| fabbione | hey BenC | 12:40 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12 (preX,19) | ||
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| johnm | Just curious about something. Do any of you guys use keychain? | 12:16 |
| fabbione | keychain? | 12:16 |
| \sh | the gentoo keychain tool? | 12:16 |
| fabbione | what's that? | 12:17 |
| johnm | keychain was originally written years ago. Think drobbins did it. I had a hand in changing it, and recently it's changed a load more as well. it's a keychain/agent tool. Awesome for gpg-agent and ssh-agent. | 12:17 |
| fabbione | i don't | 12:17 |
| johnm | makes life a LOT easier when dealing with ssh/gpg keys. | 12:17 |
| johnm | Wondered if anyone used it :\ | 12:17 |
| === \sh never used it even during his gentoo days | ||
| fabbione | johnm: i prefer to do it manually | 12:17 |
| fabbione | i don't like automatic management of my keys | 12:18 |
| Mithrandir | ssh-agent isn't exactly much overhead anyway. Log in, run ssh wherever and have the keys stored in the agent. | 12:18 |
| johnm | fabbione: I assume you dont scp/ssh/sign a load of stuff in one go? ;) | 12:18 |
| johnm | Mithrandir: nah your right., the only thing is adding the keys automagically etc. | 12:19 |
| fabbione | johnm: i do.. i just don't use these agents | 12:19 |
| Mithrandir | johnm: ssh='ssh-add -l > /dev/null 2>&1 || ssh-add ; \ssh' | 12:19 |
| Mithrandir | does that for me. | 12:19 |
| johnm | Anyways.. just a question. Was curious about something related. | 12:19 |
| === fabbione did sign hell of a lot of keys | ||
| johnm | fabbione: gpg-agent is a godsend when it comes to 500+ file signoffs. | 12:20 |
| fabbione | http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/ka/2005-10-02/top50table.html | 12:20 |
| johnm | fabbione: I can't imagine typing passwords win 500+ times at once ;) | 12:20 |
| fabbione | <- number 24 | 12:20 |
| johnm | s/win/in/ | 12:20 |
| fabbione | johnm: that's why you use other methogs | 12:20 |
| fabbione | methods | 12:20 |
| === \sh looks forward to ubz.. | ||
| Mithrandir | johnm: why do you sign 500 files? | 12:21 |
| johnm | Mithrandir: I could go into it, but it'll probably start a flamewar ;).. Basically.. every actual signing is part of a seperate process. The signing off is done to validate the security of a Manifest. | 12:22 |
| \sh | ah..ebuild process | 12:22 |
| Mithrandir | johnm: I'd probably just use my smart card then. Punch the code and it's valid until I pull the card out of the reader. | 12:23 |
| fabbione | johnm: we are not THAT religious | 12:23 |
| fabbione | but if it is used for gentoo release, it must be crap | 12:23 |
| fabbione | :P | 12:23 |
| johnm | Mithrandir: I've done that before. | 12:23 |
| johnm | fabbione: heh. | 12:23 |
| johnm | Funnily enough I properly watched Shuttleworths talk at debconf | 12:24 |
| johnm | it's actually quite surprising how similar all the camps are, but because of misconceptions of the way people think/act it brings this kind of segregation. | 12:24 |
| johnm | The release process is nothing like I stated. | 12:24 |
| johnm | re: gpg signing. | 12:25 |
| \sh | fabbione: lol..don't mention this on #gentoo-dev ,) | 12:25 |
| fabbione | johnm: you are talking to ex crux maintainer :) | 12:25 |
| fabbione | johnm: really.. i did try everything out there without preconcetions | 12:25 |
| fabbione | but i still like to kid about stuff | 12:25 |
| fabbione | hence the ":P" | 12:25 |
| johnm | Picked up on it :) - Was just on my mind this morning anyways. | 12:26 |
| johnm | tbh... | 12:26 |
| fabbione | johnm: i mean.. i am even REDHAT CERTIFIED ENGINEER!!! | 12:26 |
| johnm | Gentoo devs in many cases hate gentoo users. | 12:26 |
| \sh | johnm: social problems will never be solved with technical things | 12:26 |
| johnm | fabbione: lol, you dont want to know what I think about that! positive I suppose tho ;) | 12:26 |
| === fabbione is not happy about that, but it still shows on google | ||
| \sh | fabbione: u paid money for it? | 12:26 |
| fabbione | \sh: not a single penny... | 12:27 |
| fabbione | my company did :) | 12:27 |
| fabbione | not Canonical of course | 12:27 |
| fabbione | one i was working for before | 12:27 |
| johnm | Anyone recommend a good podcast app? | 12:27 |
