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carthikcafuego_, i am excited about having someone I love switch to ubuntu12:00
cafuego_Just big enough to fit a fiberoptic cable though12:00
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cafuego_carthik: I'd glag you're excited, but I am amready married ;-)12:00
sockpuppe1hello cafuego12:00
carthikcafuego_, you are ahead in everything, dammit!12:01
cafuego_carthik: spacetime is conspiring against you!12:01
cafuego_sockpuppe1: mornin'!12:01
trans_errmustard5: still no go12:01
trans_err:/12:01
palewolfhi all, looking for help using kalarm in ubuntu breezy. for some reason, the system tray option is greyed out and won't show up on the panel. any reason/ideas?12:01
miksuhey what's up with your dsl-companies (something for a break with all this waiting) i got a free dsl modem + dvd player when i opened up a dna gsm and dna adsl .. is it as good in your homeland?12:01
mustard5trans_err, hmmm....12:01
sockpuppe1morning?! its 6 pm here!12:01
carthikDoes anyone have a good "push" ssh+rsync backup script they want to share with a newbie?12:02
carthikIf not, I ill have to write my own... that is copy+paste creatively...12:02
mustard5I know I had trouble when I been running totem or audacity just prior to running xawtv.....12:02
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thechitowncubsHow can i reset my firefox/gnome fonts back to default?12:02
mustard5without access to sound it would show no picture12:02
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carthikthechitowncubs, default is "Sans" change application font in system -> preferences -> fonts12:03
mustard5but yours isnt picking up channels on the scan whic is a problem12:03
trans_errmustard5: im going to try it in windows later and make sure it isnt a hardware issue12:03
BlankBcarthik: I have one...just a minute.12:03
thechitowncubsAny idea about firefox?12:03
trans_errmustard5: thanks for all the help12:03
Slaj_Rquestion:  Ever since my last update (running Breezy beta on an HP pavilion), sometimes my input freaks out; for example, my last text entry will suddently paste itself or a duplicate of whatever window I'm working in will open.  Anyone else see this behaviour lately?12:03
mustard5ok trans_err , your very close to having it working12:03
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carthikBlankB carthik@gmail.com if you please :)12:03
sockpuppe1slaj_r what version of ubuntu u using?12:04
mustard5I have fiddled with xawtv for months now with hoary and now breezy...in breezy it has worked well12:04
Slaj_Rlatest.12:04
Slaj_RI don't have a number handy12:04
sockpuppe1well im upgrading to the lattest12:04
sockpuppe1and I havve hp12:04
Slaj_Rwhat's a quick way to find that?12:05
cpalmais there any document about hardening ubuntu specifically?12:05
mustard5cpalma, I believe there is12:05
sockpuppe1uname -r will tell you ubuntu kernel version12:05
mustard5on the forums I have read a thread12:05
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cpalmamustard5: oh cool, i'll check that, thanks12:05
Dreamglidercan anyone help me with this -> http://pastebin.com/39168512:05
mustard5might have been in the security forum12:05
sockpuppe1if there is2-6-1012:05
sockpuppe1you have hoary12:06
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sockpuppe1if its 2-6-12 its breezy12:06
Slaj_R2.6.1212:06
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sockpuppe1breezy it is!12:06
sockpuppe1what hp do you have?12:06
Slaj_RPavilion ze4900 laptop.12:07
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miksuCOOL my dsl speed is doubled in november..2 MEG =)12:07
sockpuppe1cant help ypu there i have their desktops12:07
QMarioHello Seveas and ompaul!!! :)12:07
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Slaj_RI'll wait and see if it's a /dev/hands problem :)12:07
mustard5Dreamglider, you don't have build-essential installed?12:07
sockpuppe1lol12:07
QMarioWhat kind of DSL do you have miksu?12:07
jhonnyhow can i change monitor vertical frenquencies manually? i'm on breezy, using nvidia-glx12:08
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mustard5your missing a compiler it seems, Dreamglider12:08
QMario1 more day until Breezy is officially released!!! :-D12:08
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Dreamglidermustard5, what need i install12:08
sockpuppe1qmario im upgrading as we speak12:08
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kemikDreamglider:  build-essential12:08
mustard5you on hoary Dreamglider ?12:08
miksuqmario what do you mean? just a standard phoneline+dsl modem+wlan12:08
QMarioMiksu, I meant ADSL?12:09
mustard5build essential , Dreamglider12:09
mustard5build-essential , Dreamglider12:09
Dreamglideri m on breezy12:09
miksuqmario still dont understand12:09
brodmannhey, i'm trying to set up dual monitors on my ati card, where can i find the correct code to change in xorg?12:09
mustard5ah ok12:09
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mustard5I haven't seen a build essential in breezy yet :D12:09
mustard5hehe12:09
QMarioMiksu, ADSL is faster than normal DSL.12:09
mustard5I assume its there somewhere :D12:09
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Dreamgliderapt-get install build-essential ?12:09
mustard5yes12:09
QMarioIt is similar to using cable/Road Runner.12:09
sockpuppe1road runner12:10
sockpuppe1?!12:10
QMarioMiksu, what provider are you with?12:10
miksuqmario if you mean my subscriber it's a finnish company called dna12:10
sockpuppe1I hear they suck12:10
QMarioMiksu, no wonder.12:10
QMarioMost likely ADSL.12:10
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QMarioSockpuppe1, no. 4.7-5Mbps. :)12:10
tony_the_cable_gWe just went to 8mb12:10
mustard5any luck, Dreamglider ?12:10
sockpuppe1whoa12:11
QMarioHow?12:11
sockpuppe1did you specifically request that speed?12:11
tony_the_cable_gMe?12:11
QMarioYes.12:11
sockpuppe1nah12:11
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sockpuppe1qmario12:11
sockpuppe1lol12:11
QMarioSockpuppe1, yes.12:11
jvaiyoyo uall.. wassup12:11
sockpuppe1i got you12:11
tony_the_cable_gComcast Cable....hence the name...12:11
QMarioSockpuppe1, no.12:11
QMario$29.95 per month for 6 months.12:11
Dreamglidermustard5, i am asked to insert the ubuntu CD but my cd drive is dead12:11
Kerrwhat version of xorg comes with hoary?12:12
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mustard5hmmm..thats a complication I wasnt expecting :D12:12
tony_the_cable_g0$ for life....12:12
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Dreamglidermustard5, cant i tell ubuntu to take whatever it needs from the net ?12:12
miksudreamglidr check out your power cable and dma line .. the most common solution12:12
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Dreamglidermiksu, it s DEAD12:12
Dreamglider104 %, no power nor ide twist will fix it trust me :)12:13
mustard5I wonder what happens if you comment out the CD in your sources.list12:13
miksudreamglider yeah .. idiot me12:13
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LyssieI need to force the OS to redetect my network hardware... anybody know the command line command?12:14
Dreamgliderwhere is the sources.list located12:14
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mustard5in /etc/12:14
ednz/etc/apt/sources.list12:14
carthikDreamglider, /etc/apt/sources/list12:14
carthikdoh12:14
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mustard5I was close :D12:14
DShepherdDreamglider: /etc/apt/source.list12:14
Dalkuscan anyone tell me what I need to do/install to compile the program that gives me these erros when I try to 'make'? http://pastebin.com/39168812:14
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sockpuppe1im updating now because the way things are lopoking the servers will be swamped with requests for breezy tomorrow12:14
mustard5Dalkus, looking at it now...12:15
Dalkusthanks12:15
El_Chesockpuppe1: use a mirror tomorrow12:15
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concept10How do I disable the totem plugin in firefox?12:15
tony_the_cable_gOfficial release is tomorrow?12:15
Christophe971yo the develers12:15
icewthm.. will breezy be released 00:00 UTC? just wondering if i should go to sleep or wait for it ;)12:15
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mustard5I have no idea Dalkus12:15
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carthikLyssie, what do you mean by redetect? could you be more specific, i have played with network interfaces for sometime now12:16
Dalkusmustard5, thanks anyway12:16
Christophe971What about the "ubuntu-multimedia" and other metametapackages ?12:16
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carthikconcept10, easiest way would be to set the "Settings" - > downloads -> open file type with " to not open with the plugin you have complaints about12:16
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miksuthe power of linux .. my wlan connection is much more stable than in xp12:17
ednzwlan in xp sucks12:17
LyssieCarthik: new Ubuntu install on a laptop - without an integrated NIC. So, I had to yank out the 10/100 Ethernet PCMCIA card and put in the Linksys wireless card... and I'm not sure how autodetect works. Basically, the system doesn't see the card.12:17
BoDSWATicewt, you and me both12:17
LyssieHowever, the card is supported.12:17
blueyedDo I have to enable AGP for nvidia explicitly (using the nvidia driver)? Because I have no /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status file here.12:18
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DShepherdwhen will breezy be out12:18
concept10someone please help me disable this totem plugin in firefox...I want mplayer to handle all of these12:18
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NoUseDShepherd tomorrow12:18
BoDSWATicewt, why are you so fondly awaiting breezy?12:19
NoUseDShepherd 13th12:19
TheVoxblueyed: IIRC, the default behaviour of the nvidia driver now is to use agpart instead of nvagp when it finds it12:19
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Kerrdoes anyone know how to get xorg+via unichrome onboard graphics to work?12:19
Christophe971What about the "ubuntu-multimedia" and other metametapackages ?12:19
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nix4me1 hour 40 minutes till its released?12:20
basvghmm, I just did a fresh install of breezy (from cd) ... and get the old `greeter` instead of the nice new one that I got when I updated from haory to breezy... does anyone know how to get the newer one?12:20
Christophe971SpecialUBuntuDevelsRequest12:20
blueyedTheVox: on http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Ubuntu it says that Driver: AGPART is used in " cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status"12:20
icewtBoDSWAT, because i have a pretty slow internet connection - it would be nice to get it during the night12:20
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nnonixbasvg: dist-upgrade didn't work for you?12:20
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basvgnnonix: nah, some things broke12:21
The_Voxblueyed: mmm....I have said file and it's using agpart, so...I have no clue why you don't have it12:21
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basvgnnonix: almost back in business though12:21
basvgdo you know how to get that nice greeter?12:21
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icewtBoDSWAT, and i'm anyway going to wipe my hard drives when breezy is out, and do a clean install12:21
The_Voxbasvg: just update to the latest breezy updates12:21
jvaii ordered cd's from ubuntu like... 2 months ago... guess the yr gonna make me wait until aftr the 13.. lmao..12:22
dobwanare we there yet?12:22
basvgThe_Vox: I did!12:22
mustard5hehe dobwan12:22
rem_I had hoary cd's about 2 months after release ..12:22
nnonixbasvg: "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" should get you all the new packages. I'm not sure what you mean by the "nice greeter".12:22
rem_i guess i had them at least .. and had downloaded them anyway ..12:22
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QMarioHow do I upgrade to GNOME 2.12?12:23
basvgnnonix: well, the one I have now is the same as in hoary... the one I got when I did the hoary/breezy update looks different and has more options12:23
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_native_do a dist upgrade12:23
_native_man apt-get12:23
rem_whait 1-2 days and do a dist-upgrade ..ull have gnomde 2.1212:23
benkong2anyone completed an ubuntu install on a G4 mac os x 10.4?12:23
miksumoments of horror yeasterday .. my directional antenna got wacked up , but i just whacked that with my screwdriver and voila - back in business12:24
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basvgnnonix: I installed from the breezy cd, copied the sources.list that I saved to /etc, did an apt-get update and dist-upgrade and waited for an hour...12:24
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sayanbreeeeeeeeezy12:25
miksuWOW ! OUT???!12:25
sayanno :(12:25
_native_feel that cool breez12:25
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basvganother difference is that my laptop (the one I updated) gets a nice graphical boot.... the new breezy install doesn't12:26
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_native_no need to wait just upgrade12:26
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miksui got a poster of some barbara kraft's painting..it says feel the breeze :)12:26
DShepherdwhen will breezy be out?12:26
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annexDShepherd: official date was set for the 13th12:27
_native_you can dist-upgrade now if you like12:27
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blueyed"when it's ready".. :P12:27
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DShepherdso that about 12 tonight?12:27
antixit's past 12 :)12:27
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nnonixbasvg: open a term and run "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade", then reboot and see if that helps.12:27
SOMNIVM`zzZzIt depends on where you live12:27
SOMNIVM`zzZz;)12:27
annexDShepherd: well that depends on the time zone you live in and the time zone it's released using12:27
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SOMNIVM`zzZzIt's 0:27 here12:28
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gelberg!libdvdcss12:28
ubotuNo idea, gelberg12:28
DShepherdannex: yeah I know. I'm in Jamaica12:28
gelberghi all, is libdvdcss in universe?12:28
basvgno upgrades... so guess booting won't help either12:28
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annexgroovy12:28
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nnonixbasvg: I would guess the same12:29
antixsouth african time is UTC/GMT +2 hours12:29
popeyi am scared to reboot now12:29
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_native_my ERP, MRP, CRM system is running well on top of ubuntu12:29
mustard5tell gelberg about restrictedformats12:29
popey_native_: which one?12:29
mustard5!tell gelberg about restrictedformats12:29
popeynot SAP :D12:29
spoilerheadhello, it seems, that the upgrade to breezy killd my sound (snd_intel8x0) worked fine in hoary, no lifesign in breezy, any ideas?12:29
basvgnnonix: which `greeter app` (it is actually called that way in gdm.conf) do you have, the old one or the new one?12:29
_native_ofbiz.org12:30
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popeynot seen that, thanks _native_12:30
mustard5gelberg, no12:30
mustard5you have to download it from outside the official repos12:30
_native_Im a dev for it. its top class stuff many Big name companies are using it with great success.12:30
popeyexcellent, always good to hear12:31
miksuso the release is UTC 00:00 would that mean that helsinki (+2:00) get's it at 2 am12:31
Slaj_RCan someone refer me to a good tutorial on how to move quick-launch icons to the apps menu?  Or is it even possible?12:31
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nnonixbasvg: basvg, if you installed from a breezy cd, why did you do a dist-upgrade? Did you mean you installed from a hoary CD??12:31
athlonright now I am in suse 10. Does chrooting to ubuntu partition and do apt dist-upgrade from there anymore dangerous than booting to ubuntu and upgrading from there ?12:31
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gelbergmustard5, thanks. is it generally advisable to have the marillat repository in sources.list, or should i grab the .debs?12:31
mustard5Slaj_R, you on hoary or breezy?12:31
Slaj_Rbreezy12:32
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guest123gelberg, libdvdcss2 is in some repo...im looking right at it now12:32
sorush20how can I creat flash12:32
basvgnnonix: no, it's a mistake that I make more often *pout* ..12:32
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sorush20how can I create flash..12:32
mustard5grab the .debs and then comment out the marillat entry from your sources list12:32
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basvgnnonix: but that's can't make this big a difference I s'ppose12:32
Slaj_Rmustard5: breezy12:33
_native_libdvdcss is available from http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/12:33
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mustard5gelberg, follow the DVD instructions in the wiki and you should be ok12:33
_native_or universe12:33
mustard5their is a menu editor in breezy Slaj_R12:33
_native_repos12:33
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nnonixbasvg: so ... was it a breezy or hoary CD?12:34
gelbergmustard5, thanks.12:34
mustard5Applications menu editor in System Tools12:34
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thewayofzendoes anyone have the deb for azureus that used to be in the repos12:35
Slaj_Rmustard5:  Whoops, I knew about that, but I didn't see the "new entry" button.12:35
mustard5thats ok Slaj_R :)12:35
thewayofzen(the sourceforge tar.gz is NOT working properly at all)12:35
basvgnnonix: it was a breezy cd12:36
Slaj_RI think PC World's review set me up for failure; they said there is no start menu editor.12:36
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icewtthewayofzen, hm.. i'm using the "Linux GTK" version from Azureus website and it works just fine12:37
mustard5:)12:37
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_native_!seen procrastination_nation12:37
ubotu_native_: i haven't seen 'procrastination_nation'12:37
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frank_bcan anyone tell me how to install aMule 2.0.3 in hoary?12:38
Bergcubeclear12:38
TiMiDofrank_b: tar.gz deb?12:38
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bobbydhi12:38
TiMiDo!info amule12:38
ubotuamule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB12:38
ubunoobfrank_b, is have you tried synaptic?12:38
nnonixbasvg: are you using the sources.list that was created by the installation or one that you had saved?12:38
TiMiDodo sudo apt-get install amule12:38
frank_bubunoob, it install version 2.0.012:39
TiMiDohi bobbyd12:39
bobbydcan anyone suggest a good (simple) guid to setting up spamassassin with postfix under ubuntu?12:39
thewayofzenicewt,  i installed it as per the ubuntu forums.. and it starts up fine.  i hve a fat32 media drive that i also checked the appropriate box in the config to support.  i use it on oink.me.uk and it keeps telling me to find another supported client.  i asked if azureus is no longer supported and they said its still allowed12:39
TiMiDobobbyd: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/12:39
thewayofzenicewt, i checked it on tvtorrents and a few other sites just to test and none will connect12:39
js_is it tomorrow that breezy will be released?12:39
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bobbydTiMiDo, thanks12:39
TiMiDonp12:39
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TiMiDojs_: yes it is12:39
thewayofzenicewt, and yes port forwarding on my router is configged and tests ok as per azureus12:39
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thewayofzenthe old deb from the repos worked FLAWLESS12:39
basvgnnonix: the one that I saved (which is almost the same).. shall I paste it to you privately ?12:40
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TiMiDonice thewayofzen12:40
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nnonixbasvg: yes12:40
hablandocontigoHello, I get "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" when trying to access any floppy? What could be the problem?12:40
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frank_bnevermind... I'm tired right now...12:40
frank_bthanks anyway12:40
TiMiDohablandocontigo: did you do sudo adduser $USER floppy?12:40
TiMiDotry mounting the device also12:40
popeywell, I have just upgraded to breezy and everything "Just Works (tm)" thanks everyone (for no help required) :D12:40
yojimbo-sanTiMiDo: surely addgroup $USER floppy?12:40
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TiMiDowell12:41
TiMiDopopey: go here http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/12:41
icewtthewayofzen, strange. i've just unpacked the *.tar.bz2-package and ran the "azureus" script in the folder. i haven't even done port forwarding, and i have a firewall. works anyway. can't really say what could cause your kind of behaviour..12:41
TiMiDothat's a real good breezy doc12:41
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popeyjust one thing.. lots of unnamed folders on my desktop now where i keep right clicking and expecting to start a terminal :D :D12:41
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bobbydTiMiDo, that doesn't seem to mention spamassassin...12:41
TiMiDopopey: ok?12:41
TiMiDogoogle.com/linux spamassassin12:41
hablandocontigoTiMiDo: I am already a member of the group floppy12:42
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TiMiDohablandocontigo: did you mount the device?12:42
TiMiDomount -t /dev/floppy12:42
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thewayofzenicewt, thanks for trying mate.. ill keep scouring google for the .deb i guess12:42
hablandocontigoTiMiDo: still prompted same error12:42
TiMiDobla12:43
TiMiDohold up12:43
bobbydTiMiDo, I'm perfectly capable of finding general guides to doing it, i wanted something that was ubuntu specific.12:43
icewtthewayofzen, i don't believe it would make a difference if azureus is running fine12:43
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frickelhey how I eneable the user-list in x-chat? i can't find...12:44
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thewayofzenicewt, are u running breezy?12:44
icewtthewayofzen, there shouldn't be anything different in the deb, except that it's installed in different place12:44
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icewtthewayofzen, no12:44
mustard5frickel, its hidden12:44
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tuxedo_kamenhi everyone12:44
frickelsince when?12:44
thewayofzenicewt, might be whats up then.. cause i am12:44
mustard5frickel, move your mouse to the right hand side until you find the drag point12:44
icewtthewayofzen, but you have java installed?12:44
thewayofzenwould be interesting to have the deb to verify12:44
thewayofzenicewt, yessir12:44
thewayofzenas per uboto's instructions12:45
miksuso i have just dis12:45
mustard5then drag the user window open12:45
miksusorry12:45
tuxedo_kamentoday I come here with a strange question...12:45
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icewt!java12:45
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ubotuit has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java12:45
frickelmustard5: it only enlarges the window12:45
thewayofzenicewt, azureus starts it just will not allow download.. i get errors or worse i get messages from the torrent site warning meto switch my client12:45
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thewayofzengnome torrent works fine.. azureus.. different story12:45
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icewtthewayofzen, have you tried to change the port?12:45
yojimbo-sanhi tuxedo_kamen. What's up?12:45
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frickelmustard5: ahh, there it has hidden...thx12:46
ubunoobhey guys, simple question.. how do i switch between display managers if I have multiple installed.. i have gnome kde and xfce4 installed right now.12:46
mustard5np frickel :)12:46
eyequeuefrickel:  there is a right-window-side drag point, but just left of that there is another drag point, drag that toward the center12:46
mustard5I was lost too thats how I know :D12:46
tuxedo_kamenI need a program that refreshes a certain webpage every X minutes, what do you recommend me?12:46
thirsoubunoob: "Sessions"12:46
psusiI'm messing around with a door game on a BBS that uses ANSI graphics and it doesn't seem to show up right... this is with telnet in a terminal window... any ideas why?12:46
yojimbo-sanubunoob: log in as a new session?12:46
thewayofzenicewt, have indeed.  ive used azureus for over a year on windows.. and for the last month on ubuntu.. its only recently since i reinstalled with breezy that i can no longer use it12:46
icewtthewayofzen, some torrent sites wont allow the default bittorrent port(s), because some ISPs cap their download/upload rates12:46
icewtthewayofzen, ah, ok12:46
frickeleyequeue: thx, I already found it...12:46
thewayofzenicewt, i guess im doomed to gnome bittorrent.12:46
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ubunoobthx, will try that12:47
eyequeuefrickel:  i type slowly12:47
Slaj_RQuestion: I just tried playing an mp3 w/ Totem, and it says no decoders were found.  How do I find/install the necessary plugins?12:47
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mustard5!tell Slaj_R about restrictedformats12:47
yojimbo-santuxedo_kamen: you can ask Firefox to do things from the command line ... see http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html12:47
frickeleyequeue: no problem12:47
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yojimbo-santuxedo_kamen: you could then get a cron task to ask the currently-running firefox to reload the page every few minutes ...12:48
miksuso 10 minutes then?12:48
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icewtthewayofzen, i'm going to install breezy myself as soon as it comes out, pity i can't try azureus on it now12:48
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tuxedo_kamen:|12:49
thewayofzenicewt, its all good. ill wait and see if its something i did or the RC12:49
Nomad_Hello guys12:49
tuxedo_kamenisn't that too hard for a newbie such as myself?12:49
yojimbo-santuxedo_kamen: I don't know, but it's something that will work in "The Unix Way" :-)12:50
tuxedo_kamenok, i'll be right back, switching OS...12:50
thewayofzenicewt, ive checked the forums and noone is griping so im guessing its something ive done12:50
Slaj_Rwell, that's new...12:50
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gmjonkerHi all. Does anyone know why I get a "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" when I'm doing apt-get update? This is the output it gives: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/302712:50
Slaj_Rdidn't know mp3's were restricted12:50
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icewtthewayofzen, ok12:50
eyequeueis anyone else finding thunderbird uninstallable in breezy lately?12:50
gmjonkereyequeue: i installed it a week ago, was fine.12:51
yojimbo-sanSlaj_R: mp3 is a patented technology, and you are supposed to purchase a license before writing a decoder for it ...12:51
eyequeuemozilla-thunderbird depends on libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel-4) (and others)12:51
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crimsuneyequeue: um...12:51
eyequeuegmjonker:  what version libpng12-0 do you have?12:51
crimsun1.2.8rel-1ubuntu3 is in Breezy12:51
gmjonkereyequeue: tell me how to find out12:52
eyequeuecrimsun:  let me get the other two dependencies up too, just a sec12:52
mustard5Slaj_R, have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?12:52
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Slaj_RSo the Ubuntu project specifically chose to leave it out?  I'm confused; other distros keep it in.12:52
Slaj_Rmustard5: Nope.12:52
mustard5that might fix it12:52
crimsunSlaj_R: huh? No, we punted certain mp3-supporting packages to universe or multiverse.12:52
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yojimbo-sanand neither universe nor multiverse are enabled by default ...12:53
andreas_hi guys12:53
andreas_you know any cool dropdown consoles for ubuntu?12:53
andreas_seems yeahconsole isn't in the repos12:53
crimsunSlaj_R: keep in mind xine-lib and xmms are still in main12:53
eyequeuecrimsun:  libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel-4) and libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9) and libxrender1 (>> 0.9.0-1)12:53
crimsun(same for libmad0)12:54
psusianyone know why ANSI graphics don't show up right in telnet?12:54
mustard5Slaj_R, xmms seems to play mp3 no problem...totem takes some fiddling12:54
Slaj_Rthat is greek to me12:54
gmjonkereyequeue: i got 1.2.8rel-1ubuntu312:54
Nomad_Can someone help me with setting up users in a samba server?12:54
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crimsuneyequeue: you've got Debian unstable somewhere in your sources12:54
eyequeuegmjonker:  dpkg -l libpng12-0 | tail -112:54
mustard5Slaj_R,  :)  you get used to it12:54
yojimbo-sanSlaj_R: look for the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki12:55
eyequeuecrimsun:  thanks, i wasn't aware (nor can i imagine how) but i'll poke at sources.lisy12:55
Slaj_RI'm googling now though, so thanks thus far.12:55
crimsunSlaj_R: what I listed are packages that are used in decoding mp3s.12:55
yojimbo-sanit will tell you how to get MP3 support and other interesting things that seem to be missing12:55
occycrimsun, is breezy out yet?12:55
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occyhehe12:55
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occysorry, couldn't resist.  again.12:55
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crimsun:)12:55
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gmjonkerDoes anyone know how to solve the "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format"-error I get after running apt-get update?12:56
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Nomad_So do we just wait for a tech to message us?12:56
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crimsungmjonker: are you dist-upgrading from Warty?12:57
eyequeuecrimsun:  thanks!  this was there to pull in sunbird.deb #deb http://people.debian.org/~asac/experimental ./12:57
Trashcanubotu: tell Nomad_ about samba12:57
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basvgone more question before going to bed12:58
basvgwhen I click system => logout, nothing happens12:58
basvghow do I fix that?12:58
eyequeueghjtypically i rerun apt-get update.  if that doesn't help, i change to another mirror for a day.  which mirror are you using?12:58
flagfrancahello all12:58
gmjonkercrimsun: i'm updating from breezy to breezy i guess. i'm using the example sources.lst from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3027.12:58
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michaelbasvg, I had the same problem today, I don't know how to solve it12:58
eyequeuegmjonker:  ^^12:59
flagfrancawhere I can find some XVid and DiVx codecs for Ubuntu and how I install them?12:59
basvgmichael: ah, it just takes a *very* long time for the pop-up to show up :(12:59
Grant_is breezy gonna be released at 00:00 ?12:59
crimsunGrant_: no.12:59
Grant_crimsun: aww :( how come12:59
crimsunGrant_: "because."12:59
eyequeuegmjonker:  if there's a problem on one of the mirrors i think they want to know right about now :)12:59
Grant_crimsun: ummmm because ?12:59
yojimbo-san00:01 perhaps?01:00
Grant_hah :D01:00
crimsunGrant_: seriously, though, it will be released on the 13th sometime. When precisely is dictated by how all the core developers feel.01:00
miksu5:10 ? =)01:00
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Grant_crimsun: ah ok cool :)01:00
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crimsungmjonker: try another mirror; I presume archive.u.c is extremely loaded due to rsyncs, etc.01:01
eyequeuemaybe someone will update this page? :) http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/501:01
gmjonkereyequeue, crimsun: i'm quite new to linux, so i dont know what's normal and what not. But i get lots of different errors on different mirrors. apt-get isn't running smoothly here at all...01:01
crimsungmjonker: that sounds like an ISP issue, like a proxy...01:01
crimsunmaybe a really shoddy dsl "router" or cable "modem"?01:02
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miksudo you know of a good soft for listening to shoutcast radio01:02
starscallingyay ubuntu in for 3 days now and working great!01:02
starscallingshoutcast miksu ?01:02
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starscallingi believe xmms can handle that quite nicely01:02
gmjonkercrimsun: nope... all the rest of internet is doing great here :)01:02
starscallinglet me see again...01:03
crimsunmiksu: virtually anything that handles mp3s should.01:03
miksucrimson thank you.01:03
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crimsungmjonker: that doesn't mean you don't have a proxy issue. Then again, see what I said regarding trying another mirror.01:03
TylerDurdenwhere can i find the nvidia drivers v. 6629?01:03
Trashcanso tyler, get rooted yet?01:03
TylerDurdeni need nvidia-kernel-common and  nvidia-kernel-source01:03
mustard5TylerDurden, at the nvidia site?01:03
TylerDurdenthey dont have both i think01:04
Nomad_Thank you guys I'll try that and if no worky Ill come back01:04
BlueMatAnyone be able to help out with Internet connection sharing ubuntu?01:04
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starscallingthey recommend xmms but hey whatever floats your goat :)01:04
ficusplanetBlueMat, Install firestarter01:04
ficusplanetBlueMat, It will walk you through it.01:04
starscallingo.O01:04
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starscallingficusplanet:: i was looking at firestarter...01:05
BlueMatficusplanet,  Why would I insta a firewall for ICS?01:05
starscallingi happened to have installed that last night.01:05
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gmjonkercrimsun: ok thanks anyways...01:05
TylerDurdenso anyone know where i can find them?01:05
starscallingbut i didnt see exactly how to port. would you know of a good link for a porting config file?01:05
ficusplanetBlueMat, Firestarter is a frontend for iptables (linux's firewall/ip routing stuff).  It is what would redirect your requests for ICS.01:05
psusihow do I install pcf fonts in ububtu?  /etc/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts does not exist01:06
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BlueMatficusplanet, and how does it walk me through it?01:06
ficusplanetBlueMat, When you start it the first time there is a wizard that will ask you a few questions and you should be good to go.01:06
BlueMatficusplanet, I have it installed..01:07
BlueMatfrom before01:07
ficusplanetOK.  Then, try going to the preferences and adjust the connection sharing stuff to your liking.01:07
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eyequeueBlueMat:  Firewall > Run Wizard01:07
BlueMatDo you HAVE  to put a internet connection shared box on a different subnet does anyone know?01:08
concept10cant play quicktime and im PISSED01:08
eyequeueBlueMat:  "internet connection shared" ?01:08
Dr_Willisconcept10,  try 'vlc'01:08
yojimbo-sanBlueMat: no, you don't *have* to, but it's much easier to do it that way01:08
yojimbo-sanYou can do pretty much anything with iptables, but the rules get very complex very quickly01:09
concept10Dr_Willis, doesnt work.01:09
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Dr_Willisconcept10,  bummer.  - worked very well for me on most ev3yrthing i toss at it01:09
concept10Dr_Willis, yeah, until the latest breezy update01:09
BlueMatyojimbo-san, what are the advantages of doing that?01:09
Dr_Willisconcept10,  heh - aint noticed or tried yet01:09
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TylerDurdendoes anyone know where i can get the 6629 nvidias?i need both source and common01:10
Kiralol @ /topic01:10
yojimbo-sanBlueMat: the main advantage is "being the same as the people who write the documentation", and "being the same as Ubuntu" - which is very valuable when you'r learning :-)01:10
BlueMateyequeue, yes Inet connection shared, no what connect the ethernet cables and Im good to go? set gateway on PCB to the IP of PCA?01:10
Kira4 hours and 50 minutes to Breezy. :)01:10
eyequeueBlueMat:  do you have internal and external interfaces?01:10
TylerDurdenubuto tell tylerdurden about cache01:11
eyequeueKira:  fridge says 48 minutes :)01:11
TylerDurdenubotu tell tylerdurden about cache01:11
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Trashcanubotu: tell tylerdurden about cache01:11
Trashcanubotu: tell tylerdurden about msg the bot01:11
Kiraubotu: tell us about abuse01:12
mustard5:)01:12
BlueMateyequeue & yojimbo-san , Ok, heres my setup, two PC's A & B - PcA (Main) has Wlan card, receiving from router, also has eth card, PcB has eth card also, I want to get connectivity to PcB01:12
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eyequeueBlueMat:  Firewall > Run Wizard, that should get you what you want01:12
Kris_kHey where can i get Drivers for a linksys Wireless card for a laptop ?01:12
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mustard5I'm trying to install skype :)01:13
KiraWhat timezone is Ubuntu based in anyway?01:13
yojimbo-sanBlueMat: PcB and PcA's eth should be on one subnet, and PcA's WLAN on another. I'd recommend "10.0.0.0/24" for PcB/PcA, because it's private and easy to type01:13
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kevogodUbuntu is timezone blind01:13
eyequeueKira:  i'd say universal :)01:13
Kiraubotu: tell Kris_K about ndiswrapper01:13
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concept10Dr_Willis, there is a new update in the repo..01:13
concept10hopefully it works01:14
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Dr_Willisconcept10,  thers new updates about every hr it seems. :P01:14
dloalhello01:14
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a_monkeyhow do i switch to breezy? i edited the sources.list to replace all cases of "hoary" to "breezy"01:14
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dloalhow do you install PHP? apt-get install PHP doesn't seem to work01:14
a_monkeynow how do i actually upgrade the whole system01:14
BlueMatyojimbo-san, networking isnt the best, can I have this as DHCP instead of static?01:14
mustard5a_monkey, sudo apt-get update01:14
ds[de] Kira: I'd say we wait 'til BB is released and just assume the timezone which has 12 pm / 0 am (whatever it is called) then01:14
mustard5a_monkey, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:14
cafuego_dloal: for apache, libapache-mod-php4. For apache2, libapache2-mod-php4. For command line, php4-cli01:14
concept10Dr_Fate, im trying to see the apple video and decide if im going to get a mac :)01:14
Kirads[de] : sounds right.01:14
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eyequeuea_monkey:  sudo apt-get update01:15
yojimbo-sanBlueMat: The wlan will be DHCP, but I recommend PcB/PcA eth to be static ...  however, you could run a dhcpd on PcA if you liked, that would allow PcB to be DHCP config'd.01:15
BlueMatyojimbo-san, I want to be able to access both boxes from externally directly, can I keep em on same subnet?01:15
dloalcafuego_: so.. what would the command be?01:15
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theineHi, does apt make a backup up copy of all configuration files in a .deb package so that I can easily view the differences between those and my modified ones under /etc?01:15
dloalI'm running apache201:15
eyequeuea_monkey:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade01:15
sandyeggoboygood afternoon all01:16
KiraI will sell my soul, dignity, and body to the guy who makes a user friendly wizard to set up PPP over Wifi in Ubuntu.01:16
sandyeggoboyi am having a problem mounting a drive, wonder if anyone can help me01:16
BlueMatyojimbo-san, can I msg you01:16
mustard5sure sandyeggoboy01:16
yojimbo-sanBlueMat: Yes,01:16
mustard5sandyeggoboy, tell us your problem01:16
eyequeuetheine:  look for files named /etc/foo/*.dpkg-old and /etc/foo/*.pkg-new01:16
sandyeggoboymessage is: mount: /dev/hdc2 already mounted or /mnt/Data busy01:16
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andre_mis this where the party is? :)01:17
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Kiras/guy/girl01:17
sockpuppe1ok folks ive just installed breezy01:17
mustard5what are you trying to do, sandyeggoboy ?01:17
theineeyequeue: alright, thanks01:17
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concept10Anyone know what port RTSP (real) is?01:17
sandyeggoboycannot seem to get this drive mounted at all. tried a different drive, its happening on all drives01:17
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sinistermilkGOD HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!01:17
sandyeggoboyi am trying to mount to drive so ican copy all the data from it onto a DVD01:17
ficusplanetsinistermilk, God is out at the moment01:18
sinistermilkSOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE!!!!?01:18
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God[afk] :P01:18
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dloallol01:18
Dr_Willissinistermilk,  Yell some more. :P or ask a question and see which works better01:18
sockpuppe1but when I rebooted i see grub with hoary and breezy01:18
sandyeggoboybrb, gotta refillmy teacup01:18
sinistermilkI'm haveing severe installation problems01:18
sockpuppe1te kernel for oary and breezy I mean01:18
mustard5sandyeggoboy, what is in /mnt/Data ?01:19
sinistermilklol01:19
miksusinistermilk now that was really a bad joke. really.01:19
a_monkeythanks guys01:19
mustard5sandyeggoboy, try umount /mnt/Data01:19
sockpuppe1and when I select breezy, kubuntu's screen pops up while grub is loading01:19
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sinistermilkwhen try to install the breezt base system it gives me an error concerning initrd01:19
theinesockpuppe1: ?01:19
sinistermilkright at the end of base installation01:20
N6REJsinistermilk, when did you dl the iso?01:20
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sinistermilkthen i skip it and install packages01:20
sinistermilkand everything is dandy unstill i reboot01:20
sockpuppe1theine what didn't you understand (not trying to be a prick just trying to understand if im not being clear enough)01:20
mustard5come back ubotu!01:20
sinistermilkand it freezes at the "finish installation" configuring ubuntu stcreen01:20
sandyeggoboysays: umount: /mnt/Data is not mounted (according to mtab)01:20
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sinistermilkand now grub isnt working right either01:21
mustard5hmm..interesting sandyeggoboy01:21
N6REJsinistermilk: when did you get breezy?  When was it downloaded?01:21
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theinesockpuppe1: what do you mean grub is loading while the ubuntu screen pops up?01:21
sandyeggoboyyeah01:21
sinistermilkit was downloaded yesterday01:21
sinistermilkthe md5sum was correct01:21
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boogsterwho's setting up torrents for ubuntu01:21
sockpuppe1no no thats not what I meant01:21
N6REJsinistermilk: is it RC1?01:21
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caonexI have some timing issues with my amd64, with the latest kernel, is there a command to pass to the kernel or something to fix this? it keeps it steady at 1ghz supposely.01:22
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theinesockpuppe1: but that's what you said, no?01:22
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sinistermilki dont know what that means01:22
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Kira:P01:22
briksubuntu suxx!01:22
skeplol01:22
andre_mlol01:22
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boogsterwhere can i download the devils0wn release01:22
theinebriks: why?01:22
sockpuppe1grub is loading and it says kubuntu and lists underneath it everything thats loading01:22
M4ximusWhere can i get lame for ubuntu ? please01:22
andre_mtheine: he's an evil, baby-eating gentoo-er01:22
NoUsetheine don't feed the trolls :-)01:22
mustard5sandyeggoboy, I'm not sure, but it doesnt sound like a hard problem for someone to solve01:22
sockpuppe1is that beause I installed kubuntu as well as gnome01:22
sockpuppe1NoUse who are you talking about01:23
starscalling4:20!01:23
sockpuppe1?01:23
theinesockpuppe1: I don't think it's grub that's loading in this case but the linux kernel01:23
Dr_Williskubuntu install changes the logo screen yes.01:23
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KiraM4ximus: it shouldn't be too hard to just download the source for lame and make. o.o01:23
sockpuppe1I stand corrected then01:23
theinesockpuppe1: anyway, what's the exact problem you're having?01:23
mustard5someone will come up with an answer if you keep asking :)01:23
sinistermilkany suggestions on atleast how to get atleast grub working to fix the computer01:23
caonextheine, because he's jealous01:23
sinistermilki get error 15 when frub tries to load now01:23
N6REJsinistermilk: if your not using RC1 then you need to redownload the ISO.  anything pre-colony4 had initrd problems.01:23
sockpuppe1is there supposed to be a listing fr hoary's kernel and breezy's kernel?01:24
sinistermilkthats the ing01:24
sinistermilkim on a live cd now01:24
crimsunsockpuppe1: a what?01:24
M4ximusKira: was wondering if it was something already on apt-get01:24
sinistermilkthe only way to get a os working on my comp01:24
carthikhow do i check, using ssh if a remote directory exists?01:24
N6REJsinistermilk: no, use the install CD if you want to install01:24
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mustard5!tell sandyeggoboy about pastebin01:24
sinistermilksince grub is not working properly01:24
crimsunM4ximus: it's in breezy/multiverse01:24
KiraM4ximus: I doubt it. MP3 technology involves patent issues, I believe.01:24
sinistermilki know to use the install cd to install01:24
mustard5sandyeggoboy, post your /etc/fstab in the pastebin01:24
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Kiraoh, there you go. :P01:24
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sexcopter8000msorry if this has been asked many a time tonight, but when is the final version of breezy out for download?01:24
sockpuppe1when I start my computer I see ubuntu 5.04's kernel version and breezy's kernel version01:24
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sockpuppe1as boot choices01:25
N6REJsinistermilk: have you tried hitting escape at the grub loader?01:25
crimsunsexcopter8000m: see the topic.01:25
mustard5sandyeggoboy, ubuto will tell you about the pastebin01:25
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sinistermilkim saying it didnt install properly and now grub gives me an error 15 message01:25
N6REJsinistermilk: there is an option for recovery mode there01:25
M4ximuscrimsun - got the link please01:25
sandyeggoboypastebin?01:25
sandyeggoboyhuh?01:25
sinistermilkthat doesnt work either01:25
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sinistermilkit wont even load grub01:25
sandyeggoboyoh wait ..01:25
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sexcopter8000mcrimsun, no specific time set yet then? :s01:25
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crimsunM4ximus: ...breezy...multiverse...01:25
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boogstershould i download RC1 or wait for the final release01:25
N6REJsinistermilk: and you can't redownload from the website with the live cd?01:25
jenocinhola01:26
sandyeggoboysee. i can't get it online to the internet either, so i am onmy windoze machine right now01:26
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theinesockpuppe1: i'm a bit confused i'm afraid... you see breezy and hoary in the grub menu, and that's a problem because?01:26
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crimsunboogster: just wait; you're less than 24 hours away01:26
jenocinanyone know if you can use gfxmenu in grub with ubuntu?01:26
speelhey any one knows what time breezy will be released??01:26
mustard5k01:26
Kiraubotu: tell M4ximus about !repositories01:26
sinistermilki cant burn it the disk drive is in use i only have one01:26
sandyeggoboybut iwill try to get it over there01:26
crimsunspeel: read the topic.01:26
mustard5hmmm...what connection type?01:26
speelah be patient01:26
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RouninIf you have a slow connection, I guess you might as well wait N6REJ... But you can upgrade from one release to another01:26
starscallingim on a gbit to the house01:26
mustard5maybe you should troubleshoot internet first01:26
starscalling>_>01:26
starscallingi wish !_!01:26
Kiraubotu: tell M4ximus about repositories01:26
sockpuppe1any clues01:27
N6REJRounin: not me... its someone else01:27
Kirastupid bot... you told me to use the exclamation mark... -_-01:27
eloonein wht room am i??01:27
N6REJsinistermilk: has a problem.. he's got a bum copy of breezy, and now the only OS he has is live, and doesn't think he can burn to cd with live installed.01:27
elooneanyone speak french pm me01:28
RouninI see, N6REJ01:28
N6REJsinistermilk: I think there is an option to install from live.  Have you tried that?01:28
sockpuppe1eloone #ubuntu-fr01:28
N6REJeloone: !fr01:28
N6REJty sockpuppe101:28
sinistermilki've looked around and haven't found it do you know how one would do this?01:28
theinesockpuppe1: so can you actually boot into breezy?01:28
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N6REJsinistermilk: ask Rounin01:28
miksuso i just installed another media player .. where can i find the programs?01:28
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sockpuppe1yessir01:28
sockpuppe1i did a dist-upgrade01:29
theinesockpuppe1: but you can't boot into your old hoary installation?01:29
sockpuppe1see thats the thing I upgraded01:29
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KiraWhy are there DVD images of BB?01:29
sockpuppe1so I didnt think It was ok to boot into either or01:29
theinesockpuppe1: so you're just wondering why the hoary boot entries still show up?01:29
N6REJbrb01:29
sockpuppe1yes theine totally01:30
KiraDVD = installation + live??01:30
pupilI am having probs setting up networking on my guest windows 98 with linux host01:30
theinesockpuppe1: probably because you still have the old kernel image from hoary installed01:30
RouninN6REJ: Ugh... That happened to me too, with the breezy preview01:30
Kiraoh, nvm, I just read the top of the image page. :P01:30
sockpuppe1will I run into problems?01:30
theinesockpuppe1: search for `linux-image' in synaptic01:30
RouninN6REJ, What I had to do was install Hoary and upgrade to Breezy01:30
miksucool ZINF works for shoutcast .. totem and rhytmbox did not01:30
jenocinanyone know if you can use gfxmenu in grub with ubuntu?01:31
dloalhello01:31
boogster29 minutes01:31
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theinesockpuppe1: if you remove the hoary image? no, it's safe to remove if the breezy image works01:31
sayanbreeeeeeeeeeeeezyy01:31
mustard5hi dloal01:31
dloalI type "sudo apt-get install php"01:31
dloalbut I get: E: Couldn't find package php01:31
sockpuppe1excellent01:31
dloalcan someone please tell me how to install PHP?01:31
RouninAnyone know how to recompile and submit packages though01:31
dloalthrough apt-get...01:31
Rounin29 minutes left, and the package I need the most still doesn't work01:32
Rounin(or was that what you meant by 29 minutes?)01:32
M4ximusanybody got an internet radio station working with ubuntu ?01:32
SuseUXok, it's the 13th, where is 5.10 final? :-D01:32
Kirasudo apt-get install xxx-dialer01:32
boogsterthey still have time to fix it01:32
Kirawait... wrong window. >_<01:32
pupilRounin, I have breezy installed, I installed kernel headers,. is that enough to configure kernel modules for vmware when installing vmware,. I mean,. I didnt have any probs,. but I did have a prob when it came to networking.01:32
bimberidloal: there are packages called php3 & php4 (in hoary)01:32
jenocinanyone use package grub2?01:32
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sockpuppe1also one further question01:32
theinedloal: sudo apt-get install php401:32
mustard5dloal, apt has a search function01:32
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theinedloal: or php3 or php5...01:33
N6REJRounin: me 2 till I used colony 4, then it went well01:33
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mustard5ah thanks theine01:33
sockpuppe1I installed stuff to compile on hoary01:33
Rouninpupil, I don't know actually, since I don't use vmware...01:33
pupilRockett18, you using QEMU01:33
sockpuppe1do i need to install build-essential in breezy01:33
RouninN6REJ: Colony 4? I haven't heard of that, to be honest ;)01:33
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dloalbut it says: E: Couldn't find package php501:33
mustard5sockpuppe1, yes01:33
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N6REJRounin: let me see if I can find it still01:33
dloalok, question01:33
bytterdamn... still having problem with solving DNS...01:33
dloalwhere can I get "libphp5.so"?01:33
pupilsockpuppe1,  you should install build-essential reguardless,. :p01:33
theinemustard5: i always use bash_completion if i know how the package name starts...01:33
sockpuppe1great!01:33
mustard5dloal, what about php4?01:34
pupilRounin, are you using Qemu ?01:34
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mustard5theine, ah....!  I'll try that01:34
don-oits 11:34pm in london. does that mean breezy comes out in 26 minutes?01:34
dloalI get the same thing01:34
dloalednz: Couldn't find package php401:34
RouninNope, pupil01:34
dloalednz: Couldn't find package php401:34
dloal, rather01:34
mustard5hmmmm...01:34
theinedloal: check out http://packages.ubuntu.com01:34
pupilRounin, olh shoot,. I thought I was on the vmware site,. lol01:34
cafuego_dloal: libapache2-mod-php501:35
sandyeggoboyok, mustard5, pastebin has been done01:35
boogsterNo it's 12:34 in london01:35
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sockpuppe1build-essential is already the newest version.01:35
boogsterlondon is GMT-1 at this point in the year01:35
dloalcafuego_: yeah, where can I find that?01:35
SuseUXboogster, I was going to say :-)01:35
mustard5paste the url to your pastebin in here sandyeggoboy01:35
sockpuppe1is that because I dist-upgraded01:35
don-oboogster: heh. thanks.01:35
sockpuppe1?01:35
boogsterGMT+1 uk is01:35
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cafuego_dloal: You can search for files using http://packages.ubuntu.com/01:35
bytterLondon and portugal because of daylight saving01:35
cafuego_!info libapache2-mod-php501:35
ubotulibapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB01:35
dloalah, it's not there01:35
cafuego_dloal: It's in main01:36
sandyeggoboyhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/302801:36
Kira/quit and /part jaywalk and /part gets hit by a car. Who is left?01:36
RouninOh I see, pupil :)01:36
cafuego_dloal: You on hoary? Use php4.01:36
mustard5sockpuppe1, yes..probably01:36
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mustard5thanks sandyeggoboy01:36
sockpuppe1even better01:36
dloalwhat exactly is hoary?01:36
SuseUXFirefox 1.5beta2 is --FAST--01:36
sandyeggoboykewl, i did it.....01:36
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RouninThe previous Ubuntu release, dloal01:36
crimsunrm is pretty fast, too.01:36
Trashcanhoary hedgehog = ubuntu 5.0401:36
sandyeggoboypastebin that is ....01:36
bytterSuseUX, with or without cairo?01:36
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dloalI'm on version 5.1001:36
cafuego_Rounin: No, the CURRENT Ubuntu release.01:36
eyequeue/quit01:36
LaserLineIt's 13/10 here...01:36
Meisterhey how ur doing?01:36
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sockpuppe1since the official release is coming out tomorrow, do I need to install anything tomorrow01:37
sockpuppe1?01:37
sinistermilkso when will the official release be available01:37
SuseUXbytheway, dont know, no chance of cairo in there, it's slow01:37
chjchjchjHelp pls. 1st time installing ubuntu; laptop w no cd no floppy no other pc. Has win98. Worked out how to make room and d/l ubuntu image, extracted kernel and initrd, got loadlin, booted to DOS and started the install that way. All goes ok...BUT a) no choi01:37
mustard5hehe sandyeggoboy01:37
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sinistermilkfor downlaod01:37
bytterSuseUX, u already tested with cairo?01:37
SuseUXfor now anyway01:37
cafuego_sockpuppe1: Just run a dist-upgrade tomorrow, IF it's out by then.01:37
sockpuppe1oh...01:37
crimsunchjchjchj: <cut off>01:37
theinedloal: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php501:37
mustard5sandyeggoboy, what drive are you trying to mount?01:37
mustard5sandyeggoboy, what is its name?01:38
dloalednz: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php501:38
SuseUXbytheway, cario is slow at this time, needs alot more work01:38
sockpuppe1so there was no point in upgrading today?01:38
psusianyone know why ansi graphics don't work right in telnet either from an xterm or the real text console?01:38
Meistercan u propably help me out: I need a good repository for ubuntu, where I can download w32codecs or mplayer and all the servers i found on the internet are down...01:38
ubuntu-friendshi around the world!01:38
eloonehi01:38
Meisterhey01:38
sockpuppe1hello01:38
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bytterIt's a pity glitz isn't yet up to the job01:38
TylerDurdenhow do i install .ebuilds?01:38
chjchjchj...no choice to load from iso image so it downloaded all from web (no big prob) but b) after a few qs re timezone it started to install (I think) all packages - 850 - and eventually bombed with lack of disk...I gave it 1Gb...Q1 how to make loadlin read fr01:38
N6REJdon't know where its at now.  I did know01:38
sandyeggoboytrying to mount drive /dev/hdc01:39
sandyeggoboyhas 4 partitions01:39
bytterand neither ATI drivers :P01:39
SuseUXbytheway, yer, you'd be better of using a -ck kernel for faster results01:39
theinedloal are you sure it's not there?01:39
SuseUXoff*01:39
dloali'm sure...01:39
bytter-ck?01:39
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bimberidloal: put your sources.list on a pastebin ...01:39
bytterSuseUX, -ck?01:39
theinedloal: it's in the main ubunut repository which is enabled by default...01:39
bimberi!pastebin01:39
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:39
bytterSuseUX, custom compiled, u mean?01:39
SuseUXbytheway, A kernel for me desktop01:39
N6REJas of this second, this ..http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20051012.2/ is the most recent01:39
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SuseUXmore a desktop kernel01:40
chjchjchj...Q1 read from iso, q2 how to limit the install to the packages I want, not everything01:40
Meisteryeah but i cant find it, neither with apt nor with synaptics...01:40
bytterSuseUX, define desktop kernel01:40
pupilanyone have vmware 5.5 beta?01:40
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TylerDurdenhow do i install .ebuilds?01:40
SuseUXyapyccky, much less latency01:40
theinebimberi: libapache2-mod-php5 is actually in main...01:40
pupilcause I'm haveing a heck of a time getting networking on 5.001:40
SuseUXbytheway, much less latency01:40
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joelitoWow 604, crowded night eh :)01:41
bimberitheine: i know :)01:41
mustard5sandyeggoboy, which partition on hdc are you mounting? hdc6?01:41
crimsunTylerDurden: find the equivalent in the repos and install it instead.01:41
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sockpuppe1ahhh01:41
crimsunTylerDurden: they're for Gentoo.01:41
chjchjchj...err...anyone follow that? Sorry for length01:41
sockpuppe1take it easy everyone01:41
sockpuppe1101:41
joelitoWhere's Breezy?01:41
bimberijoelito: it was over 650 a couple of hours ago!01:41
TylerDurdeni need to install this one file01:41
theinebimberi: so his sources.list should be fine, no?01:41
KiraI'm curious. Is anybody here running Ubuntu on a PPC?01:41
bytterSuseUX, and how can u get/configure that?01:41
lsuactiafnerkernels that allow processed like multimedia to get higher cpu even if they dont rightfully have that priority sucks if you run several copies of mplayer @ the same time01:41
_-[yeti-slayer] -anybody familiar with debian?01:41
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crimsunTylerDurden: "this file" being..?01:41
sandyeggoboyno, 1 at the moment, then 2 then 3 then 401:41
bimberitheine: not if he can't see the package01:41
joelitoYeah, crowded night01:41
TylerDurdennitro-sources-2.6.13.2-r1.ebuild crimsun01:41
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Meisterahh too fast... ;-)01:41
sandyeggoboyi guess they kinda go 1, then 2, then 4 then 501:41
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SuseUXbytheway, preemption model is not in 2.6.12, thous not in the ubuntu kernel01:41
sandyeggoboyor something like that01:41
Kira_-[yeti-slayer] -: #debian01:42
bytterlsuactiafner, i keep wondering why u need several copies of mplayer simultaneously :P01:42
sandyeggoboy???????01:42
theinebimberi: well... people do make spell errors...01:42
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_-[yeti-slayer] -ty01:42
mustard5sandyeggoboy, all vfat?01:42
chjchjchjMeister hell yeah...need help...tough q to explain...think I am being missed out here...simple q really...01:42
crimsunTylerDurden: find the reference in the ebuild to the upstream tarball and build it01:42
SuseUXbytheway, -ck patched kernel is somewhat tuned for the desktop better01:42
bimberitheine: ?01:42
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TylerDurdencrimsun, what? im a noob to linux01:42
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bytterSuseUX, and does it "really" make it better?01:42
TylerDurdencan u explain a little please crimsun01:42
crimsunSuseUX: and -ck interacts very poorly with our patches01:42
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lsuactiafnerbytter : one copy for a movie i'm watching, one for -rootwin background, one for encoding media and checking some varibles with -nosound, one for a movie i paused before i started to watch another01:42
mustard5sandyeggoboy, all ntfs sorry?01:42
sandyeggoboyno, strangely 1 is NTFS, 2 is labeled w95 (LBA), 3 is NTFS, 4 is fat3201:43
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SuseUXbytheway, YES, more responsive01:43
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theinebimberi: nevermind, checking his sources.list won't do any harm of course... :)01:43
willertTylerDurden: Have a look at apt-get.org, maybe you can find a .deb file to install there01:43
dloalbimberi: http://pastebin.com/39174201:43
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bytterlsuactiafner, now that's multimedia intensive :P :P01:43
TylerDurdenwillert can i just convert that ebuild into a deb?01:43
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dloalmy sources.list ...01:43
SuseUXcrimsun, thats your patches problem then :-)01:43
lsuactiafnerSuseUX : and under heavy loads it doesnt manage @ all.. reminds me of windows then01:43
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sandyeggoboyyou want copy of fdisk?01:43
mustard5sandyeggoboy, your mount commands to /mnt/Data are showing ext3 arent they?01:43
theinebimberi: i guess you were right...01:44
SuseUXlsuactiafner, actually preemption helps that out alot01:44
willertTylerDurden: no, I dont think so. You can convert rpm-packages with alien, but I fear you are out of luck with ebuilds01:44
bimberidloal: _everything_ is commented out!01:44
chjchjchjok, one more try...simple version...ubunto is installing EVERYTHING and I dont have enough room, how do I make it give me choice?01:44
dloalo01:44
dloalbimberi: it doesn't let me edit the file...01:44
SuseUXswap-prefect helps as well01:44
bimberidloal: except the CD that is :)01:44
lsuactiafnerSuseUX : nope, all copies playing @ the same time makes them all freeze01:44
sandyeggoboyyes but i have them commented out so they wont run01:44
TylerDurdengah i really need to install that ebuild01:44
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mustard5yeah ok sandyeggoboy although I have never seen and fdisk output before :)01:44
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dloalhow do I make the file editable?01:44
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evianif a deb is broken in a repository and someone fixes it, how does one go about getting the fixed version into the repository? (E.g. skype in breezy was messed up, but the comments by Dan Schmidt on http://www.mneylon.com/blog/archives/2005/09/25/skype-on-breezy/ show how to fix it.)01:45
lsuactiafnerSuseUX : if it obeyed the cpu nice -n 6 copies in the background would freeze instead but not the one i'm watching01:45
theinedloal: try `sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'01:45
bimberidloal: prepend the command with sudo (eg. sudo nano ...)01:45
miksuwill the update notfier notify of breezy final?01:45
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SuseUXlsuactiafner, how to you know it's preemption?01:45
crimsunmiksu: it has no concept of "final", nor should it.01:45
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willertTylerDurden: As far as I know .ebuilds only contain infos about how to build a source distribution and no binaries at all so downloading the .tar.gz file and running './configure && make && make install' shouldn't be much more complicated01:46
sandyeggoboywell does the ## make that lione not run by fstab?01:46
theinedloal: have you tried using synaptic by the way?01:46
lsuactiafnerSuseUX : since 2.6.12 didnt have preempt and it didnt screw up01:46
mustard5sandyeggoboy, actually I would like to see the output of 'mount'01:46
chjchjchjPlease can someone help me out here...I am taking notes for the next mug^h^h^hwindows dual-booter01:46
dloaltheine: I have no idea how to use it01:46
lsuactiafnersame config, make my own kernels.01:46
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SuseUXlsuactiafner, 2.6.12 did have preemption01:46
bimberidloal: uncomment lines 5, 10, 20, 23 & 26 (on your pastebin)01:46
SuseUXjust now it's split up01:46
SuseUXin 2.6.1301:46
crimsunevian: skype is not in breezy.01:46
caonexI have some timing issues with my amd 64 bit cpu. It seems as if though is using half capacity, that is 1ghz. Any ideas on how to solve this problem?01:46
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mustard5sandyeggoboy, yeah..its commented out01:47
willertTylerDurden: I've never used an ebiuld distro though, so take this info with a grain of salt01:47
crimsunchjchjchj: what's the issue?01:47
Kiracaonex: is it dual core?01:47
caonexKira, no it is not.01:47
TylerDurdenwillert, this is whats in the ebuild http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/302901:47
lsuactiafnerSuseUX : (X) Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop) <-- not nice01:47
mustard5can you paste output from mount in same paste window sandyeggoboy ?01:47
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chjchjchjcrimsun see above...installing on nocd nofloppy using loadlin...no choice, starts to install all 850 files then out of room01:47
eviancrimsun, oh I guess it is in universe (by the way skype works for me now because I have got a new machine -- although it still doesn't work on my previous laptop but thats ok)01:47
caonexKira, i saw something on google about that but does not apply to me because is single core01:48
chjchjchjcrimsun how to make the installer give me a choice of packages01:48
crimsunevian: it is NOT in universe.01:48
lsuactiafneror what do you suggest for someone that plays mplayer with nice -3 and 6 and i want the kernel to obey it, sever hey?01:48
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caonexKira, any ideas?01:48
Kiracaonex: no clue. :(01:48
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SuseUXlsuactiafner, care to explain why?01:48
lsuactiafnercaonex : its cpu throttle01:48
caonexKira, what a lock01:48
crimsunchjchjchj: choose the server install option01:48
sandyeggoboyis that the output from mount -a01:48
chjchjchjcrimsun ...and pref how to install from an iso rather than dl everything at install time.01:48
caonexlsuactiafner, what do you mean?01:48
eviancrimsun, oh ok... I'll have to check where it came from then01:48
chjchjchjcrimsun where? mo choices given01:48
mustard5sandyeggoboy, no01:48
bytterlsuactiafner, kernel to get hold of BeOS tricks for multimedia :P01:48
lsuactiafnercaonex : if you start using more than 50% of the cpu it will scale up, use more power, run hotter but run @ 2G like it should01:48
chjchjchjs/mo/no/01:48
mustard5sandyeggoboy, just mount01:48
willertTylerDurden: Wow, installing a kernel on your own is not so easy, one moment ...01:49
TylerDurdenwillert, i already did01:49
crimsunchjchjchj: you should have an installer prompt01:49
sandyeggoboyok01:49
sandyeggoboycoming up .. please hold01:49
mustard5will do01:49
TylerDurdenwillert, but i compiled a regular one using a guide, i didnt use this file or anythimg. im very confused on what to do with this file01:49
caonexlsuactiafner, so you saying it is not really using it, it can use up to 1ghz and it will stay the same?01:49
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chjchjchjcrimsun I have no cd no floppy so got loadlin, extracted the kernel and initrd, ran it w loadlin...install asked me where I was and keyboard etc but no choice of packages01:49
mustard5hehe bimberi01:50
SuseUXI always find distros seem to not like people using a kernel from kernel.org, they think there is best01:50
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caonexlsuactiafner, is like heating a motor....you have to heat it before using it, in cold weather of course. In this case, the processor is ready for heavy operations?01:50
lsuactiafnercaonex :  am saying its like a transmission, right now to run it only needs the fist gear, but when you need to go faster it goes to the second gear01:50
willertTylerDurden: http://users.pandora.be/seppe/nitro/2.6.13.2-nitro1/series contains an installation instruction01:50
crimsunchjchjchj: you should be able to back out to the full menu01:50
bytterGamer2, Fridge has freezed for me a long time ago :P01:50
crimsunbrb01:50
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TylerDurdenha willert i just got there myself01:50
Kiraubotu: tell caonex about emifreq01:50
lsuactiafnerright now nothing is using the cpu, so its not running @ full capacity, since there is no need for it01:50
TylerDurdenwillert, it says download somefile.bz2 but idk where to find it :S01:50
KiraWhat do you mean "I don't know"?01:51
willertTylerDurden: just leave out the 'series', its in the same dir01:51
caonexlsuactiafner, so to run ubuntu it needs 1ghz?01:51
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chjchjchjcrimsun from which part? I followed the onscreen stuff, name, local, kb etc...then it started installing 850 packs01:51
Avenhey01:51
Avenwhat's the command to locate a file ?01:51
caonexlsuactiafner, even in standby mode?01:51
lsuactiafnerbut when you run a shitload of appz @ the same time, or something very cpu intensive, it will scale up and run as fast as possible01:51
chjchjchjcrimsun btw the brub all worked fine01:51
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Kiracaonex: no01:51
TylerDurdenwillert, i see a patch-filename.bz2 but thats a patch01:51
lsuactiafnercaonex : espcially in standby mode, saves electricity01:51
thechitowncubswhat timezone is ubuntu going to be realeased on01:51
chjchjchjcrimsun following reboot it installed the "base" stuff then went straight on to the pkgs with no prompting01:52
bytterGMT+101:52
caonexlsuactiafner, Kira , sorry i am just clarifying to understand guys...01:52
bimberiAven: it's "locate <file>" :)01:52
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bytteruh01:52
ubuntu-friends@aven: locate <filename>, find, and so on01:52
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Kiracaonex: I think it's just that your chipset's built-in power management kicked in.01:52
bytteractually GMT without daylight saving01:52
lsuactiafnercaonex : but since i use my cpu @ full capacity i never drop to low gears, i keep @ 2G all the way01:52
caonexKira, it has always being like that...01:52
bimberiAven: as long as the locate database is up to date (sudo updatedb)01:52
caonexlsuactiafner, well damn...hehe01:52
SuseUXlsuactiafner, -ck patch demonstrates this with xcomposite, there is no left over shadow trails when you minimize a window01:52
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Kiracaonex: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22285.html01:52
camilohey what would i do with a .package file to install the package?01:52
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miksuso what is the folder for games and programs? (real newbie in linux)01:53
lsuactiafnercaonex : type uptime in a terminal, if loads approach load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 it will scale up01:53
lsuactiafnercaonex : my load is load average: 1.67, 1.64, 1.6201:53
bytterOk.. So... What's the url for Dapper packages *grin*01:53
lsuactiafnerbut most of the time is high 2 - 301:53
bimbericamilo: afaik, ubuntu doesn't work with .package files, what are you installing?01:53
chjchjchjAnyone_01:54
bimberibytter: aw, i was going to say that :)01:54
gmjonkercrimsun: to get back on that problem i had... i think you were right, it is a proxy problem. i found some guy on the internet who had the same problem, and it was caused by a content filter at his isp... mine is using one too... that must be it. Also, switching to ftp now seems to solve it...01:54
camiloarmagetron :)01:54
NoUsemiksu its really not stored in one place for everything, generally its /usr/bin for the executables but it can change01:54
camilothe new beta is in rpm or package form for linux01:54
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bytterbimberi, I'm just waiting for the dapper forum to be opened :P01:54
NoUsemiksu are you looking for anything specifc?01:54
bytterbimberi, that's the whole point in breezy release :P01:54
chjchjchj...during install after reboot it tries to install all 850 pkgs and bombs...how do I make it give me a choice?01:54
willertTylerDurden: Sorry, I am not registered... ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.13.2.tar.bz2 contains the sources you need to patch like described in the 'series' file01:54
miksunouse i installed crossfire in synaptic..it is a game01:54
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willerttoo late ;(01:55
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caonexlsuactiafner, load average: 0.95, 0.46, 0.4701:55
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Razor-Xmiksu: try opening up a terminal and just typing in ``crossfire''01:55
caonexKira, i have something like that program that comes with ubuntu01:55
miksunouse thanks found it01:55
bytter5 minutes01:55
caonexKira, i mean gnome, it is on the bar01:55
NoUsemiksu sure01:55
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bimbericamilo: you can install rpms using "alien"01:55
camiloall right01:56
brodmannwhat does the xvf mean in this command? gunzip -c files.tar.gz | tar xvf01:56
camilothat's in the repositories?01:56
tiaxextract, verbose, file01:56
Razor-Xbrodmann: you know, you don't need to do that anymore01:56
crimsunbrodmann: the same as tar xfz files.tar.gz01:56
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Razor-Xbrodmann: if you use tar -xvzf files.tar.gz, you can get the same effect01:56
bimbericamilo: yes indeed :)01:56
brodmannreally01:56
brodmannah yes01:56
brodmannvery nice01:56
camiloneat, thanks01:56
caonexlsuactiafner, did i understand it right? in standby the fact that my processor is running a 1ghz even when not required will save power?01:56
lsuactiafnerbrodmann : tar -zxf files.tar.gz ; gz file, extract, follow01:56
bimbericamilo: yw :)01:56
ompaulor if you add repos you may get the native format and it would be better to use source than rpms01:56
camilopeace01:56
brodmannwhat's the xfz?  permissions?01:56
joe__hi guys, can someone give me the new backports addy since mirror max is down?01:56
SuseUXI wonder if gnome devs will see the light and give us a FAST gnome 2.14?01:56
lsuactiafnercaonex : much more power01:56
Razor-Xbrodmann: extract, file, verbose, if i'm not mistaken01:57
Razor-Xbrodmann: take a look at the manpage for better details01:57
caonexlsuactiafner, wow i cant see how...01:57
mustard5!tell joe__ about backports01:57
brodmannah01:57
brodmannthanks01:57
chjchjchj...please I need help here with an install Q...am trying to make notes for win installers...using loadlin...after initial install went ok it reboots and tries to install all packages and runs out of space. No choice/no prompt to choose which packages01:57
lsuactiafnercaonex : if it speed goes up by 100% you use more than 100% more power, i think around 180%01:57
caonexlsuactiafner, ok so you saying it is like a car, it is in D but you do not necessarily use each gear 100%01:57
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miksuheh that game was not very beautiful :(01:58
caonexlsuactiafner, 100% being 2ghz in this case?01:58
lsuactiafnersorta01:58
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osfameron!eclipse01:58
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ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE01:58
Razor-Xmiksu: nethack is beautiful :P01:58
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ompaulbrodmann,  x extract f use stdout v verbose z compressed in gzip format01:58
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sandyeggoboymustartd5 - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/303001:58
brodmannok gotcha01:58
caonexlsuactiafner, ok so let me get it all straight, it saves power, but that indicator does not mean that is running at exactly 1ghz01:58
Razor-Xompaul: f overrides default behavior for stdin, has nothing to do with stdout01:58
mustard5sandyeggoboy, k01:58
lsuactiafnercaonex : double the speed its now requires 180% more power for 100%/double more performance01:58
Kiralsuactiafner: to overcome the increased impedance in the circuits due to heating, right?01:59
brodmanntrying to install jbuilder...that's my main goal01:59
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lsuactiafnercaonex : i dont understand why you dont understand.. its like a transmission, simple enough01:59
chjchjchj...windoze user trying to get into this thing...want to make notes for others, but cant install...gonna give up if nobody has any ideas here01:59
miksurazor-x played nethack and adom but sort of bored with roguelikes01:59
Razor-Xmiksu: meh01:59
lsuactiafnerKira : resistance and heat.01:59
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joelitoCan't wait, need breezy01:59
miksurazor-x actually i played adom every day for 8 years =)01:59
evianIf I want to use lirc, why do I have to compile a kernel module? Couldn't there be a deb which just installs a precompiled one?01:59
XTR-IIWhen is breezy out?01:59
Razor-Xmiksu: Tuxracer is also excellent, as is Frozen Bubble01:59
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KiraXTR-II in 6 months02:00
joelitoHopefully tonite02:00
XTR-IIKew.02:00
cafuego_XTR-II: When it's ready.02:00
Gamer2woohoo, 0:00 GMT02:00
bytter....02:00
andre_mparty!02:00
Razor-Xbut, I don't play many games on the computer, I'm besotted with Knife of Dreams, and secondly, Final Fantasy VII on a newly bought used PSX02:00
LaserLineWhat package let's you configure QT apps in Gnome without installing KDE ?02:00
ubuntu-friendsgogogo02:00
joelitoYeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh02:00
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lsuactiafneran engire runs as fast as it needs to run, it doesnt give all its got to go @ 3k/m hour only...02:00
bytterwaaaittiiiingggg :P02:00
Kiraquick! everybody refresh the image page!02:00
miksuBRING OUT YOUR BEER =)02:00
cafuego_afaik they're still testing atm. They'll release when they're happy that it works.02:00
evianLaserLIne, qtconfig ?02:00
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RouninHm, by the way - Is there an Ubuntu channel for Japanese/Korean/Chinese users? I'd like to ask them about input methods02:00
LaserLineevian Thanks, I forgot it's name... :-)02:00
mustard5sandyeggoboy, I'd like to just walk-through mounting the drive on a different directory02:01
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Razor-XRounin: there must be, and I know there is a CJK input method, can't remember offhand what it is, though02:01
mustard5see what happens02:01
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Gamer2forums are alive02:01
Gamer2and very responsive02:01
RouninOh, I know of some... The one I'm using now is OK actually02:01
bytternot here!02:01
Kirame gotta go02:02
trothim on a Kubuntu live cd right now and it wont mount my drives (hda1, hdb1, etc.) anyone know why?02:02
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joelitoyes, they have good servers02:02
RouninBut there are some better ones... One doesn't work in Breezy, and the other isn't included02:02
Gamer2fridge got stuck in the freezer though02:02
LaserLineIf I install Ubuntu Desktop and after that the Kubuntu Desktop package, and put all the KDE apps in a submenu in the Application menu - will it affect KDE menu ?02:02
andre_myou call this a party? you guys and gals are lame02:02
brodmannRazor-X, when I run apt-get update...I need to run the package manager update before I can install codecs?02:02
bytterhmmm02:02
brodmanni keep getting errors while trying to apt-get02:02
bytterstrange02:02
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Razor-Xbrodmann: you only need to run ``apt-get update'' if you updated your sources.list02:02
RobNycHEllo, what light wm can I Install02:02
bytterepiphany opens the forums... but firefox doesn't...02:02
KhaaaaaanHow many updates are left before Breezy is released?02:02
brodmannhmm02:02
Razor-XRazor-X: put the errors in pastebin, if you would02:02
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pupilwhat folder contains the files with .desktop extension?02:03
Gamer2There we go, forums are definately feelign it now02:03
bytterok.. firefox didn't liked Fridge not answering..02:03
trothim on a Kubuntu live cd right now and it wont mount my drives (hda1, hdb1, etc.) anyone know why?02:03
chjchjchjok I give in...back to windows for me...bye02:03
mustard5sandyeggoboy, ?02:03
axeusI'm thinking about enabling xcompmgr/transset, but I hear xcomposite is still quite buggy? Anyone have trouble with it?02:03
bytterchjchjchj, u quit easily :P02:04
Razor-Xchjchjchj: well, why are you using loadlin in the first place?02:04
ikmoaxeus, it crashes my breezy02:04
KhaaaaaanI wonder if I can play enemy territory on my IBM laptop...02:04
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chjchjchjrazor-x; no cd no floppy no other pc02:04
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LaserLineWhat does AutoFS package do ?02:04
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ZotnixI was wondering.. is there a policy of updating non-critical apps between releases?02:04
OrbordeI used Synaptic to get Pingus - now how do I play it...?02:04
dreifingerhey peeps...02:04
miksugreat sound quality in xinf..much better than winamp02:04
axeusI bet they'll have it fixed up nicely by 6.06, you think?02:04
Razor-Xchjchjchj: hmmmmm...02:04
evianpupil: find /usr -name \*.desktop02:04
foxgamerHi all. I've got a program that won't run because it needs libtcl8.4.so.0. IT says the file is not there, but it is. I have used ldconfig -p | grep libtcl and it is recognised.02:05
Hans`http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ ALIVE!!02:05
Hans`:)))))))))))))))))))02:05
Razor-Xchjchjchj: shoulda said that :P hold your horses, i'll try and see if I can help you02:05
Gamer2cool02:05
Gamer2forums are getting worse02:05
brodmannoooo, did you get that razor?02:05
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bytterlol02:05
bytterthe countdown says NOW02:05
seliniumOrborde, have you tried typing pingus in a term?02:05
Hans`http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ YEAH!02:05
Hans`:)02:05
chjchjchjrazor-x did say that ;-) and am trying to take notes for others02:05
trothanyone?02:05
joelitowe brought fridge down02:05
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LaserLineWhat does AutoFS do ?02:06
Orbordeselinium: Oh...crap. D'oh.02:06
K^Holtzfridge is back up and it says (NOW) for release02:06
Hans`yessssssss02:06
Orbordeselinium: I tried it with a few options to order it into Windows mode, and never tried it without options. :)02:06
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brodmannRazor-X, did you get those errors?02:06
carthik_any bash gurus willing to help out a newbie one-on-one for 5 minutes?02:07
zoot_evening... MAJOR problem on re-install of breezy :( had software raid on 2 disks, wanted to do fresh install on one of the disks (migrate using mdadm later) and now on boot: "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" - it appears to have apptempted to load the non-existent md devices...02:07
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seliniumOrborde, lol02:07
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cafuego_K^Holtz: You'll also note is counts in _days_.02:07
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SuseUXLaserLine, auto mounts filesystems, like remotes ones02:07
miksuTHIS IS SO COOL! I LOVE YOU GUYS, I CHERISH UBUNTU! NEVER AGAIN WINDOWS! THANK YOU UBUNTU - THANK YOU COMMUNITY =)02:07
K^Holtzcafuego_ it was in hours a little bit ago02:07
bytter????02:07
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Razor-Xbrodmann: can you repost the URL?02:07
chjchjchjloud...but well meaning ;-)02:07
NoUsemiksu your gratitude is appreciated but try not to yell02:07
bytter:D02:08
miksunouse sorry got a bit excited..seldom case02:08
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: how'd you get Windows there in the first place?02:08
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NoUsemiksu I understand :-)02:08
axeus*cough*02:08
mustard5:)02:08
bytterForums have 200 ppl seeing a single thread, lol02:08
Hans`Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 212 (99 members and 113 guests)02:08
Hans`omg02:08
ubuntu-friendsgreat!02:08
icewthm.. so are there final breezy images somewhere?02:08
bytter208, actually02:08
chjchjchjraxor-x bought an old laptop, it only had win2k...repartitioned, installed DOS then 98. Now trying to put linux on it.02:08
foxgamerAnyone able to help with getting libtcl8.4.so.0 seen by a program?02:09
rowanhello all02:09
ubuntu-friendshi02:09
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bytterI can't keep up with the messages, lololol02:09
TiMiDohello rowan02:09
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: ahhh02:09
SuseUXthere are a handful of Linux users according to microsoft and there trolls :-)02:09
HrdwrBobtheir02:09
LaserLineSuseUX Is it worth installing ?02:09
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chjchjchjrazor-x hence fast net, but nothing else. 128mb ram, only 4.5gb HDD. I have 1gb to give to linux02:09
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zoot_how on earth does a re-install find raid devices on disks whos mbr's i wiped out, created new partition tables on and formatted?02:10
rowangreetings.  I'm a brand new linux user (as of yesterday) but am baffled as to how to install applications.  Is there a resource out there that helps with this?02:10
SuseUXLaserLine, what?02:10
ThomasMHrdwrBob: Always nice to meet another grammar Nazi.02:10
bytterzoot_, happened to me...02:10
Razor-Xchjchjchj: have you tried to boot a Linux floppy kernel image using loadlin?02:10
HrdwrBobThomasM: :D02:10
ubuntu_eae02:10
LaserLineSuseUX AutoFS02:10
cevizoglubad zoot, naughty zoot02:10
omphmm02:10
cevizoglusorry, I had to  :P02:10
miksuso you guys gould we gather for a game..any suggestions ? =)02:10
foxgamerrowan: You can use the synaptic package manager to help you install.02:10
ThomasMHrdwrBob: There needs to be more of us in these dark times.02:10
ubuntu_Brazil02:10
tristanmikerowan, check out synaptic02:10
zoot_bytter: so you also got: Target system doesn't have /sbin/init ?02:10
byttermiksu, I sugest neverwinter nights :P02:10
HrdwrBobThomasM: indeed02:10
cevizogluzoot_, because it didn't actually wipe the mbr's?02:11
ubuntu_hi02:11
SuseUXHrdwrBob, never use their, the latters are to far away from each other :-)02:11
tristanmike!tell rowan about synaptic02:11
rowanthanks for the tips02:11
chjchjchjrazor-x no...can you do that? I could try it...is there a floppy image in the iso?02:11
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zoot_bytter: how did you eventually wipe them02:11
bytterzoot_, do u have a motherboard with RAID support? like VIA?02:11
ompon fridge.ubuntu.com it says "Ubuntu 5.10 Final Release (NOW)" under upcoming events, but i don't see it on the ubuntu website yet02:11
LaserLineAt what timezone is Breezy beeubg released ?02:11
miksubytter lol no more commercial soft for me .. and i think that is02:11
ubuntu_TEm algum brazuca ae?02:11
zoot_bytter: no02:11
zoot_bytter: using software raid02:11
bytterubuntu-friends, brazuca nao.. portugues!02:11
bytterzoot_, hmmm...02:11
Razor-Xchjchjchj: wait... what did you try and boot in loadlin when you had the CD?02:11
TiMiDoubuntu-friends: #ubuntu-br02:11
Belutzhow to set pin for bluetooth?02:11
SuseUXLaserLine, no02:11
bytterzoot_, when it happened to me, I had hardware RAID turned on and ubuntu freaked out...02:12
LaserLineSuseUX Why ? It sounds usefull...02:12
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Razor-Xbytter, TiMiDo: meh, tab-complete :P02:12
ubuntu_ a primeira vez q uso esse ubuntu02:12
ubuntu_mto bom02:12
Razor-Xubuntu_: #ubuntu-br02:12
seanHUH :-? wer am i ? am i in the matrix ? :)) LOL02:12
byttermiksu, ok... so what about liquid wars? :P02:12
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SuseUXLaserLine, if you use remote filesystems then yes, other then that it's useless02:12
chjchjchjrazor-x looking02:12
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byttermiksu, a Liquid Wars competition with 611 ppl, eheh02:12
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boogsterwhere's ubuntu?02:12
ThomasMomp: It says the release time is midnight 10-13-2005.02:13
Razor-Xboogster: hmmmm?02:13
Gamer2235 in that thread now02:13
Gamer2and gaining02:13
Razor-XThomasM: midnight in what timezone?02:13
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tiaxgmt02:13
ompThomasM: what timezone?02:13
Razor-Xok02:13
ThomasMRazor-X: GMT02:13
boogstergmt passed02:13
LaserLineSuseUX If I install Breezy on a system that already has windows, will I see all my partitiones in Ubuntu ?02:13
Razor-X4 PM 10/13 then :P02:13
bytterok, Forums are REALLY feeling the pressure!02:13
chjchjchjrazor-x I extracted all of \install\netboot\ubuntu-installer\i386 and then did loadlin linux root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.gz02:13
ThomasMWhich should have been... what? an hour and fifteen minutes ago?02:13
Razor-Xperfect for me :P02:13
shekhargreetings all, can someone help me with openafs/arla?02:13
M4ximusQuestion: what this means what am i missin ? configure:2366 error: C Compiler cannot create executable ?02:13
M4ximusplease02:13
ompis it not already midnight gmt?02:13
Razor-Xchjchjchj: what's the error?02:13
crimsunM4ximus: build-essential02:14
boogstergmt was 14 minutes ago02:14
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crimsunshekhar: are you using BreezyL02:14
crimsuns/L/\?/02:14
Prof_FrinkHmmm, it's gonna be one fast torrent when it happens02:14
zoot_bytter: originally setup partitions on /dev/sda[123..] , then installed, then partitioned /dev/sdb[123..] , then created /dev/md[123...]  with missing disks (ie only from /dev/sdb[123..]  then rebooted (and more) then added the /dev/sda[123..]  partitions into the raid arrays - worked like a charm. now, because both mbr's contain the mbr pointing to the raid devices it seems to panic :(02:14
foxgamerboogster: gmt was an hour and 14 mins ago :)02:14
ubuntu-friendsbytter: sorry? I dont understand...02:14
shekharcrimsun:  yes!02:14
SuseUXLaserLine, yes, most distros set it up for you, nenevr used WIndows with ubuntu so02:14
icewtmy wget is waiting... ;)02:14
evianI'm already running breezy, do I change my repository settings when it comes out officially?02:14
ThomasMomp: I'm at GMT-5, and it's currently 20:15, but I'm not sure about daylight savings and all that.02:14
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bytterubuntu-friends, u don't understand what?02:14
boogsterNo GMT was 15 minutes ago, london is GMT+1 at the moment02:14
M4ximuscrimsun: installing02:14
ompThomasM: oh, i'm PST :)02:14
chjchjchjrazor-x all goes well...installs from web...but tries to install everything after the reboot...ie installs base stuff and then carries on w 850 packages...no choices...eventually bombs out of room02:14
G-SpotOK, how do I get gpilot to see a usb Palm Pilot?02:14
crimsunShadowline: are you using openafs-modules-source?02:14
bytterzoot_, now that's weird02:14
seanwhat are the  specification  in which i should need to install unbuntu ?02:14
ThomasMomp: You're GMT-8, then.02:14
ompThomasM: i know :)02:14
ubuntu-friendsbytter: brazuca nao.. portugues!02:14
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zoot_bytter: tried: if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/sda02:15
crimsunsean: please see the RC announcement02:15
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: can you also get me a directory listing of that site?02:15
zoot_bytter: and for /dev/sdb02:15
seanhmmmm.... RC ?02:15
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foxgamerboogster: It was an hour and 14 mins ago. I am in uk. I should know ;)02:15
LaserLineAnyone knows if after Installing Breezy on a Windows XP Machine I'll see all of my partitiones?02:15
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zoot_bytter: of course prepended by 'dd'02:15
boogsterI am in the UK TOO, UK is GMT+1 this time of year02:15
chjchjchjrazor-x what site?02:15
ThomasMG-Spot: I've not looked into it for a few years, but I had to use 'dmesg' to find out which USB /dev slot it was on, and then either symlink that from /dev/pilot or configure g-pilot to use that /dev slot.02:15
bytterzoot_, don't have a clue... try with only 2 disks first02:15
Razor-Xchjchjchj: nevermind, sorry, I just got another idea02:15
shekharcrimsun:  you mean shekhar, not Shadowline... yes, i have installed openafs-modules-source and openafs-client02:15
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bytterzoot_, sorry, two partitions02:15
evianLaserLIne, I don't think they show up without you doing your own mounts02:16
SuseUXLaserLine, fat32?02:16
boogsterGMT: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/02:16
gmjonkerLaserline: I didnt see mine, but it was not so hard to mount them. My usb drives did show up nicely though.02:16
boogster00:16 GMT02:16
Razor-Xchjchjchj: there should be an Ubuntu boot floppy out there, lemme see if there isn't (been a while since i've helped out here)02:16
zoot_bytter: how's that going to help?02:16
crimsunshekhar: yes, nick-complete fubar and me->work02:16
chjchjchjrazor-x appreciate it all02:16
crimsunShadowline: sorry02:16
zoot_it's the mbr that seems poked02:16
bytterzoot_, dunno! just a guess02:16
paradon'date -u' gives you GMT.02:16
zoot_;)02:16
G-SpotThomasM, good call. I didn't thing of checking the logs. First rule of a sys admin too.... doh!02:16
LaserLinegmjonker What do I need to do to see all my windows drives ? I have NTFS and FAT32 partitiones...02:16
ThomasMboogster: Thanks for the link.  What are the dates for UK's daylight savings?  I've been wondering about that lately, especially with the US legislating a change in dates.02:17
Razor-Xchjchjchj: ahhh, it doesen't have a boot floppy, then I suspected right... we'll have to work with a Debian boot floppy02:17
zoot_bytter: know anyone with software raid experience here? though i think it's more subtle, as this install i'm NOT using raid02:17
evianLaserLine: man fstab02:17
seanaw well  I think i might just install  windows server on this computer instead :P  made the computer mite respond faster :P02:17
LaserLinegmjonker I thought AutoFS will do that for me...02:17
shekharcrimsun:  i think i had it working okay, the /afs directory was placed in my root directory, but i don't know how to mount the afs volume02:17
Xenguyhaha02:17
gmjonkerLaserline: edit your fstab file. I dont know about AutoFS, im quite a newbie myself.02:17
bytterzoot_, well.. i'm using software RAID right now...02:17
boogsterThomasM see here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=13602:17
zoot_bytter: oh ;)02:17
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gnomefreakrazor-x: the only boot disk ive seen for ubuntu is the cd i dont ever remember hearing of anyone making a floppy02:17
zoot_bytter: how would _you_ delete the mbr of a disk?02:17
bytterzoot_, got three partitions in /dev/sda and /dev/sdb... partition sda2 and sdb2 make my /dev/md002:18
shekharcrimsun:  i have also heard of something called arla...02:18
ThomasMG-Spot: When I did it, there were two entries both pilot-related.  I think it uses one for keepalive checks and one for data, but I'm not sure.  In any case, I think it worked using the first entry.02:18
bytterzoot_, but I have /boot on a non-raid partition02:18
Razor-Xgnomefreak: that's what I thought... just been a while since i've helped out, Sophmore year is being a **** to me02:18
gmjonkerLaserline: http://ubuntuguide.org tells you all these things.02:18
ericlHow do you limit the amount of talk you see in chat?02:18
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Razor-Xericl: think about the people who help in here :P02:18
Trashcanlol02:18
bytterzoot_, the dd should do it... either that or just fdisk the thing...02:18
Razor-Xericl: you learn to live with it/chat in it just fine02:18
ThomasMboogster: Good God, man.  Any other useful links for time zones you have squirreled away?02:18
shekharcd -02:18
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gnomefreakrazor-x i know the feeling    now i dont know if someone has ever tried to make one but im sure somehow it can be done02:19
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zoot_bytter: hmmmm... i've done this sort of thing on monster servers before with complicated setups, but this... very confusing02:19
bytterOsvaldoGago, tuga?02:19
Razor-Xgnomefreak: well, if the Ubuntu boot-image is larger than the floppy size, it may be hard02:19
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zoot_bytter: not ubuntu (slackware)02:19
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foxgamerAnyone able to help with getting libtcl8.4.so.0 seen by a program?02:20
Razor-XThomasM: I have ratpoison maximizing a Konsole screen with the menu and tab bars removed, and i've split the screen half-way, and one half contains this channel :P02:20
gnomefreakRazor-X, true02:20
LaserLineHow can I find out on what /dev/hda are my windows partition (what do i have to type in terminal)02:20
bytterzoot_, ok... from the begging... u've tried fdisking it all, right? then boot Ubuntu Installation, go through the setup, then reach the cfdisk wizard...02:20
bytterzoot_, what's happening next?02:20
SuseUXfoxgamer, yep02:20
Razor-Xchjchjchj: you still here?02:20
yeti-slayerjust installed ubuntu when i sudo -s i still have 0 perms for my hard drive help?02:20
chjchjchjraxor-x still here; trying to follow; did I miss something?02:20
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ThomasMRazor-X: Heh. Mine's a putty window stretched full at 10-pt.02:20
gmjonkerLaserLine: fdisk -l usually does it02:20
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: yeah, meh02:20
zoot_bytter: deleted all previous partitions, created different ones, anew, formatted and installed02:20
shekharcrimsun:  can you help?02:20
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chjchjchjrazor-x trying to follow with a tiny irc client...no disk space, see! No scrolling...aaargh02:20
Razor-XThomasM: :P, I can provide a screenshot, if you want02:21
foxgamerSuseUX: I am trying to run a program that needs that file, but it says that it cannot find it.02:21
bytterzoot_, how many software raid did u created?02:21
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LaserLineevian if it's fat32 I should use 'vfat' in the fstab file ?02:21
crimsunshekhar: sorry, was away taking care of MOTU stuff02:21
zoot_bytter: 6 partitions on each disk02:21
bytterzoot_, like, have you made /boot RAID?02:21
boogsterhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/jigit/02:21
SuseUXfoxgamer, look in /usr/lib for libtcl8.4.so02:21
zoot_bytter: yes02:21
ThomasMLaserLine: I use fdisk's list mode.  'fdisk -l /dev/hdX' where X is a through b, to find out what partitions are available on what standard IDE drives.02:21
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zoot_bytter: originally, but not this time02:21
bytterzoot_, and swap too?02:21
ThomasMRazor-X: Sure. 'S'always nice to see how someone else customizes their lives.02:21
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zoot_bytter: no, not swap02:21
evianLaserline, yeah02:21
SuseUXfoxgamer, actually in /lib02:21
yeti-slayerjust installed ubuntu when i sudo -s i still have 0 perms for my hard drive help?02:21
foxgamerSuseUX: I have and it is there. I have also used ldconfig | grep libtcl and it is recognised.02:22
shekharcrimsun:  so i think i had it installed okay, the /afs directory was created in my root filesystem, but how do i mount an afs volume?02:22
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bytterzoot_, oh, ok! swap doesn't need to be raided... I think youre problem must be with /boot being RAIDED02:22
zucchi3PLEASE HELP - I just downloaded the beta Firefox 1.5 for Linux. I am a newbie and have no clue what to do next. Do I extract it, or run it? How??02:22
SuseUXfoxgamer, make a symlink to it02:22
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zucchi3Please help02:22
zoot_bytter: want to install without raid onto one disk, them manually create later, as i did earlier today without problems02:22
TiMiDozucchi3: ask02:22
zucchi3who?02:22
foxgamerSuseUX: Okaly. How do I do that?02:22
LaserLineThanks !02:23
TiMiDoask you're question zucchi302:23
zoot_bytter: this _must_ have to do with the mbr's02:23
fdrln -s /path/ symlinkname02:23
SuseUXfoxgamer, ln -s libtcl8.4.so /lib/libtcl8.4.so.002:23
Rouninzucchi3: If you're using Ubuntu, then try installing it via apt-get instead of downloading it02:23
ThomasMI know sudo can be told to allow commands.  Can you forbid it certian commands, as well?  I'd rather say what I don't want a user to do, than the other way around.02:23
zoot_bytter: i even nuked the partitions and mbr's using another rescue disk02:23
TiMiDoThomasM: man chmod02:23
boogsterUBUNTU http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/20051013/02:23
bytterzoot_, I don't believe it's mbr related...02:23
fdrThomasM, try visudo02:23
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ThomasMfdr: I'm more asking what the syntax would be when using visudo.02:24
fdras I recall, there is a permission scheme specifically for what can be sudo'd, so "man visudo"02:24
Razor-Xchjchjchj: i'm going to propose one of those whacky ideas which are hit-or-miss, but may become useful for those people in bad condition :P02:24
zoot_bytter: any clue what else if i've nuked everything and started from scratch02:24
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SuseUXfoxgamer, assuming your in that directory02:24
zucchi3It's not there - so I downloaded it form the webstie- I downloaded Firefox and need to know how to get it up and running02:24
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keffyndmorning all02:24
bytterzoot_, actually... no :P02:24
boogsterhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/20051013/ - is this the final?02:24
Razor-XThomasM: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png02:24
kbrooksThomasM: visudo opens up a temp file02:24
chjchjchjrazor-x ok...<grabs for the vodka>02:24
TiMiDozucchi3: sudo apt-get install mozila-firefox02:24
kbrooksin $EDITOR02:24
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ThomasMkbrooks: Yes. I know this.  Nevermind.02:25
zoot_bytter: thx for trying to help, it's 2:24am here ... need some zzzz now ;)02:25
fdrboogster, that's why we probably didn't jump up when you mentoined it :)02:25
Razor-XThomasM: the background on the window is part of my Konsole theme only, only that little corner on the top-right of the screenshot is ratpoison :P02:25
bytterzoot_, np... 1h25 here :P02:25
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: can you free up more space for this project, first of all?02:25
crimsunshekhar: please see the openafs documentation. Apologies, but I have a call.02:25
zoot_bytter: cheers02:25
bytterzoot_, cheers and good luck02:25
chjchjchjrazor-x remember current state is, if I boot I get the grub menu...and it just starts trying to set up...but gets jammed up. Prob needs repartitioning.02:25
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LaserLine2:25 here too...02:25
shekharcrimsun:  ok02:25
fdrRazor-X: a Trigun fan?02:26
omphmm02:26
Razor-Xchjchjchj: you have no other PC whatsoever?02:26
Razor-Xfdr: anime in general, Trigun was pretty cool, and provides a nice Konsole background02:26
chjchjchjrazor-x I could maybe get another 300mb if I try...not much more than that. Current free is 1gb. The HDD is 4.5, 98 is using 1Gb, which I am using for work...2K is using a little under 1Gb...and I dont dare delete that yet02:26
ThomasMkbrooks: I know this.  It opens up a temporary file that is written to /etc/sudoers when finished.  My question was: what's the syntax for disallowing certain commands, rather than listing all allowed commands.  Nevermind, though.  I'll figure it out myself, without saying the same thing a dozen times.02:26
chjchjchjrazor-x sure I have lots of other PCs, all in the UK, and I am in Japan!02:26
Razor-Xchjchjchj: ahh! meh02:26
ompso i'm confused now.. is breezy released yet or no?02:27
Razor-Xchjchjchj: wow, tihs is a challenge... can you boot up windows, in any shape or form?02:27
chjchjchjraxor-x I could prob use a PC from a mate...but kinda would like to work out how to do this without02:27
ThomasMomp: Looks like they're running late.02:27
chjchjchjrazor-x yes np am in win 98 right now02:27
Razor-Xs/tihs/this/02:27
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foxgamerSuseUX: It says that the file already exists. Shall I delete this file (or move it) and do it again?02:27
ompThomasM: oh :(02:27
chjchjchjrazor-x 98 and 2k both booting fine02:27
Razor-Xchjchjchj: excellent </Mr. Burns>02:27
chjchjchjlol02:27
SuseUXfoxgamer, what file?02:27
Razor-Xchjchjchj: now, can you get dd for windows?02:27
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ThomasMRazor-X: I like the style and the desktop manager.  Your font colors sure are hard to read, though.  White text on a sometimes almost-white background would drive me nuts.02:28
bytter"We are just starting to set the feature list for Dapper (6.04) ..." I heard they wanted to do  something with the boot times by changing the old sysv init scheme... anyone has a clue about it?02:28
kbrooksomp: what dont you like about gentoo02:28
chjchjchjdd? what does it do? I prob have an equiv02:28
foxgamerSuseUX: /lib/libtcl8.4.so.002:28
ompkbrooks: the compiling gets annoying :p02:28
ThomasMchjchjchj: Reads and writes blocks directly from/to the device.02:28
Razor-XThomasM: it does blend in and become hard to read, on occasion, that's why I put my IRC channel up-top and homework on bottom, when working on homework02:28
kbrooksomp: what do you mean?02:28
chjchjchjrazor-x ok I will go get it...brb02:29
ThomasMRazor-X: Why not just go bright green active color, or tint the background?02:29
SuseUXfoxgamer, then your program should find it02:29
Razor-Xchjchjchj: it reads and writes (mostly) RAW to your device, I have found no Windows equivalent yet02:29
willertchjchjchj, Razor-X: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ has dd for win3202:29
ThomasMRazor-X: Though, TBH, the all-grayscale thing looks pretty cool.02:29
ompkbrooks: when you download something in gentoo, it compiles it from source02:29
Razor-XThomasM: because the contrast is _too_ great if you stare at the console for too long :P02:29
ompkbrooks: to get gnome installed it takes me about 8 hours02:29
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chjchjchjrazor-x ah, only linux then, so I cant run it...err...and I have to ask - why do you want to write direct? This machine boots fine into 98 and 2k...grub works fine...02:29
fdromp: I thought there were binary packages as well, but given the culture of the whole thing I suppose reduces their prevalence02:29
foxgamerSuseUX: That's what I thought. I shall try renaming the old file and doing it again and then reboot. See if it picks up on it.02:29
kbrooksomp: that sucks02:29
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: there's a win32 port, as someone just pointed out above02:30
ThomasMRazor-X: You do your homework in tex? Nice.02:30
Razor-Xchjchjchj: if you can grab that, i'm going to try and propose a crazy idea02:30
Razor-XThomasM: yeahp, Open Office is up only because I was typing up a poster of sorts02:30
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chjchjchjrazor-x...ok...will get it...will shout when back02:30
fdrThomasM: May I suggest getting started with LyX?02:30
Razor-Xchjchjchj: mmmkay, give me a PM when you get back, if i'm not readily responding :P02:30
SuseUXfoxgamer, you could try symlinking it to /usr/lib02:30
zucchi3what's apt-get??????02:30
ThomasMfdr: Hrm?02:30
Razor-XThomasM: don't go along with LaTeX if you aren't in-style with it, start with ConTex02:31
foxgamerSuseUX: Okay. Thank you. I'll give that a try first.02:31
ThomasMfdr: Is it a simple set or something?02:31
Razor-XThomasM: s/ex/eX/02:31
NoUse!apt-get02:31
ubotuI guess apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/02:31
fdrThomasM: A "WYSIWYM" editor for TeX of the La variety.02:31
Razor-XThomasM: LyX is a semi-graphical attempt at LaTeX02:31
LaserLineWhere are all the .desktop files in Ubuntu (GNOME) ? where are they stored ?02:31
beingI believe it is a program for getting an application02:31
ThomasMI'm more interested in using it from code than actually working in it regularly.02:31
fdrThomasM: At least you can export it as TeX to get some working examples.02:31
mustard5LaserLine, in home folder02:31
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keffyndanyone here have experience with TV tuners? USB and internal?02:32
LaserLineWhere in Home folder?02:32
chjchjchjrazor-x bak have dd for win...please try not to make this thing unbootable02:32
ThomasMRazor-X: TeX can do graphics, yes?02:32
mustard5hidden files02:32
NoUsekeffynd I have a bit of experience02:32
ThomasMRazor-X: And multiple columns or text groups?02:32
Razor-XI have to say, excluding the few bumps I started out with, it's pretty nice02:32
Razor-XThomasM: yeah, it can02:32
Trashcanlaserline: .xxx files are hidden02:32
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fdrWell, TeX is used for just about every technical publication, so it better ;)02:32
ThomasMRazor-X: Is there a way to discover from code (say perl or C) how large a certain text/graphic area is, if allowed to expand horizontally or vertically to fit the contents?02:32
LaserLineI know it's hidden..02:32
mustard5LaserLine, select 'Show hidden files' in nautilus02:32
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LaserLinein what dir in home ?02:32
mustard5in your user directory02:33
Razor-Xchjchjchj: i'm going to give you three floppy images, I want you to pastebin the contents of all three for me, and i'll judge if my idea is correct02:33
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ThomasMRazor-X: I'm talking about automatic laying-out of things like newspapers (to use a simple example), where the program needs to be able to discover how much space is remaining to choose the next page element.02:33
skepor press Strg+H02:33
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SuseUXLaserLine, you dont mean hidden do you?, you mean the file extension .desktop?02:33
chjchjchjrazor-x ok02:33
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t3c0d02:33
Razor-XThomasM: there are complex LaTeX ways, actually02:33
bytefooanyone know why ubuntu would lock up after being on but unattended for a few hours02:34
LaserLineSuseUX I mean the files that you creat, edit etc, to see an Icon in the 'Application' Menu, on the Desktop, on the panel... etc...02:34
Razor-XThomasM: check out ``LaTeX: A Document Preperation System'' by Lamport02:34
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mustard5bytefoo, power management problem?02:34
miksu+02:34
chjchjchjrazor-x currently here is 4 partitons, 1 is win32 running 98, 2 is ntfs/2k, 3 & 4 are the attempted install (can be wiped)02:34
ThomasMRazor-X: Cool. Thank you, kindly.02:34
weobhey02:34
hyphenatedmmm, LaTeX makes for some gorgeous documents02:34
weobanyone got 3d working on breezy ?02:34
weobnvidia02:34
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Razor-Xhyphenated: very :P02:34
bytefoowhy would they change power management from hoary to breezy though?02:34
SuseUXLaserLine, thants what I thought, they seem to be somewhere else in ubuntu02:34
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weobi tried using the nvidia install package and it wont do it02:35
weobi have kernel headers  -02:35
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weobit fails to load the .ko file02:35
budluvaanyone know where i can find firestarter for breezy? is it in the universe repo?02:35
d3viceweob, maybe breezy has a package with nvidia drivers02:35
weobi tried it02:35
chjchjchjrazor-x I *could* wipe 2k and give >2gb to the install...but reluctant to ditch a working os02:35
Razor-Xchjchjchj: http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/boot.img and http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/root.img02:35
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weobit doesnt enable 3d02:35
budluvaand how safe is it to use the breezy universe repo?02:35
fryfrogapt-get update && apt-get upgrade when using breezy badger should get final when released, right?02:35
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d3viceweob, weird02:35
Razor-Xchjchjchj: I won't need 2 GB, more likely 3 MB :P02:35
bytefoosuper safe :/02:35
bytefooit comes out tomorrow :O02:35
chjchjchjrazor-x received...am grabbing them...give me a min (of ignoring this chat)02:35
LaserLineSuseUX yeah, I can't find them, and when you install Kubuntu you get filled with Icons in the Application Menu and in System menu...02:36
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Razor-XRazor-X: or, plan B, 700 MB02:36
caustictwinanyone know a good ftp client with ssl/tls support?02:36
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fdrweob: did you notice the thing in the package description that says you need to type some command for it to edit your x.conf?02:36
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SuseUXweo, did you follow the nvidia howto ubuntu guide?02:36
bytefoodoesnt gftp do ssl/tls02:36
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Razor-XThomasM: you read my homework didn't you? :P02:36
d3vicefdr :)02:36
BlueMatwhens breezy stable?02:36
weobyes it doesnt work on mine02:36
caustictwinbytefoo: I don't think so...02:36
bytefooBlueMat, tomorrow. :|02:36
ThomasMRazor-X: Not really.  Just the markup, until I figured out what I was looking at.02:36
RouninEven though it is tomorrow now?02:36
BlueMatbytefoo, YAYYY!!!02:36
SuseUXweo, what have you done when installing the nvidia package?02:36
mustard5fryfrog, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade02:36
BergcubeIt says on the fridge it's released now......  Confusing.02:36
weobaha - but there is an update to download - hopefully it fixes it02:36
fdrd3vice: eh? what's up?02:37
Razor-XThomasM: ahhh, ok, I designed it to be that way (although I know some who read it :P)02:37
ScatterBrainIs there a way to "upgrade" to Breezy from the ISO image?02:37
BlueMattomorrow as in friday?02:37
weobi told it to try to compile it02:37
ScatterBrainIE Hoary --> Breezy02:37
d3vicefdr i was just thinking about some command for it to edit your x.conf too...02:37
weobit failed02:37
t3c0ScatterBrain, id LOVE to know that too02:37
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SuseUXweo, the one from nvidia.com?02:37
weobcomplained about not being compiled with the proper gcc version02:37
weobyes02:37
SuseUXahhh02:37
mustard5fryfrog, plus changing your sources.list02:37
SuseUXok02:37
ScatterBrainI know that I could do the "apt-get upgrade" thingy, but It would *SO* cool to just a CD in and go.02:38
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chjchjchjrazor-x ok I have the 2 img files02:38
weobi have kubuntu on my hdd waiting to be burnt - very tempted to try it out02:38
Razor-Xchjchjchj: can you inflate the contents of the two images, and paste the filenames into pastebin?02:38
weobi like kde moreso than gnome02:38
chjchjchjrazor-x btw I have the iso of the ubuntu install, still, you know?02:38
SuseUXweo, run CC=gcc-3.402:38
weobi did that02:38
weobit resulted inthe same error02:38
chjchjchjrazor-x sorry wtf is pastebin?02:38
Razor-Xweob: Kubuntu is awesome, I don't use KDE anymore, but I use many of the utilities, because they work excellent even without KDE02:38
drummer87where's my breezy!!!02:38
zucchi3I understand how to use apt get but I can't find firefox 1.5 - where is it???02:38
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weoblol02:39
Razor-Xchjchjchj: oh cool, then that simples things up some02:39
axeusIt says I have 451 updates... I'm afraid to update any of them.02:39
SuseUXweo, still saying gcc error?02:39
Rouninapt-get install firefox or apt-get install mozilla-firefox ?02:39
fdrzucchi3: I do not think it is in the default selection of repositories02:39
weobyes02:39
mustard5!tell chjchjchj about pastebin02:39
Razor-Xchjchjchj: www.pastebin.com02:39
Razor-Xmeh02:39
zucchi3how do i find it02:39
SuseUXweo, CC=gcc-3.4 and export CC02:39
weobi even tried CC=gcc-4.0.2 and didnt work - i dunno what to do02:39
SuseUX?02:39
weobyes i tried that02:39
bytefooi dont think they put firefox 1.5 in since its a beta?02:39
Razor-Xweob: I use ratpoison actually, a very nice WM in many respects02:39
zucchi3yeah02:39
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weobok ill check it out02:40
tiaxwell02:40
fdrzucchi3: You'd have to probably download the binary or sources from the firefox site and perform the necessary steps to install them.02:40
SuseUXweo, just ignor it then02:40
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bytefooyes, probably the saem for deerpark too02:40
weobignore it?02:40
zucchi3It's on their website though - can I download it from there - and how?02:40
bytefoowhat a horrendous name by the way :/02:40
NoUsezucchi3 unless you have a really good reason to use firefox beta stick the version in apt-get02:40
weobi want 3d so i can play wow damn it ! haah02:40
SuseUXweo, yes you can bypass it, just by saying NO02:40
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weobbypass what?02:40
SuseUXthe gcc error message02:41
weobno i did that02:41
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rizlahi02:41
SuseUXweo, ok, Did you install the nvidia-glx package first?02:41
weobthere are new updates so im gonna reboot and see what happens after the updates are finished and maybe try installing again\02:41
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weobyes02:41
weobbut for 3d they dont do it02:41
SuseUXok02:41
rizlahow can i set my pc ip?02:41
chjchjchjrazor-x am working...getting a .img extractor etc...brb02:41
SuseUXweo, what card?02:42
weobi uninstall them when i try to install nvidia's02:42
Razor-Xchjchjchj: cool02:42
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weob6800 ultra02:42
mustard5ScatterBrain, there is a way02:42
SuseUXweo, they uninstall both packages?02:42
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SuseUXweob, you uninstall both packages?02:42
weobwhat both packages?02:42
weobnvidia-glx ?02:42
weobi thought that was the only one02:42
ScatterBrainmustard5: Please enlighten us.02:42
SuseUXthe nvidia-glx and common02:42
weoboh and common02:43
weobotherwise that might cause the error?02:43
mustard5I thought it would work the way it explains on the wiki02:43
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SuseUXmaybe but you need to make sure the nvidia module it unloaded02:43
ScatterBrain!wiki02:43
mustard5https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:43
weobyes02:43
SuseUXis*02:43
mustard5the first paragraph talks about installing from CD and synaptic02:43
weobk gonna reboot and try that - thanks02:43
SuseUXlsmod shouldn't show nvidia02:44
weobwill let you know if it works02:44
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SuseUXwebono reboot02:44
SuseUXno02:44
adilhi02:44
weobno reboot needed after update ?02:44
budluvahow safe is the universe repo in breezy?02:44
SuseUXweob, rebooting dont do anything02:44
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weobhaha ok02:44
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SuseUXnot Windows02:44
mustard5budluva, safe is a relative word02:44
weobwell that's all ive been used to02:44
Razor-Xchjchjchj: again, PM me if I don't respond immediately, because i'm also surfing the web02:44
Razor-Xchjchjchj: plus, I can't stay _too_ much longer, I have the PSAT to study for02:45
SuseUXweob, you only need to reboot after installing a new kernel, thats all02:45
weoboh ok cool02:45
tristanmikeweob, generally a reboot should only be needed when dealing with kernel upgrades, but software and updates, nah, don't need it02:45
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weobhave you ever tried suspend to ram - is it very stable or you dont recommend with a beta release ?02:45
fryfrogso i have double clicked on a desktop applet and it makes my mouse pointer into a little fist and... for the life of me, i can't figure out what its supposed to do or how to turn it *off* (the keyboard still behaves as normal)02:45
foxgamerSuseUX: I have managed to get it reading the file, but now I get 'cannot open share object file: error 40'02:46
Razor-Xfryfrog: what applet?02:46
axeusweob: I'm sure it works just fine.02:46
weobmy kernel has been updated though so i will need to reboot :D02:46
fryfrogi think it was on the cpu freq scale applet02:46
SuseUXfoxgamer, thats too bad :-)02:46
fryfrogthough i was hoping it would let me drag it arround to re arrange02:46
axeusweob: I don't use it though... I use Suspend to Drive02:46
foxgamerhehe02:46
fryfrogi just can't find any way of getting out of what ever mode it is in, mainly cause i dunno what its doing!02:47
weobstill faster bootup?02:47
SuseUXweob, make sure you do "sudo rmmod nvidia" and then run the nvidia driver script02:47
weobok02:48
chjchjchjrazor-x ok duly unimg'd and pastebin'd <you learn something new every day>  posted by zzz02:48
SuseUXthat is the couse of why it says cannot load nvidia.ko02:48
Razor-Xchjchjchj: can you get me an exact link though?02:48
chjchjchjrazor-x 39179602:49
Razor-Xchjchjchj: not number, but URL :P02:49
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miksui have a very bad feeling. all the years with struggling02:49
chjchjchjrazor-x http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=39179602:49
miksuwith windows and now everything works02:49
Razor-Xchjchjchj: thanks much02:49
neoliminalcan someone point me to a wiki or tell me how to configure/start zope in ubuntu?02:49
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miksuthis is strange02:50
mustard5fryfrog, restart gnome-applets?02:50
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N17R0how can I make a startmenu shortcut to make "/etc/init.d/proftpd start" execute?02:50
fryfrogi'll just restart X when synaptic is done :)02:50
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mustard5hehehe02:51
fryfrogjust wondering if anyone knew what that little fistie guy was02:51
chjchjchjcan't wait to get this thing installed so I can use a decent IRC client and actually see wtf is going on :-)02:51
mustard5that'll do it :D02:51
fryfrognew kernel got cpu scaling to work, but broke boot splash prettyness :(02:51
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RouninHm... I'm unable to compile anything because /lib/cpp fails sanity check and I lack i-486-linux-lots-of-stuff... How do I fix that?02:51
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RouninI've installed everything I could think of02:51
SuseUXRonald, install gcc02:51
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mustard5Rounin, build-essential ?02:52
RouninI have gcc....02:52
RouninOh, thanks... I was hoping there'd be such a package02:52
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shekhargreetings, can anyone help me out with openafs and kerberos?02:52
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: can you try using loadlin on the ``linux'' kernel of the first boot-image?02:52
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chjchjchjrazor-x sure, and do what else when I get there? initrd?02:53
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gleesondI'm having trouble making a makefile02:53
mustard5what are you installing gleesond ?02:53
gleesondMPlayer02:54
Razor-Xchjchjchj: yeah, put it into /dev/ram, and also specify the initrd02:54
mustard5isnt that available through synaptic?02:54
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bytterok.. anyone got a clue why the hell I can't access my ntfs partition without being root?02:54
Razor-Xgleesond: you're getting it from CVS?02:54
bytterBUT I can access a FAT32 partition :P02:55
gleesondI don't know what synaptic is.... does it  always come with the codecs02:55
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chjchjchjrazor-x which initrd?02:55
Razor-Xbytter: try ``sudo mount /dev/ntfs/partition /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs -o umask=0222''02:55
rob_pN17R0:  Did you figure it out yet?02:55
gleesondI got it off their website02:55
mustard5I can show you how to get codecs and install via synatpic02:55
NoUse!ntfs02:55
ubotu[ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.02:55
ThomasMbytter: I remember hitting that barrier and fixing it, but not how.  It had to do with setting read and write bits in the mount command, like Razor-X just pointed out.02:55
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bytterhmmm02:55
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: initrd.gz02:55
mustard5use synaptic instead02:55
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: if the initrd doesen't work, try unzipping the gz file02:55
KarasuHi all02:55
VoXwhen is libdrm going to be put back in to breezy?02:55
bytterThomasM, Razor-X: Can I put that umask in /etc/fstab?02:55
mustard5!tell gleesond about restricted formats02:56
ThomasMbytter: Yep. That's a standard mount option.02:56
Karasuanyone knows when 5.10 will be final?02:56
sector10is there simple home networking in ubuntu, like between 2 ubuntu boxes?02:56
chjchjchjrazor-x np; the initrd from the root img yeah?02:56
Razor-Xbytter: yeah, you sohuld be able to02:56
joe__i need a repository that can help me get this package E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame02:56
ThomasMbytter: After 'noauto' or whahatever, just type ',umask=0222'.02:56
mustard5!tell gleeson about synaptic02:56
Razor-Xchjchjchj: yeah, same with the root.img's ``linux''02:56
ThomasM!fstab02:56
ubotuThomasM: What?02:56
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bytterThomasM, Razor-X: ok, testing...02:56
mustard5gleeson..ubotu should have some answers for you02:57
Razor-Xgleesond: you can install mplayer with synaptic/apt-get/aptitude, or compile it yourself02:57
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gleesondI know about ristricted formats thats why I;m trying to install MPlayer from sorce code02:57
ThomasMbytter: It'd probably read something like "ro,umask=0222" in column 4 (options) of /etc/fstab.02:57
Razor-Xgleesond: win32codecs is a package in the universe repository that contains the codecs02:57
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Razor-Xgleesond: errr w32codecs02:57
mustard5the instructions for getting win32codecs is there02:57
gleesondbut when I sudo ./make02:57
bytterThomasM, sweet! it worked :P thx guys!02:57
N17R0rob_p: No I did not yet figure it out02:57
gleesondit doesn't work02:57
foxgamerSuseUX: So any ideas where I can go from here?02:58
ThomasMgleesond: There are also repositories that contain mplayer for debian/ubuntu with all options compiled in.02:58
Razor-Xgleesond: how doesen't it work?02:58
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joe__can anyone help?02:58
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Razor-XThomasM: hmm, there are? I compiled it myself with a few extra features and codecs02:58
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gleesondcommand not found02:58
chjchjchjrazor-x; not enough memory thru the shell; I can boot to dos and do it; any other instructions when I get there?02:58
bytterwhat are the mask for read-write?02:58
SuseUXfoxgamer, not sure02:58
mustard5gleesond, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:58
bytter*is*02:58
ThomasMgleesond: It's not recommended, as installing from outside repositories can conflict with in-repositories, but you'll find more data at http://debian.video.free.fr/02:58
bytter0333?02:58
bytter(fat32.. ntfs is compiled without write support)02:59
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: only that you should try and copy initrd.gz and inflate it, in case loadlin can't read compressed ``initrd'' files02:59
ThomasMRazor-X: See that link I just posted.  I've installed mplayer on Debian Sarge/Sid and Ubuntu Hoary using that repository.02:59
foxgamerSuseUX: Okay. Thanks for your help though. I'll have a look/ask around and see if I can solve it02:59
Razor-Xbytter: the umask is the opposite of the chmod user-bit02:59
SuseUXnp02:59
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joe__SuseUX, i am having a hard time with multimedia codecs, i can't get this install to happen E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame02:59
joe__, i've already set up my repositories and backports but i still can't get the file02:59
bytterRazor-X, oh... so for 111 is 000?02:59
chjchjchjrazor-x the gz'd initrd will work - the ubunto one did...but where will I get to when I run it?02:59
miksuhttp://www.di.fm/                            declared by miksu with my recommend for the online party channel - try out vocal trance, no playing la luna-fallin03:00
Razor-Xbytter: not really, 000 is 77703:00
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joe__does any one have a good repository for this?03:00
ThomasMRazor-X,gleesond: You'll probably want to use the 'sid' repositories.03:00
VoXwhen is libdrm going to be put back in to breezy?03:00
bytterRazor-X, 777 is 111 111 111 :P I was thinking in bits :P03:00
mustard5you on breezy, joe__ ?03:00
joe__no hoary03:00
mustard5k03:00
mustard5did you add marillat repo?03:00
Razor-Xchjchjchj: well, it should ask you for another floppy, and if you can, try and provide the location of boot.img03:00
eyequeueum, expecting changes to breezy at this hour?03:01
joe__no03:01
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joe__give me uri?03:01
Razor-Xchjchjchj: if the installer starts, tell me, if it can't find the file, tell me, if it doesen't load, tell me :P03:01
mustard5did you follow the instructions?03:01
Razor-Xbytter: I understood :P03:01
joe__yes03:01
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SuseUXseems some updated will not download03:01
chjchjchjrazor-x; ok wilco...bbl03:01
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joe__i went thru the adding repos in unoffical03:01
rob_pN17R0:  Right-click on the taskbar and select, "Add to Panel."  Then select, "Custom Application Launcher."03:01
ThomasMjoe__: http://debian.video.free.fr/03:01
SuseUXupdates*03:01
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mustard5the instructions show you how to add marillat03:01
zucchi3I get this message anytime I try to install a program using apt-get  ---  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )03:01
zucchi3E: Unable to lock the list directory03:01
joe__<deb http://debian.video.free.fr> ?03:02
eyequeuezucchi3:  are you running as root/sudo?03:02
mustard5you have synaptic open zucchi3 ?03:02
ThomasMzucchi3: Required root priv's.03:02
tristanmikezucchi3, do you have synaptic?03:02
gleesondI don't understand how to acsess the outside repositorys03:02
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jrattner1gleesond, synaptic or apt-get03:02
zucchi3?? I have synaptic, but it's not open03:02
occyWelp, I reckon it'll be here when I wake up.03:02
occylater gang03:02
mustard5run the command as sudo then03:02
tristanmikecurses mustard5! :P03:02
N17R0rob_p: I know how to add a launcher, but I need the correct parameters or command to put, so proftpd is executed03:02
gleesonddoes synaptic have MPlayer?03:03
eyequeuezucchi3:  what is the commandline you ran?03:03
mustard5what did I do? :)03:03
jrattner1gleesond, yes03:03
rob_pN17R0:  For the command field, put, "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start".03:03
gleesondthats the one I dont understanf03:03
gleesondunderstand03:03
zucchi3apt-get install torcs03:03
jrattner1gleesond, synaptic is under system menu in KDE and gnome03:03
rob_pN17R0:  ...or whatever works at the command prompt.03:03
eyequeuezucchi3:  sudo apt-get install torcs03:03
ThomasMgleesond: It will after you add the proper repositories.03:03
N17R0rob_p: I have now this command, it seems to work: sudo urxvt -e /etc/init.d/proftpd stop03:03
ScatterBrainIs Breezy's offical backports up and running yet?03:03
mustard5ScatterBrain, not that I know of03:04
rob_pN17R0:  Then put that command in...03:04
joe__ThomasM, can i get thru apt-get? or dl and unpackage it?03:04
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Razor-XN17R0: .... can't you just use sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd stop ?03:04
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ScatterBrainmustard5: Hmmm.  Wonder how much borkage that's gonna cause.03:04
zucchi3I git it thanks!03:04
ThomasMjoe__: You just have to add lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then 'apt-get update'.  You'll want to 'apt-cache search mplayer' to then see what's available, or just use synaptic.03:04
N17R0rob_p: hmm I tryed "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start"  but once the sudo timer is expiered, then that command wont work anymore03:05
rob_pN17R0:  as Razor-X said, /etc/init.d/proftpd stop should work.03:05
ThomasMThere's also a good guide for installing mplayer on Debian Etch at http://www.princessleia.com/MPlayer.html which should be very similar, if not the same, in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy.03:05
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joe__ThomasM, i added that line to my sources.list but i get a "list of sources could not be read"03:05
ThomasMThat guide is for installing from source.03:05
Razor-XN17R0: sudo -s then03:05
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ThomasMjoe__: Sounds like you mal-formed your sources.list.  Want to paste it in the pastebin?03:05
willertFinally some words from one of the bigwigs (Kamion in -devel):  fridge has an interesting idea of when the release is - interesting but wrong (time-wise - it's right date-wise)03:05
ThomasM!tell joe__ about pastebin03:06
jrattner1is breezy getting released at 12?03:06
willertSounds like I'll be getting some sleep before the actual release :(03:06
rob_pN17R0:  Then add, "your_username     ALL= NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/proftpd" to your /etc/sudoers file...03:06
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ThomasMjrattner1: Should have been released a little over an hour ago.  No news yet, then?03:06
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Razor-XThomasM: can you leave a message for me for chjchjchj?03:06
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N17R0rob_p: thx I will try that03:07
ThomasMRazor-X: Hrm?03:07
Hansdamn:03:07
HansUbuntu 5.10 Final Release03:07
HansStart: 2005-10-13 00:0003:07
HansEnd: 2005-10-13 23:5903:07
Razor-XThomasM: when he returns on the channel, can you tell him that ``i'm studying for my PSAT, so if you could contact me tomorrow with the results, then that would be great''03:07
ThomasMRazor-X: I guess so.  I can't guarantee I'll be on much longer myself.  Doesn't NICKSERV send messages?03:07
Hansso it can take 24 hours03:07
jrattner1ThomasM, its not getting released till the 13th03:07
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Hanshttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/503:07
Razor-XThomasM: does it?03:07
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eyequeuefridge node 5 has been changed!03:07
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ThomasMjrattner1: GMT it's currently the 13th.03:07
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eyequeueThu Oct 13 01:08:10 UTC 200503:08
gleesondhow do I install the universal repository that has the codecs?03:08
resetuhello03:08
joe__ThomasM, ok i sent it03:08
jrattner1ThomasM, interesting i didnt think bout that03:08
ThomasMjoe__: Did it give you a link to hand out?03:08
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joe__no i'm sorry03:08
joe__ehe03:08
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eyequeueubotu:  tell gleesond about repos03:08
joe__ThomasM, ok i sent it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/303103:09
Razor-XThomasM: hmm, as far as I can see, NickServ won't send messages03:09
dreifingerWhere is the Final!! ??03:09
XTR-II:(03:09
resetuanybody can tell me,where is this bbs03:09
chjchjchjrazor-x ok, it asked for country and locale, then sugg I needed to load drivers from a floppy, but wanted a real floppy not an image, so I had to cancel that, and it gave me the main debian install menu. I chose abort.03:09
crimsunsee the topic, dreifinger03:09
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eyequeueRazor-X:, ThomasM: /msg MemoServ help03:09
Razor-Xchjchjchj: ooh, excellent, we're getting somethere :P03:09
Razor-Xeyequeue: ahhh, MemoServ :P03:09
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DShepherdwhat time zone is Ubuntu in03:09
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ThomasMeyequeue: Ah. Thank you.03:09
HansDShepherd: GMT03:10
eyequeueno prob gentlemen03:10
Razor-Xchjchjchj: s/somethere/somewhere/03:10
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Hansit can take 21 hours to complete full releases03:10
erickHi guys03:10
joe__hi03:10
resetuwhat is the difference between debian and ubuntu03:10
Razor-Xchjchjchj: can you feed it a partition?03:10
chjchjchjrazor-x; yeah...somethere would be nice tho ;-)03:10
Spittyhey everyone03:10
