[12:05] <Duder29> pc
[12:05] <jsubl2> no release party in dallas :(
[12:06] <jsubl2> Duder29: you could try one of the boot options like apic=no  what is your mobo and disks
[12:06] <mpmc> is there a service manager in kubuntu?
[12:06] <Strike4ce> basically this new update is is installing the whole os?
[12:06] <jsubl2> damn the torrents are really hot >400kb
[12:07] <orugo> hey
[12:07] <Strike4ce> whats the fastest way for me to get the updates?
[12:07] <orugo> i need help with SOUND in kubuntu
[12:07] <orugo> i mean
[12:07] <Mars> Hi i have  a problem. I had win deco crystalGL and everything was warking good. But i restarted my pc amd there is an error of that deco, that shows message that i dont have openGL. How can i repair it?
[12:07] <orugo> i play a mp3 file
[12:07] <orugo> and it doesnt work
[12:07] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: have you already changed your sources to point to breezy
[12:07] <Strike4ce> yep
[12:07] <Sgep> Should I comment out 
[12:07] <Sgep> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342
[12:08] <Sgep> Err
[12:08] <frank23> Sgep: yes that one is useless with breezy
[12:09] <Sgep> What exactly needs to be changed?
[12:09] <Strike4ce> sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list RIGHT???
[12:09] <jsubl2> orugo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <mpmc> Is there a service manager in Kubuntu?
[12:09] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 thats the right command to change it correct?
[12:09] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: i am a little weak with sed.. but yeah maybe
[12:09] <Strike4ce> he sed she sed
[12:09] <mpmc> LOL
[12:09] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: i generally do it by hand
[12:10] <Sgep> Just change it and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[12:10] <Strike4ce> why the ll is it taking so long lol
[12:10] <Strike4ce> hell
[12:10] <jsubl2> apt-get update first
[12:10] <orugo> restricted formats?
[12:10] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: usa or europe
[12:10] <Sgep> Do I do apt-get update before or after changing sources.list ?
[12:10] <Strike4ce> well all my updates are coming from ubuntu.com/breezy/main so I guess thats right?
[12:11] <Strike4ce> USA
[12:11] <Sgep> and do I keep 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted' ?
[12:11] <frank23> Sgep: after
[12:11] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: with everyone downloading the server are really slow.. might be faster to use the torrent and get the cd
[12:11] <frank23> Sgep: change it to breezy-updates
[12:11] <Strike4ce> how do you go about doing this?
[12:12] <Strike4ce> im at the 309th file now
[12:12] <Strike4ce> lol
[12:12] <Strike4ce> howmany files are there?
[12:12] <jsubl2> yeah it will be slow... always on release day
[12:12] <mpmc> IS there a GUI Service manager??
[12:12] <jsubl2> I am getting >400kb/sec on the torrents
[12:13] <Duder29> jsubl2 my mb is a ELiteGroup
[12:13] <jsubl2> Duder29: don't ring a bell.. i would try a boot option the cd has info on how to use those maybe the apic=no. 
[12:14] <Duder29> could it maybe be my hard drive? its still formated form a earlier time with other files
[12:14] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 im getting18.3kb and im broadband LMAO
[12:14] <Strike4ce> downloading thru apt get
[12:15] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: yeah i upgraded a couple of files and it was only about that.  damn torrent is fast tho.  I am going to leave mine up for a couple of days
[12:15] <Sgep> "Starting with Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10), K3B does not come with MP3 decoding support out of the box"
[12:15] <jsubl2> i am on breezy anyway
[12:15] <Sgep> I'm downgrade K3B?
[12:15] <frank23> Strike4ce: I upgraded a few days ago:  I probably got 300kb/s on average from the canadian mirrors
[12:15] <Sgep> Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg
[12:15] <Sgep>   Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[12:16] <Sgep> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release
[12:16] <frank23> Sgep: that is not your fault
[12:16] <Strike4ce> how do I setup my bittorrent to download the files?
[12:16] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: you in kde
[12:16] <Strike4ce> yes
[12:17] <Strike4ce> i think
[12:17] <jsubl2> start konq and double click the file or right click and select the program to start it with
[12:17] <Strike4ce> the browser
[12:18] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: yes konqueror the browser.. right click the file and look under open with
[12:19] <Strike4ce> the file? I dont see that
[12:19] <jsubl2> did you download the iso.torrent file
[12:20] <jsubl2> kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent
[12:20] <Sgep> Does 'Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release' prevent it from working?
[12:20] <Strike4ce> lo jus sec
[12:20] <Strike4ce> lol
[12:20] <Sgep> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages
[12:20] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: i am trying to dcc it to you if you want it
[12:20] <Sgep> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[12:21] <Strike4ce> well im not using kde on my desktop have 2 puters sitting here
[12:21] <othernoob> mmh, my alt gr key works like the normal alt key, anyone know how i can change that?
[12:21] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: start your torrent client and just open up the filename.torrent
[12:22] <Kevman> How to I get Firefox in Breezy?
[12:22] <jsubl2> Kevman: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[12:22] <Mars> Hi i have quaetion is it safe to upgrade kubuntu to 5.10 ? 
[12:22] <jsubl2> yes
[12:22] <jsubl2> from hoary yes
[12:23] <Kevman> jsubl2: Doesn't work.
[12:23] <Mars> ok and how much of stuff it will download using distr update?
[12:23] <Strike4ce> im looking for the client its preinstalled on kde right?
[12:23] <frank23> Mars: about 500 MBs
[12:23] <jsubl2> !sources
[12:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:23] <jsubl2> Kevman: follow those links
[12:24] <Kevman> What repo is it in? I thought it was in Universe.
[12:24] <Mars> I hope upgrading it will help me with my openGL problems :)
[12:24] <jsubl2> !find ktorrent
[12:24] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[12:25] <Strike4ce> i dont have it on here
[12:25] <Strike4ce> can i stop this thru terminal?
[12:25] <Strike4ce> its installing the files
[12:25] <Mars> I dont know why but after i edited xorg.cof my window deco works wrong, and shows info that there is not OpenGL :/
[12:26] <Sgep> Can I replace my whole sources.list with the one from mentioned by ubotu?
[12:26] <Mars> BTW where can i find or download sources list for 5.10?
[12:27] <Kevman> DAMN. There's no kedit and kate crashes!?
[12:27] <Sgep> !sources
[12:27] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:28] <Kevman> Wow, Breezy is broke bad.
[12:28] <Mars> do i have to delete # to make source work or i have to leave it?
[12:28] <jsubl2> not for me
[12:29] <jsubl2> delete the # to enable the source.. # comments it out
[12:29] <frank23> Mars: you have do delete #   # means a comment 
[12:29] <Kevman> There's no kedit, kate won't run, and I can't apt-get install kedit, it has unmet dependencies!
[12:29] <Mars> you can use pico
[12:29] <gdh> nano :)
[12:29] <trav> can someone please help me with the partition setup to install linuix
[12:30] <jsubl2> Kevman: my fresh install did not see any of those problems
[12:30] <Kevman> Mind did. What could be wrong?
[12:30] <jsubl2> trav if you question is more specific
[12:30] <jsubl2> trav then maybe
[12:30] <Strike4ce> trav is this a dual boot?
[12:31] <trav> strike ace yes
[12:31] <trav> hda1 windows for my gf, hdb1 linux for me
[12:32] <Strike4ce> trav http://whoiam55.at.preempted.net/?p=18
[12:32] <Kevman> Why didn't they include kedit?
[12:32] <slow-motion> n8
[12:32] <Strike4ce> how big of a drive trav?
[12:33] <trav> 250g
[12:33] <Strike4ce> wow
[12:33] <frank23> Kevman: kedit is in universe
[12:33] <Strike4ce> how much room do you think you will need?
[12:33] <Strike4ce> did you do a backup?
[12:33] <_brady> can I just do a upgrade-dist to go from 5.0.4 to 5.10 or do I need to modify my sources.list file?
[12:33] <Strike4ce> plus you need to defragment that drive before you partition
[12:34] <Kevman> frank23: I know, but it won't install.
[12:34] <trav> well i just want the big one for myself, the other is a 10g, mostly filled with my gf's msoffice stuff
[12:35] <frank23> !tell _brady about upgrade2breezy
[12:35] <Strike4ce> the other partition? or do you have more than one hardrive?
[12:36] <trav> yes two hard drives
[12:36] <troy> apt is sooo slow *whines*
[12:37] <frank23> troy: today is a bit exceptional for the servers
[12:37] <Strike4ce> well i think that linux will make itself the master drive so when you partition it will ask what size if you want her to have only 10gb then make yours around 230 or 240gb
[12:37] <Duder29> man I have tried 3 different CDROM's and I still get errors when trying to boot up the install cd (kubuntu) :(
[12:37] <Duder29> this sucks
[12:37] <Kevman>   kedit: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3) but 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu7 is to be installed
[12:37] <Strike4ce> ohh ok
[12:38] <Kevman> I get that when I try to apt-get kedit
[12:38] <Strike4ce> you'll have to install windows on her 10gb hardrive
[12:38] <Duder29> it says "cannot initialize debconf template"
[12:38] <frank23> Kevman: did you change everything in your sources.list to breezy?
[12:38] <Kevman> frank23: I shouldn't have to. Its a fresh install.
[12:38] <frank23> Kevman: oh
[12:39] <trav> windows is already installed on the other
[12:39] <Kevman> Anyway, I have no text editor to look at sources.list!
[12:39] <trav> and how would i make a linux-swap on that same drive too?
[12:39] <Strike4ce> ok im not sure but you have to set that 10gb to master too and when you start up it will ask what to boot from
[12:40] <frank23> Kevman: just use nano in a shell
[12:41] <Strike4ce> read the link I gVE YOU TRAV
[12:41] <conn> hi, I set up samba file sharing, and I can access my ubuntu machine via windows, and vice versa, but something's bugging me. I can't ping the hostname of the Windows machine (called "inspiron"), but in smbclient it's listed as \\INSPIRON. It's been a while since I used linux, but I'm wondering should e.g. "ping inspiron" work or do I need to configure something else?
[12:41] <_brady> any ideas on upgrading?  can I just update  my sources.list? and if so, could some kind soul tell me the change?
[12:42] <trav> k i am now thx
[12:42] <_brady> conn: inspiron is your netbois name...it needs to be in dns to ping
[12:42] <_brady> conn: easy way to fix is to add inspiron to your /etc/hosts file
[12:42] <frank23> !tell _brady about upgrade2breezy
[12:43] <frank23> _brady: look at what ubotu sent you
[12:43] <Strike4ce> _brady use this: sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:43] <conn> _brady: thanks, but is there no easier way to dynamically add netbios names to the dns as a client connects to the workgroup?
[12:43] <Duder29> can anyone help me?
[12:43] <frank23> Duder29: when do you get that error?
[12:44] <Kevman> Eh, I just uncommecnted a shitload of repos in sources.list.
[12:44] <Duder29> when I press enter right after the cd boots up
[12:44] <Duder29> its says KUBUNTU press enter to blah blah
[12:45] <frank23> Duder29: do you have any special hardware? sata drives, etc that is not common
[12:45] <Duder29> then it shows all the words goin down the screen and then it starts sayin it cant initialize stuff then just stops
[12:45] <Duder29> no I dont
[12:45] <Strike4ce> put the cd in and then do a restart hit f12 on a dell system and then select boot from cd
[12:45] <_brady> conn: probably a dynamic way, but I don't know how
[12:46] <Duder29> its an old ELITEGROUP K7VZA MB with 512 ram and a 1.66ghz AMD proc
[12:46] <Mustafu> man, I wish I had a machine with those specs atleast ;)
[12:46] <Duder29> lmao
[12:46] <_brady> frank23 and strike4ce thanks!  I didn't see the ubotu tab
[12:46] <Mustafu> I have a P2-400 with 384 ram
[12:46] <Mustafu> :(
[12:46] <Duder29> this is just a spare pc that Id like to learn linux with, but looks like Im not gonna get it to work
[12:47] <Sgep> It's sayign 12h
[12:47] <Strike4ce> Duder29 what is the problem it wont boot from cd?
[12:47] <Sgep> How do I speed the thing up!
[12:47] <frank23> Duder29: yeah I don't know what you can do. 
[12:48] <Duder29> well it boots from the cd but then runs into problems before it ever starts to install
[12:48] <Strike4ce> damn how many files is this? Im at 350 and it stil says 5hrs left
[12:49] <Strike4ce> I know
[12:49] <Strike4ce> What key are you hitting to get it to boot to cd
[12:49] <Strike4ce> fkey
[12:49] <jsubl2> in less time i have gotten the 386 and amd64 version from torrent
[12:49] <Strike4ce> what fkey
[12:49] <jsubl2> i am seeding now
[12:49] <Snoopinator> yop
[12:50] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 can i stop this installation w/o screwing things up?
[12:50] <jsubl2> the servers are bogged down... release day
[12:50] <Strike4ce> thru terminal?
[12:50] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: is it still downloading files 
[12:50] <Snoopinator> does anywone knows where i can get glib ? it seems that gcc needs it
[12:50] <dverzolla> anyone knows a fast mirror to download kubuntu?
[12:50] <Strike4ce> yes installing
[12:50] <dverzolla> torrent sucks ;|
[12:50] <Tm_T> Snoopinator: use apt-get
[12:51] <Duder29> I have it booting from cd then press any key
[12:51] <jsubl2> once it starts installing i think you are committed..  it downloads all files first
[12:51] <Sgep> Can I redirect all networkability to apt-get and apt-get's children?
[12:51] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 then i can apt get torrent and start from there right?
[12:51] <Snoopinator> Tm_T:  i tried ... but it says no package found
[12:51] <Duder29> then it goes to the screen to press enter to continue
[12:51] <jsubl2> yeah
[12:51] <jsubl2> dverzolla: i got over 400kb/sec off my torrent.. worked really well
[12:51] <Strike4ce> ok its not giving your system enough time to boot from cd so you need to push that key like a madman
[12:52] <Strike4ce> Duder29
[12:52] <dverzolla> jsubl2, I get 135kb/s
[12:52] <Sgep> Is 30.3kB/s normal?
[12:52] <dverzolla> jsubl2, I'm from Brazil
[12:52] <jsubl2> ahh.. i am usa
[12:52] <mcquaid> has anyone tried to compile a qt app in breezy yet? 
[12:52] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 i cant back out of terminal now?
[12:52] <dverzolla> jsubl2, :) many torrents 
[12:52] <mcquaid> i've compiled a few with hoary without issue but now i get configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3
[12:52] <seife> hi
[12:52] <Strike4ce> you get that Duder29?
[12:52] <seife> i want to test KDE
[12:53] <Sgep> If I were to close out of Konversation, would it go any faster?
[12:53] <seife> why u guys prefer kde than gnome?
[12:53] <seife> im downloading kubuntu breezy w00t.
[12:53] <Strike4ce> Duder29 ok its not giving your system enough time to boot from cd so you need to push that key like a madman
[12:53] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: you dist-upgrading from command line just <control>c it
[12:53] <Mars__^> HI me again i have question i am going to upgrade to 5.10 but forft i used apt-get -f install. And then i will use   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is it good to do it in this way? (i updated sooources list and i used pt-get -f install, because when i wanted to go to 5.10 it showed me some problems and asked to use previous command) 
[12:53] <Ayiden> does the new kubuntu 5.10 include nvidia drivers?
[12:53] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 do I need to save?
[12:53] <seth_k|lappy> Ayiden, of course, so did 5.04
[12:53] <jsubl2> no
[12:53] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: no
[12:54] <Strike4ce> just close ok
[12:54] <jsubl2> yeah
[12:54] <Strike4ce> ok whats the command to get torrent?
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> mcquaid, you need the QT dev packages
[12:54] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[12:54] <Ayiden> okay how about java?
[12:54] <dverzolla> My Upload rate it's gt download :D
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> libqt3-mt-dev or something, mcquaid 
[12:54] <mcquaid> seth_k|lappy, yeah i have those thats the weird thing
[12:54] <Duder29> Strike4ce what key do u mean>
[12:54] <Duder29> ?
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> mcquaid, they changed names in breezy
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> make sure you have the new ones
[12:55] <mcquaid> yes they were all removed on update, i've just reinstalled them
[12:55] <dverzolla> kubuntu are sponsor from ubuntu?
[12:55] <Snoopinator> any ide to get glic easyly ?
[12:55] <Snoopinator> idea
[12:55] <reuben> i love you all1
[12:55] <frank23> Snoopinator: lol
[12:55] <Snoopinator> :p
[12:55] <Strike4ce> when you boot to cd you have to hit a F12 or something key one of those I dont know try f5
[12:56] <Snoopinator> hmm it's late here, cya guys
[12:56] <Kevman> Alrighty! I'm starting to get into this new Kubuntu.
[12:57] <Duder29> to make it do what Strike4ce? the cd boots up... it just crashes after many erros
[12:57] <Duder29> errors*
[12:57] <frank23> Kevman: did you fix that kedit thing?
[12:57] <Strike4ce> well you better start over and check that drive for errors and defragment it
[12:57] <Strike4ce> before you do anything
[12:59] <god-zero> Strike4ce: defrag is for ms users
[12:59] <frank23> Strike4ce: there is no defrag equivalent in ext3
[01:00] <dverzolla> anyone got update from ubuntu 5.04 to kubunto 5.10? 
[01:00] <dverzolla> using kubuntu-desktop?
[01:00] <god-zero> dverzolla: i do ido!
[01:00] <Mustafu> heh
[01:00] <dverzolla> god-zero, and.. work fine?
[01:00] <BOOTito> anybody can help me whit eagle driver on kubuntu breezy?
[01:01] <Strike4ce> i thought he was trying to install sorry
[01:01] <god-zero> ok 90%
[01:01] <Strike4ce> how do i add a cdrom
[01:01] <dverzolla> god-zero, What about 10% ? :D
[01:01] <Strike4ce> i need to add my cdrom to the sourcelist
[01:02] <god-zero> goofie stuff, prolly kde 3.5 stuff
[01:02] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 how do i add my cdrom to apt's sourcelist
[01:02] <Strike4ce> i did apt-cdrom
[01:03] <god-zero> this  irc # is too fast right now, no chance for real coversations :(
[01:03] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 can you help me?
[01:03] <Elsidox> hello. Im stuck between chooseing kubuntu or kanotix can someone tell me a few reaons why to pick one or the other?
[01:04] <frank23> Elsidox: is kanotix based on debian?
[01:04] <Duder29> Strike4ce I am trying to install. So u think it might be migh hard drive that is bad?
[01:04] <Strike4ce> i dunno Duder29?
[01:04] <Strike4ce> anyone know how to add cdrom to apt source list?
[01:04] <Elsidox> frank23, yes
[01:05] <god-zero> Duder29: prolly not
[01:05] <Duder29> k
[01:05] <frank23> Elsidox: try both ;-)
[01:05] <Duder29> I dont get it
[01:05] <djib> Strike4ce: apt-cdrom add
[01:06] <Elsidox> frank23, lol I dont have enuff cds
[01:06] <Strike4ce> it says put a disc in drive? any disc?
[01:06] <Strike4ce> is that so it will see the cdrom?
[01:07] <EcksEightySix> Elsidox, go kubuntu then! it was released today! fresh stuff :)
[01:07] <Duder29> I got it!!!! I figured out what was wrong! :) I had a bad stick of RAM. I took it out now its installing!! :)
[01:08] <EcksEightySix> Duder29, hot swaping ram stick? :) cool
[01:08] <Strike4ce> it failed to mount the cdrom???/
[01:08] <Strike4ce> WTF???
[01:08] <steph> how do i make my system boot to text mode rather than gui?
[01:09] <steph> if i make my default runlevel 1 rather than 2, will that do it?
[01:09] <steph> runlevels in ubuntu are different than slack apparently
[01:10] <Kevman> Why can't I get a refresh rate higher than 60Hz?
[01:24] <Kevman> Anyone know what the name of the .dll Xine needs to play WMA?
[01:29] <_brady> kevman: I think you need the w32codecs package...though I don't know where to find it
[01:29] <god-zero> again: anyone else seeding kubuntu? I'm only pushing, say, 64KB/s. Anyone else pushing better?
[01:30] <_brady> god-zero: joining the torrent soon
[01:30] <_brady> I'll let you know what I get
[01:31] <god-zero> kk,good, I'm not sure if I'm getting a badconnect due to ktorrent
[01:31] <Juerd> god-zero: I stopped seeding after uploading over 20 GB
[01:31] <god-zero> holly
[01:31] <Juerd> Big pipe
[01:31] <Juerd> This was a matter of hours.
[01:31] <jsubl2> god-zero: i am  not seeding that much right now  50 someodd kb/sec
[01:32] <_brady> kevman: http://nozell.com/blog/archives/2005/07/22/w32codecs-for-ubuntu-hoary/
[01:32] <jsubl2> downloads are complete.. just seeding
[01:32] <god-zero> I D/Led about 300-400KB/s, but I can't saturate my upload
[01:32] <jsubl2> god-zero: yeah that is about what i got
[01:33] <jsubl2> i have mine capped at 80 kb
[01:33] <penguinboy> my badger is downloading at 16.4 kb/sec....this sucks
[01:33] <jsubl2> penguinboy: iso or torrent
[01:33] <penguinboy> iso
[01:34] <god-zero> kubuntu 386 iso
[01:34] <jsubl2> yeah that servers are all really bogged down.. torrent might be faster
[01:34] <penguinboy> is the torrent faster???
[01:34] <jsubl2> penguinboy: can be
[01:34] <jsubl2> normally is when everyone is going for iso's
[01:34] <jsubl2> i have uploaded 350m
[01:35] <jsubl2> i got the amd64 and 386
[01:35] <god-zero> hop on the torrent, I got bandwidth to spare (386 install iso)
[01:35] <jsubl2> god-zero: usa?
[01:35] <god-zero> yes
[01:35] <jsubl2> me too.. dallas
[01:35] <god-zero> minnesota
[01:36] <jsubl2> i just felt a cold breeze
[01:36] <penguinboy> i am trying to install bittorrent now
[01:36] <jsubl2> i can dcc you the torrent file
[01:37] <god-zero> jsubl2: lol, It's like 60 here... not too  cold
[01:37] <penguinboy> how do you download a bittorrent?
[01:37] <_brady> penguinboy: me too...the apt servers are totally bogged
[01:37] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[01:38] <penguinboy> thanks sub2
[01:38] <jsubl2> :)
[01:38] <penguinboy> brb
[01:38] <god-zero> d/l the *.torrent to /home/mynamehere open ktorrent, load /home/mynamehere/cooldownload.torrent.... wait a bit
[01:39] <jsubl2> i like release days.. get a big torrent grid going.. kinda fun
[01:40] <god-zero> does anyone want me to e-mail the .torrent to them?
[01:40] <_brady> what repo is ktorrent in?  I get a "couldn't find package" error
[01:40] <god-zero> john.godzero@gmail.com
[01:40] <jsubl2> universe _brady 
[01:40] <_brady> tks
[01:40] <jsubl2> i will send it god-zero 
[01:41] <hydrogen> ktorrent is in extragear.. so ya, it'd be universe
[01:41] <_brady> hmmm
[01:41] <_brady> I have eb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe in my sources.list
[01:41] <jsubl2> god-zero: it is off to you
[01:42] <jsubl2> _brady: do you have gtorrent
[01:42] <_brady> nope
[01:42] <hydrogen> or just bittornado/bittorrent work
[01:42] <_brady> I was trying to d/l bittorrent via kynaptic, but it keeps timing out
[01:42] <jsubl2> gnome-btdownload bittornado-gui 
[01:43] <_brady> unfortunately I have no bt clients :-(
[01:43] <_brady> I just installed kubuntu last night
[01:43] <jsubl2> sudo apt-cache search torrent
[01:43] <_brady> the 5.0.4 version, of course
[01:43] <god-zero> _brady: thanks, but I was offering the torrent
[01:43] <god-zero> lol, I got your email
[01:44] <god-zero> hydrogen: bittornado should work good
[01:45] <_brady> well, I may have a larger issue...if ktorrent is in universe, and it (universe) is in my source.list file, then WTF?
[01:45] <_brady> sources.list*
[01:45] <god-zero> hrm
[01:46] <jsubl2> i don't know about hoary and ktorrent i have been running breezy for a couple of months
[01:46] <_brady> apt-cache search torrent returns a few hits, but not ktorrent
[01:46] <jsubl2> use a different client
[01:46] <_brady> ok...just wanted to make sure I had the repos right
[01:46] <Octane> are kde 3.5 beta packages out for amd64?
[01:47] <god-zero> sec
[01:47] <Kevman> What should I use to play video? Xine and kaffiene do nothing but crash :/
[01:47] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:47] <jsubl2> then get the codecs
[01:49] <god-zero> section : universe/net component : universe according to synaptic
[01:49] <god-zero> Kevman: : motherboard adio (ac'97)?
[01:51] <god-zero> Octane: nno, not to my knowledge
[01:52] <jsubl2> Kevman: codecs are wget http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[01:53] <god-zero> _brady: jsubl2: I'm running 3.5 b1.. ktorrent didn't connect before. May be unique to me
[01:54] <god-zero> before= 3.4
[01:54] <Sgep> hiall
[01:54] <_brady> I went with qtorrent...it was small and I was getting a lousy d/l rate with apt servers
[01:54] <Duder29> is there a way to get games for the new kubuntu? like (minesweeper etc..) or are they already on here? Im new to linux
[01:55] <god-zero> Duder29: I have 40ish? right now
[01:55] <Sgep> Is there a way to download/install breezy somehow w/ rsync, or am I talking about something I know nothing about?
[01:55] <Duder29> how?
[01:55] <god-zero> Sgep: do the torrent thing
[01:56] <god-zero> Duder29: 95% are simple games
[01:56] <jsubl2> god-zero: that is the same version i am using
[01:56] <god-zero> all are in repos
[01:56] <Duder29> yea thats what I mean, how did u get them?
[01:57] <god-zero> would you like me to postbin my sources.list?
[01:57] <Duder29> sure
[01:57] <Duder29> :)
[01:57] <Duder29> Im new like I said, so Im not real sure how to do it
[01:58] <jsubl2> Duder29: did you get the install cd to boot
[01:58] <Sgep> Can I cancel the apt-get?
[01:58] <jsubl2> as long as it is still downloading you can control c 
[01:59] <Duder29> yes
[01:59] <Duder29> I did
[02:00] <Duder29> I want firefox!! :)
[02:00] <Sgep> After I upgrade via CD, then do I do the dist-upgrade?
[02:00] <Duder29> I dont know how... but i want it
[02:00] <Duder29> ;)
[02:00] <_brady> have you tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox?
[02:01] <_brady> that's how I did it last night
[02:01] <Duder29> no
[02:01] <god-zero> Duder29: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/392918
[02:01] <Duder29> I dont know anything about linux yet
[02:01] <Duder29> I want to learn
[02:01] <god-zero> learn you will my young padawan
[02:01] <Duder29> ;)
[02:02] <_brady> thanks for the pastebin
[02:02] <Duder29> god-zero ok what do I do once I copy all that?
[02:02] <Floker> hello
[02:02] <Sgep> failed
[02:02] <Floker> i've been stopped by the police 10mins ago :[ 
[02:02] <god-zero> Duder29: that should be your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <Duder29> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/392918
[02:04] <god-zero> Floker: how fast wee you going?
[02:04] <Floker> that was not the reason
[02:04] <Floker> i was driving without headligh
[02:04] <Floker> t
[02:04] <Floker> (2h at night)
[02:05] <Floker> a well was about 10kph too fast. but nevermind
[02:05] <god-zero> Duder: sudo kedit.... /etc/apt/sources.list...
[02:06] <Floker> they were looking for some thief
[02:06] <Floker> and they sayd he would wear the same clothes
[02:06] <duder> god-zero how do I save that to my source list? it says it cannot overite it
[02:06] <Floker> and they jumpt on the brakes and i almost hit em
[02:06] <Floker> idiots
[02:06] <god-zero> sudo
[02:06] <god-zero> sudo = IamGod
[02:06] <_brady> does bittorrent dislike NATs?
[02:07] <Floker> nats dislike bittorent
[02:07] <god-zero> kdesu for gui stuff
[02:07] <_brady> port forward?
[02:07] <god-zero> "kdesu kedit"
[02:07] <Floker> but you can set up your router to "like bt" ;)
[02:07] <_brady> is it worth it?
[02:07] <Floker> yes abolutely
[02:08] <_brady> k...udp or tcp (or rtfm ;-) ?
[02:08] <Duder29> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:08] <Floker> rtfm i guess ;)
[02:08] <Floker> depends
[02:08] <Floker> google for "port forwarding" + bittorrent
[02:08] <_brady> tks
[02:08] <Floker> np
[02:09] <duder> hey guys I have the linux drivers for my sound card... how do I install them?
[02:10] <Floker> duder: what files do you have?
[02:12] <satafterh> where  do i get the dvd version
[02:12] <Floker> of what
[02:12] <satafterh> kubuntu
[02:12] <duder> Floker I am trying to find them
[02:12] <Floker> i think there is no dvd version
[02:12] <Floker> k duder
[02:12] <Floker> ok
[02:12] <satafterh> the site says there is
[02:12] <Floker> mh
[02:13] <Floker> wtf? kubuntu 5.10 is out
[02:13] <Floker> nice
[02:13] <Floker> http://82.211.81.153/kubuntu/5.10/ this is everything
[02:13] <Floker> there IS a DVD version of UBuNtU
[02:14] <Floker> you may install ubuntu as "base" and then kde ;)
[02:14] <duder> Floker I see a folder in the drivers that says Linux, when I click that I see Caldera, RedFlag, and Redhat
[02:14] <Floker> what distrbution do you have?
