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dmkDarthFrog, hehe - there is always a down side ;-)12:00
BlueMatWhere can I get firestarter for breezy, is there a way if enabling extra repos, or do they exist?12:00
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virguleI have a dilemna: kdm or gdm? --please share your thoughs12:00
[216] Shadeygdm12:00
sorush20hi12:00
jeff303feugan3333: well it was weird, not really locked up, like the snow was still blowing in the background12:00
[216] Shadey4 life12:00
virgulegdm:1 kdm:012:00
frank23jeff303: check the transgaming wiki. I think there might be issues with networking on battle.net12:00
jsubl2virgule: if you plan on using gnome -- gdm.. if you plan to use kde kmd12:00
jeff303feugan3333: and games list was updating, but the buttons were greyed out and it never did anything12:00
eduardoCrube: the latest one. Fartsy Badger or whatever12:00
jeff303frank23: thanks12:01
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DarthFrogvirgule: I'd suggest gdm for Ubuntu, kdm for Kubuntu. They're both good.12:01
[216] ShadeyLol12:01
rjordananyone else having probs with steam & CS?12:01
virguleI use both.. I keep switching as my mood change12:01
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othernoobwhich keyboard layout could be used for a generic 105 keys+15multimedia keys keyboard?12:01
[216] Shadeywhen is Ubuntu 6.0 Hairy Beaver coming out?12:01
Crubeeduardo breezy badger that is.12:01
eduardoyea12:01
virgulealright I choose kdm from now on.12:01
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mirakif I set rm as suid, this means any user can erase everything ?12:02
[216] Shadeyyou choose poorly12:02
frank23rjordan: I heard the latest steam update doesn't work in cedega yet12:02
eduardoCrube: aptget gnome also bitches. Is there some special package name?12:02
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mjrmirak, yes. Wouldn't recommend it.12:02
Crubeeduardo try apt-get gdm12:02
feugan3333jeff303: I always blame the emulator :-)12:02
mirakmjr: lol, no of course. I want to put smbmnt as suid12:02
jeff303feugan3333: hah yeah, well frank was right12:02
rjordanfrank23, indeed :(12:02
Supermangwow the official ubuntu repositories are sloooooooooow12:02
eduardoCrube: thanks, thats doing something12:02
jeff303feugan3333: there is an issue because the timeout in linux is different or something12:02
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Supermangdoes BF2 work in cedega?12:02
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madsen_hmm.. I cant install vlc now...12:02
madsen_worked fine on 5,0412:03
feugan3333jeff303: fixable?12:03
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sorush20guys I keep getting this error.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/304512:03
jeff303feugan3333: check out the first bullet under Issues here12:03
nderjm_Anyone had any success with an ATI Rage Mobility P/M graphics card?12:03
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frank23madsen_: vlc works fine here12:03
jeff303feugan3333:   http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Warcraft_III12:03
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BlueMatguys how do i get firestarter for Breezy, is there extra repos I can enable?12:03
jeff303feugan3333: apparently the best solution currently is to kill the wine process externally, kind of messy12:03
sorush20nderjm_: you need to download and install a kernel module just type ATI in the ubuntu wiki12:04
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DarthFrogBlueMat: what repos do you have enabled now?12:04
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arise`evening12:04
Nomikoswhat's best, torrenting ISO or upgrading with apt-get?12:04
sorush20evening arise`12:04
BlueMatDarthFrog, Stable defualts havent touched them..12:04
arise`does anyone know if netgear pci wlan cards work with 5.10?12:04
arise`atheros chipsets12:04
nderjm_sorush20: I have tried the fglrx driver if thats what you are rerering to12:04
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DarthFrogBlueMat: Try universe and multiverse.12:05
frank23Nomikos: I say use apt-get12:05
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Nomikosfrank23: k thanks12:05
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sorush20nderjm_:  are you getting anyerrors12:05
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frank23arise`: I am using  netgear WG311T wight now12:05
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BlueMatDarthFrog, Can you be a bit more precise, is there a wiki page on enabling extras?12:05
nderjm_sorush: when I do a modprobe fglrx I get a device not found error12:06
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[216] Shadeyi <3 wiki12:06
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DarthFrogBlueMat: Use Synaptic.  It's one of the menu options.12:06
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nderjm_sorush: I dont think the driver supports my card12:06
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sorush20that is what I'm getting too but are sure that the driver is supporting your hardware have a look again in synaptic.. it dosen't support all..12:06
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frank23arise`: watch out for the hardware revision. only one of them is atheros, and I forget which one12:06
feugan3333jeff303: I don't really understand the problem, but it's cool to see games working (even if a little buggy at the moment)12:07
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DarthFrogBlueMat: Settings/Repositories in Synaptic.12:07
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StarKruzrwhat the hell.12:08
StarKruzrwhat's with all the sons?12:08
feugan3333bye my sons12:08
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eduardoCrube: after i apt-get install gdm, do i need to do anything more or it will start automatically?12:08
StarKruzrI can't wait to get home and get my Breezy ISO burned for this laptop.12:08
nderjm_sorush: my card is a Rage Mobility P/M12:08
arise`frank23: i think i have the same one12:08
jeff303feugan3333: yeah it's actually kind of a minor case, namely joining custom games where the host guy has the port blocked12:09
nderjm_sorush: It worked fine with Hoary :(12:09
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jeff303feugan3333: and on Windows, it will basically timeout sooner12:09
jeff303feugan3333: but who knows, maybe they will fix it, WC3 is one of the most popular titles12:09
Crubeeduardo if you're missing gdm it's possible you're missing alot of other important programs too.12:09
arise`frank23: it's the wg311 without T12:09
StarKruzrDoes anyone know if there is an official hardware support list somewhere?12:09
madsen_damm linux and ATI graphics12:09
LuVUnTujust finished dload 5.10 got it on my cdrom and there is a window Ubuntu CD detected. should i just start the package manager or should i do a clean install??12:09
BlueMatDarthFrog, Tick all for updates, security & breezy?12:09
Supermanganyone able to play BF2 in cedega?12:09
eduardoCrube: this happened twice already! Maye ubuntu just sucks? :)12:09
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jeff303Supermang: check transgaming wiki12:10
arise`frank23: WPA works ok?12:10
frank23arise`: did you have any problems with it? I didn't except screwer kde configurations tools. but hardware worked fine from the start12:10
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Zukerohi again12:10
nderjm_sorush:  Also, the GUI starts under Breezy.  But there is this bug where the screen wraps over so my menu ends up at the bottom physically, but is logically at the top12:10
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LuVUnTueduardo:  Ubuntu is great12:10
frank23arise`: I never tried WPA. WEP works.12:10
StarKruzrdifference between here and #debian: In #debian you'd get kickbanned for saying that, here we all just sigh and ignore him.12:10
Supermangarise`, WPA works with wpasupplicant12:10
arise`frank23: didn't dload it yet, i wanted to know before i waste 2 hours :)12:10
eduardoLuVUnTu - so I heard, but it seems that my install is some sort of an abortion12:10
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Supermangarise`, wish ubuntu had WPA in its network config GUI like suse has now12:11
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BlueMatDarthFrog, Tick all for updates, security & breezy?12:11
LuVUnTui am really tempted to just click the package manager12:11
arise`WEP is crap, u might as well use just MAC filtering ;)12:11
Crubeeduardo there's something really wrong with your installation. Where did you get the install file ?12:11
pcs_hi, everyone12:11
[216] ShadeyWEP is better then nothing12:11
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virgulehi12:11
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Bad_Magicnot by much12:11
eduardoCrube: the torrents linked from tge ubuntu page12:11
Supermanghehe i like WPA cuz i can actually remember my damn pass phrase12:11
Ephe-Linuxhey guys12:11
arise`Supermang: suse doesnt install WPA by default, u need to add it when installing12:11
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Ephe-Linuxjust did an install with the new ubuntu on my laptop12:11
Ephe-Linuxdual-boots perfectly12:12
Crubeeduardo what's the size of the iso image12:12
grigoradoes anyone know if it's possible to play Windows Media Player videos on Linux? thanks12:12
Ephe-Linuxand it my wireless is working nicely as well good job12:12
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benkong2is ubuntu amd64 kernel 2.6.12-6-amd64-k8 on schedule? I already upgraded to breezy but have not had any updates in awhile? Also inkscape and mozilla-thunderbird give an error kept back12:12
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StarKruzrooooooo speaking of wireless security12:12
izzy_hi....  can somone tell me how to switch which gcc I'm using?12:12
LuVUnTuthen again i dont wanna mess my setup if something goes wrong12:12
pcs_sorry my english, from spain12:12
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eduardoCrube, 564 mb12:12
lucaasgrigora, it is, search for w32codecs12:12
tristanmikegrigora, only up to wmv9 with the w32codecs, if I'm correct12:12
guru54does ubuntu have any package cds? i use dailup and it be easier to download 2-3 package cds at a friends house.12:12
LuVUnTumebbe i clean install is better12:12
Ephe-Linuxgrigora: if ubuntu is based off debian like i think it is, apt-get install w32codecs should work12:12
arise`StarKruzr: best way to stay secure is to stay offline. period12:12
arise`:D12:13
Sonderbladei'd like to install ubuntu on my second partition of my disk without reformatting it, is that possible?12:13
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[216] ShadeyUbuntu is going to take over the world!!12:13
madsen_my god mirror sites are slow12:13
Supermangizzy_, CC=gcc-3.4; export CC    for example12:13
StarKruzrlet's suppose you wanted to do this: some random person associates with your SSID.  when they try to load a web page, they get redirected to a TOS page saying "click Agree to agree that anything you do using my connection is your responsibility, not mine," and then they get to leave the TOS page12:13
dreameendo ihave to burn the iso file into cd in order to upgrade to breezy with synaptic??12:13
Ephe-Linuxdoes ubuntu 5.10 have msttcorefonts installed by default?12:13
dreameen.12:13
Crubeeduardo mine's 617mb, so there's something wrong with that file12:13
StarKruzrhow would you do that?12:13
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SonderbladeEphe-Linux: no, they are not free12:13
feugan3333Sonderblade: yes but a boot loader will have to be installed12:13
LuVUnTumaddler:  a lot of ppl are prolly dloading the latest stable release ... i stayed up all night for it12:13
Sonderbladefeugan3333: thought so, thanks12:14
izzy_supermang: thanks12:14
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LuVUnTuto start the package manager or to boot clean????12:14
dmkwell guys was just passing through, good night12:14
LuVUnTuwhat did the rest of u do??12:14
grigoralucaas: tristanmike: Ephe-Linux: thank y'all, however I get an error when I try to install w32codecs saying it's been obsoleted, any ideas?12:14
pcs_sorry, i have a problem with breezy, how can I 'full' uninstall the prism54 driver, because with modprobe -r only uninstall for this session y have to do it every time because conflicts with ndiswrapper...12:14
BlueMatIs it ok to enable all repos in synaptic, universe, multiverse etc for update, security and breezy?12:14
Ephe-Linuxoh... i had no idea they weren't free12:14
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EppuStarKruzr: Usually one creates a system with combination of iptables, web application and some custom application to control the firewall redirects etc.12:15
jrattner1why are the torrents running so slow, im only get 2.95 KB12:15
arise`Supermang: do u need to compile wpa_supplicant into ndiswrapper?12:15
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LuVUnTuoh well ... here goes12:15
arise`Supermang: or is it available as a package somewhere?12:15
EppuStarKruzr: I think there are several ready made packages for that kind of thing nowadays. I made a custom one myself12:15
stimpiefor upgrading to 5.10 I use the server us.archive.ubuntu.com (which is slow) is there a european mirror?12:15
StarKruzrEppu: I thought there might be.12:15
lucaasgrigora, i dont think they are in the reps, try searching the forums12:15
eduardoCrube: I installed breezy-install-i386.iso from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/12:15
StarKruzrEppu: Is yours OSS?12:15
jrattner1I thought torrents run fast because losts of people are using it??12:15
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izzy_that is tempory, correct?12:16
izzy_export CC?12:16
Supermangarise`, no clue i use ipw for my driver12:16
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Ephe-LinuxWhere's the grub.conf located? I wanna edit it.12:16
esacis it possible to resize an ext3 partition ?12:16
tristanmikegrigora, what are you running and on what? ie Hoary on pc.12:16
Supermangizzy_, yup until you logout or whatever it is12:16
ShadowpillarAGH12:16
EppuStarKruzr: Don't know really. I made it for my school actually, as contract work. Don't know the legal status of the project.12:16
StarKruzrizzy: FYI, export CC to change C compiler versions for make has never worked for me12:16
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Shadowpillardamnit12:16
hyphenatedalrighty then.. there's a third party app (skype) that has some unmet dependencies related to libqt version blahblah. I forced it to install (and it runs fine), but now apt-get wants to remove it12:16
StarKruzrEppu: OK.12:16
lucaasEphe-Linux, /boot/grub/menu.lst?12:16
Shadowpillarwhy?12:16
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Crubeeduardo your file is smaller than it should be, so something went wrong during the download12:16
arise`Supermang: so whats the default driver in 5.10?12:16
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Supermangarise`, for wpasupplicant?12:17
LuVUnTuhehehe there was nothing to update on the package manager so i guess i would have to boot12:17
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eduardoCrube, it's listed as 564 on that page12:17
feugan3333mstefanus: when you resart mysql are you doing so as root?12:17
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frank23hyphenated: my solution was to download the statically linked version from the skype website. It takes a minute to load but it works fine12:17
stimpiehyphenated, ofcourse skype is poprietary :-)12:17
LuVUnTugood ppl of ubuntu peace12:17
Supermangarise`, you have to specify your driver in the command line12:17
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sadya_wiyakucan i use debian binary .deb archieve to install in ubuntu ?12:17
hyphenatedstimpie: yes, there's that too.12:17
Ephe-Linuxlucaas: thanks12:17
hyphenatedfrank23: cheeers. I might try that12:18
pcs_any idea about modprove?12:18
ShadowpillarAnyone here use ubuntuppc?12:18
StarKruzrshalom12:18
Crubeeduardo I see. You should perhaps try downloading the file again. If you're missing gdm there's something wrong. Try downloading the 617mb file. Works fine with me.12:18
[216] Shadeydoes Ubuntu 5.10 have mp3 support by default?12:18
ShadowpillarAnyone here use ubuntu PPC?12:18
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arise`thanks all12:18
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Shadowpillar[216] Shadey: you have to get the universe rep12:18
virguleShadowpillar: I do12:18
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dreameenhow do i upgrade from a mounted ISO?12:18
Shadowpillar[216] Shadey: then get libmad12:18
StarKruzrpcs: What are you asking?12:18
Shadowpillarvirgule: on a oldworld mac?12:18
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virguleyes: 300Mz minitower12:19
Shadowpillarvirgule: I downloaded the debian installer ramdisk for bootx12:19
pcs_how to quit the prism54 drver from modprobe ?12:19
Crubedreameen add it to your sources.list12:19
StarKruzroh hey guys12:19
EppuStarKruzr: Check out www.cc.puv.fi/~teu/tino/ I think I used that as a concept test12:19
dreameenCrube, yup...but how?12:19
dreameenits in /mnt/ubuntu12:19
StarKruzrI have the opportunity to buy a G3/500 256MB RAM 20GB HDD white iMac from school for $60.  should I?12:19
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virguleYou can use those found in /install dir or Ubuntu CDROM12:20
floracan i apt-get thunderbird?12:20
Shadowpillarvirgule: I'm at the part where it wants powermac/images-1.44/rescue.bin12:20
DavidLeeRothstarkruzer, duh!12:20
lsuactiafnerStarKruzr : i would12:20
floracouldn't find it when i searched the apt cache12:20
[216] Shadeycan anyone send me a link that explains the whole repositories thing, perhaps a wiki? I'm so confused with this Universe, Multiverse, Backport thing.12:20
pcs_i want to uninstall prism54 module because conflicts with ndiswrapper---12:20
Shadowpillarvirgule: and I'm stuck :/12:20
miksu81 % upgrade :)12:20
MrMaDSeNflora, mozilla-thunderbird12:20
StarKruzrso it's a good deal, then12:20
StarKruzrok12:20
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lsuactiafneri got like 3 silly pcs around for fun12:20
_jason!tell [216] Shadey about repos12:20
eduardoCrube: I12:20
frank23!tell [216] Shadey about repositories12:20
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auki'm at 50%!!12:20
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floraMrMaDSeN, thanks12:20
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[216] Shadeythanks!12:20
eduardoCrube: I will try the larger file if this GDM install doesnt do things too well12:20
BlueMatIs it ok to enable all repos in synaptic, universe, multiverse etc for update, security and breezy?12:20
eduardootherwise I might as well just go from here, right?12:21
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flora:~$ apt-cache search thunderbird12:21
floraopenoffice.org2 - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.012:21
florawhat's up with that?12:21
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StarKruzr!tell me about repositories12:21
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othernoobmmh, my alt gr key works like the normal alt key, anyone know how i can change that?12:21
dooglusBlueMat: yes12:21
Supermanganyone know where Totem defines its codec directory?12:21
virguleShadowpillar: Just use 'vmlinux' and 'initrd.gz' found in the ubuntu CDROM --you know which one is used for?12:21
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LazyAngelwhen i try to open synaptic from the menu, i wirte the password. then nothing happens... is that normal since the servers are heavily loaded? or is something wrong?12:21
Supermanghaving trouble playing wmv files even with codecs installed at /usr/lib/win3212:21
virguleits in install I think12:21
lsuactiafnerStarKruzr : /msg uboty repositories is preferred.12:21
pcs_nobody knows?12:21
Shadowpillarvirgule: oh okay12:21
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feugan3333mstefanus: when you resart mysql are you doing so with the sudo command.12:22
miksustarkruzr they define the sources for your update or for synaptic install. they are found in etc/apt/sources.list or in the synaptic menu for repositories12:22
floramozilla-thunderbird?12:22
CrubeLazyAngel it should start. It'll start fetching the data from the servers after starting.12:22
frank23LazyAngel: no that is a problem on you computer. try killing any instances of gksudo12:22
mstefanusfeugan3333: I use root account12:22
Shadowpillarvirgule: that's a bit better12:22
feugan3333mstefanus: and the file /usr/sbin/mysqld exists.12:23
mwright1nightCould someone in the know please arrange for edubuntu 5.10 to be seeded12:23
nderjm_I'm going out of my mind12:23
floraPackage mozilla-thunderbird is not available,12:23
virguleThe only 'tricky' part is the installer will think there is no bootloader, from there you will have to manually cope vmlinux-2.6.10-powerpc and initrd-2.6.10-powerpc into the MacOS partition for bootx to use12:23
nderjm_Had anyone encountered a situation where the top part of their screen ends up at the bottom instead??12:23
rkdIn between logging in and having my custom background load, the desktop is brown, which clashes with my chosen green. Is there any way to retheme this?12:23
LazyAngelfrank23: ps -A | grep gksudo give no return :(12:23
mstefanusfeugan3333: yes...12:23
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sorush20could someone help me this problem I have more than one of the same driver.... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/304612:24
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flora!tell me about repositories12:24
eraosnewbie question: i downloaded a iso today and it saved as xxxxx.iso.bin .... how to i burn that on a cd? gnomebaker looks for plain *.iso files12:24
StarKruzreraos: did you try just taking the extension off?12:24
miksueraos cdrecord youriso.iso dev/cdr01 or your device as listed12:24
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eraosstarkruzr: i can simply remove the extension?12:25
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miksubtw, what is the command for listing devices12:25
StarKruzreraos: you can take it off and put it back on if it doesn't work.12:25
StarKruzrI'd give it a try.12:25
StarKruzrit might be an artifact of your browser.12:25
[216] Shadeydo you guys love Breezy Badger as much as I do?12:25
eraosstarkruzr: how do i remove it? just rename the file/12:25
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StarKruzreraos: bingo :)12:25
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eraosalright, thanks, i'll give it a go12:26
uboodoohi all12:26
dreameenwhat URI:/ should i put into synaptic repo manager for my mounted ISO?12:26
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uboodooI just installed breeze couple hours ago12:26
jrattner1is anyone getting over 2.00 KBs from any i386 torrent12:26
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feugan3333What error do you get if you "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld"12:26
florawhat is the best gnome/ubuntu desktop/icon theme?12:26
StarKruzrhey miksu.  what do you know about /dev?  I seem to recall at least one distro of Linux that only showed what devices were actually installed in the system rather than enumerating every possible device that could be installed.  does Ubuntu do that?  (I'm tempted to say no)12:26
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feugan3333flora: that a silly question12:26
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syndAny NFS experts in here?12:27
florafeugan3333, don't be such a snob12:27
miksuStarKruzr, sorry still learning. todays catch: how to burn in terminal with my cd burner12:27
StarKruzrfeugan: not necessarily.12:27
feugan3333flora: what's the best color12:27
florayes i know its subjective, that's the point, i'm looking for opinions12:27
florasheesh i forgot how touch geeks can be ;)12:27
StarKruzrfeugan3333, some themes may be more functional than others.12:27
uboodooI like it .. but all of a sudden I started hearing a sound in my laptop and I see this in my log Oct 13 18:27:09 localhost kernel: [4314792.895000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).12:27
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floratouchy*12:27
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StarKruzrsome themes move widgets around in such a way as to be more or less useful.12:28
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feugan3333flora: I'm not a geek yet :-)12:28
florawhat is YOUR favorite theme?12:28
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StarKruzrher question wasn't silly.12:28
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stimpiejrattner1, my i386 torrent is going at 2.8Mb/s12:28
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florai just don't want Human anymore but the builtins are all boring and i don't want to spend hours digging through options online.12:28
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davrogo stimpie, that could tke some time.12:28
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StarKruzrflora: I actually don't know where there is a good repository of GNOME themes.12:29
MrMaDSeNanyone have the ATI gfx wiki url again ..plz...12:29
StarKruzrcan you point me to one?12:29
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floragnome-look.org?12:29
syndAny NFS experts in here?12:29
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EppuStarKruzr: Do you mean udev? Ubuntu uses that. Gentoo uses devfs, or at least used.12:29
mirakwhy can't we really mount a samba share with gnome like it's feasible avec smbmount ?12:29
floraavec?12:29
florafrenchie!!!12:30
stperehttp://art.gnome.org/12:30
virguleits french for 'with'12:30
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stimpiethe weird thing is that my upload doesnt get filled with the torrent12:30
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virguleJe parles bien le francais :)12:30
StarKruzrEppu: yes.12:30
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mirakquoi ?12:30
MrMaDSeNvirgule, no s :)12:30
floraje ne parles pas francais12:30
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mirakmais personne veux repondre a ma question ? :D12:30
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StarKruzrwhat are the differences between udev and devfs?12:30
miksuso to compile , just run make in dir ?12:30
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MrMaDSeNmirak, naturellement12:31
StarKruzrje suis un monkey!12:31
mirakudev is a daemon12:31
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stpereStarKruzr, udev is in userspace, devfs is in kernel space12:31
mirakI am a singe12:31
StarKruzrah.12:31
EppuStarKruzr: Well devfs is deprectated by the kernel guys, for one thing. udev is the "correct" way to manage that directory nowadays12:31
frank23that's #ubuntu-fr, not #ubuntu-french12:31
flora!tell me about playing mp3s12:31
StarKruzrInteresting.12:31
Eppudeprecated, I mean12:31
virguleRIAA has you12:31
floraidiot bot12:31
mirakwhy can't we really mount a samba share with gnome like it's feasible avec smbmount ?12:31
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mirakok don't know why I said "avec" lol, I must be tired12:32
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mirakwhy can't we really mount a samba share with gnome like it's feasible with smbmount ?12:32
honehello12:32
mirakthat's better like that12:32
virgulec'est la fleche en haut12:32
honeI can't figure out how to get my bluetooth mouse to work w/ breezy "out of the box"12:32
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EppuStarKruzr: udev is a deamon, devfs is a filesystem. That is probably the most significant difference12:32
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StarKruzrdevfs is its own filesystem?  o_O12:32
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EppuStarKruzr: man udev provides information about the udev12:33
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rekrutacjado you know how to change ubuntu logo in breezy back to gnome foot?12:33
miksuwow cool finally found a nice open source FPS for linux ! =) CUBE12:33
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StarKruzrEppu: my experience with man pages is that they are usually crap when it comes to understanding implementation details12:33
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EppuStarKruzr: Well yes, they are meant as a reference really12:34
StarKruzrmirak: are you referring to the thing where it complains about smbmnt being needed to be installed uid root or something?12:34
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TylerDurdenwow can someon plz plz plz help me get 3d to work? my ati says mesa works12:34
TylerDurdenand i need 3d12:34
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uboodoohey guys anyone knows where I should look about this sound coming off of my hp nc6220 laptop12:34
akuma_anyone know where I might look for info on getting my sound working in breezy?12:34
uboodooi am using breeze12:34
Nomikosis there a page somewhere that explains how to upgrade to breezy via apt-get?12:35
Nomikoscan't find any :-(12:35
mirakStarKruzr: I don't complain, about that, tough I think it would be fine if it was suid root as default setting12:35
honeNomikos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes12:35
EppuStarKruzr: actually, udev has some file system aspects to it as well. en.wikipedia.org/udev provides some information12:35
StarKruzrmirak: me too.12:35
effieHey there,12:35
StarKruzrEppu: all hail Wikipedia!12:35
mirakStarKruzr: there could be a group samba or something like that12:35
EppuStarKruzr: yes12:35
effieI am pointing some ppl to doing internet radio,12:35
effiestreaming mp3 and the like12:35
davroStarKruzr: udev allows abusers users to have a dynamic /dev directory12:35
effieon ubuntu trhu telephone12:35
mirakStarKruzr: what I complain about is that gnome use the vfs instead of a direct mount like smbmount does12:35
raetsel99well I wonder what  the main topic of conversation has been today :o)12:35
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virguleshoutcast.com12:36
effiewhat's the best app in ubuntu?12:36
Nomikoshone, thanks!12:36
effieto play I mean12:36
honeNomikos: np12:36
effieasx treams, mms streams12:36
StarKruzrmirak: I would love to learn how to get Samba to work out of the box.  I have a lot of Windows boxes I need to be able to talk to12:36
TylerDurdenhow can i uninstall the ati.run package i installed?12:36
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virgulexmms is my choice12:36
effieI tought it would be gstreamer - plugins stuff12:36
effiebut not12:36
mirakStarKruzr: I have found a way12:36
rekrutacjaeffie vlc12:36
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effiexmms for asx?12:36
StarKruzrmirak: Do tell :)12:36
mirakStarKruzr: I can past you my config file12:36
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raetsel99TylerDurden what did  you use to install it ?12:36
virguleasx?12:36
effierekrutacja, vlc is such a terrible player :)12:36
davroeffie: blender12:36
TylerDurdenraetsel99, i downloaded the .run file from the ati website12:37
effiepffr12:37
effieblender12:37
rekrutacjaeffie if you know them all why you ask?12:37
mirakStarKruzr: so basically the trick is to just put security=share as an option instead of security=user12:37
effieno, I'm not a regular ubunto person12:37
raetsel99TylerDurden - ah then in that case it could be a bit tricky......12:37
effieI mean, I'm trying to find what's best for 'them'12:37
StarKruzrmirak: is THAT all it is?!12:37
effienot for me12:37
effie:)12:37
StarKruzrfake it to act as a Win9X client instead of NT?12:37
mirakStarKruzr: this way you are not prompted for a password when you just want to browse a remote computer12:37
TylerDurdenraetsel99, because only mesa is active and i dont understand why12:37
effieI was just looking at totem-xine or totem-gstreamer12:37
mirakStarKruzr: yes, that's also something that should be put as the default12:38
effiewich would give them the most possible options?12:38
rekrutacjado you know how to change ubuntu logo in breezy back to gnome foot?12:38
StarKruzrmirak: it should be in the GUI12:38
StarKruzrto change back and forth12:38
StarKruzror auto-change12:38
raetsel99Well tyler I think there is a way to recover Xorg to a base state butnot sure what you need to do....someone here should know12:38
mirakStarKruzr: then with that, you are still prompted a password when you try to log  to   $AUSER@onthatbox12:38
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effieno, really, some do you have some advice? some user ideas? or is vlc (ATM) the most versatile player?12:39
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mirakStarKruzr: this allow to acces to any home folder matching a user name12:39
sorush20why isn't my printer being detected in my usb ports is there any way I can detect this12:39
StarKruzrhmmm12:39
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lsuactiafnereffie : mplayer is best12:39
StarKruzrnot necessarily12:39
{GuNNeR}I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether the AMD64 support in the newest version of ubuntu has improved any?12:39
[216] Shadeyi love the breezy badger, i'm not even going to lie12:39
mirakStarKruzr: that's fine, and windows don't provide that cool thing12:39
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StarKruzrif the default behavior is security=share that won't happen12:39
effielsuactiafner, it's not very user-friendly if you're a newbie12:39
StarKruzrthat's true12:39
_jasonsorush20:  was the printer on and connected when you booted the computer?12:39
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stimpieSOMNIVM, see if it shows up in lspci12:40
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raetsel99Me too shadey, I'm well impressed with the powerPC version12:40
mirakStarKruzr: yes this will happens12:40
effieI use mplayer for 'whatever' but I'm used to reading html sources or other stuff to find the mms:// url and so on12:40
StarKruzrmirak: why?12:40
effie( me even uses edl editing _12:40
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tombshi all12:40
philcwhere are the cursor icons located? I need to use one in an image12:40
_jasoneffie what do you use to play mms:// ?12:40
stimpiesorush20, and check /var/log/messages to see it a printer is reported in there12:40
mirakStarKruzr: I wasted time on this samb options recently, so I now know how it works12:41
raetsel99hi tombs12:41
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effie_jason, mplayer12:41
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StarKruzrmirak: I delved really deeply into Samba back in the beginning days of TNG :)12:41
StarKruzrlike 5 years ago12:41
effie*no idea wether it works with any packaged version since I compile my own12:41
_jasoneffie:  k I was hoping there was another option because some of my streams don't work12:41
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StarKruzrso I have no clue about new developments12:41
lampshadeTNG?  The next generation?12:41
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mirakStarKruzr: because the security=user option asks you a password when you want to browse a remote computer. So you can't even list the shares if you are not logged12:41
StarKruzryup12:41
effie_jason, most mms I encountered work. but mms doesn't say much about the codec, it's just the way it's delivered12:42
honeanyonje here have experience w/ bluetooth?12:42
StarKruzrhone: some12:42
effieyou did try vlc?12:42
quamusing hoary at the moment, better to upgrade via synaptic or burn/install from cd?12:42
mirakStarKruzr: however when it's set on share you still can hide folder or disallow browsing and listing12:42
hyphenatedhone: only with kdebluetooth12:42
effietho it's a hard ui to use12:42
_jasoneffie:  can you do me a favor and see if it will play: mms://rdp.oninet.pt/antena1  I ahve been trying everything.  If I have to compile mplayer I'll gladly do it.12:42
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mirakStarKruzr: in fact the home thing is a special share. A kind of virtual share12:42
_jasoneffie:  it's a portuguese news station btw12:42
StarKruzrmirak: ok.  so you set security=share by default and then if necessary you could change it to user through the gui12:42
SOMNIVMstimpie, lspci? what for?12:42
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saggytitshey guys i've been trying to install a distro for a while now on my new lappy "compaq r4000" .. well every distro i try basically says it cant access the cdrom when i try to install it12:43
honeyou know that "bluetooth out of the box for input devices for breezy"?12:43
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honehow do I get it to work...I'm trying to get my laptop to work with my mx900 w/o resorting to cli12:43
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mirakStarKruzr: you can't change this option with the gui unfortunely12:43
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StarKruzrmirak: that's what I'm suggesting :)12:43
effieok, that was fun, I tried the "xine-totem plugin" and x crashed :)12:43
stimpieSOMNIVM, sorry thats wrong indeed12:43
mirakStarKruzr: yes it would be nice12:44
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StarKruzrI would get on that, but I don't speak GTK unfortunately12:44
SOMNIVMstimpie, no prob :)12:44
SupIAmMikeCan't locate LWP/Simple.pm in @INC12:44
seifehelp12:44
honeanyone?12:44
honeseife: what's wrong?12:44
effiehone, your question?12:44
seifewho nows how do i burn a bootable disk in windows?12:44
seifebootable cd*12:45
SupIAmMikesudo /usr/share/vpnc/pcf2vpnc purdue_wireless.pcf12:45
hyphenatedhone: which features are you trying to enable?12:45
effieseife, use that program called nero12:45
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{GuNNeR}does anyone know if amd64 support has improved in 5.1012:45
seifeeffiei have it, but it have many options12:45
effieuse 'burn iso'12:45
effieor burn image12:45
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effiesee, the iso you downloaded, is in fact, the raw contents of the cd you want to burn12:46
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effieso you cannot burn it as a file you have to burn it as 'raw' data onto the cd12:46
seifecreate data cd?12:46
honehyphenated: just trying to get my mx900 to be autodetected..dunno what the out of box bluetooth support is12:46
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effieno, don't use that wizard thing. otherwise google for 'burn image nero'12:46
hyphenatedhone: well, once it's detected, what do you plan to do with it? use it as a modem? copy files to it? make it control your media player?12:47
honehyphenated: it's a mouse12:47
paxany faster upgrade mirrors other than archive.ubuntu.com?12:47
seifei have to burn an image?12:47
honehyphenated: so ideally have it work as a mouse12:47
effieseife, google, it's the first link ( file->burn image)12:47
hyphenatedhone: oh :-) I thought it was a phone.12:47
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lampshadeseife:  If you have nero cancel out the wizard and then go to file then  open then change the file type to images such as .iso and then select it and burn12:47
honehyphenated: it's the logitech one..mmm yeah I have a bluetooth phone too..12:47
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effiecontemplate the possiblilties, google, seek, and find.12:48
effieblilitiesl12:48
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shadeofgreyokay guys12:48
josh43ok, question: is there any way at all to rip the 3d hardware config from a livecd? I never have a problem with my 9800pro with live cds, but I cannot for the life of me get it running on an install12:48
jrattner1is it quicker to download the iso torrent or and iso directly from a mirror?12:48
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honehyphenated: so do you know how the bluetooth "out of box" support works?12:48
quameffie: you remind me of one of those RTFM people that are so common on efnet linux help channels :P12:48
effieok, what is the 'recommended' play-it-all for ubuntu? I would like to go with 'totem'12:48
effiequam, no, but this is not a nero burning rom help channel is it?12:49
josh43effie, Yes, ubuntu supports totem, but I say if you can do it: VLC12:49
quami was referring to your response in general :P12:49
shadeofgreyi JUST replaced my entire ubuntu installatiomn with a fresh install of the stable 5.10 -- the AMD64 version...  and i just finished adding all my upgrade components too...12:49
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quami didn't read the question you were responding to :p12:49
effieand besides, we gave him enough pointers to where he should look for12:49
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effiebesides, I was the only one to respond anyways12:49
effie....er12:49
luiwell hello people!12:49
shadeofgreyi,m now running AMD64 2.5 gigahertz with 4 gig of ram and a 300gig primary SATA drive12:50
quam4 gig of ram, jesus12:50
thundrlucky.12:50
jrattner1Someone please point me in the direction of a mirror getting above 2.0 KB's for i386 install iso12:50
josh43jerk12:50
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effiequam, you are right of course12:50
josh43jrattner1, Torrent12:50
luiwhat about breezy so far?12:50
effieit's time us linux nerds/gurus/knowitalls start stepping down12:50
shadeofgreyjratter:  dude, relax...  EVERYBODY is pulling at that speed because EVERYBODY is tryuing to grab that same iso12:50
jrattner1josh43, the torrent is running rediculously slow12:50
thundrI'm the idiot who bought rambus memory back in 02.12:50
hyphenatedhone: a quick google search for "ubuntu logitech mx900" brings up a few promising links12:50
jrattner1shadeofgrey, im sorry im just excited12:50
shadeofgreyjratter:  you wanna go faster?  use bittorent12:50
thundrI'm stuck with 256 unless I want to shell out lots of $12:50
josh43jrattner1, That makes no sense12:51
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effietorrent should be even faster then regular ftp by now12:51
stimpiejrattner1, the torrent is working fine here12:51
jrattner1its not though12:51
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luianyone has installed breezy?12:51
jrattner1stimpie, what speed are you getting12:51
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shadeofgreyjrattner1:  yeah i was too when i saw they finally released it...  been running RC with all kinds of bugs12:51
quami think i was getting about 60k/s or higher from the torrent earlier12:51
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thundrgive it time, jrattner112:51
mcquaidhas anyone compiled a qt app in breezy? i've compiled a few before in hoary but now I'm getting configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt312:51
cpalmayea and it helps to spread some ubuntu love12:51
stimpiejrattner1, 2.5Mb/s at the moment12:51
popeyis it normal for glxgears on breezy to not show fps?12:51
jrattner1stimpie, what torrent are you using12:52
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mcquaidpopey, ya i noticed that too12:52
shadeofgreyokjay guys heres the 25 million dollar quiz question....  are the repositories totally different for the AMD64 version?12:52
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seifelampshade: thanks12:52
josh43jrattner1, How long has it been since you started the torrent? and have you gotten good speeds from torrent before?12:52
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honehyphenated: yeah, I mean I can do it w/ hcitool12:52
seifeim burning breezy badger :D12:52
popeylol glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark apparently12:52
josh43shadeofgrey, Repositories? No. Binaries, yes12:52
sally_I am trying to add a cd source in "add applications" but it keeps saying unable to get exclusive lock, this is in breezy, has anyone seen this or know how I can fix it?12:52
seifeim downloading Kubuntu Breezy.12:52
jrattner1josh43, previously yes, but i cancelled my last 3 in hopes of better speeds12:52
seifei want to try KDE12:52
stimpiejrattner1, ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso12:52
effieseife, why did you say so....12:52
honehyphenated: via command line, I was just under the impression that something changed in breezy b/c one of the toted features is bluetooth support out of the box for input devices12:52
effieme with nero... bla12:53
shadeofgreyjosh43:  so that means my sources.liust file should contain the regular breezy repositories?12:53
thundrjrattner1, it should be faster since it's so popular.12:53
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josh43sally_, This means something else is using apt-get.. is aynaptic open?12:53
shadeofgreycan somebody paste the link to the full list of breezy repositories please?12:53
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seifeDunno, want to see hows KDE12:53
effieis there any simple option to install other country reps in the gui?12:53
josh43shadeofgrey, Yes, mine do and I have no issues (well, no REPOSITORY issues ;)12:53
stimpieshadeofgrey, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy12:53
jrattner1thundr, i understand how it works but it would appear to be working the opposite way for me12:53
sally_josh43: ps fax |grep synaptic shows nothing12:53
jrattner1we'll see what happens12:54
anthonyWhen playing webpages embedded WMV files using VLC, there's only audio stream but no video stream, do I have to install certain codec/plug-in/package in order to get the video to work?12:54
bitblitfirst time installing ubuntu (5.10). install seems fine, except computer will not boot. assuming grub did not install properly. not sure where to start; is there a grub howto or a more advanced install mode for grub?12:54
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josh43sally_, Not sure then.. if it cant lock it means something else locked it12:54
effiekde, gnome... windowmaker12:54
john__jeez12:54
john__the repos are extremely slow12:54
effieit ain't pretty, but it's fast12:54
thundr25kbps is better than 56k modem speeds.12:54
bitblithowever if i reinstall and make my xp partition active instead, i can boot to windows, but grub never loads..12:54
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stimpiethundr, lol12:55
josh43john__, Give it until all the glompers chill out ;)12:55
honehyphenated: and I didn't get that many promising links :(12:55
miksui accidentally removed the upper panel completely...how do i re-add it?12:55
effiethundr, what country do you live in?12:55
leonelwhat app is  nice to see mpgs ?12:55
thundreffie, USA12:55
john__glompers?12:55
tapoxHow many seeds are on the Breezy torrent?12:55
effieI tout the hav good speed ther?12:55
bitblitany idea why my computer wont boot after an install of ubuntu 5.10? no error, nothing. just tries to boot from cd then stops forever with no message.12:55
stimpietahorg, 207212:56
bitblit(thats after an apparently successful install)12:56
stimpietapox, 207212:56
effie...they don't go below 768 in the netherlands anymore.12:56
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Razor-Xi'm waiting for the large amount of users on the breezy servers to fan out12:56
josh43john__, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glomp12:56
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Razor-Xthat way, even if i'm a few days late, it won't take me two days to dist-upgrade :P12:56
tapoxstimpie: 2072 seeds? Or 2072 users per seed?12:56
effieis torrent for breezy easy?12:56
john__josh43, ic ic12:56
effiemaybe I could add my 128 k to the trouble12:56
maynothhey does anyone here know how to delete a folder that is locked..?12:56
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miksurazor-x my upgrade is soon finished. took about 6 hours12:56
stimpietapox, 2072 seeds 1788 leechers12:56
Razor-Xmiksu: case in point :P12:57
thundreffie, I was going to say, it's no netherlands, and it's relatively expensive, but I guess it works.12:57
maynothis there anyway to give the file manager root permisions?12:57
stimpieeffie, and you can get 24Mb/s ;-)12:57
anthonyWhen playing webpages embedded WMV files using VLC, there's only audio stream but no video stream, do I have to install certain codec/plug-in/package in order to get the video to work?12:57
josh43maynoth, add "sudo" to the beginning of the remove command12:57
effiestill, gotta dl/ to seed12:57
thundrmaynoth, or gksudo if you're in X12:57
tapoxstimpie: Oh, okay12:57
beerockxsI just updated to breezy from Hoary, and the "show desktop" and the "trash" buttons in the task bar don't have their icon, but a red x12:57
sally_running sudo dpkg --configure -a returns nothing but fixes the problem12:57
Razor-Xwhat version of ratpoison does Breezy use?12:57
Seveas!info ratpoison breezy12:57
uboturatpoison: (Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 1.3.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 280 kB12:57
miksuhow do i re-add the starter panel. accidentally removed it ???12:57
josh43beerockxs, Remove them from panel and re-add12:57
carlsonhi all! i will ask a question that probably was made for about a thousand times.... i changed my apt-get sources.list from hoary to breezy and my system is working almost well, and it look like its upd to date.... do i need to do more to get a breezy from my hoary distro?12:57
maynothis there anyway to do it via gui?12:57
effiethe next-torrent should be a 'svn-like' system combined to torrent12:57
Seveasmiksu, rightclick on panel12:57
Razor-XSeveas: thanks12:57
maynothtotal noob and I hate the CLI12:57
Seveasselect add to panel, etc..12:58
miksuseveas yeah but the entire upper panel is removed12:58
Supermangyou have no panels? lol12:58
effieI mean, starting to add my little download/upload speed to the seed is not helping much right now12:58
bitblitany idea where i can go to get help with my computer not booting up after an ubuntu 5.10 install?12:58
Seveasmiksu, rightclick the bottom one, select new panel12:58
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josh43carlson, yes: http://tinyurl.com/dkllj12:58
beerockxsjosh43: they don't have their icons in the "add to panel" program, either12:58
thundrmaynoth, yes, execute gksudo then nautilus from the applications menu12:58
JDigitalHeh heh, I just saw http://www.zenlinux.com/ubuntu_challenge/12:58
josh43beerockxs, Hrm.. not sure then :(12:58
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beerockxsand in the "places" menu, the icons for home and computer also don't show up12:58
effiebut if I could 'seed' the complete installed ubunto on my disk it would help somehow12:58
beerockxssame for desktop12:58
Razor-XSeveas: how will ratpoison cope with a Debian installed ratpoison package?12:58
carlsonjosh43, thanks a lot12:59
SeveasRazor-X, ENOCLUE12:59
josh43carlson, yw :)12:59
Razor-XSeveas: because ratpoison has no real dependancies, I just installed a Debian package (because the Hoary one is a few years old)12:59
effieratpoison on ubuntu?12:59
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Razor-Xeffie: yeahp12:59
miksuseveas there is no such option !!! HELP!12:59
effiehar har12:59
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miksuseveas oh now i got it12:59
josh43beerockxs, Sounds like the actual icons are gone or restricted permissions12:59
Razor-Xeffie: wanna see a screenshot?01:00
Seveasmiksu, :)01:00
effieyeah01:00
shadeofgreyso....  lemme make sure i got this straight...  i dont have to do anything special to get the 64 bit versions of everything?  all i have to do is make sure that my sources.lisdt file is good and im fine..?01:00
sally_never mind, that worked once, but the problem came back,  and typing that doesnt work anymore01:00
Razor-Xeffie: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png01:00
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Seveasshadeofgrey, no01:00
josh43shadeofgrey, Yes and yes01:00
thundrlol01:00
BockBilboSeveas, is there any known problem with mysql or iptables after dist upgrading to breezy?01:00
beerockxsjosh43: well yeah, but how?01:00
shadeofgrey...does this mean that i can ONLY run 64 bit stuff or are the 32bit programs backwards compatible?01:00
Seveasshadeofgrey, if you installed 32 bit you need to reinstall to get 64bit01:00
TFP_hi01:00
CyrusHey, i'm a total rookie..so does anyone wanna help me out with Dual Boot Installations?01:00
josh43shadeofgrey, I mean; no and yes, respectivly ;)01:00
tapoxCyrus: Sure.01:00
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TFP_how can i define a shortcut for a specific program?01:00
Razor-Xshadeofgrey: you can run a 32-bit chroot to run 32 bit programs01:00
popeyCyrus: dual boot what and what?01:00
SeveasCyrus, the installer does that by itseld:)01:00
Razor-XCyrus: shoot01:00
shadeofgreywait01:01
shadeofgreyso01:01
Cyrusthank.01:01
frank23shadeofgrey: it's not easy to get the 32 bit programs to work01:01
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virguleTFP: provide some details please: There is 'ln' among a couple others..01:01
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effie..interesting stufff you're reading01:01
bitblitthis sucks ubuntu wont boot and i cant find any howto articles on grub01:01
shadeofgreyi cant install beep media player or anything because they arent 64bit???01:01
jrattner1Torrent is running at .38 KB/s01:01
Razor-Xeffie: not reading, writing :P01:01
bitblitanyone else having problems booting after a clean install?01:01
Seveasshadeofgrey, there's a 64bit beep too...01:01
Cyruslets see...i like the Live CD, and i wanted to set up my system dual boot so i can really learn linux01:01
popeyjrattner1: how long has it been running?01:01
Cyrusand i have 2 paritions.01:01
josh43BockBilbo, There are no known anythings about dist-upgrade yet.. it's been out for <24hr01:01
effieyou're into that kinda stuff?01:01
stimpiejrattner1, you must be doing something wrong. are you behind a firewall/nat?01:01
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shadeofgreyokjay well first things first01:01
popeyjrattner1: have you opened up the necessary ports?01:01
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jrattner12 hours and 26 minutes01:01
shadeofgreygotta get nvidia running01:02
thundrCyrus, you've got xp?01:02
beerockxsalso, the icon-preview for text files no longer works on the desktop01:02
shadeofgreybrb01:02
Cyrusyeah01:02
nderjm_If Anyone asks about a display issue with Breezy on the omnibook, tell them to use the Vesa driver and advanced monitor configuration.  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1771901:02
josh43shadeofgrey, You can also compile from source; it's no big deal01:02
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Razor-XCyrus: the installer does most of the work, if you have NTFS, you have to allocate your own free space, though01:02
beerockxsfiles and folders on the desktop all have the same icon01:02
Razor-Xeffie: it was homework01:02
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Cyrusso i've heard it was...01:02
Razor-Xeffie: can you guess my age from my homework? :P01:02
Cyrusi just like being in control01:02
effieah, historician, about 23?01:02
thundrCyrus, just install and make sure it lists xp after it installs GRUB to the MBR.01:02
BockBilbojosh43, well it has screwed up smthing in my config01:02
Razor-Xeffie: but yeah, I like history, I put my heart into it01:02
stephwhat file do i edit to change the system default runlevel?01:02
jrattner1popey, what ports do i need to open? its connecting just transfering slowly01:02
npivubuntu keyboard sets at install were somewhat limited, im on an acer travelmate, how can I tweak the keyboard response right ?01:02
Razor-Xeffie: hahaha, no, aspiring mathematician, 1501:02
BockBilbonow i cant access remotely to my db01:02
shadeofgreyjosh43:  ive never compiled anything from source....  if i wanted that kind of headdache id install Fedora and NEVER get anything done01:02
effiecewl01:03
Cyruswell see, i got to the manually editing paritions part.01:03
effieyou think a lot for your age :)01:03
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josh43Cyrus, Yeah, delete the second partition, leave it as free space and boot the install disk01:03
Razor-Xeffie: meh01:03
TFP_virgule,  i want to open a program with CTRL+ALT+A01:03
thundrCyrus, that was for Hoary, though01:03
maynothcannot lauch the terminal window.. anyone know if this is a breezy bug?01:03
TFP_virgule, how can i do this?01:03
Cyrusoh, well i've got the Breezy CD.01:03
beerockxshow do i get all the icons back? :-(01:03
effieI dunno, when I was 15, I was obsessed with other stuff01:03
bitbliti sure would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction. system will not boot after a clean ubuntu install; grub never loads. have to reinstall with windows as active partition in order to boot...01:03
thundrCyrus, unless you want the stuff on the second partition01:03
effiemonkey bussness :)01:03
lampshadeshadeofgrey:  more like you'd want gentoo or lfs Fedora can run apt and has yum01:03
Razor-Xnpiv: you can always get a keyboard layout online for xkbd01:03
josh43shadeofgrey, I used to think that way too, but it's easy.. just 3 commands: ./configure, make, make install01:03
Cyruswell i've  got 2 paritions already set up.01:03
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Razor-Xnpiv: or set up your own01:03
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CyrusC has 70 gb and has all thewindows stuff i want with NTFS01:03
Razor-Xeffie: meh01:03
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Cyrusi want to keep that.01:04
thundrCyrus, is there anything on those partitions you want?01:04
virguleTFP a keyboard shortcut? I sorry I dont know --I dont use'em yet. There must be a 'keybinding' thing around I aint sure sorry ;( Keep digging you will find01:04
Cyrusand D has 10 GB of FAT3201:04
Razor-XCyrus: is that the only partition you have?01:04
Cyrusnope01:04
Cyrus201:04
CyrusC and D01:04
josh43bitblit, Did you put grub in the MBR (it asks at install)?01:04
CyrusD is Fat3201:04
thundrCyrus, anything on D you want?01:04
Cyrusno, D is completely blank01:04
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Razor-XCyrus: so, are you planning to wipe D for space?01:04
stephhow do i make my system boot to text mode? runlevels seem to be different in ubuntu01:04
npivRazor-X thanks, I cant find any info on it in the guide, got a refference or link ?01:04
Cyruswell i want to keep the C un modified01:04
josh43Cyrus: Delete D and leave it as free space01:04
bitblitjosh43: yes, i did, and no apparent errors from the installer. i've installed grub with gentoo before and it worked fine though...01:04
B_166-ER-Xwhat is the command to execute a .sh file ?01:04
Razor-XCyrus: ok then, that makes it easy, although why did you put FAT32 on it?01:04
effiewell, you hide well.01:04
TFP_virgule: ok thx01:04
thundrCyrus, you can put it all on D if you want01:04
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Cyruswell, it wasn't my choosing.01:04
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beerockxsanyone?01:05
Razor-XCyrus: yeah, detele D, basically, and it's helpful to have about 1.5 - 2.0 GB space01:05
Cyrusit was my windows recoery partition...01:05
Cyrusand i cleared it out01:05
Razor-Xnpiv: hmmm, not offhand, google will do you wonders though01:05
davroCyrus: sounds like you have the needed setup, just make sure you install ubuntu into the correct partition, ubuntu should reconise the XP install and add that to your mbr handled by grub.01:05
josh43B_166-ER-X, sh shfile.sh01:05
sally_speaking of compiling from source... I need to install ndiswrapper to get my wireless nic working, there doesn't seem to be an ndiswrapper binary package, only a src package at http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndiswrapper/01:05
Cyrusafter i got the recovery cds.01:05
B_166-ER-Xthankx01:05
Razor-Xnpiv: I used to know a lot of the stuff, because I have a Dvorak keyboard, meself01:05
Seveassally_, there is01:05
thundrCyrus, or you can put half of it on D and half on C in the free space.  Whichever you prefer.01:05
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joe__hi guys01:05
maynothwow... breezy is really buggy...01:05
joe__have a question01:05
Seveasthe kernel module is in linux-restricted-modules and the ndiswrapper program is in ndiswrapper-utils01:06
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sally_Seveas: you know where the binary ndiswrapper package is?01:06
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maynoththere was an error launching the application01:06
Seveassally_, I justsaid it ;)01:06
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oddietacowhat's the best way to upgrade my ubuntu to the newest version?01:06
CyrusThundr: my only intention is to put it on D.01:06
stephhow do i make my system boot to text mode rather than gui?01:06
Cyrusand create a swap...01:06
joe__i have this win32codecs taht i dowloaded from the tinyurl.com site, but i cant make it install into the correct drecotry01:06
effieok, well, the ppl I was doing some help on the phone to never rang back after I told em to install *all* gstreamer stuff they could find.01:06
lampshadeubotu: tell oddietaco about upgrade2breezy01:06
Cyrusdon't really like automatic stuff though.01:06
beerockxsah, switching the theme and back again fixed it josh4301:06
cricketloddo100does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.101:06
maynotherror reading file file:///home/<insert username here>/01:06
effieI guess they're ok then....01:06
thundrCyrus, that'll work.  You will want to delete the partition on D so it's listed as free space.01:07
sally_Seveas: thanks I'll give it a shot01:07
_jasonjoe__:  what are you doing to install it01:07
Cyrusi want to be the one that scerws it up if something goes wrong, heaven forbid.01:07
josh43beerockxs, Wierd, good stuff tho :)01:07
bitblitjosh43: any ideas?01:07
jrattner1ubotu: tell jrattner1 about upgrade2breezy01:07
maynothand lots of weird locked folders i cannot delete01:07
maynothLOL01:07
effiemaynoth, are you having such an idiotic username01:07
sally_Seveas: wait, are those in universe?01:07
effie?01:07
joe__sudo dpkg -i wincodecs3201:07
davrooddietaco: update your apt sources to breezy, update, dist-upgrade01:07
joe____jason01:07
effie/home/maynoth?01:07
maynothyeah01:07
effie:)01:07
thundrCyrus, by going into manually partitoin01:07
thundrCyrus, *partition01:07
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effieI would never dare to show my 'real' /home/loozer/01:07
josh43bitblit: Not really.. I always install grub to the linux partition and use a bootloader I like: xosl01:08
starscallingok01:08
maynothi cannot load anything01:08
cricketloddo100any101:08
syndAny NFS experts in here?01:08
maynothLOL01:08
anthonyWhen playing webpages embedded WMV files using VLC, there's only audio stream but no video stream, do I have to install certain codec/plug-in/package in order to get the video to work?01:08
_jasonjoe__:  you put the .deb on the end of that?  Is it giving you some kind of error01:08
cricketloddo100help01:08
maynothI guess I will format and reinstall again01:08
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joe__yes i dod01:08
starscallingwhat would be the downside to running breezy compaired to hoary please?01:08
Seveassally_, no01:08
Cyrusyep01:08
maynothmaybe i will just wait for dapper...01:08
joe____jason yes i did01:08
bitblitjosh43: so i can install grub to partition and use xosl instead?01:08
effieok lads, -ciao-01:08
effie**01:08
maynothor xandros401:08
joe__it's actually a fairl long name for a file01:08
thundrCyrus, then you may want to make a 3 GB for ext3 or that other one that starts with R.01:08
luiCyrus check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5672301:08
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nderjm_Could someone remind me where statup messages are logged pleasee?01:08
josh43bitblit, Definately, if you know how to use xosl, the world of dualboot is your oyster01:08
cricketloddo100does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.101:08
virguleanyone can help me resolving some kind of network problems? -- The 'internet' seam soooo slow to respond to my requests Its like a 33.6 modem but Im with a 500 cable01:08
cricketloddo100does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.101:08
cricketloddo100does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.101:08
cricketloddo100does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.101:08
cricketloddo100does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.101:08
thundrcricketloddo100, No.01:09
KyralStop!01:09
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lampshadeuh oh01:09
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lampshadehahah01:09
Blairi take it that people have been able to install this release, so the problem i am having is limited to my hardware?01:09
nderjm_Where are startup messages logged?01:09
bitblitjosh43: thanks i'll have to look at it01:09
thundrCyrus, and the 3 GB one should be for the main ubuntu01:09
Seveasnderjm_, /var/log/kern.log / dmesg01:09
nderjm_thanks01:09
virguledmesg I think01:09
Blairnderjm_...in the log?01:09
joe____jason, the error i get is, joe@ubuntulaptop:~$ sudo dpkg -i win32codecs.deb01:09
joe__dpkg: error processing win32codecs.deb (--install):01:09
joe__ cannot access archive: No such file or directory01:09
joe__Errors were encountered while processing:01:09
joe__ win32codecs.deb01:09
thundrCyrus, you could make another partition for /home/ so you can put your stuff there (it's like my documents and you put everything there)01:10
josh43bitblit, yw, hope it works out for you.. I started with xosl becuase a way was multi-booting 35+ os's with no problem, so I know I dont need to worry ;)01:10
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thundrCyrus, and that can be as large as you want.01:10
Cyruswell, i think i had it all set up...01:10
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Cyrusi had my C: for windows.01:10
SeveasNEVER paste in here01:10
bimberijoe__: you got the filename wrong (and don't paste)01:10
Cyrusmy D: for Ubuntu.01:10
Eppusynd: what's the problem?01:10
Cyrusand i set up a swap partition01:10
stimpieI've download the iso, how do I copy all de .deb files into to my /var/cache/apt/archives?01:10
Cyrusin the manually edit01:10
Cyrusand then01:10
Blairthe specific problem i have is that it starts unpacking packages and after it gets into the g's it starts to have errors and claim "can't download ____" and when it gets done with the z's (zlibg, I think) it thinks for a bit and then claims it couldn't install...01:11
Cyrusi went to create...or something of that sort01:11
Cyrusand i got a red screen.01:11
stimpiestimpie, it is mounted but all the files are in different directories01:11
_jasonjoe__:  in the future use pastebin to paste errors.  Are you sure the name is not "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb"01:11
thundrCyrus, if you make a seperate /home directory if you have to reinstall ubuntu you won't have to backup/lose all your files01:11
Blairshouldn't be downloading anything as there's no network connected01:11
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Seveasstimpie, find /mountpoint/of/iso -name '*.deb' -exec cp '{}' /var/cache/apt/archives ';'01:11
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josh43joe__, Best way to make sure the file is there: tab-completion.. start typing the filename, press tab01:11
Razor-Xsteph: you can always remove your dm01:11
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Blairis there any way to verify the downloaded .iso file so that i can tell whether the problem is in the download, in the burned cd, or something is bad in the .iso itself?01:12
thundrCyrus, what did the red screen say?01:12
breakthestateif i have the breezy realease candidate, how to i upgrade to the official 5.10 release using apt-get?01:12
stimpieSeveas, thanx01:12
SeveasBlair, check the md5 sum01:12
Cyrussomething about needing to set some sort of root.01:12
starscallingSeveas:: how stable is the new release?01:12
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Cyrus...i didn't think much of it at the time.01:12
Seveasbreakthestate, apt-get dist-upgrade01:12
starscallingand is there anything i should consider before changing to it?01:12
Cyrusexcept the red was pretty evil.01:12
Blairseveas...where's it stored?01:12
SeveasStarKruzr, very stable01:13
breakthestateSeveas - thanks01:13
Blairand how do i calculate it for the iso?01:13
zaxI need help mounting my fat32 maxtor drive01:13
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Seveasstarscalling, read the releasenotes, see /topic01:13
thundrCyrus, oh, yeah, you'll want to set the 2-3 gb partition as /01:13
starscallingand is there any command to uninstall all extra packages ive installed to date?01:13
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starscallingthankyou Seveas01:13
zaxanyone know how01:13
bimberiBlair: md5sum file.iso (in a terminal)01:13
jmainI have the Breazy install disk.  How do you install fresh without wiping out the home directory?01:13
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thundrCyrus, otherwise nothing will work.01:13
Cyrusso i set the Linux partition to "/"01:13
josh43jmain, Backup the home partition01:13
Blairstupid question:  you think cygwin has md5sum? because i downloaded on a windows pc01:13
starscallingare there any changes in the iso for 5.10 in the last week Seveas ?01:13
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ssdd65how do i add the breezy repos to my synaptic?01:14
Seveasstarscalling, lots01:14
thundrCyrus, yes, and I recommend making a seperate partition for /home/ too01:14
_jasonjoe__:  in the future use pastebin to paste errors.  Are you sure the name is not "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb"01:14
Seveasssdd65, /topic01:14
zaxanyone know how to I need help mounting my fat32 maxtor drive01:14
Cyrusoh01:14
starscallingah so i would want to redownload and burn that too01:14
Cyrusok01:14
Cyrusthen i think i had it.01:14
snarfto install kde, do i just apt-get install kde?01:14
zaxits usb01:14
Seveas!tell zax about ntfs01:14
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Cyrusthanks...01:14
_jasonjoe__:  sorry, pasted by accident01:14
Seveasah usb should automount Zanoi01:14
Seveaszax*01:14
ssdd65thanks01:14
The_VoxSnakeBite: I recommend doing "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"01:14
The_Voxugh, that was for snarf01:14
snarfok01:15
thundrCyrus, no problem.  If you run into any other problems don't hesitate to ask.01:15
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Blairmaybe what i'll do is boot, wait until it cacks, break into a root shell, then try to md5sum the cd on the nonworking hw...then check it against the burning hw...01:15
B_166-ER-Xhep : I'm trying to install unrealT2k4,  the install prog ask me to mount the second cd... but my drive wont eject, and i cant umount it since it is 'occupied' but if a close the running program it will be no more... so.. , how do i 'overide' eject? or what ?01:15
Blairback in a few01:15
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starscallingSeveas:: could i use the iso i burned for breezy last saturday and do a apt-get upgrade to match with new files? or is downloading the latest iso neccisary? i want to do a clean install from the begining not upgrade is why i ask01:16
Seveasstarscalling, using last weeks iso is fine01:16
starscallingawesome! thankyou a lot Seveas ! ill be back in a few hours then guys :P01:16
starscallingor less!01:16
Seveasgood luck :)01:16
B_166-ER-XSeveas, can you help me here ?  :|01:16
anthonyWhat's the repository for getting the "win32codecs" package?01:16
starscallingupgrading to breezy see EVERYONE AFTEH >_>01:17
bimberiubotu tell anthony about w32codecs01:17
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hajikiubotu tell hajiki about w32codecs01:17
bimberihajiki: you can say "ubotu tell me..." :)01:17
N17R0ubotu tell N17R0 about w32codecs01:18
bimberior better - /msg ubotu w32codecs (then it's not in the channel)01:18
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hajikibimberi, didnt know thanks01:18
bimberihajiki: np :)01:18
anthonyubotu tell me about how to install deb files01:18
KyralAnyone know how I would install VLC from Sid?01:18
bimberianthony: sudo dpkg -i file.deb01:19
anthonybimberi: Thanks.01:19
bimberianthony: yw :)01:19
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B_166-ER-Xhep : I'm trying to install unrealT2k4,  the install prog ask me to mount the second cd... but my drive wont eject, and i cant umount it since it is 'occupied' but if a close the running program it will be no more... so.. , how do i 'overide' eject? or what ?01:19
germanhi!01:19
cafuego_Kyral: By fetching the source deb and building it on your own machine.01:19
BlueMatIve got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?01:19
Razor-XB_166-ER-X: eject /dev/cdrom01:19
floraok i know how to edit fstab, but how do i make mounted partitions stay after reboot using the Disks applet?01:19
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mhz_on_wikihi all01:20
seifehow do i blank a cd and then burn a cd with mp3 songs and some .jpg images01:20
germanthe Multiverse repositories dontt run01:20
Razor-Xseife: try using K3B, Gnomebaker, or Graveman01:20
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mhz_on_wikiWhat is the best simple command line application to convert ogg into mp3 ?01:20
john__Hey, anyone know how to change the resolution of the GDM?01:21
B_166-ER-XRazor-X  i have a 'please insert next cd' window open..so it WONT umount (then eject) thats my problem01:21
BlueMatIve got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?01:21
flora!tell me about audio codecs01:21
john__I changed my gnome reso and it didn't affect the GDM01:21
KyralB_166-ER-X, copy the installer script to the HD and then run it01:21
flora!tell me about mp301:21
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bimberiseife: or nautilus (the file manager), copy and paste the files to Go->CD/DVD Creator, then select "Write to CD"01:21
B_166-ER-Xhm01:21
B_166-ER-Xok01:21
B_166-ER-Xi'll try this01:21
Kyralthen you should be able to unmount the CD01:21
Razor-XB_166-ER-X: umount -f /mnt/path/to/cdrom01:21
josh43ok, question: is there any way at all to rip the 3d hardware config from a livecd? I never have a problem with my 9800pro with live cds, but I cannot for the life of me get it running on an install01:21
icewtmhz_on_wiki, maybe this http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3 ?01:21
rekrutacjado you know how to change ubuntu logo in breezy back to gnome foot?01:21
germanspanish ???01:21
B_166-ER-Xwhats -f ?01:21
Razor-XB_166-ER-X: force01:21
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Kyralthe installer is complaining because if you eject the CD, it won't have a place to run from01:22
Razor-Xgerman: #ubuntu-es01:22
maynothanyone know how to delete locked folders via gui?01:22
B_166-ER-Xok01:22
mhz_on_wikijohn__: afaik, GDM uses images that won't change resolution01:22
Kyralif you run it from the Hard Drive it will be okay01:22
josh43maynoth, Yes, but it's harder than doing them from command line01:22
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BlueMatIve got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?01:22
shadeofgreyokay guys i need to know something important01:22
mhz_on_wikiicewt: I apt-cache searched for it unsuccessffully01:22
josh43maynoth, And potentially more dangerous01:22
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shadeofgreywhat is gstreamer for and why is it important to my installation?01:22
KyralHmm01:23
KyralShould I try Breezy -> Sid...01:23
cafuego_shadeofgrey: It handles media content01:23
TFP_how can i watch quicktime streams ins firefox?01:23
florais this the right repository deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main ?01:23
josh43shadeofgrey, It's the driver backend for your video player01:23
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sorush20I'm unable to stop hotplug subsystem.01:23
maynothwell how do you do it if you dont mind telling me01:23
florai get an error when apt-get update with that in my sources.list01:23
icewtmhz_on_wiki, it's a simple script. you don't need to install it through apt01:23
josh43shadeofgrey, If you know what codecs are in windows, it's very similar01:23
horzaanyone got a howto to get console to 1024*768 ?01:23
shadeofgreyokay01:23
Razor-Xhorza: console as in a tty, or a terminal emulator?01:24
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mhz_on_wikishadeofgrey: sudo apt-cache search gstreamer and then repeat the command but change search for show and add the correct name. maybe 'gstreamer-0.8'01:24
shadeofgreywhat do i need to install to get this installation to recognise and stream windows media stuff and quicktime stuff?01:24
mhz_on_wikiicewt: ooooh, duh!01:24
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josh43shadeofgrey, You are on amd64 ubuntu, correct?01:24
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Feral_KidOk, the latest question... Does backports work with 5.10?01:24
shadeofgreyjosh43:  yes01:24
cafuego_horza: via fbcon; you need to pass a boot time parameter to the kernel to make it use  aframebuffer AND tell it what resolution to run at. Google for the exact syntax and driver options for your vga card.01:25
icewtmhz_on_wiki, however, you may need to apt-get some programs for the script to work01:25
horzaRazor-X, want it to boot in 1024*76801:25
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bimberiFeral_Kid: no, there aren't any breezy backports (yet) afaik01:25
mhz_on_wikiicewt: i see, thx01:25
john__mhz_on_wiki, thats wrong01:25
cafuego_shadeofgrey: With *all* gstreamer stuff, mine plays quicktimes and avi. (badly, but it plays them)01:25
josh43shadeofgrey, Well, I'm doing it through xine with the ffmpeg drivers, but that's still not 100%01:25
TFP_has anyone got a suggestion?01:25
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Razor-Xhorza: you want the WM resolution to be 1024*768, or....?01:25
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pipounHoy hoy01:25
BlueMatIve got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?01:25
mhz_on_wikijohn__: ?01:25
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TFP_i want to watch movie trailers on apple.com01:25
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Kaiserhi01:25
TFP_but it doesn't work01:25
CapnCookman these us repos are sloooooow today01:26
josh43shadeofgrey, cafuego Brings up a good point: install all the gstreamer packages01:26
maynothanyone know how to delete locked folders via gui?01:26
gabrielhow can i install a plugin to listen mp3 files?01:26
josh43TFP_, Are you running ubuntu 64 bit?01:26
shadeofgreywhat about mplayer and the w32codecs stuff?01:26
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Razor-Xmaynoth: is the console that unbearable? :P01:26
tuppahrm01:26
cafuego_maynoth: You can't. chown them first in the console, THEn delete them via the gui.01:26
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josh43shadeofgrey, sorry.. a64 and mplayer is a no-go01:27
tuppais the UI fonts in firefox not following the GNOME settings or is it just me01:27
TFP_josh43: nope01:27
maynothxmms can play mp3s by default doesn't it?01:27
maynothyeah the console sucks01:27
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maynothLOL01:27
lsuactiafnermaynoth : or tun the deleting program as root01:27
josh43TFP_, Install VLC and use that01:27
tuppait seems to be on Sans Serif 12 instead of what I had in GNOME01:27
horzaRazor-X, the console01:27
Razor-Xmaynoth: meh, I use console most of the time :P01:27
TFP_josh43: how?01:27
lsuactiafnerconsole is easy01:27
TFP_just install vlc?01:27
cafuego_TFP_: There's an mplayer plugin for firefox/mozilla. use that. It may or may not work.01:27
maynothwell how to do create a root user01:27
oddietacoi'm getting an error about my /etc/fstab file.  is there somebody who can help me figure out what's wrong with it?01:27
lsuactiafneram in console right now to chat and play mp3s01:27
maynothso I can log in as root01:27
maynothand delete the folders01:27
maynothLOL01:27
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TFP_and whats that with vlc?01:27
cafuego_maynoth: 'sudo rm -rf foldername'01:27
josh43TFP_, Yes, vlc will play apple.com trailers01:28
lsuactiafnermaynoth : as i do it, but be very very carefull01:28
cafuego_maynoth: You don't need a root user.01:28
shadeofgreyokay well look...  i HAVE to be able to play windows media and quicktime -- i use it every day for my job...  so it needs to totally work01:28
maynothwell it would be a lot easier01:28
lsuactiafnerunless its someone elses data and you have someone else to blame also01:28
TFP_josh43: do i have to configure something for that?01:28
Cyrushey...i tried to install...01:28
Razor-Xhorza: .... there are many consoles, you could be using a terminal emulator (which means it is a console in a GUI window), or a tty (which means you use a Ctrl+Alt+F# combination, where # is a number between 0-9, to switch outside of X)01:28
maynothhow do you create one01:28
anathema_rm -rf as root is unbelievably dangerous01:28
anathema_haha01:28
Cyrusbut it didn't work too well01:28
josh43TFP_, It's in synaptic01:28
Cyrusif anyone wants to help me via AIM or something...let me know.01:28
Razor-Xanathema_: don't say that, some people do it just for fun to see how ``dangerous'' it is :P01:28
anathema_hahah01:28
Cyrusbecause im' not registered.01:28
cafuego_maynoth: You don't need one. Use your own user account and prefix any root command with 'sudo'. it will ask for _YOUR_ password and run the command with root privileges.01:28
TFP_no i mean when i have it installed01:28
anathema_hose your system instantly dangerous01:28
anathema_haha01:28
shadeofgreyif its better for me to go back to 32bit land, please say so NOW before i go any further with customizing this install01:28
anathema_just like the dd command01:28
anathema_haha01:28
Razor-Xanathema_: :P01:29
horzaRazor-X: then its tty, im pretty new on linux :)01:29
anathema_dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda01:29
anathema_haha01:29
maynothdoes anyone here know how to create a root account?01:29
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cafuego_shadeofgrey: If you want video, dvd, flash and java, use 32bit.01:29
josh43shadeofgrey, If you need it to read everything windows does, go to ubuntu 3201:29
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sphivoshadeofgrey: If that is the case, it will be amazingly easier to use 32bit.01:29
cafuego_maynoth: Are you deaf?01:29
maynothso you can log in as root01:29
Cyrusi went through the installer again...and it already set up 3 partitions.01:29
shadeofgreyokay01:29
bimberiCyrus: just tell the channel what you mean by "didn't work too well" and someone might be able to help :)01:29
Razor-Xhorza: hmmmm, you're going to have to change your terminal font01:29
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shadeofgreycrap...  i wish id known that...01:29
Cyruswell01:29
Cyrusi got an error01:29
Cyrusthat said01:29
CapnCookmaynoth do a serch on ubuntu forums you will find it there01:29
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stimpieshadeofgrey, or ask microsoft to make a 64 bit codec ;-)01:30
josh43shadeofgrey, You and me both ;)01:30
shadeofgreyoh well...  its only 40 mins or so to replace it01:30
skel_I have a issue with Amarok it is unable to add any mousi to my colelction... it gets to 100% and shuts down anyone know what this coudl be?01:30
CyrusDbootstrap program exited without error (return value 1)01:30
cafuego_shadeofgrey: There's always the i386 chroot option...01:30
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Cyruscheck /target/var/log/bootstrap.log01:30
airmikeyok r we back to compileing with breezy..cause nothin loads with synaptics01:30
horzaRazor-X, got a howto or something?01:30
josh43shadeofgrey, Or, ask everyone to use open-source codecs ;)01:30
anathema_airmikey: you are doin somehting wrong haha01:30
shadeofgreycafuego:  id rather just kiull the whole installation and ewinstall 32bit01:30
airmikeythat helps01:30
shadeofgreyactually01:30
shadeofgreyno01:30
cafuego_stimpie: Once those monkeys that wripe mplayer get their own amd64 machines, I'm sure support will be swift.01:30
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josh43cafuego, Much agreed01:31
cafuego_write01:31
Razor-Xhorza: i'm actually not that sure, try google on that, I find a terminal emulator much more pleasing to the eye01:31
TFP_josh43: i installed vlc and the plugin and it doesnt work, do i have to configure vlc?01:31
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anathema_Razor-X: compared to what?01:31
shadeofgreyy'know what?  ill just throw the 32 bit version on my other disk01:31
josh43TFP_, open vlc first01:31
stimpiecafuego, indeed maybe amd should sponsor them with one01:31
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cafuego_Much like Linux started woking much nicer on powerpc once Linus got a G5 ;-)01:31
Razor-Xanathema_: hmmmm?01:31
Razor-Xanathema_: compared to a tty01:31
anathema_terminal emulator pleasing compared to what01:31
anathema_oh01:31
shadeofgreylinus got a G5?01:32
Razor-Xanathema_: I know a lot of people like their terminal emulators to loook like a tty, but, I don't01:32
cafuego_shadeofgrey: And then, you cna use *that* 32bit install as chroot in the 64it one too ;-)01:32
anathema_heh i do01:32
reikithink 'm better off holding off on the upgrade until this weekend sometime?01:32
cafuego_shadeofgrey: linux has a gual G5.01:32
anathema_black background01:32
josh43While the subject is up: has anyone noticed a big difference between ubuntu 32bit and 64bit? (4GB+ systems exempt ;))01:32
cafuego_linus too01:32
anathema_white textr01:32
maynothanyone know what i should search for in the user forums to tell me how to create a root user01:32
anathema_;D01:32
shadeofgreyhe probably got it for free...  that bastard01:32
oddietacoif i want to switch from using gnome to using kde, should i remove ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop and install kubuntu-base and kubuntu-desktop01:32
Razor-Xanathema_: my terminal emulatorhas its own style which isn't GUI sugar, nor is it blocky-tty01:32
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Razor-Xanathema_: :P01:32
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anathema_heheh01:32
lsuactiafnerjosh43 : yes, its faster01:32
anathema_some fancy background picture?01:32
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Razor-Xs/orhas/or has/01:32
cafuego_josh43: Compiling, sql, media encoding is faster on the 64bit version.01:32
shadeofgreyby the way guys...  he sold us all out..  hes now a contractor for microsoft vista development01:32
josh43oddietaco, You can install both01:32
Razor-Xanathema_: not a very fancy picture, a very grayscale one01:32
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cafuego_josh43: browsing, email and office are not (really)01:33
Razor-Xanathema_: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png01:33
oddietacojosh43: cool. thanks01:33
Razor-Xanathema_: there's my desktop, for you01:33
Blairman...setup is silly...trying to do dhcp before asking if i even have a network connected01:33
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lsuactiafnershadeofgrey : who?01:33
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stimpieshadeofgrey, yeah and the pope is gay01:33
shadeofgreystimpie:  very gay01:33
anathema_Razor-X: that is very hard to read01:33
anathema_haha01:33
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TFP_josh43: it's just black and says "no picture"01:33
bimberiBlair: they try very hard to miminise install questions01:33
cafuego_He abstains, so that's hardy relevant.01:33
Kaiserwhere can i find the checksum of the ubuntu iso`? got a failed with code 1 error ;(01:34
lsuactiafnerblackbox is still best01:34
Razor-Xanathema_: ... hard to read?01:34
doogluscan you recommend a terminal-based mail reader that's not mutt?01:34
anathema_that bg picture01:34
Blairthey should try to minimize install HASSLES01:34
cafuego_Kaiser: It should be in the same location you downloaded the ISO from.01:34
anathema_really messes with your contrast01:34
anathema_heh01:34
lsuactiafnerok bleh night01:34
maynothanyone got info on how to create a root account in breezy or where I can go in the forums to find out?01:34
Blairchecking for arp would keep them from dhcp'ing01:34
Cyrusanyone know what i should do01:34
josh43TFP_, Not sure then.. if you installed the plugin, it should work.. possibly a reboot?01:34
Cyruswith a debootstrap error?01:34
dooglusKaiser: use bittorrent and it will 'fix' the .iso for you01:34
Razor-Xanathema_: oh yeah, when text hits the image, it gets hairy, but, I always divide my screen in half, and an IRC channel is up top, and my homework is on bottom01:34
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josh43maynoth, wiki.ubuntu.com01:34
Razor-Xanathema_: that way, if I can't read something on an IRC channel, it's not that important, but it becomes a pain if it's homework01:35
ethan-allisonwhat does "unrecognized image file format" mean01:35
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anathema_hah yeah01:35
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anathema_i like to read it all :D01:35
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Kaiserok.. thanks :)01:35
KyralAnyone know how painful Breezy -> Sid would be?01:35
Razor-Xethan-allison: the image's file format wasn't recognized?01:35
anathema_Kyral: shudde01:35
anathema_r01:35
TFP_josh43: first open vlc and then go to apple.com and search for a trailer?01:35
lsuactiafnerRazor-X : i do the same, but watch a movie + icq + abiword + browse.. tho broser i put in background most of the time01:35
bimberimaynoth: the root account is there, it's just disabled, "sudo passwd" to set a password01:35
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Blairsetup is silly, it keeps re-partitioning a disk that was partitioned correctly the first time i ran setup...it doesn't offer a "just accept the partitioning" option01:35
ethan-allisonRazor-X: what does it imply01:35
mustard5maynoth, if you give root a password, you will have a root account .... sudo passwd root...i think it is01:35
dooglusKaiser: md5sums are here: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS01:35
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: if you see my screenshot, check the top right01:35
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Kyralanathema_, hmm01:35
maynoththank you01:35
Blairhave to infer it from the "manual configuration"01:35
KyralMaybe a weekend project :D01:35
[A] lex_Ozhow come the dvd iso's are not out yet?01:35
anathema_haha yeah01:35
TiMiDoBlair: then learn how to partition right01:35
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lsuactiafneri think i saw it before01:36
Blairand then it doesn't work01:36
anathema_[A] lex_Oz: i also want the dvd iso01:36
Razor-Xethan-allison: hmmm, well, it implies that the format of the image isn't recognized by the program... it's not really computer speak, the program doesen't understand the format of the image01:36
CapnCookmaynoth do this01:36
ethan-allisonRazor-X: ok, maybe i was unclear01:36
CapnCooksudo passwd root01:36
ethan-allisonwhat does it mean when every PNG image throws that error and GTK is all but dead01:36
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keffyndhey all, got some issues in kaffiene, it need the win32 codecs (mplayer site is down) and libdvdcss (but cant find on apt-get)01:36
Razor-Xethan-allison: ahhh01:36
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Razor-Xethan-allison: what program are you using to view your image?01:36
CapnCooknow type in your root password and u are all set01:36
ethan-allisonRazor-X: i'm not viewing images01:37
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ethan-allisonthe panel and gaim are throwing them01:37
mustard5tell keffynd about restrictedformats01:37
Deterministerm, have the repositories changed upon the official release of breezy?01:37
josh43keffynd, You want a cheat to get all of them?01:37
Razor-Xethan-allison: hmmmm.... is this on breezy, or just hoary?01:37
Blairso then i do exactly the same thing and it starts partitioning...01:37
mustard5!tell keffynd about restrictedformats01:37
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ethan-allisonhoary01:37
Blairthat didn't seem right01:37
maynoththanks! :)01:37
Blairhoary's a good word here01:37
CapnCookyour welcom01:37
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Razor-Xethan-allison: try restarting X, by using Ctrl+Alt+Bksp01:37
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lsuactiafnerrootshell.be/~edc/bb0.jpg <-- thats a nice desktop01:38
lsuactiafnermplayer -rootwin, ie, the background is kate moss pole dancing01:38
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maynothill brb01:38
ethan-allisonRazor-X: i'm a DontZap guy, but i tried restarting X/the comp but no avail01:38
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Linoobuxholy cow, 668 people01:38
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Razor-Xethan-allison: hmmm.... try reinstalling ubunt desktop using apt-get then01:38
lsuactiafnermake 2 ppl leave quick01:38
lsuactiafnerheh01:38
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Linoobuxhey I was thinking of downloading ubuntu for the first time, can I install it from the live cd iso?01:38
Linoobuxor just the install iso01:38
josh43Linoobux, Just the install01:39
Razor-Xethan-allison: ``sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop''01:39
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lsuactiafnerLinoobux : just install iso01:39
CapnCookethan-allison did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:39
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[A] lex_Ozsomeone told me to go to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ for the dvd iso, is this the release version?01:39
ethan-allisonCapnCook: no01:39
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: you do know i'm running more than one program in my screenshot? :P01:39
Linoobuxthanks a lot01:39
CapnCookgive that a try01:39
Blairwould someone like to confirm that the .iso is really just a scripted version of an over-the-network installation? because when it gets to "Iinstalling the base system" it says "retrieving" and complains about "couldn't download" when it cacks01:39
[A] lex_Ozit's the only mirror i can find it on01:39
thenukehttp://80.81.189.232/d//00/60/43/73/19493415.jpg  "sweet wiener"01:39
pipoun[hoary to breezy]  heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp folks I have a problem of dependecies with openoffice.org2-help-en-us01:39
lsuactiafnerRazor-X : well, i minimised mine to shwo the background (:01:39
pipounI can't fix it with apt-get -f install01:39
lsuactiafnerload average: 1.27, 1.24, 1.19 <-- shows how much i'm running01:40
thudfooDid ubuntu version 5.10 release today?01:40
crimsunBlair: if you don't want it to try network install, then make sure it doesn't find a network connection during the prob01:40
josh43thudfoo, Yes01:40
crimsune01:40
john__HEY GUYS GET OFF THE REPOS!01:40
john__you mongers01:40
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guru54lol01:40
[A] lex_Ozhahah01:40
reikiI hope this ain't TOO dumb a question... I know the servers are slow, but if I start this upgrade (via apt), is there any reason I wouldn't be able to continue to use my system while it's downloading? I'd probably stop doing anything when it's about ready to actually install stuff01:40
crimsunjohn__: hey, use a mirror ;-)01:40
bubuI finally got xmms working, but the music it playes is really loud. Cant controll sound level with program or in sound control. Whats that? Help!01:40
thudfoothanx, josh4301:40
guru54im guessing the servers are still being killed?01:40
ScatterBrainpipoun: I ran into that last night.  Just keep trying the apt-get -f install.  It'll fail a *bunch* of times and then it will just go on.01:40
josh43guru54, Very much so01:41
john__crimsun, such as?01:41
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bimberireiki: no, just keep working :)01:41
Razor-Xreiki: how good are you with reiki? :P, and the wait is 6 hours, or so01:41
crimsunjohn__: topic?01:41
pipounScatterBrain you sure? that's so strange?01:41
guru54i doubt theres a use for me to start trying to get some apps01:41
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Razor-Xlsuactiafner: I have no background01:41
JaivazI'm having a problem with my splash screen01:41
Xyc0Anyone have a torrent for 5.10?01:41
lsuactiafnerbubu : run alsamixer01:41
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: the background of ratpoison is the background for my dm01:41
bubuok01:41
reikiRazor-X: I am a Master/Teacher and 6 hours don't sound terrible if I start it and go to bed :)01:41
JaivazI set up the image I want yet it doesn't show up01:41
CapnCookguru54 i've been downloading the k7 kernel for over an hour now01:41
JaivazIt only shows the default debian one01:41
ScatterBrainpipoun: I thought so too, but that's what happened when I went from hoary --> breezy last night.01:41
Razor-Xreiki: o_O wow, would you try and teach me?01:41
lsuactiafnerRazor-X : animated backgronud is nice, sometimes i run ghost in the shell 2 or fight club as the background01:41
john__crimsun, sweet01:41
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Razor-Xlsuactiafner: :P01:42
CapnCookshould've been done in about 1 minute or less lol01:42
ScatterBrainpipoun: Everything is working fine today....01:42
lsuactiafnersomething to look at01:42
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naliothlsuactiafner: you Nerd!01:42
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: like I said, no sugar for me :P01:42
reikiRazor-X: sure... c'mon over01:42
reiki:)01:42
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Xyc0Why did they take out the terminal option when you click on desktop?01:42
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lsuactiafnerheh01:42
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: but, that's why my Konsole background is Vash01:42
pipounScatterBrain I've tryed it a dozen time, this doesn't work :'(01:42
Razor-Xreiki: meh01:42
lsuactiafnerFri Oct 14 01:42:00 SAST 200501:42
lsuactiafnernight ppl01:42
ScatterBrainXyc0: I don't know but it suxors!01:42
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Xyc0ScatterBrain: I hear you on that one01:42
Razor-XThu Oct 13 16:42:47 2005, that's what C-t a gives me :P01:43
maynothok I got the root password changed but it wont let me log on01:43
maynothwhat do I do next01:43
thirsoI'm trying to install Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT Ethernet Network Adapter's driver(wasnt detected) but i have to do a 'make all' to install it and im getting this error: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png01:43
BlairIT DIDN'T CREATE /TARGET/VAR/LOG/BOOTSTRAP.LOG01:43
Xyc0Anyone have a torrent for 5.10, downloads are too slow from the servers01:43
CapnCookgo to a terminal and su password01:43
ScatterBrainpipoun: You are going from hoary to breezy, right?01:43
bubulsuactiafner. Alsamixers PCM doesnt affect the level at all :(01:43
pipounrigth01:43
Blairso why did it tell me to look there for the log?01:43
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maynothi did change the password but it says it cannot log in from this screen01:44
Blairdoes anyone know why this release was marked as "stable"?01:44
CapnCookto change the gnome logon you have to configure it on the log on screen but I don't remember where01:44
Razor-Xreiki: I would wait if I were you (i'm waiting) only to let the maintainers and developers work out the initial bugs01:44
pipounScatterBrain: right01:44
ScatterBrainpipoun: Instead of the apt-get -f install, try apt-get -f dist-upgrade.01:44
Razor-Xreiki: and to wait for the line to thin, a bit01:44
maynothhaha i was thinking the same thing blair01:44
pipounokaye01:44
mustard5maynot, hit CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to login prompt and CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to gnome01:44
stimpiemaynoth, you cant login as root01:44
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ScatterBrainpipoun: It took about 10 or 12 times, but it finally got passed it.01:44
mustard5maynoth, hit CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to login prompt and CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to gnome01:44
CapnCookyes you can01:44
vmxhow can i change the "LANGUAGE" env variable? can i use a tool (i don't want to break anything if i would do it manually)01:44
maynoththanks01:44
CapnCookyour welcome01:44
Blaircrap...01:44
Razor-Xmaynoth: you _can_ login as root, but again, it needs more console messing01:44
Blairnow the shell crashed01:44
hajikithirso, did you do 'apt-get install build-essential' ?01:44
Razor-Xmaynoth: in Linux, advanced tasks really need the console, it comes part and parcel01:45
Blairi think it took a ctrl-C as a quit signal01:45
CapnCookhe's already done that Razor-X01:45
bimberimaynoth: root logon from GDM is disabled (because it's not good security), you can enable it if you must - System -> Admin -> Login Screen Setup, Security tab01:45
josh43cafuego, Quick question, since you mentioned it.. is it a noticable speed difference on things like compile or encoding on 64bit vs 32? like 40% or more?01:45
Razor-Xmaynoth: the simple thing is: make a desktop shortcut that executes: ``gksu nautilus'' and it should run nautilus in root mode01:45
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Razor-Xmaynoth: that way, you can destroy whatever you want to destroy01:45
thirsohajiki: nope, do i have to be connect to get it thru apt?01:45
mustard5maynoth, what do you need root access for?01:45
naliothjosh43: it's all about clock cycles01:45
bubulsuactiafner, aslamixer dont help me01:46
hajikithirso, probably, unless you have the cd handy01:46
Blairhmmm01:46
Blairchicken and egg problem01:46
thirsohajiki: yeah i do01:46
Blairi want to run md5sum on /cdrom...01:46
thirsohajiki: man if that works ill love you forever ive been posting this everywhere :~01:46
Blairbut it won't treat the iso as a iso when it's burned to a cd01:46
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zburnsCan't load Ubuntu (IDE-CD Rom) when Debian 3.1r0a used to run on this machine01:46
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hajikithirso, make sure your network repositorys are off, and it should try to use the cd instead01:46
Xyc0Anyone know of a torrent site that had Ubuntu 5.10?01:47
Xyc0has*01:47
yoink_err...no text is showing up in my firefox after dist-upgrade...sorry but w/o a browser i cant try to solve this on my own...01:47
dooglusBlair: use dd to reads the iso as an iso...01:47
hajikiXyc0, i used the one on slashdot and it downloaded in about 30 minutes01:47
zburnsBreezy - is there a way to fix this?01:47
thirsohajiki: i have no internet on linux, im on windows right now, i need the adapter for my dsl :/01:47
Blairdoog...refresh me on the options01:47
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josh43thirso, Choke your isp01:47
hajikithirso, oh just run that command then, it should work01:47
Xyc0hajiki: awsome thanks01:47
dooglusBlair: just as soon as I've refreshed myself...  :)01:47
Blairdd if=/cdrom | md5sum ??01:47
josh43thirso, USB adsl/network adapters aree a horrible horrible thing01:47
thirsomy isp support doesnt even know what ping is01:48
josh43thirso, What isp? sbc?01:48
dooglusBlair: I think that's in.  except it's /dev/cdrom or something like that isn't it?01:48
hajikimy isp tells me they dont support linux01:48
hajikithey are retarded01:48
stimpieXyc0, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/01:48
thirsojosh43: nah im from brazil01:48
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mustard5hajiki, most ISP's I know say that01:48
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dooglushajiki: my ISP told me it was impossible to use their service with Linux.  so I did it anyway.01:48
josh43thirso, Lol.. I knew it was going to be something like that as soon as I assumed it was US adsl ;)01:48
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pipounScatterBrain: this doesn't work I have the same error01:49
Blairk doog...that's the command (at least it seems right testing it on a small file)01:49
thirsojosh43: heh01:49
hajikidooglus, mine said i wasnt allowed to use it on anything other than Mac OS X, or Windows01:49
zcat[1] 'unsupported' just means they won't help you. If your DSL uses ordinary ethernet and DHCP, you can just plug in any linux distro and it'll work with no configuration at all...01:49
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ScatterBrainpipoun: Just keep repeating it.  I promise it'll make it through.01:50
dooglushajiki: probably because Linux is "just a hacking tool".  I mean, if you're not a hacker then why aren't you satisfied with Windows?01:50
hajikilol01:50
ScatterBrainpipoun: Or it did for me.01:50
Blairbut it won't work on /cdrom01:50
dooglusBlair: /dev/cdrom01:50
Blairlooks like it checksums the directory01:50
Blairah01:50
Blairjust a sec01:50
Blairduh01:50
Gregerdooglus, what is it to like with windows?01:50
pipounScatterBrain luky you are, ut thanks for the help01:50
hajikibleh im a sysadmin i dont need no support, i am the support01:50
Blairnope01:50
dooglusdd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum01:50
Blair"No such file or directory"01:50
Gregerlinux is free and its getting to being a great desktop OS as well01:51
dooglusGreger: parse error, line 101:51
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thirsoaight im gonna try that or ill have to get another ethernet card :( thanks hajiki01:51
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dooglusBlair: you don't have /dev/cdrom?01:51
Razor-Xwow, the majority if othe ratpoison users are Dvorak, it seems :P01:51
hajikithirso, that should work, it seems lke your missing the kernel sources. that command should install them for you01:51
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Nomikoswas upgrading via apt-get but lost network, so for a lot of packages it shows timeout errors now.. will it fetch those later?01:51
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Blairah... /dev/cdrom/cdrom001:51
thirsohajiki: i had to apt-get install make , does that help to get to a conclusion?01:51
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dooglusok...  on my system /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/hdc.01:52
hajikithirso, thats part of what build-essential does01:52
Blairnow it's cooking01:52
Blairwhirrrrrrrrrrrrrr....01:52
dooglusNomikos: it will carry on from where it got to, don't worry.01:52
thirsoaight bbl01:52
hajikithirso, but your still missing the rest of the good stuff :)01:52
da_bon_bonwhy does upgradenotes tell us to remove and reinstall firefox ? it never conflicted for me !01:52
yoink_err...no text is showing up in my firefox after dist-upgrade...sorry but w/o a browser i cant try to solve this on my own...01:52
Blairand you wonder how a botch like windoze could ever have supplanted an EASY TO USE system like unix...01:52
quamit doesnt. it says remove one if you have both installed01:52
dooglusNomikos: try using "ftp://" instead of "http://" in your /etc/apt/sources.list - that can help if the web server is overloaded01:53
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Nomikosdooglus: is was my router that went down :-.01:53
Nomikos*ut01:53
Nomikos*it (curses)01:53
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Blairokay...so here's the big question:   --- once i've calculated the checksum of the disk iso, where is the checksum stored for me to compare it to see if it's right?01:53
dooglusBlair: how would you find the md5sum of a CD in Windows?  I wouldn't know how to, other than using Nero or something to read it to disk, then using cygwin's md5sum.exe or some such.01:53
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Blaircygwin's dd should work the same01:54
mirakhello01:54
Nomikosdooglus: but filed for future reference :)01:54
anto9usyoink_: I had that problem with preview version, a reboot actually sorted it for me01:54
redtechdoes anyone have or have access to a HP Pavilion n5425 laptop?01:54
Blairhmm...don't think it worked right01:54
mirakI have a problem with the vnc clients vncviewer01:54
eoloi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a friend's computer but the ethernet is not recognized by the install process BUT it'an rtl8139 card!!! Someone got ideas?? (ubuntu 5.10 on asus l1400 (l1000 series))01:54
Blair"dd: cdrom0: Input/output error"01:54
mirakI can scrool the window01:54
mirakbut only from top to bottom01:54
dooglusBlair: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS01:54
yoink_anto9us, k, thanks, well i already started reinstalling firefox, but ill reboot after01:54
mirakit doesn't work the other way around01:54
mirakso I am stcuk01:54
dooglusBlair: you can find the correct sums there01:54
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mirakstuck01:54
[A] lex_Ozdamn i have an rtl8139 card, that means i will have problems too? :p01:55
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Blairyeah...k...checking...not even close01:55
dooglusBlair: sounds like a bad burn to me.  try another...01:55
Blairlooks like the disk is bad or something01:55
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guru54what avg speed are you guys getting from the servers?01:55
Blairyarp01:55
dooglusmd5sums are never close- they're right or miles off...01:55
Blairyet another go-round...this time i'll turn down the burn speed from 40X to 24X or something01:55
D1hows breezy going for ya'll?01:55
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Kaiserguru54: i downloaded it with 120kb/s from the german server01:55
D1I just got it into my laptop.01:55
D1runs greeeeeeeeaaaaaaat!01:55
Blairmiles...all i had to do was check the first digit...just like last night's powerball... :D01:56
oddietacoi am trying to upgrade to breezy.  i am following the directions in the wiki.  when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i am told 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.  what's going on?01:56
Blairback in 3001:56
dooglusguru54: I was getting arounf 250kb/s off the i386 install torrent01:56
guru54updates and apps Kaiser01:56
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john__Bit torrent all the way01:56
dooglusguru54: with around a 250b/s upload - a ratio of 1000:1 :)01:56
guru54i got it at 300kbs already off the "rest of the world" server :p01:56
Kaiserah.. ok01:56
Kvarkis there any way to navigate the home dir in the same way as the programs menu?01:57
bimberioddietaco: did you update hoary to breezy in sources.list and then sudo apt-get update?01:57
[A] lex_Ozany clue about the dvd iso?01:57
Xyc0gah, i can't get the torrent file cause its on the same server as the damned ISOs01:57
anto9usKvark: ctrl-L01:57
bimberi[A] lex_Oz: i reckon that address you've found is correct01:57
dooglusXyc0: you can get it from a less busy server01:57
dooglusXyc0: try http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent for instance01:58
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VR^can anyone tell me how i can start another windowmanager (icewm) without rebooting? i did replace --icewm, but i get the message, "01:58
Kvarkanto9us, in nautilus i guess?01:58
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VR^Another window manager already running, exiting...01:58
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[A] lex_Ozbimberi then why isn't it accessible through the official site?01:58
oddietacobimberi:  yeah.  i copied the stuff in the apt-get section into my /etc/apt/sources.list.  in fact, apt-get spits out this during the update ....  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the01:58
oddietaco## distribution.01:58
oddietacodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted01:58
oddietacodeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted01:58
oddietaco## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'01:58
oddietaco## repository.01:58
[A] lex_Ozno link to this page01:58
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oddietaco## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu01:58
krisican someone help me get my touchpad working?01:58
anto9usKvark: yes, will bring up address bar which will predict as you type01:58
oddietaco## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to01:58
oddietaco## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in01:58
Xyc0dooglus: Iwhy thank you, that one worked01:58
oddietaco## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security01:58
oddietaco## team.01:58
oddietacodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted01:58
dooglusVR^: log out, and chose a different 'session' from the login screen.  no need to reboot01:58
oddietacodeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted01:58
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oddietacodeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted01:58
hajikiSTOP!01:58
oddietacodeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted01:58
oddietacodeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe01:58
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oddietacodeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe01:58
da_bon_bonoddietaco: nooo...01:58
concept10cafuego, you paying attention?01:58
oddietacooops.01:58
tristanmikeoddietaco, you can't paste in here01:59
btdownd00d dont be pastin in here01:59
dooglusyum!01:59
Kvarkwhat i meant was to click an icon on the gnome panel, then a list of everything in the home dir drops down01:59
tristanmikeoddietaco, read /topic01:59
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oddietacocertainly didn't mean to do that guys.  sorry about that01:59
Kvarkand when you move your mouse over one of the dirs in that list a list of everything in that dir drops down next to the first list01:59
[N] ameoddietaco, dude you cant post in like that01:59
VR^dooglus: yeah but i thought i could do it without a log-out or reboot01:59
Kvarklike the programs menu on the panel01:59
gabriel=PP01:59
bimberi[A] lex_Oz: not sure why, but it is on *.ubuntu.com, and i saw someone mention it on #ubuntu-devel last night (oz time)01:59
Xyc0Yey!02:00
[A] lex_Ozoh, ok bimberi tnx :)02:00
dooglusVR^: I know some window managers offer a list of a few other window managers on their menus, but it seems to be very ad-hoc...  I don't know if it's possible in general to switch.02:00
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bimberi[A] lex_Oz: yw :)02:00
VR^dooglus: k, thanks much02:00
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Xyc0Now i need to tear apart the "registry" to put Terminal back on the desktop right click menu02:00
sudonimMy xserver does not start after the upgrading from hoary. Is there a quick fix to get the binary nvidia drivers working again?02:00
thesilentkillerin thunderbird, different accounts can be handled separetely (with different inboxes, sent, trash, etc). can the same effect be produced in evolution?02:00
dooglusVR^: you could try "pkill metacity; twm &" in a shell - but you might find everything falls apart...02:00
Jubeihey all02:00
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josh43VR^: You can log into another window manager without a reboot, but it means you are running both simultaneously02:01
ethan-allisondidn't do anything02:01
Jubeianyone got nvidia working on 5.1002:01
anto9usKvark: there may be a panel applet that does that, I don't know though02:01
mustard5Jubei, yeah02:01
sudonimJubei: I am asking the same question.02:01
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josh43sudonim, Replace xorg.conf with a backup?02:01
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Jubeimustad5 can you give a hand?02:02
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bimberioddietaco: well, that sources.list looks ok :P02:02
WebLOCHHello all02:02
Blairwell, now i know why installation crapped out...my iso was only 160 MB long!02:02
mustard5Jubei, I followed instructions, so I am not much help02:02
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Jubeiurl?02:02
Blairdamned firefox downloader give no indication that a download fails02:02
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[A] lex_Ozlol02:03
Xyc0What is the name of the package that puts Terminal back on the right-click on desktop menu?02:03
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WebLOCHAnyone up for giving me some help with nvidia-glx ?02:03
mustard5!tell Jubei about nvidia02:03
Blairi'm gonna go download until i puke or it does02:03
WebLOCH!tell me about nvidia02:03
sudonimWebLOCH: Seems there are a bunch of us having problems. Did you upgrade or clean install?02:03
WebLOCHsudonim used a clean install02:03
sudonim!tell me about nvidia02:04
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mustard5Jubei, there was a thread on the forum too, about installing the nvidia binary drivers02:04
irvini installed breezy since preview release and i constantly keep it updated. my sources.list still has the deb cdrom line, is it safe to comment it out?02:04
WebLOCHsudonim, thats just the binary guide, i followed it through to make sure, but it hasnt solved anything02:04
bimberiXyc0: nautilus-open-terminal02:04
naliothirvin: yes it is02:04
Xyc0bimberi: awsome thanks02:04
maynothdoes anyone know an easy way to delete locked (root) folders?02:04
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sudonimyeah. I had it working in hoary, upgraded and it is broken02:04
maynothor an easy way to create a root account02:04
bimberiXyc0: yw :)02:04
maynothI cannot find anything in the forums02:04
SupIAmMikewhat happened to "root terminal"02:05
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WebLOCHAny takers?02:05
Xyc0Its too late in the game for Gnome to take terminal out02:05
maynothseems a little silly just to reformat to delete a few locked folders02:05
sudonimmaynoth: "sudo rm" does not work02:06
sudonim?02:06
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maynothi dunno I dont use CLI02:06
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sudonimmaynoth: open up a terminal, or use the run command and type "sudo nautilus"02:06
ethan-allisonRazor-X: didn't work02:06
sudonimthen you wont have to02:07
mustard5Jubei, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924&highlight=nvidia+binary+install02:07
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jcmcbethHow do you make the page number in a footer not appear on the first page in openofficer writer?02:07
flodinea guys help breezy ? w32codecs not in repositories02:07
bimberiubotu tell flodine about w32codecs02:07
ethan-allisonflodine: http://mplayerhq.hu02:07
stperehmm.. I changed my source.list file to update to breezy, did apt-get update, then changed my mind and changed sources.list again to return to hoary02:07
stperenow it still wants to update a lot of package when I want to install a simple package (gdesklet)02:08
ethan-allisonok so GTK isn't working and PNG images aren't working02:08
ethan-allisonany ideas guys?02:08
stpereis there a quick way to "reset" the apt db?02:08
krisihow can i get my touchpad working? it works in knoppix02:08
bimberistpere: did you redo apt-get update02:08
ethan-allisoni tried apt-get --reinstall insall ubuntu-desktop02:08
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stperebimberi, yes02:08
bimberistpere: after changing back to hoary?02:08
ethan-allisoni tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg02:08
bimberistpere: ah02:09
jxpxhow can i see the version of my linux?02:09
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hajikijxpx, uname -a02:09
IcemanV9jxpx: uname -r02:09
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mustard5Jubei, I'm in my second Breezy installation installing nvdia-glx now, not binary drivers02:09
bimberijxpx: kernel version? uname -r, ubuntu version? lsb_release -a02:09
jxpxok thanks02:09
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maynoththanks sudonin that actually worked02:10
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ethan-allisonnothing is doing anything beneficial02:10
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sudonimmaynoth: No problem02:10
maynothdo you know how to set up windows drives to automount each time you log on02:10
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maynoththey disapear each time I reboot02:11
Rev-Marcis there a help channel for Bittorent?02:11
flodineare there repositories i should use that are new02:11
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sudonimmaynoth: well, it requires you to add an entry into the fstab02:11
B_166-ER-Xwhat is the command to run a .tar.bz2 file ?02:11
sudonimmaynoth /etc/fstab02:11
maynothsounds painful02:11
k_ubuntuhi, sig!02:11
maynothmaybe I should just wait for xandros402:11
sudonimmaynoth: not too bad. Let me see if I can find the ubuntu docs on it02:11
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bimberimaynoth: /msg ubotu windowsdrives  (needs cli though)02:11
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Rev-Marchow do I get a list of the channels?02:12
k_ubuntusif: I read some logs about the ubuntu kernel panic02:12
k_ubuntusig: I read some logs about the ubuntu kernel panic02:12
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maynothahh... I dunno... I will wait I think maybe another year or two...  maybe then the cli wont be necessary02:12
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bimberiB_166-ER-X: you can extract it with tar -xvjf <file>02:12
anto9usmaynoth: in Breezy it's System | Administration | Disks02:12
maynothand autopackage will ahve time to have evolved more02:12
n0odl3what is cntrl break?02:12
btdownd00d cli is the best part of an OS02:12
B_166-ER-Xthnx02:13
k_ubuntusig: you use the ecs k7s5a? or am I wrong?02:13
n0odl3what is control break?02:13
maynothyeah I did the sys admin disks but its a pain to redo it everytime you reboot02:13
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bimberimaynoth: i thought it was you, what happened to your peerage (Lord_)?02:13
ivanodenhix02:13
sudonimmaynoth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:13
sudonimthat may be a better link for you02:14
IcemanV9maynoth: did you read what ubotu just send you about windowsdrives?? it's easy .. really.02:14
ivanodeni have problems with apt-get02:14
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ivanodenGPGv02:14
Rev-Marchow do I get a list of the channels?02:14
sorush20my sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart hangs I don't know why?02:14
ivanodenhow to add new signature?02:14
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k_ubuntusig: are you here?02:14
sudonimIcemanV9: ubotu should be updated with the link I posted02:14
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anto9usRev-Marc: /msg chanserv list <pattern>02:15
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keffyndmstoopid question no#1: is there a way to mount Ext3 in Windows and NTFS (writeable) in Ubuntu?02:15
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josh43ok, one more question about a64 vs 32: If I define a home partition, can I just boot between the 2 and keep the same setting s for things like gnome layout?02:15
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sorush20kl02:16
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Rev-Marcanto9us thank you very much,02:16
satafterhwhere are the dvd versions kept02:16
IcemanV9sudonim: same info, but two different places :)02:16
Sonderbladewhich package do i need to download to get the Terminal font?02:16
sudonimyeah. I thought the wiki was a little clearer - but thats just me02:16
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XenthroCan anybody give me the quick route to installing ATI drivers?02:17
hajiki!ati02:17
ubotusomebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1002:17
kbrookshey02:17
kbrooksjust wanted to inform yall02:17
IcemanV9maynoth: does it (info on windows drive) help ya? don't give up. :)02:17
josh43Xenthro, listen to ubotu02:17
bimberiubotu no windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:17
ubotubimberi: okay02:17
kbrookspida  (a ide) is in ubuntu02:17
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chiddyi see the new breezy sources.list has the backports added already, but what do we use for breezy-extras now... or is it still the same as before?02:18
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maynoththats way to complicated just to mount windows drives....  I will wait till dapper02:18
stperehow can I use the /var/backups/dpkg* files?02:18
Xenthrothank you!!02:18
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stperecan I use them to go back to yesterday's state?02:18
dooglusjosh43: sure, why not?02:18
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josh43maynoth, Just run linneighborhood02:18
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maynothmaybe in a year or two... I really just need to give up on linux until autopackage evolves more anywho02:18
josh43dooglus, Is that to my "dual linux boot" question?02:18
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olivasi just installed ubuntu and my keyboard doesn't work02:19
olivashas anyone had problems like this?02:19
dooglusjosh43: to your "can I share a /home partition between two breezy's", yes02:19
Razor-Xolivas: USB or PS/2 keyboard?02:19
Razor-Xor other?02:19
olivasit's a laptop02:19
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Razor-Xoh, meh02:19
olivasthe one that cam with it02:20
Razor-Xthe keyboard itself?02:20
ivanodenseem the reposite from breezy is worst than hoary02:20
Razor-Xno button works?02:20
olivasi get garbage when i type02:20
olivasmost keys don't work02:20
ivanodenapt-get doesn't working well02:20
KhaaaaaanHas anybody had any luck getting World of Warcraft to work on Breezy??02:20
k_ubuntuhi, has anyone a ecs k7s5a (pro)? I get kernel panics during setup after first reboot in the local system. Is there any solution?02:21
sudonimivanoden: whats the problem?02:21
josh43dooglus, Perfect, thanks02:21
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jrattner1If ive been connected to ubuntu510 install i386 iso for 1 hour and 30 minutes is it normal to only be getting 3.5 KB/S????02:21
_TemujinWhat's the best viewer/plugin for WMV or ASF files...02:21
ivanodensudonim, i have update02:21
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ivanodenbut it only success after several times02:21
naliothjrattner1: how many times do we have to tell you? there are thousands of people hitting the servers02:21
Xenthro_no... I was getting 250 kb/s02:21
elad`So, how do I upgrade to 5.10?02:21
Khaaaaaanjrattner1, yea on the 1st day of release... the servers are getting hammered02:21
jrattner1nalioth, i only ask cause i love you02:21
btdowneveryone and their brother is downloading/updating...the mirrors will be slow for a few days02:22
dooglusivanoden: try using ftp:// instead of http:// in your sources.list02:22
naliothjrattner1: wait a few days for the initial surge to die down02:22
IcemanV9jrattner1: find a different mirror site02:22
ivanodenand now i can't install a package like hping2, sudonim02:22
Razor-Xolivas: hmmm, do you use a special keyboard layout?02:22
josh43Can I log someone out without switching to them? we are both running gnome, and I can just do 'su <user>', but logout doesn't work there02:22
ivanodenok, i'll try dooglus02:22
[A] lex_Ozwhy dont u use bittorent?02:22
olivasi never had to before02:22
naliothjosh43: applications > system tools > new login02:22
elad`Wax: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>02:22
thirsojosh43: gah it didnt work :~02:22
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olivasrazor-x, i've been playing with different layouts for ho-hos02:23
olivasno luck thought02:23
dooglusjosh43: you could kill their processes - it's not very subtle though02:23
olivasthought02:23
josh43nalioth: That's how they are logged in, but somthing is choking the cpu, so I want to force them out gracefully withouy switching02:23
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Razor-Xolivas: what model laptop is it?02:23
naliothjosh43: as dooglus points out, kill all their processes02:23
olivasfujitsu N3010 lifebook02:23
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josh43thirso, What didn't? (bad memory)02:23
Razor-Xolivas: mmmkay02:23
thirsojosh43: my ethernet02:23
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josh43dooglus, No option for a command-line logout as su?02:24
ciusHoly cow guys!  you won't believe what I just got!   what a dream machine...02:24
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dooglusjosh43: or run 'top' to see which process is the naughty one, and kill that.  just send it a HUP:  kill -HUP <processid>02:24
elad`How come Synaptic tells me gnome isn't installed (but some of its dependant packages are), when I'm *using* it?02:24
k_ubuntuhi, has anyone a ecs k7s5a (pro)? I get kernel panics during setup after first reboot in the local system. Is there any solution? (if you answer, please write my nick, soit gets highlighted in my xchat)02:24
josh43dooglus: I think that's going to be the best option, thanks02:24
thirsoTrying to install my network adapter's driver: http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot39du.jpg halp halp :~02:24
dooglusjosh43: I'm not clear what you're looking for - are they ssh-ing into your box?  or running GNOME on a different display?02:24
irvini get this error on mplayer... New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)02:24
josh43thirso, It wasn't me that was helping you with that, sorry02:24
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thirsojosh43 yeah i know02:25
josh43dooglus, Gnome on a differnet display through "new login"02:25
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cius Pentium 75, 16 megs of ram, a whole 1 gig hard drive, how am I ever going to use all that?!!!02:25
Cosinehey, how do i access my ntfs partitions in ubuntu?02:25
davidxlol @ cius02:25
josh43cius, lol - 640K?? noone's ever going to need more than that ;)02:25
davidxubuntu-console :D02:26
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ciusits great, I"m gonna install DOOM3 on it and pwn all!02:26
Cosinei've tried the disk thing under system->administration02:26
Razor-Xolivas: after some quick googling... it seems that it's pretty finicky to get to work with most laptops02:26
Razor-Xolivas: does the Ubuntu live CD work?02:26
ivanodendooglus, hihi, ftp work well02:26
ivanodenthank your advise02:27
Cosinei can click browse and see it, but using the file browser it tells me i don't have the proper permissions02:27
olivasrazor-x, no i get the same behavior with the live cd02:27
viniciodoes anybody knows how to configure a proxy server or at least give internet service to other computher with ubuntu02:27
viniciodoes anybody knows how to configure a proxy server or at least give internet service to other computher with ubuntu02:27
ethan-allisonhow do i open a terminal if i can't right-click on the desktop, ctrl+alt+f[1-6]  aren't working, and there's no panel?02:27
reikiso in sources I want breezy main restricted AND breezy-security main restricted AND breezy-updates main restricted?  like that?  and comment out anything else in sources.list? (like universe and multiverse ?)02:27
Razor-Xolivas: hmmm... have you tried the Knoppix Live CD?02:27
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ciusso, anyone know of anything to actually *use* this beast for?  I'm thinking mp3 player myself.  kinda like an ipod, only 2 cubic feet in side and approximately 20 pounds...almost portable02:27
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ethan-allisoncius: make a lightweight distro with it02:28
ThomasMethan-allison: What desktop manager?02:28
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arcanistherogueethan-allison, :D02:28
olivasrazor-x, no i haven't, but i have tried different flavors of linux02:28
starscallingherrow!02:28
Razor-Xcius: I thought up a design for a very small MP3 player, slightly larger than an iPod02:28
ethan-allisonThomasM: gnome202:28
ciusethan-allison, thats what I'm thinking02:28
hajikia02:28
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dooglusivanoden: glad I could help.  you might want to switch back in a few days.  I generally find http is quicker unless the web server is struggling to keep up02:28
Razor-Xolivas: Knoppix has wonderful default compatibility, i'm asking so that we can get you to use that driver on this laptop02:28
=== starscalling hopes this works good!