joe__hi03:10
Hanscheck http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/503:10
DShepherdHans: Great. So by 12:01 the brown sugar should be here..right :)?03:10
ScatterBrain! BreezyUpgrade03:10
ubotuScatterBrain: I give up, what is it?03:10
Hanslol DShepherd03:10
miksuwow real good trance03:10
eyequeueresetu:  different goals, different organizations, a few03:10
HansI'm waiting too :S03:10
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: getting the gist of my idea?03:10
windexim waiting to see how broken my tablet pc will be when i upgrade03:11
joe__ThomasM, did you get that link?03:11
eyequeueresetu:  ubuntu has a 6-month release cycle03:11
RouninHey, I just built a bunch of .deb packages, but how do I install them?03:11
eyequeueRounin:  dpkg -i *.deb03:11
ThomasMjoe__: Sorry. A lot clamoring for my attention. Looking at it now.03:11
mustard5joe__, I had a look at it. You haven't added the marillat repo yet03:11
chjchjchjrazor-x...kinda...I could try to proceed with the install...but dunno if it has drivers it needs...I guess, what, you want to get base debian running first?03:11
ericktry this dpkg -i <packages name>03:11
DShepherdHans: I think I shaking....I cant go on ,...need new ubuntu..needd U..B.....(fades)03:11
jrattner1Hans, im waiting too, im excited i cant wait for kbluetooth : ) and the new wireless network tools03:11
resetuthanks ,can you tell me which is a little for a new linuxer03:11
RouninThanks eyequeue... Will this make apt-get aware of them as well though?03:11
eyequeueRounin:  sudo of course03:11
joe__mustard5, how do i do that?03:11
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ThomasMjoe__: You started to add it, but didn't add enough.  That last line doesn't contain enough information/03:11
resetui have tried many versions, ubuntu is not bad03:12
eyequeueRounin:  after they are --install'ed, apt dpkg synaptic aptitude, all will be aware of them03:12
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RouninThanks a lot eyequeue03:12
MrGnashI know this is an improper question, but does anyone know roughly how long until Breezy will be available from the website?03:12
ThomasMjoe__: Rather than the 'debian.video' stuff at the bottom, you need to have 'deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main'03:12
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: here's my idea: you use loadlin to boot the boot.bin kernel, but before that, create a partition with only free space, write the floppy image of root.bin to the new partition using dd, then specify this partition to the Debian installer03:12
arghetlamResetu - I concur, even though I've never run any Linux build in my life. . .03:12
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ThomasMjoe__: If you have any problems with that, replace 'etch' with 'sid'.  I think Ubuntu's based off of sid, so that might be the best route.03:13
sector10where do i add my windows partition? is it mnt?03:13
joe__ThomasM, thanks03:13
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: after that, you can get a very basic Debian netinstall going. Go along with the steps to get a basic Debian netinstall finished. Then, boot Debian, edit the sources.list for Ubuntu sources instead, and then simply apt-get the new stuff, and you'll have an Ubuntu box :P03:13
mustard5etch is good03:13
resetuoh, where are you03:13
axeusCrap.... what's that Nintento emulator ... err03:13
axeusI forgot the name.03:13
Razor-Xchjchjchj: like I said, it's a totall untested/improvised idea03:13
SuseUXsector10, anywhere you want03:13
axeusNes03:13
Razor-Xs/totall/totally/03:13
axeusNesZ orsomething...03:13
adilhello03:13
axeusNeZs.. i dunno03:13
ThomasMaxeus: zsnes?03:14
arghetlamAxeus - Nesten? Nesticle?03:14
axeusYes! Thanks. :)03:14
chjchjchjrazor-x; sounds like a plan, yeah. will go play with partitions...given current parts, do you suggest I wipe and re-create the big ext3 part?03:14
ThomasMaxeus: Or snes?03:14
resetui can not unstandstand you the last word03:14
axeuszsnes03:14
sector10SuseUX: sure but you can break things that way03:14
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: nope, just create a partition as big as a normal floppy would be (1.44 MB), and write root.img using dd03:14
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Razor-Xchjchjchj: I may not be in, because i'm studying for my PSAT, if i'm not, either PM, leave a message with MemoServ, or both :P03:14
SuseUXsector10, says who?03:14
joe__ThomasM, ok i did taht both ways but it says i need a public key?03:15
arghetlamHey, I hate to sound like a n00b, but can someone help me with the command to run a shell script?03:15
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sector10SuseUX: if you add it to /home/user try it..03:15
ThomasMRazor-X: You can also use 'debootstrap', but that's a bit more complicated.  Fun, though.  It's nice to design your fully working system without booting to it, and then the go through the joy of a moment-of-truth boot.03:15
chjchjchjrazor-x ok, I get the idea. will let you know. cheers again, happy studies03:15
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resetuare you busy,03:15
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sector10SuseUX: under disk utility in system you will lose sudo03:15
SuseUXsector10, I was thinking anywhere in the/ tree03:16
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mustard5arghetlam, ./<shellscriptname>03:16
yescan i use debian repos for ubuntu?03:16
arghetlamThanks.03:16
resetuok, thanks, 8803:16
ThomasMyes: Sort of.  Rather unwise, at times.03:16
tristanmikeyes, it's not recommended03:16
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m0biu5if I download a tarball of fonts (from gnome-look.org), where would I extract them to to use them03:16
sector10SuseUX: ok yes, anywhere but home/user i rekon03:16
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drijendang, ton of users03:16
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yesthanx :)03:16
ScatterBrainyes: I tried that a couple of weeks ago.  Result was borked setup --> reinstall.03:17
ScatterBrainyes: I'd recommend against it.03:17
Lickeris there an easy way to remove whole programs03:17
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drijenLicker: apt-get remove --purge03:17
ThomasMyes: What is it that you need from debian's repository?  Have you checked the 'universe' or 'multiverse' repositories first?03:17
nix4mewill 5.10 be on mirrors by tomorrow morning?03:17
SuseUXsector10, /windows would be a good choice :-)03:17
mustard5Licker, depends how they are installed03:17
ScatterBrainLicker: "sudo apt-get --purge remove [app name] "03:17
gustavorhow do I get powernow to work with amd64 with a 386 compiled kernel?03:17
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ThomasMnix4me: I'd count on it by 8:00P EST tomorrow.03:17
SuseUXsector10, but yes /mnt is the prefered way03:17
drijeni have mad instability and shutdown/reboot issues over here, if any cares to help03:18
gustavorusing breezy03:18
yesThomasM: i think i didn't find azureus03:18
Lickerfor some reason I have 2 instances of php4 and 1 of php503:18
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sector10SuseUX:  yes, i was hinting only that the disk utility is a problem, dont you think03:18
JohnP789Anybody used ivtv for commandline recording?03:18
ThomasMyes: Azureus is a simple tarball of a java package.  If you have java installed, you don't have to do a thing to run azureus.03:18
drijenyes, azureous is an elf binary, not a program03:18
Drauconq time03:18
Lickerso i wanna remove them all and reinstall php403:18
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mustard5Licker, all installed through synaptic?03:18
sector10SuseUX:  it defaults to home directory, i think thats bad for new users with windows thats all03:19
bytterok guys... 2:20 here... got to sleep03:19
yesi am new to this repo stuff. so i am somewhat clueless about what to search where03:19
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ScatterBrain22% @ 125Kb/s.  The Breezy servers must be getting hammered!03:19
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gleesondSynaptic is pritty sweet!03:19
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byttertake care ppl! bye!03:19
ThomasMLicker: You can do that all in one swoop from synaptic.  Tell it to reinstall the version you want, and uninstall the ones you don't.03:19
sector10SuseUX:  just ranting! nevermind,03:19
mustard5gleesond, it is03:19
LickerOhh. allright,.03:20
Lickerthanx all03:20
drijenanyone else have init 6 issues?03:20
SuseUXsector10, not sure but to Linux it's just another filesystem, I assume it dont matter where it is03:20
HobbseeScatterBrain: i find that around normal when dist upgrading, at least a few weeks ago...03:20
ThomasMLicker: If you want every last config file removed, you can also tell synaptic to "completely remove" but keep in mind that it does do so.03:20
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ThomasMdrijen: What happens when you 'init 6'?03:20
qmbhi03:20
HobbseeScatterBrain: but that could easily be my connection03:21
_native_reboot03:21
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drijenThomasM: i was referrign to its inability to shutdown or reboot03:21
ThomasM_native_: I know that.  The point is that he said he's having issues.03:21
ThomasMdrijen: What point does it fail?03:21
sricciIs there an easy way to upgrade my already existing 5.04 to 5.10 via cli?03:21
drijenThomasM: sighups all programs like normal, then hangs03:21
ScatterBrainHobbsee: I normally get around 300Kb/s on my connection.  So I'm guessing the pipe is being used a bit more than normal.03:21
drijenThomasM: on reboot, screen blanks, and sits03:21
mustard5sricci, yes03:22
ThomasMsricci: change your /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get dist-upgrade'03:22
drijenThomasM: on shutdown it  just sits03:22
_native_breezy?03:22
eyequeueis there a canonical (no pun intended) url for "ubuntu mirrors list"?  i'm writing an article and would like to point to it03:22
_native_breezy has had issues with reboot.03:22
ThomasMdrijen: If you power it down and back up manually, does it run a fsck check on drives?03:22
Lickerwell i want to uninstall everything thats server side03:22
drijennegative03:22
mustard5!tell sricci about BreezyUpgrade03:22
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HobbseeScatterBrain: nice!03:22
miksudownload speeds grow up to 6 kbs compared to windows in breezy..compare, 103 > 10903:22
drijenThomasM: negative, has a clean tree - resierfs03:22
crainteso there's a new slackware release right?03:23
ThomasMdrijen: Sounds like it's just not aware how to do a soft poweroff.  I'd check your power management settings in the BIOS.03:23
sriccimustard5: that didn't work03:23
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drijencrainte: 102.03:23
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mustard5!tell sricci about breezyupgrade03:23
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mustard5stupid bot :)03:23
sriccihah03:23
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kbrooksmustard5: upgrade2breezy03:23
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ThomasMdrijen: Like on some of my virtual machines.  Some of them know how to turn off the computer, and some don't.  But usually I get a message that says 'Power down.' or such when the shutdown is complete.03:23
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kbrookswrong factoid03:23
mustard5 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:23
drijenThomasM: the acpi patches do fine, the BIOS calls are generally immune03:23
mustard5:D03:23
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ScatterBrainsricci: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:24
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sriccithanks mustard503:24
crainte102?03:24
drijencrainte: 10.203:24
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drijencrainte: was using it an hour ago03:24
ScatterBrainsricci: I think that's what mustard5 was tying to tell you.03:24
ThomasMdrijen: And this even happens on reboot? Not just shutdown?03:24
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crainteyou were using slack an hour ago? what happened?03:24
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drijenThomasM: correct03:24
ScatterBrainubotu: BreezyUpgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:24
ubotuokay, ScatterBrain03:24
gleesondwhat was it w32... for the codecs?03:24
ScatterBrain! BrezzyUpgrade03:24
ubotuScatterBrain: What?03:24
drijenThomasM: plus i have TONS of lockups for no reson03:24
ScatterBrain! BreezyUpgrade03:25
ubotuhmm... breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:25
drijengleesond: mplayerhq.hu03:25
Rouningleesond: The win32codecs for mplayer?03:25
RouninYeah, there's a link there03:25
ScatterBrainheh03:25
ThomasMdrijen: Hrm. You'll probably need wiser brains than mine.  Stock kernel, with proper architecture specified?03:25
chjchjchjrazor-x; still there? having thought about your plan, I see a problem. The deb install was asking for a FLOPPY only...it did not give any option to choose from a partition or image etc03:25
drijenThomasM: indeed03:25
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drijenThomasM: i've thought about throwing my own kernel into it03:25
drijenThomasM: no other distro has this issue03:25
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joe__ThomasM, ok i did taht both ways but it says i need a public key?03:25
ThomasMdrijen: Linux computers should not lock up.  :P03:25
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drijenThomasM: yeah, no kidding03:25
craintelies03:25
craintelinux has bluescreens03:26
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drijenThomasM: programs mebbe, but NEVER the kernel03:26
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kevogodI've never seen a bluescreen.03:26
Rouninkernel panic anyone03:26
nix4memy linux computers have never locked up03:26
craintebluescreen is hardware i believe03:26
ThomasMdrijen: Off-hand chance: would you be willing to subject it to a memtest86 for a few hours?03:26
drijenRounin: kernel panics only happen when you jack with it03:26
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_native_only userland stuff has locked on my03:26
HrdwrBobcrainte: drivers, more often than not03:26
drijenThomasM: yes03:26
RouninAh03:26
nix4meyep03:26
_native_*me03:26
drijenThomasM: have done so already03:26
drijenThomasM: clean03:26
crainteeh, my hand was in it and i didn't turn it off03:26
mustard5joe__, ignore that joe03:26
ThomasMdrijen: What other distros work?03:27
crainteminislack03:27
drijenThomasM: all 300 of them03:27
nix4methey all work03:27
drijenThomasM: i get bored....03:27
ompwill breezy even be released today? :x03:27
joe__ok but it says some of the packages were broken03:27
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ThomasMjoe__: You can import the key, but I'm not remembering how.  mustard5's right in saying that you can ignore the message.03:27
drijenThomasM: my main distros are slack and crux03:27
mustard5which ones joe__03:27
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SuperQThomasM: heh.. linux shouldn't lock up, but it does sometimes03:27
drijenjesus this is a heavy chan03:28
foxgamerSuseUX: Just thought I would let you know, the problem with libtcl that I've been having? It's actually a problem with the program. Typical! :)03:28
joe__let me paste it03:28
mustard5k03:28
gleesondcan some one help me find a repository that will have MPlayer with the codecs installed?03:28
chjchjchjrazor-x ping?03:28
mustard5in #flood?03:28
ThomasMdrijen: Yep. I'm having to run full-screen 10pt to keep up.03:28
drijengleesond: lazy03:28
drijengleesond: go d/l them, sheesh03:28
SuseUXfoxgamer, yer, tipical :-)03:28
drijenThomasM: reminds me of warez chns03:28
Rouningleesond: The w32codecs probably aren't in any repositories03:28
SuperQgleesond: you want the w32codecs package03:28
sandyeggoboymustard5 -- i am FINALLY back, my+03:28
ThomasMgleesond: Did you not try the marillat/debian.video.free.fr repository that we mentioned earlier?03:28
drijenmustard5: use pastebin03:28
RouninOh, never mind :P03:28
mustard5hehe sandyeggoboy03:28
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gleesondno I just installed 3 debian and it wasn't there03:29
MrGnashI'm finding it hard to wait for the final Breezy release - would downloading the daily build then upgrading be a safe option?03:29
mustard5how did it go sandyeggoboy ?03:29
sandyeggoboywireless is &^%$&^%$& ed u03:29
ThomasMdrijen: Yep. I'm bored, so I'm in here trying to be helpful.  Keeps me busy.  :)03:29
drijengleesond: for FS! takes 3 whole seconds by hand03:29
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gleesondsorry03:29
drijenThomasM: your welcome in my home chan anytime :)03:29
sandyeggoboyi am not sure .... i lost pretty much everything i was supposed to send you03:29
mustard5ah ok..no luck with internet03:29
sagar_does anyonw have any idea why my system clock would be too fast03:29
_native_whats wrong with your wireless?03:29
ThomasMdrijen: It's not listed in your /whois.03:29
mustard5you read the howto's on wireless sandyeggoboy ?03:29
drijenThomasM: sorry, i'mnot there03:29
thelusivi'm still running warty :(03:29
arghetlamUmm, yeah. I'm having a problem running a shell script. Still. I must be retarted or something. . .03:29
sandyeggoboyyeah03:30
sandyeggoboyi read it03:30
joe__mustard5, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/303203:30
mustard5k joe__03:30
ThomasMdrijen: In regard to your problem, I have no idea.  The only thing I know of that can cause frequent lockups like yours, other than a truly malconfigured kernel, is memory issues.03:30
drijenThomasM: i think i'll go back to slack :)03:30
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ThomasMdrijen: I _try_ to help, but I'm just a code monkey.  You might seen one off to the main mailing list.03:30
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SuperQgleesond: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main03:30
drijenThomasM: wait until breezy stabilizes, try again03:30
_native_so whats wrong, what chip? etc....03:30
ThomasMdrijen: No!!! For the love of God!  /me backs down from holy war.03:30
willertMrGnash: No should be no problem at all, go ahead.03:30
SuseUXdrijen,  :-), sounds like a no so bad idea03:31
drijenThomasM: lol03:31
Icarushi all03:31
drijenhi03:31
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Icarusanyone here using the new version of ubuntu??03:31
_native_sandyeggboy?03:31
drijenme03:31
arghetlamI am.03:31
VoXwhen is libdrm going to be put back in to breezy?03:31
benkong2!flash-player03:31
ubotubenkong2: I haven't a clue03:31
mustard5it looks ok when you ran it the second time joe__03:31
kevogodIs anyone here using a computer?03:31
joe__ok03:31
joe__sweet03:31
drijenkevogod: nope03:31
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joe__i'll move on to the next line03:31
Icaruscool! do you guys have ati cards?03:31
drijenkevogod: i use an internet appliacne03:31
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benkong2!flash03:31
ubotusomebody said flash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:31
drijenIcarus: unfortunatly, yes03:31
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arghetlamKevgod - I have an ethernet cable running out of my ear.03:32
drijenkevogod: i have netrisca03:32
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Icarusdrijen: is your ati card working properly? I am trying to run RTCW:ET but its sooooooooo slow!!!03:32
kevogodarghetlam, Are you running NetBSD?03:32
mustard5joe__, your using the sid repo now?03:32
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drijenIcarus: ATI + linux = give up03:32
theinternare the directions in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes going to have pretty much the same effect as just installing it? (what im really asking would it better to do a clean install or upgrading is fine)03:32
dreifingerhmmz... satan is joining #ubuntu03:32
Icaruslol03:32
kevogoddrijen, Yes, that is why I got it working after 5 minutes.03:32
drijenThomasM: man, this is like #mepis :)03:32
dreifingeruh i had to type natas :+03:33
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ThomasMdrijen: Hrm? For activity, or under some other quantifier?03:33
IcarusI think I need a new graphics card altogther :p03:33
sector10my computer wont reboot for some reason03:33
benkong2!breezy repos03:33
ubotubenkong2: Do they come in packets of five?03:33
sector10it will shut down though03:33
drijenThomasM: i was around when mepis was created, then it turned into a noob madhouse03:33
ThomasMsector10: Does it just go to a blank screen and not do anything, or does it stop during the runlevel switch?03:33
arghetlamKevogod - whatever ubunto 5.04 is running.03:33
drijenThomasM: fun times :)03:33
benkong2!repos03:33
ubotufrom memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:33
VoXwhen is libdrm going to be put back in to breezy?03:34
sandyeggoboyok, mustard5, here it is again: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/303303:34
kevogodarghetlam, The joke went right over you. :-)03:34
drijenVoX: ask a dev03:34
ThomasMdrijen: I'm a Undernet #linux regular.  I'm having a hard time adjusting to a channel where spoonfeeding's allowed, but it seems to be working.03:34
VoXdrijen: where's one to ask03:34
mustard5k sandyeggoboy03:34
drijenVoX: ubuntu-dev i think03:34
crimsunVoX: what are you talking about?03:34
sector10ThomasM: thanks and hi! it goes down a little to a black screen, then i have to hit power button03:34
drijenVoX: i'm not a regular03:34
crimsunlibdrm1 is in main.03:34
ThomasMdrijen: I'm usually an anti-newb, so I'm trying to open up my horizons.03:34
drijensector10: i have the same issue03:34
ThomasMsector10: Talk to drijen and compare symptoms.03:34
drijensector10: pm me03:34
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arghetlamkevogod - more than likely. Basicially, I tried to run a shell script that's on my desktop through the terminal, and it said that it couldn't find it.03:34
mustard5sandyeggoboy, I would try making a new directory in /mnt and trying to mount hdc6 on to that03:35
drijenThomasM: sweet, i'm not the only one03:35
crimsunnew users are part of the community, too.03:35
ThomasMdrijen,sector10: Standard debugging, now.  What do you two have in common?03:35
sector10drijen: what you got for box?03:35
foxgamerAnyone having/had eggdrop/libtcl8.4.s0 problems?03:35
drijensector10: pm, too bloody busy in here03:35
willertVoX: but I think the devs are all concerned about the release right now, give them a few days or so03:35
ThomasMdrijen,sector10: I'd compare your /proc/cpu and beginning 'dmesg' listing.03:35
TylerDurdenhow come i cant get the nvidia drivers to work? i installed them from synaptic but xserver wont start upp03:35
ThomasMSorry. /proc/cpuinfo03:35
_native_"anti-noob" you'll always be a newb if you have learned anything at all.03:35
sector10right03:35
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shekharcan someone help me with building openafs modules?03:35
crimsunTylerDurden: did you follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?03:35
crimsunshekhar: sure, I'm back.03:35
TylerDurdenill try crimsun03:35
VoXcrimsun: i did an update about 12 hours ago, and something has removed libdrm, so half of my ogl apps have ceased to work03:35
willertTylerDurden: welcome back... what happend?03:36
crimsunVoX: so reinstall libdrm103:36
willertTylerDurden: You got your new kernel working?03:36
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shekharcrimsun:  hi, so i tried building the modules from source and am getting errors03:36
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TylerDurdenwillert, i didnt really try, i was messing with my nvidia drivers and couldnt boot so now im trying to get nvidia working again03:36
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ThomasM_native_: That was a simplifier message.  To put it better, the usual attitude is to help those who help themselves.  Make them read docs and man pages, and then come back when they have questions.  Most newbs refuse, hence the over-simplification.03:36
crimsunshekhar: did you install all the prerequisites?03:36
Craneh e l l o03:36
_native_yeah03:37
erickhello03:37
willertTylerDurden: ok, I got the source of the vanilla kernel, still interested?03:37
TylerDurdenthe vanilla kernel? i can just go to kernel.org and download it cant i?03:37
TylerDurdenwillert do u have aim/msn?03:37
erickwant to ask how can I add a virtual ip address03:37
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shekharcrimsun:  i installed openafs-client, openafs-modules-source and openafs-krb503:38
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VoXcrimsun: i've done that, it's still not all there03:38
ThomasM_native_: That's why I'm here.  At least reminding myself that that's not the only route to knowledge, even if I consider it the best route.03:38
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drijenThomasM: mind joining #ubuntulap?03:38
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_native_i agree03:38
shekharcrimsun:  while configuring openafs-client it told me to compile the module03:38
_native_fully03:38
ThomasMdrijen: It's a bit lonely in there.03:38
benkong2is there such a thing as breezy extras in repos?03:38
drijenThomasM: i know, i just now made it03:38
drijenThomasM: 3 way pm03:39
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crimsunshekhar: and have you?03:39
TarikBu kanalda Trk var m?03:39
drijenThomasM: sorry, #ubuntulaptop03:39
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joe__mustard5, errrrgggggg, wwin32codecs again!!!!!! jeeez.  got a backport for that and libdivx4linux?03:39
mustard5sandyeggoboy, I put a note on the bottom of the page http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/303403:39
shekharcrimsun:  getting errors when compiling with module-assistant03:39
Rev-MarcGreetings all , being new to using bittorrent is it normal for the window to remain open after the file reaches 100% ?03:39
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VoXcrimsun: is there a way to back-trace which package update did the damage?03:39
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mustard5what is the error joe__ ?03:40
crimsunshekhar: (1) you need to use a package manager to install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential03:40
auk!info ifolder breezy03:40
auk:(03:40
GatoMoteadohelp....new ubuntu user....totem won't play WMV files.....what do i do?03:40
sandyeggoboyok, i will try that now03:40
shekharcrimsun:  module-assistant does that automatically03:41
erickguys what will be my entry in /etc/networking/interfaces to add a virtual ip03:41
nix4meGatoMoteado: pray03:41
kevogod!tell GatoMoteado about w32codecs03:41
GatoMoteado:(03:41
joe__mustard5,  E: Couldn't find package win32codecs03:41
nix4mew32codecs might help too03:41
shekharcrimsun:  i installed the headers successfully03:41
chickenmongerRev-Marc: Yes, once you have downloaded 100% of the file, you continue uploading pieces of the file to others until you close the client.03:41
miksugatomoteado totem did not play shoutcast either..i believe a better choice is zinf which you can install via synaptic packace manager03:41
GatoMoteadook03:41
Rev-MarcThank You03:41
TarikFriends, Ubuntu Linux PC Standart Request(5CD) included gcc or other c/c++ compilers? sorry bad english...03:41
GatoMoteadolemme try that miksu03:41
crimsunshekhar: although module-assistant may be easier, try the debian/rules method03:42
drijensector10: #ubuntulaptop03:42
sandyeggoboynope, same error: mount: /dev/hdc6 already mounted03:42
crimsunGatoMoteado: dpkg -l totem\*|grep ^ii03:42
NeverDreamif you love Ubuntu and you love AIM, a buddy icon for you! http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/daddyoh/newbuntu.gif :)03:42
WinZTarik, yes, gcc03:42
kevogodbadgerbadgerbadger03:42
kevogod!!03:42
ubotu! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me03:42
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TarikThanks WinZ03:42
arghetlamKevogod- Basicially, what I get when I try to run the shell script, it doesn't find it.03:42
VoXGatoMoteado: vlc will play wmv, aswell as prettymuch anything that you point it at03:42
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kevogodarghetlam, What shell script?03:43
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arghetlamkevogod - The BF2 Dedicated Linux server03:43
rob_perick:  I'm not sure if you can specify IP address aliases in the config file or not.  However, it's pretty easy to write a small startup script to handle it for you.03:43
mustard5sandyeggoboy, need to find out what hdc6 is mounted too03:43
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sandyeggoboyhow to do that mustard5?03:44
bettong_BOFHi have installed a hard drive that is going to be used as a file storage drive..what file system should i use to format it?03:44
mustard5sandyeggoboy, I'm thinking... :D03:44
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mustard5sandyeggoboy, mount on its own should show all the mounted drives03:44
GatoMoteadowhere can i get vlc?03:44
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GatoMoteadoi dont see zinf in synaptic03:44
mustard5and what they are mounted to03:44
shekharcrimsun:  ok give me a few minutes, i'll try it03:44
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TylerDurdenwhen i try to use my nvidia drivers it says no kernel module found, how come?03:44
miksubettong ext 3 for linux only, i think fat32 is readable by both ubuntu and windows . for dos compatibility, use fat 16 or dos 7.1003:44
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bettong_BOFHand wherre shoud they be mounted03:44
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ompwasn't it supposed to be released like 2 hours ago?03:45
crimsunno03:45
bettong_BOFHshould i mount it a /boot?03:45
X3ndouHEY03:45
X3ndouwhens03:45
X3ndouit03:45
X3ndougetting03:45
X3ndouRELEASED!?03:45
X3ndouoh yeah03:45
bettong_BOFHi mean make the access path03:45
joe__mustard5,  did you get my message?03:45
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X3ndouand how do I make something start when ubuntu boots03:46
X3ndoufor some reason another screensaver app was set as default03:46
mustard5no joe__03:46
joe__mustard5,  E: Couldn't find package win32codecs03:46
X3ndouand xscreensaver isn't starting03:46
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mustard5ah ok..found it joe__03:46
WinZ5.10 released?03:46
sandyeggoboynope, does not show anything at all for hdc603:46
sandyeggoboyor for anything hdc at all03:46
mustard5yeah...something is amiss in your sources.list still I think joe__ `03:46
Xenguy!java03:46
ubotuI guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java03:46
joe__got a good page for backports?03:47
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mustard5sandyeggoboy, yeah thats the mystery03:47
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frank23will hoary-extras change to breezy-extras when breezy is released?03:47
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dreifingerhmmz... 625 users online in this room :+03:49
crainteall awaiting the new slackware release >_>03:50
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DonLAnyone know a good place for Warty stuff anymore? I had to revert this weekend, and I'm feeling a bit gunshy of unofficial repositories at the moment03:50
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Trashcanoops03:50
frank23dreifinger: we hit 1000 here after the hoary release03:50
Trashcanwow03:50
yojimbo-sanand all of they trying hard to not say "when is breezy out ..."03:50
Trashcan03:50
GatoMoteadoso i guess there's no easy way of playing wmv on ubuntu :(03:51
Trashcanwmv is closed03:51
Trashcanafaik03:51
bytefoow32codecs03:51
GatoMoteadoi dont see zinf or vlc in synaptic03:51
joe__gato, no there isn't :)03:51
WinZ!tell GatoMoteado about w32codecs03:51
joe__GatoMoteado, i've been trying for a week to get it to work03:51
GatoMoteadodamn03:52
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joe__WinZ, please tell me about win32codecs?03:52
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dreifingernah all of ya sleep well tonight!03:52
kevogod!tell joe_ about w32codecs03:52
WinZ!tell joe__ about w32codecs03:52
dreifingerand speek/see ya later!!03:52
ubuntu-friendsfrom ubuntu-devel: mdz rsync: write failed on "/home/mdz/cd/ubuntu/breezy-dvd-powerpc.iso": No space left on device (28)03:52
kevogodoops, my bad03:52
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Jinnhellew?03:53
axeusDoes Ubuntu come with libsdl?03:53
GatoMoteadowhere are the w32codecs?03:53
Jinno.O03:53
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WinZGatoMoteado, http://tinyurl.com/87ofx03:53
airmikeyis breezy ready or am i better off running ubuntu ?03:53
WinZGatoMoteado, download .deb03:53
kevogodBreezy = Ubuntu03:53
crimsunaxeus: yes03:53
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crimsunairmikey: what?03:53
axeuscrimsun:  out of the box?03:53
concept10What are you guys using to 'successfully' use quicktime in firefox?03:53
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melvztechiehello03:53
kevogodconcept10, MPlayer03:54
yojimbo-sanairmikey: breezy is just the latest version of Ubuntu. Wait a few hours, it'll be worth it.03:54
WinZGatoMoteado, then dpkg -i w32codecs.deb03:54
Jinnhey.. can i  install ubuntu on the same drive as my winxp?03:54
melvztechieanyone here03:54
airmikey5.04 or 5.1003:54
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joetheodd[LethAL] : Are you there?03:54
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crainte622 people in the room and you're asking if someone is here?03:54
VoX!nvidia03:54
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:54
frank23concept10: I use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension03:54
joetheoddyes crainte.03:54
ScatterBrainWow, now I'm down to 70Kb/s.03:54
crimsunaxeus: yes, since gnomemeeting depends on it, and gnomemeetings is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop03:54
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Jinnhey.. can i  install ubuntu on the same drive as my winxp?03:54
yojimbo-sanJinn: yes, if you have spare space. You might be able to defrag your drive03:54
axeuscrimsun: thanks.03:54
weobok not sure if i got 3d working or not but i did get nvidia drivers to install03:54
ScatterBrainPeople in Europe are waking up I guess.  ;-)03:54
mustard5_sandyeggoboy, ?03:54
kevogodJinn, Yes you can03:54
Jinnwell i have 80 gigs on that partition..03:54
yojimbo-sanJinn: 80gb spare?03:55
frank23weob: glxinfo | grep direct03:55
weobi installed ut2004 demo and got an error trying to run the game03:55
Jinnyeah lmao03:55
yojimbo-sanJinn: if it was a separate partition already that would be easiest03:55
Jinnwell will it all go into the install?03:55
weobsays yes03:55
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weobyes03:55
concept10frank23, and then what app are you launching?  apple.com is strict on quicktime03:55
frank23weob: then 3d acceleration should work03:55
Jinnthen i should just make a separate install tehn D:03:55
weoberror while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:55
weob03:55
stephcan anyone point me to a breezy sources.list?03:55
yojimbo-sanUbuntu takes <10Gb normally03:55
concept10frank23, I have that extension03:55
weobwhen i try to launch it03:55
frank23concept10: I use kaffeine and kmplayer03:55
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Jinnsize isnt a problem03:56
airmikeyyojimbo-san:thx03:56
concept10steph, topic03:56
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srbaker_dudes03:56
srbaker_what's the name of the panel applet that works with NetworkManager to let me choose between available WAPs, etc?03:56
arghetlamFor everything I'm getting done, I might as well be beating my head over the keyboard. . .03:56
frank23concept10: you want something that uses mplayer or xine03:56
TiMiDolol arghetlam03:56
ScatterBrainsrbaker_: wifi-radar03:56
concept10i cant believe it, 627 people in the room, growing base tonight03:56
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stephconcept10, thanks03:56
yojimbo-sanJinn: yes, if you have a spare d: partition, you can install ubuntu on that easily.03:56
weoblib sexual transmitted diseases cant have that - i duhno how to fix that one03:56
Jinnthanx a lot03:56
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arghetlamI try to run the shell script, I copy and paste the name, and. . .not found.03:56
srbaker_ScatterBrain, that's what works with networkmanager?03:57
concept10!breezy03:57
foxinessis there will be rc 2?03:57
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:57
TiMiDoarghetlam huh?03:57
ScatterBrainsrbaker_: yep03:57
sandyeggoboyyup ....03:57
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crimsunfoxiness: no, we release tomorrow/today depending on timezone.03:57
TiMiDo/j #ubuntu-devel03:57
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srbaker_uh03:57
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srbaker_it can't be run by non-root03:57
cafuego_crimsun: .. and remaining brokenness?03:57
foxinesscrimsun, ok thank you03:57
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leohi !!! guys!!!03:58
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Jinni guess i'll just partition magic up a new one @_@03:58
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stephconcept10, that sit edoesnt list backports or any of the other good ones03:58
rob_parghetlam:  What are you trying to do?  Is the script that you are trying to run, located in your path?03:58
yojimbo-sanJinn: good idea :-)03:58
sandyeggoboyi am away for dinner03:58
stephubuntuguide.org lists lots more, are thoes not available for brreezy yet?03:58
kevogodJinn, Ubuntu will partition it for you03:58
kevogod!ubuntuguide03:58
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:58
sandyeggoboyplease email me ......03:58
crimsunplease be very careful with ubuntuguide.03:58
Jinnwell yeah.. but it'll delete my exsisting files won't it?03:58
Jinni want to keep my files :(03:58
srbaker_ScatterBrain, is there a panel applet thos?03:58
srbaker_tho even?03:58
arghetlamrob_p - basicially, I'm trying to run a shell script on my desktop.03:59
rob_parghetlam:  If not, then from within the same directory as the script, put a, "./" in front of the script.03:59
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melvztechieJinn, better backup ur data first03:59
ScatterBrainsrbaker_: I don't think so.03:59
leonelBreezy come out come out  please !03:59
srbaker_i know there's a panel applet somewhere03:59
srbaker_i've seen it in screenshots on planet gnome03:59
rob_parghetlam:  ...or else include the full path to the script location...03:59
kevogodDoesn't Ubuntu use Ntfsresize?03:59
srbaker_long ago03:59
ScatterBrainsrbaker_: I think it's just an app.03:59
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arghetlamrob_p - I've tried both things you've said about twenty different times, and each time it tells me it can't find the script.04:00
Jinnyeah.. well i'm goign to use parts of 2 different partitions to make the 3rd one, one of which has my windows xp lmao04:00
rob_parghetlam:  Also, make sure the script is set executable (something like 755).04:00
weoberror while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:00
weob - any idea on a fix?04:00
rob_parghetlam:  Can you run the script from the command line?04:00
Ainvarany reason why my cpu hit 100% in firefox when using the fglrx driver for my ati x300 video card?04:00
arghetlamrob_p - The terminal, you mean?04:01
stephIs kubuntu-desktop compatable with breezy?04:01
joe__mustard5, i dled the win32codecs so i do 'sudo dpkg -i win32codecs.deb /usr/local/lib/codecs?04:01
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frank23weob: install libstdc++504:01
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miksui am having some trouble with themes. do you think that breezy final will give us more official themes?04:01
rob_parghetlam:  Yes.04:01
weobpretty sure it is installed04:01
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Jinndo you guys get paid for this? o.O04:01
arghetlamrob_p - yeah, that's where I've been doing everything.04:01
frank23joe__: just sudo dpkg -i win32codecs.deb04:01
Jinnlol04:01
Dreamglideris there any good and not to complicated webpage creator for ubuntu ?04:01
joe__k04:01
weoboh ok guess it was not - shucks04:01
weobthanks04:01
melvztechieJinn: nope this is a community that supports anyone in world04:02
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ThomasMDreamglider: freshmeat.net would be a good starting point.  Let me see what I can find elsewhere.04:02
bugzElMagnificoDreamglider, do you mean a Dreamweaver like editor?04:02
Jinni love it04:02
leobe free my fried open source !!!04:02
leofriend04:02
rob_parghetlam:  Are you currently in the directory which contains the script?04:03
ThomasMDreamglider: I know amaya's gaining popularity.04:03
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SuseUXOSS is not a freindly place as lead to believe04:03
leoJinn, be free my friend04:03
NeverDreamwine needs to run flash, only then will I finally be free from windows forever...04:03
Jinn:P04:03
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Jinnwell i'm going to multiboot so i'm playing for both teams so to speak04:03
frank23NeverDream: flash plugin runs fine natively\04:03
leofirefox has a flash plug in04:03
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NeverDreamno no no04:03
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NeverDreamI need the editor04:04
arghetlamrob_p - Yes.04:04
rob_parghetlam:  Do a, "ls -l | grep script_name" and tell me what it says.04:04
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humboltis there a way to limit the bandwidth consumtion of apt and aptitude?04:04
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axeus...04:04
bugzElMagnificoNeverDream, if you're satisfied with flash mx (aka 7) wine will run it... (with few quirks)04:04
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NeverDreamflah mx is 604:05
nekostar how can one ensure that one has the latest tools to ./configure packages?04:05
NeverDreamall I have is 8...04:05
NeverDreamwell, I have 7 somewhere...04:05
bugzElMagnificoNeverDream, I meant mx 2004...04:05
bugzElMagnificoNeverDream, but you cant trace in intervals or else....04:05
WinZuse vmware04:05
arghetlamrob_p - -rw-r--r--  1 arghetlam arghetlam  41877504 2005-10-12 17:4204:05
arghetlam                                                             bf2-linuxded-1.1.2551.0-installer.sh04:05
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rob_parghetlam:  It's not set executable!04:06
NeverDreambugzElMagnifico: I never got mx 2004 to run04:06
SuseUXnekostar, since unbunu dont have a specific catugory for compiling tools, you just have to look what it says it needs04:06
Jinni hope all my files stay intact >_>;04:06
arghetlamrob_p - thanks. Umm. . .how do I set it executable?04:06
NeverDreamor even install04:06
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rob_parghetlam:  Do a, "chmod 755 script_name"04:06
raingroveisn't breezy coming out nowe04:07
NeverDreami see release notes!04:07
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bugzElMagnificoNeverDream, I did with a great deal of tweaking, copying and more tweaking... but it's 10000 times slower than running things on Win04:07
ice_1963is breezy out yet ?04:07
Jinnis there a way to use w32 programs? (new to linux)04:07
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NeverDreamJinn: wine04:07
stpereice_1963, nope04:07
synackuatorcedega04:07
Jinnic.04:07
ice_1963ok04:07
ThomasMDreamglider: Short list from apt: august, amaya, bluefish, glimmer, gnotepad+, gphpedit, html-helper-mode (emacs module), jed (and xjed), plugins for kate, mozilla's composer, nxml-mode (emacs), peacock, scite, and zope-kupu.04:07
NeverDreamwon't run all of them04:07
Jinni'll look it up04:08
Jinnmmhmm04:08
arghetlamrob_p - "cannot access `bf2-linuxded-1.1.2551.0-installer.sh': No such file or directory"04:08
rob_parghetlam:  Do a, "chmod 755 ./script_name".04:08
bugzElMagnificoThomasM, you forgot Quanta04:08
ThomasMDreamglider: At a glance, I'd recommend august, amaya, bluefish, glimmer, and mozilla's composer.04:08
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SuseUXJinn, look for Linux apps instead, Linux has pretty much a anwser to most Windows apps04:08
ThomasMbugzElMagnifico: Sorry. Was in the list, but didn't contain the word 'edit' in its description.04:09
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arghetlamrob_p - same thing.04:09
bugzElMagnificois there any source list where I can install gnucash in Ubuntu?04:09
rob_parghetlam:  Are you sure that you are in the directory which contains the script?  Are you sure you typed the script name correctly?  Double-check.04:09
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weobalright unreal works nice04:10
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Jinnthanx suseux04:10
arghetlamrob_p - one second. ./ and /. are different. . .let me get that right.04:10
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bimberibugzElMagnifico: it's in the universe repository04:10
ubuntu_anyone know how to get Ubuntu working with the Intel Extreme Graphics (915 chipset on board video)04:10
bimberiubotu tell bugzElMagnifico about repositories04:10
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ThomasMbugzElMagnifico: I've got universe and multiverse enabled, and its listed in my repository.  Using breezy.04:10
rob_parghetlam:  ./ means the current working directory.04:10
stpereubuntu_, did get it working here04:11
bugzElMagnificobimberi, tks...04:11
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srbakerdudes04:11
srbakernetapplet is what i was looking for04:11
bimberibugzElMagnifico: yw :)04:11
ubuntu_i'm running 5.10rc in live mode...04:11
arghetlamrob_p - oh.04:11
rob_parghetlam:  ./ is what you want...04:11
bugzElMagnificoI've just jumped from a debian full to Ubuntu... still getting aquainted04:11
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srbakerbut for some reason the version in breezy universe doesn't have an icon in the Add an Applet window, and doesn't have an icon in the panel04:11
erickhow will setup a secured samba server04:11
stpereubuntu_, if it didn't changed since 5.04, all you need to do is :04:11
ubuntu_the module is loaded, but the only resolution I option I have it 600x80004:11
foxinessis the room for develper of ubuntu ubuntu-dev04:11
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foxinessor something else04:12
eyequeueel04:12
ThomasMbugzElMagnifico: main and restricted contain the core packages.  universe is semi-supported, and multiverse is barely supported.04:12
stpereubuntu_, m'k it's really not the same problem as in 5.0404:12
stpereubuntu_, sorry :-P04:12
rob_parghetlam:  Any luck?04:12
arghetlamrob_p - I had /. Doesn't matter much, though, it didn't make a difference. And I just tried dragging and dropping the icon into the terminal, and it brought up gedit.04:12
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ubuntu_stpere, what was the 5.04 prob>?04:12
bugzElMagnificoThomasM, tks... just fixed my sourcelist04:13
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stpereubuntu_, you had to install the latest dri snapshot04:13
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ubuntu_oh...04:13
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stpereubuntu_, dri.freedesktop.org04:13
NeverDreamubuntu_: have you tried the noml kernel parameter?04:13
foxinesswho use smartlink driver here ?04:13
ubuntu_NeverDream, normal?04:13
edgarinsome person have installed quake arena in ubuntu?04:13
NeverDreamworked for me before with a similar problem04:13
NeverDreamubuntu_: noml04:14
raingrovewhere is our breezy04:14
foxinesswhy linux break the driver on every six month ?04:14
SuseUXedgarin, I have it but not installed it for a while04:14
ubuntu_what is noml for?04:14
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NeverDreamno modelines04:14
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Toma-Whats the countdown up to?04:14
ThomasMedgarin: It's been a while, but I've had it installed at different times on Debian, and maybe Ubuntu Hoary.04:15
rob_parghetlam:  Do this, "chmod 755 ./script_name" from the directory which contains the script.  If it says no such file, then you are either not in the same directory, or you are typing the name of the script wrong.04:15
ThomasMrob_p: 'chmod +x script_name' is a bit easier for many to read and understand.04:15
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Nomad_I have a question:  Under the "Shared Folders Settings" when I try to click the Help button I get an error saying that it can not find the help files or something.  Can someone help a newbie out?04:15
ubuntu_NeverDream, thanks...i'll give it a shot04:15
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arghetlamrob_p - okay, just to make sure, I'm looking at arghetlam@computername:~/Desktop04:16
rob_parghetlam:  What is the name of the file?04:16
randallI have a usb device to connect to wireless network. I just installed ubuntu for first time (first linux distro) and dont know what to do to get it working04:17
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ThomasMNomad_: Only thing I can see at a glance is 'apt-get install ubuntu-docs'04:17
arghetlamrob_p - bf2-linuxded-1.1.2551.0-installer.sh04:17
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randallCan anybody help?04:17
carthikrandall, ask, and someone might04:17
ThomasMrandall: What make and model?04:17
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bimberirandall: Have a look for your device here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:17
Nomad_so if i do the apt-get install ubuntu-docs in the terminal window the button should start working?04:18
Nomad_*apt-get install ubuntu-docs04:18
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randallThomasM:  Its a Netgreat WG111v204:18
ThomasMNomad_: As root.  I'm hoping.  Can't really see anything else that would cause you to not have the standard help files.04:19
pvhI just hit a major "Oops". I accidentally chowned my /etc/sudoers to someone else. Now what?04:19
pvh(This is a totally stock fresh Breezy RC.)04:19
pvh(That someone else is my current logged in user.)04:19
Xenguypvh: so you're asking how to compromise a system? :-)04:20
randallThomasM: I mean Netgear04:20
leonelBreezy come out come out  please !04:20
rob_parghetlam:  Is there a funky character at the beginning of your file?04:20
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ThomasMrandall: Did you look at the link bimberi gave you?04:20
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arghetlamrob_p - there's an $ after desktop.04:20
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arghetlamrob_p - but that's it.04:21
bugzElMagnificopvh just chown it back to root.04:21
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randallThomasM:  Yes, they have the WG11v1 listed but not WG111v2  <-- does that mean im screwed?04:21
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rob_parghetlam:  That's fine.  That's you prompt.04:21
ThomasMrandall: Probably not.  Does that doc have a link to or instructions for installation?04:21
pvhXenguy: Uh, not really. I currently own the file... so from that point of view, you could call it compromised.04:21
pvhbugzElMagnifico: Can't give away the file.04:22
arghetlamrob_P - Okay. So, from here, I just put in "./bf2-linuxded-1.1.2551.0-installer.sh", right?04:22
pvhbugzElMagnifico: "Operation not permitted."04:22
pvhbugzElMagnifico: and can't sudo because I'm the owner of /etc/sudoers...04:22
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ThomasMrandall: I'd read the WG111HowTo linked from the hardware list, and pop back in here if you have any questions/problems.04:22
randallThomasM: Yes, ill look into that before I bother you more04:22
erickguys Im going to add a user on machine and give them a nologin shell how can I achieve that04:22
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bugzElMagnificopvh and you dont have access to the root pass?04:22
ThomasMrandall: Feel free to bother.  Just letting you know that I know nothing outside of that document, and don't have the hardware here to learn anything.  :)04:23
bugzElMagnificopvh, I mean, you cant su and change it?04:23
Toma-pvh: use a rescue cd and change the perms with that?04:23
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ice_Breezy out tomorrow?04:23
randallAlthough I have another question I downloaded a mp3 just to figure out how to play one.  When I open it in RhythmBox it tells me its not a streaming types and doesnt work....any suggestions?04:23
pvhbugzElMagnifico: No root pass.. it's a stock install. :)04:23
randallThomasM: appreciate the help04:23
pvhToma-: Yeah, the machine is on campus and I went home for the day. I'll ask my buddy who's local to the machine, but that means waiting until the hockey game ends and hoping he's sober after.04:24
Toma-!mp304:24
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:24
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synackuatorso are they gonna send out the CDs sometime in 05??04:24
rob_parghetlam:  What is the beginning character of your filename?  It shows up as a strange ascii character here.04:24
kevogodsynackuator, Well, of course04:25
arghetlamb04:25
synackuatorkevogod: heh, i was hearing people were getting their hoary CDs 3 months later04:25
ThomasMbugzElMagnifico: Pretty much everything in ubuntu is done by sudo.  This first user created should have ALL=(ALL) privileges.04:25
rob_parghetlam:  No, between the "./" and the "b"?  There's a character in there.04:26
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kevogodsynackuator, No, it does not take that long.04:26
ThomasMpvh: Reboot to a rescue CD or your install CD, open a terminal, mount the drive, and change ownership from there, if you're totally locked out.04:26
kevogodsynackuator, Although they don't use Fedex Express Saver or anything.04:26
arghetlamrob_p - there is? I don't see anything. I didn't even put a space in there.04:26
kevogodsynackuator, It is free, keep in mind.04:26
leoThomasM,  how do you conf sudo04:27
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leo??04:27
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ThomasMleo: 'visudo' under too privileges.04:27
tritiumleo, add the user to the admin group04:27
synackuatorkevogod: gotcha, perhaps someone was exaggerating because they got their CDs a day later than the next guy04:27
bugzElMagnificoWe got our cds not long ago...04:27
rob_parghetlam:  Looks like a HEX "%0C".04:27
tritiumviduso is not necessary04:27
kevogodsynackuator, Don't expect overnight delievery is all I'm saying.04:27
ThomasMleo: Or do what tritium just said.  Didn't know it used a group to handle it.04:27
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leook04:27
budluvahow safe is replacing hoary sources.list with breezy sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?04:28
pvhThomasM: Dang, thanks.04:28
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kevogodsynackuator, Expect the typical 6-8 weeks04:28
arghetlamrob_p - Should I assume that's a bad thing, then?04:28
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ThomasMtritium: Thanks for pointing me toward that tidbit.  I'm still semi-new to Ubuntu.04:28
arghetlamrob_p - considering the fact that I don't see anything in there.04:28
tritiumThomasM, no worries!  Thanks for helping out the community already :)04:28
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ThomasMbudluva: I've done it without issue.04:28
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rob_parghetlam:  One sec...04:29
ThomasMbudluva: About... 2 weeks ago, and no problems.  Of course, I was at a base system at the time, but it should go through well. 'dist-upgrade' is pretty smart.04:29
tritiumbudluva, did you read the URL in the topic for upgrading to breezy?04:29
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budluvaThomasM, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:29
budluva?04:29
budluvaerr tristanmike04:29
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budluvaahhh tritium i mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:29
tritiumright, budluva :)04:30
ThomasMbudluva: Yep. Read that. Is what "tritium" was talking about.  :)04:30
ChiletixHi, I have got a problem04:30
erickGuys how can I add user with a shell false?04:30
ChiletixCan't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build;04:30
Chiletix  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make04:30
Chiletixmake: *** [prereq_check]  Error 104:30
Chiletixy have kubuntu04:30
ThomasMerick: Change shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd04:30
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Chiletixhow can i fix this to compile04:30
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budluvasomeone want to look at something on pastebin for me04:30
hekohey guys, i have breezy badger 5.10 amdx6404:31
ThomasMerick: (Should probably replace the text "/bin/bash" if you added the user normally.)04:31
hekoand i have catastrophic memory usage04:31
hekoxorg uses 400mb04:31
hekofirefox uses 324mb04:31
erickk thomas I'll try taht04:31
hekomy 1 gig of memory is seeming small now04:31
ThomasMheko: Good God, thy programs art greedy.04:31
hekois this normal?04:31
Xenguyheko: that's crazy - reboot I say04:31
budluvahttp://pastebin.com/39185904:31
hekook, thanks guys will try04:31
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ThomasMheko: How much of the fancy graphics (smoothing, animations, etc.) do you have enabled?04:32
budluvahow can i not have libc6 installed?04:32
intelikeyheko: is it actually using it or just alocating04:32
ThomasMheko: The other option is to close firefox and restart X.  You shouldn't actually need to restart.04:32
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brodmanni'm trying to run the command (sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins), I'm getting a bunch of errors04:32
frank23budluva: by uninstalling linux?04:32
randallAnybody know why when I try to open mp3 in RhythmBox it tells me they are not an audio stream?  (they are mp3 not audiostream)04:32
ThomasMheko: If firefox is running as a background process with no open windows, kill it.04:32
brodmannthis is after i've run the update04:32
jeff_brodman: breezy?04:32
hekothomasm: its the default install, nothing tweaked04:32
konra`when's breezy out?04:32
brodmannhoary04:32
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budluvafrank23, i never uninstalled04:32
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erickthomas I try this cmd sudo /usr/sbin/adduser -s /bin/false sample and got this error No more than two names04:33
jeff_brodmann: What are the errors?04:33
hekothomasm: my other processes are also greedy, Gaim has 187meg and nautilus with 16304:33
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ThomasMerick: I'm not sure about using scripts to do it, so somebody else may know.  I'd recommend adding a regular user and just changing their line in /etc/passwd when complete.04:33
TylerDurdenhow do i apply a kernel patch?04:33
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brodmanncouldn't stat source package list bla bhalh - backports/restricted packages04:33
brodmannblah blah04:33
erickk Thomas thanks04:33
konra`anyone know when breezy comes out?04:33
hekointelikey: KDE system guard says 964,500KB used, 56,000 free - i think they're using04:34
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brodmannjeff?  any idea04:34
ThomasMheko: Hrm...04:34
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intelikeyheko: i dought it.04:34
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hekothomasm: ill try a restart04:34
ThomasMkonra`: Any reason why you just VERSION'd me?04:34
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ThomasMheko: What's your current uptime?04:34
konra`ThomasM, nope04:34
TylerDurdenhow do i apply a kernel patch?04:34
hekothomasm: about 5-6 hours04:35
vengefulsticky tape04:35
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tritiumTylerDurden, please don't repeat04:35
ThomasMkonra`: Then please don't.  I'll answer if you ask, but I don't much like people playing discovery in a help channel.04:35
konra`sorry04:35
decafcan I extract files of an iso9660 image without loop mount ?04:35
leo%adminALL=(ALL) ALL04:35
jeff_decaf: no04:35
leowhere do I type my user name ??04:35
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jeff_leo: is your username leo?04:35
tritiumleo, don't use visudo.  Just add the user you want to have sudo priveleges to the admin group04:35
leoyes04:35
jeff_on your ubuntu machine04:35
jeff_ok: grep leo /etc/group04:36
leokind of stupid to say to public04:36
decafjeff_, I'm sure it's possible. I just dont have time to write a script for it.04:36
jeff_If you see user leo in the admin group then you have sudo priviliges04:36
ThomasMleo: Open /etc/group as root.  Add ':leo' to the end of the line that starts 'admin:x...'04:36
leoanyway this pc is for experimentation04:36
erickso thomas is csh cmd avail for ubuntu in redhat this will change you shell04:36
jeff_decaf: no04:36
leook I'm going to /etc04:36
leothanks04:36
rob_parghetlam:  For whatever reason, there seems to be a strange character at the beginning of your script's filename.  For grins, try changing your script's filename with, "mv  `ls | grep linuxded` script.sh"  That will find the filename even if it begins with a strange character, and change it to "script.sh."  Then you should be able to work with it.04:36
xynamaxi think i screwed up my glib.  I compiled and installed glib2.4.8 but apparently i already had 2.8.3 installed.  How do I undo what I did?04:37
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ThomasMerick: 'csh' is an alternate shell, yes.  It doesn't come installed by default, but you could 'apt-get install csh' as root.04:37
jeff_xynamax: sudo apt-get install -reinstall glib might work04:37
xynamaxthanks04:37
erickah k thanks04:37
wavefunctionHi. I'fo;/quit04:37
jeff_csh? that is horrible. That is the default on AIX04:37
ThomasMerick: That's the standard shell for BSD systems.  Is that'n your favorite?04:37
tritium--reinstall (two --)04:37
carthikwhat is the equivalent for gksudo in kubuntu, anyone?04:37
erickthomas what is BSD?04:38
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tritiumcarthik, did you ask in #kubuntu?04:38
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raingrovecarlos, kdesudo i think kdesu04:38
Avenhi04:38
Avenanyone familiar with Webmin?04:38
bill__hi04:38
leoadm:x:4:root,leo04:38
carthiktritium, no I did not, any reason why I shouldn't ask here? :)04:38
tritiumno, leo04:38
Communist_FireFoHello04:38
ThomasMerick: A unix variant, similar in relationship to linux.  *BSD:Unix (almost as) linux:unix04:38
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leo@#$&^???04:38
tritiumcarthik, well, since it's a kubuntu question, they might know ;)04:38
tritiumleo, admin, not adm04:38
leook04:39
rob_parghetlam:  You'll then be able to, "chmod 755 ./script.sh" and it should work.  You can always rename it to whatever you like later.04:39
leojah jah this beer04:39
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Communist_FireFoI can not wait for Ubuntu Breezy Badger to come out! Yeah!04:39
bill__can someone help me with how I install Skype04:39
ThomasMleo: And I could be wrong, but I think it's ':leo', not ',leo'04:39
josh43Heck yeah :)04:39
tritiumleo, you can also user the adduser command to add a user to a group04:39
Bad_Magicim running breezy now04:39
luianybody, gnome uses gtk2, right? and kde uses Qt? am I right?04:39
Bad_Magicits spiffy so far04:39
Bad_Magic=x04:39
jeff_erick: Try rssh for a restricted shell04:39
leook let me try04:39
kevogodhttp://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/04:39
tritiumlee, sudo adduser leo admin04:39
tritiumleo ^^04:39
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josh43SO, can someone tell me the real reason it's impossible to get hardware 3d right off the bat? WHy not binary drivers in the distro?04:40
whiprushajmitch_: when!04:40
ajmitch_whiprush: oh man04:40
luiI'm just trying to know more about linux04:40
fdrjosh43: legal issues.04:40
josh43lui: Kindof04:40
erickk jeff thanks04:40
jeff_josh43: Because they are property of the companies and the companies own the rights to them, not the linux distributions04:40
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tritiumjosh43, there are binary drivers.  Which chipset?04:40
jeff_josh43: So that makes it a legal issue04:40
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ThomasMtritium: Another nice tidbit.  I'm used to rolling these by hand.  /me squirrels away more of tritium's comments.04:40
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luijosh43, ok, thanks04:40
ajmitch_whiprush: I should look for an op to deal with you ;)04:40
arghetlamrob_p: okay, now my computer's just spiting me. I put that in, hit enter, and all I get from there on out is ">"04:40
josh43Ok, so basically to get proper support, they need to gpl the linux drivers04:40
tritiumThomasM, you seem like an asset to the community.  I'm glad you've joined us!  :)04:41
whiprushheh04:41
fdrjosh43: well, or BSD, or have some sort of sensible license04:41
tritiumjosh43, which chipset?04:41
Communist_FireFoI am using Mandrake Linux 10.0 right now - I am just waiting for ShipIt to send me my free Ubuntu  Breezy CD...04:41
kevogod*BSD includes binary-only drivers.04:41
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weobis it possible to install kde on top of ubuntu breezy?04:41
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tritiumweob, yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:41
fdrjosh43: they at least need to make it redistributable, although I found getting stuff working with many distros very easy nowadays04:41
erickI already create my smb user how about machine how will add my machine04:41
weobok thanks04:41
ThomasMtritium: This channel is amazing for boredom relief.  An ADHD person would love it here.04:41
rob_parghetlam:  You left out a, "`" then.  Try copying and pasting it at the command prompt.04:41
leoadduser: The group `admin' does not exist.04:41
bimberiubotu tell bill__ about skype04:42
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jeff_binary only != free (proprietary) drivers04:42
xynamaxthanks for the good advice, in the future how can I check to see if I have a library installed before i go and install it04:42
tritium!tell josh43 about binarydriverhowto04:42
rob_parghetlam:  ctrl-c to escape from the, ">"04:42
Communist_FireFoSo do any of you guys run a web server on your Ubuntu computers?04:42
fdrCommunist_FireFo: I used to run a thttpd server for ad-hoc stuff04:42
kevogodjeff_, And how does binary-only not equate to proprietary?04:42
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ThomasMtritium: In about a week, I'll be sick of answering the same questions a dozen times, and will revert to lurker mode for a bit.  I'm going to have to go mentally index the wiki and start handing out URLs.04:42
bill__I am a total newbie on here - can someone help me with how I  go about installing a deb package for  Skype please04:42
leoyou can not edit a binary04:42
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tritiumThomasM, that's what ubotu is for ;)04:43
Communist_FireFofdr: I am looking to set up a web server on my new Breezy shipment when it comes int04:43
Communist_FireFo*in...04:43
bimberibill__: sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb04:43
konra`does NO-ONE know when breezy comes out?04:43
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tritiumkonra`, the 13th04:43
xynamaxhow can I modify my LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable04:43
ThomasMkonra`: Before this time tomorrow.04:43
fdrCommunist_FireFo: well, that varies from the simple to the complicated given the details of the problem04:43
kevogodkonra`, October 13th04:43
konra`ahh.04:43
konra`thanks :p04:43
bill__thanks bimberi04:43
ThomasMkonra`: fridge.ubuntu.com has it at 11:59 PM GMT time 2005-10-1304:43
carthikkonra`, they are testing the installers...04:43
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Communist_FireFofdr: What do you mean?04:43
bimberibill__: yw :)04:44
kevogodjeff_, How does binary-only not equate to proprietary?04:44
arghetlamrob_p: "When moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory."04:44
fdrCommunist_FireFo: thttpd is really, really simple, and fast.  As in, good bye (most) dynamic content, if I have my story correct.04:44
tritiumjosh43, I had ubotu send you info.  Did you see it?04:44
Kiraubotu should be programmed to announce the "hour to Breezy Badger".04:44
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Kira04:44
fdrCommunist_FireFo: for example, no PHP04:44
weobdont use ati cards with lunix04:44
fdrCommunist_FireFo: thttpd is described at http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/04:44
Communist_FireFofdr: ok04:44
KiraYes I know, ubotu.04:44
kevogodweob, Why?04:44
jeff_kevogod: Distribution rights04:45
weobif you want 3d support04:45
fdrCommunist_FireFo: but it's very limited, so if you were planning for some whiz bang stuff and dynamically generated pages, you are out of luck.04:45
weobi have an x800pro which still doesnt work with 3d support in linux04:45
Communist_FireFofdr: I tried to establish a server on Mandrake Linux - but it failed on me04:45
jeff_the reason flash, mp3, nvidia 3d accelaration, blah is because of redistribution clauses in the free licenses04:45
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kevogodjeff_, Anything binary-only is proprietary. It does not matter what distribution rights you are given.04:45
rob_parghetlam:  You must have more than one file with the same sequence of characters in it then.  Modify my command to only match your filename.04:45
cpalmayou could also try lighttpd04:45
Communist_FireFofdr: I am looking to establish a web server on my 80GB hard drive04:45
jeff_kevogod: Not if you read ASM :)04:45
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Kiraweob: which is why I prefer nVidia. :)04:45
frank23kevogod: ati drivers for linux are much worse than nvidia drivers for linux so you never get the full performance of an ati card04:45
fdrCommunist_FireFo: well, what are you intending to do with it?04:46
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fdrCommunist_FireFo: personal tinkering, and so forth?04:46
weobya i ended up buying an nvidia card04:46
Communist_FireFofdr: yes04:46
kevogodfrank23, That is a phalacy.04:46
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rob_parghetlam:  "ls -l ./" for a list of files in the current dir.04:46
weobi will never use ati again04:46
kevogod--> fallacy04:46
fdrCommunist_FireFo: Do you intend to use scripting languages such as PHP, Python, Ruby, or Perl?  Or is this strictly an (X)HTML job?04:46
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frank23kevogod: a what? why?04:46
tritiumjosh43, sorry :)04:46
weobnvidia chips are developed on linux04:46
chickenmongerI've heard that for non-3d purposes, the support for Intel's graphics chipsets goes beyond anything ATI or Nvidia can put forth04:47
weobya so04:47
josh43tritium: Which chipset for the card? or the mobo? nforce3 and 8900 pro respectably04:47
weobwho cares about non-3d ?04:47
fdrI'm not particularly thrilled about some of nVIDIA practices, but I do own one of their cards.04:47
weobbill gates ?04:47
kevogodfrank23, ATI's graphics support is not as bad as you make it out to be.04:47
crimsun(I do)04:47
chickenmongerMythTV wouldn't need 3d04:47
fdrand ATI fglrx worked fine for me when I had one04:47
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weobof course not04:47
tritiumweob, I do too04:47
Communist_FireFofdr: All of those. But I am primarily focusing on HTML - I looking to host a bunch of websites on the new hard drive I have04:47
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Communist_FireFofdr: *I am04:48
arghetlamrob_p: Could I just change the filename from the desktop, or would that character still be there?04:48
jeff_Communist_FireFo: Apache is easy to setup04:48
josh43fdr: I think it would be a great idea for them to put a foot forward at least and let people have the flexibility and power they own04:48
intelikeyweob me too ^04:48
tritiumjosh43, is the onboard disabled in the bios?  Which are you using?04:48
rob_parghetlam:  You want to change the grep argument from, "linuxded" to something that will only match your filename.04:48
fdrjosh43: what are you referring to?04:48
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rob_parghetlam:  You could try...04:48
fdrCommunist_FireFo: a bunch? like, for money? or just for kicks?  Do your users have needs for such technologies? Because it sounds like what you need is Apache04:49
rob_parghetlam:  I find it odd that it's there at all but this should remedy that.04:49
josh43tritium: it has no onboard card.. gigabyte, can't remember which one off the top of my head.. a64, nforce3, agp04:49
josh43fdr, The licensing04:49
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Communist_FireFojeff_:  The problem here is that in Mandrake you have to install of these damn dependencies...It's what Other Linux users call DEPENDENCY HELL...04:49
frank23kevogod: I'm pretty sure I'm right, unless things have changed recently04:49
fdrjosh43: well, yeah, I'm firmly in that camp as well.04:49
tritiumjosh43, I'm referring to the video chipset specifically04:49
rob_parghetlam:  I'll brb...04:49
josh43tritium: ati brand radeon 9800 pro.. 35004:49
jeff_Communist_FireFo: No, that term is rpm dependency hell. You dont have that on debian based distributions04:49
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kevogodfrank23, Then how come I can play games just fine on my crappy ATI X300?04:50
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kevogodfrank23, On Ubuntu04:50
jeff_Communist_FireFo: And on mandrake, the auto dependency resolution software is urpmi I believe04:50
kevogodReal 3D games!04:50
tritiumjosh43, okay, read ubotu's link about ATI binary drivers04:50
TylerDurdenim about to throw up, can someone PLEASE tell me how to install a kernel? i have the .tar.gz file04:50
fdrjeff_: not so much anymore on rpm based distros either now that they have gained various package management features.04:50
erickThomas I try this cmd chsh and change my shell without editing my /etc/passwd04:50
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Communist_FireFofdr: I need to set up a set for my organization and for my perosonal stuff04:50
intelikeyjeff_: i'v never had deps problems on mdk either.04:50
tritiumTylerDurden, sorry to hear you're sick.  Hope you feel better soon...04:50
crimsunTylerDurden: why do you need a new kernel?04:50
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fdrCommunist_FireFo: okay, no doubt about it, Apache is almost a forgone conclusion04:51
frank23kevogod: I didn't say it doesn't work, but that you lose performance with ati because of their drivers04:51
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josh43tritium, Been there, done that unfortunately.. I even got so far as to (once) have the card show up in flgrxinfo, but it still didn't do opengl in hardware04:51
weobati = d3d = ms suckers04:51
fdrCommunist_FireFo: unfortunately that means you are going to have to muck around in the config files, which are notoriously fragile at times04:51
TylerDurdencrimsun, does it reall ymatter? i wanna install a kernel over a kernel but the kernel i want to install over a a kernel needs a specific kernel which is 2.6.13.204:51
kevogodfrank23, And do you have some conclusive evidence of this?04:51
ThomasMerick: You can change your shell freely while working.  The change you make in /etc/passwd changes the shell for what the user logs in to.  /bin/false makes it un-loginable.  /bin/csh changes your default to csh04:51
tritiumjosh43, oh, okay04:51
frank23kevogod: first hand, no04:51
Communist_FireFofdr: Yeah, I know what you mean.04:51
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Communist_FireFoit's a total pain in the ass04:51
GatoMoteadowell i downloaded and installed the w32 codecs for breezy......when i run totem and try to play a wmv file i get the same error04:51
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GatoMoteadono decoders found04:52
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erickthats mny goal to adduser that does not need to log on my machine locally04:52
jeff_fdr: Debian was the first for automated dependency resolution. Then came yellowdog which included yum which redhat ported to fedora and mdk created urpmi04:52
whiprushcrimsun: how close are you to raleigh?04:52
josh43tritium, Thank you though, those links are definately helpful and have taught me alot, but I still cannot get 3d properly04:52
crimsunTylerDurden: yes, it really does matter, because unless you have a fairly thorough understanding of Ubuntu's kernel packaging, you may find stuff well and broken.04:52
jeff_suse has you or red carpet which also work ok04:52
fdrjeff_: pfft. BSD, my friend,  apt is but a capable copy04:52
jeff_but debian based distros with apt-get always win04:52
TylerDurdencrimsun, do u mind vncing me?04:52
Communist_FireFoI did not use urpmi04:52
jeff_fdr: ahhh ports.04:52
bugzElMagnificoOK 560 megas of downlaod.... I guess I'll head off for a while... catchall later04:52
crimsunwhiprush: I'll be in Raleigh tomorrow evening for the LUG meeting; I'm in Greensboro, an hour and some minutes west of Raleigh.04:52
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xynamaxI need to remove a package I installed with make04:53
jeff_fdr: OpenBSD = my firewall04:53
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fdrjeff_: indeed, simple, and works pretty well, and is the basis of Gentoo's philosphy kind of04:53
rob_parghetlam:  I'm back.  Any luck yet?04:53
whiprushcrimsun: ok rocking, so jdub will be linking up down there during the tour. sweet.04:53
axeusErm.04:53
crimsunyep, in Nov.04:53
fdrCommunist_FireFo: there are countless apache guides, but I think that when you get a new daemon off the Ubuntu repos that they typically are enabled for you04:53
axeusIs there a place I can search for packages?04:53
jeff_axeus: Synaptic04:53
fdrCommunist_FireFo: so, barring a firewall, I bet after installing apache you can visit http://127.0.0.1 and get a page04:53
TylerDurdencrimsun, so can u VNC me please?04:53
rob_paxeus:  apt-cache search <string>04:53
arghetlamrob_p - Actually, yes! I managed to rename it, and I ran the chmod 755 without it screaming at me.04:53
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fdrjeff_: I would use it more if had better hardware support, but really...the kernel doesn't matter that much to me04:54
rob_parghetlam:  Cool!  Now you should be able to execute it.04:54
arghetlam. . .04:54
crimsunTylerDurden: sorry, not unless it's tunneled.04:54
a_monkeywhen i install xfonts-artwiz with apt it doesn't work04:54
Communist_FireFofdr: I am planning to istall it through apt-get on my new Breezy system when the release CD's get here04:54
arghetlamrob_p: . . .I am going to end EA.04:54
TylerDurdenwhat do u mean crimsun04:54
jeff_fdr: obsd is not for a desktop. It was never designed for and probably never will be04:54
arghetlamrob_p: I go through all that, and I get a bad checksum.04:54
a_monkeyi execute "sudo apt-get install xfonts-artwiz"04:54
a_monkeyand restart X04:54
ThomasMrob_p: I commend you.  You have a great deal more patience than I do.04:54
fdrjeff_: oh, that much the authors come clean on04:54
jeff_fdr: It makes the best wireless access point, firewall, or dns server of all time though04:55
Gorgonzolaanyone here installed the Apache Axis?04:55
rob_pThomasM:  :-)04:55
a_monkeybut the artwiz font doesn't seem to be available04:55
TylerDurdencrimsun, ok well can you tell me how to installa  kernel then?04:55
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fdrjeff_: I'm more of a development sort myself, so anything suites me04:55
jeff_fdr: Yes, and theo with his infinite elitist-ism doesn't realize that linux will overtake him soon enough04:55
rob_parghetlam:  Bummer :-(04:55
jeff_fdr: /me == Unix / Linux admin04:55
jrattner1is breezy out yet?04:55
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DShepherdbreezy where are you? :(04:55
fdrjeff_: "bsd is dying" has been arond as long as the ATT suit04:56
sberardIs anyone else missing the firefox start page?04:56
ThomasMI don't see anything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat for channel rules.  Is there a channel FAQ somewhere out there?  (Usually try to be careful not to step over lines I don't know about.)04:56
Communist_FireFoHas anyone ordered Ubuntu through ShipIt?04:56
VensonCommunist_FireFo: i have before04:56
ThomasMsberard: I don't miss it at all, once I set my home page to 'about:blank'.  :P04:56
fdrCommunist_FireFo: I bet you should just give it a shot, and then read some guides, have some problems, and then probably talk in #apache (or wherever their channel is) for specific advice.04:56
GorgonzolaCommunist_FireFo, I have in the past04:56
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crimsunTylerDurden: be aware that Ubuntu's kernel is pretty tightly bound to userspace features, but sure.04:56
jrattner1has the official release come out yet04:56
jeff_fdr: That should be rephrased... Unix is dying and linux is rising04:56
crimsunTylerDurden: grab kernel-package and use it to create a deb04:56
ThomasMCommunist_FireFo: I've got an order in.  Haven't checked its status in a week or two, but it's only been about 3 weeks since I put it in.04:56
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TylerDurdencrimsun, i really need to install it04:56
jeff_Openbsd = BSD = Unix04:56
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fdrjeff_: well, technically Unix is only SCO Unix, so yes, it is in fact dead.04:56
Communist_FireFoVenson: How long did you have to wait for it?04:56
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rob_parghetlam:  Well, good luck with it all.04:57
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jrattner1someone pm me when breezy is out04:57
TylerDurdencrimsun, im really new, but i need to install this kernel, how do i do that?04:57
VensonCommunist_FireFo: a loooooooong time......which i hope isn't the case this time around04:57
GorgonzolaCommunist_FireFo, I had to wait about a month and a half for my 5.04 discs to reach Australia04:57
jeff_TylerDurden: Why do you "Really need to install it"?04:57
fdrjeff_: well, about as close to dead as one cares to get.04:57
Communist_FireFoGorgonzola: I live in America04:57
Toma-hello there Venson :D04:57
naliothcameron04:57
TylerDurdenhttp://users.pandora.be/seppe/nitro/2.6.13.2-nitro1/series04:57
TylerDurdensigh ytf does it matter? seriously04:57
crimsun/msg jrattner1 breezy colony 5 is out kthx04:57
sberardThomasM: It's annoying that the start page doesn't work, since a recent update was suppose to address this issue04:58
Vensonhey Toma-04:58
TylerDurdenwhat matters is that i need to install it, why do you have to question it?04:58
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jeff_fdr: when I said unix, I mean everything posix != Linux. We are switching from HP-UX to linux as I speak04:58
chiddyGatoMoteado, try opening up a terminal and get the w32codecs package from Hoary and install it using dpkg: wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb04:58
Toma-are u switching to the Ub too?04:58
arghetlamrob_p: Oh, if it doesn't work, the CEO of EA is going to wake up with a 120 gig HDD sticking out of his forehead.04:58
whiprushNITRO!04:58
chiddyGatoMoteado, I did that on Breezy and it worked for me04:58
sberardThomasM: I guess I can set my own home page04:58
GorgonzolaCommunist_FireFo, the envelope says they come from Switzerland, so it still wont be break-neck speed :)04:58
ThomasMsberard: Can't you copy-paste the value out of an old configuration?04:58
VensonToma-: not sure yet....looking for reasons to04:58
Toma-i see04:58
ThomasMsberard: There's nothing really on firefox start that's not on http://google.com/04:58
fdrTylerDurden: because when you have about a million problems they'll have to be mysteriously diagnosed, and with a different kernel you have one huge unknown.04:58
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Gorgonzolaanyone here installed the Apache Axis?04:58
ThomasMsberard: And it's always fun to accidentally encounter one of google's modified logos.04:58
intelikeyubutu's kernel !!!!   hehhe i'd have to recompile one.   i'm not gona boot an initrd.img along with a kernel image....04:58
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VensonToma-: i'm trying to convert the n00bs at school to linux, however.....and thinking of putting them on Ubuntu04:59
Abysmalhey all.. i have a question.. I have kubuntu running behind a firewall, and I can't hit apache from outside.. but if i switch the the ip to point to my windows box i can hit the webserver on it.. is the something i have to config on kubuntu to get it to accept the traffic??04:59
Communist_FireFoThat would at least take three weeks here...04:59
TylerDurdenfdr? what?04:59
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jeff_TylerDurden: Because you are new to linux. I listen to you on IRC. You are new to linux and dont know what you need. You just ask lots of questions04:59
TylerDurdeni just want to install the kernel04:59
sberardThomasM: yeah, just really annoying that the default start page is missing.  Anyone who does an update to breezy is going to have this problem04:59
TylerDurdenwhats the big deal04:59
ThomasMAbysmal: It's likely that apache is bound to listen only on the local interface.04:59
Toma-Venson: kubuntu is a little more win-user-orientated i spose with kde and all04:59
Communist_FireFobecause I reside in NYC04:59
sberardThomasM: unless they set there own page04:59
jeff_TylerDurden: What do you "Need a new kernel" for?04:59
VensonToma-: that's a good thing.....these guys aren't exactly pros04:59
TylerDurdenwow04:59
Abysmalhow do i change that??04:59
Gorgonzolasberard, a lot of people prefer not to have a star page04:59
ThomasMAbysmal: Look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default if using apache204:59
VensonCommunist_FireFo: where at?04:59
fdroops, there he goes.04:59
axeusRawr.04:59
Communist_FireFoVenson: Brooklyn05:00
VensonCommunist_FireFo: Queens here05:00
whiprushman, that dude is in for an exploding machine.05:00
fdrjeff_: shrug.  Maybe.  I think for  stuff requiring more robustness Solaris and a BSD will make strong showings.05:00
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Hendricgud morning y'all05:00
rob_pAbysmal:  ...also, make sure you don't have port 80 blocked on your kubuntu box (such as with a local firewall).05:00
axeusI'm trying to compile ZSENS and It's telling me: The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found05:00
axeus. I thought SDL was installed?05:00
Communist_FireFoVenson: I see - I live six blocks way from the brooklyn queens border05:00
sberardGorgonzola: I agree.  I used to just use the default firefox start, but now I get an error when starting firefox that it is missing05:00
Hendrici just woke up..05:00
jeff_fdr: I agree. and HP-UX still has nonstop. Nonstop servers scale to infinite cpus. Linux can't match that05:00
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VensonCommunist_FireFo: cool...you go to any LUGs?05:00
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Abysmalport 80 is forwared to the box..05:00
Abysmalthanks thomasm05:01
Communist_FireFoVenson: No. They do not have any where I live at05:01
Gorgonzolasberard, oh sorry, i thought you mena it was just set to 'about:blank' - i didn't realise you meant it is actually missing the page it should be pointing to05:01
sberardGorgonzola: It happended after upgrading to breezy05:01
fdrjeff_: I see linux as a bit like a MySQL, except with more features relative to its competition.  It helps that the standard isn't huge, either.05:01
VensonCommunist_FireFo: ah ok...just wondering.05:01
Gorgonzolain that, yeh thats a problem :)05:01
fdrjeff_: you will still have worthy competitors like postgres.05:01
Gorgonzolain that case rather05:01
Communist_FireFoVenson: Otherwise I would have gone05:01
jeff_fdr: Again, you are correct. It is dominating the low end like webservers.05:01
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Communist_FireFoVenson: You go to any LUG's?05:01
ThomasMAbysmal: Look for a line that says 'Allow from 127.0.0.1' under <Directory /var/www/ >05:02
VensonCommunist_FireFo: nah...05:02
ratabreezy would be out 13/10 UTC ? UTC -3 ? anyone know ?05:02
fdrjeff_: still, developing on windows makes my mind bleed.05:02
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Vensonschool sucks away all my time, energy and life05:02
ThomasMAbysmal: Change that to 'Allow from all' and you'll be fixed.  Just make sure you keep on top of your server's security if you're exposing it to the Net.05:02
jeff_fdr: However, xensource, ibm, sgi, novell, redhat, are making linux increasingly making it viable for the big stuff05:02
intelikeyLUG is that like an AA meating for computer junkies ?05:02
jeff_lugs are cool05:02
Communist_FireFoVenson: I am a active revolutionary workerist - but I have the time to go to LUG's - if there were any around here.05:03
fdrjeff_:  that's true.  It's "just a kernel" after all.  Maybe it's better that various forks are adopted to various purposes intead of having completely different code bases.05:03
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ThomasMLUG lists are very cool.  I never attend LUG meetings (though I should).  But I do read lots and lots of email, and archive it all away for whenever I have a problem.05:03
fdrjeff_: well, actually, I shouldn't put that in quotes, really, the dropping of GNU is a shame since the GNU utilites make up so much more than the kernel itself.05:03
jeff_fdr: You actually missed my point. Those companies are adding the enterprise features to the kernel05:03
ThomasMFrom what I've seen, TriLUG (the Triangle-area LUG, where RedHat is located) has about the most active and helpful list.  There are people from all over the country that subscribe and contribute.05:04
AbysmalThomasM.. the only allow 127... is in the docs dir.. /var/www/ has allow from all set05:04
jeff_fdr: SGI has managed to get linux to scale to more processors than anyone else05:04
fdrjeff_: I don't think so-- not all "enterprise" features are necessary for all applications, some of which have different requirements.  So we may start seeing many different blends of the kernel, which I suggested may not be a bad thing.05:04
jeff_fdr: yep05:04
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ThomasMAbysmal: Do you have any firewall solution in place on your linux box?  Can another computer _inside_ your LAN view the web site?05:04
fdrjeff_: strange though, SGI is so half-dead.05:05
Communist_FireFoONE HOUR LEFT..05:05
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Maikeruwhen are they releasing it?05:05
josh43General Q: What's the best newsreader app - esp if I am used to RSS Owl?05:05
Maikeruwhat time zone?05:05
Communist_FireFoI think eastern05:05
jeff_fdr: SGI died because they stopped innovating05:05
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Maikerujosh43, I use pan05:05
Communist_FireFoAmerican Eastern Time05:05
MaikeruI love it05:05
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Abysmali can see it from inside the lan.. i haven't added any firewal software.. is there anything on by default??05:05
antDEngineeri know you all prob already mentioned this but what time is breezy set for????05:05
ThomasMCommunist_FireFo: It's supposed to be fully released by 23:59 2005-10-13 GMT, which is about 21 hours from now.05:05
fdrjeff_: I know not much about SGI, only that they were prevalent in my youth.05:06
Maikeru!ubuntuguide05:06
barnettbreezy comes out the 13th! Join #ubuntucountdown for festivities!05:06
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.05:06
Maikeruah, that was the cmd05:06
Maikeru!faq05:06
uboturumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/05:06
Communist_FireFoThomasM:  Yes; but the fridge said it would start at 0:0005:06
fdrjeff_: Sun, in my case, is a more interesting company; they have so much talent, yet just seem to have trouble.05:06
ThomasMCommunist_FireFo: Which was 3 hours ago.05:06
ThomasMCommunist_FireFo: It's GMT.05:06
Communist_FireFoThomasM: Oh05:07
jeff_fdr: sun has lots of talent. They have confused executives who can't make up their minds05:07
antDEngineer!faq05:07
ubotuit has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/05:07
arghetlamrob_p: SUCCESS! W00T!05:07
Communist_FireFoThanks for reminding me05:07
Maikeruhmm05:07
bytefoosun doesnt know what they want to be05:07
Maikeruit shoulda come out the 14th05:07
bytefooso they make poor business decisions05:07
rob_pAbysmal:  By default there should be no packet filtering in place.  Did you reload the Webserver after modifying the config?05:07
Maikeruinstead of 13th05:07
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fdrjeff_:  I have to admit though...the know how to write an operating system.05:07
rob_parghetlam:  Cool!  Glad to hear it.05:07
josh43Maikeru, For RSS?05:07
ThomasMI asked this earlier, and didn't get a response.  Just wanted to confirm: I don't see anything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat for channel rules.  Is there a channel FAQ somewhere out there?  (Usually try to be careful not to step over lines I don't know about.)05:07
Maikeruoh, no josh, sorry05:08
jeff_fdr: Solaris is rock stable. Dtrace far surpasses anything remotely close to what linux has05:08
Maikerufor RSS I just use Mozilla's live bookmark thing05:08
Maikeru(Firefox's)05:08
bytefooi use bloglines.com :/05:08
Razor-Xjeff_: is Solaris more stable than BSD? (never played around with Solaris)05:08
josh43Maikeru, Ah, ok, I was starting to think I had mis-judged pan ;)05:08
MaikeruI don't really use RSS though05:08
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tritium!tell ThomasM about coc05:08
ThomasMjosh43: I'm pretty fond of 'snownews', a console client, but I don't use linux for desktop/graphical machines.05:08
Maikerubut for newsgroup (I thought that's what you meant), I use pan on Linux and when using windows I user thunderbird05:09
tritiumThomasM, the channel rules are basically the Code of Conduct I had ubotu send you05:09
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jeff_Razor-X: I've worked on Solaris 7 and 8. For those, I would say yes. They never die05:09
Abysmaloops05:09
Kira!tell me about coc05:09
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ThomasMtritium: Wouldn't it be wise to have that in the /topic, or is it out of room for more content?05:09
ducky_what is the best way to enable framebuffer on boot?05:09
tritiumThomasM, perhaps, or even the wiki page05:09
Razor-Xjeff_: cool, meh, a high-school student doesen't really have the money to even think about Solaris :P05:10
Maikerunight y'all05:10
fdrRazor-X: isn't 10 free or something? or even Free?05:10
MaikeruI'mma go eat ice cream and fall asleep05:10
bytefoosolaris is free dude :/05:10
josh43ThomasM, That sounds pretty cool, but most of my feeds have inline pics (like dilbert)05:10
Maikeruone last question05:10
Razor-Xfdr: it is?05:10
ThomasMtritium: That'd be good, as that page is for all the various channels.05:10
jeff_Razor-X: Yes you do. You can get older solaris off of ebay for free. I got an Ultrasparc 10 fro $15005:10
Maikeruwhat is win4lin exactly?05:10
fdrRazor-X: I do believe reading something to that effect on slashdot05:10
intelikeyducky_: i thought it was by default05:10
Razor-Xjeff_: oh wow, I may have just enough money for that05:10
ThomasMjosh43: If it's only true of a few of your feeds, then you can always press 'o' to open the current link in your choice of browser.  If a lot of your feeds are graphical, then, yeah, it's useless to you.05:11
Razor-Xjeff_: but, i'm probably going to invest that in books, because I really don't have the _time_ to play around with Solaris yet :P05:11
fdrRazor-X: you could always play with solaris x86 though.05:11
ducky_intelikey, well I did the default install and it wasn't for me05:11
jeff_Razor-X: Also, Solaris 10 is released in a weird sun free license05:11
bytefooit's completely free05:11
bytefoohttp://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp05:11
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cafuego_Not that an ultrasparc is highly useful...05:11
ThomasMjosh43: 'apt-cache search rss' should provide some useful lists.05:11
jeff_Razor-X: Non gpl compatible, but free as in beer05:11
Abysmalanyone running with a wrt54g and have any problems with it??05:11
josh43ThomasM, I'm going to import my opml and see how it goes, thanks :)05:11
Razor-Xjeff_: I've read the Sun free license meself05:11
Maikerusecond time I've heard free as in beer tonight05:11
whiprushcafuego_: you can send them back to sun and get a rebate on an opteron one though. :)05:11
Maikerummm...beer05:11
cafuego_Abysmal: Nope, works fine.05:11
Maikeruneway05:11
jeff_Razor-X: What do you want to do with 'nix, administer, or develop?05:11
bytefooAbysmal, i'm running it and i have no problems with it05:11
josh43Abysmal, YES AND YES05:11
intelikeyducky_: 5.04 or 5.10 ?05:11
fdrjeff_: so they haven't gotten around to completely opening the source yet?  ironic, since I think I also heard DTrace, their "cool thing" is in fact Free05:11
Razor-Xjeff_: both, actually :P, more emphasis on develop though, but I definitely wouldn't mind trying to become a sysadmin05:12
Maikerushutdown -r now05:12
Abysmalcafuego.. are yiu running a web server behind it??05:12
Maikeruwhoops05:12
Maikerunight05:12
frank23Abysmal: I have to reset mine (wrt54g) every few days05:12
ThomasMMaikeru: mmm... beer is right.  Thanks for making me think that, and discover an empty fridge.05:12
jeff_fdr: CCDL or whatever the solaris license name is = free code. But it is not gpl compatible05:12
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ducky_intelikey, Linux localhost 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 11:15:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux05:12
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cafuego_Abysmal: No, it's just being an AP in an office in the city.05:12
Nomad_I have to say this is by far the best distro of linux I have ever used.  Just incredible work!!05:12
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fdrjeff_: beh, maybe not, but does it carry the redistributable/modification properties of the GPL?05:12
Abysmalto config it all i should have to do is point port 80 at my linux box right?05:12
barnettremember to join the countdown! #ubuntucountdown05:12
annexNomad_: thanks, I'll accept donations for all my work05:13
annex;-)05:13
chptsanyone has tired solaris 10 on x86?05:13
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axeusWhere is libsdl installed by default?05:13
jeff_Razor-X: Buy these 3 books. Hacking Linux Exposed, Maximum Security - A hackers guide to protecting your system, and Securing and optimizing linux the hacking solution05:13
bytefoothat book is lol :|05:13
Razor-Xjeff_: how much do they cost, around?05:13
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jeff_Razor-X: Let me go grab them05:13
Razor-XI just spent $36 yesterday on a book for my mom and Knife of Dreams05:14
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fdrjeff_: bah, you cannot defeat the K&R, the SICP, and the P&H :P05:14
axeusLOL n/m05:14
Razor-Xthat felt so... so... draining -_-05:14
axeusI mean't.. where is the configuration file located.05:14
_n00blar_hi all, quick question...I'm trying to open an ssh session from my laptop to my ubuntu box and I get connection refused. Do I have to add my laptop to the hosts.allow file?05:14
fdrjeff_: of course, calling that comparison of book types "specious" would be merely an understatement.05:14
ThomasMAbysmal: I asked you earlier, and it'll help with what's currently going on: can other computers on your LAN (inside your firewall) access the site?05:14
ThomasMAbysmal: If so, then you know the problem is with the firewall.  If not, then you know the problem's with the server.  Divide and conquer.05:14
rob_p_n00blar_:  Did you install an ssh server on you Ubuntu box?05:15
intelikeyducky_: that's odd.  i'v installed hoary several times and it always enables fb by default.  in fact the text is too small on my small monitor, i have to set it to vga=781 or larger.05:15
AbysmalThomasM... yes inside all 192.168 units can hit it05:15
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cafuego_Abysmal: make sure it's not blocking stuff, then port forward port 80.05:15
a_monkeydoes anybody know about my artwiz deal?05:15
_n00blar_rob_p, hmm...well, I don't think so...I do have the ssh client..05:15
jeff_Razor-X: Hacking Exposed 5th ED: $49.99USD, Max Security: $49.99USD, Securing & Optimizing Linux: $56.95USD05:15
arghetlamrob_p: Umm. . .what was the command to set to executable again?05:15
ducky_inc|freaky, I have two monitors maybe that's why it didn't set it up05:15
cafuego_Abysmal: If all else fails, you could try openwrt.05:15
ThomasMAbysmal: I can access your site from here.05:15
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ducky_er that was for intelikey05:15
jeff_Razor-X: That is from the back cover. You could probably find them cheaper on amazon05:15
ThomasMAbysmal: It is correctly forwarding.05:15
Abysmal<cafuego_> what should i allow??05:16
Razor-Xjeff_: wow!05:16
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ThomasMAbysmal: In /var/www, you currently only have a directory called apache2-default, yes?05:16
jeff_Razor-X: You want to learn, that is how you do it.05:16
rob_pducky_:  This may help you enable frame buffer if it's not already enabled:  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2001-12/msg00071.html05:16
weobrather download it for free05:16
intelikeycould be.05:16
Abysmalthomasm.. yes.. if i point it to may windows box i can hit the iis server running, but if i forward to the linux box i get nothing from the outside..05:16
rob_parghetlam:  chmod 755 filename05:16
jeff_Razor-X: To be an admin, you must know how to hack05:16
Abysmalhold05:16
arghetlamrob_p: Thanks.05:17
Razor-Xjeff_: I realized that, meh :P05:17
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_n00blar_rob_p, is that reason why scp will not work?05:17
Razor-Xjeff_: thanks, i'll save up for those05:17
cafuego_Abysmal: port 80 tcp05:17
bytefooyeah and to know how to hack you definately don't buy those books lol :|05:17
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Abysmal<cafuego_> yes.. port 80..05:17
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AbysmalThomasM yes only that one file05:17
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khermansBreezy status?? lol05:17
ThomasMAbysmal: I just said.  I _can_ access your linux box from here.  Please enlighten me on what the problem is.05:17
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Denskidoes anyone know when will the breezy final release will be out?05:17
ThomasMAbysmal: Create a file in /var/www and I'll tell you what its name is to prove it.05:17
Denskii thought it was oct 1305:17
naliothDenski: tomorrow05:17
rob_p_n00blar_:  If you want to install an ssh server, do a, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"05:17
cafuego_Denski: When it's ready.05:17
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josh43khermans, "Not out yet" ;)05:17
Denskioh tomorrow05:18
khermansi know, but...05:18
ThomasMDenski: 23:59 Oct 13 GMT, which is a little less than 21 hours away.05:18
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khermansi am just wondering if it will be before 9 am tomorrow05:18
Denskithanks nalioth05:18
AbysmalI cant hit it from outside..  let me try again05:18
Razor-Xjeff_: I get $3 lunch money per-day, that's pretty much what constitutes my income05:18
cafuego_khermans: If it's ready before then, then yes.05:18
Denskithanks khermans05:18
khermansis there any sort of pager system so that i can be notified immmediately?05:18
jeff_Razor-X: High school with no summer job?05:18
cafuego_khermans: No, nobody has been that desperate about it ;-)05:18
ThomasMkhermans: They started a few hours ago, so some things could be up and ready tomorrow morning, especially if you're using the UK servers.05:18
Razor-Xjeff_: not allowed a summer job05:19
khermansi am desperate!05:19
josh43khermans, You could sic a program on ubuntu.com and have it notify of changes05:19
Razor-Xjeff_: nor do I have the time for one05:19
khermanswe have a LUG event tomorrow, and want to hand out cds05:19
barnettjust a reminder, the countdown is raging! #ubuntucountdown, join now for the fun05:19
cafuego_khermans: yes, we did notice ;-)05:19
khermansjosh43, yeah but didnt want to bog them down05:19
jeff_Razor-X: Learn web design. Thats what I did in high school for money05:19
AbysmalThomas.. what ip did you use???05:19
Razor-Xbarnett: ok, ok :P05:19
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Razor-Xjeff_: I know some web-design, but again, it's time05:19
ThomasMAbysmal: From your /whois: CPE0013103d64b0-CM001225704f0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com05:19
tgakhermans, give them Hoarys and hope they don't notice05:19
Razor-Xjeff_: I would like to manage our network though, because I know much more than our admins do05:19
khermanstga, no way dude05:19
jeff_Razor-X: Those 3 books alone will teach you more than 90% of the script kiddies know05:19
barnettlol05:20
ThomasMAbysmal: Which should work out to 69.192.204.2405:20
jeff_Razor-X: Thats believable. I was the same in high school05:20
Razor-Xjeff_: 2 AP classes and summer courses makes for a lot of work05:20
jeff_yes05:20
louix:-)05:20
Razor-XI'm going to try and ask that, because, I want income :P05:20
josh43khermans, Maybe there is an ubuntu rss feed?05:20
khermansSeriously, I want to be notified ASAP when the torrent is online, I can even help host it on a 1 Gb pipe at my university for the first few days05:20
louix*is there a ubuntu rss feed that i can bookmark05:20
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leonelBreezy come out come out  please !05:21
crimsunkhermans: trust me, when it's out, you'll know.05:21
Abysmalok.. i use dyndns and my alais is kpr.homeip.net and if i use that i get nothing..05:21
khermansyeah, rss is good, but i rather have an sms msg sent to my cell imediately05:21
Razor-Xkhermans: can you give me a memoserv memo if you serve it?05:21
Toma-is there a way to speed up the "Reading database" part of apt? i do have alot of packages installed...05:21
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TrashcanI installed samba (sudo apt-get install samba) and now I can't see the computers on my network05:21
jeff_seeders are gods gift to linux distros05:21
crimsunToma-: install more RAM and get a faster processor.05:21
louixsms msg to cell is expensive for me lol05:21
Trashcanbut I could see them before05:21
khermansRazor-X, memoserv memo?05:21
josh43khermans, There's no automated way to do that05:21
Toma-thought so.05:21
khermansjosh43, yes there is -- package smssend05:21
Razor-Xkhermans: yeah, if i'm not in the channel, memoserv can deliver messages05:21
louixubuntu is running very fast on my 64mb of ram 633mhz machine05:21
louixim surprised05:21
louixjust like the BeOS R5/R6 days05:22
jeff_louix: With gnome?05:22
josh43khermans, I mean specifically sms you when the torrent goes up05:22
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louixwith gnome its somewhat sluggish05:22
louixi run xfce normally05:22
Razor-Xlouix: use ratpoison :P05:22
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louixthanx05:22
josh43louix, Howabout enlightenment e17?05:22
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louixenlightenment runs fine05:22
khermansjosh43, yeah when the symbolic link from releases.ubuntu.com/beezy is updated from RC to Official -- send an sms msg ;-)05:22
weobanyone got WoW workin on ubuntu?05:22
jeff_louix: Ok, I have xfce on my parents 128mb ram athlon k7 and was going to say.05:22
Razor-X... I just realized that the default control character of ratpoison overrides the Mozilla tab control shortcut05:22
fdrRazor-X: heresy! windowmaker, for the functional sorts.05:22
josh43khermans, I'm not a pc, and no :P05:22
Razor-Xfdr: too fat for me :P05:23
louixjeff_: fluxbox is so much better for me05:23
louixjeff_: Im lazy when it comes to configuring the menus for it though ... so i stuck with xfce05:23
jeff_Razor-X: openbox and ion3 are good05:23
Razor-Xoh well, good that I don't use Mozilla :P05:23
jeff_I dont like flux05:23
ThomasMAbysmal: You probably just need to get the dyndns client installed.  Make sure to tell it to look up your external IP, as the IP the machine reports will be useless to the outside world.05:23
louixand icewm05:23
louixi <3 icewm05:23
louixeven though its ugly05:23
Razor-Xjeff_: i've heard a lot about ion (and i've heard of openbox too)05:23
khermansRazor-X, why do you want me to use memoserv again?05:23
louixion3 is like pwm05:23
fdrRazor-X: yet you run emacs. com eon.05:23
Razor-Xlouix: ewww, icewm gives me nightmares of computer-hell05:23
louixLOL05:23
fdrRazor-X: don't get me wrong, I love emacs, but it is quite hefty.05:23
Razor-Xfdr: it makes emacs run smooth like butter05:23
louixRazor-X: icewm is ugly!!05:24
ThomasMAbysmal: From here, that dyndns address you gave works just fine.05:24
jeff_LOG @ fdr05:24
Razor-Xyou have to tradeoff somewhere :P05:24
jeff_*LOL05:24
weoball wm's are ugly05:24
louixRazor-X: I got mine to look like gnome crux theme05:24
AbysmalThomasM.. i have it installed and I just vpn'd into my work machine and its up and working.. I just cant do it from behind the firewall..05:24
bytefoothey're all ugly05:24
louixRazor-X: im more comfortable with xfce though05:24
louixRazor-X: and Gnome05:24
Razor-Xlouix: yeah, I guess05:24
Abysmalmy bad.. not enuff sleep or coffee05:24
jeff_Lets not start a flamewar. Everyone seriously and honestly knows that vim is 10x better than emacs. Only RMS will never admit that05:24
Razor-Xratpoison has it's quirks, as in, every window is maximized05:24
jeff_Emacs claw is not for me05:24
louixthanks for the suggestion05:24
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tritium!offtopic05:24
Razor-Xjeff_: ........ that's flamewar material right there05:24
ubotu#ubuntu should be kept to support for the Ubuntu OS. For random discussion, join #ubuntu-offtopic05:24
ThomasMAbysmal: Inside your firewall, using that address should point to your firewall, not to your machine.  You can either add a line to your '/etc/hosts' file, or configure DNS on your router if it lets you.05:25
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khermansRazor-X, what about memoserv?05:25
intelikeyvim !  yuch05:25
jeff_Razor-X: Where I come from, that is sarcasm05:25
fdrRazor-X: well, it's not that it runs slowly, it just takes up a lot of memory05:25
Razor-Xjeff_: meh05:25
Razor-Xjeff_: sorry, bad with emotion online, I need some sort of intonation to understand it05:25
ThomasMAbysmal: Inside your firewall, resolving that host name gives an IP, which is the external IP of your router/firewall.  Your firewall doesn't forward outgoing port 80 (which would be bad), only incoming, which is good.05:25
Razor-Xfdr: most definitely05:26
Razor-Xfdr: especially with the amount of addons I loaded mine with05:26
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fdrRazor-X: but memory and cpu cycles is of little concern, as far as text editors go these days, although some IDEs (like eclipse) beg to differ05:26
Razor-Xunicode, w3m, erc, tnt, emms, and some more05:26
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jeff_Razor-X: Maybe its coming from unix, but I never caught on to emacs just because I can script in lisp. no thanks05:27
ThomasMI'm amazed.  I type /foolog (my alias for a split-screen /lastlog) more in this channel than any other, solely so I can cope with quantity of input.05:27
louixdoes anyone have ubuntu working on reiserfs?05:27
louixor xfs05:27
fdrjeff_: but lisp is so wonderful! :P05:27
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chiddylouix, i use ubuntu on reiserfs05:27
Razor-Xjeff_: heh, I guess, I grew up in the GNU world, I never actually experienced UNIX05:27
LinuxRoclouix: Yes05:27
tritiumno kidding, ThomasM05:27
sudonimwhen going from the Breezy Release candidates to the normal breezy, do you have to do a dist-upgrade? Or just an upgrade?05:27
louixis there a speed difference from ext305:28
chiddysudonim, dist-upgrade05:28
LinuxRoclouix: not on Reiserfs4 though05:28
Razor-Xlouix: with smaller files, yes05:28
axeusWhat's the name of the Zlib 1.1.0 package?05:28
sudonimchiddy: tks05:28
jeff_fdr: google lisp programmer quotes05:28
louixthanx05:28
axeus( 1.1.0 or greater )05:28
SG1lisp.. ewww..05:28
louixthanx Razor-X+Chiddy+LinuxRoc05:28
louix:D05:28
fdrjeff_: I've heard quite a few first hand, what's the problem? :)05:28
Toma-axeus: libz05:29
ThomasMtritium: Only thing I could think of would be to split by topic group, but that means that regulars and helpers have to divide their attention across multiple channels, which would probably be worse than scrolling and grepping.05:29
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Trashcananyone know why I could access my windows shares before, but after apt-get install samba (following a guide) I can't even see the other computers?05:29
jeff_fdr: Lisp programmers are known for being the weird guys off in the corner. Coming from a 'nix admin, that really says something05:29
Communist_FireFoDid you see the frige yet?05:29
axeusToma-: It can't find it. :S05:29
khermansCan someone tell me what thie line at the top, currently "Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Release Candidate", will say when official is posted via here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/ then i can setup my watch script and combine with smssend -- i will take sms numbers if people also want to be notified05:29
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Trashcanthe workgroup is set properly05:29
tritiumThomasM, yeah, we won't likely do that05:29
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LinuxRocI'm wondering what every ones beast speed tweak has been with Ubuntu.05:29
sector10ThomasM:im not at my notebook anymore but i could not find the problem. ill let you know when i get the chance05:29
fdrjeff_: oh, I know, and some of them are awfully pretentious.05:29
axeusToma-: "E: Couldn't find package libz05:29
axeus"05:29
LinuxRocI meant best not beast05:29
ThomasMsector10: Okay.  I'll see if I can search up anything when I get some free time tomorrow, as well.05:30
josh43ThomasM, WHat I really want is something that separates by discussion, even if it parses it from the raw channel, so 8 sub-windows from one channel05:30
fdrjeff_: but it's basically a language that you are free to build yourself, so as a semantic I think it's in the most powerful class.05:30
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cafuego_LinuxRoc: Install it on a fast cpu with lots of ram. Works best.05:30
Toma-axeus: libzlib maybe?05:30
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LinuxRocthat's a good one05:30
crimsunaxeus: zlib1g-dev?05:30
fdrjeff_: that having been said, I find python an acceptable mix of convenient features, sensible syntax.  The only problem is that it is slow, whereas CL is ~ C++ speed.05:30
Razor-Xmeh, I can't watch mplayer not maximized05:30
Toma-god adept sux. gimme synaptic back :(05:30
jeff_fdr: This quote scares me: pad"Lisp is a programmable programming language."05:30
Razor-X(not that I don't)05:30
Communist_FireFoLinuxRocks? Is that you?05:30
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josh43LinuxRoc, If you really need the speed, try another window manager.. like xfce05:30
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P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:30
khermansbtw, Steve Ballmer will be at our school (University of Massachusetts Amherst) on 10/21, flying in via helicopter to give speech about MS -- but we are trying to show them Linux is big on campus05:30
fdrjeff_: well, it's absolutely correct.05:30
kevogodNomad_, Die.05:30
axeusToma-; Crimsun: Neither of those worked. :S05:30
Abysmali just tries to install something and got "E: Couldn't find package ddclient" any ideas??05:30
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tritiumAbysmal, did you mean dhclient?05:31
GatoMoteadowhen i try to play a wmv i get this: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins05:31
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crimsunaxeus: what are you trying to do?05:31
jeff_fdr: Python excells in 2 things, RAD, and glue. It doesn't have to be fast when it so easily wraps around c05:31
GatoMoteadobut i installed the w32codecs05:31
cafuego_Nomad_: If you don't know what the buttons in xchat do, don't play with them.05:31
tga!codecs05:31
ubotumethinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:31
ThomasMjosh43: You could write something that generates a person-class based on the first few lines of input, and assigns that person to one of your 8 subgroups.05:31
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axeusinstall zsens.. it requires zlib 1.1.005:31
Abysmalno ddclient to atup update dyndns of my ip..05:31
calccool the images are being uploaded :)05:31
khermansGatoMoteado, "sudo aptitude install vlc"05:31
fdrjeff_: I agree, which is partly the reason I like it.05:31
Toma-axeus: zlibc05:31
pestilenceAbysmal: you are trying to install ddclient, or something else?05:31
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Toma-and/or zlib1g05:31
Abysmalddclient05:31
axeusToma: Ah.05:31
tritiumAbysmal, it's in universe05:31
josh43ThomasM, Yeah, I thought about that, but I would prefer per discussion.. I'm playing with the idea of keywords05:31
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P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:31
jeff_fdr: I've been meaning to try python and quit playing with perl. But the camel beckons me so05:32
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fdrjeff_: but there isn't a reason you couldn't write a huge Common Lisp macro that would allow you to simply start typing in statements in python.  That's the power of it.05:32
Toma-stoopid adept/me05:32
chiddyGatoMoteado, did you try what I wrote earlier?05:32
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P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:32
Abysmalok.. how do i change where my repositories are??05:32
josh43ThomasM, The main problem is that for it to /really/ work, it has to be supported on everyone's end, which is not going to happen05:32
uihow do i install this archive? PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run05:32
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pestilence!repositories05:32
ubotumethinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)05:32
GatoMoteadoi just tried the vlc....here's what i get: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc"05:32
GatoMoteadoNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.05:32
GatoMoteado0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:32
fdrjeff_: I've heard that's a hard habit to quit, and may not be a bad one to keep if you keep things under a hundred lines05:32
axeusToma-: zliblg ?05:32
Toma-1g05:32
axeusoh lol05:33
tritiumGatoMoteado, please don't paste.  This channel is too busy for that.05:33
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Toma-;)05:33
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axeusI've already got that.05:33
ThomasMjosh43: Nah.  You could do it yourself.  It would just take a fairly intelligent program that learns bayesian patterns.05:33
GatoMoteadochiddy: i downloaded the codecs and installed them.....totem still gives me the same message05:33
Abysmalthanks for the info.. trying now..05:33
crimsunGatoMoteado: you need universe enabled.05:33
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:33
axeusOh my god... so much of this crap is not installed.05:33
chjchjchjhelp pls; installed base but after reboot I get a PCI bus error that repeats endlessly - can't see anything else...can actually log in but hard as screen scrolling. Want to install apps. laptop w built-in 3com 55505:33
axeusI can understand though... this being more of a desktop os.05:33
uihello? :(05:33
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GatoMoteadocrimsun: how do i do that?05:33
tritiumaxeus, what stuff?05:33
chiddyGatoMoteado, yes, but did you use the deb or the tar.gz from mplayer's site?05:33
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:33
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pestilencechiddy: try stopping hotplug?  sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug stop05:33
axeustritium: just dev stuff...05:33
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jeff_fdr: Getting used to mandatory style guidelines in python is difficult. Where I could do it 50 ways and perl doesn't care05:34
GatoMoteadodeb05:34
tritiumaxeus, did you install build-essential?05:34
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ThomasMjosh43: You could even write a program that decided what your classes were for you, and was able to redefine those as needed.  So, on a day like today, it would create a dump for all the "Where's my new breezy?" messages.05:34
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:34
pestilenceoops i meant chjchjchj05:34
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axeustritium: yeah.. i've got all that .. heh05:34
pestilencechjchjchj: try stopping hotplug?  sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug stop05:34
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ThomasMjosh43: Not saying it's easy, or worth the effort, though.  I doubt if the time spent coding would pay off at all in end result, unless you're just doing it as an exercise for the student.05:34
tritiumaxeus, what else do you need?  xlibs-dev perhaps?05:34
chjchjchjpestilence ok will try that, cheers05:34
axeusIt still can't find zlib.05:34
chiddyGatoMoteado, thats not good it was actually working for me in breezy a few days ago05:34
fdrjeff_: of course.  The problem with perl is that not is there "more than one way to do it!" but it's difficult to do something the same way but twice.05:34
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satafterhthere are alot of people in theis channel, guess ubuntu is really taking of lol05:34
Toma-axeus: what are u trying to do?05:34
uihow do i install this archive? PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run05:34
tritiumaxeus, zlib1g-dev05:35
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P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some Mplayer stuff and the Mplayer plugin with firefox? My videos play fine in firefox, but there is no sound. can anyone help?05:35
josh43ThomasM, Hmmm.. that might work.. Yeah, it would end up being an exercise that got put back into the community05:35
Toma-ui: "sh PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run"05:35
intelikeyP8ntKid: i think most of the people that actually could help are working on the new release.  see the topic.05:35
GatoMoteadohow do i enable universe?05:35
axeustritium: No, I need ZLIB 1.1.0 or greater.05:35
jeff_yes, take a look in #fedora05:35
jeff_not near as many ppl05:35
crimsun!tell GatoMoteado about repos05:35
uithanks toma :)05:35
Toma-axeus: youre compiling something arnt you05:35
axeustritium: I've installed zlibc and zlib1g.. it still can't find it.05:35
P8ntKid!topic05:35
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axeusToma-: Yeah. ZSENS.05:35
crimsunzsens? what's that?05:35
fdrjeff_: although, what do you mean manditory style guidelines?05:35
P8ntKidhelp topic05:35
Toma-but why? use the package in apt05:35
bytefoosuper nintendo05:35
axeusSuper nintendo emulator.05:35
crimsunzsnes, you mean?05:36
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jeff_fdr: forced indentation05:36
fdrjeff_: do you refer to significant whitespace?05:36
axeusToma- :O WHAT05:36
cafuego_!info zsnes05:36
pestilenceP8ntKid: is there sound when you play the video with mplayer (no firefox)05:36
ubotuzsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.360-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 2752 kB05:36
Toma-YEH DAMNIT05:36
ThomasMjosh43: If you wrote your exercise to use external libraries, then yeah, it would be a contribution, as other coders could come along and port it to different IRC applications, news groups, mailing lists, RSS posts, etc.05:36
chiddyopen up terminal and type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  then remove any comments from the lines that refer to the universe repos and then CNTRL+X and answer yes to save05:36
intelikey /topic05:36
pestilenceP8ntKid: by the way, it is /topic you are looking for05:36
axeus:O :O :O05:36
bytefoooh like you couldn't decipher it :/05:36
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tritiumaxeus, 1.2.2 in hoary, 1.2.3 in breezy05:36
fulletsjeff_: you played with haskell much?05:36
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uithanks toma- :)05:36
fdrjeff_: I think this is one of the biggest straw men of python. When developing anything of nontrivial complexity, when indentation is wrong everyone starts making mistakes anyways.05:36
Bad_Magicanyone know why fglrx is super slow under breezy but worked fine under hoary?05:36
Toma-ui no problem05:36
P8ntKidpestilence: There is sound when im playing it in Mpayer and xine outside of firefox.05:36
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n0odl3i just installed peer guardian the deb file05:36
ThomasMjosh43: The something you wrote would have to just take a long list of data and develop a list of categories out of it, and then for each piece it was given later, fit it into predefined categories or define new ones when trends appear.05:36
n0odl3how do i know where it is05:36
n0odl3or how to run it05:37
P8ntKidpestilence: Its just the plugin for firefox isnt working right. It plays the video fine, just no sound.05:37
fdrjeff_: I mean, how often do you see people do anything but change the position of their curly brace in C?05:37
ThomasMjosh43: And, if you wrote that, you'd have a good bolt-on module for any expert machine or budding AI.05:37
tritiumn0odl3, dpkg -L <packagename> to list files in the package05:37
jeff_fullets: C, some C++, perl, fortran, a bit of Cobol. Thats it unfortunately05:37
crimsunzsnes | 1.400-1ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages05:37
jeff_fdr: true05:37
pestilenceP8ntKid: perhaps you need to specify which sound driver to use in the plugin configuration?05:37
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Toma-Bad_Magic: are u sure its running slow? it doesnt outup FPS in breezy05:37
P8ntKidpestilence: How would I do that?05:37
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Toma-*output05:38
pestilenceP8ntKid: http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/config.php05:38
Bad_MagicToma- my 3d screensaver is chugging along at like .2 FPS05:38
fulletsjeff_: haskell has optionally iimportant whitespace, if you use {}; it respects those, otherwise indentation is relevant. sometimes I wish python was similar05:38
fdrjeff_: I suspect that after you use it for about 20 minutes or a hundred lines of code, you'll quickly forget you ever thought it might be an issue.  I though it might be one, too, annd though it may cause bugs where people didn't indent/dedent properly when messing around with code, but it has never happened to me.05:38
Abysmaldamn.. how can i update my sources.list file.. i keep getting rights errors05:38
DShepherdbreezy! breezy! breezy! breezy! breezy! :D05:38
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DShepherd:)05:38
Toma-Bad_Magic: install the 3d drivers for your card05:38
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weoba farty breeze05:38
cafuego_Spam! Spam! Spam!05:38
Bad_MagicToma- fglrx05:38
Communist_FireFoBREEZY BREEZY BREEZY!!!!!05:38
Toma-thats the one05:38
luckyabahow can i share a folder without having to login over the network?05:38
raingrovewhere is our breezy05:38
bytefooremember... #ubuntu-offtopic05:38
bytefoo:/05:38
Bad_Magicsudo apt-get install fglrx ?05:38
pestilenceluckyaba: nfs ...05:39
cafuego_The easter bunny hid it over there -->05:39
Toma-i think so. not an ati user myself05:39
Toma-!ati05:39
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx05:39
P8ntKidpestilence: what should i edit in mine?05:39
Toma-there u go05:39
jeff_raingrove: update your sources.list and dist-upgrade your way into paradise05:39
pestilenceP8ntKid: it tells you on that page i sent you...05:39
raingrovejeff_ hello? but the official release is not out yet right?05:39
jeff_raingrove: If you don't do a clean install though, the bootsplash doesn't work05:39
raingrovejeff_ i have the RC right now05:39
jeff_raingrove: So do I05:39
pestilenceP8ntKid: the configuration for mplayer that you are using right now is either in ~/.mplayer or /etc/mplayer*05:39
raingrovejeff_ u mean the release is out?05:39
cycomhrm.. What's up with my network interfaces acting all funky.  Most of the time, my wireless is eth0 and my wired is eth2, but randomly it switches to wireless eth1 wired eth0 (which quite frankly, I prefer)05:39
jeff_no05:39
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luckyabapestilence: im using samba and in order to access my shares you have to put in a username/pass. i dont want it that way05:40
jeff_Night guys! I have to work tomorrow05:40
fdrman, I was so looking forward to getting python 2.4.2 today05:40
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fdrjeff_: goodnight05:40
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fdroops, a bit too late.05:40
bytefooits in the RC :|05:40
nickrudif want to contribute to the bittorrent, what, where, and when :)05:40
pestilenceP8ntKid: whatever sound driver it is using, use that for the plugin.  option 2 is mv ~/.mplayer ~/.mplayer-broken05:40
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fdrbytefoo: I am not inclined to install an RC merely for this, I may as well just update to the real thing05:40
axeus!info zsnes05:40
ubotuzsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.360-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 2752 kB05:40
Toma-axeus: if you ever REALLY need to compile something, you need the -dev packages. eg, zlibc-dev05:40
Abysmali figured it out... using sudo can be a real pain in the ass...05:41
pestilenceluckyaba: don't know too much about samba, but why can't you just make it accessible to anonymous users?05:41
bytefoosuit yourself05:41
raingrovejeff_ i upgraded from 5.4 and i have bootsplash05:41
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pestilenceluckyaba: in the /etc/samba configuration file05:41
fdrbytefoo: shrug.  I mean, I do like the anonymous generator syntax, but a few days isn't going to hurt me.05:41
luckyabapestilence: ill lookkk again05:41
cycomluckyaba: wait05:41
bytefoono05:41
ThomasMAbysmal: You're not required to use sudo.  It's just a good security tool.05:41
P8ntKidpestilence: Yes, but i dont understand exactly what i need to edit...05:41
n0odl3does anyone know where peer gaurdain would show up?05:41
cycomluckyaba: why don't you want it that way?05:41
bytefoobut there are not that many package differences between RC and Final05:42
n0odl3im sure i installed the ,deb file05:42
bytefoojust fixes :/05:42
axeusEr. I can't find the package.05:42
ThomasMAbysmal: 'sudo passwd', assign a root password, and use your own methods.  Just don't expect an audit trail.05:42
tritiumn0odl3, see my last message to you05:42
n0odl3i did05:42
pestilenceluckyaba: something like public = yes05:42
n0odl3but it keeps saying not installed05:42
fdrbytefoo: fixes matter ;) I write enough bugs myself, no need to get around ones that aren't mine.  cost vs reward is pretty meh05:42
pestilenceP8ntKid: the line that says ao=05:42
tritiumn0odl3, just use the package name, not the full file name05:42
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n0odl3but i already typed in sudo dpkg -i filename.deb05:42
n0odl3?05:42
luckyabacycom: i have media center on my network to play mp3's, movies, etc. off my computer on the living room TV05:42
pestilenceP8ntKid: _a_udio _o_utput05:43
n0odl3what do you mean?05:43
axeusAh.. I'll do it later.05:43
P8ntKidpestilence: ao=esd.oss,arts thats what is there right now.05:43
n0odl3should i try using synaptic?05:43
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ThomasMn0odl3: Yes.05:43
P8ntKidpestilence: What do you want me to change it to?05:43
luckyabacycom: it doesn't have support to do logins.. only anonymous access05:43
cycomluckyaba: odd.05:43
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cycomluckyaba: I ask because I wanted to set up a samba share that I could mount05:43
P8ntKidpestilence: This is in my /ect/mplayerplug-in.conf05:43
cycomluckyaba: I did it already though :)05:43
pestilenceP8ntKid: i would make it ao=alsa ... that works in hoary.  not sure how breezy is set up05:44
luckyabacycom: lol.. right on05:44
tritiumn0odl3, e.g., filename = firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20_i386.deb, but packagename = firefox05:44
crimsunbreezy works fine with ALSA.05:44
pestilenceP8ntKid: right, that's fine.05:44
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AbysmalThomasM.. i read that doing that can really screw up the system05:44
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cycomluckyaba: the anonymous logins probobly still uses a username/pass thing, it just accepts a 'standart'05:44
P8ntKidpestilence: Restart firefox and try again?05:44
cycom'standard'* I can type. honest.05:44
pestilenceP8ntKid: sure, why not.05:44
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luckyabacycom: as long as it doesn't prompt for a login im fine05:44
cycomluckyaba: are you trying to connect from linux?05:45
n0odl3wait its installed05:45
ThomasMAbysmal: You're right, but it's how *nux systems have been managed and will continue to be managed for years to come.  sudo is a fairly recent development, and allows finer control of user access.05:45
cycomluckyaba: as in from ubuntu?05:45
n0odl3i cant even "reinstall it05:45
ThomasMs/\*nux/\*nix/;05:45
GatoMoteadook, i enabled universe, then i uninstalled and reinstalled w32codecs.....still no go05:45
n0odl3does any one here have peer guardian?05:45
luckyabano.. its a small media device that has a hard drive and networking05:45
ThomasMAbysmal: sudo is a very useful tool.  It's not the only way of doing things.05:45
Bad_Magicanyone else have any ideas as to why my fglrx isnt working for shit under breezy (stuttering like crazy in my screen saver now that i updated)05:45
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tritiumn0odl3, so if it's installed, you can list the files05:45
Toma-n0odl3: ive just got a huge hosts file05:46
ubuntukinghello all05:46
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P8ntKidpestilence: Now it doesnt even play the video.05:46
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cycomBad_Magic: Xorg get fubard?05:46
n0odl3how would i do that?05:46
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P8ntKidpestilence: just a black screen05:46
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Abysmali just updated from hoary.. and now have changed my sources.list to point to the universe urls.. is there a easy way I can update eveything without having to answer yes to everything??05:46
Bad_Magiccycom: my .conf file still shows fglrx05:46
cycomluckyaba: I mean what are you trying to connect to it FROM05:46
ducky_how do you get tux to show on the top off the screen while ubuntu boots?05:46
pestilenceP8ntKid: strange.05:46
erickhow can I disable services that are not needed05:46
pestilenceP8ntKid: so change it back ;)05:46
cycomBad_Magic: dunno. :(05:46
ducky_I added vga=791 to the grub config and that didn't work05:47
Bad_Magicmakes two of us05:47
n0odl3how would i do that?05:47
bytefooboot-icons05:47
GatoMoteadobrb05:47
tritiumerick, with update-rc.d05:47
luckyabacycom: ohh ubuntu05:47
pestilenceP8ntKid: seems like you may have messed up the configuration file, as that shouldn't have affected video playback.05:47
thewayofzenducky_,  i dont know how but if u find out fill me in i wanna know.05:47
bytefoothere's a thread in the forums on how to do it ducky_05:47
ubuntukingin a few minutes hello badger!!!05:47
tritiumn0odl3, with dpkg -L <packagename>, like I told you05:47
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cycomluckyaba: you can set it up in your etc/fstab to mount it aws a drive.05:47
ThomasMAbysmal: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'05:47
pestilenceP8ntKid: one thing you might try is turning on debugging for the plugin, then running firefox from  command line and watching the terminal for errors05:47
qt2so what time tomorrow is breezy supposed to be released?05:47
stpereubuntuking, really?05:48
ubuntukingi thought it was right at midnite05:48
raingrovetoday05:48
pestilenceP8ntKid: in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf put debug=105:48
ubuntukingisn't it05:48
Xenguywoohoo - history :-)05:48
qt2oh? at midnight?05:48
qt2EST?05:48
n0odl3arrgh keeps telling me not installed05:48
pestilenceubuntuking: what timezone :)05:48
raingrovemaybe South African Time05:48
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raingrovehaha05:48
cycomluckyaba: //(ip address)/(share name) (media/mountpoint) smbfs (options),username=(whatever you need for anonymous), password=(see previous) 0 005:48
ubuntukingi dont' know05:48
tritiumn0odl3, are you using just the packagename, and not the full filename?05:48
ubuntukingdo you?05:48
n0odl3i tried both05:48
cycomluckyaba: that's how I did it for my samba share05:48
Toma-n0odl3: did it install properly?05:49
n0odl3apparently not05:49
Abysmalanyonehere got the kde desktop installed and running??05:49
qt2raingrove: it'd be far past midnight  by now if it were going on the time in south africa05:49
cycomluckyaba: what kind of network device is it? a Linksys USB2.0 Network Storage dealy?05:49
n0odl3considering it tells me not installed05:49
P8ntKidpestilence: No, if i put a period after ao=alsa so its ao=alsa. it works.05:49
Toma-Abysmal: yes05:49
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tritiumn0odl3, what are you putting as the packagename?05:49
pestilenceP8ntKid: cool05:49
Abysmalany problems Toma-?05:49
n0odl3peerguardian05:49
Toma-nope05:49
raingroveqt2: i see05:49
pestilenceP8ntKid: maybe they have changed the syntax.  :dunno:05:49
erickthanks tritium05:49
P8ntKidpestilence: I dont have that file05:49
Trashcanhehe brad05:49
Toma-n0odl3: try peerguardiannf05:50
Abysmaldid you upgrade it or did you install kubuntu??05:50
Trashcanoops..05:50
Toma-actually,05:50
tritiumerick, sure.  If you need an example of how that's used, see the Debian Reference section on how to disable X on boto05:50
tritiumboo05:50
tritiumboot even05:50
pestilenceP8ntKid: if your sound works now, then who cares :)05:50
Toma-n0odl3: try peerguardnf05:50
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P8ntKidpestilence: It doesn't...05:50
P8ntKidpestilence: I never said it did.05:50
satafterhwhat does NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D50 88 mean05:50
pestilenceP8ntKid: then create the file.05:50