[02:15] <Floker> and what type of soundcard
[02:15] <duder> the new kubuntu
[02:15] <Floker> well, i would guess that sound works out of the box
[02:15] <duder> and my sound is "VIA686" embeded on my MB
[02:16] <Floker> and it doestn work?
[02:16] <duder> no my sound does not work
[02:16] <Floker> mh
[02:16] <duder> I get a box that pops up saying it cannot find my sound
[02:16] <duder> mixer cannot be found
[02:16] <Floker> sry man, im a noob. but you can check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:17] <willie> I just failed to recompile my kernel with this error..
[02:17] <willie> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[02:17] <willie> anybody got a clue -- cos I don't
[02:17] <willie> cmd was -- fakeroot make-kpkg -append-to-version=willie-athlon kernel_image --initrd binary 
[02:18] <Floker> sorry willie i dont know
[02:18] <Floker> a well 
[02:18] <willie> s'OK you are in good company
[02:18] <Floker> actulally, there was some article at www.ubuntuusers.de but its in german
[02:19] <willie> ich sprachen ein bisschen
[02:19] <Floker> hehe
[02:19] <god-zero> Willie's compiling a kernel, and asking us noobs what's wrong. Who's the %^#^%#&
[02:19] <Floker> hrhr
[02:19] <willie> Im a kubuntu noob   not a total noob
[02:20] <Floker> WILLIE: try this:
[02:20] <Floker> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=403
[02:20] <willie> I know enough to be dangerous but noit enough to be useful :-)
[02:20] <Floker> hope that helps
[02:20] <Floker> lol
[02:20] <willie> ta
[02:21] <god-zero> sorry... willie, I thought it was funny
[02:21] <Floker> there are some more sites with information that maybe helps you willie
[02:21] <Floker> http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22+No+rule+to+make+target+%60init%2Fmain.o%27%2C+needed+by+%60init%2Fbuilt-in.o%27.++Stop%22&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
[02:26] <god-zero> Hrm, seems like everyone's gone to bed. We can now focus on 1 or 2 probs
[02:26] <penguinboy> how do you install bittorrent
[02:26] <god-zero> My god, 10ihs hours ago, this irc was scarry
[02:26] <duder> so no one knows how I can figure out how to install my sound drivers?
[02:26] <Floker> apt-get install bittorrent?
[02:27] <duder> :(
[02:28] <god-zero> duder: a box like can't find dev/dsp?
[02:28] <god-zero> or different?
[02:28] <duder> what do u mean god-zero?
[02:28] <willie> god-zero: no prb -- no offence taken  :-)
[02:30] <god-zero> Willie: some times I overthink things and thing person X might be offended
[02:30] <god-zero> s/thing/think
[02:30] <duder> god-zero do u have any clue how I can install these drivers that i have downloaded?
[02:31] <korkster> evening all
[02:32] <willie> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware".  <[02:32] <god-zero> duder: can you pls re-state the prob please?
[02:33] <god-zero> willie: I know where u live
[02:34] <willie> yeah the domain is a bit of a give away
[02:34] <duder> sure. I have an onboard audio device and when I boot up kubuntu I get an error saying it cannot find my sound device. so I went and found my drivers online and it said they are linux drivers. but when I look in the folder after I extract. I do not see a "Ubuntu" folder
[02:34] <willie> god-zero: where do you live?
[02:34] <god-zero> willie: in the frozen north
[02:34] <penguinboy> i wanna ask a stupid quesiton....i just installed the bittorrent client....now how do I install the badger through bittorrent????
[02:34] <god-zero> minn
[02:35] <willie> Aberdeen?
[02:35] <god-zero> willie: minnesota
[02:36] <willie> considerably south of me :-)
[02:36] <god-zero> penguinboy: boy do you have to work on your conversation skills
[02:36] <penguinboy> lol
[02:36] <god-zero> i thiink you meen
[02:36] <penguinboy> yes?
[02:37] <god-zero> download the .torrent to /home/meliveshere
[02:37] <duder> god-zero what do u think?
[02:37] <god-zero> then pen the torrent with bitTorrent/ec
[02:38] <god-zero> dud?
[02:38] <god-zero> open
[02:39] <god-zero> willie: where do you live?
[02:39] <stodge> Does anyone have a sub-menu in their Start menu called "Debian"?
[02:39] <willie> I thought you knew :-)
[02:39] <willie> hint -- its not Kentucky
[02:39] <penguinboy> sounds difficult
[02:40] <penguinboy> i live in Kentukcy
[02:40] <thoreauputic> stodge: you have that if you installed the "menu" package (and maybe menu-xdg)
[02:40] <stodge> Is that installed by default?
[02:40] <stodge> I don't remember installing it
[02:40] <god-zero> willie: aberdeen? where is that? stodge: yes
[02:40] <stodge> Is it safe to remove?
[02:40] <willie> god-zero: Glasgow Scotland and its 0141
[02:40] <duder> how do I turn off army time?
[02:40] <duder> lol
[02:41] <willie> which strangely enough is our local dia code :-) as well as the time
[02:41] <thoreauputic> stodge: I guess sudo apt-get --remove purge menu menu-xdg would remove it (never tried)
[02:41] <willie> army time?
[02:41] <duder> yes
[02:41] <stodge> lol am I brave enough? :)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> stodge: bah sorry - apt-get remove --purge 
[02:41] <duder> 20:21 instead of 8:41
[02:41] <stodge> :) Thanks
[02:41] <willie> what is army time? GMT zulu?
[02:42] <duder> 20:41*
[02:42] <reagleBRKLN> how do i get java, limewire, azureus, etc. in breezy?
[02:42] <duder> uhh 
[02:42] <duder> I just want it to say 8:41pm
[02:42] <duder> lol
[02:42] <thoreauputic> americans refer to 24hr time as army time apparently
[02:42] <jsubl2> duder right click on the clock -- date and time format -- time & dates -- 
[02:42] <stodge> I removed it using adept - it wants to stop kdm???
[02:42] <duder> correct
[02:42] <god-zero> army time = 24 clock.. more specifically zulu/GMT
[02:42] <duder> so what do I set it as?
[02:43] <stodge> It's removing my whole damn KDE!!
[02:43] <jsubl2> pH:MM:SS AMPM
[02:43] <thoreauputic> stodge: well you better not do it then :)
[02:43] <stodge> lol
[02:43] <jsubl2> duder use the drop down and select it
[02:44] <duder> I selected it and applied but it didnt change
[02:44] <duder> do I have to restart?
[02:44] <willie> duder: nope
[02:44] <god-zero> dud: not really
[02:44] <duder> still says 20:44
[02:44] <jsubl2> logout and back in
[02:44] <god-zero> next time time =ok
[02:45] <duder> ahh ok cool
[02:45] <duder> now if I could get my sound working I will be good to go:)
[02:45] <god-zero> prolly
[02:45] <duder> :)
[02:46] <god-zero> try yhe dirrent output engines, some don't work for me either
[02:46] <crimsun> duder: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[02:46] <Hobbsee> duder: what were you trying to do, sorry?  get the clock in 12 hour time?
[02:46] <korkster> thoreauputic I just refer to it as 24-hour time :)
[02:46] <Floker> hey
[02:46] <Floker> is anyone on efnet right now?
[02:46] <Floker> need help
[02:46] <duder> crimson do I type that in the terminal?
[02:46] <korkster> heya Hobbsee :)
[02:46] <Hobbsee> duder: yes
[02:46] <Hobbsee> hi korkster :)
[02:46] <korkster> Hobbsee I'm upgrading right now...didnt know it would take this long tho
[02:47] <Hobbsee> hehe...reps are very slow...
[02:47] <duder> it didnt do anything.. it just went down one line
[02:47] <Hobbsee> you're getting it from a mirror?
[02:47] <duder> I downloaded my drivers for the sound but I dont know how to install them
[02:47] <crimsun> duder: old computer? usb sound card?
[02:47] <korkster> Hobbsee nah just the repos...its no big deal
[02:47] <Floker> are there any officials on irc if some admin is a real prick and i want to report?
[02:47] <korkster> I got time
[02:47] <Hobbsee> getting the thunderbird update at 11.9kbps
[02:47] <Hobbsee> lol true
[02:47] <duder> ehh oldER MB onboard sound
[02:48] <korkster> Im just crossing my fingers that it all works :)
[02:48] <Hobbsee> same, in another terminal, so i can still do everything here
[02:48] <Hobbsee> korkster: yeah, definetly, hope so
[02:48] <Hobbsee> duder: everything turned up in alsamixer?
[02:48] <god-zero> korkster: forget the crossing the fingers.
[02:48] <duder> uhh it says mixer not found
[02:48] <Floker> :(
[02:49] <god-zero> gcc 4. 0 made it way hard
[02:49] <korkster> god-zero no crossing the fingers ???
[02:49] <korkster> that means either its a lock, or I dont have a chance :)
[02:49] <crimsun> duder: lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:49] <korkster> heya crimsun :)
[02:49] <god-zero> I think gcc 44.0 caused a lotta hard times
[02:49] <god-zero> 4.0
[02:50] <duder> duder@kubuntu:~$ lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:50] <duder> usage: lspnp [-b]  [-v[v] ]  [device #] 
[02:50] <duder> crimsun thats what it said
[02:50] <reagleBRKLN> hrmm using kubuntu breezy and have a cdrom mounted, but left click to eject, the option ain't there?
[02:51] <jsubl2> how about on the right click
[02:51] <reagleBRKLN> how to unmount/eject?
[02:51] <reagleBRKLN> oops, yes, i meant alt-click, option not there
[02:51] <reagleBRKLN> (have my buttons reversed)
[02:53] <crimsun> duder: paste output from lspnp -v to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:53] <reagleBRKLN> the alt-click option in media://, but not desktop
[02:53] <duder> usage: lspnp [-b]  [-v[v] ]  [device #] 
[02:54] <crimsun> duder: lspnp -v
[02:54] <reagleBRKLN> now, how to get java/limewire/freemind/azureus working
[02:54] <crimsun> don't paste here.
[02:55] <duder> Im not sure what u want me to do with lspnp -v
[02:55] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[02:55] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:57] <duder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3051
[02:58] <crimsun> sudo mount /proc/bus/usb
[02:58] <crimsun> err
[02:58] <crimsun> pnp, not usb
[02:59] <duder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3053
[03:01] <crimsun> duder: I'll be back later, but you need to mount /proc/bus/pnp before I can really help
[03:02] <duder> crimsun I dont know how to do that
[03:02] <brady_> duder: could you post the output of "dmesg" ?
[03:03] <brady_> need to see if your sound card is being detected
[03:07] <duder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3054
[03:11] <duder> what ya think brady?
[03:11] <brady_> sorry..waas away from the keyboard...looking at it now
[03:12] <duder> k thanks
[03:13] <Ravensky> hey, what's the command to reconfigure X again?
[03:15] <brady_> duder: well, doesn't look like your sound chipset is being autodetected.  do you know what sound card/chipset you have?
[03:15] <satafterh> what is and where is Guidance configuration tools.
[03:16] <duder> yes ( VIA 686 )
[03:17] <jsubl2> maybe sudo modprobe via82xx
[03:17] <satafterh> never mind just read about it
[03:17] <orangey> hey all! are the backports broken?
[03:18] <satafterh> hay all there are no dvd images
[03:18] <jsubl2> it is only 1cd
[03:18] <brady_> duder: try what jsubl2 suggested.  if nothing happens, take a look at the syslog file at /var/log/messages
[03:18] <satafterh> no for the dvd version
[03:18] <jsubl2> don't know
[03:19] <duder> no it said it wasnt found
[03:19] <duder> :(
[03:19] <brady_> that modprobe wasn't found?
[03:19] <satafterh> i only have dvdr right now and i live in the woods
[03:19] <jsubl2> satafterh: wont it burn a regular iso.. would think it would
[03:19] <strike4ce> Will it hurt to install some part of the upgrades?
[03:20] <duder> satafterh just burn the iso to a dvd
[03:20] <satafterh> dont know never tried that
[03:20] <duder> it wil lwork
[03:20] <brady_> strike4ce: I've only been using kubuntu for 24 hours, but I'd assume not
[03:20] <satafterh> i like the way you think
[03:20] <jsubl2> Duder brady configuring the old isa pnp stuff.. man that is tough especially when you ain't done it for 5 years
[03:21] <jsubl2> Duder brady_ i am positive i can't do it
[03:21] <duder> yea I bet
[03:22] <satafterh> Mmmmmm Homer like duder
[03:22] <brady_> duder: did the modprobe command fail, or did the module loading fail?
[03:23] <jsubl2> no output is a good thing.. duder brady_ run alsamixer in terminal window to be sure
[03:23] <brady_> jsubl2: I don't think his sound chipset is being detected.  If it is it isn't in his dmesg output
[03:24] <jsubl2> ok
[03:24] <brady_> I'm a *buntu and debian noob, but I've used redhat for years
[03:24] <brady_> so I could be way off base ;-)
[03:24] <satafterh> i tried to install redhat one time
[03:25] <satafterh> just once
[03:26] <satafterh> but ive tried to install alot of things, if i cant figure it out in 30 sec's i dont like it
[03:26] <brady_> actually I think fedora 4 is really nice...but I'm testing kubuntu on an old laptop of mine
[03:26] <satafterh> short attention span and all
[03:27] <brady_> yeah...each distro has its own tricks.
[03:28] <satafterh> i have tried about 12 distro's in the last 3 month, trying to get away from the man ya see. There are a few good one i liked, but fell in love with kubuntu. I lover here, thank your ubuntu
[03:31] <brady_> yeah, so far so good with my experience with kubuntu.  
[03:32] <satafterh> i do have a video and audio sync problem with movies though
[03:32] <brady_> anyone out there on the torrent?  I'm getting ~20kBps down, ~2kBps up
[03:32] <satafterh> but other than that i an very happy with it
[03:32] <brady_> what are you using to view the movies?
[03:33] <brady_> or more specifically, what audio output are you using?
[03:33] <brady_> I've had sound lag with arts and sdl
[03:33] <brady_> I output straight to alsa
[03:33] <satafterh> movie synce sproblem is with everythin i use, mplayer, kaffine and so on. 
[03:33] <brady_> but the channel can't be shared
[03:34] <brady_> I've always been a KDE fan, but I've always hated arts
[03:34] <brady_> maybe I just don't know enough about it
[03:35] <Bicchi> on the restricted modules whats the difference between amd64 generic and amd64-k8
[03:35] <strike4ce> Ok how do i get in to change my source list
[03:35] <satafterh> I have tried differant audio out puts, i did find a solution one time but forgot what it was and installed everythin after a hardrive crash. I belive i had to install something but dont really remember
[03:35] <strike4ce> what command?
[03:35] <jsubl2> Bicchi: k8 is for the k8 chipset mobo's
[03:35] <strike4ce> what command do I need to get into source list?
[03:36] <brady_> I use $vi /etc/apt/sources.list , but I'm an old-timer
[03:36] <Bicchi> jsubl2: excuse my ignorance but how do i know if i have a k8 mobo
[03:37] <trs4ece> How can I get sound to work on Gaim while using Kubuntu?  It works in Ubuntu but not in Kubuntu...
[03:37] <jsubl2> Bicchi: manual  or look up specs from hp for instance  mine is an nforce chipset.  said on the box so i use th generic
[03:37] <brady_> w00t...bt is 57kBps down 1kBps up
[03:38] <jsubl2> i will probably leave my seed up all night and kill it in the morning
[03:38] <brady_> we appreciate it ;-)
[03:39] <trs4ece> Does anybody use Gaim?
[03:39] <jsubl2> i am only pumping 55kb
[03:39] <Bicchi> jsubl2: my motherboard model is msi k8n neo2. i guess that would qualify as a k8?
[03:39] <jsubl2> Bicchi: sure sounds like it to me
[03:40] <jsubl2> Bicchi: if you add a kernel ubuntu leaves the old there so you can just boot it if the new one don't work
[03:40] <brady_> I've used gaim before, but usually ignore the audio ;-)
[03:40] <trs4ece> So audio really can work for Gaim in Kubuntu... did you have to change any settings?
[03:40] <Bicchi> jsubl2: that was my next question. i am going to remove the default (generic) kernel off.
[03:40] <brady_> your problem is, more than likely, related to the arts sound subsystem in kde
[03:40] <strike4ce> How do Iget into the sourcelist to change it?
[03:40] <mike_> Doh! Tried to delete the Debian menu in Kubuntu and ended up uninstalling the whole of KDE
[03:41] <jsubl2> Bicchi: i would test the new one first.. always leave a backup
[03:41] <Bicchi> jsubl2: do you know if removing it cleans up my grub list of kernels installed
[03:41] <Bicchi> jsubl2: its working except for the ati drivers
[03:41] <jsubl2> Bicchi: i never remove the old ones.. 
[03:41] <trs4ece> brady_: so should I reset the arts sound system or something?
[03:41] <jsubl2> Bicchi: ati drivers might be a show stopper
[03:41] <strike4ce> jsubl2:  how do iget into the sourcelists?
[03:41] <Bicchi> jsubl2: yeah specially on dual monitors
[03:42] <brady_> trs4ece: hold on a sec...lemme take a look at something
[03:42] <jsubl2> strike4ce: i use vi to.. if you do not know vi try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:42] <brady_> trs4ece: installing gaim right now...give me a couple secs
[03:44] <jsubl2> Bicchi: you know it is really tough getting streaming video going with the 64bit version of kubuntu right?? codecs are 32bit
[03:44] <strike4ce> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[03:44] <strike4ce> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[03:44] <jsubl2> Bicchi: so i run 32 bit on mine
[03:44] <strike4ce> jsubl2: Is that right?
[03:45] <trs4ece> brady_: hey I think I've figured it out, Automatic doesn't seem to do a very good job in Gaim so I set it to Arts and it seems to be working now
[03:45] <trs4ece> brady_: Although, I'm not sure why Automatic wouldn't work..
[03:45] <jsubl2> strike4ce: looks good to me
[03:45] <jsubl2> !sources
[03:45] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:45] <strike4ce> jsubl2: do i need breezy universe?
[03:45] <jsubl2> strike4ce: yes
[03:46] <strike4ce> ok
[03:46] <jsubl2> and multiverse probably least i use multiverse
[03:46] <Bicchi> jsubl2: yeah i know, i get a lot of limitations using  bits but in a way its the future so i run it to contribute to suporting it
[03:46] <trs4ece> brady_: the sounds are also 3 seconds delayed for some reason
[03:46] <brady_> trs4ece: glad to hear you had success!
[03:46] <Bicchi> jsubl2: using  64 bits that is
[03:46] <brady_> trs4ece: yeah...I revert back to my comments about how I don't like arts ;-)
[03:46] <os2mac> ok so how do I maintian my essid and key for my wlan?
[03:46] <jsubl2> Bicchi: yeah i play with it now and then.. but day in and day i use the 32bit
[03:46] <kaand> sound :(
[03:47] <brady_> does gaim have an option to output directly to alsa?
[03:47] <trs4ece> brady_: Do I have any other options for sound?
[03:47] <os2mac> s/maintian/maintain
[03:47] <jsubl2> Bicchi: triple boot.  i have windows requirement for secure client to work
[03:47] <Bicchi> jsubl2: so you have an amd64 but using the 32 kernel
[03:47] <jsubl2> yes
[03:47] <jsubl2> it still damn fast and except for a few things i can tell that big a difference
[03:47] <Bicchi> jsubl2: the only thing i regret is not having macromedia flash working
[03:47] <jsubl2> ripping cd's for one is faster
[03:48] <Bicchi> you mean on the 64 bit
[03:48] <kaand> so is this the place to go for sound help?
[03:48] <jsubl2> Bicchi: yeah and last i checked gplflash2 isn't ready
[03:48] <Bicchi> jsubl2: i know :(
[03:48] <brady_> kaand: I'll give it a shot...no promises ;-)
[03:48] <jsubl2> Bicchi: yeah ripping on 64 bit seems quite a bit faster.. have not noticed anything else
[03:49] <Bicchi> jsubl2: but by the time its ready i bet macromedia shows up with something. @#$@ 
[03:49] <kaand> thanks
[03:49] <kaand> so i've tried several different things
[03:49] <kaand> including http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639
[03:49] <Bicchi> jsubl2: video en/de coding is also faster
[03:49] <kaand> and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple
[03:49] <kaand> but ever since going to breezy, i haven't had sound
[03:50] <kaand> none at all
[03:50] <jsubl2> Bicchi: i usually just watch videos offof cnn.  but i really like for that to work
[03:50] <trs4ece> brady_: was your question about alsa directed to me?
[03:50] <Bicchi> jsubl2: brb time to crash X
[03:50] <duder> anyone know how to make firefox the default browser in kubuntu?
[03:50] <kaand> but it works fine in knoppix, though
[03:50] <duder> no sound for me either kaand
[03:50] <duder> :(
[03:51] <kaand> yeah, it is teh suck
[03:51] <jsubl2> kaand: lspci | grep -i audio in a terminal window
[03:52] <kaand> been there
[03:52] <brady_> trs4ece: yeah...can gaim output to alsa?
[03:52] <kaand> it detects the same sound card knoppix did
[03:52] <strike4ce> Do I need to change this?
[03:52] <strike4ce> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy mai$
[03:52] <jsubl2> kaand: what is it
[03:52] <strike4ce> jsubl2: does that need changed?
[03:52] <strike4ce> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy mai$
[03:52] <kaand> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:52] <trs4ece> brady_: I've got console beep, automatic, esd, arts and command
[03:52] <jsubl2> strike4ce: put a # in front of it
[03:53] <Foodcoman> Anyone have an automount USB Key problem with Breezy?
[03:53] <jsubl2> kaand: have you tried alsamixer that card should work out of the box.. speakers turned on etc..
[03:53] <strike4ce> ok why doesnt it say 5.10?
[03:53] <kaand> i've tried messing around with it
[03:53] <jsubl2> strike4ce: wrong cd
[03:53] <strike4ce> how do i leave do ineed to save it?
[03:53] <kaand>  it just worked when I was in knoppix 5 minutes ago
[03:54] <kaand> what do you recommend I do in alsamixer?
[03:54] <strike4ce> so it should be 5.10 what about hoary?
[03:54] <jsubl2> kaand: with alsamixer you have to make sure you don't have any MM at the bottom  if you do hit m and up arrow to raise the volume
[03:55] <jsubl2> kaand: start the app and you will see what i mean.. run in terminal window konsole
[03:56] <kaand> yeah, i've messed around with this before
[03:56] <jsubl2> kaand: and if alsamixer comes up without complaining that is a very good sign
[03:56] <kaand> line jack, cd, mic phone and aux were off and muted
[03:56] <jsubl2> fine
[03:56] <kaand> everything else looks dandy
[03:56] <jsubl2> what kinda file you playing ogg i hope
[03:56] <jsubl2> mp3 support must be added after installation
[03:57] <kaand> well I usually try the 'sound test' thing in the system settings
[03:57] <jsubl2> nothing tho
[03:57] <kaand> but amarok and xine don't have sound either
[03:57] <kaand> nope
[03:57] <jsubl2> ogg files
[03:58] <kaand> i don't even think I have any ogg files laying around
[03:58] <jsubl2> mp3 support must be added after installation
[03:58] <jsubl2> manually
[03:58] <kaand> i believe i did that
[03:58] <strike4ce> Is this what I need to paste in the sourcelist exactly how it reads? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 
[03:58] <strike4ce> jsubl2: ?
[03:58] <trs4ece> brady_: any thoughts?  I'm going to have to leave in about 5 min
[03:58] <kaand> used easyubuntu, just the multimedia stuff
[03:59] <trs4ece> what's easyubuntu?
[03:59] <jsubl2> strike4ce: yeah that looks like what i use... i copied mine from ubotu link
[03:59] <kaand> it plays, mpg and wmv and avi fine now (except for the sound :( )
[03:59] <strike4ce> even the words example?
[03:59] <jsubl2> strike4ce: if you are in usa you can add us. infront of the archive word
[03:59] <IRCMonkey_> greetings
[03:59] <IRCMonkey_> who knows of a good freeware iso burner for XP?
[03:59] <jsubl2> strike4ce: not "us.archive"
[04:00] <IRCMonkey_> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[04:00] <IRCMonkey_> I guess this is as good as any
[04:00] <jsubl2> strike4ce: not/note
[04:00] <kaand> search the forums, it's this little program someone put together that does a bunch of the things need to get ubuntu 'desktop ready'
[04:00] <trs4ece> awesome, I'll have to try that out
[04:00] <stodge> Hey folks is this the multiverse repositor address?           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[04:00] <stodge> (repositorY)
[04:01] <strike4ce> jsubl2: even the #example goes in or do I need to add somethingelse?
[04:02] <jsubl2> strike4ce: #example don't matter the # comments it out so it is not used
[04:02] <kaand> ok, dling an ogg now
[04:03] <jsubl2> strike4ce: but put in the other ones with a # sign.. you may want to uncomment the deb-src ones depending on what you are doing
[04:04] <jsubl2> kaand: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:04] <kaand> i know about that stuff, dealt with it in hoary and warty
[04:04] <jsubl2> good
[04:04] <kaand> this is the first time i've had NO sound though
[04:05] <kaand> not even the startup sound or anything
[04:05] <jsubl2> kaand: i generally set my kde sound to use alsa
[04:05] <Kite-> what are the steps to upgrade to 5.10 if im using 5.04 now?
[04:05] <jsubl2> !breezyupgrade
[04:05] <ubotu> breezyupgrade is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:05] <apokryphos> Kite-: /topic
[04:06] <kaand> i did that too
[04:06] <kaand> i followed this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple
[04:07] <jsubl2> kaand: u using gnome
[04:07] <kaand> nope
[04:07] <kaand> midway through hoary, i switched
[04:08] <kaand> fresh kubuntu install now
[04:08] <jsubl2> the esd stuff is all for gnome
[04:08] <kaand> hrm
[04:09] <kaand> well i guess it was useful for switching back then and was the only thing I could find for now
[04:09] <IRCMonkey_> Do I want to create a disk image or record an iso file after I have downloaded the 5.10 .iso file via BT?
[04:10] <kaand> could anything in my home folder be messing this up? I non destructively rsynced a backup of my hoary home into here
[04:10] <IRCMonkey_> uh, hold on I think I just figured it out
[04:10] <IRCMonkey_> I record an .iso, and then when I want to use it I make a disc image?
[04:12] <jsubl2> kaand: i would not think so.
[04:13] <IRCMonkey_> Incidentally, I am burning an .iso for a live cd to do a trial run. Can I then install from the live cd?
[04:13] <kaand> dang
[04:14] <kaand> so an ogg didn't work either
[04:14] <kaand> is there anything else I can try?
[04:14] <jsubl2> kaand: dmesg | grep intel8x0
[04:14] <kaand> [4294708.004000]  intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49981 usecs
[04:14] <kaand> [4294708.004000]  intel8x0: clocking to 48000
[04:15] <jsubl2> sudo lsmod|grep intel
[04:15] <jsubl2> should give 4 or 5 lines of snd_ stuff
[04:15] <kaand> snd_intel8x0           30144  3
[04:15] <kaand> snd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_intel8x0
[04:15] <kaand> snd_pcm                78344  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[04:15] <kaand> snd                    48644  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[04:15] <kaand> snd_page_alloc         10120  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
[04:15] <kaand> intel_agp              21276  1
[04:15] <kaand> agpgart                32328  3 drm,intel_agp
[04:16] <jsubl2> simple yes would have been more apropriate
[04:16] <kaand> :D
[04:16] <jsubl2> then it is working and something simple is wrong.. speakers turned off kde misconfigured etc.
[04:17] <jsubl2> my kde sound is left at autodetect.. 
[04:17] <kaand> i tried that and setting it to alsa
[04:17] <apokryphos> kaand: please read the freakin' topic; don't paste in here, use a pastebin service.
[04:18] <kaand> ok
[04:18] <jsubl2> kaand: i am out of ideas sorry.. i think it should be really close to workin
[04:18] <strike4ce> Ok how the hell do I change the source list and save it?
[04:19] <kaand> can you think of another place i can look for help?
[04:19] <apokryphos> strike4ce: apt sources, you mean?
[04:19] <IRCMonkey_> hmm, let
[04:19] <strike4ce> yea I guess
[04:19] <IRCMonkey_> 's see if someone has a reply for this question
[04:20] <strike4ce> where I need to change hoary as breezy
[04:20] <apokryphos> !tell strike4ce about breezyupgrade
[04:20] <IRCMonkey_> How do I boot from the .iso live cd in XP home?
[04:20] <jsubl2> kaand: did you try any of the stuff on the wiki
[04:20] <apokryphos> !tell IRCMonkey_ about install
[04:20] <kaand> i mostly searched the forums
[04:20] <kaand> like what?
[04:20] <lwells> hi all
[04:20] <IRCMonkey_> thank you
[04:20] <jsubl2> kaand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles
[04:20] <lwells> i tried to install Breezy and i think it did not finish
[04:21] <apokryphos> :/
[04:21] <kaand> ah, ok
[04:21] <jsubl2> lwells: well it installs the  base stuff.  reboots.  then finishes installing and lastly brings up a log in screen..
[04:21] <kaand> thanks, i'll look at these and give them a try
[04:21] <jsubl2> kaand: good luck
[04:22] <lwells> so i should just reboot?
