <DazeD||lap> why?
[06:29] <shermanator> afief, ^^^^^
[06:29] <afief> shermanator: I only used CD1 and a bit of CD2 for installation. the rest is programs, and there are a lot of them in Fedora believe me
[06:29] <Jedrick> im not running synaptic
[06:30] <shermanator> afief, hmm....
[06:30] <zeke1> can anybody help me with my ati drivers...i get this error: libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed...i re-installed ubuntu again and same problem???
[06:30] <thoreauputic> liran_: yes, just look at the list from apt-cche search linux-image
[06:30] <afief> shermanator: it seems they made it for people who can't download 100MB worth of apps
[06:30] <kemik> Jedrick:  but pgrep showed alot of PID's with apt inthem
[06:30] <thoreauputic> liran_: but avoid 2.6.11
[06:30] <Jedrick> dunno
[06:30] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, its the same thing u would do with windows if u were planning to dual boot and install linux
[06:30] <kemik> Jedrick:  try "ps aux | grep apt" and paste it on pastebin
[06:30] <shermanator> afief, but they still had to get the iso's from somewhere :D
[06:30] <liran__> thoreauputic, ok thanks. why 2.6.11 if i may ask?
[06:30] <Jedrick> hok
[06:30] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: and it is dangerous under MS Windows too.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> liran_: it had issues - it's in universe and should only be used by the gurus or the foolish ;)
[06:31] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, oh well if you think thats dangerous too then ok...i got it under control thanks :)
[06:31] <liran__> ahh ok thanks thoreauputic
[06:31] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: the main problem is that free space is not in a big chunk at the end of the partition; it is distributed in little bits and pieces. That means that to shrink one has to bunch it up by moving things around, and thats fairly dangerous.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> liran_: if you are on breezy it won't be an issue since breezy uses 2.6.12
[06:32] <afief> shermanator: when i still used Dial-up(therw was no broadband in this area) i used to ask some friends to download my CDs i needed, but i couldn't ask them to download 30 programs + dependencies for my system
[06:32] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, thats just like defragmenting and it actually makes ur computer run more efficient
[06:32] <liran__> im gonna be a bit stubrn and insist on asking still, how to compile a kernel from source (if there's a quick and easy guide) because i want to practice it (for a good reason :) )
[06:32] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: it is also enormously slow. So the best bet is to have  a backup disc, repartition that, copy things to it, and copy things back.
[06:32] <shermanator> afief, true
[06:33] <infbliss> can anybody help me out in playing VCD's. i cant copy dat files.always  get an i/o error message
[06:33] <shermanator> afief, but as the world gets updated each day with new technology, more homes will be permanently conencted to the net
[06:33] <shermanator> afief, so its all pluses and minuses everywhere
[06:33] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, well i dont nor do i have 80 - 250 dollars to spend on a backup hd .... and i have done the partitioning of windows atleast 100 times just never on linux...and i know how a hd stores data i thnk i should be fine
[06:33] <afief> shermanator: I have this now, but i still like the 4 CDs worth of software
[06:33] <bpf> ok, this is strange. I have 2 identical Dell 19" LCD's and updated to breezy yesterday. Now one of my monitors is slightly blurry :( any ideas?
[06:33] <Trackilizer> !sources
[06:33] <ubotu> methinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:33] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: I'll pray for your disc and data :-)
[06:33] <shermanator> afief, :D I know what you mean
[06:34] <DazeD||lap> Blissex, give me an hour and a half and ill tell you if i succeeded
[06:34] <afief> shermanator: right now i'm trying to find my way into linux, Fedora was more flexible than ubuntu, but ubuntu seems more stable
[06:34] <afief> shermanator: any advice?
[06:34] <shermanator> bpf, refresh rates?
[06:34] <bpf> good idea, I'll check it
[06:34] <Blissex> DazeD||lap: you might well succeed, but the danger is significant... People do succeed most of the time.
[06:34] <bpf> they are the same tho, so that is still odd
[06:35] <liran__> bpf: which dell model is it? i'm interested in getting a laptop but i'm not sure which cause i've no idea about the linux support about it
[06:35] <shermanator> afief, as i said, ive never tried fedora, but its supposed to be a 'free' version of redhat, I hear.... now I used netbsd, mandrake, mandriva, slackware before going to ubuntu and ive never looked back
[06:35] <DazeD||lap> well i know there is a chance of losing all my data at any point during a format resize or repartition...but thats a given when partitioning anytime
[06:35] <bpf> liran_, it's not a laptop, it's a desktop with dual displays
[06:35] <shermanator> afief, basically because the howto's and tutorials are so easy to follow
[06:35] <liran__> ahh ok
[06:35] <bpf> liran_, if you want a quality laptop to run linux, go with a thinkpad
[06:35] <shermanator> and afief i find its difficult to find info for other distros... its always scattered
[06:36] <liran__> bpf, an ibm?
[06:36] <NoUse> liran_ they're no longer IBM thinkpads :-) Lenovo
[06:36] <bpf> liran_, yes ibm/lenovo
[06:36] <liran__> bpf: ibm laptops look really bad :) but seriously, i heard goods about dell, just want to make an objective opinion
[06:36] <afief> shermanator: i must agree on that... however it seems that Ubunto has problems when it comes to compiling your own source
[06:37] <liran__> afief, linux kernel source?
[06:37] <shermanator> afief, thats only because there is now build tools installed by default
[06:37] <shermanator> afief, the idea behind apt-get is that you'll never have to compile.
[06:37] <bpf> liran_, i think they are the best hardware out there (beside maybe apple) but you pay for it with either one
[06:37] <shermanator> afief, of course thats silly, but you can always 'apt-get install build-essentials'
[06:37] <Crys_Win> Hey all.
[06:38] <bpf> liran_, ubuntu ran fine on my bottom of the line dell, i just think it's a crappy machine. ymmv
[06:38] <Crys_Win> Anyone here wanna pm me their grub entry for ubuntu?
[06:38] <bpf> the wireless even worked
[06:38] <afief> shermanator: did that, but i still get programs saying dependencies ain't there when i installed them myself!
[06:38] <bpf> thinkpads are super durable, not sure about the dell track record
[06:38] <shermanator> afief, what programs?
[06:38] <afief> shermanator: like supertux(bad example, I know) asking for SDL
[06:39] <shermanator> afief, how did you install them?
[06:39] <Dreamglider> Blissex, Cannot initialize 'A:' - init A: non DOS media
[06:39] <Dreamglider> Cannot initialize 'A:'
[06:39] <bpf> shermanator, should I just randomly expand the range of refresh rates in xorg.conf? Horiz or Vert?
[06:39] <shermanator> afief, ahh, yes, the SDL packages are there, that needs to be enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list, or through synaptic
[06:39] <shermanator> bpf, what options do you have atm?
[06:39] <Deanodriver> hi
[06:39] <afief> shermanator: did that, didn't help
[06:39] <shermanator> bpf, 60hz should be fine
[06:40] <Deanodriver> how do i replace the trash and show desktop icons on my toolbar in breezy?
[06:40] <bpf> shermanator, Horiz is 30-65 and Vert is 50-75
[06:40] <Deanodriver> when i upgraded, i lost them, both are red x's
[06:40] <shermanator> afief, then you mustve 'dpkg -i' a newer supertux package
[06:40] <Deanodriver> and many of the icons in the places menu aren't there at all
[06:40] <Sarkie> ok then, install java 1.5
[06:40] <Sarkie> re and sdk
[06:40] <Deanodriver> was about a month ago when i upgraded to breezy, been updating often since then
[06:41] <Kalidarn> daww they took off the 1.5days till breezy thingo
[06:41] <chrisx1> umm
[06:41] <chrisx1> how do i find out why my sound card aint installed?
[06:41] <shermanator> Kalidarn, its gonna be released soon
[06:41] <sector10> xxtreme: you there?
[06:41] <afief> shermanator: that was the latest version, and i installed the latest SDL-devel. anyway, I got the game through synaptic pkg maneger and it still doesn't work(for some unexplainable reason)
[06:41] <Kalidarn> lol really *sarcasm
[06:41] <shermanator> chrisx1, type 'ls /dev/ds*' in a terminal
[06:41] <Kalidarn> i was hoping they would say "5 minutes till breezy is released"
[06:42] <shermanator> afief, what version of ubuntu? works fine for me on hoary
[06:42] <Blissex> Dreamglider: that sounds like it is not a MSDOS formatted floppy
[06:42] <chrisx1> No Such File/folder
[06:42] <Blissex> Dreamglider: what kind of floppy is that?
[06:42] <shermanator> afief, altho i am not sure if thats because I had marillat in the repository file
[06:42] <Sarkie> Java still runs gij, how do i link to sun jre?
[06:42] <thrashbarg> chrisx1, what type of sound card
[06:42] <Dreamglider> it's the floppy i used to install Ubuntu from internet
[06:42] <hablandocontigo> What are those old jumbo ps2-esque ports called?
[06:43] <Sarkie> Serial
[06:43] <chrisx1> onboard 1 its Crystal
[06:43] <afief> shermanator: 5.04 that's horay i guess
[06:43] <juxella> hey
[06:43] <Dreamglider> Blissex,  it's the floppy i used to install Ubuntu from internet
[06:43] <Blissex> Dreamglider: and what do you want to do with it?
[06:43] <shermanator> afief, then those missing files must be in the now-not-used marillat repos'
[06:43] <juxella> i was wondering.... what distribution of ubuntu should i take for a DualCore P4 procesor?
[06:43] <shermanator> afief, they are gearing up for breezy
[06:43] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: serial for keyboards?
[06:43] <Crys_Win> Hey, can somebody send me their menu.lst?
[06:43] <[virii] > ncurses = what package?
[06:43] <Crys_Win> Not the whole thing, just the os entrys.
[06:43] <Deanodriver> juxella, depends on whether it's got 64bit or not
[06:44] <shermanator> juxella, install breezy x86, then install the linux-2.6.12-9 686 SMP kernel
[06:44] <Deanodriver> i think they do (in which case you'd use AMD64)
[06:44] <Dreamglider> Blissex, with the disk, nothing much i just want my floppy drives to work!
[06:44] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, the old big ones from keyboards, serial
[06:44] <afief> shermanator: breezy is due to be released tomorrow, right?
[06:44] <Deanodriver> but if they don't have EMT64 or whatever it is, i386 is the go
[06:44] <shermanator> afief, as far as I know :D
[06:44] <chrisx1> shermanator, its a onboard crystal 1
[06:44] <Blissex> Dreamglider: have you got a simple empty MSDOS formatted floppy to try?
[06:44] <shermanator> afief, Im wandering about that myself
[06:44] <Deanodriver> if all you know is that it isn't a Mac, use i386 :)
[06:45] <Lenhador> Hi! I'm trying to install an "user script" on Greasemonkey/Firefox, on Hoary, but my Firefox break with "segmentation fault"... what's happen?
[06:45] <shermanator> chrisx1, ...odd? I do have to admit, *kubuntu* has decided not to play with my soundcard, which is a vibra 128 pci sound blaster, just a week ago
[06:45] <afief> shermanator: too bad, I got my horay CDs only two days ago:) it's sad that no one around here uses linux, they all have pirated windows
[06:45] <chrisx1> umm
[06:45] <shermanator> but chrisx1 thats probably because its cheap
[06:45] <chrisx1> theres no way to install it?
[06:45] <[virii] > in synaptic where would ncurses be located?
[06:45] <shermanator> afief, I know what you mean :P
[06:45] <afief> shermanator but when i look at the pain it takes to get into this world it's quite obvious why
[06:46] <shermanator> afief, its getting much much better
[06:46] <shermanator> afief, they just need more driver support from the hardware manufacturers
[06:46] <Crys_Win> Once more, I'd like the MENU.LST entries for the Ubuntu. That's all I need.
[06:46] <Dreamglider> Blissex, yes, i'll pastebin the output
[06:46] <shermanator> afief, truth be told, ubuntu is an *excellent* cheap way to make a computer be an office machine
[06:46] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: but menu.lst depends on your configuration
[06:47] <Blissex> Dreamglider: if you got a test floppy try this: 'sudo fdformat /dev/fd0; sudo mformat a:'
[06:47] <johnsie2k> Hi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?
[06:47] <Crys_Win> I know how to edit it. I just need the basic config for it.
[06:47] <Deanodriver> yeah, openoffice is a very nice app
[06:47] <johnsie2k> Hi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?
[06:47] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: I don't think just quite: round jumbo ports; I get parallelogram serial ports when I search
[06:47] <Deanodriver> a bit bloated for slower systems, but a nice app nonetheless
[06:47] <juxella> will it be hard to go from the current Breezy RC to the final? Do i have to wait until the final breezy is released?
[06:47] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, you want me to link you? for an example
[06:47] <afief> shermanator: office machine yes, internet machine, yes. gaming console, no. development platform: no idea
[06:47] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, http://www.success-hk.com/sc_html/Computer/20_6F5M%20PS2%20to%20Serial%20for%20Keyboard%20(6in).htm
[06:47] <Dreamglider> Blissex, http://pastebin.com/391341
[06:47] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: I just don't know how to set it up from scratch.
[06:47] <johnsie2k> Hi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?
[06:48] <shermanator> afief, gaming console... well, i successfully installed cedega 4.4.1 and half life 2 on my p4... works *great*
[06:48] <Sarkie> for example, hablandocontigo I used to own one, hence i know ;)
[06:48] <shermanator> afief, better than that *other* OS
[06:48] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: Also, I can't check the original from windows.
[06:48] <Deanodriver> if all you do is browse the internet, view/send emails, type up the odd document and play solitaire, Ubuntu is ideal
[06:48] <rata> there is a date for breezy realease ?
[06:48] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: ah, precisely; they call this serial too: http://cgi.ebay.ca/PS-2-to-Serial-Converter-for-PS-2-Mouse-NEW_W0QQitemZ5817511852QQcategoryZ45340QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:48] <basscr> how do i log into ubuntu without using the GDM ?
[06:48] <johnsie2k> Hi... my wireless networking card comes up in my Device manager but I dunno how to get it working. Can anyone help?
[06:48] <Blissex> Dreamglider: the second time looks like it read precisely the contents of a floppy.
[06:48] <Deanodriver> rata, yep, 13th of October :)
[06:48] <rata> Deanodriver, cool :)
[06:49] <Deanodriver> ie: today here
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: hang on - finding a URL for you
[06:49] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, see point proven ;)
[06:49] <afief> shermanator: true, but i have some gamer friends, although we all have consoles some PC games are simply a must, and most don't come out for linux
[06:49] <Blissex> basscr: depends on what else you want to use.
[06:49] <Lenhador> Hi! I'm trying to install an "user script" on Greasemonkey/Firefox, on Hoary, but my Firefox break with "segmentation fault"... what's happen?
[06:49] <Crys_Win> thoreaputic Thanks so much.
[06:49] <spoilerhead> hallo leute
[06:49] <shermanator> afief, cedega 'emulates' parts of windows so you can run windows apps in linux
[06:49] <spoilerhead> ups, sorry, wrong channel :)
[06:49] <shermanator> afief, its come a long way
[06:50] <Deanodriver> shermanator, that's wine as well
[06:50] <Deanodriver> cedega is meant to emulate directx, i think, for games
[06:50] <shermanator> Deanodriver, yer cedega is a commercial fork in the wine project
[06:50] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: do you know if they come split for mouse + board. I have a serial for keyboard adapter but that's only for my keyboard, I have no way to attach mouse
[06:50] <Deanodriver> ok
[06:50] <shermanator> Deanodriver, wine can do that to
[06:50] <afief> shermanator I would gladly believe that, but seeing what linux is like it's still a long way to go. i had hoped people would change when Vista comes...
[06:50] <Deanodriver> a long way to go until what?
[06:50] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: no obviously easy way*
[06:51] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, so you want a mouse serial to ps2?
[06:51] <basscr> Blissex: i want to login direct into ubuntu, the problem is that my monitor doesn't support 800x600 resolution, so i only see lines!
[06:51] <shermanator> afief, linux needs more driver support to be fully acceptible. Yes its true its difficult, but now I actually feel *dirty* running windows on any of my machines
[06:51] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, seem belkin makes one http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=225972&sku=B20-7420
[06:51] <phreakshow> hey
[06:51] <Deanodriver> as a desktop operating system, I don't think Linux will ever usurp Windows as #1
[06:52] <shermanator> basscr, upgrade your hardware
[06:52] <phreakshow> am i a noob?
[06:52] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win:  http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3340051
[06:52] <Crys_Win> phreakshow: Yes, yes you are.
[06:52] <Deanodriver> but because of the number of platforms that Linux can run on, Linux-based devices (like TiVo's) will become more and more common
[06:52] <Blissex> basscr: oh man, define login direct
[06:52] <shermanator> Deanodriver, windows is a desktop os trying to be a server os too. Linux is a server os that might just have enough guts to make it be a desktop os.
[06:52] <shermanator> Deanodriver, its already happening
[06:52] <Deanodriver> shermanator, i know that
[06:52] <shermanator> Deanodriver, what are we doing :D
[06:53] <Blissex> basscr: you can always get the text console by doping CTRL-ALT-F1
[06:53] <Deanodriver> i don't know :p
[06:53] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: Carla Schroeder writes good understandable stuff :)
[06:53] <shermanator> anyway time for sleep guys
[06:53] <Deanodriver> yeah, same, it's nearly 3am
[06:53] <Dreamglider> Blissex, http://pastebin.com/391349
[06:53] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: ah, thanks; seems one of my boxes does have a card in a PCI slot with print/mouse port; my low end AT computers : |
[06:53] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: The problem is that I don't know where all that stuff is, nor what commands to pass to the kernel.
[06:54] <Sarkie> hablandocontigo, its ok, i like talking about my old equipment brings back memories ;)
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: it 's in her article - read it
[06:54] <basscr> Blissex is there someway to skip the login screen, a go directly to ubuntu ?
[06:54] <Crys_Win> Yes sir/maam.
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: she explains how to use grub
[06:54] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: Thank you. I just hope I can follow these instructions from windoze.
[06:55] <Sarkie> how do I find where a package is installed ?
[06:55] <DShepherd> thoreauputic: Can you drop that link about grub again
[06:55] <Crys_Win> http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3340051
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: :) well read about it and see: also you might find some grub howtos on the web - I don't think we can walk you through it on IRC :)
[06:55] <afief> shermanator driver support will come along when some of the other things are solved: I consider myself an advanced computer user. I wrote lots of programs and scripts(windows) but i still have problems with linux... shouldn't be this way
[06:56] <thoreauputic> DShepherd:  http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3340051
[06:56] <Nomikos> when i install the breezy preview, will the final version require reinstall or just an apt-get upgrade?
[06:56] <DShepherd> thoreauputic: thanks man
[06:56] <msiebuhr> Sarkie: Look in synaptic...
[06:56] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: I have everything set up. Just need the entry for linux without being able to get to the files.
[06:56] <picasso> hm, where could i find breezy changelog/new features?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> also see ubotu below
[06:56] <thoreauputic> !grub
[06:56] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:57] <Nomikos> picasso: http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview
[06:57] <johnsie2k> My wi-fi adapter appears in my "device manager" list but not in my "Network Settings" list.
[06:57] <johnsie2k> Is there anything I can do to fix th
[06:57] <picasso> ty
[06:57] <Sarkie> msiebuhr, didnt know that woops
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: if you have linux installed, you can run grub-install from a live CD I believe (I don't run windows though)
[06:58] <basscr> Blissex is there someway to skip the login screen, a go directly to ubuntu ?
[06:58] <msiebuhr> Sarkie: Fair enough - I've had to learn it as well...
[06:58] <Sarkie> ok now how do i change JAVA running GIJ and get it to run java, symlink?
[06:58] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: It is for the wingrub, so No. I can't do that. But one of those later links you dropped will do nicely.
[06:59] <thoreauputic> basscr: I think there's an "auto login" optionm for a user in the gdm setup somewhere
[06:59] <basscr> ok, i'll see
[06:59] <Sarkie> would alias help me?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> !alias
[06:59] <ubotu> Create your own shorter timesaving console commands. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_05.html
[06:59] <telonir> how can i use a non-default xorg.conf file (my gnome/kde freezes sometimes with the nvidia driver. so i want it to use "nv" and create another user for gaming wich will not use gnome/kde but launch the game directly on X.. but i need the other user to use a different xorg.conf file with "nvidia" in it)
[07:00] <msiebuhr> Sarkie: Nope, symlink the thing ("ln -s original-file newfile")
[07:00] <Sarkie> thoreauputic, but should i be using "Symlink" or something like that,
[07:00] <thoreauputic> OK 3 am here: time to get some sleep - have fun all
[07:00] <Howdy125>  basscr .. system .. login screen setup
[07:00] <kresten> I can't configure wine properly it keeps exiting with a errorcode 1. Can anyone help?
[07:00] <thoreauputic> Sarkie: probably better and more practical yes
[07:00] <hablandocontigo> Sarkie: also, I can plug in all those IDE-esque cables into cards, and mother board in any configuration as long as the all end up directly/indirectly in the motherboard?
[07:00] <Blissex> basscr: the problem here is that the login screen is Ubuntu...
[07:00] <Crys_Win> Nite, thoreauputic.
[07:01] <basscr> yeap
[07:01] <rata> telonir, you have 2 ways
[07:01] <thoreauputic> goodnight all
[07:01] <Sarkie> nn
[07:01] <Blissex> basscr: you can always though boot into single user mode or into runlevel 2
[07:01] <kresten> Goodnight
[07:01] <hablandocontigo> goodafternoon
[07:01] <Sarkie> msiebuhr, can i pm you?
[07:01] <Blissex> basscr: but thats as good as switching to the console terminal with CTRL-ALT-F1
[07:01] <basscr> Blissex is there someway to log ubuntu when i'n in recovery mode ?
[07:01] <Bicchi> At what time should I expect to see the release posted for Breezy. How many hours from now?
[07:02] <msiebuhr> pm? (I'm new to IRC)
[07:02] <hablandocontigo> On an AT system can I plug in all those IDE-esque cables into other cards and mother board in any configuration as long as the all end up directly/indirectly in the motherboard?
[07:02] <telonir> rata: ?
[07:02] <Blissex> basscr: then you can put 'none' in '/etc/X11/default-display-manager' to stop it going into the graphic login
[07:02] <Blissex> basscr: just login as yourself and then 'sudo'.
[07:02] <Dreamglider> Blissex, i got the floppys formated, but i still cant mount/access the floppy im nautilus
[07:02] <Sarkie> !symlink
[07:02] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Sarkie
[07:02] <Juhaz> msiebuhr, private message
[07:03] <Blissex> Dreamglider: well, that can be because a little bug. Can you access them with 'mdir'?
[07:03] <bartp> hi
[07:03] <rata> telonir, or use 2 differents xorg.conf files, or you can add all devices to your xorg.conf (with differet identifiers, of course) and then add an other server layout (with other identifier too) and make it use the other screen, which use the other "device" (the same device with different drivers). And then, when you start X, you shoud select which layout with the -layout
[07:03] <Sarkie> ok well i know the new path for java, it should be /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin
[07:03] <rata> telonir, i prefer the second one
[07:03] <Dreamglider> Blissex, Yes.
[07:04] <AbstracTus> If I sucessfully follow the BreezyUpgradeNotes (topic), will my machine then be running the final version of Breezy or just the RC?
[07:04] <axeus> LOL
[07:04] <axeus> "There are 451 updates available."
[07:04] <rata> telonir, it is quite simple, it is more simple that it sounds
[07:04] <telonir> k
[07:05] <Blissex> Dreamglider: if you click on the 'Places:Computer' menu you should see all your mountable stuff.
[07:05] <Blissex> Dreamglider: if you do, you can right click on the icon for the floppy device and select 'Mount', that should work. Hopefully.
[07:05] <Blissex> Dreamglider: not automatic, but better than command line.
[07:05] <Chapo>  #ubuntu-fr
[07:06] <kresten> My wine installation is screwed. How do I remove it and the conf files?
[07:06] <Lenhador> Can you help-me? What my firefox breaks with Greasemonkey?
[07:06] <Dreamglider> Blissex, Unable to mount the selected volume. Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:06] <Blissex> Dreamglider: Argh.
[07:06] <Dreamglider> Blissex, on both boxes :/
[07:07] <sachingarg> I wish to know how packages are selected for distribution in ubuntu...
[07:08] <TiMiDo> www.ubuntu.com sachingarg
[07:08] <Blissex> Dreamglider: here, with an odd config, 'Mount' and 'Umount' on the icon ''just work''.
[07:08] <Blissex> Dreamglider: but I have disabled 'udev' and 'hotplug' and all that dubious crap.
[07:08] <kresten> Does anyone know how to remove wine and its configuration files?
[07:08] <sachingarg> TiMiDo: how can I  suggest additional packages for consideration
[07:08] <TiMiDo> kresten: man dpkg or apt-get
[07:08] <TiMiDo> sachingarg: on the ubuntu-devel
[07:08] <TiMiDo> list
[07:09] <Blissex> sachingarg: the problem is more that Ubuntu want to _remove_ not add packages. The objective is to have a small distro.
[07:09] <sachingarg> ok...
[07:09] <AbstracTus> Q: If I sucessfully follow the BreezyUpgradeNotes (topic), will my machine then be running the final version of Breezy or just the RC?
[07:09] <kresten> TiMiDo: does that also remove the wine configuration?
[07:09] <TiMiDo> just the RC AbstracTus wait until tomorrow
[07:09] <johnsie2k> My wi-fi adapter appears in my "device manager" list but not in my "Network Settings" list. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[07:09] <chrisx1> yay
[07:09] <TiMiDo> yes kresten  read the man that i give you
[07:09] <AbstracTus> TiMiDo: Ok, thanx
[07:09] <TiMiDo> AbstracTus: np
[07:09] <sachingarg> Are only open source packages considered for inclusion?
[07:10] <chrisx1> i got sound working
[07:10] <TiMiDo> yes sachingarg
[07:10] <TiMiDo> cool chrisx1
[07:10] <Sarkie> Right, I still have GIJ running instead of running /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java, how do i fix this, please!!!
[07:10] <sachingarg> what if there is an interesting enough, but closed sourced package?
[07:10] <TiMiDo> sachingarg:  such as?
[07:10] <TiMiDo> Sarkie: kill the gij pid
[07:10] <TiMiDo> and then run it
[07:10] <Sarkie> how?
[07:10] <Sarkie> process id?
[07:10] <TiMiDo> Sarkie: ps x
[07:11] <Dreamglider> Blissex, what is  'udev' and 'hotplug' and is it easy to disable ?
[07:11] <TiMiDo> Dreamglider: hotplug /etc/init.d/hotplug stop; it should be disable
[07:11] <tuxuntu> Hello! I'm using breezy (upgraded from hoary today). Now my umlauts are not working anymore. I found a bug at bugzilla, but that didnt help either. Anyone has an idea?