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P8ntKidok05:50
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crimsunsatafterh: you need to import the appropriate archive key.05:50
n0odl3neither worked05:50
pestilenceP8ntKid: i interpreted "it works." as sound works05:51
crimsunsatafterh: see wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary05:51
Abysmalso when tommorow can we expect the oficial breezy release05:51
Toma-what is the file name you installed?05:51
luckyabacycom: mediagate05:51
satafterhthankss05:51
P8ntKidpestilence: Oh, i mean, if i have a period at the end, the video works, if i dont have the period the video doesnt work.05:51
cycomluckyaba: ah.  so did you try what I said?05:51
n0odl3neither worked05:51
cycomluckyaba: and more importantly, did it work?05:51
ThomasMAbysmal: What time zone are you in?05:52
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pestilenceP8ntKid: strange.  so do the debug thing and see what kind of messages you get05:52
danguyDoes anyone know about the ReleaseParty in Victoria, Canada?05:52
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erickk tritum just asking im not successful to log on my webmin, I used root and my user but still login failed05:52
AbysmalEastern05:52
luckyabacycom: im doing it right now05:52
cycomluckyaba: good luck! :)05:52
ThomasMAbysmal: According to the bit on fridge.ubuntu.com, you should have it at the latest at 8:00 P05:52
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raingroveok05:52
ThomasMAbysmal: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/505:52
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raingrove9 MINUTes LEFT05:52
cycomraingrove: till what?05:53
Abysmalwhat abou kubuntu.. is it also to be officuially released as well?05:53
raingrovetill the release of kubuntu at least i guess05:53
Abysmalthanks for the url..05:53
raingrovehttp://www.kubuntu.org/download.php05:53
raingrovelook at the links05:53
raingrovethanks to fatejudger05:53
cycomraingrove: ...who cares?05:53
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raingrovethe thing is05:53
raingrovekubuntu gets released at the same time as ubuntu05:53
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cycomraingrove: the thing is, why do we need it announced that we have to wait longer?05:53
Abysmalok.. but is that link the official or the RC??05:54
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qt2err... are the hoary mirrormax backports mirrors gone?05:54
raingroveRC as of  now05:54
cycomraingrove: Get all noisy and stuff when it's released.05:54
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Razor-Xcycom: because people are excited?05:54
fdrqt2: suppsoedly, for official05:54
raingrovebut it's the sameURL as official05:54
naliothqt2: mirrormax will never return05:54
qt2why? :o05:54
naliothubotu: tell qt2 about backports05:54
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a_monkeycan somebody please help me install the artwiz fonts?05:54
cycomRazor-X: well don't give us these silly random intervals :) 9 minutes! 6 minutes, 22 seconds, 6 and a half miliseconds!05:54
qt2ah, so they've been integrated into the ifficial now...05:55
P8ntKidpestilence: Ok, i made a mplayerplug-in.conf file in my .mplayer directory.05:55
gleesondI'm tring to make this program and I keep getting this error: Makefile:7: config.mak: No such file or directory05:55
gleesondmake: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.  Stop.05:55
a_monkeyapt-get install xfonts-artwiz does not work05:55
P8ntKidpestilence: And i put debug=1, what should i do now?05:55
Razor-Xcycom: I did that for Knife of Dreams, i'm not that excited about Ubuntu :P05:55
a_monkeyneither does the regular way in the artwiz README05:55
Abysmalwhat happens in 9 minuts??05:55
cycom*sigh*05:55
crimsunnothing.05:55
Toma-how about, It'll be released at exactly the right time? or It'll be released when its released?05:55
crimsundon't pay attention to the clock05:55
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ompso is breezy going to be released today?05:55
crimsunit will be released when it's ready.05:55
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raingrovei hope EST 12.0005:56
raingrovethat is 4 minutes from now05:56
ompheh05:56
Lickerhow do you manualy unistall something?05:56
cycomok, if we need the countdown THAT BAD lets make an ubuntu release countdown timer package that automagically gets the remaining time till release from the servers of hell.05:56
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Razor-Xyes, 4 minutes05:56
nayifthe smartlink on breezy broken "i can not use modem with breezy" any idea or news here?05:56
pestilenceP8ntKid: now run firefox from a terminal.  when you open up a movie, it should print debug info on the terminal05:56
dutchcrimsun: getting a straight answer from can be difficult :)05:56
Razor-Xso, I just s/hoary/breezy/ my sources.list?05:56
fdrcycom: ah, you can bear with it for a day every six months, right?05:56
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intelikeyLicker: dpkg -i <blah>05:56
ThomasMraingrove: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/5 says GMT05:57
caustictwinwhat program supports rar files in linux?05:57
Razor-Xraingrove: yeah, that's what I thought, it's GMT05:57
pestilencecaustictwin: unrar-nonfree05:57
fdralthough if I bothered to know where this information was posted I would write a script next time05:57
carthikcaustictwin, rar05:57
cycomfdr: I actually like the idea of the countdown timer.  that would be kinda cool.... :)05:57
raingroveif it's GMT then shouldn't it be released by now05:57
cycomTO THE CODE TANK!05:57
ThomasMraingrove: Read the link.05:57
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fdrcycom: ...don't you mean the mobile/copter?05:57
Razor-Xraingrove: October 1305:57
raingroveStart: 2005-10-13 00:0005:57
raingroveEnd: 2005-10-13 23:5905:57
raingroveTimezone: Etc/GMT05:57
crimsunThomasM: do'nt pay it any attention.05:57
cycomno. it's a tank. I said so.05:57
ubuntukingi see the breezy iso at distrowatch.com05:57
Gamer-LaptopIs one of the repositories borked for breezy? Been getting Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)05:57
ThomasMAnd that, people, is the last time I'm answering that question.  If you folks can figure out time differences, 's'not my problem anymore.05:57
raingroveso it can happen any time between 00 to 23:59?05:58
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Razor-Xraingrove: yes, anywhere in that interval of 1000 milliseconds05:58
calcraingrove: it will likely be released RSN ;)05:58
Razor-Xraingrove: how aggravating, no?05:58
pestilenceRazor-X: looks more like 23 hours 59 minutes to me05:58
ThomasMraingrove: It is planned to be finished by 23:59 GMT, which depending on if they're using true GMT time, or actual London time, could be either 19 or 20 hours from right now.05:59
fdror, for a family guy reference: "To the hindenpeter!" :crash in joe's yard: HOW DO YOU AFFORD THESE THINGS?!?05:59
Razor-Xbetween 23:59 and 0:00 is 1 minute05:59
pestilenceRazor-X: not on the same day it isn't05:59
P8ntKidpestilence: Ok, i played the movie. What should i do now?05:59
cycomsomewhere, some guy is hoping he finishes taring up that last package05:59
raingroveRazor-X,  no 00 to 23:5905:59
Gamer-LaptopTo the petercopter!05:59
raingrove23 hours and 59 minutes05:59
pestilenceP8ntKid: did anything print to the terminal?05:59
Razor-Xpestilence: oh, I didn't see the start and end05:59
Razor-Xahhh, yes, I guess there's a 24 hour leeway05:59
shekharcrimsun:  are you there?05:59
raingrovedamnnnnnn05:59
cycomMIDNIGHT!06:00
P8ntKidpestilence: It just says the url i went to.06:00
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pestilenceP8ntKid: bump the debug info up to 206:00
cycommy watch synced to the atomic clock says so06:00
Razor-Xraingrove: settle down, check your latency to the servers and _then_ think whether you'll be the first or not06:00
atfa30.910 views of the breezy release topic on the forum06:00
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crimsunshekhar: yes, but kinda busy atm06:00
fdrindeed, to the peter copter.06:01
P8ntKidpestilence: On wich one? The one in /ect, .mozilla or .mplayer?06:01
pestilenceatfa: this distro got popular fast, huh.06:01
Razor-Xraingrove: you do know that ntp.ubuntu.com is off by two seconds?06:01
pestilenceP8ntKid: the one you put debug=1 in06:01
raingrovei dont sync my time with time server06:01
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pestilenceP8ntKid: probably ~/.mplayer/somethingplugin.conf06:01
shekharcrimsun:  how do i login to my afs server? i think i installed everything ok...06:01
Razor-Xraingrove: that's even worse :P06:01
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nayif* is this user whos only use modem on the world today06:02
KiraMan, I pity Jack Thompson's relatives...06:02
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shekhardoes anyone else here use openafs/kerberos?06:02
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glickits 12.02am is breezy released?06:02
calcglick: not yet06:03
calcglick: being tested06:03
P8ntKidIt wont let me save it now.06:03
Kiraglick: darn it! you stole my question! :P06:03
P8ntKidpestilence: It wont let me save it now.06:03
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cycombastards! :)06:03
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bytefooand then...time for dapper drake :D06:03
glicki thought oct 13 was the day the world would join in celebration at the release of sleezy slutty06:03
glicki mean breezy badger06:03
calcglick: if i had to guess i would say it will be released within next 24hr06:03
nayifglick when it out then do update or update program my tell you about it auto06:04
pestilenceP8ntKid: did you do it under sudo?06:04
glickopenoffice 2.0 god delated06:04
basscrdoes someone know how do i change that ugly brown background when ubuntu starts ?06:04
glickgod = got06:04
Abysmali like sleezy slutty.. that would be a k00l distro06:04
pestilenceP8ntKid: are you certain that the movie you are trying to watch *has* audio?  try the movies at http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html06:04
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Gamer-Laptopbasser: System>Preferences06:04
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shekharhello can someone help me with openafs and kerberos? i think i have installed the client and modules but don't know how to login and test...06:04
Gamer-LaptopYou can change the themes for pretty much everything06:04
pestilenceP8ntKid: for example, the AVI (radius cinepak) definetly has audio06:05
raingroveAbysmal, ubuntu was called LinuXXX or "Porn Distro" due to the nude wallpapers remember?06:05
gleesondwhat is the command to global update i.e. the kernal?06:05
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P8ntKidpestilence: k, i saved it.06:05
pestilenceraingrove: why wasn't i let in on this info?06:05
calcraingrove: i don't recall any nude wallpapers06:05
P8ntKidpestilence: Its a wmv file. I jave tried it with a bunch of diferent ones too.06:05
glickpestilence, thats a kool song ffrom Kreator06:05
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calcoh well not frontal anyway06:06
Abysmalnope.. thats before my time with it..06:06
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pestilenceglick: what is?06:06
glickpestilence,06:06
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nayifraingrove, why ubuntu on firest realese do that?06:06
pestilencesomebody wrote a song after me?06:06
pvhpestilence: done, just finished06:06
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s3[mn] rainHi I am trying to exlude some directories from a tar archive, but I get "tar: --exclude=/var/www/forum/downloads: Cannot stat: No such file or directory" when the directory clearly exists on the file system06:06
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pestilencepvh: huh?06:07
joelitoAre the devs wating for gmt +12 to reach the 13th?06:07
WhyvasLTcan't compile linux kernel modules06:07
calcnayif: the only bad press is no press06:07
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WhyvasLTwhat do i have to do to get the kernel modules ?06:07
raingrovenayif, calc, pestilence / there was an app called "ubuntu_calendar" that downloaded "art" wallpaper everymonth. it is now discontinued06:07
P8ntKidpestilence: It didnt give me an error.06:07
calcnayif: though that may not be the real reason behind it, stirring up a lot of people tends to get your name spread quickly06:07
joelitoerm i meant gmt -1206:07
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calcraingrove: yes i know06:07
pestilenceP8ntKid: i'm runnin out of ideas...06:07
pvhraingrove: damn prudish USA06:07
Z0idbergnow it's available... :)06:07
P8ntKidpestilence: Oh.06:07
calcraingrove: i've used ubuntu since mid last year and debian for 7 years before :)06:07
tritiumpvh, none of that, please06:07
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pestilenceraingrove: why.  why?  WHY??????06:08
pestilenceseriously??06:08
P8ntKidpestilence: alot of people on the forums are having the problem too.06:08
pestilencesweet!06:08
cpalmayay06:08
raingrovepestilence, yes. alot of people complained06:08
joelitoWooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohohohohohoho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:08
P8ntKidpestilence: Like, my sound used to work. But for some reason about a week ago. it stopped.06:08
ompshould i just install ubuntu breezy rc now or wait till the official version is out :p06:08
pestilenceraingrove: well, as long as there is a warning...06:08
naliothjoelito: may we help you?06:08
pestilenceomp: see topic06:08
satafterh5.10 release, is that the finale06:08
raingroveoh shit06:08
raingroveis it released?06:08
ompoh06:09
ompwow06:09
crimsunplease wait for the mirrors to sync.06:09
bytefooahhsoo06:09
ThomasMOkay. My bedtime has arisen. Good night, folks.06:09
omppestilence: thanks a bunch (i checked 5 minutes ago and it wasnt released)06:09
joelitoOh I meant that for the release06:09
cycomcrimsun: congrats!06:09
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bytefoohow long does that normally take?06:09
pestilencecrimsun: don't worry, i won't update until tomorrow morning ;)06:09
tritiumgood night, ThomasM06:09
crimsunat least one mirror is already active with 5.10.06:09
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joelitoKudos to the Development Team :) !!!06:09
pestilenceP8ntKid: in hoary or breezy?06:09
d3viceany torrents ?06:09
glickdamn the servers are gonna get flacked06:09
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bytefoooh sorry, i'm confusing the repos with the mirrors :|06:09
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calcd3vice: look at the torrent site06:09
durtdoes edubuntu have child porn?06:09
d3vicecalc, where ?06:10
pestilenceP8ntKid: i had all sorts of trouble with the default sound system in hoary...esd06:10
P8ntKidpestilence: Hoary06:10
dabaRdurt: are you stupid?06:10
joelitodurt: lol06:10
calchttp://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/06:10
pestilenceP8ntKid: i would disable esd, see if that helps06:10
pestilence!esd06:10
P8ntKidpestilence: How do i do that?06:10
bytefoowell i guess i'm up to date lol :)06:10
tritiumdurt, that's not appropriate here06:10
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P8ntKid!esd06:10
calcdoesn't look like it has been updated yet06:10
d3vicecalc, thx, this is the final breezy version ?06:10
jgrieves_oh is she out?06:10
chjchjchjJust installed, had a problem that has gone on reboot...but all I have is the base system. How can I tell it to install the graphical interface and etc?06:10
calcthe breezy ones are most likely rc06:10
pestilence!tell P8ntKid  about esd06:10
dabaRdurt has a stupid leave message too.06:10
calcd3vice: probably not yet, it will be called 5.10 afaik06:10
d3vicecalc, om06:10
d3vicecalc, ok06:10
pestilencewhy did ubuto message me instead of broadcasting to the channel?06:10
WhyvasLTcan't compile linux kernel modules06:10
WhyvasLTwhat do i have to do to get the kernel modules ?06:10
Trashcanif we're already running breezy preview, do we have to install anyway?06:11
durthow is my away message stupid?06:11
raingroveis it really released????06:11
jgrieves_don't be throwing links out if their linked to the RC :)06:11
raingroveis it really released???? i still see the words "release candidate"06:11
joelitochjchjchj: apt-get install (k)(x)ubuntu-desktop06:11
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jgrieves_goodnes your going to freak people out06:11
omphmm06:11
ompi can't find an iso :p06:11
glickso did breezy just get released or what?06:11
crimsunyes, it's released. The mirrors are syncing. Be patient.06:11
dabaRdurt: not away, the one you show the channel when you leave. about your princess.....06:11
P8ntKidpestilence: Want me to install it? cuase the ubuntu bot told me to go to a thread to install it.06:11
d3vicecalc, there are 2 or 3 non rc torrent on that page, is it ?06:12
pestilenceP8ntKid: install what?06:12
dabaRraingrove: /topic06:12
chjchjchjjoelito ta. Is that a choice thing, the "k" / "x" or literally what I type?06:12
durtdabar, i changed it a couple of days ago06:12
P8ntKidpestilence: Esd and Alsa06:12
crimsunhere, I'll make it less confusing.06:12
dabaRdurt: good, I did not like it.06:12
dabaRhaha06:12
pestilenceP8ntKid: they are both installed already06:12
nayif*/ smartlink not work with breezy @#?#?06:12
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cycomcrimsun: are there new packages and fings as well?06:12
calcd3vice: afaik it will have the name 5.10 in it and not be rc06:12
pestilenceP8ntKid: you just need to disable esd.  did that thread not explain it?06:12
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durtdabar, you dont like classic porn lines?06:12
d3vicecalc, it doesnt say rc06:12
raingrovesig06:13
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josh43can I do a dist-upgrade yet? :)06:13
pestilenceP8ntKid: no. don't follow those instructions.06:13
joelitochjchjchj: yes it's choice06:13
raingrovesigh..my browser still shows Release candidate06:13
calcd3vice: oh wow i didn't see those, yea they are probably the final one06:13
d3vicecalc, scoll down near the end, could it be the those06:13
pestilenceP8ntKid: sorry.  assumed ubotu would have good info.06:13
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pestilence!alsa06:13
ubotuI guess alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206306:13
P8ntKidpestilence: yea.06:13
crimsunjosh43: a dist-upgrade will give you 5.10, yes.06:13
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pestilenceno good.06:13
joelitochjchjchj: for xubuntu you need to enable the universe repositorie in breezy06:13
chjchjchjI hate choices...easiest for a n00b?06:13
raingrovecrimson: do u think there will be any more upgradable packages?06:13
nayifi have breezy rc can i upgrade the 5.04? from this cd06:14
josh43crimsun: nice, thank you, I think I'm going to do that now :)06:14
slomorboI, i want to know in what moment of the day ubuntu 5.10 will be disponible06:14
joelitochjchjchj: Hoary has only ubuntu and kubuntu06:14
pestilenceP8ntKid: you just have to disable the sound daemon (it's in a submenu of gnome, don't know exactly what it's called) and set the default sound system to alsa06:14
naliothnayif: of course you can06:14
dabaRcrimsun: I also had an issue where I was downloading a torrent of the Hoary install cd, recently, and it turned out to be the breezy install cd, which sucks, cause I burned it ont over 20 cds...06:14
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robertjis dapper broken yet ;)06:14
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naliothrobertj: that happens next week06:14
slomorbo i want to know in what moment of the day ubuntu 5.10 will be availible06:14
chjchjchjjoelito its badger I have installed06:14
P8ntKidpestilence: Os there a command to do it? Cuase im not in gnome.06:14
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budluvaits available right now06:14
nayifnalioth, did i need to say "my hero of yestrday and tommoro"06:14
pestilenceP8ntKid: is esd running, then?  ps aux |grep esd06:15
slomorbothe preview one06:15
naliothnayif: about what?06:15
budluvachange your sources.list from hoary to breezy and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade06:15
pestilenceP8ntKid: i don't know, and i'm not in gnome either :)06:15
jgrieves_does anyone know how to make GDM load X on a user basis06:15
slomorbonot the real one06:15
jgrieves_so i can enable extensions for specifc users?06:15
nayifnalioth, just a joke06:15
cycomslomorbo: see! We need a package with a countdown timer!06:15
Lickerhow do you know if Linux was to get a virus?06:15
raingroveoh man the syncing is taking a little too long06:15
WhyvasLTif i have the beta of breezy and did all the updates, is it the same as the official release?06:15
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jgrieves_yes, WhyvasLT06:15
raingroveWhyvasLT,  me is wondering too06:16
cycomslomorbo: like at nasa! but we won't have planned holds at t-minus 5 minutes06:16
crimsunWhyvasLT: if you update now, yes.06:16
budluvaLicker, if your worried about antivirus, check out clamav06:16
nayifLicker, bill gets will send you a message06:16
dabaRLicker: you keep it clean, and only install from oficial repos, and you never get virus.06:16
jgrieves_anyone experienced in GDM?06:16
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raingrovecrimsun/ i am doing apt-get -update, but i dont see any upgradable package06:16
P8ntKidpestilence: When i did that comand you just told me to do it have me an error and listed all the flags i could use.06:16
crimsunraingrove: that's fine.06:16
cycomraingrove: HAAAAA HAAAAA! All that waiting and you already have what was released.06:16
a_monkeyshould /etc/fonts/local.conf be lacking in my system?06:16
cycomraingrove: sorry.06:16
pestilenceP8ntKid: what command?06:16
Lickerwell. a friend sent a link  though IM and i clicked it etc and then she came back to the pc and was like crap dont click that thats a virus!  :/06:17
raingrovecycom, oh really.06:17
pestilenceP8ntKid: ps aux |grep esd ?06:17
Lickerso i was j/w06:17
Licker:p06:17
cafuego_slomorbo: Once it's actually release, you will know. Just like everyone else. You could try bothering the actual developers for a time, if you think that would help at all.06:17
P8ntKidpestilence: Yes.06:17
raingrovecycom, all the while i had the final release?06:17
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pestilenceP8ntKid: that's good syntax.  don't know what the problem is.  you running gnu/linux? :-D06:17
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cycomraingrove: all the packages ther were in it, I guess :)06:17
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raingrove:P06:17
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P8ntKidpestilence: ??? Im on hoary06:17
jgrieves_anyone experienced in GDM?06:17
joelitothe global mirror already has breezy full06:17
d3viceyeah!!!! it's out on torrent!!!06:17
dabaRjgrieves_: ask ubotu about ask06:17
pestilenceP8ntKid: so `ps aux |grep esd` should work just fine.06:18
cycomcrimsun: so where's the new testing release?06:18
jgrieves_dabaR its a pretty complex GDM question06:18
joelitoWhat's your problem06:18
chjchjchj1 more n00b q...is there an apt-get thingy for an irc client, so I can get back here to ask more dumb q's? :-)06:18
jgrieves_does anyone know how to make GDM load X on a user basis06:18
raingroveoh dont tell me i already have 5.1006:18
raingrovei want something more!06:18
jgrieves_adding a .xsession file doesn't eem to work06:18
pestilenceP8ntKid: maybe this would help:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28disable%29%7C%28esd%2906:18
crimsun5.10 was not sealed until a few minutes ago06:18
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joelitoxchat is installed by default (ubuntu-desktop)06:18
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a_monkeycan somebody running breezy just quickly tell me if they have a file, /etc/fonts/local.conf06:19
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cafuego_raingrove: You could install Hoary and then upgrade again, if that makes you feel better.06:19
raingrovewait06:19
P8ntKidpestilence: K, i got the comand to work.06:19
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crimsunthus, while your package status may not need to be updated, you don't actually have Ubuntu 5.10 until right now.06:19
dabaRjgrieves_: you will have more luck if you ask the question. and, try to make it easy to answer. That is, if you are loking for information. If you are looking for a design of a solution, well, think about it, come up with a design, and then ask for information you are missing.06:19
cameron_hey guys!!!! ubuntu RUELS!!06:19
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raingrovei keep fetching updates, but i dont get any upgradable packages06:19
chjchjchjjoelito thanks for all the help; hopefully will be back here using xchat soon!06:19
cafuego_a_monkey: I don't.06:19
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P8ntKidpestilence: jon      13475  0.0  0.1   3032   716 pts/1    S+   00:16   0:00 grep esd06:19
aztektumit rules too06:19
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dabaRcameron_: thank you for telling us.06:19
a_monkeycafuego_: good06:19
tgacameron_, like omg!!!1106:19
pestilenceP8ntKid: you're not running esd.06:19
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crimsunraingrove: that's because it's sealed. You have 5.10 already.06:19
joelitonp06:19
pestilenceP8ntKid: so, am *really* out of ideas now ;)06:19
P8ntKidpestilence: Ok?06:19
P8ntKidpestilence: Ok.06:19
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P8ntKidpestilence: Its ok. Thanks for the help though.06:20
cameron_can someone help me to decide what breezy kernel to pick for my pentium M system?06:20
pestilenceP8ntKid: no problem, wish you better luck06:20
bytefoo68606:20
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nayifi have breezy rc and  i put over it my ubuntu 5.04 "backup image" than when i do restart , i found on grub ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger ,who can i fix this06:20
a_monkeycafuego_: thankyou for at least doing me that simple favor06:20
P8ntKidpestilence: Thanks.06:20
crimsuncameron_: 68606:20
cameron_what is the difference between 686 and 686-smp? ans stuff?06:20
jgrieves_dabaR, I feel like I have seen cases where GDM loads up X sessions for users, but I can't seem to get it to work, I want user BOB to start X with ___ extension, and user SUE to start X with Extensions ___06:20
foxgamerI'm guessing from the recent conversation that the new breezy is available. I'm one of those who already has it, so do I need to do just an update?06:20
cameron_i could get linux-686 or linux-image-68606:20
cameron_whats the differenc?06:20
jgrieves_foxgame, if ur on breezy just keep up with your upgrades06:21
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jgrieves_welcome to the wonderful world of Ubuntu :)06:21
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crimsuncameron_: get linux-68606:21
gleesondits saying I don't have an exceptable c compiler how do I fix that?06:21
cameron_or i could get linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp06:21
dabaRjgrieves_: I dont know anything called an X extension, maybe too technical for mee.06:21
foxgamerhehe. Thanks jgrieves_06:21
crimsungleesond: install build-essential06:21
cycomcrimsun: so is there a new 'testing release' coming out?06:21
Hhhhhquestion: is today's breezy distribution a release?06:21
crimsuncameron_: see what I said.06:21
cameron_crimsun:im going to try that06:21
aztektumdo or do not06:21
jgrieves_dabaR ok just adding options to X then06:21
zexr0hi, Where are stored the configuration files for synaptics ? (touchpad)06:21
cameron_crimsun:but one failed earlier06:21
Hhhhha stable release?06:21
raingrovecrimsun : thus, while your package status may not need to be updated, you don't actually have Ubuntu 5.10 until right now. so although everything remains the same, i already have 5.10?06:21
crimsuncycom: not for a little bit (days)06:21
jgrieves_dabaR GDM starts X session up06:22
crimsunraingrove: yes.06:22
dabaRjgrieves_: being specific helps also. What options are you talking about exactly?06:22
cycomcrimsun: any word on a code name yet? or is that all hush hush?06:22
crimsun"Dapper"06:22
cameron_crimsun:thanks06:22
dabaRno, jgrieves_ I do not think it does. gdm logs users in.06:22
raingrovehaha06:22
raingrovethat's great06:22
cycomcrimsun: ohhhh. I've heard that, but missed it. Thanks.06:22
cycomcrimsun: what's your opinion of my idea for a 'release countdown timer'?06:22
foxgamerhehe. No upgrades for breezy needed :D06:22
zexr0do you know where configuration files are stored in linux ? (switching from windows to ubuntu)06:22
nayifcan any one here copy and paste his menu.lst from hory ?06:23
cycomzexr0: /etc usually06:23
tritiumzexr0, /etc06:23
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jgrieves_dabaR GDM loads up an X session06:23
dabaRraingrove: did you try dist-upgrade, and upgrade? that would upgrade, update updates the list.06:23
jgrieves_or else you wouldn't havea gui :)06:23
cycomzexr0: but be VERY careful in your changes.06:23
jgrieves_plus there is an Xorg process running06:23
crimsuncycom: not needed06:23
budluvawhere can i find my boot log? for some reason one of my harddrives didnt mount properly after hoary>breezy upgrade06:23
dabaRand what is gdm shown in? jgrieves_ text interface?06:23
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glickr the mirrors synced yet?06:23
cycomcrimsun: neither are code names, but they do kinda add the the experience.06:23
jgrieves_dabaR I'm sorry?06:23
vladuz976ok this has probably been asked before i logged on, but is breezy out?06:23
d3viceglick, join the torrent06:23
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jgrieves_dabaR GDM loads up X and then loads up its gui, and its connection for users06:24
cycomvladuz976: YES! WOOHOO!06:24
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dabaRjgrieves_: the x session is loaded, and shows you the gdm, which allows your users to log in.06:24
Hhhhhis breezy final release out yet06:24
raingrovedeya06:24
Lickerso what antivirus software is there for Linux?06:24
raingrovedabaR,  yes06:24
vladuz976cycom: i don't see anything ont he website06:24
naliothd3vice: link?06:24
gleesondI ran apt-get update.... and it failed06:24
jgrieves_dabaR exactly but it then chosses the session for the user06:24
budluvaLicker, apt-cache search clamav06:24
tgaLicker, you only need Linux AV software if you're filtering mail or something06:24
diemanglick: ive gotten mirror.cs.umn.edu synced for just ubuntu so far, install/live isos.  some of the release.ubuntu.com mirrors are syncing still.06:24
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jgrieves_dabaR it does not load up X again06:24
cafuego_Licker: clamav, but unless you serve windows clients, you don't need it.06:24
d3vicejoin the torrent: torrent.ubuntu.com:696906:24
naliothLicker: linux doesnt need an AV, but if you feel for your windows friends, use clamav06:24
jgrieves_dabaR i.e. X -dpi 806:24
_maydayj_budluva - check /var/log/dmesg06:24
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zexr0cycom, I'm trying to change the sensibility of the click of my touchpad06:24
jgrieves_if a user wants 9 bit06:24
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zexr0but there's no configuration files for synaptics06:24
raingroveraingrove@raingrove:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade06:24
raingroveReading package lists... Done06:24
raingroveBuilding dependency tree... Done06:24
raingrove0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:24
jgrieves_8 bit color06:24
dabaRjgrieves_: do you want your users, for example, one to log into gnome, and one to log into openbox, or do you want all to log into gnome, and then you want to set up for one usr to start a particular program after logging in?06:24
Hhhhhis breezy final release out yet?06:25
tgaraingrove, BUZZ! wrong answer, you're out06:25
tgaHhhhh, RTFT06:25
jgrieves_dabaR no, its not about the ssession, I care about re-loading X with specific options06:25
dabaRHhhhh: /topic06:25
_maydayj_Hhhhh - syncing read channel topic...06:25
joelitoHhhhh: yeah!!!06:25
d3viceHhhhh,  join the torrent: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696906:25
pestilenced3vice: what's the torrent for breezy?06:25
d3vicepestilence, i guess so06:25
dabaRjgrieves_: like I said, it may be just over my head.06:25
nayifwhen the ubuntu guide will be update to breezy?06:25
shekharhello can someone help me with configuring openafs on breezy?06:25
joelitoAlready started getting the live cd torrent06:25
naliothnayif: ubuntuguide should not be used06:26
pestilenced3vice: not quite the answer i was looking for.  *what* is the torrent for breezy?06:26
jgrieves_dabaR, im not explainign it well06:26
aztektumoh good06:26
jgrieves_if I was in a terminal06:26
aztektumnow i'm gonna be up all night06:26
jgrieves_and logged in06:26
dabaRjgrieves_: I also think so;06:26
d3vicepestilence, ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso06:26
jgrieves_I start X with xinit or starx or something06:26
foxgamerI've seen this mentioned a lot, what is torrent?06:26
naliothcrimsun: are there 4 cds to install now?06:26
Hhhhhd3vice, is final breezy out for direct dl? I don't do torrent06:26
pestilenced3vice: got a link?06:26
jrrubuntu64, like debian64, is *not* multiarch, correct?  (chroot and debootstrap necessary for 32bit)06:26
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jgrieves_dabaR but I can startx -option06:26
nayifnalioth, why?06:26
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d3vicepestilence, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696906:26
Abysmalwhy are the sizes diffenert @ torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 ???06:26
pestilenced3vice: i don't quite know how to find it from the info you have given06:26
jgrieves_dabaR per user06:26
jgrieves_dabaR GDM howerver starts X06:26
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naliothubotu: tell nayif about ubuntuguide06:26
pestilenced3vice: ok. nevermind :)06:26
jgrieves_dabaR ad then does not startx again06:26
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jgrieves_as far as i can tell06:27
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jgrieves_it keeps the same Xsession06:27
cafuego_jrr: Well, it does run OO.org2 32bit via ia32 compat libs and no chroot.06:27
foxgamer!ubotu: tell foxgamer about torrent06:27
nayifnalioth, :) thank you and good work06:27
zexr0it seems that there is no configuration for synaptics, because my touchpad is way to sensitive to "press interpreted by a pression on it"06:27
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dabaRjgrieves_: whatever, if you can explain exactly what you want, I may be able to answer. for now, I either do not know about what you are saying, or you have not said what you really want, jsut your idea of how it might be solved.06:28
DjKriticalchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <-- omg this is giving me a headache and a half!06:28
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atripathiGoodmorning everyone06:28
pestilenceanywone know why there are 3 files named breezy-dvd-i386.iso on the tracker?06:28
tritiumDjKritical, did you install build-essential?06:28
Hhhhhhmm, is it possible to get final breezy release iso without using torrent?06:29
orkoI need 16GB RAM support (breezy) - possible without compiling a kernel?06:29
naliothtritium: thats not the issue. i get that error, also06:29
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cycomluckyaba: did it work and stuff?06:29
DjKriticaltritium, nah I didn't.. I just installed gcc... whoops?06:29
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calcorko: easy to do with an amd64 based system06:29
tritiumnalioth, entonces, no tengo ningun idea06:29
nayifi need some line from menu.lst on ubuntu 5.04 ,start from title ubuntu>>> to the end ot this please .06:29
naliothHhhhh: yes, wait for the iso to sync with www.ubuntulinux.org/download  or visit shipit.ubuntu.com06:29
jgrieves_dabaR, last try :) my user BOB does a terminal login, uses "X -dpi 8" user SUE does a termianl log in then uses "X -dpi 24" GDM does not allow for this06:30
calcorko: 16GB on 32bit is hacky, but probably works fine with a nice slowdown (since 32bit can't support 16GB sanely)06:30
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jgrieves_dabaR because it doesn't seem to read the .xsession file  Ihave06:30
tritiumDjKritical, not sure if that's the issue, but we'll find out, I guess06:30
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orkocalc ; its an ibm x366. I can see the 4 CPU's in it,but only 4 of the 16gb ram. I dont mind building a new kernel, but thought the smp one would support >4gb ram06:30
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jgrieves_dabaR GDM loads up X a user then just "logs" in albiet with a desktop06:30
DjKriticaltritium, we'll find out in 60 seconds06:30
tritiumok06:31
jgrieves_dabaR but I cannot figure out how to make it use specific options for X dpeending on the user06:31
calcorko: you have to turn on pae support in the kernel, slows it down a bit06:31
shekharhello can someone help me with ssh-kerberos config?06:31
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DjKriticaltritium, thanks!06:31
tritiumworks06:31
tritium?06:31
dabaRI dont think it does load X, but thats just my uninformed opinion. as to the options, I do not know, I started using Linux about a year ago, with ubuntu, that has gdm by default, so I really almost never startx.06:31
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Pablo_Chmm06:32
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DjKriticaltritium, almost... needs a couple more packages.. it's weird.. this one says "you need bison package'... why couldn't the last error message say that =(06:32
Pablo_Cum... total n00b question here... but how do I add a .deb package that I have on a local disk? what the command?06:33
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atripathiadd ?06:33
lightstarPablo:dpkg -i <package name>06:33
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shekharcrimsun:  could you possibly point me to someone who can help me with openafs + krb5 config? i have been calling out for help every 10 min or so but can't find any punters06:33
Pablo_Chey thanks lightstar06:33
jgrieves_dabaR what gui interface do you think GDM is using?06:33
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lightstarPablo : no prob;)06:33
racoon97_Imelanie06:33
tritiumDjKritical, strange06:34
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agentok ok.... so are the torrents good or are they still "being synced"?06:34
jgrieves_Pablo dpkg -i package06:34
jgrieves_oh sorry lightstar06:35
dabaRjgrieves_: I think x is started, and then gdm is loaded, and you go from tehre. But, that is irrelevant, especially if you know for a fact it is optherwise. Did you look in the /etc/gdm dir?06:35
d3viceagent, they are good06:35
lightstarjgrieves : no worries..hehe06:35
calcthey look like they are there now, just have to get the ubuntu-5.10-{install,live}-* ones06:35
aztektumwhere's there torrent?06:35
calcaztektum: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/06:35
jgrieves_dabaR yes exactly x is started06:35
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aztektumbonus06:35
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aztektumwait, why is there 5 different ones06:35
aztektumfor the install06:35
tritiumcalc, what's with the various file sizes for the same image?06:35
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jgrieves_dabaR but I want X to re-start for each user! with specific options like -dpi 8 for a user or -dip 24 for anoather user06:36
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jgrieves_yes i've tried shutting down X in the presession directory06:36
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calcinstall i386 617M, live i386 627M06:36
jgrieves_and then restarting X with my options06:37
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go1dfishanyone know why mythgame is .17 while all the other mythtv packages are .1806:37
go1dfishand additionally why version .17 of mythgame wont install with a dependency failure06:37
calctritium: they look right according to filesize from what i see elsewhere06:37
crimsungo1dfish: because .17 is there.06:37
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jgrieves_dabaR but it does not seem to work, instead the terminal comes up and then the gdm recycles06:37
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qt2reboot.06:37
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go1dfishcrimsun: not following you06:37
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honeso are the images on the site, the right ones?06:38
honeor is it still being synced?06:38
go1dfishbecause you can optionally install .17?06:38
sector10how do i add something to pastebin??06:38
jgrieves_hone, yep, updated just a bit ago06:38
aztektumI haven't a dvd-r/w yet06:38
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crimsungo1dfish: because no one stepped up to fix it06:38
tritiumcalc, I see others besides the two you listed, and they have different sizes.06:38
honejgrieves_: so the Oct 12, time stamp is right?06:38
go1dfishok06:38
jgrieves_yeah im  confused about the torrents :) looks like someone crewed up06:38
cycomMy goal for this year is to get into a mac store, and quietly sneak an ubuntu livecd into every CD-Rom/DVD-Rom drive in the display macs and then reboot them all06:38
dabaRjgrieves_: that does not sound like something that can be done, to me, anyhow. Ask people like crimsun, bob2, tritium, or nalioth to find out from someone that may know. I dont know what this command is gonna do for you: cat /etc/gdm/gdm.conf | grep xsession you can try adding the $HOME/ dir to that list, or someting.06:38
cycomUBUNTU > OSX!06:38
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foxgamerhow do you use bittorrent?06:39
calcthe correct names are ubuntu-5.10-{install,live}-*06:39
dabaRjgrieves_: altho they would have told you by now if they had read ity.06:39
go1dfishwhere/who should I mention this to to get it looked at06:39
jgrieves_hone, I think so it wasn't there a minute ago06:39
synackuatorcycom: the mac fanbois would crucify you!06:39
crimsunthe topic says it all, really.06:39
cycomI own one macintosh, I got it for free, and it's from like 199106:39
dabaRjgrieves_: and knew what to do.06:39
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jgrieves_dabaR thanks06:39
cycomsynackuator: they'd have to catch me first.06:39
Hobbsee!tell foxgamer about bittorrent06:39
naliothdarkheart: you just confused the stuffin out of me06:39
calcof which there are only 6 on the torrent site06:39
zcat[1] foxgamer: apt-get install gnome-torrent then you can just click the links..06:39
tritiumthanks, calc06:39
synackuatorcycom: roflcopters06:39
jgrieves_dabaR perhaps they can't see between all of the hpe abou the release )06:39
foxgamerThanks Hobbsee :)06:39
cycomsynackuator: they'd be too distracted by the 'substrate' screensaver I'd set.06:39
naliothjgrieves_: wait until a torrent appears on www.ubuntulinux.org/download06:39
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Hobbseeno problems foxgamer06:39
aztektumso any 6 of those names is a valid link? heh weird06:39
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zcat[1] ahh, happy now..06:39
aztektumnevermind06:40
sector10nalioth: how do i add something to pastebin?06:40
synackuatorcycom: they would be like wtf that kid fux0red our macs06:40
honeare the torrents messed up?06:40
calcaztektum: erm live install for i386 amd64 powerpc06:40
Hobbseei'm so glad i've already got breezy lol...saves downloading it now06:40
calcaztektum: so yea all six are valid ;)06:40
cycomsynackuator: and then they'd be like 'whooooa...an OS that is free, that has a lot of free stuff, that like...works and doesn't die!'06:40
jgrieves_hone *shrugs* listen to these guys, I refreshed and saw that they wre there06:40
DShepherdso it doesnt matter which of the duplicartes i download?06:40
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zcat[1] http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%F7_%5DX%7E%10k%FD%EE%E9%B8%C0fd%C2%7E%E0%B5nF06:40
calcDShepherd: there are no duplicates of the release06:40
jgrieves_hone and assumed it was updated06:40
cycomsynackuator: and then they'd all fall over dead. just because.06:41
calcDShepherd: reread what was said06:41
naliothubotu: tell sector10 about pastebin06:41
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synackuatorcycom: you could aqua up gnome and they wouldn't even notice the difference06:41
honejgrieves_: yeah I thought since the iso was up it was good06:41
cycomsynackuator: GOOD IDEA!06:41
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jgrieves_nalioth did you happen to catch any of my GDM questions?06:41
cycomsynackuator: I'd come back a week later and be like 'you know that's ubuntu linux, right?'06:41
sector10nalioth: thanks06:41
calcor just wait until you can get the torrent file itself off a mirror ;)06:41
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naliothjgrieves_: i am dizzy from the speed this channel is moving06:42
naliothjgrieves_: join #kubuntu-offtopic where it's a little slower06:42
zcat[1] status:   connecting to peers (0.0%)06:42
zcat[1] Hmm..06:42
jgrieves_nalioth im sorry, will head over there if thats ok06:42
synackuatorcycom: just place a timer that says pwnt in like a week06:42
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Abysmalanyone d/ling yet??06:42
crimsunnalioth: just wait til all the new install and dist-upgrade folks pop in ;-)06:42
cycomit'd be like taking somones jaguar, replacing everything inside with ferrari parts, but leaving the jag frame, and then suddenly popping th hood and showing them the shiny ferrari logo06:42
cycomonly free.06:42
sockpuppe1say I have a bunch of pictures that I want to weave into a slideshow06:42
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sockpuppe1and then burn to dvd and have it play on any computer06:43
calcthe i386 install should be pretty fast there are lots of people downloading it06:43
sockpuppe1how do Ii go about that?06:43
naliothcrimsun: i have contingency plans in place (goin fishin)06:43
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sockpuppe1I dist upgraded06:43
crimsunnalioth: mine are sleeping.06:43
sockpuppe1lol06:43
cycomhey, what's the typical life of a DVD burner? like how many discs can it burn before it goes 'BLaahhhhhhhhhh......'06:43
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ubuntukingright getting about 120 k06:43
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honelife of a dvd burner?06:44
ompdownload links on http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ are broken :x06:44
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crimsunomp: topic.06:44
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zcat[1] still waiting for torrent to start :(06:44
ubuntukingyou can download through the torrent06:44
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aztektumthe links at your link haven't quite started working at allyet06:44
zcat[1] Woooh, it's off!!06:44
nayifwho use smartlink with breezy ?06:44
ducky_I added vga=792 to my grub config and now I have a better resolutions but I still don't have color and the tux icon on the top of the screen like I see in other distros.06:44
lampshadeHi everybody06:44
sockpuppe1did the official version come out yet?06:44
ubuntukingyeah06:44
sockpuppe1hey lampshade06:44
ubuntukingit is out06:44
jwd_hey I kind of have a generic question06:44
concept10anyone prefer the gnome torrent over azureus?06:44
cpalmatorrent is going slow atm :(06:44
nayifi can not get it work like on hory?06:44
zcat[1] 1k/s down..06:45
ducky_I've beens searching the forum and stuff and I'm not finding how to do this06:45
crimsunducky_: we don't use that.06:45
jwd_trying to compile windowmaker on ubuntu06:45
ubuntukingu can download it from ubuntu website06:45
aztektummy torrent is fast as crazy06:45
jwd_found a solution for my error06:45
jwd_its a patch06:45
aztektum275-300kB/s06:45
d3vicemy torrent is at 60kb/s06:45
sockpuppe1so can anyone answer my dvd qustion06:45
jwd_but don't know what to do with it06:45
lampshadeconcept10:  I prefer azureues because of the features it has that I like.  The tracking, the setting share limits so I don't keep sharing forever, etc06:45
fr33mindI have an annoying problems with my keyboard layout.  I try to set to fr_CA but I can't change it.  Something corrupt.  It's stay in en_US.  If I do "reset to default" in keyboard layout, I have 4..5...8 dialog box with the same error... but sometimes I retreive the right layour (fr_CA) by luck!!  Or by doing apt-get install xmodmap ou xkbd___lib... etc... but at reboot, same prob.  And I can't click the checkbox "default".  Any idea?  A package I should06:45
fr33mind install?  gconf to modify maybe?06:45
ubuntukingi am getting 120 k06:45
zcat[1] 3K/s06:45
calcconcept10: azureus is much more detailed, but gnome torrent probably uses less ram06:45
crimsunjwd_: apply it using patch06:45
ice_!mp306:45
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:45
jaramillowhich one of all those breezy-install-i386.iso's is the 1st one ? (bootable one)06:45
cycomcrimsun: what if I want a little tux at boot though?06:45
ubuntukingthe one that ends in .ISO06:45
zcat[1] breezy == WRONG .  ubuntu-5.10 == RIGHT06:46
cycomcrimsun: is it possible to put it back?06:46
fr33mindOh also, I put an applet to know wich keyboard I have...06:46
calcjaramillo: none06:46
concept10lampshade, calc I like azureus but i havent installed it on breezy yet06:46
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jwd_just in the WindowMaker directory?06:46
calcjaramillo: the ubuntu-5.10-install-* is what you want06:46
zcat[1] apparently..06:46
crimsuncycom: everything's possible. Whether it's feasible is another story.06:46
nayif*  is i'm only who use modem on the world?06:46
cycomcrimsun: meaning?06:46
jaramillooh06:46
sockpuppe1anyone have an answer?06:46
jaramilloi get it, thx ;D06:46
calcnayif: yes06:47
fr33mindI can't display layout view... (empty dialog) it's showing: en_US, at groups menu item, I have empty selection..06:47
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nayifcalc, oh thank you :)06:47
crimsuncycom: meaning you can, but it'll be a bit of work.06:47
stperenayif, I'm on 56K here06:47
calci haven't used a modem in nearly 8 years06:47
cycomcrimsun: it'd be very important to somone I know, because she happens to love penguins.  Her laptop is literally covered in pictures of penguins, but she runs windows.  If i can get it to have a little tux when it boots, she will probobly explode with joy.06:47
aztektumi did recently06:47
cycomcrimsun: and also date me.06:47
aztektumit sucked06:47
nayifstpere, what modem you use than?06:48
Hobbseesockpuppe1: if they did, they probably would have replied by now06:48
crimsuncycom: that's cheap. I'd look at modifying the usplash image. It's cooler anyhow.06:48
sockpuppe1LoL06:48
calcswitched to isdn -> sdsl -> adsl -> cable06:48
concept10Ive been on breezy for a couple of weeks with an avg. of 50-150 updates a day, today on release date, 10 updates only?!06:48
stperenayif, a 3com model06:48
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sockpuppe1hobbsee good sense of humour!06:48
lampshadecycom:  I know archlinx boots with a framebuffer that shows a little penguin while stuff loads... perhaps they have something you could use?  I think knoppix does too... if that helps...06:48
nayifstpere, businessoffice?06:48
glickdoes anyone use koffice.org06:48
glick?06:48
ubuntukingconcept10, you probably got all of them06:48
cycomcrimsun: The most satisfying moment of my life was when I got a free computer, and instead of seeing one tux, I saw two, because it was a dual processor box.06:48
glickbesides the developers of koffice.org?06:48
zcat[1] I installed the kubunto preview three weeks ago on a non-net PPC .. haven't installed any updates yet :)\06:49
cycomlampshade: ooh....06:49
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calcglick: isn't it just called koffice?06:49
stperenayif, dunno, it came OEM with my computer06:49
budluvaso its official, breezy's out? http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ ???06:49
nayifcalc, i will use it like you but after 8 years06:49
glickcalc, yeah06:49
calcglick: openoffice.org is called that due to not checking if their name was already used06:49
stperenayif, model 561006:49
crimsunbudluva: topic.06:49
Hobbseesockpuppe1: hehehe...you'd need some sort of program to do it, but i really couldnt help you out in what it would be06:49
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MrGnashWhat does it mean that 5.10 release is being synced?06:49
aztektumi've had cable or dsl for nearly a solid 6 years. had to use a modem the other day. that was like wading into a cold pond hearing it squeal as it dialed out06:49
Paradoxxi'm sure this question has been asked 50 times in the last hr....06:49
aztektumbut i digress06:49
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crimsunMrGnash: that means the mirrors are getting it06:49
Paradoxxbut is breezy up now?06:49
jwd_crimsun: should it take a long time?06:49
budluvacrimsun, yeah but final iso is downloadable06:49
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sockpuppe1Ive been looking for some time now06:50
MrGnashAhh ok, thanks crimsun.06:50
calcbudluva: i'm pretty sure crimsun knows that ;)06:50
zcat[1] Paradoxx: in torrent at least .. I think the topic has it?06:50
cycombudluva: from some of them, but probobly not all of them.06:50
boneehow do i extract all files that is .bz2 in a folder06:50
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sockpuppe1crimsun is the man06:50
calccrimsun: did you know that? :)06:50
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Paradoxxso if i do an upgrade everything should b ok06:50
Paradoxx:D06:50
stperenayif, why? having problems?06:50
zcat[1] umm can someone put that torrent page into the topic then?06:50
crimsuncalc: no-win situation ;-)06:50
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sockpuppe1Crimsun as a matter of  fact I owe you a beer06:50
bur[n] errelease being synced... that mean an .iso is available for download or getting there still? ;)06:50
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calcbur[n] er: you can get it via torrent already06:51
F1TrIhai06:51
crimsunbur[n] er: it's available on certain sites. Others are still syncing.06:51
Lickerwhat kinda linux antivirus do they got out>?06:51
MrGnashTorrent is finally picking up speed - 47 kB/s now :)06:51
carthikbur[n] er, some mirrors it is, on some it is not yet ready - better wait till all mirrors are synced06:51
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zcat[1] http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <- the ones you want are "ubuntu-5.10-* down near the bottom, NOT the breezy- torrents..06:51
Hobbseebur[n] er: patience...06:51
bur[n] erhrm... torrent works :)06:51
foxgamerwhat's a bittorrent meta file? It's asking me for one06:52
nayifstpere, on breezy my winmodem not work like on hory http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installsmartlinkdriver ,because this form the kernel 2.6.10 not 2.6.1206:52
lampshadeLicker:  there are some, but it isn't like a common thing imho.  Not many people install them that I know06:52
bur[n] erthanks zcat[1] 06:52
lampshadebecause there just aren't a lot of viruses06:52
zcat[1] 30K now.. picking up some momentum at least!06:52
zcat[1] *last06:52
nayifstpere, i think may it need update or somethink i dont know06:52
fr33mindnobody knows how the f*cking keyboard selector works in gnome?06:52
staniaI'm downloading breezy in korea, and I think i'm a first download in korea... so my download speed is slower than upload spead..06:52
aztektumsweet my torrent just jacked up to 500kB/s06:52
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s3[mn] rainOk, I found the solution to my tar problem, it appears that "tar -cvjf test.bz2 --exclude=downloads forum" works but "tar -cvjf test.bz2 forum --exclude=downloads" does not, It appears that the exclude needs to come before you specify the files to archive...06:52
fr33mindI ask for a week!!06:52
syndWhere's the HDD mounted at by default?06:53
=== bur[n] er will seed his torrent for weeks after it's done :)
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SeverianShould I be concerned that tonights updates are failing with illegal instruction errors?06:53
cycomoh! I should set up a torrent! I don't need the discs, but share the wealth, yeah?!06:53
bur[n] erzcat[1] : yep06:53
asparaguizcat: yes.06:53
calcwow some of the mirrors are fast06:53
mustard5fr33mind, apparently not06:53
calci'm downloading at 500KB+ from one06:53
diemancalc: which one?06:53
jmworxHi, I just finished installing a breezy pre-release and then updated to the latest packages. Is my system now exactly as it would have been if I instaled the final Breezy release?06:53
calcdieman: its a secret ;)06:53
diemanheh06:53
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diemancalc: im jsut wondering06:53
crimsunjmworx: yes.06:53
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diemanmirror.cs.umn.edu should be fast, its only pushing 21mbps or so06:53
nayifdieman, usa or german06:54
bur[n] eruse torrents... help out ;)06:54
glicklooks like all the mirrors are synced!06:54
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jmworxcrimsun: thanks06:54
diemannayif: im in the usa06:54
diemannick is more based off my last name06:54
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diemanthan anything german06:54
syndWhere's the HDD mounted at by default?06:54
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aztektumsynd, inside your case06:54
el_alexlunait's Breezy ready?06:54
aztektum*rim shot*06:54
nayifdieman, this "usa or german" answer not Q06:54
glickel_alexluna, yup06:54
diemannayif: oh ;)06:54
=== zcat[1] is torrenting with 70mbps both ways into the NZ backbone.. that ought to help any kiwi's that want it :)
syndaztektum: Bleh.06:55
zcat[1] 50k's down now..06:55
=== bur[n] er is getting rougly 25k via torrent
bur[n] eruploading 50 though :)06:55
zcat[1] and 90k's up, hell!!06:55
calcmy download slowed to ~ 435KB/s06:55
bur[n] erlol06:55
barnettlucky bitch06:55
barnettmine's 22906:55
barnett:-P06:55
nayiftime to ZZz see you guys soon :)06:56
cpalmaim getting 7kb but thats the top of my connection :D06:56
calcof course i don't know if firefox is accurate or not06:56
aztektumMine is bouncing between 500 and 525 down, i have it capped to 30 up06:56
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vladuz976anybody know a guide to the expert mode installation?06:56
tga!offtopic06:56
ubotu#ubuntu should be kept to support for the Ubuntu OS. For random discussion, join #ubuntu-offtopic06:56
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el_alexlunawhere i can download?06:56
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tgavladuz976, you mean the 'server' install or there's a real expert mode06:56
jgrieves_holy mackerl that mirror is FAST06:57
jgrieves_my torrent is slow as molassis06:57
freddyis the new ubuntu already released? i read the topic..but dont know if that is breezy...06:57
MrGnashel_alexluna: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/06:57
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Hobbseefreddy: it's breezy06:57
freddyoh my god!06:57
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freddynew ubuntu!06:57
freddyawesome06:57
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freddythanks Hobbsee06:57
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syndWhere's the HDD mounted at by default?06:58
vladuz976tga: no you can type "expert" at the prompt after booting the cd. just like the sarge installer. but when i get to apt configuration it fails. it says not an ubuntu cd in my drive, but it is06:58
Hobbseeyou'll see lots of people talking about how fast their torrent is going to download it :P06:58
calcsynd: /06:58
freddyis there something really big about this new release?06:58
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tgavladuz976, sorry, no idea06:58
cycomTorrent Started!  Share the wealth!06:58
el_alexlunaMrGnash, ok ok06:58
syndcalc: ~/ ?06:58
aztektumi just had a burst to 608kB/s ...06:58
jrrfreddy: gnome 2.12 for starters =] 06:58
DaSkreechfreddy: Yeah It brings your grandmother's cookies back in huge piles06:58
el_alexlunaMrGnash, thanks06:58
MrGnashFor me it's the installer - I don't have to partition my drive manually LOL06:58
calcsynd: your hd is the root06:58
tgaaztektum, we don't care, really06:58
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MrGnashYou're welcome06:58
zenroxplease donate bandwith to the torrent dont slam the servers06:58
calcsynd: if you have more than one partition you can put it elsewhere06:58
freddyDaSkreech, thanks, my grandmother died 2 days ago :(06:58
jgrieves_hey somebody got on my mirror i'md own to 344 kb06:58
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DShepherdubuntu = the brown sugar  :D06:58
calcsynd: but the main one has to be at /06:58
DShepherd:)06:59
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DaSkreechhi nalioth06:59
aztektumyou must care one way or the other or you wouldn't have bothered saying anything at all.06:59
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syndcalc: Thank ya.06:59
zcat[1] 300K up.. I'm doing my part to spread the goodness!!06:59
calconce i get this downloaded i'll start it up on the torrent for amd64 install06:59
jrattner1has breezy officially been released  yet?06:59
aztektumyes j06:59
aztektumit has06:59
zenrox864k /ul speed here06:59
jrattner1where? bit torrent06:59
syndnalioth: This place has gotten bad.06:59
calccurrently there are only 5 seeds06:59
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zcat[1] http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <- the ones you want are "ubuntu-5.10-* down near the bottom, NOT the breezy- torrents..06:59
nayifUbuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" Preview Release "http://www.ubuntu.com/download/" update this line :)07:00
zenroxcalc,  more are being added ever 5 mins07:00
freddyjrr, nice07:00
naliothsynd: it's a madhouse atm07:00
cycomawright.  How the hell is it that gaim, released in Ubuntu, thinks that the word 'Ubuntu' is a spelling mistake?07:00
jgrieves_im doig my best with bit torrent :)07:00
jrattner1why is breezy DVD 386 0.0 Gib07:00
naliothzcat[1] : releases.ubuntu.com/5.1007:00
tgajrattner1, high compression07:00
naliothzcat[1] : less confusing07:00
DaSkreechcycom: Right click -> add -> not a problem07:00
naliothjrattner1: less calories07:00
crimsuncycom: you don't have the necessary dictionary installed.07:01
funkyHat:D07:01
calcjrattner1: there isn't an official dvd out yet will be available soon07:01
zcat[1] cool!!07:01
jrattner1nalioth, is the i386 DVD still active?07:01
jrattner1just the cd version is avaiable07:01
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zcat[1] no kubuntu-5.10 yet? :-(07:01
fatejudgerBREEZY BADGER KICKS ASS!?!?!?!?!?07:01
crimsunzcat[1] : syncing.07:01
naliothjrattner1: they are syncing as we speak07:01
freddyhttp://davyd.ucc.asn.au/images/af/af-shot2.png  <----- what the fuck?07:01
tgafatejudger, no07:01
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crimsunI swear I did put it in the topic for a reason... :-)07:01
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naliothfreddy: please watch your tongue07:01
calczcat[1] : edubuntu is being mirrored and then kubuntu (aiui)07:02
jrattner1nalioth, i have to go to bed i got midterms soon should i wait the 20 mins or do you think it wont be sinked yet07:02
funkyHatcrimsun, who the hell reads topics?07:02
zenroxcrimsun,  look at the topic in #ubuntuforums07:02
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zcat[1] I should look at edubuntu as well..07:02
jrattner1yes07:02
fatejudgerfreddy: lol, nice pic07:02
naliothjrattner1: i'm sure that any time tomorrow the torrent will fly down07:02
jrattner1YES i've been waiting for this YES for wirless networks :  )07:02
calcfreddy: its a new 2.12 feature07:02
jgrieves_freddy that's funny07:02
jrattner1i cant wait :  )07:02
glickhalf a meg a sec, not bad07:02
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fatejudgerI need Kubuntu!07:02
jgrieves_soon Gnome will implement Blue screens to help better our lives :)07:03
fatejudgerwhen are is it going to be done syncing?07:03
Hobbseefatejudger: then go get it :P07:03
freddycalc, you serious?07:03
tapox5.10 being synced? What does that mean?07:03
calchmm mine keeps slowing down, i should have used torrent ;)07:03
fatejudgerit isn't out yet07:03
funkyHatzenrox, hahaha07:03
Hobbseetapox: going to the mirrors07:03
glickits synced07:03
tgatapox, it means it's unsynced at the moment07:03
calcfreddy: no, it was on david's blog a long time ago as a joke07:03
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tapoxhobbsee: Okay, thanks07:03
carthiktapox, means that mirrors worldwide are copying the cd/dvd images to their servers...07:03
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jgrieves_DANG it if this room wasn't so busy i would have gotten a laugh!07:03
freddycalc, ah LOL07:03
fr33mindWhat are you using for RAD dev ?07:03
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freddynice one07:03
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jrattner1if i want to download the official DVD release of 5.10 with the live cd which torrent should i choose07:03
Riddellfatejudger: still syncing07:03
calcjrattner1: not available yet07:04
fatejudgerRiddell: how would you know?07:04
jrattner1calc, but is there a torrent address so i can just get it to connect07:04
calcfatejudger: because he is kubuntu ;)07:04
fatejudgerholy crap07:04
fatejudgerRiddell: what's the Estimated Time Remaining?07:04
Hobbseefatejudger: hehe07:04
naliothjrattner1: releases.ubuntu.com/5.1007:04
calcjrattner1: not yet afaict07:04
tapoxshould I burn an ISO or upgrade through apt-get?07:04
aztektumare they dropping the "name" scheme for releases now?07:04
jsgotangcoin a few hours =)07:05
Riddellfatejudger: no idea, depends on the mood of the mirrors and the bandwidth available.  hour maybe07:05
cycomjgrieves_: noone who has had to deal with them thought is was funny :)07:05
s3[mn] rainyou guys got ants in your pants or something? just wait for the official announcement...07:05
Hobbseetapox: you can do either07:05
freddyoh my god...the new 2.12 is awesome...im watching the screenshots07:05
jgrieves_cycom haha07:05
fatejudgerRiddell: One hour? I can't wait that long.07:05
tapoxhobbsee: is one way better then the other?07:05
cafuego_aztektum: No, "Breezy Badger". Next is "Dapper Drake".07:05
calcaztektum: no just the final release doesn't use the name07:05
cycomfreddy: 2.12 of what?07:05
ajmitch_fatejudger: sure you can07:05
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fatejudgeram I going to have to torrent it or can I do a direct download?07:05
jsgotangcofreddy, correction, that's 2.12.1 =)07:05
jgrieves_cycom I'm enjoying the RED in Vista07:05
Hobbseetapox: cd is safer than dist upgrade07:05
ajmitch_Riddell: good work on getting kubuntu in shape :)07:05
chavofatejudger, are you going to spontaneously combust?07:05
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aztektumoh07:05
Riddellajmitch_: hmm, still some shaping to do I fear07:05
fatejudgerchavo: I might07:06
Bicchiby looking at the torrents you can tell that most people are still using i386 architecture (i386=167) (amd64=14)07:06
cycomjgrieves_:  I think you should be able to customize it!07:06
freddycycom, gnome07:06
ajmitch_Riddell: -updates?07:06
chavoooh, do you have a webcam?07:06
Riddellajmitch_: yeah07:06
freddyjsgotangco, ah ok07:06
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jgrieves_cycom LOL splash image in the background07:06
tapoxHobbsee: Okay, thanks again.07:06
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chavothat would be cool :)07:06
aztektumheh07:06
cycomjgrieves_: it should just be a big middle finger07:06
nickrudtime machine?07:06
cafuego_Bicchi: Either that or the amd64 people were running breezy all along (coz Hoary amd64 sucked)07:06
calcBicchi: that will probably change over the next year since most new systems are already amd6407:06
MagicFab_MontreaBreezy is live :)07:06
ajmitch_Riddell: ah well, it's been looking good anyway07:06
jsgotangcoDaSkreech, archves aren't opened yet07:06
chavoDaSkreech, dapper is so ten minutes ago07:06
calcBicchi: eg all celeron 3x1 p4 5x1 6xx 8xx and athlon6407:06
aztektumMagicFab is lagged07:06
jgrieves_cycom up Bill Gate's butt07:06
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aztektumhehe07:06
ajmitch_Riddell: hopefully we don't have to get too much into universe updates07:06
DaSkreechDShepherd: Out See you soon07:07
Bicchicalc: i am running it now and it rocks07:07
foxgamerHow do I get a tracker for bittorrent?07:07
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DShepherdDaSkreech: LATER MAN07:07
calcfoxgamer: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/07:07
calcfoxgamer: there you go a tracker07:07
MagicFab_Mtlaztektum: well, had to clik on those torrents first... ;)07:07
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carthikjrattner1, you can get it at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ for now... wont change much from the release and you'll beat the rush07:07
foxgamerthanks calc :)07:07
Bicchicafuego_: no it didn't suck, i was using it07:07
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hater2winLucky Ubuntu users...07:08
hater2winWe Kubuntu'ers have to wait...07:08
alexrHi there. I apologize for asking the obvious, but are there any torrents to grab the ISOs?07:08
esc_apeso is http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ the final?07:08
fatejudgerhater2win: j00 are teh gay!07:08
crimsunhater2win: no you don't.07:08
hater2winfatejudger: STFU!?!?!?!?07:08
Dimi128Would anyone here be willing to listen to a rather lengthy story and then maybe point me in the right direction?07:08
crimsunhater2win: install, update, [dist-] upgrade07:08
calccrimsun: update the topic to point people at torrent site ;)07:08
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hater2wincrimsun: i know i know, but still heh07:09
esc_apealexr - see the link I posted07:09
jgrieves_darn it my mirror is getting busy07:09
honealexr: yes chec k the release page07:09
cycomjgrieves_: ok, that's a little over the top07:09
fatejudgerhater2win: I hate you, you never listen to me!07:09
fatejudger*cries*07:09
cycomjgrieves_: or...ahem....in the bottom.07:09
cpalmaalexr: yes, go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/07:09
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jgrieves_cycom your right sorry, considering i worked for them :D07:09
esc_apethe release is final correct?07:09
cycomjgrieves_: ooh! ouch! so did my uncle though.07:09
jgrieves_cycom LOL07:09
cycomjgrieves_: I also have an uncle at Sun.07:09
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funkyHat:O i don't believe yout07:09
funkyHat*you07:09
cycomthe uncle at MSFT moved on though.07:09
funkyHatbreezy has not been released07:09
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jgrieves_cycom now u just need an uncle at IBM07:09
fatejudgerhater2win: stupid bean bandit07:09
calcfunkyHat: looks like it has to me ;)07:10
funkyHati only have 16 packages to update!07:10
delaneyi have none07:10
jgrieves_cycom now I am at IBM :)07:10
funkyHatthis cannot be true!07:10
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cycomjgrieves_: doing what?07:10
funkyHatnot even a kernel update!07:10
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alexresc_ape: thanks!07:10
jgrieves_funkyHat you've been up to date all the time, :)07:10
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funkyHathehehehe :P i know07:10
jgrieves_FunkyHat for a kick go install a Conly 1 CD and see what happens with upgrading07:10
NoUsejgrieves_ is that true?07:10
jgrieves_cycom AIX07:10
cycomjgrieves_: Mac has finally gone to the dark side and gone intel.  Of course, microsoft went PPC in the 360 yeah?07:10
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cycomjgrieves_: AIX?07:10
crimsunjgrieves_: at rchland?07:10
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jgrieves_cycom yeah they went away from our chips, no great loss is our feeling07:11
jgrieves_cycom AIX = POWER operating system07:11
cycomjgrieves_: I can't wait to see mac flounder in the intel world07:11
shermanatoroooo those ubuntu mirrors are going to get a beating today07:11
jgrieves_cycom Austin, TX07:11
cycomjgrieves_: how much does it cost?07:11
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Bicchiwhats inside the ubuntu-5.04-dvd-amd64.iso ? its 2.65GB07:11
calcjgrieves_: austins nice :)07:11
crimsunjgrieves_: ah, I was at rchland doing auiml07:11
calcBicchi: hoary07:11
jgrieves_cycom they only sell AIX with the boxes07:11
aztektumBicchi, lots of 1's and 0's07:12
Dimi128Is there any way to un-do updates, when I aparently used an unstable source " deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted  "  And was presented with updates and applied them without really watching what was updated?07:12
jgrieves_cycom agreed,  and cool07:12
cycomjgrieves_: aww. what kind of boxes07:12
cycomjgrieves_: methinks we should take this to /query07:12
Bicchiaxtektum: smart07:12
calcjgrieves_: so does ibm have linux stuff in austin?07:12
calcstuff being dept/etc07:12
crimsunthere's a ltc at austin07:12
crimsunquite a few kernel hackers there07:13
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sambristahello07:13
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naliothcrimsun: ltc?07:13
sambristawhen are they going to release ubuntu 5.10??07:13
aztektumthey did07:13
honesambrista: it's released07:14
seth_kmirrors are all synced up :)07:14
sambristathe final version?07:14
sambristanot the preview?07:14
jgrieves_calc Linux on Power baby :)07:14
honesambrista: yes07:14
sambristaoh! thanks!07:14
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:crimsun] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | 5.10 released! http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
sambristabye!07:14
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aztektumhaha07:14
naliothcrimsun: not http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10    ?07:14
aztektumtorrents are nice07:15
jgrieves_calc yeah linux guys are in the building next to me07:15
calcjgrieves_: they hire linux guys often?07:15
zcat[1] nobody wants it.. by uploads have dropped way down again..07:15
NoUsejgrieves_ haha I'm at IBM in Chicago07:15
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:crimsun] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | 5.10 released! http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
jgrieves_calc im sure their looking for a few good men :)07:15
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crimsunthere.07:15
naliothcrimsun: less confusion that way, i believe07:15
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jgrieves_NoUSe Greetings!07:15
calci don't see anything open on their site :\07:15
crimsunnalioth: yeah, and it's canonical (no pun intended ;-)07:15
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nickrudah, that's better, 60K up07:16
calcwell related to linux in austin anyway07:16
jgrieves_calc really?  I guess im used to their intranet07:16
jgrieves_calc they have lnux forums now07:16
naliothcrimsun: heh. whats an ltc?07:16
calcjgrieves_: cool07:16
crimsunlinux technology center07:16
jgrieves_calc Linux on power...suupposedly07:16
jgrieves_NoUse what are you doing up their in Chicago07:16
crimsunjgrieves_: believe it, I saw it.07:16
calci live in houston right now07:16
calctrying to find a better job though07:16
NoUsejgrieves_ I'm in the Innovation Center, IT Specialist07:16
jgrieves_crimsun, saw what?07:17
jgrieves_the linux techonolgy center?07:17
aztektumlinux on power07:17
crimsunjgrieves_: oh, I thought you meant linux on power07:17
jgrieves_NoUse innovation!!!! woo hoo07:17
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jgrieves_crimsun oh yeah07:17
naliothcrimsun: is that a static thing or a meet type thing?07:17
crimsunnalioth: it's something like an overarching "department"07:18
Dimi128"503 Connect failed" could anyone at least please tell me what reasons there could be for getting this message for every repositorie. other than (your not connected) cause I am.07:18
jgrieves_AIX is a pretty strong OS its not good at a LOT but what it does it does WELL07:18
=== zcat[1] runs 'linux on power' - Beige G3 :)
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jgrieves_xcat[1]  cheers!!!07:18
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naliothcrimsun: are there linux geeks there who'll sign gpg keys?07:18
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zcat[1] g3 is power :)07:18
crimsunnalioth: I'm sure there are07:18
aztektumg3?07:18
crimsunmac g307:18
aztektumoh07:18
zcat[1] The last of the OldWorld mac's07:19
aztektumi missed his /me07:19
nderjmYeah!07:19
jgrieves_they'll miss our Power chips...07:19
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naliothzcat[1] : bless you, but i prefer my new worlds07:19
budluvawhat version of gnome does breezy come with?07:19
nderjmGreetings from Jamrock!07:19
jgrieves_Xbox 360 gret ready our, MS didn't go wrong with tah otne :)07:19
nderjm2.1207:19
aztektum2.12 i believe07:19
crimsunbudluva: 2.12.107:19
zcat[1] I'd prefer a new world too, but nobody wanted to give me one :(07:19
jgrieves_2.12.107:19
aztektum+.107:19
nderjmcool07:19
crimsunhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000038.html07:20
budluvacrimsun, so if i were to download themes, gtk2.0 would work?07:20
nderjm2.12.0++ :)07:20
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erickguys what is the link of smartboot manager of ubuntu07:20
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jgrieves_holy cow the torrent just doubled in speed :)07:20
jgrieves_w00t w00t some fat pipe just opened07:20
zenroxlol07:20
Dimi128can anyone even see this?07:20
mustard5!tell budluva about bum07:20
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aztektumdimi, yes07:21
zcat[1] Dimi128: no07:21
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zenroxhas that bot bin updated to breezy yet07:21
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zenroxwe are killing the irc servers07:21
jgrieves_lol07:21
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nickrud!upgradetobreezy07:21
ubotunickrud: I don't know, could you explain it?07:21
staniaI have some question. Is there an opened breezy apt archive server, which is released today ?07:21
mdzjgrieves_: :-)07:22
aztektumit's all the extra traffic from the "has breezy been released" questions07:22
nickrudheh, old factoid07:22
crimsunstania: topic.07:22
shermanatorROFL@ubotu07:22
Mayhemits.... Jigdo time!07:22
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staniacrimsun, Thank you. :)07:22
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zenroxya ubuntu will probly have to do its orw irc server to help relever the load07:22
zenroxrelive07:22
jgrieves_question for you guys, how many times do you think you will answer "how do i upgrade to breezy"07:22
calcfinished downloading the cd :)07:22
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Hobbseejgrieves_: far too many07:22
crimsunjgrieves_: none, I'll just keep typing "topic"07:22
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aztektumhehe07:23
jgrieves_ok come on07:23
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aztektumi was gonna say something along those lines crimsun07:23
zcat[1] once I finish the download, the answer will be "here, take this CD.."07:23
jgrieves_crismon that's too easy :)07:23
crimsunzcat[1] : that's the spirit :-)07:23
calcer oops07:23
zenroxtopic worked for meee07:23
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zenroxlol07:23
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calci downloaded the wrong cd, gar!07:23
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jgrieves_calc LOL07:23
calcwell i'll share that one instead07:23
airmikeylol07:23
aztektumhaha07:23
HobbseeLOL calc!07:23
aztektumwe're laughing w/ you07:24
aztektumnot @ you07:24
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calci want the dvd anyway so i was just downloading it to help seed07:24
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calci downloaded the live cd instead of install07:24
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zenroxoh well07:24
zcat[1] I need another pack of blanks..07:24
zenroxcalc,  thats probaly a good one to be seeding07:24
staniaI'm so sorry for my foolish07:24
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nickrudtorrent is interesting; my upload is twice my download currently07:24
jgrieves_stania its ok07:24
aztektumyeah cuz i need to download that tonight07:24
zcat[1] torrenting 386-install, ppc-install and 386-live at the moment .. I really want kubuntu-ppc but it's not up yet :(07:25
jgrieves_nick the fast mirror someone posted overtook the torrent07:25
jgrieves_i just want to help seed07:25
zenroxnickrud,  it will be done by the time you wake up tomaro07:25
erickguys where can I get the smart boot manager of ubuntu07:25
zenroxa watched pot dont boil07:25
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funkyHatcalc, i think you can install from the livecd now :)07:25
jgrieves_use all thisi freaking Time Warner CRUD07:25
nickrudheh, I'm up to date. just seeding07:25
jhankdo you guys know a server in australia where i can download the cd image of breezy07:25
zcat[1] ooh, back to 350k up.. sweet.07:25
zcat[1] jhank: torrent..07:26
bob2jhank: dude, it got pushed out minutes ago07:26
cesari got 10 minutes and i cannont pass of the 0% :S07:26
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bob2jhank: you'll have to wait for the local mirrors to get it07:26
jhankwhat does pushed out mean?07:26
Hobbseejhank: what ISP are you with?  can you grab it from there?07:26
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budluvawhat happened to the run application launcher?07:26
jhankoptus07:26
crimsunbudluva: alt+F207:27
fatejudgerwhat is the ETA for Kubuntu syncing?07:27
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aztektumjhank, kind of slang for "pushed out the door to the masses". it's released07:27
bob2jhank: it means that they don't magically appear on your ISP's web server; they have to go download it from ubuntu to begin with, which takes time07:27
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budluvacrimsun, can i run an application as root via alt-f2?07:27
cesarhey, what big changes have the new gnome ?07:27
zenroxplease use torrent07:27
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jgrieves_cesar, gnome website has a great list07:27
pixelmonkeybudluva: check out gksudo07:27
jhankah i see i knew that it's released *g* okay, i07:27
jsgotangcotorrent torrent torrent07:27
aztektumdiff version number07:27
zenroxdont slam the main server07:27
ajmitch_hi Unfrgiven07:27
jsgotangcohttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000038.html07:28
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carthikmine's downloaded alright!! THANK YOU07:28
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jsgotangcohey Unfrgiven07:28
jhanki'll wait... :)07:28
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:bob2] : Breezy is out: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000038.html | Official Ubuntu Help channel | 5.10 released! http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
pixelmonkeybudluva, works just like sudo, but prompts you with a gtk dialog for password07:28
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bob2bah07:28
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jgrieves_nice one bob2 ;)07:28
MagicFab_Mtlnice - DVD torrents > 150kbps07:28
bob2also, the first person to ask about backports wins a trip to the moon without a space suit07:28
jgrieves_lol07:28
zenroxya07:28
aztektumi have a ? about backports07:29
mustard5hehe bob207:29
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budluvapixelmonkey, so gksudo bum ?07:29
bob2if you don't know what a backport is, you shouldn't be using them07:29
jgrieves_bob2 i give it half an hour07:29
calcbob2: how about when is dapper going to be opened? ;)07:29
sanitariowhich DVD should I get for x86?07:29
Myrttibob2: do I get trip if I ask you why asking about backports gives me the ticket?07:29
nickrudso, when does breakage  get started?07:29
bob2sanitario: i386...07:29
calcsanitario: the dvd's aren't available yet07:29
sanitariocalc: ah07:29
jgrieves_!ask bob2 about backports07:29
ubotujgrieves_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:29
pixelmonkeybudluva, sure, you can do that07:29
bob2nickrud: when everyone sobers up07:29
MagicFab_Mtlcalc: they sure are07:29
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jgrieves_!tell bob2 about backports07:29
highvoltagelinuxboy:07:29
jgrieves_w00t w00t :)07:29
nickrudah, gotta love devs07:29
naliothbob2: where's the logs link?07:29
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calcMagicFab_Mtl: er where?07:30
aztektumif i don't know about back ports but i'm not using them, that's ok right?07:30
jgrieves_lol bob2 sorry!!!I didn't mean to put the ! in front just habit!07:30
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naliothaztektum: perfectly ok. use them with caution07:30
calcif so they managed to bypass the private area i am looking in07:30
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Hentai^NTbob2 will ubuntu get ported to ultrasparc or any other arch than just x86,x64, and ppc?07:30
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jgrieves_will not exist until!!!!!!07:31
budluvaanyone her familiar with xgamma?07:31
jbroomeuntil when?  OMG WHEN?!07:31
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crimsunHentai^NT: already ported to ia64 and sparc07:31
zcat[1]   -- I want my K. D. E. --07:31
Hentai^NToh07:31
calcHentai^NT: there are hppa cds on torrent site for pre release07:31
nickrudbudluva, not familiar, but I've used it07:31
Hentai^NTsparc or ultrasparc?07:31
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HiddenFlywhen i boot, i get error 'special device /dev/sda6 doesnt exist' and it attempts to run e2fsck or something like that which fails to run. how do i fix that?07:31
naliothbob2: we dont have the logs link in the /topic anymore?07:31
Hentai^NThp pa hmm ok07:31
calci don't think the sparc/ia64/hppa are normal released versions though07:31
Hentai^NTjust wondering07:32
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budluvanickrud, know any way to pass an xgamma command on boot so when my x login screen shows its automatically brighter? ie xgamma -d :0 -gamma 2.4 is the command i use to adjust brightness everytime i boot, its just a pain07:32
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:bob2] : Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu, http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/, http://tinyurl.com/b3akz | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ | Documentation: http://tinyurl.com/7ptr6 - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat | dapper will not exist until everyon sobers up, so no upgrades or backports for now
bob2nalioth: no space, put it back next week07:33
bob2whiprush: yay07:33
cafuego_nalioth: doesn't fit07:33
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jgrieves_how can everyon sober up07:33
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linuxboyhighvoltage07:33
Madpilotbob2: "everyon"? ;)07:33
jbroomejgrieves_: sober up, wake up.. whatever works07:33
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MagicFab_MtlDVDs are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd07:33
jgrieves_jbroome, was making fun of mispelling ;)07:33
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:bob2] : Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu, http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/, http://tinyurl.com/b3akz | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ | Documentation: http://tinyurl.com/7ptr6 - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat | dapper will not exist until everyone sobers up, so no upgrades or backports for now
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naliothbob2: next week will provide lots of reading, i guess07:33
Tomcat_\o/07:33
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carthikIt's gonna be a loooong wait till April 200607:34
bob2jgrieves_: hey, you got until next week07:34
nickrudbudluva, done that once (bad monitor), a sec. my memory may return.07:34
jgrieves_oh yeah DANG straight!07:34
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carthikSomeone should set up an elaborate april fools' joke, me thinks :o)07:34
budluvanickrud, k07:34
MagicFab_Mtlcalc: DVDs are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd07:34
jgrieves_download complete07:34
graigno april fools about my os pls lol.07:34
HiddenFlywhat would be the repositories to upgrade to breezy?07:34
Hobbsee!upgrade2breezy07:35
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:35
bob2HiddenFly: /topic07:35
zcat[1] hehe.. ubuntu-6.04-pr released on 1/1 ?07:35
nickrudbudluva, I set up an .xsession; xgamma, then gnome-session, if I remember correctly07:35
erickfirst time user of postfix in ubuntu need help in configurationn07:35
zcat[1] err 1/407:35
HiddenFlybob2: yea i noticed, but found only images there07:35
calcMagicFab_Mtl: those aren't final, but are of course close07:35
shermanatorbob2, dapper? whats that?07:35
wickedpuppy!paste07:35
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:35
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bob2HiddenFly: the 3rd link explains how to update07:35
bob2shermanator: the next version of ubuntu07:35
budluvajust add my xgamma line to /home/budluva/,xsession ? and ~/.gnome-session ?07:35
DjKriticalHas anyone here managed to install cvscedega using a fresh install of breezy?07:35
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cafuego_sudo perl -e "s/hoary/breezy/" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:36
bob2DjKritical: #cedega07:36
carthikjhank, distrowatch.com is giving me timed outs :)07:36
shermanatorbob2, as if you guys have already named it :D wow!07:36
HiddenFlyok07:36
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calcMagicFab_Mtl: they might just rename them (not sure) but the way they are currently named they are just daily builds07:36
nickrudbudluva, gamma <parameters>, next line, exec gnome-session, I think07:36
DjKriticalbob2, #cedega doesn't suppose cvscedega07:36
HiddenFlydidnt notice the 3rd one :P07:36
jhankcarthik i was kidding ;)07:36
DjKriticalsupport*07:36
nickrud*xgamma07:36
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bob2DjKritical: how are we supposed to support random uncared for software from CVS?07:36
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MagicFab_Mtlcalc: tx., stopped seeding those :(07:36
DjKriticalwhat do you mean uncared for?07:36
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sector10i just had a big problem with adding a server to places07:36
linuxboywhere can I download breezy from? like a mirror or something to help with load07:37
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bob2DjKritical: if the only people allowed to fix it won't listen to problems, what can anyone else do?07:37
cafuego_linubittorrent, see /topic07:37
DjKriticalbob2: I'm trying to install it.. all I need to know is what packages I need.. thats why I need someone who has done it before07:37
Tomcat_linuxboy: BitTorrent? :>07:37
bob2linuxboy: /topic07:37
jgrieves_md5sum07:37
jgrieves_anybody got it07:37
zcat[1] linuxboy: torrent!!!07:37
jgrieves_crud07:37
bob2jgrieves_: the md6sum of all the isos are on the mirrors, next to the iamges07:37
jgrieves_069ff616c6d13f56326d7f4b4331c7c907:37
Madpilotjgrieves_: it'll be at the same place you got the ISO/torrent from07:37
jgrieves_bob2 i know but that's what i go07:37
zcat[1] has it been on /. yet?07:37
jgrieves_and it dont match07:37
Juhazis dappler a word? someone waving around a wet paintbrush causing all nearby surfaces be covered in spots?07:37
jgrieves_and i dont wanan re-downlaod07:37
cafuego_zcat[1] : Yes, you mist your first post.07:37
jgrieves_lol07:37
bob2Juhaz: "dapper"07:38
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zcat[1] darn.07:38
carthikJuhaz,  it is dapper07:38
bob2jgrieves_: time to learn rsync then07:38
shermanatorwoops: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php07:38
Juhazoops07:38
naliothJuhaz: yes it is a word07:38
aztektumzcat[1] , if you missed it on /. the first time, just try the next day07:38
cafuego_!dict dapper07:38
ubotuDictionary 'dapper' marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"07:38
jgrieves_bob2: haha dang07:38
Tomcat_"jaunty red hat"...07:38
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Tomcat_;D07:38
nickrudrflol07:38
cafuego_That an unfortunate example entry.07:38
icaurus_hi all07:38
zcat[1] hmm, not on slashdot that I can see..07:38
tgagay duck, eh?07:38
Hobbseezcat[1] : probably a good thing for a while!07:39
nickrudzcat[1] , be the one :)07:39
icaurus_anyone here using the new ubuntu thing?07:39
jgrieves_thing?07:39
icaurus_sorry07:39
zenroxicaurus_,  you mean breezy07:39
jgrieves_:)07:39
carthikthong?07:39
icaurus_yeah, sorry am a linux newb07:39
tgamy ali5451 card uses Headphone instead of Master Volume.. what can I do in ALSA to switch it back?07:39
bur[n] erw00t... torrents are gaining momentum :)  I'm up to 150k07:39
linuxboyicaurus_: nah, it sucks07:39
jgrieves_icaurus, no worries07:39
zcat[1] That's OK.. they'll probably mention it in about three days. And again in a week. :)07:39
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aztektumUbuntu = teh suck. OS/2 = new hotness07:40
icaurus_just wondering if anyone was able to download drivers from the ati site using breazy?07:40
crimsuntga: nothing yet except to adjust the volume control. Or, if you have a particular model, you can pass it as a quirk.07:40
icaurus_I keep getting text only :(07:40
graiglol, os/2?07:40
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zenroxicaurus_,  breezy has the drivers you just have to install your self07:40
aztektumgraig, don't question it!07:40
tgacrimsun, the 'master volume' setting does nothing.. and all the volume apps insist on using that07:40
glickanyone here a CS major?07:40
aztektum(:07:40
zenrox!tell icaurus_  ati07:40
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graigi played with os2 warp, before windows 95 came out,07:40
icaurus_zenrox: sorry to bug you dude, but how do you install them?07:40
crimsuntga: you can change the volume control07:41
Bicchiglick: yes07:41
graigwas os2 warp the last version of os2?07:41
paulproteusglick: I'm a cognitive science major with a CS concentration.07:41
tgacrimsun, how?07:41
zenrox!tell icaurus_  restricted_formats07:41
glickanyone take any courses on Operating Systems?07:41
crimsuntga: secondary-click and choose properties07:41
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Madpilotgraig: chat about other OSes should probably move to #ubuntu-offtopic07:41
zenroxor read the forum07:41
brodmannhey, i'm trying to run (sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins), i'm getting an error that the package is not available.07:41
bob2glick: lots of people have07:41
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brodmannthis is hoary im in07:41
Hobbseebrodmann: got all the repositories enabled?07:41
tgacrimsun, oh, you mean adjust Headphone and nevermind about Master Volume? that's what I'm doing atm..07:41
brodmannyeah07:41
paulproteusglick: I haven't, sadly.07:42
Hobbsee!tell brodmann about repositories07:42
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tgapaulproteus, what's cog sci useful for anyway? I'm keeping CS and psyc separate for now07:42
crimsuntga: modinfo <your sound card driver>07:42
bob2brodmann: then you need to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, along with the output of "apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-plugins"07:42
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bur[n] erhehe, i was just about to do that Hobbsee ;)07:42
nickrudbrodmann, what does apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-plugins say?07:42
Hobbseebur[n] er: gotta love that bot command lol07:42
bur[n] ernickrud: check ;)07:42
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Bicchiglick: just ask your question07:42
tgacrimsun, already did that, I can't see anything that would help07:42
Severianbrodmann, I got worse.  It found the gstreamer packages and they got errors during installation.  Maybe they are being worked on.07:42
paulproteustga: Beats me.  I'm going to get a masters in information security, and eventually head back to grad school for CS, me thinks.07:42
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bob2Severian: and the errors are...(#flood)07:42
tgacrimsun, modinfo snd_ali5451.. do you see anything in there?07:42
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bob2people do realise things won't be fixed if you don't report them, right?07:43
brodmannseverian, that's the problem i'm having07:43
crimsuntga: I'm not on a Linux machine atm07:43
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tgacrimsun, #flood for a moment?07:43
crimsuntga: idle there07:43
graigone thing i dont like about breezy, is how it does accessing with usb drives.07:43
xfelonis 5.10 the latest vesrion?07:43
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bob2xfelon: /topic07:43
carthikxfelon, yup07:43
bur[n] ergraig: ?07:43
budluvanickrud, it doesnt work07:43
bob2graig: did you file a bug?07:43
crimsunpaulproteus: hci hooks easily into cogsci07:43
crimsunpaulproteus: among many, many things07:43
carthikxfelon 200(5.10) october07:43
brodmannnickrud, i don't see anything07:44
bob2graig: if not, you'll probably have to deal with it for the next 6 months07:44
budluvanickrud, still have to manually enter my xgamma line into a term after login07:44
paulproteuscrimsun: That's true.07:44
Severianbob2,   OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 247Z: (): illegal instruction in idct8x8_s16_mmx07:44
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zcat[1] gonna keep refreshing /. so I can get frist psot on the story..07:44
bob2brodmann: 15:42:15           bob2 | brodmann: then you need to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, along with the output of "apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-plugins"07:44
paulproteuscrimsun: I'm just saying I didn't pick the degree for any applications of it. ;)07:44
nickrudbudluva, I recently lost all my notes, I'd have to research again07:44
bob2Severian: on what CPU?07:44
bur[n] erSeverian: bugzilla.ubuntu.com :)07:44
Severianbob2, It is a Pentium 2/36607:44
crimsuntga: ah well, you have to just use that. Some applications offer a software mixer.07:44
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budluvaanyone know how to pass a command on my xorg boot?07:44
bob2Severian: which bug # did you report this as?07:44
tgapaulproteus, heh, sounds about right.. I'm looking at a masters in information management07:45
bob2budluva: that's not the question07:45
crimsunpaulproteus: neither did I, so I stayed too long in school.07:45
bob2budluva: you're using gnome?07:45
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graigwell, its not a bug, its just something i don't like.  when you plug something in, and copy a bunch of files to it,  it doesn't start writing till you unmount it.07:45
paulproteuscrimsun: Interesting.07:45
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tgacrimsun, what about the vol-up and vol-down keys on my keyboard? how can I get those to use Headphone?07:45
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graigand then the icon dissapears, and you think its safe to remove it, but its still writing stuff.07:45
crimsuntga: yes, you'll have to use amixer07:45
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xfelonand i only need that 650mb file?07:45
nickrudbrodmann, it should say someting about candidate and installed, if you have universe repository enabled07:45
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jgrieves_the torrents are really heating up07:45
budluvabob2, yes, and i want to adjust brightness via xgamma (piece of crap monitor) because the login screen and my gnome session are dark07:45
Severianbob2, I have not.  I came here first.  bugzilla was to follow if the bug was not well known.  I'll have to create a bugzilla account and it seemed prudent to ask here first.  Is that bad?07:46
graigit would be cool if the usb drive icon changed to a status icon, displaying that its finishing unmounting.07:46
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bob2budluva: preferences -> system -> session, add it07:46
starscallinghas anyone gotten evolution to work with hotmail?07:46
sonoudhi, can i use dpkg install .deb package by a normal user by giving my personal prefix installation location?  i don't have root access.07:46
bob2Severian: not as long as you do end up reporting it :)07:46
starscallingi tried freepops but it doesnt seem to like it07:46
bob2graig: then suggest it07:46
bur[n] ergraig: sounds bug-reportable07:46
bob2sonoud: you can't07:46
xfelonHow come ive never herd of ubuntu?07:46
bob2sonoud: (generally)07:46
xfelonis it somewhat new?07:46
bob2xfelon: deprived life07:46
xfeloni guess07:46
sonoudbob2, ok. cheers.07:46
xfelonive never used linux07:46
graigbugreport tool?07:46
xfelonother than mandrake07:46
nickrudxfelon, you been away a while?07:46
bob2xfelon: 18 months old now07:46
carthikxfelon, slept too long? :o)07:46
xfeloniguess07:47
bob2graig: no, in bugzilla07:47
bob2xfelon: there you go07:47
xfeloni didnt see it on linuxiso.org ever07:47
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bur[n] ergraig: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com07:47
MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: long vacations ?07:47
xfeloni guess07:47
xfelonis it easy to use for linux newbie?07:47
bob2yes07:47
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jgrieves_yeah07:47
Madpilotxfelon: distrowatch.org mentions it fairly regularly07:47
jgrieves_dang it turn off auto start up NO I do not want to run syneptic07:48
MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: my parents (60yr. old) and my wife use it daily07:48
xfelongood07:48
airmikeyany laptops out there running breezy...if so how goes it ?07:48
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jgrieves_breezy is great07:48
bob2airmikey: works great on my ibm x4007:48
jgrieves_on an IBM T2307:48
crimsunditto bob2.07:48
jgrieves_and an Inspiron 860007:48
bob2airmikey: wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam07:48
airmikeycool07:48
MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: 1 "support request" from my parents in 3 months: "How do I eject a CD, again" ?07:48
Madpilotairmikey: lots of laptops - there was a big push for Breezy + laptops07:49
MagicFab_Mtl:)07:49
MayhemDamn.  Debian wget has renamed the option --non-verbose, so jigdo fails07:49
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airmikeyloaing on my 9300 dell07:49
xfelonlol07:49
tgajgrieves, I take it your donation cheque is in the mail07:49
airmikeyahh07:49
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MagicFab_Mtlairmikey: with 5.10 mine has bluetooth, wifi and unichrome (video) working out of the box07:49
jgrieves_tga im sorry?07:49
agonifiedhi all.I am new to linux. The problem is, ubuntu does not recognize my optical mouse.It works perfectly under other os's.. What is it???07:50
jgrieves_tga i must have missed something07:50
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xfelondoes VLC palyer work with linux?07:50
Vensonlol07:50
glick$25 bucks! boston to newyork flight!07:50
Vensonyes07:50
bob2xfelon: yes...07:50
naliothxfelon: yes07:50
brodmannnickrud, the error i get is "Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate07:50
xfelongood07:50
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MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: VLC runs nicely on a PIII 667Mhz07:50
naliothbrodmann: that pkg is unavailable atm07:50
bob2brodmann: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood07:50
tgajgrieves_, nevermind, just kidding07:51
xfelonk well07:51
nickrudbrodmann, then, see bob207:51
xfelonim going to download it tonight07:51
mdzMayhem: that's fixed in the 5.10 jigdo07:51
naliothbrodmann: you can open synaptic and choose all the pkgs you like07:51
xfelonand setup my computer to install it for tomorrow07:51
xfeloninstall = easy?07:51
bob2brodmann: assuming you checked packages.ubuntu.com and made sure it actually exists07:51
Hentai^NThmm time to boot linux07:51
jgrieves_tga, yeah i know but i dont get the joke :)07:51
naliothbob2: it's being kept back for some reason07:51
brodmannhmm07:51
jgrieves_u saying because i got 2 laptops?07:51
Mayhemmdz, but I'm trying to grab it from a Debian Etch box...07:51
bob2nalioth: that's not what brodmann's error says07:51
jgrieves_one's work laptop for IBM07:51
jgrieves_other is my baby07:51
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MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: install easy, yes07:51
Mayhemmdz, I can cope, just wondering where the blame lies :)07:51
Madpilotxfelon: yes, install is fairly easy07:51
Riddell** Announcing Kubuntu 5.10 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release.php **07:51
budluvabob2, thanks that worked07:52
erickanyone used openwebmail, can I use this on my ubuntu?07:52
xfelonwell07:52
xfeloni will stay in the channel while i install on my pc07:52
MagicFab_MtlPPC torrents sure are *hot*07:52
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naliothMagicFab_Mtl: yes aren't they?07:52
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dingn07:53
whiprushRiddell: congrats!07:53
zcat[1] they are? my PPC torrent it going out half as fast as the i386 one07:53
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MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: just make sure you have a good net connection - you may need it to install additional packages in the first few minutes you ll use U.07:53
deFryskblack coffee anyone ? ;p07:53
MagicFab_Mtlxfelon: unless you get the DVD :D07:54
brodmannok it's in the #flood07:54
paulproteusOh, a release happened?  That's nice.07:54
xfelon?07:54
xfeloni have cableone07:54
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Pamylummm... i'm new here07:54
MagicFab_Mtlzcat[1] : well, seeding from Montreal07:54
xfelon400kb/s down07:54
jgrieves_what's the est cd recordre for iso's07:54
tomlillisQuestion:07:54
zcat[1] est ?07:55
jgrieves_best07:55
jgrieves_whoops07:55
zcat[1] ahh.. one that works?07:55
jgrieves_yeah lol07:55
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jgrieves_last one i tried didn't07:55
naliothjgrieves_: k3b07:55
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brodmannbob2, did you get my /etc/apt/sources.list file?07:55
agonifiedhi all.I am new to linux. The problem is, ubuntu does not recognize my optical mouse.It works perfectly under other os's.. What is it???07:55
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tomlillisI let the update manager upgrade my Firefox install.  Now I am suddenly getting malformed-XUL errors whenever Firefox tries to open a download dialog.  Anyone else getting this, or am I independently screwed up?07:55
jgrieves_nalioth thank ya07:55
MagicFab_Mtljgrieves_: from Ubuntu: right-click, write to disc07:55
foxgamerI want to start programming in python. Can anyone help with what I need?07:55
tomlillisagonified: Who is the maker of the optical mouth?07:56
tomlillisEr, mouse.07:56
jgrieves_MagicFab_Mtl thanks...wow learn somethign new everyday07:56
tomlillis(What the hell is an optical mouth?  :P)07:56
naliothbrodmann: where did you send your sources.list? and did you check at packages.ubuntu.com for its existence?07:56
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agonified"chic"07:56
glickhmm trying to upgrade to ubuntu breezy i get this07:56
glickUnpacking replacement ksysguardd ...07:56
glickErrors were encountered while processing:07:56
glick /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb07:56
glickE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:56
agonifieda cheap one...07:56
Hobbseeglick: pastebin!07:56
tomlillisNever even heard of them.07:56
tomlillisHow old is it?07:56
deFryskglick, apt-get -f install07:56
naliothglick: do not paste in here please07:57
agonified1 week :)07:57
Hobbseenalioth: broodman's sources.list is in flood07:57
glicksorry07:57
MagicFab_Mtljgrieves_: ironic ? .. seriously, I hadn't realised it was there for some time...07:57
tomlillisIs it USB or PS/2?07:57
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naliothHobbsee: how lovely, since i am not07:57
Riddellglick: what's the error?07:57
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axeushmm: [4298781.190000]  smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported07:57
agonifiedeven the laser lights are off...   PS/2...07:57
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limiCongratulations on the release, guys!07:57
jgrieves_MagicFab_Mtl im serious i didn't see it there07:57
tomlillisCurious.07:58
jgrieves_MagicFab_Mtl i always thought ubuntu just didn't ship with one :)07:58
limihappy to see Plone 2.1 in there07:58
tomlillisLet me check something.07:58
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agonifiedwhen I boot the machine, lights are coming under it, but during ubuntu boot, lights gone...07:58
graignm, it doesn't do what i thought it did.07:58
axeus"Wrong fs type or other error."07:58
graigits not a bug.07:58
axeusetc..07:58
glickwhat does apt-get -f install do?07:58
foxgamerso when's the next release of ubuntu out?07:58
deFryskglick, fix it ?07:58
foxgamerhehe07:58
naliothglick: "fixes"07:58
glicki dont get why thats even an option07:59
ProtequeI can dist-upgrade to breezy now?07:59
aftertafglick:  type apt-get --help and see the options... :)07:59
aftertafProteque:  yes07:59
zcat[1] foxgamer: April 200607:59
foxgameryay!07:59
airmikeyis anyone running in raid 007:59
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Protequecool. will have to check if breezy has sawfish first then :)07:59
deFryskglick, just do it an rean man apt-get08:00
tomlillisagonified: It would seem that there aren't a lot of Linux drivers for Chic input devices.08:00
naliothProteque: yes you can. see /topic08:00
paulproteusglick: "-f" means "fix".08:00
deFryskread*08:00
MagicFab_Mtljgrieves_: in windows, there's burnatonce (google)08:00
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agonifiedok tomlillis08:00
graigwhats a chic input device?08:00
axeus"mount -t smbfs -o username=guest,password="" "//192.168.1.101/LAN" ~/Share" ..That should work. Aye?08:00
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agonifiedthank u very much..08:00
tomlillisI'd Google a bit.08:00
tomlillisSee if you can find one.08:00
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MagicFab_Mtlcraig: golden mouse ?08:01
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MagicFab_Mtl:)08:01
zcat[1] 500K up..08:01
bitbucketpoor08:01
paulproteuszcat[1] : Kilobytes per second?08:01
agonifiedtomlillis: what if I buy an ps/2 to usb converter?? may it work??08:01
zcat[1] I think so.. big K08:02
paulproteuszcat[1] : Nice.08:02
tomlillisI wouldn't guarantee it, but I have never had Ubuntu reject a USB input device on me before.08:02
axeusI've got 2 connections here. One of them is 1.5 mbps up. :S08:02
tomlillisThere are a lot of generic drivers out there that would probably suit your purpose if you went that route.08:02
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axeusThe one I'm on now is only 398kbps up I think...08:02
zcat[1] 200K each on the i386 images and 100k on the ppc..08:03
bitbucketaxeus:nice08:03
agonifiedcould you help me please with this?08:03
fatejudgercan I burn Kubuntu to a 650mb CD?08:03
pinucsetisn't breezy released?08:03
glickyay we are getting a crazy right wing evangelical christion for a supreme court judge with no prior judge experiance!08:03
agonifiedi am realy new to linux env. just 10 hours...08:03
graigscary huh?08:03
MagicFab_Mtlagonified: isthis a very old PC ? once happened to me, had to buy a USB2 card08:03
Riddellfatejudger: yes08:03
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bitbucketbreezy should come out today08:03
Riddellfatejudger: unless it's powerpc live08:03
aftertafagonified:  welcome :)08:03
pinucsetisn't breezy released?08:03
axeusglick: Sounds like your average bible belt town.08:03
agonifiedyes08:03
pinucsetok! :D08:03
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pinucsetbyeee08:03
funkyHatglick, YAY!:D08:03
tristanmikebitbucket, it's out, see /topic08:03
axeusglick: Full of fools.08:03
fatejudgerRiddell: but it's a 655 mb ISO08:03
MagicFab_Mtlfatejudger: dont think so08:03
tomlillisjgrieves_: Another suggestion would be using the Win32 version of CDRTools and the CDRTFrontEnd package.  Simple instructions, simple install, great software!08:03
agonifiedfrom 1994-508:03
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fatejudgerRiddell: and I need to use a cd-rw08:03
funkyHat;)08:03
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glickyeah this coutry is slowly goin down the shitter08:04
glicksoon we will be the christian version of iran08:04
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agonifiedthank u aftertaf08:04
funkyHat:/ are the certificates for the ubuntu wiki _ever_ going to get fixed?08:04
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tomlillisagonified: Welcome to the world of OSS, then!  I don't think you'll need much help beyond picking up a cheap PS/2 to USB converter, though.08:04
axeusglick: Actually it's just the bible belt.08:04
axeusglick: :P08:04
Riddellfatejudger: make sure you use a mirror which has synced  http://82.211.81.153/kubuntu/5.10/08:04
MagicFab_MtlfunkyHat: they look fine to me...08:04
MagicFab_Mtlother than the fact they are self-generated08:04
axeusUm........ rawr?08:05
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tomlillis(Incidentally, is anyone else having that malformed-XUL error?  I'm just trying to figure out if it's endemic to the package or if I hosed something locally.)08:05
MagicFab_MtlPerhaps they should buy some at Thawte :D08:05
fatejudgerRiddell: I'm downloading it from there right now08:05
agonifiedhmm. i thought you suggested to suit a generic driver into ubuntu..08:05
srfrogtom: i've seen them too08:05
agonifiedok then i will buy a converter08:05
zcat[1] You'd think Mark of all people could get a cert signed properly.. :)08:05
srfrogyou are talking about firefox in 5.10 right ?08:05
chavofatejudger, you can mount the iso and add it as a source also08:05
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tomlillissrfrog: That'd be it.08:05
funkyHatMagicFab_Mtl, maybe it's just me then :(08:05
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srfrogjs console gets full of 'em08:06
funkyHatthey always throw up an error for me08:06
aftertafguys, is there any point using the hoary staging backports repos any more when you are on breezy?08:06
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funkyHatwell... invalid or something... can't remember now08:06
MagicFab_MtlfunkyHat: well, what do you mean by "fix the certs" ? Where ?08:06
funkyHatwiki.ubuntu.com08:06
srfrogseems they started after i uninstalled the web dev extension08:06
paulproteusaftertaf: Nope.08:06
srfrog(bloated crap)08:06
MagicFab_Mtlif you examine the certs, check who is the issuer... most probably iut's canonical themselves08:06
limidoes anybody know if Ubuntu ships with a solution for Wi-fi on the PowerBooks in this release?08:06
tomlillisWeird.08:07
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paulproteuslimi: I'm afraid not.08:07
tomlillisThis is a new one for me.08:07
srfroghave you removed any extensions ?08:07
aftertafthx paulproteus i thought as much.08:07
paulproteuslimi: It's sad.  I have an iBook myself.08:07
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tomlillisIt started after last night's update cycle.  It's irritating the hell out of me, since it means I can't get any kind of download dialogue.08:07
tristan622phis there a CADD for ubuntu/linux?08:07
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tristan622phlike AutoCADD08:08
funkyHatthe https certificate makes my firefox shout at me08:08
graigtristan, there is blender. which is a 3d rendering/modeling program.08:08
_maydayj_tristan622ph QCAD...08:08
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zcat[1] Running apt-get dist-upgrade now.. I have a feeling this could be fun.08:08
tomlillistristan622ph: QCAD.08:08
MadpilotfunkyHat: it does that to everyone, it's not personal or anything ;)08:08
lillpellewhat is the recommended way to upgrade? from CD or apt?08:08
zcat[1] 938 upgraded, 295 newly installed, 40 to remove and 1 not upgraded.08:08
tristan622phthanks, ill try that08:08
funkyHatMadpilot, i thought so08:08
funkyHatthat's what i was asking08:08
zcat[1] NNeed to get 658MB of archives.08:08
graigi upgraded through apt,  it was pretty easy.08:09
limipaulproteus: yes, isn't it possible to use some sort of wrapper to make use of the Windows drivers for that chipset or something?08:09
funkyHatis it ever going to be fixed?08:09
tomlillislillpelle: I don't think there's a "recommended" way, per se.  But apt dist upgrades are generalyl very smooth.08:09
aftertafzcat[1] :  hehe nejo08:09
lillpelleOK, then just change the apt-sources file?08:09
paulproteuslimi: Not on a Mac, sadly.08:09
aftertaf*enjoy... ;)08:09
jan_/part/part08:09
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paulproteuslimi: There is work to reverse engineer a drive.08:09
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limipaulproteus: yes, for the past few years - or did Mark hire someone to actually do it?08:10
jhankand is there something like D08:10
jhanklike 3D Studio?08:10
paulproteuslimi: No, Mark hasn't.08:11
paulproteuslimi: They're actually making progress now.  I'm on the mailing list.08:11
limipaulproteus: ah, cool08:11
glickmy cpu is happy!08:11
graigjhank, you could try blender. as far as i know thats the only 3d modeling program.08:11
jhankokay thanks08:11
limipaulproteus: I worked for Canonical a bit in the start, not sure if we met08:12
wezzerBreezy!08:12
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funkyHatlol08:13
graigi love inkscape, and gimp :)08:13
glickwhats inkscape?08:13
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MagicFab_Mtlwezzer: yeah!08:14
tristanmikeglick, illustrator for linux08:14
tgaglick,  a vector drawing program08:14
tgatristanmike, funny08:14
graigits fun :)08:14
tgathe Xara thing is coming to Linux08:14
tgait could prove interesting08:14
graigyeah,08:14
Madpilottga: Xara?08:14
tgahttp://www.xara.com/products/xtreme/screenshots.asp08:15
tgasoon to be released as open source08:15
graigi downloaded the xara linux demo, it was pretty neat, very fast and neat.08:15
graigi think xara can do blured edges.08:15
graigso you can do shadows and stuff really easily.08:15
ompbreezy torrent is sloow :(08:15
khermanshey its out, what exact time was Breezy released?08:15
ompi dono08:16
ompit was about 1-2 hours ago though08:16
paradonabout 2 hours ago.08:16
tgaomp, try again tomorrow08:16
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limiomp: announce it on Slashdot, that will make it go faster :)08:16
khermansyea!08:16
tgalimi, not if there are no seeds08:16
khermansok, everyone go there a post it08:16
khermansim going to drop the torrent on our 1 Gb pipe08:16
zcat[1] There's a musical version of Princess Bride; I'm sure we all needed to know that!!08:17
lillpelleI'm getting > 400kB/s from a mirror...08:17
Madpilotkhermans: please do, it's currently glacial...08:17
[CoFR] Jacq46 seeds for me ... ~200kB/s inbound at the moment08:17
SeverianI just announced it on lxer.com  I edited the announcement just a bit to mention that torrents were available at the download sites.08:17
tgalillpelle, at least start seeding after you get the iso08:17
lillpelle(only have 1Mbit/s out, but can seed when I am done upgrading)08:17
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srfrogfinally, a debian that works08:20
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airmikeyput in a dvd movie..totem opens but movie doesnt play..what do i need08:20
_maydayj_airmikey - libdvdcss08:21
tristanmike!tell airmikey about dvd08:21
graighmm, wierd it wouldn't let me connect to the tracker.08:21
detWhy does Ubuntu ship with xchat and not xchat-gnome?08:21
srfrog!tell srfrog about dvd08:21
graigis xchat gnome better?08:22
srfroggraig: gaim irc is not bad08:22
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tgameh, it conflicts with xchat-common and ubuntu-desktop and all08:22
VoX!nvidia08:22
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:22
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jnoonanyone use BottomFeeder?08:22
naliothgraig: same engine, slightly different look, gnome hooks08:23
MagicFab_Mtlf-spot is among the great new stuff in 5.10 - http://gnomejournal.org/article/23/an-introduction-to-f-spot08:23
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naliothjnoon: bottomfeeder?08:23
MagicFab_MtlI think it's in universe - package: f-spot08:23
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feral_kidIs there any easy way to upgrade myself from 5.04 to 5.10?08:24
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glickwhen i do apt-get install ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop it says it wont be installed because of unmet dependancies08:24
naliothubotu: tell feral_kid about upgrade2breezy08:24
glickubuntu-desktop: Depends: libgl1-mesa but it is not going to be installed08:24
naliothglick: i smell unofficial repos08:25
bur[n] er!tell feral_kid about Breezy08:25
Hmmmmis breezy out yet?08:25
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bur[n] erHmmmm: yes08:25
glicknalioth, nah its official repos08:25
carthikHmmmm, read the topic :)08:25
Celabornhttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/08:25
MagicFab_Mtlcan someone explain the !tell thing ;)08:25
blue_sky hi08:25
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naliothglick: have you EVER used unofficial repos?08:25
bur[n] erglick: maybe that repo isn't synced yet?08:25
MadpilotMagicFab_Mtl: that gives orders to our resident bot, ubotu08:25
naliothMagicFab_Mtl: /msg ubotu help08:25
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glicknalioth, nope08:26
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MagicFab_Mtlnalioth: tx08:26
carthikMagicFab_Mtl, ubotu is a bot ....08:26
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MagicFab_Mtlall: tx08:26
naliothglick: see bur[n] er's comment above08:26
firestormhowdy...Which package can I find the 'dos2unix' and 'unix2dos' tools in?08:26
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VoXi did an update on my amd64 about 12 hours ago, and some package that was updated has majorly broken the nvidia packages, do the point that i'm having serrious issues even /removing/ the package so i can re-install it. how would i find out which package it was, and who do i report it to?08:26
jnoonnalioth, yes bottomfeeder08:26
khermansferal_kid, $ sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade08:26
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naliothjnoon: i just now googled it, and since nobody has answered you, i guess not08:27
glickbur[n] er, everything else worked08:27
Hmmmmcarthik, oops, thanks08:27
glickexcept apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:27
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jnoonwell... does anyone use an atom feed reader to check their gmail accounts?08:28
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tgajnoon: no, you're the only one08:28
tristanmikeI use Evolution for my gmail08:28
VoXanyone?08:28
jnoonevolution for gmail? hmm didnt know you could do that08:28
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tgaevolution-data-server is doing funny things on startup.. like hogging 100% of cpu08:29
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khermansjnoon, yeah or thunderbird -- just use smtp/pop08:29
tgajnoon: they've been offering pop3 for a while now08:29
bur[n] ergmail is poppable08:29
graigi cant sign up for gmail cause i don't have a cell phone.08:29
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khermansgraig, just give a false one08:29
jnoonoh... that kills the nice gmail interface tho ;)08:29
glickwhat version of gnome does breezy use?08:29
xuniluserHow do I add the thesaurus in openoffice.org2?08:29
bur[n] erglick: 2.12.108:29
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khermansglick, 2.1208:29
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RobNycubuntu torents is so slow08:30
graigis there anyway to get gthumb, to go to the image instead of the folders view when you open a picture in nautilus?08:30
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Hughiewould anyone know why when i go to use "make" in the terminal it acts as if it doesnt know what it is like its not installed?08:30
Hughiei have a fresh install of ubuntu08:31
nalioth_zZzHughie: do you have 'build-essential' installed?08:31
Hughieand i am pretty much a noob08:31
Hughiehmm  i dont think i was given that option08:31
wilhelmme too!08:31
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gogetayo08:31
nalioth_zZzHughie: install "build-essential" and compile away08:31
khermansRobNyc, the torrents are fast for me -- im almost done mirroring all the releases via torrent08:31
gogetai finished the instaler but it didnt setup x08:31
khermansjust started 10 minutes ago08:31
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Hughieis that in the add programs thing?08:32
RobNyckhermans: weird08:32
RobNycwhats ur connection08:32
khermans1 Gbit08:32
RobNycmines 5mbps/384kbps08:32
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell Hughie about synaptic08:32
gogetawhat do i do now08:32
freddyhrmm...does anyone know how to change the port of the gnome-bittorrent client?08:32
ilba7rso is breezy officially out yet?08:32
bur[n] erHughie: nope... use "synaptic"08:32
dicrapioanyone tried upgrading to 5.10 by changing the names in sources file?08:32
MagicFab_Mtlditto - torrents fast + almost finished all live + installs08:32
RobNycilba7r: check distro watch08:32
Hughielol thank you nalioth08:32
Hughieokay what is that? O.o08:32
nalioth_zZzdicrapio: quite a few of us08:32
gogeta?08:32
dicrapioany probs?08:32
bur[n] erHughie: under system -> administration -> synaptic package manager08:32
gogetayes lol08:33
MagicFab_Mtldicrapio: I did that on 2 separate systems - worked fine08:33
freddyhrmm...does anyone know how to change the port of the gnome-bittorrent client?08:33
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gogetainstaler didnt set up x08:33
dicrapiokool, thx08:33
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nalioth_zZzHughie: "build-essential" is a metapackage that will pull in most of the programs you'll need to compile08:33
bur[n] erfreddy: use azureus? ;)08:33
Hmmmmis there a breezy DVD yet?08:33
ilba7rok robnyc i thought i should check here first though08:33
nalioth_zZzfreddy: dont repeat so often08:33
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MagicFab_MtlHmmmm: no final DVDs yet08:33
xuniluserHow do i add thesaurus to my openoffice.org2?08:33
freddynalioth_zZz, ok mom08:33
MagicFab_MtlHmmmm: however nightly releases from yesterday are there - its almost the same08:34
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Hmmmmany idea as to when I should expect it, MagicFab_Mtl ?08:34
Hmmmmthe final one that is08:34
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fatejudgerwow08:34
wilhelmpeople question! is there any game that works with ubuntu? thanks!08:34
Sund00biewith the intsall for ubuntu, is there anyway to do an advanced isntall of grub ?08:34
fatejudgerthis is so slow08:34
MagicFab_MtlHmmmm: I'd say next few hours...08:34
fatejudgerincreadibly slow08:34
chavowilhelm, there's a game or two yes08:34
graigneverwinter nights works in ubunt.08:34
Hughieokay cool, but when i got to do that it says i need libc6-dev08:34
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tristanmikewilhelm, what do you mean by "any game"08:35
Sund00biewilhelm: UT200408:35
GTroy_does breezy come with FF 1.5?08:35
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dicrapioso are the backports ready for breezy?08:35
wilhelmlike nba live 06?08:35
tristanmikewilhelm, America's Army and Enemy Territory08:35
wilhelmsorry im a new user of ubuntu...08:35
Sund00biemaybe with wine or wineX08:35
chiddyGTroy_, probably has 1.07, i don't think 1.5 is final yet, is it?08:35
chavoenemy territory rocks!08:35
paulproteusfatejudger: The download, or the OS?08:35
tristanmikewilhelm, no, nothing like that naitively, but you could try Wine or Cedega08:35
chavo1.5 is beta08:35
freddyLOL nba live 200608:35
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MagicFab_MtlHmmmm: nightlies at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/08:36
glicki have wine but cant think of any windows apps i want to run08:36
Sund00biegrub keeps getting installed to hda but i need it to install to hdb ??08:36
GTroy_that makes sense chiddy08:36
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=== Topic for #ubuntu: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu, http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/, http://tinyurl.com/b3akz | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ | Documentation: http://tinyurl.com/7ptr6 - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu IRC info - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat | dapper will not exist until everyone sobers up, so no upgrades or backports for now
=== Topic (#ubuntu): set by bob2 at Thu Oct 13 07:33:44 2005
(tristanmike/#ubuntu) graig, I know, I suggested enemy territory and america's army, why did you think I didn't?08:37
(glick/#ubuntu) hehe i have xmms08:37
(glick/#ubuntu) winamp sucks08:37
(bur[n] er/#ubuntu) heh, whatever08:37
(MagicFab_Mtl/#ubuntu) xmms pretty much does the same as winamp08:37
(khermans/#ubuntu) gogeta, you dont need to get the new ISO08:37
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=== bur[n] er would say that winamp is a lot more featureful
(khermans/#ubuntu) gogeta, just do an aptitude update08:37
(khermans/#ubuntu) and upgrade08:37
(gogeta/#ubuntu) ok08:38
(bur[n] er/#ubuntu) beep-media-player rox all over xmms anyway ;)08:38
(gogeta/#ubuntu) but x didnt setup08:38
(gogeta/#ubuntu) on preview08:38
(khermans/#ubuntu) oh08:38
(paulproteus/#ubuntu) bur[n] er: Right on.08:38
(paulproteus/#ubuntu) bmp > xmms08:38
(MagicFab_Mtl/#ubuntu) gogeta: what video card do you have ?08:38
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(gogeta/#ubuntu) x isnt setup at all lol thats what it tells me08:38
(MagicFab_Mtl/#ubuntu) gogeta: do u have access to the console ? (text login)08:38
gogetayep08:38
=== bur[n] er especially appreciates the ubuntu default bmp skin :)
starscalling:/08:39
starscallingwhere would a general config file go for something um08:39
j0bezoneI use xmms since 199708:39
starscallingsay for instance gotmaill?08:39
MagicFab_Mtlgogeta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:39
j0bezoneor even earlier.08:39
starscallingsomething that i installed from apt-get?08:39
GoonieWhere is the Breezy DVD release? I can only find Install CD & Live CD...08:39
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gogetalol i dont even knoe default root pass08:39
gogetait didnt een ask to set that08:40
MagicFab_MtlGoonie: not official yet08:40
TidusGoonie: ubuntu's designed to fit most stuff that a normal user would use on a single CD08:40
j0bezoneI think it was the 2nd app I learned about that would play mp3's. The first was mpg123 :)08:40
Sund00bie:(08:40
MagicFab_Mtlgogeta: there's no root account. The "root password" is the one from the first user you created08:40
bur[n] ermpg123 was my first :)08:40
gogetai see08:40
Gooniemagicfab: when will it be official?08:40
tristanmikewilhelm, do you have a question08:40
wilhelmmp308:40
bur[n] erespecially fun over ssh when starting out ;)08:40
gogetabrb\08:40
Goonietidus: that's ok, but the install cd does not contain a live cd, which the dvd does08:41
MagicFab_MtlGoonie: I guess it is already but hasn't been up[loaded/ moved08:41
graigcan you open a file share to a windows box with ssh?08:41
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tristanmike!tell wilhelm about mp308:41
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MagicFab_MtlGoonie: you can get the nightly at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/08:41
Tidusgogeta: technically, MagicFab_Mtl is incorrect.  there IS a root account, but it's locked by default in favor of the sudo program08:41
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Sund00biecan u assign which hdds mbr u install grub to in the install ???08:41
bur[n] erso when do the backports repos open up? ;)08:41
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MagicFab_MtlTidus: I stand corrected, that right08:41
j0bezoneand I remember when I first installed a beta of Gnome, and being amazed by all the cute icons, and themes (there was a funky cheese theme, which made applications seem to be made of cheese (yellow with holes).08:42
taotimerealplayer10gold.bin wants libstdc++.so.5 hoow do i get it08:42
Tidustaotime: apt-get install libstdc++508:42
glickwhy do they call grey hair blue08:42
fatejudgerwhy do you have realplayer?08:42
glick?08:42
Slaj_Rscripting question:  In a bash script, I issue the command "cd /home/me/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/blah/blah." When trying to run the script, I get "no such directory."  Is there a syntax problem?08:42
taotimefatejudger : to listen to music on the internet08:42
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dicrapioi noticed the backports for breeze are not ready, should i comment them out before upgrading/08:42
fatejudgertaotime: you do realize you can use Kaffeine for that right?08:43
shermanatortaotime, xmms can play internet radio fine08:43
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fatejudgertaotime: which is a million times better than that shitty realplayer08:43
graigi tried to install realplayer, so i could watch videos in the browser or movie trailers, and it wont recognise the plugin.08:43
MagicFab_MtlBurner: use lsb_release -a to check what's your version08:43
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tristanmikefatejudger, language please08:43
bur[n] erMagicFab_Mtl: :)08:44
irvinhi08:44
bur[n] erthanks08:44
MagicFab_Mtldicrapio wins the trip to the moon (without spacesuit) :D08:44
taotimefatejudger: try www.smashits.com and see if kaffeine works cause i will try anything as long as it works08:44
dicrapio:(08:44
fatejudgertaotime: you have to download the codecs off of mplayer's website08:44
gefbalshello gud day to all just asking how to counter the UDI mount mount volume problem on my floppy?08:44
fatejudgertaotime: and put the codecs in the appropriate directory08:44
taotimeshermanator : try that for me will ya www.smashits.com08:44
MagicFab_Mtldicrapio: (earlier joke)08:44
taotimeyes i am from texas08:44
dicrapio:P08:44
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MagicFab_Mtl;)08:45
MagicFab_Mtldicrapio: check the topic08:45
MagicFab_Mtlsomeone mentioned no backports for now08:46
=== starscalling stabs hotmail
MagicFab_Mtlgefbals: UDI ?08:46
starscallingWORK WITH EVOLUTION DARNIT >_> lol08:46
airmikeyso do i haved to go get  a tar file of libdvdcss208:46
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dicrapiodam it wont go any higher08:46
EpheMeroNsup everyone08:46
airmikeywhat up08:47
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MagicFab_Mtlairmikey: more like a package...08:47
Tidusstarscalling: i don't think that hotmail will work with anything except their own web interface unless you pay them08:47
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dicrapiocan u paste the link real quick?08:47
EpheMeroNgetting ready to grab the new ubunto off a torrent :)08:47
EpheMeroNubuntu can dual-boot with winxp easily yes?08:47
Tidusdicrapio: what irc client are you using?08:47
gefbalsMagicFab Mtl: yeah..08:47
dicrapiokopete's08:47
MagicFab_MtlEpheMeroN: dual boot yeah08:48
Tidusdicrapio: ah.... you could try typing just /topic and it might be able to print the topic08:48
Tidusi know irssi does it that way08:48
MagicFab_Mtlgefbals: I mean WHAT is UDI ?08:48
dicrapiothx08:48
EpheMeroNnice08:48
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EpheMeroNUbuntu uses Grub bootloader?08:48
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locomortoyes08:48
ProtequeEpheMeroN: or lilo08:48
MagicFab_MtlEpheMeroN: yes08:48
EpheMeroNoh it has the option for either during install?08:48
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Protequeor yboot08:48
gefbalsMagicFab Mtl: it just appear on my pop-up window when i mount my floppy....08:49
MagicFab_MtlEpheMeroN: I think it uses lilo if you erase the entire disk and only install U.08:49
shermanatortaotime, doesnt work well... real internet radio stations allow you to download a .pls file or a .m3u file which can be run via xmms, like www.rantradio.com08:49
gefbalsMagicFab Mtl: some kind of an error08:49
TidusMagicFab_Mtl: it uses grub by default.  i have an ubuntu only laptop, and it installed grub08:49
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MagicFab_MtlEpheMeroN: but if you have another OS, like XP, it detects it and proposes to install grub08:49
EpheMeroNexcellent08:49
ceeKayquick question- does the current ubuntu liveCD include ndiswrapper and wpa-supplicant?08:49
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MagicFab_Mtlgefbals: unless you give us the full error it's not easy to help08:49
VoXi did an update on my amd64 about 12 hours ago, and some package that was updated has majorly broken the nvidia packages, do the point that i'm having serrious issues even /removing/ the package so i can re-install it. how would i find out which package it was, and who do i report it to?08:50
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glickdamn this is taking a long damn time!08:50
bjvon another box i've a printer, my ubuntu liveCD loaded lexmark "510 series" drivers for it.. how do get that driver for my current installed ubuntu OS, on another box??08:50
MagicFab_MtlTidus: I think what I described was in warty08:50
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glicki want to run kernel 0.208:50
bjvthe liveCD just has 1 giant .cloop file, so i cant find the .pdd or whatever.08:50
gefbalsMagicFab Mtl: error: UDI mount mount volume08:50
EpheMeroNif ubuntu has good wireless support then i'm sure i'll be happy with it08:50
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TidusMagicFab_Mtl: my ubuntu only laptop is running hoary, and my last ubuntu install, which was warty, used grub only08:51
taotimesermanator : i installed realplayer anyways but the music from that site doesn't work any idea how else to do it with xmms or something else08:51
glickis that a agood kernel?08:51