[04:22] <strike4ce> apokryphos: that applies to the kynaptic manager as well?  cuz it i different?
[04:22] <jsubl2> what is on the screen
[04:22] <lwells> i installed it from terminal
[04:23] <apokryphos> strike4ce: just use the apt method; edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <jsubl2> no idea
[04:23] <lwells> and it says "failed to fetch...linux-kernal-header
[04:24] <apokryphos> lwells: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:24] <kaand> it looks like 'lspnp' isn't working, it gives a '/proc/bus/pnp not available' message, could that affect things?
[04:25] <kaand> i think i remember the plug and play startup line not getting an ok like all the other lines during startup
[04:25] <lwells> Well i am trying that again
[04:28] <orugo> hey
[04:28] <orugo> i have rpoblems with soun
[04:29] <orugo> what can i do?
[04:30] <Octane> where do I run guidance from
[04:30] <Octane> i just installed it but cant find it
[04:30] <strike4ce> apokryphos: Would it be easier just to uninstall kubuntu and burn the new 5.10 cd and install fresh?
[04:30] <apokryphos> strike4ce: nope
[04:31] <strike4ce> apokryphos: well I've been doing this all day and I still havent figured it out
[04:31] <orugo> oh
[04:31] <orugo> 5.10
[04:31] <orugo> i want to ask about that
[04:31] <orugo> ahahahah
[04:31] <orugo> i want to UPDATE
[04:31] <apokryphos> strike4ce: it shouldn't take more than 2 minutes to set in place the things to do
[04:31] <orugo> i mean no cd shit installing
[04:32] <strike4ce> apokryphos: hwo do i get torrent
[04:32] <navyn> hey can anybody tell me what sane-backends are?
[04:32] <strike4ce> how?
[04:32] <lwells> I love updating right from the terminal
[04:32] <orugo> can i install using ATP?
[04:32] <apokryphos> strike4ce: if you've already got hoary, then it's pretty self-defeating doing a full reinstall
[04:32] <orugo> install 5.10
[04:32] <Octane> navyn: sane is scanner libs
[04:32] <apokryphos> !tell orugo about breezyupgrade
[04:32] <navyn> yeah, but what are backends?
[04:32] <orugo> but i have 5.04
[04:32] <orugo> i dont have the breezyupgrade
[04:32] <strike4ce> ok my top line in source list that wont be seen right?
[04:32] <kaand> i tried the dist-upgrade but it messed things up
[04:33] <kaand> i couldn't run vim from the cli
[04:33] <_brady> backends are the scanner drivers
[04:33] <navyn> kubuntu detects my scanner but it won't work with SANE
[04:33] <apokryphos> orugo: check the /msg you got from ubotu
[04:33] <strike4ce> Also it keeps giving me this cdrom crap like it cant find it?
[04:33] <orugo> yes
[04:33] <orugo> ok
[04:33] <kaand> so it kinda forced me to to a fresh install :(
[04:33] <Octane> navyn: check the sane website to see if your scanner is supported
[04:33] <orugo> tks!
[04:33] <apokryphos> strike4ce: what?
[04:34] <apokryphos> strike4ce: it's not hard. Edit your sources.list file, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:34] <lwells> apok, you might need to run them twice if there is a problem
[04:34] <orugo> apokryphos: first i have to swith to the breezy version and then to the official 5.10?
[04:34] <strike4ce> apokryphos:   here read:  W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages
[04:34] <apokryphos> lwells: there shouldn't be any
[04:35] <apokryphos> orugo: breezy *is* 5.10
[04:35] <apokryphos> strike4ce: you evidently didn't alter the sources.list file accordingly
[04:35] <lwells> i had some, it timed up on the upgrade, but it is working now
[04:35] <navyn> they said it is in sane-backends
[04:35] <orugo> yes there's a NEW version!!!!!!!!
[04:35] <apokryphos> strike4ce: use the one provided on the wiki link I sent you
[04:35] <orugo> 5.10 official
[04:35] <apokryphos> indeed :)
[04:35] <orugo> check www.kubuntu.org
[04:35] <duder> how do I get the regular games that usually comes with an OS?
[04:36] <orugo> (am i the first that saw that?)
[04:36] <Ravensky> hey, which repo can I get the MS core fonts in?
[04:36] <apokryphos> orugo: obviously not :). Check the /topic
[04:36] <orugo> ahahahahah
[04:36] <strike4ce> apokryphos: I dont have synaptic I have kynaptic
[04:36] <orugo> :P
[04:36] <orugo> well
[04:36] <navyn> i did a google search on the scanner model, and I have a page called scanner.h that has my scanner drivers listed in it, but i don't know what to do with that information
[04:36] <orugo> tks a lot
[04:36] <orugo> hey
[04:36] <kaand> is there a reason kubuntu-desktop is being kept back on apt-get upgrade? It's been like that since RC1
[04:36] <orugo> when i upgrade
[04:36] <orugo> i will lost my configS?
[04:36] <orugo> plz no
[04:36] <orugo> ahah
[04:36] <apokryphos> !enter
[04:36] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:36] <apokryphos> strike4ce: I'm not telling you to use synaptic
[04:36] <orugo> sorry
[04:37] <apokryphos> strike4ce: it tells you how to upgrade by just using apt and editing the file
[04:38] <apokryphos> kaand: you should be doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:38] <navyn> whenever I do lsusb it shows there too
[04:38] <kaand> from the RC1?
[04:38] <kaand> i didn't know I had to do that from the release candidate
[04:38] <duder> anyone know how to make firefox the default browser?
[04:39] <apokryphos> kaand: sure; why not?
[04:39] <orugo> aporyphos: hey i have to upgrade ALL the packages from synaptic? they're a lot
[04:39] <apokryphos> duder: systemsettings -> user account -> default applications
[04:39] <Ravensky> err...umm...when I installed phpbb and wordpress through Adept, where'd it put them?
[04:39] <duder> thank u
[04:39] <apokryphos> orugo: if you want breezy, yes.
[04:39] <kaand> i was already at breezy, i though the regular upgrades would keep me
[04:40] <navyn> somebody told me a cat command, and it shows in that too
[04:40] <apokryphos> kaand: nope; see man apt-get  for the difference
[04:41] <`Nomad> ravensky:  At teh very worst, to find the folders do an "sudo updatedb"  and then an "slocate ordpress"  for example :)
[04:41] <kaand> it would be awesome if this fixes my sound but it doesn't seem to be upgrading anything sound related :(
[04:41] <Ravensky> I dont get why ubuntu uses sudo instead of just using the root user. Easier that way?
[04:42] <orugo> apokryphos, tks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:42] <apokryphos> Ravensky: superior model
[04:42] <orugo> you really helped me
[04:42] <orugo> tks!
[04:42] <duder> anyone know how to get games like minesweeper?
[04:42] <apokryphos> np =)
[04:43] <orugo> hey
[04:43] <strike4ce> apokryphos: i putting that exact command for apt and its not working
[04:43] <orugo> is breezy better than 5.04?
[04:43] <apokryphos> strike4ce: are you sure you altered your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly?
[04:44] <`Nomad> .06 better
[04:44] <`Nomad> :)
[04:44] <apokryphos> orugo: it's newer, faster, has more features etc etc
[04:44] <lwells> need to use sudo
[04:44] <strike4ce> apokryphos: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <orugo> ok
[04:44] <orugo> i'll install it
[04:44] <apokryphos> strike4ce: well, only if you *have* gedit, but sure...
[04:44] <orugo> (455 mb!!)
[04:44] <orugo> haha
[04:44] <strike4ce> what If I dont?
[04:44] <strike4ce> then what?
[04:44] <jsubl2> kate
[04:45] <duder> anyone know how to get games like minesweeper?
[04:45] <apokryphos> strike4ce: use the instructions for kde
[04:45] <apokryphos> strike4ce: you might need to refresh the wiki page; I just added it in
[04:45] <orugo> hey
[04:45] <orugo> i have problems with my sound
[04:45] <orugo> what should i do
[04:45] <duder> me to orugo
[04:46] <kaand> man, sound is a pretty big problem this release
[04:46] <orugo> :(
[04:46] <orugo> what bout breezy?
[04:46] <Octane> god damn kubuntu 5.10 is amazing
[04:46] <orugo> aahahaa
[04:46] <orugo> really?
[04:46] <orugo> oh
[04:47] <orugo> ill download it now
[04:47] <orugo> haha
[04:47] <orugo> !!
[04:47] <ubotu> somebody said ! was what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[04:47] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[04:47] <kaand> i didn't until i did the fresh breezy install
[04:47] <MPC> Octane: in what way?
[04:47] <kaand> worked ok in hoary/warty
[04:47] <strike4ce> apo
[04:47] <Octane> MPC: just is :)
[04:47] <MPC> like the sun comin' up, eh?
[04:48] <strike4ce> apokryphos:  ok sorry lol now how do i see if it took the changes?
[04:48] <apokryphos> strike4ce: if the file is altered, and you saved it, then they're there :)
[04:48] <strike4ce> ok
[04:48] <_douglas> What package do I install so that kde automatically picks up my pendrive? Right now it says error loading media://sda1 or something.???
[04:49] <kaand> that's because it actually loads it with the name of the device now
[04:49] <kaand> at least for me
[04:49] <_douglas> oh, so how do I make it work?
[04:50] <kaand> before is was media://sda1 but now it's media://CARBON
[04:50] <kaand> or whatever
[04:50] <_douglas> I can mount it manually with sda1 though.
[04:50] <strike4ce> apo
[04:50] <kaand> oh
[04:50] <strike4ce> apokryphos: How do i get torrent?
[04:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: why do you want it? :P
[04:51] <kaand> weird, it worked fine apart from that error message for me
[04:51] <`Nomad> !imap
[04:51] <ubotu> `Nomad: I give up, what is it?
[04:51] <`Nomad> :(
[04:51] <strike4ce> apokryphos: its faster than apt-get right?
[04:51] <_douglas> It used to work fine for me until I reinstalled with the release candidate disc.
[04:51] <_douglas> perhaps I'll do a dist-upgrade and see if it help.
[04:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: if the server stayed bogged down.. yeah, prolly
[04:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: /topic
[04:51] <_douglas> although I did one last night though.
[04:52] <strike4ce> apokryphos: I finally got apt get going thanx for your patience and putting up with my dumbass, its was so easy
[04:52] <apokryphos> =)
[04:53] <apokryphos> if anyone wants the kubuntu breezy i386 iso: http://giannaros.org/ubuntu/ISOs/Breezy/
[04:54] <_brady> someone mentioned a problem earlier with delayed sound...I just realized it's happening to me too. Noticed it with the flash player 
[04:54] <strike4ce> apokryphos: I have a intel pentium m shouldnt it be i686?
[04:55] <apokryphos> there is no i686 iso
[04:55] <apokryphos> but apt doesn't use the ISOs of course
[04:56] <strike4ce> apt get is slow
[04:56] <apokryphos> indeed
[04:56] <strike4ce> lol
[04:56] <apokryphos> high-traffic
[04:56] <strike4ce> how many hours you think it will take?
[04:57] <apokryphos> no idea; the servers are really bogged down because of the publicity
[04:57] <strike4ce> apo
[04:57] <apokryphos> with the release n' all
[04:57] <strike4ce> apokryphos: you think it would be alright for me to leave it?
[04:57] <strike4ce> alnight
[04:57] <apokryphos> sure
[04:57] <_brady> are you upgrading via apt?
[04:57] <apokryphos> but if you have a fast server you could just wait for some time and then it would do it all in one go
[04:58] <MEtaLpREs> man the servers really are slow, taking a few mins just to get small libs updates
[04:58] <apokryphos> yup
[04:58] <strike4ce> apokryphos: im on broadband
[04:59] <MEtaLpREs> they should have sprung for more bandwidth before the release, they must have known they were going to get hit hard like this
[04:59] <strike4ce> _brady: im using apt
[04:59] <strike4ce> Damn how popular is this?
[04:59] <apokryphos> very :)
[05:00] <apokryphos> especially after the /.
[05:00] <strike4ce> Why isnt it on TV?
[05:00] <MEtaLpREs> lucky for them bittorrent is around to spread the iso's or they would be in real trouble right now
[05:00] <apokryphos> yup
[05:00] <omni_lonnie> so who has successfully updated?
[05:01] <omni_lonnie> everyone here? 
[05:01] <MEtaLpREs> i have
[05:01] <omni_lonnie> I'm still in mid apt-get... :(
[05:01] <strike4ce> not yet
[05:01] <apokryphos> a few months ago, yes :)
[05:01] <MEtaLpREs> but i only went from the RC to final
[05:01] <strike4ce> what number?  LOL
[05:02] <omni_lonnie> heh!
[05:02] <strike4ce> im still on get 9
[05:02] <strike4ce> lol
[05:02] <apokryphos> ouch!
[05:02] <strike4ce> Says 4 hrs though
[05:03] <strike4ce> must be bogged down bad in my area
[05:03] <apokryphos> in general it is, yup
[05:03] <apokryphos> !mirrors
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:03] <apokryphos> gotta wake up in 4 hours :/
[05:03] <strike4ce> lol
[05:04] <omni_lonnie> I've apt-getting for about 6-7 hours and I still have 2-3 to go...  but it'll be worthi it!
[05:04] <strike4ce> better be
[05:04] <strike4ce> open office is big!
[05:05] <omni_lonnie> well I'm a PHP dev and it's worth it jsut to have a "native" PHP 5 :)
[05:06] <_brady> current bt stats: 53 kBps down 3 kBps
[05:07] <_brady> 3 kBps up*
[05:08] <crimsun> duder: back. Have you resolved your sound issue?
[05:14] <zojak> what is better for a linux noob, kde or gnome?
[05:14] <zojak> coming from windows
[05:14] <jbeasley> kde
[05:15] <crimsun> zojak: either. Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu are reasonable.
[05:16] <claydoh> If I enable root password, how do I undo it?
[05:17] <jbeasley> undo?
[05:17] <claydoh> yes, get rid of it
[05:18] <jbeasley> you can't really get rid of it.  The default is a random password.
[05:18] <jbeasley> do you want to change it?
[05:18] <claydoh> no
[05:19] <claydoh> I can do that, just thought there might be a way to go back to rootless sudo
[05:19] <claydoh> I can always set the password to something I will easily forget :)
[05:28] <_john> i am trying to setup a SMB share as a mount point, and i was wondering what to type in the dialouge, as it isnt letting me browse
[05:29] <Ravensky> where's the cgi-bin for Apache2?
[05:34] <_john> figured it out
[05:34] <_john> installed smbfs and used other stuff
[05:35] <NeoFax12> Having a problem with cups.  It will not print.
[05:35] <NeoFax12> I get an error about opening /dev/lp0
[05:36] <NeoFax12> The ownership is root:lp, but I think it should be lpadmin for group
[05:36] <NeoFax12> BTW I am using Kubuntu Breezy
[05:43] <woddf2> Haldo
[05:43] <woddf2> How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?
[05:44] <NeoFax12> woddf2: What version of kubuntu?
[05:44] <woddf2> I'm on 5.10.
[05:44] <NeoFax12> apt-get install sndconfig
[05:45] <NeoFax12> Also, you may want to check lsmod and lshw
[05:46] <woddf2> apt-get said it couldn't find sndconfig.
[05:48] <NeoFax12> woddf2: Guess they removed sndconfig
[05:48] <`Nomad> !amarok
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[05:49] <NeoFax12> Try using lshw to find out if linux is recognizing the card and then use lsmod to see if the drivers are loaded
[05:51] <lwells> i updated to Breezy, how do I know if it worked
[05:54] <lwells> How can I tell if i am running on Breezy?
[05:56] <BlankB> cat /etc/issue is always an easy way.
[05:56] <lwells> yep thanks
[05:57] <lwells> Breezy Badger
[05:58] <lwells> I do not see the update tool anymore
[05:59] <lwells> what was the name of that tool under KDE, i cannot remember
[06:00] <korkster> hello all :)
[06:00] <lwells> kpakage?
[06:00] <NeoFax12> lwells: Adept is the default update tool for kubuntu now
[06:01] <lwells> Where is that ?
[06:01] <NeoFax12> BTW, why is it the group rights for lp[0-9]  is lp instead of lpadmin which cups needs?
[06:01] <NeoFax12> lwells: Alt+F2 then type in adept
[06:02] <lwells> Said it could not find the command
[06:03] <NeoFax12> OK, then in a konsole do apt-get update && apt-get install adept
[06:04] <korkster> NeoFax12 Does adept not get installed automatically when you upgrade?
[06:05] <NeoFax12> I am not sure about that, as I installed Kubuntu rc1 and upgraded from that and it came default
[06:05] <cddesjar> korkster: no
[06:05] <NeoFax12> If you want adept just do the same thing as I said to lwells
[06:05] <lwells> Maybe I did not do the install correctly?
[06:05] <cddesjar> synaptic is much better than adept
[06:05] <korkster> yah installed Hoary clean, did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and Im currently doing a dist-upgrade
[06:06] <korkster> to Breezy that is
[06:06] <korkster> After doing the dist upgrade, do I need to do anything else?
[06:06] <korkster> like do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop again?
[06:07] <korkster> I'd think I wouldnt
[06:08] <NeoFax12> korkster: No, as it matches the debs you currently have on your system with replacements in the new apt repos
[06:08] <cddesjar> korkster: nope
[06:08] <MarcC> can anyone show me to a working sources.list for breezy kub/ub?
[06:08] <cddesjar> !sources
[06:08] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:09] <MarcC> sank you
[06:09] <cddesjar> np
[06:10] <lwells> synaptic was not installed either
[06:11] <cddesjar> synaptic wouldn't be
[06:11] <cddesjar> kynpatic would
[06:11] <cddesjar> apt-get remove kynaptic --purge
[06:11] <cddesjar> apt-get install synaptic 
[06:11] <cddesjar> :)
[06:11] <cddesjar> i think kynaptic sucks
[06:11] <nutate> So i just moved here over a week from NY to Santa Monica, for a change of scene am job hunting so am free during the day and night. I do have some friends out here but they are all coupled up and i would like to have someone around to stop making me the third wheel. but i also would like to have a lil fun and see what happens. Usually the guys i date have that rocker or rockabilly look, a little edgy, don't like khaki's or suits! Am looking for 
[06:12] <nutate> 
[06:12] <nutate>  I was raised between Dublin and NY and went to university in London, UK. so my accent is all mixed up. So i am admitting i am lonely not sure how to go about meeting new friends, its weird. so am hoping to meet some intelligent, fun, witty, dry sense of humour people, who would like to go for a drink, to an art gallery, to the gym, the beach or go see some bands, my background is working in music. am a total music nut and usually go see bands 2
[06:12] <nutate> 
[06:12] <nutate> So i just moved here over a week from NY to Santa Monica, for a change of scene am job hunting so am free during the day and night. I do have some friends out here but they are all coupled up and i would like to have someone around to stop making me the third wheel. but i also would like to have a lil fun and see what happens. Usually the guys i date have that rocker or rockabilly look, a little edgy, don't like khaki's or suits! Am looking for 
[06:12] <nutate> 
[06:12] <nutate>  I was raised between Dublin and NY and went to university in London, UK. so my accent is all mixed up. So i am admitting i am lonely not sure how to go about meeting new friends, its weird. so am hoping to meet some intelligent, fun, witty, dry sense of humour people, who would like to go for a drink, to an art gallery, to the gym, the beach or go see some bands, my background is working in music. am a total music nut and usually go see bands 2
[06:12] <nutate> 
[06:12] <nutate> son of a sorry
[06:12] <nutate> so much for the live cd middle click on a thinkpad
[06:13] <tshah> anyway, I perfer installing via konsole
[06:13] <cddesjar> i do too tshah 
[06:13] <cddesjar> apt-cache search
[06:13] <cddesjar> works just as good as adept search or synaptic search
[06:14] <tshah> sometimes the installer needs your attention and kynapitic can ignore it (perfect example is installing bugzilla), another reason to use konsole
[06:15] <cddesjar> yeah that's a ubuntu modification though...if you install synaptic in debian you still get to interact with the console
[06:16] <korkster> thanks for your help...so seemingly, when the dist-upgrade finishes everything sshould just work as per usual then?
[06:17] <korkster> I probably should reboot I suppose :)
[06:17] <tshah> From personal experiance, you could theoridically just end your session
[06:17] <cddesjar> no you should need to reboot
[06:17] <cddesjar> maybe refresh X
[06:18] <cddesjar> alt + backspace
[06:18] <cddesjar> but if you want to boot into a new kernel, you'll need to reboot
[06:19] <korkster> refresh X??
[06:19] <duder> how do I download something once I have found it using apt-cachce search?
[06:19] <Kevman> Can anyone tell me how to mount a samba share automatically?
[06:20] <Kevman> There are instructions on the wiki, but the share has no logon or password.
[06:20] <duder> can someone please tell me how do I download something once I have found it using apt-cachce search?
[06:21] <Kevman> duder, sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:22] <duder> thanks kevman
[06:23] <duder> kevman I have heard many people talk about synaptic searching.. do u know how to do that?
[06:24] <cddesjar> there's a search field
[06:25] <Kevman> ? "sudo synaptic" will start synaptic. Then have fun.
[06:25] <cddesjar> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[06:25] <duder> ahha! thanks man ;)
[06:25] <duder> now if I can get my sound working I will be good to go!
[06:25] <cddesjar> to remove:  sudo apt-get remove <packagename> --purge
[06:26] <aliveuser> i'm having problems making my cd eject?
[06:26] <cddesjar> sudo apt-get install alsa
[06:26] <cddesjar> sudo eject
[06:26] <aliveuser> but
[06:26] <aliveuser> i want to fix the desktop opcion
[06:26] <aliveuser> option
[06:26] <satafterh> is there a mirir for the dvd iso
[06:26] <cddesjar> what's your error
[06:26] <satafterh> mirror
[06:26] <cddesjar> yup
[06:26] <duder> so what does sudo stand for?
[06:26] <cddesjar> go to www.kubuntu.org
[06:26] <cddesjar> and go under the d/l tab
[06:27] <tshah> "sudo" is like "do this like an admin"
[06:28] <duder> thanks tshah
[06:28] <satafterh> there is only one link for the dvd iso and torrent is corrupt
[06:28] <aliveuser> when i exec "sudo eject", cdrom dev is busy
[06:29] <aliveuser> but i'm not using it
[06:29] <aliveuser> give me a minute
[06:30] <tshah> satafterh, which kind of computer are you using?
[06:30] <nutate> duder: super user do
[06:30] <tshah> AMD64, regular Intel, Mac?
[06:30] <korkster> I just noticed that while it was unpacking Im getting alot of perl exceptions/probs regarding locale
[06:30] <korkster> is this normal?
[06:30] <satafterh> amd 2600 clone
[06:31] <korkster> says that its "falling back to standard locale "C"
[06:33] <frank23> korkster: I got those too
[06:33] <SillyCone> does anybody know what warnings like "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" mean?
[06:33] <frank23> korkster: I don't think they mean anything
[06:33] <korkster> ahh ok thanks frank23
[06:34] <tshah> satafterh, I can't seem to find any other mirrors. for the dvd, sorry
[06:35] <satafterh> tshah - thanks for trying
[06:38] <root> hi there
[06:46] <blackflag> Hello all :-)
[06:46] <judax> Hey
[06:47] <blackflag> Im looking around directory services  under Linux
[06:47] <blackflag> I want a centralised Auth in a lan
[06:47] <blackflag> something like ADS under M$
[06:48] <blackflag> is there something available for kubuntu and debian?
[06:48] <crimsun> look for an openldap*
[06:48] <blackflag> Yes I had a look
[06:48] <blackflag> but but I dont know
[06:49] <eracerbit> anyone elses kicker totally non functional
[06:49] <blackflag> how I tell my ubuntu client
[06:49] <blackflag> to auth against via ldap on a debian server
[06:49] <korkster> Rebooted...everything seems just fine
[06:49] <blackflag> maybe there is a complete solution I didnt found
[06:50] <ali_> What plug-in do I need to play MP3's?
[06:50] <korkster> except on one of my monitors, it says "Testing Unstable"
[06:50] <korkster> not sure what thats all about
[06:51] <blackflag> you know what I mean?
[06:51] <blackflag> the access to thge client should be managed by the ldap server
[06:52] <BlankB> So after doing a instal with the iso how many megs of updates are there (if any) to apt-get update?
[06:52] <blackflag> but cant find a useful discription todo so
[06:54] <judax> ali_: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:57] <judax> BlankB: it is not large (relative I know), I don't know the exact MB, but I use dsl so...
[06:58] <BlankB> well here I go....backup then upgrade time. 8)
[06:59] <blackflag> you know: asingle sign on machine for my linux clients
[07:00] <duder> when I type sudo synaptic in my terminal it says command not found... is this not the right command?
[07:02] <ubuntu> Hello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...
[07:03] <ubuntu> Anyone here?
[07:05] <LaserLine> Hello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...
[07:06] <kkathman> hi There ubuntu :)
[07:06] <kkathman> LaserLine: I think there is, because it was updated during my upgrade
[07:06] <kkathman> and it came from one of the basic repos
[07:07] <kkathman> Now I cant validate that per se
[07:07] <LaserLine> kkathman I can't find it...
[07:07] <kkathman> unless I have a site that uses Java
[07:09] <kkathman> LaserLine: did you try downloading it from Sun?
[07:11] <LaserLine> nope, thought there will be an easy way :-)
[07:12] <kkathman> Yah, I remember installing that SDK, and it was very much of an ordeal
[07:13] <satafterh> http://counter.li.org/
[07:27] <crimsun> kkathman: icon text vs. property text?
[07:28] <kkathman> crimsun: Yes, the text underneath the icon usually is the same as the Property text..and the remote icons are not
[07:28] <crimsun> maybe a cache sync issue?
[07:29] <crimsun> (I use GNOME)
[07:29] <kkathman> ahh ok
[07:29] <kkathman> nm
[07:30] <cyne> anyone know good tools for slicing images in web development ?
[07:32] <kkathman> Hmm unusual now that I cannot delete a remote share icon either...very odd
[07:34] <cyne> anyone know good tools for slicing images in web development ?
[07:35] <kkathman> cyne: about the only decent graphic tool I know in the linux world is GIMP
[07:35] <cyne> kkathman: sure but i don't see any slicing tools like in photoshop
[07:36] <kkathman> cyne: Agreed...its why I still keep my win box around...to use photoshop
[07:37] <cyne> bugger that, i use vmware :)
[07:37] <cyne> spose i should just install it , heh :)
[07:37] <cyne> ( photoshop )
[07:37] <kkathman> I tried using that and use wine and that crossover thing...none worked with any kind of reliability or level of detail
[07:38] <cyne> vmware works fine
[07:38] <kkathman> so I just use my win box for that
[07:38] <cyne> very reliable
[07:38] <kkathman> you've used it with photoshop?
[07:38] <cyne> well, no, but i've thrown everything else at it
[07:38] <cyne> i will let you know i'm going to install it now
[07:38] <hellion> hello.   im looking for help configuring  either kaffeine or vlan or something for NSV streams
[07:39] <kkathman> yah...I did too, and photoshop runs, but the detail to work on a drawing just isnt there under an emulator
[07:39] <cyne> kkathman: then use it full screen
[07:39] <kkathman> cyne I did.. I guess I just prefer the native :)
[07:39] <kkathman> I mean if you spend the $700 for the package, why not run it as it was meant :)
[07:40] <cyne> indeed
[07:40] <hellion> can anyone help configuring to receiving NSV streams?
[07:41] <kkathman> I'd just like to know why the heck I cant delete my share icons from my desktop in breezy!
[07:45] <satafterh> hope 10million in the ubuntu fund is enough to keep it around for along timee
[07:52] <Kevman> How can I get transperancies to work in Kubuntu?
[07:57] <lwells> what is the website to past problems into the discussion??
[07:59] <BlankB> pasetbin.com is one.
[07:59] <BlankB> oops..pastebin.com
[08:01] <lwells> thanks
[08:02] <lwells> I am having this problem trying to update to Breezy http://pastebin.com/393179
[08:03] <lwells> I am wondering if i need to fix the sources.list file
[08:05] <lwells> This is what i have in the sources.list file now http://pastebin.com/393181
[08:06] <BlankB> line 1 you still have hoary cd. but that shouldnt be too big of a problem.
[08:07] <lwells> Yea , i was wondering that too, but no big deal right?
[08:07] <lwells> Am I missing a line?
[08:09] <BlankB> Here is a minimalist one. I just took what was in mine after a fresh install of breezy and removed all the lines that were commented out. http://pastebin.com/393184
[08:09] <BlankB> Since its so small it may help you debug.
[08:10] <lwells> Thanks let me try that
[08:14] <lwells> Now I am getting a GPG error
[08:15] <BlankB> put that on the pastebin. 
[08:15] <lwells> ok
[08:16] <lwells> http://pastebin.com/393187
[08:17] <BlankB> thats odd...was that while running apt-get update
[08:18] <lwells> no, the apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:18] <BlankB> but apt-get update worked just fine?
[08:19] <lwells> sorry , yes the update process is where it happened
[08:21] <lwells> funny,now i screwed up my laptop
[08:21] <aftertaf> gpg error doesnt matter that much.
[08:21] <BlankB> try apt-key list and compare it to: http://pastebin.com/393194
[08:21] <lwells> After the update, now it just goes to the command promp
[08:22] <BlankB> I did a full backup of old system and started fresh with breezy.
