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Duder29pc12:05
jsubl2no release party in dallas :(12:05
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jsubl2Duder29: you could try one of the boot options like apic=no  what is your mobo and disks12:06
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mpmcis there a service manager in kubuntu?12:06
Strike4cebasically this new update is is installing the whole os?12:06
jsubl2damn the torrents are really hot >400kb12:06
orugohey12:07
Strike4cewhats the fastest way for me to get the updates?12:07
orugoi need help with SOUND in kubuntu12:07
orugoi mean12:07
MarsHi i have  a problem. I had win deco crystalGL and everything was warking good. But i restarted my pc amd there is an error of that deco, that shows message that i dont have openGL. How can i repair it?12:07
orugoi play a mp3 file12:07
orugoand it doesnt work12:07
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jsubl2Strike4ce: have you already changed your sources to point to breezy12:07
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Strike4ceyep12:07
SgepShould I comment out 12:07
Sgepdeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde34212:07
SgepErr12:08
frank23Sgep: yes that one is useless with breezy12:08
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SgepWhat exactly needs to be changed?12:09
Strike4cesudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list RIGHT???12:09
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jsubl2orugo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:09
mpmcIs there a service manager in Kubuntu?12:09
Strike4cejsubl2 thats the right command to change it correct?12:09
jsubl2Strike4ce: i am a little weak with sed.. but yeah maybe12:09
Strike4cehe sed she sed12:09
mpmcLOL12:09
jsubl2Strike4ce: i generally do it by hand12:09
SgepJust change it and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?12:10
Strike4cewhy the ll is it taking so long lol12:10
Strike4cehell12:10
jsubl2apt-get update first12:10
orugorestricted formats?12:10
jsubl2Strike4ce: usa or europe12:10
SgepDo I do apt-get update before or after changing sources.list ?12:10
Strike4cewell all my updates are coming from ubuntu.com/breezy/main so I guess thats right?12:10
Strike4ceUSA12:11
Sgepand do I keep 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted' ?12:11
frank23Sgep: after12:11
jsubl2Strike4ce: with everyone downloading the server are really slow.. might be faster to use the torrent and get the cd12:11
frank23Sgep: change it to breezy-updates12:11
Strike4cehow do you go about doing this?12:11
Strike4ceim at the 309th file now12:12
Strike4celol12:12
Strike4cehowmany files are there?12:12
jsubl2yeah it will be slow... always on release day12:12
mpmcIS there a GUI Service manager??12:12
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jsubl2I am getting >400kb/sec on the torrents12:12
Duder29jsubl2 my mb is a ELiteGroup12:13
=== BlankB wonders why apt-get cant work more like a torrent.
jsubl2Duder29: don't ring a bell.. i would try a boot option the cd has info on how to use those maybe the apic=no. 12:13
Duder29could it maybe be my hard drive? its still formated form a earlier time with other files12:14
Strike4cejsubl2 im getting18.3kb and im broadband LMAO12:14
Strike4cedownloading thru apt get12:14
jsubl2Strike4ce: yeah i upgraded a couple of files and it was only about that.  damn torrent is fast tho.  I am going to leave mine up for a couple of days12:15
Sgep"Starting with Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10), K3B does not come with MP3 decoding support out of the box"12:15
jsubl2i am on breezy anyway12:15
SgepI'm downgrade K3B?12:15
frank23Strike4ce: I upgraded a few days ago:  I probably got 300kb/s on average from the canadian mirrors12:15
SgepErr http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg12:15
Sgep  Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'12:15
SgepIgn http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release12:16
frank23Sgep: that is not your fault12:16
Strike4cehow do I setup my bittorrent to download the files?12:16
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jsubl2Strike4ce: you in kde12:16
Strike4ceyes12:16
Strike4cei think12:17
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jsubl2start konq and double click the file or right click and select the program to start it with12:17
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Strike4cethe browser12:17
jsubl2Strike4ce: yes konqueror the browser.. right click the file and look under open with12:18
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Strike4cethe file? I dont see that12:19
jsubl2did you download the iso.torrent file12:19
jsubl2kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent12:20
SgepDoes 'Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release' prevent it from working?12:20
Strike4celo jus sec12:20
Strike4celol12:20
SgepIgn http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages12:20
jsubl2Strike4ce: i am trying to dcc it to you if you want it12:20
SgepIgn http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages12:20
Strike4cewell im not using kde on my desktop have 2 puters sitting here12:21
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othernoobmmh, my alt gr key works like the normal alt key, anyone know how i can change that?12:21
jsubl2Strike4ce: start your torrent client and just open up the filename.torrent12:21
KevmanHow to I get Firefox in Breezy?12:22
jsubl2Kevman: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox12:22
MarsHi i have quaetion is it safe to upgrade kubuntu to 5.10 ? 12:22
jsubl2yes12:22
jsubl2from hoary yes12:22
Kevmanjsubl2: Doesn't work.12:23
Marsok and how much of stuff it will download using distr update?12:23
Strike4ceim looking for the client its preinstalled on kde right?12:23
frank23Mars: about 500 MBs12:23
jsubl2!sources12:23
uboturumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:23
jsubl2Kevman: follow those links12:23
KevmanWhat repo is it in? I thought it was in Universe.12:24
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MarsI hope upgrading it will help me with my openGL problems :)12:24
jsubl2!find ktorrent12:24
ubotuktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB12:24
Strike4cei dont have it on here12:25
Strike4cecan i stop this thru terminal?12:25
Strike4ceits installing the files12:25
MarsI dont know why but after i edited xorg.cof my window deco works wrong, and shows info that there is not OpenGL :/12:25
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SgepCan I replace my whole sources.list with the one from mentioned by ubotu?12:26
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MarsBTW where can i find or download sources list for 5.10?12:26
KevmanDAMN. There's no kedit and kate crashes!?12:27
Sgep!sources12:27
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:27
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KevmanWow, Breezy is broke bad.12:28
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Marsdo i have to delete # to make source work or i have to leave it?12:28
jsubl2not for me12:28
jsubl2delete the # to enable the source.. # comments it out12:29
frank23Mars: you have do delete #   # means a comment 12:29
KevmanThere's no kedit, kate won't run, and I can't apt-get install kedit, it has unmet dependencies!12:29
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Marsyou can use pico12:29
gdhnano :)12:29
travcan someone please help me with the partition setup to install linuix12:29
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jsubl2Kevman: my fresh install did not see any of those problems12:30
KevmanMind did. What could be wrong?12:30
jsubl2trav if you question is more specific12:30
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jsubl2trav then maybe12:30
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Strike4cetrav is this a dual boot?12:30
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travstrike ace yes12:31
travhda1 windows for my gf, hdb1 linux for me12:31
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Strike4cetrav http://whoiam55.at.preempted.net/?p=1812:32
KevmanWhy didn't they include kedit?12:32
slow-motionn812:32
Strike4cehow big of a drive trav?12:32
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trav250g12:33
Strike4cewow12:33
frank23Kevman: kedit is in universe12:33
Strike4cehow much room do you think you will need?12:33
Strike4cedid you do a backup?12:33
_bradycan I just do a upgrade-dist to go from 5.0.4 to 5.10 or do I need to modify my sources.list file?12:33
Strike4ceplus you need to defragment that drive before you partition12:33
Kevmanfrank23: I know, but it won't install.12:34
travwell i just want the big one for myself, the other is a 10g, mostly filled with my gf's msoffice stuff12:34
frank23!tell _brady about upgrade2breezy12:35
Strike4cethe other partition? or do you have more than one hardrive?12:35
travyes two hard drives12:36
troyapt is sooo slow *whines*12:36
frank23troy: today is a bit exceptional for the servers12:37
Strike4cewell i think that linux will make itself the master drive so when you partition it will ask what size if you want her to have only 10gb then make yours around 230 or 240gb12:37
Duder29man I have tried 3 different CDROM's and I still get errors when trying to boot up the install cd (kubuntu) :(12:37
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Duder29this sucks12:37
Kevman  kedit: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3) but 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu7 is to be installed12:37
Strike4ceohh ok12:37
KevmanI get that when I try to apt-get kedit12:38
Strike4ceyou'll have to install windows on her 10gb hardrive12:38
Duder29it says "cannot initialize debconf template"12:38
frank23Kevman: did you change everything in your sources.list to breezy?12:38
Kevmanfrank23: I shouldn't have to. Its a fresh install.12:38
frank23Kevman: oh12:38
travwindows is already installed on the other12:39
KevmanAnyway, I have no text editor to look at sources.list!12:39
travand how would i make a linux-swap on that same drive too?12:39
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Strike4ceok im not sure but you have to set that 10gb to master too and when you start up it will ask what to boot from12:39
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frank23Kevman: just use nano in a shell12:40
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Strike4ceread the link I gVE YOU TRAV12:41
connhi, I set up samba file sharing, and I can access my ubuntu machine via windows, and vice versa, but something's bugging me. I can't ping the hostname of the Windows machine (called "inspiron"), but in smbclient it's listed as \\INSPIRON. It's been a while since I used linux, but I'm wondering should e.g. "ping inspiron" work or do I need to configure something else?12:41
_bradyany ideas on upgrading?  can I just update  my sources.list? and if so, could some kind soul tell me the change?12:41
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travk i am now thx12:42
_bradyconn: inspiron is your netbois name...it needs to be in dns to ping12:42
_bradyconn: easy way to fix is to add inspiron to your /etc/hosts file12:42
frank23!tell _brady about upgrade2breezy12:42
frank23_brady: look at what ubotu sent you12:43
Strike4ce_brady use this: sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list12:43
conn_brady: thanks, but is there no easier way to dynamically add netbios names to the dns as a client connects to the workgroup?12:43
Duder29can anyone help me?12:43
frank23Duder29: when do you get that error?12:43
KevmanEh, I just uncommecnted a shitload of repos in sources.list.12:44
Duder29when I press enter right after the cd boots up12:44
Duder29its says KUBUNTU press enter to blah blah12:44
frank23Duder29: do you have any special hardware? sata drives, etc that is not common12:45
Duder29then it shows all the words goin down the screen and then it starts sayin it cant initialize stuff then just stops12:45
Duder29no I dont12:45
Strike4ceput the cd in and then do a restart hit f12 on a dell system and then select boot from cd12:45
_bradyconn: probably a dynamic way, but I don't know how12:45
Duder29its an old ELITEGROUP K7VZA MB with 512 ram and a 1.66ghz AMD proc12:46
Mustafuman, I wish I had a machine with those specs atleast ;)12:46
Duder29lmao12:46
_bradyfrank23 and strike4ce thanks!  I didn't see the ubotu tab12:46
MustafuI have a P2-400 with 384 ram12:46
Mustafu:(12:46
Duder29this is just a spare pc that Id like to learn linux with, but looks like Im not gonna get it to work12:46
SgepIt's sayign 12h12:47
Strike4ceDuder29 what is the problem it wont boot from cd?12:47
SgepHow do I speed the thing up!12:47
frank23Duder29: yeah I don't know what you can do. 12:47
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Duder29well it boots from the cd but then runs into problems before it ever starts to install12:48
Strike4cedamn how many files is this? Im at 350 and it stil says 5hrs left12:48
Strike4ceI know12:49
Strike4ceWhat key are you hitting to get it to boot to cd12:49
Strike4cefkey12:49
jsubl2in less time i have gotten the 386 and amd64 version from torrent12:49
Strike4cewhat fkey12:49
jsubl2i am seeding now12:49
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Snoopinatoryop12:49
Strike4cejsubl2 can i stop this installation w/o screwing things up?12:50
jsubl2the servers are bogged down... release day12:50
Strike4cethru terminal?12:50
jsubl2Strike4ce: is it still downloading files 12:50
Snoopinatordoes anywone knows where i can get glib ? it seems that gcc needs it12:50
dverzollaanyone knows a fast mirror to download kubuntu?12:50
Strike4ceyes installing12:50
dverzollatorrent sucks ;|12:50
Tm_TSnoopinator: use apt-get12:50
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Duder29I have it booting from cd then press any key12:51
jsubl2once it starts installing i think you are committed..  it downloads all files first12:51
SgepCan I redirect all networkability to apt-get and apt-get's children?12:51
Strike4cejsubl2 then i can apt get torrent and start from there right?12:51
SnoopinatorTm_T:  i tried ... but it says no package found12:51
Duder29then it goes to the screen to press enter to continue12:51
jsubl2yeah12:51
jsubl2dverzolla: i got over 400kb/sec off my torrent.. worked really well12:51
Strike4ceok its not giving your system enough time to boot from cd so you need to push that key like a madman12:51
Strike4ceDuder2912:52
dverzollajsubl2, I get 135kb/s12:52
SgepIs 30.3kB/s normal?12:52
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dverzollajsubl2, I'm from Brazil12:52
jsubl2ahh.. i am usa12:52
mcquaidhas anyone tried to compile a qt app in breezy yet? 12:52
Strike4cejsubl2 i cant back out of terminal now?12:52
dverzollajsubl2, :) many torrents 12:52
mcquaidi've compiled a few with hoary without issue but now i get configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt312:52
seifehi12:52
Strike4ceyou get that Duder29?12:52
seifei want to test KDE12:52
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SgepIf I were to close out of Konversation, would it go any faster?12:53
seifewhy u guys prefer kde than gnome?12:53
seifeim downloading kubuntu breezy w00t.12:53
Strike4ceDuder29 ok its not giving your system enough time to boot from cd so you need to push that key like a madman12:53
jsubl2Strike4ce: you dist-upgrading from command line just <control>c it12:53
Mars__^HI me again i have question i am going to upgrade to 5.10 but forft i used apt-get -f install. And then i will use   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is it good to do it in this way? (i updated sooources list and i used pt-get -f install, because when i wanted to go to 5.10 it showed me some problems and asked to use previous command) 12:53
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Ayidendoes the new kubuntu 5.10 include nvidia drivers?12:53
Strike4cejsubl2 do I need to save?12:53
seth_k|lappyAyiden, of course, so did 5.0412:53
jsubl2no12:53
jsubl2Strike4ce: no12:53
Strike4cejust close ok12:54
jsubl2yeah12:54
Strike4ceok whats the command to get torrent?12:54
seth_k|lappymcquaid, you need the QT dev packages12:54
jsubl2sudo apt-get install ktorrent12:54
Ayidenokay how about java?12:54
dverzollaMy Upload rate it's gt download :D12:54
seth_k|lappylibqt3-mt-dev or something, mcquaid 12:54
mcquaidseth_k|lappy, yeah i have those thats the weird thing12:54
Duder29Strike4ce what key do u mean>12:54
Duder29?12:54
seth_k|lappymcquaid, they changed names in breezy12:54
seth_k|lappymake sure you have the new ones12:54
mcquaidyes they were all removed on update, i've just reinstalled them12:55
dverzollakubuntu are sponsor from ubuntu?12:55
Snoopinatorany ide to get glic easyly ?12:55
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Snoopinatoridea12:55
reubeni love you all112:55
frank23Snoopinator: lol12:55
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Snoopinator:p12:55
Strike4cewhen you boot to cd you have to hit a F12 or something key one of those I dont know try f512:55
Snoopinatorhmm it's late here, cya guys12:56
KevmanAlrighty! I'm starting to get into this new Kubuntu.12:56
Duder29to make it do what Strike4ce? the cd boots up... it just crashes after many erros12:57
Duder29errors*12:57
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frank23Kevman: did you fix that kedit thing?12:57
Strike4cewell you better start over and check that drive for errors and defragment it12:57
Strike4cebefore you do anything12:57
god-zeroStrike4ce: defrag is for ms users12:59
frank23Strike4ce: there is no defrag equivalent in ext312:59
dverzollaanyone got update from ubuntu 5.04 to kubunto 5.10? 01:00
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dverzollausing kubuntu-desktop?01:00
god-zerodverzolla: i do ido!01:00
Mustafuheh01:00
dverzollagod-zero, and.. work fine?01:00
BOOTitoanybody can help me whit eagle driver on kubuntu breezy?01:00
Strike4cei thought he was trying to install sorry01:01
god-zerook 90%01:01
Strike4cehow do i add a cdrom01:01
dverzollagod-zero, What about 10% ? :D01:01
Strike4cei need to add my cdrom to the sourcelist01:01
god-zerogoofie stuff, prolly kde 3.5 stuff01:02
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Strike4cejsubl2 how do i add my cdrom to apt's sourcelist01:02
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Strike4cei did apt-cdrom01:02
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god-zerothis  irc # is too fast right now, no chance for real coversations :(01:03
Strike4cejsubl2 can you help me?01:03
Elsidoxhello. Im stuck between chooseing kubuntu or kanotix can someone tell me a few reaons why to pick one or the other?01:03
frank23Elsidox: is kanotix based on debian?01:04
Duder29Strike4ce I am trying to install. So u think it might be migh hard drive that is bad?01:04
Strike4cei dunno Duder29?01:04
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Strike4ceanyone know how to add cdrom to apt source list?01:04
Elsidoxfrank23, yes01:04
god-zeroDuder29: prolly not01:05
Duder29k01:05
frank23Elsidox: try both ;-)01:05
Duder29I dont get it01:05
djibStrike4ce: apt-cdrom add01:05
Elsidoxfrank23, lol I dont have enuff cds01:06
Strike4ceit says put a disc in drive? any disc?01:06
Strike4ceis that so it will see the cdrom?01:06
EcksEightySixElsidox, go kubuntu then! it was released today! fresh stuff :)01:07
Duder29I got it!!!! I figured out what was wrong! :) I had a bad stick of RAM. I took it out now its installing!! :)01:07
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EcksEightySixDuder29, hot swaping ram stick? :) cool01:08
Strike4ceit failed to mount the cdrom???/01:08
Strike4ceWTF???01:08
stephhow do i make my system boot to text mode rather than gui?01:08
stephif i make my default runlevel 1 rather than 2, will that do it?01:09
stephrunlevels in ubuntu are different than slack apparently01:09
KevmanWhy can't I get a refresh rate higher than 60Hz?01:10
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KevmanAnyone know what the name of the .dll Xine needs to play WMA?01:24
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_bradykevman: I think you need the w32codecs package...though I don't know where to find it01:29
god-zeroagain: anyone else seeding kubuntu? I'm only pushing, say, 64KB/s. Anyone else pushing better?01:29
_bradygod-zero: joining the torrent soon01:30
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_bradyI'll let you know what I get01:30
god-zerokk,good, I'm not sure if I'm getting a badconnect due to ktorrent01:31
Juerdgod-zero: I stopped seeding after uploading over 20 GB01:31
god-zeroholly01:31
JuerdBig pipe01:31
JuerdThis was a matter of hours.01:31
jsubl2god-zero: i am  not seeding that much right now  50 someodd kb/sec01:31
_bradykevman: http://nozell.com/blog/archives/2005/07/22/w32codecs-for-ubuntu-hoary/01:32
jsubl2downloads are complete.. just seeding01:32
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god-zeroI D/Led about 300-400KB/s, but I can't saturate my upload01:32
jsubl2god-zero: yeah that is about what i got01:32
jsubl2i have mine capped at 80 kb01:33
penguinboymy badger is downloading at 16.4 kb/sec....this sucks01:33
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jsubl2penguinboy: iso or torrent01:33
penguinboyiso01:33
god-zerokubuntu 386 iso01:34
jsubl2yeah that servers are all really bogged down.. torrent might be faster01:34
penguinboyis the torrent faster???01:34
jsubl2penguinboy: can be01:34
jsubl2normally is when everyone is going for iso's01:34
jsubl2i have uploaded 350m01:34
jsubl2i got the amd64 and 38601:35
god-zerohop on the torrent, I got bandwidth to spare (386 install iso)01:35
jsubl2god-zero: usa?01:35
god-zeroyes01:35
jsubl2me too.. dallas01:35
god-zerominnesota01:35
jsubl2i just felt a cold breeze01:36
penguinboyi am trying to install bittorrent now01:36
jsubl2i can dcc you the torrent file01:36
god-zerojsubl2: lol, It's like 60 here... not too  cold01:37
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penguinboyhow do you download a bittorrent?01:37
_bradypenguinboy: me too...the apt servers are totally bogged01:37
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jsubl2sudo apt-get install ktorrent01:37
penguinboythanks sub201:38
jsubl2:)01:38
penguinboybrb01:38
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god-zerod/l the *.torrent to /home/mynamehere open ktorrent, load /home/mynamehere/cooldownload.torrent.... wait a bit01:38
jsubl2i like release days.. get a big torrent grid going.. kinda fun01:39
god-zerodoes anyone want me to e-mail the .torrent to them?01:40
_bradywhat repo is ktorrent in?  I get a "couldn't find package" error01:40
god-zerojohn.godzero@gmail.com01:40
jsubl2universe _brady 01:40
_bradytks01:40
jsubl2i will send it god-zero 01:40
hydrogenktorrent is in extragear.. so ya, it'd be universe01:41
_bradyhmmm01:41
_bradyI have eb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe in my sources.list01:41
jsubl2god-zero: it is off to you01:41
jsubl2_brady: do you have gtorrent01:42
_bradynope01:42
hydrogenor just bittornado/bittorrent work01:42
_bradyI was trying to d/l bittorrent via kynaptic, but it keeps timing out01:42
jsubl2gnome-btdownload bittornado-gui 01:42
_bradyunfortunately I have no bt clients :-(01:43
_bradyI just installed kubuntu last night01:43
jsubl2sudo apt-cache search torrent01:43
_bradythe 5.0.4 version, of course01:43
god-zero_brady: thanks, but I was offering the torrent01:43
god-zerolol, I got your email01:43
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god-zerohydrogen: bittornado should work good01:44
_bradywell, I may have a larger issue...if ktorrent is in universe, and it (universe) is in my source.list file, then WTF?01:45
_bradysources.list*01:45
god-zerohrm01:45
jsubl2i don't know about hoary and ktorrent i have been running breezy for a couple of months01:46
_bradyapt-cache search torrent returns a few hits, but not ktorrent01:46
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jsubl2use a different client01:46
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_bradyok...just wanted to make sure I had the repos right01:46
Octaneare kde 3.5 beta packages out for amd64?01:46
god-zerosec01:47
KevmanWhat should I use to play video? Xine and kaffiene do nothing but crash :/01:47
jsubl2sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer01:47
jsubl2then get the codecs01:47
god-zerosection : universe/net component : universe according to synaptic01:49
god-zeroKevman: : motherboard adio (ac'97)?01:49
god-zeroOctane: nno, not to my knowledge01:51
jsubl2Kevman: codecs are wget http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz201:52
god-zero_brady: jsubl2: I'm running 3.5 b1.. ktorrent didn't connect before. May be unique to me01:53
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god-zerobefore= 3.401:54
Sgephiall01:54
_bradyI went with qtorrent...it was small and I was getting a lousy d/l rate with apt servers01:54
Duder29is there a way to get games for the new kubuntu? like (minesweeper etc..) or are they already on here? Im new to linux01:54
god-zeroDuder29: I have 40ish? right now01:55
SgepIs there a way to download/install breezy somehow w/ rsync, or am I talking about something I know nothing about?01:55
Duder29how?01:55
god-zeroSgep: do the torrent thing01:55
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god-zeroDuder29: 95% are simple games01:56
jsubl2god-zero: that is the same version i am using01:56
god-zeroall are in repos01:56
Duder29yea thats what I mean, how did u get them?01:56
god-zerowould you like me to postbin my sources.list?01:57
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Duder29sure01:57
Duder29:)01:57
Duder29Im new like I said, so Im not real sure how to do it01:57
jsubl2Duder29: did you get the install cd to boot01:58
SgepCan I cancel the apt-get?01:58
jsubl2as long as it is still downloading you can control c 01:58
Duder29yes01:59
Duder29I did01:59
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Duder29I want firefox!! :)02:00
SgepAfter I upgrade via CD, then do I do the dist-upgrade?02:00
Duder29I dont know how... but i want it02:00
Duder29;)02:00
_bradyhave you tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox?02:00
_bradythat's how I did it last night02:01
Duder29no02:01
god-zeroDuder29: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39291802:01
Duder29I dont know anything about linux yet02:01
Duder29I want to learn02:01
god-zerolearn you will my young padawan02:01
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Duder29;)02:01
_bradythanks for the pastebin02:02
Duder29god-zero ok what do I do once I copy all that?02:02
Flokerhello02:02
Sgepfailed02:02
Flokeri've been stopped by the police 10mins ago :[ 02:02
god-zeroDuder29: that should be your /etc/apt/sources.list02:02
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Duder29http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39291802:03
god-zeroFloker: how fast wee you going?02:04
Flokerthat was not the reason02:04
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Flokeri was driving without headligh02:04
Flokert02:04
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Floker(2h at night)02:04
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Flokera well was about 10kph too fast. but nevermind02:05
god-zeroDuder: sudo kedit.... /etc/apt/sources.list...02:05
Flokerthey were looking for some thief02:06
Flokerand they sayd he would wear the same clothes02:06
dudergod-zero how do I save that to my source list? it says it cannot overite it02:06
Flokerand they jumpt on the brakes and i almost hit em02:06
Flokeridiots02:06
god-zerosudo02:06
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god-zerosudo = IamGod02:06
_bradydoes bittorrent dislike NATs?02:06
Flokernats dislike bittorent02:07
god-zerokdesu for gui stuff02:07
_bradyport forward?02:07
god-zero"kdesu kedit"02:07
Flokerbut you can set up your router to "like bt" ;)02:07
_bradyis it worth it?02:07
Flokeryes abolutely02:07
_bradyk...udp or tcp (or rtfm ;-) ?02:08
Duder29sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox02:08
Flokerrtfm i guess ;)02:08
Flokerdepends02:08
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Flokergoogle for "port forwarding" + bittorrent02:08
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_bradytks02:08
Flokernp02:08
duderhey guys I have the linux drivers for my sound card... how do I install them?02:09
Flokerduder: what files do you have?02:10
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satafterhwhere  do i get the dvd version02:12
Flokerof what02:12
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satafterhkubuntu02:12
duderFloker I am trying to find them02:12
Flokeri think there is no dvd version02:12
Flokerk duder02:12
Flokerok02:12
satafterhthe site says there is02:12
Flokermh02:12
Flokerwtf? kubuntu 5.10 is out02:13
Flokernice02:13
Flokerhttp://82.211.81.153/kubuntu/5.10/ this is everything02:13
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Flokerthere IS a DVD version of UBuNtU02:13
Flokeryou may install ubuntu as "base" and then kde ;)02:14
duderFloker I see a folder in the drivers that says Linux, when I click that I see Caldera, RedFlag, and Redhat02:14
Flokerwhat distrbution do you have?02:14
Flokerand what type of soundcard02:15
duderthe new kubuntu02:15
Flokerwell, i would guess that sound works out of the box02:15
duderand my sound is "VIA686" embeded on my MB02:15
Flokerand it doestn work?02:16
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duderno my sound does not work02:16
Flokermh02:16
duderI get a box that pops up saying it cannot find my sound02:16
dudermixer cannot be found02:16
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Flokersry man, im a noob. but you can check out www.ubuntuguide.org02:16
willieI just failed to recompile my kernel with this error..02:17
williemake[2] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.02:17
willieanybody got a clue -- cos I don't02:17
williecmd was -- fakeroot make-kpkg -append-to-version=willie-athlon kernel_image --initrd binary 02:17
Flokersorry willie i dont know02:18
Flokera well 02:18
willies'OK you are in good company02:18
Flokeractulally, there was some article at www.ubuntuusers.de but its in german02:18
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willieich sprachen ein bisschen02:19
Flokerhehe02:19
god-zeroWillie's compiling a kernel, and asking us noobs what's wrong. Who's the %^#^%#&02:19
Flokerhrhr02:19
willieIm a kubuntu noob   not a total noob02:19
FlokerWILLIE: try this:02:20
Flokerhttp://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40302:20
willieI know enough to be dangerous but noit enough to be useful :-)02:20
Flokerhope that helps02:20
Flokerlol02:20
willieta02:20
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god-zerosorry... willie, I thought it was funny02:21
Flokerthere are some more sites with information that maybe helps you willie02:21
Flokerhttp://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22+No+rule+to+make+target+%60init%2Fmain.o%27%2C+needed+by+%60init%2Fbuilt-in.o%27.++Stop%22&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=02:21
god-zeroHrm, seems like everyone's gone to bed. We can now focus on 1 or 2 probs02:26
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penguinboyhow do you install bittorrent02:26
god-zeroMy god, 10ihs hours ago, this irc was scarry02:26
duderso no one knows how I can figure out how to install my sound drivers?02:26
Flokerapt-get install bittorrent?02:26
duder:(02:27
god-zeroduder: a box like can't find dev/dsp?02:28
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god-zeroor different?02:28
duderwhat do u mean god-zero?02:28
williegod-zero: no prb -- no offence taken  :-)02:28
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god-zeroWillie: some times I overthink things and thing person X might be offended02:30
god-zeros/thing/think02:30
dudergod-zero do u have any clue how I can install these drivers that i have downloaded?02:30
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korksterevening all02:31
willie"Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware".  <=== shamelessly stolen02:32
god-zeroduder: can you pls re-state the prob please?02:32
god-zerowillie: I know where u live02:33
willieyeah the domain is a bit of a give away02:34
dudersure. I have an onboard audio device and when I boot up kubuntu I get an error saying it cannot find my sound device. so I went and found my drivers online and it said they are linux drivers. but when I look in the folder after I extract. I do not see a "Ubuntu" folder02:34
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williegod-zero: where do you live?02:34
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god-zerowillie: in the frozen north02:34
penguinboyi wanna ask a stupid quesiton....i just installed the bittorrent client....now how do I install the badger through bittorrent????02:34
god-zerominn02:34
willieAberdeen?02:35
god-zerowillie: minnesota02:35
willieconsiderably south of me :-)02:36
god-zeropenguinboy: boy do you have to work on your conversation skills02:36
penguinboylol02:36
god-zeroi thiink you meen02:36
penguinboyyes?02:36
god-zerodownload the .torrent to /home/meliveshere02:37
dudergod-zero what do u think?02:37
god-zerothen pen the torrent with bitTorrent/ec02:37
god-zerodud?02:38
god-zeroopen02:38
god-zerowillie: where do you live?02:39
stodgeDoes anyone have a sub-menu in their Start menu called "Debian"?02:39
willieI thought you knew :-)02:39
williehint -- its not Kentucky02:39
penguinboysounds difficult02:39
penguinboyi live in Kentukcy02:40
thoreauputicstodge: you have that if you installed the "menu" package (and maybe menu-xdg)02:40
stodgeIs that installed by default?02:40
stodgeI don't remember installing it02:40
god-zerowillie: aberdeen? where is that? stodge: yes02:40
stodgeIs it safe to remove?02:40
williegod-zero: Glasgow Scotland and its 014102:40
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duderhow do I turn off army time?02:40
duderlol02:40
williewhich strangely enough is our local dia code :-) as well as the time02:41
thoreauputicstodge: I guess sudo apt-get --remove purge menu menu-xdg would remove it (never tried)02:41
williearmy time?02:41
duderyes02:41
stodgelol am I brave enough? :)02:41
thoreauputicstodge: bah sorry - apt-get remove --purge 02:41
duder20:21 instead of 8:4102:41
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stodge:) Thanks02:41
williewhat is army time? GMT zulu?02:41
duder20:41*02:42
reagleBRKLNhow do i get java, limewire, azureus, etc. in breezy?02:42
duderuhh 02:42
duderI just want it to say 8:41pm02:42
duderlol02:42
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thoreauputicamericans refer to 24hr time as army time apparently02:42
jsubl2duder right click on the clock -- date and time format -- time & dates -- 02:42
stodgeI removed it using adept - it wants to stop kdm???02:42
dudercorrect02:42
god-zeroarmy time = 24 clock.. more specifically zulu/GMT02:42
duderso what do I set it as?02:42
stodgeIt's removing my whole damn KDE!!02:43
jsubl2pH:MM:SS AMPM02:43
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thoreauputicstodge: well you better not do it then :)02:43
stodgelol02:43
jsubl2duder use the drop down and select it02:43
duderI selected it and applied but it didnt change02:44
duderdo I have to restart?02:44
willieduder: nope02:44
god-zerodud: not really02:44
duderstill says 20:4402:44
jsubl2logout and back in02:44
god-zeronext time time =ok02:44
duderahh ok cool02:45
dudernow if I could get my sound working I will be good to go:)02:45
god-zeroprolly02:45
duder:)02:45
god-zerotry yhe dirrent output engines, some don't work for me either02:46
crimsunduder: lspci -v |grep -i audio02:46
Hobbseeduder: what were you trying to do, sorry?  get the clock in 12 hour time?02:46
korksterthoreauputic I just refer to it as 24-hour time :)02:46
Flokerhey02:46
Flokeris anyone on efnet right now?02:46
Flokerneed help02:46
dudercrimson do I type that in the terminal?02:46
korksterheya Hobbsee :)02:46
Hobbseeduder: yes02:46
Hobbseehi korkster :)02:46
korksterHobbsee I'm upgrading right now...didnt know it would take this long tho02:46
Hobbseehehe...reps are very slow...02:47
duderit didnt do anything.. it just went down one line02:47
Hobbseeyou're getting it from a mirror?02:47
duderI downloaded my drivers for the sound but I dont know how to install them02:47
crimsunduder: old computer? usb sound card?02:47
korksterHobbsee nah just the repos...its no big deal02:47
Flokerare there any officials on irc if some admin is a real prick and i want to report?02:47
korksterI got time02:47
Hobbseegetting the thunderbird update at 11.9kbps02:47
Hobbseelol true02:47
duderehh oldER MB onboard sound02:47
korksterIm just crossing my fingers that it all works :)02:48
Hobbseesame, in another terminal, so i can still do everything here02:48
Hobbseekorkster: yeah, definetly, hope so02:48
Hobbseeduder: everything turned up in alsamixer?02:48
god-zerokorkster: forget the crossing the fingers.02:48
duderuhh it says mixer not found02:48
Floker:(02:48
god-zerogcc 4. 0 made it way hard02:49
korkstergod-zero no crossing the fingers ???02:49
korksterthat means either its a lock, or I dont have a chance :)02:49
crimsunduder: lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:49
korksterheya crimsun :)02:49
god-zeroI think gcc 44.0 caused a lotta hard times02:49
god-zero4.002:49
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duderduder@kubuntu:~$ lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:50
duderusage: lspnp [-b]  [-v[v] ]  [device #] 02:50
dudercrimsun thats what it said02:50
reagleBRKLNhrmm using kubuntu breezy and have a cdrom mounted, but left click to eject, the option ain't there?02:50
jsubl2how about on the right click02:51
reagleBRKLNhow to unmount/eject?02:51
reagleBRKLNoops, yes, i meant alt-click, option not there02:51
reagleBRKLN(have my buttons reversed)02:51
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crimsunduder: paste output from lspnp -v to paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:53
reagleBRKLNthe alt-click option in media://, but not desktop02:53
duderusage: lspnp [-b]  [-v[v] ]  [device #] 02:53
crimsunduder: lspnp -v02:54
reagleBRKLNnow, how to get java/limewire/freemind/azureus working02:54
crimsundon't paste here.02:54
duderIm not sure what u want me to do with lspnp -v02:55
Hobbsee!pastebin02:55
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:55
duderhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/305102:57
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crimsunsudo mount /proc/bus/usb02:58
crimsunerr02:58
crimsunpnp, not usb02:58
duderhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/305302:59
crimsunduder: I'll be back later, but you need to mount /proc/bus/pnp before I can really help03:01
dudercrimsun I dont know how to do that03:02
brady_duder: could you post the output of "dmesg" ?03:02
brady_need to see if your sound card is being detected03:03
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duderhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/305403:07
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duderwhat ya think brady?03:11
brady_sorry..waas away from the keyboard...looking at it now03:11
duderk thanks03:12
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Ravenskyhey, what's the command to reconfigure X again?03:13
brady_duder: well, doesn't look like your sound chipset is being autodetected.  do you know what sound card/chipset you have?03:15
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satafterhwhat is and where is Guidance configuration tools.03:15
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duderyes ( VIA 686 )03:16
jsubl2maybe sudo modprobe via82xx03:17
satafterhnever mind just read about it03:17
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orangeyhey all! are the backports broken?03:17
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satafterhhay all there are no dvd images03:18
jsubl2it is only 1cd03:18
brady_duder: try what jsubl2 suggested.  if nothing happens, take a look at the syslog file at /var/log/messages03:18
satafterhno for the dvd version03:18
jsubl2don't know03:18
duderno it said it wasnt found03:19
duder:(03:19
brady_that modprobe wasn't found?03:19
satafterhi only have dvdr right now and i live in the woods03:19
jsubl2satafterh: wont it burn a regular iso.. would think it would03:19
strike4ceWill it hurt to install some part of the upgrades?03:19
dudersatafterh just burn the iso to a dvd03:20
satafterhdont know never tried that03:20
duderit wil lwork03:20
brady_strike4ce: I've only been using kubuntu for 24 hours, but I'd assume not03:20
satafterhi like the way you think03:20
jsubl2Duder brady configuring the old isa pnp stuff.. man that is tough especially when you ain't done it for 5 years03:20
jsubl2Duder brady_ i am positive i can't do it03:21
duderyea I bet03:21
satafterhMmmmmm Homer like duder03:22
brady_duder: did the modprobe command fail, or did the module loading fail?03:22
jsubl2no output is a good thing.. duder brady_ run alsamixer in terminal window to be sure03:23
brady_jsubl2: I don't think his sound chipset is being detected.  If it is it isn't in his dmesg output03:23
jsubl2ok03:24
brady_I'm a *buntu and debian noob, but I've used redhat for years03:24
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brady_so I could be way off base ;-)03:24
satafterhi tried to install redhat one time03:24
satafterhjust once03:25
satafterhbut ive tried to install alot of things, if i cant figure it out in 30 sec's i dont like it03:26
brady_actually I think fedora 4 is really nice...but I'm testing kubuntu on an old laptop of mine03:26
satafterhshort attention span and all03:26
brady_yeah...each distro has its own tricks.03:27
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satafterhi have tried about 12 distro's in the last 3 month, trying to get away from the man ya see. There are a few good one i liked, but fell in love with kubuntu. I lover here, thank your ubuntu03:28
brady_yeah, so far so good with my experience with kubuntu.  03:31
satafterhi do have a video and audio sync problem with movies though03:32
brady_anyone out there on the torrent?  I'm getting ~20kBps down, ~2kBps up03:32
satafterhbut other than that i an very happy with it03:32
brady_what are you using to view the movies?03:32
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brady_or more specifically, what audio output are you using?03:33
brady_I've had sound lag with arts and sdl03:33
brady_I output straight to alsa03:33
satafterhmovie synce sproblem is with everythin i use, mplayer, kaffine and so on. 03:33
brady_but the channel can't be shared03:33
brady_I've always been a KDE fan, but I've always hated arts03:34
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brady_maybe I just don't know enough about it03:34
Bicchion the restricted modules whats the difference between amd64 generic and amd64-k803:35
strike4ceOk how do i get in to change my source list03:35
satafterhI have tried differant audio out puts, i did find a solution one time but forgot what it was and installed everythin after a hardrive crash. I belive i had to install something but dont really remember03:35
strike4cewhat command?03:35
jsubl2Bicchi: k8 is for the k8 chipset mobo's03:35
strike4cewhat command do I need to get into source list?03:35
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brady_I use $vi /etc/apt/sources.list , but I'm an old-timer03:36
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Bicchijsubl2: excuse my ignorance but how do i know if i have a k8 mobo03:36
trs4eceHow can I get sound to work on Gaim while using Kubuntu?  It works in Ubuntu but not in Kubuntu...03:37
jsubl2Bicchi: manual  or look up specs from hp for instance  mine is an nforce chipset.  said on the box so i use th generic03:37
brady_w00t...bt is 57kBps down 1kBps up03:37
jsubl2i will probably leave my seed up all night and kill it in the morning03:38
brady_we appreciate it ;-)03:38
trs4eceDoes anybody use Gaim?03:39
jsubl2i am only pumping 55kb03:39
Bicchijsubl2: my motherboard model is msi k8n neo2. i guess that would qualify as a k8?03:39
jsubl2Bicchi: sure sounds like it to me03:39
jsubl2Bicchi: if you add a kernel ubuntu leaves the old there so you can just boot it if the new one don't work03:40
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brady_I've used gaim before, but usually ignore the audio ;-)03:40
trs4eceSo audio really can work for Gaim in Kubuntu... did you have to change any settings?03:40
Bicchijsubl2: that was my next question. i am going to remove the default (generic) kernel off.03:40
brady_your problem is, more than likely, related to the arts sound subsystem in kde03:40
strike4ceHow do Iget into the sourcelist to change it?03:40
mike_Doh! Tried to delete the Debian menu in Kubuntu and ended up uninstalling the whole of KDE03:40
jsubl2Bicchi: i would test the new one first.. always leave a backup03:41
Bicchijsubl2: do you know if removing it cleans up my grub list of kernels installed03:41
Bicchijsubl2: its working except for the ati drivers03:41
jsubl2Bicchi: i never remove the old ones.. 03:41
trs4ecebrady_: so should I reset the arts sound system or something?03:41
jsubl2Bicchi: ati drivers might be a show stopper03:41
strike4cejsubl2:  how do iget into the sourcelists?03:41
Bicchijsubl2: yeah specially on dual monitors03:41
brady_trs4ece: hold on a sec...lemme take a look at something03:42
jsubl2strike4ce: i use vi to.. if you do not know vi try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:42
brady_trs4ece: installing gaim right now...give me a couple secs03:42
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jsubl2Bicchi: you know it is really tough getting streaming video going with the 64bit version of kubuntu right?? codecs are 32bit03:44
strike4cedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted03:44
strike4cedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted03:44
jsubl2Bicchi: so i run 32 bit on mine03:44
strike4cejsubl2: Is that right?03:44
trs4ecebrady_: hey I think I've figured it out, Automatic doesn't seem to do a very good job in Gaim so I set it to Arts and it seems to be working now03:45
trs4ecebrady_: Although, I'm not sure why Automatic wouldn't work..03:45
jsubl2strike4ce: looks good to me03:45
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jsubl2!sources03:45
ubotuhmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:45
strike4cejsubl2: do i need breezy universe?03:45
jsubl2strike4ce: yes03:45
strike4ceok03:46
jsubl2and multiverse probably least i use multiverse03:46
Bicchijsubl2: yeah i know, i get a lot of limitations using  bits but in a way its the future so i run it to contribute to suporting it03:46
trs4ecebrady_: the sounds are also 3 seconds delayed for some reason03:46
brady_trs4ece: glad to hear you had success!03:46
Bicchijsubl2: using  64 bits that is03:46
brady_trs4ece: yeah...I revert back to my comments about how I don't like arts ;-)03:46
os2macok so how do I maintian my essid and key for my wlan?03:46
jsubl2Bicchi: yeah i play with it now and then.. but day in and day i use the 32bit03:46
kaandsound :(03:46
brady_does gaim have an option to output directly to alsa?03:47
trs4ecebrady_: Do I have any other options for sound?03:47
os2macs/maintian/maintain03:47
jsubl2Bicchi: triple boot.  i have windows requirement for secure client to work03:47
Bicchijsubl2: so you have an amd64 but using the 32 kernel03:47
jsubl2yes03:47
jsubl2it still damn fast and except for a few things i can tell that big a difference03:47
Bicchijsubl2: the only thing i regret is not having macromedia flash working03:47
jsubl2ripping cd's for one is faster03:47
Bicchiyou mean on the 64 bit03:48
kaandso is this the place to go for sound help?03:48
jsubl2Bicchi: yeah and last i checked gplflash2 isn't ready03:48
Bicchijsubl2: i know :(03:48
brady_kaand: I'll give it a shot...no promises ;-)03:48
jsubl2Bicchi: yeah ripping on 64 bit seems quite a bit faster.. have not noticed anything else03:48
Bicchijsubl2: but by the time its ready i bet macromedia shows up with something. @#$@ 03:49
kaandthanks03:49
kaandso i've tried several different things03:49
kaandincluding http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=9463903:49
Bicchijsubl2: video en/de coding is also faster03:49
kaandand http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple03:49
kaandbut ever since going to breezy, i haven't had sound03:49
kaandnone at all03:50
jsubl2Bicchi: i usually just watch videos offof cnn.  but i really like for that to work03:50
trs4ecebrady_: was your question about alsa directed to me?03:50
Bicchijsubl2: brb time to crash X03:50
duderanyone know how to make firefox the default browser in kubuntu?03:50
kaandbut it works fine in knoppix, though03:50
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duderno sound for me either kaand03:50
duder:(03:50
kaandyeah, it is teh suck03:51
jsubl2kaand: lspci | grep -i audio in a terminal window03:51
kaandbeen there03:52
brady_trs4ece: yeah...can gaim output to alsa?03:52
kaandit detects the same sound card knoppix did03:52
strike4ceDo I need to change this?03:52
strike4cedeb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy mai$03:52
jsubl2kaand: what is it03:52
strike4cejsubl2: does that need changed?03:52
strike4cedeb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy mai$03:52
kaand0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)03:52
trs4ecebrady_: I've got console beep, automatic, esd, arts and command03:52
jsubl2strike4ce: put a # in front of it03:52
FoodcomanAnyone have an automount USB Key problem with Breezy?03:53
jsubl2kaand: have you tried alsamixer that card should work out of the box.. speakers turned on etc..03:53
strike4ceok why doesnt it say 5.10?03:53
kaandi've tried messing around with it03:53
jsubl2strike4ce: wrong cd03:53
strike4cehow do i leave do ineed to save it?03:53
kaand it just worked when I was in knoppix 5 minutes ago03:53
kaandwhat do you recommend I do in alsamixer?03:54
strike4ceso it should be 5.10 what about hoary?03:54
jsubl2kaand: with alsamixer you have to make sure you don't have any MM at the bottom  if you do hit m and up arrow to raise the volume03:54
jsubl2kaand: start the app and you will see what i mean.. run in terminal window konsole03:55
kaandyeah, i've messed around with this before03:56
jsubl2kaand: and if alsamixer comes up without complaining that is a very good sign03:56
kaandline jack, cd, mic phone and aux were off and muted03:56
jsubl2fine03:56
kaandeverything else looks dandy03:56
jsubl2what kinda file you playing ogg i hope03:56
jsubl2mp3 support must be added after installation03:56
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kaandwell I usually try the 'sound test' thing in the system settings03:57
jsubl2nothing tho03:57
kaandbut amarok and xine don't have sound either03:57
kaandnope03:57
jsubl2ogg files03:57
kaandi don't even think I have any ogg files laying around03:58
jsubl2mp3 support must be added after installation03:58
jsubl2manually03:58
kaandi believe i did that03:58
strike4ceIs this what I need to paste in the sourcelist exactly how it reads? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 03:58
strike4cejsubl2: ?03:58
trs4ecebrady_: any thoughts?  I'm going to have to leave in about 5 min03:58
kaandused easyubuntu, just the multimedia stuff03:58
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trs4ecewhat's easyubuntu?03:59
jsubl2strike4ce: yeah that looks like what i use... i copied mine from ubotu link03:59
kaandit plays, mpg and wmv and avi fine now (except for the sound :( )03:59
strike4ceeven the words example?03:59
jsubl2strike4ce: if you are in usa you can add us. infront of the archive word03:59
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IRCMonkey_greetings03:59
IRCMonkey_who knows of a good freeware iso burner for XP?03:59
jsubl2strike4ce: not "us.archive"03:59
IRCMonkey_http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm04:00
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IRCMonkey_I guess this is as good as any04:00
jsubl2strike4ce: not/note04:00
kaandsearch the forums, it's this little program someone put together that does a bunch of the things need to get ubuntu 'desktop ready'04:00
trs4eceawesome, I'll have to try that out04:00
stodgeHey folks is this the multiverse repositor address?           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse04:00
stodge(repositorY)04:00
strike4cejsubl2: even the #example goes in or do I need to add somethingelse?04:01
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jsubl2strike4ce: #example don't matter the # comments it out so it is not used04:02
kaandok, dling an ogg now04:02
jsubl2strike4ce: but put in the other ones with a # sign.. you may want to uncomment the deb-src ones depending on what you are doing04:03
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jsubl2kaand: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:04
kaandi know about that stuff, dealt with it in hoary and warty04:04
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jsubl2good04:04
kaandthis is the first time i've had NO sound though04:04
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kaandnot even the startup sound or anything04:05
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jsubl2kaand: i generally set my kde sound to use alsa04:05
Kite-what are the steps to upgrade to 5.10 if im using 5.04 now?04:05
jsubl2!breezyupgrade04:05
ubotubreezyupgrade is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade04:05
apokryphosKite-: /topic04:05
kaandi did that too04:06
kaandi followed this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple04:06
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jsubl2kaand: u using gnome04:07
kaandnope04:07
kaandmidway through hoary, i switched04:07
kaandfresh kubuntu install now04:08
jsubl2the esd stuff is all for gnome04:08
kaandhrm04:08
kaandwell i guess it was useful for switching back then and was the only thing I could find for now04:09
IRCMonkey_Do I want to create a disk image or record an iso file after I have downloaded the 5.10 .iso file via BT?04:09
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kaandcould anything in my home folder be messing this up? I non destructively rsynced a backup of my hoary home into here04:10
IRCMonkey_uh, hold on I think I just figured it out04:10
IRCMonkey_I record an .iso, and then when I want to use it I make a disc image?04:10
jsubl2kaand: i would not think so.04:12
IRCMonkey_Incidentally, I am burning an .iso for a live cd to do a trial run. Can I then install from the live cd?04:13
kaanddang04:13
kaandso an ogg didn't work either04:14
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kaandis there anything else I can try?04:14
jsubl2kaand: dmesg | grep intel8x004:14
kaand[4294708.004000]  intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49981 usecs04:14
kaand[4294708.004000]  intel8x0: clocking to 4800004:14
jsubl2sudo lsmod|grep intel04:15
jsubl2should give 4 or 5 lines of snd_ stuff04:15
kaandsnd_intel8x0           30144  304:15
kaandsnd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_intel8x004:15
kaandsnd_pcm                78344  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss04:15
kaandsnd                    48644  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer04:15
kaandsnd_page_alloc         10120  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm04:15
kaandintel_agp              21276  104:15
kaandagpgart                32328  3 drm,intel_agp04:15
jsubl2simple yes would have been more apropriate04:16
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kaand:D04:16
jsubl2then it is working and something simple is wrong.. speakers turned off kde misconfigured etc.04:16
jsubl2my kde sound is left at autodetect.. 04:17
kaandi tried that and setting it to alsa04:17
apokryphoskaand: please read the freakin' topic; don't paste in here, use a pastebin service.04:17
kaandok04:18
jsubl2kaand: i am out of ideas sorry.. i think it should be really close to workin04:18
strike4ceOk how the hell do I change the source list and save it?04:18
kaandcan you think of another place i can look for help?04:19
apokryphosstrike4ce: apt sources, you mean?04:19
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IRCMonkey_hmm, let04:19
strike4ceyea I guess04:19
IRCMonkey_'s see if someone has a reply for this question04:19
strike4cewhere I need to change hoary as breezy04:20
apokryphos!tell strike4ce about breezyupgrade04:20
IRCMonkey_How do I boot from the .iso live cd in XP home?04:20
jsubl2kaand: did you try any of the stuff on the wiki04:20
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apokryphos!tell IRCMonkey_ about install04:20
kaandi mostly searched the forums04:20
kaandlike what?04:20
lwellshi all04:20
IRCMonkey_thank you04:20
jsubl2kaand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles04:20
lwellsi tried to install Breezy and i think it did not finish04:20
apokryphos:/04:21
kaandah, ok04:21
jsubl2lwells: well it installs the  base stuff.  reboots.  then finishes installing and lastly brings up a log in screen..04:21
kaandthanks, i'll look at these and give them a try04:21
jsubl2kaand: good luck04:21
lwellsso i should just reboot?04:22
strike4ceapokryphos: that applies to the kynaptic manager as well?  cuz it i different?04:22
jsubl2what is on the screen04:22
lwellsi installed it from terminal04:22
apokryphosstrike4ce: just use the apt method; edit /etc/apt/sources.list04:23
jsubl2no idea04:23
lwellsand it says "failed to fetch...linux-kernal-header04:23
apokryphoslwells: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:24
kaandit looks like 'lspnp' isn't working, it gives a '/proc/bus/pnp not available' message, could that affect things?04:24
kaandi think i remember the plug and play startup line not getting an ok like all the other lines during startup04:25
lwellsWell i am trying that again04:25
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orugohey04:28
orugoi have rpoblems with soun04:28
orugowhat can i do?04:29
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Octanewhere do I run guidance from04:30
Octanei just installed it but cant find it04:30
strike4ceapokryphos: Would it be easier just to uninstall kubuntu and burn the new 5.10 cd and install fresh?04:30
apokryphosstrike4ce: nope04:30
strike4ceapokryphos: well I've been doing this all day and I still havent figured it out04:31
orugooh04:31
orugo5.1004:31
orugoi want to ask about that04:31
orugoahahahah04:31
orugoi want to UPDATE04:31
apokryphosstrike4ce: it shouldn't take more than 2 minutes to set in place the things to do04:31
orugoi mean no cd shit installing04:31
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strike4ceapokryphos: hwo do i get torrent04:32
navynhey can anybody tell me what sane-backends are?04:32
strike4cehow?04:32
lwellsI love updating right from the terminal04:32
orugocan i install using ATP?04:32
apokryphosstrike4ce: if you've already got hoary, then it's pretty self-defeating doing a full reinstall04:32
orugoinstall 5.1004:32
Octanenavyn: sane is scanner libs04:32
apokryphos!tell orugo about breezyupgrade04:32
navynyeah, but what are backends?04:32
orugobut i have 5.0404:32
orugoi dont have the breezyupgrade04:32
strike4ceok my top line in source list that wont be seen right?04:32
kaandi tried the dist-upgrade but it messed things up04:32
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kaandi couldn't run vim from the cli04:33
_bradybackends are the scanner drivers04:33
navynkubuntu detects my scanner but it won't work with SANE04:33
apokryphosorugo: check the /msg you got from ubotu04:33
strike4ceAlso it keeps giving me this cdrom crap like it cant find it?04:33
orugoyes04:33
orugook04:33
kaandso it kinda forced me to to a fresh install :(04:33
Octanenavyn: check the sane website to see if your scanner is supported04:33
orugotks!04:33
apokryphosstrike4ce: what?04:33