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durtthirso, you might need the restricted modules or the kernel headers or something02:28
ThomasMcius: Turn it into a closet box that never gets turned off.  Keep processes that you want running all the time on it.02:28
olivasi'll give it a shot02:28
josh43cius, The p75?02:29
Razor-Xolivas: if it works on Knoppix, I know it works on Fedora Core 1 (the only success story i've seen, and I don't like Fedora Core much)02:29
ciusjosh43, yea02:29
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arcanistherogueHey, i have a question about an application called "fuhquake".  I installed it via the liflg package, but when i run it the game runs great but without sound.  I get the message "/dev/dsp: Broken pipe" when i run the console command.02:29
Razor-Xcius: try something with uCLinux02:29
ThomasMethan-allison: What happened that you lost right-click, panel, and the ability to switch virtual consoles?02:29
arcanistheroguehow do i fix this?02:29
starscallingthough it always seems to take around 45+ minutes to install02:29
ciusRazor-X its an x86 machine02:29
josh43cius, Network storage, ftp server, fax machine, printer host, router,02:29
olivasrazor-x, yeah i've been using FC3 for a while now, but am looking at different distros now02:29
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: try ``killall esd'' and then try starting it again02:29
thirsodurt: translating to a frustrated newbie?02:30
Razor-Xolivas: oh, so FC3 is running?02:30
ThomasMarcanistherogue: Sounds like you've not configured sound.  Do other programs do sound just fine?02:30
arcanistherogueRazor-X, tried it.02:30
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louix:-D02:30
Razor-Xolivas: can you do an ``lspci -v'' and get the output?02:30
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: same thing? hmmmm02:30
arcanistherogueThomasM, YEah, this current install of 5.04 i have had for about 1 month or two02:30
doogluscius: did you see this?  http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200gb_Instructions  - quite funny...02:30
olivasrazor-x, yeah no real problems.  worked for quiet a while.02:30
ciusjosh43, of course, network storage, I could fit like, a bazillion backups of fairy bounce on it...02:30
ThomasMarcanistherogue: Or another program might have a lock on the device.02:30
cius:-)02:30
Sionidesoo - breezy is out, does that mean doing a dist-upgrade will be cool and will not result in a bunch of problems? :)02:30
ThomasMarcanistherogue: But that usually gives you an "access denied" error.02:30
arcanistherogueRazor-X, I even did it with artsd, no dice02:30
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: try a ``cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp''02:30
josh43dooglus, That's hilarious, that thing.. 8 seconds of battery life02:30
arcanistherogueRazor-X,  what does that do?02:31
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ThomasMSionide: /topic has a link to the upgrade notes02:31
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: at the same time you would start Fuhquake02:31
dooglus8 minutes I think josh4302:31
josh43Sionide, Besides having to do it over 5+ hours ;)02:31
Sionideah brilliant02:31
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Sionideehh02:31
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: it puts the contents of /dev/random into /dev/dsp, puts random noise into your sound device02:31
Jubeianyone has gotten there nvidia on a laptop?02:31
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: this'll tell me if /dev/dsp is accessible by some other program02:31
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durtthirso, make sure you have every package the readme says you need02:31
Jubeithey seem to work, but I cant get the correct res02:31
Razor-X!nvidia02:31
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:31
arcanistheroguewiat, hold on a second, i googled "fuhquake on linux" and i got a post about the same error i have02:32
Razor-X!resolution02:32
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:32
Razor-X:P02:32
starscallingyou know02:32
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: oh, meh, I assumed you alread googled02:32
starscallingnvidia for me was even easier than that02:32
arcanistherogueRazor-X, sorry :p02:32
starscallingapt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:32
starscallingand it worked great and perfect after !02:32
ciusdooglus, holy cow thats good02:32
starscallingwell02:32
josh43cius, You would have to put more drives in it for it to be useful ;P02:32
starscallingi had to split those lines but yeah02:32
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Sionideand does anyone know the current state of play with regard to backports? as in, are there any decent repos to use?02:32
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k_ubuntuhi, has anyone a ecs k7s5a (pro)? I get kernel panics during setup after first reboot in the local system. Is there any solution? (if you answer, please write my nick, soit gets highlighted in my xchat)02:33
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Nomikoswhile apt-get is getting all the packages, is it possible to abort it, edit the repository file to also point to a CD and then restart it?02:33
doogluscius: yes, isn't it ;)  a 200Gb iPod!02:33
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: try to turn off acpi at the boot time02:33
dooglusNomikos: yes02:34
ciusjosh43, yea, its was funny, went to format the thing using a win98 bootdisk and its popped up said, "do you want to enable large drive functionality?"02:34
iani just installed the ubuntu software, i know nothing about linux, i need some-one to walk me thru installing macromedia & acobat reader02:34
dooglusNomikos: it will resume02:34
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josh43cius: LoL02:34
Jubeianyone knows how to "force" screen resolution?02:34
Razor-X!tell Jubei about resolution02:34
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Nomikosdooglus: this apt-get thing is scarily intelligent..02:34
quam!tell me about resolution02:34
SionideNomikos, quote of the day!02:34
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, should it work, if setup crashed and reboot it with the "defective" install?02:35
Razor-XNomikos: :P02:35
Nomikosyes, you may quote me :-p02:35
Razor-Xby the way...02:35
Razor-Xis it ``apt get'' or ``ay-pee-tee get'' ?02:35
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, this I already tried it and die lead to the same kernel panic02:35
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: "defective"? did you md5sum the iso & CD?02:35
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Razor-XI always said the latter02:36
arcanistherogueRazor-X, sorry to ask, but the guide just tells me what code to correct the problem with, but not where to put it.  I need to put it somewhere that tells ALSA to give the program full control over the soundcard.  Where would i put this?  like a .conf file for it or something02:36
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josh43Anyone have the ubuntu i386 combo dvd torrent?02:36
thoreauputicRazor-X: I think most people just say "apt" :P02:36
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: can I see the site?02:36
Sionidejosh43, what was that about 5+ hours?02:36
langstaffHow do I install quicktime on my puter so when I click on a link in the browser It either opens player, or playes embedded in browser ?02:36
Dr_Fatehow to I change/set my gcc?02:36
Razor-Xthoreauputic: meh, I hate doing that :P02:36
arcanistherogueRazor-X, http://www.fuhquake.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17604&sid=de16d75295f7e0c6a3733dd03ce1fedc#1760402:36
josh43Sionide, The repositories are SLAMMED02:36
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: thanks02:36
Dr_FateCC env=gcc 3.4?02:36
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Sionidejosh43, ah i see - might leave it a couple of days then?02:36
durtlangstaff: mozplugger02:37
patf1hi, i installed the version before breezy (hedgehog i think?) but i never got xorg.conf working (xorg.conf modeline issues, i think). would it make sense to just try upgrading to breezy instead of trying to fix the current install? i.e., have there been any changes to laptop support?02:37
thoreauputicRazor-X: well, the heresy hunters in #debian will no doubt find you and harass you ;-)02:37
josh43Sionide, Yeah, or do it @ 4am est02:37
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Sionideheheh02:37
Razor-XSionide: I'm doing just that02:37
litagewhat's the appeal of ubuntu over other distros such as debian, mandrake, slack, etc?02:37
Sionidei'm gmt02:37
Sionidelitage, it's better02:37
durtlitage, its easier02:37
anto9uslitage: it's prettier02:37
josh43litage, It has a benner goal02:37
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josh43benner=better02:37
langstaffdurt, what is mozplugger,. and how do I install it,. are there any dependencies02:37
IcemanV9litage: it just work "out of the box"02:37
dooglusanyone familiar with 'valgrind', and how to get it to tell me source file names and line numbers?02:38
Sionidelitage, it'll (probably) work with *all* your hardware with no extra config02:38
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, cd is ok, are md5sum probed. kernel panic gets on reboot after first part of setup. then during the second part ist has an kernel panic. Then I rebooted the pc, went to grub, set acpi=no and booted it, although the second part was not finished before.02:38
arcanistheroguelitage, because I said so.02:38
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paxjeez! everyone upgrading at the same time?!02:38
SionideRazor-X, you're leaving it a couple of days? *shrug* i think i'll do that too02:38
josh43pax: YES02:38
arcanistheroguepax, nah, im not until i get mah see deeze >_<02:38
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: acpi=off02:39
Sionidearcanistherogue, that could be months :s02:39
reikiso in sources I want breezy main restricted AND breezy-security main restricted AND breezy-updates main restricted?  like that?  and comment out anything else in sources.list? (like universe and multiverse ?)02:39
durtlangstaff, "apt-get install mozplugger" and you might have to configure your browser, so check with google02:39
Sionidereiki, http://tinyurl.com/dkllj02:39
arcanistherogueSionide, I preordered in september, they said they were coming a week after the release ;_;02:39
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olivasrazor-x, i didn't see your suggestion to look at 'lspci -v'02:39
arcanistherogueWell if i dont have em by the 25th ill upgrade02:39
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: unfortunately.... that's not really a suggestion02:39
Sionidearcanistherogue, hhhmm i ordered as soon as the site went live for them02:39
Sionideubuntu.wordpress.com -> rocks your world02:39
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: I don't think anyone answered the broken pipe guy02:39
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olivasrazor-x, right now i only have ubuntu installed.02:40
reikiSionide: yeah I'm reading the wiki... it's not real exact. It's basically telling me I only need one line in my sources.list ... that don't seem right but that's why I'm asking02:40
Xyc0pax: Yes... yes we are02:40
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, ok, I'll try it, I am no more sure if I have set the correct option02:40
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Razor-XSionide: I ``aptitude upgrade''d two days ago, that way, I can last out the repo slam by, at least, having the latest stuf02:40
Sionidereiki, i'd just do a find/replace hoary->breezy or whatever *shrug*02:40
arcanistherogueRazor-X, but i also found a guide that points to this, saying this solved the broken pipe problem, but that is all it said.02:40
litageSionide, durt, anto9us, josh43: those are all relative, opinionated comments; nothing factual02:40
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: hmmm, does it say which version?02:40
Sionidelitage, they're all facts though.02:40
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arcanistherogueRazor-X, which version of fuhquake, or which kernel?02:40
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, thank you in forward, I'll come back if it keeps the same02:41
Sionidelitage, i say try it and see for yourself man - it can't hurt.. get the livecd if you're that bothered :)02:41
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: I would hunt out a changelog, and see whether they were fixed, and see if the version in the repos is older02:41
reikiSionide: universe and multiverse included? or comment them out for now?02:41
Razor-X(assuming you got it from the repos)02:41
litageSionide: hah no they're not. "a is better than b" is an opinion and dependent on the situation02:41
durtlitage, its all relative, pal; thats the point of preferences02:41
Sionidereiki, include them i suppose02:41
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IcemanV9k_ubuntu: ok. :)02:41
reikiSionide: ok thanks02:41
arcanistherogueRazor-X, I used the loki installers for linux gamers version, not the repository one02:41
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: ahhh02:41
Sionidelitage, try it and see for yourself- form your own opinion02:41
litagedurt: i realize that, but i'm curious as to *why* people think ubuntu is "better", "easier", "prettier"02:41
Shadowpillarwho was the guy who had an ubuntu ppc system?02:41
ShadowpillarI need help again02:41
anto9uslitage: ask a less open question02:41
arcanistherogueRazor-X, here was the original guide i found it from http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/682/02:41
anthonyhey, i got this printer driver that's in *.gz.sh format, the readme file told me to do "sh filename.gz.sh", afterwards it says "Uncompressing Lexmark Z25-Z35 Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] " so how am i suppose to use it? i.e. how do i print stuff?02:41
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: lemme see02:41
Sionideanto9us, good point02:41
Shadowpillarubuntu boots from bootx, then locks up02:42
litageSionide: unfortunately,at the moment i don't have the time to test it out02:42
Shadowpillarand the machine restarts after 10 minutes02:42
arcanistherogueRazor-X,  it mentions sound cards and giving quake full sound card control in the second to last paragraph02:42
ice_1963icemanv9 that's a good name :0)02:42
Sionidelitage, so don't - take our word for it and install it!02:42
durtlitage: factually, i have had a much easier time with hardware in ubuntu than in slackware02:42
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Sionidewhat have you got to lose?02:42
ShadowpillarAnyone here run ubuntuppc02:42
Sionidemmm02:42
Nomikosdooglus: sorry, i try to ask as little as possible but keep coming back.. *how* do i add the cd to that file?02:42
horzawhat can i use to browse network like in windows?02:42
litageSionide: nothing but time. however, i was just curious as to why people often choose it02:42
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Sionidehorza, smb:// in nautilus should do it02:43
litagedurt: thank you. that was a valid, useful response  :)02:43
IcemanV9:)02:43
ripgutwhat do i type to get the lastest kernel02:43
durthorza, xsmbrowser02:43
bcatafter upgrading from hoary to breezy, i cannot run thunderbird anymore (segmentation fault). this seems unrelated to the new thunderbird deb, since it happens with a version downloaded from mozilla.org too. any hints?02:43
kbrooksripgut: why?02:43
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bcatanybody else experiencing this?02:43
ripguti dont have it02:43
horzathanks durt :)02:43
Sionidelitage, there are reasons why it's (in my opinion) the most popular distro02:43
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durthorza, though if you use nautilus, that works too02:43
bcati already tried deleting my profile and executing it as a new (fresh) user, no help02:43
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IcemanV9bcat: deinstall & reinstall thunderbird?02:44
horzadurt, il try nautilus first02:44
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zburnsMy Ubuntu install stops at 88% (Linux ATAPI CD-ROM)...can I fix this?02:44
ripgutget a new cd02:44
ShadowpillarAnyone here a Ubuntu Oldworld PPC user?02:44
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IcemanV9zburns: clean your CD02:45
Sionidezburns, do a burn at a slower speed02:45
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Shadowpillarcould be a faulty drive02:45
litagethanks for the info, gusy02:45
dooglusNomikos: now you're asking!  maybe you put "deb       file:/media/iso/ubuntu/              breezy          main restricted" in /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:45
HobbseeDownloading/upgrading currently is slow because of the high traffic - heh...no kiding...this is counting in bits per second for the daily updates...slower than dialup!02:45
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litages/gusy/guys/02:45
ripgutcan someone help me get the latest kernel02:45
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Shadowpillarsometimes really old drives fuck up as well02:45
zburnsIcemanV9: It's not the CD...All versions of CD stopped at this point (even RC1, etc) debian cd's burned the same way worked02:45
DavidLeeRothI have q prob.  I am trying to convert someone to linux, and theywant to know how to boot an iso without a cd burner.... Maybe a bootloader that supports this?02:45
naliothShadowpillar: be less descriptive, please02:45
Nomikosdooglus: i'll try that, thanks. did you get that online somewhere?02:45
scottIm a n00b on Ubuntu.... how do I get to the command line?02:45
ThomasMzburns: These were all burned from the same ISO?02:45
Shadowpillarzburns: swap out the cdrom drive02:45
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: I think I got your problem fixed02:46
Sonderbladei want to use the font Terminal in gnome programs which is visible when i run xfontsel but i cant select that in gnomes font selector dialog02:46
naliothscott: applications > system tools > terminal02:46
tritiumxfelon, can you please turn that off?02:46
Nomikosdooglus: if so, where and i'll write it down :)02:46
arcanistherogueRazor-X, really?02:46
IcemanV9zburns: it had happened to me before; i just cleaned the CD and it worked. oh well02:46
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: try this ``starscalling: I didn't even ned to do the latter''02:46
scottnalioth: thanks!!!02:46
bcatIcemanV9: as I said, happens with a tar.gz downloaded from mozilla.org too02:46
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: now try sound again02:46
Rev-Marchmmmm02:46
xfelonya02:46
xfeloni will tritium02:46
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: errggg02:46
tritiumthank you, xfelon :)02:46
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: meh, wrong copy and paste02:46
arcanistherogueRazor-X, wait, what?  I try this where?02:46
dooglusNomikos: no.  I got that from my own sources.list, which I got when I installed hoary.  I've since replaced 'hoary' with 'breezy' and commented that CD line out...02:46
DavidLeeRothI have q prob.  I am trying to convert someone to linux, and theywant to know how to boot an iso without a cd burner.... Maybe a bootloader that supports this?02:46
arcanistherogueRazor-X, I thought as much :p02:46
zburnsTomasM: yes.  this is a laptop built by ARM (x86 processor inside)02:46
ripgutcan someone help me get the latest kernel02:46
ripgutcan someone help me get the latest kernel02:46
dooglusNomikos: hence the '?' at the end of my suggestion...  but it looks like it should work, don't you think?02:46
tritiumevery little dB of SNR counts ;)02:46
Nomikosdooglus: ok, thanks. i'll backup the file next time i change it..02:46
ThomasMzburns: So, if every CD burned from a single ISO produces a bad CD, what would you suspect?  :)02:46
Nomikosdooglus: aye it does02:47
naliothubotu: tell ripgut about repeat02:47
scottnalioth: there is no terminal option....02:47
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: echo "fuhquake-gl.glx 0 0 direct " > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss02:47
naliothubotu: tell DavidLeeRoth about repeat02:47
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: or rather ``echo "fuhquake-gl.glx 0 0 direct " > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss''02:47
starscalling??02:47
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: do what's in the `` and ''02:47
naliothscott: you running gnome?02:47
arcanistherogueRazor-X, I just put it in terminal, and im all set?02:47
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: try it out and tell me your results, yeahp02:47
zburnsThomasM: ISO is fine, just installed Breezy to another laptop using this ISO02:47
xfeloni think i fixed it02:47
arcanistherogueRazor-X, k, hold on02:47
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scottnalioth: Yes, i have basic setup from ubuntu install CD (downloaded few days ago)02:47
Rev-MarcI am looking for the new release DVD torrents anyone have a location for them?02:47
ripgutwell i guess noone can help me02:48
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tritiumripgut, which kernel do you want?02:48
naliothscott: then applications > system tools > terminal should get you a terminal program linnk02:48
ripgutuhm, the latest?02:48
kbrooksripgut: i want to knowc why you want the latest kernel02:48
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zburnsCan't I just skip the ATAPI CD-ROM detection?02:48
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tritiumripgut, the latest in ubuntu is 2.6.1202:48
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ripguti thought it was 2.6.13?02:49
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ssdd65how do i change the dvd player location in totem?02:49
scottnalioth: Its not there, but I think i figured it out... I went to applications menu editor and checked "Root terminal"  is that it?02:49
naliothRev-Marc: www.ubuntulinux.org/download02:49
tritiumripgut, nope02:49
ripgutwhy02:49
naliothscott: nope. you're looking for regular ol' terminal02:49
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scottnalioth: Grrr, thats not an option wtf02:49
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arcanistherogueRazor-X, the echo worked fine, but equake didnt load... hold on, lemme bootup a failsafe terminal, i get best game results with those02:49
durtripgut, you'll have to compile it yourself, but you might want to know what you're doing before you do that02:49
ripgutwhat do i type to check my kernel version?02:50
tritiumuname -r02:50
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: mmmkay02:50
arcanistherogueRazor-X, ill be back in about 5 minutse, but assume if i dont return it worked02:50
TiMiDoripgut: uname -r02:50
ssdd65how do i change the dvd player location in totem?02:50
naliothtritium: whats the breezy nautilus terminal thing ?02:50
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: ok02:50
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bcatanybody able to run mozilla-thunderbird on breezy?02:50
HiddenWolfbcat, check02:50
TiMiDobcat: what's wrong?02:50
tritiumnalioth, one sec02:50
HiddenWolfbcat, i'm betting profile problem02:50
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_jasonbcat:  yes02:50
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flughwoohoo! yeah! breezy goin on server tonight! :)02:50
ripgutit says i got 2.6.12-9-38602:50
thirsoTrying to install my network adapter's driver: http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot39du.jpg halp halp :~02:50
thoreauputic!openterm02:50
ubotuTo add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package02:50
Dreamgliderwhen i do this -> sudo apt-get install firefox i get this error ->02:50
DreamgliderE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:50
DreamgliderE: Unable to lock the list directory02:50
thoreauputichmm02:50
scottnalioth: Found it... Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal02:50
tritiumnalioth, nautilus-open-terminal02:50
TiMiDoDreamglider: do not pasted please02:50
flughcongrats ubuntu on the release!02:51
ripgutit says i got 2.6.12-9-38602:51
naliothscott: you go!02:51
tritiumnice, thoreauputic :)  Did you teach ubotu that?02:51
TiMiDoripgut: so that's the kernel version you got02:51
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PennDragoncan someone please help me is there a set root password.02:51
TiMiDoPennDragon: sudo -s02:51
thoreauputictritium: yup :)02:51
scottnalioth:  Thanks!! Wonder why mines different though?  I have standard setup, havnt changed a thing!!02:51
tritiumno, PennDragon, not by default02:51
tritiumthoreauputic continues to rock02:51
naliothscott: idk02:51
PennDragonTiMiDo: thank you02:51
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TiMiDonp02:51
Dreamgliderok sorry i'll pastebin it02:51
thechitowncubsUH H02:51
thechitowncubsoh02:51
ripgutso i cant get a newer kernel?02:52
ssdd65how do i change the dvd player location in totem?02:52
tritiumyou can compile your own, ripgut02:52
naliothripgut: this is linux, you can do as you like02:52
TiMiDoripgut: apt-cache search kernel-image02:52
LousPennDragon, sudo passwd root02:52
Dreamgliderok i cannot pastebin it becaus i cant open firefox02:52
tritiumhe already has the latest, TiMiDo02:52
Epputhirso: do you have linux-headers-2.6.12-9 installed?02:52
TiMiDooh true,02:52
thechitowncubsI reinstalled w/ breezy and now windows is spitting this out: Windows coud not start because the following file is missing or corrput: <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll02:52
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thoreauputicTiMiDo: apt-cache search linux-image actually02:52
TiMiDooh ok,02:52
DavidLeeRothi have a question.. using vmware, can i install an OS to an actual partition and actually boot the amchine from that partition?02:52
naliothDreamglider: use galeon epiphany kazehakase konqueror02:53
Dreamglideri dont have any02:53
tritiumDavidLeeRoth, when do you take over for Howard Stern?02:53
zburnsAlt-F3 shows 'trying to load module ide-cd cmd 0x5a timed out'02:53
naliothDreamglider: install one of them (or all )02:53
flughwoohoo, sirius 1/1/06 man, i'm there02:53
Dreamgliderwhy not just read that error!02:53
[A] lex_OzWinAmp Song: Three Drives on a Vinyl - Greece 2000 (g&m project remix) (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define it!) Length: 00:-1 Bitrate: 96kbps02:54
ripgutok what does that do?02:54
[A] lex_Ozoups sorry02:54
thenukethechitowncubs: google would have helped you. http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm02:54
TiMiDo[A] lex_Oz: please keep it to you're self02:54
anthonyI have installed a driver for my pinter that's in *.gz.sh format, afterwards it tells me "Uncompressing Lexmark Z25-Z35 Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] " What do I do next? How do I print documents?02:54
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Dreamgliderwhen i do sudo apt-get install firefox i get this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:54
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[A] lex_Ozmy mistake sorry guys02:54
TiMiDoDreamglider: killed you'r apt pid02:54
TiMiDoit's in use02:54
naliothDreamglider: close all your apt instances02:54
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bcatthanks all. i reinstalled mozilla-thunderbird again and now it works02:54
EppuDavidLeeRoth: It's theoretically possible, but you will probably run into many problems.02:55
Dreamgliderand  E: Unable to lock the list directory02:55
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ripguti want the 2.6.13.4.2 kernel,02:55
arcanistherogueRazor-X, you are a genius02:55
Dreamglideri only have one terminal open!02:55
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: :P02:55
arcanistherogueRazor-X, Worked flawlessly.02:55
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: heh, glad that it worked02:55
naliothDreamglider: in your terminal type "ps aux|drep apt-get"02:55
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arcanistherogueRazor-X, many thanks my friend.  Now, back to quake 1 :D02:55
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thoreauputicDreamglider: close syanptic or whatever other apt instance is running02:55
Razor-Xarcanistherogue: the best of the lot, definitely02:55
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TiMiDoIcemanV9: we don't care about you're music02:55
arcanistherogueRazor-X, actually, when the linux binaries for quake 4 i can have all the quakes on my linux box now02:55
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Razor-XTiMiDo: some people do, with their annoying mIRC music plugins :P02:56
arcanistherogueRazor-X, good day (b^_^)b02:56
durtanthony: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4252.html02:56
TiMiDolol02:56
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Razor-Xarcanistherogue: meh02:56
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Dreamgliderthoreauputic, there is none running and nalioth, ps is a unknown command02:56
UBUNTU-useri need help with x window system in the new 5.1002:56
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TiMiDoUBUNTU-user: what do you need help with?02:56
naliothDreamglider: you have much trouble02:56
Dreamglidermy bad02:56
thoreauputicDreamglider: if ps is an unknown command you have major troubles02:56
Razor-XNow Playing: Who the Hell cares, Author: ???02:56
UBUNTU-userok, i just installed it on a PC w/ athlon 64 3000+02:56
Dreamglideri belive you did a typo02:56
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TiMiDoUBUNTU-user: ok02:56
naliothDreamglider: i did "ps aux|grep apt-get"02:57
UBUNTU-userwhen the installation is complete, it boots up ok02:57
Razor-Xgah, ratpoison is conflicting with my screen muscle memory02:57
dseomnkinda important website bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17744 anyone with access to us.releases.ubuntu.com here?02:57
Dreamglidernalioth, no you did ps aux|drep apt-get02:57
Dreamgliderdreb instead of grep :)02:57
naliothDreamglider: yes i just corrected myself02:57
kvidellSeveas: May I PM you, it's to do with your repository.02:57
UBUNTU-userbut when startx is executed, the screen shows a bunch of colored lines02:57
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TiMiDoUBUNTU-user: do startx and the program you want to run for example startx fluxbox or /usr/bin/fluxbox02:58
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thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:58
IcemanV9TiMiDo: you're DA man! :P02:58
DavidLeeRothdoes anyone here have vmware experience?02:58
TiMiDoDavidLeeRoth: nope but read02:58
TiMiDothoreauputic: that's not an X issue,02:58
kbrooksDavidLeeRoth: ask02:58
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UBUNTU-userthoreauputic : what does that do exactly , thx02:59
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thoreauputicTiMiDo: coloured lines?02:59
durtanthony: also, maybe the lxm3200-tweaked driver will work02:59
TiMiDothoreauputic: that's twm02:59
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tritiumUBUNTU-user, that reconfigures your X server, sort of like it implies02:59
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UBUNTU-userlol02:59
UBUNTU-userok02:59
DavidLeeRothi have a question regarding vmware. i need to know if it is possible to install an OS to a HDD partition, and boot the machine from that partition from bootup.02:59
corvixhey ...02:59
corvixgood evening ...02:59
thoreauputicTiMiDo: I don't follow you - twm isn't installed by default afaik02:59
DavidLeeRothkind of like installing ubuntu without a cd burner02:59
corvixim having trouble with postfix in Breezy ...02:59
scottOn the k3b site it says its for KDE only.... anybody installed it on gnome?02:59
wickedpuppyyes02:59
corvixit doesnt do Maildir delivery? ...03:00
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wickedpuppyi got it on my gnome03:00
scottany problems?03:00
elad`Why wouldn't windows maximize all the way under KDE? It's really annoying.03:00
anthonydurt: Thanks. I have tried the lxm3200-tweaked driver but it won't print, the paper just comes out blank.03:00
tritiumscott, you can apt-get install it03:00
tty2hello, the installroutine just tries to install LILO :/ but fails, how can i make i install grub/or use an existing grub?03:00
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wickedpuppyi am burning NOW03:00
wickedpuppylol03:00
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wickedpuppy:P03:00
tritiumscott, it'll pull in some libraries it needs as dependencies03:00
scotttritium:  Im greener than spring grass.... can you explain better or point me to a url?03:01
UBUNTU-userso, thoreauputic, i should reboot in recovery mode then run that command?03:01
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wickedpuppyscott, synaptic/apt-get will take care of all the dependencies k3b needs just like tritium says03:01
sudonimIm still having trouble with my nvidia-glx after the upgrade... I changed xorg.conf to use "nv" and that works fine, but if I use "nvidia" it crashes and says "Fatal server error: no screens found". The only thing I change is "nv" to "nvidia"03:01
irvinwhat's the recommended ide for python for a beginner?03:01
wickedpuppyscott, you know how to use synaptic right ?03:01
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: no need - just run it in a terminal, then ctr-alt-backspace03:01
tritiumscott, you don't really need to worry about what's going on behind the scenes03:01
Sonderbladewhy is gksudo's dialog box shown without a frame?03:01
TiMiDosudonim: just used the nv03:01
UBUNTU-userok thanks03:01
zukero/topic #03:01
zukerosorry03:02
scottwickedpuppy: No, lol.... ive been on linux for about 30 mintes.... maybe 45 lol03:02
tritium!tell sudonim about nvidia03:02
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Madpilotscott: k3b works just fine in Gnome03:02
tritiumwelcome, scott :)03:02
Grinakanyone know how to fix a problem with fglrx on breezy that on a logout to GDM it goes to a blank screen and no login. No signal to the display as well. I tried Vesa and that works fine?03:02
wickedpuppyscott, System -> Administration -> Synaptic03:02
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thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: ctrl-alt-backspace would only be if you were in X already, sorry03:02
scotttritium:  Thanks.... I REALLY like it so far, just kind of lost03:02
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Madpilotscott, start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:02
scottwickedpuppy:  Thanks!!!03:02
anthonydurt: Also do you happen to know where are all the extracted file from the *.gz.sh file saved to after I ran the sh command on it?03:02
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scottMadpilot:  Thanks, Ill check that out....03:02
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erirlarhi, can i do a FTP install for 5.10 from the 5.04 disc?03:02
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nekostaryay03:03
TiMiDoerirlar: yes03:03
FliesLikeABrickercueva,  do you have 5.04 installed?03:03
sudonimtritium: Unfortunately that isnt very helpful. i am fully aware of how to install the drivers... they are just not working after the upgrade03:03
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: if you are in  a tty, you can just startx after running it03:03
nekostarbreezy here ;)03:03
TiMiDo!tell erirlar about breezy03:03
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BreezyInCalifhi room03:03
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TiMiDohi BreezyInCalif03:03
BreezyInCalifI asked for some help yesterday or the day before in resizing an ext3 partition. It worked out and I wrote up the procedure I followed. Would that be of any use to the channel?03:03
tritiumsudonim, sounds like you didn't follow the directions, since you edited your xorg.conf by hand03:03
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sudonimtritium: as a last resort03:03
thoreauputicBreezyInCalif: put up a wiki page :)03:03
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BreezyInCalifIDK if stuff gets stored here for use later if smne needs a hand ... ?03:03
nekostar!tell nekostar about repositories03:04
scottI cant install anything while Ubuntu is doing software updates can I?03:04
Madpilotwith ISOs that I got via torrent, do I still need to run a md5sum check or does BT include error correction?03:04
FliesLikeABrickcorrect scott03:04
Madpilotscott: no03:04
thoreauputicscott: no03:04
Madpilot;)03:04
BreezyInCalifthoreauputic - on the Ubuntu wiki?03:04
naliothscott: sure you can03:04
thoreauputicBreezyInCalif: yup03:04
scottWow, cant beat that 3 answers in 2 seconds03:04
BreezyInCalifOK, will do03:04
scottuhh oh... we have conflicting answers =(03:04
BreezyInCalifThanks folks :)03:04
FliesLikeABrickscott,  its 3 to103:04
naliothscott: this is not windows. you dont even have to reboot after an update03:04
durtanthony, nope i dont know, you'll probably have to view the sh file or use "locate" to find out03:04
thoreauputicnalioth: he can't install anything while apt is running upgrades, can he?03:05
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Razor-Xscott: rebooting is a last resort, a very last resort, in linux03:05
Total_assaulthey is there any easy way to install xine on ubuntu 5.10 (x86-64) [maybe through apt] ? -thanks03:05
FliesLikeABrickno thoreauputic he can't03:05
FliesLikeABricknot from apt at least03:05
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scottok, I wasnt talking about rebooting though.03:05
wickedpuppy.... why ya all talking about reboot ?03:05
FliesLikeABrickhe can still install from source03:05
haseldenTotal: apt-get install xine-ui03:05
wickedpuppyhe wasn't asking about it03:05
Total_assaultty03:05
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Webby`Hey everyone. How is Breezy Badger?03:05
wickedpuppyhe wants to know if he can install while he updates ...03:05
haseldenyour welcome03:05
wickedpuppyWebby`, fine :P03:05
Webby`:)03:06
Total_assaulti have spent the last hour installing all these libs trying to compile it by hand :(03:06
naliothscott: no you can not. i misread your text03:06
scottok thanks03:06
scottthat downloads slow =(03:06
BreezyInCalifWebby` seems fine - how are you?03:06
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haseldenTotal_assault: you might need to add the universe to your apt sources list03:06
Webby`I'm good Breezy and you?03:06
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BreezyInCalif:)03:06
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_antixis there a guide for getting pidentd working?03:06
tritiumTotal_assault, xine is available03:06
Razor-XBreezyInCalif: it's pretty breezy here, IMO03:06
BreezyInCalifI'm good too ... was pulling your leg a bit; I've got Breezy running and it seems fine :)03:06
Total_assaultnano /etc/apt/sources.list rite?03:06
scottAnybody here know advantages/disadvantages of kde over gnome?03:06
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FliesLikeABrickanyone know how many current leechers and seeds there are for the breezy torrent, just curious?03:07
sorush20where can I get doom3 for linux ?03:07
sorush20Love linux03:07
haseldenTotal_assault: yes03:07
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Webby`Cool. I haven't tried the final version yet03:07
Razor-XTotal_assault: not just nano, you can look above nano :P03:07
tritiumTotal_assault, it's called xine-ui.  apt-cache search <search term> to look for things you want03:07
elad`Can anyone help me get Babylon (or something similar) to work using, say, wine?03:07
Razor-XBreezyInCalif: too cold, for my tastes03:07
naliothscott: personal preference. you can use any program any time (no matter what desktop it's affiliated with)03:07
Baxter_KylieWhoah... so many users! Hi.03:07
scottoh ok03:07
wickedpuppyscott, eh ... that is like asking you like republican or democrat03:07
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theinesorush20, ftp.idsfoftware.com I guess03:07
Razor-XBaxter_Kylie: meh, you get used to it03:07
BreezyInCalifActually I noticed a couple of differences from Hoary that I wondered about.03:07
durtis it worth installing all the kde stuff just to get k3b?03:07
thoreauputicBaxter_Kylie: breezy feeding frenzy :P03:07
Total_assaultis there a database of packages for unbuntu, like there is freshrpms.net for fedora?03:08
FliesLikeABrickdurt,  k3b works on gnome too03:08
ethan-allisonhow do i open a terminal if i can't right-click on the desktop, ctrl+alt+f[1-6]  aren't working, and there's no panel?03:08
zcat[1] BadgerBadgerBadger!!03:08
Baxter_KylieI'm on it too... first time linux'er long-time geek.03:08
tritiumTotal_assault, packages.ubuntu.com03:08
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Razor-Xthoreauputic: it used to be more active before I stopped comming because of my onslaught with homework in the beginning of the year03:08
wickedpuppyethan-allison, you can't right click ?03:08
zukerowill there be a ubuntuguide.org-like guide for breezy ?03:08
thoreauputic!tell ethan-allison about openterm03:08
ReleaseXis azureus not going to be on the breezy repos?03:08
Razor-XBaxter_Kylie: have fun in the world of Linux, enjoy your stay :)03:08
sorush20Guys when I joined ubuntu there were only 400 users in July now there anre 643.. growing like a fastidious bacteria..03:08
Total_assaultok03:08
thoreauputic!openterm03:08
ubotuTo add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package03:08
Entrancedany ideas why when I run synaptic and do reload I get an error saying something about BADSIGN03:08
sorush20thanks theine03:08
ethan-allisonno, like it's broken right now03:08
BreezyInCalifThere doesn't seem to be a menu selection anywhere for "Run an application" or whatever the wording was ... and for some reason it doesn't like the idea of burning an .iso image that burned fine under Hoary03:08
theineethan-allison, does ALT+F2 work?03:09
wickedpuppyethan-allison, mouse is broken ... hardware or software ?03:09
kvidellBreezyInCalif: Alt+F203:09
UBUNTU-userthoreauputic: i reconifured and got the following:  fatal error:no screens found03:09
anto9usEntranced: I'd say it's becasue the servers are busy03:09
BreezyInCalifkvidell - cool!03:09
BreezyInCalifThanks.03:09
Madpilotzukero: the FAQ and the wiki are your best bets03:09
irvinEntranced, i have the same problem, i just do apt-get update again03:09
durtFliesLikeABrick, yes but you have to install the kdelibs and stuff and i was wondering how consuming of resources that is03:09
FliesLikeABrickits worth it durt03:09
scottWell, what uses up more resources?  KDE or Gnome?03:09
Baxter_KylieRazor-X: Thanks... Currently trying to run an installation as we speak... is there a recommendation for a boot-loader? Do I even need one? It's a single-boot laptop03:09
kvidellEntranced: Are you... Entranced as in... Digitally Imported?03:09
Razor-Xdurt: it takes up disk space only, unless of course you use KDE actively03:09
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Razor-Xdurt: QT itself (the KDE widget set) isn't very bad at all03:09
durtok thank you gues03:09
Madpilotscott: KDE is a bit more resource-heavy03:10
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: oh dear. Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg and say "no" to the framebuffer question03:10
scottSorry if im a pain.... im like a little kid with a new toy!!03:10
Entrancedkvidell, not the same person I don't think03:10
ReleaseXis azureus not going to be on the breezy repos?03:10
thechitowncubsrepaired03:10
thechitowncubsstupid boot.ini03:10
Razor-Xdurt: i'm using quite a few QT apps on ratpoison03:10
wickedpuppyscott, lol ... there is no use comparing those two ... pls ..03:10
UBUNTU-userok03:10
kvidellokay, hehe. Just checking :)03:10
BreezyInCalifAlso, has anyone tried out encfs?03:10
Madpilot!tell zukero about docs03:10
Razor-XBaxter_Kylie: nope, just go ahead with the defaults03:10
floradoes anyone know if breezy has 3d support builtin for ati radeon x300 mobile chipset/03:10
ethan-allisonwickedpuppy: i had to shut down gnome-panel and with it went the desktop files and alt+f\d and clicking on the desktop03:10
flora?03:10
Madpilot!tell zukero about faq03:10
Entrancedkvidell, but I do visit that site quite a bit :)03:10
Razor-XBaxter_Kylie: if this is a single boot with nothing else on it, it's easier than pie to setup :P03:10
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elad`configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.0 not installed - please install first *** - help?03:10
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, acpi=off did not work. I somewhere read, hotplug would be the evil one. I did ctrl+c and it went on, but did not know how to go on with setup. Is there an kernel option to run again ubuntu setup with deactivting hotplug?03:10
ethan-allisonelad`: apt-get install glib-dev03:10
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wickedpuppyethan-allison, funny ... reboot pls ... i never seen that error before03:10
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FliesLikeABrickelad`,  do apt-get install libglib-dev03:11
wickedpuppyyou shut down gnome-panel ? how ?03:11
durtugh - after unpacking 105mb of disk will be used... oh well03:11
ethan-allisonkill -9 `pidof gnome-panel` that's how03:11
xfelonok03:11
tritiumFliesLikeABrick, elad` it's libglib1.2-dev03:11
FliesLikeABrickdurt,  do you have a hd small enough that it matters?03:11
zcat[1] Only 105M ? I just downloaded 600M of updates!!03:11
thoreauputicethan-allison: pkill gnome-panel would do :)03:11
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IcemanV9k_ubuntu: not familiar with hotplug (didn't have problem with it) .. let me find something03:11
wickedpuppyethan-allison, can you restart x ?03:11
sorush20I though Doom was availble for free and open source03:11
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kvidellBreezyInCalif: Sadly I've not tried to burn CDs in linux.. ever.. (The linux ISO is usually what I'm burning and from windows, so.. hehe)..03:11
zcat[1] sorush20: prboom03:11
FliesLikeABrickand durt  the kdelibs are useful for other stuff, whereas say you were on windows and installed roxio, thats only one program and takes up just as much space03:12
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Razor-Xcplay is the one of the few apps I haven't changed around much03:12
bruderI'm downloading 526MB03:12
darkheartkill -9 is a bad habit.03:12
tapoxsorush20: Only the Doom engine. The artwork, levels, and sounds are closed.03:12
Baxter_KylieRazor-X: *coughs* I'm getting some sort message telling me I have to boot manually with /vmlinuz... is that normal?03:12
Razor-Xsorush20: not the Doom WADs that contain the actual artwork/levels/sounds03:12
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OokiiNikuhello all03:12
Razor-Xsorush20: the engine itself should be fine03:12
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, thanx, else I'll try this expert install option (never tried it)03:12
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OokiiNikuwould anyone be willing to help out with some networking issues?03:12
sorush20tapox can I play it for free03:12
BreezyInCalifkvidell - I'm going to say it was nbd, because I kept *cough* win available for dual-boot ... but it *shoulda* worked, so ...03:12
Razor-XBaxter_Kylie: the installer stops after that?03:12
tapoxWhere's that wonderful, beautiful little boot manager panel from gnome-system-tools?03:12
durtflieslikeabrick, what besides k3b is useful?03:13
elad`thanks03:13
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: you can reinstall the whole thing; i have done it before03:13
BreezyInCalifwhat kind of networking issues, OokiiNiku?03:13
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xfelonI can use nero to burn the ubuntu-5.10-install-i386 iso right?03:13
darkheartwickedpuppy You can just do 'killall gnome-panel' to restart03:13
Razor-Xxfelon: yeah, you can use anything that can burn an ISO, pretty much03:13
Baxter_KylieRazor-X: Well, no but I didn't specify a bootloader so it's telling me I'm going to have boot manually03:13
wickedpuppyok ok ...03:13
thoreauputicxfelon: make sure you burn it as an image03:13
xfelonok03:13
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, how?03:13
OokiiNikuwell Breezy03:13
xfelonyes03:13
tapoxsorush20: Yes, and no. You need the Doom scenario file (.wad), however, the WAD file from the Doom demo will work.03:13
xfelonburn to image03:13
Razor-XBaxter_Kylie: oh, hmmm, try GRUB then?03:13
elad`Doesn't work.03:13
UBUNTU-userthoreauputic : now its doing the weird thing with the lines of color, and the screen is flashing03:14
OokiiNikuwhen i install debian from cd it networks just fine on my dell lattitude cpi03:14
elad`Wait, not - this time it03:14
elad`'s03:14
elad`configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.0 not installed - please install first ***03:14
xfelonwell03:14
OokiiNikubut i installed ubuntu and it doesn't connect out at all03:14
xfelonwhat file(s) do i burn?03:14
xfelonthe entire folder?03:14
tritiumelad`, I told you to install libglib1.2-dev03:14
elad`I have.03:14
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IcemanV9k_ubuntu: what do you mean? i just booted CD and install it again03:14
Razor-Xsorush20: you can use the Doom _engine_ for free, but the levels and content are not03:14
sorush20tapox where can I get this file03:14
xfelonC:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Desktop\ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso03:14
xfelonright03:14
xfelon?03:14
xfelonburn that file?03:14
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Razor-Xxfelon: yeah03:15
irvinxfelon yes03:15
xfelonok03:15
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budluvaanyone here familiar with enlightened gnome?03:15
xfelonthanks03:15
brennerelad`: what are you installing?03:15
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - specifically, what doesn't it do? I mean, can you see other boxen on your LAN, or are you talking about it not being able to browse the Web, or what ... ?03:15
elad`babytransa03:15
elad`-a03:15
tritiumelad`, you also need one of the libgtk*-dev03:15
OokiiNikucatch that breezy?03:15
Razor-Xbudluva: Enlightenment i'm familiar with, enlightened gnome?03:15
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: I don't know what causes that, frankly - you can rerun the command I gave you without the -plow and fiddle with it - I suggest trying the vesa driver just to get something working03:15
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UBUNTU-userok i will do that03:15
budluvaRazor-X http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5447603:15
OokiiNikuwell i can't even ping someone attached to the router03:15
elad`tritium: Exact filename please?03:15
tapoxxfelon: If you burn the ISO like a normal file you'll have one useless CD.03:15
xfelonok03:15
anthonydurt: I'm at the step to align the print heads, however I got the error message "ERROR: Unable to open printer port "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z35": Text file busy". What does that mean?03:15
OokiiNikuit's like the ubuntu didn't install the ethernet card03:15
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - can you ping the router itself?03:15
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, ok, well that I had several tries (as already mentioned wiht apic and acpi) :)03:16
xfelonwell im going to burn it right now03:16
xfelonthanks for the help03:16
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thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: also you might try the "simple" options if that won't work03:16
adamb100hi03:16
elad`Ah, wait, never mind, the asterisk works.03:16
OokiiNikufunnything is i can do a network install from the debian basic cd03:16
UBUNTU-userok03:16
tritiumelad`, you don't want to install them all, do you?03:16
OokiiNikuit's a netgear switch i don't think it has a router03:16
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - what does ifconfig output? Does the interface have an IP address?03:16
elad`tritium: It only found one./03:16
UBUNTU-useri selected 1024x768 , 75 Hz03:16
brenner600mb/526mb worth of updates?  is this *after* a breezy install?03:16
tritiumelad`, ok03:16
adamb100Hows the d-load times going for apt-get upgrading to breezy?03:16
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durtsorry anthony, i have no idea03:16
tritiumelad`, it should be libgtk1.2-dev ?03:16
reikiadamb100, I'm showing 8 hours here :)03:17
elad`Exactly.03:17
nekostarlol03:17
nekostar8 hrs?03:17
anthonydurt: Okay, thanks for the guide anyway.03:17
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: if it's having troble with drivers, the vesa driver will usually at least get you up and running03:17
OokiiNikuwhen i attempt to ping it says that the network is unreachable from a terminal prompt03:17
nekostarfor apt-get install upgrade ?03:17
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adamb1008 hours?  I think I'll wait for a few days03:17
naliothnekostar: see /topic03:17
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IcemanV9k_ubuntu: uh no. not good. hm. i don't know what else i can advise you.03:17
nekostari mean after install of breezy03:17
elad`transgress: As long as I have your attention - I somehow fucked Konqueror way up. It gives me "There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type." when I try to access a directory.03:17
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reikinekostar for apt-get dist-upgrade03:17
orangeyhey all! are the backports broken?03:17
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FliesLikeABrickadamb100,  it should speed up as more euros go to sleep03:18
nekostarah03:18
nekostarrite03:18
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BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - what does ifconfig output?03:18
Razor-Xbudluva: ohhh, I see, running Enlightenment in Gnome instead of Metacity03:18
moshehey folks03:18
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adamb100I propose having us servers and euro servers :p03:18
reikihehe03:18
ajmitch_adamb100: there are03:18
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: did you try to install "server"? then install the rest from HD?03:18
b3nwmy beezy install is stuck on configuring packages en-base-language, i tried restarting but it just gets stuck at configuring packages now 0%. please help ;\03:18
Razor-Xadamb100: we already have that03:18
elad`OK, this just doesn't work.03:18
FliesLikeABrickb3nw,  installing from CD or apt?03:19
mosheis there a runlevel I can switch to that won't have X running?03:19
UBUNTU-userthoreauputic: the Vesa driver works , thanks a bunch03:19
b3nwCD03:19
OokiiNikuany specific piece of data breezy?03:19
mosheother than runlevel 1, I mean03:19
elad`Gives me errors about assetions and undeclared functions and whatnot.03:19
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tritiumelad`, what are you compiling, anyway?03:19
FliesLikeABrickb3nw,  official cd or burned?03:19
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: you're welcome03:19
b3nwburned03:19
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b3nwit installed cleanly on another box tho -_-03:19
elad`moshe: yesh lecha masheu dome le'babylon?03:19
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - Well, I'm wondering whether the interface has a valid IP address03:19
weoblove the kde ubuntu so far03:19
OokiiNikulink encap:Ethernet03:19
FliesLikeABrickah03:19
elad`tritium: Babytrans.03:19
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, well, how to install it new with hotplug disabled, do not know how to do this03:19
ajmitch_hi tritium, how's it going? :)03:19
thoreauputicUBUNTU-user: if you need better performance you can trouble-shoot a bit more03:19
tritiumhi ajmitch_ :)03:19
reikiI'm fluctuating between 20 and 30kB/s03:19
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budluvaRazor-X yes, thats what im trying to do, but i've run into a problem....if you see where it says to edit your ~/.gnome2/session03:19
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elad`*mashehu03:19
tritiumajmitch_, doing well, how are you?03:20
Razor-Xbudluva: mmmhmmmm03:20
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - inet addr, I think it would be03:20
OokiiNikuinet6 addr:fe80::200::86ff:fe3b::2624/6403:20
budluvaRazor-X  sudo gedit ~/.gnome2/session03:20
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BreezyInCalifOh. Are you running ip6 locally?03:20
ajmitch_tritium: good, just watching all the people online installing breezy ;)03:20
OokiiNikuof course i am in the us03:20
b3nwhow to get out of the "Preparing for installion..." Installing Packages @ 0%03:20
flodineanyone try artwiz font yet03:20
budluvaRazor-X it says look for this line -->  1,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default103:20
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tritiumajmitch_, no kidding!03:20
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b3nwi'm stuck @ 0% :\03:20
FliesLikeABrickdual flatscreen and dual processor desktop with breezy03:20
weobbreezy?03:20
OokiiNikumy ip4 should be in the 155.33.*.* range03:20
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: i do not know about hotplug, either. only acpi stuff. always have a problem with it on my two laptops.03:20
mosheelad, transliterated Hebrew is a very bad way to communicate with me.03:20
weobdid you md5 your iso before you burnt it?03:20
budluvaRazor-X closest i have to that is  0,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default003:20
OokiiNikui am not breezy03:20
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UBUNTU-userthoreauputic: ok, thanks again03:20
thoreauputicbudluva: you don't need sudo to edit something in your home dir03:20
weobctrl + alt + del03:20
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BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - what ip4 addy do you show, then?03:21
weobor reset button03:21
budluvaRazor-X just wondering if anyone has done this before and if its just a typo on his behalf or what03:21
brennerelad`: babytrans is in the repo03:21
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Razor-Xbudluva: hmmm... I'm not that sure on this, since I don't use Gnome....03:21
Baxter_KylieAnyone have an idea what could be causing failed restarts? System goes to black but no restart.03:21
nekostarhey i mounted my second hdd to a folder on my local desktop03:21
budluvahrmm ok03:21
Razor-Xbudluva: sorry about that03:21
thoreauputicbudluva: in fact if you do it will save with root permissions I think - which will cause problems03:21
OokiiNikui don't see a ip4 cept my loop back03:21
budluvathoreauputic ???03:21
Razor-Xbudluva: lots of others use Gnome, i'm pretty sure03:21
tritium!info babytrans03:21
nekostarbut it seems i need root permission to write to the second hdd, how can i change that ?03:21
ubotubabytrans: (Front-end to use the dictionaries from Babylon Translator), section multiverse/text, is extra. Version: 0.9.1-0.3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 248 kB03:21
elad`brenner: It requires babytrans-common, which isn't in the repositories.03:21
moshethe dist-upgrade can be run with X running without problems?03:21
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - so you're not being assigned an IP; I assume you should be getting that from a dhcp server on your LAN03:21
budluvamoshe yes03:21
mosheok03:22
moshegood03:22
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thoreauputicbudluva: why are you using sudo to edit a file in your $HOME dir?03:22
OokiiNikucorrect03:22
budluvamoshe you mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ???03:22
OokiiNikuI am on a college campus03:22
budluvathoreauputic im not, thats what the tutorial shows03:22
OokiiNikuand like i said the debian install configured everything fine, i was apt-get'ing like crazy not ubuntu03:22
moshebudluva, yes.  when I was a mandrake user, the release notes always said to kill X before doing a distro upgrade.  I was curious if that carried over to ubuntu03:22
tritiumelad`, babytrans does not depend on anything -common03:22
erickguys anyone who use abiword and gnumeric03:23
budluvamoshe mandrake differs alot from debian/ubuntu :P03:23
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - OK. In System menu, choose Administration, then choose Networking03:23
brennerelad`: in that case, there's a command to get all the dependent libraries so you can install from source....i forgot what it is though...something to do with dpkg03:23
elad`tritium: That's the error Synaptic gives me.03:23
moshebudluva, so I've noticed :)03:23
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budluvamoshe used mandrake a couple of times and i hated it :P03:23
tritiumelad`, are you running breezy?03:23
flughoh yeah, burning my breezy iso now! thanks again ubuntu! :)03:23
OokiiNikuthere03:23
thoreauputicbudluva: >>> budluva Razor-X  sudo gedit ~/.gnome2/session  <<< this looks wrong03:23
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k_ubuntuIcemanV9, hmmm, ok, I'll keep in mind the server install. First I'll try the "expert" install. Hope I know enough.:) (well,alreadyinstalled gentoo with stageone *buf* was this time consuming ... )03:23
xfeloninstall for ubuntu is basic right?03:23
satafterhgood call on that03:23
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - You should see a 4-tab window titled Network Settings, yes?03:23
brentdaxAre there mirrors or something I can point Synaptic at?  I have a CD, I just need a place for it to grab the packages that aren't on it.03:23
elad`I'm using, 5.04, whatever its namey name is.03:23
nekostar7% [1 libwxgtk2.6-0 1078760/2968kB 36%]                           21.6kB/s 10m6s03:23
FliesLikeABrickyes xfelon03:23
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nekostarlol03:23
FliesLikeABrickvery simple03:23
budluvathoreauputic yar because i copied it from a tutorial on ubuntu forums, im telling you i didnt do it03:23
xfelonlike windows easy?03:23
satafterhI like you way ya think03:23
moshebudluva, I used to love it up to and including 10.0 -- I switched to Slackware so I'd force myself how to use Linux properly, and then I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago03:23
OokiiNikuoh yeah looking at for an hour now :-D btw thanks03:24
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - highlight the Ethernet connection and choose properties03:24
thoreauputicbudluva: heheh - OK :)03:24
k_ubuntuelad: hoaryhedgehog03:24
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Razor-Xthoreauputic: didn't see that previously, it is wrong, i've edited my KDE stuff (back when I used KDE) in sudo and it didn't go very well03:24
FliesLikeABrickxfelon,  almost, it just doesn't treat you like retard who needs pics to be happy03:24
tritiumelad`, 5.10 was released today.  Try it!03:24
OokiiNikuenabled and configured for dhcp03:24
JubeiI need help disabling EDID03:24
tritiumyesterday, even , in some parts of the world03:24
nekostarhey BreezyInCalif socal here ^_^03:24
xfelonok03:24
brenneryeah, babytrans-common *is* listed as a dependency in hoary03:24
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BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - the connection should be enabled and should be set to get an addy from DHCP03:24
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JubeiI've put the required line in xorg but it still give me the error in the log03:24
elad`tritium: I can't apt-get it.03:24
BreezyInCalifhey there nekostar - I'm "up here" in the Bay area03:24
OokiiNikucorrect03:24
nekostarlol kewl _o/03:25
IcemanV9k_ubuntu: "expert" is same as the standard install, but in your control; "server" is to install the base OS (very short installation time)03:25
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nekostarknow anything about mounting hdd's BreezyInCalif ?03:25
Dreamglideris the lastest ubuntu breezy still 5.10 or has it changed ?03:25
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - Forgive me if I'm being too basic - you've done all this ?03:25
shadeofgreyhi guyts i need the breezy repository list again...  can somebody paste the link?03:25
weobhas anyone got WoW running on ubuntu ?03:25
OokiiNikuyep03:25
BreezyInCalifnekostar - just bits and pieces03:25
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OokiiNikuit's fine i'd rather go step by step if it gets done03:25
snarfweob i wish03:25
flodinewill there be a starter guide soon for breezy03:25
durtjubei: is that line 'Option "IgnoreEDID"' under your video card's device section?03:25
Rev-Marcis there a good download accellerator for Ubuntu and how do I get it?03:25
Razor-Xweob: you tried Cedega/03:25
FliesLikeABrickshadeofgrey,  see the topic?03:26
nekostarah i mounted my second hdd to a folder on my desktop and its all root permissions apparently to write into it !_!03:26
weobya i ran it and i get a error 13203:26
thoreauputicDreamglider: yes - 5.10 = 2005 October03:26
Razor-Xs/\//?/03:26
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - physical layer OK? have you checked by cabling a known-working box and seeing the network is there ... ?03:26
weobyes i tried cedega03:26
Razor-Xweob: ask in #cedega03:26
Razor-X:P03:26
Dreamgliderthoreauputic, allright03:26
weobok  thanks lol03:26
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BreezyInCalifnekostar - second hdd using what filesystem?03:26
OokiiNikumy switch shows the port active03:26
tritium!tell elad` about breezy03:26
calcis dapper open yet?03:26
EppuOokiiNiku: what does it say if you run "ifup eth0" from the terminal?03:26
brentdaxOh, if anybody here likes wikis, this could use some work: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ubuntu_releases_third_version_of_popular_Linux_distribution03:26
OokiiNikuand the dongle shows 100MB03:26
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elad`thanks03:26
foxgamerSo what do all the new breezy users think of it so far?03:26
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Bicchifor the restricted modules, whats the difference between x86_64 generic   and  amd64-k803:26
tritiumcalc, you're silly ;)03:26
BreezyInCalif<-- likes Breezy :)03:27
weobmost everything is great03:27
weoblittle errors here and there but i can live with it03:27
calctritium: :)03:27
budluvacan someone give me a point in the right direction here? im trying to use enlightenment instead of metacity for gnome, reading a howto on ubuntuforums.org which states to look for  1,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default1 in my ~/.gnome2/session but the closest variant of that i can find is ...  0,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default0 wondering if i should edit that line or what? it supposed to look like this.... 1,R03:27
Razor-X<-- it's getting too Cold in California :P03:27
weobbut i am not sure what is going on with the graphics drivers03:27
budluvaare the 1's and 0's just line numbers?03:27
BreezyInCalifRazor-x lol03:27
Razor-XBreezyInCalif: it is, though03:27
calcBicchi: x86_64 is generic and amd64-k8 may have processor optimizations (most likely)(03:27
foxgamerwish I hadn't got the pre-release now. Sounds like you guys are having much more fun!03:27
weobi know i have direct rendering but doing glxgears in a terminal window doesnt show me any fps results03:28
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calcfoxgamer: apt-get upgrade03:28
thoreauputicbudluva: I think you can do this much more easily using gconf-editor03:28
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zovirlI can't get to the main download site.  Are the links to the torrents posted anywhere else?03:28
OokiiNikuso yes breezy physical layer checks, ethernet card is activated and set for dhcp03:28
brennerso yeah, lightwieght web-browsers (i use them for offline viewing of html pages)  any suggestions besides dillo and encompass? (encompass was nice.....some functionality seems to be missing though)03:28
reikiok... everyone in Europe, PLEASE....go to sleep... I'm at 18.7 kB/s03:28
reiki:)03:28
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foxgamercalc: I'm already fully up to date. Just wish that I waited rather than upgrading bit by bit. hehe03:28
Razor-Xbrenner: links -g03:28
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - have you tried bringing the interface down, then back up? ifdown eth0, ifup eth003:29
durtbrenner: lynx03:29
IcemanV9lol reiki :)03:29
reiki:)03:29
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BreezyInCalifAssuming this is Ethernet0 we're talking03:29
thoreauputicbrenner: actually links2 -g03:29
b3nwmirrors :)03:29
flodineim scared my repositories wont let me get java03:29
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Razor-Xbrenner: Twibright links is better than links2 :P03:29
calcfoxgamer: living on the edge is more fun :)03:29
vithosis there a gnoppix irc channel?03:29
b3nwi get almost 2500kb/s from the anl.gov  (i think thats what its called) one03:29
bruderIve just discorvered a mirror just after the border router of my ADSL company, in a local university, better impossible :p03:29
Razor-Xvithos: this is #ubuntu, who knows? :P03:29
joetheoddHey, whats the easiest way to upgrade from hoary to breezy?03:29
foxgamercalc: pretty sharp too! lol03:29
moogmanHey guys, is there any other clothing than what is on www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop ?03:29
FliesLikeABrickjoetheodd,  see the topic03:30
brennerRazor-X, thoreauputic, durt: image support?03:30
Rev-Marccalc is there a amd64-k8 kernel out? for Ubuntu03:30
budluvajoetheodd change your sources.list from hoary to breezy and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade03:30
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calcjoetheodd: see topic03:30
thoreauputicbrenner: yes, with links2 -g03:30
OokiiNikuok this is kinda long and i'm copying it down.....03:30
shadeofgreyokay gutys im sorry...  i needd that link to the full sources.list file03:30
reikiand then go to bed... it'll be a while03:30
joetheoddFliesLikeABrick and calc: Haha, =p03:30
joetheoddbudluva: thanks03:30
budluvajoetheodd np03:30
BreezyInCalifjoetheodd - be sure to apt-get ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop before doing the apt-get dist-upgrade03:30
shadeofgreyi tried looking at the links in the topic and they lead to an incomplete list03:30
calcRev-Marc: yea i am running 2.6.12-9-amd64-k803:30
Madpilothow do I find out the pid of a process? Muine just locked and "killall muine" isn't working...03:30
brennerthoreauputic, Razor-X, durt: righto...will look into them, thanks03:30
zovirlanyone have the address to the torrents?  the main download page isn't loading so I can't get them03:30
flodinecano backports yet03:30
Razor-Xbrenner: you can compile it in03:30
budluvaBreezyInCalif i thought that came after dist-upgrade?03:31
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BreezyInCalifI thought that too :)03:31
Razor-Xbrenner: in Twibright, anyways03:31
budluvaBreezyInCalif im pretty sure i did it after03:31
Rev-Marccalc how do I get it and iunstall it I am new to Linux?03:31
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calczovirl: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/03:31
BreezyInCalifCost me a bit of sweat when X wouldn't load03:31
Rev-Marcinstall03:31
calcRev-Marc: using the package manager or dpkg --purge (package name)03:31
vithosok, there is one, but nobody's there. does anyone know what the difference between gnome-livecd-2.12-i386-en-1.iso and gnome-livecd-2.12-i386-en-5.iso is?03:31
budluvaBreezyInCalif hehe03:31
calcRev-Marc: if you don't have another kernel installed and you remove it you won't be able to boot03:31
Total_assaultare there any faster mirrors for eastern usa for the apt sources 22kb/s is a lil slow03:32
elad`How do I make apt-get upgrade not touch a certain package (KDE)?03:32
IcemanV9reiki: check other mirror sites; i just d/l @ 135kB/s recently :P03:32
Baxter_Kylie*just checked distrowatch and laughs* Of -course- Mandriva releases today.03:32
Razor-Xvithos: try in #knoppix03:32
vithosok03:32
flughcan i change all my breezy to stable in my /etc/apt/sources.list now?03:32
OokiiNiku$sudo ifdown eth003:32
calcRev-Marc: ah you meant install? then use the package manager to select it as well03:32
OokiiNikuifdown: interface eth0, notconfigured03:32
zovirlcalc: thanks.  the breezy-install* ones are pre-release, right?03:32
Toma-vithos: id say its just another build of that live cd...03:32
Razor-XTotal_assault: you must be jesting with dial-up users, no? :P03:32
vithosermm.. does knoppix have anything to do with gnoppix?03:32
Rev-Marccalc I mean get it and install it03:32
thoreauputic!tell flugh about breezy03:32
vithosToma-: so 5 is newer than 1?03:32
Toma-yes03:32
reikiIcemanV9: ok but how do I stop apt-get dist-upgrade?03:32
weobdo you suggest i compile glxgears from source and run it to get fps or what am i doing wrong?03:32
vithosok, thanks03:32
Razor-Xvithos: more than it does with Ubuntu, i'ld imagine :P03:32
calczovirl: nope, the ubuntu-5.10-{live,install,dvd} ones03:32
budluvadoes anyone here use enlightenment in gnome? im trying to switch from metacity to enlightenment, but i have a few questions03:33
vithosgnoppix is based on ubuntu03:33
calczovirl: the breezy ones are prerelease ones03:33
IcemanV9reiki: nah. don't. :(03:33
OokiiNikuand when i did ifup, i got there already is a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 003:33
Razor-Xvithos: oh really? it used to be based on Knoppix....03:33
reikihehe03:33
zovirlcalc: got it thanks03:33
Razor-Xanyways, homework time03:33
bimberivithos: gnoppix was based on knoppix (pre ubuntu).  Then it got with the strength :)03:33
OokiiNikufollowed by a bunch of dhcpdicovers03:33
Razor-Xmore homework like what you people saw in my screenshot :P03:33
thoreauputicweob: glxgears --Iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark  or something like that :P03:34
OokiiNikuand no dhcpoffers recieved03:34
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thoreauputicweob: see the man page03:34
BreezyInCalifOK ... so you're not seeing the dhcp server03:34
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OokiiNikuyep so it appears03:35
shadeofgreythor:  hey there!  whats up brother?03:35
bimberithoreauputic: PM? (regarding Breezy CD)03:35
OokiiNikuwould this be a hardware/drivers issue?03:35
Jubeiignoreedid is set properly but Im still getting 1280x102403:35
thoreauputicbimberi: OK :D03:35
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - can you temporarily assign a static IP addy without messing smne up?03:35
vithosso, would you call that last part of the filename (5 or 1) a revision number? or something else?03:35
thoreauputicshadeofgrey: hi03:35
Jubeiseems noone was able to get over this error03:35
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shadeofgreythoreauputic:  its good to see you...  havent spoken in a loooooong tike03:35
OokiiNikusmne....not sure what that is03:35
flughthoreauputic: thanks :)03:36
EppuOokiiNiku: check your Hwaddr of the card in ifconfig. I once had a card that reset that address to zeros sometimes.03:36
thoreauputicshadeofgrey: :)03:36
BreezyInCalifsomeone03:36
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flughthoreauputic: hoping the new iso will do it clean for my work boxen03:36
Razor-Xthoreauputic: you have fans :P03:36
shadeofgreywheres a good place to find information about setting up a ubuntu box to be able to handle windows media and quicktime codecs?03:36
joetheoddthoreauputic: HAI!03:36
Razor-Xshadeofgrey: mplayer can do that, if you give it every codec it has03:36
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OokiiNikuHWaddr 00:00:86:3b:26:2403:36
Razor-X(which is done by compilation, generally)03:36
thoreauputicRazor-X: little do they know my wicked ways ;P03:36
satafterhany takers on video and audeo synce issue with all players03:37
Razor-Xthoreauputic: :P03:37
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shadeofgreythoreauputic:  installed amd64 versiuon a few hours ago, found out a bunch of stufgf didnt work, and JUST finished the i386 installation...  now i have to set everything up alll over again03:37
shadeofgreyrazor:  how do i install mplayter?03:37
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elad`I have two debs which depend on each other, and I can't install them, because each one tells me it depends on the other. Help?03:37
shadeofgreyand what version do i want?  im running i386 verssion of ubuntu breezy03:37
joetheoddshadeofgrey: sudo apt-get install mplayer gmplayer03:37
EppuOokiiNiku: probably ok. Try disconnecting the cable and reconnecting, then run the ifup eth0 again03:37
thoreauputicshadeofgrey: you need the multiverse repo03:37
amonkeyis there a downside to just changing my apt sources? is a fresh install "better"?03:37
b3nw:\ what do I do if Xorg blows up when gdm tries to start?03:37
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Razor-Xshadeofgrey: you canc ompile it, go ahead, try it03:37
OokiiNikuok as i disconnect the cable, the 100mbs lightt goes off then on when i reconnect03:38
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k_ubuntuIcemanV9, hmmm, there seems to be a kernel option "hotplug=off"03:38
b3nwwhy would xorg on hoarty work and not breezy?03:38
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IcemanV9k_ubuntu: yeah? cool. will remember that for the next person. :)03:38
FliesLikeABrickb3nw, does it tell you anything when it fails?03:39
OokiiNikuit's sending the dhcpdiscovers to port 67, is that norm?03:39
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durtb3nw, whatever changes to xorg you made, you will probably have to undo in order to get X to work again03:39
shadeofgreythoreauputic:  coulfd you please give me a link to a page that has the full list of breezy repos in a example sources.list file?  the one that comes preinstalled blows rancid aardvark balls...  its very incomplete03:39
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - can you assign a static IP addy for the time being without messing somebody else up? That would allow you to check a lot of issues in one fell swoop03:39
k_ubuntuIcemanV9, well, first I'll try it,then I tell you, if it really works :)03:39
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - Port 67 is DHCP; that's OK03:39
EppuOookiNiku: yes. Also try sudo ping -b -I eth0 255.255.255.25503:39
thoreauputicshadeofgrey: look at ubotu's info03:39
thoreauputic!sources03:39
ubotuI guess sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:39
OokiiNikubasically it's saying DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 vearious intervals03:40
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roothey all03:40
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jfarrellhey all03:40
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OokiiNikubad preload value03:40
Baxter_KylieFeh... It runs but not networking of any kind... so first time user -- what is the standard troubleshooting process, here?03:40
durtwhat is the command to change the kde theme?03:40
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thoreauputicjfarrell: IRC as root is evil, you know....03:40
jfarrellhow do i get kde with breezy03:40
icarushi all03:40
icarushow is everyone doing today?03:41
OokiiNikushould be 1,...6553603:41
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Jubeianyone know a sure way to remove EDID03:41
jfarrellthoreauputic: you noticed, i thought i changed fast enough :)03:41
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FliesLikeABrickjfarrell,  apt-cache search kde | grep desktop03:41
FliesLikeABricki think its kdebase and kde-desktop03:41
FliesLikeABrickbut look for the right packagenames03:41
thoreauputicjfarrell: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:41
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theinejfarrell, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:41
FliesLikeABrickah03:41
sorush20how do I move a thread in the ubuntu forum03:41
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theinenice...03:41
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BluntedHello03:41
KiraIs the one known as KyleBrooks around here tonight?03:42
Bluntedi have a simple question03:42
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BreezyInCalifnekostar - I lost track, did you get your hdd question worked out?03:42
shadeofgreyokay....  apt-get install mplayer -- that'll get mplayer itself...  how do i make sure that i have all the codecs it uses?03:42
Bluntedis it best to ubgrade ubuntu to breezy via apt-get or downloading and using the install cd?03:42
Jubeianyone know a sure way to remove EDID03:42
theineshadeofgrey, you need to install the w32codecs package manually03:43
thoreauputic!tell Blunted about breezy03:43
EppuOokiiNiku: do you remember if you usually get the same ip from the dhcp server? If you do, use sudo ifconfig your-ip dev eth0 up03:43
shadeofgreyblun:  download the official stable release CD and install that03:43
FliesLikeABrickBlunted,  if you decide to use the downloaded CD, you'd probably get the best speeds if you use a torrent03:43
foxgamerBlunted: It depends if you have information to save. If you can afford to do it, re-install.03:43
FliesLikeABricksince the mirrors are undoubtedly swamped03:43
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Bluntedyea03:43
weobthere are no man pages to glxgears03:43
OokiiNikuEppu what do you mean same Ip from the server03:43
Bluntedim trying to do the ubgrade in the console via apt-get n new sources.list03:43
thoreauputicfoxgamer: no need to reinstall - dist-upgrade is fine03:43
OokiiNikuthis machine would be new to the network03:43
EppuOokiiNiku: I'm sorry, I mean ifconfig eth0 ip up03:43
weobnvm found on google03:44
FliesLikeABrickare there any expected performance benefits/losses with breezy?03:44
EppuOokiiNiku: Often times the DHCP servers give you the same IP every time, if your MAC address does not change03:44
foxgamerthoreauputic: Is it? I know a few people were having problems. Probably just down to how busy it was.03:44
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - the key, I think, is to establish whether you have a hardware problem or a network problem. If you can assign a static IP address and see the network, that would pretty much eliminate your local box, cable run, etc.03:44
OokiiNikuwell i don't know what that ipaddress would be this computer is new to the server....03:44
thoreauputicfoxgamer: yes, the servers are kind of swamped I think03:44
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nekostarBreezyInCalif, no clu !_!03:45
nekostari e no >_>03:45
nekostarits ok03:45
OokiiNikuhmm i might have a solution03:45
nekostari think i need to change permission of that folder // the other hdd03:45
OokiiNikulet me grab my xbox's ip lol03:45
weobhehe why did they take out the fps counter03:45
nekostaror rather the owner03:45
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BreezyInCalifnekostar - what was your mount command?03:45
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EppuOokiiNiku: yes, and grab the netmask value too03:45
thoreauputicweob: they got ick of people using it as a benchmark I guess :P03:45
nekostarsudo mount /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura03:46
thoreauputic*sick03:46
weobi guess so03:46
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nekostarno wait03:46
weobits not a real benchmark its just a easy comparison03:46
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nekostari used the -t switch03:46
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nekostarsudo mount -t etc3 /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura <<-- i believe03:46
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kryptosubuntu ! :D03:46
FliesLikeABrickare there any expected performance benefits/losses with breezy?03:46
Dr_Willisso not its totally useless :P03:46
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Dr_WillisFliesLikeABrick,  from what ive been hearing - its better performance wise.03:47
brenneri asked about lightweight browsers before...any suggestions for a lightweight newsgroup reader? :)03:47
twokneewhen i do a apt-get update i get the following error and i have googled it to no avail.  my apt is broken or something.  GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key03:47
thoreauputicafk03:47
FliesLikeABrickthanks Dr_Fate03:47
FliesLikeABrickDr_Willis,03:47
Dr_Willis:)03:47
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Dr_Willisnot that ive seen any real benchmarks on the subject03:47
FliesLikeABrickyeah03:47
phiqtionwhat are the 3 icons i got in my breezy distro? hda1, hda5, hda6. it says i dont have any permissions to view it03:47
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dooglusbrenner: trn403:48
twokneeanyone have any ideas ?03:48
weobdoom3 good benchmark for linux?03:48
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OokiiNikuok now put these settings into my network settings as static03:48
theinephiqtion, those are probably your windows partitions03:48
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nekostarwhat was the package for compiler? dev-utilis or something ?03:48
weobthey dont have 3dmark for linux ; )03:48
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theinenekostar, build-essentials03:49
weobd3d program03:49
EppuOokiiNiku: if possible, try to get the default gateway address too from the xbox.03:49
nekostarthanx theine03:49
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OokiiNikui did03:49
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weobhmm wonder if wine could install it and would it give accurate results?03:49
brennerdooglus: looks interesting...thanks, i'll try it. although i'd prefer an X app03:49
OokiiNikui filled in ip address mask and default gateway03:49
Dr_Willisweob,  thats scary03:49
weobhaha ya it is03:49
FliesLikeABrickyeah Dr_Willis  perfect description03:49
doogluswhat package do I need if I want to be able to "mail dooglus@gmail.com" from the command line and have the mail delivered?03:49
EppuOokiiNiku: and name server addresses03:49
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nekostartheine package not found,03:49
dooglusI tried it, and it seemed to work, but the mail never arrived.03:49
FliesLikeABrickdooglus,  postfix or sendmail or equivalent03:49
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dooglusFliesLikeABrick: thanks.  any idea where the mail I typed is currently residing?03:50
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os2maccan someone tell me where the essid and key are stored for a wlan0 connection?03:50
FliesLikeABricknope dooglus03:50
EppuOokiiNiku: although you can try pinging your default gateway without the name servers03:50
twokneebreezy-updates is giving me a error on a apt-get update with the following error your help would be greatly appreciated.  GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key03:50
FliesLikeABrickos2mac, /etc/network/interfaces sometimes03:50
FliesLikeABrickos2mac,  you can tell by typing iwconfig wlan003:50
EppuOokiiNiku: try pinging the default gateway ip, once you have the interface up.03:51
durtwtf, opera just decided to stop using antialiased fonts03:51
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ScislaCDownloaded breezy. Burned, ejected, and reinserted disk. It asks if I want to upgrade, yes. When Synaptic was open I had to choose abort when downloading a package, so nothing was upgraded. Now it won't let me choose upgrade from anywhere. Any ideas how to get back to that?03:51
OokiiNikuwell i atleast got something more than no network connected03:51
VersedtooDoes anyone know the command in terminal to upgrade to the latest breezy?03:51
FliesLikeABrickdooglus,  if you go to set up mail stuff, i'd recognize postfix over sendmail because it is more userfriendly for someone new to mail config03:52
os2macthe point is I don't want have to type it everytime I startup.03:52
EntrancedAnyone tried this yet ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656303:52
OokiiNikui got destination host un reachable03:52
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FliesLikeABrickVersedtoo, see the topic03:52
nekostarW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>03:52
makkkI'm using the gnome desktop and am listening to music using amarok. This makes it impossible to hear event sounds. how can i fix this?03:52
EppuOokiiNiku: does ifconfig now show the ip and netmask?03:52
weobmost likely if you have wpa or wep - you gotta use some kind of program to handle that - like wpa_supplicant \03:52
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phiqtiontheine: how can i get root access to them?03:52
robertjheya all. I've got no sound, but my sound card is detected...03:52
robertjesound is installed03:52
nekostarhow do i get synaptic to get the correct key?03:52
OokiiNikuyes03:52
robertjI don't have any startup sounds03:53
Dr_Willisrobertj,  run a volume controll mixer and twiddlw with the sliders03:53
navynanybody know a good place to try and get support for my scanner in ubuntu?  It detects my scanner, but cannot get it to talk to SANE03:53
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scottCan anybody recommend a good media player that works with Ubuntu?03:54
weobvlc03:54
kvidellmplayer03:54
weobapt-get install vlc03:54
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FliesLikeABrickvlc and xmms03:54
Entrancedscott, Look into this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656303:54
weobmplayer too ya03:54
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brenner!players03:54
ubotu[players]  Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC03:54
b3nw(EE) No devices detected - xorg :\ ?03:54
icarusis there like a faq or something for breazy??03:54
Entrancedscott, it will make your life easier03:54
EppuOokiiNiku: weird.. I would double check the cables if I were you. Use a different cable if you can03:54
FliesLikeABrick!tell icarus about faq03:54
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brennerb3nw: try reconfigging xorg03:54
scottThanks for all the replys!!!03:54
bimberifaq03:55
b3nwhow?03:55
icarusthanks flieslikeabrick!!!!!03:55
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brenner!tell b3nw about xorg03:55
robertjDr_Willis: looks good through the gui03:55
b3nwty03:55
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makkkhow do i get amarok and any other sound besides it to play together?03:55
brennerb3nw: back up your xorg.conf file first if you want03:55
erirlarhi, can i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?03:55
BreezyInCalifOokiiNiku - I agree with Eppu - looks more like hardware or cable, esp since this is a new box03:55
FliesLikeABrickerirlar,  see the topic03:55
wulfy814nekostar: anyone answer your key question yet?03:55
Entrancedmakkk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 I think there may be an option for that03:55
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icarus!tell icarus about ati03:56
OokiiNikuhowever the wierd thing is, ialmost guaruntee you i insert the debian cd, and it will apt-get03:56
foxinessafter i insert the ubuntu-rc CD on ubuntu 5.04 and do upgrede now i try to install ubuntu-desktop but i can not is this will broke my system after i do restart?03:56
FliesLikeABrick!tell FliesLikeABrick about ati03:56
Entrancedwulfy814, NOPE03:56
BreezyInCalifnekostar - in your mount command did you specify any options like -o=defaults ?03:56
robertjALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave03:56
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shadeofgreyokay guys i need help03:56
icarushey, this tell thing rocks!!!!!!!!!03:56
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ColonelKernelis it pissible to upgrade ubuntu w/o losing my current files or is it better to do a fresh install?03:57
GregerColonelKernel, its possible03:57
FliesLikeABrickColonelKernel,  upgrade with apt03:57
Parisi1ColonelKernel Of course.03:57
shadeofgreyi installed the nvida-glx package and enabled the configuration but i dont see the nvidia splash screen when i stop and restart the gdm03:57
b3nw(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes03:57
FliesLikeABrickColonelKernel,  see the topic03:57
weobthe best i have tried so far - right up there with suse with ease03:57
benkong2_anyone know what the problem with this error is? W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release:03:57
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shadeofgreyhow do i check to see if its iunstalled right03:57
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FliesLikeABrickyes03:57
FliesLikeABricker03:57
b3nw(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration03:57
Gregershadeofgrey, if what is?03:57
Parisi1shadeofgrey Have you replaced the xorg.conf ?03:57
Gregerah sry03:57
ColonelKernelI notice if you just pop the cd in it asks you if you want to upgrade, I just wanted to know if this is actually safe, I mean gcc4 and nvidia drivers and the such...03:58
Parisi1shadeofgrey The driver should be "nvidia" as opposed to "nv03:58
weobwhat do linux users use for benchmarking linux 3d card drivers?03:58
weobtuxracer ? ;)03:58
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Parisi1we glx gears ?03:58
weobglxgears doesnt show fps any more03:59
shadeofgreyits set right i just checked it03:59
nekostarwulfy814, no no one has answered that // BreezyInCalif no no other options03:59
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Gregerquake 3? enemy territory?03:59
Parisi1It doesnt? aw03:59
weobglxgears aint no benchmark03:59
shadeofgreylemme try a full reboot03:59
Kiraweob: and Windows users use minesweeper to benchmark 2d performance. ;P03:59
Cyrushey can anyone help me with Dual-Bootin03:59
weobquake 3 is outdated03:59
Entranced GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>03:59
weoblol03:59
icarus!tell icarus about flash03:59
Parisi1i'll be back later.03:59
Parisi1weo1 Anything that rins natevely under linux.03:59
Parisi1runs*03:59
Entrancedicarus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656303:59
weobive installed ut2004 and played it but havent figured out how to get fps nor the results of a benchmark03:59
wulfy814Entranced: it seems to be multiverse that's broken right?03:59
OokiiNikuso heres the wrap up03:59
Entrancedno idea03:59
FliesLikeABrickgoogle should tell you how to see fps weob03:59
OokiiNikui have a good cable03:59
weobok04:00
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benkong2_Entranced; thanks....04:00
wulfy814Entranced: yes, if you remove it from /etc/apt/sources04:00
wulfy814then error goes04:00
wulfy814so it's just multivers04:00
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Entrancedbenkong2, for what ?04:00
OokiiNikuand the network card recognizes there is a cable.... i insert a static ip, i can't ping, i go to dhcp no network04:00
wulfy814but, that's where msttcorefonts are04:00
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wulfy814and many other things I want :-)04:00
benkong2_Entranced; thegpg error i got04:00
OokiiNikuany ideas?04:00
twokneeEntranced i am getting the same error but no one has proposed a solution for me04:00
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Entrancedyup04:00
pjstolixhi04:00
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Entrancedno idea what is up with the GPG BADSIG04:01
pjstolixim a big problem witg ipod on ubuntu hoary04:01
Baxter_KylieOi! No networking... doesn't recognize my logical partitions either... any help would be appreciate!04:01
jack-blackis there anyone here that is really good with internet connections?04:01
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jack-blackif so,... i need help04:01
OokiiNikui know debian reg dc-> network install works cause i did it twice debore going ubuntu04:01
navyncan anyone help me with a scanner problem?04:01
daved_if im running off the breezy livecd? how can i write an install to disk?04:01
Rev-MarcHow do I determine my kernel version?04:01
nekostarEntranced, the best ive come up with is reload about 3 times04:01
weobperhaps its a sourceslist problem?04:01
EntrancedRev-Marc, uname -l04:01
twokneeif the gpg error is that common shouldn't there my a tinyurl in the topic04:01
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BreezyInCalifnekostar - how 'bout umount and then mount using the -o=defaults option04:01
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Entrancednekostar,  :) hehe04:01
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Rev-MarcEntranced thank you04:01
nekostarok BreezyInCalif ill try that04:01
EppuOokiiNiku: what card is it anyway?04:01
nekostarso it would be04:02
EntrancedRev-Marc, NP04:02
CyrusSomeone, please help me04:02
nekostarsudo mount -t -o=defaults /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura <<-=-=?04:02
Cyrusi need info on dual-booting.04:02
EntrancedFor installation of EXTRA stuff that doesn't come stock try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656304:02
OokiiNikuthe card is a 10/100 lan+56k modem card pcima laptop card04:02
icaruscyrus, what are you trying to dual boot?04:02
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naliothCyrus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo04:02
BreezyInCalifnekostar - it would be "/mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura -o=defaults" (assuming that it is formatted as an ext3 filesystem04:03
daved_can i do a real install from a livecd?04:03
apokryphosdaved_: nope04:03
EppuookiiNiku: what does sudo lspci -v say for that card?04:03
daved_i'm booted into the livecd now04:03
Rev-MarcEntranced I got "uname: invalid option -- l"04:03
bimberidaved_: no04:03
daved_apokryphos: lame04:03
EntrancedRev-Marc, one sec04:03
nekostareh yeah it is and yeah ok thanx a LOT!04:03
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pjstolixsomebody help me04:03
EntrancedRev-Marc, uname -a04:03
anthonyWhen starting the mplayer, I keep getting the error message "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)." How do I fix this?04:03
Entrancedsorry04:03
apokryphos"help me" has to be one of the most useless phrases people use :)04:03
weobyes i got that one too04:03
BreezyInCalifnekostar - sorry - that should be "/mount -t ext3 -o=defaults /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura"  - bad cut/paste04:04
weobi think that one is common04:04
Rev-MarcEntranced NP thanks again04:04
pjstolixhahaha04:04
pjstolixsorry04:04
Cyrusmsg Icarus i already looked at that04:04
budluvahrmm04:04
pjstolixan ipod04:04
weobits beta software so dont worry - but maybe making people aware is good ; )04:04
Cyruswait04:04
pjstolixi need help with an ipod shuffle04:04
pjstolix51204:04
Cyrusmsg Icarus sorry, i read the wrong thing04:04
weobwho wants an ipod with videoo ?04:04
Eppuanthony: install mplayer-fonts04:04
icaruscyrus: its ok dude04:04
BreezyInCalifGot to go ... good luck to all and thanks to many :)04:04
pjstolixi : )04:04
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apokryphosdaved_: the dvd can though04:04
anthonyEppu: Okay, thanks.04:04
pjstolixxD04:04
Cyrusmsg icarus so whats wrong is.04:04
pjstolixin ubuntu04:04
Cyrusuhhh04:05
niggpieHi there. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 after previously using 5.04. For some reason, when Ubuntu loads, all I get is a green/white/black screen that looks absolutely morbid, yet I can see my mouse cursor and move it around.. but nothing more. I suspect something's up with the video. Does 5.10 not support my ASUS Radeon 9200SE? :( I've browse the forums, but haven't come across any others experiencing similar issues. Any insight?04:05
Cyruswell04:05
pjstolixi try to sincronize04:05
weobi just bought a ipod photo not too long ago04:05
Cyrusi get to the manual partition04:05
Cyrusand i set up 3 partitions.04:05
OokiiNikuEppu: i don't know which one it is04:05
weob40 giger04:05
makkkentranced, i cant seem to find where to download that script. i can see the image, but see no link for the file04:05
pjstolixbut04:05
makkkentranced, that is the automatix script04:05
icaruscyrus: did the partitions work?04:05
Entrancedit's on the other side of the screenshot04:05
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Entrancedmakkk, .gz04:05
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pjstolixthe ipod dont process04:06
pjstolixxD04:06
EppuOokiiNiku: oh, you said pcmcia, sorry. It is not listed there then04:06
Cyruswell...here's the situation04:06
Cyrusin windows.04:06
Entrancedmakkk, look to the right of the screenshot...there is a link to tar.gz file04:06
makkkentranced. not swhowing up. let me try a diff browser04:06
Cyrusi have 1 HD04:06
OokiiNikui see the audio, video, bridge, usb, ide bridge,04:06
pjstolixaaaa is a spanish channel of ubuntu?04:06
Cyrusand its set up in 2 paritions04:06
OokiiNikuyea04:06
Cyrusa 70 GB C:\ Partition04:06
Cyruswith my windows stuff04:06
Entrancedmakkk, firefox works04:06
weobbought my ipod in july actually04:06
Cyrusthat i don't want to harm.04:06
pjstolixjpor que nadie cacha nada04:06
Cyrusand a D:\ Drive04:06
pjstolixalgien que hable espaol?04:06
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Cyrusthat was originally a recovery partition.04:06
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makkkentranced, nm, it was off to the side. i had to scroll right to see it. thanks04:07
nalioth!es04:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:07
Entrancedmakkk,  HEhehe04:07
_TemujinWhat's the best viewer/plugin for WMV or ASF files...04:07
pjstolixgracias04:07
weobmaybe the newer beta vlc?04:07
nalioth_Temujin: you need w32codecs for most of them04:07
weobi dunno - ive had hit or miss play with that on os x04:07
naliothubotu: tell _Temujin about w32codecs04:07
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Entranced_Temujin, check this place http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656304:07
OokiiNikuwell everyone i got to go, but i will prob be back04:07
weobi love vlc best on os x its just so damn sexy04:07
icaruscyrus: ok, hmmmm, dude, i really don't know sorry, I just set my partitions automatically04:07
OokiiNikuthanks for the troubleshooting04:07
jmainanyone else have an issue with gksu?04:07
icaruscyrus: sorry i wasn't much help man04:08
OokiiNiku:-(04:08
OokiiNikuthanks again04:08
Cyrusok04:08
Cyrusthats fine anyway04:08
Cyrusthanks04:08
Cyruspaging naolity04:08
Cyrus*naolith04:08
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robertjhrmm04:08
robertjits not a volume problem04:08
wile_coyotei have a ?04:08
robertjrhythmbox plays each audio file in /usr/share/sounds in .1 sec ;)04:08
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naliothCyrus: ?04:09
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Cyrushey04:09
Cyruscan you help me out04:09
Cyrusi already read that tutorial04:09
navynanybody know a good room to help with scanners?04:09
Cyrusits not working for me.04:09
wile_coyotei'm trying to login the latest live cd04:09
naliothCyrus: refresh me please04:09
weobwmv and asf are just not good file formats - i dont recommend them04:09
wile_coyoteumm...login and password?04:09
FliesLikeABrickdoes breezy have the "root terminal" thing like hoary did?04:09
weobwonder if its possible to install wmp in wine ? anyone know04:09
naliothweob: why would you want to?04:10
warpforgewhy do you want WMP?04:10
weobperhaps v 6.404:10
Cyrusok, uh, you sent me the link for the tutorial on the wiki04:10
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Cyrusi tried that.04:10
Cyrusand it didn't work04:10
jmainI can sudo fine but gksu fails04:10
Cyrusso right now04:10
weobjust to play the crappy format04:10
Cyrusi have 1 hard drive04:10
Cyrus2 partitions04:10
Cyrusa C Drive04:10
Cyruswith my windows stuff04:10
Cyrusat appx. 70 GB04:10
Cyrusand a D Drive04:10
weobit is quite prolific on the web04:10
apokryphosjmain: should be using gksudo, if you're not..04:10
Cyruswhich was my recovery drive04:10
apokryphos!enter04:10
ubotudon't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!04:10
naliothCyrus: Cyrus please join #kubuntu-offtopic04:10
jmainI will try that04:10
warpforgeweob: just install win32 codecs04:10
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Cyrus...is installing Kubuntu like installing Ubuntu?04:10
weobhow do i do that apt-get install win32 codecs ?04:10
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naliothCyrus: yes it is04:11
warpforge!tell weob about win3204:11
jmaincool that works04:11
naliothubotu: tell weob about w32codecs04:11
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weoblol04:11
warpforge!tell weob about win32codecs04:11
warpforgegoddamn04:11
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louixdo i have to burn another cd04:11
naliothwarpforge: no such thing, bud04:11
warpforgewhat is win32 codecs for the bot?04:11
louixor can i update ubuntu through synaptic04:11
wile_coyotecan anyone tell me the Breezy Badger livecd login and password?04:11
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bimberiwarpforge: w32codecs04:11
naliothlouix: use synaptic04:11
FliesLikeABricklouix,  read the topic04:11
louixthanx04:11
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wulfy814nekostar: apt-key update is your friend04:11
weobthank ye04:11
weobthank ye04:11
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louixhi-traffic04:12
louixthats fine04:12
wulfy814that fixed the gpg error for me04:12
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louixim leaving the machine on all night04:12
geppyHow can I make a tar archive greater than 2 gigs using Ubuntu-i386?04:12
warpforgebimberli: win32codecs isn't in the bot either04:12
apokryphoswarpforge: you didn't read what he said04:12
louixi hope my soundcard is supported this time04:12
navynmy scanner is in sane-backends.  how do i use that info to get it to work in ubuntu?04:12
Entrancedmarillat has w32codecs04:12
louixthat'll be the best04:12
louix:)04:12
naliothEntranced: marillat is a bad word here, please dont use it04:12
Entrancedhehe04:12
Entrancedwhat did he do ?04:13
bimberiwarpforge: take the "in" out :)04:13
geppyEntranced: most of his files aren't legal04:13
warpforgeah04:13
wile_coyotecan anyone tell me the Breezy Badger livecd login and password? please?04:13
geppyEntranced: At least in the states.04:13
Entrancedther you go04:13
weobdont need one?04:13
apokryphosEntranced: the repository has broken a few systems around here, too; debian and ubuntu vary too much as it is04:13
geppysince when do you need one?04:13
weoblive should be no password04:13
wile_coyotewhat login?04:13
bimberiwile_coyote: the username is ubuntu, no password is set04:13
orangeyhmm04:13
wile_coyotetried ubuntu04:13
Entrancedapokryphos, win32codecs didn't brake anything for me04:13
orangeyis there an "apt-get --fix-broken"?04:13
geppyanyone know about +2GB .tar.gz?04:13
wile_coyoteno worky04:14
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bimberiwile_coyote: are you locked out by the screensaver?04:14
louixthank you guys04:14
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warpforgeorangey: use synaptec04:14
geppyorangey: sudo apt-get -f install04:14
louixgoodnight :)04:14
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jfarrellhey all i did an apt-get install kdesktop, but i still cant see kde in my session popup04:14
jfarrellideas04:14
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naliothwtf was that?04:14
apokryphosjfarrell: err, it should be kubuntu-desktop04:14
geppyWhat can I use to make 2GB+ archives?04:14
wile_coyotecan04:15
apokryphosgeppy: quit flooding; if someome is willing/able to help, they will04:15
wile_coyotecan't login at all04:15
b3nwwhere to find w32codecs ? is that only on backports?04:15
apokryphos!tell b3nw about w32codecs04:15
Entrancedb3nw, yup04:15
wile_coyoteubuntu and no password doesn't work04:15
apokryphosEntranced: no04:15
b3nwpooy04:15
Entrancedmarillat04:15
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robertjDr_Willis: for some reason the module wasnt probed in but that didn't fix it04:15
apokryphosEntranced: no need to use it for that04:15
_Temujinw32codecs aren't installed by automatix04:15
orangeyHmm. I keep getting "The following packages have been kept back:"04:15
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b3nwbecause of copyright stuff?04:15
orangeyand it shows ~ 120 packages04:15
_Temujinyeah04:15
Entranced!tell Entranced  about w32codecs04:16
b3nwdoh04:16
apokryphosb3nw: check what ubotu sent you; you can get them from there.04:16
icarushey all, i've got a really dumb question: how do you know what your kernel version is??04:16
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b3nwi did, thanks04:16
Dr_Willisrobertj,  check the wikis and forums for your card perhaps - thers some bug or tweek needed04:16
apokryphosicarus: uname -r04:16
naliothjfarrell: install kubuntu-desktop04:16
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b3nwmy other q is, anyone here using xfce?04:16
jfarrelli am doing that04:16
ericmoritzhi04:16
jfarrelland all it saying is that their are unmet depends04:16
dooglusis it possible to ask apt-get to install a package without its dependancies?  I want "vm" (2 mb) but I don't want all the Emacs stuff that it depends on (46.7 mb)04:16
icarusapokryphos: thanks man!!!!!04:16
jfarrellthat it will not isntall04:16
Entrancedapokryphos, thnx my man !04:16
apokryphosjfarrell: can you pastebin the errors?04:16
jfarrellapokryphos: im on irssi04:16
apokryphosicarus, Entranced: np :)04:16
ericmoritzwhen I shut my laptop lid and I open it, nothing happens, the screen stays blank, any ideas?04:16
jfarrellwait a moment04:17
FliesLikeABrickerick,  press a key?04:17
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ericmoritznope04:17
ericmoritztried that :)04:17
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wile_coyotecan anyone tell me the Breezy Badger livecd login and password? please?04:17
wile_coyoteubuntu no worky04:17
virguleheya! What about a 2.4 kernel for breezy? (you can laugh but this old mac could use a light brain) What could break&smoke if I proceed?04:17
robertjDr_Willis: yeah, unfortunately not alot of answers :(04:17
bimberiericmoritz: <ctrl><alt>F1   then   <ctrl><alt>F704:18
Dr_Willisvirgule,  last i heard about someone trying that.. they came back a few hrs later and said they couldent do it.04:18
ericmoritzbimberi: nope, tried that too04:18
DreamgliderUbuntu is so sweet :)04:18
Dreamglidergood night folks04:18
wile_coyote<sigh>04:18
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dooglusericmoritz: perhaps it tried to hibernate, but crashed instead?04:18
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ericmoritzdooglus: could be04:18
Eppudooglus: try downloading the deb file and using dpkg --ignore-depends -i package.deb04:19
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dooglusericmoritz: so you might want to disable hibernation (however you do that...)04:19
Eppudooglus: use apt-get --print-uris to show the download URL if needed04:19
dooglusEppu: thanks.04:19
bimberiwile_coyote: the livecd logs in automatically.  where are you being asked to login?04:19
Chrisw01Anyone here help me with ubuntu 5.10 on a iMac G5?04:19
wizatcompis there any way to disable "tap to click" on ubuntu for a trackpad?04:19
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ericmoritzI got hoary to work by making it just blank the screen but I can't remember how I did that04:19
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wile_coyoteafter boot04:19
virgulethx.. another issue I have: The system 'freeze' when I hold the mouse button down for a little while as well as when I drag a window around.. Whats that?04:19
naliothChrisw01: there is no help for you04:19
budluvahow do i find out my enlightenment version?04:19
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niggpieI've installed a fresh copy of 5.10, however upon boot.. my screen is green/white/black and all I see is my mouse cursor, nothing more. I believe this is a video problem. Any suggestions? (5.04 worked fine)04:19
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wile_coyoteit's the i386 version04:19
apokryphosbudluva: dpkg -l|grep enlightenment?04:19
jcmcbethHey, i'm trying to setup ip masquerading, what would be the easiest way to do that? I read on the forums about a ipmasq package, but I don't think it exist anymore.  I already setup a dhcp server.04:20
weobdoes that win32codecs deb package work on os x maybe ?04:20
weobor perhaps there is already a portage04:20
bimberiwile_coyote: hm, that's not what happens for me.  So I don't know sry04:20
naliothweob: heh , no04:20
Chrisw01nalioth, heh.. thanks.. I normaly run it on Intel, wanted to see what it would do with ppc04:20
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weoboh well04:20
wile_coyotethanks anyway04:20
naliothChrisw01: the imac G5 will be supported in Dapper Drake04:20
wile_coyotemaybe a rebot is in order04:20
weobos x has the crappy v 9 player i suppose it works04:20
wile_coyotelaterz04:20
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Chrisw01nalioth, 5.10 doesn't support the G5?04:21
Eppujcmbeth: Do you mean ip masquerading specificially or just a NAT in general?04:21
naliothChrisw01: unfortunately for you an me, no.04:21
erickjcmbeth http://www.bayanihan.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=15 try this site04:21
bimberiniggpie: try reconfiguring X,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:21
TFP_i really like the new release04:22
Yetr2which file in ubuntu contains the configuration for setting the default text editor?04:22
Chrisw01nalioth, that blows!04:22
Razor-Xhas TOC recently changed around its protocol?04:22
jcmcbethI'm not sure what the difference is, I want to use my linux box as a router for my network.04:22
jmainAre the repositories from ubuntuguide ok for breezy for installing extra apps (mplayer)04:22
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niggpiebimberi I followed instructions to do that on the forums "enter E at boot and then press C for command prompt" but when I enter that command you quote, it says it is unrecognized...04:22
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naliothChrisw01: i know. i've been waiting for breezy so i can have ubuntu on MY imac04:22
Razor-Xjcmcbeth: you have to have as many NICs as you have computers that want to connect to the router04:22
Eppujcmbeth: Well, how about installing firestarter? It allows you to setup a NAT very easily.04:22
apokryphosjmain: that guide is a pile of trash -- who knows. Better to go by the wiki04:22
FliesLikeABrickRazor-X,  no he doesn't what about a switch or hub?04:22
jcmcbethI have a switch.04:23
Razor-XFliesLikeABrick: but it won't be simeltaneous04:23
FliesLikeABrickah04:23
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Razor-Xa switch isn't a simeltaneous connection, like a router is04:23
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ericmoritzI think I fixed it by just making acpi blank the screen instead of suspending or hibernating, anyone know how to do that?04:23
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WinZhave anybody mounted Gmail account under Ubuntu?04:23
bimberiniggpie: i don't know about the E and C bit, I'd try <ctrl><alt>F2 when it gets to the blank screen after booting normally, then log in and try it there04:23
naliothjmain: the ubuntuguide is very outdated for breezy, please dont use it04:23
Razor-Xwhich means that two computers on the same switch using BitTorrent aren't going to be happy04:23
Chrisw01nalioth, so what does the powerpc version work on?04:23
jmainok.  I will use the wiki04:24
Razor-Xnalioth: you know, PPC is endangered04:24
FliesLikeABrickchris-x,  mac ?04:24
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naliothChrisw01: mac mini, powermacs, emacs04:24
weobnot so04:24
niggpiebimberi I don't boot normally. I get green/white/black and a cursor... like the video looks completely morbid.04:24
Chrisw01nalioth, thats not what the website says..04:24
weobxbox 360 and ps3 will use ppc04:24
naliothChrisw01: older G4 imacs, powerbooks, ibooks04:24
shadonehola04:24
_Temujincan I get w32codecs through apt-get?04:24
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Eppujcmbeth: A more manual way is to write a small script to run a few iptables commands, put that script in /etc/init.d/ and add some symlinks04:24
Razor-Xnalioth: emacs can run Ubuntu already?04:24
weobeven though it wont be on a mainstream comp - it still exists04:24
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niggpieI somehow have to get to a command prompt before it realeases to the boot..04:24
nalioth_Temujin: only through ubotu04:24
apokryphos!tell _Temujin about w32codecs04:24
VersedI have ubuntu on my g4 450, infact it's upgrading itself right now.04:24
Razor-Xweob: will the processors be actively made?04:24
uboodoohi all04:24
naliothRazor-X: settle down04:24
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rob_pjcmcbeth:  NAT How-to for Ubuntu -->  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/04:24
BROKEN_LADDERokay, so i change every instance of hoary to breezy, apt-get dist-upgrade ??04:24
bimberiniggpie: yes, then do a <ctrl><alt>F2 to get to a console and login04:24
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cdehaanGood Evening04:25
weobactively?04:25
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: yup04:25
Razor-Xweob: yeah04:25
uboodoowhere do I get the Automatix script?04:25
Chrisw01nalioth, from the website... Ubuntu is suitable for both desktop and server use. The current Ubuntu release supports PC (Intel x86), 64-bit PC (AMD64) and PowerPC (Apple iBook and Powerbook, G4 and G5) architectures.04:25
apokryphosBROKEN_LADDER: /topic04:25
cdehaanI just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop. I previously used 5.04. However 5.10 will not detect my wireless card04:25
uboodoohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 does not have the link04:25
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weobyou mean g4's and g5's?04:25
naliothChrisw01: yes. it works great on my dual G5 powermac04:25
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_Temujincan I get w32codecs through apt-get?04:25
apokryphos_Temujin: can you read what ubotu sent you?04:25
bimberiBROKEN_LADDER: update before dist-upgrade04:25
dooglusEppu: the command I needed was "sudo dpkg --ignore-depends emacs21 -i vm_7.19-4_all.deb" - thanks for your help.04:25
nalioth_Temujin: NO YOU CAN NOT04:25
apokryphos_Temujin: it's not in any of the ubuntu repos04:25
Versednalioth do you dual boot it with OSX?04:25
Razor-Xthey removed it from the repos?04:26
nomasteryoda|wshould I replace my Ubuntu breezy that was built via upgrade with the CD install? ... is there a difference?04:26
apokryphosRazor-X: yes04:26
dooglusnalioth: he could if he could find a repository with it in!04:26
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uboodoo!Automatix04:26
ubotuuboodoo: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:26
bimberi_Temujin: or we are all going to prison :)04:26
naliothVersed: yes, but OSX doesnt see the light of day too much04:26
Razor-Xapokryphos: about time04:26
Chrisw01nalioth, thanks for the info..04:26
FliesLikeABricknomasteryoda, its ok04:26
VersedOK04:26
Eppudooglus: you're welcome.04:26
FliesLikeABricknomasteryoda,  no need to04:26
niggpiealright I will try that, thx bimberi04:26
naliothdooglus: i'm not here to teach folks to add repos04:26
apokryphosRazor-X: it was removed from multiverse **ages** ago04:26
VersedI mean I only installed it on an older mac.04:26
bimberiniggpie: good luck :)04:26
Versedworks fine.04:26
uboodootell uboodoo about Automatix04:26
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naliothChrisw01: ##apple is available for further questions04:26
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apokryphosuboodoo: don't forget the bot char ! :)04:27
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uboodoo!tell uboodoo about Automatix04:27
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apokryphosuboodoo: and better to use /msg for investigating :)04:27
navyncan somebody please help me get my scanner working?04:27
johnny_i just installed breezy and the monitor is going funny04:27
johnny_i can see all this fuzz04:28
apokryphosjohnny_: make sure you have the respective drivers installed04:28
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uboodooanyone knows about Automatix?04:28
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apokryphosjohnny_: if the problem persists, consider reconfiguring your X server04:28
Chrisw01nalioth, thanks...04:28
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nomasteryoda|wjohnny_, do Ctrl+Alt+F304:28
nomasteryoda|wor F104:28
Entranceduboodoo, it is sloooow right now04:28
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Total_assaulthey, how do you setup wireless network in 5.10? I heard it is now intergrated?04:28
Total_assaultps i have 64 bit04:28
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Concord_Dawn!breezy04:29
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade04:29
uboodooEntranced do u have the link though?04:29
dooglusEppu: now that I've "--ignore-depends"'ed the issue, apt-get is complaining that there's an error.  Can I somehow sooth apt-get?04:29
orangeywhat's the difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and synaptic - > smart upgrade ?04:29
Concord_Dawnyay04:29
Entrancedhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656304:29
johnny_just changing the res fixed it04:29
johnny_ok.. now just need to speed it up04:29
apokryphosorangey: the GUI04:29
nomasteryoda|wkool04:29
Entrancedjohnny_,  W00T!04:29
Eppudooglus: apt-get --fix-broken perhaps04:29
orangeyapokryphos: great..04:29
uboodooEntranced that link does not have the automatix.tar file04:29
johnny_any ideas for making it run faster with 128MB ram04:29
navynwhat are sane-backends?04:29
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Entrancedit does04:29
johnny_that's my real question04:29
Entranceduboodoo, it does04:30
Razor-Xjohnny_: Ubuntu itself?04:30
thoreauputicdooglus: it's always possiblr you actually *needed* the dependencies ;P04:30
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nomasteryoda|w!tell nomasteryoda about automatix04:30
naliothjohnny_: use xubuntu-desktop04:30
johnny_hmm.. what's that?04:30
Razor-Xjohnny_: you can do a number of things, really04:30
johnny_i've never heard of that one04:30
Entranceduboodoo, look to the right of the screenshot04:30
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naliothjohnny_: an ubuntu xfce4 desktop04:30
dooglusthoreauputic: I don't need them - I've compiled much more recent versions of them from the CVS repository04:30
Razor-Xjohnny_: xubuntu is a variant of Ubuntu that uses XFce, a light window manager04:30
uboodooEntranced : unless I need a pair of glass I do not see it04:30
johnny_ahaha xfce04:30
erickjcmcbeth have you try the link I gave to you04:30
brennerdoes anyone have their synaptics touchpad configged?  i've set TapButton1 to 1 in my xorg.conf file, but i'm still getting taps registered as middle-click, rather than left.04:30
DonLHi folks04:30
thoreauputicdooglus: aha I see :)04:30
Razor-Xjohnny_: you can use lighter WMs as well04:30
uboodoois it at the top?04:30
Razor-Xjohnny_: XFce is very nice for its size, though04:30
dooglusEppu: --fix-broken's solution is to install the 44Mb of old emacs packages that I don't want...04:31
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Entranceduboodoo, get some glasses pronto!04:31
johnny_i normally use gentoo.. but installing ubuntu for a friend04:31
uboodoohehe04:31
weobfreekiin  freekin04:31
uboodooEntranced: Is it at the top?04:31
thoreauputicdooglus: did you install them with checkinstall? I guess apt doesn't know about them?04:31
Razor-Xjohnny_: oh, ok then04:31
Eppudooglus: I'm not sure there is a clean way to fix it otherwise. The dependencies are not meant to be ignored, really04:31
johnny_i'm very intimate with manual configuration of xorg04:31
Entranceduboodoo, look to the right of the screenshot (first post on the bottom of it) File Type: gz  automatix-breezy.tar.gz04:31
johnny_and other linux stuffs04:32
FliesLikeABrickhow do i use md5 to verify my breezy download?04:32
pjstolixhelp me with a shuffle ipod04:32
dooglusthoreauputic: the problem is that GNU Emacs is constantly in development, but never makes a release.  the ubuntu version is very out of date, but it's the newest release.  the only solution is to use the CVS stuff04:32
chris-xFliesLikeABrick: no mac, why?04:32
Razor-Xjohnny_: then you should know the tricks of the trade: WMs, Terminal Emulators, more dependance on console utilities04:32
calcFliesLikeABrick: md5sum filename04:32
johnny_md5sum ubuntu.iso04:32
dooglusthoreauputic: I used dpkg -i --ignore-depends04:32
FliesLikeABrickchris-x,  didn't mean to highlight you04:32
johnny_well.. i'd like them to use gnome ;)04:32
thoreauputicdooglus: I'm assuming apt/dpkg doesn't know about the stuff you compiled04:32
Razor-Xdooglus: yeah, I have to do the same, unfortunately04:32
johnny_and metacity04:32
Eppudooglus: I would not use ignore depends. Just install from source, much cleaner04:32
jcmcbetheppu: Where can I get firestarter? I tried "sudo apt-get install firestarter" but it said it couldn't find the package.04:32
dooglusthoreauputic: it doesn't, no...04:32
johnny_that's why i'm asking for other ideas04:32
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johnny_cuz gnome is very lovely04:32
johnny_with metacity04:32
uboodooEntranced: I see it now.. I had to slide my browser horizontal scroll bar to the right04:32
pjstolix/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.04:32
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pjstolix/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.04:33
uboodooit was hidden04:33
Eppujcmcbeth: It's in the universe repository, you need add to the package manager.04:33
pjstolix/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.04:33
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thoreauputicdooglus: that's why I mentioned checkinstall04:33
pjstolix/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.04:33
pjstolixplz help04:33
uboodooEntranced: thanks04:33
DonLjohnny_, yes gnome is pretty04:33
dooglusthoreauputic: I'll take a look, thanks04:33
Razor-Xpjstolix: don't paste something in here three times04:33
thoreauputic!checkinstall04:33
jmainstill can't seem to find the mplayer debs in the repositories.04:33
ubotuwell, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall04:33
pjstolixsorry04:33
Razor-Xpjstolix: if someone can help you, they will, just wait04:33
thoreauputicbah04:33
_Temujinok... Here's an easy one.  After I download a .deb file, how do I install it :)04:33
thoreauputic!info checkinstall04:33
ubotucheckinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB04:33
apokryphospjstolix: quit flooding04:33
Entranceduboodoo, np...be aware it takes forever!04:33
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pjstolixyea yea04:33
pjstolixsorry04:33
Razor-Xubotu: don't paste in here :P04:33
ubotuRazor-X: Do they come in packets of five?04:33
nomasteryoda|wgak nalioth twas not I that asked ... ubotu04:34
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synackuatorso who's on breezy04:34
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nomasteryoda|wme04:34
Concord_Dawnthere any official torrents for the ISOs?04:34
b3nw< :)04:34
FliesLikeABrickyes Concord_Dawn04:34
johnny_i'm on breezy ..04:34
FliesLikeABrickConcord_Dawn,  http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/5.10/04:34
thoreauputic!lart Razor-X04:34
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DonLI have a wee problem.. crashed my system going from Hoary to Breezy, started back with Warty, updated to Hoary, and now can't remember how to configure nvidia glx04:34
Razor-Xhow many Breezy fanboys and fangirls are in the house? :P04:34
johnny_with amd k6 500mhz04:34
thoreauputic:D04:34
Razor-Xthoreauputic: don't even start that :P04:34
_TemujinI am.  First Debian based try...04:34
flodine5.0404:34
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nomasteryoda|wbeen that way for month. =D04:34
thoreauputicRazor-X: heheh04:34
synackuatorso can u upgrade from hoary without whiping everything?04:34
nomasteryoda|wyup04:35
FliesLikeABrickif my md5 is correct but my install media is corrupt, it had to be a bad burn, right?04:35
Razor-Xsynackuator: of course04:35
johnny_i can't wait for modular X to appear..04:35
Concord_DawnFliesLikeABrick: That site keeps timing out for me.04:35
wizatcompis it possible to disable the "tap to click" with a trackpad on a laptop?04:35
Dr_WillisFliesLikeABrick,  yea that would be my guess04:35
johnny_wizatcomp, it is possible .. i just don't personally know how ..04:35
EntrancedDonL, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver04:35
Dr_Williswizatcomp,  yes - should be doablbe by editing the xorg.conf04:35
wizatcompok04:35
EntrancedDonL, that worked for me04:35
synackuatorRazor-X: just run the regular install CD?  will I lose any confs / drivers / etc?04:35
FliesLikeABrickConcord_Dawn, just look at the ubuntu download site and it has official torrents04:35
BROKEN_LADDERholy god..the following will be upgrade...ZOING!!04:35
FliesLikeABrickvery quick ones i might add04:35
thoreauputic!ubuntuguide04:35
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.04:35
Razor-X!tell synackuator about breezy04:35
FliesLikeABrickyeah BROKEN_LADDER  lol04:35
wizatcompDr_Willis - thank you04:35
Concord_DawnFliesLikeABrick, I can't find them.04:35
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DonLEntranced, thank you. Much appreciated. Had it working before but don't know where I got the info04:36
apokryphos!tell Entranced about ubuntuguide04:36
johnny_hmm.. how come sans is default instead of bitstream vera sans?04:36
Entrancedapokryphos, I know :)04:36
brennerwizatcomp: i'm working out how to get it to left-click and not middle-click :-/04:36
Entrancedapokryphos, it works for nvidia just fine04:36
synackuatorRazor-X: thx04:36
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wizatcompbrenner, that's a problem =/04:36
_Temujin!tell _Temujin about w32codecs04:36
apokryphosEntranced: so? Doesn't justify its recommendation 8)04:36
brennerwizatcomp: is your's a synaptics touchpad?04:36
wizatcompbrenner, no04:36
Octaneever since i installed breezy when I boot alsa starts twice04:36
wizatcompi'm using a powerbook04:36
Octane"card 1 and card 2"04:37
Entrancedapokryphos, agreed04:37
mojoQuestion - If I have my internet on eth1 and roomie on eth0 (w/ dhcp3d), and want to set up another roomie on eth2, how do I do that?  I used Firestarter to set up the ipmasq for eth1 and it has no tertiary interface config in Firestarter.  Thx!04:37
bimberiyay, synaptics in correct context :)04:37
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Eppujohnny_: sans is usually alias for bitstream vera sans, check /etc/fonts/fonts.conf04:37
DonLEntranced, I'm going to try that now. Bye for now04:37
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Entrancedhehe04:37
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johnny_aha.. i can see that now..04:37
_Temujin!tell _Temujin about deb04:37
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johnny_argh.. why must somebody steal my nick..04:37
_Temujin!tell _Temujin about .deb04:37
wizatcompmmm04:37
wizatcompbrb04:37
rob_pmojo:  Either use a switch (the easiest), or write your own iptables rules.04:37
b3nwdoes anyone know what the "Terminal Server Client" package is?04:38
weobthat win32 codecs not downloading - is the tracker /   seeds down?04:38
_Temujin!tell04:38
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_Temujin10KB/s for me...04:38
Entrancedb3nw, It allows you to connect to Winblows Terminal services04:38
b3nwno04:38
b3nwthe package name04:38
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mojorob_p: do i man iptables to learn how?04:38
Ravenskyerr...umm...when I installed phpbb and wordpress through Adept, where'd it put them?04:38
b3nwi know what it does :)04:38
naliothweob: i've got several leeches showing on my seed(s)04:38
johnnyyou also need to enable ip_forward04:38
weoboh ok now its downloading - a breezy 2.2k down04:39
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Entrancedb3nw, tsclient04:39
johnnyi got breezy fastest from canadian mirror04:39
b3nwbittorrent starts slow and gains04:39
rob_pmojo:  That would be a start... be prepared to spend some serious time with it though.04:39
weobat least i can watch wmv by tomorrow ; )04:39
b3nwEntranced - ty! :)04:39
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Entrancedb3nw, be more specific when asking :) hehe04:39
mojoi didn't set up the route and network by hand.  now i see i should have so i learned the manual steps04:39
nomasteryoda|wjohnny, me too04:39
nomasteryoda|wfast04:39
jrattner1johnny, send me the mirror04:39
b3nwsorry, trying to patch the program into xfce4 without getting lots of gnome baggaeg04:39
foxinesshi04:39
b3nwbaggage04:39
James686anyone here know how the hell I can set up Ubuntu to detect my wireless Linksys Network-G network card?04:39
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foxinessgoodmorning04:40
felonhi04:40
jrattner1im getting 16 KB/s from bittorrent now04:40
foxinessis there a differnet butween installing ubuntu-desktop before or after doing upgrade?04:40
nomasteryoda|w!tell James686 about ndiswrapper04:40
jrattner1James686, ndiswrappers04:40
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apokryphosfoxiness: yes. You shouldn't upgrade without it.04:40
apokryphosfoxiness: see /topic04:40
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felondo i need to reformat before i install ubuntu?04:40
felonor will it do it for me04:40
apokryphosfelon: /topic04:41
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vertigoyou can have it do it04:41
jrattner1johnny, ?04:41
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annexfelon: You can have the installer format/partition etc.04:41
johnnyit's on the mirror list04:41
mojorob_p: thx04:41
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feloni have the iso04:41
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jrattner1johnny, which one04:42
johnnythe first one?04:42
johnnyW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>04:42
foxinessapokryphos, i read the note before the page get update "what the install ubuntu-desktop last one" and i read it now after the change and it on the first step what should i do ?04:42
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FliesLikeABrickjohnm,  apt-key update04:42
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johnnystupid xchat autocomplete :)04:42
naliothFliesLikeABrick: actually it's 'hammered server syndrome'04:42
rob_pmojo:  Good luck with it!04:42
apokryphosfoxgamer: never upgrade without it, as it says :)04:42
malveria1What's the best way to update from Hoary (completely up to date) to Breezy? Just edit my sources list?04:42
johnnyi know.. but i'm not setting this up for me.. i'm setting this up for newbs :)04:42
James686and then, how can I setup the installation CD to recognize my Nvidia GeforeFX 5500 video card?04:43
apokryphosmalveria1: /topic04:43
naliothjohnny: are you completing your apt-get updates cleanly?04:43
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johnnyi just installed :)04:43
foxinessapokryphos, am upgrade from 5.04 to breezy-rc04:43
weobwell which one are you using= hoary or breezy?04:43
weobbut should be the same04:43
foxgamerapokryphos: eh? lol04:43
jrattner1johnny, was it in the main folder?04:43
johnnyi just don't know the specific ins and outs of ubuntu04:43
malveria1apokryphos: Thanka.04:43
apokryphosfoxiness: I think you mean breezy official; not rc :P04:43
weobas long as nvidia-glx is installed it should be working04:43
brennerfelon: use the iso to create a CD, then follow the "breezy cd and synaptic" instructions04:43
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James686how do I install it?04:44
weobopen synaptic package manager04:44
felonbrenner04:44
foxinessapokryphos, is there a diff ?04:44
felonwhere are the instructions04:44
mojorob_p: thx.  i was hopin to spin up ubuntu on this extra box w/o having to down this box's internet connection.  but i will probl just futz with the iptables after i get that box up.  i won't actually need-need the eth2 inf routing set up for a few weeks.04:44
James686ummm, how do I do that? lol04:44
johnnywhere did the terminal option go?04:44
sinboxhi04:44
brennerfelon: on the wiki page in the topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:44
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weobshould be in the menus04:44
johnnyoh.. it moved04:44
foxinessapokryphos, butween the RC and the Official one ?04:44
nomasteryoda|wjohnny,  i wanted to know that too04:44
thoreauputic!openterm04:44
ubotuTo add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package04:44
apokryphosfoxiness: you can't upgrade to RC anyway unless you have the RC cd04:44
weobim in kde right now but in gnome it seasy to find04:44
johnnythere is no root term option04:44
apokryphosfoxiness: bugfixes, final tweaks etc etc04:44
johnnyanymore04:44
anathema_anyone here know if there is a cpu temp monitoring tool in linux? (preferably in apt?)04:44
felonTHANKS04:44
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weobits called sudo04:44
brennerfelon: that *should* keep all your stuff intact...not 100% sure though04:45
johnnyyeah.. it just changed that's all04:45
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synackuatorwow i think my sources list is gonna screw up my system04:45
felon???04:45
felonidk04:45
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rob_pmojo:  Any reason you insist on using separate interfaces?04:45
thoreauputicjohnny: for  a root shell just type  sudo -i04:45
James686I cant get to the desktop because it says somethin like the X server could not continue because it appears I dont have any displays or whatever...04:45
johnnyi had setup hoary for somebody else04:45
synackuatorshouldn't you be able to change all hoarys to breezys?04:45
sinboxquick question: what are the minimum specs to runn a live CD?  I have PII 200Mhz with 64Meg of ram, will it work?04:45
weobsources list will not screw it up04:45
apokryphossynackuator: er, why?04:45
weobwill only fail to connect04:45
Aragorn_Guardianhi all04:45
ericmoritzshould synaptic ask to upgrade 345 packages after upgrading with the cd?04:45
apokryphossynackuator: /topic04:45
foxinessapokryphos, i mean diff on install ubuntu-desktop on first or on last step on do the upgrade04:45
thoreauputicsinbox: I doubt it04:45
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Eppuanathema: lm-sensors is the backend and there are several frontends04:45
jrattner1Where in FTP are iso images located? in main or multiverse or universe04:45
James686lol...sinbox...thats kinda...wow...sad...04:46
mojorob_p: but it will be worth going thru the manual steps, give me sumthin to play with after spinnin this friends box.  he is very end-user but curious and wants to try linux on sys with win2k dual boot.  his intersts are more for his business plans than games anyway.  ;)04:46
sinboxoki thanks thoreauputic04:46
apokryphosfoxiness: have you not read the link? :) Dist-upgrade needs ubuntu-desktop to appropriately determine the packages to keep/install04:46
synackuatorapokryphos: o thanks04:46
thoreauputicsinbox: although a server install with xubuntu-desktop or icewm or fluxbox would run04:46
sinboxthansk to you too james04:46
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rob_pmojo:  I mean, there are legitimate reasons for such thing, but not for most applications.04:46
James686why do you have a computer thats so low on...well, everything?04:46
thoreauputicsinbox: I have hoary running on a 200 mmx with 64MB RAM04:46
sinboxask my neighbours to put better stuff in their rubbish bins04:46
James686lmao I see04:46
thoreauputicJames686: old boxes can be useful04:46
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James686yeah I didnt mean to sound harsh or anything man04:47
nomasteryoda|wsinbox, you need to check local computer store rubbish bins04:47
nomasteryoda|wreally04:47
thoreauputicJames686: *cough* have you headof remote X or NX ?04:47
nomasteryoda|wi have 6 boxes that were assembled from that stuff04:47
rob_pmojo:  My advice would be to download someone else's NAT firewall script and then hack it to support NAT for a third interface.  Anyway, as I said... good luck with it!04:47
James686no...Im new to Linux lol04:47
Aragorn_Guardiani have some .deb downloaded from synaptic....but i cant install all of them ina rapid way, always need package dependence....04:47
sinboxwell, that is gonna be my first try at linux so I thought I'd try the live CD to get an idea first, soon as I have smoothwall runing on the other box04:47
brennerjrattner1: follow the links on the official site04:47
jcmcbethAlright, I have installed firestarter! now, where can I find it?04:48
James686cant get any Linux OS's burned properly and ran on my computer...04:48
synackuatorumm, does 12,000 packages to be updated sound high to anyone??04:48
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mojorob_p: yeah.  i happen to have two ether ports on my mobo and a pci net card right here.  we have cable net, but no money to get a router just now. or switch.  yeah there cheap but i want to get a linksys wireless g router to share cablenet with the neighbors, and that's a few more bucks.  my roomie is set up off my eth0 and cablemodem on eth1.  i am firewall and router here.04:48
anethemaanyone here know if there is a cpu temp monitoring tool in linux? (preferably in apt?)04:48
thoreauputicJames686: my 200 mmx runs all my programs remotely from  a server - cheap thin client04:48
Aragorn_Guardianhow can i install a lot of packages at once? what is the better way?04:48
Eppujcmcbeth: It should be in Applications->Internet or System Tools04:48
latinoanethema:karamba?04:48
brennerAragorn_Guardian: what are you installing?04:48
linuxbombsynackuator, yes04:48
nomasteryoda|wanethema, lm_sensors04:48
rob_pmojo:  I see.  Well, have fun.04:48
naliothanethema: conky04:48
mojorob_p: the linksys has also been hacked with linux so i will get to play with that too and learn fun stuff04:48
foxinessapokryphos, thank you04:49
anethemalm_sensors eh..is it a bin?04:49
sinboxthanks all, I'll be off now, keep good see you around04:49
Eppuanethema: lm-sensors is the backend and there are several frontends (xsensors for example)04:49
anethemaconky? i will look04:49
anethemaok04:49
synackuatorlinuxbomb: 13hrs remaining04:49
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brennerAragorn_Guardian: you should use the repos if you can rather than manually using deb files04:49
naliothanethema: lm_sensors + conky04:49
mojorob_p: thanks, i will.  peace04:49
nomasteryoda|wsynackuator, lol04:49
nomasteryoda|wconky ...cool04:49
James686so how can I get Ubuntu to detect my graphics card as I said before?04:49
reikiwoo-hoo! I'm at 28% !!! (yawn)04:49
anethemaok installing04:49
anethemathanks again guys :)04:49
synackuatori think i'll wait until next week or so to upgrade04:49
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naliothsynackuator: perhaps a month or two (so the nasty bugs that pop up can be squashed)04:50
brennerJames686: did you try reconfigging xorg?04:50
nomasteryoda|wsynackuator, reallY? I just got cd dl in about 35 min04:50
synackuatornalioth: nasty bugs? wow that sounds encouraging04:51
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Aragorn_Guardianbrenner, so i can make a repository from that deb filkes, is that?04:51
James686is there a way I can use the advanced configuration on the Installation CD thats just like the configuration when you type in live-expert on the LiveCD?04:51
naliothsynackuator: you know what i mean04:51
reikinalioth: don't be talkin about no bugs.... /me makes the hex sign in nalioth's general direction ... I'm COUNTING on this being a nice upgrade :)04:51
anethemanalioth: conky draws onto my desktop background...covered in icons04:51
anethemacan you get a window or somehting ?04:51
brennerAragorn_Guardian: er, no....i mean, try and find the apps you need in the repo04:51
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naliothanethema: it is meant to be eye candy04:51
tty2hello, while installation ubuntu tried to install lilo, how can i select grub to beinstallen04:51
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Aragorn_Guardianok, i did this...I downloded 200Mb...04:51
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nomasteryoda|wanethema, how about gkrellm ?04:51
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naliothanethema: if you visit conky.sourceforge.net you can learn more about how to manipulate it04:51
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synackuatornomasteryoda: my burner broke and i'm too lazy to go get another one04:52
James686well?04:52
Aragorn_Guardiani wanna replicate for all others stations here...how could I?04:52
naliothnomasteryoda|w: conky is more advance, if you havent used it b404:52
nomasteryoda|wnalioth, cool04:52
brennerJames686: there's an expert install...not sure how close it is to the live-cd thing04:52
jcmcbethEppu: I got it working thanks!04:52
nomasteryoda|wwill try04:52
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ironuckleshello04:52
James686well how do I get to it?04:52
Eppujcmcbeth: no problem04:52
naliothnomasteryoda|w: visit conky.sf.net and check it out04:52
luiI was downloading the breezy live cd and then it was done but the size is 292.8MB it is rigth!?04:53
johnnywhat's a good cd burner proggy to use04:53
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johnnyubuntu livecds are not full enough04:53
luiI was downloading the breezy live cd and then it was done but the size is 292.8MB it is right!??04:53
johnny:(04:53
brennerJames686: when you boot off the cd, it tells you the command to use04:53
nomasteryoda|wnalioth, on there now04:53
anethemaok thanks nalioth..it reports cpu temp as 0c though04:53
anethemadoh04:53
nomasteryoda|wsweet04:53
reikiI think I'm gonna go to bed and let this update itself04:53
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johnnythe livecd for hoary was 400mb04:53
johnny~04:53
linuxbombjohnny, k3b04:53
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niggpieI've just installed a fresh copy of 5.10, but upon booting into Ubuntu, all I saw was a green/white/black pile of rubbish... suspecting video to be the cause of concern. I was told to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" which I had done.. tried all different configurations.. but now all I get is a black screen yet... I can see my cursor and move it around. Any ideas?? I'm new to Ubuntu, please help!04:53
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naliothanethema: that's a lm_sensor issue04:53
pioneeranyone know of any link or such where i might still get the w32codecs?04:53
johnnypioneer, google it04:54
luiI see that a little strange04:54
_Temujin!tell me about debian package04:54
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johnnysorry .. but trying to get it is puts people in a bind04:54
apokryphos!tell pioneer about w32codecs04:54
FliesLikeABrickniggpie, check your vsync and lsync in xorg.conf?04:54
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FliesLikeABrickfor your display04:54
anethemaok no idea how to fix that nalioth , ill do some reading04:54
tty2hello, while installation ubuntu tried to install lilo, how can i select grub to be installend04:54
ironucklesI'm not able to get some of the backport servers for synaptic. Anyone know why?04:54
pioneerjohnny, brilliant, gee i never thought of that04:54
brennerniggpie: so now you don't get the garbage, just a black screen?04:54
FliesLikeABrickironuckles, they're really busy04:54
FliesLikeABrickironuckles,  look at the topi04:54
FliesLikeABricktopic*04:54
_Temujinok... I downloaded the win32codecs debian package.  How do I install?04:54
niggpiejust black screen w/ mouse cursor04:54
apokryphospioneer: read what ubotu sent you04:54
pioneerty04:55
FliesLikeABrick_Temujin, dpkg -i path/to/package04:55
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brennerniggpie: ok, try and use the vesa driver for your video04:55
FlyingSquirrel32I set up a mysql server when I tried to install myth, but now I an't remeber the passwd. How can I reset the password04:55
ironucklesFliesLikeABrick, thanks04:55
johnny!tell johnny about w32codecs04:55
brennerniggpie: boot into recovery mode04:55
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glickwhy does every few seconds my mouse freeze for a second04:55
johnnyi can't believe that there still is no decent gtk based cd burning program!04:55
glickever since i upgraded to breezy04:55
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glickbreezy = freezy04:56
OrbordeI need some helpage. I just rearranged my hard drive, adding a separate partition for /home, copying everything there, and mounting it in. Now, it appears that fglrx broke because of it.04:56
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brennerjohnny: gnomebaker?04:56
bimberiniggpie: <ctrl><alt>F2 doesn't work?04:56
brennerjohnny: nautilus? :)04:56
johnnybrenner, would you really consider it a replacement for k3b?04:56
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foxinessif i installed sl-modem-source + sl-modem-daemon ,than did i need more step than that before i do restart "after i finish upgrade"?04:56
johnnyk3b makes me as happy as nero04:56
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FliesLikeABrickk3b is win04:56
OrbordeOkay, did anyone see that comment of mine a moment ago? X chose that moment to die.04:56
nomasteryoda|wthere's not anything that is good as k3b04:56
niggpienope, ctrl alt F2 didn't get me anywhere... still see black04:56
nomasteryoda|wperiod04:56
johnnyk3b is what?04:56
bimberinautilus is fine for data cd's and isos04:56
OrbordeOr rather, xchat did...04:56
ubuntuguyanyone: is there anyway to watch Apple's quicktime movie trailers from Ubuntu?04:57
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niggpieI used recovery mode to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:57
johnnysure bimberi .. but i like my stuff to be autoconverted04:57
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Orbordeubuntuguy: Did you get all the shiny codec files installed?04:57
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naliothubuntuguy: install libquicktime and mplayer mozilla plugin04:57
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bimberijohnny: riiiight04:57
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niggpieCould it be a driver related issue? I've never upgraded a driver in Linux before... difficult?04:57
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total_assaulthey04:57
hondjeniggpie: it's not as easy as you'd think :)04:58
niggpie:(04:58
hondjedepends on what module though04:58
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total_assaulthow does one setup a broadcom wireless network card on 5.10 x86-64?04:58
ubuntuguyOrborde: no04:58
nomasteryoda|wubuntuguy, that last one is the kicker... restart firefox afterward....04:58
niggpieATI 9200SE04:58
hondjeoh, that's easy04:58
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_maydayj_total_assault - ndiswrapper04:58
chiddyanyone in here using and Intel Wireless 2200 connection????04:58
ubuntuguynalioth: thanks, I'll try that04:58
johnnyuggh.. i feel sorry for those who have to use ndiswrapper04:58
jrattner1is it worth it to put /home on its own partition and if so can i configure this at installation time?04:58
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johnnyi use ipw2100 easily04:59
jrattner1johnny, its terrible04:59
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johnnyipw2200 drivers should be nearly as good04:59
total_assaultis there a how to for ubuntu on it, cause i wasted around 5 hrs with it and fedora core with no sucess04:59
hondjesudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx should do it for you04:59
glickcould my mouse be freezing cause of acpi?04:59
Amaranthjrattner1: Yes and yes.04:59
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johnnyglick, possible, but unlikely04:59
naliothjrattner1: personal preference and yes04:59
chiddyi'm using ipw2200 and get this after some time in dmesg using breezy: [4297864.742000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.04:59
jrattner1Amaranth, can i ever resize it if i want04:59
jrattner1Amaranth, after installation time04:59
glickjohnny, i cant think why else it would be doing that04:59
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total_assaulto btw thanks guys for before with xine, now i can watch my eurotrip :)05:00
jrattner1Amaranth, later down the road...05:00
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Amaranthjrattner1: Shouldn't be a problem but I've never done it. 5GB for / and the rest for /home should be good though.05:00
Earthenglick: I just got here what problem are you having with your mouse, cause i'm having a problem with mine also05:00
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SPCcrow!info links05:00
ubotulinks: (Character mode WWW browser), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 375 kB, Installed size: 936 kB05:00
glickEarthen, it just freezes for a secod every few seconds05:00
SPCcrow!info lynx05:00
ubotulynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB05:00
jrattner1Amaranth, yeh, i was going to do that or put all my music on a seperate partition05:00
glickespecially when i open a window or something05:00
glickits totally annoying05:01
niggpiehonje: thx!! I will try that :)05:01
niggpiebrb05:01
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mahanguwar driving programme for linux?05:01
stephis there a issue with breezy and cdrecord on an ide drive? or is it just me?05:01
johnnymahangu, kismet05:02
wizatmacmahangu: kismet05:02
Earthenglick: ok not my problem yours is probably some program useing up too much CPU I had a simmilar problem when i installed 3d desktop05:02
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johnnybut you can't use it with nidiswrapper afaik05:02
johnnymahangu, make sure your driver supports monitor mode05:02
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mahanguthanks guys05:02
mahangui dont need to05:02
johnnyaka rfmon05:02
mahangurun rfmon?05:02
weobru roh - i found another error in breeezy >: )05:02
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johnnyno.. your driver needs to support it05:02
apokryphosweob: lies! There are none!05:02
johnnythe kismet webpage mentions it05:02
mahanguhow do i check?05:02
johnnywhat kinda card?05:03
utnubudoes anyone know iceman?05:03
weobrunning firefox - alert - the file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found. please check the location and try again- ha!05:03
mahangujohnny, my vga?05:03
Earthenglick: have you installed anything just before this started05:03
johnnyno05:03
johnnythe wireless05:03
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mahanguah, t42 wifi, i think its BG2200?05:04
mahanguubuntu finds it05:04
FliesLikeABrickt42 does so awesome with linux05:04
glickno i just upgraded from hoary to breezy05:04
TylerDurdencan somsone explain to me why ubuntu is so choppy? i have a celeron 2.5, 768 ram and an ati 9200. but it feels as if i have 64 mb ram. i mean i open something and it takes 3 seconds to make the drum sound05:04
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speelAnybody having problems with the spca5xx driver?05:04
cfh_devIs there a way I can switch to kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop on an already running system?05:04
glickEarthen,  no i just upgraded from hoary to breezy05:04
johnnyhmm.. oh yeah.. i forgot to test sound05:04
felonhnmm05:04
zojakwhat is better for a linux noob, kde or gnome?05:04
johnnygnome imo05:04
weobkde for sure05:04
johnnylol05:04
modzerognome is simpler for noobs05:04
felongnome05:04
b3nwlol05:05
cfh_devlinux noob from what OS?05:05
FliesLikeABrickhow can i find out what wireless adapter i have in my system?05:05
weobif you say so05:05
Versedtoognome, it's cleaner and seems less choopy05:05
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zojakwindows05:05
speelzojak, you have to try both to know for your self :P05:05
dooglusthoreauputic: "checkinstall" was exactly what I needed.  thank you for your help!05:05
johnnyactually kde seems less choppy05:05
cfh_devkde is more like windows05:05
modzeroany id say05:05
weobkde IS less choppy05:05
mister_robotohow the hell is kde hard though?   it's even closer to windows05:05
apokryphoskde is less like windows05:05
thudfookde rox05:05
Earthenglick: ok check your system monitor and take a look at your cpu usage see if it look like a heart beat05:05
modzerothere both simple05:05
johnnylol05:05
apokryphos!start a desktop war05:05
ubotufluxbox is much better than xfce!05:05
mahanguFliesLikeABrick, you run breezy on your t42?05:05
modzerocompared to a command line05:05
robotgeekFliesLikeABrick: you can get all the info by using the command, lspci in a terminal05:05
johnnylspci!05:05
johnnyhehe05:05
apokryphos.......and for more discussion, #ubuntu-offtopic is waiting for you guys :)05:05
Earthenglick: ie spiking every few seconds05:05
FliesLikeABrickmine is atheros for t4205:05
zojakthe only difference between ubuntu and kubunti is gnome and kde right?05:06
FliesLikeABrickmahangu,  i have hoary on it now05:06
glickEarthen, where am i looking for all this?05:06
johnnyhow can i find out how much ram the video card has?05:06
apokryphoszojak: yah05:06
cfh_devzojak, pretty much.  There are other subtlelies05:06
modzeroread the box05:06
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johnnyi forgot..05:06
FliesLikeABrickmahangu, im testing breezy on my desktop and upgrading my laptop soon05:06
mahanguFliesLikeABrick, heh, try breezy and let me know if it works :P05:06
johnnyit's onboard05:06
johnnyit's not my computer..05:06
mahanguFliesLikeABrick, sure let me know then? :)05:06
FliesLikeABrickmahangu,  my friend uses it and it works fine05:06
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johnnyi know how much my laptop has :)05:06
johnnymy gentoo laptop..05:06
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weobi bet that error happened cuz i installed kubuntu desktop05:06
modzerojohnny go to your bios it would tell you as its most likely shared memory05:06
mahanguFliesLikeABrick, when you upgrade to breezy via apt-get dist-upgrade05:06
weobon top of ubuntu05:06
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mahanguhow does it work after that?05:06
mahangujust reboot is it?05:07
weobcuz firefox worked before with that page05:07
foxinesszojak if kde simple than gnome , i think you must use somthing else than ubuntu05:07
FliesLikeABrickmahangu,  idk, my friend seems to be fine with it05:07
VersedtooI installed ubuntu then the kubuntu desktop.05:07
Earthenglick:  well on mine it is under Applications->system tools->system monitor05:07
utnubuhey, if anyone knows iceman: please tell him that installation with "hotplug=off" does not work. It is an horror. I dont know how to finishthe install cleanly. Manually removing /etc/init.d/hotplug makes it a difficult to use system, otherwise kernel panics come.05:07
mister_robotomahangu: breezy on my laptop broke click-drag with the touchpad.  and hibernate/suspend still doesn't work05:07
niggpiehondje forgot I'm on wireless... no wired. Is there an alternative to apt-get?05:07
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Earthenglick: but i'm not in breezy05:07
mahangumister_roboto, whats the lappy05:07
hondjeniggpie: it should be on the CD05:07
weobno errors poped up with firefox?05:07
Versedtoobut 90% of the time I run gnome05:07
weobor you probably changed the homepage05:07
mister_robotodell inspiron 820005:07
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johnnyi have the 8600.. runs great :)05:08
mister_robotomahangu: click-drag worked in hoary05:08
weobfirefox works - that file no longer exists for some reason05:08
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mister_robotomahangu: i checked the bug page, it's already there05:08
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mahanguah05:08
axeusAh crap: What would I open a .7z file with?05:08
johnnyargh.. there's definitely a noticable repaint here..05:08
mahanguill stay away then fornow05:08
axeusIt's some sort of compressed file.05:08
johnnyaxeus, 7zip05:08
mahanguaxeus, 7zip05:08
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mahangujohnny, sorry, damn lag :)05:08
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EnsignRedshirtHello, world.05:09
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johnnyworld hello05:09
glickEarthen, yah it seems to spike05:09
EnsignRedshirt...coming to you live from a shiny new breezy install...05:09
johnnysame here ..05:09
niggpiehondje how would I go about installing it from CD? sorry i'm quite the noob05:09
stevenjme to, breezy05:09
johnnyniggpie, it should be automatic05:09
modzerohow is breezy? i havent moved yet from 5.0405:09
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johnnyunless you removed it from your sources.list05:10
latinothe livecd is very ice candy05:10
Entrancedmodzero, it Pwnz05:10
szothwanting to share my already downloaded iso via bittorrent I went to download breezy and found a 404 error on http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/05:10
cfh_devI see the update picking up several xwindows driver packages that I don't use.  Can I safely remove them without breaking something?05:10
szothwho might I report that too05:10
naliothmodzero: nothing to get in a hurry over, this isnt windows05:10
modzeroyep05:10
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: I've only have about 85 seconds of experience with breezy, but so far, so good.05:10
disasmare the packages the same on different servers? I find fr is smoking fast and us is usually generally slow05:10
Cosinehey i don't have sound, lspci shows an ensoniq device but i'm using a creative sound card, any ideas?05:10
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modzerodo they have their own servers yet? lol05:10
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stevenjwhat repo is msttcorefonts and nvidia driver from?05:10
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nalioth!info msttcorefonts05:11
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB05:11
luicoming back to the discussion like 50 lines up, I see kde with a lot of great features gnome should have but also with a little less elegance and a little "eye filler"05:11
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naliothstevenj: the great multiverse05:11
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johnnystupid gnome copy paste...05:11
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felonanyone use xchat with ubuntu?05:11
felonor bitchx?05:11
johnnyif you close the app you copied from..05:11
meepushello05:11
Earthenglick: ok now click on Processes tab and see what it is05:11
modzeroummm05:11
johnnyi'm using xchat right now05:11
weobxchat05:11
niggpiesoo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx should source it right from CD before trying the web?05:11
luilatino, how many MB have the live cd?05:11
modzeroxchat here05:11
stevenjnalioth, I see...well I was kinda nervous about enabling that one because backports or something is mixed in with it05:11
weobi use xchat for irc  its the only thing i use05:11
johnnyniggpie, yes05:12
cfh_devCosine, are you using alsa?05:12
felonk05:12
felonill get it05:12
niggpie:O that's effing handy!05:12
naliothstevenj: good thinking05:12
cfh_devfelon, I'm using xchat05:12
luii'm using xchat05:12
latinolui: for x86? hold on05:12
felonworks well?05:12
niggpiebrb =)05:12
modzeroshould be installed with ubuntu unless you did a custom05:12
meepusI'm new to linux, and ubuntu in general, and I'm running the livecd right now... is it possible for me to install ubuntu on my unpartitioned HDD space from the livecd?05:12
nicholas_pauli"M using Xchat :)05:12
johnnyhmm.. ubuntu doesn't seem to come with a media player..05:12
cfh_devfelon, yep05:12
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weobyes it does05:12
luilatino, yes please, thanks05:12
eazel7hi ppl05:12
weobkafeine i think05:12
budluva_how much space do i need to have for /var? i have my own partition for /var (11gb) and only 900mb used, just wondering if its too late to resize that partition05:12
Earthenglick: you may need to set update interval to 1 second05:12
robotgeekjohnny: totem05:12
stevenjnalioth, I guess I could just take out the backports part and enable just multi?05:12
nicholas_pauljohnny - what kind of media you wanna play?05:12
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weobor totem05:13
johnnytotem is kinda lame to use05:13
johnnyfor that05:13
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weoboh well install vlc05:13
_TemujinIs it just me... Or is bittorrent way slower than azureus?05:13
johnnyi wonder if ubuntu will switch to banshee05:13
luimeepus, I think not05:13
weobapt-get install vlc05:13
weobthat easy05:13
modzerototem and mplayer or xmms and realplayer are easily obtainable05:13
robotgeekjohnny: totem-xine works well too05:13
weobwith sudo rather05:13
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szoththe download server is returning a 404 anyone know who I could report that to?05:13
latinoubuntu 628 kubuntu 64305:13
nicholas_pauljohnny- if you want to play mp3s, get beep-media-player05:13
cfh_dev_Temujin, azureus seems to eat up a lot of proc & mem for me05:13
johnnybanshee seems to have the new play05:13
meepusare the install cd isos bootable?05:13
johnnybootable yes05:13
WhyvasLTszoth, try jesus05:13
naliothstevenj: backports are not gonna be available for breezy for a few weeks05:13
meepusah good05:14
modzeroazureus is a mem hog , crappy java soft05:14
[Dexcel(n=Dexcel@pc-238-167-239-201.cm.vtr.net)] hi05:14
concept10Has anyone been able to watch the apple stream with any player (vlc,totem) etc05:14
Earthenglick: you can do that under edit-> preferences, then Processes tab and put it to 1 there05:14
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johnnyi can't wait til we get hardwar rendering05:14
modzerouse gnome bittorrent client if your running gnome its lighter05:14
_TemujinI didn't use the java version05:14
glickk05:14
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luiyes of course05:14
meepusWell, I'll be back soon hopefully then, with a fresh install of ubuntu :)  thanks!05:14
latinoszoth: it might reach the limit of request (aka too many ppl trying at once)05:14
modzeroazureus is java based05:14
modzerohave to have it05:14
szothno the directory layout is just wrong05:14
meepusazureus is huge by the way.05:14
meepusthe java is a huge ram hog.05:14
_Temujinbut it has pretty pictures!05:14
_Temujin:)05:14
modzeroyeah05:14
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modzeronice frog05:15
meepusThe frog is cute though, I'll admit05:15
stevenjnalioth, I know, but for some reason its included in the default sources list, in the same line as multiuniverse...thats what I am confused about05:15
szothso the links on the download page are pointing to 404 errors05:15
cfh_devmmm... frogs...05:15
naliothstevenj: really? there may be hope05:15
johnnyso .. you guys checked out banshee yet?05:15
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robotgeekjohnny: what's banshee?05:15
modzerotemujin do you use gnome?05:15
stevenjstevenj, I dont know...I think Windows made me anal05:15
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johnnythe new premier media player05:15
latinobanshee is a multiplayer in halo 205:15
johnnymusic player*05:15
TylerDurdenhow can i get gdesklets?05:15
budluva_can i resize a partition after install?05:15
robotgeekjohnny: better than amarok?05:15
latinois a vehicle* :P05:16
johnnyamarok is kde!05:16
johnnyerr qt05:16
_Temujinyeah... As of today with ubuntu05:16
meepusyou can resize a partition with qtparted05:16
johnnyi meant for gnome :)05:16
meepusI just did that :D05:16
_Temujinbreezy gnome05:16
EnsignRedshirtHmmm.... where's my favorite graphics diagnostics tool--tuxracer?05:16
robotgeekjohnny: okay with me :)05:16
budluva_meepus, what about if its got data? ie /var is /hdc2 only using 900 meg of 11gb05:16
johnnyrobotgeek, well check it out sometime05:16
latinoszoth: 404 means the page doesn't exit.05:16
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johnnyit's still new tho05:16
meepusyou can resize it if you've got data05:16
johnnybut i bet it will be default someday05:16
meepusjust be sure you've defragged it already05:16
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latinoit really exist but too many ppl is askin it so appears that doesn't exist05:17
modzerotry using the gnome bittorrent client  temujin its lighter with less options as azurues but there is no java dep and its pretty damm stable05:17
meepusqtparted won't let you resize it below it's minimum size05:17
TylerDurdenhow can i get gdesklets?05:17
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cfh_devmeepus, how can I defrag a reiserfs drive?05:17
Earthenanyone know of a howto for sharing a printer from one linux box to another05:17
budluva_meepus, whats a good defrag app for ubuntu?05:17
modzerolol bud05:17
_Temujinit seems to download much slower05:17
mister_robotoTylerDurden: first link when i google it: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/       might ask google next time ;)05:17
meepusI don't know anything about reiserfs drives05:17
scottDoes Rhythmbox play mp3s?   Because it keeps telling me something about it cant stream them or something like that05:17
konra`how does one access the restricted repositories (for mp3 libs and such) from breezy?05:17
johnnyscott, you need the codecs05:17
meepusI used qtparted in ubuntu05:17
meepusthere's one included05:17
meepuscalled GParted05:17
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meepuswhich is the gnome partition editor05:17
budluva_qtparted will defrag drives?05:17
robotgeekjohnny: i am on an old machine, so i prefer the xine engine05:17
luican I install a dock like the objectdock of stardock?05:17
meepusbut for me, it didn't work05:17
_Temujinmaybe it's just the torrent05:17
stevenjhas anyone tried 686 kernel in breezy yet?05:17
meepusoh, defrag?05:18
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modzeronah temujin it runs fine ive run it on same torrents05:18
naliothbudluva_: no it will not05:18
meepusdepends05:18
johnnyi'm appreciating gstramer arch05:18
latino686 kernel??05:18
crazygamercan someone help me with the su account...I want to enable it just because that's what I'm used to, but it said that all the KDE apps would break05:18
scottjohnny:  Where/How?05:18
theineSteveA, i'm running it05:18
naliothubotu: tell crazygamer about root05:18
meepusif you're trying to defrag a windows partition05:18
johnnyuncomment universe05:18
meepusyou're going to want to do that in windows05:18
johnnyin the sources.list05:18
crazygamerany advice?05:18
cfh_devcrazygamer, you should be using sudo05:18
meepusand by windows I mean NTFS05:18
stevenjlatino, yes 68605:18
naliothcrazygamer: use 'kdesu' in kde05:18
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_Temujincan it restart torrents after reboots?05:18
weobyes05:18
_Temujinautomatically?05:18
modzerodo not take the name of root in vain05:18
konra`lol05:18
jabraanyone know about a new ubuntuguide? (someone working on it, do they need help etc)05:18
johnnyi use use the regular btdownloadgui.py05:18
crazygameri just find sudo kind of a pain05:18
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theinestevenj, i'm running the 686 kernel05:18
weobjust run the program that was sharing it -05:18
modzeroyeah you can resume torrents05:18
weobi prefer azureus05:18
robotgeekjabra: try #ubuntu-doc05:19
konra`jabra, usually ubuntuguide is disapproved of in here05:19
konra`:p05:19
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stevenjtheine, ok thanks..guess I'll try it05:19
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jabrakonra`: o of course05:19
robotgeekjohnny: never mind, i misunderstood05:19
latinoazureus rocks  (besides it's the only torrent client I've ever used :P )05:19
luiis there a dock like objectdock of stardock for linux?05:19
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mister_robotocrazygamer: if you're asking, you probably don't want to be doing it.   you could always "sudo su -" if you WANT to05:19
modzeroubuntuguide is not the way to go05:19
Toma-or sudo -s05:19
robotgeeklatino: screen + ncurses bittorrent :)05:19
wilhelmcan anyone tell me what plugin to be install to be able to play mp3's on ubuntu? thanks05:20
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wilhelmcan anyone tell me what plugin to be install to be able to play mp3's on ubuntu? thanks05:20
Toma-or ln -s /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/! or something stupid like that05:20
modzeroncurses bt lol rock05:20
meepususe amarok to play MP3s in ubuntu05:20
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theinewilhelm, gstreamer0.8-mad05:20
meepusgo to the package manager and search it out05:20
naliothrobotgeek: not "gnu screen" + ncurses bittorrent?05:20
meepus:-X05:20
crazygamerso you guys just suggest sticking with sudo05:20
naliothrobotgeek: :)05:20
latino:agrees with meepus. amarok rok05:20
Toma-crazygamer: saves u doing stupid things05:20
meepusamarok ftw05:20
robotgeeknalioth: :)05:20
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naliothubotu: tell wilhelm about mp305:20
mister_robotoToma: that is,   sudo ln -s ...    ;)05:20
crazygamerToma-: ok lol05:21
ubuntuguyanyone: I'm trying to run configure for libquicktime, I installed gcc, but configure states the compiler cannot create executables...?05:21
wilhelmmeepus the amarok?05:21
Toma-thanks mister_roboto05:21
EnsignRedshirtBasic question (I've been using warty for the last year)... I need to install nvidia-glx myself, right?  I have an nvidia card.05:21
meepusanyway, I have to get out of my livecd and go find the torrent for the breezy badger install05:21
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meepusadieu!05:21
johnnyplaying mp3s varies dependong in the programs you use05:21
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johnnysome use different libraries05:21
latino!mp305:21
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:21
weobeasy to do05:21
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indyHiiiiiiiii...............05:21
cafuego_Hi! When is breezy warthog coming out?05:21
theineubuntuguy, install the build-essentials package05:21
latinoholaaaa indy05:21
modzerolol05:22
ubuntuguytheine: I'll try that05:22
meffhi all, i have a quick question i hope i can get help with.. i have a IT812x secondary pata controller, and i booted up the breezy cd and it does not find it.. i know this driver was in 2.6.13 -- if i install breezy, is there a 2.6.13 update available?05:22
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modzeroright after hoary gbadger05:22
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FliesLikeABrickhow much space does a rand new linux install take up?05:22
FliesLikeABrickbrand*05:22
johnnyFliesLikeABrick, depends on which distro05:22
MadpilotGoing for the dist-upgrade to Breezy... wish me luck... (deep breath...) ;)05:22
FliesLikeABrickubuntur hoary or breezy05:22
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: A base full ubuntu 5.10 install uses about 2 GB05:22
modzerodepends flieslike, on install you can do a full ubuntu and use about 3.4 gb i think05:22
johnnyroot@ubuntu:~# df -h05:22
johnnyFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on05:22
johnny/dev/hda1             8.8G  1.7G  7.2G  19% /05:22
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theinecafuego, what??05:22
naliothjohnny: please do not paste in here05:22
latinobanshee, warthog? who came out with does names? is there any spectre, pelican or gosht?05:23
concept10Anyone of you guys been successful installing quicktime 7 with crossover office?05:23
cafuego_theine: what what?05:23
modzerolol05:23
modzerospectre toad05:23
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meffi'd really appreciate it if someone can tell me whether there is a 2.6.13 update available in breezy...05:23
johnnyi wasn't going to paste anything above 5 lines... i use pastebin for that05:23
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: a base server install about 100Mb, I think.05:23
ubuntuguytheine: that worked, thank you!05:24
naliothmeff: no there is not05:24
cafuego_meff: There is not. 2.6.12-9 is teh latest.05:24
theineubuntuguy, you're welcome05:24
niggpiejohnny : apt-get didn't even attempt to read from either of my rom drives.. Am I doing something wrong? "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx05:24
johnnyniggpie, check your sources.list .. make sure the cd is listed05:24
felonok05:24
meffcafuego_: how would i get my IT812x controller to work then? do i have to wait till the next release?05:24
cafuego_johnny: You should really sue pastebin for anything more than two lines05:24
feloni got ubuntu installed05:24
naliothjohnny: 2 lines is polite (any more than that and some ops get itchy05:24
anthonyI have installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package, which is said to support Mobility Radeon 9000 (my laptop video card), after I rebooted how come I still can't change my resolution to 1024x768? When ever I do the screen just went blank. I'm now stuck now 1400x1050 (my max res) and I want to lower it 'cause it slows down a bunch and text are hard to read.05:24
latinonice move: felon :D05:24
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FliesLikeABrickhow can i open the hoary equivalent of a "root terminal" in breezy?05:25
cafuego_meff: Does 2.6.12 not support it *at all* ?05:25
johnnyFliesLikeABrick, open up a terminal and sudo05:25
johnnymeff, compile your own kernel i guess05:25
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: start a terminal, run 'sudo -s'05:25
meffcafuego_: correct. driver was merged into kernel on 2.6.1305:25
johnnyor look to see if there is ubuntu package05:25
naliothFliesLikeABrick: sudo -s05:25
niggpieanthony!!! having same problem :(05:25
johnnyelsewhere05:25
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johnnyie: not in any of the regular ubuntu repo05:25
modzeroedit x.org.conf05:25
cafuego_meff: Then I'm afraid you'll need a custom compiled kernel.05:25
anthonyniggpie: Which brand and model of laptop do you have?05:25
FliesLikeABrickthank you05:25
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niggpiejohnny.. where do i find the sources list?05:25
EnsignRedshirtIf I have an nvidia graphics card, is the only thing I need to do (after installing breezy) is to install nvidia-glx?  Or will I have to do some additional configuration?05:25
johnnysomebody might have already made one .. if not, go build the kernel yourself05:25
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niggpieanthony.. desktop 9200SE, but exact same symptom05:26
fernandohi all05:26
modzeroensign05:26
meffcafuego_: this i can do. does ubuntu provide patchsets and configs that i could use against 2.6.13 by any chance?05:26
johnnybuilding kernels is not very hard05:26
modzeroyou need to edit your xorg.conf05:26
johnnycat /proc/config ?05:26
fernando5.10 don't work with vesafb ? bootsplash problem?05:26
anthonyniggpie: Did it worked okay back in 5.04?05:26
niggpieyeah 5.04 was fine05:26
guru54anyone know a mirror that has a azureus package for ubuntu 5.10?05:26
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EppuEnsignRedshirt: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:26
modzeroreal simple read the readme on nvidia site. or google search nvidia linux install. but dont do the install. just the xorg.conf05:26
johnnyoh.. there's no /proc/config05:26
_Temujindoes "apt-get upgrade" refresh the databases and offer to upgrade packages to newer versions?05:27
anthonyniggpie: Have you tried the official driver from ATI?05:27
_Temujin!tell me about apt-get05:27
modzeroits a package manger its fast its good.05:27
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: Or you could add a launcher that runs 'gksudo gnome-terminal' and call it 'Root Terminal'05:27
niggpieunfortunately, I've never installed/upgraded a linux driver.. so i'm out to lunch there =/05:27
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FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  already did :-p05:27
theinejohnny, look in /boot05:27
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: OK.  But is that in addtion to, or instead of, the command Eppu gave?05:27
meffcafuego_: and if not, does kernel-package work in ubuntu like in debian?05:28
modzeroensign do this.....05:28
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TylerDurdenubotu tell tylerdurden about repositories05:28
weobso after i install the win32codecs - how do i view a wmv ?05:28
theinejohnny, ls /boot/config-`uname -r`05:28
cafuego_meff: I think they don't; they DO provide a patch set for an already-ubuntu kernel, but that won't necessarily work on a vanilla kernel. make-kpkg works fine, though.05:28
OrbordeThe Ubuntu BitTorrent seems to be majorly seeded...05:28
mister_roboto_Temujin: "apt-get update" refreshes your database05:28
anthonyQt3 is for KDE right?05:28
latinotheine I think you need css05:28
sbalneavubotu: info05:28
meffcafuego_: great. does ubuntu use any special kernel features that would not be in vanilla then?05:29
theinelatino, what's css?05:29
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EppuEnsignRedshirt: You do not need to modify xorg.conf if you use the nvidia-glx-config05:29
calci386 cd install iso is really well seeded that is for sure ;)05:29
calc2515 seeds05:29
cafuego_meff: Yep. The main one is breezy is usplash (bootup progress bar)05:29
weobgot it to work with mplayer -05:29
FliesLikeABrickare the breezy backports broken right now?05:29
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meffcafuego_: so i guess building off vanilla 2.6.13 would require some patching eh.. hmph..05:29
latino 'css' is (#1) http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb, and (#2) dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb, and (#3) css-amd64: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_amd64.deb05:29
cafuego_meff: I'm not sure how extensively the kernel is patched for restricted-modules (nvidia, ati etc) support.05:29
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theinelatino, i see, but why are you telling me this?05:30
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modzeroopen a terminal and sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx    . then sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     go to the section where it says load dri and add a # infront of it  if load glx isnt there add it05:30
_TemujinI was confudsing update and upgrade05:30
cafuego_css is buioldable locally using the little script that comes with libdvdread3.05:30
keffyndback (damn internet link)05:30
meffcafuego_: true. crap.. i guess i'll have to wait till a 2.6.13 comes out on breezy -- or.. will one ever? ..05:30
keffyndanyone here got a Audigy 4 Pro ?05:30
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cafuego_modzero: nvidia-glx comes with a script to automate that step too :-)05:31
latinotheine: omg, my bad that was meant to weob05:31
latinosorry05:31
_Temujindist-upgrade seems abit scary05:31
modzerogot an audigy 205:31
theinemeff, what's the kernel module you need actually called?05:31
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: Note that HT is disabled in the smp kernel.05:31
theinternis there a way to get back 'right click'->'Open Terminal' in breezy ?05:31
theinelatino, no worries...05:31
keffyndmodzero does that Audigy 2 have an external or live drive thing?05:31
FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  i'm not using HT05:31
latinothanks05:31
modzeroeither way05:31
mefftheine: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IT821X specifically..05:31
nalioththeintern: install "nautilus-open-terminal"05:31
FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  using dual pentium 3s with dual flatscreens05:31
foxgamerso, like gnome >kde. worth it? better? worse? able to go back? :)05:31
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: I got nvidia-glx, and I ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", which is what Eppu, and the package comments, say to do.05:31
modzeroits a pcmcia keff05:31
cafuego_meff: If their update policy is the same as debian, then no.05:31
dabaRtheintern: there is a way to do anything changewise in open source software.05:31
modzerofor my laptop05:31
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: ah ok :-)05:31
keffyndmodzero ah ok05:31
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FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  my prized possession :P05:32
naliothfoxgamer: install xubuntu-desktop so you'll really have something to ponder05:32
theinterndabaR, not when i dont have time to do it05:32
keffyndI cant get the darn line in to work here, and it is driving me insane!05:32
cafuego_meff: Mind you, that does _not_ mean you wouldn't be able to run the 2.6.13 kernel from Dapper Drake ;-)05:32
theinternthank you nalioth05:32
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disasmmeff: compiling a kernel isn't that difficult05:32
jedediahkeffynd: FWIW I think they sell an external unit if a person needs it. USB2 Iirc.05:32
foxgamernalioth: xubuntu-desktop? a new one on me. <sighs>05:32
meffsigh.. i guess everyone with an asus board w/ onboard IT chipsets will have to wait :x05:32
john__how can i get multimedia to play inside of firefox?05:32
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: Like my dual P2 without any screens whatsoever? ;-)05:32
naliothfoxgamer: latest ubuntu goodness. an xfce4 based ubuntu05:33
weobits also you got to edit the xorg.config file05:33
dabaRtheintern: oh, you meant to ask, how can I get back right click open a terminal in breezy, I get it. :P. Well, have not upgraded yet, so I do not know yet. search the forums, or the wiki.05:33
FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  i have 3 dual p3 rackmount servers that just sit places and serve stuff05:33
johnnyhmm.. currently you can use mozplugger.. but it will best in the long run05:33
john__i cant get totem to work, just doesn't work, cant get mozilla-mplayer to load, and i installed MediaPlayerConnectivity but it crashes firefos05:33
meffdisasm: i know i have been for years.. but if i build my own it'll break all the driver pkgs and i'll have to hunt down ubuntu-specific patches.05:33
johnnyto use the embeeded totem05:33
FliesLikeABrickcafuego, http://ww2.u13.net/dozer/05:33
FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  running debian05:33
ubuntuguyanyone: I'm trying to compile libquicktime and it won't link complaining about `inflate' and other missing symbols05:33
disasmnalioth: xfce4 based... yeah!!! no more gnome!!!05:33
modzeroi run an ftp server off ubuntu its stable as mofo05:33
johnnyi doubt you'll break the drive packages ..05:33
johnnydriver*05:33
foxgamernalioth: and I can use this with breezy?05:33
frank23john__: mozillaplayerconnectivity crashes firefox???? I use it all the time05:33
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cafuego_FliesLikeABrick: Mine is a pretty full tower '97 model Debian Sarge running beast (in a shed at the in-laws)05:33
theinterndabaR, thank you for the concern but someone else has already surpassed your usefulness05:33
disasmmeff: ah...05:33
johnnylol theintern05:34
FliesLikeABrickcafuego,  my main server is a lian-li pc76 full tower with 17 HDs and debian :P05:34
john__frank23, i used to05:34
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: ... but looking at xorg.cong, "load dri" is not commented out.05:34
FliesLikeABrickcafuego, 2.4ghz beast with lotsa SCSI05:34
john__frank23, how can i remove the totem mozilla plugin?05:34
cafuego_the production box is an athlonxp at a facility (where ubotu runs)05:34
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FliesLikeABricki have yet to start playing with new amd chips05:34
FliesLikeABrickno money05:34
modzeroneed to comment it out ensign05:34
modzerojust add an # in front of it05:35
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john__How can I remove the totem mozilla plugin?05:35
disasmi'm just glad i found out I can get packages off of carroll at psu once i auth the vpn, i don't have to wait 2 hours for dist-upgrade05:35
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frank23john__: I don't know. It probably is somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox05:35
nomasteryoda|wjohn__, did you try synaptic?05:35
cafuego_WinZ: I'll thank you to NOT do that.05:35
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TylerDurdeni wanna download something off apt-get but it says no install candidate found..05:35
BROKEN_LADDERthis may sound trite, but ubuntu needs to come with a default pretty desktop instead of ugly reds and browns.05:35
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meffhell, even fc4 had support for this chipset.. lol.. i guess i'll have to wait another half year.. *tosses cd in trash* *sighs*05:36
john__nomasteryoda, its in the totem packages05:36
jedediahBROKEN_LADDER: That's trite.05:36
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john__nomasteryoda, i can't figure out how to remove just the plugin05:36
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: the brown distinguishes it and is "earthy", from which Ubuntu is inspired.05:36
BROKEN_LADDERjedediah yeah, but the average lay user wants something inviting, like blue.05:36
cafuego_meff: Is the it* the only controller the mobo has?05:36
BROKEN_LADDERcrimsun i know.05:36
TylerDurdenhow do i install something that says no install candidate found?05:36
jedediahBROKEN_LADDER: Are you hinting at kubuntu?05:36
BROKEN_LADDERcrimsun the average user doesn't care.05:36
meffcafuego_: no but my ICH7 pata is full and i have disks on the ITE chipset.05:36
BROKEN_LADDERi dunno.05:36
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: we'll have something different in 6.04.05:36
nomasteryoda|wjohn__, you can reassociate it with say the mplayer plugin05:36
BROKEN_LADDERi've never used kubuntu.  i use ubuntu with kde.05:36
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cafuego_TylerDurden: "not" until it's fixed, usually.05:36
nomasteryoda|wat least05:36
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latinoBROKEN_LADDER: that's why I use kubuntu05:37
TylerDurdencafuego, what do u mean?05:37
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: OK.  It looks like the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" command only changes the driver from "nv" to "nvidia".05:37
jedediahBROKEN_LADDER: If you install kubuntu, its all a pretty blue05:37
BROKEN_LADDERcrimsun nifty.  i read the interview with that dude who flew in the last soyuz or whatever.  pretty cool.05:37
cafuego_TylerDurden: or by enabling the universe/multiverse repositories.05:37
modzerothats good ensing05:37
john__nomasteryoda, Ok, MediaPlayerConnectivity crashes only when totem is installed05:37
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BROKEN_LADDERjedediah oh neat.  i've already changed my settings but that's good to know.05:37
modzeronow you need to comment out load dri and add load glx if it isnt there already05:37
john__How can I stop mozilla from trying to load it?05:37
TylerDurdencafuego, how do i add extra repos? the list i added r messed up cuz it gives me a buncnh of errors when i try to download something05:37
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: Ubuntu + KDE is Kubuntu...05:37
Bicchihow can i get gnome to change the status of the num-lock key05:37
EppuEnsignRedshirt: It shouldn't matter. The Load "dri" can stay there, it is ignored when using the nvidia driver.05:37
cafuego_BROKEN_LADDER: art.ubuntu.com - lots of toys05:37
XenguyI just upgraded to Breezy - have there been any reports of menu fonts losing their antialias?  I'm not totally sure, but I think my fonts look rougher than before :-/05:37
nomasteryoda|wjohn__, why not just remove totem totally?05:37
latinoI never get the swing with gnome. kde lokks better. fluxbox is faster05:37
nomasteryoda|wand rely on mplayer05:37
frank23john__: stop mozilla from trying to load what?05:37
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nomasteryoda|wtotem plugin frank2305:38
BROKEN_LADDERcafuego oh sweet!05:38
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john__frank23, totem plugin05:38
cafuego_BROKEN_LADDER: Lots of pretty backgrounds.05:38
john__nomasteryoda, because i like totem05:38
nomasteryoda|wah05:38
Meepusisn't totem just for movies05:38
TylerDurdencafuego, so how do i download?05:38
theinemeff, still there?05:38
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EnsignRedshirtRestarting X... I'll be back.05:38
modzerohave a question. im not in any rush to get breezy, but does anyone run cedega on it?05:38
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bimberiBROKEN_LADDER: go to http://fridge.ubuntu.com, and add your vote to the poll on the LHS05:38
modzerook esnign05:38
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bimberi:)05:38
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modzeroensign rather05:38
frank23john__: look in /home/frank/.mozilla/plugins05:39
modzerohope he didnt blotch that lol05:39
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frank23john__: and delete the plugin?05:39
_TemujinI need to taint my kernel... How do I get the source tree for 2.6.12?05:39
modzerono cedega users? without a war about how wrong they are)05:39
BROKEN_LADDERprague looks so amazing.05:39
frank23_Temujin: you can get it from synaptic05:39
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_TemujinI shows up to 1105:39
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disasmmodzero: i tried to, and it didn't work very well, but then again, I had the same problem with hoary (it's in a chroot with amd64)05:39
cafuego__Temujin: via synaptic & search05:39
modzero??05:40
meepusmodzero: what do you wanna know about it05:40
meepusif it works?05:40
frank23modzero: I played warcraft 3 with cedega in breezy05:40
_FR0D0i have probel configuring an us-international keayboard, the dead keys don't work anymore (the were fine in 5.4,  broke in 5.10) any help?05:40
johnnyi played warcraft3 with regular wine05:40
modzeroyeah ive got war3 runnin on hoary05:40
_FR0D0s/probel/problem/05:40
johnnyyou don't need cedega05:40
cafuego__FR0D0: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard05:40
modzerocouldnt get hitman contracts or vice city to run well with hoary though05:41
modzeroshitty framerate05:41
_FR0D0cafuego_, done that, didn't work05:41
meepusmod: what kinda video card do you use05:41
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modzero560005:41
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meepusthat's odd05:41
meepusyou should be fine05:41
BROKEN_LADDERthis is a good ubuntu background, because it's a pretty shade of "earthy" color. http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-Simple_Human_1600x1200.png05:41
meepusyou make sure you have updated drivers?05:41
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modzeroyeah had issues as i had updated from a 520005:42
cafuego__FR0D0: Odd. Did you logout and log back in?05:42
anthonyWhat's the command for restarting X?05:42
meepusbroken_ladder: that looks like a ubuntu play off the OSX Aqua wallpaper05:42
modzerocleared up with new driver release and rm nvidia packages05:42
haseldenanthony: you can ctrl alt backspace05:42
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meepuswhich isn't to say it's unattractive05:42
anthonyhaselden: Thank you.05:42
fernandoanyone with openGL performance poor after update? (VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller)05:42
meepusjust a comment.05:42
modzerokotr even runs pretty good just those two games05:42
aztekso i bought a wifi US Robotics PC Card that has native Linux driver support, but the driver doesn't work with wpa_supplicant. can anyone recommend a diff. way to use WPA05:42
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meepusvice city is a terrible port anyway mod05:42
cafuego_BROKEN_LADDER: http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-DawnOfUbuntu_1600x1200.png  (The one I use)05:42
modzeroport?05:43
meepusi couldn't tell you about hitman05:43
meepusyeah05:43
meepusrockstar basically takes the xbox version of their latest GTA game05:43
modzerogta3 rns good just not vice05:43
meepusand then makes a PC port of it05:43
jrattner1Yes its burning05:43
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meepusGTA3 was less system intensive05:43
modzerowish multitheft would run lol05:43
meepusand it was a bad port as well05:43
aztekactually i had more problems with GTA3 than Vice City05:43
modzeroreally? what vid card?05:43
meepusI couldn't get GTA3 to run under XP05:44
modzerolol05:44
meepusbut I was using a geforce MX440 at the time05:44
aztekthere was a patch for XP for Gta305:44
modzeroewww. 32 or 64mb?05:44
meepusah, I hadn't any patch05:44
meepus6405:44
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modzerohad one of those bastards once05:44
bytefooWOW05:44
bytefoothat is so my new wallkpaper05:44
bytefoo:|05:44
meepusit should've run it, technically05:44
meepusand it did05:44
meepusit just failed to display textures on ANYTHING but people05:45
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modzeroensign did you get everything squared away?05:45
wolkihi!05:45
anthonySomebody in here was having problem with his/her ATI Radeon 9200SE not changing resolution after installing the fglrx driver, who was it? I have found a way to fix it.05:45
meepuswhich was just disgusting05:45
wolkican someone help me a little with grep?05:45
modzeroyeah gta3 runs on like a 450mhz with 32mb right?05:45
meepussupposedly05:45
meepushypothetically05:45
Toma-modzero: yep05:45
meepusin theory05:45
ubuntuguyanyone: I found libquicktime in synaptic package manager, how do I install the mplayer plugin for for firefox?05:45
meepus:P05:45
mister_robotowolki: just ask    (or man grep :)05:45
modzerowhat are you greppin for wolki05:46
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Toma-modzero: runs like a dog with no back legs tho.05:46
mike1lo05:46
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modzerowhat does toma?05:46
modzerogta 305:46
meepusgta305:46
Toma-gta3 on that hardware05:46
aztekLOL05:46
meepusyeah05:46
modzeroyeah05:46
anthonyubuntuguy: The package is "mozilla-mplayer".05:46
meepusI have a PS2 for that though05:46
EnsignRedshirtmodzero:  I think so.  The nvidia splash came up when I restarted X.  Now I'm adding universe and multiverse so I can find tuxracer and do some real diagnostics :)05:46
meepus;)05:46
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wolkimister_roboto:  i'm trying to match something with or (meaning |) ... how do i tell it not to interpret it not as a pipe?05:46
meepusmodchip and HDLoader FTW05:46
modzerook ensign quick test05:46
mike1Question? if I upgrade to Breezy is my wireless card gonna crap out?  DWL-520 rev e105:46
modzerogo to your terminal05:46
wolkiand' im reading the man page already05:46
wolki^^;;;05:47
Toma-mike1: does it use ndiswrapper?05:47
cafuego_EnsignRedshirt: You'll want Option "NoLogo" "true" in the xorg cofig file then.05:47
modzeroand type            glxgears05:47
mike1no firmware05:47
poningrulots of people05:47
modzerowell get rid of the logo later05:47
anthonyubuntuguy: But if you get the win32codecs you'll be able to play QuickTime, Real, and Windows formatted videos.05:47
cafuego_mike1: Does it work OK now?05:47
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modzerogive it a sec and tell me what your fps are05:47
mister_robotowolki:  grep "|" <file>05:47
bytefoobtw, is it just me or are there no w32codecs in multiverse05:47
aztekso anyway05:47
mike1yes I had to follow a wiki that had me build from kernal headers, the card needs firmware loaded05:47
cafuego_modzero: That doesn't do anything.05:47
azteki bought a wifi US Robotics PC Card that has native Linux driver support, but the driver doesn't work with wpa_supplicant. can anyone recommend a diff. way to use WPA05:47
modzeroglxgears05:47
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: Actually, I tried glxgear earlier, but it never gave me fps.05:47
naliothubotu: tell bytefoo about w32codecs05:48
wolkimodzero: i want to grep the output of xprop for some lines, esp, WM_WINDOW_ROLE and WM_CLASS05:48
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modzerook ensign05:48
theblueHi all.05:48
robertjhrmm, back to nature is really nice05:48
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: It just runs...05:48
anthonyWhere can I find the logs for this IRC channel?05:48
Toma-you shouldnt use glxgears for benchmarking.... just run glxinfo and see if the drivers pop up05:48
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bytefoonalioth, i thought so!05:48
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ubuntuguyanthony: I don't see mozilla-mplayer in synaptic... must I use apt-get?05:48
modzerotry going to your screensavers and find glmatrix05:48
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Toma-then test it with tuxracer :D05:48
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bytefooi already downloaded those but i couldnt remember if they were added to multiverse later on or not :O05:48
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theblueHappy Breezy, everyone.05:48
cafuego_run 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'05:48
anthonyubuntuguy: Have you enabled the multiverse and universe repositories?05:48
meepusstill downloading my Breezy installer cd :X05:48
modzerosetup the speed a bit and advanced should allow you to see fps05:48
EnsignRedshirtToma-: tuxracer was my true test...05:48
latinoubuntuguy: I used apt-get mozilla-firefox05:48
TylerDurdenubotu tell tylerdurden about repositories05:48
meepusbittorrent for the win05:48
Toma-hehe05:49
EnsignRedshirtToma:  but where is it?05:49
mike1Any guess?05:49
meepushttp://www.linuxtracker.org should be on the front page of ubuntu.com05:49
Toma-youd have to instal it05:49
ubuntuguyanthony: no, how do I enable them?05:49
meepustake the load off the servers :)05:49
cafuego_mike1: Is it any any chance an acx100?05:49
fernando2/j ubuntu-br05:49
_FR0D0cafuego_, yes 'm very frustated about this, been an spanish speaker i need my dead keys back05:49
fernandoops05:49
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modzeroensign you following me?05:50
mike1acx100?  it's a D-link DWL-520 rev E105:50
anethemadoh nalioth i cant seem to get any of this working at all05:50
wolkimister_roboto: i tried that... grep "WM_WINDOW_ROLE|WM_CLASS" matches nothing, but both alone do... maybe i need some sleep ^^;;05:50
cafuego__FR0D0: Hmmm. ot sure hw to...05:50
naliothanethema: it's in your choice of sensor package05:50
cafuego_mike1: acx100 would refer to the actual chip.05:50
anethemajust used lm-sensors05:50
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: I'm getting there...05:50
modzerok05:50
anthonyubuntuguy: Open up a Terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then press Enter. Enter your password as it prompts you, then a new text editor will open. Let me know when you get to the tex editor part.05:50
mike1Cafuego:  let me check (google)05:50
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anthonyBy the way, anybody know where can I find the logs for this IRC channel?05:51
aztekuh05:51
meepusI bet they're huge05:51
ubuntuguyanthony: ready05:51
modzeroyeah meeps when i added the 5600 had all kinds of bs with the via agp nvida and gart happenin had to wipe it all out05:51
meepus644 users?05:51
mister_robotowollki:egrep "(as|\|)" mytest05:51
cafuego_mike1: At worst you will need to build a driver for the new kernel.05:51
meepusawww05:51
meepusthat sucks mod05:51
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haseldenanthony: not sure if they keep logs? but you can enable logging in xchat05:51
meepusat least you're not running ATI05:51
cafuego_mike1: At best, it will "just work".05:51
meepusI have a radeo 9500 pro softmodded to 970005:52
modzeroat i quit05:52
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meepusradeon*05:52
modzerodun dun dunnnn05:52
anthonyhaselden: They do keep logs in this channel, I forgotted to book mark them but I've viewed them. Let me do some search myself see if I can find it, thanks anyway.05:52
ColonelKernelmeepus, thats quite an overclock, I hope you have a serious fan on that thing05:52
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: glmatrix looks fine... but will that really test the nvidia drivers?  "Gears (planetary)" seems to run pretty quick.05:52
haseldenanthony: sweet....if you find them, please let me know...that would be good to have05:52
meepusColonelKernel: not really, the hardware is identical05:52
ubuntuguyanthony: which lines do I uncomment?05:52
anthonyubuntuguy: Find the line it says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted". Do you see it?05:53
ColonelKernelmeepus, :/05:53
modzerowell esnign its running a gl screensaver and with nvidia generic drivers it would look like ass lol05:53
meepusgoogle it if you don't believe me :-P05:53
wolkimister_roboto: thanks! works now05:53
modzeronow what you need to do is grab tuxracer05:53
modzerogive it a spin. what kind of card do you have?05:53
BROKEN_LADDERwhy did so many people vote thumbs up for brown? jayzus.  i use the osx "water" background.05:53
AmaranthBROKEN_LADDER: I like brown.05:53
ogahey all05:53
modzerojesus shut up about the brown theme already. even windows users can find the theme settings and change it lol05:54
adiabaticBROKEN_LADDER: Nobody else uses brown backgrounds. Unfortunately, there's a reason why.05:54
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anthonyubuntuguy: Uncomment "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted" line and add the word "multiverse" at the end, with a space between "restricted" and "multiverse". Then save the source.list file and then exit the text editor.05:54
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ubuntuguyanthony: I read it05:54
ColonelKerneli got a really nice satellite pic of a moonrise over hurricane emily05:54
meepusColonelKernel, here, check this link out: http://www.vr-zone.com/Home/news175/news175.htm#281705:54
modzerosudo apt-get install tuxracer ..... ensign :)05:54
anthonyubuntuguy: Let me know after you have done the above.05:54
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cafuego_ColonelKernel: Or you could run 'xearth -root' ;-)05:54
FliesLikeABrickcrap guys, what was that sudo command again to put in a terminal to have it be a root terminal?05:55
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westyvwhow can i tell WHO is logging into my computer with ssh?05:55
modzerofinger05:55
cafuego_FliesLikeABrick:  gksudo gnome-terminal05:55
ColonelKernelum , no05:55
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FliesLikeABrickwestyvw,  command who?05:55
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westyvwwho wont tell you who if they are loggen in with ssh05:55
westyvw:(05:55
FliesLikeABrickitll say that they are on ptsx05:55
FliesLikeABrickas opposed to ttyx05:55
FliesLikeABrickwon't it?05:55
modzerofinger wont work?>05:55
westyvwfinger the address?05:56
westyvwnetstat doesnt give me a fingerable adderess05:56
BROKEN_LADDERadiabatic well said, my thermodynamics-loving friend.05:56
modzerofinger with no parameters. just finger05:56
westyvwfinger gives back me!05:56
anthonyubuntuguy: After you have done all that go to Synaptic again, it should update the package list by itself, input the search string "mozilla-mplayer" and tell me if you see it.05:56
modzeroyeah your logged on right lol05:56
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meepus/finger ftw05:56
modzerothanks meepus05:56
westyvwok ftw05:56
meepusyou're VERY welcome05:57
meepus:-X05:57
ogais there an easy way to do a fresh install of ubuntu on my box without distupting my win partition and without burning and reinstalling install cd?05:57
budluva_hrmm05:57
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budluva_anyone notice any bugs in breezy azureus?05:57
meepusoga, I am in the process of doing that right now05:57
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hemppai can't read my ntfs partitions from ubuntu. what options i need to add to fstab?05:57
Eppuwestyvw: who shows users logged in with ssh. They have a source address listed, instead of a X display number, for example05:57
ogahow do you do it?05:57
modzerono but i bet azureus has some bugs05:57
sterwillAnyone know of a fast midwest mirror with the final breezy?  I've been using umn.edu, but it's not fast.  tds.com is fast, but it's not current.05:58
meepusoga, without a cd, how would you plan on doing a fresh ubuntu install?05:58
oga(fairly new to linux)05:58
ubuntuguyanthony: OK... one sec05:58
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EnsignRedshirtHmmm... I enabled universe and multiverse, and did an update, and I now have a Warning window that says "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates <snip> The following signatures were bad <snip>"05:58
meepussterwill05:58
ogameepus i wasn't sure if you could.... sounds like it can't be done05:58
meepuswww.linuxtracker.org05:58
meepususe bittorrent05:58
sterwillNo, this is for the deb packages for upgrades.05:58
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meepusoga, you need the cd.  You can install it without disrupting your windows install by using unpartitioned space on the same drive05:58
ogai guess i'll just download, burn and re-install05:58
FliesLikeABrickwhenever i tell breezy to reboot the comp, it just shuts down.  any ideas?05:58
nderjmI keep getting errors with the universe and multiverse repositories also05:58
meepusor alternatively, a different drive05:59
ubuntuguyanthony: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:59
meepusyou can resize your windows partition using the ubuntu livecd05:59
bimberihemppa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:59
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talioshow can I tell apt-get to use a proxy?  can't seem to spot anything in the manpages05:59
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meepusto make room for a fresh ubuntu installation05:59
hemppa bimberi: thanks :)05:59
bimberihemppa: yw :)05:59
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aztekbah06:00
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anthonyubuntuguy: I'm pretty sure you uncommented the wrong line, go back to the Terminal, run "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" again.06:00
disasmoga: do you have the live cd?06:00
ogameepus... n/p06:00
ubuntuguyanthony: OK06:00
ogadisasm.... one of the old ones.... warty06:00
modzeroany good poker games for linux? lol06:00
meepusoga: warty would work06:00
meepusyou might want to run that, then use the package manager to grab qtparted06:01
disasmoga: you might be able to bootstrap it from the cd, get apt installed, and then apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy06:01
modzeroubuntu needs a net install like suse.06:01
alsyrhi everybody. i am new to ubuntu and i am having difficulty in installing it on an emachines desktop. has anybody got the same problem ? if so, how did you solve it ?06:01
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modzerothat would be sweet06:01
aztekDidn't 5.10 add a built in WPA tool??06:01
ColonelKernelalsyr, whats the install problem06:01
diemanaztek: you can use wpasupplicant, but i dont think they got a graphical thing going06:02
alsyrhi ColonelKernel, thanks for responding.06:02
Epputalios: you can export http_proxy=http://address:port/06:02
aztekno i can't use wpa_supplicant, not with my wifi card06:02
FliesLikeABrickyay i got my dual processors and dual flatscreens working on breezy06:02
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FliesLikeABrickprogress06:02
EnsignRedshirt\me discovers that tuxracer is now called planetpenguin-racer.06:02
taliosEppu, ah sweet06:02
zojakanyone have a bittorrent download link to the install cd for windows ?06:02
diemanaztek: oh06:02
modzerolol sorry ensign06:02
diemanaztek: well then you'lll be sol either way06:02
anthonyubuntuguy: Do you see this line in your sources.list file? "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse" And that line should be uncommented.06:02
diemanaztek: which card?06:02
meepuszojak: http://linuxtracker.org06:02
ColonelKernelis there any current socket 478 mobo that allows a dual processor?06:02
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meepusit's on there06:02
modzerohows it running for you?06:02
azteka US Robotics that uses a driver not supported by wpasupplicant06:03
diemanaztek: which brand of wireless chipset is it?06:03
meepuscurrently there are 1717 seeds :D06:03
westyvwany other ideas to tell whos logged in when they log in as ssh?06:03
diemanaztek: which driver?06:03
meepuswhich is making my download go much quicker06:03
FliesLikeABrickwestyvw,  who | grep pts06:03
alsyri have an emachines t6412. ubuntu installs without any problem. past the login screen, on the splash screen, X hangs completely and freezes the computer06:03
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EnsignRedshirtmodzero: If that question was for me... still waiting for the download.  I guess the repositories are pretty busy today :)06:03
diemanaztek: ie: will it eventually support all of the 'new' wireless extensions06:03
aztekhold i have to check06:03
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spackestok, so the other night I went from 5.04 to 5.10 with a dist-upgrade, but my question tonight is, can I go from like debian 3.1 to ubuntu 5.10?06:03
diemanaztek: is it a driverloader or ndiswrapper setup?06:04
westyvwno who will only reuturnb ME06:04
ColonelKernelmeepus, I am having problems with download bandwidth and azureus06:04
ogai've got about an 8GB partition.... how big should the swap / etc be?06:04
FliesLikeABrickk06:04
aztekit's a native linux driver06:04
total_assaultswap depends on amount on ram06:04
diemanaztek: thats nice at least06:04
haseldenoga: how much ram?06:04
westyvwssh log ins are not listed by who06:04
aztekyeah06:04
modzerogood deal. let me know ensign but id say your good now. if you want to get rid of that logo at startup its easily edited into your xorg.conf file06:04
meepuscolonelkernel: what kinda problems06:04
total_assaultusually its 1.5-2x the ram06:04
meepusnot enough bandwidth?06:04
ColonelKernelalsyr, you need to run memtest06:04
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ubuntukinghello all06:04
meepusI can't help you there ;)06:04
westyvwtrying to see if they are running processes with top06:04
meepuscall verizon and get fios06:04
azteki can never remember the name of it06:04
total_assaultmeepus: i wish i could06:05
westyvwbut then again that wont tell me cause they technically are faking bvia ssh06:05
haseldenwestyvw: ps -ef | grep ssh06:05
EnsignRedshirtmodzero: I don't mind the logo.  It comes and goes very quickly... much faster than it did in warty.06:05
alsyrok06:05
meepustotal_assault: me too -_-06:05
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westyvwq06:05
meepusthey want this thing called 'money'06:05
ColonelKernelmeepus, im having a hell of a time getting more than 40kB/s and im on 3mbps cable - even on the brezy torrent I only get 30-4006:05
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FliesLikeABrickColonelKernel,  see the topic ?06:05
meepusI'm getting 150 kbps on the breezy torrent right now06:05
JMSunseribreezy is freezing on boot when it tried to start up the hotplug subsystem06:05
total_assaultmeepus: their pricing is a little odd though jumps from $60-20006:05
niggpiejohnny.. alright I used apt-cdrom add to select the cdrom drive for apt-get.. although it's not locating xorg-driver-fglrx...06:05
meepushave you checked to see if azureus is throttling your bandwidth?06:05
westyvwhaselden  that gives me /usr/bin/sshd06:05
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ColonelKernelFliesLikeABrick, what does that have to do with bittorrent?06:06
FliesLikeABrickoh sorry ColonelKernel  didn't realize you were talking about torrents06:06
haseldendoes it tell you who's on it?06:06
FliesLikeABrickjust realized that06:06
theblueFliesLikeABrick: You have the best nick EVAR.06:06
meepustotal_assault: is that pricing range... or just, after a couple months, it jumps like that06:06
aztekah06:06
ColonelKerneltis cool06:06
aztekit uses the acx111 driver06:06
westyvwno cause the user is technically ssh06:06
FliesLikeABrickColonelKernel, i thought you were talking about apt like everyone else :P06:06
haseldenhmm06:06
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FliesLikeABrickthanks theblue  i've had it for years06:06
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total_assaultmeepus: no its $40 for a package around the speed of cable06:06
anthonyHow do you start a private chat with somebody?06:06
ColonelKernelwait a minute06:06
ColonelKernelI can use apt to upgrade?06:06
total_assaultmeepus: then 15/2 is $6006:06
thenukeanthony: /query nickname06:06
anthonythenuke: Thanks.06:06
westyvwi think i see a user06:06
meepustotal_assault: ah, gotcha06:06
JMSunseriim very pissed the gnome 2.12 live cd worked just fine and that is based on ubuntu06:06
total_assaultmeepus: and 30/4 is 20006:07
meepustotal_assault: so it's different package prices06:07
diemanaztek: is it acx100?06:07
theblueGnome 2.12?06:07
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theblueIt has a live CD?06:07
westyvwtrying to see who has changed files in home directory's06:07
tritiumJMSunseri, why is that bad?06:07
Tobathat sucked06:07
theblueAs in, a standalone live cd?06:07
ColonelKernelyeah gentoo doesnt even have gnome 2.12 ready to go yet - or gcc406:07
EnsignRedshirtI installed breezy on a brand new hard drive that I added to my computer.  The old drive, with warty, is still there.  Can I simply copy my evolution directory from my old home dir to my new home dir and expect it to work?06:07
total_assaultmepus: i think it jumps too much it should be $100-120 for the 30/4 cause i really want that top one :)06:07
JMSunseritritium, breezy lockes up on hotplug system start06:07
thenukeanthony: you can also do /msg nick message, if you want to send just one private message or so, although some irc-clients open up a query-window with that command too..06:07
theblueEnsignRedshirt: I don't see why not.06:07
modzerowesty just kill ssh and then secure your box. but i beleive ssh would be showing as a group06:07
aztekno it's acx11106:07
theblueEnsignRedshirt: Though I could be wrong.06:07
spackestso I just scp'd my breezy conf to a debian 3.1 box, can I apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade and switch to breezy?06:07
meepustotal_assault: there's no competition, so they can drive the price artificially high06:07
modzeroi dont enable it but i do run ftp with pureftpd06:08
westyvwmodzero i hear you06:08
meepustotal_assault: but I would much like the same :)06:08
westyvwmodzero but i have about a dozen users, this one was just acting veryy odd06:08
ColonelKernelmeepus, got any advice for me to improve my BT download speed in azureus?06:08
total_assaultmeepus: theres always ds306:08
mister_robotoColonelKernel: that's what I did06:08
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JMSunserinow my computer is useless cause it wont boot06:08
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meepusds3?06:08
westyvwi just realized that he is on dial up and thats why his stay is so long.06:09
total_assaultits a 55mbps connection for $2500 a mont06:09
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modzeroid help more but im not familiar with ssh :( ftp i can have virt users and groups can be blocked to directorys etc limited access etc.06:09
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meepuscolonelkernel: I asked before, did you check to see if azureus is throttling your downspeed?06:09
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FliesLikeABrick10gbps ftw06:09
Chinamanbreezy is great06:09
westyvwyeah i need to set up access by knowing the user , thats in the works06:09
dooglusI can't get postfix to work :(06:09
erikcorecan anyone help me install transcode on breezy?06:09
total_assaultwhat campus06:09
ColonelKernelmeepus, it isnt, im throttling my upspeed but that shouldnt make any difference06:09
erikcoremsg me if you can06:09
westyvwBTW thanks ubuntu folks06:09
FliesLikeABricktotal_assault,  RPI in troy,NY06:09
FliesLikeABrickwww.rpi.edu06:09
JMSunserican i disable hotplug before boot time?06:09
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meepuscolonelkernel: are you noticing it as a solid cap... does the number not exceed 40 kb/s, for instance?06:10
westyvwYou just helped work on a Redhat 7.3 box, LOL. Need to change that over soon...............................06:10
theblueI have an idea.06:10
BROKEN_LADDERi guess i can just go to bed and hope i've updated to breezy tomorrow.06:10
derfFliesLikeABrick: hah06:10
theblueLet's open up #ubuntu-newbies for people who are truly new to Ubuntu and Linux.06:10
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dooglusColonelKernel: is your port 6881 open?06:10
Chinamanw00t06:10
derfFliesLikeABrick: rpi has two OC3's, not an OC19206:10
modzeroport forwarding colonel?06:10
ColonelKernelmeepus, download is usually at 40, and will occasionally go as high as 6006:10
diemanaztek: hrm, im not even seeing people talk about it on the mailing list06:10
total_assaultwhat kind of sustained connection speeds you get i would think theres a terrible bottleneck on the server side06:10
FliesLikeABrickderf whats your source?06:10
dooglusand, ColonelKernel, throttling upspeed does make a difference.06:11
meepuswhat kind of router are you using?06:11
erikcoreanyone know anything about getting transcode working?  i'm dying here06:11
modzerocolonel the pretty dot next to the torreent is it green or yellow or blue?06:11
diemanat WEP on the ACX111 chipset.06:11
derfFliesLikeABrick: I graduated from there 2 years ago, and still know a bunch of people that work at the VCC06:11
ColonelKernelmeepus, linksys wrt54g with sveasoft firmware06:11
diemanack06:11
haseldenerikcore: see private message06:11
FliesLikeABrickah06:11
diemanaztek: you may want to think about another card if you really have to do WPA, like an atheros or something06:11
FliesLikeABrickderf i'm 99% sure it shares an OC192 with suny albany06:11
ColonelKernelok ill unthrottle the upstream and see if it works06:11
diemanaztek: or it sounds like driverloader may work06:11
derfFliesLikeABrick: yeah, I-206:11
FliesLikeABrickyes06:11
total_assaulti get this error trying to make ndiswrapper "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver \06:12
total_assault        NDISWRAPPER_VERSION=1.2rc1 \06:12
total_assault        EXTRA_VERSION= modules06:12
total_assaultmake[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found06:12
total_assaultmake[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic'06:12
diemanaztek: but then you're using windows drivers ;)06:12
derfFliesLikeABrick: but that won't get you anywhere06:12
total_assaultmake[2] : *** No rule to make target `Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver'.  Stop.06:12
total_assaultmake[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic'06:12
azteki'd rather do wpa than wep06:12
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jaramillois there a way to add "Open Terminal" to the right-click-desktop-menu ?06:12
modzerocolonel are you having nat errors?06:12
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dooglusColonelKernel: I was stuck it 10k down when I was throttling the up to 3k.  I stopped throttling and got 250Kb down06:12
naliothjaramillo: install nautilus-open-terminal06:12
FliesLikeABrickderf so are we on dual OC3 or OC192?06:12
aztekbut i can use a linksys and do ndis for now06:12
ColonelKerneljaramillo, yeah nautilus-open-terminal - I think you can apt-get it06:12
diemanaztek: yeah, i do wpa here now...06:12
total_assaultsrry i thought it would post as one line06:12
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tritiumtotal_assault, sudo apt-get install build-essential06:12
diemanaztek: heh06:12
jaramillowow, cool guys, thx ;D06:12
ColonelKerneldooglus, how long should it take for speed to improve?06:12
diemanaztek: some of the netgear cards are atheros06:12
total_assaulttritium: did06:12
meepusColonelKernel: uncap your upspeed just to be safe, but also make sure you're the DMZ host06:12
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derfFliesLikeABrick: dual OC3s to the internet, (possibly) an OC192 to internet2, which is like 0 content other than other academic campuses06:13
dooglusColonelKernel: you should see an immediate effect - slow but sure06:13
diemanaztek: hard to find cards that are ok with linux and wpa_supplicant in the store :|06:13
aztekyeah06:13
FliesLikeABrickah ok derf yeah06:13
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meepusColonelKernel: go to http://192.168.1.1 then go to applications and gaming, and go to the DMZ submenu06:13
Epputotal_assault: you need to install gcc-3.406:13
FliesLikeABrickbut derf  there are a lot of linux mirrors on i206:13
FliesLikeABrickwhich is good06:13
FliesLikeABrickvery fast06:13
meepuscolonelkernel: and make sure that your local IP is set there06:13
diemanaztek: and sometimes you have to buy the expensive ones (ie: not $20) to get the right chipset06:13
azteki have a 2 cards and two laptops, so i'm not looking to buy more. i'll figure out something that works for me for now06:13
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EnsignRedshirtMmmmm....  herrings....   (tuxracer runs fine)06:13
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diemanaztek: luckily most people just have ipw2200 or something in their laptops now06:13
FliesLikeABrickderf berkely is on I2 and they host one of the debian apt repositories06:13
Laforge38could i still use it if someone sent me the file bcmwl5a.inf and .sys or no?06:13
erikcorehaselden: i'm new to xchat and i'm not getting any private messages as far as i can tell06:14
total_assaulteppu: alrite i had gcc installed but installing that now06:14
FliesLikeABrickand derf, if not for content, you still have the low latency of that and everything, not to mention the filesharing we're notorious for06:14
Epputotal_assault: the default gcc is 4.0.106:14
haseldenerikcore: check the tabs06:14
haseldenshould see one from me?06:14
FliesLikeABrickderf what was your major(s) ?06:14
total_assaulteppu: o alrite gotcha ty06:14
derfFliesLikeABrick: you've got one locally, too.  the ACM has one.  mirrors.acm.cs.rpi.edu06:14
diemanFliesLikeABrick, derf, etc: i did turn down the max conenctions on mirror.cs.umn.edu -- so there may be a wait but the b/w should be reasonable after it starts up.06:14
derfFliesLikeABrick: CS06:14
erikcorehaselden: i don't have any tabs opening here06:14
_FR0D0cafuego_, now im testing and even in a console (<ctr>+<alt>+<Fn>) the dead keys didn't work06:15
FliesLikeABrickderf, awesome06:15
FliesLikeABrickdieman who are you?06:15
aztekhe's dieman06:15
derfFliesLikeABrick: graduated in '03, and I'm working just outside of Boston now.06:15
Epputotal_assault: does the ndiswrapper from ubuntu not work on your system, because you are compiling one?06:15
diemanFliesLikeABrick: what do you mean?06:15
FliesLikeABrickderf i'm a sophomore for CSE/EE but i'm thinking of going CSE/IT06:15
diemanFliesLikeABrick: name? or what is my deal, or what?06:15
modzerolol06:15
FliesLikeABrickdieman what is your deal, you said you turned down the max connections ?06:15
haseldenerikcore: have you modified your apt sources file?  transcode is available via apt06:16
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diemanFliesLikeABrick: i thought you guys were looking for a mirror on i2 that didn't suck ;)06:16
diemanor one of you06:16
diemanwas looking int he scrollback06:16
diemanwe're getting hammered too still though06:16
FliesLikeABrickdieman are you affiliated with the rpi mirror or something?06:16
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erikcorehaselden: yeah, i added the ones listed on the dvd::rip site06:16
diemanFliesLikeABrick: i was talking about mirror.cs.umn.edu, rather06:16
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total_assaulthow do you check the kernel you have installed?06:17
erikcorehaselden: i even tried to build from a tarball but i'm getting all sorts of problems06:17
haseldentotal_assault: uname -a06:17
tritiumtotal_assault, check it for what?06:17
FliesLikeABrickdieman question stands though, do you manage that mirror or something?06:17
haseldengives you the kernel name06:17
cafuego_total_assault: 'uname -r' for the current running one.06:17
tritiumThe version number?  uname -r06:17
zaxi can not figure out how to install real player06:17
total_assaultok06:17
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diemanFliesLikeABrick: no, have nothing to do with the rpi stuff, only umn06:17
haseldenerikcore: i just apt-get'ed dvdrip today and it works....hang on06:17
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FliesLikeABrickdieman thats what im talking about now06:17
cafuego_total_assault: see also 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep linux-image' for all installed ones.06:17
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EnsignRedshirtmodzero: Thanks for your help.  Later.06:17
total_assaultok i got 2.6.12-906:18
modzeronp06:18
zaxit wont let me put the download into the /root06:18
zojak550 KB/s on bittorrent nice06:18
total_assaultis the compiler different for 64 bit?06:18
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erikcorehaselden: it's saying i need transcode and i can't install that either, apt-get or build from source06:18
cafuego_total_assault: Yep, that's the latest one for breezy.06:18
modzeroneed permissions06:18
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FliesLikeABrickderf i keep trying to get a job in the vcc but they keep shunning me and blowing me off06:18
cafuego_total_assault: No, still gcc-3.4 (for the kernel) and gcc-4.0 for userspace.06:18
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_native_you dont DL to /root06:18
zaxi am supposed to be the admin what do i do06:18
_native_zax06:18
erikcorehaselden: infact, transcode seems to be the big problem06:18
FliesLikeABrickderf i gave them an application last year and got nowhere06:18
modzerolol06:19
haseldenerikcore: you running breezy or hoary?06:19
zaxit just downloads to desktop by default06:19
total_assaulthow to force compile with gcc3.4 if i have gcc4 installed too/06:19
FliesLikeABrickderf did you work in there?06:19
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cafuego_zax: Make a directory in your hoemdir and dump the download there.06:19
ubuntuguyanthony: OK, thanks I installed mozilla-mplayer.... now for the codecs!06:19
derfFliesLikeABrick: no, and I'm pretty sure we're way off topic06:19
FliesLikeABrickderf mhm we are06:19
anthony!tell ubuntuguy about w32codec06:19
niggpieOk i'm getting frustrated. Breezy doesn't like my ATI 9200SE. Can't boot into Ubuntu, all I get is a black screen and a mouse cursor. I can't use apt-get because I dont' have a wired internet connection. I tried apt-cdrom add to direct apt-get to the cdrom drive, but it can't find the xorg-driver-fglrx package i need to get the 9200 workin. Any ideas?06:19
anthony!tell ubuntuguy about w32codecs06:19
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cafuego_FliesLikeABrick/derf: /j #ubuntu-offtopic06:19
erikcorehaselden: breezy06:19
James686someone answer this, is aLinux easy to install, and is it worth downloading?06:19
ubuntuguyanthony: why not?06:20
cafuego_James686: Yes, we like Ubuntu.06:20
total_assaulthow do i uninstall gcc4 (i install my apt-get install gc)06:20
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total_assaultgcc*06:20
meepusniggpie: spend 20 dollars on a poor nvidia card06:20
modzeroubuntu  good06:20
meepus;006:20
modzerogoooood06:20
SillyConeWhenever I log out of Gnome I get a dozen of warnings like "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" ..and so on. What does it mean?06:20
cafuego_total_assault: 'sudo apt-get remove gcc'06:20
modzerolol meeps06:20
total_assaultk06:20
gnomefreakJames686, ubuntu is very easy to install and i like it06:20
spackeststrange, I like ubuntu, too :)06:20
niggpiemeepus haha, anyone want to play tradesies?06:20
modzeromeepus just give him your old mx06:20
haseldenerikcore: do you have universe uncommented in your sources.list?06:20
modzerolol spack06:20
meepusmy old mx06:20
meepushaha06:20
meepusit's somewhere06:20
meepusin a drawer06:20
cafuego_total_assault: You cna also use the synaptic package manager to select packages for removal.06:21
meepuswith a sticky note that says06:21
niggpiehaha!06:21
meepus"do not use"06:21
zaxcafuego_ and then what06:21
haseldenerikcore: i didn't add any external ones...just uncommented the universe/multiverse06:21
modzerolol06:21
anthonyubuntuguy: Check your private message.06:21
James686well I cant use Ubuntu cuz it wont automatically detect my Nvidia GeforceFX 5500 graphics card and Linksys wireless network card...06:21
niggpiebut, is it in an anti-static bag, or stuffed underneath your sock drawer?06:21
tritiummeepus, try periods for punctuation, rather than hitting enter all the time06:21
niggpie:)06:21
ubuntuguyanthony: ok, got it. thanks!06:21
James686so would aLinux be better for me?06:21
modzerojames your 5500 should be detected06:21
meepustritium, the internet is not the place to get anal about grammar06:21
cafuego_zax: You cna tell firefox to download to that directory by default. Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads06:21
meepusI'm a journalism major.06:21
tritiummeepus, there are too many people, and the SNR is too low to flood the channel like that06:21
anethemadoes anyone know if there are any video card overclocking utils for linux? for ati perhaps?06:21
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James686no it doesnt detect it automatically...06:22
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erikcorehaselden: i uncommented both, and i've googled the shit out of this problem... it doesn't seem like a lot of people are having luck with transcode06:22
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johnnyargh.. i try to install lpr and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop06:22
zaxI already downloaded them but it wants it to be in root or something06:22
modzeroare you on a laptop james?06:22
James686no06:22
cafuego_James686: You're asking the wrong channel. We use Ubuntu. So we'd recommend Ubuntu. We don't use aLinux. Try #alinux06:22
tony_the_cable_gQuestion about installing Flash Player in Breezy.06:22
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modzeroso its a standard 500 agp card?06:22
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meepusYour wish is my command, but just know that it's only because I'm a benevolent person.  With a freakin' halo over my head.06:22
anthonyubuntuguy: Okay, so go to "http://tinyurl.com/87ofx", and click on the ".torrent" link besides "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb". Firefox should open prompt you to open or save the torrent, you can open it with the Ubuntu's internal BT client and save the DEB file to a place of your preference. Let me know after you have completed the download.06:22
haseldenerikcore: maybe i got lucky.?? i did it a few hours ago, and dvdrip pops up for me06:22
modzerooh he said alinux?06:22
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spackestI am getting like 30k/s from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com too by the way06:23
modzerowell in that case. get ubuntu06:23
James686I use a Dell Dimension 2400 wand it has a Intel P 4 w/ 2.23gHZ processor and I have 760MB of RAM06:23
cafuego_modzero: Yes, he seems a tad slow.06:23
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tritiummeepus, thanks, it helps in a busy channel like this.  We appreciate it.06:23
erikcoredamn, i've spent hours on this06:23
modzeronext06:23
anthonytony_the_cable_g: Are you asking how to install flash plug-in for Mozilla Firefox?06:23
tony_the_cable_gYes anthony.06:23
cafuego_James686: Ubuntu breezy will run *perfectly* on that.06:23
James686ok06:23
ColonelKernelmeepus, whats the apt command to upgrade - apt-get dist-upgrade?06:23
total_assault:( install gcc-3.4 same error oot@ubuntu-pavel:/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1# make make -C driver make[1] : Entering directory `/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver' make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver \ NDISWRAPPER_VERSION=1.2rc1 \ EXTRA_VERSION= modules make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic' ma06:23
total_assaultke[2] : *** No rule to make target `Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver'. Stop. make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic' make[1] : *** [default]  Error 2 make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver' make: *** [all]  Error 206:23
modzeroyeah james really get ubuntu your video card will thank you for it.06:23
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meepusfrankly, I've never seen an unmoderated channel with upwards of 100 people in it before, not to even touch upwards of 60006:24
cafuego_total_assault: Please don't paste here.06:24
James686well I have the CD of version 5.04 and that doesnt work...06:24
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modzeroof ubuntu?06:24
cafuego_James686: How does it not work?06:24
tony_the_cable_gPlease enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,06:24
tony_the_cable_gor Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):06:24
modzerodid you download it?06:24
alsyrColonelKernel:what is the memtest for (i am running it) and how do i proceed from there ?06:24
anthonytony_the_cable_g: Simply go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Packet manager and then type "flash" in the search string.06:24
tony_the_cable_gThats what I am getting now. I dont know the path.06:24
James686it goes to an Xorg blue screen error thing that it cant detect the screen display...06:24
meepusalsyr: he probably wanted you to check to make sure your RAM wasn't made of potato chips06:24
mike42i gotta small problem06:24
cafuego_total_assault: There are ndiswrapper packages. use those instead.06:24
anthonytony_the_cable_g: Are you looking for flash plug-in for Firefox or Opera?06:24
modzerook james,,, did you download the cd or order it?06:24
haseldenerikcore: try doing a /msg haselden hello06:25
meepusalsyr: in the event of potato chips, it's reccomended that you buy new ram06:25
tony_the_cable_gFirefox06:25
alsyrmeepus: ok06:25
James686ordered them06:25
ColonelKernelalsyr, reboot, type in memtest at the prompt, if you can figure out how, run the extensive test, it sounds like youve got a memory error06:25
zaxThe file /home/zax/untitled folder/rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm does not exist, or it is corrupt. You may have downloaded the wrong file, or put it in the wrong location. Please try again.06:25
mike42i wanna install the drivers for my ati vid card06:25
modzerothem... have you tried other cd's then? i take it you have.06:25
FliesLikeABrickzax from install cd?06:25
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James686I ordered like 20 of them lol06:25
cafuego_James686: *nod* so it doesn't autodetect the correct resolution. That should be fairly trivial to fix.06:25
anthonytony_the_cable_g: Then just go to Synaptic Package Manager and type "flashplayer-mozilla" into the search string.06:25
mike42but i can only find rpms for them06:25
johnnyargh.. anybody here tried lrp ?06:25
zaxfrom install aplication for real player06:26
tritiumtotal_assault, use pastebin or #flood next time please06:26
johnnyerr lpr06:26
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cafuego_James686: Do you know what kind of vga chip it has?06:26
anthonyjohnny: Are you having trouble with printers?06:26
tritium!tell ColonelKernel about breezy06:26
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James686Verto? I dunno if thats it lol06:26
meepusdoes breezy come with decent driver support for ATI, as far as linux goes anyway?  I just want to be able to play divx and run my desktop at 1024x76806:26
erikcorehaselden: private messages are disabled for unregistered users06:26
zaxthe rpm is in there is my syntax wrong or something?06:26
johnnyapt-cache search flashplayer dosn't give me any results06:26
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erikcorethat solves that problem06:26
ColonelKernelthanks tritium06:26
modzeropny06:26
mike42the card is a 9550, which means the chip is a slow 960006:26
johnnyyes.. i'm having trouble with printers :)06:26
haseldenerikcore: ok...that's prolly why you weren't getting mine06:26
bz0bhey guys06:26
bz0bi was wondering06:27
johnnyi have to use lpr drivers with this printer06:27
bjvColonelKernel:06:27
bjvsed 's/[hH] oary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > output && cp output /etc/apt/sources.list; pt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -y --force-yes06:27
weobyippie yay got wow running on linux so happy06:27
tritiummeepus, decent is a good choice of words, since it's not quite as wells-supported as nvidia (thanks to ATI)06:27
bjv;)06:27
johnnyand then a cups wrapper driver06:27
bz0bif the new breezy has more support for pci express06:27
modzeropossibly an unprobed monitor issue06:27
tritium!tell meepus about ati06:27
zaxflieslikeabrick: do u know?06:27
anthonymeepus: You need to install the package "xorg-driver-fglrx" from the Synaptic Packet Manager.06:27
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modzerojames ahve you run linux before?06:27
modzerohave rather06:27
anthonyjohnny: So you have successfully installed the printer?06:27
alsyrColonelKernel: i ran memtest from the boot menu. is the same as running it from the prompt ?06:27
bjvColonelKernel: hang on, that line is missing an 'a' somewhere. :P06:27
ColonelKernelholy crap thats easy06:27
mike42tried that, stil not working right06:27
tritiumColonelKernel, :)06:27
bz0btritium, does the 5.10 have more pci express drivers?06:27
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James686I was able to run Xandros on this...lol06:27
ColonelKernelthank you tritium!06:27
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dimmhi06:27
tritiumSure thing, ColonelKernel :)06:27
James686nothin else06:27
meepusthanks tritium06:28
total_assaulttritium: how do those work?06:28
James686everything else fails...06:28
tritiumbz0b, not sure, haven't checked them out06:28
dimmhow do I install the mysqli ewxtension for php5?06:28
tritiumtotal_assault, which?06:28
tony_the_cable_gIt says no packages found.06:28
ColonelKernelalsyr, yes, do the extended test06:28
tritiumno problem, meepus06:28
johnnyanthony, no ..06:28
total_assaultthe pastebin and #flood06:28
tony_the_cable_gIt says no packages found.06:28
bz0btritium, arg... well, then i guess its to trial and error, but i hope so06:28
johnnyi have to install lpr06:28
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cafuego_James686: intel integrated graphics from the looks of it.06:28
johnnybut it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop06:28
anthonyjohnny: What is the brand and model of your printer?06:28
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johnnybrother mfc-3320CN06:28
tony_the_cable_gIt says no packages found.06:28
johnnyi have the instructions06:28
meepusAH!  My installation cd finished downloading :)  Wish me luck, I'm on my way into breezy :D06:29
James686yes I have that as well...06:29
tritiumtotal_assault, oh, pastebin is a website where you can paste text, and then give us the URL so we can help you out.  #flood is an IRC channel with the same purpose06:29
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tritiumthe idea is not to paste in here, as it's too busy, total_assault06:29
total_assaultok06:29
naliothtony_the_cable_g: is your keyboard stuck?06:29
erikcoreanyone know anything about fixing transcode for breezy?06:29
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anthonyjohnny: Okay, just give me a sec, let me look at their documentations.06:29
cafuego_total_assault: There are precompiled ndisrwapper driver and utility packages. ANy reason you're not just using those?06:29
tony_the_cable_gIm sorry.....06:29
modzerojames hang tight for a sec maybe i can help you out here. your card is compatible though im sure of that06:29
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johnnyanthony, want links?06:29
James686aight06:29
total_assaulti just installed them hehe thanks a lot06:29
tony_the_cable_gThe screen moved up.....I'm tired.06:29
cafuego_total_assault: cool :-)06:29
James686well Im gettin aLinux just in case lol06:29
ubuntuguyanthony: I tried playing a quicktime trailer, and firefox complains that totem can't open it... do I need to uninstall Totem?06:29
plumpkinsorry if this has already been asked, but i installed the Breezy preview release a couple weeks ago, do i have to do anything other than install the updates that pop up automatically in order to be fully up to date now that the final has been released?06:29
anthonyjohnny: I got it.06:29
naliothplumpkin: you're all set06:30
starz\o/06:30
starz<3 --rbind06:30
plumpkinnalioth, thanks :)06:30
cafuego_James686: Most likely when you tried 5.04 the gfx chip was too new. I expect it will be detected and is supported just fine in 5.10.06:30
gigaclonhow to make a simlink?06:30
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James686maybe06:30
chjchjchjTried to install, but application installgave some error...don't know if desktop is installed...only have command prompt...need help getting started please06:30
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James686but grrr, Im runnin out of CD-R's...:-(06:30
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starzso! how do i set my second hdd // folder i linked it to so that all users on system can read/write not just write to it?06:30
cafuego_James686: I'd give breezy a try first .. it's VERY nice.06:31
James686cuz I know it doesnt work well w/ CD-RW's...06:31
anthonytony_the_cable_g: You need to enable the repositories, open up a Terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and enter the password as it prompts you. You'll get a new text editor page.06:31
ColonelKernelwill it matter if I keep the gui running while I update?06:31
tony_the_cable_gWhats the path to Firefox? I can finish the install with the package I down loaded.06:31
chjchjchj...can someone tell me how to install a simple text IRC so I can connect to here from within ubuntu and then try stuff?06:31
James686is it a complete makeover on the desktop or somethin???06:31
starzchjchjchj::06:31
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starzdo you have in only the server version?06:31
gigaclonchjchjchj, its called irssi06:31
johnnychjchjchj,   apt-get installer irssi06:31
starzb/c xchat is included06:31
johnnyerr install06:31
kascheiJames686, apt-get install bitchx06:31
anthonytony_the_cable_g: I do not know, I installed my Flash plug-in from Synaptic, I'm sorry.06:31
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Crys_Ubu_PCHey, guys.06:31
modzeroits probably installed already chjch06:31
bjvthe breezy "backports" repo will not come into existence until packages are being made for Agitated Aardvark right?06:31
kascheisorry06:32
kascheichjchjchj, apt-get install bitchx06:32
kascheiit's a text IRC06:32
bjvshould i just comment that out of my sources.list?06:32
johnnyi can't find it in synaptic myself.. even after uncommenting universe06:32
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cafuego_starz: but xchat is crap.06:32
Crys_Ubu_PCwhat does it mean when fsck fails and it asks me to fix it manually?06:32
chjchjchjok thx all, will try all those ideas and reconnect with more questions :-)06:32
johnnyand running update06:32
gigacloncafuego_, why?06:32
Amaranthcafuego_: But it's the best we have. :)06:32
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modzerok james im hopin you have cable or adsl?06:32
cafuego_johnny: Did you update the package lists after enabling universe/multiverse?06:32
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cafuego_gigaclon: it's slow, it needs X.06:32
tony_the_cable_gIt did bring up a Text box....now what do I do?06:33
ColonelKerneltoo bad no ones ever made a bittorrent client for system upgrades - would take a lot of pressure off of centralized update servers.06:33
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James686downstairs, yes, up here, this is using a wireless network card from Linksys06:33
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James686would that be a problem?06:33
kascheiIs there a fix for having lots, and lots, and lots of broken dependencies after apt-get dist-upgrade?  Many of my packages are held back and I cannot install xorg-fglrx package06:33
Dekkardanyone haveing trouble with the java sdk?06:33
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starzlol cafuego06:33
anthonyubuntuguy: Go to Synaptic and uninstall the packages "totem", "libtotem-plparser0", "totem-gstreamer", (and "totem-xine" if you have that installed). Then try again.06:33
cafuego_ColonelKernel: I think you'll find apt-bt is actually in development (or was a while ago...)06:33
alsyrColonelKernel: Is that memory error possible ? knoppix seems to run fine on the computer.06:33
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erikcoreexit06:33
modzerojames are you able to get online with your wifi and download a copy of breezy?06:33
starzhow do i change write permission on a folder thats linked to a hdd?06:33
ColonelKernelcafuego, right on\06:33
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gigacloncafuego, but most people like gui-based IRC clients ( like myself)06:34
James686yes Im using the same computer right now06:34
cafuego_ColonelKernel: DISCLAIMER: Nothing I say should be trusted. Ever.06:34
jrattner1Whats the command to reconfigure X...dpkg --reconfigure xorg-xorg?06:34
cafuego_gigaclon: Most people use windows, that doesn't mean windows is any good ;-)06:34
tritiumsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:34
starzdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:34
starzdam06:34
kascheisudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?06:34
starzu win XD06:34
cafuego_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:34
anthonyjohnny: Are you running on MAC?06:34
ColonelKernelcafuego, will you please send me some money?06:34
modzeroim running hoary myself with a higher card than yours right now, but there may be something in your chipset, its a pny i beleive and ive had some issues with their hardware before. grab a copy of breezy and you should be good to go here. and im willing to bet youll enjoy ubuntu06:35
cafuego_ColonelKernel: sure06:35
gigacloncafuego, what would recommend for a gui based IRC client then?06:35
johnnyno06:35
tony_the_cable_gnow what do I do with that anthony?06:35
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wolkiis there a way to find out which libwnck application name a certain window has?06:35
ColonelKernelnice06:35
tritiumColonelKernel, sudo apt-get install money06:35
cafuego_gigaclon: xterm -e irssi06:35
anthonyjohnny: I don't see Brother providing Linux drivers.06:35
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ColonelKernelI tried that06:35
tritium:)06:35
ColonelKernelit didnt work06:35
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ColonelKernelsaid 404 - money not found06:35
tritiumgood one06:35
johnnyanthony, http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_wrapper_install2.html06:35
NomikosI'm going to build a little shrine to apt-get. It managed to install breezy no matter what i did; got php5 installed, and got it to talk to mysql 4.1 - which wouldn't even start at first, until i just apt-get'd it (again?). Something which i never managed manually on OSs i work daily with...06:35
ColonelKernelmaybe I shouldnt have used the white house update server..06:35
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James686will version 5.10 be able to detect my wireless network card?06:35
James686its using a PCI slot06:36
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tritiumJames686, what chipset?06:36
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James686Linksys?06:36
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ubuntuguyanthony: If I try to remove Totem, synaptic wants to uninstall the ubuntu desktop! I don't think I want to do that, right?06:36
keffyndGuys, I have a Audigy4 Pro, and there is another device in the list (SigmaTel) in AlsaMixer, I have no idea what the SigmaTel devices is how can I find out06:36
modzerowifi is tricky in linux. you need to find out what the chipset it06:36
rob^lt!wireless06:36
uboturumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:36
anthonytony_the_cable_g: Find the line that says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted", remove the "#" and the space before it, then add the word "multiverse" to the end of it with a space between that and "restricted", save the file and exit.06:36
rob^ltubotu tell James686 about wireless06:36
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modzerowait rob he needs breezy first06:36
Baxter_KylieHey folks... question -- does anyone else have an issue (or understand what's going wrong) when I click system-->administration-->networking I get the window at the bottom where it say it's 'starting' but then disappears after a few seconds and doesn't start... does anyone else have this?06:37
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anthonyubuntuguy: It won't affect anything else, that's what I have done and my Ubuntu works fine, I'm not sure if this is correct but I think it only uninstalls the element that associates with totem in ubuntu-desktop.06:37
rob^ltmodzero, he should be running breezy06:37
StadsportErm, is this a support channel?06:37
rob^ltStadsport, yes06:37
StadsportOkay, just making sure.06:38
tritiumYes, Stadsport06:38
niggpieHow do i find out what hardware 5.10 supports?06:38
modzerohes trying to get ubuntu06:38
James686how do I know the model and everything of it?06:38
ubuntuguyanthony: OK, I'll cross my fingers06:38
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rob^ltmodzero, that page will tell him if his wireless card is supported06:38
keffyndSigmatel is seemingly IRDA, how can I remove that?06:38
tritiumJames686, lspci, if it's pci06:38
StadsportI've got 5.04 on my desktop. I just set it up the other day. I'm wondering what's the best way to upgrade to 5.10? Can it "overwrite" the previous Ubuntu install?06:38
icarus!tell icarus about skype06:38
ColonelKernelhmm looks like itll just be faster to do this with the cdrom - can I do this with the cdrom iso image or do I actually have to burn the cdrom?06:38
tritium!tell Stadsport about breezy06:38
rob^ltStadsport, see the topic06:38
StadsportAwesome, thanks06:38
twokneeever since i installed ubuntu on my 64 bit computer though i installed the 32 bit version my computers internal beep will sound every so often.  i dont understand.06:39
anthonyjohnny: So which part are you stuck on?06:39
ColonelKerneltwoknee, heat issues?06:39
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twokneenope no heat issues06:39
James686well before I download Breezy Im gonna go ahead and give aLinux a shot guys thanks for the help06:39
johnnyinstalling lpr06:39
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johnnyit wants to remove ubuntu-desktop06:40
naliothjohnny: thats fine06:40
twokneewhat is lpr ?06:40
johnnyhow is that fine?06:40
cafuego_twoknee: Any chance the bios is set to complain when the cpu fan is stopped?06:40
naliothjohnny: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. nothing is being removed that is important06:40
cafuego_johnny: ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package.06:40
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twokneecafuego yes there is a chance.06:40
twokneeits an open computer though its got air06:41
anthonyjohnny: CD to the directory that contains the file "mfc210clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.deb" then do "sudo spkg -i --force-all mfc210clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.deb".06:41
tony_the_cable_gdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse06:41
tony_the_cable_gdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe06:41
tritiumjohnny, cupsys-bsd conflicts with lpr, and it's a dependency of ubuntu-desktop06:41
adiabaticI'm reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes; how can I find out if I have any conflicting packages installed?06:41
cafuego_twoknee: ANy chace cool-n-quiet is active, so it might actually stop the fan when it's not hot? :-)06:41
tony_the_cable_gLike that anthony?06:41
johnnyi need cups06:41
tritiumthen don't remove lpr06:41
johnnyhehe06:41
James686have any of you actually seen the desktop of aLinux?06:41
twokneenope that is not enabled06:41
James686its pretty damn sweet looking06:41
tritiumno, James686.  this is #ubuntu06:41
johnnyJames686, will you please be quiet about that06:41
modzerojames this is not an alinux forum06:41
cafuego_twoknee: Then i dunno...06:41
tritiumplease stay on topic06:41
James686resembles XP but alot better looking06:41
alsyrColonelKernel: any idea how long memtest takes ?06:42
modzerojames shhh06:42
anthonytony_the_cable_g: Yes, so now exit the gedit text editor, run Synaptic again and then search for "flashplayer-mozilla", you should be able to see it.06:42
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James686lmao06:42
James686sry guys06:42
cafuego_James686: Are you describing a dirty toilet?06:42
James686couldnt resist06:42
twokneealsyr be patient and let it be thorough06:42
anthonyjohnny: SO you have downloaded the "cupswrapper driver" right?06:42
James686no06:42
johnnyi don't know if i need lprng or just lpr06:42
alsyrColonelKernel: ok :)06:42
johnnyyep anthony06:42
johnnybut i needed lpr ..  before doing so :)06:42
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gigaclonhow do I make a symlink?06:42
Ravenskymplayer isnt in the repo?06:42
johnnyshould i get lprng or lpr ?06:42
dingn06:42
twokneesince i have a amd64 processor and i am using 32 bit breezy, what architechture does it think i have ?  i wanted to install mplayer06:43
adiabaticgigaclon: ln -s06:43
ColonelKernelalsyr, it depends on the CPU06:43
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gigaclonthanks'06:43
ColonelKerneland the memory06:43
tritiumjohnny, cups has an lpr command replacement06:43
cafuego_twoknee: i38606:43
twokneethank you cafuego06:43
James686thats more like what Ubuntu 5.04s desktop looks like...a dirty toilet, no offense but its kinda fugly...06:43
johnnyi installed the deb06:43
johnnylol06:43
tritiumJames686, okay, thanks for the input06:43
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Chinstraptwoknee, actually, amd64's in 32bit mode have a full i686 command set06:43
anthonyjohnny: So you have installed "mfc210clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.deb" and "cupswrappermfc210c_1.0.0-1_i386.deb" is that correct?06:43
adiabaticgigaclon: however, there's a difference between relative and absolute symlinks; you might want to try one or the other depending on your needs06:43
johnnyi installed only the lpr thing and ti gave me file missing errors06:44
Chinstraptwoknee, it also has 3dnow and 3dnowext, so if there is a k7 you can try that too06:44
twokneeChinstrap thank you06:44
johnnyi haven't gone farther until i find out if they matter06:44
anthonyjohnny: Which file does it say it's missing?06:44
tritiumJames686, go ahead and try #24 if you prefer, rather than #1: http://distrowatch.com/06:44
ubuntuguyanthony: now totem does not complain, but mplayer does not play the trailer06:44
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gigaclonwhat would be the pros and cons of disabling esd at startup06:44
Chinstraptwoknee, cat /proc/cpuinfo will show you everything your cpu supports06:44
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anthonyubuntuguy: After you download the win32codecs have you installed it?06:44
modzeropros youve disabled esd, cons to start it you have to type start again lol06:45
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weobis there a time server that works - the default ones dont seem to06:45
twokneeChinstrap i have already commenced the i386 install.  can i dpkg -r mplayer-386 ?  what about its dependencies ?  must get rid of them too06:45
twokneethrough apt-get06:45
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ubuntuguyanthony: I have not installed it yet, how do I do that? deb -i or something ?06:45
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alsyrColonelKernel: ok06:45
Nomikosthanks all :-)06:46
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Chinstraptwoknee, you don't need to clear the deps, they will probably remain the same anyway06:46
glickscrew it ill just install breezy from scratch06:46
anthonyubuntuguy: Open up a new Terminal, "CD" to the directory that contains the w32codec deb file, then type "dpkg -i <filename>.deb".06:46
omphmm... if i don't comment out the breezy-updates lines in source.list, i get errors when running apt-get update06:46
jrattner1i'm having trouble getting X to work it is complaining about screens, after configuring using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:46
johnnymkdir: cannot create directory `/var/spool/lpd/MFC3320CN': No such file or directory06:46
johnnychown: cannot access `/var/spool/lpd/MFC3320CN': No such file or directory06:46
twokneethank you Chinstrap06:46
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anthonyjohnny: 1 sec.06:46
Baxter_KylieDoes anyone have any idea why I can't get the networking application open?06:46
johnnyi thought that was kidna important :)06:46
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zchjzchjzchBack to windoze...sigh...irssi command not found...apt-get install irssi > Package irssi is not avail but is ref to by another pkg...This means that the pkg is missing, has been obsoleted or is only avail from another source. E:Package irssi has no instal06:47
johnnyapt-cache search irssi06:47
ubuntuguyanthony: OK, that's done06:47
tritiumzchjzchjzch, sounds like you didn't apt-get update?06:47
ColonelKernelzchjzchjzch, sounds like thats where you belong06:47
jrattner1Anyone got any clues06:47
Chinstrapzchjzchjzch, apt-get install irssi-text06:47
zojakwow 700 kB/s on the bittorrent dl ^_^06:47
naliothjohnny: irssi is default installed06:47
anthonyubuntuguy: Now try again.06:47
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James686WOA!06:47
James686damn...06:47
gigaclonubotu, tell me about brezzy06:47
gigaclonubotu, tell me about !brezzy06:48
James686lmao06:48
jrattner1I wonder why X worked in the last version and not now06:48
eracerbit!breezy06:48
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:48
James686spell check man06:48
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tritiumJames686, please don't taunt people, or I'll remove you06:48
tony_the_cable_gIts working I believe but now I get an error message.06:48
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modzerojust type irc in a terminal06:49
weobi get unable to contact time server when i hit apply - any ideas?06:49
James686Im not taunting Im just ...well nvm but I promise Im meaning no harn to anyone Im just in a hyper modd right now06:49
James686harm*06:49
James686damn now I need to learn to spell lol06:49
ubuntuguyanthony: that worked... I'm watching Jarhead now. Thank you!06:49
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anthonytony_the_cable_g: What error message did you get?06:49
anthonyubuntuguy: You are welcome.06:50
zchjzchjzchok will try all of the above///06:50
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zchjzchjzchthanks as always...see you in a bit06:50
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tritiumhee hee06:50
interferonwhere can i find a step-by-step install guide for ubuntu?06:50
Hendricim using xfce4... but doesn't have a shutdown option (greyed out).. how can i fix this?06:50
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cafuego_<heh>06:51
Hendriccafuego, can you help me?06:51
cafuego_Hendric: That depends. I'm not _actually_  qualified sugeon.06:51
twokneei am seeing some hostnames here on freenode that are shown as unaffiliated/<blank> could someone explain to me what that means ?06:51
tritiumthose are hostmasks06:52
pioneertwoknee, it means we are unworthy06:52
Hendricehehe.. damn XFCE doesn't even have a shutdown option06:52
johnnyanthony, any lidas?06:52
johnnyideas*06:52
starzeh06:52
ali_Tritium, what channel was it that I was just in?06:52
anthonyjohnny: Do you already have a Brother LPR driver installed?06:52
ali_with you and Nalioth06:52
cafuego_ah xfce, no i dunno....06:52
johnnyno.. i'm trying to install it!06:52
thrice`someone needs to update the BreezyUpgradeNotes06:52
johnnythat's where this error is coming from06:52
thrice` Reboot in order to effect all changes (XFree86 to X.org, kernel upgrade, etc.)06:52
tritiumcafuego, I had ubotu send you the SurgeryFAQ wiki page URL06:52
thrice`just xorg-xorg now06:52
anthonyjohnny: And you used --force-all command right?06:52
johnnyyes06:52
naliothali_: /whois nalioth06:53
johnnybut there is no /var/spool/lpr06:53
johnnycuz i don't have lpr installed :)06:53
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johnnysomebody said something about cups having it's own.. but this package doesn't respect that06:53
Chinstrapjohnny, cups replaces lpr06:53
johnnyChinstrap, i need lpr and then cups wrapper06:53
James686this might be a stupid question, but honestly, whats the best Linux OS for beginners?06:53
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anthonyjohnny: Did you do "sudo blah blah blah" or just "blah blah blah"?06:53
johnnyubuntu is .. that's why i'm using it06:53
twokneeJames686, ubuntu06:53
James686lol06:53
HendricJames686, honestly ubuntu..06:54
James686ok...06:54
johnnyi'm logged in as root06:54
James686lol06:54
Chinstrapjohnny, cupsys-bsd gives you the wrapper06:54
jrattner1I'm getting the following error when starting X, VESA(0): No matching modes and below it says it found screens but none are usuable... any ideas?06:54
ali_thank you06:54
twokneeas far as i'm concerned its my only linux os06:54
James686well then the CDs I recieved sucks...lol06:54
tritiumJames686, that's not a biased answer, really.  That's part of the reason it's atop the rankings on distrowatch.com06:54
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johnnyChinstrap, yet.. it doesn't create /var/spool/lpr :)06:54
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cybernook6bjf06:54
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jrattner1ubuntu > *06:54
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Hendricjrattner1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- then configure it correctly...06:55
Chinstrapjohnny, it shouldn't, it should be using /var/spool/cups06:55
johnnyChinstrap,  i'm trying to follow the brother instructions06:55
anthonyjohnny: I'm not sure if this is a real solution but can you create that folder yourself and then try to "dpkg" the deb again?06:55
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packman_ehello all06:55
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jrattner1Hendric: I've done, I cant get it to work, I figured VESA would work on anything06:55
Crys_Ubu_PCHey all.06:55
kevogodI still can't believe that Microsoft went to South Africa.06:55
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Hendricjrattner1, wats your Vcard??06:56
johnnyhmm.. it still says the same thing..06:56
johnnythat's weird..06:56
Crys_Ubu_PCWould fsck fail if fstab no longer correctly described my disc?06:56
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jrattner1ATI Mobilitity Radeon X600006:56
erirlari have removed windows now and im going to install breezy, but what do i do with GRUB? do i install it in MBR or in /boot --> hda2 ?06:56
jrattner1Hendric: it used to work in VESA under hoary06:56
niggpieJohnny, still can't get the fglrx off the 5.10 CD. I used apt-cdrom add to point it to the drive... but no dice..06:56
Amaranthmbr06:56
_native_they cant stop linux in africa.06:56
erirlarok, thanks06:56
niggpieis there another method?06:56
johnnyniggpie, i don't know if it's actually on the cd06:56
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_native_hell they just cant stop linux06:56
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johnnyniggpie, try sneakernet06:56
jfarrellk i am having problems installing kde06:56
kevogod_native_, Microsoft is trying to prevent the spread by offering Windows server for free to South Africa for 3 years.06:57
twokneewas there a dvd released that is more feature rich than the release date cd ?06:57
modzerol06:57
jfarrelli get these erros06:57
anthonyniggpie: I fixed my resolution problem.06:57
twokneehonestly, i'd hate to start over from scratch06:57
jfarrelli isntalled kubuntu-desktop and it didnt work06:57
jfarrellhttp://pastebin.com/39302006:57
kevogod_native_, http://p2pnet.net/story/656406:57
niggpieohh haha that might be why :) If I burnt fglrx to a disc of itself, would apt-get see it?06:57
Hendricjrattner1, does the ATI xserver driver can't get it to work??06:57
Tobaargh...06:57
Tobanautilus sucks so much06:57
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Tobahow can I switch to something that doesn't suck?06:57
uihow do i change my screenresolution06:57
niggpieanthony :O you got er working?06:57
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jrattner1Hendric: No, the ATI driver fails, and so does VESA06:57
anthonyjohnny: Maybe try to go on first? I'm a new Linux user myself, just started about 4 days ago, so I'm all running out of ideas.06:57
johnnyyou can install it manually using dpkg06:57
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johnnyoh well you come off pretty good06:57
kevogod_native_, But free equates to $9000 in Microsoft terminology06:58
jrattner1Hendric: give me a minute i will try to reconfigure using the ATI driver again06:58
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johnnyi've been using it for 3 years.. but not ubuntu.. and never really tried a printer06:58
Hendricjrattner1, i have a card that doesn't work on a VESA or VGA... but works if i will not enable kernel frame buffering06:58
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johnnymaybe the deb is broken06:58
niggpieahhh, i'll look into dpkg, thx!06:58
Hendricjrattner1, it was a Pine nvidia riva TNT2 card06:58
jfarrellanyone have any ideas06:58
jrattner1Hendric: hold on06:58
Crys_Ubu_PCWould fsck fail if fstab no longer correctly described my disc?06:58
ethan-allisonok so i did the dist-upgrade06:58
zaxAnyone know the file structure system so I canTell the  installer where I downloaded Real Player .rpm06:58
ethan-allisonand now i get06:58
_native_ive seen to many governets switching to linux, i dont think microsoft can compete with the free software idea.06:58
ethan-allisonProcessing was halted because there were too many errors.06:58
ChinstrapCrys_Ubu_PC, yes06:59
ethan-allisonhow exactly would i fix that?06:59
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zaxI keep trying but I keep messing it up06:59
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Crys_Ubu_PCChinstrap, So is there a utility I can run to fix it, or should I just do it manually?06:59
anthonyniggpie: Yes, open up Terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf".06:59
_native_its is like the idea of freedom everybody wants to be free.06:59
twokneewell i bought x86 windows but i think i've outgrown it.06:59
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_native_linux is really unstopable.06:59
zaxmay have downloaded the wrong file, or put it in the wrong location. Please try again.07:00
zax what do i do07:00
kevogodOpen Source in general, not simply Linux07:00
tritiumanthony, generally, you don't want to edit xorg.conf by hand.  Please use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:00
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ethan-allisonzax: download the right file and put it in the right location :P07:00
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niggpieanthony... ok, what am i editing here?07:00
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zaxlol07:00
modzerod07:00
ChinstrapCrys_Ubu_PC, System->Administration->Disks07:00
spindleytritium, why discourage someone from learning linux?07:00
zaxcome on how to i install real player dangint!07:00
johnnyok success i think07:00
ChinstrapCrys_Ubu_PC, or just edit /etc/fstab, it's pretty simple07:00
ethan-allisonzax: download the rpm07:00
jrattner1Hendric: after reconfiguring using the ATI driver I get errors about multiple missing Symbols...any ideas07:00
ethan-allisonalien it07:00
tritiumspindley, I'm not at all.  I gave him the preferred method.07:01
gigaclonzax, try /home/<username>/Desktop07:01
stevenjusing breezy - how can I install flash player for firefox (flashplayer-mozilla or flashplugin-nonfree)?07:01
Crys_Ubu_PCChinstrap, Well, since disks doesn't seem to be there, I'm gonna do that.07:01
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cafuego_spindley: randomly editing a config file without knowing what you're doing is not "learning".07:01
Hendricjrattner1, during the error screen.. view the logs.. and see if some modules are causing the error.. then reconfigure again disabling that module.07:01
twokneezax i have the rpm needed that is referenced in the wiki for real player other than that you follow your instructions07:01
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anthonyniggpie: Go to line 75, does it say "Driver "ati""?07:01
tritiumzax, /msg ubotu info realplayer07:01
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jrattner1Hendric: How can I tell if the modules are causing the errors?07:02
anthonytritium: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.07:02
zaxill try that gigaclon, I think when I download it it has a problem opening07:02
ethan-allisontwonkee07:02
ethan-allisongo to real.com07:02
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ethan-allisondownload the rpm file to some dir07:02
ethan-allisonthen go to a terminal07:02
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total_assaultthanks a lot guys now chatting through my wireless connection :)07:02
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ethan-allisonwait a minute07:02
ethan-allisonit's an instaler file07:02
zaxlemmie try ill be afw07:02
tritium!info realplayer07:02
uboturealplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB07:02
ethan-allisonjust download the installer and run it07:02
Hendricjrattner1, during the bluescreen Xserver error.. it will ask you if you wanna see the logs or not07:02
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ubuntuHello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...07:02
keffyndwhy is it always the most mundane of things take ALL day to fix07:02
niggpieanthony i'll go check, brb!07:02
jrattner1Hendric: I dont get that screen im invoking startx from the command line07:03
keffyndsomethings that simply should just work....07:03
ethan-allisonwhen getting Breezy: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."07:03
ethan-allisonhow exactly do i get around that07:03
cjhcjhcjhyaah, got irssi thanks...so - I think I have a partly installed ubuntu...it downloaded tons of apps but gave an error...how can I get the desktop working?07:03
anthonyniggpie: Okay.07:03
twokneeahh ok yes i did do the apt-get however it required a file to be downloaded first which was hard to locate07:03
Crys_Ubu_PCOkay, now to reboot and see if it worked. Thanks Chinstrap.07:03
total_assaulto guys btw is there anyway to play media files with drm in ubuntu07:03
tritiumethan-allison, zax the ubuntu package installs realplayer, and keeps it under package management07:03
_native_is anyone using hardened-ubuntu?07:03
starscallingGdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed.  <<<--- any clue what that error is?07:03
Hendricjrattner1, .. ah i thought you've done a normal breezy install07:03
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anthonyubuntu: Check here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca07:03
jrattner1Hendric: I have07:03
zaxit is supposedly setting it up now, we shall see07:03
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Hendricjrattner1, why not try restarting07:04
zaxI think I was having problems with the syntax "/home/<username>/Desktop" may help07:04
jrattner1Hendric: alright07:04
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ethan-allisonwhen getting Breezy: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." i tried doing dpkg --configure -a but it give me the same thing07:04
gigaclonzax, use your username inplace of <username>07:04
twokneei would like to backup my retail dvd's to dvd5, is this possible under ubuntu ?07:04
zaxgotcha ;)07:04
tritiumethan-allison, and apt-get -f install?07:04
cjhcjhcjhcan anyone help me get the desktop going?07:04
ethan-allisonno07:05
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gigaclonmy user name is gigaclon so for me it is /home/gigaclon/Desktop07:05
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LaserLineHello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...07:05
cevizoglucan someone point me to a url or doc on configuring a higher screen resolution for grub?07:05
ethan-allisonLaserLine: try getting it from java.com or turning on the multiverse07:05
zaxyup that was it07:05
tritiumLaserLine, or use java-package to build your own .deb from Sun's installer07:05
zaxi just didn't learn the syntax right yet untill gigaclon made it clear07:06
twokneei believe the sun java is the best java candidate07:06
LaserLineI did turn on multiverse........it's wierd, I can't find it on "packages.ubuntu.com" either.07:06
zax:bows:07:06
twokneejust do a tiny bit more work not a big deal07:06
cjhcjhcjhhello?07:06
tritiumLaserLine, you won't due to licensing issues07:06
tritiumjust build your own with java-package07:06
ethan-allisoncjhcjhcjh: describe your problem in detail.07:06
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LaserLinetritium so there are off backports too ?07:06
ethan-allisoncjh: in one message07:06
elPepohi friends07:07
deFrysk!tell laserline about sunjava07:07
tritiumLaserLine, no backports yet07:07
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twokneecjhcjhcjh, you realize people who dont know or have autocomplete would be less likely to help you ?07:07
twokneejust a thought -- sorry, off topic07:07
anthonyLaserLine: Check here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca07:07
tritiumhi elPepo07:07
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cevizoglunevermind, I found it07:07
ethan-allisonbut cjhcjhcjh is so fun to type! :-D07:07
JoshMartensHow can I turn spatial browsing on?07:07
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cjhcjhcjhold laptop, no cd no floppy no other pc. managed to install using loadlin. after reboot left it downloading apps for 10 hours, after 850 packages got an error. I have command prompt, would like help getting the ubuntu desktop going. I think the apps are downloaded, maybe not installed.07:08
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Lordphynanybody know how to set up a home https proxy?07:08
cafuego_!info libc/query ubotu07:08
cafuego_d'oh ;-)07:08
elPepois there some URL where I can download all the images of the all packages for Ubuntu, just like Debian ?07:08
erirlari have a P4 should i then install the 686 kernel?07:08
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cafuego_erirlar: yes07:08
erirlarok07:08
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chapeaurougewhy does it take so long to rip a CD to mp3 with Sound Juicer?07:09
twokneeelPepo, thats silly.  packages are a work in progress which is why you update and upgrade through apt-get07:09
LaserLineHow do I use JavaDeb?07:09
chapeaurouge0.4x speed, etc..07:09
niggpieanthony got the error "Gedit:7775 GTK Warning cannot open display"07:09
naliothLaserLine: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb07:09
deFryskJoshMartens, edit > prefs > behaviour unchek always open in browserwindows07:09
niggpiei tried pico but it came up blank07:09
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twokneewell i shouldn't say silly.  but thats kinda how these packages evolve07:09
JoshMartensdeFrysk, thank you.07:09
anthonyniggpie: So you can't open the xorg.conf is that what you are saying?07:10
twokneeniggpie, use nano, same thing, gpl07:10
niggpieyeah, i get an error msg07:10
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elPepook but you need Internet to use apt-get, I wanna download all to CDs because later I wont have Internet07:10
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twokneei bet you could download the .deb's from a mirror07:11
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fangoriousdoes amarok only play aac using the xine backend?07:11
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cjhcjhcjh...even "man" doesnt work...I think it downloaded but didnt install. How do I get the basics and X installed?07:11
anthonyniggpie: Ugh... I have NO idea then, maybe try tritium's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?07:11
jrattner1Hendric, X has now started but in the incorrect resolution, VESA is working I guess all I had to do was reboot it07:11
kevogodLaserLine, I will host my Java deb if you'd like.07:11
twokneeor have apt-get leave source on hd ?  i'm new to this too so i'm throwing out ideas07:11
tritiumanthony, good advice ;)07:11
glickexcuse me since ubuntu has no root user by default how can i make a cron entry that runs with superuser privelges?07:12
twokneeglick sudo su07:12
cafuego_glick: 'sudo crontab -e'07:12
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LaserLinekevogod - it's ok, I understand the wiki here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java07:12
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glickcafuego, gracias07:12
jgrieves_hola07:12
niggpiethx for the help anthony, i'm going to go consult a friend down the block =)07:12
cafuego_glick: Or just dump a file in /etc/cron.*07:12
jgrieves_ok i'm not giving up on this GDM issue :)07:12
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johnnyhmm..07:12
johnnyhttp://pastebin.com/39313407:13
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jgrieves_cafuego_ I think you were helping me a couple of days ago07:13
glicki have to reinstall my system from scatch :(07:13
Hendricjrattner1, told yah.. :) on the monitor auto detction it allows you to select resolutions.. try it.07:13
glickthis blows07:13
cjhcjhcjhplease help me get started...the base is installed but nothing else *I think*07:13
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tritiumWhy, glick ?07:13
cafuego_jgrieves_: Indeed07:13
jrattner1Hendric, i did that I wonder why it picked this instead of 1440x900 like i told it07:13
jgrieves_cafuego_ I still can't figure it out :)07:13
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jgrieves_cafuego_ for the life of me, i can't make gdm load X on a user basis07:13
cajcartercan someone help me with ubuntu v 5.04 plz?07:13
glicktritium, i think the upgrade messed up my system some how firstly, upgrading it was a nightmare of broken dependancies and now its slow as hell for some reason07:13
twokneeHendric under my non prerelease installation of breezy there were no questions asked regarding resolution however i was able to flip through a few using the standard toggles.07:14
meepusHello, can you guys send me the name of the package for ATI support again please?07:14
cafuego_jgrieves_: Hold on. "gdm load X" does not compute.07:14
tritium!tell meepus about ati07:14
LaserLineBut howcome on my hoary, I had the Java1.5 package and now it's not even on the backports etc... why does Sun care? I can install it on windows for free, so why not linux ?07:14
jgrieves_cafuego_ ok let me start07:14
meepusthanks tritium07:14
tristanmikecajcarter, just ask your question and if someone can, they will07:14
tritiumglick, that's not normal...07:14
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twokneeSun did not charge me to download their java.  i'm a home user though.07:15
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deFryskLaserLine, you can install it , using the instructions07:15
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(cjhcjhcjh/#ubuntu) wickedpuppy I have given 2gb to ubuntu...should be ok for a basic X system, no?07:26
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(LaserLine/#ubuntu) anthony I'll try to continue ?07:26
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(LaserLine/#ubuntu) I can always remove the package :-)07:26
(wickedpuppy/#ubuntu) ah hmms ... space is fine but it will be very slow07:26
(deFrysk/#ubuntu) LaserLine, fakeroot make blah07:26
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(cjhcjhcjh/#ubuntu) wickedpuppy shame, I was hoping it would be better than the existing win9807:27
(jrattner1/#ubuntu) Hendric, could you look at http://pastebin.com/393142 and tell me if you can see any reason why its kicking into 1024 mode if your not busy07:27
shuvebis there a git package available for ubuntu?07:27
(wickedpuppy/#ubuntu) cjhcjhcjh, lol win98 ? second edition ?? i like that one..07:27
(keffynd/#ubuntu) how can I remove hardware (ie: sondcard) and reinstall it cleanly?07:27
(tritium/#ubuntu) yes, shuveb07:27
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shuvebthere is a git package but, it seeme to be some file manager07:27
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anthonyLaserLine: You sure you have a 64-bit AMD processor?07:28
shuvebtritium, i mean the SCM software07:28
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cjhcjhcjhwickedpuppy does everything I need. just internet. would be nice to use linux on it.07:28
tritiumshuveb, I'm not familiar with it07:28
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cafuego_jgrieves_: If a user needs a custom X configuration, make their .xsession file spawn that X via the startx command (to display :1) . *that* will start a new, custom X on tty8 (it will switch) and then that will process the user's .xsession *again*. This time, $DISPLAY is set to something containing :1, Make sure that if this is the case, gnome (or some other wm) is started. Do *not* make it start yet another X instance, becuas it w07:28
calccjhcjhcjh: 2gb not counting swap should be plenty07:28
shuvebtritium, ok, thanks07:28
cajcarteranyone?07:28
deFryskkeffynd, is does not need to be (re)installed it needs to be detected07:28
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: how does the boot disk ask for medium?07:28
disasmany reason these two packages are held back? should I not try to force them? libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-v4l207:28
cjhcjhcjhCan anyone tell me how to manually tell ubuntu to install all the basic apps, as it seems to have failed to do that on install07:28
cjhcjhcjhrazor-x no floppy either07:28
jgrieves_cafuego_ ok, then in .xsessions specify gnome-session --display :1 ?07:28
naliothcjhcjhcjh: install "ubuntu-desktop"07:28
cafuego_cjhcjhcjh: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:29
cjhcjhcjhrazor-x i spoke to you yesterday about this one. I got as far as the base system07:29
cafuego_jgrieves_: SOmehting like that, yes.07:29
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SPCcrowis there anyway to enable root in ubuntu07:29
tritium!tell SPCcrow about rootsudo07:29
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disasmSPCcrow: yeah, its recommended against07:29
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fangorioushere's something interesting. I can go to Actions->Play Media, select a .m4a file, and it plays. it seems to be unable to parse the metadata though. I wonder if that's why scanning my configured folders doesn't add them to the collection07:29
cafuego_SPCcrow: There is, but you don't need it. Even if you think you do.07:30
tritiumagreed07:30
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calcat worst you can do sudo su -07:30
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calcwhich gives you root with no ability to login directly as root :)07:30
kascheiSo anyway, I have an incorrect version of libc6, giving me lots of "held back" packages; almost everything (including apt itself) depends on this.  How do I upgrade to the right version? this is the current error: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1307:30
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jrattner1fangorious, I had this same problem,  I was forced to convert my collection to mp307:30
cafuego_calc: 'sudo -s' will do just fine.07:30
tritiumglick, did you see the ubuntu ports project?07:30
jrattner1Hendric, any clue07:30
LaserLinedeFrysk What ?07:30
vbgun1how do you identify yourself to IRC? I am trying /nick vbgunz identify password07:30
SPCcrowcafuego_: just used to using Slackware where some tasks require root priv.07:30
glicktritium, ubuntu has a sparc port now?07:31
uido i have to use hoary repositories in breezy or what do i use?07:31
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calccafuego_: ah07:31
vbgun1is that how you do it? how to identify myself?07:31
cafuego_SPCcrow: Just run 'sudo -s' for a root shell.07:31
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tritiumglick, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ <-- look here07:31
naliothui: see /topic07:31
disasmjust out of curiosity, with the root account disabled, how do you get into the recovery mode when something is broken?07:31
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tritiumglick, scroll down and you'll see some info07:31
cjhcjhcjhthe sudo command is working...guess it will take a few hours, eh?07:31
jgrieves_cafuego_ does GDM load gnome up in some other script07:31
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jgrieves_i dont even have a .xsessionf ile righ tnow07:31
jgrieves_cafuego_ for some of my users07:31
glickthanks07:31
uinalioth: what do you mean?07:31
cafuego_jgrieves_: It probably uses the default Xsession from from /etc/somewhere07:31
fangoriousjrattner1, fortunately only about 50 files out of my nearly 3000 are currently .m4a, the rest are mp307:31
calccafuego_: seems not to completely reset the root environment, but probably does good enough07:31
uinalioth : what do you mean?07:31
jgrieves_cafuego_ ok07:31
tritiumglick, :)07:31
zaxcan some one help me install real player 1007:31
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cafuego_calc: 'sudo -i' would.07:32
jrattner1fangorious, theres a tool called Jhymm that will convert them07:32
zaxRun the .bin file by typing "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin". Follow the prompts provided to finish installing the player.07:32
naliothui: the /topic is at the top of your irc window in whatever channel you are int07:32
jgrieves_cafuego_ great, this sounds feasible07:32
naliothui: type /topic07:32
cjhcjhcjhIs the package "ubuntu-desktop" the entire base system?07:32
calccafuego_: also -s gives the benefit of allowing x apps to run directly :)07:32
cafuego_calc: yep07:32
zaxi try but it said error while loading the shared librarys07:32
scottIm trying to install a codec for xmms so I can play wma files but dont know what im doing can anybody help07:32
jgrieves_cafuego_ will gnome close the X session aftewards?  It seems like it does this automatically07:32
tritiumcjhcjhcjh, no, in fact, it's just a meta-package07:32
fangoriousI'm getting a GPG error when running 'apt-get update' is there just a new key I need to install?07:32
cjhcjhcjhIs there a way to mount an iso image?07:32
jrattner1Why is my Xserver unable to start in 1440x900 although it is properly configured07:32
fangorious(breezy)07:32
scottIm in a terminal and in the folder its extracted folder...07:32
cafuego_cjhcjhcjh: Yep.07:32
LaserLineit's a P4-3.0GHz EMT6407:32
deFryskLaserLine, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-blah.bin07:32
naliothubotu: tell scott about w32codecs07:33
kascheiHow do I resolve the following error? Upgrading from hoary to breezy I get "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13" whenever I try to install packages (as well as other broken dependencies)07:33
kascheiand apt-get install libc6 shows I have the most recent version07:33
naliothkaschei: i smell unofficial repos used07:33
cafuego_cjhcjhcjh: sudo mount -t iso966- -o loop,ro ./isofile /mnt/dir07:33
LaserLineanothony It's a P4-3.0Ghz EMT6407:33
jrattner1How Can it not find the mode ? (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name)07:33
cjhcjhcjhcafuego_ can I mount the iso (on my fat32) and then tell the install to get from there? (and HOW do I do that...learning ;-) )07:33
scottw32 codecs?   Thats not the one Im using will that let me play wma in xmms?07:33
cjhcjhcjhcaf ok doing that.07:33
weiersubotu: tell weiers about w32codecs07:33
naliothscott: w32codecs are for microcrap media07:33
scott=)07:34
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Hendricjrattner1, add it manually on your xorg.conf ... if you get an error.. that means driver can't handle it.07:34
calcLaserLine: are you running the amd64 ubuntu dist?07:34
jrattner1Hendric, but it previouslly ran in 1440x900 in hoary07:34
hellionanyone know how to configure kaffeine for  ess.tv?07:34
LaserLineCalc yes.07:34
hellionNSV streams?07:34
Hendricjrattner1, then just add it manually...07:35
scottnalioth:  Where can I get it?07:35
calcLaserLine: hmm that is strange then, i don't use java so haven't tried setting it up myself07:35
naliothkaschei: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin, please07:35
naliothscott: i thougt ubotu just msg'd you07:35
LaserLineanthony If I install the Java on an Athlon using the K7 kernel, what Java bin should I d/l ?07:35
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glickeurope is bitchin because they want to control part of the internet too07:35
LaserLinecalc07:35
jrattner1Hendric, its in there already, what do you mean by add it manually, under display default depth is 1440x90007:35
anthonyLaserLine: If you are running a P4 then you should get the i586 package, I think that's the problem.07:35
naliothubotu: tell LaserLine about java07:35
glickbitchin cause the US controls the entire internet07:35
anthonyLaserLine: That I have no idea.07:35
LaserLinecalc I finished making, and installing07:35
SPCcrowQOTD: What gui do you use?07:35
joelitoGot the news of the new ports?07:35
LaserLineanthony What command should I type to see if I suceeded with the installation ?07:36
anthonyLaserLine java -version07:36
calcanthony: apparently he has one of the new p4's which is amd64 arch (eg 5x1 6xx 8xx)07:36
joelitoCan't wait to try the sparc one07:36
glickhere is my answer to Europe: when you create some revolutionary  new technology that changes the world and humanity forever, you can control it07:36
anthonycalc: Oh ok I see.07:36
LaserLineanthony I still see 1.4.2. GIJ07:36
adiabaticglick: With apologies to Stroustrup, there are two types of countries: Countries that people bitch about, and countries that nobody ever goes to or thinks about07:36
uihow do change my screen resolution in breezy?07:36
naliothubotu: tell ui about fixres07:36
Hendricjrattner1, try changing resolutions.. can select 1440???07:36
Hendricjrattner1, try changing resolutions.. can u select 1440???07:37
anthonyLaserLine: Try "sudo update-alternatives --config java", then choose the number 3, that should be the one say j2re1.5 blah blah.07:37
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topyliglick: please keep it a bit more on topic. this is not #international-politics07:37
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jrattner1Hendric, no it doesnt allow me too, would you mind taking a look at my xorg.conf I know its hassle...07:37
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scottnalioth:  He did... thanks07:37
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johnnythanks peeps07:37
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johnnyi'm outtie07:37
cjhcjhcjhHow do I mount the 1st partition (fat32)?07:37
Hendricjrattner1, use the paste bin07:37
naliothubotu: tell cjhcjhcjh about mountwindows07:37
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jrattner1Hendric, http://pastebin.com/39315407:37
Hendricjrattner1, opening..07:37
LaserLineanthony - you the man !07:38
glicktritium, the ubuntu sparc port looks promissing but its too new, i need something true tested and constantly updated fixes and stuff, either debian or freebsd07:38
tritiumglick, okay, it was just an idea07:38
anthonyLaserLine: Glad it worked.07:38
vbgun1***trying to login...07:38
LaserLineanothony how can I get the firefox extension?07:38
cjhcjhcjhman is not working here...I am in the dark...just need to get started. I have the iso on fat32, want to mount the fat32 so I can then mount the iso to install the rest from there...please help with commands to do that07:38
travellerhm...how smooth is it to upgrade from hoary to breezy?? are there any "gotchas" that one should be aware of?07:38
Master-Chiefi dragged my gnome top panel to the side07:39
Master-Chiefand now it has huge icons07:39
Master-Chiefand i cant CLICK the panel to drag it back07:39
Master-Chiefhelp :)07:39
naliothtraveller: should be smooth as butter07:39
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travellernalioth: that's good to hear07:39
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Hendricjrattner1, i think the driver can't handle 24bits with 1440... try using 16bits07:39
travellerthanks07:39
anthonyLaserLine: I think that works for Firefox too, have you tried it?07:39
cjhcjhcjhHow do I mount the 1st partition (fat32)?07:39
deFryskMaster-Chief, rightclick the panet >properties > top or bottom07:39
deFryskpanel*07:39
jrattner1Hendric, so you mean set the default depth to 16 bits?07:39
naliothMaster-Chief: no context clicking at all?07:39
Master-ChiefdeFrysk, i cant rick click the panel07:40
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Master-Chiefnalioth, no07:40
jrattner1Hendric, ideally i want to install the ATI drivers if they will work07:40
deFryskMaster-Chief, on an empty spot on the panel07:40
Hendricjrattner1, yes.. since you are not using an ATI driver..07:40
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Master-ChiefdeFrysk, no empty spot07:40
Master-Chieficons are huge07:40
Master-Chiefand extend off screen07:40
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Hendricjrattner1, if you can get it working with ATI drivers... then you will not be having problems07:40
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cjhcjhcjhcan someone please give me the command to mount the first fat32 partition so I can access it07:40
HendricBBL07:40
naliothMaster-Chief: close some programs07:40
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naliothcjhcjhcjh: ubotu didnt msg you?07:41
meepushey, I managed to install the fglrx package, but when i run fglrxinfo, it doesn't display my vendor string or renderer string correctly07:41
Master-Chiefnalioth, they are shortcuts07:41
Master-Chiefthis is the TOP panel07:41
mshadeanyone know if gam_server is fixed in the new release?07:41
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meepusit says mesa project under vendor, and mesa glx indirect under renderer07:41
cjhcjhcjhnaolith not AFAIK but then I dont know how to access messages or anything07:41
fangoriousI'm seeing a GPG error for us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates when I apt-get update07:41
deFryskwould someone get rid of Nali0ths_dog ? ist a pain for autocompletin of nicks07:41
meepusas opposed to ATI Technologies and my Radeon07:41
jrattner1Hendric, when I say ATI drivers I mean the binary ATI drivers.. using flgx or something like that... in the mean time i want a VESA display incase I mess it up07:41
naliothMaster-Chief: so jettison one so you can click07:41
meepushow can I get my ATI drivers installed07:42
anthonyLaserLine: If you go to "http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=97", and the applet loads then that means it has worked.07:42
meepussince it obviously just didn't work installing that package07:42
tritiumdeFrysk, but nalioth's dog is soo cute...07:42
bimberiMaster-Chief: run gconf-editor in a terminal, apps -> panel -> toplevels -> top_panel, change orientation to "top"07:42
zaxhas anyone installed real player 1007:42
deFrysktritium, cute but a pain ;p07:42
AraviI've got both the Universe and Multiverse repositories added, yet can't resolve dependencies for some packages.07:42
AraviAny idea why?07:42
cjhcjhcjhnaolith also "mountwindows" command not recognised! can&t I just use mount with the right syntax? ...and what is the syntax to mount a fat32 vol?07:42
XenthroHi I was wondering how i can I maximize my repositories in synaptic to include just about every package ever released?07:43
tritiumdeFrysk, please don't shoot him, daddy...I know he has rabies, but he's never bitten me07:43
deFrysk:D07:43
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Xenthrowhen i search07:43
satafterhi just read about about the ubuntu fund for 10million$, hope thats enough to keep it around for along time07:43
naliothcjhcjhcjh: watch the channel quickly (the data will fly by)07:43
nalioth!mountwindows07:43
ubotuit has been said that mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)07:43
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seethrumeepus: you have to edit xorg.conf07:43
tritiumnalioth, deFrysk wants to off your dog07:43
kascheiHere is my problem: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/305907:43
uihow do i listen to mp3 in  breezy?07:43
jgrieves_what group does a user have to be to run xinit07:43
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cjhcjhcjhnaolith great but how do I get this mountwindows?07:44
Master-Chiefbimberi, it says top07:44
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meepusseethru, where is that file located, and what do I need to edit?07:44
deFrysk!tell ui about restricted formats07:44
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naliothy'all happy? dog-haters07:44
Xenthroui: download xmms07:44
kaschei!tell me about restricted formats07:44
tritiumjgrieves_, I'll bet the gdm group can07:44
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jgrieves_tritium, good idea07:45
anthonymeepus: The way it worked for me is... "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", then look for line 74 where it says "Driver: "ati"", change that to "fglrx", save, and restart X.07:45
Master-Chiefshit07:45
Master-Chiefhad to delete my whole panel07:45
jgrieves_though gdm runs some crud as root...07:45
bimberiMaster-Chief: hm, that has worked for me, oh well07:45
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seethrumeepus: anthony's got it07:45
kascheiPlease help me with dist-upgrade and dependencies, details here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/305907:45
seethrumeepus: he beat me to it07:45
meepusanthony: I opened that file, and it contains nothing07:46
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seethrumeepus: uh....there is no way it contains nothing if you're in gnome...07:46
tritiumkaschei, you don't have the main repo listed07:46
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seethrumeepus: case-sensitive07:46
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meepus...should I just -rm the package and reinstall it and try again?07:46
SPCcrowis there a Ubuntu package that install wlanctl-ng?07:46
kascheitritium: duhhhhhh my brain07:46
seethrumeepus: no, it won't do this part for you07:47
anthonymeepus: You sure it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf? It worked for me.07:47
seethrumeepus: make sure to type what anthony said to type EXACTLY07:47
tritiumkaschei, :)07:47
Master-Chiefbimberi, np07:47
meepusI copied it exactly07:47
meepusthe X was capitalized and all.07:47
cjhcjhcjhI now have the iso mounted. How do I tell apt-get to get the stuff from that folder?07:47
anthonyBrb dinner!07:47
kascheiseriously I have stared at that for about fifteen minutes without noticing07:47
pgwhow can I change Gnome's primary screen (i.e. the one where the panels are displayed in ubuntu) when using nvidia twinview?07:48
kascheithe "main restricted" threw me I guess07:48
seethrumeepus: try again, cause if that file is empty you've got larger problems than the driver not loading07:48
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erirlaris universe and multiuniverse unstable to use?07:48
cjhcjhcjhHow to make this machine to apt-get from /mnt/isocd ? How to configure the apt-get to use that source?07:48
tritiumno, erirlar07:48
budluva_anyone here an admin for ubuntu forums? it seems i've forgotten my password, and the email i enter to reset my password is wrong07:49
naliotherirlar: universe and multiverse are perfectly fine07:49
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meepusseethru: -_- I used Ls instead of 1s07:49
meepusXll07:49
meepusinstead of X1107:49
erirlarok, thanks guys07:49
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SPCcrownight07:49
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seethrumeepus: ok, now change ati to fglrx and restart x (ctrl-alt-backspace)07:49
cjhcjhcjhapt-get is currently getting files from the net...how do I tell it to get the source from /mnt/isocd (which is the ubuntu cd)?07:49
meepusseethru: what line was that again?07:50
seethrumeepus: around 7107:50
twokneeseethru if a new kernel is released or an updated gnome will ubuntu revert to console on boot ?07:50
twokneerelating to fglrx07:50
meepusseethru on line 66 I see Driver "ati"07:50
seethrutwoknee: if you install a new kernel you've got to reinstall the driver07:50
seethrumeepus: ok, change that07:50
cjhcjhcjhHelp please; how to set the source of applicatins to /mnt/isocd (which is the ubuntu CD)?07:51
meepusalright, done, wish me luck!07:51
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seethrucjhcjhcjh: if you installed from cd it should already be in your sources07:51
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tritiumcjhcjhcjh, if it's an official CD, a dialog box should pop up when you insert it, and it should ask you if you want to use it to install packages?07:52
cjhcjhcjhseethru I didnt - I have no cd rom; I have installed the base system over the net07:52
cjhcjhcjhtritium see above07:52
tritiumyeah, just noticed, sorry07:52
cjhcjhcjhnp07:52
QMarioWhat does this error mean?07:52
QMarioperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:07:52
QMario        LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en_US:en",07:52
QMario07:52
tritiumQMario, no pasting please07:52
QMarioLC_ALL = (unset),07:52
QMario        LANG = "en_US"07:52
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cafuego_woohoo!07:53
cjhcjhcjhI have the core installed but no apps; I have now managed to mount the iso image; I want to apt-get the X system from that iso image. If I do apt-get now, it starts to download via the net. I want to reconfigure it to get the packages from /mnt/isocd07:53
meepusseethru: fglrxinfo now reports the correct videocard, but I have less screen resolution options now than I did with the default driver07:53
bimbericjhcjhcjh: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out all lines except the "deb cdrom" line, then apt-get update and retry07:53
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felonhi07:53
tritiumheh, cafuego_07:53
cjhcjhcjhbimberi its not a cdrom, its an iso on fat32 which I have mounted07:53
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twokneeso lets say i'm using fglrx and it autoinstalls the kernel.  i reboot and will i have a radeon driver since fglrx is not the default ?07:54
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seethrumeepus: you'll have to play with the monitor settings in xorg.conf then07:54
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scottNow that I downloaded the w3codec, what do I do with it?07:54
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^john^hi all07:54
bimbericjhcjhcjh: sorry, that's new territory for me07:55
scottI mean w32codec07:55
felonis there a list of good linux programs?07:55
QMarioHello ^john^!!! :)07:55
naliothscott: open a terminal where that file is, and "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"07:55
tritiumno, twoknee.  Kernel updates should also come with updates to linux-restricted-modules, which include the fglrx modules07:55
QMarioSorry #UBUNTU. :'(07:55
felonI always see websites for the best windows prgorams07:55
naliothubotu: tell felon about equivalents07:55
twokneethank you07:55
scottnalioth: thanks07:55
cjhcjhcjhbimberi np thanks anyway - at least you pointed me to the right file; I will have a look at it07:55
^john^linux is not cool!!!!!!07:55
pioneerhow do i get totem to save preferances i change? i change audio from ac3 passthrough to stereo but it wont stay07:55
^john^red:lolllllz07:55
QMarioJohn, what?!07:55
felonwhat are quivalents07:55
seethru^john^: durr gtfo07:55
tritiumwhat's the problem, ^john^ ?07:55
felonequivalents07:55
naliothfelon: go visit the URL in the msg07:56
^john^any1 ctc?07:56
felonthanks07:56
meepusseethru: I see many different modes for may different 'depth' settings.  Do you know what 'depth' stands for?  I've never seen that before.07:56
QMarioWhat is ctc?07:56
disasmwhats the easiest way to get rid of all the gnome stuff after adding xubuntu-desktop?07:56
^john^how can i pm??07:56
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scottnalioth: and thats it?  Now xmms will play wma files?07:56
^john^how can i pm a another people?07:56
^john^fuck07:56
QMarioWrong person nalioth.07:56
QMarioAt least "he" went away.07:56
naliothsorry folks07:56
zaxcreating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5' to `/usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.5': Permission denied07:56
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seethrumeepus: depth = colors07:57
QMarioIt's okay.07:57
linuxgeek2"/msg <nickname> message"07:57
zaxwhy did it deny i thought i am admin07:57
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QMarioI bet he's the same person.07:57
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felonWhat is ubotu?07:57
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meepusseethru: total colors?  Cause the highest number I see is 24 ^^;07:57
QMario!Ubotu07:57
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:57
seethruzax: sudo that command07:57
seethrumeepus: 24bit color for example07:57
TobyKaahh so this is where it's at! I've been on the wrong server :-)07:57
twokneedoes anyone know of a good newsreader that is gui based and has good support for unencoding yenc multipart binaries ?07:57
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jrattnerIf using an ATI card, is it recomended to use the ATI driver, or use the binary one that flgx or something like that?07:57
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naliothtwoknee: pan07:57
QMarioTritium, is that a spambot you banned?07:57
twokneeis that the best ?07:58
tritiumQMario, don't think so.07:58
QMarioWho was that then?07:58
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meepusseethru: ah, so if I just add a resolution in quotes, save the conf, and go to screen resolutions in gnome, I will be able to select it?07:58
seethrujrattner: if you want acceleration, use the binary07:58
tritiumJust a naughty little boy07:58
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jrattnerHendric: Damn card wont work if I use ATI so i'm forced to use VESA07:58
naliothQMario: an offtopic poster07:58
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seethrumeepus: you'll have to restart x again07:58
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jrattnerseethru: is the process the same as it was in hoary07:58
scottNalioth: XMMS still wont play WMA files... is there anything else I need to do?07:58
meepusseethru: but otherwise, yes?07:58
QMarioHello fellow Q!!! :)07:58
seethrujrattner: yes07:58
naliothscott: dont play wma files07:58
seethrumeepus: it should, yes07:58
Q_ContinuumAny ideas how long until the Breezy DVD installer is ready?07:59
bimberiQMario: I got a zillion locale messages like your (controversial) paste during upgrade, didn't seem to affect much though, once the locales package was configured they stopped07:59
Q_Continuumhello Q!07:59
twokneescott look at restricted formats in the wiki07:59
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scottwhys that?07:59
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twokneebecause there is all the information you need to know08:00
naliothscott: b/c microsoft media is very closed source08:00
Q_Continuumooooo local mirror :D08:00
cjhcjhcjhHow do I make the apt sources.list point to a file folder instead of the ftp address?08:00
QMarioOkay bimberi. I just wanted to see if something was wrong with my upgrade. :)08:00
C-Keenmoin08:00
naliothscott: and some of it won't play no matter what you do08:00
scottThen what can I use to convert it to mp3?08:00
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scottI was retarded and ripped most of  my cds to WMA when I was using windows08:00
doogluscjhcjhcjh: something like: "deb file:/media/iso/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted" will do it08:01
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cjhcjhcjhdooglus thanks trying08:01
naliothscott: something nasty in windows, i presume08:01
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naliothscott: try www.freewarehome.com08:01
cafuego_scott: Are the WMA's compressed?08:01
tritiumscott, converting from one lossy format to another is a bad idea08:01
Q_Continuumautomagically08:01
cafuego_scott: (iTunes in windows will autoconvert 'em, btw)08:01
tritiumscott, unless you don't care about the quality degradation08:01
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scotthmm, guess ill move them all to spare laptop and convert em in windows =(08:02
timmizI want to disable my mouseTouchpad, how do i check if i have a synaptics touchpad?08:02
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scotttritium: quality on them is very good, doubt it would be problem08:02
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miksui have heard of some 'encrypted port'  for tcp/udp connections. does such exist and what port is it , if so?08:03
cafuego_Yee, that's not at all a spambot hostmask <heh>08:03
scottcafuego_: I dont know...  I just ripped them with windows media player from CD08:03
tritiumscott, quality degrades each time you perform lossy compression08:03
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d3vicehi08:03
cafuego_miksu: Um, no.08:03
scotttritium:  lossy?08:03
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tritiumscott, yes.  Information is thrown away in the compression process.08:03
d3viceis there a win32 package on synaptic for 5.10 ?08:03
naliothscott: join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion on lossy and nonlossy formats08:03
d3vicei mean... win32 codecs08:04
cafuego_miksu: there is ssl/tls, but that is implemented on a per-application basis.08:04
naliothd3vice: yes. /msg ubotu w32codecs08:04
scotttritium:  ahh ok... thanks for all of your help everybody08:04
kascheiI'd like to warn everyone that the utah.edu mirror is old, use a different mirror08:04
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timmizanyone know how to check what kinda mousepad is on ubunut, i need to know if its synaptics or note, I looked in xorg.conf and doesnt show anything regarding mousepad08:04
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rathmahy all!!!08:05
bimberiQ_Continuum: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/08:05
cafuego_tritium: *!oieiiekw@193.226.47.20408:05
felonwhats the best firewall for ubuntu?08:05
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glickhey what can i do i have a 40 gigs of unorganized mp3 files08:05
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glickis there any hope of getting it into some order?08:05
cafuego_felon: if you're not running any services, you won't need a firewall :-)08:05
naliothfelon: a firewall is not necessary for ubuntu08:05
glickso i can find what songs i want?08:05
felonreally?08:05
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naliothfelon: this isnt windows08:05
felonim running GAIM, IRC, FIREFOX08:06
felonlol08:06
felonnice08:06
d3vicenalioth, thx08:06
cafuego_tritium: *whee!*08:06
felonso i dont need a spyware scaner or virus scanner?08:06
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felonI <3 Ubuntu08:06
tritiumcafuego_, you realize we're going to leave you here one night with ops, right?08:06
cafuego_felon: Only if you're handling mail for wondiws clients.08:06
naliothfelon: not unless you email your windows using grandmother and want to protect her08:06
glickhow do you keep massive mp3 collections sorted?08:06
felonROFL this is awesoem08:06
dooglusmiksu: are you talking about ssh connections?08:06
rathmamy sources list not work.... plt help me:) i dont install any programs08:06
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rathmaplz:)08:06
tritiumfelon, your enthusiasm rocks!08:07
naliothrathma: it works. the servers are overloaded atm08:07
felonSo no need for Bastile?08:07
cafuego_tritium: As long as you realise you'll be coming back to a ransacked channel with graffiti and vomit stains all over ;-)08:07
tritiumhah!08:07
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cafuego_felon: If you're just running a desktop box, nope.08:07
naliothfelon: no need for anything with a default install08:07
syndLet me takeover the channel ;)08:07
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cafuego_felon: Just install &amp; enjoy.08:07
flyfreehello:008:07
felon&ampl?08:07
felon&amp;08:07
cafuego_sorry, too much php :-)08:07
felonthis is my first time running a linux machine08:07
rathmanalioth, where the download extra repos list?08:07
naliothfelon: there is a lot to unlearn08:08
felonlol08:08
naliothrathma: /msg ubotu sources08:08
pioneerhow can i get totem-xine to save preferances? they keep switching back after i set them08:08
tritiumyou must unlearn what you have learned...08:08
cjhcjhcjhHelp I have changed sources to point to an iso image of the install cd but when I try to apt-get it cannot find the packages. maybe it needs to point to a subdir or something?08:08
rathma /msg ubotu sources08:08
rathmanalioth, ?08:09
zaxhow do i install a rpm it keeps saying archilve not valid08:09
tritiumrathma, remove the leading space there08:09
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naliothrathma: you left a space in between the / and the left side of your text entry box08:09
tritiumzax, why are you installing an rpm?08:09
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: you need to mount the iso image first.  did you do that?08:09
cjhcjhcjhdooglus yes, I can see the contents under /mnt/isocd08:10
zaxit says u are supposed to to get real player to install08:10
zaxcompat-libstdc++08:10
cafuego_zax: Do not install an rpm!08:10
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cafuego_!find helixplayer08:10
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tritiumwhat says that, zax?  What's the "it" you're referring to?08:10
zaxwhen you try to extract it08:10
felonwinamp works with linux?08:11
zaxwith archive manager08:11
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: then the path you need to put in your sources.list is just /mnt/isocd/ubuntu08:11
tritiumfelon, xmms or beep media player look just like it08:11
cafuego_felon: No, but beep-media-player is pretty much identical.08:11
glickwith xmms why would u wanna run winamp08:11
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feloncool08:11
doogluscjhcjhcjh: or /mnt/isocd - that's the same place I think08:11
icarus!tell icarus about tvtime08:11
felonI love linux08:11
felonbut i have much to learn08:11
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felonhaha this is so awesome08:11
tritiumfelon, :)08:11
aftertaffelon:  totally :)08:11
doogluscjhcjhcjh: so it's "deb file:/mnt/isocd/ breezy main restricted" (without the double quotes)08:12
cafuego_!test08:12
ubotuPassed.08:12
zaxso how do i get those libraries in the system08:12
cafuego_then answer my search!08:12
icarushi all, is anyone here using tvtime with an ati card?08:12
tritiumgood to test your bot after you punch it08:12
zaxso i can install realplayer1008:12
felongeeze08:12
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doogluszax: I wouldn't advise it08:12
feloni want to setup my desktop and make it nice08:12
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'helixplayer' returned no results.08:12
cafuego_tritium: If I punch it just right, the test stalls..08:12
cafuego_okay then08:12
zaxwhat is it you dont advice08:12
starscalling/me sighs08:12
doogluszax: I don't advise installing anything from real.com.  their apps are horrible.08:13
starscalling-/ + action darn it08:13
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doogluszax: and unneccesary08:13
zaxi know they are crap , but i like to listen to straming audio08:13
icarus!tell icarus about skype08:13
doogluszax: beep-media-player plays streaming audio, so does mplayer08:13
cafuego_zax: I recommend you find a .deb for helixplayer and use that instead.08:13
zaxwhat is a .deb08:14
tritium!info helix-player08:14
cafuego_zax: And yes, mplayer supports realaudio with the right codecs.08:14
ubotuhelix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10260 kB08:14
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tritiumzax, it's the debian package format, similar (but superior) to .rpm08:14
cafuego_duh, a hyphen :-)08:14
zaxhmmm, so I should install mplayer and start from there08:14
glickduring ubuntu installation can i specify the 686 kernel?08:14
cafuego_... and not on amd64 :-(08:14
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naliothubotu: tell zax about cli08:14
cafuego_glick: No. you add it afterwards (and reboot)08:15
dooglus"helix-player - The Helix Community's open source media player"08:15
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glickcafuego, dont you think that needs to be fixed?08:15
angryfixwhat file(s) do I need to edit to keep X windows from starting during boot?08:15
angryfixis there a master list of boot programs?08:15
cafuego_glick: No, I don't have a problem with it.08:15
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tritiumangryfix, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start08:16
cafuego_glick: I wasn't silly enough to buy *intel* hardware08:16
angryfixtritium: thanks08:16
dooglusangryfix: angryfix do this: sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/{S13,K01}gdm08:16
cjhcjhcjhThanks all - I needed the syntax in "deb" not  "deb src"...is now installing ubuntu-desktop, hurrah. Do I need to apt-get other stuff as well?08:16
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glickcafuego, ?08:16
tritiumI'd recommend the update-rc.d approach instead08:16
glickwhat does that mean?08:16
cjhcjhcjhie to get the "normal" system set up08:16
icarus!tell icarus about mplayer08:16
Hmmmmguys, im on hoary, i want to upgrade to breezy. what's the smoothest way to go about it?08:16
ktogiasY08:16
glickHmmmm, reinstall08:16
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tritium!tell Hmmmm about breezy08:17
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eyequeueHmmmm:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:17
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topyliHmmmm: change your hoary sources.list to breezy, then do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and apt-get dist-upgrade08:17
angryfixdooglus: will that command be permanent?08:18
dooglusangryfix: yes.08:18
Hmmmmtopyli, anyone done it with success?08:18
angryfixok, perfect08:18
tritiumangryfix, dooglus use update-rc.d over mv08:18
dooglusangryfix: what it does it removes gdm from runlevel 2, but leaves it in runlevel 3.08:18
topyliHmmmm: i've done it on a couple of machines08:18
dooglustritium: why?08:18
Ky0tIkhmm08:19
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Ky0tIkis something up with the repos?08:19
tritiumdooglus, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start  (it's the "one true way")08:19
Hmmmmtopyli, any idea what the size of the download is?08:19
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Ky0tIki got some weird errors08:19
topyliHmmmm: it's huge, every package will be upgraded08:19
dooglustritium: no really.  why?08:19
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tritiumdooglus, did you read the URL?08:19
cafuego_!dict drake08:19
ubotuDictionary 'drake' (2 shown): English explorer and admiral who was the first Englishman to circumnavigate the globe and who helped to defeat the Spanish Armada (1540-1596) ;; adult male of a wild or domestic duck.08:19
yapycckyhello did anyone here never tryied MTRR control?08:19
Hmmmmah ok. then maybe i should download the DVD itself08:19
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Ky0tIki know its no pasting i nhere08:19
dooglustritium: yes.08:19
Ky0tIkin here*,  but check this out W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:20
cafuego_well, you learn something quack every day.08:20
Ky0tIknever have seen that til today08:20
yapycckyI'm trying to use it but i dunno why i cant write changes on /proc/mtrr08:20
tritiumdooglus, then why are you asking me?08:20
Hmmmmis the breezy final dvd out yet?08:20
eyequeueKy0tIk:  sudo apt-get update08:20
cafuego_Hmmmm: Why don't you check the downlaod site and see?08:20
Ky0tIkeyequeue thats what gave me the error08:20
eyequeueKy0tIk:  yes, rerun the command08:20
dooglustritium: all it says is it's the "one true way".  it doesn't explain why it's better to use a complex shell script than to use a simple 'mv' command.08:21
eyequeueKy0tIk:  mirrors are quite bogged down today08:21
dooglussorry, Perl script.08:21
angryfixtritium: so do 'update-rd.d /etc/rc2.d/{S13,K01}gdm' ?08:21
tritiumdooglus, I'm just presenting the preferred method.  Do as you choose08:21
Ky0tIkeyequeue, now it seems to be working, i thought it meant my /var/lib  stuff was messed up08:21
dooglusangryfix: no, just what I typed.08:22
bozzui upgraded from brezy preview to brezy and i lost serpentine. trying to reinstall it i receive a dependecy error related to python2-gnome-extra. what could be the problem?08:22
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dohtem`ubuntuhey guys08:22
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cafuego_Can I note that the first US download mirror on the breezy release page is broken?08:22
dooglusangryfix: if you want to use the update.rc-d thing instead, hang on and I'll look up the usage.08:22
Ky0tIkbozzu, i upgraded as well, and i didnt lose serpentine :S08:22
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tritiumangryfix, no, just like the URL suggests, but use gdm rather than ?dm08:23
eyequeueKy0tIk:  *if* your /var partition ever fills up.you'll get similar errors too.  today it just means that repo timed out without an answer08:23
dohtem`ubuntuI have got the Microsoft Elite bluetooth mouse and keyboard, how I get both of them working in Ubuntu?08:23
jgrieves_xinit -display :1 -d 2408:23
jgrieves_ if this produces no errors what can i assume?08:23
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Ky0tIkeyequeue my / partition which var is a part of is very far from being filled up08:23
bozzuKy0tIk, can you send me your sources.list?08:23
dooglustritium: it seems that update-rc.d doesn't work if the package is already installed...08:23
Ky0tIkbozzu sure08:24
dooglussudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 2 .08:24
Ky0tIkill pm it to ya08:24
dooglus System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist.08:24
Ky0tIkhang on a sec08:24
aftertafdooglus:  what do you want to do with init.d ?08:24
eyequeueKy0tIk:  heh, if ever / fills up, apt will be the least of your worries :)08:24
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rathma!info sources08:24
tritiumdooglus, I think he wants to stop it...08:24
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cafuego_tritium: *!uvwegh@85.100.201.24708:24
angryfixi just don't want it to boot08:24
eyequeuedooglus:  the -f switch is your friend then08:24
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aftertafdooglus:  use the force switch.   -f then remove08:24
yapycckyecho "base=0xE0000000 size=0x3E80000 type=write-combining" >| /proc/mtrr08:24
angryfixi mean, more correctly, I just don't want X to start with boot08:24
dooglustritium: right, I know, but I've already stopped mine... so I was trying to start it.08:24
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yapycckycat /proc/mtrr08:25
yapycckyreg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=108:25
aftertafupdate-rc.d -f initscript remove08:25
yapycckywhy?08:25
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dooglus-f is only for 'remove'08:25
eyequeuedooglus:  the -f switch is for while the /etc/init.d/foo file still exists08:25
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Ky0tIkeyequeue, i dont plan on my / filling up..  i use other partitions that are mounted in my /media/   and /home to download and install stuff to ;)08:25
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jgrieves_xinit -display :1 -d 2408:25
jgrieves_ is this valid, and if so, how can i see it on the screen08:25
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aftertafdooglus:  yep. you remove, then you add with your other comand.08:25
cafuego_tritium: botsnack08:25
yapycckyplease guys help me...08:25
aftertaflol08:25
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tritiumthanks, cafuego08:26
dooglusaftertaf: that involves messing with all the runlevels.  all we want to do is change the default one (level 2)08:26
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eyequeuetritium:  i don't know; is it bigger than a breadbox?08:26
dooglusmy 'mv' is much simpler...08:26
jgrieves_cafuego_ oh hey :)08:26
aftertafdooglus:  i use webmin ;)08:26
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tritiumheh, eyequeue08:26
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.08:26
dooglusaftertaf: ok.  I used to use sysv-rc-conf08:26
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dooglusthere are lots of ways of doing it, for sure.08:26
konra`breezy is nice :)08:27
tritiumdooglus' mv is much simpler, I agree.08:27
jgrieves_cafuego_ i hav eit so that the user picks an option fron Desktop menu and then that runs xinit which then searches for .xinitrc and .xserverrc08:27
aftertafnewb chooses one he understands most08:27
aftertafme == n00bish08:27
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konra`breezy is very nice :)08:27
konra`logins are VERY fast now08:27
konra`and umm08:27
jgrieves_cafuego_ but it just sits there with blank screen08:27
konra`lots of nice improvements08:27
EnsignRedshirteyequeue: Aarrrgghhh....08:27
dooglusangryfix: so:  sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 2 .08:27
dooglusargh.08:27
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dooglusno!08:27
Fanskapethmm anyone have problems using ndiswrapper in breezy?08:27
eyequeueEnsignRedshirt:    nice nick btw ;)08:28
dooglusangryfix: so:    sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/{S13,K01}gdm08:28
jgrieves_Fanskapet, it works like a charm for me08:28
tritiumangryfix, dooglus' mv really is just as effective, and it is easier, if you prefer08:28
EnsignRedshirtQuickie (making the transition from warty to breezy): evince is the standard pdf viewer for breezy?08:28
angryfixyeah, that sounds good. Thanks. I'm all for the simple solution while I learn more about linux.08:28
eyequeueEnsignRedshirt:  nod, i think it had some new features too, when they were deciding08:29
topyliEnsignRedshirt: it is08:29
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dooglusangryfix: if you really want to know what's going on, run this before you do anything:08:29
jgrieves_if I run xinit -display :1 how can i see it on the screen?08:29
dooglusls -l /etc/rc?.d/???gdm08:29
dooglusangryfix: you will see 7 links, for run levels 0 through 6.08:29
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EnsignRedshirtOK... just tweaking some software (non-Ubuntu) that runs a pdf viewer.08:29
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angryfixare the run levels like priority in windows?08:30
topylijgrieves_: the session should appear on vt 808:30
dooglusthe ones with 'S' are the levels which run gdm.  the ones with 'K' kill gdm.  gdm is 'X'...  (kindof)08:30
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jgrieves_topyli how can i "see" vt 8?08:30
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dooglusangryfix: no.  a runlevel is a set of services, basically.08:30
aftertafalt + F808:30
jgrieves_topyli thought it was tty8..08:30
angryfixok08:30
topylijgrieves_: ctrl-alt-f808:30
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cafuego_tritium: they're breeding08:31
tritiumyes they are08:31
dooglusyou can define levels like "in runlevel 4 I want apache and ssh to be running"08:31
eyequeuejgrieves_: alt-ctrl-(Fttynumberhere)08:31
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topylijgrieves_: oh, probably. i was thinking about virtual terminals08:31
jgrieves_im in cmware :)08:31
tritiumnalioth, let's give cafuego 29 in -unregged08:31
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jgrieves_wow08:31
jgrieves_vmware08:31
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angryfixI'll check that out dooglus08:31
cafuego_turkey and romania08:31
eyequeuejgrieves_: alt-ctrl- right or left arrow sometimes (or just alt?)08:32
jgrieves_eyequeue ctrl + alt + arrows does workspaces08:32
dooglusangryfix: if you look at the top of /etc/inittab, you'll see the "default runlevel"08:32
keffyndhow can I enable DMA on my DVD?08:32
eyequeuejgrieves_:  yes, but only in x :)  if cli i think you'll find it cycles vts08:32
keffynd!tell keffynd about DMA08:33
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eyequeuejgrieves_:  oops, no ctrl though08:33
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xfelonanyone willing to help a linux noob?08:33
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Hmmmmxfelon, shoot08:33
angryfixlooks like I need to wipe the dust off that How Linux Works book and get cracking08:33
aftertafthats why we're here xfelon :)08:33
jgrieves_eyequeue xinit -display :1 -d 2408:33
xfelonthanks08:33
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yapycckyguys i need a help, please08:33
xfeloni dont even know how to open a file08:33
jgrieves_then it just sits there08:34
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xfelonim in a terminal08:34
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aftertafyapyccky:  ask question08:34
xfelontrying to open the program TAR08:34
jgrieves_then after about 20 seconds it returns to the termianl08:34
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jgrieves_prompt08:34
xfeloni typed08:34
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xfelon"cd Desktop"08:34
xfelonthen "ls"08:34
xfelonand it shows08:34
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yapycckyaftertaf : im trying to set up mtrr to improve video quality08:34
jgrieves_what does that mean exactly?08:34
Fanskapetjgrieves_: hmm odd.. doesn't work for me.. i get a ip by dhclient though08:34
xfelontar0-1.15.1 and tar-1.15.1.tar.gz08:34
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zcat[1] tar xf foo.tar08:34
Fanskapetbut it won't let me surf or anything.08:34
jgrieves_?08:34
zcat[1] tar xzf foo.tgz08:34
Hmmmmwhat exactly do u want to do08:34
yapycckyaftertaf : but i dunno why result of "echo" doesnt appear on /proc/mtrr08:34
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aftertafyapyccky:  ah. too l33t for me :) i'm an informed noob08:34
dooglusxfelon: type "tar xf tar*.gz"08:34
Hmmmmcan u explain in one or 2 lines?08:34
Fanskapetdunno what's wrong.. even though i have the gateway as the wlan card.08:35
cafuego_xfelon: Why do you have a 'tar' tarball?08:35
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xfelonidk08:35
dooglusxfelon: heh08:35
yapycckyaftertaf : what do u mean? sorry but my english is not so good08:35
xfelonok i typed that08:35
Hmmmmxfelon, do u want to extract a tar file?08:35
dooglusyou must have downloaded it for some reason?08:35
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xfeloni want to install the program tar08:35
dooglusxfelon: it's already installed :)08:35
tritiumxfelon, tar should already be installed08:35
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cafuego_xfelon: it's already installed.08:35
xfelonoh08:35
xfelonso wtf08:36
xfelonlol08:36
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trigger_phhi..08:36
topylixfelon: you have already unzipped the tar.gz, so you just need to extract the tarball. you can do that in one step as well08:36
xfelonok how08:36
dooglusxfelon: just type "tar" and you'll see it complain that it wants more arguments08:36
keffyndDMA doesnt work on a DVD??08:36
cafuego_xfelon: If you want to extract a tarball, just double-click the file.08:36
zcat[1] _almost everything_ is already installed.. everything you're likely to need by default anyhow08:36
ht_man tar08:36
xfelonI dont see any tarbals08:37
trigger_phcan anyone please help me remove a startup command in a session? my pc doesn't make it past that to load metacity and others anymore08:37
topylixfelon: tar xzf blahblah.tar.gz. or, if you have a bzipped tarball, tar xjf blahblah.tar.bz208:37
zcat[1] Unlike certain other operating systems, ubuntu doesn't come with SFA apps and require you to download stuff to do anyhing useful.08:37
cafuego_xfelon: <heh> Why do you need '08:37
cafuego_tar' then? ;-)08:37
xfelonidk08:37
xfelonso i can install all my other programs?08:37
aftertafyapyccky:  means, i dont know..... im not a very good linux user...:/08:37
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bobbyhmm08:37
xfelonI want to use bmpx and azureus08:37
cafuego_xfelon: start synaptic from the admin menu.08:37
dooglusxfelon: "tarball" is a name for any ".tar.gz", ".tgz", ".tar.bz2", ".tbz" and so on...08:37
cafuego_ah, i see...08:37
keffyndHDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device08:37
xfelonk08:37
cafuego_that's a tad trickier.08:38
xfelonive untared it08:38
trigger_phany takers please?08:38
xfeloni can go into the folder08:38
xfelonand i see, a bunch of folders and files08:38
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topylixfelon: you don't want to install tar from source. you already have tar08:38
cafuego_xfelon: there there one called 'Makefile' ?08:38
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xfelonmakefile.am08:38
xfelonmakefile.in08:38
cafuego_in the extracted tar-1.1.5 folder?08:39
xfelonyes08:39
topylixfelon: in fact you don't want to install anything from source08:39
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xfelonso what do i do?08:39
topylii know i don't :)08:39
dooglusxfelon: tar is installed already.  forgot about compiling tar.08:39
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trigger_phcan anyone please help me remove a startup command in a session? my pc doesn't make it past that to load metacity and others anymore08:39
xfelonk08:39
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topylixfelon: get rid of the tarballs and go about your daily business :)08:40
Drauconsneak08:40
xfelondoes ubuntu come with  Sun Java 1.4.x ?08:40
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Java_The_HuttQuestion: Do guys suggest an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy or a format fresh install ?08:40
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HrdwrBobjsut upgrade08:40
dooglustrigger_ph: the file is ~/.gnome2/session08:40
Java_The_Huttxfelon, with little config you got java 1.5_0408:40
dooglustrigger_ph: rename it to something else temporarily08:40
cjhcjhcjhQ. Is the CD install able to shrink a FAT32 partition?08:40
zcat[1] xfelon: almost everything you could possibly want should already be installed. If not, try running synaptic and you'll probably find you can download and install it with a few mouseclicks08:40
yapycckythx in anycase aftertaf08:40
topylixfelon: no, you have to get java from Sun08:40
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xfelonsynaptic?08:41
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Java_The_HuttQuestion: Do guys suggest an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy or a format fresh install ?08:41
aftertafxfelon:  gfx gui for apt, the ubuntu package system08:41
trigger_phdooglus, i'll try that. hold on..08:41
xfelonwhere do i find it08:41
aftertafJava_The_Hutt:  upgrade is the debian way :)08:41
tsvhi pplz08:41
aftertafxfelon:  sudo apt-get install  synaptic08:41
zcat[1] xfelon: do you have a GUI configured?08:41
aftertafor if installed, system menu08:41
lightstarJava_The_Hutt: an upgrade will do just fine08:41
xfelonno08:41
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xfelonim using gnome right now i think08:41
topylixfelon: it's in the System menu of your top panel08:41
xfeloni just installed08:41
Java_The_Huttok thx08:41
lightstarJava_The_Hutt :np08:42
xfelonsynaptic package manager?08:42
topyliyes08:42
zcat[1] Yeah, that!08:42
sampanthat's the magic tool08:42
xfelonHow do I configure a gui?08:42
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  fresh start is nice for those who need someone to clean out their $HOME every 6 months :)08:42
xfelondo i want gnome or kdi08:42
cjhcjhcjhQ. Is the CD install able to shrink a FAT32 partition? Or do you have to make space first?08:42
xfelonkde*08:42
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zcat[1] No need.. apparently you're already in it08:42
ktogiasIs that bad? : Installing console-common (0.7.51ubuntu1) ... Looking for keymap to install:08:42
ktogias NONE08:42
ktogiasnull symbol found08:42
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ktogiasin dist-upgrade08:42
pefhello !08:43
xfelonDo I need to configure a gui if i just installed?08:43
eyequeuektogias:  mine reads "NONE" too when i upgrade that package08:43
topylixfelon: you do have a gui. you just said you have stuff on your desktop08:43
xfelonk08:43
xfeloni have gnome08:43
trigger_phdooglus, it worked! thank you!08:43
xfelonbut i didnt config it08:43
zcat[1] gnome is a gui08:43
xfelonit did it on its own08:43
topylixfelon: the installer has configured it for you08:43
xfelonk good08:43
eyequeuektogias:  it's not been a problem here, i wouldn't worry (unless you need some special keymap i guess)08:43
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xfelonso in order for me to run azureus i need sun java installed right?08:44
topylixfelon: yes08:44
zcat[1] xfelon: I suggest you work your way through the menus and find out what you already have.. if you're used to windows "three games and a crappy media player" you'll be quite surprised how many applications are already installed..08:44
shalemost ppl suggest an apt-get dist-upgrade08:44
shalebut it hosed my laptop because i'd customized my X drivers and what-not08:44
shaleso now i've reinstalled fresh but i have no 3d accel with my ati x30008:44
xfelonk08:45
xfelonive used windows my whole life08:45
eyequeueubotu:  tell shale about repos08:45
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jrrhow might i choose which soundcard to use primarily?08:45
haroWhere can I get a ubuntu sources mirror list?08:45
anthony /burp08:45
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xfelonwhat is Linux RPM?08:46
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xfelonLinux RPM (self-extracting file)08:46
harohow might i choose which soundcard to use primarily?08:46
eyequeueubotu:  tell haro about repos08:46
ktogiasharo, look at the topic08:46
jrrthat's a redhat (and a few other distros) package08:46
haro....08:46
anthonyGt3 is for KDE right?08:46
eyequeueharo:  the pastebins have ... you want something else, sorry, stand by08:46
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xfelonLinux RPM (self-extracting file)08:47
xfelonwhat is RPM?08:47
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eyequeuexfelon:  "redhat package manager"08:47
xfelonoh08:47
xfelonsorry08:47
eyequeuerpm (8)              - RPM Package Manager08:47
ktogiasxfelon, Redhat Package Management08:47
xfelondoes linux download faster?08:48
eyequeuexfelon:  it's also the name of the format they put their packages into (like .deb in ubuntu)08:48
xfelonseems like it08:48
xfelon410kb/s versus 350kb/s on windows08:48
topyli!java08:48
ubotuit has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java08:48
zcat[1] rpm and deb are how linux packages programs.. like msi in windows..08:49
topylixfelon: look at what ubotu just said08:49
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wickedpuppyeh ah ... i seriously doubt linux can affect the download speed xfelon ...08:49
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zcat[1] wickedpuppy: default MTU?08:49
jrrwickedpuppy: i don't08:49
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cjhcjhcjhDoes the desktop have a chat program that can connect to MSN Messenger?08:49
jrrcjhcjhcjh: gaim08:49
xfelonok08:49
cjhcjhcjhjrr: thx08:50
eyequeuewickedpuppy:  other than less spyware eating up available bandwidth maybe :)08:50
xfelonso ubuntu is debain?08:50
HrdwrBobno08:50
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sally_what repos do I have to add to be able to install mplayer?  right now I have universe main restricted multiverse08:50
zcat[1] ubuntu is based on debian..08:50
sally_I am on breezy08:50
eyequeuecjhcjhcjh:  applications > internet > gaim08:50
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cevizogluwhich key modifiers correspond to the underlined letters in ubuntu?  Control, Alt, and Shift don't seem to work.08:50
mcquaidhello, i want to compile a qt app thats not in breezy yet, but i'm getting onfigure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt308:50
cjhcjhcjheyequeue: tvm08:50
eyequeuecjhcjhcjh:  np08:50
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mcquaidand i've got all the dev libs i can see08:50
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topylixfelon: debian is the mothership, many linux distributions (like ubuntu) are based on it08:50
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xfelonk08:50
xfeloni am getting owned lol08:50
mcquaidi complied a few qt apps in hoary without issue08:51
sally_mcquaid, do export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 or something then08:51
cevizogluoops.. if someone answered my question, please say agin08:51
cevizogluer, again08:51
wickedpuppyso can i get higer speed with linux+dialup than windows+cable ?08:51
johntrampdo you need to format and reinstall ubuntu to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?08:51
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sally_mcquaid, I don't know what the actual qt directory is though... if you know that already, sorry, it's all I know08:51
mcquaidi tried: ./configure ---with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt308:51
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topylijohntramp: no, just upgrade08:51
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johntrampcool08:51
eyequeueubotu:  tell johntramp about breezy08:51
sally_mcquaid, but it's looking for the env variable QTDIR08:51
ktogiasAfter upgrading hoary to breezy, i have 5 packages that will not be upgraded... How do I cope with them? (eg. See what happens with every single one, or there is a command that will resolv their deps?)08:51
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johntrampeyequeue, lol08:52
eyequeuejohntramp:  that url gives the much simpler method08:52
cevizoglunevermind, I figured it out08:52
xfelonwhat do i use to open .deb?08:52
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jas_Hello I am wondering if Samba will run on Ubuntu?08:52
sally_does anyone know what repository I have to add to my sources list file to be able to install mplayer08:52
johntrampthansk08:52
topyliktogias: did you upgrade or dist-upgrade?08:52
sally_xfelon, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb08:52
zcat[1] johntramp: hell no, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list change hoary to breezy, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade08:52
ktogiastopyli, yes08:52
xfelonin terminal?08:52
sally_yeah08:52
xfelonk08:52
xfelonone sec08:52
ktogiastopyli, dist-upgrade08:52
eyequeuesally_:  Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-586_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb08:52
b3nwhas anyone gotten dvd shrink working on breezy08:52
b3nw?08:52
eyequeuesally_:  multiverse it seems08:52
shale!tell me 3d08:52
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starscallingshin08:53
shale!tell me ati08:53
shini-samastarscalling08:53
starscallingask here08:53
starscalling:)08:53
shini-samano08:53
shini-samalol08:53
starscallingbah08:53
topyliktogias: sometimes you need to do it several times to give apt a chance to sort things out08:53
xfelonwtf08:53
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shalehow do i get my ati x300 3d working under breezy?08:53
xfelonthe file has a password08:53
jas_cafuego_: Do you know if Samba will run on Ubuntu?08:53
zcat[1] b3nw: install mplayer/mencoder08:53
shini-samai dont ask questions08:53
starscallingthese guys are way better than #debian08:53
xfelonThose files ubotn gave me had passwrods08:53
shini-samai play to the point of frustration08:53
starscallinghey08:53
cevizoglushale, beats me.  I walked through the ATI drivers wiki and it didn't work08:53
sally_xfelon, no they dont08:53
starscallingwho could tell me how to change ownership of ntfs hdd mounted to a folder08:53
zcat[1] mencoder will read and re-encode DVD's (with the right libraries..)08:54
starscallingplease08:54
sally_xfelon, just type in your user password08:54
starscalling:P08:54
jas_crimsun : Hey whats up?  That mounting really helped out.  I appriciate it.  Do you know though if Samba will run on Ubuntu??08:54
xfelonoh08:54
xfelonlol08:54
shalecevizoglu: which wiki?08:54
xfelonok08:54
xfelonis it installed now?08:54
tritiumjas_, samba definitely runs on ubuntu08:54
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xfelon"setting up sun-j2re1.5..."08:54
ktogiastopyli, Have already run apt-get dist-upgrade a 3-4 times... It doesn't seem to do something new with those packages.08:54
eyequeuedvds:  that reminds me ... what do people recommend to use to backup to dvd-rw ?08:54
cevizoglushale; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:54
jas_tritium: Okay what package should I download??08:54
starscallingjas_::08:54
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starscallingthere is something really nice in ubuntu08:54
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starscallinglet me find again08:55
cafuego_jas_: Yes, samba runs fine on ubuntu.08:55
elad`How do I remove "lock current location" from Konqueror's default settings?08:55
xfelonok sally08:55
shini-samalol08:55
tritiumjas_, samba, literally08:55
starscallingit can browse windows folders great08:55
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xfelonafter i installed those .deb's can i delete them?08:55
brentdaxError while upgrading: "E: /cdrom//pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_i386.deb:  subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2"08:55
xfelonor do i need them to stay on my desktop?08:55
cevizoglushale, actually, I think I failed to edit my xorg.conf file.  maybe that will make it work08:55
eyequeuexfelon:  unless you want to use them on another machine later or something08:55
xfelonno08:56
Java_The_HuttQuestion: is there any significant disadvantage (like unstability) of Kubuntu over ubuntu08:56
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ktogiastopyli, I am taking them one-by-one... It seems to work...08:56
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xfelonwhen i move to trash can i ever get that stuff back?08:56
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jrryes.08:56
topyliktogias: there are unresolved dependencies it seems. apt-get -f install might help. or not08:56
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brentdaxThis happened after it started applying the new packages, so I'm worried it might have messed something up...08:56
jas_cafuego_: Do you think you could help me install it because to be honest as you know I'm a Linux nub!08:56
ktogiastopyli, I tryed that too.08:56
xfelonrofl i have Azureus running08:56
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  the "[dis] advantage" is that is uses kde rather than gnome08:56
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sally_xfelon, I have  no idea I  installed ubuntu for the first time this evening... and right now I got back from a party and am drunk08:56
topylixfelon: sure, until you empty the trash08:56
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xfelonhow do i empty trash?08:56
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  some would say advantage, some would say disadvantage :)  whichever you prefer08:57
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jrrit's just like windows. right click on the trash can.08:57
ktogiasxfelon, rightclick on it08:57
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xfeloni dont see any trash cans08:57
zcat[1] same as windows, right click on it and 'empty the trash'08:57
eyequeuexfelon:  right click on it08:57
Java_The_Hutteyequeue, as a first sight  i found KDE superior over GNOME, why do some think otherwise ?08:57
eyequeuexfelon:  bottom right corner (if in gnome)08:57
xfelonhaa08:57
xfelonjsut found it08:57
topylixfelon: it's in your bottom panel, on the right08:57
jas_xfelon : Its on the right bottom side of the Panel it looks like a trash can.08:57
brentdax(I grabbed an ISO off BitTorrent for the base packages, and then set synaptic using it and online repositories for everything that wasn't on the CD.)08:57
xfelonthanks08:57
zcat[1] right click on desktop and tell it to show you the trash..08:57
xfelonman you guys rock08:57
starscallingi think its places >> network servers08:57
xfelonim never going back to windows =)08:58
jas_cafuego_: Do you think you could help me install it because to be honest as you know I'm a Linux nub!08:58
zcat[1] it should be in the desktop settings somewhere08:58
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  that "windowsish" feel and eye candy can be viewed as bloat to some.  use whichever you like and your machine likes, really08:58
b3nwhas anyone gotten dvd shrink working on breezy?08:58
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zcat[1] isn't dvdshrink a windows program?08:59
xfelonya08:59
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  an old slow machine may prefer something lighter like xfce ("xubuntu")08:59
Java_The_HuttQuestion: Can i upgrade from ubuntu hoary to Kubuntu Breezy ?08:59
b3nwwith wine08:59
Razor-Xdoes anyone here have a deep, profession-announcer-style voice, and if they could record a sound byte for me, could they PM me?08:59
starscallingzcat[1] :: yeah08:59
starscallingbut its on linux too08:59
brentdaxAlso got a lot of errors about "extracting templates from packages" (can't c&p those).08:59
Razor-Xeyequeue: have you tried ratpoison?08:59
starscallingive used it to good effect08:59
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  yes08:59
b3nwstarscalling - on breezy?08:59
topyliJava_The_Hutt: sure. upgrade and install kubuntu-desktop08:59
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: oddly enough a mate here is a voice actor!08:59
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Java_The_Huttthx all09:00
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: excellent!09:00
starscallingyeah b3nw09:00
starscallingo09:00
starscallingno09:00
starscallingon debian09:00
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: can he record something for me in a small WAV?09:00
b3nw:\09:00
starscallingbut why not get the package and build it09:00
eyequeueJava_The_Hutt:  installl kubuntu-desktop (uninstall ubuntu-desktop) and then do the upgrade to breezy that everyone is recommending09:00
shini-sama:'(09:00
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: I could ask. is it commercial or just personal?09:00
starscallingOMFG updates FINISHED downloading!09:00
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: personal, totally09:00
eyequeueRazor-X:  no, not personally09:00
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: it's for a school project09:00
starscalling196 of em >_<09:00
Razor-Xeyequeue: if you want to go really minimalistic, it's pretty useful09:01
angryfixThis is sort of odd. I was trying to install a day of defeat server and I messed up the command line arguments and it created a dir called '-dir'. Well I can't erase the damn thing because it keep trying to read -dir as a parameter for mkdir.09:01
eyequeueRazor-X:  like it?09:01
b3nwwine and winesetuptk won't install together, its either one or the other, its like they arn't setup the same... so every guide i try to follow doesn't work... I can get dvd shrink started but when I open a disk it bombs out.09:01
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: in that case, np, I will ask as a favor. email me details, chris_hopkin@hotmail.com09:01
Razor-Xeyequeue: it's prety nice, you wanna see a screenshot?09:01
^fuelmanWhat aboy Edubuntu for the kids .. no mirrors .. can only DL in 50k / s09:01
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: can I PM you? because it's pretty simple09:01
eyequeueRazor-X:  yeah, i only mention xfce due to the new xubuntu option heh09:01
Razor-Xit's a few seconds, at most09:01
b3nw"Failed to initalize ASPI device"09:01
eyequeueRazor-X:  sure, if you have one handy :)09:01
Razor-Xeyequeue: yeah, XFce is pretty nice, you can try ratpoison too09:01
starscallingb3nw:: ill have it in in a couple days if no one else gets it working for ya ill try to help :P09:01
starscallingb/c i MUST have it XD09:01
zcat[1] cjhcjhcjh: cool; I need all my asterisk prompts redone too.. the defaults aren't too great :(09:01
Razor-Xeyequeue: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png09:01
brentdaxShit, I think locales are broken...09:01
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EnsignRedshirtHello, world.09:02
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: I a part way thru trying to get this install set-up and have no ps or anything etc (lol at asterix)09:02
tritiumbrentdax, please don't curse, kthx09:02
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cjhcjhcjhs/ps/pm/09:02
EnsignRedshirtIf I plug in a USB printer, should Ubuntu (breezy) detect it automatically?09:02
shini-samaanyone know how to mount an ntfs filesystem so its readable by someone other than root?09:02
eyequeueRazor-X:  nice09:03
SeveasEnsignRedshirt, depends on the printer09:03
Razor-Xshini-sama: sudo mount /dev/path/to/drive /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs -o umask=022209:03
Seveasshini-sama, add umask=000009:03
zcat[1] hmm.. I just removed my currently running kernel in synaptic. It got really paranoid about it too :)09:03
shini-samathanks, i'll try that now09:03
Razor-XSeveas: but isn't ntfs dangerous to be written by someone other than root?09:03
Seveaszcat[1] , hehe :)09:03
EnsignRedshirtI'm using System->Administration->Printers->New Printer; the printer does not show up in "Use a detected printer"09:03
starscallingbtw09:03
zcat[1] swapping 386 to 686 ..09:03
SeveasRazor-X, even with umask=0000 it's readonly :)09:03
aftertafntfs wont write at all.....09:03
Razor-Xeyequeue: like my Konsole theme?09:04
eyequeuezcat[1] :  i'd install a good one before rebooting :)09:04
Razor-XSeveas: oh, meh09:04
starscallingi was using k3b to burn b3nw09:04
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eyequeueRazor-X:  yes :)09:04
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brentdaxtritium, please give soem consideration to the fact that I'm worried I may have seriously damaged my installation and I can't seem to find anyone willing to give me a hint about what might be going on, kthx.09:04
shini-samai know i cant write to it09:04
brentdax*some09:04
shini-samajust want to read it09:04
zcat[1] Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 (2.6.12-9.23) ...09:04
Seveasbrentdax, 'sup?09:04
shini-sama:D09:04
zcat[1] I have live cd's .. I can recover from almost anything anyhow..09:04
xfelonhey does anyone have a linksys wireless g router?09:04
EnsignRedshirtI get some activity in dmesg when I plug the printer in, but I'm not sure what to do next...09:04
shini-samawoot, that worked, thanks Razor-X09:04
tritiumbrentdax, what's going on?09:05
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: got my PM?09:05
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eyequeuexfelon:  no one does :)  what did you need?09:05
SeveasEnsignRedshirt, system-> admin->printers perhaps...09:05
xfelonwell09:05
EnsignRedshirtSeveas: That's what I'm looking at now, but the printer has not been detected.09:05
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: probably, but being n00b I don&t know how to raed it ;-)09:05
xfeloni need to open the port 688109:05
xfelonit says its blacklisted09:05
xfelonwondering if anyone knew how09:05
eyequeuexfelon:  (wrt54g here)09:05
xfelonME TOO09:05
xfelonwrt54g09:05
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: oh, meh, then here it is09:06
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cevizogluI'm trying to configure 3D accel on an ATI X300 w/ breezy on a thinkpad.  I've install xorg-server-fglrx, but I'm not sure what to do next?  do I edit xorg.conf? rebuild the kernel? or both?09:06
zcat[1] rebooting.. If I'm not back in three minutes you'll know I screwed up the kernel :)09:06
brentdaxDownloaded an ISO of Breezy off BitTorrent.  Used that plus the repositories to upgrade, but when Synaptic got to the "apply" step, I got a bunch of errors during preprocessing implying that it couldn't read files it had snagged from the CD and finally bailed while trying to unpack libstdc++.09:06
brentdaxI can't get an md5sum off /dev/cdrom--is that normal?09:06
SeveasEnsignRedshirt, have you checked linuxprinting.org ?09:06
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: I was wondering if he could say this in a deep voice ``It's your friends Mr. Baa baa and Mr. Hoppy IN --- BOOK TALK'' (Mr. Baa baa is a sheep, and Mr. Hoppy is a frog)09:06
Razor-Xmmmm, FMA Complete Best is one of my all-time favorite CDs09:06
eyequeuexfelon:  you know how to get to the router with firefox, right?09:07
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: heh not at all off-topic, eh? ok I will ask...but will need to be able to contact you back so email would help ;-)09:07
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: I need it for a school project tomorrow :P09:07
EnsignRedshirtSeveas: This printer worked fine in warty.  It is in the list of supported printers.09:07
aftertaf"Could't stat source package list...", when apt-get update.... any ideas why?09:07
eyequeuexfelon: applications and gming, then open the port09:07
shalebreezy is a lot sluggier than winxp on my laptop09:07
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: Deaths.Hell@gmail.com09:07
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EnsignRedshirtSeveas: I think it might be a detection/USB problem.09:07
aftertafshale:  install kernel for your proc type.09:07
shale:(09:07
Razor-X*gasp* my email address was just imprinted on logs worldwide :P09:07
xfelonwhat is gming?09:07
brentdaxWhen I try to md5sum /dev/cdrom: "error processing /dev/cdrom: failed in buffer_read(fd): mdfile: Input/output error"09:08
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xfelonnow09:08
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xfeloni have to type in a url to my firefox browser09:08
xfelonforgot the url09:08
Razor-XI think i'm the first, ever, to do that :P09:08
SeveasEnsignRedshirt, might very well be, consider filing a bug at bugzilla (include the dmesg stuff there and the fact thatit worked in warty)09:08
airxdresHi all09:08
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: I will go ask now09:08
Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: thanks09:09
brentdaxaftertaf: I'm no expert, but I usually see that when a server is down or misconfigured.09:09
xfelonwait09:09
xfeloni found it09:09
xfeloneyequeue i foudn ti09:09
aftertafbrentdax:  or when no net connection is up?09:09
aftertafthx09:09
brentdaxaftertaf: I suppose that would do it too.09:09
eyequeuexfelon:  Setup | Wireless | Security | Access Restrictions | Applications & Gaming | Administration | Setup09:09
xfelonyaes09:10
xfeloni foudn it09:10
xfelonlol sorry09:10
EnsignRedshirtSeveas: Hmmm... I got it working by selecting "USB Printer #1".  Go figure.09:10
xfelonnow how do i unblock09:10
cevizoglunevermind, I found what to change in the xorg.conf file... blah09:10
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xfelonwhere do i put ip?09:10
eyequeuexfelon:  i type slowly09:10
xfelonits ok09:10
brentdaxMaybe I'll try to get the ISO onto one of my other machines and burn it from there...09:10
aftertafbrentdax:  hmm. trying to help s/one who has no X and no net connection after his upgrade to breezy.....09:10
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xfeloncan i just have all ports for azureus open?09:10
Seveasaftertaf, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:10
eyequeuexfelon:  A&G > Port Range Forward09:10
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aftertafSeveas:  ok.09:11
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xfelonyes im there09:11
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xfelonanyway to make azureus open 24/7?09:11
xfeloninstead of ports09:11
eyequeuexfelon: just to the left of enable is where you put the ip of your host09:11
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aftertaflwells:  try the dpkg command i sent you....09:11
eyequeuexfelon: not sure, i guess google may know09:11
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dazvidWhats a nice program to burn ISO's with?09:12
aftertafdazvid:  k3b09:12
dazvidDanke09:12
topylidazvid: nautilus09:12
xmasterxcdroast09:12
dooglusnero09:12
eyequeuewhat's a nice program to do backups to dvd-rw with?09:12
dooglusbad dooglus!  <slap>09:12
dazvidlol ^09:12
topylidazvid: right-click on the iso, choose "write"09:12
Seveas!lart dooglus09:12
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dazvidah thanks topyli09:13
eyequeueor dvd+rw?  what's the difference? (this drive will do both)09:13
xfelongeeze this is tough09:13
[nrx] i need some webcam help if anyone wants to try with me?09:13
rathmare09:13
doogluseyequeue: I hear that dvd+rw's play back in domestic DVD players?09:13
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bozeckwhat is the application in gnome called that lets me drag windows from one virt desktop to another ? (the one in the toolbar on the bottom)09:13
eyequeuedooglus:  no idea09:13
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keffynd[nrx]  start by taking your top off, other will think you are rushing things otherwise09:14
lwellsthe reconfigure did not work09:14
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Slaj_RDoes anyone else have problems installing RealPlayer?09:14
[nrx] thanks for the wise words, keffynd09:14
topylibozeck: workspace switcher09:14
doogluseyequeue: me either, but it's what I was told.  if you burn an mpeg to a dvd+rw, all dvd players will play it.  I don't know if dvd-rw is harder to get working, or impossible...09:14
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eyequeuebozeck:  no idea, but if i right-click on the top of a window, i can move it to another desktop, if that helps any09:14
kYotiKanyone in here on the dabber development team?09:14
kYotiKthats the name of the 6.04 isnt it?09:15
eyequeuedooglus:  any idea on a good backup-to-dvd app?09:15
rathmai dont install (apt-get)  sun-j2re1.5 and any packages09:15
doogluseyequeue: k3b I guess...09:15
aftertaflwells:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, returned an error?09:15
crimsun(Dapper, and yes, quite a few people are)09:15
eyequeuedooglus:  i never got it working with dvds, may be me09:15
doogluseyequeue: to tell the truth the only dvd writer I have access to is on a windows box...  so 'nero' is my truthful answer :)09:15
lwellscommand not found09:15
kYotiKyea i was wondering if i could help somehow09:15
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aftertaflwells:  if no error..... try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start'09:15
eyequeuedooglus:  gotcha09:15
aftertaflwells:  check your fat fingers ;)09:15
crimsunkYotiK: there's a participation link in the home page09:16
kYotiKi'd like to help with packaging and finding new cool stuff for the repos, and start a team to help keep them maintained09:16
lwellshold on, yes that was it, fat again09:16
aftertaflwells:  more than important to type the exact cmd in linux.... ;)09:16
kYotiKcrimson i looked at the link, but i really wasnt too impressed with how it wanted me to go about doing it09:16
kYotiKi figured it would be better to ask in here in person09:16
lwellsit says that xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed09:16
bozeckhow would i initialize gnome to the state at its initial state, when I first install ubuntu09:17
bozeck?09:17
crimsunkYotiK: /j ubuntu-motu09:17
kYotiKthanks crimsun09:17
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bozeckThings have stopped running on gnome (workspace switcher and some other things)09:17
xfelonis there anyway to setup my GUI so it looks cleaner?09:17
xfelonand i can customize it better?09:17
xfelonim using gnome09:17
kYotiKbozneck: did you just do an update?09:17
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kYotiKbozneck: it updated something that did that to mine, but it started working again shortly09:18
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bozeckky : i didn't.  but I share this machine with somebody else, it's not unlikely that he did09:18
aftertaf616 users :)09:18
eyequeuexfelon:  system > preferences has some things that may help09:18
lllmanulllbozeck, You can delete your GNOME settings, but this is not totally harmless... You'll probably need to configure things again09:18
kYotiKbozeck, just give it a min09:18
aftertaflwells:  ok.   did it say anything else?09:18
sexcopter8001mhey guys, can i just say, and i know it's early days, but breezy is perhaps the best thing that ever happened to my laptop =D09:18
bozeckit's been a few hours.09:19
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kYotiKbozeck are you in gnome now and everything quit interacting?09:19
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kYotiKlike the menus would do anything, the iconified windows wouldnt let you open them up, etc?09:19
bozecki'm in gnome now, but I'm still interacting with things09:19
lwellsfirst message was warning:setting locale failed09:19
kYotiKbozeck: have you tried to killall -9 gnome-panel09:19
bozeckworkspace switcher died, and whatever is in charge of some stuff in the bottom panel died09:19
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lwellsalso said "Cannot set LC_CType to default locale09:20
xfeloneyequeue when i click install theme it asks for the install location09:20
lwellsall stuff about Locale09:20
bozeckky : that did  not seem to work.09:21
eyequeuexfelon:  i think it is looking for a url?09:21
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kYotiKbozeck, did you just now try it ?09:21
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eyequeuexfelon:  i think i found themes starting at gnome.org?  i forget09:21
crimsunlwells: those locale warnings are not show-stoppers09:22
sampanxfelon, you can download themes from gnome-look.org and then install from the saved files09:22
lwellsshow-stopper??09:22
crimsunlwells: first make sure you downloaded all the necessary Breezy updates09:22
crimsunlwells: it won't prevent a successful dist-upgrade09:22
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jolishello09:22
zcat[1] problem; nvidia drivers won't work - currently using 'nv' .. I installed restricted-modules-..-nvidia-legacy and dmesg says it's loaded but when I swap 'nv' to 'nvidia' in the xorg.conf it just won't start any more :(09:22
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lwellswell again, how can i , not connect to internet09:22
BlankBI add a line to my fstab for my firewire drive that includes user as one of the options but when I try to mount it as a user it always says: "mount: only root can do that" What could I be doing wrong?09:22
xfelonthanks09:22
crimsunlwells: do you have a 5.10 CD?09:23
lwellsnope09:23
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eyequeuesampan:  thanks09:23
crimsunI think it's time to wrangle one09:23
sampaneyequeue, sure np :)09:23
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lwellswell i can on the mac, but it will take awhile09:24
teslanHey guys I have a weird problem.  I just installed Ubuntu but it is not installing GRUB correctly.  I get an error 5 when GRUB tries to load to finish the install.09:24
bozeckkyotik : yea.  all the panels restarted, but workspace switcher and the other app did not restart.  Everything else did, though.09:24
xuniluserWhen i upgrade my ubuntu to breezy badger, will it downgrade my apps?09:24
lwellswhat if i directly connect to the internet09:24
starscallinghow does one install another gui? like kde?09:24
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crimsunlwells: the machine you want to run Breezy?09:25
kYotiKbozeck: is everything working but the workspace switching and the other app?? btw what is the other app?09:25
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Jedrickhow to know if im using ubuntu breezy?09:25
eyequeuestarscalling:  "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" is the simple way09:25
lwellsi want to run it wireless, but maybe just to get this fixed09:25
crimsunJedrick: lsb_release -a09:25
kYotiKstarscalling: apt-get install kde-desktop09:25
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cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: tried to do the soundbite; prob with soundcard; am going to do it on a diff pc...should have it to you asap09:25
sampanstarscalling, apt-get install kde-desktop ... iirc09:25
sampanlol09:25
starscallingsweet thanx kYotiK09:25
crimsunlwells: your wireless should already work.09:25
kYotiKoh yea kubuntu-desktop maybe09:25
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X: rebooting bbl09:26
kYotiKand of course sudo or su09:26
crimsunstarscalling: kubuntu-desktop09:26
starscallingare there a lot of gui's as packages?09:26
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Razor-Xcjhcjhcjh: mmkay09:26
lwellsit says "no wireless extentions"09:26
crimsunlwells: which chipset?09:26
Jedrickcrimsun: thnx dude09:26
StarKruzrhi kids.09:26
kYotiKstarscalling you might want to install xfce409:26
LaserLineAnyone could help me install Sun's Java on breezy ?09:26
lwells"Brookdale"09:26
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crimsunno, xubuntu-desktop09:27
kYotiKor you might even like enlightenment09:27
eyequeuestarscalling:  "kubuntu-desktop" is actually something that pulls in all of the things you'd want to have a nice kde setup09:27
kYotiKxubuntu-desktop?09:27
crimsunyes09:27
kYotiKi thought it was kubuntu-desktop09:27
starscallingah09:27
starscallingsweet09:27
sampanwhich wm/gui is xubuntu?09:27
eyequeuestarscalling:  "xubuntu-desktop" is actually something that pulls in all of the things you'd want to have a nice xfce setup09:27
crimsunXfce09:27
LaserLineI followed the wiki under restricted format's and used 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' to switch to Sun's java, but Konquerer or Firefox doesn't use it... (they were restarted)09:27
sampanoh -- nice09:27
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starscallingso09:27
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starscallingboth of those couldnt hurt :P09:27
kYotiKstarscalling most of us arent fans of KDE really heh09:27
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kYotiKi hate the widgets and the windowish look myself09:28
eyequeuestarscalling:  and of course "ubuntu-desktop" is actually something that pulls in all of the things you'd want to have a nice gnome setup09:28
starscallingjust wanted to mess with a few things i guess09:28
lwellsMaybe I will just create a Breezy CD tommorrow09:28
starscallingo.O09:28
starscallingreally09:28
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kYotiKbut thats just the interface its still just as powerful, just been hooked on gnome for several years09:28
starscallingill try that then09:28
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xfelonhey i got annother q09:28
xfeloni have a logitech laser mouse09:28
starscallingeyequeue:: ever use k3b?09:28
xfelonand the thumb button "back" doesnt work09:28
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starscallingi had a little trouble with errors in debian a while back09:28
xfelonis there a driver or something i need to install?09:28
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starscallingbut i was using the experimental at the time... wondered how the matchup was09:29
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eyequeuestarscalling:  i installed it ti get dvd-rw support, but it didn't work for that here somehow09:29
starscallingand is there anything for ripping // backing up dvd's?09:29
kYotiKwhen was the last xfce update?  i posted a bug on the bugzilla a few weeks ago.. xfce was working fine then my right click menu stopped working, even after a reboot... anyone else had this problem?09:29
Razor-XkYotiK: you hate window decorations and widgets?09:29
kYotiKno09:29
starscallingah09:29
Razor-XkYotiK: oh, ok, meh09:29
kYotiKi mean i hate the Qt widgets in kde09:29
lwellsi need to get to bed, if worse comes to worse, i will just reinstall Linux09:29
Razor-XkYotiK: oh, meh09:29
crimsunkYotiK: Xfce itself or xubuntu-meta?09:29
eyequeuestarscalling:  could be me09:29
LaserLineWell, Sun's JAva works in Konqueror but not in Firefox... What can I do ?09:29
Razor-XI love QT widgets, in general09:29
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brentdaxHmm, the bad part of saving the day with your iPod is that you can't listen to said iPod while said day is being saved.09:30
brentdaxstarscalling: Anything wrong with `dd if=/dev/cdrom of=blah`?09:30
crimsunJani updated the seed in -meta shortly before release, but that wouldn't have affected xfdesktop409:30
kYotiKcrimsun it was XFCE4 i installed it from the repos, and i installed XFCE4 package09:30
kYotiKbut i didnt know of this xubuntu stuff, but im sure it installed those too as deps09:30
crimsunxfce4 from breezy/universe, correct?09:30
kYotiKcorrect09:30
crimsunopen a terminal, pkill xfdesktop, restart it, and secondary-click. What's the error?09:31
StarKruzrGNOME > KDE09:31
kYotiKwell im not in xfce right now crimsun09:31
Razor-Xcrimsun: what happens if you have a few debian packages that are working fine, will they be superceded cleanly by their corresponding breezy packages?09:31
xfelonHow do I see how much memory im using?09:31
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crimsunRazor-X: there's no guarantee for packages from Debian09:31
sampanhow much of a memory overhead does xfce save over kde?09:31
bozeckkytotik : the other app is whatever draws the windows on the bottom panel, that show what applications are on the current virt desktop.  Not sure how to describe it correctly....09:31
Razor-Xcrimsun: :(09:32
starscallingbrentdax would be nice to be able to shrink my isos etc09:32
kYotiKRazor-X they will be reverted or upgraded..  they arent official ubuntu packages...09:32
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Razor-XkYotiK: well, the hoary version of ratpoison was 2 years behind09:32
kYotiKsampan: it saves a lot09:32
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Razor-XkYotiK: and since it uses very few (if any) dependancies, I said ``what the hell'' and used the Debian deb09:32
LaserLineAnyone ?09:32
Razor-Xbut, the breezy deb seems to be up to date09:32
kYotiKRazor-X: dont complain about that..  look at Redhats version of soundjuicer09:32
kYotiKheh09:32
brentdaxStarKruzr: Channel with holy wars < Channel without holy wars09:32
StarKruzrI disagree!  :D09:33
sampankyotik, hrmmmm ... i have xfce installed, but i got my kde looking so clean (just six icons on each side of the transparent taskbar and nothing on the desktop) so i never really gave it a shot09:33
Razor-XkYotiK: meh09:33
crimsunno, use -offtopic for wars09:33
sampanbut always the temptation is to experiment :X09:33
Razor-XkYotiK: can I tell that package _not_ to dist-upgrade?09:33
crimsunyou can hold it, pin it, etc.09:33
Razor-Xcrimsun: hmmm, i'll mess with aptitude09:34
kYotiKsampan: just give xfce a chance its really a good desktop, it has really low overhead, and it has a lot of good features built in...09:34
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ktogiasHi again, After upgrading from hoary rebooting to breezy I find out that module tuner that I use for my bttv TVcard doesn't accept parameter 'type' : [4295361.480000]  tuner: Unknown parameter `type'09:34
LaserLineHow can I link Sun's java to Firefox ??09:34
kYotiKktogias: try depmod and modprobe the card again09:34
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crimsunLaserLine: use java-package from multiverse.09:34
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kYotiKktogias: you may have changed to a diff version of the kernel which caused a problem with those previously compiled modules09:35
xfelonhow do i change my screen resolution?09:35
sampankyotik, might do so -- i think i tried it a once or twice, but i hate rebooting, so once i got kde settled, i just never went back to it -- maybe when i upgrade to breezy i'll give it a go for a longer spell :)09:35
jolisdoes ubuntu support radeon 9550 videocard ?09:35
kYotiKsampan u dont need to reboot to go into xfce09:35
ktogiasroot@media:~# depmod09:35
ktogiasroot@media:~# modprobe tuner type=5 pal=b09:35
ktogiasFATAL: Error inserting tuner (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)09:35
jolisand does it have switcher for the ntsc/pal tvout09:35
kYotiKjust log out after u install and log into xfce session09:35
sampanyeah, or log out09:35
kYotiKyou can stay logged in too09:35
ktogias[4295677.787000]  tuner: Unknown parameter `type'09:35
kYotiKand ctrl alt f709:35
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sampan*nod*  yeah, i'm lazy :X09:36
ktogiasIs there any way to handle it?09:36
shalewhat is a 3d game i can get via apt to test my 3d config?09:36
kYotiKsampan: i have grown that way myself09:36
crimsunktogias: type is no longer a parameter to that kernel module09:36
kYotiKshale: you can get vegastrike09:36
xfelonlol i dont like this resolution09:36
noodleshale: tuxracer09:36
shaleok i'll try those, thanks09:37
shaleare either of them fun? :)09:37
kYotiKtux is ok... vegastrike is pretty complicated and it uses a lot of resources, but it kicks ass09:37
kYotiKvegastrike is still in beta09:37
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shalewhat about planetplenguin-racer ?09:38
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kYotiKshale:  thats it09:38
kYotiKit got renamed09:38
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shalethats which?09:39
[nrx] can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?09:39
Razor-Xtuxracer got renamed?!09:39
kYotiKim pretty sure it did09:39
aftertafanyone got the 2nd world levels for supertux?09:40
Razor-X*gasp*09:40
ktogiasIf I modprobe tuner without type parameter Tuner doesn'work and I get at dmesg: [4295928.045000]  tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set09:40
Razor-XTuxRacer has been a UNIX staple for who knows _how_ long09:40
Puffballhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/ <-- I've been following this guide to install a Ralink 2570 driver, but when I run 'make' in Breezy I get errors due to not having GCC 3.4, but GCC 4 and 3.3 are the only versions included09:40
kYotiKktogias:  you need to set the tuner type.. and i really couldnt guide you through that, i never have messed with tv tuners on linux09:41
Razor-Xno, it's still TuxRacer on the website09:41
crimsunPuffball: aptitude install build-essential gcc-3.409:41
crimsunPuffball: also install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:41
kYotiKRazor-X: check the planet penguin thing09:41
JuhazPuffball, it should compile just fine with gcc 3.309:41
ktogiasI used to do that via the type param, but now: [4295908.392000]  tuner: Unknown parameter `type'09:41
crimsunktogias: type no longer exists as a parameter. Don't pass it to modprobe.09:42
PuffballJuhaz, would I have to uninstall GCC 4 to compile with 3.3?09:42
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kYotiKRazor-X: it didnt get renamed its just a new version of it09:42
LaserLinecrimsun I have that package, what to do with it ?09:42
ktogiascrimsun, And how will I set the tuner type???09:42
Razor-XkYotiK: yeah, that's whath I got googling09:42
kYotiKPlanetPenguin Racer, or ppracer as it is called for short, is a simple OpenGL09:42
kYotiKracing game featuring Tux, the Linux mascot. The goal of the game is to slide09:42
kYotiKdown a snow- and ice-covered mountain as quickly as possible, avoiding the09:42
kYotiKtrees and rocks that will slow you down.09:42
crimsunPuffball: see what I typed09:42
kYotiKIt is based on the GPL version of TuxRacer.09:42
kYotiKYou should have working 3D acceleration or this game will run quite slow.09:42
kYotiKHomepage: http://projects.planetpenguin.de/racer/09:42
Puffballcrimsun, I tried that, but it required connecting to one of Ubuntu's servers, and I'm trying to install a wifi card :/09:43
kYotiKhmm did that just go to the chan?09:43
mark_yes09:43
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kYotiKcuz i meant to paste it to Razor-X09:43
crimsunktogias: you don't09:43
kYotiKsorry ya all09:43
Major_StitchHi09:43
Razor-XkYotiK: I found the homepage, so, no worries09:43
crimsunPuffball: sneakernet via usb thumb drive09:43
ktogiascrimsun, Then tuner doesn't work.09:43
Puffballcrimsun: oh?09:43
crimsunktogias: then google and modinfo tuner09:43
kYotiKbrb everyone smoke break09:44
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starscalling!tell starscalling about win32 codecs09:44
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crimsunPuffball: oh...what?09:44
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ktogiascrimsun, I am doing that and I think I found something: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15168909:44
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[nrx] can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?09:44
Puffballcrimsun: sneakernet? I don't have a USB drive.09:44
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LaserLinecrimsun I have that package, what should I do with it ?09:45
Major_StitchUmmm...sorry, I have a question about ubuntu packages/programs: for 6 months there are no updates? Right? So have can I update Firefox 1.x.x to 1.x.y for example?09:45
starscallinghey09:45
crimsunPuffball: ok, how about a floppy or cd-r(w)?09:45
starscallinghow much bw is pushed out by those servers on release weeks?09:45
Puffballcrumsun, sure, but what does 'sneakernet' mean?09:45
Da_SWAThi all, I'm having a small problem. I'm trying to upgrade to breezy, but my systems hangs @ 'preconfiguring packages'. It's a AMD64 3500+, and the status didn't change for the last 2 hours. Help!09:45
aaron__hey all, im a brand new linux user, and i need help configuring my sound card, and installing codecs can some one please help me??09:45
crimsunstarscalling: us.releases was pushing 675 Mb/s yesterday.09:45
starscallingdam09:45
starscallingon a gbit?09:45
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starscallingits so awesome that ubuntu is free XD09:46
crimsunPuffball: it means you walk it from one machine to another, hence "sneakers"09:46
Major_Stitchaaron: seacrh on http://wiki.ubuntu.com there should be how to install codecs and should be about setting the sound card09:46
Razor-Xstarscalling: free as in beer, or free as in libre?09:46
aaron__thank you09:46
aaron__ill try that right away09:46
JuhazPuffball, try something like "make CC=gcc-3.3"09:47
[nrx] can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?09:47
Major_Stitchaaron: no problem, hope you'll find what you need09:47
crimsunJuhaz: no, the kernel was compiled with gcc-3.409:47
starscallingfree as in ive not pulled out my checkbook yet :P09:47
PuffballAh, alright, thanks Juhaz, crumsun.09:47
Juhazit was? urgh. what the hell is the sense of compiling the kernel with something that isn't included09:47
starscallingconfiguring it all right and finding everything is a bit of a bear09:47
Major_Stitchstarscalling: lol09:47
JedrickHOw to configure shorewall?09:47
starscallingbut totally worth it09:47
starscallingXD09:47
crimsunJuhaz: because the kernel WON'T compile with gcc409:47
starscallingthough09:47
crimsunJuhaz: pretty simple.09:47
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tristanmikenight all09:48
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starscallingive yet to understand porting firewalls correctly09:48
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RippinEmDaily21shut up09:48
starscallingon any front end09:48
liableJedrick: you go to shorewall.org and read there excellant documentation.09:48
ktogiasJust Fixed It! : Option type has been removed from tuner in 2.6.12. Instead I have to pass tuner={tuner type number} parameter to bttv module!!!!09:48
xfelonhow do i see how much memory i am using?09:48
Da_SWATI'm having a big problem. I'm trying to upgrade to breezy, but my systems hangs @ 'preconfiguring packages'. It's a AMD64 3500+, and the status didn't change for the last 2 hours. --> Anyone?09:48
crimsunktogias: like I said... :-)09:48
liablexfelon: free, top.09:48
Juhazcrimsun, so then bundle the 3.409:48
RippinEmDaily21u don't know09:48
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crimsunJuhaz: it is available.09:48
RippinEmDaily21im gonna rip it real quick09:48
xfelonfree top?09:48
RippinEmDaily21listen09:48
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Major_Stitchsorry people but does anybody know how to update programs for the first months since there are no updates. For example how can I update Firefox 1.0.x to 1.0.x+1?09:48
RippinEmDaily21im spit so harmful09:48
bozeckkYotiK: Thanks, I figured out my issue.  It's mostly that I'm gnome-ignant09:49
RippinEmDaily21its like gases pollute ya lungs09:49
Puffballcrimsun: this may or may not be a dumb question, but from windows, how could I get a hold of gcc-3.4 package for Ubuntu -- what source?09:49
RippinEmDaily21leaven ya stung09:49
crimsunRippinEmDaily21: this is a help channel. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that.09:49
RippinEmDaily21don't mess wit someone u don't know09:49
RippinEmDaily21shut up09:49
RippinEmDaily21aight09:49
RippinEmDaily21im playin09:49
liablebye bye09:49
RippinEmDaily21peace09:49
Major_StitchPuffball: i think you can get it on the gcc web page..but not sure09:49
Puffballah09:50
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crimsunPuffball: packages.ubuntu.com/gcc-3.409:50
Puffballah, thanks09:50
eyequeuePuffball:  also the source code is always available on ubuntu mirrors, if that's what you need09:50
crimsunPuffball: make sure you get the Breezy one for your architecture09:50
anthonyWhat's the command for configuring xorg hardware and etc. again? I rememberd it's something like "sudo xorg-config blah blah", anybody know?09:50
Puffballalright09:50
LaserLinecrimsun What should I do with java-package ?09:50
crimsunLaserLine: create a deb from the Sun JRE/JDK that you downloaded.09:50
eyequeueanthony:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename :)09:51
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crimsunLaserLine: the deb that you will create handles the symlinks.09:51
eyequeueanthony:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, in this case i think09:51
anthonyeyequeue: Thank you.09:51
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eyequeuenp09:51
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[nrx] can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?09:51
Major_Stitchhow can I update a program (f.e.Firefox 1.05 to 1.06) in ubuntu by using synaptic beacuse there are no new versions for the 6 months?09:51
crimsunJuhaz: I presume you understand why gcc-3.4 can't be bundled by default on the CD?09:51
crimsun[nrx] : have you checked the forum and mailing list archives?09:52
crimsun[nrx] : and barring that, Google?09:52
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LaserLineit didn't...09:52
eyequeuei can't believe how painfully slow the mirrors are now.  22k/s :(09:52
Syrussuse the torrents09:52
crimsuneyequeue: surely one of the mirrors is faster.09:52
[nrx] im not getting terribly far with any avenue09:52
Syrussfar far faster09:52
kYotiKhey crimsun u think if i reinstall xfce it might fix my probs? or do u think its just a bug? i know xfce4 is pretty new, do you think that problem will just reoccur?09:53
eyequeuecrimsun:  yeah, i'm installing new apps, wasn't sure i wanted to change mirrors for that (and wondered if they were all so slow now anyway)09:53
crimsunLaserLine: it did for me. I tested IBM's JREs and JDKs, Sun's JREs and JDKs, and Blackdown's JDK.09:53
Juhazcrimsun, because unfortunately cd's tend to have a limited size, but no, I don't really understand why the kernel couldn't be compiled with 3.3, then, I'm assuming there are perfectly good reason for that, but that doesn't make it any less convenient :)09:53
brentdaxMajor_Stitch: I'm not sure, but I think what you're asking for is the Backports repository.  Google for "Ubuntu backports".09:53
eyequeuecrimsun:  defecting to another continent for now though :)09:53
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Major_Stitchbrentdax: thank you09:54
crimsunJuhaz: 3.4 is better than 3.3 for the kernel. We couldn't bundle 3.4 by default because our userland is completely 4.0.09:54
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crimsunJuhaz: C++ libraries compiled with 4.0 are not compatible with ones compiled with 3.4.09:54
Major_Stitchbrentdax: but do you know can I just download FF new version from their site and then install it in ubuntu?09:54
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jas_Can anyone help me set up Samba server I got it running I just don't really know what I am doing with it..09:56
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joker667hi, I am missing the documentation on ubuntu.com. I am I too dumb to find it, or did it disappear?09:56
brentdaxYou can, but the next time Ubuntu releases a Firefox bugfix it might clobber the version you have installed.  Stick to the prepared packages if you can.09:56
NoWhereManI can't find out what's the kernel version in latest ubuntu09:56
zcat[1] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia09:56
zcat[1] But it's there in dmesg and lsmod :(09:56
esc_apehello. I am trying to use the command "make deb" in the terminal, but it says that is not a known command. any ideas?09:56
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  2.6.12-9, iirc09:56
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  uname -r09:57
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jas_joker667 : http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/helpcenter_view09:57
kYotiKcrimsun:  this xubuntu-desktop is xfce4???  cuz i dont see that anywhere in its package description.. i dont really understand what xubuntu-desktop is..09:57
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NoWhereManeyequeue, thanx, still preparing to install09:57
Major_Stitchbrentdax: so it would be wise to use programs from their repositories and install those that aren't there myself and update form their repositores?09:57
jas_joker667: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/helpcenter_view09:57
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  uname -r is for later then, heh09:57
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jas_Can anyone help me set up Samba server I got it running I just don't really know what I am doing with it..09:57
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crimsunkYotiK: xubuntu is a metapackage that depends on xfce4. It's the beginnings of a seed that we'll use for a Xubuntu 6.0409:57
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kYotiKhmm09:58
crimsunxubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, rather.09:58
zcat[1] anyone?09:58
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  2.6.12 with security patches backported, basically09:58
GNULinuxernalioth: how do i get usplash to work? i installed it, but i don't see any splash screen09:58
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NoWhereManeyequeue I know; i asked because I need the sources to install the adsl modem driver (cxacru); no kernel sources on the cd,right09:58
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crimsunGNULinuxer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)09:58
crimsunGNULinuxer: then reboot09:58
kYotiKso its just a new fork of ubuntu that utilizes xfce instead of gnome / kde ?? much like kubuntu is to ubuntu?09:58
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eyequeueNoWhereMan:  correct.  sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 though will fetch the tarball, if you don't get it manually09:59
brentdaxIt's wise to use the official repositories plus backports if you need them, and it's usually okay to manually install programs that aren't in either of them.09:59
crimsunkYotiK: it's not a fork, just like Kubuntu and Edubuntu are not forks. They're sister projects.09:59
sally_can someone with breezy look at  espn.com front page and tell me if the line that says "Page 2" under the picture of the Houston guy in front is cut off halfway09:59
eyequeuecrimsun:  is xubuntu-desktop ready for me to be recommending it yet?  or should i be waiting until dapper days?09:59
crimsuneyequeue: yes, it's quite ready.10:00
NoWhereManeyequeue d'oh, that's bad :P I can't download the source if I don't have the modem installed, and I cn't get to install the modem without sources10:00
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zcat[1] why is the gnome version not called gubuntu ?10:00
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  ouch10:00
brentdaxesc_ape: What are you expecting `make deb` to do?10:00
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joker667jas_, but I am missing the original doku, with the restricted formats page and so on.10:00
crimsunzcat[1] : because it's the original.10:00
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Juhazcrimsun, makes sense, c++ is a bitch. but why include 3.3, then? it's just as incompatible with the rest of userland10:00
saik0Why would a samba server let me broswe it when i logon with a given username and not login to the domain with the login?10:00
eyequeuezcat[1] :  "ubuntu" came first, the others are later variants, so they had to tweak the names :)10:00
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NoWhereManeyequeue do you know of cxacru (conexant) in ubuntu? (don't think so...)10:00
zcat[1] why are my nvidia drivers not working?10:00
crimsunzcat[1] : did you follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?10:01
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eyequeueNoWhereMan:  that's a winmodem driver?  i don't know of it, but i also would not be in tune with such things either, sorry10:01
crimsunJuhaz: backward compatibility with Warty and Hoary.10:01
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zcat[1] I'll take a look10:01
anthonyCrap... I installed xorg-driver-fglrx package and updated my xorg.conf file at the Driver section, changed it from ati to fglrx, now I try to revert the driver back to ati it doesn't work anymore...10:01
crimsunJuhaz: 18 months, remember?10:01
NoWhereManeyequeue it's a usb adsl modem ehehe. I was able to make it work in mandriva 2005 :)10:01
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  adsl here before i got to ubuntu at all :/10:01
anthonyWhenever I try to boot back into X my screen just went blank, tried dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg but no go.10:02
GNULinuxercrimsun: i have another strange problem. when i reboot, the laptop shuts down and tries to reboot, but never succeeds ... i don't see anything in the screen. it's blank10:02
Juhazright. okay, I stand enlightened10:02
esc_apebrentdax: I am trying to install ndiswrapper following the howto found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28SetupNdiswrapperHowto%2910:02
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  ah, mine is a simple ethernet-nic style adsl (fortunately)10:02
jas_Can anyone help me set up Samba server I got it running I just don't really know what I am doing with it..10:02
crimsunGNULinuxer: as in System> Logout> Reboot?10:03
GNULinuxercrimsun: that one, and just sudo reboot. both10:03
saik0could someone take a look at my smb.conf file and tell me why the comain controller is'nt working?10:03
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budluva_i know this might not be the best place to ask but im trying to run Railroad Tycoon 2 in breezy and it installs fine and when i go to run the game i get this error...Couldn't initialize SDL: Couldn't open X11 display10:03
budluva_......what is SDL?10:03
NoWhereManeyrqueue: I see. So, if I want to dowload _now_ the sources so that I have them for later, do I have just to download 2.6.12 ? no mods? from where? kernel.org?10:03
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brentdaxesc_ape: Do you have build_essentials installed?  What's the exact error you're getting?10:04
brentdax(Excuse me, build-essential.)10:04
eyequeuelol, nl.archive is slower than us.archive heh10:04
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crimsunGNULinuxer: interesting, I think it might be related to the POST_VIDEO option in /etc/default/acpi-support, but you'll want to check with mjg59, our ACPI guru.10:04
GNULinuxercrimsun: any ideas?10:04
GNULinuxercrimsun: okay. thanks10:04
Major_Stitchbrentdax: Thank you very much for your help!! You helped a lot!10:04
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  yes, kernel.org or one of its many mirrors should have it ... burn the tarball to a cd i guess?10:05
GNULinuxercrimsun: when will he come online?10:05
crimsunGNULinuxer: then again, that's a _resume_ option and not a reboot one.10:05
brentdaxMajor_Stitch: np.10:05
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Major_StitchOh and btw, Ubuntu ROCKS!!! I've used a few distros before and Ubuntu is by far the best!10:05
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GNULinuxercrimsun: hmm10:05
NoWhereManeyequeue: No, I'll just move it on the ntfs partition, that would do10:05
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crimsunGNULinuxer: he's online but probably still recovering. This last week has been hectic.10:05
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dazvidbudluva_: SLD = Simple Direct Media Layer10:06
brentdaxDefinitely.  First distro I've used that was good at looking out for itself and staying out of my way.10:06
James686ok...I installed version 5.10...and I STILL get a display error message thing with my Nvidia Geforce FX 5500 graphics card...10:06
MaTaKshelp pls a newbie here... how to configure shorewall?..  i dont know whats the command to configure shorewall10:06
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  as long as you can read it later, sure10:06
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sally_anyone who has some crap looking fonts and font sizes in firefox give this a try: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ... who knows why it's not done by default10:06
Razor-XDavidLeeRoth: SDL10:06
Razor-Xerrr10:06
NoWhereManeyequeue: ok, thanx :)10:06
Razor-Xdazvid: SDL10:06
Razor-Xmeh10:07
James686well?10:07
Razor-X1 AM makes your brain fuzzy10:07
dazvidlol sorry =p10:07
dazvidI need food10:07
brentdaxsally_: It's because those fonts are non-free--restrictive licensing on Microsoft's part.10:07
MaTaKshelp pls a newbie here... how to configure shorewall?..  i dont know whats the command to configure shorewall10:07
brentdaxSame reason Ubuntu doesn't have MP3 support out of the box.10:07
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eyequeueNoWhereMan:  it's too late for breezy of course, but consider filing a bug requesting support for that driver in dapper's install disks, eventually10:08
doogluswho recommended helix-player?  I tried it on a BBC News video and it told me to install RealPlayer!10:08
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sekundekhi! I just install pgadmin but I can't find it anywhere10:08
zcat[1] try mplayer + w32codecs10:08
zcat[1] realplayer blows!10:08
sekundekmaybe someone know where is installed by defautl10:09
crimsundooglus: helix-player does not contain support for the proprietary realmedia codecs10:09
doogluszcat[1] : can you play http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40545000/nb/40545855_nb_16x9.ram using mplayer?10:09
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zcat[1] yes10:09
dooglus!w32codecs10:09
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:09
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zcat[1] (I assume so; I've played other bbc streams with it)10:09
sitlehey10:09
NoWhereManeyequeue: well, it's not a bug, actually, more a "not implemented feature" :) but, sorry, what's this dapper's thingie?10:09
doogluszcat[1] : so have I.  could you try that one?10:09
brentdax"ubotu"?  Cute.10:09
doogluszcat[1] : it doesn't work for me.10:09
eyequeuedooglus:  just checked, firefox automatically used the mplayer-plugin for that url :)10:10
Razor-XI couldn't play it dooglus10:10
jas_I am trying to get my Lexmark P3150 printer to work can anyone help with this?10:10
saik0Anyone here tried gstreamer + pitfdll + w32 codecs on breezy and have everything work?10:10
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  you're aware breezy was just released today?  dapper is next april's equivalent new version10:10
doogluseyequeue: wow.10:10
zcat[1] Server returned 404: Not Found10:10
doogluseyequeue: using the w32codecs from http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/btdownload.php?type=torrent&file=w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb.torrent&PHPSESSID=a5442837d93d43956a40ef36baa7879c ?10:10
NoWhereManeyequeue: on my hd I do already have linux-2.6.12.6.tar.bz2 is that ok?10:11
zcat[1] Kinda suggests you'd have trouble playing it in anything :)10:11
Razor-Xyeah, same trouble here :P10:11
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NoWhereManeyequeue: i knew I downloaded it yesterday lol :)10:11
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  yeah, unpack that tarball and you'll have the complete kernel source tree10:11
NoWhereManeyequeue: than I'm ok to get started :)10:12
jas_I am trying to get my Lexmark P3150 printer to work can anyone help with this?10:12
NoWhereManeyequeue: thanx again bye10:12
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  i'm not sure on the .6 part, what version is current, but if you grabbed it yesterday, that should be adequate, heh10:12
eyequeuebye10:12
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zcat[1] Yesterday?!! If it's more than 6 hours old it's obsolete!!10:13
NoWhereManeyeque: hmmm... not rally I downloaded it a while ago, when I was still working with mandriva10:13
sekundekanyone know why my usb thumb drive can't be accessed. I get error  "The file or folder media:/sda does not exist."10:13
da_bon_bonNoWhereMan: trying to compile a kernel on ubuntu ?10:13
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NoWhereManjas_ did you try this: http://www.linuxprinting.org/foomatic.html I made work my lexmark z3310:13
eyequeueda_bon_bon:  he'll need to to get his adsl modem support :/10:13
cjhcjhcjhRazor-X,  I mailed u10:13
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NoWhereManda_bon_bon yeahm that's it10:14
eyequeueda_bon_bon:  meaning, before he can apt-get much10:14
cjhcjhcjhI have desktop, woot yay me!10:14
da_bon_boncompiling a kernel on ubuntu is not that easy :(10:14
brentdaxzcat[1] : That's a great impression of a ricer-y Gentoo user.  (Not that all Gentoo users are ricers, but there are a few...)10:14
Jedrickhow to configure shorewall? anyone please help10:14
da_bon_bonif you want to create a kernel package, that is10:14
bigfoot1During my hoary days, I had opera installed. But after upgrading to breezy, opera (shortcut) doesn't work. Many other programs don't work. WHat's up?10:14
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zcat[1] gotta love gentoo users :)10:14
NoWhereManda_bon_bon if all goes as it should I shouldn't compile the kernel at all10:14
da_bon_bonwhy, NoWhereMan ?10:15
da_bon_bonjust want the module ?10:15
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NoWhereManda_bon_bon it takes the kernel source just to configure10:15
NoWhereManand then compile10:15
NoWhereManthe module10:15
brentdaxIndeed.  (I have a Gentoo server, but that's so I can build everything with stack guards and such.  Gentoo is way too much work for a desktop.)10:15
da_bon_bonohok10:15
bigfoot1how come some stuff i have  in my drawer, such as "home directory" don't have icons anymore?10:15
da_bon_bonis it possible to change usplash's theme ?10:16
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NoWhereManbtw, i see linux-2.6.12.6.tar.bz2  is the latest, so it's ok :)10:16
zcat[1] brb; doing the binary driver thing10:16
crimsunda_bon_bon: if you mean the image, yes.10:16
crimsunda_bon_bon: there are certain requirements.10:17
budluva_anyone know how to temporarily hide the panel? im trying to play a game in fullscreen and the panel still shows10:17
da_bon_boncrimsun: great! can you point me to a howto ? or some guide ?10:17
da_bon_boncrimsun: what limitations ?10:17
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cjhcjhcjhreccomendations please for an x ftp client10:18
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crimsunda_bon_bon: read /usr/share/doc/usplash/{README.usplash,changelog.Debian.gz}10:18
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da_bon_bonthanks, crimsun :)10:19
dazvidis it better to do a fresh install of breezy or just upgrade?10:19
Danois it only for me or is ubuntu slower than win XP? (in the GUI)10:19
brentdaxcjh: Nautilus not doing it for you?10:19
crimsundazvid: either10:19
da_bon_bondazvid: i did an upgrade. no problems for me.10:19
Major_Stitchbye,bye! Thanks for everything people10:19
cafuego_dazvid: Upgrade is far quicker :-)10:19
da_bon_bondazvid: upgrade. you will save a lot of trouble, getting back the codecs and mplayer :D10:20
cafuego_dazvid: (and thus better, coz you get to play sooner)10:20
dazvidyeh true..10:20
dooglusbudluva_: right-click the panel, 'preferences', 'auto hide'10:20
dazvidI think my CD drive is buggered though10:20
cjhcjhcjhbrentdax, do I have that? where?10:20
dazvidIs there a way I can mount it on an imaginary drive?10:20
cafuego_dazvid: Just edit sources.list and do it online10:20
brentdaxcafuego_: The speed the servers are at, grabbing an ISO off BitTorrent and installing it might be easier.10:20
dazvidno thanks, I already downloaded the ISO10:20
dazvid:P10:20
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cafuego_brentdax: Poor bugger, my isp mirrors the lot locally :-)10:21
dooglusthey should invent a p2p way of updating too.10:21
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dooglusthat should be well do-able, right?10:21
cafuego_dazvid: sudo mount -o loop,ro breezy-install-386.iso /mnt10:21
Danohow do i get my laptop to run on full speed ? i want no throttling..10:21
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NoWhereManPLEASE someone could try modprobe cxacru ? just to let me know if maybe it already exist in 5.1010:21
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dazvidaaaaah excellent! thanks cafuego10:21
dazvidI go try that out10:21
cafuego_dooglus: Yes, install the patched libc6 from my local repository!10:21
brentdaxcjh: It's the program that does file windows, like if you open your home directory.  Use the "view" menu to turn on the location bar and type in the address, including ftp://10:22
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doogluscafuego_: why?10:22
cafuego_Dano: disable powernowd10:22
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cafuego_dooglus: That's the issue with p2p repositories.10:22
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eyequeueNoWhereMan:  FATAL: Module cxacru not found.10:22
NoWhereMand'oh10:22
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doogluscafuego_: what do you mean?  you mean you could hax0r my box?10:22
guillemwhere can I find post-upgrade instructions? (from hoary to breezy)10:22
NoWhereManeyequeue, btw thanx :)10:23
eyequeueNoWhereMan:  couldn't hurt to check :)  breezy here btw10:23
bjronis there any way to mount an iso and make ubuntu think it's actually a CD?10:23
cafuego_dooglus: What's to stop me from subverting any of the archives my node is hosting?10:23
brentdaxcafuego: So you use lots of hashes, like BitTorrent.  This isn't really that difficult.10:23
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ompaulI am looking for a tool that splits a console window in two vertically10:23
cafuego_brentdax: Except md5 is no longer secure...10:23
doogluscafuego_: I still get Release.gpg from the official repos.10:23
ompaulor horizantally10:23
doogluscafuego_: then if you modify anything, it won't install10:23
NoWhereManeyequeue: what if I copy the module from the mandriva i'm using?10:23
ompaulor horizontally10:23
DanoCafuego: thanks!10:23
lukashaving problems booting ubuntu when win xp is installed - can anyone help?10:23
ompaul!tell lukas about grub10:24
GNULinuxercrimsun: the usplash theme sucks ... any way to change it?10:24
cafuego_lukas: Help removing XP or help booting WITH xp? ;-)10:24
crimsunargh10:24
cafuego_GNULinuxer: Not trivially.10:24
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ompaullukas, the bot has send you a message it may help10:24
GNULinuxercafuego_: hmm10:24
bjronI downloaded the 5.10 iso, but my burner has died on me, so I'd like to mount the iso and add it to my sources list so I can upgrade10:24
crimsunsee what I just told da_bon_bon10:24
cafuego_GNULinuxer: There is compiling a shared lib involvement, I believe.10:24
guillemSorry! now I see the topic :-P10:24
brentdaxcafuego_: Okay, use SHA1 or SHA256 or TIGER if you want.10:25
lukasproblem is i don't get any choise at startup - the computer just runs win without asking...10:25
Danocafuego: I dont see why i should use cpu throttlse if i use laptop on power. do you?10:25
ompaulbjron, you can upgrade using >> sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <<10:25
da_bon_bonGNULinuxer: read /usr/share/doc/usplash/{README.usplash,changelog.Debian.gz}10:25
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cafuego_brentdax: I don't want at all! I just want my isp's mirror ;-)10:25
j_how to upgrade to breeze without downloading ISO?10:25
GNULinuxerda_bon_bon: thanks10:25
zcat[1] OK, I'm getting annoyed now.. xorg says my card is supported by nvidia-legacy drivers. I've already installed the nvidia-legacy package. I'm modprobing the driver. It's showing up in dmesg and lsmod, but when I try to start xorg with 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' it won't go.10:25
cafuego_j_: sudo perl -e "s/hoary/breezy/" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:26
da_bon_bonGNULinuxer: thank crimsun :)10:26
crimsunzcat[1] : paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:26
bjronompaul, yea, I know, but I think I'd cause less strain on the repo servers this way; I suspect they are quite busy at the moment, so I grabed the iso w/ a torrent10:26
doogluscafuego_: someone called sanxiyn was telling me about it yesterday...  Release.gpg is the signature for Release, which has the md5sums for Packages, which have the md5sums for individual packages - so unless you can sign packages using the ubuntu key, you can't get a tainted package installed.10:26
j_thanx10:26
ompaulj_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:26
AraviHmm, when I try to install kernel-headers, it tells me it can't get the kbuild packages10:27
GNULinuxercrimsun: what to do with the reboot issue?10:27
cafuego_dooglus: Well, when not using md5 but something more secure (like brentdax suggests) it would work.10:27
ompaulbjron, there is one marked rest of europe and they go for records, like most days they move more than kernel.org :)10:27
ompaulbjron, in .ie heanet10:27
crimsunGNULinuxer: does a cold boot work instead of a warm boot?10:27
guillemwow, the upgrade was so successful that I didn't have any of the possible issues stated at BreezyUpgradeNotes :-))10:27
doogluscafuego_: if you don't trust md5 then you're already vulnerable - the mirror you use could have been attacked10:27
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NoWhereManbye10:27
Danoany player that can play .wmv files under ubun?t10:27
GNULinuxercrimsun: cold boot as in ctrl+alt+del?10:28
lukasproblem is not about booting windows - I can't boot ubuntu10:28
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ompaul!tell Dano about restricted10:28
crimsunGNULinuxer: no, that's warm. Cold is power-cycle.10:28
asdxdoes breezy comes with initng?10:28
crimsunasdx: no.10:28
GNULinuxercrimsun: yes, that's what I do ... i do a hard reboot10:28
JedrickHow to configure shorewall?..10:28
guillemDano, mplayer is the one10:28
GNULinuxercrimsun: and there is no fsck ...10:28
juuvaI get "this connection was refused when trying to connect wiki.ubuntu.com", does wiki work?10:28
crimsunGNULinuxer: if you warm-boot, do you see console text at all?10:28
asdxwhat will be the next codename of ubuntu? :P10:29
crimsundapper10:29
guillemJedrick, firestarter is very easy to configure (GUI).... shorewall is more advanced, I know.10:29
vegiVampdoes someone know how I tell kubuntu/breezy not to start kscd or konqi when I insert a cd ?10:29
asdxcrimsun: dapper?10:29
bjronompaul, well, also I'm sort of curious if it can be done this way. . ;D10:29
crimsunvegiVamp: configure it in KDE's control center10:29
GNULinuxercrimsun: when i switch off the powerswitch and switch it on again, everything is normal10:29
ompaulasdx, dapper drake10:29
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Jedrickguillem:  where can i get firestarter?10:29
vegiVampcrimsun: I thought as much, but where :-)10:29
asdxompaul: ok10:29
crimsunGNULinuxer: right, but do you see console text at all10:29
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sampanjedrick  i second guillem's suggestion -- firestarter is dead easy to use and even setting up exceptions is easy with its on-the-fly policy changes10:29
budluvahelp me :P x borked on me, so i tried to reset it via ctrl-alt-backspace then it kicked me back to dmesg? stating checking battery.....ok and it sits there and sits there, so i try to switch to another console ctrl-alt-f1 and type startx but i get an XgetActiveScreen from module unresolved, so how can i kill that borked x session?10:29
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asdxompaul: that one will feature initng?10:29
crimsunvegiVamp: #kubuntu's better...10:29
vegiVampcrimsun: file associations/audio cd only lists konqi10:29
GNULinuxercrimsun: yes, i do ...10:30
vegiVampah, didn't know that existed :-)10:30
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crimsunGNULinuxer: ah, so it's only the X.org driver?10:30
ompaulasdx, you assume I would know that, I have no idea :)10:30
brentdaxWho picks the codenames?10:30
Jedricksampan: where can i get firestarter?10:30
Danoguillem: mplayer not in repository?10:30
asdxompaul: ok :)10:30
crimsunDano: multiverse10:30
GNULinuxercrimsun: i don't think so ... it's not a display issue ... i think the reboot process halts somewhere very early10:30
sampanjedrick, you should be able to get firestarter in synaptic ... or you can just use CLI: apt-get install firestarter (assuming you have your sources file set right) ... their website has a good tutorial10:31
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Danocrimson: ok.. is it recomended to run multiverse?10:31
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ompaulbrentdax, some guy called Mark Shuttleworth, he has the canonical view on this :)10:31
crimsunDano: that's up to you. multiverse contains packages with restrictive licenses.10:31
brentdaxAh, it's Shuttleworth.10:31
Danocrimsun: ok.. will test that.10:31
Jedrickok thnx.. can you help me when i get stuck?.. im a newbie and not familiar to linux :)10:31
budluvacan anyone help with my borked x session?10:32
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zcat[1] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/306110:32
sampancan try -- lots of people here to help ... www.fs-security.com  <-- firestarter website -- the default settings work good for me10:32
Danocrimsun: enable backports to, or just add multiverse?10:32
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da_bon_bonDano: restrictive licence and all .. but it contains cool and requerid stuff like flash and mplayer .. so enable it.10:33
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crimsunzcat[1] : you don't seem to have configured the legacy drivers correctly, and both dri and drm are still being loaded via /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:34
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asdxcool i like the new ubuntu bg =)10:34
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zcat[1] drm?10:35
Danodoes multiverse have security updates?10:35
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Jedricksampan:  dude i already installed the firestarter using apt-get whats next?10:36
da_bon_bonDano: mostly, yes.10:36
budluvaJedrick run it10:36
karjalaWhy is "ubuntu for servers" more appropriate for servers than the plain "ubuntu"? I can't find any information about that on the website10:36
sampanjedrick, you should run it and go through the wizard to configure it -- it's very easy to set up10:36
Jedrickammm..  i dunno how to run it :p10:36
aftertafkarjala:  no X, minimum install. you pick and choose in cli.10:36
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sampanJedrick, open a terminal window and type: sudo firestarter ... then give your password10:37
budluvaJedrick check Appliactions > System Tools > Firestarter10:37
brentdaxOkay, I've got an apparently good CD.  If I point Synaptic at it, will it replace the bad packages?  Will it have to re-download the good ones from the Internet?10:37
Jedrickok10:37
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lukasinstalled win xp and ubuntu on different drives and now ubuntu doesn't boot - what shall I do...10:37
Jedrickok thnx guys im now in graphical mode :) wooott10:38
AraviGPG Error: http://au.archive.com breezy-updates : The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>10:38
karjalaaftertaf: thanks...10:38
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cjhcjhcjhftp seems very slow...I am copying all files from a website to my desktop and it is taking 45 mins; it took about 2 mins on windoze...a speed test reports that I am connected at 993kbps...any thoughts?10:38
aftertafkar :)10:38
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jas_crimsun: Hey do you know anything about Samba Server?10:38
abhaykslucaas, did u install winXP afte ubuntu ?10:38
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jhankyeah, what's really the difference to ubuntu server?10:39
sampanlukas, this might be easy, but do you have your bios set to boot from the winxp drive?  if they're on separate drives and xp is on the one your bios looks to first, you won't ever get the option to boot to ubuntu10:39
crimsunjas_: I generally follow the documentation.10:40
jas_cafuego_: Hey do you know anything about Samba Server?10:40
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jas_crimsun: Yeah I tried that it didn't go so well..10:41
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kemikjhank:  samba is for filesharing and printersharing on windows networks10:41
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kemik(and can be used with linux-only networks aswell, of course)10:41
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Jedricksampan: ok now im done setting the firewall.. what if i want to stop the firewall, what would be the command in terminal?10:42
lukasbut if I set the ubuntu drive as boot i bios - the computer says: can't find operating system10:42
kemikJedrick:  iptables -F  ithink10:43
kemikman iptables10:43
sampanjedrick, you could kill the process ... but if it's in your icon tray, just click the icon and then when the window pops up, hit the "stop" button :D10:43
jhankkemik i know... but what does the server installation procedure?10:43
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kemikjhank:  sorry, i dont understand you question10:44
Jedrickdam it's not on my icon tray10:44
kemikJedrick:  iptables -F will flush all rules (ie: no firewall)10:44
sampankemik, he's using firestarter10:44
Jedrickok10:44
jhankkemik i can choose before the installation cd boots between just ENTER and server installation... what's happening in server installation?10:44
Jedrickim using firestarter10:44
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kemikfirestarter is just a frontend to iptables afaik10:44
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kemikbut maybe it resets the rules if it detects them being flushed?10:45
sampannot sure -- but if it's still running it might just reset them -- not sure :X10:45
Jedrickey dude i can see it on my tray now.. :)10:45
kemikjhank:  serverinstall wont install X / Gnome etc10:45
jhankah i see... so just a base system.... and does it install any server-related features?10:46
sampanjedrick, cool :)10:46
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kemikjhank:  dont think so.. think you'll have to aptget the particular daemons... but im not 100...10:47
Danois breezy-backports down?10:47
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jhankthanks kemik10:48
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syndchecking for gaim >= 1.0.0... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found10:48
syndconfigure: error: Library requirements (gaim >= 1.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.10:49
syndGetting that error.10:49
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drewI want to change the default OS in grub, but how do I edit menu.lst?  I can only open it read only10:49
syndWhen trying to ./configure a Gaim XMMS plugin10:49
syndAny help?10:49
Jedricksampan:  thnx dude... now i have now my firewall... muwahahahhah :D10:49
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sampanjedrick, you're welcome :)  i'm a newb myself, so easy-to-use tools are my favorite :D10:50
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Nomad_XI am looking for a good FTP server that can have many accounts with various file permissions.  Any ideas guys?10:50
Danoproftpd10:50
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Danoor pureftpd10:50
ompaulI am looking for a tool that splits a console window in two vertically or horizontally10:51
Nomad_Xwhy not vsftp?10:51
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Danoompaul:screen10:51
selinium_morining ompaul :)10:51
DanoNomad_X: that might work.. i have never test it :)10:51
selinium_Mornig*10:51
ccookeompaul: screen will do it vertically. Horizontally is... *very* difficult.10:52
Belutzdrew, open it using sudo10:52
selinium_Morning**10:52
selinium_:)10:52
ccookeompaul: and would quite likely be very slow.10:52
dooglusI installed the w32codes, but still can't play BBC News videos.  I see an error from mplayer: "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll".  Any idea what's wrong?10:52
Nomad_Xso you have good experiences with the other two though?10:52
brentdaxIt might work this time!  (Famous last words...)10:52
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dooglusompaul: Emacs can split the screen horizontally or vertically (or both)10:52
ccookescreen also allows you to run any number of virtual terminals in one window.10:52
Nomad_Xmy buddy at Rack Space recomends nothing but VSFTP are there any cons??10:52
drewbelutz, thanks, works a treat10:53
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ompaulthanks ccooke dano dooglus10:53
ompaulmornin selinium10:53
Tewealoha!~!!!!10:53
Tewewhat are you?10:54
Tewei don't know your language10:54
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selinium_dooglus, Aren't the bbc files realmedia files? .rm types?10:55
dooglusselinium_: they are,yes.10:55
Dano"mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable" when i try to install mplayer..10:55
selinium_dooglus, install realplayer :)10:55
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dooglusselinium_: I'd rather not.  And some people here have got mplayer playing the BBC real media.10:56
dooglushttp://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40545000/nb/40545855_nb_16x9.ram is an example that I can't play10:56
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NgDano: try installing mplayer-586 from multiverse10:56
Seveasdooglus, or realmedia you need w32codecs10:56
DanoNg: not mplayer-686?10:57
dooglusSeveas: I just installed w32codecs.10:57
NgDano: no, that's just a dummy package10:57
El_Chedooglus: install realplayer for linux?10:57
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SeveasDann0, -586 and -686 actually are the same :)10:57
DanoNg: ok10:57
dooglusEl_Che: I prefer mplayer.10:57
Dano:)10:57
James686so...why do I get a Fatal Error: No Screens Available blue screem error message thing?10:57
otephttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3064  <--- can anyone help me regarding this?10:57
DanoNg: that seems to work. thanks10:57
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Ngotep: there is no breezy-backports yet, you can disable that source for now10:58
doogluseyequeue: do you have avisynth.dll somewhere?  "locate avisynth"?10:58
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James686??10:58
dooglus(it was eyequeue who could play that BBC news footage in mplayer)10:58
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mirko87hi10:59
otepNg: thanks10:59
DanoNg: no gui for mplayer?10:59
dooglusotep: that's interesting.  I had the same problem recently.  what do you see if you "ls /var/lib/apt/lists"?10:59
NgDano: mplayer should also install gmplayer, which is graphical11:00
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otepdooglus: actually, its not my "problem". am still on hoary. a friend just asked me =)11:00
dooglusoh, backports, I see.11:00
sorush20guys I can't format my floppy in KDE I keep getting can not access /dev/fd0u144011:01
DanoNg: Thanks again :)11:01
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sorush20and also my hotplug system isn't working11:01
dooglus!w32codecs11:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)11:01
mirko87Sorry, i have a problem in the terminal i use the command "su" but no function... how i can go to root with gnome... ?11:02
dooglusis there any more information available on the w32codecs?  like how to get them to work with real media?11:02
dooglus!tell mirko87 about root11:02
El_Chemirko87: root is disable, use sudo followed by the command11:02
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Renski!tell Renski about root11:02
sorush20now I get the error unexpected density number 0 when I try to format a floppy11:02
El_Chemirko87: if you really want to enable the root account, type passwd root11:03
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dooglusEl_Che: you mean "sudo passwd" I think11:03
Renskisudo passwd root11:03
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mirko87ooo really tanks (sorry for speaking me ita)11:05
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ompaulmirko87, the way to do it is "sudo command" if you want to stick with the ubuntu paradigm, which works rather well tbh11:05
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moogmanHey. I just realised that Ubuntu 5.10 has installed my DVB TV card, yay. What is the best program to view channels with?11:06
Illuv_When you upgrade to breezy, it should upgrade openoffice from 1.1 to 2.0, no?11:06
zcat[1] "sudo su -" works quite nicely :)11:06
moogmanIlluv_: Yes :)11:06
Illuv_hmm11:06
moogmansudo -s works better11:06
Illuv_I still run 1.1 :S11:06
karjalaCan I upgrade Debian stable to Ubuntu just by changing the apt/sources.list file?11:07
moogmanIlluv_: They are different packages11:07
Illuv_ah, thx11:07
dooglusI think "sudo -i" is the "recommended" way of breaking the "no root logins" rule11:07
moogmanIlluv_: I believe you'll need to install openoffice-base2 or so11:07
zcat[1] nah, -s gives you the same user environment, su - gives you root's environment11:07
rob^ltkarjala, yes11:07
Illuv_moogman: thanks, i'll take a look11:07
minktoastnew breezy install - enabled remote desktop, but get conection refused in VNC when trying from my windows box.  what else should i do?11:07
rob^ltkarjala, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:07
rob^ltkarjala, sometimes things break though as Debian is a little different to Ubuntu11:08
karjalarob^lt: thx11:08
rob^ltits been hit and miss on a few boxes for me11:08
ccookemoogman: MythTV is very good. I've not actually used it with a DVB card, but it does have support for them11:08
ccookemoogman: and it's a pretty excellent piece of work11:08
karjalarob^lt: Ok, I'll test on my test server first11:08
zcat[1] OK, my nvidia drivers are still not working :(11:09
moogmanccooke: Hmm. It seemed a bit bloaty to me. Adding a mythtv user, setting up sql server. Does it run fast?11:09
sorush20guys what does this mean Currently, fdmount is not set up as setuid root.  Good.11:10
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karjalarob^lt: do things mainly break when the conf files are different? Or what else is different? The directory structure?11:10
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ssuhlHi There11:10
zcat[1] "apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-nvidia-legacy" should have installed the legacy drivers, but even after a reboot I still have thw wrong drivers. Running the nvidia binary installer wants to build custom drivers, but I do not feel like downloading and building the entire kernel source first if I can avoid that. any suggestions..?11:10
rob^ltkarjala, once I had a system that wouldn't boot11:11
karjalarob^lt: did you find the cause of that?11:11
moogmanAh, mythtv is in multiverse11:12
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rob^ltkarjala, no, it was easier just to reinstall ubuntu from scratch, I usually keep /home on its own partition11:12
ccookemoogman: yes.11:12
ssuhlGot a question about the Evolution 2.4 - I'm using the Exchange Connector and I'm missing this little red Exchange button on the bottom left (near contacts, etc...) where I can edit my Favorite Directories on the Exchange Server. Any idea?11:12
ccookemoogman: It uses the SQL server to store program data and configuration11:13
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ccookemoogman: and it's split into front and back end - the front-end can run on a different box, it just accesses the backend and database.11:13
ccookemoogman: you can even run multiple front ends11:13
moogmanccooke: Indeed. It's not a huge problem. I'll probably use SQL for something else too11:13
moogmanccooke: Hmm, that is interesting. Does the backend contain all the TV decoder logic?11:14
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ccookemoogman: yep.11:14
ccookemoogman: and the recording code, too11:14
moogmanSuch that I could install the TV card in my server and then just pipe it over the network?11:14
ccookemoogman: yep.11:14
ccookemoogman: I do that at home11:14
sorush20I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found11:15
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ccookemoogman: 802.11b is *just* too low bandwidth for the video. But 802.11g is perfect.11:15
moogmanccooke: Ah nice. I've got sqld running on server anyway, so I guess thats the best solution. Thank you.11:15
ccookemoogman: with the DVB card, you may be able to avoid encoding the video, too11:15
sorush20I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found... but I can mount the floppy and browse11:15
dooglusSeveas: is it possible to play realmedia files without installing the realplayer?11:15
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Da_SWAThow can I reboot if "sudo reboot" doesn't work?11:15
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zcat[1] dooglus: yes; mplayer + w32codecs will do it.11:16
moogmanccooke: Yeah, it comes through as MPEG-2, so it'd just have to decrypt it and write to disk I imagine.11:16
Seveasdooglus, yeah, it works for me with mplaeyer+w32codecs11:16
ccookemoogman: oh - and you can plug as many tv sources into mythtv as you have CPU power for.11:16
abhayksDa_SWAT, sudo -s  " reboot"11:16
dooglusSeveas: do you have "avisynth.dll" anywhere?11:16
Ky0tIkwhats the fastest mirror right now for US residents?11:16
Da_SWATI'll try thnx abhayks11:16
zcat[1] sudo /sbin/reboot might work11:16
ccookemoogman: only one frontend or recording process can have one video input at any one time, of course. However, if you're recording something any number of frontends can stream it11:16
doogluszcat[1] : I tried mplayer + w32codecs - no go - can't find avisynth.dll11:17
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moogmanccooke: My server is only a 700MHz Duron, but I'm eventually hoping to make a nice DVB box for the living room.11:17
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sorush20why I try to mount I get this message sam@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/fd0 mount: mount point /media/fd0 does not exist11:17
chriswksudo init 6 should also work11:17
ccookemoogman: takes a *little* work to get the channels sorted out (the backend config). Mostly it's very easy. The frontend just asks you for language and DB location, and then just works.11:17
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smartbhaihi people .. i cant install ubuntu amd64 onto a machine with sata hard disk11:18
dooglussorush20: you have to "sudo mkdir /media/fd0" if that's where you want it mounted11:18
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moogmanccooke: Yeah, I've just used scan and tzap for the channels.conf dump. I think Myth can work with that.11:18
Da_SWATabhayks, it doesn't work. (cant execute binary file)11:18
segosaI upgraded to breezy via apt-get and it never asked me for a reboot, is that normal?11:18
smartbhaihi people .. i cant install ubuntu amd64 onto a machine with sata hard disk11:18
ccookemoogman: Getting the channels right is more or less difficult depending on where you live. It's annoying in the UK, but doable.11:18
smartbhaiit says not mountable device found11:18
dooglussegosa: you need to reboot to get the new kernel running11:18
Jackoanyone know how to get the window menu in konqueror and the konsole window inside konqueror as they don't seem to be there. Just installed the new Kubuntu11:19
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segosadooglus: but it won't specifically ask me, right? okay11:19
moogmanccooke: Yeah, I've done it before with warty+tzap+mplayer+lots of pain, so I have a channel listing with frequencies somewhere11:19
rob^ltJacko, try #kubuntu11:19
dooglussegosa: once you've installed breezy, it gets better at nagging...11:19
ccookemoogman: sensible!11:19
Jackocheer11:19
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segosadoes it nag over the commandline? it's a server install :p11:19
segosadoesn't matter anyway, being rebooted now11:20
mustard5How can I set up my sound to play sound from mulitple sources?11:20
sorush20dooglus: it does it in the /media/fd0,11:20
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Renskiim trying sudo apt-cache search mplayer, and it doesnt seem to be working11:20
moogmanccooke: using "scan" is a no-brainer, as you just select e.g. uk-Mendip (which comes as part of the package), and it'll do the scanning for you, so you just > channels.conf :)11:20
stevejesusHi guys!11:20
zcat[1] does anyone know if/why the 'nvidia-legacy' packages don't actually install the nvidia-legacy drivers?11:20
zcat[1] Or how to get nvidia-legacy drivers installed short of downloading and building a whole new kernel?11:21
stevejesusLongtime Fedora user seeks shoulder to cry on11:21
rob^ltzcat[1] , its probably just a transition package11:21
Renski"couldnt find package mplayer" when i try and apt-get11:21
Renski(this is for hoary)11:21
Da_SWAThow can I force a reboot? (sudo reboot) doesn't work?11:21
ccookemoogman: hmm. I'll try it when Iget around to grabbing a DVB input11:21
ktogiasDa_SWAT, try halt11:22
zcat[1] bah, I want my GL!!11:22
moogmanccooke: Ah yeah sorry, forgot you said about !DVB.11:22
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zcat[1] Da_SWAT: "sudo /sbin/reboot"11:22
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: what do you mean reboot doesn't work?11:22
dooglussegosa: aah..  when you guys tell me "mplayer + w32codecs", which mplayer package do you mean?  I use "mplayer-nogui" - could that be the difference?11:22
segosao_O11:22
ccookemoogman: I'm just using a TV card plugged into the cable box. Which requires an external IR device to change channel...11:23
sampleGuys is there a problem with the repo site11:23
ccookemoogman: *that* took a little work to set up11:23
stevejesusso, can anyone aid me in my transition from Fedora?  I used Fedora since FC1.  I am very familiar with it.  Most things carry over, but there are some things I cannot triumph here.11:23
Da_SWATzcat[1] ,GNULinuxer I do a "sudo reboot" and it gives the message that it WILL reboot, but it just doesn't. I guess it hangs somewhere11:23
stevejesuscan anyone help?11:23
moogmanccooke: FYI, I've got the WinTV DVB card. Ubuntu loads the cx88 module for me.11:23
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: and you get a blank screen?11:23
moogmanccooke: Yeah, I'll probably be back asking about my remote in a few hours :)11:23
Ky0tIkhmm what all is on the DVD of Breezy?11:23
Da_SWATGNULinuxer, not even. It's all intact :(11:23
ccookemoogman: heh. lirc is marginally difficult to get working.11:24
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: are you using a laptop?11:24
Da_SWATnope, desktop11:24
stevejesusI suppose not.11:24
stevejesusthanks anyhow11:24
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ktogiasstevejesus, Be more spesific... What are you trying to do and do not know how?11:24
Da_SWATI think it has something to do with the fact that my apt-get dist-upgrade didn't work (it also hung)11:24
Belutzwhy my breezy installation stops at testing network repository ??11:24
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: a similar thing happens with my laptop ... everything is shut down, but it never reboots ... i have to switch if off manually and switch on again11:24
stevejesusOh I know what I am doing.  If i could just find out whats going on with this multiverse repo, I would be golden.11:25
Ky0tIkBelutz: the repos are hammered11:25
Da_SWATGNULinuxer, damn, taht sucks11:25
moogmanccooke: Haha, just mashed my remote. Turns out that the "power" button on remote brings up the Ubuntu shutdown screen. Useful...11:25
stevejesusI am fresh meat to ubuntu so I dont know where it is, and why its directories seems to be empty11:25
Ky0tIkBelutz: its because everyone is downloading and updating...  it will finish eventually though11:25
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: yes, the dist-upgrade was messy ... but i fixed it somehow ...11:25
BelutzKy0tIk, well then, the installer should skip the process11:25
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: now I need to fix the reboot issue11:25
Ky0tIkBelutz: it wont skip because its essential to the install11:25
ccookemoogman: moogman ... what sort of remote is it?11:26
Da_SWATGNULinuxer, what would the halt command do?11:26
BelutzKy0tIk, what if  I installed it in a non-network computer?11:26
stevejesusI began the ubuntu journey last night, and I still havent gotten to a point where Im ready to untar my home dir from Fedora11:26
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: halt will shut down but won't switch off the power i guess11:26
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RenskiI cant get my sound working, can anyone help?11:26
ccookestevejesus: what's the problem you're seeing?11:26
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: halt -p will do that11:26
dooglusRenski: there are a bunch of different packages11:27
moogmanccooke: Holy crap. Volume control buttons bring up a Ubuntu volume control, and some button opens my CD drive haha11:27
Ky0tIkBelutz: it will install the base and the few packages on your system if it doesnt detect a network connection..  i am pretty sure of this anyway..11:27
moogmanccooke: I'm using hte one that comes with the DVB card11:27
stevejesusDoes anyone know anything about that?11:27
ccookemoogman: ahhhh. Then the DVB driver may do it.11:27
dooglusmplayer-386 mplayer-586 mplayer-686 mplayer-custom mplayer-doc mplayer-fonts mplayer-k6 mplayer-k7 mplayer-nogui11:27
alien8good morning peeps, scsi scan: 96 byte inquiry failed. consider  BLIST_INQUIRY_36 for this device. Um... USB keyboard and mouse. all were ok on the hoary kernel. ho hum.11:27
Ky0tIkstevejesus: your wanting to use the home directory you had in fedora on ubuntu?11:27
ccookestevejesus: about what? What's your actual problem?11:27
BelutzKy0tIk, well then i'll installed it without the network first, after it installed, i choose the mirror11:28
Da_SWATGNULinuxer, I'm just trying /sbin/reboot -f..... forcing it to do my bidding11:28
stevejesusIm sorry, maybe you missed some of that.  My home dir is inconcequential haha.11:28
stevejesusmy problem is repos11:28
ccookeWhat problem are you having with the repositories?11:28
Ky0tIkstevejesus: the repos are giving a lot of peeps problems11:28
ccooke(Just call me Eliza)11:28
Ky0tIkyou'd have to modify your sources.list11:28
stevejesusI installed ubuntu breezy badger last night having no clue that it was just released.  Which is always a bad idea11:29
Ky0tIkno11:29
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Ky0tIkbreezy is very stable11:29
stevejesusAt least... in my experience11:29
ccookestevejesus: no, released means it's stable.11:29
Ky0tIkubuntu is a lot diff than fedora11:29
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Ky0tIktrust me you will be surprised here11:29
Ky0tIkubuntu stays bleeding age side of stable11:29
ompaulfedora is not a measure of anything11:29
Ky0tIknot like fedora where it stays unstable when it says stable11:30
stevejesusOh, it seems that way.  but I was talking with John Dong earlier today about "backports" and he made me convince myself that I should try out Hoary11:30
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Ky0tIkhmm11:30
stevejesussso... now I am talking to you fine folks from a Hoary install11:30
Da_SWATGNULinuxer, my pc wont even reboot using the -f flag (force).......11:30
stevejesusNEARLY fresh11:30
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Da_SWATGNULinuxer, and hardware reboot is so messy :(11:30
Ky0tIki dont see why you would want to use backports with hoary instead of using breezy with the breezy things..11:30
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kemikmakes no sense to me11:31
stevejesuswell...  I dont know either11:31
stevejesusthats why Im here11:31
moogmanccooke: Thanks for your help. I'll probably be back after. BTW, do you know the default password for the mythtv user offhand?11:31
Ky0tIkbackports are like a crutch for hoary in my opinion11:31
stevejesusI honestly dont care so much which version I am running.  I just need to get some packages from the restricted repos11:31
Ky0tIkbreezy is very very good right now11:31
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kemikstevejesus:  install a fresh breezy ;)11:31
Ky0tIki have been using breezy for about 2 months now11:32
Ky0tIkand its been very reliable even in those times before it was released11:32
stevejesuswell, kemik, I already did, but I couldnt get to any packages I needed11:32
Ky0tIkmuch much more than RHEL411:32
michuxAny Apache guys here?11:32
Ky0tIkso go figure how much it would compare to ur FC history11:32
michuxCuz the apache channel is dead and i got a configuration problem with mod_rewrite11:32
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thuneonhi there11:33
stevejesuswell, my FC history has been rather good11:33
Ky0tIkwell get ready for it to be rather better11:33
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stevejesusThere were just a few problems that I couldnt get past, and after reading the WIKI at ubuntu I was sold on trying it11:33
Ky0tIkmuch more i mean much more packages to choose from11:33
Ky0tIklots less bugs11:33
npivI logged in as root in console , now sudo isnt working anymore ? any idea how I can reset this to work once more ?11:33
thuneonmy ubuntu 5.10 release 64bit freeze after login in gdm. On Slpash Screen it freeze completly. Kernel is 2.6.1611:33
kemik!tell npiv about root11:34
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thuneonon gnome splash screen11:34
Ky0tIkstevejesus:  i cant really compare ubuntu to redhat or fc... i used redhat since version 2.x11:34
stevejesuswell... to be honest.  I never had any trouble getting packages in Fedora for whatever I needed.  But I cant get much of anything so far in ubuntu11:34
kemiknpiv:  or are you trying to "sudo" when logged in as root ?11:34
Ky0tIki used FC 1 - 4, and RHEL 2 - 411:34
Ky0tIki switched to ubuntu and dont ever plan to go back11:34
kemiki never liked redhat11:34
kemikor well, the startup scripts are better than the system debian uses11:35
stevejesuswell, make me like you.  Help me find what I need so I can get back up and running full force.11:35
Ky0tIkwell i never liked how debian took so long for their releases11:35
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ccookemoogman: sorry, was elsewhere. I think it's not passworded. Set one using sudo passwd mythtv11:35
Ky0tIkand i dont like how slackware is layed out11:35
kemikstevejesus:  what's not working ?11:35
Shadowpillarwho here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?11:35
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stevejesusrepos.  Just multiverse11:35
Ky0tIkand i just liked redhat from the early stages.. and never moved on.. til i finally got tired of all the RPM shit and all the dephells11:35
npivkemik, well I did an original sudo passwd to set a passwd, things worked fine. Then yesterday I swithced to terminal to do some work and logged in as root. since then sudo doesnt accept my password anymore11:35
stevejesusI need an alternative11:35
Ky0tIkthen i found ubuntu and im very very glad i did11:35
Shadowpillarwho here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?11:35
sorush20guys I keep getting this error when I try to install hotplug have a look... in flood11:35
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sekundekis it possible to have bookmark in kconsole to external host11:36
sekundek?11:36
kemikstevejesus:  need alternatives to universe/multiverse ?11:36
ccookestevejesus: I don't understand what isn't actually working. Are you saying you can't get multiverse - and only multiverse - working?11:36
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Ky0tIkthats weird11:36
stevejesusyes, and yes11:36
twilightnpiv, something wrong in /etc/sudoers?11:36
kemikand you did apt-get update?11:36
Ky0tIkbc multiverse and universe come off the same servers usually11:36
kemikand edited sources.list ?11:36
ccookestevejesus: do you have multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.list?11:36
stevejesusof course11:36
Shadowpillarwho here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?11:37
stevejesushaha11:37
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kemikstevejesus:  paste your sources.list somewhere on pastebin11:37
stevejesusEverything looks dandy!11:37
ccookestevejesus: does 'sudo apt-get update' show any errors?11:37
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Ky0tIkstevejesus: yea paste it to pastebin.com and we'll tell ya what to add to the lines11:37
thuneonno ideas ?11:37
stevejesuspaste bin?11:37
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kemik!pastebin11:37
Ky0tIkpastebin.com11:37
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:37
stevejesusok11:37
Ky0tIkstevejesus: i guess your a yum / up2date person huh?11:38
stevejesushttp://pastebin.com/39328211:38
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stevejesusyes.  much experience with yum11:38
stevejesusmy interest in it declined after YUM 2.0 hit11:39
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stevejesusthey got rid of --force!!!11:39
kemikstevejesus:  those backports are ba11:39
kemikbad11:39
stevejesusso much roming to be done by hand...11:39
kemikdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted11:39
stevejesusyeah?11:39
Ky0tIkbackports arent a good thing they have been causing lots of problems11:40
quickskemik, isn't this backports closed?11:40
Ky0tIki think you would be a lot better off to do a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade   ;)11:40
quicksky0tik, what? since when?11:40
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stevejesuscan one of you paste YOUR list for ME?  it may save us both time11:40
scanwinderwhat command do i use to mount an ntfs partition with read and write permissions?.........just "mount /dev/hdc1 /media/windows" isnt giving me write permissions11:40
Jedrickhow to scan all files from virus using clamav anti-virus?11:40
kemikthey've closed backports cus breezy is released?11:40
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kemik!tell stevejesus about sources11:40
Ky0tIkquicks:  since a while11:40
stevejesusI've heard alot about apt but never used it till yesterday.11:40
kemikscanwinder:  dont try to write to ntfs11:41
kemikscanwinder:  its bad for you..11:41
Ky0tIkstevejesus:  its a lot better system for package updating than the up2date network and yum in redhat...11:41
scanwinderkemik: why? i really need 2 write to it11:41
stevejesusI was bound to YUM as I started udsing linux with yellowdog a few years back11:41
quicksky0tik, then it's recommended to do the upgrade (as it's explained in ubuntu wiki)?11:41
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quicksright?11:41
Ky0tIkquicks:  thats completely up to you11:41
JDigitalscanwinder: you can't write to NTFS11:42
Ky0tIkbut in my opinion yes11:42
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stevejesusup2date is a peirrcing evil in my heart11:42
Jedrickhow to scan all files from virus using clamav anti-virus?11:42
kemikscanwinder:  look into "captive" then...11:42
stevejesusi have mass distaste for it11:42
scanwinderkemik: ok11:42
deFryskyum is also a piece of sillyness11:42
quicksky0tik, hmmm. should i wait for a while, and then upgrade?11:42
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JDigitalIt's because NTFS is a Microsoft-only standard and they won't tell anyone how NTFS works11:42
doogluswelp, I uninstalled mplayer-nogui and replaced it with mplayer-586. it still complains that it can't find avisynth.dll...11:42
dooglushow did you people get it to work?11:42
Seveas!find avisynth.dll11:42
JDigitalbut "captive" uses MS' own NTFS driver DLL so it provides a way around this limitaton11:42
Ky0tIkstevejesus: start out with synaptic if you wish its the GUI apt interface.. its pretty good.. plus it lets you modify your sources.list in a GUI fashion if you prefer that..11:43
stevejesusi dont prefer GUI's11:43
stevejesusno use11:43
Ky0tIkok then just use vi11:43
Ky0tIk:D11:43
stevejesusat least for package management11:43
robotgeekKy0tIk: vi/vim is the way to go :)11:43
quicksky0tik, hmmm. should i wait for a while, and then upgrade?11:43
robotgeekstevejesus: use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade11:43
kemikindeed vi/vim :)11:43
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Ky0tIkahhh synaptic is much different than the gui interfaces you are use to with rh/fc11:43
kemik!start an editor war11:44
ubotunano is better than xemacs11:44
stevejesusyeah, same concept11:44
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'avisynth.dll' returned no results.11:44
deFrysklol kemik11:44
Nomad_XAny cons with VSFTP?11:44
stevejesusI used it earlier to get some HIGHLY necessary packages11:44
Seveasvsftpd is the best oen11:44
Seveasone*\11:44
robotgeekstevejesus: the file to edit to add repositories is /etc/apt/sources.list11:44
stevejesuskemik can you paste me a sources.list?11:44
Ky0tIkstevejesus: i would do a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade11:44
Nomad_Xany good texts out there on how to configure it11:45
Ky0tIkand its completely safe to do so11:45
stevejesusI am aware.  the one I pasted is one I saved earlier11:45
kemikstevejesus:  didnt ubotu do so ?11:45
dooglusSeveas: what is !find?  do you mean "apt-cache search"?  or what?11:45
stevejesusshould it have?  I used what I saw in the WIKI, which I guess is now out of date11:45
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Ky0tIkstevejesus: try what we said11:45
Jedrickis there an online virus scan for linux?11:45
Ky0tIkjust do the update and dist-upgrade11:46
robotgeekdooglus: i've never used the w32codecs before, but for all windows codecs, install w32codecs11:46
Ky0tIkif your in hoary it is completely safe to do so11:46
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dooglusrobotgeek: w32codecs doesn't include avisynth.dll11:46
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robotgeekJedrick: why virus scan linux?11:46
robotgeekdooglus: ah okay, i am on ppc :)11:46
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stevejesuswell, Im not sure I want to upgrade back to breezy again tonite.11:46
Jedrickmaybe im infected :)11:46
dooglusrobotgeek: why not?11:46
Ky0tIkstevejesus:  pm me11:46
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stevejesusWill I be able to get all the packages available in Hoary?11:46
deFrysklol Jedrick11:46
Ky0tIkstevejesus: there are almost 20000 packages in breezy11:47
robotgeekdooglus: no virii on linux.11:47
GNULinuxercrimsun: the issue was solved once i compiled my own kernel!11:47
Nomad_XLinux = Virus Free11:47
dooglusrobotgeek: nonsense.11:47
doogluswhy would linux be virus free?11:47
Jedrickrobotgeek:  really?.. no virus on linux?11:47
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ompaulJedrick, you can't be unless you are running windows11:47
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deFrysklinux = free as in virus free :)11:47
Ky0tIkstevejesus: as far as i know the packages in hoary are for breezy too..  everything i have needed has been there..11:47
Jedrickwow koool!11:48
Seveas<deFrysk> linux = free as in virus free :) <-- nice one :)11:48
Ky0tIkof course i dont know about every single package b/c im sure our needs are a lil different11:48
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dooglusthere's nothing special about linux that makes it immune from viruses11:48
Jedrickso no need to install clamav anti virues then :p11:48
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robotgeekJedrick: no virii, cause they can't run..unless you put them there11:48
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mariehiy11:48
deFryskSeveas, thought so hehe11:48
mariehi11:48
robotgeekmarie: hi11:48
kemikstevejesus:  my sources are for breezy now ;)11:48
stevejesusPM sent11:48
GNULinuxerDa_SWAT: try recompiling a fresh kernel ... my problem was solved with a new kernel11:48
marieasl pls11:48
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Ky0tIkdooglus:  for one it doesnt use an open system registry prone to attacks like windows does...11:48
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mariehi11:49
Jedrickthen all people should use linux then for it's virus free :)11:49
mariehi11:49
=== neuro|laptop is very happy to see seeds in the breezy dvd torrent :)
neuro|laptopthere were none last night :(11:49
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dooglushttp://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.rst.b.html11:49
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robotgeekmarie: we don't do that here, check #ubuntu-offtopic11:49
dooglus^-- a linux virus11:49
helloyoi did a fresh install of breezy and now my mouse scroll wheel doesn't scroll, what do i chance in xorg.conf?11:49
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mariehi yvonne11:50
helloyoits a basic 2 button scroll wheel optical microsoft mouse btw11:50
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stevejesusKy0tik:  I sent you a PM.  where have you gone?11:50
robotgeekdooglus: 200211:50
Kvarki messed up gnomes panels completely, now there is nothing on them and clicking or right clicking on them doesn't do anything, how to recover from that?11:50
Ky0tIkdooglus:  two it has many more security measures................3 it doesnt operate on a shell that has internet access  and direct system access. like the stupid explorer in windows....   without explorer windows doesnt work... without explorer you have no virus's thats pretty much the easiest way to say it11:50
Ky0tIkstevejesus: i didnt get a pm11:50
stevejesushrrrrmmmm11:50
neuro|laptopneed to be registered with nickserv to do pms now11:50
neuro|laptopjooi11:51
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dooglusrobotgeek: there have been linux viruses for longer than that.11:51
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ECMN-Davao_Cityhello guys im back11:51
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robotgeekdooglus: true, but they are negligle11:51
nightswim?nvidia11:51
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Jedricklets not argue with that linux is the best :p11:51
pipounhello viva breezy!11:51
pipounbut what does overlaping screen mean?11:51
dooglusKy0tIk: there were hundreds of viruses for windows before IE was even written11:51
dooglusall I'm saying is that it's dangerous to tell people there are no viruses for linux - it's not true!11:52
stevejesussorry, im not a huge IRC user.  Can you help me better achieve this PM goal?11:52
ECMN-Davao_Cityguys whats are the major updates in 5.10?11:52
doogluspeople still need to be careful what they run11:52
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stevejesusI "offered a chat"11:52
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dooglusKy0tIk: all you need to do is download a dodgy .deb or some dodgy source.  when you "sudo dpkg -i" it, you're done for11:53
Ky0tIkdooglus: yes thats true, but it still operated with direct access to hardware from the user which could be covered in virii code.. and cause OS failure.... and system crashes... in linux it takes  the users actual input to do something.. things doesnt happen automatically unless you have chosen some kinda weird script that will let it do stuff like that11:53
Belial-dooglus: on Windows you're running as root all the time .. a virus can do much more harm there11:53
dooglusBelial-: on linux you operate as root whenever you "dpkg -i"11:53
Ky0tIkdodgy?? and why would i want to install a package i dont even know what is?11:53
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robotgeekdooglus: with a sudo :)11:53
Ky0tIkand how would it get installed without me doing it11:53
dooglusKy0tIk: you see people in here every day asking how to install .deb files they've downloaded from the net...11:54
Ky0tIklike i said it takes USER interaction11:54
Ky0tIkyea you can screw up linux....11:54
Belial-dooglus: that's why you check the signature before installing11:54
Ky0tIkbut you are the one doing it....11:54
spacedmanis there a way of getting the ubuntu version from the command line? like 'cat /etc/redhat-release' on a deadrat box?11:54
dooglusit takes user interaction, right.  that's not even the same ballpark as "linux viruses don't exist"11:54
kemikstevejesus:  dont use DCC chat...11:54
Ky0tIkdooglus: yea they download .deb files that come from a reliable source too11:54
kemikstevejesus:  pm with /msg <nickname> [message] 11:54
stevejesusalright then, what shall i use?11:54
Ky0tIkmost people dont look for .deb files of everything..11:54
stevejesusah11:54
stevejesusok11:54
Ky0tIkmost people find what they need in the repos, if they are wise anyway11:55
dooglusKy0tIk: is the w32codecs .deb a reliable source?11:55
GNULinuxerSeveas: you there?11:55
Ky0tIknot if its not in the repos its not11:55
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Ky0tIkfilename doesnt mean nothing11:55
doogluslots of people install it...11:55
Ky0tIkwell thats their own stupidity11:55
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Ky0tIkif they wouldnt have gotten like that from using microsoft they wouldnt be ruining their linux boxes11:55
jhankdoes anyone know what to do with a xine message no real video 4 codec11:55
Ky0tIkits as simple as that11:55
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SeveasGNULinuxer, yes but not active...11:55
dooglusright.  but that stupidity is encouraged by people telling them "don't worry - there aren't any viruses for linux".  get it?11:56
Ky0tIkjhank install the codecs for mpg321 probably11:56
GNULinuxerSeveas: breezy fails to reboot, it shuts down all processes but in the end i just see a blank screen and nothing.11:56
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Belial-dooglus: an ordinary user wouldn't download debs and install manually11:56
robotgeekspacedman: cat /etc/issue11:56
Shadowpillarwho here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?11:56
Ky0tIkdooglus: thats not really a virus....11:56
onkarshindeGNULinuxer: Is it just problem with reboot?11:56
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dooglusBelial-: an ordinary user who wants to play his windows media files will have to11:56
GNULinuxeronkarshinde: yes, i guess so11:57
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Ky0tIkwhen you get linux your not going to know how to dpkg -i blah.deb  right from the start anyway11:57
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onkarshindeGNULinuxer: is it a laptop?11:57
dooglusKy0tIk: why isn't that a virus?11:57
Ky0tIkand i dont know anyone going to do that without getting some help from someone in a chat11:57
GNULinuxeronkarshinde: yes11:57
Belial-dooglus: viruses spread .. trojans don't11:57
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jhankky0tik is that the mpg321 package?11:57
onkarshindeGNULinuxer: I think adding reboot=b or acpi=off to the kernel line should help you.11:57
dooglusBelial-: this could spread.  once you have root running malicious code it can do anything11:58
Ky0tIkyea jhank11:58
Ky0tIktry it and see if it works11:58
GNULinuxeronkarshinde: reboot=b ? what does that do? i don't want to do acpi=off11:58
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ompauldooglus, no you need others to run it as root11:58
dooglusompaul: I don't.  even if it just spreads around my system, that's still a virus11:58
Ngroot is easy to get once you are on a machine11:58
ompauldooglus, its different a lot different11:58
Ky0tIkdooglus: i see your point... but... yea their are what 9 known virus's that affect linux?? well im sure their are millions of unknown virii that affect linux...11:59
onkarshindeGNULinuxer: I am not sure what reboot=b is. But I see it on my HP laptop. But of course I am using hoary.11:59
ompauldooglus, due to the fact that we don't have .exe then where does the file choose to embed itself?11:59
onkarshindeGNULinuxer: You can confirm from someone else.11:59
Ky0tIki just dont see why anyone is going to be out installing .deb files off the www or off p2p11:59
stevejesusThis is really getting frustrating.  Do APT repos support wildcards like YUM does?11:59
jhankky0tik doesn't work. it sys no plugin for real video 411:59
GNULinuxeronkarshinde: it's all perfect with hoary11:59
jhankkyotik sys= it say11:59
GNULinuxeronkarshinde: it was ... but breezy has this issue11:59
dooglusompaul: the filename doesn't matter.  what difference does the it make that we don't use a .exe extension?11:59
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ompauldooglus, how does it choose to spread around your system?12:00
robotgeekstevejesus: yes, they do. what do you need to install though. you can also do a package search at packages.ubuntu.com12:00
BlueMatAnyone successfully Inet connection shared Ubuntu?12:00
dooglusompaul: I guess it affects binaries12:00
ompauldooglus, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic its not for here, its theory12:00
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Ky0tIkdooglus:  it dont matter about the filename anything can be renamed and made executable....  the point is... why would someone do that.. if they do it.. they are new and they learn quickly what to do and what not to do12:00
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stevejesuswell, I should just be able to use APT from the command line to search a repo12:00
Ky0tIkso its just a good thing12:00
stevejesusI hope...12:00
stevejesusill MAN it real fast12:01
Ky0tIkstevejesus: use aptitude12:01
robotgeekstevejesus: apt-cache search <string>12:01
FhuredHi All...12:01
Ky0tIkhell fhured12:01
BlueMatWhen booting Breezy, "Loading Modules.." results in a segmentation fault and halts..Im thinking this may have something to do with NDiswrapper..anyone come across this?12:01
say^stevejesus: apt-cache search does a "wildcard" search, ie. it searches for that string within the package names12:02
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Ky0tIkjhank: did you get your xine to work?12:02
ompaulstevejesus, commands are 99.99999% of the time in lower case12:02
jhankyepp12:02
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Ky0tIkwas it mpg321?12:02
ratboylo there12:02
stevejesusreally?  just kidding.  I like the way MAN looks in all caps12:02
FhuredI used the dos grub method of installing Ubuntu...at the end of the install it asked to install grub, and I agreed..on reboot the machine only boots the exiting OS12:02
stevejesusI wouldnt use it like that in application. har har12:02
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Ky0tIkFhured: did you install to the mbr?12:03
Ky0tIkgrub that is12:03
say^stevejesus: So you like men in caps :-)12:03
Fhuredany idea what the kernel and initrd paramters should be: Ky0tIk :- yes12:03
stevejesushhaa12:03
Ky0tIkjhank: did mpg321 fix your xine prob?12:03
stevejesuswell, I bat for my own team.  I just want to be funny12:03
jhankno12:03
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onkarshindeWhere can I get Ubuntu mirror list?12:04
ompaulstevejesus, in all honesty you can confuse others, that is not fair, consider this MAN does not equal man so if you wanted to say man foo the way I emphise it with this >man foo< that is very obvious that its different12:04
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jhankbut thats the problem in any player, it's a mkv file12:04
stevejesusduely noted12:04
Ky0tIkFhured: yea it will be your in your /boot/12:04
robotgeekjhank: did u try vlc?12:04
Seveasonkarshinde, wiki/Archive12:04
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stevejesusIs anyone in here using Hoary?12:05
jhanknop12:05
Seveasstevejesus, yes12:05
jmibanezthere seems to be a bug in either HAL or gnome-volume-manager12:05
Ky0tIkstevejesus: i doubt it12:05
jhankshould i ?12:05
Ky0tIkwell seveas is12:05
ratboyvlc rocks on breezy12:05
jmibaneznautilus refuses to mount floppies12:05
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jmibanez(on breezy)12:05
Seveasstevejesus, I did not yet have time to upgrade all my servers12:05
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Ky0tIkjhank:  vlc is ok, but i dont know if it will play what you are wanting to.. is it an avi your trying to play?12:05
jmibanezerror is "given UDI is not a mountable volume" on the details pane of the error dialog12:05
robotgeekratboy: vlc on ppc is still not compiled with altivec support, so i figure mine will be a little slow12:05
Fhurednope, I installed onto an XP box, used the Ubuntu disk manager to make space...found out after boot that I had dumped it onto the wrong drive12:05
jmibanezhow does one go about tracing this?12:05
Ky0tIkFhured: thats what happened then12:06
bettong_BOFHok anyone here ever get a virus in linux?12:06
Sonderbladei'm trying to apt-get dist-upgrade but im getting an error on kdevelop312:06
robotgeekbettong_BOFH: not in a year12:06
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robotgeekbettong_BOFH: since i started using it12:06
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Ky0tIkSonderblade: did you apt-get update first?12:06
raf256how much ubuntu differs from debian?12:06
SonderbladeKy0tIk: yes12:06
raf256as in, configuration files layout (etc, init.d, and so on) is identical?12:06
Ky0tIkraf256 quiet a bit12:06
Plukanyone know howto change the mousecursor in amarok in gnome? it uses an ugly Xcursor in kdeapps12:06
bettong_BOFHniether have i so therefor it is safe to assume that linux/ubuntu is virus safe12:06
raf256what about stable/unstable?12:06
FhuredNo changes to the boot loader, it is still using the winxp one...However I have the DOS grub available..just not sure of the paramters to pass12:06
robotgeekbettong_BOFH: yeah12:07
FhuredIt would appear that I have installed it onto DISK0 2nd part12:07
ompaulraf256, its a fork of sid that is made stable over a six month period12:07
jhankky0tix its mkv12:07
robotgeekjhank: matrosky?12:07
stevejesuskemik: thank you again for that link you sent me:)12:07
jhanki already had it run before i set my box up with the new ubuntu.... matroska yes12:07
Ky0tIkraf256:  ubuntu is very stable and very current with packages in the stable side... whereas debian stays behind a long way...   as far as configuration  ubuntu makes a lot automatic... where as debian asks for a lot of user interaction during package updating...12:07
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ratboymkv is matroska video12:07
ratboyu can play it smoothly with vlc i presume12:08
bettong_BOFHrobotgeek, i was reading my logs and noticed that someone was saying that ubuntu could get viruses12:08
robotgeekbettong_BOFH: *could*12:08
bettong_BOFHand i noticed that that isen't possible without root access12:08
raf256ok, so why not install it on my laptop then12:08
Ky0tIkjhank: mkv?12:08
jhankokay i try vlc12:08
Ngbettong_BOFH: isn't possible *in theory*12:08
raf256but is the /etc/* layout same? I rather dont want to learn from scratch12:08
jhankyes, mkv12:08
Ky0tIknever seen mkv12:08
jhanknot mka12:08
Ky0tIktry vlc12:08
robotgeekraf256: yeah, pretty much same12:09
Ky0tIkbut xine usually plays about anything vlc does12:09
bettong_BOFHwell hmm that therory seems to have been proven as i have not herd of a ubuntu user getting a virus12:09
ratboy:)12:09
Ngmplayer and totem should be able to do mkv too12:09
nightswimhow do I regenerate the nvidia.ko for my kernel12:09
jhankokay i try it12:09
JDigitalmplayer does12:09
ompaulraf256, there is not much to learn, just use sudo when you would do root stuff and away you go12:09
Ky0tIkand i like the interface better than vlc.. but thats a matter of opinion12:09
Ngbettong_BOFH: that's not how you prove an hypothesis ;)12:09
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JDigital.mkv is a video format very much like .avi12:09
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raf256hm normal su and logint to root dont work?12:09
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Shadowpillarfucking macinrosh12:09
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dooglusthere are local exploits in linux.  if you get access as a user, you can escalate your access to root level.12:09
Shadowpillarfucking macintosh12:09
JDigitalfor all intents and purposes12:09
Shadowpillarnow it won't show its display12:09
Ky0tIkmplayer?? totem??   i dont think that would be opinion...  i would go with either vlc or xine.... i think most in here would agree on that12:09
bettong_BOFHNg lol i know but heck ya gotta admit it's a damn good track record12:09
Shadowpillarbroken POS12:09
Ky0tIkheh12:09
ompaul!tell Shadowline about conduct12:09
bettong_BOFH^_^12:09
NgJDigital: hey :)12:09
JDigitalmacintosh more like macintrash am  irite12:09
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JDigitalhi ng12:09
ShadowpillarJDigital: 4chan perchance?12:10
Ky0tIkdooglus:  you were told to take that to offtopic room12:10
JDigitalShadowpillar: Hey, small world.12:10
NgKy0tIk: vlc and xine suck, it's all about the totem and mplayer ;)12:10
dooglusKy0tIk: I am responding to people claiming that linux is 'safe'!12:10
jmibanezanyone? how does one go about tracing the problem?12:10
JDigitalKy0tIk: I'm an mplayer fan12:10
Ky0tIkdooglus:  linux is safer12:10
stevejesusIm still having the dame problem.  Oh dear.12:10
ShadowpillarJDigital: SNACKS HAS TEH AIDS LAWLZ12:10
Ky0tIkits not disaster proof12:10
stevejesusI really dont want to hook up the FC box right now12:10
Ky0tIkits not a bulletproof os12:10
jmibanezi need to help out a friend-- he installed breezy.12:10
onkarshindedooglus: Any specific security problem you faced with Linux?12:11
say^Hmm this breezy upgrade process has teached me not to install non-standard packages.12:11
jmibanezhoary works with mounting floppies. breezy is broken12:11
Ky0tIkSAFER much more safe...............12:11
JDigitalHaha, I got banned for two days from the 4chan admin channel for saying WT SNACKS IS FULL OF AIDS when I thought he wasn't listening12:11
Ky0tIknow drop it please12:11
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robotgeekNg: vlc generally rocks, but totem has gotten better12:11
ShadowpillarJDigital: I go to wtfux mostly12:11
dooglusKy0tIk: right.  and it's dangerous to keep presenting it as bulletproof.  it leads to a false sense of security12:11
jhankky0tik no chance in vlc.... there is the plugin missing12:11
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JDigitalWhy, did you get banned for something?12:11
ShadowpillarJDigital: all the gamefaqs type kiddies have made 4chan crappy, that and wtsnacks, and I also hate moot because he's a moron12:11
johntramphey I am having problems with grub12:11
ompauldooglus, is windows ready for the desktop with all that spywware, and having to get antivirus software before you start? is windows ready for the desktop when you do not have the option to change stuff to work the way you really want?12:11
Shadowpillarnope12:11
JDigitalhaha he is12:11
JDigitalsnacks is a banhappy dictator12:11
johntrampI have a sata drive with ubuntu installed on, and I think grub sees it as hd012:12
robotgeekompaul,dooglus : #ubuntu-offtopic12:12
ShadowpillarJDigital: wtfux isnt just a 4chan refugee camp12:12
dooglusompaul: I'm not comparing linux with windows.  I'm comparing it with the bulletproof operating system people claim it it12:12
johntrampis there any way I can check that?12:12
robotgeekJDigital: #ubuntu-offtopic12:12
dooglusclaim it is...12:12
Shadowpillaranyway12:12
ompauldooglus, #ubuntu-offtopic I'll take it on there12:12
Shadowpillarcan anyone here help me with ubuntu on the powermac 8500?12:12
Ky0tIkdooglus:  what started this argument?12:12
Ky0tIkwho cares?12:12
stevejesusI may be able to12:12
Shadowpillarit boots12:12
Ky0tIk i havent seen anyone complaining that linux has gotten virus's12:12
doogluswhat's the topic here?12:12
stevejesusShadowpillar12:12
Ky0tIkand screwed up12:12
Shadowpillarbut kernel panics saying it cant find its own root partition12:12
robotgeekdooglus: support12:12
Ky0tIkdooglus: ubuntu is the topic here12:13
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ratboyshadow, what ru trying to do with ur mac ? may help u i think12:13
Ky0tIkwhats this to do with ubuntu12:13
Shadowpillarstevejesus: what?12:13
Ky0tIk?12:13
robotgeekShadowpillar: does it boot from the live cd?12:13
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Shadowpillarrobotgeek: oldworld mac here12:13
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robotgeekShadowpillar: so no yaboot?12:13
dooglusrobotgeek: that's why this came up.  someone came looking for support to get protection from viruses.  instead of giving him that support we mislead him into thinking he didn't need it!12:13
nightswimhow do I regenerate the nvidia.ko for my kernel?12:13
ratboyoldworld booting on inuw is a pain in the ass12:13
rob^lt!nvidia12:13
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:13
ratboylinux12:13
Ky0tIkdooglus: do you use antivirus protection?12:13
Shadowpillarrobotgeek: nope, using bootx12:14
onkarshindeCan anyone tell me if this partition config is good enough for a home page + somewhat development system? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/306712:14
Shadowpillarif I could manage to get into my linux system, set up quik12:14
Ky0tIki never have in linux unless i was scanning my NTFS or FAT partitions and my LAN....12:14
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say^dooglus: are you working for Symantec? If a regular home user asks whether he _needs_ virus protection for his ubuntu system, the answer is obviously no.12:14
Ky0tIknever have i ever gotten a virus12:14
vengeful_you would need to be quite stupid to get a virus in linux?12:14
Shadowpillaranhd I've just about had it with that mac12:14
Ky0tIkvengeful: i would think so12:14
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dooglusKy0tIk: not as such.  I use rootkit protection, and other intrusion detection stuff12:14
Shadowpillarbut after $82 worth of shipping, I'm keeping it12:14
stevejesuscan someone tell me what is wrong here  http://pastebin.com/39330712:14
Ky0tIkdownloading package files from p2p or from unsafe http sites12:14
ompaulvengeful, no but you would have to be stupid to run it :)12:14
say^dooglus: In a more critical environment, I would suppose it would keep you safe.12:15
Sonderbladeapt-get dist-upgrade fails with "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f." what to do?12:15
stevejesusi cant get to multiverse still12:15
gogetafinnly up and runnin12:15
vengeful_i just dont do apt-get virus12:15
vengeful_il be ok12:15
vengeful_:-P12:15
ratboy:)12:15
Ky0tIksudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade12:15
dooglussay^: home environments are critical if you use them for internet banking, credit card purchases, etc.12:15
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ompaulstevejesus, if you do >sudo apt-get update< then >sudo apt-get some_package< after you alter repos12:15
nightswimthe nvidia-glx-config enable does not do the trick12:15
johntrampwhy is grub-install not on the live cd!12:16
stevejesusthank you12:16
johntrampor grub for that matter12:16
Fhuredwhere does ubuntu keep its "vmlinuz" and what should the inird path look like?12:16
ompauldooglus, I think you are trolling - take this to #ubuntu-offtopic12:16
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Ky0tIkjohntramp:  are you kidding?12:16
onkarshindejohntramp: why would you need that?12:16
gogetalucky i knoe my way around bash lol12:16
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johntrampto fix the bootloader...12:16
NgFhured: in /boot usually, initrd would be /boot/initrd.img-KERNELVERSION12:16
Ky0tIkjohntramp: you trying to fix a grub12:16
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gogetahad to bypass ipv6 and reconfigure x manuly12:17
johntrampyes,  now I have to chroot :(12:17
SonderbladeKy0tIk: ok that worked but now i get lots of errors from perl about my locale12:17
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Ky0tIksonderblade pastebin your errors12:17
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stevejesuswell praise the transient vagabond lord.  its not yelling... yet12:17
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nightswimnvidia-glx-config enable simpy exits :/12:18
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onkarshindePlease someone suggest any improvements http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/306712:18
ShadowpillarI think I'll get to work on that shuttle MV18 board12:18
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gogetaoh i like12:19
gogetathat add remove program app is just nice12:19
gogetahas non free on there12:19
gogetalike real player12:19
Ky0tIkonkarshinde: so you just have a 2gb /?12:19
stevejesusoh dear.  you guys have saved my life12:20
stevejesusi love you12:20
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stevejesusno more fc for me12:20
Ky0tIkstevejesus:  :D12:20
sorush20please someone help12:20
robotgeekonkarshinde: seems fine12:20
Ky0tIktold ya didnt i stevejesus12:20
stevejesusthank you12:20
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gogetaminus the installer im aruldy inpressed12:20
SonderbladeKy0tIk: http://pastebin.com/39330912:20
Ky0tIkdoesnt take long to decide on it does it12:20
Ky0tIklol12:20
onkarshindeKy0tIk: I suppose most of the things go into /usr. that is why /usr is 3 GB and remaining 2 GB for everything else. Note that /home is already separate.12:20
onkarshinderobotgeek: Thanks12:21
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gogetano it dont12:21
onkarshindesorush20: What is problem?12:21
gogetanot 1 distro i knoe of ever encluded non free in there installers12:21
onkarshindeSonderblade: What is problem?12:21
gogetaincluding apt and yum style12:21
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BlueMatWhen booting Breezy, "Loading Modules.." results in a segmentation fault and halts..Im thinking this may have something to do with NDiswrapper..anyone come across this?12:21
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Ngonkarshinde: if it was me I'd go with a ~3gb / and make the rest be /home12:21
Ky0tIkyea i noticed that but what about your /var /etc ?   2gb isnt much at all man... just to be honest with ya if you want to use a 10gb partition and thats all you should have just set /home with 3 or 4 and /   with the rest.. thats how i would have done it12:22
cjhcjhcjhbest way to install realplayer - via their website, or using apt-get?12:22
Fhuredthanks..let me try12:22
robotgeekNg: i have a 5 gb root, and that was not enough.12:22
Ky0tIksee but its diff for diff people12:22
Ngcjhcjhcjh: their website12:22
gogetaguess the website wasent kidding in saying linux without the bs12:22
Ky0tIklike NG done the opposite of me12:22
Ky0tIkbut its just how u want it12:22
cjhcjhcjhng ty12:22
gogetalol12:22
CorradoHey all.  I have a dumb security question.12:22
stevejesuswhat works better for you guys, blackdown or sun java?12:22
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onkarshindeNg: Thanks for suggestion. I can keep /home less than 3 GB since I already have 30 GB just for any damn thing I may store on my machine.12:22
ompaulCorrado, ask it12:22
Ngrobotgeek: depends what you need, my work desktop only uses about 2.5gb for /, my home development one uses more like 8 ;)12:22
BlueMatWhen booting Breezy, "Loading Modules.." results in a segmentation fault and halts..Im thinking this may have something to do with NDiswrapper..anyone come across this?12:23
Ngonkarshinde: fair enough :)12:23
robotgeekstevejesus: sun java is newer, and faster. blackdown is 'free'12:23
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CorradoWell, I just installed 5.10 (over my beloved Slackware) and now I can't run anything that requires elevated privildges.  :(12:23
Ky0tIkonkarshinde:  if i were you i would take that 30gb and take the 10gb and i would partition the whole thing differently12:23
gogetayes but no other distro includes them12:23
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gogetathis one does12:23
robotgeek!tell Corrado about root12:23
BlueMatCorrado, sudo12:23
sorush20I can't start my printer I don't know what the hell has happened to it.. there is a shell script at /etc/hotplug/usb that is supposed to run but it doesn't12:23
BlueMat!sudo12:23
ubotu[sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:23
robotgeekBlueMat: try disabling the ndiswrapper module12:23
gogetaby non free i mean non gpl12:23
Ky0tIki would make a /home that is about 5 gb and a / that is about 10 - 15     and then partition the rest of the data in /data or something12:23
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ompaulCorrado, it was not stupid, it was just something you did not know, use >sudo foo< to do a job12:24
BlueMatrobotgeek, I cant even boot into a shell12:24
onkarshindeKy0tIk: I would do the same if I had some media to store my very important data (read as songs and movies) ;-)12:24
Ky0tIkonkarshinde: but i really dont know aht kind of data you have12:24
NgKy0tIk: I used to do that, but everything I was putting in /data made just as much sense in /home ;)12:24
robotgeekBlueMat: use the live cd, and check the logs12:24
gogetanow that frendly12:24
Sonderbladeonkarshinde: the proble is that perl complains about locale stuff12:24
robotgeekBlueMat: or rescue mode in the install cd12:24
Ky0tIkonkarshinde:  you can combine them and convert them with pqmagic12:24
CorradoWell, when I try to use sudo for *anything* it just gives me back my prompt.12:24
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gogetasays said app isnt avable but its hear wanna enable it12:24
BlueMatrobotgeek, /valr/log/messages/ ?12:25
gogetathat ownez12:25
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robotgeekBlueMat: /var/log/messages12:25
onkarshindeSonderblade: Have you installed all the locale packaes you need? Do you need to install any special package for PERL for handling locale? (I am not a PERL expert)12:25
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Ky0tIkSonderblade: did you paste the errors to pastebin?12:25
gogetaanone else you would be edting files12:25
BlueMatrobotgeek, thanks will try when I get home.., you know about internet connection sharing with ubuntu?12:25
CorradoLike I can type >sudo alksfjalksfjasf< and it wont complain at all!!12:26
onkarshindeKy0tIk: I previously had some problems with pqmagic. And I don't suppose it is available for linux12:26
CorradoI can't view my logs or anything...  :(12:26
Ky0tIki meant the bootable version of pqmagic12:26
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bigfoot1hi everyone, I just upgraded. how come all files and folders in my nautilus look like text documents? Please refer to http://img436.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot46ii.jpg12:26
robotgeekBlueMat: i would search on the wiki12:26
rob^ltBlueMat, yes, just install firestarter and enable it12:26
quamwell, i was getting like 60k/s from the repositories. then all you bastards got back on them :P12:26
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BlueMatrob^lt, yes Ive done that..but heres my problem12:26
SonderbladeKy0tIk: yes here http://pastebin.com/393314 and here http://pastebin.com/39330912:26
jhankky0tik when i execute mplayer <file> from shell, i get the output that a couple of win32 files are missing... eventhough there is w32codecs installed, but dir the /usr/lib/win32 is missing12:27
ompaulCorrado, it will ask for a password that password is yours, however the second and so forth users on the box do not get that privilege without adding them to /etc/sudoers12:27
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: try a different theme and see if the icons come back12:27
rob^ltBlueMat, you need to set all the clients to use the ip address of the internet connected machine as their gateway12:27
coolkevever since i got ubuntu breezy, the xchat that came with closes automatically at any random time without reason.12:27
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gogetaim not into rotless systems but i am quickly changing my mind lol12:27
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coolkevso it can close after 1 hour or 4 hour12:27
coolkevfor no reason12:27
CorradoHmmm...well I did kill the first user and try to re-add them back.  Maybe I just need to drop to "safe" mode and edit /etc/sudoers.  Right?12:27
onkarshindebigfoot1: Are you using any specific theme for GNOME? I have never seen anything like this.12:28
rob^ltgogeta, you can always get a root terminal by doing sudo -s12:28
ompaulgogeta, try it for a week and you will object to going back :)12:28
NgCorrado: you don't need to edit /etc/sudoers, just add the user you want to have sudo access to the "admin" group12:28
bigfoot1thoreauputic, it worked!!! you are cool!12:28
gogetaim quickly lerning why they got that best distro award12:28
bigfoot1hi onkarshinde. nice to see you again.12:28
thoreauputicbigfoot1: heheh :D12:28
gogetalol12:28
CorradoNg, Ahh...ok.  I'll give that a try12:28
coolkevshould i get rid of xchat that came with ubuntu and install it myself using the tar.gz from website?12:28
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BlueMatrob^lt, I have two boxes, BoxA asks if u like a proxy, it ha s awireless card/and eth card, box B has just ethernet, box B also dual boots Ubuntu & WinXp, Ive got it working fine sharing the connection through firestarter, but thing is, I can get windows to access the ics share from ubuntu, ive replicated IP addrs, subnets and gateways..any ideas?12:28
CorradoThanx!12:28
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bigfoot1onkarshinde, i'm using the fastest theme in ubuntu.12:28
anthony!w32codecs12:28
ubotu[w32codecs]  to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:28
ompaulthoreauputic, greetings12:29
Ky0tIkSonderblade:   looks like if i were you i would take kdedevelop off, as well as katomic..   after you have uninstalled them then try the dist-upgrade again12:29
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thoreauputicompaul: hello there12:29
onkarshindebigfoot1: Can you tell me the name. I will make sure not to use it.12:29
robotgeekonkarshinde: :)12:29
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anthony!win32codecs12:29
ubotuanthony: Are you on ritalin?12:29
ompaulanthony, w32codecs :)12:30
thoreauputic!w32codecs12:30
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:30
rob^ltBlueMat, I'm a little confused to what you mean12:30
thoreauputicompaul: ;)12:30
Ky0tIkSonderblade:  the other looks like you just havent set your locales12:30
SonderbladeKy0tIk: if i do that i get a huge amount of "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."12:30
rob^ltw32codecs information is now on the wiki12:30
stevejesuswhere can i find the gpg key for the nerim repo12:30
bigfoot1onkarshinde, actually the theme's name was "customized" or something like that. But in hoary, it was called something like clearlooks. I don't know the exact name, but i chose that theme because it was quicker than ubuntu's default theme12:30
stevejesusi need to install w32 codecs12:30
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wezzerIs anyone experiencing same problems after upgrading to breezy? The problem is that sudo apt-get update says that process is locked even though I can't find any process that would lock it12:30
rob^ltubotu tell stevejesus about w32codecs12:30
Ngstevejesus: there's little point adding that as a repo just for one package, you can grab the .deb directly12:31
anthonyI'm looking for that URL with the torrent tracker to download the codecs.12:31
bigfoot1guys, what's the fastest theme for ubuntu?12:31
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stevejesusgreat, where can i find it12:31
Ky0tIkSonderblade: pm me plz ill get ya through this12:31
onkarshindebigfoot1: I have used clearlooks and never saw any such thing.12:31
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BlueMatrob^lt, I have an ubuntu box sharing the inet connection to BoxB running Ubuntu on both, all works fine, BoxB dual boots ubuntu and xp, when I try to access the net via windows after duplicating eth0 details I cant talk to the net..12:31
Ngstevejesus: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/12:31
rob^ltthat .de is dodgy12:31
aftertafKy0tIk:  i getthe same error for locales too.12:31
thoreauputicbigfoot1: tty1 ;-)12:31
rob^lt.deb12:31
bigfoot1thoreauputic, terminal?12:31
stevejesusthank you12:31
aftertafKy0tIk:  but they were set and worked, error only since a few days....12:31
thoreauputicbigfoot1: joking :)12:31
stevejesusand that packages includes mp3?12:31
onkarshindebigfoot1: I think there is something name 'slider'. I am not sure, but it starts with 's'12:32
robotgeekwezzer: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"12:32
gogetathe resptorys are dragong bad12:32
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rob^ltBlueMat, you need to set the gateway in windows to the ip address of the sharing machine most likey12:32
knewtanyone got any idea when the breezy dvd will be available?12:32
gogetaprobly me12:32
onkarshindebigfoot1: If you care to use another desktop environment then use xfce12:32
bigfoot1thoreauputic, before i can use THAT fastest theme, i gotta geekify myself. I'm still a newbie afraid of terminal/tty112:32
Ngstevejesus: if you want mp3 support you probably want to install the gstreamer0.8-mad package in synaptic/apt12:32
nightswimis there a way to manually generate the nvidia.ko instead of using nvidia-config ?12:32
thoreauputic!tell stevejesus about mp312:32
Ngstevejesus: w32codecs tends to mostly be video stuff12:32
aftertaf!e12:32
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 Repo: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary12:32
BlueMatrob^lt, Yeah I did that, I replicated the data from the ubuntu boot to the windows boot..12:32
stevejesuswith a deb, are there any other flags other than -i i will need?12:32
wezzerrobotgeek: didn't help :/12:32
nightswimthe script somehow is broken here12:32
nightswimafter the upgrade12:33
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rob^ltBlueMat, could be the windows firewall12:33
robotgeekwezzer: can u do a "ps -ef | grep apt" in a terminal12:33
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BlueMatrob^lt, turned off12:33
anthony!printer12:33
ubotuhmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org12:33
Ngstevejesus: nope :)12:33
mortenunder the breezy upgrade i got some problems, is there anyone that can help me?12:33
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gogetais the updates just being slow or is it me12:33
wezzerrobotgeek: antti    13136 13083  0 13:33 pts/2    00:00:00 grep apt12:33
rob^ltBlueMat, can you ping google.com from the xp box?12:33
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bigfoot1guys, I had opera installed in my hoary days, but after upgrading opera (as it is in my drawer) can't work. When I click on the icon/shortcut, a dialog window says: "Cannot Launch Icon:12:33
bigfoot1Details: Failed to execute child process "opera" (No such file or directory)" What's wrong. Please help ubuntu newbiedummy.12:33
wezzerrobotgeek:  or should I do it as root?12:33
thoreauputicgogeta: the servers are heavily swamped12:33
onkarshindeI just realised that I have been using wrong mirror to download packages. Now my download speed has improved 4 times.12:34
robotgeekwezzer: so, yeah..no apt running12:34
BlueMatrob^lt, nope host unreachable12:34
MaTaKswhy is that every 20 or 30 minutes my connection stopped12:34
bigfoot1I can't launch skype neither.12:34
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gogetatry disabling ipv612:34
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gogetasome isps whont send out ips in that mode12:34
stevejesusthe command is dkpg?12:34
avinoamanyone know what package i need to play dvds?12:34
robotgeekwezzer: what's the exact error message?12:34
anthonyIs xine player better than mplayer?12:34
rob^ltBlueMat, sounds like a config problem on your xp box12:35
avinoamon breezy12:35
MaTaKswhy is that every 20 or 30 minutes my connection stopped12:35
onkarshindestevejesus: You don't need any other option.12:35
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rob^ltBlueMat, can you ping the gateway?12:35
robotgeekwezzer: the apt-get command needs to be preceded by a sudo12:35
BlueMatrob^lt, maybe i should just nuke it ;-)12:35
onkarshindeavinoam: Read following.12:35
stevejesusdkpg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:35
onkarshinde!restricted12:35
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:35
stevejesuswhats wrong with this picture12:35
stevejesus?12:35
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BlueMatrob^lt, nope cant ping gateway12:35
mortenin the breezy i did get a question about closing KDM that i answered yes on, and noe nothing works... someone that can help?12:35
MaTaKswhy is that every 20 or 30 minutes my internet connection stopped12:35
Ngstevejesus: you may want to use sudo :)12:35
avinoam!restricted12:35
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stevejesusi did.12:35
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rob^ltBlueMat, can you ping the ip of the nic in the xp box from the xp box?12:36
bigfoot1anybody here use skype or opera? if you do please say my name.12:36
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avinoamhuh?12:36
ompaulstevejesus,  sudo dkpg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:36
xmasterhey12:36
MaTaKsanyone?12:36
robotgeekmorten: to restart kdm, try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"12:36
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onkarshindestevejesus: Is it correct package for breezy?12:36
wezzerrobotgeek: Yes, I run command as a root, here is the error:12:36
wezzerE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:36
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robotgeekbigfoot1: opera, sometimes12:36
wezzerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:36
stevejesusim using hoary12:36
onkarshindeavinoam: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:36
ompaulMaTaKs, bad provider, bad telecoms, bad ethernet card12:36
BlueMatrob^lt, ill have to try when I get home, pain in the ass..thanks for your help12:36
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bigfoot1robotgeek, okay. So did you have it installed in your hoary days?12:36
xmasteri want to connect as/400 from linux12:36
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rob^ltnp12:36
stevejesusplease be gentle.  im an rpm guy12:36
thoreauputicbigfoot1: most likely the libraries breezy installed are no longer compatible with skype and opera12:36
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xmasterhow i get a connection12:36
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stevejesuscommand not found?12:36
onkarshindestevejesus: Try 'dpkg --install' (although it is same) instead12:37
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stevejesusis it not in my path?12:37
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i see. So what must i do? Is it a matter of just removing these "shortcuts/icons" from my drawer?12:37
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rob^ltstevejesus, heh debian will spoil you and you'll never go back :)12:37
gogetahumm12:37
MaTaKsno, i try to connect on my windows box  but it works fine12:37
gogetareal player didnt dl12:37
onkarshindestevejesus: Can you tell what command you used exactly?12:37
gogetayea apt is relly mesed up12:37
stevejesushahaha12:37
robotgeekwezzer: hmm.,i got the same error a couple of days ago. try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"12:37
bigfoot1thoreauputic, is there a way to have ubuntu automatically remove all files/packages/stuff that are no longer compatible with breezy, such as opera and skype?12:37
thoreauputicbigfoot1: well, I guess you can do that - or remove the apps completely12:37
Kleggasnot just apt, the whole breezy is meesed up12:37
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stevejesusi didnt spell it right12:37
ompaulstevejesus, and the typo was where?12:37
robotgeekbigfoot1: nope, i've been on breezy for a while now12:37
stevejesusi put dkpg12:37
avinoammy libdvdread3 is already up to date12:37
avinoami don't get it12:37
stevejesusnot dpkg12:37
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variantlo guys, Im just reading that press release about ubuntu 5.10, looks exiting12:38
stevejesusim silly12:38
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if you used debs to install them, you can probably uninstall12:38
wezzerrobotgeek: that helped, thanks a lot12:38
xmasterhey everbody i need  help12:38
mortenrobotgeek, it doesent start...12:38
xmasterpls12:38
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ompaulstevejesus, theres no deprecation like self deprecation12:38
stevejesusyup12:38
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avinoami have all other codecs set up besides for dvd12:38
robotgeekmorten: are you on a X session12:38
stevejesusnow for amarok12:38
ompaulstevejesus, be nice to yourself12:38
xmasterwhcih program can i use to connect as/40012:38
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stevejesusthis one will take quite sometime as it requires all sorts of kde goodness:)12:39
mortenrobotgeek, no x does not start..12:39
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variantDoes Edubuntu use gnome or kde? (please say gnome)12:39
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onkarshindestevejesus: Don't you like any other thing than amarok?12:39
twokneeguys i had to set up my breezy with just a /boot, swap, and / and i might be running a business on it.  i have a dvd burner and can network to my fathers wireless desktop i think and store data there.  i guess i'm wondering if ubuntu is easily broken where i can't backup my files12:39
robotgeekmorten: are you in a terminal? try startx and see if x starts?12:39
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MaTaKshow to automatically starts firewall on boot, im using firestarter12:39
onkarshindevariant: It uses GNOME. But has quite a few KDE packages.12:39
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robotgeekstevejesus: amarok is 10/10, seriously!12:40
variantonkarshinde: that sounds perfect12:40
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aftertafMaTaKs:  set it to active, it will start auto12:40
Kleggasanyone else noticed how extremely slow DRI is in breezy's xorg? I didn't have 3d-acceleration in hoary but still could play condition-zero and other opengl games. added 3d-support and got more fps....but in breezy I can't play anything without lagging, and when adding acceleration it still lags. whats wrong with ubuntu?12:40
MaTaKsaftertaf:  how?12:40
Kleggassorry, breezy12:40
mortenrobotgeek: command startx: command not found12:40
sorush20guys I keep getting this error how can I fix it... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/306812:40
onkarshindevariant: I think Edubuntu is not final yet.12:40
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stevejesuswell, over the last few years i have tried many different jukebox's.  i had always disliked amarok.  until recently.  the entiresoftware has changed.  its one hell of a box12:40
aftertafMaTaKs:  its a frontend for iptables, kernel builtin firewall protection.12:40
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i got the opera from a deb, but i forgot how i got skype on my system. Is there a way to check how i got skype, so that i can uninstall it?12:40
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rcaany ideas why my Evolution no longer sees its INBOX after upgrading to breezy? it's on an UW IMAP server, worked before the upgrade. i tried deleting ~/.evolution and making a new profile, still the same :(12:41
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: try dkpg -l opera and dpkg -l skype12:41
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rcaother mail clients still work12:41
robotgeekmorten: that's weird, cause startx is supposed to be there12:41
avinoamdo i need to mount the dvd?12:41
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: ii means installed12:41
noodlejust a simple question, if i install ubuntu, then reinstall windows, i can fix the bootloader easily to rerecognize ubuntu right?12:41
Pepsanyone can help me setup an external monitor for a laptop? The laptop is wide screen - the external monitor is not ....12:41
sorush20why can't I fomat my floppy12:41
MaTaKsaftertaf: dude there's no active option here12:41
bigfoot1thoreauputic, where should i look for the "ii"?12:42
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johntrampI am having a problem getting ubuntu to boot.  Grub is loaded at boot and loads the manu.1st file fine, but then when I try boot ubuntu I get an error 22:  no such partition12:42
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rob^ltnoodle, it will do it automatically12:42
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robotgeeknoodle: it's better to install windows first12:42
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onkarshindesorush20: what kind of floppy. Most probably because its sector zero is bad12:42
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: or just do sudo apt-get remove skype and see if it errors :)12:42
johntrampI can't see anything wrong with the config file\12:42
variantonkarshinde: it doesnt come with the rest of KDE?12:42
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variantonkarshinde: just the edu packages?12:42
sorush20I keep getting this error.. can not access dev/fd0u104412:42
aftertafMaTaKs:  'enable' firestarter.....   if you're firewall is active, it will remain so, and automatically be up on boot.12:42
bigfoot1thoreauputic, "sudo: dkpg: command not found12:42
bigfoot1"12:42
stevejesusno offense but...12:42
onkarshindevariant: I don't know12:42
johntrampI am wondering if there is any trick to get grub to boot a sata drive?12:42
rob^ltnoodle, oh, yeah, but you will have to reinstall grub12:42
variantonkarshinde: np12:42
bimberinoodle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:42
stevejesuswhy does everyone in the linux community use irc?12:42
thoreauputicbigfoot1: typo12:42
robotgeekbigfoot1: dpkg12:42
noodlerobotgeek: windows is already installed but i want to reinstall it after ubuntu ><12:42
variantstevejesus: they dont12:42
aftertaflol stevejesus12:42
bigfoot1robotgeek, thanks.12:42
thoreauputicbigfoot1: dpkg12:42
noodlebimberi: ah ok thx12:43
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variantstevejesus: i know many linux uesrs that hate irc12:43
bigfoot1thoreauputic, thanks. i'm so linux-dumb12:43
bimberinoodle: yw :)12:43
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stevejesusi mean, for forums like this12:43
MaTaKsaftertaf:  my firewall is active, but i cant see it on the tray..12:43
onkarshindestevejesus: It is fastest way to get and provide help12:43
sorush20onkarshinde: could you help.. I can read an browse the floppy but can't format it..12:43
mortenrobotgeek:yes, but something went wrong under the dist-upgrade12:43
BockBilbowhat was the command for making tar.bz2 files?12:43
aftertafMaTaKs:  you wont12:43
noodledamn there's a wiki for everything now -_-12:43
thoreauputicbigfoot1: think d-package :)12:43
MaTaKsok12:43
aftertaf!linuxnotwindows12:43
uboturumour has it, linuxnotwindows is http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm12:43
sgbirchvariant: what do they prefer to irc?12:43
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onkarshindesorush20: What are you using for floppy format?12:43
MaTaKsso it's running?12:43
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: hence dpkg12:43
stevejesusnot really.  its sort of overwhelming to someone not familiar with it12:43
aftertaf!tell MaTaKs about linuxnotwindows12:43
MaTaKseven if i can't see t on the tray12:43
sorush20onkarshinde: I'm using kfloppy fomrat12:43
variantsgbirch: mailing lists and new groups12:43
aftertafMaTaKs:  yes :)12:43
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cjhcjhcjhjust downloaded RealPlayer10GOLD.bin, how do I run it? I did chmod +x and have tried to run it thru the window, also in a terminal screen, nothing happens. And why is it green?12:44
onkarshindesorush20: Are you on Kubuntu?12:44
MaTaKsok12:44
elitist_phoenix1hey guys need a bit of help. I can't seem to get a network up, I don't think it autodetected my card (but I know there is a module in the kernel package). How should I start, tried ifconfig but if wasn't there.12:44
aftertafMaTaKs:  try pinging google.com12:44
robotgeekmorten: try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop package again12:44
MaTaKsno wonder.. now i get it12:44
MaTaKsok12:44
onkarshinde!info gfloppy12:44
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variantsgbirch: i can see their point tbh, you never get work done in irc :P12:44
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aftertaf;)12:44
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i did that dpkg command you gave me, on the left-hand column in the output, to the left of  opera and skype are the letters "rc", and NOT "ii".12:44
mortenrobotgeek:how do i do that?12:44
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robotgeekcjhcjhcjh: i think you need a chmod a+x12:44
Pepsanyone can help me setup an external monitor for a laptop? The laptop is wide screen - the external monitor is not ....12:44
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variantwow, busy channel.. soon to compete with #gentoo i suspect12:44
stevejesusoh my sweet amarok is on its way back.12:44
robotgeekmorten: apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop12:44
MaTaKsaftertaf:  im done pinging google.. what now12:44
sorush20onkarshinde: yes..12:44
thoreauputicbigfoot1: that means "residual configuration"12:45
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ompaulvariant, no, we don't have the compile issues :)12:45
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stevejesusi am pretty confident in this distro so far.  i think it may be time to move the home dir over to this box12:45
robotgeekvariant: i believe it's a lot nicer :)12:45
bigfoot1thoreauputic, so what does that mean and what must i do now, sir?12:45
aftertafMaTaKs:  as a test. block pings and you'lno longer eb able to ;)12:45
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MaTaKshow to block pings?12:45
bigfoot1thoreauputic, actually , you don't have to tell me what it means, if you want to save yourself from typing.12:45
sorush20onkarshinde: it dosent' even check for the floppy..12:45
thoreauputicbigfoot1: in other words the system doesn't know what to do about it - but try  " sudo apt-get remove skype "12:45
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onkarshindesorush20: You may not be able to format the floppy if it is mounted already. Try unmounting it and format/ Normally floppy drive is /dev/fd012:45
JDigitalwhat is skype12:45
robotgeekmorten: it might take a while12:45
variantrobotgeek: whats a lot niceer?12:46
thoreauputicJDigital: voice over IP app12:46
robotgeekvariant: #ubuntu12:46
variantJDigital: internet telephone12:46
onkarshindeJDigital: VoIP program.12:46
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variantrobotgeek: #gentoo does have excelent users though..12:46
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JDigitalit sounds like a laser sound effect12:46
JDigitalVOIP12:46
thoreauputicJDigital: closed source12:46
variantrobotgeek: im sure this channel does too12:46
cjhcjhcjhhmm...I tried chmod a+x but it still wont run...says "command not found"...I am trying as root.12:46
variantJDigital: its non Free software12:46
robotgeekvariant: yeah, it does12:46
ompaulvariant, who do not know how to do things the .deb way just as I could not emerge anything for myself12:47
onkarshindeI am really waiting for GAIM 2.0 which will support GTalk voice service.12:47
robotgeekcjhcjhcjh: chmod a+x RealPlayerWhatever.bin12:47
aftertafhmmmm. will it now?12:47
mortenrobotgeek: i get an message, with a list of many programs, an depends..12:47
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JDigitalIt will?12:47
sorush20I don't have the format commad!12:47
stevejesusyou can use google talk with it now actually12:47
variantompaul: emerge is easyer than .deb packages :P but im not gonna start trolling12:47
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stevejesusits just jabber12:47
ompaulvariant, kewl :)12:47
JDigitalYes, but you can't do the voice12:47
thoreauputicvariant: glad to hear that12:47
robotgeekmorten: but the packages are probably already in the archives, so it won't take that much time12:47
aftertafstevejesus:  voice?12:47
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onkarshindestevejesus: but not voice service.12:47
stevejesusalso, i have used it in kopete, however it crashes it constantly12:47
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i did "sudo apt-get remove skype" and i got a message saying that skype is not installed. http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/306912:48
JDigitalI want GAIM to support the webcams for hot hot webcam axxion12:48
sorush20onkarshinde: I don't have the format command and I can't find it.. in synaptic.. I have installed kfloppy but the termianl format command is not found..12:48
stevejesusoh. i see12:48
fabian_pitti: hi12:48
cjhcjhcjhrobotgeek, I did that. its rwxr-xr-x...but TAB doesnt complete the name of it...as tho its not executable...do I have to quit X to run it, maybe???12:48
thoreauputicbigfoot1: that isn't really surprising12:48
onkarshindesorush20: terminal format command is 'fdformat'12:48
bigfoot1thoreauputic, so why the rc?12:48
thoreauputicbigfoot1: the system doesn't know about it12:48
mortenrobotgeek: it does not begin to reinstall, i get an error or something12:48
robotgeekcjhcjhcjh: no, you don't need to quit x to install it12:48
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: oh Isee - well the config files are left behind12:49
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aftertaftab auto dont work with sudo12:49
stevejesuswell, time for some nintendo while my 13 billiob deps are gathered and install12:49
stevejesused*12:49
variantthoreauputic: Im interested in edubuntu, my brother is a teacher in shetland and he is big into FreeSoftware just like me.. the computer lab at his school has just been "upgraded" with new windowsxp computers though and he would be in big trouble if he installed linux.. so he is using knoppix right now.12:49
bigfoot1thoreauputic, why did it keep the config files? Do i need them?12:49
robotgeekmorten: what error does it give you?12:49
Skidhmm, ever since I upgraded to breezy my wifi network card (cisco aironet 350) doesn't seemto work when it boots up.  i can't get it to get an ip address from the dhcp server - anyone have any ideas?12:49
SkidI did an upgrade, not fresh install12:49
variantthoreauputic: I dont think he knows about edubuntu so im gonna check it out and tell him12:49
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: what happens if you type  sudo apt-get install skype ?12:49
doogluswhere should bugs be reported now?  launchpad or bugzilla?12:49
onkarshindebigfoot1: Launch Synaptic. And press status button. You shouls see something as (residual config).12:49
bigfoot1onkarshinde, okay will try it now.12:50
stevejesusreview your iwconfig setup??12:50
mortenrobotgeek: depends *** but it is not going to be installed12:50
onkarshindebigfoot1: config files are preserved supposing atht you will install it again.12:50
rjordanSo who knows why my 2x200G seagates are showing up as 134G each?12:50
robotgeekmorten: hmm..broken dependencies. apt-get -f install12:50
JDigitalHow much temporary free space does it require to upgrade to Breezy?12:50
variantI hope your not gonna slap me for this.. but I was thinking of installing portage on ubuntu..12:50
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onkarshindedooglus: bugzilla12:50
robotgeekdooglus: bugzilla12:50
cjhcjhcjhso in the terminal window I have su"d, I can see RealPlayer10GOLD.bin, its green for some reason, and TAB doesn:t complete it. It is rwxr-xr-x...if I type the name myself it says "comamnd not found"12:50
aftertafcjhcjhcjh:  sh before it12:51
robotgeekcjhcjhcjh: you have to ./Real12:51
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aftertafthat or :)12:51
robotgeekaftertaf: :)12:51
aftertafhehe12:51
onkarshindecjhcjhcjh: Try ./commandname12:51
dooglusI see that bugzilla is still being used, but I thought I read somewhere offical that we're using launchpad now...12:51
johntrampQ:  Is there any trick to get grub to boot a SATA drive?12:51
mortenrobotgeek: now it is downloading :)12:51
aftertaf./autogen && make install && ldconfig   <-- my most used cmd line of the week12:51
robotgeekmorten: cool12:51
variantjohntramp: no, it should boot just the same as a normal ATA disk12:51
onkarshindedooglus: Launchpad is for translation12:51
cjhcjhcjhah, course, my bad...long time since I used linux, forgot that current dir isnt in path!12:51
thoreauputicdooglus: on the dev list they say the migration will be after dapper IIRC12:52
johntrampvariant, hmmm ok12:52
ompaulrjordan, do this >>sudo fdisk -l << and paste output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl and maybe we can see12:52
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, rshinde, in synaptic/status/"Not installed (residual config)", there are very many packages listed!!! WHat should I do? Why didn't ubuntu breezy assume that i want to use these programs again and matically get these packages for me in breezy?12:52
variantjohntramp: SATA is very well supported under linux12:52
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onkarshindeaftertaf: Why do you need it at all in Ubuntu?12:52
BockBilbo!bz212:52
ubotuBockBilbo: I don't know12:52
robotgeekdooglus: you can still file bugs in launchpad, but it's got better visiblity on bugzilla12:52
cjhcjhcjh...err "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"12:52
thoreauputicbigfoot1: because they aren't part of Ubuntu12:52
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dooglushttps://launchpad.net/ says "The Ubuntu Distribution : [...]  The project uses the Launchpad for all translation and bug tracking."12:52
sorush20onkarshinde: its formatting but I don't know what file type it is formatting to? DOS or ext2?12:52
rjordanompaul, that's the thing, I don't have an OS installed on it yet.12:52
dooglus*all bug tracking*...12:52
thoreauputicbigfoot1: they are both closed source/ unfree packages12:52
aftertafonkarshinde:  because i am playing with fire and using a wicked WM12:53
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onkarshindecjhcjhcjh: Why don't you instead try installing Helix player?12:53
variantIs edubuntu a live cd?12:53
johntrampvariant, I am getting an error 22 (no such partition) and I can see nothing wrong with my menu.1st12:53
dooglusmaybe I should file in both places?12:53
BockBilbothoreauputic, whats the commando to create tar.bz2 files? tar -cjf ?12:53
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thoreauputicdooglus: launchpad for universe , currently bugzilla for main12:53
ompaulrjordan, well if its saying that, are the disks formatted already with data on it - try a live CD and see what that tells you12:53
onkarshindesorush20: Normally it will format to dos12:53
dooglustar tfj12:53
robotgeekdooglus: yeah, and mention the other in one place12:53
gogetasorush ext3 is defalt12:53
variantjohntramp: sorry I dont know.. google for the exact error12:53
Ngcjhcjhcjh: install stdlibc++612:53
bimberibigfoot1: by the looks of that pastebin output you need to stop postfix (sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop) - "fatal: the Postfix mail system is already running"12:53
sorush20how can I run scandisk on floppy..  onkarshinde12:53
aftertafvariant:  i think there is one, yeah.12:53
Ngonkarshinde: the helix player doesn't have real codecs though12:53
thoreauputicBockBilbo: looks right yes12:53
aftertafonkarshinde:  E12:53
gogetayou can change it to whatever you whant12:53
dooglustar cfj <tarfile> <source> ...12:53
onkarshindevariant: I don't think so.12:53
rjordanompaul, any ideas?12:54
cjhcjhcjhNg sorry to be such a n00b, but...how?12:54
Ngcjhcjhcjh: sorry, make that ++512:54
BockBilbothanks thoreauputic12:54
avalenteis there anything like BizUbuntu? as in Edubuntu..12:54
Ngcjhcjhcjh: either "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5" in a terminal, or search for it in synaptic12:54
ompaulrjordan, ubuntu live CD or somthing that you find on the outside of a mag12:54
dooglusever seen gnome-terminal hang and eat all available CPU?12:54
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variantonkarshinde: I wonder how hard it would be to build a live cd out of it12:55
gogetarjordan use manual partation12:55
onkarshindesorush20: I think fsck is anologous for scandisk in linux12:55
robotgeekdooglus: i stopped using gnome-terminal long time ago, i use rxvt-unicode!12:55
bigfoot1bimberi, thank you for taking the time to read my pastebin output. THat's very kind of you. Will doing a stop on postfix be a good solution? or is it just a tempory solution, like putting a bandage on deadly scar?12:55
gogetarjodan tell it to format whatever partation your using nativ linux i assume it will work then12:55
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onkarshindevariant: Constructing live CDs is not that hard. But why would you want that?12:55
Elitism_Phoenixhey could someone give me some help setting up my network?12:55
BockBilbothoreauputic, i cant get  "tar -cjf directory/ compressed_file.tar.bz2 " to work...12:56
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aftertafonfire_nux:12:56
BockBilbois it just for files and not directories?12:56
sorush20onkarshinde: so I should type fsck /dev/fd012:56
aftertafonfire_nux:  sorry, my error.....12:56
thoreauputicBockBilbo: wrong order of arguments12:56
BockBilbooh12:56
BockBilboso cfj12:56
BockBilboright?12:56
DaveyOK, who stole my Nautilus address bar? :/12:56
thoreauputicBockBilbo: no12:56
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variantonkarshinde: my bro is a computing teacher he is not allowd to mess witht hte workstations though so his pupils are forced to use winxp12:56
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reikiok it's asking me about login.defs and do I want to keep my current ones and it's not real explicit about what the implications are..should I just keep my current ones ?12:56
rjordanompaul, gogeta, ty I'll try12:56
variantonkarshinde: a live cd would be idea12:56
bigfoot1bimberi,  what about lines 63 and onwards (http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3069)?12:56
thoreauputicBockBilbo:  file.tar.bz2 directory/12:56
onkarshindesorush20: Should work if command is right. In fact 'sudo fsck /dev/fdo' is more correct.12:56
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BockBilbolol12:56
ompaulrjordan, ubuntu live CD or somthing that you find on the outside of a mag to talk about what I wanted - for what you wanted well I would set up 20G for / and 100 for /home and then when the box was up and running I would tackle that space and maybe use it for isos and such like12:57
BockBilbo:)12:57
BockBilbothanks thoreauputic12:57
ZapataHello! Im setting up a Linux Server, what Ubinti version should i use?12:57
ZapataUbuntu!12:57
thoreauputicBockBilbo: that gets me sometimes too :)12:57
MaTaKshow to delete folder using terminal12:57
aftertafZapata:  latest.12:57
anthonyWhat does the error "sh: gcc: command not found12:57
anthonydpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)" mean? Am I missing certain packages?12:57
onkarshindeZapata: 5.10 (latest)12:57
BockBilbo:) thanks thoreauputic12:57
Pepsanyone can help me setup an external monitor for a laptop? The laptop is wide screen - the external monitor is not ....12:57
sorush20onkarshinde: I keep getting the message that it couldn't find the ext2 file system.. how can I fix this..12:57
thoreauputicMaTaKs: rmdir if empty, rm -r if not12:57
ZapataIs ther a server version?12:57
DaveyHey, btw, I thought Breezy was to have a bootsplash? What happened to that?12:57
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onkarshindeanthony: Have you installed gcc?12:58
aftertafZapata:  all can be server versions12:58
robotgeekZapata: you can do a server install12:58
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thoreauputicZapata: there's a server option for the install12:58
MaTaKsthoreauputic: its not empty. whats the exact command?12:58
BockBilbothoreauputic, by the way, does breezy use any firewall by default? (iptables?)12:58
onkarshindesorush20: Beyond my understanding.12:58
bigfoot1thoreauputic,  i tried  sudo apt-get install skype and got error. please cf http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/307012:58
aftertafZapata:  you have a server install option at boot from cd, to avoid installing unneccesary stuff12:58
robotgeekanthony: try apt-get install build-essential12:58
bimberibigfoot1: i think the other packages are dependant on postfix being configured.  I had this earlier and got around it by stopping postfix and then running "apt-get -f install"12:58
thoreauputicMaTaKs: rm -r folder name12:58
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aftertafbigfoot1:  libqt?12:58
ianTrying to update a Win98 Sony Viao with no working bootable devices using loadlin....12:58
Knorriewhy doesn't http://www.getubuntu.com/ exist?12:58
anthonyonkarshinde and robotgeek: Okay, I'll give those a try, thanks.12:58
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MaTaKsthoreauputic: ok thnx12:58
Zapataok, good, thanks12:58
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sorush20how do I change my change my display manager sudo dpkg reconfigure-dm12:59
maswanKnorrie: why should it exist?12:59
bigfoot1bimberi, okay. what's postfix anyway? and why do we have this problem? Did the developers forget to fix this or something?12:59
bigfoot1aftertaf, what's libqt for+12:59
Knorriemaswan: ah, here :) http://www.spreadubuntu.org/12:59
bigfoot1?12:59
ian"Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root...."12:59
robotgeeksorush20: dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:59
onkarshindebigfoot1: Are you already running synaptic? close it.12:59
bimberibigfoot1: it's the mail transport agent (MTA)12:59
thoreauputicElitism_Phoenix: please ak questions in channel - people are kind of busy12:59
bigfoot1onkarshinde, i closed it.12:59
aftertafbigfoot1:  a guess of your skype prbem12:59
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MaTaKsthoreauputic:  dude but its lock protected.. how can i unlocked the folder?12:59
thoreauputic!tell Elitism_Phoenix about msg12:59
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MaTaKsnever mind i got it01:00
onkarshindebigfoot1: You will need to install it using 'sudo dpkg --install skypefile.deb'01:00
kapulhi01:00
thoreauputicMaTaKs: what are you tryin to delete? There's probably  a good reason for that01:00
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bigfoot1bimberi, will the stop of postfix be permanent? Do i want it to be permanent?01:00
bimberibigfoot1: yes it could be a bug :/01:00
onkarshindebigfoot1: Because skype is not included in any repos, apt-get doesn't know it.01:00
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zerologichello all01:00
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bimberibigfoot1: no, it's only temporary01:00
robotgeekbimberi: it doesn't really matter unless u run a mail server01:00
T0aDlo all01:00
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mucodoes ubuntu fair better than mandriva01:01
robotgeekbimberi: sorry, tab completion error01:01
Skidanyone have any problems with pcmcia wifi nics, after upgrading to breezY? mine doesnt' get an ip from the dhcp server anymore01:01
bigfoot1bimberi, so no need to restart it again?01:01
sorush20what does it mean when data verification on a floppy fails ?01:01
T0aDi need someone to tell me what Im supposed to have in directory /etc/X11/kbd/compiled01:01
JDigitalHey, is there a manual for Ubuntu or Linux or what?01:01
onkarshindemuco: Yes if you love GNOME01:01
MaTaKshow to delete file using terminal?01:01
reikiI get many warnings during upgrade about unable to set locale...looks like something with perl... should I be concerned?01:01
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kapulafter dist-upgrade to breez i cannot turn on xterm with black background (xterm -rv), why??01:01
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robotgeekbigfoot1: it doesn't really matter unless u run a mail server, i have mine not to start01:01
thoreauputicMaTaKs: you didn't bother to answer me01:01
bigfoot1bimberi, you're cool, I just ran apt-get -f install, and no more error messages!!!01:01
JDigitalThere has to be a better way to learn things without asking people on IRC all the time01:01
bimberibigfoot1: no, i think the postfix configuration step, once successful, will restart01:01
mucokde onkarshinde01:01
svizzeroanyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?01:02
MaTaKsthat was folder you told me, now im asking for file01:02
bigfoot1robotgeek, i have no mail server on my computer i think. I mean, I do have email, but that's with gmail. My pc is just a regular home pc.01:02
thoreauputicMaTaKs: the permissions are there for a reason01:02
robotgeekJDigital: man <foo>01:02
onkarshindemuco: Then you must go for KUbuntu. But I don't know how it is good than mandriva.01:02
bimberibigfoot1: in this case i just happen to have had a similar experience :)01:02
mortenrobotgeek: errors were encountered while processing: postfix lsb-core lsb-graphics lsb-cxx lsb E sub process /etc/bin/dpkg returned with an error code (1)01:02
thoreauputicMaTaKs: type  man rm   and read01:02
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JDigitalThe manpage only helps if you know what program you need.01:03
MaTaKsok01:03
bigfoot1bimberi, but i wonder if it's just you and me. I bet many people have this problem. What do you reckon+01:03
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bigfoot1?01:03
sorush20kfloppy format fails but gnome doesn't ?!!!01:03
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Sarkie#pearpc01:03
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Sarkieoops01:03
Sarkiesorry01:03
knewtanyone got any idea when the breezy dvd will be available?01:03
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JDigitalI'm talking about more along the lines of a beginner's manual book. An "Ubuntu For Dummies" kind of affair.01:03
svizzeroanyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?01:03
robotgeekbigfoot1: yeah, if you want you can stop it from starting "sudo update-rc.d remove /etc/init.d/postfix"01:03
thoreauputicMaTaKs: I suggest you bookmark http://tuxfiles.org as well :)01:03
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kaptainkis there any root terminal in breezy?01:03
bimberimorten, try "sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop", then retry what you were doing01:03
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thoreauputickaptaink: just type  sudo -i and give your password01:04
kaptainkok01:04
reikisorry..asking again as I keep seeing this while I'm upgrading...01:04
reikiI get many warnings during upgrade about unable to set locale...looks like something with perl... should I be concerned?01:04
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bimberibigfoot1 (robotgeek): i don't think you need to stop postfix from starting now that it has been successfully configured01:04
thoreauputicreiki: only if th upgrade fails ;)01:04
reikifunny... heheh01:04
reiki:)01:04
robotgeekbigfoot1: it's sudo update-rc.d  /etc/init.d/postfix remove01:05
bimberireiki: i got those messages too, they stop once the locales package gets reconfigured01:05
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thoreauputicreiki: if you use a non-enghlish language you may need to install language packs01:05
robotgeekbimberi: it serves no useful purpose01:05
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avalenteis there anything like BizUbuntu? as in Edubuntu..01:05
stevejesusahhh.  they dont have amarok 1.3 in the repos for hoary.  one more reason to upgrade01:05
robotgeekstevejesus: :)01:05
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bimberirobotgeek: ok01:05
SarkieWhat are the packages for help, since Yelp is empty01:05
kaptainksorry, one more question, where do i access GrubConf?01:05
bigfoot1so guys, how can i install skype on breezy? I had it on hoary, but I guess it's against OSS rules to have them automatically upgraded.01:05
robotgeekstevejesus: they have got you suckered!01:05
svizzeroanyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?01:05
thoreauputickaptaink: erm - /boot/grub/menu.lst01:06
bimberiavalente: i reckon ubuntu itself is good for bizubuntu :)01:06
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bigfoot1when i say install skype, i mean RE-install skype.01:06
robotgeeksvizzero: isn't that done automatically?01:06
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reikididn't it set locale right at the beginning when I chose us english?01:06
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bimberibigfoot1: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:06
kaptainki want the graphical version though01:06
kaptainki heard its included with breezy01:06
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robotgeeksvizzero: you can symlink /usr/bin/java to <sun java>01:07
stevejesusah oh well.  its alomst the same.  once i get everything working the way i like, ill do a distro-upgrade.  boy that type of stuff opens up a serious can o worms in fc01:07
avalentebimberi: but anything specific.. as we have edubuntu01:07
taliossvizzero, update-alternatives --config java01:07
thoreauputicbigfoot1: it isn't about rules - those packages are simply not in the repos so you have to get them elsewhere01:07
pierohi for all, guys and lady..;)01:07
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julohi01:07
bimberiavalente: not as far as i know01:07
robotgeeksvizzero: do what talios says,it's better01:07
bigfoot1bimberi, i went to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/, but nothing is appearing. or maybe i should just wait. what's at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/?01:07
thoreauputicbigfoot1: although it's doubtful they ever will be because of licensing01:07
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Seveasbigfoot1, what are you looking for?01:07
juloPlease could anyone tell me wether gnome-cups-manager works correctly (able too add a printer) on a freshly installed breezy ?01:08
Seveas(yes the index pages of my repo are offline)01:08
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bimberibigfoot1: yes, i just tried it too01:08
sobersabrewhere can I get a skype of the latest version for breezy ?01:08
tckanyone run breexy with kismet and an orinoco card ?01:08
thoreauputicSeveas: he wants skype and opera01:08
ianLooking for help with a windowa installation of ubuntu - using loadlin....getting "error unable to mount root fs..."01:08
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Seveasopera -> get the debian sid version01:08
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bigfoot1Seveas, bimberi sent me that link.  LEt's ask him. bimberi: why'd you send me that link?01:08
bimberiSeveas: i pointed bigfoot1 there for skype for breezy01:08
Seveasbreezy -> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras01:08
Seveasthat's for skype01:08
robotgeekwhat's wrong with opera from opera.com?01:08
juloCould anyone try to add a printer using gnome-cups-manager ? On my breezy, I get an error about a missing gnomesu.01:08
SeveasThe debian etch version of opera works fine on breezy01:09
juloI reported as a bug, but it was closed NOTABUG !?01:09
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bigfoot1Seveas, is that line you gave (deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras) better than just getting the deb file from skype.com+01:09
bigfoot1?01:09
sobersabreSeveas, THANKS...01:09
cjhcjhcjhI have a bizarre problem with my mouse in X...the system seems to loose track of where the mouse is focused, so e.g. in the browser, when I am clicking in the files area, the places tab in the sidebar is moving. Also left-click stops working. Sometimes r-click fixes it. USB mouse on a laptop with a trackpad...and BTW if I use the trackpad the mouse cursor flies all over the pace and clicks things at random01:09
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robotgeeki guess it is better as the direct bin files throw stuff around, making uninstallation a pain01:09
sumonhello01:09
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BiSK-8hello01:09
Seveasbigfoot1, the thing from skype.com has a packaging bug01:10
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BiSK-8how can i check how much ram i have with ubuntu?01:10
sumonanybody knows how to install the extentions of firefox in ubuntu01:10
bigfoot1Seveas, i'm interested in fixing my opera too. it was working on hoary, but now it's "Not installed". what is this "debian etch version" that you mentioned?01:10
robotgeekBiSK-8: free01:10
thoreauputicBiSK-8: free -m01:10
bimberibigfoot1: http://packages.debian.org01:10
Seveasbigfoot1, go to opera.com and select 'debian etch' when downloading01:10
BiSK-8k thx01:10
bimberibigfoot1: but Seveas' advice is better (as usual :P)01:11
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sorush20how do I get rid of an error format track#001:11
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bigfoot1Seveas, so your site at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl... only contains stuff that the official sources (such as skype.com) have packaging errors for?01:11
cjhcjhcjhHow do I edit a file as root, when logged in as a user?01:11
sumonanybody knows how to install the extentions of firefox in ubuntu01:11
cjhcjhcjhin x, BTW01:11
bigfoot1Seveas, are you on ubuntu staff+01:11
bigfoot1?01:11
robotgeeksorush20: i think that usually means that the floppy's first sector is corrupted01:11
sumonsudo01:11
sumonuse sudo01:11
thoreauputic!tell cjhcjhcjh about root01:11
Seveasbigfoot1, that and thing I improved or created01:11
pierobye for all, folks!!01:12
robotgeeksumon: nope, install from firefox Tools -> Extensions01:12
Seveasbigfoot1, no I'm not, i'm just an enthousiast community member01:12
sorush20robotgeek: is there a way to fix this issure.?01:12
sumonrobotgeek , it doesn't work01:12
robotgeeksorush20: it's useless if you want to use it for booting01:12
mortenrobotgeek: i still cant reinstall ubumtu-desktop01:12
bigfoot1Seveas, okay, i just added deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras to my sources.list. now how do i re-install skype?01:12
robotgeeksumon: what error does it give you?01:12
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thoreauputic!doesn't work01:12
sumonrobotgeek , its not downloading anything01:12
ubotufrom memory, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.01:12
Seveasbigfoot1, apt-get install --reinstall skype01:13
robotgeeksumon: you would need to go to Tools -> Extensions -> Get more extensions01:13
bigfoot1Seveas, just curious: what would happen if i type "install" rather than "reinstall"?01:13
bigfoot1Seveas, would that cause problems?01:13
aftertafitd say package already installed.01:14
aftertafi think01:14
Seveasbigfoot1, dunno :)01:14
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: no it wouldn't, if the newer version is available01:14
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sumonrobotgeek: it says not a valid package01:14
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.01:14
aftertafEnsignRedshirt:  are you a programming language?01:14
sorush20robotgeek: well I can't even mount it to read it in konqueror01:14
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: if no newer version is available it tells you :)01:14
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robotgeeksorush20: nope, floppy is pretty much useless :(01:15
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, it tells me when i run "install" or when i run "reinstall"? Which+01:15
bigfoot1?01:15
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sorush20I missed that what did you say01:15
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: if you run install01:15
robotgeeksorush20: i said it was useless :(01:15
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julocome on guys ! Could anyone please try to add a printer on Breezy ? I need to know if the printing tool is only broken on my computer. It will take you 5 seconds.01:15
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svizzeroanyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?01:16
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if there's a newer version, it just installs it01:16
robotgeeksorush20: get another floppy01:16
rob^!java01:16
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:16
EnsignRedshirtjulo: I added a printer yesterday.01:16
Seveasjulo, it works here...01:16
robotgeekjulo: i think if you mentioned what printer you had, ppl could help you01:16
rob^pfft wtf is that?01:16
reikiconsidering the apparent size of the user base and anticipating continued growth, will there be a way in the future to check which servers are being slammed and choose (possibly) a less used one for doing an upgrade like this?01:16
bigfoot1thoreauputic, so what's the use of the "reinstall" parameter then?01:16
svizzerothx talios01:16
aftertafEnsignRedshirt:  :D01:16
sobersabrejulo which stage fails ?01:16
bigfoot1Seveas, i added your line to my sources list and then did the command you gave. i got error message: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/307201:16
aftertafreiki:  send energy to the archive cluster, help it stay up :)01:16
robotgeekbigfoot1: reinstalls the original package, in case you removed some key files :)01:16
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EnsignRedshirtjulo: However, it did not automatically detect the printer.  I had to select "USB Printer #1"01:16
julorobotgeek, sobersabre: double-clicking on "add printer" fails because gnomesu is missing.01:17
aftertafreiki:  or change sources.list to ftp:// :D01:17
stevejesusgoodnight everyone and thank you for your help01:17
reikiaftertaf: good thought :)01:17
sobersabrejulo... HOW ABOUT INSTALLING IT ?01:17
aftertafreiki:  which one? :D01:17
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reikiaftertaf first one hehehe01:17
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aftertafreiki:  hehe :)01:17
robotgeeksumon: breezy?01:17
sobersabrejulo, there's another idea: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:18
rob^ubotu no java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:18
uboturob^: okay01:18
Seveasbigfoot1, apt-get update01:18
aftertafreiki:  CKR SHK HSZSN :)01:18
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reikiaftertaf: Dai Ko Myo01:18
julosobersabre: well, it should whether be a dependency of gnome-cups-manager, or gnome-cups-manager should be able to do without it. Elese, it's abug that needs resolving.01:18
aftertafhehehe01:18
MaTaKscan i install macromedia fireworks on linux?01:18
EnsignRedshirtProbably a FAQ: (I was using warty until yesterday.) What happened to the email notification tool that I could add to the top panel in gnome?01:19
gorthaughi, in the gnome-applet clock, in the calendar the week start on sunday... how i can chage it for monday??01:19
bigfoot1Seveas, i got error message after running update. please look at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/307301:19
robotgeekjulo: mostly dependencies are compile based01:19
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robotgeekgorthaug: right click and adjust time :)01:19
aftertafMaTaKs:  not really, its windows.01:19
thoreauputic_bigfoot1: sorry, I got disconnected01:20
cjhcjhcjh(trying to learn about sudo) If I choose Apps, Systools, "Run as a different user" and enter gedit, nothing happens :-(01:20
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juloThanks anyway, I'll try to find where the bug comes from.01:20
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MaTaKsaftertaf: how bout photoshop?01:20
gorthaugrobotgeek, thid option don't here01:20
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aftertaf!tell MaTaKs about equivalents01:20
_TemujinAny kernel compilers here?01:20
aftertafMaTaKs:  gimp01:20
robotgeekgorthaug: really?? weird01:20
Seveasbigfoot1, gpg --recv-keys 49A120FD1135D466 && gpg --export --armor 49A120FD1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -01:20
Seveasand then apt-get update01:20
MaTaKswhat's gimp?01:20
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bigfoot1seveas, do i run that gpg line into terminal+?01:20
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robotgeekbigfoot1: yup01:21
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aftertafMaTaKs:  use your internet connection to find information...... it works too :)01:21
_TemujinI need to compile a module, so I need the breezy kernel source tree.01:21
cjhcjhcjhMaTaKs, a graphics editor, a bit like photoshop01:21
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_TemujinWhere is it?01:21
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Seveasbigfoot1, yup01:21
bimbericjhcjhcjh: sudo gedit <file> (from a terminal)01:21
robotgeek_Temujin: first get sudo apt-get install build-essential01:21
guangu23hello01:21
sumonrobotgeek: not breezy , hoary01:21
guangu23who can help me01:22
robotgeek_Temujin: if all you need are kernel headers, that will do.01:22
bigfoot1Seveas, is your livelihood Linux related, coz you're really smart01:22
gorthaugrobotgeek, see here http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/307401:22
EnsignRedshirtAnyone?  What happened to the little tool bar app that I could set up to show an animated Tux when I had email?01:22
ompaulguangu23, people may be able to, when they know your question01:22
MaTaKscjhcjhcjh: what's better photoshop or gimp?, or juz kinda similar01:22
robotgeek_Temujin: nope, my bad. you will need to install kernel-headers01:22
guangu23Wo can help me01:22
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bigfoot1MaTaKs, gimp is free (no money)01:22
Seveasbigfoot1, yes, in a way01:22
guangu23Who can help me01:22
psichron!tell psichron kubuntu01:22
cjhcjhcjhrobotgeek, speaking of build-essential and such things...I am not sure that everything was installed here; for a start, "man" is missing...is there a way to check / install all basic components?01:22
desplesdaguangu23:  ask your question please01:22
thoreauputicbigfoot1: gimp is free ( as in Freedom ) << as well :)01:23
guangu23I find my network is slow01:23
desplesdaguangu23:  we get a lot of questions in here, so don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask away!01:23
cjhcjhcjhMaTaKs, probably personal preference01:23
daanI have a audigy zs notebook wich goes into my pcmcia slot. but once i put it in the slot my computer hangs. can anyone help me with that?01:23
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guangu23thank you01:23
guangu23i see01:23
_Temujinkernel-package looks like it might have everything01:23
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bigfoot1MaTaKs, but if cost is not an issue, i think photoshop is better. (I don't really know. I don't have the money to try out Photoshop!)01:23
reikiwhen this is all done updating... will I need to reboot? It would amaze me if it can make this many changes and not require a reboot. I know it's linux, but...01:24
robotgeekgorthaug: doesn't just clicking on the date change stuff. also you can try "Synchronize Now"01:24
_Temujinor linux-linux-headers-2.6.12-9 or headers-2.6.12-9-386 or01:24
ompaulguangu23, you have to now give more indormaiton, like what kind of network what kind of connection, which ubuntu version you are using how you connect to the network01:24
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dansthi can somebody tell me what the standard dev-node for the parallel port is?01:24
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i guess the downside of free software is that the development is worse, would'nt you say?01:24
guangu23i am useing the ADSL01:24
thoreauputicbigfoot1: on the contrary01:24
robotgeek_Temujin: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`01:24
guangu23i am a chinese01:24
rob^bigfoot1, its usually better01:24
guangu23My english is so poor01:25
robotgeekreiki: you don't have to if you don't want to!01:25
reikirobotgeek ok... then I'm amazed! :)01:25
bigfoot1thoreauputic, rob^ i just think of openoffice and what looks like a hi-tech MS OFfice.01:26
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ompaulguangu23, what is your adsl connection speed? (your English is okay) how do you connect to it, wireless, wired, if wired what kind of connection is it an adsl card or is it ethernet to a router01:26
thoreauputicbigfoot1: more secure, more rapidly updated, more accessible, better in almost every way - of course closed source apps are sometimes better01:26
robotgeekreiki: though for kernel updates to be applied, you would need a reboot. i guess anything not being used is updated and can be used immediately01:26
rob^MS Office has a lot of money behind it, and been around longer01:26
ompaulguangu23, when you say network do you mean home network, or internet connection01:26
gogetaanyone knoe why my sound is messed01:26
bigfoot1thoreauputic, but when you think of openoffice apps, don't you think they are primitive compared to MS office?01:26
sumonrobotgeek , anyidea why i cannot get new extentions in firefox?01:27
robotgeekbigfoot1: openoffice is very nice01:27
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if there is a problem with Free/Open Source, it's likely you can contribute to improve it01:27
guangu23My ADSL is about 2mps01:27
robotgeeksumon: no idea01:27
bigfoot1Seveas, i ran that update command again, and i have some messages relating to your repo. Please see http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/307501:27
daanI have a audigy zs notebook wich goes into my pcmcia slot. but once i put it in the slot my computer hangs. can anyone help me with that?01:27
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i'm no geek. i can't fix it.01:27
robotgeekbigfoot1: and mostly a better interface than MSOffice01:27
ompaulbigfoot1, when I think of MS office I think closed source and when I think of alternatives I think they have enough functionality for me to be very happy using them as I have for 10 years01:27
thoreauputicbigfoot1: there are other ways to help01:27
Seveasbigfoot1, meh, my repositiry is broken :/01:28
EnsignRedshirtAhhh... is gdesklets-data what I want, or mail-notification?01:28
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i can submit bugs.01:28
robotgeekbigfoot1: like i do here01:28
thoreauputicbigfoot1: I'm not a programmer but I can help in IRC01:28
robotgeekEnsignRedshirt: probably gdesklets01:28
danst/dev/parport0 does not seem to be the standard parallel port. what is it??01:28
Seveasbigfoot1, grab http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb manually and dpkg -i it01:28
bigfoot1Seveas, so what must i do if i want to get a clean package of skype. (You mentioned that the skype package from skype.com has packaging errors)01:28
guangu23But when i use the ubuntu linux,i find it is so slow01:28
bimberidanst: (at a guess) /dev/lp0 ?01:28
_Temujinrobogeek> Thanks... Now I need to get the module source for my Cisco VPN client :)01:28
Seveasbigfoot1, I just said what to do :)01:29
EnsignRedshirt...or maybe notification-daemon?  This one is supported by Ubuntu, but I'm not sure what it does.01:29
robotgeek_Temujin: have fun compiling!01:29
guangu23i used windows before01:29
bigfoot1Seveas, is "dpkg -i" a newbie-friendly command to run?01:29
Seveasbigfoot1, no01:29
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rob^heh01:29
Seveasbut it runs ;)01:29
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robotgeek:)01:29
_Temujinrobogeek> And if I want to tweek my kernel... do I get kernel-package?01:29
Seveasnewbie friendly would be me fixung my repo01:29
dooglus_Temujin: get 'vpnc' - that connects you to Cisco VPNs01:29
guangu23ompaul:???01:29
reikiok... update just finished. I'm going to reboot to get the new kernel running... back in a few (hopefully).01:29
Seveasbut I don't have time for that now01:29
_Temujinyeah?01:29
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dooglusyeah!  :)01:29
_TemujinWithout tainting?01:29
ompaulbigfoot1, well one of the things you can do it go to skype and get the tgz and follow their instructions, you can also do stuff like go to skype and complain that it does not work out of the box with ubuntu01:29
danstbimberi, sorry it's not lp0 as well... dmesg doesnt tell me the port... what is it at your pc?01:30
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if you're frustrated with skype and opera it isn't ubuntu's fault you know ;-)01:30
dooglustainting?  the kernel you mean?01:30
aftertaflol Seveas antin00b :)01:30
_Temujinyeah01:30
bimberidanst: don't be sorry, i am, but i was guessing :)01:30
guangu23Then how can I updata my system01:30
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i'm not frustrated with skype or opera. what made you think that?01:30
noodlehow do i change the default 386 kernel to a 686 one?01:30
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dooglusI don't know what that means, but I never had a problem with it01:30
mahanguanyone recomend any cool desktop widgets to work with ubuntu?01:31
thoreauputicbigfoot1: oh OK - I thought you were complaining about having to use dpkg for them :)01:31
bigfoot1ompaul, what's the best way to get skype? what's the cleanest way? Most newbie-friendly way?01:31
dooglus_Temujin: you'll have to find the real network key, not the long expanded one, but there are ways of doing that01:31
_TemujinI feel like a n00b switching to Ubuntu... First Debian I've used...01:31
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, i wasn't complaining. i just didn't know what dpkg does.01:31
robotgeekbigfoot1: man dpkg :)01:31
thoreauputicbigfoot1: OK - now worries :)01:31
thoreauputicheh *no* worries I meant01:32
jaspguangu23:  if you are trying to install apllications through the ubuntu server, that can be slow at the moment, normally it's much faster01:32
bigfoot1Seveas, so your skype deb is better than the deb at skype.com, is this correct?01:32
guangu23what king linux do you use01:32
TFP_hi01:32
thoreauputicbigfoot1:  If it works, it's better ;)01:32
guangu23jasp01:32
bigfoot1thoreauputic, why do you say so?01:33
guangu23jasp/01:33
TFP_how can i start a programm on startup under ubuntu? a deamon01:33
robotgeekbigfoot1: working > not working :)01:33
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: that;s why he made it - the skype.com deb is broken01:33
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i gotcha.01:33
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thoreauputic:)01:33
sedekii have some truetype fonts i want to install. were do i put them?01:33
reikiok.. rebooted fine... update manager has a couple updates for me already01:33
robotgeekTFP_: use update-rc.d <script> defaults01:33
ompaulguangu23, sorry I do not understand your update question, can you give more information01:34
thoreauputicbigfoot1: an example of the community doing a better job :)01:34
jaspI'm upgrading from ubuntu hoary to breezy at the moment.01:34
sedekihere /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType ??01:34
johntramphey is there a way to have nautilus only use browser mode01:34
mahangui want to move my gnome application menu to another panel, can i do that>01:34
redguy|workTFP_: you should make a script that launches the program and put it in /etc/init.d/, then do as robotgeek says01:34
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_Temujinand to get the complete kernel source tree for breezy?01:34
jasplike many other people..01:34
ompaulguangu23, for package updates, in a terminal >sudo apt-get update<  > sudo apt-get upgrade<  that is for bug fixing01:34
dooglusmahangu: right-click it and say 'move'01:34
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cjhcjhcjhwhere should I install realplayer, so that firefox can find it?01:34
bigfoot1Seveas, maybe you can give your deb file to skype01:34
MaTaKswhat's better xchat or irssi?01:35
[R] hi, i've got a problem since i use Breezy : when i try to reboot (sudo reboot), it does a power off :-/01:35
thoreauputicbigfoot1: hah01:35
guangu23ompaul,such as install a mysql01:35
sumonrobotgeek, i have an old version of firefox01:35
bigfoot1thoreauputic, don't you think it's a good idea.01:35
bigfoot1?01:35
thoreauputicbigfoot1: why would he do that unless they open their code?01:35
sumonrobotgeek, 1.0.701:35
dansthi everyone, where could I find the device adress of my parallel port (it's not lp0 and not parport0)01:35
dooglusMaTaKs: xchat is graphical, irssi is text based.  they're different01:35
ompaulguangu23 I am going to get the bot to send you a message that is ubotu01:35
bigfoot1thoreauputic, you mean seveas hacked into a close-coded app?01:35
TFP_redguy|work: and what has to be in that script?01:35
guangu23where can i get a mysql package01:35
robotgeeksumon: 1.0.7 is the newest i guess01:35
mahangudooglus, wont move :(01:36
cjhcjhcjhwhat subdir should I install an app to? (eg realplayer)01:36
thoreauputicbigfoot1: they don't give the community their code - no he just added the necessary dependencies etc01:36
ompaul!tell guangu23 about synaptic01:36
bigfoot1is there a way to "dpkg -i" a deb using GUI? Will synaptic do it?01:36
dooglusmahangu: is it 'locked to panel'?  if so, untick that01:36
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Seveasbigfoot1, no there is no way yet01:36
robotgeekTFP_: whatever you need to run the daemon01:36
bimberibigfoot1: no01:36
sumonrobotgeek , oh ya .. but the extentions are not made for the newest version01:36
reikiok.. all done except mplayer-586 is not upgraded01:36
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bigfoot1Seveas, bimberi . okay, time to go to the dark side: terminal01:36
mahangudooglus, if i delete it, can i add it to a panel again?01:36
robotgeeksumon: then just wait01:36
guangu23how can i recever it01:36
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TFP_ah ok01:37
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TFP_thx01:37
robotgeekTFP_: np01:37
robotgeekmahangu: yeah, you can add it back01:37
dooglusmahangu: sure.  but you should be able to move it.  you don't drag mind you - just right-click, click 'move', then let go of the mouse buttons and move the mouse pointer to the other panel01:37
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Seveasbigfoot1, no, the Dark Side is KDE, the terminal is merely the semi-transparent side :)01:37
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cjhcjhcjhI installed realplayer to the default folder - ie in my desktop...but firefox cant find it to play a file. Should I move it? Or put a shortcut somewhere?01:37
bimberiSeveas: lol01:37
robotgeekSeveas: kde is alrite :)01:37
bigfoot1Seveas, oh you're a gnome user.01:38
dooglusmahangu: you can add another one to the other panel before you delete the first one if you want - that way you'll not end up with none of them...01:38
thoreauputicSeveas: now now ;)01:38
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mahanguthanks robotgeek , dooglus01:38
ompaulthoreauputic, but he is so right :)01:38
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mahangudooglus, how can i add01:38
guangu23ompaul,you are a kind man01:38
Seveaslooks like I steppd on some ktoes here :)01:38
mahanguthey dont have such an applet01:38
dooglusmahangu: right-click, add to panel01:38
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ompaulguangu23, I try to help :)01:38
dooglusyou have to right-click on an empty bit of panel...01:38
guangu23how can i connet you next time01:38
mahangudooglus, and add what?01:38
robotgeekSeveas: i use gnome myself, but with openbox as the wm :)01:38
thoreauputicompaul: come to the light side! Use fluxbox!01:38
mahanguthere is no such applet01:38
bigfoot1Seveas, you gave me an unnecessary scare! dpkg -i IS newbie friendly. I thought that that command was the first step of many. But it does it all!01:38
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cyberixaeWhy doesn't my xmodmap do anything?01:38
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dooglusmahangu: add 'menu bar'01:39
cyberixaeIt gives no errors01:39
cyberixaeBut it doesn't affect the keyboard layout in any way.01:39
Seveasbigfoot1, hehe, if you have KDE installed that is ;)01:39
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Seveasotherwise it will spew errors01:39
BiSK-8hello01:39
guangu23ompaul,how can i find you next time01:39
dooglusmahangu: or try adding 'main menu' instead.  it's the same, but takes up 10 times less screen space01:39
Seveas(in the case of this package)01:39
bigfoot1Seveas, dpkg -i in kde is a horror film?01:40
BiSK-8whats the package that i have 2 install to use the command make or make install?01:40
ompaulguangu23, come in ask your question, give as much detail as you can and others can help you also :)01:40
mahangudooglus, cool01:40
mahanguthanks mate01:40
Seveasbigfoot1, no, but nevermind :)01:40
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aftertafbigfoot1:  when you look at MSOffice, dont you find it bloatware compared to openoffice?01:40
guangu23thank you01:40
aftertaf:D01:40
dooglusglad to be of service :)01:40
guangu23i will01:40
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joniak99question????  I dual boot right now with Ubuntu as my main,  i need to upgrade my windows and as i have done this before i am afraid i will not be able to get into my ubuntu later how can i back up my info. in ubuntu01:40
bigfoot1aftertaf, yes i guess. but from the little i know of the newest version, it's very high-tech.01:40
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ompaulguangu23, well you can always hang around and see if you can give help :)01:40
thoreauputicguangu23: finding ompaul isn't a problem - avoiding him *is* ;-)01:41
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robotgeekbigfoot1: half of my thesis was written in OO.org01:41
aftertafyeah, but do we NEED it all?01:41
ompaulhahaha01:41
Toma-im getting a nasty message from konqueror "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly" i run it in a term and get "end from FAM server connection" any clues on a fix?01:41
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guangu23*ompaul*01:41
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guangu23?????01:41
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guangu23I can't undstand01:41
aftertafguangu23:  you dont want to ;)01:42
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guangu23to where01:42
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bigfoot1seveas, I can't find debian etch version of opera at http://opera.com/download/?platform=linux01:42
Da_Putzlerhi folks...01:42
bigfoot1i just re-installed skype, but all my contacts are gone!01:43
dooglusbigfoot1: the static one works fine01:43
robotgeekokay, i gotta hit the bed now...cya folks later01:43
Da_PutzlerJust installed Ubuntu 5.10 and everything works great, except the server lists... it stalls when refreshing01:43
EnsignRedshirtOK, the gdesklet mail notification works, but I would rather have a smaller icon in the toolbar.  What happened to the old email notifcation toolbar app that was available in warty?01:43
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aftertafDa_Putzler:  network load...01:43
GNAMterrible01:43
bigfoot1forget it. Skype HAS my contacts.01:43
robotgeekDa_Putzler: servers are slammed right now01:43
bigfoot1I made a mistake of opening two instances of skype and one of them had no contacts. Sorry. Ignore this.01:43
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Da_Putzleroh, so give it some time 'til everything quietens down01:44
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aftertafDa_Putzler:  or change http to ftp ;)01:44
guangu23I must to work now,thanks for your help,ompaul01:44
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cuscohow do I make small calculations on bash?01:44
Da_Putzlerah, good point01:44
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reikiin Synaptic I have several things listed under Not Installed (residual config) ... what's that mean?01:44
cuscolike 192/301:45
nomedanyone using ivman with xfce ?01:45
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, are you on dial-up?01:45
Da_Putzlercan u answer a quick network question ?01:45
thoreauputiccusco:  echo $[2 + 2] 01:45
cuscothoreauputic: cheers01:45
dooglusI only just got the security package for openssl.  the package is timestamped 21 hours ago.  are the mirrors that far behind really?01:45
thoreauputicbigfoot1: yes, sadly01:45
bigfoot1thoreauputic, is high-speed internet expensive in your area?01:45
doogluscusco: ((x=x+2))01:45
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MaTaKsi install a 3dchess, how can i run the game?01:46
Da_PutzlerHow come when I enable my Wireless card in Ubuntu, the keyboard slows down and repeats when I type ???01:46
thoreauputicbigfoot1: fairly - but I'm rather poor as well ;)01:46
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i'm sad to hear that.01:46
pittidooglus: no, we just had some delay with setting up breezy-security01:46
ompaulguangu23, no problem01:46
pittidooglus: that's fine01:46
bigfoot1thoreauputic, how much is the average monthly price of hi-speed internet in your area?01:46
thoreauputicbigfoot1: Oh I don't mind really - my needs are modest :)01:46
cjhcjhcjhWoot have Radio4...thanks for all the tips on that one...you all rock01:46
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, i see.01:46
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guangu2388888888888888801:46
TrackilizerHey, just wanted to ask is it possible to update to Breezy using only the Breezy CD, the reason i ask is be cause about half way though Synaptic stops reading the CD and starts downloading, is this normal?01:47
bigfoot1guangu23, all right, you've learned to type the number eight. Now on to the number nine.01:47
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jaspMaTaKs:if there is no shortcur in Applications/Games menu, you can create one, or open a terminal and type 3dchess.01:47
thoreauputicTrackilizer: yes, if you have extra apps that aren't on the CD, of course01:47
thoreauputicbigfoot1: 9 is too far to reach :)01:48
MaTaKsjasp:  i tried 3dchess  but say's no such file or directory01:48
Ky0tIkanyone else getting a bad gpg signature ?01:48
Ky0tIkW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>01:48
bigfoot1thoreauputic, you gotta start each day with some pinky-stretching exercise.01:48
thoreauputicbigfoot1: good idea :)01:48
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thoreauputicKy0tIk: I got one a few hours ago - it cleared up01:49
EnsignRedshirtKy0tIk: I got the same error yesterday the first time I reloaded in synaptic.  I clicked OK, and everything has worked find since then.01:49
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EnsignRedshirts/find/fine/01:49
thoreauputicKy0tIk: I suggest waiting a while and trying again01:49
Ky0tIki think its a server side problem01:49
Ky0tIki was just making sure01:49
TrackilizerSo, how do i set Synaptic to use only the  CD to update?01:49
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thoreauputicKy0tIk: the servers are having an overwork crisis :)01:50
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: what did you use in the end to get radio 4?01:50
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bigfoot1i just reinstalled opera, and i get an error message. please refer http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/307601:50
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Ky0tIkthoreauputic: i noticed that :D01:50
daanwhen i try to start enemy territory i get: Received error 11: exiting...       can someone help?01:50
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mgedminI've missing nautilus icons after upgrade to breezy -- any ideas?01:50
thoreauputicKy0tIk: not yet a nervous breakdown though ;)01:51
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avalentelocales should be one of the first packages to be reconfigured on update... because of the perl errors.. :S01:51
bigfoot1the opera problem is about motif wrapper (for realplayer).  What is this motif thingy?01:51
lolimaple syrup doesn't go well with paper plates :(01:51
thoreauputicmgedmin: try changing theme01:51
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TrackilizerSo has anyone updated from Hoary to Breezy using only the CD?01:51
thoreauputicloli: quotes of the day :)01:51
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, realplayer01:51
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loli^_^01:51
kbrooksTrackilizer: no, i use the net01:51
lolibbl01:52
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nassohas anyone seen the breezy cd-cover?01:52
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mgedminthoreauputic, that helped -- thanks a lot01:52
TrackilizerWell, the net is rather slow now, but i have the CD so i just wanted to know if i can upgrade using only the CD.01:52
kbrooksTrackilizer: yes you can01:52
kbrooksadd the cdrom01:52
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thoreauputicmgedmin: you're welcome :)01:53
TrackilizerErm.... how?01:53
TrackilizerI don't know how.01:53
[R] hi, i use Breezy, and when i try to reboot (sudo reboot), it does actually a power off :-(. Any idea ?01:53
TrackilizerThat's the prob.01:53
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rancoruswhy does it seem that the update to Breezy will never end by doing it apt-get01:53
kbrookssynaptic01:53
thoreauputicTrackilizer:  apt-cdrom add01:53
cjhcjhcjhI am missing various packages...I have done apt-get build-essential, but worry I am missing stuff...what else? (man is still missing, which doesn&t help my loads-of-questions-floods)01:53
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kbrooksrancorus: internet is slow01:53
thoreauputicTrackilizer: actually sudo apt-cdrom add01:53
nassorancorus: the servers are probable overloaded rights now :)01:53
aravi_Hmm, can't get the ATI drivers to work.01:53
Renskirancorus: what kind of internet connection are you using?01:54
aravi_fglxinfo shows it as using Mesa Indirect, and outputs the following error01:54
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TrackilizerOkie, I'll try that now.. be back in a bit to let you guys know if it worked or not.01:54
rancoruskbrooks: I know but everytime i reach the end and i run sudo apt-get upgrade it finds more01:54
aravi_libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed01:54
kbrooksrancorus: dist-upgrade01:54
rancorusRenski: sympatico high-speed (pppoe)01:54
thoreauputicTrackilizer: you can only expect the CD rom to update stuff it has on board01:54
daanhow do i install my ati card on breezy?01:54
bigfoot1i just reinstalled opera, but it's not showing up on my main menu01:54
rancoruskbrooks: i did that to01:54
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rancoruskbrooks: when do you know you reached the end01:55
bigfoot1opera showed up on my main menu/internet in hoary, but not in breezy01:55
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gfxstylerhi01:55
Ky0tIkSonderblade: tell everyone about your experience upgrading to breezy... lol    the poor guy had 233 broken deps, and didnt know it and had changed his sources to breezy,  then he tried apt-get update and dist-upgrade got almost a majority completed then it failed on him..    leaving his system have 5.04 half 5.10....  i think we might, just might have it going ok now though, after a lot of digging and fixing lol01:55
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kbrooksrancorus: i have no clue01:55
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rancoruskbrooks: ok thank you01:56
thoreauputicbigfoot1: non-compliant path in the opera code somewhere, probably01:56
shamhey01:56
gfxstylerwill the new ati fglrx drivers get into the breezy repositories? 8.18.601:56
bigfoot1thoreauputic, do you know how to add the icon/shortcut?01:56
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avalentelocales should be one of the first packages to be reconfigured on update... because of the perl errors.. :S has anyone got these perl errors about LOCALE?01:56
cjhcjhcjhWhere can I see the packages that the installation should normally install? (bcoz it didnt)01:56
shami was just wondering how i can stop evolution-data-server starting up at startup?01:56
thoreauputicbigfoot1: use the smeg manu editor01:56
indypendehi all01:56
TrackilizerSo after "sudo apt-cdrom add", what next?01:56
thoreauputic*menu01:56
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indypendewhat's the soution for the "restricted format" package repository?01:57
thoreauputicbigfoot1: the icon is probably in /usr/share/ somewhere01:57
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, do you know how i add use  an image file as an icon for those packages which don't come with any icons?01:57
thoreauputicTrackilizer:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:58
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TrackilizerOkie01:58
amartineausalut01:58
doogluscjhcjhcjh: when I tried installing realplayer, it wanted me to download version 8.  the website has version 10GOLD or something.  what did you do about that?01:58
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if you make your own icon you just tell the menu editor where it is01:58
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amartineauhi01:58
bigfoot1thoreauputic, oh cool. my icons can be of any size?01:58
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amartineaui m new01:59
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FliesLikeABrickare there mirrors for apt repositories like us.archive.ubuntu.com and whatnot?01:59
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: well, I guess they come out the standard size :)01:59
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, when I tried to play the radio, I was directed to v10...I downloaded it (a .BIN), chmod"d it, ran it as root, and it worked01:59
salutis1hello, i am problem with gaim. how i unmaximize gaim from gnome panel?01:59
bigfoot1i see, menu-editor resizes the image file.01:59
indypendewhat's the soution for the "restricted format" package repository?01:59
doogluscjhcjhcjh: ooh, so it's outside of the dpkg system...02:00
AraviHmm, can't get the ATI drivers to work.02:00
Aravifglxinfo shows it as using Mesa Indirect, and outputs the following error02:00
thoreauputicbigfoot1: probably the system resizes it, not smeg02:00
AravilibGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed02:00
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FliesLikeABrick!tell Aravi about ATI02:00
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cjhcjhcjhdooglus, I guess so...I wasn"t sure how to install it so just did it myself02:00
TrackilizerCrap! It's still using the net to update, oh well... guess I'll just have to use that now.02:00
amartineaui have install new ubuntu02:00
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, they did have an rpm if you know how to deal with those...I just ran the bin and it did its thing02:00
salutis1amartineau, congratulations ..)02:01
amartineauit's beautifull02:01
thoreauputicTrackilizer: it isn't magic you know - it can only use the CD for packages that are on the CD02:01
thoreauputic:)02:01
doogluscjhcjhcjh: that's what I'm worried about.  real.com's thing has a history of being nasty02:01
salutis1i am problem with gaim. how i unmaximize gaim from gnome panel?02:01
AraviFliesLikeABrick, if you're talking about this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI02:01
amartineauBut i can't connect with synaptic now02:01
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TrackilizerYeah! noticed, just thought all needed packages would be on the CD.02:01
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cjhcjhcjhdooglus, I got it at http://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer.....and yes, I agree, I have had probs in the past...but its working ATM, is all02:01
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AraviI've followed those steps, yet it still doesn't work. It also doesn't document my error.02:02
AraviBTW: The !tell didn't seem to work.02:02
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: i know on windows it hooks into places to make sure it gets run automatically - and if you remove those hooks it adds them again the next time you play a movie...  nasty behaviour02:02
amartineaumay be there too lot of people02:02
TrackilizerI hope the update is worth it...02:02
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thoreauputic!ati02:02
ubotufrom memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1002:02
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mgedminfirefox won't start for me, even when I move the profile directory away02:02
bigfoot1is there an equivalent to MAC widgets on ubuntu? I want to have clocks of different cities on my desktop.02:02
mgedminhowever it does start on a remote X server if I use ssh X forwarding02:03
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, yep, I know...it is a pain, but also hard to do without it02:03
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mahanguwoo my new desktop looks awesome02:03
doogluscjhcjhcjh: apparently it's possible to play realmedia stuff without it - but I can't get it to work.02:03
mgedminso I blame my X server, but have got no idea how to debug this02:03
salutis1i am problem with gaim. how i unmaximize gaim from gnome panel?02:03
TrackilizerYour words are worthless without a screenshot :P02:03
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, I have had the same experiences.02:03
thoreauputicsalutis1: please stop repeating02:03
jaspamartineau: yes I think that's the reason, the servers are really slow.02:03
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thoreauputic!repeat02:04
ubotuit has been said that repeat is Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer02:04
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: I'm going to try taking their .rpm file apart any see if it contains the missing dlls...  it probably won't, but it's worth a try in the absense of any other ideas.02:04
salutis1thoreauputic,02:04
salutis1thoreauputic, ok02:04
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thoreauputic:)02:04
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cjhcjhcjhdooglus, would it help if I pastebin a list of the installed version?02:04
blackfeethi, since i've updated to breezy a view fonts are missing, for example gnuCash doesn't work because it needs helvetica. I've installed all possible font-packages02:05
doogluscjhcjhcjh: yes, quite possibly02:05
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: you can get a list somehow?  it's not a package, is it?02:05
FliesLikeABrickamartineau, jasp see the topic02:05
Ky0tIksalutis1: what do you mean unmaximize from gnome panel?02:05
thoreauputicsalutis1: your question is unclear - try rephrasing it02:05
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, it installed into a subdir called RealPlayer02:05
FliesLikeABrickblackfeet,  did you do what it said about fonts at http://tinyurl.com/dkllj ?02:06
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Ky0tIkcjhcjhcjh: what are you trying to install?02:06
amartineauok02:06
Ky0tIkhelix / real?02:06
thoreauputiccjhcjhcjh: did you run it with sudo, and accept the defaults?02:06
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salutis1i have gaim application minimized in gnome panel. is here keyboard shortcut for give my buddy-list window?02:07
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blackfeetFliesLikeABrick, no, i'll look02:07
indypendewhat's the soution for the "restricted format" package repository?02:07
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eruindoes anyone know a quick and easy way to use gstreamer to convert .m4a files to mp3?02:07
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Ky0tIksalutis1: im having a difficult time understanding you.... i think you mean gnome is a tray icon, and you want a keyboard shortcut to open your buddy list?? am i correct?02:08
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seekerrhello02:09
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dooglusKy0tIk: gaim, not gnome, but otherwise yes, that's what he said02:09
cjhcjhcjhthoreauputic, yes, defaults02:10
thoreauputiccjhcjhcjh: did you accept to make system wide links ?02:10
cjhcjhcjhKy0tIk, realplayer, and I did install it; others want to know details02:10
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cjhcjhcjhthoreauputic, yep, and there are now links all over the shop02:10
Ky0tIkyea i meant gaim dooglus02:10
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Ky0tIklack of sleep here02:10
gurL14asl everyone02:11
Ky0tIkcjhcjhcjh: i had real player installed.. but it was worthless..02:11
thoreauputiccjhcjhcjh: sorry, what problem are you having with it? It won't run?02:11
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, just looked and cant find much of use to you...the subdir just has some pngs, some config files and the one executable02:11
dooglusit's a good question isn't it.  can you make a new global keyboard shortcut to do something like open the gaim buddy list?02:11
cjhcjhcjhthoreauputic, no problem, is working; was giving info to dooglus02:11
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: and stuff like codecs/raac.so too?02:11
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thoreauputiccjhcjhcjh: oh - sorry - I missed that :)02:11
Ky0tIkmozplugger, mplayer, mpg321, xine/vlc xmms  thats my choices for everything heh02:12
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, cant see any of that, might be elsewhere but remember Im a n00b02:12
bigfoot1bomb alert: I have a file called core in my home directory, and its icon is that of a bomb. What should i do with it?02:12
dooglusKy0tIk: which of those plays real stuff?02:12
Aravikernel-headers-2.6.11-9 requires kernel-kbuild-2.6.3 which is not available.02:12
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cjhcjhcjhthoreauputic, no worries; Im sure I will hit another problem for you within the next half hour02:12
AraviAny idea where I should go to get them?02:12
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doogluscjhcjhcjh: you can use "find" to find files.  do "find <dir> -name raac.so"02:12
Ky0tIkim not "real" sure02:12
thoreauputiccjhcjhcjh: hahah :D02:13
doogluswhere <dir> is the place you installed to02:13
Ky0tIkbut i know something besides real player /helix does02:13
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Artemis3bigfoot1: delete it, each time a program crash it can make a debug file called core dump02:13
Aravibigfoot1, it's a coredump from a program that crashed.02:13
dooglusI tried helix.  it told me it didn't support real stuff, and that I should download realplayer from real.com02:13
thoreauputicAravi: erm - why 2.6.11 ?02:13
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fernandohi all02:13
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fernandoW: GPG error: http://www.opensourcemirrors.org breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv02:13
bigfoot1Artemis3, Aravi oh, phew.02:14
Ky0tIkdooglus: helix is a real clone02:14
fernandothree errors02:14
NgKy0tIk: it doesn't have the real codec though02:14
Artemis3i like disabling core dumps...02:14
fernandobreezy, breezy-updates and breezy-security02:14
bigfoot1if i add multiple mirrors to my sources list, will my ubuntu be smart enough to download from the fastest one?02:14
Ky0tIksomething in the repos has a code that works with .ra and .rpm02:14
AraviI'm trying to get the kernel headers so I can build the ATi drivers manually.02:14
Ky0tIkcodec*02:14
dooglushow do you enable coredumps?  I've not seen a core for months.02:14
reikihmmm... after the update I appear to have openoffice.org AND openoffice.org202:15
Aravisince I can't seem to get the packaged ones to work.02:15
cjhcjhcjhbigfoot1, no - will try the first one first...even if 2nd is a local file02:15
dooglusAravi: get "linux-kernel-headersW02:15
Ngdooglus: with ulimit02:15
dooglusAravi: get "linux-kernel-headers"02:15
Artemis3you see em only if your programs crash02:15
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bigfoot1cjhcjhcjh, so order is very important.02:15
Artemis3which should not be often...02:15
dooglusArtemis3: oh, my programs crash all the time.  I see "segmentation fault", but no coredump02:15
Ngreiki: you can remove openoffice with synaptic02:15
bigfoot1Artemis3, how do you disable core dumps? And is there any reason NOT to disable?02:15
dooglusbigfoot1: core files are useful for debugging02:16
cjhcjhcjhbigfoot1, yep, local copy of cd first, then ftp or http02:16
Artemis3to help developers resolve the bugs02:16
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Artemis3they might want to see the dump02:16
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dooglusit's a copy of memory as it was when the program crashed02:16
bigfoot1Artemis3, who do? Developers/geeks? I'm no geek, so i guess i don't need to see these core dumps, right?02:16
cjhcjhcjhbigfoot1, that way if there is a newer version on the web it will fetch it; if not it will get it from your local copy02:16
bigfoot1cjhcjhcjh, so i should but web mirror first, and then local hard drive?02:17
AraviAlready installed :\02:17
cjhcjhcjhdooglus, there is no raac anywhere on my system02:17
AraviYet I can't build the drivers myself02:17
cjhcjhcjhbigfoot1, no...local first, then web02:17
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if you get a core dump and you aren't submitting a bug, just delete the file02:18
doogluscjhcjhcjh: oh, ok.  it's in the rpm version...02:18
ianAnybody have experience with a Windows/Netboot installation for a Win98 lappy?02:18
dooglusso how do you enable core dumps?02:18
dooglusI don't think I ever deliberately disabled them02:18
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thoreauputician: erm - that's way offtopic02:18
bigfoot1thoreauputic, and we were just talking about how i can do my part to contribute to the OSS world. I'd feel guilty if i disable core dumps. should i?02:18
cjhcjhcjhian I have just installed on a 98 laptop, but I used loadlin rather than netboot02:18
thoreauputicbigfoot1: heh - up to you :)02:19
thoreauputicbigfoot1: if you submit a bug and you have a core file, the devs might be interested in it02:19
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, okay, is there a way to change the folder where core dumps go?02:20
doogluselmo crashes whenever I run it, but makes no core:02:20
dooglus$ elmo => Segmentation fault  $ ls core => ls: core: No such file or directory02:20
cjhcjhcjhian, why do you want to use netboot to install?02:20
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: what for? They land in $HOME by default I think02:20
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, i don't want to make my home directory messed up. that's all.02:20
dooglusbigfoot1: it's one file...02:21
thoreauputicbigfoot1: you won't - core dumps don't happen much you know :)02:21
Artemis3"By using the ulimit command in bash, the limit command in tcsh, or the02:21
ianI dont have a CD-ROM or floppy for my lappy...02:21
thoreauputicIn all the time I've used ubuntu I think I've seen 3 core dumps :)02:21
Artemis3rlimit command in ksh."02:21
ianI tried using loadlin...02:22
ianbut was getting an error...02:22
ianKernel Panick - unable to mount root fs...02:22
apokryphos!tell ian about install02:22
cjhcjhcjhian what error? I had to fight with it but I got it to work in the end02:22
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cjhcjhcjhian yep, I had that. hold on...checking notes02:22
ianthanks.02:22
FlorobI just noticed I have no sysfs under breezy, is this normal?02:23
bigfoot1 Artemis3 how do i disable core dumps?02:23
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Artemis3i just gave an answer02:23
thoreauputicbigfoot1: it's really pretty pointless ...02:24
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jfarrellhey all i need some quick help02:24
jfarrelltrying to install kde on my ubuntu system, but i get this02:24
jfarrellnot sure what to make of it02:24
jfarrell  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: dbus-qt-1 but it is not going to be installed02:24
jfarrell                   Depends: k3b but it is not going to be installed02:24
jfarrell                   Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed02:24
jfarrell                   Depends: kdepim but it is not going to be installed02:24
jfarrell                   Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed02:24
jfarrell                   Depends: kynaptic but it is not going to be installed02:24
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jfarrell                   Depends: ubuntu-quickguide but it is not going to be installed02:24
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thoreauputicidiot02:24
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cjhcjhcjhian you need to extract the linux (kernel) and the initrd.gz from the install cd, and have them in the same subdir as loadlin, then do "loadlin linux /initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/ram rw"02:25
dooglusFlorob: no, it's not normal I don't think.  I see:02:25
dooglus"sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)" and "none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)"02:25
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chxhi. between Breezy Pre and Release Beep Media Player skin has changed, how could I get back the old?02:25
ianok...02:25
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ianwhat about ramdisk_size parameters?02:25
apokryphosjfarrell: it's common courtesey to not flood the channel; use a pastebin service.02:25
Artemis3"Install kde on my ubuntu..." how about installing kubuntu?02:25
ianvga?02:25
apokryphosArtemis3: kubuntu = kde+ubuntu02:25
iannot required?02:25
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cjhcjhcjhian, ?02:26
Florobdooglus: This is a fresh install, hmm, well I guess I'll add it to my fstab and file a bug report02:26
Artemis3doesn't kubuntu remove gnome?02:26
ianyes cjhcjhcjh...?02:26
ianIm here.02:26
dooglusFlorob: it's not in my fstab...02:26
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mweArtemis3: it just doesn't install it by default02:26
apokryphosArtemis3: nope; the kubuntu ISO only has ubuntu-base and kde, though you can perfectly run kde and gnome02:26
apokryphos!tell Artemis3 about kubuntu02:27
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jfarrellapologies to the channel02:27
jfarrelli meant to post this02:27
jfarrellhttp://pastebin.com/39336502:27
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typoanyone know how I can compile a kernel that's just like 2.6.12-9-686?02:27
ompaulapokryphos, it does not have  kubuntu-desktop02:27
Artemis3apokryphos, that note needs updating (it mentions hoary)02:27
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cjhcjhcjhian, you dont need to bother with the ramdisk stuff, it "just workd" ;-)02:28
cjhcjhcjhs/kd/ks/02:28
ianok cool....02:28
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apokryphosompaul: what doesn't?02:28
apokryphosArtemis3: go for it :)02:28
ianwill give it a try now. Thanks!02:28
cjhcjhcjhian hang on02:28
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ompaulapokryphos, sorry I thought that kubuntu cd had :  kubuntu-desktop or am I reading you wrong02:28
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apokryphosompaul: it does have it02:29
Florobdooglus: Oh I guess I found a reason why it's not mounted than(i just did "umount -a; mount -a", but why is it mounted explicitly and not with mount -a on bootup?02:29
cjhcjhcjhian if you do the above it will work, but will install everything from the web, not from your local iso...if that is ok - fast net - then go for it.02:29
BiSK-8whats the package that i have 2 install to use the command make or make install?02:29
ompaulapokryphos, thats okay I was reading you wrong :)02:29
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bigfoot1Seveas, since you said your repos are broken, i should remove them from my sources list, right?02:29
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NgBiSK-8: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:29
iangot a fast network connection...02:29
cjhcjhcjhian, it is possible to mount the iso image and install the rest from that if you dont have hours to kill whi02:29
Seveasbigfoot1, yes02:29
ianBUT02:29
cjhcjhcjhian, while it downloads02:29
ianlappy is using PCMCIA network card...02:30
reikiis there an app that lets us configure services? I mean... what if I don't NEED RAID services running...or bluetooth... but I want an ftp service running... things like that02:30
ianwill that be a problem?02:30
salutis1Ky0tIk, yes02:30
BiSK-8and another prob, how can i disinstall the calculator?02:30
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yonildid anyone manage to install handbrake on ubuntu ? i just can't !02:30
cjhcjhcjhian, it works fine downloading the whole thing from the net, but will take a while depending on your connection02:30
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ianok...02:30
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katzorreiki, its called bum02:31
iangot 30MB broadband so not too long hopefully!02:31
katzorreiki, should be in the repos02:31
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cjhcjhcjhian and save a lot of hassle by freeing up partition space before you start (partition magic or similar)02:31
reikikatzor, thanks... hmmm... I though I had installed that....02:31
ianhmm02:31
ianI only have 1 partition...02:31
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bigfoot1Seveas, i removed your repo from sources.list, then ran apt-get update, but I get the ff error about signatures: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/307702:32
_TemujinHow do you list all the files installed by a package?02:32
cjhcjhcjhian do you plan to wipe 98 or do you want both?02:32
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ianwipe 9802:32
reikikatzor, doh!  Boot-Up Manager.... it's installed... I am old :)02:32
katzorlol02:32
BiSK-8can any1 paste me their sources.list in pvt?02:32
bozzui think i got a problem with apt-get. i can't install serpentine because of an error with python-gnome2-extra and i noticed that ubuntu-desktop is not installed (for the same python error) is there something i can do?02:32
cjhcjhcjhian ok go for it, with all the usual caveats about if it screws up you wont be able to boot etc02:32
intelikey_Temujin: apt-cache show <blah>  i think02:32
ianok thanks, really appreciate your help.02:33
cjhcjhcjhian np good luck02:33
salutis1in my gnome is a gaim tray icon, and i want a keyboard shortcut to open my buddy list02:33
ianTrying now will let you know how it goes.02:33
JDigitalHey, I only have 134MB free on root02:33
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JDigitalIs this enough temporary space to upgrade to breezy?02:33
_Temujinnope.  show only shows package details.02:33
apokryphosJDigital: no02:33
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apokryphosJDigital: do a sudo apt-get clean ..see if that frees up a lot of space.02:33
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katzormaybe if he deletes hsi old /apt/cache?02:34
intelikey_Temujin: man apt-cache02:34
JDigitalI now have 161MB.02:34
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redguy|work_Temujin: try apt-file list <package>02:34
JDigitalHehe, kinda regretting not buying that 300 gig drive now02:34
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intelikeyhmmm /me takes notes...02:34
apokryphosJDigital: it's not close to enough I'm afraid :/02:35
yonilQ: What application can i use to rip DVD's under ubuntu ? (i've heard of handbrake but i can't compile it from some reason ..)02:35
_Temujinapt-file:  command not found02:35
JDigitalHow much do you recommend?02:35
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dooglusJDigital: do you have space on a different partition that you can write to in linux?02:35
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jussi_how you can mount usb memory stick in ubuntu?02:35
dansthey friends of linux! I am searching for the parallel port device node on my notebook (/dev/parport0 and lp0 dont exist) is there anyone able to help me, please?02:36
JDigitalNo, I filled all my hard drives.02:36
Artemis3jussi_ i just plug it02:36
topylijussi_: should be mounted automatically02:36
jussi_ok02:36
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JDigitalI really need to tidy my stuff...02:36
dooglusJDigital: you could burn a CD or DVD full of some of your porn to free up some space somewhere02:36
redguy|work_Temujin: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update maybe?02:36
aftertaflol dooglus :)02:36
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JDigitalI don't know if I have enough blank DVDs to burn all of my porn02:37
Artemis3buy hd02:37
dooglusJDigital: you only need to burn one - that'll free up 4 or so gigs.02:37
dooglusthat's plenty02:37
JDigitalAha.02:37
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JDigitalMy HD setup is hilarious. I have an 80GB partitioned 4GB to Linux, half a gig swap and the rest to my stuff I never use but won't delete. The other drive is 100GB anime and 10GB windows install which doesn't work.02:38
Knorrie_what does 'configure a multiseat system' actually do at the install menu? it seems to do nothing02:38
dooglusJDigital: if you manage to make some space somewhere that's not / , you can put a symlink in /var/cache/apt/archives to somewhere on the partition with space.02:38
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dooglus('cos that's where the space gets used, mostly)02:38
intelikeyredguy|work: isn't there also a dpkg line for that ?02:38
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Artemis3that stuff can be put in a hd stored away02:38
JDigitalWhat's a tidy way of going dualboot?02:38
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redguy|workintelikey: propably, wanna dig man dpkg ?02:39
katzorKnorrie, its supposed to set ur box up if you have multiple graphic card/mouse/keyboard pairs02:39
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intelikeyna i'm on mdk redguy|work, but just figured there was.02:39
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lophi to all02:40
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Knorrie_katzor: didnt know that was possible :? more keyboards at one pc02:40
reikiJDigital: if you're going to shut down to reboot anyways... go on eBay and get a DataPort cage and carriers. (swappable hard drives)02:40
reiki:)02:40
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reikiVERY tidy02:40
redguy|workintelikey: not much digging, /me being lazy... dpkg -L <package>; but this lists only packages installed on your system02:40
JDigitalmmm.02:40
Thandurifjdigital: Resize your windows partition and then install ubuntu - thats all there is to it02:40
katzorKnorrie, thats the cool thing about linux :-) i dont know of it works properly yet02:40
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intelikeyk02:40
Artemis3and sata allows hot swapping too02:40
JDigitalI already have my Ubuntu installed though. That's the 4GB partition of the 80GB drive.02:41
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ianian02:41
JDigitalJDigital02:41
reikiJDigital, I got a cage and 2 carriers for %5.50 US... they normally (new) are like $40 for the carriers and $120 for the cage02:41
Knorrie_katzor: then because I havent got more than 1 mouse here is why it seems the menu options does do nothing02:41
redguy|workintelikey: erm, s/only packages/only files belonging to packages/02:41
rob^!dualboot02:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo02:41
Artemis3plastic?02:41
iancjhcjhcjh...?02:41
katzorKnorrie, yup02:41
jussi_is see my USB stick in lsusb, but where i can acces it02:41
wezzerhas someone managed to get beagle's search-gui "best" to run?02:41
ianyou still around buddy?02:41
rob^wezzer, yes02:42
JDigitalI hear there's a thing that lets Windows read/write to Linux filesystem; how well does that work?02:42
lopdoes anyone can name me a package to install to get ATi drivers ?02:42
rob^!ati02:42
ubotuati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1002:42
thoreauputic!ati02:42
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rob^why do people add crap to the bot?02:42
lopthanks ubotu02:43
intelikey!usb02:43
ubotuintelikey: Do they come in packets of five?02:43
Artemis3i need the bot manual02:43
apokryphosintelikey: best to investigate in /msg02:43
sedekirob^ crap?02:43
apokryphosArtemis3: /msg ubotu help02:43
rob^!factiods02:43
uboturob^: I haven't a clue02:43
rob^!factroids02:43
uboturob^: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:43
rob^grr02:43
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JDigital!factoids02:43
ubotuI guess factoids is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:43
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rApJtR!what is it?02:43
uboturApJtR: I think you lost me on that one02:43
thoreauputicArtemis3: or sudo apt-get install blootbot && man blootbot I guess :)02:44
rob^thats it02:44
jussi_!usb02:44
ubotuNot a clue, jussi_02:44
rob^but someone edited that one too02:44
rApJtR!funny02:44
uboturApJtR: Are you smoking crack?02:44
thoreauputic!botabuse02:44
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.02:44
reikistop playing with the bot02:44
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Artemis3uh oh, the bot adds anything said here? ouch02:44
apokryphosArtemis3: not anything said here; anything you specifically tell it to have02:44
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bloodnikHow do I set up my DNS servers from command line?02:45
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noodlei just installed nvidia and my refresh rate is 60Hz how do i set it higher? in "Screen Resolution" preference it's only 60Hz max??02:45
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JDigitalI had that problem too02:46
JDigitalI don't know how I fixed it02:46
lukas_trying to install realplayer and I only get: ./hxplay-1.0.6.778-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:46
noodle:(02:46
lukas_can anyone help02:46
JDigitalAre you using the official drivers from the website?02:46
Seveasbloodnik, vim /etc/resolv.conf02:46
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noodlenope02:46
nasenatmerhui boo :)02:46
JDigitalUse those then.02:46
intelikeynoodle: you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "02:46
noodlei installed nvidia-glx like on the wiki page02:46
noodleintelikey: ok..02:47
nasenatmerHello, got a short question to one of the Linux basic commands02:47
JDigitalwhat about it02:47
nasenatmerHow can I change back from root to my account in the shell?02:47
intelikeysu - <user>02:47
dooglusexit02:47
nasenatmeraaah *doh*02:47
variantintelikey: thats not quite how02:48
nasenatmertoo easy02:48
variantnasenatmer: type CTRL D02:48
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dooglusbe careful not to type two control-ds02:48
variantnasenatmer: CTRL D is the same as typing exit02:48
JDigitalnintendo-ds02:48
thoreauputicheheh :)02:48
noodleintelikey: do i want to enable kernel framebuffer?02:48
variantnasenatmer: also logout.. same thing02:48
nasenatmerah ok02:48
variantthe command "logout"02:48
intelikeynoodle: sure02:48
nasenatmeri'll try it instantly :)02:49
variantnasenatmer: do so! :P02:49
nasenatmerThx for the fast help :)02:49
thoreauputicvariant: logout only works in login shells02:49
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variantthoreauputic: oops, so id does02:49
JDigitalI wonder what's using all this space in my homedir02:49
thoreauputic:)02:49
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thoreauputicJDigital: type du -h to see02:49
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variantthoreauputic: in that case it would allow him to log out of his root shell that he used su to get into :)02:50
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nasenatmerand, 2nd question, is there any difference between, terminal, shell, bash or MidNightcommander?02:50
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Artemis3oh02:50
thoreauputicvariant: no I doubt it - althoug I haven't tried...02:50
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variantnasenatmer: midnight commander is a file manager02:50
Artemis3midnight commander is a file manager ^^'02:50
intelikeythoreauputic: JDigital use du / -h --max-depth=102:50
variantthoreauputic: a su'd login is a login shell02:50
wezzerbeagle's search tool best crashes when I try to run it02:51
wezzerany ideas?02:51
bloodnikcheers sev, that solved all my woes :D02:51
thoreauputicvariant: yep you are right :)02:51
nasenatmerah *g* ok I understand...02:51
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nasenatmerI think I mixed sthing up...02:51
thoreauputicvariant: I didn't know that worked!02:51
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thoreauputic:D02:51
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variantisint that a mIrc default slap? :o02:52
gremidhi, after upgrading from hoary to breezy, the new graphical boot progress screen does not show up; just the screen resolution changes. can anybody help?02:52
JDigitalIs there a way to sort the results of du by size?02:52
thoreauputicvariant: nope, it's mine :)02:52
intelikeynasenatmer: terminal=command line access  for a gui    shell=command interureter    midnight commander=cli file manager app.02:52
thoreauputicvariant: and I've never used mirc :P02:52
variantthoreauputic: very glad to hear!02:53
frickelCan some help me? Firefox don't shows fonts in case it has to open a java applet...02:53
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tata#mojokerto02:53
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JDigitalAhaha, 183MB of .thumbnails02:53
variantJDigital: at a rough guess i would say du -h | sort -g02:53
zyphi'm having problems installing02:54
sedekiJDigital i hope you get paid for watching all that porn.02:54
variantJDigital: at a rough guess i would say du -h | sort -n i mean02:54
tata#jombang02:54
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zyphi tried apt-get dist-upgrade02:54
zyphrunning breezy 5.0402:55
apokryphosbreezy is 5.1002:55
zukerobreezy = 5.1002:55
zyphit downloaded all the packages but won't install them02:55
zukero5.04 = hoary02:55
zyphoh ok02:55
apokryphoszyph: for the guide on installing, see /topic02:55
zyphwell i'm running the breezy test02:55
zyphi know i've looked at that guide02:55
variantJDigital: "du -h | sort -n" works very well02:55
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zyphthat's not the problem i'm having02:55
variantJDigital: you can | that too less for nice readable output02:56
JDigitalIt sorts "800MB" above "801K" though02:56
zukeroif you are allready running breezy02:56
FliesLikeABrickah, so nice that i finally have the ATI 3d drivers running on my laptop02:56
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zukerono need for dist-upgrade02:56
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foxgamerHow cool is this Xfce desktop?02:56
JDigitalI can leave off the -h but then it's not human-readable02:56
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zukerouse apt-get update02:56
zyphok well i tried to upgrade my packages02:56
nasenatmerThanks for your help, im going giving blood to the red cross! :)02:56
nasenatmerCu!02:56
zyphdid that like 10 times zukero02:56
variantJDigital: yes, you can put -H to use SI units instead too02:56
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zyphit apt-get's the packages but won't install them02:57
zukerohmm02:57
zyphso if i did slocate newpackage02:57
zyphi'd have the newpackage.deb02:57
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thoreauputiczyph: paste the errors on the pastebin - see topic02:57
intelikeyslocate uses a database  it must be updated02:57
intelikeyupdatedb02:57
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zyphslocate -u02:58
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zyphi know intelikey02:58
intelikeyk02:58
zyphupdatedb is deprecated i think02:58
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intelikeyprobably is02:59
linkrjh Where would I go to ask questions about a dependency issue I am having?02:59
linkrjhI'm at loss.02:59
bigfoot1i have oo.o 1 and oo.o2 how do i remove everything that's got to do with oo.o1 (while keeping everything needed for oo.o2)?02:59
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zyphyeah i had that prob in slack 10 with updatedb02:59
foxgamerHas anyone been having problems with Pype?02:59
zyphfound out it was slocate -u now02:59
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variantanyone know a command for coloring command output? kind of like pinfo but for generall output instead of man/info pages03:00
intelikeybigfoot1: maybe apt-get remove <blah>03:00
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TrackilizerWhy is VLC giving me errors about not found fonts.03:00
intelikeyvariant: how simple you looking for ?03:01
TrackilizerWorked fine untill 10 mins ago.03:01
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reikiI should get going. I have a wedding to do this afternoon03:01
variantintelikey: ultra03:01
zyphwhat's a pastebin?03:01
variantzyph: pastebin.ocm03:01
variantzyph: pastebin.com03:01
thoreauputic!paste03:01
ubotuI heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:01
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intelikeyecho "$(printf "\033$( <your command here> )" ;printf "\033")"03:01
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variantintelikey: hmm, nice!03:02
occylibssl0.9.7 was awaiting me this morning.03:02
occyheh03:02
occythe first new package of the Breezy era.03:02
bytefoome too :L|03:02
occy:)03:02
bytefoooh i had other new packages yesterday :/.03:02
dooglusoccy: nice way to start Breezy, eh?  with an ssl hole :)03:02
occydooglus, could have been worse to not have the bug fixed03:03
linkrjhAre there any channels dedicated to help?03:03
bytefoothis channel :|03:03
variantintelikey: echo "$(printf "\033$( df -h )" ;printf "\033")"03:03
variantbash: printf: `M': invalid format character03:03
dooglusoccy: it wasn't fixed until after the image was frozen.  it'll be in all breezy cds03:03
linkrjhHmm03:03
linkrjhThat's no good03:03
intelikeyvariant: the    part is the color control03:03
bytefoo;[03:03
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intelikeyyou can use  1;3<0-9>03:04
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occydooglus, yeah, no worries here.  That's why God created apt-get update03:04
occyerr03:04
occyand apt-get upgrade03:04
occyheh03:04
bytefoogod didnt create that03:04
variantintelikey: doesnt work mate.. i gotta go out now anyway.. i will look at it later. thanks03:04
bytefoo:O03:04
occybytefoo, sure he(she?) did03:05
occyheh03:05
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dooglusoccy: that's ok if you're online.  but what if you're not online?  you're going to be open to a man-in-the-middl - uh, just a minute :)03:05
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Carpe_LibertatemIs everyone else still getting errors when trying to add the Univers and Multiverse repositories in Breezy?03:05
occydooglus, if you aren't online... I doubt you would need to worry about a man in the middle attack.03:05
occyheh03:05
occybut anyway03:06
stimpieI installing ubuntu and it asks to use "lvm" should I use that?03:06
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occypeace03:06
aftertafstimpie:  do you have logical volumes (dynamic disks in zondope)?03:06
dooglusoccy: that was the "uh, wait a minute" bit :)03:06
stimpieaftertaf, the disk is empty03:06
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bytefoozondop? o_O03:06
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Carpe_LibertatemIs everyone else still getting errors when trying to add the Universe and Multiverse repositories in Breezy?03:06
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intelikeyah yea variant it only works for one line of text    for multi line it will take more code.03:07
Knorrie_Carpe_Libertatem: no03:07
thoreauputic!tell Carpe_Libertatem about repeat03:07
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Rev-Marcis there a good download accelerator that works in Ubuntu?03:07
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Carpe_Libertatemthoreauputic, people don't always see the question. :-P03:07
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thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: 5 minutes is a reasonable interval03:08
jussi_Ubuntu finds my usb stick, but how I can read/edit files?03:08
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utnubuhas anyone managed to install breezy with an ecs k7s5a?03:08
Carpe_LibertatemOk - I get an error when trying to update my repositories to include Universe and Multiverse. Can someone help with that?03:09
dooglusvariant: that printf command again:03:09
aftertafutnubu:  yep. my home pc has one.03:09
dooglusprintf "\033$(df -h|sed 's/%/%%/g')\033\n"03:09
sedekijussi_ does it have a fat fs?03:09
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dooglusvariant: the problem was that df outputs percent signs - so you have to double them up, or printf gets angry03:09
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: wait a few hours and try again - the servers are overloaded03:09
jussi_fat03:09
variantdooglus: ahh! thanks03:09
utnubuaftertaf: what have you done? I have hal or hotplug errors03:09
aftertafutnubu:  do you have any usb devices plugged in?03:10
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variantdooglus: that worked.. excelent thank you03:10
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aftertafutnubu:  otherwise, i didnt actually DO anything.. it Just Worked (tm)03:10
utnubuaftertaf: no, some cables of cams, but without having attached them03:11
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Rev-Marcis there a good download accelerator that works in Ubuntu?03:11
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fc9khmmmm03:12
aftertafutnubu:  weird. does it boot ok otherwise?03:12
bigfoot1is it safe to remove all the stuff listed in synaptic/status/"Not Installed (residual config)"?03:12
fc9kanyone fancy giving me  abit of advice?03:12
utnubuaftertaf: would it be possible to make screenshots of your bios defaults for comparing them with mine? which bios have you installed?03:12
foxgamerfc9k: Ask and if someone knows the answer they will :)03:12
htRev-Marc:wget, int console03:12
fc9kok03:12
fc9kwell basically i'm about to dive into the linux world03:13
utnubuaftertaf: no, no boot possible, only with hotplug disabled03:13
Rev-Marcht thanks03:13
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thirsofc9k: gl03:13
thirsoyou'll need it03:13
fc9ki've got all my stuff backed up, and i'm about to reformat everything and install xp and then breezy03:13
fc9kand i'm not sure what the best way of partitioning stuff is, given that i've got 2 200gb HDDs03:13
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fc9ki'd ideally like to be able to access all my music/videos/files etc from both OS's03:14
PukyHey people! Does anybody know does Ubuntu have support for Ericsson hm220d adsl modem? I haven't found anything on linuxquetions...03:14
thirsolinux can access fat and ntfs03:14
fc9kright03:14
thirsowindows cant access shit03:14
fc9ki've been told to create 3 linux partitions: /, swap and /home03:15
thoreauputicfc9k: good advice03:15
ChousukeLinux can access 294827+n different filesystems.03:15
htubuntu auto mount your all ntfs and fat partition at starup.03:15
fc9kand then maybe another one in fat32 for both os's03:15
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decafhelp please, I really need a working AltGr key.03:15
ChousukeWindows knows maybe three or four03:15
aftertafutnubu:  weird..... unplug the cables.   leave just mouse & keyb.03:15
fc9kok03:15
intelikeyfc9k: an fat32 partition would be good for read/write access from either03:15
JDigitalAhh. Freed up half a gig!03:15
thirsoht: it didnt mount here, is my ubuntu fooked up/?03:15
htaccess it use path /media/hdax03:15
foxgamerfc9k: For a quick look at partitioning, have a look at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/03:15
JDigitalIs 491MB enough temp space to upgrade Hoary to Breezy?03:16
fc9kcheers03:16
utnubuaftertaf: ok, I'll try it now03:16
htmy ubuntu version: 5.10, what about you?03:16
thirso5.1003:16
thirsoneway im burning breezy now03:16
ChousukeJDigital: depends.03:16
aftertafJDigital:  maybe, but empty apt cache first maybe03:16
JDigitalI did03:16
foxgamershiny and new :D03:16
PukyDoes anybody know does Ubuntu have support for Ericsson hm220d adsl modem? Please help...03:16
htthirso:me to.03:16
aftertafJDigital:  you should make some space, you CAN live without porn you know ;)03:16
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thirsoso whats the point of creating a /home partition ?03:17
JDigitalPff. Maybe YOU can...03:17
ChousukePuky: is it a USB modem?03:17
Pukya usb and a ethernet modem, you can choose03:17
JDigitalMaybe I should have installed Ubuntu to more than a 4GB partition...03:17
aftertafJDigital:  :D03:17
ChousukePuky: then it depends on your network card.03:17
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thirsoMY NETWORK CARD IS STEWPID AND WONT WORK03:17
thirsoon linux03:17
aftertafJDigital:  yep..... thou you can boot via cd and expand it03:17
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ChousukeWhat chip?03:17
Pukyrealtek rtl813903:17
JDigitalhow03:18
thirsohttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png03:18
aftertafPuky:  mine works (tm)03:18
ChousukePuky: that'll work.03:18
ThomasMWow. The realtek cards should work on any OS.03:18
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Pukyaftertaf you have that modem?03:18
bronsonJDigital: run "apt-get clean" of course.03:18
thirsofuck encore ><03:18
htthirso: What chip?03:18
aftertafJDigital:  mount root readonly, you can make it bigger.03:18
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thirsoEncore ENL832-TX-ICNT03:18
aftertafPuky:  nope, the NIC03:18
JDigitalI thought you needed PartitionMagic to increase the size of a partition without deleting the contents03:18
TFPhow can i know, if a certain process is running?03:18
aftertaflol ThomasM03:18
JDigitalI ran apt-get clean already.03:18
aftertafTFP:  PS -a | grep process03:18
htthirso:what chip about your netcard.03:19
aftertafor top03:19
TFPthx03:19
aftertaf;)03:19
bronsonJDigital: gparted will resize.03:19
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Pukyaftertaf so that modem should work, because i'd buy it but don't want to waste my money03:19
JDigitalSpiffy.03:19
thirsoht: theres a E on it so i guess its encore03:19
intelikeythirso: if for want ever reason you ever need or want to completely redo your system all the stuff in /home can be safe there if it is a partition.   if it is just a subdir it is scraped with the rest of the system.   also if you have a major fs error that affects /home it wont hit the system....03:19
bronsonYou'll probably have to boot from a live CD because obviously it won't resize the boot partition.03:19
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TFPaftertaf: thx03:19
aftertafTFP:  no pbs ;:)03:19
thirsoan E*03:20
thirsohttp://www.encore-usa.com/Drivers/ENL832-TX-ICNT_Drivers.zip03:20
htthirso:I am looking for the device table of 5.1003:20
thirsothats the driver im trying to compile03:20
thirsoubuntu didnt detect it at all03:20
ChousukePuky: if it has a network socket, it will not require any drivers.03:21
Pukynetwork socket?03:21
Pukyethernet socket?03:21
Chousukeyes. :P03:21
ChousukeUSB modems need drivers.03:21
Pukysorry :(03:21
Pukythat's great03:21
Chousukebut ones with RJ45 don't. :)03:21
Pukyrj45? (i really am a n00b :()03:21
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htah, mail to the ubuntu.com :D03:21
Chousukeethernet03:21
JDigitalWhat happens if my Linux is on one drive but my /home/ is on another?03:21
Pukyoh...03:21
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FliesLikeABrickJDigital,  what do you mean "what happens?"03:22
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ChousukePuky: it should work :)03:22
thirsoi need my ethernet card to work on linux or i cant access internet which makes linux useless for me :(03:22
JDigitaloh03:22
FliesLikeABrickPuky,  rj45 = network cable03:22
JDigitalI forgot to finish my sentence, heh03:22
Chousukethirso: which chip?03:22
Pukychousuke: Thanks!03:22
JDigitalWhat happens if my Linux is on one drive but my /home/ is on another, and my /home/ drive dies?03:22
thirsoChousuke: Encore03:22
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TrackilizerIs it only me, or is updating really slow at the moment, I'm getting 25KB/s on a 3Mbit connection.03:22
FliesLikeABrickthirso,  what kind of network card?03:22
PukyJDigital03:22
FliesLikeABrickTrackilizer,  look at the topic03:22
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ProtequeJDigital: you loose your homedirs03:22
TrackilizerI see.03:22
Chousukethirso: If you answered me, I missed it.03:23
JDigitalBut does Ubuntu rely on those for anything03:23
PukyJdigital: nothing should happen it's like  a C: and E: drive on win, you have the system on one polace and documents on other03:23
TrackilizerI just didn't think it would be this slow.03:23
ProtequeJDigital: nope03:23
thirsoChousuke: Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT , Ubuntu doesnt detect it.I get this error http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png when i try to compile this driver http://www.encore-usa.com/Drivers/ENL832-TX-ICNT_Drivers.zip03:23
Chousukeor is that Encore the chip? :P03:23
Chousukeduh03:23
Chousukeok.03:23
Chousuke:D03:23
JDigitalI mean all the settings for like the software in ~/.wine and ~/.evolution and so on03:23
PukyJdigital: so?03:23
FliesLikeABrickJDigital,  as long as you have those /home files on that drive mounted at /home, it will act just as if it was a normal folder in / named home03:24
thirsoive posted it in 3 forums no anwers heh03:24
Chousukethirso: you need linux-headers or linux-source03:24
JDigitalWhat if /home/ is FAT32?03:24
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Chousukethirso: also, see if the drivers have a ./configure script.03:24
JDigitalDoes this cause any problems, other than file transfers complaining that they can't set the date?03:24
PukyJdigital: i think you can't do that03:24
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FliesLikeABrickJDigital,  i believe that FAT32 is read/write on linux, but i could be wrong03:24
JDigitalFAT32 is03:24
thoreauputicJDigital: fat 32 doesn't know about unix permissions03:24
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FliesLikeABrickif it is read/write, then it would work normally, just as if it was ext303:24
FliesLikeABrickright, forgot about that thoreauputic03:24
thoreauputicJDigital: using fat 32 as home makes no sense03:25
ProtequeJDigital: no problem.03:25
thirsoChousuke: the drivers files are Makefile,sundance.main.c and a bunch of .h03:25
Protequethoreauputic: if he shares it with windows?03:25
JDigitalProteque is correct03:25
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Protequebut better to install a ext-driver for windows03:25
Chousukethirso: anyway, you need header files for your kernel.03:25
fc9kwith 2 200gb discs, would it be a good idea to keep one windows only and the other linux?03:25
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JDigitalI want to have Windows able to access my music/porn/etc03:25
thoreauputicProteque: you make a separate partition for that03:25
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thirsoChousuke: i did apt-get03:25
JDigitalCurrently I just have my stuff symlinked03:25
thirsoChousuke: i got it03:26
thoreauputicJDigital: make a separate p0rn partition :)03:26
thirsostill get the same error :/03:26
MrManuwhat is the matter about breezy-backports and extras?03:26
Chousukethirso: you may need to edit the Makefile so it'll point to the right dir.03:26
Chousukethirso: also, do you have linux-source03:26
Chousuke?03:26
JDigitalso that /home/ is in the same partition as /, but directories like "music" are symlinked to /mnt/myfat32harddrive/music/03:26
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thirsoChousuke: hm i think i didnt apt-get it. ill try that03:26
thirsosucks to have to reboot to test it :/03:26
Chousukenot really.03:27
thirsoyeah im on windows :/03:27
fc9khow big should i make /home and what is it used for?  anyone? :D03:27
Chousukeah, duh.03:27
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fc9k< newb03:27
TrackilizerHave you guys heard the latest version of the Linux show on the podcast network, the dude bashes Ubnutu and says i gives you as little choice as WinXP does.03:27
JDigitalbut it tends to happen that / drive gets filled with my homedir's hidden folders like like .evolution and .thumbnails03:27
thirsoonly have dsl and i need the ethernet for it03:27
Chousukefc9k: it will contain all your personal files03:27
Trackilizerit*03:27
fc9kright03:27
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JDigitalWhat's he smoking? Ubuntu gives you far more choice. It's just too technical for the average user and doesn't come with anything near a decent newbies' manual.03:28
MrManuhuh? backports?03:28
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thirsoChousuke: is it linux-source-2.6.12-9 or just linux-source?03:28
fc9kChousuke: so if i make /home say 40gb, then create a 160gb partition in fat32 for all my vids and music, and access that from both OSs, would that be ok?03:28
JDigitaland software support in many important areas isn't as good, but that goes without saying for LInux03:28
Chousukethirso: the former.03:28
TrackilizerWell, that's what he says, he was using Kanotix and changes to Ubuntu, he said it was the worst thing he ever did.03:28
thirsoaight03:28
JDigitalWhat's Kanotix03:28
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MrManufc9k and chousukethere is also an ext2/3 driver for winxp available03:29
Chousukefc9k: yes. but do you need 40Gb in home then if all your big files are going to that FAT32 partition?03:29
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Trackilizerfc9K, that's ok, that's what i do.03:29
ChousukeMrManu: yes.03:29
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JDigitalHow well does the ext driver for Windows work?03:29
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MrManuno permissoins, but read and write support as far as i know03:29
cefTrackilizer: people have opinions. ubuntu won't suit anyone. probably runs gentoo anyway *grin*03:29
JDigitaland is it compatible with 2k03:29
thoreauputicTrackilizer: if sommeone thinks Ubuntu restricts them, they don't know enough - Ubuntu is just as configurable as Debian03:29
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cefanyone = everyone even03:30
cefblah03:30
_Temujinvpnc rocks!03:30
thoreauputicor Kanotix for that matter03:30
karolysashow to uninstall default language??03:30
_Temujin!tell me about vpnc03:30
karolysasi cant refuse lithuanian letters...03:30
JDigitalWow, a person from Lithuania. Never seen one of those on the internet.03:30
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fc9kwewt03:30
MrManuwell configurable or not, why do the commented backports un breezy not work, there is no breezy-backports -.-03:30
fc9kso lets say 20gb for home03:30
karolysasisthat irc bot?03:31
karolysaslithuanian03:31
cefMrManu: cos as yet, there is nothing that isn't in dapper that isn't in breezy?03:31
thoreauputicMrManu: what is there to backport? breezy is only  a day old !03:31
karolysashe..03:31
JDigitalhehe03:31
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MrManuno sid, i meant backports like firefox 1.5 beta 203:31
JDigitalSo how well does the ext2/3 driver work in Win2k? Anyone know?03:32
thoreauputicMrManu: you can get that from mozilla.org if you're desperately impatient03:32
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JDigitalIf you can't compile your own software you don't deserve Firefox betas :)03:32
MrManuhmmm, i think i will use the hoary backports ^^03:32
karolysasso?? can anybody tell me how to fefuse my primary language coz i need english.. ?03:32
bruderJDigital, great for read-only use03:32
thoreauputicMrManu: give the developers a break, for haeven's sake03:32
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utnubuaftertaf: weird, I took out the tekram scsi controller and now it works out of the box. strange, tekram never made me problems03:33
bruderJDigital, if you are brave you can turn on the read-write mode.03:33
MrManujdigital why compile sth whar is already available as package? :)03:33
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JDigitalYou have to compile your own, otherwise you aren't hardcore03:33
thoreauputicMrManu: stop whinging, please03:33
cefMrManu: is that in the hoary backports? you also realise that the backports stuff is done PURELY by the community, and not paid developers?03:33
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bruderbleh. I've used to compile a lot of stuff, when I was a kid.03:34
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thoreauputicOK all flames about the backports issue in #ubuntu-offtopic please03:34
bruder:p03:34
cefbruder: heh03:34
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MrManuof course, just wondered why the backports deb http:..... didnt work ^^03:34
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cefbruder: does that mean if you want to feel like a kid again, you'll start running gentoo? *grin*03:35
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brudercef, of course :p03:35
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BooZeehello03:35
BooZeejust upgraded to breezer03:35
BooZeehave some problems with the networking03:36
ciusdid you do a dist-upgrade BooZee or a fresh install?03:36
BooZeefresh03:36
ciusdamn, I did a dist-upgrade last night from hoary to breezy and now I can't get some stuff from apt...not sure if they're related.03:37
ianNeed some help with loadlin - any takers?03:37
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iantrying to upgrade a lappy with no bootable devices.03:37
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BooZeemy networke is fucked up..03:38
JDigitalcheck your network cable03:38
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bronsoncius: what can't you get?03:39
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fc9kcan i run my partitions past someone quickly to see if theyre ok?03:39
spstarr_workCongratulations on Breezy!03:39
bronsonYeah, Breezy is fantastic.03:39
JDigitalI should probably sort out my stuff03:39
spstarr_workwhens development begin on the next release? :)03:39
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bronsonI was real worried halfway through the mod-x upgrade.  :)03:39
cjhcjhcjhian how did it go?03:40
JDigital10GB for a Windows partition and 4GB for Linux isn't so good03:40
thoreauputicspstarr_work: when the developers sober up ;P03:40
spstarr_workhahaha03:40
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iancjhcjhcjh - not good my friend....03:40
ciusbronson, I'm trying to get amule, but its tells me that some stuff "is not to be isntalled"03:40
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ianstill getting the same error...03:40
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echelon-hhi03:40
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cjhcjhcjhian Mr Kernel Panic is in the house?03:40
echelon-him running server 5.04, how can i upgrade to 5.10?03:41
bronsoncius: usually if you try installing that stuff directly it'll give you more detail why it can't be installed.03:41
KArhutonHow soon will there be a installation DVD available fro Breezy? All I could find was some rc tagged ones03:41
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bronsonProbably broken dependencies from Debian packages.03:41
KArhutonechelon-h: Look at topic03:41
bronsonUsually easily resolved.03:41
bronson(using apt-cache search)03:41
iancjhcjhcjh - he is, although the error is slightly differnet...03:41
ciusbronoson, I'll try that, I appreciate the help03:41
redguy|work!tell echelon-h about upgrade03:41
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echelon-him using server = console only03:41
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echelon-his there a command to upgrade?03:41
fc9kDISK1: 15gb windows, 80gb windows apps etc, 25gb home, 15gb /, 0.5gb swap.  DISK2: 0.5gb swap, 199.5gb fat32 for music/films for both OSs03:41
fc9kdoes that look ok ^^^^?03:42
cjhcjhcjhian error?03:42
thoreauputic!tell echelon-h about upgrade2breezy03:42
dooglusvariant: I made some aliases to make it easier to use colors:03:42
maswanechelon-h: the upgrade guide in the topic has a section for apt-get03:42
dooglushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/307903:42
iancjhcjhcjh - running command again to get exact errror03:42
fc9kanyone?03:42
_TemujinIs there still a need for a seperate /boot partition in the first Gig of the boot disk?03:42
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echelon-hmaswan: and can you enter web sites from console? answer is:03:42
BooZeeanybody here has an XJ700T MAG screen?03:42
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KArhutonfc9k: 199GB is too much for FAT3203:42
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cjhcjhcjhian you need to boot to DOS to run the loadlin - it doesnt work in a shell03:42
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fc9kawww03:43
_Temujinyes03:43
_Temujinwget03:43
fc9kKArhuton: whats the biggest?03:43
_Temujinlynx03:43
redguy|workechelon-h: the answer is lynx03:43
KArhutonfc9k: You can use EXT3 for it, and "ext2fsd" driver in Windows for read-only access03:43
maswanechelon-h: lynx or links or w3m springs to mind as text-based web browsers03:43
fc9knah i need to write from both ideally03:43
fc9kits gonna have all my music and as i'm a linux newb i'll probably do all my tag updating in windows to start with03:44
jaspfc9k: I have 250gig fat32 partition, no problem.03:44
spstarr_workhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ yeah i dont see Dapper yet on there ;-)03:44
TFPhow can i kill all mono processes at a time?03:44
fc9k:S03:44
_Temujinech> wget is great for grabbing specific files from web03:44
KArhutonjasp, what does XP say on that?03:44
fc9kconflicting info here then03:44
iancjhcjhcjh yup I restarted in DOS03:44
fc9kwhats the biggest fat32 xp will deal with?03:44
JDigitalKArhuton: Can't it do read-write?03:44
KArhutonjasp, there's supposed to be a 32GB limit on XP with it03:44
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xeroxHi.03:44
Ngfc9k: only about 32bg03:44
Ngb<>g03:44
fc9koh what03:44
xeroxAre there mirrors of breezy images?03:44
fc9kthats retarted03:44
Ngno03:44
jaspworks fine, every modern large external drive, is still FAT32 formatted03:44
Ngit's quite sane really03:44
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fc9kwell is there any way linux can write to ntfs?03:44
iancjhcjhcjh - unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)03:45
jaspthat's how you buy them in the store.03:45
fc9kah thats true, i have a 250gb fat32 external drive here next to me03:45
KArhutonfc9k: MS enforced 32GB limit on FAT32 to urge people to upgrade to NTFS03:45
fc9kwhat is with that then03:45
Ngjasp: indeed, but xp won't format than 32gb03:45
KArhutonAtleast used to03:45
spstarr_work'As usual, the "dapper" repository will be opened after the release of03:45
spstarr_workBreezy'03:45
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cjhcjhcjhian pls paste your loadlin line03:45
iancjhcjhcjh - the first error I was getting was exactly the same, just a different numeric value at the end (1,8)03:45
jaspfc9k: I'm not sure if you need to dwap drives though,03:45
ptloheya all. i'd like to configure vino to have access to my desktop remotely. but, currently i am remotely connected to my box (via ssh). can i change vino properties this way, or do i have to log in on console? i'm using breezy, if that helps03:45
spstarr_workthe partying is over03:45
FliesLikeABrickhow long can we expect before stuff starts showing up in breezy backports?03:45
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spstarr_work:)03:45
redguy|workfc9k: try googling for captive to get good ntfs support in linux03:45
fc9kok03:46
fc9kwell for now then, i'll keep all my media on my USB drive03:46
KArhutonrc9k, I suggest you go with FAT32 then03:46
fc9kand leave the 200gb SATA drive blank until I work out how big i can get it03:46
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iancjhcjhcjh Kernek panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)03:46
fc9kKArhuton: so can i have a 199gb fat32 one then?  or not?03:46
KArhutonfc9k: Apparently XP just refuses to format a > 32 GB partition, but doesn't mind using one03:47
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fc9koh right03:47
fc9khow ghey03:47
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fc9koh well, thats fine by me :)03:47
cefKArhuton: correct03:47
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cjhcjhcjhian pls paste your loadlin line03:48
fc9kany last minute advice for me then before i wipe everything?03:48
KArhutonfc9k, how much ram do you have?03:48
fc9k1gb03:48
TvMhow can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/392652 . the drive is empty...03:48
KArhutonfc9k, do you do some audio / video editing?03:48
fc9ki reckoned 1gb swap split over 2 drives would maybe be best03:48
iancjhcjhcjh - not sure what you mean, sorry. You want the exact error msg?03:48
fc9knot yet, planning to do some audio stuff though03:48
KArhutonfc9k, my system's "free -m" says: Mem:          1012       1002          903:49
ceffc9k: splitting it over 2 drives will work well03:49
KArhutonSwap:            0          0          003:49
fc9kbut i've got more hdd space than i need so i dont mind losing half a gig if its not used03:49
fc9kblimey03:49
fc9kyou think i've got too much?03:49
KArhutonfc9k, I don't have any swap03:49
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KArhuton1GB ram03:49
cjhcjhcjhian no, what line were you typing in to start the install...ie loadlin linux initrd-=....etc03:49
fc9koh and btw, is it easy to set up these partitions in the installer03:49
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fc9kblimey03:49
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iancjhcjhcjh oh sorry03:49
thoreauputicfc9k: it won't do any harm, but 500MB is probably enough (in case of emergencies)03:50
Ngfc9k: the kernel is tuned to expect twice as much swap as ram, although with 1gb ram it's unlikely you'll ever need the 2gb of swap. you do want some swap though03:50
NgKArhuton: why not?03:50
fc9kok03:50
KArhutonAnd I'm runing a win2k in vmware (128mb reserved, atleast), surf with firefox, compile, watch DVDs..03:50
KArhutonNg, I don't need it?03:50
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ceffc9k: unless you intend to suspend to disk using swap, then it's unlikely you'll need much swap (if any) if you have a gig.. depends on what you do though03:50
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fc9kright03:50
NgKArhuton: having some swap can be very useful, even if you don't ever use most of your ram03:50
KArhutonfc9k, You can use a swapfile if you need swap03:50
TvMhow can help me? i get that msg every 2 s03:50
fc9kwell i'll keep it at a gig to be safe, i dont want to juggle partitions later in the day03:51
TvMhow can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/392652 . the drive is empty...03:51
iancjhcjhcjh loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw --03:51
HClhmmmm...03:51
KArhutonNg, please explain03:51
iancjhcjhcjh I also tried your suggestion but that didnt work either03:51
fc9kso is this ok?03:51
HClassuming that my eventual window manager will be enlightenment, which should i start with, ubuntu, or kubuntu?03:51
KArhutonfc9k, you don't need swap parititons03:51
fc9khmmm03:51
fc9kok03:51
KArhutonfc9k, you can make a swapfile incase you need it03:51
JDigitalSwap partitions are a good idea03:51
cjhcjhcjhian try loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/ram rw03:51
kemccoubuntu03:51
thoreauputicHCl: ubuntu probably03:51
HClokay, thanks03:51
fc9kaside from then though, anything else wrong with that setup?03:52
iancjhcjhcjh tried that but will give it another shot03:52
HClyea, i was sort of wondering cause kde tends to be more userfriendly, but gnome works better combined with enlightenment..03:52
cjhcjhcjhian it worked for me...03:52
NgKArhuton: if you have some memory that is allocated, but hasn't been accessed for days (e.g. the memory relating to the programs running since bootup), the kernel can shunt that off to disk and free up some real ram, which is good because it can use that for buffers, so your system will be smoother :)03:52
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ProN00bawmygod, on k3b my buffer status just jumps arround when burning a cd *_* and the average overall speed is like half of my burners speed03:53
KArhutonNg, are you talking about cache?03:53
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ProN00bis that normal ?03:53
jaspfc9k: why have a seperate partition for windows programs?03:53
Howdy125fc9k .. if you just need to move some files from an ntfs to a linux partition the linspire live cd may work for that ...03:53
iancjhcjhcjh some error boss...03:53
NgKArhuton: pretty much, yeah03:53
iancjhcjhcjh same03:53
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cefif you've got enough ram, then swap becomes a personal preference.. and to me, that preference depends entirely on what I intend to do with the machine. if I intend to do anything intensive (eg: graphics), I add swap every time, cos the last thing I want is to lose something I'm editing cos I've run out of ram03:53
KArhutonNg, I have 641MB of my ram cached03:54
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sally_when I go to add applications and search for apt, the package apt-listchanges doesn't show up, but from a console I can do sudo apt-get install apt-listchanges and it is downloaded and installed.  Why doesn't apt-listchanges show up in "add applications"03:54
agent_does anyone know the config file/place to edit eth0, eth1, etc. name entries? that is, where one can manually delete these?03:54
cjhcjhcjhian 1 sec...checking something03:54
KArhutonNg, If some of my apps need unusually large amount of ram, it'll use the space from that cache03:54
sedekihow can i change encoding from utf8?03:54
NgKArhuton: I have nearer 750mb of cache and a little bit of swap used, but only 260mb of ram actually allocated to apps03:54
jaspfc9k:if you re-install windows, you have to re-install the program files anyway..03:54
NgKArhuton: indeed, so having more cache space is good :)03:54
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iancjhcjhcjh anything I cant tell you about my lappy to help you out?03:55
fc9kyeah03:55
KArhutonNg, reloading the cached files isn't much slower than reading it from swap03:55
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fc9ki dunno really, reckon i'd be better sticking all windows progs/games etc on th same partition as windows?03:55
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dataw0lfn03:55
fc9kcertainly would make stuff seasier03:55
NgKArhuton: I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying, it doesn't matter and isn't relevant here.03:55
thoreauputicsally_: becuse if all the apps available were there, you would have 17 000 choices :)03:55
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TvMhow can i solve these problem?? i get these msg every 2 s http://pastebin.com/392652 . the drive is empty...03:56
thoreauputicsally_: everything shows in synaptic package manager though03:56
ChousukeI wonder if there is a computer that could run all 17k apps offered by Debian at the same time.03:56
fc9kjasp: reckon i'd be better sticking all windows progs/games etc on th same partition as windows?03:56
KArhutonNg, what 'buffers' are you talking about?03:56
JDigitalI bet a beowulf cluster could do it03:56
Chousuke:o03:56
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cefChousuke: not all 17k of them are installable at once, due to conflicts03:56
Chousukeah, that's true.03:57
iancjhcjhcjh What about the possibility of copying the iso image to a partition and booting to that some how?03:57
jaspfc9k: yeah, why not. 15 GB would be fine for windows+apps, just add the rest to the big FAT32 partition, and install the games there.03:57
fc9khmmm03:57
KArhutonNg, you're saying, that some of the cache can be swapped inorder to have some actually free ram for ... buffering?03:57
Chousukeand some of them are metapackages.03:57
fc9kjasp: why?  can the games be accessed by linux then?03:57
bronsonAnd a lot of them are utilities like "ps" that run and exit immediately.03:57
NgKArhuton: no, some of the allocated ram can be swapped to make space for cache03:57
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cjhcjhcjhian yep could do...but do you have enough space for all that?03:57
sally_thoreauputic, do you know what the criteria is for allowing packages to show up there?  or where I can find it?03:57
ProN00bhumm, why swap, or have harddisk anyway ?03:58
KArhutonNg, what do you mean by allocated ram?03:58
ChasakeHello there, anyone familiar with IMAP under evolution in Breezy Badger03:58
ProN00bjust run your system on ram only03:58
KArhutonNg, running apps?03:58
titihi everyone ;)03:58
iancjhcjhcjh Ive got 3GB spare03:58
thoreauputicsally_: no, sorry - but if you want to browse, just use the more advanced synaptic03:58
ChousukeProN00b: Some people do that :)03:58
NgKArhuton: apps yes, but in this case sleeping apps more likely03:58
ChousukeProN00b: but it's not very safe if you want to preserve your data.03:58
jaspDon't really know, but that's how I do it. :-)03:59
iancjhcjhcjh Any idea how I can get win98 to boot to the partition and not windows?03:59
Chousukeunless you use a network filesystem. hmm.03:59
thoreauputicsally_: I believe there's an "advvnced" button in breezy that starts synaptic anyway03:59
titidoes anybody have sound probs.. like no sound at all?03:59
KArhutonNg, so I might be losing up to 100MB on apps that aren't doing anything?03:59
cjhcjhcjhian the only difference I can see with your setup and mine is this; I had a boot-loader installed, as I already had w98 and w2k installed. I used partition magic to clear some blank space first. I am just thinking that maybe it worked because I had a bootloader running03:59
KArhutonWhich could be used as cache instead..03:59
sally_thoreauputic, ok  thanks.  yeah I found it03:59
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thoreauputicsally_:  :)03:59
jaspI have the windows partition as NTFS (it came with the laptop). So I try to keep that as small as possible. :-)03:59
cjhcjhcjhian to answer your q...partition magic, and...sec...I will give you a useful url03:59
cefChasake: what's the problem?03:59
ProN00bChousuke, if you only load your system on the ram and have a small disk mounted to /home, its perfect ^^03:59
NgKArhuton: that's the idea, yes. you're not "losing" it as such, it's just that the kernel can use it for things that will help you right now :)04:00
ChousukeProN00b: if you have enough RAM.04:00
KArhutonNg, that's isn't too good of a tradeoff04:00
ChousukeI think you need at least 2GB to accomplish that on a Desktop04:00
Chousukeand the boot times would be long.04:00
cefChousuke: add to that "for what you want to do".04:00
jcsCould anyone direct me to a breezy repository that contains libdvdcss2 or similar?  Multiverse/universe/restricted aren't giving me anything.04:01
ProN00bhow much is breezy after its installed ?04:01
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Chasakecef: very strange, if I copy my old settings from Debian and I use IMAP, using a server-folder (called IMAP-Mail) where all my subfolders of mail reside, ONLY these subfolders are shown but NO inbox04:01
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NgKArhuton: I think it is (and virtual memory experts agree, which is why all decent kernels do this). I'd rather have my many openoffice windows have slightly more cache available to them than to have the web browser window I haven't looked at for days live in RAM for no particular reason04:01
iancjhcjhcjh Japan?04:01
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Chasakecef: If I switch to IMAPv4 the opposite occurs, ONLY the INBOX is shown but not the list of subfolders.04:01
cjhcjhcjhian yeah japan...am looking for url04:02
jaspfc9k:you might want to have the windows partition as ntfs, because some software refuses to run on anything else.04:02
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Chasakecef: I tried to find out where it goes wrong and it SEEMS like the fact that my home account is mounted on NFS causes this behavior04:02
fc9kyeah04:02
iancjhcjhcjh Cool, Im in Singapore. Taking a trip to Tokyo next month actually04:02
cefChasake: hrm I haven't changed my config since I upgraded from Hoary.. so no idea there.. but could that be related to the server? what's the cerver running?04:02
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thoreauputic!tell jcs about restricted04:03
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KArhutonNg, you'll be needing 750 and not 650 MB for those OOo files?04:03
ProN00bhow can i backup my stuff in /home/sweethome best to /mnt/hda ?04:03
Chasakecef: If i use my girlfriends account who does not have her home dir mounted on NFS, it works fine. So I copied her .gconf/evolution to my homedir, then her account work just fine04:03
Howdy125jcs try deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse04:03
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KArhutonNg, I don't see an issue there when there's so much ram available04:03
ChasakeCef: As soon as i change ONLY the login name in the running evolution, the problem comes back04:03
KArhutonNg. Maybe if the system had only 51204:03
NgKArhuton: *shrug*, you don't have to like it if you don't want to, it's true ;)04:04
ChasakeCef: we both use the same IMAP connection04:04
KArhutonNg, then there's an difference between 100 and 20004:04
ChasakeCef: and the server runs wuimapd I though04:04
cefChasake: ok, thgat is just weird.. might want to log it as a bug04:04
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fc9kJasp: right, heres my final partition plan: DISK 1: [Windows/programs/games - 60gb, / - 15gb, home - 25gb, swap - 0.5gb]     DISK 2: [swap - 0.5gb, files - 190gb] 04:04
titisorry-- i'm new to this...but can anyone help me with a sound prob??04:04
KArhutonNg, I rather have all my apps be responsive as long as they're running04:04
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fc9kthink thats all sexeh04:04
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Chasakecef: yes, would think so :) but this makes breezy unusable for me at this moment :(04:05
HClgheh.04:05
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HClsomeone should just code an prefetch cache for linux04:05
Chasakecef: Where can I file that bug?04:05
HCllike windows xp has04:05
fc9kright, any last minute advice from anyone before i wipe it all and reformat?04:05
Chasakecef: in ximian lists or on ubuntu lists?04:05
thoreauputicKArhuton: this discussion about swap has been well and truly decided - in Ng's favour I believe - on the kernel mailing lists etc04:05
fc9kare partitions easy to sort with the ubuntu installer?04:05
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jaspfc9k: looks good :-)04:05
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cefChasake: probably via bugzilla or on ubuntu-user04:05
fc9kjasp: cheers for your help mate :)04:05
nomedhi all04:05
nomedis there an irc chan for xubuntu ?04:06
KArhutonthoreauputic: The discussion is irrelevant in this case, I'd say04:06
Howdy125fc9k .. yes .. backup what you forgot to back up .. :-)04:06
fc9klol04:06
jaspyeah, you have to tell the installer what type the partition will be, and where to mount it04:06
fc9ki cant remember04:06
jaspit's not so complex04:06
KArhutonthoreauputic: I favor swap usage on low memory system, ofcourse04:06
fc9kjasp: right, any stuff i should know for that?04:06
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Chasakecef: thanks, I think i will do that.04:06
thoreauputicKArhuton: well, as Ng says , you can do as you prefer :)04:06
cefChasake: only other thing I could suggest is to delete or move the on-disk mailboxes if you're doing syncronisation04:06
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ProN00bcan anyone tell me whats the safest cp to backup /home ?04:06
cjhcjhcjhgreat, mail me and have a beer! chris_hopkin@hotmail.com  I am in Tokyo. still looking for url04:06
Chasakecef: I just today switched from debian unstable today and there it works fine, the whole debian system runs over NFS04:07
KArhutonthoreauputic: Well some idiot had suggested to fc9k to use 1GB of cache and create partitions for it04:07
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cefChasake: if you need the mailboxes, you might be able to re-import them (assuming you move them)04:07
jaspi would make /home and / ext3 filesystems, I'm not sure if you can format to NTFS though, maybe leave that blank, and let the XP installer format it.04:07
Chasakecef: Well it all uses imap and I deleted .evolution as well04:07
dooglusperhaps you could move the argument on to how you pronounce "cache"?  It seems to have got a bit stuck.04:07
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thoreauputicKArhuton: I'm not getting into this :)04:08
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fc9kjasp: i was gonna install xp first anyway and create the ntfs shizinit there, then let ubuuntu make  a nice bootloader and do the ext3 and fat stuff within that04:08
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ProN00bi suggest installing windows on fat if its on a linux box (still possible with all windows afaik)04:08
Chousukeno.04:08
dooglusI used to have a boss who insisted on saying it like "kay-sh".  It never stopped winding me up.04:08
Chousukeor well.04:08
Chasakecef: so the messages stay on the server, but that perhaps where evolution does not like it anymore. The IMAP-Mail dir is in my home dir on the server but on my own home-dir as well, because it is mounted over NFS04:08
windexdooglus, offtopic arguments go to -offtopic, where we will happily mock stupid opinions without prejudice.04:08
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Chousukeif you're going to run as admin anyway... it doesn't matter.04:09
jaspfc9k: ah yes, that's probably a better plan. Are you sure you have an XP install cd, and not a recovery disk?04:09
robstahi, can i find source debs for firefox-beta2 anywhere?04:09
Chasakecef: It is so very strange. I can't explain why it just does not work.04:09
doogluswhenever I try to burn an ISO to a CD, I get told that there's only 5Mb left on the CD.04:09
dooglusboth Windows and Linux tell me the same04:09
jaspbecuse then I don't know if you should format it...04:09
Chasakecef: And why should I all of a sudden start using IMAPv4 where just IMAP worked fine before04:09
dooglusand I've tried it with lots of new, blank CD media04:09
brudertip for the people that is dist-upgrading to breezy: make shure that you have the meta-package ubuntu-desktop installed before.04:09
doogluswtf?04:09
brudermine hasnt04:10
ProN00bdooglus, did you check the md5 sum of your .iso ?04:10
fc9kjasp : don't worry, i have a full complement of microsoft software :D04:10
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dooglusProN00b: yes - but that shouldn't make any difference anyway...  it's just bits as far as the burning process goes.04:10
Chasakecef: if I choose just IMAP the inbox does not appear at my girlfriends account too BTW04:10
jaspfc9k: Right ;-)04:10
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dooglusProN00b: and it happens whatever I try to burn04:10
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Chasakecef: anyway, gotta go. Thanks04:10
Chousukebruder: this update of mine wants to remove ubuntu-desktop for some reason.04:10
ChousukeWeird, but I can always fix it manually. :)04:11
jaspfc9k:Well good luck then. :-)04:11
ProN00bdooglus, did you try k3b ?04:11
fc9kjasp: cheers04:11
LazyAngelhow do i restart my network adapter? /etc/init.d/eth0 restart isn't the right command :(04:11
fc9kright, goobye all, i'm off to reinstall :D04:11
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ChousukeLazyAngel: sudo ifdown eth004:11
dooglusProN00b: no, I was worried it might contain KDE or traces of KDE.  I'm allergic.04:11
Chousukeand sudo ifup eth004:11
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LazyAngelChousuke: thanks04:11
ProN00bkde is teh borg, resistance is futile04:12
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ChousukeKDE hasn't assimilated me yet.04:12
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cefdooglus: what are you using to burn cd's under linux?04:12
thoreauputicdooglus: heh - like the peanut packet that says "Warning: this food may contain peanuts!" :D04:12
ProN00bits just libraries -_-04:12
doogluscef: cdrecord04:12
cefdooglus: running breezy?04:13
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doogluscef: mostly04:13
cefdooglus: try gnomebaker04:13
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ChousukeProN00b: kdelibs install quite a lot of stuff with them :po04:13
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Chousuke-o*04:13
doogluscef: I updated from hoary about 3 months ago, so the system has been all over the place.  I guess now it might be breezy, if apt has been keeping tabs on things properly04:13
cefdooglus: it's not as full featured as cdrecord, but it seems to work for me04:13
doogluscef, ok, I'll try that.04:13
doogluscef: did you mean 'k3b' there?04:14
BockBilbohello04:14
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Chousukecef: hum, gnomebaker is a cdrecord frontend as far as I know.04:14
cefdooglus: gnomebaker is funnily enough a gnome program04:14
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ivarq: after upgrading to breezy, my 'java' now points to gij and not the Sun java I've installed with make-java-package.. how do I get the sun java back ?04:14
Chousukearen't most linux CD burner GUIs such04:15
cefdooglus: hang on.. you've got space issues with burning an iso? are you burning on 74 min or 80 min disks?04:15
doogluscef: right.  but you compared it with cdrecord.  I wondered if you meant to compare it with k3b04:15
thoreauputiccef: you can tell because it doesn't start with a "K" ;P04:15
robbkiddEvolution/Exchange problem:  I can't seem to open my Exchange account's Sent Items folder.  Error: "Could not get new messages." All other folders work fine.04:15
doogluscef: 700m04:15
cefdooglus: ahh sorry.. meant to compare it with cdroast.. got confused04:15
Da_SWAThi all. I upgraded to breezy and noticed I had some errors. 1. I think I chose the wrong locale (some of text looks funny) 2. I got errors during the update (OoO returned error code). How can I 'redo' the entire upgrade process or something?04:15
cefthoreauputic: heh04:15
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Faw_hello, I'm looking for the mbexamine program that should come with cyrus21 but it isn't in any package, all I can find is a man page for it in the cyrys21-doc package04:15
doogluscdroast?  I don't know that one.  is that kde?  gnome?  neutral?04:16
FatherTymeAnyone have any love getting the wireless interface on an Area-51m to work?04:16
Chousukeit's for X afaik04:16
Chousukexcdroast04:16
thoreauputiccef: all the better KDE apps don't start with K, though - amaroK ends with a K instead ;P04:16
ianian04:16
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doogluswhat about using nautilus to burn the ISO?  that seems to be the simplest way.04:16
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cefdooglus: neutral.. still a front end to cdrecord though.. but while it can do interesting stuff, I found it painful after a while04:16
thoreauputicdooglus: xcdroast is old, but works well04:16
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dangood morn I am an IRC newb04:17
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cjhcjhcjhian still there? check out =http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/freedos_no_removable.html04:17
robbkiddFaw: Very true. That's all I see, too.04:17
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mateus hello ppl04:18
thoreauputichello dan :)04:18
limguohong91Hi guys, how do i play mpg file on Totem player?04:18
dan:-)04:18
Nikyodan: Welcome aboard04:18
cefanyway, time to go do other stuff04:18
danthanks.04:18
ceflater04:18
dooglusI put in a blank CD.  a dialog popped up: "burn audio, photo or data cd?".  I want to burn an iso - that's kind of data - but is 'data' the right answer here?04:18
danubuntu is the shiznit04:18
dooglusthanks cef.  bye.04:18
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El_Chedooglus: no04:19
El_Chedooglus: cancel and open a burn proggie04:19
BockBilboim trying to run a backup of my wordpress blog on my laptop and i have installed php4, mysql-server, apache2, and the corresponding packages to make them work together.... but i get an error saying: "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress." ... ive checked if the access to the mysql server, and its fine from the terminal using the user that wordpress uses, and in # wordpress they have to04:19
BockBilbold me to ask here...04:19
TFPcan i log on to my ubuntu server with vnc even when i lock it down?04:19
Faw_I thought I was doing something wrong, I need mbexamine for the webmin Cyrus module04:19
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BockBilboanyone knows what might be happening?04:20
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iancjhcjhcjh yup thanks! appreciate your help. will take a look now.04:20
TimMdooglus: I heven't tried it yet, but my brother said he just right-clicked the ISO image and selected 'burn to ROM' or something like that.04:20
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danTFP: what do you mean lock it down04:20
Paradoxx!mounnt04:20
mateushow do i config my laptop's widescreen resolution in ubuntu?04:20
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Paradoxx04:20
danif the service is still a'runnin, you should be fine04:20
windex!mount04:20
ubotumount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives04:20
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mateus!windowsdrives04:21
uboturumour has it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:21
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Paradoxxlol, ty04:21
cjhcjhcjhian hope it helps. I think it might be unhappy with your boot partition; installing bootmagic might help. Also will make life easier if you use partition magic to clear some space prior to the install, like 2Gb or more04:21
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TFPdan:  you can lock the desktop04:21
danright04:21
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danhe should be ok with the vnc server runnin'04:21
TFPah ok04:22
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bretzelI've just re-installed Breezy from scratch, but before I had tried Kubuntu Breezy and a part from beeing cool KDE centric env, I feel it is not complete has Ubuntu is... and BTW, "adept" pkg manager is ....useless - I am too much used to synaptic :-)04:22
danbut would it be cooler to ssh in to the box04:22
danpop off an xterm04:23
movies1978I agree adept and kynaptic are useless04:23
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limguohong91Hey guys, how do i play a mpg file on Totem Player?04:23
sally_in synaptic, what does the small ubuntu logo signify, between the column labeled "S" and "Package"04:23
apokryphosmovies1978: adept is hardly useless04:23
apokryphosmovies1978: but it's not synaptic and it's not kpackage.04:23
thoreauputicsally_: supported packages04:23
TFPyeah it would ;)04:24
ProN00bwhy did they make that strange totem player their default player ?_?04:24
titidoes anyone have problems with sound on this release?04:24
thoreauputicsally_: i.e. ones in the "main" repo04:24
dansuper dumb irc question04:24
padmawanlimguohong91: use totem-xine04:24
movies1978useless is a bit harsh, but synaptic on kdefied would be much nicer04:24
dani want to find a java channel04:24
thoreauputicsally_: the others are "community supported"04:24
jasplimguohong91:check out ubuntuguide.org, the part about installing additional codecs.04:24
apokryphosdan: ##java04:24
danflames welcome04:24
danoh groove04:24
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apokryphos!tell jasp about ubuntuguide04:24
limguohong91totem-xine?04:24
dan##java04:24
danoops04:24
sally_thoreauputic, ok thanks04:25
padmawanlimguohong91: right, sudo apt-get install totem-xine04:25
danwhat a great username thoreauputic04:25
limguohong91I see.04:25
ProN00bhow do i backup my /home best ? (what parameters does cp need ?) i wana do a breezy install from scratch04:25
limguohong91Okay04:25
limguohong91Thanks04:25
thoreauputicdan: glad you like it :)04:25
apokryphosProN00b: ideally you want to have your / and /home on a seperate partition04:25
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ProN00bapokryphos, how do i backup it now since i didn't do that ? *_!04:26
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jaspapokryphos: ah I see, thanx.04:26
os2macthis is a wlan question.04:26
os2macwhere is the essid and the key stored?04:27
apokryphosProN00b: you could tar it and put it somewhere. Though you won't want to if it's too big04:27
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os2macProNOOB there is always tar and gzip as well04:27
bretzelHELP: I have < ATI TV WONDER PRO  > and dunno if it is already setup/configured on Breezy-fresh install -- What do I have to do for seeing it working ? any hints ?04:27
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limguohong91How do i enable root user?04:27
pinucsetsu sudo04:27
movies1978id wlan is pcmcia04:27
bloodnikMe again :/04:27
ProN00bapokryphos, i just want to copy it as it is on a mounted vfat partition to preserve it when i kill the hedgehog04:27
thoreauputic!tell limguohong91 about root04:27
movies1978then it is /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts04:27
os2macno wlan0 is mini-pci04:28
bloodnikFor some reason, if I install ftpd on my server, I can't connect to it, I can't run it, and I can't get a manpage for it.04:28
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apokryphosProN00b: so do it :). A simple cp -r /home /some/other/partition/.04:28
movies1978try look there anyway04:28
bloodnikIs there a better alternative to ftpd that actually works? :\04:28
bwlangProN00b: i suggest you tar it up with  tar -czf homebackup.tgz /home04:28
bretzelwoah! Download speed @32kb/s only --- servers over charged! :-) :-)04:28
[LethAL] bloodnik, search synaptic :P04:28
bloodnikNo GUI04:28
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iancjhcjhcjh Will let you know how I get on. Thanks again for all your help. Even If Idont get it running you've been great04:28
bloodnikThere's pro-ftpd but IIRC that's harder to use04:29
bwlangbloodnik: i prefer vsftpd04:29
bretzelHELP: I have < ATI TV WONDER PRO  > and dunno if it is already setup/configured on Breezy-fresh install -- What do I have to do for seeing it working ? any hints ?04:29
[LethAL] bloodnik, Daemons don't have GUIs04:29
thoreauputicbloodnik: pureftpd04:29
[LethAL] ^^04:29
bloodnik[LethAL] , synaptic, however, needs the GUI :p04:29
[LethAL] Factoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...04:29
thoreauputicbloodnik: that might have a hyphen - pure-ftpd04:29
ProN00bapokryphos, -r will suffice, don't i need other special parameters for links and permissions (not important) and stuff ?04:29
bloodnikcool04:29
[LethAL] No Factoid Match04:29
apokryphosProN00b: nope04:29
[LethAL] script going off04:29
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bwlangbretzel: do you see something on your screen? - if so it's working.  If you want to be sure that you're using the correct driver you could look in /var/log/Xorg.log04:29
bloodnikput the script in the fridge then04:29
[LethAL] I did04:30
apokryphosProN00b: once you copy over the /home folder, and you have X user, you'll want to re-chmod the whole /home/x/ directory anyhow04:30
thoreauputicbloodnik: if you want an admin GUI there's pureadmin04:30
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TimMProN00b, I use cp -a.  Dunno if that's enough or not.04:30
bwlangapokryphos: that's why i usggested tar...04:30
bloodnikthoreauputic, I want one that I can manage without a gui04:30
cjhcjhcjhian good luck; and I never refuse a beer here in Tokyo ;-)04:30
[LethAL] Argh... Off now, byw04:30
apokryphosbwlang: why?04:30
bloodnikCos I'm sshing in04:30
bretzel bwlang:I am not there yet: bttv modules not loaded automagically ...04:30
thoreauputicbloodnik: well , you don't need a gui for pure-ftpd04:30
bwlangapokryphos, proN00b: tar will automatically do the username conversion04:30
thoreauputicbloodnik: and it's very simple04:31
bloodnikI installed it. Now I'm going to find out how to set it up.04:31
BooZeewow. at last! the breezy is working just fine!04:31
bloodnikdoes it, by any chance, automatically create accounts from passwd?04:31
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apokryphosbwlang: semi-self-defeating, since a chown takes a matter of seconds.04:31
ProN00bthanks, TimM, -a seems like a good choice04:31
bwlangbretzel: you don't need bttv modules for X to work... if your talk04:31
bwlangapokryphos: not if you have multiple users04:31
BooZeegot my new lcd SAMSUNG SyncMaster 730b screen!04:31
apokryphosbwlang: if he had *loads*, then yes, indeed not. I doubt that's the case however.04:31
bwlangapokryphos: especially not if you have a shared directory with different ownership04:31
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thoreauputicbloodnik: it uses existing accounts IIRC and of course you can add accounts04:32
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bloodnikexcellent.04:32
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thoreauputicbloodnik: it just runs on installation04:32
bloodnikftp: connect: connection refused :(04:32
bretzel bwlang: I did modprobe bttv tho ... yes they are lodaed but I am about to install mythtv & co and wondering how it will detect and configure the tv card ... I have to say I am newbie about tv cards... it is a new addition :-)04:32
cjhcjhcjhI still think I am misisng packages...shouldnt I have man? What else do I have to apt-get?04:32
bwlangbretzel: if you're talking about tv display then i can't help you04:32
BooZeesay, how can I config the screen (or ubuntu) to show the fonts correctly?04:32
thoreauputicbloodnik: try from another machine on the LAN04:32
BooZeei have a new LCD screen04:32
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bloodniksame, thoreauputic04:33
thoreauputicbloodnik: hmm - worked OK here :(04:33
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bloodnikftpd works on here too04:33
cjhcjhcjhbretzel, I have spent far too many hours fighting with TV cards. My advice is to throw it away NOW before it turns all your hair grey. Buy a telly...it will save ISA-shaped holes in the walls.04:33
bretzelmythtv seems really great and the only one central TV media center: went to zapit labs and configured my lineup - got all my local broadcasts setup :-)04:34
lee_hey all, i have just installed breezy and i have to killall esd to hear sound in games, even after following the howto on the forums - any idea whats up?04:34
freemanenI am trying to install ubuntu but I get a white screen after it has installed the package04:34
freemanenwhy?04:34
bwlangBooZee:sudo04:34
bwlangdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf04:34
TimMI shoulda changed my apt/sources.list.  got in a rush and the defaults are slow.  whodathunk?04:34
BooZeeand what to I do there?04:34
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iancjhcjhcjh How long have you been in Japan? I have the option to take a 6 month assignment in Tokyo starting in '06. Good life?04:34
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wouterd_anyone had trouble with gnome keeps forgetting keyboard layout settings?04:35
bwlangBooZee: that command will ask you about your screen...04:35
apokryphosTimM: it's alright to stop the dist-upgrade as long as it hasn't started installing anything (and it's just downloading)04:35
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bretzelBerk!! 21kb/s dnl rate --- Normal - Ubuntu is #1 in distrowatch!04:35
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apokryphosit has been for aaages04:35
Dr_WillisUbuntu Roxxors :P04:35
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cjhcjhcjhian get me on messenger please, chris_hopkin@hotmail.com - as we are off-topic04:35
vengeful_ubuntu is always number 1 on  distro watch04:35
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Dr_Willisof course disrto watch just monitors the # of downloads I think04:35
apokryphoscjhcjhcjh: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter04:35
bretzel18kb/s :-(04:35
TimMthankd apokryphos04:35
TimMor thanks :)04:35
lee_can anyone help me get rid of this killallesd problem?04:35
cjhcjhcjhapokryphos, tvm...ian, ...or join #ubuntu-offtopic04:36
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thoreauputic!tell lee_ about dmix04:36
MachineScrewwhy is the GNOME desktop better it's an older version isn't it04:36
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apokryphosMachineScrew: huh?04:36
BooZeebwlang: i don't know what X server driver I should choose..04:36
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bloodnikthoreauputic, if I run pure-ftpd I can connect, but I want it to run as a service at startup04:37
wouterd_Help! Gnome keeps forgetting my keyboard layout settings!04:37
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thoreauputicMachineScrew: Ubuntu breezy uses the very latest gnome....04:37
MachineScrewapokryphos: well I here that one is better than the other04:37
bloodnikthoreauputic, never mind04:37
BooZeemy screen is Samsung 730B04:37
bloodnikit's put itself in init.d04:37
MachineScrewI wana know why04:37
bloodnik:)04:37
thoreauputicbloodnik: it does04:37
lee_thoreauputic, thanks ill give it a shot04:37
apokryphosMachineScrew: no desktop is objectively perfect. Different desktop serve different needs04:37
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apokryphosMachineScrew: for the quintessential criticisms/objections, use Google04:37
KArhutonI have the original BitTorrent installed (the latest beta works in Ubuntu Hoary, out of the box) and want to upgrade to Breezy. ubuntu-desktop depends on the gnome-bt, but I don't want to install it. How do I install ubuntu-desktop and not the gnome-bt?04:38
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MachineScrewok so hmm I am an intermediate user04:38
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reagleBRKLNI installed breezy  over my existing hedgehog root partition.  everything is fine except my sound does not work04:38
MachineScrewapokryphos: I used both04:38
thoreauputicMachineScrew: and to become totally confused visit http://xwinman.org ;P04:38
apokryphosMachineScrew: and which do you prefer?04:38
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reagleBRKLNI checked alsamixer  and nothing is mutated04:38
bloodnikthoreauputic, sorry ... i do sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd restart and a) nothing happens and b) I still can't connect04:38
reagleBRKLNs/mutated/muted04:38
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KArhutonHeh. Mutated :)04:38
EnliteI just installed courier on ubuntu, and it asked me if I want to create dirs for web-based administration. I selected yes.. but how do I access the web based admin?04:39
MachineScrewapokryphos: what is better for laptops then04:39
BooZeecan somebody help me about configuring my LCD screen?04:39
os2machere's the problem: when I suspend my laptop and bring it back up, the network configuration is set to eth0 (even though that was disabled when I suspended it) and the essid and key are dropped from the wlan0 configuation...04:39
MachineScrewBooZee: What is  the problem04:39
os2macthat is what I am trying to correct04:39
thoreauputicbloodnik: all I can suggest is that you read the man page - it worked out of the box here04:39
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apokryphosMachineScrew: neither excels in the area specifically, I'd say. Personally I wouldn't use anything other than KDE on any system, really, though :)04:39
reagleBRKLNwhen I boot I note that says configuring "ALSA card 0"04:39
os2macand for the record /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts did not correct the problem04:39
apokryphosMachineScrew: a summary of common points: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kde/about-kubuntu/C/04:39
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MachineScrewapokryphos: just checking04:40
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BooZeeMachineScrew: well, the font's are a bit blurry..04:40
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thoreauputicbloodnik: I assume you don't have some funky firewalling rules or similar?04:40
MachineScrewBooZee: ok it might be to low04:40
bloodniknope, it's just another computer on the network.04:40
bloodnikJust installed Breezy as server.04:40
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MachineScrewBooZee: what it the size of the monitor04:41
bloodnikSo unless that setup installs weird firewalling, it's not that.04:41
wouterd_anyone knows anything about keyboard layouts?04:41
thoreauputicbloodnik: hmmm ....04:41
BooZee17 inch, working at 1280*102404:41
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BooZee60hz04:41
Dr_Willisgnome's font control-panel has a few settings to tweek the anti-aliasing of thefonts04:41
occyhow can you get the old folder action back?04:41
occyheh04:41
occyin nautilus?04:41
TrackilizerMy updating speed just droped from 26KB/s to 2KB/s, this is not normal, is it?04:41
MachineScrewBooZee: the hz don't matter with LCD04:41
Earthenhow can i list what port my printer is connected too?04:42
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MachineScrewBooZee: have you tried a higher resolution04:42
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BooZeeit is the highest..04:42
BooZeeplus, I don't want a higher res04:42
MachineScrewBooZee: ok04:42
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thoreauputicTrackilizer: have you heard of "slashdotting" ?04:43
occyI prefer the old drop down box at the bottom of the file folder04:43
MachineScrewBooZee: you in GNOME right04:43
Dr_Willislcd's generally look best when ran at their native resolution i find.04:43
BooZeeMachineScrew: yep04:43
MachineScrewgo to system -->prefrences --> and click on fonts04:44
bloodnikthoreauputic, I've had to do "sudo pure-ftpd -B" to run it as a daemon.04:44
bloodnikChances are I won't have to restart it too often so I'll just let it go.04:44
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ProN00bok, is there any way just backupping (cp) stuff without the dot in front of it ?04:44
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EarthenI'm trying to get mtink to work for my Epson Printer, but i am unsure on what usb port to point it to can some one help with this04:44
TrackilizerNo.04:44
MachineScrewBooZee: chose Subpixel smoothing04:44
Blairwoohoo! got my ubuntu booted (finally) now i just need to install a network and a mouse...04:44
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thoreauputicbloodnik: sounds like you woked itt out anyway - I don't recall having to do anything: the install script seems to have started it for me04:44
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BooZeeMachineScrew: hmm... can't tell if it's diffrent...04:45
BooZeemay be a bit..04:45
Blairquestion:  anyone else notice that at about 70% of the way through the package installs, the entire process slows to a dead crawl?04:45
BooZeeyes, I think it's better..04:45
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JemtGreetings. I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 and did a 'apt-get update'. Unfortunately the backports failed (error: 404 Not found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] ). Is the mirror down or have Ubuntu Corp. released a distribution with a broken link in sources.list ?04:45
pinucsetone chose, im trying to change one nice but it says that i dont have permise04:45
Blairwhat's happening there? some sort of O(n^2) lookup in the package manifests?04:45
MachineScrewBooZee: try also incresing the color depth or decresing04:45
EarthenJemt: as far as i know backport have been taken down04:46
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BooZeewhere do I do it?04:46
MachineScrewBooZee: I can't remember witch is better04:46
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JemtEarthen: Why? Ubuntu is worthless without backports04:46
thoreauputicTrackilizer: the ubuntu servers are under heavy load because of the breezy release04:46
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MachineScrewBooZee: for that we have to edit a config file04:46
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JemtDo you know of any unofficial backports for Breezy ?04:46
BooZeehit me!04:46
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EarthenJemt: I don't know why! I think they were having some problems04:47
MachineScrewBooZee: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:47
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apokryphosJemt: it was released, er, yesterday04:47
JemtEarthen: Ok. Do you know of any unofficial mirrors ?04:47
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=== Ng encourages all the backports fanatics to put down the crack pipe and stop breaking distros ;)
EarthenJemt: I don't no, sorry04:47
thoreauputicpeople, how would there be backports when breezy is only a day old?04:47
MachineScrewscroll down to the bottom and you will see your monitor stuff and resolutions04:47
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Blairbackport, schmackport...i just want to know why my clean install of breezy badger took (literally) 12 hours04:47
EarthenJemt: I'm pretty new to this my self so.04:48
ProN00bwho needs backports anyway ?04:48
apokryphosBlair: /topic04:48
MachineScrewBooZee: what is the Default Depth04:48
ProN00b12 hours ?!04:48
JemtAnyone > Where can I find unofficial backports for Breezy ?04:48
ProN00bis that normal ?04:48
whp_BLAH BLAH04:48
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apokryphosProN00b: /topic04:48
BooZee24. its called generic monitor. does that mean that ubuntu didn't recognized my monitor?04:48
Blairstarted around dinnertime...i ended up going to sleep about 80% of the way through the package installs04:48
utnubuJemt: many backports in hoar are now officially supported04:48
ProN00bapokryphos ?04:49
thoreauputicJemt: for heaven's sake - have a *bit* of patience04:49
funkyHathow can i see what settings X is currently using?04:49
EarthenI need to get mtink to work so i don't have to reboot into windows every time one of my ink cartages runs out in order to find out what on i have ti change04:49
Jemtutnubu: Well, using Breezy04:49
apokryphosProN00b: as in, check the channel topic04:49
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MachineScrewfunkyHat: edit the xorg.conf file04:49
Trinitrogenquick question, I want to make Ubuntu the default OS booted by Grub. I know I need to edit menu.conf but Im not sure where its at04:49
Blairnow...some of this will be hardware...i mean...P2-MMX 200 processor and maybe a 16X cd-rom...but still...it bogged down HARD around the p's in the package list04:49
funkyHatMachineScrew, there is no xorg.conf file04:49
BooZeeMachineScrew: so I should change it to 32 ?04:49
Jemtthespiritoftal: Not very easy as I in the middle of setting up several servers. So I actually need access to backports today04:49
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ProN00bwell, he said installing, apokryphos, and afaik installing doesn't necessarily use the net...04:50
funkyHatMachineScrew, i need to know what X is currently using so i can make one ;)04:50
MachineScrewBooZee: 24 and 32 are the same04:50
Blairbreezy's backports make interesting dinner conversation04:50
apokryphosfunkyHat: you wouldn't be able to restart x without one04:50
Blairfrrrp04:50
TrackilizerWOW!! I'm up to 14KB/s04:50
MachineScrewfunkyHat: oh04:50
funkyHatapokryphos, well there isn't one :P04:50
apokryphosProN00b: sure it does04:50
utnubuJemt: you kann use the hoary extras for w32codecs and so on or try to use "easy ubuntu"04:50
Blairawright...i'04:50
JemtWell, if hoary backports work, I'll just switch back to that distro :)04:50
JemtNo problem04:50
TimMBlair, how much memory?04:50
Blairm going to go work out04:50
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Blair64MB04:50
apokryphosfunkyHat: why did you delete it?04:50
ProN00bwoofoo, a cd install uses the net ?!04:50
MachineScrewBooZee: if it is't a problem then leave it04:50
Blairshould be enough for package loads04:50
apokryphosutnubu: no; it's not in hoary-extras anymore. Hasn't been for some time now.04:51
Blairit bogged down all the packages, even fiddly little things04:51
BooZeeMachineScrew: what do you mean?04:51
funkyHatapokryphos, didn't, none was created (gentoo *runs away before he is shot*)04:51
bretzelTrackilizer:  :-) I am @ 27kb/s ( massive updates + load of pkg to install ) -- I think I will be done tomorrow /...04:51
JemtWill backports for hoary work ?04:51
utnubuJemt: Breezy works just fine with the hoary extras :)04:51
MachineScrewBooZee: if you plan on running games change it to 1604:51
ProN00bTrinitrogen, locate menu.lst is your friend04:51
JemtOn hoary that is04:51
Blairso i'm thinking the fact that there were a lot of packages caused it to get progressively slower04:51
apokryphosfunkyHat: you're on gentoo?04:51
EarthenJemt: I'm using Horay I don't think there working for it eather04:51
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utnubuapokryphos, oh, good to know :)04:51
apokryphosutnubu: no... it doesn't.04:51
BooZeeMachineScrew: are you sure I shouldn't change it to 32 ?04:51
Jemtutnubu: Where can I find the extras ?04:51
funkyHatapokryphos, not here, the other machine sitting next to me. breezy here04:51
Blairas if it was doing a simple search of large portions of the disk for each package04:51
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MachineScrewBooZee: ya I am shure04:51
bretzelIS there driver of ATI tv wonder pro ??04:51
JemtEarthen: Ok, thanks04:51
BooZeeo.k. well how can I reload X ?04:52
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apokryphosfunkyHat: and you're telling me there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:52
Blairanyhow...i'm outty04:52
MachineScrewBooZee: that is the max for X04:52
thirsocan anyone help me with this error that i get trying to compile my ethernet card's driver? http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6922/screenshoterro25sx.jpg04:52
thoreauputicJemt: instead of bellyaching, why don't you say what you need specifically?04:52
apokryphosfunkyHat: whatever.. regenerate a new one with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:52
bretzelnevermind -- google is my friend04:52
MachineScrewBooZee: ctrl + alt + backspace04:52
utnubuJemt, search in ubuntuforums.org for "easy ubuntu"04:52
BooZeeo.k.04:52
BooZeethank you.04:52
BooZeeone more question:04:52
Jemtutnubu: What is Easy Ubuntu ?04:52
Earthensome one help with Epson Printer Please!04:52
Trinitrogenlocate menu.1st doesn't do anything, is there an argument I need for it to show the results?04:52
MachineScrewBooZee: no prob and shoot04:52
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Jemtutnubu: Well, checking the site :)04:52
thoreauputicTrinitrogen: L "l" not 104:53
BooZeeI tried updating the system (just installed it.. :-) and a lot of the sources were ignored or errored..04:53
BooZeei think some were called back ports..04:53
thoreauputicTrinitrogen: and it's in /boot/grub/04:53
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MachineScrewBooZee: did you catch the errors04:53
Trinitrogenthoreauputic: haha, sorry dumb mistake04:53
apokryphoseasy ubuntu sounds like a simpleKDE-effort-type-thing. Ouch.04:53
utnubuJemt, yep, is an install script which installs aditional often used programs04:53
ProN00bthirso, did you get the build essentials as well as the gcc package ?04:53
BooZeeMachineScrew: well I can do it again, and tell you04:54
BooZeejust a sec04:54
MachineScrewBooZee: ok04:54
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funkyHatapokryphos, it's not the ubuntu machine that has no config, i shouldn't have asked in here, i just thought it was a general question so would be OK04:54
thoreauputicTrinitrogen: easy to make though :)04:54
Jemtutnubu: I prefer customizing my distro myself. I have used Linux for several years.04:54
apokryphosfunkyHat: you're asking for the gentoo machine? Ahem... :)04:54
MachineScrewBooZee: just past in the site and the main universe thingys04:54
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Hoxzercan I have some help with the mythtv04:54
MachineScrewBooZee: one at a time04:54
utnubuapokryphos, huh, do not know the simpleKDE effort thing04:54
Trinitrogenthoreaputic: okay know how can I set Ubuntu to be the default?04:54
funkyHatapokryphos, yes, still though... general X question :P04:54
BooZeewhat?04:55
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HoxzerI like to remove old configures so I could set this up from the begingin04:55
apokryphosfunkyHat: nope; X is not the same on all distros, of course.04:55
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utnubuJemt, it has checkboxes to choose what to change04:55
MachineScrewBooZee: you using synaptic or apt-get04:55
BooZeeapt-get04:55
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coldpack#ubuntu-zh on irc.freenode.net04:55
BooZeewhere can I paste all the errors?04:55
thirsocan anyone help me with this 'make all' error ? http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6922/screenshoterro25sx.jpg04:55
apokryphos!pastebin04:55
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:55
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HClgeeze04:56
MachineScrewBooZee: ok it will check all the sites where it get the package info when you do apt-get update04:56
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Trinitrogenthoreauputic: Is it the "makeactive" ?04:56
HClthe ubuntu installer could do with a more userfriendly "install from network" option..04:56
apokryphosthirso: install gcc-3.404:56
ek0i\m having problems with apt-get and dpkg.04:56
ek0W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock04:56
ek0E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem04:56
MachineScrewBooZee: that command refreshes the package listing and other changes to the repo04:57
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MachineScrewBooZee: that has to be done first before any updates04:57
ek0when i dpkg --configure -a i get  "read-only file system)04:57
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BooZeehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/308404:57
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BooZeei did sudo apt-get update04:58
MachineScrewBooZee: ok04:58
MachineScrewBooZee: one sec04:58
BooZeek04:58
wouterd_ek0: try sudo04:58
ek0done it with sudo, got those results04:58
MachineScrewBooZee: get your sources.list open04:58
apokryphosBooZee: I'm sure you can guess the problem04:58
HClcan someone explain the difference in kernels (that i can select..) i got linux-386, linux-386-image, and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386...04:59
MachineScrewBooZee: its the back ports04:59
JDigitalHow much free disk space should I have to update Hoary to Breezy?04:59
MachineScrewBooZee: remove them04:59
BooZeewhy?"04:59
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BooZeewhat is a backport?04:59
apokryphosBooZee: er, because they don't exist yet.04:59
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HClanyone...?04:59
MachineScrewBooZee: well they are not ready04:59
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nicholas_paulhallo everybody!05:00
HClwhats the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386"05:00
HCl?05:00
JemtThanks for all your help05:00
MachineScrewBooZee: if you need thing that would be in there use horay-staging-backports instead of breezy-backports05:00
sproingieHCI: i suspect the former is a meta-package that includes the latter05:01
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BooZeewhat is backports?05:01
HCleh..05:01
HClhm..05:01
nicholas_pauli'm having trouble using ssh. according to Synaptic, its installed , but i can't log in to my other machines.05:01
HClah well05:01
bigfoot1anybody here use opera in breezy?05:01
MachineScrewBooZee: if you don't know you don't need it05:01
bigfoot1If you are a Breezy Operabrowser user, please say my name05:01
MachineScrewlol05:01
JDigitalbigfoot105:01
sally_nicholas_paul, what message do you get05:01
nicholas_paulmy name05:01
sproingieBooZee: backports are apps packaged for ubuntu after release time.  not as well tested05:01
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bigfoot1nicholas_paul, so you use opera.05:02
nicholas_paulnone sally. it just hangs05:02
bigfoot1nicholas_paul, smart alec05:02
JDigitalI haven't upgraded to Breezy yet, though..05:02
sproingiemy name05:02
Dr_WillisIused opera under breezy - i had to donload their Staticially compiled version I belive05:02
BooZeeoh... o.k.05:02
nicholas_paulno bigfoot1, sorry. i was just being an ass!! hehhe!!!05:02
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BooZeeso for now i'll just comment them05:02
bigfoot1sproingie, are you a breezy opera user?05:02
sproingiei downloaded the .deb, works great for me05:02
MachineScrewBooZee: ya05:02
JDigitalHow much free disk space should I have to update Hoary to Breezy?05:02
BooZeewhen should I uncomment them?05:02
bigfoot1nicholas_paul, no harm done, pal.05:02
nicholas_paulid like to tho, bigfoot105:02
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nicholas_paulbigfoot1 :D05:02
bigfoot1nicholas_paul, you'd like to what?05:02
bretzelWhay does xcompmgr locks gnome when leaving ...gnome ??05:02
nicholas_paulbigfoot1: use opera. i like it in osx05:03
MachineScrewcheck the ubuntu backports web page every so offten05:03
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sproingieJDigital: depends on what packages you have.  couple hundred megs is probably good05:03
JDigitalIs 491 enough?05:03
bigfoot1sproingie, i have plugin problems after i reinstalled opera (i got it from opera.com). Please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/307605:03
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sproingieJDigital: megs?  definitely05:03
BooZeeo.k.05:03
BooZeethank you!05:03
bigfoot1sproingie, can you help me ?05:03
MachineScrewno prob05:03
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BooZeeI know I said one more question, but now I have another one ..:-)05:03
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JDigital532MB free now05:04
MachineScrewBooZee: ya shoot05:04
JDigitalok05:04
chmurihi05:04
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sproingiebigfoot1: i never tried getting plugins to work05:04
bigfoot1sproingie, i see.05:04
MachineScrewBooZee: I am board you are keeping me entertained05:04
MachineScrewBooZee: lol05:04
otephello everyone, has anyone encountered this before: "cdrom: failed setting lba address space"?05:04
bigfoot1anybody else in this chatroom use Breezy AND opera browser? If so, say "Bigfoot1, I do"05:05
BooZeeI installed fresh 5.10 an hour ago or so. what useful things should I install ? like codecs and stuffs... (As you can see, I'm new in linux..)05:05
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MachineScrewBooZee: my self I install bunch of stuff05:05
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bretzelBooZee: enable unverse and multiverse repositories in synaptic and have fun !05:06
ProN00bopera sucks, bigfoot1...05:06
MachineScrewBooZee: gstreamer-plugins gstreamer-plugins-multiverse05:06
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bigfoot1ProN00b, amuse me and say why you think so.05:06
bretzelBooZee:read universe not unverse05:06
elvirolohi all05:06
Knorrie_bigfoot1: opera rulezzzz05:06
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MachineScrewBooZee: that is for most codec05:06
ProN00bits just another greedy company05:06
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elvirolomy hp deskjet 710C doesn't work under breezy ...05:07
ProN00band they don't even invented the "hey, lets sell a browser" idea05:07
ProN00b*didn't05:07
elviroloit is detected but it doesn't print jobs05:07
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MachineScrewBooZee: next i would get libdvdcss2 and w32codecs05:07
nicholas_paulIn 5.10, is nautilus broken?05:07
chmuriwhere in ubuntu is root terminal?? sudo sudo sudo its geeting on my nerws..:)??05:08
thoreauputicchmuri: to get a root shell type sudo -i05:08
Xenguychmuri: sudo -s05:08
thoreauputicsudo -i is better :005:08
Xenguythoreauputic: why?05:08
ProN00bsu root > you05:08
nicholas_paul:O05:08
thoreauputicaccording to the maestro Seveas anyway :)05:08
Ng-i is a login shell05:09
TimMchmuri, applications|system|root terminal05:09
BooZeei try to do "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" but I get an err05:09
Ngmeans you get a clean environment05:09
otepexit05:09
redloungehi. i have installed the newest jre 1.5.0_05 manually to /usr/java. 'java -version' gives me 1.4.2, how can i tell ubuntu about the new version?05:09
MachineScrewBooZee: the are not there05:09
reagleBRKLNdon't have sound with breezy, but if i rmmod snd-intel8x0, and then modprobe it, i do here a click05:09
reagleBRKLNsyslog says ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 1705:09
MachineScrewBooZee: go to this site05:09
sally_redlounge, update-alternatives05:09
TimMBut I like everyone elses answer better.05:09
MachineScrewBooZee: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/05:09
[TvM] its possible to instal flux in kubuntu?05:09
Xenguythoreauputic: it would be interesting to understand the difference between the two05:09
sally_redlounge, oh wait, if you installed it manually update-alternatives won't work05:09
thoreauputicXenguy: Ng just explained it above :)05:10
reagleBRKLNstill no sound though05:10
BooZeebut in hoary it was there...05:10
MachineScrewBooZee: get libdvdcss05:10
BooZeeI installed it like that...05:10
Xenguythoreauputic: never mind05:10
redloungesally_: ok... where does ubuntu saves its jre?05:10
MachineScrewBooZee: and the w32codecs05:10
chmuriok THX but how to login as root to snome??05:10
Enlitehow do i search for a package in apt-get/05:10
apokryphosthoreauputic: -i sets the appropriate variables and other such things05:10
chmurignome05:10
MachineScrewBooZee: ya they had to take them out05:10
thoreauputicapokryphos: yes, I know :)05:10
BooZeewhy?05:10
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thoreauputicapokryphos: Ng also explained it a minute ago05:11
MachineScrewBooZee: "Not Open Source"05:11
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apokryphosthoreauputic: my daydreams are becoming more exciting than my dreams at night 8)05:11
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MachineScrewBooZee: "licensing and legalities"05:11
apokryphosthat's what lack of sleep does to a [in] sane man ;-)05:11
MachineScrewBooZee: lawer crap05:11
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sally_redlounge, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:11
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nicholas_paulSo does anyone know what happened to nautilus?05:12
MachineScrewBooZee: the packages you are getting are for RPM based distros05:12
JDigitalWhen I change my repositories to look for breezy, I have like ten things05:12
sally_redlounge, look at the java section, I did it 10 minutes ago and it worked great, and then after you install it do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:12
JDigitalI guess I change them all, right?05:12
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apokryphosJDigital: /topic05:12
MachineScrewBooZee: we will use the alien program to convert them05:12
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XenguyI created a ~/.Xmodmap file last night; Ubuntu seemed to detect the file, but the new mappings still don't work unless I manually run 'xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap'.  Is there a simple way to 'load' xmodmap when starting X ?05:12
JDigitalThe link in the topic only says to change one tho05:13
JDigitalbut I figure I have to change multiverse too05:13
apokryphosMachineScrew: in case you don't know, /msg ubotu w32codecs05:13
redloungesally_: ok, thx. i will have a look...05:13
apokryphosJDigital: no, it doesn't05:13
BooZeejust a sec...05:13
JDigitalmultiverse and whatever stay hoary?05:13
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apokryphosJDigital: check the wiki entry; there's more things to do, too.05:13
reikiJDigital: I changed them all and my upgrade went just fine05:13
sproingieXenguy: put the xmodmap command in your ~/.xinitrc file05:13
sally_is anyone else having a problem with gpg signatures and breezy-updates: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid05:13
bigfoot1i'm in asia, how do i know which is the fast mirror for repositories for me?05:13
doogluschmuri: to set it up to let you run GNOME as root, run this:    sudo sed -i s/AllowRoot=false/AllowRoot=true/ /etc/gdm/gdm.conf05:13
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doogluschmuri: but it's a really bad idea05:14
beerockxsI just updated to breezy, and now nautilus no longer has an adress bar where i can enter a folder directly. How do I get that feature back?05:14
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chmuriwho swhy??? dooglus??05:14
Xenguysproingie: is that compatible with gdm and gnome-session stuff?05:14
apokryphosJDigital: ack, the synaptic guide does indeed say that, my bad. Change all occurences to breezy, yes. Make sure backports isn't enabled though; they don't exist yet.05:14
nicholas_paulme too beerocksxs05:14
axlpxlwhats the name of the gsteramer-package that enables mp3-support?05:14
thoreauputicubotu is thinking...05:14
MachineScrewBooZee: better yet go here05:14
ubotuthoreauputic: No idea05:14
Enliteare thre backports for breezy yet?05:14
doogluschmuri: what?  you asked "chmuri> ok THX but how to login as root to snome??" - I answered05:14
thoreauputicubotu: bah05:14
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, thoreauputic05:14
reikiEnlite: no05:14
MachineScrewBooZee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:14
sproingieXenguy: hm... good point, xinitrc might totally override the system-supplied one.  if that's the case you'll have to copy it05:14
TimMbeerockxs, do you have a view menu?05:15
chmuriwhy its baad idea??05:15
Xenguysproingie: any idea what the relvant file(s) might be, to configure?05:15
variantlaunchpad.net looks interesting05:15
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nicholas_paulTimm i have the same prob. No view menu. Nautilus doesnt open.05:15
beerockxsTimM, yes, it also has an adress bar entry. But that's not an actual adress bar where I can type in05:15
Xenguysproingie: I think I'll try your suggestion anyway, so thanks for that05:15
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doogluschmuri: say reason it's a bad idea to run windows as 'administrator'.  if your windows session gets taken over, they've got root straight away.  and if you type something stupid by mistake your whole system's dead instead of just your user account05:16
sproingieXenguy: looks like xinitrc is never used these days, so just try it, and if gnome session breaks, get rid of it05:16
TimMbeerockxs, is it checked?05:16
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MachineScrewapokryphos: didn't know that page was updated thanks05:16
ChousukeHmm.05:16
sproingieanother reason it's bad to run windows as admin is that it's actually slower05:16
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chmuriyest u are right05:16
BooZeewow, lot's of info... it's taking me a while..05:16
sproingieadmin has to go through more audit checks05:16
chmuri:)05:16
MachineScrewapokryphos: i was doing it the hard way lol05:16
ChousukeHope my family likes their new breezy :D05:16
dooglusslower?  why?05:16
beerockxsTimM, yes. It does enable a bar, but that's basically a list of buttons, like if the current directory is my home directory, it has a button for /, one for /home, and one for /home/beerockxs05:16
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sproingiedooglus: if audit logging is on, admin usually has more checks turned on05:17
Chousukesproingie: Slower and insecure, but at least usable ;>05:17
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sproingiedooglus: for a home PC that doesn't apply05:17
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TimMbeerockxs, I have mine set to open in a browser.  Is yours set that way?05:17
nicholas_paulsally - to answer your question, ssh just gives me time outs, no matter what IP i use (except for this machine's ip)05:17
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otephas anyone encountered this before: "cdrom: failed setting lba address space"?05:18
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sproingieChousuke: yep.  i know all the lectures about not running as admin, but i got tired of invoking runas.  i secure the machine now, not the local access05:18
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beerockxsTimM, you mean in the preferences? Yes05:18
TrackilizerI have a problem, even after installing the win32 codecs, all i can hear is the audio but i can't see the picture in .WMV files.05:18
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MachineScrewBooZee: go to this site to test your flash once you get it05:18
MachineScrewBooZee: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/05:18
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sproingieChousuke: there's so many local privelege escalation exploits on both windows and linux that it's almost pointless to keep local security05:18
Tobao_005:19
ProN00bsproingie, tell a shell provider05:19
Tobao rly?05:19
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wdh_hi ppls.. i have a problem after upgrading to breezy. When logging in to ubuntu i get the errormessage shown in this pastebin. Does anyone know a solution for this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i308505:19
MachineScrewbreezy badger people the theme song http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/05:19
Dekkardanyone having a problem with fastjar?05:19
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TimMbeerockxs, I guess I can't help.  Yet at least.  I'm not upgraded to breezy.05:19
Chousukesproingie: On a well-maintained Linux box that isn't true.05:19
dooglusMachineScrew: easier to remember is badgerbadgerbadger.com05:19
Tobasproingie: that's pretty much why I don't give anyone else an account on my linux machine05:20
sproingieProN00b: obviously an actual multi-user system is an exception05:20
TimMbeerockxs, but working on it05:20
MachineScrewdooglus: ya05:20
beerockxsTimM, ah. It worked fine as long as I was on Hoary.05:20
Chousukeon a desktop machine it doesn't even matter :/05:20
Dekkardor prollems with j2sdk?05:20
TobaI do however give accounts to friends on my bsd machine, because I think they take security very seriously05:20
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dooglusso I just wrote an iso to cd, and it seemed to work.05:20
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Paradoxxhmm, i wanna set up a partition i can write to from windows and from linux? will fat32 b aight?05:20
ProN00bToba, gimme s shell ^^05:20
sproingieChousuke: well-maintained does not mean "patched to paper over exploit of the week", it means a very tough policy mechanism like selinux or grsec05:20
TobaProN00b: notice how I said friends05:20
dooglusI tried reading it back to check it was ok and got a different md5su,05:20
Paradoxxi'm current ly useing hoary05:20
Chousukesproingie: I know.05:20
TobaI have no clue who you even are :P05:20
Chousukesproingie: :)05:20
dooglusmd5sum05:20
ProN00byes, Paradoxx05:20
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nicholas_paulsally. did you get my last q?05:21
brosiozanyone have k3b and dvd pioneer 110D i can burn only 2x with support 8x dvd-r anyone could help ?05:21
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doogluswhat did I do wrong:  dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum05:21
TobaSD:05:21
Tobabad idea!05:21
ParadoxxProN00b: kk ty05:21
Tobadooglus: that's a shitload of stuff to hash05:21
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dooglusToba: right.  but md5sum doesn't tire easily. ;)05:21
Chousukedooglus: md5sum /dev/cdrom ? :P05:21
Tobadooglus: what'd it say?05:21
TobaChousuke: that might work too05:21
chmuriwho have server on ubuntu??05:22
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Tobainsane people, chmuri05:22
dooglusit said 1263932+0 records in05:22
chmuriwhy insane??:)05:22
TobaI don't think ubuntu is a good choice for a server05:22
Knorrie_chmuri: use Debian Sarge05:22
sproingieChousuke: even a lot of linux vendors still push regular updates as sufficient security.  all it means is that they can rack up even more exploit numbers than MS due to all the extra software they take responsibility for05:22
dooglusthen 698835f9ddc8818e9ce3ee0dfb49388e05:22
chmuriyes i know but im qiute interesting who deare..;)05:22
Paradoxxwhen i am in fdisk, how do i breate a fat32 partition?05:22
bloodnikWhat pass should /home be mounted on in fstab?05:23
Paradoxxcreate*05:23
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Ngbloodnik: 205:23
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bloodnikthanks. Nearly got that wrong O_o05:23
Ngbloodnik: / should be 1, anything else 2. generally.05:23
dooglussproingie: you seem to be the voice of reason.  I was called a 'troll' earlier for correcting people who claimed that linux was bulletproof05:23
Chousukesproingie: on a Desktop machine regular updates and user awareness is all you need. :)05:23
chmuriwho have shell acount??05:23
Chousukewell, most of the time.05:24
sproingieMS does a heroic job of course keeping neck and neck with number of reported exploits despite shipping with about 1/10 as much software05:24
Ngbloodnik: (except things that should be skipped of course :)05:24
bloodnikNg, should I also give it errors=remount-ro like /?05:24
ProN00boff off and away to ubuntu breezy05:24
MachineScrewParadoxx: you would hit 't' and then select the partition you whant to change the type of and hit 'l' to see the codes05:24
Chousukesproingie: heheh :P05:24
Paradoxxhow do i create a fat3 partition in linux?05:24
DenskiParadoxx, delete all non dos partition and logical partitions then create a new dos partition, set it active and format it...05:24
ProN00bcyaz you all, if i don't come back, blame the ubuntu makers ^^05:24
TobaDenski: afaik mkfs doesn't do fat05:24
Ngbloodnik: you don't have to, but it won't really hurt - if you're getting to the point of fs errors things are all pretty bad ;)05:25
sproingiedooglus: my response to any claims of bulletproof is "dodge this".  well, should be, but then people will think i'm going to H4XX0R their box05:25
Chousukesproingie: that'd mean MS ships with, um, 1000 pieces of software?05:25
Denskioh ok...05:25
Denskimy fault05:25
MachineScrewChousuke: yeb and vista has more05:25
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bloodnikNg: well it's more of a just-in-case than anything05:25
MachineScrewChousuke: like SuSE 5 CDs05:25
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Ngbloodnik: yeah, if things have gotten that bad you might as well stop them getting any worse ;)05:25
ChousukeMachineScrew: really, 1000 apps?05:25
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ParadoxxDenski: how do i do that?05:26
dooglussproingie: for linux to be secure, every exploit discovered by the 'bad guys' must also be known and patched by the 'good guys'.  that doesn't sound too likely to me, given the amount of code there is and the rate at which exploits are discovered.05:26
bloodnikOK, time to remotely reboot05:26
MachineScrewChousuke: or dvd vista is supposed to be on dvd05:26
ParadoxxDenski: you mean the "Create a new empty DOS partition table"05:26
otroeanHi. Have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 but didn't get any question about root password. What it it then?05:26
ChousukeMachineScrew: will it still have a thousand apps?05:26
Chousuke:P05:26
MachineScrewChousuke: ya really you may not see every one of them but they are there05:26
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dooglus!tell otroean about root05:26
Tobadooglus: that's why the key to security is turning off services you don't use and putting as many restrictions up as possible.05:26
sproingiedooglus: even if you're up to date, it's a situation that decays over time.  better to be secure by default.  'course i don't take that advice on my home box, but i don't delude myself into thinking it's all that secure05:26
MachineScrewChousuke: probly more05:26
Tobaotroean: the same one as yours05:26
ParadoxxDenski: ??05:27
Tobaor empty05:27
Chousukesproingie: :)05:27
Tobathe way it's set up is very odd05:27
ChousukeI feel quite secure with my powerbook and OS X05:27
Tobasee, root does not actually exist in ubuntu05:27
MachineScrewChousuke: and all of them worthless05:27
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wezzerhow to get ati radeon 9800 to work in ubuntu?05:27
MachineScrewChousuke: The defrag is a joke wordpad and notepad are the same05:27
wezzerI mean the 3D rendering part05:27
sproingie!tell wezzer about BinaryDriverHowto05:27
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dooglusToba: root exists.  it's password doesn't, that's all.05:27
Tobao_0.05:28
MachineScrewChousuke: so ya bloat05:28
Ng-' ;)05:28
Chousukesince I don't have to care about worms exploiting every hole :P05:28
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ChousukeMachineScrew: heh :P05:28
Tobaand you can't actually log in as it either05:28
bpfanyone in here using vmware with breezy?05:28
Tobayou have to su05:28
Paradoxxhow do i create a fat32 partition in ubuntu?05:28
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MachineScrewChousuke: Though linux is not imune to bloat eather05:28
TobaParadoxx: google seems to be the best bet now05:28
Tobanobody knew05:28
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ChousukeMachineScrew: yeah.05:28
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bpfi'm trying to install and it says my current gcc is 4.0.2 but my kernel was built with gcc 3.4.505:28
TobaI tried to do it on a thumbdrive the other day05:28
yonilhow can i play a VCD ?05:28
Tobabut I couldn't05:28
miksuhi people. anyone managed to compile adom-sage under ubuntu?05:28
sproingieMachineScrew: uh, if you think wordpad and notepad are the same, you havent used windows in a while.  unless you mean philosophically (notepad's a thin wrapper around the text edit control, wordpad around the richtext control)05:28
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Chousukemiksu: hmm, iirc you need an older GCC05:29
Tobayeah, wordpad nad notepad are very different.05:29
MachineScrewChousuke: Fedora Debian SuSE and Mandriva05:29
wezzersproingie: thanks! :)05:29
Ngbpf: if it wants to compile you a kernel module you will need to install gcc 3.4.505:29
MachineScrewChousuke: bloat05:29
sproingiemmkay, on that note, gotta get goin05:29
ChousukeMachineScrew: Debian is hardly bloat per default05:29
MachineScrewsproingie: ya05:29
miksuchousuke just install with synaptic and make?05:29
bigfoot1anybody here downloaded opera for their breezy? I'm looking for the static version, because the etch version that I have is giving me problems05:29
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Chousukemiksu: something like that.05:29
MachineScrewChousuke: no but I meen come on 2 DVDs ?05:29
bpfNg, will that downgrade my current gcc or just install alongside?05:29
Ngbpf: it will install alongside05:29
ChousukeMachineScrew: You don't need all that.05:29
miksuchousuke any idea of the version?05:29
MachineScrewChousuke: Ubuntu is much better05:29
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dooglusI just read the .iso off the cd onto hard disk - it's 4096 bytes bigger than it was when I wrote it...05:30
ChousukeMachineScrew: and no-one forces you o even download all that05:30
Colloidi'm having alot of trouble with gPHPEdit on ubuntu 5.10, it's all fucked p05:30
Colloidup05:30
MachineScrewChousuke: If i am a new linux user I don't know that05:30
Colloidthe display is alll fucke dup05:30
ChousukeMachineScrew: Ubuntu also offers that 2 dvds of software :)05:30
ChousukeBut per default you only get a fraction of it.05:30
MachineScrewChousuke: not on ship it :)05:30
Colloidsomeone download gPHPEdit - and tell me if it's buggy for them05:30
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Chousukeyeah.05:30
MachineScrewChousuke: was just there today05:30
ChousukeMachineScrew: The point is, Debian packages craploads of software.05:30
bpfng thanks, i'll give that a shot05:31
MachineScrewChousuke: ya05:31
Chousukebut the base install is like 100-200MB05:31
Chousukeand then you build the rest of the system yourself, using that packaged software.05:31
MachineScrewChousuke: i like the fact that if i want a small system i can just type server and I get the ubuntu base system05:32
ChousukeYeah05:32
MachineScrewfor me that was the best way to install E1705:32
ChousukeThat's entirely possible because apt rocks :P05:32
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MachineScrewman that was beautiful05:32
dooglus"sudo -s" will leave you with your environment variables.  "sudo -i" will remove your environment and give you root's.  it depends what you want.05:32
nicholas_paulok and why does xchat keep signing me out?!!!05:32
MachineScrewbugy but very pretty05:32
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nicholas_pauland nautilus is still broken. is it not? anyone?05:33
jrattner1how do you add new repositories to breezy05:33
otroeanI want to change my resolutin. But can't find more than 640x480 i screen resolution settings...05:33
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apokryphos!tell otroean about resolution05:33
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MachineScrewapokryphos: have you been here a wile or are you an OP05:34
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dooglusNg: is there any way to find out which version of gcc was used to build the currently running kernel?  and do you have to build modules with the same version?05:34
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MachineScrewyou seem to know all the neat things05:34
apokryphosMachineScrew: /msg ubotu list  ...you can browse the factoids :)05:35
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jrattner1how do you add new repositories to breezy?05:35
Ngdooglus: cat /proc/version05:35
Ngdooglus: and yes, modules should be built with the same version05:35
Ng-should+must :)05:35
dooglusNg: I tried building a module recently and got nowhere.05:35
apokryphosjrattner1: /msg ubotu repositories05:35
jrattner1 /msg ubotu repositories05:36
_jason!tell jrattner1 about repos05:36
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Ngdooglus: that might have been why. It's kinda unfortunate I spose, but they change the internals of gcc quite a lot, especially from 3.x to 4.x, so there's no way it can do it and be sure things will work05:36
dooglusNg: I was using probably the breezy rc kernel, and gcc-3.405:37
dooglusthat's close, right?05:37
grogoreobefore doing a dist-upgrade would it be best to delete all my current packages? I've just been reading all of the problems people have been having.05:37
MachineScrewcool05:37
Ngdooglus: yeah, I would have thought that would work05:37
miksuchousuke found a patch for the compiling process in adom news , but it says first one solution then something like 'and using namespace standard' a little bit confused, what should i do?05:37
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jrattner1what is the breezy universe05:38
bpfNg, i installed gcc-3.4, but that is only 3.4.4 and vmware wants 3.4.5. it's also still finding the 4.* version. do I need to put a symlink somewhere?05:38
dooglusI can't remember the exact error I got - but something about version mismatch I think05:38
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jrattner1got it05:38
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MachineScrewbpf: look at the breezy how to for it05:38
kascheiI'm trying to make xorg work after a hoary->breezy upgrade, how do I set up virtual terminals without starting X?05:39
doogluscmp ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso /dev/cdrom seems like a good way to verify a burn is good.05:39
MachineScrewbpf: you need a patch05:39
bpfMachineScrew, thx I'll go look for it05:39
Chousukemiksu: hm.05:39
Chousukedunno.05:39
MachineScrewbpf: i got it one sec05:39
brosiozhow could i enable dma on my dvd recorder /dev/hda ?05:40
MachineScrewbpf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6563805:40
dooglusMachineScrew: are you saying that the kernel was built with a version of gcc which isn't available in a binary package?  that's messed up, man!05:40
bpfMachineScrew, thank you05:40
Ayide1Okay Im hjaving some trouble. I need the kernel sources for kubuntu 5.10.. now ubuntu and kubuntu have the same kernel right? I cannot access apt-get because I need the sources to compile the driver I need first. Could someone please tell me where to find the sources?05:40
MachineScrewdooglus: no05:40
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MachineScrewdooglus: I am saying that VMware wan'ts a different gcc05:40
MachineScrewthere are bins for it05:41
jrattner1Are people having problems with the repositories im getting 404 Not Found errors05:41
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Ayide1Okay Im hjaving some trouble. I need the kernel sources for kubuntu 5.10.. now ubuntu and kubuntu have the same kernel right? I cannot access apt-get because I need the sources to compile the driver I need first. Could someone please tell me where to find the sources?05:41
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jrrAyide1: apt sources are actually ftp or web servers - you can download the packages manually on a different machine05:41
MachineScrewdooglus: but there is a patch that you need for vmware any way05:42
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Ayide1Okay, how do I?05:42
Ayide1I need the kernel-sources05:42
Ayide1not sure how to do it on another machine05:42
Ayide1but if I knew how that would REALLY help05:42
MachineScrewAyide1: on sec05:42
jrrpackages.ubuntu.com might be of assistance05:42
Ayide1okay05:42
Ayide1thx05:42
brosiozanyway exist a way to active dma on my dvdrecorder without hdparm ?05:43
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ubuntuguyanyone: what is this java-package program? Does that let me build a .deb package from a java distribution?05:43
jrryes.05:44
dooglusubuntuguy: you give it sun's .bin and it wraps it up in a .deb so you can install and uninstall it cleanly05:44
MachineScrewAyide1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto05:44
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MachineScrewAyide1: that should be all you need05:44
Colloidwhy is the wiki https?05:44
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ubuntuguydooglus: thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for05:45
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MachineScrewColloid: to make it offical05:45
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Ayide1okay ill go check that05:45
Colloidbut they didn't even buy a proper ssl key05:45
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Ayide1is java easy to install on kubuntu?05:45
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MachineScrewAyide1: yes05:45
ui!restricted formats05:45
ubotumethinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'05:45
pinucsetone think, can amarok work in gnome?05:46
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doogluspinucset: sure05:46
seethrupinucset: yes05:46
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xTinaHm. Shouldn't update-alternatives be able to set the Kubuntu usplash back to be the regular Ubuntu usplash? Or is there some program that needs to be run first?05:46
doogluspinucset: you'll need to get the gnome libraries, but synaptic/apt-get will take care of that for you05:46
MachineScrewAyide1: this should do it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation05:46
dooglusjust might be a big download is all05:46
axlpxl[17:44:55]  rejected by tracker - Port 6881 - Blocked!05:47
MachineScrewAyide1: most of what you need05:47
doogluspinucset: *KDE* libs, of course05:47
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axlpxlHow do i open port 6881?05:47
pinucsetwich is this apt-get?05:47
pinucsetapt-get install kde libs?05:47
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trevishow do i make sure that my nvidia drivers were intsalled correcty? when i try and run penguin racer it lags like no other..05:47
Ayide1yeah it says how to find the sources on apt-get05:47
Chousukeaxlpxl: I think it's blocked on their end05:47
Ayide1how do I when not using apt-get05:47
Chousukeaxlpxl: change your port to something else05:47
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MachineScrewaxlpxl: are you behind a router05:47
LazyAngelhow do i shutdown the x server?05:47
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mohamedhi evrybody05:47
dooglusLazyAngel: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:48
Ayide1you could use init 305:48
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Ayide1to shut down xserver05:48
dooglusAyide1: gdm is in level 305:48
LazyAngeldooglus: thanks05:48
DonToddhello, anybody here get gmailfs working in breezy yet?05:48
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MachineScrewDonTodd: never05:48
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mohamedI have the breezy , how to pass into the stable?05:48
dooglusmohamed: you make it sound like a disease :)05:48
axlpxlNo im not behind firewall, router or anything05:48
DonToddMachineScrew: aww man! :(05:48
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axlpxlit worked on hoary05:49
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MachineScrewDonTodd: there is a web version05:49
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MachineScrewmohamed: sudo apt-get update05:49
ui!tell me about restricted formats05:49
DonToddMachineScrew: xmailharddrive, or something else?05:49
MachineScrewDonTodd: ya05:50
mohamedMachinescrew thanks05:50
mohamedMachinescrew : thanks05:50
Xenguysproingie: well, .xinitrc appeared to have no effect, and .xsession killed my gnome environment -- so 2 strikes here ;-)05:50
MachineScrewmohamed: no prob05:50
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kiwibirdanyone know why my breezy nee hoary firefox has all messed up text now? and x in general seems to get a lot of artifacts etc after my error-filled dist-upgrade...05:50
lhbahhhh... need to get onto a ntfs partition05:50
Paradoxxhow large is the upgrade to breezy?05:50
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bpfkiwibird, did you restart your machine or at least the x server?05:50
kiwibirdi've been getting soo many errors on that dist-upgrade..05:51
kiwibirdyeah, buncha times heh05:51
MachineScrewParadoxx: large05:51
kiwibirdran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg too05:51
lhbit is mounted but i cant copy anything from it05:51
nightswim!refreshrate05:51
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, nightswim05:51
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MachineScrewParadoxx: do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to find out05:51
treviscan anyone point me to a tutorial on updating nvidia drivers?05:51
Paradoxxso i'm guessing it isn't recommended i do an upgrade via apt-get or somthing like that?05:51
mohamedand how to check my linux version?05:51
dooglusParadoxx: that's exactly what IS recommended05:52
MachineScrewParadoxx: ya05:52
MachineScrewmohamed: version05:52
MachineScrewi think05:52
lhbmohamed: uname -a05:52
bretzelWhat the heck about libsigc++-2.0 stuff ??? the dev pkg hooked to cpp-2.95 ???????????/05:52
Paradoxxlol, kk05:52
MachineScrewmohamed: nope05:52
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MachineScrewmohamed: nevermind05:52
mohamedlhb: thanks does it tell stable/unstabe?05:52
dooglusParadoxx: although the mirrors might be a little slow, with everyone updating at once, so maybe getting the install iso and inserting it while hoary is running is better.05:52
Paradoxxhmm, guess so05:53
Xmeridiohi all,I have a problem with a thinkpad R32 can someone help me? Did someone have success to install 5.10 on this laptop?05:53
dooglusit offers "I noticed you just put in a ubuntu cd - do you want to add it as a repository" or some such :)05:53
dooglus(well, breezy offers that - I don't know if hoary does)05:53
Paradoxxi'll do the update i guess, i gonna b out for most of the day05:54
Paradoxxso i guess05:54
DonToddanybody here able to disable tap-to-click with alps touchpad?05:54
Dr_Willisi always remove the cd. as a source.05:54
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TFP85man i love ubuntu05:54
dooglusDonTodd: what driver does it use?05:54
TFP85everything works05:54
TFP85great new release05:54
jaramillohello guys, is there an up-to-date guide to mono-development with ubuntu ?05:54
DonTodddooglus: looks like synaptic05:54
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dooglusDonTodd: in that case I can help you05:54
Colloidanyone having problems or is able to get gPHPEdit to work properly on 5.10?05:54
puffmorning... so how did the breezy release go?05:55
lhbmohamed: no, linux kernel version05:55
jaramilloi've installed a few packages but seems to be unable to compile some files05:55
jaramillo;-\05:55
kiwibirdhumf, not my breezy.. hoary worked for me tho.. *sigh*05:55
Paradoxxyou kno what would b cool...05:55
Raskall-mobis breezy released? I thought it wasn't due until sunday.05:55
MachineScrewi am going to sleep for a bit up all night05:55
mohamedhow to enable DMA for my CD drive05:55
DonTodddooglus: I've tried hacking xorg.conf, but no love05:55
Paradoxxif they couldn't implement bit torrent into synaptic05:55
Dr_WillisDonTodd,  the gentoo wikis mention it -->  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad05:55
Paradoxxcould*05:55
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Dr_WillisParadoxx,  lol.05:55
mohamedlhb: 2.6.12-9-38605:55
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kiwibirdaeae05:55
Dr_Willisgive them a year.05:56
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kiwibirdum05:56
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CuriousCatRaskall-mob: yup. since yesterday05:56
dooglusDonTodd: A tap event happens when the finger is touched and released in a time05:56
ParadoxxDr_Willis: hehe, guess so05:56
dooglusinterval shorter than MaxTapTime05:56
oxezapt-get upgrade doesn't work, normal?05:56
dooglusDonTodd: so set MaxTapTime to zero, and you'll not be able to tap faster than that...05:56
puffRaskall-mob: Ah, sunday?  Last I checked they said Oct 13th.  I haven't been looking closely... been doing my best to ignore temptation, because I can't afford too much downtime on my laptop :-).05:56
Raskall-mobCuriousCat: cool.. strange that I dont have any updates pending, then. I don't think I've updated since wednesday.05:56
dooglusDonTodd:     If you set MaxTapTime=0 then the touchpad will not use tapping at05:57
dooglus    all, i.e. touching/tapping will not be taken as a mouse click.05:57
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Paradoxxwowo, the breezy sources are taking a while to d/l05:57
Paradoxxlol05:57
TrinitrogenI can't get apt-get install wpasupplicant to work? It keeps telling me it couldn't find the package but I see it on the debian package site05:57
brosiozsetting using_dma to 1 (on)05:58
brosioz HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted05:58
brosioz using_dma    =  0 (off)05:58
DonTodddooglus: I have MaxTapTime at 0, and Tapbutton1=005:58
brosiozanyone could help ?05:58
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Paradoxxhmm, 418 mb d/l05:58
dooglusDonTodd: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?05:58
Dekkardi hate gcj05:58
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Dekkardgrrr05:58
bretzelWow! in hoary I was unable to enable DMA on my hdc dvd drive now it works!!!05:58
hectorhola05:58
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pjwIs ubuntu-5.10-rc-dvd-amd64.iso beta?05:59
DonTodddooglus: uh, new to irc, let me find out what pastebin is05:59
dooglus!paste05:59
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:59
apokryphospjw: it's the release candidate; not official release.05:59
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treviswoops, can anyone point me to a tutorial to install nvidia drivers on amd64 ubuntu? my internet died06:00
dooglusDonTodd: don't worry about filling in the boxes, just paste your xorg.conf and click 'send' (or whatever it's called).  then tell us the URL here06:00
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pjwapokryphos: when will the official release be?06:00
puffIf I wanted to partition my drive and have two or three different ubuntu installations on separate partitions, with the user data, etc, on its own partition, what's a minimum reasonable size for the ubuntu installation partitions?06:01
jackmacokccan anyone take a look and please help? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7593406:01
apokryphospjw: it was released yesterday :)06:01
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apokryphospjw: you're looking for the dvd iso? One sec..06:01
pjwyes06:01
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oxezIs there a way to check if my preview install of breezy is up to date with the final release? A 'release' file or whatever?06:02
ColloidCan someone check out: http://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png for me and see what is wrong?!06:02
apokryphosoxez: it isn't06:02
trevisi think my nvidia drivers are loaded, but they dont seem to be changing anything, glxgears still gives me like 1 fps06:02
oxezapokryphos: ?06:02
jackmacokccolloid: The image %u201Chttp://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png%u201D cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.06:02
Colloidtry again06:02
Raskall-mobbtw, I am sitting on a train running 150 km/h logged from breezy. bluetooth setup against my phone just worked. :) But this is old news. Been doing it since hoary06:02
Colloidi uploaded as ascii, i fixxed06:02
mohamedguys , I don' t apt-get upgrade has upgraded my distrib06:02
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apokryphosoxez: the official release is significantly different (in a plethora of ways) to the preview06:03
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dooglusapokryphos: a plethora?  really?   like what?06:03
Colloidhttp://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png - breezy badger is fucked.06:03
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DonTodddoogus: i put it on the web http://webonaire.com/~todd/xorg.conf06:03
dooglusColloid: did you report it?06:03
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Colloidi couldn't find the package name for gPHPEdit06:03
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Colloidso not yet06:03
dooglusDonTodd: ta.  problems with pastebin?06:04
twibblerdoes anybody know which repository to add to get skype please06:04
graabeinhi, i have a question regarding pre-upgrade...06:04
apokryphosdooglus: I thought gnome was just put in about that time, actually; but anyhow, a whole bunch of bugfixes, tweaked apps, more docs etc etc06:04
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apokryphospjw: it's hard to imagine the ubuntu servers slower than this.. sorry, it's taking time.06:04
graabeinthe wiki says to check for conflicting packages... how do i do that?06:04
Xenomlittle question -> How can i get myself root rights or how can i copy files in a root dir. cia the root terminal06:04
mohamedtwibbler: get the .deb from www.skype.com06:04
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MFenthank god for apt-proxy06:04
vengeful_sudo06:04
twibblerthanks mohamed06:04
apokryphos!tell Xenom about sudo06:05
jrrXenom: sudo bash, but be careful =] 06:05
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navasoemthing weird happened to my ubuntu....i started and now the fonts in the log in screen are very small....but after that when im logged on..the fonts are fine..only the gDeskcal fonts are huge06:05
apokryphosgraabein: just make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed. If so, then go right ahead for the upgrade06:05
bloodnikhow does one find out if a partition is ext2 or 3?06:05
graabeinapokryphos, ok thanks!06:05
XenomOk, i always login with su, but i need to copy a folder to a folder where i have no access.. how can i do this trough the terminal?06:05
bloodnikIn fact, scratch that -- how do I make an ext3 partition?06:05
Xenomcopy doens't work :)06:05
graabeinapokryphos, cause it said something about firefox as an example06:05
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apokryphosbloodnik: sudo fdisk -l06:06
Dr_Willisbloodnik,  fdisk -l    - should show it.06:06
HClmkfs.ext3.. ?06:06
bloodnikfdisk -l just says "linux"06:06
apokryphosgraabein: link?06:06
apokryphosbloodnik: id06:06
XmeridioDo someone can help me? My 5.10 installation freeze on thinkpad r3206:06
dooglusDonTodd: it may be nothing, but are you allowed to have 2 "CorePointer"s?06:06
graabeinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes06:06
Raskall-mobwell.. soon home now.06:06
bloodnik83 = ext3?06:06
jackmacokcanybody have a clue why switching from AGP to PCI graphics causes a kernel panic?06:06
TrinitrogenHow do I apt-get wpasupplicant?06:06
Dr_WillisXmeridio,  what video card and cpu?06:06
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apokryphosbloodnik: yes06:07
dooglusDonTodd: here's mine: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/xorg.conf06:07
bloodnikok ta06:07
Xmeridiois a ati radeon and a 1,6 GHz intel mobile06:07
thirsoCan anyone please help me out with this? http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8301/screenshot17fc.png Trying to compile my network adapter driver06:07
linfoobloodnik: mkfs.ext3 /dev/{device}mkfs.ext3 /dev/{device}06:07
modzeroquick question for anyone who can answer06:07
Xmeridiobut I think it's dvd06:07
linfoobloodnik: double paster sorry06:07
DonTodddooglus: is this what you're after? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/308606:08
modzerorunnin ftp server here, and need to determine my ip adress outside of my lan. im set for dmz etc etc. but can connect to my own ftp server need my ip addy seems its changed wich is odd06:08
bloodnikyay it's making it :)06:08
N6REJhow do yo set the "SUID" bit for a file?06:08
linfoomodzero: whatsmyip.com06:08
apokryphosgraabein: having both of those packages is an odd occurence. And actually, I'm not sure if it's possible, but I won't change it for now.06:08
N6REJand g'morning to all06:08
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dooglusDonTodd: that's it - but it doesn't matter either way.  it's usually just quicker to use a pastebin site06:08
graabeinapokryphos, allright, ill just do the desktop package and take the plunge06:09
dooglusDonTodd: did you see my 'corepointer' comment?06:09
DonTodddooglus: gotcha; not sure about 2 core pointers, I'll give it a shot06:09
KnorrieN6REJ: man chmod, btw, it's good evening :P06:09
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Dr_WillisXmeridio,  like a x200 ati chip?06:09
apokryphosgraabein: chances are you already have it, but in this case it is indeed a case of "better safe than sorry".06:09
N6REJKnorrie chmod +S ?06:09
thesaltydogany idea on how to have a flash plugin working on firefox (i386)?06:09
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Xmeridiono no, it's a mobile06:09
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jackmacokcthesaltydog: have you checked the wiki?06:10
dooglusDonTodd: try commenting the one in 'synaptics'.  leave the conf.mouse alone.06:10
Xmeridioi think ati radeon mobile with 12 mb built in06:10
dooglusyou don't want "SendCoreEvents" and "CorePointer" together06:10
Xenomthesaltydog: www.macromedia.com download installer06:10
KnorrieN6REJ: just read the man page :)06:10
Dr_WillisXmeridio,  Hmm.. on some of the ati systems lately - ive seen where you need to either disable hardware acelleration in the xorg.conf - or set it to use the vesa drivers06:10
thesaltydogjackmacokc, yes. Installed flashplugin-nonfreee doesn't work06:10
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Dr_WillisXmeridio,  of course theres the official atifglrx drivers you could try also.06:10
[A] ndy80I've a problem starting NIS daemon. When I start it it says: Starting NIS services: ypbind [binding to YP server .......... backgrounded] , is it ok?06:10
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navawhat would happen if i upgrade my sistem and i loose the connection while its being upgrading? will i have to start over or continue later?06:10
thesaltydogjackmacokc, all my flash images are frozen06:10
apokryphosnava: re-running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will continue from where it left off :)06:11
Xmeridioi think the problem is not related to the video card06:11
navathanks!06:11
jackmacokcthesaltydog, what xenom said: www.macromedia.com and download the installer from there. that usually works i think as well06:11
thesaltydogXenom, I have to install manually? Packages don't work=?06:11
DonTodddooglus: thanks, gonna restart X now06:11
dooglusDonTodd: by the way - why are you disabling tapping?06:11
Xmeridioi've seen in google that is a problem whit modules of dvd06:11
Xenomthesaltydog: yes i did it manually06:11
jackmacokcthesaltydog, it does it from within the browser last i remember...theres nothing to "install"06:11
rodietzeHow many cDs can I ship for free from Ubuntu? I'd like to distribute in schools here in Brazil06:11
jrattner1where can I get the SMP kernel06:11
apokryphosrodietze: an awful lot; check on shipit.ubuntu.com06:12
thesaltydogjackmacokc, I just did it. Still frozen images..06:12
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rodietzecool!06:12
jackmacokchmm06:12
Xenomthesaltydog: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash06:12
DonTodddooglus: just a preference--I keep accidentally 'clicking' all over06:12
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thesaltydogXenom, ok I'll try06:12
modzerook i was wrong my ip was correct i just cant connect anyone familiar with pureftpd here?06:12
Xmeridiothe installation process start, i select language and it mount the cdrom06:12
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dooglusDonTodd: there's a way of disabling the touchpad for <n> milliseconds after each keypress - so you can't accidentally hit it when you're typing06:12
webguyi am thinking of installing ubuntu as a server.  is there a web page which describes the minimal resources/suggested resources from a memory and processor perspective06:12
jackmacokcjrattner1, can you not get it with apt-get?06:12
limguohong91When i run sudo apt-get install totem-xine. Do i run it under my own user?06:13
florahwhy would i have sound in totem, etc but not tuxracer?06:13
modzeroflorah killall esd06:13
Xmeridiobut when starts to install it freeze and pressing alt+f2 the last message is refered to the module isofs.ko06:13
bpfNg, should I follow that howto and use any-any93 or the newer any-any94 (i'm thinking the latter)?06:13
Dr_Willislimguohong91,  yes you can run xine/totem as the user.06:13
dooglusDonTodd: also, before you restart X, add this line: 06:13
modzeroenlightenment is the devil06:13
dooglus        Option          "CircularScrolling"     "1" # enable circular scrolling06:13
florahmodzero, what is killall esd?06:13
limguohong91Thanks Dr_Willis06:13
dooglusit gives you iPod-style touch-wheel scrolling :)06:13
modzeroopen a terminal and type killall esd then try and run tuxracer, enlightenement is a sound daemon06:13
XenomLeaving, bye06:14
modzeroits crappy and if you kill it i bet youll have sound in tuxracer06:14
modzerolet me know06:14
webguyi am thinking of installing ubuntu as a server.  is there a web page which describes the minimal resources/suggested resources from a memory and processor perspective06:14
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pinucsethow can i update amarok to the last release?06:14
modzeroanyone familiar with setting up an ftp server running pure-ftpd?06:14
jackmacokcso, nobody has a clue why i'm getting a kernel panic when switching from AGP to PCI graphics?06:14
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jackmacokcmodzero, i had a lot of trouble setting that up...vsftpd was easier IMO06:14
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dooglusmodzero: I did it a couple of years ago on mandrake.  it's a nice server06:15
florahi use proftp06:15
modzeroyeah but im testing pure admin out :(06:15
miksustill no luck compiling adom-sage. has anyone done it?06:15
spiralhi06:15
modzerogui im interested in.06:15
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DonTodddooglus: thanks, I'll give it a whirl now06:15
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florahok killing esd did the trick (thanks modzero), but how can i get both game-sounds and desktop/totem sounds to work?06:15
limguohong91But when i run sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my own user, nothing come up, do i have to do anything before i can use sudo?06:15
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florah!tell limguohong91 restricted formats06:16
modzerowell florah if you do it with esd id be proud lol. just open a terminal again and type start esd06:16
Colloidtoo many ppl need help here, not enough helpers06:16
marcel2105hallo zusammen06:16
florahlimguohong91, search for "ubuntu restricted formats"06:16
modzerolot of reading there but i can give you some links to get started if your that crazy about it06:16
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limguohong91okay, florah06:16
miksui would say this is working fine. after all, everyone is learning.06:16
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modzerovsftpd does that run only from a command line?06:16
florahstart esd <--- command not found06:17
helpmewhere can i order kubuntu breezy 5.10 dvd? i cant seem to find it ANYWHERE!  Plz help!06:17
marcel2105gibts hier jemand der mir vielleicht helfen kann???06:17
modzerohold on florah06:17
modzeroi lied06:17
modzerojust type esd06:17
modzerolol06:17
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modzerooh make sure you dont have sound running thoug lmao esd wont like that06:17
florahok thanks06:17
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suzan_@marcel2105: go to the german chat #ubuntu-de for german questions! ;-)06:18
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florahi guess i need to learn more about this sound business cuz that is confusing!06:18
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webguyi am thinking of installing ubuntu as a server.  is there a web page which describes the minimal resources/suggested resources from a memory and processor perspective06:18
modzeroauf wiedersehen :)06:18
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florah(turn off the sound daemon so sound in games will work)06:18
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florahwebguy, why not just use sarge?06:18
linuxamoeba21breezy is the best thing since sliced bread.06:18
jackmacokcwebguy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4506:18
webguywhat is sartge florah06:18
florahwebguy, debian stable06:19
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modzeroits debian and this is ubuntu florah06:19
modzeronaughty naughty06:19
webguyi have been hearing aobout ubunto... thought i would try i t out06:19
florahooooo sorrrrr-eeeeee06:19
modzerolol06:19
florahwebguy, i use it as my home server, works like a champ06:19
modzerolucky titrium isnt here06:19
HCli personally get the impression ubuntu is good for desktops, debian good for servers\06:19
florah(but we use the other for our mission critical servers at the office)06:20
linuxamoeba21webguy, best os ever06:20
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linuxamoeba21there is a server version of ubuntu06:20
modzeroubuntu is built on debian06:20
redguy|workhyrm06:20
webguywhat are the minimal reqs for the server06:20
modzeroits like windows 2k and nt06:20
florahubuntu is debian just with lotsa more stuff on top06:20
HClthats all true ofcourse06:20
modzeronot really though lol06:20
modzeroubuntu is a bit more bleeding edge06:20
florah!tell me esd06:20
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dgoldcan anyone say whether the absence of 'terminal' from Breezy System menu is deliberate, or a local problem?06:20
Bournecan the breezy installer resize a windows partition?06:21
linuxamoeba21deliberate, i believe06:21
florahdgold, look in accessories06:21
linuxamoeba21redhat ditched the terminal button back in version 806:21
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redguy|workgot lots of ' perl: warning: Setting locale failed. ' during upgrade is that ok?06:21
modzerohttp://www.tux.org/~ricdude/EsounD.html06:21
XenthroI set my desktop resolution to 1200x1600 and now my trash is floating in the middle of the panel... how do I put it back?06:21
mohamedhow can i upgrade my distrib to the stable06:21
BourneOr do I have to do that myself?06:21
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modzerostart here to find out what esd is exactly06:21
linuxamoeba21Xenthro, right click and "move"06:21
Dr_Willisdgold,  hmm.. i had one somewhere.I always put it in the  bar at the top.  i install otherr terminal software also. :P06:21
webguyhow do upgrades work?06:21
apokryphosflorah: no, it isn't. Read /msg ubotu relationship for what it actually is06:21
linfooXenthro: right click unlock, right click move, right click lock06:22
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dooglusdgold: install a package called 'nautilus-open-terminal' if you want your 'terminal' menu entry back06:22
Xenthrowow... dont i feel stupid. thanks!06:22
dgoldflorah: cheers < hits self upside the head>06:22
florahapokryphos, thanks for the hair-splitting ;)06:22
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modzerohttp://www.alsa-project.org/06:22
modzerothen here06:22
linuxamoeba21webguy, you want to upgrade what to what06:22
linfooXenthro: not a problem.06:22
florah!tell me relationship06:22
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modzerohttp://www.opensound.com/linux.html06:22
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modzerothen here06:22
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modzeroand finally06:22
apokryphosflorah: use /msg for investigating with ubotu06:22
Robi_are there any issues upgrading from hoary to breezy?06:23
webguywell as new releases come out how do you upgrade the system.  also how do you keep the system secure.  as you can see i am a newbie linuxamoeba2106:23
linuxamoeba21Robi_, worked fine for me06:23
florahi did it said it won't do it06:23
modzerohttp://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/index.php06:23
Jedricki need help  i cant view clips on my browser... i mean my totem as the default player won't play06:23
apokryphosflorah: what?06:23
Jedrickwhy is that?06:23
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Robi_linuxamoeba21 , so just change your sources and dist-upgrade?06:23
modzerook now ive helped, can someone help me with a pureftpd server?!! lol06:23
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dooglusmodzero: what's the probem?06:24
florahapokryphos, msg ubotu relationship ?06:24
modzerothx06:24
apokryphosthat's right06:24
linuxamoeba21webguy and robi_, change sources in /etc/apt/source.list or synaptic, then in terminal run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'06:24
modzerorunning server and cant connect period06:24
dooglusflorah: put a / infront of that06:24
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modzerosure my ip is correct no showing any debug errors either06:24
florahyes i know that06:24
florahubotu No, florah, I won't. (target invalid?)06:24
ubotuflorah: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:24
modzerodmz is setup etc etc06:24
webguyis it really that easy linuxamoeba2106:24
dooglus!relationship06:24
ubotudooglus: No idea06:24
dooglushmm06:24
linuxamoeba21webguy, as for security, patches are regularly pushed out through up2date, so just click install06:24
Robi_linuxamoeba21 , ya i know that, jsut wondering if there was anything else06:24
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linuxamoeba21that's all i did06:25
apokryphoshm, apparently removed. Just debian factoid then..06:25
apokryphos!debian06:25
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/06:25
webguyso how much ram and processor speed to run a baisc server?06:25
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modzerodooglus. ftp server? :(06:25
Dr_Willisnot a lot webguy .06:25
Dr_Willisdepends on what you are serving also.06:25
linuxamoeba21i've run a server with a pentium-90 and only the onboard ram. depends on what you're looking fo06:25
florahok thx apokrylaphtic06:25
HClwebguy: depends on what you're wanting to serve06:25
webguygive me an idea, i want to recycle and old computer as a web server06:25
dooglusmodzero: you can't access it from the host it's running on?06:26
DonTodddooglus: still no go on disabling tapping06:26
HCla pentium 60 can do fine as a simple webserver06:26
modzeronada06:26
dooglusDonTodd: strange.  I'll try using your synaptic entry in my xorg.conf...06:26
modzeroeven tried net2ftp06:26
linuxamoeba21i don think pentium-60's exist...06:26
Dr_Willisnow the install on such old/slow machines - can be a pain.. (ie SLOW)06:26
HCl...06:26
dooglusDonTodd: I've never tried it - I just believed the docs.06:26
DonTodddooglus: but you have an alps touchpad?06:26
_Admin1486sx06:26
linuxamoeba21yeah06:26
HCli had two on a shelf in my room06:26
HClfor over 3 years06:26
dooglusDonTodd: I have synaptics06:26
_Admin1hehe06:26
HCltrust me, they exist06:26
HCl :P06:26
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HCli successfully had one as my router/server for a year too06:27
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linuxamoeba21i want one06:27
dooglusmodzero: I'll be back in a bit06:27
Strogdoesn't take much for lowend06:27
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modzerok06:27
Dr_WillisC64 web server :P06:27
_Admin1d06:27
=== linuxamoeba21 give props to Strog
modzerosmoke break06:27
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webguythax all, i'll let you know how it goes06:27
linuxamoeba21good luck06:27
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DonTodddooglus: i have read that it requires some work to get things working with alps: http://home.uchicago.edu/~chad/06:28
skepsisCant't find with apt packages php4-gd and php4-mysql06:28
florah!tell me jack06:28
florahso what is the relationship between jack and esd, if any?06:28
apokryphosflorah: is there a reason for why you're not using /msg ?06:28
Robi_crimsun greetz06:28
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dooglusDonTodd: the hard bit is getting the driver working.  you've got it working, or tapping wouldn't work (would it?)06:28
apokryphosflorah: and being annoying06:28
DonTodddoolgus: like patching the kernel; I've tried this, but these instructions are for 2.6.10 source06:29
silent_screamhey all06:29
apokryphoshi06:29
florahapokryphos, i could've sworn yesterday i just used !tell06:29
DonTodddooglus: true, it's working :)06:29
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apokryphosflorah: so what? Please don't use it; use /msg when telling yourself factoids06:29
florahapokryphos, wrong side of the bed this morning?06:29
silent_screamif iam a root how can i see the thrash bin of other users?06:30
BooZeeMachineScrew: hey, finished with all of the codec things, but I had some problams...06:30
apokryphosflorah: no; maybe, just maybe, the problem is with you and not me? ;-)06:30
Sonderbladehow do i get ubuntu to detect my mouse middle button?06:30
linuxamoeba21question: i'm very disappointed with graphics with my (admittedly bad) ati radeon x300. do all atis suck? should i switch to nvidia?06:30
florahno, actually, i'm practically perfect in every way! :)06:30
florahyou're just a big snug around the collar IYKWIM ;)06:30
linfoosilent_scream: ls /home/{user}/.Trash06:30
skepsisHello! Is there packages "php4-gd" and "php4-mysql" out there anymore?06:30
apokryphosflorah: yeah, sure. Well, I'm not gonna tell you again :)06:31
florahlinuxamoeba21, did you get fglrx working?06:31
MachineScrewBooZee: what where they06:31
BooZeeMachineScrew: when I tried installing (apt-get install) gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse and msttcorefonts i got errors06:31
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florahapokryphos, thanks for being so sweet about it :)06:31
linuxamoeba21florah, it's installed, and i can do fglfx-info and all that06:31
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linuxamoeba21but GL screensavers, tux racer, ... are all absolute crap06:31
MachineScrewBooZee: ok did you add multiverse for your repos ?06:31
florahlinuxamoeba21, can you do the gears thing?06:31
linuxamoeba21yeah06:31
BooZeei don't know..06:32
BooZeeMachineScrew: how can I check?06:32
infernallhow do i send messages in console to another user?06:32
Dr_Willisgee i was impressed at how well my x200m ati did video/3d/ considering how low end it is.06:32
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sexcopter8000mhi, on my laptop, sound is working, but music is crackly. any ideas?06:32
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florahi have a dell d610 with x300 and it performs a lot better after i got the fglrx thing working..06:32
Dr_Willisbut given an option - use nvidia over ati. is what id say06:32
MachineScrewBooZee: at the end of each line in your sources.list there should be multiverse and universe06:32
BooZeelet me check06:32
MachineScrewok brb06:33
linuxamoeba21florah, i can run glxgears, but not fgl_glxgears, so i guess i lied06:33
modzerogood old nicotine06:33
modzerocough06:33
florahlinuxamoeba21, i followed this exactly and it worked for me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:33
miksuaaaaaargh severe adom addiction how to get adom sage running in ubuntu???06:33
linuxamoeba21rockin'. i'll give it a try06:34
BooZeei have "breezy universe"06:34
MachineScrewmodzero: just about what i was going to do lol06:34
florahtuxracer doesn't look like cs:s but it's fairly smooth06:34
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skepsiswho miksu06:34
MachineScrewBooZee: add multiverse at the end06:34
stjepanhello06:34
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MachineScrewBooZee: to all of them06:34
stjepanI am trying to install pyfltk. I get this error: error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)06:34
miksuskepsis adom is THE rpg and adom sage is a frontend i need to compile to get it running06:34
MachineScrewwow a cool 77F06:34
MachineScrewhere06:35
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WildBillanyone running networkmanager with a properly functioning BIND setup?  Mine is completely b0rked...06:35
BooZeeMachineScrew: but I don't have the universe in all of them.06:35
skepsismiksu: Ok.06:35
tyliuhello06:35
foxgamerAnyone know where I can find usb connected cameras? I thought it would be in mnt directory, but alas, no.06:35
MachineScrewBooZee: only the one with universe then I am sorry06:35
dooglusDonTodd: ok, I did a lot of tests...06:35
miksuskepsis someone mentioned of an older gcc but synaptic has just one gcc06:35
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deanhay06:36
modzerothe default port should be 21 for ftp correct?06:36
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miksuskepsis you are finnish btw?06:36
apokryphosyup06:36
dooglusDonTodd: first off, if I remove the synaptics stuff altogether, the tapping still works...  so my guess is that the driver isn't being used at all.06:36
tyliui am update to 510,but adsl not work by the system start time,how to set?06:36
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infernalldoes anyone know how to chat with another user through linux console?06:36
MachineScrewmiksu: ya there are sevral all the way up to 4.006:36
dooglusDonTodd: so whatever settings you specify are ignored.06:36
limguohong91When i enter my password for my log in in the sudo when it asked for one. It said wrong password.... how can it be? is it a default password?06:36
deanneed help how do i install java on ubuntu, need for some programs to run06:36
apokryphos!tell limguohong91 about sudo06:36
dooglusDonTodd: I also tried using your settings, and it worked fine without tapping.  (I removed the 'corepointer' bit)06:36
MachineScrewbut I think you have to have the backports06:36
miksumachinescrew so how to command make to use 3.4.4 . and how to install it?06:37
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modzerobackports are screwed on hoary i think06:37
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deanplease help me on java problem06:37
skepsismiksu: Sorry, didn't catch your message. Don't know how to sroll back with irssi :(06:37
modzerocommented them out06:37
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florah!tell florah jack06:37
MachineScrewmiksu: I am not shure on that06:37
tyliuwhat java problem?06:37
miksuskepsis oh never mind06:37
Xmeridiobye all06:37
pierook, guys, just upgraded my system to breezy... my mouse pad went mad. any idea what it might be?06:37
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deani want to run azureus but i can't turn it on06:38
MachineScrewmiksu: all I know is that they are there06:38
deandon't know how to run it06:38
deanor which packs has to be instakll06:38
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MachineScrewmiksu: I don't know how to make make do any thing06:38
florahanyone here use ardour?06:38
apokryphosdean: getit from their site06:39
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deanneed java for graphic06:39
MachineScrewmiksu: I am very new to programing06:39
DonTodddooglus: hmm, so it's not using the driver period06:39
dooglusDonTodd: that's about the size of it.06:39
dooglusDonTodd: what do you see in /var/log/X*06:39
modzerohmm dooglus where is the firewall administration in ubuntu? perhaps port 21 and/or ftp is blocked06:39
deanor better question why ubuntu doesn't know *.jar files, that he would automatic open them with java06:39
humboltI have a intel hda sound card and somehow I do not get how to make select the micro source for recording. I choose capture on the mic and turn on capture, but that does not seem to be it.06:40
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MachineScrewdean: you need java06:40
deanwhich java06:40
deanand how to install it06:40
miksumachivescrew yeah compiling should be as simple as 'make in source folder but i need to tell make to compile with gcc 3.4.4 and have now idea how to get it06:41
modzeroblackdown is good06:41
apokryphos!tell dean about javadebs06:41
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apokryphos(for sun java)06:41
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apokryphosblackdown is available in Multiverse, if you're on Breezy.06:41
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modzerosudo apt-get install blackdown maybe?06:42
MachineScrewdean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:42
modzeroneeds the repo though06:42
modzerosorry i dont much use managers06:42
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apokryphosmodzero: no, it's just j2re1.4 (for the jre)06:42
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stealhi06:42
apokryphosMachineScrew: no point in doing that if the debs are available06:42
deanam can you tell me how do i then use deb files06:43
modzerohe should be able to search java in synaptic though ?06:43
deanthat they istall that java06:43
apokryphosdean: sudo dpkg -i somepackage.deb06:43
apokryphos(to install it)06:43
MachineScrewapokryphos: ya but will azureus use blackdown06:43
steali'm trying to apply a patch to lopster with command patch  1.2.2-bugfixes-1.patch but it's still in wait06:43
deantnx06:43
dooglusDonTodd: if you "grep -i synaptic /var/log/Xorg.0.log", do you see errors?06:43
modzeroblackdown is more stable imho06:43
apokryphosMachineScrew: I have no idea, but I'm recommending the sun java debs06:43
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apokryphos(which certainly do work with it)06:43
adiabaticI'm upgrading according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes and getting about 2KB/s; should I get a CD image from BitTorrent and use that instead?06:43
modzeroazureus is yucky anyway lol06:44
MachineScrewapokryphos: oh ya ok I didn't know they where availible06:44
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apokryphosadiabatic: it's a possible alternative06:44
adiabatic(it'll probably be faster)06:44
naliothapokryphos: we still being /.'d?06:44
miksulol i upgraded yesterday 30 kbs , took 6 hours. well, tough luck.06:44
modzeroblackdown does work with azureus and its less of a mem hog. althoug azureus is still azureus06:44
Howdy125!j2re06:44
apokryphosnalioth: indeed; "having maintenance problems due to high traffic" -- i.e. servers are knackered :P06:44
ubotuHowdy125: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:44
Howdy125hehe06:44
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modzerognomebittorent here06:45
MachineScrewmodzero: give me BitTornado any day06:45
apokryphosthough actually using nothing at the mo because of uni06:45
naliothHowdy125: try /msg ubotu java06:45
modzeroanything but azur.. lol06:45
DonTodddooglus: no errors, it says ALPS touchpad found, auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event206:45
MachineScrewmodzero: I want the latest version of ktorrent06:45
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naliothMachineScrew: go get it06:45
MachineScrewapokryphos:  I want the latest version of ktorrent06:45
apokryphos!info ktorrent06:45
ubotuktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB06:45
dooglusDonTodd: could you update it?06:45
maurycyhey. I'd like to convert ntfs partition to ext2. any ideas how?06:45
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dooglusDonTodd: *upload* it06:45
MachineScrewnalioth: not on my computer06:45
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shovelcathi06:45
naliothMachineScrew: it can be done, if you want it badly enough06:46
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apokryphosMachineScrew: I notice 1.1 is out though.. probably has a few bufixes. You'll need to compile for that though if you want it.06:46
Howdy125They have an easy to install java package at that tinyurl place .. I forget the actual url though ...06:46
apokryphosMachineScrew: otherwise I'd settle for 1.0 which is in the repos06:46
MachineScrewnalioth: my cd drive took a crap on me last night during install06:46
shovelcati cant download the backport repository from .ca06:46
florais jack a replacement for esd, or do they work in conjunction?06:46
naliothHowdy125: try /msg ubotu java06:46
modzerook a portscan says my port 21 is open for ftp. why in the name of god can i not connect to my ftp server?06:46
apokryphosHowdy125: /msg ubotu javadebs  =)06:46
adiabaticUm, can someone point me to a BitTorrent x86 (or similar) CD image link?06:46
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naliothMachineScrew: does your network and apt-get work?06:46
stealhi06:46
Howdy125ty everyone ..06:47
adiabatic(I can't find any links on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ where I last saw them)06:47
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MachineScrewnalioth ya06:47
naliothapokryphos: singular singular06:47
naliothmachine then you can get it06:47
apokryphosnalioth: javadebs gives quicker access06:47
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apokryphosnalioth: though I didn't know ther ewas a mention of the debs in the restrictedformats entry06:47
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shovelcathow can i get alll the package existing with ubuntu 5.10 ?06:47
DonTodddooglus: http://webonaire.com/~todd/Xorg.0.log06:47
MachineScrewnalioth I am on a computer that has no sound and on 1gb left on a 4gb hd06:47
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Jedricki need help  i cant view clips on my browser... i mean my totem as the default player won't play06:47
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naliothapokryphos: we have 'javadeb' and 'javadebs' wtf?06:48
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apokryphosnalioth: and at a quick glance, I still don't see it :P06:48
apokryphosnalioth: they're the same, yes.06:48
MachineScrewnalioth: so only on my computer is there a point and my computer is stuck06:48
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MachineScrewnalioth: unless there is a way I can do a net boot into an install06:48
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modzeropllllllllllease dear god is there a network admin here , if my ftp doesnt work im gonna cry, i mean it lol06:49
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MachineScrewnalioth: i tried a usbstick install but it won't boot06:49
deanam i still get msg when i try to run that azerous can't find java in usr/java/06:49
shovelcathow can i get alll the package existing with ubuntu 5.10 ?06:49
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shovelcatthe listing06:49
MachineScrewnalioth: is there a way to revive my system ?06:50
modzeromouth to mouth06:50
MachineScrewmodzero: if only06:50
modzerolol06:50
limguohong91I had tried to enter the password for the program "Run as different user" I used sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my name and i enter the password but nothing happen after sometime. Why?06:50
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dooglusDonTodd: that is almost identical to mine.  I don't see what the problem is.06:51
wezzerI installed ati binary driver but now mplayer won't play movies fullscreen06:51
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naliothMachineScrew: after the breezy rush dies down, if you have apt-get surely06:51
wezzerIn hoary I remember a command that helped, but now I can06:51
deanhay how do i run RPM files in ubuntu06:51
graabeinprobably a stupid question, but can i keep gaim and beep-media-player running while doing dist-upgrade?06:51
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modzerosudo mkdir /mnt/usb_stick06:51
modzerosudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb_stick06:51
wezzer't find it anywere06:51
modzeromachine06:51
modzeroplug in the stick and type the above06:51
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MachineScrewis there a way to boot up from a eth and install ubuntu or kubuntu ?06:52
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naliothgraabein: of course you can06:52
DonTodddooglus: thanks for trying06:52
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deanrpm files?06:52
graabeinnalioth, thx06:52
naliothMachineScrew: do you have a floppy?06:52
MachineScrewnalioth: no06:52
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naliothdean: you dont06:52
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limguohong91I had tried to enter the password for the program "Run as different user" I used sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my name and i enter the password but nothing happen after sometime. Why?06:52
deanwhat can i do then06:52
modzeromachine screw . plug the stick in and type the foloowing two lines in your terminal06:52
modzerosudo mkdir /mnt/usb_stick06:52
modzerosudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb_stick06:52
MachineScrewnalioth: there are 2 ways into my system usb and eth06:52
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shovelcatwhere i can get docs for 5.10 ?06:52
naliothdean: have you enabled universe and multiverse?06:52
MachineScrewmodzero: I tried that06:53
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naliothMachineScrew: do you have 2 computers?06:53
modzerocan you give us the dmesg?06:53
TedLemonI've run into a bug in the way that xorg gets configured.   It's hard to decide how to report this - is it an ubuntu problem or an Xorg problem?06:53
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MachineScrewnalioth: ya06:53
modzerolast 30 lines06:53
linkrjhTotal newb question06:53
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linkrjhI just installed kmuddy06:53
linkrjhor whatever06:53
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naliothMachineScrew: will your afflicted one boot off the net?06:53
linkrjhI did the gunzip then tar then ./configure then make then make install06:53
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linkrjhBut now how do I run the program?06:53
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MachineScrewnalioth: it has that ability06:53
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deando not know06:53
deanwhere can i look that06:53
MachineScrewnalioth: but has to do it in the bios06:53
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MachineScrewif you can get me off of my gf old poc laptop that would be great06:54
naliothMachineScrew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot06:54
linkrjhSo how to I run a program after I did the ./configure, make, make install?06:55
modzeroill give access to my server to anyone who can get the dammn thing open to the net lol06:55
naliothlinkrjh: in the future, may i suggest using "checkinstall" instead of "make install" (makes system maintenance much easier)06:55
naliothubotu: tell linkrjh about checkinstall06:55
linkrjhOkay...06:55
linkrjhSo make, checkinstall?06:56
XenguyDoes anyone know how to automatically load a ~/.Xmodmap file when starting up X?  In this gdm/gnome environment, for some reason it is ignoring .xinitrc, and using .xsession instead causes gnome start-up to fail :-(   Anyone crossed this bridge before?06:56
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naliothlinkrjh: read ubotus link06:56
limguohong91I had tried to enter the password for the program "Run as different user" I used sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my name and i enter the password but nothing happen after sometime. Why?06:56
naliothlinkrjh: and you should just be able to "programname" in a terminal06:56
MachineScrewnalioth: what do I need to put on her system06:56
MachineScrewdhcp-boot06:56
linkrjhWhere do I find ubotus?06:56
Xenthro I installed the package "mldonkey-server" how do I access it and where is it put in my filesystem?06:57
djm62limguohong91: that's kind of redundant: you can just open a terminal and type that (it will ask for your password)06:57
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djm62limguohong91: or use System->Administration->Synaptic :)06:57
limguohong91djm62 so i just type sudo.... in there?06:58
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djm62limguohong91: from "run as different user" you don't need to type sudo, just aptitude install totem-xine06:59
naliothMachineScrew: why ubuntu of course06:59
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naliothubotu: tell dean about sources06:59
limguohong91djm62: Thanks :)06:59
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limguohong91So i run as my name or root?06:59
djm62limguohong91: if you run Synaptic, it will ask for your password, so no need to do sudo, and if you use a terminal, sudo aptitude install totem-xine06:59
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MachineScrewnalioth: no I meen to do a dhcp-boot07:00
marcus^is it better to run Ubuntu server, or Debian?07:00
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naliothMachineScrew: i'm not familiar with net booting, only the wiki page07:00
MachineScrewok07:00
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djm62marcus^: for a corporate server? look at the support options07:00
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wezzerumm, totem won't start after installing ati binary drivers07:00
Myrttiis it normal that my gnome-terminal flashes annoyingly allththe time?07:00
graabeinanother question -- The following packages have been kept back:07:00
graabein  bittorrent-gui monopd xine-ui -- is this normal??07:00
naliothmarcus^: they are virtually the same07:00
naliothgraabein: yes it is07:00
wezzerIt says: "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector."07:01
Myrttithis makes using irssi like trying to get kicks by poking yourself in the eye07:01
marcus^ok07:01
graabeinwhat does it mean?07:01
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naliothgraabein: means those pkgs havent made it into the repos yet and/or there are unmet dependencies that they use that havent made it in yet07:01
dooglusgraabein: you did an "upgrade" not a "dist-upgrade" did you?07:02
graabeinhavent done anything yet...07:02
graabeinthis is when i typed, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:02
dooglusgraabein: so what gave you the "kept back" message?07:02
Xenthrohi... could somebody tell me how i can access the "mldonkey-server" package I just installed with synaptic?07:02
graabeini am supposed to do a dist-upgrade, right?07:03
naliothgraabein: from hoary to breezy, yes07:03
graabeinyep07:03
graabeinthen i'm going for the y-key07:04
graabein:-)07:04
dooglusis there ever a time that it is better to do "upgrade" than "dist-upgrade"?07:04
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sleptno07:05
graabeinwhat is the difference?07:05
naliothdooglus: i only dist-upgrade when switching from major releases07:05
dooglusgraabein: dist-upgrade will add and remove packages to sort out dependancies, and upgrade will only get new versions of existing packages.  I *think*07:05
graabeinok cool07:05
dooglusnalioth: I dist-upgrade every hour...  is that bad?07:05
naliothdooglus: reckon not07:06
adiabaticWhen would it be bad?07:06
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graabeinbut breezy is final now? do you still get new updates?07:06
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adiabaticAnd if there's no good reason to do upgrade instead of dist-upgrade, why does upgrade still exist?07:06
dooglusseems to me there's two commands - "upgrade", which is a bit dumb, and "dist-upgrade" which is clever.  why use the dumb one?  why does it exist?  theremust be a good reason...07:06
naliothgraabein: you'll always get new updates07:06
HaRDaWaYhi07:06
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dooglusadiabatic: snap :)07:06
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rrezendeupgrade doesn't try to remove packages07:06
TedLemonOkay, I guess Kopete is the wrong thing to use for IRC just yet.07:07
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graabeinokay, enough yakking, im gonna do it!07:07
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HaRDaWaYi have one problem, i have breezy, and skype not runs, (any packages from skype.com), i have followed howtos, but not runs, when i execute skype, not runs can you help me please?07:07
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foxgamerHow do I report an error when the error reporting program gets an error every time?07:07
dooglusgraabein: you'll have plenty of time for yakking while it does its stuff...  it ain't quick :)07:07
dooglusfoxgamer: you bitch about it on IRC?07:07
mahangufoxgamer, catch22 eh ;-)07:07
graabeinhmmm good point, ill keep x-chat open...07:07
TedLemonHaRDaWaY, how did you install skype?07:07
foxgameryup!07:07
mahangudooglus, have you been informed of the plans to take over the world07:07
mahangu?07:07
dooglusfoxgamer: or you raise a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com07:08
mahanguthe secret council meeting was held in the other channel07:08
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naliothmahangu: take it over in #ubuntu-offtopic please07:08
dooglusmahangu: I missed that meeting.07:08
foxgameroh cool. thanks dooglus :)07:08
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doogluswho's behind it?  gays or jews?07:08
adiabaticdooglus: Joel Spolsky.07:08
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mahangunalioth, sorry my bad07:09
pc22how do i copy a text from encrypted pdf?07:09
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mahangunalioth, dooglus isn't in there, anyway my fault :)07:09
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mahangudooglus, #ubuntu-offtopic07:09
pc22how do i edit an encrypted pdf?07:09
ScatterBrainAnyone know why these packages don't exit in Breezy?: php5-doxml, php5-mcal, php5-pear,07:09
ScatterBrain php5-xslt07:09
HaRDaWaYTedLemon, i have tried a lot of ways, (with alien, with dpkg -i --force-overwrite, installing before libqtmc debian package..etc...), and nothing07:09
ScatterBrain*exist07:10
naliothpc22: you dont, unless you have the key07:10
pc22nalioth anything i can do07:10
TedLemonHaRDaWaY: breezy or hoary?  I have it running on Breezy, but to get it to stick around I had to hack the package.   :'(07:10
pc22i was able to do it in windows before07:10
naliothpc22: find an unencrypted pdf?07:10
dooglusjust a minute...  there are open source PDF viewers...  they must be able to decrypt PRF files, or how do they display them?07:11
HaRDaWaYTedLemon, breezy07:11
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pc22nalioth, no able to copy text from encrypted pdf07:11
HaRDaWaY:S07:11
naliothpc22: you can do that here07:11
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ericzjust looking for popular opinion, but which is better on breezy... gnome or kde?07:11
pc22how?07:12
TedLemonHaRDaWaY: Okay, so when you type "skype" on the shell prompt, it just hangs?07:12
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naliothericz: personal preference07:12
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HaRDaWaYyes, it not runs TedLemon07:12
knowledge_nalioth: How goes it?07:12
ericz:/07:12
HaRDaWaYTedLemon, with any error07:12
naliothknowledge_: fine, ltns07:12
HaRDaWaYwithout errors07:12
knowledge_ltns?07:12
HappyFoolericz: if you have the bandwidth and disk space, try both07:12
TedLemonHaRDaWaY: do you get a shell prompt back?07:12
HaRDaWaYno07:13
doogluslongtimenosee07:13
HaRDaWaYnot back TedLemon07:13
ericzhappyfool: i am installing kde07:13
ericzi just want to know if its worth it07:13
HaRDaWaYTedLemon,  i have to push control + C07:13
TedLemonHaRDaWaY: weird.   it sounds like maybe it' s having trouble linking up.07:13
HappyFoolwell, at least you'll have an informed opinion07:13
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TedLemonericz: I am running with KDE, and it's very nice.07:13
HaRDaWaYTedLemon, aha, and how i can fix it?07:13
TedLemonericz: UI needs to be more consistent, but it's not bad.07:13
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naliothericz: you can use kde apps under gnome and vice versa07:13
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ericzsomeone told me kde has like more options... for style07:14
ericznot sure07:14
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naliothericz: both DMs are "open" to your interpretation07:14
TedLemonHaRDaWaY: I don't know.   I would start up a second window and run tcpdump and see if it's doing anything on the network (make sure you're not doing anything _else_ on the network).   If it's hanging, it's not a problem loading the app - it's running, but not getting anywhere.07:14
HaRDaWaYok thanks07:15
Jedrickhow to know if i have a server facilities installed?07:15
naliothJedrick: have you installed any server things?07:15
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Jedricki think not07:16
Jedrickhow to isntall one?07:16
BooZeehow can I copy CD's and DVD's ?07:16
TedLemonericz: the main draw for me with KDE is that KMail seems to have a better UI than Evolution, and KDE is sort of mac-like (although that needs a lot of work).07:16
naliothJedrick: use synaptic07:16
sleptJedrick, what kind of server do you want ?07:16
naliothTedLemon: that's funny07:16
TedLemonericz: in general, there are good apps in KDE and good apps in Gnome, and vice versa - e.g., gnome terminal seems a lot better to me than kde terminal.07:16
Jedrickwhat are the types of server?07:16
TedLemonnalioth: I know, it seems deeply ironic to me.07:17
ericzinteresting07:17
Jedrickor how many servers are tere07:17
ericzkde is taking forever to get the packages07:17
TedLemonnalioth: I think maybe it's that kmail is closer in functionality to Mail.app, and I just switched from the Mac.07:17
sexcopter8000mhi, is there a way to disable my touchpad when there's a usb mouse plugged in?07:17
sleptJedrick, what do you want to do , if you dont know  google  for server07:17
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sleptJedrick, or do apt-cache search server07:18
naliothJedrick: you can have a ftp, ssh, http, nntp, irc, gopher, telnet, gpgkey, and probably some more07:18
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Jedrickok ill go for the ssh07:18
mickskyvitchI am unable to access my windows partitions from breezy though I can see them,any ideas?07:18
ericzare you supposed to be able to access windows partitions with breezy?07:19
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TedLemonSo I'll ask this question again: I've found a bug in the way that X probes the trackpad on my Sony on breezy.   The bug is probably somewhere in the xorg server, but it's the breezy version of the xorg server.   Should I file a breezy bug, or an xorg bug?07:19
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naliothubotu: tell mickskyvitch about mountwindows07:19
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mickskyvitchI ran that and still can't access them07:19
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HappyFoolmickskyvitch: windows access is read only07:19
sleptTedLemon, breezy I think07:19
mickskyvitchthey have a red cross on them07:19
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: err, that is, ntfs partition access is read only07:20
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HappyFooloh, that's probably just a umask thing07:20
naliothTedLemon: you DO know you can use mail.app on ubuntu?07:20
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djm62nalioth: how?07:20
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plthi@all07:21
naliothdjm62: compile it07:21
pltdoes anybody know something about mldonkey and ubuntu ?07:21
uihow do i install  sun-j2re1.5 in breezy?07:21
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mickskyvitchso can I take it that other than the above which I have tried and found not to work the answer is no?07:21
pinucsethow can i do for having a lower mouse speed in kubuntu breezy?07:21
TedLemonNalioth: don't want to.   The whole point of switching to Linux is that I want to be able to help my non-wealthy, non-geek friends to run Linux, so that they don't keep running old versions of OSX.   :')07:21
naliothdjm62: actually it's in the repos. try "gnumail.app"07:21
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ScatterBrainwOOT 2.4Kb/s apt-get install....I'm lovin' it!07:21
VincentMXhey why was i kicked?07:21
calvinhello, all.  anyone out there a fetchmail/postfix guru?07:22
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ScatterBrain:-)07:22
djm62ScatterBrain: torrent downloaded in 25min...07:22
VincentMXhmm ok07:22
Hoxzerhow can I make a directory writable for everyone?07:22
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: can you paste the contents of /etc/fstab, and the output of 'mount' to the pastebin?   (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl)07:22
calvinmy fetchmail isn't working since my Breezy upgrade yesterday07:22
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BooZeehey people, how can I burn a copy of a CD and a DVD ?07:22
HappyFoolHoxzer: 'sudo chmod o+rwx <directoryname>'07:22
mickskyvitchHappyFool one moment thanks07:22
naliothBooZee: use k3b07:22
ScatterBraindjm62: I'm trying to install Apache and PHP5 - I've already gotten Breezy.07:23
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HappyFoolHoxzer: don't change perms of system directories (/usr etc)07:23
djm62ScatterBrain: unfortunate07:23
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naliothVincentMX: where were you kicked from?07:23
BooZeenalioth: what is it?07:23
jose__hi07:23
dooglusHoxzer: if you chmod +t on the directory then people won't be able to delete each other's files07:23
jose__someone can tell me why i do not have wlan0 ?? or how can i put it?07:23
ScatterBraindjm62: Yeah, but I *completely* understand why.  I'm not complaining.07:23
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uinoone knows? :(07:23
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naliothBooZee: k3b is the most featured cd/dvd burning software we have available07:24
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ScatterBraindjm62: It just goes to show you how good Ubuntu is or how little bandwidth our servers have.07:24
HappyFool!tell ui about java07:24
BooZeenalioth: how do I install it?07:24
joseolesomeone can tell me why i do not have wlan0 ?? or how can i put it?07:24
naliothBooZee: use synaptic07:24
Mortis_plLook at www.muzyka.oz.pl The biggest site with Ubuntu downloads07:24
Mortis_plhttp://www.muzyka.oz.pl07:24
uihappyfool nothing happened :P07:25
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HappyFoolui: oopth07:25
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HappyFoolui: oh, there is something now...07:25
djm62can anyone help me with usplash not working on my machine? dpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix it, and the image stuff seems to be in the right place. where do I look?07:25
naliothui: look for priv msgs07:25
ui:P07:25
joseoledoes someone, how can i find driver for a usb wireless device?07:26
rrezendedjm62: did it stop work after upgrading?07:26
Mortis_plFor help look at http://www.teledyski.muzyka.oz.pl07:26
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djm62rrezende: nope, it's never worked. (hoary didn't have it, breezy isn't doing it)07:26
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mickskyvitchHappyFool,/etc/fstab/   doesnot exist output of mount is here   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309007:26
djm62it's the one fly in my ointment07:26
joseolecuz the one that i have for windows someone told be its not 60bts and thats why it doenst work with ndiswrapper07:26
rrezendedjm62: I had it working on breezy preview, but after upgrading to breezy final it stopped hehe07:27
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sleptdjm62, did you add splashimage to grub07:27
dooglusdjm62: it doesn't work for me, either.  it worked for a few hours about a month ago, but stopped as suddently as it started.07:27
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Ruudihi07:27
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djm62slept: isn't grub splashimage a different thing? I do have that07:27
linuxboyis the ubuntu servers taking strane?07:27
dooglusthing is, it's just a silly graphic that's on the screen for a minute or so...  no great loss.07:27
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: check again for /etc/fstab -- i'm pretty sure you need it and have it07:28
Ruudiis there a way to get iMAC G5 fan speed control working with ubuntu linux?07:28
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: it's not in your home directory07:28
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djm62dooglus: I personally concur, but it's the scariest bit of running ubuntu ("is this like DOS?" etc) when showing it to people07:28
VincentMXRuudi search for fan in the apt07:28
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noodlewhere do i get hte msttcorefonts for breezy?07:29
lokyllaola07:29
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VincentMXRuudi, you know how to use apt?07:29
naliothnoodle: from multiverse07:29
lokyllaola07:29
Ruudigot no linux installed jet VincentMX07:29
lokyllaola animaz07:29
nalioth!es07:29
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:29
mickskyvitchHappyFool,have looked in file sustem and though /etc/ is there no /etc/fstab/07:29
noodlenalioth: i enabled that ><07:29
VincentMXRuudi, ok07:29
lokyllaai alguien ai pa hablar en espaol?07:29
dooglusdjm62: fair point.07:29
naliothnoodle: they are there07:29
naliothlokylla: en #ubuntu-es, por favor07:29
lokyllaquien eres?07:30
maewoohoo breezy's out07:30
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: it's not '/etc/fstab/', it's '/etc/fstab' -- it's a file, not a directory07:30
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RuudiVincentMX me thinking if it's possible at all, yellowdog didn't do it, no point to install otherwize07:30
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: open a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> terminal) and type 'cat /etc/fstab'07:30
malverian[work] Wow.. the update servers are so horrible right now :-P07:30
noodlenalioth: multiverse is dead for me07:30
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ericzit's taken me like an hour, 30 min to get kde packages, and its only 75% done... ubuntu must be popular :P07:31
mickskyvitchHappyFool,terminal says no such file or directory07:31
naliothnoodle: i'm sure it is, being breezy is causing server slowdowns across the board07:31
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HappyFoolmickskyvitch: hmm07:31
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: this is not good07:31
noodlenalioth: i will try again in the morning thx07:31
mickskyvitchah got it one moment07:31
pdlnhrdi just installed the new version of ubuntu (amd64)  and when i look at the system monitor it shows one cpu, but before when i looked at it it would show two, i have an emt64 dual core chip.. is it necessary to install an smtp kernel?07:31
VincentMXRuudi, has a point. but some parts of MacOSX are opensource. the fanspeed controller maybe ass well07:31
pdlnhrdsmp kernel07:32
naliothpdlnhrd: if you dont have an smp kernel, then yes07:32
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pdlnhrdnalioth: thanks.07:32
mickskyvitchHappyFool, here you are   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3091    ty for your patience07:32
pdlnhrdalso, is there a package for configuring dual monitors?07:32
Ruudiwell i wonder it would be done then VincentMX just not a programmer by myself...maybe i should just get Tiger :) but well allways liked linux as well07:33
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naliothHappyFool: you gonna edit for mickskyvitch ?07:33
HappyFoolnalioth: i was going to tell him to add umask=000007:34
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VincentMXRuudi, ok. maybe you could partition your Hardrive and put MacOSX one one partition and Ubuntu/edubuntu/kubuntu on the other07:34
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naliothRuudi: the installer can resize your OSX partition painlessly07:34
Ruudiyeah i got yellowdog installed that way...but no thermal control is too noizy to use...07:34
naliothRuudi: ah a new imac07:34
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Ruudig5 yes07:34
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: do you have a memory stick plugged into the computer? or a sata disk?07:35
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Ruudinot the newest but flatone :)07:35
naliothRuudi: you are out of luck until dapper drake07:35
mickskyvitchHappyFool,I have a USB drive sda107:35
VincentMXRuudi, the half bold? it rocks07:35
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HappyFoolmickskyvitch: ok, i'm going to leave that alone; i'm not sure it should be in /etc/fstab07:35
stjepanhello07:36
Ruudihmm VincentMX not sure half or not, but the one that got no built in cam jet :)07:36
naliothRuudi: breezy does not support the new flat imacs07:36
stjepanI am installing pyFLTK from source. There are some errors with opengl. How to install opengl???07:36
VincentMXah that one. the early iMac G507:36
mickskyvitchHappyFool,okay any help is appreciated07:36
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309207:37
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Ruudianyway with ome ram OS X can do :) just wanted to check out freeware music soft on linux...07:37
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jessid_Hello07:37
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HappyFoolmickskyvitch: i recommend removing the /dev/sda1 line too -- i presume you ran winmac_fstab while the stick was plugged in?07:37
ubuntuguyanyone using citrix metaframe?07:37
VincentMXRuudi, ok07:37
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mickskyvitchHappyFool Yes I did07:37
Mrdiniprobably something really simple, but - how the hell do I upgrade from a RC to ubuntu 5.10?07:37
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kokoko1hi07:37
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naliothMrdini: using ubuntu now?07:38
Mrdininall, yeah07:38
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: it probably detects all ntfs/fat partitions, so it also added the mem stick -- but the mem stick should be automatically handled by ubuntu07:38
naliothubotu: tell Mrdini about upgrade2breezy07:38
sally_is anyone noticing that the gnome and firefox ui lags a bit every once in a while (once a minute or so)?  like, I go to the System menu, scroll over preferences on the way to administration but once the mouse is on administration, the preferences submenu stays up for 3/4 of a second or so... firefox does similar things, has anyone noticed these?07:38
jessid_hello to everybody... I want to ask something: how can i put hard disk in low consumption mode in ubuntu? i used to do that in suse with kpowersave but now i dont know how to do it. thanks07:38
sally_I'm on breezy07:39
mickskyvitchHappyFool,okay I'm going to edit that now07:39
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naliothjessid_: is kpowersave not available here?07:39
Mrdininalloth, ah ta - knew it was something simple.... for some reason I couldn't find that page07:39
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stjepanIs there opengl package for ubuntu???07:40
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Eppujessid_: hdparm -B option is one way07:40
mickskyvitchHappyFool sorry to be a pain I thoughT i knew how to edit can you post the command please07:40
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HappyFoolmickskyvitch: yeah, sure07:41
josslut07:41
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' should work07:41
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jessid_nalioth i havent found it yet+07:41
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HappyFoolmickskyvitch: after that, do 'sudo mount -a -o remount' -- should change the mount settings07:41
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[A] ndy80I'm using ubuntu breezy. I cannot install skype because it requires libqt3c102-mt. But this package is obsolete in ubuntu and there is libqt3-mt that is not ok for skype. How can I fix this? Thanks07:41
nemo__Hi, I wonder if someone could help me. I have a DEB file "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" how do I install it07:41
jessid_Eppu is there any app that I can use?07:42
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skullzBOFHhi07:42
ericznemo_: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb07:42
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Eppujessid_: install hdparm and edit /etc/hdparm.conf. There is an apm option you can set. Lower value means more agressive power management07:42
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sergeyhello, can anybody help me with burning an iso image to a cd?07:42
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sergeyi don't know where to start and what program to use07:43
nemo__Thank you ericz07:43
jessid_Eppu thanks a lot...i'll see it right now07:43
HappyFoolsergey: can you find the iso using the file manager (i.e., nautilus)07:43
djm62sergey: right click on the icon07:43
shaargaraepasergey, use k3b07:43
sergeyyeah, sure07:43
shaargaraepasynaptic -> search k3b07:43
djm62sergey: and nautilus has a menu item for burning07:44
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HappyFoolsergey: then do what djm62 said07:44
sergeykb is already in the distribution or shoud i install it,?07:44
randomc0deok, so random question - I installed the gcc-4.0 package, wrote a little test c program, and gcc is telling me it can't find stdlib.h or stdio.h... and "find stdlib.h" or "find stdio.h" give nothing07:44
sergeytnx, guys. I'll try this07:44
djm62which reminds me, I grabbed the 64bit livecd to show ma bro07:44
sergeytry to locate your gcc package to see if there are availble07:44
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sally_randomc0de, install libc6-dev07:44
sergeydo locate gcc07:44
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sergeyusually all libraries are in /usr/include07:45
sunshinehelp please i#ve mess up my computer i sudo gedit this file /lib/lsb/init-functions now my computer is stuck at the begining before log in it say i have to repair it manually and rebooot how do i take off the changes i made to this file07:45
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HappyFoolwell, the header files are in /usr/include07:45
naliothrandomc0de: install "build-essential"07:45
sunshineit said it a synathax error07:46
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naliothrandomc0de: this will get you a bunch of programs to allow you to compile things07:46
mickskyvitchHappyFool thanks for all your help but I am still getting 'folder contents cannot be displayed'07:46
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: hrm07:46
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: did you run 'sudo mount -a -o remount' ?07:46
sunshinenalioth you know lots can u help07:46
sunshineme07:46
randomc0denalioth, I figured it out, it was libc6-dev07:46
mickskyvitchhappy fool,yes I did07:46
nightswimdoes gdm somehow cache an xorg.conf?07:46
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: ok, can you please paste the output of mount to the pastebin again?07:46
randomc0desally, thanks... I find it hard to believe that c, java, and c++ programming isn't automatically installed07:47
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sunshinedoes anyone know how to edit this file /lib/lsb/init-functions from the before the login07:48
thespiritoftalis today a good time to upgrade ubuntu to the new distro?07:48
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mickskyvitchHappyFool, here you are   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309307:48
ericzubuntus servers are so slow :( it's taking hours to install kde07:48
randomc0dethespiritoftal, I suggest downloading and burning the cd's to do it, using the apt repositories takes ages07:48
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naliothsunshine: boot into rescue mode07:48
sunshinehow do i do that07:48
uihow do i install jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin in breezy?07:49
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Mrdiniericz, use mirrors07:49
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: did you add the ',umask=0000' lines to the /dev/hda1 and so on lines in /etc/fstab ?07:49
thespiritoftalis breezy really much more better than hoary?07:49
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hmrochahello07:49
mickskyvitchyes I just checked and they are there HappyFool07:49
naliothui: you can get a java deb for breeze (much easier)07:49
ericzmrdini, i would if i knew any, and its at like 75% now anyway... after 2 hrs07:49
hmrochai'm having a big trouble with two applications07:49
naliothubotu: tell ui about javadeb07:49
hmrochawavesurfer and transcriber07:49
sunshinewhen i press esc it only give me normal and recovery when i press recorvery it just takes me back to where it want me to manually repair the root system07:49
nalioththespiritoftal: progress is wonderful07:49
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: ok, run 'sudo umount /dev/hda1' and 'sudo mount /dev/hda1'07:49
hmrochaboth hang07:49
uithanks alot nalioth  :D07:50
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hmrochastracing wavesurfer shows that it hangs opening /dev/dsp07:50
naliothsunshine: get an Ubuntu livecd07:50
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sunshinei'm on a ubuntu live cd07:50
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sunshinethat how i access this07:50
naliothsunshine: then mount your HD and find the script you knackered and fix it07:50
cjhcjhcjhNewbie; which apt-get should I do to get loads of foxy chicks to come running to my door?07:51
sunshinehow do i mount my hd07:51
ivanoxIf I have a movie that I would like to burn and watch on dvd, then which software would be most useful to me?07:51
mickskyvitchHappyFool thank you so much mission accomplished07:51
bpfNg, you still here? i followed that howto on vmware with breezy and it gives an error when trying to power on the VM. any ideas?07:51
HappyFoolmickskyvitch: ok, cool07:51
cjhcjhcjhsunshine, cd /mnt    mkdir fred   mount fred   /dev/hda1   or 2 or 3 or something07:51
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stjepanI live in Croatia and I want free Ubuntu CDs. If I request free CDs from shipit.ubuntu.com, will I have to pay anything, because CDs won't be sent from Croatia?07:52
naliothstjepan: free shipping for free cds07:52
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cheitozzhello07:53
TrinitrogenHelp, apt-get install wpasupplicant isn't working for me, its saying it can't find the package :(07:53
cjhcjhcjhstjepan, they will be posted with postage paid to your country; you might have to pay import tax, ubuntu can do nothing about that...if its a small quantity, your customs may not notice it07:53
thespiritoftalstjepan: no you don't ubuntu have shipped me 10 CDs over to Turkey without wanting a penny07:53
mickskyvitchHappyFool you have rescued so much data for me.This place and the whole community is fantastic thank you asll07:53
cheitozzwhat amule version uses ubuntu 5.10?07:53
vengeful_trinit, have you added the other respositries?07:54
sunshineit said it cant find mnt sunshine in etc fcstab or etc/mtab or am i meant to put in fred07:54
Trinitrogenvengeful_ : I don't think so, I wasn't sure how to add to the sources.list07:54
intelikeyTrinitrogen apt-cache search wpasupplicant07:54
LasseLcheitozz, 2..0307:54
cheitozznot have kademlia?07:54
HappyFoolerk. 30 hours to breezy iso finish downloading... *sigh*07:55
stjepanbut what about postage??????07:55
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Trinitrogenintelikey doesn't return anything07:55
sunshinehda107:55
sergeyanother simple question, i can't play mp3 files with totem it says There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins07:55
naliothstjepan: they will be shipped free to you07:55
intelikeyTrinitrogen then it is not in your sources.07:55
stjepanI think Ubuntu will be non-free one day.... :((((((((07:55
naliothubotu: tell sergey about mp307:55
sunshineit said it cant find mnt sunshine in etc fcstab or etc/mtab or am i meant to put in fred07:55
stjepannalioth: TOTALLY free?07:56
Trinitrogenintelikey, what sources should I add07:56
HappyFoolstjepan: why do you think that?07:56
naliothstjepan:  i dont. read mark shuttlesworths wiki page07:56
naliothstjepan: yes TOTALLY07:56
El_Chestjepan: yep07:56
intelikeyTrinitrogen universe & multiverse     i think.07:56
Fredsunshine: stop highlighting me! :P07:56
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darknaturehmm anyone here has falcons eye07:56
darknatureand having trouble when trying to load it07:57
sunshinefred im sorry i think nalioth was usinig u for example to help me07:57
stjepannalioth: are you sure? Ubuntu will always be non-commercial?07:57
sergeyit's not that important mp3 but I always used *nux as server i know little about multimedia stuff, an d i never managed to have sound and video at the same time :s07:57
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cjhcjhcjhsunshine, sorry, I got it the wrong way round. mount /dev/hda? /mnt/dirname   where ? is the device no, and dirname is something you made up but created...07:57
vengeful_its in universe07:57
stjepanmaybe there will be commercial and free ubuntu edition.....07:57
Fredsunshine: lol ok, d/w ;-)07:57
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naliothstjepan: mark shuttlesworth has written on his wiki that ubuntu will always be free07:58
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Buddha|Does anyone here use GNUstep?07:58
cjhcjhcjhwai07:58
Faw_anyone good with PAM authentication here? Need some help.07:58
cjhcjhcjh...can evolution download hotmail?07:58
intelikeysunshine  the mount command is "mount [options]  <device_node> <mount_point> "07:58
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XenguySOLVED: now loading 'xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap' via a shell script, using GNOMES's 'Startup Programs' dialogue.07:58
jXpxits a steam  version avialable 4 linux?07:59
stjepanhow much will I wait CDs?07:59
LasseLXenguy, that's what I do too07:59
TrinitrogenWhat command do I use to after I change my sources.list?08:00
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sunshinecjhcjhcjh it said when i put in mount /dev/hda cant find dev hda or etc mtab08:00
LasseLTrinitrogen, synaptic :)08:00
sunshinewhat do i do before that08:00
naliothTrinitrogen: apt-get update08:00
djm62Trinitrogen: aptitude update, if you're inclined to cli08:00
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cjhcjhcjhsunshine, /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 or whatever number it is08:00
jXpxits a steam  version avialable 4 linux?08:00
naliothsunshine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery08:00
djm62nalioth: is apt-get or aptitude preferred? (I thought aptitude did smarter things with unused packages)08:00
stjepanhow many CDs should I request? maximum??? :D08:01
naliothjXpx: please dont repeat so often08:01
TikroHello! Is it possible to resize ext3 partitions with qtparted?08:01
jXpxnalioth fuck u08:01
ericzhow can i play .wma files from rhythmbox? or is that possible?08:01
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naliothubotu: tell jXpx about conduct08:01
intelikeysunshine what exactly are you trying to do ?    looks like maybe you are trying to access an hd from a live cd or something ?08:01
lsuactiafnerstjepan : if you give all the cds to your friends08:01
florawhat is the easiest way to clone one hard disk to another of different size?08:02
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djm62stjepan: but if you can burn CDs, you could still give them to your friends08:02
djm62flora: different HW devices? you could use cp with the right switches08:02
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adommakedir?08:03
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floradjm62: yes two different hard disks, one has our "testing" config and the other hard disk will go into our production machine and i need to copy everything from testing over to it and be able to boot from it.08:03
lsuactiafnerflora : well, not a good idea really, but you could try copying all your data over and then running grub to write a master boot record to it, but it wont be easy08:03
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floralsuactiafner: i'm looking for the easy way :)08:03
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HappyFooladom: we need a bit of context ;)08:04
intelikeymkdir08:04
nightswim!rar08:04
ubotunightswim: Are you on ritalin?08:04
nightswimno08:04
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nightswimI want to install rar08:04
lsuactiafnerflora : a new install would be better, just copy /home to the new disk..08:04
nightswimthat's all08:04
ivarq: how do I install a .pcf font in breezy ?08:04
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cjhcjhcjhflora...I was keeping quiet...but "norton ghost" would work, no prob...but under win08:04
adomhappyfool what is the terminal command for creating a directory :)08:04
floralsuactiafner: what about all the libs, /etc/configs, mysql dbs, etc.08:04
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floracjhcjhcjh: ew ;)08:04
naliothadom: mkdir08:04
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cjhcjhcjhtrue story08:04
adomkewl08:04
trevisi cant seem to find the source of my kernel, so i cant install nvidia drivers08:05
HappyFoolwhere i can i find out more about the ubuntu server edition cd ?08:05
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Faw_I need to authenticate linux against using Kerberos, everything except login. There will only be one account in Linux, the other users will have no account. Anyone here know how to do it with PAM?08:05
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HappyFool!tell trevis about nvidia08:05
intelikeyadom if it is not in your home dir or a sub of that you will have to prepend sudo08:05
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lsuactiafnerflora : make a new install then, with a master boot record unless you want to read up on lilo and grub and live cds, but i would make a new install, then copy everything over and overwrite everything but /etc/grub-and-lilo-related and /boot08:05
sally_!tell sally_ about nvidia08:06
Neerlan_Amorimthe new Ubuntu breezy is good.... very good08:06
cjhcjhcjh...or ghost it...08:06
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xethornhello les gens08:06
xethornhi people ;)08:06
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djm62flora: cp, then chroot and grub-install08:07
lsuactiafnerflora : but make sure all the versions are compatible..08:07
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lsuactiafnerflora : you dont want a squid 1.0 conf and a squid 1000.2 mixing.. something like that08:07
xethornI need some help : I search the execute function on the menu (I just finish to install Ubuntu Breezy)08:07
djm62lsuactiafner: or am I missing something obvious there?08:07
lsuactiafnerflora : think djm62 has a good point08:07
xethornand I didin't find it08:08
tarekhello, i have juste discovered that i was writing text file encoded in utf8 and i need iso8859 : I have a question abuot that: how can i tell if a text file is utf8 or iso8859 ? second, how can i convert them and make ubutun do iso8859 by default08:08
intelikeydjm62 without editing /boot/grub/menu.lst   ?08:08
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kascheiCan someone help me get xorg working again, after hoary->breezy dist-upgrade? details here http://pastebin.com/39362308:08
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lsuactiafnernot that sure about chroot and the master boot record but i think thats a very good idea, better than mine08:08
cjhcjhcjhxethorn, what do you want? Accessories, Terminal?08:08
thespiritoftalhow can i contribute to ubuntu?08:08
lsuactiafneryou will need to edit grub08:08
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miksudamn managed to mess up my users. what to do?08:08
ericzhow can i play wma files in rhythmbox?08:08
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florahmmm ok so i can't just clone the contents of one disk to another?08:08
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xethornno, I just want to have the execute function, not the terminal, in which you can select one program08:08
djm62flora: you can, but there's tricky stuff with getting it to boot08:09
trevisi just followed that nvida driver install tutorial, but i get an error: "no screens found"08:09
miksucannot edit etc/group etc/passwd or use the users tool08:09
thespiritoftalyup08:09
thespiritoftalI love ubuntu08:09
lsuactiafnerflora : you can, but you need to know more about linux than most ppl, i will be able to do it after a bit of trouble and thinking.08:09
miksuok now i AM the root08:09
djm62flora: it might be hdc now, but it'll be hda in the real machine, and you need to configure grub to find the kernel on hda before you put it in08:09
miksustupid me08:09
trevistell me about nvidia08:09
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trevistell trevis about nvidia08:10
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intelikey!08:10
ubotuWish i knew, intelikey08:10
HappyFooltrevis: use !08:10
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VincentMXthespiritoftal, who doesn't?08:10
lsuactiafnerbbl08:10
trevis!tell trevis about nvidia08:10
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trevisthanks08:10
floradjm62: gotcha... thanks for the help08:10
intelikeytrevis /msg ubotu blah   works too08:10
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thespiritoftalI wonder if eating ubuntu CDs may cure cancer08:11
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kascheiCan someone help me get xorg working again, after hoary->breezy dist-upgrade and using new xorg-fglrx-driver package? details here http://pastebin.com/39362308:11
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alsyrhi everybody. i am new to ubuntu. I am having difficulty in running ubuntu on a emachines desktop t6412. ubuntu completely freezez on the splash screen. anybody had the same problem ? if so how did you solve it ?08:11
VincentMXthespiritoftal, i wouldn't try it08:11
VincentMX:D08:11
nalioththespiritoftal: eat 57kg of them at once, and you'll be cured of everything08:11
thespiritoftalhehe08:11
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thespiritoftal:)08:11
ericzdon't discourage him vincentmx08:11
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intelikeykaschei "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "08:12
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VincentMXericz, ok08:12
thespiritoftalok ship 57 kgs of ubuntu cds over here08:12
thespiritoftalI'll eat08:12
VincentMXgo thespiritoftal!08:12
thespiritoftal:D08:12
kascheiintelikey I have already tried that, what non-default options would you suggest I change?08:12
ericzif you do it thespiritoftal, tape it08:12
cjhcjhcjhflora http://linuxgazette.net/issue89/ward.html08:12
djm62or construct an archimedes death ray mirror08:12
VincentMXyeah08:12
andreas_I have installed 5.10 and now I need some sources to install mplayer, xine, mc, java and stuff. Where can I find more apt-get sources for 5.1008:12
LasseLkaschei, what happens?08:12
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Trinitrogenafter apt-get update I get the error "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: the following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Arvie Automatic Signige Key08:12
intelikeyexpert mode settings08:12
kascheiwhen I start?  It goes through boot process then screen blanks08:12
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lsuactiafnerandreas_ : i cant cope without mc and mplayer...08:13
andreas_best there is08:13
MachineScrewany one know about netboot installs08:13
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MachineScrewi am having a problem with tftp08:13
Sonderbladehow do you do to set xorg's dpi to 96x96?08:13
intelikeykaschei did you wait on it for about ten minutes ?08:13
Raynheksi have an acer 1691, new breezy installation, broadcom BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet card... i can see it.. activate it's eth1 interface but then i can get an IP address from the LAN... any help? ;_;08:13
ScatterBrainIs there a way that I can pull packages from a different source than the US archives?08:13
siucdudequestion i updated my windows version and now my ubuntu is gone?08:13
kascheiintelikey Not quite so long no08:13
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djm62Raynheks: you need DHCP?08:14
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sunshinenalioth i got kick out can u tell me what that website is again please.....08:14
intelikeyupgrade can take a few minutes.08:14
Raynhekshmm i choose that in the network settings08:14
DreamgliderMachineScrew i installed ubuntu 5.04 from net and upgraded to the final 5.10 release08:14
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miksu'pam authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info' when attempting to open as root. what to do? i have added myself to the root group in etc/passwd08:14
alsyrColonelKernel: memtest has been running for 14 hours now and no errors are reported08:14
djm62siucdude: windows overwrites the bootloader...can you get a liveCD on and chroot to do a grub-install?08:14
MachineScrewDreamglider: i am havin problems with tftp08:14
kascheiintelikey is there any way to take care of the main part of that when my tty is working?08:15
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DreamgliderMachineScrew,  Hang on i'll look up the url08:15
ColonelKernelalsyr, what speed is your CPU08:15
MachineScrewDreamglider: its timing out on my client08:15
Buddha|Are there any additional repositories available for Ubuntu?08:15
naliothsunshine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery08:15
kascheiOhhhh no08:15
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MachineScrewDreamglider: I have been to the sites08:15
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naliothubotu: tell Buddha| about sources08:15
btdownHaving problems with a gpg error on seveas. Any idea how to fix ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309408:15
siucdudedjm62: i followed some insturctions on rescue from cd but i get error gtk-warning08:15
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alsyrColonelKernel: 2,189 Mz08:16
djm62siucdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery08:16
xethornnobody can help me ?08:16
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djm62siucdude: those instructions?08:16
kascheiintelikey It seems to work, although very oddly, now that I changed "use kernel framebuffer" to enable08:16
alsyrColonelKernel: it is an athlon 6408:16
DreamgliderMachineScrew, did you download five disks and boot from them ?08:16
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chicken-manIs there any chat program that can connect to msn, based in terminal mode ?08:16
ColonelKernelalsyr, what video card are you using?08:16
siucdudedjm62:  no these http://ubuntuguide.org/#gainrootinstallcd and the section on install windows after08:16
intelikeykaschei go back and play with the rez and refresh some more.08:16
MachineScrewDreamglider: no my client dosn't have a floppy its booting from the eth008:17
Raynheksdjm62: should i only need the dhcp3-client and common?08:17
MachineScrewthis laptop is acting as the server08:17
alsyrColonelKernel: ati radeon xpress 20008:17
kascheiintelikey Thank you for your help08:17
tarekhow to guess the encoding of a text file ? is there any tool08:17
naliothsiucdude: ubuntuguide is not a good guide08:17
djm62Raynheks: I think so08:17
MachineScrewI am connected through a router08:17
naliothsiucdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery08:17
btdownubuntuguide is better than that lame wiki they have up08:17
ColonelKernelalsyr, what video driver are you using right now?08:17
djm62siucdude: yeah, ubuntuguide isn't recommended, the instructions on the wiki look pretty good to me08:18
DreamgliderMachineScrew, Oh i used the floppys to boot the pc the rest was like a normal CD install08:18
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starscallingcrap !_!08:18
starscallinghey08:18
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chicken-manIs there any chat program that can connect to msn, without using X ?08:18
starscallingi installed kbuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop08:18
alsyrColonelKernel: should i stop memtest ? ati, from what i can read on xorg.conf08:18
siucdudeeveryone:  how do i get a live cd, i only have the original08:18
djm62siucdude: and once you've done the chroot command, you want to do /sbin/grub-install08:18
intelikeytarek grep -m1 -ie"[a-z] " filename   and look for the id tag08:18
MachineScrewya I should have said PXE boot install08:18
naliothchicken-man: centericq08:18
starscallingnow when i try to open url's i get some kde error///08:18
jessid_Eppu I have already installed hdparm. i used -B 10 but i dont know if i have to do that every time i start the system or that data is kept somewhere08:18
djm62then type reboot or shutdown -are now08:18
starscallingi tried removing those packages..08:18
starscallingbut it doesnt look like its doing me any good..08:19
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ColonelKernelalsyr, yeah you should be safe to stop memtest - I would redo my xorg.conf and use the vesa driver until I get the ati driver from ati installed08:19
andreas_where can I find apt-get sources for 5.10?08:19
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naliothandreas_: releases.ubuntu.com/5.1008:19
siucdudedjm62: can this be done with regural cd i only have the original08:19
MachineScrewcan any one hellp me with a PXE boot install08:19
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starscallingthere was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE: the message returned by the system was:08:20
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djm62siucdude: um....not sure08:20
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DarkSeidhello folks08:20
chicken-manhi08:20
DarkSeidI am having a problem here with doing a dist-upgrade to breezy08:20
MachineScrewcan any one hellp me with a PXE boot install08:20
jessid_Eppu or it is beter if i edit directly /etc/hdparm.conf08:20
siucdudenalioth:  thank you will download live cd08:20
starscallingcould not read the network connection list08:20
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DarkSeidit keeps stopping at the "openoffice.org2-help-en-us" pkg08:20
siucdudedjm62: thank you08:20
DarkSeidno matter what flags I throw onto apt-get it still dies08:21
starscalling/home/usernamehere/.dcopserver_usernamehere__008:21
djm62siucdude: it's fixable, good luck08:21
djm62gtg08:21
MachineScrewcan any one hellp me with a PXE boot install08:21
starscallingwhat can i do to fully remove those packages?08:21
cjhcjhcjhhelp; after install various packages are missing; can I steal a list of apt-gets from somewhere torun and make sure its all there?08:21
DarkSeidany suggestions?08:21
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naliothcjhcjhcjh: the servers are experiencing a /. effect. try again later08:22
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cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, why pxeboot, pls describe what u are trying to do08:22
DarkSeidUnpacking openoffice.org2-help-en-us (from .../openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb) ...08:22
DarkSeiddpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):08:22
DarkSeid trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB', which is also in package openoffice.org2-calc08:22
DarkSeiddpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)08:22
DarkSeidErrors were encountered while processing:08:22
DarkSeid /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb08:22
DarkSeidE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:22
DarkSeidsorry for the scroll08:22
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sally_nvidia driver: "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" doesn't remove load GLcore and load dri lines in xorg.conf like the nvidia instructions say to.  why?08:22
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DarkSeidsorry about the flood08:22
DarkSeidthats the error I get08:22
DarkSeidand I am stuck there08:22
btdownHaving problems with a gpg error on seveas. Any idea how to fix the key? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309408:22
naliothDarkSeid: pastebin, please08:22
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ok look I need to do a PXE install because my cd drive took a crap and the usb thing dosn't work08:22
cjhcjhcjhnaolith no worries; i know; but how can I tell it what to get? It bombed earlier; I have a half-installed version, I have things missing but I don't know what; I want to make sure I have a nicely full version installed08:22
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naliothbtdown: disregard it or get the key from seveas server08:23
DarkSeidopenoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb08:23
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, do you have the install iso available?08:23
naliothcjhcjhcjh: it knows what to get08:23
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cjhcjhcjhnaolith do you have a bootable os?08:23
naliothDarkSeid: you can force that pkg if you wish08:23
DarkSeid--force-yes08:23
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: no but i have the breezy netboot08:23
DarkSeidbeen there tried that08:23
naliothcjhcjhcjh: bootable what?08:23
btdownnalioth: Will it hurt anything if I ignore it?08:23
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naliothDarkSeid: actually you'd use dpkg08:23
naliothbtdown: not a thing08:24
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: that sould alow me to install over the net right ?08:24
cjhcjhcjhnaolith can you boot the machine into any OS?08:24
DarkSeidooh ok lemme give it a shot08:24
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew,  yeah08:24
naliothcjhcjhcjh: i can boot into OSX or ubuntu08:24
btdownnalioth: and im not sure how to exactly get the key. Previously there was a pastable command on how to get/add it, but that page it gone. ;(08:24
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ok let me tell you where I am at08:24
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naliothDarkSeid: at the risk of destroying your home, use dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/problem/package08:24
starscallingnalioth:: when i installed packages kbuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop it installed a whole mess of things... and now my gnome defaults are not working correctly... what can i do to reverse that?08:25
naliothbtdown: i wouldnt worry about it08:25
alsyrColonelKernel: to use vesa, should i just change "ati" to "vesa" in xorg.conf or should i do more that that ? if so, what should i do ?08:25
starscallingis there a way to tell it to undo say the last 4 apt-get installs ?08:25
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: i fallowed the intstructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet08:25
naliothstarscalling: i'm not sure why it'd mess up your gnome settings08:25
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: minus the iso and that is about it08:25
starscallingthere was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE: the message returned by the system was:08:25
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btdownnalioth: ok thanks! feel much better now.08:25
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starscallingcould not read the network connection list08:25
starscalling/home/usernamehere/.dcopserver_usernamehere__008:25
foxgamerIs there an application that can check the intergity of my system? The only program that I am able to use without it crashing on me is this one at the mo :/08:26
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starscallingit seems to have tried to install someting i guess,.....08:26
starscalling!_!08:26
ubotustarscalling: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:26
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: the client detects the server then times out on TFTP08:26
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starscallingbread box?08:26
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BreezyInCalifGot a quick question about Breezy LiveCD - does it include both QtParted and tune2fs? I'm writing a how-to on expanding an ext3 partition08:27
naliothstarscalling: ubotu is a bot. when you preface your text with ! you are asking him to pay attention to you08:27
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DarkSeidwell so far so good08:27
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DarkSeidthat doesnt mean it'll work though, LOL08:27
starscallingo oops08:27
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cristianoate08:27
starscallingwel hopefully im not messing anything up further... but im installing gnome-desktop08:27
naliothBreezyInCalif: gparted and im not sure about tune2fs (one WOULD think it'd be in there to make ext2/3 partitions)08:27
starscallingperhaps it will reconfigure things when its done back correctly..08:27
piedoghelp please raid is making me insane. 1/2 :-)08:28
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Avenhi08:28
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naliothstarscalling: ubuntu-desktop would be better08:28
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: you still with me08:28
Avenok, I'm trying to get PHP again.. Synaptic says I have the package08:28
BreezyInCalifty nalioth - yes, one WOULD think so ... :) I could d/l and check it out, just didn't want to take the time if not necessary08:28
DarkSeiddid anyone test how breezy would do when doing a dist upgrade?08:28
Avenbut this is the erro I keep getting http://pastebin.com/39368008:28
aftertafhowdy nalioth :)08:28
Aven*error08:28
piedogrinstall config of raid failed on breezy08:28
kbrooksnalioth: tune2fs SHOULD be in, and it doesnt expand a fs08:28
naliothDarkSeid: worked fine for me08:28
starscallingnalioth:: i had that in before... i think it would just say up to date.. but ill apt-get that next then thanx :)08:28
BreezyInCalifAm I right in thinking gparted is just a front-end for parted?08:28
naliothaftertaf: howdy08:28
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, sorry I dont know enough to help with that. I would install another way...e.g. boot disk or cd if possible...failing that, install freeDos and ue loadlin08:29
starscallingbtw sup BreezyInCalif _o/08:29
naliothBreezyInCalif: correct08:29
BreezyInCalifhowdy starscalling :)08:29
DarkSeidI have a bare bones stock Hoary install and just wanted a breezy upgrade08:29
cjhcjhcjhs/ue/use/   and all IMHO08:29
aftertafnalioth: breezy +1 panic sorting itself out?08:29
DarkSeidand its blowing up everywhere08:29
starscallingyeah ok08:29
naliothaftertaf: very slowly08:29
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: look i don't have floppy drive08:29
piedogand mdadm is failing with busy devices and other funness08:29
starscallingi am going to try a log out and in of gnome08:29
aftertafi gathered that today at work08:29
BreezyInCalifkbrooks - yah, tune2fs doesn't change partitions, but you would need it to change ext3 fs to ext2 fs; parted doesn't operate happily on ext3 fs08:29
Avenso, can anyone help?08:29
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, I know...hence loadlin08:29
MachineScrewnor do I have a cdrom drive08:29
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cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, I know...can you get to a command prompt under DOS?08:30
starscallingwas there not some little proggie to get gnome // ubuntu to remember currently running programs for startups?08:30
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kbrooksBreezyInCalif: i tried gparted08:30
ubuntuguyanyone know how I can get firefox to tell me which plug-ins it has installed?08:30
kbrooksand it worked08:30
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kbrooksperfectly08:30
El_Chestarscalling: just close your session (log out) and choose to save08:30
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: my cddrive failed while installing ubuntu08:30
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intelikeywell aftertaf that would be a cool job for the first three days....... ;/08:30
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jacksteri got a little prob w breezy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7594408:31
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: i have a grub error08:31
aftertafyeah intelikey totally :)08:31
jacksteranyone got any hints?08:31
annexubuntuguy: got to this address in firefox: about:plugins08:31
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naliothAven: when you upgrade/install to your box, you need to use sudo08:31
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, so you can only network boot?>08:31
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: I have also tried swaping hds but this laptop is too old08:31
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ya look like it08:31
kbrooksBreezyInCalif: can you read what i say?08:31
ubuntuguyannex: thank you08:31
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aftertafjackster: are you in console now?08:32
BreezyInCalifkbrooks - yes - just slow typing08:32
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: I can't boot from usb eather08:32
jacksterno, gnome-failsafe, aftertaf08:32
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Jedrickwhat's the command in terminal to see the diskspace of your disk?08:32
annexno problem08:32
BreezyInCalifkbrooks - tried gparted for what, specifically? If I can skip the tune2fs steps (to remove and restore the journaling for ext3) that would simplify things08:32
aftertafjackster: retype this . sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade08:32
naliothJedrick: du -h08:32
manuelmjsf1hello08:32
Jedrickk thnx08:32
aftertafjackster: pastebin the error08:32
jacksterok08:32
kbrooksBreezyInCalif: creating a partition08:32
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kbrookstwo specifically08:32
BreezyInCalifkbrooks - OK, cool08:32
kbrooksand then i resized it08:32
DarkSeidwell it's still chewing through the unpacking process08:32
rikaierr, i'm having a very very minor problem with breezy at the moment.08:32
intelikeyoh hd boot error MachineScrew ?08:32
BreezyInCalifkbrooks - ext3?08:33
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kbrooksBreezyInCalif: iirc yes08:33
kbrookslet me check08:33
foxgamerIs anyone else having problems running their programs?08:33
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: funny this laptop is a 266MHz P2 and I am trying to install on a P4 2.0 GHz08:33
MachineScrewintelikey: yes08:33
intelikeytell me what ya got, i'll see what i can come up with.08:33
MachineScrewintelikey: you know any thing about PXE Netboot installs08:33
kbrooksyes08:33
rikaiW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:33
rikai <-- when using synaptic/apt with my fresh breezy install, it's throwing out this error at me... any tips?08:33
Jedrickdude i mean free space on the disk08:33
kbrooksits ext308:33
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, lol....so do did you enable tftp and put some bootable image there?08:33
BreezyInCalifkbrooks - My experience with QtParted - which is also just a front-end for parted - was that resizing ext3 was not possible; I had to use tune2fs to convert the ext3 fs to ext2, tnen resize, then use tune2fs again to convert back to ext308:34
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ya08:34
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cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, and restart tftpd?08:34
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naliothrikai: disregard. the servers are hammered atm, and it will sort itself out08:34
MachineScrewintelikey: work with cjhcjhcjh08:34
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rikainalioth, i figured it'd be something of that sort, just wanted to make sure, thanks.08:34
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MachineScrewboth intelikey and cjhcjhcjh help me please get me off of this pice of shit laptop and back on mine08:35
kbrooksBreezyInCalif: gparted worked for me. gparted uses all tools avail08:35
aftertafjackster: same goes here, if you get gpg errors with update, disregard ....08:35
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naliothkbrooks: qtparted uses ntfsprogs, which gparted does not08:35
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ya restarted the whole damned computer justs for shits and giggles08:35
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cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, how far does the netboot get at the moment? does it get an ip address?08:35
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intelikeyPXE Netboot out of my league, but hd boot we should be able to do something with.   are you duel booting or what ?08:36
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jacksteraftertaf, so wot do i do to get normal gnome back?08:36
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MachineScrewintelikey: no os what so ever08:36
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ya I get an IP08:36
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MachineScrewintelikey: no flp no usb08:36
MachineScrewintelikey: only eth08:37
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MachineScrewintelikey: no cdrom eather08:37
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jackster???08:37
MachineScrewintelikey: problem with tftp server i think08:37
DarkSeidok the unpacking is done and now the upgrade is starting08:38
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aftertafjackster: run the command i said and report the error.08:38
starscallingeh08:38
starscallingok08:38
starscallingso i definately messed something up08:38
DarkSeidholding breath / crossing fingers08:38
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starscallingi cant even start a session08:38
jacksteraftertaf: that was the error i got08:38
BreezyInCalifkbrooks and nalioth - just did a quick look-see on gparted; it looks as if it uses different back-end tools than QtParted and so may be an easier tool for resizing ... maybe I don't need to write this up at all08:38
jacksterW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:38
jacksterW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:38
starscallingthe error i get is .ICEsomething cant be accessed08:38
aftertafjackster: it doesnt matter. run dist-upgrade again08:38
jacksterok08:38
aftertafstarscalling: rm it!08:38
starscallinghow08:39
aftertafstarscalling: rm .ICEauthority08:39
intelikeyok.  it is out of my realmn MachineScrew.  i know nothing about networking and i would be totally unarmed in that battel of witts.    so let me bow out gracefully now.08:39
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starscallingi cannot log into even failsafe gnome aftertaf08:39
naliothstarscalling: easy. hit ctrl-alt-f3 and log in. rm the .ICEauthority in your home folder and then hit ctrl-alt-f7 and log in08:39
aftertafstarscalling: CTL+ALT+F1 : console login08:39
aftertafor what nalioth said :)08:39
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inthenowello08:39
aftertafnalioth: yeah right.... panic +1 :D08:40
starscallingok ill try ti!08:40
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inthenowthe fan on my motherboard is dead...the computer seems to be running fine...should action be taken. i tried to clear dust from the fan. The motherboard is nf7-s 2.008:41
jacksteraftertaf, ran dist-upgrade, didnt get any error, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:41
Dr_Willisyou need a fan08:41
zcat[1] inthenow: get a new fan. They're cheap. CPU's aren't so cheap.08:41
Dr_Willisyou mean the fan on the cpu? or a little fan on the mb?08:41
El_Cheinthenow: yes. By a new fan or you may fry your cpu08:41
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DarkSeidnalioth so far so good08:41
aftertafjackster: ok. but X doesn't work? WHat is your gfx card?08:41
jacksternVidia GeForce FX 590008:42
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inthenowUNDERSTAND. The fan is on the motherboard. It is built into the motherboard. the fan does not run.08:42
jacksterX does work, but only in failsafe08:42
Buddha|Why is the latest version of Enlightenment 16 not available through apt?08:42
inthenowDr_Willis: on the MB08:42
Dr_Willishmm. that may not be as bad.08:43
DarkSeidBuddha I believe it is08:43
zcat[1] hmmm.. did it ever run? perhaps it's thermostatically controlled and only comes on when things are hot?08:43
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DarkSeide17 isnt though08:43
intelikeyThe fan is on the motherboard. It is built into the motherboard. <---- now is it on it or in it ?08:43
BreezyInCalifkbrooks & nalioth - smne here the other day suggested I write up the resizing as a how-to for the wiki, but I'm thinking maybe that is unnecessary, if gparted "just works" ... ?08:43
starscallingoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo08:43
inthenowintelikey: in it08:43
Dr_Willisproberly a chipset fan, or a northbridge/southbridge fan. Hmm.08:43
BreezyInCalifstarscalling - I've seen that reaction somewhere but not in this kind of a channel <g> ... s'up?08:43
starscalling<3 nalioth && aftertaf08:43
bpfi got e17 to work, but then forgot why I thought it was so cool and switched back to gnome :)08:43
da_bon_bonis archive.ubuntu.com still slow ? my max download speed is 27 - 30 kbps .. is it slower than that ?08:44
naliothBreezyInCalif: it doesnt 'just work" it doesnt use ntfsprogs. qtparted DOES use ntfsprogs (we can't forget ntfsresize, can we?)08:44
inthenowintelikey: it can be taken out....this is a emergency thermo fan?08:44
starscallingslower bpf08:44
starscalling~18 avg here08:44
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, sorry for delay there, please try http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install08:44
naliothda_bon_bon: still slow08:44
DarkSeidI use Gnome when no one is lookig then switch to K to ooh and aaah my co workers08:44
bpfstarscalling, what?08:44
zcat[1] I spent ages trying to 'fix' the fan on a 2nd hand laptop I have; eventually I figured out it'll start up if I leave the keyboard covered for a while and let things heat up. Otherwise the chip runs cool enough that it diesn't need the fan :)08:44
starscallingspeeds08:44
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rikaierr, is thre an easy way to restore the default sources.list for breezy?08:44
starscalling:08:44
da_bon_bonnalioth: :( seems that i will have to update on sunday, then ..08:44
starscalling:)08:44
zcat[1] *doesn't08:44
djjasonIs it possible to grant users anonymous scp access to a folder on my machine?08:44
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jackster..08:45
da_bon_bonnalioth: btw, on breezy final, does "About Ubuntu" work ?08:45
jackster...08:45
cjhcjhcjhrikai edit it, the defaults are all there, just commented with #08:45
naliothubotu: tell rikai about sources08:45
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BreezyInCalifnalioth - point taken, but was specifically interested in ext3 resiz8ing, just b/c it was a problem for me08:45
BreezyInCalifresizing, even ^08:45
sorush20can someone explain an error to me please?08:45
tencocan someone help me with pdflatex and kpdf/xpdf?08:45
naliothBreezyInCalif: if you're gonna write something, you have to include something for all folks, right?08:45
intelikeyinthenow i've removed non-working cpu fans before and pointed an extra case fan at the cpu heat sync.  for a "ad hoc" use of course.....08:45
HappyFoolto my mind, "scp" and "anonymous" don't really go together. why not use http or ftp instead?08:46
naliothda_bon_bon: not yet08:46
rikaicjhcjhcjh, err, i accidentally ran the 'Easy Ubuntu' script, which modified sources.list, and i'm not sure which modifications are added by it, and which are the originals.08:46
tencopdflatex with koma-script08:46
HappyFooltenco: what's the problem?08:46
da_bon_bonnalioth: what ?! not even on fresh or cd-installs ?08:46
rikainalioth, thank you, yet again. :P08:46
bpfwhat are the major talking points to using e17?08:46
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da_bon_bonrikai: the script doesnt harm.. :)08:46
piedogHappyFool: scponly does anon scp08:47
tencoHappyFool: when i make pdf-files with pdflatex (and koma-script package), the fonts are displayed in an ugly way in kpdf and xpdf08:47
jacksterwell?#08:47
tencoHappyFool: e.g. an "z" isnt as tall as an "u"08:47
Buddha|DarkSeid - The latest version I see in Synaptic is 16.6, but the latest version is 16.808:47
tenco*a08:47
sorush20can somone explain an error to me please?http://rafb.net/paste/results/HBI9ts34.html08:47
budluvaanyone figure out the usplash problem yet?08:47
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starscallingin kde i get "could not start process. Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'system'08:48
starscallingwhats that all about !_!08:48
bpfBuddha| or starscalling, what is good/different about e17?08:48
tencoHappyFool: so the text is displayed very bumpy08:48
HappyFooltenco: hmm. maybe try 'acroread' instead, or ask in #latex for more08:48
tencoHappyFool: *looks bumpy08:48
starscallingthen same for trash08:48
tencoHappyFool: ok08:48
HappyFooltenco: yeah, like ps2pdf sometimes does too08:48
Buddha|bpf - It's completely redesigned.  I don't like it.  That's why I was asking about E16.08:48
tencoHappyFool: but i used pdflatex directly. and its printed out with pretty fonts08:49
bpfBuddha|, what do you like about e16?08:49
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naliothbpf: join #elive and ask08:49
HappyFooltenco: i'm not a texnician. but i know these font display issues happen fairly often08:49
Sonderbladeanyone else have problems with getting the msttcorefonts to render correctly in breezy?08:49
Hoxzersomebody here has configured mytht tv to ubuntu?08:49
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chicken-manany one know a good 2D CAD program that can run without X ?08:49
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tencoHappyFool: so it must have sth to do with the kpdf/xpdf backend, because the cups backend seems to get it right08:50
intelikeysorush20 hotplug ?    should already be install by default08:50
Buddha|bpf - it's attractive and uncluttered, easy to configure, and it has nice themes08:50
HappyFooltenco: the LaTeX faq discusses it too08:50
manulitehi, wen running ubuntu-live, how do u mount hdds on the machine?08:50
rikaierr, correct me if i'm wrong, but, didnt the mirrormax backports bite the dust?08:50
HappyFooltenco: well, you might find acroread will display it funny but print it correctly -- that used to happen to me often08:50
chicken-manmanulite: edit fstab08:50
tencoHappyFool: ok. :) thx for your help, then.08:50
HappyFooltenco: especially if using non-standard fonts, though this has gotten better lately08:50
manulitehmm...08:51
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cjhcjhcjhrikai sources is local to your machine...locale and all...you could copy from someone, but everyone is different locale08:51
kiwibirdum..what do i do when i get a bunch of dependency problems during dist-upgrade?08:51
chicken-manany one know a good 2D CAD program that can run without X ?08:51
sorush20intelikey: it is install and there is a script in the usb folder for the hotplug, I even restart the hotplug system but no use.. really..08:51
naliothkiwibird: if you've recently gotten them, try again later (breezy is causinga server slowdown on a major scale)08:52
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aftertafBuddha|: DarkSeid  or cvs e17 0.16.999x :)08:52
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rikaicjhcjhcjh, hm?08:52
flagfrancahello people08:52
kiwibirdhum... i've got the cd though, and it's the same packages all the time..08:52
naliothchicken-man: use your resources. http://packages.ubuntu.com or in a terminal "apt-cache search bleh"08:52
naliothchicken-man: also sourceforge.net has many programs of all kinds08:52
intelikeysorush20 so then why are you trying to build from source hotplug ?         sorry i don't understand.08:53
kiwibirdpostfix, lsb, mutt, mailx, lsb-foo08:53
chicken-manhmmm i was hoping i would not have to do any searching LOL :-P08:53
siucdudenalioth:  one more question08:53
flagfrancaCan anyone help me install skype for linux? All the time its saying theres missing some specific lib file and I simply cannot find the missing lib in the repos.....08:53
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Dr_Willischicken-man,  may have to track down an old dos-copy of autocad and use dosbox08:53
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siucdudenalioth: i now got my ubuntu working but my windows is missing i checked for how to put it into grubu but it did not work08:54
cjhcjhcjhrikai you could put these lines in...but you would be getting source from japan...deb http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted...deb-src ftp://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted08:54
Dr_Willisold-autocad... *shudder*08:54
intelikeyskype isn't that something like bittorrent ?08:54
chicken-manDr_Willis my computer wont run DOS-Box too slow :-)08:54
cjhcjhcjhrikai, change the urls to your locale later...but it will work ;-)08:54
Dr_Willischicken-man,  egads...08:54
jrattner1Where can I read the information about how to get windows NTFS to mount automatically?08:54
naliothsiucdude: all i can say is edit your menu.lst08:54
naliothubotu: tell jrattner1 about ntfs08:54
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flagfrancanope....skype is a VoIP application08:54
Dr_Willischicken-man,  time to get out the paper and scale and other tools.08:54
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sampanflagfranca  which lib file?08:54
intelikey!tell flagfranca about skype08:54
Plukhow can i disable multiple sounds with alsa.. it screws up lipsync in mplayer :(08:55
sampan!tell sampan about skype08:55
nightswim!acroread08:55
ubotuI haven't a clue, nightswim08:55
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nightswim!acrobat08:55
ubotunightswim: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:55
da_bon_boncan i install the livecd onto the computer /08:55
da_bon_bon?08:55
sorush20I have a very odd printer called laser jet 1000 and here is a good link for a how to install, I have managed to install on a number ocassions but this is the new error that I am getting... here is the link to the how to,.http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php?title=Adding_an_HP_LaserJet_1000_to_Linux&printable=yes&printable=yes08:55
siucdudenalioth: i did it with the defult settings that i found in wiki but it did not load08:55
da_bon_bonlol, nightswim08:55
flagfrancasampan: let me check08:55
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nightswimthe bot never understands me08:55
starscallingeh08:55
naliothsiucdude: i have no experience with grub or lilo (i dont own intel boxen)08:55
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siucdudenalioth: never mind it just worked thank you again08:56
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flagfrancasampan:libqt3c102-mt08:57
sorush20could somone please add this page to the official ubuntu wiki, I'm not registered officially, http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php?title=Adding_an_HP_LaserJet_1000_to_Linux&printable=yes&printable=yes08:57
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aftertafsorush20: anyone can edit a wiki, get registered ;p08:57
flagfrancasampan: its said that libqt3-mt in Ubuntu replace it but its not true08:57
kevogodThat is indeed the purpose of a Wiki. :-)08:57
sorush20aftertaf: I can't do you have to edit with launchpad.com08:58
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jrattner1I'm also having trouble with removable media, when I insert my jump drive  a page in conqueror comes up saying: The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.08:58
intelikeyaftertaf even non-ubuntu users ?08:58
sampanflagfranca, yeah -- when i installed skype, i had to make a symlink from a package with the same name (but with a lot of extra 0.0.1 or something at the end) to that -- then skype worked fine08:58
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sally_I installed mozilla-mplayer but when I click on a video link in firefox totem comes up, how  do I make it use mplayer?08:59
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graabeindang! errors occured during dist-upgrade08:59
sampanflagfranca, i did install the ubuntu (hoary) libqt3-mt package though ... but then still needed to do the symlink08:59
GNAMausauaua08:59
GNAMdist-upgrade08:59
sampanworks perfect though08:59
sorush20success thanks guys..09:00
naliothgraabein: the servers are hammered atm, try again later09:00
intelikeysally_ did you try right click and choose open with     or is that even an option ?09:00
graabeinbut this is after ive downloaded stuff... it is the configuration part afterwards?09:00
sbartleylinuxI am trying to get XFce4 and xdm to work on a Breezy Server install.  Installed packages, rebooted.  Get text login.  startx brings up black screen, no gui.  Any ideas?09:01
naliothgraabein: not all your things may have d/l09:01
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naliothsbartleylinux: did you install "xubuntu-desktop"  ?09:01
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Hoxzerwhat is a good C++ compiler for ubuntu?09:01
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sally_intelikey, that's not an option, cnn.com uses javascript to launch their videos09:01
naliothHoxzer: gcc09:01
sbartleylinuxnalioth, nope. will do right now.09:01
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calamarihi09:01
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flagfrancasampan: Im reading a howto here....wow, its almost a saga to make that thing work in Ubuntu ;)09:02
sally_does totem not suck for everyone else?09:02
intelikeyi see09:02
HappyFoolHoxzer: g++ ? (install 'build-essential')09:02
uibreezy is great09:02
bpfcan one install all 3 of gnome, kde and xfce and easily switch between them?09:02
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intelikeybpf yes09:02
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graabeinallright... so ill just keep doing apt-get dist-upgrade -f then... cause i got this; unpacking replacement mono-utils... python-wxversion... E: sub-process ... returned an error code09:02
sampanflagfranca, hehehe -- it wasn't so bad for me, but then again, i use kubuntu-desktop, so that made it a little easier.  the symlink was the only thing that was weird for me09:02
calamarimy hoary crashed yet again, now when I boot I have no desktop icons (or wallpaper, just brown).. ~/Desktop does have all my stuff.  Also, right clicking on the desktop has no effect.  What could be doing this?09:03
bpfintelikey, thanks09:03
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intelikeyand icewm and twm and others as well bpf09:03
sbartleylinuxnalioth, that must not be part of the xfce4 dependency tree then?09:03
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cjhcjhcjhcalamari, why not just upgrade to breezy?09:03
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naliothsbartleylinux: it is a virtual package09:03
calamaricjhcjhcjh: I will, but I want to fix this first09:03
bpfintelikey, i am not familiar with those. is there a url with any screenshots comparing the various window managers?09:03
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DarkSeidwell hete goes the reboot09:03
villerhow to update to breezy through synaptic?09:03
sbartleylinuxnalioth, k. unfamiliar with those.09:04
DarkSeidwish me luck09:04
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intelikeybpf i'm sure there is but you can google for it as good as i can,  or probably a lot better, cause i'm on dialup.09:04
naliothsbartleylinux: a 'virtual package' is one that installes a plethora of pkgs to make a complete install of something09:04
sbartleylinuxnalioth, I installed x-window-system-core, xdm, xfce4.  That is all I needed for 5.04.09:04
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sbartleylinuxlearn something new every day.:)09:05
sbartleylinuxthx.09:05
calamariwhat program handles the desktop?  is it gnome-panel or something else?09:05
naliothsbartleylinux: ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop all pull in the components necessary to have those desktop environments on your box09:05
bpfintelikey, yes, just wondered if you knew any offhand. i will happily search myself09:05
graabeinnalioth, can i paste you the error message i got?09:05
El_Checalamari: nautilus09:05
nightswim!java09:05
ubotuwell, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:05
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sbartleylinuxnalioth, perfect. thx.09:05
xfelonKDE or Gnome?09:05
intelikeybpf no sorry, i dont.09:05
villerhow to update to breezy through synaptic?09:05
naliothgraabein: surely09:05
calamariEl_Che: thanks.. I now have a desktop09:05
intelikeysearch google.com/linux09:06
calamariEl_Che: where is nautilus loaded from?09:06
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: sory09:06
El_Checalamari: gdm09:06
villerhow to update to breezy through synaptic?09:06
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MachineScrewgot disconected09:06
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, np, how goes it?09:06
villerHow to update to breezy??09:06
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MachineScrewstill the same09:06
nooky59hi there09:06
kyncaniviller: read /topic09:06
naliothubotu: tell viller about upgrade2breezy09:06
naliothubotu: tell nightswim about javadeb09:07
nooky59is there someone who manage to get sound working with a card based on snd-hda-intel on Breezy ?09:07
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villersorry i don't know too much09:07
lizoucan anyone tell me how to install win32Codec on Ubuntu?09:07
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^PeLoS^hjhgj09:07
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: I am realy board this is also why I am trying to do this09:07
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villerubuntu sites are so slow today :(09:07
sunshineyes09:07
naliothubotu: tell lizou about w32codecs09:07
MachineScrewdamn PXE-E32:TFTP open timeout09:08
jrattner1Nalioth: When inserting my removable jump drive ii get this error: the file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.  Does that mean simply that I should create that folder or does it have to do with /dev/sda*09:08
sunshinenow how do i find out where the root of the file system resides09:08
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: that is the exact error09:08
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sunshinei tried sudo su -09:08
naliothjrattner1: create it09:08
jrattner1nalioth, sounds good : )09:08
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intelikeyi have a lame question,   i've seen lots of howto upgrade to breezy; but could someone tell me, if i had hoary installed and working perfectly, WHY up grade to breezy ?09:08
sunshinemount /dev/ hda1 /mnt and it say you must specify the filesystem type09:08
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, did u c the url I pasted?09:08
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sandollarnalioth do ya have something on nvidia drivers cause i cant get mine to work09:09
nooky59is there someone who manage to get sound working with a card based on snd-hda-intel on Breezy ?09:09
sunshineand when i type chroot /mnt09:09
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^PeLoS^olaps09:09
sunshineit say no file or diroctory09:09
Almindorhow do I enable localhost to use mysql?09:09
naliothubotu: tell sandollar about nvidia09:09
sunshineplease help someone09:09
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starscallingkubuntu-deskktop kinda nice :P09:09
nooky59I've recompiled the driver from the WIKI instruction else hotplug freeze09:09
villerdo i need to download the iso to upgrade?09:09
starscallingnvidiia?09:09
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nooky59my card seems to be detected, i have set the volume to the max09:09
nooky59i've unmutted channels09:09
sunshinenow how do i find out where the root of the file system resides09:10
cjhcjhcjhsunshine what is it you are trying to mount, again?09:10
naliothubotu: tell viller about upgrade2breezy09:10
calamariEl_Che: thanks again for your help09:10
nooky59but there is no sound both from the speakers and headphone :(09:10
calamarirebooting09:10
sunshinemy whole system09:10
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: no09:10
intelikeysunshine fdisk -l09:10
cjhcjhcjhsunshine...and what is it...fat32? ntfs?09:10
cjhcjhcjhMachineScrew, http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install09:10
naliothsunshine: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l" as in the letter L09:10
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villeri allready visited the link but that doesn't inform me09:11
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starscallingsudo apt-get install nvidia-gllx09:11
MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: ya i did i was just there it has me doing the same thing09:11
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naliothviller: no need for the ISO, just a network connection09:11
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MachineScrewcjhcjhcjh: one person had the same problem09:11
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andrownzhey, i've just tested ubuntu breezer. I wonder what ubuntu uses to auto mount everything like that so easily? like usbdrives, ipod, etc .. whenever I plug-in something, it appears on desktop. no autofs, no automount, hotplug script? tell me :)09:11
starscallingsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:11
starscalling:)09:11
nooky59noone for the sound ?09:11
villernalioth: but what does "Edit/Add CD-ROM" mean?09:11
starscallingthat got my nvidia working awesome09:11
nooky59it's veri frustrating, I've tried the forums but without luck09:12
lizouhow to get the newer version of lyx 1.3.609:12
nooky59s/veri/very/ ;)09:12
naliothviller: if you wish to upgrade from the ISO, be my guest, but you dont have to09:12
sunshinenalioth i di what u said it has /dev/hda1 system linux /dev/hda2 estended and /hdahda5 linux swap09:12
TWhi all, anyone have problem with kde and the automounting of the usb disk or key?09:13
Plukhow can i disable multiple sounds with alsa.. it screws up lipsync in mplayer :(09:13
cjhcjhcjhnalioth, can you tell me, which file lists the apt-get that the standard install does?09:13
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villernalioth: sorry i didn't read everything, i'm so stupid, i'm embarrased of myself09:13
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RiddellTW: known problem, I'm fixing it onw09:13
Riddellnow09:13
sunshinewhat do i do now09:14
intelikeypluk sudo alsa-ctl   maybe09:14
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jrattner1nalioth, after creating /mediia/sda1 I still get the same error09:14
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inthenowhello09:14
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cjhcjhcjhsunshine; please explain what systems are on your machine; what do you want to access?09:14
intelikeyalsa-<tab-key>09:14
nooky59is there someone who manage to get sound working with a card based on snd-hda-intel on Breezy ?09:15
naliothjrattner1: i'm not too sure about mounting usb sticks09:15
anonnonxsupplicant config file says most fields are deprecated (even the ones listed in default cfg)! does anyone know the proper fields for the config?09:15
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inthenowim having trouble with pppoe...it wont work at boot and i have to use pppoeconf everytime the computer starts09:15
jrattner1nalioth, previously it mounted perfectly in hoary09:15
naliothjrattner1: lots of things have changed in breezy09:15
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bpfany thinkpad users in here? i have an x40 and I don't think the suspend/hibernate is working properly09:15
TWRiddell: do you think that i can find it in a next upgrade of packets?09:16
sunshineok i gedit /lib/lsb/init-functions now my computer would not boot it said i have syntax error on this file it sa y i need to manually repair i was told there is a way i can mount my hd with this live cd i'm on my system is breezy09:16
xfelonHow do I get my thumb button on my house to work with ubuntu?09:16
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intelikeyinthenow what ever command you have to run to get it working you can put in one of the startup scripts in /etc/rc*/09:16
pderdo i need a computer to use ubuntu?09:16
sunshinenalioth i di what u said it has /dev/hda1 system linux /dev/hda2 extended and /hdahda5 linux swap09:16
fredforfaenpder lol09:16
naliothsunshine: join #kubuntu-offtopic09:17
cjhcjhcjhok sunshine cd /mnt   mkdir /lin    mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/lin09:17
nooky59noone having a Centrio based with an HDA Intel based on 657 persons from the channel09:17
nooky59arghhhh :o(09:17
jrattner1ubotu tell me about ndiswrapper09:18
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nooky59noone = no one ! sorry ;)09:18
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intelikeyinthenow you know anything about sysVinit ?09:18
pderI TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE CRAP09:18
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bored2kI just installed an nvidia riva tnt2 on my box and lost X, how would i get it back?! :(09:18
nicklasHi. I'm installing a program, and i'm going to do this: run "make install" from the top of the package directory. But when typing it in the terminal it says command not found?09:18
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HappyFoolnot unlike your english09:18
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cjhcjhcjhpder, and all your base are belong to me, I expect09:19
Kyralnicklas, install build-essential09:19
pderHappyFool: I SPEAK ENGRISH09:19
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tristanmikepder, no need to use caps here09:19
El_Chepder: I TRYD YOR MOMMA AND SHE SUCK09:19
El_Che:)09:19
nooky59very frustrating ! it won't be good to be obliged to go back to SuSE 10 where the sound work09:19
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inthenowintelikey: no i dont know anything about sysvinit09:19
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illissiusis there any way/where I could download packages for different kernel versions than what's in breezy? (i'm having some network problems with i've read could be kernel related)09:19
nooky59else Breezy seems very nice09:19
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intelikeynicklas  you will need to install as root   try "sudo make install"09:20
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lizoucan anyone tell me how to get the newest version of lyx 1.3.609:20
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illissiusnooky59: i'm assuming you tried modprobe snd-hda-intel?09:20
marcus^any nice tutorials on how to run WINXP and Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 (dualboot) ?09:20
intelikeyinthenow type "runlevel" and see what runlevel you are in and choose that level09:20
HappyFoollizou: if it's not in the repositories, easiest is probably to install from source09:20
Fahanyone having issues with java segfaulting on breezy?09:21
marcus^shall i just make a new partition?09:21
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starscalling57% [2 j2re1.4 11843192/22.5MB 52%]                               20.5kB/s 9m52s09:21
bettong_BOFHi just bought a belkin wireless nic and ubuntu can see it in the device manager but i can't seem to get it to run can anyone help?09:21
intelikeyls /etc/rc<whateverrunlevel>.d/09:21
Bournemarcus^: Do a google search for it, the first few hits are How to's09:21
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cjhcjhcjhmarcus 1) grab partiton magic and free up at least 3gb...2) boot the install CD...is all09:21
naliothubotu: tell pder about conduct09:22
inthenowintelikey: whats a run level?09:22
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bored2kI just installed an nvidia riva tnt2 on my box and lost X, how would i get it back?! :(09:22
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pdernalioth: what did i do?09:22
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naliothpder: just something to read09:22
LoststarHello09:22
tristanmike!tell marcus^ about dualboot09:22
nooky59illissius : yes ;) of course ;)09:22
HappyFoolbored2k: tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?09:22
bettong_BOFHso anyone have any idea?09:22
nooky59I've recompiled alsa driver from alsa-source the debian way with make-kpkg09:23
inthenowintelikey: what do i put in that folder? has a bunch of S#name files09:23
nooky59because the stock snd-hda-intel freeze hotplug at boot09:23
bored2kHappyFool: i'm trying to install nvidia-glx first with no luck so far :/ . that's my next step09:23
Bourne !tell Bourne about dualboot09:23
illissiusnooky59: don't know then... just know it didn't automatically load the module for mine either09:23
Bournecool09:23
siucdudequestion i get error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 i have googled for anwsers but nothing, i can boot into ubuntu but windows gives me that error.09:23
cjhcjhcjhbettong_BOFH, not much ideas...does it show up in ifconfig?09:23
lizoui am a newbie, can you tell where to find the repositories and source?09:23
pderis ubuntu better than debian?09:23
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HappyFool!tell lizou about repos09:23
bettong_BOFHcjhcjhcjh,  let me check09:23
_jason!tell lizou about repos09:23
naliothubotu: tell lizou about sources09:23
bpfpder, yes09:23
nooky59then installing the resulting .deb package, my card is seen, I can set it up from alsamixer and gnome sound applet09:24
cuscohi Im running hoary livecd09:24
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cuscobut for quite some hours now09:24
naliothlizou: source code is at http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.1009:24
Loststari want to try ubuntu  so i am looking for a program  that will let me upload files  to  my  gmail acount  then get  them back after i install  ubuntu anyone know of a program that can do this09:24
villerit's so hard to even update09:24
nooky59but even when putting volume to the max and unmutting channel, there is no sound09:24
HappyFoollizou: you'll need to get the source from lyx's website; however, compiling from source is moderately complicated09:24
cuscoif I exec free09:24
pder!tell HappyFool about conduct09:24
cusco19:23 Mem:        499928     496864       3064          0     124384      2847609:24
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nooky59thanks anyway illissius09:24
cuscohow do I flush the memory?09:24
intelikeyinthenow techy stuff.   do this "sudo gedit /etc/rcS.d/usb "   and at the end of that file just before it says " exit 0 "   add the command that starts your pppoe stuff and save and exit.  that way it will start on boot for you.09:24
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bettong_BOFHcjhcjhcjh,  no it does not although the computer has detected it correctly09:24
villercan any breezy user paste me his/her sources.list?09:24
naliothubotu: tell viller about sources09:24
villermy list is messed up and it doesn't work09:24
tristanmike!tell viller about sources09:25
marcus^viller: sure.. gedit09:25
pder!tell viller about conduct09:25
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xfelonhey09:25
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xfelonhow do i get "repos"?09:25
_jason!tell xfelon about repos09:25
cjhcjhcjhbettong_BOFH, if its not loaded into ifconfig, its not loaded the drivers...and thats about the limit of my knowledge on this...hope to point you in the right direction, sounds like you need an insmod for it09:25
pder!tell xfelon about repos09:25
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intelikeyinthenow can you handle that ?09:25
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bettong_BOFHcjhcjhcjh, insmod?09:26
xfelonthanks09:26
pder!tell bettong about insmod09:26
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siucdudequestion i get error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x709:26
Dessimat0rme too09:26
Dessimat0rI just came into ask about it09:26
kyle_is there any way to ugrade to the newist version without reinstalling the OS?09:26
Dessimat0r<Dessimat0r> Hi, I have a problem with GRUB -- I'm getting Error: Unknown filesystem type or somesuch on ext3 and reiserfs partitions09:26
Dessimat0r<Dessimat0r> thus I cannot boot Linux09:26
pder!tell pder about install09:26
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olicathi all. how can i get my dvd writer working with breezy? regular cd's pops up a dialog, but blank dvds doesn't do anything09:26
Lars_G!java09:26
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:26
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, reiserfs09:26
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bettong_BOFH!insmod09:26
ubotubettong_BOFH: I don't know, could you explain it?09:26
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bettong_BOFHhmm this is really odd09:27
larsrohdinLars_G, hey! From sweden? Finspng?09:27
andredIf I want messages to be displayed in English, but all other locale stuff in another language, can I configure this graphically, or do I need to set LC_MESSAGES and friends in /etc/environment?09:27
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intelikeylooks like maybe not loading the initrd.09:27
creslinEvnin all - Just upgraded to 5.10 from a hoary install I've had a wee while here - only gnome-terminal and root terminal have dropped off my applications -> system tools menu. Anybody else experienced this?09:27
bettong_BOFHi really want to get this card working and i really need help >.<09:27
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  ?09:27
olicatany ideas anyone? does ubuntu support dvd writers?09:27
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_jason!tell kyle about breezy09:28
inthenowintelikey: is there a way to search the files for the command already there? i dont see how it might matter if i have to run pppoeconf to reconfigure for it to work anyway09:28
Mez397 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.09:28
MezNeed to get 267MB of archives.09:28
MezAfter unpacking 15.9MB disk space will be freed.09:28
Mezlmao09:28
pder!tell olicat about dvd09:28
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graabeincreslin, i think terminal is in another sub menu?09:28
naliothMez: please dont paste09:28
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olicatpder, i can play dvd's fine, but i'm trying to write them09:28
Mez@nalioth:P sorry... I thought 3 lined was acceptable09:28
DarkSeidwell so everything went pretty well except I lost two functions09:28
informantolicat: you should be able to use `growisofs` to burn data DVDs under any modern linux distro that has support for either internal or usb-based09:28
naliotholicat: ubuntu supports many dvd drives09:28
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inthenowhow can i search multiple files for a string of text09:28
shuddertrixolicat: Should be able to work well.09:28
DarkSeidfor whatever reason my digital camera is no longer mounted09:28
lllmanulllinthenow, grep ?09:29
pderolicat: cdrecord supports dvd writing09:29
siucdudequestion i get error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x709:29
flagfrancahow do I enable Universe and MultiVerse Repositories? I'm enabling it in Synaptic but it doesnt work....09:29
inthenowlllmanulll: how?09:29
DarkSeidand when I go to run glxgears it tells me "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server09:29
DarkSeidXlib: No protocol specified09:29
DarkSeid"09:29
intelikeyinthenow yes "grep -HiRae'<yoursearchpatern>' /etc/rc*09:29
illissius[21:20:27]  <illissius> is there any way/where I could download packages for different kernel versions than what's in breezy? <- no one knows?09:29
olicatbut the icon doesnt show up on the desktop, like regular blank cd's09:29
cjhcjhcjhsui09:29
illissiusI could try compiling myself, but that would be -painful- on a 350MHz box with very limited diskspace...09:29
lllmanulllintelikey, grep 'search_string' file1 file2 file3 etc.09:29
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, are you tryig to boot windows?09:29
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villerthere's still an error with my repositories list, but synaptic started to find updates so i hope everything is ok09:29
JuHi all!09:29
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siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  yes09:29
creslingraabein,  swear it wasnt a minute ago - but it does appear to be in accessories now. Now i'm jut missing my root-terminal entry. Tx.09:29
DarkSeidany idea on that one folks?09:30
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intelikeyno a recursive is what i intended lllmanulll09:30
tristanmikeviller, are you running breezy and have the backports uncommented?09:30
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n1xt3r_DarkSeid: maybe you need to restart X09:30
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lllmanulllintelikey, recursive ? -R09:30
JuI have issue installing breezy on a toshiba laptop (qosmio g20) the installer doesn't find the HD http://pastebin.com/39375509:30
flagfrancawhat are the adressess for Breezy Universe and Multiverse Repos?09:30
DarkSeidI restarts the whole box09:30
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intelikeyyep09:30
villertristanwike: i'm trying to update to breezy09:30
lllmanulllintelikey, grep -R 'search_string' etc.09:30
satafterhis this channel ever grown in the last few days lol09:30
graabeinflagfranca, just add universe and multiverse behind main in deb: archives.ubuntu..... breezy line09:31
lllmanulllflagfranca, Just replace "hoary" with "breezy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file09:31
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, check your grub.conf file has root (hda,b)  (or rootnoverify (hda,b)) and chainloader (hda,b)+109:31
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intelikeyand i for case insensitive   and H  and a and  lastly e for regular exp.09:31
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DarkSeidany other suggestions?09:31
tristanmikeviller, as I understand it, there are no backports or extras for breezy as of yet, so they must either be removed, or commented temporarilly09:31
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siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  i have it set to hd0,009:31
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graabeinDarkSeid, about glxgears? have you tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:31
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lllmanullltristanmike, viller, no backports yet, it has just been released :)09:32
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, try 0,1...hd starts on 0, parts on 109:32
Mezno Breezy backports yet I'm afraid09:32
flagfrancagraabein: ok, but why when I enable it in the synaptic interface it simply doesnt work?09:32
intelikeylllmanulll you learning from me, or teaching me?09:32
tristanmikesee, I understood correctly09:32
DarkSeidreconfigure in what way?09:32
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DarkSeidI checked the config file and everything is correct from what I can tell09:32
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  i have two hard disks09:32
lllmanulllintelikey, I'm not learning or teaching anyone, I'm trying to help out :)09:32
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villerlllmanull, tristanmike, i don't even know what's a backport :P09:32
n1xt3r_DarkSeid: see "set |grep -i display"09:33
creslinsweet lord ubuntu-calendar is broken!09:33
louixDoes anyone know if there is a DENU for ubuntu [to configure my ubuntu menus on flux] 09:33
graabeinim not sure, im quite the newbie, but i had problems with my nvidia drivers and opengl... looks like the same message09:33
cjhcjhcjhhdax,y.......x is drive no, starting from 0....y is partition no, starting from 1.   Sounds like your grub.conf does not have the right numbers.09:33
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villerok i'll update it tomorrow, i got everything working, but it's too late to download all the updates09:33
nicklasA program is asking this: Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel? Im running Breezy Badger..09:33
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  ok let me play with them09:33
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, or reinstall grub, and it will prob figure it all out09:33
louixAfter I installed flux there was no menus =[09:33
inthenowintelikey: so i just add pon dsl-provider to the end of any of those files before exit009:33
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sbartleylinuxnalioth, well, installed xubuntu-desktop. Now startx works but the xdm is not bringing a gui login up on boot.  manual start of xdm and check of .xsession-errors shows: xfce-mcs-manager lost it's connection to the display.  Any ideas?09:33
graabeinDarkSeid, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:34
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intelikeylouix apt-cache search <blah>09:34
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DarkSeidDISPLAY=:009:34
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louixthanks intelikey09:34
naliothnicklas: use synaptic and install linux-source and kernel-headers to match your kernel09:34
naliothsbartleylinux: install gdm09:34
intelikeyinthenow yeah i'd use usb or net<something>09:34
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maehow do you redirect std out and std err to /dev/null when launching a prog into the background? i.e. myprog &09:34
mysterious_wHoorah, my ship-it order of a single CD has been approved09:34
nicklasnalioth: allright, trying that09:34
kronus-is anyone here running apache on ubuntu server config?09:34
DarkSeidgraabein DISPLAY=:009:34
intelikeybecause of order.09:34
cjhcjhcjhwhich package contains "man"?09:34
mysterious_wI'm british, how long does it normally take for ship it to.. er.. ship?09:34
sbartleylinuxnalioth, why not xdm?  is it broken?09:35
inthenowintelikey: nothing like that there though09:35
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  my menu.lst is set up ubuntu (hd1,0) and windows (hd0,0)09:35
deFryskcjhcjhcjh, all packages contain man09:35
naliothsbartleylinux: i know nothing about xdm. but gdm will function fine with xfce409:35
deFryskcjhcjhcjh, man = manual09:35
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graabeinDarkSeid, sorry, im not quite sure what you should do09:35
cjhcjhcjhdeFrysk, mine doesnt...how do I get it09:35
_jasonmae just redirect like normal and put the & at the end I bleieve09:36
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intelikeyoh yeah i'm forgetting it's ub. inthenow anything in /etc/rc2.d/30-50's  will work.09:36
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deFryskcjhcjhcjh, try man grub09:36
deFryskas an example09:36
creslinmae nohup myprog & >/dev/null 2>&109:36
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sbartleylinuxnalioth, unfortunately, gdm requires many other items.  We are really trying to build a minimal gui system and thus want/need to use xdm.  thx anyway.09:36
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, there is no such thing as hda0...it starts on 1...that is prob the cause of the error09:36
creslinmae or start as normal then ctrl-z to stop and ctrl-b to send to bg09:36
sbartleylinuxAnyone familiar with getting xdm to work on breezy?09:37
inthenowintelikey: ok ill try brb...09:37
intelikeyk09:37
cjhcjhcjhdeFrysk, man; command not found....and how do I install it?09:37
maecersliahh thanks09:37
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marcus^does Ubuntu Breezy require 10gb? :S09:37
inthenowintelikey: 30-50s?09:37
deFryskcjhcjhcjh, man grub , not just man09:37
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inthenowintelikey: crazy business09:37
foxinessam upgrade from 5.04 to RC but the usplash not load on boot is there something am need to do to get it working on boot like fresh one?09:37
lllmanulllmarcus^, at the very most :)09:37
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naliothsbartleylinux: disable gui login09:37
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DarkSeidwell I will beat my head against the wall later for glxgears09:38
lllmanulllmarcus^, depending on how much space you want for your /home, of course...09:38
intelikeyyeah S30<blah>   S40<blah> ....09:38
inthenowintelikey: there is no 30-50s09:38
sbartleylinuxnalioth, ?09:38
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  well if ubuntu is installed on my second hard disk and that is hd1,0 what do you think windows should be?09:38
n1xt3r_Darkseid: try "glxgears -display 0"09:38
DarkSeidanyone have any idea why my USB suddenly STOPPED working after the update to breezy?09:38
cjhcjhcjhdeFrysk, man anything-you-like...I dont have the "man" package installed!09:38
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  i tried fdisk09:38
HappyFoolsbartleylinux: well, the gdm package provides /etc/init.d/gdm -- does the xdm package provide anything like that?09:38
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intelikeyinthenow "ls /etc/rc2.d/ "     and look for numbers......09:38
sunshinecjhcjhcjh can u help me09:38
inthenow30s-50s doesnt exist...except evrything else up to 90s09:38
kronus-cjhcjhcjh: sudo apt-get man09:38
eyequeuecjhcjhcjh:  then you are lacking a complete linux installation09:38
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mhzhip09:38
DarkSeiderror couldn't open display 009:38
naliothsbartleylinux: i was thinking and that isnt good sometimes09:38
sunshineif u are not to busy09:39
deFryskeyequeue, aye aye09:39
sbartleylinuxnalioth, yes. /etc/init.d/xdm09:39
mhzAny simple tool (KISS enough) to convert OGG into MP3 ?09:39
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HappyFoolsbartleylinux: ok, what happens when you run that? 'sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start' ? (assuming X/gdm/kdm not running)09:39
sbartleylinuxnalioth,  it is running, but not starting xfce.09:39
n1xt3r_Darkseid: i mean  "glxgears -display $DISPLAY"09:39
marcus^^there09:39
deFryskmhz, ogg2mp309:39
inthenowintelikey: 10s, 20s, 80s, 90s09:39
intelikeyshould i have said anything >=30    inthenow ?09:39
mhznop09:39
marcus^^but does Ubuntu Breezy require 10 GB? :s09:39
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  or maybe easy how would i reinstall grub or reconfigure it09:39
cjhcjhcjheyequeue, yep...and I would like to get the basics...not sure what is missing...would like to know...can get e.g. man but how do I know I get all the {normal]  stuff...ie can I copy the base install apt-gets from somewhere?09:39
intelikeywould that help ?09:39
inthenowintelikey: you tell me, this is your idea. hehehe09:40
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, that would be my tactic ;-)09:40
HappyFoolsbartleylinux: hrm. maybe look in /etc/X11/xinit or /etc/X11/Xsession.d ?09:40
Wolekmarcus: no, i had it on smaller partition09:40
sunshinecjhcjhcjh can u help me please09:40
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DarkSeidsame message as before with the NO protocol specified09:40
mhzdeFrysk: nop, I apt-cache searched it unsucessfully09:40
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, quick, painless,let the pc work it out09:40
marcus^^Wolek: how small?09:40
sbartleylinuxHappyFool, k.09:40
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cjhcjhcjhsunshine, what?09:40
marcus^^the windowsdualboot howto says "at least 10gb"09:40
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  how do i reconfigure grub09:40
inthenowintelikey: so 80s is fine then?09:40
oxezNew ATI drivers released 8.18.609:40
foxinessi want to know if there who use smrtlink on breezy and get it working ?09:40
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lllmanulllsiucdude, What do you mean by reconfigure ?09:40
bam_hey anyone know why gtkpod wont display nfo from say selecting the artist(like displaying all the tracks?09:41
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DarkSeidwell OpenGL and USB are the only things non functioning after the upgrade to breezy09:41
intelikeyyes i specified 30-50 becaues of the sysv convintions but anything after 20 which is where the root file system should be mounted will be fine.09:41
siucdude111manu111: i am geting error and windows is not picking up09:41
DarkSeidwhich makes this workstation essentially useless to me atm09:41
Wolekmarcus: it uses about 1,6 GB09:41
sunshinei still tryin to mount my hd i've tried live cd recovery procedure and Recovering Ubuntu After Installing Windows procedure but neither work i thougght u had some ideas earlier09:41
Wolekmarcus: i have 8 GB partition fot it09:41
villeris there anything to search with in ubuntu?09:42
cjhcjhcjhlllmanulll, how to get grub to install, like it does on installation09:42
villerto search for files i mean09:42
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Wolekmarcus: plus swap09:42
lllmanulllsiucdude, maybe try sudo grub-install /dev/hda for a start09:42
sunshineso i can fix the changes to this file i mess up09:42
lllmanulllsiucdude, cjhcjhcjh, assuming /dev/hda is your drive09:42
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graabeinDarkSeid, i just dist-upgraded myself and it looks like my opengl is broken09:42
graabeinXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".09:42
siucdude111manu111: did that and nothing09:42
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cjhcjhcjhviller, learn about grep,its very cool...command line...e,g, ls -lR |grep linux09:42
HappyFoolviller: not sure about gui (isn't beagle a search thing?), but on the command-line you can use the 'locate' command09:42
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siucdude111manu111: /dev/hda is my windows and /dev/hdb is my ubuntu but still nothing09:43
lllmanulllsiucdude, Did you try grub-installing and then reboot ?09:43
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villeri'd like to have something like mac, everybody's saying good about it09:43
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villereven windows has a search09:43
intelikeysunshine do "fdisk -l "  and find your linux partition and note the address.   then "sudo mount /dev/<address> /media && ls /media"09:43
lllmanulllsiucdude, You still need to install grub on /dev/hda, even if Ubuntu is on hdb, I gess it's the best bet09:44
villerbut ubuntu has just a command line feature09:44
siucdude111manu111: yes my ubuntu works but windows gives me a error09:44
DarkSeidany folks here have problems with USB and OpenGL after dist-upgrade to Breezy from Hoary?09:44
cjhcjhcjh"command line feature" lol09:44
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tristanmikeviller, is there no "Search for Files" under Places?09:44
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villerit would be great if ubuntu had virtual folders too09:44
lllmanulllsiucdude, What kind of error ?09:44
graabeinviller, try under places > search for files09:44
siucdude111manu111:  error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x709:44
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viller:D i didn't notice it before09:44
Kyralviller, locate is your friend :P09:44
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villerthank ya09:44
intelikeysiucdude hda is not a partition. it is a disk.    hda1 hda5 hda47 would be partitions09:44
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graabein:)09:44
Kyralits command line but it rocks09:45
xfelonhey i installed gFTP and now when i try to connect to a server it says "The protocol 'Ftp' is currently not supported."09:45
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marcellusheh09:45
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HappyFoolxfelon: try 'ftp' instead of 'Ftp' ?09:45
intelikeyKyral cli always rocks.09:45
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Rawplayeranyone in here using ubuntu linux?09:45
Kyralindeed09:45
villerhehe, ubuntu's search is faster than windows' every os has a better search09:45
Avenhi09:45
Rawplayerno j/k09:45
Rawplayerhehe09:45
graabeinallright i've got banshee!09:45
Avenisn't there a way to install webmin through "apt-get"?09:45
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siucdudeintelikey:  i know my disk is hda windows that can't boot and my partition was before ha0,0 i think09:45
WolekRawplayer, me09:45
Rawplayerno shit ;p09:45
villerrawplayer, :D09:45
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JuI have issue installing breezy on a toshiba laptop (qosmio g20) the installer doesn't find the HD http://pastebin.com/393755 , nobody ? ;-/09:45
pinucsetsomebody wants a gmail invitation09:46
DarkSeidwell gonna reboot one more time to see what happens09:46
DarkSeidbrb09:46
bayramhallo ich brauce hilfe09:46
andrownzis there a place to copy/paste a weird series of command?09:46
Rawplayerbut erm.. which kernel is in breezy?09:46
chrisbudden14anyone having display problems with the forum?09:46
graabeinpastebin.com09:46
HappyFoolAven: almost certainly09:46
foxinesshow can i get Usplash to work after upgrade?09:46
HappyFool!tell andrownz about pastebin09:46
Avenwhat would be the command ?09:46
bayramwer kann deutsch09:46
JuRawplayer:  2.6.1209:46
evilmegamanhi, no one in kubuntu is helping me with my question which I have asked once every hour for 5 hours.. so my question is, How do I install java and have it be recognized when I do java --version. I get gij as output09:46
nekostaroops lol09:46
Rawplayeraight09:46
Rawplayergreat09:46
intelikeyhd0,0 under grub should be /dev/hda109:46
HappyFool!de09:46
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe09:46
cjhcjhcjhandrownz, pastebin.com09:46
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Woleki'm using fresh install of 5.10, just installed :>09:46
nekostarjava?09:46
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BrotherYvesbayran: was ist dein probleem09:46
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nekostarlesse here09:46
evilmegamanYes nekostar09:46
HappyFool!tell evilmegaman about javadeb09:46
Rawplayerbecause my sata controller is only supported in 2.6.11 and higher09:46
nekostargimme second09:46
siucdudeintelikey:  it is09:46
xfelonok09:46
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nekostari have to install for my azureus anyway09:46
Rawplayerits a promise sata II 150 tx209:46
xfelonthanks man09:46
andrownzHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh : thx =)09:47
xfelonThanks HappyFool09:47
bayramich habe ubuntu neu instaliert aber ich kann nicht skype instaliere09:47
xfelonworked09:47
intelikeyso did you mount it?09:47
evilmegamanII have seen that happyfool..09:47
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evilmegamanBut I don't have a BT client. Do I need one?09:47
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kemik!de09:47
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe09:47
inthenowintelikey: ok so it didnt work...im starting to think it might be better to use it as USB09:47
kemik!skype09:47
ubotu[skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl09:47
siucdudeintelikey:  yes and i can access it from ubuntu but that is my windows partion,disk and i can't grub into it i get eroor09:47
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HappyFoolevilmegaman: ubuntu comes with a bittorrent client09:48
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evilmegamanoh cool :)09:48
siucdudeintelikey:  error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x709:48
evilmegamanThanks happyfool09:48
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BrotherYvesich denke das prebleem komt van den neuen glib09:48
evilmegamanWait, HappyFool, Does Kubuntu come with one?09:48
intelikeyso sudo umount it and do what i said the first time use fdisk -l and find the linux partition siucdude09:48
nekostarhttp://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp09:48
HappyFoolevilmegaman: i don't know; click on the link and find out ;)09:48
nekostarget the one thats NOT netbeans09:48
lllmanulllBrotherYves, Please get to #ubuntu-de for deutsch support09:48
andrownzcan anyone explain this : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3095     ?09:49
evilmegamanalright09:49
coolaj86could someone tell me what I need to install to compile things from source? I've installed gcc, make, and kernel-headers but I'm getting errors about stdio.h (and everything else) not being found.09:49
HappyFoolcoolaj86: install 'build-essential'09:49
marcelluscoolaj86: glibc?09:49
sunshinewellwhen i fdisk -l it showed /dev/hdb1 is system linux /dev/hdb2 is extended and /dev/hdb5 is linux swap09:49
coolaj86happyfool: thank you very much!09:49
siucdudeintelikey:  ubuntu works like a charm its my windows that i can't boot into  i know that is not a hudge deal09:49
nekostarhttp://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=jre-1.5.0_05-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg09:49
BrotherYveslllmanulll: i am just trying to help the guy, i am here for an english chat09:49
graabeinanyone know how to fix this:  $ glxgears09:49
graabeinXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".09:49
bayramwer kan trkish09:49
lllmanulllandrownz, something you don't understand ?09:50
nekostarthat should be the correct one i believe09:50
lllmanulllBrotherYves, Sorry :)09:50
nekostarto _run_ apps09:50
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Ju!synaptic09:50
ubotusynaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:50
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nekostarHappyFool09:50
BrotherYveslllmanulll: no problem09:50
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sunshinei mount dev/hdb1 but it say can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:50
nekostarthe bittorrent client that comes with ubuntu is crap09:50
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lllmanulllandrownz, mount needs what to mount as well as where to mount it09:50
nekostarsorry09:50
nekostar:P09:50
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, does the grub.conf have a chainloader in it?09:50
nekostarsudo apt-get install bittornado azureus09:50
sunshineremember im on a live cd09:50
nekostar:)09:50
intelikeysiucdude ok i missunderstood you then i thought it was linux that wouldn't boot.   sorry.09:50
nekostarbut09:50
Wolekmy synaptic works perfect :D09:50
bayramtrkce bilen yokmu kardesim09:50
nekostarput in the sun java first09:50
lllmanulllsunshine, you need to tell the system where you want to mount it09:50
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  yes chainloader +109:50
HappyFoolandrownz: what is the output of plain 'mount' ?09:51
gooktimebtdownloadcurses for life09:51
andrownzlllmanulll, when it's in fstab you don't need to specify everyhing usually ..09:51
andrownzHappyFool, "plain mount" ?09:51
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bayramcevap verin yemeyiz bir sey soracam09:51
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lllmanulllandrownz, Ah, right, that's weird indeed :)09:51
HappyFoolandrownz: mount<enter>09:51
evilmegamannekostar, How do I go about getting sun java to be the output in java --version?09:51
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HappyFoolandrownz: obviously don't paste the output here09:51
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sunshinei dont know how to do that all iwant is to be able to access my files and fix the changes to the file i mess up09:51
nekostarnot totally sure09:51
nekostarbut09:51
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, change it to cchainloader (hdX,Y)+109:51
evilmegamanI installed it to /usr/java09:51
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nekostari BELIEVE that when you put it in09:51
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nekostarit should take over settings09:52
evilmegamanweird09:52
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nekostarill know the answer to that in a little bit if you can hang on a sec09:52
evilmegamanI will check if I did something wrong :)09:52
HappyFoolevilmegaman: you used the debs?09:52
nekostari need to install it right now :P09:52
gooktimeinstall linux09:52
gooktime:)09:52
andrownzHappyFool, it's not mounted ..09:52
inthenowpppoe is screwed09:52
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evilmegamanNo HappyFool, I can't use my BT clients I like because I don't have java >.<09:52
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HappyFoolandrownz: despite the final command in that sequence you pasted?09:52
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evilmegamanthe above makes me sound picky09:53
intelikeycjhcjhcjh > siucdude, change it to cchainloader (hd0,0)+1  <--- isn't it?09:53
apollo2011hi everyone09:53
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linadhi09:53
HappyFoolevilmegaman: a little ;)09:53
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  ok did that let me reboot09:53
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apollo2011I am an idiot and messed up my grub menu09:53
sbartleylinuxHappyFool, the problem seems to be that xdm is not bringing up a login.  I can startx and startxfce4 and both come up fine.  When I start,restart xdm, the screen goes black then drops back to prompt.09:53
cjhcjhcjhintelikey, siucdude quite right09:53
siucdudeintelikey:  correct09:53
lllmanulllandrownz, Ah, it doesn't even get mounted ? Then are you sure it is ext3 indeed ?09:53
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izzyhi... is there a way to make linux commands, namely cd, not case sensitive?09:53
apollo2011I amm now at the grub boot menu with a restored setup but it complains about the partition not being able to be booted09:53
Kyralizzy, nope09:53
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apollo2011can someone help me fix grub?09:54
HappyFoolsbartleylinux: i guess xdm needs some config; what i suggested earlier was just a guess, sorry09:54
WaernerHi, how do I reconfigure the ethernet-device to NOT use sit0...?09:54
lllmanulllizzy, huh, no, except making aliases09:54
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh:  still same error09:54
sbartleylinuxHappyFool, np. thx.09:54
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izzyi know they are not case sensitive on OS X.........09:54
cjhcjhcjhapollo2011, seems to be the themme09:54
BrotherYvesizzy: no linux is case sensitive09:54
lllmanulllizzy, alias 'CD'=cd for example09:54
andrownzlllmanulll, the last line show it gets mounted if i specify the second argument ....09:54
Wolekizzy: rather not. only aliases for commands09:54
mweizzy: yes, change all the source code and recompile :)09:54
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izzywill do.09:54
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lllmanulllmwe, Great idea :-p09:54
jcsSATA support in installer by default?  Trying to install on ASUS T2 motherboard.09:54
intelikeycjhcjhcjh i'm thinking ntfs fubar09:54
izexit09:55
Waerneranyone...? :P09:55
graabeinapollo2011, try searching the ubuntu forums... i found some grub info there...09:55
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh:  i found a fix for this error in suse version but nothing for ubuntu09:55
xfelonAnyone want to see my awesome desktop lol?09:55
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apollo2011cjhcjhcjh:  ok09:55
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh:  here it is http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html09:55
intelikeyerrrr no stage5 error.   you need the ntfs stage 509:55
cjhcjhcjhintelikey, maybe... siucdude can you mount the ntfs?09:55
WaernerDoes anyone know how to reconfigure my NIC, so I can get rid of that damn sit0-thing?09:56
andrownzlllmanulll, update : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309609:56
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh: well it lets me mount it from ubuntu but wont let me access it hold on let me try something09:56
intelikeyreinstall grub and make sure it installs the correct stage509:56
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Waerner:-/09:57
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HappyFoolintelikey: is that stage1.5 ?09:57
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh: ok ubuntu finds the disk as dev/hda but i tried to mount it and nothing before it let me view the files09:57
HappyFoolWaerner: (a guess) look in /etc/network/interfaces09:57
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh: ok ubuntu finds the disk as dev/hda partition dev/hda109:58
sbartleylinuxIs there anyone here using xdm and breezy?09:58
WaernerHappyFool, I'll do that, thx, brb09:58
intelikeyntfs_stage1_509:58
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HappyFoolintelikey: does such a thing exist?09:59
intelikeyHappyFool is it not ntfs ?09:59
WaernerHappyFool, looks OK to me...? what should I change...?09:59
intelikeyi thought it was.09:59
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intelikeyyou have xp HappyFool ?09:59
HappyFoolWaerner: look for a sit0 entry; as i said, that was a guess10:00
DarkSeidok I got OpenGL workign by replacing the xorg.conf file with the one I had prior to upgrade10:00
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HappyFoolintelikey: yeah, i dual boot xp and hoary; i use a chainloader entry to boot xp from grub10:00
kernel666try dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda1 *GG**10:00
graabeinDarkSeid, good job...10:00
WaernerHappyFool, okay, then I guess it looks OK then... nothing found :-/10:00
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DarkSeidBUT for some reason my USB camera isn't automounted in K but works fine in Gnome10:00
HappyFoolkernel666: c'mon dude10:00
BooZeeI want to copy a DVD. how can I do that?10:00
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DarkSeidfor that matter using Kamera and Digikam says that the device doesn't even exist10:00
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intelikeyHappyFool ls /boot/grub (assumes it's there)  and see what stage1_5 files you have10:01
DarkSeidkonqueror doesnt see it either10:01
HappyFoolintelikey: e2fs, fat, jfs, minix, reiserfs and xfs10:01
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intelikeyi only have two.  ext  and   fat but i have see several.10:01
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siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh: how would i be able to find out my windows partion10:02
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siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh: maybe its not hd0,010:02
HappyFoolsiucdude: 'sudo fdisk -l' will list all hard-disk partitions linux can find10:02
intelikeysiucdude fdisk -l10:02
HappyFoolsiucdude: have you put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on the pastebin?10:02
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, try grub-install /dev/hda10:02
HappyFoolsudo fdisk -l -- without sudo it doesn't do much10:02
DarkSeidany ideas on that one?10:02
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, as su10:03
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intelikeyok fdisk -l /dev/hd* then   :)10:03
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HappyFoolDarkSeid: hmm. i'm not a kubuntu user, but it sounds like a bug. maybe test with a memory stick or other usb device if you can10:04
bozelhi10:04
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Avenhi10:04
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh, happyfool:  ok disk /dev/hda is windows 60gb  and its /dev/hda1  now what do i put into grub10:04
Avenwhat's the gedit command again? (to edit other files)10:04
bozelhow can i add a new user?10:04
HappyFoolsiucdude: can you please paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin, and the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst as well?10:04
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, did you try grub-install /dev/hda10:04
DarkSeidHappyFool I dont think it is Kubuntu though10:04
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HappyFoolsiucdude: paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:04
DarkSeidif it works in Gnome it should work in K10:05
intelikeybozel sudo useradd10:05
bozelok thx10:05
bozelill tr10:05
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bozely10:05
HappyFoolDarkSeid: that spells a kde in ubuntu bug to me *shrug*10:05
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Avenso..what's the gedit commad again? (to edit a file)10:05
HappyFoolgedit filename10:05
HappyFoolif you need administrator privileges, sudo gedit filename10:06
cjhcjhcjhAven, er...gedit <filename>10:06
Avenohh, I knew that10:06
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intelikeysudo gedit <blah>  if you dont already own the file10:06
siucdudeHappyFool:  ok10:06
AvenI forgot the "sudo" :P10:06
siucdudeintelikey, cjhcjhcjh, happyfool:  yes i did grub-install /dev/hda10:07
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BooZeehello! I would like to copy a DVD.10:07
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HappyFoolsiucdude: i missed the earlier part of this conversation -- what is the problem? ubuntu boots, but windows doesn't ?10:07
dandel1984i keep having issues with my system not working with loading of my wireless network and bein able to run on the net right away.10:07
intelikeyit installed which stage 5's ?10:07
BooZeeHow can I do that?10:07
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intelikeyBooZee clone copy you mean ?10:08
siucdudeHappyFool:  i get this erro when i boot windows error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x710:08
mathmattmy dlink dwl650+ was detected automagically and worked fine under hoary, any ideas as to why it doesn't work under breezy?10:08
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XTR-IIomg. ubuntuforums is down.10:08
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HappyFoolsiucdude: you mean booting windows from grub, right?10:08
BooZeeamm.. I don't know. I have a DVD, and I want to have another DVD, with the same content.  lol :-)10:08
sorush20Help my printer will not print...10:09
siucdudeHappyFool: yes10:09
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HappyFoolsiucdude: ok, please put your menu.lst and output of mount on the pastebin10:09
HappyFoolsiucdude: hopefully just need to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst10:09
tuxuntuHello! What do I have to do when apt-get says: E: Package mdnsresponder has no installation candidate?10:09
BooZeeintelikey: is it diffrent from DVD copy?10:09
siucdudeHappyFool: i did10:09
HappyFoolsiucdude: ah10:09
HappyFoolsiucdude: it's traditional to paste an url here ;)10:10
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mweintelikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo says to not sudo {GUIAPP} as it might not set the environment and that might cause trouble and use gksudo or kdesu instead10:10
dandel1984i wonder if i got my file, /etc/network/interfaces, done wrong.10:10
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HappyFoolmwe: gksudo doesn't work correctly for me *shrug*10:10
siucdudeHappyFool: sorry new to all this used to use suse but ubuntu is a lot better10:10
mweI guess for gedit it wont hurt, anyway10:11
robert2005Hi! the amd64-k8 nvidia kernel stuff is brocken the amd64-generic works .. is this bug already know? and is there a walk around?10:11
DarkSeidooh isnt this grand10:11
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, do you have scsi, perchance?10:11
HappyFoolsiucdude: the chainloader line looks a bit suspect10:11
DarkSeidok anyone familiar with Evolution?10:11
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dandel1984can somone tell me if i did this right... just keep in mind some of the info is changed due to my own reasons... http://rafb.net/paste/results/UH2JkQ95.html10:11
DarkSeidIt says I don't have permission to attach a file10:12
FliesLikeABrickDarkSeid, evolution mail?10:12
DarkSeidyes Evolution mail10:12
HappyFoolsiucdude: my chainloader line is simply 'chainloader +1' -- yours has an extra (hd0,0) in it10:12
BooZeehey people, I want to copy a DVD. (maybe it is called Clone..) How can I do that?10:12
FliesLikeABrickare you sure you have read permissions on the file you're trying to attach?10:12
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  no10:12
DarkSeidyes10:12
HappyFoolcjhcjhcjh: scsi/sata would show up as /dev/sd*10:12
HappyFoolsiucdude: let me just check the grub manual, but i think that might be at least part of the problem10:12
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siucdudeHappyFool:  i did have it before chainloader +1 but i changed it same error in both10:12
El_CheBooZee: install nerolinux, k3b or gnomebaker10:13
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WolekBooZee, use dd and growisofs10:13
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maddlerfolks... any1 using a nokia 6680 + gnokii on breezy?10:13
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  no only hda hdb hdd hdc10:13
sandollar+10:13
DarkSeidok restarting Evolution fixed it?10:13
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DarkSeidugh10:14
Fredhow do i set a dns server using ssh?10:14
DarkSeidI am thinking I should have stayed with Hoary10:14
syndWhat should I use for P2P?10:14
BooZeeEl_Che: it says it can't find nerolinux. (i did sudo apt-get install nerolinux)10:14
HappyFoolsiucdude: hmm. when last did windows boot correctly?10:14
HappyFoolsiucdude: has it ever booted from grub correctly?10:14
cjhcjhcjhsiu I missed the URL of the pastebin...what is it?10:14
tuxuntuWhich package contains the gdk2.3 lib?10:15
HappyFoolhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/309710:15
siucdudeHappyFool:  yes10:15
El_CheBooZee: it's proprietary software, you need to download it from ahead.be. Skip that, install k3b. Pretty good. Run it as gksudo k3b10:15
cjhcjhcjhHappyFool, ta10:15
DarkSeidwell at least my mp3's still work w/ amarok10:15
Jhairtuxuntu: you can ask packages.ubuntu.com any time10:15
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HappyFoolsiucdude: ok, have you changed anything since which might affect this?10:15
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BooZeeEl_Che: i tried that, but i got an error.. something about burning speed...10:15
BooZeeplus, isn't it a kde prog?10:16
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tuxuntuJhair, there are only packages for the GNOME1 desktop...10:16
tuxuntuwhat about the GTK2 versions?10:16
tristanmikeBooZee, you can install kde packs in gnome and vise versa10:16
xfelonhey i have a question10:16
xfelonwhen im exctracting a file10:16
xfelondo i type10:16
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, ok...under "vista..." add the following;10:16
xfelonsudo add-file filename?10:16
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Fredwhich config file do i need to edit to add DNS servers?10:16
siucdudeHappyFool:  two things i have done that i have done before,  I installed the new windows and then took live cd ubuntu and did a grub-install and worked beofre this time i get this dumb message,10:17
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tuxuntuFred, /etc/resolv.conf10:17
Fredit says not to edit it :/10:17
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steve_donBooZee: you could try gnome-baker if you want to stick with gnome apps10:17
kronus-AAUGHWTFWTF10:17
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lllmanulllBooZee, gnomebaker actually :)10:17
kronus-perl: warning: Setting locale failed.10:17
kronus-perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:10:17
kronus-        LANGUAGE = "en",10:17
kronus-        LC_ALL = (unset),10:17
kronus-        LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"10:17
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kronus-    are supported and installed on your system.10:17
Fredtuxuntu: its also symlinked to some other file too :/10:17
kronus-perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").10:17
Jhairouch10:17
HappyFoolsiucdude: hmm. did the windows install go correctly?10:17
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, map (hd0) (hd1)10:17
cjhcjhcjh<newline>map (hd1) (hd0)<newline>root            (hd1,0)10:17
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HappyFoolkronus-: please don't paste here10:17
kronus-sorry10:18
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kronus-but how do i fix it?10:18
tristanmikeBooZee, or graveman, that's gnome too I believe10:18
HappyFoolmaybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?10:18
siucdudeHapyFool: yes10:18
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, delete the existing root, and change the last line to just chainloader     +110:18
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El_CheBooZee: set your burning speed in the conf10:19
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cjhcjhcjhsiu do you follow? I can pastebin if you need it10:19
Kejk_PLkronus-: try sudo spkg-reconfigure locales10:19
Woleki'm going to make a tea, anyone want some  ? ;)10:19
BooZeecan I copy (or clone, whatever..) dvd on the fly if I don't have enough free space ?10:19
mukaeme10:19
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Kejk_PLkronus-: and reboot probably :))10:19
mukaei want one thanks10:19
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mukaethis is a good wellcome wolek10:20
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oxezcan't wait ubuntu devs to add ATI 8.18.6 to repos! Looks like ATI improved opengl performanec10:20
raven128anyone got a script to mirror breezy packages for certain architectures? (want to do this at work so I can update home - on dialup STILL !)10:20
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HappyFoolsiucdude: i can't find a grub error "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7" -- is that a grub or windows error ?10:20
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  i got it let me reboot10:21
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raven128hey, partion type 0x7 is NTFS , its a grub error10:21
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siucdudeHapyFool: i don't know i googled that error and never seen anything like it i did find this http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html10:22
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HappyFoolsiucdude: yeah, ok, it's a grub error. i don't know why grub is trying to read the ntfs filesystem though10:22
jrattner1Anyone know anything about removable storage devices10:22
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  hey you put down windows as root (hd1,0) but that is my ubuntu disk10:22
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HappyFoolsiucdude: it should just load the bootload from the first sector10:22
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, yeah but bear with me...with the map stuff...hang on,lets get this right...10:23
starscallingmnsum10:23
starscallinger10:23
starscallingum10:23
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, http://pastebin.com/39381810:23
starscalling./jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin <<-=-= not working as exicuting the package10:23
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, make it so...trust me ;-)10:23
starscallinghow else can i tell my system to execute a self extracting package?10:24
raven128chmod +x ?10:24
thespiritoftalis there any need to format the disk drive or delete the hoary to install breezy?10:24
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cjhcjhcjhstarscalling, chmod +x ./jre- etc10:24
thespiritoftalor can i just install it over ?10:24
mhzAny simple tool (KISS enough) to convert OGG into MP3 ? (i did not find ogg2mp3)10:24
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jrattner1ubotu tell me about java10:24
starscalling chmod a+x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin10:24
cjhcjhcjhmsz open it using the sound recorder, save as...10:25
starscallingdo i need to sudo to use the chmod command then?10:25
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siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  ok its rebooting10:25
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cjhcjhcjhstarscalling, yeah,10:25
mukaefucking ubunto i dont understand anything dude10:25
HappyFoolmhz: a combination off ogg123 and lame ought to do it (not very simple, tohugh)10:25
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thespiritoftalnoone knows?10:25
jrattner1ubotu tell me about w32 codecs10:25
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cjhcjhcjhmukae, sorry to hear that, can you be a little more specific?10:25
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mukaehaha10:25
thespiritoftalubotu tell me about breezy10:25
mukaei'm sorry10:25
mhzmukae: what do you need, respectfully?10:26
Samy_MWell I just installed my first Linux. :)10:26
Wolekjrattner1, read ubuntu guide, there are info about codecs10:26
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cjhcjhcjhSamy_M, congrats ;-)10:26
jrattner1Wolek, im wondering why I cant find mplayer in the repositories10:26
mukaeit's my first day whith this system10:26
HappyFool!tell thespiritoftal about breezyupgrade10:26
raven128thespiritoftal - just format the disk as part of breezy install...10:26
starscallingbash: ./jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory10:26
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jrattner1ubotu tell me about ndiswrappers10:26
mukaei didn't know anything about linux before today10:26
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mhzHappyFool: ok10:26
starscallingubotu tell me about java10:26
jrattner1ubotu tell me about ndiswrapper10:26
ajeetmp3 in breezy anyone?10:26
malverian[work] Why do they recommend formatting hard drive?10:26
jackmacokcmukae, whats the problem10:27
ProN00bomigod help plx, i need a tutorial for setting up dual monitors, i don't wana think, does anyone got a good one ? (i lost the one i used for hoary -_-)10:27
mhzmukae: so, why you say it is system problem?10:27
Samy_MCan anybody tell me what's a good file to put a startup command into? I need to map my mousebuttons every time I startup.10:27
raven128install all the rythmbox plugins for MP3...10:27
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ProN00band i thought breezy would autoconfig it and didn't backup my xorg.conf !!!10:27
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  ok i am using mIRC on my laptop and now i got a new error,  filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x8310:27
ajeetraven128: where frin?10:27
ajeet*from*10:27
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marcus^hi10:27
marcus^is there a filesystem which both Ubuntu AND winxp supports?10:27
raven128UK10:27
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cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, ok, progress has been had, you have to admit ;-)10:27
kevogodmarcus^, FAT3210:28
mukaei wanted to kick windows and ubuntu sounded real good, but i dont know how to use it in the mayority of the functions10:28
marcus^kevogod: sure?10:28
raven128marcus - use FAT3210:28
kevogodmarcellus, But FAT32 is NOT secure.10:28
marcus^ok, not NTFS?10:28
kevogoderr10:28
kevogodmarcus10:28
HappyFoolmarcus^: fat is read/write from both, though you can't put /home or similar on fat10:28
siucdudecjhcjhcjh:  yes its different erro10:28
jackmacokcmukae, its not that hard..just give it time.....take the time to do some reading on wiki.ubuntu.com and in the forums10:28
cjhcjhcjhHappyFool, can you help siucdude with that bit?10:28
ProN00bmarcus^, you can't really say support but use fat3210:28
kronus-i'm trying to install locales and localeconf, but apt is throwing a dependency error: glibc-2.3.210:28
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kronus-i have libc-6 installed10:28
mukaeright10:28
icarushi all, has anyone got skype to work in breazy??10:28
kronus-what's going wrong?10:28
mukaewiky cood be a good posibility10:29
ajeetCould anyone help me setup mp3 playing in breezy?10:29
HappyFoolsiucdude: can give us the complete error?10:29
marcus^ProN00b: i only need a station to store some mp3's i can read from both10:29
jackmacokcmukae, i've only been using it for a year and i'm still a noob...so hang in there10:29
Samy_MCan an NTFS partition be changed into FAT32 without destroying the contents? I can't backup 100+GB of stuff from that partition.10:29
mukaeone year10:29
HappyFoolkronus-: do you have (or have you had) non-ubuntu repositories enabled?10:29
mukaei ??10:29
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: let me post it10:29
ProN00bfat32 is cool for some simple files, marcus^, i am doing the same with my music and videos10:29
kronus-HappyFool: only ubuntu, i think10:29
ProN00bdoes anyone know a tutorial for dual monitors ??10:29
kevogodFat32 degrades after 4 GB.10:29
mukaei wont wait so long to get on with it10:30
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jackmacokcpron00b, i havent seen one. i'm looking for something similar myself - going from agp to pci graphics. my kernel is in panic mode because of it10:30
cjhcjhcjhSamy_M, what OS? 2000?10:30
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kronus-are there repos i should add?10:30
HappyFoolkronus-: have you maybe mixed breezy/hoary repos?10:30
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kronus-all hoary10:31
kronus-should i up to breezy?10:31
Samy_Mcjhcjhcjh, XP10:31
HoxzerI'm trying to compline xine but seems like I can't run it in gnome if I don't install xfree86-devel and I cannot find it in synaptic10:31
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coolaj86Is there a way to upgrade Ubuntu rather than reinstall?10:31
starscalling/usr/local/jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin: line 445: /usr/share/application-registry/java-archive.applications: Permission denied10:31
pderUBUNTU HAS NEVER BEEN INSTALLED ON A PERSONAL COMPUTER SYSTEM10:31
HappyFoolkronus-: and locales is not installed?10:31
starscallingis that going to be a problem? !_!10:31
WolekSamy_M, there is a tool in windows xp for converting ntfs into fat3210:31
HappyFool*sigh*10:31
dashcoolaj86: sure - read the  'upgrading' url in the topic10:31
ProN00bcoolaj86, topic10:31
ajeetmp3 playing in breezy anyone?10:31
Hoxzerso what should I do?10:31
kronus-well, bash can't find it10:31
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: http://pastebin.com/39383710:31
Hoxzerajeet: yep10:32
starscallingajeet:: try xmms10:32
kronus-and my locales are realyl messed up10:32
starscallingand restricted formats guide10:32
Samy_MWolek, Do you happen to remember what it's called?10:32
coolaj86dash, pron00b... duh... don't I feel dumb10:32
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coolaj86sorry about that10:32
dashcoolaj86: np :)10:32
starscallinghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:32
jalvarezromhello all10:32
mweHoxzer: xlibs-dev10:32
WolekSamy_M, i'm not sure, try "convert" :)10:32
HappyFoolkronus-: 'dpkg -l locales' doesn't list it?10:32
pderUBUNTU IS NOT DESIGNED FOR PERSONAL MICROCOMPUTER SYSTEMS10:32
Samy_MWolek, Okay, thanks. :)10:32
ProN00bpder, right, all computer systems ubuntu are installed on become weapoings of mad dewstruction10:32
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cjhcjhcjhSamy_M, vcom partition commander,10:32
nicklasDoes NdisWraooer work on amd64?10:33
KyralCan I shoot pder?10:33
coolaj86what's pder's problem?10:33
Belutzpder, no caps please10:33
jalvarezromdo you know a util to change automatically wallpapers for gnome?10:33
dashpder: it's a breakfast cereal, you eat it10:33
pder!tell Kyral about conduct10:33
dashjalvarezrom: yes, i wrote one10:33
nicklasDoes NdisWraooer work on amd64?10:33
Kyralpder I believe you should read that yourself10:33
jrattner1how do i unload a module10:33
jrattner1rmmod?10:33
Kyraljrattner1, I believe so10:33
Wolekjrattner1, yes10:33
pderKyral: violence is against the ubuntu code of conduct10:33
Samy_Mcjhcjhcjh, Don't think I'm gonna splurge $50 just for this one conversion.10:33
kronus-HappyFool: this is what i get from that, i don't know how to interpret it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bZUVQI64.html10:34
Seveaspder, shouting in the channel too10:34
dashjalvarezrom: http://divmod.org/users/washort/ranwp.py10:34
HappyFoolkronus-: can you hang on a moment?10:34
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kronus-aye10:34
HappyFoolsiucdude: what is that? the output from the boot?10:34
jalvarezromdash, thanks dash10:34
tristanmikepder, was booted before for innappropriate behaviour10:34
Samy_MWhat's really weird is that the junk mail filter in Thunderbird seems to be a LOT more accurate in Ubuntu than in Windows. I don't get it.10:34
dashjalvarezrom: change BACKGROUND_DIRS to be a list of places you keep your wallpapers10:34
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: yes since the new changes10:34
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pderSeveas: you would agree that threatening to shoot someone is worse that typing in an all caps, no?10:34
luckyabaxine plays fine and then part way through a song it will starts skipping kinnda like its fast forwarding?10:34
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Seveaspder, no10:34
dashpder: not on IRC10:34
tristanmikelol10:35
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icarusdoes anyone know where I can get libqt3c102-mt??10:35
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dashin person, yes. over  the phone, maybe10:35
apokryphospder: and irrelevant, nevertheless. Even if it were the "lesser of two evils" it wouldn't in any way justify its necessity10:35
dashbut not on IRC10:35
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kevogodicarus, Trying to install Skype?10:35
apokryphosicarus: why do you want it? It's obsolete in breezy.10:35
cjhcjhcjhHappyFool, hope you can see what I was trying to do with the mapping...10:35
dashSo, I'm doing a fresh Breezy install from CD10:35
icaruskevogod: yup, on breazy :(10:35
Kyral....I'm not your dog Seveas...;P10:35
dashand it's stuck on installing 'installation-report'10:35
pderi am a bit disturbed that murder is acceptable in the ubuntu community10:35
HappyFoolcjhcjhcjh: not really, sorry ;)10:36
mhzmukae, do you remember the first time you used a computer?10:36
dashperl is having some problems with locales10:36
icarusapokryphos: I need it for skype10:36
frank23icarus: I used the statically linked skype download10:36
dashanybody seen this? is this a FAQ? :)10:36
HappyFoolsiucdude: so grub outputs part of it's config with the error?10:36
icarusfrank23: where did you get that at?10:36
Seveasdash, make sure the locales set in /etc/environment are installed10:36
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nnonix!tell pder how to STFU10:36
frank23icarus: on the skype linux download page10:36
jalvarezromdash, I'll need phyton?10:36
Kyralpder, if I was serious about killing you I wouldn't ask permission ;P10:36
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apokryphosicarus: you could just alter the dependencies on the .deb10:36
mhzmukae: had you attended a special course? did you know everything you wanted? Every new process needs time and patience.10:36
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BourneWhats really bad is threatning to shoot someone in caps10:36
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: yes when i choose windows i get this display10:36
pder!tell nnonix about conduct10:36
Fredwhat's the format for adding lines to resolv.conf ?10:36
dashjalvarezrom: yes. but that's already installed, I bet10:36
icarusapokryphos: how do I do that dude? sorry am a newb10:36
apokryphosicarus: where is the .deb?10:37
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Seveas!tell nnonix about conduct10:37
dashSeveas: there is no /etc/environment, this is still in the installer10:37
starscallingevilmegaman::10:37
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, this is all very odd...how did you get to that stage - what was the sequence of the install?10:37
icarusapokryphos: I deleted it :(10:37
Seveasdash, eh right... /me gives up then10:37
Fredwhat's the format for adding lines to resolv.conf ?10:37
icarusapokryphos: i'll download it again :D10:37
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apokryphosSeveas: you have working skype debs for breezy?10:37
frank23apokryphos: icarus I think someone on the forums already created a new dep with appropriate dependancies10:37
WolekFred, do you need to add nameserver ?10:37
Seveashaving a headache, I'm doing only easy quetions today :)10:37
Seveasapokryphos, yeah10:37
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FredWolek: yes10:37
dashSeveas: anyway, it's en_US.UTF-810:37
icarusfrank23: really? do you know the url to that forum?10:38
jalvarezromdash, Where I have to put it?10:38
cjhcjhcjhFred, just servername    1.2.3.410:38
apokryphosSeveas: index page broken?10:38
Seveasapokryphos, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras (the repo stuff is down, the debs not)10:38
WolekFred, just write "nameserver ip_adress"10:38
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dashjalvarezrom: anywhere you like10:38
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Fredthanks cjhcjhcjh, Wolek :D10:38
dashjalvarezrom: chmod +x it, then run it10:38
apokryphosSeveas: ok, thanks.10:38
Wolekwhere ip_address is your dns10:38
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apokryphosicarus: download and install this: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb10:38
mc124hey, can i ask questions about linux in here?10:39
evilmegamanStarscalling sorry10:39
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Kyralmc124, yes10:39
HappyFoolsiucdude: i'm running out of ideas. in my opinion your previous menu.lst should have worked. I don't understand why you get this weird error message10:39
cjhcjhcjhmc124, you can ask ...10:39
jalvarezromdash, ok.10:39
dashmc124: if it's ubuntu linux :)10:39
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: i know its odd,  anyways i had dual boot xp and ubuntu 5.10 then i upgraded to vista for testing(this is my second pc) and then i only had vista booting so i got a live cd of ubuntu and did this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery10:39
mc124yeah know that :)10:39
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BlankCIs there a .deb(breezy) for gaim-silc ?10:39
Kyral"Upgrade" to Vista? More like downgrade...10:39
jrattner1ndiswrappers wants gcc-3.4 does ubuntu not have gcc-3.410:39
oris_wolfbanewhats the command to clear the package cache?:10:39
evilmegamanstarscalling, I installed sun java but when I do java --version it is gij...10:39
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: and so now i get this error ( i have done this before and never this error)10:39
mc124k, well i want to be able to read my windows files, how do i access them from ubuntu?10:39
dashKyral: Sidegrade!10:39
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Rawplayerhmm my install gives a kernel panic on a promise sataII 150 tx2plus card10:40
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HappyFoolsiucdude: i really don't know what the problem is, sorry10:40
Kyraljrattner1, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.410:40
Rawplayeranyone in here got problems with that to?10:40
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, would it be a lot of aggro to reinstall ubuntu? I suspect the vista partitioner screwed you up...and suspect that ubuntu would reinstall ok if you delete the partitions10:40
starscallingexactly that? "java --version" ?10:40
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evilmegamanyes10:40
dashmc124: hmm. is your windows filesystem NTFS or FAT32?10:40
icarusapokryphos: thanks man!10:40
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evilmegamanstarscalling, yes that is :)10:40
bimberioris_wolfbane: apt-get clean10:40
oris_wolfbanethanxks10:40
bimberiyw :)10:41
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: guys don't worry about it its my test pc,  i will try try to reinstall everything again clean see if i get the same error10:41
starscallingjava -version10:41
starscallingjava version "1.4.2-02"10:41
starscallingJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)10:41
starscallingJava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)10:41
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evilmegamanI used the .bin installer from sun to install java in /usr/java starscalling10:41
mc124dash: well i have drives with both of those10:41
starscallingoi sorry guys didnt realize that i did that many lines10:41
starscallingok so evilmegaman10:41
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, I think its a sequence thing...you know...always install linux LAST coz its sensible enough not to shag up the rest of the oss10:41
starscallingis that what your trying to get yours to say?10:41
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: thank you10:41
mc124but NTFS is most important i guess10:41
dashmc124: well, there's software in linux for reading and writing to fat32, but ntfs is read-only at this point10:41
Kyral!!ntfs10:41
ubotuNo idea, Kyral10:41
evilmegamanYessir starscalling10:41
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, np; please come back and let us know10:41
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starscallingok10:41
Kyral!ntfs10:42
ubotu[ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:42
HappyFoolsiucdude: ok. good luck10:42
starscallingfirst try one - before version10:42
starscalling:P10:42
dashoh hey10:42
evilmegamanokay..10:42
HappyFoolkronus-: how about 'dpkg -l libc6' ?10:42
dashubotu: botsnack10:42
ubotuthanks dash :)10:42
mc124dash: thats fine i just want to read my mp3s :P10:42
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: almost forgot is there a way to backup ubuntu settings10:42
dashmc124: cool. the link ubotu just gave then :)10:42
starscallingthen if thats no good follow this link10:42
evilmegamansame exact thing starscalling10:42
Kyral!tell mc124 about ntfs10:42
starscallinghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:42
evilmegamanjava version "1.4.2"10:42
evilmegamangij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)10:42
starscallingand click on java bit10:42
evilmegamanokay :)10:42
starscallingfollow EXACTLY10:43
starscalling:)10:43
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: since ubuntu works i wanted to backup bookmarks and settings so i can get the same after clean install10:43
starscallingyou need to have fakeroot in and stuff like that10:43
cjhcjhcjhsiucdude, not the easiest q ever ;-) depends what app...most apps write their config to /etc, so a copy of that helps10:43
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evilmegamanOh10:43
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starscalling:)10:43
HappyFoolsiucdude: you could backup /etc and /home, but be careful blindly restoring onto a working install10:43
evilmegamanSo I need to install fakeroot?10:43
siucdudeHappyFool, cjhcjhcjh:  that is what i was thinking just wanted to see if there was a shortcut   thank you again10:44
spolaare there many people who run hoary now and upgrade to breezy? ive got hoary here and its working pretty good, im wodering if i should bother to upgrade10:44
Wolekhmmm10:44
starscallingchmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin   >>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common >>>>> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin >>>>> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb10:44
cjhcjhcjhcopy etc before you kill it...then you can copy back the bits that you find you need10:44
mc124hmmm ok, bear with me. i'm new to this.. what exaclty do i do with the script?10:44
starscalling>>>> is step seperator :)10:44
starscallingholler my nick if you need more help ;)10:44
evilmegamanokay thanks starscalling10:45
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Hoxzerstrange10:45
dashmc124: read the 'using the script' bit, maybe? :)10:45
mc124will try that ;)10:45
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starscallingmy only confusion is why does it say (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)10:45
starscalling if its 1.5.0.05 or so10:45
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starscallinganyway its in :P10:45
cjhcjhcjhHappyFool, am now a bit sad coz I thought I knew about bootstraps...stuck with that one tho...maybe a vista thing?10:45
Hoxzerwhen I write "make install" after running ./configure the terminal just says "bash: make: command not found"10:45
jbroomeinstall  make10:46
tristanmikeHoxzer, "sudo apt-get install make"10:46
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starscallingand do yourself a favor evilmegaman :: " sudo apt-get install bittornado azureus " when your done putting java in :)10:46
shad0w1ehelp? How do I add environmental variables, permanently ??10:46
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HappyFoolcjhcjhcjh: i really don't know, sorry. very confusing10:46
jalvarezromdash, I probe it and work. Yoy know where to put it to change it when I start the system?10:46
HappyFoolHoxzer: install 'build-essential'10:46
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dashjalvarezrom: hmm? it should be permanent now10:47
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evilmegamanstarscalling, do I need a special repository for getting java-package and java-common?10:47
coolaj86I'm trying to install an app from source (and I've install build-essentials) but it is now complaining that I don't have usb.h. Do I need to install more?10:47
sedatchi all10:47
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dashcoolaj86: possibly. what's the app?10:48
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HappyFoolkronus-: scroll back ;)10:48
bimberiHoxzer: also, consider installing and using checkinstall and using it instead of "make install".  It makes uninstalling easier (if ever required)10:48
HappyFoolkronus-: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say ?10:48
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Fredwhat's the apt-get command to update any newer packages?10:48
coolaj86dash: scanbuttond10:48
HappyFoolFred: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade10:49
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Fredthanks HappyFool :)10:49
reterwhat is the file to get java on your mozilla browsers10:49
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JDigitalupgrading now10:49
kronus-aha10:49
basscrhow do i change enlinghtenment desktop backgrouns ?10:49
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cjhcjhcjhJDigital, you and every other person on the net...sigh10:50
kronus-http://rafb.net/paste/results/a4Y8fz70.html10:50
JDigitalI don't mind, I can only download 40KB/sec anyway10:50
JDigitaler10:50
reterno one knows how to add java on mozilla browser?10:50
JDigitalI can only download a maximum of 55KB/sec10:50
JDigitalreter: I did it once but I forget how10:50
reterJDigital, thats helpful10:50
HappyFooli can only dload at 4KB/sec :P. I'll be installing breezy on sunday at this rate10:51
cjhcjhcjhJDigital, I average 900kbps...tonight,, about same as you!10:51
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mwereter: ln -s /path/to/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/you/.mozilla/plugins/10:51
JDigitalwe are like brethren10:51
HappyFoolkronus-: ah-ha indeed. you have a non-ubuntu glibc10:51
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pr1smI have multiple sound devices in my computer, could someone please tell me how to select the default10:51
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dashcoolaj86: i am guessing you need libusb-dev10:51
HappyFoolkronus-: abandon all hope ye who enter here, etc ;)10:51
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cjhcjhcjhlol10:51
finalplayerHow to make a connection to the internet?10:52
coolaj86dash: I've been using gentoo where everything for installing from source was there from the get-go. Now I've switched so that my bro and sis can use my PC too. Thanks for your help. I'll try that10:52
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kronus-so...do i panic now?10:52
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, I reckon you have one...10:52
Seveas!tell reter about java10:52
finalplayeryes10:52
_ShoGo_Hi all10:52
finalplayerI'm in Windows nox10:52
finalplayer*now10:52
HappyFoolkronus-: i'm not sure what the one true fix is, but you can try forcing an install of the ubuntu glibc10:52
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retermwe no such file or directory10:52
finalplayeri want to connect while in Linux10:52
_ShoGo_Im a spanish ubuntu user... and i need help with ati graphics accelerator10:52
Seveaspr1sm, system -> prefs -> sound10:52
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kronus-HappyFool: how do i do that?10:53
apokryphosreter: if you get the deb it'll put everything in the appropriate place. /msg ubotu javadebs10:53
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cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, ubuntu should be al lnice and connected from install, no probs...try ping cisco.com - if you get a response, your on the net10:53
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_ShoGo_Anyone help me please, send me a query10:53
dash_ShoGo_: just ask10:53
dash_ShoGo_: also, there is #ubuntu-es10:53
_ShoGo_dash, it is too long to explain here10:53
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mc124dash: thanx a lot, easier than i thought :)10:53
HappyFoolkronus-: something like 'sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14'   -- this is a big guess! maybe ask Seveas or someone more knowledgeable first10:53
finalplayerI'm running from the Live CD, is it possible that this is the reason for my problem?10:53
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coolaj86dash: that worked great. For future reference, how can I tell which package I need to install to get a certain file?10:54
pr1smseveas, thankyou10:54
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mwereter: substitute /path/to with the right path to jre and /home/you with /home/<your user name>10:54
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_, youd be suprised...have a go at explaining it briefly here10:54
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ThomasMHrm. Trying to sync stuff up with my webserver.  It works fine if I type in the password, but setting RSYNC_PASSWORD or using --password-file fail.  What am I missing?10:54
ThomasMIt doesn't tell me it fails, though.  It just asks for my password, which is what rsync does if I type in the wrong password, anyway, so I'm making a bit of an assumption.10:54
_ShoGo_Ok, i will try10:54
mc124and thanx to the others that helped10:54
kronus-HappyFool : that worked, i think10:54
dashcoolaj86: well, i cheated a little, i did "dpkg -S /usr/include/usb.h" and dpkg told me where i installed it from :)10:54
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, what is the specific problem?10:54
kronus-it still gave teh errors about locales10:54
kronus-how do i fix those?10:54
alsyrColonelKernel: using another graphics card. works fine now. thanks.10:54
dashcoolaj86: but in general, -dev packages have the includes and so forth for shared libs10:54
HappyFoolkronus-: install locales now?10:54
kronus-aha10:54
kronus-right10:54
_ShoGo_I can't edit xorg.conf with the new config.. it gives me an error like byte sequence us unvalid for the conversion entrance...10:55
finalplayerI don't know how to connect my computer to the internet10:55
_ShoGo_I have tried to translate properly10:55
HappyFoolkronus-: in fact, you might want to install ubuntu-base to get things 'right' again10:55
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finalplayerI suppose I have to configure something to establish my connectiobn10:55
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_ShoGo_Anyone can help me please?10:55
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cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, you are booting the live cd? and does firefox not work - the web browser, that is?10:55
ubuntu_hello :)10:55
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kronus-ok, locales and localeconf are installed10:56
finalplayerindeed10:56
kronus-run both?10:56
bimberikronus-: my upgrade gave lots of locales related warnings, it didn't stop the process and once the locales package got reconfigured they stopped10:56
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_,  did you use sudo gedit? or su? you need to be root to edit that file10:56
HappyFoolkronus-: well, try the perl thing again10:56
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barnes_Can anyone help me connect to the internet on ubuntu? I'm having trouble.10:56
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh,  yes, im logued as root..10:56
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, and what happens when you try to connect?10:56
dashbarnes_: what's up10:56
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spolai can just run dist-upgrade from a terminal on my desktop?10:57
finalplayerFirefox "tells" me it's not able to find the pae10:57
finalplayer*page10:57
cjhcjhcjh_shogo_ why are you editing it?10:57
coolaj86dash: `dpkg -S /path/to/file` is just the cheat I'm looking for10:57
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh, my guide to configure mi ati graphics accelerator asks me to do tha10:57
barnes_dash: I'm using a d-link dwl 520, andI can not get it to connect to the internet.10:57
_ShoGo_*that10:57
kronus-sseems to not complain anymore, thanks10:57
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HappyFoolspola: should work, assuming you've setup sources.list correctly10:57
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dashcoolaj86: only works if it's installed though :)10:57
HappyFoolkronus-: ok. as i said, maybe install ubuntu-base to get things back to normal10:57
HappyFoolkronus-: and check your /etc/apt/sources.list10:58
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_, ok...so you have a new graphics card?    Did it work before?10:58
ompaulspola, read this before you do and then all will be known http://tinyurl.com/dkllj10:58
dashbarnes_: which kind of internet?10:58
barnes_cable wireless.10:58
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ompaul!tell barnes_ about wireless10:58
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reterhow do i put this in sources http://tinyurl.com/bwomt10:58
spolayeah i was following that :-p10:58
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, can you connect using a different operating system on the same computer?10:58
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ompaulbarnes_, read the message from ubotu10:58
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh, i have a new linux... i have been windows xp user until 6 days ago :))10:58
HappyFoolcable wireless sounds like an oxymoron ;)10:58
apokryphosreter: you don't10:59
finalplayercjhcjhcjh: yes10:59
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finalplayeri have a DSL connection10:59
_ShoGo_The card works... The matter is that i can't play 3d games.. properly10:59
sampanpppoeconf?10:59
finalplayerbut i have to establish it manually10:59
treviscan anyone help me with nvidia drivers?10:59
bimberiHappyFool: lol10:59
finalplayerit's not a permanent connection10:59
barnes_ompaul: I found mine on there, and there is a howtoo link for it, but that dosn't work at all.10:59
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer are you using that machine now, or a differnet one? ie do you have access to the booted livecd ubuntu as we speak?10:59
evilmegamananyone have any idea how to get java-package? I can't find that package with apt-get or adept :-/10:59
sedatcI installed an deb package after I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive fiel10:59
trevisi isntalled them like it says on the wiki page, but it tells me "no screens found"10:59
dashHappyFool: it's the cable that isn't a cable10:59
finalplayercjhcjhcjh: no11:00
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dashhappyfool or a wireless connection to something connected to a cable11:00
sampanfinalplayer, i had to run pppoeconf once to config my dsl connection11:00
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_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh, then, can u help me?11:00
cjhcjhcjh_Shogo_ so ubuntu only gives you a command prompt? You cannot get the graphic interface?11:00
evilmegamanoh where is the ubuntu extra repositories and multiverse for breezy?11:00
finalplayerwhere can i put my isp information and such?11:00
bimberievilmegaman: it's in the multiverse repository11:00
_ShoGo_Umm, can i open a query with u cjhcjhcjh ?11:00
kevogodWill Dapper Drake have a PPTP/VPN client?11:00
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bimberiubotu tell evilmegaman about repositories11:00
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, no to which q...are you on the same pc now?11:00
pderUBUNTU ARE NOT RUN ON COMPUTER11:01
HappyFool*sigh*11:01
apokryphospder: drop the caps11:01
treviswhere can i find the source for the 2.6.12-9 kernel?11:01
_ShoGo_evilmegaman, in the official page surely11:01
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evilmegamanthanks bimberi :)11:01
kevogodAnd I mean, one with a GUI front-end that works well.11:01
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_, ask here...its likely someone else will solve the problem,,.,but maybe I can help to define it11:01
bimberievilmegaman: yw :)11:01
pder!tell HappyFool about conduct11:01
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apokryphospder: please stop being annoying11:01
_ShoGo_Umm, it is hard to explain in english11:01
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_ShoGo_Ok, i 'll try11:01
HappyFooltrevis: linux-source-2.6.12 -- but you probably want linux-headers-386 (or -686, or something)11:01
finalplayercjhcjhcjh: i have to switch to the OS, it's OR Ubuntu OR Windows (one pc available)11:01
pder!tell apokryphos about conduct11:01
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cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer, ok, gotcha...just trying to clarify what we can try here.11:02
sedatcI installed an deb package. After I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive file.How can I handle this11:02
_ShoGo_My guide asks me to install some ... modules and then edit xorg.conf, to change and add some values11:02
JuhazI guess he forgot to tell himself about conduct...11:02
_ShoGo_And it doesn't let me save them11:02
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trevisHappyFool, im using it for the nvidia driver installation script, form nvidia's website11:02
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ompaulbarnes_, if I understood you you can't get to that web page?11:03
HappyFooltrevis: you want linux-headers-38611:03
ompaulbarnes_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E111:03
HappyFooltrevis: what does uname -r say?11:03
dash_ShoGo_: what are you editing it with?11:03
_ShoGo_gedit11:03
dashhm11:03
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_ShoGo_hm?11:03
cjhcjhcjhfinalplayer to be honest the bootable version will be hard to troubleshoot...if you install the "real" version...we migth have a chance.....folks here, correct me if I am wrong - can anyone troubleshoot the liveCD?11:03
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dashi wonder if there's some charset problem?11:03
evilmegamanbimberi, on this page: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 , do I add the last repository?11:03
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astromanl11:04
JDigital_Augh! Where's the idiot who told me that 500MB free space was enough to upgrade Hoary?11:04
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JDigital_It's failed halfway through!11:04
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_ShoGo_dash,  what is charset??11:04
sedatcI installed an deb package. After I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive file.How can I handle this11:04
JDigital_Now I have zero space11:04
_ShoGo_I'll paste the error wait11:04
_ShoGo_Unmatched element: citerefentry11:04
_ShoGo_Unmatched element: refentrytitle11:04
_ShoGo_The terminal says that..11:05
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_,  can you save the file under a different name?11:05
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_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh,  i will try wait11:05
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dashsedatc: usually "apt-get update" will help with that11:05
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jrattner1What is thiis /uisr/share/ubuntu artwork error and how do i fix it11:05
JDigital_I had 580MB free and even that was not enough11:05
_ShoGo_I can11:05
_ShoGo_I can't11:05
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EppuJDigital: try removing everyting from /var/cache/apt/archive11:05
cjhcjhcjhJDigital_, too much pr0n, too little time, eh?11:05
Eppueverything11:05
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HappyFool_ShoGo_: what card is it?11:06
barnes_ompaul: I got that page, Ijust don't undersatand it, it dosn't owrk for me.11:06
ompaulJDigital_, paste the output of >fdisk -l< in paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:06
_ShoGo_ati radeon 960011:06
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JDigital_You can never have too much pron11:06
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syndWhat repos do I need for Limewire?11:06
syndIt's not showing up11:06
HappyFool_ShoGo_: are you following the instructions on the wiki?11:06
JDigital_I can't paste. I'm using irssi via PuTTY because "ssh" never worked on my machine and xchat won't start any more11:06
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_ShoGo_im following the instructions on ubuntu-es11:06
_ShoGo_:))11:06
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starscalling>.>11:07
WildBillwhiprush, ping! :)11:07
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HappyFool!tell _ShoGo_ about ati11:07
ompaulbarnes_, I do not have your hardware and so can't test it, but saying you don't understand it gives me a clue :) maybe you need help translating the instructions on that page - where do you start to have an issue11:07
HappyFool_ShoGo_: take a look at that page on the wiki11:07
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_, you cannot save the file as something else?11:07
JDigital_Hm, what's the trick you use to have the files download to another place?11:07
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JDigital_I know it's a symlink but I forget where11:07
cjhcjhcjhMaybe _ShoGo_  has a simple permissions problem11:07
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh,  i can't. I have just tried to save it with a differente name11:07
borgistaJDigital: which program?11:07
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_ShoGo_No, im logued as root cjhcjhcjh11:07
EppuJDigital: symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to another directory11:07
JDigital_Synaptic.11:07
StarKruzrwhiprush is here?11:08
JDigital_How do I do that again?11:08
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_, can you save it to a different directory?11:08
StarKruzras in Ars Technica whiprush?11:08
bozelhow can i program with gcc?11:08
borgistaJDigital, just use wget instead of Synaptic.11:08
StarKruzrholy shit.11:08
JDigital_Not a chance.11:08
whiprushStarKruzr: yeah11:08
borgistaJDigital: use apt-get to only download the file.11:08
whiprushWildBill: yo11:08
StarKruzrhey man.  small Interweb.11:08
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barnes_ompaul: I try to extract the host ap source, and it says it dosn't exisit. I use the same code they have in it.I have the hostap driver on a disk, but IU don't kknow if that will help.11:08
syndWhat repos do I need for Limewire?11:08
syndIt's not showing up11:08
whiprushheh11:08
apokryphossynd: it's not in any repository; get it from their site.11:08
borgistasynd: I think you need to install it yourself.11:08
WildBillhey whiprush -- got a sec to go PM?11:09
JDigital_How do I symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to anotehr directory11:09
whiprushyeah11:09
syndBleh. It used to be.11:09
StarKruzrnot that I've been on isis in a while, but stil11:09
apokryphosJDigital_: man ln11:09
cjhcjhcjhsynd, I give up, tell me, what repos do you need for Limewire?11:09
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh,  wait..11:09
StarKruzrl11:09
JDigital_ok11:09
syndIIRC.11:09
jrattner1How can i reverse the ndiswrapper -m step11:09
whiprushStarKruzr: me either11:09
borgistaln -s /var/cache/apt/archives /other/directory11:09
StarKruzrwhich reminds me.11:09
JDigital_thanks11:09
syndcjhcjhcjh: Hush.11:09
sedatcdash : it doesnt help11:09
EppuJDigital: remove the directory with rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives and then ln -s /some/other/place /var/cache/apt/archives11:09
jrattner1ubotu tell cjhcjhcjh  about limewire11:09
JDigital_Will it matter if /other/directory is FAT32?11:09
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apokryphosJDigital_: nope11:10
ompaulbarnes_, have you enabled universe in the repos?11:10
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apokryphosJDigital_: as long as you can write to it and it's properly mounted11:10
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh,  I can't11:10
poimenhi11:10
ompaulbarnes_, did you understand my question?11:10
JDigital_Wait, is /var/cache/apt/archives the first or second parameter?11:10
reterok i downloaded the java files...how do i install them?11:10
barnes_ompaul: Do you mean changing to the root? I did that.11:10
poimenI have downloaded ubuntu 5.10 and also kubuntu 5.1011:10
apokryphosreter: dpkg -i somepackage.deb11:10
ompaulbarnes_, no I did not mean that11:10
apokryphospoimen: congrats11:10
ompaulbarnes_, this is going to take some time11:10
poimenI downloaded both and burned the isos upto speed in my 40x cd-rw and I get in both a error in the install11:10
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_,  ok, so you are editing a text file, and you can not save it anywhere? e.g. /home/username???11:11
jrattner1modprobe config already contains alias directive  How do i remove this alias11:11
_ShoGo_Yes, I have tried /home/shogo11:11
HappyFooldoes anyone know where i can find out more about the ubuntu 'server edition' breezy cd ?11:11
barnes_ompaul: Yeah, I noticed. This is my first time converting to linux.11:11
poimenshould I burn it at a low speed?11:11
EppuJDigital: the second11:11
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cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_,  which editor are you using?11:11
_ShoGo_gedit11:11
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JDigital_ok11:11
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_ShoGo_Sorry about my english ok ? I'm doing my best :))11:11
ompaulbarnes_, msg me please and I will go through this one step at a time, this channel is too busy11:11
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penguin42hmm - 3h35m to go - me thinks I'll leave this dist-upgrade to go overnight - its times like this when I wish I had a faster DSL11:11
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_,  no problem....11:12
bozelhow can i use gcc?11:12
cjhcjhcjh...anyone know why someone editing a text file in gedit would be unable to save it to their home dir?11:12
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bozelis it installed in default?11:12
penguin42bozel: gcc myprog.c -o myprog11:12
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HappyFoolbozel: well, first install 'build-essential'11:12
starscallingErrors were encountered while processing:11:12
starscalling msttcorefonts11:12
starscallingenyc: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:12
starscalling <<<--- er huh? what would that mean?11:12
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trevishow can i make apt-get use a different server?11:12
HappyFool_ShoGo_: try with nano instead?11:12
JDigital_Uh oh. Synaptic doesn't seem to want to start.11:12
borgistatrevis: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list11:12
HappyFool_ShoGo_: 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  -- shouldn't be too hard to use11:13
kevogodcjhcjhcjh, Was this text file opened up from a resource outside of the home directory?11:13
_ShoGo_HappyFool, the web you gave me is for installing ati official drivers, isn't it?11:13
cjhcjhcjhkevogod, yes11:13
_ShoGo_I know nano, i'm gonna try11:13
kevogodcjhcjhcjh, Well, then the user most likely does not have writes to edit the file.11:13
HappyFool_ShoGo_: well, for installing ubuntu-packaged ati drivers11:13
sam_Is it possible to write to an NTFS disk?11:13
JDigital_"synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"11:13
kevogodcjhcjhcjh, *rights11:13
cjhcjhcjhkevogod, would that stop him saving it elsewhere?11:13
_ShoGo_I'm trying to install it with ubuntu drivers... ati drivers are bad..11:13
JDigital_Ugh, I should have known better than to listen to random goofs on IRC.11:14
dashsam_: not easily, or safely11:14
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EppuJDigital: try upgrading with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:14
sam_I think I'm gonna have to do a fresh breezy install... so it would be nice if I could temporarily store stuff on the NTFS partition.11:14
dashJDigital_: IRC knows everything11:14
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kevogodcjhcjhcjh, It shouldn't.11:14
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HappyFoolJDigital_: you running breezy?11:14
JDigital_Yes, but it also knows incorrect things11:14
dashJDigital_: that's part of everything!11:14
fluvvelldoes anyone know when the full version of Breezy is due out?11:14
JDigital_I'm upgrading to it11:14
HappyFoolJDigital_: cos my synaptic doesn't link to cairo (i'm still on hoary)11:14
cjhcjhcjhkevogod, which makes me think the problem is not what it appears to be11:14
dashfluvvell: yes!11:14
JDigital_fluvvell: yesterday11:14
kevogodcjhcjhcjh, As long as you are able to view the file, you should able to save it somewhere you have rights to.11:14
fluvvellwoo hoo!11:14
cjhcjhcjhkevogod, sure11:15
JDigital_It crashed in the middle of upgrading because I ran out of disk space11:15
dashJDigital_: wow, that's special11:15
JDigital_Someone on IRC told me ~500MB would be ebough11:15
JDigital_enough11:15
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dashenough for what?11:15
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JDigital_temp disk space to upgrade11:15
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dashJDigital_: from what?11:15
JDigital_I had 580MB free11:15
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JDigital_Hoary -> Breezy11:15
HappyFoolhe did a dist-upgrade11:15
JDigital_with synaptic11:15
HappyFoolwell, the synaptic equivalent ('smart upgrade', i guess)11:15
cjhcjhcjhJDigital_, depends what apps you have...YMMV11:15
penguin42JDigital: I think it depends what you have installed, its downloading 651MB for me11:15
dashJDigital_: oh. yeah, i would doubt that11:15
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bozelhow can i search a file?11:16
bozelin the terminal?11:16
JDigital_It downloaded more than 500Mb but less than 580MB11:16
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HappyFoolbozel: use grep. grep 'a string to search for' filename.txt11:16
cjhcjhcjhbozel, cat <file> |fgrep something11:16
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JDigital_but in unpacking and such it used up more space11:16
penguin42JDigital: Yeh - its a bit close to the wind, I'd say you want a good 100MB more than its going to download11:17
cjhcjhcjhbozel, or vi <file>    to edit, then forward-slash something11:17
bozelno11:17
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JDigital_I didn't have much space to begin with11:17
bozeli want to find a file in a directory11:17
stealhi all11:17
IcemanV9JDigital_: try 'sudo apt-get autoclean' - hope it'll clean up some space11:17
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HappyFoolbozel: use 'locate'11:17
cjhcjhcjhbozel ls -lR |fgrep name11:17
JDigital_Unable to read /var/cache/apt/archives/partial11:17
_ShoGo_well nano let me save it11:18
jrattner1my system locks up every time ii modprobe ndiswrapper11:18
HappyFoole.g., 'locate synaptic'11:18
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JDigital_which may bec because I deleted that.11:18
cjhcjhcjh_ShoGo_,  cool, ok now?11:18
uihow do i copy some files to another  carpet ? with the terminal11:18
ricardoola11:18
_ShoGo_HappyFool,  and cjhcjhcjh  thanks11:18
_ShoGo_cjhcjhcjh, I hope that11:18
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_ShoGo_Im gonna finish the instructions and then see11:18
_ShoGo_Thanks all11:18
guru54anyone know how to fix this error? usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted , Im using ubuntu 5.10 and gnomad2 2.8.0 ?11:18
_ShoGo_I g2g for dinner11:18
_ShoGo_See u soon :D:D11:18
cjhcjhcjhui err...carpet?11:18
ricardowhat I have to do to instal emacs on ubuntu??11:18
JDigital_Now synaptic won't open because it already deleted the old libcairo.so.211:18
HappyFoolui: another carpet? you may need a warp/woof filesystem driver ... ;)11:18
JDigital_or so I assume11:18
IcemanV9guru54: sudo11:18
EppuJDigital_: you might want to try series of partial upgrades. Pick one package install it with apt-get install package and remove everything from /var/cache/apt/archives/ after that11:18
JDigital_I didn't get a manual with htis11:18
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uiwhat i want to do is this11:19
bytecoderouch11:19
uisudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/ /home/olaff/Desktop/gaim/11:19
cjhcjhcjhJDigital_, pr0n usually zips quite well ;-)11:19
starscallinghey im having trouble with the msttcorefonts package:11:19
bytecodermy hoary install got completely b0rked by apt-get11:19
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starscallingall of the links for the fonts time out11:19
uiwhat is wrong in it?11:19
stealdo you know how can i install my lexmark x1170 multifunction ???11:19
starscallingwould anyone know where one could get those?11:19
JDigital_I didn't have any pron on this drive.11:19
JDigital_It's all on my other partition.11:19
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JDigital_:)11:19
guru54IcemanV9, how do i do that with gnomad2 ?11:19
JDigital_Oh wow.11:19
stealthe printer work well but the scanner...11:19
steali don't have any idea11:19
HappyFoolui: try   'cp -R /usr/share/pixmaps/* /home/olaff/Desktop/gaim/'11:19
JDigital_apt-get installing anything gives me a millionty unmet dependencies11:19
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EppuJDigital_: pick one of the dependencies and install that first11:20
IcemanV9guru54: Operation not permitted -> means you need to use 'sudo'11:20
rdario_mxBACK11:20
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syndAny way to install an RPM?11:20
bozeli have installed gcc, but if i press "gcc" it says "command not found"11:20
bozelwhat to do?11:20
fluvvellcan anyone explain the root priveliges system to me? I cant sudo anymore or run update-manager and I need to figure out why11:20
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HappyFoolbozel: did you install 'build-essential' ?11:20
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bytecoderfluvvell, sudo allows you to run stuff as root11:21
fluvvellI've been a mandrake user in the past11:21
HappyFool!tell fluvvell about root11:21
bytecoderfluvvell, but it doesn't actually log in as root11:21
guru54ah ok thx IcemanV9  i got it to work11:21
HappyFoolfluvvell: that wiki page will tell you quite a bit about it11:21
bytecoderroot has no password on a default ubuntu system11:21
bozelno11:21
bozeli try11:21
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bytecodergrr11:21
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bytecoderand now I can't even mount the partition from the live cd11:21
bytecoderthis sucks11:22
IcemanV9:)11:22
fluvvellHappyFool: Thanks, reading now11:22
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bytecoderEXT2-fs: hda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).11:22
cjhcjhcjhsynd sudo rpm -i packagename11:22
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FliesLikeADeskwhy do i get a segmentation fault when i try to run a program i just installed from apt?11:22
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bytecoderFliesLikeABrick, something's screwed up11:22
HappyFoolcjhcjhcjh: on an ubuntu system? ;)11:22
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bytecoderFliesLikeABrick, unless the name of the program is "seg-fault"11:22
FliesLikeADeskthanks bytecoder , didn't know that11:22
bozelthx 2 HappyFool, now its working11:22
bozel:)11:22
FliesLikeADesk.11:22
bytecoder:)11:22
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bytecoderhappy to help11:23
bytecoderhehe11:23
bytecoderit might be the program11:23
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bytecoderit might be apt-get11:23
bytecoderthat's what happens when you're too vague11:23
cjhcjhcjhHappyFool, ahh...ok...on mine11:23
bytecoderif that's all you know, you need to find out more11:23
bytecoderyou can't expect people to read your mind11:23
JDigital_Okay, back to playing Gameboy11:23
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bytecodercjhcjhcjh, they do11:24
FremHas anyone seen Ubuntu Lite? I love the concept, but it looks really, really alphaish.11:24
JDigital_If you beat Metroid quick enough I hear you get Samus in a bathing suit11:24
cjhcjhcjhlol11:24
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kronus-o.011:24
bytecodershe's my girlfriend, you know11:24
bytecodersamus11:24
dandelgrr... i got my network working but when i launch it i wind up stuck disabling my interface so i can login to gnome :|11:24
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bytecoderdandel, don't use gnome, then?11:25
bytecodersigh11:25
dandelit's what is used by default by ubuntu11:25
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bytecoderI'll try and mount my home directory11:25
bytecodercan you launch vanilla X?11:25
bytecodererr11:25
cjhcjhcjhok, is 6'30AM, time to get coffee and donuts...bbl11:25
bytecoderrun11:25
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bytecoderoh ffs11:26
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Ekibyougamiwee, it only took me about 2 hours to get my wireless working correctly11:26
bytecoderI can't even mount my home directory's partition11:26
bytecodere11:26
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bytecoderEkibyougami, lucky11:26
bytecoderoh!11:26
Ekibyougamibroadcom is the evil11:26
bytecoderI'll pass the init=/bin/sh option the the kernel and boot off the partition11:27
bytecoderthat way I can actually fix X!11:27
bytecoderyay!11:27
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bytecoderbye11:27
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bytecoderoh, and the default window border is ugly, by the way11:27
bytecoderat least in the breezy live cd11:27
bytecoderbye11:27
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[LethAL] Ekibyougami, I use a broadcom-based router... reliable here, I just hate the rt2570-based wireless adapter11:27
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Ekibyougamimy laptop came with a pci wireless card11:28
letedmini pci?11:28
Ekibyougamiwich of course doesnt have a gpl driver11:28
woodwizzleI'm trying to install breezy on a desktop, but its not detecting any ethernet cards. I have a netgear wg311 v3 pci G wireless card installed though :(11:28
letedor pmcia?11:28
cjhcjhcjhhmm...gambatte11:28
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Ekibyougamimini pci11:28
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borgistawoodwizzle: my card wasn't detected until after installation.11:28
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syndWhat's the cmd to install a .deb?11:29
[LethAL] !tell synd about dpkg11:29
dooglussudo dpkg -i <deb-file>11:29
borgistadpkg -i *.deb11:29
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woodwizzleborgista, ah so I should just continue on through then? Ok, i'll try that11:29
syndAh. Thanks. I have a terrible mem.11:29
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borgistaYes woodwizzle.11:29
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bettong_BOFHok i need help11:29
lampshadesynd:  Is that a debian .deb or one for Ubuntu?11:29
borgistawoodwizzle: then configure with wireless-tools such as: iwconfig11:29
Ekibyougamipatriot ram = terrible mem =x11:29
bettong_BOFHi installed ndswrapper and tryed to get my wlan0 card to run and it won't no matter what i do11:30
lampshadesynd:  Just reminding that although they can work back and forth they are guaranteed to11:30
dooglusthe channel's full of jokers tonight! :)11:30
bettong_BOFHcan someone please help me11:30
Ekibyougamibettong, i just got done doing that on mine11:30
stperesomeone know what I should look for... I'm using ndiswrapper, it says driver present, hardware present... but once the module is loaded, I can't change the essid with iwconfig11:30
bettong_BOFHcan you help me?11:30
Ekibyougamiwich driver does your card use?11:30
stpereno error message, just no changing11:30
kronus-does apache need anything to work with mysql?11:30
kronus-and vice versa11:30
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Ekibyougamikronus, check out http://apachefriends.org11:31
stpereI tried the demo version of driverloader (from linuxant) and it works fine with the same ndis driver11:31
kronus-ya, been there11:31
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Ekibyougamistpere, do sudo ifdown wlan011:31
Ekibyougamiand then try to change it11:31
aziquecan somebody pleeaase tell me, how to change the mentioned config.mk to fit Ubuntu? :D -> http://pastebin.com/39391511:31
stperenice, let me try11:31
HappyFoolkronus-: i think you need some other glue bit (php, perl, python...)11:31
kronus-well, i already ahve php installed11:32
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Ekibyougamii just use xampp11:32
HappyFoolkronus-: i think there's a mysql php package11:32
Ekibyougamisince it has apache mysql, php and all that jazz11:32
kronus-but in the ubuntu wiki, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=ApachePHPMySQL, it says i need a mmod_auth for apache11:32
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HappyFoolkronus-: php4-mysql, at a guess11:32
fluvvellHappyFool: Thanks for the pointer, I made one mistake - I changed my default group to a shared one and it altered all my priveleges.  I couldn't sudo.  So I've sorted it out, made myself a member of admin and was able to access the user and group mod stuff again.11:32
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HappyFoolfluvvell: cool11:33
DaSkreechcan I install luminocity in Ubuntu?11:33
syndlampshade: It's a RPM converted to DEB11:33
kronus-however, i installed apache 1.3, not apache2, so there's no mod_auth module11:33
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pinucsetamarok project needs money. Please consider giving them a little donation. Down-right in http://amarok.kde.org/11:33
dandelbytecoder, so you say get kde?11:33
HappyFoolkronus-: ah. maybe just use apache2 ;)11:33
[LethAL] Maybe when it gets a GTK2 interface pinucset :P11:33
kronus-i had a prob with it11:34
jackmacokchelp!  my breezy install will not boot after initial install, i think it has to do with my PCI nvidia card11:34
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stperestill nothing11:34
kronus-apache2 disliked its own control module11:34
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lampshadesynd:  I don't know in that case.  I just wanted to mention the other thing though because I've seen people complain that Ubuntu sucks because it rejected debian .debs  which is stupid since Ubuntu never said they will work.  If they do you got lucky not because they are really supposed to.11:35
stpereiwlist does see my AP11:35
captevil-twoWhat's a good, GTK2 frontend for mplayer? gmplayer looks kind of ugly.11:35
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fredforfaendoes anybody here have exoerience with phpsysinfo?11:35
HappyFoolkronus-: my impression is that ubuntu's standard http server is apache2; i'd persevere with that11:35
starscallingbingo!11:35
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lampshadeI feel a netsplit11:36
starscallingso if i have the source fonts for msttcorefonts how can i put them in my system so that it can run it?11:36
Ekibyougamistpere, what i did was dissabled using ifdown, then rebooted, set it all up in iwconfig, used iwconfig commit11:36
syndlampshade: I'm aware. Been using Ubuntu since Warty :)11:36
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Ekibyougamirebooted again and then set up the essid11:36
fredforfaenanyone?11:36
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DaSkreechHow would I get Wobbly windows?11:36
HappyFoolspambots, i reckon11:36
starscallingthe package is broken atm as the dling from sourceforge bit the links time out11:36
kronus-spam?11:36
syndlampshade: There are many people out there that judge Ubuntu unfairly.11:36
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kronus-yeah, spambots11:36
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[LethAL] Yup11:36
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stpereEkibyougami, ok, I will try that iwconfig commit11:36
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lampshadesynd:  yeah, like I said I ran into a guy like that just a few days ago11:36
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[LethAL] !ops11:37
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uboturumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth11:37
pupil[LethAL] , Hey , how are yah !11:37
jackmacokcjesus..cant someone do something about spam bots11:37
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jrattner1Why does my entire system lock up when modprobing ndiswrappers even though ndiswrapper detects the driver and hardware?11:37
[LethAL] jackmacokc, I just did11:37
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leelame...11:37
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jackmacokcyou sure lethal? this is ridiculous11:37
Seveasreturn of the spamcrap11:37
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HappyFool*yay*11:37
jackmacokcthere we go11:37
[LethAL] See :)11:37
jackmacokcthanks11:37
jackmacokcthat was brutal11:37
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dandelhmm11:38
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aziquehach, no one there who knows how to configure that PCMCIA-driver? :(11:38
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[LethAL] (!)ops > spambots11:38
pupil[LethAL] , I have a P133 system with like 64mb edo ram.  I want to put linux on it,. I tried installing ubuntu server ,. but it didnt even get to that point11:38
fredforfaenanyone?11:38
dandelwtf.... synaptic keeps having segmentatino faults11:38
[LethAL] pupil, Use a smaller distro11:38
jackmacokcanyone know of problems with PCI graphics in breezy?11:38
[LethAL] dandel, purge it and apt-get it again11:38
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naliothpupil: try damn small linux11:38
pupil[LethAL] , what I mean is,. when I put in the cd,. it tried to boot from the cd,. but all I saw was the cursur blinking, and nothing happened.11:39
Ekibyougamior SOL11:39
pupilnalioth, I have damn small,. does it use apt-get?11:39
DaSkreechDoes anyone have luminocity running on Ubunut?11:39
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naliothpupil: it is debian based, yes11:39
[LethAL] Odd, no idea pupil11:39
Ekibyougamii think DS has apt-get11:40
pupil[LethAL] , I've used it before,. I couldnt remember if it used apt-get,.11:40
pupilnalioth, I have also tried feather linux11:40
pupilnalioth, what I'm curious about is if a default install will detect and install my network card.. its wireless g card11:41
Ekibyougamidepends on the chipset pupil11:41
pupilEkibyougami, same thing nalioth said.11:41
Ekibyougamido you know what chipset it uses?11:41
pupilI gotta go check., .. i'm lazy11:41
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Ekibyougamilol11:41
pupilEkibyougami, nah,. i gotta go open her up11:41
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qt2i'm having problems using backports as decriped in http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html#addingbackports ...does anyone know why?11:42
dandellethal... how do i do that?11:42
FliesLikeADeskqt2,  are you on breezy or hoary11:42
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Ekibyougamiyou should be able to find the chipset without opening it up11:43
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DaSkreechdapper ;)11:43
Ekibyougamijust go to the manufacturer website and look at the specs :p11:43
FliesLikeADeskqt2,  if you're on breezy, there are no backports yet11:43
pupilWhats the differnece between breezy and hoary,. I have installed both,. not on the same system,. I noticed some suttle differences in menu and nautilus.,11:43
qt2FliesLikeADesk: breezy.11:43
pupilbut I didint explore much more than that11:43
nicoalooo breezy is out... when did this occur?11:43
FliesLikeADesk!tell qt2 about breezy11:43
naliothpupil: that all depends on what chipset your card uses11:43
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FliesLikeADesker whoops11:43
HappyFoolnicoal: yesterday ;)11:44
FliesLikeADesk!tell qt2 about backports11:44
nicoalHappyFool, awesome!11:44
qt2FliesLikeADesk: someone should change it so it doesnt say "Backports is now available." then... :o11:44
pupilnalioth, where do i go and check to see compatiblity?11:44
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HappyFoolpupil: breezy is newer; it's presumably generally better11:44
Rawplayerwhats the problem with ubuntu/gcc/ and a new kernel?11:44
Rawplayerwhen i run make menuconfig it gets spitted with gcc stuff11:44
pupilRawplayer, it was compilied with 3.411:44
jrattner1When installing ndiswrappers based on the ndiswrappers wiki entry, has it changed because the repository now containts the current ndiswrapper11:44
Ekibyougamibreezy is already so much more stable than the preview was11:44
dandelLethAL, well?11:44
stealsteal@steallab:~/el$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.alioth.debian.org:/cvsroot/sane login11:44
stealLogging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.alioth.debian.org:2401/cvsroot/sane11:44
stealCVS password:11:44
stealwait11:44
naliothpupil: www.damnsmalllinux.org11:44
stealwait wait11:44
leteddoes anyone know where there's a list of supported/unsupported firewire drives?11:44
Rawplayerpupil: i downloaded the source from kernel.org11:45
pupilRawplayer, so you have ot make sure the gcc you are using is 3.411:45
naliothsteal: please dont paste11:45
stealcvs don't work on my linuxbox11:45
qt2FliesLikeADesk: heh, and ubotu just told me to add the exact same line for backports that i alraedy have ;)11:45
steali can't understand11:45
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dandelLethal, now it's goin without a segmentation problem lol.. but i got it to set to download only.11:45
Pr0ph3they guyz11:45
starscallingtell starscalling about codecs11:45
starscalling!tell starscalling about codecs11:46
Pr0ph3tubuntu is good for servers ?11:46
FliesLikeADeskyeah qt2  i realized that too, but realize that it says hoary in that line :P11:46
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FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t, yes, but people who use ubuntu on servers generall end up using debian11:46
FliesLikeADeskgenerally*11:46
FliesLikeADeski started out with ubuntu on my servers though11:46
kevogodWhat advantage does Banshee have over Rhythmbox, if any?11:46
Pr0ph3tFliesLikeABrick ok, understood11:46
Pr0ph3tI want to try ubuntu, because its have last packages11:47
qt2FliesLikeADesk: so it does, so it does...11:47
Pr0ph3tI am afraid of etch11:47
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FliesLikeADeskdamn all you breezy people, 2.5 KBps from apt right now11:48
Pr0ph3t5.10 is amd64 ?11:48
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FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  there is an amd64 version11:49
naliothPr0ph3t: yes11:49
FliesLikeADeskthere was one for hoary too11:49
Pr0ph3thumm11:49
Pr0ph3twill try to find here11:49
pupilnalioth, I started out with DSL .8,. they have come a long way,.11:49
FliesLikeADeski'd reccommend the torrents for downloading, not the static mirrors11:49
starscallingnoooooooooooo!!! msttcorefonts is terminally broken.. it wont work because the links for the truetype fonts are gone.... i have downloaded them manually... how can i get my system to be able to use/access em? or is it possible to redirect that package to a folder somehow?11:49
FliesLikeADeskthe mirrors are way overloaded11:49
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naliothpupil: yes they have11:49
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  the torrents are very fast right now versus the overloaded static mirrors11:49
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naliothstarscalling: any TTF font you desire can be used if placed in ~/.fonts    <dir may need to be created>11:50
FliesLikeADeskstarscalling, did you just upgrade from hoary to breezy?11:50
pupilnalioth, I have the DSL cd,. can I upgrade from .8 to 1.5 wth apt-get?11:50
ProN00bawmigood, why can't ubuntu people do something about java11:50
FliesLikeADesk!tell ProN00b about java11:50
ProN00bwhere can i get java from ?11:50
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Pr0ph3tFliesLikeABrick I have a good conection11:50
starscallingFliesLikeADesk:: i used the install iso and did fully new install11:50
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  it is the mirrors that are slow Pr0ph3t  since so many people are downloading11:51
Pr0ph3thumm11:51
naliothpupil: that should be possible, if theres not too big a difference in them11:51
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  i am on 10mbit down and i was getting horrid speeds11:51
naliothpupil: use apt-cdrom11:51
topyliProN00b: only sun can really do anything about java11:51
ui!tell ProN00b about javadeb11:51
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  torrents are going at hundreds of KB/s right now11:51
Pr0ph3tFliesLikeABrick where are you from ?11:51
FliesLikeADeskProN00b,  look at the PM from ubotu11:51
fforwProN00b: if you don't care about your java implementation being free download one from http://java.sun.com/11:51
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naliothFliesLikeADesk: preferable to use the !javadeb trigger11:51
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  troy,NY, USA11:51
FliesLikeADeskthanks nalioth11:51
starscallingnalioth:: i made /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype directory and put them in there manually.. but that didnt seem to help11:51
Pr0ph3tFliesLikeABrick how much you pay just for the conection ?11:52
naliothstarscalling: try your own personal .fonts dir11:52
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  $45/month11:52
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pupilnalioth, are you familar with feather linux?11:52
Zealot87hello11:52
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starscallingthanx nalioth ill try that11:52
ProN00bj2re1.5 over apt-get plx !11:52
naliothpupil: i know the name11:52
starscallingshould i have chown +x or something on them while i was at it?11:52
Pr0ph3tFliesLikeABrick thanks11:52
FliesLikeADeskstarscalling,  you mean chmod?11:52
pupilI forgot my DSL cd at work,. reason I don't download the new DSL,. is because I ran out of cd's11:52
pupillol11:52
naliothProN00b: it is not availabe except doing it yourself or following the links in ubotu11:52
starscallingchown i think but so that any user can open them11:53
Zealot87my updater keeps telling me something is already using my password and wont let me run the updater11:53
Pr0ph3tI got just 50k on mirror, will try torrent11:53
FliesLikeADeskPr0ph3t,  i got 400+ on torrent11:53
Zealot87i got 70011:53
Zealot87on torrent11:53
ProN00bthere was a cute repository for hoary, nothing for breezy *sob*11:53
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FliesLikeADeskyeah i gott almost 700 on the torrent for i38611:53
FliesLikeADeskbut now i'm doing amd64 for my roomate11:53
Zealot87yeah11:53
skullzBOFHbye11:53
FliesLikeADesknot quite as fast11:53
thewayofzenim still getting problems with the ubotu java runtimes11:54
FliesLikeADesk!javadeb11:54
ubotujavadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)11:54
Zealot87does anyone know why my a package management application is already running after restart, it wont let me run Updater!!!11:54
cevizogluthewayofzen, you're doing what with ubotu?11:54
thewayofzenwhen i run azureus gtk from sourceforge with the 1.5 jre on ubotu i have issues with headers still being 1.411:54
thewayofzencevizoglu,  i followed ubotu to the java runtimes.. installed on breezy might be the problem i dont know11:54
starscallingnalioth:: that would be ~/.local/share/fonts? or ~/.fonts so i can make the directory please11:54
cevizogluthewayofzen, i c11:54
thewayofzencevizoglu, all i know is when i use azureus on Oink.me.uk  it tells me my client isnt welcome11:55
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thewayofzenand the admins say azureus is indeed supported11:55
thewayofzenbut that my headers are still 1.411:55
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starscallingthewayofzen:: try installing bittornado11:55
Dekkardyou having trouble running azureus?11:55
starscallingrun that on the torrent and see if that will work11:55
Zealot87my computer keeps saying that the updater cant get an "exclusive lock" why is that?!!?!?!11:55
thewayofzenstarscalling,  gnome torrent works fine11:55
letedqquit11:55
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JDigital_I find servers that ban me for my client11:55
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thewayofzenstarscalling, bittornado is the UGLY11:55
starscallingthen they have had too many problems with the azureus leech plugin i bet11:55
thewayofzenStarKruzr,  the admins told me its my java headers11:56
thewayofzenstarscalling,  ^11:56
starscallingthewayofzen:: in commandline its better: launchmanycurses /directorygoeshere11:56
naliothstarscalling: /home/starscalling/.fonts11:56
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dandeldoes anyone know how to fix the ubuntu issue with doom3, it's a segmentation fault due to vertex array being in virtual memory :|11:56
JDigital_the admins told me it was my python11:56
starscallingthanx nalioth11:56
ProN00bghay, .deb per torrent !!!11:56
fforwthewayofzen: maybe it's just the usual issue that azureus with all it's different java versions ruins client statistics11:56
JDigital_Zealot87: quit all other open copies of synaptic or apt-get11:56
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pupilwhich distro has the best support for older hardware?11:57
FliesLikeADeskpupil,  any11:57
pgashi11:57
FliesLikeADeskpupil,  perhaps hoary may be a better choice currently11:57
pupilFliesLikeABrick, cause its the same kernel right?11:57
Zealot87JDigital_, there are no others11:57
JDigital_odd11:57
thewayofzenfforw, all i know is when java and azureus were in the repos11:57
FliesLikeADeskpupil,  hoary will install an older kernel at install time if you want an older kernel11:57
thewayofzenfforw, it works PERFECTLY11:57
ProN00bbreezy feels beta11:57
Zealot87i restarted and still wont work11:57
thewayofzenbut now its broken *shrug*11:58
JDigital_Zealot: Did it crash halfway through it something11:58
FliesLikeADeskthewayofzen, which java package do i download at that link from ubotu?11:58
cjhcjhcjhI have fast net...how can I help with the torrents?11:58
pgasjust upgraded to breezy, but it fails to recognize png images...does this sound familiar?11:58
pupilFliesLikeABrick, no,. I just want a distro that will install on my P133,. I know I should use DSL,. but wanted to try a server install from some other distro.11:58
Zealot87the problem started when i decided to try and use EasyUbuntu to install apps, and it was jaming on peer to peer, or it wasnt moving any farther, so i force quit that and now the update manager isnt working, so i restarted the computer and still wotn work11:58
FliesLikeADeskcjhcjhcjh,  open a torrent download and just let it run11:58
naliothcjhcjhcjh: seed one or more11:58
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fforwthewayofzen: it works. it's just that many torrent site admins don't like it11:58
Zealot87not install apps, to install drivers and sch11:58
naliothpgas: make sure you have libpng installed11:59
cjhcjhcjhok some1 pls paste the .torrent?11:59
FliesLikeADeskpupil,  perhaps a debian 3.1 install would be best for you if you're looking for the debian/ubuntu flavor11:59
qt2hm, i hear you can submit feature request for dapper via launchpad bug requests?11:59
FliesLikeADeskcjhcjhcjh,  it is on the ubuntu download page11:59
thewayofzenfforw,  ill just suffer through gnome torrent i guess.. :(11:59
cjhcjhcjhk11:59
naliothcjhcjhcjh: www.ubuntulinux.org/download11:59
thewayofzenazureus was the only one i knew how to upload with.11:59
pupilFliesLikeABrick, hmm,. as long as its not complicated,. lol11:59
FliesLikeADeskpupil,  it isnt11:59
reterhow do you install a file that is on your desktop?11:59
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starscallingnalioth:: i take it i might need to log out and back in for that too work then? [thanx for all the help btw] 11:59
ProN00bwhats gnometorrent the interface for ?11:59
fforwreter: what kind of file is it?12:00

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