[08:22] <aftertaf> lwells:  thats normal. to return to cmd prompt.
[08:22] <lwells> well lucky i had no data
[08:22] <aftertaf> rerun dist-upgrade and itll say 0 to install/upgrade.
[08:23] <lwells> ok
[08:23] <aftertaf> have you rebooted?
[08:23] <aftertaf> new kernel & all....
[08:23] <lwells> i did reboot
[08:24] <lwells> the prompt says it is now breezy
[08:26] <aftertaf> lwells:  but no X?
[08:26] <lwells> right
[08:26] <aftertaf> lwells:  what does startx give as an error?
[08:27] <lwells> sure does
[08:27] <aftertaf> yeah :) but what error?
[08:27] <lwells> said it was unable to connect to x server
[08:28] <aftertaf> what reason?
[08:28] <lwells> xinit: connection refused (errno 111)
[08:29] <lwells> can i just install X again?
[08:29] <aftertaf> cnn refused?   ok. delete the .ICEauthority file in your home
[08:29] <aftertaf> lwells:  wont help, and not needed.
[08:29] <lwells> just delete that file?
[08:29] <aftertaf> is kdm stopped?   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:30] <aftertaf> yep delete it !
[08:30] <aftertaf> .ICE.....
[08:31] <lwells> where is that file
[08:31] <aftertaf> did kdm stop?
[08:31] <aftertaf> in your home.
[08:31] <lwells> yes
[08:31] <aftertaf> cool.
[08:31] <aftertaf> cd ~/
[08:31] <aftertaf> itsa hidden file
[08:32] <aftertaf> are you in your home directory?
[08:33] <lwells> yep, no .iceauthority file there
[08:33] <lwells> yea there it is 
[08:33] <aftertaf> even with ls -A
[08:33] <lwells> hold on
[08:33] <aftertaf> hidden :)
[08:33] <lwells> ok gone
[08:34] <aftertaf> ok.
[08:34] <lwells> now what
[08:34] <aftertaf> now, try startx again, and give me the exact error
[08:35] <lwells> gives me some permission denied in the /usr/bin/startx
[08:35] <lwells> and a xinit:server error
[08:36] <lwells> no error number this time, just says xinit: Server error
[08:36] <lwells> oh it does say:
[08:37] <lwells> creating new authority file ... .serverauth.4094
[08:38] <aftertaf> lwells:  weird that..... 
[08:38] <aftertaf> try sudo startx
[08:38] <lwells> ok
[08:38] <aftertaf> (just for test. never run X as root otherwise)
[08:39] <lwells> no permission deny anymore, but same xinit: Server error
[08:39] <lwells> NO errno
[08:39] <lwells> is the "creating new authority file" normal?
[08:39] <aftertaf> lwells:  wha is your gfx card?
[08:40] <aftertaf> lwells:  yep. deleted old one (.ICE...)
[08:40] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys,.."
[08:40] <lwells> no clue, but worked before the upgrade
[08:40] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i need a speed help.. i forgot how fstab work.. and i need a very fast thing since i am configuring my new ipod nano on linux
[08:40] <aftertaf> lwells:  type lspci
[08:40] <aftertaf> !mount
[08:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:41] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  ^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:41] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but i can't understand why i can't mount as normal user 
[08:41] <lwells> Command not found
[08:41] <lwells> opps typed it wrong
[08:41] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > dev/sda2        /media/ipod	    hfs      noauto,rw,user									0 			0
[08:41] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > with a slash at the beginning of the line obviously..
[08:42] <lwells> nVidia card
[08:42] <aftertaf> lwells:  oki. :)
[08:42] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > please help me i have only this evening to work on this thing...!!
[08:42] <aftertaf> lwells:  1st thing..... we'll edit your xorg.conf file.
[08:42] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > aftertaf: ? plz ?!
[08:42] <aftertaf> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:42] <lwells> ok, where is that
[08:42] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  i dont know, ive never done that. 
[08:42] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  try on #ubuntu....
[08:43] <BlankB> tallia...: is there a space after user and before 0
[08:43] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i am only asking you how i can configure my fstab 
[08:43] <lwells> says new file
[08:43] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  i'm a newb for most things.......
[08:43] <aftertaf> lwells:  not god.
[08:43] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > and if the line i paste before is right to allow a normal user to mount that partition
[08:43] <aftertaf> *good
[08:43] <lwells> ok
[08:43] <aftertaf> lwells:  quit nano, type cd /etc/X11
[08:44] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ubotu: and you can you tell me why i can't mount as a normal user this drive?
[08:44] <ubotu> Tallia1[UbuntU] : I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:44] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > dev/sda2        /media/ipod	    hfs      noauto,rw,user									0 			0
[08:44] <aftertaf> case sensitive.....
[08:44] <aftertaf> brb
[08:44] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  : in what you pasted there is no whitespace after user.?
[08:44] <lwells> no directory
[08:44] <lwells> man what a mess
[08:44] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > there's a lot of space after user
[08:45] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: several tabs and spaces 
[08:45] <lwells> yes got it sorry
[08:45] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  ahh...I just dont see it here.
[08:46] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  well what error does it return when you try to mount it as a user?
[08:46] <lwells> ok, in the config file, just a mistype
[08:46] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i'm trying to add the option "umask=000" since in the past i resolved my problems with that
[08:46] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > it tells me that i haven't got enough permissions!!
[08:46] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > mount: only root can do that
[08:47] <aftertaf> lwells:  hehe ok.
[08:47] <lwells> sorry, fat fingers
[08:47] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  Copy and paste your /etc/fstab to http://blankb.pastebin.com/
[08:48] <lwells> what do i need to look for
[08:48] <aftertaf> lwells:  scroll down and find Section "Device" that mentions your gfx card.
[08:48] <aftertaf> you'll have "nv" or "nvidia" as module name
[08:48] <aftertaf> Driver name*
[08:48] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > http://rafb.net/paste/results/MfwQzz58.html
[08:49] <lwells> ok there
[08:49] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > umask=000 has been detected as  a wrong option.. :(
[08:49] <aftertaf> lwells:  what you you have as driver?
[08:49] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  where did you put it int the line?
[08:49] <lwells> teh Nvidia
[08:49] <lwells> the
[08:50] <lwells> nv is the driver
[08:50] <aftertaf> lwells:  ok.
[08:50] <lwells> so it is not the graphics card?
[08:50] <aftertaf> nv: open source on accelerated version of driver
[08:50] <aftertaf> non*
[08:50] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ??
[08:50] <kinfo> what?
[08:50] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > aftertaf: ? what do you mean?
[08:51] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  where in the line did you put the umask option.?
[08:51] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  is /media/ipod +x and +w  the user or world?
[08:51] <aftertaf> lwells:  return to console...... 
[08:51] <lwells> ok there
[08:51] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > yes,, 
[08:51] <aftertaf> lwells:  what processor do you have?
[08:51] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i can mount the drive if i do the operation as root
[08:51] <lwells> it is a pentium 4
[08:52] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but when you mount as root, you have only read access .. and the program can't work since its work is syncronize these directories
[08:52] <aftertaf> ok. lwells type: sudo apt-get install  linux-686
[08:52] <lwells> ok
[08:52] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i've put the umask in the beginning of the options
[08:52] <aftertaf> (grabs an optimised kernel...)
[08:52] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > like for the others /dev/sda /dev/sdb lines
[08:53] <aftertaf> lwells:  does it also mention it wil install 686-restricted?
[08:53] <lwells> in the errors?
[08:54] <aftertaf> lwells:  nope, when you rune the apt-get command?
[08:54] <lwells> ok. let me see
[08:54] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  so when you type: mount /dev/sda2 /media/ipod  it returns: "mount: only root can do that" ?
[08:55] <lwells> it says it could not find package linux-686
[08:55] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > y
[08:55] <BlankB> as the user I mean.
[08:55] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: yes
[08:55] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: exactly.. but when i mount as root everything function..!
[08:55] <aftertaf> lwells:  you typed exactly as i did?  all smallcase?
[08:56] <aftertaf> lwells:  weird.....    this pc is upgraded to breezy?  is it conneted to internet?
[08:56] <lwells> it is connected yes
[08:56] <lwells> and it is upgraded to Breezy
[08:57] <aftertaf> type uname -a, wat is the result?
[08:57] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: here it is what happens.. precisely..
[08:58] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wI11d70.html
[08:58] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wI11d70.html
[08:58] <lwells> linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:58] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: as you can see, everything can be mount correctly.. AS ROOT
[08:59] <cb68> je viens de testeer kubuntu live
[08:59] <cb68> Mais tout est en anglais saut l'installation ?
[08:59] <aftertaf> lwells:  ok. retry sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:59] <cb68> estce normal ?
[08:59] <aftertaf> cb68:  ch? pas, jamais test?
[09:00] <aftertaf> cb68:  anglais pwns tout, :)
[09:00] <cb68> Ho sorry I am on the english area ! sorry
[09:00] <aftertaf> lol cb68 no pbs
[09:00] <lwells> still could not find package linux-686
[09:00] <cb68> I thought I was on kubuntu-fr ! I did not take care 
[09:01] <cb68> I said I just tested the kubuntu live and all is in english is it normal ?
[09:01] <aftertaf> ok try this,    apt-cache search linux-*
[09:01] <aftertaf> cb68:  je sais :) gcompris
[09:01] <aftertaf> cb68:  cant you chage in regionalisation, to french?
[09:01] <cb68> Question is kubuntu live 510 multilingual ?
[09:01] <aciDHead> hi
[09:01] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: ??
[09:02] <duder> can someone tell me what this means and what I can do? this is what pops up when turn on my kubuntu system. I get no sound. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393207
[09:02] <lwells> It found alot
[09:02] <aciDHead> is there already an apt source for kde 3.43 ??
[09:02] <cb68> I try to change the language and the choise was Us english ou UK english
[09:02] <aftertaf> lwells:  did you type apt-get update?
[09:02] <lwells> not recently
[09:02] <aciDHead> yes
[09:02] <lwells> do it again?
[09:02] <aciDHead> no effect
[09:03] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  yes. lwells yes
[09:03] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  I am trying it right now...just a sec.
[09:03] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  but i cant give you it i removed it, now on 3.5 beta
[09:03] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: kkk
[09:03] <aciDHead> aftertaf: is it stable 3.5 ?
[09:03] <lwells> Does not appear to work 
[09:04] <aftertaf> lwells:  error?
[09:04] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  beat==not stable, but seems fine to me.
[09:04] <lwells> it says "Could't stat source package list...
[09:04] <aftertaf> beta*
[09:04] <aciDHead> aftertaf: can you find the source for me ? again ?
[09:05] <aftertaf> lwells:  paste me one line of your souorces.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[09:05] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  erf.... i got it from the topic here.. ill have a peek.
[09:05] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  If it makes you feel any better I cant mount anything as a user either. Still looking into why.
[09:06] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ breezy-updates main
[09:06] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  try httping there, see if kde343 exists
[09:06] <lwells> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[09:06] <aftertaf> ok
[09:08] <lwells> You know, not sure it is connecting to the internet anymore
[09:08] <aftertaf> yeah.
[09:08] <aftertaf> sounds that way. whats the conection type?
[09:09] <lwells> pci wireless card
[09:09] <aftertaf> omg :/
[09:09] <aciDHead> aftertaf: i know that.. but there is nothing.. maybe i wait a day or two
[09:09] <lwells> maybe i should use a direct connection for now?
[09:09] <lwells> what?
[09:09] <aftertaf> if you type iwconfig, you have an ip?
[09:10] <lwells> it says no wireless extentions
[09:10] <aftertaf> come over to #ubuntu..... i can't help you on this part :/
[09:11] <lwells> ok
[09:11] <aftertaf> lwells:  try this for X though....    sud spkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:11] <aftertaf> sudo*
[09:11] <lwells> ok
[09:12] <aftertaf> and see you on #ubuntu ;)
[09:12] <lwells> spkg?
[09:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: :( ;( i can upload informations to my ipod but i can't update the library file.. since it is write protected..
[09:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > and if i start the syncro application as root the situation doesn't change.. UHEEE
[09:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > help!
[09:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: in the manual it was said to put the line: /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat noauto,rw,user 00
[09:14] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > that is what i have done before coming here..
[09:15] <lwells> that did not work
[09:17] <RezDawg> Can someone helpp me out, I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy but now kaffine is gone and firefox.  I went to package manager and updated everything but I still get... Service '/home/default/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop' is malformatted.
[09:19] <aciDHead> is 5.10 final ??
[09:19] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  I see what you are saying. I cant get my firewire drive to mount as a user either.
[09:19] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: this is weird!!
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: i found this page on hfs filesystem 
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/Students/hargrove/HFS/README-2.html
[09:22] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: and also here it is said to use UID to set the permissions..
[09:23] <BlankB> Yeah the firewire drive I am using is formatted ext2. And I cant mount as a user. Im sure I am just overlooking something.
[09:25] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > me too
[09:31] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me with Sun's JAVA ?
[09:31] <LaserLine> I installed it using the Wiki - Restricted formats, I can use it with Konqueror but Firefox doesn't  What can I do ?
[09:32] <LaserLine> Anyone ?
[09:32] <BlankB> argh. That was not fun.
[09:33] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: ?
[09:33] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > get the message?
[09:33] <RezDawg> LaserLine: you have to link it to firefox
[09:34] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  nope...Konversation crashed and wouldnt restart till I rebooted.
[09:34] <LaserLine> how ?
[09:34] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: ok
[09:34] <RezDawg> LaserLine: well ive only done it once, so im not the one to ask
[09:34] <RezDawg> LaserLine: i read  a wiki and did it
[09:34] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: now?
[09:34] <LaserLine> What Wiki ? 
[09:35] <RezDawg> LaserLine: let me look to see if i can find it
[09:35] <seaLne> !Restricted formats
[09:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:36] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  didnt get anything.
[09:37] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > mhh, send me a mail at public DOT andrea DOT tagliasacchi AT gmail DOT com if you find out somethign
[09:37] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i have to reboot
[09:41] <RezDawg> LaserLine: did you get that ?
[09:42] <LaserLine> Yes. thanks
[09:43] <BlankB> doeth. Figured it out and now tallia1 is gone.
[09:43] <aftertaf> BlankB:  got his mail?
[09:44] <aftertaf> and BlankB what was the answer?
[09:44] <aftertaf> :)
[09:44] <BlankB> yep. If he doesnt come back soon I will email.
[09:44] <BlankB> I was too sleepy...A user should mount like: mount /dev/sda1   not as mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[09:45] <BlankB> in fstab I have: /dev/sda1       /tmp/testmount  auto    user 0 0
[09:45] <BlankB> and as a user only these 2 commands will mount it: mount /dev/sda1 or mount /tmp/testmount
[09:46] <andrea_> BlankB: found something?
[09:47] <BlankB> I was too sleepy...A user should mount like: mount /dev/sda1   not as mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[09:47] <BlankB> and as a user only these 2 commands will mount it: mount /dev/sda1 or mount /tmp/testmount
[09:47] <BlankB> in fstab I have: /dev/sda1       /tmp/testmount  auto    user 0 0
[09:47] <BlankB> so yours would just be: mount /media/ipod as the user
[09:48] <andrea_> now i try
[09:48] <LaserLine> RezDawgThere is only Mozila, no firefox... what to do ?
[09:48] <andrea_> and this is possible with the user option?
[09:49] <andrea_> or with which option in the line..
[09:49] <andrea_> BlankB: ?
[09:49] <BlankB> the user option.
[09:49] <andrea_> i'll try
[09:51] <seaLne> shouldn't hotplug be automounting things?
[09:51] <BlankB> usually.
[09:51] <andrea_> VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda2.
[09:52] <andrea_> weird...
[09:52] <andrea_> i'll put auto
[09:52] <andrea_> since when i mount manually it is ok
[09:59] <nikkia> seaLne: no, hotplug doesn't 'automount', it just handles /dev
[10:00] <gibarian> Hello everyone...does by any chance anyone of you have problems with gstreamer as well?
[10:14] <buz> gibarian: my kaffeine refuses to play dvds and stuff even though all the libs are installed
[10:16] <sekundek> hi!. 
[10:16] <sekundek> Can anybody help with problem of USB key mounting
[10:16] <sekundek> i get error " The file or folder media:/sda does not exist."
[10:16] <gibarian> buz: well, my kaffeine is acting all weird too. Can't open gstreamer, but crashed while opening files when using xine-engine...I think that whole things is extremely broke!
[10:16] <buz> mhh my xine works
[10:16] <buz> so does vlc so i dont care too much
[10:17] <buz> kaffeine ahs been a pain to use for me anyhwo
[10:19] <buz> has anyone used http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/09/29/45-easy-ubuntu-23
[10:19] <gibarian> unfortunately, xine crashes when opening too...and VLC tends to choke on sound issues...ah, if only I hadn't upgraded to breezy
[10:20] <crimsun> what sound issues with vlc?
[10:22] <gibarian> oh...well, right now it just randomly crashes....but for some files it doesn't seem to fin the right module...I'm right now reinstalling every multimedia component of KDE...let's see if that'll change anything
[10:23] <crimsun> err no, don't do that
[10:23] <crimsun> redirect the output from vlc -vvv
[10:23] <crimsun> to a text file, bzip2 it, and e-mail it to me.
[10:31] <vegiVamp> hello
[10:32] <vegiVamp> Could someone tell me how and where I disable automatic starting of kscd and konqi when I insert an audio cd ? I'm running breezy.
[11:11] <chakie> is katapult supposed to do something in a newly installed breezy? i can't find it in the menus and running "katapult" from the commandline gives me nothing
[11:12] <chakie> just a few lines of "Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror" and similar
[11:12] <chakie> nor does the new "System settings" really work, i clicked "Appearance" and then it broke...
[11:14] <chakie> starting katapult again made it show up with alt-space
[11:15] <sorush20> I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found... but I can mount the floppy and browse
[11:17] <sorush20> why I try to mount I get this message sam@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/fd0 mount: mount point /media/fd0 does not exist
[11:18] <mart> ah, quick q: anyone have an url to the kde3.5 packages?
[11:20] <Jacko> anyone know how to get the window toolbar in konqueror and the konsole window inside konqueror?
[11:22] <mart> Jacko: Window->Show terminal emulator
[11:22] <Jacko> I dont have the window menu for some weird reason
[11:22] <mart> eep!
[11:23] <Jacko> yeah
[11:23] <Jacko> and it's a clean new install of kubuntu breezy
[11:26] <jmg> hey guys good work
[11:26] <jmg> but my hotkeys are all broken
[11:26] <jmg> i think it is xmodmap
[11:26] <jmg> but i dont know what package to purge and reinstall
[11:32] <gibarian> uh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore?
[11:34] <gibarian> uh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore?
[11:34] <gibarian> uh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore? they do in dmesg, but no icon pops up in kde...
[11:36] <Jacko> anyone know how to get the window toolbar in konqueror?
[11:37] <gibarian> jacko: what do you mean?
[11:37] <mart> Jacko: perhaps it was disabled in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings?
[11:38] <gibarian> so...does anyone know if that hotplu system is borked for KDE?
[11:41] <Jacko> mart: do you have the window toolbar?
[11:41] <mart> Jacko: or maybe the rc file in your .kde/share/apps/konqueror breaks it
[11:41] <mart> Jacko: yeah, I have it
[11:41] <mart> but I'm upgrading from 3.4.2 to 3.4.3/3.5 now
[11:42] <Jacko> I don't suppose you could look at your ...
[11:42] <Jacko> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc file and see if it has any reference to the window menu in there?
[11:43] <mart> Jacko: no, but the one in my home dir does...
[11:43] <Jacko> ah
[11:43] <mart> so presumably that overrides it
[11:45] <mart> Jacko: do you have a "Go" menu?
[11:45] <Jacko> lol nope
[11:46] <mart> Jacko: no, didn't think you would...
[11:46] <mart> (I do)
[11:48] <mart> Jacko: if you go to Configure Toolbars, you can add the Show Terminal Emulator action to an existing toolbar
[11:49] <Jacko> righto
[11:50] <mart> Jacko: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/konqueror/konqueror.rc?view=auto
[11:51] <mart> that's the default kde version of the konqueror config, you could put that into $HOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror if you want the default behaviour, I guess
[11:51] <mart> um
[11:51] <mart> no
[11:51] <mart> not that link
[11:51] <mart> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/konqueror/konqueror.rc?view=auto
[11:52] <Jacko> ah
[11:52] <Jacko> cheers
[11:53] <mart> hey, thank me if it works :)
[12:00] <Jacko> hm it didn't work but I finally figured out how to change profiles and now I can see it. Now how to find out how to get rid of all the other stupid profiles... Cheers for your help though mart
[12:02] <mart> wow! there's a KDE development profile :)
[12:06] <jmg> profiles?
[12:07] <mart> jmg: Konqueror, Settings->Load View Profile
[12:07] <jmg> mart: hhhhmmmmm
[12:08] <mart> jmg: hhmmm?
[12:08] <jmg> mart: gah what a shame
[12:08] <jmg> i left my laptop charger at work
[12:16] <vegiVamp> gibarian: check wether kded for media is active in control panel
[12:16] <Jacko> jmg: well that has got to suck
[12:18] <gibarian> vegiVamp: yep, it's running.
[12:19] <vegiVamp> and somewhere in desktop behaviour or so, wether it's allowed to show desktop icons for various mounted and unmounted devices
[12:26] <jeh_work> does breezy support a normal ipod out of the box? or do i have to try to find some source for the ipodslave from somewhere?
[12:26] <jeh_work> amarok at least claims to have some support for it, but what is needed for the "behind the scenes" ipod database sync?
[12:32] <jeh_work> otherwise breezy seems like a really, really nice version
[12:32] <jeh_work> stuff just works
[12:35] <aftertaf> (tm)
[12:38] <Tm_T> Kubuntu <4
[12:38] <Tm_T> whops
[12:38] <Tm_T> <3
[12:39] <oralcel> lol
[12:40] <oralcel> jeh_work, exactly
[12:40] <jeh_work> at least after 1h of testing it's much nicer than hoary
[12:41] <oralcel> I'm tempted, just as an experiment, to install breezy on my familys comp and see how it works out
[12:41] <jeh_work> katapult seems nice too, but the new control center (system settings?) was horribly buggy
[12:41] <boldii> hi
[12:41] <jeh_work> i simply clicked on one icon in the system settings window, and the layout changed and then i couldn't get back anymore. horrible repaint issues too
[12:42] <boldii> I accidently removed the menu entries from /etc/xdg/menus how can I get them back? 
[12:44] <jeh_work> heh, if i try to purge the obsolete package "libgtk1.2" i seem to also purge packages like: kate-plugins, python-qt3 etc
[12:45] <aftertaf> dont believe all that is obsolete ;)
[12:49] <jeh_work> aftertaf: no, it isn't
[12:49] <jeh_work> aftertaf: that's what makes it slightly funny...
[12:49] <aftertaf> hehe
[12:49] <jeh_work> but gtk1.2 is obsolete, even in the gnome world
[12:49] <aftertaf> i needed it to compile E.
[12:50] <aftertaf> -dev anyway
[12:52] <jeh_work> i don't even have E installed
[12:52] <aftertaf> hehe  i do, now !
[12:55] <boldii> anybody an idea where I can find the default kubuntu menu, that means in which package?
[12:55] <aftertaf> boldii:  define, default menu...
[12:56] <boldii> aftertaf: the menu I get when I install kubuntu the first time.
[12:56] <aftertaf> the "start" menu?
[12:57] <aftertaf> its part of kicker i think, which is in kdebase, i think.
[12:57] <aftertaf> you want to restore the menu to default?
[12:57] <boldii> aftertaf: yes.
[12:57] <jeh_work> ah, there was a package for ipodlsave, it just wasn't default
[12:57] <aftertaf> you borked it?
[12:58] <boldii> aftertaf: exactly ;)
[12:59] <aftertaf> hehe. dude, i sympathinse.    but i dont know howyou can do that.   what is happening? any error message?
[01:00] <boldii> aftertaf: well, erm, I removed /etc/xdg/menus (I was sure I had a backup)
[01:00] <aftertaf> what is xdg a part of?
[01:01] <mart> aftertaf: it's just the standard place to put that kind of menu stuff
[01:01] <aftertaf> you could try a dpkg-reconfigure of kdebase
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info kicker
[01:01] <ubotu> kicker: (desktop panel for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1638 kB, Installed size: 4904 kB
[01:01] <aftertaf> or kicker, even...
[01:01] <boldii> aftertaf: kicker doesn't include this, I already checked that.
[01:01] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, i figured the auto mounting out
[01:01] <CaiN_SA> still having probs
[01:02] <CaiN_SA> but will fix it
[01:02] <aftertaf> boldii:  argh.    
[01:02] <mart> er, if the files from /etc/xdg/menus have been deleted, just reinstalling the packages would replace them
[01:02] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  nice to hear :)
[01:02] <aftertaf> mart:  yeah, which package though?
[01:02] <mart> aftertaf: any packages that have missing menu entries
[01:02] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, the mounted things doesnt open correct tho, konqueror wants to open /dev/cdrom instead of /media/cdrom etc
[01:02] <aftertaf> boldii:  what state is your K menu in right now?
[01:03] <boldii> aftertaf: it is the menu of my former debian sarge installation.
[01:03] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  yeah, i noticed.... does /dev/hdX too :/
[01:04] <boldii> I could remove kubuntu completely, I mean the virtual package and reinstall it, that should fix it, right?
[01:04] <boldii> brb
[01:04] <mart> boldii: er
[01:04] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, so its normal ?
[01:04] <mart> boldii: that's a bit overkill
[01:05] <boldii> mart: so what else could I do?
[01:05] <mart> boldii: moment...
[01:05] <boldii> ok.
[01:07] <gsuveg> re
[01:07] <mart> boldii: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info && grep /etc/xdg/menus *.list | sed 's/.list:.*//'|sort|uniq
[01:07] <gsuveg> anybody know a kde variant of audacity ?
[01:07] <mart> try reinstalling the packages it lists
[01:09] <nikkia> gsuveg: there really isn't one, most of the audio editors are gtk based....
[01:09] <boldii> mart: thank you very much.
[01:09] <nikkia> gsuveg: you can usually get audacity to work via artsdsp or such, personally, i use sweep, wrapped to use jack using jack_launch
[01:09] <aftertaf> cool :)
[01:10] <gsuveg> nikki with artsdsp or ?
[01:10] <boldii> cya
[01:11] <aftertaf> nice one mart :)
[01:11] <nikkia> gsuveg: which wrapper you use depends on which sound api/server you're using
[01:11] <nikkia> gsuveg: jack is the best approach for serious audio stuff
[01:11] <gsuveg> nikki i never heard from it
[01:11] <gsuveg> its like the arts ?
[01:11] <nikkia> gsuveg: not quite, no
[01:12] <nikkia> gsuveg: its a more 'pro' orientated sound API that sits on top of alsa/oss for drivers
[01:12] <gsuveg> ah
[01:12] <gsuveg> nikki url of fm ?
[01:12] <nikkia> fm?
[01:13] <gsuveg> fine manual
[01:16] <nikkia> gsuveg: for jack? it'll be on jackit.sourceforge.net i imagine
[01:17] <gsuveg> nikki thanks
[01:29] <Kinomees> i added a secondary video card. how to configure it ?
[01:32] <djblizzzard> You may have to do this manually... I'm pretty new to kubuntu... but go into your xorg.conf and create another set of device and monitor settings for that video card...   You may also want to see if kubuntu has xinerama, as that will help xorg think that your working with one larger desktop than two seperate xorgs servers...
[01:33] <djblizzzard> you should be able to find a few examples if you google say "xorg dualhead" or something to that effect...
[01:37] <sedeki> how do i add truetype fonts?
[01:39] <aftertaf> !msttfcorefonts
[01:39] <ubotu> aftertaf: I haven't a clue
[01:40] <sedeki> aftertaf I don't have "msttfcorefonts" in universe
[01:41] <sedeki> And it's not only mscorefonts I want!
[01:41] <aftertaf> ah
[01:41] <sedeki> you have any clue?
[01:42] <aftertaf> nope sorry
[01:45] <grosser> Hallo
[01:52] <jeh_work> what should be the default g++ version for breezy?
[01:52] <jeh_work> 3.3, 3.4 or 4.0?
[01:53] <sedeki> 3.4
[01:53] <sedeki> no, sorry
[01:53] <sedeki> 3.3
[01:53] <sedeki> no 3.4 i belive. let me check
[01:53] <jeh_work> ok
[01:53] <sedeki> 3.3
[01:53] <jeh_work> ok
[01:54] <jeh_work> thanks
[01:54] <jeh_work> wasn't there supposed to be this ABI change for breezy?
[01:54] <grosser> hello
[01:54] <grosser> i installed
[01:54] <grosser> kubuntu5.10 yet
[01:55] <grosser> now i looking for a programm (testdisk)
[01:55] <sedeki> jeh_work I have no idea. check their homepage
[01:55] <grosser> i can`t download it over apt
[01:56] <sedeki> grosser okey, you need to edit your sources.list
[01:56] <jeh_work> sedeki: ok
[01:56] <sedeki> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <sedeki> you see this line ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ??
[01:57] <kkathman> Greetings all :)
[01:57] <sedeki> grosser ?
[01:57] <sedeki> kkathman greetings!
[01:57] <grosser> moment
[01:58] <kkathman> Hi there sedeki :)
[01:58] <kkathman> How are you?
[01:58] <Kinomees> if i put nvidia-glx-config enable then my X wont work :(
[01:58] <grosser> sedeki: and than?