| fabbione | johnm: there is one positive thing about the RHCE | 12:27 |
| johnm | (gtk2) | 12:27 |
| fabbione | the coffee mug you get at the end is pretty good :) | 12:27 |
| johnm | fabbione: lol. | 12:28 |
| fabbione | i admin RH can produce really good cups | 12:28 |
| \sh | fabbione: hmmm...i have a red fedora...wanna have it? | 12:28 |
| johnm | fabbione: an RHCE is one of those funny thigns which even though everyone worth his salt thinks they're a bit umm.. unusual. Companies recognise it as about the only real proof of someones skills re: linux. | 12:28 |
| johnm | depends on company of course. | 12:28 |
| \sh | fabbione: or my redhat baseball cap? which is somehow used when I was painting my house the last time | 12:28 |
| johnm | Anyone go to LWE | 12:29 |
| johnm | ? | 12:29 |
| johnm | Alan turned up in a full-on Red Hat hat. | 12:29 |
| fabbione | johnm: actually it was a request from the company but for very different reasons other than a piece of paper | 12:29 |
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| fabbione | at the end i gained a 2 weeks paied holidays from my company at the price of making an exam | 12:30 |
| johnm | fabbione: like most certs? to show company competancy and claim benefits from suppliers? | 12:30 |
| fabbione | no no | 12:30 |
| fabbione | nothing like that | 12:30 |
| \sh | hehe...I should wear the fedora during ubz...wearing a ms shirt and have my trolltech shirt as kilt replacement | 12:30 |
| fabbione | johnm: i will explain another time :) | 12:30 |
| johnm | fabbione: :) | 12:30 |
| johnm | no one podcast here? :) | 12:31 |
| \sh | the good thing of the rhce is the practical exam | 12:31 |
| johnm | I actually quite like RH for pushign out the RHCE certs. | 12:32 |
| johnm | At least it's a foundation for companies better accepting linux as a viable alternative. A way to source staff | 12:32 |
| \sh | the bad thing is, that matthew szulik is not as kewl as bob young was... | 12:33 |
| johnm | cool techie, or cool stylish? ;) | 12:33 |
| \sh | johnm: no...charisma | 12:34 |
| johnm | definately. | 12:34 |
| \sh | bob greeted any new employee of redhat personally...so after u started for rh, u had one week of brainwashing in raleigh | 12:35 |
| \sh | and the first thing was...hey, i'm bob and I'm glad to have u on board | 12:35 |
| johnm | Thats a good thing! An awful lot of RH staff relocate, so to be greeted like that is comforting. Reminds me a lot of AntiTrust though ;) | 12:36 |
| \sh | that reminds me, to look for the signed book of "under the brim" from bob...i have to take it with me to ubz for sivang | 12:36 |
| \sh | ah not brim ,) | 12:37 |
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| \sh | under the radar | 12:38 |
| johnm | \sh: good book. | 12:40 |
| \sh | yeah | 12:40 |
| chmj | damn, I missed fabbione | 12:51 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:48 |
| zul | bah...so i have to learn git now? ;) | 03:26 |
| BenC | yep yep | 03:29 |
| === BenC is setting up the git tree now | ||
| zul | wohoo..so i can actaully start working again ;) | 03:33 |
| zul | are we going to have a git tutorial? | 03:40 |
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| fabbione | morning guys | 03:46 |
| BenC | hey fabbione | 03:56 |
| fabbione | hey Benc | 03:56 |
| BenC | zul: search for "Git kernel hacker's guide" | 03:56 |
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| Yagisan | what kernel is planned for dapper ? .13 ? | 04:32 |
| BenC | .14 | 04:37 |
| Yagisan | BenC - thanks | 04:37 |
| zul | need...git...:) | 04:41 |
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| BenC | nothing there yet, but the tree is located at kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git | 05:21 |
| BenC | going to create the debian directory and start checking in stuff today (external drivers and other git tree pulls) | 05:22 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | Not quite ready to use, but new dapper kernel tree starting at rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git | Git guide: http://linux.yyz.us/git-howto.html | ||
| jbailey | Wow. I wonder how long until some write a module to pull from git to bzr so that youcan move back to bzr? =) | 05:30 |
| jbailey | someone writes. | 05:30 |