MagicFab_Mtlceekay: dont think so. isn't wpaSupp in universe ?08:51
glickkernel 0,208:51
starscallingis anyone able to check their hotmail or yahoo accounts through evolution?08:51
glickor kernel 1.008:51
starscallingjust give me a glimmer of hope please08:51
ozyes I can check all of my email08:51
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starscallingok08:51
ceeKayMagicFab_Mtl yeah i'm pretty sure it is... looking for a livecd that will have my wifi working long enough to install gentoo :)08:51
ceeKaythanks08:51
wilhelmtristanmike: how will i add a program, like ym?08:51
Tidusstarscalling: external mail check (whether it be pop3 for yahoo, or HTML for hotmail) is a pay service on both08:51
starscallingill hit you up tomorrow perhaps, because im having the worst time trying to get that to work oz08:51
taotimeceekay :  installing gentto via wifi is not fun08:51
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MagicFab_MtlEpheMeroN: wifi sure is better. I used to need ndiswrapper and now it worked out of the box (broadcom chipset)08:52
ozis this release of breezy different than having all the updates to the proeview release?08:52
EpheMeroNexcellent :)08:52
ceeKaytaotime: yeah i'm gettting headaches just thinking about it08:52
tristanmikewilhelm, I assume you mean yahoo messenger, you use Gaim, installed by default, it supports mulitple protocols, like msn, yahoo, etc.08:52
EpheMeroNI have a Prism2-based chipset for my pcmcia wireless card08:52
starscallingTidus:: there are supposedly workarounds... just ive not found one that works. thank god [or rather the developers for apt-get remove --purge] 08:52
starscalling:P08:52
EpheMeroNlinksys wpc11 i believe it's called08:52
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starscalling[it works in gaim for instance...08:52
glickapt-get -f install isnt fixing my broken packages08:52
starscalling] 08:52
MagicFab_Mtloz: not, it's the same, from what I've experienced and been told08:52
ozcrap!! i still can't play dvd's08:53
MagicFab_Mtloz: so I mean, no, it's not different08:53
starscallingheh playing dvds.... tomorrow tomorrow *me sings*08:53
ozI have been going around i circles here08:53
wilhelmok, thanks!08:53
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Tidusoz: there is one library you need, which is libdvdcss208:54
taotimeceekay : i did this last time may be will work for you. my cousin has an office with broadband, took my desktop cpu/tower to their offfice and installed debian via network and then came back home and tried it with my monitor at home and it complained a little bit but then started working08:54
dionhi...............08:54
ozOn BeOs I hae full functionality except no jave because I am using the pro version and not the corporate edition08:54
wilhelmgtg!08:54
ozIn Kubuntu I can't get sound on my sb live08:54
ozOn solaris I can't get anything08:54
glickhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/oJw4B384.html08:54
ozon Breezy I can't playdvd's08:54
Tidusoz: easy workaround.  to make your sblive work, 'sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1'08:54
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glickthose are the errors i get08:54
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ceeKay taotime : thanks. if it really comes down to it i will run a wire across the entire house while i do it (i keep an extra long one around for times like that)... i was just hoping i would be able to find a livecd with WPA and ndiswrapper support08:55
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tuesday23hi08:55
MagicFab_Mtltuesday23: welc08:55
ui!breezy08:55
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:55
glickcan anyone help me out?08:55
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tuesday23hi MagicFab_Mtl08:55
ozwhat about playing dvd's in Breezy?08:55
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Myrtti/me spanks xfelon`gone08:56
Tidusoz: the library you might not have is libdvdcss208:56
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ozI tried finding that with synaptic and it is not there08:56
glick/var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb08:56
glickthats causing problems08:56
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crimsunglick: remove it temporarily08:56
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Tidusoz: maybe it's just libdvdcss, idk08:56
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taotimeceeKay : try this anyone of the floppies based linux will do. and then go online  by a modem connection download the necessary modules etc. and then go on with it08:56
Tidusand of course it'll be in the universe repo08:56
crimsunglick: known issues if you have the 2.5.3 versions installed08:57
ozI will look08:57
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VoXi did an update on my amd64 about 12 hours ago, and some package that was updated has majorly broken the nvidia packages, do the point that i'm having serrious issues even /removing/ the package so i can re-install it. how would i find out which package it was, and who do i report it to?08:57
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ceeKaytaotime i'm definitely not that desperate.. nicely (over)engineered solution though :)08:58
tuesday23i dont know if i should update. i use linux for a week now and i dont know much about it. i dont want to destroy anything again :)08:58
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budluvaany xvid howto's for breezy?08:58
ozno all they have libdvdread-3 avaiable08:58
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crimsunoz: you need to use the testing repo of debian-marillat to get libdvdcss208:58
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Java_The_Huttdoes anyone knows how to use GPRS connection through bluetooth ?08:58
=== carthik read that as dv-dread :)
Tidusoz: to play commercial DVDs, you need libdvdcss08:59
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ozyou got me on that one I am new at this unix/linux stuff08:59
MagicFab_Mtloz: look in the wiki for Restricted Formats08:59
crimsunoz: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:59
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Madpilot!tell cz about restricted08:59
Tidus!tell oz about restricted08:59
DShepherdubuntu = the brown sugar....so sweet, so addictive, so .... so....brown.....ah08:59
ozwiki is on the internet right?08:59
airmikeylol08:59
MagicFab_Mtloz: yes, it's a web site09:00
bitbucketx.x09:00
Madpilotcz: yes, see the msg ubotu just sent you09:00
freddyomg i dont know how to install java enviroment.....i ended up installing some stuff called NetBEans.....wtf09:00
ozsoory I said I waqs new at this!!!09:00
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ozand I type really bad as well09:00
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SeverianOn test machines where I have been running Breezy Badger Colony releases, I assume that if I apply all updates that it will be the same as if I reinstalled 5.10.  Is that correct?09:00
MagicFab_Mtlite all09:00
seethru!tell seethru w32codecs09:00
crimsunseethru: yes09:00
seethrubah09:01
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seethruthis is fun, no w32codecs despite hoary-backports being enabled....now I'm regretting doing a fresh install lol09:01
lhbfreddy: you installed the sdk, the jre and netbeans ide09:01
ui!breezy09:01
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:01
ishitthe repository adress given in unbuntuguide are all dried up. Can anyone giv me new repositories09:02
crimsunseethru: use debian-marillat's etch repo.09:02
ozI'll try now be back09:02
tristanmike!tell ishit about repos09:02
seethrucrimsun: ty09:02
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taotimeceeKay : i m basically a mechanical engineer that's how i think. come to think of it my laptop was 28.00 US Dollars and had no escape key i installed linux and guess what worked vi editor with that.09:03
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airmikeyok ive got libdvdcss2 and libdvdread installed...dvd still not playing09:03
freddyif i want to add java to /usr/bin to make it avaliable in my $PATH, how can i go about doing this?09:03
keffynd!tell keffynd about repos09:04
crimsunfreddy: use java-package09:04
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ceeKaytaotime : i live with an ME so i totally understand now09:04
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lhb!java09:04
ubotujavadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java09:04
keffyndhow can I tell waht version I have?09:05
freddyi have it installed...i just wanna know how to make a symbolic link to /usr/bin to make it avaliable in my $PATH09:05
Drakesonhow can I setup mediawiki? (apt-get installed it, now I have the config page, but don't know what to put in the database user/pass fields)09:05
keffyndLinux office 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux09:05
DShepherdkeffynd: /etc/issue09:05
keffyndDShepherd --> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l09:05
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khermansIf you are in the Massachusetts area, our FTP server will be pumping out Breezy all night long -- most of them are almost done downloading09:06
khermansftp://ftp.umasslug.org/iso/Ubuntu/Breezy/09:06
keffyndDShepherd am I im need of upgrading?09:06
keffyndI am not sure when the CD I have was ISO'd09:06
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DShepherdkeffynd: /topic09:06
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Madpilotwow, I'm all the way up to 2% of the Breezy Install ISO via BT... after just over 1 hour of d/l... huh...09:07
vengefulsucks to be you hehe09:07
Syrusshuh?09:07
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jsgotangcoheh09:07
SyrussI was downloading the torrent at 3MB/sec a few days ago09:07
DShepherdkeffynd: you got 5.10 no need to upgrade09:07
keffyndok so this ver I have is the latest :)09:07
Madpilotkhermans: I'm on the other side of the continent and in another country, but I might take you up on that :)09:07
Syrussthat's right, megabytes09:07
Syruss:p09:07
Syrussbbl09:07
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freddyomg how do i make a smybolic link?09:07
freddy:*09:07
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tgafreddy: man ln09:08
bjvthis ubuntu live cd of mine had drivers for one of my printers, how can i get those drivers for another linux box?09:08
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GTroy_why does usb 1.0 transfer as fast as windows usb 2.0?09:08
bjvi dont see anything on ubuntulinux.org09:08
taotimeanybody got some time to explain and experiment xmms vs realplayer09:08
freddytga, been there done that :( . No manual entry for ln09:08
freddySee 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.09:08
funkyHatGTroy_, because linux is better than windows09:08
wrabbit01anybody know which drivers I should be installing for graphics on the IBM thinkpad t20? nVidia or ATI09:08
vengefulno updates overnight..that mean we are done..or is there gonna be one huge update later?09:08
funkyHat:D :P09:09
Madpilotbjv: have a look here: http://www.linuxprinting.org09:09
bjvtaotime: what? ive got xmms and rp 10 installed. what about them?09:09
tgafreddy: funny, you're missing some man pages then09:09
GTroy_but how the hell does it do it?09:09
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tgafreddy: the short deal is: ln -s SOURCE DESTINATION09:09
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bjvMadpilot: but the ubuntu live CD *has* the drivers.09:09
bootylicious_twihi09:09
bjvso where are these ubuntu compiled/functional drivers at?09:09
funkyHatGTroy_, in all honesty, it's more likely a case of windows just _not_ doing it09:09
taotimebjv : good friend, try this for me , man i have ubuntu installed since the last week, i m trying to listen to some songs on the internet the website is www.raaga.com/hindi/artists/09:09
Madpilotbjv: packages.ubuntu.com is probably a good place to look09:09
GTroy_gotcha funkyhat09:09
tgaGTroy_: usb 2 should be about 10 times faster than usb 1 iirc09:10
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bootylicious_twiyou can check out my blog.... http://markceleste.blogspot.com09:10
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vengefulwrabbit01, i think they use the intel 915 ones?09:10
tgabootylicious_twi: why would we want to do that?09:10
taotimebjv : now neither my xmms rhythmbox or realplayer10  are working for that songs09:10
ceeKaytaotime : looks like the current version of knoppix has both.. just in case you ever wondered09:10
vengefulwhich no official drivers exist yet for linux..but ubuntu seems to work so dont touch it :-P09:10
freddytga, after doing that i get this freddy@lappy:/usr/bin$ file java09:10
freddyjava: broken symbolic link to `java'09:10
freddy:(09:10
freddyit does it...but not correctly09:10
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HiddenFlyanyone here have www.lastcallpoker.com working? i get only a blank page when trying to enter the lobby :/09:11
taotimeceekay : it's not about having both, it's about proving to my wife that she can listen to music from my/our country in linux.09:11
tgafreddy: what did you symlink exactly?09:11
taotimeceeKay : u know sort of wanna show them linux09:11
bootylicious_twihelllllllllooooooooooooo09:11
bjvtaotime: The page cannot be found09:11
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glickhmm i cant instally python-wxversion09:12
freddytga, ln -s java /usr/bin09:12
ceeKayheh09:12
bootylicious_twii dont know what you,ve been saying!!!09:12
bootylicious_twihahhahahhaha09:12
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tgafreddy: ln -s SOURCE DESTINATION09:12
bootylicious_twidi ko alam kung paano gamitin itong linux09:12
tgafreddy: your command makes /usr/bin a symlink to ./java09:12
taotimebjv : since u have gone thru the trouble try one more time www.raaga.com click on hindi click on artists click on any artists select all songs and try to play it.  watchout for the popups though09:12
bootylicious_twidi ako makapagsave sa aking disktz09:12
tgabootylicious_twi: English or else09:13
bjvrtaotime: i cut off the "www." part, im loading       aaga.com/channels/hindi/   as we speak09:13
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bootylicious_twitagalog! bulokkkkk!!!!09:13
bjvim certain it will play. :p09:13
tga!tagalog09:13
ubotuhmm... tagalog is spoken in #ubuntu-ph09:13
bjv*raaga     ;\09:13
bootylicious_twisure?????09:13
funkyHat:S tagalog?09:13
bootylicious_twiyeah im tagalog you know men09:13
bootylicious_twiyeah... in philippines09:14
keffyndUbuntu, odd name, awesome OS09:14
ceeKayfreddy : i hate making symlinks- i always do the wrong one first... its like plugging in USB devices... you ALWAYS plug it in the wrong way first, then turn it over, then realize that you were plugging it in the right way the first time it just seemed like the wrong way but it was really just at the wrong angle09:14
jgrievesalright well the CD is good to go :)09:14
bootylicious_twihuh?09:14
jgrievesceeKay LOL I just was telling my boss that09:14
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bootylicious_twii cant understand waht is your topiczzzz09:14
freddytga, no..i found why....i was having problems with perms.....and btw...i was doing the sym link from the java directory....thats why i said java instead of /usr/bin/jse/bin/java /usr/bin/09:14
bootylicious_twihelloooo09:14
airmikeywhat else do i need besides libdvdcss209:14
bootylicious_twihoy cge na bah... wala ko kasabot09:14
airmikeyto play dvds09:14
gefbalshello gud day, anyhelp with UDI mount volume problem on floppy?09:15
freddyceeKay, lol09:15
freddyi see09:15
tgabootylicious_twi: #ubuntu-ph, really09:15
bootylicious_twiako floppy09:15
bootylicious_twihehhehehehehhe09:15
uio.O09:15
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bootylicious_twiooooo ka dyan/!09:15
aftertaf!ph09:15
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog09:15
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athlon!de09:15
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe09:15
gefbalstagalog puti itlog09:16
[nrx] hi :)09:16
bootylicious_twitalaga?09:16
bitbuckethttp://www.2600.com/offthehook/2005/1005.html09:16
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gefbalshello gud day, anyhelp with UDI mount volume problem on floppy?09:16
bootylicious_twiikaw bay tagalog? tga san ka pla?09:16
[nrx] can anyone help me with setting up a webcam in ubuntu?09:16
Madpilotbootylicious_twi: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog and please stop spamming this channel!09:16
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timingOkay i know when i ask a question here, it's forgotten in about ten minutes, it's a question related to udev, does someone know an irc channel with udev nerds?09:17
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taotimenrx : is the webcam attached to the computer via usb09:17
tristanmikebootylicious_twi, you've been asked, english in here please or "/join #ubuntu-ph" for hlep09:17
[nrx] taotime, yes09:17
taotimenrx : can u c the name/make/model in the startup09:17
[nrx] well, i plugged it in after boot09:18
jmworxAny clue as to why acrobat reader segfaults on breezy?09:18
[nrx] came up in /var/log/message saying it found a full speed usb device09:18
tgajmworx: use xpdf :)09:18
tgajmworx: or the gnome thing09:18
funkyHatthe gnome thing is pretty crap tbh09:18
tgaxpdf works for me09:18
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taotimenrx : i had to say this we in linux do not reboot.. but do it just once, in lieu of a better explanation : listen to an old man who has wasted/experimented several hours on linux09:19
tgaI doubt that will help him09:19
tgahe probably needs a driver09:19
tga..that doesn't exist..09:19
[nrx] okay09:19
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[nrx] will you be here when i get back? ;p09:19
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taotimenrx : first go to the website for linux database and supported hardware see if ur camera is there... then we can go ahead and reboot09:20
carthiktiming, what is the question? I have played around with udev recently09:20
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wrabbitAnybody know if there's an easy way to install via graphics drivers?  Is it completely seperate to nvidia and ati?09:21
glickyeah dist-upgrade foobared my system09:21
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tgaglick: in what way09:21
jmworxtga: xpdf doesn't edit documents and so far, I've seen no Linux pdf viewer that can handle all pdf documents I give it.09:21
aztekdidn't breezy add a WPA utility09:21
vengefulwrabbit, are you sure you have a via chipset09:21
glicktga, firstly all my icons in gnome like my file icons have been replaced with unknowns09:21
tgaI had to alternate between dist-upgrade and dpkg --configure -f when upgrading09:21
tgaglick: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:21
wrabbitvengeful.. I'm on an IBM thinkpad t20 laptop.  I'm pretty sure it's VIA.09:22
vengefulim pretty sure its intel09:22
vengefulyour laptop though..so i guess you know it better ;-)09:22
KenSentMeaztek:  search the wiki for wpa, there is a howto about the subject09:22
tgajmworx: hmm.. you do need Acrobat for form editing09:22
wrabbitvengeful, it's new so no... I don't :P09:22
vengefulok you bought it....it should of said the specs on it :-)09:23
gefbalshello gud day, anyhelp with UDI mount volume problem on floppy?09:23
wrabbitvengeful: From what I've seen on the net, the graphics chip is  an S3 savage09:23
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aftertafto remove a chroot, just need to delete the directory and remove any other mount references?09:23
glicki cant install ubuntu-desktop09:23
jmworxtga: yes. I tend to use mostly xpdf and gv, but sometimes I actually need acroread. I don't understand why it segfaults on breezy (worked on hoary).09:23
glickthere is a problem09:23
taotimebjv : u still there did u try09:23
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wrabbitvengeful, it was second hand09:23
glickit tells me to use apt-get install -f09:23
glickwhen i do it it says there is a problem09:23
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glickso my installation is foobared09:23
crimsunglick: did you remove that python package?09:24
glickcrimsun, yes09:24
tgajmworx: you could try strace on it, maybe it's missing something.. I'm afraid I can't help much09:24
vengefulthen again maybe not...its abit old for intel09:24
aftertafglick:  you pasted the pb anywhere?09:24
jcoxonmorning everyone09:24
crimsunglick: so where is it stuck now?09:24
Severianwrabbit, I am on an A20.  IBM used Intel chipsets at that time.  Maybe they changed to VIA, but not in the timeframe of the T20.09:24
crimsunaftertaf: umount those mounts first09:25
wrabbitSeverian.  Thanks.  Not sure why some sites say it's VIA09:25
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glickcrimsun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/QOLrsN39.htmlhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/QOLrsN39.html09:25
aftertafcrimsun:  oki ;) thx :)09:25
glickcrimsun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/QOLrsN39.html09:25
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wrabbitSeverian,  Do you have ubuntu installed?09:25
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Severianwrabbit, My A20 is still running Hoary.  I have Breezy on a couple of 845 based systems09:26
C-Keenmoin :-)09:26
crimsunglick: you didn't remove the package09:26
tgaSeverian: lspci |grep AGP09:26
ishitlatest repos for ubuntu09:26
ishitanyone??09:26
aftertafglick:  a workariund ;)09:27
crimsunglick: sudo dpkg -P wxpython2.5.309:27
wrabbitSeverian, did you install nvidia gfx or ati? or is there something else? I'm new to this as you can tell09:27
tristanmike!tell ishit about repos09:27
crimsunishit: topic?09:27
jmworxtga: it seems to look for libstdc++, do an munman and then segfaults and dies09:27
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aftertafcrimsun:  dpkg -P ?09:27
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crimsunaftertaf: dpkg is the underlying tool.09:27
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glickcrimsun, i get error: dependancy problems  prevent removal of wxpython2.5.309:27
aftertafyeah, but the -P ???09:27
Severiantga, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility09:27
dreamstarhi guys09:28
crimsunglick: what packages?09:28
tgaumm09:28
aftertafglick:  type this:    dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb09:28
dreamstarcan i ask u an information?09:28
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aftertaf*sudo :)09:28
tgaSeverian: uh, wrong nick  :)09:28
crimsunno, remove anything having to do with wxwidgets2.5.309:28
glickcrimsun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/zGeXds35.html09:28
tgawrabbit: lspci |grep AGP to see what video chipset you have09:28
Discipuluswoo!09:29
Severianwrabbit, I just let Ubuntu use whatever video module it installed by default.  It is an ATI chip, and the defaults were fine.09:29
Discipulusverizon DSL is SWEET!09:29
aftertafcrimsun:  maybe he cant cos system is not in a stable state, installs pending....09:29
JayPeeedid anyone try to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?09:29
tgaJayPeee: no09:29
crimsunaftertaf: dpkg doesn't care09:29
wrabbittga, Severian .. thanks.09:29
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dreamstarguys i had the 5.10 preview so now that the 5.10 final is out which repository should i choose?09:29
yapycckyhello everyone09:29
aftertafdreamstar:  breezy ones.09:29
aftertaf!repos09:29
ubotu[sources]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)09:29
yapycckywho can help me to set up my video card?09:29
crimsunglick: sudo dpkg -P libwxgtk2.5.3-python wxpython2.5.309:29
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yapycckyi've a nvidia geforce fx 65009:30
yapyccky*565009:30
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aftertafok crimsun ;)09:30
timingcarthik: i want to give the following value to a script of mine: Oct 13 08:57:57 usb-bak kernel: usb 4-4.6: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 1209:30
yapycckyi've already installed a vndia-glx09:30
timingcarthik: the 4-4.609:30
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timingcarthik: i used %d but it gives me 1.0.0.009:30
glickaftertaf, that seemed to make things work09:30
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glickwhat did that do?09:30
mal1how do I change the default editor in Ubuntu from Nano to vim?09:30
Config|workJust a question - I'm trying to reinstall firefox, but it gives me: it cannot be downloaded (internet connection is ok) - what am I doing wrong?09:31
[nrx] taotime,09:31
wrabbittga, it says that my gfx controller is "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV "09:31
wrabbitI'm such a newbie09:31
wrabbitNo idea what that is09:31
dreamstaraftertaf: yep but i changed them as suggested on the wiki for the preview version, now i think i should change them again with the new one, right?09:31
warpforgemal1: how do you expect to run VIM if you can't figure out how to make it the default editor?09:31
Config|workI did a sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox09:31
glickaftertaf, what did that line do?09:31
mal1warpforge: I use it all the time09:31
mal1where does ubuntu set the EDITOR environment variable09:32
florian___to upgrade from 5.10 PR to 5.10 final  - just do an pgrade?09:32
dreamstarflorian: yep09:32
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florian___k09:32
warpforgemal1: I think your question should be where does your SHELL set the editor variable.09:32
lightstarflorian___ : just do apt-get upgrade09:32
florian___k, thanx09:32
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yapycckybut can anyone give me an advise?09:32
warpforgemal1: I'm assuming you use BASH?09:32
wrabbittga, oh wait.. it says..  Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge09:32
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mal1yea09:32
wrabbitI'm gonna install ATI and see how that goes09:33
Skidhmm, all the dvd downloads 403?09:33
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wrabbitif my laptop breaks.. it wasn't meant to be09:33
dreamstarah ok so i can use the repository i used for the 5.10pre? is not a prob?09:33
Skidi wanted to mirror em09:33
[nrx] taotime, are you still there?09:33
taotimenrx : yep what happened did it work09:33
mal1it defaults to nano so obviously it has to be set somewhere in some configuration file09:33
loogato J-Pilot users here, I'm just about to upgrade to breezy and i want to save my jpilot files as backup. Where are they stored?09:33
tgawrabbit: I'm afraid the ATI will only help if you have an ATI chipset09:33
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[nrx] it's come back with errors09:34
tgamal1: grep -r nano / :)09:34
ishithow do i instal java09:34
tgaor grep -r EDITOR /etc or something09:34
[nrx] usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0out09:34
[nrx] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 2, error -11009:34
[nrx] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 309:34
[nrx] usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0out09:34
[nrx] usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0out09:34
tga!java09:34
[nrx] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 3, error -11009:34
ubotu[javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java09:34
[nrx] :/09:34
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wrabbittga :( So I need which drivers? Not exaclty sure which ones to get09:34
tristanmike!tell [nrx]  about pastebin09:34
wrabbitIs there such a thing as intel gfx drivers?09:34
aftertafwrabbit:  i830... ec yes.09:35
[nrx] ;p09:35
gleesondI'm moving my file off of dvd that I used to back up my system but when I move them to my home dir, they are recusively read only is there a way to change this default?09:35
Severianwrabbit, sure.09:35
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gefbalshello gud day, anyhelp with UDI mount volume problem on floppy?09:35
tgawrabbit: are you getting no video or do you want acceleration?09:36
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Severianwrabbit, but the T20 does not have an Intel video chip.  I am not sure what it has, but it is not Intel.  Probably ATI.09:36
wrabbittga, it's very boggy09:36
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aftertafwrabbit:  i have i810 and works fine.09:36
wrabbittga, just need acceleration09:36
[nrx] taotime, any ideas?09:36
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sanxiynDoes Ubuntu have multiple bug tracking system?09:36
aftertafgleesond:  chmod?09:36
tgawrabbit: that might be tricky09:36
wrabbitI know09:36
tgasanxiyn: just bugzilla.ubuntu.com09:36
wrabbit:(09:36
sanxiyntga: What is Malone?09:37
carthiktiming,use %k for kernel name?09:37
tgasanxiyn: no idea09:37
florian___is there a graphical interface to manage iptables?09:37
cevizogluis there a way to convert ext2 to ext3 and still keep the data?09:37
warpforgeyes09:37
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sanxiyntga: Then why is it mentioned in some of Ubuntu package changelog?09:37
warpforgemount it as ext309:37
tgasanxiyn: can you provide more context?09:37
ssammalone is part of launchpad, the new bug tracking thing09:38
warpforgeext3 and ext2 are exactly the same when properly unmounted09:38
sanxiynssam: Oh, so there *is* such a thing.09:38
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wrabbitis there a way to check if any gfx drivers are actually installed?09:38
tgahttp://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm#_two2three09:38
sanxiyntga, ssam: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/a_bad_taste_in_the_mouth_detailed_ubuntu_patch_review-2005-10-13-03-57.html09:38
budluvawhats the difference between dvd-r and09:38
wrabbitor which gfx drivers are installed09:38
budluvawhats the difference between dvd-r and +r?09:38
ssamall breezy apps have extra items in the help menu that like to launchpad09:38
tgawarpforge: not true, ext2 has no journal or anything09:38
carthiktiming, what exactly are you trying to do - mount diff usb drives to different locations under /media/* ?09:38
tgacevizoglu: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm#_two2three09:38
sanxiynssam: It's the first time I heard about it, although I follow debian-devel.09:38
warpforgetga: ext3's journal goes away when unmounted properly09:38
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damo21whats the diff between the iso and the livecd09:39
ssamsanxiyn, its ubuntu not debian09:39
jas_Hello all I am back to ask more questions hehe09:39
sanxiynssam: If Ubuntu *is* committed to contributing back to Debian, mentioning some "secret" BTS in patch changelog is not a good way.09:39
sanxiynssam: Or, Ubuntu doesn't care about Debian?09:39
cevizoglutga, warpforge: thx09:39
warpforgethe difference btw. ext2 and ext3 is only while mounted or not-unmounted09:39
wrabbitdamo21, live cd is booted at startup without install09:39
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glickdamn09:39
glickim still havin problems09:39
crimsunsanxiyn: what?09:39
sanxiynssam: AFAICT, this was never communicated to Debian, and some Debian developers are bepuzzled with Ubuntu patch collection.09:40
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glicknow its bitchin about libofox09:40
damo21wrabbit, whats the advantage for that?09:40
jas_Does anyone know if Limewire works on Ubuntu???09:40
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sanxiyncrimsun: What? Which part of my words you don't understand?09:40
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warpforgeThe diff. btw. DVD-R and DVD+R is whether the drive can write the media type to the disk. DVD-R (I think) is the one that forces the media type to be DVD-R. It could be the other way around.09:40
wrabbitdamo21, try before you buy approach09:40
jmworxtga: OK, solved the problem. Installed gcc-3.3 (and corresponding libstdc++) and it works09:40
ssamsanxiyn, i wish everybody could just be friends09:40
[nrx] can anyone help me with getting a webcam working on ubuntu?09:40
jas_Does anyone know if Limewire works on Ubuntu???09:41
damo21wrabbit: does the livecd still have a nice install script09:41
sanxiynssam: Indeed, but this is a bad practice from Ubuntu, as far as I can tell.09:41
Chousukejas_: it should09:41
warpforgeLimewire works on ubuntu09:41
crimsunsanxiyn: where do you get off saying Ubuntu doesn't care about Debian?09:41
jas_Okay thank you09:41
wrabbitdamo21, don't think so09:41
xukunhow can I resume download with wget. it just stoped at 68%09:41
ssamsanxiyn, shuttleworth does not want new users the have to fight with bugzilla09:41
sanxiyncrimsun: I stated the fact: some of Ubuntu patches, which is collected http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/09:41
mustard5xukun, I think wget resumes itself09:41
ssamsanxiyn, i think that is a fair goal09:41
sanxiyn(Against their Debian counterpart)09:41
paradonxukun: -c09:41
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sanxiynssam: Oh sure. So just announce about Lanuchpad.09:42
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sanxiynOr whatever.09:42
glickdamn!09:42
xukunthanks guys09:42
glickim gonna have to back up my stuff and completely reinstall!09:42
ssamsanxiyn, launchpad is known about09:42
Deanodriverare there DVD images of breezy final yet?09:42
glickthis blows!09:42
tgajmworx: w00t, three cheers for strace :)09:42
crimsunsanxiyn: that's MOM, which we KNOW is generating bad patches. See the topic in #ubuntu-devel09:42
sanxiynssam: Oh, surely then there was communication problem.09:42
damo21so if u just wanted to install breezy on to lots of machines, better to not use livecd?09:42
sanxiyncrimsun: Well, I wasn't talking about that.09:42
jas_Chousuke How do I install it09:42
glickim a little disappointed09:42
Chousukejas_: dunno.09:43
glickcause upgrading was sposed to be so easy09:43
aftertafglick:  why is that?09:43
ssamsanxiyn, maybe09:43
sanxiyncrimsun: I was talking about some Ubuntu package changelog referring to "Malone", where most Debian developers have no idea what the hell it is.09:43
crimsunsanxiyn: then what are you talking about, the ones that joey mentioned?09:43
Chousukeglick: what happened?09:43
Gorgonzolawhat's the best way to find where a packages files are installed - eg, i d/led an RPM used alien -i <packagename>.rpm to convert/install it... now where the hell are the files? :)09:43
aftertafwhy reinstall?09:43
jas_Chousuke Your not help Hehe :P09:43
Burgundaviasanxiyn, LP is not free yet, so the announcments will come when various bits are made free (likely in the next little while)09:43
Chousukejas_: it's Java.09:43
jas_Can anyone tell me how exactly I install Limewire?09:43
crimsunwhiskey. tango. foxtrot.09:43
sanxiynBurgundavia: Hope that's true.09:43
aftertafglick:  why do you HAVE to reinstall?09:43
glickChousuke, it didnt work well for me09:43
aftertafglick:  type this:    dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb09:43
aftertafdid you try that glick ?09:43
Deanodriverdoes anyone know where the DVD image torrents for Breezy final are located? I've looked around, but can only find the CD's09:43
crimsunDebian Developers who don't know that a search engine exists to find out what Malone is don't deserve to be DDs.09:44
glickaftertaf, that worked09:44
aftertafDeanodriver:  maybe not ready yet?09:44
sanxiynBurgundavia: So, to summarize,09:44
cevizoglucrimsun, romeo. juliet. hotel.09:44
aftertafglick:  ok, so what next?09:44
sanxiyncrimsun: Hahaha09:44
Skidswitch.ch mirrors the dvd images09:44
Deanodriverok then, fair enough09:44
Burgundaviasanxiyn, it is always then intention to free bits of LP09:44
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MojOrowcan somone explain how to install a firewall on ubuntu09:44
glickhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/rPRdRC14.html09:44
jas_Can anyone tell me how exactly I install Limewire?09:44
glicknow i get that09:44
sanxiynBreezy ships with some tool making it easy for users to report bug (I assume?)09:44
Skid!tell MojOrow about firestarter09:44
Skidbleh09:45
Burgundaviasanxiyn, yes, into LP09:45
sanxiynWhich uses Malone, which is part of Launchpad,09:45
SkidMojOrow: search the forums for firestarter09:45
Skidor the wiki :)09:45
sanxiynwhich is not Ubuntu bugzilla,09:45
[nrx] needing some help getting a webcam running in ubuntu please folks :/09:45
Burgundaviasanxiyn, bugzilla is likely to die very shortly09:45
MojOrowdoes it do outbound controll?09:45
aftertafglick:  ok... pkg now /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_1%3a0.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb09:45
sanxiynBurgundavia: Oh, interesting.09:45
aftertafglick:  run same command but with that package ;)09:45
sanxiynSo there was definitely a communication problem, I think.09:45
jas_Can anyone tell me how exactly I install Limewire?09:45
Burgundaviasanxiyn, it has always been the plan, but nothing in formalized yet09:45
sanxiynThe reason it wasn't communicated, is, because, Lanuchpad is not free.09:45
sanxiynGreat.09:45
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crimsunno.09:46
sanxiynThank you for clarifications.09:46
damo21W00T downloading breezy now at 500kB/s09:46
sanxiyncrimsun: Oh, please correct my misconception.09:46
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timingcarthik: i have a hub, and i want to tell users in which hub a broken usb stick is09:46
glickaftertaf, what do you mean?09:46
Burgundaviasanxiyn, I understand Malone and Rosetta are expecting to be freed within the very near future, before the end of year at least09:46
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MojOrow?09:46
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mustard5hi dbug09:46
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timingcarthik: and that 4-4.5 number is unique09:46
aftertafglick:  type this:    dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_1%3a0.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb09:46
crimsunlook, if I'm forced to use Debian's BTS, and since my base packages come from Debian, and I provide dpatches, why can't the Debian maintainer find out what I'm referring to?09:47
maxbernwhat is "failed to run users-admin: Child Terminated with 162 status"09:47
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OrbordeThat magical hour of Ubuntu Breezy's release has arrived! Hurray!09:47
jas_Can anyone tell me how exactly I install Limewire?09:47
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Gorgonzolawhat's the best way to find where a package has installed it's  files -- eg, i d/led an RPM and used alien -i <packagename>.rpm to convert/install it... now where are the files?09:47
[nrx] needing some help getting a webcam running in ubuntu please folks :/09:47
aftertafcrimsun:  comms problems?09:47
sanxiyncrimsun: Huh?09:47
maxberni add users09:47
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vengefulisnt this abit off topic?09:47
crimsunvengeful: yes09:48
glicki gotta take a shower an get ready for bed09:48
OrbordeGorgonzola: Search for it in Synaptic, if you converted it to deb and installed it, and then right-click on it, go Properties, and then the "installed files" tab.09:48
crimsunsanxiyn: I'll be happy to rant about it in -offtopic09:48
bjvOrborde: That magical hour of Ubuntu Breezy's release has arrived! Hurray!09:48
bjvorly?09:48
GorgonzolaOrborde, thanks mate, will try it09:48
sanxiyncrimsun: #ubuntu-offtopic?09:48
crimsunyes09:48
sanxiynJoined.09:48
Orbordebjv: What?09:49
xukunanybody installed the new breezy?09:49
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bjv5.10 being released.09:49
maxbernwhat is "failed to run users-admin: Child Terminated with 162 status" when i add user09:49
vengefuli 80% dont care and 20% wanna see a fight09:49
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mustard5maxbern probably wrong password given09:49
Orbordemaxbern: Try googling return codes?09:49
wrabbitaftertaf, ... you there?09:49
[nrx] can someone please help me getting a webcam running?09:49
wrabbitaftertaf, i830?09:49
DShepherddoes breezy ship with firefox 1.0/7 or 1.5 beta 2?09:49
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Orborde[nrx] : That is kind of everyone's least favorite problem to tackle, I think.09:49
maxbernwhat does it means Orborde09:50
crimsunjas_: you need a JRE/JDK, then download the limewire binary, then run it09:50
sanxiynDShepherd: 1.0.7.09:50
SeverianDShepherd, 10.709:50
[nrx] Orborde, take it you don't want to help then? :/09:50
maxbernwrong pass? i am just making a user09:50
Orbordemaxbern: I don't know, but perhaps it's a standard error code or something. I don't know quite how Linux works in that regard.09:50
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maxbernhmmm09:50
maxbernim using ubuntu 5.0409:50
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SeverianDShepherd, 1.0.7, of couse, but sanxiyn beat me anyway09:50
mustard5did you use sudo to make the user maxbern ?09:51
Orborde[nrx] : It means that that is one of the hardest problems known to Linuxkind AFAIK. Try the forums.09:51
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DShepherdsanxiyn: ok. Can I download the beta version via synaptic09:51
maxbernmustard5,  no09:51
DShepherd?09:51
maxberni used Gnome09:51
sanxiynDShepherd: I don't think so.09:51
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maxbernmustard5,  how do we used sudo?09:51
DShepherdsanxiyn: how can I get my hands on the beta version for breezy09:51
lalahhi09:51
DShepherd?09:51
mustard5does the user group load up when you select it maxbern ?09:51
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mustard5or does it ask for a password?09:52
mustard5I'm thinking you don't have sudo access at all, maxbern09:52
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maxbernwhen i restard the pc the two username was displayed09:52
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mustard5sudo is the 'superuser' command...you use it to execute things as root09:53
maxbernim the owner mustard509:53
aftertafwrabbit:  yep. in xorg.conf. onboard intex gfx card09:53
maxberni make a user for others09:53
DShepherdDoes anyone know how can I get my hands on the beta version for firefox for  breezy09:53
maxberntell me how to use sudo i will try09:53
DShepherdof firefox*09:53
maxbernadding new user09:53
mustard5maxbern type cat /etc/sudoers in terminal and paste in #flood09:53
aftertaf!sudo09:53
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:53
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wrabbitaftertaf, any easy way to install em?09:54
maxbernw809:54
aftertafwrabbit:  installed by default with worg i think09:54
aftertafxorg even ;)09:54
wrabbitand I should have xorg installed09:55
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wrabbitbe gentle.. I'm a baby when it comes to this stuff09:55
aftertaflol :)09:55
mustard5!tell maxbern about sudo09:55
maxberndone mustard509:55
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aftertafwrabbit:  no pbs ;)... xorg is your graphic server09:55
delmonicohappy release day everyone :)09:56
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timingHey how do i check for new hardware?09:56
wrabbitaftertaf, So it's already installed then.  Why is every thing so boggy?09:56
Severiandelmonico, and the same to you.  cheers09:56
wrabbiteven Win2k was faster than this09:56
damo21w00t so tired waiting for breezy now i can play with it09:56
mustard5so you are using account 'admin' atm maxbern ?09:57
damo2150% dl09:57
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Shun_Goukigood morning ubuntu community!09:58
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gleesondwhat file do I need to put the win32codecs to make the music programs work09:58
ChousukeHmm.09:58
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wrabbitaftertaf, could just be the 700mhz.09:59
aftertafwrabbit:  what is your gfx card?09:59
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wrabbitaftertaf, .. it's on the laptop. I've been trying to work that out09:59
tristanmike!tell gleesond about mp309:59
Shin_Goukigoooood moring community09:59
Shin_Goukihi nalioth :)09:59
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aftertafwrabbit:  type lspci, what do you see?   (pastebin)09:59
Shin_Goukii need a torrent for a 5.10 DVD, were may i get it?09:59
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loogaI am currently on Hoary. Before I upgrade, I want to get things back the way things were before--- this means, repos are back to default, programs are back to default, all programs installed are uninstalled. How do i do so?10:00
wrabbitaftertaf,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74944 <-- I paniced10:00
loogaall programs THAT I installed are uninstalled.10:00
crimsunlooga: make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed and that you have only Ubuntu repos in your sources.list.10:00
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ChousukeI wonder if my university hosts an Ubuntu mirror too. They host ftp.fi.debian.org repos, and because I'm connected to the internet through their network, that mirror is nice and *fast*. :)10:00
doogluslooga: use "debfoster" to get rid of the extra stuff you installed10:00
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loogadooglus: all the stuff I installed will be removed or only "Foster" programs (whatever foster means)?10:01
MadpilotChousuke: if they don't, contact your Ops people and get the mirror set up!10:01
doogluslooga: debfoster will ask you a bunch of questions about what you want and what you don't.10:01
loogadooglus:  do i do debfoster before or after upgrade?10:02
aftertafwrabbit:  panic happens, dont worry :)10:02
Shin_Goukiahhhh why is the 5.10 DVD image still RC..?10:02
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doogluslooga: if you tell it you want "ubuntu-desktop" first, by running "debfoster ubuntu-desktop", then you can answer 'p' (for 'purge') to everything else10:02
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doogluslooga: (except perhaps you need ubuntu-base as well - so add that to the end of the debfoster command: "sudo debfoster ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-base"10:02
wrabbitaftertaf, So can you make anything of that?10:03
aftertafwrabbit:  gfx card is:  VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11)10:03
loogadooglus: so running "sudo debfoster ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-base" will remove ALL programs and ALL my personal files (e.g. my documents and pics in home directory), is this correct?10:03
wrabbitaftertaf, Yep.... and S3 is Via10:03
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wrabbitaftertaf.. which means.  I have no idea what I'm doing10:03
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kYotiKis dist-upgrade working ok?10:04
aftertafS3 savage...10:04
kYotiKfor 5.1010:04
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doogluslooga: no, it's not.10:06
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aftertafwrabbit:  http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man4/savage.4.html10:07
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doogluslooga: it will prompt you about all the packages you installed, asking if you want to keep them or not.  it won't ask about the packages that came with hoary10:07
nomikehi10:07
wrabbitlol aftertaf .... I'm on that exact page10:07
doogluslooga: it will leave your home directory alone.  if you want to get rid of all your personal files, remove your user10:07
nomikeis breezy stable now?10:07
wrabbitaftertaf.. thank you but it's not making much sense at the moment.  Still reading10:07
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loogadooglus: what about my personal files (pictures, text documents, downloaded files from Net)? Will they be retained?10:07
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dooglusdeluser     [options]     [--remove-home]      [--home    DIR] 10:07
dooglus[--remove-all-files]  [--backup]  [--backup-to]  user10:07
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loogadooglus: those last 2 lines you wrote; are they for me?10:08
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sw__hello, after installing a libary and compiling/installing a programm the program can't find the libary: rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  <- find finds it but locate doesn't what can i do?10:08
chjchjchjproblem; only 1gb free for ubuntu, and after install it is trying to install 1.4gb of apps...I have shut down and started, it tries again. I want X...but need to choose the packages. Can I make it stop, and let me choose ?10:08
doogluslooga: if you "deluser --remove-all-files <user>" then your files will be deleted, along with your user10:08
doogluslooga: there's no need to do that though10:08
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aftertafwrabbit:  hehe... it gives you the driver name for X10:08
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aftertafand this page http://accessibility.freestandards.org/a11yweb/presentations/kraft-20050126-mag.html has a couple of settings worth examining.10:08
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loogadooglus:  why do you say there's no need to do the del-user command?10:09
aftertafwrabbit:  paste your xorg.conf to pastebin if u want.10:09
doogluslooga: there's no need to delete all your pictures and other documents just to upgrade to breezy...10:09
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zoot_hi everyone: who do i speak to re ubuntu mirrors? i'm in south africa and the za mirrors almost _always_ timeout and i have to use the irish, or other mirror.. kind of defeats the whole purpose of having local mirrors..10:09
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aftertafzoot_:  use just archive.....10:10
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zoot_aftertaf: k, thx10:10
loogadooglus: i understand. How about the debfoster command? Do you think it's a good idea to run that so that I can start off with a clean slate with Breezy? I like clean slates.10:10
nomikeI want to install a packages called pxesconfig which is cotained in the repos at ubuntu.com. But when I try to apt-get intstall it I get a package not found error. May it be that this package is breezyy only?10:10
kYotiKwell i guess breezy was really final yesterday morning huh?10:10
doogluslooga: debfoster before the upgrade - but again, you don't need to do this either, unless you really want to get rid of the extra packages you've installed10:10
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chjchjchjCan anyone tell me how to stop all packages installing, and choose the ones I want?10:11
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christofferSorry, real noob here. Anyone like to help we with a few things?10:11
doogluslooga: if there's a package you wanted in hoary, you'll probably want it in breezy too, so why not leave it installed?10:11
kYotiKthe last updates i got were in the early AM on wednesday10:11
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loogadooglus: will these extra packages work in breezy?10:11
kemikchristoffer:  post your real question instead10:11
wrabbitaftertaf.... gives you the driver name but no driver.  Also... how do I xorg.conf to paste?10:11
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loogadooglus: won't the packages that I got need updating?10:11
doogluslooga: so long as they came from an 'official' repository they should10:11
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dooglusnot sure about backports, etc.10:11
kYotiKif you dist-upgrade everything will *upgrade *10:12
christofferfirst of all I would like to unrar somethjing. I donwloaded winrar for linux but doesn't know what to do after that10:12
kYotiKdont worry its stable now10:12
loogawhat about stuff i got elsewhere, such as realplayer 10 from real.com, or the java uploadr for flickr?10:12
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kYotiKit doesnt format10:12
aftertafwrabbit:  the driver should be installed....    type gedit /etc/X11.xorg.conf, and copy/paste to pastebin10:12
aftertaf!pastebin10:12
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:12
loogakYotiK: are you talking to me?10:12
kYotiKit just updates all your packages10:12
kYotiKlooga, i guess10:12
kYotiKi think about 5 people asking the samething10:12
kemikchristoffer:  not sure about that app.. i usually use unrar-nonfree   (syntax is "unrar e foo.rar" )10:12
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dooglusit will only update if a new version is available...  it's possible that some repositories don't have 'breezy' versions yet.10:13
kemikchristoffer:  and it's used by the archivemanager if you download it so there's a gui aswell10:13
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SillyConeI have just passed the first stage of installation of breezy and after I reboot, I see a text-mode grub shell. What should I do?10:13
onkarshindeI am new developer on an application. While ./configure it says that libgnomeui is not installed on my machine. Synaptic shows that it is installed. Can anyone help?10:13
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kYotiKdooglus: if you have multiple repos in your sources then you will most likely get the upgrade...10:13
dooglusdeluser     [options]     [--remove-home]      [--home    DIR] 10:14
dooglus[--remove-all-files]  [--backup]  [--backup-to]  user10:14
dooglussorry.10:14
sanxiynonkarshinde: Install -dev package too.10:14
doogluswrong button.10:14
crimsunSillyCone: are you sitting at a prompt?10:14
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onkarshindesanxiyn: Are you sure?10:14
christofferwhere do  find that?10:14
sanxiynonkarshinde: ?10:14
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loogadooglus: why'd you write the deluser commands again?10:14
SillyConecrimsun: im using my windows laptop right now10:14
sanxiynonkarshinde: Do you have libgnomeui-dev installed too?10:14
doogluslooga: accidentally...10:15
onkarshindesanxiyn: No I don't have it.10:15
SillyConecrimsun: but the linux machine is right here10:15
sanxiynonkarshinde: So install it.10:15
christofferAre there any good place where I can easily learn thebasics of How-to in linux. I don't know  anything at all really, But pplan to learn10:15
wrabbitaftertaf, There's nothing in that file !! :{10:15
crimsunSillyCone: it should automatically continue after the reboot.10:15
kemikchristoffer:  in universe/multiverse10:15
sanxiynonkarshinde: To compile something using libgnomeui, you need -dev package.10:15
wrabbitaftertaf, No text at all10:15
doogluslooga: I got my irssi control-y to paste mixed up with my gnome-term control-shift-v to paste...10:15
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sanxiynCheck with pkg-config --libs libgnomeui-2.010:15
onkarshindesanxiyn: Thanks10:16
christofferthat doesn't say me anything10:16
SillyConecrimsun: it didnt, it just displays the grub prompt10:16
jinnum..10:16
jinni installed ubuntu recently.. and now i cant access my xp10:16
jinn:(10:16
onkarshindewhere is the official announcement for breezy?10:16
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apokryphosonkarshinde: topic10:16
dooglusis there anywhere I can find the md5 sums for ubuntu binaries?10:16
jinni dont know what's going on, it messed with my boot sequence i think10:16
onkarshindeFound it.10:16
loogadooglus, kYotiK, so let me if i understand, there is no need at  all to run "sudo debfoster ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-base", is this correct? When is running that command helpful or necessary?10:16
bjvchristoffer: what do you want to learn?10:16
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bjvcd /bin10:17
bjvls10:17
jinncan someone help me? @_@10:17
doogluslooga: it's useful for removing packages that you don't need10:17
christofferfirst of all the concept of how to use linux10:17
christofferI only used windows so far10:17
crimsundooglus: use debsums10:17
bjvyou have used dos?10:17
doogluslooga: without debfoster, it's hard to keep track10:17
jinni just lost my windows when i installed linux.. what's going on10:17
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doogluscrimsun: I think debsums checks against a local copy of the sums, which might have been modified locally.10:17
kemikjinn:  what did you do? install to a new partition ?10:18
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doogluscrimsun: I was hoping for a 'trusted' source10:18
jinnyeah10:18
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Madpilotchristoffer: that's a pretty open ended question. Mostly, the desktop is pretty similar...10:18
jinni installed to a separate partition10:18
kemikjinn:  open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l" and paste result on pastebin10:18
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brosiozhi10:18
brosiozanyone could me explain the main difference from apache2 and apache1.33 ?10:18
crimsundooglus: you can use any deb10:18
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doogluscrimsun: sorry?10:18
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crimsundooglus: e.g., one that you download from the archive.10:18
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johnsie2khow do I find out which version of Ibunut I'm running?10:19
johnsie2kUnbuntu*10:19
apokryphosjohnsie2k: cat /etc/issue10:19
bjvchristoffer: crash course in linux starts with    "open a terminal, type    ls        "10:19
jinnuh.. nothing happened lol10:19
jinnkemik, i'm very new at linux so i'm not sure exactly what you mean10:19
johnsie2kcheers10:19
SillyConeI have just passed the first stage of installation of breezy and after I reboot, I see a text-mode grub prompt. What should I do?10:19
bjvchristoffer: that's an L, fyi10:19
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doogluscrimsun: and then what?  I've got a .deb file - how do I get the md5sums?10:20
Severianjohnsie2k, open a terminal prompt.  Type uname, and tell me what it says.10:20
christofferwhere do I type that?10:20
kemikjinn:  in a terminal, type "sudo fdisk -l"   and paste the output on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/10:20
johnsie2kname10:20
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johnsie2kLinux10:20
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christofferi.e what's a terminal10:21
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Severianjohnsie2k, nevermind, that cat command is better anyway.  I like to learn new commands.10:21
sw__hello, after installing a libary and compiling/installing a programm the program can't find the libary: rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  <- find finds it but locate doesn't what can i do?10:21
jinnkemik: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=39202510:22
dooglusare ubuntu packages 'signed'?10:22
Severianchristoffer, a terminal is like a Dos Window in Windows.10:22
sanxiynsw__: Get libtorrent5.10:22
OrbordeSillyCone: Boot into the first kernel on the list, probably.10:22
wrabbitArgh!!!!10:22
wrabbit:(10:22
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sanxiyndooglus: In some sense, yes. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg10:23
apoenateste10:23
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SillyConeOrborde: there is no list10:23
SillyConejust prompt10:23
crimsundooglus: use -g with -p10:23
jinndid you get that kemik?10:23
OrbordeSillyCone: Just...huh?10:23
kemikjinn:  well it looks like your windows partitions are intact at least.. i guess you'll have to recover grub10:23
crimsundooglus: see debsums(1)10:23
HiddenFlywhat is the backports url for breezy?10:23
jinnhow do i do that10:23
OrbordeSillyCone: No little box with the various possible boot modes or anything?10:24
sanxiyndooglus: Release.gpg is a signature for the whole release.10:24
sw__sanxiyn, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 8779758 2005-10-13 09:24 /usr/local/lib/libtorrent.so.5.0.010:24
onkarshindeSillyCone: By default the options are hidden. If you wait some time it should automatically boot into X.10:24
mustard5sw__, do you think you need to create a soft link to that library?10:24
SillyConeOrborde: no, just the grub shell10:24
bjvHiddenFly: good question,           Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Sources10:24
dooglussanxiyn: ok...  how does it get used?10:24
kemik!tell jinn about grub10:24
bjv:((10:24
doogluscrimsun: thanks10:24
kemikjinn:  you did get a question about installing grub ?10:24
sw__mustard5, where should i place it?/how to call it10:24
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SillyConeonkarshinde: it's already been about 15 minutes :)10:24
OrbordeSillyCone: onkarshinde may be right. Try booting up and waiting about 30 seconds once it gets to GRUB (it should auto-boot in 10, usually?)10:24
mustard5sw__, I'm not sure10:24
onkarshindedooglus: apt-get checks the packages for integrity before installing them10:24
airmikeycan someone send me a link to get this dvd to play10:25
airmikey ?10:25
johnsie2kanyone got any good games from the repositiories?10:25
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bitbucketblackjack10:25
NPDhi10:25
jinnkemik: yeah i did10:25
dooglusonkarshinde: it does?  that's good10:25
onkarshindeSillyCone: Something is messed up. How did the installation go?10:25
wrabbitaftertaf, typing in gedit /etc/X11.xorg.conf gets me a blank text document10:25
crimsunbzflag, wesnoth, etc.10:25
Madpilotjohnsie2k: Scorched3d10:25
sw__mustard5, should i place it in the folder of the app using it?10:25
SillyConeonkarshinde: I'll reboot it, not press any keys and see if it works10:25
sanxiyndooglus: Release.gpg signs Release file. Release file has checksums for Packages file. Packages file has checksums for all packages.10:25
kemikjinn:  check out the link ubotu gave you. i gtg10:25
johnsie2ki got netpanzer and thats pretty good10:25
aftertafwrabbit:  check the path etc... /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:25
NPDshort question: does 5.10 have support for ipw210010:25
da_bon_bonhow does one change the theme of usplash ?10:25
jinnok..10:25
mustard5sw__, i'd say in the directory it is looking10:25
SillyConeonkarshinde: it went fine, at the end it found my XP and installed grub10:26
seliniumjohnsie2k, wesnoth zsnes10:26
dooglussanxiyn: ok.  that makes sense10:26
twoknee-what size should / partition be on a 250 gig drive in ubuntu for high end desktop/low end server, 1 dvd game and a little extra room ?10:26
mustard5and the link would redirect it10:26
johnsie2kI'll try wesnoth.. thanks :-010:26
aftertafwrabbit:  my typo error, dude..... crap kb and not paying attention, sorry!!!10:26
sanxiyndooglus: APT checks signature with /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.10:26
onkarshindedooglus: If you are installing from some extra repos apt-get install will tell you that package is not authenticated. You can add extra repos' signature also.10:26
onkarshindeSillyCone: What happened after that?10:26
sanxiyndooglus: Perhaps you want to check fingerprints of it then.10:26
seliniumjohnsie2k, zsnes is a fabulous Super Nintendo emulator, play Mario Zelda...10:26
mustard5sw__, its not really an area I am very knowledgeable about10:26
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NPDshould i download and install it?10:27
dooglusonkarshinde: when you say "extra", do you mean like "universe" and "multiverse"?10:27
dooglusonkarshinde: or do you mean unofficial repos?10:27
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sw__mustard5, when i run rtorrent(wich needs libtorrent) i don't know where it looks for the lib :/10:27
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sanxiyndooglus: trusted.gpg file includes (by default) /usr/share/apt/{debian,ubuntu}-archive.gpg, which is an "archive-signing" key.10:27
crimsununiverse and multiverse are official Ubuntu repositories.10:27
wrabbitaftertaf, ah.. sorry bout that. http://pastebin.com/39203110:27
SillyConeonkarshinde: the CD ejected and it said to take the CD out and reboot. I did that, and when it rebooted, it shows the grub shell. And says press tab for avaliable commands10:27
aftertafhehe. no pbs, working too ;)10:27
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sanxiyndooglus: More here: http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/apt-secure/10:28
HiddenFlyanyone here have any idea where would i find drivers for canon pixma ip4200 printer?10:28
twoneegot disconnected10:28
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onkarshindedooglus: Not sure about those two. May be signatures for them are not added by default. I was talking about breezy-extras or something like that.10:28
twoneewhat size should / partition be on a 250 gig drive in ubuntu for high end desktop/low end server, 1 dvd game and a little extra room ?10:28
sw__mustard5, thx nevertheless, i think i will contact(spam) the developer10:28
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onkarshindeSillyCone: See if you can type command 'dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop'10:28
aftertafwrabbit:  ok....... open the file for editing...10:28
Orbordetwonee: What else do you intend to do with the same drive?10:28
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dortowhat is ubuntu's USP? like debian goes for stability, mandrake for latest packages etc10:29
aftertafwrabbit:  on each line where you have Modes      "1024x768",     add "800x600"10:29
aftertafdorto:  all around coolness ;)10:29
bjvtwonee: my / is 5 gigs, games/large software are installed into 20gb home or 60+ partitions on other drives.10:29
dooglussanxiyn: thanks.  that's a useful link10:29
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dortooh my :)10:29
bjv5 is enough for my apt cache, and utils i install from it.10:29
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SillyConeonkarshinde: no, it doesnt work. It's not BASH, its the grub text thingie10:29
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basvgum, why does `maildrop` have `exim` as dependency? I would like to stick to postfix....10:30
NPDUBUNTU SUCKS10:30
twoneeOrborde, i was thinking of using a dns server to translate my ip to ipv6 and the rest play half life 2 and your typical surfing email and multimedia tasks10:30
NPDnow when i got your attention...10:30
aftertafNPD:  how dr?le10:30
sanxiynNPD: Then why are you here.10:30
NPDdoes 5.10 have support for ipw210010:30
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sw__dorto, ubuntu goes for sensless backports :p .o(just kidding) - "linux for human beings"10:30
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sanxiynbasvg: maildrop depends on exim *or* mail-transport-agent.10:30
XanaduNPD: Yes10:30
SillyConeonkarshinde: it doesnt even get to booting kernel, it just gets stuch at grub, where the boot menu is supposed to be10:30
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SillyConestuck*10:31
wrabbitaftertaf,  just next to all six of them?  ie. "1024x768", "800x600"10:31
aftertafwrabbit:  yep :)10:31
crimsunNPD: yes, the ipw2100 driver is in linux-image10:31
wrabbitalrighty... will try10:31
ecii have a problem with nfs10:31
crimsunNPD: (contains the kernel)10:31
basvgsanxiyn: well, not really :) I just did a fresh install of breezy and apt-get install maildrop really really REALLY wants exim10:31
aftertafwrabbit:  for starters........ then try startx again. what is the error message ?10:31
NPDthnx, got private reply. I'll download and install 5.10.10:31
eciim trying to mount remote nfs server which is running in mandrake10:31
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NPDUbuntu gets me back from Mepis.10:31
damir_anybody installed 5.10 on amilo a1630?10:31
feral_kidIf someone is running 5.10, can the tell me what version of fwbuilder is available?10:31
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NPDsorry for the rude comment!!! :)10:32
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syndHey I have a hp scanjet 397010:33
twoneei am trying to figure out what a reasonable / partition size is for ubuntu on a 250 gb drive10:33
Xanaduferal_kid: 2.0.7-110:33
syndHow can I get it to scan on Breezy?10:33
airmikeydo i need to add repositories...cant get nothin to load10:33
KenSentMeferal_kid look at http://packages.ubuntu.com10:33
airmikeyfor breezy10:33
zoot_hi, i have all the pkgs to update my breezy preview cd to current breezy and have copied all debs to /var/cache/apt/archives, but synaptic still insists on downloading from the net? how can i force synaptic/apt to look in the cache?10:33
feral_kidXanadu: Thanks... I have been waiting for an upgrade for awhile...10:33
Crubetwoknee what do you want to use ubuntu for?10:33
syndAnyone?10:33
basvgahhh, ok, there was no postfix yet10:33
onkarshindeSillyCone: I am not sure what has happened. I haven't seen such problem with any installation before.10:34
twoneebasically a internet appliance and mulitmedia and a dns server to tranlate my ip into ipv610:34
lightstarferal_kid : the version in 5.10 is 2.0.710:34
Xanadusynd: there's quite a bit of imaging support for HP built into Breezy. I don't have the same HP scanner but it just worked with XSane10:34
Madpilotsynd: search the wiki for scanners, for starters10:34
SillyConeonkarshinde: ok, thanks for trying to help10:34
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lightstarXanadu : oops didnt realize u replied it already10:34
onkarshindeairmikey: Did you do a clean install?10:34
jinncan someone help me? i barely installed linux and now i lost my windows xp >_< i'm really new to linux..10:34
Crubetwoknee you can read your files (music, pictures etc) from your windows partition when using ubuntu. 5 gigs is enough to run it10:34
syndXanadu: xsane didnt find anything..10:34
syndMadpilot: Thanks.10:35
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twoneeCrube if i install half life 2 on ubuntu what partition would the installation go in ?10:35
zoot_calling all apt gurus :) how to for apt/synaptic to look in cache?10:35
airmikeyonkarshinde:yes10:35
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dortowhat are the chances of connecting my nokia 3660 to the ubuntu breezy using a USB adapter/dongle?10:36
onkarshindezoot_: apt-cache search something10:36
CrubeOn the ubuntu partition. Get 5 for ubuntu +any games you wanna install on it10:36
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dortoi have but a windows driver for the usb dongle10:36
wrabbitaftertaf, graphics are working fine.  Still very boggy10:36
twoneeok thank you10:36
bjvApt: Need to get 582MB of archives. :\10:36
onkarshindeairmikey: You have to enable repos in /etc/apt/sources.list by uncommenting necessary lines. You will need to so 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'10:36
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QMarioToday's the day.10:36
zoot_onkarshinde: no, i mean force it to use pkgs downloaded (from another install) into /var/cache/apt/archives instead of fetching them _again_ from the net10:37
QMarioHello meng!!! :)10:37
Crubetwoknee do you have experience of linux gaming?10:37
Xanadudorto: depends on the dongle, but a lot are supported through the bluez package10:37
QMarioWho is using Ubuntu Breezy right now?10:37
HiddenFlyhow can i burn divx files so that i could view them with a non-divx-compatible dvd-player?10:37
XanaduQMario: Me :) It rocks10:37
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bjvQMario: im apt-get dist-upgrading to it right now.10:37
lightstarQMario : i updated myhoary to breezy..:D10:37
dortoXanadu: ok, how easy is it to bluez on ububtu? or is it pre-installed?10:37
twoneeno i dont Crube but i saw it on the wiki.  do you have knowledge of /usr partition ?  is it needed ?10:37
wrabbitI give up.  I hate to say it but win2k was alot smoother.10:37
bjvhas anyone found backports for breezy yet?10:38
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mengis there alternate BT trackers for ubuntu breezy?10:38
crimsundorto: preinstalled.10:38
bjvwrabbit: you dont own win2k, and you cant control it.10:38
bjvwho cares if it is smoother?10:38
dortook, thx10:38
QMarioGood night everyone!!! :)10:38
Xanadudorto: pre-installed on Breezy, on Hoary just search for bluez in synaptic and install them10:38
onkarshindezoot_: It will automatically use downloaded packages if they are right for your install. If it is dwnloading again that means it is expecting different packages. If you still want to install some different version from the expected then do something like 'sudo apt-get install package=versionnumber'10:38
dortook - thx10:38
Crubetwoknee you will have a difficult time if you've never played on ubuntu. You will need to get a program to use directx10:38
tristanmikebjv, to my understanding there are no backports for breezy yet10:38
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twoneeCrube yes i know10:39
bjvtristanmike: right. so we just chill?10:39
wrabbitbjv, I can't control ubuntu either.  Took me 3 hours last night to get the damn wireless card working.  win2k is just faster all round on a 700mhz laptop10:39
zoot_onkarshinde: thx10:39
jinnlightstar: you there?10:39
Madpilotbjv: no backports until later in the next version gets started up10:39
lightstarjinn : yes10:39
Crubetwonee then you should be ok if you have your graphic card working.10:39
sanxiynmeng: BT tracker?10:39
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tristanmikebjv, that could be totally unfounded, but if that's the case, then yes, I'd think we "just chill" what are you looking for?10:39
bjvwrabbit: linux is sitting right on your disk in plain text, with pages upon pages of help available.10:39
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mengsanxiyn: yes10:39
bjvwrabbit: win2k is locked down.10:39
jinnlightstar: do you know how i can fix this problem? >_<10:39
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twoneeCrube or anyone.  can anyone shed some light on partition size for /usr partition ?  is it necessary ?10:39
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bjvwrabbit: and costs hundreds of dollars. :P10:39
Crubetwoknee I dont think it is couse I've never heard of it :D10:40
marlijsI have blue lines crossing my image when I use HP Scanjet 5370c? What is solution?10:40
KnikkerHi! Do i need to reeinstall? I installed breezy rc the otherr day....10:40
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twoneethe /usr ?10:40
sanxiynKnikker: No, you don't.10:40
Xanadutwonee it's not necessary to have a seperate /usr partition10:40
bjvwrabbit: though for what it is worth im running a win2k server in the other room.10:40
chaumurkynope10:40
KnikkerTHanks10:40
twoneeok10:40
twoneethank you10:40
lightstarjinn : did the linux installation complete (i assume you're using breezy)10:40
bjvbecause the windows only hardware was cheap. :P10:40
tristanmiketwonee, you should just automatically let the installer create the sized10:40
zcat[1] You don't need to make a /usr, it'll just become part of / ..10:40
jinnyeah it installed completely10:40
KnikkerHTkanks sanxiyn10:40
wrabbitwrabbit, I have winxp and ubuntu dual booting on my desktop.  I just installed ubuntu on the lappy because I was told that it'd run alot better.10:40
wrabbitarg10:40
jinnlightstar: i installed it completely, i just didnt download updates10:41
wrabbitbjv, I have winxp and ubuntu dual booting on my desktop.  I just installed ubuntu on the lappy because I was told that it'd run alot better.10:41
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bjvwrabbit: windows 2000 can run very smoothly.10:41
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jinnlightstar: i figured i didnt really need them, but how can i fix my grub? >_< cuz it's not booting my windows xp10:41
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lightstarjinn : during the partition creation, did u let ubuntu create the partition automatically or did u create the partition yourself?10:41
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bjvwrabbit: on very old hardware.   though id bet a 2.6 kernel + xserv + lwm   would be smooth-er. :P10:41
wrabbitbjv, it did when I first bought laptop.  I changed it because I thought it'd be a bit quicker10:41
wrabbitboy, was I wrong10:42
bjvbut that would be a custom OS, you could probably start with slack for a distro.10:42
jinnlightstar: i let it "automatically" create it, and it's installed on a different partition from the one xp is installed in10:42
bjvubuntu isnt supposed to be real fast. it's supposed to me "modern"10:42
syndGRRR10:42
CrubeThe new ubuntu is real fast :P10:42
lightstarjinn : jinn : u saw the windows partition after that rite?10:42
syndSane says it doesnt support my scanner.10:42
wrabbitCrube, wrong!10:43
wrabbithee10:43
syndGAH.10:43
onkarshindeCrube: What is your configuration? RAM?10:43
jinnlightstar: it comes out on the loading menu, but when i select it, it won't load..10:43
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bjvwrabbit: to be honest, it isnt ubuntu. it's Gnome.10:43
wrabbitNot on a 700mhz laptop with 256mb ram10:43
dooglussanxiyn: I've tried tamparing with a .deb file and updating the checksums to match, but apt-get fails to install it still.  that's what it should do, I guess, but I can't see how it can tell...10:43
Crubeonkarshinde on the computer ubuntu is installed. 450mhz 64mbram 6.5gig hd10:43
wrabbitbjv, That's what I thought.  There has to be a way to tweak10:43
lightstarjinn : ahh..does it give any message as to why it cannot boot?10:43
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aftertafwrabbit:  im on a 500mhz with 256 ram. and its smooth as.... :)10:43
jinnlightstar: no, it just freezes..10:43
dooglussanxiyn: is each package signed?  or is it just the checksum in the Packages list that gives me away?10:43
aftertafwrabbit:  what is your processor?10:44
bjvwrabbit: run     top           in a term10:44
onkarshindeCrube: he he. I thought 128MB RAM and 1.6 GHz was not sufficient10:44
bjvand start killing shit.10:44
bjv:p10:44
sanxiyndooglus: Checksum in the Packages list.10:44
SillyConeI have just passed the first stage of installation of breezy and after I reboot, I see a text-mode grub prompt. What should I do?10:44
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wrabbitaftertaf, it's a 700mhz.  Intel I guess10:44
wrabbitbjv, ?10:44
basvgSillyCone: did you make sure that your root partition is bootable ..?10:44
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tristanmikeSillyCone, pick Ubuntu10:44
lightstarjinn : hmm...strange10:45
onkarshindeDoes anyone think that cairo in GNOME 2.12.1 has improved performance of GNOME?10:45
marlijsI have blue lines crossing my image when I use HP Scanjet 5370c? What is solution?10:45
basvgSillyCone: I'm also doing a fresh install atm, it's somewhere in the first stage that yo ucan configure it10:45
jinnlightstar: that's what i've been wondering.. >_<10:45
Crubeonkarshinde Well KDE is slower than GNOME. It's better looking but slower. Changing from kde to gnome really improved the performance10:45
aftertafyou guess?   :/  pIII?   install the linux-686 package, kernel for PII/III/IV10:45
wrabbitMaybe Debian 'Sarge might run a little better10:45
dooglussanxiyn: so the key is only used when verifying the Release.gpg signature?  and that Release.gpg file changes whenever the repository has any package updated?10:45
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, not at this piont10:45
jinnlightstar: nevermind.. i'll just get rid of it =\10:45
wrabbityeah.. PIII10:45
sanxiyndooglus: Exactly. That's the current situation.10:45
wrabbitsorry aftertaf ..10:45
aftertafwrabbit:  as a new user, dont approach sarge10:45
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HiddenWolfonkarshinde, cairo still isn't _fully_ optimised10:45
jinnlightstar: thanx for the help anyways10:45
basvgafk, lecture..10:45
wrabbitah, alrighty.  It's sitting right next to me10:45
lightstarjinn : i m not sure coz i don't dual boot but u could try accesing the win partition frm ur linux to c if it still has ur info10:45
sanxiyndooglus: Also, because of this, unofficial repositories need to provide signature file too.10:45
jinnk10:46
dooglussanxiyn: was Release.gpg updated with every upload during the development of breezy?10:46
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aftertafwrabbit:  no pbs, but you will get frustrated. try to bear in mind linux is a journey10:46
lightstarjinn : then u can try 2 reinstall xp or some ohter approach10:46
sanxiyndooglus: Yes.10:46
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onkarshindeIs there anyone from India who can ship me Breezy CD for less that Rs. 100?10:46
sanxiyndooglus: (By daily cron run. There's script to update the archive.)10:46
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wrabbitaftertaf, so it runs smooth on your 500mhz notebook?  Is that even possible?  You're running gnome?10:46
SillyConebasvg: i mad the /boot partition bootable10:46
lcorewhere is gnome-terminal profiles info stored?10:46
jareth_i need help upgrading "hoary" to "breezy"10:46
dortothere is only one ubuntu breezy cd to download and start installation from? how to install more packages? through internet only?10:46
aftertafwrabbit:  kde... and/or e1710:46
onkarshindejareth_: what help?10:46
aftertaf!breezy10:46
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:46
jinnlightstar: ok, thanx =\10:46
wrabbithmm10:46
onkarshindedorto: Yup10:46
dooglussanxiyn: a daily cron run wouldn't be enough, would it?  If it's not up to date, the uploaded packages won't install?10:46
jareth_i need to change my repositories10:46
jareth_?10:47
aftertafjareth_:  see link ^^^^^^10:47
aftertafyes10:47
lightstarjinn : no prob...10:47
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wrabbitmaybe I should change to kde.. is there an easy way to do that?10:47
jareth_what link?10:47
HiddenWolfwrabbit, kde is just as heavy10:47
sanxiyndooglus: Well, it doesn't work that way. Package upload is *not* immediately available for download.10:47
onkarshindejareth_: Read this10:47
onkarshinde!breezy10:47
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:47
wrabbitHowever, I did just do the default install.  Maybe I need to kill a few processes etc10:47
HiddenWolfjareth_, but you can stall kubuntu-desktop for kde10:47
wrabbitMaybe things are just bogging it down10:47
Chousukewrabbit: try xfce410:47
dooglussanxiyn: what I mean is there is usually more than one set of uploads per day, and they all install independantly of each other10:47
jareth_i don't have kde installed10:47
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SeverianDoes anyone here have an informed prediction on when xubuntu will be out?10:48
jareth_is it likely to break things when upgrading?10:48
sanxiyndooglus: Well, I don't know every details.10:48
onkarshindejareth_: No10:48
dooglussanxiyn: I can upgrade at 6pm and get a bunch of stuff come down and get installed.  then if I check again 3 hours later there's sometimes a bunch more stuff.  that wouldn't happen if the Package.gpg file wasn't updated, would it?10:48
crimsunSeverian: it'll be out April 200610:48
aftertafwrabbit:  HiddenWolf kde works better than gnome on this pc......10:48
dortowhat about those who are on dial-up connections? any image set like ISO files available from somewhere?10:48
onkarshindeSeverian: What is xubuntu?10:48
NPDwhoaa... i'm downloading 5.10 at the moment....10:48
HiddenWolfaftertaf, I prefer xfce on slow pc's10:48
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dooglussanxiyn: I'm just trying to understand things.  Sorry if I sound confrontational.  :)10:48
crimsunonkarshinde: Xfce on Ubuntu10:48
NPD2 hours remaining10:48
aftertafwrabbit:  checklist: instal linux-686 kernel package,   make sure you enabled some swap.....10:48
SeverianUbuntu based on xfce desktop = xubuntu10:48
jareth_thanks a lot.. need to do some reading :)10:49
wrabbitHiddenWolf, is there an easy way for a newbie to swap over10:49
Chousukew00t.10:49
onkarshindeHiddenWolf: How do you define slow PC?10:49
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Chousukexubuntu would own10:49
Chousukeseriously.10:49
wrabbitaftertaf, There's 300mb swap partition10:49
aftertafmine aint slow. it works real good with kde 3.510:49
crimsunChousuke: you can already install xubuntu-desktop in Breezy10:49
aftertafwrabbit:  good :)10:49
wrabbitaftertaf, Installed 430 updates last night10:49
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, 300mhz laptop with 64mb ram runnig snappy on xfce10:49
wrabbitlol10:49
HiddenWolfwrabbit, swap to what?10:49
lcorewhere is gnome-terminal profiles info stored?10:49
aftertafwrabbit:  hehe breezy :)    get the 686 package10:49
onkarshindeSeverian: If you really want some XFCE based distro why don;t you try morphix?10:49
aftertafHiddenFly:  that is slow, imho :)10:49
onkarshindeHiddenWolf: Thanks10:49
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, because ubuntu is just as good?10:49
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Chousukecrimsun: cool.10:49
wrabbitHiddenFly, gnome to xfce410:49
feral_kidAfter the upgrade of the 435 packages of the 5.10 upgrade, does it take a long while to complete the upgrade process?10:50
dooglusI noticed that when I tried tampering with a .deb file in the archive directory, the .deb file got silently deleted when I tried to install it10:50
HiddenWolfferal_kid, yes, that can take a while10:50
HiddenFlyaftertaf: wrabbit please watch your hilights :)10:50
Chousukeare there any problems with upgrading hoary to breezy at the moment?10:50
HiddenWolfferal_kid, first it downloads, then it unpacks, then configures all the packages.10:50
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ChousukeI might upgrade the family machine.10:50
HiddenFlyChousuke: i just upgraded mine without problems10:50
wrabbitHiddenWolf, Oh sorry :) From gnome to xfce410:50
HiddenWolfChousuke, _shouldn't_ be.10:50
aftertafwrabbit:  install the optimised kernel package and suggested modules.10:51
wrabbitsorry bout that HiddenFly :P10:51
Chousukeyeah :)10:51
HiddenWolfwrabbit, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop10:51
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aftertafsorry HiddenFly ....10:51
wrabbitaftertaf, I think I already have10:51
Severianoncarshinde, I like feather or dsl  for small distros.  But, combining Ubuntu qualities with a light desktop would be great for some older laptops I have.10:51
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bettong_BOFH!repos10:51
ubotusomebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)10:51
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chapeaurougehi all... how is the upgrade from hoary to breezy? smooth?10:51
aftertafwrabbit:  dont try 500 things at once, either ;)   type uname -a10:51
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aftertafwrabbit:  thatll tell you which kernel youre on10:52
onkarshindeHiddenWolf: There is no such thing as xubuntu-desktop10:52
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, is on breezy. :)10:52
aftertaf!info xubuntu10:52
wrabbitaftertaf, Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux10:52
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, universe tho10:52
wrabbit:O10:52
aftertafwrabbit:  386!10:52
onkarshindeHiddenWolf: Ok. I was checking hoary10:52
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, apt-get install xfce410:52
wrabbitaftertaf, :|10:52
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cycykewlbonjour10:53
cycykewlbreezy est sorti ?10:53
HiddenWolfright. :)10:53
jaydeguiai would like to ask on how to install fonts10:53
chapeaurougecycykewl, oui.10:53
cycykewldepuis aujourd'hui ?10:53
chapeaurougeoui10:53
cycykewlen stable :)10:53
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aftertafwrabbit:  sudo apt-get install  linux-68610:53
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aftertafcycykewl:  english stp....10:53
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opahello all, just installed ubuntu and my computer FREEZES just after i log in ,does anyone know anything about it???10:54
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tristanmikejaydeguia, you can "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"10:54
onkarshindejaydeguia: Type fonts:/// in nautilus (file browser). Adding to this filder should work.10:54
cycykewlsorry aftertaf10:54
wrabbitaftertaf, should I be saying yes to the questions?10:54
jaydeguiaok ill try10:54
wrabbitdone10:54
wrabbitlol10:54
aftertafcycykewl:  no pbs (but ppl from all over the world) mais m'en fout grave moi :D10:54
wrabbitaftertaf, Says it'll take 40 minutes10:54
wrabbithehe10:54
aftertafwrabbit:  ok.   if you have enough diskspace, you can install kde. that way, test both10:55
aftertafwrabbit:  hehe :D10:55
wrabbitaftertaf, So this'll upgrade the kernel?10:55
HiddenWolfopa, freezes when?10:55
kevorHi, i'm getting this error when logging in: The configuration file contains an invalid command for the login dialog, so running the default command. Please fix your configuration.10:55
wrabbitaftertaf, Would that have any affect on the boggyness?10:55
kevorthen i'm getting the GTK greeter (the ugly one)10:55
cycykewlaftertaf, do U have procedure to upgrade my ubuntu ?10:55
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ChousukeI wonder how long it'll take to upgrade to breezy with a 256 connectio :P10:56
Chousuke+n10:56
HiddenWolfChousuke, quite long, I'd imagine10:56
aftertafwrabbit:  itll make the whole thing smoother, cos kernel optimised for your processor.10:56
ChousukeHiddenWolf: Yeah.10:56
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kYotiKaptitude dist-upgrade is working with the breezy 5.10 prv isnt it?10:56
onkarshindeChousuke: Quite long10:56
wrabbitaftertaf, interesting.  Well, I'll see how that goes then :) Thanks for the help10:56
ChousukeDad wanted to save money so he downgraded the family connection.10:56
aftertafcycykewl:  change 'hoary' to 'breezy' in your sources.list, then usual apt stuff... tu t'y connais?10:56
Chousukefrom 2M10:56
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aftertafwrabbit:  no pbs.10:56
Chousukebut at least it's not my problem.10:56
onkarshindekYotiK: Can you rephrase question?10:57
aftertafChousuke:  :/10:57
cycykewlmmm ok10:57
cycykewlthx10:57
wrabbitaftertaf, I'll let you know how it goes in 40 minutes.  I'm off to eat dinner10:57
aftertaflol wrabbit ok.10:57
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wrabbitcheers all.  I'll be back in a bit10:57
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airmikeyi need flash plugin for 64 bit firefox10:57
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Flashhi all10:58
ratboyhi there10:58
ChousukeWhy does dist-upgrade want to remove ubuntu-desktop?10:58
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Chousukeand mozilla-firefox-gnome-support10:58
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Flashgnome and gdm are not accepting my passwords10:58
HiddenWolfChousuke, that is odd, don't dist-upgrade if it does that10:58
FlashI can login in the console however10:58
Flashits a clean 5.10 install10:58
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GNAMI cannot wait for DVDs10:59
HiddenWolfChousuke, are you using a mirror?10:59
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HiddenWolfGNAM, coming up10:59
GNAMok10:59
HiddenWolfGNAM, should've hit the server already, in fact10:59
aftertafFlash:  caps/numlock?10:59
HiddenWolfGNAM, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/release/11:00
Flashnope aftertaf11:00
FlashI can login to the console11:00
Flashif I switch with ctrlaltf111:00
FlashI already had the problem right after install11:00
Jeromeeanyone know when Ubuntu is going to ship out CD's?11:00
Flashthat all the gnome 'admin' packages were not working11:00
Flashgnome asked for a root pass when opening11:00
aftertafFlash:  strange... gnome/ kde?      remove home/flash/.ICEauthority11:00
FlashI didnt have one11:00
ChousukeHiddenWolf: yes.11:00
Chousukebut hm11:00
onkarshindeJeromee: I suppose Shipit has started for breezy11:01
HiddenWolfChousuke, it might not be fully updated11:01
FlashI can try that11:01
ChousukeI think I know why.11:01
kYotiKonkarshinde: i meant if i have 5.10 breezy preview release, and i have done the aptitude dist-upgrade yesterday and day before getting the latest breezy in those repos... i should have 5.10 final right? or has the repos not pushed breezy out yet?11:01
aftertafFlash:  weird that.... how did you run X?   gdm autorun, or sudo startx?11:01
FlashI can get into gnome now11:01
Chousukeit depends on some new packages that will be installed.11:01
Flashgdm autorun11:01
Flashthe ubuntu default11:01
HiddenWolfonkarshinde, it stopped sending out hoary  a while ago, and will soon start shipping breezy, you can still place orders11:01
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aftertafok.   and you can get in now?   what did you do to make it work?11:01
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luckeymananyone know how to get an account for http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ?11:02
ChousukeHmm, I have an idea.11:02
FlashI restarted gdm from the console11:02
ChousukeI'll use -d11:02
Flashafter which it accepted my pw11:02
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onkarshindekYotiK: Repos have breezy as soon as it was released. You can one try dist-upgrade11:02
Chousukethat way it will only download new packages.11:02
FlashI still cant use any of the admin tools however11:02
tg_hi... i'm brand new to ubuntu and linux... the install was painless, but my soundcard doesnt seem to configured properly (rhythmbox and xmms complain)... where should i start?11:02
Flashonly when I open a terminal11:02
johnsie2khow do I change which program mozilla uses for embededded RM vidoes11:02
johnsie2k?11:02
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Flashbecome root11:03
Flashand start the program by hand11:03
kYotiKonkarshinde, i one, did that, and i didnt know that if it would be considered a dist-upgrade since i was already using 5.10.........11:03
onkarshindekYotiK: I mean try apt-get update first and then apt-get dist-upgrade11:03
aftertafFlash:  hmm. ok. if you open a terminal, does sudo [command]  work?11:03
HiddenWolfChousuke, regular dist-upgrade should work.11:03
ChousukeHiddenWolf: yes, yes.11:03
Chousukebut I'll only download the packages.11:03
jareth_guys, thanks! updating right now!11:03
Flashaftertaf: yes that is how I set a root password11:03
ChousukeI'll install them later.11:03
onkarshindekYotiK: Doesn't matter what it is considered, it will serve the job.11:03
Chousukethough...11:03
aftertafFlash:  ok. cool.    but try to remain user and sudo as much as possible......11:03
Flashso 'sudo time-admin' works to11:04
Flashbut only from console11:04
Chousuke0% [2 libc6-dev 2210595/2791kB 79%]                             18,3kB/s 9h5m23s :P11:04
Flashnot the link in the gnome menu11:04
aftertafFlash:  gksu buggy?11:04
FlashI think so11:04
Flashim not a regulair gnome user11:04
Flashmore into kde11:04
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Flashbut I thought id give it a chance11:04
feral_kidWhile I was using knoppix, I was able to download and utilize the nvidia driver for my laptop... Is that still possible with ubuntu 5.10?11:04
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Flashand installed ubuntu11:04
aftertafa clean 5.10 install?   a breezy ISO?11:04
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aftertafFlash:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:05
aftertaf:D11:05
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aftertafi avoid gnome for the same reasons you are having pbs with.11:05
aftertaf(if that made any sense)11:05
Flashaftertaf: yeah completely clean from the install cds11:05
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kYotiKonkarshinde:  i used redhat /fedora previous to ubuntu.. actually i used rehat since version 2... and dist-upgrade is well known to break fedora / redhat so i have always stayed away from that, and just upgraded via cd.....  but now it must work pretty damn good with debian based distros!  this day is one i have waited for, for a while actually. it was gonna be the final thing that made me want to keep ubuntu.. i started with 5.10 preview bt11:05
kYotiKw.. havent even considered going back to redhat unless it broke today doing distupgrade.. cant tell a diff so im keeping ubuntu probably for good !11:05
Flashaftertaf: dont you think this is weird11:05
Flashim surely not the only one with this problem11:06
mirakaftertaf: which kind of problems ?11:06
Flashpasswords not being accepted11:06
Flashin gnome11:06
Flashgtksu and gdm11:06
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aftertafFlash:  mirak : gnome just Not Working (tm)  - icons & shortcuts going nowhere ec.11:06
aftertafsince 2.6 :/11:06
aftertafor even 2.211:06
CrubeOdd. I've had no problems with it11:07
mirakaftertaf: with a clean install ?11:07
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Doktoreashi guys11:07
Flashthis is the first time in 3 years im using gnome11:07
aftertafCrube:  a lot of people dont have any pbs and thats a GOOD thing.11:07
Doktoreasare there dvd of breezy?11:07
kYotiKFlash: what did you use11:07
Flashmirak: Ive got a clean install now11:07
mirakaftertaf: problem I had was with the gnome-panel that was crashing, but it's fixed now11:07
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mirakFlash: and you still have problems ???11:07
Flashyeah11:07
FlashI only installed ubuntu yesterday11:07
Flashtried to set some options11:07
Flashlike my network11:07
mirakFlash: did you kept the same /home ?11:07
aftertafmirak:  been put off gnome too much in the past to go back. and i prefer kde & e17 :)11:07
Flashnope mirak11:08
FlashI went from WinXP on my laptop to ubuntu11:08
Flashso no old data11:08
FlashI completely formatted the hd11:08
mirakaftertaf: e17 I have installed, but when will it be finished ? :D11:08
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kYotiKi hate enlightenment11:08
phiqtionDoktoreas, Breezy isn't available as DVD because it's only 1 CD.11:08
aftertaf:D mirak11:08
mirakFlash: whaat FS do you use ?11:08
aftertaf!start a desktop war11:08
ubotue is much better than kde!11:08
Flashactually11:08
aftertafloool11:08
FlashI have no clue11:08
FlashI let ubuntu configure teh shit11:08
Flashbut gimme a mom11:08
kYotiKkde nor e satisfy me11:08
Flashfstab says ext311:09
kYotiKkde is too Window'ish11:09
ratboyyup11:09
kYotiKenlightenment is too plain......11:09
aftertafkYotiK:  dont troll.....11:09
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mirakKyoPC: and Gnome is not enough OSXish11:09
ratboycomes from os X and loves gnome11:09
ratboyeven if there is huge room for improvment :)11:10
zcat[1] how do you make gnome look like osx?11:10
mirakratboy: OS X is stil far away11:10
kYotiKOSX'ish?  who wants OSX'ish ? why dont you just use OSX if you like OSX?11:10
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ratboysecond kyotish11:10
Flashlemme update this ubuntu11:10
aftertafofftopic please......; )11:10
mirakKyoPC: because I can't afford a 3000 mac11:10
Flashmaybe theres some updated packages11:10
ratboyfind os X theme stupid & ugly11:10
mirakKyoPC: I use it on mac though since I have a G3 and a G411:10
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kYotiKaftertaf, are you saying we have to be talking about something to do with the topic?11:11
ratboy3000 euros ???11:11
mirak400mhz KyoPC11:11
ratboywhat mac do u look for :)11:11
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mirakratboy: a dual G5 2,5ghz11:11
Flashmac-mini 700 euro11:11
mirakmy neibourg got one11:11
aftertafkYotiK:  im saying discussions like this are better to be in #ubunt-offtopic, to keep the chan clear for ppl needing help.11:11
onkarshindemirak: Why do you want to use something you can't afford? Why don't want to use something you can afford for your lifetime?11:11
aftertafkYotiK:  even if i started the discussion ;)11:11
ratboyfind a dual 2 ghz at 1300 euros (not a new one though)11:11
kYotiKaftertaf, i understand that but there isnt anyone really asking for help now except flash11:12
zerokarmaleftc'mon bittorrent seeders...11:12
ratboywell sorry for that mac talk11:12
FlashI enabled some reps in sources.list now11:12
Flashtrying to update11:12
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mirakonkarshinde: that's why I said I think the default of Gnome is to not be like OS X enough :D11:12
Flasherm11:12
kYotiKand flash is pretty much talking about something none of us have experienced... so i dunno.. we gotta do something to stay away from idle :D11:12
Flashye there is :P11:12
mirakonkarshinde: flaw/default11:12
aftertafFlash:  cool. get em and see.... :)11:13
Flash192 new packages11:13
Flashgimme an hour ye11:13
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kYotiKFlash, are you using hoary or breezy?11:13
Flashaarch11:13
Flashbreezy 5.1011:13
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Flashgnome again11:13
Flashenter password11:13
Flashpassword not accepted11:13
onkarshindemirak: It is same as saying that windows is not like linux enough or vice-versa11:13
Flashthere we go11:14
kYotiKhmm thats weird..  did you just download the final and the gnome messed up like that?11:14
aftertafFlash:  d/led yesterday != stable version.......  sudo apt-get  in console11:14
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mirakKyoPC: what is lacking for me in Gnome is expos, a true mounting of ISOs through GUI11:14
Flashaftertaf: im updating now :)11:14
aftertafkYotiK:  not the final final..... got it yesterday so couple of days behind.....11:14
mirakonkarshinde: no it's similar to saying KDE is to Windowish11:14
kYotiKFlash:   sudo aptitude dist-upgrade11:14
mirak:D11:14
aftertafFlash:  ok cool :)11:14
Flashit said on the website it was the stable11:14
kYotiKaftertaf: i havent had any updates since the am of yesterday though...11:14
Flash'the latest stable version'11:15
Flashactually11:15
Flashit was this night11:15
Flashabout 10 hours ago11:15
mirakonkarshinde: that's not a secret that Gnome copies OS X11:15
kYotiKFlash: that would be hoary if you got it yesterday11:15
aftertafFlash:  in any case, updates may help.11:15
mustard5that would be breezy today, but hoary yesterday11:15
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Flash5.1011:15
kYotiKFlash   cat /etc/*release*11:15
aftertafosx is a copy of gnome anyway, bsd based.11:15
Flash5.1011:15
Flashbreezy11:16
onkarshindemirak: Gnome is earth and Aqua is water. none is copy of another.11:16
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ratboygnome copies os X ?11:16
mustard5is the 5.10 release candidate, Flash ?11:16
Flashye11:16
Davey775MB11:16
mirakaftertaf: don't know which one copied first. Sometime ago I couldn't use Gnome and prefered KDE. Now it's kind of the opposite11:16
Flashno11:16
ratboyreally don't think so11:16
samu2Ok, so seems breezy is out now. So the official way to upgrade from hoary is to manually edit your repositories and then apt-get dist-upgrade?11:16
Flashit doesnt say anything about rcs11:16
mustard5yk11:16
FlashDISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu11:16
mirakonkarshinde: isn't a Gnome like a kind of little troll ? :D11:16
mustard5yk11:16
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mustard5doh..keep typing y first11:16
FlashDISTRIB_RELEASE=5.1011:16
mustard5too much counterstrike11:16
FlashDISTRIB_CODENAME=breezy11:16
Flashetc.11:16
Flashlike I said11:17
kYotiKhmm11:17
FlashI got it 10 hours ago11:17
Flashmaybe the final was just released11:17
kYotiKand you have 192 updates already?11:17
Flashyeah11:17
Flashlolz11:17
kYotiKno the final wasnt released11:17
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aftertafsounds more like windows..... :)11:17
kYotiKi havent had any updates since yesterday...11:17
kYotiKactually i bet i know what it is11:17
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mirakIs it possible to have samba share appearing on gnome file choosers ?11:17
Flashdamn slow download11:17
Flashlets find some local mirrors later11:17
ECMNhello guys11:17
mustard5so what is the deal with release candidate installs how do they upgrade or do they?11:17
ECMNim back11:18
kYotiKi bet the ISO images were from tuesday night..  and the mirrors were updated on wednesday...11:18
onkarshindemirak: Try Places->Connect to server and mount a samba share.11:18
mustard5do you you just update?11:18
FlashkYotiK: its thursday here now :)11:18
enycflas: thats becausej breezy has just been released11:18
kYotiKhere too11:18
Flashyesterday for me is wednesday11:18
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ECMNanybody know how to set-up the mysql 5 binary in ubuntu?11:18
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kYotiKbut i have 5.10 too and and in USA so...11:18
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onkarshindeFlash: Foe me the same.11:18
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ECMNif somebody knew pls share it to me11:19
xukuncan I upgrade to breezy?11:19
ECMNthanks11:19
mirakonkarshinde: hum, well it appears in the places location, but then I would like to be able to "save as" something in the samba folder directly. I am not sure it's possible without doing a real mount yet11:19
vengefulname me some ftp clients guys11:19
FlashKyoPC: dont know why ive got 192 updates11:19
Flashbut its fine with me11:19
Flashif this solves the problems11:19
kYotiKECMN,  not familiar with that binary in particular, but if its not in the repos, then you probably need to chmod +x mysqlfilename  &&./mysqlfilename11:19
samu2vengeful, gftp11:19
vengefulyeh another..doesnt have many options11:20
ECMNoic tnx11:20
ECMNby the way how many cd ubuntu has? i just got ubuntu from my teacher11:20
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Cicakmanhello11:21
ECMNi want to install some packages but they cannot be found11:21
NgECMN: the install is one disc11:21
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Cicakmani'm using xmms to listen to online streaming radio.... is it possible to save that streaming radio to my harddrive?11:21
onkarshindeECMN: What packages?11:21
staniahmmm11:21
kYotiKFlash: what i am saying is that the final ISO images may have been posted to the website before they actually pushed some more development through.. this happens sometimes with communication probs with the development team and the web admins...   i dont know if that was the problem iin your case or not.. but it may have been..  i havent had no problems with ubuntu 5.10 previous to any of that though.. my gnome has been working in 5.10 for at11:21
kYotiK least a month now.. so i really dont know what your bug is.. its just weird11:21
ECMNthe xchm, php, and mysql11:22
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onkarshindeCicakman: Yes it is possible. Choose disk writer plugin in output plugins. But it saves as wav file whicl will be quite large11:22
FlashI understand11:22
NgCicakman: you might well be able to use its diskwriter output plugin, although that might mean you couldn't listen at the same time11:22
FlashI stopped the update btw11:22
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FlashI want to put in some local mirrors first11:22
Flashdownloading @ 35k is shite11:22
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onkarshindeECMN: Have you enables repositories?11:22
samu2Did anyone update from hoary to breezy yet? How did you do it?11:22
kYotiKFlash: yea its because the repos are hammered right now...11:22
ECMNi followed the instruction in the ubuntuguide.com but the files does not exist11:22
onkarshindeECMN: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and then uncomment the needed lines11:23
ECMNi haven't yet? Do i need to be connected to the net so that those packages will be available?11:23
onkarshindesamu2: Read this11:23
onkarshinde!breezy11:23
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:23
ECMNi'm using ubuntu offline11:23
Myrtti!apt-spy11:24
ubotuMyrtti: Do they come in packets of five?11:24
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onkarshindeECMN: First enable repos. Then connect to net and do 'sudo apt-get update'11:24
samu2onkarshinde, I already read that. Just wondering if that was the official way to upgrade your distro. Seems like such a hack to just change the word hoary into breezy in a few places here and there.11:24
onkarshindeMyrtti: What info do you need?11:24
ECMNoic, that was my guess but i'm not connected to the net so i didn't try it.11:25
ECMNBy the way thans for the help11:25
onkarshindesamu2: It is official way. If you already have CD then you can add the CD to repos. Then you will need to download less packages11:25
Doktoreasguys need help with a problem...11:25
Flashhrm11:25
ECMNi really appreciated it11:25
FlashI dont really like sudo11:25
Flashill just become root to upgrade :)11:25
Myrttiif there is such a package on ubuntu11:25
samu2onkarshinde, ok, I guess I'll give it a shot then.11:25
onkarshindesamu2: Why did you think it wasn't official way?11:26
Doktoreascurrently i run gentoo but i am going to install ubuntu on 3 pc of friends..11:26
enycflas: you may like 'sudo -s'11:26
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kYotiKFlash: are you coming from a RH based distro?11:26
Doktoreasi'd likt to control them via internet but i don't know how can i11:26
Flashenyc: su - works for me11:26
onkarshindeMyrtti: There is no such package. What do you want to do?11:26
FlashkYotiK: im coming from gentoo and debian11:26
Doktoreasjust to update them and install software if they got problem11:26
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enycflas: yes, that involves having a root password...11:26
onkarshindeFlash: root account is not enabled by default in Ubuntu11:26
Doktoreasi thought of ssh but here we all got non static ip11:26
Myrttionkarshinde: to see which ubuntu rep is fastest for me11:26
Flashonkarshinde: I enabled it :P11:27
Myrttibut anyways11:27
NgDoktoreas: ssh and dyndns.org ;)11:27
onkarshindeFlash: Ok11:27
alisherhi, does anyone knows whats up with shipit. I ordered breezy couple of weeks ago, now I have "2005-09-22: 15 CDs (sent to shipping company)"11:27
CicakmanNg, orkashinde: thx.....11:27
wrabbitstill 9 minutes to go... once this kernel is installed, is just a restart required?11:27
samu2onkarshinde, what about hoary-security? Do I change that to breezy-security then?11:27
kYotiKFlash: tell me what you think after you get over this lil bug.. i have used debian quiet a bit.. never liked it until Sarge came out...    now its alright.. but i like Ubuntu a million times better than any of debians releases have been11:27
onkarshindesamu2: Yes.11:27
DoktoreasNg: dyndns can be enabled at boot?11:27
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samu2onkarshinde, and hoary-extras to breezy-extras?11:27
FlashkYotiK: I use debian on my servers11:28
alisherand not only me has same statement, did they still send out hoary?11:28
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sanxiynFlash: Hehe11:28
Flashthe ones I dont have gentoo on :)11:28
Flashim really a gentoo addict11:28
onkarshindesamu2: If you have hoary-backports then comment it. There is no breezy-backports yet.11:28
Flashbut gentoo isnt that great for 'older' configs11:28
Flashunless you wanna wait days at a time to update11:28
samu2onkarshinde, the page you linked to earlier doesn't mention this...11:28
rdw200169so: how much different is the preview from the final?11:28
NgDoktoreas: there are some programs relating to it in ubuntu, I haven't used them, but I expect so - at the worst you could just write your own script to do it :)11:28
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shinuanyone upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10? (wiki says it can be dangerous...)11:29
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onkarshinderdw200169: I suppose there are many differences. You better upgrade11:29
kYotiKFlash: ya know i got gentoo going on my athlon pc after a day of hard work and compiling all the packages..   come to find out it didnt save me that much disk space, and wasnt running any smoother or faster than my ubuntu machine.. then i realized gentoo was pretty much a waste of time in my opinion11:29
[LethAL] shinu, It's out now, so it's not anymore11:29
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onkarshindeshinu: Quite a few people on this channel have upgraded and faced no problem11:29
FlashkYotiK: everyone has his own distro11:29
oralcelcongrats with the release :)11:29
Flashim quite happy with gentoo11:29
rdw200169onkarshinde: oh i BETTER, what if i DONT??? (ha ha ha)11:30
shinuok ill do it then :)11:30
shinuthanks11:30
Flashothers are happy with slack, or fedora, or ubuntu11:30
rdw200169onkarshinde: i'11:30
FlashI can tell you11:30
Flashmy experience with ubuntu so far are shit11:30
rdw200169onkarshinde: i'm kidding11:30
directhex|worki've got a laptop upgraded from hoary to breezy. i was under the impression i should get a splash screen now. instead, i get a message marked "insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/vesafb.ko': No such file or directory" at the start of the boot process. any ideas on eliminating the error (and getting a splash)?11:30
Flashthe simple fact 'its not working' is already reason for me to trow the cd out the window11:30
kYotiKbut who is happy with shit like Suse, turbolinux, linspire, etc11:31
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NgFlash: are you asking for help or just shouting at the wind? ;)11:31
onkarshinderdw200169: Your some media player may crash by some buffer overflow sometime in next 2 year. You will not loose any data other than the playlist if you haven't saved it yet.11:31
rdw200169Flash: that is very harch11:31
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Flashng, asking for help :)11:31
rdw200169Flash: *harsh11:31
FlashI know rdw20016911:31
aftertafdirecthex|work:  odd... add that module to /etc/hotplug/blacklist ?11:31
Flashbut if I fail to even set something simple as network11:31
Flashat least in the way I 'should' do it11:31
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kYotiKi understand they try to make linux "easier"   but everyone is going to have to learn linux.. and those distros are just as hard at learning the CLI as the more powerful distros..11:31
Flashtrue11:32
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Flashbut im now talking about programs simply failing to work11:32
FlashI hope this update solves it11:32
subzero440any tips on how to install fonts?11:32
Madpilot!+fonts11:32
ubotuit has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto11:32
kYotiKwhat programs are failing to work?11:32
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rdw200169onkarshinde: i'm curious as to whether or not an upgrade is a better idea than a clean install, standard configuration wise11:32
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Madpilotsubzero440: see ubotu up a few lines ^^^11:32
samu2whoa, lots of packages to download and install.11:32
FlashkYotiK: the admin programs11:32
aftertafFlash:  try other than gnome if it doesnt..... could be a big b0rk .11:32
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kYotiKFlash are you sudo'ing?11:33
mirakis there Nautilus scripts available somewhere or must we do them ourselves ?11:33
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Flashright now yeah11:33
[LethAL] Flash, you did expert install, didn't you?11:33
FlashI open a console11:33
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Flashnope [LethAL] 11:33
FlashI let ubuntu arrange all for me11:33
Flashas a test11:33
[LethAL] But you can sudo?11:33
Flashfrom console yeah11:33
Flashfrom X no11:33
aftertafkYotiK:  the shortcuts dont work, when they should ask for pw......11:33
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[LethAL] O.O11:33
Flashgtksu is b0rked11:33
onkarshinderdw200169: upgrade if you are not running out of space on / or /usr or /home (if three are different partition). Other wise clean install with some resized partitions.11:33
kYotiKhrmm11:33
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kYotiKi just got a gtksu update here night before last11:34
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wrabbitaftertaf, 2 minutes to go.  Will I have to do anything bar restart once this is completed?11:34
kYotiKthis is making me think that the ISO images arent the "stable" version of breezy11:34
FlashkYotiK: than its probably in between the other 191 updates11:34
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kYotiKyet i had to use those packages myself.. and they had to have worked for me... so this dont make sense11:34
aftertafnope..... normally....   we'll see how it boots after new kernel first11:34
wrabbityup11:35
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aftertafkYotiK:  time to make them, package them synch them. maybe not the stablest of stable ones yet.11:35
wrabbitusually takes 5 minutes to boot up as is11:35
mihaelahello11:35
ECMNis there any site that you can recomend on how to learn linux? i'm very new to linux and the first linux a used was the ubuntu, i use some ebook on unix which i observed quite have similarity commands.11:35
Flashim gonna get some lunch11:35
Flashsee ya later11:35
signiusThere i something really not right with this network configuring because the wireless card can see access points11:35
aftertafECMN:  ubuntu is linux.... ;)11:35
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aftertafok Flash :)11:35
signiusand also how the fuck can i get a terminal in breezy so i can try and see whats realyl going on ?11:35
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DMFDSandmanis there a way to update without reinstalling?11:35
kYotiKgood luck Flash11:36
aftertafsignius:  !!!!11:36
Ngsignius: Applications->Accessories->Terminal11:36
onkarshindesignius: Right click on desktop11:36
Ngonkarshinde: not in breezy11:36
signiuswhy they moved it from system11:36
onkarshindesignius: the way told by is Np will work for sure11:36
Doktoreasanyone can please ceck if in repository are there tool for autoupdate of dyndns...thx!11:37
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wrabbitbrb..11:37
wickedpuppyis it possible to open .chm files in ubuntu ???11:37
C-Keenwickedpuppy: yes you need a chm viewer11:37
C-Keenwickedpuppy: use synaptic to search for one11:37
kYotiKwhats a chm?11:37
C-KeenDoktoreas: use wget11:37
kYotiKwhat program in the MS / OSX worlds?11:37
Trashcanit's built into windows11:37
C-KeenkYotiK: windows help file11:38
TrashcanCHM = compiled help something11:38
kYotiKoh11:38
Trashcancompiled help media maybe11:38
wickedpuppyDoktoreas, there is11:38
Ngcompiled html11:38
Trashcanok11:38
Trashcan:p11:38
Doktoreaswickedpuppy: thank you very much11:38
signiusyeah i got in a terminal now cheers11:38
signiusnow to work out why it cant get any network IPs11:38
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signiusit can see access points so soemthing is working11:38
sexcopter8000mmorning, what is dapper?11:38
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[LethAL] !dapper11:39
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.11:39
crueldragonhi room11:39
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kYotiKwhere does ubuntu get its names?11:39
kYotiKi know debian uses Toy Story names11:39
kYotiKbut whats with ubuntu11:39
Trashcanubuntu is african11:39
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Trashcandebian is from toy story?11:40
[LethAL] Trashcan, he means release names11:40
wickedpuppysid sarge ... and so on11:40
kYotiKwoody sarge buzz sid etc11:40
Trashcanoh..ok11:40
kYotiKyea11:40
wickedpuppythere is also potato11:40
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wickedpuppywaiting for buzz11:40
onkarshindekYotiK: I heard Ubuntu names are dog breeds. Not sure.11:40
wickedpuppydog ? chihuahua11:40
[LethAL] rofl hell no11:40
Trashcanlol11:40
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Trashcannever heard of a dog called a badger11:40
Madpilotonkarshinde: wha? no...11:40
Trashcanor a hedgehog11:40
[LethAL] Or a drake11:41
kYotiKor a badger dog11:41
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Trashcanoh wow11:41
Trashcanafter just installing the w32codecs dealy, it plays wmv11:41
Trashcannice11:41
HiddenFlyis there a shockwave codec?11:41
Madpilotit's just "<adjective> <animal>", and it started from a joke of Mark Shuttleworth's11:41
onkarshindeThat's why I said not sure.11:41
kYotiKim curious as to who comes up with Ubuntu names and where they get them from..11:41
Trashcani figured madpilot11:41
signiuseven though i have activated the card amd given it all the SSID and WEP info on th network connections icon it is only allowing me to choose lo and not eth111:41
wickedpuppyask mark11:41
Madpilotthe "why the odd names" response is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth11:42
DMFDSandmancan you connect without the wep on signius?11:42
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signiusnope11:42
kYotiKi think the names hold a lot of linux old schoolers back... for some reason i heard ubuntu and thought newbie.....  heard hoary hedgehog and thought wtf.....    then i said hell with it im gonna try it... other than the shitbrown theme.. its pretty good11:42
kYotiKheh11:42
DMFDSandmancause i can, but as soon as i try to activate wep it wont let me on11:42
signiusbut i can see access points when i go into the network configuration11:42
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LaschWWill I run into problems using a DVD iso image loop device as a local repository? 2.3GB looks a bit big...11:43
TrashcankYotiK : well ubuntu isn't exactly designed for seasoned veterans11:43
[LethAL] signus, it's propbably because your network is shared/restricted and your adapter is set to open, or vice versa11:43
Trashcanor else they wouldn't have whittled the install down to 3 steps11:43
[LethAL] 3 steps?11:43
Trashcanexaggerating11:43
Trashcani didn't bother to count11:43
[LethAL] Ya11:43
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[LethAL] I use expert anyway11:44
signiusthe WLAN is a managed network11:44
[LethAL] signius, no, the WEP11:44
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signiusi have not changed anything on the WLAN11:44
signiusand i am doing the configuration on breezy the same as i did in hoary11:44
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signiusah11:44
[LethAL] LaschW, 2.3GB is a small DVD ;)11:44
signiushow can i get to them settings ?11:45
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crueldragonhow to play vcd with totem?11:45
zoot_on running: gksudo synaptic, i get the error: Failed to run synaptic as root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. ermmm any clue what this exactly means?11:45
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[LethAL] signius, man ifconfig and man iwconfig :)11:45
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yuachti can't start x since latest upgrade in breezy (yesternight), just gives me a "error 104" and "server caught signal 11"11:45
kYotiKTrashcan,  well it picked my desktop of choice by default... and thats all it installed with no BS, and i pick what i want from the repos and thats what i get.. lets see that happen with other distros, but still stay bleeding edge side of stable...11:45
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LaschW[LethAL] : I have in mind that there was a size limitation for loop devices, _very_ long time ago..11:45
signiusIf i look in hosts it looks like everything is using IPv611:45
[LethAL] zoot_, maybe you ran out of disk space?11:45
tinrawat_mixWho are Thai?11:45
Trashcanyup kyotik, it's pretty badass without all the hours of console work11:45
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signiusi nerver it told to use IPv6 during install11:45
zoot_[LethAL] :  nope, impossible :)11:46
[LethAL] signius, no, it's ipv6 ready11:46
kYotiKTrashcan,  exactly :D11:46
Dreifinger`ziekUbuntu 5.10 Final Release is burned!! :P11:46
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Trashcan'newbie' or not I love it :)11:46
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ghbAny idea why my DVD-ROM only reads at a rate of 500 kb/s? DMA is enabled.11:47
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[LethAL] zoot_, "ls -l .Xauthority" should have rw once in the dashes... check11:47
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Trashcanallow me to ask again: if we're already running breezy preview, do we need to do anything extra or do we just get the updates normally?11:47
[LethAL] Normal updates11:47
Trashcancool cool11:47
kYotiKi think most people who are old school dont like the new easier to install powerful linux distros cuz they remember when linux was hours and hours of hardwork just to get hardware to be recognized by the OS... and we remember nasty XFree configs11:47
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zoot_[LethAL] : hehe, no .Xauthority11:48
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[LethAL] Ah.11:48
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pregoWhen updating to breezy, will my own built (local development) libsomething.a link agains next compilations or do I have to recompile them all? (because of the Gcc-4 change)11:48
kYotiKlots of gurus or whatever ya wanna call em like to show their geekieness... they are the kinda people who like to reinvent the wheel just to say they did something.....11:48
ghbkYotiK: I remember using XFree configuration tool when I tried to install Red Hat 8 or 9 on my old laptop -- it was a pain in the ass!11:48
zoot_now why not - standard breezy install (with updates) .. will hunt for a template.. not an X guru11:48
Trashcanexactly kyotik11:49
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signiusOK i am going to have to give an oppoligy11:50
johnsie2kwhat is the command to install a previously downloaded .deb11:50
signiusi was being a dumb twat with the cisco card11:50
DMFDSandmanwhat was wrong sinius?11:50
[LethAL] !tell johnsie2k about dpkg11:50
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pregojohnsie2k, you may do that with synaptic as well...11:50
signiusbecause its got to external mmx antenna connections it sees to nics when thee is only 1 you have to ignore eth1 and configure eth211:51
DMFDSandmanyou arent using wlan0 with WEP?11:51
Trashcanhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 <-- loollll11:51
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signiusi am hoping by switiching to a cisco aironet card i am not going to have keep patching the frigging kernel every time like on my orinoco card every tiem anything to do with the kernel is done11:52
signiusbecause it was getting very very tedious11:52
sexcopter8000mhey, i'm getting breezy now (:D) via torrent, and it's going about 20k/s. should i be getting better speeds than that??11:52
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signiusin the end i was ignoring secuirty updates to the kernel to avoid having to repatch the kernel every time11:52
sexcopter8000mdoes it work as a funtion of your upload speed?11:52
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DMFDSandmanoh11:52
[LethAL] sexcopter8000m, linux torrents usually max your download speed11:52
Ky0tIkdamn isp........11:52
signiusi downloadd the iso this morning off the main ubuntu site and the speeds were good11:53
[LethAL] sexcopter8000m, although it could be because it's release day11:53
Syrusstmpfs                 375M   13M  363M   4% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile11:53
signiusi thought hey would be bogged down and slow but they werent11:53
Syruss^ does these mean I have a ram drive mounted?11:53
signiuswas very impressed11:53
Syruss(is this normal)?11:53
Syrussthe ubuntu torrents are excellent...well, the cd iso is11:53
wrabbitaftertaf, all done.  Doesn't feel much different though.  I think it's gnome :(11:53
SyrussI was downloading it at 3mbytes/sec at work11:53
Trashcanhaha11:53
Syrussthat's fast.11:53
Dreifinger`ziekpeeps Torrent is slow...11:54
johnsie2kanyone know how to get xlib6g?11:54
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Dreifinger`ziekmy max at torrent was 24kb/s11:54
Dreifinger`ziek:+11:54
Trashcani wish i could seed, but i have the preview iso :(11:54
Dreifinger`ziekthen is normal http mirror faster with 200kb/s :+11:54
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Trashcani got breezy from the mains at 60011:55
Trashcan:o11:55
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[LethAL] I know, I'll login to my friend's torrentflux and get him to get it :)11:55
Dreifinger`ziekTrashcan pm11:55
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Ky0tIkthe mains are usually 400 + but i noticed today they are down to like 65 -7011:55
Trashcanlol11:55
Ky0tIk5.10 is sucking all kinds of users in11:55
TrashcanDreifinger`ziek : i don't see any PMs :o11:56
Trashcanphony!11:56
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Trashcanhey everyone, this guy is a great big phony!11:56
Trashcan;)11:56
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Madpilot643 people here... wow11:57
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sexcopter8000mok, i might just get it off the main site, but i thought i'd be doing the ubuntu team a favour by easing load :P11:57
sexcopter8000mhow can i seed the file once i have it?11:57
Ngsexcopter8000m: just leave your torrent client running11:58
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[LethAL] Download the .torrent and open it as a seeding torrent in you client11:58
[LethAL] your*11:58
Ngor restart the torrent client int he same place if you have to reboot/quit/whatever11:58
sexcopter8000mk11:58
wrabbitMaybe I need to try something other then Gnome.  It seems to be bogging up everything11:58
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Madpilotwrabbit: what are your system specs?11:59
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wrabbitMadpilot, I'm on my Thinkpad T20.  PIII 700mhz 256mb Ram11:59
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wrabbitJust installed the latest kernel and it's not all that much different (if at all)12:00
Crasphmm if i upgrade from hoary to breezy using apt-get distupgrade would that work ok?12:00
signiushow can i edit the apt source list12:00
signiusit saying i cant do it coz i aint got permissions12:00
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NgCrasp: should do, there's a page in the wiki with some general hints about what to check afterwards12:00
deFrysksignius, use sudo12:00
[LethAL] !tell crasp about breezy12:00
[LethAL] :)12:00
Crasp*sigh*12:00
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Madpilotwrabbit: any way of getting more RAM for it?12:00
wrabbitMadpilot, Eventually12:01
Craspoh it's actually usefull12:01
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[LethAL] :)12:01
chaumurkyI'm waiting for my ISP to host it then itdoesn't count towards my quota ;-)12:01
wrabbitMadpilot, You think that's the problem?12:01
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Madpilotwrabbit: more RAM never hurts, and 256 is getting toward the low end for modern OSes12:01
Crasphow can i make sure that my local mirror is using breezy final and not RC?12:02
[LethAL] Crasp, it'll say in the iso's name12:02
wrabbitMadpilot: Guess so.  Win2k works like a breeze on this laptop.  Can't say that about Ubuntu :(12:02
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wrabbitDon't wanna go back to ms though12:02
Ngwrabbit: win2k is also 5 years old ;)12:02
Crasp[LethAL] : you just gave me a link on how to upgrade, so i'm not downloading an iso12:02
wrabbitNg, Yup... good point12:02
ema1Anyone finding evolution crashing on startup with breezy?12:03
wrabbitMaybe I could find an older distro12:03
[LethAL] Crasp, oh, I think the mirrors are updated with the repos, just not the ISOs12:03
wrabbitsimilar to ubuntu but less demanding12:03
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Madpilotwrabbit: you could try the XFCE packages for Ubuntu - Xubuntu, it's called12:03
Crasp[LethAL] : mmkay :)12:03
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[LethAL] !xfce12:03
ubotuxfce is, like, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/12:03
[LethAL] :)12:04
wezzer!breezy12:04
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:04
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ubuguboo!printing12:04
ubotuubuguboo: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:04
ercuevaI was using beta version of ubuntu... now 5.10 is released.... how can I know if I have everything OK with the new version?12:04
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ubuguboo!print12:04
ubotuI haven't a clue, ubuguboo12:04
Madpilot!+printers12:04
ubotusomebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org12:04
Madpilotubuguboo: there you go... ;)12:05
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ubugubooMadpilot thnx12:05
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GNAMNO DVD12:05
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wezzeris there a list of available breezy repositories?12:05
[LethAL] !mirror12:05
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ubotumirror is probably repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive12:05
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[LethAL] wezzer, there ^^12:05
GNAMi think dvd avaible in a week12:05
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wezzerthanks12:05
Trashcan!printing12:05
ubotuprinting is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org12:05
wrabbitMadpilot, I luuuurve gnome.  Just slow.  I'd rather not change anything now but thanks12:05
Trashcanfixed12:05
GNAMavailables12:06
ercuevaI was using ubuntu brezy 5.10... now stable release 5.10, How can I upgrade?12:06
[LethAL] wrabbit, xfce looks quite like Gnoome12:06
Trashcanis kde faster (on average) than gnome?12:06
[LethAL] NO!12:06
Trashcanrgr :)12:06
wrabbitMadpilot, I might go back to win2k until I can get some more ram (or a better lappy12:06
Trashcani prefer gnome anyway12:06
[LethAL] >.<12:06
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[LethAL] Me too12:06
ChousukeThey say KDE needs more RAM12:06
ercuevahow can I upgrade from breezy to stable version?12:06
rohalwell mine is faster than gnome12:06
[LethAL] Maybe if Ubuntu was orginally for KDE, I'd be more inclined to use it :P12:06
GNAMKDE and GNOME = equal shit. KDE better apps12:06
El_CheTrashcan: KDE needs less flashy colours12:06
GNAMimho12:06
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billI have just installed ubuntu and cannot get any sound at all - everything else seems to be working ok - Has anyone a suggestion as to where i should start looking to fix this12:07
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fango[LethAL] , that torrentflux any use?12:07
Chousukewrabbit: try XFCE412:07
[LethAL] !start a desktop war12:07
knubbeercueva: sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:07
ubotufvwm is much better than gnome!12:07
[LethAL] fango, Yeah, it's a nice client12:07
Chousukefvwm isn't comparable to gnome12:07
Chousuke:P12:07
Trashcanxfce... *googles*12:07
ercuevaknubbe, thanks, I'll try12:07
wrabbitChousuke, I've been trying all day to get things working and running ok.  That'd take way too much effort to learn how12:07
rohalwhy the debian room seems dead...this one is much more active...12:07
[LethAL] fango, I thikn his IP's changed :(12:07
Chousukewrabbit: not really :/12:07
Chousukewrabbit: xfce is simple and cute.12:08
lorenzodAah, fvwm (those were the days..)12:08
ChousukeThough I hate the rat!12:08
[LethAL] rohal, because the debian guys know how to use their PC's :P12:08
Trashcanxfce is nice12:08
Trashcanlooks nice*12:08
Trashcani want wobbly windows :D12:08
[LethAL] xfce would be nicer for me if I could strecth the panel12:08
Chousukeinstall luminocity :P12:08
dexturIs it possible to upgrade an existing ubuntu install? I just cant find the docs...12:08
Chousuke!breezy12:08
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:08
Ngknubbe: pipes?!12:08
rohal[LethAL] : that means gentoo guys do not know how to use there pc's...thats why they r most active?12:08
signiusok ive worked out how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list in vi but i cant work out how to exit and save the changes12:08
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Trashcanchousuke: i doub't it will run on my lappy :(12:08
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dexturthanks ubotu12:08
Trashcanno hardware acceleration12:08
signiuscan anyone assist please ?12:08
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knubbeNg: no, my bad.12:09
ChousukeTrashcan: xfce4?12:09
[LethAL] rohal, I'm not suprised, gentoo is hard12:09
ChousukeTrashcan: how much RAM=12:09
Trashcani'm lookin at it12:09
Chousuke?*12:09
Ngknubbe: ;)12:09
Trashcanhalf a gig12:09
Chousukehah12:09
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Chousukethat's way enough for even KDE12:09
wrabbitChousuke, ha! lol12:09
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Chousuke:P12:09
Crubesignius did you open it with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:09
Trashcan:p12:09
wrabbitoh wait.. typo12:09
rohal[LethAL] : harder than debian.....12:09
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knubbeercueva: correction: first "sudo apt-get update" the "sudo apt-get upgrade" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:09
ChousukeXFCE4 needs like 128MB12:09
Trashcanit all runs fine12:09
Trashcani'm just trying to optimize12:09
Trashcanthe ati drivers don't work on the rage mobility12:09
Chousukeno need, really. :p12:09
Trashcanso i don't get any acceleration12:09
signiusno i did suso su then opened it with vi /etc/apt/sources/list12:10
Trashcandragging and resizing windows lags terribly12:10
wrabbitIsn't there a way to just optimize gnome so that it doesn't do all the flashy stuff?12:10
signiussudo even12:10
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wrabbitThere has to be a guide.  I'll search for "tweaking gnome"12:10
rohalgentoo doesnt have such a big community as ubuntu or debian...still have u ever seen them at the second place in the room list......12:10
ChousukeTrashcan: there exist free X.org drivers for rage :(12:10
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Trashcan:O12:10
Trashcan:O12:10
Chousukeyou do not need ATi drivers.12:10
Trashcani must have them!12:10
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Chousukewell, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :P12:11
wrabbitWhich browser do you all use?  Firefox is takin ages to load12:11
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Chousukeand select them.12:11
rohal[LethAL] : i cant understand how the hell that #gentoo manages to get highest no. of users..12:11
DMFDSandmananyone know why my wireless card would work with no security, but as soon as i enable 128bit WEP it wont connect?12:11
signiusdoes anyone know how to exit and save in vi ?12:11
Protequewrabbit: I use opera12:11
Chousukesignius: :wq12:11
twilightwrabbit, gnome?try epiphany12:11
signiusthanks12:11
[LethAL] rohal, because you have to compile everything, and that makes it fast12:11
wrabbitWill try both12:11
wrabbitcheers12:11
[LethAL] rohal, but I'm told the package management owns12:11
Ng[LethAL] : package management? hehe ;)12:12
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=== Trashcan <3 apt-get
[LethAL] Ng, Yeah, it compiles source for you12:12
signiusHmmm thats just writing it in the text file12:12