[01:59] <sedeki> Kinomees have you read a nvidia tutorial?
[01:59] <sedeki> grosser do what it says, remove #'s in front of the lines under that commentblock
[02:00] <grosser> sedeki: ok. i remove ##
[02:00] <kkathman> Hey sedeki, did you upgrade ok to breezy?
[02:00] <sedeki> grosser no!!
[02:00] <sedeki> grosser right under this line "## team."
[02:01] <grosser> what?
[02:01] <sedeki> grosser there should be two lines with only one # each
[02:01] <grosser> no
[02:01] <sedeki> kkathman there are guides for upgrading to breezy
[02:01] <grosser> only ##
[02:01] <jeh_work> sedeki: i think that 3.4 is the default compiler, at least qt is compiled with it
[02:01] <kkathman> sedeki: ya I know I upgraded last night :)
[02:01] <jeh_work> ld: warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.5
[02:01] <sedeki> grosser okey, stop editing without changes
[02:02] <jeh_work>  libstdc++.so.6 comes with g++-3.4, the .5 comes with 3.3
[02:02] <grosser> sedeki: ok
[02:02] <sedeki> grosser run sudo apt-setup
[02:02] <grosser> i stopped
[02:03] <kkathman> sedeki: Just had one little thing...the install put icons on my desktop for my samba shares labeled "Remote Share". I already had icons so I'd like to get rid of them, but I cant seem to delete them.
[02:03] <grosser> sedeki: it runs
[02:04] <grosser> it need a cd
[02:04] <sedeki> Kinomees http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[02:04] <sedeki> grosser no, skip CD
[02:04] <sedeki> you want to add a FTP
[02:04] <grosser> but by cd-reader doesn`t work
[02:05] <Kinomees> ok .. ill do it over again :P
[02:05] <grosser> sedeki: ok
[02:05] <grosser> FTP
[02:05] <kkathman> never mind I found it :)
[02:06] <grosser> choose the country of the mirror
[02:06] <sedeki> grosser choose the closest mirror to you
[02:07] <grosser> error
[02:07] <grosser> i choosed german
[02:08] <sedeki> grosser http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:08] <sedeki> that's what you're actually doing. read it.
[02:09] <kkathman> I suppose I should actually install adept
[02:09] <grosser> ok, i choosed schweiz
[02:09] <grosser> and it works
[02:09] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[02:09] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[02:09] <kkathman> greets thoreauputic  :)
[02:10] <thoreauputic> hi kkathman :)
[02:10] <kkathman> aha!! adept was installed when I upgraded!! Excellent :)
[02:12] <ep> how does adept stack up against synaptic?
[02:12] <apokryphos> not too well, but it's gettin' there
[02:12] <pippolo> hello
[02:12] <pippolo> I tryed kubuntu 5.10 and I can't set gateway
[02:13] <pippolo> the live CD
[02:13] <pippolo> I modify gateway but it doesn't set it
[02:13] <pippolo> which is the Kubuntu root password
[02:13] <pippolo> ?
[02:13] <apokryphos> !root
[02:13] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:13] <kkathman> greetings apokryphos  :)
[02:13] <apokryphos> hey; how's it going? :)
[02:14] <kkathman> not bad...completed my upgrade last night to breezy...took about 6 hours :)
[02:14] <apokryphos> ouch
[02:14] <apokryphos> at least it got there eventually; how are you finding it?
[02:14] <kkathman> yah..slow connection...I didnt use the mirrors
[02:15] <kkathman> so far, so good...everything exactly the same as it was, except for java
[02:15] <kkathman> apparently java didnt migrate
[02:15] <pippolo> breezy is not the final 5.10?
[02:15] <sedeki> grosser you should be able to install testdisk now
[02:16] <apokryphos> kkathman: you can get them from /msg ubotu javadebs
[02:16] <apokryphos> pippolo: it is
[02:16] <pippolo> apokryphos: there is a bug at least into live-cd
[02:16] <apokryphos> ..which is?
[02:16] <pippolo> apokryphos: you can't apply gateway changes
[02:16] <kkathman> apokryphos: ok thanks....I really had a ordeal last time installing the java SDK
[02:17] <pippolo> at least into the CD-live
[02:17] <apokryphos> kkathman: there's debs so it should be ok; if you did the other method it could've been problematic, I'm sure.
[02:17] <kkathman> apokryphos: you sure that was the right command...its says it doesnt know what the heck I'm talking about :)
[02:18] <apokryphos> kkathman: *javadeb
[02:18] <kkathman> ahh ok
[02:18] <pippolo> bye bye
[02:18] <kkathman> hehe singular :)
[02:18] <apokryphos> ubotu: javadebs is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[02:18] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[02:19] <mpmc> Erm, I'm trying to install Apache (1 series) with php support.. what packages do I need to install for it to work?
[02:19] <apokryphos> ubotu: no javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[02:19] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:19] <mpmc> Amy ideas?
[02:20] <sedeki> mpmc apache, libapache-mod-php4 ?
[02:21] <sedeki> mpmc or php4-cgi
[02:21] <sedeki> i dont know.
[02:21] <mpmc> I've already installed that as well as trying to restart apache..
[02:22] <sedeki> mpmc you probably need to review your configfile
[02:22] <sedeki> for it to load php module
[02:22] <mpmc> wheres that?
[02:23] <mpmc> /etc/init.d/ apache?
[02:23] <sedeki> no, the configfile.
[02:23] <kkathman> I cant seem to find how to make firefox the default browser...that setting is missing in the 1.0.7 version that got installed :(
[02:23] <sedeki> mpmc i think it's in /etc somewhere.
[02:24] <sedeki> mpmc init.d/ is boot up scripts and etc.
[02:24] <kkathman> did they do away with the KDE Control Center?
[02:25] <mpmc> I found it, but its already been added...
[02:25] <mpmc> <IfModule mod_php4.c>
[02:25] <mpmc>   AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[02:25] <mpmc>   AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
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[02:25] <mpmc> see
[02:25] <mpmc> sry about that
[02:26] <sedeki> mpmc there is another file too.
[02:26] <sedeki> uhm, line.
[02:26] <grosser> sedeki: ok, now i can download testdisk
[02:27] <mpmc> I don't know :/
[02:27] <sedeki> mpmc wait.
[02:27] <grosser> sedeki: problem
[02:28] <grosser> Kann nicht auf die Liste http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backport                        s/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-b                        ackports_main_binary-i386_Packages) der Quellpakete zugreifen. - stat (2 Datei o                        der Verzeichnis nicht gefunden)
[02:28] <sedeki> mpmc do you have a "LoadModule" line?
[02:28] <mpmc> Hmm.. wait..
[02:28] <dude> hello all ,i'm using kubuntu 5.10 amd 64 and parts of the software/kde windows is freezing and it's show nothing in the this window but i can move to another window and after a while this window also freez sorry about the unxplainted quostion  but i don't know which details to add...
[02:37] <gibarian> hey everyone...are there any known issues with breezy and the kded monitoring USB devices?
[02:39] <Riddell> gibarian: yes, it doesn't use hal
[02:39] <Riddell> gibarian: No 2 on my "things to fix today"
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> vegiVamp: coffee :)
[02:41] <vegiVamp> hehe
[02:41] <gibarian> Riddell: Ah, great to see that I haven't borked the system myself...
[02:41] <Riddell> vegiVamp: fixed width font has a typo in it making konsole's font look weird
[02:41] <gibarian> Riddell: I started using that YaKuake thing...is that going to be included into the official release sometime?
[02:42] <Riddell> gibarian: yes, it'll replace konsole
[02:42] <Riddell> (not really)
[02:42] <nikkia> riddell, i've said it before, and i'll say it again, i'm weary of software that sounds like 'bukake' :P
[02:42] <Riddell> nikkia: that's my biggest complaint too
[02:43] <Riddell> yet another konsole quake I think this one is, yuck
[02:43] <gibarian> yeah, terrible name, nice app
[02:44] <gibarian> and I like that katapult too...now that I've learned that you actually have to type something in order to start something ;)
[02:45] <xuniL____> hello all,,,
[02:45] <Riddell> katapult probably needs a prompot on first run
[02:45] <Riddell> hi xuniL____ 
[02:45] <ph8> hi all
[02:45] <xuniL____> kubuntu.orgs homepage are buggy for me...
[02:45] <apokryphos> nikkia: heyhey :)
[02:45] <nikkia> hey apokryphos
[02:45] <Riddell> xuniL____: what's up?
[02:45] <xuniL____> can just see half lof the first letter..
[02:46] <Riddell> xuniL____: which browser?
[02:46] <ph8> I've just connected my Kubuntu to my university network, i need to mount a machine called hudson using samba, it's not working (connection to hudson failed) - do i need some sort of special samba configuration to use a large network like this? A way to list all available machines would be REALLY useful also - or links, don't really know a lot about it :(
[02:46] <Riddell> ph8: try typing  smb:/  into konqueror
[02:47] <ph8> ah good call
[02:47] <nikkia> most likely, you're not in the right workgroup/domain name
[02:47] <nikkia> using smb:/ in konqueror should list the wg/domain's seen
[02:48] <xuniL____> can you play games like frozen throne on linux just having wine and not cedega?
[02:48] <ph8> apparently to mount my j drive (work drive on hudson) i should use the mount -t smbfs -o username=username,workgroup=mds
[02:48] <ph8> there's no mds group here
[02:48] <ph8> i can't actually get into any of them apart from one called 'Workgroup' and even then i can't access any of the machines in there
[02:48] <ph8> (add //hudson/username /mnt/jdrive) to th end of that cmd
[02:49] <ph8> any useful tips?
[02:50] <ph8> .. please? ;)
[02:53] <xuniL____> done 5% of the download now
[02:53] <xuniL____> will reinstall linux tomarrow
[02:56] <ph8> can anyone offer further wisdom?
[02:57] <xuniL____> shake
[02:57] <Riddell> ph8: smb://hudson/username  in konqueror maybe
[02:57] <Riddell> also if hudson has an ip address try using that as well
[02:58] <ph8> tried that in konqueror
[02:58] <ph8> errors out
[02:58] <ph8> 'could not connect to host'
[02:58] <ph8> should there be any config i need to do?
[02:58] <ph8> i have smbd and nmbd running
[02:58] <ph8> not sure of hudson's ip address :/
[02:58] <ph8> at least internally, i know its external but that doesn't work
[02:59] <satafterh> has anyone dowloaded the dvd with success
[02:59] <satafterh> the torrent that is
[03:00] <xuniL____> no but soon
[03:02] <ph8> oops! Did i miss any profound wisdom?
[03:02] <satafterh> ktorrent keeps saying it cant download the dvd torrent because it doesnt exsist or corrupt
[03:02] <Riddell> ph8: I'm afraid not :(
[03:06] <ph8> bugger :/
[03:06] <ph8> means i can't do lots of my work
[03:06] <ph8> i just don't understand why it's not working
[03:06] <ph8> i know what to do
[03:06] <ph8> i'm going to hop to the windows partition and make sure it's mountable
[03:06] <ph8> later
[03:07] <xuniL____> a smal tip on an game Enemy territory... its greate and its free..
[03:07] <charolastra> hi everyone
[03:07] <xuniL____> hello
[03:08] <OculusAquilae> hello xuniL____
[03:08] <charolastra> in what package is the mp3 codec hidden?
[03:08] <OculusAquilae> gstreamer-mad
[03:08] <OculusAquilae> in multiverse
[03:10] <jalel> no estou usando a distro Kunbutu e sim Kurumin --- estou dando suporte em um curso a distncia --- mesmo assim eh possvel receber suporte nesta sala ???? ou s para quem usa Kunbutu ???????
[03:10] <xuniL____> eng plz.---
[03:10] <hyperactivecrond> !fr
[03:10] <ubotu> from memory, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:11] <hyperactivecrond> !es
[03:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:12] <hyperactivecrond> gawd what language is he?
[03:12] <hyperactivecrond> !ne
[03:12] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:12] <satafterh> ktorrent must havee a bug, i could not download dvd torrent with it but bittornado is working finee
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> !nd
[03:13] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> grr idk 
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> jalel: which language do you speak
[03:15] <strike4ce> Why do I still have the old Kynaptic package manager?
[03:16] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: because you didn't remove it
[03:20] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae:  How do I remove it?
[03:21] <OculusAquilae> strike4cd: for example with Adept
[03:26] <claudiu> helo
[03:26] <claudiu> hello
[03:26] <xuniL____> hello claudiu
[03:26] <claudiu> i can't install wesnoth. i am coming from gentoo and not too familiarized with this apt thing
[03:27] <claudiu> i tried       sudo apt-get install wesnoth
[03:27] <claudiu> and it says E: Couldn't find package wesnoth
[03:27] <xuniL____> you need to chane you scource.lpist
[03:28] <claudiu> okay but how . i worry not to make a mess of it
[03:28] <xuniL____> but i think they have the old version of wesnoth... if they havent updated it...
[03:28] <claudiu> xuniL____: what should I add to sources.lst
[03:29] <claudiu> can you mai me your sources.lst ?
[03:29] <claudiu> can you mail me your sources.lst  pls ?
[03:29] <xuniL____> not on linux right onow
[03:29] <xuniL____> you know where the source.list are?
[03:30] <claudiu> yep 
[03:30] <xuniL____> good..
[03:30] <claudiu> in /etc
[03:30] <xuniL____> have you opened it..
[03:30] <claudiu> ok
[03:31] <xuniL____> it was so long ago i where log on in linux,,,
[03:31] <xuniL____> but there should be something like universe.. or something like that
[03:31] <claudiu> what are you doing on kubuntu then ?
[03:32] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae: Why do you have to be a smart ass?  You're the type that runs people off from Kubuntu
[03:32] <xuniL____> paste your shource.list here pastebin.com
[03:32] <xuniL____> then i can tell you whant to do..
[03:32] <claudiu> xuniL____: wait pls
[03:33] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: what? sorry, but what do you mean?
[03:33] <xuniL____> okey
[03:33] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: you can remove it via Adept
[03:34] <OculusAquilae> click on it and then Remove or something like that
[03:35] <claudiu> xuniL____: i did it. just had to uncomment some stuff here. thnx a lot anyway
[03:35] <claudiu> :D
[03:35] <xuniL____> :D
[03:37] <ph8> ok
[03:37] <ph8> I can mount it in windows
[03:37] <ph8> why would it mount there and not here? :(
[03:37] <aftertaf> ph8:  check your user rights on /media
[03:37] <ph8> ? ;)
[03:38] <_thomas> What must I do to make it possible to play mp3's in amaroK og Kaffeine?
[03:38] <aftertaf> !mp3
[03:38] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:38] <martin> !mp3
[03:40] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae: In adept it doesnt show anything to remove.  In fact it shows kynaptic under keep?
[03:40] <martin> Anyone know from where can i install Azureus in kubuntu breezy?
[03:41] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: click on it an klick on remove package
[03:42] <uli> y0
[03:42] <uli> i have a problem:
[03:42] <uli> where do i get a complete breezy 5.10 multimedia codec package?
[03:42] <ph8> test
[03:42] <ph8> can you hear me?
[03:43] <ph8> having proxy issues
[03:43] <pointwood> yes yes
[03:43] <uli> anyone know?
[03:43] <_thomas> Do this mean that it isn't possible to play mp3's in kubuntu? I manage to do it when I first testen linux, it was ubuntu dough.. Or to this just mean that the audioplayer can't support mp3 oit of the box?
[03:44] <uli> ah serwas charolastra^^ 
[03:44] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: succes now?
[03:44] <charolastra> hehe hi
[03:44] <charolastra> uli: #kubuntu-de gits auch noch :)
[03:44] <kkathman> Did Breezy puposely disable several of Konqueror's features?
[03:45] <charolastra> kkathman: like?
[03:45] <kkathman> Well, perhaps its just how Konqi does it now...but I notice that there arent menu items for splitting left/right, etc...you must now enable a toolbar and put those options there instead
[03:46] <kkathman> Another example....loading/saving profiles
[03:48] <aftertaf> _thomas:  restricted format, no right to distribute with cd
[03:50] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae: but it says to keep installed?
[03:51] <kkathman> charolastra: sorry I meant to have those last 2 responses directed to you
[03:51] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: what?
[03:52] <charolastra> hehe, well, can't help you with that (as i don't have kubuntu; i though you might mean stuff like "speak website" 
[03:53] <kkathman> ah ok
[03:53] <kkathman> charolastra: funny you should be in the kubuntu channel then :)
[03:54] <charolastra> kkathman: you see, i'm the support hotline for a friend :)
[03:54] <sedeki> how can i change encoding from utf8?
[03:54] <charolastra> where?
[03:54] <charolastra> here?
[03:54] <kkathman> here, there, everywhere lol
[04:00] <reagleBRKLN> "Katapult is used to start applications and bookmarks. Just press Alt+Space then type the name of the program" alt+space does nothing, but page down in konq...?
[04:00] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to start katapult from the menu 
[04:01] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae: don't see it?
[04:01] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to start katapult from the menu 
[04:01] <OculusAquilae> sorry
[04:01] <reagleBRKLN> in utilties?
[04:01] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: simply do ALT+F2 and then type "katapult"
[04:02] <ep> are the backports broken?
[04:02] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: should be
[04:02] <OculusAquilae> ep: think there aren't any backports
[04:02] <reagleBRKLN> ah... very cool. how to use with bookmarks?
[04:03] <ep> ah, how would one go about apt-getting mplayer for i386/586?
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep. mplayer is in universe
[04:03] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to type the bookmark name 
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-get install mplayer-i[35] 86
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[04:04] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae: hrmm... not working
[04:05] <reagleBRKLN> e.g., `g test` is my bookmark to search google for 'test'
[04:05] <ep> apt-cache search mplayer doesn't list it.  Have I screwed up more sources?
[04:05] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: check your shortcut settings
[04:05] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to push STRG+C while the display is shown
[04:06] <reagleBRKLN> strg+c ?
[04:06] <Tm_T> OculusAquilae: I think hes has the same problem I did
[04:06] <Tm_T> -s
[04:06] <reagleBRKLN> shortcuts enabled, work in konq address bar, keyword delim is space
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep:  make sure universe is enabledc
[04:07] <OculusAquilae> Tm_T: don't think so
[04:07] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:07] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: does it work for programs?
[04:07] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: if something is using alt+space...
[04:08] <ep> I've done apt-get update and its listed in my source.list file.  What should I do exactly Kamping_Kaiser 
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep are you using hoary or breezy?
[04:08] <ep> breezy
[04:08] <reagleBRKLN> alt+space brings up katapult,  and I can use it to launch programs, just not bookmarks
[04:08] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to push STRG+C while the display is shown
[04:08] <OculusAquilae> press
[04:08] <reagleBRKLN> what is strg+c ?
[04:09] <dipnlik> reagleBRKLN: what's the big difference between katapult and alt+f2? (or win+r?)
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep - mplayer-[3,5,6] 86 are your options. no i
[04:09] <dipnlik> strg = alt
[04:09] <dipnlik> or ctrl, can remember
[04:09] <dipnlik> can't*
[04:09] <reagleBRKLN> alt+space, alt+c show control center in katapult
[04:10] <OculusAquilae> yes
[04:10] <ep> apt-cache search mplayer-386 list nothing
[04:10] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae:  so what does that tell me about bookmarks?
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep: pastebin your sources list
[04:10] <OculusAquilae> dipnlik: much faster than minicli (ALT+F2)
[04:11] <ep> ok
[04:11] <dipnlik> OculusAquilae: hm
[04:11] <MachineScrew> damn I am board
[04:11] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to look if it is enabled in "Catalogs"
[04:11] <OculusAquilae> dipnlik: you don't have to know the executables name
[04:11] <reagleBRKLN> Where is that option?
[04:12] <dipnlik> any advice before upgrading to breezy?
[04:12] <apokryphos> !breezyupgrade
[04:12] <ubotu> [breezyupgrade]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:12] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: STRG+C while katapult display is shown
[04:12] <dipnlik> thanks
[04:12] <reagleBRKLN> ah
[04:13] <ep> My sources.list --> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393445
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[04:14] <reagleBRKLN> Number of characters before searching is set to three -- not that I know what that means
[04:14] <dipnlik> apokryphos: i read about a problem with konsole fonts, was this already solved?
[04:14] <gibarian> Uh...is it a problem with my installation, or does Kplayer simply not work on breezy anymore (unresolved dependencies when trying to download...)?
[04:14] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: i don't know what it means too :-)
[04:15] <apokryphos> dipnlik: haven't heard of it
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep: looks ok. i just noticed though (sorry about this), mplayer is in multiverse
[04:15] <ep> oh ok, it will have to wait I guess
[04:15] <dipnlik> apokryphos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems
[04:16] <reagleBRKLN> well, the bookmark catalog is in "selected", -- not that the bookmark catalog iss in "selected"
[04:16] <ep> My konsole fonts are goofy by the way.   Where can I read up?
[04:16] <reagleBRKLN> oops
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep: if you add multiverse to all lines with universe you should have mplayer
[04:16] <reagleBRKLN> so it is selected, so I am not sure why it doesn't work
[04:16] <dipnlik> ep: the link above has a simple solution, is was a typo
[04:17] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: what bookmark do you search for
[04:17] <OculusAquilae> ?
[04:17] <reagleBRKLN> e.g., `g test` is my bookmark to search google for 'test'
[04:17] <ep> dipnlik, trying to find the link
[04:17] <apokryphos> dipnlik: well, no problem here at least.
[04:17] <dipnlik> ep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems
[04:17] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae:  if I type that, the icon that is shown after `g ` is just that of the unknown/default document
[04:18] <dipnlik> apokryphos: ok, will try it now. already downloaded the packages, just need to install them. wish me luck :)
[04:18] <apokryphos> g'luck :)
[04:19] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: thats not a normal bookmark of konqueror or firefox i think
[04:19] <dipnlik> OculusAquilae: on FF it is a normal bookmark
[04:19] <dipnlik> bookmark to http://www.google.com/search?q=%s , with a nickname "g"
[04:20] <reagleBRKLN> huh?  what do you use? I would assume you would read the shortcut configuration in konq's settings/ configured Konqueror/Web shortcuts
[04:20] <reagleBRKLN> there if have "g" set to http://www.google.com/search?q=\{@}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[04:20] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: but katapult only accept (lets call it) static bookmarks
[04:20] <OculusAquilae> without argument
[04:20] <OculusAquilae> s
[04:20] <reagleBRKLN> I don't know what that is, what is the static bookmark for Google
[04:21] <reagleBRKLN> oh...  I think
[04:21] <reagleBRKLN> well, just using g  doesn't work because if I hit return it pulls up gqview
[04:22] <Chousuke> omg :o
[04:22] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: you could use bookmarks to http://www.google.de for example
[04:22] <Chousuke> katapult looks like quicksilver.
[04:22] <reagleBRKLN> anyway, Anita turned to the more serious problem of my sound --  when I installed breesy  it doesn't work anymore
[04:22] <reagleBRKLN> back in a sec
[04:23] <Chousuke> Indeed, it seems to be inspired by quicksilver
[04:23] <Chousuke> Quicksilver is the best app ever.
[04:23] <Chousuke> I hope people clone it lots on both Gnome and KDE.
[04:23] <ep> Kamping_Kaiser, On the sources.list I posted, theres a couple of "multiverse" lines I commented out.  They gave me problems.   I should ignore these lines (made by the install) and instead add multiverse to the universe lines?
[04:24] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:24] <OculusAquilae> Chousuke: it is inspired by quicksilver
[04:25] <Chousuke> OculusAquilae: yeah. Google told me that.
[04:26] <Chousuke> OculusAquilae: And as I already said, Quicksilver is the best app ever.
[04:26] <apokryphos> that good? ;-)
[04:26] <Chousuke> Hell yes. :D
[04:26] <OculusAquilae> possible (never used quicksilver)
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep. either way (sorry, im working on another box :O)
[04:27] <Chousuke> makes lauching apps, accessing bookmarks, sending mail and all that doable without ever touching the mouse. :P
[04:27] <ep> i'll play with it thanks
[04:29] <ep> Quick question on firefox.  How do I get a middle mouse click to open clipboard url in a new tab.  I've lost this functionality on a new install.
[04:29] <apokryphos> edit -> preferences...somewhere
[04:29] <OculusAquilae> :-)
[04:29] <Chousuke> OculusAquilae: For example, I can select a bunch of files, press Cmd-esc to send them to QS, then press tab and type "mail" as the action, press tab, and start either an e-mail address or a name from my address book, and press enter to send those files :)
[04:29] <ep> i thought it might be a line in about:config
[04:30] <Chousuke> QS is like a pretty and easy-to-use GUI for the command line
[04:30] <Chousuke> or hmm.
[04:31] <Chousuke> not quite. but it rocks.
[04:31] <OculusAquilae> Chousuke: hm, seems difficult to implement, but I hope this will be possible with katapult too
[04:31] <Chousuke> and I hope people will clone it for KDE and Gnome too.
[04:32] <ep> ah its middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true in about:config
[04:32] <apokryphos> haven't heard of gnome having anything like that
[04:32] <uli> so mal neu eingeloggt^^
[04:32] <ep> should be the default AFAIK
[04:32] <uli> noch ist alles flssig...
[04:33] <OculusAquilae> uli: wrong channel :-)
[04:34] <uli> nana, ich bin schon im richtigen channel
[04:34] <uli> ups
[04:34] <uli> sorry
[04:34] <apokryphos> well, surely not, since English only in this channel :)
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> no uli your not ;)
[04:34] <uli> u right....lol
[04:34] <uli> k
[04:34] <OculusAquilae> :-)
[04:34] <OculusAquilae> #kubuntu-de
[04:36] <MachineScrew> why is KDE Desktop better
[04:37] <apokryphos> use Google
[04:39] <nikkia> KDE doesn't kill puppies!
[04:39] <Tm_T> why not
[04:39] <nikkia> (gnome may, or may not, i'm not saying :P
[04:39] <sproingie> yeah, we want to know
[04:40] <sproingie> my car gets 40 miles on a full tank of puppies
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:40] <os2mac> has anyone else had a problem with the network settings app not going into administrator mode?
[04:41] <nikkia> sproingie:  you are that sick german guy that runs his car on kittens, aicmfp
[04:41] <sproingie> nikkia: how could you accuse me of such a horrible thing?
[04:41] <sproingie> nikkia: my car runs on puppies!
[04:41] <paelscrit> im about to install kubuntu
[04:41] <apokryphos> congrats
[04:42] <os2mac> anyone got time to help me with a network settings question?
[04:42] <sproingie> gnome's file selector certainly makes me want to kill
[04:42] <apokryphos> sproingie: i.e. the open/save dialogue?
[04:43] <apokryphos> tell me about it :D
[04:43] <sproingie> i hardly use the features of most modern DE's otherwise
[04:43] <sproingie> but it's nice having thumbnails of pictures i'm uploading to a website right in the file selector
[04:43] <apokryphos> indeed
[04:44] <ep> Ok, After I uncomment the mulitverse lines on my sources.list I get pages of "couldn't stat source package" errors. 
[04:45] <ep> I pasted my sources.list earlier (the multeverese lines are commented out)  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393445
[04:45] <os2mac> If I suspend my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8600) and I start it back up, my network settings reconfigure to eth0 enabled and I lose the essid and key on my wlan0 card (which was enabled on suspend) 
[04:45] <sproingie> maybe using some IPC trick
[04:45] <mart> ep: you probably need to 'apt-get update' first
[04:46] <os2mac> and when I try to use the network settings app it won't let me go into administrator mode.
[04:46] <katakombi> hi.
[04:46] <sproingie> they probably have more or less identical return conventions -- a filename or list of them
[04:46] <katakombi> does anybody know when libqt4.0.1-dev will get into ubuntu?
[04:46] <apokryphos> sproingie: there was a *really* funny video I had with a comparison of them both, but the guy seems to have taken it off the server :/
[04:46] <mart> sproingie: actually there's quite some difference
[04:47] <mart> sproingie: hang on, I'll find an article about planned integration work in kde
[04:47] <sproingie> mart: but nothing that an adaptor couldn't paper over, no?
[04:47] <mart> sproingie: yeah
[04:47] <mart> like previews
[04:48] <ep> I get the errors when I run 'apt-get update'.   Afterwards if I try something like 'apt-cache search mplayer', I will also get errors. In order to fix all this I have to uncomment those multiverse lines and re-update.
[04:48] <sproingie> all the previews invoke ioslaves, no?
[04:48] <IlMonaco> hi to all
[04:48] <IlMonaco> i have a problem with the bootsplash
[04:49] <mart> sproingie: also, some classes subclass the kde file dialog box
[04:49] <IlMonaco> when kubuntu starts
[04:49] <ep> I meant to say I have to comment out the multiverse lines in order to fix the errors.
[04:49] <sproingie> the file picker would probably have to run out-of-process.  but hey, both kde and gnome speak corba, no?  ;)
[04:49] <IlMonaco> he says 
[04:49] <IlMonaco> vesafb.ko not found
[04:49] <mart> sproingie: kde doesn't speak corba no
[04:49] <IlMonaco> what do you think about this problem?
[04:49] <os2mac> anyone got any ideas?
[04:49] <mart> sproingie: plan was to do some out of process thing using dbus, and xml transport
[04:50] <sproingie> and i don't know if gnome has ever actually used it.  dbus would probably be more appropriate
[04:50] <reagleBRKLN> I installed breezy  over my existing hedgehog root partition.  everything is fine except my sound does not work
[04:50] <sproingie> i learned corba from books a long time back.  all i can say is it's somewhat better than tooltalk
[04:50] <mart> sproingie: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1396
[04:50] <sproingie> otherwise it's a horror
[04:51] <mart> sproingie: (but where's the main article?...)