| jbailey | I'm clearly awake. =) | 05:30 |
| BenC | well, I have to finish a script that will convert git to bzr, so it wont be long :) | 05:30 |
| jbailey | *lol* | 05:31 |
| infinity | I guess this means I need to learn git. | 05:34 |
| infinity | It can't treat me any worse than baz has. | 05:34 |
| jbailey | git's slightly easier than bzzr. | 05:37 |
| jbailey | Unlike bzr, git has documentation. | 05:37 |
| jbailey | (In fairness, when I was learning bzr, it too had documentation. It just required a newer pull from source than I had by two days...) | 05:37 |
| dilinger | cogito also has command line completion | 05:43 |
| dilinger | cg-<tab> | 05:43 |
| dilinger | it was a little weird at first, but it's definitely grown on me vs bzr help and friends | 05:44 |
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| jbailey | dilinger: True. Although bzr comes with bash_completion bits. | 05:53 |
| jbailey | So it's not that big of a penalty | 05:54 |
| BenC | the main thing git will buy us is being able to pull in external trees more easily | 05:55 |
| jbailey | Yeah, certainly. | 05:55 |
| jbailey | Even the parisc folks have finally come around to using git. =) | 05:55 |
| BenC | if it wasn't for that, we really wouldn't have much of a reason to use it | 05:56 |
| dilinger | i'm not incredibly impressed w/ git performance | 05:56 |
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| dilinger | i need to give bzr 0.1* a test run on some kernel trees | 05:56 |
| jbailey | I haven't done much with the weave format stuff yet. | 05:57 |
| jbailey | BenC: When/how do you want wishlist items for the next kernel build? | 06:46 |
| zul | BenC: anyone can commit to the git tree? | 06:50 |
| BenC | jbailey: anytime | 06:52 |
| BenC | jbailey: any big items will be slated for the UBZ kernel agenda | 06:53 |
| BenC | general things like "include driver foo", just do a bug :) | 06:53 |
| zul | when is the meeting going to be?\ | 06:54 |
| BenC | zul: no, just like before, work from local tree, request pull when you have something I need to include | 06:54 |
| jbailey | BenC: Just a note that ext2 and cramfs can now be made modular on all arch's. I'll file a bug. | 06:54 |
| BenC | zul: not sure which day yet | 06:54 |
| zul | i hope it will be the last day since ill be tere | 06:54 |
| jbailey | zul: You can't get here sooner? | 06:55 |
| jbailey | zul: At UDU, usually Bofs had multiple sessions over multiple days | 06:55 |
| zul | nope working.. | 06:55 |
| jbailey | To give people think time. | 06:55 |
| zul | cool | 06:55 |
| jbailey | Bah. You're gov't. They can't fire you, can they? =) | 06:55 |
| zul | i was government...now im private again | 06:55 |
| jbailey | Well, there's still time to find a gov't job. =) | 06:56 |
| zul | hehe | 06:56 |
| zul | wha there is no git package? | 07:14 |
| infinity | cogito | 07:15 |
| zul | ah | 07:16 |
| lamont__ | jbailey: can be made modular on all architectures that support intramfs. fix that. kthxbye | 07:39 |
| jbailey | lamont__: Any architecture that doesn't support initramfs is fucked for > 2.6.12 anyway, so doesn't much matter. =) | 07:39 |
| jbailey | lamont__: I'm more actively considering getting that ia64 here, though. | 07:39 |
| lamont__ | ah, there is that.. guess we'll have to track that down... | 07:39 |
| jbailey | The baseboard heater across the room is clearly not enough for this room inthe winter. | 07:39 |
| === lamont__ likes that... | ||
| lamont__ | heh | 07:40 |
| jbailey | And the one behind the desk has too much risk of frying cables. | 07:40 |
| jbailey | lamont__: In all likelyhood, we'll get hppa done before ia64. | 07:41 |
| jbailey | Simply because I don't need to reboot the hppa to track those bugs, it's all userspace. | 07:41 |
| lamont__ | ah, coolness | 07:41 |
| jbailey | I'm going to need your help on ia64 to get it done soonish. | 07:41 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 07:41 |
| jbailey | Or I could ask bdale if he's got a box with remote reboot and console that I can use. | 07:41 |
| lamont__ | jbailey: ok. and I'll be happy to pester the nice kernel gurus here. | 07:41 |
| lamont__ | zx2000's shipped to the developers should allow that... | 07:42 |
| jbailey | lamont__: It's a simple enoughj problem. "Make get_byte work, kthxbye" | 07:42 |
| jbailey | The zx6000 I got definetly does. | 07:42 |
| jbailey | I just didn't have any facility for it where it's colo'd. | 07:42 |
| jbailey | And that colo is 6 hours drive from here. | 07:42 |
| BenC | this is starting to suck... | 07:43 |
| BenC | can't do the kernel work from here very well, since it's dialup, but doing the repo stuff from the DC is a pain given the firewall | 07:43 |
| jbailey | *lol* | 07:45 |
| jbailey | I remember when my net connection went down, sitting at the local starbucks equivalent on the wireless doing glibc builds. =) | 07:45 |
| BenC | hehe | 07:45 |
| BenC | I think I may try using my sparc at the colo | 07:45 |
| fabbione | BenC: yo dude.. | 07:47 |
| BenC | yo | 07:52 |
| fabbione | BenC: how is it going with git and stuff? | 07:55 |
| dilinger | jbailey: coffee shops smell :( | 08:02 |
| fabbione | hey dilinger | 08:02 |
| dilinger | hey | 08:02 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i am cleaning up sunfire | 08:02 |
| dilinger | ok | 08:02 |
| fabbione | so you can pack it and ship it :) | 08:02 |
| dilinger | ok | 08:02 |
| dilinger | well, that won't happen til nov | 08:02 |
| dilinger | aiui | 08:02 |
| fabbione | dilinger: it's running breezy.. but i guess you don't mind :P | 08:03 |
| dilinger | davem's going to korea | 08:03 |
| dilinger | heh, nope | 08:03 |
| fabbione | dilinger: yup.. | 08:03 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i am just taking down the buildd stuf | 08:03 |
| fabbione | stuff | 08:03 |
| === dilinger backports bzr to hoary | ||
| fabbione | so you can power it off | 08:03 |
| dilinger | fabbione: are we going to see a breezy sparc install iso? | 08:03 |
| === dilinger noticed the announcement and amd64/i386/ppc images, but no sparc | ||
| fabbione | dilinger: no, only netinstall | 08:03 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i did an announce about sparc/hppa/ia64 | 08:04 |
| dilinger | hm, i should update my cogito packages too | 08:04 |
| fabbione | the problem is that apt-get BUSERROR on everything that's not deb http:// or deb ftp:// | 08:04 |
| fabbione | so if you use file for cdrom it errors out | 08:04 |
| fabbione | and d-i dies | 08:04 |
| fabbione | unfortunatly we figured that a bit too late | 08:04 |
| dilinger | jbailey: then again, the dentist's office that i'm in now smells like doctor | 08:05 |
| dilinger | not much better :) | 08:05 |
| dilinger | fabbione: d'oh. can't that be fixed via update or something? | 08:06 |
| fabbione | dilinger: nope.. | 08:07 |
| fabbione | because that requires a d-i rebuild and a ISO republishing | 08:07 |
| fabbione | that's NO NO NO | 08:07 |
| fabbione | dilinger: we will fix it for dapper | 08:07 |
| fabbione | netinstall is a very good starting point for now | 08:07 |
| dilinger | ok | 08:07 |
| dilinger | yea | 08:07 |
| fabbione | not many sparcs have cd either | 08:07 |
| dilinger | figure sparc people should know how to netboot | 08:08 |
| fabbione | dilinger: you can kill sunfire | 08:09 |
| fabbione | i have done | 08:09 |
| fabbione | thanks | 08:09 |
| fabbione | a lot | 08:09 |
| dilinger | np | 08:09 |
| dilinger | i'll kill it when i get back home on monday or so | 08:09 |
| dilinger | i'm sure it'll crash before then :) | 08:10 |
| dilinger | mm, cute dental assistant | 08:10 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i doubt.. no load = no crash | 08:16 |
| fabbione | dilinger: does it have a LOM? if so i can power it off from here | 08:16 |
| fabbione | or does it sends you back to OBP on poweroff? | 08:16 |
| dilinger | fabbione: it does have LOM, but i've never played w/ it | 08:17 |
| fabbione | dilinger: that's ok with me.. iirc linux push the machine back to LOM on poweroff | 08:18 |
| fabbione | it does a real poweroff | 08:18 |
| === fabbione shuts it down | ||
| fabbione | done | 08:18 |
| fabbione | you can just ask your friend to unplug the power in the worst case | 08:19 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Sorry. I figured for the snapshots that anyone who'd care that badly could upgrade to breezy. | 08:19 |
| jbailey | dilinger: It should still work on sid/sarge/etc afaik | 08:19 |
| jbailey | etch | 08:20 |
| dilinger | right, we can't upgrade to breezy until we make sure openafs is stable on breezy's kernel | 08:20 |
| fabbione | ok guys | 08:20 |
| fabbione | have fun | 08:20 |
| fabbione | i am off till tomorrow | 08:20 |
| jbailey | Bah =) | 08:24 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Where's your sense of adventure? =) | 08:24 |
| dilinger | it died in my 37th reiserfs disk corruption | 08:25 |
| dilinger | by the 36th one, i was still doing ok; just a little shaken | 08:26 |
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| serrador | jbaile? | 08:28 |
| jbailey | serrador: nick highlights work best when you don't use partial names. =) | 08:28 |
| serrador | I miss typed | 08:30 |
| serrador | OK | 08:31 |
| serrador | I'm on channel now | 08:31 |
| serrador | jbailey | 08:32 |
| jbailey | yes? | 08:32 |
| serrador | How can I help you to debug the chain loader problem with grub and lilo? | 08:33 |
| jbailey | Bug#? | 08:34 |
| serrador | #15537 | 08:34 |
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| serrador | Hello? | 08:42 |
| jbailey | On the phone, just a sef. | 08:49 |
| serrado1 | ok | 08:49 |
| jbailey | Ah right, this bug. | 09:01 |
| serrado1 | ok | 09:01 |
| jbailey | The bug is a it confusing because someone else has added a bunch of stuff to it. | 09:01 |
| serrado1 | now I'm running a test system | 09:01 |
| jbailey | Are you also ona jfs root? | 09:01 |
| serrado1 | no | 09:02 |
| serrado1 | just plain ext3 | 09:02 |
| serrado1 | I use a test system running ubuntu | 09:02 |
| serrado1 | the others are with debian | 09:02 |
| serrado1 | I think the problem is with the way initrd is built, but my expertise with that software is not enough to figure where the problem is exactly. | 09:07 |
| jbailey | What was the install done from? | 09:09 |
| jbailey | (Like which breezy release)? | 09:10 |
| serrado1 | The install was done upgrading from hoary | 09:10 |
| serrado1 | all packages were updated except hoary's kernel | 09:11 |
| serrado1 | which i kept just to be safe | 09:11 |
| serrado1 | actually it is updated in at regular intervals | 09:12 |
| jbailey | Mm, no idea then. | 09:12 |
| jbailey | We don't support that combination at all, and I have no exposure to it. | 09:13 |
| jbailey | Why did you do everything but the kernel? | 09:13 |
| jbailey | glibc is far more dangerous and likely to break things. =) | 09:13 |
| serrado1 | I tested glibc before. I work in a derivative distribution called molinux, so I have some familyarity with the process | 09:14 |
| jbailey | The whole kernel boot sequence changed between hoary and breezy. | 09:15 |
| jbailey | So I can't really help you until you update to a breezy kernel. | 09:15 |
| jbailey | There are some known places where if you are using an older initrd-tools, for instance, your system will become unbootable | 09:16 |
| jbailey | This sounds like that problem. | 09:16 |
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| serrado1 | It is strange, because initrd tools are from breezy | 09:17 |
| serrado1 | I assume that then similar configurations will fail an upgrade to breezy when released | 09:18 |
| serrado1 | we have arround 10000 desktops deployed which can fail, that could be a big headache | 09:19 |
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| serrador_ubuntu | Package: initrd-tools | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | Versions: | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | 0.1.78ubuntu2(/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status) | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | Reverse Depends: | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | linux-image-2.6.10-5-386,initrd-tools 0.1.75ubuntu2 | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | initrd-netboot-tools,initrd-tools | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | bootcd-mkinitrd,initrd-tools | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | Dependencies: | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | 0.1.78ubuntu2 - coreutils (16 (null)) fileutils (18 4.1.9) stat (2 3.0) cpio (0 (null)) cramfsprogs (2 1.1-4) dash (0 (null)) util-linux (2 2.11b-3) lsb-base (2 1.3-9ubuntu3) | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | Provides: | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | 0.1.78ubuntu2 - | 09:23 |
| serrador_ubuntu | Reverse Provides: | 09:23 |
| jbailey | It's posible it will work, it's possible it will fail. | 09:29 |
| jbailey | IT's not a supported configuration at all. | 09:29 |
| jbailey | initrd-tools is in universe, so if it's broken in any way, it's not going to get fixes. | 09:30 |
| jbailey | I still don't understand why you'd do an upgrade of everything except the kernel? | 09:30 |
| jbailey | It's really not the most likely thing to break. | 09:30 |
| serrado1 | I have both kernels installed, the old hoary and the new breezy | 09:32 |
| BenC | you need to boot the breezy kernel | 09:32 |
| BenC | the only thing we can really guarantee with older kernels is that for upgrade they will run, but you generally want to reboot wit the newer kernel | 09:34 |
| serrado1 | I want to boot with it, but the thing I'm trying to explain is that it fails to boot | 09:35 |
| BenC | the new kernel fails to boot? | 09:35 |
| serrado1 | and if I want to do anthing in ubuntu I have to use the older hoary kernel. | 09:36 |
| serrado1 | yes | 09:36 |
| serrado1 | breezy kernel fails to boot | 09:36 |
| BenC | so the old kernel works on breezy after upgrade, but ht ebreezy kernel doesn't? | 09:36 |
| BenC | what doesn't work with the newer kernel? | 09:36 |
| jbailey | serrado1: You said the bug was with the older kernel... | 09:37 |
| serrado1 | jbailey: probably I did not understand | 09:38 |
| serrado1 | BenC: The kernel stops booting and drops me a busybox shell | 09:39 |
| serrado1 | no init sequence is started | 09:39 |
| BenC | did you try using initramfs and doing "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`"? | 09:39 |
| BenC | well, init is started if busybox starts, so it isn't a kernel issue | 09:40 |
| jbailey | serrado1: From that shell, what happens if you type fstype </dev/FOO | 09:40 |
| jbailey | Where /dev/FOO is your root device | 09:40 |
| serrado1 | im booting it now | 09:41 |
| serrado1 | ( phone) | 09:45 |
| serrado1 | FSTYPE=ext3 | 09:47 |
| serrado1 | FSSIZE=393217 | 09:47 |
| BenC | cat /proc/mounts | 09:48 |
| serrado1 | no such file or directory | 09:48 |
| BenC | what's the last message before you get hte busybox shell? | 09:57 |
| serrado1 | target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init | 09:58 |
| serrado1 | The fist error I can see is: | 09:59 |
| serrado1 | FATAL: Module unknown not found | 09:59 |
| serrado1 | just before trying swsuspend | 09:59 |
| serrado1 | [4294679.528000] swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature? | 10:00 |
| serrado1 | Done. | 10:01 |
| serrado1 | in the following messages it is trying to mount root devices: | 10:01 |
| serrado1 | but fails with a " no such device" | 10:02 |
| jbailey | What's the device? | 10:34 |
| jbailey | serrado1: /win 6 | 10:36 |
| jbailey | Feh | 10:36 |
| serrado1 | i suppose it tries to mount /dev/hdb1 | 10:51 |
| BenC | I've only seen that error on jfs and xfs installs | 10:51 |
| serrado1 | Is it resolved for those filesystems? | 10:55 |
| serrado1 | on the initrd, after executing /scripts/local-top | 11:00 |
| serrado1 | there is logged a failure trying to acces /dev/cdrom | 11:00 |
| serrado1 | does initrd use udev? | 11:01 |
| BenC | have you tried switching to initramfs | 11:03 |
| BenC | ? | 11:03 |
| serrado1 | Default initrd uses initramfs? | 11:04 |
| serrado1 | I think I'm using initramfs on this kernel initrd.img | 11:05 |
| serrado1 | but' im not sure | 11:05 |
| serrado1 | where is the mountroot command invoked by init? | 11:11 |
| serrado1 | one question more | 11:13 |
| serrado1 | inside modules directory, there are not any kernel module | 11:13 |
| BenC | on your rootfs, or in the initrd? | 11:13 |
| serrado1 | on initrd | 11:14 |
| BenC | dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 (or whatever your kernel image name is on this machine) | 11:14 |
| serrado1 | same error | 11:19 |
| serrado1 | could you loopback mount your initrd.img and tell me what is inside modules, please? | 11:21 |
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| BenC | serrado1: why not just check your hoary initrd | 11:57 |
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