Chousuke[LethAL] : the compiling doesn't give you any real benefits :P12:12
billsignius  :q to quit vi and save    :q! to quit without saving12:12
rohal[LethAL] : package management of debian is better than gentoo...i hve heard so...12:12
Chousuke[LethAL] : Debian packages are compiled with -O212:12
Ng[LethAL] : that's hardly package management and isn't very useful :)12:12
signiusniether of them get me out of vi12:12
TrashcanChousuke : theres no 'rage' in the list12:12
Trashcan:(12:12
Ngsignius: hit escape first12:12
[LethAL] signius, press esc first then12:12
signiusits just writing :q into the text document12:12
ChousukeTrashcan: try "ati"12:12
signiusok12:12
Trashcanthat's what it was using already12:12
Ngsignius: vi has two modes, insert and command. escape puts you into command mode so things like :wq work12:12
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wrabbitHow do i install it? apt-get install epiphany?12:13
Chousukeyep12:13
wrabbitwow.... that was off the top of my head.  I AM learning! :P12:13
aftertafwrabbit:  any better?12:13
twilightno :)12:13
twilightepiphany-browser wrabbit12:13
wrabbitnot really aftertaf ... still groggy12:13
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wrabbitah, thanks twilight  ;)12:13
rohal[LethAL] : if u feel gentoo is better...than why r u not on gentt?12:13
Madpilotwrabbit: stick "sudo" in front of that, you'll have a winner12:14
wrabbitaftertaf, At times12:14
ercuevaI did sudo apt-get update upgrade and dist-upgrade everything is fine...12:14
wrabbitHa! Oh.. so I was way off12:14
wrabbitalrighty12:14
[LethAL] rohal, I never said it was better12:14
signiuswow i need a crash course in using vi me thinks12:14
ercuevahow can I be sure that I am with the new version...12:14
ercueva?12:14
[LethAL] signius, you could use nano instead :P12:14
Trashcansignius : lol, vi is commpllexxx12:14
Trashcannot for the faint of heart12:14
rohal[LethAL] : then which one u feel is better?12:14
Trashcanbut when you master it, it's one of the most powerful text editors12:14
ercuevaHow can I know I am using ubuntu 5.10 stable version?12:15
[LethAL] rohal, I haven't tried gentoo myself, so I can't answer that12:15
intelikeyuname -a12:15
C-Keenercueva: have a look at your apt sources12:15
wrabbitinstalling now12:15
rohal[LethAL] :for gentoo u need to give time....else that's the best distro to really learn linux..12:15
wrabbithaha.. 4 minutes12:15
signiusi like mc12:15
[LethAL] ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent617.2 MBrouge12:15
[LethAL] 0.1% @ 10.8 kB/s12:15
[LethAL] 12:15
[LethAL] 12:15
[LethAL] 9 hour 03 min 29 sec12:15
[LethAL] :)12:15
[LethAL] Ooops12:15
wrabbit'Oh well... 500 dollars for this notebook isn't all bad12:15
signiusbut i couldnt get them until i had edited the frigging source lists12:15
[LethAL] Didn't mean to flood :P12:15
ercuevaC-Keen, is there any standar apt sources that I could copy ?12:15
[LethAL] !tell ercueva about repos12:16
rohal[LethAL] :if u were in gentoo room right now...then u must have been kicked for this..12:16
C-Keenercueva: easiest way to do so is to use synaptic?12:16
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Trashcanusing vesa drivers now12:17
Trashcan:o12:17
wrabbitaftertaf, I'll see how things go after I get 512mb ram all up.  Should run better.12:17
ercuevaC-Keen, is that the "visual" version of apt?12:17
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Trashcanbahhh12:17
C-Keenercueva: it is the gtk-gui yes12:17
brownie17aftertaf, i fixed it, i just reinstalled windows. :) do you mind helping me restore grub now?12:17
ercuevaC-Keen, sorry I am a bit rookie...:(12:17
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Trashcanwhen i run glxgears, it runs fine (fast!) for about 3 seconds12:17
rohalhas anyone of u used sharescan in windows?12:17
C-Keenercueva: no problem at all12:17
Trashcanthen it drops to maybe 1fps12:17
C-Keenercueva: it should be under System->Adminsomething->Synaptic package manager12:18
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[LethAL] Trashcan, odd, mine does run fast, it seems to limit itself now, but it doesnt do what yours does12:18
[LethAL] doesn't*12:18
Trashcanit makes me sad12:18
Trashcan:(12:18
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Trashcan(baby jesus too)12:18
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brownie17!grub12:18
ubotuit has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:18
wrabbit!blub12:18
ubotuwrabbit: What?12:18
RedGhost1 hour left on d/l noo :'(12:19
erickGuys question can I add fonts on my abiword12:19
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wrabbit!blub12:19
larsbjarI have installed Ubuntu breezy on my mac mini, but as soon as the system is running, the screen flashes for a second and goes dead. What can I do?12:19
shinuhow can i install mozilla-mplayer without mplayer-386? i already compiled my own mplayer here.12:19
Trashcanlars: does it drop to text mode?12:19
dansthi my dmesg does not work anymore! I only have old entries! syslogd und klogd are running! where's the problem??? please help12:19
C-Keenshinu: you can't12:19
danstme12:19
larsbjarno12:19
Trashcanouch12:19
Trashcanno idea12:19
C-Keenshinu: not without fiddling with the mozilla-mplayer .deb yourself12:19
shinuugly :/12:19
brownie17aftertaf, you there?12:20
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brownie17anyone feel like giving me a really quick walkthrough on grub?12:20
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larsbjarTrashcan,  I dont see anything. Seems as the monitor frequency is wrong or something12:20
shinuC-Keen: ill try and do that maybe12:20
Trashcanthat's no good12:20
Trashcancan you hook it up to a CRT12:21
larsbjar:)12:21
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larsbjarits on a CRT as it is12:21
pigetahi12:21
Trashcanoh boy12:21
pigetai'm12:21
pigetanew12:21
erchachei upgrade my server to breezy and has dependeces error on dist-upgrade...12:21
brownie17!fstab12:21
ubotubrownie17: Are you on ritalin?12:21
Trashcani thought it was a lappy :)12:21
erchachehow i can solve it?12:21
larsbjarI on a lappy now to get help :)12:22
Trashcanhehe12:22
Trashcani have no idea, sorry12:22
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larsbjarcrap12:22
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ubuguboo!+fstab12:22
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, ubuguboo12:22
Trashcanhey seveas12:22
Seveasoia12:22
SeveasParty time :)12:22
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Seveaswoah -- 652 people in here12:22
Seveas*653 - hi Fergy :)12:22
Trashcan:)12:22
larsbjarreinstall?12:22
brownie17i am havnig trouble restoring grub12:23
intelikeylarsbjar you can try [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]   to console mode and login    reconfigure x with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  [alt] +[f7]     and  x can be reset with  [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace] 12:23
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Trashcanif it's something like that larsbjar, it's probably not going to be fixed with a reinstall12:23
wrabbitinteresting :) Epiphany really does load up faster12:23
brownie17can someone help me restore grub, i am having trouble12:23
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signiusLookslike the gb backports urls in the apt sources lists are broken12:23
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C-Keenbrownie17: dpkg-reconfigure grub?12:23
larsbjarok... I will try12:23
signiusthats fantastic on the first day a product is released12:23
intelikeytake notes larsbjar12:23
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larsbjarsure :) thanks12:24
Renskiaaaaaarrrrrggghhh12:24
brownie17C-Keen, i installed windows, now i want to insert it at MBR again.12:24
Renskiits the 13th today, isnt it?12:24
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Trashcanyessir12:24
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Renskiare the iso up yet?!!?12:24
Trashcanpeople are already torrenting12:24
otephello all, is there an option on the breezy installer to just 'upgrade' an existing ubuntu installation?12:25
Renskican I get a url?12:25
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brownie17can anybody help me restore grub at MBR? i am having problems12:25
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intelikeyhmmm i'd say my clock had drifted "step time server 81.210.144.100 offset 35964.100965 sec"12:26
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C-Keenbrownie17: you want to insert window's mbr or what?12:26
Trashcanlolol12:27
intelikeybrownie17 sudo grub-install12:27
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brownie17C-Keen, no, GRUB. i installed windows and it works, but it dominates the MBR, now i want to put grub back on. there is a guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but i am having trouble following it12:27
larsbjarintelikey, ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt do much. when do I push this? sorry.... Im in way over my head :(12:27
brownie17intelikey, are you sure? the wiki gives me a much more involved proccess12:27
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C-Keenbrownie17: boot from CD, use the cd's grub to boot from disk, then do the grub-install thing12:27
NotHerebrosioz: can you boot ubuntu somehow?12:27
brownie17intelikey, i am on livecd sudo: grub-install: command not found12:28
intelikeybrownie17 for a simple reinstall of grub to mbr  yes12:28
NotHerebrownie17 I mean12:28
intelikeyoh12:28
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Flashhmm12:28
brownie17NotHere, i am on ubuntu livecd now12:28
C-Keenbrownie17: not live cd...boot your installed linux12:28
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brownie17C-Keen, don't know how12:28
intelikeyok pivot root to the installed root and do that brownie1712:28
C-Keenbrownie17: it will tell you at boot up...12:28
Renskihey, can someone get me a link to the bit-torrent? I have an E1 here.12:28
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larsbjarintelikey, ctrl+alt+f1 when do I push this?12:29
C-Keenbrownie17: or alternatively mount your hard disk. go in that directory. do a sudo chroot .12:29
brownie17intelikey, how do i "pivot root the the installed root"?12:29
NotHerebrownie17: boot in some rescue mode, mount your ubuntu partitions under /somedir and then do chroot /somedir/. After that you run grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever your disk is) and you are ok12:29
C-Keenbrownie17: and the runt grub-install12:29
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tuxuntuHello! I have a problem. After upgrading to Breezy from Hoary, my umlauts are not working anymore...12:29
tuxuntuAnyone with an idea?12:29
NotHerebrownie17: you can do that with the live cd too...12:29
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SillyConeis it possible to install kernel source without internet connection?12:29
C-Keentuxuntu: dpkg-reconfigure locales12:29
brownie17C-Keen, NotHere intelikey three people telling me what to do, i am geting really confused, can someone PM me?12:30
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FlashSillyCone: if you can find it on the CD yeah12:30
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larsbjar:( i cant see12:30
SillyConeI'm trying to install ndiswrapper to get online and it requires kernel source12:30
C-Keenbrownie17: I will stop talking to you now.12:30
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brownie17C-Keen, didn't mean to offend you12:30
intelikeylarsbjar that is to switch from gui "X" to cli "console"  you have about 6 login consoles  f1-f6 and f7 is for gui12:30
SillyConeFlash: do u know where on CD it is?12:30
Flashif you have the cd in your reps12:30
brownie17intelikey, can you please tell me in really simple terms, exactly what i should type in?12:30
wrabbitSillyCone, make sure you use the winxp drivers12:30
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Flashyou can use apt-get install kernel-source to install it12:30
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tuxuntuC-Keen, i've done that. I want an en_US locale but a swiss german charset. How do I do that?12:31
intelikeybrownie17 what problem exactly do you have at boot time ?12:31
SillyConeok, thanks12:31
larsbjarokay, intelikey , but when? after bootup or during?12:31
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intelikeyafter the screen goes blank larsbjar12:31
brownie17intelikey, i installed windows, and now GRUB is gone. i want to bring it back. i am having trouble following the guide12:32
larsbjarok :)12:32
tuxuntuC-Keen, there is also an error when I'm trying to start gnome, about a possible bug in libxklavier...12:32
Renskidoes ubuntu release i586 isos?12:32
Ngno12:32
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NotHereit would be nice if the installation cd had a recovery mode with some options like "reinstall grub"...12:32
nightswimit's called a shell12:33
Renskican someone get me a bit link? Id rather not leech off ubuntu.12:33
Cody`to get the udpate do I change all hoary's in apt sources to breezy?12:33
nightswimso in a way it's already there12:33
intelikeyok  how about you boot the live cd and at the boot prompt type root=/dev/hd<where-ever-ub_is>   brown12:33
intelikeyhmmmm12:33
Flashreinstalling the grub isnt that hard12:33
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NotHerenightswim: not really the same thing :>12:33
nightswimRenski: the torrent is on http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/12:33
larsbjar[ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  dont do anything to my dead screen. I reinstall and pray...12:33
Trashcanis there a list of window managers somewhere?12:33
nightswimNotHere: it's a really powerful recovery mode :>12:33
Cody`to get the udpate do I change all hoary's in apt sources to breezy?12:33
Renskinightswim: ah, the torrents are with the rest of the files.. my mistake. Thank you12:34
intelikeylars one more thing first.12:34
larsbjarokay12:34
nightswimRenski: yeah they are, not every mirror holds the torrents yet I believe, but this one does12:34
intelikeylarsbjar try booting with this options  "linux vga=0 1 "   and if that boots you to a console that you can work from well try to fix it   k12:35
[LethAL] Trashcan, yeah, in synaptic12:35
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Trashcannice, thanks12:35
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johnsie2kJust wanna say... BBC news desktop alerts works nicely with wine12:36
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intelikeyif not it didn't coust much larsbjar12:36
intelikeycost12:36
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larsbjarwill do. intelikey thanks. Amazing support in here :) I will be back later12:36
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intelikeyhehhe ok12:37
wezzeroh shit12:37
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dejothi12:37
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wezzerI'm trying to upgrade hoary to breezy and apt-get dist-upgrade says this:12:37
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intelikeyi should go support a distro i use...... ;/12:37
joelitohow those downloads doing?12:37
dejotive got a problem with my breezy installation12:37
wezzerE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.12:37
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dejotthe nvidia driver doesn't work12:37
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lamer1I'm trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy but my system reboots when trying to upgrade postfix package ? Did anyone had this kind of problem ???12:38
brownie17how do i acces my fstab?12:38
dejotnvidia-glx installed, "nv" -> "nvidia" => XServer doesn't start, just a black screen, no Console12:38
dejotbrowniel17: sudo nano /etc/ftab12:38
wezzerpls help: http://pastebin.com/39209312:39
wezzerwhat to do?12:39
Bergcube*Snicker*  Downloading the 5.10 ISO with bittorrent.  160 KBps...... Oh happy day!12:39
SillyConeFlash, i do have the CD in the repositories, but if i do apt-get install kernel-source, it says that it cannot find it12:39
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brownie17dejot, should i be able to do that from livecd?12:39
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larsbjarwhile I12:40
Flashfinally12:40
wezzerdoes anyone have any ideas on that?12:40
Flashthe upgrade is almost done12:40
brownie17intelikey, are you still there? sorry about that. i still need help restoring GRUB. can you help me?12:40
dejotbrowniel17: yep, just mount your existing partition and then you can access the fstab12:40
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intelikeybrownie17 i'll sure try12:40
brownie17dejot, but i need fstab to know the name of the partition12:40
brownie17intelikey, pm? or in here?12:41
intelikeyhere12:41
larsbjarwhile I'm here... Is there a way to search for computers on my local network, all and specific ones?12:41
intelikeyi beep on pm12:41
brownie17intelikey, ok, well what should i type?12:41
intelikeylars man nmap12:41
dejotbrowniel17: ?12:41
brownie17dejot, don't worry12:42
tuxuntularsbjar, nmap 192.168.1.* -sP ;)12:42
intelikeytell me what you have running brownie1712:42
BockBilbohey12:42
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brownie17intelikey, ubuntu hoary with BASH and the standard gnome-terminal emulation. i am using LIVECD12:42
intelikeyyou on live cd ?12:42
intelikeyok12:42
SillyConeHow to install kernel source without an internet connection?\12:42
shermanatorSillyCone, why without an internet connection? your on the net atm12:43
intelikeydo you have other os's  windows...  on your system brownie17  ?12:43
SillyConeim on my windows laptop12:43
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brownie17intelikey, yes, RE-installing windows was what removed GRUB from the MBR12:43
BockBilbodoes anyone here have problems when trying to listen to the sound in flash animations using firefox and the flashplayer-mozilla plugin? When i try to listen to a song, firefox freezes... i use breezy and did the symlink to libesd.so.0 or whatever was its name12:43
BockBilbo...12:43
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brownie17intelikey, windows is allready in my GRUB menu.lst though, so no problems there12:44
[LethAL] BockBilbo, I just use the plugin when I hit a flash site :)12:44
intelikeyk  yeah i should have put that togather...  sorry. brownie17 type fdisk -l for a list of partitions12:44
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wrabbitcheers for the help all.  Time to get some more ram me thinks.12:44
BockBilbo[LethAL] , but does it freeze ff?12:44
wrabbitcya all12:44
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wezzerdamn12:44
[LethAL] BockBilbo, nope12:44
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brownie17intelikey, yep, want them through #flood?12:44
wezzerI have problems with depedencies12:44
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_oshupgrading is just doing a "s/hoary/breezy/g" on apt-sources isn't it?12:45
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intelikeybrownie17 find the partition with ub installed and give me it.12:45
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wezzerwhat should I do now?12:45
BockBilbo[LethAL] , try this site: http://www.goikoetxeta.com and try to play any song on the music player on the left12:45
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brownie17intelikey,  i think hdb112:45
BockBilbotell me if you hear it12:45
Trashcanman, the repos are gettin hammered!12:45
Trashcan20ks12:45
Trashcank/s*12:45
Trashcandown to 13 :p12:45
Taliesin`235KB/sec here, from a auth'd repo :>12:45
intelikeybrownie17 ok sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media12:46
[LethAL] BockBilbo, :-(12:46
BockBilbo[LethAL] , what?12:46
[LethAL] No music12:46
brownie17intelikey, done12:46
marcus^*downloading breezy live cd :D*12:46
BockBilbo[LethAL] , did you press the play button?12:46
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[LethAL] BockBilbo, ya12:46
intelikeybrownie17 ls /media and see if it looks like a buuntu /12:46
[LethAL] BockBilbo, I'll try a flash player on another site12:47
BockBilbommm [LethAL]  it sould sound..12:47
BockBilbo*should12:47
brownie17intelikey, yeah, exactly12:47
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intelikeybrownie17 ok cd /media12:47
brownie17intelikey, done12:47
BockBilbo[LethAL] , try this: http://musicplayer.sourceforge.net/12:48
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intelikeybrownie17 usr/sbin/pivot<tab_key>   and see if it finishes the name for you12:48
wezzerErrors were encountered while processing:12:48
wezzer /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.8.2-32_all.deb12:48
wezzer /var/cache/apt/archives/libx11-6_1%3a6.2.1+cvs.20050615-3_i386.deb12:48
[LethAL] BockBilbo, ff hung when I asked for a new page :S12:48
wezzerwhat should I do?12:48
[LethAL] Stop pasting?12:48
johnsie2khow do i find my local ip address?12:48
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brownie17intelikey, just beeps12:48
[LethAL] johnsie2k, ifconfig12:48
bimberijohnsie2k: ip a12:49
[LethAL] Or that12:49
BockBilbo[LethAL] , so ff gets frozen, right?12:49
bimberior that :)12:49
[LethAL] Yeah, but that was after I'd left the page :S12:49
johnsie2kcheers12:49
BockBilboyeah12:49
ompaulthis will be fast http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/5.10/ <<--- they have more bandwidth than most12:49
BockBilbothats because you pressed the play button12:49
intelikeybrownie17 k try sbin/pivot<tab>    cause i'm not sure where ub puts it.12:49
BockBilboand it made a conflict with the sound12:49
brownie17intelikey, beeps12:49
[LethAL] Ah12:50
intelikeyon a whim try it with no address12:50
intelikeyit may be on the cd too12:50
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intelikeyoh i think ub beeps if there are more than one also try 2 tab key strokes on that brownie1712:51
Trashcanxfce is...interesting12:51
Trashcanback to gnome for me ;)12:51
brownie17intelikey, i tried just "pivot" and pressed tab and it completed it to "pivot_root"12:51
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brownie17intelikey, i tried pressing two tab strokes for both, it didn't work12:52
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intelikeyok add this to the command line there  .  ./media/cdrom12:52
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intelikeyand execute it.12:53
brownie17intelikey i dont understand12:53
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Trashcangood ol' gnome12:53
intelikeybrownie17 sudo pivot_root .  ./media/cdrom12:53
johnnybezakhey whens breezy released must be a matter of hours hey?12:53
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Ngjohnnybezak: it's out :)12:53
brownie17intelikey, "pivot_root: No such file or directory"12:54
brownie17johnnybezak, it is released i think12:54
marcus^downloading live CD at 497kb/s :D12:54
johnnybezakNg: haha that'll learn me for using slashdot as a news source :P12:54
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brownie17marcus^, FAST! what speed internet you got?12:54
CaiN_SAmarcus^, shush this line is going max 5kb/s12:54
marcus^4000/40012:54
CaiN_SA:(12:54
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brownie17CaiN_SA, my max is 20, :)12:55
brownie17CaiN_SA, :( ***12:55
CrubeMines 20012:55
marcus^Telenor in Norway. im downloading form a Swedish server i guess (se.ubuntulinux.org or something)12:55
intelikey<brownie17> intelikey, i tried just "pivot" and pressed tab and it completed it to "pivot_root" <---- that means it was in your path some place   so in the media dir i had you cd into do this   sudo pivot_root .  ./media/cdrom12:55
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jhankare your sources so damn slow too?12:55
wezzerHello all12:55
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wezzermy problem is this: http://pastebin.com/39209812:56
wezzerI'm trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy12:56
aftertafanyone know when ubuntu 6.10 will be released?? gurning guppy?12:56
brownie17intelikey, my mistake, accdiently left /media. it is done. it worked now12:56
wezzerand I'm out of ideas12:56
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jhankwezzer in april 200612:56
jhankafiaik12:56
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brownie17aftertaf, hahaha breezy came out like 5 hours ago!12:56
wezzerjhank: what?12:56
brownie17aftertaf, you allready getting impatient?12:56
intelikeynow brownie17 just sudo grub-install12:56
Taliesin`my local apt-repo is already cranked up and updated, took me 2 mins to grab all teh dist-upgrade files :D12:57
CzarAlexOkay. Whats the console command to upgrade from hoary to breezy? I'll take the dive into the unknown.12:57
Taliesin`(CzarAlex): apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade12:57
brownie17intelikey, "Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device"12:57
intelikeynow brownie17 just sudo grub-install /dev/hda12:57
CzarAlexTaliesin`, alrighty.12:57
sayanBREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZY12:58
intelikeythe mbr of course.12:58
ompaulaftertaf, year 2006 month 10, but I thought you knew that12:58
sJaMI wanted to boot from the ubuntu install 386 Breezy cd for the server I just got and I get "kernel corrupt or invalid"12:58
sJaMtried with my laptop got the same message12:58
sJaMmd5 checksums are the same12:58
CzarAlexTaliesin`, the mirromax.net repositories didnt work. is that okay?12:58
brownie17intelikey, allrighty, i think it worked. i will try a restart, then ill come bac and tell you if it worked12:58
[LethAL] sJaM, you borked the CD then12:58
[LethAL] :P12:58
sJaMborked ?12:58
marcus^94% downloaded ;)12:59
intelikeybrown sudo init 612:59
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intelikeythat will reboot12:59
brownie17marcus^, took me about 5 hours12:59
[LethAL] sJaM, grab the torrent, unborkable download... then You have to trust your PC to burn it well12:59
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marcus^brownie17: hehe12:59
marcus^97%12:59
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sJaMwhat is unborkable ?12:59
[LethAL] Not a real word :D01:00
Trashcanbork = break01:00
CzarAlexsJaM, that really hot girl in yer gym class.01:00
poningruyou cant break it01:00
marcus^99%01:00
jhankhas nayone got experiences installing skype on breezy?01:00
marcus^100% !!! yeah!01:00
[LethAL] !skype01:00
ubotuI heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:00
[LethAL] ;)01:00
sJaMI don't have gym01:00
marcus^hooray01:00
poningrumarcus^: breazy?01:00
CzarAlexsJaM, bummer01:00
sJaMbut I already downloaded it via bittorrent01:00
jhankthanks01:00
marcus^breezy yes01:00
BergcubesJaM~  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bork01:00
[LethAL] sJaM, Oh, burn the ISO again then01:00
detI'm surprised it hasnt hit /. yet01:00
sayanlist01:00
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marcus^*getting a empty cd*01:01
sJaMperhaps it has something to do with the fact that I have to -force it in k3b01:01
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CzarAlexuh oh. apt-get dist-upgrade gave me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:01
Trashcanahhhhhhhh 3 hours to download kde, no way01:01
[LethAL] sJaM, yeah, that doesn't help01:01
Trashcanstop downloading breezy guys :p01:01
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[LethAL] CzarAlex, sudo apt-get update01:01
[LethAL] :P01:01
CzarAlex[LethAL] , First thing I did. hmmm.01:01
[LethAL] :(01:02
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Trashcanwhat's the line to re-enable cd in the sources.list?01:02
CzarAlex[LethAL] , there were a couple 404's flying by01:02
[LethAL] O.o01:02
marcus^download from the swedish site :P01:02
[LethAL] Try a different !mirror01:02
marcus^Swedish people are at work or school now01:02
CzarAlex[LethAL] , it was a lot of the mirrormax.net sites.01:02
[LethAL] So are most British people01:03
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[LethAL] CzarAlex, iirc mirrormax stopped mirroring Ubuntu01:03
Trashcan:( anyone?01:03
[LethAL] ?01:03
CzarAlex[LethAL] , okay so that isnt my issue then, any idea what is?01:03
Trashcanneed to reenable the cd as a source01:03
Trashcansources.list01:03
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[LethAL] apt-cdrom possibly01:03
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[LethAL] CzarAlex, use a new mirror...01:04
intelikeyapt-setup01:04
CzarAlex[LethAL] , where can I find one to use? and do I add that to my sources list?01:04
[LethAL] !tell CzarAlex -about mirror01:04
marcus^*burning Ubuntu on  CD* :D01:04
Trashcan:D01:04
SillyConeWhat's an average speed when downloading from official repositories? Because I'm getting ~30kB/s01:04
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[LethAL] SillyCone, well I get 240 from the GB repos :)01:05
CzarAlex[LethAL] , thanks01:05
[LethAL] 240kbps that is01:05
[LethAL] CzarAlex, np :)01:05
Trashcanthanks intelikey !01:05
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SillyConehow come my speed is so low?01:05
marcus^a guy on my hosting co says that the desktop Linux distributions isnt secure by default.. is this right?01:05
intelikeynp01:05
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TrashcanSillyCone : because everyone and their mother's brother's uncle's former roommate is downloading01:05
[LethAL] marcus^, well they don't come with a setup firewall01:06
SillyConeTrashcan, :)01:06
Seveasmarcus^, it's bullshit01:06
[LethAL] marcus^, And if they said anything about passwords, shadow passwords has changed that01:06
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intelikeyG i'm glad i'm not in that list   8*?01:06
marcus^yes, i hope they are encrypted at least01:06
Seveasmarcus^, Ubuntu is secure by default. point.01:06
[LethAL] marcus^, only root can read then :)01:06
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[LethAL] them*01:07
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marcus^ok01:07
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jgbwhere does the colony naming come from?01:07
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marcus^OMG.. burn process failed01:09
reikiok I just woke up and I'm sorry if this has been asked, but are there posted directions for simply upgrading from Hoary to Breezy? (If so it might be helpful to put that in the topic)01:09
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SillyConeis the root password the same as my normal account password?01:10
[LethAL] !breezy01:10
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade01:10
[LethAL] SillyCone, root is disabled01:10
linuxboycan I make my own .iso file for breezy with jigdo? I have fast access toa mirror01:10
jgbis colony-1 the final release?01:10
intelikeymarcus^ actualy the security of linux distrobutions varies greatly depending on distro/release and install method,  but in a nut shell.  he's right.   however even at that they are on avarage more secure than "thatotherdows" default install01:10
bimberiSillyCone: root is disabled and you use sudo for superuser access01:10
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bimberiubotu tell SillyCone about root01:10
marcus^intelikey: so when i install ubuntu server, i dont have to worry about security?01:11
SillyConeyes, I know, but when I type sudo and it asks for password ... should I type my regular account password?01:11
[LethAL] Yes01:11
ratboyyup01:11
SillyConeok, thanks01:11
ratboyhey dudes01:11
[LethAL] Hewwo01:11
jgbmarcus^ : erm, you always have to worry about security01:11
CzarAlexcan someone paste me a copy of their sources.list so I can properly upgrade to breezy?01:11
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Seveas!tell CzarAlex about sources01:11
marcus^jgb: yes, but what should i do?01:12
brownie17intelikey, it didn't work, but what we did remade my GRUB menu.lst, so i have to re-enter windows. is hda1 hd(0,0)?01:12
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marcus^jgb: i know i shall change passwords01:12
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CzarAlexSeveas, do I need hoary sources to upgrade to breezy?01:12
[LethAL] brownie17, yes01:12
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timalothello?01:12
brownie17!winmac_fstab01:12
ubotubrownie17: Are you on ritalin?01:12
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SeveasCzarAlex, no...01:12
brownie17!windows01:12
ubotu[windows]  Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative01:12
jgbmarcus^: hire a security guy if your server is worth it01:12
Seveas!ntfs01:12
ubotuI guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.01:12
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intelikeybrownie17 yeah01:12
CzarAlexSeveas, thank you.01:12
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brownie17Seveas, thanks01:13
marcin_anthi guys - pretty naive question - if I got breezy and updated my apt - then do I have the same packages as in current release or do I need to change something in aps sources list?01:13
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timalotcan i update to ubuntu 5.10 from breezey colony install using the update manager?01:13
intelikeybrownie17 didn't work ?01:13
dooglustimalot: yes01:13
brownie17intelikey, GRUB was there, but windows wasn't in it.01:13
timalotcheers... 540 odd packages to download01:13
knjtimalot: I upgraded to Breezy via. apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday :)01:14
knjtimalot: Just update /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade01:14
intelikeyah well adding the windows part to the list should be easy enough01:14
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu Upgrading? read http://tinyurl.com/b3akz | Release Parties! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseParty
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BreiteSeitegri!01:15
timalotthanks... i've been waiting for this release,  before continuing to update packages01:15
BreiteSeitegru01:15
brownie17intelikey, how do i access the fstab again?01:15
Seveas!de01:15
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe01:15
intelikeybrownie17 access ?  like read     or write ?01:15
brownie17intelikey, write01:16
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intelikeybrownie17 sudo nano /etc/fstab01:16
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timalotproblem is ubuntu is going so good already... i don't want to break anything by upgrading... i guess they are mostly fixes01:17
marcin_antwhat should I add to apt/sources.list to update to breezy?01:17
CzarAlexCan I leave this upgrade unattended or will I have to hit Y ever so often?01:17
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Seveasmarcin_ant, /topic01:17
intelikeyi was thinking access    hmmm cat /etc/fstab       edit sudo nano /etc/fstab      or just  touch /etc/fstab would be accessing it but i cant think of why you would need to touch it......01:17
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SeveasCzarAlex, depends01:17
CzarAlexSeveas, great..01:18
[LethAL] Ah! 666 peoples!01:18
Seveasif you manually changed config files, it WILL need your attention01:18
knjmarcin_ant: You should change all "hoary" to "breezy". Then run "apt-get update", "apt-get dist-upgrade".01:18
CzarAlexSeveas, hmm. okay. thanks.01:18
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samu2I think there should be a button to automatically update to breezy in synaptic or something.01:18
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knjsamu2: Haha, good idea :)01:19
Seveassamu2, often requested feature -- maybe some day soon it'll be there01:19
[LethAL] or better, instead of having release names in sources.list have stable, testing etc :P01:19
Seveas[LethAL] , I hate that01:19
intelikeydeb ?01:19
[LethAL] :(01:19
knjDont think Microsoft have such a feature. "upgrade to windows vista"... "Please enter your card number" :)01:19
Seveasit defies the concept of 'stable'01:19
[LethAL] rofl knj01:20
Seveassuddenly you stable install gets a gig of updates...01:20
samu2Not that it was hard to change all hoary to breezy, but it just seems like a hacker thing to do to manually change it.01:20
samu2Like it's a workaround for doing it, and not the intended way.01:20
knjSeveas: Maybe it would be better to make a clean reinstall by downloading the ISO?? :)01:20
Seveasknj, for windows it would, for ubuntu not :)01:21
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knjsamu2: I did it yesterday and that worked just fine :) Just go to a prompt and type "nano /etc/apt/sources.list", change it and run the two apt-commands :)01:21
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samu2knj, I'm already upgrading right now. Did it through synaptic though.01:22
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samu2But it still felt like I was hacking the system to upgrade it, and not doing it in a controlled way.01:22
mahanguis there a problem with breezy and thinkpas?01:22
knjsamu2: I didnt dare to do it via synaptic... What happens if it tries to delete/update my Gnome while it is running? Then it will close gnome and kill synaptic????01:23
Trashcan16 hours to KDE, yessssssss01:23
lhbwell, that is suppose to be one of the beautiful things about apt01:23
larsbjarintelikey, I still dont get have screen on Ubuntu. [ctrl] +[alt] +[any f-key]  doesnt seem to affect. And I lost the tips from earlier... bah01:23
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SeveasTrashcan, you can still cancel :)01:23
Trashcanhehe01:23
Seveasdon't go to the dark side :)01:23
mahanguSeveas, thinkpad and breezy? ive seen some neg comments in here01:24
intelikeyor maybe a distro-upgrade script that rewrites /etc/apt/sources.list with the propper url's and runs the two commands for you....01:24
Seveasmahangu, thinkpad+breezy works fine01:24
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mahanguSeveas, cool will upgrade01:24
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mahangujust change hoary to breezy01:24
Trashcani'm just looking for a little refreshing change01:24
mahanguthen apt-get dist-upgrade?01:24
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Trashcani tried xfce... it sucks01:24
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Trashcanlol seveas, nice01:24
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larsbjarhard to operate without a screen :(01:25
Trashcan:p01:25
knjI am running Thinkpad R51 and Breezy right now :)01:25
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Trashcanno it isn't01:25
Trashcanjust enable text to speech01:25
mahanguknj, cool, so t42 should be fin ehe?01:25
Trashcanand you are good to go :D01:25
[LethAL] rofl01:25
larsbjar?? joke ?01:25
michaeldoes anyone know about Ubuntu posters that I could print to announce 5.10 to the 500+ students that live in my building?01:25
Trashcanyes ;)01:25
knjmahangu: I ran hoary on R31 too... I am sure it will work fine.01:25
timalotfor name in [list of files that needed to be changed]  ; do cat $name |sed s/hoary/breezy/g > tmp; mv tmp $name ; done01:25
albackerguys, i change the default runlevel to 3 in /etc/inittab, and next time il login i stil see the gdm.. how can i get a terminal-login ?!01:25
intelikeylarsbjar if booting with options vga=0 0 doesnt give you a console screen  i have serious doubts about getting linux to work with that display hardware.01:26
gdhhullo :) Just a quick question... if I open a text file with gEdit by Places-Network Browser... it opens in read-only mode even though the remote smb share is read/write -- if I open it with openoffice writer instead, I can save to the file. any ideas?01:26
mahanguso just hoary to breezy01:26
El_Chealbacker: diasble gdm01:26
mahanguand apt-get dist-upgrade?01:26
mahangui wanna do it in parts, the upgrade01:26
knjmahangu: If you are making a clean install you should run the vga-boot-command to be sure to not get any problems with your laptop monitor though. Run something like "linux vga=773"01:26
mahangucan i do that?01:26
GNAMDVDs ?01:26
albackerEl_Che, how ?01:26
knjWidescreens fails if you dont do that.... My other laptop did :)01:26
mahanguknj, hoary works fine with this vga01:26
Seveastimalot, sed -i :)01:26
GNAMas for hoary, DVDs after a week01:26
dooglustimalot: do you know about the --in-place option to 'sed'?01:26
dooglusSeveas: snap :)01:27
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El_Chealbacker: from gnome in the run service gui prog01:27
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timalotno01:27
[LethAL] Where can I get a list of numbers to put in the vga=### boot option?01:27
knjmahangu: Not saying that it is a problem... I just experienced it once or so :)01:27
larsbjarintelikey, who said option vga 0 0? And its a very standard CRT01:27
El_Chealbacker: from commandline with upodate-rc.d01:27
timalotdooglus01:27
Seveas[LethAL] , google ;)01:27
timalotno01:27
dooglustimalot: stops you having to use >tmp; mv...01:27
[LethAL] Seveas, I tried some time ago...01:27
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mahangui might wait till i get my breezy cds01:27
El_Chealbacker: if you are lazy, put exit 0 on top of /etc/init.d/gdm01:27
knjLethAL: Google something like "vga=773"... That is 1024x768 anyway :)01:27
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mahangu200mb is a lot over this connection01:27
dooglustimalot: allows sed to edit the file in place, without using a temp file.  -i is the same.  "man sed"01:27
elfredo[LethAL]  man lilo.conf01:27
Seveas[LethAL] , sec. I'll have beagle search my history :)01:27
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[LethAL] elfredo, I can't imagine why that's not working for me :D01:28
timalotah ok , all those wasted characters i used to type....01:28
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intelikeyhmmm i said options vga=0 0 at boot    so you could see how to fix things.... larsbjar01:28
dooglustimalot: admit it - you just learnt something and you love it.01:28
elfredo[LethAL]  grub user eh? :)01:28
timalotheah i am lazy01:28
[LethAL] elfredo, yeah, makes life easy :P01:28
elfredoheh you wish :)01:29
intelikeylarsbjar if i understood you correctly you had a blank vidio01:29
larsbjarsorry there... how do i set this option then01:29
dooglusthere's a trade-off though.  you can be too lazy to learn how to be properly lazy.01:29
dooglusthat's what windows users do01:29
Flashjust to let you guys know01:29
Flashthe upgrade solved all my probs01:29
timalotso yeah it's a good thing01:29
Seveas[LethAL] , http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html01:29
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Seveasyou can use the 0x numbers01:30
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[LethAL] Thanks :D01:30
sudonimWhen I am upgrading, it is telling me I dont have a default locale - is this normal?01:30
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albackerEl_Che, how can i do it without putin exit 0 in /etc/init.d/gdm ? im not finding it in the gnome-control-center.. the place to disable gdm01:30
intelikeyat the grub prompt [esc]  E     E to edit the line for your linux kernel larsbjar "assuming grub"01:30
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timalotyeah in the long run it's worth it01:30
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Seveassudonim, yes, this can happen during massive updates01:30
matteohi guys01:30
matteoany Italian?01:30
intelikeylarsbjar first tell me01:30
CrackersKeenanso, I'm sure this has been asked, but has anyone spotted problems with upgrades from hoary to breezy?  In particular, sound problems?01:31
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larsbjarall yours01:31
Seveas!it01:31
ubotuitaliano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)01:31
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larsbjargrub yes01:31
intelikeydo you have any console exp ?01:31
larsbjarconsole exp?01:31
[LethAL] Seveas, It doesn't mention 1280x960 and I don't have an LCD...01:31
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intelikeyare you new to linux   experence01:31
rafa#ubuntu01:32
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larsbjarnew01:32
Seveas[LethAL] , then google on for another page ;)01:32
RockyBurthm, i just noticed that there is an update to gnome-power-manager available for breezy... but its still using an old very of gnome-power-manager (0.1.2)01:32
elfredo[LethAL]  1280x960 is no VGA mode, therefore unsupported01:32
larsbjarI only get to the boot loader. after that, screen goes out01:32
[LethAL] :(01:33
Belial-there's still no install/live DVD01:33
Seveas...yet01:33
Seveasthere will be one :)01:33
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Belial-seveas: how soon?01:33
Seveasnoidea01:33
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intelikeylarsbjar try at the boot prompt [esc]   E    select the line that is ubuntu and E to edit it  then where it says  vga=<blah>  set to vga=0   and  B to boot01:34
Belial-is it possible to burn the bootable install CD iso on a DVD-R?01:35
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larsbjarok01:35
intelikeyk01:35
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mahanguBelial-, shoould be able to mate01:36
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doogluswhich package is /usr/bin/md5sum in?01:36
Belial-mahangu: k thanks . guess I won't have to wait for the combo DVD then01:36
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intelikeymd5sum01:37
dooglusE: Couldn't find package md5sum01:37
KamionBelial-: there is - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/01:37
mahanguafter breezy installs will it boot the new kernel automatically?01:37
[LethAL] gb.archive.ubuntu.com appears to be down :(01:37
rdw200169wow, i can print in crossover office :)01:37
LoRedooglus: dpkg -S /usr/bin/md5sum01:37
KamionBelial-: I'll link it from releases.ubuntu.com when I get a chance01:37
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Belial-Kamion: ok great thanks01:37
KamionBelial-: releases.ubuntu.com didn't have the space for DVD images - was causing mirroring problems01:38
intelikeydooglus learn apt-cache find <blah>         use  "man apt-cache"  to learn more about it.01:38
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timalotpackages.ubuntu.com01:38
intelikeysorry its search not find01:38
KenSentMeintelikey, it's apt-cache search etc.01:38
intelikeyapt-cache search md5sum01:38
El_Chealbacker: at work I have gnome 2.8 on solaris, so i can not check, but i guess system-configuration editor01:39
GNAMazz01:39
KamionBelial-: yes, you can burn a CD image onto a DVD-R, although personally I think that's a bit of a waste unless you're using DVD-RWs01:39
GNAMDVD's OUT!01:39
marcin_antsooo it's pretty strange but I already have breezy - no new packages in apt so it seems that it is breezy01:39
KenSentMeintelikey: , sorry, too late01:39
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marcin_antsoooo my question is - what is default firewall solution for ubuntu?01:39
Belial-Kamion: all out of CD-R:s .. and I've got a couple of hundred DVD-R:s01:39
WinZFriends, what must be in sources.list now? After releasing breezy01:39
intelikeyhehhe  you can catch me on the next blunder KenSentMe :)01:39
albackerEl_Che,  and how can i start it from a terminal ?01:39
KamionGNAM: about 4 hours and 20 minutes ago, yes ;)01:40
poningrumarcin_ant: just like all linux01:40
dooglusintelikey: I don't think that helps much.  "apt-cache search md5sum" lists 5 packages which don't seem to contain /usr/bin/md5sum.  and "apt-cache search /usr/bin/md5sum" lists nothing01:40
poningruiptables01:40
albackerEl_Che,  the system configuration...01:40
mahanguafter breezy installs will it boot the new kernel automatically?01:40
Belial-Kamion: guess I'll get the DVD version now though01:40
KenSentMeintelikey: i was surprised i could actually correct someone right here, and then i'm too late01:40
Kamiondooglus: it's in coreutils; dpkg diverts it into place in an odd way01:40
Kamiondooglus: it used to be in dpkg01:40
[LethAL] mahangu, if you use grub, yes, but you'll have o reboot yourself ;)01:40
dooglusKamion: I know it used to be in dpkg.  It still is, in fact.01:40
larsbjarintelikey, Feeling really stupid here. Where do I get the boot prompt? Ah01:41
dooglusbut the version in dpkg is different than the version on my disk.01:41
Kamiondooglus: not in breezy it isn't01:41
LoRedooglus: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search /usr/bin/md5sum; if you dont have md5sum installed01:41
johnnybezakwow apt is *slow* atm :)01:41
Kamion<cjwatson@riva ~>$ dpkg -c /mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.13.10ubuntu4_i386.deb | grep md5sum01:41
Kamion<cjwatson@riva ~>$01:41
LoRedooglus: if it is installed: dpkg -S /usr/bin/md5sum to find out from which package01:41
timalotjust go to packages.ubuntu.com and save your self some trouble01:42
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Kamiondooglus: it's in coreutils, installed as /usr/bin/md5sum.textutils and diverted into place01:42
tzfardeahello i have a problem with my ubuntu01:42
intelikeyit should be the first thing on the screen after bios larsbjar      remember to press [esc] 01:42
tzfardeai installed it yesterday01:42
tzfardeaand something like every hour or 2 hours this happend:01:42
tzfardeahttp://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8669/screenshot8yz.png01:42
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larsbjarI dont get any bios on my screen afaik. Pressing esc on startup dont do much here01:43
gdhOK another lame question.. How can I make Totem play WMV? I have w32codecs already installed and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse with no joy - any advice?01:43
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dooglusKamion: what's this "diverted" thing?  I don't see it explained in dpkg(1)01:43
Kamiondooglus: dpkg-divert(8)01:44
dooglusaah, ok.01:44
marcin_antponingru: well I know iptables are in almost every Linux01:44
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Belial-gdh: videolan can play some wmvs01:44
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tzfardeasomeone know what's the problem?01:44
dooglusKamion: that should be in dpkg(1)'s "SEE ALSO" I would say01:44
marcin_antponingru: but my question was about default iptables-frontend solution01:44
marcin_antponingru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Firewalls01:44
MaTaKshow to run clamav antivirus?01:44
gdhBelial-: Yep, I wanted to try thing 'the GNOME way' :)01:44
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intelikeylarsbjar i'm sorry, i'm going to have to hand you off to someone else.  i have to go now.   good luck with it.01:44
Belial-gdh: heh k01:44
gdhBelial-: The actual content I can play in mplayer if I need to :)01:44
snarfdoes cedega work well in amd64 ubuntu?01:44
marcin_antponingru: one of the breezy goals01:44
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Kamiondooglus: mm, possibly. it's a bit advanced compared to even the dpkg man page01:44
larsbjarok thanx01:45
Kamionbut maybe01:45
intelikeygooday every one.01:45
MaTaKshow to run clamav antivirus?01:45
marcin_anthmm so no firewall frontend in breezy (firestarter not in main repo)01:45
tzfardeasomeone can help me please?01:45
wezzeroh no, I have big problems now01:45
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marcin_antthen what about NetworkManager? not ready too?01:45
wezzerpython2.3-imaging won't uninstall until python2.4-imaging installs and vice versa01:46
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poningrumarcin_ant: sorry what was the question?01:46
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poningrumarcin_ant: firestarter is in the main repo01:46
poningruerr restricted I think01:46
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dooglusis there any way to get the update to run 'lilo' for me after it upgrades the kernel?  if it doesn't, then I can't boot ubuntu afterwards and have to use a rescue CD01:47
Jedrickhow to run clamav antivirus/01:47
wezzeroh man, my ubuntu is really messed up now01:47
mahanguwhoa01:47
marcin_antponingru: no it's not in main repo - shorewall is in main01:47
mahanguim gonna wait for the cd01:47
poningru!tell Jedrick about clamav01:47
poningruwtf01:48
Cavallohi01:48
larsbjarI have installed Ubuntu breezy on a mac mini, and I know people have done this before. But when kernel is started, screen flashes for a second, and my CRT screen says the prequency is way too low (15Hz or something). Pressing [esc]  on startup gives yaboot bootmanager.... boot:  What do I do?01:48
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poningru!info clamaav01:48
Jedrick!info clamaav01:49
Jedrick!info clamav01:49
tzfardeatzfardea hello i have a problem with my ubuntu01:49
tzfardeatzfardea i installed it yesterday01:49
tzfardeatzfardea and something like every hour or 2 hours this happend:01:49
tzfardeatzfardea http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8669/screenshot8yz.png01:49
ubotuclamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.87-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 188 kB01:49
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poningrumarcin_ant: yeah you are right its not in restricted01:49
tzfardeasomeone? :\01:49
poningruits in universe01:49
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sayanBREEEEEEEEEEEEEEZYY01:49
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poningruwoah01:49
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poningrutzfardea: what vid card is it?01:49
elfredotzfardea looks like your xserver crashed01:50
nacho_estas?01:50
Kamiondooglus: I thought it did that already01:50
tzfardeaumm.. i got geforce 6200 TM01:50
Kamionlarsbjar: try video=ofonly01:50
Kamionmaybe?01:50
marcin_anthmm don't get me wrong but how ubuntu-devel guys decide where they tag something 'release' is breezy released because of the release date or because it is really ready to release?01:50
Kamiondooglus: provided you have an /etc/lilo.conf, that is01:51
marcin_antor maybe they needed a reason to party or something?01:51
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JaivazOf course, we're all nerds.01:51
Kamionmarcin_ant: both; if there'd been a real showstopper, we'd have delayed, but we try very very hard not to (and haven't yet)01:51
GNULinuxermarcin_ant: don't think so01:51
Jaivaz:-P01:51
and_have problems with breezy live cd : user creation fails if estonian is choosed little bit more in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=406492#post406492 and similar bug in kubuntu in here http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=914901:51
GNULinuxermarcin_ant: i guess the packages are all tested ok01:51
luitemarcin_ant: you have to release sometime, otherwise you'd get a debian-like release schedule ;)01:52
larsbjarKamion, on it01:52
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prowerI think it's probably important to mention that Canonical seems to focus and pay attention to quality issues rather closely...I doubt they'd make a release if there was something seriously wrong with it just because it's the day they set out on :>01:52
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larsbjarKamion, I get the same as ever... blablabla.. \\video=ofonly: No such file or directory01:53
GNULinuxerprower: i agree01:53
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Kamionlarsbjar: video=ofonly appended to the normal boot argument. If this is the installer, 'install video=ofonly'; if it's an installed system, 'Linux video=ofonly'.01:53
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larsbjarok :)01:54
marcin_antGNULinuxer: ok they are buildable and it's cool but I don't see big difference on desktop between hoary and breezy01:54
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ratboyheya dudes01:54
ratboyanyone heard of a cool newsgrabber ?01:54
GNULinuxermarcin_ant: that's the same difference between gnome 2.10 & 2.1201:55
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ratboypan is sloow01:55
C-Keenslrn01:55
Kamionprower: we do get stricter and stricter about what counts as a showstopper as release day approaches, but even at the end there's still the possibility of a showstopper; we have delayed non-final releases before due to serious problems01:55
marcin_antmaybe I'm just a little disappointed because I see the same bugs in gnome all the time01:55
larsbjarwow :) I got a screen, funny colors, but still.... Do I need to do this every time or is it now permanent?01:55
GNULinuxermarcin_ant: like?01:55
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wolfseyeHi. I have a question. I just installed Kubuntu 5.10 and would like to know how I can get things like PROFTPD and those, or I do I have to use VSFTP ?01:55
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GNULinuxerwolfseye: apt-get install proftpd01:56
marcin_antGNULinuxer: first of all I really hate all these 'display/rendering/whatever' bugs01:56
apokryphosKamion: Kubuntu still not available from releases.ubuntu.com? Is it still syncing?01:56
wolfseyeand Programms like KVirc, are they not anymore in the released ?01:56
wolfseyei remember them of old KDE releases01:56
GNULinuxermarcin_ant: what bugs? are they filed?01:56
marcin_antGNULinuxer: these are gtk or widget or gtk-engines bugs01:56
Kamionprower: e.g. http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-March/005326.html01:56
marcin_antGNULinuxer: yes most of them I think01:57
seliniumIs there a stright upgrade from Hoary to Breezy64bit?01:57
apokryphoswolfseye: it's not an official kde app, and not even in extragear, but it's in ubuntu's repos01:57
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apokryphosselinium: hoary 32-bit, that is? No.01:57
wolfseyeand PROFTPD is not to get via apt-get, I tried it. It doesnt find it01:57
marcin_antGNULinuxer: mainly there are problems with transparency in gtk themes and things like this01:57
marcin_antGNULinuxer: another thing are gnome features01:57
seliniumHI apokryphos, ok I will sort it out later then! :)01:57
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GNULinuxermarcin_ant: hmm ... but that's a GNOME issue ... nothing to do with Ubuntu01:57
RedGhostdl done, installing 5.10 :D01:57
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C-Keenwolfseye: it is available01:58
C-Keenwolfseye: maybe you need to include multiverses01:58
apokryphosit's in Universe01:58
Flashhmm01:58
marcin_antGNULinuxer: we have breezy and still no beagle in main repo01:58
Flashwireless is working to01:58
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Flashnot bad01:58
loogahow can i get programs such as gimp to always open up in full screen when i am in gui?01:58
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C-Keenwolfseye: proftpd - Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon01:58
snarfubuntu doesnt work with my touchpad :(01:58
GNULinuxermarcin_ant: is mono in the main repo?01:58
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Kamionapokryphos: there've been some mirroring problems, still being resolved01:58
marcin_antGNULinuxer: and we still don't have global indexing/search feature in Yelp01:58
wolfseyeC-Keen: How do I do that ? Sorry, noob in Linux ;)01:58
Kamionapokryphos: you may find it's on some mirrors but not others01:59
C-Keenwolfseye: open synaptic01:59
pinucsetone think, i havent received any new packet today :S01:59
wolfseyegot it opem01:59
apokryphosalrighty01:59
marcin_antGNULinuxer: still no NetworkManager or another nice network management tool for 'dumb users'01:59
apokryphos!tell wolfseye about repositories01:59
C-Keenwolfseye: under Settings -> Sources..01:59
RockyBurtgrr... ok, my current f-spot on ubuntu/breezy is usless, freezes on import of pics01:59
marcin_antGNULinuxer: and still any firewall solution installed by default with breezy01:59
Kamionmarcin_ant: we're not going to start delaying for feature enhancements that don't make the cut, I'm afraid.02:00
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GNULinuxermarcin_ant: Kamion is right02:00
RockyBurtKamion: i use fire-starter on ubuntu (apt-get install fire-starter) ... works quite nicely02:00
wolfseyeok C-Keen, and now ?02:00
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RockyBurtmarcin_ant: i use fire-starter on ubuntu (apt-get install fire-starter) ... works quite nicely02:00
RockyBurtsorry02:00
paulproteusFor what it's worth, http://paulproteus.acm.jhu.edu/ubuntu-5.10/ has torrents |  has the Ubuntu 5.10 torrents.  Feel free to put it in the topic.02:00
wolfseyeHi02:00
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C-Keenwolfseye: add a repository -> check the last two checkboxes (universe / multiverse)02:01
C-Keenclick ok02:01
marcin_antRockyBurt: 1. yes I know that firestarter is nice - but that's all02:01
C-Keenrefresh and search again02:01
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marcin_antRockyBurt: 2. firestarter is not in main breezy repo - so user has to know about this tool to install and use02:01
Kamionmarcin_ant: some people find that objectionable, but we feel it's better to guarantee people a six-month cycle so that (among many other things) they know that if a feature doesn't make this release then it's not the end of the world02:01
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Kamiona firewalling tool is not a showstopper, because no ports are open by default anyway, so any servers you install you presumably intended to use02:02
marcin_antRockyBurt: 3. try to use firestarter with more than 2 NIC's and then you will see that this tool is nice but nothing more yet02:02
Kamionit's a nice-to-have, but we can afford time to do it right02:02
_mindspinwhat about fwbuilder?02:02
pinucsetone think, i havent received any new packet today, why? :S02:02
onkarshindeAnybodu who has done clean install of breezy. Does it automatically add your remainig partition to Computer section?02:02
_mindspindoes anyone know which version is included in breezy??02:02
Seveaspinucset, breezy is released - stable.02:02
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Seveas!info fwbuilder breezy02:03
Kamion_mindspin:  fwbuilder |    2.0.7-1 | breezy/universe | source, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc02:03
ubotufwbuilder: (Firewall administration tool GUI), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.7-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1157 kB, Installed size: 3576 kB02:03
daloydoyanyone here successful with dot matrix printers?02:03
_mindspinthats fine02:03
timalotnice02:03
snarfanyone know if the programs magic and spice are in breezy, universe, whateververse?02:03
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apokryphossnarf: packages.ubuntu.com02:04
onkarshindesnarf: Search here. packages.ubuntu.com02:04
snarfcool, thanks02:04
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marcin_antKamion: so you just want to keep up with release date - and it is not much important that there are bugs in default ubuntu desktop (gnome) that are older than me ;) ?02:04
ozHello all02:04
oz i want to thank those that helped me get my dvd's to play on Ubuntu breezy02:05
marcin_antKamion: anyway I don't want to 'troll' here ;)02:05
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ozNow I have just one problem to solve and that is02:05
why-oh-whyHiya!02:05
why-oh-whyAnyone have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)?02:05
why-oh-whyI wanna shit on my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)!02:05
ozI have an nvidia fx 5200 PCI not AGp card on the system02:05
ozI need to get this to work.02:05
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timalotno driver?02:05
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Kamionmarcin_ant: that's a deliberately pejorative description of the process; yes, sticking to a release schedule is important to us; nevertheless we endeavour to fix as many bugs as possible, while recognising that it is never possible to fix everything and if you wait until you do then you'll never release anything02:05
marcin_antKamion: I'm trying to fill bug report when I got some time - unfortunately I'm not C developer so I cannot fix them02:05
oz I know that I will have to disable the intel video drivers but I need step by step on this one02:05
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why-oh-whyHiya!02:06
why-oh-whyI wanna shit on my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)!02:06
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marcin_antKamion: and Breezy is really nice so I'm happy that there is such thing02:06
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marcin_antKamion: but I'm still a little dissapointed that things move forward so slow02:06
apokryphoswhy-oh-why: language please02:06
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onkarshindemarcin_ant: What is your PC configuration?02:07
loogado you guys know how to tweak ubuntu so that (some selected) programs always open up in maximized window (fullscreen) mode?02:07
ozthanks again for the help in getting dvd's to play on Breezy02:07
apokryphoswhy-oh-why: and go to #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter02:07
ozI had to dodge the badger a bit but it works fine02:07
wolfseyeC-Keen, qry...02:07
ozcan someone help me with my nvidia card PCI not AGP/02:08
ivarso, I've read the upgrade instructions... i'm quite short on diskspace. how do I purge the deprecated warty packages after the upgrade is done ?02:08
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TerminXivar: apt-get autoclean02:09
ivarTerminX, cool. thanks02:09
Kamionapt-get autoclean doesn't remove packages02:09
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BiSK-8hello02:09
TerminXit removes the actual files02:09
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Kamionyou need to look for obsolete packages with a package manager to do that02:10
TerminXwhich is what I thought he meant02:10
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BiSK-8in the topic i read: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu but the link wont work02:10
b0nkb0nkhi02:10
loogaTerminX: without autoclean, unused/unnecessary warty packages will remain on an upgraded breezy computer?02:10
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TerminXI dunno, it's 5 AM and I've been up all night, I think I read it wrong :)02:10
KamionBiSK-8: works for me, redirects to http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000038.html02:10
ivarKamion, how does one determine if a package is obsolete ?02:10
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TerminXlooga: files in /var/cache/apt/archives02:10
b0nkb0nkSeveas: are ya awake?02:10
loogawhat's that about?02:10
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Kamionivar: depends on the package manager. I'm a dselect-using dinosaur, so I look for the "Obsolete/Local Packages" section02:11
loogaTerminX: what's that .../apt/archives about?02:11
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Kamionivar: there aren't that many packages from warty that will remain following an upgrade, though02:11
BiSK-8thx kamion02:11
TerminXlooga: it's where debs go when retrieved by apt02:11
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allanHello. Is there any place I could check if a pcmcia Wireless card is working with Ubuntu - I wanna buy a new one but I'd like to make sure it works?02:11
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allansomething like a Hardware compability list or sth02:12
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ivarKamion,  ok thanks.. it's just that diskspace is a major issue for me right now.02:12
loogaTerminX: i just checked my  /var/cache/apt/archives, are these files still in use?02:12
BiSK-8kamion: btw, the new distro of breezy, is it better than the 1 i downloaded 2 weeks ago?02:12
ivarhas anyone measured diskspace usage of breezy vs. warty ?02:12
irvinBiSK-8, yes it is02:12
KamionBiSK-8: various bugs fixed. you can upgrade to the release rather than having to download whole new CD sets02:12
Belial-BiSK-8: apt-get dist-upgrade02:12
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TerminXlooga: they're never in use unless you're installing the package ;p02:13
TerminXapt-get clean will remove all of them, apt-get autoclean will remove everything that isn't the current version IIRC02:13
loogaCan someone tell me: after upgrading to breezy, what happens to all the packages that were in use in hoary, but not used anymore in breezy? are they automatically removed/uninstalled?02:13
js_archive.ubuntu.com is quite loaded, no?02:14
BiSK-8belial- i know, but i want it on my other hdd...02:14
BiSK-8+ i want the install disk 2 add to my collection02:14
Kamionlooga: depends whether anything conflicts with them. in general no, but in general we try to avoid gratuitously renaming packages, so ...02:14
BiSK-8^^02:14
BiSK-8thx02:14
loogaKamion: so......?02:14
loogaKamion: i'm a newbie. i'm slow. please help me connect your dots.02:14
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Kamionlooga: if the package has the same name in breezy as in hoary, it will totally replace the old version02:15
loogaKamion:gotcha02:15
allanbtw does Ubuntu and Debian use the same apt-get sources and do they both run the same .deb packs ?02:15
apokryphoslooga: you can also use deborphan and debfoster for seeing if you have unused libraries/packages02:15
Kamionlooga: it's only if a package is renamed, or deprecated completely (which is relatively rare) that the old package can stay around02:15
loogakamion, so there's no need for what TerminX's telling: autoclean and clean?02:15
apokryphosallan: they use the same apt system, but not the same apt sources02:15
Belial-Kamion: hoary packages are compiled with gcc 3.3.x? the C++ ABI changed so some binaries might not be compatible?02:15
Kamionallan: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/document_view02:15
DanomanAre there any different between yesterdays 5.10 rc and the released 5.10 ?02:15
KamionBelial-: correct02:15
TerminXlooga: autoclean and clean don't uninstall packages02:16
apokryphosDanoman: yes02:16
allanKamion: thx02:16
TerminXthey remove the debs for old packages02:16
KamionDanoman: yes, one week's stabilisation02:16
apokryphosDanoman: the RC is the release candidate released some time ago; the ones now are the shiny new Breezy ISOs02:16
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apokryphosDanoman: of course you can just use apt to upgrade your system rather than re-downloading the new ISO02:16
Kamionwhich involved a number of changes02:16
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Kamionapokryphos: FWIW, I do see the Kubuntu release on releases.u.c from here02:17
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apokryphosKamion: interesting; I'm getting a straight timeout on r.u.c now02:18
Kamionapokryphos: it's extremely busy02:18
Seveas!info  p0rn-comfort02:18
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Seveas!info  p0rn-comfort breezy02:18
Seveashehe the bot is not yet updated :)02:18
apokryphoscan imagine; and it's not slashdoted yet even 8)02:19
Kamionthankyou slashdot for small mercies02:19
apokryphosSeveas: doubt he would be; haven't seen cafuego around today yet02:19
Seveasapokryphos, ever heard of crontab? ;)02:19
Prof_FrinkSlashdotting == good for the torrents02:20
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Kamionoh well, better than the 4.10 preview, where it was nearly impossible to do any work in the datacentre for two or three days afterwards02:20
apokryphosSeveas: blootbots never cease to amaze me =)02:20
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athlonnow that breezy is out, does that mean  ubuntu is once again synchronized with debian's repo ? iow, can I add sarge repo to my sources.list and expect most things to work fine ?02:21
Seveasathlon, no02:21
loogaTerminX: what then do autoclean and clean do?02:22
jhankseveas: i was using your deb-source to install skype... it worked without any errors, but it takes ages until it has started... do you have an idea?02:22
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athlonSeveas,  ouch, so whats the problem ?02:22
Seveasjhank, no, I don't use skype myself02:22
apokryphosjhank: skype takes notoriously long to start up unfortunately02:22
TerminXlooga: I told you, they remove the debs for old packages02:22
loogaTerminX: sorry .02:23
jhanksowhy is that?02:23
Seveasathlon, mixinf them is unneccessary and can lead to problems...02:23
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Jedrickhelp pls.. how to configure shorewall?02:23
loogaTerminX:  so debs from old packages aren't automatically removed?02:23
TerminXright.02:23
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loogaTerminX:  is there a reason to keep debs from old packages+02:23
looga?02:23
liableJedrick: theres great docs at there website..02:23
satafterhwhat that command for disrto upgraade02:23
apokryphoslooga: you can use apt to remove them; see man apt-get02:23
Danomananyone else than me that had problems with playing mp3 i xxms under rc 5.10? The songs are lagging?02:23
apokryphossatafterh: /topic02:24
loogasatafterh: please read and follow the topic02:24
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Jedrickye but its so complicated.. im a newbie on linux i need someone to guide me :)02:24
TerminXlooga: not really, unless you're running the devel branch02:24
jhankapokryphos do you know why that is the case in skype or what it doesn't load my contactlist on 1st start?02:24
bubuwhat do I do if my superuser passwd isnt accepted02:24
loogaTerminX: do you recommend i do clean and autoclean before, after, or both before and after i upgrade to breezy?02:25
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apokryphosjhank: haven't heard of that before I'm afraid02:25
TerminXyou said you were low on disk space?02:25
loogaTerminX: are you talking to me?02:25
TerminXyes..02:25
jhankapokryphos you mean the contactlist issue?02:25
apokryphosyes02:25
bouili have a strange problem. I have burned breezy, i have checked the MD5 on the cd (on two differents readers), but when i try to install it to an empty pc, i got an installation error. Complaining about bad md5 for linux-restricted-modules and nvida-kernel-module....02:25
loogai have disk space, but even if i have 1,0000000000000 gigabytes, i want all the space that i can have.02:26
loogaTerminX: see above line.02:26
Jedrickliable: what's the links for the shorewall site pls02:26
jhankapokryphos i'm wondering when skype will release a version which works properly ;)02:26
apokryphoslooga: then remove all distributions :P02:26
Seveasjhank, when pigs fly02:26
TerminXwell, if you don't mind redownloading a package in the rare circumstance you may need to reinstall it, run apt-get clean regularly :p02:26
liableJedrick: cmon dude, google, jesus.02:27
bouildid somebody know how to resolve my problem.. ?02:27
Seveaslooga, or set Apt::Get::Autoclean02:27
apokryphoslooga: use apt-get to remove the debs in the respective folder, and use debfoster and deborphan as I said02:27
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jhankseveas hehe you might be right...02:27
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loogaSeveas,do you recommend i do clean and autoclean before, after, or both before and after i upgrade to breezy?02:27
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apokryphosjhank: I haven't used it for some time, but I was using the pack from klik (just to try it out) and it worked well02:27
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jhankapokryphos is klik a source or what is it?02:28
daloydoyany solution of poor dot matrix printer output?02:28
apokryphos!klik02:28
ubotuhmm... klik is at  http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/02:28
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zenlinuxNHYahoo for breezy!02:28
loogaSeveas: i don't see autoclean in hoary repos. Is autoclean only for breezy?02:28
cafuego_arrgh02:28
jhankokay thanks i'l give it a try02:28
apokryphosjhank: a truly revolutionary invention :)02:28
cafuego_zenlinuxNH: No, Yahoo is an evil empire02:28
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zenlinuxNH:-/02:29
loogaclean is not in hoary repositories either.02:29
apokryphoseh?02:29
TerminX...they aren't programs02:29
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loogaapokryphos: how do i use apt-get to remove debs?02:29
damo21release party?02:29
TerminXyou've used a terminal right?02:29
damo21:)02:29
zenlinuxNHBut my question to everyone is: will YOU accept the "Extreme Ubuntu Install Challenge"?  http://www.zenlinux.com/ubuntu_challenge/02:29
loogaTerminX: me?02:29
apokryphoslooga: man apt-get02:29
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TerminXlooga: yes, you02:29
jhankapokryphos yes it seems so thanks mate02:29
wezzeris there a command that installs all default ubuntu packages02:29
TerminXlooga: apt-get clean02:29
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wezzerit seems that I have lost almost all of them02:29
bubumy  superuser password is lost. Can I reset it or something?02:29
ivaryou guys are hilarious !02:29
loogaTerminX: is apt-get for hoary?02:30
apokryphoswezzer: install ubuntu-desktop02:30
wezzerapokryphos: thanks02:30
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loogaTerminX: how come i can't find clean nor autoclean in synaptic?02:30
apokryphoslooga: what does that mean? Does hoary have it, you mean? Of course.02:30
damo21LOL install challenge02:30
TerminXoh fsck this02:30
ivariooga. autoclean is an argument02:30
ivarto apt-get02:30
damo21OMFG02:30
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RenskizenlinuxNH: I accept your challenge02:30
zenlinuxNHnice! be sure to check out the videos02:31
zenlinuxNH:)02:31
ivarthat will set apt-get on oyur unnecessary/cached packaged02:31
hafcan anyone help me? with apt-get, using the TAB key doesn't work with "breezy", it doesn't complete my written stuff02:31
damo21zenlinux u geek02:31
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loogaapokryphos: how come i can't find autoclean nor clean in synaptic?02:31
apokryphoshaf: you need to enable bash autocompletion02:31
damo21:)02:31
cafuegostupid terminal02:31
ivarhaf, i'm sure someone can help you, as long as you don't ask about autoclean ;)02:31
zenlinuxNHindeed: my cube at work is decorated with Ubuntu logos02:31
apokryphoslooga: because it's a feature synaptic lacks02:31
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michaelhey, how come when i just installed breezy there were two erase whole disk options, one referring to lvm?02:31
loogaapokryphos:02:31
loogaapokryphos: i see.02:31
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loogaapokryphos:do you recommend i do clean and autoclean before, after, or both before and after i upgrade to breezy?02:32
cafuegomichael: If you're masochistically incined you can use LVM instead of just partitions.02:32
bubudamnit. how do I fix a lost su password?02:32
apokryphoslooga: if you're low on space, before. If you've got plenty -- just after02:32
hafthanks, I'll try to find out how to activate the autocompletion (did this once on kanotix *g*)02:32
apokryphosbubu: sudo passwd02:32
zoot_[LethAL] : re the gksudo and synaptic - had to be running a WM (which creates the Xauthority file) - so I installed WDM and all's well :)02:32
damo21base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/failed-initrd-tools-install ??02:32
bubuk02:32
irvinbubu: boot in recovery mode02:32
loogaapokryphos: if i do it after, will it be as effective as doing it before?02:32
allanIs there any place I could check if a pcmcia Wireless card is working with Ubuntu? - I wanna buy a new one but I'd like to make sure it works02:32
apokryphoshaf: edit .bashrc and enter ". /etc/bash_completion"02:32
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cafuegocrud, au.archive is being _hammered_02:33
apokryphoslooga: if you do it after it will remove *all* debs that apt got -- you can view them in /var/cache/apt/archives/02:33
damo21i cant get breezy on my laptop it keeps failing02:33
El_Checafuego: duh :)02:33
Kamiondamo21: alt-f3 and look for error messages there02:33
hafthank you :)02:33
apokryphoslooga: if you do it before you will just be removing them in two stages02:33
Kamiondamo21: smells of a scratched CD or a dirty CD drive to me, though02:33
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loogaapokryphos: so i'm just wasting time by doing it before, right?02:33
apokryphoslooga: slightly02:34
loogaapokryphos: why slightly?02:34
apokryphoslooga: you wouldn't be if you didn't have enough space to cope with all the .debs02:34
Kamionmichael: was part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerVolumeManagement02:34
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cafuegolong live the internode mirror :-)02:35
Kamionin retrospect that goal didn't really achieve everything we set out to achieve with it02:35
loogaapokryphos: i understand. since i have much space, i could just do it after.02:35
damo21Kamion: can u help me im not sure what to do with this02:35
apokryphosindeed02:35
basvghi guys, during the install of breezy I had a nice graphical bootsplash.... but now that the install is completely finished I noticed that the text scrolls by again02:35
basvgdoes anyone know how to get the graphical bootsplash back?02:35
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damo21packages have unmet dependencies02:35
apokryphosbasvg: hm, that shouldn't have happened02:35
basvgapokryphos: what shouldn't have happened?02:36
Taliesin`(cafuego): internode finally have it updated huh?02:36
apokryphosbasvg: do you have usplash? dpkg -l|grep usplash  ...gives?02:36
Kamiondamo21: well, there should be dpkg output on alt-f3 about the installation of initramfs-tools02:36
apokryphosbasvg: you should still have the usplash, that is.02:36
Taliesin`(cafuego): wasnt updated 2 hours ago :P FileArena was cranking with the updates thou *yeay*02:36
basvglemme check02:36
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Kamiondamo21: does it look like that was successful, or are there error messages?02:36
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basvgapokryphos: it claims that is installed (0.1-22)...02:36
Kamiondamo21: oh, "packages have unmet dependencies", didn't see that. Is it more specific than that?02:37
michaelwoah, not complaining, just curious, does anyone else get only with ubuntu, the forward and refresh buttons in firefox being the back arrow?02:37
damo21Kamion: it says base-config: Depends: gettext-base but is not going to be installed02:37
basvgapokryphos: perhaps I should reinstall (apt-get --reinstall install usplash) ?02:37
apokryphosbasvg: nope; that sounds right02:37
loogai'm going to take the plunge into breezy now. i'm nervous.02:37
Kamiondamo21: ok, sounds like something failed earlier on; I'd (a) try burning your CD at a lower speed, (b) if that doesn't help, invest in a CD / CD-drive cleaning kit02:37
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Kamionbecause we do know that all the packages in the released images are installable02:38
basvgapokryphos: it seems that usplash doesn't have a man-page.. any thoughts on where I Can start looking?02:38
apokryphosbasvg: try doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`02:38
damo21Kamion: yeah i wish i had a few blanks this stupid rw cd is buggered02:38
damo21:P02:38
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damo21how do i unmount the cdrom during the install to eject?02:40
basvgapokryphos: ah, that claims `searching for splash image .... none found`02:40
michaelso lvm is a risky option on the installer then, yeah?02:40
damo21ive dropped to the terminal but i dont have many tools02:40
Renskibasvg: permissions of the splash image?02:40
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Renskior/and folder?02:40
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damo21cant even find fstab02:41
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Renskibasvg, nether do I02:41
apokryphosbasvg: that actually doesn't mean it doesn't work, as far as I know -- mine has always said that (and it has for others too), while it still works.02:41
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cafuegodpkg -L usplash | grep so02:41
Renskibasvg: chmod 777 /* -R02:41
Renski:p02:41
wrabbithey again... I'm having a little trouble. At times... when I ask to shutdown, it freezes towards the end and just sits there.  Any idea as to why?02:41
cafuegoIt's not trivial to change it.02:41
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Kamiondamo21: umount /cdrom; eject02:41
Kamion... should do it02:41
cafuegoOr did you mean grub splash? Just in /boot/grub/splashimages/* and referece the file in the menu.lst file.02:42
damo21kamion:  /bin/sh: eject: not found02:42
damo21lol02:42
os2macstupid question.... what happens when I run the install disk on my winxp boxen?02:42
Kamiondamo21: anna-install eject-udeb, try again02:42
basvgI mean the nice ubuntu logo displayed on the center of the screen while the <service> [ok]  messages scroll by02:42
wrabbitos2mac, it'll ask if you want to install over a particular partition etc02:43
occyw00p02:43
wrabbitpretty step by step02:43
apokryphosbasvg: see if it works now02:43
basvgthe dpkg -L camed up with a /usr/lib/something... that file exsits and has -rw--r--r-- permissions02:43
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damo21anna-install!!! wow02:43
wrabbitanybody running xfce4?02:43
Kamionos2mac: it should also offer automatic resizing of your WinXP partition to fit Ubuntu into the free space02:43
damo21:)02:43
Hendricbreezy is out!! woah!!!!02:43
basvgapokryphos: ok, before trying anything else I'll reboot02:43
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Kamiondamo21: (this is dodgy installer hacking, but never mind)02:43
wrabbitif so.... do you find it alot quicker than gnome?02:43
damo21hehe02:44
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vengefulwrabbit, yes02:44
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basvgyes!!02:44
wrabbitvengeful, you're using it now?02:44
basvgthe reconfigure thingy fixed it!02:44
gasherhelp02:44
vengefulyes02:44
apokryphosbasvg: excellent; thought so :)02:45
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AraviJust installed ubuntu on my laptop, during the install I wasn't prompted for a root password.02:45
gasherproble; with dreanwear02:45
basvgapokryphos: thanks buddy!02:45
apokryphos!tell Aravi about root02:45
RenskiAravi: you dont need one02:45
vengefularavi..welcome to sudo02:45
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wrabbitvengeful: apt-get install xfce4? Will I have to change operatin systems or is it still Ubuntu02:45
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os2macRelease just hit slashdot.... stand by for the smoking server02:45
vengefuli did it from synaptic...but should be same :-P02:45
RenskiAravi: when ever you want to do something in root, prefix the command with sudo02:45
vengefuljust log out when its installed02:45
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wrabbitso just a restart'll do it02:46
vengefulyeh02:46
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Renskie.g. sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf02:46
Aravisudo: unable to lookup aegis by gethostbyname()02:46
wrabbitis it easy to get back to gnome if I don't like it02:46
wrabbit?02:46
gasheri have just install coldfusionmx7 on my system02:46
apokryphosos2mac: ouch 8)02:46
vengefulyeps wrabbit02:46
os2macI didn't post it...02:46
wrabbitalrighty.... I'll try it now02:46
os2macI promise.02:46
wrabbitcheers02:46
vengefulyou select which one u wanna login with02:46
RenskiAravi: whats the full command you just used?02:46
sheera_22fhi02:46
vengefulat the login screen02:46
wrabbitvengeful, really? that's awesome.02:46
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gasherbut i can locate /opt/coldfusionmx7/bin02:47
Aravisudo modprobe tg302:47
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mweAravi: that's nothing to worry to much about, probably /etc/hosts needs tweaking02:47
wrabbitvengeful, will I have to set it up manually or will it automatically give me the options?  I'm asking now because knowing my luck, I won't be able to get it working02:47
gashercan some one help me02:47
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mwe!tell Aravi about root02:47
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vengefulit does it all for you02:47
RenskiAravi: sounds like a problem with modprobe rather than sudo then02:47
wrabbitgasher, better to just ask the main question than ask to ask a question02:47
wrabbitvengeful, Thanks! off to try now02:47
Araviit happens regardless of command.02:47
vengefuljust logout..select session..click xfce02:47
vengefuland then login02:48
wrabbitk02:48
joachim_first time I put in the breezy install CD, it popped up a dialog asking me if I wanted to upgrade from it.... how do I get that to happen again?02:48
wrabbitI'll be back if it works02:48
AraviAt the moment it isn't detecting either network (ethernet or WiFi)02:48
gasherthe problem i cannot get coldfusion to start02:48
RenskiAravi: thats insane, sudo has no business using gethostbyname()02:48
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AraviBoth are Broadcom, ethernet uses the tg3 driver02:48
mweAravi: sudo should work regardless of the warning that it can't look up your hostname02:49
vengefulethernet should be ok02:49
vengefulopen up networking02:49
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vengefulsee whats in there02:49
AraviNo devices detected02:49
damo21i burnt the cd at 4x but still having problems :(02:49
vengefuloh unlucky02:49
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vengefulyou on breezy?02:49
AraviYep02:49
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AraviDownloaded it an hour ago.02:49
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Araviifconfig returns nothing, not even lo02:50
juxellahello ppl.... finished installing breezy on a dell Optiplex620 with X300SE graphics... X startup breaks with "no screens found"02:50
gasherwrabbit i cannot start coldfusionmx702:50
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gasherno such directory found02:50
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gasherwat shd i do?02:50
allanI have a laptop with a Pentium 3 600 Mhz, 4mb video and 64mb ram (i can extend the ram to 256) - Will Breezy even run on it? :P02:51
gasherhelp02:51
gasherhelp guys02:51
gasheri need help02:51
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damo21juxella u need to edit /etc/xorg.conf or run the xorg-configure thing again02:51
vengefulvideo might be a prob02:51
apokryphos!helpme02:51
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.02:51
gasheri ve to work on this for my project02:51
gasherpls help02:51
allandamn02:51
apokryphosgasher: please don't be annoying02:51
bwlangallan: sure... but i'd recommend that you use a window manger other than gnome... try blackbox02:51
Aravigasher, exactly what is wrong02:51
juxelladamo21: i have no clue how to edit that (what should i setup).... can you give me more info?02:51
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allanbwlang: thx02:51
apokryphosgasher: just ask your question; if someone is able/willing to help, they will. :)02:51
RedGhostnew boot gui is nice02:51
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avalostno, blackbox is obsolete02:51
gasheri just install coldfusionmx702:52
allanwhat then ?02:52
avalostuse fluxbox instead or openbox02:52
allank02:52
gasherapache en everything works02:52
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Aravihmm, can't add hostname to /etc/hosts02:52
damo21someone tell juxella about xorg.conf02:52
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gasherbut i can locate /opt/coldfusionmx7/bin02:52
gasherto start it02:53
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juxellaeh, im going to try and do it by hand, its wierd tho, its the first time the xorg installation broke from the box... and im using a preety standard graphix... eh. hope i fix it soon02:54
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DShepherddoes anyone know how I can install Firefox 1.5beta2 with synaptic (apt-get)?02:54
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sk545are there any other apt mirrors besides archive.ubuntu.com?02:55
haroI can not see any charactors in my firefox...02:55
haroWhat can I do?02:55
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damo21is there a tool to find the fastest apt mirror?02:56
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erchachehhhheeeeeellllllp02:56
erchachei upgrade a server from hoary to breezy and crash02:56
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haroI am ok02:56
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erchachei cant start server.....i test on resuce mode change02:56
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DShepherddoes anyone know how I can install Firefox 1.5beta2 with synaptic (apt-get)?02:57
harobut  Syaptic desn't work02:57
erchachemwe: arent breezy stable or what?02:57
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apokryphosBreezy is now stable, yes.02:57
haroMy Firefox even has not menu02:57
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liableapt-spy02:57
erchachebut my server crash on upgrade....02:57
ktogiasDShepherd, I dont see Firefox 1.5beta2 anywhere in the repositories... So i think you can't02:57
erchachemany dependeces was broken02:57
erchachei try to reboot02:57
erchacheand cant.....fuck!02:57
harocan't see anything...02:58
occyerchache, you upgrading?02:58
apokryphoserchache: rebooting wouldn't help; and language, please :)02:58
erchacheyeah02:58
ktogiasDShepherd, but you can try the installer given from mozilla.org02:58
occyerchache, or installing from scratch?02:58
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GNAMausauas02:58
erchachei try to mount my hd but i cant02:58
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GNAMupgrade of a so NEVER WORKS02:58
erchachebecause are using xfs02:58
snadgewhat happened to the dvd release? :p02:58
allan1i think that it might be a wiser choice for me to upgrade my laptop02:58
GNAMthis law is for every so02:58
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GNAMformat and reinstall.02:59
liableso?02:59
DShepherdktogias: Yeah I was thinking about that...I have had probs in the pass...oh well I give it a whirl02:59
GNAMos02:59
GNAMasusausausau02:59
apokryphosGNAM: so?02:59
erchachegnam: i can upgrade my laptops....and servers.....with hoary02:59
GNAM;)02:59
apokryphosGNAM: absolute rubbish02:59
erchachebut breeze.....crash02:59
liableworks fin usually..02:59
apokryphosGNAM: a stable -> stable dist-upgrade is fully supported02:59
liablefine.02:59
occyI guess I can try the upgrade...02:59
allan1will all the wizards and user friendly stuff still be available in fluxbox/openbox ?02:59
liableno02:59
occybut... the wiki doesn't show it as being a fully supported option02:59
damo21how do i check a cdroms filesystem03:00
apokryphosoccy: show what? A dist-upgrade?03:00
apokryphosoccy: it sure is03:00
damo21for error03:00
occyapix, yeah... check topic03:00
occyerrr03:00
kenoncan anyone help me with mdadm?03:00
occyapokryphos, check topic03:00
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erchachei make a dist-upgrade.....and fails for dependence broken03:00
occyhttp://tinyurl.com/74xlu03:00
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zenlinuxNHOkay guys, I just posted the Extreme Ubuntu Install Challenge as a comment on the Slashdot article. Please help mod it up!03:00
erchachei restarrt system.....and hangs!03:00
damo21fsck /media/cdrom wont work03:00
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damo21what can i use03:00
wezzerhey, is it possible that one of ubuntu mirrors _might_ not have updated packages>?03:00
solemn-laptopwhy is ubuntu so broken?03:00
apokryphosoccy: yes, what's the problem?03:01
wezzerbecause that would explain all my problems03:01
liablehah03:01
occyQuote: "Note: This is a work in progress and may break your system!!!"03:01
occyheh03:01
solemn-laptopi mean you took a working distro called deb and broke it03:01
apokryphosoccy: it needs to be updated then03:01
solemn-laptopwhy? :\03:01
erchachei get files from es mirror03:01
occyThat doesn't sound like something that is "fully supported"03:01
occyapokryphos, :)03:01
apokryphosoccy: my statement holds true though03:01
erchachefuck....03:01
liablesolemn-laptop: dont use it then..03:01
solemn-laptopi dont03:01
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occyapokryphos, k, I hope you are right.03:01
apokryphoserchache: please watch your language =)03:01
seliniumsolemn-laptop, Why are you here then?03:01
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apokryphosoccy: yes, I am; changing it now.03:01
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occyapokryphos, thanks bud03:01
solemn-laptopdunno03:01
damo21he is watching his bad language03:01
damo21appear as text03:02
solemn-laptopbecause im bored i think03:02
erchachei lost 2 weeks of hard work!03:02
occydamo21, heh, scroll by on the screen?03:02
damo21:)03:02
occyerchache, did you backup before you upgraded?03:02
apokryphosdamo21: sorry to hear that you're not familiar with the stock expression03:02
seliniumsolemn-laptop, I take it by your statement you are a debian user then?03:02
liablesolemn-laptop: no need to troll.03:02
occyerchache, always, always, always backup before you do anything.  :(03:02
solemn-laptoppossibly :)03:02
erchachenope....lammer im03:02
occyerchache, those USB drives are super cheap now.03:02
erchacheyeah03:02
occyerchache, sorry :(03:02
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seliniumsolemn-laptop, move to ubuntu-offtopic see you there03:02
erchachei must to did a dd of all my partitions!03:03
erchachei dont have initrd03:03
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occyerchache, But use this as a hard learned lesson.03:03
damo21apokryphos: just reading things literally :) its fun03:03
erchacheand stay on a rescue sesion03:03
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erchacheyeah03:03
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occyerchache, look into unison03:03
occyerchache, it rocks.03:03
occyunison-gtk is pretty cool too...03:03
occy(though it's a crappily laid out application)03:03
DShepherdWhere Can I find a list of the major software that ubuntu breezy ships with03:03
erchachei dont use x on my servers03:03
damo21does anyone know how to check if my ubuntu cd is ok?03:03
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occyerchache, you use Ubuntu on your servers?03:04
hannoHi. Is one of you using Ubuntu within a LAN of Windows computers? I'm having questions how to work with SMB-shares in Nautilus.03:04
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erchacheyeah03:04
DShepherddamo21: no03:04
damo21i did md5sum on the iso03:04
occyerchache, crazy03:04
occyheh03:04
erchachebetter than debian03:04
erchachemore fast03:04
erchacheand reliable03:04
liablewhat?03:04
DShepherddamo21: Is the cd damaged?03:04
occyI've just stuck with Debian for servers.03:04
damo21i think so03:04
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DShepherddamo21: Why do you think so?03:04
btdownSeveas you there?03:04
thechitowncubshi03:04
liablefaster and more reliable? you got to be joking..03:04
occyI didn't think Ubuntu was geared toward a server.03:04
damo21because it said i/o error when copying files03:05
DShepherddamo21: Do you have the iso elsewhere?03:05
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damo21i have the iso fine on my HDD03:05
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Juxellahello ppl..03:05
Skidi pref debian over ubuntu as a server03:05
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occyheh03:05
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Skidinfact, i'd not run ubuntu as a server, until it's a little older :) (production server)03:05
DShepherddamo21: Burn it again on another cd and you 'll know for sure03:05
Skidbut im probably paraniod heh03:05
Juxellai had a problem with xorg before, looks like changing the ATI drivers for VESA helped the problem> are ATI drivers broken_03:05
damo21dshephard: little problem i dont have any more03:06
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defendguinhi im looking for an ubuntu boot floppy  i took the cdrom drive out of my laptop and missplaced it03:06
erchachebut if i can access to partitons.....03:06
damo21dshephard: only this cdrw03:06
DShepherddamo21: ok...hmm...03:06
erchacheand has all data03:06
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erchachehow i can recover kernel and all boot process files?03:06
kenoncan anyone help me with mdadm (software raid)?03:06
loogaIs 2726B/s for apt-get of dist upgrade slow?03:06
Skidplus i dont like how it handles kernels :)03:06
DShepherddamo21: Well.. There's only one way to fix that problem. Get another03:07
twokneei have a folder full of ttf fonts that i want to add to the system wide font folder however i cannot mount /media/sda1 as a normal user (its ntfs i believe) and copy it into fonts:///03:07
DShepherddamo21: from a friend maybe03:07
thechitowncubscan't ubuntu see how many users there are roughly by the stats from apt-get?03:07
DShepherddamo21: buy maybe03:07
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damo21DShephard: maybe i do full erase of cdrw try burning at 1x03:07
damo21:P03:07
fredforfaenis it really nessesary to run a firewall in linux if you dont have any services running that can be accsessed?03:07
Juxellaanother question > can i run the A64/SMP kernel on a Intel 830D procesor (dualcore, EM64T extensions?)03:07
liableerchache: are you sure you should be running a server?03:07
DShepherddamo21: try that....but it sounds like your cd is bad03:07
loogaMy terminal is still at "0% [Waiting for headers] " after 2 minutes. Is this normal???03:07
erchachea sun fire v6503:07
damo21yes03:08
DShepherddamo21: try cleaning it and burning again03:08
erchacheliable: a sun fire v6503:08
damo21yup03:08
thechitowncubsfredforfaen,no03:08
erchachexeon....raid scsi03:08
DShepherddamo21: how many times have you tried already?03:08
erchacheand 2 gigabits03:08
erchacheon 2gb ram03:08
erchacheecc03:08
damo21only once03:08
loogaokay, it's making progress again.03:08
fredforfaenthechitowncubs ok , and your sure about this :)03:08
damo21burnt at 4x03:08
fredforfaen?03:08
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ivargah, this is a bad time to upgrade.. the repo is being hammered03:08
DShepherddamo21: try again ....it just might work....call a fren and borrow one from them..just in case03:09
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apokryphosyup03:09
DShepherddamo21: good luck!03:09
damo21:)03:09
twokneeanyone know how to move fonts from a windows /dev/sda1 after mounting as root to a user run gnome in fonts:///03:09
loogaivar: then when is a good time to upgrade? 2 weeks from now?03:09
DShepherdWhere Can I find a list of the major software that ubuntu breezy ships with03:09
erchacheim going to fight with my server config03:09
erchachebye03:09
ivarlooga, i'd say so.. yeah03:09
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loogaivar: are you going to wait that long?03:09
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ivarlooga, either that or get a cd via torrent03:09
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loogaivar: why not just  upgrade in the background?03:10
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DShepherdivar: now is a good time to upgrade03:10
ivarlooga, no, i've already started .. my system would be hosed if I stopped now :|03:10
loogaivar: i wish i could get a cd via torrent, but my pc doesn't burn cds.03:10
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DShepherdivar: there's no need to wait, breezy should be stable03:10
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loogaivar, what do you mean by "hosed"?03:10
ivarDShepherd, i just meant the the repsoitory is very very slow03:10
shutdownrunnerDoes anyone know how to get HP Laserjet 1020 to work under Breezy?03:10
ktogiastwoknee, doesn't just draging them at fonts:/// under nautilus work?03:10
DShepherdivar:  ok03:10
DShepherdWhere Can I find a list of the major software that ubuntu breezy ships with03:10
loogashutdownrunner: first, connect the printer to your computer.03:11
apokryphoslooga: as in, many people are using the servers currently, so it's crippling them oO03:11
ivarlooga, there are some major changes between breezy and warty... if half my packages are upgraded, the whole thing starts to stink03:11
shutdownrunnerthanks looga. I didn't know it03:11
loogaivar, so no turning around now. for you and for me.03:11
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xukunI just downloaded the breezy cd, how can I now uprade to breezy? Do I need to reinstall everything?03:11
ivarlooga, let's just hope it doesn't get /,'ed03:11
loogashutdownrunner: that's pretty much how much quality in advice i can give, as a newbie03:11
loogaivar: if it does... what will happen.03:12
looga?03:12
liableyou get pwned03:12
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ivarlooga, the transfer speed will go down to nothing (or very close to it)03:12
loogai have 22 hours to go for upgrade. yippee03:12
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twokneektogias no that is not working03:13
loogawish ubuntu had MORE bandwidth03:13
apokryphoslooga: it's quite safe to stop the upgrade while it's still only downloading packs03:13
twokneei can mount /dev/sda1 as /media/sda1 which contains my ttf.  but for some reason i can't get the fonts into the fonts:/// directory03:13
ivarlooga, it's actually well supllied.. it doesn't make sense to make too many affordances for such anomalous traffic spikes (that's what bittorrent is for..)03:14
aftertafperl: warning: Setting locale failed.03:14
aftertaf    <------- why is this error after every apt-get?03:14
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loogaapokryphos: i see no good reason to stop. Better slowly than never.03:14
xukunguys please advice. Do I need to reinstall everything, or can I just upgrade to breezy?03:14
apokryphoslooga: you could stop if you wanted to retry later, but either way.. really.03:14
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loogaivar: if i could use bittorrent without having to burn the stuff on a CD, I would. But I don't have a CD burner, so i have no choice.03:14
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DShepherdxukun: I prefer to reinstall but its safe to upgrade03:14
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aftertafxukun:  with the cd?   you can use apt-setup to add it as a repository03:15
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twokneewhat folder on ubuntu are the standard ttf located ?  i can copy from command line just fine.03:15
shutdownrunnerlooga: just download ubuntu via torrent and mount cd iso as a loop03:15
ivarlooga, you can actually mount a CD image that's on your harddrive03:15
twokneefrom terminal03:15
ivari wish i'd done that03:15
irvinis there any particular package i'd have to download to setup a private gpg keyserver?03:15
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Hendricno DVD for breezy available yet??03:16
vengefuli think someone said a few days after official release03:16
Belial-Hendric: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/03:17
loogashutdownrunner: ivar. I CAN? Aaaagh!03:17
yanchengis the back-port extra in the mirrormax fail??03:17
thechitowncubsWhy would there be a dvd anyways?03:17
Belial-http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso03:17
Belial-http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent03:17
loogaanyway, it's an "aaagh" only because of my impatience.03:17
apokryphosthechitowncubs: for live+install+other features that couldn't fit03:17
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ivarlooga, with linux, you can do almost anything.. :)03:17
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BockBilbohello03:18
BockBilboi get error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):03:18
BockBilbo Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should03:18
BockBilbo reinstall it before attempting a removal. when dist upgrading to breezy03:18
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sexcopter8000mwhat should i use to burn the iso to disc?03:18
Hendricd difference between DVD and CD is that it contains all architecture?? no special packagees???03:18
BockBilbo(sorry for the flood)03:18
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loogaivar,but with my unLinuxed brain, you can't.03:18
shutdownrunnerlooga: you download an iso. an then sth like mount -t iso9660 -o loop,user /mnt/something /path/to/your/iso03:18
zoot_anyone know how to enable xdmcp?03:18
apokryphossexcopter8000m: k3b is good03:18
Hendricif nothing special about the difference.. i better grab the CD iso...03:18
xukuncan I move my home partion to other partion?03:18
BockBilbohow can i reinstall it?03:18
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sexcopter8000mty apokryphos, just couldn't remember that name :)03:18
loogashutdownrunner: okay. i think I'll just wait for the apt-get upgrade to do its slow work.03:18
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shutdownrunnerlooga: use a mirror if you think that the official server is too busy03:19
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btdownxdmcp System > Administration > Login Screen setup > Security03:20
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zoot_how to start/configure XDMCP?03:20
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bugzElMagnificohowdy folks, I've been trying for some time now(without success) to make Rhythmbox play mp3 files using a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.04. Any suggestions?03:20
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Cavallo where I can set other language keyboard layout at KDE login ?03:20
BockBilbobugzElMagnifico, read the wiki03:20
BockBilbo!RestrictedFormats03:20
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:20
DShepherdxukun: Why do you want to do that?03:20
bugzElMagnificoBockBilbo, OK... tks03:20
loogashutdownrunner: too late.03:21
btdownzoot_ xdmcp System > Administration > Login Screen setup > Security03:21
loogashutdownrunner: i'll just wait for apt-get to finish.03:21
xukunDShepherd, I want to save my home directory, becouse I,m going to install breezy?03:21
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shutdownrunnerlooga: not too late. cancel your download. change mirror and update package information. and resume downloadin packages. you'll get some errors when you cancel, but you shouldn't worry about it03:22
DShepherdxukun: where do yu want to put it?03:22
zoot_btdown: thx, but i'm running wdm and xfce, not gnome/gdm... hmmm - at least you've hinted - there must be a wdm config somewhere :)03:22
RedGhostgah03:22
RedGhosti just installed ubuntu via VMware03:22
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RedGhostand all my sound stopped working in windows03:22
loogashutdownrunner: are you sure?03:23
RedGhostalso no sound works in ubuntu03:23
loogashutdownrunner: where do i find list of mirrors?03:23
btdownah ok sorry homie...I gave it a shot...03:23
xukunDShepherd, from /dev/hdb7 to /dev/hda503:23
mwright1nightIs breezy released03:23
RedGhostyes03:23
btdownyes03:23
loogamwright1night: you betcha03:23
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shutdownrunnerlooga: yes. if you don't believe me see /var/cache/apt/archives. firt synaptic downloads the packages and then installs them03:24
joni__ubuntu+vmware+bluetooth freezes the whole system. is this a known problem?03:24
DShepherdman mv03:24
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Shinjanhi folks03:24
aftertafwhy is libgtk1.2-dev available, but not libgtk2.0-dev03:24
DShepherdxukun: you can just right click and copy the folder and paste it where you want it03:24
shutdownrunnerlooga: mirrors https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive03:25
DShepherdxukun: what is the filesystem type used on /dev/hda5?03:25
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saik0Huzzah for Breezy!03:25
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xukunDShepherd, fat3203:26
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KiraI don't know where to ask, so I'll ask here. What's the big fuss about legacy usb support?03:26
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KiraIs it downright buggy or what?03:26
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eXtreme22hellp03:26
eXtreme22ppl03:26
eXtreme22i install ubuntu03:26
eXtreme22:)03:26
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eXtreme22but my modem03:26
saik0ubotu: tell eXtreme22 about ask03:27
eXtreme22is winmodem03:27
eXtreme22smartlink03:27
DShepherdxukun: Cut and past should work03:27
eXtreme22i install driver03:27
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cafuego_Ah, is there an official breezy cd label out anywhere, for disc printing?03:27
eXtreme22sl-modem-daemon03:27
eXtreme22and KPPP03:27
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eXtreme22Query modem work03:27
haro...03:27
leigh_annehi03:27
eXtreme22but when i try connect on net03:27
eXtreme22ATDTnumber03:27
eXtreme22and fail03:27
eXtreme22?03:27
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loogaHey all: my terminal is currently in the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" process. It's running quite slow. Would it be safe to cancel the process and then switch mirrors to a mirror in the country I'm currently in?03:28
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cafuego_looga: yep. just run a 'sudo apt-get update' in between to fetch new lists.03:28
saik0looga: as long as it's downloading and not installing thats not a problem at all03:28
Swearingendoes ubuntu ship with a mp3 codec?03:28
cafuego_saik0: Even if it's installing it's not usually a problem (libc6 excepted ;-)03:28
saik0obotu: tell Swearingen about mp303:28
rizlahi folks03:28
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loogasaiko, how do i know if' it's in downloading stage or installing stage?03:29
apoZ`sudo apt-get update to upgrade ???03:29
cafuego_looga: just ctrl-c it, it will be fine.03:29
rizlai don't find w32codecs... what repo do i have to add?03:29
loogacafuego: i'm scared.03:29
cafuego_looga: don't be.03:29
eXtreme22hellp03:29
saik0looga, what cafuego_ said, _should_ be fine03:29
Swearingenheh03:29
loogacafuego: i don't want to pay the price just because of my impatience03:29
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patrikanyone who cantell me how to copy a directory?03:30
mwright1nightIs "Teacherspet" included wth edubuntu?03:30
apoZ`'sudo apt-get update' to upgrade ???03:30
DShepherdman cp03:30
mwright1nighthttp://wiki.edubuntu.org/TeachersPet03:30
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SwearingenI love this ubuntu stuff but what about mp3?03:30
harosudo apt-get update03:30
cafuego_looga: The worst that can happen is that you will need to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'  when you want tor esume. it will tell you if this is the case.03:30
DShepherdpatrik: man cp03:30
harosudo apt-get upgrade03:30
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harosudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:30
loogacafuego: saik0 and if i change mirrors, what will happen to all the packages that have already been downloaded? Do they have to be downloaded again?03:30
eXtreme22i iinstall ubuntu,KDE, i have winmodem smartlink, i install driver sl-modem-daemon ... query modem on KPPP is work but ATDTnumber fail no dialtone ???03:30
lllmanulllSwearingen, You need to install additionnal packages03:31
DShepherdpatrik: You can use GUI and right click copy and paste03:31
saik0extreme22: try #kubuntu03:31
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shutdownrunnerlooga: no they are on your drive. they won't be deleted03:31
lllmanulllSwearingen, Ubuntu doesn't come with out of the box mp3 support for legal reasons03:31
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cafuego_looga: No, they will remain on disk and will be used.03:31
saik0looga: nope hooray apt03:31
izm99hi all, is there any way to get *the most recent* log info from X?  My pc's crashing as soon as I start x, but there is no data being put into /usr/var/log/Xorg.0.log03:31
aftertaflooga:  nope, theyre cached... dont worry about ctl D... i do it all the time :)03:31
Swearingenlllmanulll: understood, package names?03:31
loogaaftertaf: what's ctrl D?03:31
Ghoatupgrade servers must be busy, downloading at 22 kB/s, going flawlessly though....03:31
onkarshindeIs translation using launchpad a continuous process? Can I still translate some packages?03:32
patrikDShpepherd: no i must be root to write to dest. so im using sudo.. but i cant find out how to copy a whole dir using cp03:32
loogacafuego: saik0: do you recommend using the server list in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive?03:32
lllmanulllSwearingen, Let me see03:32
lllmanulllSwearingen, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-lame, lame03:32
apoZ`??03:32
apoZ`could not upgrade03:32
aftertaflooga:  i meant ctl C03:33
lllmanulllSwearingen, should be enough, post again if it's not03:33
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Swearingendanke03:33
sexcopter8000mok, burning the disc failed half way through :( should i check md5 sum thingies? if so, how?03:33
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wrabbit!!!!!!!!!!03:33
ubotuNo idea, wrabbit03:33
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wrabbitxfce is soooo much quicker than Gnome03:34
loogahow do i find the official mirror for Japan?03:34
wrabbitLoving it03:34
lllmanulllsexcopter8000m, Are you running linux right now ?03:34
sexcopter8000myes, hoary03:34
Dekkardcan you get ubuntu to use reiser4 ?03:34
lllmanulllsexcopter8000m, Run the md5sum command on the ISO you downloaded03:34
wrabbitAnybody else running xfce?03:34
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loogaaftertaf: ?03:34
lllmanulllsexcopter8000m, Then compare it to the one given on the server03:34
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Dekkardwrabbit,  i was on hoary..03:34
saik0looga: Not sure about the unofficial servers. might not be current after release...heh the wiki says warty03:34
shutdownrunnerlooga: try some Japanese university. they usually have fast connections and mirrors of linux distributions03:34
lllmanulllsexcopter8000m, Or on the CD, maybe03:34
onkarshindeIs translation using launchpad a continuous process? Can I still translate some packages?03:35
sexcopter8000mlllmanulll: ok it's just working away03:35
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Amaranthonkarshinde: if you want them to be translated better for dapper, sure03:35
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loogashutdownrunner: so you think i shoudln't use one of the japan mirrors at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive?03:35
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sexcopter8000mlllmanulll: 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d6103:36
loogasaik0: you're right!03:36
sexcopter8000m(for the iso image on hdd)03:36
loogasaik0: it does say warty.03:36
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wrabbitDekkard, it can pretty much do anything that Gnome can do correct?  It's so smooth on my system.  Gnome was hell on my 700mhz03:36
loogasaik0: so i guess i have no choice but to wait for this slow process.03:36
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wrabbitI might stick with this03:36
loogasaik0: besides, there really is no rush for me.03:36
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wrabbitvery nice indeed.03:36
btdownWho can I talk to about a blackbird login, plz?03:36
loogasaik0: I'm just excited. That's all.03:36
apoZ`I don't get the upgrade.  I already had the prelease though03:36
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onkarshindeAmaranth: Are you the one who is admin for Punjabi Translation?03:36
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thechitowncubsMy 1st period is over03:37
thechitowncubssee ya guys03:37
Amaranthonkarshinde: nope03:37
saik0looga: asking the wrong person. my ubuntu box is back at tyhe manufacturer because the touchpad broke. have'nt updated03:37
Dekkardwrabbit,  um.. yeah.. and its pretty gtk compatible.. xfce4 is a nice ui for a lappy or an older shytstem like my old athlon 90003:37
Amaranthonkarshinde: there is an amaranth there too?03:37
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shutdownrunnerlooga: what's your current transfer?03:37
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xukunDShepherd, I think I need to be root to copy and paste, becouse paste is grey03:37
sexcopter8000mlllmanulll: i think it tallies with the ubuntu site03:37
Dekkardwrabbit,  but i think xffm is kind of lame as a file manager.. i think the old ubuntu version used rox..03:38
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loogashutdownrunner:       7771B/s 1d 3h30m31s03:38
Dekkardbut im senile so.. i may be wrong03:38
onkarshindeAmaranth: Sorry. The name was something different. But Whom should I contact for this? I want to help for Marathi translation.03:38
loogashutdownrunner: no problem with me.03:38
shutdownrunnerso that's a really crappy transfer03:38
loogashutdownrunner: what's your transfer rate?03:38
wrabbitDekkard, Running a thinkpad now so suits it well.  Heard of rox on the forums.  Might give it a shot03:38
sexcopter8000mbrb03:38
Amaranthonkarshinde: Sorry, I don't really know. I make things, someone else translates them. :)03:38
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Dekkardrox is wicked fast03:39
xukunhow can I start gnome file browser as root?03:39
saik0wrabbit: xfce 4.2 is a great 'middlewight' WM03:39
onkarshindeAmaranth: what do you make?03:39
wrabbitWM?03:39
saik0windowmanager03:39
Dekkardxukun,  terminal sudo nautilus03:39
Amaranthonkarshinde: the menu editor in breezy, for one :)03:39
loogasomeone told me i can switch mirrors, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/archive talks about Warty, not bReezy03:39
wrabbitah, right03:39
moebius_seems like the mirrors are getting hammered hard03:39
shutdownrunnerI have 40-50 kbytes/s03:39
Belutzxukun, gksudo nautilus03:39
wrabbittrying my hardest to use the command line.  Gotta learn alot.03:39
xukunDekkard, ah thanks03:39
Dekkardnp03:39
loogashutdownrunner: you'll be done soen03:39
loogasoon.03:39
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Dekkardwrabbit,  take your time..read a bunch..03:40
yanchenghelo, for bz2 file extension, how can i extract them?03:40
shutdownrunnerlooga: maybe if there's no Japanes mirror try sth in your neighbourhood. some asian mirror03:40
wrabbitDekkard, .. was thinking of actually picking up a book on the subject.03:40
apoZ`I don't get the upgrade.  I already had the prelease though03:40
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wrabbitDekkard, but then again... I have a laptop and the internet so that's portable enough ;_03:40
loogashutdownrunner: but where do i find the breezy list? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive is for Warty apparently.03:40
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onkarshindeAmaranth: Cool. I will be taking up development of a long unmaintained project. May be I could use some help.03:41
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Dekkardwrabbit,  here is the deal.. a book is good.. but it can be like learning how to do chemistry.. look at what you want to do..than remember this " Google is your friend"03:41
Bad_Magicthe repos down?03:41
moebius_does ca.archive.ubuntu have breezy?03:41
Amaranthonkarshinde: I don't really have time for much more right now.03:41
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wrabbitDekkard, you're telling me! I don't think I've ever googled as much as I have in the last few weeks03:42
harowhy not try some taiwan mirror or chinese mirror?03:42
onkarshindeAmaranth: Not now. It will take long time for me to start. Can I always find you here?03:42
saik0wrabbit: if you like xfce and dont want all the gnome libs you  should try the xterminal package from os-cillation. I quite like it03:42
Amaranthharo: you know of one?03:42
wrabbitFeels good when you get something going.  Even if I have to come in here and beg for help :P03:42
yanchenghelo, for bz2 file extension, how can i extract them?03:42
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Belutzlooga, just change the "warty" into "breezy"03:42
shutdownrunnerlooga: it's just a list of mirrors. it was made for warty or whatever. but these are mirrors and they have synced with the main server since so they have hoary and breezy too03:42
Amaranthonkarshinde: about 3 hours a day on tuesdays and thursdays around this time03:42
onkarshindeOk. Thanks.03:42
saik0wrabbit: thats what we're here for =)03:42
Dekkardwrabbit,  good on ya.. learning keeps yer brain agile.. plus what you will find is you wont really need a whold lot of cli knowledge for Ubuntu.. but it is good to know and it can be fun to show your friends03:42
loogaBelutz: are you sure???03:42
AmaranthBelutz: Upgrading from warty to breezy won't work, you need to upgrade to hoary, then breezy.03:42
onkarshindeyancheng: bunzip2 filename.bz203:43
thirsocan anyone help me out? im trying to make my network adapter work, i have to do a make all to install the driver but im getting this error: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1132/screenshot1qy.jpg03:43
loogashutdownrunner:  so i can use the japanese mirror from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive?03:43
os2macis it normal for the partitioner to go to a blue screen while it's repartioning?03:43
Dekkardok.. got cds to burn :)03:43
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shutdownrunnerlooga:I tried it, but it's down I think03:43
Belutzlooga, yes, those mirror also provide breezy, just change the examples from warty into breezy03:43
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onkarshindeos2mac: Yes it is normal03:43
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loogashutdownrunner: you tried a japanese mirror?03:43
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wrabbitDekkard, My friends think I'm geek enough already.  They're more into gaming than anything else03:43
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BelutzAmaranth, i'm not talking about upgrading from waty into breezy, but about a wiki page :D03:43
loogashutdownrunner: how did you try it?03:43
wolverianow, mirrors are being slow03:43
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Amaranthah03:43
loogaBelutz: are you using a mirror?03:43
rancorusI am unable to use nautilus cd burner and i get an error message everytime03:43
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saik0Just because Ubuntu has lots of shiny GUIs dose'nt mean that the terminal is'nt useful and powerful anymore03:44
wolverianI guess that's to be expected :)03:44
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os2mac40 gig drive... how long to repartition... estimates are fine...03:44
AmaranthYour best bet it probably going to be the torrent.03:44
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Belutzlooga, yup, but the mirror haven't update into the release, not until midnight03:44
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Amaranthos2mac: 10 minutes or so03:44
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shutdownrunnerlooga:you can browse mirrors like normal websites. I got an error in my browser saying that the server is down03:44
os2macthanks....03:44
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thirsocan anyone please help me out? im trying to make my network adapter work, i have to do a 'make all' to install the driver but im getting this error: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1132/screenshot1qy.jpg03:44
Amaranthos2mac: this isn't windows, we don't take 1 hour/GB03:44
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btdownWho can I talk to about a blackbird login, plz?03:44
Amaranthbtdown: You'd have to tell use what blackbird is first. :)03:45
os2macI know... I am a solaris geek by trade.... first time with Linux though.....03:45
loogaBelutz: all mirrors have not been updated yet?03:45
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ScatterBrainIs there a way to have nm-applet *not* ask me for the key chain password everytime my laptop starts up?03:45
kemiksolaris :(03:45
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btdownerm...forget it. ;)03:45
Belutzlooga, the last rsync in my mirror is at 13-Oct-2005 02:38 , while breezy is out about 10am afaik03:45
kemiksun has some crappy keyboards03:45
wrabbitCheers for the help all.  Have fun.03:45
wrabbitbye for now03:45
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Daveythirso, you might want to note *what* network adapter and *what* you're compiling03:45
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Belutzlooga, depends on the mirror, i think my mirror automatically update at midnight03:45
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Belutzlooga, by the way i use the Indonesian mirrors03:46
Amaranththey closed the library on release day and this POS public access machine they let me use doesn't have a burner03:46
loogaBelutz: how do i know if a mirror is updated?03:46
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thirsoDavey: Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT, trying to comiple the driver that came with it03:46
Belutzlooga, go to the mirror link, click the dists directory, and you will see breezy directory, check the timestamp03:47
shutdownrunnerlooga: you have links for mirrors. use your browser to open them and see if there's a dir called breezy03:47
loogashutdownrunner: i clicked on the Taiwan link. IT seems quick. and it has "breezy folders" inside.03:47
btdown /msg nickserv set unfiltered on03:47
loogashutdownrunner: so how do i change from official mirror to a Taiwan mirror... safely?03:47
shutdownrunnerlooga:yeah, but the Taiwan server only mirrors cd images I think03:47
harono03:48
apoZ`I don't get the upgrade.  I already had the prelease though03:48
apoZ`help please03:48
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shutdownrunnerlooga:ok.the Taiwan server is ok03:48
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Belutzlooga, if you can wait for another hours, maybe you could use indonesian mirrors03:48
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harolooga: try ubuntu.csie.ntu.edu.tw03:48
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rancorusi want to backup my files before going to breezy but i can't burn cds03:48
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thirsoDavey: the problem is with the 'make' i guess, i had to apt-get install it03:49
Alex_BOHELLO!what's the difference between DVD and CD iso installer?03:49
Belutzubotu, tell apoZ` about ask03:49
harolooga: archive.ubuntu.org.cn   also OK03:49
Alex_BOI'm tring to download the breezy03:49
shutdownrunnerlooga: the basic address for you is http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/ubuntu/03:49
loogaharo, you in china or taiwan?03:49
BelutzAlex_BO, the DVD includes the Live CD and more packages03:49
harolooga: I am in Hong Kong,China03:49
loogashutdown, so how in the world do  i change my source? please explain as though you are talking to a newbie.03:50
harobut Hong Kong has no mirrors03:50
apoZ`Belutz, instead of whining help me please03:50
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BelutzapoZ`, i can't help you, because i don't know the problem03:50
loogaharo, how do i use a mirro?03:50
loogamirror?03:50
haroI prefer to use taiwan's03:50
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Alex_BOBelutz, and what's the difference between ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso and ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso? what's "rc"?03:50
loogaharo, how do i use a mirror?03:50
anathema_!faq03:51
ubotusomebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/03:51
shutdownrunnerlooga: in synaptic       from menu        settings->repositories03:51
kemikAlex_BO:  release candidate ?03:51
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BelutzAlex_BO, rc is release candidate, and the last one you're mentioning are the official release03:51
bipolarSeveas, ping03:51
loogashutdownrunner: is that how i should do it? Not sudo gedit sourcesFile?03:51
harolooga: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:51
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Alex_BOkemik, so...is that a preview?03:51
shutdownrunnerlooga: are you using command line, synaptic or sth else?03:51
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moebius_I changed "hoary" to "breezy" in sources.list and ran "apt-get update" but "apt-get dist-update" doesn't install anything03:52
loogashutdownrunner: i have used synaptic, but i can try gedit03:52
Belutzlooga, you could sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list if you want :D03:52
kemikmoebius_:  dist-upgrade03:52
loogaharo, i finished sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. what do i do now. Please help me. I'm a newbie03:52
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shutdownrunnerlooga: so use gedit.    $gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  do it as root03:52
sexcopter8000mhmmmm, i've now tried burning the breezy image to disc twice. once in ubuntu with k3b and once in windows with nero. both failed about half way. the md5sum is correct for the iso. any ideas?03:52
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moebius_kemik - yes sorry, I did "dist-upgrade", I just mistyped it here03:52
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Belutzlooga, do sudo apt-get update03:52
loogashutdownrunner: done. what's the next step please?03:52
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harolooga add      sth to  /etc/apt/sources.list03:53
thirsoI'm trying to install my network adapter driver, when i do 'make all' i get this error: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1132/screenshot1qy.jpg03:53
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harodeb http://ubuntu.csie.ntu.edu.tw/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse03:53
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Belutzlooga, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:53
loogaharo:  what exatly do i add?03:53
kemikmoebius_:  nothing happened? no errors no nothing ?03:53
harodeb http://ubuntu.csie.ntu.edu.tw/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse03:53
harodeb http://ubuntu.csie.ntu.edu.tw/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse03:53
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loogaharo, only one line?03:53
loogaonly one line to add?03:53
harolooga:  three lines03:53
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moebius_kemik - nothing installed. just the standard "Reading" "Building" "Calculating", and then 0 upgrade, 0 install, 0 removed, 0 not upgraded03:53
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kemikabout upgrading: read the link in topic03:53
shutdownrunnerpaste the content of your sources.list here and give me a link. this will be faster03:53
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harolooga:  just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list03:54
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kemikmoebius_:  weird.03:54
shutdownrunnerlooga: here I mean http://rafb.net/paste/03:54
harolooga: then   sudo apt-get update03:54
StFSwow... lots of people here :) hello03:54
pilgrim_executerguys, im getting extremely tired of cleaning my dads pc of spyware and viruses, the only reason he wont switch to ubuntu is because he uses his webcam on MSN messenger is there a program to do that in linux?03:54
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moebius_I tried switching mirrors but that didn't change anything and apt-get update seems to be getting everything properly03:54
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loogashutdownrunner:  haro, look at my sources list at http://rafb.net/paste/results/PxHfnV85.html03:54
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shonkeyhi guys,03:55
shonkey tried exporting the path of my jdk/bin to /etc/profile...., but it does'nt seem to work out.03:55
shonkeyi have installed the jdk in my home directory, cause i am the sole user of my machine......03:55
loogaharo, after you look at that, please tell me if i shoudl remove the deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ... lines03:55
harolooga: I am sorry, my firefox doesn't work now...03:55
shonkeyis it necessary to install jdk in some global directory like /usr or /usr/local ????03:55
loogaharo, can i pm you?03:55
shonkeyPlease Help!!03:55
shutdownrunnerlooga:you have quite a lot of this stuff03:55
harolooga: you can remove all hoary lines03:55
loogashutdownrunner: that's from the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes03:56
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saik0debian03:56
shonkeycan anyone help me03:56
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saik0durr ignore me03:56
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ranokhi all03:56
StFSpilgrim_executer: http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/03:57
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sexcopter8000mare there dvd images of breezy?03:57
apoZ`i'm tired of ubuntu, switching back to XP03:57
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apoZ`anyone can convince not to ??03:57
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Sarkielo03:57
bugzElMagnificoshonkey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:57
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shonkeycan anyone help03:57
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BelutzapoZ`, good luck with your XP :)03:58
shonkeyi need to export jdk's path03:58
bugzElMagnificoshonkey, has a section on Java installation03:58
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shonkeyhow do i do that03:58
shutdownrunnerlooga: that's all you need in your sources.list http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wn6F8G48.html03:58
blekosdo i follow the sama instructions of the link to upgrade from preview to final version?03:58
apoZ`Belutz, i don't see the advantages + not working properly03:58
bugzElMagnificoshonkey, read the page I just sent you03:58
shonkeyk03:58
pilgrim_executerStFS, thanks! great news!03:58
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BelutzapoZ`, well it's your choices to make :)03:58
spyworkhello03:58
zygawhere is the gnome clipboard daemon in ubuntu?03:58
saik0apoZ: use whatever suits your needs. we're always here to help if something is'nt working properly though03:59
spyworkchannel italian for support ubuntu?03:59
apoZ`Belutz, what are the advantages according to you03:59
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wezzerargh, my ubuntu broke up totally. Is there a gently way to install ubuntu totally from fresh, but still keep my files safe on HDD? pls help03:59
loogashutdownrunner: just 2 lines!!!?????????03:59
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shutdownrunnerlooga: yes. now just apt-get update and download packages03:59
=== ranok is updating to the newest version of Ubuntu!