[04:52] <mart> sproingie: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1398
[04:53] <reagleBRKLN> could gstreamer be getting in the way or doing something weird?
[04:53] <reagleBRKLN> I also don't hear anything from `cat sample.au > /dev/dsp`  so perhaps it is the kernel
[04:54] <reagleBRKLN> but the modules all seem to be there: snd                    48644  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[04:54] <reagleBRKLN> `lspci` 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[04:55] <sproingie> i always thought that microsoft was going the wrong way by abandoning DDE
[04:55] <Tm_T> DDE ?
[04:55] <sproingie> but given the slowness of out-of-process OLE components, i can see why they chose COM
[04:56] <Tm_T> ah
[04:56] <sproingie> Tm_T: Dynamic Data Exchange.  it was windows 3.1's primary IPC messaging mechanism
[04:56] <sproingie> apps still use it now, but only in rather trivial ways
[04:56] <Tm_T> ok
[04:57] <sproingie> i suppose some things you'd still want to keep in-process
[04:57] <IlMonaco> what about my problem with bootsplash?
[04:57] <sproingie> making every button on a toolbar a com object is fine, making every one a process is not
[04:59] <adrianoc> please, i cant conect MSN from KOPETE, but GIM is ok.
[05:00] <apokryphos> well... what's the error?
[05:02] <adrianoc> the kopete say: the password was wrong: please re-enter ... but she is correct
[05:03] <apokryphos> adrianoc: upgrade to breezy
[05:05] <adrianoc> but i using KDE, i can using kubuntu with source.list from breezy ?
[05:05] <adrianoc> breey is only gnome ?
[05:05] <Tm_T> err
[05:05] <Tm_T> adrianoc: ofcourse there's Kubuntu breezy
[05:05] <sproingie> breezy is all of ubuntu.  that includes kubuntu
[05:06] <sproingie> and now apparently xubuntu
[05:06] <adrianoc> ok, thanks i try
[05:07] <sproingie> anyone actually successfully used opera's irc?
[05:07] <Tm_T> me
[05:08] <Tm_T> a very long time ago
[05:08] <sproingie> huh.  seemed totally broken in 8.5
[05:08] <Tm_T> I was highly forced then
[05:08] <sproingie> ah, nothing else to use, eh?
[05:08] <gibarian> the breezy opera version gives me a segmentation fault...very much like the newest VLC version
[05:08] <apokryphos> oO
[05:08] <Tm_T> sproingie: it's useful
[05:08] <Tm_T> usable
[05:08] <sproingie> xchat now.  i wish konversation had the features i wanted.  not crashing would be one feature
[05:09] <sproingie> conference mode another
[05:09] <sproingie> ksirc might be hackable with perl.  but i guess it was too much work to actually document the perl API
[05:10] <reagleBRKLN> don't have sound with breezy, but if i rmmod snd-intel8x0, and then modprobe it, i do here a click; syslog says ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[05:11] <adrianoc> please ... Fail to down http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum incorrect
[05:13] <raphink> hi
[05:13] <raphink> I've got a problem with the kde 3.5beta1 repositories lately
[05:14] <raphink> I get a 'NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088' and 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>'
[05:14] <raphink> i've tried to update the registered keys for ftpmaster@ubuntu.com but it doesn't help
[05:14] <raphink> any idea?
[05:15] <paelscrit> is kubuntu configured to play mp3's ?
[05:16] <raphink> paelscrit: you have to install the mp3 librairies
[05:16] <paelscrit> okay thanks
[05:17] <raphink> you can use easyubuntu to do it easily
[05:17] <nikkia> sproingie: have you tried kvirc ?
[05:19] <paelscrit> i use breezy though
[05:19] <paelscrit> or am installing breezy atm
[05:19] <raphink> mhm
[05:19] <raphink> that's good
[05:20] <raphink> it seems some kubuntu developer has forgotten to export his key after adding an email address
[05:20] <raphink> or else I'm can't explain what's wrong
[05:21] <brosioz> hi
[05:21] <brosioz> anyone have k3b and dvd pioneer 110D i can burn only 2x with support 8x dvd-r anyone could help ?
[05:21] <raphink> anybody has got a problem with kde 3.5 packages?
[05:21] <raphink> brosioz: you should ask on #k3b I think
[05:21] <god-zero> I really wish someone in the GNU/GPL world would come up with a torrent based update system, preferrably with a voting/commenting system
[05:21] <nikkia> brosioz: i don't have that combination, but.... try turning off kded in the control center
[05:21] <MachineScrew> raphink: pobly unstable 
[05:22] <nikkia> brosioz: kded (the media:/ handler) can seriously  interfere with CD/DVD writing
[05:22] <brosioz> kded ?
[05:22] <MachineScrew> damn I am sucking at spelling today
[05:22] <evilmegaman> hi, I installed java and I can't remember how to enable it. Because it seems that the gnu java thing is the current java. I want the sun java
[05:22] <Ayiden> Where do you find the Kubuntu 5.10 kernel-sources ?
[05:23] <brosioz> nikki_a_, where ?
[05:23] <raphink> evilmegaman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:23] <Ayiden> without apt-get.. because with out the sources I cant go online
[05:23] <evilmegaman> thanks raphink
[05:24] <Ayiden> Could some one please tell me where to find kubuntu 5.10 kernel sources?
[05:24] <raphink> Ayiden:  $ apt-cache search linux | grep header
[05:24] <raphink> should help you
[05:24] <Ayiden> I cant go online with out them though
[05:24] <raphink> huh?
[05:24] <nikkia> brosioz: in the control center, KDE Comonents, Service Manager, KDED Media Manager
[05:24] <raphink> Ayiden: you mean the repositorise then
[05:24] <raphink> not the kernel source
[05:25] <raphink> Ayiden: I can't see why not having the kernel source would prevent you to use apt-get ;)
[05:25] <Ayiden> win modem
[05:25] <Ayiden> hsf
[05:26] <Ayiden> its crap i know *(lol)
[05:26] <brosioz> nikkia, thx but it's the same
[05:26] <raphink> hmmm
[05:26] <brosioz> i'm burining now a dvd
[05:26] <raphink> gtg
[05:26] <Ayiden> but the modem works fine with the liuxant drivers
[05:26] <brosioz> and is always 2x
[05:26] <Ayiden> linuxant***
[05:27] <evilmegaman> I can't find where it says how to enable Sun java instead of gnu java raphink...
[05:27] <nikkia> brosioz: hmmm, my 8x drive starts at about 2x, but gets faster, because its zone-CLV, are you sure that's not what you're seeing ?
[05:27] <raphink> uninstall gnu java evilmegaman 
[05:27] <nikkia> well, its a 16x drive, but i only have 8x media :)
[05:27] <raphink> and you'll only have sun left
[05:27] <apokryphos> !tell evilmegaman about javadebs
[05:27] <evilmegaman> okay thanks raphink :)
[05:27] <brosioz> nikkia, yes of course its start at 2x but remains always 2x
[05:27] <brosioz> :\
[05:27] <brosioz> now i'm 87% of 4.3gb
[05:28] <brosioz> 25minutes
[05:28] <brosioz> :
[05:30] <evilmegaman> So just remove anything that refers to gij right?
[05:31] <apokryphos> you really don't have to remove gij at all.. you can just install java's sun; they can happily coexist
[05:31] <evilmegaman> Oh
[05:31] <evilmegaman> And how would I do that?
[05:31] <helpme> how do i make konversation autoconnect me to some channels at startup?
[05:31] <evilmegaman> I installed sun already. but it needs to be enabled
[05:31] <apokryphos> evilmegaman: check the /msg you got from ubotu
[05:31] <evilmegaman> oh sorry
[05:31] <evilmegaman> Didn't notice
[05:31] <apokryphos> helpme: have you read the handbook?
[05:32] <helpme> apokryphos: ok got that:)
[05:33] <evilmegaman> apokryphos, Sorry but is there a way to just enable the stuff in /usr/java?
[05:33] <apokryphos> I have no idea what you mean by enable
[05:33] <evilmegaman> When  I do java --version, It tells me I am using GNU java
[05:34] <evilmegaman> I want it to use sun java
[05:35] <apokryphos> evilmegaman: did you install the deb?
[05:35] <evilmegaman> Nope
[05:35] <evilmegaman> the .bin
[05:35] <evilmegaman> the official one..
[05:36] <apokryphos> you could have gone wrong on a few steps; I really recommend just using the deb
[05:36] <evilmegaman> Okay
[05:40] <brosioz> how could i enable dma on my dvd recorder /dev/hda ?
[05:40] <mart> brosioz: is hdparm installed?
[05:41] <brosioz> mart, why hdparm ?
[05:41] <brosioz> anyway not
[05:41] <mart> brosioz: it's the only way I know to turn on dma
[05:41] <chakie> has anyone here happened to play with the ipod:/ ioslave and not been able to add files to it?
[05:42] <charolastra> because it sets the parameters of your HD (actually anything connected to IDE)
[05:42] <brosioz> mmm
[05:43] <brosioz> anyway exist a way to active dma on my dvdrecorder without hdparm ?
[05:43] <mart> brosioz: not that I know of
[05:43] <moebious> maybe i am asking something trivial, but couldnt find the answer from a quick look on the kubuntu website... can one download ubuntu, then add kde and kde config files from kubuntu later? 
[05:44] <mart> moebious: yeah
[05:45] <mart> moebious: you'd just need to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:45] <kkathman> back...hope everyone is well :)
[05:46] <moebious> mart, which isnt included in the ubuntu dvd? but only through apt later?
[05:46] <kkathman> moebious: in fact what mart says is the preferred method
[05:46] <Kaiser_sleeps> night all
[05:46] <kkathman> night Kaiser_sleeps 
[05:47] <kkathman> moebious: its not included in the dvd, because gnome is the default desktop manager. KDE is an add-on
[05:47] <mart> moebious: or you could get the kubuntu cd
[05:47] <kkathman> not everyone prefers KDE
[05:47] <mart> moebious: and use apt-cdrom add
[05:47] <kkathman> but I'm of the opinion, its much better to clean-install ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <Ayide1> is there a place to download the kubuntu 5.10 kernel-sources without APT-GET... i need a link to download the sources on windows
[05:50] <helpme> can't I install gnome from the kubuntu dvd? its not there?
[05:50] <kkathman> not really
[05:51] <Ayide1> theres o way to downlaod the sources ecept apt-get?
[05:51] <Ayide1> no*
[05:51] <kkathman> thats why I advise to install ubuntu, then put kubuntu-desktop over it..that way you get all the Gnome environment and the KDE...you always have a backup GUI
[05:52] <nikkia> Ayide1: yes
[05:52] <mart> Ayide1: what's the line for apt sources?
[05:52] <kkathman> but for smaller boxes with limited disk, kubuntu is the way to go for KDE
[05:52] <Ayide1> not sure
[05:52] <nikkia> Ayide1: if you open the base URL in your web browser, you can poke around til you find the .deb file in the 'pool'
[05:52] <Ayide1> oh okay
[05:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: and why would you not advise the opposite? :/
[05:52] <kkathman> mart: you looking for sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:52] <Ayide1> whats the kubunutu/ubuntu pool then?
[05:53] <kkathman> apokryphos: advise what opposite
[05:53] <apokryphos> kkathman: i.e. that someone install kubuntu, and then get ubuntu-desktop ;-)
[05:53] <mart> kkathman: no, it's ok, Ayide1 is trying to get a package url from an apt url
[05:53] <apokryphos> though if it's just for backup I'd probably prefer xfce :D
[05:53] <Ayide1> can someone give me the pool link? 
[05:53] <moebious> well, i used in the past slackware and debian, and on both of those, kde and gnome were both installed, and you could change from one desktop environment to the other.. but from what i see in the (k)ubuntu websites, its more of a policy, for ubuntu to not have kde and kubuntu gnome...
[05:53] <kkathman> apokryphos: right...absolutely true if you installed from the kubuntu disk.
[05:54] <pointwood> anyone had success with upgrading to breezy from hoary + kde 3.5beta?
[05:54] <nikkia> Ayide1: in particular, try something like: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/
[05:54] <Ayide1> does kubuntu have its own pool? or will the main debian pool work?
[05:54] <Ayide1> okay
[05:54] <Ayide1> is that for 5.10?
[05:55] <Ayide1> 9 NEED EXACT SOURCES IM NOT LOOKING TO RECOMPILE ONLY TO INSTALL A DRIVER
[05:55] <nikkia> if 5.10 uses 2.6.12, yes
[05:55] <kkathman> Ayide1: kubuntu is really just ubuntu base with KDE from what I understand..that may have changed in breezy
[05:55] <Ayide1> ooops *(lol) caps
[05:55] <nikkia> Ayide1: the repositories don't quite work like that
[05:56] <nikkia> basically, you have a list of packages for a specific distro, that point to files within the pool, a file in the pool can belong to several distros/versions
[05:56] <nikkia> !info linux-source breezy
[05:56] <nikkia> and it looks like there's no linux-source metapackage
[05:57] <apokryphos> kernel-source might be what you want
[05:57] <paelscrit> well i just got kubuntu installed for the first time
[05:57] <brosioz> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[05:57] <brosioz>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[05:57] <brosioz>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[05:58] <paelscrit> looks nice
[05:58] <brosioz> anyone could help ?
[05:58] <apokryphos> paelscrit: cool :)
[05:58] <boerni> hi
[05:58] <mart> brosioz: this isn't by any chance a very new computer?
[05:58] <Howdy125> Just get build-essentials and the correct kernel headers ...
[05:59] <mart> brosioz: (I take it you are running as root)
[05:59] <brosioz> ofcourse
[06:00] <Ayide1> kubuntu uses Linux 2.6.12.6
[06:00] <mart> brosioz: I've seen this problem recently on a Intel 9xx box
[06:00] <Ayide1> i only see 2.6.12 in the repositoies
[06:01] <Ayide1> is it the same?
[06:01] <nikkia> Ayide1: probably
[06:01] <mart> brosioz: Intel 915 host bridge?
[06:02] <brosioz> mart, i think the problem is with
[06:02] <larsivi> What's the best way to use KDE 3.5 in Kubuntu?
[06:02] <brosioz> ide_scsi module
[06:02] <brosioz> fuck this modul
[06:02] <Ayide1> wait would this be it linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb?
[06:02] <Ayide1> would that be the right source?
[06:03] <Ayide1> for 5.10?
[06:04] <Ayide1> nm it isnt : (
[06:06] <kkathman> Ayide1: When I upgraded, my kernel was set at 2.6.12-9
[06:06] <kkathman> and KDE 3.4.3
[06:07] <Ayide1> okay
[06:08] <Ayide1> thanks
[06:08] <Ayide1> so that IS the right kernel
[06:08] <Ayide1> should I get the headers aswell?
[06:11] <Ayide1> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb and these should be the right headers
[06:11] <Ayide1> okay well thanks
[06:14] <moebious> anyone can check whats the size of kubuntu-desktop package of 5.10?
[06:14] <apokryphos> moebious: a few kb I'd imagine
[06:15] <apokryphos> !info kubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[06:15] <spiral> hi
[06:16] <mart> moebious: about 12K
[06:16] <mart> moebious: 8K maybe
[06:16] <helpme> where can i order kubuntu breezy 5.10 dvd? i cant seem to find it ANYWHERE!  Plz help!
[06:16] <apokryphos> you can't
[06:17] <helpme> can't??? why?
[06:17] <apokryphos> helpme: no shipit for kubuntu, unfortunately.
[06:19] <chase> Hay, im having problem running KDE with my laptop display and a external monitor. Ive tryed to configure xorg and ive been in the display settings but both monitors identify as monitor 2
[06:20] <kkathman> apokryphos: no fair...no breezy party here :(
[06:20] <apokryphos> kkathman: where you at?
[06:20] <kkathman> Dallas area, Texas
[06:20] <chase> they are also running the same resolution, where as i need the laptop to be monitor 1 and the external display to be monitor 2, with a diffrent resoltution
[06:20] <soebbi> Does someone know how to use katapult?
[06:20] <chase> does anyone know how to do this in kubutut
[06:20] <chase> ^kbuntu
[06:20] <kkathman> apokryphos: I'll buy you a virtual beer  :)
[06:21] <apokryphos> cheers!
[06:21] <mart> soebbi: Alt-Space
[06:21] <soebbi> mart: Tut garnix
[06:21] <kkathman> apokryphos: isnt there a way to get your system updated automatically now? I thought I heard someone mention that?
[06:22] <soebbi> mart: Doesn't do anything (Sorry =)
[06:22] <apokryphos> adept update manager or something; haven't tried it yet
[06:22] <mart> soebbi: it is running?
[06:22] <kkathman> apokryphos: I just launched adept manually, there were a few updates.. I think it was in the Breezy Update Notes...I'll check
[06:22] <soebbi> mart: according to ProcessTable, yes
[06:23] <apokryphos> I think it is, yeah.
[06:24] <kkathman> apokryphos: ahh the autoupdater is gnome only it looks like
[06:25] <mart> soebbi: might be worth deleting it's configuration file in your home dir
[06:25] <soebbi> mart: One sek...
[06:25] <kkathman> It says "start-notifier" but have no idea what that is
[06:25] <helpme> can't I order it from any other online shop??
[06:25] <kkathman> no biggie
[06:26] <woddf2> Haldo
[06:26] <apokryphos> To help keep your system current, adept-updater checks to see which packages have changed and makes it easy to download and install the latest fixes.
[06:26] <soebbi> mart: There is no config-file in my home
[06:26] <apokryphos> (from the Kubuntu-anouncement)
[06:27] <_Admin1> you
[06:27] <apokryphos> ah; simplistic, but looks ok. Should satisfy all those that love it
[06:28] <apokryphos> though it has no tray icon, which IIRC is what people love about the gnome one :/
[06:29] <woddf2> Here is what lsmod outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393554
[06:32] <woddf2> Here is what lshw outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393561
[06:33] <woddf2> Here is what lsmod outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393554
[06:33] <woddf2> Here is what lshw outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393561
[06:33] <kkathman> Nice - gkrellm is standard now
[06:34] <apokryphos> woddf2: quit flooding
[06:34] <apokryphos> kkathman: yuck! :P
[06:34] <woddf2> Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[06:34] <woddf2> I'm on Kubuntu 5.10.
[06:34] <paelscrit> anyone know if i have to have a router to hook up my cable internet to my kubuntu box and windows box or can i just use like a switch
[06:35] <paelscrit> id prefer not to have a router
[06:35] <duende> a switch should work fine
[06:35] <paelscrit> okay cool
[06:35] <duende> i think, it migh depend on your isp
[06:35] <paelscrit> thnx
[06:35] <paelscrit> oh
[06:35] <paelscrit> hmm..
[06:35] <kkathman> paelscrit: usually that works fine, does for me
[06:35] <duende> i know with my old isp, i used to plug the modem into a hub, and all computers connected would get their own ip :)
[06:36] <woddf2> Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[06:36] <paelscrit> you have cable kkathman?
[06:36] <humbolt> I have a intel hda sound card and somehow I do not get how to make select the micro source for recording. I choose capture on the mic and turn on capture, but that does not seem to be it.
[06:37] <kkathman> duende: yah, I have DSL, no diff really than cable, and I have a wireless router with one line to an 8-port hub... each computer gets its own internal IP and the router has a built in hard firewall with a NAT
[06:37] <god-zero> apokryphos: beta1 packs? beta 1  too buggy for you to  concuder  it even as a beta?
[06:37] <woddf2> I'm on Kubuntu 5.10.
[06:37] <apokryphos> god-zero: no packs for amd64, and PPC. Got kde svn, but I'd really rather just use packs 8)
[06:37] <kkathman> paelscrit: Only diff between cable and DSL sometimes is that Cable uses static IP while DSL uses PPPoE and dynamic...but thats not usually a prob
[06:38] <duende> kkathman: i mean, each computer got an external ip.  i only had it setup like that for a breif time
[06:38] <apokryphos> woddf2: congrats!!
[06:38] <woddf2> Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[06:38] <paelscrit> well i dont want a router is the whole thing
[06:38] <kkathman> duende: ahhh ok...I dont do that for security reasons
[06:38] <god-zero> apokryphos: oh ya, sorry
[06:38] <paelscrit> i just want like my modem to a switch to the two computer
[06:38] <duende> yeah, don't blame you there :)
[06:38] <apokryphos> woddf2: please stop asking the same question a zillion times. If someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[06:38] <kkathman> paelscrit: you cant use just a hub
[06:38] <woddf2> Oh
[06:38] <paelscrit> oh okay..
[06:38] <paelscrit> so i have to have a router
[06:38] <woddf2> I'll just wait until someone answers.
[06:39] <kkathman> paelscrit: unless you intend on using one computer at a time
[06:39] <god-zero> apokryphos: forgot  U R nonX86
[06:39] <paelscrit> nah
[06:39] <duende> woddf2: lsmod | grep snd
[06:39] <kkathman> cuz theres only 1 IP addie coming in
[06:39] <apokryphos> god-zero: as-of-late, yes :)
[06:39] <duende> woddf2: see if you have the soundblaster module loaded
[06:39] <paelscrit> gotcha, thnx
[06:39] <kkathman> the router splits that ...thats the reason it works
[06:39] <woddf2> I tried modprobe sb, does that count?
[06:39] <duende> woddf2: well, that would be for oss.  i'm assuming you want alsa
[06:39] <woddf2> Oh
[06:40] <kkathman> paelscrit: really not much diff in price...routers are around $60-80 USD and hubs are around 30-40
[06:40] <paelscrit> 60-80? are they that much?
[06:40] <paelscrit> damnit
[06:40] <duende> woddf2: modprobe snd-sb16
[06:41] <duende> woddf2: if that works, then we'll set it up to auto load
[06:42] <woddf2> modprobe snd-sb16 said: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393569
[06:42] <helpme> can i install gnome  entirely from the kubuntu dvd? is it all there on the kubuntu dvd?
[06:42] <duende> woddf2: lspci
[06:43] <apokryphos> helpme: it isn't
[06:43] <duende> woddf2: check to see what's listed there for sound card
[06:43] <duende> woddf2: should say something like Multimedia Audio controller
[06:43] <woddf2> I see no sound card: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393571
[06:44] <helpme> noooooooooooo:(
[06:44] <duende> woddf2: is this on-board sound?
[06:44] <woddf2> I don't know.
[06:44] <duende> or an add-in isa card?
[06:44] <helpme> but i think gimp, gaim & forefox are there right?
[06:44] <duende> where do you plug the speakers into?  an add-in card or the motherboard?
[06:44] <woddf2> I think it's an ISA PNP card or something.
[06:44] <duende> yikes
[06:44] <Palos> hi
[06:44] <Palos> the dvd iso is broken?
[06:44] <paelscrit> helpme i think you would just get ubuntu for that
[06:45] <duende> i don't know how to deal with ISApnp stuff anymore.  back in 98/99 i'd have no problem with it :)
[06:45] <woddf2> I plug the speakers into the card. The motherboard's sound plugs are blocked by metal.
[06:45] <paelscrit> the only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu is kubuntu uses kde as opposed to gnome, i think
[06:45] <paelscrit> im new though i just installed kubuntu today
[06:45] <duende> paelscrit: with some added kick-ass features :)
[06:45] <paelscrit> i see
[06:46] <duende> woddf2: sorry man, i've no idea about isapnp anymore.  i had to forget that stuff to make room in my head for new information
[06:46] <duende> woddf2: there should be hundreds of howtos on the internet to help
[06:46] <paelscrit> helpme i dont see any of those application
[06:46] <paelscrit> its got konqueror, konversation, and kopete
[06:46] <duende> paelscrit: what applications?
[06:46] <duende> what are you looking for?
[06:47] <paelscrit> |11:44|  [helpme]  but i think gimp, gaim & forefox are there right?
[06:47] <paelscrit> you can just download those however
[06:47] <Chambers`> hey guys, whats a good binary news leecher for kubuntu?  klibido is exactly what i want but it keeps crashing on me
[06:47] <Tm_T> akregator?
[06:47] <helpme> they are on the kubuntu dvd i think but not installed by default
[06:48] <paelscrit> oh i see
[06:48] <Tm_T> knode?
[06:48] <Chambers`> knode is for reading
[06:48] <Tm_T> hm, ok
[06:48] <paelscrit> akregator is rss feeds
[06:48] <helpme> paelscrit: add the dvd to ur sources.list and then u'll be able to get those offline i think
[06:48] <Chambers`> i need something for downloading files that has nzb support
[06:49] <Chambers`> guess there aren't too many usenet leechers that use linux :P
[06:49] <paelscrit> thnx helpme, im not sure how to do that though ;).. im a total noob, i shouldnt have even tried answereing your question
[06:49] <paelscrit> i use torrrents myself
[06:49] <Chambers`> also, before installing the latest kubuntu, do the ATI Drivers have 3d enabled?
[06:49] <helpme> anyone who did not like the new graphical bootup in breezy?
[06:50] <paelscrit> it looked cool to me
[06:50] <Chambers`> is there a faq anyone on what to do to get mp3 and dvd support working?
[06:51] <helpme> paelscrit: its very easy dude....in synaptic Edit>Add CDROM......insert dvd in ur dvd drive and ure done:)
[06:51] <paelscrit> okay i actually have a cd of the .iso install
[06:51] <paelscrit> are they on there too?
[06:52] <helpme> paelscrit: no i dont think they are on the kubuntu cd..but i guess u'll find some packages in the ubuntu breezy cd....just add ubuntu breezy cd
[06:52] <paelscrit> okay
[06:52] <paelscrit> ill check it out
[06:52] <Nomad411> Hi all..  A bit unrelated but I'm desperate..  I'm looking for a hosting place that does IMAP (with subfolders) and LDAP if possible.. Any suggestions?
[06:52] <helpme> paelscrit: im also a bit of a newbie:)
[06:53] <paelscrit> i just installed kubuntu like an hour ago though hehe
[06:53] <paelscrit> before that ive barely messed around with knoppix and ubuntu live
[06:55] <helpme> hmm..good.....i hope u love linux.....try pclinuxos 9.1 too.......its a fantastic desktop distro with everything working out of the box......suse 10 also comes with everything preinstalled:).......but for me kubuntu is best:)
[06:56] <_andrea> do, do you suggest me to install the new version on kubuntu? 
[06:56] <paelscrit> yea im liking this kubuntu
[06:56] <reagleBRKLN> still trying to figure out why sound doesn't work, booted from kubuntu 5.10 live-cd where it does and looked at some things http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ezoair33.html
[06:57] <_andrea> ??
[06:57] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[06:57] <paelscrit> i actually tried installing suse 9.3 early and yast was freezing on install at format drive part
[06:57] <paelscrit> so i gave up after a while and now im on kubuntu
[06:57] <reagleBRKLN> the only diff is in live it indicates the two subdevices are 0/1 and 1/1, whereas now (install) its 1/1 1/1
[06:57] <helpme> i see......but suse 10 is getting rave reviews....
[06:57] <helpme> and so is ubuntu:)
[06:58] <paelscrit> maybe ill try 10
[06:58] <_andrea> ehI!?!? someone can say me if now the upgrade to breezy is safe?
[06:58] <paelscrit> im think i had a corrupt cd or something
[06:58] <helpme> im waiting for a kubuntu breezy review.....everyday i check out distrowatch for it:)
[06:58] <paelscrit> i dont know why it was freezing
[06:58] <helpme> did u retry?
[06:58] <_andrea> have been released officially right?
[06:58] <shogouki> usb keys are no automaticly mounted, same pb on your installations ?
[06:59] <paelscrit> yea several times
[06:59] <paelscrit> then i formatted the drive with partition magic in m windows box and retried
[06:59] <paelscrit> still froze at 0%
[06:59] <paelscrit> i gave it like 30 minutes too
[06:59] <helpme> hmm....i see
[07:00] <helpme> i guess it might be a corrupt cd/dvd but not sure
[07:00] <paelscrit> yea that was just a guess, i really have no idea
[07:00] <_andrea> qho???
[07:00] <helpme> whats ur hd size? how much uve given linux and windows?
[07:00] <paelscrit> seems no one has problems with yast
[07:00] <_andrea> The final version of Ubuntu 5.10 will be released on Oct. 13th. IS IT TRUE???
[07:01] <paelscrit> well its a seperate computer so there was no windows on it
[07:01] <paelscrit> its a 40gb
[07:01] <_andrea> can i now install the new version without problems only inserting files in thre repositories?
[07:01] <_andrea> aho?
[07:02] <helpme> _andrea: dude it has already released......r u kidding?
[07:02] <paelscrit> yea that was yesterday
[07:02] <_andrea> helpme: no, i'm not
[07:03] <helpme> _andrea: only inserting files? i didnt get what u said.......u can UPDATE ur installation if u dont wanna do clean install
[07:03] <_andrea> helpme: so i can install it safely?
[07:03] <_andrea> helpme: inserting lines in the repository file.. sorry i wrote in a bad way
[07:03] <helpme> u mean u dont wanna lose ur currently installled apps, right?
[07:04] <helpme> _andrea: no not that way dude...pop in the cd, reboot, then select fresh install or update.....as u wish
[07:04] <brosioz> hi
[07:05] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[07:05] <helpme> _andrea: did u get it?
[07:05] <helpme> brosioz: hi
[07:05] <_andrea> helpme: why i can not simply upgrade from repositories?