apokryphosstrike4ce: it's not hard. Edit your sources.list file, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:34
lwellsapok, you might need to run them twice if there is a problem04:34
orugoapokryphos: first i have to swith to the breezy version and then to the official 5.10?04:34
strike4ceapokryphos:   here read:  W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages04:34
apokryphoslwells: there shouldn't be any04:34
apokryphosorugo: breezy *is* 5.1004:35
apokryphosstrike4ce: you evidently didn't alter the sources.list file accordingly04:35
lwellsi had some, it timed up on the upgrade, but it is working now04:35
navynthey said it is in sane-backends04:35
orugoyes there's a NEW version!!!!!!!!04:35
apokryphosstrike4ce: use the one provided on the wiki link I sent you04:35
orugo5.10 official04:35
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apokryphosindeed :)04:35
orugocheck www.kubuntu.org04:35
duderhow do I get the regular games that usually comes with an OS?04:35
orugo(am i the first that saw that?)04:36
Ravenskyhey, which repo can I get the MS core fonts in?04:36
apokryphosorugo: obviously not :). Check the /topic04:36
orugoahahahahah04:36
strike4ceapokryphos: I dont have synaptic I have kynaptic04:36
orugo:P04:36
orugowell04:36
navyni did a google search on the scanner model, and I have a page called scanner.h that has my scanner drivers listed in it, but i don't know what to do with that information04:36
orugotks a lot04:36
orugohey04:36
kaandis there a reason kubuntu-desktop is being kept back on apt-get upgrade? It's been like that since RC104:36
orugowhen i upgrade04:36
orugoi will lost my configS?04:36
orugoplz no04:36
orugoahah04:36
apokryphos!enter04:36
ubotudon't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!04:36
apokryphosstrike4ce: I'm not telling you to use synaptic04:36
orugosorry04:36
apokryphosstrike4ce: it tells you how to upgrade by just using apt and editing the file04:37
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apokryphoskaand: you should be doing an apt-get dist-upgrade04:38
navynwhenever I do lsusb it shows there too04:38
kaandfrom the RC1?04:38
kaandi didn't know I had to do that from the release candidate04:38
duderanyone know how to make firefox the default browser?04:38
apokryphoskaand: sure; why not?04:39
orugoaporyphos: hey i have to upgrade ALL the packages from synaptic? they're a lot04:39
apokryphosduder: systemsettings -> user account -> default applications04:39
Ravenskyerr...umm...when I installed phpbb and wordpress through Adept, where'd it put them?04:39
duderthank u04:39
apokryphosorugo: if you want breezy, yes.04:39
kaandi was already at breezy, i though the regular upgrades would keep me04:39
navynsomebody told me a cat command, and it shows in that too04:40
apokryphoskaand: nope; see man apt-get  for the difference04:40
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`Nomadravensky:  At teh very worst, to find the folders do an "sudo updatedb"  and then an "slocate ordpress"  for example :)04:41
kaandit would be awesome if this fixes my sound but it doesn't seem to be upgrading anything sound related :(04:41
RavenskyI dont get why ubuntu uses sudo instead of just using the root user. Easier that way?04:41
orugoapokryphos, tks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!04:42
apokryphosRavensky: superior model04:42
orugoyou really helped me04:42
orugotks!04:42
duderanyone know how to get games like minesweeper?04:42
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apokryphosnp =)04:42
orugohey04:43
strike4ceapokryphos: i putting that exact command for apt and its not working04:43
orugois breezy better than 5.04?04:43
apokryphosstrike4ce: are you sure you altered your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly?04:43
`Nomad.06 better04:44
`Nomad:)04:44
apokryphosorugo: it's newer, faster, has more features etc etc04:44
lwellsneed to use sudo04:44
strike4ceapokryphos: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:44
orugook04:44
orugoi'll install it04:44
apokryphosstrike4ce: well, only if you *have* gedit, but sure...04:44
orugo(455 mb!!)04:44
orugohaha04:44
strike4cewhat If I dont?04:44
strike4cethen what?04:44
jsubl2kate04:44
duderanyone know how to get games like minesweeper?04:45
apokryphosstrike4ce: use the instructions for kde04:45
apokryphosstrike4ce: you might need to refresh the wiki page; I just added it in04:45
orugohey04:45
orugoi have problems with my sound04:45
orugowhat should i do04:45
duderme to orugo04:45
kaandman, sound is a pretty big problem this release04:46
orugo:(04:46
orugowhat bout breezy?04:46
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Octanegod damn kubuntu 5.10 is amazing04:46
orugoaahahaa04:46
orugoreally?04:46
orugooh04:46
orugoill download it now04:47
orugohaha04:47
orugo!!04:47
ubotusomebody said ! was what you add before a sentence to talk to me04:47
kinfoi don't understand.04:47
kaandi didn't until i did the fresh breezy install04:47
MPCOctane: in what way?04:47
kaandworked ok in hoary/warty04:47
strike4ceapo04:47
OctaneMPC: just is :)04:47
MPClike the sun comin' up, eh?04:47
strike4ceapokryphos:  ok sorry lol now how do i see if it took the changes?04:48
apokryphosstrike4ce: if the file is altered, and you saved it, then they're there :)04:48
strike4ceok04:48
_douglasWhat package do I install so that kde automatically picks up my pendrive? Right now it says error loading media://sda1 or something.???04:48
kaandthat's because it actually loads it with the name of the device now04:49
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kaandat least for me04:49
_douglasoh, so how do I make it work?04:49
kaandbefore is was media://sda1 but now it's media://CARBON04:50
kaandor whatever04:50
_douglasI can mount it manually with sda1 though.04:50
strike4ceapo04:50
kaandoh04:50
strike4ceapokryphos: How do i get torrent?04:50
apokryphosstrike4ce: why do you want it? :P04:51
kaandweird, it worked fine apart from that error message for me04:51
`Nomad!imap04:51
ubotu`Nomad: I give up, what is it?04:51
`Nomad:(04:51
strike4ceapokryphos: its faster than apt-get right?04:51
_douglasIt used to work fine for me until I reinstalled with the release candidate disc.04:51
_douglasperhaps I'll do a dist-upgrade and see if it help.04:51
apokryphosstrike4ce: if the server stayed bogged down.. yeah, prolly04:51
apokryphosstrike4ce: /topic04:51
_douglasalthough I did one last night though.04:51
strike4ceapokryphos: I finally got apt get going thanx for your patience and putting up with my dumbass, its was so easy04:52
apokryphos=)04:52
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apokryphosif anyone wants the kubuntu breezy i386 iso: http://giannaros.org/ubuntu/ISOs/Breezy/04:53
_bradysomeone mentioned a problem earlier with delayed sound...I just realized it's happening to me too. Noticed it with the flash player 04:54
strike4ceapokryphos: I have a intel pentium m shouldnt it be i686?04:54
apokryphosthere is no i686 iso04:55
apokryphosbut apt doesn't use the ISOs of course04:55
strike4ceapt get is slow04:56
apokryphosindeed04:56
strike4celol04:56
apokryphoshigh-traffic04:56
strike4cehow many hours you think it will take?04:56
apokryphosno idea; the servers are really bogged down because of the publicity04:57
strike4ceapo04:57
apokryphoswith the release n' all04:57
strike4ceapokryphos: you think it would be alright for me to leave it?04:57
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strike4cealnight04:57
apokryphossure04:57
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_bradyare you upgrading via apt?04:57
apokryphosbut if you have a fast server you could just wait for some time and then it would do it all in one go04:57
MEtaLpREsman the servers really are slow, taking a few mins just to get small libs updates04:58
apokryphosyup04:58
strike4ceapokryphos: im on broadband04:58
MEtaLpREsthey should have sprung for more bandwidth before the release, they must have known they were going to get hit hard like this04:59
strike4ce_brady: im using apt04:59
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strike4ceDamn how popular is this?04:59
apokryphosvery :)04:59
apokryphosespecially after the /.05:00
strike4ceWhy isnt it on TV?05:00
MEtaLpREslucky for them bittorrent is around to spread the iso's or they would be in real trouble right now05:00
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apokryphosyup05:00
omni_lonnieso who has successfully updated?05:00
omni_lonnieeveryone here? 05:01
MEtaLpREsi have05:01
omni_lonnieI'm still in mid apt-get... :(05:01
strike4cenot yet05:01
apokryphosa few months ago, yes :)05:01
MEtaLpREsbut i only went from the RC to final05:01
strike4cewhat number?  LOL05:01
omni_lonnieheh!05:02
strike4ceim still on get 905:02
strike4celol05:02
apokryphosouch!05:02
strike4ceSays 4 hrs though05:02
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strike4cemust be bogged down bad in my area05:03
apokryphosin general it is, yup05:03
apokryphos!mirrors05:03
ubotufrom memory, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive05:03
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apokryphosgotta wake up in 4 hours :/05:03
strike4celol05:03
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omni_lonnieI've apt-getting for about 6-7 hours and I still have 2-3 to go...  but it'll be worthi it!05:04
strike4cebetter be05:04
strike4ceopen office is big!05:04
omni_lonniewell I'm a PHP dev and it's worth it jsut to have a "native" PHP 5 :)05:05
_bradycurrent bt stats: 53 kBps down 3 kBps05:06
_brady3 kBps up*05:07
crimsunduder: back. Have you resolved your sound issue?05:08
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zojakwhat is better for a linux noob, kde or gnome?05:14
zojakcoming from windows05:14
jbeasleykde05:14
crimsunzojak: either. Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu are reasonable.05:15
claydohIf I enable root password, how do I undo it?05:16
jbeasleyundo?05:17
claydohyes, get rid of it05:17
jbeasleyyou can't really get rid of it.  The default is a random password.05:18
jbeasleydo you want to change it?05:18
claydohno05:18
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claydohI can do that, just thought there might be a way to go back to rootless sudo05:19
claydohI can always set the password to something I will easily forget :)05:19
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_johni am trying to setup a SMB share as a mount point, and i was wondering what to type in the dialouge, as it isnt letting me browse05:28
Ravenskywhere's the cgi-bin for Apache2?05:29
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_johnfigured it out05:34
_johninstalled smbfs and used other stuff05:34
NeoFax12Having a problem with cups.  It will not print.05:35
NeoFax12I get an error about opening /dev/lp005:35
NeoFax12The ownership is root:lp, but I think it should be lpadmin for group05:36
NeoFax12BTW I am using Kubuntu Breezy05:36
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woddf2Haldo05:43
woddf2How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?05:43
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NeoFax12woddf2: What version of kubuntu?05:44
woddf2I'm on 5.10.05:44
NeoFax12apt-get install sndconfig05:44
NeoFax12Also, you may want to check lsmod and lshw05:45
woddf2apt-get said it couldn't find sndconfig.05:46
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NeoFax12woddf2: Guess they removed sndconfig05:48
`Nomad!amarok05:48
ubotuI heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/05:48
NeoFax12Try using lshw to find out if linux is recognizing the card and then use lsmod to see if the drivers are loaded05:49
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lwellsi updated to Breezy, how do I know if it worked05:51
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lwellsHow can I tell if i am running on Breezy?05:54
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BlankBcat /etc/issue is always an easy way.05:56
lwellsyep thanks05:56
lwellsBreezy Badger05:57
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lwellsI do not see the update tool anymore05:58
lwellswhat was the name of that tool under KDE, i cannot remember05:59
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korksterhello all :)06:00
lwellskpakage?06:00
NeoFax12lwells: Adept is the default update tool for kubuntu now06:00
lwellsWhere is that ?06:01
NeoFax12BTW, why is it the group rights for lp[0-9]  is lp instead of lpadmin which cups needs?06:01
NeoFax12lwells: Alt+F2 then type in adept06:01
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lwellsSaid it could not find the command06:02
NeoFax12OK, then in a konsole do apt-get update && apt-get install adept06:03
korksterNeoFax12 Does adept not get installed automatically when you upgrade?06:04
NeoFax12I am not sure about that, as I installed Kubuntu rc1 and upgraded from that and it came default06:05
cddesjarkorkster: no06:05
NeoFax12If you want adept just do the same thing as I said to lwells06:05
lwellsMaybe I did not do the install correctly?06:05
cddesjarsynaptic is much better than adept06:05
korksteryah installed Hoary clean, did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and Im currently doing a dist-upgrade06:05
korksterto Breezy that is06:06
korksterAfter doing the dist upgrade, do I need to do anything else?06:06
korksterlike do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop again?06:06
korksterI'd think I wouldnt06:07
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NeoFax12korkster: No, as it matches the debs you currently have on your system with replacements in the new apt repos06:08
cddesjarkorkster: nope06:08
MarcCcan anyone show me to a working sources.list for breezy kub/ub?06:08
cddesjar!sources06:08
ubotuit has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)06:08
MarcCsank you06:09
cddesjarnp06:09
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lwellssynaptic was not installed either06:10
cddesjarsynaptic wouldn't be06:11
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cddesjarkynpatic would06:11
cddesjarapt-get remove kynaptic --purge06:11
cddesjarapt-get install synaptic 06:11
cddesjar:)06:11
cddesjari think kynaptic sucks06:11
nutateSo i just moved here over a week from NY to Santa Monica, for a change of scene am job hunting so am free during the day and night. I do have some friends out here but they are all coupled up and i would like to have someone around to stop making me the third wheel. but i also would like to have a lil fun and see what happens. Usually the guys i date have that rocker or rockabilly look, a little edgy, don't like khaki's or suits! Am looking for 06:11
nutate06:12
nutate I was raised between Dublin and NY and went to university in London, UK. so my accent is all mixed up. So i am admitting i am lonely not sure how to go about meeting new friends, its weird. so am hoping to meet some intelligent, fun, witty, dry sense of humour people, who would like to go for a drink, to an art gallery, to the gym, the beach or go see some bands, my background is working in music. am a total music nut and usually go see bands 206:12
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nutate06:12
nutateSo i just moved here over a week from NY to Santa Monica, for a change of scene am job hunting so am free during the day and night. I do have some friends out here but they are all coupled up and i would like to have someone around to stop making me the third wheel. but i also would like to have a lil fun and see what happens. Usually the guys i date have that rocker or rockabilly look, a little edgy, don't like khaki's or suits! Am looking for 06:12
nutate06:12
nutate I was raised between Dublin and NY and went to university in London, UK. so my accent is all mixed up. So i am admitting i am lonely not sure how to go about meeting new friends, its weird. so am hoping to meet some intelligent, fun, witty, dry sense of humour people, who would like to go for a drink, to an art gallery, to the gym, the beach or go see some bands, my background is working in music. am a total music nut and usually go see bands 206:12
nutate06:12
nutateson of a sorry06:12
nutateso much for the live cd middle click on a thinkpad06:12
tshahanyway, I perfer installing via konsole06:13
cddesjari do too tshah 06:13
cddesjarapt-cache search06:13
cddesjarworks just as good as adept search or synaptic search06:13
tshahsometimes the installer needs your attention and kynapitic can ignore it (perfect example is installing bugzilla), another reason to use konsole06:14
cddesjaryeah that's a ubuntu modification though...if you install synaptic in debian you still get to interact with the console06:15
korksterthanks for your help...so seemingly, when the dist-upgrade finishes everything sshould just work as per usual then?06:16
korksterI probably should reboot I suppose :)06:17
tshahFrom personal experiance, you could theoridically just end your session06:17
cddesjarno you should need to reboot06:17
cddesjarmaybe refresh X06:17
cddesjaralt + backspace06:18
cddesjarbut if you want to boot into a new kernel, you'll need to reboot06:18
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korksterrefresh X??06:19
duderhow do I download something once I have found it using apt-cachce search?06:19
KevmanCan anyone tell me how to mount a samba share automatically?06:19
KevmanThere are instructions on the wiki, but the share has no logon or password.06:20
dudercan someone please tell me how do I download something once I have found it using apt-cachce search?06:20
Kevmanduder, sudo apt-get install packagename06:21
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duderthanks kevman06:22
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duderkevman I have heard many people talk about synaptic searching.. do u know how to do that?06:23
cddesjarthere's a search field06:24
Kevman? "sudo synaptic" will start synaptic. Then have fun.06:25
cddesjarsudo apt-get install <packagename>06:25
duderahha! thanks man ;)06:25
dudernow if I can get my sound working I will be good to go!06:25
cddesjarto remove:  sudo apt-get remove <packagename> --purge06:25
aliveuseri'm having problems making my cd eject?06:26
cddesjarsudo apt-get install alsa06:26
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cddesjarsudo eject06:26
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aliveuserbut06:26
aliveuseri want to fix the desktop opcion06:26
aliveuseroption06:26
satafterhis there a mirir for the dvd iso06:26
cddesjarwhat's your error06:26
satafterhmirror06:26
cddesjaryup06:26
duderso what does sudo stand for?06:26
cddesjargo to www.kubuntu.org06:26
cddesjarand go under the d/l tab06:26
tshah"sudo" is like "do this like an admin"06:27
duderthanks tshah06:28
satafterhthere is only one link for the dvd iso and torrent is corrupt06:28
aliveuserwhen i exec "sudo eject", cdrom dev is busy06:28
aliveuserbut i'm not using it06:29
aliveusergive me a minute06:29
tshahsatafterh, which kind of computer are you using?06:30
nutateduder: super user do06:30
tshahAMD64, regular Intel, Mac?06:30
korksterI just noticed that while it was unpacking Im getting alot of perl exceptions/probs regarding locale06:30
korksteris this normal?06:30
satafterhamd 2600 clone06:30
korkstersays that its "falling back to standard locale "C"06:31
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frank23korkster: I got those too06:33
SillyConedoes anybody know what warnings like "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" mean?06:33
frank23korkster: I don't think they mean anything06:33
korksterahh ok thanks frank2306:33
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tshahsatafterh, I can't seem to find any other mirrors. for the dvd, sorry06:34
satafterhtshah - thanks for trying06:35
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roothi there06:38
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blackflagHello all :-)06:46
judaxHey06:46
blackflagIm looking around directory services  under Linux06:47
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blackflagI want a centralised Auth in a lan06:47
blackflagsomething like ADS under M$06:47
blackflagis there something available for kubuntu and debian?06:48
crimsunlook for an openldap*06:48
blackflagYes I had a look06:48
blackflagbut but I dont know06:48
eracerbitanyone elses kicker totally non functional06:49
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blackflaghow I tell my ubuntu client06:49
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blackflagto auth against via ldap on a debian server06:49
korksterRebooted...everything seems just fine06:49
blackflagmaybe there is a complete solution I didnt found06:49
ali_What plug-in do I need to play MP3's?06:50
korksterexcept on one of my monitors, it says "Testing Unstable"06:50
korksternot sure what thats all about06:50
blackflagyou know what I mean?06:51
blackflagthe access to thge client should be managed by the ldap server06:51
BlankBSo after doing a instal with the iso how many megs of updates are there (if any) to apt-get update?06:52
blackflagbut cant find a useful discription todo so06:52
judaxali_: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:54
judaxBlankB: it is not large (relative I know), I don't know the exact MB, but I use dsl so...06:57
BlankBwell here I go....backup then upgrade time. 8)06:58
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blackflagyou know: asingle sign on machine for my linux clients06:59
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duderwhen I type sudo synaptic in my terminal it says command not found... is this not the right command?07:00
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ubuntuHello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...07:02
ubuntuAnyone here?07:03
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LaserLineHello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...07:05
kkathmanhi There ubuntu :)07:06
kkathmanLaserLine: I think there is, because it was updated during my upgrade07:06
kkathmanand it came from one of the basic repos07:06
kkathmanNow I cant validate that per se07:07
LaserLinekkathman I can't find it...07:07
kkathmanunless I have a site that uses Java07:07
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kkathmanLaserLine: did you try downloading it from Sun?07:09
LaserLinenope, thought there will be an easy way :-)07:11
kkathmanYah, I remember installing that SDK, and it was very much of an ordeal07:12
satafterhhttp://counter.li.org/07:13
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crimsunkkathman: icon text vs. property text?07:27
kkathmancrimsun: Yes, the text underneath the icon usually is the same as the Property text..and the remote icons are not07:28
crimsunmaybe a cache sync issue?07:28
crimsun(I use GNOME)07:29
kkathmanahh ok07:29
kkathmannm07:29
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cyneanyone know good tools for slicing images in web development ?07:30
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kkathmanHmm unusual now that I cannot delete a remote share icon either...very odd07:32
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cyneanyone know good tools for slicing images in web development ?07:34
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kkathmancyne: about the only decent graphic tool I know in the linux world is GIMP07:35
cynekkathman: sure but i don't see any slicing tools like in photoshop07:35
kkathmancyne: Agreed...its why I still keep my win box around...to use photoshop07:36
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cynebugger that, i use vmware :)07:37
cynespose i should just install it , heh :)07:37
cyne( photoshop )07:37
kkathmanI tried using that and use wine and that crossover thing...none worked with any kind of reliability or level of detail07:37
cynevmware works fine07:38
kkathmanso I just use my win box for that07:38
cynevery reliable07:38
kkathmanyou've used it with photoshop?07:38
cynewell, no, but i've thrown everything else at it07:38
cynei will let you know i'm going to install it now07:38
hellionhello.   im looking for help configuring  either kaffeine or vlan or something for NSV streams07:38
kkathmanyah...I did too, and photoshop runs, but the detail to work on a drawing just isnt there under an emulator07:39
cynekkathman: then use it full screen07:39
kkathmancyne I did.. I guess I just prefer the native :)07:39
kkathmanI mean if you spend the $700 for the package, why not run it as it was meant :)07:39
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cyneindeed07:40
hellioncan anyone help configuring to receiving NSV streams?07:40
kkathmanI'd just like to know why the heck I cant delete my share icons from my desktop in breezy!07:41
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satafterhhope 10million in the ubuntu fund is enough to keep it around for along timee07:45
KevmanHow can I get transperancies to work in Kubuntu?07:52
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lwellswhat is the website to past problems into the discussion??07:57
BlankBpasetbin.com is one.07:59
BlankBoops..pastebin.com07:59
lwellsthanks08:01
lwellsI am having this problem trying to update to Breezy http://pastebin.com/39317908:02
lwellsI am wondering if i need to fix the sources.list file08:03
lwellsThis is what i have in the sources.list file now http://pastebin.com/39318108:05
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BlankBline 1 you still have hoary cd. but that shouldnt be too big of a problem.08:06
lwellsYea , i was wondering that too, but no big deal right?08:07
lwellsAm I missing a line?08:07
BlankBHere is a minimalist one. I just took what was in mine after a fresh install of breezy and removed all the lines that were commented out. http://pastebin.com/39318408:09
BlankBSince its so small it may help you debug.08:09
lwellsThanks let me try that08:10
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lwellsNow I am getting a GPG error08:14
BlankBput that on the pastebin. 08:15
lwellsok08:15
lwellshttp://pastebin.com/39318708:16
BlankBthats odd...was that while running apt-get update08:17
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lwellsno, the apt-get dist-upgrade08:18
BlankBbut apt-get update worked just fine?08:18
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lwellssorry , yes the update process is where it happened08:19
lwellsfunny,now i screwed up my laptop08:21
aftertafgpg error doesnt matter that much.08:21
BlankBtry apt-key list and compare it to: http://pastebin.com/39319408:21
lwellsAfter the update, now it just goes to the command promp08:21
BlankBI did a full backup of old system and started fresh with breezy.08:22
aftertaflwells:  thats normal. to return to cmd prompt.08:22
lwellswell lucky i had no data08:22
aftertafrerun dist-upgrade and itll say 0 to install/upgrade.08:22
lwellsok08:23
aftertafhave you rebooted?08:23
aftertafnew kernel & all....08:23
lwellsi did reboot08:23
lwellsthe prompt says it is now breezy08:24
aftertaflwells:  but no X?08:26
lwellsright08:26
aftertaflwells:  what does startx give as an error?08:26
lwellssure does08:27
aftertafyeah :) but what error?08:27
lwellssaid it was unable to connect to x server08:27
aftertafwhat reason?08:28
lwellsxinit: connection refused (errno 111)08:28
lwellscan i just install X again?08:29
aftertafcnn refused?   ok. delete the .ICEauthority file in your home08:29
aftertaflwells:  wont help, and not needed.08:29
lwellsjust delete that file?08:29
aftertafis kdm stopped?   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:29
aftertafyep delete it !08:30
aftertaf.ICE.....08:30
lwellswhere is that file08:31
aftertafdid kdm stop?08:31
aftertafin your home.08:31
lwellsyes08:31
aftertafcool.08:31
aftertafcd ~/08:31
aftertafitsa hidden file08:31
aftertafare you in your home directory?08:32
lwellsyep, no .iceauthority file there08:33
lwellsyea there it is 08:33
aftertafeven with ls -A08:33
lwellshold on08:33
aftertafhidden :)08:33
lwellsok gone08:33
aftertafok.08:34
lwellsnow what08:34
aftertafnow, try startx again, and give me the exact error08:34
lwellsgives me some permission denied in the /usr/bin/startx08:35
lwellsand a xinit:server error08:35
lwellsno error number this time, just says xinit: Server error08:36
lwellsoh it does say:08:36
lwellscreating new authority file ... .serverauth.409408:37
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aftertaflwells:  weird that..... 08:38
aftertaftry sudo startx08:38
lwellsok08:38
aftertaf(just for test. never run X as root otherwise)08:38
lwellsno permission deny anymore, but same xinit: Server error08:39
lwellsNO errno08:39
lwellsis the "creating new authority file" normal?08:39
aftertaflwells:  wha is your gfx card?08:39
aftertaflwells:  yep. deleted old one (.ICE...)08:40
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Tallia1[UbuntU] hi guys,.."08:40
lwellsno clue, but worked before the upgrade08:40
Tallia1[UbuntU] i need a speed help.. i forgot how fstab work.. and i need a very fast thing since i am configuring my new ipod nano on linux08:40
aftertaflwells:  type lspci08:40
aftertaf!mount08:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives08:40
aftertafTallia1[UbuntU] :  ^^^^^^^^^^^08:41
Tallia1[UbuntU] but i can't understand why i can't mount as normal user 08:41
lwellsCommand not found08:41
lwellsopps typed it wrong08:41
Tallia1[UbuntU] dev/sda2        /media/ipod    hfs      noauto,rw,user0 008:41
Tallia1[UbuntU] with a slash at the beginning of the line obviously..08:41
lwellsnVidia card08:42
aftertaflwells:  oki. :)08:42
Tallia1[UbuntU] please help me i have only this evening to work on this thing...!!08:42
aftertaflwells:  1st thing..... we'll edit your xorg.conf file.08:42
Tallia1[UbuntU] aftertaf: ? plz ?!08:42
aftertafsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:42
lwellsok, where is that08:42
aftertafTallia1[UbuntU] :  i dont know, ive never done that. 08:42
aftertafTallia1[UbuntU] :  try on #ubuntu....08:42
BlankBtallia...: is there a space after user and before 008:43
Tallia1[UbuntU] i am only asking you how i can configure my fstab 08:43
lwellssays new file08:43
aftertafTallia1[UbuntU] :  i'm a newb for most things.......08:43
aftertaflwells:  not god.08:43
Tallia1[UbuntU] and if the line i paste before is right to allow a normal user to mount that partition08:43
aftertaf*good08:43
lwellsok08:43
aftertaflwells:  quit nano, type cd /etc/X1108:43
Tallia1[UbuntU] ubotu: and you can you tell me why i can't mount as a normal user this drive?08:44
ubotuTallia1[UbuntU] : I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about08:44
Tallia1[UbuntU] dev/sda2        /media/ipod    hfs      noauto,rw,user0 008:44
aftertafcase sensitive.....08:44
aftertafbrb08:44
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  : in what you pasted there is no whitespace after user.?08:44
lwellsno directory08:44
lwellsman what a mess08:44
Tallia1[UbuntU] there's a lot of space after user08:44
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: several tabs and spaces 08:45
lwellsyes got it sorry08:45
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  ahh...I just dont see it here.08:45
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  well what error does it return when you try to mount it as a user?08:46
lwellsok, in the config file, just a mistype08:46
Tallia1[UbuntU] i'm trying to add the option "umask=000" since in the past i resolved my problems with that08:46
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Tallia1[UbuntU] it tells me that i haven't got enough permissions!!08:46
Tallia1[UbuntU] mount: only root can do that08:46
aftertaflwells:  hehe ok.08:47
lwellssorry, fat fingers08:47
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  Copy and paste your /etc/fstab to http://blankb.pastebin.com/08:47
lwellswhat do i need to look for08:48
aftertaflwells:  scroll down and find Section "Device" that mentions your gfx card.08:48
aftertafyou'll have "nv" or "nvidia" as module name08:48
aftertafDriver name*08:48
Tallia1[UbuntU] http://rafb.net/paste/results/MfwQzz58.html08:48
lwellsok there08:49
Tallia1[UbuntU] umask=000 has been detected as  a wrong option.. :(08:49
aftertaflwells:  what you you have as driver?08:49
aftertafTallia1[UbuntU] :  where did you put it int the line?08:49
lwellsteh Nvidia08:49
lwellsthe08:49
lwellsnv is the driver08:50
aftertaflwells:  ok.08:50
lwellsso it is not the graphics card?08:50
aftertafnv: open source on accelerated version of driver08:50
aftertafnon*08:50
Tallia1[UbuntU] ??08:50
kinfowhat?08:50
Tallia1[UbuntU] aftertaf: ? what do you mean?08:50
aftertafTallia1[UbuntU] :  where in the line did you put the umask option.?08:51
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  is /media/ipod +x and +w  the user or world?08:51
aftertaflwells:  return to console...... 08:51
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lwellsok there08:51
Tallia1[UbuntU] yes,, 08:51
aftertaflwells:  what processor do you have?08:51
Tallia1[UbuntU] i can mount the drive if i do the operation as root08:51
lwellsit is a pentium 408:51
Tallia1[UbuntU] but when you mount as root, you have only read access .. and the program can't work since its work is syncronize these directories08:52
aftertafok. lwells type: sudo apt-get install  linux-68608:52
lwellsok08:52
Tallia1[UbuntU] i've put the umask in the beginning of the options08:52
aftertaf(grabs an optimised kernel...)08:52
Tallia1[UbuntU] like for the others /dev/sda /dev/sdb lines08:52
aftertaflwells:  does it also mention it wil install 686-restricted?08:53
lwellsin the errors?08:53
aftertaflwells:  nope, when you rune the apt-get command?08:54
lwellsok. let me see08:54
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  so when you type: mount /dev/sda2 /media/ipod  it returns: "mount: only root can do that" ?08:54
lwellsit says it could not find package linux-68608:55
Tallia1[UbuntU] y08:55
BlankBas the user I mean.08:55
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: yes08:55
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: exactly.. but when i mount as root everything function..!08:55
aftertaflwells:  you typed exactly as i did?  all smallcase?08:55
aftertaflwells:  weird.....    this pc is upgraded to breezy?  is it conneted to internet?08:56
lwellsit is connected yes08:56
lwellsand it is upgraded to Breezy08:56
aftertaftype uname -a, wat is the result?08:57
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: here it is what happens.. precisely..08:57
Tallia1[UbuntU] http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wI11d70.html08:58
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wI11d70.html08:58
lwellslinux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:58
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: as you can see, everything can be mount correctly.. AS ROOT08:58
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cb68je viens de testeer kubuntu live08:59
cb68Mais tout est en anglais saut l'installation ?08:59
aftertaflwells:  ok. retry sudo apt-get install linux-68608:59
cb68estce normal ?08:59
aftertafcb68:  ch? pas, jamais test?08:59
aftertafcb68:  anglais pwns tout, :)09:00
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cb68Ho sorry I am on the english area ! sorry09:00
aftertaflol cb68 no pbs09:00
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lwellsstill could not find package linux-68609:00
cb68I thought I was on kubuntu-fr ! I did not take care 09:00
cb68I said I just tested the kubuntu live and all is in english is it normal ?09:01
aftertafok try this,    apt-cache search linux-*09:01
aftertafcb68:  je sais :) gcompris09:01
aftertafcb68:  cant you chage in regionalisation, to french?09:01
cb68Question is kubuntu live 510 multilingual ?09:01
aciDHeadhi09:01
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: ??09:01
dudercan someone tell me what this means and what I can do? this is what pops up when turn on my kubuntu system. I get no sound. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39320709:02
lwellsIt found alot09:02
aciDHeadis there already an apt source for kde 3.43 ??09:02
cb68I try to change the language and the choise was Us english ou UK english09:02
aftertaflwells:  did you type apt-get update?09:02
lwellsnot recently09:02
aciDHeadyes09:02
lwellsdo it again?09:02
aciDHeadno effect09:02
aftertafaciDHead:  yes. lwells yes09:03
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BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  I am trying it right now...just a sec.09:03
aftertafaciDHead:  but i cant give you it i removed it, now on 3.5 beta09:03
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: kkk09:03
aciDHeadaftertaf: is it stable 3.5 ?09:03
lwellsDoes not appear to work 09:03
aftertaflwells:  error?09:04
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aftertafaciDHead:  beat==not stable, but seems fine to me.09:04
lwellsit says "Could't stat source package list...09:04
aftertafbeta*09:04
aciDHeadaftertaf: can you find the source for me ? again ?09:04
aftertaflwells:  paste me one line of your souorces.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)09:05
aftertafaciDHead:  erf.... i got it from the topic here.. ill have a peek.09:05
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  If it makes you feel any better I cant mount anything as a user either. Still looking into why.09:05
aftertafaciDHead:  deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ breezy-updates main09:06
aftertafaciDHead:  try httping there, see if kde343 exists09:06
lwells"deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"09:06
aftertafok09:06
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lwellsYou know, not sure it is connecting to the internet anymore09:08
aftertafyeah.09:08
aftertafsounds that way. whats the conection type?09:08
lwellspci wireless card09:09
aftertafomg :/09:09
aciDHeadaftertaf: i know that.. but there is nothing.. maybe i wait a day or two09:09
lwellsmaybe i should use a direct connection for now?09:09
lwellswhat?09:09
aftertafif you type iwconfig, you have an ip?09:09
lwellsit says no wireless extentions09:10
aftertafcome over to #ubuntu..... i can't help you on this part :/09:10
lwellsok09:11
aftertaflwells:  try this for X though....    sud spkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:11
aftertafsudo*09:11
lwellsok09:11
aftertafand see you on #ubuntu ;)09:12
lwellsspkg?09:12
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: :( ;( i can upload informations to my ipod but i can't update the library file.. since it is write protected..09:12
Tallia1[UbuntU] and if i start the syncro application as root the situation doesn't change.. UHEEE09:13
Tallia1[UbuntU] help!09:13
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: in the manual it was said to put the line: /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat noauto,rw,user 0009:13
Tallia1[UbuntU] that is what i have done before coming here..09:14
lwellsthat did not work09:15
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RezDawgCan someone helpp me out, I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy but now kaffine is gone and firefox.  I went to package manager and updated everything but I still get... Service '/home/default/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop' is malformatted.09:17
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aciDHeadis 5.10 final ??09:19
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  I see what you are saying. I cant get my firewire drive to mount as a user either.09:19
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: this is weird!!09:19
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: i found this page on hfs filesystem 09:21
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/Students/hargrove/HFS/README-2.html09:21
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: and also here it is said to use UID to set the permissions..09:22
BlankBYeah the firewire drive I am using is formatted ext2. And I cant mount as a user. Im sure I am just overlooking something.09:23
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Tallia1[UbuntU] me too09:25
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LaserLineAnyone could help me with Sun's JAVA ?09:31
LaserLineI installed it using the Wiki - Restricted formats, I can use it with Konqueror but Firefox doesn't  What can I do ?09:31
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LaserLineAnyone ?09:32
BlankBargh. That was not fun.09:32
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: ?09:33
Tallia1[UbuntU] get the message?09:33
RezDawgLaserLine: you have to link it to firefox09:33
BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  nope...Konversation crashed and wouldnt restart till I rebooted.09:34
LaserLinehow ?09:34
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: ok09:34
RezDawgLaserLine: well ive only done it once, so im not the one to ask09:34
RezDawgLaserLine: i read  a wiki and did it09:34
Tallia1[UbuntU] BlankB: now?09:34
LaserLineWhat Wiki ? 09:34
RezDawgLaserLine: let me look to see if i can find it09:35
seaLne!Restricted formats09:35
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'09:35
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BlankBTallia1[UbuntU]  didnt get anything.09:36
Tallia1[UbuntU] mhh, send me a mail at public DOT andrea DOT tagliasacchi AT gmail DOT com if you find out somethign09:37
Tallia1[UbuntU] i have to reboot09:37
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RezDawgLaserLine: did you get that ?09:41
LaserLineYes. thanks09:42
BlankBdoeth. Figured it out and now tallia1 is gone.09:43
aftertafBlankB:  got his mail?09:43
aftertafand BlankB what was the answer?09:44
aftertaf:)09:44
BlankByep. If he doesnt come back soon I will email.09:44
BlankBI was too sleepy...A user should mount like: mount /dev/sda1   not as mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint09:44
BlankBin fstab I have: /dev/sda1       /tmp/testmount  auto    user 0 009:45
BlankBand as a user only these 2 commands will mount it: mount /dev/sda1 or mount /tmp/testmount09:45
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andrea_BlankB: found something?09:46
BlankBI was too sleepy...A user should mount like: mount /dev/sda1   not as mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint09:47
BlankBand as a user only these 2 commands will mount it: mount /dev/sda1 or mount /tmp/testmount09:47
BlankBin fstab I have: /dev/sda1       /tmp/testmount  auto    user 0 009:47
BlankBso yours would just be: mount /media/ipod as the user09:47
andrea_now i try09:48
LaserLineRezDawgThere is only Mozila, no firefox... what to do ?09:48
andrea_and this is possible with the user option?09:48
andrea_or with which option in the line..09:49
andrea_BlankB: ?09:49
BlankBthe user option.09:49
andrea_i'll try09:49
seaLneshouldn't hotplug be automounting things?09:51
BlankBusually.09:51
andrea_VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda2.09:51
andrea_weird...09:52
andrea_i'll put auto09:52
andrea_since when i mount manually it is ok09:52
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nikkiaseaLne: no, hotplug doesn't 'automount', it just handles /dev09:59
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gibarianHello everyone...does by any chance anyone of you have problems with gstreamer as well?10:00
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buzgibarian: my kaffeine refuses to play dvds and stuff even though all the libs are installed10:14
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sekundekhi!. 10:16
sekundekCan anybody help with problem of USB key mounting10:16
sekundeki get error " The file or folder media:/sda does not exist."10:16
gibarianbuz: well, my kaffeine is acting all weird too. Can't open gstreamer, but crashed while opening files when using xine-engine...I think that whole things is extremely broke!10:16
buzmhh my xine works10:16
buzso does vlc so i dont care too much10:16
buzkaffeine ahs been a pain to use for me anyhwo10:17
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buzhas anyone used http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/09/29/45-easy-ubuntu-2310:19
gibarianunfortunately, xine crashes when opening too...and VLC tends to choke on sound issues...ah, if only I hadn't upgraded to breezy10:19
crimsunwhat sound issues with vlc?10:20
gibarianoh...well, right now it just randomly crashes....but for some files it doesn't seem to fin the right module...I'm right now reinstalling every multimedia component of KDE...let's see if that'll change anything10:22
crimsunerr no, don't do that10:23
crimsunredirect the output from vlc -vvv10:23
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crimsunto a text file, bzip2 it, and e-mail it to me.10:23
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vegiVamphello10:31
vegiVampCould someone tell me how and where I disable automatic starting of kscd and konqi when I insert an audio cd ? I'm running breezy.10:32
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chakieis katapult supposed to do something in a newly installed breezy? i can't find it in the menus and running "katapult" from the commandline gives me nothing11:11
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chakiejust a few lines of "Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror" and similar11:12
chakienor does the new "System settings" really work, i clicked "Appearance" and then it broke...11:12
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chakiestarting katapult again made it show up with alt-space11:14
sorush20I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found... but I can mount the floppy and browse11:15
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sorush20why I try to mount I get this message sam@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/fd0 mount: mount point /media/fd0 does not exist11:17
martah, quick q: anyone have an url to the kde3.5 packages?11:18
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Jackoanyone know how to get the window toolbar in konqueror and the konsole window inside konqueror?11:20
martJacko: Window->Show terminal emulator11:22
JackoI dont have the window menu for some weird reason11:22
marteep!11:22
Jackoyeah11:23
Jackoand it's a clean new install of kubuntu breezy11:23
jmghey guys good work11:26
jmgbut my hotkeys are all broken11:26
jmgi think it is xmodmap11:26
jmgbut i dont know what package to purge and reinstall11:26
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gibarianuh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore?11:32
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gibarianuh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore?11:34
gibarianuh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore? they do in dmesg, but no icon pops up in kde...11:34
Jackoanyone know how to get the window toolbar in konqueror?11:36
gibarianjacko: what do you mean?11:37
martJacko: perhaps it was disabled in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings?11:37
gibarianso...does anyone know if that hotplu system is borked for KDE?11:38
Jackomart: do you have the window toolbar?11:41
martJacko: or maybe the rc file in your .kde/share/apps/konqueror breaks it11:41
martJacko: yeah, I have it11:41
martbut I'm upgrading from 3.4.2 to 3.4.3/3.5 now11:41
JackoI don't suppose you could look at your ...11:42
Jacko/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc file and see if it has any reference to the window menu in there?11:42
martJacko: no, but the one in my home dir does...11:43
Jackoah11:43
martso presumably that overrides it11:43
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martJacko: do you have a "Go" menu?11:45
Jackolol nope11:45
martJacko: no, didn't think you would...11:46
mart(I do)11:46
martJacko: if you go to Configure Toolbars, you can add the Show Terminal Emulator action to an existing toolbar11:48
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Jackorighto11:49
martJacko: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/konqueror/konqueror.rc?view=auto11:50
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martthat's the default kde version of the konqueror config, you could put that into $HOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror if you want the default behaviour, I guess11:51
martum11:51
martno11:51
martnot that link11:51
marthttp://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/konqueror/konqueror.rc?view=auto11:51
Jackoah11:52
Jackocheers11:52
marthey, thank me if it works :)11:53
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Jackohm it didn't work but I finally figured out how to change profiles and now I can see it. Now how to find out how to get rid of all the other stupid profiles... Cheers for your help though mart12:00
martwow! there's a KDE development profile :)12:02
jmgprofiles?12:06
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martjmg: Konqueror, Settings->Load View Profile12:07
jmgmart: hhhhmmmmm12:07
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martjmg: hhmmm?12:08
jmgmart: gah what a shame12:08
jmgi left my laptop charger at work12:08
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vegiVampgibarian: check wether kded for media is active in control panel12:16
Jackojmg: well that has got to suck12:16
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gibarianvegiVamp: yep, it's running.12:18
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vegiVampand somewhere in desktop behaviour or so, wether it's allowed to show desktop icons for various mounted and unmounted devices12:19
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jeh_workdoes breezy support a normal ipod out of the box? or do i have to try to find some source for the ipodslave from somewhere?12:26
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jeh_workamarok at least claims to have some support for it, but what is needed for the "behind the scenes" ipod database sync?12:26
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jeh_workotherwise breezy seems like a really, really nice version12:32
jeh_workstuff just works12:32
aftertaf(tm)12:35
Tm_TKubuntu <412:38
Tm_Twhops12:38
Tm_T<312:38
oralcellol12:39
oralceljeh_work, exactly12:40
jeh_workat least after 1h of testing it's much nicer than hoary12:40
oralcelI'm tempted, just as an experiment, to install breezy on my familys comp and see how it works out12:41
jeh_workkatapult seems nice too, but the new control center (system settings?) was horribly buggy12:41
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boldiihi12:41
jeh_worki simply clicked on one icon in the system settings window, and the layout changed and then i couldn't get back anymore. horrible repaint issues too12:41
boldiiI accidently removed the menu entries from /etc/xdg/menus how can I get them back? 12:42
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jeh_workheh, if i try to purge the obsolete package "libgtk1.2" i seem to also purge packages like: kate-plugins, python-qt3 etc12:44
aftertafdont believe all that is obsolete ;)12:45
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jeh_workaftertaf: no, it isn't12:49
jeh_workaftertaf: that's what makes it slightly funny...12:49
aftertafhehe12:49
jeh_workbut gtk1.2 is obsolete, even in the gnome world12:49
aftertafi needed it to compile E.12:49
aftertaf-dev anyway12:50
jeh_worki don't even have E installed12:52
aftertafhehe  i do, now !12:52
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boldiianybody an idea where I can find the default kubuntu menu, that means in which package?12:55
aftertafboldii:  define, default menu...12:55
boldiiaftertaf: the menu I get when I install kubuntu the first time.12:56
aftertafthe "start" menu?12:56
aftertafits part of kicker i think, which is in kdebase, i think.12:57
aftertafyou want to restore the menu to default?12:57
boldiiaftertaf: yes.12:57
jeh_workah, there was a package for ipodlsave, it just wasn't default12:57
aftertafyou borked it?12:57
boldiiaftertaf: exactly ;)12:58
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aftertafhehe. dude, i sympathinse.    but i dont know howyou can do that.   what is happening? any error message?12:59
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boldiiaftertaf: well, erm, I removed /etc/xdg/menus (I was sure I had a backup)01:00
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aftertafwhat is xdg a part of?01:00
martaftertaf: it's just the standard place to put that kind of menu stuff01:01
aftertafyou could try a dpkg-reconfigure of kdebase01:01
aftertaf!info kicker01:01
ubotukicker: (desktop panel for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1638 kB, Installed size: 4904 kB01:01
aftertafor kicker, even...01:01
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boldiiaftertaf: kicker doesn't include this, I already checked that.01:01
CaiN_SAaftertaf, i figured the auto mounting out01:01
CaiN_SAstill having probs01:01
CaiN_SAbut will fix it01:02
aftertafboldii:  argh.    01:02
marter, if the files from /etc/xdg/menus have been deleted, just reinstalling the packages would replace them01:02
aftertafCaiN_SA:  nice to hear :)01:02
aftertafmart:  yeah, which package though?01:02
martaftertaf: any packages that have missing menu entries01:02
CaiN_SAaftertaf, the mounted things doesnt open correct tho, konqueror wants to open /dev/cdrom instead of /media/cdrom etc01:02
aftertafboldii:  what state is your K menu in right now?01:02
boldiiaftertaf: it is the menu of my former debian sarge installation.01:03
aftertafCaiN_SA:  yeah, i noticed.... does /dev/hdX too :/01:03
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boldiiI could remove kubuntu completely, I mean the virtual package and reinstall it, that should fix it, right?01:04
boldiibrb01:04
martboldii: er01:04
CaiN_SAaftertaf, so its normal ?01:04
martboldii: that's a bit overkill01:04
boldiimart: so what else could I do?01:05
martboldii: moment...01:05
boldiiok.01:05
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gsuvegre01:07
martboldii: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info && grep /etc/xdg/menus *.list | sed 's/.list:.*//'|sort|uniq01:07
gsuveganybody know a kde variant of audacity ?01:07
marttry reinstalling the packages it lists01:07
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nikkiagsuveg: there really isn't one, most of the audio editors are gtk based....01:09
boldiimart: thank you very much.01:09
nikkiagsuveg: you can usually get audacity to work via artsdsp or such, personally, i use sweep, wrapped to use jack using jack_launch01:09
aftertafcool :)01:09
gsuvegnikki with artsdsp or ?01:10
boldiicya01:10
aftertafnice one mart :)01:11
nikkiagsuveg: which wrapper you use depends on which sound api/server you're using01:11
nikkiagsuveg: jack is the best approach for serious audio stuff01:11
gsuvegnikki i never heard from it01:11
gsuvegits like the arts ?01:11
nikkiagsuveg: not quite, no01:11
nikkiagsuveg: its a more 'pro' orientated sound API that sits on top of alsa/oss for drivers01:12
gsuvegah01:12
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gsuvegnikki url of fm ?01:12
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nikkiafm?01:12
gsuvegfine manual01:13
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nikkiagsuveg: for jack? it'll be on jackit.sourceforge.net i imagine01:16
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gsuvegnikki thanks01:17
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Kinomeesi added a secondary video card. how to configure it ?01:29
djblizzzardYou may have to do this manually... I'm pretty new to kubuntu... but go into your xorg.conf and create another set of device and monitor settings for that video card...   You may also want to see if kubuntu has xinerama, as that will help xorg think that your working with one larger desktop than two seperate xorgs servers...01:32
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djblizzzardyou should be able to find a few examples if you google say "xorg dualhead" or something to that effect...01:33
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sedekihow do i add truetype fonts?01:37
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aftertaf!msttfcorefonts01:39
ubotuaftertaf: I haven't a clue01:39
sedekiaftertaf I don't have "msttfcorefonts" in universe01:40
sedekiAnd it's not only mscorefonts I want!01:41
aftertafah01:41
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sedekiyou have any clue?01:41
aftertafnope sorry01:42
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grosserHallo01:45
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jeh_workwhat should be the default g++ version for breezy?01:52
jeh_work3.3, 3.4 or 4.0?01:52
sedeki3.401:53
sedekino, sorry01:53
sedeki3.301:53
sedekino 3.4 i belive. let me check01:53
jeh_workok01:53
sedeki3.301:53
jeh_workok01:53
jeh_workthanks01:54
jeh_workwasn't there supposed to be this ABI change for breezy?01:54
grosserhello01:54
grosseri installed01:54
grosserkubuntu5.10 yet01:54
grossernow i looking for a programm (testdisk)01:55
sedekijeh_work I have no idea. check their homepage01:55
grosseri can`t download it over apt01:55
sedekigrosser okey, you need to edit your sources.list01:56
jeh_worksedeki: ok01:56
sedekisudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:56
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sedekiyou see this line ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ??01:57
kkathmanGreetings all :)01:57
sedekigrosser ?01:57
sedekikkathman greetings!01:57
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grossermoment01:57
kkathmanHi there sedeki :)01:58
kkathmanHow are you?01:58
Kinomeesif i put nvidia-glx-config enable then my X wont work :(01:58
grossersedeki: and than?01:58
sedekiKinomees have you read a nvidia tutorial?01:59
sedekigrosser do what it says, remove #'s in front of the lines under that commentblock01:59
grossersedeki: ok. i remove ##02:00
kkathmanHey sedeki, did you upgrade ok to breezy?02:00
sedekigrosser no!!02:00
sedekigrosser right under this line "## team."02:00
grosserwhat?02:01
sedekigrosser there should be two lines with only one # each02:01
grosserno02:01
sedekikkathman there are guides for upgrading to breezy02:01
grosseronly ##02:01
jeh_worksedeki: i think that 3.4 is the default compiler, at least qt is compiled with it02:01
kkathmansedeki: ya I know I upgraded last night :)02:01
jeh_workld: warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.502:01
sedekigrosser okey, stop editing without changes02:01
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jeh_work libstdc++.so.6 comes with g++-3.4, the .5 comes with 3.302:02
grossersedeki: ok02:02
sedekigrosser run sudo apt-setup02:02
grosseri stopped02:02
kkathmansedeki: Just had one little thing...the install put icons on my desktop for my samba shares labeled "Remote Share". I already had icons so I'd like to get rid of them, but I cant seem to delete them.02:03
grossersedeki: it runs02:03
grosserit need a cd02:04
sedekiKinomees http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver02:04
sedekigrosser no, skip CD02:04
sedekiyou want to add a FTP02:04
grosserbut by cd-reader doesn`t work02:04
Kinomeesok .. ill do it over again :P02:05
grossersedeki: ok02:05
grosserFTP02:05
kkathmannever mind I found it :)02:05
grosserchoose the country of the mirror02:06
sedekigrosser choose the closest mirror to you02:06
grossererror02:07
grosseri choosed german02:07
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sedekigrosser http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories02:08
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sedekithat's what you're actually doing. read it.02:08
kkathmanI suppose I should actually install adept02:09
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grosserok, i choosed schweiz02:09
grosserand it works02:09
thoreauputic!ubuntuguide02:09
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.02:09
kkathmangreets thoreauputic  :)02:09
thoreauputichi kkathman :)02:10
kkathmanaha!! adept was installed when I upgraded!! Excellent :)02:10
ephow does adept stack up against synaptic?02:12
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apokryphosnot too well, but it's gettin' there02:12
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pippolohello02:12
pippoloI tryed kubuntu 5.10 and I can't set gateway02:12
pippolothe live CD02:13
pippoloI modify gateway but it doesn't set it02:13
pippolowhich is the Kubuntu root password02:13
pippolo?02:13
apokryphos!root02:13
ubotuwell, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:13
kkathmangreetings apokryphos  :)02:13
apokryphoshey; how's it going? :)02:13
kkathmannot bad...completed my upgrade last night to breezy...took about 6 hours :)02:14
apokryphosouch02:14
apokryphosat least it got there eventually; how are you finding it?02:14
kkathmanyah..slow connection...I didnt use the mirrors02:14
kkathmanso far, so good...everything exactly the same as it was, except for java02:15
kkathmanapparently java didnt migrate02:15
pippolobreezy is not the final 5.10?02:15
sedekigrosser you should be able to install testdisk now02:15
apokryphoskkathman: you can get them from /msg ubotu javadebs02:16
apokryphospippolo: it is02:16
pippoloapokryphos: there is a bug at least into live-cd02:16
apokryphos..which is?02:16
pippoloapokryphos: you can't apply gateway changes02:16
kkathmanapokryphos: ok thanks....I really had a ordeal last time installing the java SDK02:16
pippoloat least into the CD-live02:17
apokryphoskkathman: there's debs so it should be ok; if you did the other method it could've been problematic, I'm sure.02:17
kkathmanapokryphos: you sure that was the right command...its says it doesnt know what the heck I'm talking about :)02:17
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apokryphoskkathman: *javadeb02:18
kkathmanahh ok02:18
pippolobye bye02:18
kkathmanhehe singular :)02:18
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apokryphosubotu: javadebs is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)02:18
ubotuapokryphos: okay02:18
mpmcErm, I'm trying to install Apache (1 series) with php support.. what packages do I need to install for it to work?02:19
apokryphosubotu: no javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)02:19
ubotuokay, apokryphos02:19
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mpmcAmy ideas?02:19
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sedekimpmc apache, libapache-mod-php4 ?02:20
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sedekimpmc or php4-cgi02:21
sedekii dont know.02:21
mpmcI've already installed that as well as trying to restart apache..02:21
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sedekimpmc you probably need to review your configfile02:22
sedekifor it to load php module02:22
mpmcwheres that?02:22
mpmc/etc/init.d/ apache?02:23
sedekino, the configfile.02:23
kkathmanI cant seem to find how to make firefox the default browser...that setting is missing in the 1.0.7 version that got installed :(02:23
sedekimpmc i think it's in /etc somewhere.02:23
sedekimpmc init.d/ is boot up scripts and etc.02:24
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kkathmandid they do away with the KDE Control Center?02:24
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mpmcI found it, but its already been added...02:25
mpmc<IfModule mod_php4.c>02:25
mpmc  AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php302:25
mpmc  AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps02:25
mpmc</IfModule>02:25
mpmcsee02:25
mpmcsry about that02:25
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sedekimpmc there is another file too.02:26
sedekiuhm, line.02:26
grossersedeki: ok, now i can download testdisk02:26
mpmcI don't know :/02:27
sedekimpmc wait.02:27
grossersedeki: problem02:27
grosserKann nicht auf die Liste http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backport                        s/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-b                        ackports_main_binary-i386_Packages) der Quellpakete zugreifen. - stat (2 Datei o                        der Verzeichnis nicht gefunden)02:28
sedekimpmc do you have a "LoadModule" line?02:28
mpmcHmm.. wait..02:28
dudehello all ,i'm using kubuntu 5.10 amd 64 and parts of the software/kde windows is freezing and it's show nothing in the this window but i can move to another window and after a while this window also freez sorry about the unxplainted quostion  but i don't know which details to add...02:28
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gibarianhey everyone...are there any known issues with breezy and the kded monitoring USB devices?02:37
Riddellgibarian: yes, it doesn't use hal02:39
Riddellgibarian: No 2 on my "things to fix today"02:39
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Kamping_KaiservegiVamp: coffee :)02:40
vegiVamphehe02:41
gibarianRiddell: Ah, great to see that I haven't borked the system myself...02:41
RiddellvegiVamp: fixed width font has a typo in it making konsole's font look weird02:41
gibarianRiddell: I started using that YaKuake thing...is that going to be included into the official release sometime?02:41
Riddellgibarian: yes, it'll replace konsole02:42
Riddell(not really)02:42
nikkiariddell, i've said it before, and i'll say it again, i'm weary of software that sounds like 'bukake' :P02:42
Riddellnikkia: that's my biggest complaint too02:42
Riddellyet another konsole quake I think this one is, yuck02:43
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gibarianyeah, terrible name, nice app02:43
gibarianand I like that katapult too...now that I've learned that you actually have to type something in order to start something ;)02:44
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xuniL____hello all,,,02:45
Riddellkatapult probably needs a prompot on first run02:45
Riddellhi xuniL____ 02:45
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ph8hi all02:45
xuniL____kubuntu.orgs homepage are buggy for me...02:45
apokryphosnikkia: heyhey :)02:45
nikkiahey apokryphos02:45
RiddellxuniL____: what's up?02:45
xuniL____can just see half lof the first letter..02:45
RiddellxuniL____: which browser?02:46
ph8I've just connected my Kubuntu to my university network, i need to mount a machine called hudson using samba, it's not working (connection to hudson failed) - do i need some sort of special samba configuration to use a large network like this? A way to list all available machines would be REALLY useful also - or links, don't really know a lot about it :(02:46
Riddellph8: try typing  smb:/  into konqueror02:46
ph8ah good call02:47
nikkiamost likely, you're not in the right workgroup/domain name02:47
nikkiausing smb:/ in konqueror should list the wg/domain's seen02:47
xuniL____can you play games like frozen throne on linux just having wine and not cedega?02:48
ph8apparently to mount my j drive (work drive on hudson) i should use the mount -t smbfs -o username=username,workgroup=mds02:48
ph8there's no mds group here02:48
ph8i can't actually get into any of them apart from one called 'Workgroup' and even then i can't access any of the machines in there02:48
ph8(add //hudson/username /mnt/jdrive) to th end of that cmd02:48
ph8any useful tips?02:49
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ph8.. please? ;)02:50
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xuniL____done 5% of the download now02:53
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xuniL____will reinstall linux tomarrow02:53
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ph8can anyone offer further wisdom?02:56
xuniL____shake02:57
Riddellph8: smb://hudson/username  in konqueror maybe02:57
Riddellalso if hudson has an ip address try using that as well02:57
ph8tried that in konqueror02:58
ph8errors out02:58
ph8'could not connect to host'02:58
ph8should there be any config i need to do?02:58
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ph8i have smbd and nmbd running02:58
ph8not sure of hudson's ip address :/02:58
ph8at least internally, i know its external but that doesn't work02:58
satafterhhas anyone dowloaded the dvd with success02:59
satafterhthe torrent that is02:59
xuniL____no but soon03:00
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ph8oops! Did i miss any profound wisdom?03:02
satafterhktorrent keeps saying it cant download the dvd torrent because it doesnt exsist or corrupt03:02
Riddellph8: I'm afraid not :(03:02
ph8bugger :/03:06
ph8means i can't do lots of my work03:06
ph8i just don't understand why it's not working03:06
ph8i know what to do03:06
ph8i'm going to hop to the windows partition and make sure it's mountable03:06
ph8later03:06
xuniL____a smal tip on an game Enemy territory... its greate and its free..03:07
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charolastrahi everyone03:07
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xuniL____hello03:07
OculusAquilaehello xuniL____03:08
charolastrain what package is the mp3 codec hidden?03:08
OculusAquilaegstreamer-mad03:08
OculusAquilaein multiverse03:08
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jalelno estou usando a distro Kunbutu e sim Kurumin --- estou dando suporte em um curso a distncia --- mesmo assim eh possvel receber suporte nesta sala ???? ou s para quem usa Kunbutu ???????03:10
xuniL____eng plz.---03:10
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hyperactivecrond!fr03:10
ubotufrom memory, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais03:10
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hyperactivecrond!es03:11
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:11
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hyperactivecrondgawd what language is he?03:12
hyperactivecrond!ne03:12
ubotuhyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:12
satafterhktorrent must havee a bug, i could not download dvd torrent with it but bittornado is working finee03:12
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hyperactivecrond!nd03:13
ubotuhyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:13
hyperactivecrondgrr idk 03:13
hyperactivecrondjalel: which language do you speak03:13
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strike4ceWhy do I still have the old Kynaptic package manager?03:15
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OculusAquilaestrike4ce: because you didn't remove it03:16
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strike4ceOculusAquilae:  How do I remove it?03:20
OculusAquilaestrike4cd: for example with Adept03:21
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claudiuhelo03:26
claudiuhello03:26
xuniL____hello claudiu03:26
claudiui can't install wesnoth. i am coming from gentoo and not too familiarized with this apt thing03:26
claudiui tried       sudo apt-get install wesnoth03:27
claudiuand it says E: Couldn't find package wesnoth03:27
xuniL____you need to chane you scource.lpist03:27
claudiuokay but how . i worry not to make a mess of it03:28
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xuniL____but i think they have the old version of wesnoth... if they havent updated it...03:28
claudiuxuniL____: what should I add to sources.lst03:28
claudiucan you mai me your sources.lst ?03:29
claudiucan you mail me your sources.lst  pls ?03:29
xuniL____not on linux right onow03:29
xuniL____you know where the source.list are?03:29
claudiuyep 03:30
xuniL____good..03:30
claudiuin /etc03:30
xuniL____have you opened it..03:30
claudiuok03:30
xuniL____it was so long ago i where log on in linux,,,03:31
xuniL____but there should be something like universe.. or something like that03:31
claudiuwhat are you doing on kubuntu then ?03:31
strike4ceOculusAquilae: Why do you have to be a smart ass?  You're the type that runs people off from Kubuntu03:32
xuniL____paste your shource.list here pastebin.com03:32
xuniL____then i can tell you whant to do..03:32
claudiuxuniL____: wait pls03:32
OculusAquilaestrike4ce: what? sorry, but what do you mean?03:33
xuniL____okey03:33
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OculusAquilaestrike4ce: you can remove it via Adept03:33
OculusAquilaeclick on it and then Remove or something like that03:34
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claudiuxuniL____: i did it. just had to uncomment some stuff here. thnx a lot anyway03:35
claudiu:D03:35
xuniL____:D03:35
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ph8ok03:37
ph8I can mount it in windows03:37
ph8why would it mount there and not here? :(03:37
aftertafph8:  check your user rights on /media03:37
ph8? ;)03:37
_thomasWhat must I do to make it possible to play mp3's in amaroK og Kaffeine?03:38
aftertaf!mp303:38
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:38
martin!mp303:38
strike4ceOculusAquilae: In adept it doesnt show anything to remove.  In fact it shows kynaptic under keep?03:40
martinAnyone know from where can i install Azureus in kubuntu breezy?03:40
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OculusAquilaestrike4ce: click on it an klick on remove package03:41
uliy003:42
ulii have a problem:03:42
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uliwhere do i get a complete breezy 5.10 multimedia codec package?03:42
ph8test03:42
ph8can you hear me?03:42
ph8having proxy issues03:43
pointwoodyes yes03:43
ulianyone know?03:43
_thomasDo this mean that it isn't possible to play mp3's in kubuntu? I manage to do it when I first testen linux, it was ubuntu dough.. Or to this just mean that the audioplayer can't support mp3 oit of the box?03:43
uliah serwas charolastra^^ 03:44
OculusAquilaestrike4ce: succes now?03:44
charolastrahehe hi03:44
charolastrauli: #kubuntu-de gits auch noch :)03:44
kkathmanDid Breezy puposely disable several of Konqueror's features?03:44
charolastrakkathman: like?03:45
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kkathmanWell, perhaps its just how Konqi does it now...but I notice that there arent menu items for splitting left/right, etc...you must now enable a toolbar and put those options there instead03:45
kkathmanAnother example....loading/saving profiles03:46
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aftertaf_thomas:  restricted format, no right to distribute with cd03:48
strike4ceOculusAquilae: but it says to keep installed?03:50
kkathmancharolastra: sorry I meant to have those last 2 responses directed to you03:51
OculusAquilaestrike4ce: what?03:51
charolastrahehe, well, can't help you with that (as i don't have kubuntu; i though you might mean stuff like "speak website" 03:52
kkathmanah ok03:53
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kkathmancharolastra: funny you should be in the kubuntu channel then :)03:53
charolastrakkathman: you see, i'm the support hotline for a friend :)03:54
sedekihow can i change encoding from utf8?03:54
charolastrawhere?03:54
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charolastrahere?03:54
kkathmanhere, there, everywhere lol03:54
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reagleBRKLN"Katapult is used to start applications and bookmarks. Just press Alt+Space then type the name of the program" alt+space does nothing, but page down in konq...?04:00
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: try to start katapult from the menu 04:00
reagleBRKLNOculusAquilae: don't see it?04:01
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: try to start katapult from the menu 04:01
OculusAquilaesorry04:01
reagleBRKLNin utilties?04:01
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: simply do ALT+F2 and then type "katapult"04:01
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epare the backports broken?04:02
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: should be04:02
OculusAquilaeep: think there aren't any backports04:02
reagleBRKLNah... very cool. how to use with bookmarks?04:02
epah, how would one go about apt-getting mplayer for i386/586?04:03
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Kamping_Kaiserep. mplayer is in universe04:03
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: try to type the bookmark name 04:03
Kamping_Kaiserapt-get install mplayer-i[35] 8604:04
Kamping_Kaiseriirc04:04
reagleBRKLNOculusAquilae: hrmm... not working04:04
reagleBRKLNe.g., `g test` is my bookmark to search google for 'test'04:05
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epapt-cache search mplayer doesn't list it.  Have I screwed up more sources?04:05
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: check your shortcut settings04:05
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: try to push STRG+C while the display is shown04:05
reagleBRKLNstrg+c ?04:06
Tm_TOculusAquilae: I think hes has the same problem I did04:06
Tm_T-s04:06
reagleBRKLNshortcuts enabled, work in konq address bar, keyword delim is space04:06
Kamping_Kaiserep:  make sure universe is enabledc04:06
OculusAquilaeTm_T: don't think so04:07
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts04:07
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: does it work for programs?04:07
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: if something is using alt+space...04:07
epI've done apt-get update and its listed in my source.list file.  What should I do exactly Kamping_Kaiser 04:08
Kamping_Kaiserep are you using hoary or breezy?04:08
epbreezy04:08
reagleBRKLNalt+space brings up katapult,  and I can use it to launch programs, just not bookmarks04:08
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: try to push STRG+C while the display is shown04:08
OculusAquilaepress04:08
reagleBRKLNwhat is strg+c ?04:08
dipnlikreagleBRKLN: what's the big difference between katapult and alt+f2? (or win+r?)04:09
Kamping_Kaiserep - mplayer-[3,5,6] 86 are your options. no i04:09
dipnlikstrg = alt04:09
dipnlikor ctrl, can remember04:09
dipnlikcan't*04:09
reagleBRKLNalt+space, alt+c show control center in katapult04:09
OculusAquilaeyes04:10
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epapt-cache search mplayer-386 list nothing04:10
reagleBRKLNOculusAquilae:  so what does that tell me about bookmarks?04:10
Kamping_Kaiserep: pastebin your sources list04:10
OculusAquilaedipnlik: much faster than minicli (ALT+F2)04:10
epok04:11
dipnlikOculusAquilae: hm04:11
MachineScrewdamn I am board04:11
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: try to look if it is enabled in "Catalogs"04:11
OculusAquilaedipnlik: you don't have to know the executables name04:11
reagleBRKLNWhere is that option?04:11
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dipnlikany advice before upgrading to breezy?04:12
apokryphos!breezyupgrade04:12
ubotu[breezyupgrade]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade04:12
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: STRG+C while katapult display is shown04:12
dipnlikthanks04:12
reagleBRKLNah04:12
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epMy sources.list --> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39344504:13
Kamping_Kaiserok04:13
reagleBRKLNNumber of characters before searching is set to three -- not that I know what that means04:14
dipnlikapokryphos: i read about a problem with konsole fonts, was this already solved?04:14
gibarianUh...is it a problem with my installation, or does Kplayer simply not work on breezy anymore (unresolved dependencies when trying to download...)?04:14
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: i don't know what it means too :-)04:14
apokryphosdipnlik: haven't heard of it04:15
Kamping_Kaiserep: looks ok. i just noticed though (sorry about this), mplayer is in multiverse04:15
epoh ok, it will have to wait I guess04:15
dipnlikapokryphos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems04:15
reagleBRKLNwell, the bookmark catalog is in "selected", -- not that the bookmark catalog iss in "selected"04:16
epMy konsole fonts are goofy by the way.   Where can I read up?04:16
reagleBRKLNoops04:16
Kamping_Kaiserep: if you add multiverse to all lines with universe you should have mplayer04:16
reagleBRKLNso it is selected, so I am not sure why it doesn't work04:16
dipnlikep: the link above has a simple solution, is was a typo04:16
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: what bookmark do you search for04:17
OculusAquilae?04:17
reagleBRKLNe.g., `g test` is my bookmark to search google for 'test'04:17
epdipnlik, trying to find the link04:17
apokryphosdipnlik: well, no problem here at least.04:17
dipnlikep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems04:17
reagleBRKLNOculusAquilae:  if I type that, the icon that is shown after `g ` is just that of the unknown/default document04:17
dipnlikapokryphos: ok, will try it now. already downloaded the packages, just need to install them. wish me luck :)04:18
apokryphosg'luck :)04:18
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OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: thats not a normal bookmark of konqueror or firefox i think04:19
dipnlikOculusAquilae: on FF it is a normal bookmark04:19
dipnlikbookmark to http://www.google.com/search?q=%s , with a nickname "g"04:19
reagleBRKLNhuh?  what do you use? I would assume you would read the shortcut configuration in konq's settings/ configured Konqueror/Web shortcuts04:20
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reagleBRKLNthere if have "g" set to http://www.google.com/search?q=\{@}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-804:20
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: but katapult only accept (lets call it) static bookmarks04:20
OculusAquilaewithout argument04:20
OculusAquilaes04:20
reagleBRKLNI don't know what that is, what is the static bookmark for Google04:20
reagleBRKLNoh...  I think04:21
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reagleBRKLNwell, just using g  doesn't work because if I hit return it pulls up gqview04:21
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Chousukeomg :o04:22
OculusAquilaereagleBRKLN: you could use bookmarks to http://www.google.de for example04:22
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Chousukekatapult looks like quicksilver.04:22
reagleBRKLNanyway, Anita turned to the more serious problem of my sound --  when I installed breesy  it doesn't work anymore04:22
reagleBRKLNback in a sec04:22
ChousukeIndeed, it seems to be inspired by quicksilver04:23
ChousukeQuicksilver is the best app ever.04:23
ChousukeI hope people clone it lots on both Gnome and KDE.04:23
epKamping_Kaiser, On the sources.list I posted, theres a couple of "multiverse" lines I commented out.  They gave me problems.   I should ignore these lines (made by the install) and instead add multiverse to the universe lines?04:23
slow-motionhallo04:24
OculusAquilaeChousuke: it is inspired by quicksilver04:24
ChousukeOculusAquilae: yeah. Google told me that.04:25
ChousukeOculusAquilae: And as I already said, Quicksilver is the best app ever.04:26
apokryphosthat good? ;-)04:26
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ChousukeHell yes. :D04:26
OculusAquilaepossible (never used quicksilver)04:26
Kamping_Kaiserep. either way (sorry, im working on another box :O)04:26
Chousukemakes lauching apps, accessing bookmarks, sending mail and all that doable without ever touching the mouse. :P04:27
epi'll play with it thanks04:27
epQuick question on firefox.  How do I get a middle mouse click to open clipboard url in a new tab.  I've lost this functionality on a new install.04:29
apokryphosedit -> preferences...somewhere04:29
OculusAquilae:-)04:29
ChousukeOculusAquilae: For example, I can select a bunch of files, press Cmd-esc to send them to QS, then press tab and type "mail" as the action, press tab, and start either an e-mail address or a name from my address book, and press enter to send those files :)04:29
epi thought it might be a line in about:config04:29
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ChousukeQS is like a pretty and easy-to-use GUI for the command line04:30
Chousukeor hmm.04:30
Chousukenot quite. but it rocks.04:31
OculusAquilaeChousuke: hm, seems difficult to implement, but I hope this will be possible with katapult too04:31
Chousukeand I hope people will clone it for KDE and Gnome too.04:31
epah its middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true in about:config04:32
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apokryphoshaven't heard of gnome having anything like that04:32
uliso mal neu eingeloggt^^04:32
epshould be the default AFAIK04:32
ulinoch ist alles flssig...04:32
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OculusAquilaeuli: wrong channel :-)04:33
ulinana, ich bin schon im richtigen channel04:34
uliups04:34
ulisorry04:34
apokryphoswell, surely not, since English only in this channel :)04:34
Kamping_Kaiserno uli your not ;)04:34
uliu right....lol04:34
ulik04:34
OculusAquilae:-)04:34
OculusAquilae#kubuntu-de04:34
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MachineScrewwhy is KDE Desktop better04:36
apokryphosuse Google04:37
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nikkiaKDE doesn't kill puppies!04:39
Tm_Twhy not04:39
nikkia(gnome may, or may not, i'm not saying :P04:39
sproingieyeah, we want to know04:39
sproingiemy car gets 40 miles on a full tank of puppies04:40
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Kamping_Kaiserlol04:40
os2machas anyone else had a problem with the network settings app not going into administrator mode?04:40
nikkiasproingie:  you are that sick german guy that runs his car on kittens, aicmfp04:41
sproingienikkia: how could you accuse me of such a horrible thing?04:41
sproingienikkia: my car runs on puppies!04:41
paelscritim about to install kubuntu04:41
apokryphoscongrats04:41
os2macanyone got time to help me with a network settings question?04:42
sproingiegnome's file selector certainly makes me want to kill04:42
apokryphossproingie: i.e. the open/save dialogue?04:42
apokryphostell me about it :D04:43
sproingiei hardly use the features of most modern DE's otherwise04:43
sproingiebut it's nice having thumbnails of pictures i'm uploading to a website right in the file selector04:43
apokryphosindeed04:43
epOk, After I uncomment the mulitverse lines on my sources.list I get pages of "couldn't stat source package" errors. 04:44
epI pasted my sources.list earlier (the multeverese lines are commented out)  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39344504:45
os2macIf I suspend my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8600) and I start it back up, my network settings reconfigure to eth0 enabled and I lose the essid and key on my wlan0 card (which was enabled on suspend) 04:45
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sproingiemaybe using some IPC trick04:45
martep: you probably need to 'apt-get update' first04:45
os2macand when I try to use the network settings app it won't let me go into administrator mode.04:46
katakombihi.04:46
sproingiethey probably have more or less identical return conventions -- a filename or list of them04:46
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katakombidoes anybody know when libqt4.0.1-dev will get into ubuntu?04:46
apokryphossproingie: there was a *really* funny video I had with a comparison of them both, but the guy seems to have taken it off the server :/04:46
martsproingie: actually there's quite some difference04:46
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martsproingie: hang on, I'll find an article about planned integration work in kde04:47
sproingiemart: but nothing that an adaptor couldn't paper over, no?04:47
martsproingie: yeah04:47
martlike previews04:47
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epI get the errors when I run 'apt-get update'.   Afterwards if I try something like 'apt-cache search mplayer', I will also get errors. In order to fix all this I have to uncomment those multiverse lines and re-update.04:48
sproingieall the previews invoke ioslaves, no?04:48
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IlMonacohi to all04:48
IlMonacoi have a problem with the bootsplash04:48
martsproingie: also, some classes subclass the kde file dialog box04:49
IlMonacowhen kubuntu starts04:49
epI meant to say I have to comment out the multiverse lines in order to fix the errors.04:49
sproingiethe file picker would probably have to run out-of-process.  but hey, both kde and gnome speak corba, no?  ;)04:49
IlMonacohe says 04:49
IlMonacovesafb.ko not found04:49
martsproingie: kde doesn't speak corba no04:49
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IlMonacowhat do you think about this problem?04:49
os2macanyone got any ideas?04:49
martsproingie: plan was to do some out of process thing using dbus, and xml transport04:49
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sproingieand i don't know if gnome has ever actually used it.  dbus would probably be more appropriate04:50
reagleBRKLNI installed breezy  over my existing hedgehog root partition.  everything is fine except my sound does not work04:50
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sproingiei learned corba from books a long time back.  all i can say is it's somewhat better than tooltalk04:50
martsproingie: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/139604:50
sproingieotherwise it's a horror04:50
martsproingie: (but where's the main article?...)04:51
martsproingie: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/139804:52
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reagleBRKLNcould gstreamer be getting in the way or doing something weird?04:53
reagleBRKLNI also don't hear anything from `cat sample.au > /dev/dsp`  so perhaps it is the kernel04:53
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reagleBRKLNbut the modules all seem to be there: snd                    48644  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer04:54
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reagleBRKLN`lspci` 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)04:54
sproingiei always thought that microsoft was going the wrong way by abandoning DDE04:55
Tm_TDDE ?04:55
sproingiebut given the slowness of out-of-process OLE components, i can see why they chose COM04:55
Tm_Tah04:56
sproingieTm_T: Dynamic Data Exchange.  it was windows 3.1's primary IPC messaging mechanism04:56
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sproingieapps still use it now, but only in rather trivial ways04:56
Tm_Tok04:56
sproingiei suppose some things you'd still want to keep in-process04:57
IlMonacowhat about my problem with bootsplash?04:57
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sproingiemaking every button on a toolbar a com object is fine, making every one a process is not04:57
adrianocplease, i cant conect MSN from KOPETE, but GIM is ok.04:59
apokryphoswell... what's the error?05:00
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adrianocthe kopete say: the password was wrong: please re-enter ... but she is correct05:02
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apokryphosadrianoc: upgrade to breezy05:03
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adrianocbut i using KDE, i can using kubuntu with source.list from breezy ?05:05
adrianocbreey is only gnome ?05:05
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Tm_Terr05:05
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Tm_Tadrianoc: ofcourse there's Kubuntu breezy05:05
sproingiebreezy is all of ubuntu.  that includes kubuntu05:05
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sproingieand now apparently xubuntu05:06
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adrianocok, thanks i try05:06
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sproingieanyone actually successfully used opera's irc?05:07
Tm_Tme05:07
Tm_Ta very long time ago05:08
sproingiehuh.  seemed totally broken in 8.505:08
Tm_TI was highly forced then05:08
sproingieah, nothing else to use, eh?05:08
gibarianthe breezy opera version gives me a segmentation fault...very much like the newest VLC version05:08
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apokryphosoO05:08
Tm_Tsproingie: it's useful05:08
Tm_Tusable05:08
sproingiexchat now.  i wish konversation had the features i wanted.  not crashing would be one feature05:08
sproingieconference mode another05:09
sproingieksirc might be hackable with perl.  but i guess it was too much work to actually document the perl API05:09
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reagleBRKLNdon't have sound with breezy, but if i rmmod snd-intel8x0, and then modprobe it, i do here a click; syslog says ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 1705:10
adrianocplease ... Fail to down http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum incorrect05:11
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raphinkhi05:13
raphinkI've got a problem with the kde 3.5beta1 repositories lately05:13
raphinkI get a 'NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088' and 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>'05:14
raphinki've tried to update the registered keys for ftpmaster@ubuntu.com but it doesn't help05:14
raphinkany idea?05:14
paelscritis kubuntu configured to play mp3's ?05:15
raphinkpaelscrit: you have to install the mp3 librairies05:16
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paelscritokay thanks05:16
raphinkyou can use easyubuntu to do it easily05:17
nikkiasproingie: have you tried kvirc ?05:17
paelscriti use breezy though05:19
paelscritor am installing breezy atm05:19
raphinkmhm05:19
raphinkthat's good05:19
raphinkit seems some kubuntu developer has forgotten to export his key after adding an email address05:20
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raphinkor else I'm can't explain what's wrong05:20
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brosiozhi05:21
brosiozanyone have k3b and dvd pioneer 110D i can burn only 2x with support 8x dvd-r anyone could help ?05:21
raphinkanybody has got a problem with kde 3.5 packages?05:21
raphinkbrosioz: you should ask on #k3b I think05:21
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god-zeroI really wish someone in the GNU/GPL world would come up with a torrent based update system, preferrably with a voting/commenting system05:21
nikkiabrosioz: i don't have that combination, but.... try turning off kded in the control center05:21
MachineScrewraphink: pobly unstable 05:21
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nikkiabrosioz: kded (the media:/ handler) can seriously  interfere with CD/DVD writing05:22
brosiozkded ?05:22
MachineScrewdamn I am sucking at spelling today05:22
evilmegamanhi, I installed java and I can't remember how to enable it. Because it seems that the gnu java thing is the current java. I want the sun java05:22
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AyidenWhere do you find the Kubuntu 5.10 kernel-sources ?05:22
brosioznikki_a_, where ?05:23
raphinkevilmegaman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:23
Ayidenwithout apt-get.. because with out the sources I cant go online05:23
evilmegamanthanks raphink05:23
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AyidenCould some one please tell me where to find kubuntu 5.10 kernel sources?05:24
raphinkAyiden:  $ apt-cache search linux | grep header05:24
raphinkshould help you05:24
AyidenI cant go online with out them though05:24
raphinkhuh?05:24
nikkiabrosioz: in the control center, KDE Comonents, Service Manager, KDED Media Manager05:24
raphinkAyiden: you mean the repositorise then05:24
raphinknot the kernel source05:24
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raphinkAyiden: I can't see why not having the kernel source would prevent you to use apt-get ;)05:25
Ayidenwin modem05:25
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Ayidenhsf05:25
Ayidenits crap i know *(lol)05:26
brosioznikkia, thx but it's the same05:26
raphinkhmmm05:26
brosiozi'm burining now a dvd05:26
raphinkgtg05:26
Ayidenbut the modem works fine with the liuxant drivers05:26
brosiozand is always 2x05:26
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Ayidenlinuxant***05:26
evilmegamanI can't find where it says how to enable Sun java instead of gnu java raphink...05:27
nikkiabrosioz: hmmm, my 8x drive starts at about 2x, but gets faster, because its zone-CLV, are you sure that's not what you're seeing ?05:27
raphinkuninstall gnu java evilmegaman 05:27
nikkiawell, its a 16x drive, but i only have 8x media :)05:27
raphinkand you'll only have sun left05:27
apokryphos!tell evilmegaman about javadebs05:27
evilmegamanokay thanks raphink :)05:27
brosioznikkia, yes of course its start at 2x but remains always 2x05:27
brosioz:\05:27
brosioznow i'm 87% of 4.3gb05:27
brosioz25minutes05:28
brosioz:05:28
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evilmegamanSo just remove anything that refers to gij right?05:30
apokryphosyou really don't have to remove gij at all.. you can just install java's sun; they can happily coexist05:31
evilmegamanOh05:31
evilmegamanAnd how would I do that?05:31
helpmehow do i make konversation autoconnect me to some channels at startup?05:31
evilmegamanI installed sun already. but it needs to be enabled05:31
apokryphosevilmegaman: check the /msg you got from ubotu05:31
evilmegamanoh sorry05:31
evilmegamanDidn't notice05:31
apokryphoshelpme: have you read the handbook?05:31
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helpmeapokryphos: ok got that:)05:32
evilmegamanapokryphos, Sorry but is there a way to just enable the stuff in /usr/java?05:33
apokryphosI have no idea what you mean by enable05:33
evilmegamanWhen  I do java --version, It tells me I am using GNU java05:33
evilmegamanI want it to use sun java05:34
apokryphosevilmegaman: did you install the deb?05:35
evilmegamanNope05:35
evilmegamanthe .bin05:35
evilmegamanthe official one..05:35
apokryphosyou could have gone wrong on a few steps; I really recommend just using the deb05:36
evilmegamanOkay05:36
brosiozhow could i enable dma on my dvd recorder /dev/hda ?05:40
martbrosioz: is hdparm installed?05:40
brosiozmart, why hdparm ?05:41
brosiozanyway not05:41
martbrosioz: it's the only way I know to turn on dma05:41
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chakiehas anyone here happened to play with the ipod:/ ioslave and not been able to add files to it?05:41
charolastrabecause it sets the parameters of your HD (actually anything connected to IDE)05:42
brosiozmmm05:42
brosiozanyway exist a way to active dma on my dvdrecorder without hdparm ?05:43
martbrosioz: not that I know of05:43
moebiousmaybe i am asking something trivial, but couldnt find the answer from a quick look on the kubuntu website... can one download ubuntu, then add kde and kde config files from kubuntu later? 05:43
martmoebious: yeah05:44
martmoebious: you'd just need to install the kubuntu-desktop package05:45
kkathmanback...hope everyone is well :)05:45
moebiousmart, which isnt included in the ubuntu dvd? but only through apt later?05:46
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kkathmanmoebious: in fact what mart says is the preferred method05:46
Kaiser_sleepsnight all05:46
kkathmannight Kaiser_sleeps 05:46
kkathmanmoebious: its not included in the dvd, because gnome is the default desktop manager. KDE is an add-on05:47
martmoebious: or you could get the kubuntu cd05:47
kkathmannot everyone prefers KDE05:47
martmoebious: and use apt-cdrom add05:47
kkathmanbut I'm of the opinion, its much better to clean-install ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:47
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Ayide1is there a place to download the kubuntu 5.10 kernel-sources without APT-GET... i need a link to download the sources on windows05:50
helpmecan't I install gnome from the kubuntu dvd? its not there?05:50
kkathmannot really05:50
Ayide1theres o way to downlaod the sources ecept apt-get?05:51
Ayide1no*05:51
kkathmanthats why I advise to install ubuntu, then put kubuntu-desktop over it..that way you get all the Gnome environment and the KDE...you always have a backup GUI05:51
nikkiaAyide1: yes05:52
martAyide1: what's the line for apt sources?05:52
kkathmanbut for smaller boxes with limited disk, kubuntu is the way to go for KDE05:52
Ayide1not sure05:52
nikkiaAyide1: if you open the base URL in your web browser, you can poke around til you find the .deb file in the 'pool'05:52
Ayide1oh okay05:52
apokryphoskkathman: and why would you not advise the opposite? :/05:52
kkathmanmart: you looking for sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:52
Ayide1whats the kubunutu/ubuntu pool then?05:52
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kkathmanapokryphos: advise what opposite05:53
apokryphoskkathman: i.e. that someone install kubuntu, and then get ubuntu-desktop ;-)05:53
martkkathman: no, it's ok, Ayide1 is trying to get a package url from an apt url05:53
apokryphosthough if it's just for backup I'd probably prefer xfce :D05:53
Ayide1can someone give me the pool link? 05:53
moebiouswell, i used in the past slackware and debian, and on both of those, kde and gnome were both installed, and you could change from one desktop environment to the other.. but from what i see in the (k)ubuntu websites, its more of a policy, for ubuntu to not have kde and kubuntu gnome...05:53
kkathmanapokryphos: right...absolutely true if you installed from the kubuntu disk.05:53
pointwoodanyone had success with upgrading to breezy from hoary + kde 3.5beta?05:54
nikkiaAyide1: in particular, try something like: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/05:54
Ayide1does kubuntu have its own pool? or will the main debian pool work?05:54
Ayide1okay05:54
Ayide1is that for 5.10?05:54
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Ayide19 NEED EXACT SOURCES IM NOT LOOKING TO RECOMPILE ONLY TO INSTALL A DRIVER05:55
nikkiaif 5.10 uses 2.6.12, yes05:55
kkathmanAyide1: kubuntu is really just ubuntu base with KDE from what I understand..that may have changed in breezy05:55
Ayide1ooops *(lol) caps05:55
nikkiaAyide1: the repositories don't quite work like that05:55
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nikkiabasically, you have a list of packages for a specific distro, that point to files within the pool, a file in the pool can belong to several distros/versions05:56
nikkia!info linux-source breezy05:56
nikkiaand it looks like there's no linux-source metapackage05:56
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apokryphoskernel-source might be what you want05:57
paelscritwell i just got kubuntu installed for the first time05:57
brosiozsetting using_dma to 1 (on)05:57
brosioz HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted05:57
brosioz using_dma    =  0 (off)05:57
paelscritlooks nice05:58
brosiozanyone could help ?05:58
apokryphospaelscrit: cool :)05:58
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boernihi05:58
martbrosioz: this isn't by any chance a very new computer?05:58
Howdy125Just get build-essentials and the correct kernel headers ...05:58
martbrosioz: (I take it you are running as root)05:59
brosiozofcourse05:59
Ayide1kubuntu uses Linux 2.6.12.606:00
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martbrosioz: I've seen this problem recently on a Intel 9xx box06:00
Ayide1i only see 2.6.12 in the repositoies06:00
Ayide1is it the same?06:01
nikkiaAyide1: probably06:01
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martbrosioz: Intel 915 host bridge?06:01
brosiozmart, i think the problem is with06:02
larsiviWhat's the best way to use KDE 3.5 in Kubuntu?06:02
brosiozide_scsi module06:02
brosiozfuck this modul06:02
Ayide1wait would this be it linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb?06:02
Ayide1would that be the right source?06:02
Ayide1for 5.10?06:03
Ayide1nm it isnt : (06:04
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kkathmanAyide1: When I upgraded, my kernel was set at 2.6.12-906:06
kkathmanand KDE 3.4.306:06
Ayide1okay06:07
Ayide1thanks06:08
Ayide1so that IS the right kernel06:08
Ayide1should I get the headers aswell?06:08
Ayide1http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb and these should be the right headers06:11
Ayide1okay well thanks06:11
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moebiousanyone can check whats the size of kubuntu-desktop package of 5.10?06:14
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apokryphosmoebious: a few kb I'd imagine06:14
apokryphos!info kubuntu-desktop06:15
ubotukubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB06:15
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spiralhi06:15
martmoebious: about 12K06:16
martmoebious: 8K maybe06:16
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helpmewhere can i order kubuntu breezy 5.10 dvd? i cant seem to find it ANYWHERE!  Plz help!06:16
apokryphosyou can't06:16
helpmecan't??? why?06:17
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apokryphoshelpme: no shipit for kubuntu, unfortunately.06:17
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chaseHay, im having problem running KDE with my laptop display and a external monitor. Ive tryed to configure xorg and ive been in the display settings but both monitors identify as monitor 206:19
kkathmanapokryphos: no fair...no breezy party here :(06:20
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apokryphoskkathman: where you at?06:20
kkathmanDallas area, Texas06:20
chasethey are also running the same resolution, where as i need the laptop to be monitor 1 and the external display to be monitor 2, with a diffrent resoltution06:20
soebbiDoes someone know how to use katapult?06:20
chasedoes anyone know how to do this in kubutut06:20
chase^kbuntu06:20
kkathmanapokryphos: I'll buy you a virtual beer  :)06:20
apokryphoscheers!06:21
martsoebbi: Alt-Space06:21
soebbimart: Tut garnix06:21
kkathmanapokryphos: isnt there a way to get your system updated automatically now? I thought I heard someone mention that?06:21
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soebbimart: Doesn't do anything (Sorry =)06:22
apokryphosadept update manager or something; haven't tried it yet06:22
martsoebbi: it is running?06:22
kkathmanapokryphos: I just launched adept manually, there were a few updates.. I think it was in the Breezy Update Notes...I'll check06:22
soebbimart: according to ProcessTable, yes06:22
apokryphosI think it is, yeah.06:23
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kkathmanapokryphos: ahh the autoupdater is gnome only it looks like06:24
martsoebbi: might be worth deleting it's configuration file in your home dir06:25
soebbimart: One sek...06:25
kkathmanIt says "start-notifier" but have no idea what that is06:25
helpmecan't I order it from any other online shop??06:25
kkathmanno biggie06:25
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woddf2Haldo06:26
apokryphosTo help keep your system current, adept-updater checks to see which packages have changed and makes it easy to download and install the latest fixes.06:26
soebbimart: There is no config-file in my home06:26
apokryphos(from the Kubuntu-anouncement)06:26
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_Admin1you06:27
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apokryphosah; simplistic, but looks ok. Should satisfy all those that love it06:27
apokryphosthough it has no tray icon, which IIRC is what people love about the gnome one :/06:28
woddf2Here is what lsmod outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39355406:29
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woddf2Here is what lshw outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39356106:32
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woddf2Here is what lsmod outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39355406:33
woddf2Here is what lshw outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39356106:33
kkathmanNice - gkrellm is standard now06:33
apokryphoswoddf2: quit flooding06:34
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apokryphoskkathman: yuck! :P06:34
woddf2Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?06:34
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woddf2I'm on Kubuntu 5.10.06:34
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paelscritanyone know if i have to have a router to hook up my cable internet to my kubuntu box and windows box or can i just use like a switch06:34
paelscritid prefer not to have a router06:35
duendea switch should work fine06:35
paelscritokay cool06:35
duendei think, it migh depend on your isp06:35
paelscritthnx06:35
paelscritoh06:35
paelscrithmm..06:35
kkathmanpaelscrit: usually that works fine, does for me06:35
duendei know with my old isp, i used to plug the modem into a hub, and all computers connected would get their own ip :)06:35
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woddf2Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?06:36
paelscrityou have cable kkathman?06:36
humboltI have a intel hda sound card and somehow I do not get how to make select the micro source for recording. I choose capture on the mic and turn on capture, but that does not seem to be it.06:36
kkathmanduende: yah, I have DSL, no diff really than cable, and I have a wireless router with one line to an 8-port hub... each computer gets its own internal IP and the router has a built in hard firewall with a NAT06:37
god-zeroapokryphos: beta1 packs? beta 1  too buggy for you to  concuder  it even as a beta?06:37
woddf2I'm on Kubuntu 5.10.06:37
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apokryphosgod-zero: no packs for amd64, and PPC. Got kde svn, but I'd really rather just use packs 8)06:37
kkathmanpaelscrit: Only diff between cable and DSL sometimes is that Cable uses static IP while DSL uses PPPoE and dynamic...but thats not usually a prob06:37
duendekkathman: i mean, each computer got an external ip.  i only had it setup like that for a breif time06:38
apokryphoswoddf2: congrats!!06:38
woddf2Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?06:38
paelscritwell i dont want a router is the whole thing06:38
kkathmanduende: ahhh ok...I dont do that for security reasons06:38
god-zeroapokryphos: oh ya, sorry06:38
paelscriti just want like my modem to a switch to the two computer06:38
duendeyeah, don't blame you there :)06:38
apokryphoswoddf2: please stop asking the same question a zillion times. If someone is able/willing to help, they will.06:38
kkathmanpaelscrit: you cant use just a hub06:38
woddf2Oh06:38
paelscritoh okay..06:38
paelscritso i have to have a router06:38
woddf2I'll just wait until someone answers.06:38
kkathmanpaelscrit: unless you intend on using one computer at a time06:39
god-zeroapokryphos: forgot  U R nonX8606:39
paelscritnah06:39
duendewoddf2: lsmod | grep snd06:39
kkathmancuz theres only 1 IP addie coming in06:39
apokryphosgod-zero: as-of-late, yes :)06:39
duendewoddf2: see if you have the soundblaster module loaded06:39
paelscritgotcha, thnx06:39
kkathmanthe router splits that ...thats the reason it works06:39
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woddf2I tried modprobe sb, does that count?06:39
duendewoddf2: well, that would be for oss.  i'm assuming you want alsa06:39
woddf2Oh06:39
kkathmanpaelscrit: really not much diff in price...routers are around $60-80 USD and hubs are around 30-4006:40
paelscrit60-80? are they that much?06:40
paelscritdamnit06:40
duendewoddf2: modprobe snd-sb1606:40
duendewoddf2: if that works, then we'll set it up to auto load06:41
woddf2modprobe snd-sb16 said: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39356906:42
helpmecan i install gnome  entirely from the kubuntu dvd? is it all there on the kubuntu dvd?06:42
duendewoddf2: lspci06:42
apokryphoshelpme: it isn't06:43
duendewoddf2: check to see what's listed there for sound card06:43
duendewoddf2: should say something like Multimedia Audio controller06:43
woddf2I see no sound card: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39357106:43
helpmenoooooooooooo:(06:44
duendewoddf2: is this on-board sound?06:44
woddf2I don't know.06:44
duendeor an add-in isa card?06:44
helpmebut i think gimp, gaim & forefox are there right?06:44
duendewhere do you plug the speakers into?  an add-in card or the motherboard?06:44
woddf2I think it's an ISA PNP card or something.06:44
duendeyikes06:44
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Paloshi06:44
Palosthe dvd iso is broken?06:44
paelscrithelpme i think you would just get ubuntu for that06:44
duendei don't know how to deal with ISApnp stuff anymore.  back in 98/99 i'd have no problem with it :)06:45
woddf2I plug the speakers into the card. The motherboard's sound plugs are blocked by metal.06:45
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paelscritthe only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu is kubuntu uses kde as opposed to gnome, i think06:45
paelscritim new though i just installed kubuntu today06:45
duendepaelscrit: with some added kick-ass features :)06:45
paelscriti see06:45
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duendewoddf2: sorry man, i've no idea about isapnp anymore.  i had to forget that stuff to make room in my head for new information06:46
duendewoddf2: there should be hundreds of howtos on the internet to help06:46
paelscrithelpme i dont see any of those application06:46
paelscritits got konqueror, konversation, and kopete06:46
duendepaelscrit: what applications?06:46
duendewhat are you looking for?06:46
paelscrit|11:44|  [helpme]  but i think gimp, gaim & forefox are there right?06:47
paelscrityou can just download those however06:47
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Chambers`hey guys, whats a good binary news leecher for kubuntu?  klibido is exactly what i want but it keeps crashing on me06:47
Tm_Takregator?06:47
helpmethey are on the kubuntu dvd i think but not installed by default06:47
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paelscritoh i see06:48
Tm_Tknode?06:48
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Chambers`knode is for reading06:48
Tm_Thm, ok06:48
paelscritakregator is rss feeds06:48
helpmepaelscrit: add the dvd to ur sources.list and then u'll be able to get those offline i think06:48
Chambers`i need something for downloading files that has nzb support06:48
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Chambers`guess there aren't too many usenet leechers that use linux :P06:49
paelscritthnx helpme, im not sure how to do that though ;).. im a total noob, i shouldnt have even tried answereing your question06:49
paelscriti use torrrents myself06:49
Chambers`also, before installing the latest kubuntu, do the ATI Drivers have 3d enabled?06:49
helpmeanyone who did not like the new graphical bootup in breezy?06:49
paelscritit looked cool to me06:50
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Chambers`is there a faq anyone on what to do to get mp3 and dvd support working?06:50
helpmepaelscrit: its very easy dude....in synaptic Edit>Add CDROM......insert dvd in ur dvd drive and ure done:)06:51
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paelscritokay i actually have a cd of the .iso install06:51
paelscritare they on there too?06:51
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helpmepaelscrit: no i dont think they are on the kubuntu cd..but i guess u'll find some packages in the ubuntu breezy cd....just add ubuntu breezy cd06:52
paelscritokay06:52
paelscritill check it out06:52
Nomad411Hi all..  A bit unrelated but I'm desperate..  I'm looking for a hosting place that does IMAP (with subfolders) and LDAP if possible.. Any suggestions?06:52
helpmepaelscrit: im also a bit of a newbie:)06:52
paelscriti just installed kubuntu like an hour ago though hehe06:53
paelscritbefore that ive barely messed around with knoppix and ubuntu live06:53
helpmehmm..good.....i hope u love linux.....try pclinuxos 9.1 too.......its a fantastic desktop distro with everything working out of the box......suse 10 also comes with everything preinstalled:).......but for me kubuntu is best:)06:55
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_andreado, do you suggest me to install the new version on kubuntu? 06:56
paelscrityea im liking this kubuntu06:56
reagleBRKLNstill trying to figure out why sound doesn't work, booted from kubuntu 5.10 live-cd where it does and looked at some things http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ezoair33.html06:56
_andrea??06:57
kinfoi don't understand.06:57
paelscriti actually tried installing suse 9.3 early and yast was freezing on install at format drive part06:57
paelscritso i gave up after a while and now im on kubuntu06:57
reagleBRKLNthe only diff is in live it indicates the two subdevices are 0/1 and 1/1, whereas now (install) its 1/1 1/106:57
helpmei see......but suse 10 is getting rave reviews....06:57
helpmeand so is ubuntu:)06:57
paelscritmaybe ill try 1006:58
_andreaehI!?!? someone can say me if now the upgrade to breezy is safe?06:58
paelscritim think i had a corrupt cd or something06:58
helpmeim waiting for a kubuntu breezy review.....everyday i check out distrowatch for it:)06:58
paelscriti dont know why it was freezing06:58
helpmedid u retry?06:58
_andreahave been released officially right?06:58
shogoukiusb keys are no automaticly mounted, same pb on your installations ?06:58
paelscrityea several times06:59
paelscritthen i formatted the drive with partition magic in m windows box and retried06:59
paelscritstill froze at 0%06:59
paelscriti gave it like 30 minutes too06:59
helpmehmm....i see06:59
helpmei guess it might be a corrupt cd/dvd but not sure07:00
paelscrityea that was just a guess, i really have no idea07:00
_andreaqho???07:00
helpmewhats ur hd size? how much uve given linux and windows?07:00
paelscritseems no one has problems with yast07:00
_andreaThe final version of Ubuntu 5.10 will be released on Oct. 13th. IS IT TRUE???07:00
paelscritwell its a seperate computer so there was no windows on it07:01
paelscritits a 40gb07:01
_andreacan i now install the new version without problems only inserting files in thre repositories?07:01
_andreaaho?07:01
helpme_andrea: dude it has already released......r u kidding?07:02
paelscrityea that was yesterday07:02
_andreahelpme: no, i'm not07:02
helpme_andrea: only inserting files? i didnt get what u said.......u can UPDATE ur installation if u dont wanna do clean install07:03
_andreahelpme: so i can install it safely?07:03
_andreahelpme: inserting lines in the repository file.. sorry i wrote in a bad way07:03
helpmeu mean u dont wanna lose ur currently installled apps, right?07:03
helpme_andrea: no not that way dude...pop in the cd, reboot, then select fresh install or update.....as u wish07:04
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brosiozhi07:04
brosiozhow could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?07:05
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helpme_andrea: did u get it?07:05
helpmebrosioz: hi07:05
_andreahelpme: why i can not simply upgrade from repositories?07:05
_andreahelpme: yes, you suggest me to download the new version write a bootable and upgrade from CD07:06
coruja_andrea: or your go through your sources.list and replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' and then try a dist-upgrade07:06
corujas/your/you07:06
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_andreabut why you (helpme) told me a sec ago to do not use repositories?07:06
corujabut a backup is - as always - recommended :)07:06
_andreabackup of what?07:07
_andreaof system files?07:07
helpme_andrea: yes........there are 2 ways07:07
coruja_andrea: backup of your data, and maybe of some .conf files too, at least07:07
helpmeu can do either way........07:07
_andrea( side question, how i can generate a backup?)07:07
_andrea( is there an automated program? )07:07
helpme_andrea: do u have a seperate home partition? 07:08
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corujai'm sure there is, but i don't know any by name now as i always archive myself07:08
helpme_andrea: for personal data, just copy them to cd......for proffesional backup u may use Konserve07:08
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helpmeKonserve is there:)07:09
corujanow i know at least one by name ;)07:09
_andreai have different partitions, so i can simply move data from the root to one of the partitions with conserve?07:09
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_andreaor you suggest me to do other things?07:09
helpme_andrea: dude...u dont need to move anything from root07:09
helpmetell me do u have any personal data stored in ur linux system?07:10
_andreahelpme: yes07:10
_andreain my home folder... al the configurations and so on07:10
helpmethen if u fear u may lose them, just copy them to another partition or cd07:11
helpmeu can copy them to windows partitions07:11
_andreaand then i can simply use repositories change or again do you suggest me to use CD07:11
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helpmeif u do it the way coruja told u...u can never lose any personal data07:12
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spiralare the backports for breezy alive ? where could I find the sources.list adresses ?07:13
_andreahelpme: so, why you told me to use the cd if the coruja way is better?07:13
helpme_andrea: is ur home folder on a seperate partition? or the same partition on which u have root?07:13
corujain my opinion, best choice would be a fresh install (backup needed!), secondly cd upgrade, then an upgrade by dist-upgrade...07:13
_andreasame07:13
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helpme_andrea: both ways are good.....but if u have home & root on same partition...then use repos07:14
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_andreaok tnx for the help07:15
helpmeand dont do fresh install or update.....u CAN do fresh install but u must copy ur personal data somewhere bcoz u'll lose them07:15
coruja...and in terms of convenience, the order will be from last to first ;)07:15
helpme_andrea: ur welcome:)07:15
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_andreafresh install or update?07:15
_andreawhen i want to move my home to another partition how can i do?07:16
motyRHi there:)07:16
brosiozhow could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?07:16
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_andreasimply removing the phisical direcotry and creating a symbolic link 07:16
paelscritdoes kubuntu seem slow to anyone else?07:16
_andreain the same place?07:16
paelscritmaybe its jsut my computer07:16
helpme_andrea: no no07:16
_andrea( fast please i have to go to classes ....... ;P tnx)07:17
motyRis ther away to let usplash all over the screen? (1024x768)07:17
katjaHello07:17
helpme_andrea: its a bit complicated to transfer home to another partition...jut wait a min i'll give u a link07:18
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helpme_andrea: http://wiki.kanotix.net/CoMa.php?CoMa=HomeDirectory07:20
_andreatnx again 07:21
_andreabye07:21
_andreaazz i'm lagte07:21
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MarcCcan someone tell me how to enable the terminal window that you can attach to the bottom of konqueror?07:23
Nomad411New question then. :)   Is anyone here familiar with the latest IMAP servers?07:24
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nikkiaguess he didn't really want to know07:28
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helpmenobody answered thats why07:29
nikkiahelpme: in 2 minutes07:30
nikkiahelpme: that is NOT a reasonable amount of time to give up after here07:30
nikkiamany of us have other things we're doing, you know07:30
BlankBLike having to hit reset after attempting to burn a data dvd.07:30
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Tm_TBlankB: =)07:31
helpmeyeah he may have been asking many times or many places.must be a newbie07:31
Tm_Thelpme: btw your nick is quite annoying07:31
helpmelike me:)     newbies have less patience:)07:31
Tm_T;)07:31
helpmeTm_T: lol07:31
nikkiahelpme: his loss07:31
nikkiahelpme: and probably your loss, next time you ask a question i might be able to answer07:31
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shogoukidamn am i the only guy to have pb with usb key automounting ?07:32
ubuntuhi07:32
helpmehmm..i usually do hang around longer after  a question...unless ive to go somewhere:)07:32
helpmehi07:32
helpmeshogouki: maybe;)07:32
Tm_Tshogouki: propably not, media:/ has issues with hal07:33
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BlankBshogouki: I have problems with a firewire drive automounting.07:33
helpmei have problems with a lovelife automounting07:33
helpme;)07:33
ducelol07:33
Tm_Tehm07:34
LotharAnybody here knows if live CD Ubuntu is able to read a MacOS file system harddisc?07:34
pointwoodanyone had success with upgrading to breezy from hoary + kde 3.5beta?07:34
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Tm_Tpointwood: me07:35
pointwoodTm_T: it just worked?07:35
Tm_Tpointwood: not just07:35
pointwoodk07:36
Tm_Tbut I did it weeks ago07:36
Tm_TI bet it'll be much easier now07:36
pointwoodand you had kde 3.5beta installed?07:36
Tm_Tyes07:36
pointwoodand just did a plain dist-upgrade?07:36
Tm_Tyes07:36
Tm_Tofcourse changed my sources.list first07:37
pointwoodyeah 07:37
pointwoodjust change everything to breezy...07:37
pointwoodyou still run kde 3.5 beta?07:37
paelscritpicture of karl rove from a few hours ago: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/14/national/14cnd-rove.583.jpg07:38
paelscritoops wrong window07:38
pointwoodheh07:38
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helpmepaelscrit: whos karl rove?07:43
paelscritgeorge bush's top advisor07:43
paelscrithe's in trouble for leaking a cia agent07:44
paelscritkind of, nothing will happen to him of course07:44
paelscrithe got caught though07:44
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BlankBI am having as many problems as if I had done dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda 8(07:47
helpmewhat are security updates? can i do without them? are they really needed?07:48
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heinAnybody got a wlassistant package for breezy for me, by chance?07:49
kkathmanTm_T: o/07:49
rumohelpme, it would be better if you install the security updates07:50
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rumodo you have a slow internetconnection, helpme?07:50
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helpmerumo: yep....and limited one07:55
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BlankBI cant even work 5 minutes without a crash. 3 problems. 1. Machine lockup 2. what I write to cd/dvd is not what i get back. 3. firefox crashes without warning.07:57
strike4ceI downloaded Wireless assistant and it went to ark,  How do I install it?07:58
strike4ceI extracted the file to my desktop07:58
kkathmanBlankB: did you upgrade or install clean?07:58
BlankBclean install.07:58
kkathmanOdd.07:59
BlankB#1 the lockups is probably the video driver. Using mga from their website.07:59
kkathmanDunno...I upgraded from Hoary and have had no probs07:59
kkathmanpossibly true07:59
BlankBbut #2 what I write out is different that what I get back. thats bad. 07:59
kkathmanBlankB: The kernel changed versions so your driver might not be for that kernel07:59
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kkathmanBlankB: that sounds like a driver prob too08:00
BlankByep. and since I cant run for more than a few minutes without a lockup. It makes it hard to debug.08:01
strike4ceI downloaded Wireless assistant and it went to ark,  How do I install it?08:02
kkathmanBlankB: I think I would start with those two drivers and check for compatibility with the 2.6.12-9 kernel08:02
BlankBstrike4ce: is it a .deb that you got?08:03
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strike4ceBlankB: its called wireless assistant08:03
strike4ceBlankB: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2183208:04
alexmichi all08:04
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BlankBstrike4ce: I am not familiar enough with it to have context for your question.08:04
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Chambers`anyone have an ipod working with kubuntu?  I can go into /media/ipod but when I go to ipod:/ it says it can't be found08:05
alexmicI am right nows dowloading the packets for a dist-upgrade. Though synaptic tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I have juste the main rep. Is it normal08:06
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BlankBstrike4ce: if you downloaded the deb just do dpkg -i file.deb08:07
Chambers`how do i change the root password?08:08
BlankB!root08:09
ubotumethinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:09
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alexmicI am right nows dowloading the packets for a dist-upgrade. Though synaptic tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I have juste the main rep. Is it normal08:11
Chambers`thanks BlankB 08:12
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duceAre here people having also trouble with GnuPG and kmail?08:13
Chambers`is there a tutorial on what to do to get mp3 playback support and dvd support?08:13
BlankBis there a choice of kernels on 5.10?08:15
corujaChambers`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:16
`NomadChambers:  if for mp3 support you mean teh ability to listen to MP3s, I had that problem and figured out to install some engines for Amarok this morning.  Use adept and search for your player's name, you might find options ot add ro it08:16
Chambers`thanks08:16
heinuh, what's the name of the kernel source package?08:17
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gibariandoes anyone get the message about FATAL ext2 module not found when booting the latest kernel on 5.10?08:18
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duceChambers` - for example u can install xine and lame for amarok08:18
corujahein: try apt-cache search kernel source08:18
MachineScrewcan any one help me with a pxe boot install08:20
heincoruja: Did, and installed 'linux-source-2.6.12 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches', however, all it seems to do is put a .tar.bz2 of 2.6.12 vanilla into /usr/src08:20
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MachineScrewcan any one help me with a pxe boot install08:20
bengrosshi please help me i need to mount my windows volumes08:22
BlankBso 2.6.12 is the only kernel choice without recompile etc.08:22
BlankB?08:22
Chambers`coruja: so which ones do i enable exactly?  I have a bunch of commented out universe and multivers's08:23
Chambers`breezy universa, breezy-backports main, breezy-security08:23
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corujaChambers`: the best is to have all official repos enabled08:24
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heincoruja: ah, 'apt-get source' on the actual kernel image08:24
corujahein: then you got what you wanted, or not?08:24
heincoruja: nah, I wanted it with the patches08:24
Chambers`thanks08:25
corujaah, ok08:25
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libbenhow do i check if i have the breezy fully updated08:26
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Chambers`hmm..this wiki is for ubuntu and not kubuntu, it's confusing :(08:27
bengrosshow do in stall programs on kubuntu08:27
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Chambers`so is marillat ok to set up as a source?08:27
bengrossi need to burn some toast08:27
ducebengross - do u like to use a gui or konsole?08:27
corujalibben: when apt-get tells you that there's nothing to update, your system up to date08:27
coruja+is08:28
bengrosssimple konsole is ok08:28
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corujaChambers`: i prefer downloading only the needed files and installing myself08:28
libbenyeah. but ive been testing breezy all the way. and hitted reload and mark all changes every day allmost08:28
bengrossi dont know ubuntu, i used to use mandrake08:28
libbenand now its released and im not sure if i have the all updated thing08:28
MachineScrewcan any one help me with a pxe boot install08:28
corujalibben: these days, round release time, there are always lots of updates08:29
Chambers`coruja: is there a step by step tutorial on how to do it for Breezy Kubuntu? or is this wiki i am looking at for ubuntu up to date?08:29
ducebengross - use apt-get08:29
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Chambers`grrr08:30
duceapt-get update for updating the database, apt-cache search 'text' for search and apt-get install'text' to install.08:30
corujaChambers`: in that case searching forums would be best i think, you'll find lots of hints and more there...08:30
Chambers`Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-thom" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.08:30
ducebengross - and don't forget the sudo in front of08:31
bengrossthen what? how do i do a search08:31
Chambers`bleh08:31
ducebengross - apt-get update for updating the database, apt-cache search 'text' for search and apt-get install'text' to install.08:31
Chambers`brand new clean install and Kate won't even start08:31
Chambers`are you sure this is final release..lol08:31
ducebengross - type in apt-get and u get a short help08:31
bengrossyeh, suppose i want to download bit torrent08:32
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BlankBSo i restored to a fresh install of brezzy. My machine freezes when doing: md5sum kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso08:34
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JuerdBlankB: It can take a while. How do you know it has totally freezed?08:35
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BlankBcause all hdd activity ceases. And nothing responds. Not even a mouse. Plus I let it sit like that for 10 minutes.08:36
tencohi! i have problems with kpdf and xpdf08:36
tencowhen i make pdf docs with pdflatex...08:36
bengrossi installed bit torrent icant find it08:37
JuerdBlankB: It could be that your system is incapable of high harddisk throughputs08:37
tencothe pdf file is displayed with ugly font in kpdf08:37
tenco...and xpdf08:37
tencobut printouts are fine08:37
JuerdBlankB: Does it also freeze if you do: cat /dev/zero > zerofile.tmp08:37
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tencois it better to install gs-afpl instead of gs-gpl? is that the problem?08:38
Juerdtenco: That usually means you used a font that is known to your printer, but not to your computer.08:38
BlankBjuerd: unfortunately since it keep crashing im doing a restore of 5.04 right now. Is there something about high throughput that I should know about.?08:38
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bengrossi installed bittorrent how do i run it?08:38
JuerdBlankB: I had it years ago with a broken IDE controller, and recently with a broken driver for a working IDE controller.08:39
tencoJuerd: is use the normal KOMA-package08:39
tenco*KOMA-script08:39
Juerdtenco: What font is it?08:39
jagodragoni forgot my pas word for nickserv can any one held08:39
tencoJuerd: i dont know?08:39
Juerdtenco: That makes it very hard for me to help you. Sorry.08:39
BlankBHmm...I dont really get many kernel choices with breezy. It works great in 5.04 08:40
tencoJuerd: i dont care about fonts much. its serif for normal text and sans serif for sections08:40
tenco*section-headings08:40
Juerdtenco: If you don't care about fonts much, then what is the problem?08:40
tencoJuerd: they are displayed the wrong way in kpdf and xpdf08:40
JuerdWhat's wrong about it?08:41
tencoJuerd: e.g. "z" isnt as tall as "u"08:41
JuerdIt may be an ugly font08:41
JuerdBut if you haven't specified any font, it's practically free to choose08:41
tencoi made the pdf with latex08:41
tencoi used the standard-font which the koma-script package specified08:42
JuerdSorry, I cannot help you08:42
JuerdMaybe someone else08:42
Juerdafk08:42
tencoand its printed out with a pretty font08:42
tencoJuerd: ok, np08:42
hussamdo I need to keep xpdf or is kpdf enough? also does Kpdf require xpdf?08:43
BlankBjuerd: luckily its not a kubuntu problem I get the exact same freeze using knoppix 4.0.2 using the same(nearly) kernel.08:44
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evilmegamanhow do I install java exactly? I installed the sun java .bin file in /usr/java, but when I do java --version it says gij or something :-/08:47
BlankBSo anyone have any idea why my machine would be perfectly stable without a crash in several months using kernel 2.6.10-5-386 under kubuntu 5.04 and now under breezy with kernel 2.6.12-9-386 its crashes every time I do anything io related.08:47
bengrosshow do i mount my windows partitions?08:48
ducebengross - use mount08:49
BlankBCan the kernel in (k)ubuntu breezy be downgraded to 2.6.10? Are there any problems associated with doing that?08:49
ducebengross - or System Settings-> Disk&Filesystems08:49
bengrossmy settings doesnt list disk and filesystems08:50
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ducethen use mount08:51
BlankB!windowsdrives08:51
ubotu[windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:51
jrattner1When placing my memory stick in KDE gives me the following error08:52
bengrossi typed mount and it listed some stuff08:52
jrattner1The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.08:52
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bengross/dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)08:52
bengrossproc on /proc type proc (rw)08:52
bengrosssysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)08:52
bengrossdevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)08:52
bengrosstmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)08:52
bengross/dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)08:52
bengrossnone on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)08:52
bengrossusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)08:52
ducebengross - man mount - for example mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows -t ntfs08:53
BlankBbengross: dont copy paste here use a pastebin08:53
evilmegamananyone have any idea on how to get java working?08:53
JuerdBlankB: It could be that before, you had a driver that didn't support your hardware well, and your system was performing sub-optimal because of that08:53
JuerdBlankB: And now, you have a driver that lets your hardware perform the way it is supposed to, but your hardware appears to be unable to handle it08:53
JuerdBlankB: Or, something broke in recent kernels.08:54
bengrosswhats a pastebin08:54
BlankBThe thing that makes it odd is that those tests were dont on a firewire drive. So I am not sure what hardware to look at.08:54
BlankBbengross: see the /topic of the channel http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/08:54
Juerdbengross: A web application where you can store a small snippet of text, so that others can see it too.08:54
ducebengross -  | Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com08:55
Juerdbengross: It allows you to share configuration and output, without having to flood a chat channel with lots of lines.08:55
Chambers`so hey, how do i get to the new kde software screen that the site was talking about?08:55
JuerdChambers`: "the site"?08:55
Chambers`yeah, kubuntu's site08:56
JuerdChambers`: The site, including wiki, is huge. What page?08:56
bengrossi did this stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:56
jagodragoncan any one help me with java plugins08:56
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Chambers`http://kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release.php08:57
Chambers`the kde system settings is supposed to be different08:57
JuerdChambers`: There's a system button in the task bar area08:58
JuerdChambers`: Click it and choose "Settings"08:58
gdhChambers`: Hm, yes I did think that - when in fact all I get in 'settings' is the settings:/ URL in Konq08:58
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gdhshowing text-based category browsing08:59
gdhhardly a technology leap :)08:59
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connis there a way to remove ALL the packages that are install from "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?08:59
jrattner1I'm also having trouble with removable media, when I insert my jump drive  a page in conqueror comes up saying: The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.08:59
Chambers`heh, looks the same to me :P  it is the original Ubuntu that has a settings similar to MacOSX?08:59
evilmegamananyone have any idea for getting Sun java to work?09:00
SgepIs it now feasible to upgrade to breezy w/ apt-get?09:00
BlankBsgep: make a backup first. 8)09:00
bengrossthat worked thanks09:00
SgepHmm?09:01
Chambers`ok, the test..to see if transferring songs to my ipod works09:01
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Sgephi slick09:01
slickhi09:01
slickI got a question09:01
slickhow do you show the sidebar for konquer09:02
slickthe sidebar I am talking about is the one with buttons such as apps, histroy, etc... I installed kmetabar but I have no clue how to show the sidebar09:02
Juerdslick: F909:03
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slickwell that was quick09:03
slickthanks09:03
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JuerdYou're welcome09:04
Chambers`grr09:04
connhey, I installed kubuntu breezy but when I installed firefox, there was a problem with the theme (it does not respect the kde or gtk settings).. for example, visiting www.google.com shows ugly buttons and radio buttons that don't belong to the theme. Any idea how to fix this?09:04
frank23conn: you want to revert to kubuntu-desktop only?09:04
Chambers`says access denied when trying to transfer songs to my ipod09:04
connfrank23: yes, I installed ubuntu-desktop because I wanted to test the font settings in gnome, but now I don't want to keep the ubuntu packages, just go back to the standard kubuntu install09:05
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tencoJuerd: acroread does it right09:05
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frank23conn: the only way I know how to do that is to ininstall some gtklibs to get rid of all GNOME programs and then reinstall kubuntu-desktop09:06
hussamdo I need to keep xpdf for kpdf to function? Does Kpdf require xpdf?09:06
Juerdconn: See apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop09:06
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da_bon_boni need to get rid of gnome .. how do i do that ?09:06
Juerdconn: That shows the packages it consists of (depends on)09:06
Juerdconn: Remove those.09:06
Juerdda_bon_bon: Same as conn09:06
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da_bon_bonJuerd: remove each and every one by one ?09:07
connJuerd ad frank23, thanks. I'll check the dependencies and remove that way09:07
bengrossim downloading madwifi but the file is huge09:07
Juerdda_bon_bon: All that you want gone.09:07
da_bon_boncant do i --remove-with-deps ?09:07
bengrosslinux-restricted-modules-2.6.10_2.6.10.5.orig.tar.gz09:07
Juerdda_bon_bon: I do not know09:07
frank23bengross: madwifi comes with ubuntu09:07
da_bon_bonJuerd: someone told me to remove libgtk -- but that removes gaim and firefox too :(09:08
Juerdda_bon_bon: Don't do that.09:08
frank23da_bon_bon: well if you don't mind redownloading stuff, yuo can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards09:08
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da_bon_bonok..09:09
da_bon_bonwould i be better of doing a clean kubuntu install ?09:10
jrattner1how do i restart the kicker09:10
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frank23da_bon_bon: its not necessary. after you install kubuntu-desktop, it will be like a fresh install09:10
da_bon_bonok.09:10
frank23da_bon_bon: although if you have dialup, do the fresh install ;-)09:11
Juerdjrattner1: First, kill it. (ctrl+alt+esc, then click on kicker)09:11
humboltcan I run into trouble if I setup postfix as my private smtp server and use it for mail delivery, while I am behind a NATing Router?09:11
Juerdjrattner1: Then, start it again. (alt+f2, type "kicker")09:11
da_bon_bonlol, frank23 09:11
humboltand how is that if I just use the sendmail command?09:11
Chambers`hey guys, any idea when transfering songs to my ipod I get an access denid error?09:11
jrattner1sounds good09:11
da_bon_bonfrank23: i am on breezy .. but server are so slow that i will do it on sunday only09:11
Juerdjrattner1: Not all applets and icons may come back.09:11
m0ns00nEveningf09:11
frank23da_bon_bon: yeah servers will be slow for a few days09:12
Juerdjrattner1: If that is a problem, restart KDE 09:12
humboltChambers: type in mount and ls -l the dir you mounted the ipod to09:12
humboltChambers: check the permissions09:12
connJuerd: I figuerd apt-get remove gnome* would do roughly the equivalent, the elected packages for removal seemed correct09:13
bengrossi cant find madwifi09:13
Chambers`drwx------  5 thom thom 4096 2008-12-26 21:42 iPod_Control09:13
Chambers`here's the wierd part09:13
frank23bengross: its included in linux-restricted-modules09:13
frank23bengross: why did you want to download it?09:13
Chambers`-rwx------  1 thom thom  296 2004-12-29 18:24 WMPInfo.xml09:13
Chambers`so i have access to it09:14
Chambers`don't know why it gives me an error09:14
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Juerdconn: It's not entirely the same. Not all packages begin with gnome09:14
Chambers`btw, typing ipod:/ on konq says ipod can't be found :/09:14
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slickhow do you launch katapult?09:14
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bengrossmadwifi for my wifii driver?09:15
connJuerd: yes but it removes the base gnome packages, and packages that relied on that are removed too.. for example, vino, gaim, nautilus - they were all selected 09:15
frank23bengross: do lsmod | grep ath    and if ath_pci is there, you already have the module loaded09:16
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Chambers`any ideas?  Is my fstab entry correct?09:17
frank23bengross: I have an atheros chipset (that uses madwifi) and I didn't have to configure anything to get my card working09:17
Chambers`This is my fstab - /dev/sda        /media/ipod     vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       009:17
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Chambers`i don't know why it's not working09:18
bengrosswhy isnt it the same for me?09:18
Chambers`maybe i need to format it first?09:19
frank23bengross: I mean the hardware was working automatically, I still needed to configure the network myself09:19
bengrossok how do i configure the network?09:19
Chambers`no one in here with an ipod?09:19
SgepCan the breezy install CD be used to upgrade?09:19
frank23bengross: what did lsmod | grep ath give you?09:19
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frank23bengross: System Settings -> Network Settings -> Administrator mode09:20
frank23If you have an atheros chip in your card, you should see ath0 in the Interface list09:21
libbenhow do i check what dvd burner i have09:21
libbenwant a command09:21
Juerdlibben: cdrecord -scanbus09:21
Girthhi can someone help with a problem i have with kde su root access?09:21
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JuerdGirth: State the problem. You'll find out if we're able to help.09:21
JuerdChambers`: Shouldn't it be sda1 instead of sda?09:22
da_bon_bonlol, Juerd 09:22
reagleFRACK. hosed my partitions cause 5.10 won't install "Unable to install initrd tools"09:22
bengrosswireless?09:22
reagle5.04 doesn't have this problem09:22
Juerdreagle: Were you installing from cd?09:22
Girthok i have just installed latest breezy. i need to set up static ip address. when i try admin mode button i get eirther kde su error "su returned with an error"09:23
reaglejuerd, yes09:23
Chambers`when i do mount it says sda209:23
Juerdreagle: Did you download that cd? Have you checked if the cd was right using the md5sum?09:23
bengrosshttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39374509:23
Juerdreagle: What do you mean by "hosed"?09:23
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reaglejuerd, k3b gave me a check before burning09:23
Juerdreagle: Using the md5sum?09:23
gurumeditationeris there any disadvantage to installing ubuntu then installing kubuntu-desktop compared to installing kubuntu from a kubuntu cd?09:24
reagleJuerd: i mean i'm gonna have a lot of work to do tonrestore my home partition09:24
Girthor a "conversation failed" erropr09:24
Juerdreagle: Have you tested the cd after burning as well?09:24
Juerdreagle: What does it mean, technically?09:24
bengrossdid u get that09:24
Juerdreagle: There is an application that can guess partition tables, based on patterns found on the drive.09:24
reaglejuerd, so i suppose i should check it again09:24
frank23bengross: yeah I have exactly the same thing09:24
bengrossokay cool09:24
Juerdreagle: It is called gpart, and it is on the KNOPPIX live cd.09:24
bengrossi have tried administrator winfi didnt help09:24
Chambers`ok, i get an error09:25
Chambers`could not mount device09:25
reagleJuerd: lost cause since i've done so many f'd installs now09:25
Juerdgurumeditationer: Yes, it gives you gnome.09:25
Chambers`wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/sda109:25
reaglejust would lik to get 5.10 now.09:25
frank23do you see ath0 in the interfaces in network settings?09:25
Juerdgurumeditationer: Which isn't a problem, but leaves the system a little bloated.09:25
reaglehow to check md5sum of a cd?09:25
Juerdgurumeditationer: You can remove it manually, but it's some work.09:25
Juerdreagle: md5sum /dev/hdc (or whatever cd device)09:26
Juerdreagle: Compare the output to the md5 file that you downloaded along with the iso09:26
Chambers`but i can still go to /media/ipod09:26
JuerdOr should have downloaded09:26
Chambers`what the heck?09:26
Juerd(It's not too late)09:26
JuerdChambers`: Until something is mounted there, it's just a normal directory.09:26
Chambers`but it shows the ipod contents09:27
satafterhwe need more seeds for the dvdiso09:27
JuerdChambers`: Then it is mounted. See the output of mount09:27
satafterhif you have it share it people09:27
Chambers`but it gives me an error09:27
frank23bengross: do you see ath0 in the interfaces in network settings?09:28
Chambers`no one has an ipod here and got it working?  I'd like to know what their fstab entries are09:28
bengrossyes09:28
bengrossi click enable and it turns off again09:29
frank23then select it and configure interface09:29
bengrossok what do i type there09:29
frank23what do you about your router? is encryption enabled?09:30
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bengrossno encryption09:31
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frank23bengross: do you know the ssid? (the network name)09:32
jagodragonare there a specific package to download for java?09:32
m0ns00nYes09:33
bengrossnetwork name? i dont think theere is one09:33
m0ns00nJust take the jdk09:33
m0ns00nIt includes the jre09:33
m0ns00nWhich is the run time environment that's needed for java apps and the plugin09:33
jagodragonthanks09:33
m0ns00nNo09:33
m0ns00n:-)09:33
m0ns00nIf you need help installing the plugin for mozilla/konq/firefox just ask09:34
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jagodragonthanks09:34
m0ns00n;-)09:34
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SgepHi all09:34
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bengrossshouldnt need a network name09:34
m0ns00nhi09:34
SgepCan I make the apt-get go faster/09:34
SgepOr somehow use the Install CD?09:34
bengrosswhat should i type in for network name09:35
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SgepHi mrmarcel 09:35
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frank23bengross: its a setting in the router.  I think you need to know that. kwifimanager can scan for networs if you don't know09:35
Sgephi rodrigo 09:35
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SgepHi roman09:37
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romanHello here!09:37
bengrossi got rid of the name09:37
bengrossnow its working09:37
bengross:)09:37
bengrossthanks09:37
mrmarcelHi Sgep :)09:38
romanis KDE 3.4.3 available for hoary?09:38
frank23bengross: what did you do?09:38
SgepHow do I get the apt-get to go faster?09:39
bengrosshey09:39
bengrossit detected it09:39
Mezroman, for breezy, yes09:39
SgepOr can I somehow use the InstallCD?09:39
bengrossbut wont stay conected on the control module09:39
romanbut not for hoary?09:39
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Corvusroman, it's available for hoary too09:40
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laszlokjagodragon: Just the 1.4 runtime?09:40
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romandeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main09:42
romandeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main09:42
romanDo I get 3.4.3 if I change the number in my sources.list record deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main ??09:42
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evilmegamananyone hava any Idea on getting sun's JRE to work? I installed the .bin in /usr/java But when I do java --version the output says gij...09:43
romanSorry for the mess, that's Ctrl+V in Konversation...09:43
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SgepCan I upgrade via the install CD?09:43
Sgephiep09:43
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Chambers`what a joke09:44
Chambers`i open up system system settings -> disk and file systems09:45
Chambers`click on administrator mode09:45
Chambers`put in my password (since root doesn't exist)09:45
Chambers`nothing09:45
Chambers`goes back to the screen where i can't do anything09:45
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Chambers`so how the heck am i supposed to get administrative privledges?09:46
frank23Chambers`: it does work for me09:46
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Chambers`this is a clean install09:46
Chambers`like half hour ago09:46
ubuntuhi09:46
frank23Chambers`: you can try kdesu kcontrol  09:46
jagodragonjust the 1.4 runtime? what do you mean09:46
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Chambers`yes i can, but it should work the other way too09:47
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Chambers`and, for some reason it tries to mount my ipod to /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 at the same time...when the disk and filesystem says it's on /dev/sda09:48
frank23Chambers`: I know... hoary also had problems of this kind: going to administrator mode. I think its related to the fact that ubuntu uses sudo instead of root account09:48
Chambers`i was having problems with my ipod in Suse 10, was hoping Kubuntu would fix..but there are even more problems :(09:49
Chambers`you'd think if they had problems like this before they would address them09:49
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frank23Chambers`: file bug reports. Its the only way :-)09:49
Chambers`what's the point on Bug reporting if they don't address the issue?09:49
SgepCan I get apt-get to skip a download once it started?09:50
Chambers`you said they knew about it...but it's still not fixed09:50
Chambers`:( guess i'm going back to suse :(  so frustrating09:50
Chambers`why doesn't this stuff just work..hehe09:50
frank23Chambers`: At least I think they knew. 09:50
Chambers`or at least keep it in testing longer09:50
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frank23Sgep: you can use ctrl-C to stop apt-get09:51
m0ns00nback09:51
SgepThen how do I prevent the upgrade of that package09:51
SgepAnd will apt-get resume where it was?09:52
frank23Sgep: for the download, yes it will resume09:52
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pyhi09:52
frank23Speg: what do you mean prevent the upgrade?09:52
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pywhere can i find audio/video codecs fore breezy badger ?09:53
frank23py http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/09:54
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frank23Sgep: then don't install vegastrike09:55
Chambers`grrr09:55
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SgepHow?09:55
SgepIt's alreay installed, but I don't want it upgraded09:55
frank23Sgep: oh... 09:55
SgepIs there a way to upgrade w/ the CD?09:56
frank23You can lock a package to a specific version but I only know how to do it with synaptic09:56
frank23Sgep: yes if you add the cd to your sources.list  but I don't know what that line is09:56
evilmegamanDoes kubuntu come with python 2.4 or 2.3?09:57
romanCorvus: how can I get kde 3.4.3 for hoary then?09:57
frank23evilmegaman: 2.4 by default but 2.3 is in the repos as well09:58
evilmegamanokay thanks frank23 :)09:58
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Corvusdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/hoary-kde343 hoary main09:59
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orugoi!10:00
orugohi10:00
lwellsHI all10:00
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orugoi've got the new 5.1010:00
orugoyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah10:00
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lwellsI am trying to get Kubuntu through bittorrent10:01
orugobittorrent10:01
orugoNAH10:01
orugodownload from internet!10:01
gathhello10:01
lwellsI am tryting that too, so slowwwww10:01
orugo imean10:01
orugofrom http10:01
orugooh10:01
orugoi have a 256k connection... so its always slow :P10:01
orugohahaa10:01
gathis there any program available to show incoming mail10:02
lwellsI have Cable and it says 2 days10:02
gathlike korn10:02
orugogath theres a lot of programs10:02
orugodo you have kubuntu?10:02
gathyes10:02
lwellsme?10:02
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orugolook in kynaptic10:02
gathi used korn in kanotix10:03
gathkynaptic?10:03
orugoi think korn is available in kubuntu too10:03
orugomaybe slipknot, haha10:03
orugoemm10:03
romanCorvus: thanks, the word "packages" was added so my sources.list broke. Getting my new KDE ...10:03
orugokynaptic and synaptic are the packages manager10:03
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gathi tried to get korn over apt, but it doesn`t work10:04
orugooh10:04
Juagarhow to play .mp3 files?10:04
orugoi dont know... i dont use pop3 mail :P10:04
orugosry10:04
Juagaramarok says I need some codecs10:04
orugocodecs?10:04
JuagarI don't know10:04
gathkorn depends on kdelibs4 10:04
JuagarI can't play any media10:04
Juagarno films no mp310:05
orugohey10:05
orugoi have to change my repos in synaptic?10:05
frank23Juagar: get kaffeine-xine, w32codecs for movies and change the engine in the kaffeine settings10:05
kkathmangreets again all :)10:05
gathorugo: kynaptic also depends on kdelibs410:05
orugowhen i switchetd from 5.04 to 5.1010:05
Juagarwhere can I find w32codecs?10:06
frank23http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/10:06
JuagarI think aren't in kynaptics10:06
gathand libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.910:06
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Juagarand for mp3?10:06
ickehowdy10:06
orugohey juagar10:06
gathand libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3)10:06
orugowhats http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/10:06
gathwhat can i do?10:06
orugoi dont know :( im not a really expert user :(10:07
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frank23Juagar: get gstreamer0.8-mad for mp310:07
JuagarI've it10:08
robert2005Hi! amd64-k8 nvidia kernel stuff is brocken amd64-generic works .. is this bug already know?10:08
robert2005n10:08
frank23orugo: you can get the .deb for w32codecs there10:08
Juagarbut i don't know what happens10:08
ickeeven mijn session restarten10:08
JuagarI've got w32codecs10:08
ickeoops10:08
orugoi dont need them :P10:08
ickewrong channel10:08
frank23Juagar: do you have kaffeine-xine?   gstreamer is not good for videos10:08
JuagarI want for mp3 as well10:09
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orugoi had souind problems in 5.04 but now in 5.10 it works PERFECT10:09
Juagarnow I can hear the film but i can't watch ir10:09
orugo:D:D:D:D:D:D:D10:09
Juagarit10:09
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JuagarI'm going to try kaffeine-xine10:09
orugohey10:10
frank23Juagar: you have to change a setting in kaffeine to tell it to use xine also10:10
orugoi need help with the repos10:10
orugoin 5.10 what repos i have to change?10:10
Juagarok10:10
orugoi mean i still having HOARY repos10:10
frank23orugo: you change hoary for breezy everywhere (except hoary-extras)10:11
frank23!tell orugo about upgrade2breezy10:11
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kkathmanorugo:  look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:11
MEtaLpREswhats the easiest way to recompile your kernel?10:12
MEtaLpREsi need to recompile it using a newer version of gcc to get this app to work properly10:12
Juagarok, now I can watch films10:13
frank23MEtaLpREs: aren't kernels always compiled with gcc 2.95 ?10:13
kkathmangood day frank23, btw :)10:13
orugotks a lot10:13
Juagarfrank23, but i haven't change anything10:13
frank23Juagar: as long as it works10:13
MEtaLpREsmine is compiled using 3.4.510:13
JuagarI didn't the chance to change to xine engine10:14
MEtaLpREsbut i need it compiled using 4.0.210:14
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frank23MEtaLpREs: you're right, its not 2.95 10:14
JuagarI just have keffeine and kaffeine-gstreamer engines10:14
chxhi all10:14
frank23MEtaLpREs: why do you need it comiled with 4.0.2? is it for vmware?10:14
Juagarbut I've installed kaffeine-xine....10:14
MEtaLpREsyes10:14
chxWhat files writes out the text (Kubuntu ...) before login on ctrl+alt+f1?10:15
frank23Juagar: the kaffeine one is actually kaffeine-xine10:15
Juagarahhh10:15
Juagarok10:15
Juagarthanx10:15
frank23MEtaLpREs: install gcc-3.4  then  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  then run the configuration script10:16
chx /etc/issue10:16
chxI see.10:16
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DarkSeidhello folks10:16
DarkSeidgot me a problem10:16
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DarkSeidwonder if anyone else experienced it10:16
elvirolohi all10:16
DarkSeidupgraded from Hoary to Breezy w/ apt-get and now my USB is fubar10:16
elvirolohow do i enable musicbrainz support in amarok ?10:17
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DarkSeiddoesn't even mount the USB devices10:17
DarkSeidbut it works fine under Gnome10:17
JuagarAmarok:some media could not be loaded (not playable)10:17
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Juagarwhy the hell10:17
DarkSeidany ideaS?10:17
JuagarI've installed gstreamer0.8-mad10:17
DarkSeiddigikam and kamera dont see the device at all10:17
elviroloJuagar: have you tried recently to play a cd with amarok?10:18
Juagarnot a cd10:18
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DarkSeidkonqueror doesn't show it mounted either10:18
Juagaran mp3 file10:18
DarkSeidyet it works fine under Gnome10:18
JuagarI've installed today my kubuntu 5.1010:18
tencowhat was wrong with breezy preview? i updated to the preview a few days ago and everything was fine. now i updated to breezy final and my kubuntu system is unuseable! wlan doesnt work anymore and X is slow like hell!10:18
DarkSeidtenco tell me about it10:19
DarkSeidI should have stayed with Hoary10:19
DarkSeidand just used the backports10:19
Riddellhal fix is people want to test it out http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase-kio-plugins_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb10:19
evilmegamanwhat is a good bittorrent client that doesn't need gtk because I get an error about gtk when I use the regular one...10:19
frank23tenco: that's pretty shitty.10:20
kkathmanI have noticed that KDE is a bit slower also, but for some unknown reason..other than that, everything is working fine for me10:20
DarkSeidUSB devices are borked for some reason in Kubuntu10:20
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Juagarwhat should I install to play .mp3 files with amarok? I've tryed gstreamer0.8-mad and doesn't works10:20
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elviroloJuagar: go in the peripherals tab10:21
elviroloJuagar: no sry the filesystem tab10:21
elviroloyeah i have many issues with breezy too10:21
elviroloevilmegaman: ktorrent10:21
elviroloany ideas about my prob ?10:21
DarkSeidI am playing mp3's right now with Amarok10:21
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elviroloJuagar: use xine, it's much better10:21
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tencoDarkSeid: the mouse pointer moves sluggisch with a great lag and i dont know whats the problem with the wlan, the interfaces config file wasnt touched10:21
frank23Juagar: there is also an amarok-xine package10:21
Kejk_PLJuagar: you have to change engine to gstreamer in options too10:21
tenco*sluggish10:21
evilmegamanokay elvirolo, is there any ones that also have a trackerless feature like DHT and stuff?10:21
JuagarI'm gonna try10:21
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DarkSeidtenco I feel your pain bro10:22
elviroloevilmegaman: i don't know but i doubt it10:22
DarkSeidI had to install Gnome 10:22
DarkSeidso I could use the GDM10:22
evilmegamanok thanks :)10:22
DarkSeidKDM was hosing up10:22
tencogerman language pack for kdevelop is missing, too10:22
Juagarkejk_PL: I've the gstreamer engine 10:22
DarkSeidand now with USB support borked it seems its a bit more than X and some minor issues10:23
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DarkSeidI switch over to Gnome and X is fine and fast, USB works10:23
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DarkSeidkill the session and start a session in K and borked10:23
MPCis any concensus observation emerging here? ... watching #kubuntu and #ubuntu, is it safe to conclude that there are a LOT of problems with this new Breezy version? ... or is this just normal hardware issues volume?10:23
RiddellDarkSeid: I just posted the fix for USB support, testers would be good10:23
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tencoseems to me like the transition from 3.4.2 -> 3.4.3 is the problem10:24
DarkSeidok downloaded and installing now10:24
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Riddellkillall kded && kded  after install10:24
tencoRiddell: would test it, if my wlan would still work10:24
tencoRiddell: no net connection -> no testing10:25
VR^hey all, i burned 3 ISOs, all of which didn't work, i checked the md5sum on every one of them, burned at 2x speed, and yet, i couldnt install... i even burned some other stuff with the same cds and everything went well.10:25
VR^i'm at my wits end10:25
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VR^i burned them with gnomebaker10:26
ickeI just updated my Breezy Preview to 'normal' Breezy but i can not find Guidance; Where can i find it / how to run i?10:26
ickeit*?10:26
MEtaLpREswhat is the directory that has the C header files?10:26
DarkSeidRiddell "killall kded && kded"?10:27
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frank23MEtaLpREs: for the kernel? I think the default is fine but you need linux-headers installes10:27
MEtaLpREsthe default directory its giving me doesn't exsist10:28
Juagarok amarok-xine works perfectly!10:28
Juagarthanks for all10:28
MEtaLpREsi dont have /usr/src/linux10:28
Juagar:D10:28
RiddellDarkSeid: that's what you need to run after install10:28
DarkSeidwell then it doesn't work10:28
DarkSeidFATAL: DCOP communication problem!10:28
DarkSeidAborted10:28
frank23MEtaLpREs: do you have linux-kernel-headers installed?10:28
evilmegamananyone have any idea how to get java working using just the official sun .bin installer?10:29
DarkSeidkaboomk10:29
RiddellDarkSeid: try just running kded10:29
MEtaLpREsheh, nope i dont have it installed, i bet thats a good reason10:29
DarkSeidFATAL: DCOP communication problem!10:29
DarkSeidAborted10:29
DarkSeidkaboom10:30
Riddellhmm, not good10:30
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DarkSeidwell it isn't any worse than what it was10:30
DarkSeidLOL10:30
DarkSeidat least you tried10:30
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DarkSeidwell if I have to use the camera I will just switch over to Gnome right quick10:32
DarkSeidooh Riddell you also know that the KDM is flakey as all hell?10:32
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RiddellDarkSeid: what's up with it?10:33
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DarkSeidwell for one it's an IFFY start10:34
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DarkSeidsometimes it will go to the KDM on boot others it will just die and drop you to a console10:34
evilmegamananyone have a clue on how to get java working?10:35
DarkSeidgiving permission errors on Display 0:010:35
evilmegamanI have been asking for HOURS10:35
DarkSeidits a crap shoot to say the least10:35
DarkSeid3 out of 5 times it worked for me10:35
DarkSeidso I switched to the GDM10:35
DarkSeidthing is I didnt have this problem with the RCs10:36
DarkSeidlast week 5.10 was stable as all hell10:36
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DarkSeidthen I did the upgrade to the final and its just blech10:36
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Russel-Athleticmhhh i have a problem with katapult: in the livecd (beta 1) i had an icon and i coul configure katapult with it, but the icon is now gone (kubuntu rc1 install; now uptodate)10:40
epWhich insturctions should I follow for nvidia 3d drivers? How about method given in the unofficial ubuntu guide?  That seem simple enough.10:40
apokryphos!nvidia10:40
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:40
epthanks10:41
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Russel-Athleticsomebody a solution?10:42
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Riddellapokryphos: control-c10:45
apokryphosaha, thanks.10:45
RiddellRussel-Athletic: alt+space  control-c10:45
Russel-Athleticthx!10:45
Riddellwhich is ugly I know10:46
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Russel-Athleticbut why is the default behaviour not in tray?10:47
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apokryphosRussel-Athletic: no point in having it there, really10:47
apokryphosit should function as an alternate to alt+f2, if you think about it (but better, of course).10:47
apokryphosit's not something we'd really ever want closed10:47
Russel-Athleticno but you want to configure it sometimes and don't run to the maintainer everytime you don't remember the right shortcut10:48
apokryphosthere'll probably be a handbook for it soon10:49
Russel-Athleticok...10:49
Russel-Athletic(i led it stay in tray for now :D)10:49
apokryphosthough it would be nice to have an easily accessible config option, I guess10:49
Russel-Athleticperhaps a systemsettings module...10:49
apokryphosan option, no doubt10:52
Russel-Athleticmhhh i just imagine a "konqueror-plugin": you type a location (of course with tab-completion) and the file is opened with it's default programm10:52
Russel-Athleticthat would be really nice10:52
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JuerdRussel-Athletic: Hit alt+spacebar10:53
Mekonikummoin10:53
JuerdOh, nevermind10:53
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JuerdI was lagging behind10:54
Russel-Athleticnice!10:55
Russel-Athleticneed a bit to know how to do a completion10:55
RezDawganyone else have problems with firefox after going to 5.10?10:55
RiddellRussel-Athletic: it needs an arrow on it that brings up the menu when clicked is all10:55
JuerdRezDawg: Can you be a little less specific?10:56
JuerdI think not.10:57
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RezDawgsorry. I cant get firefox to run at all since I upgraded to breezy10:57
djibhey10:57
JuerdThat's clearer10:57
JuerdWhat do you get if you try to run it?10:57
djibwhat packages do you need to install under breezy to be able to play mp3 files ?10:57
RezDawgit says its malformatted. so i uninstalled it and then reinstalled but still no luck10:57
RezDawgI made sure to update all the packages before doing so10:58
frank23RezDawg: try mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old10:58
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jrattner1What is thiis /uisr/share/ubuntu artwork error and how do i fix it11:04
slow-motionn811:05
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ickehow do i run/find guidance?11:06
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_johnhello11:11
_johnI have a question I hope someone can help me with11:11
JuerdAsk it11:12
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poimenI downloaded both and burned the isos upto speed in my 40x cd-rw and I get in both a error in the install about files not being eble to install in the HD should I burn them in a slower speed??11:13
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poimenI am talking about kubuntu iso11:13
poimenand ubuntu one11:13
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_johnalright I plug my ipod in and konqueror pops up and says An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1:11:13
strike4ceHow do I clear my history in kubuntu?11:14
_johnThe file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist.11:14
_johnit worked before then it started giving me that11:14
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_johnany idea on how I might fix this?11:16
RezDawg!ubotu tell RezDawg about java11:16
brosiozhow could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?11:17
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_johnCan anyone please help me?11:18
ickehow do i run/find guidance?11:20
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gathhello11:20
gathmp3`s on amarok doesn`t run, why not?11:20
ickeKubuntu doesnt have mp3 support out of the box11:21
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_johncan anyone help me with my ipod problem11:21
gathand how i get support?11:21
arafati am setting up a dual bott system at the moment (winxp and kubuntu)... on whihc partition do i have the bootable flag to set? winxp partition or /boot ?11:22
JuerdWhat is the default user name in kubuntu?11:22
JuerdI know what password I typed :)11:22
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ickegath:  you need a package11:24
_johndoh seem to have hit a wall here11:24
gathwhich package?11:24
gathover apt?11:24
ickedunno exactly, but i am searching11:24
ickeyou can download it via apt yes (or via Kynaptic/Synaptic)11:25
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_johnnstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine.11:25
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_johnfor mp311:25
JuerdWhy is ubuntu back to grub?11:25
JuerdI was glad it used lilo11:25
icke[23:25:42]  <_john> nstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine. <- you may need to edit your source.list file11:26
Corvuswhen has ubuntu used lilo by default ?11:26
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strike4ceWhy is my address bar in Konqueror and Firefox so small?11:27
strike4ceHow do I adjust?11:27
_johncome on someone gotta know how to help a guy out here11:27
_johnlol11:27
JuerdCorvus: At the time I installed it on my laptop11:28
JuerdCorvus: A month or so ago11:28
strike4ceWhy is my address bar so small in Konqueror and firefoz?11:32
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Tallia1-KubuntUupgrading to breezy... i hope everything will be ok11:33
Tallia1-KubuntU:P11:33
Tallia1-KubuntUi'll let you know :D11:33
Tm_Tok11:33
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strike4ceWhy is my address bar so small in Konqueror and firefoz?????????????????11:35
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Tallia1-KubuntUWOW 1400 file to download11:38
Tallia1-KubuntUthis is a big upgrade :D11:38
Tallia1-KubuntUand will take long time too........ 6 hours11:38
Tallia1-KubuntU.. :P11:38
_johncan anyone help me with a ipod problem?11:38
leveldoc_john: what's the deal, maybe I can help11:39
_johnI plug my ipod in and get a An error occurred while loading media:/sdb111:40
_johnThe file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exis11:40
_johnand sometimes its sdb2 instead11:41
leveldoc_john: I'm sorry, I don't know about this. Maybe the wiki could help?11:41
_johnI found something on one of the fourms it worked before I updated to kde then it went all poopie lol11:42
leveldoc:-)11:42
leveldocI've never tried to connect my iPod to Kubuntu, I have another PC where it's usually connected to, I run ubuntu there.11:42
_johnseems a few others have has the same problem tho11:43
leveldocit's works like a charm under ubuntu11:43
leveldocopen up a thread on the forums then, shouldn't take too long to get it fixed11:43
_johnwhen I was just  running gnome it worked11:43
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_johnbut kde is being funky11:43
leveldocnow you got me curious! :-) I should try it with kde then...11:43
VR^what would i need to get, after my server install is done,  to get a gui?11:44
_johnheheit worked and I was all like yes I got everything done11:44
leveldoc(k)ubuntu-desktop11:44
_johnthen my ipod crapped out11:44
_johnlol11:44
VR^leveldoc: does that install a whole bunch of other stuff?11:44
VR^like office, etc11:44
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leveldocVR^: take a look at packages.ubuntu.com and look at the dependencies11:45
VR^and also, don't i need x?11:45
VR^leveldoc: thanks11:45
leveldocit should install everything you need11:45
VR^ok11:45
leveldocu'r welcome11:45
VR^i just wanted to try a minimal configuration11:45
leveldoctry XFCE then11:45
VR^i did, but i don't know if i can run gnome/kde programs under xfce11:46
leveldocapt-get should figure the part with X out on it's own... :-)11:46
leveldocsure you can11:46
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leveldocit all depends if you have the necessary libraries installed, and usually apt-get takes good care that they are. :-)11:46
VR^i see11:47
VR^so i would not need to worry about x11:47
leveldocI don't think so.11:47
VR^but someone told me i'd need to start it manually, startx xfce for example11:47
leveldochttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/xfce411:48
leveldocwell, if you don't install something like kdm or gdm, you will have to do so, I guess.11:48
VR^i see11:48
leveldocbut I don't know if apt-get lets you install a complete desktop without a graphical login manager11:49
VR^that's kinda risky though, i dont think id know the multiverse repo urls by heart11:49
leveldocso, worst case would be that you would have to add gdm or kdm after xfc411:49
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VR^ok11:49
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gathhello11:49
leveldocit's in the universe repo, should be safe to install.11:49
VR^ok11:50
leveldocgath: hello :-)11:50
gathi have problems with my usb-sticks11:50
leveldoc_john knows something about that :-)11:50
Tm_TRiddell: any knews about hal problem?11:50
gathwhen i put it on the computer i get a error-message11:50
gathBeim Laden von media:/sda1 ist folgender Fehler aufgetreten:11:51
gathDie Datei oder der Ordner media:/sda1 existiert nicht.11:51
gathwhat is wrong?11:51
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_johnJohn knows bout what going to kde?11:51
_johnlol11:51
leveldocgath: you've got the same error as _john :-)11:52
VR^gath: #kubuntu-de11:52
_johnohhhh the ipod thing11:52
_johnseeeee Im not alone!11:52
VR^maybe they can helkp11:52
_johnlol11:52
VR^help*11:52
leveldoclol11:52
_johnfrom what I read its a kde isssue11:52
gathbut it`s only a usb-stick, the same with my card-reader11:52
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Tm_Tgath: known issue :(11:53
_johnits a kde bug of some sort not much to read on it11:53
leveldocwell, I'm gonna take off, have fun11:54
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Tm_Thttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems11:55
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