peterz__now that breezy is released, where do I go for unstable ?03:59
BelutzapoZ`, i'm not cleaning my registry regularly anymore, doesn't regularly scan for spyware03:59
loogahow come official upgrade notes has 6 lines. Please I'm so confused, shutdownrunner.03:59
ranokdapper?03:59
StFSI'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on my next laptop but I'm worried about multihead support. Currently I have a Debian laptop and I have to boot up into the console and start X from there because I have to specify the X server layout (how many monitors I have) because I can't do that from the graphical login. Does anybody know if this problem is being solved somehow?04:00
shutdownrunnerlooga: the second one is hashed. just remove #  if you want to download source packages04:00
El_Chewezzer: do you have a home *patition* ?04:00
apoZ`I've never had virusses on XP04:00
SarkieHow do i make my ubuntu, ubuntu 10 offical??04:00
wezzerEl_Che: unfortunately no :/04:00
BelutzapoZ`, spyware is not virusses04:00
HiddenFlyhow can i burn divx files on a dvd so that i could watch them with a non divx compliant dvd-player?04:00
ranoksarkie: read the channel topic04:00
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mahanguthe .lk repos are _really_ slow today04:00
El_Chewezzer: boot from the live cd, backup your stuff, reinstall04:01
loogashutdownrunner: how come you give me only one line, but official upgrade instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes give 6 lines? PLease explain this to me.04:01
shonkeyk04:01
shutdownrunnerlooga: I haven't added any link for breezy updates, because there aren't any yes04:01
saik0apoz: On Ubuntu you very liely never will. Which is more than you can say about any windows installation. Theres also the fact that it's free and has a central repository of free software04:01
HiddenFlymahangu: yea cos of the release of breezy :)04:01
tristan622phi am now installing Point2Play in Ubuntu5.0404:01
mahanguHiddenFly, im using hoary repos :)04:01
loogashutdownrunner: are you sure about this?04:01
wezzerEl_Che: I would do that, but I have no place to backup my files (80 GB)04:01
HiddenFlyim happy that i upgraded it in the morning when it was still fast04:01
mahangubut same server?04:01
ranokmahangu: Proabal becuase everyone is updating04:01
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loogaare you sure only ONE line is needed? about the lines on security?04:01
wezzerEl_Che: I guess I have to buy a small HDD to keep my files there while I install ubuntu from scratch04:01
spyworkanymore know a free driver for conexant modem?04:01
Lickerdoes anyone know why my memory usage would be at 100%?04:01
rancoruswhen i update, will all my settings for the internet be deleted04:02
shutdownrunnerlooga: deb-src are packages you won't need, because they are source packages04:02
blekosspyware dont think there is nay04:02
blekosany...04:02
shutdownrunnerlooga: so now you have only 3 links04:02
blekosi hace a vaio with conexant modem04:02
necroshineLicker: check how much of your memoryusage is only swap04:02
ranokLOL, I'm still downloading the repo list04:02
blekoshavent manage to find any so for :(04:02
Sarkieranok, is that all that should be in there, nothing else?04:02
Lickersays 31% in cache04:02
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ranokyes04:02
loogashutdownrunner: but for now i can just use one link, correct? The one you gave: deb http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/ubuntu/ breezy main universe multiverse restricted?04:03
ranokwooohooo 15 kbps04:03
camilohey, is there anything that i could do to install a .package file04:03
loogashutdownrunner: sorry for my many questions. I just want to be sure i'm doing the right thing.04:03
necroshineLicker: So about 31 % are "unused"04:03
necroshinecached data only04:03
shutdownrunnerlooga: yes. you give deb [the address of the server]  and then branches [main, universe, multiverse, restricted] 04:03
Lickeryea abd I got over 500MB Ram. So how can this be..04:03
necroshineI have 1.5 GB, 100% in use, 71 % is chache.04:03
loogashutdownrunner: i hope you're not getting back at me for my attempt at being funny ("plug printer to your computer").04:03
ranokheh :)04:04
shutdownrunnerlooga: no. I'm just pissed off, because I just bought this printer and wanted to test it under linux04:04
necroshineLicker: thats completely normal04:04
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shonkeyi have installed JDK04:04
shonkeyalready04:04
necroshineRecent apps are kept in cache for a faster start in future04:05
camiloHow would i install a .package file in ubuntu?04:05
Lickeroh allright.04:05
a_monkeyheheh, there's so much traffic on ubuntu.com that just apt-get update takes forever04:05
shonkeybut need to export its path04:05
Lickeris there a antivirus program for Linux? I wanna run a check.04:05
shonkeyso that i can use it04:05
a_monkeyso many people dist-upgrading...04:05
shutdownrunnerlooga: if you want you can also add deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse04:05
ranokcould I mirror it or woun't they let anyone04:05
Sarkieshonkey, how did you install it?04:05
shutdownrunnerlooga:these are security updates if any security flaw is found04:05
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shonkeyi downloaded from SUN04:05
loogashutdownrunner: okay. I'll add that line04:05
Sarkieuse the .deb package its easier04:05
shutdownrunnerlooga: if you're not a security freak you don't need them04:05
a_monkeyi'm lucky i did it yesterday before the official release was made04:06
ChandonLicker: As far as I know, there's only checkers for Windows viruses.04:06
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a_monkeyand ubunt.com was faster04:06
xfelipexoLAS04:06
a_monkeyubuntu.com*04:06
loogashutdownrunner: okay. thanks for being cool. I just changed the sources.list file. Please be patient with me and tell me the next step.04:06
DaveyOK, all you other people downloading Breezy, quit it dammit :P04:06
xfelipexSoMEboDY COuld HELP mE04:06
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blekosapt-get is veeeryyyyyyyy slow 2day...04:06
ChandonDavey, Use the torrent - that way more people make it faster.04:06
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blekosguess 2 many upgrading :)04:06
shonkeyi have installed JDK04:06
loogashutdownrunner: i've already hit Control-C on terminal.04:06
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shonkeyalready04:06
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xfelipexMY INgLISh IS NoT So GOOD04:07
shonkeybut need to export its path04:07
saik0looga: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade04:07
DaveyChandon, I'm upgrading, not downloading the ISO04:07
shonkeyso that i can use it04:07
xfelipexBUt04:07
ranokI'm very happy that I did most of it last night04:07
rancoruswhy it there an error message saying badly encoded string when i want to burn a cd04:07
johis it just me, or are the archives *extremely* slow now? Maybe because of the breezy release? :)04:07
Sarkiesaik0, #04:07
Sarkiesudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:07
Daveyranok, I *started* last night04:07
LickerChandon: a friend has windows anmd we wer chatting and a link sent.. (it was a virus link) and I clicked on it ( she was away from the PC) I didnt know she was away cuz it sent that then she came back and siad it was a virus. Ever since then my PC has been having probs. Freezing etc.04:07
DaveyI'm at 52%, package 760 atm04:07
shutdownrunnerlooga: if you've changed your sources.list just do apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade04:07
ChandonDavey, Because I never say things offtopic, you should write an apt backend that uses bittorrent so I'll be right.04:07
DaveyChandon, sure!04:08
SarkieLicker, tell her to go to http://housecall.trenmicro.com04:08
SarkieLicker, tell her to go to http://housecall.trendmicro.com  ***04:08
SpiderManif you do an apt-get dist upgrade, does it upgrade gnome and everything ?04:08
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BelutzSpiderMan, yes04:08
LickerSarkie: what is that04:08
kjaerSpiderMan, Yes it does.04:08
loogahi bigfoot104:08
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bigfoot1hi looga04:08
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bigfoot1are you me?04:08
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SpiderManso it literally upgrades everything you have installed currently04:08
loogayes I'm you.04:08
SarkieLicker, free online virus and malware scanner, also theres a spyware scanner04:08
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SpiderManthat came with the hoary release04:09
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itamarhi04:09
Lickerohh.. allright. But what about linux?  lol04:09
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itamardoes the new installer let you resize win32 partitions cleanly during installation?04:09
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shutdownrunnerlooga: if this server turns out to be slow as well just find another one change the address and leave all the parameters as is. when you find a decen't server you'll never have to alter sources.list again04:09
saik0whoops, i thought you did upgrade when upgrading from one release to another04:09
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bretzelHI -- This is the GREAT Breezy day :-)04:09
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Dexterhi, everyone04:09
Dexter;)04:09
mwereally? :)04:09
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loogashutdownrunner: saik0:  96.3kB/s 2h10m6s. Thank you.  Thank you Thank you. Thank you.04:10
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DexterBlah Blah Blah04:10
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loogashutdownrunner: i wont't have to alter sources.list even after i finish upgrade? Will i be assured that the mirror is the exact "reflection" of the ubuntu repo?04:11
shutdownrunnerlooga: so this server is ok04:11
Belutzwow 96kBps04:11
loogashutdownrunner: thank you so much!04:11
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shutdownrunnerlooga: yes. mirrors are synced very fast04:11
loogaBelutz: yes. compare that to what i was getting 10 minutes ago with the official ubuntu repo at 7kb/s04:11
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saik0looga: huzzah04:11
mwebut there are no garantees whatsoever though04:11
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loogasaik0: is huzzah chinese for hooray?04:12
loogasaik0: how do you write thank you in chinese, using the alphabet?04:12
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Belutzlooga, well even though i use a fast mirror, my connection can only have max 15kBps :(04:12
SpiderManFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch ------ will this mess up my upgrade ?04:12
loogamwe:  no guarantees of what?04:12
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Belutzlooga: xie xie04:12
loogaHi Peter  Parker04:12
loogaBelutz: you chinese?04:13
Belutzlooga, no, i'm Indonesian :)04:13
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loogaindonesians are friendly people.04:13
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Belutzlooga, thank you04:13
saik0looga: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/huzzah04:13
shutdownrunnerlooga: if you fina a way to make Laserjet 1020 work under linux don't hesitate to tell me:)04:13
dansthi installed firestarter recently but the logging is overwhelming my /var/log/messages and dmesg. how can i change the logfile or switch it of??04:13
El_CheSpiderMan: nope04:13
WaernerHow is the server-install of Ubuntu affected when upgrading to Breezy?04:13
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Belutzlooga, i wish i could go to japan someday :)04:13
grogoreohi04:13
SpiderManthanks El_Che04:13
loogashutdownrunner: i won't hesitate.04:14
saik0looga: I only speak English and Spanish and a small amount of Japanese04:14
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loogamuy bien.04:14
El_CheSpiderMan: downloading errors is ok, it first download all the packages, than installs them04:14
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loogawell, it's good nigth for me.04:14
loogaIn 4 hours, upgrade will be done.04:14
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loogai'm looking forward to the new computer in the morning.04:14
WaernerWill it install X and stuff like that when upgrading to breezy using APT...?04:15
Belutzlooga, good night, sayonara :)04:15
loogagoodnight shutdownrunner, Belutz, saik0o04:15
grogoreoI'm running hoary atm and want to install breezy. I know about: apt-get update    then     apt-get dist-upgrade    but will updating delete all the old hoary files?04:15
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saik0looga: buenas noche04:15
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looga04:15
SpiderManwell my dist is upgradingas we speak, :004:15
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TFPhi04:15
TFPi just wondered if ubuntu fixed the HAL problem in their new release, anyone knows more04:15
Lickercan someone help me??  http://pastebin.com/39224704:15
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saik0TFP: check the breezygoals page on the wiki04:16
grogoreoSpiderMan: did you change your repositories using synaptic? or a text editor04:16
BelutzWaerner, if you already installed X it will upgrade your X04:16
TFPsaik0: ok thx04:16
SpiderMangrogoreo I vi'ed the sources.list04:16
chongbookhow different is the breezy version of the installer from the debian-installer image?04:16
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WaernerBelutz, I have the "server-installation" only04:16
GeertJLicker: did you apt-get update?04:17
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Lickerno04:17
GeertJdo that first04:17
TiMiDochongbook: read about it,04:17
grogoreoSpiderMan, and basically just substitued the hoary/warty to breezy? Do you know if your old dist's files will be deleted in place of the new ones? Or will bot dists exist04:17
GeertJand check the apt-get howto troubleshooting section04:17
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chongbookTiMiDo, thanks04:17
chongbookappreciate it04:17
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BelutzWaerner, so i think it wont installed the X automatically, but i really encourage you to read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:17
WaernerBelutz, thanks =))04:18
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spiderwormcongrats to the developers for the new release.  gj all04:18
SpiderManwell I think it cans the old ones. Because It sez that it will download 612Mb but only 150Mb will be used after the install04:18
grogoreoSpiderMan, great thanks man04:18
SpiderManI just hope by doing the update, all the new features come through, like that boot screen and the new gnome04:18
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TiMiDodamn the update is taking for ever04:19
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daanHey all. I wish to use totem as my media player but i lack video codecs. Anyone got some hints on how to install them?04:19
grogoreoGeertJ, where about is the "apt-get howto troubleshooting section"?04:19
grogoreodaan, you need to install the g-streamer ones04:20
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TFPsaik0: well there is no HAL goal, where could i find that information instead?04:20
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pangitdaan, how about going to ubuntu wiki page04:20
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twibblerHi all. May I just say very well done to the Breezy team ... Its nice, stable and does exactly what it says on the tin ......04:20
saik0TFP:the mailing list. or here, but from someone else ;D04:20
GeertJgoogle 'apt howto', section 704:20
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TFPdoesn someone else have a clue?04:21
bpfwhere is a list of mirrors to use in my apt/sources file? archive.ubuntu.com is not responding04:21
GeertJshould have said 'common errors'04:21
daanok. thanks so far. i'll mess around some more and bother you again if i get stuck04:21
Belutzbpf, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive04:21
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bpfBelutz, thanks04:22
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knosyshello04:22
grogoreowhere is the apt config file04:23
grogoreo?04:23
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chongbookgrogoreo, /etc/apt/sources.list04:23
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grogoreochongbook, thanks04:23
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johnsie2kwhat is a good download manager?04:23
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knosyshello boys and girls , i have a little problem , i dont know what can be , but running mozilla firefox , there some web sites that block my ubuntu system ,04:23
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SpiderManso does anyone know if the boot screen with the percentage bar comes through after an upgrade04:24
SpiderMan?04:24
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knosysmouse icon get blocked and i cannot do nothing :S04:24
obontuhello i just installed galeon and i get this error when trying to load it04:24
obontuINTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?04:24
obontuand i have java installed04:24
Tomcat_knosys: Can you post the website?04:24
delmonicoSpiderMan: think you need to do dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-version04:24
johnsie2kSpiderman sometimes it does and sometimes it doesnt with me04:24
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imc_Greetings all. I have an Evolution mail account looking at my home mail server. It reads all the mail but does not display inbox; how can I tell Evolution that it should use the remote (imap) inbox as my *only* inbox?04:24
Chandonjohnsie2k, Graphical or command line?04:24
knosysTomcat_, sure04:24
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smallfoot-i heared breezy just got released, so when is sleazy getting released?04:24
johnsie2kgraphical.. like Getright04:24
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smallfoot-getright? OMG!! LOL!! WTF!04:25
bpfi guess archive.ubuntu.com is responding, it's security.ubuntu.com that wasn't found04:25
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johnsie2kon better lol04:25
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johnsie2ki was just using that as an example hehe04:25
obontu??04:25
imc_Any Evolution wonks out there?04:25
Chandonjohnsie2k, Absolutely no idea. Have you checked freshmeat?04:25
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smallfoot-Ubuntu 5.20 (Sleezy)04:25
smallfoot-????????????04:25
knosysTomcat_, www.gnupg.org/gph/es/manual/x212.html04:25
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obontucan someone help please?04:25
axeusFlup.04:25
smallfoot-anyone wanna cyber????++04:26
cloudranybody knows where can I find stable breeze sources.list ?04:26
ranokthen what is dapper drake?04:26
Chandonjohnsie2k, Or even searched the ubuntu repository for "download manager"?04:26
johnsie2kwhat about  for the terminal?04:26
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smallfoot-BYE!!!!!!!!04:26
axeusI can't find the friggen Ubuntu ZSNES package.04:26
obontuwhat's that error? INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?04:26
shonkeyJAVA_HOME="/usr/java/current/"04:26
shonkeyexport JAVA_HOME;04:26
shonkey#path of course depends on where you put the jdk04:26
shonkeyPATH="$PATH:/home/flim/bin:/usr/java/current/bin"04:26
Chandonjohnsie2k, wget is awesome.04:26
shonkeyhehe!!04:26
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johnsie2kw get and then the url?04:26
shonkeywats awk used for04:26
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obontuwhere i'm supposed to put all that?04:26
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shonkeyJAVA_HOME="/usr/java/current/"04:27
shonkeyexport JAVA_HOME;04:27
shonkey#path of course depends on where you put the jdk04:27
shonkeyPATH="$PATH:/home/flim/bin:/usr/java/current/bin"04:27
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johnsie2kwhere does wget save the file?04:27
Chandonjohnsie2k, i.e. "wget http://some.server.com/some-item.tgz" or "wget -c ..." to continue a download.04:27
Chandonjohnsie2k, In the current directory.04:27
knosysTomcat_, can you open that website?04:27
Skid./w 2704:27
johnsie2kok thats great , thanks a lot04:27
Skidoops04:27
Tomcat_knosys: Works perfectly for me, and it doesn't seem to use any special plugins or Java...04:27
knosyshmm04:27
Tomcat_knosys: You might want to try to create a new Firefox profile (take out your bookmarks first)04:27
knosyswhat can be then?04:27
obontu??04:28
knosysTomcat_, can i private message you?04:28
joker667hi everybody :)04:28
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ubuntuguywhy is Ubuntu the most popular Linux distro yet there is no debian package for Java ?04:28
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Tomcat_knosys: No idea. Maybe you got something installed that's making problems.04:28
Skidthere is04:28
Tomcat_knosys: Rather not, sorry... I can't help you any further anyway.04:28
Skidsearch the forums/wiki04:28
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knosysTomcat_, you told me something about new firefox profile04:28
knosysmmm04:28
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mweubuntuguy: because of the license04:29
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knosyswhat you meaned with profile?04:29
joker667has anyone an idea if it is possible to use the proprietrary ati driver and suspend? my laptop always crashes on wakeup, without the driver it works like a charm04:29
sproingiespeaking of firefox ... why is it the only app that is virtually destroyed if i have a power glitch?04:29
ubuntuguymwe: what is it about the license?04:29
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axeus!info zsnes04:29
Tomcat_knosys: Copy ~/.mozilla to some other place, then delete the original. Upon starting Firefox, it will create a new profile. Then, try to access the website.04:29
ubotuzsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.360-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 2752 kB04:29
axeusWhere t'f is it!04:30
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axeus:(04:30
mweubuntuguy: sun java is not free software04:30
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TiMiDoaxeus: sudo apt-get install zsnes04:30
ivoksso.. new hype start today :)04:30
GreatBritonpm me if you are willing to help me get my wifi card up and running in 5.1004:30
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axeusTiMiDo: It can't find the package. :(04:30
bpfjoker667, you can write a little script to load/unload the ati driver upon suspending/waking04:30
TiMiDofor hoary or for breezy?04:30
chongbookbpf, no need for that04:30
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axeusBreezy.04:30
axeusSupposedly it's out for both, however.04:30
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bpfchongbook, how do you get it working?04:30
ubuntuguymwe: Who said, "let my software go"?04:31
bpfi have not done that, just read about it04:31
axeusBut I can't find it at packages.ubuntu.com, or with apt-cache.04:31
chongbookjoker667, in /etc/default/acpi-support or whatever the file is you can list the ati driver in the list to unload before suspending and reload after resuming04:31
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bpfchongbook, much nicer solution, thank you04:31
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mweubuntuguy: what do you mean? did you read the ubuntu filosofy?04:31
joker667chongbook, i tried this, but no luck :(04:31
chongbookdoh04:31
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ubuntuguymwe: woops... no ... that was "let my people go"04:31
axeusOnly thing I can find is visualboyadvance*04:31
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joker667bpf, any howto on this, or examplescript?04:31
ubuntuguy:-)04:32
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chongbookanyone ever attempt to install from a usb flash drive?04:32
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bpfjust a sec, let me find the link joker66704:32
shonkeyi have jre04:32
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helpmehow do i download the breezy iso...plz help!04:32
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shonkeyhow do i link it to FIREFOX04:32
shonkeyi have jre04:32
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helpmefirefox says size of breezy iso is 655.9 MB but opera says its 640.5 MB!! how do i download the iso?04:32
shonkeyi have jre04:32
shonkeyhow do i link it to FIREFOX04:32
axeusLOL04:32
chongbookhelpme, http://releases.ubuntu.com04:32
gilbert_any people here04:32
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foxinesscan any one help me to get smartlink work with breezy ?04:32
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gilbert_help me04:32
shonkeyhow do i link it to FIREFOX04:32
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shonkeyi have jre04:33
gilbert_printer driver epson stylus c4504:33
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shonkeyhow do i link it to FIREFOX04:33
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gilbert_driver04:33
gilbert_i cant print04:33
sproingieshonkey: SHUT UP04:33
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mweshonkey: link the file from the plugins subdir where java resides to the plugins dir in your firefox profile directory04:33
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axeus!info zsnes04:33
helpmefirefox says size of breezy iso is 655.9 MB but opera says its 640.5 MB!! how do i download the iso?04:33
bpfjoker667, what kind of laptop do you have?04:33
ubotuzsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.360-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 2752 kB04:33
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axeusHrmph.04:33
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GreatBritonpm me please, if you are willing to help me get my wifi card up and running in 5.1004:33
axeusThat sassafrassin modabraggin geroflaggin.04:34
joker667bpf, dell inspiron 860004:34
mindsporeIs it possible to upgrade from ubuntu (hoary) to kubuntu (breezy) with apt-get?04:34
mweshonkey: probably /home/you/.mozilla/.mozilla/plugins04:34
helpme:(04:34
sproingieanyone know what to do with firefox when it shuts down uncleanly and decides to lose half your prefs?04:34
mweshonkey: err /home/you/.mozilla/plugins that is04:34
gilbert_is opera works in ubuntu04:34
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piotrhello all, ubuntu 5.10 doesn't work with Opera 8.504:34
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Happuhelpme: try bigger, so you can be sure.04:35
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sproingiegilbert_: it works wonderfully04:35
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piotrnot for me04:35
sproingiepiotr: i'm running both.  what's the problem it's giving you?04:35
smgdevoteeHi. Can someone tell me a keyboard shortcut for exiting the Ubuntu installer?04:35
piotrlibraries04:35
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El_Chepiotr: tried the one with static libraries04:35
gilbert_printer problem04:36
piotrlibqt3-mt blocked me to install old libs04:36
sproingiesmgdevotee: escape?  if you want to be really abrupt, ctrl-alt-del will do it :)04:36
dobwanwahoo, just finished 5.1 install, first boot04:36
sproingiepiotr: hm.  what version of kde you running?04:36
TFPdoes anyone know when the unofficial guide will be updated?04:36
basvghmmm, I just downloaded a small .avi file and totem claims it doesn't have a codec (I have w32codecs installed) ... does anyone know which package I might need?04:36
gilbert_printer problem04:36
piotri've tried to do as forum.ubuntu said04:36
smgdevoteesproingee: I tried escape and it took me to a menu.. and since it hasn't resized properly for my monitor I couldn't see half the options there LOL04:36
mweshonkey: ln -s /path/to/jdk/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/you/.mozilla/plugins04:36
eracerbitmindspor: yes =)04:36
piotrbut it doesn't work04:36
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bpfjoker667, I think this is it: http://www.whiprush.org/2005/06/04:36
mindsporeeracerbit, can you tell me how?04:37
piotri'm on fresh hoary now04:37
gilbert_anybody can help me04:37
gilbert_i'am newbiew04:37
mindsporebasvg, maybe divx?04:37
war-totemany major problems dist-upgrading to breezy that ppl have expericenced here?04:37
sproingiesmgdevotee: you might try just using the text installer.  it's not much different04:37
piotrmoved out breezy upgrades04:37
helpmeHappu: i cant take chances....limited download limit...slow connection04:37
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piotri usualy use terminal for installing soft04:37
GreatBritonplease help me with setting up my wifi card04:37
gilbert_printer problem04:38
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andy_satrianihi everybody, will i get ndiswrapper eror if i upgrade my hoary to breezy04:38
Ngno more messing around with java \o/04:38
basvgmindspore: hmmm... perhaps. Do you know the exact name of the package?04:38
chongbookbpf, heh oddly enough i'm the one that gave jorge those instructions on how to muck about with acpi ;)04:38
smgdevoteeIt's just my laptop screen, it resizes properly for my desktop PC - which is what I'll actually be installing it to.04:38
gilbert_printer problem04:38
Happuhelpme: oh :( Well my firefox (with getright) informs the size as 641,40 Mb, but cant be sure. I think they both work and its just some thing...04:38
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mindsporebasvg, what do you mean?  i just wanna go from ubuntu (hoary) to kubuntu (breezy)..04:38
Happuhelpme: but i can tell you if this worked04:38
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piotri'll take breezy iso and will install fresh BB04:38
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Happuhelpme: after something like 2 hours.04:38
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tristan622phhow can i share my printer in Windows Network?04:38
basvgmindspore: never mind then ;)04:38
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TFPhow can i connect via DSL?04:39
eracerbitmindspore: yes... edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list  as root, replace all "hoary" with "breezy", then do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-default-settings"04:39
Belial-mindspore: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:39
tristan622phdo i configure the samba?04:39
gilbert_printer problem04:39
gilbert_printer problem04:39
gilbert_printer problem04:39
mindsporebasvg, oh sorry wrong person04:39
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mindsporebasvg, i don't know the exact name, but i think they have it on ubuntuguide.org (sorry if i'm not supposed to put that url here)04:39
gilbert_epson stylus c4504:39
gilbert_driver04:39
gilbert_wer i can download it04:39
GreatBritonpm me if you want to ignore me about my wifi card04:39
mwetristan622ph: yeah. look at some samba howtos, search google04:40
maximausmindspore, you can use Synaptic to change the names of the repos if you find a gui more comfy.04:40
basvgmindspore: I'll have a look, thanks04:40
eracerbithello again mwe04:40
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mweeracerbit: hi04:40
Belial-no seeders on the DVD i386 torrent04:40
gilbert_printer problem04:40
gilbert_epson stylus c4504:40
gilbert_driver04:40
daananyone else got a problem where apt-get update get's stuck on 66%?04:40
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mindsporemaximaus, eracerbit, Belial-, thanks for the info.. however; can switching to kubuntu be done after a normal upgrade to breezy?04:41
mwedaan: it works here04:41
andy_satrianianyone here got acer 3002nlci04:41
naliothdaan: i'd imagine today everything is gonna move slow04:41
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eracerbitmwe: never did get that fglrx working, went back to non-proprietary mesa-using no-dri-having driver =p04:41
maximausmindspore, yes04:41
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mweeracerbit: oh04:41
maximausmindspore, just install "kubuntu-desktop" from Synaptic.04:41
mindsporemaximaus, alright thank you :-)04:41
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maximausmindspore, you can have several environments installed and choose them on a session basis at login. :D04:42
mweeracerbit: I must admit it's a major headache getting the fglrx driver to work in breezy04:42
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daanah yeah. it didn't get stuck, just took really long hehehe04:42
davedargh.. ubuntu apt repository servers are dead today :)04:42
eracerbitmwe: but somehow, while i was dicking around with it, i broke kicker and some kde daemons, somehow =p04:42
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RedGhosthey how can i get root terminal to show in the system tools menu like it did for me in 5.0404:42
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mugenhi again04:43
mweeracerbit: aw04:43
BockBilbobyeee04:43
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mugensomeone can help's me with a MFirefox problem?04:43
mweeracerbit: maybe reinstalling kde will fix it04:43
eracerbiti dont see how ppl can use gnome or most gtk apps with that god awful file selection dialog04:43
Bjoern-Erikgilbert_: Use the gimp-print drivers04:43
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nat_eracerbit, What's wrong with the file selection dialog?04:43
eracerbityeah, thats what imdoing, reinstalling kicker and a bunch of other kde krap04:44
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maximausnat_,  it doesn't look xp'y enough. :P04:44
eracerbitits fiddly04:44
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eracerbittheres nowhere to type a path, no autocompletion04:44
maximauseracerbit, you just need to learn some shortcuts with it--it's really nice once you've gotten used to it.04:44
El_Cheeracerbit: ctrl + l04:44
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sridUSplash not working for me after dist-upgrade :(04:45
xukunupdate or apt-get is not working for breezy. Are you guys also having this problem?04:45
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eracerbitok, that control-l is good, how come that box isnt on the dialog itself tho04:45
daanupdate and apt-get ARE working. it just takes realy long04:45
El_Chexukun: probably your mirror (you are using a mirror, right?) is being hammered. *everyone* is upgrading right now ...04:45
maximauseracerbit, it's a bit of "simplification"04:45
mugensomeone can help's me with a MFirefox problem?04:46
El_Cheeracerbit: because is mostly not needed.04:46
shonkey ln -s /usr/lib/sun-j2sdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/04:46
shonkeySo just change IBM JDK path there, and same for Mozilla:04:46
shonkeyln -s /usr/lib/sun-j2sdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/04:46
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eracerbitseriously kdes file selector kicks the shit outta this, full kioslaves for previews of pics, docs, movies, anything right in the box, autocompletion, etc etc04:46
selinium_Hi there,are all the hoary repo offline?04:46
El_Cheeracerbit: if your needs are advanced enough to need it, you'll do find with keyb shortcuts04:46
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xukunEl_Che, hmm beter wait then04:46
robbkiddSo, what adjective do I put in my sources.list to keep following the development version?04:46
bpfchongbook, that's funny you gave him those instructions. are you using a thinkpad?04:47
naliothselinium_: you know today they're getting hammered04:47
ichiHas anyone done a dist-upgrade to 5.10 with out problems ?04:47
El_Cheeracerbit: I have never seen a regular user type the path in linux / windows/ mac04:47
robbkiddDamn stable releases! I want my crashes!04:47
El_Cheeracerbit: click click04:47
chongbookbpf, no i'm using an asus s5n04:47
mweshonkey: I would link it to the plugins dir in the profile dir, but that's just me04:47
eracerbityeah, thats tru, click click =/04:47
ScatterBrainSomething telss me that "Network Manager" is quite ready for prime time.04:47
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eracerbitpoint well taken04:47
noddabawhere can I find the list of repository mirrors (if there are any)?  i see the list of download mirrors, can those sites be used in my sources.list?04:47
ingenieratorhello, i just see the relase of the 5.10 it's possible to upgrade a 5.04 dist to a 5.10 via apt ?04:47
chongbookScatterBrain, apparently its fine if you use fedora04:47
robbkiddDid a dist-upgrade to Breezy before it was released and had no problems.04:47
naliothichi: lots of us. it's the preferred method for upgrading04:47
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ScatterBrainchongbook: heh.04:47
daaningenierator: Better to just do a fresh install04:47
bpfchongbook, I have a thinkpad x40 and I haven't messed with it much yet, but I don't think the suspend/hibernate is working properly04:48
chongbookScatterBrain, it was developed by redhat afterall04:48
gilbert_printer problem04:48
gilbert_i cant print04:48
gilbert_why?04:48
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sproingieeracerbit: kde file manager and file dialogs are really the main reason i run kubuntu04:48
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chongbookbpf, there's info on the wiki to make the thinkpads work iirc04:48
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ScatterBrainchongbook: Yeah, I may switch back to wifi radar.04:48
gilbert_pls. pls, entertain me pls.04:48
gilbert_i'am newbie04:48
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SpiderManlots of my packages of faling to d/load, should I be worried :)04:48
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chongbookScatterBrain, i have my own custom perl script that does the same as networkmanager04:48
chongbookdo everything through interfaces04:48
ingenieratordon't work proppertly ?04:48
El_Cheingenierator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:48
chongbookand then bound to an acpi event04:48
zenlinuxNHDon't forget to check out the "Extreme Ubuntu Install Challenge" for a few laughs: http://www.zenlinux.com/ubuntu_challenge/04:49
chongbookits hot04:49
hypnoxhas anyone else got the bug relating to 'find in page' in firefox??04:49
chongbookzenlinuxNH, my ubuntu laptop has been to the top of mt fuji ;)04:49
El_Chechongbook: do you use zaenity on your script?04:49
chongbookEl_Che, no04:49
El_Chechongbook: thinking of doing it too04:49
zenlinuxNHchongbook: nice!04:49
eracerbitsproingie: same here... would love to see someone come up with a way of abstracting those dialogs so gtk apps run under KDE would have KDE-style file dialogs.. thtwould rock04:49
daanSpiderMan: you have to be realy patient when downloading. It will start eventualy04:49
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chongbookzenlinuxNH, it was raining though so i couldnt take the laptop out04:49
gilbert_how can i now that my ubuntu is stable or unstable04:49
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zenlinuxNHchongbook: sounds like some pretty "extreme" conditions. :)04:50
sproingieeracerbit: technically, it shouldn't even be that hard04:50
SpiderMandaan: did your packages fail though,04:50
robbkiddHmmm. <pokes his APT source targets>  They're a little pokey today.04:50
ichinalioth. just curious and a little anxious about the possability of loosing some of my system I did not realise it was the preferd way04:50
robbkiddI wonder what's up.04:50
chongbookzenlinuxNH, indeed04:50
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Toma-i wonder why ubuntu.com is lagged04:50
daanSpiderMan: no they didn't fail. But it got stuck at 66% for a few minutes.04:50
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eracerbitheheheheh i wonder....04:50
TrackilizerJust wanted to ask, will i lose all my settings after i do "ap-get dist-upgrade"04:50
Trackilizer?04:50
eracerbitwhy could ubuntu's servers be slow.. hmmmm04:50
sproingieeracerbit: you'd need a stub of some sort on the gtk side that invoked the kde dialog via some ipc intermediary and got the result back the same way04:50
SpiderManmine are actually failing, Connection failed [IP: 82.211.81.151 80]  ? ?04:51
mustard5Trackilizer, I wouldnt think so04:51
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eracerbiti think gtk and qt read the filesystem differently04:51
naliothTrackilizer: no you will not. your system uses apt-get, which is designed to upgrade seamlessly04:51
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daanSpiderMan: hmm i don't know why that is. maybe your server is overloaded04:51
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eracerbitbut if the dialogs return the results to the app the same, like say just a string for the path, it should work fine04:51
TrackilizerSo, all it will do is update my system but my settings will all stay the same?04:51
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Trackilizercool!04:52
sproingieeracerbit: perhaps, but they don't need to know about each other.  the gtk app would never know another dialog took over04:52
naliothTrackilizer: correct04:52
spiralhi04:52
TrackilizerGreat!04:52
athloncould someone with breezy please send me their /etc/apt/sources.list ? think I've mangled mine04:52
RedGhosthow can i access the root terminal?04:52
TrackilizerAnother thing i wanted to know, is where can i find the apple quicktime plugin for Firefox?04:52
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eracerbitsproingie: maybe someone has done this? ill google around for it04:52
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naliothubotu: tell athlon about sources04:52
war-totemcan someone point me to a resource to learn how to back up files in ubuntu?04:53
daanathlon: there should be a backup in that folder04:53
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Toma-anyone in WA, au, have a decent mirror of kubuntu?04:53
sproingieanyone know how to switch tabs with the keyboard in xchat?04:53
athlonthanks !04:53
naliothTrackilizer: you need the mplayer plugin and libquicktime004:53
ingenieratorvery thank man04:53
SpiderMandon't know, but I'm going to let it run and see what happens,04:53
joker667bpf, this doesnt help me, i already told him to unload the modules manually04:53
robbkiddTrackilizer: Well, you've got two sets of settings.  One set is your user account settings, which will not be touched at all.  The other set in your system settings, generally kept in /etc, which APT will update only if you haven't customized them.  For those you have customized, APT/dpkg will ask you to resolve conflicts.  No worries.04:53
RedGhosthow can i run the root terminal?04:53
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SpiderMandoes anybody know where I can get a list of mirrors ? So I know where mine is going04:53
bpfjoker667, sorry, just trying to help04:53
selinium_RedGhost, You can use sudo to run commands or sudo su to change to root04:54
RedGhostyeah i know but its easier to just launch the root terminal04:54
darkbirdwhat should i do? my sudo apt-get update froze at 44%!!!!!04:54
RedGhostsaves a few lines04:54
TrackilizerSo, i can install the quicktime plugin using Synaptic?04:54
war-totemanyone?04:54
RedGhostbut it isnt in the menu like it wa for 5.0404:54
ichiRedGhost. sudo xterm04:54
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naliothdarkbird: the servers are being hammered today. stop your process and try it again later04:54
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naliothTrackilizer: if you have all your repos enabled, yes04:55
darkbirdnevermind, it just continued04:55
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joker667bpf, ok, thanks for that04:55
eracerbitsprongie: oops... it's not contol-q, thats for sure04:55
selinium_Hi nalioth :) Busy today, I wonder why?04:55
war-totemcan someone point me to a resource to learn how to back up files in ubuntu?04:55
ichiI think i'm going to wait a day or two looking at this ;)04:55
TrackilizerOkie thanks alot, will try that now, will be back it a bit if that doesnt work04:55
naliothselinium_: hmmmm, i'd have to think hard on that one04:55
robbkiddwar-totem: www.google.com ?04:55
eracerbitxchat looks preety cool with its transparency effect04:55
joker667anybody else out there, who has working ati-drivers and standby on a laptop04:55
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chongbookwar-totem, i'm a big fan of tar but that's not very n00b friendly04:55
Toma-when does breezy come out? :D04:56
chongbookToma-, topic04:56
kemikToma-:  really ?04:56
eracerbithey, mwe, are you still around04:56
Toma-chongbook: i know :P04:56
chongbook;)04:56
robbkiddwar-totem: What sort of files are you interested in backing up?  User documents? User source code? User settings? System settings?04:56
war-totemchongbook, what is more noob friendly?04:56
Toma-when does the next ubuntu come out?04:56
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kemikToma-:  6months04:56
chongbookwar-totem, dunno i've always used tar04:56
Toma-oh cool04:56
chongbookheh04:56
Toma-didnt expect that04:56
chongbookwar-totem, maybe archive manager?04:56
Toma-just trying to annoy the helpers ;)04:56
naliothToma-: the releases are numbered in year and month of release, therefore ubuntu 6.04 will be out in april 200604:57
vanbykowhello, how can i installl xmms?04:57
darkbirdi have another question, after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is done, do I reboot, THEN apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop, or do I just do that afterwards, without rebooting????04:57
war-totemchongbook, thanks ill check them both out04:57
naliothToma-: dont tease the zoo animals, please04:57
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Toma-orsom04:57
war-totemvanbykow, sudo apt-get install xmms04:57
chongbookvanbykow, open up synaptic and search for xmms04:57
robbkiddWhat's 6.04's [adjective]  [animal] ?04:57
naliothvanbykow: use synaptic04:57
chongbookand check the box for installing it and click apply04:57
Toma-just annoyed coz none of my local mirrors have it yet :(04:57
naliothrobbkidd: dapper drake04:57
naliothToma-: jump on the torrent04:57
gilbert_ubuntu suuuuks printer detection04:57
foxinessis here who use smartlink with breezy?04:58
selinium_war-totem, Have a look a rsync for running your backups04:58
mcbenhi every body04:58
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Toma-hmmm. perhaps. after midnight so i dont fill my quota :D04:58
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vanbykowyes, but the problem is that he not find the source for install it.04:58
occyw00p04:58
occybreezy++04:58
gilbert_hi04:58
gilbert_how are you mcben04:58
occynot 1 thing was broken on it.04:58
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naliothubotu: tell vanbykow about sources04:58
mcbengilbert_: fine thx ;-)04:58
chongbookoccy, speak for yourself ;)04:58
naliothubotu: tell vanbykow about repos04:58
robbkiddnalioth: And the Mandrake^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HMandriva people are okay with this?04:58
selinium_occy, yet! :)04:58
chongbooki cant boot the breezy kernel04:58
occyVideo, audio, everything worked.04:58
occyselinium, heh04:59
yonilQ: how can i make nautilius display the location bar as default (the one that lets me enter a location) +04:59
yonil?*04:59
naliothrobbkidd: okay with what?04:59
chongbookif i do i cant sudo, and my wifi card and keyboard become mutually exclusive ;)04:59
occyI had problems with Hoary and video, not major, but it worked with no problem this time.04:59
sproingienalioth: huh, i never figured that version convention before.  tho with debian and ubuntu, i hardly ever speak of version numbers, just names04:59
Toma-robbkidd: mandrake is a plant04:59
Toma-afaik04:59
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occy:)04:59
mcbeni've just upgraded to kubuntu breezy. what should i have to do to beneficit from the laptop support enhancement ?04:59
ChandonAnyone have any idea what mirrors aren't borked?04:59
Toma-nothing to do with ducks04:59
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occychongbook, sorry. :(04:59
robbkiddnalioth: Dapper *DRAKE*. Just a joke, and not a very good one.04:59
gilbert_click your dick04:59
gilbert_hehehehe04:59
gilbert_hehehe04:59
gilbert_hmmmmmmmmmmmm04:59
gilbert_it suuuuuuk04:59
gilbert_s04:59
occychongbook, you upgrade or do a complete re-install?05:00
sproingiemcben: i imagine settings:/ has some laptop items?05:00
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chongbookoccy, upgrade05:00
aleitnerAre the ubuntu apt servers failing for anybody else? I cannot seem to do an 'apt-get update'05:00
occychongbook, ahh, did you use any Ubuntu Guide stuff?05:00
occychongbook, in the past?05:00
naliothaleitner: yes, the server(s) are being hammered today05:00
sproingiealeitner: not working for me either05:00
chongbooki'm going to do a fresh install as soon as i hack up a method of getting the installer on a usb flash drive05:00
aleitnernalioth: so they are just busy?05:00
sproingiealeitner: ah, it's release day05:00
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chongbookno i only use stock hoary stuff05:00
chongbooker used05:00
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aleitnersproingie: indeed (;05:00
naliothaleitner: yes. breezy released earlier today05:00
occychongbook, hmmm ok.  Yeah, I figured I'd just start with base install.05:00
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aleitnerah, now i get a little ... (;05:01
occychongbook, backup everything.05:01
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sproingiethere it goes.  yeah, it's just slow05:01
occychongbook, before you start nuking :)05:01
chongbookoccy, way ahead of ya ;)05:01
robbkiddI update on a release day and all I got are four library tweaks and a new OpenOffice help file!?!?  Where's all this stability coming from!?! Where's my slew of bug fixes!?05:01
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occy;)05:01
occyokies, time to restore my files05:01
occyheh05:01
mcbensproingie: sure.. there's something about that but nvram modules seems not be present :/05:01
occybbl05:01
mcbeninsmod nvram fails :/05:01
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wezzerphew05:01
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robbkiddaleitner: Give it some time.  Mine took a few minutes to catch.05:01
wezzerluckily I got breezy to work05:01
wezzerbut that wasn't easy05:01
sproingiemcben: not sure.  try #kubuntu.  i don't use a laptop myself05:01
RedGhostichi: thanks i added xterm to menu05:01
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sam_I just upgraded to breezy and now xchat doesnt work anymore.05:02
chongbookanyone know of a wiki page or anything on installing from a usb flash drive?05:02
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Toma-anyone got the torent file for kubuntu breezy? :(05:02
chongbookmy cdrom kicked the bucket yesterday...05:02
darkbirdwish me luck, I'm dist-upgrade'ing05:02
naliothchongbook: you found nothing at wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  ?05:02
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naliothdarkbird: you'll be ok05:02
ichiRedGhost. your welcome .05:02
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mcbensproingie: ok, i'll try. thx05:03
Sonderbladedoes the mirrors of the ubuntu repositories have breezy yet?05:03
naliothSonderblade: yes05:03
chongbooknalioth, a search of the wiki for 'install usb' yields 0 results05:03
chongbookbut i'm loading that page now05:03
eracerbitSonderblade, nalioth: where are the mirrors??05:03
robbkiddAll my joking aside: Ubuntuers -- Well done.  I've been enjoying using the Badger now for several weeks.05:03
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chongbookwow05:04
naliotheracerbit: www.ubuntulinux.org/download    has quite a few mirrors listed05:04
jaramilloi dont understand it. Why cant i browse ntfs partitions by default, but i can do it by going System > Administration > Disks. If i am the same normal (no-root) user ;-\05:04
chongbookinstall from usb flash drive is not on the advanced install page on the wiki05:04
jaramillo<-- Breezy ;D05:04
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mrimbertmorning, nalioth05:05
eracerbitnalioth: rawsome05:05
naliothMorrowyn: MrStealth05:05
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Chandoneracerbit, http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu/ is the only one that was reasonably fast.05:05
EasterSunshinehello, all. i was wondering if there is a way to run a process but limit its total cpu usage to 20% no matter how idle the rest of the system is05:05
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eracerbitChandon: SHHHH!! ;p j/k05:06
chongbookEasterSunshine, unfortunately operating systems aren't designed to do that05:06
Chandoneracerbit, I'm done with it =P05:06
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EasterSunshine=( my cpu has bad heating and it will shut off if i keep it at 100% for too long05:06
Toma-EasterSunshine: nice05:07
ChandonEasterSunshine, And a software hack is really a better plan than fixing the cooling issue?05:07
vanbykowced05:07
chongbooka software hack would be an understatement05:07
chongbookyou'd have to screw with the scheduler05:07
chongbooka lot05:07
sproingiechongbook: any reasonable OS can put a governer on CPU usage.05:08
Toma-EasterSunshine: nice is kinda like a cpu throttle05:08
EasterSunshineChandon: yes, the thermal grease is like $20 usd, new motherboard is like $60 usd05:08
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Morrowyn???05:08
Toma-asif $20us. i can get it for $12au05:08
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Morrowynwazzup nalioth05:08
chongbooksproingie, not anything recent, new operating systems are designed to always keep the cpu busy05:08
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sproingieEasterSunshine: you can renice the process, something like nice 10 <pid> ... it won't help if it really spikes the CPU, but it'll let other things run05:09
chongbooklimiting it to anything other than 100% is a waste05:09
EasterSunshineToma-: but even if i set the priority low, it will still use like 90% when available, right?05:09
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Toma-EasterSunshine: no idea.05:09
vanbykowhello05:09
naliothMorrowyn: mad rush for all available badgers, watch your feet05:09
ChandonEasterSunshine, What are you trying to run, distributed.net or something?05:09
sproingiechongbook: on idle, when they're not in some powersave mode, sure.  idle priority doesnt count05:09
EasterSunshineChandon: rzip05:09
Toma-either that or tun off your thermal shutdown in the bios and pray to god that it doesnt melt05:09
chongbooksproingie, renicing a process doesnt make it use less cpu it just makes it yield the cpu to other processes the scheduler still tries to keep the cpu busy at all times05:10
sproingieEasterSunshine: with a stock kernel, yes, it'll tend to spike and dip a lot.  if it's really gone berzerk, you probably should consider an alternative to that app05:10
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ChandonEasterSunshine, Does i have any flags that really hurt performance like a "I totally have 20 megs of cache" flag?05:10
RedGhostnew gnome kicks ass05:10
EasterSunshineChandon: nope05:11
ChandonEasterSunshine, Rats.05:11
sproingiechongbook: i know how operating systems work.  and no OS tries to spin the CPU at full use all the time, in fact linux goes out of its way to sent HLT when idle05:11
chongbookso if there arent any other processes that need to be run then it will put that reniced process back on the cpu and you still get your overheating problem05:11
ivardamn. the /.'ing has happened.. i thought things were rough when I was getting 20kbps.. now I'm getting 2kbps.05:11
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eracerbithey, anyone know if breezy 'backports' and extras are up05:12
dreamwavegood morning (well, it is here).  i'd like to reformat my usb drive.  the partition shows up in the gnome disks manager program but the buttons to create a new partition are grayed out.  what do i do?05:12
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ivarsproingie, all the means is that you can't procrastinate by surfing /.05:12
sproingiechongbook: you are right about nice not being an answer to overheating.  what he needs is speedstep or powernow or whatever they're calling it now05:12
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eracerbithey, look, guys, ubuntu's here05:12
chongbooksproingie, exactly05:12
eracerbitoh he left05:12
sproingieivar: true, though i feel myself becoming smarter each day i'm not on /.05:12
yanchengany hugin user here?05:13
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kenroAnyone here has a yahoo! mail account?05:13
eracerbitheheh i love wasting time on /.05:13
Morrowynoh ok :)05:13
sproingiei loved it too much.  and it brought out the worst in me05:13
eracerbitits like reading the same story 1200 different ways05:13
piotrkkenro: i have05:13
piotrbut i'm usin it on win05:14
kenropiotr: I need dl a bunch of email.05:14
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Morrowyni can distupgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 right?05:14
sproingiei think what burned me most about slashdot is that i had good geek journalist friends who couldn't find any work, while the editors at /. were being *paid* for what they did05:14
chongbookMorrowyn, read the release notes05:14
piotri have gmail acount too05:14
sam_Anyone else having xchat crashing after upgrading to breezy?05:14
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sproingiei should accept that injustice exists, but it rankled me all the same05:14
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Morrowyn:)05:15
Morrowynwell ill be upping it next week or so05:15
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eracerbitheheh yeah, didnt realize those mods got paid05:15
Morrowynwhen i have my floptop back05:15
Morrowyn:)05:15
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Morrowynthanks for the info btw05:15
sproingieeracerbit: not the mods, the uh, "editors"05:15
twystedlets take the office topic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)05:15
robbkiddsproingie: The "editors" at Slashdot are there to accept stories about stories that will bring readers to look at advertisements.  Very different than journalism and, unfortunately, pays better.05:15
piotrkenro: how can ya do that?05:16
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chongbookMorrowyn, short answer is yes you should just be able to change yer sources.list but you should always read the release notes (good practice)05:16
KimppaHello. Can you recommend some software for browsing my file system (KDE)? Konqueror keeps crashing more often than IE on windows o_O05:16
eracerbitsproingie: what, the people that write the little blurb on top and copy the first paragraph of the article?05:16
damo21RAY CHARLES IS THE KING!05:16
damo21:D05:16
kenropiotr: Beats the * outa me...05:16
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bronsonWow.  The mirrors appear to be hammered.  I blame OOo 2.0.05:16
bronsonKimppa: Roxen Filer?05:16
Sonderbladeis breezy very much slower because of gcc 4.0?05:16
sproingierobbkidd: they don't even do that effectively.  i guess it's whatever remains of work ethic in me.... that and alienation from 99% of the community there05:16
chongbookSonderblade, not from what i can tell05:16
Renskiwhy would gcc 4 slow it down?05:16
bronsonSonderblade, wouldn't that make it faster?05:17
Renskiand second question...breezy comes with gcc 4?05:17
chongbookyes05:17
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damo21gcc 4 should speed it up if u compile it for your arch05:17
damo21:)05:17
chongbooker well05:17
robbkiddsproingie: I hear ya. ..er.. Read ya.05:17
chongbookno05:17
chongbooki think you need build-essential to get gcc05:17
Sonderbladegcc 4 is said to be slower than 3.405:17
piotrkenro: you mean spam?05:17
daanis it possible to get color markings in a console text editor like vim?05:17
chongbookgcc4 should be slower05:17
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chongbookits been revamped quite a bit05:17
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chongbookbut it will get faster in the near future i'd imagine05:17
sproingiegcc4 has optimization problems with math-heavy stuff.  they're fixing it already05:18
Renskichongbook: wouldnt that make the compile, rather than the running slower?05:18
robbkiddSlower to *compile* or code that it compiles *runs* slower?05:18
damo21why would anyone release a gcc that is slower?05:18
Renskirobbkidd: ditto05:18
chongbookcompiles code that runs slower iirc05:18
sproingieit was doing some silly back-and-forth register swapping with FP05:18
kenropiotr: Some might say that, but it's basiccally legitimate email.05:18
chongbookdamo21, its the first release of the next major version05:18
Sonderbladei guess it also depends on what compile options the ubuntu devs have used05:19
chongbookyea05:19
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chongbooknot that it really matters05:19
sproingiedaan: vim has syntax hilighting built in.  just put 'syntax enable' as the first line in your .vimrc, and start vim as vim, not vi05:19
chongbookthe kernel was compiled with gcc3.405:19
chongbookand the kernel is the only thing that really matters05:19
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sproingiekernel actually doesn't get much out of compiler optimization05:19
chongbookdont let the gentoo guys get to ya05:19
daansproingie: thanks :)05:19
damo21ubuntu isnt heavily optimised... so how can gcc4 make a difference... ubuntu 386 code works on most x86 platforms05:19
sproingiethe kernel's almost entirely i/o bound05:20
piotrkenro: try to ask someone else, i'm sorry, i cannot help ya05:20
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wrabbitHey all. I keep getting the odd error when I try to update my sources.  Not sure why05:20
Renskichongbook: were talking small problems with some programs then?05:20
Sonderbladechongbook: the -g option that adds debug info and -fomit-frame-pointer are influental05:20
chongbookRenski, i'd not think there will be problems05:20
Renskitill the gcc guess get it sorted05:20
wickedpuppywrabbit, what you get ? can paste if its not too long ?05:20
david__hi i'm talking from my recently installed ubuntu 5.10: the first time i install linux and all went perfect!!! :D05:20
kenropiotr: You spoke up. :) Thanks anyway.05:20
ranokhow do you get quicktime .movs to work on linux?05:20
ranokubunut05:20
Renskis/guess/guys/05:20
sproingiedavid__: congratulations and welcome05:20
chongbookRenski, the packages have gone under intense QA05:20
robbkiddDavid: Well done and congradulations.05:21
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chongbookyou should be fine05:21
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Renskiyay daved05:21
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damo21i cant find a decent cd to burn ubuntu iso onto so i cant use it lol05:21
Renski(david05:21
chongbookas long as yer not going crazy adding 3rd party repos to your sources.list05:21
phreakshowHey05:21
mrimbertdavid__: right on!05:21
wrabbitwickedpuppy, they're quite long... I'll try to update again and I'll paste into pastebin05:21
wickedpuppyokie05:21
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sam_Woot, this update ruined both xchat and gaim.05:21
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phreakshowHow do i delete history in mozzilla firefox?05:21
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Renskisam_ define ruined?05:21
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piotrgaim suxx05:21
sam_Renski: they crash when starting05:21
dooglusdamo21: you can mount a .iso in loopback mode.  you don't need to burn it05:21
Renskiphreakshow: theres a menu item for it on the beta release, iirc05:22
RenskiI think that release went live05:22
gleesondI want to fromat my NFTS partition and move my music into my home dir... first is that good. second is there a way to make the partition that my home dir is in bigger?05:22
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occyhow do I set the mirror I am using via command line?05:23
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occyI've installed breezy already05:23
chongbookoccy, run apt-setup05:23
robbkiddDoes Ubuntu have a sort of apt-spy to test mirror response?05:23
occychongbook: ahhh, danke :)05:23
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robbkiddI probably shouldn't be hanging off of the main archive.05:23
windex_hm.05:23
robbkiddAh. Nevermind.05:23
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occyprobably a bad idea to try and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade right now.05:24
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occyheh05:24
mindsporeman is dist-upgrade sloowwww,05:24
adyhiiiiiiiii05:24
occymindspore: nod05:24
chongbookoccy, just use a fast mirror ;)05:24
mindsporegetting like 14-25kb/s05:24
occychongbook: heh, they exist?05:24
mindsporeoh well, not in a hurry05:24
chongbookoccy, lug.mtu.edu (the mirror i run)05:24
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kenroBah. I have over 150 emailed reports from infowars.com and can do nothing with them but read remotely.05:25
tristan622phwhat is the best CD Ripper for Ubuntu?05:25
Enliteim looking for a snmp monitoring/notification package.. anyone have any recomendations? Ive looked into Hybodus, however its WAY to expensive05:25
tristan622phMP3 Ripper i mean05:25
occychongbook: hmmm, that in the list in apt-setup?05:25
tristan622phCD to MP305:25
adyhi all05:26
chongbookoccy, it is for debian but i dunno about ubuntu05:26
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wrabbitJust before I try again... I think it may have worked earlier on in the day.  These are the software sources listed and ticked... CD ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" (Binary... Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" (Source) ... Ubuntu 5.10 Updates (Binary) ... Ubuntu 5.10 Updates (source) ,,, Ubuntu 5.10 BB Binary... Ubuntu 5.10 bb source ... Ubuntu 5.10 securityt updates srouce ... ubuntu 5.10 security updates binary and ubuntu 6.10 security up05:26
wrabbitdates source05:26
tristan622phhi too05:26
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oSxhey anyone know if the extra repositories in unoffical ubuntuguide works with 5.10?05:26
adyI am joined05:26
wrabbitwhoah.. sorry. Pretty long05:26
tristan622phyes you are05:26
adyhi all05:26
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occychongbook: under Ubuntu it shows global areas.05:26
adyhi all05:26
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Toma-thats just dandy...05:26
oSxhey anyone know if the extra repositories in unoffical ubuntuguide works with 5.10?05:26
helpmecan we stop greetings now05:26
wrabbitMaybe it's giving me an error because I'm trying to update them again05:26
wrabbitnot sure05:26
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mrimbertady: ok, please stop repeatin05:27
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adyany girl here?05:27
dooglusoSx: if anyone knows, they'll probably tell you.  you don't need to keep asking05:27
adychat with me05:27
sproingiesomeone boot ady05:27
wrabbitAny help would be great cosI'm trying to install multimedia codecs and dvd playback05:27
dooglusady: ffs!05:27
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chongbookoccy, ahh apparently if you tell it to use a mirror in the us it just defaults to us.ubuntu.something05:27
adyany girl here?05:27
adychat with me05:27
adyany girl here?05:27
adychat with me05:27
adyany girl here?05:27
adyany girl here?05:27
helpmeyes im a girl05:27
adyany girl here?05:27
sproingieannoybot.  ban the host.05:27
adyany girl here?05:27
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wrabbitmost mm codecs work bar a couple.  DVD playback won't and gives me an error when I try to apt-get install it05:27
helpmechat with me and have ur best time...lol05:27
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chongbookoccy, if you wanna use my mirror head to http://lug.mtu.edu and add it to your sources.list by hand05:27
ericmoritzwhat the?05:28
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sproingiemrimbert beats nalioth to the punch.  yer both my heroes tho :)05:28
wrabbitAnybody?05:28
naliothady: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please05:28
dooglusady is a bot.05:28
mrimbertsproingie: :)05:28
Slaj_RQuestion:  I learned how to change the splash screen, but how do I change the bgcolor behind the splash screen from brown to something else?05:28
piotrsee ya05:28
Nicolinuxhi folks, I just installet latest Ubuntu 5.10 and now upon boot the X server start but the screen goes dark - help I am lost05:28
piotrstartx05:28
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helpmeNicolinux: reboot05:29
Nicolinuxdonethat :)05:29
[yzero] Anyone know any ftp site I can get breezy from?05:29
wrabbitDid anybody read my above question or did I just type out all the sources for nothing?05:29
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helpmewrabbit: have patience05:29
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Shadowline[yzero] : notice the topic of the channel, I believe the links are there05:30
Nicolinuxwrabbit: yeah like me - I've rebooted - still nothing :)05:30
nalioth[yzero] : www.ubuntulinux.org/download     has mirrors05:30
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helpmehmmm.try kubuntu..is better than ubuntu:D05:30
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mrimbertNicolinux: please switch to a console and inspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:30
SonderbladeSlaj_R: you mean GNOME's splashscreen?05:30
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dooglus[yzero] : where in the world are you?05:31
Nicolinuxmrimbert: did that too - it detects the card correctly -> radeon mobility 9600 pro05:31
Projekt-X0111001101100011011100100110010101110111001000000111010105:31
wrabbitI'm running XFCE if that has anything to do with it05:31
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Slaj_Rnever mind, I think I found it.05:31
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yz1grrr05:31
Nicolinuxmrimbert: I've got the feeling that it does akward things with the DST - is this the default now?05:31
wrabbitmight be the hardware but I dunno... I'm running it on a thinkpad05:31
Slaj_RI got that confused w/ desktop background.05:31
Toma-Projekt-X: no, screw you.05:31
mrimbertToma-: be nice05:32
Toma-he said it first :(05:32
Toma-in binary05:32
Slaj_RIs the default value saved somewhere?  Or should I take a note of it if I want to go back to the original?05:32
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daanconvince me to try kubuntu instead of ubunty :P05:32
Projekt-XH?05:32
codowhat version of KDE kubuntu has now ?05:33
frank233.4.305:33
dooglus[yzero] : the US FTP site is ftp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/05:33
mrimbertNicolinux: not sure what happened then...you're using fglrx?05:33
Toma-daan: kde has a compmgr built into the wm05:33
Nicolinuxmrimbert: it is the first start after the install05:33
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Nicolinuxmrimbert: so, no05:33
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adwaitcodo: but u can get 3.5beta05:33
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frank23the repositories are down?05:33
adwaitfrank23: no.........but probably overloaded05:34
naliothfrank23: repos are being hammered05:34
mrimbertNicolinux: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to verify it's setup correctly?05:34
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Nicolinuxmrimbert: no, good idea thanks - i will do it now05:34
mrimbertNicolinux: you might also consider trying to install the fglrx drivers, if you want to05:34
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sproingieanyone using the r300 drivers?  they any good?05:35
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wrabbithttp://pastebin.com/392325 < -- this is what I get when I try to apt-get install libdvdcss205:35
wrabbitPlease help05:35
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ktogiasTrying to apt-get update in breezy connection to http://archive.ubuntu.com is very slow or just fails... Are servers stressed due to the todays' release?05:35
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naliothubotu: tell wrabbit about hoary-extras05:35
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dooglusktogias: you guessed it05:35
wrabbitI'm in breeze nalioth05:35
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wrabbitI just wanna get dvds to work05:36
naliothwrabbit: that's the only place i know to get what you want05:36
ericmoritzhow long does the update take generally? on like 3.0dsl05:36
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lexxAnyone know an ftp site for ubuntu.. pls quick before my connection dies lol05:36
nightswimomg lol05:36
Nicolinuxmrimbert: yes I will try the ati bins but it's a shame that ubuntu chokes on an dell inspiron 8600...05:36
naliothericmoritz: if the servers aren't being hammered, a few minutes05:36
MFenjust thought i'd drop by and say congratulations.  i'm downloading the torrent right now05:36
doogluslexx: ftp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/05:36
lexxThanks!05:36
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lexxnow i can goto bed =] 05:37
doogluslexx: it's the same site as the http...05:37
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doogluslexx: just a different protocol05:37
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lexxI know.. I need resume05:37
lexxthats why i want ftp05:37
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daanubuntu site is getting hammered too :(05:37
doogluslexx: why not use bittorrent?05:37
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wrabbitSo synaptic or apt-get can't help me?  It worked fine on my desktop05:38
doogluslexx: and you can resume http transfers anyway.05:38
nightswimhttp can resume too innit05:38
david__is it possible to install java and netbeans in ubuntu in an automatic way?05:38
mrimbertNicolinux: that's not normal.  You're sure the cd burn was successful?  Did the install seem to go smoothly?05:38
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=== Dekkard just did the upgrade from install cd..no prollems....yet
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sector10whats the best way to do home networking for 2 boxes?05:39
inter_activeHi @ all05:39
TiMiDosector10: ??05:39
TiMiDohi inter_active05:39
sector10hi05:39
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Nicolinuxmrimbert: well burned the iso with a mac (mac os x) and took the n00b install mode. the old ubuntu worked well05:39
mrimbertsector10: it's your preference, really.  You can use a crossover cable, if you want.05:40
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codoubuntu breezy is no problems :) ?05:40
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ubuntukinghello all05:40
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loogahello all: I have japanese text/typing support enabled on my ubuntu. in the upgrade installation process, I'm getting many messages about this. Please take a look at the pertinent output at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3037. What shoudl i do?05:40
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erchachehi again05:40
mrimbertNicolinux: can you check the md5sum of the .iso?05:40
sector10TiMiDo: i meant through some of these new features in networking05:40
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TiMiDolooga: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales05:40
erchachewhen try to install via apt-get show me that05:40
sector10both my boxes are wireless05:40
sector10just want to share files05:40
Nicolinuxmrimbert: good idea again - i will check05:41
erchacheWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!05:41
erchachewhy?05:41
loogaTiMiDo: should i do it now, while installation is happening, or after?05:41
erchacheneed to get other key for source.list?05:41
wrabbitThis is what it says when I try to play a DVD in totem.... "Failed to play Audio/Video disc.  Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab"05:41
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eyequeueerchache:  man apt-key05:41
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loogaTiMiDo: will running that command fix things for all the packages that give me this warning?05:41
adwaitlooga: no05:41
adwaitlooga: tht will just tell you more about the problem05:41
inter_activecu all bye05:41
erchachepub  1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>05:41
erchachesub  2048g/79164387 2004-09-1205:41
erchachepub  1024D/FBB75451 2004-12-30 Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>05:41
erchachecorrect?05:42
loogaadwait: so when should i run that command? and how should i fix this problem?05:42
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adwaitlooga: its not really a problem....u just need to import the keys which have been used to sign the software05:42
erchacheeyequeue05:42
erchachepub  1024D/FBB75451 2004-12-30 Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>05:42
apokryphoserchache: don't paste in here05:42
sector10TiMiDo: how do i set up file sharing?05:42
erchachewhy...05:42
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erchachesecurity?05:42
adwaitlooga: you can just ignore the warning......no big deal reallly05:42
eyequeueerchache:  and what other repositories are you using?05:42
apokryphoserchache: no, because it floods the channel.05:42
erchachees.archive.ubuntu.com05:42
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pippijnhi all05:42
daanWhat's a good program for handling torrents?05:42
MFenwhere can i find information about the new thin client stuff?05:43
pippijnI have an open screen, now someone uses ssh from another box and wants to screen -x to me but it says Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp1' - please check. How can I fix that?05:43
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:apokryphos] : Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu Upgrading? read| Release Parties! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseParty | Don't paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
erchacheare updating for breezy and show that?05:43
loogaadwait: glad to hear it's not a problem. what do you mean that i just have to import the keys? How do i import the keys to ALL The programs that are giving this warning? you said I can ignore it? What're the repercussions for ignoring it?05:43
eyequeueerchache:  *.ubuntu.com should be covered by the first key05:43
ubudubuhi all, i am planning to migrate to breez.. any word of caution?05:43
loogaubudubu: backup05:43
sam_ubudubu: xchat and gaim stopped working for me05:43
ubudubu!ubuntu05:43
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ubotu[ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards05:43
ThomasMubudubu: There's a god upgrade guide on the wiki.  Ref: /topic05:43
erchacheand if not?05:43
loogaubudubu: backup just in case.05:43
erchachewhere is the problem....man-in-the-middle?05:43
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typodoes breezy support installing LVM over RAID1?05:43
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MFenbtw, where the hell are all the torrent downloaders? i'm only getting 100k/s.  i know some of you 702 people still need to download it. fire up bittorrent dagnabbit05:44
eyequeueerchache: always possible, but i don't suppose it's the problem in this case05:44
adwaitlooga: basically, the programs are signed by encryption keys so that you can be sure that the software is clean. Now, you need to import the keys (small text files) so that your computer can verify against the signature in the software05:44
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wrabbitmusic cds play fine05:44
Nicolinuxmrimbert: hm, md5sums differ :/  my file is also called "ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso" and the downloadable ones are called "ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso" - damn I took the bittorrent download05:44
typoI have two disks and I want to make RAID1 between the whole of the two disks and then partition them with LVM05:44
wrabbitanybody?05:44
erchachecan delete and apt automatically get other one new no?05:44
sector10in network settings the help box does not show what i got, i guess its a bug05:44
loogaadwait, so you mean it's got nothing to do with having my locale set to Japan or Japanese or something?05:44
doogluslooga: I think there's a bug with foreign language support which should be fixed soon.05:44
adwaitlooga: so if u ignore, ur computer can't verify but goes ahead with the install, shouldn't be a problem since you are using ubuntu repositories05:44
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adwaitlooga: NO05:44
sector10there is no new button05:44
jcohen85are the ubuntu servers overloaded. I'm trying to update my breezy system and package info isn't being downloaded05:44
pippijnanyone knows screen well?05:44
eyequeueNicolinux:  "rc" == release candidate, not the final version05:44
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dooglusIt was fixed before the breezy release, but for some reason the fix was rejected.  Read all about it here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537205:44
adwaitjc05:45
apokryphosjcohen85: they are, yes.05:45
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adwaitjcohen85: u betcha05:45
sector10jcohen85: yes its slow05:45
Ngwrabbit: are there any cdrom related lines in /etc/fstab?05:45
Nicolinuxeyequeue: hm, was the link from the ubuntu frontpage - I'll check again05:45
loogaadwait: you mean even people using only English language stuff on their computers have the warning , too?05:45
gypsymaurosorry there is available breezy DVD?05:45
apokryphosgypsymauro: correct05:45
apokryphosgypsymauro: it's a live+install+a few other packs05:45
wrabbitNg, no idea05:45
mrimbertNicolinux: you have the right image, but sounds like it's corrupted05:45
adwaitlooga: yes, probably if they haven't imported the appropriate keys05:45
jcohen85apokryphos, adwait, sector10 : well, that's what you get when you post a new release on slashdot :)05:45
Ngwrabbit: have a look :)05:45
gypsymauroapokryphos: where? I can find only the rc05:45
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dooglusis it just me, or does "cdrom" always look like "condom" when you're scanning text?05:45
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Ngdooglus: pretty sure that's just you ;)05:45
eyequeueNicolinux:  yes, it may have been during the synchronization period, and all may be finished by now05:45
loogaadwait: pardon my ignorance. what do you mean by "keys"? passwords?05:46
adwaitjasoncohen: hehehe05:46
apokryphosjcohen85: it was overloaded far before the /. entry actually, but it couldn't have helped =)05:46
Nicolinuxmrimbert: on one last check:05:46
wrabbitNg, Just a tic05:46
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dooglusNg: just checking :)05:46
axeusI wonder if there is an X-Chat tray plugin for Gnome.05:46
erchacheeyequeue: keys look good....but message appears....secure or not?05:46
BurgerMannDoes anyone know if there's a tool that can use the same remote desktop protocol as MSN?05:46
Nicolinuxhey folks - one small check - could someone post the md5sum of the ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso - thanks much05:46
loogaadwait: oh, i just re-read what you wrote.05:46
jasoncohenapokryphos, that's why one should update a day before or a few days after a new release rather than the same day05:46
adwaitlooga: no, not exactly passwords.......they contain information about HOW a file has been encrypted and hence how to decrypt it........basically they are sort of a digital signature05:46
KiraTime to go. Gonna reboot and install Breezy. :)05:46
loogaadwait: i think i krnow what you mean by "keys" now.05:46
KiraWish me luck. :)05:46
Nicolinuxmine is: 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d6105:46
adwaitlooga: :)05:47
wrabbitNg, I can't work out where the file browser for XFCE is05:47
codoKira, good luck05:47
wrabbit:|05:47
eyequeueerchache:  i'd listen to the message myself05:47
loogaadwait, dooglus, did you import your keys?05:47
Ngwrabbit: "grep cdrom /etc/fstab" in a terminal05:47
naliothwrabbit: xffm05:47
doogluslooga: sorry?05:47
loogaadwait, dooglus, I'd like to get things as smooth as i can?05:47
wrabbitk05:47
daanAnyone got a good program for managing torrent downloads?05:47
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eyequeueerchache:  let me double check here against my fingerprints, okay?05:47
axeusLol I love virtual desktops.05:47
Nicolinuxdaan: check azureus05:47
adwaitlooga: I normally just ignore the warning :p.......i just imported the jonathan ridell key, in order to install KDE beta05:47
apokryphosdaan: azureus/ktorrent05:47
Kiraerm... never mind that... Neor: "Data verificaton failed"05:47
Kirastupid CD-RW05:47
eracerbitdaan: azureus is a good java client05:47
sector10how do i add a connection to network settings?05:47
axeusI'll be messing around and see something on one of them and be like.. "hmm what's this", then I'll get over too it and It'll be a window I left open days/weeks ago.05:47
wrabbit/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:48
wrabbit <---this is what comes up05:48
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MFenwhat's an "early userspace infrastructure" and what does it have to do with initramfs-tools?05:48
BurgerMannI'll try again: Does anyone know if there's a tool that can use the same remote desktop protocol as MSN?05:48
apokryphosgypsymauro: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/05:48
eracerbitdaan: or if you're using kde, ktorrent seems to work fine also05:48
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apokryphosgypsymauro: please only download the torrent though05:48
jasoncohenNicolinux, http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/5.10/MD5SUMS05:48
jasoncohenNicolinux, 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61  ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso05:48
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KnelixWow... a lot of people in the channel today.05:48
apokryphosindeed05:49
loogaguys, i am facing a prompt in the installation. it's asking me if i want to keep current version of bash or use the newer version. WHat do you recommend? (Default  action is to keep my current action, but I always like getting the newest of things). Your advice please.05:49
wrabbitNg, sorry... didn't highlight.  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:49
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Nicolinuxjasoncohen: thanks - so my iso was not corrupted05:49
jentaluouou05:49
loogaadwait: so you need keys if you want to install some programs?05:49
apokryphoslooga: Y05:49
MFenBurgerMann: windows uses the protocol supported by rdesktop. i don't know if msn uses the same, though.05:49
Ngwrabbit: hmm, well that looks normal05:49
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gypsymauroapokryphos: tanx05:49
jentaluya05:49
gypsymauroapokryphos: I'll do that05:49
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loogaapokryphos: "Y" as in Yes? get the new version?05:49
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Ngwrabbit: what are you using to try and play the dvd? might be worth running it from a terminal, see what errors (if any) it spits out05:49
apokryphosyup05:49
wrabbitNg,  :( Well...dvd playback won't install05:49
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eyequeueerchache:  i suppose you could change es. to pt. or fr. mirrors?05:50
loogaapokryphos: just curious, why is the default to keep current version?05:50
wrabbitNg, Feel like walking me through the commands?05:50
erchachewhere i can see free bandwith of mirror ubuntu servers?05:50
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apokryphoslooga: don't know, tbh.05:50
erchachegoes tooooo sloooooooooow05:50
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codoapt-get update nothing is happening :(05:50
adwaitlooga: certain programs won't let u install unless u import the keys.....but kde beta was the first one i came across05:50
TiMiDoerchache: yeah everyone is doing the update from breezy that's why05:50
apokryphoscodo: what are you trying to do?05:50
eyequeuecodo:  mirrors are bogged down presently05:50
wrabbitNg, totem05:50
codooh okay05:50
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loogaadwait: in that case, i want to do what it takes to fix this "keys" problem.05:50
tristan622phi have the same problem too05:50
TiMiDoit took me 10 minutes to update to 4 packages erchache05:51
codoapokryphos, upgdading to breezy05:51
erchachehehehehe this is good....05:51
tristan622phi suggest that the update is torrent05:51
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apokryphoscodo: best to wait for a bit, I'd say. A lot of hype :)05:51
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codoapokryphos, hmm....05:51
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obontuif i'm using colony 5 and i kept updated it, is it the same as the one that was released today?05:52
naliothwrabbit: hold on a minute and i'll help ya with libdvdcss205:52
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Ngnalioth: ah, good call05:52
eyequeueoba:  sadly, no05:52
Ngwrabbit: install libdvdread3 and run: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:52
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wrabbitnalioth, cheers05:52
eyequeueobontu:  there's new changes05:52
obontureally?05:52
apokryphosobontu: not the same; changes have been done everyday until the real release05:52
obontuso what do ido?05:52
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obontuhow do i update?05:52
apokryphosobontu: wait for a couple/few days, then dist-upgrade again05:52
eyequeueobontu:  almost every half hour new changes happened, for those of us using apt-get we could see that05:52
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TiMiDoobontu: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:53
wrabbitNg, k.... just a tic05:53
obontuthanx05:53
ivanoxhey is some of the repos down or is it just me?05:53
bulldooozzerI need a tool in ubuntu that can help me ake an image of the current system and roll it out to several machines with the same hardware. Any suggestions?05:53
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eyequeueobontu:  what TiMiDo said, with a sudo apt-get update before it05:53
eyequeueivanox:  not "down" per se, just overburdened presently05:53
Gwildoridk how you guys handle this............05:53
naliothwrabbit: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please05:53
obontuso the command is05:53
obontu sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?05:53
ivanoxeyequeue, ah damn.. =(05:53
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eracerbitobontu: yes, after apt-get update05:54
TiMiDoobontu: sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade05:54
eyequeueobontu:  "udo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"05:54
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obontuthanx05:54
ivanoxanyone got unrar-nonfree as package?05:54
eyequeueobontu:  ssssudo of course :)05:54
TiMiDoivanox: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree (:05:54
naliothivanox: yes lots of us do05:54
ramblingturtle23Thanks to anyone who worked on breezy. I have been running it now for about a week and everything is working great. Ubuntu has helped to make my life win free. THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE! You Rule!05:55
obontuthanx05:55
obontusame here05:55
eyequeueobontu:  "update" means go get the current list of current packages, so you'll always want to run that first05:55
erchachewell today is not a good day to install ubuntu ;P.....update all mirrors slow lines05:55
wrabbitng... that's done05:55
eracerbitwhat turtle said.05:55
loogaguys, the upgrade instructions, specifically the "Post-Install" part has changed. Don't we need to sudo apt-get/update desktop or something?05:55
obontuok thanx05:55
ivanoxTiMiDo, the repos are overloaded.. It wont install =/05:55
MFeni'm serious people.. get on there and start downloading the torrent.. i'm not going to say this again! ;-)05:55
Ngwrabbit: ok, close totem if it's still open, start it again and try the DVD again05:55
ivanoxwont download* sorry05:56
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damo21:( i have the iso and no blank cd to burn it05:56
damo21lol05:56
eracerbittimido: wheres that05:56
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TiMiDoMiami Florida eracerbit05:56
eyequeuelooga:  you may be thinking of "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop (after the update and before the dist-upgrade) ... that makes certain you grab everything you need05:56
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loogaeyequeue: just to be safe, it 's good to do what you just typed, yes?05:57
eracerbittimido: thats where my gf wants to go, halloween horror nites05:57
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bobuseHi there !05:57
wrabbitNg, nope.. didn't work.05:57
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eracerbitwe r in n fl05:57
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TiMiDoyeah i've never been there so it's gonna be my first day05:57
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larsrohdinwhere can I find good repositories for Breezy?05:57
TiMiDohi bobuse05:57
wrabbitHang on... nalioth's giving me a hand aswell05:57
Ngwrabbit: same error as last time? about the mountpoint?05:57
TiMiDowhere eracerbit ?05:57
loogaeyequeue: i already did both update and dist-upgrade!05:57
hussamhow do I stop ntupdate from running at bootup ? it's useless since my ISP blocks NTP.05:57
btdownhalloween horror nights is da shiznit. Went there last year..very cool05:57
eracerbittimido:tally05:57
TiMiDooh tallahasee?05:57
eracerbityeah, for now =/05:57
eyequeuelooga:  yes, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:57
TiMiDoit's like 12 hours from tally to Miami05:57
TiMiDoon car05:58
btdownyou could do UNiversals halloween thing in orlando05:58
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eyequeuelooga:  do that install after if need be, should not be dangerous, and could even be completely a do-nothing step, just consider it extra safety05:58
eracerbitbtdown: ok that must be the thing im thinking of05:58
TiMiDomiami is the shitnez05:58
bobuseInstallation of eclipse-platform needs mozilla. It's a bug ?05:58
eracerbitgot it mixed up with the miami one05:58
btdownyeah it really is well done there...smoke/fog everywhere.05:58
xenomeliteforcehi all. Is it possible to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy with an install CD? The download is really slow here :-/05:59
TiMiDoxenomeliteforce: don't worry dude many people are updating that's why is so slow05:59
wrabbityup.. same error Ng05:59
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:apokryphos] : Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu Upgrading? read http://tinyurl.com/dkllj | Release Parties! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseParty | Downloading/upgrading might currently be slow because of the high traffic; if you can, do it later | Don't paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
TiMiDodo it another day the update xenomeliteforce05:59
loogaeyequeue: i did as you said, i got a long error message about unmet dependencies. PLease look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3039. Please advise.05:59
Ngwrabbit: damn. sorry, I'm stumped without a machine to compare on and it's time for me to go home anyway. sorry and good luck!05:59
adwaithussam: update-rc-d -f ntpdate remove05:59
eyequeuexenomeliteforce:  a few of the packages, yes ... a normal install includes many more packages than just those on the cd though05:59
wrabbitNg, thanks05:59
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xenomeliteforceTiMiDo: Yeah, I alreydy thought that. But can I update with a install CD?05:59
eyequeuelooga:  okay, give me a sec05:59
TiMiDonot sure05:59
bobuseAs far as I know, mozilla is not used by eclipse ...06:00
Gwildorxenomeliteforce, im sure you could, add the CD to your sources.lst, id reccomend commenting out the rest of the repo's, then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade06:00
naliothxenomeliteforce: yes you can06:00
xenomeliteforceeyequeue: Ok, but packages like ubuntu-base are in the CD?06:00
xenomeliteforceokanks @ all06:00
naliothxenomeliteforce: put your cd into your drive and type "apt-cdrom" and follow the prompts06:00
apokryphosall packages required for the upgrade are on the CD06:00
xenomeliteforceI'll try it!06:00
axeusHmm. I'm guessing the reason I can't find ZSNES is because they replaced it with snes9x ?06:00
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xenomeliteforcenalioth: thanks! I'll try that06:00
apokryphosbut a few of your packs from universe/multiverse will not be upgraded (since they're not on the CD)06:00
naliothGwildor: "apt-cdrom" is a command to add a cd to upgrade sources06:00
aukso, is it now safe to apt-get to breezy once i change the sources?06:01
ivanoxis there a command for apt-get so I can see which version of the package I am downloading?06:01
ivanoxa flag*06:01
MikeStylehey guys, i have a problem. whenever i use firefox its trying to use totem instead of mplayer, and totem doesnt work06:01
Gwildornalioth, :D....ty, ill try to remember......06:01
hussamadwait: what if I want to renable it once I change ISP next month?06:01
aukoh06:01
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eracerbitheheheh i found a good mirror06:02
eracerbitwhy is my kicker broke dammit!!!06:02
hussamadwait: because I'm switching to pppoe next month.06:02
eracerbit..06:02
eracerbit.06:02
naliothivanox: apt-cache show <PKGNAME>06:02
Gwildornalioth, twould still be a good idea to comment out the rest of the repo's.......so they dont grab stuff from theree......err, try too06:02
ivanoxthx nalioth06:02
Gwildornalioth, unless apt-cdrom ONLY uses CD-rom06:02
apokryphoshttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html06:02
eracerbitbobuse: eclipse doesuse mozilla for internal browser06:02
naliothGwildor: if he has no network or leaves his sources set at hoary, not a problem06:02
eyequeuelooga:  thanks for using pastebin, it is indeed a long list.  it's nothing to be scared of though, it all appears normal.  you'll be fetching all those libraries from the slow mirrors though, so may want to hold off on it for a couple of days.  apt-get -f install (as it mentioned) should cause it to proceed for you.  you *might* have to alternate between -f install and dist-upgrade a couple of times before it's over06:03
Gwildornalioth, :D06:03
adwaithussam: update-rc-d -f ntpdate add06:03
Kirayay!06:03
adwaithussam: that was just a guess though :)06:03
KiraBreezy burned!06:03
naliothGwildor: apt-cdrom saved me from a very nasty breezy install a few weeks ago06:03
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adwaithussam: lets cross the bridge when we come to it, shall we ;)06:03
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hussamadwait: Ok thanks, I'll try it now.06:03
loogaeyequeue: I'm not sure if i told you, but I already did "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". Does this bit of info change things?06:04
eyequeueKira:  congrats :) now to make copies for all your friends :)06:04
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hussamrbr06:04
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Kiraeyequeue: heh, I'll charge 1$ per copying. :P06:04
Nicolinuxbye06:04
loogaeyequeue: btw, i'm on a fast mirror. (i'm in asia using an asian server/mirror).06:04
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asparaguiare the servers still swamped?06:04
eracerbithey, anyone know if there are backports or extras for breezy yet??06:04
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bobuseeracerbit: Ho ! But the whole app is needed. a lib couldn't be enough ? because created two entry menu for mozilla if I want eclipse ... it's surprising ...06:04
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bobuseeracerbit: But it's minor ;-)06:05
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don-ocan i use grub to boot off a breezo .iso file w/o burning it to cdrom?06:05
adwaitm gonna go ppl.......bbye06:05
eyequeuelooga:  no, i could guess that you did :)  sudo apt-get -f install (like it advised) is next, then maybe another sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and *maybe* you'll need to alternate between the two commands (it will tell you if so, with a similar error message)06:05
bobuseeracerbit: Backport from where ?06:05
MikeStyledoes anyone know how to get firefox to use mplayer instead of totem06:05
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bobuseeracerbit: Breezy is the last version for the moment06:05
apokryphosMikeStyle: install mozilla-mplayer or whatever it is06:05
eracerbitbobuse: i dunno was thinking mirrormax or somewhere, whoever had the hoary backports06:05
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damo21is there any difference between doing "apt-get dist-upgrade" from breezy preview and installing clean off iso?06:06
eracerbityes was thinking more about 'extras' than backports06:06
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KnelixIs there any key combination to switch workspaces/virtual desktops when the menu bar is hidden?06:06
eyequeueMikeStyle:  sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayerplugin06:06
don-odamo21: i dont know but im installing off iso just to be safe.06:06
MikeStyleapokryphos, i have it installed already, but after i upgraded to 5.10 firefox just started using totem. mozilla browser uses mplayer but i need firefox to use it as well06:06
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apokryphosdamo21: not really; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should get you there06:06
loogaeyequeue: if "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is necessary, why was it removed from the wiki upgrade instructions. Also, why was it listed as "post-install" when you say that this command should be done between update and dist-upgrade)?06:06
mrimbertKnelix: Ctrl-Alt-Arrowkey06:06
MikeStylei have it installed already06:06
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eracerbitKnelix: crtl-alt-f#06:07
frank_banyone here can tell me where i can get an aMule 2.0.3 package for Ubuntu?=06:07
apokryphosdon-o: a stable -> stable dist-upgrade is fully supported by ubuntu06:07
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sam___My ubuntu has gone a bit crazy now that I upgraded to breezy...06:07
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mrimberteracerbit: that will take him to virtual consoles06:07
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bloodnikHow do I install WMV playback support?06:07
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eracerbito yeah06:07
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bloodnikI've got w32codecs.06:07
apokryphosfrank_b: from the repos06:07
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eracerbitno alt, just ctrl.. my bad06:07
eracerbitheheh06:07
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naliothbloodnik: you are afflicted with wmv3, which will not play no matter what you do06:07
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eyequeuelooga:  "necessary" or "advisable" are slightly different :)  those are called meta-packages, they just pull in standard aplications and dependencies.  some remove them in the course of normal operations, and during an upgrade it can be useful to put them back06:07
Knelixmrimbert: That's what I need. Thanks. Thanks for the try, eracerbit. :-)06:08
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frank_bapokryphos, it's a different version in the repository...06:08
mrimbertKnelix: :)06:08
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bloodnikdamn06:08
eracerbitheheh np06:08
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apokryphos!info amule06:08
ubotuamule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB06:08
bloodnikI guess I'll go upstairs just for this one video.06:08
loogaeyequeue: so it's better to run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop " than not to, correct?06:08
bloodnikthanks anyway :/06:08
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apokryphosfrank_b: 2.0.3 you want, no?06:08
eyequeuelooga:  i'm presuing you want a full ubuntu desktop system there, obviously you can run ubuntu just as a web server or something :)06:08
Kleggasanyone had any luck with accelerated dri drivers on breezy?06:08
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frank_bah!.... breezy has 2.0.3 now?06:08
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frank_bah!.... breezy has 2.0.3?06:09
apokryphosyes, hoary has older version06:09
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eyequeuelooga:  better for your needs, presuming you want a whole desktop, yes.  (those with just a server don't want that of course)06:09
loogaeyequeue: i'm using my ubuntu primarily as a desktop machine, not as a webserver.06:09
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eyequeuelooga:  a little clearer on what those meta-packages are for now?06:09
loogaeyequeue: no.06:09
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loogaeyequeue: i'm just doing what is advisable.06:09
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frank_bapokryphos, many thanks then. problem solved!:)06:09
frank_bapokryphos, thank you!06:10
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eyequeuelooga:  okay, think of them as hints for the package manager, saying "i want the normal desktop here please"06:10
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damo21my hardware doesnt do justice to breezy now06:10
apokryphosfrank_b: np :)06:10
loogaeyequeue: gotcha. if that's the case, how come this command was deleted from the upgrade instructions?06:10
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eyequeuelooga:  frankly, some people want less than a normal desktop, some just want a webserver, as one example06:10
eracerbitlooga: the package may be contained in another metapackage they reccomend.06:11
apokryphosson_2: please stop that06:11
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apokryphos(and turn it off)06:11
axeusWhat is the "multiverse" ?06:11
apokryphos!components06:11
ubotusomebody said components was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view06:11
loogaeracerbit: huh? I'm a newbie. what do you mean? You may use analogies if you like.06:11
apokryphosaxeus: check that06:11
axeusI take it you have to manually add it to /etc/apt/sources.list06:11
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GreatBritoncould anyone help a newbie setting up his wifi card in breezy?06:11
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GreatBritonplease06:11
axeusWell I can't find the snes9x-common package, so I'm assuming I don't have it installed.06:11
eyequeueaxeus:  unofficial packages, less "free" and with less "free" dependencies, than those in universe06:11
Aquatopiahas it been successful for people to update directly from hoary to breezy? :)06:11
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axeus!info multiverse06:12
Lickerok i keep gertting this error.. anyone have any idea?   E: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 106:12
LickerE: php4-sqlite: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 106:12
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naliothaxeus: everywhere you see "universe", space one space and add "multiverse"06:12
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apokryphosaxeus: it doesn't work like that; multiverse is a repository. As I said, check that link for the infos.06:12
aukaer the servers swamped with everyoen upgrading at once, or something?06:12
loogaeyequeue: what differences would there be had a person not run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop ?06:12
apokryphosauk: /topic06:12
eyequeueAquatopia:  that's the usual upgrade path, yes :)06:12
GreatBritonplease?06:12
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axeusnaolith: Remove the "universe" ... though ?06:12
Aquatopiaeyequeue, oh goodie! :D *changing sources.list* :D06:12
ThomasMlooga: Possibly none.  It depended on what you had installed.06:13
apokryphosaxeus: nope06:13
mustard5looga, probably no desktop when they upgrade06:13
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aukapokryphos: thanks, i dont' seem to be very good at looking at the topic today :)06:13
eyequeuelooga:  they would just upgrade what little they had on their system, possibly missing some of the "normal" desktop apps06:13
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hussamsudo: update-rc-d: command not found what do I install to get this command?06:13
athlonErrors were encountered while processing:06:13
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ThomasMlooga: ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop are metapackages.  They just list all of the packages that make up the base system.  You might have already had those installed, for other reasons, but installing those two metapackages ensures everything's there.06:13
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Aquatopiawhat about backports I've installed? Should I remove those sources or? :)06:13
loogaeyequeue, ThomasM, mustard5:  so can i conclude that many ubuntu users don't use GUI, or at least use ubuntu as a webserver?06:13
apokryphosathlon: read the /topic ; please do not paste in here :)06:13
ThomasMhussam: 'update-rc.d' notice the fullstop06:13
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mustard5looga, I use gnome06:14
eyequeuelooga:  "many" yes, but "most" is probably a no.  "most" probably do use ubuntu for a desktop machine06:14
GreatBritoncard chipset: rt250006:14
ThomasMlooga: Some. I don't use an X server at all, but I prefer closet boxes (that can be ssh'd into and left running things while my attention's away).06:14
Miksui have a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 preview. So to upgrade to final, is it okay to just add the repositories and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?06:14
codoMiksu, read the topic carefully :)06:14
hussamThomasM: ok06:15
loogaThomasM, :i just don't understand why they removed that command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop " from the instructions.06:15
eyequeueMiksu:  don't forget "sudo apt-get update" after you edit sources.list06:15
apokryphoslooga: which instructions and where?06:15
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eracerbitlooga: there could be a package called gnome, with all of gnome including games, one called gnome-games, with just the games, and one called like solitaire.. each may include sub-packages also included inother metapackages... make sense06:15
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ThomasMlooga: They pulled it out?  I was thinking you were asking why it was there.06:15
apokryphoslooga: no point in doing that command if you have those before the upgrade06:15
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loogaThomasM: yes, they deleted in in the past hour or so.06:15
eyequeueapokryphos:  he apparently didn't, from the pastebin he posted earlier :/06:16
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ThomasMlooga: Most probably those it was useless.  And be careful of the term "they" when speaking of wikis.  Could be one rogue user that was mad because he doesn't run an X server.  :)06:16
ThomasMlooga: It looks to me like they just moved the step to the beginning, which makes sense.06:16
athlondist-upgrade failed because when executing the script it cant find "dzhandle". But googling told me dzhandle is used primarily in Zope. What gives ?06:16
athlon - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3041 -06:17
loogaapokryphos. The instructions in the "Upgrade to breezy" wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes). The instruction which was removed was "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop "06:17
hussamThomasM: thanks. that worked. but what if I want renable it later if I get a conenction that supprots ntp?06:17
irvini already removed linux-386 from synaptic since i use -686, but linux-image*-386 is still being downloaded whenever i upgrade...06:17
ThomasMhussam: You still use update-rc.d.  Since it's a long-term goal, I'll just refer you to 'man update-rc.d'.06:17
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apokryphoslooga: it's right there, under "Pre-Upgrade"06:17
cyphaseI'm back online!! Woohooo!!!!!06:17
loogaThomasM: but when I went to that webpage, that instruction was at the bottom of the page (Post-install). What shoud i do now?06:17
loogaapokryphos: i see it now.06:18
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loogaapokryphos but when I went to that webpage, that instruction was at the bottom of the page (Post-install). What shoud i do now?06:18
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cyphase:)06:18
apokryphoslooga: the action is certainly not a post-upgrade (kind of defeats the point -- check the reason).06:18
eyequeuelooga:  see #2 under post-upgrade, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade (no Notes)06:18
apokryphoslooga: if you had ubuntu-desktop before, then you should be ok06:18
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ThomasMlooga: It was at the bottom yesterday, that I saw as well.  They probably just refined the instructions and decided it was only needed at the beginning.  If you had those installed and did a 'dist-upgrade', there'd be no point to doing it again when you're finished.06:18
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ThomasMlooga: The packages and their dependencies would already be installed, and it'd make for a cleaner dist-upgrade.06:19
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eyequeuesomeone has put a confusing alternate page up, with one with Notes at the end06:19
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apokryphoslooga: weird; that's wrong.06:19
zerDoes anyone know if there are Firefox 1.5 debs for Ubuntu?06:19
eracerbitzer: not yet i think06:19
eyequeuezer:  not presently, but expect them in dapper06:20
ThomasMeyequeue: That comment was there, on the wiki, clicked from the topic in this channel, yesterday.  She's right about it having been there--no confusing alternate source.06:20
apokryphoslooga: if you can, please take the time to fix that :)06:20
loogaThomasM: Heres' what I did in order:sudo apt-get update, then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" what shoudl i do now?06:20
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ThomasMlooga: Play.06:20
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loogaThomasM: play?06:20
loogaThomasM: please. i'm sleepily serious.06:20
eracerbitheheh06:20
eyequeueThomasM:  i don't see the need for BreezyUpgrade *and* BreezyUpgradeNotes, that's what i was calling confusing06:20
ThomasMlooga: You've got Breezy installed, yes?  Go play around!06:20
zereyequeue: sorry, my english is bad, what does "dapper" mean? o.O06:20
apokryphoslooga: I've already told you :)06:20
ThomasMeyequeue: Ah06:20
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occyw00p06:21
eracerbitlooga:i think the answer you were looking for is 'wait;06:21
loogaapokryphos: fix what? the wiki?06:21
Centaur5Is the kernel in the final release of Breezy compiled with gcc 4.0?06:21
anthonyDoes anybody know the URL for the multiverse repository for Breezy?06:21
occyhmm06:21
apokryphoslooga: yes06:21
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eyequeuezer:  "dapper drake" is the codename of what will be ubuntu 6.04, in six omnths.  work will begin on it soon06:21
apokryphoszer: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=dapper06:21
occyapokryphos, I guess those main mirrors on the upgrade page are just slamm0r3d huh?06:21
Aquatopiaare there any mirrors for security.ubuntu.com?06:21
eracerbithahah, yeah, fix the wiki looga.. itll be like a rite of passage06:21
occy:)06:21
zereyequeue: Ah thank you very much for this info :)06:21
apokryphosoccy: yup; /topic06:21
loogaeracerbit: i'm still too young for that.06:21
eyequeueanthony:  add " multiverse" to the current "deb" lines you use in sources.list06:21
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eracerbitahh, thats why u ask so many questions06:22
doogluslooga: there's an age limit on wiki-ing?06:22
eyequeuezer:  no problem :)06:22
loogatime to restart.06:22
occyeverything is up-to-date cause I got it from the ISO06:22
eracerbitas you get older you'll respond to these things more like "d,ok"06:22
loogadooglus: young in terms of linux06:22
barnes_I am having trouble getting my wireless card to work in Ubuntu.06:22
occyjust trying to get my beep-media-player installed :)06:22
occyhehe06:22
doogluslooga: oh, i see.06:22
occyanyhoo06:22
occylunch06:22
occybbl06:22
anthonyeyequeue: All the "deb" lines right? Not the "deb-src" lines?06:22
barnes_I am having trouble getting my wireless card to work in Ubuntu.06:22
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barnes_If anyone can help me.06:23
eyequeueanthony:  you can add it there too if you like, that's for building things from source06:23
thirsoCan anyone help me to get my ethernet card to work? Can't install the driver06:23
ThomasMeyequeue: You're right about the BreezyUpgrade vs. BreezyUpgradeNotes.  Wouldn't it be better to have the /topic in here link to BreezyUpgrade?06:23
naliothanthony: deb-src lines won't hurt anything06:23
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eracerbithmm, looga was from japan06:23
eyequeueanthony:  see what the bot has to say...06:23
CabraHow to I resume a broken connection when upgrading?06:23
eyequeueubotu:  tell anthony about repositories06:23
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naliothCabra: it will pick up where it left off06:23
barnes_Does Ubuntu have wireless card modules?06:23
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apokryphosThomasM: no, because it's wrong; I'll fix it in a bit as soon as I have time. If you can, please do :)06:24
eracerbitCabra, try apt-get -f update06:24
Cabranalioth: eracerbit: will do, thanks06:24
eyequeueThomasM:  it did at one point, now it hides behind a tinyurl (which i never go to, on policy) so i'm not sure what it points to06:24
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eyequeuetinyurl is evilness, imo :)  never surf with your eyes closed :)06:24
ThomasMeyequeue: It can be used for that, yes, but it's handy when it's needed.06:25
apokryphoseyequeue: and you don't trust what we put into the /topic, then?06:25
eyequeueThomasM:  i just consider it insecure, "trust me" is not something i recommend as safe computing :) (or court nominations, or or or, heh)06:26
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apokryphosthat's a really bad/problematic Philosophy, but better to discuss it in -offtopic if you like06:26
anthonyeyequeue: Thanks.06:26
eyequeueapokryphos:  basically, you are correct in that i do not (nothing personal please)  it's a policy that everything should be open for inspeaction, or untrusted, it's what i teach, so i feel i have to be willing to live it as well06:27
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apokryphoseyequeue: ok; join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue the discussion :)06:27
eyequeueapokryphos:  again, please don't see it as personal, i'm sure the ops in here i know are GoodGuys :)06:28
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apokryphosno offense taken, of course06:28
eyequeue:)06:28
jazzcrazedhi all06:28
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eyequeueand all was well with the world, well, minus the bandwidth of the mirrors, heehee06:29
eracerbitcabra, ignore what i said, it was gibberish06:29
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thomerzhi, i have problems with installing breezy on my hp nx8220, it says it cannot start the xserver06:30
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defendguindoes 5.10 have gnome power management?06:30
naliothubotu: tell thomerz about fixres06:30
defendguingnome-power.sf.net06:30
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petterahhi all, is it possible to connect my axim 51v to ubuntu linux and sync against evolution or something? have anyone tried?06:31
thomerznalioth, thx06:31
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Miksuthere some unauthenticated packages in synaptic..what's up?06:31
eyequeuedefendguin:  Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe gnome-power-manager 0.1.2-2ubuntu206:32
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dleHi.  Does anyone know an alternate place to d/l the breezy torrent?06:32
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eyequeuedefendguin:  one of those packages that won't upgrade here since the mirrors are so loaded down, but the old version is still on the box06:32
NoUsedle alternate to which site?06:33
NoWhereManhi all. I was considering pass from my madnriva 2005le to (k)ubuntu. can anybody tell me if I can just overwrite the one with the oher?06:33
FliesLikeALapwhen i run apt-get update, i get connection timeouts to us.archive.ubuntu.com06:33
FliesLikeALapany idea why?06:33
defendguineyequeue, if its in universe its not part of the official install?06:33
eyequeuedle:  the /download page should have a list of mirrors.  all of them should have the tottents06:33
naliothFliesLikeALap: there's a million people ugrading right now?06:33
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eyequeuedefendguin:  correct06:33
mbirkisFliesLikeALap: not sure... could be heavy traffic06:33
FliesLikeALapk thanks06:33
FliesLikeALapi was thinking that06:33
defendguineyequeue, will universe will be good enough06:33
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defendguins/will/well06:34
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eyequeuedefendguin:  yes, universe works well for me (other than today) and i'd guess for most of us in here too06:34
defendguineyequeue, thanks06:34
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NoWhereMancan a mandriva be overwritten with an ubuntu ?06:35
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Nova-A001If you mean replace, yes06:35
apokryphosNoWhereMan: yes; ubuntu can format and install on the respective partition06:35
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  can a hard drive be overwritten with an ubuntu? :)  yes06:35
piotrubuntu breezy servers are overloaded06:35
NoWhereMando i have to format before, then?06:36
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  the install disk can do that for you06:36
lee__piotr, thats what i came here to ask hehe06:36
eracerbitNoWhereMan: nope, the ubuntu cd has formatting tool on it06:36
dleeyequeue: but the webserver seems to be tied-up -- can't connect to it.06:36
NoWhereMancan I do the whole using the live cd?06:36
eyequeuepiotr, lee: yes, loads are high, wait a couple of days if you like06:36
eracerbitNoWhereMan: i'd use the install cd06:36
piotri don't like06:36
eracerbitnot the live06:37
warpforgeare there other repository mirrors?06:37
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lee__its going, but its damn slow! i guess everyone must be getting breezy06:37
dlenm, managed to connect to se.06:37
piotri want useful breezy now LOL06:37
eyequeuedle:  all of the mirrors are busy?  try a few, the torrent file is small06:37
apokryphos!mirror06:37
uboturumour has it, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive06:37
Lickercan someone help me/06:37
eracerbitubotu: SHHHH!06:37
ubotueracerbit: Wish i knew06:37
eracerbitheheh06:38
dletry se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/  -- I'm in.06:38
doogluswould it have been a good idea to get the previous nightly, and then use bittorrent to update it?06:38
bretzellee_: I am even not able to download anything with synaptic: Installed brand new ATI TV POWER PRO and need MYTH_TV  stuff : no luck --06:38
LickerE: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 106:38
LickerE: php4-sqlite: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  <--anyone know what this means?06:38
dooglusi mean, would that be quicker, 'cos bittorrent would only have to get the changes?  or doesn't it work like that.06:38
NoWhereManok, thanx guys :)06:38
Nova-A001nope, bittorrent is a download tool06:39
dooglusLicker: it means that the script which runs after installing the package exited with an exit status of 1, which is an error status.  non-error is 0.06:39
naliothdooglus: either install the previous nightly and upgrade it, or do it the way you mentioned. either way, it's gonna be slow goin today06:39
Nova-A001It downloads the iso by p2p06:39
Lickeryea but what does this mean? how would i fix it?06:39
dooglusnalioth: I think bittorrent is very quick at 'fixing' downloads if they aren't much different from what you've got06:39
dooglusnalioth: it just downloads the bits that are 'wrong'06:39
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lee__i think im gonna leave it for tommorow or something, thanks for the answers guys06:39
bretzelarchive.ubuntu.com is overloaded! I need software but I cannot download anything -- just not able to start connection ---06:40
naliothdooglus: but you have to get the previous daily, first (and today the ubuntuverse servers are hammered)06:40
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bretzelIn fact this is funny and good news -- Ubuntu is getting greatly popular! :-)06:40
dooglusnalioth: yes, but yesterday they weren't hammered...  if I had thought it through, I could have got yesterday's daily yesterday and saved the long slow download today.06:40
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MPCany particular reason that the Ubuntu servers are overloaded, today? ... new release or some such?06:41
dooglusMPC: yes.  breezy is out today.06:41
Strikeapokryphos: This is IRC, people don't care to help themselves.06:41
apokryphosMPC: topic06:41
bretzelMPC: doh!06:41
eyequeuebretzel:  notmally, id suggest you use ca.archive.ubuntu.com, but that's loaded down too, but do try another mirror (Or wait a day or three)06:41
naliothdooglus: the torrents are moving very quickly06:41
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eracerbitubotu, what did i ask, i forgot06:41
ubotueracerbit: Are you smoking crack?06:41
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Lickerdooglus: whats that mean though is it fixable?06:41
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dooglusnalioth: not from where I'm sitting they're not: speed:     15.8 KB/s down -   3.0 KB/s up06:41
budluvalol wow apt repo's are amazingly sloooooowwww :P guess thats what i get for updating on release day :P06:42
oris_wolfbanethis machince is running breezy.. can i let another machine on my network use it as a package repostiary06:42
apokryphosdooglus: how long have you been waiting? Sometimes it takes time to warm up06:42
dooglusapokryphos: an hour or so06:42
eracerbitubotu: nope fresh out.. seriously tho i dont remember asking anything06:42
ubotueracerbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:42
apokryphosouch06:42
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apokryphosdooglus: i386 cd?06:42
dooglusapokryphos: but I can't open any ports on the router - so I'm relying on people who can.06:42
dooglusapokryphos: yes.06:42
eyequeueoris_wolfbane:  "apt-move" is one package that is designed for that, there are a few others as well which i can't recall06:42
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bretzeleyequeu: Agree no choice but to wait .... I want my TV Wonder pro working ... btw:just did "sudo modprobe bttv" and all needed modules just loaded!!!! aaahhH! Good friend Ubuntu!06:42
apokryphosdooglus: the ports is probably the problem I'd say, then06:42
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eracerbitubotu, is what larger than a breadbox? you lost me man06:43