[07:06] <_andrea> helpme: yes, you suggest me to download the new version write a bootable and upgrade from CD
[07:06] <coruja> _andrea: or your go through your sources.list and replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' and then try a dist-upgrade
[07:06] <coruja> s/your/you
[07:06] <_andrea> but why you (helpme) told me a sec ago to do not use repositories?
[07:06] <coruja> but a backup is - as always - recommended :)
[07:07] <_andrea> backup of what?
[07:07] <_andrea> of system files?
[07:07] <helpme> _andrea: yes........there are 2 ways
[07:07] <coruja> _andrea: backup of your data, and maybe of some .conf files too, at least
[07:07] <helpme> u can do either way........
[07:07] <_andrea> ( side question, how i can generate a backup?)
[07:07] <_andrea> ( is there an automated program? )
[07:08] <helpme> _andrea: do u have a seperate home partition? 
[07:08] <coruja> i'm sure there is, but i don't know any by name now as i always archive myself
[07:08] <helpme> _andrea: for personal data, just copy them to cd......for proffesional backup u may use Konserve
[07:09] <helpme> Konserve is there:)
[07:09] <coruja> now i know at least one by name ;)
[07:09] <_andrea> i have different partitions, so i can simply move data from the root to one of the partitions with conserve?
[07:09] <_andrea> or you suggest me to do other things?
[07:09] <helpme> _andrea: dude...u dont need to move anything from root
[07:10] <helpme> tell me do u have any personal data stored in ur linux system?
[07:10] <_andrea> helpme: yes
[07:10] <_andrea> in my home folder... al the configurations and so on
[07:11] <helpme> then if u fear u may lose them, just copy them to another partition or cd
[07:11] <helpme> u can copy them to windows partitions
[07:11] <_andrea> and then i can simply use repositories change or again do you suggest me to use CD
[07:12] <helpme> if u do it the way coruja told u...u can never lose any personal data
[07:13] <spiral> are the backports for breezy alive ? where could I find the sources.list adresses ?
[07:13] <_andrea> helpme: so, why you told me to use the cd if the coruja way is better?
[07:13] <helpme> _andrea: is ur home folder on a seperate partition? or the same partition on which u have root?
[07:13] <coruja> in my opinion, best choice would be a fresh install (backup needed!), secondly cd upgrade, then an upgrade by dist-upgrade...
[07:13] <_andrea> same
[07:14] <helpme> _andrea: both ways are good.....but if u have home & root on same partition...then use repos
[07:15] <_andrea> ok tnx for the help
[07:15] <helpme> and dont do fresh install or update.....u CAN do fresh install but u must copy ur personal data somewhere bcoz u'll lose them
[07:15] <coruja> ...and in terms of convenience, the order will be from last to first ;)
[07:15] <helpme> _andrea: ur welcome:)
[07:15] <_andrea> fresh install or update?
[07:16] <_andrea> when i want to move my home to another partition how can i do?
[07:16] <motyR> Hi there:)
[07:16] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[07:16] <_andrea> simply removing the phisical direcotry and creating a symbolic link 
[07:16] <paelscrit> does kubuntu seem slow to anyone else?
[07:16] <_andrea> in the same place?
[07:16] <paelscrit> maybe its jsut my computer
[07:16] <helpme> _andrea: no no
[07:17] <_andrea> ( fast please i have to go to classes ....... ;P tnx)
[07:17] <motyR> is ther away to let usplash all over the screen? (1024x768)
[07:17] <katja> Hello
[07:18] <helpme> _andrea: its a bit complicated to transfer home to another partition...jut wait a min i'll give u a link
[07:20] <helpme> _andrea: http://wiki.kanotix.net/CoMa.php?CoMa=HomeDirectory
[07:21] <_andrea> tnx again 
[07:21] <_andrea> bye
[07:21] <_andrea> azz i'm lagte
[07:23] <MarcC> can someone tell me how to enable the terminal window that you can attach to the bottom of konqueror?
[07:24] <Nomad411> New question then. :)   Is anyone here familiar with the latest IMAP servers?
[07:28] <nikkia> guess he didn't really want to know
[07:29] <helpme> nobody answered thats why
[07:30] <nikkia> helpme: in 2 minutes
[07:30] <nikkia> helpme: that is NOT a reasonable amount of time to give up after here
[07:30] <nikkia> many of us have other things we're doing, you know
[07:30] <BlankB> Like having to hit reset after attempting to burn a data dvd.
[07:31] <Tm_T> BlankB: =)
[07:31] <helpme> yeah he may have been asking many times or many places.must be a newbie
[07:31] <Tm_T> helpme: btw your nick is quite annoying
[07:31] <helpme> like me:)     newbies have less patience:)
[07:31] <Tm_T> ;)
[07:31] <helpme> Tm_T: lol
[07:31] <nikkia> helpme: his loss
[07:31] <nikkia> helpme: and probably your loss, next time you ask a question i might be able to answer
[07:32] <shogouki> damn am i the only guy to have pb with usb key automounting ?
[07:32] <ubuntu> hi
[07:32] <helpme> hmm..i usually do hang around longer after  a question...unless ive to go somewhere:)
[07:32] <helpme> hi
[07:32] <helpme> shogouki: maybe;)
[07:33] <Tm_T> shogouki: propably not, media:/ has issues with hal
[07:33] <BlankB> shogouki: I have problems with a firewire drive automounting.
[07:33] <helpme> i have problems with a lovelife automounting
[07:33] <helpme> ;)
[07:33] <duce> lol
[07:34] <Tm_T> ehm
[07:34] <Lothar> Anybody here knows if live CD Ubuntu is able to read a MacOS file system harddisc?
[07:34] <pointwood> anyone had success with upgrading to breezy from hoary + kde 3.5beta?
[07:35] <Tm_T> pointwood: me
[07:35] <pointwood> Tm_T: it just worked?
[07:35] <Tm_T> pointwood: not just
[07:36] <pointwood> k
[07:36] <Tm_T> but I did it weeks ago
[07:36] <Tm_T> I bet it'll be much easier now
[07:36] <pointwood> and you had kde 3.5beta installed?
[07:36] <Tm_T> yes
[07:36] <pointwood> and just did a plain dist-upgrade?
[07:36] <Tm_T> yes
[07:37] <Tm_T> ofcourse changed my sources.list first
[07:37] <pointwood> yeah 
[07:37] <pointwood> just change everything to breezy...
[07:37] <pointwood> you still run kde 3.5 beta?
[07:38] <paelscrit> picture of karl rove from a few hours ago: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/14/national/14cnd-rove.583.jpg
[07:38] <paelscrit> oops wrong window
[07:38] <pointwood> heh
[07:43] <helpme> paelscrit: whos karl rove?
[07:43] <paelscrit> george bush's top advisor
[07:44] <paelscrit> he's in trouble for leaking a cia agent
[07:44] <paelscrit> kind of, nothing will happen to him of course
[07:44] <paelscrit> he got caught though
[07:47] <BlankB> I am having as many problems as if I had done dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda 8(
[07:48] <helpme> what are security updates? can i do without them? are they really needed?
[07:49] <hein> Anybody got a wlassistant package for breezy for me, by chance?
[07:49] <kkathman> Tm_T: o/
[07:50] <rumo> helpme, it would be better if you install the security updates
[07:50] <rumo> do you have a slow internetconnection, helpme?
[07:55] <helpme> rumo: yep....and limited one
[07:57] <BlankB> I cant even work 5 minutes without a crash. 3 problems. 1. Machine lockup 2. what I write to cd/dvd is not what i get back. 3. firefox crashes without warning.
[07:58] <strike4ce> I downloaded Wireless assistant and it went to ark,  How do I install it?
[07:58] <strike4ce> I extracted the file to my desktop
[07:58] <kkathman> BlankB: did you upgrade or install clean?
[07:58] <BlankB> clean install.
[07:59] <kkathman> Odd.
[07:59] <BlankB> #1 the lockups is probably the video driver. Using mga from their website.
[07:59] <kkathman> Dunno...I upgraded from Hoary and have had no probs
[07:59] <kkathman> possibly true
[07:59] <BlankB> but #2 what I write out is different that what I get back. thats bad. 
[07:59] <kkathman> BlankB: The kernel changed versions so your driver might not be for that kernel
[08:00] <kkathman> BlankB: that sounds like a driver prob too
[08:01] <BlankB> yep. and since I cant run for more than a few minutes without a lockup. It makes it hard to debug.
[08:02] <strike4ce> I downloaded Wireless assistant and it went to ark,  How do I install it?
[08:02] <kkathman> BlankB: I think I would start with those two drivers and check for compatibility with the 2.6.12-9 kernel
[08:03] <BlankB> strike4ce: is it a .deb that you got?
[08:03] <strike4ce> BlankB: its called wireless assistant
[08:04] <strike4ce> BlankB: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[08:04] <alexmic> hi all
[08:04] <BlankB> strike4ce: I am not familiar enough with it to have context for your question.
[08:05] <Chambers`> anyone have an ipod working with kubuntu?  I can go into /media/ipod but when I go to ipod:/ it says it can't be found
[08:06] <alexmic> I am right nows dowloading the packets for a dist-upgrade. Though synaptic tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I have juste the main rep. Is it normal
[08:07] <BlankB> strike4ce: if you downloaded the deb just do dpkg -i file.deb
[08:08] <Chambers`> how do i change the root password?
[08:09] <BlankB> !root
[08:09] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:11] <alexmic> I am right nows dowloading the packets for a dist-upgrade. Though synaptic tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I have juste the main rep. Is it normal
[08:12] <Chambers`> thanks BlankB 
[08:13] <duce> Are here people having also trouble with GnuPG and kmail?
[08:13] <Chambers`> is there a tutorial on what to do to get mp3 playback support and dvd support?
[08:15] <BlankB> is there a choice of kernels on 5.10?
[08:16] <coruja> Chambers`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:16] <`Nomad> Chambers:  if for mp3 support you mean teh ability to listen to MP3s, I had that problem and figured out to install some engines for Amarok this morning.  Use adept and search for your player's name, you might find options ot add ro it
[08:16] <Chambers`> thanks
[08:17] <hein> uh, what's the name of the kernel source package?
[08:18] <gibarian> does anyone get the message about FATAL ext2 module not found when booting the latest kernel on 5.10?
[08:18] <duce> Chambers` - for example u can install xine and lame for amarok
[08:18] <coruja> hein: try apt-cache search kernel source
[08:20] <MachineScrew> can any one help me with a pxe boot install
[08:20] <hein> coruja: Did, and installed 'linux-source-2.6.12 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches', however, all it seems to do is put a .tar.bz2 of 2.6.12 vanilla into /usr/src
[08:20] <MachineScrew> can any one help me with a pxe boot install
[08:22] <bengross> hi please help me i need to mount my windows volumes
[08:22] <BlankB> so 2.6.12 is the only kernel choice without recompile etc.
[08:22] <BlankB> ?
[08:23] <Chambers`> coruja: so which ones do i enable exactly?  I have a bunch of commented out universe and multivers's
[08:23] <Chambers`> breezy universa, breezy-backports main, breezy-security
[08:24] <coruja> Chambers`: the best is to have all official repos enabled
[08:24] <hein> coruja: ah, 'apt-get source' on the actual kernel image
[08:24] <coruja> hein: then you got what you wanted, or not?
[08:24] <hein> coruja: nah, I wanted it with the patches
[08:25] <Chambers`> thanks
[08:25] <coruja> ah, ok
[08:26] <libben> how do i check if i have the breezy fully updated
[08:27] <Chambers`> hmm..this wiki is for ubuntu and not kubuntu, it's confusing :(
[08:27] <bengross> how do in stall programs on kubuntu
[08:27] <Chambers`> so is marillat ok to set up as a source?
[08:27] <bengross> i need to burn some toast
[08:27] <duce> bengross - do u like to use a gui or konsole?
[08:27] <coruja> libben: when apt-get tells you that there's nothing to update, your system up to date
[08:28] <coruja> +is
[08:28] <bengross> simple konsole is ok
[08:28] <coruja> Chambers`: i prefer downloading only the needed files and installing myself
[08:28] <libben> yeah. but ive been testing breezy all the way. and hitted reload and mark all changes every day allmost
[08:28] <bengross> i dont know ubuntu, i used to use mandrake
[08:28] <libben> and now its released and im not sure if i have the all updated thing
[08:28] <MachineScrew> can any one help me with a pxe boot install
[08:29] <coruja> libben: these days, round release time, there are always lots of updates
[08:29] <Chambers`> coruja: is there a step by step tutorial on how to do it for Breezy Kubuntu? or is this wiki i am looking at for ubuntu up to date?
[08:29] <duce> bengross - use apt-get
[08:30] <Chambers`> grrr
[08:30] <duce> apt-get update for updating the database, apt-cache search 'text' for search and apt-get install'text' to install.
[08:30] <coruja> Chambers`: in that case searching forums would be best i think, you'll find lots of hints and more there...
[08:30] <Chambers`> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-thom" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[08:31] <duce> bengross - and don't forget the sudo in front of
[08:31] <bengross> then what? how do i do a search
[08:31] <Chambers`> bleh
[08:31] <duce> bengross - apt-get update for updating the database, apt-cache search 'text' for search and apt-get install'text' to install.
[08:31] <Chambers`> brand new clean install and Kate won't even start
[08:31] <Chambers`> are you sure this is final release..lol
[08:31] <duce> bengross - type in apt-get and u get a short help
[08:32] <bengross> yeh, suppose i want to download bit torrent
[08:34] <BlankB> So i restored to a fresh install of brezzy. My machine freezes when doing: md5sum kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[08:35] <Juerd> BlankB: It can take a while. How do you know it has totally freezed?
[08:36] <BlankB> cause all hdd activity ceases. And nothing responds. Not even a mouse. Plus I let it sit like that for 10 minutes.
[08:36] <tenco> hi! i have problems with kpdf and xpdf
[08:36] <tenco> when i make pdf docs with pdflatex...
[08:37] <bengross> i installed bit torrent icant find it
[08:37] <Juerd> BlankB: It could be that your system is incapable of high harddisk throughputs
[08:37] <tenco> the pdf file is displayed with ugly font in kpdf
[08:37] <tenco> ...and xpdf
[08:37] <tenco> but printouts are fine
[08:37] <Juerd> BlankB: Does it also freeze if you do: cat /dev/zero > zerofile.tmp
[08:38] <tenco> is it better to install gs-afpl instead of gs-gpl? is that the problem?
[08:38] <Juerd> tenco: That usually means you used a font that is known to your printer, but not to your computer.
[08:38] <BlankB> juerd: unfortunately since it keep crashing im doing a restore of 5.04 right now. Is there something about high throughput that I should know about.?
[08:38] <bengross> i installed bittorrent how do i run it?
[08:39] <Juerd> BlankB: I had it years ago with a broken IDE controller, and recently with a broken driver for a working IDE controller.
[08:39] <tenco> Juerd: is use the normal KOMA-package
[08:39] <tenco> *KOMA-script
[08:39] <Juerd> tenco: What font is it?
[08:39] <jagodragon> i forgot my pas word for nickserv can any one held
[08:39] <tenco> Juerd: i dont know?
[08:39] <Juerd> tenco: That makes it very hard for me to help you. Sorry.
[08:40] <BlankB> Hmm...I dont really get many kernel choices with breezy. It works great in 5.04 
[08:40] <tenco> Juerd: i dont care about fonts much. its serif for normal text and sans serif for sections
[08:40] <tenco> *section-headings
[08:40] <Juerd> tenco: If you don't care about fonts much, then what is the problem?
[08:40] <tenco> Juerd: they are displayed the wrong way in kpdf and xpdf
[08:41] <Juerd> What's wrong about it?
[08:41] <tenco> Juerd: e.g. "z" isnt as tall as "u"
[08:41] <Juerd> It may be an ugly font
[08:41] <Juerd> But if you haven't specified any font, it's practically free to choose
[08:41] <tenco> i made the pdf with latex
[08:42] <tenco> i used the standard-font which the koma-script package specified
[08:42] <Juerd> Sorry, I cannot help you
[08:42] <Juerd> Maybe someone else
[08:42] <Juerd> afk
[08:42] <tenco> and its printed out with a pretty font
[08:42] <tenco> Juerd: ok, np
[08:43] <hussam> do I need to keep xpdf or is kpdf enough? also does Kpdf require xpdf?
[08:44] <BlankB> juerd: luckily its not a kubuntu problem I get the exact same freeze using knoppix 4.0.2 using the same(nearly) kernel.
[08:47] <evilmegaman> how do I install java exactly? I installed the sun java .bin file in /usr/java, but when I do java --version it says gij or something :-/
[08:47] <BlankB> So anyone have any idea why my machine would be perfectly stable without a crash in several months using kernel 2.6.10-5-386 under kubuntu 5.04 and now under breezy with kernel 2.6.12-9-386 its crashes every time I do anything io related.
[08:48] <bengross> how do i mount my windows partitions?
[08:49] <duce> bengross - use mount
[08:49] <BlankB> Can the kernel in (k)ubuntu breezy be downgraded to 2.6.10? Are there any problems associated with doing that?
[08:49] <duce> bengross - or System Settings-> Disk&Filesystems
[08:50] <bengross> my settings doesnt list disk and filesystems
[08:51] <duce> then use mount
[08:51] <BlankB> !windowsdrives
[08:51] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:52] <jrattner1> When placing my memory stick in KDE gives me the following error
[08:52] <bengross> i typed mount and it listed some stuff
[08:52] <jrattner1> The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[08:52] <bengross> /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:52] <bengross> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[08:52] <bengross> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[08:52] <bengross> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[08:52] <bengross> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[08:52] <bengross> /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)
[08:52] <bengross> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[08:52] <bengross> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[08:53] <duce> bengross - man mount - for example mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows -t ntfs
[08:53] <BlankB> bengross: dont copy paste here use a pastebin
[08:53] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea on how to get java working?
[08:53] <Juerd> BlankB: It could be that before, you had a driver that didn't support your hardware well, and your system was performing sub-optimal because of that
[08:53] <Juerd> BlankB: And now, you have a driver that lets your hardware perform the way it is supposed to, but your hardware appears to be unable to handle it
[08:54] <Juerd> BlankB: Or, something broke in recent kernels.
[08:54] <bengross> whats a pastebin
[08:54] <BlankB> The thing that makes it odd is that those tests were dont on a firewire drive. So I am not sure what hardware to look at.
[08:54] <BlankB> bengross: see the /topic of the channel http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[08:54] <Juerd> bengross: A web application where you can store a small snippet of text, so that others can see it too.
[08:55] <duce> bengross -  | Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:55] <Juerd> bengross: It allows you to share configuration and output, without having to flood a chat channel with lots of lines.
[08:55] <Chambers`> so hey, how do i get to the new kde software screen that the site was talking about?
[08:55] <Juerd> Chambers`: "the site"?
[08:56] <Chambers`> yeah, kubuntu's site
[08:56] <Juerd> Chambers`: The site, including wiki, is huge. What page?
[08:56] <bengross> i did this stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:56] <jagodragon> can any one help me with java plugins
[08:57] <Chambers`> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release.php
[08:57] <Chambers`> the kde system settings is supposed to be different
[08:58] <Juerd> Chambers`: There's a system button in the task bar area
[08:58] <Juerd> Chambers`: Click it and choose "Settings"
[08:58] <gdh> Chambers`: Hm, yes I did think that - when in fact all I get in 'settings' is the settings:/ URL in Konq
[08:59] <gdh> showing text-based category browsing
[08:59] <gdh> hardly a technology leap :)
[08:59] <conn> is there a way to remove ALL the packages that are install from "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[08:59] <jrattner1> I'm also having trouble with removable media, when I insert my jump drive  a page in conqueror comes up saying: The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[08:59] <Chambers`> heh, looks the same to me :P  it is the original Ubuntu that has a settings similar to MacOSX?
[09:00] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea for getting Sun java to work?
[09:00] <Sgep> Is it now feasible to upgrade to breezy w/ apt-get?
[09:00] <BlankB> sgep: make a backup first. 8)
[09:00] <bengross> that worked thanks
[09:01] <Sgep> Hmm?
[09:01] <Chambers`> ok, the test..to see if transferring songs to my ipod works
[09:01] <Sgep> hi slick
[09:01] <slick> hi
[09:01] <slick> I got a question
[09:02] <slick> how do you show the sidebar for konquer
[09:02] <slick> the sidebar I am talking about is the one with buttons such as apps, histroy, etc... I installed kmetabar but I have no clue how to show the sidebar
[09:03] <Juerd> slick: F9
[09:03] <slick> well that was quick
[09:03] <slick> thanks
[09:04] <Juerd> You're welcome
[09:04] <Chambers`> grr
[09:04] <conn> hey, I installed kubuntu breezy but when I installed firefox, there was a problem with the theme (it does not respect the kde or gtk settings).. for example, visiting www.google.com shows ugly buttons and radio buttons that don't belong to the theme. Any idea how to fix this?
[09:04] <frank23> conn: you want to revert to kubuntu-desktop only?
[09:04] <Chambers`> says access denied when trying to transfer songs to my ipod
[09:05] <conn> frank23: yes, I installed ubuntu-desktop because I wanted to test the font settings in gnome, but now I don't want to keep the ubuntu packages, just go back to the standard kubuntu install
[09:05] <tenco> Juerd: acroread does it right
[09:06] <frank23> conn: the only way I know how to do that is to ininstall some gtklibs to get rid of all GNOME programs and then reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <hussam> do I need to keep xpdf for kpdf to function? Does Kpdf require xpdf?
[09:06] <Juerd> conn: See apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <da_bon_bon> i need to get rid of gnome .. how do i do that ?
[09:06] <Juerd> conn: That shows the packages it consists of (depends on)
[09:06] <Juerd> conn: Remove those.
[09:06] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: Same as conn
[09:07] <da_bon_bon> Juerd: remove each and every one by one ?
[09:07] <conn> Juerd ad frank23, thanks. I'll check the dependencies and remove that way
[09:07] <bengross> im downloading madwifi but the file is huge
[09:07] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: All that you want gone.
[09:07] <da_bon_bon> cant do i --remove-with-deps ?
[09:07] <bengross> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10_2.6.10.5.orig.tar.gz
[09:07] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: I do not know
[09:07] <frank23> bengross: madwifi comes with ubuntu
[09:08] <da_bon_bon> Juerd: someone told me to remove libgtk -- but that removes gaim and firefox too :(
[09:08] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: Don't do that.
[09:08] <frank23> da_bon_bon: well if you don't mind redownloading stuff, yuo can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[09:09] <da_bon_bon> ok..
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> would i be better of doing a clean kubuntu install ?
[09:10] <jrattner1> how do i restart the kicker
[09:10] <frank23> da_bon_bon: its not necessary. after you install kubuntu-desktop, it will be like a fresh install
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> ok.
[09:11] <frank23> da_bon_bon: although if you have dialup, do the fresh install ;-)
[09:11] <Juerd> jrattner1: First, kill it. (ctrl+alt+esc, then click on kicker)
[09:11] <humbolt> can I run into trouble if I setup postfix as my private smtp server and use it for mail delivery, while I am behind a NATing Router?
[09:11] <Juerd> jrattner1: Then, start it again. (alt+f2, type "kicker")
[09:11] <da_bon_bon> lol, frank23 
[09:11] <humbolt> and how is that if I just use the sendmail command?
[09:11] <Chambers`> hey guys, any idea when transfering songs to my ipod I get an access denid error?
[09:11] <jrattner1> sounds good
[09:11] <da_bon_bon> frank23: i am on breezy .. but server are so slow that i will do it on sunday only
[09:11] <Juerd> jrattner1: Not all applets and icons may come back.
[09:11] <m0ns00n> Eveningf
[09:12] <frank23> da_bon_bon: yeah servers will be slow for a few days
[09:12] <Juerd> jrattner1: If that is a problem, restart KDE 
[09:12] <humbolt> Chambers: type in mount and ls -l the dir you mounted the ipod to
[09:12] <humbolt> Chambers: check the permissions
[09:13] <conn> Juerd: I figuerd apt-get remove gnome* would do roughly the equivalent, the elected packages for removal seemed correct
[09:13] <bengross> i cant find madwifi
[09:13] <Chambers`> drwx------  5 thom thom 4096 2008-12-26 21:42 iPod_Control
[09:13] <Chambers`> here's the wierd part
[09:13] <frank23> bengross: its included in linux-restricted-modules
[09:13] <frank23> bengross: why did you want to download it?
[09:13] <Chambers`> -rwx------  1 thom thom  296 2004-12-29 18:24 WMPInfo.xml
[09:14] <Chambers`> so i have access to it
[09:14] <Chambers`> don't know why it gives me an error
[09:14] <Juerd> conn: It's not entirely the same. Not all packages begin with gnome
[09:14] <Chambers`> btw, typing ipod:/ on konq says ipod can't be found :/
[09:14] <slick> how do you launch katapult?
[09:15] <bengross> madwifi for my wifii driver?
[09:15] <conn> Juerd: yes but it removes the base gnome packages, and packages that relied on that are removed too.. for example, vino, gaim, nautilus - they were all selected 
[09:16] <frank23> bengross: do lsmod | grep ath    and if ath_pci is there, you already have the module loaded
[09:17] <Chambers`> any ideas?  Is my fstab entry correct?
[09:17] <frank23> bengross: I have an atheros chipset (that uses madwifi) and I didn't have to configure anything to get my card working
[09:17] <Chambers`> This is my fstab - /dev/sda        /media/ipod     vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:18] <Chambers`> i don't know why it's not working
[09:18] <bengross> why isnt it the same for me?
[09:19] <Chambers`> maybe i need to format it first?
[09:19] <frank23> bengross: I mean the hardware was working automatically, I still needed to configure the network myself
[09:19] <bengross> ok how do i configure the network?
[09:19] <Chambers`> no one in here with an ipod?
[09:19] <Sgep> Can the breezy install CD be used to upgrade?
[09:19] <frank23> bengross: what did lsmod | grep ath give you?
[09:20] <frank23> bengross: System Settings -> Network Settings -> Administrator mode
[09:21] <frank23> If you have an atheros chip in your card, you should see ath0 in the Interface list
[09:21] <libben> how do i check what dvd burner i have
[09:21] <libben> want a command
[09:21] <Juerd> libben: cdrecord -scanbus
[09:21] <Girth> hi can someone help with a problem i have with kde su root access?
[09:21] <Juerd> Girth: State the problem. You'll find out if we're able to help.
[09:22] <Juerd> Chambers`: Shouldn't it be sda1 instead of sda?
[09:22] <da_bon_bon> lol, Juerd 
[09:22] <reagle> FRACK. hosed my partitions cause 5.10 won't install "Unable to install initrd tools"
[09:22] <bengross> wireless?
[09:22] <reagle> 5.04 doesn't have this problem
[09:22] <Juerd> reagle: Were you installing from cd?
[09:23] <Girth> ok i have just installed latest breezy. i need to set up static ip address. when i try admin mode button i get eirther kde su error "su returned with an error"
[09:23] <reagle> juerd, yes
[09:23] <Chambers`> when i do mount it says sda2
[09:23] <Juerd> reagle: Did you download that cd? Have you checked if the cd was right using the md5sum?
[09:23] <bengross> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393745
[09:23] <Juerd> reagle: What do you mean by "hosed"?
[09:23] <reagle> juerd, k3b gave me a check before burning
[09:23] <Juerd> reagle: Using the md5sum?
[09:24] <gurumeditationer> is there any disadvantage to installing ubuntu then installing kubuntu-desktop compared to installing kubuntu from a kubuntu cd?
[09:24] <reagle> Juerd: i mean i'm gonna have a lot of work to do tonrestore my home partition
[09:24] <Girth> or a "conversation failed" erropr
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: Have you tested the cd after burning as well?
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: What does it mean, technically?
[09:24] <bengross> did u get that
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: There is an application that can guess partition tables, based on patterns found on the drive.
[09:24] <reagle> juerd, so i suppose i should check it again
[09:24] <frank23> bengross: yeah I have exactly the same thing
[09:24] <bengross> okay cool
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: It is called gpart, and it is on the KNOPPIX live cd.
[09:24] <bengross> i have tried administrator winfi didnt help
[09:25] <Chambers`> ok, i get an error
[09:25] <Chambers`> could not mount device
[09:25] <reagle> Juerd: lost cause since i've done so many f'd installs now
[09:25] <Juerd> gurumeditationer: Yes, it gives you gnome.
[09:25] <Chambers`> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/sda1
[09:25] <reagle> just would lik to get 5.10 now.
[09:25] <frank23> do you see ath0 in the interfaces in network settings?
[09:25] <Juerd> gurumeditationer: Which isn't a problem, but leaves the system a little bloated.
[09:25] <reagle> how to check md5sum of a cd?
[09:25] <Juerd> gurumeditationer: You can remove it manually, but it's some work.
[09:26] <Juerd> reagle: md5sum /dev/hdc (or whatever cd device)
[09:26] <Juerd> reagle: Compare the output to the md5 file that you downloaded along with the iso
[09:26] <Chambers`> but i can still go to /media/ipod
[09:26] <Juerd> Or should have downloaded
[09:26] <Chambers`> what the heck?
[09:26] <Juerd> (It's not too late)
[09:26] <Juerd> Chambers`: Until something is mounted there, it's just a normal directory.