[07:11] <TiMiDo> or read man update-rc.d
[07:11] <Sarkie> not as in "running" as in if i dod Java from the cl it loads GIJ instead of Java 1.5
[07:11] <TiMiDo> Dreamglider: do this man man update-rc.d
[07:11] <TiMiDo> bla just one man
[07:12] <sachingarg> TimiDo: nothing particular in my mind... just want to know what all is considered
[07:12] <TiMiDo> sachingarg: read the www.ubuntu.com or the wiki
[07:12] <TiMiDo> or go to #ubuntu-motu
[07:12] <sachingarg> I saw "restricted copyright" section in synaptic...
[07:12] <sachingarg> i guess those packages are close-sourced...
[07:12] <TiMiDo> yeah
[07:13] <Jedrick> How to start clamav antivirus?
[07:13] <sachingarg> what is ubuntu-motu about?
[07:13] <Blissex> Dreamglider: with 'hal' they are the stuff that do all the autoconfiguration for peripherals. If you disable them you have to configure all device manually.
[07:13] <spstarr_work> whats the next unbuntu unstable tree name ?
[07:13] <TiMiDo> Jedrick: run a terminal and do clamav or /etc/init.d/clamav as sudo
[07:13] <Sarkie> TiMiDo, how can I remove GIJ running instead of Java its not an "alias" so dont no whats up?
[07:13] <spstarr_work> is it created yet so i can switch my apt.source list stuff?
[07:13] <TiMiDo> Sarkie: did you do ps x did it came up with the pid?
[07:13] <spstarr_work> since there's no 'sid' in Ubuntu
[07:13] <Dreamglider> Blissex, i dont want that :/
[07:13] <spstarr_work> or 'testing/unstable'
[07:13] <TiMiDo> spstarr_work: well sid is breezy, until it's released
[07:13] <Sarkie> I cant see it
[07:13] <Jedrick> Tidus: it's not working dude
[07:13] <Blissex> Dreamglider: so wait for a fixed package...
[07:14] <Blissex> Dreamglider: and/or mount things manually.
[07:14] <spstarr_work> so there's no other new tree started yet?
[07:14] <TiMiDo> well breezy will be stable
[07:14] <Blissex> Dreamglider: you can always do a 'sudo mount' from the command line.
[07:14] <TiMiDo> spstarr_work: not really
[07:14] <Sarkie> it'll be in synaptic, removing it may help??
[07:14] <axeus> Breezy Preview is stable. :S
[07:14] <TiMiDo> axeus: still not stable
[07:14] <TiMiDo> let me take a look at it
[07:14] <spstarr_work> TiMiDo: it would be nice to have a floating tree
[07:15] <eyequeue> axeus:  um, no, it's still dynamic
[07:15] <spstarr_work> so i dont need to change my apt list each time
[07:15] <axeus> Yeah, it's not classified as a stable build.
[07:15] <axeus> But it's literally "stable" on me.
[07:15] <xml-blog> hi all, anyone know where on my system I can look for crash info? I try starting the new Art Manager and it says starting and dies.
[07:15] <TiMiDo> well, it's getting there
[07:15] <TiMiDo> spstarr_work: yeah i know,
[07:15] <telonir> rata : startx -layout layout2 ?!
[07:15] <tuxuntu> Hello! I'm using breezy (upgraded from hoary today). Now my umlauts are not working anymore. I found a bug at bugzilla, but that didnt help either. Anyone has an idea?
[07:15] <TiMiDo> xml-blog: any errors?
[07:15] <eyequeue> spstarr_work:  it's only every six months, but you can run it more if its too much work
[07:15] <Sarkie> TiMiDo, fixed it ;)
[07:15] <Sarkie> haha
[07:15] <spstarr_work> I suppose looking for the project name in ftp will tell me enough :)
[07:15] <xml-blog> no just says starting you see it in the panel and it disappears
[07:15] <Sarkie> just removed the GIJ package from snyaptic
[07:16] <TiMiDo> xml-blog: interesting,
[07:16] <spstarr_work> since once breezy is out, the next one begins development
[07:16] <TiMiDo> can you run it form a terminal
[07:16] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, also happens when I try to start Splash Screen settings from Preferences
[07:16] <spstarr_work> unless Ubuntu _waits_ 6 months
[07:16] <eyequeue> axeus:  stable means unchanging, even it runs solidly its still not stable until release :)
[07:16] <spstarr_work> then pulls what sid is
[07:16] <ompaul> spstarr_work,  No Breezy is not out yet -- be patient!
[07:17] <spstarr_work> ompaul, im not talking if its out or not, i said 'when' its out
[07:17] <johnsie2k> My wi-fi adapter appears in my "device manager" list but not in my "Network Settings" list.
[07:17] <johnsie2k> Is there anything I can do to fix th
[07:17] <ompaul> spstarr_work, ahh I read wince
[07:17] <TPC> er.. a tab completion mistake made me remove /etc/cron.daily/standard, how do I get it back?
[07:17] <spstarr_work> :)
[07:17] <ompaul> spstarr_work, ahh I read since even
[07:17] <spstarr_work> i just wanna know when the next development begins once breezy is officially out
[07:17] <eyequeue> spstarr_work:  many apps in breezy were ahead of the debian version, so no need to worry about waiting for sid i think :)
[07:17] <Dreamglider> Blissex, yea mounting the floppy in terminal is no problem
[07:17] <axeus> Oops. I mean.. it's not classified as a "beta" ?
[07:17] <spstarr_work> eyequeue, true
[07:17] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, duh I should have thought of that. running in terminal says 'require' No such file to load -- gnome_art (LoadError)
[07:18] <ompaul> spstarr_work, next thing will be ehh is it better than etch - you will see that on the 14th
[07:18] <basti__> Could anyone be kind enough to help me set up a samba share between my ubuntu and a Windows XP virtual machine?
[07:18] <johnsie2k> dang
[07:18] <TiMiDo> !info require
[07:18] <TiMiDo> bla
[07:18] <Dreamglider> now how can i make a rescue disk it somthing were to happend to my system +?
[07:18] <Blissex> Dreamglider: however I am astonished that it does not work with right-click on icon and select 'mount'.
[07:18] <TiMiDo> check if there's any bugs on it xml-blog
[07:18] <spstarr_work> is there an official 'name' for the next tree? :)
[07:18] <ompaul> spstarr_work, yes, dapper drake
[07:18] <johnsie2k> looks like I'll have to uninstall Ubuntu and go back to Windows :-(
[07:18] <Blissex> Dreamglider: what you want is a resscue CD, and the GNOPPIX/Live Ubuntu CD is perfect for that.
[07:18] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, can you provide a pointer no clue where to go
[07:19] <spstarr_work> ok so i should look for 'dapper' in project pool once its begun
[07:19] <TiMiDo> xml-blog: give me a second
[07:19] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, thanks
[07:19] <ompaul> johnsie2k, why do you say that? (Ive just come back from dinner)
[07:19] <Dreamglider> Blissex, not a floppy made on THIS pc wich has configurations for this pc !
[07:19] <Blissex> Dreamglider: rescue CDs are a lot more useful than rescue floppies, and they come in all sort of sizes and flavours.
[07:19] <TiMiDo> xml-blog: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[07:19] <Blissex> Dreamglider: ahhhh, bad news there...
[07:19] <Chapo> Is anobody speak french, please ?
[07:20] <Blissex> Dreamglider: if you want to have a backup of your current configuration, not good.
[07:20] <johnsie2k> cos I can see my wi-fi card in my device manager list but not in my netwrok settings list
[07:20] <TiMiDo> Chapo: join #ubuntu-fr
[07:20] <spstarr_work> so by ~ the 14th of October, dapper begins development ?
[07:20] <TiMiDo> !fr
[07:20] <ubotu> I heard fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:20] <Dreamglider> Blissex, ok well i have Knoppis and slax
[07:20] <Dreamglider> Blissex, KnoppiX
[07:20] <Dreamglider> on a DVD
[07:20] <Blissex> Chapo: try #Linux-Quebec for example, if the main #Ubuntu-FR channel is sluggish.
[07:20] <Chapo> thx Ubotu !
[07:20] <Blissex> Dreamglider: thats about the same as Knoppix.
[07:20] <N6REJ> morning everyone.
[07:20] <spstarr_work> i can wait 3 days, sure for drapper to begin
[07:20] <TiMiDo> lol thanks me Chapo
[07:20] <TiMiDo> morning N6REJ
[07:20] <_iGadget_> evening
[07:20] <ompaul> !tell Chapo about ubotu
[07:21] <Blissex> Dreamglider: as to saving your config, it is a mess. You can try backing up all modified files under '/etc',
[07:21] <kresten> Does anybody know if it is possible to get j2re via the repositories?
[07:21] <TiMiDo> !tell kresten about javadeb
[07:21] <basti__> !swat
[07:21] <ubotu> swat is probably Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[07:21] <tedi> oups
[07:21] <TiMiDo> read kresten what ubotu post ya
[07:21] <guti_> ubuntu espaol?
[07:21] <spstarr_work> !es
[07:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:21] <_iGadget_> guys... if I want to clone my /dev/hdc to /dev/hdd... can I just simply say 'dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd'?
[07:21] <Dreamglider> Blissex, there is one thing tho, my cd/dvd drive on my laptop is dead so i cannot use a live cd/dvd on it
[07:21] <xiaogil> my hoary system used to be in chinese, now it's completely reinstalled with breezy preview cd, i have put my .evolution drawer in ~/, and i always get the following error msg now : Error while Storing folder 'Inbox'.
[07:21] <xiaogil> Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync. What can i do to solve this problem ?
[07:21] <_iGadget_> or will I be seriously messing my /dev/hdd up :)
[07:21] <N6REJ> I've been studying about configuring my server, and I found a document that describes a setup for hoarty, but it wants me to install "qoutas" and I'm wondering if thats necessary/desirable
[07:22] <Blissex> Dreamglider: thats very bad news. However there are a few rescue floppies still around.
[07:22] <tedi> fr???????????????????????????
[07:22] <TiMiDo> xiaogil: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:22] <ompaul> _iGadget_, if they are the same size and make you could do that
[07:22] <ompaul> !fr
[07:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:22] <xiaogil> TiMiDo: i did it already
[07:22] <Blissex> Dreamglider: have look on the web for RIP and TomsRTBT. They are probably the best rescue floppies.
[07:22] <TiMiDo> xiaogil: any errors?
[07:22] <kresten> ???
[07:22] <xiaogil> TiMiDo: without any result conerning evolution
[07:22] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, thank you for the link
[07:22] <_iGadget_> ompaul: well... they're not... /dev/hdd is twice as big actually
[07:22] <TiMiDo> xml-blog: np
[07:22] <Dreamglider> Blissex, is there no way to make a rescue floppy, wich one can boot from for ubuntu
[07:22] <TiMiDo> xiaogil: do sudo apt-get install locales
[07:23] <xiaogil> TiMiDo: already installed
[07:23] <N6REJ> TiMiDo: they updated the locales package yesterday evening
[07:23] <TiMiDo> yes they did,
[07:23] <tedi> il y a pas de francais     OUPS
[07:23] <Blissex> Dreamglider: not really. The recent kernels dont fit on a floppy.
[07:23] <TiMiDo> tedi: #ubuntu-fr
[07:23] <_iGadget_> ompaul: I basically need to switch the two drives... but I need my data :)
[07:23] <N6REJ> :)
[07:23] <HappyFool> Dreamglider: maybe check out tomsrtbt (if it's still going)
[07:23] <ompaul> _iGadget_, ahh here is what I would do in that case :)
[07:23] <spstarr_work> tedi: Parlez Francais avec #ubuntu-fr
[07:24] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  man cp, cp -a may be all you need
[07:24] <N6REJ> TiMiDo: whats your take on the necessity or lack there of of qoutas on a server?
[07:24] <tuxuntu> Hello! I'm using breezy (upgraded from hoary today). Now my umlauts are not working anymore. I found a bug at bugzilla, but that didnt help either. Anyone has an idea?
[07:24] <Dreamglider> cant i just get grub on a floppy, and boot from it if somthing happens ?
[07:24] <TiMiDo> ?? N6REJ
[07:24] <xiaogil> spstarr_work: don't blame my mother tongue
[07:24] <PalleLap> tuxuntu, In what kind of applications?
[07:24] <TiMiDo> tuxuntu: wait until they fixed the nug
[07:24] <_iGadget_> eyequeue: I'll look into that... but let's wait what ompaul has to say first ;)
[07:24] <TiMiDo> *bug
[07:24] <tedi> trop dur pour moi je quitte
[07:25] <cycom> so is VLC fixed yet? :)
[07:25] <spstarr_work> xiaogil, no, i blame the Ontario public school ;) but thats offtopic and for some other #channel
[07:25] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  man rsync too, i like rsync /foo/ bar/, even locally and yes the trailing slashes are important
[07:25] <axeus> um.
[07:25] <TiMiDo> spstarr_work: the next release is called Dapper 6.04
[07:25] <axeus> Yep.
[07:25] <N6REJ> TiMiDo: I'm following a doc I found regarding getting hoary into a good quality server, but I'm using breezy, and it recommends installing quotas but gives no reason why... I'm wondering why/if I want them turned on.
[07:25] <spstarr_work> TiMiDo, ok good stuff
[07:25] <WinZ> Anybody knows how to check HDD under Ubuntu? (bad clusters etc..)
[07:25] <N6REJ> spstarr_work: due out April 2006 :D
[07:25] <HappyFool> WinZ: i think 'badblocks' does that
[07:26] <ompaul> _iGadget_, move hdd to hdc and visa versa, reinstall from scratch, copy all the updates from the second drive make a nice large /home directory on the _new_ hdc and copy any things you need - then I would go poking around a bit, and make the old drive a place where you back up your "spare files" configs and /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:26] <TiMiDo> WinZ:  man fdisk
[07:26] <spstarr_work> Tedi, se joignent svp # ubuntu-franc pour l'aide de langue franaise sur Ubuntu.
[07:26] <ompaul> _iGadget_, so yes cp but not the way you expected :)
[07:26] <WinZ> thanks!
[07:26] <spstarr_work> grr stupid google
[07:26] <Hieronymus> Hello
[07:26] <Hieronymus> I think I messed up my /home
[07:26] <TiMiDo> why?
[07:27] <Hieronymus> It's on a lvm, and when I ls it, it appears empty
[07:27] <_iGadget_> eyequeue / ompaul: I see... but then I'd have to create partions first on /dev/hdd... hmmm... man mkfs :D
[07:27] <Hieronymus> jeroen@jeroen:~$ df -h /home/jeroen/oudehome/
[07:27] <Hieronymus> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:27] <Hieronymus> /dev/mapper/ubuntu-home 91G   33M   86G   1% /home/jeroen/oudehome
[07:27] <TiMiDo> Hieronymus: did you do something to it?
[07:27] <Hieronymus> TiMiDo: not really
[07:27] <TiMiDo> well ypu
[07:27] <Hieronymus> TiMiDo: not something that would obviously delete it..
[07:28] <TiMiDo> bla
[07:28] <TiMiDo> so who messed it up?
[07:28] <N6REJ> Hieronymus:  try ls -la
[07:28] <Hieronymus> drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4096 2005-10-12 18:06 .
[07:28] <Hieronymus> drwxr-xr-x  17 jeroen root 4096 2005-10-12 19:10 ..
[07:28] <Hieronymus> N6REJ: ^
[07:28] <N6REJ> hehheh ooops
[07:29] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  yes, cp and rsync require a mounted filesystem first, whereas dd operates on unmounted
[07:29] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: it looks ok to me, though why does your home dir belong to the 'root' group ?
[07:29] <N6REJ> TiMiDo: looks like alot is missing lol
[07:29] <_iGadget_> eyequeue: exactly... that's why I figured dd would be my best bet - just dd everything, swap disks... done.
[07:30] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: uhm, I don't know. I added a /home/jeroen on the root filesystem
[07:30] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: because my /home is messed up
[07:30] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  that sort of thing works best if the devices are physically identical though
[07:30] <johnsie2k> I have a
[07:30] <johnsie2k>  Marvell W8300 wi-fi card. Doesn anyone know how to set it up?
[07:30] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: oh, sorry, .. belongs to jeroen
[07:30] <N6REJ> HappyFool: shouldn't he at least have a .bashrc file?
[07:30] <spstarr_work> Bugzilla Bug #8879 - Any word on the solution to two PCI cards sharing same PCI ID information my friend cannot install Ubuntu on his box because of the SCSI controller issue (see bug)
[07:30] <_iGadget_> eyequeue: I see.. so I could seriously mess up /dev/hdd if I tried? :s
[07:31] <HappyFool> N6REJ: i think that is '/home', not '/home/jeroen'
[07:31] <gfxstyler> hi
[07:31] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: what does 'ls -ld /' say ?
[07:31] <TiMiDo> oh man i love reading the documentation of breeze
[07:31] <Hieronymus> ehm, this is /home/jeroen/oudehome, on which I mounted my home partition
[07:31] <N6REJ> HappyFool: good point.
[07:31] <TiMiDo> hi gfxstyler
[07:31] <Hieronymus> /home/jeroen I created on the / FS
[07:31] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  guessing, you could end up with a device that can only see half of itself?  if you do try it, let me know heh
[07:31] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: ah, ok
[07:31] <N6REJ> TiMiDo: what doc? LOL
[07:31] <TiMiDo> http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[07:31] <wrabbit01> Can somebody help please.  I'm trying to install a windows wifi card driver and it is asking my to run an s root
[07:31] <wrabbit01> no idea what that is
[07:31] <wrabbit01> :|
[07:32] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: 31 < HappyFool> Hieronymus: what does 'ls -ld /' say ?
[07:32] <TiMiDo> wrabbit01: sudo
[07:32] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: drwxr-xr-x  21 root root 4096 2005-09-28 16:57 /
[07:32] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: maybe you can paste the output of 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin?
[07:32] <gfxstyler> i have a very serious problem in breezy: after i updated breezy today i cannot start VLC anymore because it loads the mac osx skin by default, which does not work for me :/ any way to fix this?
[07:32] <ivanox> hmm, this is weird =( after having runned vmWare once with sudo (to be able to change a setting) I cannot run it as normal user again..
[07:32] <wrabbit01> TiMiDo, so I don't have to restart or anything.  Just put sudo in front of the command?
[07:33] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: are you quite familiar with lvm / mounting etc ?
[07:33] <TiMiDo> yes wrabbit01
[07:33] <N6REJ> TiMiDo: PFFFFT... I've got more documentation on how to use my Toilet *sigh* only thing I really don't like about ubuntu
[07:33] <wrabbit01> thanks TiMiDo
[07:33] <TiMiDo> np wrabbit01
[07:33] <_iGadget_> eyequeue: gheh :) Well I don't know how 'lowlevel' dd copies everything... I kind of wanted to just copy the existing partitions to the new drive using partion magic / pqdi, but it refuses to copy ext3 / xfs partitions...
[07:33] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: the output of 'lvscan' might be good too
[07:33] <warpforge> I need help with ps2pdf. The output I get has colored rectangles or nothing instead of the actual text.
[07:33] <Crube> Can I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy and get everything working just the way things would when installing Breezy from a CD
[07:33] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: auth.log: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3015
[07:34] <TiMiDo> !backup
[07:34] <ubotu> TiMiDo: I haven't a clue
[07:34] <gfxstyler> Crube: yes
[07:34] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: familiar with mounting, not with lvm
[07:34] <frank23> Crube: yes
[07:34] <eyequeue> Crube:  starting with a working hoary?  yes
[07:34] <Nomikos> anyone running MacOnLinux on Ubuntu?
[07:34] <TiMiDo> ubotu: backup <reply> backup it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html read it and it tell you how to backup
[07:34] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, TiMiDo
[07:34] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3016 mount
[07:34] <N6REJ> I THINK I know this one but I'm gonna watch and see
[07:34] <TiMiDo> ubotu, backup <reply> backup it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html read it and it tell you how to backup
[07:34] <eyequeue> ubotu:  telll Crube about upgrade2breezy
[07:34] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell Crube about upgrade2breezy
[07:35] <TiMiDo> ubotu, backup backup it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html read it and it tell you how to backup
[07:35] <ubotu> TiMiDo: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:35] <TiMiDo> bla
[07:35] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3017 sudo fdisk -l
[07:35] <N6REJ> lol@timido
[07:35] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3018 sudo lvscan
[07:35] <TiMiDo> that's why i don't like blootbots
[07:35] <Crube> eyequeue I already upgraded, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything by doing that instead of installing breezy itself :)
[07:35] <N6REJ> !qouta
[07:35] <ubotu> N6REJ: What?
[07:35] <warpforge> blootbots?
[07:35] <N6REJ> hmmm
[07:35] <N6REJ> !qoutas
[07:35] <ubotu> N6REJ: No idea
[07:35] <TiMiDo> blootbot
[07:36] <TiMiDo> !blootbot
[07:36] <ubotu> TiMiDo: Wish i knew
[07:36] <TiMiDo> !info blootbot
[07:36] <ubotu> blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-5.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[07:36] <N6REJ> hehehhe
[07:36] <_iGadget_> hmmm... or I could wait for breezy to come out and start all over... But I'm just too impatient :)
[07:36] <eyequeue> Crube:  no, you now have "breezy itself" (minus any last-minute chages before release)
[07:36] <N6REJ> !info qouta
[07:36] <HappyFool> N6REJ: it's 'quota' and ubotu doesn't know about it as a factoid
[07:36] <Crube> eyequeue that is good :)
[07:36] <HappyFool> please play with the bot in pm
[07:36] <N6REJ> HappyFool: sorry
[07:37] <N6REJ> HappyFool: any reason I would/would'nt want to run qoutas on my server?
[07:37] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: well, i'm not very familiar with lvm but this doesn't look to good
[07:37] <Crube> Somehow Breezy feels alot faster than Hoary. I'm running it on an old computer and it works alot faster for some reason :S
[07:37] <_iGadget_> so... upgrading to to breezy is simply replacing all 'hoary' entries in sources.list with 'breezy', apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:37] <warpforge> um.... sure
[07:37] <eyequeue> right
[07:37] <gfxstyler> question: totem-xine or gxine ?
[07:37] <HappyFool> N6REJ: if you mean disk-space quotas, it might be a good idea if you have several users
[07:38] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: nope.. I think I messed up while playing with pbuilder and other packagebuilding stuff.. (see my auth.log0
[07:38] <N6REJ> HappyFool: 6 plus the 2 websites
[07:40] <jeff303> I have a little problem... after booting up today I got some message about some processes dying, and asking me if I wanted to restart them
[07:40] <jeff303> I just restarted the computer, now the "task bar" or whatever it's called at the bottom is blank
[07:40] <Hieronymus> jeff303: the gnome-panel?
[07:40] <jeff303> Hieronymus: that could be it
[07:41] <N6REJ> ?
[07:41] <TiMiDo> ??
[07:41] <Hieronymus> jeff303: what happens if you press alt+F2, type in gnome-panel and hit enter?
[07:41] <pigeta> hi
[07:41] <TiMiDo> pigeta: hello
[07:41] <N6REJ> Still don't know if I should use qoutas or not.
[07:41] <pigeta> im italian
[07:41] <jeff303> Hieronymus I've detected a panel already running,
[07:41] <jeff303> and will now exit.
[07:41] <TiMiDo> pigeta: go to #ubuntu-it
[07:42] <TiMiDo> tell pigeta about it
[07:42] <TiMiDo> !tell pigeta about it
[07:42] <jeff303> Hieronymus: actually in system monitor there are two instances showing up
[07:42] <vengeful> lol you dont even know what he wants yet ;-)
[07:42] <d3vice> hi
[07:42] <Hieronymus> jeff303: so it is there already :/
[07:42] <_iGadget_> hmmm... there's mkfs.reiserfs and mkfs.reiser4... which one should I use?
[07:42] <Hieronymus> jeff303: how about killing these 2 gnome-panels?
[07:42] <TiMiDo> it is for people that speak italian vengeful
[07:42] <PalleLap> !tell PalleLap about ru
[07:42] <vengeful> maybe he speaks english
[07:42] <TiMiDo> _iGadget_: whatever you want
[07:43] <_iGadget_> Timido: sure, but which one is better? :)
[07:43] <TiMiDo> mkfs4
[07:43] <jeff303> Hieronymus: one of them keeps restarting itself
[07:43] <_iGadget_> Timido: allright... I'll take that one
[07:43] <vengeful> !tell Toma- about au
[07:43] <jeff303> Hieronymus: but it still didn't fix the bottom bar
[07:43] <Hieronymus> jeff303: that's actually normal behaviourd, I think
[07:43] <vengeful> hehe
[07:43] <Toma-> ...
[07:43] <jeff303> Hieronymus: makse sense
[07:44] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, i think i figured out why gnome-art not working for me. I compiled my own ruby (/usr/local/bin) so I probably don't have the 'gnome_art' lib require wants. just thought i'd pass it on
[07:44] <jeff303> Hieronymus: could this have to do with having bad sectors on my disk?
[07:44] <vengeful> sorry toma just a joke
[07:44] <Toma-> right.
[07:44] <d3vice> will breezy work well with two soundcards ?
[07:44] <Hieronymus> jeff303: I don't know
[07:44] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: hmm. I'm not really sure i can help. It's not obvious to me which command would break things, though all those umounts and mounts look a bit suspect
[07:44] <johnsie2k> Anyone have the Marvell w8300 drivers????????
[07:44] <TiMiDo> oh no wonder xml-blog
[07:44] <Hieronymus> jeff303: ask someone else
[07:44] <TiMiDo> brb
[07:44] <xml-blog> TiMiDo, yeah I did that a while back since hoary's Ruby wasn't Rails compatible
[07:45] <N6REJ> nobody has opinoin on qoutas?
[07:45] <TiMiDo> and she's buying a stair way to heaven
[07:45] <N6REJ> grrrrr quotas even
[07:46] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: that was after it messed up
[07:46] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: I tried to 'solve' it
[07:46] <syli725> hi, what is network config command in ubuntu? in fedora, that is just system-config-network.
[07:46] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: Do you know of a command that can see whether there's still dat on the disk? (And restore it if possible)
[07:47] <HappyFool> so after the debootstrap it was broken ?
[07:47] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: yeah, somewhere at that point
[07:47] <d3vice> will breezy work  with two soundcards ?
[07:47] <xxtreme> sector10
[07:47] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: it was a few commands before the mount/umount stuff
[07:47] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: maybe a combination of lvscan and lvdisplay
[07:47] <eyequeue> syli725:  are you looking for 'man5 interfaces'
[07:47] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: I hadn't realised it immediately
[07:47] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: 'man lvm' lists a number of lvm related commands
[07:48] <syli725> eyequeue, i don't understand that. i am looking for a network config GUI program.
[07:48] <syli725> my kubuntu can't detect my network card ?? that is really weird.
[07:48] <navyn> nalioths_dog, don't you ever sleep?  do you live on here?
[07:48] <eyequeue> syli725:  gui i cant help with
[07:48] <jeff303> Hieronymus: ok, that's interesting, I just added the program list and workspace switcher to the panel and now it's back to normal
[07:48] <jeff303> Hieronymus: guess they just got taken off somehow
[07:48] <_iGadget_> d3vice: as long as they're not conflicting in hardware, I guess it should work
[07:48] <thorn> hello
[07:49] <jeff303> Hieronymus: thanks for your tip about the process though
[07:49] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3019 lvscan and lvdisplay
[07:49] <syli725> hi, guys, what to do? my kubuntu can't find my network card !?
[07:49] <Earered> hello, Nautilus is acting strangely with me under Breezy, I would like to know if I'm alone?
[07:49] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: _looks_ normal to me
[07:49] <ckrueger> anyone know how to enable vino/remote desktop through the shell?
[07:49] <eyequeue> syli725:  it doesn't show up in dmesg|less ?
[07:50] <syli725> eyequeue, it doesn't show up in ifconfig.
[07:50] <axeus> Anyone know of a program to shadow windows in gnome?
[07:50] <ompaul> Tuxar1a
[07:50] <eyequeue> syli725:  that lists interfaces, not hardware
[07:50] <syli725> eyequeue, i never use dmesg. so i can't say much about the output.
[07:50] <d3vice> _iGadget_, thx
[07:50] <navyn> axeus, what do you mean by shadow?
[07:50] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: I'm not really sure whether it's lvm-related. I never messed with lvm
[07:50] <syli725> eyequeue, can you tell me what to grep?
[07:51] <_iGadget_> syli725: you need to know so basic info about your network card... what chip is it based on?
[07:51] <bslima> hey breezy is really coming out tomorrow ?
[07:51] <syli725> _iGadget_, sorry. i don't know hardware. i am really bad in hardware part.
[07:51] <navyn> axeus, i think you might be talking about transset
[07:51] <axeus> navyn: Drop shadows under windows.
[07:51] <_iGadget_> syli725: well... is it onboard or a separate pci card?
[07:51] <axeus> transset huh
[07:52] <eyequeue> syli725:  i really dont know your hardware, but 'dmesg | grep eth' might be a starting point
[07:52] <syli725> _iGadget_, separate card. that is a ibm laptop.
[07:52] <_iGadget_> syli725: I see... so it's a pcmcia card then?
[07:52] <dougsko> syli725: is it a wireless card?
[07:52] <Toma-> sif transset, you want xcompmgr for shadows
[07:52] <navyn> yeah there was a tut. in the hoary howtos, using transset and something else, xcommgr i think
[07:53] <leonel> just upgraded from hoary  to breezy  and there's no  bootsplash    any clue who to enable it ?
[07:53] <Toma-> axeus: you want dropshadows and transparency?
[07:53] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_RealTek RTL8139 ..... identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
[07:53] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: hrm, sorry, i'm out of ideas.
[07:53] <syli725> dougsko, no.
[07:53] <navyn> axeus, i hope it fairs better on your machine, than mine, it made things alot slower for me
[07:53] <nrbq> howdy, folks
[07:53] <nrbq> what a nasty evening this is turning out to be!
[07:53] <axeus> Toma- No transparency, just drop-shadows.
[07:53] <_iGadget_> syli725: well, that sounds familiar... not a pcmcia card then?
[07:53] <pmj> how can i print ntilde using us_intl keyboard
[07:53] <nrbq> Does anyone know of a good appy for Ubuntu that will slow sound files without changing the pitch?
[07:53] <axeus> navyn: What are your specs?
[07:53] <eyequeue> syli725:  dmesg | grep 8139, it should be loading one of two drivers for that chipset
[07:54] <navyn> axeus, p4 2.6 ghz 1 gig ram
[07:54] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_, saw the output? i don't know what pcmia card means. sorry.  there is no such network configuration program in unbuntu? Jesus.
[07:54] <Dejavu> hi .. is there a PS2 Emulator  for Linux ?
[07:54] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: too bad :-( You don't know any program to restore data, do you?
[07:54] <Toma-> axeus: you need to write in a section and enable some stuff in xorg.conf first, restart X and run xcompmgr -C, after you download it of course
[07:54] <navyn> axeus, xcompmgr is what you need
[07:54] <axeus> Video card? Do you use vesa or proper drvers?
[07:54] <Earered> :(, it's the python-nautilus package that make it crash in fact, strange...
[07:54] <Toma-> google will help u get the section u need
[07:54] <eyequeue> syli725:  pcmcia is one of the fat credit cards that goes in the side of laptops
[07:54] <syli725> eyequeue, i saw 4 outputs now.
[07:54] <Toma-> axeus: use the real drivers. otherwise you'll slow down to a halt
[07:54] <_iGadget_> syli725: no idea, I always use the console for that :)
[07:55] <navyn> axeus, go to ubuntuforums, and check out the how to-s for hoary, its in there
[07:55] <axeus> Toma-: I've got proper drivers installed. i810's.
[07:55] <Toma-> gewd ;)
[07:55] <syli725> eyequeue, i can't paste. let me type it here if you want.
[07:55] <_iGadget_> syli725: pcmcia are those typical credit-card like cards used to extend laptops
[07:55] <mohkohn> Has anybody here worked with usermode linux?
[07:55] <syli725> eyequeue, 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
[07:55] <axeus> hermph
[07:55] <eyequeue> syli725:  its possible theres some gui app, but none in here now seem to prefer those things
[07:55] <mohkohn> In ubuntu?
[07:56] <Dejavu> hi .. is there a Play Station 2        Emulator  for Linux ?
[07:56] <syli725> eyequeue, 8129cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2
[07:56] <thenuke> Dejavu: there is no good emulator yet
[07:56] <thenuke> Dejavu: for any OS
[07:56] <eyequeue> syli725:  okay, 8139too is a good driver for that card, and it appears to be being loaded after autosensing
[07:56] <_iGadget_> syli725: what if you just type 'sudo ifconfig eth0 [ip] '?
[07:56] <nrbq> can anyone help me with recurring "Broken Packages" messages?
[07:56] <pigeta> but a ps2
[07:56] <syli725> _iGadget_, thanks for explaning what pcmcia is. but i still don't get it.
[07:56] <axeus> navyn: I'm in Breezy. But oh well.
[07:56] <pigeta> buy
[07:57] <navyn> Dejavu,  the only good one i think is ZSNES. lol
[07:57] <thenuke> Dejavu: some games might work like that you can fire them up but cant play. rest of the games wont work at all, and so on
[07:57] <navyn> axeus, it might work the same in breezy, not gonna promise that of course
[07:57] <Dejavu> and does ZSNES runs on Linux ? :D
[07:57] <funkyHat> >:(
[07:57] <mohkohn> I know I need kernel-patch-uml, kernel-patch-skas and uml-utilities
[07:57] <navyn> Dejavu, Yes,
[07:57] <syli725> _iGadget_, sudo reminds me that the installtion process never asked me give root password. what the hell?
[07:57] <Toma-> epsxe is an awesome playstation 1 emulator....
[07:57] <pigeta> google
[07:57] <funkyHat> mono-beagled is using 1.2GiB of Virtual Memory >:(
[07:57] <axeus> Dejavu: Yes, of course.
[07:57] <tarzeau> someone like to play with me http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ?
[07:57] <_iGadget_> syli725: well.. you're saying it's a separate card on a laptop... so I'm wondering what type of card it is, then
[07:57] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: thanks anyway
[07:58] <Hieronymus> Anyone knows of a tool to restore my files?
[07:58] <syli725> eyequeue, so what to do now?
[07:58] <_iGadget_> syli725: that's normal, there's no root passwd at default
[07:58] <mohkohn> But all the debian based tutorials tell me to install a package called user-mode-linux
[07:58] <eyequeue> syli725:  try System > Administration > Networking yet?
[07:58] <mohkohn> How do I apply a kernel patch?
[07:58] <mohkohn> Ubuntu style
[07:58] <_iGadget_> syli725: you do all root stuff using sudo
[07:58] <navyn> mohkohn, very carefully
[07:58] <syli725> _iGadget_, that's really weird to me. so how can I su to root now? i don't know password. i tried. i can't
[07:58] <HappyFool> !tell mohkohn about kernelhowto
[07:59] <Hieronymus> syli725: you use your own password, for _your_ user
[07:59] <Dejavu> oo lala .. better try it then !  has anyone tried so far btw ?
[07:59] <eyequeue> syli725:  su to root?  you may want sudo -s
[07:59] <mohkohn> thanks
[07:59] <_iGadget_> syli725: don't use su, use sudo instead
[07:59] <syli725> eyequeue, i am using kde. kubuntu. can't find those network tools.
[08:00] <navyn> i didn't know until the other day, that breezy has its own ubuntuguide included in the Help File.  That is cool
[08:00] <syli725> _iGadget_, does it mean ubuntu doesn't have root account? that's wierd.
[08:00] <LokeDK> glxgears.. it doesn't print fps?
[08:00] <Dejavu> axeus, have u tried it ? :D
[08:00] <Hieronymus> LokeDK: that's true, and it's not a bug
[08:00] <eyequeue> syli725:  oh, these are probably gnome things, ubuntu, i dont use gui for that so maybe kde lacks that, i dont use kde
[08:00] <axeus> Dejavu: No. Seen alot of screenshots of it under X though.
[08:00] <_iGadget_> syli725: you can enable it if you really want to, there's several howto's out there
[08:00] <LokeDK> Hieronymus, it used to do?
[08:01] <_iGadget_> syli725: I have kubuntu here... you need the control center
[08:01] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_, so what should I do now?
[08:01] <Hieronymus> LokeDK: the maintainer got angry at people using it as a benchmark tool
[08:01] <syli725> _iGadget_, kcontrol ?
[08:01] <LokeDK> oh okay.. what to use instead?
[08:01] <axeus> Flup @ searching forums for compmgr stuff.
[08:01] <Dejavu> axeus, looks like all they get is jusst one Frame and they upload it as a screenshot .. lol .    ;)
[08:01] <Hieronymus> LokeDK: you can still let it print fps though
[08:01] <_iGadget_> syli725: Control center -> Network settings
[08:02] <nrbq> am I likely to have to re-install to correct my "broken packages" errors?
[08:02] <_iGadget_> syli725: kcontrol? could be the same :)
[08:02] <LokeDK> Hieronymus, hmm how?
[08:02] <LokeDK> no man pages
[08:02] <navyn> hey guys, does SANE have an IRC room?
[08:02] <syli725> _iGadget_, yeah. i saw it. i clicked administration mode. it asked me password.
[08:02] <eyequeue> nrbq:  start with 'sudo apt-get -f install' first
[08:02] <selinium> apoZ`, Why do you wait half an hour before doing stuff?
[08:02] <Hieronymus> LokeDK: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:02] <_iGadget_> syli725: and did you try your own password?
[08:03] <syli725> _iGadget_, yeah, it works.
[08:03] <LokeDK> lol what a parameter :P but thanks
[08:03] <syli725> _iGadget_, ubuntu is weird.
[08:03] <Hieronymus> LokeDK: np
[08:03] <syli725> _iGadget_, really different from fedora
[08:03] <Hieronymus> syli725: sure is
[08:04] <_iGadget_> syli725: wohee... that's great (it doesn't seem to work here... but then again, my system is quite f*cked)
[08:04] <nrbq> eyequeue, no dice - it still complains
[08:04] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_, i can't enable the etho0 card
[08:04] <nrbq> I just installed this fresh this morning, so I'm not married to anything that's on here.
[08:04] <nrbq> I'ts just that it was doing this yesterday, too
[08:04] <nrbq> and it wasn't a problem on a different laptop earlier in the week
[08:04] <_iGadget_> syli725: what if you just try 'sudo ifconfig eth0 [ip] ' instead?
[08:05] <syli725> _iGadget_, what is [ip]  ?
[08:05] <nrbq> oh, well - might as well get started
[08:05] <cevizoglu> if you had a thinkpad t43 which reports bad cylinders every time you boot into ubuntu, (four times in a row), and then fsck reports there are bad blocks on the drive, would you scrap the drive, or just reformat it and try again?
[08:05] <nrbq> One thing, though
[08:05] <_iGadget_> syli725: the IP you want your network card to get
[08:05] <nrbq> Should I make sure I run an update after the initial installation before trying to apt-get anything?
[08:06] <cevizoglu> er, not bad cylinders but incorrect cylinder count
[08:06] <syli725> _iGadget_, you are professional.
[08:06] <_iGadget_> syli725: neah.... I'm a 'prutser' ;)
[08:06] <mohkohn> When you download patches or other source code into a specific source tree, you don't want anything else messing with it.
[08:06] <eyequeue> ifup eth0 will use dhcp if properly configured in interfaces(5)
[08:07] <syli725> _iGadget_,  eyequeue,  sorry. doesn't really work. i just saw eth0 in ifconfig. i thought that will work. but it doesn't. no route.
[08:07] <ckrueger> is there any way to enable remote desktop/vino via the terminal (through SSH)?
[08:07] <_iGadget_> eyequeue: I doubt it's properly configured... Or it would have worked right now, don't you agree?
[08:07] <El_Che> mmm, hibernation still dead in breezy (worked on hoary). I hope they fix it in time
[08:07] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  yep heh
[08:07] <mohkohn> Thats the only reference to patch on the whole page. What do I do with kernel-patch-uml
[08:08] <_iGadget_> syli725: so what does 'ifconfig eth0 [your IP here] ' do?
[08:08] <eyequeue> _iGadget_:  but he didn't like man 5 interfaces, wanted something gui, so i cant help
[08:08] <daaku> ckrueger: not sure about vino but you can run vncserver from the shell and connect to the desktop
[08:09] <_iGadget_> eyequeue: true, true ;)
[08:09] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_this is really weird. Both fedora and windows can easily do the job. ubuntu really disappoints me.
[08:09] <eyequeue> gui confuses me too much
[08:09] <El_Che> _iGadget_: system-administration-network?
[08:09] <ckrueger> k
[08:09] <eyequeue> syli725:  use what you prefer, really
[08:09] <_iGadget_> syli725: just because we don't know how to do it in GUI doesn't mean Ubuntu can't do it...
[08:09] <ckrueger> daaku, what command line flags should i run to have it connect to the root session?  just set the screen flag to 0?
[08:09] <syli725> _iGadget_, it doesn nothing. maybe. no output.
[08:09] <ernstp> http://zapp.no-ip.com/breezy/mail-notification_2.0-1_i386.deb
[08:09] <ernstp> Mail Notification 2.0 for breezy
[08:09] <ernstp> if anyone's interested
[08:10] <_iGadget_> syli725: if you didn't get an error message, it's probably up now... try 'ifconfig'
[08:10] <daaku> ckrueger: i dont think vncserver supports that, iirc it spawns its own server and session
[08:10] <axeus> flup
[08:10] <syli725> _iGadget_, fedora can auto detect everything. I don't need to configure at all. ubuntu can't enable my network. well. it is enabled now. but doesn't work.
[08:10] <syli725> _iGadget_, it is up. but i can't connect to anywhere.
[08:10] <xiaogil> i have deleted ~/.evolution drawer, but when i open Evolution, the configuration about account is still there, where is this configuration stored ?
[08:10] <eyequeue> syli725:  _iGadget_ and i just happen to know how to get our things working via command line.  maybe someone later will know some kde app
[08:10] <syli725> _iGadget_, even not in my LAN
[08:11] <_iGadget_> syli725: okay, does your card have a valid IP for your network?
[08:11] <ckrueger> daaku, dammit...
[08:11] <munke> i need some help im new to ubuntu and cant find firewall configurations in my desktop
[08:11] <syli725> _iGadget_, sure. as what I said. both fedora and  windows can work properly.
[08:12] <syli725> _iGadget_, for that laptop.
[08:12] <_iGadget_> syli725: okay... do you know the IP of your default gateway?
[08:12] <Hieronymus> _iGadget_: Nederlandse 'prutsers' zijn welkom op #ubuntu-nl
[08:12] <_iGadget_> Hieronymus: great... I'll see you there :D
[08:12] <syli725> _iGadget_, yeah, just 192.168.1.1. i edited in Routes under kcontrol. still doesn't work.
[08:13] <_iGadget_> syli725: type 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1'
[08:13] <eyequeue> syli725: no one says you have to stick with kubuntu, but you've given me enough data for me to know it's capable of dealing with your networking, i wouldn't give up because of that, but i sure dont know kde apps, you have to decide for yourself
[08:13] <paxmaster> ok I just install  a ubuntu server and it has a dvd burnder, how can i burn dvd in command line
[08:13] <kemik> growisofs
[08:14] <yuacht> please help, i get a error 104 and "server caught signal 11" trying to start x, latest breezy
[08:14] <lancellor> hey guys quick question i have a external hard drive and i have mi ubuntu system and a mac powerbook the instructions tellme i need to format my new drive on mac system partition what should i do do you think mac will read fat 32>>
[08:15] <Subliminal> has anyone else noticed mozilla hanging alot in breezy?
[08:15] <AndieB> HI all!
[08:15] <Spudchat> did you try to reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:15] <rob_p> munke:  Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall configuration utility by default.
[08:15] <Spudchat> yuacht
[08:15] <syli725> _iGadget_, no luck.
[08:15] <yuacht> Spudchat: yes i did
[08:15] <eyequeue> lancellor:  i thought mac used hfs, but a mac channel might have a more definitive answer
[08:15] <xiaogil> There's a configuration file for Evolution which is independant from the .evolution drawer, and that contains informations about the accounts, where is this file ? Someone can answer ?
[08:15] <Spudchat> i dunno then...that fixed the problem i had with it
[08:16] <munke> rob_p: thanks
[08:16] <Spudchat> sorry
[08:16] <lancellor> i want to put all my music amnd movies on the external hard drive and i want to use the power book with itunes but i used my ubuntu system 90 percent of the time
[08:16] <srid> how long before release?
[08:16] <AndieB> I've installed MySQL on my Hoary distribution, and aswell installed a GUI for managing the databases I have.. but WHERE do I find the file to execute?
[08:16] <_iGadget_> syli725: hmmm... It's kind of strange you're telling me you have a separate network card for your laptop... and yet it seems to be a rtl8139... Are you sure that's not the onboard NIC?
[08:16] <mohkohn> I seem to find tons of stuff on how to complie a kernel but not how to apply the patch
[08:16] <eyequeue> srid:  under 1 day, if all goes well
[08:17] <srid> ping
[08:17] <rob_p> munke:  Unless you have special requirements, you probably don't need a firewall anyway.
[08:17] <Skid> pong
[08:17] <Skid> :P
[08:17] <_iGadget_> Syli725: especially because the driver says it's pci
[08:17] <mohkohn> Or do I just need to apt-get install kernel-patch-uml and its done automagically?
[08:17] <syli725> _iGadget_, i don't know what is onboard NIC. But the card is separeted because I bought it separatedly. I plugged it in.
[08:17] <dbug> to fixed pachs pachs with apt-get, what comand is ?
[08:17] <dbug> to fixed pachs  with apt-get, what comand is ?
[08:17] <srid> eyequeue: today is Oct 13
[08:18] <srid> eyequeue: thanks for the update :)
[08:18] <raingrove> hey
[08:18] <raingrove> hello
[08:18] <raingrove> anyone?
[08:18] <raingrove> how do i extract RPM? instead of installing it
[08:18] <daaku> lancellor: try amarok, if you want a powerful media player its got everything itunes has and more
[08:18] <_iGadget_> syli725: plugged it in what exactly... describe that in more detail please... is it USB?
[08:18] <eyequeue> srid:  if all goes well <-- if they find some show-stopper bug, they will of course delay (horay was delayed a week)
[08:18] <daaku> lancellor: or if you just want itunes, you could always use vnc
[08:19] <eyequeue> raingrove:  "man rpm" should show the various options for that program :)
[08:19] <syli725> _iGadget_, no. plugged it into the laptop. half of card is inside the laptop. half of the card is outside the laptop.
[08:20] <raingrove> eyequeue: but i do not want to install the rpm package. i just want to extract the contents.
[08:20] <srid> eyequeue: then I should start downloading RC1 right away
[08:20] <srid> eyequeue: and do dist-upgrade?
[08:20] <syli725> _iGadget_, btw, i don't think this is important. I think there is something wrong with the OS network configuration. (maybe)
[08:20] <_iGadget_> syli725: so it's a credit-card like card?
[08:20] <eyequeue> raingrove:  "man rpm" should show the various options for the /usr/bin/rpm program, which is how you manipulate .rpm files
[08:21] <eyequeue> srid:  do you have any ubuntu installed presently?
[08:21] <syli725> _iGadget_, i don't really know what you mean with "card". it is like card. but not that thin. it is thick. thick card.
[08:21] <_iGadget_> syli725: it could very well be important, because if it's a pcmcia card, you need separate modules for that
[08:21] <raingrove> eyequeue: yes but is rpm able to extract rpm files?
[08:21] <eyequeue> rpm (8)              - RPM Package Manager
[08:21] <raingrove> eyequeue: if i am not wrong it can only install, upgrade, remove, query or build
[08:21] <syli725> _iGadget_, let me call t thick card now. it's not like credit card. that is really thin.
[08:22] <telonir> how do i install the nvidia drivers ( whats the package name) i cant find an "nvidia-kernel" package
[08:22] <_iGadget_> syli725: I know... it's like the size of a credit card, but way thicker. That makes it PCMCIA to me :p
[08:22] <_iGadget_> syli725: and for PCMCIA, you need separate modules... cardmgr and all that
[08:23] <rob_p> raingrove:  Maybe alien can help you.  man alien for info...
[08:23] <eyequeue> srid:  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade for upgrading, and yes the rc cd would be a starting point if you don't have ubuntu of any sort installed yet
[08:23] <srid> eyequeue: yeah, upgraded to breezy last month
[08:23] <syli725> _iGadget_, ok. so what to do? sorry to trouble you. i just don't know what to do...
[08:23] <GNULinuxer> can anybody tell me if the breezy release is on schedule?
[08:23] <_iGadget_> syli725: so what I believe, is that the rtl8139 is actually not the card you plugged in :)
[08:23] <telonir> in which repository the nvidia kernel driver is?
[08:23] <raingrove> rob_p eyequeue / that's right. alien is the tool.
[08:23] <telonir> (nvidia.o and friends)
[08:23] <srid> eyequeue: but I am planning to reinstall everything as I am going to install Windows for dual boot
[08:23] <_iGadget_> syli725: and that's why it's not working... Have you actually checked if your laptop doesn't a a network card build in?
[08:24] <srid> GNULinuxer: need not
[08:24] <eyequeue> srid:  follow the web page, but just an apt-get command pair should be all you need (update [dist-] upgrade)
[08:24] <GNULinuxer> sri: what?
[08:24] <raingrove> rob_p / thanks
[08:24] <syli725> _iGadget_, i pretty sure there is no card built in. that is old laptop. 5 years old.
[08:24] <srid> eyequeue: yeah, but I need to re-install .. so thought of waiting for breezy
[08:24] <eyequeue> raingrove:  alien will create a deb from an rpm
[08:24] <telonir> help?!
[08:24] <rob_p> raingrove:  no prob :-)
[08:25] <raingrove> eyequeue: i just want to convert rpm to tar.gz so that i can extract the files, not install them.
[08:25] <_iGadget_> syli725: the rtl8139 already existed in 1998 afaik...
[08:25] <Bad_Magic> anyone know why my trashcan and show desktop icons are gone with a breezy upgrade?
[08:25] <HappyFool> !tell telonir about nvidia
[08:25] <HappyFool> telonir: read that wiki page
[08:25] <syli725> _iGadget_, well. Please beleive me there is no build-in network card. I am stupid. but not like that stupid. please.
[08:26] <GNULinuxer> !tell GNULinuxer about breezy
[08:26] <eyequeue> srid:  fetch the almost-complete rc cd if you like, then apt-get update/upgrade in  a few days, or fetch the new cd in a few days ... i'd do the former, before the mirrors get bogged down heh
[08:26] <mohkohn> Does Ubuntu automatically patch with whatever kernel patches are in /usr/source when you compile?
[08:26] <lancellor> linux could read and write on mac file partition HFS+
[08:26] <mohkohn> Or is there a way to apply a patch?
[08:27] <_iGadget_> syli725: okay... but I've never heard of a pcmcia card with an rtl8139 chip. And I don't have much experience with troubleshooting PCMCIA either... so I guess you need someone more experienced than me :(
[08:27] <StR> hi all
[08:27] <dumaiso> Can anybody tell me if linux can read/write NTFS partitions or it is just read-only?
[08:27] <StR> I have problems with breezy + pear
[08:27] <eyequeue> syli725:  you're not stupid :)  but many obvious things are overlooked by experts even :)  online helpers learn not to presume too much :)  don't see an insult
[08:27] <Bad_Magic> read only unless youw ant to risk blowing up your ntfs partition
[08:27] <syli725> _iGadget_, thank you very much for your help. let me try something more before i give up.
[08:28] <kemik> dumaiso:  it's possible, but not worht the trouble
[08:28] <Skid> dumaiso: it can write to it, but you'll fuck your partition up :P
[08:28] <kemik> dumaiso:  read up about "captive"
[08:28] <TiMiDo> Skid: please behave
[08:28] <syli725> eyequeue, thanks. :)
[08:28] <dumaiso> ok... thanks
[08:28] <TiMiDo> !tell Skid about swear
[08:28] <Skid> ...
[08:28] <Bad_Magic> !icon
[08:28] <ubotu> Bad_Magic: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:28] <dumaiso> Skid:  and what about fat32?
[08:28] <Bad_Magic> fat32 = read/write
[08:28] <Skid> it's fine, dumaiso
[08:28] <dumaiso> thanks!
[08:28] <kemik> dumaiso:  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:29] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me why im missing a couple of icons since i upgraded?
[08:29] <mohkohn>  ../kernel-patches/all/apply/uml
[08:29] <TiMiDo> Bad_Magic: what icons?
[08:29] <mohkohn> Does that look sensible?
[08:29] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_, btw my mouse behave really slow. how to solve this? graphic card problem?
[08:29] <Bad_Magic> show desktop, trashcan, hard drive
[08:29] <dumaiso> kemik:  is it safe?
[08:29] <mohkohn> Then compile?
[08:29] <Bad_Magic> like they show up as generic icons (or an icon with an X in it)
[08:30] <vinnui> hi
[08:30] <yuacht> what does a "server caught signal 11" and error 104 in xorg mean? latest breezy, PLEASE need help!
[08:30] <kemik> dumaiso:  nothing is ever 'safe'
[08:31] <eyequeue> yuacht:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:31] <eyequeue> yuacht:  sig11 is typically hardware/memory
[08:31] <syli725> eyequeue, _iGadget_, I believe that my sound card is not working as well. maybe i should switch back to fedora.
[08:31] <dumaiso> kemik:  i'm just asking because people here said i can fuck my partition
[08:31] <yuacht> eyequeue: hmm, it worked just before i did the latest xorg upgrade
[08:32] <El_Che> syli725: copy you fedora config
[08:32] <mohkohn> How do you apply kernel-patch-uml?
[08:32] <kemik> dumaiso:  im not using it myself, but yes, it should be somewhat 'safe' ...
[08:32] <eyequeue> syli725:  i'm not much of a sound guy, but at least have fedora available until you can get someone that can help you get thing working, i'd say
[08:32] <syli725> El_Che, thanks for replying. not sure how. :)
[08:33] <raingrove> dumaiso: why exactly do u need to write to an NTFS partition
[08:33] <kemik> dumaiso:  but read the page i gave you
[08:33] <El_Che> syli725: have a look at /etc/alsa
[08:33] <mohkohn> syli725, I have the opposite problem to you. My sound works in ubuntu but not fedora!
[08:33] <syli725> El_Che, i deleted fedora in my laptop already.
[08:33] <WinZ> Anybody knows why mc doesn't change encoding by pressing Ctrl+T?
[08:33] <eyequeue> yuacht:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log <-- that file should give you as much info as xorg could figure out before it crashed
[08:33] <El_Che> syli725: ah ok
[08:33] <_iGadget_> syli725: to be honest - I'm still fuzzing around with my sound settings as well... maybe everything will work better with breezy ;)
[08:33] <DShepher1> kemik: drop that link again,,,,about NTFS
[08:34] <NaTeek> hallo
[08:34] <syli725> mohkohn, :)
[08:34] <kemik> DShepher1:
[08:34] <kemik> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:35] <yuacht> eyequeue: seems like it's failing when loading libglx.so (glx extension)
[08:35] <DShepher1> kemik: thanks
[08:35] <NaTeek> i want to open and save eps files with inkscape. but it didn't work. du i need to install sketch to import eps files?
[08:35] <mohkohn> syli725, plus I have to copy my xorg.conf from ubuntu to fedora. Some systems like some computers.
[08:35] <yuacht> eyequeue: glx module i mean
[08:35] <Bad_Magic> ooh i like the new theme
[08:36] <syli725> mohkohn, that's weird. if you don't like fedora, why do you use it? if ubuntu works perfect for you.
[08:36] <eyequeue> yuacht:  i did see mention of glx issues earlier in here (from you maybe though?)
[08:36] <syli725> mohkohn, i am using fedora right now to talk with you.
[08:36] <mohkohn> syli725, I have it on another partition. I want to know how to use both package systems
[08:36] <fredforfaen> after i did a dist-upgrade to breezy i have blended norwegain and english language in gnome and apps....any ideas?
[08:37] <yuacht> eyequeue: probably from me
[08:37] <yuacht> i wrote here earlier
[08:37] <occy> surely it has to be the 13th some place
[08:37] <eyequeue> yuacht:  i guess i'd search bugzilla on it (if an upgraded package doesn't pop up soon that is)
[08:38] <eyequeue> yuacht:  file a report if no one has yet too
[08:38] <mohkohn> By the way has anybody here who has been using breezy had problems installing skype?
[08:38] <syli725> mohkohn, why do you want to know how to use different package system?
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > I tried to install Adobe Reader, but if you enter the command (acroread), it just quits and does nothing. Is there a way to fix this?
[08:38] <cio> I'm thinking about switching from debian to ubuntu, can someone give me a really good reason?
[08:38] <paulproteus> cio: Everything will be slightly easier. ;)
[08:38] <Skid> cio: I run debian on all my servers, bar one - but moved from deb to ubuntu on my laptop & pc
[08:38] <eyequeue> cio:  6-month release cycle?
[08:38] <syli725> mohkohn, i saw that problem in ubuntu known problem list.
[08:38] <paulproteus> cio: Six-month releases are great.
[08:38] <Skid> basically it's better desktop support
[08:38] <nsomniac> cio : security
[08:39] <BlankB> cio: the people on #ubuntu are nice.
[08:39] <Skid> er, a better os
[08:39] <mohkohn> syli725, so I can study for the LPI and in the workplace you can encounter rpm and deb systems. Best to learn both
[08:39] <paulproteus> BlankB: Good point. :)
[08:39] <mwe> yuacht: libglx.so failed to load for me too before i linked /usr/X11/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[08:39] <cio> Great stuff, thanks guys!
[08:39] <syli725> mohkohn, yum is getting better. i just don't like selinux.
[08:39] <mwe> yuacht: after backing up the original /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[08:40] <dsmknld80> Hi I was thinking of running ubuntu on a laptop, i have a dell l400 does anyone recomend it?
[08:40] <dsmknld80> L400
[08:40] <flora> dsmknld80: yes
[08:40] <Skid> runs fine on my inspiron 8200, dsmknld80
[08:40] <popey> dsmknld80: i run ubuntu on a dell inspiron xps gen 2
[08:40] <popey> runs very nicely :D
[08:40] <mohkohn> syli725, you can switch off selinux. Or not activate it when you install.
[08:40] <Skid> hibernation supported out of the box too
[08:40] <El_Che> dsmknld80: hoary was great on my hP. Brezy doe not support hibernation, but it's not out yet. Proably they will fix it before it's out
[08:40] <cio> I'm going to install it on my OQO, which is why I asked.  Is Ubuntu based on another distro?  What package management system does it use?
[08:41] <raingrove> debian
[08:41] <raingrove> apt
[08:41] <dsmknld80> Awesome does the USB work ok
[08:41] <cio> Cool!
[08:41] <popey> dsmknld80: yes
[08:41] <raingrove> yea. it's the best ever
[08:41] <eyequeue> dsmknld80:  search for your laptop and support, but it's good on my laptop here
[08:41] <syli725> mohkohn, yeah, i know that. but it uses my hard disk. my laptop has small harddisk. :) hehe. anyway.
[08:41] <brainsail> when I logout in gnome I get the option "hibernate the computer". Is that software suspend2 or something else? and how can I resume?
[08:41] <raingrove> try Kubuntu, if u prefer KDE like me
[08:41] <lasindi[lappy] > Has anyone else here had trouble installing Adobe Reader on Ubuntu?
[08:41] <eyequeue> and hibernation is supported here on breezy
[08:41] <mohkohn> Yum and Apt have really improved Fedora. Plus I noticed Jeff Waugh (Ubuntu) developer keeps close tabs on their development for ideas for ubuntu.
[08:42] <dsmknld80> Thanks guys, also one more thing how much ram will it need, I have 128 on my L400 do you think it will be ok
[08:42] <raingrove> no
[08:42] <popey> dsmknld80: no
[08:42] <raingrove> lasindi[lappy] , i am running acroread find
[08:42] <raingrove> fine
[08:42] <popey> dsmknld80: i found it hard work in 256MB, not I have 2GB
[08:42] <popey> s/not/now
[08:42] <El_Che> eyequeue: mine worked great on hoary, that's why i am sure it will work again in breezy soon
[08:42] <eyequeue> brainball:  swsusp2, yes, and just reboot to the same kernel you hibernated from
[08:42] <raingrove> mohkohn, u mean there's Apt in Fedora?
[08:42] <mohkohn> Yes apt-rpm
[08:42] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : where did you install it? maybe you need the full path to acroread to execute it.
[08:43] <eyequeue> brainsail:    swsusp2, yes, and just reboot to the same kernel you hibernated from
[08:43] <[A] ndy80> I've java JDK 1.5.0 installed but my JAVA_HOME is not set. How can I know the right path?
[08:43] <lightx> question regarding QT giving me a hard time with mythtv build from svn always complaining about QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
[08:43] <raingrove> mohkohn, what's the difference between that and apt-deb?
[08:43] <mohkohn> raingrove, http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[08:43] <lightx> anyone have any clue on how to solve this?
[08:43] <raingrove> oh
[08:43] <albino> When are you guys planning on releasing breezy?
[08:43] <brainsail> eyequeue, but nothing happens after hibernate when I press the power button on this laptop
[08:43] <mohkohn> Same basic idea but works for rpm packages instead of debs
[08:43] <raingrove> today
[08:44] <HappyFool> lasindi[lappy] : there's a bug in acroread in hoary
[08:44] <Xyc0> What happened to the right click on desktop terminal option for Breezy?
[08:44] <coolkev> i just got breezy by adding th repos and using the update, and then i rebooted and got the ubuntu-base package.. i couldn't get the ubuntu-desktop package so i got he other xubuntu-desktop package
[08:44] <coolkev> and after i rebooted
[08:44] <eyequeue> brainsail:  does hibernate shut the machine down?
[08:44] <yuacht> mwe: i dont have a libGL.so.1.2
[08:44] <coolkev> my X won't start
[08:44] <raingrove> mohkohn/ oh crap. i migrated from FC4 to kubuntu because of apt-get! hehehe
[08:44] <HappyFool> lasindi[lappy] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcrobatHowTo
[08:45] <brainsail> eyequeue, no, the harddisk is still spinning
[08:45] <coolkev> i get this blue screen of death on ubuntu asking me if wanna view the problem but i can't move the cursor
[08:45] <coolkev> or anything
[08:45] <yuacht> coolkev: what error do u get? perhaps the same as me
[08:45] <eyequeue> brainsail:  breezy?
[08:45] <coolkev> i managed to get into console
[08:45] <eyequeue> brainsail:  check /etc/default/acpi*
[08:45] <lasindi[lappy] > HappyFool, thanks!
[08:45] <mohkohn> raingrove, personally I find ubuntu easier to work with. I use fedora more for learning. Destroying the system in order to learn it.
[08:46] <raingrove> haha
[08:46] <coolkev> maybe, yuacht... when the u start your computer nad ubuntu does the whole check thingy, at the end it's suppose to got that login screen, but it doesn't
[08:46] <mwe> yuacht: ok. I just saw libglx.so failing to load for you. what are you trying to do excatly?
[08:46] <eyequeue> mohkohn:  slackware was good for that too :)
[08:46] <coolkev> it ries a couple of times but fails
[08:46] <raingrove> mohkohn / i like to recommend ubuntu/kubuntu to linux newbies, but, the text mode installer really turn them down
[08:47] <coolkev> and shows a blue screen where it says X could not be started would you like to view the problem.. i try t press [enter]  but it doesn't respond
[08:47] <Kelraith> is it safe to install the kubuntu desktop on ubuntu?
[08:47] <yuacht> mwe: i just dont have the .2, i have .0.7667
[08:47] <raingrove> Kelraith, yes
[08:47] <hmrocha> hello, i want to change the gdm image, what should i edit?
[08:47] <coolkev> so i hit random keys till i got to console
[08:47] <mohkohn> I spent the last 4 days playing with gentoo. But it just got tiring. Had a functional ubuntu desktop with multimedia in one hour
[08:47] <Kelraith> Cool, I want to try it again, last time it broke gnome
[08:48] <raingrove> Kelraith, huh how did it break it?
[08:48] <coolkev> !breezy
[08:48] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:48] <NoUse> hmrocha run the login manager config in Gnome
[08:48] <Kelraith> gnome on login would take over ten minutes to display the desktop and then be fine. Shut down was the same ten minute wait
[08:48] <raingrove> Kelraith, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[08:48] <hmrocha> NoUse, the "human" theme is selected, i just want to change that image
[08:49] <solidgroove> breezy will be out tonight?
[08:49] <NoUse> I'm faily sure the image and the theme are closely tied
[08:49] <apokryphos> tonight/tomorrow depending on where you are
[08:49] <stianj> am I the only one with problems with beagle on breezy?
[08:50] <Kelraith> that what I used. I'm running breezy now... Some things are broken, but I am patient
[08:50] <tedi> BJ
[08:50] <psyke> quick question, and I checked online. I'm trying to access my ubuntu box via vnc (on windows), but when I enter the address into the viewer the connection is refused. Any ideas? I've configured ubuntu to allow remote access and setup the password
[08:50] <hmrocha> NoUse, i have an ubuntu image made by a friend, i just want to change the default ubuntu image to the image i have
[08:50] <Xyc0> What happened to right-click on desktop Terminal option?
[08:50] <Kelraith> Is there a way to install baldurs gate with wine?
[08:50] <NoUse> hmrocha I don't know, read up on the gdm docs and see if they say
[08:50] <brainsail> eyequeue, I have 5.04, and  /etc/default/acpi* is in its default state, acpi hibernation is enabled, does that conflict with software suspend?
[08:51] <raingrove> i am running breezy kubuntu
[08:51] <tedi> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;?
[08:51] <raingrove> things are fine except "systemsettings" that replaced "kcontrol"
[08:51] <tedi> c koi
[08:51] <apokryphos> tedi: what are you doing?
[08:51] <feugan3333> Hi all. How do boot without X. I want to install Nvidia drivers, but can't do so from with in X?
[08:51] <NoUse> raingrove you can install kcontrol
[08:52] <apokryphos> tedi: please don't be annoying
[08:52] <Renan`> feugan3333, change the virtual console?
[08:52] <raingrove> NoUse, yeap that's what i did
[08:52] <Renan`> i used this to install the NVidia driver here
[08:52] <tedi> pas de francais la dessus ?????????????
[08:52] <NoUse> feugan3333 are you following the nvidia instructions from the ubuntu wiki?
[08:52] <raingrove> NoUse, by the way. what's the difference between dist-upgrade and just upgrading every package using synaptic?
[08:52] <apokryphos> !fr
[08:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:52] <Subliminal> how do i install a .deb file i've downloaded?
[08:52] <feugan3333> NoUse: no on the nvidia site.
[08:52] <NoUse> raingrove dist-upgrade is designed for upgrading version of the distro
[08:52] <sockpuppe1> gr:
[08:52] <sockpuppe1> sh: gr: command not found
[08:52] <Renan`> Subliminal, sudo dpkg -i [file name] 
[08:52] <JazzCrazed> dkpg -i <name of file>.deb
[08:52] <Subliminal> ty
[08:52] <NoUse> !tell feugan3333 about nvidia
[08:52] <apokryphos> tedi: English only in here; join #ubuntu-fr
[08:52] <sockpuppe1> gr:
[08:52] <sockpuppe1> sh: gr: command not found
[08:53] <raingrove> NoUse: I just added the breezy sources and applied full upgrade using synaptic, does that have any problems?
[08:53] <Renan`> Sorry if this is a newbie question, but what is the difference between 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[08:53] <NoUse> raingrove I'm not sure, I don't use synaptic that much
[08:53] <dooglus> Renan`: dist-upgrade will add new packages, upgrade won't
[08:53] <Hieronymus> Renan`: dist-upgrade is 'smart'. Read man apt-get for more information on that
[08:54] <tedi> salut
[08:54] <Renan`> Hieronymus, will check. thank you
[08:54] <apokryphos> tedi: I don't want to tell you again... English *only* in here.
[08:54] <feugan3333> NoUse: Ok thanks.
[08:55] <feugan3333> Renan`: how do I change the virtual console. Do you mean ctrl-alt-f1?
[08:55] <tedi> c 'est la premiere fois que je suis la dessus !
[08:55] <xavier_> hello world
[08:56] <xavier_> salut tedi ... moi aussi
[08:56] <NoUse> feugan3333 don't install using the files from nvidia.com, follow those wiki instructions
[08:56] <apokryphos> xavier_: only English in here
[08:56] <xavier_> j 'avais deja fait un peu d'irc ... avec mirc ... MAis l je tourne sous python / ubuntu
[08:56] <HappyFool> !fr
[08:56] <ubotu> I heard fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:56] <xavier_> allright ... sorry man
[08:56] <Vivaldi> hello
[08:56] <Vivaldi> is ubuntu as stable as kubuntu?
[08:57] <feugan3333> NoUse: why's that?
[08:57] <Vivaldi> (ass long as kde is stable as gnome)
[08:57] <Hieronymus> Vivaldi: it's mostly the same, except for the packages
[08:57] <NoUse> feugan3333 because its better to install via the package manager
[08:57] <Vivaldi> ok
[08:57] <chrisx1> hey how do i get the root pass on ubuntu?
[08:57] <HappyFool> Vivaldi: same system underneath (kernel, libc, etc) so presumably
[08:57] <Spudchat> where can i set the display to a custom resolution?
[08:57] <TiMiDo> chrisx1: sudo -i
[08:57] <HappyFool> !tell chrisx1 about root
[08:57] <Hieronymus> Vivaldi: I'd say Ubuntu gets used more and is therefore more stable
[08:57] <xavier_> root is deactivated
[08:57] <eyequeue> chrisx1:  not advised
[08:57] <Vivaldi> i owuld prefer going with kubuntu rather than gnome
[08:57] <TiMiDo> or sudo -s
[08:57] <HiddenWolf> xavier_, not deactivated, just not activated
[08:57] <chrisx1> ah k
[08:57] <Vivaldi> just becouse i prefer kde
[08:58] <apokryphos> Hieronymus: then again, you can argue that kde is used more and is therefore more stable
[08:58] <chrisx1> just that tryin to install a sh file
[08:58] <chrisx1> n i cant
[08:58] <HiddenWolf> Vivaldi, then just install kubuntu-desktop :)
[08:58] <HiddenWolf> chrisx1, sudo
[08:58] <feugan3333> NoUse: Ok will do. But I'm still interested why I can't boot to console mode, or kill X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:58] <Vivaldi> HiddenWolf, you mean from ubuntu?
[08:58] <xavier_> how to activ it ?
[08:58] <TiMiDo> xavier_: sudo -s
[08:58] <chrisx1> its not found when i do that:S
[08:58] <HappyFool> !tell Spudchat about fixres
[08:58] <xavier_> oki thx
[08:58] <HiddenWolf> Vivaldi, ubuntu is ubuntu-base plus ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <HappyFool> Spudchat: maybe not exactly what you want, but it might get you started
[08:59] <HiddenWolf> Vivaldi, kubuntu is ubuntu-base plus kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <Vivaldi> ok
[08:59] <Vivaldi> i am confused
[08:59] <HappyFool> !tell xavier_ about root
[08:59] <Spudchat> ok cool ill check it out thx
[08:59] <hmrocha> NoUse, i changed the original background.png of the Human gdm theme to my png file :)
[08:59] <hmrocha> NoUse, worked perfectly
[08:59] <HiddenWolf> Vivaldi, you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package, and it'll draw in kde, and kubuntu-settings/artwork
[08:59] <NoUse> hmrocha cool
[08:59] <Vivaldi> so what do i need to download to have a kde system basedo n ubuntu?
[08:59] <xavier_> tedi , where you from
[08:59] <eyequeue> Vivaldi:  kubuntu
[08:59] <HiddenWolf> Vivaldi, kubuntu-desktop if you're already on ubuntu, or the kubuntu-iso if you want to install cleanly
[09:00] <HappyFool> Vivaldi: the kubuntu install iso would possibly be easiest
[09:00] <bmaurer> guys, is there any way to make sure that there is no long delay at boot on a laptop that's not plugged into the wired network
[09:00] <Hieronymus> bmaurer: press control-c to cancel the networking part
[09:00] <chrisx1> look sudo: ./installer-en.sh: command not found
[09:00] <bmaurer> a non-manual method...
[09:01] <eyequeue> bmaurer:  ^C at the apprpriate time shorts the delays here
[09:01] <Kelraith> anyone know of a good chess game
[09:01] <Vivaldi> ok
[09:01] <Vivaldi> are there repositories like in Fedora Core to install packages?
[09:01] <vinnui> Kelraith: xboard
[09:01] <NoUse> Kelraith check synaptic, theres a few in there
[09:01] <Kelraith> xboard?
[09:01] <apokryphos> Kelraith: 3dchess will probably do the job
[09:01] <NoUse> Vivaldi like apt-get?
[09:01] <Vivaldi> yes
[09:01] <HappyFool> !tell Vivaldi about repos
[09:02] <derf> bmaurer: pull the 'auto' lines out of your /etc/network/interfaces, as well as the lines for your wired interface underneath 'mapping hotplug' in the same file
[09:02] <Answer> haha that topic will only encourage more questions
[09:02] <Vivaldi> thanks
[09:02] <xavier_> What is the firewire i can instal on my ubuntu to link my other computer windows (sorry for this) onto my second eth card
[09:02] <HappyFool> firewall ?
[09:02] <chrisx1> derf look sudo: ./installer-en.sh: command not found
[09:02] <bmaurer> derf, can you pastebin an example of that
[09:02] <xavier_> firewire
[09:02] <xavier_> sorry I begin
[09:02] <apokryphos> Answer: what?
[09:03] <Answer> hehehe
[09:03] <HappyFool> firewire and ethernet are distinct things, afaik
[09:03] <derf> chrisx1: try giving sudo the full path, or run "sudo su -"
[09:03] <annex> You can network using firewire
[09:03] <annex> very fast from what I've heard
[09:03] <HappyFool> annex: plugging it into an ethernet card? ;)
[09:03] <annex> haha no
[09:03] <xavier_> well, I just want to activate my second card for a sub lan and route 80 on my windows comput
[09:03] <Madeye> guys I have directory with to many sub directories , and in each one there is mp3 files, I want to convert them all at once to ogg using mp32ogg, any useful command to do it all at once?
[09:04] <stpere> wouldn't it be better if they waited for the openoffice 2.0 release before releasing breezy?
[09:04] <HappyFool> Madeye: i don't know mp32ogg, but something like     find -iname *.mp3 -exec mp32ogg '{}' ';'    *might* work
[09:04] <DazeD||lap> can anyone help me partition in linux?
[09:05] <crimsun> stpere: absolutely not.
[09:05] <chrisx1> derf, it dont work
[09:05] <derf> bmaurer: http://dividedsky.net/~derf/interfaces-serenity
[09:05] <apokryphos> stpere: release dates are a regular thing
[09:05] <fredforfaen> after i did a dist-upgrade to breezy i have blended norwegain and english language in gnome and apps....any ideas?
[09:05] <pinucset> i have firefox beta 2 but it doesnt opens my gmail website account? :S
[09:05] <apokryphos> stpere: they can't be altered for such programs
[09:05] <crimsun> stpere: we can't wait for the latest version of everything before releasing our latest version, you know.
[09:05] <xavier_> MAdeye What about a |
[09:05] <eyequeue> stpere:  release is timed after grome's, cant wait for everything :)
[09:05] <tristanmike> DazeD||lap, what's your problem?
[09:05] <bmaurer> derf, that's almost exactly what i have
[09:05] <derf> chrisx1: "sudo su -" will give you a root prompt.  then, cd into the directory that you have your installer file in and run it
[09:05] <bmaurer> except no ath0
[09:05] <fredforfaen> how can i make all of the OS to be in my native language....hoary was all norwegain and worked fine
[09:05] <bmaurer> because i let networkmanager take care of it at boot time
[09:06] <crimsun> derf: please recommend sudo -s instead
[09:06] <derf> crimsun: will do
[09:06] <antgel_> hi all. i'm deciding whether knoppix or ubuntu for my parents' machine.  from a live cd pov, they prefer knoppix due to kde.  however i understand that that will leave them with a debian unstable system - eek!  is it a plan to install ubuntu and then aptitude install kde?
[09:06] <derf> crimsun: sorry
[09:06] <DazeD||lap> tristanmike, im trying to partition part of my ext3 and take some of the free space and make it unallocated i have live disc and qtparted and everything just wont work
[09:06] <crimsun> derf: np
[09:06] <HappyFool> antgel_: heard of kubuntu ?
[09:06] <bmaurer> derf, i have http://omega.res.cmu.edu/~benm/interfaces
[09:06] <raingrove> antgel_: install kubuntu
[09:07] <chrisx1> Derf, rroot@ubuntu:/home/chris/Desktop/Xlack-2.1 # ./installer-en.sh
[09:07] <chrisx1> -su: ./installer-en.sh: Permission denied
[09:07] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[09:07] <tristanmike> DazeD||lap, sorry, never used qtparted
[09:07] <nightswim> chmod 755 ?
[09:07] <antgel_> HappyFool, yep but don't have resources to burn cd here. is it not the same to aptitude install kde or kubuntu desktop?
[09:07] <apokryphos> antgel_: yes
[09:07] <eyequeue> chrisx1:  chmod +x it
[09:07] <HappyFool> antgel_: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop , afaik
[09:07] <apokryphos> antgel_: just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <xavier_> I do not know how to create a sub lan for my second eth card ... Any id ?
[09:07] <DazeD||lap> tristanmike, do you use something else that might work better...i  just need soemthing that i can partition some of my ext3 while inside linux
[09:07] <psyke> guys, I'm running breezy and I need to access my ubuntu install via vnc. I setup the "Remote Desktop" to allow sharing and enabled passwords, but I can't connect to the server. Can someone help? Do I need to manually run the vnc server?
[09:08] <HappyFool> chrisx1: try 'bash ./installer-en.sh'
[09:08] <antgel_> apokryphos, HappyFool, fine. so no aptitude install dke (a la debian). thanks.
[09:08] <fredforfaen> can anyone help me?
[09:08] <tiax> hey
[09:08] <apokryphos> antgel_: eh?
[09:08] <dougsko> DazeD||lap: fdisk can partition from the terminal
[09:08] <chrisx1> HappyFool, Ta That Worked
[09:08] <antgel_> apokryphos, s/dke/kde
[09:08] <xavier_> psyke > did you verify ports are closed from somewhere
[09:08] <DazeD||lap> dougsko, im going to need some help will you help me cuz i have never used fdisk
[09:08] <apokryphos> antgel_: oh, you can, but that will install a minimal amount of things
[09:09] <derf> bmaurer: pull out "map eth0"
[09:09] <antgel_> apokryphos, *nod*
[09:09] <bmaurer> ok
[09:09] <apokryphos> antgel_: installing kubuntu-desktop will bring in all the recommended kubuntu packs
[09:09] <bmaurer> what will that do?
[09:09] <Pickle_Weasel> DazeD||lap, ever used Partition Magic?
[09:09] <derf> bmaurer: it'll make hotplug not auto-up the interface on boot
[09:09] <DazeD||lap> Pickle_Weasel, yes i have ... can u get it for linux?
[09:09] <dougsko> DazeD||lap: i would like to but i actually have to go to class. im sure google can help
[09:09] <bmaurer> ok
[09:09] <Pickle_Weasel> DazeD||lap, then get gparted, it's pretty much a clone
[09:09] <bmaurer> why the fuck does ubuntu put that in by default
[09:09] <DazeD||lap> dougsko, ok thanks
[09:09] <Buddha|> Could someone suggest a lightweight wysiwyg html editor?
[09:09] <antgel_> apokryphos, is it then a case of changing /etc/alternatives/<something>?
[09:09] <DazeD||lap> Pickle_Weasel, so is qtparted but it wont let me resize my ext3 cuz its mounted
[09:09] <psyke> xavier_: forgive me, it's been years since I ran linux, do I need to check iptables? I have a hardware (wireless) router but the ports are open (I setup a Windows machine to connect via vnc already on the network)
[09:09] <apokryphos> antgel_: for what?
[09:10] <apokryphos> antgel_: see /msg ubotu installing kde   ...for other methods.
[09:10] <bmaurer> derf, so, does your configuration do "first try to map eth0, if that doesn't work, do ath0"
[09:10] <antgel_> apokryphos, default desktop environment
[09:10] <bmaurer> because that's what I want :-)
[09:10] <Kelraith> Buddha|: I use NVU works fine for me
[09:10] <apokryphos> antgel_: oh, nah -- that's changed directly from gdm/kdm
[09:10] <antgel_> apokryphos, *nod*
[09:10] <Pickle_Weasel> DazeD||lap, i see, i had the same problem, i didn't know how to fix it, and didn't think it was worth it, so i just did it from windows =\
[09:10] <xavier_> psyke > be cool
[09:10] <apokryphos> antgel_: unless you're using startx... where you do use update-alternatives
[09:10] <XamDM> anyone else uses nvidia-drivers in an x86_64 system ??, is there a way to disable iommu without recompiling the kernel ??
[09:10] <derf> bmaurer: my config brings up absolutely nothing on boot
[09:10] <DazeD||lap> Pickle_Weasel, see i only have linux and im trying to free up some space to install windows
[09:11] <bmaurer> oh :-(
[09:11] <derf> bmaurer: I "ifup $interface" depending on where I'm plugge din
[09:11] <NoUse> DazeD||lap boot froma livecd (knoppix or ubuntu live) and do it from there
[09:11] <bmaurer> i'd like to bring up eth0 automatically if there is a link
[09:11] <syli725> eyequeue, hi, still there?
[09:11] <derf> bmaurer: ah.  not sure how to do that
[09:11] <DazeD||lap> NoUse, use fdisk??? cuz i cant insatll anything from livecd
[09:11] <antgel_> thanks. one more before i get cracking...  i must say that at first glance, knoppix looked better for them in terms of hand-holding, wizards etc. generally speaking, is this a _knoppix_ thing or a _kde_ thing?
[09:11] <derf> bmaurer: try installing ifplug
[09:11] <syli725> how to add a new route? for  example i want to add this route: default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[09:11] <bmaurer> ok
[09:11] <apokryphos> antgel_: kde
[09:12] <apokryphos> for the most part at least, certainly.
[09:12] <NoUse> DazeD||lap knoppix has qtparted on it, so just run it from the CD and none of your drives should be mounted
[09:12] <antgel_> apokryphos, ok.  thanks a bundle for your advice. no doubt back in a day or ten.
[09:12] <Spudchat> allright that helped me fix the resolution
[09:12] <HappyFool> syli725: read 'man route'
[09:12] <syli725> how to add a new route destination is defaut. gateway is 192.168.1.1 ? gnemask is 0.0.0.0 ?
[09:12] <MEtaLpREs> is there any good howto's on setting up LAMP? the only one i could find was for warty and half of it was wrong
[09:12] <psyke> xavier_: I dunno if it allows loopback connections by default, but I tried vnc'ing from the same computer to localhost and even then the connection was refused, so perhaps the server isn't running?
[09:12] <antgel_> one more. i can see the /topic, so don't flame, but are we talking days or weeks for 5.10?
[09:12] <Spudchat> but the fonts still look goofy...any sdvice on that?
[09:12] <DazeD||lap> NoUse, ddamn i just spent an hour and ahalf downloading ubuntu livecd
[09:12] <syli725> HappyFool, i did that. but not 100% understand.
[09:12] <apokryphos> syli725: no need to flood; if someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[09:12] <NoUse> DazeD||lap ubuntu live might have it too, I'm just not sure
[09:12] <raingrove> antgel_ the projected date is actually 13/10/2005
[09:13] <Buddha|> Kelraith - Too many toolbars, etc.  I wanat something I can use on a laptop with a 12" screen
[09:13] <syli725> HappyFool, i can do route add default gw ??
[09:13] <DazeD||lap> NoUse, it doesnt
[09:13] <larsrohdin> breezy is to be released the 13th right? but in what timezone?=)
[09:13] <syli725> apokryphos, sorry, but i don't think I flooded.
[09:13] <raingrove> maybe South African
[09:13] <raingrove> hahaha
[09:13] <NoUse> DazeD||lap cfdisk?
[09:13] <HappyFool> syli725: sorry, i know dangerously little about routing
[09:13] <Buddha|> the 13th is tomorrow
[09:13] <antgel_> raingrove, how exciting. however, i have a 5.04 cd, so will use that then upgrade.  preferred way aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade?
[09:13] <Kelraith> Buddaha|: Oh, um... screem? Emacs?
[09:13] <NoUse> DazeD||lap oh nevermind you need to resizr
[09:13] <raingrove> antgel_ u have to modify the sources.list first
[09:14] <apokryphos> syli725: sure, but you were getting there; same question in two minutes. Patience. :)
[09:14] <raingrove> antgel_ : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:14] <antgel_> raingrove, *nod*, thought that was obvious.
[09:14] <antgel_> thanks again all, very helpful
[09:14] <raingrove> ya
[09:14] <raingrove> welcome
[09:15] <Buddha|> Kelraith - Screem looks about the same as NVU, and I don't want to have to enter all the tags by hand...
[09:15] <khermans_> will Breezy be released at midnight?
[09:15] <xavier_> psyke > maybe, you could have a conflict if you use same ports for two running servers
[09:15] <apokryphos> no
[09:15] <khermans_> we have a big LUG event tomorrow, hoping to hand out CDs
[09:16] <DazeD||lap> NoUse, yeah i need to resize
[09:16] <DazeD||lap> can't i use fdisk
[09:16] <dockane> i would like to know, what gimp print uses to create the postscript file and if there is a way to copy the options gimp generates from setting
[09:17] <khermans_> So what is the official release TIME of Ubuntu tomorrow?
[09:17] <dockane> i would like to know, what gimp print uses to create the postscript file and if there is a way to copy the options gimp
[09:17] <eyequeue> khermans:  you can hand out rc cds if you need to, and apt-get update;apt-get upgrade will bring them up to date
[09:17] <occy> khermans, heh
[09:17] <crimsun> khermans_: "sometime on the 13th of october, 2005"
[09:17] <khermans_> are the devs feeling good about it, or are they rushing to fix last minute things?
[09:17] <psyke> xavier_: nope, no vnc servers running
[09:17] <crimsun> hah, speaking of "october"X...
[09:17] <occy> crimsun, :P
[09:18] <eyequeue> khermans:  there's updates every few hours now :)
[09:18] <khermans_> i mean, is the breezy release essentially ready, or is it broken-being fixed
[09:18] <apokryphos> khermans_: finishing touches
[09:18] <khermans_> eyequeue, ok cool
[09:19] <HappyFool> how long does it take to build the iso image?
[09:19] <khermans_> apokryphos, only cosmetic?
[09:19] <crimsun> khermans_: we're all tied to our chairs eating pizza and drinking coffee in an effort to maliciously slide Windows(tm) via those dist-upgrades.
[09:19] <eyequeue> khermans:  there's always last-minute fixes, but unless something bad happens soon, expect it to be on schedule
[09:19] <apokryphos> khermans_: yes; build-testing etc
[09:19] <khermans_> HappyFool, probably howeevr long mkisofs takes, lol
[09:19] <Fionn> I just installed a box with ubuntu / xorg / DRI but now when I start any openGL application it immediately crashes with "illegal instruction". Any ideas?
[09:19] <da_bon_bon> its 13th here !
[09:19] <da_bon_bon> :D
[09:20] <da_bon_bon> how many hours from breezy ?
[09:20] <eyequeue> khermans:  some critical breakage, ubuntu has shown it's not afreaid to delay release if it has to (hoary was a week late) ... all is well so far :)
[09:20] <basvg> can anyone help me get cpufreq to work..? I've read a shitload of documents on this topic and I just can't seem to get it to work
[09:20] <eyequeue> da_bon_bon:  < 24 then, if you're utc :P
[09:20] <khermans_> apokryphos, crimsun, is the official ISO already built -- but in final testing?
[09:20] <da_bon_bon> hehe
[09:20] <da_bon_bon> eyequeue: IST
[09:21] <da_bon_bon> how do they "test" the iso ?
[09:21] <apokryphos> khermans_: it's being built/rebuilt
[09:21] <da_bon_bon> they cant install it on many machines, can they ?
[09:21] <apokryphos> da_bon_bon: download, install/run, see if everything's working 8)
[09:21] <eyequeue> the iso is just a snapshot of the current state, isn't it?
[09:21] <apokryphos> da_bon_bon: why not?
[09:21] <da_bon_bon> apokryphos: so an "elite" batch gets the final iso some time before ?
[09:21] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: we've all been testing the iso
[09:22] <xavier_> psyke > man, i canno find other things from my level
[09:22] <kbrooks> i have a huge problem coming on here
[09:22] <kbrooks> a BIG one
[09:22] <khermans_> our LUG event is in the morning, so i think I am going to make RC discs hrmmm
[09:22] <oris_wolfbane> how cna i change the location bar in brezzy back to how it was before?
[09:22] <crimsun> khermans_: I'd hold off about 12 hours
[09:22] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: we as in the devel time ?
[09:22] <da_bon_bon> *team
[09:23] <fredforfaen> Does anybody know how to change the laguage in breezy..gnome apps , cli ...all?..cant seem to find any info on it
[09:23] <fredforfaen> language*
[09:23] <da_bon_bon> fredforfaen: there is a language selector
[09:23] <eyequeue> khermans:  tell anyone that gets one to "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" after installing, if so, and thy'll have official breezy, by then
[09:24] <fredforfaen> da_bon_bon where?
[09:24] <kbrooks> eyequeue: No.
[09:24] <da_bon_bon> fredforfaen: iirc, system menu
[09:24] <Skidoo> hi. i haven't been able to boot ubuntu since i last ran an update (a couple of weeks ago). anyone have any idea how to fix?
[09:24] <da_bon_bon> cya ..
[09:24] <eyequeue> Fred:  System > Administration > Language Selector
[09:24] <da_bon_bon> will check in later on breezy :_)
[09:24] <NoUse> Skidoo we'll need much more detail
[09:24] <fredforfaen> da_bon_bon im talking about changing the system default language not in iirc
[09:24] <eyequeue> kbrooks:  no to what?
[09:25] <Skidoo> NoUse: that's ok. what detail do you need?
[09:25] <HappyFool> fredforfaen: iirc = if i recall correctly ;)
[09:25] <fredforfaen> HappyFool lol
[09:25] <NoUse> Skidoo error messages? what did you update?
[09:25] <kbrooks> eyequeue: think about it. would you suggest cli commands to a LUG of inexperienced people (in general)?
[09:25] <ichi> Can anyone help I'm trying to get rox to boot when i boot the box. I've a script in /etc/init.d then I ran sudo update-rc.d rox start 99 2 3 4 5 . stop 99 0 1 6. And if I run the script manualy it runs fine ?
[09:25] <basvg> hmm, `modprobe acpi-cpufreq` gives an `error inserting acpi_cpufreq, no such device`... which seems strange. `cat /proc/cpuinfo` shows that I have a GenuineIntel Pentium 4 in my laptop and the flags state that acpi is there (true, a lot of acpi stuff seems to work)
[09:25] <fredforfaen> eyequeue have no such thing in that menu
[09:25] <basvg> can anyone make more sense of this for me?
[09:26] <Answer> Sometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?
[09:26] <eyequeue> kbrooks:  hmm, a linux user group ... yes, sure, i tell non-linux-users cli commands, so i'd think a linux group could handle a keyboard and a specific command
[09:26] <DazeD||lap> can anyone help me partition from ubuntu?
[09:26] <Skidoo> NoUse: well, it looks like a kernel problem - the system hangs right after the kernel image decompresses
[09:26] <eyequeue> fredforfaen:  i'm on breezy here, might that be the difference?
[09:27] <NoUse> Skidoo have you tried booting the older kernel?
[09:27] <Greg_Wah> Eclipse won't install on breezy with apt
[09:27] <fredforfaen> eyequeue im on breezy to
[09:27] <eyequeue> kbrooks:  there's always synaptic if they can't though
[09:27] <Skidoo> NoUse: didn't see an option for that in Grub menu. i did try the "recovery mode" but that didn't work
[09:27] <Answer> Sometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?
[09:28] <NoUse> Skidoo if you upgraded he kernel, Ubuntu should have kept the previous kernel version in the grub menu
[09:28] <raetsel99> Evening everyone, I've just installed hoary for powerPC on my emac and the sound is very quiet and has really rapid "decay"  any suggestions?
[09:28] <eyequeue> fredforfaen:  gnome not kubuntu?  you should have that in the Administration menu i'd think then
[09:28] <rob_p> ichi:  Did update-rc.d successfully create the sym links in /etc/rc2.d, /etc/rc3.d, /etc/rc4.d, and /etc/rc5.d?
[09:28] <fredforfaen> eyequeue gnome
[09:28] <fredforfaen> eyequeue i dont belive me
[09:28] <Skidoo> NoUse: ok. i'll go check for it again (must admit i didn't look too hard last time :)
[09:29] <raingrove> do you guys prefer Koffice or Openoffice? under KDe
[09:29] <jrattner1> I'm a college student with a checking account, im looking for software that will allow me to manage that account, not to actually let me withdrawl or deposit, but to allow me to balance it.. any suggestions
[09:29] <ichi> Yea the links were created ok
[09:29] <raetsel99> jrattner1 your could take a look at GNUCash but that might be abit of overkill
[09:29] <mwe> raingrove: Openoffice is much better IMHO
[09:29] <eyequeue> fredforfaen:  odd.  ironically, i just spent the past week or two with someone born in norway :)  but she's a native-english-cpeaker for decades, os it wasn't a factor for her
[09:30] <jrattner1> raetsel99, im looking for something a little simpler
[09:30] <Greg_Wah> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:30] <Greg_Wah>   eclipse-sdk: Depends: eclipse-jdt (= 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <Greg_Wah>                Depends: eclipse-pde (= 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <Greg_Wah> E: Broken packages
[09:30] <Answer> Sometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?
[09:30] <telonir> where can i download the "all" codecs package for mplayer? their site seems to be down...
[09:30] <raingrove> mwe:is there anyway i can make openoffice use my global kde font anti-aliasing?
[09:30] <khermans_> Answer, do you have both a wired/wireless device?
[09:30] <raetsel99> jrattner1 have  you thought of seting up a spreadsheet template?
[09:30] <fredforfaen> eyequeue hehe , well its not a problem for me , but i want to learn how to change the system language....systemwide!
[09:30] <rob_p> ichi:  And you tried the startup script (/etc/init.d/rox) from the command line and it works?
[09:30] <tristanmike> Greg_Wah, please don't paste in here, see /topic :)
[09:31] <eyequeue> btw, is the thunderbird upgrade "sticking" for anyone else in breezy?
[09:31] <Answer> khermans_: yes, two wired and one wireless device.  the route in question is for eth2 and I think it's wired
[09:31] <jrattner1> raetsel99, yeh, but im looking for something more fun :  )
[09:31] <khermans_> Answer, make sure you disable the other devices if you are not using them, and then set a static route for the device you want
[09:31] <ichi> Not from the shell but from the file manager
[09:31] <eyequeue> fredforfaen:  i think those "must enter a sudo password" options in Administration are basically all system-wide changes, not per-user changes
[09:32] <fredforfaen> eyequeue but why havent i got that menu item.....i just upgraded to breezy
[09:32] <Answer> khermans_: The other devices are in use, and there is a static route set.  But sometimes it stops working for no reason.  Then after I del and add it, it works again immediately.
[09:32] <khermans_> weird
[09:32] <ichi> clicking on the script in /etc/init.d/ and it runs
[09:32] <raetsel99> some suggestions here jrattner1 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11811.html
[09:32] <jrattner1> i cant wait for breezy
[09:33] <jrattner1> thanx raetsel99
[09:33] <El_Che> jrattner1: upgrade now
[09:33] <El_Che> it can be that different from tomorrow
[09:33] <El_Che> :)
[09:33] <basscr> what multimedia codecs do i need to be able to play mp3 files ??
[09:33] <mwe> raingrove: what do you mean? Just choose the font you want for your document
[09:33] <apokryphos> !mp3
[09:33] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:34] <ichi> rob_p. clicking on the script in /etc/init.d/ and it runs
[09:34] <Answer> khermans_: yeah it is weird.  it would make more sense if it somehow disappeared from the route table, but it's still in there (which is why I have to del then add).  i'm thinking maybe ifconfig changes the device and it doesn't reload the routes?
[09:34] <Buddha|> I have two computers that share a DSL connection via a D-Link router.  I recently installed Linux on my iBook, and now I can't FTP between the two computers.  Could someone help me with this?
[09:34] <raingrove> mwe: the user interface of Openoffice is using wrong type of anti-aliasing which is very ugly
[09:34] <tomekx> hallo  -- apache unter ubuntu -- wo schmeiss ich die cgi's hin?
[09:34] <rob_p> ichi:  Ok.  Sounds like the startup script works.  However, try, "sudo /etc/init.d/rox start" and see if it runs from the command line.  If it does, then you will probably need to review you system logs to see why it is having trouble on startup.
[09:34] <raetsel99> basscr that is an FAQ : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387
[09:34] <Answer> Buddha|: which computer has the ftp server running?
[09:34] <raetsel99> !de
[09:34] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[09:34] <basscr> what multimedia codecs do i need to be able to play mp3 files ??
[09:35] <mwe> raingrove: oh. I think you need to run gtk-theme-switch2
[09:35] <Answer> !tell basscr about restrictedformats
[09:35] <raetsel99> read what people have posted basscr
[09:35] <eyequeue> mozilla-thunderbird depends on libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel-4)
[09:35] <eyequeue>  mozilla-thunderbird depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9)
[09:35] <eyequeue>  mozilla-thunderbird depends on libxrender1 (>> 0.9.0-1)
[09:35] <eyequeue> hmm, that aws one line here, sorry
[09:35] <tomekx> hello -- apache under ubuntu -- where i can put my cgi's ??
[09:35] <ichi> rob_p. thanks for that is there a special syntax for a start up script ? or is a bash script good enough ?
[09:36] <raingrove> mwe/ but it's fine on other gtk apps like firefox and gimp
[09:36] <raetsel99> anyone able to help me with my sound card problem on PowerPC hoary on an emac?
[09:36] <eyequeue> still, anyone know how to force that to go through safely?  without an actual dpkg --ofrce of course
[09:36] <rob_p> ichi:  Did you write the startup script?  If so, did you follow conventions (such as start, stop arguments)?
[09:36] <Answer> Sometimes my default route stops working, and then I route del default and route add it and it starts working again immediately.  Anybody know why it would stop working but still be in the route table?  Do I need to refresh the route after changing ifconfig for the device?
[09:36] <tomekx> hello -- apache under ubuntu -- where i can put my cgi's ??
[09:36] <Buddha|> Answer - um, neither one
[09:36] <raetsel99> Answer, what changes do you make under ifconfig?
[09:37] <Bicchi> I am subscribed to the ubuntu mailing list and does anyone knows if they plan on sending an email right away after breezy is released. I would like to download it right away. Its my first time. :)
[09:37] <Buddha|> I wasn't using one before, though, either
[09:37] <Answer> raetsel99, I dunno i'm just guessing.  why would it stop working
[09:37] <rob_p> ichi:  Here's a how-to for creating startup scripts:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/13/28/
[09:37] <eyequeue> tomekx:  /usr/lib/cgi-bin?
[09:37] <raetsel99> when it stops routing can you still ping it?
[09:37] <ichi> rob_p. I used start) script ;; stop) ;; script is the name of the script
[09:37] <EPOX123> Hi everyone, does any one know how to get totem to work under x86_64?
[09:37] <mwe> raingrove: Well I'm pretty sure my OO.org is using my gtk2 font
[09:37] !lilo:*! Modified http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#usernames to point to http://partiallystapled.com/wiki/index.php/HyperionNOIDPREFIXPurpose for a more policy-oriented treatment of NOIDPREFIX, which will be used to implement noticeable changes in the way IRC nicknames are reserved on freenode. Recommended reading.
[09:37] <carl> ok I am going crazy, how do I get my SoundMaz  soundcard to work with ubuntu I have tried installing the drivers I can find, can anyone help!!!!
[09:37] !lilo:*! As always, #freenode-wallops exists as a place to discuss recent wallops or global notice messages. Thanks.
[09:37] <Answer> raetsel99, I can get to it from another computer in that network, but not directly
[09:38] <raetsel99> Answer, is this wired or wireless?
[09:38] <rob_p> ichi:  Check out the how-to and see if it answers your questions.  Post back here if you have further questions.
[09:38] <Answer> raetsel99, it is wired eth2, but there is wireless eth1, and wired eth0 as well...
[09:38] <ichi> rob_p. great help thanks, i will
[09:39] <raetsel99> Answer, gees are you running an ISP :o)
[09:39] <EPOX123> :( hello some one check my question please :)
[09:39] <mwe> raingrove: to change the interface font for firefox I had to fiddle with userChrome.css. I don't know about gimp
[09:39] <basscr> oh!, so i cant play mp3 files on ubuntu!!!
[09:39] <EPOX123> i cant play any thing in totem ubuntu
[09:39] <raetsel99> yes you can basscr you just need to install the relevant options....
[09:39] <EPOX123> :(
[09:39] <Orborde> basscr: Yes, you can.
[09:40] <crimsun> basscr: install totem-xine or install gstreamer0.8-mad or xmms
[09:40] <Answer> raetsel99, the route in question is   default  gateway for eth2.  when it stops working it is still in route, then when I del and add it, it works immediately.  this is happening repeatedly
[09:40] <Madpilot> !tell basscr about mp3
[09:40] <basvg> hmm, guess I'd better post on the ML
[09:40] <Orborde> !tell Orborde about mp3
[09:40] <raetsel99> basscr you need to make sure you have added additional repositories to apt sources.list ( or via synaptic )
[09:40] <EPOX123> how can i play asx wmd
[09:40] <EPOX123> wma
[09:41] <lonki> hi guys/girls, just a quick question, would ubuntu be a good distro for a 15 year old son?
[09:41] <raetsel99> Answer, hmm I've never come across that before
[09:41] <Skidoo> NoUse: back again! this is all i found in the GRUB menu:
[09:41] <Skidoo> Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[09:41] <Skidoo> Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 (recovery mode)
[09:41] <Skidoo> Ubuntu, kernel memtest86+
[09:41] <basscr> crimsun: apt-get totem-xine ?
[09:41] <dave___> hello, how to make karamba start with the KDE?
[09:41] <EPOX123> lonki yes but you just have to set it up lol
[09:41] <Skidoo> no other options
[09:41] <raetsel99> hi Lonki, what sort of hardware will your son be using it on? just a regular PC?
[09:41] <lonki> EPOX123, that wouldn't be a prob
[09:41] <Answer> raetsel99, me neither.  from the route man page it says that route is setup after ifconfig, so I thought maybe we are changing something with ifconfig and need to refresh the route?
[09:41] <lonki> raetsel99, thinkpad R30
[09:42] <david__> hola
[09:42] <Madpilot> lonki: that's a laptop?
[09:42] <david__> yes
[09:42] <jbroome> yes
[09:42] <Buddha|> Does Ubuntu have a firewall setup by default?  If so, what is it, and how can I turn it off?
[09:42] <raetsel99> hmm - laptops can be a little bit tricker under Linux, but Ubuntu is one of the best for laptop support
[09:42] <syli725> hi, anyone can help me with ifconfig. i want to change eth0 broadcast to 255.255.255.255.
[09:42] <lonki> Madpilot yes
[09:42] <crimsun> basscr: aptitude install totem-xine
[09:42] <Orborde> Buddha|: No.
[09:42] <Lyssie> I got a laptop issue right here... heh
[09:42] <chrisx1> +6
[09:42] <Madpilot> lonki: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[09:42] <lonki> well, it is currently running slackware so it shouldn't be a problem
[09:42] <raetsel99> Answer,  does it just happen the once on boot and then stay up ok?
[09:43] <lonki> Madpilot, thanks
[09:43] <raetsel99> Well Lonki Ubuntu is a great distribution and has this wonderful channel to help people :o)
[09:43] <Madpilot> lonki: here too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[09:43] <lonki> raetsel99 :-)
[09:43] <Skidoo> anyone know how to boot from a previous kernel if it's not in your Grub menu?
[09:43] <Answer> raetsel99, no it seems to be unrelated to booting.  the machine stays up and this happens multiple times.
[09:43] <Orborde> Okay, I'm having major issues with video playback. As in, trying to play any video in Totem -> GDM/X/Something in that vicinity crashes. I double-click the movie file, and *poof* I'm looking at a terminal, for the few seconds until X restarts and brings up Mr. Login Screen.
[09:44] <Madpilot> lonki: there's been a big push w/ Breezy to make Ubuntu into the most laptop-friendly distro going - and it seems to be working
[09:44] <lonki> hmm, sleep/suspend isn't a problem with the right kernel
[09:44] <raingrove> Does anyone know how to fix ugly anti-aliasing in interface fonts for openoffice?
[09:44] <raetsel99> lonki - if your son is into his MP3 etc. then Ubuntu does need a little extra config as MP3 is not there "out of the box" but the set up is easy
[09:44] <carl> is there anyway to have ubuntu autodetect my sound card it is a SoundMax on a Compaq
[09:44] <lonki> raetsel99, yes, I just read, no prob
[09:45] <Orborde> So what do I need to do to get enough info together to put in a good bug report?
[09:45] <raetsel99> lonki why not try the Live CD version then you can see how it goes without actually affecting the hard disk?
[09:45] <hajiki> is there no python2.4-dev ?
[09:45] <Lyssie> Anybody able to give me a little help?
[09:45] <raetsel99> what with Lyssie
[09:45] <Madpilot> later, all... this having to work thing sucks... ;)
[09:45] <Skidoo> problem: can't boot. symptoms: system hangs after kernel decompresses. unable to load previous kernel. any ideas gratefully appreciated
[09:45] <raetsel99> bbye Madpilot
[09:46] <lonki> raetsel99, well, I will just try it for him, will be running a mini-mac myself after this weekend, he will get this laptop, I don't want to give him slackware
[09:46] <EPOX123> Hi everyone, does any one know how to get totem to work under x86_64? :(
[09:46] <Skidoo> Lyssie: what's up
[09:46] <rob_p> Answer:  Do you have a gateway specified for more than one active interface?  If so, you need to remove it from all interfaces except the one closest to (connected to) the Internet.  You do need a default gateway, but only one.
[09:46] <Drakeson> I have a problem activating mediawiki. I apt-get installed it, and now I get some some stuff in /usr/share/mediawiki, /var/lib/mediawiki   .it needs a php page of its own to configure itself. what is this address?
[09:47] <EPOX123> I cant play play asx files mm:// even with codecs
[09:47] <Orborde> Skidoo: Randomly, I might suggest using a Live CD to get in, chrooting to your root directory, and recompiling the kernel, but this is a little out of my depth.
[09:47] <lonki> raetsel99, is it due to the patents that there is no default mp3 support?
[09:47] <rob_p> Answer:  Look in your /etc/network/interfaces file and see if more than one active interface has a gateway listed.
[09:47] <Orborde> lonki: Yep.
[09:47] <lonki> k
[09:48] <raetsel99> yep Ubuntu likes free as in freedom formats
[09:48] <lonki> is ogg supported?
[09:48] <eyequeue> Skidoo:  or what Orborde said, but adding the old kernel to /boot/grub/menu.lst and running update-grub
[09:48] <Skidoo> Orborde: i'd rather not have to recompile. if the old kernel image is still there i may be able to configure Grub to load it, but i'm not a grub expert
[09:48] <Orborde> lonki: Yes. Though I don't know if it's "out of the box". Mind you, MP3 support can be had pretty easily using apt...
[09:49] <lonki> ok, that must be easy yes
[09:49] <Orborde> Skidoo: What happened that caused this?
[09:49] <lonki> b.t.w. is there an active Dutch channel too?
[09:49] <eyequeue> Skidoo:  /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file you'll want, but you'd want to chroot to the normal / before running update-grub
[09:49] <raetsel99> why don't you want to give your son slackware, lonki. Just being nosey
[09:50] <Orborde> Skidoo: As in, what was the last thing you did? Put a bullet through your hard drive :) ?
[09:50] <lonki> raetsel99, since I only want to login and update it from elsewhere
[09:50] <lonki> it could be done with slackware but it is a bit more of a hassle
[09:50] <Skidoo> Orborde: i seem to recall running an ubuntu update :)
[09:50] <djp> can anyone tell me if there is a log file created when icons are generated in the .thumbnails folder?
[09:50] <Orborde> Skidoo: Ouch.
[09:50] <Skidoo> Orborde: quite
[09:50] <lonki> raetsel99, and I want to give hime a gnome desktop
[09:50] <Answer> rob_p, there is only one default gateway specified
[09:51] <raetsel99> well the synaptic / apt-get is a nice system
[09:51] <Orborde> Skidoo: Did you say that you couldn't get to your old kernel image? Is it accessible via grub?
[09:51] <lonki> yes, I know synaptic, and I know apt-rpm
[09:51] <rob_p> Answer:  Ok.  Well, I've seen that be the cause of similar problems so I thought I'd mention it to you.  Good luck with it.
[09:51] <DazeD||lap> can anyone help me partitioning?
[09:51] <Skidoo> Orborde: it's not in the grub menu
[09:51] <Orborde> Skidoo: Ah. Okay, yeah, use a Live CD on it.
[09:52] <Answer> rob_p, have you ever heard of a way to refresh the route table?
[09:52] <Skidoo> hmm. quick question. is recovery mode the same as single user mode?
[09:52] <Skidoo> Orborde: ok. then what?
[09:52] <Orborde> Skidoo: Mount in the system's partition, chroot to it, and run update-grub
[09:52] <lonki> is there a list of software which can be installed somewhere on the site b.t.w.?
[09:52] <Skidoo> Orborde: will that not just make it the same as it is now?
[09:52] <rob_p> Answer:  Well, you can use the route command to (re)establish routes.
[09:52] <r0d> what tool can I use to see my computers temps
[09:52] <raetsel99> lonki  - there are about 16000 packages available under debian apt get :o)
[09:53] <mwe> Skidoo: recovery mode is the same as single user mode, yes
[09:53] <Juerd> Why oh why does apt-get dist-upgrade ask many questions twice?
[09:53] <Orborde> Skidoo: As someone said, if the kernel image itself is still hiding there, update-grub should find it. So try that first.
[09:53] <hajiki> is there a python-dev package anywhere?
[09:53] <cribbon> Hey all, I recompiled my kernel and forgot to get filesystem in it. Can anyone help me ? ( priv )
[09:53] <Answer> rob_p, just running route does not fix the problem... but the default gateway is still in there.  it doesn't work until I del and add it again
[09:53] <lonki> raetsel99, maybe a rough list? :-)
[09:53] <Juerd> Is it really needed to have lilo install the kernel twice, for example?
[09:53] <tonifero> ayuda en espaol por favor
[09:53] <lonki> Answer route add, route del, a info/man file should give you some details
[09:53] <Skidoo> Orborde: ok! i'll give it a shot. thanks!
[09:53] <hajiki> !tell hajiki about python-dev
[09:53] <rob_p> Answer:  How long has it been doing this?
[09:54] <Nomad_> Has anyone ever run into problems using Ubuntu to serve Samba to a Mac enviroment?
[09:54] <Answer> rob_p: just today... maybe last night too
[09:54] <rob_p> Answer:  ...or has it always done it?
[09:54] <rob_p> Answer:  Ok.  Have you installed any new interfaces, software, etc. lately?
[09:54] <Answer> rob_p, just the last two days, and maybe one isolated time a long time ago
[09:54] <Answer> rob_p, no these machines are static and they aren't even allowed out on the networks so the hardware and software could not be changing
[09:55] <rob_p> Answer:  Very strange indeed!
[09:55] <HappyFool> hajiki: try python2.4-dev
[09:56] <Answer> rob_p, any idea what would make the route be ignored?  or what route del and route add do behind the scenes?
[09:56] <hajiki> HappyFool, I did
[09:56] <Orborde> What sort of dance should I go through to file a bug report? Any links you can point me to?
[09:56] <Fionn> could it be that a PentiumII is too OLD for ubuntu?
[09:56] <HappyFool> hajiki: no luck?
[09:56] <hajiki> HappyFool, none
[09:56] <HappyFool> hajiki: you've enabled network repositories ?
[09:56] <sockpuppe1> hello all
[09:56] <linad> hi
[09:57] <Orborde> Fionn: It doesn't seem likely. Why do you ask?
[09:57] <Fionn> all openGL apps on my new breezy system crash with "illegal instruction". Probably some openGL libs have been compiled for MMX extensions or so.
[09:57] <Answer> Fionn, it wouldn't be too old, but it might run really slowly...
[09:57] <sp00nhead> Hello everyone.
[09:57] <tried> im new on to linux and want to know how do i install programs such as tar.gz etc or package??
[09:57] <rob_p> Answer:  List the routing table and copy it to a file when things are working.  Then, when things stop working, list the routing table again and see if they match.
[09:57] <ZupZupper> Hello
[09:57] <hajiki> HappyFool, I though I had... Just did an apt-get update again and it found it. Thanks
[09:57] <Answer> rob_p, yes they match exactly
[09:57] <eyequeue> tried:  apt-get install foo
[09:57] <sp00nhead> ubuntu  has been running really nice on my sony vaio
[09:57] <sockpuppe1> I have a compaq fs740 monitor with a microphone built in and im wondering if that'll work with skype
[09:57] <sp00nhead> breezy is really nice
[09:57] <tried> wats foo
[09:57] <HappyFool> tried: answer is to first check if the application is available in synaptic (system -> admin -> synaptic)
[09:57] <Answer> rob_p, I also looked thru the history and nobody was running any funny commands
[09:57] <sockpuppe1> anyone know?
[09:58] <Orborde> Fionn: You might be better off with something lighter-weight than Ubuntu.
[09:58] <Juerd> Why does apt-get dist-upgrade ask the same questions twice?
[09:58] <eyequeue> tried:  a metasyntactic variable
[09:58] <eyequeue> !foo
[09:58] <ubotu> eyequeue: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:58] <rob_p> Answer:  brb
[09:58] <tried> oh k
[09:58] <sockpuppe1> crack:
[09:58] <sockpuppe1> sh: crack: command not found
[09:58] <raetsel99> time for a snack. bbl
[09:58] <cribbon> Hey all, I recompiled my kernel and forgot to get filesystem in it. I'm on the live cd now. Can anyone help me ? ( priv )
[09:58] <Answer> sockpuppe1, you're better off searching the wiki for specific hardware questions like that, unless by chance someone here has it.
[09:58] <Orborde> Juerd: File a bug report.
[09:58] <kbrooks> cribbon: no privmsgs
[09:58] <cribbon> ok, without priv then =)
[09:59] <sockpuppe1> answer the reason i put that there was jus in case
[09:59] <Juerd> Orborde: So it is a bug? Thank you.
[09:59] <Orborde> cribbon: Mount in your root partition.
[09:59] <cribbon> aye, /xxx/xxx ?
[09:59] <Orborde> Juerd: I don't know, but it seems pretty minor, and it's nothing I'd have any clue how to fix.
[09:59] <lonki> suppose you could mount the hda rw cribbon, and then install the old kernel in grub/lilo
[09:59] <Answer> sockpuppe1, you could also post that to the wiki as a request and the anyone else who searches might comment
[09:59] <Orborde> cribbon: Wherever.
[09:59] <sockpuppe1> but answer, if the microphone picks up the sound iin theory it should work with skyp yes?
[09:59] <cribbon> yeah, but i mean, what adress does my usual hdd have ?
[10:00] <Answer> sockpuppe1, if the microphone works, and it is compatible hardware, and it is configured correctly with the os, and skype is configured correctly to use it, then in theory it will work yes
[10:00] <Orborde> cribbon: Type fdisk -l and it will give you a list of partitions on the system.
[10:00] <lonki> cribbon, does the live cd let you run fdisk?
[10:00] <sockpuppe1> cool
[10:00] <HappyFool> sudo fdisk -l
[10:00] <Answer> rob_p, brb...
[10:01] <Fionn> Orborde: apart from that openGL problem, ubuntu runs perfect on that PII box.
[10:01] <Orborde> cribbon: That should give you the device for mount.
[10:01] <cribbon> id did, ty =)
[10:01] <Orborde> Fionn: Maybe you could try recompiling one of the problem programs from source...?
[10:01] <rodietze> hey I have a question: I have an Agere/Lucent 56k modem, what or how can I do for it to work???
[10:02] <nrbq> can anyone help with a broken package issue?
[10:02] <lonki> hmm, the iso is downloaded, is there a way to do a netinstall?
[10:02] <nrbq> I'm really stuck
[10:02] <sockpuppe1> another question, it it ok to upgrade to breezy
[10:02] <Orborde> cribbon: Okay, now type: sudo chroot /your/mounted/file/system/
[10:02] <kevogod> Anyone read this? http://p2pnet.net/story/6564
[10:02] <kbrooks> sockpuppe1: yes its ok, it "just Works(tm)" for me
[10:02] <Orborde> sockpuppe1: Yes, it no longer has a tendency to kill everything.
[10:03] <nrbq> Could my broken package problem have anyting to do with ndiswrapper?
[10:03] <rob_p> Answer:  Sry abt that... I had a phone call!  Anyway, aside from closely examining your system logs for clues, I don't have any further suggestions for you.
[10:03] <sockpuppe1> kevogod thats ridiculous
[10:03] <Drakeson> !tell me about mediawiki
[10:03] <kevogod> sockpuppe1, Yes, it is
[10:03] <Drakeson> !tell me about wiki
[10:03] <kevogod> sockpuppe1, It's sickening, really
[10:03] <sockpuppe1> microsoft's at it again
[10:04] <kvidell> !seen seveas
[10:04] <ubotu> seveas <n=seveas@re-uva-14.wireless.uva.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 5h 41m 8s ago, saying: 'try /whois Seveas'.
[10:04] <nrbq> I've just setup ndiswrapper to use a NETgear WG511v2 wireless card
[10:04] <nrbq> Works great (obviously)
[10:04] <sockpuppe1> did you hear about the *iaa suing a little girl and her mom
[10:04] <sockpuppe1> ?
[10:04] <sockpuppe1> they couldnt get hte mom
[10:04] <raingrove> Does anyone know how to fix ugly anti-aliasing in interface fonts for openoffice?
[10:04] <nrbq> But just as before, I can't install amule or a lot of other packages because it says I have "broken packages"
[10:04] <sockpuppe1> so they sued the little girl
[10:04] <nrbq> How is that possible?
[10:05] <nrbq> This is a clean install
[10:05] <kevogod> sockpuppe1, Yea, well that's not really related to Ubuntu
[10:05] <gelberg> hi all, am installing kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu. in addition to usual gnome packages, what meta-packages do i need to remove to ensure gnome isn't reinstalled when we upgrade to breezy?
[10:05] <kevogod> sockpuppe1, Although it is a good precedent nonetheless
[10:05] <darso> Anyone knows how to install Gimp-Print safely?
[10:05] <apokryphos> gelberg: if you don't have gnome/ubuntud-esktop, you won't get any gnome packs on an upgrade to breezy
[10:05] <eyequeue> gelberg:  ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <sockpuppe1> kevogod...lol..but a good question is...
[10:05] <pinucset> maybe it could be interesting if you start downloading breezy or upgrading. Or tomorrow the servers will be down :)
[10:05] <lonki> hmm, let's browse the loop mounted ubuntu cd :-)
[10:06] <sockpuppe1> i know that the forum says that breezy's not out yet
[10:06] <gelberg> thanks
[10:06] <sockpuppe1> but its ok to upgrade nonetheless
[10:06] <sockpuppe1> ?
[10:06] <darso> Gimp-Print, anyone?
[10:06] <Orborde> nrbq: You might try sudo apt-get check , but I'm no expert.
[10:06] <eyequeue> sockpuppe1:  sure, most of us do many times per day
[10:07] <esac> am i able to reinstall grub from the breezy install cd ?
[10:07] <El_Che> sockpuppe1: i'm runny breezy from the day before yesterday. Works great
[10:07] <sockpuppe1> just making sure
[10:07] <nrbq> Orborde, thanks, I'll try that now
[10:07] <sockpuppe1> by the way el_che great s/n
[10:07] <gelberg> when just installed hoary, the package manager flashed up in the top right, that there are security updates available for download. will there be similar functionality when using kde?
[10:08] <lonki> hmm, nice, some 1400+ packages
[10:08] <Thirsteh> xorg killed my monitor :(
[10:08] <nrbq> Orborde, it's still the same problem
[10:08] <Orborde> nrbq: What happened when you did sudo apt-get check ?
[10:09] <Orborde> nrbq: Hmm...that may not be the right thing.
[10:09] <nrbq> Orborde, it said "Reading package lists... Done
[10:09] <nrbq> "
[10:09] <sockpuppe1> trying the breezy upgrade now
[10:09] <nrbq> Then building dependency tree.....done
[10:10] <nrbq> This is like the 3rd install I've done on this laptop and the same problem comes up
[10:10] <nrbq> I can only think it has to do with setting up ndiswrapper
[10:10] <Orborde> nrbq: Try reinstalling the packages it's complaining about with: sudo apt-get install --reinstall blahblahblah
[10:10] <Orborde> nrbq: That would seem to be the case.
[10:10] <nrbq> Orborde, I'll try that now
[10:11] <Fionn> Orborde: the problem is in package libgl1-mesa-dri
[10:11] <StR> Hi all!
[10:11] <Orborde> Fionn: How so? What did you do?
[10:11] <Fionn> Orborde: the mga dri lib seems to issue MMX instructions
[10:11] <StR> is there a way to have with php4 and php5  ?
[10:11] <Fionn> Orborde: i backtraced the crashes with gdb
[10:12] <Orborde> Fionn: Have I mentioned that I'm no expert at this?
[10:12] <nrbq> Orborde, that didn't work either
[10:12] <sockpuppe1> you know what? I never give you guys enough credit
[10:12] <nrbq> It said, "Package libglib1.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[10:12] <sockpuppe1> this has got to be the best irc support channel ever
[10:13] <Orborde> nrbq: Did you try plain old libglib?
[10:13] <nrbq> On my way
[10:13] <esac> anybody know if i can boot off a non-live cd such as ubuntus install cd, and boot into my system. and if so what do i pass to the install command line ?
[10:13] <nrbq> nope, nothing for libglib
[10:14] <Dalkus> if i have a vfat partition, what do I need to add to fstab to make it writable by any user? it is set to "defaults" atm
[10:14] <djp> can anyone tell me if there is a log file created when icons are generated in the .thumbnails folder?
[10:14] <Orborde> nrbq: That's odd. I'm able to get libglib1.2 with no problem.
[10:14] <jrattner1> are there any files worth backing up before doing a fresh install
[10:14] <nrbq> doing an apt-cache search libglib give a v2.0.0
[10:14] <Orborde> jrattner1: Your Firefox profile, maybe.
[10:15] <lonki> Dalkus, rw,dev=/.....,fs=.....
[10:15] <nrbq> One sec - that little red icon that announces updates has just come up
[10:15] <nrbq> should I go for that and see if that fixes it?
[10:15] <lonki> Dalkus, something like: rw,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat
[10:15] <jrattner1> Orborde, can i later load the profile?
[10:15] <Orborde> nrbq: Give it a whirl.
[10:15] <bam_> breezy release out yet?
[10:16] <nrbq> yeah, it's not like I have a lot to lose
[10:16] <Orborde> jrattner1: Yeah; you just need to grab the whole .mozilla directory out of your /home and pop it into your new home.
[10:16] <occy> jeet yet, yawnto aiit
[10:16] <janemann> Dalkus: and ... /dev/cdrom  /cd  iso9660  ro,user,noauto,unhide ... e.g. for normal users...
[10:16] <ariz0rs> hello
[10:16] <jrattner1> Orborde, sounds good
[10:16] <nrbq> the thing is, I installed ubuntu on an HP vt6200 earlier in the week and it had no problems
[10:16] <nrbq> whatsoever
[10:16] <coolkev> I get a very very critical problem
[10:16] <coolkev> and need help imidiately
[10:17] <nrbq> now I'm putting it on my own laptop and it's just being a pain
[10:17] <ariz0rs> i have to install the rest of windoes today
[10:17] <Orborde> nrbq: Yeah, it can be like that.
[10:17] <ariz0rs> so i can actually do stuff
[10:17] <ariz0rs> lol
[10:17] <mpmc> Gaim loads then just exits after I sign in!
[10:17] <coolkev> my ubuntu won't even load
[10:17] <Orborde> nrbq: What model, if I might ask?
[10:17] <bam_> coolkev, reinstall
[10:17] <ariz0rs> i just loaded linux onto my vaio
[10:17] <eracerbit> anybody use ati card on 686-smp machine
[10:17] <nrbq> it's a Compaq nx9005
[10:17] <coolkev> it says Fatal Error no font path found
[10:17] <Orborde> coolkev: What was the last thing you did?
[10:17] <coolkev> i can't re-install
[10:17] <ariz0rs> have u updated
[10:18] <coolkev> i updated to breezy
[10:18] <coolkev> today
[10:18] <occy> coolkev, heh
[10:18] <chank> hey poeple
[10:18] <Orborde> coolkev: ouch
[10:18] <occy> coolkev, how did you upgrade?
[10:18] <bam_> its in full release
[10:18] <bam_> not testing
[10:18] <coolkev> synatic
[10:18] <coolkev> change the repos
[10:18] <Dekkard> ive heard this here before..but i ve installed hoary..and now my system wont boot form cd.. any ideas?
[10:18] <Prower> bam_: The actual release is on the repositories now?
[10:18] <coolkev> yes
[10:18] <occy> coolkev, guess you didn't check this page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:18] <bam_> dunno
[10:18] <Orborde> nrbq: libglib1.2 seems to be in breezy/main ....
[10:18] <bam_> is it
[10:18] <occy> coolkev, :(
[10:19] <eracerbit> uhh read the title of this channel ppl
[10:19] <nrbq> Orborde, I'm very new - not sure what that means
[10:19] <coolkev> but how do select a font path
[10:19] <coolkev> i can get into console
[10:19] <occy> coolkev, always check the topic here on the channel before doing an upgrade
[10:19] <bam_> nope not released yet
[10:19] <Orborde> nrbq: Well, let me track down the thing...
[10:19] <bam_> bummer
[10:19] <bam_> oh well whats the advatage over hoary?
[10:19] <nrbq> Orborde, much appreciated
[10:20] <raetsel99_> hi can anyone help me with a sound card issue under hoary PowerPC on my eMac please?
[10:20] <coolkev> i can get into the console
[10:20] <Sikavica> mpmc: my gaim crashes after conecting to google talk, if you have simular problem use gajim instead
[10:20] <coolkev> anyway i can do soemthing there
[10:20] <coolkev> to fix the problem
[10:20] <bam_> work time...bummer
[10:20] <eracerbit> ati's proprietary driver bit me
[10:21] <nrbq> Orborde, shall I go ahead with the 96 updates?
[10:21] <El_Che> yep
[10:21] <rob_p> coolkev:  Font paths are listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Make sure that they point to the correct location.  On Hoary, they are in /usr/lib/X11/fonts.
[10:21] <El_Che> :)
[10:21] <mpmc> is Breezy out yet??
[10:21] <Spudchat> should the pipe ( | ) follow exactly after the command or be seperated by a space?
[10:21] <NoUse> mpmc see /topic
[10:21] <budluva> poor me just finished 5.10rc
[10:21] <bur[n] er> lol @ topic ;)
[10:21] <evian> mmpc, see topic
[10:21] <coolkev> yes
[10:21] <budluva> i bed final comes out soon :P
[10:21] <coolkev> rob_p u are correct
[10:21] <eckhart> hi, after dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy xorg is somehow broken for me
[10:21] <kemik> Spudchat:  space
[10:22] <Spudchat> thanks
[10:22] <coolkev> the error said that's the file
[10:22] <Orborde> nrbq: Okay, go to Synaptic.\
[10:22] <mpmc> yeah, yeah very funny :/
[10:22] <nrbq> one sec
[10:22] <coolkev> now in console how do i edit that file and set tot eh correct font location
[10:22] <eckhart> dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority xserver-xorg creates an xorg.conf file that just shows a black screen
[10:22] <coolkev> like what's the font location in hoary and breezy i'll try both
[10:22] <rob_p> coolkev:  sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <rippy>  I have some problems with CDWriter an CDRom detection devices! The curious thing is the fact that I can read any kind of CD with both CDROM and CDWRITER, it starts atomatically the AutoRun thing! If I try to use cdrecord to burn a CD, I can't, because it can't find my CDWriter and CDROM, I used the command "cdrecord -scanbus" and here it is the message:
[10:23] <rippy> root@rippy:~ # cdrecord -scanbus
[10:23] <rippy> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a29 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jrg Schilling
[10:23] <rippy> NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an unofficial (modified) release of cdrecord
[10:23] <rippy> and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
[10:23] <rippy> Please send bug reports and support requests to <cdrtools@packages.debian.org>.
[10:23] <eracerbit> coolkev: use pico, not vi.. trust me will be easier
[10:23] <rippy> The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.
[10:23] <rippy> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[10:23] <rippy> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
[10:23] <coolkev> ok
[10:23] <deFrysk> someone is flooding :s
[10:23] <rippy> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
[10:23] <rippy> cdrecord:
[10:23] <rippy> cdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc
[10:23] <rippy> cdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup .
[10:23] <rippy> I also, installed "xcdroast" and the following message message was shown on the screen: "No CDWriter or CDRom device detected.For ATAPI/IDE devices under Linux you have to enable SCSI-Emulation in the kernel in order to activate them!"
[10:23] <rippy> I run a UbuntuOS with a kernel version 2.6!
[10:23] <mpmc> STOP
[10:23] <coolkev> and the font path what should they be on haory and breezy?
[10:23] <raetsel99_> !tell rippy about pastebin
[10:23] <rippy> Any advice will be wellcomed!
[10:23] <rippy> any 1>
[10:23] <NoUse> rippy don't paste in here
[10:23] <rippy> ?
[10:23] <syli725> _iGadget_, hi, you sitll there?
[10:24] <cribbon> sudo make-kpkg ( kernel thingie ) []  sudo: unable to  lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:24] <Orborde> rippy: You dropped about 10 lines of text in here. It's pretty annoying when people do that.
[10:24] <cribbon> i'm on chroot. is that the problem?
[10:24] <rippy> O'm sorry about that, but does any1 have any suggestin?
[10:24] <raetsel99_> could be cribbon if ubuntu is not in /etc/hosts from your chroot position
[10:25] <Orborde> nrbq: Go to Settings->Repositories
[10:25] <evian> is there a way to make my scroll wheel scroll a larger amount for each notch it moves?
[10:25] <cribbon> ok, i'll look that up
[10:25] <vschneck> hi
[10:26] <evian> hi
[10:26] <coolkev> and the font path what should they be on haory and breezy?
[10:26] <vschneck> some one starcraft player here?
[10:26] <lonki> just another quick question, is the ubuntu cd bootable? or do I need a floppy?
[10:26] <raetsel99_> you may need to create a an etc dir and create a hosts file, relative to where your chroot is
[10:26] <budluva> lonki, its bootable
[10:26] <deFrysk> lonki, bootable
[10:26] <Orborde> lonki: Yes, it's bootable.
[10:26] <lonki> k, thanks
[10:26] <vschneck> some one starcraft player here?
[10:26] <coolkev> please can someone tell me so i can try to fix this problem
[10:26] <NoUse> lonki whats a floppy? :-)
[10:27] <coolkev> rob_p?
[10:27] <lonki> NoUse, that is what I was wondering, I have no floppy drive :-)
[10:27] <sp00nhead> do they still make floppies?? :)
[10:27] <syli725> _iGadget_, i just found out what my card actually is.  if you are not online anymore, i will leave now.
[10:27] <rob_p> coolkev:  As I said, in Hoary, the fonts are in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/.  Not sure about Breezy... probably the same.  By the way, in case you aren't too familliar with vi, once you open the file in vi, you can begin editing the file by hitting the, "a" key for append.  Once you finish making the changes, hit the escape key and then save the file by doing capital ZZ.
[10:27] <jrattner1> Will .iso's be available tommorrow? or is there a bit torrent or where is this info?
[10:27] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a program or a command to burn ISOs to CD/DVD?
[10:27] <Orborde> rob_p: Why not pico?
[10:28] <coolkev> hoe do i save file using pico
[10:28] <raetsel99_> Pickle_Weasel try gnomebacker
[10:28] <Pickle_Weasel> ty ^.^
[10:28] <raetsel99_> !info gnomebaker
[10:28] <rob_p> Orborde:  Old (bad) habits :-)
[10:28] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB
[10:28] <rob_p> Orborde:  Vi is all I use...
[10:28] <Orborde> jrattner1: ISOs are available now. Go to ubuntulinux.org and click download.
[10:28] <Dekkard> any ideas why ubuntu wont let my shytstem load(boot) FROM CD ANYMORE?
[10:28] <coolkev> orborde how do i save file using pico
[10:28] <Orborde> jrattner1: The torrent files are down at the bottom of the download page.
[10:28] <tristanmike> Pickle_Weasel, also, people seem to like k3b
[10:28] <rob_p> Orborde:  Since I don't know pico, I can't give advice using it :-)
[10:28] <Orborde> coolkev: Control+X
[10:28] <jrattner1> Orborde, are the torrents runnign quick?
[10:28] <coolkev> ok
[10:29] <coolkev> thanks
[10:29] <coolkev> i'll try it quick now
[10:29] <nrbq_> Orborde, sorry - I lost my connection - seems wireless is a bit flaky, too
[10:29] <coolkev> and back back with results
[10:29] <raetsel99_> Pickle_Weasel you need to make sure you have the universe repository set up in apt/synaptic to get gnomebaker
[10:29] <jrattner1> Orborde, and this is the official release?
[10:29] <nrbq_> I'm back in Synaptic
[10:29] <GNAM> NOT OUT YET!
[10:29] <syli725> _iGadget_, sorry to trouble you. :) bye.
[10:29] <Orborde> jrattner1: Well, I managed to get both the install and live ISOs in 43 minutes....
[10:29] <Pickle_Weasel> i'm installing both =)
[10:29] <nrbq_> Orborde, shall I go to advanced settings?
[10:29] <Orborde> jrattner1: It is NOT the official release.
[10:30] <rippy> Can any1 help with detecting CDRW? I tryed cdrecor -scanbus but reports error
[10:30] <rippy> ?
[10:30] <jrattner1> thats what i thought, i guess ill just wait for tomorrow
[10:30] <Orborde> jrattner1: It is a pre-release. However, with the magic of synaptic, you can easily upgrade to the release when it appears, assuming it changes between now and then.
[10:30] <raetsel99_> I'm guessing the upgrade from the breezy release candidate to the final release will be straighforward?
[10:30] <raetsel99_> you answered my question Orborde
[10:31] <Orborde> nrbq: You want settings->repositories
[10:31] <juliux> hi is here anybody who can test something with cups?
[10:31] <mpmc> is it worthy downloading the preview release?
[10:31] <Orborde> nrbq: You're in Synaptic, right?
[10:31] <lonki> is the kernel disregarded when you upgrade with synaptic by default?
[10:31] <nrbq> Orborde, I'm there
[10:31] <nrbq> Looking at the repo list
[10:31] <juliux> it very important
[10:31] <nrbq> Quite a few - shall I tick them all?
[10:31] <raetsel99> lonki- what do you mean "dis-regarded"
[10:32] <Orborde> nrbq: Okay, is the 'Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" ' repo enabled?
[10:32] <Orborde> nrbq: Yeah, ticking them all might do it.
[10:32] <coolkev> using pico i saw the xorg file and it's empty
[10:32] <GregAsche> anyone here use proxycheck?
[10:32] <lonki> raetsel99, well, some distro's let you upgrade the system without updating the kernel
[10:32] <Orborde> coolkev: That would be a problem....
[10:32] <nrbq> Orborde, there isn't an option for that
[10:32] <nrbq> ????
[10:32] <coolkev> what do i do now
[10:32] <Orborde> nrbq: Okay, hit the Settings button and turn on "show disabled repositories"
[10:33] <Orborde> nrbq: You are on Breezy, right?
[10:33] <raetsel99> oh I see what you mean lonki - Well you always have the choice of picking what packages you upgrade with synaptic but there may be dependcies ( which it will pick up )
[10:33] <nrbq> Orborde, sorry, no - it's hoary
[10:33] <nrbq> Sorry, I didn't make that clear
[10:33] <Orborde> nrbq: Okay...hmm....
[10:33] <nrbq> Shall I run the updates and just pray?
[10:33] <nrbq> :)
[10:33] <Orborde> nrbq: This will entail me figuring out where that package is...
[10:33] <lonki> raetsel99, sounds familiar :-)
[10:33] <Orborde> nrbq: Updates are generally a Good Thing.
[10:34] <coolkev> can anyone help me, i have an empty xorg.conf file for my brezy
[10:34] <nrbq> Orborde, then I'm your man! Updating now
[10:34] <rob_p> coolkev:  Do a, ls /etc/X11 and see if there's a backup of your old one.  Maybe there's an xorg.conf.sample or something similar...
[10:34] <Orborde> nrbq: Though they might not fix your problem, they are good in other ways.
[10:34] <kvidell> hm... so, good times. A friend of mine misread the label on a bottle of Ipecac and drank a bunch of it, expecting it was just an expectorant.
[10:34] <Nomad_> gsdfgsdfg
[10:34] <kvidell> er.. *flips over to offtopic*
[10:34] <coolkev> ok rob_p i'll try that
[10:34] <abeliangrapes> How do I set up multiple monitors in ubuntu?
[10:34] <nrbq> Orborde, I just don't understand it - one laptop and it works like a dream
[10:34] <Xenguy> Hi - is it safe to follow the instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes, to upgrade to Breezy right now?
[10:34] <kvidell> xinerama!
[10:35] <xiaogil_> what is the command to delete a user ?
[10:35] <Answer> userdel
[10:35] <K-Rich> looks like hoary->breezy with be a bit smother than warty->hoary, eh?
[10:35] <nrbq> This laptop and it just complains about broken packages - right from the first run of apt-get
[10:35] <buulian> can anyone direct me to a way to install java on breezy?
[10:35] <cribbon> raetsel99, /etc/hosts has the name i named it ( cribona), can i change this to ubuntu withou any orblems?
[10:35] <abeliangrapes> How do I set up multiple monitors on hoary?
[10:35] <raetsel99> cribbons try adding it as an alias i.e. on the same line as the cribona
[10:35] <bimberi> uboto tell buulian about java
[10:35] <Orborde> nrbq: Yeah, that's Ubuntu. We're not perfect yet :)
[10:36] <cribbon> ok, raetsel99
[10:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell buulian about java
[10:36] <bimberi> sry about that :)
[10:36] <sector10> whats the point of the realplayer installer in synaptic?
[10:36] <abeliangrapes> How do I set up multiple monitors on hoary?
[10:36] <Answer> abeliangrapes, pray.
[10:36] <Orborde> nrbq: Okay, I think in your case, you want 'Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" (Binary)
[10:37] <K-Rich> abeliangrapes: are you using the nvidia drivers?
[10:37] <raetsel99> sector10 I didn't know there was one, is that in Breezy RC ?
[10:37] <Xenguy> Can someone in the know tell me if it is safe to upgrade to Breezy (from Hoary) with apt-get ?
[10:37] <abeliangrapes> I'm using an ATI card.
[10:37] <jrattner1> you guys check out the fridge yet
[10:37] <raetsel99> Xenguy, it's supposed to be, but there can always be issues....caveat emptor ( sort of )
[10:37] <Kelraith> Xenguy: It has worked for me.
[10:37] <raingrove> Xenguy, sure no probem
[10:37] <sector10> raetsel99: dont use it its a waste of time
[10:37] <grover> Xenguy: I did yesterday, worked fine afaict
[10:37] <buulian> is ubotu a bot?
[10:38] <NoUse> !ubotu
[10:38] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:38] <sector10> raetsel99:  its in breezy version rp8,
[10:38] <raetsel99> sector10, I just use the .bin file from the site ( or from Helix )
[10:38] <abeliangrapes> K-Rich: I'm using an ATI card -- would nvidia help at all?
[10:38] <raingrove> ubotu hello
[10:38] <ubotu> hi
[10:38] <raingrove> ubotu rpm
[10:38] <ubotu> Wish i knew, raingrove
[10:38] <raingrove> ubotu rpm man
[10:38] <ubotu> raingrove: Syntax error in line 1
[10:38] <raetsel99> which I know is an evil thing to do to my package managment
[10:38] <raingrove> ubotu print "hello"
[10:38] <ubotu> Not a clue, raingrove
[10:38] <raingrove> ubotu printf("hello");
[10:38] <K-Rich> abeliangrapes: dual head or?
[10:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, raingrove
[10:38] <sector10> raetsel99: thats better or real.com, helix wont allow bbc to work i think
[10:38] <raingrove> ubotu (display "hello")
[10:38] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, raingrove
[10:39] <NoUse> raingrove he just stores links and such
[10:39] <Orborde> raingrove: Mind doing that by PM?
[10:39] <raingrove> i am sorry haha
[10:39] <lonki> ow boy, this wait's for a nother bot answering with names and you will have an endless loop
[10:39] <abeliangrapes> K-Rich sorry I'm not familiar with the term. It's like my first week on linux, just wanted to set this up like I did when i had windows running.
[10:39] <raetsel99> sector10 - hmm I've just put the RealPlayer for PowerPc on my emac from helix and it is playing up ( but then my sound card is screwy too )
[10:39] <sector10> raetsel99: the installer in synaptic makes you download a useless file really
[10:39] <icewt> hm.. is breezy delayed or something?
[10:39] <K-Rich> abeliangrapes: 2 video cards or one where you plug in two monitors (dual head)
[10:40] <abeliangrapes> K-RIch: dual head
[10:40] <NoUse> icewt no its not scheduled to be released until the 13th
[10:40] <sector10> raetsel99: helix wont do the bbc integrated thing as far as i know
[10:40] <Lord_Maynoth> do you guys think ubuntu will automount windows fat and ntfs partitions (automatically) by the time dapper drake comes out?
[10:40] <raetsel99> Hi N6REJ, did you get your wireless card working the other day?
[10:40] <Orborde> Lord_Maynoth: You're sure it doesn't already do FAT?
[10:41] <N6REJ> would someone who is running hoary please tell me the content of their /etc/debian_version file says
[10:41] <Lord_Maynoth> not automatically it doesn't
[10:41] <Lord_Maynoth> you have to set it up
[10:41] <icewt> NoUse, well, when is it 13th in there where it's made?-)
[10:41] <N6REJ> raetsel99: yes & no, got it working, son moved the system, and now it doesn't LOL
[10:41] <nrbq> Orborde, I'm going to see what happens with the updates
[10:41] <nrbq> Thanks again for all your help
[10:41] <nrbq> :)
[10:41] <K-Rich> abeliangrapes: this is my xorg.conf, i have dualhead nvidia... should be the same
[10:41] <nrbq> Peace and out
[10:41] <sector10> Lord_Maynoth: I think the disk manager in system: admin is dangerous right now
[10:41] <K-Rich> abeliangrapes: http://krich.dyndns.org/~krich/xorg.conf
[10:41] <Orborde> nrbq: You're welcome. Good luck. I diclaim all responsibility for damage
[10:41] <raetsel99> mine say 3.1. N6
[10:41] <abeliangrapes> K-Rich: Thanks!
[10:42] <sector10> Lord_Maynoth: If you click click th edefault it will mount windows in /user
[10:42] <N6REJ> raetsel99: just 3.1?
[10:42] <raetsel99> yep N6REJ
[10:42] <Lord_Maynoth> i know you can set it up to automount but shouldn't it be automatic?
[10:42] <BockBilbo> what has happened to the vlc package???
[10:42] <N6REJ> raetsel99: k, brb
[10:42] <Lord_Maynoth> isn't that the ubuntu philosophy "it should just work"
[10:42] <BockBilbo> it seens that its wrong
[10:42] <cribbon> raetsel99, this is wierd,  now when i write the sudo make-kpkg command it answers : sudo: make-kpkg: command not found
[10:42] <Orborde> Lord_Maynoth: Yeah, we're not perfect yet. Go learn mount
[10:42] <BockBilbo> it seens to be using gtk1 instead of gtk2
[10:43] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[10:43] <sampo_v2> is hdspconf (graphical alsa utility for high-end soundcards) available in any alsa package for ubuntu?
[10:43] <sector10> Lord_Maynoth: i agree, and there is an auto mount in :disks under system:admin
[10:43] <sampo_v2> or is there any way to search ubunut package contents like you can search for debian packages in packages.debian.org ?
[10:43] <sector10> Lord_Maynoth: but igf your not careful you will lose ability to sudo
[10:43] <apokryphos> sampo_v2: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <sampo_v2> :)
[10:43] <Lord_Maynoth> I think in 3 years time ubuntu is going to be awesome
[10:43] <raetsel99> hmm cribbon I don't really know what it is you are trying to do, but if you are chrooted you might need to put the full path to make-kpkg
[10:43] <Saba_Z> gnome-art gives me this error on breezy  /usr/bin/gnome-art:22:in `require': No such file to load ...
[10:44] <thechitowncubs> Lord_Maynoth, are you a certified psychic?
[10:44] <Lord_Maynoth> yes
[10:44] <tristanmike> lol
[10:44] <djp> can anyone tell me if there is a log file created when icons are generated in the .thumbnails folder?
[10:44] <Saba_Z> any idea?
[10:44] <cribbon> raetsel99, how would the full patch look?
[10:44] <cribbon> path*
[10:44] <NoUse> djp I doubt it
[10:44] <thechitowncubs> wow this channel is popular today
[10:44] <raetsel99> the full path
[10:44] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: it's been so as of late
[10:44] <sector10> Lord_Maynoth: I think ubuntu is awsome now. its simple. just dont use windows,
[10:44] <K-Rich> thechitowncubs: this channel is ALWAYS popular lol
[10:44] <cribbon>  ( /usr/src/linux ) ?
[10:44] <thechitowncubs> last night it was about 550
[10:45] <thechitowncubs> but jeez luiz
[10:45] <thechitowncubs> high school must have let out
[10:45] <bimberi> first time i've seen it over 600
[10:45] <sector10> i dont think its really made for dual boot
[10:45] <raetsel99> standing room only
[10:45] <sector10> jsut wish bzflag wa fixed
[10:45] <K-Rich> lol thechitowncubs
[10:45] <djp> MoUse, thanks. so i gather the identity of each thumbnail is generated in some type of order, which is reused if the directory (.thumbnails) is ever deleted?
[10:45] <raetsel99> and not one person to help with my PowerPC emac sound problem :'o(
[10:45] <Lord_Maynoth> well ubuntu is great for the price, but there are a lot of quircks that need to be ironed out...  and autopackge needs to evolve more to make software installtion easier
[10:46] <thechitowncubs> Alright I have a question for you guys... I have a 140gb ubuntu partition and a 20 gb wwin partition, i need to increase the windows partition by about 15 gigabytes and take away 15 from ubuntu, is this possible?
[10:46] <NoUse> djp I'm not sure how the thumbnail stuff works
[10:46] <raingrove> hey is it possible to make apt-get do the building & compilation instead of just installing binaries?
[10:46] <Dekkard> Lord_Maynoth something easier than apt?
[10:47] <thechitowncubs> Lord_Maynoth, don't spark those types of debates, it has been over discussed and it is getting out of hand
[10:47] <Lord_Maynoth> something that allows you to install current versions
[10:47] <K-Rich> raingrove: apt-get -b source <package>
[10:47] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, In order to resize (increase) Windows partitions, you need Partition Magic.
[10:47] <thechitowncubs> We all know all the kiddies want autopackage in because it makes it just like windows, but it just doesn't work that way
[10:47] <raingrove> thanks
[10:47] <chavo> Lord_Maynoth, http://klik.atekon.de/
[10:47] <kevogod> I do not believe parted can increase the size of an NTFS partition, or can it now?
[10:48] <Lord_Maynoth> chit gaim 1.50 AP worked great in hoary
[10:48] <Xenguy> Thanks everyone
[10:48] <raetsel99> Interesting debate about autopackage here http://www.netsplit.com/blog/ ( scroll down a bit )
[10:48] <thechitowncubs> kevogod, isn't it possible to resize in linux
[10:48] <thechitowncubs> ya
[10:48] <Lord_Maynoth> so did abiwork AP
[10:48] <sector10> it explains why no gcc is installed
[10:48] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: autopackage, er, like what?
[10:48] <thechitowncubs> apokryphos, what?
[10:48] <raingrove> K-Rich, is it possible to compile & build every package that is installed now? would that make my linux much faster?"
[10:48] <sampo_v2> any idea why hdspconf is not packaged for ubuntu?
[10:48] <raetsel99> raingrove - have you heard of gentoo ? ;o)
[10:48] <sector10> but right now you need it for realplayer
[10:48] <thechitowncubs> I was thinking more along the lines of the system rescue that is based of gentoo, will that contain all the tools i need to resize my ubuntu and ntfs partitions
[10:48] <chavo> raingrove, only if you count your spare time in nanoseconds
[10:49] <sector10> realplayer and bzflag should be fixed really
[10:49] <sector10> those are two fun programs
[10:49] <raingrove> raetsel99, gentoo does that all the time?
[10:49] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, I do not believe the System Rescue CD will be able to increase the size of an NTFS partition.
[10:49] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, It uses QtParted on that particular cd.
[10:49] <hilmar> hi @ all
[10:49] <raetsel99> chavo, worth compiling a kernel from source probably...?
[10:49] <hilmar> somebody knows how to get an x-forward through ssh?
[10:49] <raetsel99> raingrove, so I understand yes, gentoo is soley source based ( take about 3 days to install :o)
[10:50] <chavo> probably spend more time compiling than you end up saving
[10:50] <raingrove> jesus christ
[10:50] <raingrove> 3 days to install?
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> kevogod, what does the ubuntu install partioner use to resize ntfs?
[10:50] <kevogod> It does not take 3 days to install.
[10:50] <hilmar> it used to work with -X but now there are some errors when I want to open an application with a GUI
[10:50] <raetsel99> raingrove - see my smiley ;o)
[10:50] <Prower> I moved from Gentoo to Ubuntu because of the long compile times, actually :> It didn't take 3 days to install, but it took a lot longer than a typical Ubuntu install
[10:50] <raetsel99> it does take a while though
[10:50] <NoUse> raingrove thats a big of exageration, but its a complex distro, not a bad thing if you want to use it for a while because you will learn a lot
[10:50] <Lord_Maynoth> so correct me if I am wrong... all drivers are integrated into the kernel correct? (except maybe for printers etc)
[10:50] <K-Rich> raingrove: not sure how much faster.... would take a while to do and yeah it's possible... but i'd have to think on the command like... should be able to use awk in there with dpkg -l , but my brain isn't working that well right now lol
[10:50] <kevogod> Yes, that is to be expected since you COMPILE everything.
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> hmmm
[10:51] <chavo> well I build a lot of stuff from source, but only because I like bleeding edge
[10:51] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, I do not know what it uses.
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> maybe when breezy comes out i'll just reinstall both OS's
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> the only reason i use win32 is web design
[10:51] <Prower> kevogod: Yes, I'm aware of that...I did say that I used it
[10:51] <Lord_Maynoth> so that means if your device is supported by a new kernel but your distro has not upgraded the kernel your stuck waiting until they do.
[10:51] <raetsel99> any PowerPC Mac users on here?
[10:51] <Lord_Maynoth> am  I correct on that assumption
[10:51] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[10:51] <kevogod> I do not see any reason to use Windows for Web design, but each to their own.
[10:51] <raingrove> so should i try gentoo?
[10:52] <raetsel99> Lord_Maynoth most drivers are done as modules, not directly in the kernel
[10:52] <raingrove> does gentoo have apt kind of convenience?
[10:52] <kevogod> raingrove, If you have time, it fun.
[10:52] <chavo> thechitowncubs, you could resize your ubuntu partition and create a second ntfs for windows to use
[10:52] <kevogod> emerge!
[10:52] <thechitowncubs> chavo, thats a possibility thanks
[10:52] <chavo> or get partition magic
[10:52] <Lord_Maynoth> how does one install a driver modules
[10:52] <thechitowncubs> kevogod, its called dreamweaver and photoshop
[10:52] <raingrove> ok I have 1GB ram, and i assigned 1GB swap space and i rarely see it being used.
[10:52] <cribbon> raetsel99, [root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux# sudo make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-kernel2 kernel_image kernel_headers
[10:52] <cribbon> sudo: make-kpkg: command not found ] 
[10:52] <raingrove> people suggest 2x RAM = 2GB? crazy
[10:53] <thechitowncubs> raingrove, im sorry
[10:53] <daved> how can i install a local .deb that i have (downloaded from somewhere) but have all of its deps installed from apt?
[10:53] <raingrove> but 1GB seeems too much already
[10:53] <raingrove> how much swap space do u recommend?
[10:53] <chavo> daved, dpkg -i
[10:53] <bimberi> daved: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:53] <raetsel99> sorry cribbon, can't help you never used make-kpkg
[10:53] <daved> bimberi: not working
[10:53] <daved> it just complains that the dependencies aren't installed
[10:53] <thechitowncubs> raingrove, i recommend ubuntu defaul
[10:53] <thechitowncubs> t
[10:53] <cribbon> raetsel99, any other ideas then?
[10:53] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, I don't use a WYSIWYG Web editor so Dreamweaver is not a loss. Photoshop really doesn't have an equivalent yet.
[10:54] <Lord_Maynoth> just use autopackage daved... its a lot easier than dealing with all that crud
[10:54] <daved> Lord_Maynoth: huh?
[10:54] <raetsel99> well you could do a find and search for make-kpkg
[10:54] <thechitowncubs> kevogod, what do you use?
[10:54] <raingrove> huh?
[10:54] <wasabi_> Don't suppose anybody is aware where to get the VIA graphics unichrome kernel module?
[10:54] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, I use Bluefish and the GIMP
[10:54] <daved> Lord_Maynoth: i have a .deb already... i want to install it.. it has several unmet dependencies that can be installed from apt
[10:54] <raingrove> thechitowncubs/ i am talking about ubuntu. i have 1GB swap space, is that too much?
[10:54] <daved> what do i do?
[10:54] <chavo> raingrove, I have 1G ram and 1G of swap. rarely touch the swap though
[10:54] <thechitowncubs> raingrove, can never have too much
[10:54] <chavo> raingrove, if you have the diskspace, just leave it
[10:55] <raetsel99> cribbon - if you are chrooted maybe your root is below where make-kpkg is ???
[10:55] <raingrove> alright
[10:55] <bimberi> daved: pastebin the output from the dpkg command
[10:55] <bimberi> !pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:55] <raingrove> it seems like soon i would have to resize windows partition to make more room for linux partition.
[10:55] <raingrove> however i dont wanna do a reinstall. is it possible to resize linux partition?
[10:55] <raingrove> can partition magic do it fine
[10:56] <kevogod> raingrove, You can resize Linux partitions with parted.
[10:56] <raingrove> is parted safe?
[10:56] <kevogod> raingrove, gparted for GNOME and qtparted for QT
[10:56] <kevogod> raingrove, Yes, on Linux partitions
[10:57] <_tarball> I have just got my laptop set up so it goes into hibernate when I press the power button, however, after restarting the machine goes back into hibernation after a couple of minutes, on the second restart its fine.  Any ideas?
[10:57] <kevogod> raingrove, Although keep in mind that bads happen at the worst times
[10:57] <kevogod> *bad things
[10:57] <cribbon> raetsel99, nope, rooted into "/"
[10:57] <kevogod> Murphy's Law
[10:57] <basvg> hmm, I just upgraded another box to ubuntu and I keep getting '_IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.
[10:58] <K-Rich> raingrove: though out the command for you
[10:58] <basvg> does anyone know how to fix that?
[10:58] <raetsel99> hmm sorry cribbon , out of ideas
[10:58] <cribbon> raetsel99, i could just compile and install it the usual way, right?
[10:58] <raetsel99> sorry cribbon I don't actually understand what it is you are trying to do
[10:58] <basvg> more specifically, I get an error when I try to log in (and the error I jst pasted is from ~/.xsession-errors)
[10:59] <raingrove> K-Rich, though out?
[10:59] <HeMan> Hi! My machine shuts down when i've resumed from suspend to ram
[10:59] <linad> good night guys
[10:59] <Dalkus> a game runnign fullscreen in KDE crashed and I had to kill -9 it. it left me with my resulution covering only the top quarter of my screen. how can I refresh it without logging out and in?
[10:59] <cribbon> raetsel99, i am trying to get my kernel working again after it installed it yesterday, but it contained errors which i've now fixed with chroot , make menuconfig. Now i need to install the new kernel so i can use my regular system ( working with the live cd now ).
[10:59] <darkling> wasabi_: You can get unichrome stuff from http://www.ivor.it
[11:00] <Lord_Maynoth> so at what point do you guys think unbuntu will be evolved enough where the CLI is not necessary?
[11:00] <HeMan> i try to find anything like this in the bugzilla but i find nothing there
[11:00] <raetsel99> oh I see, cribbon never done anything like that. sorry
[11:00] <mustard5> Lord_Maynoth, I think the power of the command line will have it around for a lot longer to come
[11:01] <Lord_Maynoth> well thats not what I ment
[11:01] <Lord_Maynoth> meant
[11:01] <cribbon> raetsel99, ok, thanks anyway
[11:01] <raetsel99> u r welcom , cribbon
[11:01] <bimberi> Lord_Maynoth: cli fixes are easier to specify on irc :)
[11:01] <damg> hi, can anyone please post the link to full linux ati drivers? ati.com is so dumb that lynx cannot display it and i need those drivers to get X working ...
[11:02] <Lord_Maynoth> I meant when do you think the CLI will not be necessary for the adverage user
[11:02] <K-Rich> raingrove:  apt-get -b source `COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}'`
[11:02] <damg> i mean a direct link to that 50+MB file
[11:02] <NoUse> !tell damg about ati
[11:02] <Lord_Maynoth> like everything could be done from gui if need be
[11:02] <NoUse> damg follow those instructions
[11:02] <El_Che> !tell El_Che about ati
[11:02] <raingrove> K-Rich/ that will recompile every package in my hard drive?
[11:02] <raingrove> build from source?
[11:03] <basscr> how do i stop the window manager of ubuntu to instal the fluxbox ?
[11:03] <damg> NoUse: it won't work so easily, I need to edit the binary module and apt-get doesn't provide me several files I seem to need
[11:04] <damg> e.g. /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/*
[11:04] <[A] ndy80> just rebuilt a kernel, now when I boot I get this error: kernel panic - not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block... how can I fix it?
[11:05] <basscr> how do i stop the window manager of ubuntu to instal the fluxbox ?
[11:05] <me_> hi need help seeing a raid drive on ntfs format any idea
[11:05] <me_> please
[11:05] <damg> anyone? just a plain http:// or ftp:// to the ati drivers somewhere on ati.com
[11:06] <cwillu> I've got a panel stuck in the middle of the screen.  How do I get it back to the bottom?
[11:06] <K-Rich> raingrove: it should, i didn't test it myself (i've no need to) bt the command shoud get all the source packages, compile, install then, the packages dplg -l has listed as installed
[11:06] <cwillu> (breezy)
[11:06] <NoUse> damg https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9448/1m/dlmdownloads.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run?
[11:07] <jimmy_> how do i find my kernel version?
[11:07] <raetsel99> well I'm off for the night, catch you folks later
[11:07] <damg> NoUse: thank you very much
[11:07] <TylerDurden> can somebody help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3023
[11:07] <Skidoo> jimmy_: uname -a
[11:07] <K-Rich> raingrove: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}' will list the packages to be compiled and installed
[11:07] <jimmy_> thanks
[11:07] <raingrove> what does COLUMNS=200 do
[11:07] <carthik> HI, is there a way for me to create a complete perfect image of my laptop - so that I can backup somewhere and then restore it simply enough - not just the data, but the "State" of the machine, installed apps etc?
[11:07] <raingrove> does it limit no of packages to 200?
[11:08] <cwillu> cathik;  you're looking for a ghost or imaging tool... I'm pretty sure you can do it from linux, there are also several third party programs that can do it
[11:08] <lonki> carthik, dd
[11:08] <K-Rich> raingrove: it makes awk read the entire package name (unless it excedes 200 characters which i don't thank any do)
[11:08] <carthik> lonki, dd of what? I have heard that the some directories can be excluded, for example?
[11:09] <TylerDurden> can somebody help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3023
[11:09] <carthik> cwillu, would you know of a tool available in the ubuntu repos?
[11:09] <weezer> hola a todos
[11:09] <cwillu> not off hand, sorry :(
[11:09] <lonki> carthik, no, dd just copies the blocks, I think you want a backup system :-)
[11:09] <damg> NoUse: i just hope, i copied it without typos, since im in recovery mode i have to leave (only 1 tty) :D
[11:09] <nrbq> Orborde, I think it must be something to do with ndiswrapper
[11:10] <carthik> lonki, for one i hear one should not copy /proc /dev etc... i am on unsure ground here -- any help would be welcome...
[11:10] <NoUse> TylerDurden apt-get install build-essential
[11:10] <TylerDurden> i did NoUse
[11:10] <nrbq> I've just run the updates and it failed with an error about linux_image_2.6 something and ndiswrapper.ko
[11:10] <carthik> on mac, i had "carbon copy" which worked great
[11:10] <cwillu> a block mode imager can't really ignore files;  what some of them do is image the 'important' parts of the machine, and then just do normal file backups of the rest
[11:10] <duncanm> anyone use ruby here?
[11:10] <duncanm> is there no rubygems for breezy?
[11:10] <lonki> carthik, once you boot such an image proc will be filled again with relevant info
[11:10] <cevizoglu> how can I scan my hard disk for bad blocks?
[11:11] <NoUse> TylerDurden apt-get install gcc-3.4
[11:11] <TylerDurden> what if i do CC=gcc-4.0?
[11:11] <TylerDurden> or 3.4
[11:11] <NoUse> TylerDurden what version do you have installed?
[11:12] <TylerDurden> im not sure, i think 4.0 how can i make sure?
[11:12] <Orborde> Well, I rebooted, changed settings, rebooted again, etc., and I still have the dreaded Double Clock Speed Problem.
[11:12] <NoUse> TylerDurden gcc -v
[11:12] <TylerDurden> 4.0.1
[11:12] <TylerDurden> .2*
[11:12] <lonki> cevizoglu, there is a tool called badblocks, I'm not aware if it is distributed with ubuntu
[11:12] <cwillu> My power went out yesterday a few hours after I upgraded to breezy... when it came back, I had to do the 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' dance to get the resolution higher than 640x480.  But once that was working, the taskbar that was at the bottom of the screen is now stuck about a third of the way up (if I had to guess, I'd say at 480).  Going into preferences and changing it to top/side/bottom/whatever doesn't move it (although the
[11:12] <cwillu>  side ones do make it vertical, just stuck in the center).  Any ideas?
[11:12] <cribbon> what command can i search for packages with apt ?
[11:12] <NoUse> yeah try the CC option, but I'm not sure
[11:12] <carthik> lonki, thanks, also /sys /dev /mnt and /media, I suppose?
[11:12] <NoUse> cribbon apt-cache search
[11:13] <xiaogil> i can't delete the main user with userdel, how can i reinitialize it then ?
[11:13] <cribbon> ty
[11:13] <lonki> carthik, yes, I think so
[11:13] <Orborde> Actually, not quite. It's ironic. I got rid of the DCSP by running the kernel with noapictimer, but then my network was fraggled.
[11:13] <carthik> lonki, the only way is to try it once i suppose *dons crash test helmet*
[11:13] <SeTsU> hi
[11:13] <CzarAlex> whats the console command to check what version of ubuntu I have?
[11:13] <[Spooky] > anyone got skype working in Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[11:14] <NoUse>  lsb_release -a
[11:14] <lonki> carthik, true, but then again, it will hold relevant info so if you restore it on the same machine there will be no loss
[11:14] <NoUse> CzarAlex --^
[11:14] <SeTsU> how can i mount a FAT32 partition on my ubuntu? i know how to on FC, but i just got this... :P
[11:14] <CzarAlex> NoUse, would that tell if I had ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[11:14] <carthik> lonki, yup, i am just getting ready to reinstall when breezy comes out just for the heck of it
[11:14] <lonki> mount -t vfat /foo /bar
[11:14] <Trashcan> oh woot
[11:14] <NoUse> CzarAlex they are really the same thing
[11:14] <Trashcan> upgraded acpi
[11:14] <CzarAlex> NoUse, Thank you.
[11:14] <Trashcan> maybe it will actually work now
[11:14] <SeTsU> thank ye
[11:15] <dirkvdbroek> Hello, can anyone help me to setup the windows file sharing so that it can be found by other pc's in my network?
[11:15] <Licker> how would I manually remove php?
[11:15] <SeTsU> hmm i get "mount point /bar does not exist"
[11:15] <lonki> I never expected this much Dutch people in one channel :-)
[11:16] <trans_err> I'm trying to install a huapage wintv (mode 401) card-- all the drivers seemed to have loaded properly but all i get is a blue screen (no signal)-- any ideas?
[11:16] <K-Rich> lol lonki
[11:16] <NoUse> !tell dirkvdbroek about samba
[11:16] <K-Rich> !tell k-richt samba
[11:16] <mustard5> trans_err, changed to 'grabdisplay' and see it works
[11:16] <K-Rich> !tell K-Rich about samba
[11:16] <[Spooky] > anyone got skype working in Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[11:16] <CzarAlex> dirkvdbroek, www.ubuntuguide.org has a section on samba
[11:16] <mustard5> you using xawtv, trans_err ?
[11:16] <lonki> K-Rich, even #php doesn't have so many Dutch visitor, it used to be one of the bussiest channels
[11:16] <cevizoglu> lonki: looks like it's built-in
[11:16] <trans_err> mustard5: ill use anything that works
[11:16] <tony_the_cable_g> I have a 64 Bit Intel Dell.  Which Distro do I use?
[11:16] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[11:17] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:17] <mustard5> trans_err, I run my wintv card using xawtv
[11:17] <CzarAlex> NoUse, ah thanks again.
[11:17] <mustard5> trans_err, you on hoary or breezy>
[11:17] <mustard5> ?
[11:17] <trans_err> mustard5: breezy
[11:17] <dieman> anyone here on i2?
[11:18] <dieman> or a reasonably fast (100mbps?) network
[11:18] <trans_err> mustard5: grabdisplay?
[11:18] <HeMan> [Spooky] : I have skype working under 5.10 (breezy badger)
[11:18] <SeTsU> i can't seem to get my FAT32 partition mounted... it's on another physical disk but i don't know if its because of that
[11:18] <mustard5> trans_err, ah good, cause I had a lot of grief with xawtv on hoary :D
[11:18] <mustard5> xawtv can use overlay mode or a 'grapdisplay' mode
[11:18] <[Spooky] > HeMan: using static or installed ?
[11:18] <trans_err> mustard5: how do I switch?
[11:19] <mustard5> trans_err, use synapitic package manager to download xawtv
[11:19] <HeMan> [Spooky] : Just realised that it was some time ago i installed it
[11:19] <trans_err> mustard5: i already have it installed
[11:19] <mustard5> k
[11:19] <cwillu> Hmm... another display bug in breezy
[11:20] <HeMan> [Spooky] : I have skype 1.0.0.20-1
[11:20] <mustard5> trans_err, try v4l-conf(in terminal) and tell me what it says
[11:20] <mustard5> paste ouput in #flood
[11:20] <trans_err> mustard5: no overlay support
[11:20] <mustard5> yeah...so you need to use the 'grabdisplay' option probably instead of overlay
[11:21] <trans_err> right, how do I enable that?
[11:21] <[AoW] WolfsEye> i have a question, will 5.10 released on 13.10. ?
[11:21] <mustard5> trans_err, the command scantv will show you how to scan channels and set up a config file
[11:21] <NoUse> [AoW] WolfsEye yes
[11:21] <[AoW] WolfsEye> thx
[11:21] <qt2> brb, gotta reboot connection.
[11:21] <[AoW] WolfsEye> me too, gn8 ;)
[11:21] <wasabi_> Anybody aware of Via Unichrome drivers for Breezy?
[11:21] <mustard5> type info scantv or man scantv for the manual
[11:22] <SeTsU> Can anyone help me mount my FAT32 partition please?
[11:22] <trans_err> mustard5: scantv fails "can't open /dev/vbi"
[11:22] <NoUse> !fat32
[11:22] <ubotu> I guess fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:22] <mustard5> ok
[11:22] <mustard5> try this....(one tick)
[11:23] <tony_the_cable_g> I have a 64 Bit Intel Dell.  Which Distro do I use?
[11:23] <sockpuppe1> having a bit of trouble with the upgrade
[11:23] <SeTsU> NoUse, ty
[11:23] <mustard5> trans_err, scantv -c /dev/video0 -C /dev/vbi0
[11:23] <HrdwrBob> tony_the_cable_g: depends
[11:23] <mcquaid> how can i pipe the output of a program to a text file when foo > list fails?
[11:23] <HrdwrBob> tony_the_cable_g: if you want to easily use flash and 32 bit binaries
[11:23] <HrdwrBob> including things like video codecs
[11:23] <HrdwrBob> use standard i386 ubuntu
[11:24] <tarzeau> mcquaid: 2> ?
[11:24] <trans_err> mustard5: doesn't find any stations :/
[11:24] <HrdwrBob> if these things are not important to you
[11:24] <HrdwrBob> use amd64
[11:24] <mustard5> hmmm.....
[11:24] <mustard5> is the aerial plugged in?
[11:24] <pipoun> can you advise me a good CMS? xoops mambo spip egroupware?
[11:24] <sockpuppe1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:24] <sockpuppe1>  /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:24] <trans_err> yeah. but im going to double check the connection-- brb
[11:24] <Skidoo> i'm trying to configure grub for my previous kernel, but i can't seem to find my revious kernel. does ubuntu keep these anywhere handy?
[11:24] <HrdwrBob> pipoun: ubuntu uses plone I think
[11:25] <mustard5> trans_err, ok
[11:25] <mcquaid> tarzeau, that works thx
[11:25] <sockpuppe1> can anyone help
[11:25] <sockpuppe1> ?
[11:25] <HrdwrBob> sockpuppe1: you need to put the full error in pastebin
[11:26] <tony_the_cable_g> So I should use the same one I have on this machine(32 bit AMD)
[11:26] <tony_the_cable_g> ?
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> yes
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> it'll still be fast
[11:26] <tony_the_cable_g> Thanks Bob.
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> oh
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> sorry hangon
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> tony_the_cable_g: user 32bit no matter what
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> tony_the_cable_g: 64 bit intel is a waste of time
[11:26] <SeTsU> !nvidia
[11:26] <HrdwrBob> *use
[11:26] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:27] <Kerr> !unichrome
[11:27] <ubotu> Kerr: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:27] <tony_the_cable_g> OK....So much for that 600 bucks....LOL
[11:27] <sockpuppe1> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3026 hrdwrbob!
[11:27] <HrdwrBob> :)
[11:27] <HeMan> [Spooky] : Just upgraded to 1.2.0.17, didn't work...
[11:27] <Skidoo> anyone know where old kernel images a stored?
[11:28] <[Spooky] > HeMan: same here :/
[11:28] <HrdwrBob> sockpuppe1: remove libwine-gl
[11:28] <HeMan> [Spooky] : Umm, sorry, just added --force-all to my dpkg command
[11:28] <HeMan> [Spooky] : _did_ work!
[11:28] <[Spooky] > HeMan: where did you get the deb then ?
[11:29] <HeMan> skype.com
[11:29] <tony_the_cable_g> Just curious......I tried both Kubuntu and Ubuntu....Ubuntu seems to constantly have updates where Kubuntu never does..Any reason for that?
[11:29] <[Spooky] > HeMan: yepp i saw it now, im blind hehe
[11:30] <sockpuppe1> hrdwrbob i cant seem to get rid of it
[11:30] <tony_the_cable_g> How is Skype?
[11:30] <sockpuppe1> skype is pretty cool on linux
[11:30] <HeMan> [Spooky] : it's alot slower to start than my old version (1.0.0.20)
[11:30] <tony_the_cable_g> It only charges if you call a land line?
[11:30] <sockpuppe1> yeah tony
[11:31] <HeMan> yes, it has some cool dbus interface so that you could talk to it from other applications
[11:31] <sockpuppe1> pc to pc=free
[11:31] <tony_the_cable_g> I have Vonage.
[11:31] <HeMan> tony_the_cable_g: and it's usually local rate
[11:31] <tony_the_cable_g> Is it cheaper than Vonage?
[11:32] <guru54> 20 bucks a month
[11:32] <miksu> so how long ;)
[11:32] <tony_the_cable_g> WOW...
[11:32] <tony_the_cable_g> unlimited?
[11:32] <sockpuppe1> hrdwrbob what should I do
[11:32] <SeTsU> !dns
[11:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, SeTsU
[11:32] <SeTsU> !dhcp
[11:32] <ubotu> SeTsU: I haven't a clue
[11:32] <SeTsU> !dns
[11:33] <SeTsU> !network
[11:33] <miksu> HEY i did dist-upgrade and its iupgrading...any explanation
[11:33] <ubotu> SeTsU: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:33] <Dalkus> in KDE what do I need to download to change the titlebar appearance of a windows
[11:33] <SeTsU> !networking
[11:33] <ubotu> SeTsU: Syntax error in line 1
[11:33] <Dalkus> *window?
[11:33] <guru54> yea tony_the_cable_g  its mci unlimited long distance
[11:33] <d3vice> hi
[11:33] <asparagui> when's breezy gonna go live?
[11:33] <tony_the_cable_g> That is to cool.... I'm downloading it now.
[11:34] <[Spooky] > i get this shit: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:34] <[N] ame> asparagui, Tomorrow supposedly
[11:34] <HrdwrBob> sockpuppe1: dpkg --purge libwine-gl
[11:35] <asparagui> gmt?  ;-)
[11:35] <miksu> but i did apt-get dist-upgrade! why is it upgrading
[11:35] <[Spooky] > HeMan: i guess i have to give up skype...
[11:35] <[N] ame> asparagui, supposedly 0:00 gmt on the 13th
[11:36] <[N] ame> pretty sure though that wont happen
[11:36] <fonsd> hi everybody, I'm not really good in english so I apologize to only post a question without discussing before :
[11:36] <fonsd> I have a probleme when a try a "apt-get update". I have several times this kind of msg :
[11:36] <fonsd> "Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/main Packages"
[11:36] <fonsd> So my question is : Why does apt ignore those packages (all main, universe, multiverse and restricted for hoary-extras hoary-extras-staging and hoary-backports) ?
[11:36] <tony_the_cable_g> One more question....Whenever I try to play Tux Racer or TuxTyping, the screen goes black and the monitor says check PC settings. Any ideas?
[11:36] <blkdomini2> hi all
[11:36] <fonsd> Can I fix this problem ?
[11:36] <fonsd> how ?
[11:36] <sockpuppe1> hrdwrbob its moving along now
[11:36] <mustard5> miksu, take the space out..... try apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:37] <KenSentMe> occy: is Breezy out yet?
[11:37] <mustard5> hmmm....might have just looked like a space,
[11:37] <blkdomini2> i have ubuntu 5.10 Breezy preview i would like remove GPG key control for change my repositories, how is it possible?
[11:37] <[N] ame> fonsd, there appears to be something wrong with your sources.list
[11:37] <Orborde> Did Breezy go and switch to ALSA instead of ESD, or what?
[11:37] <miksu> mustard actually i did
[11:37] <tahorg> alsa and esd are 2 different things
[11:38] <ubuntuguy> anyone: Has Breezy been delayed?
[11:38] <judax> KenSentMe: not yet
[11:38] <redspike> anyone have get the nvidia driver to work nice?
[11:38] <fonsd> ok but here is what I've got :
[11:38] <fonsd> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:38] <fonsd> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:38] <fonsd> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:38] <fonsd> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:38] <HrdwrBob> redspike: nicely
[11:38] <HrdwrBob> and yes
[11:38] <fonsd> I don't see any error
[11:38] <esac> how do i forward a single port ?
[11:38] <fonsd> I have searched the web, forums etc...
[11:38] <mustard5> fonsd, paste in #flood or pastebin please
[11:38] <fonsd> but nothing helps
[11:39] <redspike> HrdwrBob, do you use the driver from www.nvidia.com ?
[11:39] <fonsd> where ?
[11:39] <fonsd> pastebin ?
[11:39] <KenSentMe> judax, i know, but it was too tempting to not ask
[11:39] <blkdomini2> i would like add debain repositories
[11:39] <HrdwrBob> redspike: recently yes  idid
[11:39] <blkdomini2> *debian
[11:39] <mustard5> !tell fonsd about pastebine
[11:39] <mustard5> !tell fonsd about pastebin
[11:39] <HrdwrBob> however breezy will have the latest driver
[11:39] <HrdwrBob> so use that
[11:39] <[N] ame> fonsd, and you did a apt-get update
[11:39] <judax> KenSentMe: not very many days left however
[11:39] <tony_the_cable_g> One more question....Whenever I try to play Tux Racer or TuxTyping, the screen goes black and the monitor says check PC settings. Any ideas?
[11:39] <fonsd> yes
[11:40] <fonsd> I did
[11:40] <KenSentMe> judax it's planned for tomorrow isn't it
[11:40] <Kerr> 'ello... I reccomended ubuntu to a friend, she installed yesterday and all was fine. today, her screen 'ripples'... she uses VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01) and from her pasting bits of her xorg.conf she's using the vi driver. a quick google reveled that there is a unichrome driver, but i'm unfamiliar with xorg. Any ideas, like; is the driver apt-getable, or already installed?
[11:40] <Syrra> Hmm, breezy isn't out yet?
[11:40] <Orborde> Did Breezy go and switch to ALSA instead of ESD, or what?
[11:40] <fonsd> I have try to clean the cache
[11:40] <Orborde> Syrra: Not officially.
[11:40] <Syrra> okay
[11:40] <Licker> Do i need to stop services in order to unisall things?
[11:40] <[N] ame> fonsd, Id try recreating your sources.list
[11:41] <mustard5> Licker, no
[11:41] <[N] ame> back to default
[11:41] <miksu> someone smart try apt-get dist-upgrade     ,      it is upgrading         is breezy out in ftp?
[11:41] <Jaivaz> How do I make Nautilus open in the same window?
[11:41] <julioams> in 2 hors
[11:41] <Jaivaz> I forgot how and it keeps opening in different windows.
[11:41] <julioams> at 00:00 GMT
[11:41] <fonsd> I tried 3 differents sources.list (default, manual, and the one from ubuntustarterguide)
[11:42] <miksu> so what is my terminal doing, it began upgrading or is dist-upgrade a general guideline to upgrade ever ything to recent date
[11:43] <trans_err> mustard5: still around. I can't think of anything else...
[11:43] <[N] ame> miksu, i hope you set your sources.list to point to breezy before running dist-upgrade
[11:43] <fonsd> Here is the one I wrote : http://pastebin.com/391665
[11:43] <tonio_> would anybody like to help me set up freevo
[11:43] <mustard5> trans_err, yeah..I've been waiting to here news :)
[11:43] <HrdwrBob> tonio_: freevo requires actually editing the code to freevo
[11:43] <HrdwrBob> last time I set it up
[11:44] <miksu> name of course breezy cd , breezy universe, breezy upgrades (not universe) breezy security upgrades (not universe) done in synaptic
[11:44] <HrdwrBob> and I don't have the time atm
[11:44] <trans_err> mustard5: the cable definetly works-- but I still don't get any channels-- I havn't seen where I could set grabcapture mode though
[11:44] <mustard5> trans_err, start up xawt tv and do a right click on the screen
[11:44] <HrdwrBob> tonio_: send an email to matt@vicnet.net.au and I might do a howto
[11:44] <tonio_> ok
[11:44] <qt2> grr, reboot time.
[11:44] <Jaivaz> Wtf, I can't choose images from /.icons/ as icons for launchers
[11:45] <mustard5> trans_err, there is a hidden file in your HOME directory called .xawtv which should contain your config
[11:45] <trans_err> mustard5: well now its black instead of blue...
[11:45] <trans_err> and scantv still refuses to work
[11:45] <mustard5> black is good
[11:45] <mustard5> blue is bad :D
[11:46] <mustard5> black means progress
[11:46] <trans_err> mustard5: good-- no where do I go :D
[11:46] <thechitowncubs> kevogod, are you still here?
[11:46] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, Yes
[11:46] <thechitowncubs> kevogod, what do you use for uploading to the server w/ bluefish?
[11:46] <fonsd> and here is the result from the posted source.list when I "apt-get update" my system : http://pastebin.com/391668
[11:46] <thechitowncubs> gftp is so clunky and takes so many clicks
[11:47] <Kerr> does anyone know where i can find a via s3 unichrome driver, or if the driver is already installed on hoary?
[11:47] <Jaivaz> Hey, can anyone help me with this? I can't choose any images from /.icons/ as my icons for launchers.
[11:47] <mustard5> I'd try this in console....   xawtv -device /dev/video0 -vbidev /dev/vbi0
[11:47] <bipolar> Seveas, Ping
[11:48] <chavo> thechitowncubs, is the server running sshd?
[11:48] <thechitowncubs> chavo, not sure, why
[11:48] <trans_err> mustard5: static city
[11:49] <chavo> in KDE you just set up a shortcut using fish:// then you can save the file directly from save dialog to server
[11:49] <chavo> you can do it in gnome also I believe
[11:49] <Kerr> !VT8378
[11:49] <ubotu> Kerr: I don't know
[11:49] <mustard5> trans_err, when you right click on the screen does it bring up the options menu?
[11:49] <Kerr> !Via
[11:49] <ubotu> Kerr: Are you on ritalin?
[11:49] <chavo> just not sure how to set it up in Gnome
[11:49] <trans_err> mustard5: yup
[11:49] <mustard5> grab is in there
[11:49] <trans_err> mustard5: its set
[11:49] <thechitowncubs> chavo, i'm not familiar with fish
[11:50] <thechitowncubs> chavo, yes it does have ssh
[11:50] <mustard5> hmmm..your so close its painful trans_err  :D
[11:50] <trans_err> mustard5: maybe its a chanel thing?
[11:50] <mustard5> I'd fiddle with the Ctrl-uparrow and try tuning manuallly
[11:50] <mustard5> has it got your country frequency table loaded?
[11:51] <_iGadget_> which tools should I be using for handling lvm partitions?
[11:51] <mustard5> if you look carefully at the scantv instructions you can create an empty config file called .xawtv in your home directory
[11:51] <chavo> thechitowncubs, fish is a KDE frontend to ssh and scp, like I said I don't know hot to set it up for gnome though. It would use gnome-vfs I assume
[11:51] <trans_err> mustard5: yeah :/
[11:51] <trans_err> mustard5: still all static
[11:52] <mustard5> sounds like we need to work on scantv more
[11:52] <Kerr> mumble.
[11:53] <El_Che> thechitowncubs, chavo : is there in gnome. Just press ctrl + l in nautilus and type user@ssh.host.name
[11:53] <mustard5> type cat ~/.xawtv and paste in #flood
[11:53] <El_Che> and that's it
[11:53] <trans_err> mustard5: I jsut ran i again-- it doesn't find any stations :/
[11:53] <El_Che> you can even mount from places
[11:53] <ccfiel> hello ppl
[11:54] <chavo> El_Che, but you can add a link to it in the open/save dialog also, right?
[11:54] <ccfiel> where can i find icons directory in ubuntu?
[11:54] <thechitowncubs> El_Che, when you mount from places is there an actually place in the filesystem where it is mounted to so i can save files from external apps to there?
[11:54] <mustard5> what options are you running scantv with trans_err ?
[11:54] <nrgl> greetings, earthlings!
[11:54] <Dekkard> ok
[11:54] <tony_the_cable_g> One more question....Whenever I try to play Tux Racer or TuxTyping, the screen goes black and the monitor says check PC settings. Any ideas?
[11:55] <trans_err> mustard5: now, none-- I linked /dev/vbi0 -> /dev/vbi
[11:55] <nrgl> does anyone know where the libpam-ldap can be found for Breazy?
[11:55] <mustard5> ah ok..thats what I did...soft linked them
[11:56] <ccfiel> where can i find icons directory in ubuntu?
[11:56] <antix> when is the release date for breezy?
[11:56] <carthik> so is breezy set to be released tomorrow - at what time?
[11:56] <Belutz> ccfiel, /usr/share/pixmaps
[11:56] <mustard5> and you linked /dev/video0 with /dev/video?
[11:56] <Kerr> antix: a day or two after duke nukem forever, i hear.
[11:56] <ccfiel> belutz thaks
[11:56] <trans_err> /dev/vbi0 -> /dev/vbi
[11:56] <carthik> antix, tomorrow (13th) dont know if it is on track, which is what I want to find out
[11:56] <BlankB> carthik: tomorrow is relative to where in the world you are. 8)
[11:56] <KenSentMe> Kerr, lol
[11:57] <carthik> BlankB, I will be happy with a UTC time :o)
[11:57] <julioams> hehehe
[11:57] <mustard5> what about /dev/video0 -> /dev/video ?
[11:57] <cafuego_> shoo!
[11:57] <BlankB> carthik: I dont think there is an eta other than Oct 13th.
[11:58] <Razor-X> meh, I was hoping Breezy would come out the day after Knife of Dreams
[11:58] <carthik> BlankB, ah! I shall die of anxiety then - been literally counting days -- now hours
[11:58] <mustard5> hmmm...ah..one more question....have you run any other sound devices recently trans_err ?
[11:58] <Razor-X> Wheel of Time reader Ubuntu users are let down everywhere :P
[11:58] <cafuego_> carthik: Oct 13 is today (and has been for 8 hours)
[11:58] <mustard5> I would try a killall esd and the try to run again
[11:58] <Razor-X> s/reader/reading/
[11:58] <carthik> cafuego_, can't be, unless you are in NZ
[11:58] <carthik> ;)
[11:58] <KenSentMe> cafuego_, not here
[11:59] <cafuego_> cathik: I'm not in NZ.
[11:59] <KenSentMe> cafuego_, it starts in a minute
[11:59] <cpalma> AU then?
[11:59] <cafuego_> cpalma: yeah
[11:59] <carthik> (lucky cafuego gets ubuntu a DAY before I do - hrmph)
[11:59] <cafuego_> carthik: I've been using breezy for months