ubotueracerbit: Are you smoking crack?06:43
eracerbitohhh its a bot06:43
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dooglusheh06:43
frank_bsorry to bother you... but how does one " Change your repositories to look for Breezy " ... where is that option in Synaptic?06:43
naliothubotu: tell frank_b about repos06:43
eyequeueoris_wolfbane:  alternatively i guess you could nfs-mount /var/cache/apt/archives from the "full" box06:43
apokryphosfrank_b: /topic06:44
oris_wolfbaneeyequeue, thanks06:44
eracerbitubotu: die06:44
ubotueracerbit: Wish i knew06:44
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eyequeuefrank_b:  see https.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:44
MPCdo the updates from pre-release "breezy" bring one up to the released version? ... or is it necessary to fetch the final released "breezy" version?06:44
eyequeueoris_wolfbane:  no prob, i hope it helps (any little help with the server load today is good, thanks for trying)06:45
naliothMPC: apt-get will update your machine painlessly06:45
frank_beyequeue, yes, that's what I'm seeing... I know how tyo edit the etc/apt/souces.list file... but I don't know how to " Change your repositories to look for Breezy "...06:45
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bretzelMPC: It will get to the latest-current pkg anyway just do it :-)06:45
daananyone know where i can find guides or so to install azureus06:45
eyequeueMPC:  your usual "update/upgrade" sequence will suffice, no need for d/l the iso if you don't need it as a cd to use for friends :)06:46
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war-totemcan anyone tell me what this means: Unpacking replacement openoffice.org-debian-files ...06:46
war-totemErrors were encountered while processing:06:46
war-totem /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb06:46
war-totemE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:46
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apokryphosdaan: get it from their site; it works fine.06:46
wezzerwar-totem: I had same problem06:46
eyequeuefrank_b:  change all occurances of "hoary" to "breezy" in that file06:46
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apokryphoswar-totem: read the topic; please do not paste in here :)06:46
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war-totemapokryphos, oops sorry06:46
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wezzerwar-totem: it wasn't easy to solve it. I had to try command "sudo apt-get install -f"06:47
MPCI'm getting leery of updates.  the updates hosed my dual boot listing (which I fixed, manually) and lost my LCD 1200x800 resolution for my notebook06:47
war-totemwezzer, what does it mean though?06:47
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wezzerwar-totem: and then the package, which causes this, had to be removed06:47
TPCif I ordered hoary cd:s in shipit it will remember it and ship breezy cd:s too, right?06:47
wezzerwar-totem: I don't know...06:47
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eyequeuewar-totem, wezzer: don't flood.  what it means is that up above there is a more significant error message (re-run the command and look) that tells you *why* that pacakge woudn't install.  some conflict, some overwrite issue, lack of drive space, something06:47
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war-totemwezzer, have you been able to upgrade successfully06:47
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carstenmoin06:48
Lickeri try to unistall something and it says:    E: mysql-server-4.1: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 606:48
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eracerbitrtfem06:48
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carstenIs anyone able to install valgrind-callgrind on breezy? I am not...06:48
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war-totemeyequeue, ok thanks06:48
jxpxwhat programa can i download to download .torrent ?06:48
eyequeue"E: " errors are typically a "Summary" line, telling you there is an error message with more informative content up above somewhere06:48
apokryphosjxpx: azureus, ktorrent06:49
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frank_beyequeue, ok...06:49
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jxpxapokryphos ok thanks06:49
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rc55Wow - totally impressed with the new startup and installer. :D06:49
zapataanyone knows how to install ati drivers for radeon 9200 card?06:49
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apokryphos!ati06:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx06:50
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zapataive tried all faqs, but when ive installed it i only get a black screen, what am i doing wrong?06:50
eracerbitthose aqti things work? never had any luck with dri myself06:50
eracerbit*ati06:50
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TrackilizerCan someone please send me a good sources.list file for Breezy, the official one is rather shitty and i don't know where to find them on the web.06:51
mustard5zapata, bit hard to tell what you are doing wrong without seeing you do it06:51
frank_beyequeue, got it... the web page didn't explain very well... it was descibing the same operation but in synaptic... I just had never used synaptic, so I couldn't the find the option they talked about...06:51
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apokryphosaha, dinner 8)06:51
frank_beyequeue, problem solved06:51
zukerohi06:51
zapataill pay the ticket for you to get here06:51
naliothubotu: tell Trackilizer about sources06:51
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zukeroanyone can help me use (http(s)) proxy with cvs under breezy ?06:51
eyequeuefrank_b:  gotcha (btw, use apt-get if that's more comfortable for you, many ways to accomplish the same goal in ubuntu, heh)06:52
zapataman this sucks then, any other distro working better with ati?06:52
TrackilizerI saw that one already, but it doesn't seem to have "XFCE" or any of the oter stuff i want, but I'll try it again.06:52
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frank_beyequeue, yes, I will. thank for the tip. :)06:52
crimsunTrackilizer: xubuntu-desktop is in universe06:52
shastrywhats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ? can the repos be mixed with one another ?06:52
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crimsunshastry: same repos06:52
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shastrycrimsun: oh06:53
Avenhi, how do I delete a folder using sudo ?06:53
Skidkubuntu just had a KDE DE06:53
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shastrythen whats the difference ?06:53
mustard5shastry ubuntu runs gnome, kubuntu runs KDE06:53
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shastryooh06:53
mbirkisshastry: ubuntu ships with gnome, and kubuntu shups with KDE06:53
eracerbit!kubuntu06:53
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/06:53
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eyequeueshastry:  repos are the same, yes.  ubuntu==gnome, kubuntu==kde, xubuntu==xfce06:53
shastryso if i apt-get kde , will i endup with the same stuff as in kubuntu ??06:53
zeus1_GUYS Im going to install Breezy 5.10 over Hoary install on the slave drive..is there ANY LAST THING I should know?? I backed up my school projects stuff just in case06:53
reiki_workI'm at work so I can't check this out from here, but can anyone tell me *about* how long it takes to upgrade Hoary to Breezy if the Hoary install was fully up to date as of yesterday? I have a cable internet conection. I know this is variable. Just trying to get a feel for how big of an upgrade it's gonna be.06:53
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Avenhi, how do I delete a folder using sudo ?06:53
eazel7hi ppl06:53
frank_bbye all06:53
spiderwormum how big is the breezy i386 install iso supposed to be?06:53
eazel7I need to have write support for ntfs06:53
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Skidreiki_work: I'm sitting on 10Mb here, and only downloading at 60Kb/s06:54
mbirkisAven: sudo rm -Rf foldername06:54
Gwildorreiki_work, right now.....would take a while...servers are bogged06:54
eazel7where can I find a guide for this in ubuntu?06:54
shastryAven: sudo rm -r /path/to/folder06:54
mustard5zeus1_,  backing up is the only advice I can give, other than following the instructions06:54
naliotheazel7: then use windows06:54
larsrohdinspiderworm, I think around 617 mb06:54
Skidreiki_work: and it's estimated at 3hrs.. so guess the mirrors are a bit busy ;)06:54
groverreiki_work: 600MB for me06:54
eyequeuezeus1_:  one thing to know, the mirrors are bogged down, expect delays (or wait a couple days)  see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:54
fr33mindHow to report a problem?06:54
spiderwormlarsrohdin: ok good, ty06:54
Avenah, thanks06:54
fbnare the ubuntu servers a bit overloaded atm? apt update takes a long time ...06:54
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eazel7nalioth, I have windows06:54
Gwildorfbn, yes06:54
zeus1_eyequeue - I burned it to a cd already and its ready to go06:54
groverhehe 2 days ago servers were very fast06:54
reiki_workthanks... I can hold off till tomorrow morning then.06:54
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spiderwormdoesnt help that it got slashdotted at 6 am this morning06:54
eyequeuefbn:  breezy released, everything is at a crawl for a bit06:54
eazel7nalioth, but it's not the problem, I need to have ntfs write support06:54
naliotheazel7: write support is almost nonexistent in linux06:54
spiderwormarizona time anyways06:54
zeus1_Ok im going to overwrite Hoary wish me luck guys06:55
fbnare there mirrors available?06:55
larsrohdinare there any good repositories out there? Mine doesn't even have mplayer etc....06:55
spiderwormluck06:55
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Skidi should of applied to mirror, at least it'd of been via a lan then heh06:55
fr33mindI have a dialog box explaining what to send to report a bug... but I don't know how to report a bug?06:55
eyequeueubotu:  tell larsrohdin about repos06:55
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zukeroI'm trying to install E17 on breezy, and i can't find any .deb file for it, nor retrieve cvs because of proxies06:55
eazel7nalioth, I used to have this in gentoo and worked really fine, I need to compile a custom kernel, but I don't know how to make a initial ramdisk06:55
larsrohdineyequeue, thanks06:55
titaniumoneis security.ubuntu.com down? trying to install php4-dev package and it's stalling at connecting06:55
rodietzeHi, I'm downloading Ubuntu 5.10 and I allready have Ubuntu 5.04... and Kubuntu 5.04, now for use ubuntu 5.10 plus KDE stuff, do I need to download Kubuntu 5.10 too? or can I use 5.04?06:56
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pittititaniumone: it's just the slashdot DDoS that slows down the archive06:56
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TrackilizerIS there anything like ubuntuguide.org for breezy?06:56
MDM232343hi all, are the breezy and 5.10 the same and latest in releases.ubuntu.com/ ?06:56
Skidyup06:56
fbnMDM232343, yes06:56
pittiMDM232343: yes06:56
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mustard5Trackilizer, yes06:56
naliotheazel7: ntfs write support is very unsupported in ubuntu. you may break your box, but google for "captive ntfs"06:56
MDM232343ok thanks :)06:56
TrackilizerWhere?06:56
TrackilizerOr can i just use the same one?06:56
Skidubotu: tell Trackilizer about ubuntuguide06:56
mustard5in the help menu of Breezy and online somewhere06:56
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eyequeuerodietze:  install ubuntu, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:57
Trackilizer!faq06:57
ubotufrom memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/06:57
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MDM232343so on the mirrors it says last modified 13th October so these are all in sync?06:57
TrackilizerI really need to find a new "sources.list" file.06:57
eyequeuerodietze:  then follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:57
TrackilizerAll the ones i found seem to be rather shitty.06:58
eazel7if I do mkinitrd -o initrd 2.6.12, where do I find the initrd?06:58
eyequeuerodietze:  if you can wait a few days until the mirrors calm down06:58
mustard5ubotu sent you the info on sources Trackilizer06:58
neeraviHello, could someone tell me how to play rmvb movies in ubuntu ?06:58
ubotumustard5: Are you smoking crack?06:58
mustard5the sources.lists are in the pastebin06:58
naliothTrackilizer: do you get private messages at all?06:58
TrackilizerYes!06:58
TrackilizerI'll check that out.06:58
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TrackilizerThanks a ton.06:58
TrackilizerSee ya.06:58
rodietzeeyeqeyequeue heh ok06:59
rodietzeoops06:59
rodietzeeyequeue06:59
mustard5neeravi, rmvb?06:59
eyequeueheh06:59
rodietzethanks guys06:59
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mustard5neeravi, what about converting them to mpg or avi?07:00
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fbnare there mirrors for sources.list available? especially for security updates? (http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu)07:00
elvirolohi all07:00
elvirolo if i want to log in with user icecast2, I do "su - icecast2" right ?07:00
jeff303anyone run into problems with the video player locking up when trying to play a DVD?07:00
sdepooteI have a problem with the nvidia-driver in Breezy.. anyone here who can help me?07:00
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mustard5sdepoote, possibly ask away07:00
NoUse!anyone07:00
ubotuI heard anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>07:01
naliothelvirolo: use sudo07:01
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dougskowhats up guys07:01
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Seveaselvirolo, no07:01
jrattner1where are the i386 DVD install isos07:01
Seveasyou do sudo su icecast -07:01
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elviroloSeveas: ah07:02
mustard5whats the native linux video format?07:02
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mahangumustard5, i doubt there i sone07:02
Seveasmustard5, there is no such thing as a 'native video format'07:02
eyequeuemirror problem :(  this is empty! http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-dvd/   where are the breezy dvds kept now?07:02
mahangushould an OS have a NATIVE format?07:02
war-totemanyone else timing out when trying to reach security.ubuntu?07:02
jrattner1where are the i386 DVD install isos07:02
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mustard5ok..'popular' video format?07:02
eyequeuejrattner1:  heh07:02
mahanguSeveas, after i d/l breezy07:02
mahanguwill it boot in to the new kernel for me?07:02
pittiYES, THE MIRRORS ARE SLOW07:02
Seveasmahangu, only if you install it ;)07:03
eyequeuejrattner1:  the above url is where the web page says to find them, but it's empty :(07:03
neeravimustard5 ==> yes rmvb. real player movie07:03
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Seveaspitti, WE KNOW :)07:03
mustard5neeravi, ah ok07:03
pittiSeveas: then why people keep asking?07:03
shinuif i burn 4gb directly from my hd to cd, i dont need another 4gb for any temp files right?07:03
neeravimustard5===> tried isntalling real player from site07:03
mahanguSeveas, i mean synaptic07:03
eracerbitthe sky07:03
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Major_Stitchsorry to bother but can somebody tell me does Ubuntu support Ericsson hmd220 adsl modem?07:03
neeravimust5===> rp won;t start07:03
Seveaspitti, because some people don't think :)07:03
sdepooteI tried to install nvidia with the binaries in breezy, tried it with the installer from nvidia.com.. but it didn't work.. everytime i try to start x it hangs... black screen, no reaction... any ideas?07:03
mustard5neeravi, have you tried installing realplayer according to the wiki guide?07:03
jrattner1eyequeue, in that case is there only one installl cd for i386?07:04
eyequeuesomeone know an actual source for breezy dvd images?07:04
pittiSeveas: maybe you can add it to the topic?07:04
neeravimustart==>yes done. icon gets displayed. however which i click it nothing happens07:04
Seveaspitti, hehe07:04
Seveasyou just made my point :)07:04
eyequeuejrattner1:  there are cd images available from all the rest of the mirrors, i just can't localte the dvd images07:04
Seveaslook at the topic07:04
neeravimust5==> launched from cmd line. process starts , but hangs07:04
mustard5neeravi, hmmm...well I havent' bothered trying to install realplayer yet, so I'm at a loss07:04
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neeravimust5===> ok fine07:05
SeveasI'll put it up front07:05
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Downloading/upgrading currently is slow because of the high traffic | Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is out: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu | Upgrading? read http://tinyurl.com/dkllj
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Major_Stitchsorry to bother but can somebody tell me does Ubuntu support Ericsson hmd220 adsl modem?07:05
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shinuim gonna upgrade later then x)07:05
ompaulSeveas, fast mirror, http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/5.10/07:05
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dougskohey guys, anyone here install gcc? it's complaining about not having any .h files when i go to compile, whats the deal with that?07:06
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thirsocan anyone help me out with this http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png ?07:06
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ubuntuhey07:06
Major_Stitch...because I have an USB modem and (when I bought it i didn't know) and now would like to know if Ericsson hmd220 is supported07:06
ggellerIs us.archive.ubuntu.com down?07:06
Seveasdougsko -> build-essential07:06
warpforgedoug: install build-essential07:06
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Seveasggeller, /topic07:06
MFenDoes anyone know where I can find a downloadable CD label for Breezy?07:06
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eyequeueggeller:  slow, not down, see /topic07:07
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MFenoh nm, google is my friend.  .. http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=19307:07
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dougskoSeveas: is that a package, or a gcc command?07:07
dougskook cool07:07
ggellerThanks07:07
dougskothanks07:07
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sdepooteI tried to install nvidia with the binaries in breezy, tried it with the installer from nvidia.com.. but it didn't work.. everytime i try to start x it hangs... black screen, no reaction... any ideas?07:08
MFenactually, followup question: is there an SVG version of this label anywhere?07:08
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concept10Seveas, having fun today?07:08
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jxpxanyone can help me , i cant edit my sources.list , i dont know why , its blocked, i can delete something and add something , its strange!07:08
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elvirolooh god i'm lost07:09
elvirolohow do i add user icecast2 to group icecast ?07:09
mustard5sdepoote, did you follow any ubuntu guides or just the guide from the nvidia site?07:09
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eyequeueif anyone knows of a dvd image for breezy, please consider /msg'ing me  (the mirror listed on the website is empty)07:09
eyequeueelvirolo:  sudo adduser icecast2 icecast07:10
mustard5jxpx, how are you trying to edit it?07:10
eyequeueelvirolo:  sudo adduser username groupname07:10
reiki_workjxpx , use: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:10
jxpxtes its ok07:10
rodietzeeyequeue sorry, but I don't mean to upgrade my hoary to breezy but Will install a brand new breezy in my hdd, so after done, can I do it: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop? but I just have kubuntu 5.04 not 5.10... any problems?07:10
sdepootemustard5, yep, tried them both.. (tried some other things too).. but nothing worked... log looks rather fine, no errors and stuff07:10
dougskoare the repositories down? i cant stat any sources07:10
elviroloeyequeue: THANK YOU07:10
elvirolooops07:10
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elvirolosorry07:10
bpfanyone have vmware working on breezy yet?07:10
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CokeWhats up everyone07:11
sdepootemustard5, btw, it was working fine in warty and hoary...07:11
mustard5sdepoote, k07:11
Cokewhoa that sounds nasty07:11
elviroloahhh it doesn't work07:11
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eyequeuerodietze:  installing from the 5.04 cd will get you hoary.  you can upgrade from that, or you can install fresh from a breezy (5.10) cd is you have one.  kubuntu-desktop is what gets you kde07:11
elvirolodoes anyone know about icecast ?07:11
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mustard5sdepoote, I'm not sure about what the problem is.  Without walking through it step by step.07:11
eyequeueif you have one07:12
mustard5sdepoote, how about you pick a guide and work your way through it again07:12
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rodietzeeyequeue yeah? But dcan't I have breezy like this: ubuntu 5.10 and kubuntu 5.04?07:12
mustard5sdepoote, and report here and the process07:12
jadacyrusI need help figuring out the BusID for one of my video cards07:13
CokeIm still using wartyhog, should i switch to breezy or stay?07:13
oris_wolfbaneCoke, stay, the servers are overloaded07:13
Cokeokay07:13
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eyequeuerodietze:  5.04 means hoary (which still works heh) and 5.10 means breezy07:13
fbncan somebody confirm that help for disks-manager in Gnome is not available on Breezy resulting in an error if clicking on help?07:13
mustard5Coke, yeah...can't access Breezy repos atm07:13
jadacyruscan someone help me figure out the BusID for a video card07:13
sdepootemustard5, this is what I first did (after a clean install of Breezy this morning):07:14
Cokei gotcha07:14
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fbnjadacyrus: try lspci -vv07:14
mustard5sdepoote, paste in #flood07:14
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Trackilizer!sources07:14
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)07:14
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something_elseok, does hal not work?07:14
something_elsein breezy that is07:14
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jadacyrus0000:02:03.0 VGA compatible controller: would it be 'PCI:2:3:0' then?07:14
something_elsethis is a clean install07:14
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something_elseyet it seems cd roms work07:15
something_elsebut not usb07:15
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boneeanyone running 5.1007:16
Ravarinbonee: Yep07:16
fbnbonee: sure :)07:16
boneehow is it07:16
sdepootemustard5, installed nvidia-glx, ran nvidia-glx-config enable and restarted X... this gave me the black screen and no reaction07:16
jadacyrusi cant figure out the BusID07:16
Ravarinbonee: Seems fine. :)  No problems here.07:16
lllmanulllbonee, fine :)07:16
boneejust checkin07:17
mustard5hmmmm..07:17
mustard5sdepoote, and now you are trying to install the commercial drivers?07:17
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jadacyrusis lspci says 0000:02:03.0 what would the BusID be for xorg.conf07:18
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ScatterBrainIs there a way I can add the "Start Terminal" back to the pop-up menu when I right-click on the desktop?07:19
mustard5ScatterBrain, yeah i want that again too07:19
smhey all.. anyone know how to install the missing libforms-java package that freemind needs ?07:19
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jadacyrusif lspci says 0000:02:03.0 what would the BusID be for xorg.conf07:19
Sonderbladei'm updating to breezy and i get lots of warnings from perl saying it cannot set my locale?07:19
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Cokels -lai07:19
mustard5I've put in a keyboard shortcut now for terminal to compensate07:19
Zvjerhi07:20
ubuntuhi07:20
warpforgesonder: fix your package conflict for firefox07:20
sdepootemustard5, I've just tried those.. downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run (latest 7676 gave mismatch), executed it succesfully, changed xorg.conf according to the nvidia readme.. this gave the same result as before07:20
mustard5removed nvidia-glx beforehand?07:20
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Sonderbladewarpforge: what?07:20
ZvjerI'll be short: anyone tryed new skype.deb on breezy? it requires newer qt lib :(07:20
sdepootemustard5, yes07:20
warpforgesonder: see the new pre-upgrade suggestion I added to the upgrade guide07:20
Cokerm everything07:20
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rodietzeargh.... please anybody can understand me? I have ubuntu 5.10, can I apt-get kubuntu-desktop but using kubuntu 5.04 instead 5.10? will it have conflicts? I mean ubuntu-breazy 5.10 and the KDE applications such Quanta? that will be from kubuntu 5.04?07:20
mustard5sdepoote, bummer...I'm at a loss07:20
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rodietzecoz at home I just have the CDs, no internet connection07:21
sdepootemustard5, ?07:21
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bonee,repositories07:21
warpforgesonder: got it?07:21
kronusgood morning07:21
drijenThomasM: you about?07:21
drijensector10: you ahbout?07:21
Sonderbladewarpforge: yeah thanks07:21
boneewho has the current repositories07:22
kronushow do I force apt-get to download, instead of getting from CD?07:22
Zvjeranyone tryed new skype.deb on breezy? it requires newer qt lib :(07:22
mustard5sdepoote, this is all I have for you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:22
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warpforgesonder: i'm near 100% sure your problem is exactly with those packages07:22
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daanhow do i know if my vidiocard is working or not?07:22
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kronusdoes it display stuff?07:22
kronusthen it works07:22
drijendaan: glxgears07:22
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drijendaan: ati or nvidia07:22
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zoot1any clue how to fix this error: RPC: failed to contact portmap (errno -5) [portmap _is_ running] 07:23
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Sonderbladewarpforge: the remove doesn't work, yelp is dependant on mozilla it says07:23
daandrijen: i have ati07:23
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sdepootemustard5, did that already...07:23
drijendaan: gl with that :)07:23
daandrijen: hehe ok07:23
mustard5sdepoote, yeah...sorry..i07:23
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ssamkronus, you have to take the cd line out of /etc/apt/sources.list07:23
TrackilizerI have a problem guys, after updating my sources.list file i the run "sudo apt-get update" but it says something about not being able to connect or something, is this normal?07:23
dradulrodietze, you will have some laggin versions, but the upgrade from CD will be cleaner (you'll have even the pat source list updated to the latest :-)07:23
ssamkronus, or put a # at the front of that line07:23
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david__hi, how can I install java + netbeans on ubuntu?07:24
sdepootemustard5, nope ;) tnx for listening ;)07:24
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kronusssam: thanks07:24
Coke$ cp chapter "chapter*"07:24
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ssamkronus, then you might need to do apt-get update07:24
elvirolostrange07:24
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rodietzedradul Oh thanks a lot! I just have the cd ubuntu 5.10 and kubuntu 5.04, so I can have both so I can use KDE and gnome apps? but using an oldder07:24
kron_k07:24
TrackilizerSO, is the fact that "sudo apt-get update" isn't working at the moment normal?07:24
cevizogluwow, 711 people on here, is that a record?07:24
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cevizogluTrackilizer, depends on your mirror07:25
mustard5sdepoote, np07:25
daanDoes anyone know how i can see if my ati card is working?07:25
rodietzekubuntu, I mean doesn't ubuntu 5.10 expect me to have obligated a kubuntu 5.1007:25
elviroloif i do "useradd xxx && su xxx && whoami" it tells me "xxx"07:25
TrackilizerI changed my sources.list file according to the faq.07:25
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TrackilizerBut it simply won't update.07:25
dradulrodietze, yes. that's correct. Yet, there may be some kinks that would be better solved if you can get your hands on a Kubuntu 5.10 Cd eventually.07:25
TrackilizerIt can't connect.07:25
ssamTrackilizer, i think the servers are very busy07:25
elvirolobut if I do (as elvirolo) "su icecast2 && whoami" it says "elvirolo"07:26
warpforgetrack: try a different repo server07:26
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kron__ssam: could you please repeat (apt-get no cd), i closed window >.<07:26
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TrackilizerWell, the thing is i don't know how.07:26
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cevizogluTrackilizer, I can update just fine right now.  You might want to switch to a mirror07:26
TrackilizerHow?07:26
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tristanmikeI can't update either07:26
cevizoglu!tell Trackilizer about repositories07:26
TrackilizerWould you mind sending me your sources.list file?07:26
TrackilizerPlease07:26
ssamkron, put a # at the start of the cd line at the top of /etc/apt/sources.list07:26
kron_thanks, again07:27
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dradulrodietze, If you don't have access to the net, the dependecy management in apt will allow you to have coexisting the Gnome apps from 5.10 with the KDE from 5.04. There is no real problem there.07:27
zyphoh i see, no wonder i couldn't upgrade07:27
TrackilizerI know, i used that, doen't seem to be working.07:27
rodietzedradul!! thanks07:27
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zypheveryone's eating bandwidth07:27
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davedwhats the name of that program that takes a source tarball and tries to auto-make a .deb ?07:27
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mustard5daved, alien?07:27
cevizogluTrackilizer, that won't work, because I have a very specialized sources.list.  What you need to do, though, is choose a mirror closest to you07:27
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zyphi do have a question though, i'm running breezy badger test07:27
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naliothdaved: can you compile source?07:28
zyphdo i need to change my repositories?07:28
naliothmustard5: that is to convert RPMs to .deb07:28
naliothzyph: no you do not07:28
Drauconperhaps dpkg-buildpackage07:28
mustard5nalioth, k07:28
dradulzyph, if you updated your install yesterday from the net, you already have the officual, stable release.07:28
zyphthanks nalioth07:28
zyphi didn't07:28
mustard5what does apt-get checkinstall do?07:28
cevizogluTrackilizer, here is where you can get a list of mirrors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive07:28
mustard5or was it dpkg checkinstall07:29
davednalioth: if i have a directory in which i would ./configure && make  is there anything i can run to just turn that dir into a deb07:29
zyphi think i got breezy when it came out07:29
mustard5hehe07:29
mustard5cant remember now07:29
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naliothmustard5: it builds a deb AFTER you've compiled the source. (it's used in place of "make install"07:29
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mustard5k07:29
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naliothdaved: yes, as i said to mustard5, use 'checkinstall' instead of "make install"07:29
Trackilizer!sources07:29
uboturumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)07:29
mirakhi07:29
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oSxanyone have any 5.10 breezy backport/extra reposotory site?07:29
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zyphi like ubuntu, but i think there's a lot of stuff missing from repositories07:29
davednalioth: thanks07:29
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oSxzyph: same thing07:29
naliothzyph: have you enabled universe and multiverse?07:30
oSxcant find any of my fav apps07:30
zyphyeah07:30
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mirakis there a way to mount samba share on the file system with the GUI ? he vfs suck a bit07:30
oSxnalioth: how do you do that?07:30
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naliothubotu: tell oSx about repos07:30
mirakthe vfs with nautilus suck a bit07:30
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davednalioth: does it matter if i ./configure with --prefix /usr or not?07:30
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zyphfor instance, there are some games that are in debian repositories or have gentoo ebuilds, but aren't in ubuntu universe07:30
dradulzyph, if you already have a breezy colony CD explore the uses of jigit. That's how I updated my ISO to the release version this morning, I only had to download les than 100 Mb, everything else was already in the apt cache.07:30
oSxok thanks nalioth07:31
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naliothdaved: not at all, although that is usually the default07:31
Dreezardhi everyone07:31
zyphcolony CD?07:31
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naliothzyph: not in multiverse, either?07:31
zyphnalioth, no07:31
dradulzyph, yes, something like the release candidate Cd or alike.07:31
zyphah, dradul07:31
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DreezardI've got a question concerning deb packagages and their attributes07:32
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Trackilizercevizoglu, thanks for the info, worked great.07:32
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naliothDreezard: ask your questions to the channel07:32
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DreezardI want to change the attribute of an existing packagage but don't know how to do that07:32
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solidgrooveis there a canada mirror for breezy?07:32
solidgrooveor usa that works07:32
ColonelKerneleven the ubuntuy torrent is going slow07:33
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naliothsolidgroove: www.ubuntulinux.org/download  has mirrors listed07:33
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merriamColonelKernel: the torrent is fast here.07:33
Dreezarddoes sb know how to do that?07:33
mustard5Dreezard, what attribute of the file?07:33
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zyphi can only use ubuntu deb packages right? not general debian packages?07:33
ezerhodenanyone running e17?07:33
ColonelKernelmerriam, im getting 50kB a second here, I wonder whats wrong07:33
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solidgroovenice07:34
dradulzyph, that's correct.07:34
axeusDoes snes9x come with any ROMs ?07:34
TrackilizerHere comes the next problem, following the info on the FAQ i tried to install RealPlayer but i get this error: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:34
Dreezardwell... attributes like the distributor and/or the version07:34
naliothColonelKernel: a million people getting breezy ??07:34
zyphaxeus, bad question07:34
zyphaxeus, no07:34
TiMiDoyeah07:34
axeuszyph: ... :|07:34
TiMiDomust be07:34
ColonelKernelnalioth, should be a plus not a minux with bittorrent07:34
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axeusWhy, is it a "legal" thing?07:34
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zyphpretty much07:34
axeusAh, thought they would have dropped that sorta thing by now.07:35
zyphnot even close07:35
zyphbut this is getting off topic07:35
foxgamerHey all. You've probably been asked this like a million times already, but, have the repositories changed in the last 12 hours?07:35
axeus*cough* .. anyways :)07:35
TrackilizerFollowing the info on the FAQ i tried to install RealPlayer but i get this error: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- What should i do?07:35
jrattner1Any DVD images avaialable yet?07:35
naliothfoxgamer: breezy has released. the servers are being hammered07:35
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jagfsfhowdy.07:36
naliothTrackilizer: dont repeat so often. if someone knows the answer, they will answer you07:36
foxgamerah. That's all. phew! I can wait :) Thank you nalioth07:36
naliothTrackilizer: we are not ignoring you07:36
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barnes_Does Ubuntu 5.10 support wireless cards?07:36
something_elsewhat happened to autmount with usb?07:36
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TrackilizerSo i take it no one knows the answer?07:36
kronus-woah, apt-get is going slow07:36
Tomcat_barnes_: Yes.07:36
something_elsebarnes, it certainly does07:36
Tomcat_barnes_: Not all of them, but many.07:36
KnelixHey, anyone know of any good Halloween gnome/Ubuntu desktop pics?07:36
sector10anybody know something about simple file sharing with NFS?07:36
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jagfsfam i just dumb/blind, or does apache2 in ubuntu not have mod_negotiation?07:36
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barnes_I have a dlink and could not get it to work on 5.0407:37
naliothTrackilizer: install "libstdc++507:37
barnes_I'm downloading 5.10 right now.07:37
something_elseI just dont get it, no usb in breezy?07:37
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Dreezardmustard5: well. shot story: I wanted to make a deb package out of some files. I packed them in a tar.gz file and converted them with alien to a deb. And now i want to change the attributes like author and version07:37
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foxgamerTrackilizer: I have had the same problem. I couldn't solve it myself - are you trying to use it on a 64bit machine?07:38
naliothDreezard: open them back up and get to editing07:38
sector10im using the shared folder window in admin to setup NFS07:38
TrackilizerNo!07:38
naliothDreezard: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch07:38
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TrackilizerBut like nalioth said install libstdc++5.07:38
sector10!NFS07:39
ubotuit has been said that nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.07:39
Dreezardthx. ill take a look @ nalioth07:39
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sharmastreetis this a naughty room07:39
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naliothsharmastreet: that would be #ubuntu-offtopic07:39
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fridge_Does the latest deb package 'mythtv' replace all the old packages of mythdvd, mythweather, mythgallery correctly? It wants to remove these old packages, and I'd rather not break it by upgrading and finding out it has removed most of the functionality.07:40
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sector10question, can samba share between two linux boxes files?07:40
VR^how do i install a cursor theme?07:40
sharmastreetwhats with all the weired names07:40
NoUsesector10 yes07:40
naliothsector10: yes, but it's better to use NFS07:40
ezerhodennalioth: is e17 available in ubuntu repositories?07:40
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sharmastreetboring naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:41
fredforfaenanybody here knows how to get e17 to work on breezy?07:41
naliothsharmastreet: please liven up #ubuntu-offtopic07:41
sharmastreetwat east 17 loser07:41
naliothezerhoden: not yet07:41
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pittihas anyone ever tried multisync to sync evo between two computers?07:41
fredforfaenlol07:41
sector10NoUse: does autofs need to be setup in Ubuntu07:41
henrysonvr: add gcursor from the repositories!07:42
henrysonVR^ : add gcursor from the repositories07:42
pittiI can connect two syncml instances, but it does not actually sync07:42
jagfsfam i just dumb/blind, or does apache2 in ubuntu not have mod_negotiation?07:42
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NoUsesector10 not for samba07:43
olli_04hi... i have no sound after upgrading from "breezer badger preview" to "breezer badger finel" 5.10 to day, what's wrong?07:43
olli_04sound was working before i upgrade07:43
sector10ok ill try nfs07:43
naliothubotu: tell sector10 about nfs07:44
VR^henryson: thanks07:44
HiddenWolf_Guys, I have a problem with pppoeconf.07:44
[216] Shadeyhey guys is their going to be an Ubuntuguide for v5.10 like for v5.04 at http://ubuntuguide.org/? That was probably one of the best aspects of 5.04, it made using it so easy07:45
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jagfsfolli_04 -- just a guess, but go into System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Systems Selector, and change the default output to custom pipeline: "alsasink device=hw:0"07:45
sector10nalioth: i found it already thanks07:45
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speelwow07:45
ROBOdhi07:45
speel717 :D07:45
olli_04jagfsf: thanks, i will try07:45
ezerhodenis it possible to have nautilus reuse the open window when digging down into a folder?07:45
HiddenWolf_[216] Shadey, I'd imagine so, but ubuntu guide is not official, and has little to do with ubuntu and the community.07:46
speelhey are the repo servers getting hammerd?07:46
olli_04jagfsf: how to do this under kubuntu?07:46
HiddenWolf_speel, yes, heavily.07:46
hajikiSo what is the main difference between the normal release and the ubuntu-server release? How is it 'optimized' for servers?07:46
speelHiddenWolf_, ah ok lol thanks07:46
HiddenWolf_hajiki, technically, nothing07:46
hajikibut...07:47
jagfsfolli_04 -- :-/ never really used kde much... don't know exactly about artsd etc07:47
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naliothhajiki: the server install has no gui parts07:47
ernieeI know this has been asked already but if you had the preview installed do you need to upgrade to the release version?07:47
olli_04jagfsf: ok07:47
HiddenWolf_hajiki, comes from the same cd, but if you type server, you get only ubuntu-base and -minimal, and can add the server programs you need07:47
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mustard5hajiki, its a minimal install07:47
raingrove_does ubuntu/kubuntu 5.10 have any upgrades available?07:47
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HiddenWolf_raingrove_, no07:47
raingrove_i mean.. i installed 5.10, but is there any update on top of it?07:47
naliotherniee: if you leave your system be, it will alert you when an upgrade is necessary or available07:48
kronus-i picked the worst day possible to fiddle with my install :/07:48
wezzerhmm, does someone has beagle up and running in hoary?07:48
hajikiHiddenWolf_, isnt that what the server boot option does on the regular CD?07:48
wezzercommand best shows only some errors07:48
ernieenalioth: thanks07:48
naliothraingrove_: it just released this morning, give em a day or two07:48
HiddenWolf_hajiki, yes.07:48
wezzerdata has been indexed though07:48
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[216] ShadeyI can probably use the 5.04 guide to get running with 5.10. Where can i find like a list of recomended repositories?07:48
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axeusActually: I think it's perfectly legal to download a snes ROM if you own and have in your possession a cartridge which you bought of the same game.07:48
HiddenWolf_hajiki, server project is a project to get all the right software shipped with the right configurations, but it's not a different beast altogether.07:49
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axeusAnd I've got an SNES and a copy of Super Mario World. So that's the ROM I'm looking for.07:49
HiddenWolf_[216] Shadey, all you need are the regular repro's07:49
hajikiHiddenFly, OH that makes more sense now, thanks07:49
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dmlinuxHey guys, how do i make gdesklets run at startup, i do sessions/startup and put the command gDesklets in there and it never runs at start up07:49
HiddenWolf_[216] Shadey, enable universe, perhaps multiverse, you'll be fine07:49
henrysonquestion about two network interfaces:  a ubuntu box, two nicks. The internet connection only works if "default gateway interface" is set to eth1, and local net if set to eth0.... how do i get both to work simultaniously?07:49
HiddenWolf_hajiki, no problem, but watch your tabbing. :)07:49
tristanmikeaxeus, it's kinda off-topic, but in most countries, it's only legal if you "rip" them yourself off of your own cartridge07:49
hajikiwoops! sorry07:50
sandollarhey folks how do ya play mp3's in xmms07:50
hajikidmlinux, you can make sure gdesklets is running and right before you logoff or shutdown, check the box that says save your current session.07:50
Answerdoes anybody have a repository just for 5.04 packages...  all I want is secpanel and it is so slow bc everyone is upgrading07:50
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axeustristanmike: You wouldn't happen to know the US code would you? :S07:51
something_elsehmm well its not usb thats the problem07:51
something_elsestrange07:51
hkaishello07:51
NoUseAnswer try some mirror07:51
something_elsean external usb hard disk of 30 gig doesnt automount07:51
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naliothubotu: tell sandollar about mp307:51
axeustristanmike: Or know of a channel better suited for this type of discussion?07:51
something_elseyet a 512 usb stick does07:51
dmlinuxhajiki where is that check box?07:51
tristanmikeaxeus, #ubuntu-offtopic07:52
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axeusThanks.07:52
tristanmikenp07:52
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hajikidmlinux, on the dialog you get when you click logout07:53
[216] Shadeywhat's the deal with backport repositories, are they genereally bad news? On my 5.04 installation I was unable to get Samba going after installing many packages, and I was told it was possibly because of using packeges from backports07:53
dmlinuxhajiki im runnign breezy, i dont see that box07:53
hajikisystem > logout07:53
twysted[216] Shadey dont use them unless you know what to use them for ;)07:53
nalioth[216] Shadey: backports have in the past been haphazard. but they have recently become 'official' and are slowly becoming streamlined so as not to break things07:54
hajikidmlinux, i am also running breezy07:54
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nalioth[216] Shadey: but as twysted says, dont use em unless you need something07:54
[216] Shadeyhmm, cool thanks for the info07:54
hajikidmlinux, when you click on system > logout you get a window with options to logout, showdown, and reboot07:54
dmlinuxhajiki ok i see that07:55
hajikidmlinux, on top of all of those is an option to save your current setup07:55
hajikidmlinux, do you see the option now?07:55
dmlinuxone sec took a screeny07:55
dmlinuxhajiki no07:55
HiddenWolf_Can anyone here help me? I upgraded a perfectly fine working laptop from 5.04 to 5.10, and suddenly I can't connect over pppoe07:55
hajikidmlinux, ok ill show you how to turn it on07:55
dmlinuxhajiki sweet07:55
hajikigo to system > prefereces > sessions07:56
dmlinuxhajiki ok07:56
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hajikidmlinux, on the 'session options' tab what boxes do you see checked07:56
dmlinuxhajiki i dont have a "SESSION OPTIONS"07:56
hajikidmlinux, i guess you could also add gdesklets to the 'startup programs' tab07:57
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Dreezardi've read the howto but that is just overkill for a simple deb package with 4 compiled files.07:57
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hajikidmlinux, weird, your installed seems broken to me07:57
dmlinuxhajiki oh i see a session options sorrt07:57
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dmlinuxhajiki lol my bad, there is a options07:57
miraklinux community never did class actions to sue hardware manufacturer for not giving out specs ?07:57
hajikidmlinux, ive seen those options since gnome 1.407:57
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Dreezardisnt there an easier way to change attributes /after/ the package was made?07:58
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[216] Shadeycan someone link me the .torrent for the x86 distro installation disk? The Ubuntu mirrors are getting hammered07:58
hmrochahello, just a question...07:58
dmlinuxhajiki i put gDesklets, it is case sensitive07:58
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hajikidmlinux, cool!07:58
iapx8088hi all07:58
hkaisdoes anybondy know more about Dapper Drake and the server version?07:59
iapx8088A link for upgrading to hoary to breezy?07:59
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iapx8088I mean some infos and so on07:59
cevizogluserver version?07:59
naliothhkais: there is no dapper drake07:59
hajikiiapx8088, read the topic :)07:59
hkaisyes07:59
cevizogluhkais, what about a server version?07:59
naliothubotu: tell iapx8088 about upgrade2breezy07:59
dmlinuxhajiki is that all i need to do?07:59
newz2000Trying to get details of all mp3 files. This doesn't work if there's a space in the filename, any suggestions: for i in `find ./ | egrep '.*mp3$'`; do ls -l $i; done07:59
mustafuJust a quick question....my monitor does a lot of flickering at high resolutions (1280 x 1024, namely)...is this a sign that the monitor is possibly going bad?07:59
hajikidmlinux, that should do it07:59
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iapx8088hajki thanks07:59
hmrochaif i create a /var partition and a /var/log and /var/spool...07:59
dmlinuxhajiki ok ill brb07:59
hmrocha.../var only stores the files that are not in log and spool right?08:00
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hkaisI read today a german news posting, that drapper drake will get 3 years support and the server version 5years08:00
twystedmustafu> lower your res and that should fix it08:00
hajikimustafu, you probably need to fix the refresh rate by putting in the correct values in /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:00
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Shuflahello :) congrats :)08:00
raingrove_hey guys08:00
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hkaiscevizoglu http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/6486208:00
hajikimustafu, or also like twysted said, you are probably using too high of a resolution08:00
raingrove_can u please add confirmation & warning message before things like rm -rf is carried out?08:00
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mustafuok, great, thanks for the help08:01
kemikraingrove_:  what ya mean ?08:01
hajikiraingrove_, add an alias to your bash files like alias rm='rm -i'08:01
tristanmikemustafu, perhaps your refresh rate is off..? maybe08:01
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kemikraingrove_:  use the -i08:01
mustafuthe monitor thinks its at h: 84 and v: 81.008:02
mustafunot sure if that helps or anything :/08:02
lonkiraingrove_ just be careful with / foo, that will destroy the system, and if you want the warning then set an alias in your shell startup script08:02
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raingrove_thanks very much08:02
hajikimustafu, google your monitor and make sure those values are correct, and then make sure they are correct in /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:02
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mustafuk, thanks a bunch!08:03
hkaisno one here with knowledge about the support of drapper drake? (3 and/or 5years support)08:03
tristanmikemustafu, try "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitor range" this should give you some ranges to work with08:03
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twystedhkais> its not even out so why worry?08:04
KnelixHey a release party would be a great idea...08:04
KnelixI wonder if there are even enough users in my area, though.08:04
hkaistwysted: I want now to descide if I will switch to opensuse or to ubuntu08:04
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twystedhkais id use ubuntu, it should be 5 years sever support though08:05
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hkaistwysted: there can I find infos about the server version?08:06
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twystedhkais do you mean kernel version?08:06
hkaistwysted: here is the post of mark shutterworth http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=35037808:06
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hkaistwysted: read the post of mark sh.08:06
Tomcat_Oh what a fancy hat :D08:06
Patrik88is this the "right" channel ?? :P08:06
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=== Tomcat_ thanks cevizoglu
twystedhkais ive read it before08:06
twystedhkais but i still dont really understand your quesiton of what the server version will be08:07
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hkaisthere is a guaranteed support for desktop 3years and for server 5 years. but I cannot see:08:08
hkais- if the server is also free?08:08
hkais- if not, what will be the kosts08:08
hkais- is there already a server version?08:08
Patrik88im getting this error : Couldn't find package gzopen, when im trying to install ettercap, anyone know how to solve it??08:08
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twystedhkais server is free it uses the same install as desktop would but at the boot prompt you type 'server'08:08
hkaissuse and redhat have both a desktop and an enterprise (server) version08:08
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naliothhkais: there is a server version08:08
kronus-i'm running teh server version08:08
twystedhkais so for example breezy is 5.10 the server basically is the same08:08
naliothPatrik88: are you using non official repos?08:08
kronus-it's just a stripped down desktop install08:08
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Patrik88what??08:09
twystedhkais server install is just a base system, just what it takes for basic use everything else to be installed is your choice08:09
naliothPatrik88: are you using any non ubuntu repositories?08:09
hkaisthat means, that the same installation media will have support for 3 and 5 years depending on the installation?08:09
twystedhkais, yes08:09
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thomerzhi, can someone help me with a problem, my xserver doesnt starts, i have tried the fixes on wiki, this is mei xorg.0.log -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rcpIxH86.html08:09
hkaisthat is fine.08:09
Patrik88i dont know so i think not08:09
hkaisokay i think i have to switch to ubuntu08:10
wrabbitnalioth, you around? All done08:10
wrabbitAnything else I'll need to do?08:10
twystedhkais cool :) if you need help just ask, i run ubuntu as a server myself08:10
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cevizogluhkais, dapper drake is the name for the ubuntu release which will occur in six months. it's nonexistent right now08:10
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lonkijust a question, are there any ubuntu mirrors for updating using apt-get?08:11
twystedcevizoglu, we already sorted it out :)08:11
dbuganyone can tell me how reinstall a aplication with apt-get on terminal ?08:11
henrysondoes the values entered with "route add -net" stay, even if i reboot my machine?08:11
lonkior just the ones in the sources.list?08:11
naliothubotu: tell dbug about apt-get08:11
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infernallmy god.  is there anywhere else i can get the acidrip .deb package?! i need to rip a customers dvd at the office, but i cant download it with synaptic08:11
lonkihenryson no08:11
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twystedlonki there are more but they are not always sync'd with the main mirror08:11
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lonkihmm, k08:11
henrysonlonki, where do i add that line?08:12
Patrik88nalioth: dont think so??08:12
twystedinfernall, if u can download the package you can sudo dpkg -i package.deb08:12
Patrik88nalioth: any ideas?08:12
henrysondbug: sudo apt-get install (packagename)08:12
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naliothPatrik88: you should not be having any pkg diffeculties. however the repos are getting hammered atm08:12
hkaistwysted: many thanks for your help!08:12
twystedhkais your welcome08:12
lonkihenryson, not sure how ununtu arranges it, somewhere in /etc/sysconfig/networking in other distro's you can set a ifup-ethX08:12
naliothinfernall: you may break your box if you use the wrong deb08:13
henrysonlonki, thanx, i will lokk into it!08:13
lonkihenryson, but people in here can tell you how it is done in ubuntu08:13
Patrik88nalioth: is that ehy it says that the packages cant be found when im trying to install them??08:13
naliothPatrik88: the most likely reason today, yes (and probably for a few more days)08:13
Howdy125acidrip has alot of deps08:14
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dbugnalioth, tks :)08:14
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lonkitwysted, thanks08:14
misiek2000hi08:14
Patrik88nalioth: oh thats too bad, any other ways to do it??08:14
naliothPatrik88: not while the repos are getting hammered08:14
misiek2000i need some interesing reprisitories :)08:14
infernallso, no fast repositories?08:15
naliothmisiek2000: interesting?08:15
Patrik88nalioth: well thx anyways08:15
naliothinfernall: not today, i'm afraid08:15
misiek2000nalioth,  with interesing stuff. soft etc08:15
naliothubotu: tell misiek2000 about sources08:15
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zeus1_guys im having big problems with breezy08:16
occyheh08:16
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Patrik88nalioth: if they hadnt been hammered is it possible yo install ettercap from there?? without having to ./configure, make, make install and thing like that??08:16
occyI can't get thunderbird08:16
occywhich is what I need to get my email.08:16
occy:/08:16
zeus1_the problem would take a long time to explain here so Ill post a link to where I can show u the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7526508:16
misiek2000ok i will see:)08:16
ChadzaAnyone know of a program that'll let me create and set up a sql database (not through a web server)?08:17
naliothPatrik88: yes, once the mad rush to get breezy dies off, you shouldnt have any problems08:17
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infernallhow do i build a .deb package froma  tarball?08:17
naliothubotu: tell Patrik88 about sources08:17
avrthomerz, have you tried starting X plain from the console ?08:17
thomerzavr, yes08:17
naliothinfernall: ./configure && make && checkinstall08:17
thomerzits funny, hoary worked without problems08:17
Patrik88ubotu: yes please08:17
ubotuPatrik88: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:17
naliothubotu: tell infernall about checkinstall08:18
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naliothubotu: tell Patrik88 about yourself08:18
TiMiDolol08:18
Patrik88??08:18
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_willcooke_Chadza, What do you need to do exactly?  Creating a mysql database is very easy.08:18
naliothPatrik88: check your private messages08:19
zeus1_guys help in breezy when I go to networking config properties and edit properties for wireless connection it locks up and i have to force quit it then after that gnome gets really glitchy!!! heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!08:19
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cantona_amy real local mirror08:19
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avrthomerz, ok, have you already tried configuring for simple 'svga' or 'vga', or perhaps turning of dri ?08:19
joe_alfhow do i setup internet connection sharing from my ubuntu to wmware guest windows xp using bridge. from host ubuntu i can ping win xp (guest) and from guest OS i can ping host OS. from windows i configure networking.08:19
graabeinbreezy breezy breezy breezy breezy breezy breezy08:19
Patrik88hehe now i get it08:19
Lickeranyone know how to setup a password for root for mysql for ubuntu?08:20
cantona_why all xx.archive.ubuntu.com is same08:20
Chadza_willcooke_: I'm playing around with rubyonrails, and I need to set up a database with 2 tables in it.08:20
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thomerzavr, no i havent, but i cant unterstand why this has worked in hoary without problems08:20
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leonelis there a graphical  frontend for   pppoeconf  and   pon dsl-provider ?08:20
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meffcan someone tell me if 5.10 supports the IT812x ide chipsets? iirc this driver came with 2.6.13 and breezy seems to be 2.6.12..08:21
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_willcooke_Chadza, Have you got mysql installed etc?08:21
avrthomerz, perhaps an xorg upgrade or a kernel upgrade.08:21
Howdy125Anyone know how to disable S.M.A.R.T on a hard drive ?? .. Some way to tell it it's not really broken or something ..08:21
ChadzaYeah.08:21
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Chadza_willcooke_: Yeah.08:21
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zeus1_anyone plz help in breezy when I go to networking config properties and edit properties/options for wireless connection it locks up and i have to force quit it then after that gnome gets really glitched help plzz08:22
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_willcooke_Chadza, can you get in to the command line interface?08:22
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Chadza_willcooke_: Yep.08:22
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_willcooke_Chadza, Cool.  Then go in the command line and do "create database <database name>"08:23
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JairunCalothshould I upgrade to breezey or wait a little longer?08:24
_willcooke_Chadza, oo, you'll need a ";" on the end.08:24
pinucsetupgrade! :D08:24
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pinucsetit is stablenow :D08:24
misiek2000i waiting for shipit:P08:24
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tasukihello, I have already written on the forum, but noone helped me there yet... after dist-upgrading to breezy I can't set keyboards in gnome and switch between them08:25
peeraHelp me08:25
_willcooke_JairunCaloth, if you're in now hurry wait a little while for the servers to get a little less busy!08:25
_willcooke_s/now, no08:25
Chadza_willcooke_: Do I need mysql in front of that?08:25
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JairunCalothI forgot that breezy just came out today and I just got done installing hory on my roomates computer08:25
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SupIAmMikebit torrent of breezy avaliable?08:25
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tasukiand it seems more people have the same problem like me08:25
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_willcooke_Chadza, Yeah, so do a "mysql" to get the console up, then (assuming you've got rights set up) "create database <whatever>;"08:26
zeus1_ guys help in breezy when I go to networking config properties and edit properties for wireless connection it locks up and i have to force quit it then after that gnome gets really glitchy!!! heelp!08:26
_willcooke_Chadza, Where <whatever> is your database name08:26
Gobblaumm does anybody remember how many packages there was on a 5.04-5.10 dist upgrade?08:26
Chadza_willcooke_: Okay, lemme try again08:26
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effieHello, I am experiencing a rather slow connection speed when updating ubuntu08:26
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occy:(08:27
effieI use the nl. archive08:27
_willcooke_effie, Ain't we all!08:27
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occythey got rid of my old beep-media-player skin08:27
brokerSomeone knows how change the working mode of the usb data storage disks ? The operations are not executed until I umount the device08:27
occy*sigh*08:27
effieis this problem known?08:27
peerai want to use n-gage nokia to connect to internet08:27
Chadza_willcooke_: It said "Query okay, 1 row effected"08:27
naliotheffie: millions of people are getting breezy08:27
effieI mean, at home ( where I am not) I had a much faster connection to the ubuntu archive08:27
JairunCalotheffie: Everyone is updateing and downloading right now08:27
naliotheffie: ALL ubuntu mirrors are slow08:27
effieok that was a few days ago08:27
peera08:27
effieok , i see08:27
peera08:27
_willcooke_Chadza, Dahhh dahhh! One database created! (easy eh!) Now you need to create the tables... so "use <whatever you called your database>;"08:27
JairunCalothubuntu got shashdotted today08:27
Gobblanoone? kinda important..08:28
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effieI just installed this for a couple of friends to show off but now I'm still sitting here ;)08:28
naliothpeera: english in here please08:28
Gobblaim at package 323, are there many left?08:28
naliothGobbla: see above re effie08:29
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Gobblanalioth: come again?08:29
naliothGobbla: we just answered effie about the same problem08:29
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JairunCalothIs dist-upgrade relyable, or will I get a better installation just downloading the ISO?08:29
zeus1_ guys help in breezy when I go to networking config properties and edit properties for wireless connection it locks up and i have to force quit it then after that gnome gets really glitched need some assistance08:29
maewhats a good webdav client for ubuntu08:29
Chadza_willcooke_: So what do I do to add a table to it?  I don't know if I got everything that you said08:29
Gobblanalioth: i need to know the amount of packages, i know and understand why there is slow speed08:30
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naliothJairunCaloth: you should never have to install again, apt-get is designed to painlessy upgrade you08:30
peera08:30
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_willcooke_Chadza, To create a table within a database you first need to "use" the database, so 'use <databasename>;', then to create the table...08:30
naliothGobbla: the amount of pkgs has probably scrolled past on your terminal08:30
Gobblanalioth: yes i know08:30
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Gobblathats why im asking08:30
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rob_pzeus1_:  How many instances of network-admin are running (both defunct and alive)?08:30
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naliothGobbla: we cant help you. each system is different08:31
nderjmGreetings from Jamrock08:31
Gobblajust approx. is fine.. like is it 500 or 5000?08:31
_willcooke_Chadza, "create table tablename(col_name TYPE, col_name TYPE, col_name TYPE);' where colname is the name of each column you want to create and TYPE is the type of column it needs to be.08:31
nderjmI've successfully installed Breezy :)08:31
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zeus1_rob_p : not sure but... The first time I try it it locks up, then I have to force quit it....then if I try opening network admin again, I see "opening network admin" thing in the toolbar and then after a few seconds it just disapears08:31
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nderjmunfortunately, I have a slight problem with video, and i have never encountered such a problem08:32
_willcooke_Chadza, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/create-table.html08:32
naliothGobbla: are you upgrading, yes? if so, its' in the 100s08:32
nderjmThe screen wraps around08:32
Gobblanalioth: yes08:32
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zeus1_rob_p: Then after that, if i try opening OpenOffice 2 it does the same thing...08:32
nderjma piece of the top is by the bottom of the screen08:32
thrice`ok...someone explain this one ?08:32
Gobblaok, thx08:32
Chadza_willcooke_: Thank you very much.08:32
rob_pzeus1_:  Do a, "ps -A | grep network-admin" to see if any are still hanging around.08:32
thrice`Linux 2.6.12.6 with many updated drivers from third parties08:32
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thrice`there was never a 2.6.12.6 if I remember correct...08:32
_willcooke_Chadza, No worries.  It looks a little hard to start but you'll soon make sense of it.08:32
nderjmso the Gnome menu for example is at the bottom, but i have to move the mouse to the top of the sceen and it will wrap around and get to the bottom08:33
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nderjmanyone had a similar issue or might know whats causing it?08:33
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Thierry_Hi, I need to buy a laptop tomorrow. I would like one that works well with Ubuntu (15,1 ou 15,4"  screen) could some one help me08:33
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JairunCalothanyone else getting 404 on hory backports?08:33
Chadza_willcooke_: One last question, do you know where this db is, so I can move it to my rails folder?08:33
coolkevi'm unable to send files over xchat to others08:33
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Lars_GIt's out it's out!08:33
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misiek2000somene hear somthing about ebuntu?08:34
thrice`JairunCaloth: breezy is out now...they've likely stopped08:34
Gobblanalioth: do you remember how many you had?08:34
topylimy work box died after installing the fglrx driver for x. this is not good, even if i can easily do with the ati driver on the work box (won't play q3a on it anyway, at least in public)08:34
Dekkardman ubuntu servers are friggin HaMmerEd!08:34
naliothJairunCaloth: backports are either dead or not available yet08:34
rob_pzeus1_:  Did any instances show up?08:34
naliothubotu: tell JairunCaloth about backports08:34
_willcooke_Chadza, I dont know how rails works, but generally things access databases through an api in the language you are using.  So, they talk to the mysql server, not look at the file where the database is held.  Basically, you shouldnt need to move the file.08:34
naliothJairunCaloth: if you're using mirrormax. it is no longer with us08:34
JairunCalothahhh, so the repositorys on ubuntuguide are outdated then08:35
zeus1_rob_p: im in windows right now...i cant set up my internet connection on linux because the network config keeps freezing08:35
zeus1_ill chek in just a sec08:35
topyliJairunCaloth: most things on the ubuntu guide are incorrect, at least these days08:35
naliothJairunCaloth: ubuntuguide is getting more and more out-of-date. use it and break your system08:35
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amaHi, I've never used IRC before, so please forgive me if I'm doing anything wrong...08:37
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amaAnybody had any problems with xscreensaver after upgrading to 5.10?08:38
Thierry_I need Help in the choice of a laptop  plz08:38
rob_pzeus1_:  Is the Linux box on a separate machine?08:38
thrice`Thierry_: that in no way releates to ubuntu08:38
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zeus1_rob_p: No its on the same system but on a different hard drive08:38
topyliama: works fine here08:38
nderjmnder:test08:38
amatopyli, It doesn't take my password when the screen is locked08:39
zeus1_rob_p: brb gonna go test that command08:39
nderjmnderjm:test08:39
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rob_pzeus1_:  wait.08:39
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zeus1_k08:39
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nderjmnderjm:test08:39
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GreatBritoncan anyone help me with setting up a ralink rt2500 wifi card in breezy, please?08:39
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AbstracTusHmmm, is it just me or is just about everything missing from the repositories? (Yes, I've added universe and multiverse)08:40
topyliama: just tested, seems to work08:40
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AbstracTusFor example, I cannot install gFTP08:40
rob_pzeus1_:  Once you do a fresh boot up, that command will not return anything since you won't have launched it.  It's merely a way to see if any defunct network-admin processes are still hanging around after the fact.08:40
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amatopyli, ok thanks. I'll try to mess aroung with my pam config..08:40
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GreatBritonnone of you 716 want to help me?08:41
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KornSlipknot - Left Behind 4m01s 320 kbit/s  44100 Hz08:41
zeus1_rob_p: so what if some defunct network admin processes are there what do I do08:42
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kemikGreatBriton:  see if its not supported and try ndiswrapper08:42
cevizogluThierry_ check out http://linux-laptop.net/08:42
rob_pzeus1_:  Helping you troubleshoot this issue will be very time consuming if you have to keep booting back and forth.  Any other PCs with Internet access?08:42
Patrik88Package zlib1g-dev has no installation candidate, <-- error, anyone, whats wrong??08:42
kemik!tell GreatBriton about ndiswrapper08:42
kemik!tell GreatBriton about wireless08:42
cevizoglutoo late08:42
zeus1_rob_p yes but there in use h/o ill see if I can get a hold of teh lap top08:42
RockyBurtwhats the "most supported" mta in ubuntu  ?08:42
Kira5.10 installation cd still gives me a blank screen on my Toshiba Satellite A70. :(08:42
rob_pzeus1_:  Well, you'd want to kill them and then try and figure out why it's having trouble running in the first place.08:42
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KiraDoes Ubuntu have problems with Pentium 4 HT in general?08:44
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Patrik88Package zlib1g-dev has no installation candidate, <-- error, anyone, whats wrong??08:44
foxgamerGreatBriton: There is a program called wifi radar. This will pick up your wireless network if it is compatible.08:44
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nderjmAnyone having a weird screen wrapping problem with breezy final?08:44
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nderjmMy Menu has wrapped to the bottom, all of the screen for that matter has wrapped to the bottom08:45
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Lars_G!mirrors08:45
ubotumirrors is, like, totally, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive08:45
naliothKira: not that we've heard of08:45
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murrehi08:46
murrewazzup?08:46
murregot 5.10 installed a few hours ago08:46
BOB1234rob_p i got another comp08:46
murreworks like a charm08:46
mypapitmurre: hooray08:46
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GreatBritoni know my card is using a Ralink rt2500 chipset08:46
GreatBritoncan someone guide me (slowly) through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo ?08:47
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rob_pBOB1234:  Ok.  So boot up the Linux box and let's check a few things.08:47
BOB1234k08:48
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dashanybody ever seen gksudo prompt on stdout rather than in a dialog box?08:48
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tristanmikeGreatBriton, ok, what's the trouble?08:49
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tankenmategreetings!08:49
eyequeueoff to do an install, have fun all08:49
JairunCalothI think I'm going to wait to upgrade, till the activity on the servers dies down some08:49
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Sarkiehi08:50
pinucsethi08:50
Sarkiewas going to come in and ask about updates, but the topic says it all08:50
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John64how do i use apt08:50
BOB1234rob_p ok im in what should i do first try to open network-admin ?08:50
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tankenmateanyone had any problems with the stock amd64 install kernel? I'm have weird oops'es in memremap(). I've run memtest86 for 6 hours, and only one random glitch, but then kernel crashes everytime, a weird heisen / bohr bug combination...08:51
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naliothubotu: tell John64 about apt-get08:51
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dashJohn64: try synaptic first maybe? it is a little more friendly :)08:51
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Sarkie!apt-get08:51
ubotuit has been said that apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/08:51
Dekkardopinion.. is breezy snappier?08:51
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zcat[1] gah!! left bittorrent running overnight, seems I've uploaded about 7G .. oops!08:51
JairunCalothBTW, for some of those who are asking. I'm useing a brand new hory install, and after doing apt-get update it says there are 441 updates avalible08:51
John64thanks08:51
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dashDekkard: it has 23.7% more snaps08:51
Sarkiehory??08:51
naliothJohn64: ubotu msgd you08:51
dimmI've got a strange problem08:51
tankenmatedash: :P08:51
JairunCalothI switched to the breezy repositories08:51
Dekkardmmm.. snaps..delicious08:51
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shadeofgreycould someone please take a minutre and direct me to a website or ubuntu support page that details how to download the full official versions of ubuntuy 5.10 in both the gnome and kde verssions?08:52
zcat[1] Dekkard: feels that way to me, when I was running the preview08:52
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GNAMwhat's your favourite breezy bug?08:52
dimmwhen I download files from ftp, the directory permissions are set so that no one can browse them, not even the owner08:52
dashJairunCaloth: pretty much has updated since hoary was released08:52
tankenmatemmm cadbury snaps! peppermint even! i'll take 3!!08:52
Sarkiedimm, the topic?08:52
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rob_pBOB1234:  Let's look at your /etc/network/interfaces file.08:52
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Dekkardthe preview.. that i dist upgraded puked my shytstem.. i reinstalled hoary yesterday..(LAFF) and upgraded from the cd today08:52
naliothshadeofgrey: you'll have to d/l 2 iso images for both of them08:52
JairunCalothsomeone was asking earlier how many packages the breezy upgrade was08:52
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AbstracTusshadeofgrey: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/08:53
dashJairunCaloth: ah. well yeah, that's quite a few... did that include universe packages?08:53
tankenmate[RFC]  anyone had any problems with the stock amd64 install kernel? I'm have weird oops'es in memremap(). I've run memtest86 for 6 hours, and only one random glitch, but then kernel crashes everytime, a weird heisen / bohr bug combination...08:53
GNULinuxerit says i need to install ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop to avoid any upgrade issues. do i install them from the hoary repos or breezy repos? i mean do i do it before the actual dist-upgrade?08:53
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USUARIola08:53
USUARIai alguien ai?08:53
John64ok, my problem was that i was using aptget not apt-get.  What is an example for installing say, firefox08:53
JairunCalothdash: I belive so....08:53
nalioth!es08:53
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:53
shadeofgreyps...  -- If Im already running breezy - the preview release - should i just  use the ubuntu update manager to get my system up to the stable build or should i just say screw it and do fresh installs?  Because currently i have things on this system that are very broken08:53
USUARIoooooolllllllaaaa08:53
dashshadeofgrey: broken how?08:53
USUARIai alguien que sepa hablaespaol???????08:54
rob_pBOB1234:  How many network interfaces do you have in that box?08:54
Sarkieshadeofgrey, the topic08:54
USUARIwhats your name?08:54
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naliothGNULinuxer: just change your sources.list to breezy and upgrade, that ubuntu-base thing is old08:54
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naliothUSUARI: hablamos en #ubuntu-es, por favor08:54
USUARIok08:54
tankenmaterep: hows it?08:54
GNULinuxernalioth: that instruction is deprecated?08:54
shadeofgreydash:  every time i boot i get font errors, and my mplayer installation is fubared08:54
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USUARIolle comop te llamas?+08:55
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USUARIooooooooooooooollllllllllaaaaaaaaaa08:55
USUARIai alguien ai?08:55
tankenmate!boot USUARI08:55
ubotutankenmate: What?08:55
USUARIque sepa hablar espaol?08:55
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shadeofgreysarkie:  well, all i really want to know is how to get the iso's i seek using bittorrent...  i undersstand that its way faster than an ftp download i just have never figured out the animal known as bittorent08:55
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tankenmateoh well :)08:55
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dashnalioth: nice!08:55
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dashstealth ninja kick08:55
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Sarkieshadeofgrey, you need a bittorrent client then a torrent file then its good to go08:56
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concept10im mad, I cant even get downloads to start08:56
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shadeofgreywhere do i get the bittrornt files from?  i alreadyt have the client installed08:56
GNULinuxernalioth: did you kick him?08:56
Madeyeguys, how to open .dmg archive on ubuntu ?08:56
naliothGNULinuxer: kick who?08:56
SupIAmMikeshadeofgrey, go to one of the mirrors08:56
SupIAmMikethey have it there08:56
GNULinuxernalioth: USUARI08:56
SupIAmMikei tried "rest of world" because United states takes too long08:56
naliothMadeye: you need a perl script called "dmg2iso" i believe google can point it out to you08:56
SupIAmMikei am downloading 329kB/s08:57
naliothGNULinuxer: he is not here08:57
saik0probably should have redirected him to the spanish ubuntu irc channel08:57
GNULinuxernalioth: hehe, but you did something to him ;)08:57
Patrik88how do i stop my laptop from going to some form of "hybernation" when i close the lid??08:57
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naliothsaik0: he WAS directed to the spanish ubuntu channel08:57
BOB1234rob_p I have 1 network interface - just the wireless08:57
tankenmatesaik0: he did!08:57
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mohkohnI am patient but I want it now!08:57
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saik0nalioth: oh. I just got here. What I mwant to say was. Good Job nalioth08:57
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GNULinuxernalioth: [OT]  what's the command to redirect somebody to another channel?08:57
rob_pBOB1234:  What chipset?08:58
tankenmate!es08:58
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:58
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tankenmateGNU: like that..08:58
naliothGNULinuxer: /msg ubotu help08:58
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GNULinuxernalioth: ok, thanks08:58
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omerHello08:58
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BOB1234rob_p : i think its atheros or however  u  say it08:58
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Patrik88how do i stop my laptop from shutting down when i close the lid???08:59
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dashPatrik88: hmm. that's pretty strange08:59
fellyanyone know how to automount all smb shares in the workgroup?08:59
tankenmatenalioth: is there a channel where the S/N ratio is better?08:59
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omerI have lap-top. I want to install on him ubuntu. The problem is win 98 and that the only way to boot is from HD.08:59
Patrik88dash: well it doesnt shut of but i cant get it back if i dont retart it08:59
dashPatrik88: i know the tricky way to do it, i don't know if there's a nice config interface :)09:00
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naliothtankenmate: how many languages do you speak?09:00
Patrik88*restart09:00
omerWhat can I do with vmlinuz?09:00
dashomer: can't boot from CD? or network?09:00
tankenmatenalioth: natural or programming? :)09:00
Patrik88dash: how?09:00
rob_pBOB1234:  Do a, "lspci -v" and it should show up in the list.  Once you know what card it is, you can then google for the chipset for your card.  We have to know what it is in order to know what driver to pursue installing.09:00
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dgoodwin_Is it better to do a fresh install to upgrade to 5.10 or just use apt-get?09:00
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SupIAmMikebest way to upgrade is the have the breezy cds?09:00
naliothtankenmate: there are several ubuntu human language channels09:00
SupIAmMikeand do a synaptic upgrade?09:00
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naliothSupIAmMike: best way to upgrade is to us apt-get09:00
naliothubotu: tell SupIAmMike about upgrade2breezy09:01
tankenmatenalioth: english and japanese at a pinch.. :)09:01
omerThe CD room don't work. I now how to boot from HD with grub. But I can I do it with DOS?09:01
florai tried to upgrade via apt-get and it hosed my system09:01
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eracerbitheheh09:01
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floragnome-volume manager crashed halfway through now it won't launch X09:01
tankenmatenalioth: i think a C language channel might be better on my brain though :)09:01
naliothtankenmate: then #ubuntu-offtopic, #kubuntu, or #kubuntu-offtopic may offer less s/n09:01
dashomer: tricky. you may have to use loadlin or something. I don't know if the ubuntu install docs cover that, but the debian ones might09:01
SupIAmMikenalioth, i know but is it best to have the cd first so i can change my sources.list instead of downloading from the packages from their mirrors09:01
Patrik88dash: brb09:01
GNULinuxernalioth: dist-upgrade is holding back  libglibmm-2.4-dev libgtkmm-2.4-dev libphp-adodb libsigc++-2.0-dev ... what to do?09:02
tankenmatenalioth: thanks.. many kernel hackers ahng out on any of the above?09:02
ChadzaWhat's a good prog for taking a ss of a x session?09:02
dgoodwin_I guess I will have to back up all my data to dvd and then fresh install to 5.1009:02
dashomer: See if you can do a network boot with PXE or such09:02
omerI here about loadlin' but I can't downloading it. all I found to download is milo09:02
omerI have suse here09:02
jas_Is there anyway to mount an ISO or something like that without a program?09:02
naliothSupIAmMike: it is best to use the network and apt get. you change the sources.list on your machine yourself09:02
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zcat[1] jas_ mount -o loop09:02
naliothtankenmate: #ubuntu-devel09:02
dgoodwin_Will that cause broken dependancies?09:02
naliothGNULinuxer: have you used any non ubuntu repos?09:03
dgoodwin_Yes09:03
dgoodwin_alot09:03
SupIAmMikenalioth, why is it better to change the sources.list to breezy from the internet instead of just using the breezy cd along with sources.list09:03
naliothdgoodwin_: i missed your question. why will you have to fresh install?09:03
Daveydid the US server go down? :/09:03
SupIAmMikeare there new packages that are not on the cd? (other than in the universe)09:03
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omerI think the BIOS don't let network boot.09:03
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naliothSupIAmMike: the cd is more to download09:03
tankenmateCHadza: xwd :)09:03
omerI very old one09:03
dgoodwin_I want to upgrade to 5.1009:03
omer*it09:03
Chadzatankenmate: Thanks, lemme check it out.09:03
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SupIAmMikenalioth, but the cd is faster to download09:03
tankenmatenalioth: thanks!09:04
GNULinuxernalioth: i guess so ... i am purging them anyway as they don't have any deps09:04
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SupIAmMikenalioth, - i am using bit torrent so my speeds are going faster09:04
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tankenmateChadza: you'll need xwud to convert it to a useful format..09:04
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SupIAmMikeno way would i be going 367 from the mirrors right now09:04
Daveycan I use the EU or other mirrors to get the last 60-odd MB I need09:04
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dgoodwin_When will the pressed cd's ship?09:04
foxgamerI know that nalioth mentioned the due to high usage, updates might be a problem, but my system is actually registering updates, getting details of what updates are needed, but then when I hit upgrade, I get a message that the locations don't exist. Any ideas?09:04
tankenmateChadza: just run it from a script in the back ground and print the root window..09:04
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tankenmatewave09:04
naliothSupIAmMike: as you wish. i think you'll be upgrading after the install, anyway, so why not let apt-get do it in the first place?09:04
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naliothfoxgamer: massive server usage09:05
dashPatrik88: the main thing to look at, i think, is /etc/acpi/lid.sh09:05
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AlexBO88HELLO!How can I backup all my themes?Have I to backup the directory ~/.themes ?09:05
Sarkieanyone got PhpMyAdmin working??09:05
foxgamerso this would actually cause my problem? Cool. I'll wait for a few hours ;)09:05
dashPatrik88: the standard ubuntu one just locks the screensaver, i think09:05
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naliothSupIAmMike: change your sources.list as in the upgrade guide and then put your cd in and type "apt-cdrom" and follow the prompts09:05
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BOB1234rob_p It says atheros next to the d-link device09:06
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saik0ubotu: tell Sarkie about ask09:06
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dandeliondash: it switches to a blank VT and locks the screen09:06
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Sarkieok09:06
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fellywhere did the webcollage screensaver go?09:06
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rob_pBOB1234:  Is it possibly a AR5004 design?  Is AR5004 listed in the output?09:06
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SarkieI have phpMyAdmin installed, i have changed blowfish password, yet it still asks for it09:06
ChadzaHow do I list processes in order to kill one?09:06
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SeverianChadza,   try   ps aux09:07
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GNULinuxernalioth: why is the upgrade removing dbus-1, etc?09:07
henrysonI get lots of "could not download all repository indexes since last install, anybody else having this problem?09:07
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SarkieChadza, ps x09:07
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BOB1234rob_p : AR5212 I see there09:07
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foxgamerhenryson: I am. It's server load rate - very busy at the mo. Just need to be patient09:07
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SeverianChadza,   usually, I know I want the postfix program, so I do something like     ps aux | grep postfix09:08
rob_pBOB1234:  Ah, ok.  Let's see if Ubuntu loaded a driver for it.  Does iwconfig recognize your wireless card?09:08
bam_anyone know where I can find a short tutorial on installing kde09:08
nicholaspaulhi everyone.. i want to get to Hoary 5.10 but i'm want to know if it supports airport extreme - anyone know?09:08
sexcopter8000mhi there, are there any sample soucres.list files for things like universe and multiverse etc that i can copy from? i'm not on breezy09:09
ChadzaSeverian: Thanks for the pointer.09:09
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crimsun!repos09:09
ubotufrom memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)09:09
henrysonfoxgamer: thx for the answer. I was sure it was my own fiddling around that screwed up the whole thing...09:09
naliothGNULinuxer: it is unnecessary?09:09
sexcopter8000mfor that matter, are tehre backport repositories?09:09
ChadzaSarkie, Severian : thanks09:09
nicholaspaulbam- you could try searching for HOWTO's in the forum. otherwise, it should be as easy as using synaptic09:09
naliothsexcopter8000m: not yet09:09
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GNULinuxernalioth: ok, we have libdbus now :)09:09
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l0z3rsexcopter8000m: go to ubuntuguide.org it has one09:09
bam_k09:09
nicholaspaulhi nalioth09:09
ChadzaAnyone reccomend a gui file manager aside from konqueror or nautilus?09:09
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naliothnicholaspaul: howdy09:09
seanismhello09:10
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foxgamerhenryson: yeah. fiddling will do that too :) hopefully you still are using the same repo's09:10
naliothl0z3r: please dont advise that09:10
l0z3rjust click on "Add extra repositories"09:10
l0z3rwhy not?09:10
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BOB1234rob_p: iwconfig didnt do anything09:10
nicholaspaulnalioth: do yoknow where i can find if my airport extreme is supported under 5.10 ?09:10
naliothsexcopter8000m: stay away from the ubuntuguide. it is REALLY out of sync with breezy09:10
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naliothnicholaspaul: it is not09:10
LoevborgChadza, krusader (albeit dependant on kde) is quite nice!09:10
Echelon-Him stuck with no fonts because the upgrade process has gone wrong.09:10
seanismus.archive.ubuntu.com , is that down09:10
l0z3rI thought he said he wasn't on brezy09:10
olicathi all. does anyone know much about inkscape? i'm trying to draw a box with 1 rounded corner, and the rest normal09:10
nicholaspauldoh :) nalioth; thanks! how is it in 5.04?09:10
Echelon-Hand can't update now >_<09:10
naliothnicholaspaul: APX is a broadcom chipset, and broadcom hasnt released any drivers to OSS09:10
crimsunseanism: topic.09:10
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crimsunseanism: please use a mirror: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive09:11
seanismOo09:11
nicholaspaulnalioth: for some reason i thot that had been resolved. So i'm still hooped?09:11
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seanismty crimsun09:11
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naliothnicholaspaul: either use a cat6 cable or a supported wifi usb dongle09:11
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andociao09:11
aukheya oak__09:11
ivarwoo..the breezy upgrade I started 5.5 hours ago just finished downloading the packages from the repository09:12
nicholaspaulnalioth: i can share from my i386 ubuntu??09:12
andoqualcuno mi potrebbe dare una mano?09:12
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henrysonfoxgamer: some works, so i hope so... i'll check if it works tomorrow, otherwise they're readily availible on the net...09:12
naliothnicholaspaul: yes you can09:12
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naliothnicholaspaul: as long as your x86 box sees internet09:12
larsrohdinIf I want to mount a fat-partition in fstab, what should i write to give full access to it? I know the rest...09:12
ando da poco che utilizzo linux09:12
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nicholaspaulnalioth: cool... from there should kubuntu work ? I was thinking it was a distro issue..09:12
rob_pBOB1234:  Yeah.  I thought that would be the case.  Your card appears to be of the Broadcom family.  Unfortunately that has very limited support on Linux.  I suspect because of the manufacturer being closed with their hardware info.  Makes it tough to write drivers for things without having to reverse engineer them.09:12
andochi mi sa dire come installare dei codec audio e video09:12
naliothando: italiano?09:12
ando?09:12
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andosi italino09:12
nalioth!ita09:13
ubotuhmm... ita is italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)09:13
concept10the channel is wild today.09:13
BOB1234rob_p so am I t3h screwdzores?09:13
nicholaspaulcrazy!!09:13
larsrohdinconcept10, word =D09:13
tucozI am having font issues with emacs. I can not figure out how to get it working. Only the one I set in .Xdefault is working. The others show up as boxes.09:13
naliothnicholaspaul: (x)(k)ubuntu are the same critter09:13
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nicholaspaulnalioth: just a different desktop, right?09:13
tristanmikenalioth, you forgot (ed)09:13
naliothnicholaspaul: correct09:13
tristanmike:09:13
concept10nalioth has his hands full :)09:13
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martinThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins09:13
rob_pBOB1234:  Well, I'd do some googling and see if maybe ndiswrapper can be used.09:13
tankenmatenalioth: hmmm on kernel hackers about.. i have one last avenue to become a ubuntu convert.. have you ever done a debian -> ubuntu cross dist upgrade?09:13
naliothtristanmike: edu is gnome based iirc09:13
nicholaspaulnalioth:gotcha. I have all three on this i386 and they work fine. Thats good to know.09:14
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tankenmatenalioth: s/on/no/09:14
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martinWhat's the best support channel?09:14
nicholaspaulnalioth: where do i go to 'share' ?09:14
naliothtankenmate: have you asked that in #ubuntu-devel?09:14
BOB1234But WTF!!! the network admin detected my wireless only thing is it keeps freaking LOCKING UP when I try to edit the properties09:14
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LoevborgAnyone know an ETA for a breezy-extras repository?09:14
tristanmikenalioth, so xubuntu is xkubuntu too?09:14
Chadzatankenmate: Can you explain a bit more on xwd and xwud?09:14
naliothnicholaspaul: you'll need a dhcp server09:14
rob_pBOB1234:  I suspect that it's locking up because it can't load a driver for it.09:14
tankenmatenalioth: they seem far more concerned about making a mirror  topo map :)09:14
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naliothtristanmike: xubuntu is xfce4 + ubuntu09:15
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sorush20why can't I send privet messages09:15
tristanmikenalioth, ok, I understood that, but that means it's not gnome?09:15
nicholaspaultristanmike. you can EVEN install all three on one machine, and choose which desktop you need :) s'nice!09:15
naliothsorush20: b/c you aren't registered/identified09:15
jas_Is there and programs to emulate a cd drive or a dvd drive kinda like Daemon Tools for Linux?09:15
BOB1234so I guess im never going to get to use linux09:15
naliothtristanmike: it is NOT gnome, it's XFCE409:15
saik0jas_ you can mount an ISO09:15
ivarjas_, you can mount a file..09:15
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jas_I tried it..09:16
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tristanmikenalioth, lol, ok, I see you're point now, sorry to be so dumb :P09:16
jas_I was told mount -o loop and it just brought me to all this stuff I couldn't understand09:16
sorush20does any one here know of a univeristy in UK that uses open source software.. or not?09:16
Rubinany suggestion on an alternate mirror for upgrading?09:16
rob_pBOB1234:  You're better off editing your /etc/network/interfaces file and disabling your wireless configuration until you can figure out the driver issue.  That will probably keep network-admin from locking up.09:16
GreatBritontristanmike: the make failed09:16
naliothRubin: all mirrors are swamped atm09:16
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nicholaspaulnalioth: thx for your help.09:17
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naliothnicholaspaul: np, join ##apple next time09:17
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tristanmikeGreatBriton, did you install gcc-3.4?09:17
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jas_saik0 How do I mount an ISO?09:17
humbolthow can I find the fastest mirror from my location? does netselect work with ubuntu, or will it configure debian mirrors as mentioned in the package description?09:17
GreatBritontristanmike: yeah, i think so09:17
Blippedoes't nautilus have a script for mounting isos?09:18
Rubini cant even get the mirrors wiki to load09:18
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Rubinnext version needs bt based apt-get :)09:18
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nicholaspaulnalioth: ok, ##apple it is :)09:18
nicholaspaullater!!09:18
jas_ivar How do you mount a file?09:18
tristanmikeGreatBriton, there is a not about that at the very bottom of the page, hmm, not too sure, someone else may have done it09:18
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[DV] -breezyOnce I run apt-get upgrade on my 2 weeks old breezy install, I guess I'll be up2date with the current release?09:18
saik0jas_: lol...mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /wherver/you/want09:18
tristanmikenot = note09:18
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GreatBritonoh, i'll go look09:19
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ivarjas_, saik0 's gotcha covered :)09:19
nalioth[DV] -breezy: yes09:19
jas_saik0 Thanks09:19
duncan_nz1#gnomemeeting09:19
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duncan_nz1oops09:19
FliesLikeABrickI'm having a problem getting passive ftp to work with vsftpd.  I have ports 50000-50100 opened for passive connections, and vsftpd knows those ports are opened.  passive is enabled, and my clients are trying to connect as passive but fail.  I had ftp working with proftpd but needed vsftpd for other reasons.09:19
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bam_searched for install kde, in howto, no find, anyone09:19
duncan_nz1anyone here use gnome meeting?09:19
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duncan_nz1kde - yeah I couldn't find it either!09:20
topylibam_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:20
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bam_ok09:20
GreatBritontristanmike: /j #lugradio09:20
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something_elsethis is pissing me off09:20
lampshadehi peeps09:20
davrodoes the kbuntu desktop install as seperate wm or over gnome ?09:20
JairunCalothOk, doing a dist-upgrade on my box09:20
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lampshadehow are the first 24 hrs of the official breezy going?09:21
linuxamoeba21hey all... how do i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 now that its out09:21
something_elsedoes automount work for large external usb hddisks on 5.1009:21
Howdy125duncan_nzl .. is it locking up your computer ?09:21
topylidavro: you can choose your desktop when you log in09:21
duncan_nz1linuxamoeba, put the cd in and see what happens09:21
naliothubotu: tell linuxamoeba21 about upgrade2breezy'09:21
something_elseit worked for 5.0409:21
bam_topyli, this will allow me to go back and forth from gnome to kde right?09:21
something_elsewhy not 5.1009:21
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naliothubotu: tell linuxamoeba21 about upgrade2breezy09:21
topylibam_: yes09:21
duncan_nz1howdy - gnomemeeting? no.09:21
K-Richso does the usual apt-get dist-upgrade work to move to breezy? or is that buggy this time around as well ?09:21
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linuxamoeba21rockin'. is it working okay and all09:22
something_elsedoes automount work for large external usb hddisks on 5.1009:22
naliothbam_: yes, and you can install xubuntu-desktop if you want an xfce4 desktop09:22
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something_elseit worked for 5.0409:22
duncan_nz1I upgraded just by putting in the cd under 5.04 and following the instructions.09:22
something_elsewhy not 5.1009:22
naliothK-Rich: it works fine09:22
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bam_cool09:22
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lampshadeOut of pure curiosity, anyone running ubuntu with something like Enlightenment?09:22
topyliK-Rich: i don't know when it was buggy, but has worked well for years on debian and now on ubuntu09:22
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something_elseI did a clean install, mine needed one :|09:22
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jfarrellhey all can anyone point me to a link about upgrading from hoary to badger??09:22
K-Richtopyli: from warty to hoary was buggy09:22
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something_elsebut why the f' doesnt large external usb hdd automount09:23
topyliK-Rich: i never noticed :)09:23
fx^I have some problems with my NVidia Geforce 2 MX, I have tried most everything the guides says but can't get any GL stuff to work09:23
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rob_pBOB1234:  I'm certainly not suggesting that you give up!  Chances are, you might get at least some basic functionality from your card by looking into alternatives such as ndiswrapper or some other open source driver alternative for it.  Look into ndiswrapper and madwifi http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ and hopefully your card can be made to work... somewhat.  Good luck!09:23
something_elsepeople doest ati new drivers work?09:23
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lampshadeubotu: tell jfarrell about upgrade2breey09:23
lampshadeubotu: tell jfarrell about upgrade2breezy09:23
something_elsearrggghh09:23
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jfarrellthank you09:24
nderjmAre there issues with new ATI drivers?09:24
jas_saik0 I tried that and it didn't work09:24
lampshadesomething_else:  I have heard that the new ATI drivers are better09:24
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slonchohi guys. i try to install 5.10 in a VirtualPC. The installer fails with kernel panic >Kernel panic - not syncing. Any ideas? I did not find anything on google and the lists09:24
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topylilampshade: i used to run E16 for years and loved it, on debian and mandrake. are you talking about that or E17?09:24
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lampshadethan the old ones, but I personally have not tried09:24
something_elselampshade, Im sure they are, but do they install on breezy?09:24
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dreameenwhy is the download link for the new ubuntu not working?09:24
something_elseI mean large usb external hdd doesnt automount on breezy09:24
linuxamoeba21ati for me = 0.7 fps in gl screensavers09:24
crimsundreameen: /topic09:24
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naliothdreameen: millions of people are d/l?09:24
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saik0jas_: is it an ISO?09:25
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something_elsethese millions are late, I got brilliant speeds last night09:25
jas_saik0 Yes09:25
lampshadetopyli:  mmm any really.  I was just curious.  I tend to not see a lot of people that aren't running something like gentoo running E.  Is E17 in the repos for breezy?  I doubt it would be but?09:25
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something_elseIm gonna kill someone09:25
dandelion500KB/s right now from the free.fr mirror09:25
dreameenthe main repos are not working either09:25
something_elsewhere can I get mono on breezy?09:25
miksuubuntu had some problems with apt-get upgrade with the fi-archive.ubuntu.com server. relevant?09:25
saik0jas_:  were you in the same directory?09:25
crimsundreameen: read. the. topic.09:25
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naliothmiksu: see /topic09:26
naliothmiksu: millions of people are upgrading atm09:26
Laforge38Anyone know where to get the bcmwl5a.inf and .sys file?09:26
topylilampshade: it's not in the standard ubuntu repositories. you'll have to do some more work. E16 is there of course09:26
something_elsenalioth, you are dead09:26
nderjmI'm getting a weird screen wrapping problem on an Omnibook 900.  The to of the screen wraps to the bottom of the monitor09:26
jas_saik0 Do you mean was I trying to install to the same directory?09:26
dreameenthe best thing would be if the new release was available through bittorent network09:26
jas_saik0 or rather was I trying to mount it in the same directory09:26
crimsundreameen: it is.09:26
linuxamoeba21where's the conf file for synaptic repos?09:26
dreameencrimsun, link?09:27
crimsundreameen: did you read the topic at all?09:27
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naliothdreameen: it is available as a torrent09:27
humboltWhere can I find a list of ubuntu mirrors that mirror the actual packages not just the release images?09:27
saik0jas_: when you tred to mount it, was the image in the same directory ther terminal was in?09:27
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lampshadetopyli:  Oh, I wasn't even planning on doing it right now.  Was just curious.09:27
jas_saik0 Yes09:27
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crimsunhumbolt: read the topic.09:27
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foxgamerI'm in and installing! yay!09:28
saik0jas_: I'm afraid I dont know why it would'nt work then. Sorry.09:28
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JairunCaloththis is going to take a while....09:28
something_elsewhy does usplash look so fuzzy?09:28
jas_crimsun You helped me last night do you think you could help me?09:28
something_elsefuzzy is wrong word09:28
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something_elseblurry09:28
pestilencedoes a "0" in the "completed" column of http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ mean that nobody is seeding?09:28
Seveassomething_else, that's called dithering :)09:28
zukerohey09:28
lampshadewere there any other nix or bsd distros included by Google in their summer of code contest?  This interests me.  I know there were other open source projects like Gaim, but were there other distros?09:28
something_elsewell09:29
topylilampshade: E17 seems to me a bit... uhh, ridiciously overdone and will never be ready. E16 was one of the best UIs ever, but gnome has gotten so good i just had to switch :)09:29
crimsunjas_: with?09:29
miksuupgrade download speec currently 30 kbs09:29
something_elsesurely it could look nicer09:29
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pestilencei'm getting 0B/s on the breezy dvd-i386 torrent09:29
zukerowhere can i tell ubuntu to launch something else instead of gdm ?09:29
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WildZeckhi all09:29
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vengefulpestilence, slow down..save some for other people09:29
jas_crimsun I am trying to mount this .iso and for some reason it won't mount correctly09:29
martinwhat's the best way to get totem playing mpg/avi/asf/wma...09:29
Howdy125dreameen http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent09:29
pestilencevengeful, i'll try.09:29
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something_elseI really wouldnt be bothered, but just external usb hdd doesnt automount when it did on 5.0409:29
something_elsegrrrr09:29
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slonchosomeone succeeded to install on VirtualPC?09:30
vengefulsuckers.....i installed a week ago and just kept patching hehe09:30
pestilencei've upped 4 gigs so far on this torrent, only downloaded 660 megs :-(09:30
padmawanmartin: apt-get install totem-xine09:30
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gigaclonwhats the package name for gtk 2.xx09:30
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something_elsedo an apt-cache search09:30
linuxamoeba21it's not clear in the BreezyUpgrade file on the wiki... should i change every instance of "hoary" in my repos to "breezy" ?09:30
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foxgamerpestilence: Bear with it. Quite a lot of people have started with really slow downloads then it rockets up :)09:31
saik0has anyone had good experices with pitfdll in breezy?09:31
something_elseseriously these default themes look ugly09:31
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pestilencefoxgamer, if nobody is seeding, it will never rocket up...09:31
something_elseI created a metacity theme once, which Ive never changed09:31
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Major_Stitchumm, sorry but does anybody know does Ubuntu support Ericsson hmd220 adsl modem, its ethernet and i'd like to buy it and would like to know if it'd work?09:31
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something_elseI should perhaps add it to gnome-look09:31
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ktogias_Hi, I downloaded the breezy installation x86 disk. I inserted it into my running hoary and synaptic was offered to update my system from it. I sayed yes and sat comfortably. But after a while synaptic died as it was updating some gnome packages... Any way I contnue through console... But should this happen?09:31
pestilencefoxgamer, besides, i thought this was the entire reason for using bittorrent09:31
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crimsunjas_: what syntax are you using?09:31
zukerowhere can i tell ubuntu to launch something else instead of gdm ?09:32
pestilence(the more downloaders=uploaders you have, the faster everyone gets it)09:32
zcat[1] hmm.. now I have the ISO's, it seems I have no blank CD's to burn them to.. time to go shopping :)09:32
jas_crimsun remember I am a younging Linux wise.  I don't exactly knows what syntax means.09:32
Ti_Uhldoes anyone know why vlc uses old GTK widgets in breezy ? because the interface looks damn ugly like that :)09:32
crimsunjas_: what did you type in?09:32
linuxamoeba21it's not clear in the BreezyUpgrade file on the wiki... should i change every instance of "hoary" in my repos to "breezy" ?09:32
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naliothlinuxamoeba21: in your sources.list, yes breezy for hoary09:32
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linuxamoeba21thanks09:33
crimsunTi_Uhl: I reverted it because wxwidgets2.6 has broken UTF-8 parsing, which means you couldn't/can't load any files from the filesystem using the playlist interface.09:33
foxgamerpestilence: I would help if I could :(09:33
hamiltoni'm downloading the amd64 dvd through bittorrent and i'm stuck at 103 MB09:33
ivarfrom the ubuntu wiki - It is recommended that you have the "ubuntu-desktop" metapackage installed..  but when I try to install it I get a huge list of unmet dependencies09:33
Ti_Uhlcrimsun : but it worked just fine in hoary ?09:33
pestilenceit doesn't seem the dvd torrents are very popular right now.09:33
jas_crimsun oh 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /wherever/you/want' that was the command I was given09:33
Ti_Uhlcrimsun : anyway np i'll just wait untill it's fixed then :)09:33
naliothivar: it doesnt matter, if you can use the console. do you have any non official repos in your sources.list?09:33
andredFirefox doesn't remember its window position between launches with Breezy. I'm pretty sure it did that with Hoary. Anyone know if that's a known bug?09:33
zcat[1] ivar: Yeah, that's all it is.. A huge list of dependencies so that all the usual desktop stuff gets installed09:34
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crimsunTi_Uhl: hoary has wxwidgets2.5.3, not wxwidgets2.6.1.109:34
hamiltoni think the dvd links are missing from one of the download pages09:34
ivarnalioth, nope, i nuked everything nonubuntu for the upgrade..09:34
Ti_Uhland could it be that the http repository's are pretty busy or something ? because they are very slow here09:34
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topylizukero: you mean another login manager? you can install kdm or xdm for example, and choose one by doing "update-alternatives x-session-manager"09:34
crimsunTi_Uhl: we're not "fixing" it in Breezy. We'll look at other options for Dapper.09:34
ivarzcat[1] , the prob is that the list of dependancies isn't met (from what I can tell)09:34
crimsunTi_Uhl: and read the topic.09:34
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K-Richi'm gonna wait a day or 2 before i upgrade... too slow now09:35
naliothivar: but if you've used them in the past, the pkgs are still being used on your system09:35
Ti_Uhlhehe K thx :)09:35
zcat[1] ivar: hmm.. sort out your repos?09:35
crimsunK-Rich: use a mirror09:35
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K-Richcan't even connect to download the iso09:35
Ti_Uhlguess a lot of users are doing the same as i am :)09:35
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jas_crimsun 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /wherever/you/want' that was the command I was given.09:35
miksuis it really true that an upgraded 5.10 preview IS COMPLETELY 5.10 final09:36
K-Richcrimsun: tried both US mirrors09:36
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something_elseyes09:36
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topylimiksu: yes09:36
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naliothmiksu: if you watch your gnome desktop and upgrade when prompted, you will stay up to date09:36
crimsunK-Rich: the world is a lot larger than just the USA.09:36
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ivarnalioth, true.. i 'm running  `apt-get -f install' to correct these.. dpkg seems to be very busy as a result09:36
linuxamoeba21i changed every hoary to a breezy in sources.list, and now synaptic says it can't stat a bunch of sources09:36
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pderI TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE CRAP09:36
K-Richcrimsun: i know lol09:36
crimsunjas_: ''sudo modprobe loop'' first09:36
naliothivar: if at the least you can upgrade and install ubuntu-desktop on the other side of the upgrade09:37
Chousukepder: So's your English and manners. Now shoo.09:37
dario__dasd09:37
NoUsepder you should ask for your money back09:37
slonchoguys, pls help. the installer fails on VirtualPC with kernel errors. I did not find any hint on google or ubunto site/lists/wiki09:37
vengefulnalioth, kick pder in the head will you09:37
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zukerotopyli, i installed Entrance already, but i want it to be launched instead of gdm :)09:37
Major_Stitchumm, sorry but does anybody know does Ubuntu support Ericsson hmd220 adsl modem, its ethernet and i'd like to buy it and would like to know if it'd work?09:37
saik0Chousuke: Now go away before I taunt you a second time ;D09:37
crimsunMajor_Stitch: is it a direct ethernet interface to the pc?09:37
ompaulpder, have a really nice day, somewhere else09:37
topylizukero: so, use the alternatives system09:37
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pderUBUNTU ARE NOT RUN ON COMPUTER SYSTEM.  IT ARE FOR DUMMY HEAD.09:37
zukerook09:38
linuxamoeba21Major_Stitch, check the linux HCL at http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php09:38
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ivarnalioth, ok.. i've just gone through the upgrade.. (5 hrs of downloading at 15kbps) so now I'm trying to do the 'ubuntu-desktop'.09:38
K-Richi only find an rd dvd iso :/09:38
K-Richs/rd/rc09:38
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jas_crimsun So I 'sudo modprobe loop' then i 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /wherever/you/want'09:38
topylizukero: if you installed an ubuntu or debian package09:38
Major_Stitchthank you linuxamoeba09:38
linuxamoeba21i changed every hoary to a breezy in sources.list, and now synaptic says it can't stat a bunch of sources. any ideas?09:38
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crimsunK-Rich: the dvd image is still syncing09:38
pestilenceK-Rich, it's available on http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/09:38
pestilencecrimsun, does that mean the image on the tracker isn't a final one?09:38
crimsunjas_: yes09:38
something_elseI never get pissed off, today Im bloody pissed off09:38
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XsXsanyone know of any automotive forums? im looking for a dipstick that i need and cant find it anywere online or offline...09:38
saik0jas_: sudo mount09:38
naliothvengeful: one line of opinion is not a bad thing, but repetitive offtopic yakking is09:39
Chousukesaik0: Am I missing a joke? :P09:39
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crimsunpestilence: it's final09:39
syntaxerror64hi nalioth09:39
pestilencecrimsun, cool, thanks.09:39
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naliothkronus: get the ubuntu-5.10-install-XXX.iso09:39
miksulinuxamoeba : in consol 1. sudo apt-get upgrade 2. sudo dist-upgrade . i find it much more convenient09:39
vengefulwell as the old saying goes....opinions are like arseholes09:39
naliothsyntaxerror64: howdy ltns09:39
saik0Chouske: Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail refernece09:39
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Tylerhow come i cant do fglrxconfig? it says it wasnt found but i installed the ati drivers09:39
linuxamoeba21ok thanks09:39
miksusorry 2. sudo apt-get upgrade09:39
vengefulthis channel certainly is busy today ;-)09:39
Chousukesaik0: Ah. I should see those movies.09:39
jas_crimsun Still no dice.  Maybe I'm cursed....09:39
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syntaxerror64nalioth, i just downloaded and installed ubuntu 5.1009:39
saik0Chouske: everybody should, not just you09:40
naliothsyntaxerror64: how do you like it?09:40
crimsunjas_: strace it and post the output somewhere.09:40
martinapt-get update is hanging... Is this an availability issue?09:40
occycrimsun, breezy++09:40
DonToddanybody here use gnome-launch-box?09:40
crimsunjas_: what actual error message are you getting?09:40
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crimsunoccy: indeed09:40
hamiltonTyler: install fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx09:40
occycrimsun, no issues at all this time.09:40
linuxamoeba21miksu... isnt that two 'sudo apt-get upgrade' s?09:40
crimsunexcellent09:40
occycrimsun, not 1!09:40
Daveyman, 64% of the last 68MB done!09:40
syntaxerror64nalioth, i just got to the desktop about 2 mins ago, the setup was a lot nicer i thought09:40
crimsunmartin: see the topic09:40
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daanmartin: it will download, just be patient09:40
pderubuntu is pretty good09:40
miksuamoeba sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:40
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Daveyc'mon dover, c'mon dover, move you're bloomin' arse!09:40
Daveyerm, I mean, Ububtu :)09:41
jas_crimsun It goes to Usage: tells me how the commands work like mount -V then goes to explaining everything09:41
zukerotopyli, http://pastebin.com/39263009:41
DaveyUbuntu too :)09:41
jas_crimsun THen at the end tells me For many more details, say man 8 mount09:41
luis_hi..need some help...when i try to download an iso file of ubuntu the md5sum test always fail..any suggestion?09:41
davrovengeful: might it be excuses are like arseholes everyones got one.09:41
naliothluis_: get the torrent and fix it09:41
crimsunjas_: you have to sudo mount [...] , and the mount point must exist09:41
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glicki upgraded to breezy and im a little dispointed09:42
Chadzaglick: Why?09:42
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luis_i also tried the torrent nailoth09:42
jas_crimsun How do I create a mount point?09:42
crimsunjas_: /wherever/you/want is not literal09:42
topylizukero: see if you actually have a file called x-session-manager in /etc/alternatives09:42
jas_crimsun Yeah I know I changed that09:42
naliothluis_: the torrent should d/l a correct iso09:42
crimsunjas_: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/something09:42
syntaxerror64i was able to get it with bittorrent fast today09:42
glickChadza, firstly all my desktop and file icons have been replaced with "unknown" icons09:42
zukerotopyli, yes i do09:42
naliothluis_: or repair the iso you d/l to correct md5sums09:43
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Howdy125http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent09:43
glicki have both openoffice 1 and openoffice 2 on my system09:43
luis_how can i do that?09:43
solidgroovehigh traffic is not good, 40kib\s download09:43
jas_crimsun do I need to keep the /mnt/ part it or can I change that as well?09:43
pinucsetwhen ubuntu-guide will be available for breezy?09:43
naliothluis_: start your torrent file that matches the iso you've downloaded in the same dir as your iso09:43
jas_crimsun By the way I thank you for all your patience with this Linux new guy.09:43
crimsunjas_: you can change it, but it's recommended that you keep it under /mnt09:44
naliothjas_: we're all new with linux09:44
miksuthe download speed in upgrade just improved to 50kbs09:44
jas_crimsun Ahh thanks09:44
topylizukero: oh, it's because you have to use sudo. it's a system-wide command after all, sorry :)09:44
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luis_ok..i'll try that09:44
zukeronope does the same09:44
linuxamoeba21should my sources in sources.list still be set to hoary when i run apt-get dist-upgrade?09:44
Chadzaglick: Have you tried reapplying your desktop theme?  That's the only time something like that has happened to me.09:44
jas_crimsun Okay now i have made the dir09:44
topylizukero: hrmpf. so it does09:45
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miksuamoeba no replace hoary with breezy09:45
zukero...09:45
topylizukero: here too09:45
crimsunjas_: you don't need to pass -t iso9660, btw09:45
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glickok09:45
antixinstalling breezy.. I can't get out of the partitioner? it won't format the disks and no error msg..09:45
jas_crimsun so just make it 'mount -o loop filename.iso /mnt/something'09:45
glickChadza, ok that fixed that09:45
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stevencarsonbreezy has eaten my gui09:46
stevencarsonjust get a big terminal window now09:46
crimsunjas_: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mountpoint09:46
topylizukero: ok, this should work: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager"09:46
stevencarsonno idea what to do09:46
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linuxamoeba21miksu, for some reason, synaptic freaks out when i change the repos to breezy, but apt-get update is fine ...?09:46
jas_Which would be that mkdir -p /mnt/something like you had me create09:46
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jas_crimsun Which would be that mkdir -p /mnt/something like you had me create09:46
Chadzaglick: Anything else I can try to help you with?09:46
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miksuamoeba that's why i said it is more convenient..seems more reliable09:47
jas_crimsun the mount point I mean09:47
ericmoritzdo I have to burn a new cd to upgrade horay to breezy?09:47
zukerotopyli, There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager09:47
zukero(/usr/bin/gnome-session). Nothing to configure.09:47
crimsunjas_: yes09:47
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stjepanhello09:47
naliothubotu: tell zukero about upgrade2breezy09:47
jas_crimsun Okay thanks I'll give it a shot.09:47
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sandollargood God is every one updateing right now?09:47
shadeofgreycan somebody please paste a link to the 5.10 version of kubuntu thats the STABLE release?  all theones i see are for the release candidate09:47
zukeronalioth, i am on breezy09:47
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jas_crimsun It still is doing the same thing.09:48
naliothshadeofgrey: www.ubuntulinux.org/download09:48
stjepanI have got installed hoary, but I have got breezy CD. Can I upgrade my Hoary to Breezy with CD?09:48
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topylizukero: this means your other display manager has not registered into the alternatives system. you have installed it from unholy sources :)09:48
crimsunjas_: what iso?09:48
naliothzukero: then just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade09:48
glickalso i notice that my system is a little sluggiesh09:48
crispyHi, im trying to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 5.10, but i cant since im not root - and for some reason i havent got a password for it ^_^09:48
NoUsestjepan yeah if you insert the breezy CD while running Hoary it should prompt you to upgrade09:48
crimsunglick: how so?09:48
crimsuncrispy: does the included driver not work?09:48
stevencarsonno windows any more just a command line :-(09:48
something_elseanyone on hoary? can you give me an output of /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences,fdi09:49
glickcrimsun, likt the mouse just freezes sometimes on the screen09:49
naliothubotu: tell crispy about root09:49
crimsunglick: is DMA enabled?09:49
zukerotopyli, so is there a way to tell manually "entrance" instead of "gdm"09:49
stjepanNoUse: really? I can upgrade it via CD and without internet???09:49
glickcrimsun, how do i check that?09:49
NoUsestjepan I've never done it but I believe its possible09:49
crimsunglick: sudo hdparm -d /dev/yourharddrive09:49
lsuactiafnerall the mirros i open up dont have the .iso09:49
VR^stjepan: samo ubaci svjo Breezy CD i ono ce uraditi upgrade09:49
glickyeah dma is on09:49
crimsunlsuactiafner: did you see the topic?09:50
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crimsunglick: which X server?09:50
ericmoritz!upgrade2breezy09:50
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:50
topylizukero: you could look at gdm's init script in /etc/init.d/gdm and make a similar one for entice. then remove gdm09:50
glickcrimson i guess the one that comes with breezy09:50
stjepanVR^: wow, tnx09:50
DerLandihallo leute!09:50
zukerook09:50
VR^stjepan: no problem09:50
lsuactiafnercrimsun : yes, and ftp.is.co.za in south-africa where i'm from has it, but doesnt allow a download, am on a 5ks modem, even the bussiest servers will be ok for me09:50
stevencarsonhelp please - all my windows have gone - now just have a big terminal for a pc09:50
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jas_crimsun Did you get that?09:50
DerLandiich hab gerade mein ubunt Hoary 5.04 neu aufgesetzt! kann mir jeamd ne sources.list sagen geben what ever?09:50
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nalioth!de09:51
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe09:51
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crimsunjas_: yes, I'm just lagged09:51
Almindorany idea when new mono gets in?09:51
jas_crimsun Understandable.09:51
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crimsunAlmindor: it won't be in Breezy.09:51
Almindordang..09:51
crimsunBreezy is frozen09:51
linuxamoeba21is this a big deal (from apt-get update): "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release.gpg09:51
linuxamoeba21  Connection failed [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 09:51
linuxamoeba21"09:51
AlmindorI need to go to the next beta then :)09:51
VR^DerLandi: du willst Breezy installieren?09:51
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topylizukero: then of course you have to make a symbolic link from /etc/init.d/entice to /etc/rc2.d/entice09:51
glickill brb09:51
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naliothlinuxamoeba21: the servers are extremely hammered09:51
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crimsunthe topic has a list of mirrors.09:52
jas_crimsun I was a bit embarrassed to say it out in the masses...09:52
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linuxamoeba21poor guys09:52
naliothVR^: sprechen im #ubuntu-de, bitte09:52
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DerLandi@vr^ nein! ne sources.list fr mein neus ubuntu zum installieren neuer pakete! was muss ich tun um apt benutzen zu knnen09:52
stjepanmay I use Debian repository with ubuntu?09:52
VR^nalioth: lol sorry, i was just trying to help someone ^_^09:52
linuxamoeba21stjepan, dont try it!09:52
lsuactiafnercrimsun : all the mirrors ive been to dont have the cdimage.09:52
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solidgroovei ordered the cd's because mirrors are too slow, it might take longer though09:52
NoUsestjepan no09:52
casimirahh, so the masses are flooding the repositories?09:52
crimsunstjepan: you may, and you get to keep the pieces when it breaks.09:52
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stevencarsondoes anybody know how i can get my gui back?09:52
VR^DerLandi: du kannst in #ubuntu-de nachfragen09:53
linuxamoeba21stjepan, i actually gave up and reformatted when i tried that09:53
topylistjepan: you will break stuff09:53
stevencarsonall i have since breezy install is a command line09:53
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vengefulstartx09:53
vengefulxstart09:53
vengefulone of the two?09:53
naliothubotu tell stevencarson about fixres09:53
ivardoh, I thought after tweaking my repos, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade I'd be done.. but apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is another 140 packages !09:53
jas_startx09:53
crimsunjas_: please post strace output from it09:53
linuxamoeba21stevencarlson, were you using fglrx?09:53
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jas_crimsun How do I strace it?09:53
Maikeruubotu tell me about root09:53
stevencarsonubotu: thanks!09:53
ubotustevencarson: graag gedaan09:53
soulman__any idea how to activate the multiverse repositories in breezy badger? I see universe, though09:53
stjepanbut there are more packages for debian than for ubuntu :(09:53
Maikeruwtf09:53
Maikeruroot is disabled in breezy?09:54
topylistjepan: not true09:54
kghello, did any of you guys upgrade from debian unstable to hoary?09:54
vengefulyes, debians just happen to be 5 years old09:54
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topyliMaikeru: yes09:54
VR^Maikeru: use sudo09:54
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crimsun!tell Maikeru about root09:54
NoUseMaikeru root has been disabled in all Ubuntu releases09:54
MaikeruNever for me09:54
MaikeruI always su09:54
stjepantopyli: can u give me a numbers?09:54
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Maikeruonly for when I'm doing something that requires multi lines though09:54
Howdy125Root is enabled after this .. sudo passwd root09:54
kgI was wondering what problems I could possibly encounter, I'm in the middle of the upgrade right now ;)09:54
Maikeruoh, yeah, that09:54
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jas_crimsun How would I strace it exactly remember linux noob if you :P09:55
Tylergrr when r the ubuntu updates gonna work again?09:55
crimsunjas_: you'll need to strace -o somefile mount -o loop [...] 09:55
VR^Tyler: wait a couple months =)09:55
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naliothkg: sarge > breezy?09:55
crimsunjas_: probably easier if you sudo -s first09:55
crimsunTyler: they're not working?09:55
Tylernope its not downloading anything09:55
Tylerin synpatic i mean, they must be down09:55
vengefultakes awhile tyler09:55
Skidwhats the command to search for a string 'inside' a file, or files, within a current given directory?09:55
crimsunTyler: or did you not read the topic?09:55
vengefuli think they are just very busy?09:56
jas_crimsun Okay -o somefile is gonna be my output right where the results if you will goes right??09:56
lllmanulllkg, I don't think this would be a very good idea :)09:56
crimsunjas_: the first -o, yes09:56
naliothTyler: the servers are hammered atm09:56
VR^im glad i did my update last night!~09:56
topyliMaikeru: 17781 packages available for my system09:56
mcquaidhello, i want to compile something and make a deb out of it, there was a good guide in the forums (i believe the kde one) but with the forum restructuring i can't find it now09:56
VR^while everyone else was sleeping09:56
mcquaiddid they archive the old kde forum?09:56
Maikerutopyli, okay...?09:56
naliothubotu: tell mcquaid about checkinstall09:56
Tyleri hope its gonna download, i just reinstalled and i dont wanna forget stuff09:56
Belial-stevencarson: tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?09:56
stevencarsonubotu: that page is if you have low res?  i just have a terminal type screen no windows at all09:57
ubotustevencarson: I think you lost me on that one09:57
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WhyvasLThey, my loopback device seems to have died, I bring it up with ifconfig lo up, but i can't ping it and i can't use the localhost, when i bring up network tools, it seems like ipv6 is working but there's no entry for ipv4, does anyone know how i can reenable ip4 on the loopback ???09:57
topyliMaikeru: still looking for debian info09:57
linuxamoeba210% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com ...09:57
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mcquaidya i usually use checkinstall, but i wanted to go over the guide this user created to create  proper debs09:57
pderUBUNTU ARE NOT RUN ON COMPUTER SYSTEM09:57
crimsunlinuxamoeba21: yes. Read the topic. Again.09:57
mcquaidand this is a lib i want to install, not sure if i can do that with checkinstall09:57
antixrestarted and now I could get past the partitioner. one thing I did different was in the LVM config I chose Go back instead of Leave.. but could be anything...09:57
jas_crimsun Wow thats a pretty big file..09:57
icewtstevencarson, ubotu is a bot09:57
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VR^hahah09:58
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linuxamoeba21crimsun, i changed repos and did apt-get update09:58
crimsunjas_: yes, now please bzip2 it, and post it on the Web somewhere09:58
pelle_e hr ngon svenska hr inne jag behver hjlp09:58
linuxamoeba21just that slow?09:58
pderUBUNTU DO NOT SUPPORT PERSONAL COMPUTER SYSTEM09:58
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VR^linuxamoeba21: you just have to wait... a lot09:58
TiMiDopder: lower you're caps09:58
linuxamoeba21=(09:58
Howdy125ubotu: why is the sky blue09:58
ubotuHowdy125: what are you talking about?09:58
vengefulstevencarson, what does it say when you type startx09:58
stjepanis there more packages for ubuntu or for debian?09:58
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pelle_ingen svensk hr inne09:58
WildZeckcan we upgrade to 5.10 via apt-get dist upgrade ?09:58
Howdy125lol09:58
TiMiDostjepan: apt-cache search package09:58
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Bad_Magicif the repos werent down09:58
crimsunWildZeck: yes, but use a mirror, please.09:58
Bad_Magicyes09:58
mcquaidis there anywhere that they list the old kde forum?09:58
mcquaidfor hoary?09:58
crimsunBad_Magic: they're NOT down.09:58
crimsunread the topic.09:58
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nderjmAnyone having display problems that sound like this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1771909:59
jas_crimsun bzip? Umm remember linux nub.09:59
linuxamoeba21WildZeck, change your repos from hoary to breezy, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgraed09:59
WildZeckwhere is the list ? mirror for apt ?09:59
linuxamoeba21*upgrade09:59
stevencarson"xserver-xorg is broken and not fully installed" apparently09:59
Patrik88anyone good at ettercap??09:59
Bad_Magicdown, has the tar beaten out of it, same thing09:59
miksumy upgrade is running fine at 40 kbs .. no problems09:59
crimsunjas_: bzip2 nameOfStraceFile09:59
Davey94%!09:59
linuxamoeba21/etc/apt/sources.list09:59
TiMiDonderjm: let me look at the bug give me one second09:59
crimsunstevencarson: you need to finish downloading all the file09:59
crimsuns09:59
Dekkardservers are still waaaaaaaaay hammered09:59
Dekkardslashdotted even09:59
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jas_should it end up being bz2 as the extension?10:00
stevencarsonnot all the packages installed from my cd, said something bout gcalc file list empty10:00
crimsunBad_Magic: no, down != slow10:00
TiMiDonderjm: xorg bug10:00
TiMiDo?10:00
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jas_crimsun should it end up being bz2 as the extension?10:00
Davey95% :D10:00
Patrik88when i choose network interface i get this error: ERROR : 1, Operation not permitted10:00
Patrik88[ec_capture.c:capture_init:146] 10:00
Patrik88 pcap_open: socket: Operation not permitted10:00
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crimsunjas_: yes10:00
Bad_Magicslow to the point of not being usable = down10:00
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ginowhat was the name of ubuntu before 5.10 ?10:00
topyliMaikeru: can't find it promptly, but IIRC debian unstable has a bit over 16000 packages10:00
jas_crimsun Okay umm trying to think of where i could post it..10:00
DaveyBreezy Badger10:00
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crimsungino: Ubuntu.10:00
nderjmTiMiDo: know where I can find documentation on a work around?10:00
WhyvasLThey, my loopback device seems to have died, I bring it up with ifconfig lo up, but i can't ping it and i can't use the localhost, when i bring up network tools, it seems like ipv6 is working but there's no entry for ipv4, does anyone know how i can reenable ip4 on the loopback ???10:00
ginono i want the version10:00
Dekkardit was the hoary hedgehog10:00
crimsun5.0410:00
VR^gino: hoary hedgehog10:01
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crimsunreleases are biannual10:01
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TiMiDonderjm: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/10:01
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TiMiDoit's a good one10:01
topyliMaikeru: anyway, sometimes debian does have something not readily available for ubuntu. then i use a debian source repository and build a package from that source on my box locally10:01
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DaveyI am *way* too excited :)10:01
ginook hedgedog but which number ?10:01
Bad_Magici updated last night10:01
Bad_Magicits nice10:01
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crimsungino: 5.04, like I said.10:01
something_elsealready updates to breezy?10:01
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Davey98% :)10:01
Dekkard5.0410:01
vidzSo what are the best features in breezy?10:02
linuxamoeba21gino, Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.0410:02
robbiemornings10:02
casimirahh, mirror runs much faster10:02
TiMiDovidz: /topic #ubuntu10:02
something_elsed10:02
JemtGreetings. I was going to install 'w32codecs' but it has been removed from repositories. Why is that ? And where can I find it ?10:02
ginook 5.04   ok thanks u all10:02
casimirthanks10:02
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jas_crimsun could I send the file through here?10:02
crimsunsomething_else: they're only to reversion mozilla so it's higher than what's in hoary-updates10:02
Gobblais it safe to cancel a dist-upgrade and finish it later?10:02
tristanmike!tell Jemt about w32codecs10:02
Davey99% :)10:02
mcquaiddoes anyone know if you can install libs with checkinstall? i've used checkinstall many times but never for libs10:02
crimsunjas_: yes, you may dcc10:02
TiMiDo!tell Jemt about w32codecs10:02
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TvMhow can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/39265210:02
crimsunGobbla: yes, it'll resume10:02
stevencarsonhow do i install the rest of the packages if all i have is a command line?10:02
Gobblacrimsun: aight10:02
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something_elsehmm ok, but i have to let you know theres a problem with hal in breezy10:02
VR^Jemt is being flooded by the bot10:02
JemtTiMiDo: Some kind a bot function ?10:02
VR^hehehe10:02
naliothmcquaid: yes you can install anything you can compile with checkinstall10:03
Daveystevencarson, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:03
stevencarsonDavey: ta10:03
crimsunsomething_else: hoary-security, sorry10:03
ericmoritzis there mirror for the security site?10:03
vidzTiMiDo: I am using a CGI:IRC client through a firewall. It doesn't display the topic10:03
vidzGobbla: Is it still downloading files, or is it installing them?10:03
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TiMiDoTvM: did you mount the device?10:03
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ginois it possible to get xfce with ubuntu ?10:03
mcquaidk thx10:03
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.10:03
Daveystevencarson, probably need to use sudo though :)10:03
vengefulgino, yes10:03
crimsungino: xubuntu-desktop10:03
TiMiDogino: yes it is10:03
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vengefulvery easy infact10:03
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TiMiDohello EnsignRedshirt10:04
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mcquaidi want to try the kde voip app twinkle but it needs libs not in breezy10:04
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TvMTiMiDo its my cdrom ..with no cd or dvd inside...10:04
crimsunmcquaid: which libs?10:04
something_elsewhats the mono version in breezy?10:04
mohkohngino from memory sudo apt-get install xfce410:04
vidzgino: Look for xubuntu-desktop in synaptic10:04
jas_crimsun I sent them you seem to not be responding10:04
nderjmTiMido:What am I looking for in this document?10:04
TiMiDoTvM: do apt-cdrom10:04
glickyeah whenever i open a window or a program my mouse freezes for a second10:04
TiMiDonderjm: you tell me10:04
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EnsignRedshirtI'm getting ready to install a new hard drive and Ubuntu.  Is there any reason /boot should have its own partition?10:04
crimsunsomething_else: mono | 1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages10:04
TiMiDoglick: do you get any errors?10:04
Daveyhttp://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?format=plain&pid=5017 <-- I keep getting that from apt, any solutions?10:04
JemtTiMiDo: Thanks for all your help :)10:04
something_elsethank you crimsun10:04
TiMiDoJemt: np10:04
Jemt^^10:04
PepsI would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?10:05
nderjmTiMiDo: I dont see anything about xorg issues, but I might need glasses :/10:05
vidzEnsignRedshirt: Yes, for system stability.10:05
TiMiDohold up10:05
mcquaidcrimsun, ccrtp-1.3.4.tar.gz and commoncpp2-1.3.16.tar.gz (minimum version is 1.3.0)10:05
ginosudo su apt-get10:05
crimsunjas_: I haven't received a dcc send request from you?10:05
mcquaidcommoncpp should be fine i think, but ccrtp is 1.3.1 in breezy10:05
something_elsefinally crimsun, do you know how I can get an update to hal without resorting to cvs10:05
naliothgino: what was that about?10:05
TvMTiMiDo i have that error every 2 s... if i put a cd in drive error stops...10:05
nnonixAny known issues with Breezy/Totem and quicktime files such as those from apple.com/trailers? Firefox says it has the pluggin but totem throws errors and says it cannot play the file.10:05
EnsignRedshirtvidz: How does a separate partition help with "stability"?10:05
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jas_crimsun I Sent it twice actualy10:05
nomednnonix, totem-xine ?10:06
crimsunjas_: I have received nothing10:06
TiMiDonderjm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-19e51e4331625e264a28ed6c484b946c86882d1510:06
jas_crimsun Hmm thats odd10:06
nnonixnomed: yes10:06
vidzEnsignRedshirt: Ok, say a process goes bezerk and writes 10GB of log files. If you have /var on it's own partition, it doesn't fill up / and prevents things from getting nasty10:06
crimsunsomething_else: what needs to be updated in hal?10:06
nderjmTiMiDo: ATI Drive issues?10:06
linuxamoeba21nnonix, i've never had any luck with totem... kaffiene or mplayer?10:06
TiMiDonot sure,10:06
nomedi've had problem using xine based players10:06
barbabluesdoes anyone know if the breezy dvd is ready and where (or when) I can find it?10:06
nomedeven with xfmedia10:06
ginospeedtouch usb drivers ?10:06
crimsunmcquaid: install libcommoncpp2-1.3c2 and libcommoncpp2-1.3c210:06
jas_crimsun Any other ideas?10:06
TiMiDobarbablues: from the mirrors10:07
topylividz: yes, that would be valuable on a server10:07
crimsunmcquaid: they're both in universe10:07
linuxamoeba212%!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!1!!!1110:07
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barbabluescan't find it10:07
TiMiDohttp://tinyurl.com/74xlu barbablues10:07
stjepanwhich distro do you recommend for programmer and Linux expert? Slackware vs Ubuntu? I like apt, I do not like swaret, slapt-get, tgz10:07
phiqtionservers are getting HAMMERED :O10:07
vidzEnsignRedshirt: Also, /var gets written to very often. What happens if that filesystem gets corrupt and it is the same partition as /home and /boot? Well I guess everything is screwed10:07
mcquaidcrimsun, uh you just said the same file twice?10:07
linuxamoeba21stjepan, ubuntu is a great mix10:07
naliothstjepan: then use ubuntu10:07
TiMiDothat's the link to get the breeze release barbablues10:07
vidztopyli: No, that is valuable on a desktop AND a server10:07
crimsunmcquaid: libccrtp1-1.3c210:07
something_elseI dont know about what needs to be updated, however when running gnome-volume-manager in terminal it states my external usb hdd cannot be mounted, when oddly it is possible in hoary, and I can manually mount10:07
stjepanubuntu is for beginners and fools10:07
crimsunmcquaid: breezy has 1.3.1-3ubuntu4 >> 1.3.010:08
topylistjepan: looks like you're recommending ubuntu or debian to yourself :)10:08
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something_elseIm assuming anything new might fix this10:08
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jas_crimsun Any other ideas?10:08
phiqtionstjepan: like you :D10:08
PepsI would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?10:08
barbabluesTiMiDo, I can only find the CDs, not the DVD10:08
crimsunjas_: post it on a Web site10:08
zcat[1] stjepan: no, ubuntu is for ppl that want stuff to work and don't want to mess around for days to get things working10:08
something_elsestjepan, I went from a year in slackware to ubuntu, does this make me stupid?10:08
nomedsomething_else, i feel something changed in breezy's hal10:08
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vidzunlike the genoo crowd10:08
TiMiDothere's no dvds out yet barbablues10:08
mcquaidcrimsun, yes i see that but it needs ccrtp-1.3.4'10:08
something_elselike what nomed?10:08
topylistjepan: no, many experienced debian users have moved to ubuntu10:08
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ginoit seems to have some debian packages in ubuntu ?10:08
EnsignRedshirtvidz: I see. I had planned on making /home a separate partition.  Perhaps, /home, /var, and / (i.e. everything else) is reasonable?10:08
TiMiDogino: yes10:08
something_elseare any of you still in hoary/10:09
linuxamoeba21soemthing_else, yeah10:09
crimsunmcquaid: can you hold off til dapper opens?10:09
TiMiDoubuntu is based on debian, so almost everything is from debian gino10:09
naliothgino: ubuntu is based on debian source10:09
something_elseamoeba could you print something for me10:09
linuxamoeba21sure10:09
barbabluesok, anyone knows when the DVDs will be released?10:09
mcquaidi guess sure, but i didn't think they'd backport libs10:09
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crimsunmcquaid: alternately you can uupdate to create your own deb, but you need to be familiar with Debian packaging10:09
vidzEnsignRedshirt: /boot 50-100MB partition, /, /home, /, /usr, ,/tmp are the best for system security and stability10:09
something_elseok can u gimme output of /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi10:09
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glickTidus, no i dont get any errors10:10
PepsI would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?10:10
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topyligino: all ubuntu packages are built on ubuntu. ubuntu does come from the debian foundations though10:10
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nomedsomething_else, i still need to figure out what exactly but for ex i can't use old hoary scripts i had in /etc/hal/device.d10:10
ginoas make make menuconfig10:10
vidzEnsignRedshirt: / /var /usr /tmp /boot /home10:10
mcquaidcrimsun, well once dapper opens, can i use jdong's script to backport it? not sure if that works with libs10:10
linuxamoeba21doesnt exist...?10:10
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omerAnyone here had idea how to install ubuntu when you have win 98, and the only boot device is hardidsk?10:10
something_elseit doesnt exist?10:10
something_elsehmm interesting10:10
TiMiDoomer: from a floppy10:10
crimsunmcquaid: I don't know, I avoid backports generally.10:10
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dayslepergreat stuff guys .. congratz with the release - i've downloaded it from bitorrent and looking forward to upgrading ... :)10:11
mcquaidcrimsun, hmm, so what were you suggesting about dapper then?10:11
something_elsethank you amoeba10:11
omerThere is option to install rom fluppy?10:11
syntaxerror64daysleper, i just installed and so far so good :)10:11
crimsunmcquaid: when it opens, we'll push it in10:11
barbabluesomer, if you have a cd but can't boot from it try SBM (smart boot manager)10:11
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mcquaidto breezy? cool10:11
crimsunmcquaid: no, to dapper10:11
ginodo u see speedtouch usb packages ?10:11
TvMhow can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/39265210:12
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EnsignRedshirtvidz: Thanks.  By the way, what is a reasonable size for /tmp?10:12
topyliomer: i really don't know any other way except the cd10:12
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mcquaidoh, well i thought i'd have to backport it then, or i'd be mixing sources10:12
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P8ntKidCan someone help me? I have no sound in any of the videos i watch :(10:12
barbabluesSBM it's a bootmanager on a floppy, you can boot a cd even if your BIOS can't10:12
omerI have laptoop withnothing exept harddisk.10:12
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BiSK-8hello10:12
vidzEnsignRedshirt: I set 1-2GB normally10:12
barbabluesif u have 110:12
topyliomer: i would install debian woody base install from floppies and upgrade to ubuntu breezy10:12
omerSo there is no chise except buy CD10:12
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omerThat can work? upgrade form debian to buntu?10:13
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crimsunP8ntKid: which player are you using?10:13
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omer*ubuntu10:13
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PolisI wanted to know, does breezy support SATA discs?10:13
topyliomer: from an old debian i think it would work10:13
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crimsunTvM: check the media and the physical hardware10:13
crimsunPolis: yes10:13
naliothmcquaid: you can build from source easily and not cause any trouble with your ubuntu (it's non ubuntu binaries that cause fits)10:13
naliothPolis: yes it does10:13
PepsI would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?10:13
topyliomer: because just about every package would be upgraded10:13
BiSK-8i just installed breezy, but i have a few probs: 1) apt-get wont work..... seems that the sources.list is broken.... 2)totem wont work 3) the pppoe dosent start a boot time so i ust configure it every time. what can i do?10:13
Polisthx10:13
DaveyPeps, try #kubuntu10:13
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mcphailmcquaid, checkinstall is a useful tool10:14
omeryou know from which version?10:14
mcquaidok well i'll wait for dapper or i'll give checkinstall a shot10:14
PepsDavey: very slow over there10:14
TiMiDodapper it's gonna take a bit10:14
virguleI want to change sources.list server -- The us.archive.ubuntu.com is way too slow for me -- How do I do that?10:14
mcquaiddon't know why i'm weary of using it with libs but nothing else i have installed uses that anywyas10:14
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TiMiDovirgule: apt-setup10:14
DaveyPeps, better than the non-answer here, no? :)10:14
EnsignRedshirtvidz: Thanks.  I take a look at my current system for guesstimating sizes for the rest of the partitions.  Ciao.10:14
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nomedvirgule, today for sure :)10:14
EnsignRedshirt*i'll10:14
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Loevborgvirgule, there's a menu item "repositories"10:15
BiSK-8can any1 help me plz?10:15
TvMcrimsun its an HP dv4165 with a liightscribe driver...i dont have any media inside..10:15
Loevborgvirgule, ... in synpatic that is10:15
TiMiDoBiSK-8: try asking10:15
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crimsunTvM: so what's the issue?10:15
linuxamoeba21virgule, also, it's at /etc/apt/sources.list10:15
enycbisk: maybe ;-)10:15
P8ntKidcrimsun: In all of them. I have tried mplayer, xine, nautron, and totem. They all play the video. But just no sound.10:15
germanhi!10:15
TiMiDohi german10:15
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BiSK-8i just installed breezy, but i have a few probs: 1) apt-get wont work..... seems that the sources.list is broken.... 2)totem wont work 3) the pppoe dosent start a boot time so i ust configure it every time. what can i do?10:15
TvMcrimsun i get that msg every 2 s10:16
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naliothBiSK-8: see /topic10:16
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germanwhat sgud I install to play mp3?10:16
enycp8nt:  what   audio/video codec used?10:16
naliothubotu: tell german about mp310:16
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TiMiDo!tell german about mp310:16
crimsunTvM: where do you get it?10:16
TiMiDobla10:16
TvMi cant go to any terminal...only can use kde10:16
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TvMcrimsun in store10:16
i3dmasterwhich file defines HISTFILESIZE and HISTSIZE?10:16
MrMaDSeNhowcome I cant install ubuntu 5.04 or 5.10 on this pc... it stalls during config af apt source10:16
TiMiDoTvM: can u do ctrl alt f1?10:16
crimsunTvM: ..."in store"?10:16
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virguleapt-setup is aking for a Mirror hostname -- hmmmm?!?!?10:17
P8ntKidcrimsun: Well, i just closed XMMS and now i have sound...10:17
crimsunvirgule: read the topic10:17
enycmrma:   ?network problem?10:17
BiSK-8nalioth: whyy read the topic?10:17
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Daveyhas anyone managed to get Xinerama working for ATI working with Breezy? is it possible with the new drivers?10:17
mcphailMrMaDSeN: it is just because the severs are being battered10:17
TvMyes i can but i cant use it...because the msg is always appearing10:17
crimsunP8ntKid: by default XMMS hogs the sound device.10:17
naliothBiSK-8: it answers your apt-get question10:17
germannalioth, TiMiDo , thanks!!!10:17
crimsunP8ntKid: you need to set the output to ALSA10:17
MrMaDSeNmcphail, sure ?10:17
infernallDavey, Im on xinerama with ATI right now :)10:17
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infernallDual 19's10:17
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mcphailMrMaDSeN: yes10:17
Daveyinfernall, really?! can I get your config?10:17
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Daveyinfernall, same here :D10:17
virgulecrimson: thanks.. I noticed. I just want to change us.archive.ubuntu.com to a server near me10:17
Daveywhat graphics card?10:17
MrMaDSeNshould i try without ethernet cable in?10:17
syborque tal10:17
Daveyinfernall, I can only get the "Big Desktop" to work in Breezy10:18
casimirare there any known hangups with java, which repository should I use for breezy java upgrades10:18
silent_screamdoes anybody know how sagem fast 800, can work in breezy?10:18
naliothubotu: tell casimir about java10:18
BiSK-8nalioth: no it dosent....10:18
mcphailMrMaDSeN: could do. Don't know if it will help.10:18
enycmrma: could do....10:18
mcquaida feature i miss in synaptic is, if i install a proggie and it requires a bunch of stuff, i swear there used to be an option to remove orphaned stuff when uninstalling10:18
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BiSK-8i didnt upgrade, i installed from a cd10:18
jas_crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..10:18
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enycmrma: depends what the problem is ;-)10:19
mcquaiddoes kde's adept have that feature?10:19
P8ntKidcrimsun: How do i do that?10:19
mcphailMrMaDSeN: you could also drop to a terminal and try killing the process10:19
naliothBiSK-8: the servers are getting hammered today. that may be why your apt isng working10:19
etnoyis it possible to upgrade to breezy w/ a CD? I have a lot of boxes at home, and downloading breezy on all machines is a bit too heavy10:19
crimsunP8ntKid: change the preferences>plugin10:19
TiMiDoetnoy: yes10:19
mcquaidglad i did breezy last week ;)10:19
MrMaDSeNmcphail, just wondering if anyone else asked that particular question in here too :)10:19
TiMiDohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive10:19
naliothetnoy: yes it is, use "apt-cdrom"10:19
P8ntKidcrimsun: For xmms?10:19
BiSK-8nalioth: no its not caz of that, it sais the package is obsolete10:19
silent_screamdoes anybody know how sagem fast 800, can work in breezy???10:20
occycrimsun, they nuked the old beep-media-player skin. :(10:20
mcphailMrMaDSeN: i've just joined, but an apt-get update took about 5 minutes!10:20
TvMcan i disable atapi??10:20
naliothBiSK-8: ah. well lots of that goin on10:20
etnoynalioth: okay, so I just insert the new breezy cd and go?10:20
occycrimsun, (heh, and left the old preview in place for it)10:20
naliothetnoy: yes, your gui should pop up and ask if you want to upgrade10:20
crimsunoccy: I nuked it and didn't update the preview by accident.10:20
MrMaDSeNmcphail, oki10:20
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etnoynalioth: perfect!10:20
occycrimsun, grrr, it's YOU I can blame!%@#%#@%10:20
occyheh10:20
zenlinuxNHany news about whether there will be an "unofficial ubuntu starter guide" for breezy?10:20
etnoynot mentioned anywhere ;)10:20
ginosilent_scream,  i have the same question with speedtouch usb modem10:21
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occycrimsun, the old theme was inspiration for occy.net !10:21
occy:)10:21
crimsunoccy: which old theme?10:21
Daveyis it just me, or does Breezys Thunderbird feel like its a WINE app?10:21
crimsunoccy: the debian one?10:21
occycrimsun, the old beep-media-player theme.10:21
naliothzenlinuxNH: there will be an official starter guide10:21
occycrimsun, nod10:21
Daveylike its running the wrong UI inside of the window decorations10:21
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BiSK-8nalioth: and what abt totem?10:21
naliothubotu: tell zenlinuxNH about ubuntuguide10:21
silent_screamgino,that make two of us10:21
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cyberixAnyone running Breezy with "Matrox Millennium G450 dualhead"?10:21
BiSK-8nalioth: it sais that its missing plugins10:21
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crimsunoccy: it was better to have a Ubuntu-oriented one (requested)10:21
jas_crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..10:21
squid0hello all10:21
cyberixIt messes up my virtual consoles 1-610:22
naliothBiSK-8: so install them10:22
squid0now this may seem a bit simple, but...10:22
silent_screamgino, are trying by eagle-usb?10:22
stevencarsoni am trying to reinstall the packages via apt-get and everything is failing saying 'depends libesd0'???10:22
graabeinhello10:22
zenlinuxNHnalioth: thanks10:22
occycrimsun, I can understand that for default...  do you have a copy of the old one?10:22
marshhi. anyone know if theres a way to read ntfs yet?10:22
ginoyes and  usb modems are not very much accepted , here10:22
squid0are there any huge benefits of using 5.10?10:22
BiSK-8nalioth: how10:22
BiSK-8?10:22
P8ntKidcrimsun: ???10:22
Daveyactually, it *is* using the wrong UI, its using the Gnome default with the green and not the Clearlooks Deepsky :)10:22
naliothmarsh: reading ntfs has been doable for a long time10:22
zenlinuxNH!faq10:22
ubotumethinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/10:22
squid0ie. any really killer features?10:22
silent_screamit is supposed to be a help channel althought10:22
i3dmasterwhich file /quit10:22
naliothubotu: tell marsh about ntfs10:22
crimsunoccy: it's retrievable from the orig.tar.gz of the Debian tarball, which you'll need to grab from packages.debian.org/beep-media-player10:22
Daveyguess thats what I get for trying to use my system during the upgrade10:22
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naliothBiSK-8: use synaptic10:22
occycrimsun, k, danke10:23
marshon an apt-get basis10:23
marsh?10:23
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crimsunP8ntKid: secondary-click, preferences10:23
Christophe971j010:23
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ginolocate usbview10:23
BiSK-8nalioth: where do i download them from?10:23
crimsunP8ntKid: or I think it's Options> Preferences for XMMS10:23
jas_crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..10:23
mcquaidhmm i installed commonccp in apt and when compiling ccrtp it says:10:23
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mcquaidchecking for commoncpp2 version >= 1.3.0... not found10:23
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crimsunmcquaid: you need the -dev files10:23
naliothBiSK-8: join #kubuntu-offtopic please10:23
Christophe971do i'm dreaming or there is NOT live/install dvd of breezy available  ???10:23
crimsunfile^10:23
virguleinstall commoncpp2-dev10:23
naliothmcquaid: build it10:23
crimsunChristophe971: you're dreaming.10:23
P8ntKidcrimsun: And then change the outputplugin to alsa?10:23
crimsunP8ntKid: yes10:24
Christophe971http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ crimsun10:24
ginopppd call adsl10:24
mcquaidoops i should know that by now thx10:24
Christophe971crimsun: url ?10:24
crimsunChristophe971: topic?10:24
P8ntKidcrimsun: I did that.10:24
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Christophe971crimsun: dvd/install10:24
crimsunse mirror was having problems syncing.10:24
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jas_crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..10:24
Christophe971crimsun: live/install10:24
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crimsunuse mirror.cs.umn.edu10:24
Christophe971crimsun: ye10:24
Christophe971yes10:24
crimsunjas_: sec10:25
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P8ntKidcrimsun: It still wont let me play the video when xmms is open10:25
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stevencarsonhow do i burn my files to cd from command line - i think a fresh install is the only way forward10:25
squid0hi fellas what is a good open-source virtual machine program?10:25
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stevencarsonbreezy has bust me10:25
domeniquehello10:25
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hubuntusquid0 qemu10:25
lllmanulllsquid0, qemu ?10:25
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TvMno solution for my prob....10:25
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squid0hubuntu, lllmanulll , thanks, i'll check it10:26
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mohkohnsudo apt-get install realplayer isn't working. It asks me to download rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm.10:26
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mohkohnBut this seems to be an out of date file.10:26
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domeniquei upgraded to breezy and everything was fine, but after a reboot i can't get into X anymore10:26
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Christophe971crimsun: no torrents nowhere10:26
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Christophe971mirror.cs.umn.edu is down10:26
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crimsunChristophe971: it is not down, it's just swamped10:27
mohkohnWhen I go to  http://scopes.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html all I can find is RealPlayer Gold10:27
virgulenow I want a fancy bash prompt but the PS1 syntax is confusing the heck out of me -- I want a bright username then a blue PWD10:27
domeniquewhen i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header10:27
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Christophe971damned10:27
Rev-MarcSomeone said to edit "xorg.conf" to turnoff my touchpad but I don't know how to do that, please help10:27
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occycrimsun, wow, there's another cool skin in there.10:27
ginomohkohn,  it seems to be *.deb instead of *.rpm10:27
occycrimsun, I smell a new revision of occy.net coming10:27
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occy*chuckle*10:27
crimsunP8ntKid: did you modify ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf on your own?10:27
crimsunoccy: which?10:27
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P8ntKidcrimsun: No, why?10:28
stevencarsoni am trying to reinstall the packages via apt-get and everything is failing saying 'depends libesd0'???10:28
crimsunoccy: the blue one?10:28
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occycrimsun, sec10:28
occycrimsun, nod10:28
mohkohnNormally (with hoary) the deb installed the rpm automagically10:28
crimsunoccy: that's non-free10:28
occycrimsun, the darker blue one10:28
occycrimsun, really?10:28
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domeniquewhen i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header ? and when gdm tries to start it givesz a seg fault ? anyone ????10:28
will_Can someone point me in the direction of how i would stop ath0 starting on startup? Checked google, help wiki etc. and can't find anything!10:28
mohkohnall you typed was apt-get install realplayer10:28
crimsunoccy: that's why the Debian tarball ships the Debian skin as the default. Read README.Debian10:28
XenguyI am getting this error on the login screen...10:28
Xenguy"Configuration is not correct The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.  Please fix your configuration."10:28
Christophe971is there someone there who can DCC send me a i386 breezy live/install DVD ?10:29
Rev-MarcSomeone said to edit "xorg.conf" to turnoff my touchpad but I don't know how to do that, please help10:29
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something_elsehmm gnome-volume-manager thinks my hard disk is not removable10:29
XenguyHow can I fix the error above?10:29
something_elsewell I can see why10:29
occycrimsun, ahhh, well, I've already been "inspired" by it.10:29
occy:)10:29
crimsunP8ntKid: that would explain why dmix doesn't work10:29
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crimsunoccy: whatever works :-)10:29
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occycrimsun, I can't unsee a thing.10:29
P8ntKidcrimsun: What should i do then?10:29
occyhehe10:29
crimsunP8ntKid: close XMMS10:29
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Christophe971is there someone there who can DCC send me a i386 breezy live/install DVD ?10:29
stevencarsonhow do i burn files to cd from command line pleeeeeez?  breezy has broken my gui10:29
dseomnhow do I use the new oem installer seed?10:30
domeniquewhen i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header ? and when gdm tries to start it givesz a seg fault ? anyone plz ?10:30
stevencarsonmust do fresh install rather than upgrade10:30
crimsundseomn: there are instructions in the announcement10:30
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dseomncrimsun: thanks, I'll look again10:30
Christophe971stevencarson: have you done a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?10:30
topylivirgule: it's all configurable of course. my .bashrc: http://siltala.net/comp/bashrc . hack away! :)10:30
P8ntKidcrimsun: I did,10:30
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stevencarsonChristoph - yes xserver is not there10:31
KleggasI installed breezy today and can't login to TLS protected ftp's (like my own) with lftp. could do that on hoary out of the box I think. any package needed?10:31
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stevencarsonmy upgrade via synaptic failed half way thru10:31
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jas_crimsun did you forget about me again :(10:31
concept10Is there a way to interact with uboto from outside of irc?10:31
budluvastevencarson, i tried upgrade via synaptic yesterday, stalled on libc610:32
ginocheck /etc/apt/sources.list10:32
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marshubotu - how come I run the script & the machine still reports a 'read only file system'?10:32
ubotumarsh: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about10:32
crimsunjas_: no, I'm very busy10:32
Feral_KidIn 5.10, does the multiverse repoistory still exist?10:32
budluvastevencarson, change your sources.list to read breezy instead of hoary apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade10:32
topylivirgule: correction: http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc10:32
crimsunFeral_Kid: yes10:32
jas_crimsun Sorry I just had to joke with ya hehe10:32
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budluvastevencarson, upgrade via apt worked great10:32
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crimsunjas_: did you post it on a Web site?10:32
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marshi just ran the winmac_fstab... but the filesystem is still read only... :(10:32
concept10nalioth, you awake?10:32
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stevencarsonbudluva: tried that and libesd0 is not being found10:32
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jas_crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file on the web...10:33
stevencarsonbudluva: nothing will install10:33
Feral_Kidcrimsun: Where can I find that in the wiki so I can see what to add...10:33
zcat[1] marsh: unmount and mount it again, so it uses the new fstab options?10:33
marshi have to update anything?10:33
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budluvastevencarson, dont know what to tell you my upgrade worked fine10:33
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crimsunFeral_Kid: wiki.ubuntu.com?10:33
Christophe971stevencarson: have you done a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?10:33
stevencarsonjust want to back up  my files now and do fresh install10:33
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budluvaexcept now updating while servers are been slammed was not a good idea :P10:33
Christophe971stevencarson: Xcuse10:33
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Christophe971is there someone there who can DCC send me a i386 breezy live/install DVD ?10:33
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Christophe971francois: yo le francais10:33
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francoisyo10:33
budluvaChristophe971, whats wrong with the torrent?10:33
Daveyinfernall, still around?10:33
P8ntKidcrimsun: What should i do now?10:34
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ginoplait10:34
Christophe971budluva: i can't find it10:34
francoislu tt le monde10:34
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stevencarsondoes anybody know how to burn home dir to cd from command line?10:34
domeniquewhen i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header ? and when gdm tries to start it givesz a seg fault ? anyone plz ??10:34
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JuhazChristophe971, the dvd isn't out yet, takes a week or so10:34
Christophe971Juhaz: okayyy10:34
budluvadvd is out10:34
Christophe971arf10:34
Christophe9712/110:34
Christophe971out/in10:34
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telonirhow can i tell "screen" to open 4 "consoles" with specific progs running in them?10:34
Christophe971budluva: give me a url, all url i'm watching is without dvd10:34
teimuhi #ubuntu, i just loaded up the live CD, but before i could connect to the net, i had to configure my ethernet card with IPv4 (it only gave me IPv6 by default). im wondering tho, is a way to do this from the command line? i used the little 'configure10:35
Christophe971teimu: yes10:35
Christophe971telonir: yes10:35
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bonvenondoes anyone know why my synaptics touchpad don't work if I don't configure my usb mouse as /dev/input/mice ?10:35
will_arghhhh how can it be so hard just to stop ath0 starting at bootup, windows can do it in two clicks :(10:35
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budluvabreezy-dvd-i386.iso.torrent    12-Oct-2005 20:14   57K  Install/live DVD for PC (Intel x86) computers (BitTorrent download)10:35
ginoteimu netcardconfig10:35
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teloniryes?10:35
Christophe971budluva: where10:35
Hughiehow come when i go to donwload something in synaptics it says rate is unknown and it never downloads?10:36
mwewill_: did you look into /etc/network/interfaces?10:36
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mcphailHughie: today is not a good day for downloading10:36
budluvahrmm, seems to be a daily build but should be considered final10:36
budluvahttp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/?C=M;O=A10:36
Daveyif I currently had ubuntu-desktop installed, do I need to do as the wiki says and reinstall it?10:36
Hughieoh okay, must be why thne ^^10:36
Hughiethats hat i wondered10:36
amortalWhere should one file potential fs / kernel bugs?10:36
Hughiethanks10:36
crimsunwill_: remove the auto ath0 line10:36
will_mwe: yes, I've commented out the ath0 but it didn't do it10:37
topylistevencarson: you could install the "burn" package, or just use this script: http://siltala.net/comp/burndir.sh10:37
hubuntuanyone: is there a list over synced repositories for breezy update from hoary?10:37
Rev-Marcis the 64bit dvd torrent file available and if so where can I get it?10:37
crimsunP8ntKid: what's the issue?10:37
teimugino, apparently, netcardconfig is not a recognized command10:37
graabeinguys, how do i find conflicting packages that is mention in the pre-upgrade part of the wiki?10:37
jas_crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file on the web...10:37
P8ntKidcrimsun: remember, i cant get the sound to work when xmms is open.10:37
will_it says mapping hotplug, script grep, map ath0 and i've commented all <--- that out10:37
crimsunjas_: e-mail it to crimsunkg at yahoo10:38
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P8ntKidcrimsun: I also cant get the sound to work at all with the firefox mplayerplugin10:38
foxinesscan i use smartlink on breezy ?10:38
topylistevencarson: oh, let me rename it so it will display right in your browser10:38
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marshobotu - sorry mate... possibly need a bit of handholding... still no joy on reading the ntfs - could i be having problems because it's a USB drive?10:38
telonirany ideasa?10:38
topylihttp://siltala.net/comp/burndir-shell-txt10:38
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foxinessi want to upgrade but if it broken i can not access the internet anyone?10:39
topylistevencarson: ^^10:39
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topylifoxiness: you can use the cd if you can get it on another machine10:39
Daveyoooh, forget Gnome 2.12, theres a new version of Tux-Racer! :)10:39
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something_elseI forgot who I was talking to earlier, but it seems gnome-volume-manager doesnt automount if its not "removable"10:39
grndslmis it possible to speed up the upload on gnome-btdownload????  it won't go above 33kbps and I've got quite a bit more than that10:39
jas_crimsun: k I sent it.10:39
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Rev-Marcis the 64bit dvd torrent file available and if so where can I get it?10:40
marshobotu - you still about? or you given up on me10:40
marsh?10:40
MFenall the upgrade instructions i've seen say "change hoary to breezy and run update; dist-upgrade".. but frankly the archive and mirrors are pretty overloaded and that'll take forever, regardless.  i got the entire install cd, isn't there an easy way to upgrade off of that?10:40
teimusorry to repeat myself, but is there a way to configure your netword card on the command line?10:40
something_elseyes there is10:40
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gelbergjust upgraded to breezy - kaffeine now won't play dvds, says "no decoders found to handle stream, might need to install corresponding plugins". do have libdvdcss2 installed.10:40
teimuenlighten me10:40
something_elseifconfig10:40
something_elseiwconfig for wireless10:40
something_elseand route10:40
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TFPhi10:40
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something_elseof course dhclient for dhcp10:40
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TFPhow can i look which partitions i have in my computer?10:41
something_elsedf10:41
something_elseno wait10:41
MFenteimu: well, the more debian way would be "man interfaces; vi /etc/network/interfaces" and ifdown/up to suit10:41
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Knorriemarsh: obotu is a bot10:41
MFenteimu: this is essentially what the gui widget does, though10:41
something_elsetry fdisk -l10:41
topyliTFP: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda for example10:41
bimberiTFP: sudo fdisk -l10:41
TFPthx10:41
gelbergperhaps i should try #kubuntu10:41
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Tyleri cant get 3d working, its on mesa, i installed the ati drivers and configured them, it says ati in xorg.conf and i set it to ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:42
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with some sound problems? I cant get the sound to work with the mplayer plugin thing with firefox period. But i can get the sound to work if i download videos and play them in totem or xine if XMMS is closed.10:42
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something_elsehow do I get hold of banshee10:42
teimuok. thanks for the help =)10:42
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mensuri have found a small bug in console i 5.10 =)10:42
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Patrik88why run comands with sudo before???? anyone10:42
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topyliTyler: the ati driver is the open source one. you probably want fglrx or whatever it is10:42
mensurbut quite distrubring10:42
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bimberiPatrik88: to get superuser privs10:42
jas_Patrik88 Its super user do its like root.10:43
Tylerno i installed my ati dirvers off ati.com10:43
marshAaahhhh.... Anyone know anything about writing to NTFS?10:43
crimsunP8ntKid: add "ao=esd" to /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf10:43
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topyliTyler: but you're not using it10:43
bimberiubotu tell Patrik88 about rootsudo10:43
Tyleri also installed fglrx btw from synpatic10:43
ddd2Does Ubuntu run on imac G5??10:43
crimsunjas_: I'll be quite lagged for a bit; telephone10:43
Patrik88thx10:43
will_any other ideas for disabling ath0 other than /etc/network/interfaces?10:43
jas_crimsun: Okay no worries.10:43
bimberiPatrik88: yw :)10:43
graabeinbreezy (sound): Audio Managment and Playback application [universe] 10:43
Tylertopyli, so how do i use it?10:43
ktogiasPatrik88: We have no privilege to run it as normal users...10:43
miksucool 40 % upgrade10:43
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cozis there a specific topic this evening or can we just bring something up?10:43
mensurmarsh, there is a company which has developed a software which you can write to ntfs10:43
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Knorriemarsh: no ntfs writing from linux10:44
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LoevborgDamn, how do I burn an ISO using k3b or gnome's cd creator?10:44
graabeinsomething_else, looks like it's in breezy universe10:44
P8ntKidcrimsun: Its allready like that.10:44
CPUnerdwhat's up with imagemagik php library in ubuntu ? Doesn't respect the clipping path ?10:44
topyliTyler: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. then choose the fglrx driver when asked, otherwise keep hitting enter10:44
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Patrik88bimberi: yw??10:44
marshKnorrie - why do others tell me there is... I'm getting mixed messages... :(10:44
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something_elsegraabein, ill have a look cheers10:44
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Rev-Marcis the 64bit dvd torrent file available and if so where can I get it?10:44
mensurhas anyone more found any bug in console????10:44
bimberiPatrik88: you're welcome :)10:44
Tylertopyli, last time i had ati i chose ATi off that list and it worked fine, why do i need to choose fglrx?10:44
Patrik88oh, hehe sry10:44
bimberi:)10:45
Knorriemarsh: perhaps there are tools that allow some things, but its very experimental10:45
mwright1nightHas anyone here used edubuntu?10:45
marshmensur - you know who they are (the NTFS)?10:45
miksuloevberg in terminal, cdrecord *.iso dev/cdr0110:45
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Knorriemarsh: M$10:45
budluvaso nvidia-glx doesnt support tnt2/mach64 anymore? its now nvidia-glx-legacy?10:45
something_elsebloody hell archives is slow10:45
mcquaidok i'm trying to compile a kde app and getting:10:45
mwright1nightHow can I find out if edubuntu has a package called  TeachersPet or "Teachers Pet"10:45
Rev-Marc:(10:45
mcquaidconfigure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt310:45
mcquaidbut i have the dev libs installed10:45
topyliTyler: that's the proprietary, accelerated driver. it may be broken at any time, be aware of that, but that's the way with some video chip manufacturers who don't contribute free drivers for us10:45
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coz I have PCI, not agp nvidia fx 5200 how can I make this work in ubuntu breezy??10:46
shinuLoevborg: in k3b its in tools > cd10:46
shinui think10:46
amortalRev-Marc: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/5.10/10:46
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Knorriemarsh: so you risk losing all data when using them10:46
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MFenmwright1night: from the system administration menu, bring up synaptic package manager, and search for something like "teachers"10:46
jrrthe /. publicity is great, but the apt server load isn't -\10:46
jrr* =\10:46
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crimsunmcquaid: you need to use --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt310:46
Tylergrr i cantg get my ati dirvers to work, its set on mesa for some reas10:46
Tylerreason*10:46
P8ntKidcrimsun: The sound doesnt play at all in firefox. IT plays in mplayer/zine/totem/nautrun outside of firefox when XMMS is closed.10:46
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Rev-Marcamortal Thank You and God ZBless10:46
mensurdoes anyone else get this error when writing in console cd..  bash: cd..: command not found10:47
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Knorriemensur: use a space10:47
mcquaidcrimsun, ok but i never had to do that before in hoary, just needed the libs10:47
crimsunP8ntKid: file a bug10:47
Knorriemensur: cd ..10:47
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Loevborgshinu, why the deuce didn't I find that? thansk.10:47
mensurKnorrie, will try10:47
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Blippemarsh: there are two tools which i am aware of, but both of them r very experimental: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html10:47
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mensurthanx10:47
mcquaidor is it becuase i have qt3 and not qt4?10:47
shinuLoevborg: very well hidden isnt it? :)10:47
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crimsunP8ntKid: http://launchpad.net/malone10:47
Knorriemensur: cd.. works in dos, in unix cd is an external command10:47
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DaveyI have breezy! now for the reboot :D10:47
bonvenoncan anyone help me get _both_ my synaptics touchpad and wacom tablet working simultaneously?10:47
_jasonwhats the command to see what version you have?10:47
P8ntKidcrimsun: People allready have. Alot of people on the forums have the problem but havent fixed it either.10:47
shinuLoevborg: i only know because a few days ago i had the same problem and had to google around :P10:47
davedi have automake-1.4 and automake-1.7 binaries installed.. what's the approved method of letting an autogen.sh script know which one to use?10:47
crimsunP8ntKid: then there's nothing more we can do atm10:48
jrrare there *other* primary apt sources (or perhaps is us.archive.ubuntu a round-robin?)10:48
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crimsunjrr: topic10:48
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|AmaTeuR|get configure error "can't find x includes", how can i solve that/10:48
|AmaTeuR|?10:48
crimsun|AmaTeuR|: install libx11-dev10:48
crimsundaved: set the alternative10:48
LokeDKwhere's ssh logs located? there's like nothing with ssh in /var/log/messages10:48
crimsundaved: man update-alternatives10:48
|AmaTeuR|crimsun:already installed10:48
crimsunLokeDK: /var/log/daemon.log10:48
Tylerhow can i prevent it from saying its mesa? i installed the ati drivers right and set it to ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and installed all the fglrx stuff off synaptic10:49
graabeinguys, how do i find conflicting packages that is mentioned in the pre-upgrade part of the wiki?10:49
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crimsun|AmaTeuR|: then it's looking for something specific, which is an extension, which means configure.in is broken and needs to be updated10:49
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topyliTyler: which card do you have? my radeon 9200 on my work box freezes the whole box with the fglrx driver10:49
MFenBlippe and marsh: linux-ntfs is very experimental. there's another one which is not.10:49
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crimsuncaptive ntfs10:50
bonvenonanyone?10:50
Tylertopyli, i have a radeon 9200 as well10:50
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Tylertopyli, i just tried the fglrx and it still says its mesa10:50
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mcquaidcrimsun i tried: ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 but still get: configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt310:50
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MFenyeah, that was the name. thanks, crimsun10:50
mcquaidalso tried ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt310:50
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Rev-MarcWhat is "Jigdo" and is it faster or better that "Bittorent"?10:50
topyliTyler: you're luckier than i am, my box is unusable if i boot x with this driver :)10:50
crimsunmcquaid: --prefix is where you want to install the package. You don't want to do that.10:50
virguleI such a weirdo --Im used to Hoary +kubuntu-desktop but I get tired of it. So I installed Kubuntu from scratch and found myself installing ubuntu-desktop..oh yeah..10:50
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Tylertopyli, eh not really cuz it doesnt work :( i need 3d10:51
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crimsunvirgule: that's not weird at all. Next you get to try xubuntu-desktop.10:51
mcquaidok i thought so thats why i tried that second10:51
eracerbittopyli: fglrx crashes me too10:51
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topyliTyler: just buy a matrox card like linux users have done always =)10:51
MFenRev-Marc: i've never succeeded in using jigdo, but i can tell you that what you get isn't the same as what you'll download from bittorrent. i recommend bittorrent.10:51
virgulewhat is it?10:51
horzawhy cant i get fluxbox with apt-get?10:51
crimsunvirgule: Xfce10:51
JemtGreetings. Why can't I use 'http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/' as source for my backports any more ?10:51
MFenRev-Marc: bittorrent is very fast, particularly now when everyone's using it10:51
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JemtI have also tried 'http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/'10:51
davedcrimsun: thanks :)10:51
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crimsunmcquaid: I presume you have libqt3-mt-dev installed?10:51
TylerDurdenso can anyone PLEASE help me get rid of mesa?10:52
bimberiJemt: it's been discontinued10:52
Syrrahello10:52
topyliJemt: mirrormax is dead10:52
graabeinhmmmm think i'll wait a couple days to dist-upgrade10:52
mcquaidcrimsun, yes10:52
graabeinlater10:52
Jemtbimberi: But I can access 'http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/' using a browser10:52
virguleI love that one :) If only the font could be as nice as in KDE --That are sooooo BIG in GNOME and Xfce I stopped using these two. Lowering the sizes on help until I use a KDE apps then trhe fonts are microscopics.10:52
bimberiJemt: yes, but it's probably empty, or the files to work with apt are no longer there10:52
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mcquaidi've compiled a few kde apps in the past with hoary without issue10:53
horzaanyone know how to install fluxbox? cant get it from apt-get :/10:53
will_what other network files are there other than /etc/network/interfaces that could be starting ath0 at startup please?10:53
crimsunmcquaid: do you have qt3-dev-tools-compat installed?10:53
Rev-MarcMFen thank You I still can't find a torrent file for the DVD releases the last website someone gave me only had the CD10:53
Jemtbimberi: What do I do then ?10:53
SyrraI've forgotten what the off topic channel is, could I have the channel name again please?10:53
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BockBilbohello10:53
crimsunmcquaid: and qt3-dev-tools?10:53
bimberijemt use the official backports10:53
Jemtbimberi: Ubunto is nothing worth to me without backports10:53
virgulehorza: do you have universe enable?10:53
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MFenRev-Marc: ah. well, i don't know about the dvd. i'm sure it's out there somewhere. i downloaded the cd torrent this morning.10:53
bimberiubotu tell Jemt about backports10:53
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horzavirgule, il check10:53
Jemtbimberi: Are you talking about Universe and Multiverse ?10:53
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Rev-MarcI have several computers in the Youth room that do not have internet10:53
mcquaidcrimsun, yep10:53
frankgWhat's the default user for ubuntu - latest edition?10:53
Jemtbimberi: Oh, great!10:53
JemtThanks alot, bimberi10:54
frankguser/pass10:54
cuscohi im running the live cd... how do I check wich process is using port 80 ??10:54
crimsunfrankg: whatever you configure it to be10:54
bimberiJemt: no, and yw :)10:54
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eliphas_any backport yet?10:54
infernallcusco, netstat -an --tcp | grep 8010:54
frankgcrimsun, I'm using the live CD10:54
crimsuneliphas_: no.10:54
gloriamy super hipebolic thermonuclear reactor computer has taken over my home comands and doesn't let me out10:54
wRdmy ubuntu regularly freezes and then produced a a "ata command 0x35 timeout" the satamodule is "sata_via" ? does anyone know how to get rid of this problem?10:54
BockBilboi need some help, just upgraded my server to breezy, and now cant connect to the mysql db of the server from my laptop. Ive checked the iptables config, and im using the script i used in hoary (that worked) and ive also checked if the mysql user for the laptop still exists, and it does..10:54
crimsunfrankg: ubuntu/10:54
eliphas_thanks crimsun10:54
BockBilboany idea?10:54
infernallcusco, nm, didnt read that right10:54
horzavirgule, i didnt, testing now10:54
topylihorza: fluxbox is in universe10:54
infernallcusco, it may show something10:54
frankgcrimsun, trying...10:54
RustyJameshello there i need a program that reminds me of birthdays. e.g. when i startup the system. iI would prefer something that reads the birthdays of the evolution data. any Ideas?10:54
virgulehorza; run apt-get update before trying :)10:54
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horzahehe10:55
barnes_I am having trouble connecting to the iternet on Breezy. I have a Dlink DWL 520. I tried getting it to work on the live version, and havn't tried installing it yet, cna anyone help?10:55
MFenRustyJames: i kinda like sunbird, but i have no idea if it integrates with Evolution (or even whether it's in breezy)10:55
Syrrathe.. off topic channel ?10:55
cuscoinfernall: it shows the following:10:55
cuscoubuntu@ubuntu:~$ netstat -an --tcp | grep 8010:55
cuscotcp       53      0 192.168.1.101:33686     69.60.123.180:21        CLOSE_WAIT10:55
MFensunbird has the advantage of being ics compliant10:55
infernallcusco, so nothing is using 8010:55
cuscoer10:55
topyliSyrra: #ubuntu-offtopic, would you believe :)10:55
virguleIf  I stop apt-get from instaling 238 packages would it resume where it stopped If I run the command again?10:56
Syrrawell, I wasn't sure. Thank you topyli10:56
MFentopyli: boy does that sound like a recipe for abuse10:56
barnes_I am having trouble connecting to the iternet on Breezy. I have a Dlink DWL 520. I tried getting it to work on the live version, and havn't tried installing it yet, cna anyone help?10:56
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frankgcrimsun, ubuntu login screen says:  incorrect username and password.  must be typed with correct case.10:56
RustyJamesMFen, does Sunbird have such a birthday reminder?10:56
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concept10who maintains ubotu?10:56
cusco<10/13/05@20:56:13> [main]  error opening source socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!10:56
jas_crimsun: You forget about me now hehe :P10:56
bimberivirgule: yes10:56
MFenRustyJames: it's a general calendaring app, it has all the usual calendar stuff10:56
cuscoinfernall: <10/13/05@20:56:13> [main]  error opening source socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!10:56
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infernallcusco, apache?10:56
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cuscoinfernall: no :|10:56
concept10!wiki dlink52010:56
barnes_I am having trouble connecting to the iternet on Breezy. I have a Dlink DWL 520. I tried getting it to work on the live version, and havn't tried installing it yet, cna anyone help?10:56
RustyJamesMFen, its part of the Mozilla products isnt it?10:56
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horzavirgule: thanks :D10:56
bimbericoncept10: cafuego10:57
infernallcusco, what is it?10:57
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concept10barnes_, goto the wiki10:57
Skidanyone notice that breezy changes your iface name?10:57
MFenRustyJames: yes, a relatively new one10:57
crimsunjas_: no, I just haven't had time to download the file10:57
Skidmy wifi adapter now is eth2? :p10:57
horzavirgule: im new to ubuntu, and i liked it :D10:57
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concept10bimberi, he maintains it?10:57
barnes_Thanks concept1010:57
jas_crimsun: Ahhh gotcha Its okay I was updating some steam files anyways.10:57
crimsunfrankg: ubuntu/  <-- this means the username is "ubuntu", and there is no password.10:57
bimbericoncept10: i guess so, it runs on his server10:57
frankgcrimsun, that's what I entered10:58
cuscoinfernall: its the shoutcast server10:58
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concept10bimberi, okay, thanks10:58
cuscoinfernall: I would like to use port 80 instead of the default 800010:58
wRdor is there are quick way to prove wheter the harddrive is not working ?10:58
bimbericoncept10: yw :)10:58
horzavirgule, is aterm in universe too?10:58
RustyJamesMFen, but does it have this birthday functionallity? I searched this feature in Evolution but it doesnt seem to have it.10:58
horzatried to comile it from source, didnt want to10:58
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topyli!info aterm10:58
ubotuaterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-11 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 280 kB10:58
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infernallcusco, sorry im just going home from work now.  i do have a few shoutcast servers, and I know changing the port is a PITA10:58
virgulehorza: you can use apt-cache search packagename to find out ;)10:59
horza:D10:59
concept10cafuego, I have a idea..could i pm you?10:59
MFenRustyJames: what specifically do you mean?10:59
infernallcusco, make sure shoutcast encoder and sc_serv are using different ports... like 81 and 8010:59
cuscoPITA??10:59
infernallserver on 80 of course10:59
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infernallpain in the a..10:59
petterahhi, if i install ubuntu as server profile, and then kde-core, will i have default kde look then?10:59
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infernallanyways, im leaving work now.10:59
cuscoinfernall: yes they are10:59
cuscoinfernall: Im sure if I change the portbase it will work11:00
infernallgood luck, try the nullsoft forums...11:00
lymzi think keyringmanager messed up my password, anyway i can reset it?11:00
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MFenarghwtftmi11:00
MFenwhy is it removing apt-file?11:00
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MFendang it.11:00
RustyJamesMFen, some function that uses the birthday dates i already entered in evolution and then reminds me on the day of birthday and perhaps a few days ahead.11:00
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lampshade#ubuntu your my only friends11:01
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virguleoooh11:01
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MFenRustyJames: it can do that, but i don't know if it integrates with evolution, as i said11:01
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crimsunfrankg: what are you trying to do?11:01
virguleI love my computer: fetched 255kb is 1s (118kb/s)11:01
MFenargh. screw it. there's no way i'm going to upgrade today11:02
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MFenlater all11:02
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frankgcrimsun, I was looking around and chose new login from a menu - it logged me out - I'm trying to log back in11:02
RustyJamesMFen, ok Thank you, that would be what i searched for.11:02
wRdwhy does the kernel load sata_via even if its not in /etc/modules and it has no dependencies ,where can i change to some kind of generic driver?11:02
RustyJamesMFen, I will try it.11:03
MFencool11:03
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CrubeDoes anyone have any guide I could use for creating an ssh server for irssi to my computer?11:03
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jrattner1have installention DVD torents been released yet?11:03
wrabbitIs it possible to play dvds in ubuntu?11:04
lampshadeCrube:  apt-get install openssh ?11:04
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Knorriewrabbit: vlc11:04
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lampshadewrabbit:  Yes with VLC11:04
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mcquaidanyone try to compile a qt app in breezy?11:04
Crubelampshade I've installed it, but I just dont knoiw how to use it :D11:04
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lancer285can someone help me, my sound quit working11:04
nybblehmm... someone help me. i cant seem to log in to the wiki11:04
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barnes_Turns out that my wireless card is the one that is next to impossible to set up.11:04
wrabbitlampshade, Knorrie I have it installed but can't figure out how to use it11:04
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Crubejrattner1 ubuntu is single cd. No need for dvd11:04
barnes_I was planning on gettting a new one anyways.11:04
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TylerDurdensigh please someone help me. how come i cant get 3d working? my ati is set on vesa for some reason even though i installed the drivers from ati and set fglrxconfig right+dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xrog is set on ati11:05
wrabbitlampshade, Knorrie ... feel like giving me a quick hand?11:05
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Knorriewrabbit: menu File -> Open disk?11:05
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lampshadewrabbit:  It should just be a matter of putting the dvd in and launching the Dvd from the FIle menu11:05
jrattner1Crube, really, ahh good to know... Are the torrents running fast?11:05
crimsunTylerDurden: dpkg -l \*mesa\*|grep ^ii11:05
crimsunTylerDurden: then remove those packages11:05
CrubeTylerDurden try installing the drivers when xserver is not running.11:05
TylerDurdenhow crimsun ?11:05
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lancer285My sound stopped working after a reboot. The music 'plays' the games work, but no sound outta the speakers. I made sure the audio cable was still plugged into the comp. any ideas?11:06
Crubejrattner1 been running smoothly all day11:06
jrattner1Damn traffic is killing it : )11:06
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crimsunlancer285: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:06
jrattner1Crube, hmm good11:06
TylerDurdencrimsun, how do i remove those?11:06
nderjm_TiMiDo: The driver didnt work for me.  My graphics care is not one of those that needs that driver.  And the laptop worked fine with Hoary without a special driver11:06
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virgule..speaking torrents.. I have a couple Gig left unused I thought I could host something to help..11:06
lancer285crimsun, I get there w/ a webbrowser?11:07
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jrattner1us.releases.ubuntu.com must be under a ton of stress, the pages wont even load :  )11:07
wrabbitlampshade, Knorrie : I've tried open disc but it doesn't auto load and there're a bunch of options that make no sense11:07
CrubeTylerDurden I had ALOT trouble with ati drivers, and this is the guide that worked for me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455711:07
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miksuwhat is the terminal command for entering root mode11:07
Kyralsudo -i11:07
TiMiDomiksu: sudo11:07
TylerDurdenCrube, thanks ill try that11:07
Loevborgmiksu, "sudo -s"11:07
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tristanmikesudo -s\11:07
GuennarrHello everyone.11:07
tristanmike*sudo -s11:07
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ubuntu__so what11:08
Knorriewrabbit: open file -> browse -> open the .vob11:08
Kyralsudo -i is better11:08
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barnes_What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)11:08
lampshadewrabbit:  Ummm for a  normal DVD just do open disc dvd with menus.  and OK it should go  is it some special DVD or something?  A vcd?11:08
Kyralit fully inits a root environment11:08
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GuennarrCan anyone help me with installation problems concerning X-org?11:08
LoevborgKyral, they differ in changing $HOME resp. not?11:08
lancer285crimsun, I have a bigger problem it seems. I can't see any fonts in Firefox11:08
KyralLoevborg, thats what I can see ;P11:08
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ubuntu__how to activate dlink dwl122 please11:09
CrubeGuennarr depends on the problem11:09
stuart_hi everyone, has anybody got breezy to work with an ATI X850 XT card with 3d acceleration?11:09
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wrabbitlampshade, nope.. just a normal dvd11:09
jrattner1Where is the torrent for downloading i386, i cant locate a link due to high traffic on the web site11:09
jas_crimsun: Sorry I messed up did you say something to me in the last ohh 5-10 minutes?11:09
miksuand back to standard user?11:09
wrabbitKnorrie, where is the .vob file?  Can't find the dvd rom folde11:09
wrabbitr11:09
Crubestuart_ for you too this is the ONLY guide that workder for my ati card http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455711:09
rkdIs it possible to retheme the colour of the desktop background and the little "ubuntu" box, the ones that come up between logging in with gdm and having the desktop background image loaded?11:09
ubuntu__dwl122 please11:09
lancer285Hey guys, I can't see any fonts on websites w/ Firefox after upgrading to Breezy11:09
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GuennarrHello Crube, thanks! I just installed 5.10, chose a low graphics resolution (1024 * 768, the default value), but there are just flashing colours after the reboot.11:10
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ryQuestion, does the new 5.10 release support MP311:10
lampshadewrabbit:  hrmmmmmm  I've seen VLC not work once before randomly on a DVD...  does anyone know does Totem play dvd's I dont remember?  I would see if you can play it with totem if you have that installed?  Usually VLC works perfectly11:10
lancer285Well, I can't see any fonts in Firefox menus or anything either11:10
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jrattner1Where is the torrent for downloading i38611:10
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sandollarry nope11:10
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jas_crimsun: Sorry I messed up did you say something to me in the last ohh 5-10 minutes?11:11
wrabbitlampshade, I've been trying to get the dvd working for the past 13 hours.  Totem won't play em.  I'mj trying alternatives11:11
lampshadethat's really weird...11:11
ubuntu__dwl122 please --------------------------------------????????????????11:11
wrabbitjust installed all the multimedia codecs so it should work :(11:11
miksuso to compile, what file should i present to imake11:11
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stuart_thanks Crube, I'll try it out :)11:11
barnes_What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)11:11
dooglusjrattner1: ftp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent11:11
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MrMaDSeNdammit .. only 60 Hz refresh rate.... how that might be11:11
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jrattner1dooglus, thank you11:11
karjalaHi, I just learned about Ubuntu... I use Debian... Why do they say Ubuntu is targeted towards desktop  users? Is it not as good as debian for server uses for some reason?11:11
dooglusjrattner1: that's install, not live...11:11
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Knorriewrabbit: somewhere in /media?11:11
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hajiki!tell hajiki about xinerama11:12
sunsunhi how do i get firefox to download more than 2 files at a time.  when i right click after starting 2 downloads it pauses before showing me the window11:12
nderjm_Anyone with an HP OmniBook 600 by any chance :|11:12
concept10wrabbit, what are you using totem-gstreamer?11:12
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jrattner1dooglus, sounds good, is it running quick?11:12
wrabbitconcept10, was.. then totem xine and neither work11:12
ubuntu__wie geht denn nun wlan mit dlink und dwl122, bitttttttttttee ???????11:12
lampshadekarjala:  I would say they say it is more targeted for desktop users for the little things like automount, etc.  I mean Debian can do that, but Ubuntu does it automatically11:12
ryanyone try the new openSuse release11:12
jrattner1wrabbit, try mplayer + libdvdread11:12
hajiki!xinerama11:12
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, hajiki11:12
Knorriesunsun: probably it's a limit set by the server11:12
_jasonsunsun:  look at the settings in "about:config" that limit your max-connections11:12
concept10ubuntu__, wiki.ubuntu.com11:12
barnes_What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)11:12
Daveyinfernall, almost! Screens are on the wrong side, will just swap the plugs around :)11:12
GuennarrAnybody read what I said? I have that small problem, that I do not see any graphical interface after installation, just flashing colours. X-Server?!11:13
dooglussunsun: set network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server11:13
dooglussunsun: (in about:config)11:13
Daveyinfernall, though is it possible to get 3D accelleration?11:13
karjalalampshade: so it's not worse than debian as a server?11:13
ubuntu__wlan dwl122 ######################11:13
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MrMaDSeNanyone know to apt ati gfx drivers?11:14
[_NimroD_] i have a problem with my sound. on the session start screen starts a sound like a drumb and never stops, this is giving me problems... can anyone help me??11:14
concept10karjala, ubuntu uses newer packages,11:14
Knorriekarjala: yes it is11:14
dooglussunsun: I think I might go to #firefox and ask a few ubuntu questions in a bit.  you coming?11:14
jrattner1MrMaDSeN, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28fgl%2911:14
StarKruzrwooooo, Breezy is out!11:14
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crimsunjas_: echo $LANG11:14
concept10ubuntu__, dont keep repeating your questions please goto the wiki, the information is there11:14
miksuI am a bit confused about compiling. got the adom-sage source in dir, but i don't know the command to compile..makefile is present11:14
karjalaKnorrie: in what way is it worse? i'm considering using it...11:14
lampshadekarjala:  Telly you the truth I've never used it as a server... but I'm not a hardcore serverer so you might be talking to the wrong guy for details on it.  Like I said it just seems like they made it to be a nice desktop experience for desktop users.  Warm brown colors, OpenOffice and other things ready to go, etc11:14
dooglusjrattner1: it's not running quick for me, but I can't port-forward 688111:14
teloniri need to download multiple torrents from console .. which prog can do it ?11:14
jas_crimsun: echo $LANG?11:14
Knorriekarjala: ubuntu is like debian unstable11:15
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[_NimroD_] i have a problem with my sound. on the session start screen starts a sound like a drumb and never stops, this is giving me problems... can anyone help me??11:15
jrattner1douglus im only getting 1.14K why would port fowarding help?11:15
horzavirgule: is fluxbox supose to be so laggy in the start?11:15
Knorriekarjala: they put all things in it as soons as possible11:15
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GuennarrCan anyone help me? I just tried to install Ubuntu 5.10, and X-Server completely screwed up! Second installation attempt, still just flashing colours, no log-in screen!!!11:15
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jas_crimsun: It says en_US.UTF-811:15
horzavirgule, cant do anything11:15
Knorriekarjala: debian just works, always11:15
lampshadebut don't take unstable to mean actually unstable I mean crap Nasa actually uses Ubuntu11:15
karjalaKnorrie: I see... Thank you. I'll use it as a server.11:15
jrattner1Wow this room is like mayhem today, i never seen it so crazy11:15
jrattner1channel11:15
MrMaDSeNOMG servers are occupied :D11:15
jrattner1: )11:15
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GuennarrCan anyone help me? I just tried to install Ubuntu 5.10, and X-Server completely screwed up! Second installation attempt, still just flashing colours, no log-in screen!!!11:15
ryexit11:16
StarKruzr_NimroD_ it sounds like there is a potential for your sound driver to be installed incorrectly.11:16
concept10double the people in here today11:16
Knorriekarjala: use 'it'? what? :)11:16
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gelbergKnorrie, it's not quite like debian unstable. unstable isn't designed to be designed to be used by clueless users :)11:16
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[_NimroD_] StarKruzr: i've installed it 5 times... the problem never disappear11:16
sunsundooglus thanks alot11:16
GuennarrCan anyone help me? I just tried to install Ubuntu 5.10, and X-Server completely screwed up! Second installation attempt, still just flashing colours, no log-in screen!!!11:16
gelberghmm11:16
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gelbergs/designed to be//11:16
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gelberg!tell Guennarr about repeat11:16
crimsunjas_: and what is the precise command you're typing in?11:17
lampshadelols11:17
_jasonwho was having font problems?11:17
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StarKruzr[_NimroD_] , have you looked through the results from dmesg at all?11:17
atila_sendilhi and Happy Breezy Badger to all :-)11:17
rodietzehi! I've shipped 40 ubuntu cds, do I need to pay something?11:17
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atila_sendilrodietze, nothing11:17
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felos_Is anyone else getting errors when trying add Universe respositories in Breezy?11:18
jrattner1I wonder why ubuntu uses such weird names :  )11:18
Guennarr@ gelberg: maybe someone can give an answer or at least a tip where to find one? I do not even see gnome on my sreen after installation.11:18
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jas_crimsun: mount -o loop DIABLO 2 PLAY CD.iso /mnt/diablo11:18
rodietzeatila cool!! so I'll try to pas it to everybody around!!!! But are you sure? nor the chipping coast?11:18
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lancer285crimsun, whats the link for the paste dump?11:18
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rodietzeshipping11:18
atila_sendiljrattner1, they are not actually final product names; just project codes :-) but still they are more fun than ordinary "serious" names for me11:18
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jrattner1atila_sendil, thats true :  )11:19
gelbergGuennarr, sorry, i'm a debian man. all i can suggest is as root, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, /etc/init.d/<your display manager> restart11:19
atila_sendilrodietze, they are doing it for absolutely free and better ask for more amount in the first place to give everyone :-)11:19
crimsunlancer285: paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:19
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crimsunjas_: aha!11:19
tristanmikeGuennarr, that's sa good place to start, just add "sudo" infront of the command11:19
jas_crimsun: What?11:19
jrattner1Guennarr, do what gelberg told you it will work11:19
StarKruzrdoes anyone know whether or not Ubuntu saves the kernel configuration file that it creates at install?  I need to do some kernel hacking work.11:19
atila_sendilrodietze, I had ordered just 10 for 5.04 and they were all gone in a few days11:19
gelbergGuennarr, the point about repeating is if someone was going to help, they would anyway whether you repeat or not :)11:19
crimsunjas_: you need to put the filename in double quotes because it has spaces.11:19
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GuennarrThank you, Gelberg and tristanmike, I will try that!11:20
rodietzewow!! man I love Ubuntu!!!!!! all my friends will too, and I'll become a Ubuntu developer someday :)11:20
Knorriegelberg: yes, and I'm glad that clueless users use ubuntu on desktop and don't set up servers with debian :P11:20
tristanmikeGuennarr, what type of video do you have?11:20
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gelbergKnorrie, :)11:20
FelosIs anyone else getting errors trying to add the Universe repo in Ubuntu?11:20
crimsunFelos: see the topic11:20
DaveyHUzzah! Breezy installed :)11:20
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atila_sendilKnorrie, well after some time with ubuntu they would be able to do that too11:20
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[_NimroD_] StarKruzr: the results of what? i've tried disabling the sound server without results... the drumb keeps going on and on11:20
Feloscrimsun, is that the reason for it? :-P11:20
lancer285crimsun, I have the output of amixer at : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/304411:20
mwright1nightAnyone here know about edubuntu11:21
annexjrattner1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth , look at the last comment for insight into the naming scheme.  The wiki answers everything ;-)11:21
gelbergKnorrie, this is a big day for me. after a long time laughing at debian-based distros, i installed one for my parents.  ;)11:21
mstefanusA question: A fresh installed mysql on Ubuntu 5.10 says error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' Anyone can help?11:21
mwright1nightThe wiki knows all or was that Google?11:21
Knorriegelberg: o/~ ;-)11:21
jas_crimsun: so do it like this? 'mount -o loop "DIABLO 2 PLAY CD.iso" /mnt/diablo'11:21
mwright1nightEdbubuntu familiarity anyone ?11:21
miksusudo chown username /home/user/work can i use this to give myself a root-priviliged folder for tasks11:21
XenguyAfter upgrading Hoary->Breezy via apt-get dist-upgrade, I am getting this error on the (gdm?) login screen:  "Configuration is not correct.  The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.  Please fix your configuration." How can I fix the error above?11:21
GuennarrSorry for the break: I just wrote down the command...11:21
atila_sendilmwright1night, not me11:21
gelbergmstefanus, this is a bug in debian, don't know if it applies here. check http://bugs.debian.org/mysql-server. think it's to do with old_passwords option in my.cnf11:21
GuennarrI have a Geforce 6800 GT.11:22
_jasonXenguy:  I ahd that error as well11:22
StarKruzr[_NimroD_] , so you stopped it from starting up in the first place?  at boot?11:22
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_jasonXenguy:  one sec while I remember what file had to be changed11:22
lancer285can anyone help me get my sound working? everything is plugged in right, but it stopped working after a reboot. the comp THINKS its working, it plays music files, but no sound.11:22
mstefanusgelberg: that option doesnt exist anymore11:22
Xenguy_jason: thanks a lot11:22
[_NimroD_] StarKruzr: no.. i can't stop it, that's the problem11:22
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Knorrieatila_sendil: I was using debian (no X) for years on servers before using linux on the desktop, this summer I began to use ubuntu, and only after a day I discovered there were graphical configuration tools :P11:22
gelbergmstefanus, perhaps i'm mixing up bugs. that was one. server wouldn't start for reason you describe :)11:22
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GuennarrI already met problems in SUSE 10.0 (just works after startx from command line) and in Kanotix (in higher resolutions). I hoped that Ubuntu's excellent hw support would prevent any such problems... :(11:23
wrabbitARG! vlc doesn't work11:23
wrabbitno idea why11:23
Knorrieatila_sendil: lalaa terminal lala :)11:23
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tristanmikeGuennarr, odd, nvidia should be no problem, when picking driver, try the "nv" one or "vesa" I believe11:23
wrabbitcould it be the laptop itself?11:23
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mwright1nightI want to know about Teaacherspet11:23
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crimsunjas_: yes11:23
jas_crimsun: Ahhh Thank you so much!11:23
StarKruzrsorry [_NimroD_]  we've exhausted the limits of my experience.11:23
valzorsomeone knows this message error : Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)11:23
DaveyOK, all my windows are odd11:23
[216] Shadeytime to install Ubuntu 5.10 w00t w00t w00t!!!11:23
jas_crimsun: It worked I appriciate that so much!11:23
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SupIAmMikegaw breezy doesnt come with gcc 3.411:23
mstefanusgelberg: correct, this is a similar problem, but that option is not in my.cnf file11:23
atila_sendilKnorrie, lol but this led you learning the basics better eh ? still for people "switching" (me for one) ubuntu just does it right11:23
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SupIAmMikebut cisco vpnclient requires it11:23
[_NimroD_] StarKruzr: its ok.. thanks anyway :)11:24
SupIAmMikeshould i get gcc 3.4 and install cisco vpnclient or should i move over to vpnc11:24
Knorrieatila_sendil: true!11:24
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gelbergmstefanus, if you get no joy, do check the debian bugs. it does ring a bell, but there's a lot of bugs that ring a bell11:24
shadeofgreyhi everybody11:24
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Daveyit looks like all the windows are inside other windows, so all the rounded corners, have a background behind the curve and then a square corner...11:24
SupermangCan anyone help me with this permissions problem? I have my windows partition in the fstab with the "user" option, but I am still unable to view the partition as a regular user in Nautilus11:24
GuennarrHhhhmmm... I just tried the default settings, I did not choose any drivers so far. So I should try a manual installation?11:24
Daveyand all my windows are going black when I min/maximize them11:24
_jasonXenguy:  you want to backup your current /etc/gmd/gmd.conf and then replace it with /etc/gmd/factory-gdm.conf11:24
valzorsomeone knows this message error : Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)11:24
Daveyand when I alt+tab11:24
Daveywhat I missing?11:24
gelbergSupermang, man mount. check out the uid / gid (i think) options11:25
rkdWhat's the technical term for the little "ubuntu" box that comes up while loading GNOME and gives information about nautilus etc. having loaded?11:25
StarKruzrdoes anyone know whether or not Ubuntu saves the kernel configuration file that it creates at install?  I need to do some kernel hacking work.  basically I want to use the kernel configuration that ubuntu creates to compile my own kernel (modulo some changes that I apply, but with everything else the same).11:25
XsXsTake my last trip to Wal-Mart. Was buying milk when an older woman, probably 50+, came up and asked my wife and I if we would rather have some fresh from the source and them whipped out her lift tit and waved it at us. We sttod there stunned. I mean WTF? Sure Wal-Mart is always full of weirdos, but I've never had anyone wave their tit at me in the middle of a store before.11:25
Supermanggelberg: will do11:25
Xenguy_jason: thank you very much - I will try that11:25
[216] Shadeyeveryone say w00t w00t! if you love Ubuntu!!11:25
wrabbitmeh11:25
atila_sendilKnorrie, I had tried linux in the past many times but just for myself and nothing to do with job so ... I could only start with ubuntu now I have linux all over the house and different distros too :-)11:25
[216] Shadeymeh!?11:25
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lancer285I love it when it works11:25
[216] Shadeyw00t w00t!11:25
gelbergdo people still say w00t?11:25
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lampshadelol11:26
[216] Shadeyi do, i'm bringing it back, just like parichute pants!11:26
StarKruzr(parachute)11:26
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[216] Shadeydamnet =(11:26
GuennarrTristanMike: Can I switch drivers after installation, too, or can I switch drivers only by a re-installation?11:26
shadeofgreywhats the general consensus concerning the AMD64 version of breezy?11:26
StarKruzr(dammit)11:26
mstefanusAnyone else have an idea why mysql wont start?11:26
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feugan3333Hi all. How would I find out which dns server I am currently using. On Windows it can be done with ipconfig /all. How can I do the same on ubuntu?11:26
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tristanmikeno, should be able to, the same command, sudo dpkg-reco..... should do the same thing, but you might want to get the updated drivers in, instead of the default ones11:27
[216] Shadeydammit!! =(11:27
StarKruzrthere we go :)11:27
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[216] Shadeyone day i shall learn to spell!11:27
gelbergfeugan3333, cat /etc/resolv.conf11:27
shadeofgreyis it worth using?  is it robust enough to be used as a main distribution imnstallation?  or is it still basically an enthusiast only type of deal?11:27
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[216] Shadeyw00t w00t!! =D11:27
[TvM] i give all permissions to a file... why i get this error? ioctl(SIOCSIFLAGS) failed: Permission denied11:27
KerrHi, i reccomended ubunt to a friend of mine a few days ago. she has via unichrome onboard graphics; on first boot she got into x fine, second boot; the display was 'wobbly', third she is in a terminal window. I googled out http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~glaweh/debian/ for unichrome debs for her, but habing a geforce4 myself have no idea what else to do. Are any of the files there what she needs? if they are, what would she install?11:27
miksunever even thought that anb11:27
davroWhat is wOOts, sorry i do not buy into that Obsesive-compulsive Disorder called love11:27
feugan3333gelberg, thanks11:27
crimsunmstefanus: did you edit the conffile? Did you set a root passwd for the mysqld?11:27
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Kerrsorry for being so.. eh, clueless ;.;11:27
miksunever even thought that an OS could be this powerful11:27
tristanmikeGuennarr, in my very limited knowledge11:27
Kerrubuntu^11:27
shadeofgrey...i understand that the driver support in the hoary release of amd64 blew rancid ardvark balls?11:27
StarKruzr... rancid aardvark balls...11:27
StarKruzrwow11:27
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TylerDurdenwhen i try to install the ati drivers everything seems fine, no errors, but in fglrx-install.log it says this [Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.11:28
TylerDurden[Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.11:28
TylerDurden[Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.11:28
atila_sendilKerr, unichrome drivers just work :-)11:28
GuennarrOk. I will try that. Thanks for now!11:28
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miksunow i got my private folder with root priviledges =)11:28
mstefanuscrimsun: like what the guide said, but it says it could not find mysqld.sock and then dies11:28
tristanmikehope it works for you Guennarr11:28
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shadeofgreystar:  yeah..  i write for a living, so ...  colorful language is my meal ticket11:28
GuennarrThanks! I will report! ;-)11:28
Kerratila_sendil: her xorg conf lists that she's using the 'via' driver, not unichrome.11:28
crimsunTylerDurden: did you install gcc-3.4 and linux-headers-$(uname -r)?11:28
TFPwhy is it, that when i run xmms there are no other system sounds available?11:29
TylerDurdeni dont think i installed gcc-3.4 nor linux headers11:29
feugan3333mstefanus: did you install the ubuntu mysql package?11:29
rodietzeOH I've forgot to ask you guys, I have a winmodem agere/lucente at home, but I need the kernel-sources, but I can't find the kernel-source for Hoary, the 2.6.10-511:29
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Lickermy Ubuntu is CORRUPT!11:29
TylerDurdenill try that11:29
atila_sendilKerr, have you followed any of the guides on the forums to install specific unichrome drivers from the project ?11:29
Kerratila_sendil: i use debian etch and xfree, so i'm really lost.11:29
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BockBilboLicker, mine too, doesnt pay taxes11:29
BockBilboxDD11:29
feugan3333My goverment is corrupt!11:29
LickerNOO!!11:29
Licker:/11:29
[TvM] i give all permissions to a file... why i get this error? ioctl(SIOCSIFLAGS) failed: Permission denied.11:29
kanevalaanyway i can get admin access back after removing myself from admins/sudo group?11:29
mstefanusfeugan3333: apt-get install mysql-server11:29
BockBilbolol11:29
atila_sendilfeugan3333, lol11:29
crimsunTylerDurden: then you need build-essential, gcc-3.4, and linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:29
Kerratila_sendil: It's not me, and her boxen is firewalled by her bro so i can't ssh in and do it for her.11:29
crimsunrodietze: see what I just told TylerDurden11:29
TylerDurdenso i include the $ crimsun ?11:29
Lickerno but really my apt-get is messed up11:30
feugan3333mstefanus: yes11:30
crimsunTylerDurden: exactly11:30
StarKruzrdoes anyone know whether or not Ubuntu saves the kernel configuration file that it creates at install?  I need to do some kernel hacking work.  basically I want to use the kernel configuration that ubuntu creates to compile my own kernel (modulo some changes that I apply, but with everything else the same).11:30
lampshadeKerr:  It isn't too big of a difference.  I'm a linux noob and I went from Debian, to Ubuntu fine.  (Arch linux might have shown up in the middle I can't quite remember )11:30
shadeofgreyhey does ANYBODY know where i might fund officvial transcripts of all the presidents speeches about iraq and sept. 11th?11:30
mattackanyone install breezy on a DELL Optiplex GX520?11:30
crimsunTylerDurden: exactly $(uname -r)11:30
rodietzewhat  is tok11:30
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Supermanggelberg: thanks that did it11:30
rodietzeoops, OK :)11:30
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TylerDurdenoh ok crimsun thanks im gonna try that11:30
shadeofgreyi need them for research11:30
gelbergStarKruzr, in debian it would be in /boot/config<whatever>11:30
eduardoHey folks, silly little question. When ubuntu reboots after the install on its own power the first time, it craps out on my ethernet card. When I reboot again and force it to use a startup config with acpi=off it works. But then it just leaves me at the login prompt and doesn't bother installing anything else.11:30
eduardoWhat do I do?11:30
Xenguy_jason: rebooting now to see if that worked11:30
_jasonXenguy:  k11:30
kanevalaanyway i can get admin access back after removing myself from admins/sudo group?11:30
Kerratila_sendil: I noticed sone instructiosn that were experimental, but it would be unfair to install experimental software on someone elses pc.11:30
mzelemhi, could someone tell me were the xconfig file is in kubuntu, and if there is a graphical x-configurator?11:30
atila_sendilKerr, oops... tough job then. I am also bit new too but after reading the forums (searching for unichrome) and loading the files from the unichrome project site I got my mini itx box with drivers11:30
gelbergSupermang, great11:30
Xenguy_jason: BTW, how did you locate the workaround?11:30
Kerratila_sendil: 's why i sniffed out the debs.11:30
aquariusIs a smart upgrade recommended for upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10?11:31
mattacki have one at work and don't want to have too much downtime11:31
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StarKruzrgelberg: do you have Ubuntu installed on a machine now?11:31
miksua general question. if my bios can't save data when my machine is not powered up, is this malfunction or low battery power11:31
StarKruzri.e. can you check for me?11:31
atila_sendilKerr, I had also trid out the .deb's first but no worky :-(11:31
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lampshadeStarKruzr:  I wish I knew the answer to your question because I often wonder that myself... :-/11:31
_jasonXenguy:  during the isntall it prompted me if I wanted to replace that file... i made a note of it and chose default which was to leave it alone... when that error popped up I figured it was because of that11:31
gelbergStarKruzr, it's there11:31
atila_sendilKerr, and if it is an office PC better not try too hard ?11:31
StarKruzrgelberg: you da man11:31
valzorsomeone knows this message error : Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)11:31
StarKruzrgelberg: How do I tell make to use that file when recompiling my kernel?11:31
Xenguy_jason: cool, OK let's see if it works for me11:32
Kerratila_sendil: yea, i downloaded unichrome-X-r30.tar.gz and had a look at it. no INSTALL or README file and what inctructions i could find were for xfree. :-/11:32
Kerri don't know what to do with the file, and i'm sure she'd know even less.11:32
Kerrinstructions^11:32
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QMarioWhy is the server so slow?11:32
rodietzebut what's the diference between the linux-headers and kernle-headers? and the same for linux-source kernel-source ... linux-image  kernle-image ?11:32
SupermangAnyone know another mirror of the essential codecs for mplayer besides their site? it seems to be down11:33
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atila_sendilKerr, have you searched ubuntuforums.org for unichrome ? I read and followed them what you downloaded is not just to directly  install11:33
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miksuqmario got to 60 % in about 4 hours..just be patient11:33
tristanmikeQMario, see /topic11:33
Kerratila_sendil: she was using redhat9 ~.~ it was horrible.11:33
gelbergStarKruzr, (again i'm not an ubuntu guru) cp <file> /usr/src/kernel-source<whatever>.  make oldconfig. make menuconfig. make-kpkg <whatever>11:33
_jasonSupermang:  are you just looking for w32codecs?11:33
bloodnikHi, what's that Flash maker called and where can one find it? Ta11:33
Supermangyep11:33
barnes_What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)11:33
Kerratila_sendil: cann't say i've searched too hard11:33
mstefanusfeugan3333 That is what I did...I did not install from source11:33
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StarKruzrmake OLDCONFIG11:33
StarKruzraha11:33
gelberg!tell Supermang about marillat11:33
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StarKruzrsexcellent11:33
atila_sendilKerr, argh RedHat was the choice (when it was Red Hat5 or so) but now there is ubuntu :-)11:33
_jason!tell Supermang about w32codecs11:33
Supermang_jason, thanks11:34
miksubarnes if you got the cash, get buffalo airstation + buffalo usb card + 2 DA antennas...pretty much the perfect setup11:34
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atila_sendilKerr, all I can suggest more is to search the forums for "unichrome" and read all you get from there (at least that is what I did and worked for me)11:34
gelbergStarKruzr, NB when you copy the config file to the source dir, name it .config.11:34
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Supermangdoh it leads to the same URL11:34
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foscohi11:34
flipyhow can I disable boot daemons?11:34
_jasonSupermang:  oh11:34
[TvM] i give all permissions to a file... why i get this error? ioctl(SIOCSIFLAGS) failed: Permission denied..11:35
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foscoanyone knows why we have CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y in the kernel configuration?11:35
feugan3333mstefanus: try restarting the deamon: /etc/init.d/mysqld restart    and then see if there are any errors.11:35
StarKruzrgelberg: thank you.11:35
QMarioMiksu? Is that really you?11:35
_jasonSupermang:  I think I had an old one saved somewhere let me see if it is still up11:35
foscothat leads to cdroms on PIO mode and (for example) dvd reading very slow?11:35
QMarioI haven't heard from you in a while?11:35
QMarioWhat's going on?11:35
miksuqmario say what?11:35
lampshadefosco:  umm so that it does y or yes for IDE DMA on the disk?11:35
miksuqmario you are hermo? or what?11:35
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foscolampshade: this set D11:36
foscolampshade: this set DMA for disks only11:36
mstefanusfeugan3333: I did that so many times... this is what it says Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.11:36
mstefanus        Please take a look at the syslog.11:36
mstefanus/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed11:36
mstefanuserror: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'11:36
mstefanusCheck that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!11:36
westfallcan someone tell me if this is right? i'm trying to mount my two windows partitions.11:36
westfall/dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222  0 011:36
westfall/dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222  0 011:36
foscolampshade: and cdroms on PIO mode11:36
QMarioMiksu, hermo?11:36
QMarioMstefanus, pastebin please. :)11:36
miksuqmario just asked if you are some friend i know?11:36
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mstefanusQMario: sorry11:36
doogluswestfall: if you want to mount them both at the same time you'll be needing two different mount points in /media11:36
atila_sendiloops; Simpsons on TV :-) bye all; for now . . .11:36
dooglusyou can't use /media/windows for both of them11:36
_jasonSupermang:  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/11:37
QMarioMstefanus, it's okay. :)11:37
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foscothis is really a problem for a new user :\11:37
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lancer285I'm still having problems w/ my sound guys.11:37
miksuqmario i mean if you are finnish etc11:37
Supermang_jason, thanks!11:37
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QMarioMiksu, no...11:37
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miksuqmario last night?11:37
mwright1nightwhat isa jigdo download?11:37
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ChadzaCan anyone reccomend a screen shot utility?11:38
TylerDurdencrimsun, i downloaded those, but its still set on mesa :(11:38
miksuqmario how are we acquainted11:38
mwright1nightis this a similair protocol to bittorrent11:38
QMarioMiksu, huh?11:38
lampshadefosco:  what was the question again?  I would assume you would want DMA turned on as it is faster?  but I don't understand for sure11:38
lancer285My sound stopped working after the upgrade.11:38
miksuqmario god, where do i know you from ???11:38
QMarioMiksu, I have just talked to you over #Ubuntu. That's all. :)11:38
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lampshademwright1night:  No jigdo let's you assemble your own kinda cd from all the packages available.  Not like bittorrent.  Bitorrent just helps you get the cd faster by downloading it from others who are downloading it.11:38
miksuqmario all right well i have been sleeping..suffering from insomnia at night11:38
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miksuqmario beginning to get good with ubuntu btw =)11:39
foscolampshade: that's it, using dma dor disks and cdroms is the default in the linux kernel, and dns for cdroms is needed for playgind dvd for examples)11:39
QMarioHee. :)11:39
SQFreakI wish there was a way to torrentify apt.11:39
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foscolampshade: I wonder why this option is actived on ubuntu kernels, since ubuntu wants to be used on desktops iirc11:40
miksuqmario so have you been using it for long ?11:40
stuart_Crube, I went through that ati graphics card how-to without succes... do you know of anyone getting it to work on amd64?11:40
flipyis there any graphical interface to edit the startup daemons?11:40
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ubuntuhello all11:40
QMarioMiksu, about < 1 year.11:41
Xenguy_jason: worked! Thanks, gotta jet :-)11:41
foscoflipy: yes11:41
QMarioMaybe 8 months.11:41
Kerrdoes breezy have unichrome support that 'just works'?11:41
ubuntuhow do i using the keyboard switch the virtual desktop.. the man only says to use the mouse :(11:41
aquariusIs a smart upgrade recommended for upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10?11:41
miksuqmario 2 weeks :)11:41
foscoflipy: System -> Admninistration -> Services11:41
QMarioMiksu, wow.11:41
nderjmAnyone got Breezy working on an ATI Rage Mobility P/M?11:41
miksuqmario hehe11:41
feugan3333mstefanus: I don't have mysql installed, but I'm installing now. So maybe I'll be able to help maybe not :-)11:41
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_jasonXenguy:  that's great, enjoy breezy11:42
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miksuqmario maybe we should give some chat-space to ubuntu help talk11:42
flipyfosco: that's just for "some" daemons... how can I stop hp server print, cup, mdadm-raid, mdadm, ...?11:42
ubuntuhow do i using the keyboard switch the virtual desktop.. the man only says to use the mouse :(11:42
Crubestuart_ did you try the install part with your xserver not running11:42
Chadza ubuntu Crtl + Alt + Left or Right11:42
QMarioMiksu, I agree. :-D11:42
QMarioHow long did it take for you guys to upgrade to Breezy?11:42
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hihi_ #ubuntu-es11:42
QMario!Breezy11:42
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:42
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foscoflipy: hmm, I see cupsys in the list11:43
TylerDurdenwow, i just cant get 3d to work11:43
TylerDurdenits set on mesa. i installed the ati drivers and all11:43
aquariusAh, on thewiki. I looked on the support site but couldn't find much about upgrading.11:43
stuart_Crube, yes, I tried out some different configurations with no luck... 2d works fine with the fglrx driver, but fglrxinfo keeps saying "MesaGL"11:43
dreameenwhy is main security hoary repo not working?11:44
ethan-allisonis there any reason not to upgrade to Breezy?11:44
ethan-allisondreameen: heavy traffic from the new release11:44
dreameenokie11:44
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stuart_TylerDurden, same problem here, pay attention to what Crube is saying ;)11:44
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foscolampshade: you see? :)11:44
mstefanusfeugan3333: Thanks, I hope you can... it is 5.10, PPC version11:44
ethan-allisondreameen: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive11:44
TylerDurdenstuart_, it worked fine on the pre release i dont get it11:44
TylerDurdennow it just wont work and says mesa11:45
davroQMario: proberly took me about 2 hours to download burn cd, reinstall not upgrade on laptop 1.4m 1gig ram, but i did remove the dual boot, and reclaim the hard disk from windows.11:45
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QMarioI wonder how long it would take for a person using dial-up?11:45
stuart_TylerDurden, you might want to check out this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455711:45
QMarioDavro, heh. Windows.11:45
ChousukeQMario: A long, long time11:45
TylerDurdeni tried that stuart_ it didnt work11:45
ChousukeComputers aren't really useful nowadays with a dialup.11:45
stuart_TylerDurden, ok, I didn't get around to trying out the prerelease... are you using "ati" or "fglrx" driver?11:45
Crubestuart_ I tried to get my ati drivers working for something like a week. I tried a dozen guides, and the only one that worked was that.11:46
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Chousukeunless you never connect to the internet. :/11:46
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TylerDurdeni tried both, on the pre release i used ati and it worked fine11:46
Supermangif you still have dialup i feel sorry for you11:46
feugan3333Ubuntu is not usefull with a dialup11:46
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davromight take days on a dial up and i don't think i could take it when the time come to run md5sum11:46
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Chousukefeugan3333: true. :/11:46
stuart_TylerDurden, ok, what graphics card are you using?11:46
Guimauve2I have a quick question : how do I update my Ubuntu 5.04 system to a Ubuntu 5.10 system using apt-get?11:46
TylerDurdenstuart_, 920011:46
ChousukeThough windows isn't much better.11:46
feugan3333debian a bit better with lots of packages on cd11:47
stuart_Crube, ok, thanks for the assistance :)11:47
feugan3333better for dialup that is11:47
Chousukecraploads of security updates to install.11:47
_jasonGuimauve2:  /topic11:47
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ethan-allisonChousuke: and security updates for the security updates ;)11:47
Guimauve2thx11:47
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Chousukeethan-allison: it happens.11:48
DarthFrogGuimauve2: change "hoary" to "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list.  Then "apt-get updated && apt-get dist-upgrade"11:48
ethan-allisons/updated/update11:48
_jason!tell Guimauve2 about breezy11:48
DarthFrogethan-allison: Tnx. :-)11:48
Crubestuart_ by the way, after installing the driver when xserver was shut down, did you restart xserver with the "xserver" command?11:48
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ethan-allisonDarthFrog: yup :-D11:48
dreameenso, how should my security repo entry in sources.list look like?11:49
stuart_Crube, no, I just restarted gdm. It worked for getting X to work in the first place, but now I start sensing it might not completely reload X or how?11:49
DarthFrogBreezy breaks VMWare, BTW.  Due to using a different gcc to compile the kernel (3.4.5) than is installed on the system (4.0).11:50
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stuart_TylerDurden, ok, I have never got my X850 to work on linux with the fglrx driver before breezy, so seems like you're ahead of me11:50
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dmkDarthFrog, install gcc-3.4 and either use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 or11:50
frank23DarthFrog: you can still use vmware11:50
DarthFrogdmk: Tried that, no go.11:51
TylerDurdenstuart_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66334&highlight=ati+guide11:51
frank23DarthFrog: listen to dmk ;-)11:51
DarthFrogfrank23: How did you do it?11:51
TylerDurdeni did a part of that and im going to try11:51
dmkDarthFrog, remove the symlink for gcc and add one to from gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 instead of to gcc-4.011:51
Supermangwhats the easiet way to get java working in firefox?11:51
Crubestuart_ I suggest trying to do the whole thing by shutting down x with ctrl+alt+backspace, then follow the guide, then use the "xserver" command to start it again.11:51
DarthFrogdmk: Been there, done that.11:51
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DarthFrogdmk: Did it work for you?11:51
dmkDarthFrog, with the symlink?11:51
DarthFrogdmk: Either.11:52
frank23DarthFrog: just export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and run the configuration script for vmware again11:52
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dmkDarthFrog, never used it mate but if its gcc-4.0 thats the problem and export CC wont work changing the symlink for gcc to gcc-3.4 will11:52
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DarthFrogfrank23: I installed gcc-3.4 and went the symlink route.  Didn't work.  The kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4.5 and only 3.4.4 is in the repos.11:53
a_monkeycan all the people reading this right now on breezy that has bitmap fonts enabled and working please acknowledge it to me11:53
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a_monkeyexample11:53
feugan3333Supermang: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#q2.211:53
a_monkeya_monkey: i do!11:53
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EppuDarthFrog: you may also need to grab http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update94.tar.gz and use the runme script from there, instead of vmware configure11:53
Efwisif I did a clean install of 5.10 would I still have to wait for all the upgrade packages to be installed?11:53
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dmkyou on breezy?11:54
frank23DarthFrog: It work for me by using export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.411:54
Guimauve2I think it'll be working (the update).  I tried the first time but I had forgotten the replace "hoary" to "breezy" at two places.11:54
dreameenwhat is the OO version in the new release11:54
dreameenis it RC2?#11:54
stuart_Crube, ok, will do that, thank you very much11:54
rjordanhttp://www.hai2u.com/11:54
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dmkfrank23, what version of gcc-3.4 to you have then?11:54
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anthonyHey, I was wondering what plug-ins (packages) I need to install in order to play embedded wmv files and DVDs using totem?11:55
frank23dmk: gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)11:55
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madsen_use VLC instead11:55
DarthFrogEppu: Thanks.  I'll try that.11:55
dmkfrank23, cheers mate - thats the current one11:55
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eduardohey so I just installed Ubuntu. How do I start X? Gnome? KDE? Or none of that is installed by default?11:56
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dmkIIRC anyway11:56
_jasonmadsen_:  why is vlc's gui umm "crappy looking" in the latest update?11:56
jsubl2anthony: mplayer works best for me but you have to room the totem plugins manually.. sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer11:56
esacis it possible to resize an ext3 partition ?11:56
EppuDarthFrog: You need the CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 stuff with it too. But the update fixes problems with networking on breezy, etc.11:56
anthonymadsen_: I tried using VLC but it doesn't work, or was that comment directed at me?11:56
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anthonyjsubl2: Thank you, does mplayer supports DVD playing as well?11:56
Crubeeduardo they usually start automatically. What happens when you start your computer?11:56
QMario!DVD11:56
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras11:56
jsubl2anthony: yeah but you have to get the libdvdcss i think it is11:56
eduardoCrube, I get to the text login prompt11:57
QMario!hoary-extras11:57
ubotuit has been said that hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted11:57
frank23anthony: mplayer support dvd playing but not the dvd menus11:57
_jasonQMario:  that's for hoary11:57
Crubeeduardo have you tried "gdm"11:57
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anthonyfrank23 and jsubl2: Thanks.11:57
jeff303who here plays Warcraft 3 on Battle.net using Cedega?11:57
eduardogdm command not found11:57
frank23_jason: you can still use hoary-extras with breezy11:57
feugan3333jeff303: I don't, but I'd like to know how it runs?11:58
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_jasonfrank23:  oh... sorry then11:58
eduardoCrube: gdm is not found11:58
jeff303feugan3333: well so far it's pretty good for me11:58
Crubeeduardo umm... Uh... It -should- be found if you installed ubuntu normally.11:58
weezerhola a todos11:58
DarthFrogdmk: W00t!  VMWare is working now!  :-)11:58
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jeff303feugan3333: after some tweaking11:58
feugan3333jeff303: pretty cool11:58
eduardoCrube: heh so why ain't it?11:58
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jeff303feugan3333: but I've been having some lockups on Battle.net, wondering if they were common11:59
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jeff303feugan3333: don't remember them from Windows11:59
Crubeeduardo I have no idea :D11:59
weezertengo un pequeo problema con el amule, alguien me puede ayudar?11:59
eduardocraps!11:59
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dmkDarthFrog, nice one mate enjoy11:59
DarthFrogdmk: exporting the GCC variable worked, where symlinking didn't. :-)11:59
eduardoso what do I do?11:59
Crubeeduardo did you install ubuntu 5.1011:59
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DarthFrogdmk: Mind you, there's a downside.  Now Windows is running again. :-)   I'll not enjoy that.11:59
dmkDarthFrog, symlink must be wrong then mate - glad its working though11:59
feugan3333jeff303: might be Cedega's fault, never had lockups in while playing in windows.11:59

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