[09:27] <Chambers`> but it shows the ipod contents
[09:27] <satafterh> we need more seeds for the dvdiso
[09:27] <Juerd> Chambers`: Then it is mounted. See the output of mount
[09:27] <satafterh> if you have it share it people
[09:27] <Chambers`> but it gives me an error
[09:28] <frank23> bengross: do you see ath0 in the interfaces in network settings?
[09:28] <Chambers`> no one has an ipod here and got it working?  I'd like to know what their fstab entries are
[09:28] <bengross> yes
[09:29] <bengross> i click enable and it turns off again
[09:29] <frank23> then select it and configure interface
[09:29] <bengross> ok what do i type there
[09:30] <frank23> what do you about your router? is encryption enabled?
[09:31] <bengross> no encryption
[09:32] <frank23> bengross: do you know the ssid? (the network name)
[09:32] <jagodragon> are there a specific package to download for java?
[09:33] <m0ns00n> Yes
[09:33] <bengross> network name? i dont think theere is one
[09:33] <m0ns00n> Just take the jdk
[09:33] <m0ns00n> It includes the jre
[09:33] <m0ns00n> Which is the run time environment that's needed for java apps and the plugin
[09:33] <jagodragon> thanks
[09:33] <m0ns00n> No
[09:33] <m0ns00n> :-)
[09:34] <m0ns00n> If you need help installing the plugin for mozilla/konq/firefox just ask
[09:34] <jagodragon> thanks
[09:34] <m0ns00n> ;-)
[09:34] <Sgep> Hi all
[09:34] <bengross> shouldnt need a network name
[09:34] <m0ns00n> hi
[09:34] <Sgep> Can I make the apt-get go faster/
[09:34] <Sgep> Or somehow use the Install CD?
[09:35] <bengross> what should i type in for network name
[09:35] <Sgep> Hi mrmarcel 
[09:35] <frank23> bengross: its a setting in the router.  I think you need to know that. kwifimanager can scan for networs if you don't know
[09:35] <Sgep> hi rodrigo 
[09:37] <Sgep> Hi roman
[09:37] <roman> Hello here!
[09:37] <bengross> i got rid of the name
[09:37] <bengross> now its working
[09:37] <bengross> :)
[09:37] <bengross> thanks
[09:38] <mrmarcel> Hi Sgep :)
[09:38] <roman> is KDE 3.4.3 available for hoary?
[09:38] <frank23> bengross: what did you do?
[09:39] <Sgep> How do I get the apt-get to go faster?
[09:39] <bengross> hey
[09:39] <bengross> it detected it
[09:39] <Mez> roman, for breezy, yes
[09:39] <Sgep> Or can I somehow use the InstallCD?
[09:39] <bengross> but wont stay conected on the control module
[09:39] <roman> but not for hoary?
[09:40] <Corvus> roman, it's available for hoary too
[09:40] <laszlok> jagodragon: Just the 1.4 runtime?
[09:42] <roman> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main
[09:42] <roman> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main
[09:42] <roman> Do I get 3.4.3 if I change the number in my sources.list record deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main ??
[09:43] <evilmegaman> anyone hava any Idea on getting sun's JRE to work? I installed the .bin in /usr/java But when I do java --version the output says gij...
[09:43] <roman> Sorry for the mess, that's Ctrl+V in Konversation...
[09:43] <Sgep> Can I upgrade via the install CD?
[09:43] <Sgep> hiep
[09:44] <Chambers`> what a joke
[09:45] <Chambers`> i open up system system settings -> disk and file systems
[09:45] <Chambers`> click on administrator mode
[09:45] <Chambers`> put in my password (since root doesn't exist)
[09:45] <Chambers`> nothing
[09:45] <Chambers`> goes back to the screen where i can't do anything
[09:46] <Chambers`> so how the heck am i supposed to get administrative privledges?
[09:46] <frank23> Chambers`: it does work for me
[09:46] <Chambers`> this is a clean install
[09:46] <Chambers`> like half hour ago
[09:46] <ubuntu> hi
[09:46] <frank23> Chambers`: you can try kdesu kcontrol  
[09:46] <jagodragon> just the 1.4 runtime? what do you mean
[09:47] <Chambers`> yes i can, but it should work the other way too
[09:48] <Chambers`> and, for some reason it tries to mount my ipod to /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 at the same time...when the disk and filesystem says it's on /dev/sda
[09:48] <frank23> Chambers`: I know... hoary also had problems of this kind: going to administrator mode. I think its related to the fact that ubuntu uses sudo instead of root account
[09:49] <Chambers`> i was having problems with my ipod in Suse 10, was hoping Kubuntu would fix..but there are even more problems :(
[09:49] <Chambers`> you'd think if they had problems like this before they would address them
[09:49] <frank23> Chambers`: file bug reports. Its the only way :-)
[09:49] <Chambers`> what's the point on Bug reporting if they don't address the issue?
[09:50] <Sgep> Can I get apt-get to skip a download once it started?
[09:50] <Chambers`> you said they knew about it...but it's still not fixed
[09:50] <Chambers`> :( guess i'm going back to suse :(  so frustrating
[09:50] <Chambers`> why doesn't this stuff just work..hehe
[09:50] <frank23> Chambers`: At least I think they knew. 
[09:50] <Chambers`> or at least keep it in testing longer
[09:51] <frank23> Sgep: you can use ctrl-C to stop apt-get
[09:51] <m0ns00n> back
[09:51] <Sgep> Then how do I prevent the upgrade of that package
[09:52] <Sgep> And will apt-get resume where it was?
[09:52] <frank23> Sgep: for the download, yes it will resume
[09:52] <py> hi
[09:52] <frank23> Speg: what do you mean prevent the upgrade?
[09:53] <py> where can i find audio/video codecs fore breezy badger ?
[09:54] <frank23> py http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:55] <frank23> Sgep: then don't install vegastrike
[09:55] <Chambers`> grrr
[09:55] <Sgep> How?
[09:55] <Sgep> It's alreay installed, but I don't want it upgraded
[09:55] <frank23> Sgep: oh... 
[09:56] <Sgep> Is there a way to upgrade w/ the CD?
[09:56] <frank23> You can lock a package to a specific version but I only know how to do it with synaptic
[09:56] <frank23> Sgep: yes if you add the cd to your sources.list  but I don't know what that line is
[09:57] <evilmegaman> Does kubuntu come with python 2.4 or 2.3?
[09:57] <roman> Corvus: how can I get kde 3.4.3 for hoary then?
[09:58] <frank23> evilmegaman: 2.4 by default but 2.3 is in the repos as well
[09:58] <evilmegaman> okay thanks frank23 :)
[09:59] <Corvus> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/hoary-kde343 hoary main
[10:00] <orugo> i!
[10:00] <orugo> hi
[10:00] <lwells> HI all
[10:00] <orugo> i've got the new 5.10
[10:00] <orugo> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[10:01] <lwells> I am trying to get Kubuntu through bittorrent
[10:01] <orugo> bittorrent
[10:01] <orugo> NAH
[10:01] <orugo> download from internet!
[10:01] <gath> hello
[10:01] <lwells> I am tryting that too, so slowwwww
[10:01] <orugo>  imean
[10:01] <orugo> from http
[10:01] <orugo> oh
[10:01] <orugo> i have a 256k connection... so its always slow :P
[10:01] <orugo> hahaa
[10:02] <gath> is there any program available to show incoming mail
[10:02] <lwells> I have Cable and it says 2 days
[10:02] <gath> like korn
[10:02] <orugo> gath theres a lot of programs
[10:02] <orugo> do you have kubuntu?
[10:02] <gath> yes
[10:02] <lwells> me?
[10:02] <orugo> look in kynaptic
[10:03] <gath> i used korn in kanotix
[10:03] <gath> kynaptic?
[10:03] <orugo> i think korn is available in kubuntu too
[10:03] <orugo> maybe slipknot, haha
[10:03] <orugo> emm
[10:03] <roman> Corvus: thanks, the word "packages" was added so my sources.list broke. Getting my new KDE ...
[10:03] <orugo> kynaptic and synaptic are the packages manager
[10:04] <gath> i tried to get korn over apt, but it doesn`t work
[10:04] <orugo> oh
[10:04] <Juagar> how to play .mp3 files?
[10:04] <orugo> i dont know... i dont use pop3 mail :P
[10:04] <orugo> sry
[10:04] <Juagar> amarok says I need some codecs
[10:04] <orugo> codecs?
[10:04] <Juagar> I don't know
[10:04] <gath> korn depends on kdelibs4 
[10:04] <Juagar> I can't play any media
[10:05] <Juagar> no films no mp3
[10:05] <orugo> hey
[10:05] <orugo> i have to change my repos in synaptic?
[10:05] <frank23> Juagar: get kaffeine-xine, w32codecs for movies and change the engine in the kaffeine settings
[10:05] <kkathman> greets again all :)
[10:05] <gath> orugo: kynaptic also depends on kdelibs4
[10:05] <orugo> when i switchetd from 5.04 to 5.10
[10:06] <Juagar> where can I find w32codecs?
[10:06] <frank23> http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:06] <Juagar> I think aren't in kynaptics
[10:06] <gath> and libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.9
[10:06] <Juagar> and for mp3?
[10:06] <icke> howdy
[10:06] <orugo> hey juagar
[10:06] <gath> and libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3)
[10:06] <orugo> whats http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:06] <gath> what can i do?
[10:07] <orugo> i dont know :( im not a really expert user :(
[10:07] <frank23> Juagar: get gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3
[10:08] <Juagar> I've it
[10:08] <robert2005> Hi! amd64-k8 nvidia kernel stuff is brocken amd64-generic works .. is this bug already know?
[10:08] <robert2005> n
[10:08] <frank23> orugo: you can get the .deb for w32codecs there
[10:08] <Juagar> but i don't know what happens
[10:08] <icke> even mijn session restarten
[10:08] <Juagar> I've got w32codecs
[10:08] <icke> oops
[10:08] <orugo> i dont need them :P
[10:08] <icke> wrong channel
[10:08] <frank23> Juagar: do you have kaffeine-xine?   gstreamer is not good for videos
[10:09] <Juagar> I want for mp3 as well
[10:09] <orugo> i had souind problems in 5.04 but now in 5.10 it works PERFECT
[10:09] <Juagar> now I can hear the film but i can't watch ir
[10:09] <orugo> :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[10:09] <Juagar> it
[10:09] <Juagar> I'm going to try kaffeine-xine
[10:10] <orugo> hey
[10:10] <frank23> Juagar: you have to change a setting in kaffeine to tell it to use xine also
[10:10] <orugo> i need help with the repos
[10:10] <orugo> in 5.10 what repos i have to change?
[10:10] <Juagar> ok
[10:10] <orugo> i mean i still having HOARY repos
[10:11] <frank23> orugo: you change hoary for breezy everywhere (except hoary-extras)
[10:11] <frank23> !tell orugo about upgrade2breezy
[10:11] <kkathman> orugo:  look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:12] <MEtaLpREs> whats the easiest way to recompile your kernel?
[10:12] <MEtaLpREs> i need to recompile it using a newer version of gcc to get this app to work properly
[10:13] <Juagar> ok, now I can watch films
[10:13] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: aren't kernels always compiled with gcc 2.95 ?
[10:13] <kkathman> good day frank23, btw :)
[10:13] <orugo> tks a lot
[10:13] <Juagar> frank23, but i haven't change anything
[10:13] <frank23> Juagar: as long as it works
[10:13] <MEtaLpREs> mine is compiled using 3.4.5
[10:14] <Juagar> I didn't the chance to change to xine engine
[10:14] <MEtaLpREs> but i need it compiled using 4.0.2
[10:14] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: you're right, its not 2.95 
[10:14] <Juagar> I just have keffeine and kaffeine-gstreamer engines
[10:14] <chx> hi all
[10:14] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: why do you need it comiled with 4.0.2? is it for vmware?
[10:14] <Juagar> but I've installed kaffeine-xine....
[10:14] <MEtaLpREs> yes
[10:15] <chx> What files writes out the text (Kubuntu ...) before login on ctrl+alt+f1?
[10:15] <frank23> Juagar: the kaffeine one is actually kaffeine-xine
[10:15] <Juagar> ahhh
[10:15] <Juagar> ok
[10:15] <Juagar> thanx
[10:16] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: install gcc-3.4  then  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  then run the configuration script
[10:16] <chx>  /etc/issue
[10:16] <chx> I see.
[10:16] <DarkSeid> hello folks
[10:16] <DarkSeid> got me a problem
[10:16] <DarkSeid> wonder if anyone else experienced it
[10:16] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:16] <DarkSeid> upgraded from Hoary to Breezy w/ apt-get and now my USB is fubar
[10:17] <elvirolo> how do i enable musicbrainz support in amarok ?
[10:17] <DarkSeid> doesn't even mount the USB devices
[10:17] <DarkSeid> but it works fine under Gnome
[10:17] <Juagar> Amarok:some media could not be loaded (not playable)
[10:17] <Juagar> why the hell
[10:17] <DarkSeid> any ideaS?
[10:17] <Juagar> I've installed gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:17] <DarkSeid> digikam and kamera dont see the device at all
[10:18] <elvirolo> Juagar: have you tried recently to play a cd with amarok?
[10:18] <Juagar> not a cd
[10:18] <DarkSeid> konqueror doesn't show it mounted either
[10:18] <Juagar> an mp3 file
[10:18] <DarkSeid> yet it works fine under Gnome
[10:18] <Juagar> I've installed today my kubuntu 5.10
[10:18] <tenco> what was wrong with breezy preview? i updated to the preview a few days ago and everything was fine. now i updated to breezy final and my kubuntu system is unuseable! wlan doesnt work anymore and X is slow like hell!
[10:19] <DarkSeid> tenco tell me about it
[10:19] <DarkSeid> I should have stayed with Hoary
[10:19] <DarkSeid> and just used the backports
[10:19] <Riddell> hal fix is people want to test it out http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase-kio-plugins_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[10:19] <evilmegaman> what is a good bittorrent client that doesn't need gtk because I get an error about gtk when I use the regular one...
[10:20] <frank23> tenco: that's pretty shitty.
[10:20] <kkathman> I have noticed that KDE is a bit slower also, but for some unknown reason..other than that, everything is working fine for me
[10:20] <DarkSeid> USB devices are borked for some reason in Kubuntu
[10:20] <Juagar> what should I install to play .mp3 files with amarok? I've tryed gstreamer0.8-mad and doesn't works
[10:21] <elvirolo> Juagar: go in the peripherals tab
[10:21] <elvirolo> Juagar: no sry the filesystem tab
[10:21] <elvirolo> yeah i have many issues with breezy too
[10:21] <elvirolo> evilmegaman: ktorrent
[10:21] <elvirolo> any ideas about my prob ?
[10:21] <DarkSeid> I am playing mp3's right now with Amarok
[10:21] <elvirolo> Juagar: use xine, it's much better
[10:21] <tenco> DarkSeid: the mouse pointer moves sluggisch with a great lag and i dont know whats the problem with the wlan, the interfaces config file wasnt touched
[10:21] <frank23> Juagar: there is also an amarok-xine package
[10:21] <Kejk_PL> Juagar: you have to change engine to gstreamer in options too
[10:21] <tenco> *sluggish
[10:21] <evilmegaman> okay elvirolo, is there any ones that also have a trackerless feature like DHT and stuff?
[10:21] <Juagar> I'm gonna try
[10:22] <DarkSeid> tenco I feel your pain bro
[10:22] <elvirolo> evilmegaman: i don't know but i doubt it
[10:22] <DarkSeid> I had to install Gnome 
[10:22] <DarkSeid> so I could use the GDM
[10:22] <evilmegaman> ok thanks :)
[10:22] <DarkSeid> KDM was hosing up
[10:22] <tenco> german language pack for kdevelop is missing, too
[10:22] <Juagar> kejk_PL: I've the gstreamer engine 
[10:23] <DarkSeid> and now with USB support borked it seems its a bit more than X and some minor issues
[10:23] <DarkSeid> I switch over to Gnome and X is fine and fast, USB works
[10:23] <DarkSeid> kill the session and start a session in K and borked
[10:23] <MPC> is any concensus observation emerging here? ... watching #kubuntu and #ubuntu, is it safe to conclude that there are a LOT of problems with this new Breezy version? ... or is this just normal hardware issues volume?
[10:23] <Riddell> DarkSeid: I just posted the fix for USB support, testers would be good
[10:24] <tenco> seems to me like the transition from 3.4.2 -> 3.4.3 is the problem
[10:24] <DarkSeid> ok downloaded and installing now
[10:24] <Riddell> killall kded && kded  after install
[10:24] <tenco> Riddell: would test it, if my wlan would still work
[10:25] <tenco> Riddell: no net connection -> no testing
[10:25] <VR^> hey all, i burned 3 ISOs, all of which didn't work, i checked the md5sum on every one of them, burned at 2x speed, and yet, i couldnt install... i even burned some other stuff with the same cds and everything went well.
[10:25] <VR^> i'm at my wits end
[10:26] <VR^> i burned them with gnomebaker
[10:26] <icke> I just updated my Breezy Preview to 'normal' Breezy but i can not find Guidance; Where can i find it / how to run i?
[10:26] <icke> it*?
[10:26] <MEtaLpREs> what is the directory that has the C header files?
[10:27] <DarkSeid> Riddell "killall kded && kded"?
[10:27] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: for the kernel? I think the default is fine but you need linux-headers installes
[10:28] <MEtaLpREs> the default directory its giving me doesn't exsist
[10:28] <Juagar> ok amarok-xine works perfectly!
[10:28] <Juagar> thanks for all
[10:28] <MEtaLpREs> i dont have /usr/src/linux
[10:28] <Juagar> :D
[10:28] <Riddell> DarkSeid: that's what you need to run after install
[10:28] <DarkSeid> well then it doesn't work
[10:28] <DarkSeid> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[10:28] <DarkSeid> Aborted
[10:28] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: do you have linux-kernel-headers installed?
[10:29] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea how to get java working using just the official sun .bin installer?
[10:29] <DarkSeid> kaboomk
[10:29] <Riddell> DarkSeid: try just running kded
[10:29] <MEtaLpREs> heh, nope i dont have it installed, i bet thats a good reason
[10:29] <DarkSeid> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[10:29] <DarkSeid> Aborted
[10:30] <DarkSeid> kaboom
[10:30] <Riddell> hmm, not good
[10:30] <DarkSeid> well it isn't any worse than what it was
[10:30] <DarkSeid> LOL
[10:30] <DarkSeid> at least you tried
[10:32] <DarkSeid> well if I have to use the camera I will just switch over to Gnome right quick
[10:32] <DarkSeid> ooh Riddell you also know that the KDM is flakey as all hell?
[10:33] <Riddell> DarkSeid: what's up with it?
[10:34] <DarkSeid> well for one it's an IFFY start
[10:34] <DarkSeid> sometimes it will go to the KDM on boot others it will just die and drop you to a console
[10:35] <evilmegaman> anyone have a clue on how to get java working?
[10:35] <DarkSeid> giving permission errors on Display 0:0
[10:35] <evilmegaman> I have been asking for HOURS
[10:35] <DarkSeid> its a crap shoot to say the least
[10:35] <DarkSeid> 3 out of 5 times it worked for me
[10:35] <DarkSeid> so I switched to the GDM
[10:36] <DarkSeid> thing is I didnt have this problem with the RCs
[10:36] <DarkSeid> last week 5.10 was stable as all hell
[10:36] <DarkSeid> then I did the upgrade to the final and its just blech
[10:40] <Russel-Athletic> mhhh i have a problem with katapult: in the livecd (beta 1) i had an icon and i coul configure katapult with it, but the icon is now gone (kubuntu rc1 install; now uptodate)
[10:40] <ep> Which insturctions should I follow for nvidia 3d drivers? How about method given in the unofficial ubuntu guide?  That seem simple enough.
[10:40] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[10:40] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:41] <ep> thanks
[10:42] <Russel-Athletic> somebody a solution?
[10:45] <Riddell> apokryphos: control-c
[10:45] <apokryphos> aha, thanks.
[10:45] <Riddell> Russel-Athletic: alt+space  control-c
[10:45] <Russel-Athletic> thx!
[10:46] <Riddell> which is ugly I know
[10:47] <Russel-Athletic> but why is the default behaviour not in tray?
[10:47] <apokryphos> Russel-Athletic: no point in having it there, really
[10:47] <apokryphos> it should function as an alternate to alt+f2, if you think about it (but better, of course).
[10:47] <apokryphos> it's not something we'd really ever want closed
[10:48] <Russel-Athletic> no but you want to configure it sometimes and don't run to the maintainer everytime you don't remember the right shortcut
[10:49] <apokryphos> there'll probably be a handbook for it soon
[10:49] <Russel-Athletic> ok...
[10:49] <Russel-Athletic> (i led it stay in tray for now :D)
[10:49] <apokryphos> though it would be nice to have an easily accessible config option, I guess
[10:49] <Russel-Athletic> perhaps a systemsettings module...
[10:52] <apokryphos> an option, no doubt
[10:52] <Russel-Athletic> mhhh i just imagine a "konqueror-plugin": you type a location (of course with tab-completion) and the file is opened with it's default programm
[10:52] <Russel-Athletic> that would be really nice
[10:53] <Juerd> Russel-Athletic: Hit alt+spacebar
[10:53] <Mekonikum> moin
[10:53] <Juerd> Oh, nevermind
[10:54] <Juerd> I was lagging behind
[10:55] <Russel-Athletic> nice!
[10:55] <Russel-Athletic> need a bit to know how to do a completion
[10:55] <RezDawg> anyone else have problems with firefox after going to 5.10?
[10:55] <Riddell> Russel-Athletic: it needs an arrow on it that brings up the menu when clicked is all
[10:56] <Juerd> RezDawg: Can you be a little less specific?
[10:57] <Juerd> I think not.
[10:57] <RezDawg> sorry. I cant get firefox to run at all since I upgraded to breezy
[10:57] <djib> hey
[10:57] <Juerd> That's clearer
[10:57] <Juerd> What do you get if you try to run it?
[10:57] <djib> what packages do you need to install under breezy to be able to play mp3 files ?
[10:57] <RezDawg> it says its malformatted. so i uninstalled it and then reinstalled but still no luck
[10:58] <RezDawg> I made sure to update all the packages before doing so
[10:58] <frank23> RezDawg: try mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[11:04] <jrattner1> What is thiis /uisr/share/ubuntu artwork error and how do i fix it
[11:05] <slow-motion> n8
[11:06] <icke> how do i run/find guidance?
[11:11] <_john> hello
[11:11] <_john> I have a question I hope someone can help me with
[11:12] <Juerd> Ask it
[11:13] <poimen> I downloaded both and burned the isos upto speed in my 40x cd-rw and I get in both a error in the install about files not being eble to install in the HD should I burn them in a slower speed??
[11:13] <poimen> I am talking about kubuntu iso
[11:13] <poimen> and ubuntu one
[11:13] <_john> alright I plug my ipod in and konqueror pops up and says An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1:
[11:14] <strike4ce> How do I clear my history in kubuntu?
[11:14] <_john> The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist.
[11:14] <_john> it worked before then it started giving me that
[11:16] <_john> any idea on how I might fix this?
[11:16] <RezDawg> !ubotu tell RezDawg about java
[11:17] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[11:18] <_john> Can anyone please help me?
[11:20] <icke> how do i run/find guidance?
[11:20] <gath> hello
[11:20] <gath> mp3`s on amarok doesn`t run, why not?
[11:21] <icke> Kubuntu doesnt have mp3 support out of the box
[11:21] <_john> can anyone help me with my ipod problem
[11:21] <gath> and how i get support?
[11:22] <arafat> i am setting up a dual bott system at the moment (winxp and kubuntu)... on whihc partition do i have the bootable flag to set? winxp partition or /boot ?
[11:22] <Juerd> What is the default user name in kubuntu?
[11:22] <Juerd> I know what password I typed :)
[11:24] <icke> gath:  you need a package
[11:24] <_john> doh seem to have hit a wall here
[11:24] <gath> which package?
[11:24] <gath> over apt?
[11:24] <icke> dunno exactly, but i am searching
[11:25] <icke> you can download it via apt yes (or via Kynaptic/Synaptic)
[11:25] <_john> nstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine.
[11:25] <_john> for mp3
[11:25] <Juerd> Why is ubuntu back to grub?
[11:25] <Juerd> I was glad it used lilo
[11:26] <icke> [23:25:42]  <_john> nstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine. <- you may need to edit your source.list file
[11:26] <Corvus> when has ubuntu used lilo by default ?
[11:27] <strike4ce> Why is my address bar in Konqueror and Firefox so small?
[11:27] <strike4ce> How do I adjust?
[11:27] <_john> come on someone gotta know how to help a guy out here
[11:27] <_john> lol
[11:28] <Juerd> Corvus: At the time I installed it on my laptop
[11:28] <Juerd> Corvus: A month or so ago
[11:32] <strike4ce> Why is my address bar so small in Konqueror and firefoz?
[11:33] <Tallia1-KubuntU> upgrading to breezy... i hope everything will be ok
[11:33] <Tallia1-KubuntU> :P
[11:33] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i'll let you know :D
[11:33] <Tm_T> ok
[11:35] <strike4ce> Why is my address bar so small in Konqueror and firefoz?????????????????
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> WOW 1400 file to download
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> this is a big upgrade :D
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> and will take long time too........ 6 hours
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> .. :P
[11:38] <_john> can anyone help me with a ipod problem?
[11:39] <leveldoc> _john: what's the deal, maybe I can help
[11:40] <_john> I plug my ipod in and get a An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1
[11:40] <_john> The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exis
[11:41] <_john> and sometimes its sdb2 instead
[11:41] <leveldoc> _john: I'm sorry, I don't know about this. Maybe the wiki could help?
[11:42] <_john> I found something on one of the fourms it worked before I updated to kde then it went all poopie lol
[11:42] <leveldoc> :-)
[11:42] <leveldoc> I've never tried to connect my iPod to Kubuntu, I have another PC where it's usually connected to, I run ubuntu there.
[11:43] <_john> seems a few others have has the same problem tho
[11:43] <leveldoc> it's works like a charm under ubuntu
[11:43] <leveldoc> open up a thread on the forums then, shouldn't take too long to get it fixed
[11:43] <_john> when I was just  running gnome it worked
[11:43] <_john> but kde is being funky
[11:43] <leveldoc> now you got me curious! :-) I should try it with kde then...
[11:44] <VR^> what would i need to get, after my server install is done,  to get a gui?
[11:44] <_john> heheit worked and I was all like yes I got everything done
[11:44] <leveldoc> (k)ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <_john> then my ipod crapped out
[11:44] <_john> lol
[11:44] <VR^> leveldoc: does that install a whole bunch of other stuff?
[11:44] <VR^> like office, etc
[11:45] <leveldoc> VR^: take a look at packages.ubuntu.com and look at the dependencies
[11:45] <VR^> and also, don't i need x?
[11:45] <VR^> leveldoc: thanks
[11:45] <leveldoc> it should install everything you need
[11:45] <VR^> ok
[11:45] <leveldoc> u'r welcome
[11:45] <VR^> i just wanted to try a minimal configuration
[11:45] <leveldoc> try XFCE then
[11:46] <VR^> i did, but i don't know if i can run gnome/kde programs under xfce
[11:46] <leveldoc> apt-get should figure the part with X out on it's own... :-)
[11:46] <leveldoc> sure you can
[11:46] <leveldoc> it all depends if you have the necessary libraries installed, and usually apt-get takes good care that they are. :-)
[11:47] <VR^> i see
[11:47] <VR^> so i would not need to worry about x
[11:47] <leveldoc> I don't think so.
[11:47] <VR^> but someone told me i'd need to start it manually, startx xfce for example
[11:48] <leveldoc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/xfce4
[11:48] <leveldoc> well, if you don't install something like kdm or gdm, you will have to do so, I guess.
[11:48] <VR^> i see
[11:49] <leveldoc> but I don't know if apt-get lets you install a complete desktop without a graphical login manager
[11:49] <VR^> that's kinda risky though, i dont think id know the multiverse repo urls by heart
[11:49] <leveldoc> so, worst case would be that you would have to add gdm or kdm after xfc4
[11:49] <VR^> ok
[11:49] <gath> hello
[11:49] <leveldoc> it's in the universe repo, should be safe to install.
[11:50] <VR^> ok
[11:50] <leveldoc> gath: hello :-)
[11:50] <gath> i have problems with my usb-sticks
[11:50] <leveldoc> _john knows something about that :-)
[11:50] <Tm_T> Riddell: any knews about hal problem?
[11:50] <gath> when i put it on the computer i get a error-message
[11:51] <gath> Beim Laden von media:/sda1 ist folgender Fehler aufgetreten:
[11:51] <gath> Die Datei oder der Ordner media:/sda1 existiert nicht.
[11:51] <gath> what is wrong?
[11:51] <_john> John knows bout what going to kde?
[11:51] <_john> lol
[11:52] <leveldoc> gath: you've got the same error as _john :-)
[11:52] <VR^> gath: #kubuntu-de
[11:52] <_john> ohhhh the ipod thing
[11:52] <_john> seeeee Im not alone!
[11:52] <VR^> maybe they can helkp
[11:52] <_john> lol
[11:52] <VR^> help*
[11:52] <leveldoc> lol
[11:52] <_john> from what I read its a kde isssue
[11:52] <gath> but it`s only a usb-stick, the same with my card-reader
[11:53] <Tm_T> gath: known issue :(
[11:53] <_john> its a kde bug of some sort not much to read on it
[11:54] <leveldoc> well, I'm gonna take off, have fun
[11:55] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems