[12:00] <dmk> DarthFrog, hehe - there is always a down side ;-)
[12:00] <BlueMat> Where can I get firestarter for breezy, is there a way if enabling extra repos, or do they exist?
[12:00] <virgule> I have a dilemna: kdm or gdm? --please share your thoughs
[12:00] <[216] Shadey> gdm
[12:00] <sorush20> hi
[12:00] <jeff303> feugan3333: well it was weird, not really locked up, like the snow was still blowing in the background
[12:00] <[216] Shadey> 4 life
[12:00] <virgule> gdm:1 kdm:0
[12:00] <frank23> jeff303: check the transgaming wiki. I think there might be issues with networking on battle.net
[12:00] <jsubl2> virgule: if you plan on using gnome -- gdm.. if you plan to use kde kmd
[12:00] <jeff303> feugan3333: and games list was updating, but the buttons were greyed out and it never did anything
[12:00] <eduardo> Crube: the latest one. Fartsy Badger or whatever
[12:01] <jeff303> frank23: thanks
[12:01] <DarthFrog> virgule: I'd suggest gdm for Ubuntu, kdm for Kubuntu. They're both good.
[12:01] <[216] Shadey> Lol
[12:01] <rjordan> anyone else having probs with steam & CS?
[12:01] <virgule> I use both.. I keep switching as my mood change
[12:01] <othernoob> which keyboard layout could be used for a generic 105 keys+15multimedia keys keyboard?
[12:01] <[216] Shadey> when is Ubuntu 6.0 Hairy Beaver coming out?
[12:01] <Crube> eduardo breezy badger that is.
[12:01] <eduardo> yea
[12:01] <virgule> alright I choose kdm from now on.
[12:02] <mirak> if I set rm as suid, this means any user can erase everything ?
[12:02] <[216] Shadey> you choose poorly
[12:02] <frank23> rjordan: I heard the latest steam update doesn't work in cedega yet
[12:02] <eduardo> Crube: aptget gnome also bitches. Is there some special package name?
[12:02] <mjr> mirak, yes. Wouldn't recommend it.
[12:02] <Crube> eduardo try apt-get gdm
[12:02] <feugan3333> jeff303: I always blame the emulator :-)
[12:02] <mirak> mjr: lol, no of course. I want to put smbmnt as suid
[12:02] <jeff303> feugan3333: hah yeah, well frank was right
[12:02] <rjordan> frank23, indeed :(
[12:02] <Supermang> wow the official ubuntu repositories are sloooooooooow
[12:02] <eduardo> Crube: thanks, thats doing something
[12:02] <jeff303> feugan3333: there is an issue because the timeout in linux is different or something
[12:02] <Supermang> does BF2 work in cedega?
[12:02] <madsen_> hmm.. I cant install vlc now...
[12:03] <madsen_> worked fine on 5,04
[12:03] <feugan3333> jeff303: fixable?
[12:03] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3045
[12:03] <jeff303> feugan3333: check out the first bullet under Issues here
[12:03] <nderjm_> Anyone had any success with an ATI Rage Mobility P/M graphics card?
[12:03] <frank23> madsen_: vlc works fine here
[12:03] <jeff303> feugan3333:   http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Warcraft_III
[12:03] <BlueMat> guys how do i get firestarter for Breezy, is there extra repos I can enable?
[12:03] <jeff303> feugan3333: apparently the best solution currently is to kill the wine process externally, kind of messy
[12:04] <sorush20> nderjm_: you need to download and install a kernel module just type ATI in the ubuntu wiki
[12:04] <DarthFrog> BlueMat: what repos do you have enabled now?
[12:04] <arise`> evening
[12:04] <Nomikos> what's best, torrenting ISO or upgrading with apt-get?
[12:04] <sorush20> evening arise`
[12:04] <BlueMat> DarthFrog, Stable defualts havent touched them..
[12:04] <arise`> does anyone know if netgear pci wlan cards work with 5.10?
[12:04] <arise`> atheros chipsets
[12:04] <nderjm_> sorush20: I have tried the fglrx driver if thats what you are rerering to
[12:05] <DarthFrog> BlueMat: Try universe and multiverse.
[12:05] <frank23> Nomikos: I say use apt-get
[12:05] <Nomikos> frank23: k thanks
[12:05] <sorush20> nderjm_:  are you getting anyerrors
[12:05] <frank23> arise`: I am using  netgear WG311T wight now
[12:05] <BlueMat> DarthFrog, Can you be a bit more precise, is there a wiki page on enabling extras?
[12:06] <nderjm_> sorush: when I do a modprobe fglrx I get a device not found error
[12:06] <[216] Shadey> i <3 wiki
[12:06] <DarthFrog> BlueMat: Use Synaptic.  It's one of the menu options.
[12:06] <nderjm_> sorush: I dont think the driver supports my card
[12:06] <sorush20> that is what I'm getting too but are sure that the driver is supporting your hardware have a look again in synaptic.. it dosen't support all..
[12:06] <frank23> arise`: watch out for the hardware revision. only one of them is atheros, and I forget which one
[12:07] <feugan3333> jeff303: I don't really understand the problem, but it's cool to see games working (even if a little buggy at the moment)
[12:07] <DarthFrog> BlueMat: Settings/Repositories in Synaptic.
[12:08] <StarKruzr> what the hell.
[12:08] <StarKruzr> what's with all the sons?
[12:08] <feugan3333> bye my sons
[12:08] <eduardo> Crube: after i apt-get install gdm, do i need to do anything more or it will start automatically?
[12:08] <StarKruzr> I can't wait to get home and get my Breezy ISO burned for this laptop.
[12:08] <nderjm_> sorush: my card is a Rage Mobility P/M
[12:08] <arise`> frank23: i think i have the same one
[12:09] <jeff303> feugan3333: yeah it's actually kind of a minor case, namely joining custom games where the host guy has the port blocked
[12:09] <nderjm_> sorush: It worked fine with Hoary :(
[12:09] <jeff303> feugan3333: and on Windows, it will basically timeout sooner
[12:09] <jeff303> feugan3333: but who knows, maybe they will fix it, WC3 is one of the most popular titles
[12:09] <Crube> eduardo if you're missing gdm it's possible you're missing alot of other important programs too.
[12:09] <arise`> frank23: it's the wg311 without T
[12:09] <StarKruzr> Does anyone know if there is an official hardware support list somewhere?
[12:09] <madsen_> damm linux and ATI graphics
[12:09] <LuVUnTu> just finished dload 5.10 got it on my cdrom and there is a window Ubuntu CD detected. should i just start the package manager or should i do a clean install??
[12:09] <BlueMat> DarthFrog, Tick all for updates, security & breezy?
[12:09] <Supermang> anyone able to play BF2 in cedega?
[12:09] <eduardo> Crube: this happened twice already! Maye ubuntu just sucks? :)
[12:10] <jeff303> Supermang: check transgaming wiki
[12:10] <arise`> frank23: WPA works ok?
[12:10] <frank23> arise`: did you have any problems with it? I didn't except screwer kde configurations tools. but hardware worked fine from the start
[12:10] <Zukero> hi again
[12:10] <nderjm_> sorush:  Also, the GUI starts under Breezy.  But there is this bug where the screen wraps over so my menu ends up at the bottom physically, but is logically at the top
[12:10] <LuVUnTu> eduardo:  Ubuntu is great
[12:10] <frank23> arise`: I never tried WPA. WEP works.
[12:10] <StarKruzr> difference between here and #debian: In #debian you'd get kickbanned for saying that, here we all just sigh and ignore him.
[12:10] <Supermang> arise`, WPA works with wpasupplicant
[12:10] <arise`> frank23: didn't dload it yet, i wanted to know before i waste 2 hours :)
[12:10] <eduardo> LuVUnTu - so I heard, but it seems that my install is some sort of an abortion
[12:11] <Supermang> arise`, wish ubuntu had WPA in its network config GUI like suse has now
[12:11] <BlueMat> DarthFrog, Tick all for updates, security & breezy?
[12:11] <LuVUnTu> i am really tempted to just click the package manager
[12:11] <arise`> WEP is crap, u might as well use just MAC filtering ;)
[12:11] <Crube> eduardo there's something really wrong with your installation. Where did you get the install file ?
[12:11] <pcs_> hi, everyone
[12:11] <[216] Shadey> WEP is better then nothing
[12:11] <virgule> hi
[12:11] <Bad_Magic> not by much
[12:11] <eduardo> Crube: the torrents linked from tge ubuntu page
[12:11] <Supermang> hehe i like WPA cuz i can actually remember my damn pass phrase
[12:11] <Ephe-Linux> hey guys
[12:11] <arise`> Supermang: suse doesnt install WPA by default, u need to add it when installing
[12:11] <Ephe-Linux> just did an install with the new ubuntu on my laptop
[12:12] <Ephe-Linux> dual-boots perfectly
[12:12] <Crube> eduardo what's the size of the iso image
[12:12] <grigora> does anyone know if it's possible to play Windows Media Player videos on Linux? thanks
[12:12] <Ephe-Linux> and it my wireless is working nicely as well good job
[12:12] <benkong2> is ubuntu amd64 kernel 2.6.12-6-amd64-k8 on schedule? I already upgraded to breezy but have not had any updates in awhile? Also inkscape and mozilla-thunderbird give an error kept back
[12:12] <StarKruzr> ooooooo speaking of wireless security
[12:12] <izzy_> hi....  can somone tell me how to switch which gcc I'm using?
[12:12] <LuVUnTu> then again i dont wanna mess my setup if something goes wrong
[12:12] <pcs_> sorry my english, from spain
[12:12] <eduardo> Crube, 564 mb
[12:12] <lucaas> grigora, it is, search for w32codecs
[12:12] <tristanmike> grigora, only up to wmv9 with the w32codecs, if I'm correct
[12:12] <guru54> does ubuntu have any package cds? i use dailup and it be easier to download 2-3 package cds at a friends house.
[12:12] <LuVUnTu> mebbe i clean install is better
[12:12] <Ephe-Linux> grigora: if ubuntu is based off debian like i think it is, apt-get install w32codecs should work
[12:12] <arise`> StarKruzr: best way to stay secure is to stay offline. period
[12:13] <arise`> :D
[12:13] <Sonderblade> i'd like to install ubuntu on my second partition of my disk without reformatting it, is that possible?
[12:13] <[216] Shadey> Ubuntu is going to take over the world!!
[12:13] <madsen_> my god mirror sites are slow
[12:13] <Supermang> izzy_, CC=gcc-3.4; export CC    for example
[12:13] <StarKruzr> let's suppose you wanted to do this: some random person associates with your SSID.  when they try to load a web page, they get redirected to a TOS page saying "click Agree to agree that anything you do using my connection is your responsibility, not mine," and then they get to leave the TOS page
[12:13] <dreameen> do ihave to burn the iso file into cd in order to upgrade to breezy with synaptic??
[12:13] <Ephe-Linux> does ubuntu 5.10 have msttcorefonts installed by default?
[12:13] <dreameen> .
[12:13] <Crube> eduardo mine's 617mb, so there's something wrong with that file
[12:13] <StarKruzr> how would you do that?
[12:13] <Sonderblade> Ephe-Linux: no, they are not free
[12:13] <feugan3333> Sonderblade: yes but a boot loader will have to be installed
[12:13] <LuVUnTu> maddler:  a lot of ppl are prolly dloading the latest stable release ... i stayed up all night for it
[12:14] <Sonderblade> feugan3333: thought so, thanks
[12:14] <izzy_> supermang: thanks
[12:14] <LuVUnTu> to start the package manager or to boot clean????
[12:14] <dmk> well guys was just passing through, good night
[12:14] <LuVUnTu> what did the rest of u do??
[12:14] <grigora> lucaas: tristanmike: Ephe-Linux: thank y'all, however I get an error when I try to install w32codecs saying it's been obsoleted, any ideas?
[12:14] <pcs_> sorry, i have a problem with breezy, how can I 'full' uninstall the prism54 driver, because with modprobe -r only uninstall for this session y have to do it every time because conflicts with ndiswrapper...
[12:14] <BlueMat> Is it ok to enable all repos in synaptic, universe, multiverse etc for update, security and breezy?
[12:14] <Ephe-Linux> oh... i had no idea they weren't free
[12:15] <Eppu> StarKruzr: Usually one creates a system with combination of iptables, web application and some custom application to control the firewall redirects etc.
[12:15] <jrattner1> why are the torrents running so slow, im only get 2.95 KB
[12:15] <arise`> Supermang: do u need to compile wpa_supplicant into ndiswrapper?
[12:15] <LuVUnTu> oh well ... here goes
[12:15] <arise`> Supermang: or is it available as a package somewhere?
[12:15] <Eppu> StarKruzr: I think there are several ready made packages for that kind of thing nowadays. I made a custom one myself
[12:15] <stimpie> for upgrading to 5.10 I use the server us.archive.ubuntu.com (which is slow) is there a european mirror?
[12:15] <StarKruzr> Eppu: I thought there might be.
[12:15] <lucaas> grigora, i dont think they are in the reps, try searching the forums
[12:15] <eduardo> Crube: I installed breezy-install-i386.iso from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[12:15] <StarKruzr> Eppu: Is yours OSS?
[12:15] <jrattner1> I thought torrents run fast because losts of people are using it??
[12:16] <izzy_> that is tempory, correct?
[12:16] <izzy_> export CC?
[12:16] <Supermang> arise`, no clue i use ipw for my driver
[12:16] <Ephe-Linux> Where's the grub.conf located? I wanna edit it.
[12:16] <esac> is it possible to resize an ext3 partition ?
[12:16] <tristanmike> grigora, what are you running and on what? ie Hoary on pc.
[12:16] <Supermang> izzy_, yup until you logout or whatever it is
[12:16] <Shadowpillar> AGH
[12:16] <Eppu> StarKruzr: Don't know really. I made it for my school actually, as contract work. Don't know the legal status of the project.
[12:16] <StarKruzr> izzy: FYI, export CC to change C compiler versions for make has never worked for me
[12:16] <Shadowpillar> damnit
[12:16] <hyphenated> alrighty then.. there's a third party app (skype) that has some unmet dependencies related to libqt version blahblah. I forced it to install (and it runs fine), but now apt-get wants to remove it
[12:16] <StarKruzr> Eppu: OK.
[12:16] <lucaas> Ephe-Linux, /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:16] <Shadowpillar> why?
[12:16] <Crube> eduardo your file is smaller than it should be, so something went wrong during the download
[12:16] <arise`> Supermang: so whats the default driver in 5.10?
[12:17] <Supermang> arise`, for wpasupplicant?
[12:17] <LuVUnTu> hehehe there was nothing to update on the package manager so i guess i would have to boot
[12:17] <eduardo> Crube, it's listed as 564 on that page
[12:17] <feugan3333> mstefanus: when you resart mysql are you doing so as root?
[12:17] <frank23> hyphenated: my solution was to download the statically linked version from the skype website. It takes a minute to load but it works fine
[12:17] <stimpie> hyphenated, ofcourse skype is poprietary :-)
[12:17] <LuVUnTu> good ppl of ubuntu peace
[12:17] <Supermang> arise`, you have to specify your driver in the command line
[12:17] <sadya_wiyaku> can i use debian binary .deb archieve to install in ubuntu ?
[12:17] <hyphenated> stimpie: yes, there's that too.
[12:17] <Ephe-Linux> lucaas: thanks
[12:18] <hyphenated> frank23: cheeers. I might try that
[12:18] <pcs_> any idea about modprove?
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> Anyone here use ubuntuppc?
[12:18] <StarKruzr> shalom
[12:18] <Crube> eduardo I see. You should perhaps try downloading the file again. If you're missing gdm there's something wrong. Try downloading the 617mb file. Works fine with me.
[12:18] <[216] Shadey> does Ubuntu 5.10 have mp3 support by default?
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> Anyone here use ubuntu PPC?
[12:18] <arise`> thanks all
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> [216] Shadey: you have to get the universe rep
[12:18] <virgule> Shadowpillar: I do
[12:18] <dreameen> how do i upgrade from a mounted ISO?
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> [216] Shadey: then get libmad
[12:18] <StarKruzr> pcs: What are you asking?
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> virgule: on a oldworld mac?
[12:19] <virgule> yes: 300Mz minitower
[12:19] <Shadowpillar> virgule: I downloaded the debian installer ramdisk for bootx
[12:19] <pcs_> how to quit the prism54 drver from modprobe ?
[12:19] <Crube> dreameen add it to your sources.list
[12:19] <StarKruzr> oh hey guys
[12:19] <Eppu> StarKruzr: Check out www.cc.puv.fi/~teu/tino/ I think I used that as a concept test
[12:19] <dreameen> Crube, yup...but how?
[12:19] <dreameen> its in /mnt/ubuntu
[12:19] <StarKruzr> I have the opportunity to buy a G3/500 256MB RAM 20GB HDD white iMac from school for $60.  should I?
[12:20] <virgule> You can use those found in /install dir or Ubuntu CDROM
[12:20] <flora> can i apt-get thunderbird?
[12:20] <Shadowpillar> virgule: I'm at the part where it wants powermac/images-1.44/rescue.bin
[12:20] <DavidLeeRoth> starkruzer, duh!
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> StarKruzr : i would
[12:20] <flora> couldn't find it when i searched the apt cache
[12:20] <[216] Shadey> can anyone send me a link that explains the whole repositories thing, perhaps a wiki? I'm so confused with this Universe, Multiverse, Backport thing.
[12:20] <pcs_> i want to uninstall prism54 module because conflicts with ndiswrapper---
[12:20] <Shadowpillar> virgule: and I'm stuck :/
[12:20] <miksu> 81 % upgrade :)
[12:20] <MrMaDSeN> flora, mozilla-thunderbird
[12:20] <StarKruzr> so it's a good deal, then
[12:20] <StarKruzr> ok
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> i got like 3 silly pcs around for fun
[12:20] <_jason> !tell [216] Shadey about repos
[12:20] <eduardo> Crube: I
[12:20] <frank23> !tell [216] Shadey about repositories
[12:20] <auk> i'm at 50%!!
[12:20] <flora> MrMaDSeN, thanks
[12:20] <[216] Shadey> thanks!
[12:20] <eduardo> Crube: I will try the larger file if this GDM install doesnt do things too well
[12:20] <BlueMat> Is it ok to enable all repos in synaptic, universe, multiverse etc for update, security and breezy?
[12:21] <eduardo> otherwise I might as well just go from here, right?
[12:21] <flora> :~$ apt-cache search thunderbird
[12:21] <flora> openoffice.org2 - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[12:21] <flora> what's up with that?
[12:21] <StarKruzr> !tell me about repositories
[12:21] <othernoob> mmh, my alt gr key works like the normal alt key, anyone know how i can change that?
[12:21] <dooglus> BlueMat: yes
[12:21] <Supermang> anyone know where Totem defines its codec directory?
[12:21] <virgule> Shadowpillar: Just use 'vmlinux' and 'initrd.gz' found in the ubuntu CDROM --you know which one is used for?
[12:21] <LazyAngel> when i try to open synaptic from the menu, i wirte the password. then nothing happens... is that normal since the servers are heavily loaded? or is something wrong?
[12:21] <Supermang> having trouble playing wmv files even with codecs installed at /usr/lib/win32
[12:21] <virgule> its in install I think
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> StarKruzr : /msg uboty repositories is preferred.
[12:21] <pcs_> nobody knows?
[12:21] <Shadowpillar> virgule: oh okay
[12:22] <feugan3333> mstefanus: when you resart mysql are you doing so with the sudo command.
[12:22] <miksu> starkruzr they define the sources for your update or for synaptic install. they are found in etc/apt/sources.list or in the synaptic menu for repositories
[12:22] <flora> mozilla-thunderbird?
[12:22] <Crube> LazyAngel it should start. It'll start fetching the data from the servers after starting.
[12:22] <frank23> LazyAngel: no that is a problem on you computer. try killing any instances of gksudo
[12:22] <mstefanus> feugan3333: I use root account
[12:22] <Shadowpillar> virgule: that's a bit better
[12:23] <feugan3333> mstefanus: and the file /usr/sbin/mysqld exists.
[12:23] <mwright1night> Could someone in the know please arrange for edubuntu 5.10 to be seeded
[12:23] <nderjm_> I'm going out of my mind
[12:23] <flora> Package mozilla-thunderbird is not available,
[12:23] <virgule> The only 'tricky' part is the installer will think there is no bootloader, from there you will have to manually cope vmlinux-2.6.10-powerpc and initrd-2.6.10-powerpc into the MacOS partition for bootx to use
[12:23] <nderjm_> Had anyone encountered a situation where the top part of their screen ends up at the bottom instead??
[12:23] <rkd> In between logging in and having my custom background load, the desktop is brown, which clashes with my chosen green. Is there any way to retheme this?
[12:23] <LazyAngel> frank23: ps -A | grep gksudo give no return :(
[12:23] <mstefanus> feugan3333: yes...
[12:24] <sorush20> could someone help me this problem I have more than one of the same driver.... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3046
[12:24] <flora> !tell me about repositories
[12:24] <eraos> newbie question: i downloaded a iso today and it saved as xxxxx.iso.bin .... how to i burn that on a cd? gnomebaker looks for plain *.iso files
[12:24] <StarKruzr> eraos: did you try just taking the extension off?
[12:24] <miksu> eraos cdrecord youriso.iso dev/cdr01 or your device as listed
[12:25] <eraos> starkruzr: i can simply remove the extension?
[12:25] <miksu> btw, what is the command for listing devices
[12:25] <StarKruzr> eraos: you can take it off and put it back on if it doesn't work.
[12:25] <StarKruzr> I'd give it a try.
[12:25] <StarKruzr> it might be an artifact of your browser.
[12:25] <[216] Shadey> do you guys love Breezy Badger as much as I do?
[12:25] <eraos> starkruzr: how do i remove it? just rename the file/
[12:25] <StarKruzr> eraos: bingo :)
[12:26] <eraos> alright, thanks, i'll give it a go
[12:26] <uboodoo> hi all
[12:26] <dreameen> what URI:/ should i put into synaptic repo manager for my mounted ISO?
[12:26] <uboodoo> I just installed breeze couple hours ago
[12:26] <jrattner1> is anyone getting over 2.00 KBs from any i386 torrent
[12:26] <feugan3333> What error do you get if you "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld"
[12:26] <flora> what is the best gnome/ubuntu desktop/icon theme?
[12:26] <StarKruzr> hey miksu.  what do you know about /dev?  I seem to recall at least one distro of Linux that only showed what devices were actually installed in the system rather than enumerating every possible device that could be installed.  does Ubuntu do that?  (I'm tempted to say no)
[12:26] <feugan3333> flora: that a silly question
[12:27] <synd> Any NFS experts in here?
[12:27] <flora> feugan3333, don't be such a snob
[12:27] <miksu> StarKruzr, sorry still learning. todays catch: how to burn in terminal with my cd burner
[12:27] <StarKruzr> feugan: not necessarily.
[12:27] <feugan3333> flora: what's the best color
[12:27] <flora> yes i know its subjective, that's the point, i'm looking for opinions
[12:27] <flora> sheesh i forgot how touch geeks can be ;)
[12:27] <StarKruzr> feugan3333, some themes may be more functional than others.
[12:27] <uboodoo> I like it .. but all of a sudden I started hearing a sound in my laptop and I see this in my log Oct 13 18:27:09 localhost kernel: [4314792.895000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[12:27] <flora> touchy*
[12:28] <StarKruzr> some themes move widgets around in such a way as to be more or less useful.
[12:28] <feugan3333> flora: I'm not a geek yet :-)
[12:28] <flora> what is YOUR favorite theme?
[12:28] <StarKruzr> her question wasn't silly.
[12:28] <stimpie> jrattner1, my i386 torrent is going at 2.8Mb/s
[12:28] <flora> i just don't want Human anymore but the builtins are all boring and i don't want to spend hours digging through options online.
[12:28] <davro> go stimpie, that could tke some time.
[12:29] <StarKruzr> flora: I actually don't know where there is a good repository of GNOME themes.
[12:29] <MrMaDSeN> anyone have the ATI gfx wiki url again ..plz...
[12:29] <StarKruzr> can you point me to one?
[12:29] <flora> gnome-look.org?
[12:29] <synd> Any NFS experts in here?
[12:29] <Eppu> StarKruzr: Do you mean udev? Ubuntu uses that. Gentoo uses devfs, or at least used.
[12:29] <mirak> why can't we really mount a samba share with gnome like it's feasible avec smbmount ?
[12:29] <flora> avec?
[12:30] <flora> frenchie!!!
[12:30] <stpere> http://art.gnome.org/
[12:30] <virgule> its french for 'with'
[12:30] <stimpie> the weird thing is that my upload doesnt get filled with the torrent
[12:30] <virgule> Je parles bien le francais :)
[12:30] <StarKruzr> Eppu: yes.
[12:30] <mirak> quoi ?
[12:30] <MrMaDSeN> virgule, no s :)
[12:30] <flora> je ne parles pas francais
[12:30] <mirak> mais personne veux repondre a ma question ? :D
[12:30] <StarKruzr> what are the differences between udev and devfs?
[12:30] <miksu> so to compile , just run make in dir ?
[12:31] <MrMaDSeN> mirak, naturellement
[12:31] <StarKruzr> je suis un monkey!
[12:31] <mirak> udev is a daemon
[12:31] <stpere> StarKruzr, udev is in userspace, devfs is in kernel space
[12:31] <mirak> I am a singe
[12:31] <StarKruzr> ah.
[12:31] <Eppu> StarKruzr: Well devfs is deprectated by the kernel guys, for one thing. udev is the "correct" way to manage that directory nowadays
[12:31] <frank23> that's #ubuntu-fr, not #ubuntu-french
[12:31] <flora> !tell me about playing mp3s
[12:31] <StarKruzr> Interesting.
[12:31] <Eppu> deprecated, I mean
[12:31] <virgule> RIAA has you
[12:31] <flora> idiot bot
[12:31] <mirak> why can't we really mount a samba share with gnome like it's feasible avec smbmount ?
[12:32] <mirak> ok don't know why I said "avec" lol, I must be tired
[12:32] <mirak> why can't we really mount a samba share with gnome like it's feasible with smbmount ?
[12:32] <hone> hello
[12:32] <mirak> that's better like that
[12:32] <virgule> c'est la fleche en haut
[12:32] <hone> I can't figure out how to get my bluetooth mouse to work w/ breezy "out of the box"
[12:32] <Eppu> StarKruzr: udev is a deamon, devfs is a filesystem. That is probably the most significant difference
[12:32] <StarKruzr> devfs is its own filesystem?  o_O
[12:33] <Eppu> StarKruzr: man udev provides information about the udev
[12:33] <rekrutacja> do you know how to change ubuntu logo in breezy back to gnome foot?
[12:33] <miksu> wow cool finally found a nice open source FPS for linux ! =) CUBE
[12:33] <StarKruzr> Eppu: my experience with man pages is that they are usually crap when it comes to understanding implementation details
[12:34] <Eppu> StarKruzr: Well yes, they are meant as a reference really
[12:34] <StarKruzr> mirak: are you referring to the thing where it complains about smbmnt being needed to be installed uid root or something?
[12:34] <TylerDurden> wow can someon plz plz plz help me get 3d to work? my ati says mesa works
[12:34] <TylerDurden> and i need 3d
[12:34] <uboodoo> hey guys anyone knows where I should look about this sound coming off of my hp nc6220 laptop
[12:34] <akuma_> anyone know where I might look for info on getting my sound working in breezy?
[12:34] <uboodoo> i am using breeze
[12:35] <Nomikos> is there a page somewhere that explains how to upgrade to breezy via apt-get?
[12:35] <Nomikos> can't find any :-(
[12:35] <mirak> StarKruzr: I don't complain, about that, tough I think it would be fine if it was suid root as default setting
[12:35] <hone> Nomikos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[12:35] <Eppu> StarKruzr: actually, udev has some file system aspects to it as well. en.wikipedia.org/udev provides some information
[12:35] <StarKruzr> mirak: me too.
[12:35] <effie> Hey there,
[12:35] <StarKruzr> Eppu: all hail Wikipedia!
[12:35] <mirak> StarKruzr: there could be a group samba or something like that
[12:35] <Eppu> StarKruzr: yes
[12:35] <effie> I am pointing some ppl to doing internet radio,
[12:35] <effie> streaming mp3 and the like
[12:35] <davro> StarKruzr: udev allows abusers users to have a dynamic /dev directory
[12:35] <effie> on ubuntu trhu telephone
[12:35] <mirak> StarKruzr: what I complain about is that gnome use the vfs instead of a direct mount like smbmount does
[12:35] <raetsel99> well I wonder what  the main topic of conversation has been today :o)
[12:36] <virgule> shoutcast.com
[12:36] <effie> what's the best app in ubuntu?
[12:36] <Nomikos> hone, thanks!
[12:36] <effie> to play I mean
[12:36] <hone> Nomikos: np
[12:36] <effie> asx treams, mms streams
[12:36] <StarKruzr> mirak: I would love to learn how to get Samba to work out of the box.  I have a lot of Windows boxes I need to be able to talk to
[12:36] <TylerDurden> how can i uninstall the ati.run package i installed?
[12:36] <virgule> xmms is my choice
[12:36] <effie> I tought it would be gstreamer - plugins stuff
[12:36] <effie> but not
[12:36] <mirak> StarKruzr: I have found a way
[12:36] <rekrutacja> effie vlc
[12:36] <effie> xmms for asx?
[12:36] <StarKruzr> mirak: Do tell :)
[12:36] <mirak> StarKruzr: I can past you my config file
[12:36] <raetsel99> TylerDurden what did  you use to install it ?
[12:36] <virgule> asx?
[12:36] <effie> rekrutacja, vlc is such a terrible player :)
[12:36] <davro> effie: blender
[12:37] <TylerDurden> raetsel99, i downloaded the .run file from the ati website
[12:37] <effie> pffr
[12:37] <effie> blender
[12:37] <rekrutacja> effie if you know them all why you ask?
[12:37] <mirak> StarKruzr: so basically the trick is to just put security=share as an option instead of security=user
[12:37] <effie> no, I'm not a regular ubunto person
[12:37] <raetsel99> TylerDurden - ah then in that case it could be a bit tricky......
[12:37] <effie> I mean, I'm trying to find what's best for 'them'
[12:37] <StarKruzr> mirak: is THAT all it is?!
[12:37] <effie> not for me
[12:37] <effie> :)
[12:37] <StarKruzr> fake it to act as a Win9X client instead of NT?
[12:37] <mirak> StarKruzr: this way you are not prompted for a password when you just want to browse a remote computer
[12:37] <TylerDurden> raetsel99, because only mesa is active and i dont understand why
[12:37] <effie> I was just looking at totem-xine or totem-gstreamer
[12:38] <mirak> StarKruzr: yes, that's also something that should be put as the default
[12:38] <effie> wich would give them the most possible options?
[12:38] <rekrutacja> do you know how to change ubuntu logo in breezy back to gnome foot?
[12:38] <StarKruzr> mirak: it should be in the GUI
[12:38] <StarKruzr> to change back and forth
[12:38] <StarKruzr> or auto-change
[12:38] <raetsel99> Well tyler I think there is a way to recover Xorg to a base state butnot sure what you need to do....someone here should know
[12:38] <mirak> StarKruzr: then with that, you are still prompted a password when you try to log  to   $AUSER@onthatbox
[12:39] <effie> no, really, some do you have some advice? some user ideas? or is vlc (ATM) the most versatile player?
[12:39] <mirak> StarKruzr: this allow to acces to any home folder matching a user name
[12:39] <sorush20> why isn't my printer being detected in my usb ports is there any way I can detect this
[12:39] <StarKruzr> hmmm
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> effie : mplayer is best
[12:39] <StarKruzr> not necessarily
[12:39] <{GuNNeR}> I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether the AMD64 support in the newest version of ubuntu has improved any?
[12:39] <[216] Shadey> i love the breezy badger, i'm not even going to lie
[12:39] <mirak> StarKruzr: that's fine, and windows don't provide that cool thing
[12:39] <StarKruzr> if the default behavior is security=share that won't happen
[12:39] <effie> lsuactiafner, it's not very user-friendly if you're a newbie
[12:39] <StarKruzr> that's true
[12:39] <_jason> sorush20:  was the printer on and connected when you booted the computer?
[12:40] <stimpie> SOMNIVM, see if it shows up in lspci
[12:40] <raetsel99> Me too shadey, I'm well impressed with the powerPC version
[12:40] <mirak> StarKruzr: yes this will happens
[12:40] <effie> I use mplayer for 'whatever' but I'm used to reading html sources or other stuff to find the mms:// url and so on
[12:40] <StarKruzr> mirak: why?
[12:40] <effie> ( me even uses edl editing _
[12:40] <tombs> hi all
[12:40] <philc> where are the cursor icons located? I need to use one in an image
[12:40] <_jason> effie what do you use to play mms:// ?
[12:40] <stimpie> sorush20, and check /var/log/messages to see it a printer is reported in there
[12:41] <mirak> StarKruzr: I wasted time on this samb options recently, so I now know how it works
[12:41] <raetsel99> hi tombs
[12:41] <effie> _jason, mplayer
[12:41] <StarKruzr> mirak: I delved really deeply into Samba back in the beginning days of TNG :)
[12:41] <StarKruzr> like 5 years ago
[12:41] <effie> *no idea wether it works with any packaged version since I compile my own
[12:41] <_jason> effie:  k I was hoping there was another option because some of my streams don't work
[12:41] <StarKruzr> so I have no clue about new developments
[12:41] <lampshade> TNG?  The next generation?
[12:41] <mirak> StarKruzr: because the security=user option asks you a password when you want to browse a remote computer. So you can't even list the shares if you are not logged
[12:41] <StarKruzr> yup
[12:42] <effie> _jason, most mms I encountered work. but mms doesn't say much about the codec, it's just the way it's delivered
[12:42] <hone> anyonje here have experience w/ bluetooth?
[12:42] <StarKruzr> hone: some
[12:42] <effie> you did try vlc?
[12:42] <quam> using hoary at the moment, better to upgrade via synaptic or burn/install from cd?
[12:42] <mirak> StarKruzr: however when it's set on share you still can hide folder or disallow browsing and listing
[12:42] <hyphenated> hone: only with kdebluetooth
[12:42] <effie> tho it's a hard ui to use
[12:42] <_jason> effie:  can you do me a favor and see if it will play: mms://rdp.oninet.pt/antena1  I ahve been trying everything.  If I have to compile mplayer I'll gladly do it.
[12:42] <mirak> StarKruzr: in fact the home thing is a special share. A kind of virtual share
[12:42] <_jason> effie:  it's a portuguese news station btw
[12:42] <StarKruzr> mirak: ok.  so you set security=share by default and then if necessary you could change it to user through the gui
[12:42] <SOMNIVM> stimpie, lspci? what for?
[12:43] <saggytits> hey guys i've been trying to install a distro for a while now on my new lappy "compaq r4000" .. well every distro i try basically says it cant access the cdrom when i try to install it
[12:43] <hone> you know that "bluetooth out of the box for input devices for breezy"?
[12:43] <hone> how do I get it to work...I'm trying to get my laptop to work with my mx900 w/o resorting to cli
[12:43] <mirak> StarKruzr: you can't change this option with the gui unfortunely
[12:43] <StarKruzr> mirak: that's what I'm suggesting :)
[12:43] <effie> ok, that was fun, I tried the "xine-totem plugin" and x crashed :)
[12:43] <stimpie> SOMNIVM, sorry thats wrong indeed
[12:44] <mirak> StarKruzr: yes it would be nice
[12:44] <StarKruzr> I would get on that, but I don't speak GTK unfortunately
[12:44] <SOMNIVM> stimpie, no prob :)
[12:44] <SupIAmMike> Can't locate LWP/Simple.pm in @INC
[12:44] <seife> help
[12:44] <hone> anyone?
[12:44] <hone> seife: what's wrong?
[12:44] <effie> hone, your question?
[12:44] <seife> who nows how do i burn a bootable disk in windows?
[12:45] <seife> bootable cd*
[12:45] <SupIAmMike> sudo /usr/share/vpnc/pcf2vpnc purdue_wireless.pcf
[12:45] <hyphenated> hone: which features are you trying to enable?
[12:45] <effie> seife, use that program called nero
[12:45] <{GuNNeR}> does anyone know if amd64 support has improved in 5.10
[12:45] <seife> effiei have it, but it have many options
[12:45] <effie> use 'burn iso'
[12:45] <effie> or burn image
[12:46] <effie> see, the iso you downloaded, is in fact, the raw contents of the cd you want to burn
[12:46] <effie> so you cannot burn it as a file you have to burn it as 'raw' data onto the cd
[12:46] <seife> create data cd?
[12:46] <hone> hyphenated: just trying to get my mx900 to be autodetected..dunno what the out of box bluetooth support is
[12:46] <effie> no, don't use that wizard thing. otherwise google for 'burn image nero'
[12:47] <hyphenated> hone: well, once it's detected, what do you plan to do with it? use it as a modem? copy files to it? make it control your media player?
[12:47] <hone> hyphenated: it's a mouse
[12:47] <pax> any faster upgrade mirrors other than archive.ubuntu.com?
[12:47] <seife> i have to burn an image?
[12:47] <hone> hyphenated: so ideally have it work as a mouse
[12:47] <effie> seife, google, it's the first link ( file->burn image)
[12:47] <hyphenated> hone: oh :-) I thought it was a phone.
[12:47] <lampshade> seife:  If you have nero cancel out the wizard and then go to file then  open then change the file type to images such as .iso and then select it and burn
[12:47] <hone> hyphenated: it's the logitech one..mmm yeah I have a bluetooth phone too..
[12:48] <effie> contemplate the possiblilties, google, seek, and find.
[12:48] <effie> blilitiesl
[12:48] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[12:48] <josh43> ok, question: is there any way at all to rip the 3d hardware config from a livecd? I never have a problem with my 9800pro with live cds, but I cannot for the life of me get it running on an install
[12:48] <jrattner1> is it quicker to download the iso torrent or and iso directly from a mirror?
[12:48] <hone> hyphenated: so do you know how the bluetooth "out of box" support works?
[12:48] <quam> effie: you remind me of one of those RTFM people that are so common on efnet linux help channels :P
[12:48] <effie> ok, what is the 'recommended' play-it-all for ubuntu? I would like to go with 'totem'
[12:49] <effie> quam, no, but this is not a nero burning rom help channel is it?
[12:49] <josh43> effie, Yes, ubuntu supports totem, but I say if you can do it: VLC
[12:49] <quam> i was referring to your response in general :P
[12:49] <shadeofgrey> i JUST replaced my entire ubuntu installatiomn with a fresh install of the stable 5.10 -- the AMD64 version...  and i just finished adding all my upgrade components too...
[12:49] <quam> i didn't read the question you were responding to :p
[12:49] <effie> and besides, we gave him enough pointers to where he should look for
[12:49] <effie> besides, I was the only one to respond anyways
[12:49] <effie> ....er
[12:49] <lui> well hello people!
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> i,m now running AMD64 2.5 gigahertz with 4 gig of ram and a 300gig primary SATA drive
[12:50] <quam> 4 gig of ram, jesus
[12:50] <thundr> lucky.
[12:50] <jrattner1> Someone please point me in the direction of a mirror getting above 2.0 KB's for i386 install iso
[12:50] <josh43> jerk
[12:50] <effie> quam, you are right of course
[12:50] <josh43> jrattner1, Torrent
[12:50] <lui> what about breezy so far?
[12:50] <effie> it's time us linux nerds/gurus/knowitalls start stepping down
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> jratter:  dude, relax...  EVERYBODY is pulling at that speed because EVERYBODY is tryuing to grab that same iso
[12:50] <jrattner1> josh43, the torrent is running rediculously slow
[12:50] <thundr> I'm the idiot who bought rambus memory back in 02.
[12:50] <hyphenated> hone: a quick google search for "ubuntu logitech mx900" brings up a few promising links
[12:50] <jrattner1> shadeofgrey, im sorry im just excited
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> jratter:  you wanna go faster?  use bittorent
[12:50] <thundr> I'm stuck with 256 unless I want to shell out lots of $
[12:51] <josh43> jrattner1, That makes no sense
[12:51] <effie> torrent should be even faster then regular ftp by now
[12:51] <stimpie> jrattner1, the torrent is working fine here
[12:51] <jrattner1> its not though
[12:51] <lui> anyone has installed breezy?
[12:51] <jrattner1> stimpie, what speed are you getting
[12:51] <shadeofgrey> jrattner1:  yeah i was too when i saw they finally released it...  been running RC with all kinds of bugs
[12:51] <quam> i think i was getting about 60k/s or higher from the torrent earlier
[12:51] <thundr> give it time, jrattner1
[12:51] <mcquaid> has anyone compiled a qt app in breezy? i've compiled a few before in hoary but now I'm getting configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3
[12:51] <cpalma> yea and it helps to spread some ubuntu love
[12:51] <stimpie> jrattner1, 2.5Mb/s at the moment
[12:51] <popey> is it normal for glxgears on breezy to not show fps?
[12:52] <jrattner1> stimpie, what torrent are you using
[12:52] <mcquaid> popey, ya i noticed that too
[12:52] <shadeofgrey> okjay guys heres the 25 million dollar quiz question....  are the repositories totally different for the AMD64 version?
[12:52] <seife> lampshade: thanks
[12:52] <josh43> jrattner1, How long has it been since you started the torrent? and have you gotten good speeds from torrent before?
[12:52] <hone> hyphenated: yeah, I mean I can do it w/ hcitool
[12:52] <seife> im burning breezy badger :D
[12:52] <popey> lol glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark apparently
[12:52] <josh43> shadeofgrey, Repositories? No. Binaries, yes
[12:52] <sally_> I am trying to add a cd source in "add applications" but it keeps saying unable to get exclusive lock, this is in breezy, has anyone seen this or know how I can fix it?
[12:52] <seife> im downloading Kubuntu Breezy.
[12:52] <jrattner1> josh43, previously yes, but i cancelled my last 3 in hopes of better speeds
[12:52] <seife> i want to try KDE
[12:52] <stimpie> jrattner1, ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[12:52] <effie> seife, why did you say so....
[12:52] <hone> hyphenated: via command line, I was just under the impression that something changed in breezy b/c one of the toted features is bluetooth support out of the box for input devices
[12:53] <effie> me with nero... bla
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> josh43:  so that means my sources.liust file should contain the regular breezy repositories?
[12:53] <thundr> jrattner1, it should be faster since it's so popular.
[12:53] <josh43> sally_, This means something else is using apt-get.. is aynaptic open?
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> can somebody paste the link to the full list of breezy repositories please?
[12:53] <seife> Dunno, want to see hows KDE
[12:53] <effie> is there any simple option to install other country reps in the gui?
[12:53] <josh43> shadeofgrey, Yes, mine do and I have no issues (well, no REPOSITORY issues ;)
[12:53] <stimpie> shadeofgrey, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[12:53] <jrattner1> thundr, i understand how it works but it would appear to be working the opposite way for me
[12:53] <sally_> josh43: ps fax |grep synaptic shows nothing
[12:54] <jrattner1> we'll see what happens
[12:54] <anthony> When playing webpages embedded WMV files using VLC, there's only audio stream but no video stream, do I have to install certain codec/plug-in/package in order to get the video to work?
[12:54] <bitblit> first time installing ubuntu (5.10). install seems fine, except computer will not boot. assuming grub did not install properly. not sure where to start; is there a grub howto or a more advanced install mode for grub?
[12:54] <josh43> sally_, Not sure then.. if it cant lock it means something else locked it
[12:54] <effie> kde, gnome... windowmaker
[12:54] <john__> jeez
[12:54] <john__> the repos are extremely slow
[12:54] <effie> it ain't pretty, but it's fast
[12:54] <thundr> 25kbps is better than 56k modem speeds.
[12:54] <bitblit> however if i reinstall and make my xp partition active instead, i can boot to windows, but grub never loads..
[12:55] <stimpie> thundr, lol
[12:55] <josh43> john__, Give it until all the glompers chill out ;)
[12:55] <hone> hyphenated: and I didn't get that many promising links :(
[12:55] <miksu> i accidentally removed the upper panel completely...how do i re-add it?
[12:55] <effie> thundr, what country do you live in?
[12:55] <leonel> what app is  nice to see mpgs ?
[12:55] <thundr> effie, USA
[12:55] <john__> glompers?
[12:55] <tapox> How many seeds are on the Breezy torrent?
[12:55] <effie> I tout the hav good speed ther?
[12:55] <bitblit> any idea why my computer wont boot after an install of ubuntu 5.10? no error, nothing. just tries to boot from cd then stops forever with no message.
[12:56] <stimpie> tahorg, 2072
[12:56] <bitblit> (thats after an apparently successful install)
[12:56] <stimpie> tapox, 2072
[12:56] <effie> ...they don't go below 768 in the netherlands anymore.
[12:56] <Razor-X> i'm waiting for the large amount of users on the breezy servers to fan out
[12:56] <josh43> john__, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glomp
[12:56] <Razor-X> that way, even if i'm a few days late, it won't take me two days to dist-upgrade :P
[12:56] <tapox> stimpie: 2072 seeds? Or 2072 users per seed?
[12:56] <effie> is torrent for breezy easy?
[12:56] <john__> josh43, ic ic
[12:56] <effie> maybe I could add my 128 k to the trouble
[12:56] <maynoth> hey does anyone here know how to delete a folder that is locked..?
[12:56] <miksu> razor-x my upgrade is soon finished. took about 6 hours
[12:56] <stimpie> tapox, 2072 seeds 1788 leechers
[12:57] <Razor-X> miksu: case in point :P
[12:57] <thundr> effie, I was going to say, it's no netherlands, and it's relatively expensive, but I guess it works.
[12:57] <maynoth> is there anyway to give the file manager root permisions?
[12:57] <stimpie> effie, and you can get 24Mb/s ;-)
[12:57] <anthony> When playing webpages embedded WMV files using VLC, there's only audio stream but no video stream, do I have to install certain codec/plug-in/package in order to get the video to work?
[12:57] <josh43> maynoth, add "sudo" to the beginning of the remove command
[12:57] <effie> still, gotta dl/ to seed
[12:57] <thundr> maynoth, or gksudo if you're in X
[12:57] <tapox> stimpie: Oh, okay
[12:57] <beerockxs> I just updated to breezy from Hoary, and the "show desktop" and the "trash" buttons in the task bar don't have their icon, but a red x
[12:57] <sally_> running sudo dpkg --configure -a returns nothing but fixes the problem
[12:57] <Razor-X> what version of ratpoison does Breezy use?
[12:57] <Seveas> !info ratpoison breezy
[12:57] <ubotu> ratpoison: (Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 1.3.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 280 kB
[12:57] <miksu> how do i re-add the starter panel. accidentally removed it ???
[12:57] <josh43> beerockxs, Remove them from panel and re-add
[12:57] <carlson> hi all! i will ask a question that probably was made for about a thousand times.... i changed my apt-get sources.list from hoary to breezy and my system is working almost well, and it look like its upd to date.... do i need to do more to get a breezy from my hoary distro?
[12:57] <maynoth> is there anyway to do it via gui?
[12:57] <effie> the next-torrent should be a 'svn-like' system combined to torrent
[12:57] <Seveas> miksu, rightclick on panel
[12:57] <Razor-X> Seveas: thanks
[12:57] <maynoth> total noob and I hate the CLI
[12:58] <Seveas> select add to panel, etc..
[12:58] <miksu> seveas yeah but the entire upper panel is removed
[12:58] <Supermang> you have no panels? lol
[12:58] <effie> I mean, starting to add my little download/upload speed to the seed is not helping much right now
[12:58] <bitblit> any idea where i can go to get help with my computer not booting up after an ubuntu 5.10 install?
[12:58] <Seveas> miksu, rightclick the bottom one, select new panel
[12:58] <josh43> carlson, yes: http://tinyurl.com/dkllj
[12:58] <beerockxs> josh43: they don't have their icons in the "add to panel" program, either
[12:58] <thundr> maynoth, yes, execute gksudo then nautilus from the applications menu
[12:58] <JDigital> Heh heh, I just saw http://www.zenlinux.com/ubuntu_challenge/
[12:58] <josh43> beerockxs, Hrm.. not sure then :(
[12:58] <beerockxs> and in the "places" menu, the icons for home and computer also don't show up
[12:58] <effie> but if I could 'seed' the complete installed ubunto on my disk it would help somehow
[12:58] <beerockxs> same for desktop
[12:58] <Razor-X> Seveas: how will ratpoison cope with a Debian installed ratpoison package?
[12:59] <carlson> josh43, thanks a lot
[12:59] <Seveas> Razor-X, ENOCLUE
[12:59] <josh43> carlson, yw :)
[12:59] <Razor-X> Seveas: because ratpoison has no real dependancies, I just installed a Debian package (because the Hoary one is a few years old)
[12:59] <effie> ratpoison on ubuntu?
[12:59] <Razor-X> effie: yeahp
[12:59] <miksu> seveas there is no such option !!! HELP!
[12:59] <effie> har har
[12:59] <miksu> seveas oh now i got it
[12:59] <josh43> beerockxs, Sounds like the actual icons are gone or restricted permissions
[01:00] <Razor-X> effie: wanna see a screenshot?
[01:00] <Seveas> miksu, :)
[01:00] <effie> yeah
[01:00] <shadeofgrey> so....  lemme make sure i got this straight...  i dont have to do anything special to get the 64 bit versions of everything?  all i have to do is make sure that my sources.lisdt file is good and im fine..?
[01:00] <sally_> never mind, that worked once, but the problem came back,  and typing that doesnt work anymore
[01:00] <Razor-X> effie: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png
[01:00] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, no
[01:00] <josh43> shadeofgrey, Yes and yes
[01:00] <thundr> lol
[01:00] <BockBilbo> Seveas, is there any known problem with mysql or iptables after dist upgrading to breezy?
[01:00] <beerockxs> josh43: well yeah, but how?
[01:00] <shadeofgrey> ...does this mean that i can ONLY run 64 bit stuff or are the 32bit programs backwards compatible?
[01:00] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, if you installed 32 bit you need to reinstall to get 64bit
[01:00] <TFP_> hi
[01:00] <Cyrus> Hey, i'm a total rookie..so does anyone wanna help me out with Dual Boot Installations?
[01:00] <josh43> shadeofgrey, I mean; no and yes, respectivly ;)
[01:00] <tapox> Cyrus: Sure.
[01:00] <TFP_> how can i define a shortcut for a specific program?
[01:00] <Razor-X> shadeofgrey: you can run a 32-bit chroot to run 32 bit programs
[01:00] <popey> Cyrus: dual boot what and what?
[01:00] <Seveas> Cyrus, the installer does that by itseld:)
[01:00] <Razor-X> Cyrus: shoot
[01:01] <shadeofgrey> wait
[01:01] <shadeofgrey> so
[01:01] <Cyrus> thank.
[01:01] <frank23> shadeofgrey: it's not easy to get the 32 bit programs to work
[01:01] <virgule> TFP: provide some details please: There is 'ln' among a couple others..
[01:01] <effie> ..interesting stufff you're reading
[01:01] <bitblit> this sucks ubuntu wont boot and i cant find any howto articles on grub
[01:01] <shadeofgrey> i cant install beep media player or anything because they arent 64bit???
[01:01] <jrattner1> Torrent is running at .38 KB/s
[01:01] <Razor-X> effie: not reading, writing :P
[01:01] <bitblit> anyone else having problems booting after a clean install?
[01:01] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, there's a 64bit beep too...
[01:01] <Cyrus> lets see...i like the Live CD, and i wanted to set up my system dual boot so i can really learn linux
[01:01] <popey> jrattner1: how long has it been running?
[01:01] <Cyrus> and i have 2 paritions.
[01:01] <josh43> BockBilbo, There are no known anythings about dist-upgrade yet.. it's been out for <24hr
[01:01] <effie> you're into that kinda stuff?
[01:01] <stimpie> jrattner1, you must be doing something wrong. are you behind a firewall/nat?
[01:01] <shadeofgrey> okjay well first things first
[01:01] <popey> jrattner1: have you opened up the necessary ports?
[01:01] <jrattner1> 2 hours and 26 minutes
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> gotta get nvidia running
[01:02] <thundr> Cyrus, you've got xp?
[01:02] <beerockxs> also, the icon-preview for text files no longer works on the desktop
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> brb
[01:02] <Cyrus> yeah
[01:02] <nderjm_> If Anyone asks about a display issue with Breezy on the omnibook, tell them to use the Vesa driver and advanced monitor configuration.  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17719
[01:02] <josh43> shadeofgrey, You can also compile from source; it's no big deal
[01:02] <Razor-X> Cyrus: the installer does most of the work, if you have NTFS, you have to allocate your own free space, though
[01:02] <beerockxs> files and folders on the desktop all have the same icon
[01:02] <Razor-X> effie: it was homework
[01:02] <Cyrus> so i've heard it was...
[01:02] <Razor-X> effie: can you guess my age from my homework? :P
[01:02] <Cyrus> i just like being in control
[01:02] <effie> ah, historician, about 23?
[01:02] <thundr> Cyrus, just install and make sure it lists xp after it installs GRUB to the MBR.
[01:02] <BockBilbo> josh43, well it has screwed up smthing in my config
[01:02] <Razor-X> effie: but yeah, I like history, I put my heart into it
[01:02] <steph> what file do i edit to change the system default runlevel?
[01:02] <jrattner1> popey, what ports do i need to open? its connecting just transfering slowly
[01:02] <npiv> ubuntu keyboard sets at install were somewhat limited, im on an acer travelmate, how can I tweak the keyboard response right ?
[01:02] <Razor-X> effie: hahaha, no, aspiring mathematician, 15
[01:02] <BockBilbo> now i cant access remotely to my db
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> josh43:  ive never compiled anything from source....  if i wanted that kind of headdache id install Fedora and NEVER get anything done
[01:03] <effie> cewl
[01:03] <Cyrus> well see, i got to the manually editing paritions part.
[01:03] <effie> you think a lot for your age :)
[01:03] <josh43> Cyrus, Yeah, delete the second partition, leave it as free space and boot the install disk
[01:03] <Razor-X> effie: meh
[01:03] <TFP_> virgule,  i want to open a program with CTRL+ALT+A
[01:03] <thundr> Cyrus, that was for Hoary, though
[01:03] <maynoth> cannot lauch the terminal window.. anyone know if this is a breezy bug?
[01:03] <TFP_> virgule, how can i do this?
[01:03] <Cyrus> oh, well i've got the Breezy CD.
[01:03] <beerockxs> how do i get all the icons back? :-(
[01:03] <effie> I dunno, when I was 15, I was obsessed with other stuff
[01:03] <bitblit> i sure would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction. system will not boot after a clean ubuntu install; grub never loads. have to reinstall with windows as active partition in order to boot...
[01:03] <thundr> Cyrus, unless you want the stuff on the second partition
[01:03] <effie> monkey bussness :)
[01:03] <lampshade> shadeofgrey:  more like you'd want gentoo or lfs Fedora can run apt and has yum
[01:03] <Razor-X> npiv: you can always get a keyboard layout online for xkbd
[01:03] <josh43> shadeofgrey, I used to think that way too, but it's easy.. just 3 commands: ./configure, make, make install
[01:03] <Cyrus> well i've  got 2 paritions already set up.
[01:03] <Razor-X> npiv: or set up your own
[01:03] <Cyrus> C has 70 gb and has all thewindows stuff i want with NTFS
[01:03] <Razor-X> effie: meh
[01:04] <Cyrus> i want to keep that.
[01:04] <thundr> Cyrus, is there anything on those partitions you want?
[01:04] <virgule> TFP a keyboard shortcut? I sorry I dont know --I dont use'em yet. There must be a 'keybinding' thing around I aint sure sorry ;( Keep digging you will find
[01:04] <Cyrus> and D has 10 GB of FAT32
[01:04] <Razor-X> Cyrus: is that the only partition you have?
[01:04] <Cyrus> nope
[01:04] <Cyrus> 2
[01:04] <Cyrus> C and D
[01:04] <josh43> bitblit, Did you put grub in the MBR (it asks at install)?
[01:04] <Cyrus> D is Fat32
[01:04] <thundr> Cyrus, anything on D you want?
[01:04] <Cyrus> no, D is completely blank
[01:04] <Razor-X> Cyrus: so, are you planning to wipe D for space?
[01:04] <steph> how do i make my system boot to text mode? runlevels seem to be different in ubuntu
[01:04] <npiv> Razor-X thanks, I cant find any info on it in the guide, got a refference or link ?
[01:04] <Cyrus> well i want to keep the C un modified
[01:04] <josh43> Cyrus: Delete D and leave it as free space
[01:04] <bitblit> josh43: yes, i did, and no apparent errors from the installer. i've installed grub with gentoo before and it worked fine though...
[01:04] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to execute a .sh file ?
[01:04] <Razor-X> Cyrus: ok then, that makes it easy, although why did you put FAT32 on it?
[01:04] <effie> well, you hide well.
[01:04] <TFP_> virgule: ok thx
[01:04] <thundr> Cyrus, you can put it all on D if you want
[01:04] <Cyrus> well, it wasn't my choosing.
[01:05] <beerockxs> anyone?
[01:05] <Razor-X> Cyrus: yeah, detele D, basically, and it's helpful to have about 1.5 - 2.0 GB space
[01:05] <Cyrus> it was my windows recoery partition...
[01:05] <Cyrus> and i cleared it out
[01:05] <Razor-X> npiv: hmmm, not offhand, google will do you wonders though
[01:05] <davro> Cyrus: sounds like you have the needed setup, just make sure you install ubuntu into the correct partition, ubuntu should reconise the XP install and add that to your mbr handled by grub.
[01:05] <josh43> B_166-ER-X, sh shfile.sh
[01:05] <sally_> speaking of compiling from source... I need to install ndiswrapper to get my wireless nic working, there doesn't seem to be an ndiswrapper binary package, only a src package at http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndiswrapper/
[01:05] <Cyrus> after i got the recovery cds.
[01:05] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[01:05] <Razor-X> npiv: I used to know a lot of the stuff, because I have a Dvorak keyboard, meself
[01:05] <Seveas> sally_, there is
[01:05] <thundr> Cyrus, or you can put half of it on D and half on C in the free space.  Whichever you prefer.
[01:05] <joe__> hi guys
[01:05] <maynoth> wow... breezy is really buggy...
[01:05] <joe__> have a question
[01:06] <Seveas> the kernel module is in linux-restricted-modules and the ndiswrapper program is in ndiswrapper-utils
[01:06] <sally_> Seveas: you know where the binary ndiswrapper package is?
[01:06] <maynoth> there was an error launching the application
[01:06] <Seveas> sally_, I justsaid it ;)
[01:06] <oddietaco> what's the best way to upgrade my ubuntu to the newest version?
[01:06] <Cyrus> Thundr: my only intention is to put it on D.
[01:06] <steph> how do i make my system boot to text mode rather than gui?
[01:06] <Cyrus> and create a swap...
[01:06] <joe__> i have this win32codecs taht i dowloaded from the tinyurl.com site, but i cant make it install into the correct drecotry
[01:06] <effie> ok, well, the ppl I was doing some help on the phone to never rang back after I told em to install *all* gstreamer stuff they could find.
[01:06] <lampshade> ubotu: tell oddietaco about upgrade2breezy
[01:06] <Cyrus> don't really like automatic stuff though.
[01:06] <beerockxs> ah, switching the theme and back again fixed it josh43
[01:06] <cricketloddo100> does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.1
[01:06] <maynoth> error reading file file:///home/<insert username here>/
[01:06] <effie> I guess they're ok then....
[01:07] <thundr> Cyrus, that'll work.  You will want to delete the partition on D so it's listed as free space.
[01:07] <sally_> Seveas: thanks I'll give it a shot
[01:07] <_jason> joe__:  what are you doing to install it
[01:07] <Cyrus> i want to be the one that scerws it up if something goes wrong, heaven forbid.
[01:07] <josh43> beerockxs, Wierd, good stuff tho :)
[01:07] <bitblit> josh43: any ideas?
[01:07] <jrattner1> ubotu: tell jrattner1 about upgrade2breezy
[01:07] <maynoth> and lots of weird locked folders i cannot delete
[01:07] <maynoth> LOL
[01:07] <effie> maynoth, are you having such an idiotic username
[01:07] <sally_> Seveas: wait, are those in universe?
[01:07] <effie> ?
[01:07] <joe__> sudo dpkg -i wincodecs32
[01:07] <davro> oddietaco: update your apt sources to breezy, update, dist-upgrade
[01:07] <joe__> __jason
[01:07] <effie> /home/maynoth?
[01:07] <maynoth> yeah
[01:07] <effie> :)
[01:07] <thundr> Cyrus, by going into manually partitoin
[01:07] <thundr> Cyrus, *partition
[01:07] <effie> I would never dare to show my 'real' /home/loozer/
[01:08] <josh43> bitblit: Not really.. I always install grub to the linux partition and use a bootloader I like: xosl
[01:08] <starscalling> ok
[01:08] <maynoth> i cannot load anything
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> any1
[01:08] <synd> Any NFS experts in here?
[01:08] <maynoth> LOL
[01:08] <anthony> When playing webpages embedded WMV files using VLC, there's only audio stream but no video stream, do I have to install certain codec/plug-in/package in order to get the video to work?
[01:08] <_jason> joe__:  you put the .deb on the end of that?  Is it giving you some kind of error
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> help
[01:08] <maynoth> I guess I will format and reinstall again
[01:08] <joe__> yes i dod
[01:08] <starscalling> what would be the downside to running breezy compaired to hoary please?
[01:08] <Seveas> sally_, no
[01:08] <Cyrus> yep
[01:08] <maynoth> maybe i will just wait for dapper...
[01:08] <joe__> __jason yes i did
[01:08] <bitblit> josh43: so i can install grub to partition and use xosl instead?
[01:08] <effie> ok lads, -ciao-
[01:08] <effie> **
[01:08] <maynoth> or xandros4
[01:08] <joe__> it's actually a fairl long name for a file
[01:08] <thundr> Cyrus, then you may want to make a 3 GB for ext3 or that other one that starts with R.
[01:08] <lui> Cyrus check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[01:08] <nderjm_> Could someone remind me where statup messages are logged pleasee?
[01:08] <josh43> bitblit, Definately, if you know how to use xosl, the world of dualboot is your oyster
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.1
[01:08] <virgule> anyone can help me resolving some kind of network problems? -- The 'internet' seam soooo slow to respond to my requests Its like a 33.6 modem but Im with a 500 cable
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.1
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.1
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.1
[01:08] <cricketloddo100> does any1 know how to changed Debian testing/unstable to debian 3.1
[01:09] <thundr> cricketloddo100, No.
[01:09] <Kyral> Stop!
[01:09] <lampshade> uh oh
[01:09] <lampshade> hahah
[01:09] <Blair> i take it that people have been able to install this release, so the problem i am having is limited to my hardware?
[01:09] <nderjm_> Where are startup messages logged?
[01:09] <bitblit> josh43: thanks i'll have to look at it
[01:09] <thundr> Cyrus, and the 3 GB one should be for the main ubuntu
[01:09] <Seveas> nderjm_, /var/log/kern.log / dmesg
[01:09] <nderjm_> thanks
[01:09] <virgule> dmesg I think
[01:09] <Blair> nderjm_...in the log?
[01:09] <joe__> __jason, the error i get is, joe@ubuntulaptop:~$ sudo dpkg -i win32codecs.deb
[01:09] <joe__> dpkg: error processing win32codecs.deb (--install):
[01:09] <joe__>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:09] <joe__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:09] <joe__>  win32codecs.deb
[01:10] <thundr> Cyrus, you could make another partition for /home/ so you can put your stuff there (it's like my documents and you put everything there)
[01:10] <josh43> bitblit, yw, hope it works out for you.. I started with xosl becuase a way was multi-booting 35+ os's with no problem, so I know I dont need to worry ;)
[01:10] <thundr> Cyrus, and that can be as large as you want.
[01:10] <Cyrus> well, i think i had it all set up...
[01:10] <Cyrus> i had my C: for windows.
[01:10] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[01:10] <bimberi> joe__: you got the filename wrong (and don't paste)
[01:10] <Cyrus> my D: for Ubuntu.
[01:10] <Eppu> synd: what's the problem?
[01:10] <Cyrus> and i set up a swap partition
[01:10] <stimpie> I've download the iso, how do I copy all de .deb files into to my /var/cache/apt/archives?
[01:10] <Cyrus> in the manually edit
[01:10] <Cyrus> and then
[01:11] <Blair> the specific problem i have is that it starts unpacking packages and after it gets into the g's it starts to have errors and claim "can't download ____" and when it gets done with the z's (zlibg, I think) it thinks for a bit and then claims it couldn't install...
[01:11] <Cyrus> i went to create...or something of that sort
[01:11] <Cyrus> and i got a red screen.
[01:11] <stimpie> stimpie, it is mounted but all the files are in different directories
[01:11] <_jason> joe__:  in the future use pastebin to paste errors.  Are you sure the name is not "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb"
[01:11] <thundr> Cyrus, if you make a seperate /home directory if you have to reinstall ubuntu you won't have to backup/lose all your files
[01:11] <Blair> shouldn't be downloading anything as there's no network connected
[01:11] <Seveas> stimpie, find /mountpoint/of/iso -name '*.deb' -exec cp '{}' /var/cache/apt/archives ';'
[01:11] <josh43> joe__, Best way to make sure the file is there: tab-completion.. start typing the filename, press tab
[01:11] <Razor-X> steph: you can always remove your dm
[01:12] <Blair> is there any way to verify the downloaded .iso file so that i can tell whether the problem is in the download, in the burned cd, or something is bad in the .iso itself?
[01:12] <thundr> Cyrus, what did the red screen say?
[01:12] <breakthestate> if i have the breezy realease candidate, how to i upgrade to the official 5.10 release using apt-get?
[01:12] <stimpie> Seveas, thanx
[01:12] <Seveas> Blair, check the md5 sum
[01:12] <Cyrus> something about needing to set some sort of root.
[01:12] <starscalling> Seveas:: how stable is the new release?
[01:12] <Cyrus> ...i didn't think much of it at the time.
[01:12] <Seveas> breakthestate, apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:12] <starscalling> and is there anything i should consider before changing to it?
[01:12] <Cyrus> except the red was pretty evil.
[01:12] <Blair> seveas...where's it stored?
[01:13] <Seveas> StarKruzr, very stable
[01:13] <breakthestate> Seveas - thanks
[01:13] <Blair> and how do i calculate it for the iso?
[01:13] <zax> I need help mounting my fat32 maxtor drive
[01:13] <Seveas> starscalling, read the releasenotes, see /topic
[01:13] <thundr> Cyrus, oh, yeah, you'll want to set the 2-3 gb partition as /
[01:13] <starscalling> and is there any command to uninstall all extra packages ive installed to date?
[01:13] <starscalling> thankyou Seveas
[01:13] <zax> anyone know how
[01:13] <bimberi> Blair: md5sum file.iso (in a terminal)
[01:13] <jmain> I have the Breazy install disk.  How do you install fresh without wiping out the home directory?
[01:13] <thundr> Cyrus, otherwise nothing will work.
[01:13] <Cyrus> so i set the Linux partition to "/"
[01:13] <josh43> jmain, Backup the home partition
[01:13] <Blair> stupid question:  you think cygwin has md5sum? because i downloaded on a windows pc
[01:13] <starscalling> are there any changes in the iso for 5.10 in the last week Seveas ?
[01:14] <ssdd65> how do i add the breezy repos to my synaptic?
[01:14] <Seveas> starscalling, lots
[01:14] <thundr> Cyrus, yes, and I recommend making a seperate partition for /home/ too
[01:14] <_jason> joe__:  in the future use pastebin to paste errors.  Are you sure the name is not "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb"
[01:14] <Seveas> ssdd65, /topic
[01:14] <zax> anyone know how to I need help mounting my fat32 maxtor drive
[01:14] <Cyrus> oh
[01:14] <starscalling> ah so i would want to redownload and burn that too
[01:14] <Cyrus> ok
[01:14] <Cyrus> then i think i had it.
[01:14] <snarf> to install kde, do i just apt-get install kde?
[01:14] <zax> its usb
[01:14] <Seveas> !tell zax about ntfs
[01:14] <Cyrus> thanks...
[01:14] <_jason> joe__:  sorry, pasted by accident
[01:14] <Seveas> ah usb should automount Zanoi
[01:14] <Seveas> zax*
[01:14] <ssdd65> thanks
[01:14] <The_Vox> SnakeBite: I recommend doing "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:14] <The_Vox> ugh, that was for snarf
[01:15] <snarf> ok
[01:15] <thundr> Cyrus, no problem.  If you run into any other problems don't hesitate to ask.
[01:15] <Blair> maybe what i'll do is boot, wait until it cacks, break into a root shell, then try to md5sum the cd on the nonworking hw...then check it against the burning hw...
[01:15] <B_166-ER-X> hep : I'm trying to install unrealT2k4,  the install prog ask me to mount the second cd... but my drive wont eject, and i cant umount it since it is 'occupied' but if a close the running program it will be no more... so.. , how do i 'overide' eject? or what ?
[01:15] <Blair> back in a few
[01:16] <starscalling> Seveas:: could i use the iso i burned for breezy last saturday and do a apt-get upgrade to match with new files? or is downloading the latest iso neccisary? i want to do a clean install from the begining not upgrade is why i ask
[01:16] <Seveas> starscalling, using last weeks iso is fine
[01:16] <starscalling> awesome! thankyou a lot Seveas ! ill be back in a few hours then guys :P
[01:16] <starscalling> or less!
[01:16] <Seveas> good luck :)
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas, can you help me here ?  :|
[01:16] <anthony> What's the repository for getting the "win32codecs" package?
[01:17] <starscalling> upgrading to breezy see EVERYONE AFTEH >_>
[01:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell anthony about w32codecs
[01:17] <hajiki> ubotu tell hajiki about w32codecs
[01:17] <bimberi> hajiki: you can say "ubotu tell me..." :)
[01:18] <N17R0> ubotu tell N17R0 about w32codecs
[01:18] <bimberi> or better - /msg ubotu w32codecs (then it's not in the channel)
[01:18] <hajiki> bimberi, didnt know thanks
[01:18] <bimberi> hajiki: np :)
[01:18] <anthony> ubotu tell me about how to install deb files
[01:18] <Kyral> Anyone know how I would install VLC from Sid?
[01:19] <bimberi> anthony: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:19] <anthony> bimberi: Thanks.
[01:19] <bimberi> anthony: yw :)
[01:19] <B_166-ER-X> hep : I'm trying to install unrealT2k4,  the install prog ask me to mount the second cd... but my drive wont eject, and i cant umount it since it is 'occupied' but if a close the running program it will be no more... so.. , how do i 'overide' eject? or what ?
[01:19] <german> hi!
[01:19] <cafuego_> Kyral: By fetching the source deb and building it on your own machine.
[01:19] <BlueMat> Ive got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?
[01:19] <Razor-X> B_166-ER-X: eject /dev/cdrom
[01:19] <flora> ok i know how to edit fstab, but how do i make mounted partitions stay after reboot using the Disks applet?
[01:20] <mhz_on_wiki> hi all
[01:20] <seife> how do i blank a cd and then burn a cd with mp3 songs and some .jpg images
[01:20] <german> the Multiverse repositories dontt run
[01:20] <Razor-X> seife: try using K3B, Gnomebaker, or Graveman
[01:20] <mhz_on_wiki> What is the best simple command line application to convert ogg into mp3 ?
[01:21] <john__> Hey, anyone know how to change the resolution of the GDM?
[01:21] <B_166-ER-X> Razor-X  i have a 'please insert next cd' window open..so it WONT umount (then eject) thats my problem
[01:21] <BlueMat> Ive got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?
[01:21] <flora> !tell me about audio codecs
[01:21] <john__> I changed my gnome reso and it didn't affect the GDM
[01:21] <Kyral> B_166-ER-X, copy the installer script to the HD and then run it
[01:21] <flora> !tell me about mp3
[01:21] <bimberi> seife: or nautilus (the file manager), copy and paste the files to Go->CD/DVD Creator, then select "Write to CD"
[01:21] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[01:21] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[01:21] <B_166-ER-X> i'll try this
[01:21] <Kyral> then you should be able to unmount the CD
[01:21] <Razor-X> B_166-ER-X: umount -f /mnt/path/to/cdrom
[01:21] <josh43> ok, question: is there any way at all to rip the 3d hardware config from a livecd? I never have a problem with my 9800pro with live cds, but I cannot for the life of me get it running on an install
[01:21] <icewt> mhz_on_wiki, maybe this http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3 ?
[01:21] <rekrutacja> do you know how to change ubuntu logo in breezy back to gnome foot?
[01:21] <german> spanish ???
[01:21] <B_166-ER-X> whats -f ?
[01:21] <Razor-X> B_166-ER-X: force
[01:22] <Kyral> the installer is complaining because if you eject the CD, it won't have a place to run from
[01:22] <Razor-X> german: #ubuntu-es
[01:22] <maynoth> anyone know how to delete locked folders via gui?
[01:22] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[01:22] <mhz_on_wiki> john__: afaik, GDM uses images that won't change resolution
[01:22] <Kyral> if you run it from the Hard Drive it will be okay
[01:22] <josh43> maynoth, Yes, but it's harder than doing them from command line
[01:22] <BlueMat> Ive got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need to know something important
[01:22] <mhz_on_wiki> icewt: I apt-cache searched for it unsuccessffully
[01:22] <josh43> maynoth, And potentially more dangerous
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> what is gstreamer for and why is it important to my installation?
[01:23] <Kyral> Hmm
[01:23] <Kyral> Should I try Breezy -> Sid...
[01:23] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: It handles media content
[01:23] <TFP_> how can i watch quicktime streams ins firefox?
[01:23] <flora> is this the right repository deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main ?
[01:23] <josh43> shadeofgrey, It's the driver backend for your video player
[01:23] <sorush20> I'm unable to stop hotplug subsystem.
[01:23] <maynoth> well how do you do it if you dont mind telling me
[01:23] <flora> i get an error when apt-get update with that in my sources.list
[01:23] <icewt> mhz_on_wiki, it's a simple script. you don't need to install it through apt
[01:23] <josh43> shadeofgrey, If you know what codecs are in windows, it's very similar
[01:23] <horza> anyone got a howto to get console to 1024*768 ?
[01:23] <shadeofgrey> okay
[01:24] <Razor-X> horza: console as in a tty, or a terminal emulator?
[01:24] <mhz_on_wiki> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-cache search gstreamer and then repeat the command but change search for show and add the correct name. maybe 'gstreamer-0.8'
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> what do i need to install to get this installation to recognise and stream windows media stuff and quicktime stuff?
[01:24] <mhz_on_wiki> icewt: ooooh, duh!
[01:24] <josh43> shadeofgrey, You are on amd64 ubuntu, correct?
[01:24] <Feral_Kid> Ok, the latest question... Does backports work with 5.10?
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> josh43:  yes
[01:25] <cafuego_> horza: via fbcon; you need to pass a boot time parameter to the kernel to make it use  aframebuffer AND tell it what resolution to run at. Google for the exact syntax and driver options for your vga card.
[01:25] <icewt> mhz_on_wiki, however, you may need to apt-get some programs for the script to work
[01:25] <horza> Razor-X, want it to boot in 1024*768
[01:25] <bimberi> Feral_Kid: no, there aren't any breezy backports (yet) afaik
[01:25] <mhz_on_wiki> icewt: i see, thx
[01:25] <john__> mhz_on_wiki, thats wrong
[01:25] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: With *all* gstreamer stuff, mine plays quicktimes and avi. (badly, but it plays them)
[01:25] <josh43> shadeofgrey, Well, I'm doing it through xine with the ffmpeg drivers, but that's still not 100%
[01:25] <TFP_> has anyone got a suggestion?
[01:25] <Razor-X> horza: you want the WM resolution to be 1024*768, or....?
[01:25] <pipoun> Hoy hoy
[01:25] <BlueMat> Ive got a box internet connect shares to another, If i dual booting the box will windows be able to pick up the ubuntu ICS easy enough?
[01:25] <mhz_on_wiki> john__: ?
[01:25] <TFP_> i want to watch movie trailers on apple.com
[01:25] <Kaiser> hi
[01:25] <TFP_> but it doesn't work
[01:26] <CapnCook> man these us repos are sloooooow today
[01:26] <josh43> shadeofgrey, cafuego Brings up a good point: install all the gstreamer packages
[01:26] <maynoth> anyone know how to delete locked folders via gui?
[01:26] <gabriel> how can i install a plugin to listen mp3 files?
[01:26] <josh43> TFP_, Are you running ubuntu 64 bit?
[01:26] <shadeofgrey> what about mplayer and the w32codecs stuff?
[01:26] <Razor-X> maynoth: is the console that unbearable? :P
[01:26] <tuppa> hrm
[01:26] <cafuego_> maynoth: You can't. chown them first in the console, THEn delete them via the gui.
[01:27] <josh43> shadeofgrey, sorry.. a64 and mplayer is a no-go
[01:27] <tuppa> is the UI fonts in firefox not following the GNOME settings or is it just me
[01:27] <TFP_> josh43: nope
[01:27] <maynoth> xmms can play mp3s by default doesn't it?
[01:27] <maynoth> yeah the console sucks
[01:27] <maynoth> LOL
[01:27] <lsuactiafner> maynoth : or tun the deleting program as root
[01:27] <josh43> TFP_, Install VLC and use that
[01:27] <tuppa> it seems to be on Sans Serif 12 instead of what I had in GNOME
[01:27] <horza> Razor-X, the console
[01:27] <Razor-X> maynoth: meh, I use console most of the time :P
[01:27] <TFP_> josh43: how?
[01:27] <lsuactiafner> console is easy
[01:27] <TFP_> just install vlc?
[01:27] <cafuego_> TFP_: There's an mplayer plugin for firefox/mozilla. use that. It may or may not work.
[01:27] <maynoth> well how to do create a root user
[01:27] <oddietaco> i'm getting an error about my /etc/fstab file.  is there somebody who can help me figure out what's wrong with it?
[01:27] <lsuactiafner> am in console right now to chat and play mp3s
[01:27] <maynoth> so I can log in as root
[01:27] <maynoth> and delete the folders
[01:27] <maynoth> LOL
[01:27] <TFP_> and whats that with vlc?
[01:27] <cafuego_> maynoth: 'sudo rm -rf foldername'
[01:28] <josh43> TFP_, Yes, vlc will play apple.com trailers
[01:28] <lsuactiafner> maynoth : as i do it, but be very very carefull
[01:28] <cafuego_> maynoth: You don't need a root user.
[01:28] <shadeofgrey> okay well look...  i HAVE to be able to play windows media and quicktime -- i use it every day for my job...  so it needs to totally work
[01:28] <maynoth> well it would be a lot easier
[01:28] <lsuactiafner> unless its someone elses data and you have someone else to blame also
[01:28] <TFP_> josh43: do i have to configure something for that?
[01:28] <Cyrus> hey...i tried to install...
[01:28] <Razor-X> horza: .... there are many consoles, you could be using a terminal emulator (which means it is a console in a GUI window), or a tty (which means you use a Ctrl+Alt+F# combination, where # is a number between 0-9, to switch outside of X)
[01:28] <maynoth> how do you create one
[01:28] <anathema_> rm -rf as root is unbelievably dangerous
[01:28] <anathema_> haha
[01:28] <Cyrus> but it didn't work too well
[01:28] <josh43> TFP_, It's in synaptic
[01:28] <Cyrus> if anyone wants to help me via AIM or something...let me know.
[01:28] <Razor-X> anathema_: don't say that, some people do it just for fun to see how ``dangerous'' it is :P
[01:28] <anathema_> hahah
[01:28] <Cyrus> because im' not registered.
[01:28] <cafuego_> maynoth: You don't need one. Use your own user account and prefix any root command with 'sudo'. it will ask for _YOUR_ password and run the command with root privileges.
[01:28] <TFP_> no i mean when i have it installed
[01:28] <anathema_> hose your system instantly dangerous
[01:28] <anathema_> haha
[01:28] <shadeofgrey> if its better for me to go back to 32bit land, please say so NOW before i go any further with customizing this install
[01:28] <anathema_> just like the dd command
[01:28] <anathema_> haha
[01:29] <Razor-X> anathema_: :P
[01:29] <horza> Razor-X: then its tty, im pretty new on linux :)
[01:29] <anathema_> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[01:29] <anathema_> haha
[01:29] <maynoth> does anyone here know how to create a root account?
[01:29] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: If you want video, dvd, flash and java, use 32bit.
[01:29] <josh43> shadeofgrey, If you need it to read everything windows does, go to ubuntu 32
[01:29] <sphivo> shadeofgrey: If that is the case, it will be amazingly easier to use 32bit.
[01:29] <cafuego_> maynoth: Are you deaf?
[01:29] <maynoth> so you can log in as root
[01:29] <Cyrus> i went through the installer again...and it already set up 3 partitions.
[01:29] <shadeofgrey> okay
[01:29] <bimberi> Cyrus: just tell the channel what you mean by "didn't work too well" and someone might be able to help :)
[01:29] <Razor-X> horza: hmmmm, you're going to have to change your terminal font
[01:29] <shadeofgrey> crap...  i wish id known that...
[01:29] <Cyrus> well
[01:29] <Cyrus> i got an error
[01:29] <Cyrus> that said
[01:29] <CapnCook> maynoth do a serch on ubuntu forums you will find it there
[01:30] <stimpie> shadeofgrey, or ask microsoft to make a 64 bit codec ;-)
[01:30] <josh43> shadeofgrey, You and me both ;)
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> oh well...  its only 40 mins or so to replace it
[01:30] <skel_> I have a issue with Amarok it is unable to add any mousi to my colelction... it gets to 100% and shuts down anyone know what this coudl be?
[01:30] <Cyrus> Dbootstrap program exited without error (return value 1)
[01:30] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: There's always the i386 chroot option...
[01:30] <Cyrus> check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log
[01:30] <airmikey> ok r we back to compileing with breezy..cause nothin loads with synaptics
[01:30] <horza> Razor-X, got a howto or something?
[01:30] <josh43> shadeofgrey, Or, ask everyone to use open-source codecs ;)
[01:30] <anathema_> airmikey: you are doin somehting wrong haha
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> cafuego:  id rather just kiull the whole installation and ewinstall 32bit
[01:30] <airmikey> that helps
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> actually
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> no
[01:30] <cafuego_> stimpie: Once those monkeys that wripe mplayer get their own amd64 machines, I'm sure support will be swift.
[01:31] <josh43> cafuego, Much agreed
[01:31] <cafuego_> write
[01:31] <Razor-X> horza: i'm actually not that sure, try google on that, I find a terminal emulator much more pleasing to the eye
[01:31] <TFP_> josh43: i installed vlc and the plugin and it doesnt work, do i have to configure vlc?
[01:31] <anathema_> Razor-X: compared to what?
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> y'know what?  ill just throw the 32 bit version on my other disk
[01:31] <josh43> TFP_, open vlc first
[01:31] <stimpie> cafuego, indeed maybe amd should sponsor them with one
[01:31] <cafuego_> Much like Linux started woking much nicer on powerpc once Linus got a G5 ;-)
[01:31] <Razor-X> anathema_: hmmmm?
[01:31] <Razor-X> anathema_: compared to a tty
[01:31] <anathema_> terminal emulator pleasing compared to what
[01:31] <anathema_> oh
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> linus got a G5?
[01:32] <Razor-X> anathema_: I know a lot of people like their terminal emulators to loook like a tty, but, I don't
[01:32] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: And then, you cna use *that* 32bit install as chroot in the 64it one too ;-)
[01:32] <anathema_> heh i do
[01:32] <reiki> think 'm better off holding off on the upgrade until this weekend sometime?
[01:32] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: linux has a gual G5.
[01:32] <anathema_> black background
[01:32] <josh43> While the subject is up: has anyone noticed a big difference between ubuntu 32bit and 64bit? (4GB+ systems exempt ;))
[01:32] <cafuego_> linus too
[01:32] <anathema_> white textr
[01:32] <maynoth> anyone know what i should search for in the user forums to tell me how to create a root user
[01:32] <anathema_> ;D
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> he probably got it for free...  that bastard
[01:32] <oddietaco> if i want to switch from using gnome to using kde, should i remove ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop and install kubuntu-base and kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <Razor-X> anathema_: my terminal emulatorhas its own style which isn't GUI sugar, nor is it blocky-tty
[01:32] <Razor-X> anathema_: :P
[01:32] <anathema_> heheh
[01:32] <lsuactiafner> josh43 : yes, its faster
[01:32] <anathema_> some fancy background picture?
[01:32] <Razor-X> s/orhas/or has/
[01:32] <cafuego_> josh43: Compiling, sql, media encoding is faster on the 64bit version.
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> by the way guys...  he sold us all out..  hes now a contractor for microsoft vista development
[01:32] <josh43> oddietaco, You can install both
[01:32] <Razor-X> anathema_: not a very fancy picture, a very grayscale one
[01:33] <cafuego_> josh43: browsing, email and office are not (really)
[01:33] <Razor-X> anathema_: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png
[01:33] <oddietaco> josh43: cool. thanks
[01:33] <Razor-X> anathema_: there's my desktop, for you
[01:33] <Blair> man...setup is silly...trying to do dhcp before asking if i even have a network connected
[01:33] <lsuactiafner> shadeofgrey : who?
[01:33] <stimpie> shadeofgrey, yeah and the pope is gay
[01:33] <shadeofgrey> stimpie:  very gay
[01:33] <anathema_> Razor-X: that is very hard to read
[01:33] <anathema_> haha
[01:33] <TFP_> josh43: it's just black and says "no picture"
[01:33] <bimberi> Blair: they try very hard to miminise install questions
[01:33] <cafuego_> He abstains, so that's hardy relevant.
[01:34] <Kaiser> where can i find the checksum of the ubuntu iso`? got a failed with code 1 error ;(
[01:34] <lsuactiafner> blackbox is still best
[01:34] <Razor-X> anathema_: ... hard to read?
[01:34] <dooglus> can you recommend a terminal-based mail reader that's not mutt?
[01:34] <anathema_> that bg picture
[01:34] <Blair> they should try to minimize install HASSLES
[01:34] <cafuego_> Kaiser: It should be in the same location you downloaded the ISO from.
[01:34] <anathema_> really messes with your contrast
[01:34] <anathema_> heh
[01:34] <lsuactiafner> ok bleh night
[01:34] <maynoth> anyone got info on how to create a root account in breezy or where I can go in the forums to find out?
[01:34] <Blair> checking for arp would keep them from dhcp'ing
[01:34] <Cyrus> anyone know what i should do
[01:34] <josh43> TFP_, Not sure then.. if you installed the plugin, it should work.. possibly a reboot?
[01:34] <Cyrus> with a debootstrap error?
[01:34] <dooglus> Kaiser: use bittorrent and it will 'fix' the .iso for you
[01:34] <Razor-X> anathema_: oh yeah, when text hits the image, it gets hairy, but, I always divide my screen in half, and an IRC channel is up top, and my homework is on bottom
[01:34] <josh43> maynoth, wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <Razor-X> anathema_: that way, if I can't read something on an IRC channel, it's not that important, but it becomes a pain if it's homework
[01:35] <ethan-allison> what does "unrecognized image file format" mean
[01:35] <anathema_> hah yeah
[01:35] <anathema_> i like to read it all :D
[01:35] <Kaiser> ok.. thanks :)
[01:35] <Kyral> Anyone know how painful Breezy -> Sid would be?
[01:35] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: the image's file format wasn't recognized?
[01:35] <anathema_> Kyral: shudde
[01:35] <anathema_> r
[01:35] <TFP_> josh43: first open vlc and then go to apple.com and search for a trailer?
[01:35] <lsuactiafner> Razor-X : i do the same, but watch a movie + icq + abiword + browse.. tho broser i put in background most of the time
[01:35] <bimberi> maynoth: the root account is there, it's just disabled, "sudo passwd" to set a password
[01:35] <Blair> setup is silly, it keeps re-partitioning a disk that was partitioned correctly the first time i ran setup...it doesn't offer a "just accept the partitioning" option
[01:35] <ethan-allison> Razor-X: what does it imply
[01:35] <mustard5> maynoth, if you give root a password, you will have a root account .... sudo passwd root...i think it is
[01:35] <dooglus> Kaiser: md5sums are here: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS
[01:35] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: if you see my screenshot, check the top right
[01:35] <Kyral> anathema_, hmm
[01:35] <maynoth> thank you
[01:35] <Blair> have to infer it from the "manual configuration"
[01:35] <Kyral> Maybe a weekend project :D
[01:35] <[A] lex_Oz> how come the dvd iso's are not out yet?
[01:35] <anathema_> haha yeah
[01:35] <TiMiDo> Blair: then learn how to partition right
[01:36] <lsuactiafner> i think i saw it before
[01:36] <Blair> and then it doesn't work
[01:36] <anathema_> [A] lex_Oz: i also want the dvd iso
[01:36] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: hmmm, well, it implies that the format of the image isn't recognized by the program... it's not really computer speak, the program doesen't understand the format of the image
[01:36] <CapnCook> maynoth do this
[01:36] <ethan-allison> Razor-X: ok, maybe i was unclear
[01:36] <CapnCook> sudo passwd root
[01:36] <ethan-allison> what does it mean when every PNG image throws that error and GTK is all but dead
[01:36] <keffynd> hey all, got some issues in kaffiene, it need the win32 codecs (mplayer site is down) and libdvdcss (but cant find on apt-get)
[01:36] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: ahhh
[01:36] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: what program are you using to view your image?
[01:36] <CapnCook> now type in your root password and u are all set
[01:37] <ethan-allison> Razor-X: i'm not viewing images
[01:37] <ethan-allison> the panel and gaim are throwing them
[01:37] <mustard5> tell keffynd about restrictedformats
[01:37] <Determinist> erm, have the repositories changed upon the official release of breezy?
[01:37] <josh43> keffynd, You want a cheat to get all of them?
[01:37] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: hmmmm.... is this on breezy, or just hoary?
[01:37] <Blair> so then i do exactly the same thing and it starts partitioning...
[01:37] <mustard5> !tell keffynd about restrictedformats
[01:37] <ethan-allison> hoary
[01:37] <Blair> that didn't seem right
[01:37] <maynoth> thanks! :)
[01:37] <Blair> hoary's a good word here
[01:37] <CapnCook> your welcom
[01:37] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: try restarting X, by using Ctrl+Alt+Bksp
[01:38] <lsuactiafner> rootshell.be/~edc/bb0.jpg <-- thats a nice desktop
[01:38] <lsuactiafner> mplayer -rootwin, ie, the background is kate moss pole dancing
[01:38] <maynoth> ill brb
[01:38] <ethan-allison> Razor-X: i'm a DontZap guy, but i tried restarting X/the comp but no avail
[01:38] <Linoobux> holy cow, 668 people
[01:38] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: hmmm.... try reinstalling ubunt desktop using apt-get then
[01:38] <lsuactiafner> make 2 ppl leave quick
[01:38] <lsuactiafner> heh
[01:38] <Linoobux> hey I was thinking of downloading ubuntu for the first time, can I install it from the live cd iso?
[01:38] <Linoobux> or just the install iso
[01:39] <josh43> Linoobux, Just the install
[01:39] <Razor-X> ethan-allison: ``sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop''
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> Linoobux : just install iso
[01:39] <CapnCook> ethan-allison did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:39] <[A] lex_Oz> someone told me to go to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ for the dvd iso, is this the release version?
[01:39] <ethan-allison> CapnCook: no
[01:39] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: you do know i'm running more than one program in my screenshot? :P
[01:39] <Linoobux> thanks a lot
[01:39] <CapnCook> give that a try
[01:39] <Blair> would someone like to confirm that the .iso is really just a scripted version of an over-the-network installation? because when it gets to "Iinstalling the base system" it says "retrieving" and complains about "couldn't download" when it cacks
[01:39] <[A] lex_Oz> it's the only mirror i can find it on
[01:39] <thenuke> http://80.81.189.232/d//00/60/43/73/19493415.jpg  "sweet wiener"
[01:39] <pipoun> [hoary to breezy]  heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp folks I have a problem of dependecies with openoffice.org2-help-en-us
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> Razor-X : well, i minimised mine to shwo the background (:
[01:39] <pipoun> I can't fix it with apt-get -f install
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> load average: 1.27, 1.24, 1.19 <-- shows how much i'm running
[01:40] <thudfoo> Did ubuntu version 5.10 release today?
[01:40] <crimsun> Blair: if you don't want it to try network install, then make sure it doesn't find a network connection during the prob
[01:40] <josh43> thudfoo, Yes
[01:40] <crimsun> e
[01:40] <john__> HEY GUYS GET OFF THE REPOS!
[01:40] <john__> you mongers
[01:40] <guru54> lol
[01:40] <[A] lex_Oz> hahah
[01:40] <reiki> I hope this ain't TOO dumb a question... I know the servers are slow, but if I start this upgrade (via apt), is there any reason I wouldn't be able to continue to use my system while it's downloading? I'd probably stop doing anything when it's about ready to actually install stuff
[01:40] <crimsun> john__: hey, use a mirror ;-)
[01:40] <bubu> I finally got xmms working, but the music it playes is really loud. Cant controll sound level with program or in sound control. Whats that? Help!
[01:40] <thudfoo> thanx, josh43
[01:40] <guru54> im guessing the servers are still being killed?
[01:40] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: I ran into that last night.  Just keep trying the apt-get -f install.  It'll fail a *bunch* of times and then it will just go on.
[01:41] <josh43> guru54, Very much so
[01:41] <john__> crimsun, such as?
[01:41] <bimberi> reiki: no, just keep working :)
[01:41] <Razor-X> reiki: how good are you with reiki? :P, and the wait is 6 hours, or so
[01:41] <crimsun> john__: topic?
[01:41] <pipoun> ScatterBrain you sure? that's so strange?
[01:41] <guru54> i doubt theres a use for me to start trying to get some apps
[01:41] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: I have no background
[01:41] <Jaivaz> I'm having a problem with my splash screen
[01:41] <Xyc0> Anyone have a torrent for 5.10?
[01:41] <lsuactiafner> bubu : run alsamixer
[01:41] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: the background of ratpoison is the background for my dm
[01:41] <bubu> ok
[01:41] <reiki> Razor-X: I am a Master/Teacher and 6 hours don't sound terrible if I start it and go to bed :)
[01:41] <Jaivaz> I set up the image I want yet it doesn't show up
[01:41] <CapnCook> guru54 i've been downloading the k7 kernel for over an hour now
[01:41] <Jaivaz> It only shows the default debian one
[01:41] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: I thought so too, but that's what happened when I went from hoary --> breezy last night.
[01:41] <Razor-X> reiki: o_O wow, would you try and teach me?
[01:41] <lsuactiafner> Razor-X : animated backgronud is nice, sometimes i run ghost in the shell 2 or fight club as the background
[01:41] <john__> crimsun, sweet
[01:42] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: :P
[01:42] <CapnCook> should've been done in about 1 minute or less lol
[01:42] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: Everything is working fine today....
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> something to look at
[01:42] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: you Nerd!
[01:42] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: like I said, no sugar for me :P
[01:42] <reiki> Razor-X: sure... c'mon over
[01:42] <reiki> :)
[01:42] <Xyc0> Why did they take out the terminal option when you click on desktop?
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> heh
[01:42] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: but, that's why my Konsole background is Vash
[01:42] <pipoun> ScatterBrain I've tryed it a dozen time, this doesn't work :'(
[01:42] <Razor-X> reiki: meh
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> Fri Oct 14 01:42:00 SAST 2005
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> night ppl
[01:42] <ScatterBrain> Xyc0: I don't know but it suxors!
[01:42] <Xyc0> ScatterBrain: I hear you on that one
[01:43] <Razor-X> Thu Oct 13 16:42:47 2005, that's what C-t a gives me :P
[01:43] <maynoth> ok I got the root password changed but it wont let me log on
[01:43] <maynoth> what do I do next
[01:43] <thirso> I'm trying to install Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT Ethernet Network Adapter's driver(wasnt detected) but i have to do a 'make all' to install it and im getting this error: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png
[01:43] <Blair> IT DIDN'T CREATE /TARGET/VAR/LOG/BOOTSTRAP.LOG
[01:43] <Xyc0> Anyone have a torrent for 5.10, downloads are too slow from the servers
[01:43] <CapnCook> go to a terminal and su password
[01:43] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: You are going from hoary to breezy, right?
[01:43] <bubu> lsuactiafner. Alsamixers PCM doesnt affect the level at all :(
[01:43] <pipoun> rigth
[01:43] <Blair> so why did it tell me to look there for the log?
[01:44] <maynoth> i did change the password but it says it cannot log in from this screen
[01:44] <Blair> does anyone know why this release was marked as "stable"?
[01:44] <CapnCook> to change the gnome logon you have to configure it on the log on screen but I don't remember where
[01:44] <Razor-X> reiki: I would wait if I were you (i'm waiting) only to let the maintainers and developers work out the initial bugs
[01:44] <pipoun> ScatterBrain: right
[01:44] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: Instead of the apt-get -f install, try apt-get -f dist-upgrade.
[01:44] <Razor-X> reiki: and to wait for the line to thin, a bit
[01:44] <maynoth> haha i was thinking the same thing blair
[01:44] <pipoun> okaye
[01:44] <mustard5> maynot, hit CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to login prompt and CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to gnome
[01:44] <stimpie> maynoth, you cant login as root
[01:44] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: It took about 10 or 12 times, but it finally got passed it.
[01:44] <mustard5> maynoth, hit CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to login prompt and CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to gnome
[01:44] <CapnCook> yes you can
[01:44] <vmx> how can i change the "LANGUAGE" env variable? can i use a tool (i don't want to break anything if i would do it manually)
[01:44] <maynoth> thanks
[01:44] <CapnCook> your welcome
[01:44] <Blair> crap...
[01:44] <Razor-X> maynoth: you _can_ login as root, but again, it needs more console messing
[01:44] <Blair> now the shell crashed
[01:44] <hajiki> thirso, did you do 'apt-get install build-essential' ?
[01:45] <Razor-X> maynoth: in Linux, advanced tasks really need the console, it comes part and parcel
[01:45] <Blair> i think it took a ctrl-C as a quit signal
[01:45] <CapnCook> he's already done that Razor-X
[01:45] <bimberi> maynoth: root logon from GDM is disabled (because it's not good security), you can enable it if you must - System -> Admin -> Login Screen Setup, Security tab
[01:45] <josh43> cafuego, Quick question, since you mentioned it.. is it a noticable speed difference on things like compile or encoding on 64bit vs 32? like 40% or more?
[01:45] <Razor-X> maynoth: the simple thing is: make a desktop shortcut that executes: ``gksu nautilus'' and it should run nautilus in root mode
[01:45] <Razor-X> maynoth: that way, you can destroy whatever you want to destroy
[01:45] <thirso> hajiki: nope, do i have to be connect to get it thru apt?
[01:45] <mustard5> maynoth, what do you need root access for?
[01:45] <nalioth> josh43: it's all about clock cycles
[01:46] <bubu> lsuactiafner, aslamixer dont help me
[01:46] <hajiki> thirso, probably, unless you have the cd handy
[01:46] <Blair> hmmm
[01:46] <Blair> chicken and egg problem
[01:46] <thirso> hajiki: yeah i do
[01:46] <Blair> i want to run md5sum on /cdrom...
[01:46] <thirso> hajiki: man if that works ill love you forever ive been posting this everywhere :~
[01:46] <Blair> but it won't treat the iso as a iso when it's burned to a cd
[01:46] <zburns> Can't load Ubuntu (IDE-CD Rom) when Debian 3.1r0a used to run on this machine
[01:46] <hajiki> thirso, make sure your network repositorys are off, and it should try to use the cd instead
[01:47] <Xyc0> Anyone know of a torrent site that had Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:47] <Xyc0> has*
[01:47] <yoink_> err...no text is showing up in my firefox after dist-upgrade...sorry but w/o a browser i cant try to solve this on my own...
[01:47] <dooglus> Blair: use dd to reads the iso as an iso...
[01:47] <hajiki> Xyc0, i used the one on slashdot and it downloaded in about 30 minutes
[01:47] <zburns> Breezy - is there a way to fix this?
[01:47] <thirso> hajiki: i have no internet on linux, im on windows right now, i need the adapter for my dsl :/
[01:47] <Blair> doog...refresh me on the options
[01:47] <josh43> thirso, Choke your isp
[01:47] <hajiki> thirso, oh just run that command then, it should work
[01:47] <Xyc0> hajiki: awsome thanks
[01:47] <dooglus> Blair: just as soon as I've refreshed myself...  :)
[01:47] <Blair> dd if=/cdrom | md5sum ??
[01:47] <josh43> thirso, USB adsl/network adapters aree a horrible horrible thing
[01:48] <thirso> my isp support doesnt even know what ping is
[01:48] <josh43> thirso, What isp? sbc?
[01:48] <dooglus> Blair: I think that's in.  except it's /dev/cdrom or something like that isn't it?
[01:48] <hajiki> my isp tells me they dont support linux
[01:48] <hajiki> they are retarded
[01:48] <stimpie> Xyc0, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[01:48] <thirso> josh43: nah im from brazil
[01:48] <mustard5> hajiki, most ISP's I know say that
[01:48] <dooglus> hajiki: my ISP told me it was impossible to use their service with Linux.  so I did it anyway.
[01:48] <josh43> thirso, Lol.. I knew it was going to be something like that as soon as I assumed it was US adsl ;)
[01:49] <pipoun> ScatterBrain: this doesn't work I have the same error
[01:49] <Blair> k doog...that's the command (at least it seems right testing it on a small file)
[01:49] <thirso> josh43: heh
[01:49] <hajiki> dooglus, mine said i wasnt allowed to use it on anything other than Mac OS X, or Windows
[01:49] <zcat[1] > 'unsupported' just means they won't help you. If your DSL uses ordinary ethernet and DHCP, you can just plug in any linux distro and it'll work with no configuration at all...
[01:50] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: Just keep repeating it.  I promise it'll make it through.
[01:50] <dooglus> hajiki: probably because Linux is "just a hacking tool".  I mean, if you're not a hacker then why aren't you satisfied with Windows?
[01:50] <hajiki> lol
[01:50] <ScatterBrain> pipoun: Or it did for me.
[01:50] <Blair> but it won't work on /cdrom
[01:50] <dooglus> Blair: /dev/cdrom
[01:50] <Blair> looks like it checksums the directory
[01:50] <Blair> ah
[01:50] <Blair> just a sec
[01:50] <Blair> duh
[01:50] <Greger> dooglus, what is it to like with windows?
[01:50] <pipoun> ScatterBrain luky you are, ut thanks for the help
[01:50] <hajiki> bleh im a sysadmin i dont need no support, i am the support
[01:50] <Blair> nope
[01:50] <dooglus> dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
[01:50] <Blair> "No such file or directory"
[01:51] <Greger> linux is free and its getting to being a great desktop OS as well
[01:51] <dooglus> Greger: parse error, line 1
[01:51] <thirso> aight im gonna try that or ill have to get another ethernet card :( thanks hajiki
[01:51] <dooglus> Blair: you don't have /dev/cdrom?
[01:51] <Razor-X> wow, the majority if othe ratpoison users are Dvorak, it seems :P
[01:51] <hajiki> thirso, that should work, it seems lke your missing the kernel sources. that command should install them for you
[01:51] <Nomikos> was upgrading via apt-get but lost network, so for a lot of packages it shows timeout errors now.. will it fetch those later?
[01:51] <Blair> ah... /dev/cdrom/cdrom0
[01:51] <thirso> hajiki: i had to apt-get install make , does that help to get to a conclusion?
[01:52] <dooglus> ok...  on my system /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/hdc.
[01:52] <hajiki> thirso, thats part of what build-essential does
[01:52] <Blair> now it's cooking
[01:52] <Blair> whirrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
[01:52] <dooglus> Nomikos: it will carry on from where it got to, don't worry.
[01:52] <thirso> aight bbl
[01:52] <hajiki> thirso, but your still missing the rest of the good stuff :)
[01:52] <da_bon_bon> why does upgradenotes tell us to remove and reinstall firefox ? it never conflicted for me !
[01:52] <yoink_> err...no text is showing up in my firefox after dist-upgrade...sorry but w/o a browser i cant try to solve this on my own...
[01:52] <Blair> and you wonder how a botch like windoze could ever have supplanted an EASY TO USE system like unix...
[01:52] <quam> it doesnt. it says remove one if you have both installed
[01:53] <dooglus> Nomikos: try using "ftp://" instead of "http://" in your /etc/apt/sources.list - that can help if the web server is overloaded
[01:53] <Nomikos> dooglus: is was my router that went down :-.
[01:53] <Nomikos> *ut
[01:53] <Nomikos> *it (curses)
[01:53] <Blair> okay...so here's the big question:   --- once i've calculated the checksum of the disk iso, where is the checksum stored for me to compare it to see if it's right?
[01:53] <dooglus> Blair: how would you find the md5sum of a CD in Windows?  I wouldn't know how to, other than using Nero or something to read it to disk, then using cygwin's md5sum.exe or some such.
[01:54] <Blair> cygwin's dd should work the same
[01:54] <mirak> hello
[01:54] <Nomikos> dooglus: but filed for future reference :)
[01:54] <anto9us> yoink_: I had that problem with preview version, a reboot actually sorted it for me
[01:54] <redtech> does anyone have or have access to a HP Pavilion n5425 laptop?
[01:54] <Blair> hmm...don't think it worked right
[01:54] <mirak> I have a problem with the vnc clients vncviewer
[01:54] <eolo> i guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a friend's computer but the ethernet is not recognized by the install process BUT it'an rtl8139 card!!! Someone got ideas?? (ubuntu 5.10 on asus l1400 (l1000 series))
[01:54] <Blair> "dd: cdrom0: Input/output error"
[01:54] <mirak> I can scrool the window
[01:54] <mirak> but only from top to bottom
[01:54] <dooglus> Blair: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS
[01:54] <yoink_> anto9us, k, thanks, well i already started reinstalling firefox, but ill reboot after
[01:54] <mirak> it doesn't work the other way around
[01:54] <mirak> so I am stcuk
[01:54] <dooglus> Blair: you can find the correct sums there
[01:54] <mirak> stuck
[01:55] <[A] lex_Oz> damn i have an rtl8139 card, that means i will have problems too? :p
[01:55] <Blair> yeah...k...checking...not even close
[01:55] <dooglus> Blair: sounds like a bad burn to me.  try another...
[01:55] <Blair> looks like the disk is bad or something
[01:55] <guru54> what avg speed are you guys getting from the servers?
[01:55] <Blair> yarp
[01:55] <dooglus> md5sums are never close- they're right or miles off...
[01:55] <Blair> yet another go-round...this time i'll turn down the burn speed from 40X to 24X or something
[01:55] <D1> hows breezy going for ya'll?
[01:55] <Kaiser> guru54: i downloaded it with 120kb/s from the german server
[01:55] <D1> I just got it into my laptop.
[01:55] <D1> runs greeeeeeeeaaaaaaat!
[01:56] <Blair> miles...all i had to do was check the first digit...just like last night's powerball... :D
[01:56] <oddietaco> i am trying to upgrade to breezy.  i am following the directions in the wiki.  when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i am told 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.  what's going on?
[01:56] <Blair> back in 30
[01:56] <dooglus> guru54: I was getting arounf 250kb/s off the i386 install torrent
[01:56] <guru54> updates and apps Kaiser
[01:56] <john__> Bit torrent all the way
[01:56] <dooglus> guru54: with around a 250b/s upload - a ratio of 1000:1 :)
[01:56] <guru54> i got it at 300kbs already off the "rest of the world" server :p
[01:56] <Kaiser> ah.. ok
[01:57] <Kvark> is there any way to navigate the home dir in the same way as the programs menu?
[01:57] <bimberi> oddietaco: did you update hoary to breezy in sources.list and then sudo apt-get update?
[01:57] <[A] lex_Oz> any clue about the dvd iso?
[01:57] <Xyc0> gah, i can't get the torrent file cause its on the same server as the damned ISOs
[01:57] <anto9us> Kvark: ctrl-L
[01:57] <bimberi> [A] lex_Oz: i reckon that address you've found is correct
[01:57] <dooglus> Xyc0: you can get it from a less busy server
[01:58] <dooglus> Xyc0: try http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent for instance
[01:58] <VR^> can anyone tell me how i can start another windowmanager (icewm) without rebooting? i did replace --icewm, but i get the message, "
[01:58] <Kvark> anto9us, in nautilus i guess?
[01:58] <VR^> Another window manager already running, exiting...
[01:58] <[A] lex_Oz> bimberi then why isn't it accessible through the official site?
[01:58] <oddietaco> bimberi:  yeah.  i copied the stuff in the apt-get section into my /etc/apt/sources.list.  in fact, apt-get spits out this during the update ....  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## distribution.
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## repository.
[01:58] <[A] lex_Oz> no link to this page
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[01:58] <krisi> can someone help me get my touchpad working?
[01:58] <anto9us> Kvark: yes, will bring up address bar which will predict as you type
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[01:58] <Xyc0> dooglus: Iwhy thank you, that one worked
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[01:58] <oddietaco> ## team.
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[01:58] <dooglus> VR^: log out, and chose a different 'session' from the login screen.  no need to reboot
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[01:58] <hajiki> STOP!
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[01:58] <oddietaco> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[01:58] <da_bon_bon> oddietaco: nooo...
[01:58] <concept10> cafuego, you paying attention?
[01:58] <oddietaco> oops.
[01:59] <tristanmike> oddietaco, you can't paste in here
[01:59] <btdown> d00d dont be pastin in here
[01:59] <dooglus> yum!
[01:59] <Kvark> what i meant was to click an icon on the gnome panel, then a list of everything in the home dir drops down
[01:59] <tristanmike> oddietaco, read /topic
[01:59] <oddietaco> certainly didn't mean to do that guys.  sorry about that
[01:59] <Kvark> and when you move your mouse over one of the dirs in that list a list of everything in that dir drops down next to the first list
[01:59] <[N] ame> oddietaco, dude you cant post in like that
[01:59] <VR^> dooglus: yeah but i thought i could do it without a log-out or reboot
[01:59] <Kvark> like the programs menu on the panel
[01:59] <gabriel> =PP
[01:59] <bimberi> [A] lex_Oz: not sure why, but it is on *.ubuntu.com, and i saw someone mention it on #ubuntu-devel last night (oz time)
[02:00] <Xyc0> Yey!
[02:00] <[A] lex_Oz> oh, ok bimberi tnx :)
[02:00] <dooglus> VR^: I know some window managers offer a list of a few other window managers on their menus, but it seems to be very ad-hoc...  I don't know if it's possible in general to switch.
[02:00] <bimberi> [A] lex_Oz: yw :)
[02:00] <VR^> dooglus: k, thanks much
[02:00] <Xyc0> Now i need to tear apart the "registry" to put Terminal back on the desktop right click menu
[02:00] <sudonim> My xserver does not start after the upgrading from hoary. Is there a quick fix to get the binary nvidia drivers working again?
[02:00] <thesilentkiller> in thunderbird, different accounts can be handled separetely (with different inboxes, sent, trash, etc). can the same effect be produced in evolution?
[02:00] <dooglus> VR^: you could try "pkill metacity; twm &" in a shell - but you might find everything falls apart...
[02:00] <Jubei> hey all
[02:01] <josh43> VR^: You can log into another window manager without a reboot, but it means you are running both simultaneously
[02:01] <ethan-allison> didn't do anything
[02:01] <Jubei> anyone got nvidia working on 5.10
[02:01] <anto9us> Kvark: there may be a panel applet that does that, I don't know though
[02:01] <mustard5> Jubei, yeah
[02:01] <sudonim> Jubei: I am asking the same question.
[02:01] <josh43> sudonim, Replace xorg.conf with a backup?
[02:02] <Jubei> mustad5 can you give a hand?
[02:02] <bimberi> oddietaco: well, that sources.list looks ok :P
[02:02] <WebLOCH> Hello all
[02:02] <Blair> well, now i know why installation crapped out...my iso was only 160 MB long!
[02:02] <mustard5> Jubei, I followed instructions, so I am not much help
[02:02] <Jubei> url?
[02:02] <Blair> damned firefox downloader give no indication that a download fails
[02:03] <[A] lex_Oz> lol
[02:03] <Xyc0> What is the name of the package that puts Terminal back on the right-click on desktop menu?
[02:03] <WebLOCH> Anyone up for giving me some help with nvidia-glx ?
[02:03] <mustard5> !tell Jubei about nvidia
[02:03] <Blair> i'm gonna go download until i puke or it does
[02:03] <WebLOCH> !tell me about nvidia
[02:03] <sudonim> WebLOCH: Seems there are a bunch of us having problems. Did you upgrade or clean install?
[02:03] <WebLOCH> sudonim used a clean install
[02:04] <sudonim> !tell me about nvidia
[02:04] <mustard5> Jubei, there was a thread on the forum too, about installing the nvidia binary drivers
[02:04] <irvin> i installed breezy since preview release and i constantly keep it updated. my sources.list still has the deb cdrom line, is it safe to comment it out?
[02:04] <WebLOCH> sudonim, thats just the binary guide, i followed it through to make sure, but it hasnt solved anything
[02:04] <bimberi> Xyc0: nautilus-open-terminal
[02:04] <nalioth> irvin: yes it is
[02:04] <Xyc0> bimberi: awsome thanks
[02:04] <maynoth> does anyone know an easy way to delete locked (root) folders?
[02:04] <sudonim> yeah. I had it working in hoary, upgraded and it is broken
[02:04] <maynoth> or an easy way to create a root account
[02:04] <bimberi> Xyc0: yw :)
[02:04] <maynoth> I cannot find anything in the forums
[02:05] <SupIAmMike> what happened to "root terminal"
[02:05] <WebLOCH> Any takers?
[02:05] <Xyc0> Its too late in the game for Gnome to take terminal out
[02:05] <maynoth> seems a little silly just to reformat to delete a few locked folders
[02:06] <sudonim> maynoth: "sudo rm" does not work
[02:06] <sudonim> ?
[02:06] <maynoth> i dunno I dont use CLI
[02:06] <sudonim> maynoth: open up a terminal, or use the run command and type "sudo nautilus"
[02:06] <ethan-allison> Razor-X: didn't work
[02:07] <sudonim> then you wont have to
[02:07] <mustard5> Jubei, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924&highlight=nvidia+binary+install
[02:07] <jcmcbeth> How do you make the page number in a footer not appear on the first page in openofficer writer?
[02:07] <flodine> a guys help breezy ? w32codecs not in repositories
[02:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell flodine about w32codecs
[02:07] <ethan-allison> flodine: http://mplayerhq.hu
[02:07] <stpere> hmm.. I changed my source.list file to update to breezy, did apt-get update, then changed my mind and changed sources.list again to return to hoary
[02:08] <stpere> now it still wants to update a lot of package when I want to install a simple package (gdesklet)
[02:08] <ethan-allison> ok so GTK isn't working and PNG images aren't working
[02:08] <ethan-allison> any ideas guys?
[02:08] <stpere> is there a quick way to "reset" the apt db?
[02:08] <krisi> how can i get my touchpad working? it works in knoppix
[02:08] <bimberi> stpere: did you redo apt-get update
[02:08] <ethan-allison> i tried apt-get --reinstall insall ubuntu-desktop
[02:08] <stpere> bimberi, yes
[02:08] <bimberi> stpere: after changing back to hoary?
[02:08] <ethan-allison> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[02:09] <bimberi> stpere: ah
[02:09] <jxpx> how can i see the version of my linux?
[02:09] <hajiki> jxpx, uname -a
[02:09] <IcemanV9> jxpx: uname -r
[02:09] <mustard5> Jubei, I'm in my second Breezy installation installing nvdia-glx now, not binary drivers
[02:09] <bimberi> jxpx: kernel version? uname -r, ubuntu version? lsb_release -a
[02:09] <jxpx> ok thanks
[02:10] <maynoth> thanks sudonin that actually worked
[02:10] <ethan-allison> nothing is doing anything beneficial
[02:10] <sudonim> maynoth: No problem
[02:10] <maynoth> do you know how to set up windows drives to automount each time you log on
[02:11] <maynoth> they disapear each time I reboot
[02:11] <Rev-Marc> is there a help channel for Bittorent?
[02:11] <flodine> are there repositories i should use that are new
[02:11] <sudonim> maynoth: well, it requires you to add an entry into the fstab
[02:11] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to run a .tar.bz2 file ?
[02:11] <sudonim> maynoth /etc/fstab
[02:11] <maynoth> sounds painful
[02:11] <k_ubuntu> hi, sig!
[02:11] <maynoth> maybe I should just wait for xandros4
[02:11] <sudonim> maynoth: not too bad. Let me see if I can find the ubuntu docs on it
[02:11] <bimberi> maynoth: /msg ubotu windowsdrives  (needs cli though)
[02:12] <Rev-Marc> how do I get a list of the channels?
[02:12] <k_ubuntu> sif: I read some logs about the ubuntu kernel panic
[02:12] <k_ubuntu> sig: I read some logs about the ubuntu kernel panic
[02:12] <maynoth> ahh... I dunno... I will wait I think maybe another year or two...  maybe then the cli wont be necessary
[02:12] <bimberi> B_166-ER-X: you can extract it with tar -xvjf <file>
[02:12] <anto9us> maynoth: in Breezy it's System | Administration | Disks
[02:12] <maynoth> and autopackage will ahve time to have evolved more
[02:12] <n0odl3> what is cntrl break?
[02:12] <btdown> d00d cli is the best part of an OS
[02:13] <B_166-ER-X> thnx
[02:13] <k_ubuntu> sig: you use the ecs k7s5a? or am I wrong?
[02:13] <n0odl3> what is control break?
[02:13] <maynoth> yeah I did the sys admin disks but its a pain to redo it everytime you reboot
[02:13] <bimberi> maynoth: i thought it was you, what happened to your peerage (Lord_)?
[02:13] <ivanoden> hix
[02:13] <sudonim> maynoth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:14] <sudonim> that may be a better link for you
[02:14] <IcemanV9> maynoth: did you read what ubotu just send you about windowsdrives?? it's easy .. really.
[02:14] <ivanoden> i have problems with apt-get
[02:14] <ivanoden> GPGv
[02:14] <Rev-Marc> how do I get a list of the channels?
[02:14] <sorush20> my sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart hangs I don't know why?
[02:14] <ivanoden> how to add new signature?
[02:14] <k_ubuntu> sig: are you here?
[02:14] <sudonim> IcemanV9: ubotu should be updated with the link I posted
[02:15] <anto9us> Rev-Marc: /msg chanserv list <pattern>
[02:15] <keffynd> mstoopid question no#1: is there a way to mount Ext3 in Windows and NTFS (writeable) in Ubuntu?
[02:15] <josh43> ok, one more question about a64 vs 32: If I define a home partition, can I just boot between the 2 and keep the same setting s for things like gnome layout?
[02:16] <sorush20> kl
[02:16] <Rev-Marc> anto9us thank you very much,
[02:16] <satafterh> where are the dvd versions kept
[02:16] <IcemanV9> sudonim: same info, but two different places :)
[02:16] <Sonderblade> which package do i need to download to get the Terminal font?
[02:16] <sudonim> yeah. I thought the wiki was a little clearer - but thats just me
[02:17] <Xenthro> Can anybody give me the quick route to installing ATI drivers?
[02:17] <hajiki> !ati
[02:17] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:17] <kbrooks> hey
[02:17] <kbrooks> just wanted to inform yall
[02:17] <IcemanV9> maynoth: does it (info on windows drive) help ya? don't give up. :)
[02:17] <josh43> Xenthro, listen to ubotu
[02:17] <bimberi> ubotu no windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:17] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[02:17] <kbrooks> pida  (a ide) is in ubuntu
[02:18] <chiddy> i see the new breezy sources.list has the backports added already, but what do we use for breezy-extras now... or is it still the same as before?
[02:18] <maynoth> thats way to complicated just to mount windows drives....  I will wait till dapper
[02:18] <stpere> how can I use the /var/backups/dpkg* files?
[02:18] <Xenthro> thank you!!
[02:18] <stpere> can I use them to go back to yesterday's state?
[02:18] <dooglus> josh43: sure, why not?
[02:18] <josh43> maynoth, Just run linneighborhood
[02:18] <maynoth> maybe in a year or two... I really just need to give up on linux until autopackage evolves more anywho
[02:18] <josh43> dooglus, Is that to my "dual linux boot" question?
[02:19] <olivas> i just installed ubuntu and my keyboard doesn't work
[02:19] <olivas> has anyone had problems like this?
[02:19] <dooglus> josh43: to your "can I share a /home partition between two breezy's", yes
[02:19] <Razor-X> olivas: USB or PS/2 keyboard?
[02:19] <Razor-X> or other?
[02:19] <olivas> it's a laptop
[02:19] <Razor-X> oh, meh
[02:20] <olivas> the one that cam with it
[02:20] <Razor-X> the keyboard itself?
[02:20] <ivanoden> seem the reposite from breezy is worst than hoary
[02:20] <Razor-X> no button works?
[02:20] <olivas> i get garbage when i type
[02:20] <olivas> most keys don't work
[02:20] <ivanoden> apt-get doesn't working well
[02:20] <Khaaaaaan> Has anybody had any luck getting World of Warcraft to work on Breezy??
[02:21] <k_ubuntu> hi, has anyone a ecs k7s5a (pro)? I get kernel panics during setup after first reboot in the local system. Is there any solution?
[02:21] <sudonim> ivanoden: whats the problem?
[02:21] <josh43> dooglus, Perfect, thanks
[02:21] <jrattner1> If ive been connected to ubuntu510 install i386 iso for 1 hour and 30 minutes is it normal to only be getting 3.5 KB/S????
[02:21] <_Temujin> What's the best viewer/plugin for WMV or ASF files...
[02:21] <ivanoden> sudonim, i have update
[02:21] <ivanoden> but it only success after several times
[02:21] <nalioth> jrattner1: how many times do we have to tell you? there are thousands of people hitting the servers
[02:21] <Xenthro_> no... I was getting 250 kb/s
[02:21] <elad`> So, how do I upgrade to 5.10?
[02:21] <Khaaaaaan> jrattner1, yea on the 1st day of release... the servers are getting hammered
[02:21] <jrattner1> nalioth, i only ask cause i love you
[02:22] <btdown> everyone and their brother is downloading/updating...the mirrors will be slow for a few days
[02:22] <dooglus> ivanoden: try using ftp:// instead of http:// in your sources.list
[02:22] <nalioth> jrattner1: wait a few days for the initial surge to die down
[02:22] <IcemanV9> jrattner1: find a different mirror site
[02:22] <ivanoden> and now i can't install a package like hping2, sudonim
[02:22] <Razor-X> olivas: hmmm, do you use a special keyboard layout?
[02:22] <josh43> Can I log someone out without switching to them? we are both running gnome, and I can just do 'su <user>', but logout doesn't work there
[02:22] <ivanoden> ok, i'll try dooglus
[02:22] <[A] lex_Oz> why dont u use bittorent?
[02:22] <olivas> i never had to before
[02:22] <nalioth> josh43: applications > system tools > new login
[02:22] <elad`> Wax: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:22] <thirso> josh43: gah it didnt work :~
[02:23] <olivas> razor-x, i've been playing with different layouts for ho-hos
[02:23] <olivas> no luck thought
[02:23] <dooglus> josh43: you could kill their processes - it's not very subtle though
[02:23] <olivas> thought
[02:23] <josh43> nalioth: That's how they are logged in, but somthing is choking the cpu, so I want to force them out gracefully withouy switching
[02:23] <Razor-X> olivas: what model laptop is it?
[02:23] <nalioth> josh43: as dooglus points out, kill all their processes
[02:23] <olivas> fujitsu N3010 lifebook
[02:23] <josh43> thirso, What didn't? (bad memory)
[02:23] <Razor-X> olivas: mmmkay
[02:23] <thirso> josh43: my ethernet
[02:24] <josh43> dooglus, No option for a command-line logout as su?
[02:24] <cius> Holy cow guys!  you won't believe what I just got!   what a dream machine...
[02:24] <dooglus> josh43: or run 'top' to see which process is the naughty one, and kill that.  just send it a HUP:  kill -HUP <processid>
[02:24] <elad`> How come Synaptic tells me gnome isn't installed (but some of its dependant packages are), when I'm *using* it?
[02:24] <k_ubuntu> hi, has anyone a ecs k7s5a (pro)? I get kernel panics during setup after first reboot in the local system. Is there any solution? (if you answer, please write my nick, soit gets highlighted in my xchat)
[02:24] <josh43> dooglus: I think that's going to be the best option, thanks
[02:24] <thirso> Trying to install my network adapter's driver: http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot39du.jpg halp halp :~
[02:24] <dooglus> josh43: I'm not clear what you're looking for - are they ssh-ing into your box?  or running GNOME on a different display?
[02:24] <irvin> i get this error on mplayer... New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[02:24] <josh43> thirso, It wasn't me that was helping you with that, sorry
[02:25] <thirso> josh43 yeah i know
[02:25] <josh43> dooglus, Gnome on a differnet display through "new login"
[02:25] <cius>  Pentium 75, 16 megs of ram, a whole 1 gig hard drive, how am I ever going to use all that?!!!
[02:25] <Cosine> hey, how do i access my ntfs partitions in ubuntu?
[02:25] <davidx> lol @ cius
[02:25] <josh43> cius, lol - 640K?? noone's ever going to need more than that ;)
[02:26] <davidx> ubuntu-console :D
[02:26] <cius> its great, I"m gonna install DOOM3 on it and pwn all!
[02:26] <Cosine> i've tried the disk thing under system->administration
[02:26] <Razor-X> olivas: after some quick googling... it seems that it's pretty finicky to get to work with most laptops
[02:26] <Razor-X> olivas: does the Ubuntu live CD work?
[02:26] <ivanoden> dooglus, hihi, ftp work well
[02:27] <ivanoden> thank your advise
[02:27] <Cosine> i can click browse and see it, but using the file browser it tells me i don't have the proper permissions
[02:27] <olivas> razor-x, no i get the same behavior with the live cd
[02:27] <vinicio> does anybody knows how to configure a proxy server or at least give internet service to other computher with ubuntu
[02:27] <vinicio> does anybody knows how to configure a proxy server or at least give internet service to other computher with ubuntu
[02:27] <ethan-allison> how do i open a terminal if i can't right-click on the desktop, ctrl+alt+f[1-6]  aren't working, and there's no panel?
[02:27] <reiki> so in sources I want breezy main restricted AND breezy-security main restricted AND breezy-updates main restricted?  like that?  and comment out anything else in sources.list? (like universe and multiverse ?)
[02:27] <Razor-X> olivas: hmmm... have you tried the Knoppix Live CD?
[02:27] <cius> so, anyone know of anything to actually *use* this beast for?  I'm thinking mp3 player myself.  kinda like an ipod, only 2 cubic feet in side and approximately 20 pounds...almost portable
[02:28] <ethan-allison> cius: make a lightweight distro with it
[02:28] <ThomasM> ethan-allison: What desktop manager?
[02:28] <arcanistherogue> ethan-allison, :D
[02:28] <olivas> razor-x, no i haven't, but i have tried different flavors of linux
[02:28] <starscalling> herrow!
[02:28] <Razor-X> cius: I thought up a design for a very small MP3 player, slightly larger than an iPod
[02:28] <ethan-allison> ThomasM: gnome2
[02:28] <cius> ethan-allison, thats what I'm thinking
[02:28] <hajiki> a
[02:28] <dooglus> ivanoden: glad I could help.  you might want to switch back in a few days.  I generally find http is quicker unless the web server is struggling to keep up
[02:28] <Razor-X> olivas: Knoppix has wonderful default compatibility, i'm asking so that we can get you to use that driver on this laptop
[02:28] <durt> thirso, you might need the restricted modules or the kernel headers or something
[02:28] <ThomasM> cius: Turn it into a closet box that never gets turned off.  Keep processes that you want running all the time on it.
[02:28] <olivas> i'll give it a shot
[02:29] <josh43> cius, The p75?
[02:29] <Razor-X> olivas: if it works on Knoppix, I know it works on Fedora Core 1 (the only success story i've seen, and I don't like Fedora Core much)
[02:29] <cius> josh43, yea
[02:29] <arcanistherogue> Hey, i have a question about an application called "fuhquake".  I installed it via the liflg package, but when i run it the game runs great but without sound.  I get the message "/dev/dsp: Broken pipe" when i run the console command.
[02:29] <Razor-X> cius: try something with uCLinux
[02:29] <ThomasM> ethan-allison: What happened that you lost right-click, panel, and the ability to switch virtual consoles?
[02:29] <arcanistherogue> how do i fix this?
[02:29] <starscalling> though it always seems to take around 45+ minutes to install
[02:29] <cius> Razor-X its an x86 machine
[02:29] <josh43> cius, Network storage, ftp server, fax machine, printer host, router,
[02:29] <olivas> razor-x, yeah i've been using FC3 for a while now, but am looking at different distros now
[02:29] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: try ``killall esd'' and then try starting it again
[02:30] <thirso> durt: translating to a frustrated newbie?
[02:30] <Razor-X> olivas: oh, so FC3 is running?
[02:30] <ThomasM> arcanistherogue: Sounds like you've not configured sound.  Do other programs do sound just fine?
[02:30] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, tried it.
[02:30] <louix> :-D
[02:30] <Razor-X> olivas: can you do an ``lspci -v'' and get the output?
[02:30] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: same thing? hmmmm
[02:30] <arcanistherogue> ThomasM, YEah, this current install of 5.04 i have had for about 1 month or two
[02:30] <dooglus> cius: did you see this?  http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200gb_Instructions  - quite funny...
[02:30] <olivas> razor-x, yeah no real problems.  worked for quiet a while.
[02:30] <cius> josh43, of course, network storage, I could fit like, a bazillion backups of fairy bounce on it...
[02:30] <ThomasM> arcanistherogue: Or another program might have a lock on the device.
[02:30] <cius> :-)
[02:30] <Sionide> soo - breezy is out, does that mean doing a dist-upgrade will be cool and will not result in a bunch of problems? :)
[02:30] <ThomasM> arcanistherogue: But that usually gives you an "access denied" error.
[02:30] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, I even did it with artsd, no dice
[02:30] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: try a ``cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp''
[02:30] <josh43> dooglus, That's hilarious, that thing.. 8 seconds of battery life
[02:31] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X,  what does that do?
[02:31] <ThomasM> Sionide: /topic has a link to the upgrade notes
[02:31] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: at the same time you would start Fuhquake
[02:31] <dooglus> 8 minutes I think josh43
[02:31] <josh43> Sionide, Besides having to do it over 5+ hours ;)
[02:31] <Sionide> ah brilliant
[02:31] <Sionide> ehh
[02:31] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: it puts the contents of /dev/random into /dev/dsp, puts random noise into your sound device
[02:31] <Jubei> anyone has gotten there nvidia on a laptop?
[02:31] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: this'll tell me if /dev/dsp is accessible by some other program
[02:31] <durt> thirso, make sure you have every package the readme says you need
[02:31] <Jubei> they seem to work, but I cant get the correct res
[02:31] <Razor-X> !nvidia
[02:31] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:32] <arcanistherogue> wiat, hold on a second, i googled "fuhquake on linux" and i got a post about the same error i have
[02:32] <Razor-X> !resolution
[02:32] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:32] <Razor-X> :P
[02:32] <starscalling> you know
[02:32] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: oh, meh, I assumed you alread googled
[02:32] <starscalling> nvidia for me was even easier than that
[02:32] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, sorry :p
[02:32] <starscalling> apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <starscalling> and it worked great and perfect after !
[02:32] <cius> dooglus, holy cow thats good
[02:32] <starscalling> well
[02:32] <josh43> cius, You would have to put more drives in it for it to be useful ;P
[02:32] <starscalling> i had to split those lines but yeah
[02:32] <Sionide> and does anyone know the current state of play with regard to backports? as in, are there any decent repos to use?
[02:33] <k_ubuntu> hi, has anyone a ecs k7s5a (pro)? I get kernel panics during setup after first reboot in the local system. Is there any solution? (if you answer, please write my nick, soit gets highlighted in my xchat)
[02:33] <Nomikos> while apt-get is getting all the packages, is it possible to abort it, edit the repository file to also point to a CD and then restart it?
[02:33] <dooglus> cius: yes, isn't it ;)  a 200Gb iPod!
[02:33] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: try to turn off acpi at the boot time
[02:34] <dooglus> Nomikos: yes
[02:34] <cius> josh43, yea, its was funny, went to format the thing using a win98 bootdisk and its popped up said, "do you want to enable large drive functionality?"
[02:34] <ian> i just installed the ubuntu software, i know nothing about linux, i need some-one to walk me thru installing macromedia & acobat reader
[02:34] <dooglus> Nomikos: it will resume
[02:34] <josh43> cius: LoL
[02:34] <Jubei> anyone knows how to "force" screen resolution?
[02:34] <Razor-X> !tell Jubei about resolution
[02:34] <Nomikos> dooglus: this apt-get thing is scarily intelligent..
[02:34] <quam> !tell me about resolution
[02:34] <Sionide> Nomikos, quote of the day!
[02:35] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, should it work, if setup crashed and reboot it with the "defective" install?
[02:35] <Razor-X> Nomikos: :P
[02:35] <Nomikos> yes, you may quote me :-p
[02:35] <Razor-X> by the way...
[02:35] <Razor-X> is it ``apt get'' or ``ay-pee-tee get'' ?
[02:35] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, this I already tried it and die lead to the same kernel panic
[02:35] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: "defective"? did you md5sum the iso & CD?
[02:36] <Razor-X> I always said the latter
[02:36] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, sorry to ask, but the guide just tells me what code to correct the problem with, but not where to put it.  I need to put it somewhere that tells ALSA to give the program full control over the soundcard.  Where would i put this?  like a .conf file for it or something
[02:36] <josh43> Anyone have the ubuntu i386 combo dvd torrent?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: I think most people just say "apt" :P
[02:36] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: can I see the site?
[02:36] <Sionide> josh43, what was that about 5+ hours?
[02:36] <langstaff> How do I install quicktime on my puter so when I click on a link in the browser It either opens player, or playes embedded in browser ?
[02:36] <Dr_Fate> how to I change/set my gcc?
[02:36] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: meh, I hate doing that :P
[02:36] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, http://www.fuhquake.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17604&sid=de16d75295f7e0c6a3733dd03ce1fedc#17604
[02:36] <josh43> Sionide, The repositories are SLAMMED
[02:36] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: thanks
[02:36] <Dr_Fate> CC env=gcc 3.4?
[02:36] <Sionide> josh43, ah i see - might leave it a couple of days then?
[02:37] <durt> langstaff: mozplugger
[02:37] <patf1> hi, i installed the version before breezy (hedgehog i think?) but i never got xorg.conf working (xorg.conf modeline issues, i think). would it make sense to just try upgrading to breezy instead of trying to fix the current install? i.e., have there been any changes to laptop support?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: well, the heresy hunters in #debian will no doubt find you and harass you ;-)
[02:37] <josh43> Sionide, Yeah, or do it @ 4am est
[02:37] <Sionide> heheh
[02:37] <Razor-X> Sionide: I'm doing just that
[02:37] <litage> what's the appeal of ubuntu over other distros such as debian, mandrake, slack, etc?
[02:37] <Sionide> i'm gmt
[02:37] <Sionide> litage, it's better
[02:37] <durt> litage, its easier
[02:37] <anto9us> litage: it's prettier
[02:37] <josh43> litage, It has a benner goal
[02:37] <josh43> benner=better
[02:37] <langstaff> durt, what is mozplugger,. and how do I install it,. are there any dependencies
[02:37] <IcemanV9> litage: it just work "out of the box"
[02:38] <dooglus> anyone familiar with 'valgrind', and how to get it to tell me source file names and line numbers?
[02:38] <Sionide> litage, it'll (probably) work with *all* your hardware with no extra config
[02:38] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, cd is ok, are md5sum probed. kernel panic gets on reboot after first part of setup. then during the second part ist has an kernel panic. Then I rebooted the pc, went to grub, set acpi=no and booted it, although the second part was not finished before.
[02:38] <arcanistherogue> litage, because I said so.
[02:38] <pax> jeez! everyone upgrading at the same time?!
[02:38] <Sionide> Razor-X, you're leaving it a couple of days? *shrug* i think i'll do that too
[02:38] <josh43> pax: YES
[02:38] <arcanistherogue> pax, nah, im not until i get mah see deeze >_<
[02:39] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: acpi=off
[02:39] <Sionide> arcanistherogue, that could be months :s
[02:39] <reiki> so in sources I want breezy main restricted AND breezy-security main restricted AND breezy-updates main restricted?  like that?  and comment out anything else in sources.list? (like universe and multiverse ?)
[02:39] <durt> langstaff, "apt-get install mozplugger" and you might have to configure your browser, so check with google
[02:39] <Sionide> reiki, http://tinyurl.com/dkllj
[02:39] <arcanistherogue> Sionide, I preordered in september, they said they were coming a week after the release ;_;
[02:39] <olivas> razor-x, i didn't see your suggestion to look at 'lspci -v'
[02:39] <arcanistherogue> Well if i dont have em by the 25th ill upgrade
[02:39] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: unfortunately.... that's not really a suggestion
[02:39] <Sionide> arcanistherogue, hhhmm i ordered as soon as the site went live for them
[02:39] <Sionide> ubuntu.wordpress.com -> rocks your world
[02:39] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: I don't think anyone answered the broken pipe guy
[02:40] <olivas> razor-x, right now i only have ubuntu installed.
[02:40] <reiki> Sionide: yeah I'm reading the wiki... it's not real exact. It's basically telling me I only need one line in my sources.list ... that don't seem right but that's why I'm asking
[02:40] <Xyc0> pax: Yes... yes we are
[02:40] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, ok, I'll try it, I am no more sure if I have set the correct option
[02:40] <Razor-X> Sionide: I ``aptitude upgrade''d two days ago, that way, I can last out the repo slam by, at least, having the latest stuf
[02:40] <Sionide> reiki, i'd just do a find/replace hoary->breezy or whatever *shrug*
[02:40] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, but i also found a guide that points to this, saying this solved the broken pipe problem, but that is all it said.
[02:40] <litage> Sionide, durt, anto9us, josh43: those are all relative, opinionated comments; nothing factual
[02:40] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: hmmm, does it say which version?
[02:40] <Sionide> litage, they're all facts though.
[02:40] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, which version of fuhquake, or which kernel?
[02:41] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, thank you in forward, I'll come back if it keeps the same
[02:41] <Sionide> litage, i say try it and see for yourself man - it can't hurt.. get the livecd if you're that bothered :)
[02:41] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: I would hunt out a changelog, and see whether they were fixed, and see if the version in the repos is older
[02:41] <reiki> Sionide: universe and multiverse included? or comment them out for now?
[02:41] <Razor-X> (assuming you got it from the repos)
[02:41] <litage> Sionide: hah no they're not. "a is better than b" is an opinion and dependent on the situation
[02:41] <durt> litage, its all relative, pal; thats the point of preferences
[02:41] <Sionide> reiki, include them i suppose
[02:41] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: ok. :)
[02:41] <reiki> Sionide: ok thanks
[02:41] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, I used the loki installers for linux gamers version, not the repository one
[02:41] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: ahhh
[02:41] <Sionide> litage, try it and see for yourself- form your own opinion
[02:41] <litage> durt: i realize that, but i'm curious as to *why* people think ubuntu is "better", "easier", "prettier"
[02:41] <Shadowpillar> who was the guy who had an ubuntu ppc system?
[02:41] <Shadowpillar> I need help again
[02:41] <anto9us> litage: ask a less open question
[02:41] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, here was the original guide i found it from http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/682/
[02:41] <anthony> hey, i got this printer driver that's in *.gz.sh format, the readme file told me to do "sh filename.gz.sh", afterwards it says "Uncompressing Lexmark Z25-Z35 Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] " so how am i suppose to use it? i.e. how do i print stuff?
[02:41] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: lemme see
[02:41] <Sionide> anto9us, good point
[02:42] <Shadowpillar> ubuntu boots from bootx, then locks up
[02:42] <litage> Sionide: unfortunately,at the moment i don't have the time to test it out
[02:42] <Shadowpillar> and the machine restarts after 10 minutes
[02:42] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X,  it mentions sound cards and giving quake full sound card control in the second to last paragraph
[02:42] <ice_1963> icemanv9 that's a good name :0)
[02:42] <Sionide> litage, so don't - take our word for it and install it!
[02:42] <durt> litage: factually, i have had a much easier time with hardware in ubuntu than in slackware
[02:42] <Sionide> what have you got to lose?
[02:42] <Shadowpillar> Anyone here run ubuntuppc
[02:42] <Sionide> mmm
[02:42] <Nomikos> dooglus: sorry, i try to ask as little as possible but keep coming back.. *how* do i add the cd to that file?
[02:42] <horza> what can i use to browse network like in windows?
[02:42] <litage> Sionide: nothing but time. however, i was just curious as to why people often choose it
[02:43] <Sionide> horza, smb:// in nautilus should do it
[02:43] <litage> durt: thank you. that was a valid, useful response  :)
[02:43] <IcemanV9> :)
[02:43] <ripgut> what do i type to get the lastest kernel
[02:43] <durt> horza, xsmbrowser
[02:43] <bcat> after upgrading from hoary to breezy, i cannot run thunderbird anymore (segmentation fault). this seems unrelated to the new thunderbird deb, since it happens with a version downloaded from mozilla.org too. any hints?
[02:43] <kbrooks> ripgut: why?
[02:43] <bcat> anybody else experiencing this?
[02:43] <ripgut> i dont have it
[02:43] <horza> thanks durt :)
[02:43] <Sionide> litage, there are reasons why it's (in my opinion) the most popular distro
[02:43] <durt> horza, though if you use nautilus, that works too
[02:43] <bcat> i already tried deleting my profile and executing it as a new (fresh) user, no help
[02:44] <IcemanV9> bcat: deinstall & reinstall thunderbird?
[02:44] <horza> durt, il try nautilus first
[02:44] <zburns> My Ubuntu install stops at 88% (Linux ATAPI CD-ROM)...can I fix this?
[02:44] <ripgut> get a new cd
[02:44] <Shadowpillar> Anyone here a Ubuntu Oldworld PPC user?
[02:45] <IcemanV9> zburns: clean your CD
[02:45] <Sionide> zburns, do a burn at a slower speed
[02:45] <Shadowpillar> could be a faulty drive
[02:45] <litage> thanks for the info, gusy
[02:45] <dooglus> Nomikos: now you're asking!  maybe you put "deb       file:/media/iso/ubuntu/              breezy          main restricted" in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Downloading/upgrading currently is slow because of the high traffic - heh...no kiding...this is counting in bits per second for the daily updates...slower than dialup!
[02:45] <litage> s/gusy/guys/
[02:45] <ripgut> can someone help me get the latest kernel
[02:45] <Shadowpillar> sometimes really old drives fuck up as well
[02:45] <zburns> IcemanV9: It's not the CD...All versions of CD stopped at this point (even RC1, etc) debian cd's burned the same way worked
[02:45] <DavidLeeRoth> I have q prob.  I am trying to convert someone to linux, and theywant to know how to boot an iso without a cd burner.... Maybe a bootloader that supports this?
[02:45] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: be less descriptive, please
[02:45] <Nomikos> dooglus: i'll try that, thanks. did you get that online somewhere?
[02:45] <scott> Im a n00b on Ubuntu.... how do I get to the command line?
[02:45] <ThomasM> zburns: These were all burned from the same ISO?
[02:45] <Shadowpillar> zburns: swap out the cdrom drive
[02:46] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: I think I got your problem fixed
[02:46] <Sonderblade> i want to use the font Terminal in gnome programs which is visible when i run xfontsel but i cant select that in gnomes font selector dialog
[02:46] <nalioth> scott: applications > system tools > terminal
[02:46] <tritium> xfelon, can you please turn that off?
[02:46] <Nomikos> dooglus: if so, where and i'll write it down :)
[02:46] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, really?
[02:46] <IcemanV9> zburns: it had happened to me before; i just cleaned the CD and it worked. oh well
[02:46] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: try this ``starscalling: I didn't even ned to do the latter''
[02:46] <scott> nalioth: thanks!!!
[02:46] <bcat> IcemanV9: as I said, happens with a tar.gz downloaded from mozilla.org too
[02:46] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: now try sound again
[02:46] <Rev-Marc> hmmmm
[02:46] <xfelon> ya
[02:46] <xfelon> i will tritium
[02:46] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: errggg
[02:46] <tritium> thank you, xfelon :)
[02:46] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: meh, wrong copy and paste
[02:46] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, wait, what?  I try this where?
[02:46] <dooglus> Nomikos: no.  I got that from my own sources.list, which I got when I installed hoary.  I've since replaced 'hoary' with 'breezy' and commented that CD line out...
[02:46] <DavidLeeRoth> I have q prob.  I am trying to convert someone to linux, and theywant to know how to boot an iso without a cd burner.... Maybe a bootloader that supports this?
[02:46] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, I thought as much :p
[02:46] <zburns> TomasM: yes.  this is a laptop built by ARM (x86 processor inside)
[02:46] <ripgut> can someone help me get the latest kernel
[02:46] <ripgut> can someone help me get the latest kernel
[02:46] <dooglus> Nomikos: hence the '?' at the end of my suggestion...  but it looks like it should work, don't you think?
[02:46] <tritium> every little dB of SNR counts ;)
[02:46] <Nomikos> dooglus: ok, thanks. i'll backup the file next time i change it..
[02:46] <ThomasM> zburns: So, if every CD burned from a single ISO produces a bad CD, what would you suspect?  :)
[02:47] <Nomikos> dooglus: aye it does
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ripgut about repeat
[02:47] <scott> nalioth: there is no terminal option....
[02:47] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: echo "fuhquake-gl.glx 0 0 direct " > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DavidLeeRoth about repeat
[02:47] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: or rather ``echo "fuhquake-gl.glx 0 0 direct " > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss''
[02:47] <starscalling> ??
[02:47] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: do what's in the `` and ''
[02:47] <nalioth> scott: you running gnome?
[02:47] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, I just put it in terminal, and im all set?
[02:47] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: try it out and tell me your results, yeahp
[02:47] <zburns> ThomasM: ISO is fine, just installed Breezy to another laptop using this ISO
[02:47] <xfelon> i think i fixed it
[02:47] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, k, hold on
[02:47] <scott> nalioth: Yes, i have basic setup from ubuntu install CD (downloaded few days ago)
[02:47] <Rev-Marc> I am looking for the new release DVD torrents anyone have a location for them?
[02:48] <ripgut> well i guess noone can help me
[02:48] <tritium> ripgut, which kernel do you want?
[02:48] <nalioth> scott: then applications > system tools > terminal should get you a terminal program linnk
[02:48] <ripgut> uhm, the latest?
[02:48] <kbrooks> ripgut: i want to knowc why you want the latest kernel
[02:48] <zburns> Can't I just skip the ATAPI CD-ROM detection?
[02:48] <tritium> ripgut, the latest in ubuntu is 2.6.12
[02:49] <ripgut> i thought it was 2.6.13?
[02:49] <ssdd65> how do i change the dvd player location in totem?
[02:49] <scott> nalioth: Its not there, but I think i figured it out... I went to applications menu editor and checked "Root terminal"  is that it?
[02:49] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[02:49] <tritium> ripgut, nope
[02:49] <ripgut> why
[02:49] <nalioth> scott: nope. you're looking for regular ol' terminal
[02:49] <scott> nalioth: Grrr, thats not an option wtf
[02:49] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, the echo worked fine, but equake didnt load... hold on, lemme bootup a failsafe terminal, i get best game results with those
[02:49] <durt> ripgut, you'll have to compile it yourself, but you might want to know what you're doing before you do that
[02:50] <ripgut> what do i type to check my kernel version?
[02:50] <tritium> uname -r
[02:50] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: mmmkay
[02:50] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, ill be back in about 5 minutse, but assume if i dont return it worked
[02:50] <TiMiDo> ripgut: uname -r
[02:50] <ssdd65> how do i change the dvd player location in totem?
[02:50] <nalioth> tritium: whats the breezy nautilus terminal thing ?
[02:50] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: ok
[02:50] <bcat> anybody able to run mozilla-thunderbird on breezy?
[02:50] <HiddenWolf> bcat, check
[02:50] <TiMiDo> bcat: what's wrong?
[02:50] <tritium> nalioth, one sec
[02:50] <HiddenWolf> bcat, i'm betting profile problem
[02:50] <_jason> bcat:  yes
[02:50] <flugh> woohoo! yeah! breezy goin on server tonight! :)
[02:50] <ripgut> it says i got 2.6.12-9-386
[02:50] <thirso> Trying to install my network adapter's driver: http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot39du.jpg halp halp :~
[02:50] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[02:50] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[02:50] <Dreamglider> when i do this -> sudo apt-get install firefox i get this error ->
[02:50] <Dreamglider> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:50] <Dreamglider> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:50] <thoreauputic> hmm
[02:50] <scott> nalioth: Found it... Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[02:50] <tritium> nalioth, nautilus-open-terminal
[02:50] <TiMiDo> Dreamglider: do not pasted please
[02:51] <flugh> congrats ubuntu on the release!
[02:51] <ripgut> it says i got 2.6.12-9-386
[02:51] <nalioth> scott: you go!
[02:51] <tritium> nice, thoreauputic :)  Did you teach ubotu that?
[02:51] <TiMiDo> ripgut: so that's the kernel version you got
[02:51] <PennDragon> can someone please help me is there a set root password.
[02:51] <TiMiDo> PennDragon: sudo -s
[02:51] <thoreauputic> tritium: yup :)
[02:51] <scott> nalioth:  Thanks!! Wonder why mines different though?  I have standard setup, havnt changed a thing!!
[02:51] <tritium> no, PennDragon, not by default
[02:51] <tritium> thoreauputic continues to rock
[02:51] <nalioth> scott: idk
[02:51] <PennDragon> TiMiDo: thank you
[02:51] <TiMiDo> np
[02:51] <Dreamglider> ok sorry i'll pastebin it
[02:51] <thechitowncubs> UH H
[02:51] <thechitowncubs> oh
[02:52] <ripgut> so i cant get a newer kernel?
[02:52] <ssdd65> how do i change the dvd player location in totem?
[02:52] <tritium> you can compile your own, ripgut
[02:52] <nalioth> ripgut: this is linux, you can do as you like
[02:52] <TiMiDo> ripgut: apt-cache search kernel-image
[02:52] <Lous> PennDragon, sudo passwd root
[02:52] <Dreamglider> ok i cannot pastebin it becaus i cant open firefox
[02:52] <tritium> he already has the latest, TiMiDo
[02:52] <Eppu> thirso: do you have linux-headers-2.6.12-9 installed?
[02:52] <TiMiDo> oh true,
[02:52] <thechitowncubs> I reinstalled w/ breezy and now windows is spitting this out: Windows coud not start because the following file is missing or corrput: <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll
[02:52] <thoreauputic> TiMiDo: apt-cache search linux-image actually
[02:52] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[02:52] <DavidLeeRoth> i have a question.. using vmware, can i install an OS to an actual partition and actually boot the amchine from that partition?
[02:53] <nalioth> Dreamglider: use galeon epiphany kazehakase konqueror
[02:53] <Dreamglider> i dont have any
[02:53] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, when do you take over for Howard Stern?
[02:53] <zburns> Alt-F3 shows 'trying to load module ide-cd cmd 0x5a timed out'
[02:53] <nalioth> Dreamglider: install one of them (or all )
[02:53] <flugh> woohoo, sirius 1/1/06 man, i'm there
[02:53] <Dreamglider> why not just read that error!
[02:54] <[A] lex_Oz> WinAmp Song: Three Drives on a Vinyl - Greece 2000 (g&m project remix) (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define it!) Length: 00:-1 Bitrate: 96kbps
[02:54] <ripgut> ok what does that do?
[02:54] <[A] lex_Oz> oups sorry
[02:54] <thenuke> thechitowncubs: google would have helped you. http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm
[02:54] <TiMiDo> [A] lex_Oz: please keep it to you're self
[02:54] <anthony> I have installed a driver for my pinter that's in *.gz.sh format, afterwards it tells me "Uncompressing Lexmark Z25-Z35 Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] " What do I do next? How do I print documents?
[02:54] <Dreamglider> when i do sudo apt-get install firefox i get this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:54] <[A] lex_Oz> my mistake sorry guys
[02:54] <TiMiDo> Dreamglider: killed you'r apt pid
[02:54] <TiMiDo> it's in use
[02:54] <nalioth> Dreamglider: close all your apt instances
[02:54] <bcat> thanks all. i reinstalled mozilla-thunderbird again and now it works
[02:55] <Eppu> DavidLeeRoth: It's theoretically possible, but you will probably run into many problems.
[02:55] <Dreamglider> and  E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:55] <ripgut> i want the 2.6.13.4.2 kernel,
[02:55] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, you are a genius
[02:55] <Dreamglider> i only have one terminal open!
[02:55] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: :P
[02:55] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, Worked flawlessly.
[02:55] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: heh, glad that it worked
[02:55] <nalioth> Dreamglider: in your terminal type "ps aux|drep apt-get"
[02:55] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, many thanks my friend.  Now, back to quake 1 :D
[02:55] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: close syanptic or whatever other apt instance is running
[02:55] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: the best of the lot, definitely
[02:55] <TiMiDo> IcemanV9: we don't care about you're music
[02:55] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, actually, when the linux binaries for quake 4 i can have all the quakes on my linux box now
[02:56] <Razor-X> TiMiDo: some people do, with their annoying mIRC music plugins :P
[02:56] <arcanistherogue> Razor-X, good day (b^_^)b
[02:56] <durt> anthony: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4252.html
[02:56] <TiMiDo> lol
[02:56] <Razor-X> arcanistherogue: meh
[02:56] <Dreamglider> thoreauputic, there is none running and nalioth, ps is a unknown command
[02:56] <UBUNTU-user> i need help with x window system in the new 5.10
[02:56] <TiMiDo> UBUNTU-user: what do you need help with?
[02:56] <nalioth> Dreamglider: you have much trouble
[02:56] <Dreamglider> my bad
[02:56] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: if ps is an unknown command you have major troubles
[02:56] <Razor-X> Now Playing: Who the Hell cares, Author: ???
[02:56] <UBUNTU-user> ok, i just installed it on a PC w/ athlon 64 3000+
[02:56] <Dreamglider> i belive you did a typo
[02:56] <TiMiDo> UBUNTU-user: ok
[02:57] <nalioth> Dreamglider: i did "ps aux|grep apt-get"
[02:57] <UBUNTU-user> when the installation is complete, it boots up ok
[02:57] <Razor-X> gah, ratpoison is conflicting with my screen muscle memory
[02:57] <dseomn> kinda important website bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17744 anyone with access to us.releases.ubuntu.com here?
[02:57] <Dreamglider> nalioth, no you did ps aux|drep apt-get
[02:57] <Dreamglider> dreb instead of grep :)
[02:57] <nalioth> Dreamglider: yes i just corrected myself
[02:57] <kvidell> Seveas: May I PM you, it's to do with your repository.
[02:57] <UBUNTU-user> but when startx is executed, the screen shows a bunch of colored lines
[02:58] <TiMiDo> UBUNTU-user: do startx and the program you want to run for example startx fluxbox or /usr/bin/fluxbox
[02:58] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <IcemanV9> TiMiDo: you're DA man! :P
[02:58] <DavidLeeRoth> does anyone here have vmware experience?
[02:58] <TiMiDo> DavidLeeRoth: nope but read
[02:58] <TiMiDo> thoreauputic: that's not an X issue,
[02:58] <kbrooks> DavidLeeRoth: ask
[02:59] <UBUNTU-user> thoreauputic : what does that do exactly , thx
[02:59] <thoreauputic> TiMiDo: coloured lines?
[02:59] <durt> anthony: also, maybe the lxm3200-tweaked driver will work
[02:59] <TiMiDo> thoreauputic: that's twm
[02:59] <tritium> UBUNTU-user, that reconfigures your X server, sort of like it implies
[02:59] <UBUNTU-user> lol
[02:59] <UBUNTU-user> ok
[02:59] <DavidLeeRoth> i have a question regarding vmware. i need to know if it is possible to install an OS to a HDD partition, and boot the machine from that partition from bootup.
[02:59] <corvix> hey ...
[02:59] <corvix> good evening ...
[02:59] <thoreauputic> TiMiDo: I don't follow you - twm isn't installed by default afaik
[02:59] <DavidLeeRoth> kind of like installing ubuntu without a cd burner
[02:59] <corvix> im having trouble with postfix in Breezy ...
[02:59] <scott> On the k3b site it says its for KDE only.... anybody installed it on gnome?
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> yes
[03:00] <corvix> it doesnt do Maildir delivery? ...
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> i got it on my gnome
[03:00] <scott> any problems?
[03:00] <elad`> Why wouldn't windows maximize all the way under KDE? It's really annoying.
[03:00] <anthony> durt: Thanks. I have tried the lxm3200-tweaked driver but it won't print, the paper just comes out blank.
[03:00] <tritium> scott, you can apt-get install it
[03:00] <tty2> hello, the installroutine just tries to install LILO :/ but fails, how can i make i install grub/or use an existing grub?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> i am burning NOW
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:00] <tritium> scott, it'll pull in some libraries it needs as dependencies
[03:01] <scott> tritium:  Im greener than spring grass.... can you explain better or point me to a url?
[03:01] <UBUNTU-user> so, thoreauputic, i should reboot in recovery mode then run that command?
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> scott, synaptic/apt-get will take care of all the dependencies k3b needs just like tritium says
[03:01] <sudonim> Im still having trouble with my nvidia-glx after the upgrade... I changed xorg.conf to use "nv" and that works fine, but if I use "nvidia" it crashes and says "Fatal server error: no screens found". The only thing I change is "nv" to "nvidia"
[03:01] <irvin> what's the recommended ide for python for a beginner?
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> scott, you know how to use synaptic right ?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: no need - just run it in a terminal, then ctr-alt-backspace
[03:01] <tritium> scott, you don't really need to worry about what's going on behind the scenes
[03:01] <Sonderblade> why is gksudo's dialog box shown without a frame?
[03:01] <TiMiDo> sudonim: just used the nv
[03:01] <UBUNTU-user> ok thanks
[03:01] <zukero> /topic #
[03:02] <zukero> sorry
[03:02] <scott> wickedpuppy: No, lol.... ive been on linux for about 30 mintes.... maybe 45 lol
[03:02] <tritium> !tell sudonim about nvidia
[03:02] <Madpilot> scott: k3b works just fine in Gnome
[03:02] <tritium> welcome, scott :)
[03:02] <Grinak> anyone know how to fix a problem with fglrx on breezy that on a logout to GDM it goes to a blank screen and no login. No signal to the display as well. I tried Vesa and that works fine?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> scott, System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[03:02] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: ctrl-alt-backspace would only be if you were in X already, sorry
[03:02] <scott> tritium:  Thanks.... I REALLY like it so far, just kind of lost
[03:02] <Madpilot> scott, start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:02] <scott> wickedpuppy:  Thanks!!!
[03:02] <anthony> durt: Also do you happen to know where are all the extracted file from the *.gz.sh file saved to after I ran the sh command on it?
[03:02] <scott> Madpilot:  Thanks, Ill check that out....
[03:02] <erirlar> hi, can i do a FTP install for 5.10 from the 5.04 disc?
[03:03] <nekostar> yay
[03:03] <TiMiDo> erirlar: yes
[03:03] <FliesLikeABrick> ercueva,  do you have 5.04 installed?
[03:03] <sudonim> tritium: Unfortunately that isnt very helpful. i am fully aware of how to install the drivers... they are just not working after the upgrade
[03:03] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: if you are in  a tty, you can just startx after running it
[03:03] <nekostar> breezy here ;)
[03:03] <TiMiDo> !tell erirlar about breezy
[03:03] <BreezyInCalif> hi room
[03:03] <TiMiDo> hi BreezyInCalif
[03:03] <BreezyInCalif> I asked for some help yesterday or the day before in resizing an ext3 partition. It worked out and I wrote up the procedure I followed. Would that be of any use to the channel?
[03:03] <tritium> sudonim, sounds like you didn't follow the directions, since you edited your xorg.conf by hand
[03:03] <sudonim> tritium: as a last resort
[03:03] <thoreauputic> BreezyInCalif: put up a wiki page :)
[03:03] <BreezyInCalif> IDK if stuff gets stored here for use later if smne needs a hand ... ?
[03:04] <nekostar> !tell nekostar about repositories
[03:04] <scott> I cant install anything while Ubuntu is doing software updates can I?
[03:04] <Madpilot> with ISOs that I got via torrent, do I still need to run a md5sum check or does BT include error correction?
[03:04] <FliesLikeABrick> correct scott
[03:04] <Madpilot> scott: no
[03:04] <thoreauputic> scott: no
[03:04] <Madpilot> ;)
[03:04] <BreezyInCalif> thoreauputic - on the Ubuntu wiki?
[03:04] <nalioth> scott: sure you can
[03:04] <thoreauputic> BreezyInCalif: yup
[03:04] <scott> Wow, cant beat that 3 answers in 2 seconds
[03:04] <BreezyInCalif> OK, will do
[03:04] <scott> uhh oh... we have conflicting answers =(
[03:04] <BreezyInCalif> Thanks folks :)
[03:04] <FliesLikeABrick> scott,  its 3 to1
[03:04] <nalioth> scott: this is not windows. you dont even have to reboot after an update
[03:04] <durt> anthony, nope i dont know, you'll probably have to view the sh file or use "locate" to find out
[03:05] <thoreauputic> nalioth: he can't install anything while apt is running upgrades, can he?
[03:05] <Razor-X> scott: rebooting is a last resort, a very last resort, in linux
[03:05] <Total_assault> hey is there any easy way to install xine on ubuntu 5.10 (x86-64) [maybe through apt] ? -thanks
[03:05] <FliesLikeABrick> no thoreauputic he can't
[03:05] <FliesLikeABrick> not from apt at least
[03:05] <scott> ok, I wasnt talking about rebooting though.
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> .... why ya all talking about reboot ?
[03:05] <FliesLikeABrick> he can still install from source
[03:05] <haselden> Total: apt-get install xine-ui
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> he wasn't asking about it
[03:05] <Total_assault> ty
[03:05] <Webby`> Hey everyone. How is Breezy Badger?
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> he wants to know if he can install while he updates ...
[03:05] <haselden> your welcome
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> Webby`, fine :P
[03:06] <Webby`> :)
[03:06] <Total_assault> i have spent the last hour installing all these libs trying to compile it by hand :(
[03:06] <nalioth> scott: no you can not. i misread your text
[03:06] <scott> ok thanks
[03:06] <scott> that downloads slow =(
[03:06] <BreezyInCalif> Webby` seems fine - how are you?
[03:06] <haselden> Total_assault: you might need to add the universe to your apt sources list
[03:06] <Webby`> I'm good Breezy and you?
[03:06] <BreezyInCalif> :)
[03:06] <_antix> is there a guide for getting pidentd working?
[03:06] <tritium> Total_assault, xine is available
[03:06] <Razor-X> BreezyInCalif: it's pretty breezy here, IMO
[03:06] <BreezyInCalif> I'm good too ... was pulling your leg a bit; I've got Breezy running and it seems fine :)
[03:06] <Total_assault> nano /etc/apt/sources.list rite?
[03:06] <scott> Anybody here know advantages/disadvantages of kde over gnome?
[03:07] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone know how many current leechers and seeds there are for the breezy torrent, just curious?
[03:07] <sorush20> where can I get doom3 for linux ?
[03:07] <sorush20> Love linux
[03:07] <haselden> Total_assault: yes
[03:07] <Webby`> Cool. I haven't tried the final version yet
[03:07] <Razor-X> Total_assault: not just nano, you can look above nano :P
[03:07] <tritium> Total_assault, it's called xine-ui.  apt-cache search <search term> to look for things you want
[03:07] <elad`> Can anyone help me get Babylon (or something similar) to work using, say, wine?
[03:07] <Razor-X> BreezyInCalif: too cold, for my tastes
[03:07] <nalioth> scott: personal preference. you can use any program any time (no matter what desktop it's affiliated with)
[03:07] <Baxter_Kylie> Whoah... so many users! Hi.
[03:07] <scott> oh ok
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> scott, eh ... that is like asking you like republican or democrat
[03:07] <theine> sorush20, ftp.idsfoftware.com I guess
[03:07] <Razor-X> Baxter_Kylie: meh, you get used to it
[03:07] <BreezyInCalif> Actually I noticed a couple of differences from Hoary that I wondered about.
[03:07] <durt> is it worth installing all the kde stuff just to get k3b?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Baxter_Kylie: breezy feeding frenzy :P
[03:08] <Total_assault> is there a database of packages for unbuntu, like there is freshrpms.net for fedora?
[03:08] <FliesLikeABrick> durt,  k3b works on gnome too
[03:08] <ethan-allison> how do i open a terminal if i can't right-click on the desktop, ctrl+alt+f[1-6]  aren't working, and there's no panel?
[03:08] <zcat[1] > BadgerBadgerBadger!!
[03:08] <Baxter_Kylie> I'm on it too... first time linux'er long-time geek.
[03:08] <tritium> Total_assault, packages.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: it used to be more active before I stopped comming because of my onslaught with homework in the beginning of the year
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> ethan-allison, you can't right click ?
[03:08] <zukero> will there be a ubuntuguide.org-like guide for breezy ?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> !tell ethan-allison about openterm
[03:08] <ReleaseX> is azureus not going to be on the breezy repos?
[03:08] <Razor-X> Baxter_Kylie: have fun in the world of Linux, enjoy your stay :)
[03:08] <sorush20> Guys when I joined ubuntu there were only 400 users in July now there anre 643.. growing like a fastidious bacteria..
[03:08] <Total_assault> ok
[03:08] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[03:08] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[03:08] <Entranced> any ideas why when I run synaptic and do reload I get an error saying something about BADSIGN
[03:08] <sorush20> thanks theine
[03:08] <ethan-allison> no, like it's broken right now
[03:08] <BreezyInCalif> There doesn't seem to be a menu selection anywhere for "Run an application" or whatever the wording was ... and for some reason it doesn't like the idea of burning an .iso image that burned fine under Hoary
[03:09] <theine> ethan-allison, does ALT+F2 work?
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> ethan-allison, mouse is broken ... hardware or software ?
[03:09] <kvidell> BreezyInCalif: Alt+F2
[03:09] <UBUNTU-user> thoreauputic: i reconifured and got the following:  fatal error:no screens found
[03:09] <anto9us> Entranced: I'd say it's becasue the servers are busy
[03:09] <BreezyInCalif> kvidell - cool!
[03:09] <BreezyInCalif> Thanks.
[03:09] <Madpilot> zukero: the FAQ and the wiki are your best bets
[03:09] <irvin> Entranced, i have the same problem, i just do apt-get update again
[03:09] <durt> FliesLikeABrick, yes but you have to install the kdelibs and stuff and i was wondering how consuming of resources that is
[03:09] <FliesLikeABrick> its worth it durt
[03:09] <scott> Well, what uses up more resources?  KDE or Gnome?
[03:09] <Baxter_Kylie> Razor-X: Thanks... Currently trying to run an installation as we speak... is there a recommendation for a boot-loader? Do I even need one? It's a single-boot laptop
[03:09] <kvidell> Entranced: Are you... Entranced as in... Digitally Imported?
[03:09] <Razor-X> durt: it takes up disk space only, unless of course you use KDE actively
[03:09] <Razor-X> durt: QT itself (the KDE widget set) isn't very bad at all
[03:09] <durt> ok thank you gues
[03:10] <Madpilot> scott: KDE is a bit more resource-heavy
[03:10] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: oh dear. Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg and say "no" to the framebuffer question
[03:10] <scott> Sorry if im a pain.... im like a little kid with a new toy!!
[03:10] <Entranced> kvidell, not the same person I don't think
[03:10] <ReleaseX> is azureus not going to be on the breezy repos?
[03:10] <thechitowncubs> repaired
[03:10] <thechitowncubs> stupid boot.ini
[03:10] <Razor-X> durt: i'm using quite a few QT apps on ratpoison
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> scott, lol ... there is no use comparing those two ... pls ..
[03:10] <UBUNTU-user> ok
[03:10] <kvidell> okay, hehe. Just checking :)
[03:10] <BreezyInCalif> Also, has anyone tried out encfs?
[03:10] <Madpilot> !tell zukero about docs
[03:10] <Razor-X> Baxter_Kylie: nope, just go ahead with the defaults
[03:10] <flora> does anyone know if breezy has 3d support builtin for ati radeon x300 mobile chipset/
[03:10] <ethan-allison> wickedpuppy: i had to shut down gnome-panel and with it went the desktop files and alt+f\d and clicking on the desktop
[03:10] <flora> ?
[03:10] <Madpilot> !tell zukero about faq
[03:10] <Entranced> kvidell, but I do visit that site quite a bit :)
[03:10] <Razor-X> Baxter_Kylie: if this is a single boot with nothing else on it, it's easier than pie to setup :P
[03:10] <elad`> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.0 not installed - please install first *** - help?
[03:10] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, acpi=off did not work. I somewhere read, hotplug would be the evil one. I did ctrl+c and it went on, but did not know how to go on with setup. Is there an kernel option to run again ubuntu setup with deactivting hotplug?
[03:10] <ethan-allison> elad`: apt-get install glib-dev
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> ethan-allison, funny ... reboot pls ... i never seen that error before
[03:11] <FliesLikeABrick> elad`,  do apt-get install libglib-dev
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> you shut down gnome-panel ? how ?
[03:11] <durt> ugh - after unpacking 105mb of disk will be used... oh well
[03:11] <ethan-allison> kill -9 `pidof gnome-panel` that's how
[03:11] <xfelon> ok
[03:11] <tritium> FliesLikeABrick, elad` it's libglib1.2-dev
[03:11] <FliesLikeABrick> durt,  do you have a hd small enough that it matters?
[03:11] <zcat[1] > Only 105M ? I just downloaded 600M of updates!!
[03:11] <thoreauputic> ethan-allison: pkill gnome-panel would do :)
[03:11] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: not familiar with hotplug (didn't have problem with it) .. let me find something
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> ethan-allison, can you restart x ?
[03:11] <sorush20> I though Doom was availble for free and open source
[03:11] <kvidell> BreezyInCalif: Sadly I've not tried to burn CDs in linux.. ever.. (The linux ISO is usually what I'm burning and from windows, so.. hehe)..
[03:11] <zcat[1] > sorush20: prboom
[03:12] <FliesLikeABrick> and durt  the kdelibs are useful for other stuff, whereas say you were on windows and installed roxio, thats only one program and takes up just as much space
[03:12] <Razor-X> cplay is the one of the few apps I haven't changed around much
[03:12] <bruder> I'm downloading 526MB
[03:12] <darkheart> kill -9 is a bad habit.
[03:12] <tapox> sorush20: Only the Doom engine. The artwork, levels, and sounds are closed.
[03:12] <Baxter_Kylie> Razor-X: *coughs* I'm getting some sort message telling me I have to boot manually with /vmlinuz... is that normal?
[03:12] <Razor-X> sorush20: not the Doom WADs that contain the actual artwork/levels/sounds
[03:12] <OokiiNiku> hello all
[03:12] <Razor-X> sorush20: the engine itself should be fine
[03:12] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, thanx, else I'll try this expert install option (never tried it)
[03:12] <OokiiNiku> would anyone be willing to help out with some networking issues?
[03:12] <sorush20> tapox can I play it for free
[03:12] <BreezyInCalif> kvidell - I'm going to say it was nbd, because I kept *cough* win available for dual-boot ... but it *shoulda* worked, so ...
[03:12] <Razor-X> Baxter_Kylie: the installer stops after that?
[03:12] <tapox> Where's that wonderful, beautiful little boot manager panel from gnome-system-tools?
[03:13] <durt> flieslikeabrick, what besides k3b is useful?
[03:13] <elad`> thanks
[03:13] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: you can reinstall the whole thing; i have done it before
[03:13] <BreezyInCalif> what kind of networking issues, OokiiNiku?
[03:13] <xfelon> I can use nero to burn the ubuntu-5.10-install-i386 iso right?
[03:13] <darkheart> wickedpuppy You can just do 'killall gnome-panel' to restart
[03:13] <Razor-X> xfelon: yeah, you can use anything that can burn an ISO, pretty much
[03:13] <Baxter_Kylie> Razor-X: Well, no but I didn't specify a bootloader so it's telling me I'm going to have boot manually
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> ok ok ...
[03:13] <thoreauputic> xfelon: make sure you burn it as an image
[03:13] <xfelon> ok
[03:13] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, how?
[03:13] <OokiiNiku> well Breezy
[03:13] <xfelon> yes
[03:13] <tapox> sorush20: Yes, and no. You need the Doom scenario file (.wad), however, the WAD file from the Doom demo will work.
[03:13] <xfelon> burn to image
[03:13] <Razor-X> Baxter_Kylie: oh, hmmm, try GRUB then?
[03:13] <elad`> Doesn't work.
[03:14] <UBUNTU-user> thoreauputic : now its doing the weird thing with the lines of color, and the screen is flashing
[03:14] <OokiiNiku> when i install debian from cd it networks just fine on my dell lattitude cpi
[03:14] <elad`> Wait, not - this time it
[03:14] <elad`> 's
[03:14] <elad`> configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.0 not installed - please install first ***
[03:14] <xfelon> well
[03:14] <OokiiNiku> but i installed ubuntu and it doesn't connect out at all
[03:14] <xfelon> what file(s) do i burn?
[03:14] <xfelon> the entire folder?
[03:14] <tritium> elad`, I told you to install libglib1.2-dev
[03:14] <elad`> I have.
[03:14] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: what do you mean? i just booted CD and install it again
[03:14] <Razor-X> sorush20: you can use the Doom _engine_ for free, but the levels and content are not
[03:14] <sorush20> tapox where can I get this file
[03:14] <xfelon> C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Desktop\ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:14] <xfelon> right
[03:14] <xfelon> ?
[03:14] <xfelon> burn that file?
[03:15] <Razor-X> xfelon: yeah
[03:15] <irvin> xfelon yes
[03:15] <xfelon> ok
[03:15] <budluva> anyone here familiar with enlightened gnome?
[03:15] <xfelon> thanks
[03:15] <brenner> elad`: what are you installing?
[03:15] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - specifically, what doesn't it do? I mean, can you see other boxen on your LAN, or are you talking about it not being able to browse the Web, or what ... ?
[03:15] <elad`> babytransa
[03:15] <elad`> -a
[03:15] <tritium> elad`, you also need one of the libgtk*-dev
[03:15] <OokiiNiku> catch that breezy?
[03:15] <Razor-X> budluva: Enlightenment i'm familiar with, enlightened gnome?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: I don't know what causes that, frankly - you can rerun the command I gave you without the -plow and fiddle with it - I suggest trying the vesa driver just to get something working
[03:15] <UBUNTU-user> ok i will do that
[03:15] <budluva> Razor-X http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476
[03:15] <OokiiNiku> well i can't even ping someone attached to the router
[03:15] <elad`> tritium: Exact filename please?
[03:15] <tapox> xfelon: If you burn the ISO like a normal file you'll have one useless CD.
[03:15] <xfelon> ok
[03:15] <anthony> durt: I'm at the step to align the print heads, however I got the error message "ERROR: Unable to open printer port "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z35": Text file busy". What does that mean?
[03:15] <OokiiNiku> it's like the ubuntu didn't install the ethernet card
[03:15] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - can you ping the router itself?
[03:16] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, ok, well that I had several tries (as already mentioned wiht apic and acpi) :)
[03:16] <xfelon> well im going to burn it right now
[03:16] <xfelon> thanks for the help
[03:16] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: also you might try the "simple" options if that won't work
[03:16] <adamb100> hi
[03:16] <elad`> Ah, wait, never mind, the asterisk works.
[03:16] <OokiiNiku> funnything is i can do a network install from the debian basic cd
[03:16] <UBUNTU-user> ok
[03:16] <tritium> elad`, you don't want to install them all, do you?
[03:16] <OokiiNiku> it's a netgear switch i don't think it has a router
[03:16] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - what does ifconfig output? Does the interface have an IP address?
[03:16] <elad`> tritium: It only found one./
[03:16] <UBUNTU-user> i selected 1024x768 , 75 Hz
[03:16] <brenner> 600mb/526mb worth of updates?  is this *after* a breezy install?
[03:16] <tritium> elad`, ok
[03:16] <adamb100> Hows the d-load times going for apt-get upgrading to breezy?
[03:16] <durt> sorry anthony, i have no idea
[03:16] <tritium> elad`, it should be libgtk1.2-dev ?
[03:17] <reiki> adamb100, I'm showing 8 hours here :)
[03:17] <elad`> Exactly.
[03:17] <nekostar> lol
[03:17] <nekostar> 8 hrs?
[03:17] <anthony> durt: Okay, thanks for the guide anyway.
[03:17] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: if it's having troble with drivers, the vesa driver will usually at least get you up and running
[03:17] <OokiiNiku> when i attempt to ping it says that the network is unreachable from a terminal prompt
[03:17] <nekostar> for apt-get install upgrade ?
[03:17] <adamb100> 8 hours?  I think I'll wait for a few days
[03:17] <nalioth> nekostar: see /topic
[03:17] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: uh no. not good. hm. i don't know what else i can advise you.
[03:17] <nekostar> i mean after install of breezy
[03:17] <elad`> transgress: As long as I have your attention - I somehow fucked Konqueror way up. It gives me "There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type." when I try to access a directory.
[03:17] <reiki> nekostar for apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:17] <orangey> hey all! are the backports broken?
[03:18] <FliesLikeABrick> adamb100,  it should speed up as more euros go to sleep
[03:18] <nekostar> ah
[03:18] <nekostar> rite
[03:18] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - what does ifconfig output?
[03:18] <Razor-X> budluva: ohhh, I see, running Enlightenment in Gnome instead of Metacity
[03:18] <moshe> hey folks
[03:18] <adamb100> I propose having us servers and euro servers :p
[03:18] <reiki> hehe
[03:18] <ajmitch_> adamb100: there are
[03:18] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: did you try to install "server"? then install the rest from HD?
[03:18] <b3nw> my beezy install is stuck on configuring packages en-base-language, i tried restarting but it just gets stuck at configuring packages now 0%. please help ;\
[03:18] <Razor-X> adamb100: we already have that
[03:18] <elad`> OK, this just doesn't work.
[03:19] <FliesLikeABrick> b3nw,  installing from CD or apt?
[03:19] <moshe> is there a runlevel I can switch to that won't have X running?
[03:19] <UBUNTU-user> thoreauputic: the Vesa driver works , thanks a bunch
[03:19] <b3nw> CD
[03:19] <OokiiNiku> any specific piece of data breezy?
[03:19] <moshe> other than runlevel 1, I mean
[03:19] <elad`> Gives me errors about assetions and undeclared functions and whatnot.
[03:19] <tritium> elad`, what are you compiling, anyway?
[03:19] <FliesLikeABrick> b3nw,  official cd or burned?
[03:19] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: you're welcome
[03:19] <b3nw> burned
[03:19] <b3nw> it installed cleanly on another box tho -_-
[03:19] <elad`> moshe: yesh lecha masheu dome le'babylon?
[03:19] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - Well, I'm wondering whether the interface has a valid IP address
[03:19] <weob> love the kde ubuntu so far
[03:19] <OokiiNiku> link encap:Ethernet
[03:19] <FliesLikeABrick> ah
[03:19] <elad`> tritium: Babytrans.
[03:19] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, well, how to install it new with hotplug disabled, do not know how to do this
[03:19] <ajmitch_> hi tritium, how's it going? :)
[03:19] <thoreauputic> UBUNTU-user: if you need better performance you can trouble-shoot a bit more
[03:19] <tritium> hi ajmitch_ :)
[03:19] <reiki> I'm fluctuating between 20 and 30kB/s
[03:19] <budluva> Razor-X yes, thats what im trying to do, but i've run into a problem....if you see where it says to edit your ~/.gnome2/session
[03:19] <elad`> *mashehu
[03:20] <tritium> ajmitch_, doing well, how are you?
[03:20] <Razor-X> budluva: mmmhmmmm
[03:20] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - inet addr, I think it would be
[03:20] <OokiiNiku> inet6 addr:fe80::200::86ff:fe3b::2624/64
[03:20] <budluva> Razor-X  sudo gedit ~/.gnome2/session
[03:20] <BreezyInCalif> Oh. Are you running ip6 locally?
[03:20] <ajmitch_> tritium: good, just watching all the people online installing breezy ;)
[03:20] <OokiiNiku> of course i am in the us
[03:20] <b3nw> how to get out of the "Preparing for installion..." Installing Packages @ 0%
[03:20] <flodine> anyone try artwiz font yet
[03:20] <budluva> Razor-X it says look for this line -->  1,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default1
[03:20] <tritium> ajmitch_, no kidding!
[03:20] <b3nw> i'm stuck @ 0% :\
[03:20] <FliesLikeABrick> dual flatscreen and dual processor desktop with breezy
[03:20] <weob> breezy?
[03:20] <OokiiNiku> my ip4 should be in the 155.33.*.* range
[03:20] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: i do not know about hotplug, either. only acpi stuff. always have a problem with it on my two laptops.
[03:20] <moshe> elad, transliterated Hebrew is a very bad way to communicate with me.
[03:20] <weob> did you md5 your iso before you burnt it?
[03:20] <budluva> Razor-X closest i have to that is  0,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default0
[03:20] <OokiiNiku> i am not breezy
[03:20] <UBUNTU-user> thoreauputic: ok, thanks again
[03:20] <thoreauputic> budluva: you don't need sudo to edit something in your home dir
[03:20] <weob> ctrl + alt + del
[03:21] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - what ip4 addy do you show, then?
[03:21] <weob> or reset button
[03:21] <budluva> Razor-X just wondering if anyone has done this before and if its just a typo on his behalf or what
[03:21] <brenner> elad`: babytrans is in the repo
[03:21] <Razor-X> budluva: hmmm... I'm not that sure on this, since I don't use Gnome....
[03:21] <Baxter_Kylie> Anyone have an idea what could be causing failed restarts? System goes to black but no restart.
[03:21] <nekostar> hey i mounted my second hdd to a folder on my local desktop
[03:21] <budluva> hrmm ok
[03:21] <Razor-X> budluva: sorry about that
[03:21] <thoreauputic> budluva: in fact if you do it will save with root permissions I think - which will cause problems
[03:21] <OokiiNiku> i don't see a ip4 cept my loop back
[03:21] <budluva> thoreauputic ???
[03:21] <Razor-X> budluva: lots of others use Gnome, i'm pretty sure
[03:21] <tritium> !info babytrans
[03:21] <nekostar> but it seems i need root permission to write to the second hdd, how can i change that ?
[03:21] <ubotu> babytrans: (Front-end to use the dictionaries from Babylon Translator), section multiverse/text, is extra. Version: 0.9.1-0.3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 248 kB
[03:21] <elad`> brenner: It requires babytrans-common, which isn't in the repositories.
[03:21] <moshe> the dist-upgrade can be run with X running without problems?
[03:21] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - so you're not being assigned an IP; I assume you should be getting that from a dhcp server on your LAN
[03:21] <budluva> moshe yes
[03:22] <moshe> ok
[03:22] <moshe> good
[03:22] <thoreauputic> budluva: why are you using sudo to edit a file in your $HOME dir?
[03:22] <OokiiNiku> correct
[03:22] <budluva> moshe you mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ???
[03:22] <OokiiNiku> I am on a college campus
[03:22] <budluva> thoreauputic im not, thats what the tutorial shows
[03:22] <OokiiNiku> and like i said the debian install configured everything fine, i was apt-get'ing like crazy not ubuntu
[03:22] <moshe> budluva, yes.  when I was a mandrake user, the release notes always said to kill X before doing a distro upgrade.  I was curious if that carried over to ubuntu
[03:22] <tritium> elad`, babytrans does not depend on anything -common
[03:23] <erick> guys anyone who use abiword and gnumeric
[03:23] <budluva> moshe mandrake differs alot from debian/ubuntu :P
[03:23] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - OK. In System menu, choose Administration, then choose Networking
[03:23] <brenner> elad`: in that case, there's a command to get all the dependent libraries so you can install from source....i forgot what it is though...something to do with dpkg
[03:23] <elad`> tritium: That's the error Synaptic gives me.
[03:23] <moshe> budluva, so I've noticed :)
[03:23] <budluva> moshe used mandrake a couple of times and i hated it :P
[03:23] <tritium> elad`, are you running breezy?
[03:23] <flugh> oh yeah, burning my breezy iso now! thanks again ubuntu! :)
[03:23] <OokiiNiku> there
[03:23] <thoreauputic> budluva: >>> budluva Razor-X  sudo gedit ~/.gnome2/session  <<< this looks wrong
[03:23] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, hmmm, ok, I'll keep in mind the server install. First I'll try the "expert" install. Hope I know enough.:) (well,alreadyinstalled gentoo with stageone *buf* was this time consuming ... )
[03:23] <xfelon> install for ubuntu is basic right?
[03:23] <satafterh> good call on that
[03:23] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - You should see a 4-tab window titled Network Settings, yes?
[03:23] <brentdax> Are there mirrors or something I can point Synaptic at?  I have a CD, I just need a place for it to grab the packages that aren't on it.
[03:23] <elad`> I'm using, 5.04, whatever its namey name is.
[03:23] <nekostar> 7% [1 libwxgtk2.6-0 1078760/2968kB 36%]                           21.6kB/s 10m6s
[03:23] <FliesLikeABrick> yes xfelon
[03:23] <nekostar> lol
[03:23] <FliesLikeABrick> very simple
[03:23] <budluva> thoreauputic yar because i copied it from a tutorial on ubuntu forums, im telling you i didnt do it
[03:23] <xfelon> like windows easy?
[03:23] <satafterh> I like you way ya think
[03:23] <moshe> budluva, I used to love it up to and including 10.0 -- I switched to Slackware so I'd force myself how to use Linux properly, and then I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago
[03:24] <OokiiNiku> oh yeah looking at for an hour now :-D btw thanks
[03:24] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - highlight the Ethernet connection and choose properties
[03:24] <thoreauputic> budluva: heheh - OK :)
[03:24] <k_ubuntu> elad: hoaryhedgehog
[03:24] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: didn't see that previously, it is wrong, i've edited my KDE stuff (back when I used KDE) in sudo and it didn't go very well
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> xfelon,  almost, it just doesn't treat you like retard who needs pics to be happy
[03:24] <tritium> elad`, 5.10 was released today.  Try it!
[03:24] <OokiiNiku> enabled and configured for dhcp
[03:24] <Jubei> I need help disabling EDID
[03:24] <tritium> yesterday, even , in some parts of the world
[03:24] <nekostar> hey BreezyInCalif socal here ^_^
[03:24] <xfelon> ok
[03:24] <brenner> yeah, babytrans-common *is* listed as a dependency in hoary
[03:24] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - the connection should be enabled and should be set to get an addy from DHCP
[03:24] <Jubei> I've put the required line in xorg but it still give me the error in the log
[03:24] <elad`> tritium: I can't apt-get it.
[03:24] <BreezyInCalif> hey there nekostar - I'm "up here" in the Bay area
[03:24] <OokiiNiku> correct
[03:25] <nekostar> lol kewl _o/
[03:25] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: "expert" is same as the standard install, but in your control; "server" is to install the base OS (very short installation time)
[03:25] <nekostar> know anything about mounting hdd's BreezyInCalif ?
[03:25] <Dreamglider> is the lastest ubuntu breezy still 5.10 or has it changed ?
[03:25] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - Forgive me if I'm being too basic - you've done all this ?
[03:25] <shadeofgrey> hi guyts i need the breezy repository list again...  can somebody paste the link?
[03:25] <weob> has anyone got WoW running on ubuntu ?
[03:25] <OokiiNiku> yep
[03:25] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - just bits and pieces
[03:25] <OokiiNiku> it's fine i'd rather go step by step if it gets done
[03:25] <snarf> weob i wish
[03:25] <flodine> will there be a starter guide soon for breezy
[03:25] <durt> jubei: is that line 'Option "IgnoreEDID"' under your video card's device section?
[03:25] <Rev-Marc> is there a good download accellerator for Ubuntu and how do I get it?
[03:25] <Razor-X> weob: you tried Cedega/
[03:26] <FliesLikeABrick> shadeofgrey,  see the topic?
[03:26] <nekostar> ah i mounted my second hdd to a folder on my desktop and its all root permissions apparently to write into it !_!
[03:26] <weob> ya i ran it and i get a error 132
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: yes - 5.10 = 2005 October
[03:26] <Razor-X> s/\//?/
[03:26] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - physical layer OK? have you checked by cabling a known-working box and seeing the network is there ... ?
[03:26] <weob> yes i tried cedega
[03:26] <Razor-X> weob: ask in #cedega
[03:26] <Razor-X> :P
[03:26] <Dreamglider> thoreauputic, allright
[03:26] <weob> ok  thanks lol
[03:26] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - second hdd using what filesystem?
[03:26] <OokiiNiku> my switch shows the port active
[03:26] <tritium> !tell elad` about breezy
[03:26] <calc> is dapper open yet?
[03:26] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: what does it say if you run "ifup eth0" from the terminal?
[03:26] <brentdax> Oh, if anybody here likes wikis, this could use some work: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ubuntu_releases_third_version_of_popular_Linux_distribution
[03:26] <OokiiNiku> and the dongle shows 100MB
[03:26] <elad`> thanks
[03:26] <foxgamer> So what do all the new breezy users think of it so far?
[03:26] <Bicchi> for the restricted modules, whats the difference between x86_64 generic   and  amd64-k8
[03:26] <tritium> calc, you're silly ;)
[03:27] <BreezyInCalif> <-- likes Breezy :)
[03:27] <weob> most everything is great
[03:27] <weob> little errors here and there but i can live with it
[03:27] <calc> tritium: :)
[03:27] <budluva> can someone give me a point in the right direction here? im trying to use enlightenment instead of metacity for gnome, reading a howto on ubuntuforums.org which states to look for  1,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default1 in my ~/.gnome2/session but the closest variant of that i can find is ...  0,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --sm-client-id default0 wondering if i should edit that line or what? it supposed to look like this.... 1,R
[03:27] <Razor-X> <-- it's getting too Cold in California :P
[03:27] <weob> but i am not sure what is going on with the graphics drivers
[03:27] <budluva> are the 1's and 0's just line numbers?
[03:27] <BreezyInCalif> Razor-x lol
[03:27] <Razor-X> BreezyInCalif: it is, though
[03:27] <calc> Bicchi: x86_64 is generic and amd64-k8 may have processor optimizations (most likely)(
[03:27] <foxgamer> wish I hadn't got the pre-release now. Sounds like you guys are having much more fun!
[03:28] <weob> i know i have direct rendering but doing glxgears in a terminal window doesnt show me any fps results
[03:28] <calc> foxgamer: apt-get upgrade
[03:28] <thoreauputic> budluva: I think you can do this much more easily using gconf-editor
[03:28] <zovirl> I can't get to the main download site.  Are the links to the torrents posted anywhere else?
[03:28] <OokiiNiku> so yes breezy physical layer checks, ethernet card is activated and set for dhcp
[03:28] <brenner> so yeah, lightwieght web-browsers (i use them for offline viewing of html pages)  any suggestions besides dillo and encompass? (encompass was nice.....some functionality seems to be missing though)
[03:28] <reiki> ok... everyone in Europe, PLEASE....go to sleep... I'm at 18.7 kB/s
[03:28] <reiki> :)
[03:28] <foxgamer> calc: I'm already fully up to date. Just wish that I waited rather than upgrading bit by bit. hehe
[03:28] <Razor-X> brenner: links -g
[03:29] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - have you tried bringing the interface down, then back up? ifdown eth0, ifup eth0
[03:29] <durt> brenner: lynx
[03:29] <IcemanV9> lol reiki :)
[03:29] <reiki> :)
[03:29] <BreezyInCalif> Assuming this is Ethernet0 we're talking
[03:29] <thoreauputic> brenner: actually links2 -g
[03:29] <b3nw> mirrors :)
[03:29] <flodine> im scared my repositories wont let me get java
[03:29] <Razor-X> brenner: Twibright links is better than links2 :P
[03:29] <calc> foxgamer: living on the edge is more fun :)
[03:29] <vithos> is there a gnoppix irc channel?
[03:29] <b3nw> i get almost 2500kb/s from the anl.gov  (i think thats what its called) one
[03:29] <bruder> Ive just discorvered a mirror just after the border router of my ADSL company, in a local university, better impossible :p
[03:29] <Razor-X> vithos: this is #ubuntu, who knows? :P
[03:29] <joetheodd> Hey, whats the easiest way to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[03:29] <foxgamer> calc: pretty sharp too! lol
[03:29] <moogman> Hey guys, is there any other clothing than what is on www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop ?
[03:30] <FliesLikeABrick> joetheodd,  see the topic
[03:30] <brenner> Razor-X, thoreauputic, durt: image support?
[03:30] <Rev-Marc> calc is there a amd64-k8 kernel out? for Ubuntu
[03:30] <budluva> joetheodd change your sources.list from hoary to breezy and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:30] <calc> joetheodd: see topic
[03:30] <thoreauputic> brenner: yes, with links2 -g
[03:30] <OokiiNiku> ok this is kinda long and i'm copying it down.....
[03:30] <shadeofgrey> okay gutys im sorry...  i needd that link to the full sources.list file
[03:30] <reiki> and then go to bed... it'll be a while
[03:30] <joetheodd> FliesLikeABrick and calc: Haha, =p
[03:30] <joetheodd> budluva: thanks
[03:30] <budluva> joetheodd np
[03:30] <BreezyInCalif> joetheodd - be sure to apt-get ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop before doing the apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:30] <shadeofgrey> i tried looking at the links in the topic and they lead to an incomplete list
[03:30] <calc> Rev-Marc: yea i am running 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:30] <Madpilot> how do I find out the pid of a process? Muine just locked and "killall muine" isn't working...
[03:30] <brenner> thoreauputic, Razor-X, durt: righto...will look into them, thanks
[03:30] <zovirl> anyone have the address to the torrents?  the main download page isn't loading so I can't get them
[03:30] <flodine> cano backports yet
[03:30] <Razor-X> brenner: you can compile it in
[03:31] <budluva> BreezyInCalif i thought that came after dist-upgrade?
[03:31] <BreezyInCalif> I thought that too :)
[03:31] <Razor-X> brenner: in Twibright, anyways
[03:31] <budluva> BreezyInCalif im pretty sure i did it after
[03:31] <Rev-Marc> calc how do I get it and iunstall it I am new to Linux?
[03:31] <calc> zovirl: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[03:31] <BreezyInCalif> Cost me a bit of sweat when X wouldn't load
[03:31] <Rev-Marc> install
[03:31] <calc> Rev-Marc: using the package manager or dpkg --purge (package name)
[03:31] <vithos> ok, there is one, but nobody's there. does anyone know what the difference between gnome-livecd-2.12-i386-en-1.iso and gnome-livecd-2.12-i386-en-5.iso is?
[03:31] <budluva> BreezyInCalif hehe
[03:31] <calc> Rev-Marc: if you don't have another kernel installed and you remove it you won't be able to boot
[03:32] <Total_assault> are there any faster mirrors for eastern usa for the apt sources 22kb/s is a lil slow
[03:32] <elad`> How do I make apt-get upgrade not touch a certain package (KDE)?
[03:32] <IcemanV9> reiki: check other mirror sites; i just d/l @ 135kB/s recently :P
[03:32] <Baxter_Kylie> *just checked distrowatch and laughs* Of -course- Mandriva releases today.
[03:32] <Razor-X> vithos: try in #knoppix
[03:32] <vithos> ok
[03:32] <flugh> can i change all my breezy to stable in my /etc/apt/sources.list now?
[03:32] <OokiiNiku> $sudo ifdown eth0
[03:32] <calc> Rev-Marc: ah you meant install? then use the package manager to select it as well
[03:32] <OokiiNiku> ifdown: interface eth0, notconfigured
[03:32] <zovirl> calc: thanks.  the breezy-install* ones are pre-release, right?
[03:32] <Toma-> vithos: id say its just another build of that live cd...
[03:32] <Razor-X> Total_assault: you must be jesting with dial-up users, no? :P
[03:32] <vithos> ermm.. does knoppix have anything to do with gnoppix?
[03:32] <Rev-Marc> calc I mean get it and install it
[03:32] <thoreauputic> !tell flugh about breezy
[03:32] <vithos> Toma-: so 5 is newer than 1?
[03:32] <Toma-> yes
[03:32] <reiki> IcemanV9: ok but how do I stop apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:32] <weob> do you suggest i compile glxgears from source and run it to get fps or what am i doing wrong?
[03:32] <vithos> ok, thanks
[03:32] <Razor-X> vithos: more than it does with Ubuntu, i'ld imagine :P
[03:32] <calc> zovirl: nope, the ubuntu-5.10-{live,install,dvd} ones
[03:33] <budluva> does anyone here use enlightenment in gnome? im trying to switch from metacity to enlightenment, but i have a few questions
[03:33] <vithos> gnoppix is based on ubuntu
[03:33] <calc> zovirl: the breezy ones are prerelease ones
[03:33] <IcemanV9> reiki: nah. don't. :(
[03:33] <OokiiNiku> and when i did ifup, i got there already is a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 0
[03:33] <Razor-X> vithos: oh really? it used to be based on Knoppix....
[03:33] <reiki> hehe
[03:33] <zovirl> calc: got it thanks
[03:33] <Razor-X> anyways, homework time
[03:33] <bimberi> vithos: gnoppix was based on knoppix (pre ubuntu).  Then it got with the strength :)
[03:33] <OokiiNiku> followed by a bunch of dhcpdicovers
[03:33] <Razor-X> more homework like what you people saw in my screenshot :P
[03:34] <thoreauputic> weob: glxgears --Iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark  or something like that :P
[03:34] <OokiiNiku> and no dhcpoffers recieved
[03:34] <thoreauputic> weob: see the man page
[03:34] <BreezyInCalif> OK ... so you're not seeing the dhcp server
[03:35] <OokiiNiku> yep so it appears
[03:35] <shadeofgrey> thor:  hey there!  whats up brother?
[03:35] <bimberi> thoreauputic: PM? (regarding Breezy CD)
[03:35] <OokiiNiku> would this be a hardware/drivers issue?
[03:35] <Jubei> ignoreedid is set properly but Im still getting 1280x1024
[03:35] <thoreauputic> bimberi: OK :D
[03:35] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - can you temporarily assign a static IP addy without messing smne up?
[03:35] <vithos> so, would you call that last part of the filename (5 or 1) a revision number? or something else?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: hi
[03:35] <Jubei> seems noone was able to get over this error
[03:35] <shadeofgrey> thoreauputic:  its good to see you...  havent spoken in a loooooong tike
[03:35] <OokiiNiku> smne....not sure what that is
[03:36] <flugh> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[03:36] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: check your Hwaddr of the card in ifconfig. I once had a card that reset that address to zeros sometimes.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: :)
[03:36] <BreezyInCalif> someone
[03:36] <flugh> thoreauputic: hoping the new iso will do it clean for my work boxen
[03:36] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: you have fans :P
[03:36] <shadeofgrey> wheres a good place to find information about setting up a ubuntu box to be able to handle windows media and quicktime codecs?
[03:36] <joetheodd> thoreauputic: HAI!
[03:36] <Razor-X> shadeofgrey: mplayer can do that, if you give it every codec it has
[03:36] <OokiiNiku> HWaddr 00:00:86:3b:26:24
[03:36] <Razor-X> (which is done by compilation, generally)
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: little do they know my wicked ways ;P
[03:37] <satafterh> any takers on video and audeo synce issue with all players
[03:37] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: :P
[03:37] <shadeofgrey> thoreauputic:  installed amd64 versiuon a few hours ago, found out a bunch of stufgf didnt work, and JUST finished the i386 installation...  now i have to set everything up alll over again
[03:37] <shadeofgrey> razor:  how do i install mplayter?
[03:37] <elad`> I have two debs which depend on each other, and I can't install them, because each one tells me it depends on the other. Help?
[03:37] <shadeofgrey> and what version do i want?  im running i386 verssion of ubuntu breezy
[03:37] <joetheodd> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-get install mplayer gmplayer
[03:37] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: probably ok. Try disconnecting the cable and reconnecting, then run the ifup eth0 again
[03:37] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you need the multiverse repo
[03:37] <amonkey> is there a downside to just changing my apt sources? is a fresh install "better"?
[03:37] <b3nw> :\ what do I do if Xorg blows up when gdm tries to start?
[03:37] <Razor-X> shadeofgrey: you canc ompile it, go ahead, try it
[03:38] <OokiiNiku> ok as i disconnect the cable, the 100mbs lightt goes off then on when i reconnect
[03:38] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, hmmm, there seems to be a kernel option "hotplug=off"
[03:38] <b3nw> why would xorg on hoarty work and not breezy?
[03:38] <IcemanV9> k_ubuntu: yeah? cool. will remember that for the next person. :)
[03:39] <FliesLikeABrick> b3nw, does it tell you anything when it fails?
[03:39] <OokiiNiku> it's sending the dhcpdiscovers to port 67, is that norm?
[03:39] <durt> b3nw, whatever changes to xorg you made, you will probably have to undo in order to get X to work again
[03:39] <shadeofgrey> thoreauputic:  coulfd you please give me a link to a page that has the full list of breezy repos in a example sources.list file?  the one that comes preinstalled blows rancid aardvark balls...  its very incomplete
[03:39] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - can you assign a static IP addy for the time being without messing somebody else up? That would allow you to check a lot of issues in one fell swoop
[03:39] <k_ubuntu> IcemanV9, well, first I'll try it,then I tell you, if it really works :)
[03:39] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - Port 67 is DHCP; that's OK
[03:39] <Eppu> OookiNiku: yes. Also try sudo ping -b -I eth0 255.255.255.255
[03:39] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: look at ubotu's info
[03:39] <thoreauputic> !sources
[03:39] <ubotu> I guess sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:40] <OokiiNiku> basically it's saying DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 vearious intervals
[03:40] <root> hey all
[03:40] <jfarrell> hey all
[03:40] <OokiiNiku> bad preload value
[03:40] <Baxter_Kylie> Feh... It runs but not networking of any kind... so first time user -- what is the standard troubleshooting process, here?
[03:40] <durt> what is the command to change the kde theme?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> jfarrell: IRC as root is evil, you know....
[03:40] <jfarrell> how do i get kde with breezy
[03:40] <icarus> hi all
[03:41] <icarus> how is everyone doing today?
[03:41] <OokiiNiku> should be 1,...65536
[03:41] <Jubei> anyone know a sure way to remove EDID
[03:41] <jfarrell> thoreauputic: you noticed, i thought i changed fast enough :)
[03:41] <FliesLikeABrick> jfarrell,  apt-cache search kde | grep desktop
[03:41] <FliesLikeABrick> i think its kdebase and kde-desktop
[03:41] <FliesLikeABrick> but look for the right packagenames
[03:41] <thoreauputic> jfarrell: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <theine> jfarrell, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <FliesLikeABrick> ah
[03:41] <sorush20> how do I move a thread in the ubuntu forum
[03:41] <theine> nice...
[03:41] <Blunted> Hello
[03:42] <Kira> Is the one known as KyleBrooks around here tonight?
[03:42] <Blunted> i have a simple question
[03:42] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - I lost track, did you get your hdd question worked out?
[03:42] <shadeofgrey> okay....  apt-get install mplayer -- that'll get mplayer itself...  how do i make sure that i have all the codecs it uses?
[03:42] <Blunted> is it best to ubgrade ubuntu to breezy via apt-get or downloading and using the install cd?
[03:42] <Jubei> anyone know a sure way to remove EDID
[03:43] <theine> shadeofgrey, you need to install the w32codecs package manually
[03:43] <thoreauputic> !tell Blunted about breezy
[03:43] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: do you remember if you usually get the same ip from the dhcp server? If you do, use sudo ifconfig your-ip dev eth0 up
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> blun:  download the official stable release CD and install that
[03:43] <FliesLikeABrick> Blunted,  if you decide to use the downloaded CD, you'd probably get the best speeds if you use a torrent
[03:43] <foxgamer> Blunted: It depends if you have information to save. If you can afford to do it, re-install.
[03:43] <FliesLikeABrick> since the mirrors are undoubtedly swamped
[03:43] <Blunted> yea
[03:43] <weob> there are no man pages to glxgears
[03:43] <OokiiNiku> Eppu what do you mean same Ip from the server
[03:43] <Blunted> im trying to do the ubgrade in the console via apt-get n new sources.list
[03:43] <thoreauputic> foxgamer: no need to reinstall - dist-upgrade is fine
[03:43] <OokiiNiku> this machine would be new to the network
[03:43] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: I'm sorry, I mean ifconfig eth0 ip up
[03:44] <weob> nvm found on google
[03:44] <FliesLikeABrick> are there any expected performance benefits/losses with breezy?
[03:44] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: Often times the DHCP servers give you the same IP every time, if your MAC address does not change
[03:44] <foxgamer> thoreauputic: Is it? I know a few people were having problems. Probably just down to how busy it was.
[03:44] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - the key, I think, is to establish whether you have a hardware problem or a network problem. If you can assign a static IP address and see the network, that would pretty much eliminate your local box, cable run, etc.
[03:44] <OokiiNiku> well i don't know what that ipaddress would be this computer is new to the server....
[03:44] <thoreauputic> foxgamer: yes, the servers are kind of swamped I think
[03:45] <nekostar> BreezyInCalif, no clu !_!
[03:45] <nekostar> i e no >_>
[03:45] <nekostar> its ok
[03:45] <OokiiNiku> hmm i might have a solution
[03:45] <nekostar> i think i need to change permission of that folder // the other hdd
[03:45] <OokiiNiku> let me grab my xbox's ip lol
[03:45] <weob> hehe why did they take out the fps counter
[03:45] <nekostar> or rather the owner
[03:45] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - what was your mount command?
[03:45] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: yes, and grab the netmask value too
[03:45] <thoreauputic> weob: they got ick of people using it as a benchmark I guess :P
[03:46] <nekostar> sudo mount /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura
[03:46] <thoreauputic> *sick
[03:46] <weob> i guess so
[03:46] <nekostar> no wait
[03:46] <weob> its not a real benchmark its just a easy comparison
[03:46] <nekostar> i used the -t switch
[03:46] <nekostar> sudo mount -t etc3 /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura <<-- i believe
[03:46] <kryptos> ubuntu ! :D
[03:46] <FliesLikeABrick> are there any expected performance benefits/losses with breezy?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> so not its totally useless :P
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> FliesLikeABrick,  from what ive been hearing - its better performance wise.
[03:47] <brenner> i asked about lightweight browsers before...any suggestions for a lightweight newsgroup reader? :)
[03:47] <twoknee> when i do a apt-get update i get the following error and i have googled it to no avail.  my apt is broken or something.  GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[03:47] <thoreauputic> afk
[03:47] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks Dr_Fate
[03:47] <FliesLikeABrick> Dr_Willis,
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> not that ive seen any real benchmarks on the subject
[03:47] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah
[03:47] <phiqtion> what are the 3 icons i got in my breezy distro? hda1, hda5, hda6. it says i dont have any permissions to view it
[03:48] <dooglus> brenner: trn4
[03:48] <twoknee> anyone have any ideas ?
[03:48] <weob> doom3 good benchmark for linux?
[03:48] <OokiiNiku> ok now put these settings into my network settings as static
[03:48] <theine> phiqtion, those are probably your windows partitions
[03:48] <nekostar> what was the package for compiler? dev-utilis or something ?
[03:48] <weob> they dont have 3dmark for linux ; )
[03:49] <theine> nekostar, build-essentials
[03:49] <weob> d3d program
[03:49] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: if possible, try to get the default gateway address too from the xbox.
[03:49] <nekostar> thanx theine
[03:49] <OokiiNiku> i did
[03:49] <weob> hmm wonder if wine could install it and would it give accurate results?
[03:49] <brenner> dooglus: looks interesting...thanks, i'll try it. although i'd prefer an X app
[03:49] <OokiiNiku> i filled in ip address mask and default gateway
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> weob,  thats scary
[03:49] <weob> haha ya it is
[03:49] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Dr_Willis  perfect description
[03:49] <dooglus> what package do I need if I want to be able to "mail dooglus@gmail.com" from the command line and have the mail delivered?
[03:49] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: and name server addresses
[03:49] <nekostar> theine package not found,
[03:49] <dooglus> I tried it, and it seemed to work, but the mail never arrived.
[03:49] <FliesLikeABrick> dooglus,  postfix or sendmail or equivalent
[03:50] <dooglus> FliesLikeABrick: thanks.  any idea where the mail I typed is currently residing?
[03:50] <os2mac> can someone tell me where the essid and key are stored for a wlan0 connection?
[03:50] <FliesLikeABrick> nope dooglus
[03:50] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: although you can try pinging your default gateway without the name servers
[03:50] <twoknee> breezy-updates is giving me a error on a apt-get update with the following error your help would be greatly appreciated.  GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[03:50] <FliesLikeABrick> os2mac, /etc/network/interfaces sometimes
[03:50] <FliesLikeABrick> os2mac,  you can tell by typing iwconfig wlan0
[03:51] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: try pinging the default gateway ip, once you have the interface up.
[03:51] <durt> wtf, opera just decided to stop using antialiased fonts
[03:51] <ScislaC> Downloaded breezy. Burned, ejected, and reinserted disk. It asks if I want to upgrade, yes. When Synaptic was open I had to choose abort when downloading a package, so nothing was upgraded. Now it won't let me choose upgrade from anywhere. Any ideas how to get back to that?
[03:51] <OokiiNiku> well i atleast got something more than no network connected
[03:51] <Versedtoo> Does anyone know the command in terminal to upgrade to the latest breezy?
[03:52] <FliesLikeABrick> dooglus,  if you go to set up mail stuff, i'd recognize postfix over sendmail because it is more userfriendly for someone new to mail config
[03:52] <os2mac> the point is I don't want have to type it everytime I startup.
[03:52] <Entranced> Anyone tried this yet ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[03:52] <OokiiNiku> i got destination host un reachable
[03:52] <FliesLikeABrick> Versedtoo, see the topic
[03:52] <nekostar> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:52] <makkk> I'm using the gnome desktop and am listening to music using amarok. This makes it impossible to hear event sounds. how can i fix this?
[03:52] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: does ifconfig now show the ip and netmask?
[03:52] <weob> most likely if you have wpa or wep - you gotta use some kind of program to handle that - like wpa_supplicant \
[03:52] <phiqtion> theine: how can i get root access to them?
[03:52] <robertj> heya all. I've got no sound, but my sound card is detected...
[03:52] <robertj> esound is installed
[03:52] <nekostar> how do i get synaptic to get the correct key?
[03:52] <OokiiNiku> yes
[03:53] <robertj> I don't have any startup sounds
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> robertj,  run a volume controll mixer and twiddlw with the sliders
[03:53] <navyn> anybody know a good place to try and get support for my scanner in ubuntu?  It detects my scanner, but cannot get it to talk to SANE
[03:54] <scott> Can anybody recommend a good media player that works with Ubuntu?
[03:54] <weob> vlc
[03:54] <kvidell> mplayer
[03:54] <weob> apt-get install vlc
[03:54] <FliesLikeABrick> vlc and xmms
[03:54] <Entranced> scott, Look into this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[03:54] <weob> mplayer too ya
[03:54] <brenner> !players
[03:54] <ubotu> [players]  Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[03:54] <b3nw> (EE) No devices detected - xorg :\ ?
[03:54] <icarus> is there like a faq or something for breazy??
[03:54] <Entranced> scott, it will make your life easier
[03:54] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: weird.. I would double check the cables if I were you. Use a different cable if you can
[03:54] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell icarus about faq
[03:54] <brenner> b3nw: try reconfigging xorg
[03:54] <scott> Thanks for all the replys!!!
[03:55] <bimberi> faq
[03:55] <b3nw> how?
[03:55] <icarus> thanks flieslikeabrick!!!!!
[03:55] <brenner> !tell b3nw about xorg
[03:55] <robertj> Dr_Willis: looks good through the gui
[03:55] <b3nw> ty
[03:55] <makkk> how do i get amarok and any other sound besides it to play together?
[03:55] <brenner> b3nw: back up your xorg.conf file first if you want
[03:55] <erirlar> hi, can i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?
[03:55] <BreezyInCalif> OokiiNiku - I agree with Eppu - looks more like hardware or cable, esp since this is a new box
[03:55] <FliesLikeABrick> erirlar,  see the topic
[03:55] <wulfy814> nekostar: anyone answer your key question yet?
[03:55] <Entranced> makkk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 I think there may be an option for that
[03:56] <icarus> !tell icarus about ati
[03:56] <OokiiNiku> however the wierd thing is, ialmost guaruntee you i insert the debian cd, and it will apt-get
[03:56] <foxiness> after i insert the ubuntu-rc CD on ubuntu 5.04 and do upgrede now i try to install ubuntu-desktop but i can not is this will broke my system after i do restart?
[03:56] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell FliesLikeABrick about ati
[03:56] <Entranced> wulfy814, NOPE
[03:56] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - in your mount command did you specify any options like -o=defaults ?
[03:56] <robertj> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[03:56] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help
[03:56] <icarus> hey, this tell thing rocks!!!!!!!!!
[03:57] <ColonelKernel> is it pissible to upgrade ubuntu w/o losing my current files or is it better to do a fresh install?
[03:57] <Greger> ColonelKernel, its possible
[03:57] <FliesLikeABrick> ColonelKernel,  upgrade with apt
[03:57] <Parisi1> ColonelKernel Of course.
[03:57] <shadeofgrey> i installed the nvida-glx package and enabled the configuration but i dont see the nvidia splash screen when i stop and restart the gdm
[03:57] <b3nw> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[03:57] <FliesLikeABrick> ColonelKernel,  see the topic
[03:57] <weob> the best i have tried so far - right up there with suse with ease
[03:57] <benkong2_> anyone know what the problem with this error is? W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release:
[03:57] <shadeofgrey> how do i check to see if its iunstalled right
[03:57] <FliesLikeABrick> yes
[03:57] <FliesLikeABrick> er
[03:57] <b3nw> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration
[03:57] <Greger> shadeofgrey, if what is?
[03:57] <Parisi1> shadeofgrey Have you replaced the xorg.conf ?
[03:57] <Greger> ah sry
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> I notice if you just pop the cd in it asks you if you want to upgrade, I just wanted to know if this is actually safe, I mean gcc4 and nvidia drivers and the such...
[03:58] <Parisi1> shadeofgrey The driver should be "nvidia" as opposed to "nv
[03:58] <weob> what do linux users use for benchmarking linux 3d card drivers?
[03:58] <weob> tuxracer ? ;)
[03:58] <Parisi1> we glx gears ?
[03:59] <weob> glxgears doesnt show fps any more
[03:59] <shadeofgrey> its set right i just checked it
[03:59] <nekostar> wulfy814, no no one has answered that // BreezyInCalif no no other options
[03:59] <Greger> quake 3? enemy territory?
[03:59] <Parisi1> It doesnt? aw
[03:59] <weob> glxgears aint no benchmark
[03:59] <shadeofgrey> lemme try a full reboot
[03:59] <Kira> weob: and Windows users use minesweeper to benchmark 2d performance. ;P
[03:59] <Cyrus> hey can anyone help me with Dual-Bootin
[03:59] <weob> quake 3 is outdated
[03:59] <Entranced>  GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:59] <weob> lol
[03:59] <icarus> !tell icarus about flash
[03:59] <Parisi1> i'll be back later.
[03:59] <Parisi1> weo1 Anything that rins natevely under linux.
[03:59] <Parisi1> runs*
[03:59] <Entranced> icarus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[03:59] <weob> ive installed ut2004 and played it but havent figured out how to get fps nor the results of a benchmark
[03:59] <wulfy814> Entranced: it seems to be multiverse that's broken right?
[03:59] <OokiiNiku> so heres the wrap up
[03:59] <Entranced> no idea
[03:59] <FliesLikeABrick> google should tell you how to see fps weob
[03:59] <OokiiNiku> i have a good cable
[04:00] <weob> ok
[04:00] <benkong2_> Entranced; thanks....
[04:00] <wulfy814> Entranced: yes, if you remove it from /etc/apt/sources
[04:00] <wulfy814> then error goes
[04:00] <wulfy814> so it's just multivers
[04:00] <Entranced> benkong2, for what ?
[04:00] <OokiiNiku> and the network card recognizes there is a cable.... i insert a static ip, i can't ping, i go to dhcp no network
[04:00] <wulfy814> but, that's where msttcorefonts are
[04:00] <wulfy814> and many other things I want :-)
[04:00] <benkong2_> Entranced; thegpg error i got
[04:00] <OokiiNiku> any ideas?
[04:00] <twoknee> Entranced i am getting the same error but no one has proposed a solution for me
[04:00] <Entranced> yup
[04:00] <pjstolix> hi
[04:01] <Entranced> no idea what is up with the GPG BADSIG
[04:01] <pjstolix> im a big problem witg ipod on ubuntu hoary
[04:01] <Baxter_Kylie> Oi! No networking... doesn't recognize my logical partitions either... any help would be appreciate!
[04:01] <jack-black> is there anyone here that is really good with internet connections?
[04:01] <jack-black> if so,... i need help
[04:01] <OokiiNiku> i know debian reg dc-> network install works cause i did it twice debore going ubuntu
[04:01] <navyn> can anyone help me with a scanner problem?
[04:01] <daved_> if im running off the breezy livecd? how can i write an install to disk?
[04:01] <Rev-Marc> How do I determine my kernel version?
[04:01] <nekostar> Entranced, the best ive come up with is reload about 3 times
[04:01] <weob> perhaps its a sourceslist problem?
[04:01] <Entranced> Rev-Marc, uname -l
[04:01] <twoknee> if the gpg error is that common shouldn't there my a tinyurl in the topic
[04:01] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - how 'bout umount and then mount using the -o=defaults option
[04:01] <Entranced> nekostar,  :) hehe
[04:01] <Rev-Marc> Entranced thank you
[04:01] <nekostar> ok BreezyInCalif ill try that
[04:01] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: what card is it anyway?
[04:02] <nekostar> so it would be
[04:02] <Entranced> Rev-Marc, NP
[04:02] <Cyrus> Someone, please help me
[04:02] <nekostar> sudo mount -t -o=defaults /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura <<-=-=?
[04:02] <Cyrus> i need info on dual-booting.
[04:02] <Entranced> For installation of EXTRA stuff that doesn't come stock try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[04:02] <OokiiNiku> the card is a 10/100 lan+56k modem card pcima laptop card
[04:02] <icarus> cyrus, what are you trying to dual boot?
[04:02] <nalioth> Cyrus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:03] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - it would be "/mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura -o=defaults" (assuming that it is formatted as an ext3 filesystem
[04:03] <daved_> can i do a real install from a livecd?
[04:03] <apokryphos> daved_: nope
[04:03] <Eppu> ookiiNiku: what does sudo lspci -v say for that card?
[04:03] <daved_> i'm booted into the livecd now
[04:03] <Rev-Marc> Entranced I got "uname: invalid option -- l"
[04:03] <bimberi> daved_: no
[04:03] <daved_> apokryphos: lame
[04:03] <Entranced> Rev-Marc, one sec
[04:03] <nekostar> eh yeah it is and yeah ok thanx a LOT!
[04:03] <pjstolix> somebody help me
[04:03] <Entranced> Rev-Marc, uname -a
[04:03] <anthony> When starting the mplayer, I keep getting the error message "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)." How do I fix this?
[04:03] <Entranced> sorry
[04:03] <apokryphos> "help me" has to be one of the most useless phrases people use :)
[04:03] <weob> yes i got that one too
[04:04] <BreezyInCalif> nekostar - sorry - that should be "/mount -t ext3 -o=defaults /dev/hdd1 ~/Desktop/sakura"  - bad cut/paste
[04:04] <weob> i think that one is common
[04:04] <Rev-Marc> Entranced NP thanks again
[04:04] <pjstolix> hahaha
[04:04] <pjstolix> sorry
[04:04] <Cyrus> msg Icarus i already looked at that
[04:04] <budluva> hrmm
[04:04] <pjstolix> an ipod
[04:04] <weob> its beta software so dont worry - but maybe making people aware is good ; )
[04:04] <Cyrus> wait
[04:04] <pjstolix> i need help with an ipod shuffle
[04:04] <pjstolix> 512
[04:04] <Cyrus> msg Icarus sorry, i read the wrong thing
[04:04] <weob> who wants an ipod with videoo ?
[04:04] <Eppu> anthony: install mplayer-fonts
[04:04] <icarus> cyrus: its ok dude
[04:04] <BreezyInCalif> Got to go ... good luck to all and thanks to many :)
[04:04] <pjstolix> i : )
[04:04] <apokryphos> daved_: the dvd can though
[04:04] <anthony> Eppu: Okay, thanks.
[04:04] <pjstolix> xD
[04:04] <Cyrus> msg icarus so whats wrong is.
[04:04] <pjstolix> in ubuntu
[04:05] <Cyrus> uhhh
[04:05] <niggpie> Hi there. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 after previously using 5.04. For some reason, when Ubuntu loads, all I get is a green/white/black screen that looks absolutely morbid, yet I can see my mouse cursor and move it around.. but nothing more. I suspect something's up with the video. Does 5.10 not support my ASUS Radeon 9200SE? :( I've browse the forums, but haven't come across any others experiencing similar issues. Any insight?
[04:05] <Cyrus> well
[04:05] <pjstolix> i try to sincronize
[04:05] <weob> i just bought a ipod photo not too long ago
[04:05] <Cyrus> i get to the manual partition
[04:05] <Cyrus> and i set up 3 partitions.
[04:05] <OokiiNiku> Eppu: i don't know which one it is
[04:05] <weob> 40 giger
[04:05] <makkk> entranced, i cant seem to find where to download that script. i can see the image, but see no link for the file
[04:05] <pjstolix> but
[04:05] <makkk> entranced, that is the automatix script
[04:05] <icarus> cyrus: did the partitions work?
[04:05] <Entranced> it's on the other side of the screenshot
[04:05] <Entranced> makkk, .gz
[04:06] <pjstolix> the ipod dont process
[04:06] <pjstolix> xD
[04:06] <Eppu> OokiiNiku: oh, you said pcmcia, sorry. It is not listed there then
[04:06] <Cyrus> well...here's the situation
[04:06] <Cyrus> in windows.
[04:06] <Entranced> makkk, look to the right of the screenshot...there is a link to tar.gz file
[04:06] <makkk> entranced. not swhowing up. let me try a diff browser
[04:06] <Cyrus> i have 1 HD
[04:06] <OokiiNiku> i see the audio, video, bridge, usb, ide bridge,
[04:06] <pjstolix> aaaa is a spanish channel of ubuntu?
[04:06] <Cyrus> and its set up in 2 paritions
[04:06] <OokiiNiku> yea
[04:06] <Cyrus> a 70 GB C:\ Partition
[04:06] <Cyrus> with my windows stuff
[04:06] <Entranced> makkk, firefox works
[04:06] <weob> bought my ipod in july actually
[04:06] <Cyrus> that i don't want to harm.
[04:06] <pjstolix> jpor que nadie cacha nada
[04:06] <Cyrus> and a D:\ Drive
[04:06] <pjstolix> algien que hable espaol?
[04:06] <Cyrus> that was originally a recovery partition.
[04:07] <makkk> entranced, nm, it was off to the side. i had to scroll right to see it. thanks
[04:07] <nalioth> !es
[04:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:07] <Entranced> makkk,  HEhehe
[04:07] <_Temujin> What's the best viewer/plugin for WMV or ASF files...
[04:07] <pjstolix> gracias
[04:07] <weob> maybe the newer beta vlc?
[04:07] <nalioth> _Temujin: you need w32codecs for most of them
[04:07] <weob> i dunno - ive had hit or miss play with that on os x
[04:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _Temujin about w32codecs
[04:07] <Entranced> _Temujin, check this place http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[04:07] <OokiiNiku> well everyone i got to go, but i will prob be back
[04:07] <weob> i love vlc best on os x its just so damn sexy
[04:07] <icarus> cyrus: ok, hmmmm, dude, i really don't know sorry, I just set my partitions automatically
[04:07] <OokiiNiku> thanks for the troubleshooting
[04:07] <jmain> anyone else have an issue with gksu?
[04:08] <icarus> cyrus: sorry i wasn't much help man
[04:08] <OokiiNiku> :-(
[04:08] <OokiiNiku> thanks again
[04:08] <Cyrus> ok
[04:08] <Cyrus> thats fine anyway
[04:08] <Cyrus> thanks
[04:08] <Cyrus> paging naolity
[04:08] <Cyrus> *naolith
[04:08] <robertj> hrmm
[04:08] <robertj> its not a volume problem
[04:08] <wile_coyote> i have a ?
[04:08] <robertj> rhythmbox plays each audio file in /usr/share/sounds in .1 sec ;)
[04:09] <nalioth> Cyrus: ?
[04:09] <Cyrus> hey
[04:09] <Cyrus> can you help me out
[04:09] <Cyrus> i already read that tutorial
[04:09] <navyn> anybody know a good room to help with scanners?
[04:09] <Cyrus> its not working for me.
[04:09] <wile_coyote> i'm trying to login the latest live cd
[04:09] <nalioth> Cyrus: refresh me please
[04:09] <weob> wmv and asf are just not good file formats - i dont recommend them
[04:09] <wile_coyote> umm...login and password?
[04:09] <FliesLikeABrick> does breezy have the "root terminal" thing like hoary did?
[04:09] <weob> wonder if its possible to install wmp in wine ? anyone know
[04:10] <nalioth> weob: why would you want to?
[04:10] <warpforge> why do you want WMP?
[04:10] <weob> perhaps v 6.4
[04:10] <Cyrus> ok, uh, you sent me the link for the tutorial on the wiki
[04:10] <Cyrus> i tried that.
[04:10] <Cyrus> and it didn't work
[04:10] <jmain> I can sudo fine but gksu fails
[04:10] <Cyrus> so right now
[04:10] <weob> just to play the crappy format
[04:10] <Cyrus> i have 1 hard drive
[04:10] <Cyrus> 2 partitions
[04:10] <Cyrus> a C Drive
[04:10] <Cyrus> with my windows stuff
[04:10] <Cyrus> at appx. 70 GB
[04:10] <Cyrus> and a D Drive
[04:10] <weob> it is quite prolific on the web
[04:10] <apokryphos> jmain: should be using gksudo, if you're not..
[04:10] <Cyrus> which was my recovery drive
[04:10] <apokryphos> !enter
[04:10] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:10] <nalioth> Cyrus: Cyrus please join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:10] <jmain> I will try that
[04:10] <warpforge> weob: just install win32 codecs
[04:10] <Cyrus> ...is installing Kubuntu like installing Ubuntu?
[04:10] <weob> how do i do that apt-get install win32 codecs ?
[04:11] <nalioth> Cyrus: yes it is
[04:11] <warpforge> !tell weob about win32
[04:11] <jmain> cool that works
[04:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell weob about w32codecs
[04:11] <weob> lol
[04:11] <warpforge> !tell weob about win32codecs
[04:11] <warpforge> goddamn
[04:11] <louix> do i have to burn another cd
[04:11] <nalioth> warpforge: no such thing, bud
[04:11] <warpforge> what is win32 codecs for the bot?
[04:11] <louix> or can i update ubuntu through synaptic
[04:11] <wile_coyote> can anyone tell me the Breezy Badger livecd login and password?
[04:11] <bimberi> warpforge: w32codecs
[04:11] <nalioth> louix: use synaptic
[04:11] <FliesLikeABrick> louix,  read the topic
[04:11] <louix> thanx
[04:11] <wulfy814> nekostar: apt-key update is your friend
[04:11] <weob> thank ye
[04:11] <weob> thank ye
[04:12] <louix> hi-traffic
[04:12] <louix> thats fine
[04:12] <wulfy814> that fixed the gpg error for me
[04:12] <louix> im leaving the machine on all night
[04:12] <geppy> How can I make a tar archive greater than 2 gigs using Ubuntu-i386?
[04:12] <warpforge> bimberli: win32codecs isn't in the bot either
[04:12] <apokryphos> warpforge: you didn't read what he said
[04:12] <louix> i hope my soundcard is supported this time
[04:12] <navyn> my scanner is in sane-backends.  how do i use that info to get it to work in ubuntu?
[04:12] <Entranced> marillat has w32codecs
[04:12] <louix> that'll be the best
[04:12] <louix> :)
[04:12] <nalioth> Entranced: marillat is a bad word here, please dont use it
[04:12] <Entranced> hehe
[04:13] <Entranced> what did he do ?
[04:13] <bimberi> warpforge: take the "in" out :)
[04:13] <geppy> Entranced: most of his files aren't legal
[04:13] <warpforge> ah
[04:13] <wile_coyote> can anyone tell me the Breezy Badger livecd login and password? please?
[04:13] <geppy> Entranced: At least in the states.
[04:13] <Entranced> ther you go
[04:13] <weob> dont need one?
[04:13] <apokryphos> Entranced: the repository has broken a few systems around here, too; debian and ubuntu vary too much as it is
[04:13] <geppy> since when do you need one?
[04:13] <weob> live should be no password
[04:13] <wile_coyote> what login?
[04:13] <bimberi> wile_coyote: the username is ubuntu, no password is set
[04:13] <orangey> hmm
[04:13] <wile_coyote> tried ubuntu
[04:13] <Entranced> apokryphos, win32codecs didn't brake anything for me
[04:13] <orangey> is there an "apt-get --fix-broken"?
[04:13] <geppy> anyone know about +2GB .tar.gz?
[04:14] <wile_coyote> no worky
[04:14] <bimberi> wile_coyote: are you locked out by the screensaver?
[04:14] <louix> thank you guys
[04:14] <warpforge> orangey: use synaptec
[04:14] <geppy> orangey: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:14] <louix> goodnight :)
[04:14] <jfarrell> hey all i did an apt-get install kdesktop, but i still cant see kde in my session popup
[04:14] <jfarrell> ideas
[04:14] <nalioth> wtf was that?
[04:14] <apokryphos> jfarrell: err, it should be kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <geppy> What can I use to make 2GB+ archives?
[04:15] <wile_coyote> can
[04:15] <apokryphos> geppy: quit flooding; if someome is willing/able to help, they will
[04:15] <wile_coyote> can't login at all
[04:15] <b3nw> where to find w32codecs ? is that only on backports?
[04:15] <apokryphos> !tell b3nw about w32codecs
[04:15] <Entranced> b3nw, yup
[04:15] <wile_coyote> ubuntu and no password doesn't work
[04:15] <apokryphos> Entranced: no
[04:15] <b3nw> pooy
[04:15] <Entranced> marillat
[04:15] <robertj> Dr_Willis: for some reason the module wasnt probed in but that didn't fix it
[04:15] <apokryphos> Entranced: no need to use it for that
[04:15] <_Temujin> w32codecs aren't installed by automatix
[04:15] <orangey> Hmm. I keep getting "The following packages have been kept back:"
[04:15] <b3nw> because of copyright stuff?
[04:15] <orangey> and it shows ~ 120 packages
[04:15] <_Temujin> yeah
[04:16] <Entranced> !tell Entranced  about w32codecs
[04:16] <b3nw> doh
[04:16] <apokryphos> b3nw: check what ubotu sent you; you can get them from there.
[04:16] <icarus> hey all, i've got a really dumb question: how do you know what your kernel version is??
[04:16] <b3nw> i did, thanks
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> robertj,  check the wikis and forums for your card perhaps - thers some bug or tweek needed
[04:16] <apokryphos> icarus: uname -r
[04:16] <nalioth> jfarrell: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:16] <b3nw> my other q is, anyone here using xfce?
[04:16] <jfarrell> i am doing that
[04:16] <ericmoritz> hi
[04:16] <jfarrell> and all it saying is that their are unmet depends
[04:16] <dooglus> is it possible to ask apt-get to install a package without its dependancies?  I want "vm" (2 mb) but I don't want all the Emacs stuff that it depends on (46.7 mb)
[04:16] <icarus> apokryphos: thanks man!!!!!
[04:16] <jfarrell> that it will not isntall
[04:16] <Entranced> apokryphos, thnx my man !
[04:16] <apokryphos> jfarrell: can you pastebin the errors?
[04:16] <jfarrell> apokryphos: im on irssi
[04:16] <apokryphos> icarus, Entranced: np :)
[04:16] <ericmoritz> when I shut my laptop lid and I open it, nothing happens, the screen stays blank, any ideas?
[04:17] <jfarrell> wait a moment
[04:17] <FliesLikeABrick> erick,  press a key?
[04:17] <ericmoritz> nope
[04:17] <ericmoritz> tried that :)
[04:17] <wile_coyote> can anyone tell me the Breezy Badger livecd login and password? please?
[04:17] <wile_coyote> ubuntu no worky
[04:17] <virgule> heya! What about a 2.4 kernel for breezy? (you can laugh but this old mac could use a light brain) What could break&smoke if I proceed?
[04:17] <robertj> Dr_Willis: yeah, unfortunately not alot of answers :(
[04:18] <bimberi> ericmoritz: <ctrl><alt>F1   then   <ctrl><alt>F7
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> virgule,  last i heard about someone trying that.. they came back a few hrs later and said they couldent do it.
[04:18] <ericmoritz> bimberi: nope, tried that too
[04:18] <Dreamglider> Ubuntu is so sweet :)
[04:18] <Dreamglider> good night folks
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[04:18] <dooglus> ericmoritz: perhaps it tried to hibernate, but crashed instead?
[04:18] <ericmoritz> dooglus: could be
[04:19] <Eppu> dooglus: try downloading the deb file and using dpkg --ignore-depends -i package.deb
[04:19] <dooglus> ericmoritz: so you might want to disable hibernation (however you do that...)
[04:19] <Eppu> dooglus: use apt-get --print-uris to show the download URL if needed
[04:19] <dooglus> Eppu: thanks.
[04:19] <bimberi> wile_coyote: the livecd logs in automatically.  where are you being asked to login?
[04:19] <Chrisw01> Anyone here help me with ubuntu 5.10 on a iMac G5?
[04:19] <wizatcomp> is there any way to disable "tap to click" on ubuntu for a trackpad?
[04:19] <ericmoritz> I got hoary to work by making it just blank the screen but I can't remember how I did that
[04:19] <wile_coyote> after boot
[04:19] <virgule> thx.. another issue I have: The system 'freeze' when I hold the mouse button down for a little while as well as when I drag a window around.. Whats that?
[04:19] <nalioth> Chrisw01: there is no help for you
[04:19] <budluva> how do i find out my enlightenment version?
[04:19] <niggpie> I've installed a fresh copy of 5.10, however upon boot.. my screen is green/white/black and all I see is my mouse cursor, nothing more. I believe this is a video problem. Any suggestions? (5.04 worked fine)
[04:19] <wile_coyote> it's the i386 version
[04:19] <apokryphos> budluva: dpkg -l|grep enlightenment?
[04:20] <jcmcbeth> Hey, i'm trying to setup ip masquerading, what would be the easiest way to do that? I read on the forums about a ipmasq package, but I don't think it exist anymore.  I already setup a dhcp server.
[04:20] <weob> does that win32codecs deb package work on os x maybe ?
[04:20] <weob> or perhaps there is already a portage
[04:20] <bimberi> wile_coyote: hm, that's not what happens for me.  So I don't know sry
[04:20] <nalioth> weob: heh , no
[04:20] <Chrisw01> nalioth, heh.. thanks.. I normaly run it on Intel, wanted to see what it would do with ppc
[04:20] <weob> oh well
[04:20] <wile_coyote> thanks anyway
[04:20] <nalioth> Chrisw01: the imac G5 will be supported in Dapper Drake
[04:20] <wile_coyote> maybe a rebot is in order
[04:20] <weob> os x has the crappy v 9 player i suppose it works
[04:20] <wile_coyote> laterz
[04:21] <Chrisw01> nalioth, 5.10 doesn't support the G5?
[04:21] <Eppu> jcmbeth: Do you mean ip masquerading specificially or just a NAT in general?
[04:21] <nalioth> Chrisw01: unfortunately for you an me, no.
[04:21] <erick> jcmbeth http://www.bayanihan.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=15 try this site
[04:21] <bimberi> niggpie: try reconfiguring X,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:22] <TFP_> i really like the new release
[04:22] <Yetr2> which file in ubuntu contains the configuration for setting the default text editor?
[04:22] <Chrisw01> nalioth, that blows!
[04:22] <Razor-X> has TOC recently changed around its protocol?
[04:22] <jcmcbeth> I'm not sure what the difference is, I want to use my linux box as a router for my network.
[04:22] <jmain> Are the repositories from ubuntuguide ok for breezy for installing extra apps (mplayer)
[04:22] <niggpie> bimberi I followed instructions to do that on the forums "enter E at boot and then press C for command prompt" but when I enter that command you quote, it says it is unrecognized...
[04:22] <nalioth> Chrisw01: i know. i've been waiting for breezy so i can have ubuntu on MY imac
[04:22] <Razor-X> jcmcbeth: you have to have as many NICs as you have computers that want to connect to the router
[04:22] <Eppu> jcmbeth: Well, how about installing firestarter? It allows you to setup a NAT very easily.
[04:22] <apokryphos> jmain: that guide is a pile of trash -- who knows. Better to go by the wiki
[04:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Razor-X,  no he doesn't what about a switch or hub?
[04:23] <jcmcbeth> I have a switch.
[04:23] <Razor-X> FliesLikeABrick: but it won't be simeltaneous
[04:23] <FliesLikeABrick> ah
[04:23] <Razor-X> a switch isn't a simeltaneous connection, like a router is
[04:23] <ericmoritz> I think I fixed it by just making acpi blank the screen instead of suspending or hibernating, anyone know how to do that?
[04:23] <WinZ> have anybody mounted Gmail account under Ubuntu?
[04:23] <bimberi> niggpie: i don't know about the E and C bit, I'd try <ctrl><alt>F2 when it gets to the blank screen after booting normally, then log in and try it there
[04:23] <nalioth> jmain: the ubuntuguide is very outdated for breezy, please dont use it
[04:23] <Razor-X> which means that two computers on the same switch using BitTorrent aren't going to be happy
[04:23] <Chrisw01> nalioth, so what does the powerpc version work on?
[04:24] <jmain> ok.  I will use the wiki
[04:24] <Razor-X> nalioth: you know, PPC is endangered
[04:24] <FliesLikeABrick> chris-x,  mac ?
[04:24] <nalioth> Chrisw01: mac mini, powermacs, emacs
[04:24] <weob> not so
[04:24] <niggpie> bimberi I don't boot normally. I get green/white/black and a cursor... like the video looks completely morbid.
[04:24] <Chrisw01> nalioth, thats not what the website says..
[04:24] <weob> xbox 360 and ps3 will use ppc
[04:24] <nalioth> Chrisw01: older G4 imacs, powerbooks, ibooks
[04:24] <shadone> hola
[04:24] <_Temujin> can I get w32codecs through apt-get?
[04:24] <Eppu> jcmbeth: A more manual way is to write a small script to run a few iptables commands, put that script in /etc/init.d/ and add some symlinks
[04:24] <Razor-X> nalioth: emacs can run Ubuntu already?
[04:24] <weob> even though it wont be on a mainstream comp - it still exists
[04:24] <niggpie> I somehow have to get to a command prompt before it realeases to the boot..
[04:24] <nalioth> _Temujin: only through ubotu
[04:24] <apokryphos> !tell _Temujin about w32codecs
[04:24] <Versed> I have ubuntu on my g4 450, infact it's upgrading itself right now.
[04:24] <Razor-X> weob: will the processors be actively made?
[04:24] <uboodoo> hi all
[04:24] <nalioth> Razor-X: settle down
[04:24] <rob_p> jcmcbeth:  NAT How-to for Ubuntu -->  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay, so i change every instance of hoary to breezy, apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[04:24] <bimberi> niggpie: yes, then do a <ctrl><alt>F2 to get to a console and login
[04:25] <cdehaan> Good Evening
[04:25] <weob> actively?
[04:25] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: yup
[04:25] <Razor-X> weob: yeah
[04:25] <uboodoo> where do I get the Automatix script?
[04:25] <Chrisw01> nalioth, from the website... Ubuntu is suitable for both desktop and server use. The current Ubuntu release supports PC (Intel x86), 64-bit PC (AMD64) and PowerPC (Apple iBook and Powerbook, G4 and G5) architectures.
[04:25] <apokryphos> BROKEN_LADDER: /topic
[04:25] <cdehaan> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop. I previously used 5.04. However 5.10 will not detect my wireless card
[04:25] <uboodoo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 does not have the link
[04:25] <weob> you mean g4's and g5's?
[04:25] <nalioth> Chrisw01: yes. it works great on my dual G5 powermac
[04:25] <_Temujin> can I get w32codecs through apt-get?
[04:25] <apokryphos> _Temujin: can you read what ubotu sent you?
[04:25] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: update before dist-upgrade
[04:25] <dooglus> Eppu: the command I needed was "sudo dpkg --ignore-depends emacs21 -i vm_7.19-4_all.deb" - thanks for your help.
[04:25] <nalioth> _Temujin: NO YOU CAN NOT
[04:25] <apokryphos> _Temujin: it's not in any of the ubuntu repos
[04:25] <Versed> nalioth do you dual boot it with OSX?
[04:26] <Razor-X> they removed it from the repos?
[04:26] <nomasteryoda|w> should I replace my Ubuntu breezy that was built via upgrade with the CD install? ... is there a difference?
[04:26] <apokryphos> Razor-X: yes
[04:26] <dooglus> nalioth: he could if he could find a repository with it in!
[04:26] <uboodoo> !Automatix
[04:26] <ubotu> uboodoo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:26] <bimberi> _Temujin: or we are all going to prison :)
[04:26] <nalioth> Versed: yes, but OSX doesnt see the light of day too much
[04:26] <Razor-X> apokryphos: about time
[04:26] <Chrisw01> nalioth, thanks for the info..
[04:26] <FliesLikeABrick> nomasteryoda, its ok
[04:26] <Versed> OK
[04:26] <Eppu> dooglus: you're welcome.
[04:26] <FliesLikeABrick> nomasteryoda,  no need to
[04:26] <niggpie> alright I will try that, thx bimberi
[04:26] <nalioth> dooglus: i'm not here to teach folks to add repos
[04:26] <apokryphos> Razor-X: it was removed from multiverse **ages** ago
[04:26] <Versed> I mean I only installed it on an older mac.
[04:26] <bimberi> niggpie: good luck :)
[04:26] <Versed> works fine.
[04:26] <uboodoo> tell uboodoo about Automatix
[04:26] <nalioth> Chrisw01: ##apple is available for further questions
[04:27] <apokryphos> uboodoo: don't forget the bot char ! :)
[04:27] <uboodoo> !tell uboodoo about Automatix
[04:27] <apokryphos> uboodoo: and better to use /msg for investigating :)
[04:27] <navyn> can somebody please help me get my scanner working?
[04:27] <johnny_> i just installed breezy and the monitor is going funny
[04:28] <johnny_> i can see all this fuzz
[04:28] <apokryphos> johnny_: make sure you have the respective drivers installed
[04:28] <uboodoo> anyone knows about Automatix?
[04:28] <apokryphos> johnny_: if the problem persists, consider reconfiguring your X server
[04:28] <Chrisw01> nalioth, thanks...
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> johnny_, do Ctrl+Alt+F3
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> or F1
[04:28] <Entranced> uboodoo, it is sloooow right now
[04:28] <Total_assault> hey, how do you setup wireless network in 5.10? I heard it is now intergrated?
[04:28] <Total_assault> ps i have 64 bit
[04:29] <Concord_Dawn> !breezy
[04:29] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:29] <uboodoo> Entranced do u have the link though?
[04:29] <dooglus> Eppu: now that I've "--ignore-depends"'ed the issue, apt-get is complaining that there's an error.  Can I somehow sooth apt-get?
[04:29] <orangey> what's the difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and synaptic - > smart upgrade ?
[04:29] <Concord_Dawn> yay
[04:29] <Entranced> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[04:29] <johnny_> just changing the res fixed it
[04:29] <johnny_> ok.. now just need to speed it up
[04:29] <apokryphos> orangey: the GUI
[04:29] <nomasteryoda|w> kool
[04:29] <Entranced> johnny_,  W00T!
[04:29] <Eppu> dooglus: apt-get --fix-broken perhaps
[04:29] <orangey> apokryphos: great..
[04:29] <uboodoo> Entranced that link does not have the automatix.tar file
[04:29] <johnny_> any ideas for making it run faster with 128MB ram
[04:29] <navyn> what are sane-backends?
[04:29] <Entranced> it does
[04:29] <johnny_> that's my real question
[04:30] <Entranced> uboodoo, it does
[04:30] <Razor-X> johnny_: Ubuntu itself?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> dooglus: it's always possiblr you actually *needed* the dependencies ;P
[04:30] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell nomasteryoda about automatix
[04:30] <nalioth> johnny_: use xubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <johnny_> hmm.. what's that?
[04:30] <Razor-X> johnny_: you can do a number of things, really
[04:30] <johnny_> i've never heard of that one
[04:30] <Entranced> uboodoo, look to the right of the screenshot
[04:30] <nalioth> johnny_: an ubuntu xfce4 desktop
[04:30] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I don't need them - I've compiled much more recent versions of them from the CVS repository
[04:30] <Razor-X> johnny_: xubuntu is a variant of Ubuntu that uses XFce, a light window manager
[04:30] <uboodoo> Entranced : unless I need a pair of glass I do not see it
[04:30] <johnny_> ahaha xfce
[04:30] <erick> jcmcbeth have you try the link I gave to you
[04:30] <brenner> does anyone have their synaptics touchpad configged?  i've set TapButton1 to 1 in my xorg.conf file, but i'm still getting taps registered as middle-click, rather than left.
[04:30] <DonL> Hi folks
[04:30] <thoreauputic> dooglus: aha I see :)
[04:30] <Razor-X> johnny_: you can use lighter WMs as well
[04:30] <uboodoo> is it at the top?
[04:30] <Razor-X> johnny_: XFce is very nice for its size, though
[04:31] <dooglus> Eppu: --fix-broken's solution is to install the 44Mb of old emacs packages that I don't want...
[04:31] <Entranced> uboodoo, get some glasses pronto!
[04:31] <johnny_> i normally use gentoo.. but installing ubuntu for a friend
[04:31] <uboodoo> hehe
[04:31] <weob> freekiin  freekin
[04:31] <uboodoo> Entranced: Is it at the top?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> dooglus: did you install them with checkinstall? I guess apt doesn't know about them?
[04:31] <Razor-X> johnny_: oh, ok then
[04:31] <Eppu> dooglus: I'm not sure there is a clean way to fix it otherwise. The dependencies are not meant to be ignored, really
[04:31] <johnny_> i'm very intimate with manual configuration of xorg
[04:31] <Entranced> uboodoo, look to the right of the screenshot (first post on the bottom of it) File Type: gz  	automatix-breezy.tar.gz
[04:32] <johnny_> and other linux stuffs
[04:32] <FliesLikeABrick> how do i use md5 to verify my breezy download?
[04:32] <pjstolix> help me with a shuffle ipod
[04:32] <dooglus> thoreauputic: the problem is that GNU Emacs is constantly in development, but never makes a release.  the ubuntu version is very out of date, but it's the newest release.  the only solution is to use the CVS stuff
[04:32] <chris-x> FliesLikeABrick: no mac, why?
[04:32] <Razor-X> johnny_: then you should know the tricks of the trade: WMs, Terminal Emulators, more dependance on console utilities
[04:32] <calc> FliesLikeABrick: md5sum filename
[04:32] <johnny_> md5sum ubuntu.iso
[04:32] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I used dpkg -i --ignore-depends
[04:32] <FliesLikeABrick> chris-x,  didn't mean to highlight you
[04:32] <johnny_> well.. i'd like them to use gnome ;)
[04:32] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I'm assuming apt/dpkg doesn't know about the stuff you compiled
[04:32] <Razor-X> dooglus: yeah, I have to do the same, unfortunately
[04:32] <johnny_> and metacity
[04:32] <Eppu> dooglus: I would not use ignore depends. Just install from source, much cleaner
[04:32] <jcmcbeth> eppu: Where can I get firestarter? I tried "sudo apt-get install firestarter" but it said it couldn't find the package.
[04:32] <dooglus> thoreauputic: it doesn't, no...
[04:32] <johnny_> that's why i'm asking for other ideas
[04:32] <johnny_> cuz gnome is very lovely
[04:32] <johnny_> with metacity
[04:32] <uboodoo> Entranced: I see it now.. I had to slide my browser horizontal scroll bar to the right
[04:32] <pjstolix> /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[04:33] <pjstolix> /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[04:33] <uboodoo> it was hidden
[04:33] <Eppu> jcmcbeth: It's in the universe repository, you need add to the package manager.
[04:33] <pjstolix> /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[04:33] <thoreauputic> dooglus: that's why I mentioned checkinstall
[04:33] <pjstolix> /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[04:33] <pjstolix> plz help
[04:33] <uboodoo> Entranced: thanks
[04:33] <DonL> johnny_, yes gnome is pretty
[04:33] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I'll take a look, thanks
[04:33] <Razor-X> pjstolix: don't paste something in here three times
[04:33] <thoreauputic> !checkinstall
[04:33] <jmain> still can't seem to find the mplayer debs in the repositories.
[04:33] <ubotu> well, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:33] <pjstolix> sorry
[04:33] <Razor-X> pjstolix: if someone can help you, they will, just wait
[04:33] <thoreauputic> bah
[04:33] <_Temujin> ok... Here's an easy one.  After I download a .deb file, how do I install it :)
[04:33] <thoreauputic> !info checkinstall
[04:33] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[04:33] <apokryphos> pjstolix: quit flooding
[04:33] <Entranced> uboodoo, np...be aware it takes forever!
[04:33] <pjstolix> yea yea
[04:33] <pjstolix> sorry
[04:33] <Razor-X> ubotu: don't paste in here :P
[04:33] <ubotu> Razor-X: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> gak nalioth twas not I that asked ... ubotu
[04:34] <synackuator> so who's on breezy
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> me
[04:34] <Concord_Dawn> there any official torrents for the ISOs?
[04:34] <b3nw> < :)
[04:34] <FliesLikeABrick> yes Concord_Dawn
[04:34] <johnny_> i'm on breezy ..
[04:34] <FliesLikeABrick> Concord_Dawn,  http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/5.10/
[04:34] <thoreauputic> !lart Razor-X
[04:34] <DonL> I have a wee problem.. crashed my system going from Hoary to Breezy, started back with Warty, updated to Hoary, and now can't remember how to configure nvidia glx
[04:34] <Razor-X> how many Breezy fanboys and fangirls are in the house? :P
[04:34] <johnny_> with amd k6 500mhz
[04:34] <thoreauputic> :D
[04:34] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: don't even start that :P
[04:34] <_Temujin> I am.  First Debian based try...
[04:34] <flodine> 5.04
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> been that way for month. =D
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: heheh
[04:34] <synackuator> so can u upgrade from hoary without whiping everything?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> yup
[04:35] <FliesLikeABrick> if my md5 is correct but my install media is corrupt, it had to be a bad burn, right?
[04:35] <Razor-X> synackuator: of course
[04:35] <johnny_> i can't wait for modular X to appear..
[04:35] <Concord_Dawn> FliesLikeABrick: That site keeps timing out for me.
[04:35] <wizatcomp> is it possible to disable the "tap to click" with a trackpad on a laptop?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> FliesLikeABrick,  yea that would be my guess
[04:35] <johnny_> wizatcomp, it is possible .. i just don't personally know how ..
[04:35] <Entranced> DonL, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> wizatcomp,  yes - should be doablbe by editing the xorg.conf
[04:35] <wizatcomp> ok
[04:35] <Entranced> DonL, that worked for me
[04:35] <synackuator> Razor-X: just run the regular install CD?  will I lose any confs / drivers / etc?
[04:35] <FliesLikeABrick> Concord_Dawn, just look at the ubuntu download site and it has official torrents
[04:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> holy god..the following will be upgrade...ZOING!!
[04:35] <FliesLikeABrick> very quick ones i might add
[04:35] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:35] <Razor-X> !tell synackuator about breezy
[04:35] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah BROKEN_LADDER  lol
[04:35] <wizatcomp> Dr_Willis - thank you
[04:35] <Concord_Dawn> FliesLikeABrick, I can't find them.
[04:36] <DonL> Entranced, thank you. Much appreciated. Had it working before but don't know where I got the info
[04:36] <apokryphos> !tell Entranced about ubuntuguide
[04:36] <johnny_> hmm.. how come sans is default instead of bitstream vera sans?
[04:36] <Entranced> apokryphos, I know :)
[04:36] <brenner> wizatcomp: i'm working out how to get it to left-click and not middle-click :-/
[04:36] <Entranced> apokryphos, it works for nvidia just fine
[04:36] <synackuator> Razor-X: thx
[04:36] <wizatcomp> brenner, that's a problem =/
[04:36] <_Temujin> !tell _Temujin about w32codecs
[04:36] <apokryphos> Entranced: so? Doesn't justify its recommendation 8)
[04:36] <brenner> wizatcomp: is your's a synaptics touchpad?
[04:36] <wizatcomp> brenner, no
[04:36] <Octane> ever since i installed breezy when I boot alsa starts twice
[04:36] <wizatcomp> i'm using a powerbook
[04:37] <Octane> "card 1 and card 2"
[04:37] <Entranced> apokryphos, agreed
[04:37] <mojo> Question - If I have my internet on eth1 and roomie on eth0 (w/ dhcp3d), and want to set up another roomie on eth2, how do I do that?  I used Firestarter to set up the ipmasq for eth1 and it has no tertiary interface config in Firestarter.  Thx!
[04:37] <bimberi> yay, synaptics in correct context :)
[04:37] <Eppu> johnny_: sans is usually alias for bitstream vera sans, check /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
[04:37] <DonL> Entranced, I'm going to try that now. Bye for now
[04:37] <Entranced> hehe
[04:37] <johnny_> aha.. i can see that now..
[04:37] <_Temujin> !tell _Temujin about deb
[04:37] <johnny_> argh.. why must somebody steal my nick..
[04:37] <_Temujin> !tell _Temujin about .deb
[04:37] <wizatcomp> mmm
[04:37] <wizatcomp> brb
[04:37] <rob_p> mojo:  Either use a switch (the easiest), or write your own iptables rules.
[04:38] <b3nw> does anyone know what the "Terminal Server Client" package is?
[04:38] <weob> that win32 codecs not downloading - is the tracker /   seeds down?
[04:38] <_Temujin> !tell
[04:38] <_Temujin> 10KB/s for me...
[04:38] <Entranced> b3nw, It allows you to connect to Winblows Terminal services
[04:38] <b3nw> no
[04:38] <b3nw> the package name
[04:38] <mojo> rob_p: do i man iptables to learn how?
[04:38] <Ravensky> err...umm...when I installed phpbb and wordpress through Adept, where'd it put them?
[04:38] <b3nw> i know what it does :)
[04:38] <nalioth> weob: i've got several leeches showing on my seed(s)
[04:38] <johnny> you also need to enable ip_forward
[04:39] <weob> oh ok now its downloading - a breezy 2.2k down
[04:39] <Entranced> b3nw, tsclient
[04:39] <johnny> i got breezy fastest from canadian mirror
[04:39] <b3nw> bittorrent starts slow and gains
[04:39] <rob_p> mojo:  That would be a start... be prepared to spend some serious time with it though.
[04:39] <weob> at least i can watch wmv by tomorrow ; )
[04:39] <b3nw> Entranced - ty! :)
[04:39] <Entranced> b3nw, be more specific when asking :) hehe
[04:39] <mojo> i didn't set up the route and network by hand.  now i see i should have so i learned the manual steps
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> johnny, me too
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> fast
[04:39] <jrattner1> johnny, send me the mirror
[04:39] <b3nw> sorry, trying to patch the program into xfce4 without getting lots of gnome baggaeg
[04:39] <foxiness> hi
[04:39] <b3nw> baggage
[04:39] <James686> anyone here know how the hell I can set up Ubuntu to detect my wireless Linksys Network-G network card?
[04:40] <foxiness> goodmorning
[04:40] <felon> hi
[04:40] <jrattner1> im getting 16 KB/s from bittorrent now
[04:40] <foxiness> is there a differnet butween installing ubuntu-desktop before or after doing upgrade?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell James686 about ndiswrapper
[04:40] <jrattner1> James686, ndiswrappers
[04:40] <apokryphos> foxiness: yes. You shouldn't upgrade without it.
[04:40] <apokryphos> foxiness: see /topic
[04:40] <felon> do i need to reformat before i install ubuntu?
[04:40] <felon> or will it do it for me
[04:41] <apokryphos> felon: /topic
[04:41] <vertigo> you can have it do it
[04:41] <jrattner1> johnny, ?
[04:41] <annex> felon: You can have the installer format/partition etc.
[04:41] <johnny> it's on the mirror list
[04:41] <mojo> rob_p: thx
[04:41] <felon> i have the iso
[04:42] <jrattner1> johnny, which one
[04:42] <johnny> the first one?
[04:42] <johnny> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:42] <foxiness> apokryphos, i read the note before the page get update "what the install ubuntu-desktop last one" and i read it now after the change and it on the first step what should i do ?
[04:42] <FliesLikeABrick> johnm,  apt-key update
[04:42] <johnny> stupid xchat autocomplete :)
[04:42] <nalioth> FliesLikeABrick: actually it's 'hammered server syndrome'
[04:42] <rob_p> mojo:  Good luck with it!
[04:42] <apokryphos> foxgamer: never upgrade without it, as it says :)
[04:42] <malveria1> What's the best way to update from Hoary (completely up to date) to Breezy? Just edit my sources list?
[04:42] <johnny> i know.. but i'm not setting this up for me.. i'm setting this up for newbs :)
[04:43] <James686> and then, how can I setup the installation CD to recognize my Nvidia GeforeFX 5500 video card?
[04:43] <apokryphos> malveria1: /topic
[04:43] <nalioth> johnny: are you completing your apt-get updates cleanly?
[04:43] <johnny> i just installed :)
[04:43] <foxiness> apokryphos, am upgrade from 5.04 to breezy-rc
[04:43] <weob> well which one are you using= hoary or breezy?
[04:43] <weob> but should be the same
[04:43] <foxgamer> apokryphos: eh? lol
[04:43] <jrattner1> johnny, was it in the main folder?
[04:43] <johnny> i just don't know the specific ins and outs of ubuntu
[04:43] <malveria1> apokryphos: Thanka.
[04:43] <apokryphos> foxiness: I think you mean breezy official; not rc :P
[04:43] <weob> as long as nvidia-glx is installed it should be working
[04:43] <brenner> felon: use the iso to create a CD, then follow the "breezy cd and synaptic" instructions
[04:44] <James686> how do I install it?
[04:44] <weob> open synaptic package manager
[04:44] <felon> brenner
[04:44] <foxiness> apokryphos, is there a diff ?
[04:44] <felon> where are the instructions
[04:44] <mojo> rob_p: thx.  i was hopin to spin up ubuntu on this extra box w/o having to down this box's internet connection.  but i will probl just futz with the iptables after i get that box up.  i won't actually need-need the eth2 inf routing set up for a few weeks.
[04:44] <James686> ummm, how do I do that? lol
[04:44] <johnny> where did the terminal option go?
[04:44] <sinbox> hi
[04:44] <brenner> felon: on the wiki page in the topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:44] <weob> should be in the menus
[04:44] <johnny> oh.. it moved
[04:44] <foxiness> apokryphos, butween the RC and the Official one ?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> johnny,  i wanted to know that too
[04:44] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[04:44] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[04:44] <apokryphos> foxiness: you can't upgrade to RC anyway unless you have the RC cd
[04:44] <weob> im in kde right now but in gnome it seasy to find
[04:44] <johnny> there is no root term option
[04:44] <apokryphos> foxiness: bugfixes, final tweaks etc etc
[04:44] <johnny> anymore
[04:44] <anathema_> anyone here know if there is a cpu temp monitoring tool in linux? (preferably in apt?)
[04:44] <felon> THANKS
[04:44] <weob> its called sudo
[04:45] <brenner> felon: that *should* keep all your stuff intact...not 100% sure though
[04:45] <johnny> yeah.. it just changed that's all
[04:45] <synackuator> wow i think my sources list is gonna screw up my system
[04:45] <felon> ???
[04:45] <felon> idk
[04:45] <rob_p> mojo:  Any reason you insist on using separate interfaces?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> johnny: for  a root shell just type  sudo -i
[04:45] <James686> I cant get to the desktop because it says somethin like the X server could not continue because it appears I dont have any displays or whatever...
[04:45] <johnny> i had setup hoary for somebody else
[04:45] <synackuator> shouldn't you be able to change all hoarys to breezys?
[04:45] <sinbox> quick question: what are the minimum specs to runn a live CD?  I have PII 200Mhz with 64Meg of ram, will it work?
[04:45] <weob> sources list will not screw it up
[04:45] <apokryphos> synackuator: er, why?
[04:45] <weob> will only fail to connect
[04:45] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[04:45] <ericmoritz> should synaptic ask to upgrade 345 packages after upgrading with the cd?
[04:45] <apokryphos> synackuator: /topic
[04:45] <foxiness> apokryphos, i mean diff on install ubuntu-desktop on first or on last step on do the upgrade
[04:45] <thoreauputic> sinbox: I doubt it
[04:45] <Eppu> anathema: lm-sensors is the backend and there are several frontends
[04:45] <jrattner1> Where in FTP are iso images located? in main or multiverse or universe
[04:46] <James686> lol...sinbox...thats kinda...wow...sad...
[04:46] <mojo> rob_p: but it will be worth going thru the manual steps, give me sumthin to play with after spinnin this friends box.  he is very end-user but curious and wants to try linux on sys with win2k dual boot.  his intersts are more for his business plans than games anyway.  ;)
[04:46] <sinbox> oki thanks thoreauputic
[04:46] <apokryphos> foxiness: have you not read the link? :) Dist-upgrade needs ubuntu-desktop to appropriately determine the packages to keep/install
[04:46] <synackuator> apokryphos: o thanks
[04:46] <thoreauputic> sinbox: although a server install with xubuntu-desktop or icewm or fluxbox would run
[04:46] <sinbox> thansk to you too james
[04:46] <rob_p> mojo:  I mean, there are legitimate reasons for such thing, but not for most applications.
[04:46] <James686> why do you have a computer thats so low on...well, everything?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> sinbox: I have hoary running on a 200 mmx with 64MB RAM
[04:46] <sinbox> ask my neighbours to put better stuff in their rubbish bins
[04:46] <James686> lmao I see
[04:46] <thoreauputic> James686: old boxes can be useful
[04:47] <James686> yeah I didnt mean to sound harsh or anything man
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> sinbox, you need to check local computer store rubbish bins
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> really
[04:47] <thoreauputic> James686: *cough* have you headof remote X or NX ?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> i have 6 boxes that were assembled from that stuff
[04:47] <rob_p> mojo:  My advice would be to download someone else's NAT firewall script and then hack it to support NAT for a third interface.  Anyway, as I said... good luck with it!
[04:47] <James686> no...Im new to Linux lol
[04:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> i have some .deb downloaded from synaptic....but i cant install all of them ina rapid way, always need package dependence....
[04:47] <sinbox> well, that is gonna be my first try at linux so I thought I'd try the live CD to get an idea first, soon as I have smoothwall runing on the other box
[04:47] <brenner> jrattner1: follow the links on the official site
[04:48] <jcmcbeth> Alright, I have installed firestarter! now, where can I find it?
[04:48] <James686> cant get any Linux OS's burned properly and ran on my computer...
[04:48] <synackuator> umm, does 12,000 packages to be updated sound high to anyone??
[04:48] <mojo> rob_p: yeah.  i happen to have two ether ports on my mobo and a pci net card right here.  we have cable net, but no money to get a router just now. or switch.  yeah there cheap but i want to get a linksys wireless g router to share cablenet with the neighbors, and that's a few more bucks.  my roomie is set up off my eth0 and cablemodem on eth1.  i am firewall and router here.
[04:48] <anethema> anyone here know if there is a cpu temp monitoring tool in linux? (preferably in apt?)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> James686: my 200 mmx runs all my programs remotely from  a server - cheap thin client
[04:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i install a lot of packages at once? what is the better way?
[04:48] <Eppu> jcmcbeth: It should be in Applications->Internet or System Tools
[04:48] <latino> anethema:karamba?
[04:48] <brenner> Aragorn_Guardian: what are you installing?
[04:48] <linuxbomb> synackuator, yes
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> anethema, lm_sensors
[04:48] <rob_p> mojo:  I see.  Well, have fun.
[04:48] <nalioth> anethema: conky
[04:48] <mojo> rob_p: the linksys has also been hacked with linux so i will get to play with that too and learn fun stuff
[04:49] <foxiness> apokryphos, thank you
[04:49] <anethema> lm_sensors eh..is it a bin?
[04:49] <sinbox> thanks all, I'll be off now, keep good see you around
[04:49] <Eppu> anethema: lm-sensors is the backend and there are several frontends (xsensors for example)
[04:49] <anethema> conky? i will look
[04:49] <anethema> ok
[04:49] <synackuator> linuxbomb: 13hrs remaining
[04:49] <brenner> Aragorn_Guardian: you should use the repos if you can rather than manually using deb files
[04:49] <nalioth> anethema: lm_sensors + conky
[04:49] <mojo> rob_p: thanks, i will.  peace
[04:49] <nomasteryoda|w> synackuator, lol
[04:49] <nomasteryoda|w> conky ...cool
[04:49] <James686> so how can I get Ubuntu to detect my graphics card as I said before?
[04:49] <reiki> woo-hoo! I'm at 28% !!! (yawn)
[04:49] <anethema> ok installing
[04:49] <anethema> thanks again guys :)
[04:49] <synackuator> i think i'll wait until next week or so to upgrade
[04:50] <nalioth> synackuator: perhaps a month or two (so the nasty bugs that pop up can be squashed)
[04:50] <brenner> James686: did you try reconfigging xorg?
[04:50] <nomasteryoda|w> synackuator, reallY? I just got cd dl in about 35 min
[04:51] <synackuator> nalioth: nasty bugs? wow that sounds encouraging
[04:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> brenner, so i can make a repository from that deb filkes, is that?
[04:51] <James686> is there a way I can use the advanced configuration on the Installation CD thats just like the configuration when you type in live-expert on the LiveCD?
[04:51] <nalioth> synackuator: you know what i mean
[04:51] <reiki> nalioth: don't be talkin about no bugs.... /me makes the hex sign in nalioth's general direction ... I'm COUNTING on this being a nice upgrade :)
[04:51] <anethema> nalioth: conky draws onto my desktop background...covered in icons
[04:51] <anethema> can you get a window or somehting ?
[04:51] <brenner> Aragorn_Guardian: er, no....i mean, try and find the apps you need in the repo
[04:51] <nalioth> anethema: it is meant to be eye candy
[04:51] <tty2> hello, while installation ubuntu tried to install lilo, how can i select grub to beinstallen
[04:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> ok, i did this...I downloded 200Mb...
[04:51] <nomasteryoda|w> anethema, how about gkrellm ?
[04:51] <nalioth> anethema: if you visit conky.sourceforge.net you can learn more about how to manipulate it
[04:52] <synackuator> nomasteryoda: my burner broke and i'm too lazy to go get another one
[04:52] <James686> well?
[04:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna replicate for all others stations here...how could I?
[04:52] <nalioth> nomasteryoda|w: conky is more advance, if you havent used it b4
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> nalioth, cool
[04:52] <brenner> James686: there's an expert install...not sure how close it is to the live-cd thing
[04:52] <jcmcbeth> Eppu: I got it working thanks!
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> will try
[04:52] <ironuckles> hello
[04:52] <James686> well how do I get to it?
[04:52] <Eppu> jcmcbeth: no problem
[04:52] <nalioth> nomasteryoda|w: visit conky.sf.net and check it out
[04:53] <lui> I was downloading the breezy live cd and then it was done but the size is 292.8MB it is rigth!?
[04:53] <johnny> what's a good cd burner proggy to use
[04:53] <johnny> ubuntu livecds are not full enough
[04:53] <lui> I was downloading the breezy live cd and then it was done but the size is 292.8MB it is right!??
[04:53] <johnny> :(
[04:53] <brenner> James686: when you boot off the cd, it tells you the command to use
[04:53] <nomasteryoda|w> nalioth, on there now
[04:53] <anethema> ok thanks nalioth..it reports cpu temp as 0c though
[04:53] <anethema> doh
[04:53] <nomasteryoda|w> sweet
[04:53] <reiki> I think I'm gonna go to bed and let this update itself
[04:53] <johnny> the livecd for hoary was 400mb
[04:53] <johnny> ~
[04:53] <linuxbomb> johnny, k3b
[04:53] <niggpie> I've just installed a fresh copy of 5.10, but upon booting into Ubuntu, all I saw was a green/white/black pile of rubbish... suspecting video to be the cause of concern. I was told to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" which I had done.. tried all different configurations.. but now all I get is a black screen yet... I can see my cursor and move it around. Any ideas?? I'm new to Ubuntu, please help!
[04:53] <nalioth> anethema: that's a lm_sensor issue
[04:53] <pioneer> anyone know of any link or such where i might still get the w32codecs?
[04:54] <johnny> pioneer, google it
[04:54] <lui> I see that a little strange
[04:54] <_Temujin> !tell me about debian package
[04:54] <johnny> sorry .. but trying to get it is puts people in a bind
[04:54] <apokryphos> !tell pioneer about w32codecs
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> niggpie, check your vsync and lsync in xorg.conf?
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> for your display
[04:54] <anethema> ok no idea how to fix that nalioth , ill do some reading
[04:54] <tty2> hello, while installation ubuntu tried to install lilo, how can i select grub to be installend
[04:54] <ironuckles> I'm not able to get some of the backport servers for synaptic. Anyone know why?
[04:54] <pioneer> johnny, brilliant, gee i never thought of that
[04:54] <brenner> niggpie: so now you don't get the garbage, just a black screen?
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> ironuckles, they're really busy
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> ironuckles,  look at the topi
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> topic*
[04:54] <_Temujin> ok... I downloaded the win32codecs debian package.  How do I install?
[04:54] <niggpie> just black screen w/ mouse cursor
[04:54] <apokryphos> pioneer: read what ubotu sent you
[04:55] <pioneer> ty
[04:55] <FliesLikeABrick> _Temujin, dpkg -i path/to/package
[04:55] <brenner> niggpie: ok, try and use the vesa driver for your video
[04:55] <FlyingSquirrel32> I set up a mysql server when I tried to install myth, but now I an't remeber the passwd. How can I reset the password
[04:55] <ironuckles> FliesLikeABrick, thanks
[04:55] <johnny> !tell johnny about w32codecs
[04:55] <brenner> niggpie: boot into recovery mode
[04:55] <glick> why does every few seconds my mouse freeze for a second
[04:55] <johnny> i can't believe that there still is no decent gtk based cd burning program!
[04:55] <glick> ever since i upgraded to breezy
[04:56] <glick> breezy = freezy
[04:56] <Orborde> I need some helpage. I just rearranged my hard drive, adding a separate partition for /home, copying everything there, and mounting it in. Now, it appears that fglrx broke because of it.
[04:56] <brenner> johnny: gnomebaker?
[04:56] <bimberi> niggpie: <ctrl><alt>F2 doesn't work?
[04:56] <brenner> johnny: nautilus? :)
[04:56] <johnny> brenner, would you really consider it a replacement for k3b?
[04:56] <foxiness> if i installed sl-modem-source + sl-modem-daemon ,than did i need more step than that before i do restart "after i finish upgrade"?
[04:56] <johnny> k3b makes me as happy as nero
[04:56] <FliesLikeABrick> k3b is win
[04:56] <Orborde> Okay, did anyone see that comment of mine a moment ago? X chose that moment to die.
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> there's not anything that is good as k3b
[04:56] <niggpie> nope, ctrl alt F2 didn't get me anywhere... still see black
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> period
[04:56] <johnny> k3b is what?
[04:56] <bimberi> nautilus is fine for data cd's and isos
[04:56] <Orborde> Or rather, xchat did...
[04:57] <ubuntuguy> anyone: is there anyway to watch Apple's quicktime movie trailers from Ubuntu?
[04:57] <niggpie> I used recovery mode to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:57] <johnny> sure bimberi .. but i like my stuff to be autoconverted
[04:57] <Orborde> ubuntuguy: Did you get all the shiny codec files installed?
[04:57] <nalioth> ubuntuguy: install libquicktime and mplayer mozilla plugin
[04:57] <bimberi> johnny: riiiight
[04:57] <niggpie> Could it be a driver related issue? I've never upgraded a driver in Linux before... difficult?
[04:57] <total_assault> hey
[04:58] <hondje> niggpie: it's not as easy as you'd think :)
[04:58] <niggpie> :(
[04:58] <hondje> depends on what module though
[04:58] <total_assault> how does one setup a broadcom wireless network card on 5.10 x86-64?
[04:58] <ubuntuguy> Orborde: no
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> ubuntuguy, that last one is the kicker... restart firefox afterward....
[04:58] <niggpie> ATI 9200SE
[04:58] <hondje> oh, that's easy
[04:58] <_maydayj_> total_assault - ndiswrapper
[04:58] <chiddy> anyone in here using and Intel Wireless 2200 connection????
[04:58] <ubuntuguy> nalioth: thanks, I'll try that
[04:58] <johnny> uggh.. i feel sorry for those who have to use ndiswrapper
[04:58] <jrattner1> is it worth it to put /home on its own partition and if so can i configure this at installation time?
[04:59] <johnny> i use ipw2100 easily
[04:59] <jrattner1> johnny, its terrible
[04:59] <johnny> ipw2200 drivers should be nearly as good
[04:59] <total_assault> is there a how to for ubuntu on it, cause i wasted around 5 hrs with it and fedora core with no sucess
[04:59] <hondje> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx should do it for you
[04:59] <glick> could my mouse be freezing cause of acpi?
[04:59] <Amaranth> jrattner1: Yes and yes.
[04:59] <johnny> glick, possible, but unlikely
[04:59] <nalioth> jrattner1: personal preference and yes
[04:59] <chiddy> i'm using ipw2200 and get this after some time in dmesg using breezy: [4297864.742000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[04:59] <jrattner1> Amaranth, can i ever resize it if i want
[04:59] <jrattner1> Amaranth, after installation time
[04:59] <glick> johnny, i cant think why else it would be doing that
[05:00] <total_assault> o btw thanks guys for before with xine, now i can watch my eurotrip :)
[05:00] <jrattner1> Amaranth, later down the road...
[05:00] <Amaranth> jrattner1: Shouldn't be a problem but I've never done it. 5GB for / and the rest for /home should be good though.
[05:00] <Earthen> glick: I just got here what problem are you having with your mouse, cause i'm having a problem with mine also
[05:00] <SPCcrow> !info links
[05:00] <ubotu> links: (Character mode WWW browser), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 375 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[05:00] <glick> Earthen, it just freezes for a secod every few seconds
[05:00] <SPCcrow> !info lynx
[05:00] <ubotu> lynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB
[05:00] <jrattner1> Amaranth, yeh, i was going to do that or put all my music on a seperate partition
[05:00] <glick> especially when i open a window or something
[05:01] <glick> its totally annoying
[05:01] <niggpie> honje: thx!! I will try that :)
[05:01] <niggpie> brb
[05:01] <mahangu> war driving programme for linux?
[05:01] <steph> is there a issue with breezy and cdrecord on an ide drive? or is it just me?
[05:02] <johnny> mahangu, kismet
[05:02] <wizatmac> mahangu: kismet
[05:02] <Earthen> glick: ok not my problem yours is probably some program useing up too much CPU I had a simmilar problem when i installed 3d desktop
[05:02] <johnny> but you can't use it with nidiswrapper afaik
[05:02] <johnny> mahangu, make sure your driver supports monitor mode
[05:02] <mahangu> thanks guys
[05:02] <mahangu> i dont need to
[05:02] <johnny> aka rfmon
[05:02] <mahangu> run rfmon?
[05:02] <weob> ru roh - i found another error in breeezy >: )
[05:02] <johnny> no.. your driver needs to support it
[05:02] <apokryphos> weob: lies! There are none!
[05:02] <johnny> the kismet webpage mentions it
[05:02] <mahangu> how do i check?
[05:03] <johnny> what kinda card?
[05:03] <utnubu> does anyone know iceman?
[05:03] <weob> running firefox - alert - the file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found. please check the location and try again- ha!
[05:03] <mahangu> johnny, my vga?
[05:03] <Earthen> glick: have you installed anything just before this started
[05:03] <johnny> no
[05:03] <johnny> the wireless
[05:04] <mahangu> ah, t42 wifi, i think its BG2200?
[05:04] <mahangu> ubuntu finds it
[05:04] <FliesLikeABrick> t42 does so awesome with linux
[05:04] <glick> no i just upgraded from hoary to breezy
[05:04] <TylerDurden> can somsone explain to me why ubuntu is so choppy? i have a celeron 2.5, 768 ram and an ati 9200. but it feels as if i have 64 mb ram. i mean i open something and it takes 3 seconds to make the drum sound
[05:04] <speel> Anybody having problems with the spca5xx driver?
[05:04] <cfh_dev> Is there a way I can switch to kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop on an already running system?
[05:04] <glick> Earthen,  no i just upgraded from hoary to breezy
[05:04] <johnny> hmm.. oh yeah.. i forgot to test sound
[05:04] <felon> hnmm
[05:04] <zojak> what is better for a linux noob, kde or gnome?
[05:04] <johnny> gnome imo
[05:04] <weob> kde for sure
[05:04] <johnny> lol
[05:04] <modzero> gnome is simpler for noobs
[05:04] <felon> gnome
[05:05] <b3nw> lol
[05:05] <cfh_dev> linux noob from what OS?
[05:05] <FliesLikeABrick> how can i find out what wireless adapter i have in my system?
[05:05] <weob> if you say so
[05:05] <Versedtoo> gnome, it's cleaner and seems less choopy
[05:05] <zojak> windows
[05:05] <speel> zojak, you have to try both to know for your self :P
[05:05] <dooglus> thoreauputic: "checkinstall" was exactly what I needed.  thank you for your help!
[05:05] <johnny> actually kde seems less choppy
[05:05] <cfh_dev> kde is more like windows
[05:05] <modzero> any id say
[05:05] <weob> kde IS less choppy
[05:05] <mister_roboto> how the hell is kde hard though?   it's even closer to windows
[05:05] <apokryphos> kde is less like windows
[05:05] <thudfoo> kde rox
[05:05] <Earthen> glick: ok check your system monitor and take a look at your cpu usage see if it look like a heart beat
[05:05] <modzero> there both simple
[05:05] <johnny> lol
[05:05] <apokryphos> !start a desktop war
[05:05] <ubotu> fluxbox is much better than xfce!
[05:05] <mahangu> FliesLikeABrick, you run breezy on your t42?
[05:05] <modzero> compared to a command line
[05:05] <robotgeek> FliesLikeABrick: you can get all the info by using the command, lspci in a terminal
[05:05] <johnny> lspci!
[05:05] <johnny> hehe
[05:05] <apokryphos> .......and for more discussion, #ubuntu-offtopic is waiting for you guys :)
[05:05] <Earthen> glick: ie spiking every few seconds
[05:05] <FliesLikeABrick> mine is atheros for t42
[05:06] <zojak> the only difference between ubuntu and kubunti is gnome and kde right?
[05:06] <FliesLikeABrick> mahangu,  i have hoary on it now
[05:06] <glick> Earthen, where am i looking for all this?
[05:06] <johnny> how can i find out how much ram the video card has?
[05:06] <apokryphos> zojak: yah
[05:06] <cfh_dev> zojak, pretty much.  There are other subtlelies
[05:06] <modzero> read the box
[05:06] <johnny> i forgot..
[05:06] <FliesLikeABrick> mahangu, im testing breezy on my desktop and upgrading my laptop soon
[05:06] <mahangu> FliesLikeABrick, heh, try breezy and let me know if it works :P
[05:06] <johnny> it's onboard
[05:06] <johnny> it's not my computer..
[05:06] <mahangu> FliesLikeABrick, sure let me know then? :)
[05:06] <FliesLikeABrick> mahangu,  my friend uses it and it works fine
[05:06] <johnny> i know how much my laptop has :)
[05:06] <johnny> my gentoo laptop..
[05:06] <weob> i bet that error happened cuz i installed kubuntu desktop
[05:06] <modzero> johnny go to your bios it would tell you as its most likely shared memory
[05:06] <mahangu> FliesLikeABrick, when you upgrade to breezy via apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:06] <weob> on top of ubuntu
[05:06] <mahangu> how does it work after that?
[05:07] <mahangu> just reboot is it?
[05:07] <weob> cuz firefox worked before with that page
[05:07] <foxiness> zojak if kde simple than gnome , i think you must use somthing else than ubuntu
[05:07] <FliesLikeABrick> mahangu,  idk, my friend seems to be fine with it
[05:07] <Versedtoo> I installed ubuntu then the kubuntu desktop.
[05:07] <Earthen> glick:  well on mine it is under Applications->system tools->system monitor
[05:07] <utnubu> hey, if anyone knows iceman: please tell him that installation with "hotplug=off" does not work. It is an horror. I dont know how to finishthe install cleanly. Manually removing /etc/init.d/hotplug makes it a difficult to use system, otherwise kernel panics come.
[05:07] <mister_roboto> mahangu: breezy on my laptop broke click-drag with the touchpad.  and hibernate/suspend still doesn't work
[05:07] <niggpie> hondje forgot I'm on wireless... no wired. Is there an alternative to apt-get?
[05:07] <Earthen> glick: but i'm not in breezy
[05:07] <mahangu> mister_roboto, whats the lappy
[05:07] <hondje> niggpie: it should be on the CD
[05:07] <weob> no errors poped up with firefox?
[05:07] <Versedtoo> but 90% of the time I run gnome
[05:07] <weob> or you probably changed the homepage
[05:07] <mister_roboto> dell inspiron 8200
[05:08] <johnny> i have the 8600.. runs great :)
[05:08] <mister_roboto> mahangu: click-drag worked in hoary
[05:08] <weob> firefox works - that file no longer exists for some reason
[05:08] <mister_roboto> mahangu: i checked the bug page, it's already there
[05:08] <mahangu> ah
[05:08] <axeus> Ah crap: What would I open a .7z file with?
[05:08] <johnny> argh.. there's definitely a noticable repaint here..
[05:08] <mahangu> ill stay away then fornow
[05:08] <axeus> It's some sort of compressed file.
[05:08] <johnny> axeus, 7zip
[05:08] <mahangu> axeus, 7zip
[05:08] <mahangu> johnny, sorry, damn lag :)
[05:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:09] <johnny> world hello
[05:09] <glick> Earthen, yah it seems to spike
[05:09] <EnsignRedshirt> ...coming to you live from a shiny new breezy install...
[05:09] <johnny> same here ..
[05:09] <niggpie> hondje how would I go about installing it from CD? sorry i'm quite the noob
[05:09] <stevenj> me to, breezy
[05:09] <johnny> niggpie, it should be automatic
[05:09] <modzero> how is breezy? i havent moved yet from 5.04
[05:10] <johnny> unless you removed it from your sources.list
[05:10] <latino> the livecd is very ice candy
[05:10] <Entranced> modzero, it Pwnz
[05:10] <szoth> wanting to share my already downloaded iso via bittorrent I went to download breezy and found a 404 error on http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[05:10] <cfh_dev> I see the update picking up several xwindows driver packages that I don't use.  Can I safely remove them without breaking something?
[05:10] <szoth> who might I report that too
[05:10] <nalioth> modzero: nothing to get in a hurry over, this isnt windows
[05:10] <modzero> yep
[05:10] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: I've only have about 85 seconds of experience with breezy, but so far, so good.
[05:10] <disasm> are the packages the same on different servers? I find fr is smoking fast and us is usually generally slow
[05:10] <Cosine> hey i don't have sound, lspci shows an ensoniq device but i'm using a creative sound card, any ideas?
[05:10] <modzero> do they have their own servers yet? lol
[05:10] <stevenj> what repo is msttcorefonts and nvidia driver from?
[05:11] <nalioth> !info msttcorefonts
[05:11] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[05:11] <lui> coming back to the discussion like 50 lines up, I see kde with a lot of great features gnome should have but also with a little less elegance and a little "eye filler"
[05:11] <nalioth> stevenj: the great multiverse
[05:11] <johnny> stupid gnome copy paste...
[05:11] <felon> anyone use xchat with ubuntu?
[05:11] <felon> or bitchx?
[05:11] <johnny> if you close the app you copied from..
[05:11] <meepus> hello
[05:11] <Earthen> glick: ok now click on Processes tab and see what it is
[05:11] <modzero> ummm
[05:11] <johnny> i'm using xchat right now
[05:11] <weob> xchat
[05:11] <niggpie> soo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx should source it right from CD before trying the web?
[05:11] <lui> latino, how many MB have the live cd?
[05:11] <modzero> xchat here
[05:11] <stevenj> nalioth, I see...well I was kinda nervous about enabling that one because backports or something is mixed in with it
[05:11] <weob> i use xchat for irc  its the only thing i use
[05:12] <johnny> niggpie, yes
[05:12] <cfh_dev> Cosine, are you using alsa?
[05:12] <felon> k
[05:12] <felon> ill get it
[05:12] <niggpie> :O that's effing handy!
[05:12] <nalioth> stevenj: good thinking
[05:12] <cfh_dev> felon, I'm using xchat
[05:12] <lui> i'm using xchat
[05:12] <latino> lui: for x86? hold on
[05:12] <felon> works well?
[05:12] <niggpie> brb =)
[05:12] <modzero> should be installed with ubuntu unless you did a custom
[05:12] <meepus> I'm new to linux, and ubuntu in general, and I'm running the livecd right now... is it possible for me to install ubuntu on my unpartitioned HDD space from the livecd?
[05:12] <nicholas_paul> i"M using Xchat :)
[05:12] <johnny> hmm.. ubuntu doesn't seem to come with a media player..
[05:12] <cfh_dev> felon, yep
[05:12] <weob> yes it does
[05:12] <lui> latino, yes please, thanks
[05:12] <eazel7> hi ppl
[05:12] <weob> kafeine i think
[05:12] <budluva_> how much space do i need to have for /var? i have my own partition for /var (11gb) and only 900mb used, just wondering if its too late to resize that partition
[05:12] <Earthen> glick: you may need to set update interval to 1 second
[05:12] <robotgeek> johnny: totem
[05:12] <stevenj> nalioth, I guess I could just take out the backports part and enable just multi?
[05:12] <nicholas_paul> johnny - what kind of media you wanna play?
[05:13] <weob> or totem
[05:13] <johnny> totem is kinda lame to use
[05:13] <johnny> for that
[05:13] <weob> oh well install vlc
[05:13] <_Temujin> Is it just me... Or is bittorrent way slower than azureus?
[05:13] <johnny> i wonder if ubuntu will switch to banshee
[05:13] <lui> meepus, I think not
[05:13] <weob> apt-get install vlc
[05:13] <weob> that easy
[05:13] <modzero> totem and mplayer or xmms and realplayer are easily obtainable
[05:13] <robotgeek> johnny: totem-xine works well too
[05:13] <weob> with sudo rather
[05:13] <szoth> the download server is returning a 404 anyone know who I could report that to?
[05:13] <latino> ubuntu 628 kubuntu 643
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> johnny- if you want to play mp3s, get beep-media-player
[05:13] <cfh_dev> _Temujin, azureus seems to eat up a lot of proc & mem for me
[05:13] <johnny> banshee seems to have the new play
[05:13] <meepus> are the install cd isos bootable?
[05:13] <johnny> bootable yes
[05:13] <WhyvasLT> szoth, try jesus
[05:13] <nalioth> stevenj: backports are not gonna be available for breezy for a few weeks
[05:14] <meepus> ah good
[05:14] <modzero> azureus is a mem hog , crappy java soft
[05:14] [Dexcel(n=Dexcel@pc-238-167-239-201.cm.vtr.net)]  hi
[05:14] <concept10> Has anyone been able to watch the apple stream with any player (vlc,totem) etc
[05:14] <Earthen> glick: you can do that under edit-> preferences, then Processes tab and put it to 1 there
[05:14] <johnny> i can't wait til we get hardwar rendering
[05:14] <modzero> use gnome bittorrent client if your running gnome its lighter
[05:14] <_Temujin> I didn't use the java version
[05:14] <glick> k
[05:14] <lui> yes of course
[05:14] <meepus> Well, I'll be back soon hopefully then, with a fresh install of ubuntu :)  thanks!
[05:14] <latino> szoth: it might reach the limit of request (aka too many ppl trying at once)
[05:14] <modzero> azureus is java based
[05:14] <modzero> have to have it
[05:14] <szoth> no the directory layout is just wrong
[05:14] <meepus> azureus is huge by the way.
[05:14] <meepus> the java is a huge ram hog.
[05:14] <_Temujin> but it has pretty pictures!
[05:14] <_Temujin> :)
[05:14] <modzero> yeah
[05:15] <modzero> nice frog
[05:15] <meepus> The frog is cute though, I'll admit
[05:15] <stevenj> nalioth, I know, but for some reason its included in the default sources list, in the same line as multiuniverse...thats what I am confused about
[05:15] <szoth> so the links on the download page are pointing to 404 errors
[05:15] <cfh_dev> mmm... frogs...
[05:15] <nalioth> stevenj: really? there may be hope
[05:15] <johnny> so .. you guys checked out banshee yet?
[05:15] <robotgeek> johnny: what's banshee?
[05:15] <modzero> temujin do you use gnome?
[05:15] <stevenj> stevenj, I dont know...I think Windows made me anal
[05:15] <johnny> the new premier media player
[05:15] <latino> banshee is a multiplayer in halo 2
[05:15] <johnny> music player*
[05:15] <TylerDurden> how can i get gdesklets?
[05:15] <budluva_> can i resize a partition after install?
[05:15] <robotgeek> johnny: better than amarok?
[05:16] <latino> is a vehicle* :P
[05:16] <johnny> amarok is kde!
[05:16] <johnny> err qt
[05:16] <_Temujin> yeah... As of today with ubuntu
[05:16] <meepus> you can resize a partition with qtparted
[05:16] <johnny> i meant for gnome :)
[05:16] <meepus> I just did that :D
[05:16] <_Temujin> breezy gnome
[05:16] <EnsignRedshirt> Hmmm.... where's my favorite graphics diagnostics tool--tuxracer?
[05:16] <robotgeek> johnny: okay with me :)
[05:16] <budluva_> meepus, what about if its got data? ie /var is /hdc2 only using 900 meg of 11gb
[05:16] <johnny> robotgeek, well check it out sometime
[05:16] <latino> szoth: 404 means the page doesn't exit.
[05:16] <johnny> it's still new tho
[05:16] <meepus> you can resize it if you've got data
[05:16] <johnny> but i bet it will be default someday
[05:16] <meepus> just be sure you've defragged it already
[05:17] <latino> it really exist but too many ppl is askin it so appears that doesn't exist
[05:17] <modzero> try using the gnome bittorrent client  temujin its lighter with less options as azurues but there is no java dep and its pretty damm stable
[05:17] <meepus> qtparted won't let you resize it below it's minimum size
[05:17] <TylerDurden> how can i get gdesklets?
[05:17] <cfh_dev> meepus, how can I defrag a reiserfs drive?
[05:17] <Earthen> anyone know of a howto for sharing a printer from one linux box to another
[05:17] <budluva_> meepus, whats a good defrag app for ubuntu?
[05:17] <modzero> lol bud
[05:17] <_Temujin> it seems to download much slower
[05:17] <mister_roboto> TylerDurden: first link when i google it: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/       might ask google next time ;)
[05:17] <meepus> I don't know anything about reiserfs drives
[05:17] <scott> Does Rhythmbox play mp3s?   Because it keeps telling me something about it cant stream them or something like that
[05:17] <konra`> how does one access the restricted repositories (for mp3 libs and such) from breezy?
[05:17] <johnny> scott, you need the codecs
[05:17] <meepus> I used qtparted in ubuntu
[05:17] <meepus> there's one included
[05:17] <meepus> called GParted
[05:17] <meepus> which is the gnome partition editor
[05:17] <budluva_> qtparted will defrag drives?
[05:17] <robotgeek> johnny: i am on an old machine, so i prefer the xine engine
[05:17] <lui> can I install a dock like the objectdock of stardock?
[05:17] <meepus> but for me, it didn't work
[05:17] <_Temujin> maybe it's just the torrent
[05:17] <stevenj> has anyone tried 686 kernel in breezy yet?
[05:18] <meepus> oh, defrag?
[05:18] <modzero> nah temujin it runs fine ive run it on same torrents
[05:18] <nalioth> budluva_: no it will not
[05:18] <meepus> depends
[05:18] <johnny> i'm appreciating gstramer arch
[05:18] <latino> 686 kernel??
[05:18] <crazygamer> can someone help me with the su account...I want to enable it just because that's what I'm used to, but it said that all the KDE apps would break
[05:18] <scott> johnny:  Where/How?
[05:18] <theine> SteveA, i'm running it
[05:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crazygamer about root
[05:18] <meepus> if you're trying to defrag a windows partition
[05:18] <johnny> uncomment universe
[05:18] <meepus> you're going to want to do that in windows
[05:18] <johnny> in the sources.list
[05:18] <crazygamer> any advice?
[05:18] <cfh_dev> crazygamer, you should be using sudo
[05:18] <meepus> and by windows I mean NTFS
[05:18] <stevenj> latino, yes 686
[05:18] <nalioth> crazygamer: use 'kdesu' in kde
[05:18] <_Temujin> can it restart torrents after reboots?
[05:18] <weob> yes
[05:18] <_Temujin> automatically?
[05:18] <modzero> do not take the name of root in vain
[05:18] <konra`> lol
[05:18] <jabra> anyone know about a new ubuntuguide? (someone working on it, do they need help etc)
[05:18] <johnny> i use use the regular btdownloadgui.py
[05:18] <crazygamer> i just find sudo kind of a pain
[05:18] <theine> stevenj, i'm running the 686 kernel
[05:18] <weob> just run the program that was sharing it -
[05:18] <modzero> yeah you can resume torrents
[05:18] <weob> i prefer azureus
[05:19] <robotgeek> jabra: try #ubuntu-doc
[05:19] <konra`> jabra, usually ubuntuguide is disapproved of in here
[05:19] <konra`> :p
[05:19] <stevenj> theine, ok thanks..guess I'll try it
[05:19] <jabra> konra`: o of course
[05:19] <robotgeek> johnny: never mind, i misunderstood
[05:19] <latino> azureus rocks  (besides it's the only torrent client I've ever used :P )
[05:19] <lui> is there a dock like objectdock of stardock for linux?
[05:19] <mister_roboto> crazygamer: if you're asking, you probably don't want to be doing it.   you could always "sudo su -" if you WANT to
[05:19] <modzero> ubuntuguide is not the way to go
[05:19] <Toma-> or sudo -s
[05:19] <robotgeek> latino: screen + ncurses bittorrent :)
[05:20] <wilhelm> can anyone tell me what plugin to be install to be able to play mp3's on ubuntu? thanks
[05:20] <wilhelm> can anyone tell me what plugin to be install to be able to play mp3's on ubuntu? thanks
[05:20] <Toma-> or ln -s /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/! or something stupid like that
[05:20] <modzero> ncurses bt lol rock
[05:20] <meepus> use amarok to play MP3s in ubuntu
[05:20] <theine> wilhelm, gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:20] <meepus> go to the package manager and search it out
[05:20] <nalioth> robotgeek: not "gnu screen" + ncurses bittorrent?
[05:20] <meepus> :-X
[05:20] <crazygamer> so you guys just suggest sticking with sudo
[05:20] <nalioth> robotgeek: :)
[05:20] <latino> :agrees with meepus. amarok rok
[05:20] <Toma-> crazygamer: saves u doing stupid things
[05:20] <meepus> amarok ftw
[05:20] <robotgeek> nalioth: :)
[05:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell wilhelm about mp3
[05:20] <mister_roboto> Toma: that is,   sudo ln -s ...    ;)
[05:21] <crazygamer> Toma-: ok lol
[05:21] <ubuntuguy> anyone: I'm trying to run configure for libquicktime, I installed gcc, but configure states the compiler cannot create executables...?
[05:21] <wilhelm> meepus the amarok?
[05:21] <Toma-> thanks mister_roboto
[05:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Basic question (I've been using warty for the last year)... I need to install nvidia-glx myself, right?  I have an nvidia card.
[05:21] <meepus> anyway, I have to get out of my livecd and go find the torrent for the breezy badger install
[05:21] <meepus> adieu!
[05:21] <johnny> playing mp3s varies dependong in the programs you use
[05:21] <johnny> some use different libraries
[05:21] <latino> !mp3
[05:21] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:21] <weob> easy to do
[05:21] <indy> Hiiiiiiiii...............
[05:21] <cafuego_> Hi! When is breezy warthog coming out?
[05:21] <theine> ubuntuguy, install the build-essentials package
[05:21] <latino> holaaaa indy
[05:22] <modzero> lol
[05:22] <ubuntuguy> theine: I'll try that
[05:22] <meff> hi all, i have a quick question i hope i can get help with.. i have a IT812x secondary pata controller, and i booted up the breezy cd and it does not find it.. i know this driver was in 2.6.13 -- if i install breezy, is there a 2.6.13 update available?
[05:22] <modzero> right after hoary gbadger
[05:22] <FliesLikeABrick> how much space does a rand new linux install take up?
[05:22] <FliesLikeABrick> brand*
[05:22] <johnny> FliesLikeABrick, depends on which distro
[05:22] <Madpilot> Going for the dist-upgrade to Breezy... wish me luck... (deep breath...) ;)
[05:22] <FliesLikeABrick> ubuntur hoary or breezy
[05:22] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: A base full ubuntu 5.10 install uses about 2 GB
[05:22] <modzero> depends flieslike, on install you can do a full ubuntu and use about 3.4 gb i think
[05:22] <johnny> root@ubuntu:~# df -h
[05:22] <johnny> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:22] <johnny> /dev/hda1             8.8G  1.7G  7.2G  19% /
[05:22] <theine> cafuego, what??
[05:22] <nalioth> johnny: please do not paste in here
[05:23] <latino> banshee, warthog? who came out with does names? is there any spectre, pelican or gosht?
[05:23] <concept10> Anyone of you guys been successful installing quicktime 7 with crossover office?
[05:23] <cafuego_> theine: what what?
[05:23] <modzero> lol
[05:23] <modzero> spectre toad
[05:23] <meff> i'd really appreciate it if someone can tell me whether there is a 2.6.13 update available in breezy...
[05:23] <johnny> i wasn't going to paste anything above 5 lines... i use pastebin for that
[05:23] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: a base server install about 100Mb, I think.
[05:24] <ubuntuguy> theine: that worked, thank you!
[05:24] <nalioth> meff: no there is not
[05:24] <cafuego_> meff: There is not. 2.6.12-9 is teh latest.
[05:24] <theine> ubuntuguy, you're welcome
[05:24] <niggpie> johnny : apt-get didn't even attempt to read from either of my rom drives.. Am I doing something wrong? "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:24] <johnny> niggpie, check your sources.list .. make sure the cd is listed
[05:24] <felon> ok
[05:24] <meff> cafuego_: how would i get my IT812x controller to work then? do i have to wait till the next release?
[05:24] <cafuego_> johnny: You should really sue pastebin for anything more than two lines
[05:24] <felon> i got ubuntu installed
[05:24] <nalioth> johnny: 2 lines is polite (any more than that and some ops get itchy
[05:24] <anthony> I have installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package, which is said to support Mobility Radeon 9000 (my laptop video card), after I rebooted how come I still can't change my resolution to 1024x768? When ever I do the screen just went blank. I'm now stuck now 1400x1050 (my max res) and I want to lower it 'cause it slows down a bunch and text are hard to read.
[05:24] <latino> nice move: felon :D
[05:25] <FliesLikeABrick> how can i open the hoary equivalent of a "root terminal" in breezy?
[05:25] <cafuego_> meff: Does 2.6.12 not support it *at all* ?
[05:25] <johnny> FliesLikeABrick, open up a terminal and sudo
[05:25] <johnny> meff, compile your own kernel i guess
[05:25] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: start a terminal, run 'sudo -s'
[05:25] <meff> cafuego_: correct. driver was merged into kernel on 2.6.13
[05:25] <johnny> or look to see if there is ubuntu package
[05:25] <nalioth> FliesLikeABrick: sudo -s
[05:25] <niggpie> anthony!!! having same problem :(
[05:25] <johnny> elsewhere
[05:25] <johnny> ie: not in any of the regular ubuntu repo
[05:25] <modzero> edit x.org.conf
[05:25] <cafuego_> meff: Then I'm afraid you'll need a custom compiled kernel.
[05:25] <anthony> niggpie: Which brand and model of laptop do you have?
[05:25] <FliesLikeABrick> thank you
[05:25] <niggpie> johnny.. where do i find the sources list?
[05:25] <EnsignRedshirt> If I have an nvidia graphics card, is the only thing I need to do (after installing breezy) is to install nvidia-glx?  Or will I have to do some additional configuration?
[05:25] <johnny> somebody might have already made one .. if not, go build the kernel yourself
[05:26] <niggpie> anthony.. desktop 9200SE, but exact same symptom
[05:26] <fernando> hi all
[05:26] <modzero> ensign
[05:26] <meff> cafuego_: this i can do. does ubuntu provide patchsets and configs that i could use against 2.6.13 by any chance?
[05:26] <johnny> building kernels is not very hard
[05:26] <modzero> you need to edit your xorg.conf
[05:26] <johnny> cat /proc/config ?
[05:26] <fernando> 5.10 don't work with vesafb ? bootsplash problem?
[05:26] <anthony> niggpie: Did it worked okay back in 5.04?
[05:26] <niggpie> yeah 5.04 was fine
[05:26] <guru54> anyone know a mirror that has a azureus package for ubuntu 5.10?
[05:26] <Eppu> EnsignRedshirt: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:26] <modzero> real simple read the readme on nvidia site. or google search nvidia linux install. but dont do the install. just the xorg.conf
[05:26] <johnny> oh.. there's no /proc/config
[05:27] <_Temujin> does "apt-get upgrade" refresh the databases and offer to upgrade packages to newer versions?
[05:27] <anthony> niggpie: Have you tried the official driver from ATI?
[05:27] <_Temujin> !tell me about apt-get
[05:27] <modzero> its a package manger its fast its good.
[05:27] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: Or you could add a launcher that runs 'gksudo gnome-terminal' and call it 'Root Terminal'
[05:27] <niggpie> unfortunately, I've never installed/upgraded a linux driver.. so i'm out to lunch there =/
[05:27] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  already did :-p
[05:27] <theine> johnny, look in /boot
[05:27] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: OK.  But is that in addtion to, or instead of, the command Eppu gave?
[05:28] <meff> cafuego_: and if not, does kernel-package work in ubuntu like in debian?
[05:28] <modzero> ensign do this.....
[05:28] <TylerDurden> ubotu tell tylerdurden about repositories
[05:28] <weob> so after i install the win32codecs - how do i view a wmv ?
[05:28] <theine> johnny, ls /boot/config-`uname -r`
[05:28] <cafuego_> meff: I think they don't; they DO provide a patch set for an already-ubuntu kernel, but that won't necessarily work on a vanilla kernel. make-kpkg works fine, though.
[05:28] <Orborde> The Ubuntu BitTorrent seems to be majorly seeded...
[05:28] <mister_roboto> _Temujin: "apt-get update" refreshes your database
[05:28] <anthony> Qt3 is for KDE right?
[05:28] <latino> theine I think you need css
[05:28] <sbalneav> ubotu: info
[05:29] <meff> cafuego_: great. does ubuntu use any special kernel features that would not be in vanilla then?
[05:29] <theine> latino, what's css?
[05:29] <Eppu> EnsignRedshirt: You do not need to modify xorg.conf if you use the nvidia-glx-config
[05:29] <calc> i386 cd install iso is really well seeded that is for sure ;)
[05:29] <calc> 2515 seeds
[05:29] <cafuego_> meff: Yep. The main one is breezy is usplash (bootup progress bar)
[05:29] <weob> got it to work with mplayer -
[05:29] <FliesLikeABrick> are the breezy backports broken right now?
[05:29] <meff> cafuego_: so i guess building off vanilla 2.6.13 would require some patching eh.. hmph..
[05:29] <latino>  'css' is (#1) http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb, and (#2) dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb, and (#3) css-amd64: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_amd64.deb
[05:29] <cafuego_> meff: I'm not sure how extensively the kernel is patched for restricted-modules (nvidia, ati etc) support.
[05:30] <theine> latino, i see, but why are you telling me this?
[05:30] <modzero> open a terminal and sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx    . then sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     go to the section where it says load dri and add a # infront of it  if load glx isnt there add it
[05:30] <_Temujin> I was confudsing update and upgrade
[05:30] <cafuego_> css is buioldable locally using the little script that comes with libdvdread3.
[05:30] <keffynd> back (damn internet link)
[05:30] <meff> cafuego_: true. crap.. i guess i'll have to wait till a 2.6.13 comes out on breezy -- or.. will one ever? ..
[05:30] <keffynd> anyone here got a Audigy 4 Pro ?
[05:31] <cafuego_> modzero: nvidia-glx comes with a script to automate that step too :-)
[05:31] <latino> theine: omg, my bad that was meant to weob
[05:31] <latino> sorry
[05:31] <_Temujin> dist-upgrade seems abit scary
[05:31] <modzero> got an audigy 2
[05:31] <theine> meff, what's the kernel module you need actually called?
[05:31] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: Note that HT is disabled in the smp kernel.
[05:31] <theintern> is there a way to get back 'right click'->'Open Terminal' in breezy ?
[05:31] <theine> latino, no worries...
[05:31] <keffynd> modzero does that Audigy 2 have an external or live drive thing?
[05:31] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  i'm not using HT
[05:31] <latino> thanks
[05:31] <modzero> either way
[05:31] <meff> theine: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IT821X specifically..
[05:31] <nalioth> theintern: install "nautilus-open-terminal"
[05:31] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  using dual pentium 3s with dual flatscreens
[05:31] <foxgamer> so, like gnome >kde. worth it? better? worse? able to go back? :)
[05:31] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: I got nvidia-glx, and I ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", which is what Eppu, and the package comments, say to do.
[05:31] <modzero> its a pcmcia keff
[05:31] <cafuego_> meff: If their update policy is the same as debian, then no.
[05:31] <dabaR> theintern: there is a way to do anything changewise in open source software.
[05:31] <modzero> for my laptop
[05:31] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: ah ok :-)
[05:31] <keffynd> modzero ah ok
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  my prized possession :P
[05:32] <nalioth> foxgamer: install xubuntu-desktop so you'll really have something to ponder
[05:32] <theintern> dabaR, not when i dont have time to do it
[05:32] <keffynd> I cant get the darn line in to work here, and it is driving me insane!
[05:32] <cafuego_> meff: Mind you, that does _not_ mean you wouldn't be able to run the 2.6.13 kernel from Dapper Drake ;-)
[05:32] <theintern> thank you nalioth
[05:32] <disasm> meff: compiling a kernel isn't that difficult
[05:32] <jedediah> keffynd: FWIW I think they sell an external unit if a person needs it. USB2 Iirc.
[05:32] <foxgamer> nalioth: xubuntu-desktop? a new one on me. <sighs>
[05:32] <meff> sigh.. i guess everyone with an asus board w/ onboard IT chipsets will have to wait :x
[05:32] <john__> how can i get multimedia to play inside of firefox?
[05:32] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: Like my dual P2 without any screens whatsoever? ;-)
[05:33] <nalioth> foxgamer: latest ubuntu goodness. an xfce4 based ubuntu
[05:33] <weob> its also you got to edit the xorg.config file
[05:33] <dabaR> theintern: oh, you meant to ask, how can I get back right click open a terminal in breezy, I get it. :P. Well, have not upgraded yet, so I do not know yet. search the forums, or the wiki.
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  i have 3 dual p3 rackmount servers that just sit places and serve stuff
[05:33] <johnny> hmm.. currently you can use mozplugger.. but it will best in the long run
[05:33] <john__> i cant get totem to work, just doesn't work, cant get mozilla-mplayer to load, and i installed MediaPlayerConnectivity but it crashes firefos
[05:33] <meff> disasm: i know i have been for years.. but if i build my own it'll break all the driver pkgs and i'll have to hunt down ubuntu-specific patches.
[05:33] <johnny> to use the embeeded totem
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego, http://ww2.u13.net/dozer/
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  running debian
[05:33] <ubuntuguy> anyone: I'm trying to compile libquicktime and it won't link complaining about `inflate' and other missing symbols
[05:33] <disasm> nalioth: xfce4 based... yeah!!! no more gnome!!!
[05:33] <modzero> i run an ftp server off ubuntu its stable as mofo
[05:33] <johnny> i doubt you'll break the drive packages ..
[05:33] <johnny> driver*
[05:33] <foxgamer> nalioth: and I can use this with breezy?
[05:33] <frank23> john__: mozillaplayerconnectivity crashes firefox???? I use it all the time
[05:33] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick: Mine is a pretty full tower '97 model Debian Sarge running beast (in a shed at the in-laws)
[05:33] <theintern> dabaR, thank you for the concern but someone else has already surpassed your usefulness
[05:33] <disasm> meff: ah...
[05:34] <johnny> lol theintern
[05:34] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego,  my main server is a lian-li pc76 full tower with 17 HDs and debian :P
[05:34] <john__> frank23, i used to
[05:34] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: ... but looking at xorg.cong, "load dri" is not commented out.
[05:34] <FliesLikeABrick> cafuego, 2.4ghz beast with lotsa SCSI
[05:34] <john__> frank23, how can i remove the totem mozilla plugin?
[05:34] <cafuego_> the production box is an athlonxp at a facility (where ubotu runs)
[05:34] <FliesLikeABrick> i have yet to start playing with new amd chips
[05:34] <FliesLikeABrick> no money
[05:34] <modzero> need to comment it out ensign
[05:35] <modzero> just add an # in front of it
[05:35] <john__> How can I remove the totem mozilla plugin?
[05:35] <disasm> i'm just glad i found out I can get packages off of carroll at psu once i auth the vpn, i don't have to wait 2 hours for dist-upgrade
[05:35] <frank23> john__: I don't know. It probably is somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> john__, did you try synaptic?
[05:35] <cafuego_> WinZ: I'll thank you to NOT do that.
[05:35] <TylerDurden> i wanna download something off apt-get but it says no install candidate found..
[05:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> this may sound trite, but ubuntu needs to come with a default pretty desktop instead of ugly reds and browns.
[05:36] <meff> hell, even fc4 had support for this chipset.. lol.. i guess i'll have to wait another half year.. *tosses cd in trash* *sighs*
[05:36] <john__> nomasteryoda, its in the totem packages
[05:36] <jedediah> BROKEN_LADDER: That's trite.
[05:36] <john__> nomasteryoda, i can't figure out how to remove just the plugin
[05:36] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: the brown distinguishes it and is "earthy", from which Ubuntu is inspired.
[05:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> jedediah yeah, but the average lay user wants something inviting, like blue.
[05:36] <cafuego_> meff: Is the it* the only controller the mobo has?
[05:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i know.
[05:36] <TylerDurden> how do i install something that says no install candidate found?
[05:36] <jedediah> BROKEN_LADDER: Are you hinting at kubuntu?
[05:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun the average user doesn't care.
[05:36] <meff> cafuego_: no but my ICH7 pata is full and i have disks on the ITE chipset.
[05:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> i dunno.
[05:36] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: we'll have something different in 6.04.
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> john__, you can reassociate it with say the mplayer plugin
[05:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've never used kubuntu.  i use ubuntu with kde.
[05:36] <cafuego_> TylerDurden: "not" until it's fixed, usually.
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> at least
[05:37] <latino> BROKEN_LADDER: that's why I use kubuntu
[05:37] <TylerDurden> cafuego, what do u mean?
[05:37] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: OK.  It looks like the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" command only changes the driver from "nv" to "nvidia".
[05:37] <jedediah> BROKEN_LADDER: If you install kubuntu, its all a pretty blue
[05:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun nifty.  i read the interview with that dude who flew in the last soyuz or whatever.  pretty cool.
[05:37] <cafuego_> TylerDurden: or by enabling the universe/multiverse repositories.
[05:37] <modzero> thats good ensing
[05:37] <john__> nomasteryoda, Ok, MediaPlayerConnectivity crashes only when totem is installed
[05:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> jedediah oh neat.  i've already changed my settings but that's good to know.
[05:37] <modzero> now you need to comment out load dri and add load glx if it isnt there already
[05:37] <john__> How can I stop mozilla from trying to load it?
[05:37] <TylerDurden> cafuego, how do i add extra repos? the list i added r messed up cuz it gives me a buncnh of errors when i try to download something
[05:37] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: Ubuntu + KDE is Kubuntu...
[05:37] <Bicchi> how can i get gnome to change the status of the num-lock key
[05:37] <Eppu> EnsignRedshirt: It shouldn't matter. The Load "dri" can stay there, it is ignored when using the nvidia driver.
[05:37] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: art.ubuntu.com - lots of toys
[05:37] <Xenguy> I just upgraded to Breezy - have there been any reports of menu fonts losing their antialias?  I'm not totally sure, but I think my fonts look rougher than before :-/
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> john__, why not just remove totem totally?
[05:37] <latino> I never get the swing with gnome. kde lokks better. fluxbox is faster
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> and rely on mplayer
[05:37] <frank23> john__: stop mozilla from trying to load what?
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> totem plugin frank23
[05:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego oh sweet!
[05:38] <john__> frank23, totem plugin
[05:38] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: Lots of pretty backgrounds.
[05:38] <john__> nomasteryoda, because i like totem
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> ah
[05:38] <Meepus> isn't totem just for movies
[05:38] <TylerDurden> cafuego, so how do i download?
[05:38] <theine> meff, still there?
[05:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Restarting X... I'll be back.
[05:38] <modzero> have a question. im not in any rush to get breezy, but does anyone run cedega on it?
[05:38] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: go to http://fridge.ubuntu.com, and add your vote to the poll on the LHS
[05:38] <modzero> ok esnign
[05:38] <bimberi> :)
[05:38] <modzero> ensign rather
[05:39] <frank23> john__: look in /home/frank/.mozilla/plugins
[05:39] <modzero> hope he didnt blotch that lol
[05:39] <frank23> john__: and delete the plugin?
[05:39] <_Temujin> I need to taint my kernel... How do I get the source tree for 2.6.12?
[05:39] <modzero> no cedega users? without a war about how wrong they are)
[05:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> prague looks so amazing.
[05:39] <frank23> _Temujin: you can get it from synaptic
[05:39] <_Temujin> I shows up to 11
[05:39] <disasm> modzero: i tried to, and it didn't work very well, but then again, I had the same problem with hoary (it's in a chroot with amd64)
[05:39] <cafuego_> _Temujin: via synaptic & search
[05:40] <modzero> ??
[05:40] <meepus> modzero: what do you wanna know about it
[05:40] <meepus> if it works?
[05:40] <frank23> modzero: I played warcraft 3 with cedega in breezy
[05:40] <_FR0D0> i have probel configuring an us-international keayboard, the dead keys don't work anymore (the were fine in 5.4,  broke in 5.10) any help?
[05:40] <johnny> i played warcraft3 with regular wine
[05:40] <modzero> yeah ive got war3 runnin on hoary
[05:40] <_FR0D0> s/probel/problem/
[05:40] <johnny> you don't need cedega
[05:40] <cafuego_> _FR0D0: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[05:41] <modzero> couldnt get hitman contracts or vice city to run well with hoary though
[05:41] <modzero> shitty framerate
[05:41] <_FR0D0> cafuego_, done that, didn't work
[05:41] <meepus> mod: what kinda video card do you use
[05:41] <modzero> 5600
[05:41] <meepus> that's odd
[05:41] <meepus> you should be fine
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> this is a good ubuntu background, because it's a pretty shade of "earthy" color. http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-Simple_Human_1600x1200.png
[05:41] <meepus> you make sure you have updated drivers?
[05:42] <modzero> yeah had issues as i had updated from a 5200
[05:42] <cafuego_> _FR0D0: Odd. Did you logout and log back in?
[05:42] <anthony> What's the command for restarting X?
[05:42] <meepus> broken_ladder: that looks like a ubuntu play off the OSX Aqua wallpaper
[05:42] <modzero> cleared up with new driver release and rm nvidia packages
[05:42] <haselden> anthony: you can ctrl alt backspace
[05:42] <meepus> which isn't to say it's unattractive
[05:42] <anthony> haselden: Thank you.
[05:42] <fernando> anyone with openGL performance poor after update? (VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller)
[05:42] <meepus> just a comment.
[05:42] <modzero> kotr even runs pretty good just those two games
[05:42] <aztek> so i bought a wifi US Robotics PC Card that has native Linux driver support, but the driver doesn't work with wpa_supplicant. can anyone recommend a diff. way to use WPA
[05:42] <meepus> vice city is a terrible port anyway mod
[05:42] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-DawnOfUbuntu_1600x1200.png  (The one I use)
[05:43] <modzero> port?
[05:43] <meepus> i couldn't tell you about hitman
[05:43] <meepus> yeah
[05:43] <meepus> rockstar basically takes the xbox version of their latest GTA game
[05:43] <modzero> gta3 rns good just not vice
[05:43] <meepus> and then makes a PC port of it
[05:43] <jrattner1> Yes its burning
[05:43] <meepus> GTA3 was less system intensive
[05:43] <modzero> wish multitheft would run lol
[05:43] <meepus> and it was a bad port as well
[05:43] <aztek> actually i had more problems with GTA3 than Vice City
[05:43] <modzero> really? what vid card?
[05:44] <meepus> I couldn't get GTA3 to run under XP
[05:44] <modzero> lol
[05:44] <meepus> but I was using a geforce MX440 at the time
[05:44] <aztek> there was a patch for XP for Gta3
[05:44] <modzero> ewww. 32 or 64mb?
[05:44] <meepus> ah, I hadn't any patch
[05:44] <meepus> 64
[05:44] <modzero> had one of those bastards once
[05:44] <bytefoo> WOW
[05:44] <bytefoo> that is so my new wallkpaper
[05:44] <bytefoo> :|
[05:44] <meepus> it should've run it, technically
[05:44] <meepus> and it did
[05:45] <meepus> it just failed to display textures on ANYTHING but people
[05:45] <modzero> ensign did you get everything squared away?
[05:45] <wolki> hi!
[05:45] <anthony> Somebody in here was having problem with his/her ATI Radeon 9200SE not changing resolution after installing the fglrx driver, who was it? I have found a way to fix it.
[05:45] <meepus> which was just disgusting
[05:45] <wolki> can someone help me a little with grep?
[05:45] <modzero> yeah gta3 runs on like a 450mhz with 32mb right?
[05:45] <meepus> supposedly
[05:45] <meepus> hypothetically
[05:45] <Toma-> modzero: yep
[05:45] <meepus> in theory
[05:45] <ubuntuguy> anyone: I found libquicktime in synaptic package manager, how do I install the mplayer plugin for for firefox?
[05:45] <meepus> :P
[05:45] <mister_roboto> wolki: just ask    (or man grep :)
[05:46] <modzero> what are you greppin for wolki
[05:46] <Toma-> modzero: runs like a dog with no back legs tho.
[05:46] <mike1> lo
[05:46] <modzero> what does toma?
[05:46] <modzero> gta 3
[05:46] <meepus> gta3
[05:46] <Toma-> gta3 on that hardware
[05:46] <aztek> LOL
[05:46] <meepus> yeah
[05:46] <modzero> yeah
[05:46] <anthony> ubuntuguy: The package is "mozilla-mplayer".
[05:46] <meepus> I have a PS2 for that though
[05:46] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero:  I think so.  The nvidia splash came up when I restarted X.  Now I'm adding universe and multiverse so I can find tuxracer and do some real diagnostics :)
[05:46] <meepus> ;)
[05:46] <wolki> mister_roboto:  i'm trying to match something with or (meaning |) ... how do i tell it not to interpret it not as a pipe?
[05:46] <meepus> modchip and HDLoader FTW
[05:46] <modzero> ok ensign quick test
[05:46] <mike1> Question? if I upgrade to Breezy is my wireless card gonna crap out?  DWL-520 rev e1
[05:46] <modzero> go to your terminal
[05:46] <wolki> and' im reading the man page already
[05:47] <wolki> ^^;;;
[05:47] <Toma-> mike1: does it use ndiswrapper?
[05:47] <cafuego_> EnsignRedshirt: You'll want Option "NoLogo" "true" in the xorg cofig file then.
[05:47] <modzero> and type            glxgears
[05:47] <mike1> no firmware
[05:47] <poningru> lots of people
[05:47] <modzero> well get rid of the logo later
[05:47] <anthony> ubuntuguy: But if you get the win32codecs you'll be able to play QuickTime, Real, and Windows formatted videos.
[05:47] <cafuego_> mike1: Does it work OK now?
[05:47] <modzero> give it a sec and tell me what your fps are
[05:47] <mister_roboto> wolki:  grep "|" <file>
[05:47] <bytefoo> btw, is it just me or are there no w32codecs in multiverse
[05:47] <aztek> so anyway
[05:47] <mike1> yes I had to follow a wiki that had me build from kernal headers, the card needs firmware loaded
[05:47] <cafuego_> modzero: That doesn't do anything.
[05:47] <aztek> i bought a wifi US Robotics PC Card that has native Linux driver support, but the driver doesn't work with wpa_supplicant. can anyone recommend a diff. way to use WPA
[05:47] <modzero> glxgears
[05:47] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: Actually, I tried glxgear earlier, but it never gave me fps.
[05:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bytefoo about w32codecs
[05:48] <wolki> modzero: i want to grep the output of xprop for some lines, esp, WM_WINDOW_ROLE and WM_CLASS
[05:48] <modzero> ok ensign
[05:48] <theblue> Hi all.
[05:48] <robertj> hrmm, back to nature is really nice
[05:48] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: It just runs...
[05:48] <anthony> Where can I find the logs for this IRC channel?
[05:48] <Toma-> you shouldnt use glxgears for benchmarking.... just run glxinfo and see if the drivers pop up
[05:48] <bytefoo> nalioth, i thought so!
[05:48] <ubuntuguy> anthony: I don't see mozilla-mplayer in synaptic... must I use apt-get?
[05:48] <modzero> try going to your screensavers and find glmatrix
[05:48] <Toma-> then test it with tuxracer :D
[05:48] <bytefoo> i already downloaded those but i couldnt remember if they were added to multiverse later on or not :O
[05:48] <theblue> Happy Breezy, everyone.
[05:48] <cafuego_> run 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'
[05:48] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Have you enabled the multiverse and universe repositories?
[05:48] <meepus> still downloading my Breezy installer cd :X
[05:48] <modzero> setup the speed a bit and advanced should allow you to see fps
[05:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Toma-: tuxracer was my true test...
[05:48] <latino> ubuntuguy: I used apt-get mozilla-firefox
[05:48] <TylerDurden> ubotu tell tylerdurden about repositories
[05:48] <meepus> bittorrent for the win
[05:49] <Toma-> hehe
[05:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Toma:  but where is it?
[05:49] <mike1> Any guess?
[05:49] <meepus> http://www.linuxtracker.org should be on the front page of ubuntu.com
[05:49] <Toma-> youd have to instal it
[05:49] <ubuntuguy> anthony: no, how do I enable them?
[05:49] <meepus> take the load off the servers :)
[05:49] <cafuego_> mike1: Is it any any chance an acx100?
[05:49] <fernando> 2/j ubuntu-br
[05:49] <_FR0D0> cafuego_, yes 'm very frustated about this, been an spanish speaker i need my dead keys back
[05:49] <fernando> ops
[05:50] <modzero> ensign you following me?
[05:50] <mike1> acx100?  it's a D-link DWL-520 rev E1
[05:50] <anethema> doh nalioth i cant seem to get any of this working at all
[05:50] <wolki> mister_roboto: i tried that... grep "WM_WINDOW_ROLE|WM_CLASS" matches nothing, but both alone do... maybe i need some sleep ^^;;
[05:50] <cafuego_> _FR0D0: Hmmm. ot sure hw to...
[05:50] <nalioth> anethema: it's in your choice of sensor package
[05:50] <cafuego_> mike1: acx100 would refer to the actual chip.
[05:50] <anethema> just used lm-sensors
[05:50] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: I'm getting there...
[05:50] <modzero> k
[05:50] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Open up a Terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then press Enter. Enter your password as it prompts you, then a new text editor will open. Let me know when you get to the tex editor part.
[05:50] <mike1> Cafuego:  let me check (google)
[05:51] <anthony> By the way, anybody know where can I find the logs for this IRC channel?
[05:51] <aztek> uh
[05:51] <meepus> I bet they're huge
[05:51] <ubuntuguy> anthony: ready
[05:51] <modzero> yeah meeps when i added the 5600 had all kinds of bs with the via agp nvida and gart happenin had to wipe it all out
[05:51] <meepus> 644 users?
[05:51] <mister_roboto> wollki:egrep "(as|\|)" mytest
[05:51] <cafuego_> mike1: At worst you will need to build a driver for the new kernel.
[05:51] <meepus> awww
[05:51] <meepus> that sucks mod
[05:51] <haselden> anthony: not sure if they keep logs? but you can enable logging in xchat
[05:51] <meepus> at least you're not running ATI
[05:51] <cafuego_> mike1: At best, it will "just work".
[05:52] <meepus> I have a radeo 9500 pro softmodded to 9700
[05:52] <modzero> at i quit
[05:52] <meepus> radeon*
[05:52] <modzero> dun dun dunnnn
[05:52] <anthony> haselden: They do keep logs in this channel, I forgotted to book mark them but I've viewed them. Let me do some search myself see if I can find it, thanks anyway.
[05:52] <ColonelKernel> meepus, thats quite an overclock, I hope you have a serious fan on that thing
[05:52] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: glmatrix looks fine... but will that really test the nvidia drivers?  "Gears (planetary)" seems to run pretty quick.
[05:52] <haselden> anthony: sweet....if you find them, please let me know...that would be good to have
[05:52] <meepus> ColonelKernel: not really, the hardware is identical
[05:52] <ubuntuguy> anthony: which lines do I uncomment?
[05:53] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Find the line it says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted". Do you see it?
[05:53] <ColonelKernel> meepus, :/
[05:53] <modzero> well esnign its running a gl screensaver and with nvidia generic drivers it would look like ass lol
[05:53] <meepus> google it if you don't believe me :-P
[05:53] <wolki> mister_roboto: thanks! works now
[05:53] <modzero> now what you need to do is grab tuxracer
[05:53] <modzero> give it a spin. what kind of card do you have?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> why did so many people vote thumbs up for brown? jayzus.  i use the osx "water" background.
[05:53] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: I like brown.
[05:53] <oga> hey all
[05:54] <modzero> jesus shut up about the brown theme already. even windows users can find the theme settings and change it lol
[05:54] <adiabatic> BROKEN_LADDER: Nobody else uses brown backgrounds. Unfortunately, there's a reason why.
[05:54] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Uncomment "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted" line and add the word "multiverse" at the end, with a space between "restricted" and "multiverse". Then save the source.list file and then exit the text editor.
[05:54] <ubuntuguy> anthony: I read it
[05:54] <ColonelKernel> i got a really nice satellite pic of a moonrise over hurricane emily
[05:54] <meepus> ColonelKernel, here, check this link out: http://www.vr-zone.com/Home/news175/news175.htm#2817
[05:54] <modzero> sudo apt-get install tuxracer ..... ensign :)
[05:54] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Let me know after you have done the above.
[05:54] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: Or you could run 'xearth -root' ;-)
[05:55] <FliesLikeABrick> crap guys, what was that sudo command again to put in a terminal to have it be a root terminal?
[05:55] <westyvw> how can i tell WHO is logging into my computer with ssh?
[05:55] <modzero> finger
[05:55] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick:  gksudo gnome-terminal
[05:55] <ColonelKernel> um , no
[05:55] <FliesLikeABrick> westyvw,  command who?
[05:55] <westyvw> who wont tell you who if they are loggen in with ssh
[05:55] <westyvw> :(
[05:55] <FliesLikeABrick> itll say that they are on ptsx
[05:55] <FliesLikeABrick> as opposed to ttyx
[05:55] <FliesLikeABrick> won't it?
[05:55] <modzero> finger wont work?>
[05:56] <westyvw> finger the address?
[05:56] <westyvw> netstat doesnt give me a fingerable adderess
[05:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> adiabatic well said, my thermodynamics-loving friend.
[05:56] <modzero> finger with no parameters. just finger
[05:56] <westyvw> finger gives back me!
[05:56] <anthony> ubuntuguy: After you have done all that go to Synaptic again, it should update the package list by itself, input the search string "mozilla-mplayer" and tell me if you see it.
[05:56] <modzero> yeah your logged on right lol
[05:56] <meepus> /finger ftw
[05:56] <modzero> thanks meepus
[05:56] <westyvw> ok ftw
[05:57] <meepus> you're VERY welcome
[05:57] <meepus> :-X
[05:57] <oga> is there an easy way to do a fresh install of ubuntu on my box without distupting my win partition and without burning and reinstalling install cd?
[05:57] <budluva_> hrmm
[05:57] <budluva_> anyone notice any bugs in breezy azureus?
[05:57] <meepus> oga, I am in the process of doing that right now
[05:57] <hemppa> i can't read my ntfs partitions from ubuntu. what options i need to add to fstab?
[05:57] <Eppu> westyvw: who shows users logged in with ssh. They have a source address listed, instead of a X display number, for example
[05:57] <oga> how do you do it?
[05:57] <modzero> no but i bet azureus has some bugs
[05:58] <sterwill> Anyone know of a fast midwest mirror with the final breezy?  I've been using umn.edu, but it's not fast.  tds.com is fast, but it's not current.
[05:58] <meepus> oga, without a cd, how would you plan on doing a fresh ubuntu install?
[05:58] <oga> (fairly new to linux)
[05:58] <ubuntuguy> anthony: OK... one sec
[05:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Hmmm... I enabled universe and multiverse, and did an update, and I now have a Warning window that says "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates <snip> The following signatures were bad <snip>"
[05:58] <meepus> sterwill
[05:58] <oga> meepus i wasn't sure if you could.... sounds like it can't be done
[05:58] <meepus> www.linuxtracker.org
[05:58] <meepus> use bittorrent
[05:58] <sterwill> No, this is for the deb packages for upgrades.
[05:58] <meepus> oga, you need the cd.  You can install it without disrupting your windows install by using unpartitioned space on the same drive
[05:58] <oga> i guess i'll just download, burn and re-install
[05:58] <FliesLikeABrick> whenever i tell breezy to reboot the comp, it just shuts down.  any ideas?
[05:58] <nderjm> I keep getting errors with the universe and multiverse repositories also
[05:59] <meepus> or alternatively, a different drive
[05:59] <ubuntuguy> anthony: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:59] <meepus> you can resize your windows partition using the ubuntu livecd
[05:59] <bimberi> hemppa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:59] <talios> how can I tell apt-get to use a proxy?  can't seem to spot anything in the manpages
[05:59] <meepus> to make room for a fresh ubuntu installation
[05:59] <hemppa>  bimberi: thanks :)
[05:59] <bimberi> hemppa: yw :)
[06:00] <aztek> bah
[06:00] <anthony> ubuntuguy: I'm pretty sure you uncommented the wrong line, go back to the Terminal, run "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" again.
[06:00] <disasm> oga: do you have the live cd?
[06:00] <oga> meepus... n/p
[06:00] <ubuntuguy> anthony: OK
[06:00] <oga> disasm.... one of the old ones.... warty
[06:00] <modzero> any good poker games for linux? lol
[06:00] <meepus> oga: warty would work
[06:01] <meepus> you might want to run that, then use the package manager to grab qtparted
[06:01] <disasm> oga: you might be able to bootstrap it from the cd, get apt installed, and then apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy
[06:01] <modzero> ubuntu needs a net install like suse.
[06:01] <alsyr> hi everybody. i am new to ubuntu and i am having difficulty in installing it on an emachines desktop. has anybody got the same problem ? if so, how did you solve it ?
[06:01] <modzero> that would be sweet
[06:01] <aztek> Didn't 5.10 add a built in WPA tool??
[06:01] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, whats the install problem
[06:02] <dieman> aztek: you can use wpasupplicant, but i dont think they got a graphical thing going
[06:02] <alsyr> hi ColonelKernel, thanks for responding.
[06:02] <Eppu> talios: you can export http_proxy=http://address:port/
[06:02] <aztek> no i can't use wpa_supplicant, not with my wifi card
[06:02] <FliesLikeABrick> yay i got my dual processors and dual flatscreens working on breezy
[06:02] <FliesLikeABrick> progress
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> \me discovers that tuxracer is now called planetpenguin-racer.
[06:02] <talios> Eppu, ah sweet
[06:02] <zojak> anyone have a bittorrent download link to the install cd for windows ?
[06:02] <dieman> aztek: oh
[06:02] <modzero> lol sorry ensign
[06:02] <dieman> aztek: well then you'lll be sol either way
[06:02] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Do you see this line in your sources.list file? "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse" And that line should be uncommented.
[06:02] <dieman> aztek: which card?
[06:02] <meepus> zojak: http://linuxtracker.org
[06:02] <ColonelKernel> is there any current socket 478 mobo that allows a dual processor?
[06:02] <meepus> it's on there
[06:02] <modzero> hows it running for you?
[06:03] <aztek> a US Robotics that uses a driver not supported by wpasupplicant
[06:03] <dieman> aztek: which brand of wireless chipset is it?
[06:03] <meepus> currently there are 1717 seeds :D
[06:03] <westyvw> any other ideas to tell whos logged in when they log in as ssh?
[06:03] <dieman> aztek: which driver?
[06:03] <meepus> which is making my download go much quicker
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> westyvw,  who | grep pts
[06:03] <alsyr> i have an emachines t6412. ubuntu installs without any problem. past the login screen, on the splash screen, X hangs completely and freezes the computer
[06:03] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: If that question was for me... still waiting for the download.  I guess the repositories are pretty busy today :)
[06:03] <dieman> aztek: ie: will it eventually support all of the 'new' wireless extensions
[06:03] <aztek> hold i have to check
[06:03] <spackest> ok, so the other night I went from 5.04 to 5.10 with a dist-upgrade, but my question tonight is, can I go from like debian 3.1 to ubuntu 5.10?
[06:04] <dieman> aztek: is it a driverloader or ndiswrapper setup?
[06:04] <westyvw> no who will only reuturnb ME
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> meepus, I am having problems with download bandwidth and azureus
[06:04] <oga> i've got about an 8GB partition.... how big should the swap / etc be?
[06:04] <FliesLikeABrick> k
[06:04] <aztek> it's a native linux driver
[06:04] <total_assault> swap depends on amount on ram
[06:04] <dieman> aztek: thats nice at least
[06:04] <haselden> oga: how much ram?
[06:04] <westyvw> ssh log ins are not listed by who
[06:04] <aztek> yeah
[06:04] <modzero> good deal. let me know ensign but id say your good now. if you want to get rid of that logo at startup its easily edited into your xorg.conf file
[06:04] <meepus> colonelkernel: what kinda problems
[06:04] <total_assault> usually its 1.5-2x the ram
[06:04] <meepus> not enough bandwidth?
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, you need to run memtest
[06:04] <ubuntuking> hello all
[06:04] <meepus> I can't help you there ;)
[06:04] <westyvw> trying to see if they are running processes with top
[06:04] <meepus> call verizon and get fios
[06:04] <aztek> i can never remember the name of it
[06:05] <total_assault> meepus: i wish i could
[06:05] <westyvw> but then again that wont tell me cause they technically are faking bvia ssh
[06:05] <haselden> westyvw: ps -ef | grep ssh
[06:05] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: I don't mind the logo.  It comes and goes very quickly... much faster than it did in warty.
[06:05] <alsyr> ok
[06:05] <meepus> total_assault: me too -_-
[06:05] <westyvw> q
[06:05] <meepus> they want this thing called 'money'
[06:05] <ColonelKernel> meepus, im having a hell of a time getting more than 40kB/s and im on 3mbps cable - even on the brezy torrent I only get 30-40
[06:05] <FliesLikeABrick> ColonelKernel,  see the topic ?
[06:05] <meepus> I'm getting 150 kbps on the breezy torrent right now
[06:05] <JMSunseri> breezy is freezing on boot when it tried to start up the hotplug subsystem
[06:05] <total_assault> meepus: their pricing is a little odd though jumps from $60-200
[06:05] <niggpie> johnny.. alright I used apt-cdrom add to select the cdrom drive for apt-get.. although it's not locating xorg-driver-fglrx...
[06:05] <meepus> have you checked to see if azureus is throttling your bandwidth?
[06:05] <westyvw> haselden  that gives me /usr/bin/sshd
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> FliesLikeABrick, what does that have to do with bittorrent?
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> oh sorry ColonelKernel  didn't realize you were talking about torrents
[06:06] <haselden> does it tell you who's on it?
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> just realized that
[06:06] <theblue> FliesLikeABrick: You have the best nick EVAR.
[06:06] <meepus> total_assault: is that pricing range... or just, after a couple months, it jumps like that
[06:06] <aztek> ah
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> tis cool
[06:06] <aztek> it uses the acx111 driver
[06:06] <westyvw> no cause the user is technically ssh
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> ColonelKernel, i thought you were talking about apt like everyone else :P
[06:06] <haselden> hmm
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks theblue  i've had it for years
[06:06] <total_assault> meepus: no its $40 for a package around the speed of cable
[06:06] <anthony> How do you start a private chat with somebody?
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> wait a minute
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> I can use apt to upgrade?
[06:06] <total_assault> meepus: then 15/2 is $60
[06:06] <thenuke> anthony: /query nickname
[06:06] <anthony> thenuke: Thanks.
[06:06] <westyvw> i think i see a user
[06:06] <meepus> total_assault: ah, gotcha
[06:06] <JMSunseri> im very pissed the gnome 2.12 live cd worked just fine and that is based on ubuntu
[06:07] <total_assault> meepus: and 30/4 is 200
[06:07] <meepus> total_assault: so it's different package prices
[06:07] <dieman> aztek: is it acx100?
[06:07] <theblue> Gnome 2.12?
[06:07] <theblue> It has a live CD?
[06:07] <westyvw> trying to see who has changed files in home directory's
[06:07] <tritium> JMSunseri, why is that bad?
[06:07] <Toba> that sucked
[06:07] <theblue> As in, a standalone live cd?
[06:07] <ColonelKernel> yeah gentoo doesnt even have gnome 2.12 ready to go yet - or gcc4
[06:07] <EnsignRedshirt> I installed breezy on a brand new hard drive that I added to my computer.  The old drive, with warty, is still there.  Can I simply copy my evolution directory from my old home dir to my new home dir and expect it to work?
[06:07] <total_assault> mepus: i think it jumps too much it should be $100-120 for the 30/4 cause i really want that top one :)
[06:07] <JMSunseri> tritium, breezy lockes up on hotplug system start
[06:07] <thenuke> anthony: you can also do /msg nick message, if you want to send just one private message or so, although some irc-clients open up a query-window with that command too..
[06:07] <theblue> EnsignRedshirt: I don't see why not.
[06:07] <modzero> westy just kill ssh and then secure your box. but i beleive ssh would be showing as a group
[06:07] <aztek> no it's acx111
[06:07] <theblue> EnsignRedshirt: Though I could be wrong.
[06:07] <spackest> so I just scp'd my breezy conf to a debian 3.1 box, can I apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade and switch to breezy?
[06:07] <meepus> total_assault: there's no competition, so they can drive the price artificially high
[06:08] <modzero> i dont enable it but i do run ftp with pureftpd
[06:08] <westyvw> modzero i hear you
[06:08] <meepus> total_assault: but I would much like the same :)
[06:08] <westyvw> modzero but i have about a dozen users, this one was just acting veryy odd
[06:08] <ColonelKernel> meepus, got any advice for me to improve my BT download speed in azureus?
[06:08] <total_assault> meepus: theres always ds3
[06:08] <mister_roboto> ColonelKernel: that's what I did
[06:08] <JMSunseri> now my computer is useless cause it wont boot
[06:08] <meepus> ds3?
[06:09] <westyvw> i just realized that he is on dial up and thats why his stay is so long.
[06:09] <total_assault> its a 55mbps connection for $2500 a mont
[06:09] <modzero> id help more but im not familiar with ssh :( ftp i can have virt users and groups can be blocked to directorys etc limited access etc.
[06:09] <meepus> colonelkernel: I asked before, did you check to see if azureus is throttling your downspeed?
[06:09] <FliesLikeABrick> 10gbps ftw
[06:09] <Chinaman> breezy is great
[06:09] <westyvw> yeah i need to set up access by knowing the user , thats in the works
[06:09] <dooglus> I can't get postfix to work :(
[06:09] <erikcore> can anyone help me install transcode on breezy?
[06:09] <total_assault> what campus
[06:09] <ColonelKernel> meepus, it isnt, im throttling my upspeed but that shouldnt make any difference
[06:09] <erikcore> msg me if you can
[06:09] <westyvw> BTW thanks ubuntu folks
[06:09] <FliesLikeABrick> total_assault,  RPI in troy,NY
[06:09] <FliesLikeABrick> www.rpi.edu
[06:09] <JMSunseri> can i disable hotplug before boot time?
[06:10] <meepus> colonelkernel: are you noticing it as a solid cap... does the number not exceed 40 kb/s, for instance?
[06:10] <westyvw> You just helped work on a Redhat 7.3 box, LOL. Need to change that over soon...............................
[06:10] <theblue> I have an idea.
[06:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i guess i can just go to bed and hope i've updated to breezy tomorrow.
[06:10] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: hah
[06:10] <theblue> Let's open up #ubuntu-newbies for people who are truly new to Ubuntu and Linux.
[06:10] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: is your port 6881 open?
[06:10] <Chinaman> w00t
[06:10] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: rpi has two OC3's, not an OC192
[06:10] <modzero> port forwarding colonel?
[06:10] <ColonelKernel> meepus, download is usually at 40, and will occasionally go as high as 60
[06:10] <dieman> aztek: hrm, im not even seeing people talk about it on the mailing list
[06:10] <total_assault> what kind of sustained connection speeds you get i would think theres a terrible bottleneck on the server side
[06:10] <FliesLikeABrick> derf whats your source?
[06:11] <dooglus> and, ColonelKernel, throttling upspeed does make a difference.
[06:11] <meepus> what kind of router are you using?
[06:11] <erikcore> anyone know anything about getting transcode working?  i'm dying here
[06:11] <modzero> colonel the pretty dot next to the torreent is it green or yellow or blue?
[06:11] <dieman> at WEP on the ACX111 chipset.
[06:11] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: I graduated from there 2 years ago, and still know a bunch of people that work at the VCC
[06:11] <ColonelKernel> meepus, linksys wrt54g with sveasoft firmware
[06:11] <dieman> ack
[06:11] <haselden> erikcore: see private message
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> ah
[06:11] <dieman> aztek: you may want to think about another card if you really have to do WPA, like an atheros or something
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> derf i'm 99% sure it shares an OC192 with suny albany
[06:11] <ColonelKernel> ok ill unthrottle the upstream and see if it works
[06:11] <dieman> aztek: or it sounds like driverloader may work
[06:11] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, I-2
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> yes
[06:12] <total_assault> i get this error trying to make ndiswrapper "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver \
[06:12] <total_assault>         NDISWRAPPER_VERSION=1.2rc1 \
[06:12] <total_assault>         EXTRA_VERSION= modules
[06:12] <total_assault> make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[06:12] <total_assault> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic'
[06:12] <dieman> aztek: but then you're using windows drivers ;)
[06:12] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: but that won't get you anywhere
[06:12] <total_assault> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver'.  Stop.
[06:12] <total_assault> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic'
[06:12] <aztek> i'd rather do wpa than wep
[06:12] <jaramillo> is there a way to add "Open Terminal" to the right-click-desktop-menu ?
[06:12] <modzero> colonel are you having nat errors?
[06:12] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: I was stuck it 10k down when I was throttling the up to 3k.  I stopped throttling and got 250Kb down
[06:12] <nalioth> jaramillo: install nautilus-open-terminal
[06:12] <FliesLikeABrick> derf so are we on dual OC3 or OC192?
[06:12] <aztek> but i can use a linksys and do ndis for now
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> jaramillo, yeah nautilus-open-terminal - I think you can apt-get it
[06:12] <dieman> aztek: yeah, i do wpa here now...
[06:12] <total_assault> srry i thought it would post as one line
[06:12] <tritium> total_assault, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:12] <dieman> aztek: heh
[06:12] <jaramillo> wow, cool guys, thx ;D
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> dooglus, how long should it take for speed to improve?
[06:12] <dieman> aztek: some of the netgear cards are atheros
[06:12] <total_assault> tritium: did
[06:12] <meepus> ColonelKernel: uncap your upspeed just to be safe, but also make sure you're the DMZ host
[06:13] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: dual OC3s to the internet, (possibly) an OC192 to internet2, which is like 0 content other than other academic campuses
[06:13] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: you should see an immediate effect - slow but sure
[06:13] <dieman> aztek: hard to find cards that are ok with linux and wpa_supplicant in the store :|
[06:13] <aztek> yeah
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> ah ok derf yeah
[06:13] <meepus> ColonelKernel: go to http://192.168.1.1 then go to applications and gaming, and go to the DMZ submenu
[06:13] <Eppu> total_assault: you need to install gcc-3.4
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> but derf  there are a lot of linux mirrors on i2
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> which is good
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> very fast
[06:13] <meepus> colonelkernel: and make sure that your local IP is set there
[06:13] <dieman> aztek: and sometimes you have to buy the expensive ones (ie: not $20) to get the right chipset
[06:13] <aztek> i have a 2 cards and two laptops, so i'm not looking to buy more. i'll figure out something that works for me for now
[06:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Mmmmm....  herrings....   (tuxracer runs fine)
[06:13] <dieman> aztek: luckily most people just have ipw2200 or something in their laptops now
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> derf berkely is on I2 and they host one of the debian apt repositories
[06:13] <Laforge38> could i still use it if someone sent me the file bcmwl5a.inf and .sys or no?
[06:14] <erikcore> haselden: i'm new to xchat and i'm not getting any private messages as far as i can tell
[06:14] <total_assault> eppu: alrite i had gcc installed but installing that now
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> and derf, if not for content, you still have the low latency of that and everything, not to mention the filesharing we're notorious for
[06:14] <Eppu> total_assault: the default gcc is 4.0.1
[06:14] <haselden> erikcore: check the tabs
[06:14] <haselden> should see one from me?
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> derf what was your major(s) ?
[06:14] <total_assault> eppu: o alrite gotcha ty
[06:14] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: you've got one locally, too.  the ACM has one.  mirrors.acm.cs.rpi.edu
[06:14] <dieman> FliesLikeABrick, derf, etc: i did turn down the max conenctions on mirror.cs.umn.edu -- so there may be a wait but the b/w should be reasonable after it starts up.
[06:14] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: CS
[06:14] <erikcore> haselden: i don't have any tabs opening here
[06:15] <_FR0D0> cafuego_, now im testing and even in a console (<ctr>+<alt>+<Fn>) the dead keys didn't work
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> derf, awesome
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> dieman who are you?
[06:15] <aztek> he's dieman
[06:15] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: graduated in '03, and I'm working just outside of Boston now.
[06:15] <Eppu> total_assault: does the ndiswrapper from ubuntu not work on your system, because you are compiling one?
[06:15] <dieman> FliesLikeABrick: what do you mean?
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> derf i'm a sophomore for CSE/EE but i'm thinking of going CSE/IT
[06:15] <dieman> FliesLikeABrick: name? or what is my deal, or what?
[06:15] <modzero> lol
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> dieman what is your deal, you said you turned down the max connections ?
[06:16] <haselden> erikcore: have you modified your apt sources file?  transcode is available via apt
[06:16] <dieman> FliesLikeABrick: i thought you guys were looking for a mirror on i2 that didn't suck ;)
[06:16] <dieman> or one of you
[06:16] <dieman> was looking int he scrollback
[06:16] <dieman> we're getting hammered too still though
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> dieman are you affiliated with the rpi mirror or something?
[06:16] <erikcore> haselden: yeah, i added the ones listed on the dvd::rip site
[06:16] <dieman> FliesLikeABrick: i was talking about mirror.cs.umn.edu, rather
[06:17] <total_assault> how do you check the kernel you have installed?
[06:17] <erikcore> haselden: i even tried to build from a tarball but i'm getting all sorts of problems
[06:17] <haselden> total_assault: uname -a
[06:17] <tritium> total_assault, check it for what?
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> dieman question stands though, do you manage that mirror or something?
[06:17] <haselden> gives you the kernel name
[06:17] <cafuego_> total_assault: 'uname -r' for the current running one.
[06:17] <tritium> The version number?  uname -r
[06:17] <zax> i can not figure out how to install real player
[06:17] <total_assault> ok
[06:17] <dieman> FliesLikeABrick: no, have nothing to do with the rpi stuff, only umn
[06:17] <haselden> erikcore: i just apt-get'ed dvdrip today and it works....hang on
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> dieman thats what im talking about now
[06:17] <cafuego_> total_assault: see also 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep linux-image' for all installed ones.
[06:17] <EnsignRedshirt> modzero: Thanks for your help.  Later.
[06:18] <total_assault> ok i got 2.6.12-9
[06:18] <modzero> np
[06:18] <zax> it wont let me put the download into the /root
[06:18] <zojak> 550 KB/s on bittorrent nice
[06:18] <total_assault> is the compiler different for 64 bit?
[06:18] <erikcore> haselden: it's saying i need transcode and i can't install that either, apt-get or build from source
[06:18] <cafuego_> total_assault: Yep, that's the latest one for breezy.
[06:18] <modzero> need permissions
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> derf i keep trying to get a job in the vcc but they keep shunning me and blowing me off
[06:18] <cafuego_> total_assault: No, still gcc-3.4 (for the kernel) and gcc-4.0 for userspace.
[06:18] <_native_> you dont DL to /root
[06:18] <zax> i am supposed to be the admin what do i do
[06:18] <_native_> zax
[06:18] <erikcore> haselden: infact, transcode seems to be the big problem
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> derf i gave them an application last year and got nowhere
[06:19] <modzero> lol
[06:19] <haselden> erikcore: you running breezy or hoary?
[06:19] <zax> it just downloads to desktop by default
[06:19] <total_assault> how to force compile with gcc3.4 if i have gcc4 installed too/
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> derf did you work in there?
[06:19] <cafuego_> zax: Make a directory in your hoemdir and dump the download there.
[06:19] <ubuntuguy> anthony: OK, thanks I installed mozilla-mplayer.... now for the codecs!
[06:19] <derf> FliesLikeABrick: no, and I'm pretty sure we're way off topic
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> derf mhm we are
[06:19] <anthony> !tell ubuntuguy about w32codec
[06:19] <niggpie> Ok i'm getting frustrated. Breezy doesn't like my ATI 9200SE. Can't boot into Ubuntu, all I get is a black screen and a mouse cursor. I can't use apt-get because I dont' have a wired internet connection. I tried apt-cdrom add to direct apt-get to the cdrom drive, but it can't find the xorg-driver-fglrx package i need to get the 9200 workin. Any ideas?
[06:19] <anthony> !tell ubuntuguy about w32codecs
[06:19] <cafuego_> FliesLikeABrick/derf: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <erikcore> haselden: breezy
[06:19] <James686> someone answer this, is aLinux easy to install, and is it worth downloading?
[06:20] <ubuntuguy> anthony: why not?
[06:20] <cafuego_> James686: Yes, we like Ubuntu.
[06:20] <total_assault> how do i uninstall gcc4 (i install my apt-get install gc)
[06:20] <total_assault> gcc*
[06:20] <meepus> niggpie: spend 20 dollars on a poor nvidia card
[06:20] <modzero> ubuntu  good
[06:20] <meepus> ;0
[06:20] <modzero> goooood
[06:20] <SillyCone> Whenever I log out of Gnome I get a dozen of warnings like "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" ..and so on. What does it mean?
[06:20] <cafuego_> total_assault: 'sudo apt-get remove gcc'
[06:20] <modzero> lol meeps
[06:20] <total_assault> k
[06:20] <gnomefreak> James686, ubuntu is very easy to install and i like it
[06:20] <spackest> strange, I like ubuntu, too :)
[06:20] <niggpie> meepus haha, anyone want to play tradesies?
[06:20] <modzero> meepus just give him your old mx
[06:20] <haselden> erikcore: do you have universe uncommented in your sources.list?
[06:20] <modzero> lol spack
[06:20] <meepus> my old mx
[06:20] <meepus> haha
[06:20] <meepus> it's somewhere
[06:20] <meepus> in a drawer
[06:21] <cafuego_> total_assault: You cna also use the synaptic package manager to select packages for removal.
[06:21] <meepus> with a sticky note that says
[06:21] <niggpie> haha!
[06:21] <meepus> "do not use"
[06:21] <zax> cafuego_ and then what
[06:21] <haselden> erikcore: i didn't add any external ones...just uncommented the universe/multiverse
[06:21] <modzero> lol
[06:21] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Check your private message.
[06:21] <James686> well I cant use Ubuntu cuz it wont automatically detect my Nvidia GeforceFX 5500 graphics card and Linksys wireless network card...
[06:21] <niggpie> but, is it in an anti-static bag, or stuffed underneath your sock drawer?
[06:21] <tritium> meepus, try periods for punctuation, rather than hitting enter all the time
[06:21] <niggpie> :)
[06:21] <ubuntuguy> anthony: ok, got it. thanks!
[06:21] <James686> so would aLinux be better for me?
[06:21] <modzero> james your 5500 should be detected
[06:21] <meepus> tritium, the internet is not the place to get anal about grammar
[06:21] <cafuego_> zax: You cna tell firefox to download to that directory by default. Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads
[06:21] <meepus> I'm a journalism major.
[06:21] <tritium> meepus, there are too many people, and the SNR is too low to flood the channel like that
[06:21] <anethema> does anyone know if there are any video card overclocking utils for linux? for ati perhaps?
[06:22] <James686> no it doesnt detect it automatically...
[06:22] <erikcore> haselden: i uncommented both, and i've googled the shit out of this problem... it doesn't seem like a lot of people are having luck with transcode
[06:22] <johnny> argh.. i try to install lpr and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <zax> I already downloaded them but it wants it to be in root or something
[06:22] <modzero> are you on a laptop james?
[06:22] <James686> no
[06:22] <cafuego_> James686: You're asking the wrong channel. We use Ubuntu. So we'd recommend Ubuntu. We don't use aLinux. Try #alinux
[06:22] <tony_the_cable_g> Question about installing Flash Player in Breezy.
[06:22] <modzero> so its a standard 500 agp card?
[06:22] <meepus> Your wish is my command, but just know that it's only because I'm a benevolent person.  With a freakin' halo over my head.
[06:22] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Okay, so go to "http://tinyurl.com/87ofx", and click on the ".torrent" link besides "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb". Firefox should open prompt you to open or save the torrent, you can open it with the Ubuntu's internal BT client and save the DEB file to a place of your preference. Let me know after you have completed the download.
[06:22] <haselden> erikcore: maybe i got lucky.?? i did it a few hours ago, and dvdrip pops up for me
[06:22] <modzero> oh he said alinux?
[06:23] <spackest> I am getting like 30k/s from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com too by the way
[06:23] <modzero> well in that case. get ubuntu
[06:23] <James686> I use a Dell Dimension 2400 wand it has a Intel P 4 w/ 2.23gHZ processor and I have 760MB of RAM
[06:23] <cafuego_> modzero: Yes, he seems a tad slow.
[06:23] <tritium> meepus, thanks, it helps in a busy channel like this.  We appreciate it.
[06:23] <erikcore> damn, i've spent hours on this
[06:23] <modzero> next
[06:23] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: Are you asking how to install flash plug-in for Mozilla Firefox?
[06:23] <tony_the_cable_g> Yes anthony.
[06:23] <cafuego_> James686: Ubuntu breezy will run *perfectly* on that.
[06:23] <James686> ok
[06:23] <ColonelKernel> meepus, whats the apt command to upgrade - apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:23] <total_assault> :( install gcc-3.4 same error oot@ubuntu-pavel:/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1# make make -C driver make[1] : Entering directory `/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver' make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver \ NDISWRAPPER_VERSION=1.2rc1 \ EXTRA_VERSION= modules make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic' ma
[06:23] <total_assault> ke[2] : *** No rule to make target `Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver'. Stop. make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic' make[1] : *** [default]  Error 2 make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/paul/My Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.2rc1/driver' make: *** [all]  Error 2
[06:23] <modzero> yeah james really get ubuntu your video card will thank you for it.
[06:24] <meepus> frankly, I've never seen an unmoderated channel with upwards of 100 people in it before, not to even touch upwards of 600
[06:24] <cafuego_> total_assault: Please don't paste here.
[06:24] <James686> well I have the CD of version 5.04 and that doesnt work...
[06:24] <modzero> of ubuntu?
[06:24] <cafuego_> James686: How does it not work?
[06:24] <tony_the_cable_g> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[06:24] <tony_the_cable_g> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[06:24] <modzero> did you download it?
[06:24] <alsyr> ColonelKernel:what is the memtest for (i am running it) and how do i proceed from there ?
[06:24] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: Simply go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Packet manager and then type "flash" in the search string.
[06:24] <tony_the_cable_g> Thats what I am getting now. I dont know the path.
[06:24] <James686> it goes to an Xorg blue screen error thing that it cant detect the screen display...
[06:24] <meepus> alsyr: he probably wanted you to check to make sure your RAM wasn't made of potato chips
[06:24] <mike42> i gotta small problem
[06:24] <cafuego_> total_assault: There are ndiswrapper packages. use those instead.
[06:24] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: Are you looking for flash plug-in for Firefox or Opera?
[06:24] <modzero> ok james,,, did you download the cd or order it?
[06:25] <haselden> erikcore: try doing a /msg haselden hello
[06:25] <meepus> alsyr: in the event of potato chips, it's reccomended that you buy new ram
[06:25] <tony_the_cable_g> Firefox
[06:25] <alsyr> meepus: ok
[06:25] <James686> ordered them
[06:25] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, reboot, type in memtest at the prompt, if you can figure out how, run the extensive test, it sounds like youve got a memory error
[06:25] <zax> The file /home/zax/untitled folder/rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm does not exist, or it is corrupt. You may have downloaded the wrong file, or put it in the wrong location. Please try again.
[06:25] <mike42> i wanna install the drivers for my ati vid card
[06:25] <modzero> them... have you tried other cd's then? i take it you have.
[06:25] <FliesLikeABrick> zax from install cd?
[06:25] <James686> I ordered like 20 of them lol
[06:25] <cafuego_> James686: *nod* so it doesn't autodetect the correct resolution. That should be fairly trivial to fix.
[06:25] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: Then just go to Synaptic Package Manager and type "flashplayer-mozilla" into the search string.
[06:25] <mike42> but i can only find rpms for them
[06:25] <johnny> argh.. anybody here tried lrp ?
[06:26] <zax> from install aplication for real player
[06:26] <tritium> total_assault, use pastebin or #flood next time please
[06:26] <johnny> err lpr
[06:26] <cafuego_> James686: Do you know what kind of vga chip it has?
[06:26] <anthony> johnny: Are you having trouble with printers?
[06:26] <tritium> !tell ColonelKernel about breezy
[06:26] <James686> Verto? I dunno if thats it lol
[06:26] <meepus> does breezy come with decent driver support for ATI, as far as linux goes anyway?  I just want to be able to play divx and run my desktop at 1024x768
[06:26] <erikcore> haselden: private messages are disabled for unregistered users
[06:26] <zax> the rpm is in there is my syntax wrong or something?
[06:26] <johnny> apt-cache search flashplayer dosn't give me any results
[06:26] <erikcore> that solves that problem
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> thanks tritium
[06:26] <modzero> pny
[06:26] <mike42> the card is a 9550, which means the chip is a slow 9600
[06:26] <johnny> yes.. i'm having trouble with printers :)
[06:26] <haselden> erikcore: ok...that's prolly why you weren't getting mine
[06:26] <bz0b> hey guys
[06:27] <bz0b> i was wondering
[06:27] <johnny> i have to use lpr drivers with this printer
[06:27] <bjv> ColonelKernel:
[06:27] <bjv> sed 's/[hH] oary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > output && cp output /etc/apt/sources.list; pt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -y --force-yes
[06:27] <weob> yippie yay got wow running on linux so happy
[06:27] <tritium> meepus, decent is a good choice of words, since it's not quite as wells-supported as nvidia (thanks to ATI)
[06:27] <bjv> ;)
[06:27] <johnny> and then a cups wrapper driver
[06:27] <bz0b> if the new breezy has more support for pci express
[06:27] <modzero> possibly an unprobed monitor issue
[06:27] <tritium> !tell meepus about ati
[06:27] <zax> flieslikeabrick: do u know?
[06:27] <anthony> meepus: You need to install the package "xorg-driver-fglrx" from the Synaptic Packet Manager.
[06:27] <modzero> james ahve you run linux before?
[06:27] <modzero> have rather
[06:27] <anthony> johnny: So you have successfully installed the printer?
[06:27] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: i ran memtest from the boot menu. is the same as running it from the prompt ?
[06:27] <bjv> ColonelKernel: hang on, that line is missing an 'a' somewhere. :P
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> holy crap thats easy
[06:27] <mike42> tried that, stil not working right
[06:27] <tritium> ColonelKernel, :)
[06:27] <bz0b> tritium, does the 5.10 have more pci express drivers?
[06:27] <James686> I was able to run Xandros on this...lol
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> thank you tritium!
[06:27] <dimm> hi
[06:27] <tritium> Sure thing, ColonelKernel :)
[06:27] <James686> nothin else
[06:28] <meepus> thanks tritium
[06:28] <total_assault> tritium: how do those work?
[06:28] <James686> everything else fails...
[06:28] <tritium> bz0b, not sure, haven't checked them out
[06:28] <dimm> how do I install the mysqli ewxtension for php5?
[06:28] <tritium> total_assault, which?
[06:28] <tony_the_cable_g> It says no packages found.
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, yes, do the extended test
[06:28] <tritium> no problem, meepus
[06:28] <johnny> anthony, no ..
[06:28] <total_assault> the pastebin and #flood
[06:28] <tony_the_cable_g> It says no packages found.
[06:28] <bz0b> tritium, arg... well, then i guess its to trial and error, but i hope so
[06:28] <johnny> i have to install lpr
[06:28] <cafuego_> James686: intel integrated graphics from the looks of it.
[06:28] <johnny> but it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:28] <anthony> johnny: What is the brand and model of your printer?
[06:28] <johnny> brother mfc-3320CN
[06:28] <tony_the_cable_g> It says no packages found.
[06:28] <johnny> i have the instructions
[06:29] <meepus> AH!  My installation cd finished downloading :)  Wish me luck, I'm on my way into breezy :D
[06:29] <James686> yes I have that as well...
[06:29] <tritium> total_assault, oh, pastebin is a website where you can paste text, and then give us the URL so we can help you out.  #flood is an IRC channel with the same purpose
[06:29] <tritium> the idea is not to paste in here, as it's too busy, total_assault
[06:29] <total_assault> ok
[06:29] <nalioth> tony_the_cable_g: is your keyboard stuck?
[06:29] <erikcore> anyone know anything about fixing transcode for breezy?
[06:29] <anthony> johnny: Okay, just give me a sec, let me look at their documentations.
[06:29] <cafuego_> total_assault: There are precompiled ndisrwapper driver and utility packages. ANy reason you're not just using those?
[06:29] <tony_the_cable_g> Im sorry.....
[06:29] <modzero> james hang tight for a sec maybe i can help you out here. your card is compatible though im sure of that
[06:29] <johnny> anthony, want links?
[06:29] <James686> aight
[06:29] <total_assault> i just installed them hehe thanks a lot
[06:29] <tony_the_cable_g> The screen moved up.....I'm tired.
[06:29] <cafuego_> total_assault: cool :-)
[06:29] <James686> well Im gettin aLinux just in case lol
[06:29] <ubuntuguy> anthony: I tried playing a quicktime trailer, and firefox complains that totem can't open it... do I need to uninstall Totem?
[06:29] <plumpkin> sorry if this has already been asked, but i installed the Breezy preview release a couple weeks ago, do i have to do anything other than install the updates that pop up automatically in order to be fully up to date now that the final has been released?
[06:29] <anthony> johnny: I got it.
[06:30] <nalioth> plumpkin: you're all set
[06:30] <starz> \o/
[06:30] <starz> <3 --rbind
[06:30] <plumpkin> nalioth, thanks :)
[06:30] <cafuego_> James686: Most likely when you tried 5.04 the gfx chip was too new. I expect it will be detected and is supported just fine in 5.10.
[06:30] <gigaclon> how to make a simlink?
[06:30] <James686> maybe
[06:30] <chjchjchj> Tried to install, but application installgave some error...don't know if desktop is installed...only have command prompt...need help getting started please
[06:30] <James686> but grrr, Im runnin out of CD-R's...:-(
[06:30] <starz> so! how do i set my second hdd // folder i linked it to so that all users on system can read/write not just write to it?
[06:31] <cafuego_> James686: I'd give breezy a try first .. it's VERY nice.
[06:31] <James686> cuz I know it doesnt work well w/ CD-RW's...
[06:31] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: You need to enable the repositories, open up a Terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and enter the password as it prompts you. You'll get a new text editor page.
[06:31] <ColonelKernel> will it matter if I keep the gui running while I update?
[06:31] <tony_the_cable_g> Whats the path to Firefox? I can finish the install with the package I down loaded.
[06:31] <chjchjchj> ...can someone tell me how to install a simple text IRC so I can connect to here from within ubuntu and then try stuff?
[06:31] <James686> is it a complete makeover on the desktop or somethin???
[06:31] <starz> chjchjchj::
[06:31] <starz> do you have in only the server version?
[06:31] <gigaclon> chjchjchj, its called irssi
[06:31] <johnny> chjchjchj,   apt-get installer irssi
[06:31] <starz> b/c xchat is included
[06:31] <johnny> err install
[06:31] <kaschei> James686, apt-get install bitchx
[06:31] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: I do not know, I installed my Flash plug-in from Synaptic, I'm sorry.
[06:31] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey, guys.
[06:31] <modzero> its probably installed already chjch
[06:31] <bjv> the breezy "backports" repo will not come into existence until packages are being made for Agitated Aardvark right?
[06:32] <kaschei> sorry
[06:32] <kaschei> chjchjchj, apt-get install bitchx
[06:32] <kaschei> it's a text IRC
[06:32] <bjv> should i just comment that out of my sources.list?
[06:32] <johnny> i can't find it in synaptic myself.. even after uncommenting universe
[06:32] <cafuego_> starz: but xchat is crap.
[06:32] <Crys_Ubu_PC> what does it mean when fsck fails and it asks me to fix it manually?
[06:32] <chjchjchj> ok thx all, will try all those ideas and reconnect with more questions :-)
[06:32] <johnny> and running update
[06:32] <gigaclon> cafuego_, why?
[06:32] <Amaranth> cafuego_: But it's the best we have. :)
[06:32] <modzero> k james im hopin you have cable or adsl?
[06:32] <cafuego_> johnny: Did you update the package lists after enabling universe/multiverse?
[06:32] <cafuego_> gigaclon: it's slow, it needs X.
[06:33] <tony_the_cable_g> It did bring up a Text box....now what do I do?
[06:33] <ColonelKernel> too bad no ones ever made a bittorrent client for system upgrades - would take a lot of pressure off of centralized update servers.
[06:33] <James686> downstairs, yes, up here, this is using a wireless network card from Linksys
[06:33] <James686> would that be a problem?
[06:33] <kaschei> Is there a fix for having lots, and lots, and lots of broken dependencies after apt-get dist-upgrade?  Many of my packages are held back and I cannot install xorg-fglrx package
[06:33] <Dekkard> anyone haveing trouble with the java sdk?
[06:33] <starz> lol cafuego
[06:33] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Go to Synaptic and uninstall the packages "totem", "libtotem-plparser0", "totem-gstreamer", (and "totem-xine" if you have that installed). Then try again.
[06:33] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: I think you'll find apt-bt is actually in development (or was a while ago...)
[06:33] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: Is that memory error possible ? knoppix seems to run fine on the computer.
[06:33] <erikcore> exit
[06:33] <modzero> james are you able to get online with your wifi and download a copy of breezy?
[06:33] <starz> how do i change write permission on a folder thats linked to a hdd?
[06:33] <ColonelKernel> cafuego, right on\
[06:34] <gigaclon> cafuego, but most people like gui-based IRC clients ( like myself)
[06:34] <James686> yes Im using the same computer right now
[06:34] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: DISCLAIMER: Nothing I say should be trusted. Ever.
[06:34] <jrattner1> Whats the command to reconfigure X...dpkg --reconfigure xorg-xorg?
[06:34] <cafuego_> gigaclon: Most people use windows, that doesn't mean windows is any good ;-)
[06:34] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <starz> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <starz> dam
[06:34] <kaschei> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:34] <starz> u win XD
[06:34] <cafuego_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <anthony> johnny: Are you running on MAC?
[06:34] <ColonelKernel> cafuego, will you please send me some money?
[06:35] <modzero> im running hoary myself with a higher card than yours right now, but there may be something in your chipset, its a pny i beleive and ive had some issues with their hardware before. grab a copy of breezy and you should be good to go here. and im willing to bet youll enjoy ubuntu
[06:35] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: sure
[06:35] <gigaclon> cafuego, what would recommend for a gui based IRC client then?
[06:35] <johnny> no
[06:35] <tony_the_cable_g> now what do I do with that anthony?
[06:35] <wolki> is there a way to find out which libwnck application name a certain window has?
[06:35] <ColonelKernel> nice
[06:35] <tritium> ColonelKernel, sudo apt-get install money
[06:35] <cafuego_> gigaclon: xterm -e irssi
[06:35] <anthony> johnny: I don't see Brother providing Linux drivers.
[06:35] <ColonelKernel> I tried that
[06:35] <tritium> :)
[06:35] <ColonelKernel> it didnt work
[06:35] <ColonelKernel> said 404 - money not found
[06:35] <tritium> good one
[06:35] <johnny> anthony, http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_wrapper_install2.html
[06:35] <Nomikos> I'm going to build a little shrine to apt-get. It managed to install breezy no matter what i did; got php5 installed, and got it to talk to mysql 4.1 - which wouldn't even start at first, until i just apt-get'd it (again?). Something which i never managed manually on OSs i work daily with...
[06:35] <ColonelKernel> maybe I shouldnt have used the white house update server..
[06:35] <James686> will version 5.10 be able to detect my wireless network card?
[06:36] <James686> its using a PCI slot
[06:36] <tritium> James686, what chipset?
[06:36] <James686> Linksys?
[06:36] <ubuntuguy> anthony: If I try to remove Totem, synaptic wants to uninstall the ubuntu desktop! I don't think I want to do that, right?
[06:36] <keffynd> Guys, I have a Audigy4 Pro, and there is another device in the list (SigmaTel) in AlsaMixer, I have no idea what the SigmaTel devices is how can I find out
[06:36] <modzero> wifi is tricky in linux. you need to find out what the chipset it
[06:36] <rob^lt> !wireless
[06:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:36] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: Find the line that says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted", remove the "#" and the space before it, then add the word "multiverse" to the end of it with a space between that and "restricted", save the file and exit.
[06:36] <rob^lt> ubotu tell James686 about wireless
[06:36] <modzero> wait rob he needs breezy first
[06:37] <Baxter_Kylie> Hey folks... question -- does anyone else have an issue (or understand what's going wrong) when I click system-->administration-->networking I get the window at the bottom where it say it's 'starting' but then disappears after a few seconds and doesn't start... does anyone else have this?
[06:37] <anthony> ubuntuguy: It won't affect anything else, that's what I have done and my Ubuntu works fine, I'm not sure if this is correct but I think it only uninstalls the element that associates with totem in ubuntu-desktop.
[06:37] <rob^lt> modzero, he should be running breezy
[06:37] <Stadsport> Erm, is this a support channel?
[06:37] <rob^lt> Stadsport, yes
[06:38] <Stadsport> Okay, just making sure.
[06:38] <tritium> Yes, Stadsport
[06:38] <niggpie> How do i find out what hardware 5.10 supports?
[06:38] <modzero> hes trying to get ubuntu
[06:38] <James686> how do I know the model and everything of it?
[06:38] <ubuntuguy> anthony: OK, I'll cross my fingers
[06:38] <rob^lt> modzero, that page will tell him if his wireless card is supported
[06:38] <keffynd> Sigmatel is seemingly IRDA, how can I remove that?
[06:38] <tritium> James686, lspci, if it's pci
[06:38] <Stadsport> I've got 5.04 on my desktop. I just set it up the other day. I'm wondering what's the best way to upgrade to 5.10? Can it "overwrite" the previous Ubuntu install?
[06:38] <icarus> !tell icarus about skype
[06:38] <ColonelKernel> hmm looks like itll just be faster to do this with the cdrom - can I do this with the cdrom iso image or do I actually have to burn the cdrom?
[06:38] <tritium> !tell Stadsport about breezy
[06:38] <rob^lt> Stadsport, see the topic
[06:38] <Stadsport> Awesome, thanks
[06:39] <twoknee> ever since i installed ubuntu on my 64 bit computer though i installed the 32 bit version my computers internal beep will sound every so often.  i dont understand.
[06:39] <anthony> johnny: So which part are you stuck on?
[06:39] <ColonelKernel> twoknee, heat issues?
[06:39] <twoknee> nope no heat issues
[06:39] <James686> well before I download Breezy Im gonna go ahead and give aLinux a shot guys thanks for the help
[06:39] <johnny> installing lpr
[06:40] <johnny> it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <nalioth> johnny: thats fine
[06:40] <twoknee> what is lpr ?
[06:40] <johnny> how is that fine?
[06:40] <cafuego_> twoknee: Any chance the bios is set to complain when the cpu fan is stopped?
[06:40] <nalioth> johnny: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. nothing is being removed that is important
[06:40] <cafuego_> johnny: ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package.
[06:40] <twoknee> cafuego yes there is a chance.
[06:41] <twoknee> its an open computer though its got air
[06:41] <anthony> johnny: CD to the directory that contains the file "mfc210clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.deb" then do "sudo spkg -i --force-all mfc210clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.deb".
[06:41] <tony_the_cable_g> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[06:41] <tony_the_cable_g> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[06:41] <tritium> johnny, cupsys-bsd conflicts with lpr, and it's a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <adiabatic> I'm reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes; how can I find out if I have any conflicting packages installed?
[06:41] <cafuego_> twoknee: ANy chace cool-n-quiet is active, so it might actually stop the fan when it's not hot? :-)
[06:41] <tony_the_cable_g> Like that anthony?
[06:41] <johnny> i need cups
[06:41] <tritium> then don't remove lpr
[06:41] <johnny> hehe
[06:41] <James686> have any of you actually seen the desktop of aLinux?
[06:41] <twoknee> nope that is not enabled
[06:41] <James686> its pretty damn sweet looking
[06:41] <tritium> no, James686.  this is #ubuntu
[06:41] <johnny> James686, will you please be quiet about that
[06:41] <modzero> james this is not an alinux forum
[06:41] <cafuego_> twoknee: Then i dunno...
[06:41] <tritium> please stay on topic
[06:41] <James686> resembles XP but alot better looking
[06:42] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: any idea how long memtest takes ?
[06:42] <modzero> james shhh
[06:42] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: Yes, so now exit the gedit text editor, run Synaptic again and then search for "flashplayer-mozilla", you should be able to see it.
[06:42] <James686> lmao
[06:42] <James686> sry guys
[06:42] <cafuego_> James686: Are you describing a dirty toilet?
[06:42] <James686> couldnt resist
[06:42] <twoknee> alsyr be patient and let it be thorough
[06:42] <anthony> johnny: SO you have downloaded the "cupswrapper driver" right?
[06:42] <James686> no
[06:42] <johnny> i don't know if i need lprng or just lpr
[06:42] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: ok :)
[06:42] <johnny> yep anthony
[06:42] <johnny> but i needed lpr ..  before doing so :)
[06:42] <gigaclon> how do I make a symlink?
[06:42] <Ravensky> mplayer isnt in the repo?
[06:42] <johnny> should i get lprng or lpr ?
[06:42] <din> gn
[06:43] <twoknee> since i have a amd64 processor and i am using 32 bit breezy, what architechture does it think i have ?  i wanted to install mplayer
[06:43] <adiabatic> gigaclon: ln -s
[06:43] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, it depends on the CPU
[06:43] <gigaclon> thanks'
[06:43] <ColonelKernel> and the memory
[06:43] <tritium> johnny, cups has an lpr command replacement
[06:43] <cafuego_> twoknee: i386
[06:43] <twoknee> thank you cafuego
[06:43] <James686> thats more like what Ubuntu 5.04s desktop looks like...a dirty toilet, no offense but its kinda fugly...
[06:43] <johnny> i installed the deb
[06:43] <johnny> lol
[06:43] <tritium> James686, okay, thanks for the input
[06:43] <Chinstrap> twoknee, actually, amd64's in 32bit mode have a full i686 command set
[06:43] <anthony> johnny: So you have installed "mfc210clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.deb" and "cupswrappermfc210c_1.0.0-1_i386.deb" is that correct?
[06:43] <adiabatic> gigaclon: however, there's a difference between relative and absolute symlinks; you might want to try one or the other depending on your needs
[06:44] <johnny> i installed only the lpr thing and ti gave me file missing errors
[06:44] <Chinstrap> twoknee, it also has 3dnow and 3dnowext, so if there is a k7 you can try that too
[06:44] <twoknee> Chinstrap thank you
[06:44] <johnny> i haven't gone farther until i find out if they matter
[06:44] <anthony> johnny: Which file does it say it's missing?
[06:44] <tritium> James686, go ahead and try #24 if you prefer, rather than #1: http://distrowatch.com/
[06:44] <ubuntuguy> anthony: now totem does not complain, but mplayer does not play the trailer
[06:44] <gigaclon> what would be the pros and cons of disabling esd at startup
[06:44] <Chinstrap> twoknee, cat /proc/cpuinfo will show you everything your cpu supports
[06:44] <anthony> ubuntuguy: After you download the win32codecs have you installed it?
[06:45] <modzero> pros youve disabled esd, cons to start it you have to type start again lol
[06:45] <weob> is there a time server that works - the default ones dont seem to
[06:45] <twoknee> Chinstrap i have already commenced the i386 install.  can i dpkg -r mplayer-386 ?  what about its dependencies ?  must get rid of them too
[06:45] <twoknee> through apt-get
[06:45] <ubuntuguy> anthony: I have not installed it yet, how do I do that? deb -i or something ?
[06:45] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: ok
[06:46] <Nomikos> thanks all :-)
[06:46] <Chinstrap> twoknee, you don't need to clear the deps, they will probably remain the same anyway
[06:46] <glick> screw it ill just install breezy from scratch
[06:46] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Open up a new Terminal, "CD" to the directory that contains the w32codec deb file, then type "dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[06:46] <omp> hmm... if i don't comment out the breezy-updates lines in source.list, i get errors when running apt-get update
[06:46] <jrattner1> i'm having trouble getting X to work it is complaining about screens, after configuring using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:46] <johnny> mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/spool/lpd/MFC3320CN': No such file or directory
[06:46] <johnny> chown: cannot access `/var/spool/lpd/MFC3320CN': No such file or directory
[06:46] <twoknee> thank you Chinstrap
[06:46] <anthony> johnny: 1 sec.
[06:46] <Baxter_Kylie> Does anyone have any idea why I can't get the networking application open?
[06:46] <johnny> i thought that was kidna important :)
[06:47] <zchjzchjzch> Back to windoze...sigh...irssi command not found...apt-get install irssi > Package irssi is not avail but is ref to by another pkg...This means that the pkg is missing, has been obsoleted or is only avail from another source. E:Package irssi has no instal
[06:47] <johnny> apt-cache search irssi
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> anthony: OK, that's done
[06:47] <tritium> zchjzchjzch, sounds like you didn't apt-get update?
[06:47] <ColonelKernel> zchjzchjzch, sounds like thats where you belong
[06:47] <jrattner1> Anyone got any clues
[06:47] <Chinstrap> zchjzchjzch, apt-get install irssi-text
[06:47] <zojak> wow 700 kB/s on the bittorrent dl ^_^
[06:47] <nalioth> johnny: irssi is default installed
[06:47] <anthony> ubuntuguy: Now try again.
[06:47] <James686> WOA!
[06:47] <James686> damn...
[06:47] <gigaclon> ubotu, tell me about brezzy
[06:48] <gigaclon> ubotu, tell me about !brezzy
[06:48] <James686> lmao
[06:48] <jrattner1> I wonder why X worked in the last version and not now
[06:48] <eracerbit> !breezy
[06:48] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:48] <James686> spell check man
[06:48] <tritium> James686, please don't taunt people, or I'll remove you
[06:48] <tony_the_cable_g> Its working I believe but now I get an error message.
[06:49] <modzero> just type irc in a terminal
[06:49] <weob> i get unable to contact time server when i hit apply - any ideas?
[06:49] <James686> Im not taunting Im just ...well nvm but I promise Im meaning no harn to anyone Im just in a hyper modd right now
[06:49] <James686> harm*
[06:49] <James686> damn now I need to learn to spell lol
[06:49] <ubuntuguy> anthony: that worked... I'm watching Jarhead now. Thank you!
[06:49] <anthony> tony_the_cable_g: What error message did you get?
[06:50] <anthony> ubuntuguy: You are welcome.
[06:50] <zchjzchjzch> ok will try all of the above///
[06:50] <zchjzchjzch> thanks as always...see you in a bit
[06:50] <tritium> hee hee
[06:50] <interferon> where can i find a step-by-step install guide for ubuntu?
[06:50] <Hendric> im using xfce4... but doesn't have a shutdown option (greyed out).. how can i fix this?
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[06:51] <Hendric> cafuego, can you help me?
[06:51] <cafuego_> Hendric: That depends. I'm not _actually_  qualified sugeon.
[06:51] <twoknee> i am seeing some hostnames here on freenode that are shown as unaffiliated/<blank> could someone explain to me what that means ?
[06:52] <tritium> those are hostmasks
[06:52] <pioneer> twoknee, it means we are unworthy
[06:52] <Hendric> ehehe.. damn XFCE doesn't even have a shutdown option
[06:52] <johnny> anthony, any lidas?
[06:52] <johnny> ideas*
[06:52] <starz> eh
[06:52] <ali_> Tritium, what channel was it that I was just in?
[06:52] <anthony> johnny: Do you already have a Brother LPR driver installed?
[06:52] <ali_> with you and Nalioth
[06:52] <cafuego_> ah xfce, no i dunno....
[06:52] <johnny> no.. i'm trying to install it!
[06:52] <thrice`> someone needs to update the BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:52] <johnny> that's where this error is coming from
[06:52] <thrice`>  Reboot in order to effect all changes (XFree86 to X.org, kernel upgrade, etc.)
[06:52] <tritium> cafuego, I had ubotu send you the SurgeryFAQ wiki page URL
[06:52] <thrice`> just xorg-xorg now
[06:52] <anthony> johnny: And you used --force-all command right?
[06:52] <johnny> yes
[06:53] <nalioth> ali_: /whois nalioth
[06:53] <johnny> but there is no /var/spool/lpr
[06:53] <johnny> cuz i don't have lpr installed :)
[06:53] <johnny> somebody said something about cups having it's own.. but this package doesn't respect that
[06:53] <Chinstrap> johnny, cups replaces lpr
[06:53] <johnny> Chinstrap, i need lpr and then cups wrapper
[06:53] <James686> this might be a stupid question, but honestly, whats the best Linux OS for beginners?
[06:53] <anthony> johnny: Did you do "sudo blah blah blah" or just "blah blah blah"?
[06:53] <johnny> ubuntu is .. that's why i'm using it
[06:53] <twoknee> James686, ubuntu
[06:53] <James686> lol
[06:54] <Hendric> James686, honestly ubuntu..
[06:54] <James686> ok...
[06:54] <johnny> i'm logged in as root
[06:54] <James686> lol
[06:54] <Chinstrap> johnny, cupsys-bsd gives you the wrapper
[06:54] <jrattner1> I'm getting the following error when starting X, VESA(0): No matching modes and below it says it found screens but none are usuable... any ideas?
[06:54] <ali_> thank you
[06:54] <twoknee> as far as i'm concerned its my only linux os
[06:54] <James686> well then the CDs I recieved sucks...lol
[06:54] <tritium> James686, that's not a biased answer, really.  That's part of the reason it's atop the rankings on distrowatch.com
[06:54] <johnny> Chinstrap, yet.. it doesn't create /var/spool/lpr :)
[06:54] <cybernook6> bjf
[06:54] <jrattner1> ubuntu > *
[06:55] <Hendric> jrattner1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- then configure it correctly...
[06:55] <Chinstrap> johnny, it shouldn't, it should be using /var/spool/cups
[06:55] <johnny> Chinstrap,  i'm trying to follow the brother instructions
[06:55] <anthony> johnny: I'm not sure if this is a real solution but can you create that folder yourself and then try to "dpkg" the deb again?
[06:55] <packman_e> hello all
[06:55] <jrattner1> Hendric: I've done, I cant get it to work, I figured VESA would work on anything
[06:55] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey all.
[06:55] <kevogod> I still can't believe that Microsoft went to South Africa.
[06:56] <Hendric> jrattner1, wats your Vcard??
[06:56] <johnny> hmm.. it still says the same thing..
[06:56] <johnny> that's weird..
[06:56] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Would fsck fail if fstab no longer correctly described my disc?
[06:56] <jrattner1> ATI Mobilitity Radeon X6000
[06:56] <erirlar> i have removed windows now and im going to install breezy, but what do i do with GRUB? do i install it in MBR or in /boot --> hda2 ?
[06:56] <jrattner1> Hendric: it used to work in VESA under hoary
[06:56] <niggpie> Johnny, still can't get the fglrx off the 5.10 CD. I used apt-cdrom add to point it to the drive... but no dice..
[06:56] <Amaranth> mbr
[06:56] <_native_> they cant stop linux in africa.
[06:56] <erirlar> ok, thanks
[06:56] <niggpie> is there another method?
[06:56] <johnny> niggpie, i don't know if it's actually on the cd
[06:56] <_native_> hell they just cant stop linux
[06:56] <johnny> niggpie, try sneakernet
[06:56] <jfarrell> k i am having problems installing kde
[06:57] <kevogod> _native_, Microsoft is trying to prevent the spread by offering Windows server for free to South Africa for 3 years.
[06:57] <twoknee> was there a dvd released that is more feature rich than the release date cd ?
[06:57] <modzero> l
[06:57] <jfarrell> i get these erros
[06:57] <anthony> niggpie: I fixed my resolution problem.
[06:57] <twoknee> honestly, i'd hate to start over from scratch
[06:57] <jfarrell> i isntalled kubuntu-desktop and it didnt work
[06:57] <jfarrell> http://pastebin.com/393020
[06:57] <kevogod> _native_, http://p2pnet.net/story/6564
[06:57] <niggpie> ohh haha that might be why :) If I burnt fglrx to a disc of itself, would apt-get see it?
[06:57] <Hendric> jrattner1, does the ATI xserver driver can't get it to work??
[06:57] <Toba> argh...
[06:57] <Toba> nautilus sucks so much
[06:57] <Toba> how can I switch to something that doesn't suck?
[06:57] <ui> how do i change my screenresolution
[06:57] <niggpie> anthony :O you got er working?
[06:57] <jrattner1> Hendric: No, the ATI driver fails, and so does VESA
[06:57] <anthony> johnny: Maybe try to go on first? I'm a new Linux user myself, just started about 4 days ago, so I'm all running out of ideas.
[06:57] <johnny> you can install it manually using dpkg
[06:57] <johnny> oh well you come off pretty good
[06:58] <kevogod> _native_, But free equates to $9000 in Microsoft terminology
[06:58] <jrattner1> Hendric: give me a minute i will try to reconfigure using the ATI driver again
[06:58] <johnny> i've been using it for 3 years.. but not ubuntu.. and never really tried a printer
[06:58] <Hendric> jrattner1, i have a card that doesn't work on a VESA or VGA... but works if i will not enable kernel frame buffering
[06:58] <johnny> maybe the deb is broken
[06:58] <niggpie> ahhh, i'll look into dpkg, thx!
[06:58] <Hendric> jrattner1, it was a Pine nvidia riva TNT2 card
[06:58] <jfarrell> anyone have any ideas
[06:58] <jrattner1> Hendric: hold on
[06:58] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Would fsck fail if fstab no longer correctly described my disc?
[06:58] <ethan-allison> ok so i did the dist-upgrade
[06:58] <zax> Anyone know the file structure system so I canTell the  installer where I downloaded Real Player .rpm
[06:58] <ethan-allison> and now i get
[06:58] <_native_> ive seen to many governets switching to linux, i dont think microsoft can compete with the free software idea.
[06:58] <ethan-allison> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[06:59] <Chinstrap> Crys_Ubu_PC, yes
[06:59] <ethan-allison> how exactly would i fix that?
[06:59] <zax> I keep trying but I keep messing it up
[06:59] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Chinstrap, So is there a utility I can run to fix it, or should I just do it manually?
[06:59] <anthony> niggpie: Yes, open up Terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[06:59] <_native_> its is like the idea of freedom everybody wants to be free.
[06:59] <twoknee> well i bought x86 windows but i think i've outgrown it.
[06:59] <_native_> linux is really unstopable.
[07:00] <zax> may have downloaded the wrong file, or put it in the wrong location. Please try again.
[07:00] <zax>  what do i do
[07:00] <kevogod> Open Source in general, not simply Linux
[07:00] <tritium> anthony, generally, you don't want to edit xorg.conf by hand.  Please use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <ethan-allison> zax: download the right file and put it in the right location :P
[07:00] <niggpie> anthony... ok, what am i editing here?
[07:00] <zax> lol
[07:00] <modzero> d
[07:00] <Chinstrap> Crys_Ubu_PC, System->Administration->Disks
[07:00] <spindley> tritium, why discourage someone from learning linux?
[07:00] <zax> come on how to i install real player dangint!
[07:00] <johnny> ok success i think
[07:00] <Chinstrap> Crys_Ubu_PC, or just edit /etc/fstab, it's pretty simple
[07:00] <ethan-allison> zax: download the rpm
[07:00] <jrattner1> Hendric: after reconfiguring using the ATI driver I get errors about multiple missing Symbols...any ideas
[07:00] <ethan-allison> alien it
[07:01] <tritium> spindley, I'm not at all.  I gave him the preferred method.
[07:01] <gigaclon> zax, try /home/<username>/Desktop
[07:01] <stevenj> using breezy - how can I install flash player for firefox (flashplayer-mozilla or flashplugin-nonfree)?
[07:01] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Chinstrap, Well, since disks doesn't seem to be there, I'm gonna do that.
[07:01] <cafuego_> spindley: randomly editing a config file without knowing what you're doing is not "learning".
[07:01] <Hendric> jrattner1, during the error screen.. view the logs.. and see if some modules are causing the error.. then reconfigure again disabling that module.
[07:01] <twoknee> zax i have the rpm needed that is referenced in the wiki for real player other than that you follow your instructions
[07:01] <anthony> niggpie: Go to line 75, does it say "Driver "ati""?
[07:01] <tritium> zax, /msg ubotu info realplayer
[07:02] <jrattner1> Hendric: How can I tell if the modules are causing the errors?
[07:02] <anthony> tritium: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
[07:02] <zax> ill try that gigaclon, I think when I download it it has a problem opening
[07:02] <ethan-allison> twonkee
[07:02] <ethan-allison> go to real.com
[07:02] <ethan-allison> download the rpm file to some dir
[07:02] <ethan-allison> then go to a terminal
[07:02] <total_assault> thanks a lot guys now chatting through my wireless connection :)
[07:02] <ethan-allison> wait a minute
[07:02] <ethan-allison> it's an instaler file
[07:02] <zax> lemmie try ill be afw
[07:02] <tritium> !info realplayer
[07:02] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[07:02] <ethan-allison> just download the installer and run it
[07:02] <Hendric> jrattner1, during the bluescreen Xserver error.. it will ask you if you wanna see the logs or not
[07:02] <ubuntu> Hello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...
[07:02] <keffynd> why is it always the most mundane of things take ALL day to fix
[07:02] <niggpie> anthony i'll go check, brb!
[07:03] <jrattner1> Hendric: I dont get that screen im invoking startx from the command line
[07:03] <keffynd> somethings that simply should just work....
[07:03] <ethan-allison> when getting Breezy: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[07:03] <ethan-allison> how exactly do i get around that
[07:03] <cjhcjhcjh> yaah, got irssi thanks...so - I think I have a partly installed ubuntu...it downloaded tons of apps but gave an error...how can I get the desktop working?
[07:03] <anthony> niggpie: Okay.
[07:03] <twoknee> ahh ok yes i did do the apt-get however it required a file to be downloaded first which was hard to locate
[07:03] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Okay, now to reboot and see if it worked. Thanks Chinstrap.
[07:03] <total_assault> o guys btw is there anyway to play media files with drm in ubuntu
[07:03] <tritium> ethan-allison, zax the ubuntu package installs realplayer, and keeps it under package management
[07:03] <_native_> is anyone using hardened-ubuntu?
[07:03] <starscalling> Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed.  <<<--- any clue what that error is?
[07:03] <Hendric> jrattner1, .. ah i thought you've done a normal breezy install
[07:03] <anthony> ubuntu: Check here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[07:03] <jrattner1> Hendric: I have
[07:03] <zax> it is supposedly setting it up now, we shall see
[07:04] <Hendric> jrattner1, why not try restarting
[07:04] <zax> I think I was having problems with the syntax "/home/<username>/Desktop" may help
[07:04] <jrattner1> Hendric: alright
[07:04] <ethan-allison> when getting Breezy: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." i tried doing dpkg --configure -a but it give me the same thing
[07:04] <gigaclon> zax, use your username inplace of <username>
[07:04] <twoknee> i would like to backup my retail dvd's to dvd5, is this possible under ubuntu ?
[07:04] <zax> gotcha ;)
[07:04] <tritium> ethan-allison, and apt-get -f install?
[07:04] <cjhcjhcjh> can anyone help me get the desktop going?
[07:05] <ethan-allison> no
[07:05] <gigaclon> my user name is gigaclon so for me it is /home/gigaclon/Desktop
[07:05] <LaserLine> Hello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...
[07:05] <cevizoglu> can someone point me to a url or doc on configuring a higher screen resolution for grub?
[07:05] <ethan-allison> LaserLine: try getting it from java.com or turning on the multiverse
[07:05] <zax> yup that was it
[07:05] <tritium> LaserLine, or use java-package to build your own .deb from Sun's installer
[07:06] <zax> i just didn't learn the syntax right yet untill gigaclon made it clear
[07:06] <twoknee> i believe the sun java is the best java candidate
[07:06] <LaserLine> I did turn on multiverse........it's wierd, I can't find it on "packages.ubuntu.com" either.
[07:06] <zax> :bows:
[07:06] <twoknee> just do a tiny bit more work not a big deal
[07:06] <cjhcjhcjh> hello?
[07:06] <tritium> LaserLine, you won't due to licensing issues
[07:06] <tritium> just build your own with java-package
[07:06] <ethan-allison> cjhcjhcjh: describe your problem in detail.
[07:06] <LaserLine> tritium so there are off backports too ?
[07:06] <ethan-allison> cjh: in one message
[07:07] <elPepo> hi friends
[07:07] <deFrysk> !tell laserline about sunjava
[07:07] <tritium> LaserLine, no backports yet
[07:07] <twoknee> cjhcjhcjh, you realize people who dont know or have autocomplete would be less likely to help you ?
[07:07] <twoknee> just a thought -- sorry, off topic
[07:07] <anthony> LaserLine: Check here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[07:07] <tritium> hi elPepo
[07:07] <cevizoglu> nevermind, I found it
[07:07] <ethan-allison> but cjhcjhcjh is so fun to type! :-D
[07:07] <JoshMartens> How can I turn spatial browsing on?
[07:08] <cjhcjhcjh> old laptop, no cd no floppy no other pc. managed to install using loadlin. after reboot left it downloading apps for 10 hours, after 850 packages got an error. I have command prompt, would like help getting the ubuntu desktop going. I think the apps are downloaded, maybe not installed.
[07:08] <Lordphyn> anybody know how to set up a home https proxy?
[07:08] <cafuego_> !info libc/query ubotu
[07:08] <cafuego_> d'oh ;-)
[07:08] <elPepo> is there some URL where I can download all the images of the all packages for Ubuntu, just like Debian ?
[07:08] <erirlar> i have a P4 should i then install the 686 kernel?
[07:08] <cafuego_> erirlar: yes
[07:08] <erirlar> ok
[07:09] <chapeaurouge> why does it take so long to rip a CD to mp3 with Sound Juicer?
[07:09] <twoknee> elPepo, thats silly.  packages are a work in progress which is why you update and upgrade through apt-get
[07:09] <LaserLine> How do I use JavaDeb?
[07:09] <chapeaurouge> 0.4x speed, etc..
[07:09] <niggpie> anthony got the error "Gedit:7775 GTK Warning cannot open display"
[07:09] <nalioth> LaserLine: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:09] <deFrysk> JoshMartens, edit > prefs > behaviour unchek always open in browserwindows
[07:09] <niggpie> i tried pico but it came up blank
[07:09] <twoknee> well i shouldn't say silly.  but thats kinda how these packages evolve
[07:09] <JoshMartens> deFrysk, thank you.
[07:10] <anthony> niggpie: So you can't open the xorg.conf is that what you are saying?
[07:10] <twoknee> niggpie, use nano, same thing, gpl
[07:10] <niggpie> yeah, i get an error msg
[07:10] <elPepo> ok but you need Internet to use apt-get, I wanna download all to CDs because later I wont have Internet
[07:11] <twoknee> i bet you could download the .deb's from a mirror
[07:11] <fangorious> does amarok only play aac using the xine backend?
[07:11] <cjhcjhcjh> ...even "man" doesnt work...I think it downloaded but didnt install. How do I get the basics and X installed?
[07:11] <anthony> niggpie: Ugh... I have NO idea then, maybe try tritium's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[07:11] <jrattner1> Hendric, X has now started but in the incorrect resolution, VESA is working I guess all I had to do was reboot it
[07:11] <kevogod> LaserLine, I will host my Java deb if you'd like.
[07:11] <twoknee> or have apt-get leave source on hd ?  i'm new to this too so i'm throwing out ideas
[07:11] <tritium> anthony, good advice ;)
[07:12] <glick> excuse me since ubuntu has no root user by default how can i make a cron entry that runs with superuser privelges?
[07:12] <twoknee> glick sudo su
[07:12] <cafuego_> glick: 'sudo crontab -e'
[07:12] <LaserLine> kevogod - it's ok, I understand the wiki here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[07:12] <glick> cafuego, gracias
[07:12] <jgrieves_> hola
[07:12] <niggpie> thx for the help anthony, i'm going to go consult a friend down the block =)
[07:12] <cafuego_> glick: Or just dump a file in /etc/cron.*
[07:12] <jgrieves_> ok i'm not giving up on this GDM issue :)
[07:12] <satafterh> http://counter.li.org/
[07:12] <johnny> hmm..
[07:13] <johnny> http://pastebin.com/393134
[07:13] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ I think you were helping me a couple of days ago
[07:13] <glick> i have to reinstall my system from scatch :(
[07:13] <Hendric> jrattner1, told yah.. :) on the monitor auto detction it allows you to select resolutions.. try it.
[07:13] <glick> this blows
[07:13] <cjhcjhcjh> please help me get started...the base is installed but nothing else *I think*
[07:13] <tritium> Why, glick ?
[07:13] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: Indeed
[07:13] <jrattner1> Hendric, i did that I wonder why it picked this instead of 1440x900 like i told it
[07:13] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ I still can't figure it out :)
[07:13] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ for the life of me, i can't make gdm load X on a user basis
[07:13] <cajcarter> can someone help me with ubuntu v 5.04 plz?
[07:13] <glick> tritium, i think the upgrade messed up my system some how firstly, upgrading it was a nightmare of broken dependancies and now its slow as hell for some reason
[07:14] <twoknee> Hendric under my non prerelease installation of breezy there were no questions asked regarding resolution however i was able to flip through a few using the standard toggles.
[07:14] <meepus> Hello, can you guys send me the name of the package for ATI support again please?
[07:14] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: Hold on. "gdm load X" does not compute.
[07:14] <tritium> !tell meepus about ati
[07:14] <LaserLine> But howcome on my hoary, I had the Java1.5 package and now it's not even on the backports etc... why does Sun care? I can install it on windows for free, so why not linux ?
[07:14] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ ok let me start
[07:14] <meepus> thanks tritium
[07:14] <tristanmike> cajcarter, just ask your question and if someone can, they will
[07:14] <tritium> glick, that's not normal...
[07:15] <twoknee> Sun did not charge me to download their java.  i'm a home user though.
[07:15] <deFrysk> LaserLine, you can install it , using the instructions
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[07:26] (cjhcjhcjh/#ubuntu) wickedpuppy I have given 2gb to ubuntu...should be ok for a basic X system, no?
[07:26] (LaserLine/#ubuntu) anthony I'll try to continue ?
[07:26] (LaserLine/#ubuntu) I can always remove the package :-)
[07:26] (wickedpuppy/#ubuntu) ah hmms ... space is fine but it will be very slow
[07:26] (deFrysk/#ubuntu) LaserLine, fakeroot make blah
[07:27] (cjhcjhcjh/#ubuntu) wickedpuppy shame, I was hoping it would be better than the existing win98
[07:27] (jrattner1/#ubuntu) Hendric, could you look at http://pastebin.com/393142 and tell me if you can see any reason why its kicking into 1024 mode if your not busy
[07:27] <shuveb> is there a git package available for ubuntu?
[07:27] (wickedpuppy/#ubuntu) cjhcjhcjh, lol win98 ? second edition ?? i like that one..
[07:27] (keffynd/#ubuntu) how can I remove hardware (ie: sondcard) and reinstall it cleanly?
[07:27] (tritium/#ubuntu) yes, shuveb
[07:27] <shuveb> there is a git package but, it seeme to be some file manager
[07:28] <anthony> LaserLine: You sure you have a 64-bit AMD processor?
[07:28] <shuveb> tritium, i mean the SCM software
[07:28] <cjhcjhcjh> wickedpuppy does everything I need. just internet. would be nice to use linux on it.
[07:28] <tritium> shuveb, I'm not familiar with it
[07:28] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: If a user needs a custom X configuration, make their .xsession file spawn that X via the startx command (to display :1) . *that* will start a new, custom X on tty8 (it will switch) and then that will process the user's .xsession *again*. This time, $DISPLAY is set to something containing :1, Make sure that if this is the case, gnome (or some other wm) is started. Do *not* make it start yet another X instance, becuas it w
[07:28] <calc> cjhcjhcjh: 2gb not counting swap should be plenty
[07:28] <shuveb> tritium, ok, thanks
[07:28] <cajcarter> anyone?
[07:28] <deFrysk> keffynd, is does not need to be (re)installed it needs to be detected
[07:28] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: how does the boot disk ask for medium?
[07:28] <disasm> any reason these two packages are held back? should I not try to force them? libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-v4l2
[07:28] <cjhcjhcjh> Can anyone tell me how to manually tell ubuntu to install all the basic apps, as it seems to have failed to do that on install
[07:28] <cjhcjhcjh> razor-x no floppy either
[07:28] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ ok, then in .xsessions specify gnome-session --display :1 ?
[07:28] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[07:29] <cafuego_> cjhcjhcjh: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <cjhcjhcjh> razor-x i spoke to you yesterday about this one. I got as far as the base system
[07:29] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: SOmehting like that, yes.
[07:29] <SPCcrow> is there anyway to enable root in ubuntu
[07:29] <tritium> !tell SPCcrow about rootsudo
[07:29] <disasm> SPCcrow: yeah, its recommended against
[07:29] <fangorious> here's something interesting. I can go to Actions->Play Media, select a .m4a file, and it plays. it seems to be unable to parse the metadata though. I wonder if that's why scanning my configured folders doesn't add them to the collection
[07:30] <cafuego_> SPCcrow: There is, but you don't need it. Even if you think you do.
[07:30] <tritium> agreed
[07:30] <calc> at worst you can do sudo su -
[07:30] <calc> which gives you root with no ability to login directly as root :)
[07:30] <kaschei> So anyway, I have an incorrect version of libc6, giving me lots of "held back" packages; almost everything (including apt itself) depends on this.  How do I upgrade to the right version? this is the current error: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[07:30] <jrattner1> fangorious, I had this same problem,  I was forced to convert my collection to mp3
[07:30] <cafuego_> calc: 'sudo -s' will do just fine.
[07:30] <tritium> glick, did you see the ubuntu ports project?
[07:30] <jrattner1> Hendric, any clue
[07:30] <LaserLine> deFrysk What ?
[07:30] <vbgun1> how do you identify yourself to IRC? I am trying /nick vbgunz identify password
[07:30] <SPCcrow> cafuego_: just used to using Slackware where some tasks require root priv.
[07:31] <glick> tritium, ubuntu has a sparc port now?
[07:31] <ui> do i have to use hoary repositories in breezy or what do i use?
[07:31] <calc> cafuego_: ah
[07:31] <vbgun1> is that how you do it? how to identify myself?
[07:31] <cafuego_> SPCcrow: Just run 'sudo -s' for a root shell.
[07:31] <tritium> glick, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ <-- look here
[07:31] <nalioth> ui: see /topic
[07:31] <disasm> just out of curiosity, with the root account disabled, how do you get into the recovery mode when something is broken?
[07:31] <tritium> glick, scroll down and you'll see some info
[07:31] <cjhcjhcjh> the sudo command is working...guess it will take a few hours, eh?
[07:31] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ does GDM load gnome up in some other script
[07:31] <jgrieves_> i dont even have a .xsessionf ile righ tnow
[07:31] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ for some of my users
[07:31] <glick> thanks
[07:31] <ui> nalioth: what do you mean?
[07:31] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: It probably uses the default Xsession from from /etc/somewhere
[07:31] <fangorious> jrattner1, fortunately only about 50 files out of my nearly 3000 are currently .m4a, the rest are mp3
[07:31] <calc> cafuego_: seems not to completely reset the root environment, but probably does good enough
[07:31] <ui> nalioth : what do you mean?
[07:31] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ ok
[07:31] <tritium> glick, :)
[07:31] <zax> can some one help me install real player 10
[07:32] <cafuego_> calc: 'sudo -i' would.
[07:32] <jrattner1> fangorious, theres a tool called Jhymm that will convert them
[07:32] <zax> Run the .bin file by typing "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin". Follow the prompts provided to finish installing the player.
[07:32] <nalioth> ui: the /topic is at the top of your irc window in whatever channel you are int
[07:32] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ great, this sounds feasible
[07:32] <nalioth> ui: type /topic
[07:32] <cjhcjhcjh> Is the package "ubuntu-desktop" the entire base system?
[07:32] <calc> cafuego_: also -s gives the benefit of allowing x apps to run directly :)
[07:32] <cafuego_> calc: yep
[07:32] <zax> i try but it said error while loading the shared librarys
[07:32] <scott> Im trying to install a codec for xmms so I can play wma files but dont know what im doing can anybody help
[07:32] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ will gnome close the X session aftewards?  It seems like it does this automatically
[07:32] <tritium> cjhcjhcjh, no, in fact, it's just a meta-package
[07:32] <fangorious> I'm getting a GPG error when running 'apt-get update' is there just a new key I need to install?
[07:32] <cjhcjhcjh> Is there a way to mount an iso image?
[07:32] <jrattner1> Why is my Xserver unable to start in 1440x900 although it is properly configured
[07:32] <fangorious> (breezy)
[07:32] <scott> Im in a terminal and in the folder its extracted folder...
[07:32] <cafuego_> cjhcjhcjh: Yep.
[07:32] <LaserLine> it's a P4-3.0GHz EMT64
[07:32] <deFrysk> LaserLine, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-blah.bin
[07:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell scott about w32codecs
[07:33] <kaschei> How do I resolve the following error? Upgrading from hoary to breezy I get "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13" whenever I try to install packages (as well as other broken dependencies)
[07:33] <kaschei> and apt-get install libc6 shows I have the most recent version
[07:33] <nalioth> kaschei: i smell unofficial repos used
[07:33] <cafuego_> cjhcjhcjh: sudo mount -t iso966- -o loop,ro ./isofile /mnt/dir
[07:33] <LaserLine> anothony It's a P4-3.0Ghz EMT64
[07:33] <jrattner1> How Can it not find the mode ? (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name)
[07:33] <cjhcjhcjh> cafuego_ can I mount the iso (on my fat32) and then tell the install to get from there? (and HOW do I do that...learning ;-) )
[07:33] <scott> w32 codecs?   Thats not the one Im using will that let me play wma in xmms?
[07:33] <cjhcjhcjh> caf ok doing that.
[07:33] <weiers> ubotu: tell weiers about w32codecs
[07:33] <nalioth> scott: w32codecs are for microcrap media
[07:34] <scott> =)
[07:34] <Hendric> jrattner1, add it manually on your xorg.conf ... if you get an error.. that means driver can't handle it.
[07:34] <calc> LaserLine: are you running the amd64 ubuntu dist?
[07:34] <jrattner1> Hendric, but it previouslly ran in 1440x900 in hoary
[07:34] <hellion> anyone know how to configure kaffeine for  ess.tv?
[07:34] <LaserLine> Calc yes.
[07:34] <hellion> NSV streams?
[07:35] <Hendric> jrattner1, then just add it manually...
[07:35] <scott> nalioth:  Where can I get it?
[07:35] <calc> LaserLine: hmm that is strange then, i don't use java so haven't tried setting it up myself
[07:35] <nalioth> kaschei: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin, please
[07:35] <nalioth> scott: i thougt ubotu just msg'd you
[07:35] <LaserLine> anthony If I install the Java on an Athlon using the K7 kernel, what Java bin should I d/l ?
[07:35] <glick> europe is bitchin because they want to control part of the internet too
[07:35] <LaserLine> calc
[07:35] <jrattner1> Hendric, its in there already, what do you mean by add it manually, under display default depth is 1440x900
[07:35] <anthony> LaserLine: If you are running a P4 then you should get the i586 package, I think that's the problem.
[07:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell LaserLine about java
[07:35] <glick> bitchin cause the US controls the entire internet
[07:35] <anthony> LaserLine: That I have no idea.
[07:35] <LaserLine> calc I finished making, and installing
[07:35] <SPCcrow> QOTD: What gui do you use?
[07:35] <joelito> Got the news of the new ports?
[07:36] <LaserLine> anthony What command should I type to see if I suceeded with the installation ?
[07:36] <anthony> LaserLine java -version
[07:36] <calc> anthony: apparently he has one of the new p4's which is amd64 arch (eg 5x1 6xx 8xx)
[07:36] <joelito> Can't wait to try the sparc one
[07:36] <glick> here is my answer to Europe: when you create some revolutionary  new technology that changes the world and humanity forever, you can control it
[07:36] <anthony> calc: Oh ok I see.
[07:36] <LaserLine> anthony I still see 1.4.2. GIJ
[07:36] <adiabatic> glick: With apologies to Stroustrup, there are two types of countries: Countries that people bitch about, and countries that nobody ever goes to or thinks about
[07:36] <ui> how do change my screen resolution in breezy?
[07:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ui about fixres
[07:36] <Hendric> jrattner1, try changing resolutions.. can select 1440???
[07:37] <Hendric> jrattner1, try changing resolutions.. can u select 1440???
[07:37] <anthony> LaserLine: Try "sudo update-alternatives --config java", then choose the number 3, that should be the one say j2re1.5 blah blah.
[07:37] <topyli> glick: please keep it a bit more on topic. this is not #international-politics
[07:37] <jrattner1> Hendric, no it doesnt allow me too, would you mind taking a look at my xorg.conf I know its hassle...
[07:37] <scott> nalioth:  He did... thanks
[07:37] <johnny> thanks peeps
[07:37] <johnny> i'm outtie
[07:37] <cjhcjhcjh> How do I mount the 1st partition (fat32)?
[07:37] <Hendric> jrattner1, use the paste bin
[07:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cjhcjhcjh about mountwindows
[07:37] <jrattner1> Hendric, http://pastebin.com/393154
[07:37] <Hendric> jrattner1, opening..
[07:38] <LaserLine> anthony - you the man !
[07:38] <glick> tritium, the ubuntu sparc port looks promissing but its too new, i need something true tested and constantly updated fixes and stuff, either debian or freebsd
[07:38] <tritium> glick, okay, it was just an idea
[07:38] <anthony> LaserLine: Glad it worked.
[07:38] <vbgun1> ***trying to login...
[07:38] <LaserLine> anothony how can I get the firefox extension?
[07:38] <cjhcjhcjh> man is not working here...I am in the dark...just need to get started. I have the iso on fat32, want to mount the fat32 so I can then mount the iso to install the rest from there...please help with commands to do that
[07:38] <traveller> hm...how smooth is it to upgrade from hoary to breezy?? are there any "gotchas" that one should be aware of?
[07:39] <Master-Chief> i dragged my gnome top panel to the side
[07:39] <Master-Chief> and now it has huge icons
[07:39] <Master-Chief> and i cant CLICK the panel to drag it back
[07:39] <Master-Chief> help :)
[07:39] <nalioth> traveller: should be smooth as butter
[07:39] <traveller> nalioth: that's good to hear
[07:39] <Hendric> jrattner1, i think the driver can't handle 24bits with 1440... try using 16bits
[07:39] <traveller> thanks
[07:39] <anthony> LaserLine: I think that works for Firefox too, have you tried it?
[07:39] <cjhcjhcjh> How do I mount the 1st partition (fat32)?
[07:39] <deFrysk> Master-Chief, rightclick the panet >properties > top or bottom
[07:39] <deFrysk> panel*
[07:39] <jrattner1> Hendric, so you mean set the default depth to 16 bits?
[07:39] <nalioth> Master-Chief: no context clicking at all?
[07:40] <Master-Chief> deFrysk, i cant rick click the panel
[07:40] <Master-Chief> nalioth, no
[07:40] <jrattner1> Hendric, ideally i want to install the ATI drivers if they will work
[07:40] <deFrysk> Master-Chief, on an empty spot on the panel
[07:40] <Hendric> jrattner1, yes.. since you are not using an ATI driver..
[07:40] <Master-Chief> deFrysk, no empty spot
[07:40] <Master-Chief> icons are huge
[07:40] <Master-Chief> and extend off screen
[07:40] <Hendric> jrattner1, if you can get it working with ATI drivers... then you will not be having problems
[07:40] <cjhcjhcjh> can someone please give me the command to mount the first fat32 partition so I can access it
[07:40] <Hendric> BBL
[07:40] <nalioth> Master-Chief: close some programs
[07:41] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: ubotu didnt msg you?
[07:41] <meepus> hey, I managed to install the fglrx package, but when i run fglrxinfo, it doesn't display my vendor string or renderer string correctly
[07:41] <Master-Chief> nalioth, they are shortcuts
[07:41] <Master-Chief> this is the TOP panel
[07:41] <mshade> anyone know if gam_server is fixed in the new release?
[07:41] <meepus> it says mesa project under vendor, and mesa glx indirect under renderer
[07:41] <cjhcjhcjh> naolith not AFAIK but then I dont know how to access messages or anything
[07:41] <fangorious> I'm seeing a GPG error for us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates when I apt-get update
[07:41] <deFrysk> would someone get rid of Nali0ths_dog ? ist a pain for autocompletin of nicks
[07:41] <meepus> as opposed to ATI Technologies and my Radeon
[07:41] <jrattner1> Hendric, when I say ATI drivers I mean the binary ATI drivers.. using flgx or something like that... in the mean time i want a VESA display incase I mess it up
[07:41] <nalioth> Master-Chief: so jettison one so you can click
[07:42] <meepus> how can I get my ATI drivers installed
[07:42] <anthony> LaserLine: If you go to "http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=97", and the applet loads then that means it has worked.
[07:42] <meepus> since it obviously just didn't work installing that package
[07:42] <tritium> deFrysk, but nalioth's dog is soo cute...
[07:42] <bimberi> Master-Chief: run gconf-editor in a terminal, apps -> panel -> toplevels -> top_panel, change orientation to "top"
[07:42] <zax> has anyone installed real player 10
[07:42] <deFrysk> tritium, cute but a pain ;p
[07:42] <Aravi> I've got both the Universe and Multiverse repositories added, yet can't resolve dependencies for some packages.
[07:42] <Aravi> Any idea why?
[07:42] <cjhcjhcjh> naolith also "mountwindows" command not recognised! can&t I just use mount with the right syntax? ...and what is the syntax to mount a fat32 vol?
[07:43] <Xenthro> Hi I was wondering how i can I maximize my repositories in synaptic to include just about every package ever released?
[07:43] <tritium> deFrysk, please don't shoot him, daddy...I know he has rabies, but he's never bitten me
[07:43] <deFrysk> :D
[07:43] <Xenthro> when i search
[07:43] <satafterh> i just read about about the ubuntu fund for 10million$, hope thats enough to keep it around for along time
[07:43] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: watch the channel quickly (the data will fly by)
[07:43] <nalioth> !mountwindows
[07:43] <ubotu> it has been said that mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[07:43] <seethru> meepus: you have to edit xorg.conf
[07:43] <tritium> nalioth, deFrysk wants to off your dog
[07:43] <kaschei> Here is my problem: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3059
[07:43] <ui> how do i listen to mp3 in  breezy?
[07:43] <jgrieves_> what group does a user have to be to run xinit
[07:44] <cjhcjhcjh> naolith great but how do I get this mountwindows?
[07:44] <Master-Chief> bimberi, it says top
[07:44] <meepus> seethru, where is that file located, and what do I need to edit?
[07:44] <deFrysk> !tell ui about restricted formats
[07:44] <nalioth> y'all happy? dog-haters
[07:44] <Xenthro> ui: download xmms
[07:44] <kaschei> !tell me about restricted formats
[07:44] <tritium> jgrieves_, I'll bet the gdm group can
[07:45] <jgrieves_> tritium, good idea
[07:45] <anthony> meepus: The way it worked for me is... "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", then look for line 74 where it says "Driver: "ati"", change that to "fglrx", save, and restart X.
[07:45] <Master-Chief> shit
[07:45] <Master-Chief> had to delete my whole panel
[07:45] <jgrieves_> though gdm runs some crud as root...
[07:45] <bimberi> Master-Chief: hm, that has worked for me, oh well
[07:45] <seethru> meepus: anthony's got it
[07:45] <kaschei> Please help me with dist-upgrade and dependencies, details here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3059
[07:45] <seethru> meepus: he beat me to it
[07:46] <meepus> anthony: I opened that file, and it contains nothing
[07:46] <seethru> meepus: uh....there is no way it contains nothing if you're in gnome...
[07:46] <tritium> kaschei, you don't have the main repo listed
[07:46] <seethru> meepus: case-sensitive
[07:46] <meepus> ...should I just -rm the package and reinstall it and try again?
[07:46] <SPCcrow> is there a Ubuntu package that install wlanctl-ng?
[07:46] <kaschei> tritium: duhhhhhh my brain
[07:47] <seethru> meepus: no, it won't do this part for you
[07:47] <anthony> meepus: You sure it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf? It worked for me.
[07:47] <seethru> meepus: make sure to type what anthony said to type EXACTLY
[07:47] <tritium> kaschei, :)
[07:47] <Master-Chief> bimberi, np
[07:47] <meepus> I copied it exactly
[07:47] <meepus> the X was capitalized and all.
[07:47] <cjhcjhcjh> I now have the iso mounted. How do I tell apt-get to get the stuff from that folder?
[07:47] <anthony> Brb dinner!
[07:47] <kaschei> seriously I have stared at that for about fifteen minutes without noticing
[07:48] <pgw> how can I change Gnome's primary screen (i.e. the one where the panels are displayed in ubuntu) when using nvidia twinview?
[07:48] <kaschei> the "main restricted" threw me I guess
[07:48] <seethru> meepus: try again, cause if that file is empty you've got larger problems than the driver not loading
[07:48] <erirlar> is universe and multiuniverse unstable to use?
[07:48] <cjhcjhcjh> How to make this machine to apt-get from /mnt/isocd ? How to configure the apt-get to use that source?
[07:48] <tritium> no, erirlar
[07:49] <budluva_> anyone here an admin for ubuntu forums? it seems i've forgotten my password, and the email i enter to reset my password is wrong
[07:49] <nalioth> erirlar: universe and multiverse are perfectly fine
[07:49] <meepus> seethru: -_- I used Ls instead of 1s
[07:49] <meepus> Xll
[07:49] <meepus> instead of X11
[07:49] <erirlar> ok, thanks guys
[07:49] <SPCcrow> night
[07:49] <seethru> meepus: ok, now change ati to fglrx and restart x (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[07:49] <cjhcjhcjh> apt-get is currently getting files from the net...how do I tell it to get the source from /mnt/isocd (which is the ubuntu cd)?
[07:50] <meepus> seethru: what line was that again?
[07:50] <seethru> meepus: around 71
[07:50] <twoknee> seethru if a new kernel is released or an updated gnome will ubuntu revert to console on boot ?
[07:50] <twoknee> relating to fglrx
[07:50] <meepus> seethru on line 66 I see Driver "ati"
[07:50] <seethru> twoknee: if you install a new kernel you've got to reinstall the driver
[07:50] <seethru> meepus: ok, change that
[07:51] <cjhcjhcjh> Help please; how to set the source of applicatins to /mnt/isocd (which is the ubuntu CD)?
[07:51] <meepus> alright, done, wish me luck!
[07:51] <seethru> cjhcjhcjh: if you installed from cd it should already be in your sources
[07:52] <tritium> cjhcjhcjh, if it's an official CD, a dialog box should pop up when you insert it, and it should ask you if you want to use it to install packages?
[07:52] <cjhcjhcjh> seethru I didnt - I have no cd rom; I have installed the base system over the net
[07:52] <cjhcjhcjh> tritium see above
[07:52] <tritium> yeah, just noticed, sorry
[07:52] <cjhcjhcjh> np
[07:52] <QMario> What does this error mean?
[07:52] <QMario> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[07:52] <QMario>         LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en_US:en",
[07:52] <QMario> 
[07:52] <tritium> QMario, no pasting please
[07:52] <QMario> LC_ALL = (unset),
[07:52] <QMario>         LANG = "en_US"
[07:53] <cafuego_> woohoo!
[07:53] <cjhcjhcjh> I have the core installed but no apps; I have now managed to mount the iso image; I want to apt-get the X system from that iso image. If I do apt-get now, it starts to download via the net. I want to reconfigure it to get the packages from /mnt/isocd
[07:53] <meepus> seethru: fglrxinfo now reports the correct videocard, but I have less screen resolution options now than I did with the default driver
[07:53] <bimberi> cjhcjhcjh: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out all lines except the "deb cdrom" line, then apt-get update and retry
[07:53] <felon> hi
[07:53] <tritium> heh, cafuego_
[07:53] <cjhcjhcjh> bimberi its not a cdrom, its an iso on fat32 which I have mounted
[07:54] <twoknee> so lets say i'm using fglrx and it autoinstalls the kernel.  i reboot and will i have a radeon driver since fglrx is not the default ?
[07:54] <seethru> meepus: you'll have to play with the monitor settings in xorg.conf then
[07:54] <scott> Now that I downloaded the w3codec, what do I do with it?
[07:54] <^john^> hi all
[07:55] <bimberi> cjhcjhcjh: sorry, that's new territory for me
[07:55] <scott> I mean w32codec
[07:55] <felon> is there a list of good linux programs?
[07:55] <QMario> Hello ^john^!!! :)
[07:55] <nalioth> scott: open a terminal where that file is, and "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[07:55] <tritium> no, twoknee.  Kernel updates should also come with updates to linux-restricted-modules, which include the fglrx modules
[07:55] <QMario> Sorry #UBUNTU. :'(
[07:55] <felon> I always see websites for the best windows prgorams
[07:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell felon about equivalents
[07:55] <twoknee> thank you
[07:55] <scott> nalioth: thanks
[07:55] <cjhcjhcjh> bimberi np thanks anyway - at least you pointed me to the right file; I will have a look at it
[07:55] <^john^> linux is not cool!!!!!!
[07:55] <pioneer> how do i get totem to save preferances i change? i change audio from ac3 passthrough to stereo but it wont stay
[07:55] <^john^> red:lolllllz
[07:55] <QMario> John, what?!
[07:55] <felon> what are quivalents
[07:55] <seethru> ^john^: durr gtfo
[07:55] <tritium> what's the problem, ^john^ ?
[07:55] <felon> equivalents
[07:56] <nalioth> felon: go visit the URL in the msg
[07:56] <^john^> any1 ctc?
[07:56] <felon> thanks
[07:56] <meepus> seethru: I see many different modes for may different 'depth' settings.  Do you know what 'depth' stands for?  I've never seen that before.
[07:56] <QMario> What is ctc?
[07:56] <disasm> whats the easiest way to get rid of all the gnome stuff after adding xubuntu-desktop?
[07:56] <^john^> how can i pm??
[07:56] <scott> nalioth: and thats it?  Now xmms will play wma files?
[07:56] <^john^> how can i pm a another people?
[07:56] <^john^> fuck
[07:56] <QMario> Wrong person nalioth.
[07:56] <QMario> At least "he" went away.
[07:56] <nalioth> sorry folks
[07:56] <zax> creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5' to `/usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.5': Permission denied
[07:57] <seethru> meepus: depth = colors
[07:57] <QMario> It's okay.
[07:57] <linuxgeek2> "/msg <nickname> message"
[07:57] <zax> why did it deny i thought i am admin
[07:57] <QMario> I bet he's the same person.
[07:57] <felon> What is ubotu?
[07:57] <meepus> seethru: total colors?  Cause the highest number I see is 24 ^^;
[07:57] <QMario> !Ubotu
[07:57] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:57] <seethru> zax: sudo that command
[07:57] <seethru> meepus: 24bit color for example
[07:57] <TobyK> aahh so this is where it's at! I've been on the wrong server :-)
[07:57] <twoknee> does anyone know of a good newsreader that is gui based and has good support for unencoding yenc multipart binaries ?
[07:57] <jrattner> If using an ATI card, is it recomended to use the ATI driver, or use the binary one that flgx or something like that?
[07:57] <nalioth> twoknee: pan
[07:57] <QMario> Tritium, is that a spambot you banned?
[07:58] <twoknee> is that the best ?
[07:58] <tritium> QMario, don't think so.
[07:58] <QMario> Who was that then?
[07:58] <meepus> seethru: ah, so if I just add a resolution in quotes, save the conf, and go to screen resolutions in gnome, I will be able to select it?
[07:58] <seethru> jrattner: if you want acceleration, use the binary
[07:58] <tritium> Just a naughty little boy
[07:58] <jrattner> Hendric: Damn card wont work if I use ATI so i'm forced to use VESA
[07:58] <nalioth> QMario: an offtopic poster
[07:58] <seethru> meepus: you'll have to restart x again
[07:58] <jrattner> seethru: is the process the same as it was in hoary
[07:58] <scott> Nalioth: XMMS still wont play WMA files... is there anything else I need to do?
[07:58] <meepus> seethru: but otherwise, yes?
[07:58] <QMario> Hello fellow Q!!! :)
[07:58] <seethru> jrattner: yes
[07:58] <nalioth> scott: dont play wma files
[07:58] <seethru> meepus: it should, yes
[07:59] <Q_Continuum> Any ideas how long until the Breezy DVD installer is ready?
[07:59] <bimberi> QMario: I got a zillion locale messages like your (controversial) paste during upgrade, didn't seem to affect much though, once the locales package was configured they stopped
[07:59] <Q_Continuum> hello Q!
[07:59] <twoknee> scott look at restricted formats in the wiki
[07:59] <scott> whys that?
[08:00] <twoknee> because there is all the information you need to know
[08:00] <nalioth> scott: b/c microsoft media is very closed source
[08:00] <Q_Continuum> ooooo local mirror :D
[08:00] <cjhcjhcjh> How do I make the apt sources.list point to a file folder instead of the ftp address?
[08:00] <QMario> Okay bimberi. I just wanted to see if something was wrong with my upgrade. :)
[08:00] <C-Keen> moin
[08:00] <nalioth> scott: and some of it won't play no matter what you do
[08:00] <scott> Then what can I use to convert it to mp3?
[08:00] <scott> I was retarded and ripped most of  my cds to WMA when I was using windows
[08:01] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: something like: "deb file:/media/iso/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted" will do it
[08:01] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus thanks trying
[08:01] <nalioth> scott: something nasty in windows, i presume
[08:01] <nalioth> scott: try www.freewarehome.com
[08:01] <cafuego_> scott: Are the WMA's compressed?
[08:01] <tritium> scott, converting from one lossy format to another is a bad idea
[08:01] <Q_Continuum> automagically
[08:01] <cafuego_> scott: (iTunes in windows will autoconvert 'em, btw)
[08:01] <tritium> scott, unless you don't care about the quality degradation
[08:02] <scott> hmm, guess ill move them all to spare laptop and convert em in windows =(
[08:02] <timmiz> I want to disable my mouseTouchpad, how do i check if i have a synaptics touchpad?
[08:02] <scott> tritium: quality on them is very good, doubt it would be problem
[08:03] <miksu> i have heard of some 'encrypted port'  for tcp/udp connections. does such exist and what port is it , if so?
[08:03] <cafuego_> Yee, that's not at all a spambot hostmask <heh>
[08:03] <scott> cafuego_: I dont know...  I just ripped them with windows media player from CD
[08:03] <tritium> scott, quality degrades each time you perform lossy compression
[08:03] <d3vice> hi
[08:03] <cafuego_> miksu: Um, no.
[08:03] <scott> tritium:  lossy?
[08:03] <tritium> scott, yes.  Information is thrown away in the compression process.
[08:03] <d3vice> is there a win32 package on synaptic for 5.10 ?
[08:03] <nalioth> scott: join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion on lossy and nonlossy formats
[08:04] <d3vice> i mean... win32 codecs
[08:04] <cafuego_> miksu: there is ssl/tls, but that is implemented on a per-application basis.
[08:04] <nalioth> d3vice: yes. /msg ubotu w32codecs
[08:04] <scott> tritium:  ahh ok... thanks for all of your help everybody
[08:04] <kaschei> I'd like to warn everyone that the utah.edu mirror is old, use a different mirror
[08:04] <timmiz> anyone know how to check what kinda mousepad is on ubunut, i need to know if its synaptics or note, I looked in xorg.conf and doesnt show anything regarding mousepad
[08:05] <rathma> hy all!!!
[08:05] <bimberi> Q_Continuum: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/
[08:05] <cafuego_> tritium: *!oieiiekw@193.226.47.204
[08:05] <felon> whats the best firewall for ubuntu?
[08:05] <glick> hey what can i do i have a 40 gigs of unorganized mp3 files
[08:05] <glick> is there any hope of getting it into some order?
[08:05] <cafuego_> felon: if you're not running any services, you won't need a firewall :-)
[08:05] <nalioth> felon: a firewall is not necessary for ubuntu
[08:05] <glick> so i can find what songs i want?
[08:05] <felon> really?
[08:05] <nalioth> felon: this isnt windows
[08:06] <felon> im running GAIM, IRC, FIREFOX
[08:06] <felon> lol
[08:06] <felon> nice
[08:06] <d3vice> nalioth, thx
[08:06] <cafuego_> tritium: *whee!*
[08:06] <felon> so i dont need a spyware scaner or virus scanner?
[08:06] <felon> I <3 Ubuntu
[08:06] <tritium> cafuego_, you realize we're going to leave you here one night with ops, right?
[08:06] <cafuego_> felon: Only if you're handling mail for wondiws clients.
[08:06] <nalioth> felon: not unless you email your windows using grandmother and want to protect her
[08:06] <glick> how do you keep massive mp3 collections sorted?
[08:06] <felon> ROFL this is awesoem
[08:06] <dooglus> miksu: are you talking about ssh connections?
[08:06] <rathma> my sources list not work.... plt help me:) i dont install any programs
[08:06] <rathma> plz:)
[08:07] <tritium> felon, your enthusiasm rocks!
[08:07] <nalioth> rathma: it works. the servers are overloaded atm
[08:07] <felon> So no need for Bastile?
[08:07] <cafuego_> tritium: As long as you realise you'll be coming back to a ransacked channel with graffiti and vomit stains all over ;-)
[08:07] <tritium> hah!
[08:07] <cafuego_> felon: If you're just running a desktop box, nope.
[08:07] <nalioth> felon: no need for anything with a default install
[08:07] <synd> Let me takeover the channel ;)
[08:07] <cafuego_> felon: Just install &amp; enjoy.
[08:07] <flyfree> hello:0
[08:07] <felon> &ampl?
[08:07] <felon> &amp;
[08:07] <cafuego_> sorry, too much php :-)
[08:07] <felon> this is my first time running a linux machine
[08:07] <rathma> nalioth, where the download extra repos list?
[08:08] <nalioth> felon: there is a lot to unlearn
[08:08] <felon> lol
[08:08] <nalioth> rathma: /msg ubotu sources
[08:08] <pioneer> how can i get totem-xine to save preferances? they keep switching back after i set them
[08:08] <tritium> you must unlearn what you have learned...
[08:08] <cjhcjhcjh> Help I have changed sources to point to an iso image of the install cd but when I try to apt-get it cannot find the packages. maybe it needs to point to a subdir or something?
[08:08] <rathma>  /msg ubotu sources
[08:09] <rathma> nalioth, ?
[08:09] <zax> how do i install a rpm it keeps saying archilve not valid
[08:09] <tritium> rathma, remove the leading space there
[08:09] <nalioth> rathma: you left a space in between the / and the left side of your text entry box
[08:09] <tritium> zax, why are you installing an rpm?
[08:09] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: you need to mount the iso image first.  did you do that?
[08:10] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus yes, I can see the contents under /mnt/isocd
[08:10] <zax> it says u are supposed to to get real player to install
[08:10] <zax> compat-libstdc++
[08:10] <cafuego_> zax: Do not install an rpm!
[08:10] <cafuego_> !find helixplayer
[08:10] <tritium> what says that, zax?  What's the "it" you're referring to?
[08:10] <zax> when you try to extract it
[08:11] <felon> winamp works with linux?
[08:11] <zax> with archive manager
[08:11] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: then the path you need to put in your sources.list is just /mnt/isocd/ubuntu
[08:11] <tritium> felon, xmms or beep media player look just like it
[08:11] <cafuego_> felon: No, but beep-media-player is pretty much identical.
[08:11] <glick> with xmms why would u wanna run winamp
[08:11] <felon> cool
[08:11] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: or /mnt/isocd - that's the same place I think
[08:11] <icarus> !tell icarus about tvtime
[08:11] <felon> I love linux
[08:11] <felon> but i have much to learn
[08:11] <felon> haha this is so awesome
[08:11] <tritium> felon, :)
[08:11] <aftertaf> felon:  totally :)
[08:12] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: so it's "deb file:/mnt/isocd/ breezy main restricted" (without the double quotes)
[08:12] <cafuego_> !test
[08:12] <ubotu> Passed.
[08:12] <zax> so how do i get those libraries in the system
[08:12] <cafuego_> then answer my search!
[08:12] <icarus> hi all, is anyone here using tvtime with an ati card?
[08:12] <tritium> good to test your bot after you punch it
[08:12] <zax> so i can install realplayer10
[08:12] <felon> geeze
[08:12] <dooglus> zax: I wouldn't advise it
[08:12] <felon> i want to setup my desktop and make it nice
[08:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'helixplayer' returned no results.
[08:12] <cafuego_> tritium: If I punch it just right, the test stalls..
[08:12] <cafuego_> okay then
[08:12] <zax> what is it you dont advice
[08:12] <starscalling> /me sighs
[08:13] <dooglus> zax: I don't advise installing anything from real.com.  their apps are horrible.
[08:13] <starscalling> -/ + action darn it
[08:13] <dooglus> zax: and unneccesary
[08:13] <zax> i know they are crap , but i like to listen to straming audio
[08:13] <icarus> !tell icarus about skype
[08:13] <dooglus> zax: beep-media-player plays streaming audio, so does mplayer
[08:13] <cafuego_> zax: I recommend you find a .deb for helixplayer and use that instead.
[08:14] <zax> what is a .deb
[08:14] <tritium> !info helix-player
[08:14] <cafuego_> zax: And yes, mplayer supports realaudio with the right codecs.
[08:14] <ubotu> helix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10260 kB
[08:14] <tritium> zax, it's the debian package format, similar (but superior) to .rpm
[08:14] <cafuego_> duh, a hyphen :-)
[08:14] <zax> hmmm, so I should install mplayer and start from there
[08:14] <glick> during ubuntu installation can i specify the 686 kernel?
[08:14] <cafuego_> ... and not on amd64 :-(
[08:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zax about cli
[08:15] <cafuego_> glick: No. you add it afterwards (and reboot)
[08:15] <dooglus> "helix-player - The Helix Community's open source media player"
[08:15] <glick> cafuego, dont you think that needs to be fixed?
[08:15] <angryfix> what file(s) do I need to edit to keep X windows from starting during boot?
[08:15] <angryfix> is there a master list of boot programs?
[08:15] <cafuego_> glick: No, I don't have a problem with it.
[08:16] <tritium> angryfix, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[08:16] <cafuego_> glick: I wasn't silly enough to buy *intel* hardware
[08:16] <angryfix> tritium: thanks
[08:16] <dooglus> angryfix: angryfix do this: sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/{S13,K01}gdm
[08:16] <cjhcjhcjh> Thanks all - I needed the syntax in "deb" not  "deb src"...is now installing ubuntu-desktop, hurrah. Do I need to apt-get other stuff as well?
[08:16] <glick> cafuego, ?
[08:16] <tritium> I'd recommend the update-rc.d approach instead
[08:16] <glick> what does that mean?
[08:16] <cjhcjhcjh> ie to get the "normal" system set up
[08:16] <icarus> !tell icarus about mplayer
[08:16] <Hmmmm> guys, im on hoary, i want to upgrade to breezy. what's the smoothest way to go about it?
[08:16] <ktogias> Y
[08:16] <glick> Hmmmm, reinstall
[08:17] <tritium> !tell Hmmmm about breezy
[08:17] <eyequeue> Hmmmm:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:17] <topyli> Hmmmm: change your hoary sources.list to breezy, then do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:18] <angryfix> dooglus: will that command be permanent?
[08:18] <dooglus> angryfix: yes.
[08:18] <Hmmmm> topyli, anyone done it with success?
[08:18] <angryfix> ok, perfect
[08:18] <tritium> angryfix, dooglus use update-rc.d over mv
[08:18] <dooglus> angryfix: what it does it removes gdm from runlevel 2, but leaves it in runlevel 3.
[08:18] <topyli> Hmmmm: i've done it on a couple of machines
[08:18] <dooglus> tritium: why?
[08:19] <Ky0tIk> hmm
[08:19] <Ky0tIk> is something up with the repos?
[08:19] <tritium> dooglus, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start  (it's the "one true way")
[08:19] <Hmmmm> topyli, any idea what the size of the download is?
[08:19] <Ky0tIk> i got some weird errors
[08:19] <topyli> Hmmmm: it's huge, every package will be upgraded
[08:19] <dooglus> tritium: no really.  why?
[08:19] <tritium> dooglus, did you read the URL?
[08:19] <cafuego_> !dict drake
[08:19] <ubotu> Dictionary 'drake' (2 shown): English explorer and admiral who was the first Englishman to circumnavigate the globe and who helped to defeat the Spanish Armada (1540-1596) ;; adult male of a wild or domestic duck.
[08:19] <yapyccky> hello did anyone here never tryied MTRR control?
[08:19] <Hmmmm> ah ok. then maybe i should download the DVD itself
[08:19] <Ky0tIk> i know its no pasting i nhere
[08:19] <dooglus> tritium: yes.
[08:20] <Ky0tIk> in here*,  but check this out W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:20] <cafuego_> well, you learn something quack every day.
[08:20] <Ky0tIk> never have seen that til today
[08:20] <yapyccky> I'm trying to use it but i dunno why i cant write changes on /proc/mtrr
[08:20] <tritium> dooglus, then why are you asking me?
[08:20] <Hmmmm> is the breezy final dvd out yet?
[08:20] <eyequeue> Ky0tIk:  sudo apt-get update
[08:20] <cafuego_> Hmmmm: Why don't you check the downlaod site and see?
[08:20] <Ky0tIk> eyequeue thats what gave me the error
[08:20] <eyequeue> Ky0tIk:  yes, rerun the command
[08:21] <dooglus> tritium: all it says is it's the "one true way".  it doesn't explain why it's better to use a complex shell script than to use a simple 'mv' command.
[08:21] <eyequeue> Ky0tIk:  mirrors are quite bogged down today
[08:21] <dooglus> sorry, Perl script.
[08:21] <angryfix> tritium: so do 'update-rd.d /etc/rc2.d/{S13,K01}gdm' ?
[08:21] <tritium> dooglus, I'm just presenting the preferred method.  Do as you choose
[08:21] <Ky0tIk> eyequeue, now it seems to be working, i thought it meant my /var/lib  stuff was messed up
[08:22] <dooglus> angryfix: no, just what I typed.
[08:22] <bozzu> i upgraded from brezy preview to brezy and i lost serpentine. trying to reinstall it i receive a dependecy error related to python2-gnome-extra. what could be the problem?
[08:22] <dohtem`ubuntu> hey guys
[08:22] <cafuego_> Can I note that the first US download mirror on the breezy release page is broken?
[08:22] <dooglus> angryfix: if you want to use the update.rc-d thing instead, hang on and I'll look up the usage.
[08:22] <Ky0tIk> bozzu, i upgraded as well, and i didnt lose serpentine :S
[08:23] <tritium> angryfix, no, just like the URL suggests, but use gdm rather than ?dm
[08:23] <eyequeue> Ky0tIk:  *if* your /var partition ever fills up.you'll get similar errors too.  today it just means that repo timed out without an answer
[08:23] <dohtem`ubuntu> I have got the Microsoft Elite bluetooth mouse and keyboard, how I get both of them working in Ubuntu?
[08:23] <jgrieves_> xinit -display :1 -d 24
[08:23] <jgrieves_>  if this produces no errors what can i assume?
[08:23] <Ky0tIk> eyequeue my / partition which var is a part of is very far from being filled up
[08:23] <bozzu> Ky0tIk, can you send me your sources.list?
[08:23] <dooglus> tritium: it seems that update-rc.d doesn't work if the package is already installed...
[08:24] <Ky0tIk> bozzu sure
[08:24] <dooglus> sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 2 .
[08:24] <Ky0tIk> ill pm it to ya
[08:24] <dooglus>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist.
[08:24] <Ky0tIk> hang on a sec
[08:24] <aftertaf> dooglus:  what do you want to do with init.d ?
[08:24] <eyequeue> Ky0tIk:  heh, if ever / fills up, apt will be the least of your worries :)
[08:24] <rathma> !info sources
[08:24] <tritium> dooglus, I think he wants to stop it...
[08:24] <cafuego_> tritium: *!uvwegh@85.100.201.247
[08:24] <angryfix> i just don't want it to boot
[08:24] <eyequeue> dooglus:  the -f switch is your friend then
[08:24] <aftertaf> dooglus:  use the force switch.   -f then remove
[08:24] <yapyccky> echo "base=0xE0000000 size=0x3E80000 type=write-combining" >| /proc/mtrr
[08:24] <angryfix> i mean, more correctly, I just don't want X to start with boot
[08:24] <dooglus> tritium: right, I know, but I've already stopped mine... so I was trying to start it.
[08:25] <yapyccky> cat /proc/mtrr
[08:25] <yapyccky> reg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1
[08:25] <aftertaf> update-rc.d -f initscript remove
[08:25] <yapyccky> why?
[08:25] <dooglus> -f is only for 'remove'
[08:25] <eyequeue> dooglus:  the -f switch is for while the /etc/init.d/foo file still exists
[08:25] <Ky0tIk> eyequeue, i dont plan on my / filling up..  i use other partitions that are mounted in my /media/   and /home to download and install stuff to ;)
[08:25] <jgrieves_> xinit -display :1 -d 24
[08:25] <jgrieves_>  is this valid, and if so, how can i see it on the screen
[08:25] <aftertaf> dooglus:  yep. you remove, then you add with your other comand.
[08:25] <cafuego_> tritium: botsnack
[08:25] <yapyccky> please guys help me...
[08:25] <aftertaf> lol
[08:26] <tritium> thanks, cafuego
[08:26] <dooglus> aftertaf: that involves messing with all the runlevels.  all we want to do is change the default one (level 2)
[08:26] <eyequeue> tritium:  i don't know; is it bigger than a breadbox?
[08:26] <dooglus> my 'mv' is much simpler...
[08:26] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ oh hey :)
[08:26] <aftertaf> dooglus:  i use webmin ;)
[08:26] <tritium> heh, eyequeue
[08:26] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[08:26] <dooglus> aftertaf: ok.  I used to use sysv-rc-conf
[08:26] <dooglus> there are lots of ways of doing it, for sure.
[08:27] <konra`> breezy is nice :)
[08:27] <tritium> dooglus' mv is much simpler, I agree.
[08:27] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ i hav eit so that the user picks an option fron Desktop menu and then that runs xinit which then searches for .xinitrc and .xserverrc
[08:27] <aftertaf> newb chooses one he understands most
[08:27] <aftertaf> me == n00bish
[08:27] <konra`> breezy is very nice :)
[08:27] <konra`> logins are VERY fast now
[08:27] <konra`> and umm
[08:27] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ but it just sits there with blank screen
[08:27] <konra`> lots of nice improvements
[08:27] <EnsignRedshirt> eyequeue: Aarrrgghhh....
[08:27] <dooglus> angryfix: so:  sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 2 .
[08:27] <dooglus> argh.
[08:27] <dooglus> no!
[08:27] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone have problems using ndiswrapper in breezy?
[08:28] <eyequeue> EnsignRedshirt:    nice nick btw ;)
[08:28] <dooglus> angryfix: so:    sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/{S13,K01}gdm
[08:28] <jgrieves_> Fanskapet, it works like a charm for me
[08:28] <tritium> angryfix, dooglus' mv really is just as effective, and it is easier, if you prefer
[08:28] <EnsignRedshirt> Quickie (making the transition from warty to breezy): evince is the standard pdf viewer for breezy?
[08:28] <angryfix> yeah, that sounds good. Thanks. I'm all for the simple solution while I learn more about linux.
[08:29] <eyequeue> EnsignRedshirt:  nod, i think it had some new features too, when they were deciding
[08:29] <topyli> EnsignRedshirt: it is
[08:29] <dooglus> angryfix: if you really want to know what's going on, run this before you do anything:
[08:29] <jgrieves_> if I run xinit -display :1 how can i see it on the screen?
[08:29] <dooglus> ls -l /etc/rc?.d/???gdm
[08:29] <dooglus> angryfix: you will see 7 links, for run levels 0 through 6.
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> OK... just tweaking some software (non-Ubuntu) that runs a pdf viewer.
[08:30] <angryfix> are the run levels like priority in windows?
[08:30] <topyli> jgrieves_: the session should appear on vt 8
[08:30] <dooglus> the ones with 'S' are the levels which run gdm.  the ones with 'K' kill gdm.  gdm is 'X'...  (kindof)
[08:30] <jgrieves_> topyli how can i "see" vt 8?
[08:30] <dooglus> angryfix: no.  a runlevel is a set of services, basically.
[08:30] <aftertaf> alt + F8
[08:30] <jgrieves_> topyli thought it was tty8..
[08:30] <angryfix> ok
[08:30] <topyli> jgrieves_: ctrl-alt-f8
[08:31] <cafuego_> tritium: they're breeding
[08:31] <tritium> yes they are
[08:31] <dooglus> you can define levels like "in runlevel 4 I want apache and ssh to be running"
[08:31] <eyequeue> jgrieves_: alt-ctrl-(Fttynumberhere)
[08:31] <topyli> jgrieves_: oh, probably. i was thinking about virtual terminals
[08:31] <jgrieves_> im in cmware :)
[08:31] <tritium> nalioth, let's give cafuego 29 in -unregged
[08:31] <jgrieves_> wow
[08:31] <jgrieves_> vmware
[08:31] <angryfix> I'll check that out dooglus
[08:31] <cafuego_> turkey and romania
[08:32] <eyequeue> jgrieves_: alt-ctrl- right or left arrow sometimes (or just alt?)
[08:32] <jgrieves_> eyequeue ctrl + alt + arrows does workspaces
[08:32] <dooglus> angryfix: if you look at the top of /etc/inittab, you'll see the "default runlevel"
[08:32] <keffynd> how can I enable DMA on my DVD?
[08:32] <eyequeue> jgrieves_:  yes, but only in x :)  if cli i think you'll find it cycles vts
[08:33] <keffynd> !tell keffynd about DMA
[08:33] <eyequeue> jgrieves_:  oops, no ctrl though
[08:33] <xfelon> anyone willing to help a linux noob?
[08:33] <Hmmmm> xfelon, shoot
[08:33] <angryfix> looks like I need to wipe the dust off that How Linux Works book and get cracking
[08:33] <aftertaf> thats why we're here xfelon :)
[08:33] <jgrieves_> eyequeue xinit -display :1 -d 24
[08:33] <xfelon> thanks
[08:33] <yapyccky> guys i need a help, please
[08:33] <xfelon> i dont even know how to open a file
[08:34] <jgrieves_> then it just sits there
[08:34] <xfelon> im in a terminal
[08:34] <aftertaf> yapyccky:  ask question
[08:34] <xfelon> trying to open the program TAR
[08:34] <jgrieves_> then after about 20 seconds it returns to the termianl
[08:34] <jgrieves_> prompt
[08:34] <xfelon> i typed
[08:34] <xfelon> "cd Desktop"
[08:34] <xfelon> then "ls"
[08:34] <xfelon> and it shows
[08:34] <yapyccky> aftertaf : im trying to set up mtrr to improve video quality
[08:34] <jgrieves_> what does that mean exactly?
[08:34] <Fanskapet> jgrieves_: hmm odd.. doesn't work for me.. i get a ip by dhclient though
[08:34] <xfelon> tar0-1.15.1 and tar-1.15.1.tar.gz
[08:34] <zcat[1] > tar xf foo.tar
[08:34] <Fanskapet> but it won't let me surf or anything.
[08:34] <jgrieves_> ?
[08:34] <zcat[1] > tar xzf foo.tgz
[08:34] <Hmmmm> what exactly do u want to do
[08:34] <yapyccky> aftertaf : but i dunno why result of "echo" doesnt appear on /proc/mtrr
[08:34] <aftertaf> yapyccky:  ah. too l33t for me :) i'm an informed noob
[08:34] <dooglus> xfelon: type "tar xf tar*.gz"
[08:34] <Hmmmm> can u explain in one or 2 lines?
[08:35] <Fanskapet> dunno what's wrong.. even though i have the gateway as the wlan card.
[08:35] <cafuego_> xfelon: Why do you have a 'tar' tarball?
[08:35] <xfelon> idk
[08:35] <dooglus> xfelon: heh
[08:35] <yapyccky> aftertaf : what do u mean? sorry but my english is not so good
[08:35] <xfelon> ok i typed that
[08:35] <Hmmmm> xfelon, do u want to extract a tar file?
[08:35] <dooglus> you must have downloaded it for some reason?
[08:35] <xfelon> i want to install the program tar
[08:35] <dooglus> xfelon: it's already installed :)
[08:35] <tritium> xfelon, tar should already be installed
[08:35] <cafuego_> xfelon: it's already installed.
[08:35] <xfelon> oh
[08:36] <xfelon> so wtf
[08:36] <xfelon> lol
[08:36] <trigger_ph> hi..
[08:36] <topyli> xfelon: you have already unzipped the tar.gz, so you just need to extract the tarball. you can do that in one step as well
[08:36] <xfelon> ok how
[08:36] <dooglus> xfelon: just type "tar" and you'll see it complain that it wants more arguments
[08:36] <keffynd> DMA doesnt work on a DVD??
[08:36] <cafuego_> xfelon: If you want to extract a tarball, just double-click the file.
[08:36] <zcat[1] > _almost everything_ is already installed.. everything you're likely to need by default anyhow
[08:36] <ht_> man tar
[08:37] <xfelon> I dont see any tarbals
[08:37] <trigger_ph> can anyone please help me remove a startup command in a session? my pc doesn't make it past that to load metacity and others anymore
[08:37] <topyli> xfelon: tar xzf blahblah.tar.gz. or, if you have a bzipped tarball, tar xjf blahblah.tar.bz2
[08:37] <zcat[1] > Unlike certain other operating systems, ubuntu doesn't come with SFA apps and require you to download stuff to do anyhing useful.
[08:37] <cafuego_> xfelon: <heh> Why do you need '
[08:37] <cafuego_> tar' then? ;-)
[08:37] <xfelon> idk
[08:37] <xfelon> so i can install all my other programs?
[08:37] <aftertaf> yapyccky:  means, i dont know..... im not a very good linux user...:/
[08:37] <bobby> hmm
[08:37] <xfelon> I want to use bmpx and azureus
[08:37] <cafuego_> xfelon: start synaptic from the admin menu.
[08:37] <dooglus> xfelon: "tarball" is a name for any ".tar.gz", ".tgz", ".tar.bz2", ".tbz" and so on...
[08:37] <cafuego_> ah, i see...
[08:37] <keffynd> HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:37] <xfelon> k
[08:38] <cafuego_> that's a tad trickier.
[08:38] <xfelon> ive untared it
[08:38] <trigger_ph> any takers please?
[08:38] <xfelon> i can go into the folder
[08:38] <xfelon> and i see, a bunch of folders and files
[08:38] <topyli> xfelon: you don't want to install tar from source. you already have tar
[08:38] <cafuego_> xfelon: there there one called 'Makefile' ?
[08:38] <xfelon> makefile.am
[08:38] <xfelon> makefile.in
[08:39] <cafuego_> in the extracted tar-1.1.5 folder?
[08:39] <xfelon> yes
[08:39] <topyli> xfelon: in fact you don't want to install anything from source
[08:39] <xfelon> so what do i do?
[08:39] <topyli> i know i don't :)
[08:39] <dooglus> xfelon: tar is installed already.  forgot about compiling tar.
[08:39] <trigger_ph> can anyone please help me remove a startup command in a session? my pc doesn't make it past that to load metacity and others anymore
[08:39] <xfelon> k
[08:40] <topyli> xfelon: get rid of the tarballs and go about your daily business :)
[08:40] <Draucon> sneak
[08:40] <xfelon> does ubuntu come with  Sun Java 1.4.x ?
[08:40] <Java_The_Hutt> Question: Do guys suggest an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy or a format fresh install ?
[08:40] <HrdwrBob> jsut upgrade
[08:40] <dooglus> trigger_ph: the file is ~/.gnome2/session
[08:40] <Java_The_Hutt> xfelon, with little config you got java 1.5_04
[08:40] <dooglus> trigger_ph: rename it to something else temporarily
[08:40] <cjhcjhcjh> Q. Is the CD install able to shrink a FAT32 partition?
[08:40] <zcat[1] > xfelon: almost everything you could possibly want should already be installed. If not, try running synaptic and you'll probably find you can download and install it with a few mouseclicks
[08:40] <yapyccky> thx in anycase aftertaf
[08:40] <topyli> xfelon: no, you have to get java from Sun
[08:41] <xfelon> synaptic?
[08:41] <Java_The_Hutt> Question: Do guys suggest an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy or a format fresh install ?
[08:41] <aftertaf> xfelon:  gfx gui for apt, the ubuntu package system
[08:41] <trigger_ph> dooglus, i'll try that. hold on..
[08:41] <xfelon> where do i find it
[08:41] <aftertaf> Java_The_Hutt:  upgrade is the debian way :)
[08:41] <tsv> hi pplz
[08:41] <aftertaf> xfelon:  sudo apt-get install  synaptic
[08:41] <zcat[1] > xfelon: do you have a GUI configured?
[08:41] <aftertaf> or if installed, system menu
[08:41] <lightstar> Java_The_Hutt: an upgrade will do just fine
[08:41] <xfelon> no
[08:41] <xfelon> im using gnome right now i think
[08:41] <topyli> xfelon: it's in the System menu of your top panel
[08:41] <xfelon> i just installed
[08:41] <Java_The_Hutt> ok thx
[08:42] <lightstar> Java_The_Hutt :np
[08:42] <xfelon> synaptic package manager?
[08:42] <topyli> yes
[08:42] <zcat[1] > Yeah, that!
[08:42] <sampan> that's the magic tool
[08:42] <xfelon> How do I configure a gui?
[08:42] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  fresh start is nice for those who need someone to clean out their $HOME every 6 months :)
[08:42] <xfelon> do i want gnome or kdi
[08:42] <cjhcjhcjh> Q. Is the CD install able to shrink a FAT32 partition? Or do you have to make space first?
[08:42] <xfelon> kde*
[08:42] <zcat[1] > No need.. apparently you're already in it
[08:42] <ktogias> Is that bad? : Installing console-common (0.7.51ubuntu1) ... Looking for keymap to install:
[08:42] <ktogias>  NONE
[08:42] <ktogias> null symbol found
[08:42] <ktogias> in dist-upgrade
[08:43] <pef> hello !
[08:43] <xfelon> Do I need to configure a gui if i just installed?
[08:43] <eyequeue> ktogias:  mine reads "NONE" too when i upgrade that package
[08:43] <topyli> xfelon: you do have a gui. you just said you have stuff on your desktop
[08:43] <xfelon> k
[08:43] <xfelon> i have gnome
[08:43] <trigger_ph> dooglus, it worked! thank you!
[08:43] <xfelon> but i didnt config it
[08:43] <zcat[1] > gnome is a gui
[08:43] <xfelon> it did it on its own
[08:43] <topyli> xfelon: the installer has configured it for you
[08:43] <xfelon> k good
[08:43] <eyequeue> ktogias:  it's not been a problem here, i wouldn't worry (unless you need some special keymap i guess)
[08:44] <xfelon> so in order for me to run azureus i need sun java installed right?
[08:44] <topyli> xfelon: yes
[08:44] <zcat[1] > xfelon: I suggest you work your way through the menus and find out what you already have.. if you're used to windows "three games and a crappy media player" you'll be quite surprised how many applications are already installed..
[08:44] <shale> most ppl suggest an apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:44] <shale> but it hosed my laptop because i'd customized my X drivers and what-not
[08:44] <shale> so now i've reinstalled fresh but i have no 3d accel with my ati x300
[08:45] <xfelon> k
[08:45] <xfelon> ive used windows my whole life
[08:45] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell shale about repos
[08:45] <jrr> how might i choose which soundcard to use primarily?
[08:45] <haro> Where can I get a ubuntu sources mirror list?
[08:45] <anthony>  /burp
[08:46] <xfelon> what is Linux RPM?
[08:46] <xfelon> Linux RPM (self-extracting file)
[08:46] <haro> how might i choose which soundcard to use primarily?
[08:46] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell haro about repos
[08:46] <ktogias> haro, look at the topic
[08:46] <jrr> that's a redhat (and a few other distros) package
[08:46] <haro> ....
[08:46] <anthony> Gt3 is for KDE right?
[08:46] <eyequeue> haro:  the pastebins have ... you want something else, sorry, stand by
[08:47] <xfelon> Linux RPM (self-extracting file)
[08:47] <xfelon> what is RPM?
[08:47] <eyequeue> xfelon:  "redhat package manager"
[08:47] <xfelon> oh
[08:47] <xfelon> sorry
[08:47] <eyequeue> rpm (8)              - RPM Package Manager
[08:47] <ktogias> xfelon, Redhat Package Management
[08:48] <xfelon> does linux download faster?
[08:48] <eyequeue> xfelon:  it's also the name of the format they put their packages into (like .deb in ubuntu)
[08:48] <xfelon> seems like it
[08:48] <xfelon> 410kb/s versus 350kb/s on windows
[08:48] <topyli> !java
[08:48] <ubotu> it has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[08:49] <zcat[1] > rpm and deb are how linux packages programs.. like msi in windows..
[08:49] <topyli> xfelon: look at what ubotu just said
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ... i seriously doubt linux can affect the download speed xfelon ...
[08:49] <zcat[1] > wickedpuppy: default MTU?
[08:49] <jrr> wickedpuppy: i don't
[08:49] <cjhcjhcjh> Does the desktop have a chat program that can connect to MSN Messenger?
[08:49] <jrr> cjhcjhcjh: gaim
[08:49] <xfelon> ok
[08:50] <cjhcjhcjh> jrr: thx
[08:50] <eyequeue> wickedpuppy:  other than less spyware eating up available bandwidth maybe :)
[08:50] <xfelon> so ubuntu is debain?
[08:50] <HrdwrBob> no
[08:50] <sally_> what repos do I have to add to be able to install mplayer?  right now I have universe main restricted multiverse
[08:50] <zcat[1] > ubuntu is based on debian..
[08:50] <sally_> I am on breezy
[08:50] <eyequeue> cjhcjhcjh:  applications > internet > gaim
[08:50] <cevizoglu> which key modifiers correspond to the underlined letters in ubuntu?  Control, Alt, and Shift don't seem to work.
[08:50] <mcquaid> hello, i want to compile a qt app thats not in breezy yet, but i'm getting onfigure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3
[08:50] <cjhcjhcjh> eyequeue: tvm
[08:50] <eyequeue> cjhcjhcjh:  np
[08:50] <mcquaid> and i've got all the dev libs i can see
[08:50] <topyli> xfelon: debian is the mothership, many linux distributions (like ubuntu) are based on it
[08:50] <xfelon> k
[08:50] <xfelon> i am getting owned lol
[08:51] <mcquaid> i complied a few qt apps in hoary without issue
[08:51] <sally_> mcquaid, do export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 or something then
[08:51] <cevizoglu> oops.. if someone answered my question, please say agin
[08:51] <cevizoglu> er, again
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> so can i get higer speed with linux+dialup than windows+cable ?
[08:51] <johntramp> do you need to format and reinstall ubuntu to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?
[08:51] <sally_> mcquaid, I don't know what the actual qt directory is though... if you know that already, sorry, it's all I know
[08:51] <mcquaid> i tried: ./configure ---with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3
[08:51] <topyli> johntramp: no, just upgrade
[08:51] <johntramp> cool
[08:51] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell johntramp about breezy
[08:51] <sally_> mcquaid, but it's looking for the env variable QTDIR
[08:51] <ktogias> After upgrading hoary to breezy, i have 5 packages that will not be upgraded... How do I cope with them? (eg. See what happens with every single one, or there is a command that will resolv their deps?)
[08:52] <johntramp> eyequeue, lol
[08:52] <eyequeue> johntramp:  that url gives the much simpler method
[08:52] <cevizoglu> nevermind, I figured it out
[08:52] <xfelon> what do i use to open .deb?
[08:52] <jas_> Hello I am wondering if Samba will run on Ubuntu?
[08:52] <sally_> does anyone know what repository I have to add to my sources list file to be able to install mplayer
[08:52] <johntramp> thansk
[08:52] <topyli> ktogias: did you upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[08:52] <sally_> xfelon, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[08:52] <zcat[1] > johntramp: hell no, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list change hoary to breezy, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:52] <ktogias> topyli, yes
[08:52] <xfelon> in terminal?
[08:52] <sally_> yeah
[08:52] <xfelon> k
[08:52] <xfelon> one sec
[08:52] <ktogias> topyli, dist-upgrade
[08:52] <eyequeue> sally_:  Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-586_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb
[08:52] <b3nw> has anyone gotten dvd shrink working on breezy
[08:52] <b3nw> ?
[08:52] <eyequeue> sally_:  multiverse it seems
[08:52] <shale> !tell me 3d
[08:53] <starscalling> shin
[08:53] <shale> !tell me ati
[08:53] <shini-sama> starscalling
[08:53] <starscalling> ask here
[08:53] <starscalling> :)
[08:53] <shini-sama> no
[08:53] <shini-sama> lol
[08:53] <starscalling> bah
[08:53] <topyli> ktogias: sometimes you need to do it several times to give apt a chance to sort things out
[08:53] <xfelon> wtf
[08:53] <shale> how do i get my ati x300 3d working under breezy?
[08:53] <xfelon> the file has a password
[08:53] <jas_> cafuego_: Do you know if Samba will run on Ubuntu?
[08:53] <zcat[1] > b3nw: install mplayer/mencoder
[08:53] <shini-sama> i dont ask questions
[08:53] <starscalling> these guys are way better than #debian
[08:53] <xfelon> Those files ubotn gave me had passwrods
[08:53] <shini-sama> i play to the point of frustration
[08:53] <starscalling> hey
[08:53] <cevizoglu> shale, beats me.  I walked through the ATI drivers wiki and it didn't work
[08:53] <sally_> xfelon, no they dont
[08:53] <starscalling> who could tell me how to change ownership of ntfs hdd mounted to a folder
[08:54] <zcat[1] > mencoder will read and re-encode DVD's (with the right libraries..)
[08:54] <starscalling> please
[08:54] <sally_> xfelon, just type in your user password
[08:54] <starscalling> :P
[08:54] <jas_> crimsun : Hey whats up?  That mounting really helped out.  I appriciate it.  Do you know though if Samba will run on Ubuntu??
[08:54] <xfelon> oh
[08:54] <xfelon> lol
[08:54] <shale> cevizoglu: which wiki?
[08:54] <xfelon> ok
[08:54] <xfelon> is it installed now?
[08:54] <tritium> jas_, samba definitely runs on ubuntu
[08:54] <xfelon> "setting up sun-j2re1.5..."
[08:54] <ktogias> topyli, Have already run apt-get dist-upgrade a 3-4 times... It doesn't seem to do something new with those packages.
[08:54] <eyequeue> dvds:  that reminds me ... what do people recommend to use to backup to dvd-rw ?
[08:54] <cevizoglu> shale; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:54] <jas_> tritium: Okay what package should I download??
[08:54] <starscalling> jas_::
[08:54] <starscalling> there is something really nice in ubuntu
[08:55] <starscalling> let me find again
[08:55] <cafuego_> jas_: Yes, samba runs fine on ubuntu.
[08:55] <elad`> How do I remove "lock current location" from Konqueror's default settings?
[08:55] <xfelon> ok sally
[08:55] <shini-sama> lol
[08:55] <tritium> jas_, samba, literally
[08:55] <starscalling> it can browse windows folders great
[08:55] <xfelon> after i installed those .deb's can i delete them?
[08:55] <brentdax> Error while upgrading: "E: /cdrom//pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_i386.deb:  subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2"
[08:55] <xfelon> or do i need them to stay on my desktop?
[08:55] <cevizoglu> shale, actually, I think I failed to edit my xorg.conf file.  maybe that will make it work
[08:55] <eyequeue> xfelon:  unless you want to use them on another machine later or something
[08:56] <xfelon> no
[08:56] <Java_The_Hutt> Question: is there any significant disadvantage (like unstability) of Kubuntu over ubuntu
[08:56] <ktogias> topyli, I am taking them one-by-one... It seems to work...
[08:56] <xfelon> when i move to trash can i ever get that stuff back?
[08:56] <jrr> yes.
[08:56] <topyli> ktogias: there are unresolved dependencies it seems. apt-get -f install might help. or not
[08:56] <brentdax> This happened after it started applying the new packages, so I'm worried it might have messed something up...
[08:56] <jas_> cafuego_: Do you think you could help me install it because to be honest as you know I'm a Linux nub!
[08:56] <ktogias> topyli, I tryed that too.
[08:56] <xfelon> rofl i have Azureus running
[08:56] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  the "[dis] advantage" is that is uses kde rather than gnome
[08:56] <sally_> xfelon, I have  no idea I  installed ubuntu for the first time this evening... and right now I got back from a party and am drunk
[08:56] <topyli> xfelon: sure, until you empty the trash
[08:56] <xfelon> how do i empty trash?
[08:57] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  some would say advantage, some would say disadvantage :)  whichever you prefer
[08:57] <jrr> it's just like windows. right click on the trash can.
[08:57] <ktogias> xfelon, rightclick on it
[08:57] <xfelon> i dont see any trash cans
[08:57] <zcat[1] > same as windows, right click on it and 'empty the trash'
[08:57] <eyequeue> xfelon:  right click on it
[08:57] <Java_The_Hutt> eyequeue, as a first sight  i found KDE superior over GNOME, why do some think otherwise ?
[08:57] <eyequeue> xfelon:  bottom right corner (if in gnome)
[08:57] <xfelon> haa
[08:57] <xfelon> jsut found it
[08:57] <topyli> xfelon: it's in your bottom panel, on the right
[08:57] <jas_> xfelon : Its on the right bottom side of the Panel it looks like a trash can.
[08:57] <brentdax> (I grabbed an ISO off BitTorrent for the base packages, and then set synaptic using it and online repositories for everything that wasn't on the CD.)
[08:57] <xfelon> thanks
[08:57] <zcat[1] > right click on desktop and tell it to show you the trash..
[08:57] <xfelon> man you guys rock
[08:57] <starscalling> i think its places >> network servers
[08:58] <xfelon> im never going back to windows =)
[08:58] <jas_> cafuego_: Do you think you could help me install it because to be honest as you know I'm a Linux nub!
[08:58] <zcat[1] > it should be in the desktop settings somewhere
[08:58] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  that "windowsish" feel and eye candy can be viewed as bloat to some.  use whichever you like and your machine likes, really
[08:58] <b3nw> has anyone gotten dvd shrink working on breezy?
[08:59] <zcat[1] > isn't dvdshrink a windows program?
[08:59] <xfelon> ya
[08:59] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  an old slow machine may prefer something lighter like xfce ("xubuntu")
[08:59] <Java_The_Hutt> Question: Can i upgrade from ubuntu hoary to Kubuntu Breezy ?
[08:59] <b3nw> with wine
[08:59] <Razor-X> does anyone here have a deep, profession-announcer-style voice, and if they could record a sound byte for me, could they PM me?
[08:59] <starscalling> zcat[1] :: yeah
[08:59] <starscalling> but its on linux too
[08:59] <brentdax> Also got a lot of errors about "extracting templates from packages" (can't c&p those).
[08:59] <Razor-X> eyequeue: have you tried ratpoison?
[08:59] <starscalling> ive used it to good effect
[08:59] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  yes
[08:59] <b3nw> starscalling - on breezy?
[08:59] <topyli> Java_The_Hutt: sure. upgrade and install kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: oddly enough a mate here is a voice actor!
[09:00] <Java_The_Hutt> thx all
[09:00] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: excellent!
[09:00] <starscalling> yeah b3nw
[09:00] <starscalling> o
[09:00] <starscalling> no
[09:00] <starscalling> on debian
[09:00] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: can he record something for me in a small WAV?
[09:00] <b3nw> :\
[09:00] <starscalling> but why not get the package and build it
[09:00] <eyequeue> Java_The_Hutt:  installl kubuntu-desktop (uninstall ubuntu-desktop) and then do the upgrade to breezy that everyone is recommending
[09:00] <shini-sama> :'(
[09:00] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: I could ask. is it commercial or just personal?
[09:00] <starscalling> OMFG updates FINISHED downloading!
[09:00] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: personal, totally
[09:00] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  no, not personally
[09:00] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: it's for a school project
[09:00] <starscalling> 196 of em >_<
[09:01] <Razor-X> eyequeue: if you want to go really minimalistic, it's pretty useful
[09:01] <angryfix> This is sort of odd. I was trying to install a day of defeat server and I messed up the command line arguments and it created a dir called '-dir'. Well I can't erase the damn thing because it keep trying to read -dir as a parameter for mkdir.
[09:01] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  like it?
[09:01] <b3nw> wine and winesetuptk won't install together, its either one or the other, its like they arn't setup the same... so every guide i try to follow doesn't work... I can get dvd shrink started but when I open a disk it bombs out.
[09:01] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: in that case, np, I will ask as a favor. email me details, chris_hopkin@hotmail.com
[09:01] <Razor-X> eyequeue: it's prety nice, you wanna see a screenshot?
[09:01] <^fuelman> What aboy Edubuntu for the kids .. no mirrors .. can only DL in 50k / s
[09:01] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: can I PM you? because it's pretty simple
[09:01] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  yeah, i only mention xfce due to the new xubuntu option heh
[09:01] <Razor-X> it's a few seconds, at most
[09:01] <b3nw> "Failed to initalize ASPI device"
[09:01] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  sure, if you have one handy :)
[09:01] <Razor-X> eyequeue: yeah, XFce is pretty nice, you can try ratpoison too
[09:01] <starscalling> b3nw:: ill have it in in a couple days if no one else gets it working for ya ill try to help :P
[09:01] <starscalling> b/c i MUST have it XD
[09:01] <zcat[1] > cjhcjhcjh: cool; I need all my asterisk prompts redone too.. the defaults aren't too great :(
[09:01] <Razor-X> eyequeue: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png
[09:01] <brentdax> Shit, I think locales are broken...
[09:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[09:02] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: I a part way thru trying to get this install set-up and have no ps or anything etc (lol at asterix)
[09:02] <tritium> brentdax, please don't curse, kthx
[09:02] <cjhcjhcjh> s/ps/pm/
[09:02] <EnsignRedshirt> If I plug in a USB printer, should Ubuntu (breezy) detect it automatically?
[09:02] <shini-sama> anyone know how to mount an ntfs filesystem so its readable by someone other than root?
[09:03] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  nice
[09:03] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, depends on the printer
[09:03] <Razor-X> shini-sama: sudo mount /dev/path/to/drive /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[09:03] <Seveas> shini-sama, add umask=0000
[09:03] <zcat[1] > hmm.. I just removed my currently running kernel in synaptic. It got really paranoid about it too :)
[09:03] <shini-sama> thanks, i'll try that now
[09:03] <Razor-X> Seveas: but isn't ntfs dangerous to be written by someone other than root?
[09:03] <Seveas> zcat[1] , hehe :)
[09:03] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm using System->Administration->Printers->New Printer; the printer does not show up in "Use a detected printer"
[09:03] <starscalling> btw
[09:03] <zcat[1] > swapping 386 to 686 ..
[09:03] <Seveas> Razor-X, even with umask=0000 it's readonly :)
[09:03] <aftertaf> ntfs wont write at all.....
[09:04] <Razor-X> eyequeue: like my Konsole theme?
[09:04] <eyequeue> zcat[1] :  i'd install a good one before rebooting :)
[09:04] <Razor-X> Seveas: oh, meh
[09:04] <starscalling> i was using k3b to burn b3nw
[09:04] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  yes :)
[09:04] <brentdax> tritium, please give soem consideration to the fact that I'm worried I may have seriously damaged my installation and I can't seem to find anyone willing to give me a hint about what might be going on, kthx.
[09:04] <shini-sama> i know i cant write to it
[09:04] <brentdax> *some
[09:04] <shini-sama> just want to read it
[09:04] <zcat[1] > Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 (2.6.12-9.23) ...
[09:04] <Seveas> brentdax, 'sup?
[09:04] <shini-sama> :D
[09:04] <zcat[1] > I have live cd's .. I can recover from almost anything anyhow..
[09:04] <xfelon> hey does anyone have a linksys wireless g router?
[09:04] <EnsignRedshirt> I get some activity in dmesg when I plug the printer in, but I'm not sure what to do next...
[09:04] <shini-sama> woot, that worked, thanks Razor-X
[09:05] <tritium> brentdax, what's going on?
[09:05] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: got my PM?
[09:05] <eyequeue> xfelon:  no one does :)  what did you need?
[09:05] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, system-> admin->printers perhaps...
[09:05] <xfelon> well
[09:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: That's what I'm looking at now, but the printer has not been detected.
[09:05] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: probably, but being n00b I don&t know how to raed it ;-)
[09:05] <xfelon> i need to open the port 6881
[09:05] <xfelon> it says its blacklisted
[09:05] <xfelon> wondering if anyone knew how
[09:05] <eyequeue> xfelon:  (wrt54g here)
[09:05] <xfelon> ME TOO
[09:05] <xfelon> wrt54g
[09:06] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: oh, meh, then here it is
[09:06] <cevizoglu> I'm trying to configure 3D accel on an ATI X300 w/ breezy on a thinkpad.  I've install xorg-server-fglrx, but I'm not sure what to do next?  do I edit xorg.conf? rebuild the kernel? or both?
[09:06] <zcat[1] > rebooting.. If I'm not back in three minutes you'll know I screwed up the kernel :)
[09:06] <brentdax> Downloaded an ISO of Breezy off BitTorrent.  Used that plus the repositories to upgrade, but when Synaptic got to the "apply" step, I got a bunch of errors during preprocessing implying that it couldn't read files it had snagged from the CD and finally bailed while trying to unpack libstdc++.
[09:06] <brentdax> I can't get an md5sum off /dev/cdrom--is that normal?
[09:06] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, have you checked linuxprinting.org ?
[09:06] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: I was wondering if he could say this in a deep voice ``It's your friends Mr. Baa baa and Mr. Hoppy IN --- BOOK TALK'' (Mr. Baa baa is a sheep, and Mr. Hoppy is a frog)
[09:06] <Razor-X> mmmm, FMA Complete Best is one of my all-time favorite CDs
[09:07] <eyequeue> xfelon:  you know how to get to the router with firefox, right?
[09:07] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: heh not at all off-topic, eh? ok I will ask...but will need to be able to contact you back so email would help ;-)
[09:07] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: I need it for a school project tomorrow :P
[09:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: This printer worked fine in warty.  It is in the list of supported printers.
[09:07] <aftertaf> "Could't stat source package list...", when apt-get update.... any ideas why?
[09:07] <eyequeue> xfelon: applications and gming, then open the port
[09:07] <shale> breezy is a lot sluggier than winxp on my laptop
[09:07] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: Deaths.Hell@gmail.com
[09:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: I think it might be a detection/USB problem.
[09:07] <aftertaf> shale:  install kernel for your proc type.
[09:07] <shale> :(
[09:07] <Razor-X> *gasp* my email address was just imprinted on logs worldwide :P
[09:07] <xfelon> what is gming?
[09:08] <brentdax> When I try to md5sum /dev/cdrom: "error processing /dev/cdrom: failed in buffer_read(fd): mdfile: Input/output error"
[09:08] <xfelon> now
[09:08] <xfelon> i have to type in a url to my firefox browser
[09:08] <xfelon> forgot the url
[09:08] <Razor-X> I think i'm the first, ever, to do that :P
[09:08] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, might very well be, consider filing a bug at bugzilla (include the dmesg stuff there and the fact thatit worked in warty)
[09:08] <airxdres> Hi all
[09:08] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: I will go ask now
[09:09] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: thanks
[09:09] <brentdax> aftertaf: I'm no expert, but I usually see that when a server is down or misconfigured.
[09:09] <xfelon> wait
[09:09] <xfelon> i found it
[09:09] <xfelon> eyequeue i foudn ti
[09:09] <aftertaf> brentdax:  or when no net connection is up?
[09:09] <aftertaf> thx
[09:09] <brentdax> aftertaf: I suppose that would do it too.
[09:09] <eyequeue> xfelon:  Setup | Wireless | Security | Access Restrictions | Applications & Gaming | Administration | Setup
[09:10] <xfelon> yaes
[09:10] <xfelon> i foudn it
[09:10] <xfelon> lol sorry
[09:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: Hmmm... I got it working by selecting "USB Printer #1".  Go figure.
[09:10] <xfelon> now how do i unblock
[09:10] <cevizoglu> nevermind, I found what to change in the xorg.conf file... blah
[09:10] <xfelon> where do i put ip?
[09:10] <eyequeue> xfelon:  i type slowly
[09:10] <xfelon> its ok
[09:10] <brentdax> Maybe I'll try to get the ISO onto one of my other machines and burn it from there...
[09:10] <aftertaf> brentdax:  hmm. trying to help s/one who has no X and no net connection after his upgrade to breezy.....
[09:10] <xfelon> can i just have all ports for azureus open?
[09:10] <Seveas> aftertaf, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:10] <eyequeue> xfelon:  A&G > Port Range Forward
[09:11] <aftertaf> Seveas:  ok.
[09:11] <xfelon> yes im there
[09:11] <xfelon> anyway to make azureus open 24/7?
[09:11] <xfelon> instead of ports
[09:11] <eyequeue> xfelon: just to the left of enable is where you put the ip of your host
[09:11] <aftertaf> lwells:  try the dpkg command i sent you....
[09:11] <eyequeue> xfelon: not sure, i guess google may know
[09:12] <dazvid> Whats a nice program to burn ISO's with?
[09:12] <aftertaf> dazvid:  k3b
[09:12] <dazvid> Danke
[09:12] <topyli> dazvid: nautilus
[09:12] <xmaster> xcdroast
[09:12] <dooglus> nero
[09:12] <eyequeue> what's a nice program to do backups to dvd-rw with?
[09:12] <dooglus> bad dooglus!  <slap>
[09:12] <dazvid> lol ^
[09:12] <topyli> dazvid: right-click on the iso, choose "write"
[09:12] <Seveas> !lart dooglus
[09:13] <dazvid> ah thanks topyli
[09:13] <eyequeue> or dvd+rw?  what's the difference? (this drive will do both)
[09:13] <xfelon> geeze this is tough
[09:13] <[nrx] > i need some webcam help if anyone wants to try with me?
[09:13] <rathma> re
[09:13] <dooglus> eyequeue: I hear that dvd+rw's play back in domestic DVD players?
[09:13] <bozeck> what is the application in gnome called that lets me drag windows from one virt desktop to another ? (the one in the toolbar on the bottom)
[09:13] <eyequeue> dooglus:  no idea
[09:14] <keffynd> [nrx]  start by taking your top off, other will think you are rushing things otherwise
[09:14] <lwells> the reconfigure did not work
[09:14] <Slaj_R> Does anyone else have problems installing RealPlayer?
[09:14] <[nrx] > thanks for the wise words, keffynd
[09:14] <topyli> bozeck: workspace switcher
[09:14] <dooglus> eyequeue: me either, but it's what I was told.  if you burn an mpeg to a dvd+rw, all dvd players will play it.  I don't know if dvd-rw is harder to get working, or impossible...
[09:14] <eyequeue> bozeck:  no idea, but if i right-click on the top of a window, i can move it to another desktop, if that helps any
[09:14] <kYotiK> anyone in here on the dabber development team?
[09:15] <kYotiK> thats the name of the 6.04 isnt it?
[09:15] <eyequeue> dooglus:  any idea on a good backup-to-dvd app?
[09:15] <rathma> i dont install (apt-get)  sun-j2re1.5 and any packages
[09:15] <dooglus> eyequeue: k3b I guess...
[09:15] <aftertaf> lwells:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, returned an error?
[09:15] <crimsun> (Dapper, and yes, quite a few people are)
[09:15] <eyequeue> dooglus:  i never got it working with dvds, may be me
[09:15] <dooglus> eyequeue: to tell the truth the only dvd writer I have access to is on a windows box...  so 'nero' is my truthful answer :)
[09:15] <lwells> command not found
[09:15] <kYotiK> yea i was wondering if i could help somehow
[09:15] <aftertaf> lwells:  if no error..... try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start'
[09:15] <eyequeue> dooglus:  gotcha
[09:15] <aftertaf> lwells:  check your fat fingers ;)
[09:16] <crimsun> kYotiK: there's a participation link in the home page
[09:16] <kYotiK> i'd like to help with packaging and finding new cool stuff for the repos, and start a team to help keep them maintained
[09:16] <lwells> hold on, yes that was it, fat again
[09:16] <aftertaf> lwells:  more than important to type the exact cmd in linux.... ;)
[09:16] <kYotiK> crimson i looked at the link, but i really wasnt too impressed with how it wanted me to go about doing it
[09:16] <kYotiK> i figured it would be better to ask in here in person
[09:16] <lwells> it says that xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[09:17] <bozeck> how would i initialize gnome to the state at its initial state, when I first install ubuntu
[09:17] <bozeck> ?
[09:17] <crimsun> kYotiK: /j ubuntu-motu
[09:17] <kYotiK> thanks crimsun
[09:17] <bozeck> Things have stopped running on gnome (workspace switcher and some other things)
[09:17] <xfelon> is there anyway to setup my GUI so it looks cleaner?
[09:17] <xfelon> and i can customize it better?
[09:17] <xfelon> im using gnome
[09:17] <kYotiK> bozneck: did you just do an update?
[09:18] <kYotiK> bozneck: it updated something that did that to mine, but it started working again shortly
[09:18] <bozeck> ky : i didn't.  but I share this machine with somebody else, it's not unlikely that he did
[09:18] <aftertaf> 616 users :)
[09:18] <eyequeue> xfelon:  system > preferences has some things that may help
[09:18] <lllmanulll> bozeck, You can delete your GNOME settings, but this is not totally harmless... You'll probably need to configure things again
[09:18] <kYotiK> bozeck, just give it a min
[09:18] <aftertaf> lwells:  ok.   did it say anything else?
[09:18] <sexcopter8001m> hey guys, can i just say, and i know it's early days, but breezy is perhaps the best thing that ever happened to my laptop =D
[09:19] <bozeck> it's been a few hours.
[09:19] <kYotiK> bozeck are you in gnome now and everything quit interacting?
[09:19] <kYotiK> like the menus would do anything, the iconified windows wouldnt let you open them up, etc?
[09:19] <bozeck> i'm in gnome now, but I'm still interacting with things
[09:19] <lwells> first message was warning:setting locale failed
[09:19] <kYotiK> bozeck: have you tried to killall -9 gnome-panel
[09:19] <bozeck> workspace switcher died, and whatever is in charge of some stuff in the bottom panel died
[09:20] <lwells> also said "Cannot set LC_CType to default locale
[09:20] <xfelon> eyequeue when i click install theme it asks for the install location
[09:20] <lwells> all stuff about Locale
[09:21] <bozeck> ky : that did  not seem to work.
[09:21] <eyequeue> xfelon:  i think it is looking for a url?
[09:21] <kYotiK> bozeck, did you just now try it ?
[09:21] <eyequeue> xfelon:  i think i found themes starting at gnome.org?  i forget
[09:22] <crimsun> lwells: those locale warnings are not show-stoppers
[09:22] <sampan> xfelon, you can download themes from gnome-look.org and then install from the saved files
[09:22] <lwells> show-stopper??
[09:22] <crimsun> lwells: first make sure you downloaded all the necessary Breezy updates
[09:22] <crimsun> lwells: it won't prevent a successful dist-upgrade
[09:22] <jolis> hello
[09:22] <zcat[1] > problem; nvidia drivers won't work - currently using 'nv' .. I installed restricted-modules-..-nvidia-legacy and dmesg says it's loaded but when I swap 'nv' to 'nvidia' in the xorg.conf it just won't start any more :(
[09:22] <lwells> well again, how can i , not connect to internet
[09:22] <BlankB> I add a line to my fstab for my firewire drive that includes user as one of the options but when I try to mount it as a user it always says: "mount: only root can do that" What could I be doing wrong?
[09:22] <xfelon> thanks
[09:23] <crimsun> lwells: do you have a 5.10 CD?
[09:23] <lwells> nope
[09:23] <eyequeue> sampan:  thanks
[09:23] <crimsun> I think it's time to wrangle one
[09:23] <sampan> eyequeue, sure np :)
[09:24] <lwells> well i can on the mac, but it will take awhile
[09:24] <teslan> Hey guys I have a weird problem.  I just installed Ubuntu but it is not installing GRUB correctly.  I get an error 5 when GRUB tries to load to finish the install.
[09:24] <bozeck> kyotik : yea.  all the panels restarted, but workspace switcher and the other app did not restart.  Everything else did, though.
[09:24] <xuniluser> When i upgrade my ubuntu to breezy badger, will it downgrade my apps?
[09:24] <lwells> what if i directly connect to the internet
[09:24] <starscalling> how does one install another gui? like kde?
[09:25] <crimsun> lwells: the machine you want to run Breezy?
[09:25] <kYotiK> bozeck: is everything working but the workspace switching and the other app?? btw what is the other app?
[09:25] <Jedrick> how to know if im using ubuntu breezy?
[09:25] <eyequeue> starscalling:  "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" is the simple way
[09:25] <lwells> i want to run it wireless, but maybe just to get this fixed
[09:25] <crimsun> Jedrick: lsb_release -a
[09:25] <kYotiK> starscalling: apt-get install kde-desktop
[09:25] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: tried to do the soundbite; prob with soundcard; am going to do it on a diff pc...should have it to you asap
[09:25] <sampan> starscalling, apt-get install kde-desktop ... iirc
[09:25] <sampan> lol
[09:25] <starscalling> sweet thanx kYotiK
[09:25] <crimsun> lwells: your wireless should already work.
[09:25] <kYotiK> oh yea kubuntu-desktop maybe
[09:26] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X: rebooting bbl
[09:26] <kYotiK> and of course sudo or su
[09:26] <crimsun> starscalling: kubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <starscalling> are there a lot of gui's as packages?
[09:26] <Razor-X> cjhcjhcjh: mmkay
[09:26] <lwells> it says "no wireless extentions"
[09:26] <crimsun> lwells: which chipset?
[09:26] <Jedrick> crimsun: thnx dude
[09:26] <StarKruzr> hi kids.
[09:26] <kYotiK> starscalling you might want to install xfce4
[09:26] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me install Sun's Java on breezy ?
[09:26] <lwells> "Brookdale"
[09:27] <crimsun> no, xubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <kYotiK> or you might even like enlightenment
[09:27] <eyequeue> starscalling:  "kubuntu-desktop" is actually something that pulls in all of the things you'd want to have a nice kde setup
[09:27] <kYotiK> xubuntu-desktop?
[09:27] <crimsun> yes
[09:27] <kYotiK> i thought it was kubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <starscalling> ah
[09:27] <starscalling> sweet
[09:27] <sampan> which wm/gui is xubuntu?
[09:27] <eyequeue> starscalling:  "xubuntu-desktop" is actually something that pulls in all of the things you'd want to have a nice xfce setup
[09:27] <crimsun> Xfce
[09:27] <LaserLine> I followed the wiki under restricted format's and used 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' to switch to Sun's java, but Konquerer or Firefox doesn't use it... (they were restarted)
[09:27] <sampan> oh -- nice
[09:27] <starscalling> so
[09:27] <starscalling> both of those couldnt hurt :P
[09:27] <kYotiK> starscalling most of us arent fans of KDE really heh
[09:28] <kYotiK> i hate the widgets and the windowish look myself
[09:28] <eyequeue> starscalling:  and of course "ubuntu-desktop" is actually something that pulls in all of the things you'd want to have a nice gnome setup
[09:28] <starscalling> just wanted to mess with a few things i guess
[09:28] <lwells> Maybe I will just create a Breezy CD tommorrow
[09:28] <starscalling> o.O
[09:28] <starscalling> really
[09:28] <kYotiK> but thats just the interface its still just as powerful, just been hooked on gnome for several years
[09:28] <starscalling> ill try that then
[09:28] <xfelon> hey i got annother q
[09:28] <xfelon> i have a logitech laser mouse
[09:28] <starscalling> eyequeue:: ever use k3b?
[09:28] <xfelon> and the thumb button "back" doesnt work
[09:28] <starscalling> i had a little trouble with errors in debian a while back
[09:28] <xfelon> is there a driver or something i need to install?
[09:29] <starscalling> but i was using the experimental at the time... wondered how the matchup was
[09:29] <eyequeue> starscalling:  i installed it ti get dvd-rw support, but it didn't work for that here somehow
[09:29] <starscalling> and is there anything for ripping // backing up dvd's?
[09:29] <kYotiK> when was the last xfce update?  i posted a bug on the bugzilla a few weeks ago.. xfce was working fine then my right click menu stopped working, even after a reboot... anyone else had this problem?
[09:29] <Razor-X> kYotiK: you hate window decorations and widgets?
[09:29] <kYotiK> no
[09:29] <starscalling> ah
[09:29] <Razor-X> kYotiK: oh, ok, meh
[09:29] <kYotiK> i mean i hate the Qt widgets in kde
[09:29] <lwells> i need to get to bed, if worse comes to worse, i will just reinstall Linux
[09:29] <Razor-X> kYotiK: oh, meh
[09:29] <crimsun> kYotiK: Xfce itself or xubuntu-meta?
[09:29] <eyequeue> starscalling:  could be me
[09:29] <LaserLine> Well, Sun's JAva works in Konqueror but not in Firefox... What can I do ?
[09:29] <Razor-X> I love QT widgets, in general
[09:30] <brentdax> Hmm, the bad part of saving the day with your iPod is that you can't listen to said iPod while said day is being saved.
[09:30] <brentdax> starscalling: Anything wrong with `dd if=/dev/cdrom of=blah`?
[09:30] <crimsun> Jani updated the seed in -meta shortly before release, but that wouldn't have affected xfdesktop4
[09:30] <kYotiK> crimsun it was XFCE4 i installed it from the repos, and i installed XFCE4 package
[09:30] <kYotiK> but i didnt know of this xubuntu stuff, but im sure it installed those too as deps
[09:30] <crimsun> xfce4 from breezy/universe, correct?
[09:30] <kYotiK> correct
[09:31] <crimsun> open a terminal, pkill xfdesktop, restart it, and secondary-click. What's the error?
[09:31] <StarKruzr> GNOME > KDE
[09:31] <kYotiK> well im not in xfce right now crimsun
[09:31] <Razor-X> crimsun: what happens if you have a few debian packages that are working fine, will they be superceded cleanly by their corresponding breezy packages?
[09:31] <xfelon> How do I see how much memory im using?
[09:31] <crimsun> Razor-X: there's no guarantee for packages from Debian
[09:31] <sampan> how much of a memory overhead does xfce save over kde?
[09:31] <bozeck> kytotik : the other app is whatever draws the windows on the bottom panel, that show what applications are on the current virt desktop.  Not sure how to describe it correctly....
[09:32] <Razor-X> crimsun: :(
[09:32] <starscalling> brentdax would be nice to be able to shrink my isos etc
[09:32] <kYotiK> Razor-X they will be reverted or upgraded..  they arent official ubuntu packages...
[09:32] <Razor-X> kYotiK: well, the hoary version of ratpoison was 2 years behind
[09:32] <kYotiK> sampan: it saves a lot
[09:32] <Razor-X> kYotiK: and since it uses very few (if any) dependancies, I said ``what the hell'' and used the Debian deb
[09:32] <LaserLine> Anyone ?
[09:32] <Razor-X> but, the breezy deb seems to be up to date
[09:32] <kYotiK> Razor-X: dont complain about that..  look at Redhats version of soundjuicer
[09:32] <kYotiK> heh
[09:32] <brentdax> StarKruzr: Channel with holy wars < Channel without holy wars
[09:33] <StarKruzr> I disagree!  :D
[09:33] <sampan> kyotik, hrmmmm ... i have xfce installed, but i got my kde looking so clean (just six icons on each side of the transparent taskbar and nothing on the desktop) so i never really gave it a shot
[09:33] <Razor-X> kYotiK: meh
[09:33] <crimsun> no, use -offtopic for wars
[09:33] <sampan> but always the temptation is to experiment :X
[09:33] <Razor-X> kYotiK: can I tell that package _not_ to dist-upgrade?
[09:33] <crimsun> you can hold it, pin it, etc.
[09:34] <Razor-X> crimsun: hmmm, i'll mess with aptitude
[09:34] <kYotiK> sampan: just give xfce a chance its really a good desktop, it has really low overhead, and it has a lot of good features built in...
[09:34] <ktogias> Hi again, After upgrading from hoary rebooting to breezy I find out that module tuner that I use for my bttv TVcard doesn't accept parameter 'type' : [4295361.480000]  tuner: Unknown parameter `type'
[09:34] <LaserLine> How can I link Sun's java to Firefox ??
[09:34] <kYotiK> ktogias: try depmod and modprobe the card again
[09:34] <crimsun> LaserLine: use java-package from multiverse.
[09:35] <kYotiK> ktogias: you may have changed to a diff version of the kernel which caused a problem with those previously compiled modules
[09:35] <xfelon> how do i change my screen resolution?
[09:35] <sampan> kyotik, might do so -- i think i tried it a once or twice, but i hate rebooting, so once i got kde settled, i just never went back to it -- maybe when i upgrade to breezy i'll give it a go for a longer spell :)
[09:35] <jolis> does ubuntu support radeon 9550 videocard ?
[09:35] <kYotiK> sampan u dont need to reboot to go into xfce
[09:35] <ktogias> root@media:~# depmod
[09:35] <ktogias> root@media:~# modprobe tuner type=5 pal=b
[09:35] <ktogias> FATAL: Error inserting tuner (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:35] <jolis> and does it have switcher for the ntsc/pal tvout
[09:35] <kYotiK> just log out after u install and log into xfce session
[09:35] <sampan> yeah, or log out
[09:35] <kYotiK> you can stay logged in too
[09:35] <ktogias> [4295677.787000]  tuner: Unknown parameter `type'
[09:35] <kYotiK> and ctrl alt f7
[09:36] <sampan> *nod*  yeah, i'm lazy :X
[09:36] <ktogias> Is there any way to handle it?
[09:36] <shale> what is a 3d game i can get via apt to test my 3d config?
[09:36] <kYotiK> sampan: i have grown that way myself
[09:36] <crimsun> ktogias: type is no longer a parameter to that kernel module
[09:36] <kYotiK> shale: you can get vegastrike
[09:36] <xfelon> lol i dont like this resolution
[09:36] <noodle> shale: tuxracer
[09:37] <shale> ok i'll try those, thanks
[09:37] <shale> are either of them fun? :)
[09:37] <kYotiK> tux is ok... vegastrike is pretty complicated and it uses a lot of resources, but it kicks ass
[09:37] <kYotiK> vegastrike is still in beta
[09:38] <shale> what about planetplenguin-racer ?
[09:38] <kYotiK> shale:  thats it
[09:38] <kYotiK> it got renamed
[09:39] <shale> thats which?
[09:39] <[nrx] > can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?
[09:39] <Razor-X> tuxracer got renamed?!
[09:39] <kYotiK> im pretty sure it did
[09:40] <aftertaf> anyone got the 2nd world levels for supertux?
[09:40] <Razor-X> *gasp*
[09:40] <ktogias> If I modprobe tuner without type parameter Tuner doesn'work and I get at dmesg: [4295928.045000]  tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
[09:40] <Razor-X> TuxRacer has been a UNIX staple for who knows _how_ long
[09:40] <Puffball> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/ <-- I've been following this guide to install a Ralink 2570 driver, but when I run 'make' in Breezy I get errors due to not having GCC 3.4, but GCC 4 and 3.3 are the only versions included
[09:41] <kYotiK> ktogias:  you need to set the tuner type.. and i really couldnt guide you through that, i never have messed with tv tuners on linux
[09:41] <Razor-X> no, it's still TuxRacer on the website
[09:41] <crimsun> Puffball: aptitude install build-essential gcc-3.4
[09:41] <crimsun> Puffball: also install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:41] <kYotiK> Razor-X: check the planet penguin thing
[09:41] <Juhaz> Puffball, it should compile just fine with gcc 3.3
[09:41] <ktogias> I used to do that via the type param, but now: [4295908.392000]  tuner: Unknown parameter `type'
[09:42] <crimsun> ktogias: type no longer exists as a parameter. Don't pass it to modprobe.
[09:42] <Puffball> Juhaz, would I have to uninstall GCC 4 to compile with 3.3?
[09:42] <kYotiK> Razor-X: it didnt get renamed its just a new version of it
[09:42] <LaserLine> crimsun I have that package, what to do with it ?
[09:42] <ktogias> crimsun, And how will I set the tuner type???
[09:42] <Razor-X> kYotiK: yeah, that's whath I got googling
[09:42] <kYotiK> PlanetPenguin Racer, or ppracer as it is called for short, is a simple OpenGL
[09:42] <kYotiK> racing game featuring Tux, the Linux mascot. The goal of the game is to slide
[09:42] <kYotiK> down a snow- and ice-covered mountain as quickly as possible, avoiding the
[09:42] <kYotiK> trees and rocks that will slow you down.
[09:42] <crimsun> Puffball: see what I typed
[09:42] <kYotiK> It is based on the GPL version of TuxRacer.
[09:42] <kYotiK> You should have working 3D acceleration or this game will run quite slow.
[09:42] <kYotiK> Homepage: http://projects.planetpenguin.de/racer/
[09:43] <Puffball> crimsun, I tried that, but it required connecting to one of Ubuntu's servers, and I'm trying to install a wifi card :/
[09:43] <kYotiK> hmm did that just go to the chan?
[09:43] <mark_> yes
[09:43] <kYotiK> cuz i meant to paste it to Razor-X
[09:43] <crimsun> ktogias: you don't
[09:43] <kYotiK> sorry ya all
[09:43] <Major_Stitch> Hi
[09:43] <Razor-X> kYotiK: I found the homepage, so, no worries
[09:43] <crimsun> Puffball: sneakernet via usb thumb drive
[09:43] <ktogias> crimsun, Then tuner doesn't work.
[09:43] <Puffball> crimsun: oh?
[09:43] <crimsun> ktogias: then google and modinfo tuner
[09:44] <kYotiK> brb everyone smoke break
[09:44] <starscalling> !tell starscalling about win32 codecs
[09:44] <crimsun> Puffball: oh...what?
[09:44] <ktogias> crimsun, I am doing that and I think I found something: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=151689
[09:44] <[nrx] > can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?
[09:44] <Puffball> crimsun: sneakernet? I don't have a USB drive.
[09:45] <LaserLine> crimsun I have that package, what should I do with it ?
[09:45] <Major_Stitch> Ummm...sorry, I have a question about ubuntu packages/programs: for 6 months there are no updates? Right? So have can I update Firefox 1.x.x to 1.x.y for example?
[09:45] <starscalling> hey
[09:45] <crimsun> Puffball: ok, how about a floppy or cd-r(w)?
[09:45] <starscalling> how much bw is pushed out by those servers on release weeks?
[09:45] <Puffball> crumsun, sure, but what does 'sneakernet' mean?
[09:45] <Da_SWAT> hi all, I'm having a small problem. I'm trying to upgrade to breezy, but my systems hangs @ 'preconfiguring packages'. It's a AMD64 3500+, and the status didn't change for the last 2 hours. Help!
[09:45] <aaron__> hey all, im a brand new linux user, and i need help configuring my sound card, and installing codecs can some one please help me??
[09:45] <crimsun> starscalling: us.releases was pushing 675 Mb/s yesterday.
[09:45] <starscalling> dam
[09:45] <starscalling> on a gbit?
[09:46] <starscalling> its so awesome that ubuntu is free XD
[09:46] <crimsun> Puffball: it means you walk it from one machine to another, hence "sneakers"
[09:46] <Major_Stitch> aaron: seacrh on http://wiki.ubuntu.com there should be how to install codecs and should be about setting the sound card
[09:46] <Razor-X> starscalling: free as in beer, or free as in libre?
[09:46] <aaron__> thank you
[09:46] <aaron__> ill try that right away
[09:47] <Juhaz> Puffball, try something like "make CC=gcc-3.3"
[09:47] <[nrx] > can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?
[09:47] <Major_Stitch> aaron: no problem, hope you'll find what you need
[09:47] <crimsun> Juhaz: no, the kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4
[09:47] <starscalling> free as in ive not pulled out my checkbook yet :P
[09:47] <Puffball> Ah, alright, thanks Juhaz, crumsun.
[09:47] <Juhaz> it was? urgh. what the hell is the sense of compiling the kernel with something that isn't included
[09:47] <starscalling> configuring it all right and finding everything is a bit of a bear
[09:47] <Major_Stitch> starscalling: lol
[09:47] <Jedrick> HOw to configure shorewall?
[09:47] <starscalling> but totally worth it
[09:47] <starscalling> XD
[09:47] <crimsun> Juhaz: because the kernel WON'T compile with gcc4
[09:47] <starscalling> though
[09:47] <crimsun> Juhaz: pretty simple.
[09:48] <tristanmike> night all
[09:48] <starscalling> ive yet to understand porting firewalls correctly
[09:48] <RippinEmDaily21> shut up
[09:48] <starscalling> on any front end
[09:48] <liable> Jedrick: you go to shorewall.org and read there excellant documentation.
[09:48] <ktogias> Just Fixed It! : Option type has been removed from tuner in 2.6.12. Instead I have to pass tuner={tuner type number} parameter to bttv module!!!!
[09:48] <xfelon> how do i see how much memory i am using?
[09:48] <Da_SWAT> I'm having a big problem. I'm trying to upgrade to breezy, but my systems hangs @ 'preconfiguring packages'. It's a AMD64 3500+, and the status didn't change for the last 2 hours. --> Anyone?
[09:48] <crimsun> ktogias: like I said... :-)
[09:48] <liable> xfelon: free, top.
[09:48] <Juhaz> crimsun, so then bundle the 3.4
[09:48] <RippinEmDaily21> u don't know
[09:48] <crimsun> Juhaz: it is available.
[09:48] <RippinEmDaily21> im gonna rip it real quick
[09:48] <xfelon> free top?
[09:48] <RippinEmDaily21> listen
[09:48] <Major_Stitch> sorry people but does anybody know how to update programs for the first months since there are no updates. For example how can I update Firefox 1.0.x to 1.0.x+1?
[09:48] <RippinEmDaily21> im spit so harmful
[09:49] <bozeck> kYotiK: Thanks, I figured out my issue.  It's mostly that I'm gnome-ignant
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> its like gases pollute ya lungs
[09:49] <Puffball> crimsun: this may or may not be a dumb question, but from windows, how could I get a hold of gcc-3.4 package for Ubuntu -- what source?
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> leaven ya stung
[09:49] <crimsun> RippinEmDaily21: this is a help channel. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> don't mess wit someone u don't know
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> shut up
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> aight
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> im playin
[09:49] <liable> bye bye
[09:49] <RippinEmDaily21> peace
[09:49] <Major_Stitch> Puffball: i think you can get it on the gcc web page..but not sure
[09:50] <Puffball> ah
[09:50] <crimsun> Puffball: packages.ubuntu.com/gcc-3.4
[09:50] <Puffball> ah, thanks
[09:50] <eyequeue> Puffball:  also the source code is always available on ubuntu mirrors, if that's what you need
[09:50] <crimsun> Puffball: make sure you get the Breezy one for your architecture
[09:50] <anthony> What's the command for configuring xorg hardware and etc. again? I rememberd it's something like "sudo xorg-config blah blah", anybody know?
[09:50] <Puffball> alright
[09:50] <LaserLine> crimsun What should I do with java-package ?
[09:50] <crimsun> LaserLine: create a deb from the Sun JRE/JDK that you downloaded.
[09:51] <eyequeue> anthony:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename :)
[09:51] <crimsun> LaserLine: the deb that you will create handles the symlinks.
[09:51] <eyequeue> anthony:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, in this case i think
[09:51] <anthony> eyequeue: Thank you.
[09:51] <eyequeue> np
[09:51] <[nrx] > can anyone offer me some help with getting a webcam to work?
[09:51] <Major_Stitch> how can I update a program (f.e.Firefox 1.05 to 1.06) in ubuntu by using synaptic beacuse there are no new versions for the 6 months?
[09:51] <crimsun> Juhaz: I presume you understand why gcc-3.4 can't be bundled by default on the CD?
[09:52] <crimsun> [nrx] : have you checked the forum and mailing list archives?
[09:52] <crimsun> [nrx] : and barring that, Google?
[09:52] <LaserLine> it didn't...
[09:52] <eyequeue> i can't believe how painfully slow the mirrors are now.  22k/s :(
[09:52] <Syruss> use the torrents
[09:52] <crimsun> eyequeue: surely one of the mirrors is faster.
[09:52] <[nrx] > im not getting terribly far with any avenue
[09:52] <Syruss> far far faster
[09:53] <kYotiK> hey crimsun u think if i reinstall xfce it might fix my probs? or do u think its just a bug? i know xfce4 is pretty new, do you think that problem will just reoccur?
[09:53] <eyequeue> crimsun:  yeah, i'm installing new apps, wasn't sure i wanted to change mirrors for that (and wondered if they were all so slow now anyway)
[09:53] <crimsun> LaserLine: it did for me. I tested IBM's JREs and JDKs, Sun's JREs and JDKs, and Blackdown's JDK.
[09:53] <Juhaz> crimsun, because unfortunately cd's tend to have a limited size, but no, I don't really understand why the kernel couldn't be compiled with 3.3, then, I'm assuming there are perfectly good reason for that, but that doesn't make it any less convenient :)
[09:53] <brentdax> Major_Stitch: I'm not sure, but I think what you're asking for is the Backports repository.  Google for "Ubuntu backports".
[09:53] <eyequeue> crimsun:  defecting to another continent for now though :)
[09:54] <Major_Stitch> brentdax: thank you
[09:54] <crimsun> Juhaz: 3.4 is better than 3.3 for the kernel. We couldn't bundle 3.4 by default because our userland is completely 4.0.
[09:54] <crimsun> Juhaz: C++ libraries compiled with 4.0 are not compatible with ones compiled with 3.4.
[09:54] <Major_Stitch> brentdax: but do you know can I just download FF new version from their site and then install it in ubuntu?
[09:56] <jas_> Can anyone help me set up Samba server I got it running I just don't really know what I am doing with it..
[09:56] <joker667> hi, I am missing the documentation on ubuntu.com. I am I too dumb to find it, or did it disappear?
[09:56] <brentdax> You can, but the next time Ubuntu releases a Firefox bugfix it might clobber the version you have installed.  Stick to the prepared packages if you can.
[09:56] <NoWhereMan> I can't find out what's the kernel version in latest ubuntu
[09:56] <zcat[1] > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[09:56] <zcat[1] > But it's there in dmesg and lsmod :(
[09:56] <esc_ape> hello. I am trying to use the command "make deb" in the terminal, but it says that is not a known command. any ideas?
[09:56] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  2.6.12-9, iirc
[09:57] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  uname -r
[09:57] <jas_> joker667 : http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/helpcenter_view
[09:57] <kYotiK> crimsun:  this xubuntu-desktop is xfce4???  cuz i dont see that anywhere in its package description.. i dont really understand what xubuntu-desktop is..
[09:57] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue, thanx, still preparing to install
[09:57] <Major_Stitch> brentdax: so it would be wise to use programs from their repositories and install those that aren't there myself and update form their repositores?
[09:57] <jas_> joker667: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/helpcenter_view
[09:57] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  uname -r is for later then, heh
[09:57] <jas_> Can anyone help me set up Samba server I got it running I just don't really know what I am doing with it..
[09:57] <crimsun> kYotiK: xubuntu is a metapackage that depends on xfce4. It's the beginnings of a seed that we'll use for a Xubuntu 6.04
[09:58] <kYotiK> hmm
[09:58] <crimsun> xubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, rather.
[09:58] <zcat[1] > anyone?
[09:58] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  2.6.12 with security patches backported, basically
[09:58] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: how do i get usplash to work? i installed it, but i don't see any splash screen
[09:58] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue I know; i asked because I need the sources to install the adsl modem driver (cxacru); no kernel sources on the cd,right
[09:58] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:58] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: then reboot
[09:58] <kYotiK> so its just a new fork of ubuntu that utilizes xfce instead of gnome / kde ?? much like kubuntu is to ubuntu?
[09:59] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  correct.  sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 though will fetch the tarball, if you don't get it manually
[09:59] <brentdax> It's wise to use the official repositories plus backports if you need them, and it's usually okay to manually install programs that aren't in either of them.
[09:59] <crimsun> kYotiK: it's not a fork, just like Kubuntu and Edubuntu are not forks. They're sister projects.
[09:59] <sally_> can someone with breezy look at  espn.com front page and tell me if the line that says "Page 2" under the picture of the Houston guy in front is cut off halfway
[09:59] <eyequeue> crimsun:  is xubuntu-desktop ready for me to be recommending it yet?  or should i be waiting until dapper days?
[10:00] <crimsun> eyequeue: yes, it's quite ready.
[10:00] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue d'oh, that's bad :P I can't download the source if I don't have the modem installed, and I cn't get to install the modem without sources
[10:00] <zcat[1] > why is the gnome version not called gubuntu ?
[10:00] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  ouch
[10:00] <brentdax> esc_ape: What are you expecting `make deb` to do?
[10:00] <joker667> jas_, but I am missing the original doku, with the restricted formats page and so on.
[10:00] <crimsun> zcat[1] : because it's the original.
[10:00] <Juhaz> crimsun, makes sense, c++ is a bitch. but why include 3.3, then? it's just as incompatible with the rest of userland
[10:00] <saik0> Why would a samba server let me broswe it when i logon with a given username and not login to the domain with the login?
[10:00] <eyequeue> zcat[1] :  "ubuntu" came first, the others are later variants, so they had to tweak the names :)
[10:00] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue do you know of cxacru (conexant) in ubuntu? (don't think so...)
[10:00] <zcat[1] > why are my nvidia drivers not working?
[10:01] <crimsun> zcat[1] : did you follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[10:01] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  that's a winmodem driver?  i don't know of it, but i also would not be in tune with such things either, sorry
[10:01] <crimsun> Juhaz: backward compatibility with Warty and Hoary.
[10:01] <zcat[1] > I'll take a look
[10:01] <anthony> Crap... I installed xorg-driver-fglrx package and updated my xorg.conf file at the Driver section, changed it from ati to fglrx, now I try to revert the driver back to ati it doesn't work anymore...
[10:01] <crimsun> Juhaz: 18 months, remember?
[10:01] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue it's a usb adsl modem ehehe. I was able to make it work in mandriva 2005 :)
[10:01] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  adsl here before i got to ubuntu at all :/
[10:02] <anthony> Whenever I try to boot back into X my screen just went blank, tried dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg but no go.
[10:02] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: i have another strange problem. when i reboot, the laptop shuts down and tries to reboot, but never succeeds ... i don't see anything in the screen. it's blank
[10:02] <Juhaz> right. okay, I stand enlightened
[10:02] <esc_ape> brentdax: I am trying to install ndiswrapper following the howto found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28SetupNdiswrapperHowto%29
[10:02] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  ah, mine is a simple ethernet-nic style adsl (fortunately)
[10:02] <jas_> Can anyone help me set up Samba server I got it running I just don't really know what I am doing with it..
[10:03] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: as in System> Logout> Reboot?
[10:03] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: that one, and just sudo reboot. both
[10:03] <saik0> could someone take a look at my smb.conf file and tell me why the comain controller is'nt working?
[10:03] <budluva_> i know this might not be the best place to ask but im trying to run Railroad Tycoon 2 in breezy and it installs fine and when i go to run the game i get this error...Couldn't initialize SDL: Couldn't open X11 display
[10:03] <budluva_> ......what is SDL?
[10:03] <NoWhereMan> eyrqueue: I see. So, if I want to dowload _now_ the sources so that I have them for later, do I have just to download 2.6.12 ? no mods? from where? kernel.org?
[10:04] <brentdax> esc_ape: Do you have build_essentials installed?  What's the exact error you're getting?
[10:04] <brentdax> (Excuse me, build-essential.)
[10:04] <eyequeue> lol, nl.archive is slower than us.archive heh
[10:04] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: interesting, I think it might be related to the POST_VIDEO option in /etc/default/acpi-support, but you'll want to check with mjg59, our ACPI guru.
[10:04] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: any ideas?
[10:04] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: okay. thanks
[10:04] <Major_Stitch> brentdax: Thank you very much for your help!! You helped a lot!
[10:05] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  yes, kernel.org or one of its many mirrors should have it ... burn the tarball to a cd i guess?
[10:05] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: when will he come online?
[10:05] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: then again, that's a _resume_ option and not a reboot one.
[10:05] <brentdax> Major_Stitch: np.
[10:05] <Major_Stitch> Oh and btw, Ubuntu ROCKS!!! I've used a few distros before and Ubuntu is by far the best!
[10:05] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: hmm
[10:05] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: No, I'll just move it on the ntfs partition, that would do
[10:05] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: he's online but probably still recovering. This last week has been hectic.
[10:06] <dazvid> budluva_: SLD = Simple Direct Media Layer
[10:06] <brentdax> Definitely.  First distro I've used that was good at looking out for itself and staying out of my way.
[10:06] <James686> ok...I installed version 5.10...and I STILL get a display error message thing with my Nvidia Geforce FX 5500 graphics card...
[10:06] <MaTaKs> help pls a newbie here... how to configure shorewall?..  i dont know whats the command to configure shorewall
[10:06] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  as long as you can read it later, sure
[10:06] <sally_> anyone who has some crap looking fonts and font sizes in firefox give this a try: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ... who knows why it's not done by default
[10:06] <Razor-X> DavidLeeRoth: SDL
[10:06] <Razor-X> errr
[10:06] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: ok, thanx :)
[10:06] <Razor-X> dazvid: SDL
[10:07] <Razor-X> meh
[10:07] <James686> well?
[10:07] <Razor-X> 1 AM makes your brain fuzzy
[10:07] <dazvid> lol sorry =p
[10:07] <dazvid> I need food
[10:07] <brentdax> sally_: It's because those fonts are non-free--restrictive licensing on Microsoft's part.
[10:07] <MaTaKs> help pls a newbie here... how to configure shorewall?..  i dont know whats the command to configure shorewall
[10:07] <brentdax> Same reason Ubuntu doesn't have MP3 support out of the box.
[10:08] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  it's too late for breezy of course, but consider filing a bug requesting support for that driver in dapper's install disks, eventually
[10:08] <dooglus> who recommended helix-player?  I tried it on a BBC News video and it told me to install RealPlayer!
[10:08] <sekundek> hi! I just install pgadmin but I can't find it anywhere
[10:08] <zcat[1] > try mplayer + w32codecs
[10:08] <zcat[1] > realplayer blows!
[10:09] <sekundek> maybe someone know where is installed by defautl
[10:09] <crimsun> dooglus: helix-player does not contain support for the proprietary realmedia codecs
[10:09] <dooglus> zcat[1] : can you play http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40545000/nb/40545855_nb_16x9.ram using mplayer?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > yes
[10:09] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[10:09] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:09] <zcat[1] > (I assume so; I've played other bbc streams with it)
[10:09] <sitle> hey
[10:09] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: well, it's not a bug, actually, more a "not implemented feature" :) but, sorry, what's this dapper's thingie?
[10:09] <dooglus> zcat[1] : so have I.  could you try that one?
[10:09] <brentdax> "ubotu"?  Cute.
[10:09] <dooglus> zcat[1] : it doesn't work for me.
[10:10] <eyequeue> dooglus:  just checked, firefox automatically used the mplayer-plugin for that url :)
[10:10] <Razor-X> I couldn't play it dooglus
[10:10] <jas_> I am trying to get my Lexmark P3150 printer to work can anyone help with this?
[10:10] <saik0> Anyone here tried gstreamer + pitfdll + w32 codecs on breezy and have everything work?
[10:10] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  you're aware breezy was just released today?  dapper is next april's equivalent new version
[10:10] <dooglus> eyequeue: wow.
[10:10] <zcat[1] > Server returned 404: Not Found
[10:10] <dooglus> eyequeue: using the w32codecs from http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/btdownload.php?type=torrent&file=w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb.torrent&PHPSESSID=a5442837d93d43956a40ef36baa7879c ?
[10:11] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: on my hd I do already have linux-2.6.12.6.tar.bz2 is that ok?
[10:11] <zcat[1] > Kinda suggests you'd have trouble playing it in anything :)
[10:11] <Razor-X> yeah, same trouble here :P
[10:11] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: i knew I downloaded it yesterday lol :)
[10:11] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  yeah, unpack that tarball and you'll have the complete kernel source tree
[10:12] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: than I'm ok to get started :)
[10:12] <jas_> I am trying to get my Lexmark P3150 printer to work can anyone help with this?
[10:12] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: thanx again bye
[10:12] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  i'm not sure on the .6 part, what version is current, but if you grabbed it yesterday, that should be adequate, heh
[10:12] <eyequeue> bye
[10:13] <zcat[1] > Yesterday?!! If it's more than 6 hours old it's obsolete!!
[10:13] <NoWhereMan> eyeque: hmmm... not rally I downloaded it a while ago, when I was still working with mandriva
[10:13] <sekundek> anyone know why my usb thumb drive can't be accessed. I get error  "The file or folder media:/sda does not exist."
[10:13] <da_bon_bon> NoWhereMan: trying to compile a kernel on ubuntu ?
[10:13] <NoWhereMan> jas_ did you try this: http://www.linuxprinting.org/foomatic.html I made work my lexmark z33
[10:13] <eyequeue> da_bon_bon:  he'll need to to get his adsl modem support :/
[10:13] <cjhcjhcjh> Razor-X,  I mailed u
[10:14] <NoWhereMan> da_bon_bon yeahm that's it
[10:14] <eyequeue> da_bon_bon:  meaning, before he can apt-get much
[10:14] <cjhcjhcjh> I have desktop, woot yay me!
[10:14] <da_bon_bon> compiling a kernel on ubuntu is not that easy :(
[10:14] <brentdax> zcat[1] : That's a great impression of a ricer-y Gentoo user.  (Not that all Gentoo users are ricers, but there are a few...)
[10:14] <Jedrick> how to configure shorewall? anyone please help
[10:14] <da_bon_bon> if you want to create a kernel package, that is
[10:14] <bigfoot1> During my hoary days, I had opera installed. But after upgrading to breezy, opera (shortcut) doesn't work. Many other programs don't work. WHat's up?
[10:14] <zcat[1] > gotta love gentoo users :)
[10:14] <NoWhereMan> da_bon_bon if all goes as it should I shouldn't compile the kernel at all
[10:15] <da_bon_bon> why, NoWhereMan ?
[10:15] <da_bon_bon> just want the module ?
[10:15] <NoWhereMan> da_bon_bon it takes the kernel source just to configure
[10:15] <NoWhereMan> and then compile
[10:15] <NoWhereMan> the module
[10:15] <brentdax> Indeed.  (I have a Gentoo server, but that's so I can build everything with stack guards and such.  Gentoo is way too much work for a desktop.)
[10:15] <da_bon_bon> ohok
[10:15] <bigfoot1> how come some stuff i have  in my drawer, such as "home directory" don't have icons anymore?
[10:16] <da_bon_bon> is it possible to change usplash's theme ?
[10:16] <NoWhereMan> btw, i see linux-2.6.12.6.tar.bz2  is the latest, so it's ok :)
[10:16] <zcat[1] > brb; doing the binary driver thing
[10:16] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: if you mean the image, yes.
[10:17] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: there are certain requirements.
[10:17] <budluva_> anyone know how to temporarily hide the panel? im trying to play a game in fullscreen and the panel still shows
[10:17] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: great! can you point me to a howto ? or some guide ?
[10:17] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: what limitations ?
[10:18] <cjhcjhcjh> reccomendations please for an x ftp client
[10:18] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: read /usr/share/doc/usplash/{README.usplash,changelog.Debian.gz}
[10:19] <da_bon_bon> thanks, crimsun :)
[10:19] <dazvid> is it better to do a fresh install of breezy or just upgrade?
[10:19] <Dano> is it only for me or is ubuntu slower than win XP? (in the GUI)
[10:19] <brentdax> cjh: Nautilus not doing it for you?
[10:19] <crimsun> dazvid: either
[10:19] <da_bon_bon> dazvid: i did an upgrade. no problems for me.
[10:19] <Major_Stitch> bye,bye! Thanks for everything people
[10:19] <cafuego_> dazvid: Upgrade is far quicker :-)
[10:20] <da_bon_bon> dazvid: upgrade. you will save a lot of trouble, getting back the codecs and mplayer :D
[10:20] <cafuego_> dazvid: (and thus better, coz you get to play sooner)
[10:20] <dazvid> yeh true..
[10:20] <dooglus> budluva_: right-click the panel, 'preferences', 'auto hide'
[10:20] <dazvid> I think my CD drive is buggered though
[10:20] <cjhcjhcjh> brentdax, do I have that? where?
[10:20] <dazvid> Is there a way I can mount it on an imaginary drive?
[10:20] <cafuego_> dazvid: Just edit sources.list and do it online
[10:20] <brentdax> cafuego_: The speed the servers are at, grabbing an ISO off BitTorrent and installing it might be easier.
[10:20] <dazvid> no thanks, I already downloaded the ISO
[10:20] <dazvid> :P
[10:21] <cafuego_> brentdax: Poor bugger, my isp mirrors the lot locally :-)
[10:21] <dooglus> they should invent a p2p way of updating too.
[10:21] <dooglus> that should be well do-able, right?
[10:21] <cafuego_> dazvid: sudo mount -o loop,ro breezy-install-386.iso /mnt
[10:21] <Dano> how do i get my laptop to run on full speed ? i want no throttling..
[10:21] <NoWhereMan> PLEASE someone could try modprobe cxacru ? just to let me know if maybe it already exist in 5.10
[10:21] <dazvid> aaaaah excellent! thanks cafuego
[10:21] <dazvid> I go try that out
[10:21] <cafuego_> dooglus: Yes, install the patched libc6 from my local repository!
[10:22] <brentdax> cjh: It's the program that does file windows, like if you open your home directory.  Use the "view" menu to turn on the location bar and type in the address, including ftp://
[10:22] <dooglus> cafuego_: why?
[10:22] <cafuego_> Dano: disable powernowd
[10:22] <cafuego_> dooglus: That's the issue with p2p repositories.
[10:22] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  FATAL: Module cxacru not found.
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> d'oh
[10:22] <dooglus> cafuego_: what do you mean?  you mean you could hax0r my box?
[10:22] <guillem> where can I find post-upgrade instructions? (from hoary to breezy)
[10:23] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue, btw thanx :)
[10:23] <eyequeue> NoWhereMan:  couldn't hurt to check :)  breezy here btw
[10:23] <bjron> is there any way to mount an iso and make ubuntu think it's actually a CD?
[10:23] <cafuego_> dooglus: What's to stop me from subverting any of the archives my node is hosting?
[10:23] <brentdax> cafuego: So you use lots of hashes, like BitTorrent.  This isn't really that difficult.
[10:23] <ompaul> I am looking for a tool that splits a console window in two vertically
[10:23] <cafuego_> brentdax: Except md5 is no longer secure...
[10:23] <dooglus> cafuego_: I still get Release.gpg from the official repos.
[10:23] <ompaul> or horizantally
[10:23] <dooglus> cafuego_: then if you modify anything, it won't install
[10:23] <NoWhereMan> eyequeue: what if I copy the module from the mandriva i'm using?
[10:23] <ompaul> or horizontally
[10:23] <Dano> Cafuego: thanks!
[10:23] <lukas> having problems booting ubuntu when win xp is installed - can anyone help?
[10:24] <ompaul> !tell lukas about grub
[10:24] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: the usplash theme sucks ... any way to change it?
[10:24] <cafuego_> lukas: Help removing XP or help booting WITH xp? ;-)
[10:24] <crimsun> argh
[10:24] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: Not trivially.
[10:24] <ompaul> lukas, the bot has send you a message it may help
[10:24] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: hmm
[10:24] <bjron> I downloaded the 5.10 iso, but my burner has died on me, so I'd like to mount the iso and add it to my sources list so I can upgrade
[10:24] <crimsun> see what I just told da_bon_bon
[10:24] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: There is compiling a shared lib involvement, I believe.
[10:24] <guillem> Sorry! now I see the topic :-P
[10:25] <brentdax> cafuego_: Okay, use SHA1 or SHA256 or TIGER if you want.
[10:25] <lukas> problem is i don't get any choise at startup - the computer just runs win without asking...
[10:25] <Dano> cafuego: I dont see why i should use cpu throttlse if i use laptop on power. do you?
[10:25] <ompaul> bjron, you can upgrade using >> sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <<
[10:25] <da_bon_bon> GNULinuxer: read /usr/share/doc/usplash/{README.usplash,changelog.Debian.gz}
[10:25] <cafuego_> brentdax: I don't want at all! I just want my isp's mirror ;-)
[10:25] <j_> how to upgrade to breeze without downloading ISO?
[10:25] <GNULinuxer> da_bon_bon: thanks
[10:25] <zcat[1] > OK, I'm getting annoyed now.. xorg says my card is supported by nvidia-legacy drivers. I've already installed the nvidia-legacy package. I'm modprobing the driver. It's showing up in dmesg and lsmod, but when I try to start xorg with 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' it won't go.
[10:26] <cafuego_> j_: sudo perl -e "s/hoary/breezy/" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:26] <da_bon_bon> GNULinuxer: thank crimsun :)
[10:26] <crimsun> zcat[1] : paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:26] <bjron> ompaul, yea, I know, but I think I'd cause less strain on the repo servers this way; I suspect they are quite busy at the moment, so I grabed the iso w/ a torrent
[10:26] <dooglus> cafuego_: someone called sanxiyn was telling me about it yesterday...  Release.gpg is the signature for Release, which has the md5sums for Packages, which have the md5sums for individual packages - so unless you can sign packages using the ubuntu key, you can't get a tainted package installed.
[10:26] <j_> thanx
[10:26] <ompaul> j_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:27] <Aravi> Hmm, when I try to install kernel-headers, it tells me it can't get the kbuild packages
[10:27] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: what to do with the reboot issue?
[10:27] <cafuego_> dooglus: Well, when not using md5 but something more secure (like brentdax suggests) it would work.
[10:27] <ompaul> bjron, there is one marked rest of europe and they go for records, like most days they move more than kernel.org :)
[10:27] <ompaul> bjron, in .ie heanet
[10:27] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: does a cold boot work instead of a warm boot?
[10:27] <guillem> wow, the upgrade was so successful that I didn't have any of the possible issues stated at BreezyUpgradeNotes :-))
[10:27] <dooglus> cafuego_: if you don't trust md5 then you're already vulnerable - the mirror you use could have been attacked
[10:27] <NoWhereMan> bye
[10:27] <Dano> any player that can play .wmv files under ubun?t
[10:28] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: cold boot as in ctrl+alt+del?
[10:28] <lukas> problem is not about booting windows - I can't boot ubuntu
[10:28] <ompaul> !tell Dano about restricted
[10:28] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: no, that's warm. Cold is power-cycle.
[10:28] <asdx> does breezy comes with initng?
[10:28] <crimsun> asdx: no.
[10:28] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: yes, that's what I do ... i do a hard reboot
[10:28] <Jedrick> How to configure shorewall?..
[10:28] <guillem> Dano, mplayer is the one
[10:28] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: and there is no fsck ...
[10:28] <juuva> I get "this connection was refused when trying to connect wiki.ubuntu.com", does wiki work?
[10:28] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: if you warm-boot, do you see console text at all?
[10:29] <asdx> what will be the next codename of ubuntu? :P
[10:29] <crimsun> dapper
[10:29] <guillem> Jedrick, firestarter is very easy to configure (GUI).... shorewall is more advanced, I know.
[10:29] <vegiVamp> does someone know how I tell kubuntu/breezy not to start kscd or konqi when I insert a cd ?
[10:29] <asdx> crimsun: dapper?
[10:29] <bjron> ompaul, well, also I'm sort of curious if it can be done this way. . ;D
[10:29] <crimsun> vegiVamp: configure it in KDE's control center
[10:29] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: when i switch off the powerswitch and switch it on again, everything is normal
[10:29] <ompaul> asdx, dapper drake
[10:29] <Jedrick> guillem:  where can i get firestarter?
[10:29] <vegiVamp> crimsun: I thought as much, but where :-)
[10:29] <asdx> ompaul: ok
[10:29] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: right, but do you see console text at all
[10:29] <sampan> jedrick  i second guillem's suggestion -- firestarter is dead easy to use and even setting up exceptions is easy with its on-the-fly policy changes
[10:29] <budluva> help me :P x borked on me, so i tried to reset it via ctrl-alt-backspace then it kicked me back to dmesg? stating checking battery.....ok and it sits there and sits there, so i try to switch to another console ctrl-alt-f1 and type startx but i get an XgetActiveScreen from module unresolved, so how can i kill that borked x session?
[10:29] <asdx> ompaul: that one will feature initng?
[10:29] <crimsun> vegiVamp: #kubuntu's better...
[10:29] <vegiVamp> crimsun: file associations/audio cd only lists konqi
[10:30] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: yes, i do ...
[10:30] <vegiVamp> ah, didn't know that existed :-)
[10:30] <crimsun> GNULinuxer: ah, so it's only the X.org driver?
[10:30] <ompaul> asdx, you assume I would know that, I have no idea :)
[10:30] <brentdax> Who picks the codenames?
[10:30] <Jedrick> sampan: where can i get firestarter?
[10:30] <Dano> guillem: mplayer not in repository?
[10:30] <asdx> ompaul: ok :)
[10:30] <crimsun> Dano: multiverse
[10:30] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: i don't think so ... it's not a display issue ... i think the reboot process halts somewhere very early
[10:31] <sampan> jedrick, you should be able to get firestarter in synaptic ... or you can just use CLI: apt-get install firestarter (assuming you have your sources file set right) ... their website has a good tutorial
[10:31] <Dano> crimson: ok.. is it recomended to run multiverse?
[10:31] <ompaul> brentdax, some guy called Mark Shuttleworth, he has the canonical view on this :)
[10:31] <crimsun> Dano: that's up to you. multiverse contains packages with restrictive licenses.
[10:31] <brentdax> Ah, it's Shuttleworth.
[10:31] <Dano> crimsun: ok.. will test that.
[10:31] <Jedrick> ok thnx.. can you help me when i get stuck?.. im a newbie and not familiar to linux :)
[10:32] <budluva> can anyone help with my borked x session?
[10:32] <zcat[1] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3061
[10:32] <sampan> can try -- lots of people here to help ... www.fs-security.com  <-- firestarter website -- the default settings work good for me
[10:32] <Dano> crimsun: enable backports to, or just add multiverse?
[10:33] <da_bon_bon> Dano: restrictive licence and all .. but it contains cool and requerid stuff like flash and mplayer .. so enable it.
[10:34] <crimsun> zcat[1] : you don't seem to have configured the legacy drivers correctly, and both dri and drm are still being loaded via /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <asdx> cool i like the new ubuntu bg =)
[10:35] <zcat[1] > drm?
[10:35] <Dano> does multiverse have security updates?
[10:36] <Jedrick> sampan:  dude i already installed the firestarter using apt-get whats next?
[10:36] <da_bon_bon> Dano: mostly, yes.
[10:36] <budluva> Jedrick run it
[10:36] <karjala> Why is "ubuntu for servers" more appropriate for servers than the plain "ubuntu"? I can't find any information about that on the website
[10:36] <sampan> jedrick, you should run it and go through the wizard to configure it -- it's very easy to set up
[10:36] <Jedrick> ammm..  i dunno how to run it :p
[10:36] <aftertaf> karjala:  no X, minimum install. you pick and choose in cli.
[10:37] <sampan> Jedrick, open a terminal window and type: sudo firestarter ... then give your password
[10:37] <budluva> Jedrick check Appliactions > System Tools > Firestarter
[10:37] <brentdax> Okay, I've got an apparently good CD.  If I point Synaptic at it, will it replace the bad packages?  Will it have to re-download the good ones from the Internet?
[10:37] <Jedrick> ok
[10:37] <lukas> installed win xp and ubuntu on different drives and now ubuntu doesn't boot - what shall I do...
[10:38] <Jedrick> ok thnx guys im now in graphical mode :) wooott
[10:38] <Aravi> GPG Error: http://au.archive.com breezy-updates : The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:38] <karjala> aftertaf: thanks...
[10:38] <cjhcjhcjh> ftp seems very slow...I am copying all files from a website to my desktop and it is taking 45 mins; it took about 2 mins on windoze...a speed test reports that I am connected at 993kbps...any thoughts?
[10:38] <aftertaf> kar :)
[10:38] <jas_> crimsun: Hey do you know anything about Samba Server?
[10:38] <abhayks> lucaas, did u install winXP afte ubuntu ?
[10:39] <jhank> yeah, what's really the difference to ubuntu server?
[10:39] <sampan> lukas, this might be easy, but do you have your bios set to boot from the winxp drive?  if they're on separate drives and xp is on the one your bios looks to first, you won't ever get the option to boot to ubuntu
[10:40] <crimsun> jas_: I generally follow the documentation.
[10:40] <jas_> cafuego_: Hey do you know anything about Samba Server?
[10:41] <jas_> crimsun: Yeah I tried that it didn't go so well..
[10:41] <kemik> jhank:  samba is for filesharing and printersharing on windows networks
[10:41] <kemik> (and can be used with linux-only networks aswell, of course)
[10:42] <Jedrick> sampan: ok now im done setting the firewall.. what if i want to stop the firewall, what would be the command in terminal?
[10:42] <lukas> but if I set the ubuntu drive as boot i bios - the computer says: can't find operating system
[10:43] <kemik> Jedrick:  iptables -F  ithink
[10:43] <kemik> man iptables
[10:43] <sampan> jedrick, you could kill the process ... but if it's in your icon tray, just click the icon and then when the window pops up, hit the "stop" button :D
[10:43] <jhank> kemik i know... but what does the server installation procedure?
[10:44] <kemik> jhank:  sorry, i dont understand you question
[10:44] <Jedrick> dam it's not on my icon tray
[10:44] <kemik> Jedrick:  iptables -F will flush all rules (ie: no firewall)
[10:44] <sampan> kemik, he's using firestarter
[10:44] <Jedrick> ok
[10:44] <jhank> kemik i can choose before the installation cd boots between just ENTER and server installation... what's happening in server installation?
[10:44] <Jedrick> im using firestarter
[10:44] <kemik> firestarter is just a frontend to iptables afaik
[10:45] <kemik> but maybe it resets the rules if it detects them being flushed?
[10:45] <sampan> not sure -- but if it's still running it might just reset them -- not sure :X
[10:45] <Jedrick> ey dude i can see it on my tray now.. :)
[10:45] <kemik> jhank:  serverinstall wont install X / Gnome etc
[10:46] <jhank> ah i see... so just a base system.... and does it install any server-related features?
[10:46] <sampan> jedrick, cool :)
[10:47] <kemik> jhank:  dont think so.. think you'll have to aptget the particular daemons... but im not 100...
[10:47] <Dano> is breezy-backports down?
[10:48] <jhank> thanks kemik
[10:48] <synd> checking for gaim >= 1.0.0... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[10:49] <synd> configure: error: Library requirements (gaim >= 1.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[10:49] <synd> Getting that error.
[10:49] <drew> I want to change the default OS in grub, but how do I edit menu.lst?  I can only open it read only
[10:49] <synd> When trying to ./configure a Gaim XMMS plugin
[10:49] <synd> Any help?
[10:49] <Jedrick> sampan:  thnx dude... now i have now my firewall... muwahahahhah :D
[10:50] <sampan> jedrick, you're welcome :)  i'm a newb myself, so easy-to-use tools are my favorite :D
[10:50] <Nomad_X> I am looking for a good FTP server that can have many accounts with various file permissions.  Any ideas guys?
[10:50] <Dano> proftpd
[10:50] <Dano> or pureftpd
[10:51] <ompaul> I am looking for a tool that splits a console window in two vertically or horizontally
[10:51] <Nomad_X> why not vsftp?
[10:51] <Dano> ompaul:screen
[10:51] <selinium_> morining ompaul :)
[10:51] <Dano> Nomad_X: that might work.. i have never test it :)
[10:51] <selinium_> Mornig*
[10:52] <ccooke> ompaul: screen will do it vertically. Horizontally is... *very* difficult.
[10:52] <Belutz> drew, open it using sudo
[10:52] <selinium_> Morning**
[10:52] <selinium_> :)
[10:52] <ccooke> ompaul: and would quite likely be very slow.
[10:52] <dooglus> I installed the w32codes, but still can't play BBC News videos.  I see an error from mplayer: "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll".  Any idea what's wrong?
[10:52] <Nomad_X> so you have good experiences with the other two though?
[10:52] <brentdax> It might work this time!  (Famous last words...)
[10:52] <dooglus> ompaul: Emacs can split the screen horizontally or vertically (or both)
[10:52] <ccooke> screen also allows you to run any number of virtual terminals in one window.
[10:52] <Nomad_X> my buddy at Rack Space recomends nothing but VSFTP are there any cons??
[10:53] <drew> belutz, thanks, works a treat
[10:53] <ompaul> thanks ccooke dano dooglus
[10:53] <ompaul> mornin selinium
[10:53] <Tewe> aloha!~!!!!
[10:54] <Tewe> what are you?
[10:54] <Tewe> i don't know your language
[10:55] <selinium_> dooglus, Aren't the bbc files realmedia files? .rm types?
[10:55] <dooglus> selinium_: they are,yes.
[10:55] <Dano> "mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable" when i try to install mplayer..
[10:55] <selinium_> dooglus, install realplayer :)
[10:56] <dooglus> selinium_: I'd rather not.  And some people here have got mplayer playing the BBC real media.
[10:56] <dooglus> http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40545000/nb/40545855_nb_16x9.ram is an example that I can't play
[10:56] <Ng> Dano: try installing mplayer-586 from multiverse
[10:56] <Seveas> dooglus, or realmedia you need w32codecs
[10:57] <Dano> Ng: not mplayer-686?
[10:57] <dooglus> Seveas: I just installed w32codecs.
[10:57] <Ng> Dano: no, that's just a dummy package
[10:57] <El_Che> dooglus: install realplayer for linux?
[10:57] <Seveas> Dann0, -586 and -686 actually are the same :)
[10:57] <Dano> Ng: ok
[10:57] <dooglus> El_Che: I prefer mplayer.
[10:57] <Dano> :)
[10:57] <James686> so...why do I get a Fatal Error: No Screens Available blue screem error message thing?
[10:57] <otep> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3064  <--- can anyone help me regarding this?
[10:57] <Dano> Ng: that seems to work. thanks
[10:58] <Ng> otep: there is no breezy-backports yet, you can disable that source for now
[10:58] <dooglus> eyequeue: do you have avisynth.dll somewhere?  "locate avisynth"?
[10:58] <James686> ??
[10:58] <dooglus> (it was eyequeue who could play that BBC news footage in mplayer)
[10:59] <mirko87> hi
[10:59] <otep> Ng: thanks
[10:59] <Dano> Ng: no gui for mplayer?
[10:59] <dooglus> otep: that's interesting.  I had the same problem recently.  what do you see if you "ls /var/lib/apt/lists"?
[11:00] <Ng> Dano: mplayer should also install gmplayer, which is graphical
[11:00] <otep> dooglus: actually, its not my "problem". am still on hoary. a friend just asked me =)
[11:00] <dooglus> oh, backports, I see.
[11:01] <sorush20> guys I can't format my floppy in KDE I keep getting can not access /dev/fd0u1440
[11:01] <Dano> Ng: Thanks again :)
[11:01] <sorush20> and also my hotplug system isn't working
[11:01] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[11:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[11:02] <mirko87> Sorry, i have a problem in the terminal i use the command "su" but no function... how i can go to root with gnome... ?
[11:02] <dooglus> is there any more information available on the w32codecs?  like how to get them to work with real media?
[11:02] <dooglus> !tell mirko87 about root
[11:02] <El_Che> mirko87: root is disable, use sudo followed by the command
[11:02] <Renski> !tell Renski about root
[11:02] <sorush20> now I get the error unexpected density number 0 when I try to format a floppy
[11:03] <El_Che> mirko87: if you really want to enable the root account, type passwd root
[11:03] <dooglus> El_Che: you mean "sudo passwd" I think
[11:03] <Renski> sudo passwd root
[11:05] <mirko87> ooo really tanks (sorry for speaking me ita)
[11:05] <ompaul> mirko87, the way to do it is "sudo command" if you want to stick with the ubuntu paradigm, which works rather well tbh
[11:06] <moogman> Hey. I just realised that Ubuntu 5.10 has installed my DVB TV card, yay. What is the best program to view channels with?
[11:06] <Illuv_> When you upgrade to breezy, it should upgrade openoffice from 1.1 to 2.0, no?
[11:06] <zcat[1] > "sudo su -" works quite nicely :)
[11:06] <moogman> Illuv_: Yes :)
[11:06] <Illuv_> hmm
[11:06] <moogman> sudo -s works better
[11:06] <Illuv_> I still run 1.1 :S
[11:07] <karjala> Can I upgrade Debian stable to Ubuntu just by changing the apt/sources.list file?
[11:07] <moogman> Illuv_: They are different packages
[11:07] <Illuv_> ah, thx
[11:07] <dooglus> I think "sudo -i" is the "recommended" way of breaking the "no root logins" rule
[11:07] <moogman> Illuv_: I believe you'll need to install openoffice-base2 or so
[11:07] <zcat[1] > nah, -s gives you the same user environment, su - gives you root's environment
[11:07] <rob^lt> karjala, yes
[11:07] <Illuv_> moogman: thanks, i'll take a look
[11:07] <minktoast> new breezy install - enabled remote desktop, but get conection refused in VNC when trying from my windows box.  what else should i do?
[11:07] <rob^lt> karjala, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:08] <rob^lt> karjala, sometimes things break though as Debian is a little different to Ubuntu
[11:08] <karjala> rob^lt: thx
[11:08] <rob^lt> its been hit and miss on a few boxes for me
[11:08] <ccooke> moogman: MythTV is very good. I've not actually used it with a DVB card, but it does have support for them
[11:08] <ccooke> moogman: and it's a pretty excellent piece of work
[11:08] <karjala> rob^lt: Ok, I'll test on my test server first
[11:09] <zcat[1] > OK, my nvidia drivers are still not working :(
[11:09] <moogman> ccooke: Hmm. It seemed a bit bloaty to me. Adding a mythtv user, setting up sql server. Does it run fast?
[11:10] <sorush20> guys what does this mean Currently, fdmount is not set up as setuid root.  Good.
[11:10] <karjala> rob^lt: do things mainly break when the conf files are different? Or what else is different? The directory structure?
[11:10] <ssuhl> Hi There
[11:10] <zcat[1] > "apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-nvidia-legacy" should have installed the legacy drivers, but even after a reboot I still have thw wrong drivers. Running the nvidia binary installer wants to build custom drivers, but I do not feel like downloading and building the entire kernel source first if I can avoid that. any suggestions..?
[11:11] <rob^lt> karjala, once I had a system that wouldn't boot
[11:11] <karjala> rob^lt: did you find the cause of that?
[11:12] <moogman> Ah, mythtv is in multiverse
[11:12] <rob^lt> karjala, no, it was easier just to reinstall ubuntu from scratch, I usually keep /home on its own partition
[11:12] <ccooke> moogman: yes.
[11:12] <ssuhl> Got a question about the Evolution 2.4 - I'm using the Exchange Connector and I'm missing this little red Exchange button on the bottom left (near contacts, etc...) where I can edit my Favorite Directories on the Exchange Server. Any idea?
[11:13] <ccooke> moogman: It uses the SQL server to store program data and configuration
[11:13] <ccooke> moogman: and it's split into front and back end - the front-end can run on a different box, it just accesses the backend and database.
[11:13] <ccooke> moogman: you can even run multiple front ends
[11:13] <moogman> ccooke: Indeed. It's not a huge problem. I'll probably use SQL for something else too
[11:14] <moogman> ccooke: Hmm, that is interesting. Does the backend contain all the TV decoder logic?
[11:14] <ccooke> moogman: yep.
[11:14] <ccooke> moogman: and the recording code, too
[11:14] <moogman> Such that I could install the TV card in my server and then just pipe it over the network?
[11:14] <ccooke> moogman: yep.
[11:14] <ccooke> moogman: I do that at home
[11:15] <sorush20> I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found
[11:15] <ccooke> moogman: 802.11b is *just* too low bandwidth for the video. But 802.11g is perfect.
[11:15] <moogman> ccooke: Ah nice. I've got sqld running on server anyway, so I guess thats the best solution. Thank you.
[11:15] <ccooke> moogman: with the DVB card, you may be able to avoid encoding the video, too
[11:15] <sorush20> I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found... but I can mount the floppy and browse
[11:15] <dooglus> Seveas: is it possible to play realmedia files without installing the realplayer?
[11:15] <Da_SWAT> how can I reboot if "sudo reboot" doesn't work?
[11:16] <zcat[1] > dooglus: yes; mplayer + w32codecs will do it.
[11:16] <moogman> ccooke: Yeah, it comes through as MPEG-2, so it'd just have to decrypt it and write to disk I imagine.
[11:16] <Seveas> dooglus, yeah, it works for me with mplaeyer+w32codecs
[11:16] <ccooke> moogman: oh - and you can plug as many tv sources into mythtv as you have CPU power for.
[11:16] <abhayks> Da_SWAT, sudo -s  " reboot"
[11:16] <dooglus> Seveas: do you have "avisynth.dll" anywhere?
[11:16] <Ky0tIk> whats the fastest mirror right now for US residents?
[11:16] <Da_SWAT> I'll try thnx abhayks
[11:16] <zcat[1] > sudo /sbin/reboot might work
[11:16] <ccooke> moogman: only one frontend or recording process can have one video input at any one time, of course. However, if you're recording something any number of frontends can stream it
[11:17] <dooglus> zcat[1] : I tried mplayer + w32codecs - no go - can't find avisynth.dll
[11:17] <moogman> ccooke: My server is only a 700MHz Duron, but I'm eventually hoping to make a nice DVB box for the living room.
[11:17] <sorush20> why I try to mount I get this message sam@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/fd0 mount: mount point /media/fd0 does not exist
[11:17] <chriswk> sudo init 6 should also work
[11:17] <ccooke> moogman: takes a *little* work to get the channels sorted out (the backend config). Mostly it's very easy. The frontend just asks you for language and DB location, and then just works.
[11:18] <smartbhai> hi people .. i cant install ubuntu amd64 onto a machine with sata hard disk
[11:18] <dooglus> sorush20: you have to "sudo mkdir /media/fd0" if that's where you want it mounted
[11:18] <moogman> ccooke: Yeah, I've just used scan and tzap for the channels.conf dump. I think Myth can work with that.
[11:18] <Da_SWAT> abhayks, it doesn't work. (cant execute binary file)
[11:18] <segosa> I upgraded to breezy via apt-get and it never asked me for a reboot, is that normal?
[11:18] <smartbhai> hi people .. i cant install ubuntu amd64 onto a machine with sata hard disk
[11:18] <ccooke> moogman: Getting the channels right is more or less difficult depending on where you live. It's annoying in the UK, but doable.
[11:18] <smartbhai> it says not mountable device found
[11:18] <dooglus> segosa: you need to reboot to get the new kernel running
[11:19] <Jacko> anyone know how to get the window menu in konqueror and the konsole window inside konqueror as they don't seem to be there. Just installed the new Kubuntu
[11:19] <segosa> dooglus: but it won't specifically ask me, right? okay
[11:19] <moogman> ccooke: Yeah, I've done it before with warty+tzap+mplayer+lots of pain, so I have a channel listing with frequencies somewhere
[11:19] <rob^lt> Jacko, try #kubuntu
[11:19] <dooglus> segosa: once you've installed breezy, it gets better at nagging...
[11:19] <ccooke> moogman: sensible!
[11:19] <Jacko> cheer
[11:19] <segosa> does it nag over the commandline? it's a server install :p
[11:20] <segosa> doesn't matter anyway, being rebooted now
[11:20] <mustard5> How can I set up my sound to play sound from mulitple sources?
[11:20] <sorush20> dooglus: it does it in the /media/fd0,
[11:20] <Renski> im trying sudo apt-cache search mplayer, and it doesnt seem to be working
[11:20] <moogman> ccooke: using "scan" is a no-brainer, as you just select e.g. uk-Mendip (which comes as part of the package), and it'll do the scanning for you, so you just > channels.conf :)
[11:20] <stevejesus> Hi guys!
[11:20] <zcat[1] > does anyone know if/why the 'nvidia-legacy' packages don't actually install the nvidia-legacy drivers?
[11:21] <zcat[1] > Or how to get nvidia-legacy drivers installed short of downloading and building a whole new kernel?
[11:21] <stevejesus> Longtime Fedora user seeks shoulder to cry on
[11:21] <rob^lt> zcat[1] , its probably just a transition package
[11:21] <Renski> "couldnt find package mplayer" when i try and apt-get
[11:21] <Renski> (this is for hoary)
[11:21] <Da_SWAT> how can I force a reboot? (sudo reboot) doesn't work?
[11:21] <ccooke> moogman: hmm. I'll try it when Iget around to grabbing a DVB input
[11:22] <ktogias> Da_SWAT, try halt
[11:22] <zcat[1] > bah, I want my GL!!
[11:22] <moogman> ccooke: Ah yeah sorry, forgot you said about !DVB.
[11:22] <zcat[1] > Da_SWAT: "sudo /sbin/reboot"
[11:22] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: what do you mean reboot doesn't work?
[11:22] <dooglus> segosa: aah..  when you guys tell me "mplayer + w32codecs", which mplayer package do you mean?  I use "mplayer-nogui" - could that be the difference?
[11:22] <segosa> o_O
[11:23] <ccooke> moogman: I'm just using a TV card plugged into the cable box. Which requires an external IR device to change channel...
[11:23] <sample> Guys is there a problem with the repo site
[11:23] <ccooke> moogman: *that* took a little work to set up
[11:23] <stevejesus> so, can anyone aid me in my transition from Fedora?  I used Fedora since FC1.  I am very familiar with it.  Most things carry over, but there are some things I cannot triumph here.
[11:23] <Da_SWAT> zcat[1] ,GNULinuxer I do a "sudo reboot" and it gives the message that it WILL reboot, but it just doesn't. I guess it hangs somewhere
[11:23] <stevejesus> can anyone help?
[11:23] <moogman> ccooke: FYI, I've got the WinTV DVB card. Ubuntu loads the cx88 module for me.
[11:23] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: and you get a blank screen?
[11:23] <moogman> ccooke: Yeah, I'll probably be back asking about my remote in a few hours :)
[11:23] <Ky0tIk> hmm what all is on the DVD of Breezy?
[11:23] <Da_SWAT> GNULinuxer, not even. It's all intact :(
[11:24] <ccooke> moogman: heh. lirc is marginally difficult to get working.
[11:24] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: are you using a laptop?
[11:24] <Da_SWAT> nope, desktop
[11:24] <stevejesus> I suppose not.
[11:24] <stevejesus> thanks anyhow
[11:24] <ktogias> stevejesus, Be more spesific... What are you trying to do and do not know how?
[11:24] <Da_SWAT> I think it has something to do with the fact that my apt-get dist-upgrade didn't work (it also hung)
[11:24] <Belutz> why my breezy installation stops at testing network repository ??
[11:24] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: a similar thing happens with my laptop ... everything is shut down, but it never reboots ... i have to switch if off manually and switch on again
[11:25] <stevejesus> Oh I know what I am doing.  If i could just find out whats going on with this multiverse repo, I would be golden.
[11:25] <Ky0tIk> Belutz: the repos are hammered
[11:25] <Da_SWAT> GNULinuxer, damn, taht sucks
[11:25] <moogman> ccooke: Haha, just mashed my remote. Turns out that the "power" button on remote brings up the Ubuntu shutdown screen. Useful...
[11:25] <stevejesus> I am fresh meat to ubuntu so I dont know where it is, and why its directories seems to be empty
[11:25] <Ky0tIk> Belutz: its because everyone is downloading and updating...  it will finish eventually though
[11:25] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: yes, the dist-upgrade was messy ... but i fixed it somehow ...
[11:25] <Belutz> Ky0tIk, well then, the installer should skip the process
[11:25] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: now I need to fix the reboot issue
[11:25] <Ky0tIk> Belutz: it wont skip because its essential to the install
[11:26] <ccooke> moogman: moogman ... what sort of remote is it?
[11:26] <Da_SWAT> GNULinuxer, what would the halt command do?
[11:26] <Belutz> Ky0tIk, what if  I installed it in a non-network computer?
[11:26] <stevejesus> I began the ubuntu journey last night, and I still havent gotten to a point where Im ready to untar my home dir from Fedora
[11:26] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: halt will shut down but won't switch off the power i guess
[11:26] <Renski> I cant get my sound working, can anyone help?
[11:26] <ccooke> stevejesus: what's the problem you're seeing?
[11:26] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: halt -p will do that
[11:27] <dooglus> Renski: there are a bunch of different packages
[11:27] <moogman> ccooke: Holy crap. Volume control buttons bring up a Ubuntu volume control, and some button opens my CD drive haha
[11:27] <Ky0tIk> Belutz: it will install the base and the few packages on your system if it doesnt detect a network connection..  i am pretty sure of this anyway..
[11:27] <moogman> ccooke: I'm using hte one that comes with the DVB card
[11:27] <stevejesus> Does anyone know anything about that?
[11:27] <ccooke> moogman: ahhhh. Then the DVB driver may do it.
[11:27] <dooglus> mplayer-386 mplayer-586 mplayer-686 mplayer-custom mplayer-doc mplayer-fonts mplayer-k6 mplayer-k7 mplayer-nogui
[11:27] <alien8> good morning peeps, scsi scan: 96 byte inquiry failed. consider  BLIST_INQUIRY_36 for this device. Um... USB keyboard and mouse. all were ok on the hoary kernel. ho hum.
[11:27] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: your wanting to use the home directory you had in fedora on ubuntu?
[11:27] <ccooke> stevejesus: about what? What's your actual problem?
[11:28] <Belutz> Ky0tIk, well then i'll installed it without the network first, after it installed, i choose the mirror
[11:28] <Da_SWAT> GNULinuxer, I'm just trying /sbin/reboot -f..... forcing it to do my bidding
[11:28] <stevejesus> Im sorry, maybe you missed some of that.  My home dir is inconcequential haha.
[11:28] <stevejesus> my problem is repos
[11:28] <ccooke> What problem are you having with the repositories?
[11:28] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: the repos are giving a lot of peeps problems
[11:28] <ccooke> (Just call me Eliza)
[11:28] <Ky0tIk> you'd have to modify your sources.list
[11:29] <stevejesus> I installed ubuntu breezy badger last night having no clue that it was just released.  Which is always a bad idea
[11:29] <Ky0tIk> no
[11:29] <Ky0tIk> breezy is very stable
[11:29] <stevejesus> At least... in my experience
[11:29] <ccooke> stevejesus: no, released means it's stable.
[11:29] <Ky0tIk> ubuntu is a lot diff than fedora
[11:29] <Ky0tIk> trust me you will be surprised here
[11:29] <Ky0tIk> ubuntu stays bleeding age side of stable
[11:29] <ompaul> fedora is not a measure of anything
[11:30] <Ky0tIk> not like fedora where it stays unstable when it says stable
[11:30] <stevejesus> Oh, it seems that way.  but I was talking with John Dong earlier today about "backports" and he made me convince myself that I should try out Hoary
[11:30] <Ky0tIk> hmm
[11:30] <stevejesus> sso... now I am talking to you fine folks from a Hoary install
[11:30] <Da_SWAT> GNULinuxer, my pc wont even reboot using the -f flag (force).......
[11:30] <stevejesus> NEARLY fresh
[11:30] <Da_SWAT> GNULinuxer, and hardware reboot is so messy :(
[11:30] <Ky0tIk> i dont see why you would want to use backports with hoary instead of using breezy with the breezy things..
[11:31] <kemik> makes no sense to me
[11:31] <stevejesus> well...  I dont know either
[11:31] <stevejesus> thats why Im here
[11:31] <moogman> ccooke: Thanks for your help. I'll probably be back after. BTW, do you know the default password for the mythtv user offhand?
[11:31] <Ky0tIk> backports are like a crutch for hoary in my opinion
[11:31] <stevejesus> I honestly dont care so much which version I am running.  I just need to get some packages from the restricted repos
[11:31] <Ky0tIk> breezy is very very good right now
[11:31] <kemik> stevejesus:  install a fresh breezy ;)
[11:32] <Ky0tIk> i have been using breezy for about 2 months now
[11:32] <Ky0tIk> and its been very reliable even in those times before it was released
[11:32] <stevejesus> well, kemik, I already did, but I couldnt get to any packages I needed
[11:32] <Ky0tIk> much much more than RHEL4
[11:32] <michux> Any Apache guys here?
[11:32] <Ky0tIk> so go figure how much it would compare to ur FC history
[11:32] <michux> Cuz the apache channel is dead and i got a configuration problem with mod_rewrite
[11:33] <thuneon> hi there
[11:33] <stevejesus> well, my FC history has been rather good
[11:33] <Ky0tIk> well get ready for it to be rather better
[11:33] <stevejesus> There were just a few problems that I couldnt get past, and after reading the WIKI at ubuntu I was sold on trying it
[11:33] <Ky0tIk> much more i mean much more packages to choose from
[11:33] <Ky0tIk> lots less bugs
[11:33] <npiv> I logged in as root in console , now sudo isnt working anymore ? any idea how I can reset this to work once more ?
[11:33] <thuneon> my ubuntu 5.10 release 64bit freeze after login in gdm. On Slpash Screen it freeze completly. Kernel is 2.6.16
[11:34] <kemik> !tell npiv about root
[11:34] <thuneon> on gnome splash screen
[11:34] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus:  i cant really compare ubuntu to redhat or fc... i used redhat since version 2.x
[11:34] <stevejesus> well... to be honest.  I never had any trouble getting packages in Fedora for whatever I needed.  But I cant get much of anything so far in ubuntu
[11:34] <kemik> npiv:  or are you trying to "sudo" when logged in as root ?
[11:34] <Ky0tIk> i used FC 1 - 4, and RHEL 2 - 4
[11:34] <Ky0tIk> i switched to ubuntu and dont ever plan to go back
[11:34] <kemik> i never liked redhat
[11:35] <kemik> or well, the startup scripts are better than the system debian uses
[11:35] <stevejesus> well, make me like you.  Help me find what I need so I can get back up and running full force.
[11:35] <Ky0tIk> well i never liked how debian took so long for their releases
[11:35] <ccooke> moogman: sorry, was elsewhere. I think it's not passworded. Set one using sudo passwd mythtv
[11:35] <Ky0tIk> and i dont like how slackware is layed out
[11:35] <kemik> stevejesus:  what's not working ?
[11:35] <Shadowpillar> who here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?
[11:35] <stevejesus> repos.  Just multiverse
[11:35] <Ky0tIk> and i just liked redhat from the early stages.. and never moved on.. til i finally got tired of all the RPM shit and all the dephells
[11:35] <npiv> kemik, well I did an original sudo passwd to set a passwd, things worked fine. Then yesterday I swithced to terminal to do some work and logged in as root. since then sudo doesnt accept my password anymore
[11:35] <stevejesus> I need an alternative
[11:35] <Ky0tIk> then i found ubuntu and im very very glad i did
[11:35] <Shadowpillar> who here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?
[11:35] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error when I try to install hotplug have a look... in flood
[11:36] <sekundek> is it possible to have bookmark in kconsole to external host
[11:36] <sekundek> ?
[11:36] <kemik> stevejesus:  need alternatives to universe/multiverse ?
[11:36] <ccooke> stevejesus: I don't understand what isn't actually working. Are you saying you can't get multiverse - and only multiverse - working?
[11:36] <Ky0tIk> thats weird
[11:36] <stevejesus> yes, and yes
[11:36] <twilight> npiv, something wrong in /etc/sudoers?
[11:36] <kemik> and you did apt-get update?
[11:36] <Ky0tIk> bc multiverse and universe come off the same servers usually
[11:36] <kemik> and edited sources.list ?
[11:36] <ccooke> stevejesus: do you have multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:36] <stevejesus> of course
[11:37] <Shadowpillar> who here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?
[11:37] <stevejesus> haha
[11:37] <kemik> stevejesus:  paste your sources.list somewhere on pastebin
[11:37] <stevejesus> Everything looks dandy!
[11:37] <ccooke> stevejesus: does 'sudo apt-get update' show any errors?
[11:37] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: yea paste it to pastebin.com and we'll tell ya what to add to the lines
[11:37] <thuneon> no ideas ?
[11:37] <stevejesus> paste bin?
[11:37] <kemik> !pastebin
[11:37] <Ky0tIk> pastebin.com
[11:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:37] <stevejesus> ok
[11:38] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: i guess your a yum / up2date person huh?
[11:38] <stevejesus> http://pastebin.com/393282
[11:38] <stevejesus> yes.  much experience with yum
[11:39] <stevejesus> my interest in it declined after YUM 2.0 hit
[11:39] <stevejesus> they got rid of --force!!!
[11:39] <kemik> stevejesus:  those backports are ba
[11:39] <kemik> bad
[11:39] <stevejesus> so much roming to be done by hand...
[11:39] <kemik> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:39] <stevejesus> yeah?
[11:40] <Ky0tIk> backports arent a good thing they have been causing lots of problems
[11:40] <quicks> kemik, isn't this backports closed?
[11:40] <Ky0tIk> i think you would be a lot better off to do a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade   ;)
[11:40] <quicks> ky0tik, what? since when?
[11:40] <stevejesus> can one of you paste YOUR list for ME?  it may save us both time
[11:40] <scanwinder> what command do i use to mount an ntfs partition with read and write permissions?.........just "mount /dev/hdc1 /media/windows" isnt giving me write permissions
[11:40] <Jedrick> how to scan all files from virus using clamav anti-virus?
[11:40] <kemik> they've closed backports cus breezy is released?
[11:40] <kemik> !tell stevejesus about sources
[11:40] <Ky0tIk> quicks:  since a while
[11:40] <stevejesus> I've heard alot about apt but never used it till yesterday.
[11:41] <kemik> scanwinder:  dont try to write to ntfs
[11:41] <kemik> scanwinder:  its bad for you..
[11:41] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus:  its a lot better system for package updating than the up2date network and yum in redhat...
[11:41] <scanwinder> kemik: why? i really need 2 write to it
[11:41] <stevejesus> I was bound to YUM as I started udsing linux with yellowdog a few years back
[11:41] <quicks> ky0tik, then it's recommended to do the upgrade (as it's explained in ubuntu wiki)?
[11:41] <quicks> right?
[11:41] <Ky0tIk> quicks:  thats completely up to you
[11:42] <JDigital> scanwinder: you can't write to NTFS
[11:42] <Ky0tIk> but in my opinion yes
[11:42] <stevejesus> up2date is a peirrcing evil in my heart
[11:42] <Jedrick> how to scan all files from virus using clamav anti-virus?
[11:42] <kemik> scanwinder:  look into "captive" then...
[11:42] <stevejesus> i have mass distaste for it
[11:42] <scanwinder> kemik: ok
[11:42] <deFrysk> yum is also a piece of sillyness
[11:42] <quicks> ky0tik, hmmm. should i wait for a while, and then upgrade?
[11:42] <JDigital> It's because NTFS is a Microsoft-only standard and they won't tell anyone how NTFS works
[11:42] <dooglus> welp, I uninstalled mplayer-nogui and replaced it with mplayer-586. it still complains that it can't find avisynth.dll...
[11:42] <dooglus> how did you people get it to work?
[11:42] <Seveas> !find avisynth.dll
[11:42] <JDigital> but "captive" uses MS' own NTFS driver DLL so it provides a way around this limitaton
[11:43] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: start out with synaptic if you wish its the GUI apt interface.. its pretty good.. plus it lets you modify your sources.list in a GUI fashion if you prefer that..
[11:43] <stevejesus> i dont prefer GUI's
[11:43] <stevejesus> no use
[11:43] <Ky0tIk> ok then just use vi
[11:43] <Ky0tIk> :D
[11:43] <stevejesus> at least for package management
[11:43] <robotgeek> Ky0tIk: vi/vim is the way to go :)
[11:43] <quicks> ky0tik, hmmm. should i wait for a while, and then upgrade?
[11:43] <robotgeek> stevejesus: use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:43] <kemik> indeed vi/vim :)
[11:43] <Ky0tIk> ahhh synaptic is much different than the gui interfaces you are use to with rh/fc
[11:44] <kemik> !start an editor war
[11:44] <ubotu> nano is better than xemacs
[11:44] <stevejesus> yeah, same concept
[11:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'avisynth.dll' returned no results.
[11:44] <deFrysk> lol kemik
[11:44] <Nomad_X> Any cons with VSFTP?
[11:44] <stevejesus> I used it earlier to get some HIGHLY necessary packages
[11:44] <Seveas> vsftpd is the best oen
[11:44] <Seveas> one*\
[11:44] <robotgeek> stevejesus: the file to edit to add repositories is /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <stevejesus> kemik can you paste me a sources.list?
[11:44] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: i would do a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:45] <Nomad_X> any good texts out there on how to configure it
[11:45] <Ky0tIk> and its completely safe to do so
[11:45] <stevejesus> I am aware.  the one I pasted is one I saved earlier
[11:45] <kemik> stevejesus:  didnt ubotu do so ?
[11:45] <dooglus> Seveas: what is !find?  do you mean "apt-cache search"?  or what?
[11:45] <stevejesus> should it have?  I used what I saw in the WIKI, which I guess is now out of date
[11:45] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: try what we said
[11:45] <Jedrick> is there an online virus scan for linux?
[11:46] <Ky0tIk> just do the update and dist-upgrade
[11:46] <robotgeek> dooglus: i've never used the w32codecs before, but for all windows codecs, install w32codecs
[11:46] <Ky0tIk> if your in hoary it is completely safe to do so
[11:46] <dooglus> robotgeek: w32codecs doesn't include avisynth.dll
[11:46] <robotgeek> Jedrick: why virus scan linux?
[11:46] <robotgeek> dooglus: ah okay, i am on ppc :)
[11:46] <stevejesus> well, Im not sure I want to upgrade back to breezy again tonite.
[11:46] <Jedrick> maybe im infected :)
[11:46] <dooglus> robotgeek: why not?
[11:46] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus:  pm me
[11:46] <stevejesus> Will I be able to get all the packages available in Hoary?
[11:46] <deFrysk> lol Jedrick
[11:47] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: there are almost 20000 packages in breezy
[11:47] <robotgeek> dooglus: no virii on linux.
[11:47] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: the issue was solved once i compiled my own kernel!
[11:47] <Nomad_X> Linux = Virus Free
[11:47] <dooglus> robotgeek: nonsense.
[11:47] <dooglus> why would linux be virus free?
[11:47] <Jedrick> robotgeek:  really?.. no virus on linux?
[11:47] <ompaul> Jedrick, you can't be unless you are running windows
[11:47] <deFrysk> linux = free as in virus free :)
[11:47] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: as far as i know the packages in hoary are for breezy too..  everything i have needed has been there..
[11:48] <Jedrick> wow koool!
 linux = free as in virus free :) <-- nice one :)
[11:48] <Ky0tIk> of course i dont know about every single package b/c im sure our needs are a lil different
[11:48] <dooglus> there's nothing special about linux that makes it immune from viruses
[11:48] <Jedrick> so no need to install clamav anti virues then :p
[11:48] <robotgeek> Jedrick: no virii, cause they can't run..unless you put them there
[11:48] <marie> hiy
[11:48] <deFrysk> Seveas, thought so hehe
[11:48] <marie> hi
[11:48] <robotgeek> marie: hi
[11:48] <kemik> stevejesus:  my sources are for breezy now ;)
[11:48] <stevejesus> PM sent
[11:48] <GNULinuxer> Da_SWAT: try recompiling a fresh kernel ... my problem was solved with a new kernel
[11:48] <marie> asl pls
[11:48] <Ky0tIk> dooglus:  for one it doesnt use an open system registry prone to attacks like windows does...
[11:49] <marie> hi
[11:49] <Jedrick> then all people should use linux then for it's virus free :)
[11:49] <marie> hi
[11:49] <neuro|laptop> there were none last night :(
[11:49] <dooglus> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.rst.b.html
[11:49] <robotgeek> marie: we don't do that here, check #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <dooglus> ^-- a linux virus
[11:49] <helloyo> i did a fresh install of breezy and now my mouse scroll wheel doesn't scroll, what do i chance in xorg.conf?
[11:50] <marie> hi yvonne
[11:50] <helloyo> its a basic 2 button scroll wheel optical microsoft mouse btw
[11:50] <stevejesus> Ky0tik:  I sent you a PM.  where have you gone?
[11:50] <robotgeek> dooglus: 2002
[11:50] <Kvark> i messed up gnomes panels completely, now there is nothing on them and clicking or right clicking on them doesn't do anything, how to recover from that?
[11:50] <Ky0tIk> dooglus:  two it has many more security measures................3 it doesnt operate on a shell that has internet access  and direct system access. like the stupid explorer in windows....   without explorer windows doesnt work... without explorer you have no virus's thats pretty much the easiest way to say it
[11:50] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: i didnt get a pm
[11:50] <stevejesus> hrrrrmmmm
[11:50] <neuro|laptop> need to be registered with nickserv to do pms now
[11:51] <neuro|laptop> jooi
[11:51] <dooglus> robotgeek: there have been linux viruses for longer than that.
[11:51] <ECMN-Davao_City> hello guys im back
[11:51] <robotgeek> dooglus: true, but they are negligle
[11:51] <nightswim> ?nvidia
[11:51] <Jedrick> lets not argue with that linux is the best :p
[11:51] <pipoun> hello viva breezy!
[11:51] <pipoun> but what does overlaping screen mean?
[11:51] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: there were hundreds of viruses for windows before IE was even written
[11:52] <dooglus> all I'm saying is that it's dangerous to tell people there are no viruses for linux - it's not true!
[11:52] <stevejesus> sorry, im not a huge IRC user.  Can you help me better achieve this PM goal?
[11:52] <ECMN-Davao_City> guys whats are the major updates in 5.10?
[11:52] <dooglus> people still need to be careful what they run
[11:52] <stevejesus> I "offered a chat"
[11:52] <marie> h9
[11:53] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: all you need to do is download a dodgy .deb or some dodgy source.  when you "sudo dpkg -i" it, you're done for
[11:53] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: yes thats true, but it still operated with direct access to hardware from the user which could be covered in virii code.. and cause OS failure.... and system crashes... in linux it takes  the users actual input to do something.. things doesnt happen automatically unless you have chosen some kinda weird script that will let it do stuff like that
[11:53] <Belial-> dooglus: on Windows you're running as root all the time .. a virus can do much more harm there
[11:53] <dooglus> Belial-: on linux you operate as root whenever you "dpkg -i"
[11:53] <Ky0tIk> dodgy?? and why would i want to install a package i dont even know what is?
[11:53] <robotgeek> dooglus: with a sudo :)
[11:53] <Ky0tIk> and how would it get installed without me doing it
[11:54] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: you see people in here every day asking how to install .deb files they've downloaded from the net...
[11:54] <Ky0tIk> like i said it takes USER interaction
[11:54] <Ky0tIk> yea you can screw up linux....
[11:54] <Belial-> dooglus: that's why you check the signature before installing
[11:54] <Ky0tIk> but you are the one doing it....
[11:54] <spacedman> is there a way of getting the ubuntu version from the command line? like 'cat /etc/redhat-release' on a deadrat box?
[11:54] <dooglus> it takes user interaction, right.  that's not even the same ballpark as "linux viruses don't exist"
[11:54] <kemik> stevejesus:  dont use DCC chat...
[11:54] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: yea they download .deb files that come from a reliable source too
[11:54] <kemik> stevejesus:  pm with /msg <nickname> [message] 
[11:54] <stevejesus> alright then, what shall i use?
[11:54] <Ky0tIk> most people dont look for .deb files of everything..
[11:54] <stevejesus> ah
[11:54] <stevejesus> ok
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> most people find what they need in the repos, if they are wise anyway
[11:55] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: is the w32codecs .deb a reliable source?
[11:55] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: you there?
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> not if its not in the repos its not
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> filename doesnt mean nothing
[11:55] <dooglus> lots of people install it...
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> well thats their own stupidity
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> if they wouldnt have gotten like that from using microsoft they wouldnt be ruining their linux boxes
[11:55] <jhank> does anyone know what to do with a xine message no real video 4 codec
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> its as simple as that
[11:55] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, yes but not active...
[11:56] <dooglus> right.  but that stupidity is encouraged by people telling them "don't worry - there aren't any viruses for linux".  get it?
[11:56] <Ky0tIk> jhank install the codecs for mpg321 probably
[11:56] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: breezy fails to reboot, it shuts down all processes but in the end i just see a blank screen and nothing.
[11:56] <Belial-> dooglus: an ordinary user wouldn't download debs and install manually
[11:56] <robotgeek> spacedman: cat /etc/issue
[11:56] <Shadowpillar> who here has ubuntu on an oldworld powermac?
[11:56] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: thats not really a virus....
[11:56] <onkarshinde> GNULinuxer: Is it just problem with reboot?
[11:56] <dooglus> Belial-: an ordinary user who wants to play his windows media files will have to
[11:57] <GNULinuxer> onkarshinde: yes, i guess so
[11:57] <Ky0tIk> when you get linux your not going to know how to dpkg -i blah.deb  right from the start anyway
[11:57] <onkarshinde> GNULinuxer: is it a laptop?
[11:57] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: why isn't that a virus?
[11:57] <Ky0tIk> and i dont know anyone going to do that without getting some help from someone in a chat
[11:57] <GNULinuxer> onkarshinde: yes
[11:57] <Belial-> dooglus: viruses spread .. trojans don't
[11:57] <jhank> ky0tik is that the mpg321 package?
[11:57] <onkarshinde> GNULinuxer: I think adding reboot=b or acpi=off to the kernel line should help you.
[11:58] <dooglus> Belial-: this could spread.  once you have root running malicious code it can do anything
[11:58] <Ky0tIk> yea jhank
[11:58] <Ky0tIk> try it and see if it works
[11:58] <GNULinuxer> onkarshinde: reboot=b ? what does that do? i don't want to do acpi=off
[11:58] <ompaul> dooglus, no you need others to run it as root
[11:58] <dooglus> ompaul: I don't.  even if it just spreads around my system, that's still a virus
[11:58] <Ng> root is easy to get once you are on a machine
[11:58] <ompaul> dooglus, its different a lot different
[11:59] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: i see your point... but... yea their are what 9 known virus's that affect linux?? well im sure their are millions of unknown virii that affect linux...
[11:59] <onkarshinde> GNULinuxer: I am not sure what reboot=b is. But I see it on my HP laptop. But of course I am using hoary.
[11:59] <ompaul> dooglus, due to the fact that we don't have .exe then where does the file choose to embed itself?
[11:59] <onkarshinde> GNULinuxer: You can confirm from someone else.
[11:59] <Ky0tIk> i just dont see why anyone is going to be out installing .deb files off the www or off p2p
[11:59] <stevejesus> This is really getting frustrating.  Do APT repos support wildcards like YUM does?
[11:59] <jhank> ky0tik doesn't work. it sys no plugin for real video 4
[11:59] <GNULinuxer> onkarshinde: it's all perfect with hoary
[11:59] <jhank> kyotik sys= it say
[11:59] <GNULinuxer> onkarshinde: it was ... but breezy has this issue
[11:59] <dooglus> ompaul: the filename doesn't matter.  what difference does the it make that we don't use a .exe extension?
[12:00] <ompaul> dooglus, how does it choose to spread around your system?
[12:00] <robotgeek> stevejesus: yes, they do. what do you need to install though. you can also do a package search at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <BlueMat> Anyone successfully Inet connection shared Ubuntu?
[12:00] <dooglus> ompaul: I guess it affects binaries
[12:00] <ompaul> dooglus, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic its not for here, its theory
[12:00] <Ky0tIk> dooglus:  it dont matter about the filename anything can be renamed and made executable....  the point is... why would someone do that.. if they do it.. they are new and they learn quickly what to do and what not to do
[12:00] <stevejesus> well, I should just be able to use APT from the command line to search a repo
[12:00] <Ky0tIk> so its just a good thing
[12:00] <stevejesus> I hope...
[12:01] <stevejesus> ill MAN it real fast
[12:01] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: use aptitude
[12:01] <robotgeek> stevejesus: apt-cache search <string>
[12:01] <Fhured> Hi All...
[12:01] <Ky0tIk> hell fhured
[12:01] <BlueMat> When booting Breezy, "Loading Modules.." results in a segmentation fault and halts..Im thinking this may have something to do with NDiswrapper..anyone come across this?
[12:02] <say^> stevejesus: apt-cache search does a "wildcard" search, ie. it searches for that string within the package names
[12:02] <Ky0tIk> jhank: did you get your xine to work?
[12:02] <ompaul> stevejesus, commands are 99.99999% of the time in lower case
[12:02] <jhank> yepp
[12:02] <Ky0tIk> was it mpg321?
[12:02] <ratboy> lo there
[12:02] <stevejesus> really?  just kidding.  I like the way MAN looks in all caps
[12:02] <Fhured> I used the dos grub method of installing Ubuntu...at the end of the install it asked to install grub, and I agreed..on reboot the machine only boots the exiting OS
[12:02] <stevejesus> I wouldnt use it like that in application. har har
[12:03] <Ky0tIk> Fhured: did you install to the mbr?
[12:03] <Ky0tIk> grub that is
[12:03] <say^> stevejesus: So you like men in caps :-)
[12:03] <Fhured> any idea what the kernel and initrd paramters should be: Ky0tIk :- yes
[12:03] <stevejesus> hhaa
[12:03] <Ky0tIk> jhank: did mpg321 fix your xine prob?
[12:03] <stevejesus> well, I bat for my own team.  I just want to be funny
[12:03] <jhank> no
[12:04] <onkarshinde> Where can I get Ubuntu mirror list?
[12:04] <ompaul> stevejesus, in all honesty you can confuse others, that is not fair, consider this MAN does not equal man so if you wanted to say man foo the way I emphise it with this >man foo< that is very obvious that its different
[12:04] <jhank> but thats the problem in any player, it's a mkv file
[12:04] <stevejesus> duely noted
[12:04] <Ky0tIk> Fhured: yea it will be your in your /boot/
[12:04] <robotgeek> jhank: did u try vlc?
[12:04] <Seveas> onkarshinde, wiki/Archive
[12:05] <stevejesus> Is anyone in here using Hoary?
[12:05] <jhank> nop
[12:05] <Seveas> stevejesus, yes
[12:05] <jmibanez> there seems to be a bug in either HAL or gnome-volume-manager
[12:05] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus: i doubt it
[12:05] <jhank> should i ?
[12:05] <Ky0tIk> well seveas is
[12:05] <ratboy> vlc rocks on breezy
[12:05] <jmibanez> nautilus refuses to mount floppies
[12:05] <jmibanez> (on breezy)
[12:05] <Seveas> stevejesus, I did not yet have time to upgrade all my servers
[12:05] <Ky0tIk> jhank:  vlc is ok, but i dont know if it will play what you are wanting to.. is it an avi your trying to play?
[12:05] <jmibanez> error is "given UDI is not a mountable volume" on the details pane of the error dialog
[12:05] <robotgeek> ratboy: vlc on ppc is still not compiled with altivec support, so i figure mine will be a little slow
[12:05] <Fhured> nope, I installed onto an XP box, used the Ubuntu disk manager to make space...found out after boot that I had dumped it onto the wrong drive
[12:05] <jmibanez> how does one go about tracing this?
[12:06] <Ky0tIk> Fhured: thats what happened then
[12:06] <bettong_BOFH> ok anyone here ever get a virus in linux?
[12:06] <Sonderblade> i'm trying to apt-get dist-upgrade but im getting an error on kdevelop3
[12:06] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH: not in a year
[12:06] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH: since i started using it
[12:06] <Ky0tIk> Sonderblade: did you apt-get update first?
[12:06] <raf256> how much ubuntu differs from debian?
[12:06] <Sonderblade> Ky0tIk: yes
[12:06] <raf256> as in, configuration files layout (etc, init.d, and so on) is identical?
[12:06] <Ky0tIk> raf256 quiet a bit
[12:06] <Pluk> anyone know howto change the mousecursor in amarok in gnome? it uses an ugly Xcursor in kdeapps
[12:06] <bettong_BOFH> niether have i so therefor it is safe to assume that linux/ubuntu is virus safe
[12:06] <raf256> what about stable/unstable?
[12:06] <Fhured> No changes to the boot loader, it is still using the winxp one...However I have the DOS grub available..just not sure of the paramters to pass
[12:07] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH: yeah
[12:07] <Fhured> It would appear that I have installed it onto DISK0 2nd part
[12:07] <ompaul> raf256, its a fork of sid that is made stable over a six month period
[12:07] <jhank> ky0tix its mkv
[12:07] <robotgeek> jhank: matrosky?
[12:07] <stevejesus> kemik: thank you again for that link you sent me:)
[12:07] <jhank> i already had it run before i set my box up with the new ubuntu.... matroska yes
[12:07] <Ky0tIk> raf256:  ubuntu is very stable and very current with packages in the stable side... whereas debian stays behind a long way...   as far as configuration  ubuntu makes a lot automatic... where as debian asks for a lot of user interaction during package updating...
[12:07] <ratboy> mkv is matroska video
[12:08] <ratboy> u can play it smoothly with vlc i presume
[12:08] <bettong_BOFH> robotgeek, i was reading my logs and noticed that someone was saying that ubuntu could get viruses
[12:08] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH: *could*
[12:08] <bettong_BOFH> and i noticed that that isen't possible without root access
[12:08] <raf256> ok, so why not install it on my laptop then
[12:08] <Ky0tIk> jhank: mkv?
[12:08] <jhank> okay i try vlc
[12:08] <Ng> bettong_BOFH: isn't possible *in theory*
[12:08] <raf256> but is the /etc/* layout same? I rather dont want to learn from scratch
[12:08] <jhank> yes, mkv
[12:08] <Ky0tIk> never seen mkv
[12:08] <jhank> not mka
[12:08] <Ky0tIk> try vlc
[12:09] <robotgeek> raf256: yeah, pretty much same
[12:09] <Ky0tIk> but xine usually plays about anything vlc does
[12:09] <bettong_BOFH> well hmm that therory seems to have been proven as i have not herd of a ubuntu user getting a virus
[12:09] <ratboy> :)
[12:09] <Ng> mplayer and totem should be able to do mkv too
[12:09] <nightswim> how do I regenerate the nvidia.ko for my kernel
[12:09] <jhank> okay i try it
[12:09] <JDigital> mplayer does
[12:09] <ompaul> raf256, there is not much to learn, just use sudo when you would do root stuff and away you go
[12:09] <Ky0tIk> and i like the interface better than vlc.. but thats a matter of opinion
[12:09] <Ng> bettong_BOFH: that's not how you prove an hypothesis ;)
[12:09] <JDigital> .mkv is a video format very much like .avi
[12:09] <raf256> hm normal su and logint to root dont work?
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> fucking macinrosh
[12:09] <dooglus> there are local exploits in linux.  if you get access as a user, you can escalate your access to root level.
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> fucking macintosh
[12:09] <JDigital> for all intents and purposes
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> now it won't show its display
[12:09] <Ky0tIk> mplayer?? totem??   i dont think that would be opinion...  i would go with either vlc or xine.... i think most in here would agree on that
[12:09] <bettong_BOFH> Ng lol i know but heck ya gotta admit it's a damn good track record
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> broken POS
[12:09] <Ky0tIk> heh
[12:09] <ompaul> !tell Shadowline about conduct
[12:09] <bettong_BOFH> ^_^
[12:09] <Ng> JDigital: hey :)
[12:09] <JDigital> macintosh more like macintrash am  irite
[12:09] <JDigital> hi ng
[12:10] <Shadowpillar> JDigital: 4chan perchance?
[12:10] <Ky0tIk> dooglus:  you were told to take that to offtopic room
[12:10] <JDigital> Shadowpillar: Hey, small world.
[12:10] <Ng> Ky0tIk: vlc and xine suck, it's all about the totem and mplayer ;)
[12:10] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: I am responding to people claiming that linux is 'safe'!
[12:10] <jmibanez> anyone? how does one go about tracing the problem?
[12:10] <JDigital> Ky0tIk: I'm an mplayer fan
[12:10] <Ky0tIk> dooglus:  linux is safer
[12:10] <stevejesus> Im still having the dame problem.  Oh dear.
[12:10] <Shadowpillar> JDigital: SNACKS HAS TEH AIDS LAWLZ
[12:10] <Ky0tIk> its not disaster proof
[12:10] <stevejesus> I really dont want to hook up the FC box right now
[12:10] <Ky0tIk> its not a bulletproof os
[12:10] <jmibanez> i need to help out a friend-- he installed breezy.
[12:11] <onkarshinde> dooglus: Any specific security problem you faced with Linux?
[12:11] <say^> Hmm this breezy upgrade process has teached me not to install non-standard packages.
[12:11] <jmibanez> hoary works with mounting floppies. breezy is broken
[12:11] <Ky0tIk> SAFER much more safe...............
[12:11] <JDigital> Haha, I got banned for two days from the 4chan admin channel for saying WT SNACKS IS FULL OF AIDS when I thought he wasn't listening
[12:11] <Ky0tIk> now drop it please
[12:11] <robotgeek> Ng: vlc generally rocks, but totem has gotten better
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> JDigital: I go to wtfux mostly
[12:11] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: right.  and it's dangerous to keep presenting it as bulletproof.  it leads to a false sense of security
[12:11] <jhank> ky0tik no chance in vlc.... there is the plugin missing
[12:11] <JDigital> Why, did you get banned for something?
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> JDigital: all the gamefaqs type kiddies have made 4chan crappy, that and wtsnacks, and I also hate moot because he's a moron
[12:11] <johntramp> hey I am having problems with grub
[12:11] <ompaul> dooglus, is windows ready for the desktop with all that spywware, and having to get antivirus software before you start? is windows ready for the desktop when you do not have the option to change stuff to work the way you really want?
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> nope
[12:11] <JDigital> haha he is
[12:11] <JDigital> snacks is a banhappy dictator
[12:12] <johntramp> I have a sata drive with ubuntu installed on, and I think grub sees it as hd0
[12:12] <robotgeek> ompaul,dooglus : #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> JDigital: wtfux isnt just a 4chan refugee camp
[12:12] <dooglus> ompaul: I'm not comparing linux with windows.  I'm comparing it with the bulletproof operating system people claim it it
[12:12] <johntramp> is there any way I can check that?
[12:12] <robotgeek> JDigital: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:12] <dooglus> claim it is...
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> anyway
[12:12] <ompaul> dooglus, #ubuntu-offtopic I'll take it on there
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> can anyone here help me with ubuntu on the powermac 8500?
[12:12] <Ky0tIk> dooglus:  what started this argument?
[12:12] <Ky0tIk> who cares?
[12:12] <stevejesus> I may be able to
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> it boots
[12:12] <Ky0tIk>  i havent seen anyone complaining that linux has gotten virus's
[12:12] <dooglus> what's the topic here?
[12:12] <stevejesus> Shadowpillar
[12:12] <Ky0tIk> and screwed up
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> but kernel panics saying it cant find its own root partition
[12:12] <robotgeek> dooglus: support
[12:13] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: ubuntu is the topic here
[12:13] <ratboy> shadow, what ru trying to do with ur mac ? may help u i think
[12:13] <Ky0tIk> whats this to do with ubuntu
[12:13] <Shadowpillar> stevejesus: what?
[12:13] <Ky0tIk> ?
[12:13] <robotgeek> Shadowpillar: does it boot from the live cd?
[12:13] <Shadowpillar> robotgeek: oldworld mac here
[12:13] <robotgeek> Shadowpillar: so no yaboot?
[12:13] <dooglus> robotgeek: that's why this came up.  someone came looking for support to get protection from viruses.  instead of giving him that support we mislead him into thinking he didn't need it!
[12:13] <nightswim> how do I regenerate the nvidia.ko for my kernel?
[12:13] <ratboy> oldworld booting on inuw is a pain in the ass
[12:13] <rob^lt> !nvidia
[12:13] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:13] <ratboy> linux
[12:13] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: do you use antivirus protection?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> robotgeek: nope, using bootx
[12:14] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell me if this partition config is good enough for a home page + somewhat development system? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3067
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> if I could manage to get into my linux system, set up quik
[12:14] <Ky0tIk> i never have in linux unless i was scanning my NTFS or FAT partitions and my LAN....
[12:14] <say^> dooglus: are you working for Symantec? If a regular home user asks whether he _needs_ virus protection for his ubuntu system, the answer is obviously no.
[12:14] <Ky0tIk> never have i ever gotten a virus
[12:14] <vengeful_> you would need to be quite stupid to get a virus in linux?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> anhd I've just about had it with that mac
[12:14] <Ky0tIk> vengeful: i would think so
[12:14] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: not as such.  I use rootkit protection, and other intrusion detection stuff
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> but after $82 worth of shipping, I'm keeping it
[12:14] <stevejesus> can someone tell me what is wrong here  http://pastebin.com/393307
[12:14] <Ky0tIk> downloading package files from p2p or from unsafe http sites
[12:14] <ompaul> vengeful, no but you would have to be stupid to run it :)
[12:15] <say^> dooglus: In a more critical environment, I would suppose it would keep you safe.
[12:15] <Sonderblade> apt-get dist-upgrade fails with "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f." what to do?
[12:15] <stevejesus> i cant get to multiverse still
[12:15] <gogeta> finnly up and runnin
[12:15] <vengeful_> i just dont do apt-get virus
[12:15] <vengeful_> il be ok
[12:15] <vengeful_> :-P
[12:15] <ratboy> :)
[12:15] <Ky0tIk> sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[12:15] <dooglus> say^: home environments are critical if you use them for internet banking, credit card purchases, etc.
[12:15] <ompaul> stevejesus, if you do >sudo apt-get update< then >sudo apt-get some_package< after you alter repos
[12:15] <nightswim> the nvidia-glx-config enable does not do the trick
[12:16] <johntramp> why is grub-install not on the live cd!
[12:16] <stevejesus> thank you
[12:16] <johntramp> or grub for that matter
[12:16] <Fhured> where does ubuntu keep its "vmlinuz" and what should the inird path look like?
[12:16] <ompaul> dooglus, I think you are trolling - take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:16] <Ky0tIk> johntramp:  are you kidding?
[12:16] <onkarshinde> johntramp: why would you need that?
[12:16] <gogeta> lucky i knoe my way around bash lol
[12:16] <johntramp> to fix the bootloader...
[12:16] <Ng> Fhured: in /boot usually, initrd would be /boot/initrd.img-KERNELVERSION
[12:16] <Ky0tIk> johntramp: you trying to fix a grub
[12:17] <gogeta> had to bypass ipv6 and reconfigure x manuly
[12:17] <johntramp> yes,  now I have to chroot :(
[12:17] <Sonderblade> Ky0tIk: ok that worked but now i get lots of errors from perl about my locale
[12:17] <Ky0tIk> sonderblade pastebin your errors
[12:17] <stevejesus> well praise the transient vagabond lord.  its not yelling... yet
[12:18] <nightswim> nvidia-glx-config enable simpy exits :/
[12:18] <onkarshinde> Please someone suggest any improvements http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3067
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> I think I'll get to work on that shuttle MV18 board
[12:19] <gogeta> oh i like
[12:19] <gogeta> that add remove program app is just nice
[12:19] <gogeta> has non free on there
[12:19] <gogeta> like real player
[12:19] <Ky0tIk> onkarshinde: so you just have a 2gb /?
[12:20] <stevejesus> oh dear.  you guys have saved my life
[12:20] <stevejesus> i love you
[12:20] <stevejesus> no more fc for me
[12:20] <Ky0tIk> stevejesus:  :D
[12:20] <sorush20> please someone help
[12:20] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: seems fine
[12:20] <Ky0tIk> told ya didnt i stevejesus
[12:20] <stevejesus> thank you
[12:20] <gogeta> minus the installer im aruldy inpressed
[12:20] <Sonderblade> Ky0tIk: http://pastebin.com/393309
[12:20] <Ky0tIk> doesnt take long to decide on it does it
[12:20] <Ky0tIk> lol
[12:20] <onkarshinde> Ky0tIk: I suppose most of the things go into /usr. that is why /usr is 3 GB and remaining 2 GB for everything else. Note that /home is already separate.
[12:21] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: Thanks
[12:21] <gogeta> no it dont
[12:21] <onkarshinde> sorush20: What is problem?
[12:21] <gogeta> not 1 distro i knoe of ever encluded non free in there installers
[12:21] <onkarshinde> Sonderblade: What is problem?
[12:21] <gogeta> including apt and yum style
[12:21] <BlueMat> When booting Breezy, "Loading Modules.." results in a segmentation fault and halts..Im thinking this may have something to do with NDiswrapper..anyone come across this?
[12:21] <Ng> onkarshinde: if it was me I'd go with a ~3gb / and make the rest be /home
[12:22] <Ky0tIk> yea i noticed that but what about your /var /etc ?   2gb isnt much at all man... just to be honest with ya if you want to use a 10gb partition and thats all you should have just set /home with 3 or 4 and /   with the rest.. thats how i would have done it
[12:22] <cjhcjhcjh> best way to install realplayer - via their website, or using apt-get?
[12:22] <Fhured> thanks..let me try
[12:22] <robotgeek> Ng: i have a 5 gb root, and that was not enough.
[12:22] <Ky0tIk> see but its diff for diff people
[12:22] <Ng> cjhcjhcjh: their website
[12:22] <gogeta> guess the website wasent kidding in saying linux without the bs
[12:22] <Ky0tIk> like NG done the opposite of me
[12:22] <Ky0tIk> but its just how u want it
[12:22] <cjhcjhcjh> ng ty
[12:22] <gogeta> lol
[12:22] <Corrado> Hey all.  I have a dumb security question.
[12:22] <stevejesus> what works better for you guys, blackdown or sun java?
[12:22] <onkarshinde> Ng: Thanks for suggestion. I can keep /home less than 3 GB since I already have 30 GB just for any damn thing I may store on my machine.
[12:22] <ompaul> Corrado, ask it
[12:22] <Ng> robotgeek: depends what you need, my work desktop only uses about 2.5gb for /, my home development one uses more like 8 ;)
[12:23] <BlueMat> When booting Breezy, "Loading Modules.." results in a segmentation fault and halts..Im thinking this may have something to do with NDiswrapper..anyone come across this?
[12:23] <Ng> onkarshinde: fair enough :)
[12:23] <robotgeek> stevejesus: sun java is newer, and faster. blackdown is 'free'
[12:23] <Corrado> Well, I just installed 5.10 (over my beloved Slackware) and now I can't run anything that requires elevated privildges.  :(
[12:23] <Ky0tIk> onkarshinde:  if i were you i would take that 30gb and take the 10gb and i would partition the whole thing differently
[12:23] <gogeta> yes but no other distro includes them
[12:23] <gogeta> this one does
[12:23] <robotgeek> !tell Corrado about root
[12:23] <BlueMat> Corrado, sudo
[12:23] <sorush20> I can't start my printer I don't know what the hell has happened to it.. there is a shell script at /etc/hotplug/usb that is supposed to run but it doesn't
[12:23] <BlueMat> !sudo
[12:23] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:23] <robotgeek> BlueMat: try disabling the ndiswrapper module
[12:23] <gogeta> by non free i mean non gpl
[12:23] <Ky0tIk> i would make a /home that is about 5 gb and a / that is about 10 - 15     and then partition the rest of the data in /data or something
[12:24] <ompaul> Corrado, it was not stupid, it was just something you did not know, use >sudo foo< to do a job
[12:24] <BlueMat> robotgeek, I cant even boot into a shell
[12:24] <onkarshinde> Ky0tIk: I would do the same if I had some media to store my very important data (read as songs and movies) ;-)
[12:24] <Ky0tIk> onkarshinde: but i really dont know aht kind of data you have
[12:24] <Ng> Ky0tIk: I used to do that, but everything I was putting in /data made just as much sense in /home ;)
[12:24] <robotgeek> BlueMat: use the live cd, and check the logs
[12:24] <gogeta> now that frendly
[12:24] <Sonderblade> onkarshinde: the proble is that perl complains about locale stuff
[12:24] <robotgeek> BlueMat: or rescue mode in the install cd
[12:24] <Ky0tIk> onkarshinde:  you can combine them and convert them with pqmagic
[12:24] <Corrado> Well, when I try to use sudo for *anything* it just gives me back my prompt.
[12:24] <gogeta> says said app isnt avable but its hear wanna enable it
[12:25] <BlueMat> robotgeek, /valr/log/messages/ ?
[12:25] <gogeta> that ownez
[12:25] <robotgeek> BlueMat: /var/log/messages
[12:25] <onkarshinde> Sonderblade: Have you installed all the locale packaes you need? Do you need to install any special package for PERL for handling locale? (I am not a PERL expert)
[12:25] <Ky0tIk> Sonderblade: did you paste the errors to pastebin?
[12:25] <gogeta> anone else you would be edting files
[12:25] <BlueMat> robotgeek, thanks will try when I get home.., you know about internet connection sharing with ubuntu?
[12:26] <Corrado> Like I can type >sudo alksfjalksfjasf< and it wont complain at all!!
[12:26] <onkarshinde> Ky0tIk: I previously had some problems with pqmagic. And I don't suppose it is available for linux
[12:26] <Corrado> I can't view my logs or anything...  :(
[12:26] <Ky0tIk> i meant the bootable version of pqmagic
[12:26] <bigfoot1> hi everyone, I just upgraded. how come all files and folders in my nautilus look like text documents? Please refer to http://img436.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot46ii.jpg
[12:26] <robotgeek> BlueMat: i would search on the wiki
[12:26] <rob^lt> BlueMat, yes, just install firestarter and enable it
[12:26] <quam> well, i was getting like 60k/s from the repositories. then all you bastards got back on them :P
[12:26] <BlueMat> rob^lt, yes Ive done that..but heres my problem
[12:26] <Sonderblade> Ky0tIk: yes here http://pastebin.com/393314 and here http://pastebin.com/393309
[12:27] <jhank> ky0tik when i execute mplayer <file> from shell, i get the output that a couple of win32 files are missing... eventhough there is w32codecs installed, but dir the /usr/lib/win32 is missing
[12:27] <ompaul> Corrado, it will ask for a password that password is yours, however the second and so forth users on the box do not get that privilege without adding them to /etc/sudoers
[12:27] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: try a different theme and see if the icons come back
[12:27] <rob^lt> BlueMat, you need to set all the clients to use the ip address of the internet connected machine as their gateway
[12:27] <coolkev> ever since i got ubuntu breezy, the xchat that came with closes automatically at any random time without reason.
[12:27] <gogeta> im not into rotless systems but i am quickly changing my mind lol
[12:27] <coolkev> so it can close after 1 hour or 4 hour
[12:27] <coolkev> for no reason
[12:27] <Corrado> Hmmm...well I did kill the first user and try to re-add them back.  Maybe I just need to drop to "safe" mode and edit /etc/sudoers.  Right?
[12:28] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Are you using any specific theme for GNOME? I have never seen anything like this.
[12:28] <rob^lt> gogeta, you can always get a root terminal by doing sudo -s
[12:28] <ompaul> gogeta, try it for a week and you will object to going back :)
[12:28] <Ng> Corrado: you don't need to edit /etc/sudoers, just add the user you want to have sudo access to the "admin" group
[12:28] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, it worked!!! you are cool!
[12:28] <gogeta> im quickly lerning why they got that best distro award
[12:28] <bigfoot1> hi onkarshinde. nice to see you again.
[12:28] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: heheh :D
[12:28] <gogeta> lol
[12:28] <Corrado> Ng, Ahh...ok.  I'll give that a try
[12:28] <coolkev> should i get rid of xchat that came with ubuntu and install it myself using the tar.gz from website?
[12:28] <BlueMat> rob^lt, I have two boxes, BoxA asks if u like a proxy, it ha s awireless card/and eth card, box B has just ethernet, box B also dual boots Ubuntu & WinXp, Ive got it working fine sharing the connection through firestarter, but thing is, I can get windows to access the ics share from ubuntu, ive replicated IP addrs, subnets and gateways..any ideas?
[12:28] <Corrado> Thanx!
[12:28] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, i'm using the fastest theme in ubuntu.
[12:28] <anthony> !w32codecs
[12:28] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:29] <ompaul> thoreauputic, greetings
[12:29] <Ky0tIk> Sonderblade:   looks like if i were you i would take kdedevelop off, as well as katomic..   after you have uninstalled them then try the dist-upgrade again
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hello there
[12:29] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Can you tell me the name. I will make sure not to use it.
[12:29] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: :)
[12:29] <anthony> !win32codecs
[12:29] <ubotu> anthony: Are you on ritalin?
[12:30] <ompaul> anthony, w32codecs :)
[12:30] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[12:30] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:30] <rob^lt> BlueMat, I'm a little confused to what you mean
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ;)
[12:30] <Ky0tIk> Sonderblade:  the other looks like you just havent set your locales
[12:30] <Sonderblade> Ky0tIk: if i do that i get a huge amount of "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[12:30] <rob^lt> w32codecs information is now on the wiki
[12:30] <stevejesus> where can i find the gpg key for the nerim repo
[12:30] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, actually the theme's name was "customized" or something like that. But in hoary, it was called something like clearlooks. I don't know the exact name, but i chose that theme because it was quicker than ubuntu's default theme
[12:30] <stevejesus> i need to install w32 codecs
[12:30] <wezzer> Is anyone experiencing same problems after upgrading to breezy? The problem is that sudo apt-get update says that process is locked even though I can't find any process that would lock it
[12:30] <rob^lt> ubotu tell stevejesus about w32codecs
[12:31] <Ng> stevejesus: there's little point adding that as a repo just for one package, you can grab the .deb directly
[12:31] <anthony> I'm looking for that URL with the torrent tracker to download the codecs.
[12:31] <bigfoot1> guys, what's the fastest theme for ubuntu?
[12:31] <stevejesus> great, where can i find it
[12:31] <Ky0tIk> Sonderblade: pm me plz ill get ya through this
[12:31] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: I have used clearlooks and never saw any such thing.
[12:31] <BlueMat> rob^lt, I have an ubuntu box sharing the inet connection to BoxB running Ubuntu on both, all works fine, BoxB dual boots ubuntu and xp, when I try to access the net via windows after duplicating eth0 details I cant talk to the net..
[12:31] <Ng> stevejesus: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[12:31] <rob^lt> that .de is dodgy
[12:31] <aftertaf> Ky0tIk:  i getthe same error for locales too.
[12:31] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: tty1 ;-)
[12:31] <rob^lt> .deb
[12:31] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, terminal?
[12:31] <stevejesus> thank you
[12:31] <aftertaf> Ky0tIk:  but they were set and worked, error only since a few days....
[12:31] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: joking :)
[12:31] <stevejesus> and that packages includes mp3?
[12:32] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: I think there is something name 'slider'. I am not sure, but it starts with 's'
[12:32] <robotgeek> wezzer: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[12:32] <gogeta> the resptorys are dragong bad
[12:32] <rob^lt> BlueMat, you need to set the gateway in windows to the ip address of the sharing machine most likey
[12:32] <knewt> anyone got any idea when the breezy dvd will be available?
[12:32] <gogeta> probly me
[12:32] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: If you care to use another desktop environment then use xfce
[12:32] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, before i can use THAT fastest theme, i gotta geekify myself. I'm still a newbie afraid of terminal/tty1
[12:32] <Ng> stevejesus: if you want mp3 support you probably want to install the gstreamer0.8-mad package in synaptic/apt
[12:32] <nightswim> is there a way to manually generate the nvidia.ko instead of using nvidia-config ?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> !tell stevejesus about mp3
[12:32] <Ng> stevejesus: w32codecs tends to mostly be video stuff
[12:32] <aftertaf> !e
[12:32] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 Repo: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary
[12:32] <BlueMat> rob^lt, Yeah I did that, I replicated the data from the ubuntu boot to the windows boot..
[12:32] <stevejesus> with a deb, are there any other flags other than -i i will need?
[12:32] <wezzer> robotgeek: didn't help :/
[12:32] <nightswim> the script somehow is broken here
[12:33] <nightswim> after the upgrade
[12:33] <rob^lt> BlueMat, could be the windows firewall
[12:33] <robotgeek> wezzer: can u do a "ps -ef | grep apt" in a terminal
[12:33] <BlueMat> rob^lt, turned off
[12:33] <anthony> !printer
[12:33] <ubotu> hmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:33] <Ng> stevejesus: nope :)
[12:33] <morten> under the breezy upgrade i got some problems, is there anyone that can help me?
[12:33] <gogeta> is the updates just being slow or is it me
[12:33] <wezzer> robotgeek: antti    13136 13083  0 13:33 pts/2    00:00:00 grep apt
[12:33] <rob^lt> BlueMat, can you ping google.com from the xp box?
[12:33] <bigfoot1> guys, I had opera installed in my hoary days, but after upgrading opera (as it is in my drawer) can't work. When I click on the icon/shortcut, a dialog window says: "Cannot Launch Icon:
[12:33] <bigfoot1> Details: Failed to execute child process "opera" (No such file or directory)" What's wrong. Please help ubuntu newbiedummy.
[12:33] <wezzer> robotgeek:  or should I do it as root?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> gogeta: the servers are heavily swamped
[12:34] <onkarshinde> I just realised that I have been using wrong mirror to download packages. Now my download speed has improved 4 times.
[12:34] <robotgeek> wezzer: so, yeah..no apt running
[12:34] <BlueMat> rob^lt, nope host unreachable
[12:34] <MaTaKs> why is that every 20 or 30 minutes my connection stopped
[12:34] <bigfoot1> I can't launch skype neither.
[12:34] <gogeta> try disabling ipv6
[12:34] <gogeta> some isps whont send out ips in that mode
[12:34] <stevejesus> the command is dkpg?
[12:34] <avinoam> anyone know what package i need to play dvds?
[12:34] <robotgeek> wezzer: what's the exact error message?
[12:34] <anthony> Is xine player better than mplayer?
[12:35] <rob^lt> BlueMat, sounds like a config problem on your xp box
[12:35] <avinoam> on breezy
[12:35] <MaTaKs> why is that every 20 or 30 minutes my connection stopped
[12:35] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: You don't need any other option.
[12:35] <rob^lt> BlueMat, can you ping the gateway?
[12:35] <robotgeek> wezzer: the apt-get command needs to be preceded by a sudo
[12:35] <BlueMat> rob^lt, maybe i should just nuke it ;-)
[12:35] <onkarshinde> avinoam: Read following.
[12:35] <stevejesus> dkpg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[12:35] <onkarshinde> !restricted
[12:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:35] <stevejesus> whats wrong with this picture
[12:35] <stevejesus> ?
[12:35] <BlueMat> rob^lt, nope cant ping gateway
[12:35] <morten> in the breezy i did get a question about closing KDM that i answered yes on, and noe nothing works... someone that can help?
[12:35] <MaTaKs> why is that every 20 or 30 minutes my internet connection stopped
[12:35] <Ng> stevejesus: you may want to use sudo :)
[12:35] <avinoam> !restricted
[12:35] <stevejesus> i did.
[12:36] <rob^lt> BlueMat, can you ping the ip of the nic in the xp box from the xp box?
[12:36] <bigfoot1> anybody here use skype or opera? if you do please say my name.
[12:36] <avinoam> huh?
[12:36] <ompaul> stevejesus,  sudo dkpg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[12:36] <xmaster> hey
[12:36] <MaTaKs> anyone?
[12:36] <robotgeek> morten: to restart kdm, try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[12:36] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: Is it correct package for breezy?
[12:36] <wezzer> robotgeek: Yes, I run command as a root, here is the error:
[12:36] <wezzer> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:36] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: opera, sometimes
[12:36] <wezzer> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:36] <stevejesus> im using hoary
[12:36] <onkarshinde> avinoam: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:36] <ompaul> MaTaKs, bad provider, bad telecoms, bad ethernet card
[12:36] <BlueMat> rob^lt, ill have to try when I get home, pain in the ass..thanks for your help
[12:36] <bigfoot1> robotgeek, okay. So did you have it installed in your hoary days?
[12:36] <xmaster> i want to connect as/400 from linux
[12:36] <rob^lt> np
[12:36] <stevejesus> please be gentle.  im an rpm guy
[12:36] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: most likely the libraries breezy installed are no longer compatible with skype and opera
[12:36] <xmaster> how i get a connection
[12:36] <stevejesus> command not found?
[12:37] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: Try 'dpkg --install' (although it is same) instead
[12:37] <stevejesus> is it not in my path?
[12:37] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i see. So what must i do? Is it a matter of just removing these "shortcuts/icons" from my drawer?
[12:37] <rob^lt> stevejesus, heh debian will spoil you and you'll never go back :)
[12:37] <gogeta> humm
[12:37] <MaTaKs> no, i try to connect on my windows box  but it works fine
[12:37] <gogeta> real player didnt dl
[12:37] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: Can you tell what command you used exactly?
[12:37] <gogeta> yea apt is relly mesed up
[12:37] <stevejesus> hahaha
[12:37] <robotgeek> wezzer: hmm.,i got the same error a couple of days ago. try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[12:37] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, is there a way to have ubuntu automatically remove all files/packages/stuff that are no longer compatible with breezy, such as opera and skype?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: well, I guess you can do that - or remove the apps completely
[12:37] <Kleggas> not just apt, the whole breezy is meesed up
[12:37] <stevejesus> i didnt spell it right
[12:37] <ompaul> stevejesus, and the typo was where?
[12:37] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: nope, i've been on breezy for a while now
[12:37] <stevejesus> i put dkpg
[12:37] <avinoam> my libdvdread3 is already up to date
[12:37] <avinoam> i don't get it
[12:37] <stevejesus> not dpkg
[12:38] <variant> lo guys, Im just reading that press release about ubuntu 5.10, looks exiting
[12:38] <stevejesus> im silly
[12:38] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if you used debs to install them, you can probably uninstall
[12:38] <wezzer> robotgeek: that helped, thanks a lot
[12:38] <xmaster> hey everbody i need  help
[12:38] <morten> robotgeek, it doesent start...
[12:38] <xmaster> pls
[12:38] <ompaul> stevejesus, theres no deprecation like self deprecation
[12:38] <stevejesus> yup
[12:38] <avinoam> i have all other codecs set up besides for dvd
[12:38] <robotgeek> morten: are you on a X session
[12:38] <stevejesus> now for amarok
[12:38] <ompaul> stevejesus, be nice to yourself
[12:38] <xmaster> whcih program can i use to connect as/400
[12:39] <stevejesus> this one will take quite sometime as it requires all sorts of kde goodness:)
[12:39] <morten> robotgeek, no x does not start..
[12:39] <variant> Does Edubuntu use gnome or kde? (please say gnome)
[12:39] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: Don't you like any other thing than amarok?
[12:39] <twoknee> guys i had to set up my breezy with just a /boot, swap, and / and i might be running a business on it.  i have a dvd burner and can network to my fathers wireless desktop i think and store data there.  i guess i'm wondering if ubuntu is easily broken where i can't backup my files
[12:39] <robotgeek> morten: are you in a terminal? try startx and see if x starts?
[12:39] <MaTaKs> how to automatically starts firewall on boot, im using firestarter
[12:39] <onkarshinde> variant: It uses GNOME. But has quite a few KDE packages.
[12:40] <robotgeek> stevejesus: amarok is 10/10, seriously!
[12:40] <variant> onkarshinde: that sounds perfect
[12:40] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  set it to active, it will start auto
[12:40] <Kleggas> anyone else noticed how extremely slow DRI is in breezy's xorg? I didn't have 3d-acceleration in hoary but still could play condition-zero and other opengl games. added 3d-support and got more fps....but in breezy I can't play anything without lagging, and when adding acceleration it still lags. whats wrong with ubuntu?
[12:40] <MaTaKs> aftertaf:  how?
[12:40] <Kleggas> sorry, breezy
[12:40] <morten> robotgeek: command startx: command not found
[12:40] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error how can I fix it... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3068
[12:40] <onkarshinde> variant: I think Edubuntu is not final yet.
[12:40] <stevejesus> well, over the last few years i have tried many different jukebox's.  i had always disliked amarok.  until recently.  the entiresoftware has changed.  its one hell of a box
[12:40] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  its a frontend for iptables, kernel builtin firewall protection.
[12:40] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i got the opera from a deb, but i forgot how i got skype on my system. Is there a way to check how i got skype, so that i can uninstall it?
[12:41] <rca> any ideas why my Evolution no longer sees its INBOX after upgrading to breezy? it's on an UW IMAP server, worked before the upgrade. i tried deleting ~/.evolution and making a new profile, still the same :(
[12:41] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: try dkpg -l opera and dpkg -l skype
[12:41] <rca> other mail clients still work
[12:41] <robotgeek> morten: that's weird, cause startx is supposed to be there
[12:41] <avinoam> do i need to mount the dvd?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: ii means installed
[12:41] <noodle> just a simple question, if i install ubuntu, then reinstall windows, i can fix the bootloader easily to rerecognize ubuntu right?
[12:41] <Peps> anyone can help me setup an external monitor for a laptop? The laptop is wide screen - the external monitor is not ....
[12:41] <sorush20> why can't I fomat my floppy
[12:41] <MaTaKs> aftertaf: dude there's no active option here
[12:42] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, where should i look for the "ii"?
[12:42] <johntramp> I am having a problem getting ubuntu to boot.  Grub is loaded at boot and loads the manu.1st file fine, but then when I try boot ubuntu I get an error 22:  no such partition
[12:42] <rob^lt> noodle, it will do it automatically
[12:42] <robotgeek> noodle: it's better to install windows first
[12:42] <onkarshinde> sorush20: what kind of floppy. Most probably because its sector zero is bad
[12:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: or just do sudo apt-get remove skype and see if it errors :)
[12:42] <johntramp> I can't see anything wrong with the config file\
[12:42] <variant> onkarshinde: it doesnt come with the rest of KDE?
[12:42] <variant> onkarshinde: just the edu packages?
[12:42] <sorush20> I keep getting this error.. can not access dev/fd0u1044
[12:42] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  'enable' firestarter.....   if you're firewall is active, it will remain so, and automatically be up on boot.
[12:42] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, "sudo: dkpg: command not found
[12:42] <bigfoot1> "
[12:42] <stevejesus> no offense but...
[12:42] <onkarshinde> variant: I don't know
[12:42] <johntramp> I am wondering if there is any trick to get grub to boot a sata drive?
[12:42] <rob^lt> noodle, oh, yeah, but you will have to reinstall grub
[12:42] <variant> onkarshinde: np
[12:42] <bimberi> noodle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:42] <stevejesus> why does everyone in the linux community use irc?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: typo
[12:42] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: dpkg
[12:42] <noodle> robotgeek: windows is already installed but i want to reinstall it after ubuntu ><
[12:42] <variant> stevejesus: they dont
[12:42] <aftertaf> lol stevejesus
[12:42] <bigfoot1> robotgeek, thanks.
[12:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: dpkg
[12:43] <noodle> bimberi: ah ok thx
[12:43] <variant> stevejesus: i know many linux uesrs that hate irc
[12:43] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, thanks. i'm so linux-dumb
[12:43] <bimberi> noodle: yw :)
[12:43] <stevejesus> i mean, for forums like this
[12:43] <MaTaKs> aftertaf:  my firewall is active, but i cant see it on the tray..
[12:43] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: It is fastest way to get and provide help
[12:43] <sorush20> onkarshinde: could you help.. I can read an browse the floppy but can't format it..
[12:43] <morten> robotgeek:yes, but something went wrong under the dist-upgrade
[12:43] <BockBilbo> what was the command for making tar.bz2 files?
[12:43] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  you wont
[12:43] <noodle> damn there's a wiki for everything now -_-
[12:43] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: think d-package :)
[12:43] <MaTaKs> ok
[12:43] <aftertaf> !linuxnotwindows
[12:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, linuxnotwindows is http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:43] <sgbirch> variant: what do they prefer to irc?
[12:43] <onkarshinde> sorush20: What are you using for floppy format?
[12:43] <MaTaKs> so it's running?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: hence dpkg
[12:43] <stevejesus> not really.  its sort of overwhelming to someone not familiar with it
[12:43] <aftertaf> !tell MaTaKs about linuxnotwindows
[12:43] <MaTaKs> even if i can't see t on the tray
[12:43] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I'm using kfloppy fomrat
[12:43] <variant> sgbirch: mailing lists and new groups
[12:43] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  yes :)
[12:44] <cjhcjhcjh> just downloaded RealPlayer10GOLD.bin, how do I run it? I did chmod +x and have tried to run it thru the window, also in a terminal screen, nothing happens. And why is it green?
[12:44] <onkarshinde> sorush20: Are you on Kubuntu?
[12:44] <MaTaKs> ok
[12:44] <elitist_phoenix1> hey guys need a bit of help. I can't seem to get a network up, I don't think it autodetected my card (but I know there is a module in the kernel package). How should I start, tried ifconfig but if wasn't there.
[12:44] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  try pinging google.com
[12:44] <robotgeek> morten: try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop package again
[12:44] <MaTaKs> no wonder.. now i get it
[12:44] <MaTaKs> ok
[12:44] <onkarshinde> !info gfloppy
[12:44] <variant> sgbirch: i can see their point tbh, you never get work done in irc :P
[12:44] <aftertaf> ;)
[12:44] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i did that dpkg command you gave me, on the left-hand column in the output, to the left of  opera and skype are the letters "rc", and NOT "ii".
[12:44] <morten> robotgeek:how do i do that?
[12:44] <robotgeek> cjhcjhcjh: i think you need a chmod a+x
[12:44] <Peps> anyone can help me setup an external monitor for a laptop? The laptop is wide screen - the external monitor is not ....
[12:44] <variant> wow, busy channel.. soon to compete with #gentoo i suspect
[12:44] <stevejesus> oh my sweet amarok is on its way back.
[12:44] <robotgeek> morten: apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <MaTaKs> aftertaf:  im done pinging google.. what now
[12:44] <sorush20> onkarshinde: yes..
[12:45] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: that means "residual configuration"
[12:45] <ompaul> variant, no, we don't have the compile issues :)
[12:45] <stevejesus> i am pretty confident in this distro so far.  i think it may be time to move the home dir over to this box
[12:45] <robotgeek> variant: i believe it's a lot nicer :)
[12:45] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, so what does that mean and what must i do now, sir?
[12:45] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  as a test. block pings and you'lno longer eb able to ;)
[12:45] <MaTaKs> how to block pings?
[12:45] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, actually , you don't have to tell me what it means, if you want to save yourself from typing.
[12:45] <sorush20> onkarshinde: it dosent' even check for the floppy..
[12:45] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: in other words the system doesn't know what to do about it - but try  " sudo apt-get remove skype "
[12:45] <onkarshinde> sorush20: You may not be able to format the floppy if it is mounted already. Try unmounting it and format/ Normally floppy drive is /dev/fd0
[12:45] <JDigital> what is skype
[12:45] <robotgeek> morten: it might take a while
[12:46] <variant> robotgeek: whats a lot niceer?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> JDigital: voice over IP app
[12:46] <robotgeek> variant: #ubuntu
[12:46] <variant> JDigital: internet telephone
[12:46] <onkarshinde> JDigital: VoIP program.
[12:46] <variant> robotgeek: #gentoo does have excelent users though..
[12:46] <JDigital> it sounds like a laser sound effect
[12:46] <JDigital> VOIP
[12:46] <thoreauputic> JDigital: closed source
[12:46] <variant> robotgeek: im sure this channel does too
[12:46] <cjhcjhcjh> hmm...I tried chmod a+x but it still wont run...says "command not found"...I am trying as root.
[12:46] <variant> JDigital: its non Free software
[12:46] <robotgeek> variant: yeah, it does
[12:47] <ompaul> variant, who do not know how to do things the .deb way just as I could not emerge anything for myself
[12:47] <onkarshinde> I am really waiting for GAIM 2.0 which will support GTalk voice service.
[12:47] <robotgeek> cjhcjhcjh: chmod a+x RealPlayerWhatever.bin
[12:47] <aftertaf> hmmmm. will it now?
[12:47] <morten> robotgeek: i get an message, with a list of many programs, an depends..
[12:47] <JDigital> It will?
[12:47] <sorush20> I don't have the format commad!
[12:47] <stevejesus> you can use google talk with it now actually
[12:47] <variant> ompaul: emerge is easyer than .deb packages :P but im not gonna start trolling
[12:47] <stevejesus> its just jabber
[12:47] <ompaul> variant, kewl :)
[12:47] <JDigital> Yes, but you can't do the voice
[12:47] <thoreauputic> variant: glad to hear that
[12:47] <robotgeek> morten: but the packages are probably already in the archives, so it won't take that much time
[12:47] <aftertaf> stevejesus:  voice?
[12:47] <onkarshinde> stevejesus: but not voice service.
[12:47] <stevejesus> also, i have used it in kopete, however it crashes it constantly
[12:48] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i did "sudo apt-get remove skype" and i got a message saying that skype is not installed. http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3069
[12:48] <JDigital> I want GAIM to support the webcams for hot hot webcam axxion
[12:48] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I don't have the format command and I can't find it.. in synaptic.. I have installed kfloppy but the termianl format command is not found..
[12:48] <stevejesus> oh. i see
[12:48] <fabian_> pitti: hi
[12:48] <cjhcjhcjh> robotgeek, I did that. its rwxr-xr-x...but TAB doesnt complete the name of it...as tho its not executable...do I have to quit X to run it, maybe???
[12:48] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: that isn't really surprising
[12:48] <onkarshinde> sorush20: terminal format command is 'fdformat'
[12:48] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, so why the rc?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: the system doesn't know about it
[12:48] <morten> robotgeek: it does not begin to reinstall, i get an error or something
[12:48] <robotgeek> cjhcjhcjh: no, you don't need to quit x to install it
[12:49] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: oh Isee - well the config files are left behind
[12:49] <aftertaf> tab auto dont work with sudo
[12:49] <stevejesus> well, time for some nintendo while my 13 billiob deps are gathered and install
[12:49] <stevejesus> ed*
[12:49] <variant> thoreauputic: Im interested in edubuntu, my brother is a teacher in shetland and he is big into FreeSoftware just like me.. the computer lab at his school has just been "upgraded" with new windowsxp computers though and he would be in big trouble if he installed linux.. so he is using knoppix right now.
[12:49] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, why did it keep the config files? Do i need them?
[12:49] <robotgeek> morten: what error does it give you?
[12:49] <Skid> hmm, ever since I upgraded to breezy my wifi network card (cisco aironet 350) doesn't seemto work when it boots up.  i can't get it to get an ip address from the dhcp server - anyone have any ideas?
[12:49] <Skid> I did an upgrade, not fresh install
[12:49] <variant> thoreauputic: I dont think he knows about edubuntu so im gonna check it out and tell him
[12:49] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: what happens if you type  sudo apt-get install skype ?
[12:49] <dooglus> where should bugs be reported now?  launchpad or bugzilla?
[12:49] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Launch Synaptic. And press status button. You shouls see something as (residual config).
[12:50] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, okay will try it now.
[12:50] <stevejesus> review your iwconfig setup??
[12:50] <morten> robotgeek: depends *** but it is not going to be installed
[12:50] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: config files are preserved supposing atht you will install it again.
[12:50] <rjordan> So who knows why my 2x200G seagates are showing up as 134G each?
[12:50] <robotgeek> morten: hmm..broken dependencies. apt-get -f install
[12:50] <JDigital> How much temporary free space does it require to upgrade to Breezy?
[12:50] <variant> I hope your not gonna slap me for this.. but I was thinking of installing portage on ubuntu..
[12:50] <onkarshinde> dooglus: bugzilla
[12:50] <robotgeek> dooglus: bugzilla
[12:50] <cjhcjhcjh> so in the terminal window I have su"d, I can see RealPlayer10GOLD.bin, its green for some reason, and TAB doesn:t complete it. It is rwxr-xr-x...if I type the name myself it says "comamnd not found"
[12:51] <aftertaf> cjhcjhcjh:  sh before it
[12:51] <robotgeek> cjhcjhcjh: you have to ./Real
[12:51] <aftertaf> that or :)
[12:51] <robotgeek> aftertaf: :)
[12:51] <aftertaf> hehe
[12:51] <onkarshinde> cjhcjhcjh: Try ./commandname
[12:51] <dooglus> I see that bugzilla is still being used, but I thought I read somewhere offical that we're using launchpad now...
[12:51] <johntramp> Q:  Is there any trick to get grub to boot a SATA drive?
[12:51] <morten> robotgeek: now it is downloading :)
[12:51] <aftertaf> ./autogen && make install && ldconfig   <-- my most used cmd line of the week
[12:51] <robotgeek> morten: cool
[12:51] <variant> johntramp: no, it should boot just the same as a normal ATA disk
[12:51] <onkarshinde> dooglus: Launchpad is for translation
[12:51] <cjhcjhcjh> ah, course, my bad...long time since I used linux, forgot that current dir isnt in path!
[12:52] <thoreauputic> dooglus: on the dev list they say the migration will be after dapper IIRC
[12:52] <johntramp> variant, hmmm ok
[12:52] <ompaul> rjordan, do this >>sudo fdisk -l << and paste output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl and maybe we can see
[12:52] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, rshinde, in synaptic/status/"Not installed (residual config)", there are very many packages listed!!! WHat should I do? Why didn't ubuntu breezy assume that i want to use these programs again and matically get these packages for me in breezy?
[12:52] <variant> johntramp: SATA is very well supported under linux
[12:52] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Why do you need it at all in Ubuntu?
[12:52] <BockBilbo> !bz2
[12:52] <ubotu> BockBilbo: I don't know
[12:52] <robotgeek> dooglus: you can still file bugs in launchpad, but it's got better visiblity on bugzilla
[12:52] <cjhcjhcjh> ...err "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:52] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: because they aren't part of Ubuntu
[12:52] <dooglus> https://launchpad.net/ says "The Ubuntu Distribution : [...]  The project uses the Launchpad for all translation and bug tracking."
[12:52] <sorush20> onkarshinde: its formatting but I don't know what file type it is formatting to? DOS or ext2?
[12:52] <rjordan> ompaul, that's the thing, I don't have an OS installed on it yet.
[12:52] <dooglus> *all bug tracking*...
[12:52] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: they are both closed source/ unfree packages
[12:53] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  because i am playing with fire and using a wicked WM
[12:53] <onkarshinde> cjhcjhcjh: Why don't you instead try installing Helix player?
[12:53] <variant> Is edubuntu a live cd?
[12:53] <johntramp> variant, I am getting an error 22 (no such partition) and I can see nothing wrong with my menu.1st
[12:53] <dooglus> maybe I should file in both places?
[12:53] <BockBilbo> thoreauputic, whats the commando to create tar.bz2 files? tar -cjf ?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> dooglus: launchpad for universe , currently bugzilla for main
[12:53] <ompaul> rjordan, well if its saying that, are the disks formatted already with data on it - try a live CD and see what that tells you
[12:53] <onkarshinde> sorush20: Normally it will format to dos
[12:53] <dooglus> tar tfj
[12:53] <robotgeek> dooglus: yeah, and mention the other in one place
[12:53] <gogeta> sorush ext3 is defalt
[12:53] <variant> johntramp: sorry I dont know.. google for the exact error
[12:53] <Ng> cjhcjhcjh: install stdlibc++6
[12:53] <bimberi> bigfoot1: by the looks of that pastebin output you need to stop postfix (sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop) - "fatal: the Postfix mail system is already running"
[12:53] <sorush20> how can I run scandisk on floppy..  onkarshinde
[12:53] <aftertaf> variant:  i think there is one, yeah.
[12:53] <Ng> onkarshinde: the helix player doesn't have real codecs though
[12:53] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: looks right yes
[12:53] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  E
[12:53] <gogeta> you can change it to whatever you whant
[12:53] <dooglus> tar cfj <tarfile> <source> ...
[12:53] <onkarshinde> variant: I don't think so.
[12:54] <rjordan> ompaul, any ideas?
[12:54] <cjhcjhcjh> Ng sorry to be such a n00b, but...how?
[12:54] <Ng> cjhcjhcjh: sorry, make that ++5
[12:54] <BockBilbo> thanks thoreauputic
[12:54] <avalente> is there anything like BizUbuntu? as in Edubuntu..
[12:54] <Ng> cjhcjhcjh: either "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5" in a terminal, or search for it in synaptic
[12:54] <ompaul> rjordan, ubuntu live CD or somthing that you find on the outside of a mag
[12:54] <dooglus> ever seen gnome-terminal hang and eat all available CPU?
[12:55] <variant> onkarshinde: I wonder how hard it would be to build a live cd out of it
[12:55] <gogeta> rjordan use manual partation
[12:55] <onkarshinde> sorush20: I think fsck is anologous for scandisk in linux
[12:55] <robotgeek> dooglus: i stopped using gnome-terminal long time ago, i use rxvt-unicode!
[12:55] <bigfoot1> bimberi, thank you for taking the time to read my pastebin output. THat's very kind of you. Will doing a stop on postfix be a good solution? or is it just a tempory solution, like putting a bandage on deadly scar?
[12:55] <gogeta> rjodan tell it to format whatever partation your using nativ linux i assume it will work then
[12:55] <onkarshinde> variant: Constructing live CDs is not that hard. But why would you want that?
[12:55] <Elitism_Phoenix> hey could someone give me some help setting up my network?
[12:56] <BockBilbo> thoreauputic, i cant get  "tar -cjf directory/ compressed_file.tar.bz2 " to work...
[12:56] <aftertaf> onfire_nux:
[12:56] <BockBilbo> is it just for files and not directories?
[12:56] <sorush20> onkarshinde: so I should type fsck /dev/fd0
[12:56] <aftertaf> onfire_nux:  sorry, my error.....
[12:56] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: wrong order of arguments
[12:56] <BockBilbo> oh
[12:56] <BockBilbo> so cfj
[12:56] <BockBilbo> right?
[12:56] <Davey> OK, who stole my Nautilus address bar? :/
[12:56] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: no
[12:56] <variant> onkarshinde: my bro is a computing teacher he is not allowd to mess witht hte workstations though so his pupils are forced to use winxp
[12:56] <reiki> ok it's asking me about login.defs and do I want to keep my current ones and it's not real explicit about what the implications are..should I just keep my current ones ?
[12:56] <rjordan> ompaul, gogeta, ty I'll try
[12:56] <variant> onkarshinde: a live cd would be idea
[12:56] <bigfoot1> bimberi,  what about lines 63 and onwards (http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3069)?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo:  file.tar.bz2 directory/
[12:56] <onkarshinde> sorush20: Should work if command is right. In fact 'sudo fsck /dev/fdo' is more correct.
[12:56] <BockBilbo> lol
[12:57] <ompaul> rjordan, ubuntu live CD or somthing that you find on the outside of a mag to talk about what I wanted - for what you wanted well I would set up 20G for / and 100 for /home and then when the box was up and running I would tackle that space and maybe use it for isos and such like
[12:57] <BockBilbo> :)
[12:57] <BockBilbo> thanks thoreauputic
[12:57] <Zapata> Hello! Im setting up a Linux Server, what Ubinti version should i use?
[12:57] <Zapata> Ubuntu!
[12:57] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: that gets me sometimes too :)
[12:57] <MaTaKs> how to delete folder using terminal
[12:57] <aftertaf> Zapata:  latest.
[12:57] <anthony> What does the error "sh: gcc: command not found
[12:57] <anthony> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)" mean? Am I missing certain packages?
[12:57] <onkarshinde> Zapata: 5.10 (latest)
[12:57] <BockBilbo> :) thanks thoreauputic
[12:57] <Peps> anyone can help me setup an external monitor for a laptop? The laptop is wide screen - the external monitor is not ....
[12:57] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I keep getting the message that it couldn't find the ext2 file system.. how can I fix this..
[12:57] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: rmdir if empty, rm -r if not
[12:57] <Zapata> Is ther a server version?
[12:57] <Davey> Hey, btw, I thought Breezy was to have a bootsplash? What happened to that?
[12:58] <onkarshinde> anthony: Have you installed gcc?
[12:58] <aftertaf> Zapata:  all can be server versions
[12:58] <robotgeek> Zapata: you can do a server install
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Zapata: there's a server option for the install
[12:58] <MaTaKs> thoreauputic: its not empty. whats the exact command?
[12:58] <BockBilbo> thoreauputic, by the way, does breezy use any firewall by default? (iptables?)
[12:58] <onkarshinde> sorush20: Beyond my understanding.
[12:58] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic,  i tried  sudo apt-get install skype and got error. please cf http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3070
[12:58] <aftertaf> Zapata:  you have a server install option at boot from cd, to avoid installing unneccesary stuff
[12:58] <robotgeek> anthony: try apt-get install build-essential
[12:58] <bimberi> bigfoot1: i think the other packages are dependant on postfix being configured.  I had this earlier and got around it by stopping postfix and then running "apt-get -f install"
[12:58] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: rm -r folder name
[12:58] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  libqt?
[12:58] <ian> Trying to update a Win98 Sony Viao with no working bootable devices using loadlin....
[12:58] <Knorrie> why doesn't http://www.getubuntu.com/ exist?
[12:58] <anthony> onkarshinde and robotgeek: Okay, I'll give those a try, thanks.
[12:58] <MaTaKs> thoreauputic: ok thnx
[12:58] <Zapata> ok, good, thanks
[12:59] <sorush20> how do I change my change my display manager sudo dpkg reconfigure-dm
[12:59] <maswan> Knorrie: why should it exist?
[12:59] <bigfoot1> bimberi, okay. what's postfix anyway? and why do we have this problem? Did the developers forget to fix this or something?
[12:59] <bigfoot1> aftertaf, what's libqt for+
[12:59] <Knorrie> maswan: ah, here :) http://www.spreadubuntu.org/
[12:59] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:59] <ian> "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root...."
[12:59] <robotgeek> sorush20: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:59] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Are you already running synaptic? close it.
[12:59] <bimberi> bigfoot1: it's the mail transport agent (MTA)
[12:59] <thoreauputic> Elitism_Phoenix: please ak questions in channel - people are kind of busy
[12:59] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, i closed it.
[12:59] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  a guess of your skype prbem
[12:59] <MaTaKs> thoreauputic:  dude but its lock protected.. how can i unlocked the folder?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> !tell Elitism_Phoenix about msg
[01:00] <MaTaKs> never mind i got it
[01:00] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: You will need to install it using 'sudo dpkg --install skypefile.deb'
[01:00] <kapul> hi
[01:00] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: what are you tryin to delete? There's probably  a good reason for that
[01:00] <bigfoot1> bimberi, will the stop of postfix be permanent? Do i want it to be permanent?
[01:00] <bimberi> bigfoot1: yes it could be a bug :/
[01:00] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Because skype is not included in any repos, apt-get doesn't know it.
[01:00] <zerologic> hello all
[01:00] <bimberi> bigfoot1: no, it's only temporary
[01:00] <robotgeek> bimberi: it doesn't really matter unless u run a mail server
[01:00] <T0aD> lo all
[01:01] <muco> does ubuntu fair better than mandriva
[01:01] <robotgeek> bimberi: sorry, tab completion error
[01:01] <Skid> anyone have any problems with pcmcia wifi nics, after upgrading to breezY? mine doesnt' get an ip from the dhcp server anymore
[01:01] <bigfoot1> bimberi, so no need to restart it again?
[01:01] <sorush20> what does it mean when data verification on a floppy fails ?
[01:01] <T0aD> i need someone to tell me what Im supposed to have in directory /etc/X11/kbd/compiled
[01:01] <JDigital> Hey, is there a manual for Ubuntu or Linux or what?
[01:01] <onkarshinde> muco: Yes if you love GNOME
[01:01] <MaTaKs> how to delete file using terminal?
[01:01] <reiki> I get many warnings during upgrade about unable to set locale...looks like something with perl... should I be concerned?
[01:01] <kapul> after dist-upgrade to breez i cannot turn on xterm with black background (xterm -rv), why??
[01:01] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: it doesn't really matter unless u run a mail server, i have mine not to start
[01:01] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: you didn't bother to answer me
[01:01] <bigfoot1> bimberi, you're cool, I just ran apt-get -f install, and no more error messages!!!
[01:01] <JDigital> There has to be a better way to learn things without asking people on IRC all the time
[01:01] <bimberi> bigfoot1: no, i think the postfix configuration step, once successful, will restart
[01:01] <muco> kde onkarshinde
[01:02] <svizzero> anyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?
[01:02] <MaTaKs> that was folder you told me, now im asking for file
[01:02] <bigfoot1> robotgeek, i have no mail server on my computer i think. I mean, I do have email, but that's with gmail. My pc is just a regular home pc.
[01:02] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: the permissions are there for a reason
[01:02] <robotgeek> JDigital: man <foo>
[01:02] <onkarshinde> muco: Then you must go for KUbuntu. But I don't know how it is good than mandriva.
[01:02] <bimberi> bigfoot1: in this case i just happen to have had a similar experience :)
[01:02] <morten> robotgeek: errors were encountered while processing: postfix lsb-core lsb-graphics lsb-cxx lsb E sub process /etc/bin/dpkg returned with an error code (1)
[01:02] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: type  man rm   and read
[01:03] <JDigital> The manpage only helps if you know what program you need.
[01:03] <MaTaKs> ok
[01:03] <bigfoot1> bimberi, but i wonder if it's just you and me. I bet many people have this problem. What do you reckon+
[01:03] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:03] <sorush20> kfloppy format fails but gnome doesn't ?!!!
[01:03] <Sarkie> #pearpc
[01:03] <Sarkie> oops
[01:03] <Sarkie> sorry
[01:03] <knewt> anyone got any idea when the breezy dvd will be available?
[01:03] <JDigital> I'm talking about more along the lines of a beginner's manual book. An "Ubuntu For Dummies" kind of affair.
[01:03] <svizzero> anyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?
[01:03] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: yeah, if you want you can stop it from starting "sudo update-rc.d remove /etc/init.d/postfix"
[01:03] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: I suggest you bookmark http://tuxfiles.org as well :)
[01:03] <kaptaink> is there any root terminal in breezy?
[01:03] <bimberi> morten, try "sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop", then retry what you were doing
[01:04] <thoreauputic> kaptaink: just type  sudo -i and give your password
[01:04] <kaptaink> ok
[01:04] <reiki> sorry..asking again as I keep seeing this while I'm upgrading...
[01:04] <reiki> I get many warnings during upgrade about unable to set locale...looks like something with perl... should I be concerned?
[01:04] <bimberi> bigfoot1 (robotgeek): i don't think you need to stop postfix from starting now that it has been successfully configured
[01:04] <thoreauputic> reiki: only if th upgrade fails ;)
[01:04] <reiki> funny... heheh
[01:04] <reiki> :)
[01:05] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: it's sudo update-rc.d  /etc/init.d/postfix remove
[01:05] <bimberi> reiki: i got those messages too, they stop once the locales package gets reconfigured
[01:05] <thoreauputic> reiki: if you use a non-enghlish language you may need to install language packs
[01:05] <robotgeek> bimberi: it serves no useful purpose
[01:05] <avalente> is there anything like BizUbuntu? as in Edubuntu..
[01:05] <stevejesus> ahhh.  they dont have amarok 1.3 in the repos for hoary.  one more reason to upgrade
[01:05] <robotgeek> stevejesus: :)
[01:05] <bimberi> robotgeek: ok
[01:05] <Sarkie> What are the packages for help, since Yelp is empty
[01:05] <kaptaink> sorry, one more question, where do i access GrubConf?
[01:05] <bigfoot1> so guys, how can i install skype on breezy? I had it on hoary, but I guess it's against OSS rules to have them automatically upgraded.
[01:05] <robotgeek> stevejesus: they have got you suckered!
[01:05] <svizzero> anyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> kaptaink: erm - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:06] <bimberi> avalente: i reckon ubuntu itself is good for bizubuntu :)
[01:06] <bigfoot1> when i say install skype, i mean RE-install skype.
[01:06] <robotgeek> svizzero: isn't that done automatically?
[01:06] <reiki> didn't it set locale right at the beginning when I chose us english?
[01:06] <bimberi> bigfoot1: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:06] <kaptaink> i want the graphical version though
[01:06] <kaptaink> i heard its included with breezy
[01:07] <robotgeek> svizzero: you can symlink /usr/bin/java to <sun java>
[01:07] <stevejesus> ah oh well.  its alomst the same.  once i get everything working the way i like, ill do a distro-upgrade.  boy that type of stuff opens up a serious can o worms in fc
[01:07] <avalente> bimberi: but anything specific.. as we have edubuntu
[01:07] <talios> svizzero, update-alternatives --config java
[01:07] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: it isn't about rules - those packages are simply not in the repos so you have to get them elsewhere
[01:07] <piero> hi for all, guys and lady..;)
[01:07] <julo> hi
[01:07] <bimberi> avalente: not as far as i know
[01:07] <robotgeek> svizzero: do what talios says,it's better
[01:07] <bigfoot1> bimberi, i went to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/, but nothing is appearing. or maybe i should just wait. what's at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/?
[01:07] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: although it's doubtful they ever will be because of licensing
[01:07] <Seveas> bigfoot1, what are you looking for?
[01:08] <julo> Please could anyone tell me wether gnome-cups-manager works correctly (able too add a printer) on a freshly installed breezy ?
[01:08] <Seveas> (yes the index pages of my repo are offline)
[01:08] <bimberi> bigfoot1: yes, i just tried it too
[01:08] <sobersabre> where can I get a skype of the latest version for breezy ?
[01:08] <tck> anyone run breexy with kismet and an orinoco card ?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> Seveas: he wants skype and opera
[01:08] <ian> Looking for help with a windowa installation of ubuntu - using loadlin....getting "error unable to mount root fs..."
[01:08] <Seveas> opera -> get the debian sid version
[01:08] <bigfoot1> Seveas, bimberi sent me that link.  LEt's ask him. bimberi: why'd you send me that link?
[01:08] <bimberi> Seveas: i pointed bigfoot1 there for skype for breezy
[01:08] <Seveas> breezy -> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras
[01:08] <Seveas> that's for skype
[01:08] <robotgeek> what's wrong with opera from opera.com?
[01:08] <julo> Could anyone try to add a printer using gnome-cups-manager ? On my breezy, I get an error about a missing gnomesu.
[01:09] <Seveas> The debian etch version of opera works fine on breezy
[01:09] <julo> I reported as a bug, but it was closed NOTABUG !?
[01:09] <bigfoot1> Seveas, is that line you gave (deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras) better than just getting the deb file from skype.com+
[01:09] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:09] <sobersabre> Seveas, THANKS...
[01:09] <cjhcjhcjh> I have a bizarre problem with my mouse in X...the system seems to loose track of where the mouse is focused, so e.g. in the browser, when I am clicking in the files area, the places tab in the sidebar is moving. Also left-click stops working. Sometimes r-click fixes it. USB mouse on a laptop with a trackpad...and BTW if I use the trackpad the mouse cursor flies all over the pace and clicks things at random
[01:09] <robotgeek> i guess it is better as the direct bin files throw stuff around, making uninstallation a pain
[01:09] <sumon> hello
[01:09] <BiSK-8> hello
[01:10] <Seveas> bigfoot1, the thing from skype.com has a packaging bug
[01:10] <BiSK-8> how can i check how much ram i have with ubuntu?
[01:10] <sumon> anybody knows how to install the extentions of firefox in ubuntu
[01:10] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i'm interested in fixing my opera too. it was working on hoary, but now it's "Not installed". what is this "debian etch version" that you mentioned?
[01:10] <robotgeek> BiSK-8: free
[01:10] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: free -m
[01:10] <bimberi> bigfoot1: http://packages.debian.org
[01:10] <Seveas> bigfoot1, go to opera.com and select 'debian etch' when downloading
[01:10] <BiSK-8> k thx
[01:11] <bimberi> bigfoot1: but Seveas' advice is better (as usual :P)
[01:11] <sorush20> how do I get rid of an error format track#0
[01:11] <bigfoot1> Seveas, so your site at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl... only contains stuff that the official sources (such as skype.com) have packaging errors for?
[01:11] <cjhcjhcjh> How do I edit a file as root, when logged in as a user?
[01:11] <sumon> anybody knows how to install the extentions of firefox in ubuntu
[01:11] <cjhcjhcjh> in x, BTW
[01:11] <bigfoot1> Seveas, are you on ubuntu staff+
[01:11] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:11] <robotgeek> sorush20: i think that usually means that the floppy's first sector is corrupted
[01:11] <sumon> sudo
[01:11] <sumon> use sudo
[01:11] <thoreauputic> !tell cjhcjhcjh about root
[01:11] <Seveas> bigfoot1, that and thing I improved or created
[01:12] <piero> bye for all, folks!!
[01:12] <robotgeek> sumon: nope, install from firefox Tools -> Extensions
[01:12] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no I'm not, i'm just an enthousiast community member
[01:12] <sorush20> robotgeek: is there a way to fix this issure.?
[01:12] <sumon> robotgeek , it doesn't work
[01:12] <robotgeek> sorush20: it's useless if you want to use it for booting
[01:12] <morten> robotgeek: i still cant reinstall ubumtu-desktop
[01:12] <bigfoot1> Seveas, okay, i just added deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras to my sources.list. now how do i re-install skype?
[01:12] <robotgeek> sumon: what error does it give you?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[01:12] <sumon> robotgeek , its not downloading anything
[01:12] <ubotu> from memory, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[01:13] <Seveas> bigfoot1, apt-get install --reinstall skype
[01:13] <robotgeek> sumon: you would need to go to Tools -> Extensions -> Get more extensions
[01:13] <bigfoot1> Seveas, just curious: what would happen if i type "install" rather than "reinstall"?
[01:13] <bigfoot1> Seveas, would that cause problems?
[01:14] <aftertaf> itd say package already installed.
[01:14] <aftertaf> i think
[01:14] <Seveas> bigfoot1, dunno :)
[01:14] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: no it wouldn't, if the newer version is available
[01:14] <sumon> robotgeek: it says not a valid package
[01:14] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[01:14] <aftertaf> EnsignRedshirt:  are you a programming language?
[01:14] <sorush20> robotgeek: well I can't even mount it to read it in konqueror
[01:14] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if no newer version is available it tells you :)
[01:15] <robotgeek> sorush20: nope, floppy is pretty much useless :(
[01:15] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, it tells me when i run "install" or when i run "reinstall"? Which+
[01:15] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:15] <sorush20> I missed that what did you say
[01:15] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if you run install
[01:15] <robotgeek> sorush20: i said it was useless :(
[01:15] <julo> come on guys ! Could anyone please try to add a printer on Breezy ? I need to know if the printing tool is only broken on my computer. It will take you 5 seconds.
[01:16] <svizzero> anyone knows how to switch to the sun JVM after installing it with dpkg?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if there's a newer version, it just installs it
[01:16] <robotgeek> sorush20: get another floppy
[01:16] <rob^> !java
[01:16] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:16] <EnsignRedshirt> julo: I added a printer yesterday.
[01:16] <Seveas> julo, it works here...
[01:16] <robotgeek> julo: i think if you mentioned what printer you had, ppl could help you
[01:16] <rob^> pfft wtf is that?
[01:16] <reiki> considering the apparent size of the user base and anticipating continued growth, will there be a way in the future to check which servers are being slammed and choose (possibly) a less used one for doing an upgrade like this?
[01:16] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, so what's the use of the "reinstall" parameter then?
[01:16] <svizzero> thx talios
[01:16] <aftertaf> EnsignRedshirt:  :D
[01:16] <sobersabre> julo which stage fails ?
[01:16] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i added your line to my sources list and then did the command you gave. i got error message: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3072
[01:16] <aftertaf> reiki:  send energy to the archive cluster, help it stay up :)
[01:16] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: reinstalls the original package, in case you removed some key files :)
[01:16] <EnsignRedshirt> julo: However, it did not automatically detect the printer.  I had to select "USB Printer #1"
[01:17] <julo> robotgeek, sobersabre: double-clicking on "add printer" fails because gnomesu is missing.
[01:17] <aftertaf> reiki:  or change sources.list to ftp:// :D
[01:17] <stevejesus> goodnight everyone and thank you for your help
[01:17] <reiki> aftertaf: good thought :)
[01:17] <sobersabre> julo... HOW ABOUT INSTALLING IT ?
[01:17] <aftertaf> reiki:  which one? :D
[01:17] <reiki> aftertaf first one hehehe
[01:17] <aftertaf> reiki:  hehe :)
[01:17] <robotgeek> sumon: breezy?
[01:18] <sobersabre> julo, there's another idea: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <rob^> ubotu no java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:18] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[01:18] <Seveas> bigfoot1, apt-get update
[01:18] <aftertaf> reiki:  CKR SHK HSZSN :)
[01:18] <reiki> aftertaf: Dai Ko Myo
[01:18] <julo> sobersabre: well, it should whether be a dependency of gnome-cups-manager, or gnome-cups-manager should be able to do without it. Elese, it's abug that needs resolving.
[01:18] <aftertaf> hehehe
[01:18] <MaTaKs> can i install macromedia fireworks on linux?
[01:19] <EnsignRedshirt> Probably a FAQ: (I was using warty until yesterday.) What happened to the email notification tool that I could add to the top panel in gnome?
[01:19] <gorthaug> hi, in the gnome-applet clock, in the calendar the week start on sunday... how i can chage it for monday??
[01:19] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i got error message after running update. please look at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3073
[01:19] <robotgeek> julo: mostly dependencies are compile based
[01:19] <robotgeek> gorthaug: right click and adjust time :)
[01:19] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  not really, its windows.
[01:20] <thoreauputic_> bigfoot1: sorry, I got disconnected
[01:20] <cjhcjhcjh> (trying to learn about sudo) If I choose Apps, Systools, "Run as a different user" and enter gedit, nothing happens :-(
[01:20] <julo> Thanks anyway, I'll try to find where the bug comes from.
[01:20] <MaTaKs> aftertaf: how bout photoshop?
[01:20] <gorthaug> robotgeek, thid option don't here
[01:20] <aftertaf> !tell MaTaKs about equivalents
[01:20] <_Temujin> Any kernel compilers here?
[01:20] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  gimp
[01:20] <robotgeek> gorthaug: really?? weird
[01:20] <Seveas> bigfoot1, gpg --recv-keys 49A120FD1135D466 && gpg --export --armor 49A120FD1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[01:20] <Seveas> and then apt-get update
[01:20] <MaTaKs> what's gimp?
[01:20] <bigfoot1> seveas, do i run that gpg line into terminal+?
[01:21] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: yup
[01:21] <aftertaf> MaTaKs:  use your internet connection to find information...... it works too :)
[01:21] <_Temujin> I need to compile a module, so I need the breezy kernel source tree.
[01:21] <cjhcjhcjh> MaTaKs, a graphics editor, a bit like photoshop
[01:21] <_Temujin> Where is it?
[01:21] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yup
[01:21] <bimberi> cjhcjhcjh: sudo gedit <file> (from a terminal)
[01:21] <robotgeek> _Temujin: first get sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:21] <guangu23> hello
[01:21] <sumon> robotgeek: not breezy , hoary
[01:22] <guangu23> who can help me
[01:22] <robotgeek> _Temujin: if all you need are kernel headers, that will do.
[01:22] <bigfoot1> Seveas, is your livelihood Linux related, coz you're really smart
[01:22] <gorthaug> robotgeek, see here http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/3074
[01:22] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone?  What happened to the little tool bar app that I could set up to show an animated Tux when I had email?
[01:22] <ompaul> guangu23, people may be able to, when they know your question
[01:22] <MaTaKs> cjhcjhcjh: what's better photoshop or gimp?, or juz kinda similar
[01:22] <robotgeek> _Temujin: nope, my bad. you will need to install kernel-headers
[01:22] <guangu23> Wo can help me
[01:22] <bigfoot1> MaTaKs, gimp is free (no money)
[01:22] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yes, in a way
[01:22] <guangu23> Who can help me
[01:22] <psichron> !tell psichron kubuntu
[01:22] <cjhcjhcjh> robotgeek, speaking of build-essential and such things...I am not sure that everything was installed here; for a start, "man" is missing...is there a way to check / install all basic components?
[01:22] <desplesda> guangu23:  ask your question please
[01:23] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: gimp is free ( as in Freedom ) << as well :)
[01:23] <guangu23> I find my network is slow
[01:23] <desplesda> guangu23:  we get a lot of questions in here, so don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask away!
[01:23] <cjhcjhcjh> MaTaKs, probably personal preference
[01:23] <daan> I have a audigy zs notebook wich goes into my pcmcia slot. but once i put it in the slot my computer hangs. can anyone help me with that?
[01:23] <guangu23> thank you
[01:23] <guangu23> i see
[01:23] <_Temujin> kernel-package looks like it might have everything
[01:23] <bigfoot1> MaTaKs, but if cost is not an issue, i think photoshop is better. (I don't really know. I don't have the money to try out Photoshop!)
[01:24] <reiki> when this is all done updating... will I need to reboot? It would amaze me if it can make this many changes and not require a reboot. I know it's linux, but...
[01:24] <robotgeek> gorthaug: doesn't just clicking on the date change stuff. also you can try "Synchronize Now"
[01:24] <_Temujin> or linux-linux-headers-2.6.12-9 or headers-2.6.12-9-386 or
[01:24] <ompaul> guangu23, you have to now give more indormaiton, like what kind of network what kind of connection, which ubuntu version you are using how you connect to the network
[01:24] <danst> hi can somebody tell me what the standard dev-node for the parallel port is?
[01:24] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i guess the downside of free software is that the development is worse, would'nt you say?
[01:24] <guangu23> i am useing the ADSL
[01:24] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: on the contrary
[01:24] <robotgeek> _Temujin: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:24] <guangu23> i am a chinese
[01:24] <rob^> bigfoot1, its usually better
[01:25] <guangu23> My english is so poor
[01:25] <robotgeek> reiki: you don't have to if you don't want to!
[01:25] <reiki> robotgeek ok... then I'm amazed! :)
[01:26] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, rob^ i just think of openoffice and what looks like a hi-tech MS OFfice.
[01:26] <ompaul> guangu23, what is your adsl connection speed? (your English is okay) how do you connect to it, wireless, wired, if wired what kind of connection is it an adsl card or is it ethernet to a router
[01:26] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: more secure, more rapidly updated, more accessible, better in almost every way - of course closed source apps are sometimes better
[01:26] <robotgeek> reiki: though for kernel updates to be applied, you would need a reboot. i guess anything not being used is updated and can be used immediately
[01:26] <rob^> MS Office has a lot of money behind it, and been around longer
[01:26] <ompaul> guangu23, when you say network do you mean home network, or internet connection
[01:26] <gogeta> anyone knoe why my sound is messed
[01:26] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, but when you think of openoffice apps, don't you think they are primitive compared to MS office?
[01:27] <sumon> robotgeek , anyidea why i cannot get new extentions in firefox?
[01:27] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: openoffice is very nice
[01:27] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if there is a problem with Free/Open Source, it's likely you can contribute to improve it
[01:27] <guangu23> My ADSL is about 2mps
[01:27] <robotgeek> sumon: no idea
[01:27] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i ran that update command again, and i have some messages relating to your repo. Please see http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3075
[01:27] <daan> I have a audigy zs notebook wich goes into my pcmcia slot. but once i put it in the slot my computer hangs. can anyone help me with that?
[01:27] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i'm no geek. i can't fix it.
[01:27] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: and mostly a better interface than MSOffice
[01:27] <ompaul> bigfoot1, when I think of MS office I think closed source and when I think of alternatives I think they have enough functionality for me to be very happy using them as I have for 10 years
[01:27] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: there are other ways to help
[01:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, meh, my repositiry is broken :/
[01:28] <EnsignRedshirt> Ahhh... is gdesklets-data what I want, or mail-notification?
[01:28] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i can submit bugs.
[01:28] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: like i do here
[01:28] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I'm not a programmer but I can help in IRC
[01:28] <robotgeek> EnsignRedshirt: probably gdesklets
[01:28] <danst> /dev/parport0 does not seem to be the standard parallel port. what is it??
[01:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, grab http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb manually and dpkg -i it
[01:28] <bigfoot1> Seveas, so what must i do if i want to get a clean package of skype. (You mentioned that the skype package from skype.com has packaging errors)
[01:28] <guangu23> But when i use the ubuntu linux,i find it is so slow
[01:28] <bimberi> danst: (at a guess) /dev/lp0 ?
[01:28] <_Temujin> robogeek> Thanks... Now I need to get the module source for my Cisco VPN client :)
[01:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, I just said what to do :)
[01:29] <EnsignRedshirt> ...or maybe notification-daemon?  This one is supported by Ubuntu, but I'm not sure what it does.
[01:29] <robotgeek> _Temujin: have fun compiling!
[01:29] <guangu23> i used windows before
[01:29] <bigfoot1> Seveas, is "dpkg -i" a newbie-friendly command to run?
[01:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no
[01:29] <rob^> heh
[01:29] <Seveas> but it runs ;)
[01:29] <robotgeek> :)
[01:29] <_Temujin> robogeek> And if I want to tweek my kernel... do I get kernel-package?
[01:29] <Seveas> newbie friendly would be me fixung my repo
[01:29] <dooglus> _Temujin: get 'vpnc' - that connects you to Cisco VPNs
[01:29] <guangu23> ompaul:???
[01:29] <reiki> ok... update just finished. I'm going to reboot to get the new kernel running... back in a few (hopefully).
[01:29] <Seveas> but I don't have time for that now
[01:29] <_Temujin> yeah?
[01:29] <dooglus> yeah!  :)
[01:29] <_Temujin> Without tainting?
[01:29] <ompaul> bigfoot1, well one of the things you can do it go to skype and get the tgz and follow their instructions, you can also do stuff like go to skype and complain that it does not work out of the box with ubuntu
[01:30] <danst> bimberi, sorry it's not lp0 as well... dmesg doesnt tell me the port... what is it at your pc?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if you're frustrated with skype and opera it isn't ubuntu's fault you know ;-)
[01:30] <dooglus> tainting?  the kernel you mean?
[01:30] <aftertaf> lol Seveas antin00b :)
[01:30] <_Temujin> yeah
[01:30] <bimberi> danst: don't be sorry, i am, but i was guessing :)
[01:30] <guangu23> Then how can I updata my system
[01:30] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i'm not frustrated with skype or opera. what made you think that?
[01:30] <noodle> how do i change the default 386 kernel to a 686 one?
[01:30] <dooglus> I don't know what that means, but I never had a problem with it
[01:31] <mahangu> anyone recomend any cool desktop widgets to work with ubuntu?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: oh OK - I thought you were complaining about having to use dpkg for them :)
[01:31] <bigfoot1> ompaul, what's the best way to get skype? what's the cleanest way? Most newbie-friendly way?
[01:31] <dooglus> _Temujin: you'll have to find the real network key, not the long expanded one, but there are ways of doing that
[01:31] <_Temujin> I feel like a n00b switching to Ubuntu... First Debian I've used...
[01:31] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i wasn't complaining. i just didn't know what dpkg does.
[01:31] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: man dpkg :)
[01:31] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: OK - now worries :)
[01:32] <thoreauputic> heh *no* worries I meant
[01:32] <jasp> guangu23:  if you are trying to install apllications through the ubuntu server, that can be slow at the moment, normally it's much faster
[01:32] <bigfoot1> Seveas, so your skype deb is better than the deb at skype.com, is this correct?
[01:32] <guangu23> what king linux do you use
[01:32] <TFP_> hi
[01:32] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1:  If it works, it's better ;)
[01:32] <guangu23> jasp
[01:33] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, why do you say so?
[01:33] <guangu23> jasp/
[01:33] <TFP_> how can i start a programm on startup under ubuntu? a deamon
[01:33] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: working > not working :)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: that;s why he made it - the skype.com deb is broken
[01:33] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i gotcha.
[01:33] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:33] <sedeki> i have some truetype fonts i want to install. were do i put them?
[01:33] <reiki> ok.. rebooted fine... update manager has a couple updates for me already
[01:33] <robotgeek> TFP_: use update-rc.d <script> defaults
[01:34] <ompaul> guangu23, sorry I do not understand your update question, can you give more information
[01:34] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: an example of the community doing a better job :)
[01:34] <jasp> I'm upgrading from ubuntu hoary to breezy at the moment.
[01:34] <sedeki> here /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType ??
[01:34] <johntramp> hey is there a way to have nautilus only use browser mode
[01:34] <mahangu> i want to move my gnome application menu to another panel, can i do that>
[01:34] <redguy|work> TFP_: you should make a script that launches the program and put it in /etc/init.d/, then do as robotgeek says
[01:34] <_Temujin> and to get the complete kernel source tree for breezy?
[01:34] <jasp> like many other people..
[01:34] <ompaul> guangu23, for package updates, in a terminal >sudo apt-get update<  > sudo apt-get upgrade<  that is for bug fixing
[01:34] <dooglus> mahangu: right-click it and say 'move'
[01:34] <cjhcjhcjh> where should I install realplayer, so that firefox can find it?
[01:34] <bigfoot1> Seveas, maybe you can give your deb file to skype
[01:35] <MaTaKs> what's better xchat or irssi?
[01:35] <[R] > hi, i've got a problem since i use Breezy : when i try to reboot (sudo reboot), it does a power off :-/
[01:35] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: hah
[01:35] <guangu23> ompaul,such as install a mysql
[01:35] <sumon> robotgeek, i have an old version of firefox
[01:35] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, don't you think it's a good idea.
[01:35] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:35] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: why would he do that unless they open their code?
[01:35] <sumon> robotgeek, 1.0.7
[01:35] <danst> hi everyone, where could I find the device adress of my parallel port (it's not lp0 and not parport0)
[01:35] <dooglus> MaTaKs: xchat is graphical, irssi is text based.  they're different
[01:35] <ompaul> guangu23 I am going to get the bot to send you a message that is ubotu
[01:35] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, you mean seveas hacked into a close-coded app?
[01:35] <TFP_> redguy|work: and what has to be in that script?
[01:35] <guangu23> where can i get a mysql package
[01:35] <robotgeek> sumon: 1.0.7 is the newest i guess
[01:36] <mahangu> dooglus, wont move :(
[01:36] <cjhcjhcjh> what subdir should I install an app to? (eg realplayer)
[01:36] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: they don't give the community their code - no he just added the necessary dependencies etc
[01:36] <ompaul> !tell guangu23 about synaptic
[01:36] <bigfoot1> is there a way to "dpkg -i" a deb using GUI? Will synaptic do it?
[01:36] <dooglus> mahangu: is it 'locked to panel'?  if so, untick that
[01:36] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no there is no way yet
[01:36] <robotgeek> TFP_: whatever you need to run the daemon
[01:36] <bimberi> bigfoot1: no
[01:36] <sumon> robotgeek , oh ya .. but the extentions are not made for the newest version
[01:36] <reiki> ok.. all done except mplayer-586 is not upgraded
[01:36] <bigfoot1> Seveas, bimberi . okay, time to go to the dark side: terminal
[01:36] <mahangu> dooglus, if i delete it, can i add it to a panel again?
[01:36] <robotgeek> sumon: then just wait
[01:36] <guangu23> how can i recever it
[01:37] <TFP_> ah ok
[01:37] <TFP_> thx
[01:37] <robotgeek> TFP_: np
[01:37] <robotgeek> mahangu: yeah, you can add it back
[01:37] <dooglus> mahangu: sure.  but you should be able to move it.  you don't drag mind you - just right-click, click 'move', then let go of the mouse buttons and move the mouse pointer to the other panel
[01:37] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no, the Dark Side is KDE, the terminal is merely the semi-transparent side :)
[01:37] <cjhcjhcjh> I installed realplayer to the default folder - ie in my desktop...but firefox cant find it to play a file. Should I move it? Or put a shortcut somewhere?
[01:37] <bimberi> Seveas: lol
[01:37] <robotgeek> Seveas: kde is alrite :)
[01:38] <bigfoot1> Seveas, oh you're a gnome user.
[01:38] <dooglus> mahangu: you can add another one to the other panel before you delete the first one if you want - that way you'll not end up with none of them...
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Seveas: now now ;)
[01:38] <mahangu> thanks robotgeek , dooglus
[01:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, but he is so right :)
[01:38] <mahangu> dooglus, how can i add
[01:38] <guangu23> ompaul,you are a kind man
[01:38] <Seveas> looks like I steppd on some ktoes here :)
[01:38] <mahangu> they dont have such an applet
[01:38] <dooglus> mahangu: right-click, add to panel
[01:38] <ompaul> guangu23, I try to help :)
[01:38] <dooglus> you have to right-click on an empty bit of panel...
[01:38] <guangu23> how can i connet you next time
[01:38] <mahangu> dooglus, and add what?
[01:38] <robotgeek> Seveas: i use gnome myself, but with openbox as the wm :)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ompaul: come to the light side! Use fluxbox!
[01:38] <mahangu> there is no such applet
[01:38] <bigfoot1> Seveas, you gave me an unnecessary scare! dpkg -i IS newbie friendly. I thought that that command was the first step of many. But it does it all!
[01:38] <cyberixae> Why doesn't my xmodmap do anything?
[01:39] <dooglus> mahangu: add 'menu bar'
[01:39] <cyberixae> It gives no errors
[01:39] <cyberixae> But it doesn't affect the keyboard layout in any way.
[01:39] <Seveas> bigfoot1, hehe, if you have KDE installed that is ;)
[01:39] <Seveas> otherwise it will spew errors
[01:39] <BiSK-8> hello
[01:39] <guangu23> ompaul,how can i find you next time
[01:39] <dooglus> mahangu: or try adding 'main menu' instead.  it's the same, but takes up 10 times less screen space
[01:39] <Seveas> (in the case of this package)
[01:40] <bigfoot1> Seveas, dpkg -i in kde is a horror film?
[01:40] <BiSK-8> whats the package that i have 2 install to use the command make or make install?
[01:40] <ompaul> guangu23, come in ask your question, give as much detail as you can and others can help you also :)
[01:40] <mahangu> dooglus, cool
[01:40] <mahangu> thanks mate
[01:40] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no, but nevermind :)
[01:40] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  when you look at MSOffice, dont you find it bloatware compared to openoffice?
[01:40] <guangu23> thank you
[01:40] <aftertaf> :D
[01:40] <dooglus> glad to be of service :)
[01:40] <guangu23> i will
[01:40] <joniak99> question????  I dual boot right now with Ubuntu as my main,  i need to upgrade my windows and as i have done this before i am afraid i will not be able to get into my ubuntu later how can i back up my info. in ubuntu
[01:40] <bigfoot1> aftertaf, yes i guess. but from the little i know of the newest version, it's very high-tech.
[01:40] <ompaul> guangu23, well you can always hang around and see if you can give help :)
[01:41] <thoreauputic> guangu23: finding ompaul isn't a problem - avoiding him *is* ;-)
[01:41] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: half of my thesis was written in OO.org
[01:41] <aftertaf> yeah, but do we NEED it all?
[01:41] <ompaul> hahaha
[01:41] <Toma-> im getting a nasty message from konqueror "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly" i run it in a term and get "end from FAM server connection" any clues on a fix?
[01:41] <guangu23> *ompaul*
[01:41] <guangu23> ?????
[01:41] <guangu23> I can't undstand
[01:42] <aftertaf> guangu23:  you dont want to ;)
[01:42] <guangu23> to where
[01:42] <bigfoot1> seveas, I can't find debian etch version of opera at http://opera.com/download/?platform=linux
[01:42] <Da_Putzler> hi folks...
[01:43] <bigfoot1> i just re-installed skype, but all my contacts are gone!
[01:43] <dooglus> bigfoot1: the static one works fine
[01:43] <robotgeek> okay, i gotta hit the bed now...cya folks later
[01:43] <Da_Putzler> Just installed Ubuntu 5.10 and everything works great, except the server lists... it stalls when refreshing
[01:43] <EnsignRedshirt> OK, the gdesklet mail notification works, but I would rather have a smaller icon in the toolbar.  What happened to the old email notifcation toolbar app that was available in warty?
[01:43] <aftertaf> Da_Putzler:  network load...
[01:43] <GNAM> terrible
[01:43] <bigfoot1> forget it. Skype HAS my contacts.
[01:43] <robotgeek> Da_Putzler: servers are slammed right now
[01:43] <bigfoot1> I made a mistake of opening two instances of skype and one of them had no contacts. Sorry. Ignore this.
[01:44] <Da_Putzler> oh, so give it some time 'til everything quietens down
[01:44] <aftertaf> Da_Putzler:  or change http to ftp ;)
[01:44] <guangu23> I must to work now,thanks for your help,ompaul
[01:44] <cusco> how do I make small calculations on bash?
[01:44] <Da_Putzler> ah, good point
[01:44] <reiki> in Synaptic I have several things listed under Not Installed (residual config) ... what's that mean?
[01:45] <cusco> like 192/3
[01:45] <nomed> anyone using ivman with xfce ?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, are you on dial-up?
[01:45] <Da_Putzler> can u answer a quick network question ?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> cusco:  echo $[2 + 2] 
[01:45] <cusco> thoreauputic: cheers
[01:45] <dooglus> I only just got the security package for openssl.  the package is timestamped 21 hours ago.  are the mirrors that far behind really?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: yes, sadly
[01:45] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, is high-speed internet expensive in your area?
[01:45] <dooglus> cusco: ((x=x+2))
[01:46] <MaTaKs> i install a 3dchess, how can i run the game?
[01:46] <Da_Putzler> How come when I enable my Wireless card in Ubuntu, the keyboard slows down and repeats when I type ???
[01:46] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: fairly - but I'm rather poor as well ;)
[01:46] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i'm sad to hear that.
[01:46] <pitti> dooglus: no, we just had some delay with setting up breezy-security
[01:46] <ompaul> guangu23, no problem
[01:46] <pitti> dooglus: that's fine
[01:46] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, how much is the average monthly price of hi-speed internet in your area?
[01:46] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: Oh I don't mind really - my needs are modest :)
[01:46] <cjhcjhcjh> Woot have Radio4...thanks for all the tips on that one...you all rock
[01:46] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i see.
[01:46] <guangu23> 888888888888888
[01:47] <Trackilizer> Hey, just wanted to ask is it possible to update to Breezy using only the Breezy CD, the reason i ask is be cause about half way though Synaptic stops reading the CD and starts downloading, is this normal?
[01:47] <bigfoot1> guangu23, all right, you've learned to type the number eight. Now on to the number nine.
[01:47] <jasp> MaTaKs:if there is no shortcur in Applications/Games menu, you can create one, or open a terminal and type 3dchess.
[01:47] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: yes, if you have extra apps that aren't on the CD, of course
[01:48] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: 9 is too far to reach :)
[01:48] <MaTaKs> jasp:  i tried 3dchess  but say's no such file or directory
[01:48] <Ky0tIk> anyone else getting a bad gpg signature ?
[01:48] <Ky0tIk> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:48] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, you gotta start each day with some pinky-stretching exercise.
[01:48] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: good idea :)
[01:49] <thoreauputic> Ky0tIk: I got one a few hours ago - it cleared up
[01:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Ky0tIk: I got the same error yesterday the first time I reloaded in synaptic.  I clicked OK, and everything has worked find since then.
[01:49] <EnsignRedshirt> s/find/fine/
[01:49] <thoreauputic> Ky0tIk: I suggest waiting a while and trying again
[01:49] <Ky0tIk> i think its a server side problem
[01:49] <Ky0tIk> i was just making sure
[01:49] <Trackilizer> So, how do i set Synaptic to use only the  CD to update?
[01:50] <thoreauputic> Ky0tIk: the servers are having an overwork crisis :)
[01:50] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: what did you use in the end to get radio 4?
[01:50] <bigfoot1> i just reinstalled opera, and i get an error message. please refer http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3076
[01:50] <Ky0tIk> thoreauputic: i noticed that :D
[01:50] <daan> when i try to start enemy territory i get: Received error 11: exiting...       can someone help?
[01:50] <mgedmin> I've missing nautilus icons after upgrade to breezy -- any ideas?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> Ky0tIk: not yet a nervous breakdown though ;)
[01:51] <avalente> locales should be one of the first packages to be reconfigured on update... because of the perl errors.. :S
[01:51] <bigfoot1> the opera problem is about motif wrapper (for realplayer).  What is this motif thingy?
[01:51] <loli> maple syrup doesn't go well with paper plates :(
[01:51] <thoreauputic> mgedmin: try changing theme
[01:51] <Trackilizer> So has anyone updated from Hoary to Breezy using only the CD?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> loli: quotes of the day :)
[01:51] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, realplayer
[01:51] <loli> ^_^
[01:51] <kbrooks> Trackilizer: no, i use the net
[01:52] <loli> bbl
[01:52] <nasso> has anyone seen the breezy cd-cover?
[01:52] <mgedmin> thoreauputic, that helped -- thanks a lot
[01:52] <Trackilizer> Well, the net is rather slow now, but i have the CD so i just wanted to know if i can upgrade using only the CD.
[01:52] <kbrooks> Trackilizer: yes you can
[01:52] <kbrooks> add the cdrom
[01:53] <thoreauputic> mgedmin: you're welcome :)
[01:53] <Trackilizer> Erm.... how?
[01:53] <Trackilizer> I don't know how.
[01:53] <[R] > hi, i use Breezy, and when i try to reboot (sudo reboot), it does actually a power off :-(. Any idea ?
[01:53] <Trackilizer> That's the prob.
[01:53] <rancorus> why does it seem that the update to Breezy will never end by doing it apt-get
[01:53] <kbrooks> synaptic
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer:  apt-cdrom add
[01:53] <cjhcjhcjh> I am missing various packages...I have done apt-get build-essential, but worry I am missing stuff...what else? (man is still missing, which doesn&t help my loads-of-questions-floods)
[01:53] <kbrooks> rancorus: internet is slow
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: actually sudo apt-cdrom add
[01:53] <nasso> rancorus: the servers are probable overloaded rights now :)
[01:53] <aravi_> Hmm, can't get the ATI drivers to work.
[01:54] <Renski> rancorus: what kind of internet connection are you using?
[01:54] <aravi_> fglxinfo shows it as using Mesa Indirect, and outputs the following error
[01:54] <Trackilizer> Okie, I'll try that now.. be back in a bit to let you guys know if it worked or not.
[01:54] <rancorus> kbrooks: I know but everytime i reach the end and i run sudo apt-get upgrade it finds more
[01:54] <aravi_> libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed
[01:54] <kbrooks> rancorus: dist-upgrade
[01:54] <rancorus> Renski: sympatico high-speed (pppoe)
[01:54] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: you can only expect the CD rom to update stuff it has on board
[01:54] <daan> how do i install my ati card on breezy?
[01:54] <bigfoot1> i just reinstalled opera, but it's not showing up on my main menu
[01:54] <rancorus> kbrooks: i did that to
[01:55] <rancorus> kbrooks: when do you know you reached the end
[01:55] <bigfoot1> opera showed up on my main menu/internet in hoary, but not in breezy
[01:55] <gfxstyler> hi
[01:55] <Ky0tIk> Sonderblade: tell everyone about your experience upgrading to breezy... lol    the poor guy had 233 broken deps, and didnt know it and had changed his sources to breezy,  then he tried apt-get update and dist-upgrade got almost a majority completed then it failed on him..    leaving his system have 5.04 half 5.10....  i think we might, just might have it going ok now though, after a lot of digging and fixing lol
[01:55] <kbrooks> rancorus: i have no clue
[01:56] <rancorus> kbrooks: ok thank you
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: non-compliant path in the opera code somewhere, probably
[01:56] <sham> hey
[01:56] <gfxstyler> will the new ati fglrx drivers get into the breezy repositories? 8.18.6
[01:56] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, do you know how to add the icon/shortcut?
[01:56] <avalente> locales should be one of the first packages to be reconfigured on update... because of the perl errors.. :S has anyone got these perl errors about LOCALE?
[01:56] <cjhcjhcjh> Where can I see the packages that the installation should normally install? (bcoz it didnt)
[01:56] <sham> i was just wondering how i can stop evolution-data-server starting up at startup?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: use the smeg manu editor
[01:56] <indypende> hi all
[01:56] <Trackilizer> So after "sudo apt-cdrom add", what next?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> *menu
[01:57] <indypende> what's the soution for the "restricted format" package repository?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: the icon is probably in /usr/share/ somewhere
[01:57] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, do you know how i add use  an image file as an icon for those packages which don't come with any icons?
[01:58] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:58] <Trackilizer> Okie
[01:58] <amartineau> salut
[01:58] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: when I tried installing realplayer, it wanted me to download version 8.  the website has version 10GOLD or something.  what did you do about that?
[01:58] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if you make your own icon you just tell the menu editor where it is
[01:58] <amartineau> hi
[01:58] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, oh cool. my icons can be of any size?
[01:59] <amartineau> i m new
[01:59] <FliesLikeABrick> are there mirrors for apt repositories like us.archive.ubuntu.com and whatnot?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: well, I guess they come out the standard size :)
[01:59] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, when I tried to play the radio, I was directed to v10...I downloaded it (a .BIN), chmod"d it, ran it as root, and it worked
[01:59] <salutis1> hello, i am problem with gaim. how i unmaximize gaim from gnome panel?
[01:59] <bigfoot1> i see, menu-editor resizes the image file.
[01:59] <indypende> what's the soution for the "restricted format" package repository?
[02:00] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: ooh, so it's outside of the dpkg system...
[02:00] <Aravi> Hmm, can't get the ATI drivers to work.
[02:00] <Aravi> fglxinfo shows it as using Mesa Indirect, and outputs the following error
[02:00] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: probably the system resizes it, not smeg
[02:00] <Aravi> libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed
[02:00] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Aravi about ATI
[02:00] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, I guess so...I wasn"t sure how to install it so just did it myself
[02:00] <Trackilizer> Crap! It's still using the net to update, oh well... guess I'll just have to use that now.
[02:00] <amartineau> i have install new ubuntu
[02:00] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, they did have an rpm if you know how to deal with those...I just ran the bin and it did its thing
[02:01] <salutis1> amartineau, congratulations ..)
[02:01] <amartineau> it's beautifull
[02:01] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: it isn't magic you know - it can only use the CD for packages that are on the CD
[02:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:01] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: that's what I'm worried about.  real.com's thing has a history of being nasty
[02:01] <salutis1> i am problem with gaim. how i unmaximize gaim from gnome panel?
[02:01] <Aravi> FliesLikeABrick, if you're talking about this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:01] <amartineau> But i can't connect with synaptic now
[02:01] <Trackilizer> Yeah! noticed, just thought all needed packages would be on the CD.
[02:01] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, I got it at http://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer.....and yes, I agree, I have had probs in the past...but its working ATM, is all
[02:02] <Aravi> I've followed those steps, yet it still doesn't work. It also doesn't document my error.
[02:02] <Aravi> BTW: The !tell didn't seem to work.
[02:02] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: i know on windows it hooks into places to make sure it gets run automatically - and if you remove those hooks it adds them again the next time you play a movie...  nasty behaviour
[02:02] <amartineau> may be there too lot of people
[02:02] <Trackilizer> I hope the update is worth it...
[02:02] <thoreauputic> !ati
[02:02] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:02] <mgedmin> firefox won't start for me, even when I move the profile directory away
[02:02] <bigfoot1> is there an equivalent to MAC widgets on ubuntu? I want to have clocks of different cities on my desktop.
[02:03] <mgedmin> however it does start on a remote X server if I use ssh X forwarding
[02:03] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, yep, I know...it is a pain, but also hard to do without it
[02:03] <mahangu> woo my new desktop looks awesome
[02:03] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: apparently it's possible to play realmedia stuff without it - but I can't get it to work.
[02:03] <mgedmin> so I blame my X server, but have got no idea how to debug this
[02:03] <salutis1> i am problem with gaim. how i unmaximize gaim from gnome panel?
[02:03] <Trackilizer> Your words are worthless without a screenshot :P
[02:03] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, I have had the same experiences.
[02:03] <thoreauputic> salutis1: please stop repeating
[02:03] <jasp> amartineau: yes I think that's the reason, the servers are really slow.
[02:04] <thoreauputic> !repeat
[02:04] <ubotu> it has been said that repeat is Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer
[02:04] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: I'm going to try taking their .rpm file apart any see if it contains the missing dlls...  it probably won't, but it's worth a try in the absense of any other ideas.
[02:04] <salutis1> thoreauputic,
[02:04] <salutis1> thoreauputic, ok
[02:04] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:04] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, would it help if I pastebin a list of the installed version?
[02:05] <blackfeet> hi, since i've updated to breezy a view fonts are missing, for example gnuCash doesn't work because it needs helvetica. I've installed all possible font-packages
[02:05] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: yes, quite possibly
[02:05] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: you can get a list somehow?  it's not a package, is it?
[02:05] <FliesLikeABrick> amartineau, jasp see the topic
[02:05] <Ky0tIk> salutis1: what do you mean unmaximize from gnome panel?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> salutis1: your question is unclear - try rephrasing it
[02:05] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, it installed into a subdir called RealPlayer
[02:06] <FliesLikeABrick> blackfeet,  did you do what it said about fonts at http://tinyurl.com/dkllj ?
[02:06] <Ky0tIk> cjhcjhcjh: what are you trying to install?
[02:06] <amartineau> ok
[02:06] <Ky0tIk> helix / real?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> cjhcjhcjh: did you run it with sudo, and accept the defaults?
[02:07] <salutis1> i have gaim application minimized in gnome panel. is here keyboard shortcut for give my buddy-list window?
[02:07] <blackfeet> FliesLikeABrick, no, i'll look
[02:07] <indypende> what's the soution for the "restricted format" package repository?
[02:07] <eruin> does anyone know a quick and easy way to use gstreamer to convert .m4a files to mp3?
[02:08] <Ky0tIk> salutis1: im having a difficult time understanding you.... i think you mean gnome is a tray icon, and you want a keyboard shortcut to open your buddy list?? am i correct?
[02:09] <seekerr> hello
[02:09] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: gaim, not gnome, but otherwise yes, that's what he said
[02:10] <cjhcjhcjh> thoreauputic, yes, defaults
[02:10] <thoreauputic> cjhcjhcjh: did you accept to make system wide links ?
[02:10] <cjhcjhcjh> Ky0tIk, realplayer, and I did install it; others want to know details
[02:10] <cjhcjhcjh> thoreauputic, yep, and there are now links all over the shop
[02:10] <Ky0tIk> yea i meant gaim dooglus
[02:10] <Ky0tIk> lack of sleep here
[02:11] <gurL14> asl everyone
[02:11] <Ky0tIk> cjhcjhcjh: i had real player installed.. but it was worthless..
[02:11] <thoreauputic> cjhcjhcjh: sorry, what problem are you having with it? It won't run?
[02:11] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, just looked and cant find much of use to you...the subdir just has some pngs, some config files and the one executable
[02:11] <dooglus> it's a good question isn't it.  can you make a new global keyboard shortcut to do something like open the gaim buddy list?
[02:11] <cjhcjhcjh> thoreauputic, no problem, is working; was giving info to dooglus
[02:11] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: and stuff like codecs/raac.so too?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> cjhcjhcjh: oh - sorry - I missed that :)
[02:12] <Ky0tIk> mozplugger, mplayer, mpg321, xine/vlc xmms  thats my choices for everything heh
[02:12] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, cant see any of that, might be elsewhere but remember Im a n00b
[02:12] <bigfoot1> bomb alert: I have a file called core in my home directory, and its icon is that of a bomb. What should i do with it?
[02:12] <dooglus> Ky0tIk: which of those plays real stuff?
[02:12] <Aravi> kernel-headers-2.6.11-9 requires kernel-kbuild-2.6.3 which is not available.
[02:12] <cjhcjhcjh> thoreauputic, no worries; Im sure I will hit another problem for you within the next half hour
[02:12] <Aravi> Any idea where I should go to get them?
[02:12] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: you can use "find" to find files.  do "find <dir> -name raac.so"
[02:12] <Ky0tIk> im not "real" sure
[02:13] <thoreauputic> cjhcjhcjh: hahah :D
[02:13] <dooglus> where <dir> is the place you installed to
[02:13] <Ky0tIk> but i know something besides real player /helix does
[02:13] <Artemis3> bigfoot1: delete it, each time a program crash it can make a debug file called core dump
[02:13] <Aravi> bigfoot1, it's a coredump from a program that crashed.
[02:13] <dooglus> I tried helix.  it told me it didn't support real stuff, and that I should download realplayer from real.com
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Aravi: erm - why 2.6.11 ?
[02:13] <fernando> hi all
[02:13] <fernando> W: GPG error: http://www.opensourcemirrors.org breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[02:14] <bigfoot1> Artemis3, Aravi oh, phew.
[02:14] <Ky0tIk> dooglus: helix is a real clone
[02:14] <fernando> three errors
[02:14] <Ng> Ky0tIk: it doesn't have the real codec though
[02:14] <Artemis3> i like disabling core dumps...
[02:14] <fernando> breezy, breezy-updates and breezy-security
[02:14] <bigfoot1> if i add multiple mirrors to my sources list, will my ubuntu be smart enough to download from the fastest one?
[02:14] <Ky0tIk> something in the repos has a code that works with .ra and .rpm
[02:14] <Aravi> I'm trying to get the kernel headers so I can build the ATi drivers manually.
[02:14] <Ky0tIk> codec*
[02:14] <dooglus> how do you enable coredumps?  I've not seen a core for months.
[02:15] <reiki> hmmm... after the update I appear to have openoffice.org AND openoffice.org2
[02:15] <Aravi> since I can't seem to get the packaged ones to work.
[02:15] <cjhcjhcjh> bigfoot1, no - will try the first one first...even if 2nd is a local file
[02:15] <dooglus> Aravi: get "linux-kernel-headersW
[02:15] <Ng> dooglus: with ulimit
[02:15] <dooglus> Aravi: get "linux-kernel-headers"
[02:15] <Artemis3> you see em only if your programs crash
[02:15] <bigfoot1> cjhcjhcjh, so order is very important.
[02:15] <Artemis3> which should not be often...
[02:15] <dooglus> Artemis3: oh, my programs crash all the time.  I see "segmentation fault", but no coredump
[02:15] <Ng> reiki: you can remove openoffice with synaptic
[02:15] <bigfoot1> Artemis3, how do you disable core dumps? And is there any reason NOT to disable?
[02:16] <dooglus> bigfoot1: core files are useful for debugging
[02:16] <cjhcjhcjh> bigfoot1, yep, local copy of cd first, then ftp or http
[02:16] <Artemis3> to help developers resolve the bugs
[02:16] <Artemis3> they might want to see the dump
[02:16] <dooglus> it's a copy of memory as it was when the program crashed
[02:16] <bigfoot1> Artemis3, who do? Developers/geeks? I'm no geek, so i guess i don't need to see these core dumps, right?
[02:16] <cjhcjhcjh> bigfoot1, that way if there is a newer version on the web it will fetch it; if not it will get it from your local copy
[02:17] <bigfoot1> cjhcjhcjh, so i should but web mirror first, and then local hard drive?
[02:17] <Aravi> Already installed :\
[02:17] <cjhcjhcjh> dooglus, there is no raac anywhere on my system
[02:17] <Aravi> Yet I can't build the drivers myself
[02:17] <cjhcjhcjh> bigfoot1, no...local first, then web
[02:18] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if you get a core dump and you aren't submitting a bug, just delete the file
[02:18] <dooglus> cjhcjhcjh: oh, ok.  it's in the rpm version...
[02:18] <ian> Anybody have experience with a Windows/Netboot installation for a Win98 lappy?
[02:18] <dooglus> so how do you enable core dumps?
[02:18] <dooglus> I don't think I ever deliberately disabled them
[02:18] <thoreauputic> ian: erm - that's way offtopic
[02:18] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, and we were just talking about how i can do my part to contribute to the OSS world. I'd feel guilty if i disable core dumps. should i?
[02:18] <cjhcjhcjh> ian I have just installed on a 98 laptop, but I used loadlin rather than netboot
[02:19] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: heh - up to you :)
[02:19] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: if you submit a bug and you have a core file, the devs might be interested in it
[02:20] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, okay, is there a way to change the folder where core dumps go?
[02:20] <dooglus> elmo crashes whenever I run it, but makes no core:
[02:20] <dooglus> $ elmo => Segmentation fault  $ ls core => ls: core: No such file or directory
[02:20] <cjhcjhcjh> ian, why do you want to use netboot to install?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: what for? They land in $HOME by default I think
[02:20] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i don't want to make my home directory messed up. that's all.
[02:21] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it's one file...
[02:21] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: you won't - core dumps don't happen much you know :)
[02:21] <Artemis3> "By using the ulimit command in bash, the limit command in tcsh, or the
[02:21] <ian> I dont have a CD-ROM or floppy for my lappy...
[02:21] <thoreauputic> In all the time I've used ubuntu I think I've seen 3 core dumps :)
[02:21] <Artemis3> rlimit command in ksh."
[02:22] <ian> I tried using loadlin...
[02:22] <ian> but was getting an error...
[02:22] <ian> Kernel Panick - unable to mount root fs...
[02:22] <apokryphos> !tell ian about install
[02:22] <cjhcjhcjh> ian what error? I had to fight with it but I got it to work in the end
[02:22] <cjhcjhcjh> ian yep, I had that. hold on...checking notes
[02:22] <ian> thanks.
[02:23] <Florob> I just noticed I have no sysfs under breezy, is this normal?
[02:23] <bigfoot1>  Artemis3 how do i disable core dumps?
[02:23] <Artemis3> i just gave an answer
[02:24] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: it's really pretty pointless ...
[02:24] <jfarrell> hey all i need some quick help
[02:24] <jfarrell> trying to install kde on my ubuntu system, but i get this
[02:24] <jfarrell> not sure what to make of it
[02:24] <jfarrell>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: dbus-qt-1 but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <jfarrell>                    Depends: k3b but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <jfarrell>                    Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <jfarrell>                    Depends: kdepim but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <jfarrell>                    Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <jfarrell>                    Depends: kynaptic but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <jfarrell>                    Depends: ubuntu-quickguide but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <thoreauputic> idiot
[02:25] <cjhcjhcjh> ian you need to extract the linux (kernel) and the initrd.gz from the install cd, and have them in the same subdir as loadlin, then do "loadlin linux /initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/ram rw"
[02:25] <dooglus> Florob: no, it's not normal I don't think.  I see:
[02:25] <dooglus> "sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)" and "none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)"
[02:25] <chx> hi. between Breezy Pre and Release Beep Media Player skin has changed, how could I get back the old?
[02:25] <ian> ok...
[02:25] <ian> what about ramdisk_size parameters?
[02:25] <apokryphos> jfarrell: it's common courtesey to not flood the channel; use a pastebin service.
[02:25] <Artemis3> "Install kde on my ubuntu..." how about installing kubuntu?
[02:25] <ian> vga?
[02:25] <apokryphos> Artemis3: kubuntu = kde+ubuntu
[02:25] <ian> not required?
[02:26] <cjhcjhcjh> ian, ?
[02:26] <Florob> dooglus: This is a fresh install, hmm, well I guess I'll add it to my fstab and file a bug report
[02:26] <Artemis3> doesn't kubuntu remove gnome?
[02:26] <ian> yes cjhcjhcjh...?
[02:26] <ian> Im here.
[02:26] <dooglus> Florob: it's not in my fstab...
[02:26] <mwe> Artemis3: it just doesn't install it by default
[02:26] <apokryphos> Artemis3: nope; the kubuntu ISO only has ubuntu-base and kde, though you can perfectly run kde and gnome
[02:27] <apokryphos> !tell Artemis3 about kubuntu
[02:27] <jfarrell> apologies to the channel
[02:27] <jfarrell> i meant to post this
[02:27] <jfarrell> http://pastebin.com/393365
[02:27] <typo> anyone know how I can compile a kernel that's just like 2.6.12-9-686?
[02:27] <ompaul> apokryphos, it does not have  kubuntu-desktop
[02:27] <Artemis3> apokryphos, that note needs updating (it mentions hoary)
[02:28] <cjhcjhcjh> ian, you dont need to bother with the ramdisk stuff, it "just workd" ;-)
[02:28] <cjhcjhcjh> s/kd/ks/
[02:28] <ian> ok cool....
[02:28] <apokryphos> ompaul: what doesn't?
[02:28] <apokryphos> Artemis3: go for it :)
[02:28] <ian> will give it a try now. Thanks!
[02:28] <cjhcjhcjh> ian hang on
[02:28] <ompaul> apokryphos, sorry I thought that kubuntu cd had :  kubuntu-desktop or am I reading you wrong
[02:29] <apokryphos> ompaul: it does have it
[02:29] <Florob> dooglus: Oh I guess I found a reason why it's not mounted than(i just did "umount -a; mount -a", but why is it mounted explicitly and not with mount -a on bootup?
[02:29] <cjhcjhcjh> ian if you do the above it will work, but will install everything from the web, not from your local iso...if that is ok - fast net - then go for it.
[02:29] <BiSK-8> whats the package that i have 2 install to use the command make or make install?
[02:29] <ompaul> apokryphos, thats okay I was reading you wrong :)
[02:29] <bigfoot1> Seveas, since you said your repos are broken, i should remove them from my sources list, right?
[02:29] <Ng> BiSK-8: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:29] <ian> got a fast network connection...
[02:29] <cjhcjhcjh> ian, it is possible to mount the iso image and install the rest from that if you dont have hours to kill whi
[02:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yes
[02:29] <ian> BUT
[02:29] <cjhcjhcjh> ian, while it downloads
[02:30] <ian> lappy is using PCMCIA network card...
[02:30] <reiki> is there an app that lets us configure services? I mean... what if I don't NEED RAID services running...or bluetooth... but I want an ftp service running... things like that
[02:30] <ian> will that be a problem?
[02:30] <salutis1> Ky0tIk, yes
[02:30] <BiSK-8> and another prob, how can i disinstall the calculator?
[02:30] <yonil> did anyone manage to install handbrake on ubuntu ? i just can't !
[02:30] <cjhcjhcjh> ian, it works fine downloading the whole thing from the net, but will take a while depending on your connection
[02:30] <ian> ok...
[02:31] <katzor> reiki, its called bum
[02:31] <ian> got 30MB broadband so not too long hopefully!
[02:31] <katzor> reiki, should be in the repos
[02:31] <cjhcjhcjh> ian and save a lot of hassle by freeing up partition space before you start (partition magic or similar)
[02:31] <reiki> katzor, thanks... hmmm... I though I had installed that....
[02:31] <ian> hmm
[02:31] <ian> I only have 1 partition...
[02:32] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i removed your repo from sources.list, then ran apt-get update, but I get the ff error about signatures: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3077
[02:32] <_Temujin> How do you list all the files installed by a package?
[02:32] <cjhcjhcjh> ian do you plan to wipe 98 or do you want both?
[02:32] <ian> wipe 98
[02:32] <reiki> katzor, doh!  Boot-Up Manager.... it's installed... I am old :)
[02:32] <katzor> lol
[02:32] <BiSK-8> can any1 paste me their sources.list in pvt?
[02:32] <bozzu> i think i got a problem with apt-get. i can't install serpentine because of an error with python-gnome2-extra and i noticed that ubuntu-desktop is not installed (for the same python error) is there something i can do?
[02:32] <cjhcjhcjh> ian ok go for it, with all the usual caveats about if it screws up you wont be able to boot etc
[02:32] <intelikey> _Temujin: apt-cache show <blah>  i think
[02:33] <ian> ok thanks, really appreciate your help.
[02:33] <cjhcjhcjh> ian np good luck
[02:33] <salutis1> in my gnome is a gaim tray icon, and i want a keyboard shortcut to open my buddy list
[02:33] <ian> Trying now will let you know how it goes.
[02:33] <JDigital> Hey, I only have 134MB free on root
[02:33] <JDigital> Is this enough temporary space to upgrade to breezy?
[02:33] <_Temujin> nope.  show only shows package details.
[02:33] <apokryphos> JDigital: no
[02:33] <apokryphos> JDigital: do a sudo apt-get clean ..see if that frees up a lot of space.
[02:34] <katzor> maybe if he deletes hsi old /apt/cache?
[02:34] <intelikey> _Temujin: man apt-cache
[02:34] <JDigital> I now have 161MB.
[02:34] <redguy|work> _Temujin: try apt-file list <package>
[02:34] <JDigital> Hehe, kinda regretting not buying that 300 gig drive now
[02:34] <intelikey> hmmm /me takes notes...
[02:35] <apokryphos> JDigital: it's not close to enough I'm afraid :/
[02:35] <yonil> Q: What application can i use to rip DVD's under ubuntu ? (i've heard of handbrake but i can't compile it from some reason ..)
[02:35] <_Temujin> apt-file:  command not found
[02:35] <JDigital> How much do you recommend?
[02:35] <dooglus> JDigital: do you have space on a different partition that you can write to in linux?
[02:35] <jussi_> how you can mount usb memory stick in ubuntu?
[02:36] <danst> hey friends of linux! I am searching for the parallel port device node on my notebook (/dev/parport0 and lp0 dont exist) is there anyone able to help me, please?
[02:36] <JDigital> No, I filled all my hard drives.
[02:36] <Artemis3> jussi_ i just plug it
[02:36] <topyli> jussi_: should be mounted automatically
[02:36] <jussi_> ok
[02:36] <JDigital> I really need to tidy my stuff...
[02:36] <dooglus> JDigital: you could burn a CD or DVD full of some of your porn to free up some space somewhere
[02:36] <redguy|work> _Temujin: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update maybe?
[02:36] <aftertaf> lol dooglus :)
[02:37] <JDigital> I don't know if I have enough blank DVDs to burn all of my porn
[02:37] <Artemis3> buy hd
[02:37] <dooglus> JDigital: you only need to burn one - that'll free up 4 or so gigs.
[02:37] <dooglus> that's plenty
[02:37] <JDigital> Aha.
[02:38] <JDigital> My HD setup is hilarious. I have an 80GB partitioned 4GB to Linux, half a gig swap and the rest to my stuff I never use but won't delete. The other drive is 100GB anime and 10GB windows install which doesn't work.
[02:38] <Knorrie_> what does 'configure a multiseat system' actually do at the install menu? it seems to do nothing
[02:38] <dooglus> JDigital: if you manage to make some space somewhere that's not / , you can put a symlink in /var/cache/apt/archives to somewhere on the partition with space.
[02:38] <dooglus> ('cos that's where the space gets used, mostly)
[02:38] <intelikey> redguy|work: isn't there also a dpkg line for that ?
[02:38] <Artemis3> that stuff can be put in a hd stored away
[02:38] <JDigital> What's a tidy way of going dualboot?
[02:39] <redguy|work> intelikey: propably, wanna dig man dpkg ?
[02:39] <katzor> Knorrie, its supposed to set ur box up if you have multiple graphic card/mouse/keyboard pairs
[02:39] <intelikey> na i'm on mdk redguy|work, but just figured there was.
[02:40] <lop> hi to all
[02:40] <Knorrie_> katzor: didnt know that was possible :? more keyboards at one pc
[02:40] <reiki> JDigital: if you're going to shut down to reboot anyways... go on eBay and get a DataPort cage and carriers. (swappable hard drives)
[02:40] <reiki> :)
[02:40] <reiki> VERY tidy
[02:40] <redguy|work> intelikey: not much digging, /me being lazy... dpkg -L <package>; but this lists only packages installed on your system
[02:40] <JDigital> mmm.
[02:40] <Thandurif> jdigital: Resize your windows partition and then install ubuntu - thats all there is to it
[02:40] <katzor> Knorrie, thats the cool thing about linux :-) i dont know of it works properly yet
[02:40] <intelikey> k
[02:40] <Artemis3> and sata allows hot swapping too
[02:41] <JDigital> I already have my Ubuntu installed though. That's the 4GB partition of the 80GB drive.
[02:41] <ian> ian
[02:41] <JDigital> JDigital
[02:41] <reiki> JDigital, I got a cage and 2 carriers for %5.50 US... they normally (new) are like $40 for the carriers and $120 for the cage
[02:41] <Knorrie_> katzor: then because I havent got more than 1 mouse here is why it seems the menu options does do nothing
[02:41] <redguy|work> intelikey: erm, s/only packages/only files belonging to packages/
[02:41] <rob^> !dualboot
[02:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:41] <Artemis3> plastic?
[02:41] <ian> cjhcjhcjh...?
[02:41] <katzor> Knorrie, yup
[02:41] <jussi_> is see my USB stick in lsusb, but where i can acces it
[02:41] <wezzer> has someone managed to get beagle's search-gui "best" to run?
[02:41] <ian> you still around buddy?
[02:42] <rob^> wezzer, yes
[02:42] <JDigital> I hear there's a thing that lets Windows read/write to Linux filesystem; how well does that work?
[02:42] <lop> does anyone can name me a package to install to get ATi drivers ?
[02:42] <rob^> !ati
[02:42] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:42] <thoreauputic> !ati
[02:42] <rob^> why do people add crap to the bot?
[02:43] <lop> thanks ubotu
[02:43] <intelikey> !usb
[02:43] <ubotu> intelikey: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:43] <Artemis3> i need the bot manual
[02:43] <apokryphos> intelikey: best to investigate in /msg
[02:43] <sedeki> rob^ crap?
[02:43] <apokryphos> Artemis3: /msg ubotu help
[02:43] <rob^> !factiods
[02:43] <ubotu> rob^: I haven't a clue
[02:43] <rob^> !factroids
[02:43] <ubotu> rob^: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:43] <rob^> grr
[02:43] <JDigital> !factoids
[02:43] <ubotu> I guess factoids is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:43] <rApJtR> !what is it?
[02:43] <ubotu> rApJtR: I think you lost me on that one
[02:44] <thoreauputic> Artemis3: or sudo apt-get install blootbot && man blootbot I guess :)
[02:44] <rob^> thats it
[02:44] <jussi_> !usb
[02:44] <ubotu> Not a clue, jussi_
[02:44] <rob^> but someone edited that one too
[02:44] <rApJtR> !funny
[02:44] <ubotu> rApJtR: Are you smoking crack?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[02:44] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:44] <reiki> stop playing with the bot
[02:44] <Artemis3> uh oh, the bot adds anything said here? ouch
[02:44] <apokryphos> Artemis3: not anything said here; anything you specifically tell it to have
[02:45] <bloodnik> How do I set up my DNS servers from command line?
[02:45] <noodle> i just installed nvidia and my refresh rate is 60Hz how do i set it higher? in "Screen Resolution" preference it's only 60Hz max??
[02:46] <JDigital> I had that problem too
[02:46] <JDigital> I don't know how I fixed it
[02:46] <lukas_> trying to install realplayer and I only get: ./hxplay-1.0.6.778-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:46] <noodle> :(
[02:46] <lukas_> can anyone help
[02:46] <JDigital> Are you using the official drivers from the website?
[02:46] <Seveas> bloodnik, vim /etc/resolv.conf
[02:46] <noodle> nope
[02:46] <nasenatmer> hui boo :)
[02:46] <JDigital> Use those then.
[02:46] <intelikey> noodle: you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[02:46] <noodle> i installed nvidia-glx like on the wiki page
[02:47] <noodle> intelikey: ok..
[02:47] <nasenatmer> Hello, got a short question to one of the Linux basic commands
[02:47] <JDigital> what about it
[02:47] <nasenatmer> How can I change back from root to my account in the shell?
[02:47] <intelikey> su - <user>
[02:47] <dooglus> exit
[02:47] <nasenatmer> aaah *doh*
[02:48] <variant> intelikey: thats not quite how
[02:48] <nasenatmer> too easy
[02:48] <variant> nasenatmer: type CTRL D
[02:48] <dooglus> be careful not to type two control-ds
[02:48] <variant> nasenatmer: CTRL D is the same as typing exit
[02:48] <JDigital> nintendo-ds
[02:48] <thoreauputic> heheh :)
[02:48] <noodle> intelikey: do i want to enable kernel framebuffer?
[02:48] <variant> nasenatmer: also logout.. same thing
[02:48] <nasenatmer> ah ok
[02:48] <variant> the command "logout"
[02:48] <intelikey> noodle: sure
[02:49] <nasenatmer> i'll try it instantly :)
[02:49] <variant> nasenatmer: do so! :P
[02:49] <nasenatmer> Thx for the fast help :)
[02:49] <thoreauputic> variant: logout only works in login shells
[02:49] <variant> thoreauputic: oops, so id does
[02:49] <JDigital> I wonder what's using all this space in my homedir
[02:49] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:49] <thoreauputic> JDigital: type du -h to see
[02:50] <variant> thoreauputic: in that case it would allow him to log out of his root shell that he used su to get into :)
[02:50] <nasenatmer> and, 2nd question, is there any difference between, terminal, shell, bash or MidNightcommander?
[02:50] <Artemis3> oh
[02:50] <thoreauputic> variant: no I doubt it - althoug I haven't tried...
[02:50] <variant> nasenatmer: midnight commander is a file manager
[02:50] <Artemis3> midnight commander is a file manager ^^'
[02:50] <intelikey> thoreauputic: JDigital use du / -h --max-depth=1
[02:50] <variant> thoreauputic: a su'd login is a login shell
[02:51] <wezzer> beagle's search tool best crashes when I try to run it
[02:51] <wezzer> any ideas?
[02:51] <bloodnik> cheers sev, that solved all my woes :D
[02:51] <thoreauputic> variant: yep you are right :)
[02:51] <nasenatmer> ah *g* ok I understand...
[02:51] <nasenatmer> I think I mixed sthing up...
[02:51] <thoreauputic> variant: I didn't know that worked!
[02:51] <thoreauputic> :D
[02:52] <variant> isint that a mIrc default slap? :o
[02:52] <gremid> hi, after upgrading from hoary to breezy, the new graphical boot progress screen does not show up; just the screen resolution changes. can anybody help?
[02:52] <JDigital> Is there a way to sort the results of du by size?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> variant: nope, it's mine :)
[02:52] <intelikey> nasenatmer: terminal=command line access  for a gui    shell=command interureter    midnight commander=cli file manager app.
[02:52] <thoreauputic> variant: and I've never used mirc :P
[02:53] <variant> thoreauputic: very glad to hear!
[02:53] <frickel> Can some help me? Firefox don't shows fonts in case it has to open a java applet...
[02:53] <tata> #mojokerto
[02:53] <JDigital> Ahaha, 183MB of .thumbnails
[02:53] <variant> JDigital: at a rough guess i would say du -h | sort -g
[02:54] <zyph> i'm having problems installing
[02:54] <sedeki> JDigital i hope you get paid for watching all that porn.
[02:54] <variant> JDigital: at a rough guess i would say du -h | sort -n i mean
[02:54] <tata> #jombang
[02:54] <zyph> i tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:55] <zyph> running breezy 5.04
[02:55] <apokryphos> breezy is 5.10
[02:55] <zukero> breezy = 5.10
[02:55] <zyph> it downloaded all the packages but won't install them
[02:55] <zukero> 5.04 = hoary
[02:55] <zyph> oh ok
[02:55] <apokryphos> zyph: for the guide on installing, see /topic
[02:55] <zyph> well i'm running the breezy test
[02:55] <zyph> i know i've looked at that guide
[02:55] <variant> JDigital: "du -h | sort -n" works very well
[02:55] <zyph> that's not the problem i'm having
[02:56] <variant> JDigital: you can | that too less for nice readable output
[02:56] <JDigital> It sorts "800MB" above "801K" though
[02:56] <zukero> if you are allready running breezy
[02:56] <FliesLikeABrick> ah, so nice that i finally have the ATI 3d drivers running on my laptop
[02:56] <zukero> no need for dist-upgrade
[02:56] <foxgamer> How cool is this Xfce desktop?
[02:56] <JDigital> I can leave off the -h but then it's not human-readable
[02:56] <zukero> use apt-get update
[02:56] <zyph> ok well i tried to upgrade my packages
[02:56] <nasenatmer> Thanks for your help, im going giving blood to the red cross! :)
[02:56] <nasenatmer> Cu!
[02:56] <zyph> did that like 10 times zukero
[02:56] <variant> JDigital: yes, you can put -H to use SI units instead too
[02:57] <zyph> it apt-get's the packages but won't install them
[02:57] <zukero> hmm
[02:57] <zyph> so if i did slocate newpackage
[02:57] <zyph> i'd have the newpackage.deb
[02:57] <thoreauputic> zyph: paste the errors on the pastebin - see topic
[02:57] <intelikey> slocate uses a database  it must be updated
[02:57] <intelikey> updatedb
[02:58] <zyph> slocate -u
[02:58] <zyph> i know intelikey
[02:58] <intelikey> k
[02:58] <zyph> updatedb is deprecated i think
[02:59] <intelikey> probably is
[02:59] <linkrjh>  Where would I go to ask questions about a dependency issue I am having?
[02:59] <linkrjh> I'm at loss.
[02:59] <bigfoot1> i have oo.o 1 and oo.o2 how do i remove everything that's got to do with oo.o1 (while keeping everything needed for oo.o2)?
[02:59] <zyph> yeah i had that prob in slack 10 with updatedb
[02:59] <foxgamer> Has anyone been having problems with Pype?
[02:59] <zyph> found out it was slocate -u now
[03:00] <variant> anyone know a command for coloring command output? kind of like pinfo but for generall output instead of man/info pages
[03:00] <intelikey> bigfoot1: maybe apt-get remove <blah>
[03:00] <Trackilizer> Why is VLC giving me errors about not found fonts.
[03:01] <intelikey> variant: how simple you looking for ?
[03:01] <Trackilizer> Worked fine untill 10 mins ago.
[03:01] <reiki> I should get going. I have a wedding to do this afternoon
[03:01] <variant> intelikey: ultra
[03:01] <zyph> what's a pastebin?
[03:01] <variant> zyph: pastebin.ocm
[03:01] <variant> zyph: pastebin.com
[03:01] <thoreauputic> !paste
[03:01] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:01] <intelikey> echo "$(printf "\033$( <your command here> )" ;printf "\033")"
[03:02] <variant> intelikey: hmm, nice!
[03:02] <occy> libssl0.9.7 was awaiting me this morning.
[03:02] <occy> heh
[03:02] <occy> the first new package of the Breezy era.
[03:02] <bytefoo> me too :L|
[03:02] <occy> :)
[03:02] <bytefoo> oh i had other new packages yesterday :/.
[03:02] <dooglus> occy: nice way to start Breezy, eh?  with an ssl hole :)
[03:03] <occy> dooglus, could have been worse to not have the bug fixed
[03:03] <linkrjh> Are there any channels dedicated to help?
[03:03] <bytefoo> this channel :|
[03:03] <variant> intelikey: echo "$(printf "\033$( df -h )" ;printf "\033")"
[03:03] <variant> bash: printf: `M': invalid format character
[03:03] <dooglus> occy: it wasn't fixed until after the image was frozen.  it'll be in all breezy cds
[03:03] <linkrjh> Hmm
[03:03] <linkrjh> That's no good
[03:03] <intelikey> variant: the    part is the color control
[03:03] <bytefoo> ;[
[03:04] <intelikey> you can use  1;3<0-9>
[03:04] <occy> dooglus, yeah, no worries here.  That's why God created apt-get update
[03:04] <occy> err
[03:04] <occy> and apt-get upgrade
[03:04] <occy> heh
[03:04] <bytefoo> god didnt create that
[03:04] <variant> intelikey: doesnt work mate.. i gotta go out now anyway.. i will look at it later. thanks
[03:04] <bytefoo> :O
[03:05] <occy> bytefoo, sure he(she?) did
[03:05] <occy> heh
[03:05] <dooglus> occy: that's ok if you're online.  but what if you're not online?  you're going to be open to a man-in-the-middl - uh, just a minute :)
[03:05] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is everyone else still getting errors when trying to add the Univers and Multiverse repositories in Breezy?
[03:05] <occy> dooglus, if you aren't online... I doubt you would need to worry about a man in the middle attack.
[03:05] <occy> heh
[03:06] <occy> but anyway
[03:06] <stimpie> I installing ubuntu and it asks to use "lvm" should I use that?
[03:06] <occy> peace
[03:06] <aftertaf> stimpie:  do you have logical volumes (dynamic disks in zondope)?
[03:06] <dooglus> occy: that was the "uh, wait a minute" bit :)
[03:06] <stimpie> aftertaf, the disk is empty
[03:06] <bytefoo> zondop? o_O
[03:06] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is everyone else still getting errors when trying to add the Universe and Multiverse repositories in Breezy?
[03:07] <intelikey> ah yea variant it only works for one line of text    for multi line it will take more code.
[03:07] <Knorrie_> Carpe_Libertatem: no
[03:07] <thoreauputic> !tell Carpe_Libertatem about repeat
[03:07] <Rev-Marc> is there a good download accelerator that works in Ubuntu?
[03:07] <Carpe_Libertatem> thoreauputic, people don't always see the question. :-P
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: 5 minutes is a reasonable interval
[03:08] <jussi_> Ubuntu finds my usb stick, but how I can read/edit files?
[03:08] <utnubu> has anyone managed to install breezy with an ecs k7s5a?
[03:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ok - I get an error when trying to update my repositories to include Universe and Multiverse. Can someone help with that?
[03:09] <dooglus> variant: that printf command again:
[03:09] <aftertaf> utnubu:  yep. my home pc has one.
[03:09] <dooglus> printf "\033$(df -h|sed 's/%/%%/g')\033\n"
[03:09] <sedeki> jussi_ does it have a fat fs?
[03:09] <dooglus> variant: the problem was that df outputs percent signs - so you have to double them up, or printf gets angry
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: wait a few hours and try again - the servers are overloaded
[03:09] <jussi_> fat
[03:09] <variant> dooglus: ahh! thanks
[03:09] <utnubu> aftertaf: what have you done? I have hal or hotplug errors
[03:10] <aftertaf> utnubu:  do you have any usb devices plugged in?
[03:10] <variant> dooglus: that worked.. excelent thank you
[03:10] <aftertaf> utnubu:  otherwise, i didnt actually DO anything.. it Just Worked (tm)
[03:11] <utnubu> aftertaf: no, some cables of cams, but without having attached them
[03:11] <Rev-Marc> is there a good download accelerator that works in Ubuntu?
[03:12] <fc9k> hmmmm
[03:12] <aftertaf> utnubu:  weird. does it boot ok otherwise?
[03:12] <bigfoot1> is it safe to remove all the stuff listed in synaptic/status/"Not Installed (residual config)"?
[03:12] <fc9k> anyone fancy giving me  abit of advice?
[03:12] <utnubu> aftertaf: would it be possible to make screenshots of your bios defaults for comparing them with mine? which bios have you installed?
[03:12] <foxgamer> fc9k: Ask and if someone knows the answer they will :)
[03:12] <ht> Rev-Marc:wget, int console
[03:12] <fc9k> ok
[03:13] <fc9k> well basically i'm about to dive into the linux world
[03:13] <utnubu> aftertaf: no, no boot possible, only with hotplug disabled
[03:13] <Rev-Marc> ht thanks
[03:13] <thirso> fc9k: gl
[03:13] <thirso> you'll need it
[03:13] <fc9k> i've got all my stuff backed up, and i'm about to reformat everything and install xp and then breezy
[03:13] <fc9k> and i'm not sure what the best way of partitioning stuff is, given that i've got 2 200gb HDDs
[03:14] <fc9k> i'd ideally like to be able to access all my music/videos/files etc from both OS's
[03:14] <Puky> Hey people! Does anybody know does Ubuntu have support for Ericsson hm220d adsl modem? I haven't found anything on linuxquetions...
[03:14] <thirso> linux can access fat and ntfs
[03:14] <fc9k> right
[03:14] <thirso> windows cant access shit
[03:15] <fc9k> i've been told to create 3 linux partitions: /, swap and /home
[03:15] <thoreauputic> fc9k: good advice
[03:15] <Chousuke> Linux can access 294827+n different filesystems.
[03:15] <ht> ubuntu auto mount your all ntfs and fat partition at starup.
[03:15] <fc9k> and then maybe another one in fat32 for both os's
[03:15] <decaf> help please, I really need a working AltGr key.
[03:15] <Chousuke> Windows knows maybe three or four
[03:15] <aftertaf> utnubu:  weird..... unplug the cables.   leave just mouse & keyb.
[03:15] <fc9k> ok
[03:15] <intelikey> fc9k: an fat32 partition would be good for read/write access from either
[03:15] <JDigital> Ahh. Freed up half a gig!
[03:15] <thirso> ht: it didnt mount here, is my ubuntu fooked up/?
[03:15] <ht> access it use path /media/hdax
[03:15] <foxgamer> fc9k: For a quick look at partitioning, have a look at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
[03:16] <JDigital> Is 491MB enough temp space to upgrade Hoary to Breezy?
[03:16] <fc9k> cheers
[03:16] <utnubu> aftertaf: ok, I'll try it now
[03:16] <ht> my ubuntu version: 5.10, what about you?
[03:16] <thirso> 5.10
[03:16] <thirso> neway im burning breezy now
[03:16] <Chousuke> JDigital: depends.
[03:16] <aftertaf> JDigital:  maybe, but empty apt cache first maybe
[03:16] <JDigital> I did
[03:16] <foxgamer> shiny and new :D
[03:16] <Puky> Does anybody know does Ubuntu have support for Ericsson hm220d adsl modem? Please help...
[03:16] <ht> thirso:me to.
[03:16] <aftertaf> JDigital:  you should make some space, you CAN live without porn you know ;)
[03:17] <thirso> so whats the point of creating a /home partition ?
[03:17] <JDigital> Pff. Maybe YOU can...
[03:17] <Chousuke> Puky: is it a USB modem?
[03:17] <Puky> a usb and a ethernet modem, you can choose
[03:17] <JDigital> Maybe I should have installed Ubuntu to more than a 4GB partition...
[03:17] <aftertaf> JDigital:  :D
[03:17] <Chousuke> Puky: then it depends on your network card.
[03:17] <thirso> MY NETWORK CARD IS STEWPID AND WONT WORK
[03:17] <thirso> on linux
[03:17] <aftertaf> JDigital:  yep..... thou you can boot via cd and expand it
[03:17] <Chousuke> What chip?
[03:17] <Puky> realtek rtl8139
[03:18] <JDigital> how
[03:18] <thirso> http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png
[03:18] <aftertaf> Puky:  mine works (tm)
[03:18] <Chousuke> Puky: that'll work.
[03:18] <ThomasM> Wow. The realtek cards should work on any OS.
[03:18] <Puky> aftertaf you have that modem?
[03:18] <bronson> JDigital: run "apt-get clean" of course.
[03:18] <thirso> fuck encore ><
[03:18] <ht> thirso: What chip?
[03:18] <aftertaf> JDigital:  mount root readonly, you can make it bigger.
[03:18] <thirso> Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT
[03:18] <aftertaf> Puky:  nope, the NIC
[03:18] <JDigital> I thought you needed PartitionMagic to increase the size of a partition without deleting the contents
[03:18] <TFP> how can i know, if a certain process is running?
[03:18] <aftertaf> lol ThomasM
[03:18] <JDigital> I ran apt-get clean already.
[03:18] <aftertaf> TFP:  PS -a | grep process
[03:19] <ht> thirso:what chip about your netcard.
[03:19] <aftertaf> or top
[03:19] <TFP> thx
[03:19] <aftertaf> ;)
[03:19] <bronson> JDigital: gparted will resize.
[03:19] <Puky> aftertaf so that modem should work, because i'd buy it but don't want to waste my money
[03:19] <JDigital> Spiffy.
[03:19] <thirso> ht: theres a E on it so i guess its encore
[03:19] <intelikey> thirso: if for want ever reason you ever need or want to completely redo your system all the stuff in /home can be safe there if it is a partition.   if it is just a subdir it is scraped with the rest of the system.   also if you have a major fs error that affects /home it wont hit the system....
[03:19] <bronson> You'll probably have to boot from a live CD because obviously it won't resize the boot partition.
[03:19] <TFP> aftertaf: thx
[03:19] <aftertaf> TFP:  no pbs ;:)
[03:20] <thirso> an E*
[03:20] <thirso> http://www.encore-usa.com/Drivers/ENL832-TX-ICNT_Drivers.zip
[03:20] <ht> thirso:I am looking for the device table of 5.10
[03:20] <thirso> thats the driver im trying to compile
[03:20] <thirso> ubuntu didnt detect it at all
[03:21] <Chousuke> Puky: if it has a network socket, it will not require any drivers.
[03:21] <Puky> network socket?
[03:21] <Puky> ethernet socket?
[03:21] <Chousuke> yes. :P
[03:21] <Chousuke> USB modems need drivers.
[03:21] <Puky> sorry :(
[03:21] <Puky> that's great
[03:21] <Chousuke> but ones with RJ45 don't. :)
[03:21] <Puky> rj45? (i really am a n00b :()
[03:21] <ht> ah, mail to the ubuntu.com :D
[03:21] <Chousuke> ethernet
[03:21] <JDigital> What happens if my Linux is on one drive but my /home/ is on another?
[03:21] <Puky> oh...
[03:22] <FliesLikeABrick> JDigital,  what do you mean "what happens?"
[03:22] <Chousuke> Puky: it should work :)
[03:22] <thirso> i need my ethernet card to work on linux or i cant access internet which makes linux useless for me :(
[03:22] <JDigital> oh
[03:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Puky,  rj45 = network cable
[03:22] <JDigital> I forgot to finish my sentence, heh
[03:22] <Chousuke> thirso: which chip?
[03:22] <Puky> chousuke: Thanks!
[03:22] <JDigital> What happens if my Linux is on one drive but my /home/ is on another, and my /home/ drive dies?
[03:22] <thirso> Chousuke: Encore
[03:22] <Trackilizer> Is it only me, or is updating really slow at the moment, I'm getting 25KB/s on a 3Mbit connection.
[03:22] <FliesLikeABrick> thirso,  what kind of network card?
[03:22] <Puky> JDigital
[03:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Trackilizer,  look at the topic
[03:22] <Proteque> JDigital: you loose your homedirs
[03:22] <Trackilizer> I see.
[03:23] <Chousuke> thirso: If you answered me, I missed it.
[03:23] <JDigital> But does Ubuntu rely on those for anything
[03:23] <Puky> Jdigital: nothing should happen it's like  a C: and E: drive on win, you have the system on one polace and documents on other
[03:23] <Trackilizer> I just didn't think it would be this slow.
[03:23] <Proteque> JDigital: nope
[03:23] <thirso> Chousuke: Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT , Ubuntu doesnt detect it.I get this error http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2979/screenshot29do.png when i try to compile this driver http://www.encore-usa.com/Drivers/ENL832-TX-ICNT_Drivers.zip
[03:23] <Chousuke> or is that Encore the chip? :P
[03:23] <Chousuke> duh
[03:23] <Chousuke> ok.
[03:23] <Chousuke> :D
[03:23] <JDigital> I mean all the settings for like the software in ~/.wine and ~/.evolution and so on
[03:23] <Puky> Jdigital: so?
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> JDigital,  as long as you have those /home files on that drive mounted at /home, it will act just as if it was a normal folder in / named home
[03:24] <thirso> ive posted it in 3 forums no anwers heh
[03:24] <Chousuke> thirso: you need linux-headers or linux-source
[03:24] <JDigital> What if /home/ is FAT32?
[03:24] <Chousuke> thirso: also, see if the drivers have a ./configure script.
[03:24] <JDigital> Does this cause any problems, other than file transfers complaining that they can't set the date?
[03:24] <Puky> Jdigital: i think you can't do that
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> JDigital,  i believe that FAT32 is read/write on linux, but i could be wrong
[03:24] <JDigital> FAT32 is
[03:24] <thoreauputic> JDigital: fat 32 doesn't know about unix permissions
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> if it is read/write, then it would work normally, just as if it was ext3
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> right, forgot about that thoreauputic
[03:25] <thoreauputic> JDigital: using fat 32 as home makes no sense
[03:25] <Proteque> JDigital: no problem.
[03:25] <thirso> Chousuke: the drivers files are Makefile,sundance.main.c and a bunch of .h
[03:25] <Proteque> thoreauputic: if he shares it with windows?
[03:25] <JDigital> Proteque is correct
[03:25] <Proteque> but better to install a ext-driver for windows
[03:25] <Chousuke> thirso: anyway, you need header files for your kernel.
[03:25] <fc9k> with 2 200gb discs, would it be a good idea to keep one windows only and the other linux?
[03:25] <JDigital> I want to have Windows able to access my music/porn/etc
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Proteque: you make a separate partition for that
[03:25] <thirso> Chousuke: i did apt-get
[03:25] <JDigital> Currently I just have my stuff symlinked
[03:26] <thirso> Chousuke: i got it
[03:26] <thoreauputic> JDigital: make a separate p0rn partition :)
[03:26] <thirso> still get the same error :/
[03:26] <MrManu> what is the matter about breezy-backports and extras?
[03:26] <Chousuke> thirso: you may need to edit the Makefile so it'll point to the right dir.
[03:26] <Chousuke> thirso: also, do you have linux-source
[03:26] <Chousuke> ?
[03:26] <JDigital> so that /home/ is in the same partition as /, but directories like "music" are symlinked to /mnt/myfat32harddrive/music/
[03:26] <thirso> Chousuke: hm i think i didnt apt-get it. ill try that
[03:26] <thirso> sucks to have to reboot to test it :/
[03:27] <Chousuke> not really.
[03:27] <thirso> yeah im on windows :/
[03:27] <fc9k> how big should i make /home and what is it used for?  anyone? :D
[03:27] <Chousuke> ah, duh.
[03:27] <fc9k> < newb
[03:27] <Trackilizer> Have you guys heard the latest version of the Linux show on the podcast network, the dude bashes Ubnutu and says i gives you as little choice as WinXP does.
[03:27] <JDigital> but it tends to happen that / drive gets filled with my homedir's hidden folders like like .evolution and .thumbnails
[03:27] <thirso> only have dsl and i need the ethernet for it
[03:27] <Chousuke> fc9k: it will contain all your personal files
[03:27] <Trackilizer> it*
[03:27] <fc9k> right
[03:28] <JDigital> What's he smoking? Ubuntu gives you far more choice. It's just too technical for the average user and doesn't come with anything near a decent newbies' manual.
[03:28] <MrManu> huh? backports?
[03:28] <thirso> Chousuke: is it linux-source-2.6.12-9 or just linux-source?
[03:28] <fc9k> Chousuke: so if i make /home say 40gb, then create a 160gb partition in fat32 for all my vids and music, and access that from both OSs, would that be ok?
[03:28] <JDigital> and software support in many important areas isn't as good, but that goes without saying for LInux
[03:28] <Chousuke> thirso: the former.
[03:28] <Trackilizer> Well, that's what he says, he was using Kanotix and changes to Ubuntu, he said it was the worst thing he ever did.
[03:28] <thirso> aight
[03:28] <JDigital> What's Kanotix
[03:29] <MrManu> fc9k and chousukethere is also an ext2/3 driver for winxp available
[03:29] <Chousuke> fc9k: yes. but do you need 40Gb in home then if all your big files are going to that FAT32 partition?
[03:29] <Trackilizer> fc9K, that's ok, that's what i do.
[03:29] <Chousuke> MrManu: yes.
[03:29] <JDigital> How well does the ext driver for Windows work?
[03:29] <MrManu> no permissoins, but read and write support as far as i know
[03:29] <cef> Trackilizer: people have opinions. ubuntu won't suit anyone. probably runs gentoo anyway *grin*
[03:29] <JDigital> and is it compatible with 2k
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: if sommeone thinks Ubuntu restricts them, they don't know enough - Ubuntu is just as configurable as Debian
[03:30] <cef> anyone = everyone even
[03:30] <cef> blah
[03:30] <_Temujin> vpnc rocks!
[03:30] <thoreauputic> or Kanotix for that matter
[03:30] <karolysas> how to uninstall default language??
[03:30] <_Temujin> !tell me about vpnc
[03:30] <karolysas> i cant refuse lithuanian letters...
[03:30] <JDigital> Wow, a person from Lithuania. Never seen one of those on the internet.
[03:30] <fc9k> wewt
[03:30] <MrManu> well configurable or not, why do the commented backports un breezy not work, there is no breezy-backports -.-
[03:30] <fc9k> so lets say 20gb for home
[03:31] <karolysas> isthat irc bot?
[03:31] <karolysas> lithuanian
[03:31] <cef> MrManu: cos as yet, there is nothing that isn't in dapper that isn't in breezy?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> MrManu: what is there to backport? breezy is only  a day old !
[03:31] <karolysas> he..
[03:31] <JDigital> hehe
[03:31] <MrManu> no sid, i meant backports like firefox 1.5 beta 2
[03:32] <JDigital> So how well does the ext2/3 driver work in Win2k? Anyone know?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> MrManu: you can get that from mozilla.org if you're desperately impatient
[03:32] <JDigital> If you can't compile your own software you don't deserve Firefox betas :)
[03:32] <MrManu> hmmm, i think i will use the hoary backports ^^
[03:32] <karolysas> so?? can anybody tell me how to fefuse my primary language coz i need english.. ?
[03:32] <bruder> JDigital, great for read-only use
[03:32] <thoreauputic> MrManu: give the developers a break, for haeven's sake
[03:33] <utnubu> aftertaf: weird, I took out the tekram scsi controller and now it works out of the box. strange, tekram never made me problems
[03:33] <bruder> JDigital, if you are brave you can turn on the read-write mode.
[03:33] <MrManu> jdigital why compile sth whar is already available as package? :)
[03:33] <JDigital> You have to compile your own, otherwise you aren't hardcore
[03:33] <thoreauputic> MrManu: stop whinging, please
[03:33] <cef> MrManu: is that in the hoary backports? you also realise that the backports stuff is done PURELY by the community, and not paid developers?
[03:34] <bruder> bleh. I've used to compile a lot of stuff, when I was a kid.
[03:34] <thoreauputic> OK all flames about the backports issue in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:34] <bruder> :p
[03:34] <cef> bruder: heh
[03:34] <MrManu> of course, just wondered why the backports deb http:..... didnt work ^^
[03:35] <cef> bruder: does that mean if you want to feel like a kid again, you'll start running gentoo? *grin*
[03:35] <bruder> cef, of course :p
[03:35] <BooZee> hello
[03:35] <BooZee> just upgraded to breezer
[03:36] <BooZee> have some problems with the networking
[03:36] <cius> did you do a dist-upgrade BooZee or a fresh install?
[03:36] <BooZee> fresh
[03:37] <cius> damn, I did a dist-upgrade last night from hoary to breezy and now I can't get some stuff from apt...not sure if they're related.
[03:37] <ian> Need some help with loadlin - any takers?
[03:37] <ian> trying to upgrade a lappy with no bootable devices.
[03:38] <BooZee> my networke is fucked up..
[03:38] <JDigital> check your network cable
[03:39] <bronson> cius: what can't you get?
[03:39] <fc9k> can i run my partitions past someone quickly to see if theyre ok?
[03:39] <spstarr_work> Congratulations on Breezy!
[03:39] <bronson> Yeah, Breezy is fantastic.
[03:39] <JDigital> I should probably sort out my stuff
[03:39] <spstarr_work> whens development begin on the next release? :)
[03:39] <bronson> I was real worried halfway through the mod-x upgrade.  :)
[03:40] <cjhcjhcjh> ian how did it go?
[03:40] <JDigital> 10GB for a Windows partition and 4GB for Linux isn't so good
[03:40] <thoreauputic> spstarr_work: when the developers sober up ;P
[03:40] <spstarr_work> hahaha
[03:40] <ian> cjhcjhcjh - not good my friend....
[03:40] <cius> bronson, I'm trying to get amule, but its tells me that some stuff "is not to be isntalled"
[03:40] <ian> still getting the same error...
[03:40] <echelon-h> hi
[03:40] <cjhcjhcjh> ian Mr Kernel Panic is in the house?
[03:41] <echelon-h> im running server 5.04, how can i upgrade to 5.10?
[03:41] <bronson> cius: usually if you try installing that stuff directly it'll give you more detail why it can't be installed.
[03:41] <KArhuton> How soon will there be a installation DVD available fro Breezy? All I could find was some rc tagged ones
[03:41] <bronson> Probably broken dependencies from Debian packages.
[03:41] <KArhuton> echelon-h: Look at topic
[03:41] <bronson> Usually easily resolved.
[03:41] <bronson> (using apt-cache search)
[03:41] <ian> cjhcjhcjh - he is, although the error is slightly differnet...
[03:41] <cius> bronoson, I'll try that, I appreciate the help
[03:41] <redguy|work> !tell echelon-h about upgrade
[03:41] <echelon-h> im using server = console only
[03:41] <echelon-h> is there a command to upgrade?
[03:41] <fc9k> DISK1: 15gb windows, 80gb windows apps etc, 25gb home, 15gb /, 0.5gb swap.  DISK2: 0.5gb swap, 199.5gb fat32 for music/films for both OSs
[03:42] <fc9k> does that look ok ^^^^?
[03:42] <cjhcjhcjh> ian error?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> !tell echelon-h about upgrade2breezy
[03:42] <dooglus> variant: I made some aliases to make it easier to use colors:
[03:42] <maswan> echelon-h: the upgrade guide in the topic has a section for apt-get
[03:42] <dooglus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3079
[03:42] <ian> cjhcjhcjh - running command again to get exact errror
[03:42] <fc9k> anyone?
[03:42] <_Temujin> Is there still a need for a seperate /boot partition in the first Gig of the boot disk?
[03:42] <echelon-h> maswan: and can you enter web sites from console? answer is:
[03:42] <BooZee> anybody here has an XJ700T MAG screen?
[03:42] <KArhuton> fc9k: 199GB is too much for FAT32
[03:42] <cjhcjhcjh> ian you need to boot to DOS to run the loadlin - it doesnt work in a shell
[03:43] <fc9k> awww
[03:43] <_Temujin> yes
[03:43] <_Temujin> wget
[03:43] <fc9k> KArhuton: whats the biggest?
[03:43] <_Temujin> lynx
[03:43] <redguy|work> echelon-h: the answer is lynx
[03:43] <KArhuton> fc9k: You can use EXT3 for it, and "ext2fsd" driver in Windows for read-only access
[03:43] <maswan> echelon-h: lynx or links or w3m springs to mind as text-based web browsers
[03:43] <fc9k> nah i need to write from both ideally
[03:44] <fc9k> its gonna have all my music and as i'm a linux newb i'll probably do all my tag updating in windows to start with
[03:44] <jasp> fc9k: I have 250gig fat32 partition, no problem.
[03:44] <spstarr_work> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ yeah i dont see Dapper yet on there ;-)
[03:44] <TFP> how can i kill all mono processes at a time?
[03:44] <fc9k> :S
[03:44] <_Temujin> ech> wget is great for grabbing specific files from web
[03:44] <KArhuton> jasp, what does XP say on that?
[03:44] <fc9k> conflicting info here then
[03:44] <ian> cjhcjhcjh yup I restarted in DOS
[03:44] <fc9k> whats the biggest fat32 xp will deal with?
[03:44] <JDigital> KArhuton: Can't it do read-write?
[03:44] <KArhuton> jasp, there's supposed to be a 32GB limit on XP with it
[03:44] <xerox> Hi.
[03:44] <Ng> fc9k: only about 32bg
[03:44] <Ng> b<>g
[03:44] <fc9k> oh what
[03:44] <xerox> Are there mirrors of breezy images?
[03:44] <fc9k> thats retarted
[03:44] <Ng> no
[03:44] <jasp> works fine, every modern large external drive, is still FAT32 formatted
[03:44] <Ng> it's quite sane really
[03:44] <fc9k> well is there any way linux can write to ntfs?
[03:45] <ian> cjhcjhcjh - unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[03:45] <jasp> that's how you buy them in the store.
[03:45] <fc9k> ah thats true, i have a 250gb fat32 external drive here next to me
[03:45] <KArhuton> fc9k: MS enforced 32GB limit on FAT32 to urge people to upgrade to NTFS
[03:45] <fc9k> what is with that then
[03:45] <Ng> jasp: indeed, but xp won't format than 32gb
[03:45] <KArhuton> Atleast used to
[03:45] <spstarr_work> 'As usual, the "dapper" repository will be opened after the release of
[03:45] <spstarr_work> Breezy'
[03:45] <spstarr_work> =)
[03:45] <cjhcjhcjh> ian pls paste your loadlin line
[03:45] <ian> cjhcjhcjh - the first error I was getting was exactly the same, just a different numeric value at the end (1,8)
[03:45] <jasp> fc9k: I'm not sure if you need to dwap drives though,
[03:45] <ptlo> heya all. i'd like to configure vino to have access to my desktop remotely. but, currently i am remotely connected to my box (via ssh). can i change vino properties this way, or do i have to log in on console? i'm using breezy, if that helps
[03:45] <spstarr_work> the partying is over
[03:45] <FliesLikeABrick> how long can we expect before stuff starts showing up in breezy backports?
[03:45] <spstarr_work> :)
[03:45] <redguy|work> fc9k: try googling for captive to get good ntfs support in linux
[03:46] <fc9k> ok
[03:46] <fc9k> well for now then, i'll keep all my media on my USB drive
[03:46] <KArhuton> rc9k, I suggest you go with FAT32 then
[03:46] <fc9k> and leave the 200gb SATA drive blank until I work out how big i can get it
[03:46] <ian> cjhcjhcjh Kernek panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[03:46] <fc9k> KArhuton: so can i have a 199gb fat32 one then?  or not?
[03:47] <KArhuton> fc9k: Apparently XP just refuses to format a > 32 GB partition, but doesn't mind using one
[03:47] <fc9k> oh right
[03:47] <fc9k> how ghey
[03:47] <fc9k> oh well, thats fine by me :)
[03:47] <cef> KArhuton: correct
[03:48] <cjhcjhcjh> ian pls paste your loadlin line
[03:48] <fc9k> any last minute advice for me then before i wipe everything?
[03:48] <KArhuton> fc9k, how much ram do you have?
[03:48] <fc9k> 1gb
[03:48] <TvM> how can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/392652 . the drive is empty...
[03:48] <KArhuton> fc9k, do you do some audio / video editing?
[03:48] <fc9k> i reckoned 1gb swap split over 2 drives would maybe be best
[03:48] <ian> cjhcjhcjh - not sure what you mean, sorry. You want the exact error msg?
[03:48] <fc9k> not yet, planning to do some audio stuff though
[03:49] <KArhuton> fc9k, my system's "free -m" says: Mem:          1012       1002          9
[03:49] <cef> fc9k: splitting it over 2 drives will work well
[03:49] <KArhuton> Swap:            0          0          0
[03:49] <fc9k> but i've got more hdd space than i need so i dont mind losing half a gig if its not used
[03:49] <fc9k> blimey
[03:49] <fc9k> you think i've got too much?
[03:49] <KArhuton> fc9k, I don't have any swap
[03:49] <KArhuton> 1GB ram
[03:49] <cjhcjhcjh> ian no, what line were you typing in to start the install...ie loadlin linux initrd-=....etc
[03:49] <fc9k> oh and btw, is it easy to set up these partitions in the installer
[03:49] <fc9k> blimey
[03:49] <ian> cjhcjhcjh oh sorry
[03:50] <thoreauputic> fc9k: it won't do any harm, but 500MB is probably enough (in case of emergencies)
[03:50] <Ng> fc9k: the kernel is tuned to expect twice as much swap as ram, although with 1gb ram it's unlikely you'll ever need the 2gb of swap. you do want some swap though
[03:50] <Ng> KArhuton: why not?
[03:50] <fc9k> ok
[03:50] <KArhuton> And I'm runing a win2k in vmware (128mb reserved, atleast), surf with firefox, compile, watch DVDs..
[03:50] <KArhuton> Ng, I don't need it?
[03:50] <cef> fc9k: unless you intend to suspend to disk using swap, then it's unlikely you'll need much swap (if any) if you have a gig.. depends on what you do though
[03:50] <fc9k> right
[03:50] <Ng> KArhuton: having some swap can be very useful, even if you don't ever use most of your ram
[03:50] <KArhuton> fc9k, You can use a swapfile if you need swap
[03:50] <TvM> how can help me? i get that msg every 2 s
[03:51] <fc9k> well i'll keep it at a gig to be safe, i dont want to juggle partitions later in the day
[03:51] <TvM> how can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/392652 . the drive is empty...
[03:51] <ian> cjhcjhcjh loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw --
[03:51] <HCl> hmmmm...
[03:51] <KArhuton> Ng, please explain
[03:51] <ian> cjhcjhcjh I also tried your suggestion but that didnt work either
[03:51] <fc9k> so is this ok?
[03:51] <HCl> assuming that my eventual window manager will be enlightenment, which should i start with, ubuntu, or kubuntu?
[03:51] <KArhuton> fc9k, you don't need swap parititons
[03:51] <fc9k> hmmm
[03:51] <fc9k> ok
[03:51] <KArhuton> fc9k, you can make a swapfile incase you need it
[03:51] <JDigital> Swap partitions are a good idea
[03:51] <cjhcjhcjh> ian try loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/ram rw
[03:51] <kemcco> ubuntu
[03:51] <thoreauputic> HCl: ubuntu probably
[03:51] <HCl> okay, thanks
[03:52] <fc9k> aside from then though, anything else wrong with that setup?
[03:52] <ian> cjhcjhcjh tried that but will give it another shot
[03:52] <HCl> yea, i was sort of wondering cause kde tends to be more userfriendly, but gnome works better combined with enlightenment..
[03:52] <cjhcjhcjh> ian it worked for me...
[03:52] <Ng> KArhuton: if you have some memory that is allocated, but hasn't been accessed for days (e.g. the memory relating to the programs running since bootup), the kernel can shunt that off to disk and free up some real ram, which is good because it can use that for buffers, so your system will be smoother :)
[03:53] <ProN00b> awmygod, on k3b my buffer status just jumps arround when burning a cd *_* and the average overall speed is like half of my burners speed
[03:53] <KArhuton> Ng, are you talking about cache?
[03:53] <ProN00b> is that normal ?
[03:53] <jasp> fc9k: why have a seperate partition for windows programs?
[03:53] <Howdy125> fc9k .. if you just need to move some files from an ntfs to a linux partition the linspire live cd may work for that ...
[03:53] <ian> cjhcjhcjh some error boss...
[03:53] <Ng> KArhuton: pretty much, yeah
[03:53] <ian> cjhcjhcjh same
[03:53] <cef> if you've got enough ram, then swap becomes a personal preference.. and to me, that preference depends entirely on what I intend to do with the machine. if I intend to do anything intensive (eg: graphics), I add swap every time, cos the last thing I want is to lose something I'm editing cos I've run out of ram
[03:54] <KArhuton> Ng, I have 641MB of my ram cached
[03:54] <sally_> when I go to add applications and search for apt, the package apt-listchanges doesn't show up, but from a console I can do sudo apt-get install apt-listchanges and it is downloaded and installed.  Why doesn't apt-listchanges show up in "add applications"
[03:54] <agent_> does anyone know the config file/place to edit eth0, eth1, etc. name entries? that is, where one can manually delete these?
[03:54] <cjhcjhcjh> ian 1 sec...checking something
[03:54] <KArhuton> Ng, If some of my apps need unusually large amount of ram, it'll use the space from that cache
[03:54] <sedeki> how can i change encoding from utf8?
[03:54] <Ng> KArhuton: I have nearer 750mb of cache and a little bit of swap used, but only 260mb of ram actually allocated to apps
[03:54] <jasp> fc9k:if you re-install windows, you have to re-install the program files anyway..
[03:54] <Ng> KArhuton: indeed, so having more cache space is good :)
[03:55] <ian> cjhcjhcjh anything I cant tell you about my lappy to help you out?
[03:55] <fc9k> yeah
[03:55] <KArhuton> Ng, reloading the cached files isn't much slower than reading it from swap
[03:55] <fc9k> i dunno really, reckon i'd be better sticking all windows progs/games etc on th same partition as windows?
[03:55] <dataw0lf> n
[03:55] <fc9k> certainly would make stuff seasier
[03:55] <Ng> KArhuton: I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying, it doesn't matter and isn't relevant here.
[03:55] <thoreauputic> sally_: becuse if all the apps available were there, you would have 17 000 choices :)
[03:56] <TvM> how can i solve these problem?? i get these msg every 2 s http://pastebin.com/392652 . the drive is empty...
[03:56] <thoreauputic> sally_: everything shows in synaptic package manager though
[03:56] <Chousuke> I wonder if there is a computer that could run all 17k apps offered by Debian at the same time.
[03:56] <fc9k> jasp: reckon i'd be better sticking all windows progs/games etc on th same partition as windows?
[03:56] <KArhuton> Ng, what 'buffers' are you talking about?
[03:56] <JDigital> I bet a beowulf cluster could do it
[03:56] <Chousuke> :o
[03:56] <cef> Chousuke: not all 17k of them are installable at once, due to conflicts
[03:57] <Chousuke> ah, that's true.
[03:57] <ian> cjhcjhcjh What about the possibility of copying the iso image to a partition and booting to that some how?
[03:57] <jasp> fc9k: yeah, why not. 15 GB would be fine for windows+apps, just add the rest to the big FAT32 partition, and install the games there.
[03:57] <fc9k> hmmm
[03:57] <KArhuton> Ng, you're saying, that some of the cache can be swapped inorder to have some actually free ram for ... buffering?
[03:57] <Chousuke> and some of them are metapackages.
[03:57] <fc9k> jasp: why?  can the games be accessed by linux then?
[03:57] <bronson> And a lot of them are utilities like "ps" that run and exit immediately.
[03:57] <Ng> KArhuton: no, some of the allocated ram can be swapped to make space for cache
[03:57] <cjhcjhcjh> ian yep could do...but do you have enough space for all that?
[03:57] <sally_> thoreauputic, do you know what the criteria is for allowing packages to show up there?  or where I can find it?
[03:58] <ProN00b> humm, why swap, or have harddisk anyway ?
[03:58] <KArhuton> Ng, what do you mean by allocated ram?
[03:58] <Chasake> Hello there, anyone familiar with IMAP under evolution in Breezy Badger
[03:58] <ProN00b> just run your system on ram only
[03:58] <KArhuton> Ng, running apps?
[03:58] <titi> hi everyone ;)
[03:58] <ian> cjhcjhcjh Ive got 3GB spare
[03:58] <thoreauputic> sally_: no, sorry - but if you want to browse, just use the more advanced synaptic
[03:58] <Chousuke> ProN00b: Some people do that :)
[03:58] <Ng> KArhuton: apps yes, but in this case sleeping apps more likely
[03:58] <Chousuke> ProN00b: but it's not very safe if you want to preserve your data.
[03:59] <jasp> Don't really know, but that's how I do it. :-)
[03:59] <ian> cjhcjhcjh Any idea how I can get win98 to boot to the partition and not windows?
[03:59] <Chousuke> unless you use a network filesystem. hmm.
[03:59] <thoreauputic> sally_: I believe there's an "advvnced" button in breezy that starts synaptic anyway
[03:59] <titi> does anybody have sound probs.. like no sound at all?
[03:59] <KArhuton> Ng, so I might be losing up to 100MB on apps that aren't doing anything?
[03:59] <cjhcjhcjh> ian the only difference I can see with your setup and mine is this; I had a boot-loader installed, as I already had w98 and w2k installed. I used partition magic to clear some blank space first. I am just thinking that maybe it worked because I had a bootloader running
[03:59] <KArhuton> Which could be used as cache instead..
[03:59] <sally_> thoreauputic, ok  thanks.  yeah I found it
[03:59] <thoreauputic> sally_:  :)
[03:59] <jasp> I have the windows partition as NTFS (it came with the laptop). So I try to keep that as small as possible. :-)
[03:59] <cjhcjhcjh> ian to answer your q...partition magic, and...sec...I will give you a useful url
[03:59] <cef> Chasake: what's the problem?
[03:59] <ProN00b> Chousuke, if you only load your system on the ram and have a small disk mounted to /home, its perfect ^^
[04:00] <Ng> KArhuton: that's the idea, yes. you're not "losing" it as such, it's just that the kernel can use it for things that will help you right now :)
[04:00] <Chousuke> ProN00b: if you have enough RAM.
[04:00] <KArhuton> Ng, that's isn't too good of a tradeoff
[04:00] <Chousuke> I think you need at least 2GB to accomplish that on a Desktop
[04:00] <Chousuke> and the boot times would be long.
[04:00] <cef> Chousuke: add to that "for what you want to do".
[04:01] <jcs> Could anyone direct me to a breezy repository that contains libdvdcss2 or similar?  Multiverse/universe/restricted aren't giving me anything.
[04:01] <ProN00b> how much is breezy after its installed ?
[04:01] <Chasake> cef: very strange, if I copy my old settings from Debian and I use IMAP, using a server-folder (called IMAP-Mail) where all my subfolders of mail reside, ONLY these subfolders are shown but NO inbox
[04:01] <Ng> KArhuton: I think it is (and virtual memory experts agree, which is why all decent kernels do this). I'd rather have my many openoffice windows have slightly more cache available to them than to have the web browser window I haven't looked at for days live in RAM for no particular reason
[04:01] <ian> cjhcjhcjh Japan?
[04:01] <Chasake> cef: If I switch to IMAPv4 the opposite occurs, ONLY the INBOX is shown but not the list of subfolders.
[04:02] <cjhcjhcjh> ian yeah japan...am looking for url
[04:02] <jasp> fc9k:you might want to have the windows partition as ntfs, because some software refuses to run on anything else.
[04:02] <Chasake> cef: I tried to find out where it goes wrong and it SEEMS like the fact that my home account is mounted on NFS causes this behavior
[04:02] <fc9k> yeah
[04:02] <ian> cjhcjhcjh Cool, Im in Singapore. Taking a trip to Tokyo next month actually
[04:02] <cef> Chasake: hrm I haven't changed my config since I upgraded from Hoary.. so no idea there.. but could that be related to the server? what's the cerver running?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> !tell jcs about restricted
[04:03] <KArhuton> Ng, you'll be needing 750 and not 650 MB for those OOo files?
[04:03] <ProN00b> how can i backup my stuff in /home/sweethome best to /mnt/hda ?
[04:03] <Chasake> cef: If i use my girlfriends account who does not have her home dir mounted on NFS, it works fine. So I copied her .gconf/evolution to my homedir, then her account work just fine
[04:03] <Howdy125> jcs try deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[04:03] <KArhuton> Ng, I don't see an issue there when there's so much ram available
[04:03] <Chasake> Cef: As soon as i change ONLY the login name in the running evolution, the problem comes back
[04:03] <KArhuton> Ng. Maybe if the system had only 512
[04:04] <Ng> KArhuton: *shrug*, you don't have to like it if you don't want to, it's true ;)
[04:04] <Chasake> Cef: we both use the same IMAP connection
[04:04] <KArhuton> Ng, then there's an difference between 100 and 200
[04:04] <Chasake> Cef: and the server runs wuimapd I though
[04:04] <cef> Chasake: ok, thgat is just weird.. might want to log it as a bug
[04:04] <fc9k> Jasp: right, heres my final partition plan: DISK 1: [Windows/programs/games - 60gb, / - 15gb, home - 25gb, swap - 0.5gb]     DISK 2: [swap - 0.5gb, files - 190gb] 
[04:04] <titi> sorry-- i'm new to this...but can anyone help me with a sound prob??
[04:04] <KArhuton> Ng, I rather have all my apps be responsive as long as they're running
[04:04] <fc9k> think thats all sexeh
[04:05] <Chasake> cef: yes, would think so :) but this makes breezy unusable for me at this moment :(
[04:05] <HCl> gheh.
[04:05] <HCl> someone should just code an prefetch cache for linux
[04:05] <Chasake> cef: Where can I file that bug?
[04:05] <HCl> like windows xp has
[04:05] <fc9k> right, any last minute advice from anyone before i wipe it all and reformat?
[04:05] <Chasake> cef: in ximian lists or on ubuntu lists?
[04:05] <thoreauputic> KArhuton: this discussion about swap has been well and truly decided - in Ng's favour I believe - on the kernel mailing lists etc
[04:05] <fc9k> are partitions easy to sort with the ubuntu installer?
[04:05] <jasp> fc9k: looks good :-)
[04:05] <cef> Chasake: probably via bugzilla or on ubuntu-user
[04:05] <fc9k> jasp: cheers for your help mate :)
[04:05] <nomed> hi all
[04:06] <nomed> is there an irc chan for xubuntu ?
[04:06] <KArhuton> thoreauputic: The discussion is irrelevant in this case, I'd say
[04:06] <Howdy125> fc9k .. yes .. backup what you forgot to back up .. :-)
[04:06] <fc9k> lol
[04:06] <jasp> yeah, you have to tell the installer what type the partition will be, and where to mount it
[04:06] <fc9k> i cant remember
[04:06] <jasp> it's not so complex
[04:06] <KArhuton> thoreauputic: I favor swap usage on low memory system, ofcourse
[04:06] <fc9k> jasp: right, any stuff i should know for that?
[04:06] <Chasake> cef: thanks, I think i will do that.
[04:06] <thoreauputic> KArhuton: well, as Ng says , you can do as you prefer :)
[04:06] <cef> Chasake: only other thing I could suggest is to delete or move the on-disk mailboxes if you're doing syncronisation
[04:06] <ProN00b> can anyone tell me whats the safest cp to backup /home ?
[04:06] <cjhcjhcjh> great, mail me and have a beer! chris_hopkin@hotmail.com  I am in Tokyo. still looking for url
[04:07] <Chasake> cef: I just today switched from debian unstable today and there it works fine, the whole debian system runs over NFS
[04:07] <KArhuton> thoreauputic: Well some idiot had suggested to fc9k to use 1GB of cache and create partitions for it
[04:07] <cef> Chasake: if you need the mailboxes, you might be able to re-import them (assuming you move them)
[04:07] <jasp> i would make /home and / ext3 filesystems, I'm not sure if you can format to NTFS though, maybe leave that blank, and let the XP installer format it.
[04:07] <Chasake> cef: Well it all uses imap and I deleted .evolution as well
[04:07] <dooglus> perhaps you could move the argument on to how you pronounce "cache"?  It seems to have got a bit stuck.
[04:08] <thoreauputic> KArhuton: I'm not getting into this :)
[04:08] <fc9k> jasp: i was gonna install xp first anyway and create the ntfs shizinit there, then let ubuuntu make  a nice bootloader and do the ext3 and fat stuff within that
[04:08] <ProN00b> i suggest installing windows on fat if its on a linux box (still possible with all windows afaik)
[04:08] <Chousuke> no.
[04:08] <dooglus> I used to have a boss who insisted on saying it like "kay-sh".  It never stopped winding me up.
[04:08] <Chousuke> or well.
[04:08] <Chasake> cef: so the messages stay on the server, but that perhaps where evolution does not like it anymore. The IMAP-Mail dir is in my home dir on the server but on my own home-dir as well, because it is mounted over NFS
[04:08] <windex> dooglus, offtopic arguments go to -offtopic, where we will happily mock stupid opinions without prejudice.
[04:09] <Chousuke> if you're going to run as admin anyway... it doesn't matter.
[04:09] <jasp> fc9k: ah yes, that's probably a better plan. Are you sure you have an XP install cd, and not a recovery disk?
[04:09] <robsta> hi, can i find source debs for firefox-beta2 anywhere?
[04:09] <Chasake> cef: It is so very strange. I can't explain why it just does not work.
[04:09] <dooglus> whenever I try to burn an ISO to a CD, I get told that there's only 5Mb left on the CD.
[04:09] <dooglus> both Windows and Linux tell me the same
[04:09] <jasp> becuse then I don't know if you should format it...
[04:09] <Chasake> cef: And why should I all of a sudden start using IMAPv4 where just IMAP worked fine before
[04:09] <dooglus> and I've tried it with lots of new, blank CD media
[04:09] <bruder> tip for the people that is dist-upgrading to breezy: make shure that you have the meta-package ubuntu-desktop installed before.
[04:09] <dooglus> wtf?
[04:10] <bruder> mine hasnt
[04:10] <ProN00b> dooglus, did you check the md5 sum of your .iso ?
[04:10] <fc9k> jasp : don't worry, i have a full complement of microsoft software :D
[04:10] <dooglus> ProN00b: yes - but that shouldn't make any difference anyway...  it's just bits as far as the burning process goes.
[04:10] <Chasake> cef: if I choose just IMAP the inbox does not appear at my girlfriends account too BTW
[04:10] <jasp> fc9k: Right ;-)
[04:10] <dooglus> ProN00b: and it happens whatever I try to burn
[04:10] <Chasake> cef: anyway, gotta go. Thanks
[04:10] <Chousuke> bruder: this update of mine wants to remove ubuntu-desktop for some reason.
[04:11] <Chousuke> Weird, but I can always fix it manually. :)
[04:11] <jasp> fc9k:Well good luck then. :-)
[04:11] <ProN00b> dooglus, did you try k3b ?
[04:11] <fc9k> jasp: cheers
[04:11] <LazyAngel> how do i restart my network adapter? /etc/init.d/eth0 restart isn't the right command :(
[04:11] <fc9k> right, goobye all, i'm off to reinstall :D
[04:11] <Chousuke> LazyAngel: sudo ifdown eth0
[04:11] <dooglus> ProN00b: no, I was worried it might contain KDE or traces of KDE.  I'm allergic.
[04:11] <Chousuke> and sudo ifup eth0
[04:11] <LazyAngel> Chousuke: thanks
[04:12] <ProN00b> kde is teh borg, resistance is futile
[04:12] <Chousuke> KDE hasn't assimilated me yet.
[04:12] <cef> dooglus: what are you using to burn cd's under linux?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: heh - like the peanut packet that says "Warning: this food may contain peanuts!" :D
[04:12] <ProN00b> its just libraries -_-
[04:12] <dooglus> cef: cdrecord
[04:13] <cef> dooglus: running breezy?
[04:13] <dooglus> cef: mostly
[04:13] <cef> dooglus: try gnomebaker
[04:13] <Chousuke> ProN00b: kdelibs install quite a lot of stuff with them :po
[04:13] <Chousuke> -o*
[04:13] <dooglus> cef: I updated from hoary about 3 months ago, so the system has been all over the place.  I guess now it might be breezy, if apt has been keeping tabs on things properly
[04:13] <cef> dooglus: it's not as full featured as cdrecord, but it seems to work for me
[04:13] <dooglus> cef, ok, I'll try that.
[04:14] <dooglus> cef: did you mean 'k3b' there?
[04:14] <BockBilbo> hello
[04:14] <Chousuke> cef: hum, gnomebaker is a cdrecord frontend as far as I know.
[04:14] <cef> dooglus: gnomebaker is funnily enough a gnome program
[04:14] <ivar> q: after upgrading to breezy, my 'java' now points to gij and not the Sun java I've installed with make-java-package.. how do I get the sun java back ?
[04:15] <Chousuke> aren't most linux CD burner GUIs such
[04:15] <cef> dooglus: hang on.. you've got space issues with burning an iso? are you burning on 74 min or 80 min disks?
[04:15] <dooglus> cef: right.  but you compared it with cdrecord.  I wondered if you meant to compare it with k3b
[04:15] <thoreauputic> cef: you can tell because it doesn't start with a "K" ;P
[04:15] <robbkidd> Evolution/Exchange problem:  I can't seem to open my Exchange account's Sent Items folder.  Error: "Could not get new messages." All other folders work fine.
[04:15] <dooglus> cef: 700m
[04:15] <cef> dooglus: ahh sorry.. meant to compare it with cdroast.. got confused
[04:15] <Da_SWAT> hi all. I upgraded to breezy and noticed I had some errors. 1. I think I chose the wrong locale (some of text looks funny) 2. I got errors during the update (OoO returned error code). How can I 'redo' the entire upgrade process or something?
[04:15] <cef> thoreauputic: heh
[04:15] <Faw_> hello, I'm looking for the mbexamine program that should come with cyrus21 but it isn't in any package, all I can find is a man page for it in the cyrys21-doc package
[04:16] <dooglus> cdroast?  I don't know that one.  is that kde?  gnome?  neutral?
[04:16] <FatherTyme> Anyone have any love getting the wireless interface on an Area-51m to work?
[04:16] <Chousuke> it's for X afaik
[04:16] <Chousuke> xcdroast
[04:16] <thoreauputic> cef: all the better KDE apps don't start with K, though - amaroK ends with a K instead ;P
[04:16] <ian> ian
[04:16] <dooglus> what about using nautilus to burn the ISO?  that seems to be the simplest way.
[04:16] <cef> dooglus: neutral.. still a front end to cdrecord though.. but while it can do interesting stuff, I found it painful after a while
[04:16] <thoreauputic> dooglus: xcdroast is old, but works well
[04:17] <dan> good morn I am an IRC newb
[04:17] <cjhcjhcjh> ian still there? check out =http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/freedos_no_removable.html
[04:17] <robbkidd> Faw: Very true. That's all I see, too.
[04:18] <mateus>  hello ppl
[04:18] <thoreauputic> hello dan :)
[04:18] <limguohong91> Hi guys, how do i play mpg file on Totem player?
[04:18] <dan> :-)
[04:18] <Nikyo> dan: Welcome aboard
[04:18] <cef> anyway, time to go do other stuff
[04:18] <dan> thanks.
[04:18] <cef> later
[04:18] <dooglus> I put in a blank CD.  a dialog popped up: "burn audio, photo or data cd?".  I want to burn an iso - that's kind of data - but is 'data' the right answer here?
[04:18] <dan> ubuntu is the shiznit
[04:18] <dooglus> thanks cef.  bye.
[04:19] <El_Che> dooglus: no
[04:19] <El_Che> dooglus: cancel and open a burn proggie
[04:19] <BockBilbo> im trying to run a backup of my wordpress blog on my laptop and i have installed php4, mysql-server, apache2, and the corresponding packages to make them work together.... but i get an error saying: "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress." ... ive checked if the access to the mysql server, and its fine from the terminal using the user that wordpress uses, and in # wordpress they have to
[04:19] <BockBilbo> ld me to ask here...
[04:19] <TFP> can i log on to my ubuntu server with vnc even when i lock it down?
[04:19] <Faw_> I thought I was doing something wrong, I need mbexamine for the webmin Cyrus module
[04:20] <BockBilbo> anyone knows what might be happening?
[04:20] <ian> cjhcjhcjh yup thanks! appreciate your help. will take a look now.
[04:20] <TimM> dooglus: I heven't tried it yet, but my brother said he just right-clicked the ISO image and selected 'burn to ROM' or something like that.
[04:20] <dan> TFP: what do you mean lock it down
[04:20] <Paradoxx> !mounnt
[04:20] <mateus> how do i config my laptop's widescreen resolution in ubuntu?
[04:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Paradoxx
[04:20] <dan> if the service is still a'runnin, you should be fine
[04:20] <windex> !mount
[04:20] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[04:21] <mateus> !windowsdrives
[04:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:21] <Paradoxx> lol, ty
[04:21] <cjhcjhcjh> ian hope it helps. I think it might be unhappy with your boot partition; installing bootmagic might help. Also will make life easier if you use partition magic to clear some space prior to the install, like 2Gb or more
[04:21] <TFP> dan:  you can lock the desktop
[04:21] <dan> right
[04:21] <dan> he should be ok with the vnc server runnin'
[04:22] <TFP> ah ok
[04:22] <bretzel> I've just re-installed Breezy from scratch, but before I had tried Kubuntu Breezy and a part from beeing cool KDE centric env, I feel it is not complete has Ubuntu is... and BTW, "adept" pkg manager is ....useless - I am too much used to synaptic :-)
[04:22] <dan> but would it be cooler to ssh in to the box
[04:23] <dan> pop off an xterm
[04:23] <movies1978> I agree adept and kynaptic are useless
[04:23] <limguohong91> Hey guys, how do i play a mpg file on Totem Player?
[04:23] <sally_> in synaptic, what does the small ubuntu logo signify, between the column labeled "S" and "Package"
[04:23] <apokryphos> movies1978: adept is hardly useless
[04:23] <apokryphos> movies1978: but it's not synaptic and it's not kpackage.
[04:23] <thoreauputic> sally_: supported packages
[04:24] <TFP> yeah it would ;)
[04:24] <ProN00b> why did they make that strange totem player their default player ?_?
[04:24] <titi> does anyone have problems with sound on this release?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> sally_: i.e. ones in the "main" repo
[04:24] <dan> super dumb irc question
[04:24] <padmawan> limguohong91: use totem-xine
[04:24] <movies1978> useless is a bit harsh, but synaptic on kdefied would be much nicer
[04:24] <dan> i want to find a java channel
[04:24] <thoreauputic> sally_: the others are "community supported"
[04:24] <jasp> limguohong91:check out ubuntuguide.org, the part about installing additional codecs.
[04:24] <apokryphos> dan: ##java
[04:24] <dan> flames welcome
[04:24] <dan> oh groove
[04:24] <apokryphos> !tell jasp about ubuntuguide
[04:24] <limguohong91> totem-xine?
[04:24] <dan> ##java
[04:24] <dan> oops
[04:25] <sally_> thoreauputic, ok thanks
[04:25] <padmawan> limguohong91: right, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:25] <dan> what a great username thoreauputic
[04:25] <limguohong91> I see.
[04:25] <ProN00b> how do i backup my /home best ? (what parameters does cp need ?) i wana do a breezy install from scratch
[04:25] <limguohong91> Okay
[04:25] <limguohong91> Thanks
[04:25] <thoreauputic> dan: glad you like it :)
[04:25] <apokryphos> ProN00b: ideally you want to have your / and /home on a seperate partition
[04:26] <ProN00b> apokryphos, how do i backup it now since i didn't do that ? *_!
[04:26] <jasp> apokryphos: ah I see, thanx.
[04:26] <os2mac> this is a wlan question.
[04:27] <os2mac> where is the essid and the key stored?
[04:27] <apokryphos> ProN00b: you could tar it and put it somewhere. Though you won't want to if it's too big
[04:27] <os2mac> ProNOOB there is always tar and gzip as well
[04:27] <bretzel> HELP: I have < ATI TV WONDER PRO  > and dunno if it is already setup/configured on Breezy-fresh install -- What do I have to do for seeing it working ? any hints ?
[04:27] <limguohong91> How do i enable root user?
[04:27] <pinucset> su sudo
[04:27] <movies1978> id wlan is pcmcia
[04:27] <bloodnik> Me again :/
[04:27] <ProN00b> apokryphos, i just want to copy it as it is on a mounted vfat partition to preserve it when i kill the hedgehog
[04:27] <thoreauputic> !tell limguohong91 about root
[04:27] <movies1978> then it is /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts
[04:28] <os2mac> no wlan0 is mini-pci
[04:28] <bloodnik> For some reason, if I install ftpd on my server, I can't connect to it, I can't run it, and I can't get a manpage for it.
[04:28] <apokryphos> ProN00b: so do it :). A simple cp -r /home /some/other/partition/.
[04:28] <movies1978> try look there anyway
[04:28] <bloodnik> Is there a better alternative to ftpd that actually works? :\
[04:28] <bwlang> ProN00b: i suggest you tar it up with  tar -czf homebackup.tgz /home
[04:28] <bretzel> woah! Download speed @32kb/s only --- servers over charged! :-) :-)
[04:28] <[LethAL] > bloodnik, search synaptic :P
[04:28] <bloodnik> No GUI
[04:28] <ian> cjhcjhcjh Will let you know how I get on. Thanks again for all your help. Even If Idont get it running you've been great
[04:29] <bloodnik> There's pro-ftpd but IIRC that's harder to use
[04:29] <bwlang> bloodnik: i prefer vsftpd
[04:29] <bretzel> HELP: I have < ATI TV WONDER PRO  > and dunno if it is already setup/configured on Breezy-fresh install -- What do I have to do for seeing it working ? any hints ?
[04:29] <[LethAL] > bloodnik, Daemons don't have GUIs
[04:29] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: pureftpd
[04:29] <[LethAL] > ^^
[04:29] <bloodnik> [LethAL] , synaptic, however, needs the GUI :p
[04:29] <[LethAL] > Factoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...
[04:29] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: that might have a hyphen - pure-ftpd
[04:29] <ProN00b> apokryphos, -r will suffice, don't i need other special parameters for links and permissions (not important) and stuff ?
[04:29] <bloodnik> cool
[04:29] <[LethAL] > No Factoid Match
[04:29] <apokryphos> ProN00b: nope
[04:29] <[LethAL] > script going off
[04:29] <bwlang> bretzel: do you see something on your screen? - if so it's working.  If you want to be sure that you're using the correct driver you could look in /var/log/Xorg.log
[04:29] <bloodnik> put the script in the fridge then
[04:30] <[LethAL] > I did
[04:30] <apokryphos> ProN00b: once you copy over the /home folder, and you have X user, you'll want to re-chmod the whole /home/x/ directory anyhow
[04:30] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: if you want an admin GUI there's pureadmin
[04:30] <TimM> ProN00b, I use cp -a.  Dunno if that's enough or not.
[04:30] <bwlang> apokryphos: that's why i usggested tar...
[04:30] <bloodnik> thoreauputic, I want one that I can manage without a gui
[04:30] <cjhcjhcjh> ian good luck; and I never refuse a beer here in Tokyo ;-)
[04:30] <[LethAL] > Argh... Off now, byw
[04:30] <apokryphos> bwlang: why?
[04:30] <bloodnik> Cos I'm sshing in
[04:30] <bretzel>  bwlang:I am not there yet: bttv modules not loaded automagically ...
[04:30] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: well , you don't need a gui for pure-ftpd
[04:30] <bwlang> apokryphos, proN00b: tar will automatically do the username conversion
[04:31] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: and it's very simple
[04:31] <bloodnik> I installed it. Now I'm going to find out how to set it up.
[04:31] <BooZee> wow. at last! the breezy is working just fine!
[04:31] <bloodnik> does it, by any chance, automatically create accounts from passwd?
[04:31] <apokryphos> bwlang: semi-self-defeating, since a chown takes a matter of seconds.
[04:31] <ProN00b> thanks, TimM, -a seems like a good choice
[04:31] <bwlang> bretzel: you don't need bttv modules for X to work... if your talk
[04:31] <bwlang> apokryphos: not if you have multiple users
[04:31] <BooZee> got my new lcd SAMSUNG SyncMaster 730b screen!
[04:31] <apokryphos> bwlang: if he had *loads*, then yes, indeed not. I doubt that's the case however.
[04:31] <bwlang> apokryphos: especially not if you have a shared directory with different ownership
[04:32] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: it uses existing accounts IIRC and of course you can add accounts
[04:32] <bloodnik> excellent.
[04:32] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: it just runs on installation
[04:32] <bloodnik> ftp: connect: connection refused :(
[04:32] <bretzel>  bwlang: I did modprobe bttv tho ... yes they are lodaed but I am about to install mythtv & co and wondering how it will detect and configure the tv card ... I have to say I am newbie about tv cards... it is a new addition :-)
[04:32] <cjhcjhcjh> I still think I am misisng packages...shouldnt I have man? What else do I have to apt-get?
[04:32] <bwlang> bretzel: if you're talking about tv display then i can't help you
[04:32] <BooZee> say, how can I config the screen (or ubuntu) to show the fonts correctly?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: try from another machine on the LAN
[04:32] <BooZee> i have a new LCD screen
[04:33] <bloodnik> same, thoreauputic
[04:33] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: hmm - worked OK here :(
[04:33] <bloodnik> ftpd works on here too
[04:33] <cjhcjhcjh> bretzel, I have spent far too many hours fighting with TV cards. My advice is to throw it away NOW before it turns all your hair grey. Buy a telly...it will save ISA-shaped holes in the walls.
[04:34] <bretzel> mythtv seems really great and the only one central TV media center: went to zapit labs and configured my lineup - got all my local broadcasts setup :-)
[04:34] <lee_> hey all, i have just installed breezy and i have to killall esd to hear sound in games, even after following the howto on the forums - any idea whats up?
[04:34] <freemanen> I am trying to install ubuntu but I get a white screen after it has installed the package
[04:34] <freemanen> why?
[04:34] <bwlang> BooZee:sudo
[04:34] <bwlang> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[04:34] <TimM> I shoulda changed my apt/sources.list.  got in a rush and the defaults are slow.  whodathunk?
[04:34] <BooZee> and what to I do there?
[04:34] <ian> cjhcjhcjh How long have you been in Japan? I have the option to take a 6 month assignment in Tokyo starting in '06. Good life?
[04:35] <wouterd_> anyone had trouble with gnome keeps forgetting keyboard layout settings?
[04:35] <bwlang> BooZee: that command will ask you about your screen...
[04:35] <apokryphos> TimM: it's alright to stop the dist-upgrade as long as it hasn't started installing anything (and it's just downloading)
[04:35] <bretzel> Berk!! 21kb/s dnl rate --- Normal - Ubuntu is #1 in distrowatch!
[04:35] <apokryphos> it has been for aaages
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu Roxxors :P
[04:35] <cjhcjhcjh> ian get me on messenger please, chris_hopkin@hotmail.com - as we are off-topic
[04:35] <vengeful_> ubuntu is always number 1 on  distro watch
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> of course disrto watch just monitors the # of downloads I think
[04:35] <apokryphos> cjhcjhcjh: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[04:35] <bretzel> 18kb/s :-(
[04:35] <TimM> thankd apokryphos
[04:35] <TimM> or thanks :)
[04:35] <lee_> can anyone help me get rid of this killallesd problem?
[04:36] <cjhcjhcjh> apokryphos, tvm...ian, ...or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:36] <thoreauputic> !tell lee_ about dmix
[04:36] <MachineScrew> why is the GNOME desktop better it's an older version isn't it
[04:36] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: huh?
[04:36] <BooZee> bwlang: i don't know what X server driver I should choose..
[04:37] <bloodnik> thoreauputic, if I run pure-ftpd I can connect, but I want it to run as a service at startup
[04:37] <wouterd_> Help! Gnome keeps forgetting my keyboard layout settings!
[04:37] <thoreauputic> MachineScrew: Ubuntu breezy uses the very latest gnome....
[04:37] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: well I here that one is better than the other
[04:37] <bloodnik> thoreauputic, never mind
[04:37] <BooZee> my screen is Samsung 730B
[04:37] <bloodnik> it's put itself in init.d
[04:37] <MachineScrew> I wana know why
[04:37] <bloodnik> :)
[04:37] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: it does
[04:37] <lee_> thoreauputic, thanks ill give it a shot
[04:37] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: no desktop is objectively perfect. Different desktop serve different needs
[04:37] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: for the quintessential criticisms/objections, use Google
[04:38] <KArhuton> I have the original BitTorrent installed (the latest beta works in Ubuntu Hoary, out of the box) and want to upgrade to Breezy. ubuntu-desktop depends on the gnome-bt, but I don't want to install it. How do I install ubuntu-desktop and not the gnome-bt?
[04:38] <MachineScrew> ok so hmm I am an intermediate user
[04:38] <reagleBRKLN> I installed breezy  over my existing hedgehog root partition.  everything is fine except my sound does not work
[04:38] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: I used both
[04:38] <thoreauputic> MachineScrew: and to become totally confused visit http://xwinman.org ;P
[04:38] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: and which do you prefer?
[04:38] <reagleBRKLN> I checked alsamixer  and nothing is mutated
[04:38] <bloodnik> thoreauputic, sorry ... i do sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd restart and a) nothing happens and b) I still can't connect
[04:38] <reagleBRKLN> s/mutated/muted
[04:38] <KArhuton> Heh. Mutated :)
[04:39] <Enlite> I just installed courier on ubuntu, and it asked me if I want to create dirs for web-based administration. I selected yes.. but how do I access the web based admin?
[04:39] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: what is better for laptops then
[04:39] <BooZee> can somebody help me about configuring my LCD screen?
[04:39] <os2mac> here's the problem: when I suspend my laptop and bring it back up, the network configuration is set to eth0 (even though that was disabled when I suspended it) and the essid and key are dropped from the wlan0 configuation...
[04:39] <MachineScrew> BooZee: What is  the problem
[04:39] <os2mac> that is what I am trying to correct
[04:39] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: all I can suggest is that you read the man page - it worked out of the box here
[04:39] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: neither excels in the area specifically, I'd say. Personally I wouldn't use anything other than KDE on any system, really, though :)
[04:39] <reagleBRKLN> when I boot I note that says configuring "ALSA card 0"
[04:39] <os2mac> and for the record /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts did not correct the problem
[04:39] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: a summary of common points: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kde/about-kubuntu/C/
[04:40] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: just checking
[04:40] <BooZee> MachineScrew: well, the font's are a bit blurry..
[04:40] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: I assume you don't have some funky firewalling rules or similar?
[04:40] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ok it might be to low
[04:40] <bloodnik> nope, it's just another computer on the network.
[04:40] <bloodnik> Just installed Breezy as server.
[04:41] <MachineScrew> BooZee: what it the size of the monitor
[04:41] <bloodnik> So unless that setup installs weird firewalling, it's not that.
[04:41] <wouterd_> anyone knows anything about keyboard layouts?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: hmmm ....
[04:41] <BooZee> 17 inch, working at 1280*1024
[04:41] <BooZee> 60hz
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> gnome's font control-panel has a few settings to tweek the anti-aliasing of thefonts
[04:41] <occy> how can you get the old folder action back?
[04:41] <occy> heh
[04:41] <occy> in nautilus?
[04:41] <Trackilizer> My updating speed just droped from 26KB/s to 2KB/s, this is not normal, is it?
[04:41] <MachineScrew> BooZee: the hz don't matter with LCD
[04:42] <Earthen> how can i list what port my printer is connected too?
[04:42] <MachineScrew> BooZee: have you tried a higher resolution
[04:42] <BooZee> it is the highest..
[04:42] <BooZee> plus, I don't want a higher res
[04:42] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ok
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: have you heard of "slashdotting" ?
[04:43] <occy> I prefer the old drop down box at the bottom of the file folder
[04:43] <MachineScrew> BooZee: you in GNOME right
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> lcd's generally look best when ran at their native resolution i find.
[04:43] <BooZee> MachineScrew: yep
[04:44] <MachineScrew> go to system -->prefrences --> and click on fonts
[04:44] <bloodnik> thoreauputic, I've had to do "sudo pure-ftpd -B" to run it as a daemon.
[04:44] <bloodnik> Chances are I won't have to restart it too often so I'll just let it go.
[04:44] <ProN00b> ok, is there any way just backupping (cp) stuff without the dot in front of it ?
[04:44] <Earthen> I'm trying to get mtink to work for my Epson Printer, but i am unsure on what usb port to point it to can some one help with this
[04:44] <Trackilizer> No.
[04:44] <MachineScrew> BooZee: chose Subpixel smoothing
[04:44] <Blair> woohoo! got my ubuntu booted (finally) now i just need to install a network and a mouse...
[04:44] <thoreauputic> bloodnik: sounds like you woked itt out anyway - I don't recall having to do anything: the install script seems to have started it for me
[04:45] <BooZee> MachineScrew: hmm... can't tell if it's diffrent...
[04:45] <BooZee> may be a bit..
[04:45] <Blair> question:  anyone else notice that at about 70% of the way through the package installs, the entire process slows to a dead crawl?
[04:45] <BooZee> yes, I think it's better..
[04:45] <Jemt> Greetings. I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 and did a 'apt-get update'. Unfortunately the backports failed (error: 404 Not found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] ). Is the mirror down or have Ubuntu Corp. released a distribution with a broken link in sources.list ?
[04:45] <pinucset> one chose, im trying to change one nice but it says that i dont have permise
[04:45] <Blair> what's happening there? some sort of O(n^2) lookup in the package manifests?
[04:45] <MachineScrew> BooZee: try also incresing the color depth or decresing
[04:46] <Earthen> Jemt: as far as i know backport have been taken down
[04:46] <BooZee> where do I do it?
[04:46] <MachineScrew> BooZee: I can't remember witch is better
[04:46] <Jemt> Earthen: Why? Ubuntu is worthless without backports
[04:46] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: the ubuntu servers are under heavy load because of the breezy release
[04:46] <MachineScrew> BooZee: for that we have to edit a config file
[04:46] <Jemt> Do you know of any unofficial backports for Breezy ?
[04:46] <BooZee> hit me!
[04:47] <Earthen> Jemt: I don't know why! I think they were having some problems
[04:47] <MachineScrew> BooZee: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:47] <apokryphos> Jemt: it was released, er, yesterday
[04:47] <Jemt> Earthen: Ok. Do you know of any unofficial mirrors ?
[04:47] <Earthen> Jemt: I don't no, sorry
[04:47] <thoreauputic> people, how would there be backports when breezy is only a day old?
[04:47] <MachineScrew> scroll down to the bottom and you will see your monitor stuff and resolutions
[04:47] <Blair> backport, schmackport...i just want to know why my clean install of breezy badger took (literally) 12 hours
[04:48] <Earthen> Jemt: I'm pretty new to this my self so.
[04:48] <ProN00b> who needs backports anyway ?
[04:48] <apokryphos> Blair: /topic
[04:48] <MachineScrew> BooZee: what is the Default Depth
[04:48] <ProN00b> 12 hours ?!
[04:48] <Jemt> Anyone > Where can I find unofficial backports for Breezy ?
[04:48] <ProN00b> is that normal ?
[04:48] <whp_> BLAH BLAH
[04:48] <apokryphos> ProN00b: /topic
[04:48] <BooZee> 24. its called generic monitor. does that mean that ubuntu didn't recognized my monitor?
[04:48] <Blair> started around dinnertime...i ended up going to sleep about 80% of the way through the package installs
[04:48] <utnubu> Jemt: many backports in hoar are now officially supported
[04:49] <ProN00b> apokryphos ?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Jemt: for heaven's sake - have a *bit* of patience
[04:49] <funkyHat> how can i see what settings X is currently using?
[04:49] <Earthen> I need to get mtink to work so i don't have to reboot into windows every time one of my ink cartages runs out in order to find out what on i have ti change
[04:49] <Jemt> utnubu: Well, using Breezy
[04:49] <apokryphos> ProN00b: as in, check the channel topic
[04:49] <MachineScrew> funkyHat: edit the xorg.conf file
[04:49] <Trinitrogen> quick question, I want to make Ubuntu the default OS booted by Grub. I know I need to edit menu.conf but Im not sure where its at
[04:49] <Blair> now...some of this will be hardware...i mean...P2-MMX 200 processor and maybe a 16X cd-rom...but still...it bogged down HARD around the p's in the package list
[04:49] <funkyHat> MachineScrew, there is no xorg.conf file
[04:49] <BooZee> MachineScrew: so I should change it to 32 ?
[04:49] <Jemt> thespiritoftal: Not very easy as I in the middle of setting up several servers. So I actually need access to backports today
[04:50] <ProN00b> well, he said installing, apokryphos, and afaik installing doesn't necessarily use the net...
[04:50] <funkyHat> MachineScrew, i need to know what X is currently using so i can make one ;)
[04:50] <MachineScrew> BooZee: 24 and 32 are the same
[04:50] <Blair> breezy's backports make interesting dinner conversation
[04:50] <apokryphos> funkyHat: you wouldn't be able to restart x without one
[04:50] <Blair> frrrp
[04:50] <Trackilizer> WOW!! I'm up to 14KB/s
[04:50] <MachineScrew> funkyHat: oh
[04:50] <funkyHat> apokryphos, well there isn't one :P
[04:50] <apokryphos> ProN00b: sure it does
[04:50] <utnubu> Jemt: you kann use the hoary extras for w32codecs and so on or try to use "easy ubuntu"
[04:50] <Blair> awright...i'
[04:50] <Jemt> Well, if hoary backports work, I'll just switch back to that distro :)
[04:50] <Jemt> No problem
[04:50] <TimM> Blair, how much memory?
[04:50] <Blair> m going to go work out
[04:50] <Blair> 64MB
[04:50] <apokryphos> funkyHat: why did you delete it?
[04:50] <ProN00b> woofoo, a cd install uses the net ?!
[04:50] <MachineScrew> BooZee: if it is't a problem then leave it
[04:50] <Blair> should be enough for package loads
[04:51] <apokryphos> utnubu: no; it's not in hoary-extras anymore. Hasn't been for some time now.
[04:51] <Blair> it bogged down all the packages, even fiddly little things
[04:51] <BooZee> MachineScrew: what do you mean?
[04:51] <funkyHat> apokryphos, didn't, none was created (gentoo *runs away before he is shot*)
[04:51] <bretzel> Trackilizer:  :-) I am @ 27kb/s ( massive updates + load of pkg to install ) -- I think I will be done tomorrow /...
[04:51] <Jemt> Will backports for hoary work ?
[04:51] <utnubu> Jemt: Breezy works just fine with the hoary extras :)
[04:51] <MachineScrew> BooZee: if you plan on running games change it to 16
[04:51] <ProN00b> Trinitrogen, locate menu.lst is your friend
[04:51] <Jemt> On hoary that is
[04:51] <Blair> so i'm thinking the fact that there were a lot of packages caused it to get progressively slower
[04:51] <apokryphos> funkyHat: you're on gentoo?
[04:51] <Earthen> Jemt: I'm using Horay I don't think there working for it eather
[04:51] <utnubu> apokryphos, oh, good to know :)
[04:51] <apokryphos> utnubu: no... it doesn't.
[04:51] <BooZee> MachineScrew: are you sure I shouldn't change it to 32 ?
[04:51] <Jemt> utnubu: Where can I find the extras ?
[04:51] <funkyHat> apokryphos, not here, the other machine sitting next to me. breezy here
[04:51] <Blair> as if it was doing a simple search of large portions of the disk for each package
[04:51] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ya I am shure
[04:51] <bretzel> IS there driver of ATI tv wonder pro ??
[04:51] <Jemt> Earthen: Ok, thanks
[04:52] <BooZee> o.k. well how can I reload X ?
[04:52] <apokryphos> funkyHat: and you're telling me there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:52] <Blair> anyhow...i'm outty
[04:52] <MachineScrew> BooZee: that is the max for X
[04:52] <thirso> can anyone help me with this error that i get trying to compile my ethernet card's driver? http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6922/screenshoterro25sx.jpg
[04:52] <thoreauputic> Jemt: instead of bellyaching, why don't you say what you need specifically?
[04:52] <apokryphos> funkyHat: whatever.. regenerate a new one with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:52] <bretzel> nevermind -- google is my friend
[04:52] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ctrl + alt + backspace
[04:52] <utnubu> Jemt, search in ubuntuforums.org for "easy ubuntu"
[04:52] <BooZee> o.k.
[04:52] <BooZee> thank you.
[04:52] <BooZee> one more question:
[04:52] <Jemt> utnubu: What is Easy Ubuntu ?
[04:52] <Earthen> some one help with Epson Printer Please!
[04:52] <Trinitrogen> locate menu.1st doesn't do anything, is there an argument I need for it to show the results?
[04:52] <MachineScrew> BooZee: no prob and shoot
[04:52] <Jemt> utnubu: Well, checking the site :)
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Trinitrogen: L "l" not 1
[04:53] <BooZee> I tried updating the system (just installed it.. :-) and a lot of the sources were ignored or errored..
[04:53] <BooZee> i think some were called back ports..
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Trinitrogen: and it's in /boot/grub/
[04:53] <MachineScrew> BooZee: did you catch the errors
[04:53] <Trinitrogen> thoreauputic: haha, sorry dumb mistake
[04:53] <apokryphos> easy ubuntu sounds like a simpleKDE-effort-type-thing. Ouch.
[04:53] <utnubu> Jemt, yep, is an install script which installs aditional often used programs
[04:53] <ProN00b> thirso, did you get the build essentials as well as the gcc package ?
[04:54] <BooZee> MachineScrew: well I can do it again, and tell you
[04:54] <BooZee> just a sec
[04:54] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ok
[04:54] <funkyHat> apokryphos, it's not the ubuntu machine that has no config, i shouldn't have asked in here, i just thought it was a general question so would be OK
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Trinitrogen: easy to make though :)
[04:54] <Jemt> utnubu: I prefer customizing my distro myself. I have used Linux for several years.
[04:54] <apokryphos> funkyHat: you're asking for the gentoo machine? Ahem... :)
[04:54] <MachineScrew> BooZee: just past in the site and the main universe thingys
[04:54] <Hoxzer> can I have some help with the mythtv
[04:54] <MachineScrew> BooZee: one at a time
[04:54] <utnubu> apokryphos, huh, do not know the simpleKDE effort thing
[04:54] <Trinitrogen> thoreaputic: okay know how can I set Ubuntu to be the default?
[04:54] <funkyHat> apokryphos, yes, still though... general X question :P
[04:55] <BooZee> what?
[04:55] <Hoxzer> I like to remove old configures so I could set this up from the begingin
[04:55] <apokryphos> funkyHat: nope; X is not the same on all distros, of course.
[04:55] <utnubu> Jemt, it has checkboxes to choose what to change
[04:55] <MachineScrew> BooZee: you using synaptic or apt-get
[04:55] <BooZee> apt-get
[04:55] <coldpack> #ubuntu-zh on irc.freenode.net
[04:55] <BooZee> where can I paste all the errors?
[04:55] <thirso> can anyone help me with this 'make all' error ? http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6922/screenshoterro25sx.jpg
[04:55] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[04:55] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:56] <HCl> geeze
[04:56] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ok it will check all the sites where it get the package info when you do apt-get update
[04:56] <Trinitrogen> thoreauputic: Is it the "makeactive" ?
[04:56] <HCl> the ubuntu installer could do with a more userfriendly "install from network" option..
[04:56] <apokryphos> thirso: install gcc-3.4
[04:56] <ek0> i\m having problems with apt-get and dpkg.
[04:56] <ek0> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[04:56] <ek0> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[04:57] <MachineScrew> BooZee: that command refreshes the package listing and other changes to the repo
[04:57] <MachineScrew> BooZee: that has to be done first before any updates
[04:57] <ek0> when i dpkg --configure -a i get  "read-only file system)
[04:57] <BooZee> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3084
[04:58] <BooZee> i did sudo apt-get update
[04:58] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ok
[04:58] <MachineScrew> BooZee: one sec
[04:58] <BooZee> k
[04:58] <wouterd_> ek0: try sudo
[04:58] <ek0> done it with sudo, got those results
[04:58] <MachineScrew> BooZee: get your sources.list open
[04:58] <apokryphos> BooZee: I'm sure you can guess the problem
[04:59] <HCl> can someone explain the difference in kernels (that i can select..) i got linux-386, linux-386-image, and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386...
[04:59] <MachineScrew> BooZee: its the back ports
[04:59] <JDigital> How much free disk space should I have to update Hoary to Breezy?
[04:59] <MachineScrew> BooZee: remove them
[04:59] <BooZee> why?"
[04:59] <BooZee> what is a backport?
[04:59] <apokryphos> BooZee: er, because they don't exist yet.
[04:59] <HCl> anyone...?
[04:59] <MachineScrew> BooZee: well they are not ready
[05:00] <nicholas_paul> hallo everybody!
[05:00] <HCl> whats the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386"
[05:00] <HCl> ?
[05:00] <Jemt> Thanks for all your help
[05:00] <MachineScrew> BooZee: if you need thing that would be in there use horay-staging-backports instead of breezy-backports
[05:01] <sproingie> HCI: i suspect the former is a meta-package that includes the latter
[05:01] <BooZee> what is backports?
[05:01] <HCl> eh..
[05:01] <HCl> hm..
[05:01] <nicholas_paul> i'm having trouble using ssh. according to Synaptic, its installed , but i can't log in to my other machines.
[05:01] <HCl> ah well
[05:01] <bigfoot1> anybody here use opera in breezy?
[05:01] <MachineScrew> BooZee: if you don't know you don't need it
[05:01] <bigfoot1> If you are a Breezy Operabrowser user, please say my name
[05:01] <MachineScrew> lol
[05:01] <JDigital> bigfoot1
[05:01] <sally_> nicholas_paul, what message do you get
[05:01] <nicholas_paul> my name
[05:01] <sproingie> BooZee: backports are apps packaged for ubuntu after release time.  not as well tested
[05:02] <bigfoot1> nicholas_paul, so you use opera.
[05:02] <nicholas_paul> none sally. it just hangs
[05:02] <bigfoot1> nicholas_paul, smart alec
[05:02] <JDigital> I haven't upgraded to Breezy yet, though..
[05:02] <sproingie> my name
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Iused opera under breezy - i had to donload their Staticially compiled version I belive
[05:02] <BooZee> oh... o.k.
[05:02] <nicholas_paul> no bigfoot1, sorry. i was just being an ass!! hehhe!!!
[05:02] <BooZee> so for now i'll just comment them
[05:02] <bigfoot1> sproingie, are you a breezy opera user?
[05:02] <sproingie> i downloaded the .deb, works great for me
[05:02] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ya
[05:02] <JDigital> How much free disk space should I have to update Hoary to Breezy?
[05:02] <BooZee> when should I uncomment them?
[05:02] <bigfoot1> nicholas_paul, no harm done, pal.
[05:02] <nicholas_paul> id like to tho, bigfoot1
[05:02] <nicholas_paul> bigfoot1 :D
[05:02] <bigfoot1> nicholas_paul, you'd like to what?
[05:02] <bretzel> Whay does xcompmgr locks gnome when leaving ...gnome ??
[05:03] <nicholas_paul> bigfoot1: use opera. i like it in osx
[05:03] <MachineScrew> check the ubuntu backports web page every so offten
[05:03] <sproingie> JDigital: depends on what packages you have.  couple hundred megs is probably good
[05:03] <JDigital> Is 491 enough?
[05:03] <bigfoot1> sproingie, i have plugin problems after i reinstalled opera (i got it from opera.com). Please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3076
[05:03] <sproingie> JDigital: megs?  definitely
[05:03] <BooZee> o.k.
[05:03] <BooZee> thank you!
[05:03] <bigfoot1> sproingie, can you help me ?
[05:03] <MachineScrew> no prob
[05:03] <BooZee> I know I said one more question, but now I have another one ..:-)
[05:04] <JDigital> 532MB free now
[05:04] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ya shoot
[05:04] <JDigital> ok
[05:04] <chmuri> hi
[05:04] <sproingie> bigfoot1: i never tried getting plugins to work
[05:04] <bigfoot1> sproingie, i see.
[05:04] <MachineScrew> BooZee: I am board you are keeping me entertained
[05:04] <MachineScrew> BooZee: lol
[05:04] <otep> hello everyone, has anyone encountered this before: "cdrom: failed setting lba address space"?
[05:05] <bigfoot1> anybody else in this chatroom use Breezy AND opera browser? If so, say "Bigfoot1, I do"
[05:05] <BooZee> I installed fresh 5.10 an hour ago or so. what useful things should I install ? like codecs and stuffs... (As you can see, I'm new in linux..)
[05:05] <MachineScrew> BooZee: my self I install bunch of stuff
[05:06] <bretzel> BooZee: enable unverse and multiverse repositories in synaptic and have fun !
[05:06] <ProN00b> opera sucks, bigfoot1...
[05:06] <MachineScrew> BooZee: gstreamer-plugins gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[05:06] <bigfoot1> ProN00b, amuse me and say why you think so.
[05:06] <bretzel> BooZee:read universe not unverse
[05:06] <elvirolo> hi all
[05:06] <Knorrie_> bigfoot1: opera rulezzzz
[05:06] <MachineScrew> BooZee: that is for most codec
[05:06] <ProN00b> its just another greedy company
[05:07] <elvirolo> my hp deskjet 710C doesn't work under breezy ...
[05:07] <ProN00b> and they don't even invented the "hey, lets sell a browser" idea
[05:07] <ProN00b> *didn't
[05:07] <elvirolo> it is detected but it doesn't print jobs
[05:07] <MachineScrew> BooZee: next i would get libdvdcss2 and w32codecs
[05:07] <nicholas_paul> In 5.10, is nautilus broken?
[05:08] <chmuri> where in ubuntu is root terminal?? sudo sudo sudo its geeting on my nerws..:)??
[05:08] <thoreauputic> chmuri: to get a root shell type sudo -i
[05:08] <Xenguy> chmuri: sudo -s
[05:08] <thoreauputic> sudo -i is better :0
[05:08] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: why?
[05:08] <ProN00b> su root > you
[05:08] <nicholas_paul> :O
[05:08] <thoreauputic> according to the maestro Seveas anyway :)
[05:09] <Ng> -i is a login shell
[05:09] <TimM> chmuri, applications|system|root terminal
[05:09] <BooZee> i try to do "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" but I get an err
[05:09] <Ng> means you get a clean environment
[05:09] <otep> exit
[05:09] <redlounge> hi. i have installed the newest jre 1.5.0_05 manually to /usr/java. 'java -version' gives me 1.4.2, how can i tell ubuntu about the new version?
[05:09] <MachineScrew> BooZee: the are not there
[05:09] <reagleBRKLN> don't have sound with breezy, but if i rmmod snd-intel8x0, and then modprobe it, i do here a click
[05:09] <reagleBRKLN> syslog says ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[05:09] <MachineScrew> BooZee: go to this site
[05:09] <sally_> redlounge, update-alternatives
[05:09] <TimM> But I like everyone elses answer better.
[05:09] <MachineScrew> BooZee: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[05:09] <[TvM] > its possible to instal flux in kubuntu?
[05:09] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: it would be interesting to understand the difference between the two
[05:09] <sally_> redlounge, oh wait, if you installed it manually update-alternatives won't work
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: Ng just explained it above :)
[05:10] <reagleBRKLN> still no sound though
[05:10] <BooZee> but in hoary it was there...
[05:10] <MachineScrew> BooZee: get libdvdcss
[05:10] <BooZee> I installed it like that...
[05:10] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: never mind
[05:10] <redlounge> sally_: ok... where does ubuntu saves its jre?
[05:10] <MachineScrew> BooZee: and the w32codecs
[05:10] <chmuri> ok THX but how to login as root to snome??
[05:10] <Enlite> how do i search for a package in apt-get/
[05:10] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: -i sets the appropriate variables and other such things
[05:10] <chmuri> gnome
[05:10] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ya they had to take them out
[05:10] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: yes, I know :)
[05:10] <BooZee> why?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: Ng also explained it a minute ago
[05:11] <MachineScrew> BooZee: "Not Open Source"
[05:11] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: my daydreams are becoming more exciting than my dreams at night 8)
[05:11] <MachineScrew> BooZee: "licensing and legalities"
[05:11] <apokryphos> that's what lack of sleep does to a [in] sane man ;-)
[05:11] <MachineScrew> BooZee: lawer crap
[05:11] <sally_> redlounge, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:12] <nicholas_paul> So does anyone know what happened to nautilus?
[05:12] <MachineScrew> BooZee: the packages you are getting are for RPM based distros
[05:12] <JDigital> When I change my repositories to look for breezy, I have like ten things
[05:12] <sally_> redlounge, look at the java section, I did it 10 minutes ago and it worked great, and then after you install it do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:12] <JDigital> I guess I change them all, right?
[05:12] <apokryphos> JDigital: /topic
[05:12] <MachineScrew> BooZee: we will use the alien program to convert them
[05:12] <Xenguy> I created a ~/.Xmodmap file last night; Ubuntu seemed to detect the file, but the new mappings still don't work unless I manually run 'xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap'.  Is there a simple way to 'load' xmodmap when starting X ?
[05:13] <JDigital> The link in the topic only says to change one tho
[05:13] <JDigital> but I figure I have to change multiverse too
[05:13] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: in case you don't know, /msg ubotu w32codecs
[05:13] <redlounge> sally_: ok, thx. i will have a look...
[05:13] <apokryphos> JDigital: no, it doesn't
[05:13] <BooZee> just a sec...
[05:13] <JDigital> multiverse and whatever stay hoary?
[05:13] <apokryphos> JDigital: check the wiki entry; there's more things to do, too.
[05:13] <reiki> JDigital: I changed them all and my upgrade went just fine
[05:13] <sproingie> Xenguy: put the xmodmap command in your ~/.xinitrc file
[05:13] <sally_> is anyone else having a problem with gpg signatures and breezy-updates: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid
[05:13] <bigfoot1> i'm in asia, how do i know which is the fast mirror for repositories for me?
[05:13] <dooglus> chmuri: to set it up to let you run GNOME as root, run this:    sudo sed -i s/AllowRoot=false/AllowRoot=true/ /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[05:14] <dooglus> chmuri: but it's a really bad idea
[05:14] <beerockxs> I just updated to breezy, and now nautilus no longer has an adress bar where i can enter a folder directly. How do I get that feature back?
[05:14] <chmuri> who swhy??? dooglus??
[05:14] <Xenguy> sproingie: is that compatible with gdm and gnome-session stuff?
[05:14] <apokryphos> JDigital: ack, the synaptic guide does indeed say that, my bad. Change all occurences to breezy, yes. Make sure backports isn't enabled though; they don't exist yet.
[05:14] <nicholas_paul> me too beerocksxs
[05:14] <axlpxl> whats the name of the gsteramer-package that enables mp3-support?
[05:14] <thoreauputic> ubotu is thinking...
[05:14] <MachineScrew> BooZee: better yet go here
[05:14] <ubotu> thoreauputic: No idea
[05:14] <Enlite> are thre backports for breezy yet?
[05:14] <dooglus> chmuri: what?  you asked "chmuri> ok THX but how to login as root to snome??" - I answered
[05:14] <thoreauputic> ubotu: bah
[05:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, thoreauputic
[05:14] <reiki> Enlite: no
[05:14] <MachineScrew> BooZee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:14] <sproingie> Xenguy: hm... good point, xinitrc might totally override the system-supplied one.  if that's the case you'll have to copy it
[05:15] <TimM> beerockxs, do you have a view menu?
[05:15] <chmuri> why its baad idea??
[05:15] <Xenguy> sproingie: any idea what the relvant file(s) might be, to configure?
[05:15] <variant> launchpad.net looks interesting
[05:15] <nicholas_paul> Timm i have the same prob. No view menu. Nautilus doesnt open.
[05:15] <beerockxs> TimM, yes, it also has an adress bar entry. But that's not an actual adress bar where I can type in
[05:15] <Xenguy> sproingie: I think I'll try your suggestion anyway, so thanks for that
[05:16] <dooglus> chmuri: say reason it's a bad idea to run windows as 'administrator'.  if your windows session gets taken over, they've got root straight away.  and if you type something stupid by mistake your whole system's dead instead of just your user account
[05:16] <sproingie> Xenguy: looks like xinitrc is never used these days, so just try it, and if gnome session breaks, get rid of it
[05:16] <TimM> beerockxs, is it checked?
[05:16] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: didn't know that page was updated thanks
[05:16] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[05:16] <sproingie> another reason it's bad to run windows as admin is that it's actually slower
[05:16] <chmuri> yest u are right
[05:16] <BooZee> wow, lot's of info... it's taking me a while..
[05:16] <sproingie> admin has to go through more audit checks
[05:16] <chmuri> :)
[05:16] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: i was doing it the hard way lol
[05:16] <Chousuke> Hope my family likes their new breezy :D
[05:16] <dooglus> slower?  why?
[05:16] <beerockxs> TimM, yes. It does enable a bar, but that's basically a list of buttons, like if the current directory is my home directory, it has a button for /, one for /home, and one for /home/beerockxs
[05:17] <sproingie> dooglus: if audit logging is on, admin usually has more checks turned on
[05:17] <Chousuke> sproingie: Slower and insecure, but at least usable ;>
[05:17] <sproingie> dooglus: for a home PC that doesn't apply
[05:17] <TimM> beerockxs, I have mine set to open in a browser.  Is yours set that way?
[05:17] <nicholas_paul> sally - to answer your question, ssh just gives me time outs, no matter what IP i use (except for this machine's ip)
[05:18] <otep> has anyone encountered this before: "cdrom: failed setting lba address space"?
[05:18] <sproingie> Chousuke: yep.  i know all the lectures about not running as admin, but i got tired of invoking runas.  i secure the machine now, not the local access
[05:18] <beerockxs> TimM, you mean in the preferences? Yes
[05:18] <Trackilizer> I have a problem, even after installing the win32 codecs, all i can hear is the audio but i can't see the picture in .WMV files.
[05:18] <MachineScrew> BooZee: go to this site to test your flash once you get it
[05:18] <MachineScrew> BooZee: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/
[05:18] <sproingie> Chousuke: there's so many local privelege escalation exploits on both windows and linux that it's almost pointless to keep local security
[05:19] <Toba> o_0
[05:19] <ProN00b> sproingie, tell a shell provider
[05:19] <Toba> o rly?
[05:19] <wdh_> hi ppls.. i have a problem after upgrading to breezy. When logging in to ubuntu i get the errormessage shown in this pastebin. Does anyone know a solution for this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i3085
[05:19] <MachineScrew> breezy badger people the theme song http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/
[05:19] <Dekkard> anyone having a problem with fastjar?
[05:19] <TimM> beerockxs, I guess I can't help.  Yet at least.  I'm not upgraded to breezy.
[05:19] <Chousuke> sproingie: On a well-maintained Linux box that isn't true.
[05:19] <dooglus> MachineScrew: easier to remember is badgerbadgerbadger.com
[05:20] <Toba> sproingie: that's pretty much why I don't give anyone else an account on my linux machine
[05:20] <sproingie> ProN00b: obviously an actual multi-user system is an exception
[05:20] <TimM> beerockxs, but working on it
[05:20] <MachineScrew> dooglus: ya
[05:20] <beerockxs> TimM, ah. It worked fine as long as I was on Hoary.
[05:20] <Chousuke> on a desktop machine it doesn't even matter :/
[05:20] <Dekkard> or prollems with j2sdk?
[05:20] <Toba> I do however give accounts to friends on my bsd machine, because I think they take security very seriously
[05:20] <dooglus> so I just wrote an iso to cd, and it seemed to work.
[05:20] <Paradoxx> hmm, i wanna set up a partition i can write to from windows and from linux? will fat32 b aight?
[05:20] <ProN00b> Toba, gimme s shell ^^
[05:20] <sproingie> Chousuke: well-maintained does not mean "patched to paper over exploit of the week", it means a very tough policy mechanism like selinux or grsec
[05:20] <Toba> ProN00b: notice how I said friends
[05:20] <dooglus> I tried reading it back to check it was ok and got a different md5su,
[05:20] <Paradoxx> i'm current ly useing hoary
[05:20] <Chousuke> sproingie: I know.
[05:20] <Toba> I have no clue who you even are :P
[05:20] <Chousuke> sproingie: :)
[05:20] <dooglus> md5sum
[05:20] <ProN00b> yes, Paradoxx
[05:21] <nicholas_paul> sally. did you get my last q?
[05:21] <brosioz> anyone have k3b and dvd pioneer 110D i can burn only 2x with support 8x dvd-r anyone could help ?
[05:21] <dooglus> what did I do wrong:  dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
[05:21] <Toba> SD:
[05:21] <Toba> bad idea!
[05:21] <Paradoxx> ProN00b: kk ty
[05:21] <Toba> dooglus: that's a shitload of stuff to hash
[05:21] <dooglus> Toba: right.  but md5sum doesn't tire easily. ;)
[05:21] <Chousuke> dooglus: md5sum /dev/cdrom ? :P
[05:21] <Toba> dooglus: what'd it say?
[05:21] <Toba> Chousuke: that might work too
[05:22] <chmuri> who have server on ubuntu??
[05:22] <Toba> insane people, chmuri
[05:22] <dooglus> it said 1263932+0 records in
[05:22] <chmuri> why insane??:)
[05:22] <Toba> I don't think ubuntu is a good choice for a server
[05:22] <Knorrie_> chmuri: use Debian Sarge
[05:22] <sproingie> Chousuke: even a lot of linux vendors still push regular updates as sufficient security.  all it means is that they can rack up even more exploit numbers than MS due to all the extra software they take responsibility for
[05:22] <dooglus> then 698835f9ddc8818e9ce3ee0dfb49388e
[05:22] <chmuri> yes i know but im qiute interesting who deare..;)
[05:22] <Paradoxx> when i am in fdisk, how do i breate a fat32 partition?
[05:23] <bloodnik> What pass should /home be mounted on in fstab?
[05:23] <Paradoxx> create*
[05:23] <Ng> bloodnik: 2
[05:23] <bloodnik> thanks. Nearly got that wrong O_o
[05:23] <Ng> bloodnik: / should be 1, anything else 2. generally.
[05:23] <dooglus> sproingie: you seem to be the voice of reason.  I was called a 'troll' earlier for correcting people who claimed that linux was bulletproof
[05:23] <Chousuke> sproingie: on a Desktop machine regular updates and user awareness is all you need. :)
[05:23] <chmuri> who have shell acount??
[05:24] <Chousuke> well, most of the time.
[05:24] <sproingie> MS does a heroic job of course keeping neck and neck with number of reported exploits despite shipping with about 1/10 as much software
[05:24] <Ng> bloodnik: (except things that should be skipped of course :)
[05:24] <bloodnik> Ng, should I also give it errors=remount-ro like /?
[05:24] <ProN00b> off off and away to ubuntu breezy
[05:24] <MachineScrew> Paradoxx: you would hit 't' and then select the partition you whant to change the type of and hit 'l' to see the codes
[05:24] <Chousuke> sproingie: heheh :P
[05:24] <Paradoxx> how do i create a fat3 partition in linux?
[05:24] <Denski> Paradoxx, delete all non dos partition and logical partitions then create a new dos partition, set it active and format it...
[05:24] <ProN00b> cyaz you all, if i don't come back, blame the ubuntu makers ^^
[05:24] <Toba> Denski: afaik mkfs doesn't do fat
[05:25] <Ng> bloodnik: you don't have to, but it won't really hurt - if you're getting to the point of fs errors things are all pretty bad ;)
[05:25] <sproingie> dooglus: my response to any claims of bulletproof is "dodge this".  well, should be, but then people will think i'm going to H4XX0R their box
[05:25] <Chousuke> sproingie: that'd mean MS ships with, um, 1000 pieces of software?
[05:25] <Denski> oh ok...
[05:25] <Denski> my fault
[05:25] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: yeb and vista has more
[05:25] <bloodnik> Ng: well it's more of a just-in-case than anything
[05:25] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: like SuSE 5 CDs
[05:25] <Ng> bloodnik: yeah, if things have gotten that bad you might as well stop them getting any worse ;)
[05:25] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: really, 1000 apps?
[05:26] <Paradoxx> Denski: how do i do that?
[05:26] <dooglus> sproingie: for linux to be secure, every exploit discovered by the 'bad guys' must also be known and patched by the 'good guys'.  that doesn't sound too likely to me, given the amount of code there is and the rate at which exploits are discovered.
[05:26] <bloodnik> OK, time to remotely reboot
[05:26] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: or dvd vista is supposed to be on dvd
[05:26] <Paradoxx> Denski: you mean the "Create a new empty DOS partition table"
[05:26] <otroean> Hi. Have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 but didn't get any question about root password. What it it then?
[05:26] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: will it still have a thousand apps?
[05:26] <Chousuke> :P
[05:26] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: ya really you may not see every one of them but they are there
[05:26] <dooglus> !tell otroean about root
[05:26] <Toba> dooglus: that's why the key to security is turning off services you don't use and putting as many restrictions up as possible.
[05:26] <sproingie> dooglus: even if you're up to date, it's a situation that decays over time.  better to be secure by default.  'course i don't take that advice on my home box, but i don't delude myself into thinking it's all that secure
[05:26] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: probly more
[05:26] <Toba> otroean: the same one as yours
[05:27] <Paradoxx> Denski: ??
[05:27] <Toba> or empty
[05:27] <Chousuke> sproingie: :)
[05:27] <Toba> the way it's set up is very odd
[05:27] <Chousuke> I feel quite secure with my powerbook and OS X
[05:27] <Toba> see, root does not actually exist in ubuntu
[05:27] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: and all of them worthless
[05:27] <wezzer> how to get ati radeon 9800 to work in ubuntu?
[05:27] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: The defrag is a joke wordpad and notepad are the same
[05:27] <wezzer> I mean the 3D rendering part
[05:27] <sproingie> !tell wezzer about BinaryDriverHowto
[05:27] <dooglus> Toba: root exists.  it's password doesn't, that's all.
[05:28] <Toba> o_0.
[05:28] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: so ya bloat
[05:28] <Ng> -' ;)
[05:28] <Chousuke> since I don't have to care about worms exploiting every hole :P
[05:28] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: heh :P
[05:28] <Toba> and you can't actually log in as it either
[05:28] <bpf> anyone in here using vmware with breezy?
[05:28] <Toba> you have to su
[05:28] <Paradoxx> how do i create a fat32 partition in ubuntu?
[05:28] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: Though linux is not imune to bloat eather
[05:28] <Toba> Paradoxx: google seems to be the best bet now
[05:28] <Toba> nobody knew
[05:28] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: yeah.
[05:28] <bpf> i'm trying to install and it says my current gcc is 4.0.2 but my kernel was built with gcc 3.4.5
[05:28] <Toba> I tried to do it on a thumbdrive the other day
[05:28] <yonil> how can i play a VCD ?
[05:28] <Toba> but I couldn't
[05:28] <miksu> hi people. anyone managed to compile adom-sage under ubuntu?
[05:28] <sproingie> MachineScrew: uh, if you think wordpad and notepad are the same, you havent used windows in a while.  unless you mean philosophically (notepad's a thin wrapper around the text edit control, wordpad around the richtext control)
[05:29] <Chousuke> miksu: hmm, iirc you need an older GCC
[05:29] <Toba> yeah, wordpad nad notepad are very different.
[05:29] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: Fedora Debian SuSE and Mandriva
[05:29] <wezzer> sproingie: thanks! :)
[05:29] <Ng> bpf: if it wants to compile you a kernel module you will need to install gcc 3.4.5
[05:29] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: bloat
[05:29] <sproingie> mmkay, on that note, gotta get goin
[05:29] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: Debian is hardly bloat per default
[05:29] <MachineScrew> sproingie: ya
[05:29] <miksu> chousuke just install with synaptic and make?
[05:29] <bigfoot1> anybody here downloaded opera for their breezy? I'm looking for the static version, because the etch version that I have is giving me problems
[05:29] <Chousuke> miksu: something like that.
[05:29] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: no but I meen come on 2 DVDs ?
[05:29] <bpf> Ng, will that downgrade my current gcc or just install alongside?
[05:29] <Ng> bpf: it will install alongside
[05:29] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: You don't need all that.
[05:29] <miksu> chousuke any idea of the version?
[05:29] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: Ubuntu is much better
[05:30] <dooglus> I just read the .iso off the cd onto hard disk - it's 4096 bytes bigger than it was when I wrote it...
[05:30] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: and no-one forces you o even download all that
[05:30] <Colloid> i'm having alot of trouble with gPHPEdit on ubuntu 5.10, it's all fucked p
[05:30] <Colloid> up
[05:30] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: If i am a new linux user I don't know that
[05:30] <Colloid> the display is alll fucke dup
[05:30] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: Ubuntu also offers that 2 dvds of software :)
[05:30] <Chousuke> But per default you only get a fraction of it.
[05:30] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: not on ship it :)
[05:30] <Colloid> someone download gPHPEdit - and tell me if it's buggy for them
[05:30] <Chousuke> yeah.
[05:30] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: was just there today
[05:30] <Chousuke> MachineScrew: The point is, Debian packages craploads of software.
[05:31] <bpf> ng thanks, i'll give that a shot
[05:31] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: ya
[05:31] <Chousuke> but the base install is like 100-200MB
[05:31] <Chousuke> and then you build the rest of the system yourself, using that packaged software.
[05:32] <MachineScrew> Chousuke: i like the fact that if i want a small system i can just type server and I get the ubuntu base system
[05:32] <Chousuke> Yeah
[05:32] <MachineScrew> for me that was the best way to install E17
[05:32] <Chousuke> That's entirely possible because apt rocks :P
[05:32] <MachineScrew> man that was beautiful
[05:32] <dooglus> "sudo -s" will leave you with your environment variables.  "sudo -i" will remove your environment and give you root's.  it depends what you want.
[05:32] <nicholas_paul> ok and why does xchat keep signing me out?!!!
[05:32] <MachineScrew> bugy but very pretty
[05:33] <nicholas_paul> and nautilus is still broken. is it not? anyone?
[05:33] <jrattner1> how do you add new repositories to breezy
[05:33] <otroean> I want to change my resolutin. But can't find more than 640x480 i screen resolution settings...
[05:33] <apokryphos> !tell otroean about resolution
[05:34] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: have you been here a wile or are you an OP
[05:34] <dooglus> Ng: is there any way to find out which version of gcc was used to build the currently running kernel?  and do you have to build modules with the same version?
[05:34] <MachineScrew> you seem to know all the neat things
[05:35] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: /msg ubotu list  ...you can browse the factoids :)
[05:35] <jrattner1> how do you add new repositories to breezy?
[05:35] <Ng> dooglus: cat /proc/version
[05:35] <Ng> dooglus: and yes, modules should be built with the same version
[05:35] <Ng> -should+must :)
[05:35] <dooglus> Ng: I tried building a module recently and got nowhere.
[05:35] <apokryphos> jrattner1: /msg ubotu repositories
[05:36] <jrattner1>  /msg ubotu repositories
[05:36] <_jason> !tell jrattner1 about repos
[05:36] <Ng> dooglus: that might have been why. It's kinda unfortunate I spose, but they change the internals of gcc quite a lot, especially from 3.x to 4.x, so there's no way it can do it and be sure things will work
[05:37] <dooglus> Ng: I was using probably the breezy rc kernel, and gcc-3.4
[05:37] <dooglus> that's close, right?
[05:37] <grogoreo> before doing a dist-upgrade would it be best to delete all my current packages? I've just been reading all of the problems people have been having.
[05:37] <MachineScrew> cool
[05:37] <Ng> dooglus: yeah, I would have thought that would work
[05:37] <miksu> chousuke found a patch for the compiling process in adom news , but it says first one solution then something like 'and using namespace standard' a little bit confused, what should i do?
[05:38] <jrattner1> what is the breezy universe
[05:38] <bpf> Ng, i installed gcc-3.4, but that is only 3.4.4 and vmware wants 3.4.5. it's also still finding the 4.* version. do I need to put a symlink somewhere?
[05:38] <dooglus> I can't remember the exact error I got - but something about version mismatch I think
[05:38] <jrattner1> got it
[05:38] <MachineScrew> bpf: look at the breezy how to for it
[05:39] <kaschei> I'm trying to make xorg work after a hoary->breezy upgrade, how do I set up virtual terminals without starting X?
[05:39] <dooglus> cmp ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso /dev/cdrom seems like a good way to verify a burn is good.
[05:39] <MachineScrew> bpf: you need a patch
[05:39] <bpf> MachineScrew, thx I'll go look for it
[05:39] <Chousuke> miksu: hm.
[05:39] <Chousuke> dunno.
[05:39] <MachineScrew> bpf: i got it one sec
[05:40] <brosioz> how could i enable dma on my dvd recorder /dev/hda ?
[05:40] <MachineScrew> bpf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[05:40] <dooglus> MachineScrew: are you saying that the kernel was built with a version of gcc which isn't available in a binary package?  that's messed up, man!
[05:40] <bpf> MachineScrew, thank you
[05:40] <Ayide1> Okay Im hjaving some trouble. I need the kernel sources for kubuntu 5.10.. now ubuntu and kubuntu have the same kernel right? I cannot access apt-get because I need the sources to compile the driver I need first. Could someone please tell me where to find the sources?
[05:40] <MachineScrew> dooglus: no
[05:40] <MachineScrew> dooglus: I am saying that VMware wan'ts a different gcc
[05:41] <MachineScrew> there are bins for it
[05:41] <jrattner1> Are people having problems with the repositories im getting 404 Not Found errors
[05:41] <Ayide1> Okay Im hjaving some trouble. I need the kernel sources for kubuntu 5.10.. now ubuntu and kubuntu have the same kernel right? I cannot access apt-get because I need the sources to compile the driver I need first. Could someone please tell me where to find the sources?
[05:41] <jrr> Ayide1: apt sources are actually ftp or web servers - you can download the packages manually on a different machine
[05:42] <MachineScrew> dooglus: but there is a patch that you need for vmware any way
[05:42] <Ayide1> Okay, how do I?
[05:42] <Ayide1> I need the kernel-sources
[05:42] <Ayide1> not sure how to do it on another machine
[05:42] <Ayide1> but if I knew how that would REALLY help
[05:42] <MachineScrew> Ayide1: on sec
[05:42] <jrr> packages.ubuntu.com might be of assistance
[05:42] <Ayide1> okay
[05:42] <Ayide1> thx
[05:43] <brosioz> anyway exist a way to active dma on my dvdrecorder without hdparm ?
[05:43] <ubuntuguy> anyone: what is this java-package program? Does that let me build a .deb package from a java distribution?
[05:44] <jrr> yes.
[05:44] <dooglus> ubuntuguy: you give it sun's .bin and it wraps it up in a .deb so you can install and uninstall it cleanly
[05:44] <MachineScrew> Ayide1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[05:44] <MachineScrew> Ayide1: that should be all you need
[05:44] <Colloid> why is the wiki https?
[05:45] <ubuntuguy> dooglus: thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for
[05:45] <MachineScrew> Colloid: to make it offical
[05:45] <Ayide1> okay ill go check that
[05:45] <Colloid> but they didn't even buy a proper ssl key
[05:45] <Ayide1> is java easy to install on kubuntu?
[05:45] <MachineScrew> Ayide1: yes
[05:45] <ui> !restricted formats
[05:45] <ubotu> methinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[05:46] <pinucset> one think, can amarok work in gnome?
[05:46] <dooglus> pinucset: sure
[05:46] <seethru> pinucset: yes
[05:46] <xTina> Hm. Shouldn't update-alternatives be able to set the Kubuntu usplash back to be the regular Ubuntu usplash? Or is there some program that needs to be run first?
[05:46] <dooglus> pinucset: you'll need to get the gnome libraries, but synaptic/apt-get will take care of that for you
[05:46] <MachineScrew> Ayide1: this should do it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:46] <dooglus> just might be a big download is all
[05:47] <axlpxl> [17:44:55]  rejected by tracker - Port 6881 - Blocked!
[05:47] <MachineScrew> Ayide1: most of what you need
[05:47] <dooglus> pinucset: *KDE* libs, of course
[05:47] <axlpxl> How do i open port 6881?
[05:47] <pinucset> wich is this apt-get?
[05:47] <pinucset> apt-get install kde libs?
[05:47] <trevis> how do i make sure that my nvidia drivers were intsalled correcty? when i try and run penguin racer it lags like no other..
[05:47] <Ayide1> yeah it says how to find the sources on apt-get
[05:47] <Chousuke> axlpxl: I think it's blocked on their end
[05:47] <Ayide1> how do I when not using apt-get
[05:47] <Chousuke> axlpxl: change your port to something else
[05:47] <MachineScrew> axlpxl: are you behind a router
[05:47] <LazyAngel> how do i shutdown the x server?
[05:47] <mohamed> hi evrybody
[05:48] <dooglus> LazyAngel: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:48] <Ayide1> you could use init 3
[05:48] <Ayide1> to shut down xserver
[05:48] <dooglus> Ayide1: gdm is in level 3
[05:48] <LazyAngel> dooglus: thanks
[05:48] <DonTodd> hello, anybody here get gmailfs working in breezy yet?
[05:48] <MachineScrew> DonTodd: never
[05:48] <mohamed> I have the breezy , how to pass into the stable?
[05:48] <dooglus> mohamed: you make it sound like a disease :)
[05:48] <axlpxl> No im not behind firewall, router or anything
[05:48] <DonTodd> MachineScrew: aww man! :(
[05:49] <axlpxl> it worked on hoary
[05:49] <MachineScrew> DonTodd: there is a web version
[05:49] <MachineScrew> mohamed: sudo apt-get update
[05:49] <ui> !tell me about restricted formats
[05:49] <DonTodd> MachineScrew: xmailharddrive, or something else?
[05:50] <MachineScrew> DonTodd: ya
[05:50] <mohamed> Machinescrew thanks
[05:50] <mohamed> Machinescrew : thanks
[05:50] <Xenguy> sproingie: well, .xinitrc appeared to have no effect, and .xsession killed my gnome environment -- so 2 strikes here ;-)
[05:50] <MachineScrew> mohamed: no prob
[05:50] <kiwibird> anyone know why my breezy nee hoary firefox has all messed up text now? and x in general seems to get a lot of artifacts etc after my error-filled dist-upgrade...
[05:50] <lhb> ahhhh... need to get onto a ntfs partition
[05:50] <Paradoxx> how large is the upgrade to breezy?
[05:50] <bpf> kiwibird, did you restart your machine or at least the x server?
[05:51] <kiwibird> i've been getting soo many errors on that dist-upgrade..
[05:51] <kiwibird> yeah, buncha times heh
[05:51] <MachineScrew> Paradoxx: large
[05:51] <kiwibird> ran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg too
[05:51] <lhb> it is mounted but i cant copy anything from it
[05:51] <nightswim> !refreshrate
[05:51] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, nightswim
[05:51] <MachineScrew> Paradoxx: do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to find out
[05:51] <trevis> can anyone point me to a tutorial on updating nvidia drivers?
[05:51] <Paradoxx> so i'm guessing it isn't recommended i do an upgrade via apt-get or somthing like that?
[05:51] <mohamed> and how to check my linux version?
[05:52] <dooglus> Paradoxx: that's exactly what IS recommended
[05:52] <MachineScrew> Paradoxx: ya
[05:52] <MachineScrew> mohamed: version
[05:52] <MachineScrew> i think
[05:52] <lhb> mohamed: uname -a
[05:52] <bretzel> What the heck about libsigc++-2.0 stuff ??? the dev pkg hooked to cpp-2.95 ???????????/
[05:52] <Paradoxx> lol, kk
[05:52] <MachineScrew> mohamed: nope
[05:52] <MachineScrew> mohamed: nevermind
[05:52] <mohamed> lhb: thanks does it tell stable/unstabe?
[05:52] <dooglus> Paradoxx: although the mirrors might be a little slow, with everyone updating at once, so maybe getting the install iso and inserting it while hoary is running is better.
[05:53] <Paradoxx> hmm, guess so
[05:53] <Xmeridio> hi all,I have a problem with a thinkpad R32 can someone help me? Did someone have success to install 5.10 on this laptop?
[05:53] <dooglus> it offers "I noticed you just put in a ubuntu cd - do you want to add it as a repository" or some such :)
[05:53] <dooglus> (well, breezy offers that - I don't know if hoary does)
[05:54] <Paradoxx> i'll do the update i guess, i gonna b out for most of the day
[05:54] <Paradoxx> so i guess
[05:54] <DonTodd> anybody here able to disable tap-to-click with alps touchpad?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> i always remove the cd. as a source.
[05:54] <TFP85> man i love ubuntu
[05:54] <dooglus> DonTodd: what driver does it use?
[05:54] <TFP85> everything works
[05:54] <TFP85> great new release
[05:54] <jaramillo> hello guys, is there an up-to-date guide to mono-development with ubuntu ?
[05:54] <DonTodd> dooglus: looks like synaptic
[05:54] <dooglus> DonTodd: in that case I can help you
[05:54] <Colloid> anyone having problems or is able to get gPHPEdit to work properly on 5.10?
[05:55] <puff> morning... so how did the breezy release go?
[05:55] <lhb> mohamed: no, linux kernel version
[05:55] <jaramillo> i've installed a few packages but seems to be unable to compile some files
[05:55] <jaramillo> ;-\
[05:55] <kiwibird> humf, not my breezy.. hoary worked for me tho.. *sigh*
[05:55] <Paradoxx> you kno what would b cool...
[05:55] <Raskall-mob> is breezy released? I thought it wasn't due until sunday.
[05:55] <MachineScrew> i am going to sleep for a bit up all night
[05:55] <mohamed> how to enable DMA for my CD drive
[05:55] <DonTodd> dooglus: I've tried hacking xorg.conf, but no love
[05:55] <Paradoxx> if they couldn't implement bit torrent into synaptic
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> DonTodd,  the gentoo wikis mention it -->  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[05:55] <Paradoxx> could*
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  lol.
[05:55] <mohamed> lhb: 2.6.12-9-386
[05:55] <kiwibird> aeae
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> give them a year.
[05:56] <kiwibird> um
[05:56] <CuriousCat> Raskall-mob: yup. since yesterday
[05:56] <dooglus> DonTodd: A tap event happens when the finger is touched and released in a time
[05:56] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: hehe, guess so
[05:56] <dooglus> interval shorter than MaxTapTime
[05:56] <oxez> apt-get upgrade doesn't work, normal?
[05:56] <dooglus> DonTodd: so set MaxTapTime to zero, and you'll not be able to tap faster than that...
[05:56] <puff> Raskall-mob: Ah, sunday?  Last I checked they said Oct 13th.  I haven't been looking closely... been doing my best to ignore temptation, because I can't afford too much downtime on my laptop :-).
[05:56] <Raskall-mob> CuriousCat: cool.. strange that I dont have any updates pending, then. I don't think I've updated since wednesday.
[05:57] <dooglus> DonTodd:     If you set MaxTapTime=0 then the touchpad will not use tapping at
[05:57] <dooglus>     all, i.e. touching/tapping will not be taken as a mouse click.
[05:57] <Paradoxx> wowo, the breezy sources are taking a while to d/l
[05:57] <Paradoxx> lol
[05:57] <Trinitrogen> I can't get apt-get install wpasupplicant to work? It keeps telling me it couldn't find the package but I see it on the debian package site
[05:58] <brosioz> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[05:58] <brosioz>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[05:58] <brosioz>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[05:58] <DonTodd> dooglus: I have MaxTapTime at 0, and Tapbutton1=0
[05:58] <brosioz> anyone could help ?
[05:58] <Paradoxx> hmm, 418 mb d/l
[05:58] <dooglus> DonTodd: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[05:58] <Dekkard> i hate gcj
[05:58] <Dekkard> grrr
[05:58] <bretzel> Wow! in hoary I was unable to enable DMA on my hdc dvd drive now it works!!!
[05:58] <hector> hola
[05:59] <pjw> Is ubuntu-5.10-rc-dvd-amd64.iso beta?
[05:59] <DonTodd> dooglus: uh, new to irc, let me find out what pastebin is
[05:59] <dooglus> !paste
[05:59] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:59] <apokryphos> pjw: it's the release candidate; not official release.
[06:00] <trevis> woops, can anyone point me to a tutorial to install nvidia drivers on amd64 ubuntu? my internet died
[06:00] <dooglus> DonTodd: don't worry about filling in the boxes, just paste your xorg.conf and click 'send' (or whatever it's called).  then tell us the URL here
[06:00] <pjw> apokryphos: when will the official release be?
[06:01] <puff> If I wanted to partition my drive and have two or three different ubuntu installations on separate partitions, with the user data, etc, on its own partition, what's a minimum reasonable size for the ubuntu installation partitions?
[06:01] <jackmacokc> can anyone take a look and please help? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75934
[06:01] <apokryphos> pjw: it was released yesterday :)
[06:01] <apokryphos> pjw: you're looking for the dvd iso? One sec..
[06:01] <pjw> yes
[06:02] <oxez> Is there a way to check if my preview install of breezy is up to date with the final release? A 'release' file or whatever?
[06:02] <Colloid> Can someone check out: http://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png for me and see what is wrong?!
[06:02] <apokryphos> oxez: it isn't
[06:02] <trevis> i think my nvidia drivers are loaded, but they dont seem to be changing anything, glxgears still gives me like 1 fps
[06:02] <oxez> apokryphos: ?
[06:02] <jackmacokc> colloid: The image %u201Chttp://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png%u201D cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
[06:02] <Colloid> try again
[06:02] <Raskall-mob> btw, I am sitting on a train running 150 km/h logged from breezy. bluetooth setup against my phone just worked. :) But this is old news. Been doing it since hoary
[06:02] <Colloid> i uploaded as ascii, i fixxed
[06:02] <mohamed> guys , I don' t apt-get upgrade has upgraded my distrib
[06:03] <apokryphos> oxez: the official release is significantly different (in a plethora of ways) to the preview
[06:03] <dooglus> apokryphos: a plethora?  really?   like what?
[06:03] <Colloid> http://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png - breezy badger is fucked.
[06:03] <DonTodd> doogus: i put it on the web http://webonaire.com/~todd/xorg.conf
[06:03] <dooglus> Colloid: did you report it?
[06:03] <Colloid> i couldn't find the package name for gPHPEdit
[06:03] <Colloid> so not yet
[06:04] <dooglus> DonTodd: ta.  problems with pastebin?
[06:04] <twibbler> does anybody know which repository to add to get skype please
[06:04] <graabein> hi, i have a question regarding pre-upgrade...
[06:04] <apokryphos> dooglus: I thought gnome was just put in about that time, actually; but anyhow, a whole bunch of bugfixes, tweaked apps, more docs etc etc
[06:04] <apokryphos> pjw: it's hard to imagine the ubuntu servers slower than this.. sorry, it's taking time.
[06:04] <graabein> the wiki says to check for conflicting packages... how do i do that?
[06:04] <Xenom> little question -> How can i get myself root rights or how can i copy files in a root dir. cia the root terminal
[06:04] <mohamed> twibbler: get the .deb from www.skype.com
[06:04] <MFen> thank god for apt-proxy
[06:04] <vengeful_> sudo
[06:04] <twibbler> thanks mohamed
[06:05] <apokryphos> !tell Xenom about sudo
[06:05] <jrr> Xenom: sudo bash, but be careful =] 
[06:05] <nava> soemthing weird happened to my ubuntu....i started and now the fonts in the log in screen are very small....but after that when im logged on..the fonts are fine..only the gDeskcal fonts are huge
[06:05] <apokryphos> graabein: just make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed. If so, then go right ahead for the upgrade
[06:05] <bloodnik> how does one find out if a partition is ext2 or 3?
[06:05] <graabein> apokryphos, ok thanks!
[06:05] <Xenom> Ok, i always login with su, but i need to copy a folder to a folder where i have no access.. how can i do this trough the terminal?
[06:05] <bloodnik> In fact, scratch that -- how do I make an ext3 partition?
[06:05] <Xenom> copy doens't work :)
[06:05] <graabein> apokryphos, cause it said something about firefox as an example
[06:06] <apokryphos> bloodnik: sudo fdisk -l
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> bloodnik,  fdisk -l    - should show it.
[06:06] <HCl> mkfs.ext3.. ?
[06:06] <bloodnik> fdisk -l just says "linux"
[06:06] <apokryphos> graabein: link?
[06:06] <apokryphos> bloodnik: id
[06:06] <Xmeridio> Do someone can help me? My 5.10 installation freeze on thinkpad r32
[06:06] <dooglus> DonTodd: it may be nothing, but are you allowed to have 2 "CorePointer"s?
[06:06] <graabein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:06] <Raskall-mob> well.. soon home now.
[06:06] <bloodnik> 83 = ext3?
[06:06] <jackmacokc> anybody have a clue why switching from AGP to PCI graphics causes a kernel panic?
[06:06] <Trinitrogen> How do I apt-get wpasupplicant?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Xmeridio,  what video card and cpu?
[06:07] <apokryphos> bloodnik: yes
[06:07] <dooglus> DonTodd: here's mine: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/xorg.conf
[06:07] <bloodnik> ok ta
[06:07] <Xmeridio> is a ati radeon and a 1,6 GHz intel mobile
[06:07] <thirso> Can anyone please help me out with this? http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8301/screenshot17fc.png Trying to compile my network adapter driver
[06:07] <linfoo> bloodnik: mkfs.ext3 /dev/{device}mkfs.ext3 /dev/{device}
[06:07] <modzero> quick question for anyone who can answer
[06:07] <Xmeridio> but I think it's dvd
[06:07] <linfoo> bloodnik: double paster sorry
[06:08] <DonTodd> dooglus: is this what you're after? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3086
[06:08] <modzero> runnin ftp server here, and need to determine my ip adress outside of my lan. im set for dmz etc etc. but can connect to my own ftp server need my ip addy seems its changed wich is odd
[06:08] <bloodnik> yay it's making it :)
[06:08] <N6REJ> how do yo set the "SUID" bit for a file?
[06:08] <linfoo> modzero: whatsmyip.com
[06:08] <apokryphos> graabein: having both of those packages is an odd occurence. And actually, I'm not sure if it's possible, but I won't change it for now.
[06:08] <N6REJ> and g'morning to all
[06:08] <dooglus> DonTodd: that's it - but it doesn't matter either way.  it's usually just quicker to use a pastebin site
[06:09] <graabein> apokryphos, allright, ill just do the desktop package and take the plunge
[06:09] <dooglus> DonTodd: did you see my 'corepointer' comment?
[06:09] <DonTodd> dooglus: gotcha; not sure about 2 core pointers, I'll give it a shot
[06:09] <Knorrie> N6REJ: man chmod, btw, it's good evening :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Xmeridio,  like a x200 ati chip?
[06:09] <apokryphos> graabein: chances are you already have it, but in this case it is indeed a case of "better safe than sorry".
[06:09] <N6REJ> Knorrie chmod +S ?
[06:09] <thesaltydog> any idea on how to have a flash plugin working on firefox (i386)?
[06:09] <Xmeridio> no no, it's a mobile
[06:10] <jackmacokc> thesaltydog: have you checked the wiki?
[06:10] <dooglus> DonTodd: try commenting the one in 'synaptics'.  leave the conf.mouse alone.
[06:10] <Xmeridio> i think ati radeon mobile with 12 mb built in
[06:10] <dooglus> you don't want "SendCoreEvents" and "CorePointer" together
[06:10] <Xenom> thesaltydog: www.macromedia.com download installer
[06:10] <Knorrie> N6REJ: just read the man page :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Xmeridio,  Hmm.. on some of the ati systems lately - ive seen where you need to either disable hardware acelleration in the xorg.conf - or set it to use the vesa drivers
[06:10] <thesaltydog> jackmacokc, yes. Installed flashplugin-nonfreee doesn't work
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Xmeridio,  of course theres the official atifglrx drivers you could try also.
[06:10] <[A] ndy80> I've a problem starting NIS daemon. When I start it it says: Starting NIS services: ypbind [binding to YP server .......... backgrounded] , is it ok?
[06:10] <nava> what would happen if i upgrade my sistem and i loose the connection while its being upgrading? will i have to start over or continue later?
[06:10] <thesaltydog> jackmacokc, all my flash images are frozen
[06:11] <apokryphos> nava: re-running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will continue from where it left off :)
[06:11] <Xmeridio> i think the problem is not related to the video card
[06:11] <nava> thanks!
[06:11] <jackmacokc> thesaltydog, what xenom said: www.macromedia.com and download the installer from there. that usually works i think as well
[06:11] <thesaltydog> Xenom, I have to install manually? Packages don't work=?
[06:11] <DonTodd> dooglus: thanks, gonna restart X now
[06:11] <dooglus> DonTodd: by the way - why are you disabling tapping?
[06:11] <Xmeridio> i've seen in google that is a problem whit modules of dvd
[06:11] <Xenom> thesaltydog: yes i did it manually
[06:11] <jackmacokc> thesaltydog, it does it from within the browser last i remember...theres nothing to "install"
[06:11] <rodietze> How many cDs can I ship for free from Ubuntu? I'd like to distribute in schools here in Brazil
[06:11] <jrattner1> where can I get the SMP kernel
[06:12] <apokryphos> rodietze: an awful lot; check on shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <thesaltydog> jackmacokc, I just did it. Still frozen images..
[06:12] <rodietze> cool!
[06:12] <jackmacokc> hmm
[06:12] <Xenom> thesaltydog: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[06:12] <DonTodd> dooglus: just a preference--I keep accidentally 'clicking' all over
[06:12] <thesaltydog> Xenom, ok I'll try
[06:12] <modzero> ok i was wrong my ip was correct i just cant connect anyone familiar with pureftpd here?
[06:12] <Xmeridio> the installation process start, i select language and it mount the cdrom
[06:12] <dooglus> DonTodd: there's a way of disabling the touchpad for <n> milliseconds after each keypress - so you can't accidentally hit it when you're typing
[06:12] <webguy> i am thinking of installing ubuntu as a server.  is there a web page which describes the minimal resources/suggested resources from a memory and processor perspective
[06:12] <jackmacokc> jrattner1, can you not get it with apt-get?
[06:13] <limguohong91> When i run sudo apt-get install totem-xine. Do i run it under my own user?
[06:13] <florah> why would i have sound in totem, etc but not tuxracer?
[06:13] <modzero> florah killall esd
[06:13] <Xmeridio> but when starts to install it freeze and pressing alt+f2 the last message is refered to the module isofs.ko
[06:13] <bpf> Ng, should I follow that howto and use any-any93 or the newer any-any94 (i'm thinking the latter)?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> limguohong91,  yes you can run xine/totem as the user.
[06:13] <dooglus> DonTodd: also, before you restart X, add this line: 
[06:13] <modzero> enlightenment is the devil
[06:13] <dooglus>         Option          "CircularScrolling"     "1" # enable circular scrolling
[06:13] <florah> modzero, what is killall esd?
[06:13] <limguohong91> Thanks Dr_Willis
[06:13] <dooglus> it gives you iPod-style touch-wheel scrolling :)
[06:13] <modzero> open a terminal and type killall esd then try and run tuxracer, enlightenement is a sound daemon
[06:14] <Xenom> Leaving, bye
[06:14] <modzero> its crappy and if you kill it i bet youll have sound in tuxracer
[06:14] <modzero> let me know
[06:14] <webguy> i am thinking of installing ubuntu as a server.  is there a web page which describes the minimal resources/suggested resources from a memory and processor perspective
[06:14] <pinucset> how can i update amarok to the last release?
[06:14] <modzero> anyone familiar with setting up an ftp server running pure-ftpd?
[06:14] <jackmacokc> so, nobody has a clue why i'm getting a kernel panic when switching from AGP to PCI graphics?
[06:14] <jackmacokc> modzero, i had a lot of trouble setting that up...vsftpd was easier IMO
[06:15] <dooglus> modzero: I did it a couple of years ago on mandrake.  it's a nice server
[06:15] <florah> i use proftp
[06:15] <modzero> yeah but im testing pure admin out :(
[06:15] <miksu> still no luck compiling adom-sage. has anyone done it?
[06:15] <spiral> hi
[06:15] <modzero> gui im interested in.
[06:15] <DonTodd> dooglus: thanks, I'll give it a whirl now
[06:15] <florah> ok killing esd did the trick (thanks modzero), but how can i get both game-sounds and desktop/totem sounds to work?
[06:15] <limguohong91> But when i run sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my own user, nothing come up, do i have to do anything before i can use sudo?
[06:16] <florah> !tell limguohong91 restricted formats
[06:16] <modzero> well florah if you do it with esd id be proud lol. just open a terminal again and type start esd
[06:16] <Colloid> too many ppl need help here, not enough helpers
[06:16] <marcel2105> hallo zusammen
[06:16] <florah> limguohong91, search for "ubuntu restricted formats"
[06:16] <modzero> lot of reading there but i can give you some links to get started if your that crazy about it
[06:16] <limguohong91> okay, florah
[06:16] <miksu> i would say this is working fine. after all, everyone is learning.
[06:16] <modzero> vsftpd does that run only from a command line?
[06:17] <florah> start esd <--- command not found
[06:17] <helpme> where can i order kubuntu breezy 5.10 dvd? i cant seem to find it ANYWHERE!  Plz help!
[06:17] <marcel2105> gibts hier jemand der mir vielleicht helfen kann???
[06:17] <modzero> hold on florah
[06:17] <modzero> i lied
[06:17] <modzero> just type esd
[06:17] <modzero> lol
[06:17] <modzero> oh make sure you dont have sound running thoug lmao esd wont like that
[06:17] <florah> ok thanks
[06:18] <suzan_> @marcel2105: go to the german chat #ubuntu-de for german questions! ;-)
[06:18] <florah> i guess i need to learn more about this sound business cuz that is confusing!
[06:18] <webguy> i am thinking of installing ubuntu as a server.  is there a web page which describes the minimal resources/suggested resources from a memory and processor perspective
[06:18] <modzero> auf wiedersehen :)
[06:18] <florah> (turn off the sound daemon so sound in games will work)
[06:18] <florah> webguy, why not just use sarge?
[06:18] <linuxamoeba21> breezy is the best thing since sliced bread.
[06:18] <jackmacokc> webguy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=45
[06:18] <webguy> what is sartge florah
[06:19] <florah> webguy, debian stable
[06:19] <modzero> its debian and this is ubuntu florah
[06:19] <modzero> naughty naughty
[06:19] <webguy> i have been hearing aobout ubunto... thought i would try i t out
[06:19] <florah> ooooo sorrrrr-eeeeee
[06:19] <modzero> lol
[06:19] <florah> webguy, i use it as my home server, works like a champ
[06:19] <modzero> lucky titrium isnt here
[06:19] <HCl> i personally get the impression ubuntu is good for desktops, debian good for servers\
[06:20] <florah> (but we use the other for our mission critical servers at the office)
[06:20] <linuxamoeba21> webguy, best os ever
[06:20] <linuxamoeba21> there is a server version of ubuntu
[06:20] <modzero> ubuntu is built on debian
[06:20] <redguy|work> hyrm
[06:20] <webguy> what are the minimal reqs for the server
[06:20] <modzero> its like windows 2k and nt
[06:20] <florah> ubuntu is debian just with lotsa more stuff on top
[06:20] <HCl> thats all true ofcourse
[06:20] <modzero> not really though lol
[06:20] <modzero> ubuntu is a bit more bleeding edge
[06:20] <florah> !tell me esd
[06:20] <dgold> can anyone say whether the absence of 'terminal' from Breezy System menu is deliberate, or a local problem?
[06:21] <Bourne> can the breezy installer resize a windows partition?
[06:21] <linuxamoeba21> deliberate, i believe
[06:21] <florah> dgold, look in accessories
[06:21] <linuxamoeba21> redhat ditched the terminal button back in version 8
[06:21] <redguy|work> got lots of ' perl: warning: Setting locale failed. ' during upgrade is that ok?
[06:21] <modzero> http://www.tux.org/~ricdude/EsounD.html
[06:21] <Xenthro> I set my desktop resolution to 1200x1600 and now my trash is floating in the middle of the panel... how do I put it back?
[06:21] <mohamed> how can i upgrade my distrib to the stable
[06:21] <Bourne> Or do I have to do that myself?
[06:21] <modzero> start here to find out what esd is exactly
[06:21] <linuxamoeba21> Xenthro, right click and "move"
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> dgold,  hmm.. i had one somewhere.I always put it in the  bar at the top.  i install otherr terminal software also. :P
[06:21] <webguy> how do upgrades work?
[06:21] <apokryphos> florah: no, it isn't. Read /msg ubotu relationship for what it actually is
[06:22] <linfoo> Xenthro: right click unlock, right click move, right click lock
[06:22] <dooglus> dgold: install a package called 'nautilus-open-terminal' if you want your 'terminal' menu entry back
[06:22] <Xenthro> wow... dont i feel stupid. thanks!
[06:22] <dgold> florah: cheers < hits self upside the head>
[06:22] <florah> apokryphos, thanks for the hair-splitting ;)
[06:22] <modzero> http://www.alsa-project.org/
[06:22] <modzero> then here
[06:22] <linuxamoeba21> webguy, you want to upgrade what to what
[06:22] <linfoo> Xenthro: not a problem.
[06:22] <florah> !tell me relationship
[06:22] <modzero> http://www.opensound.com/linux.html
[06:22] <modzero> then here
[06:22] <modzero> and finally
[06:22] <apokryphos> florah: use /msg for investigating with ubotu
[06:23] <Robi_> are there any issues upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[06:23] <webguy> well as new releases come out how do you upgrade the system.  also how do you keep the system secure.  as you can see i am a newbie linuxamoeba21
[06:23] <linuxamoeba21> Robi_, worked fine for me
[06:23] <florah> i did it said it won't do it
[06:23] <modzero> http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/index.php
[06:23] <Jedrick> i need help  i cant view clips on my browser... i mean my totem as the default player won't play
[06:23] <apokryphos> florah: what?
[06:23] <Jedrick> why is that?
[06:23] <Robi_> linuxamoeba21 , so just change your sources and dist-upgrade?
[06:23] <modzero> ok now ive helped, can someone help me with a pureftpd server?!! lol
[06:24] <dooglus> modzero: what's the probem?
[06:24] <florah> apokryphos, msg ubotu relationship ?
[06:24] <modzero> thx
[06:24] <apokryphos> that's right
[06:24] <linuxamoeba21> webguy and robi_, change sources in /etc/apt/source.list or synaptic, then in terminal run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[06:24] <modzero> running server and cant connect period
[06:24] <dooglus> florah: put a / infront of that
[06:24] <modzero> sure my ip is correct no showing any debug errors either
[06:24] <florah> yes i know that
[06:24] <florah> ubotu No, florah, I won't. (target invalid?)
[06:24] <ubotu> florah: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:24] <modzero> dmz is setup etc etc
[06:24] <webguy> is it really that easy linuxamoeba21
[06:24] <dooglus> !relationship
[06:24] <ubotu> dooglus: No idea
[06:24] <dooglus> hmm
[06:24] <linuxamoeba21> webguy, as for security, patches are regularly pushed out through up2date, so just click install
[06:24] <Robi_> linuxamoeba21 , ya i know that, jsut wondering if there was anything else
[06:25] <linuxamoeba21> that's all i did
[06:25] <apokryphos> hm, apparently removed. Just debian factoid then..
[06:25] <apokryphos> !debian
[06:25] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[06:25] <webguy> so how much ram and processor speed to run a baisc server?
[06:25] <modzero> dooglus. ftp server? :(
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> not a lot webguy .
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you are serving also.
[06:25] <linuxamoeba21> i've run a server with a pentium-90 and only the onboard ram. depends on what you're looking fo
[06:25] <florah> ok thx apokrylaphtic
[06:25] <HCl> webguy: depends on what you're wanting to serve
[06:25] <webguy> give me an idea, i want to recycle and old computer as a web server
[06:26] <dooglus> modzero: you can't access it from the host it's running on?
[06:26] <DonTodd> dooglus: still no go on disabling tapping
[06:26] <HCl> a pentium 60 can do fine as a simple webserver
[06:26] <modzero> nada
[06:26] <dooglus> DonTodd: strange.  I'll try using your synaptic entry in my xorg.conf...
[06:26] <modzero> even tried net2ftp
[06:26] <linuxamoeba21> i don think pentium-60's exist...
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> now the install on such old/slow machines - can be a pain.. (ie SLOW)
[06:26] <HCl> ...
[06:26] <dooglus> DonTodd: I've never tried it - I just believed the docs.
[06:26] <DonTodd> dooglus: but you have an alps touchpad?
[06:26] <_Admin1> 486sx
[06:26] <linuxamoeba21> yeah
[06:26] <HCl> i had two on a shelf in my room
[06:26] <HCl> for over 3 years
[06:26] <dooglus> DonTodd: I have synaptics
[06:26] <_Admin1> hehe
[06:26] <HCl> trust me, they exist
[06:26] <HCl>  :P
[06:27] <HCl> i successfully had one as my router/server for a year too
[06:27] <linuxamoeba21> i want one
[06:27] <dooglus> modzero: I'll be back in a bit
[06:27] <Strog> doesn't take much for lowend
[06:27] <modzero> k
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> C64 web server :P
[06:27] <_Admin1> d
[06:27] <modzero> smoke break
[06:27] <_Admin1> :/
[06:27] <webguy> thax all, i'll let you know how it goes
[06:27] <linuxamoeba21> good luck
[06:28] <DonTodd> dooglus: i have read that it requires some work to get things working with alps: http://home.uchicago.edu/~chad/
[06:28] <skepsis> Cant't find with apt packages php4-gd and php4-mysql
[06:28] <florah> !tell me jack
[06:28] <florah> so what is the relationship between jack and esd, if any?
[06:28] <apokryphos> florah: is there a reason for why you're not using /msg ?
[06:28] <Robi_> crimsun greetz
[06:28] <dooglus> DonTodd: the hard bit is getting the driver working.  you've got it working, or tapping wouldn't work (would it?)
[06:28] <apokryphos> florah: and being annoying
[06:29] <DonTodd> doolgus: like patching the kernel; I've tried this, but these instructions are for 2.6.10 source
[06:29] <silent_scream> hey all
[06:29] <apokryphos> hi
[06:29] <florah> apokryphos, i could've sworn yesterday i just used !tell
[06:29] <DonTodd> dooglus: true, it's working :)
[06:29] <apokryphos> florah: so what? Please don't use it; use /msg when telling yourself factoids
[06:29] <florah> apokryphos, wrong side of the bed this morning?
[06:30] <silent_scream> if iam a root how can i see the thrash bin of other users?
[06:30] <BooZee> MachineScrew: hey, finished with all of the codec things, but I had some problams...
[06:30] <apokryphos> florah: no; maybe, just maybe, the problem is with you and not me? ;-)
[06:30] <Sonderblade> how do i get ubuntu to detect my mouse middle button?
[06:30] <linuxamoeba21> question: i'm very disappointed with graphics with my (admittedly bad) ati radeon x300. do all atis suck? should i switch to nvidia?
[06:30] <florah> no, actually, i'm practically perfect in every way! :)
[06:30] <florah> you're just a big snug around the collar IYKWIM ;)
[06:30] <linfoo> silent_scream: ls /home/{user}/.Trash
[06:30] <skepsis> Hello! Is there packages "php4-gd" and "php4-mysql" out there anymore?
[06:31] <apokryphos> florah: yeah, sure. Well, I'm not gonna tell you again :)
[06:31] <florah> linuxamoeba21, did you get fglrx working?
[06:31] <MachineScrew> BooZee: what where they
[06:31] <BooZee> MachineScrew: when I tried installing (apt-get install) gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse and msttcorefonts i got errors
[06:31] <florah> apokryphos, thanks for being so sweet about it :)
[06:31] <linuxamoeba21> florah, it's installed, and i can do fglfx-info and all that
[06:31] <linuxamoeba21> but GL screensavers, tux racer, ... are all absolute crap
[06:31] <MachineScrew> BooZee: ok did you add multiverse for your repos ?
[06:31] <florah> linuxamoeba21, can you do the gears thing?
[06:31] <linuxamoeba21> yeah
[06:32] <BooZee> i don't know..
[06:32] <BooZee> MachineScrew: how can I check?
[06:32] <infernall> how do i send messages in console to another user?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> gee i was impressed at how well my x200m ati did video/3d/ considering how low end it is.
[06:32] <sexcopter8000m> hi, on my laptop, sound is working, but music is crackly. any ideas?
[06:32] <florah> i have a dell d610 with x300 and it performs a lot better after i got the fglrx thing working..
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> but given an option - use nvidia over ati. is what id say
[06:32] <MachineScrew> BooZee: at the end of each line in your sources.list there should be multiverse and universe
[06:32] <BooZee> let me check
[06:33] <MachineScrew> ok brb
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> florah, i can run glxgears, but not fgl_glxgears, so i guess i lied
[06:33] <modzero> good old nicotine
[06:33] <modzero> cough
[06:33] <florah> linuxamoeba21, i followed this exactly and it worked for me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:33] <miksu> aaaaaargh severe adom addiction how to get adom sage running in ubuntu???
[06:34] <linuxamoeba21> rockin'. i'll give it a try
[06:34] <BooZee> i have "breezy universe"
[06:34] <MachineScrew> modzero: just about what i was going to do lol
[06:34] <florah> tuxracer doesn't look like cs:s but it's fairly smooth
[06:34] <skepsis> who miksu
[06:34] <MachineScrew> BooZee: add multiverse at the end
[06:34] <stjepan> hello
[06:34] <MachineScrew> BooZee: to all of them
[06:34] <stjepan> I am trying to install pyfltk. I get this error: error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[06:34] <miksu> skepsis adom is THE rpg and adom sage is a frontend i need to compile to get it running
[06:34] <MachineScrew> wow a cool 77F
[06:35] <MachineScrew> here
[06:35] <WildBill> anyone running networkmanager with a properly functioning BIND setup?  Mine is completely b0rked...
[06:35] <BooZee> MachineScrew: but I don't have the universe in all of them.
[06:35] <skepsis> miksu: Ok.
[06:35] <tyliu> hello
[06:35] <foxgamer> Anyone know where I can find usb connected cameras? I thought it would be in mnt directory, but alas, no.
[06:35] <MachineScrew> BooZee: only the one with universe then I am sorry
[06:35] <dooglus> DonTodd: ok, I did a lot of tests...
[06:35] <miksu> skepsis someone mentioned of an older gcc but synaptic has just one gcc
[06:36] <dean> hay
[06:36] <modzero> the default port should be 21 for ftp correct?
[06:36] <miksu> skepsis you are finnish btw?
[06:36] <apokryphos> yup
[06:36] <dooglus> DonTodd: first off, if I remove the synaptics stuff altogether, the tapping still works...  so my guess is that the driver isn't being used at all.
[06:36] <tyliu> i am update to 510,but adsl not work by the system start time,how to set?
[06:36] <infernall> does anyone know how to chat with another user through linux console?
[06:36] <MachineScrew> miksu: ya there are sevral all the way up to 4.0
[06:36] <dooglus> DonTodd: so whatever settings you specify are ignored.
[06:36] <limguohong91> When i enter my password for my log in in the sudo when it asked for one. It said wrong password.... how can it be? is it a default password?
[06:36] <dean> need help how do i install java on ubuntu, need for some programs to run
[06:36] <apokryphos> !tell limguohong91 about sudo
[06:36] <dooglus> DonTodd: I also tried using your settings, and it worked fine without tapping.  (I removed the 'corepointer' bit)
[06:36] <MachineScrew> but I think you have to have the backports
[06:37] <miksu> machinescrew so how to command make to use 3.4.4 . and how to install it?
[06:37] <modzero> backports are screwed on hoary i think
[06:37] <dean> please help me on java problem
[06:37] <skepsis> miksu: Sorry, didn't catch your message. Don't know how to sroll back with irssi :(
[06:37] <modzero> commented them out
[06:37] <florah> !tell florah jack
[06:37] <MachineScrew> miksu: I am not shure on that
[06:37] <tyliu> what java problem?
[06:37] <miksu> skepsis oh never mind
[06:37] <Xmeridio> bye all
[06:37] <piero> ok, guys, just upgraded my system to breezy... my mouse pad went mad. any idea what it might be?
[06:38] <dean> i want to run azureus but i can't turn it on
[06:38] <MachineScrew> miksu: all I know is that they are there
[06:38] <dean> don't know how to run it
[06:38] <dean> or which packs has to be instakll
[06:38] <MachineScrew> miksu: I don't know how to make make do any thing
[06:38] <florah> anyone here use ardour?
[06:39] <apokryphos> dean: getit from their site
[06:39] <dean> need java for graphic
[06:39] <MachineScrew> miksu: I am very new to programing
[06:39] <DonTodd> dooglus: hmm, so it's not using the driver period
[06:39] <dooglus> DonTodd: that's about the size of it.
[06:39] <dooglus> DonTodd: what do you see in /var/log/X*
[06:39] <modzero> hmm dooglus where is the firewall administration in ubuntu? perhaps port 21 and/or ftp is blocked
[06:39] <dean> or better question why ubuntu doesn't know *.jar files, that he would automatic open them with java
[06:40] <humbolt> I have a intel hda sound card and somehow I do not get how to make select the micro source for recording. I choose capture on the mic and turn on capture, but that does not seem to be it.
[06:40] <MachineScrew> dean: you need java
[06:40] <dean> which java
[06:40] <dean> and how to install it
[06:41] <miksu> machivescrew yeah compiling should be as simple as 'make in source folder but i need to tell make to compile with gcc 3.4.4 and have now idea how to get it
[06:41] <modzero> blackdown is good
[06:41] <apokryphos> !tell dean about javadebs
[06:41] <apokryphos> (for sun java)
[06:41] <apokryphos> blackdown is available in Multiverse, if you're on Breezy.
[06:42] <modzero> sudo apt-get install blackdown maybe?
[06:42] <MachineScrew> dean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:42] <modzero> needs the repo though
[06:42] <modzero> sorry i dont much use managers
[06:42] <apokryphos> modzero: no, it's just j2re1.4 (for the jre)
[06:42] <steal> hi
[06:42] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: no point in doing that if the debs are available
[06:43] <dean> am can you tell me how do i then use deb files
[06:43] <modzero> he should be able to search java in synaptic though ?
[06:43] <dean> that they istall that java
[06:43] <apokryphos> dean: sudo dpkg -i somepackage.deb
[06:43] <apokryphos> (to install it)
[06:43] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: ya but will azureus use blackdown
[06:43] <steal> i'm trying to apply a patch to lopster with command patch  1.2.2-bugfixes-1.patch but it's still in wait
[06:43] <dean> tnx
[06:43] <dooglus> DonTodd: if you "grep -i synaptic /var/log/Xorg.0.log", do you see errors?
[06:43] <modzero> blackdown is more stable imho
[06:43] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: I have no idea, but I'm recommending the sun java debs
[06:43] <apokryphos> (which certainly do work with it)
[06:43] <adiabatic> I'm upgrading according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes and getting about 2KB/s; should I get a CD image from BitTorrent and use that instead?
[06:44] <modzero> azureus is yucky anyway lol
[06:44] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: oh ya ok I didn't know they where availible
[06:44] <apokryphos> adiabatic: it's a possible alternative
[06:44] <adiabatic> (it'll probably be faster)
[06:44] <nalioth> apokryphos: we still being /.'d?
[06:44] <miksu> lol i upgraded yesterday 30 kbs , took 6 hours. well, tough luck.
[06:44] <modzero> blackdown does work with azureus and its less of a mem hog. althoug azureus is still azureus
[06:44] <Howdy125> !j2re
[06:44] <apokryphos> nalioth: indeed; "having maintenance problems due to high traffic" -- i.e. servers are knackered :P
[06:44] <ubotu> Howdy125: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:44] <Howdy125> hehe
[06:45] <modzero> gnomebittorent here
[06:45] <MachineScrew> modzero: give me BitTornado any day
[06:45] <apokryphos> though actually using nothing at the mo because of uni
[06:45] <nalioth> Howdy125: try /msg ubotu java
[06:45] <modzero> anything but azur.. lol
[06:45] <DonTodd> dooglus: no errors, it says ALPS touchpad found, auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event2
[06:45] <MachineScrew> modzero: I want the latest version of ktorrent
[06:45] <nalioth> MachineScrew: go get it
[06:45] <MachineScrew> apokryphos:  I want the latest version of ktorrent
[06:45] <apokryphos> !info ktorrent
[06:45] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[06:45] <dooglus> DonTodd: could you update it?
[06:45] <maurycy> hey. I'd like to convert ntfs partition to ext2. any ideas how?
[06:45] <dooglus> DonTodd: *upload* it
[06:45] <MachineScrew> nalioth: not on my computer
[06:45] <shovelcat> hi
[06:46] <nalioth> MachineScrew: it can be done, if you want it badly enough
[06:46] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: I notice 1.1 is out though.. probably has a few bufixes. You'll need to compile for that though if you want it.
[06:46] <Howdy125> They have an easy to install java package at that tinyurl place .. I forget the actual url though ...
[06:46] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: otherwise I'd settle for 1.0 which is in the repos
[06:46] <MachineScrew> nalioth: my cd drive took a crap on me last night during install
[06:46] <shovelcat> i cant download the backport repository from .ca
[06:46] <flora> is jack a replacement for esd, or do they work in conjunction?
[06:46] <nalioth> Howdy125: try /msg ubotu java
[06:46] <modzero> ok a portscan says my port 21 is open for ftp. why in the name of god can i not connect to my ftp server?
[06:46] <apokryphos> Howdy125: /msg ubotu javadebs  =)
[06:46] <adiabatic> Um, can someone point me to a BitTorrent x86 (or similar) CD image link?
[06:46] <nalioth> MachineScrew: does your network and apt-get work?
[06:46] <steal> hi
[06:47] <Howdy125> ty everyone ..
[06:47] <adiabatic> (I can't find any links on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ where I last saw them)
[06:47] <MachineScrew> nalioth ya
[06:47] <nalioth> apokryphos: singular singular
[06:47] <nalioth> machine then you can get it
[06:47] <apokryphos> nalioth: javadebs gives quicker access
[06:47] <apokryphos> nalioth: though I didn't know ther ewas a mention of the debs in the restrictedformats entry
[06:47] <shovelcat> how can i get alll the package existing with ubuntu 5.10 ?
[06:47] <DonTodd> dooglus: http://webonaire.com/~todd/Xorg.0.log
[06:47] <MachineScrew> nalioth I am on a computer that has no sound and on 1gb left on a 4gb hd
[06:47] <Jedrick> i need help  i cant view clips on my browser... i mean my totem as the default player won't play
[06:48] <nalioth> apokryphos: we have 'javadeb' and 'javadebs' wtf?
[06:48] <apokryphos> nalioth: and at a quick glance, I still don't see it :P
[06:48] <apokryphos> nalioth: they're the same, yes.
[06:48] <MachineScrew> nalioth: so only on my computer is there a point and my computer is stuck
[06:48] <MachineScrew> nalioth: unless there is a way I can do a net boot into an install
[06:49] <modzero> pllllllllllease dear god is there a network admin here , if my ftp doesnt work im gonna cry, i mean it lol
[06:49] <MachineScrew> nalioth: i tried a usbstick install but it won't boot
[06:49] <dean> am i still get msg when i try to run that azerous can't find java in usr/java/
[06:49] <shovelcat> how can i get alll the package existing with ubuntu 5.10 ?
[06:49] <shovelcat> the listing
[06:50] <MachineScrew> nalioth: is there a way to revive my system ?
[06:50] <modzero> mouth to mouth
[06:50] <MachineScrew> modzero: if only
[06:50] <modzero> lol
[06:50] <limguohong91> I had tried to enter the password for the program "Run as different user" I used sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my name and i enter the password but nothing happen after sometime. Why?
[06:51] <dooglus> DonTodd: that is almost identical to mine.  I don't see what the problem is.
[06:51] <wezzer> I installed ati binary driver but now mplayer won't play movies fullscreen
[06:51] <nalioth> MachineScrew: after the breezy rush dies down, if you have apt-get surely
[06:51] <wezzer> In hoary I remember a command that helped, but now I can
[06:51] <dean> hay how do i run RPM files in ubuntu
[06:51] <graabein> probably a stupid question, but can i keep gaim and beep-media-player running while doing dist-upgrade?
[06:51] <modzero> sudo mkdir /mnt/usb_stick
[06:51] <modzero> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb_stick
[06:51] <wezzer> 't find it anywere
[06:51] <modzero> machine
[06:51] <modzero> plug in the stick and type the above
[06:52] <MachineScrew> is there a way to boot up from a eth and install ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[06:52] <nalioth> graabein: of course you can
[06:52] <DonTodd> dooglus: thanks for trying
[06:52] <dean> rpm files?
[06:52] <graabein> nalioth, thx
[06:52] <nalioth> MachineScrew: do you have a floppy?
[06:52] <MachineScrew> nalioth: no
[06:52] <nalioth> dean: you dont
[06:52] <limguohong91> I had tried to enter the password for the program "Run as different user" I used sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my name and i enter the password but nothing happen after sometime. Why?
[06:52] <dean> what can i do then
[06:52] <modzero> machine screw . plug the stick in and type the foloowing two lines in your terminal
[06:52] <modzero> sudo mkdir /mnt/usb_stick
[06:52] <modzero> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb_stick
[06:52] <MachineScrew> nalioth: there are 2 ways into my system usb and eth
[06:52] <shovelcat> where i can get docs for 5.10 ?
[06:52] <nalioth> dean: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[06:53] <MachineScrew> modzero: I tried that
[06:53] <nalioth> MachineScrew: do you have 2 computers?
[06:53] <modzero> can you give us the dmesg?
[06:53] <TedLemon> I've run into a bug in the way that xorg gets configured.   It's hard to decide how to report this - is it an ubuntu problem or an Xorg problem?
[06:53] <MachineScrew> nalioth: ya
[06:53] <modzero> last 30 lines
[06:53] <linkrjh> Total newb question
[06:53] <linkrjh> I just installed kmuddy
[06:53] <linkrjh> or whatever
[06:53] <nalioth> MachineScrew: will your afflicted one boot off the net?
[06:53] <linkrjh> I did the gunzip then tar then ./configure then make then make install
[06:53] <linkrjh> But now how do I run the program?
[06:53] <MachineScrew> nalioth: it has that ability
[06:53] <dean> do not know
[06:53] <dean> where can i look that
[06:53] <MachineScrew> nalioth: but has to do it in the bios
[06:54] <MachineScrew> if you can get me off of my gf old poc laptop that would be great
[06:54] <nalioth> MachineScrew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[06:55] <linkrjh> So how to I run a program after I did the ./configure, make, make install?
[06:55] <modzero> ill give access to my server to anyone who can get the dammn thing open to the net lol
[06:55] <nalioth> linkrjh: in the future, may i suggest using "checkinstall" instead of "make install" (makes system maintenance much easier)
[06:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell linkrjh about checkinstall
[06:55] <linkrjh> Okay...
[06:56] <linkrjh> So make, checkinstall?
[06:56] <Xenguy> Does anyone know how to automatically load a ~/.Xmodmap file when starting up X?  In this gdm/gnome environment, for some reason it is ignoring .xinitrc, and using .xsession instead causes gnome start-up to fail :-(   Anyone crossed this bridge before?
[06:56] <nalioth> linkrjh: read ubotus link
[06:56] <limguohong91> I had tried to enter the password for the program "Run as different user" I used sudo apt-get install totem-xine as my name and i enter the password but nothing happen after sometime. Why?
[06:56] <nalioth> linkrjh: and you should just be able to "programname" in a terminal
[06:56] <MachineScrew> nalioth: what do I need to put on her system
[06:56] <MachineScrew> dhcp-boot
[06:56] <linkrjh> Where do I find ubotus?
[06:57] <Xenthro>  I installed the package "mldonkey-server" how do I access it and where is it put in my filesystem?
[06:57] <djm62> limguohong91: that's kind of redundant: you can just open a terminal and type that (it will ask for your password)
[06:57] <djm62> limguohong91: or use System->Administration->Synaptic :)
[06:58] <limguohong91> djm62 so i just type sudo.... in there?
[06:59] <djm62> limguohong91: from "run as different user" you don't need to type sudo, just aptitude install totem-xine
[06:59] <nalioth> MachineScrew: why ubuntu of course
[06:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dean about sources
[06:59] <limguohong91> djm62: Thanks :)
[06:59] <limguohong91> So i run as my name or root?
[06:59] <djm62> limguohong91: if you run Synaptic, it will ask for your password, so no need to do sudo, and if you use a terminal, sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[07:00] <MachineScrew> nalioth: no I meen to do a dhcp-boot
[07:00] <marcus^> is it better to run Ubuntu server, or Debian?
[07:00] <nalioth> MachineScrew: i'm not familiar with net booting, only the wiki page
[07:00] <MachineScrew> ok
[07:00] <djm62> marcus^: for a corporate server? look at the support options
[07:00] <wezzer> umm, totem won't start after installing ati binary drivers
[07:00] <Myrtti> is it normal that my gnome-terminal flashes annoyingly allththe time?
[07:00] <graabein> another question -- The following packages have been kept back:
[07:00] <graabein>   bittorrent-gui monopd xine-ui -- is this normal??
[07:00] <nalioth> marcus^: they are virtually the same
[07:00] <nalioth> graabein: yes it is
[07:01] <wezzer> It says: "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector."
[07:01] <Myrtti> this makes using irssi like trying to get kicks by poking yourself in the eye
[07:01] <marcus^> ok
[07:01] <graabein> what does it mean?
[07:01] <nalioth> graabein: means those pkgs havent made it into the repos yet and/or there are unmet dependencies that they use that havent made it in yet
[07:02] <dooglus> graabein: you did an "upgrade" not a "dist-upgrade" did you?
[07:02] <graabein> havent done anything yet...
[07:02] <graabein> this is when i typed, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:02] <dooglus> graabein: so what gave you the "kept back" message?
[07:02] <Xenthro> hi... could somebody tell me how i can access the "mldonkey-server" package I just installed with synaptic?
[07:03] <graabein> i am supposed to do a dist-upgrade, right?
[07:03] <nalioth> graabein: from hoary to breezy, yes
[07:03] <graabein> yep
[07:04] <graabein> then i'm going for the y-key
[07:04] <graabein> :-)
[07:04] <dooglus> is there ever a time that it is better to do "upgrade" than "dist-upgrade"?
[07:05] <slept> no
[07:05] <graabein> what is the difference?
[07:05] <nalioth> dooglus: i only dist-upgrade when switching from major releases
[07:05] <dooglus> graabein: dist-upgrade will add and remove packages to sort out dependancies, and upgrade will only get new versions of existing packages.  I *think*
[07:05] <graabein> ok cool
[07:05] <dooglus> nalioth: I dist-upgrade every hour...  is that bad?
[07:06] <nalioth> dooglus: reckon not
[07:06] <adiabatic> When would it be bad?
[07:06] <graabein> but breezy is final now? do you still get new updates?
[07:06] <adiabatic> And if there's no good reason to do upgrade instead of dist-upgrade, why does upgrade still exist?
[07:06] <dooglus> seems to me there's two commands - "upgrade", which is a bit dumb, and "dist-upgrade" which is clever.  why use the dumb one?  why does it exist?  theremust be a good reason...
[07:06] <nalioth> graabein: you'll always get new updates
[07:06] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[07:06] <dooglus> adiabatic: snap :)
[07:06] <rrezende> upgrade doesn't try to remove packages
[07:07] <TedLemon> Okay, I guess Kopete is the wrong thing to use for IRC just yet.
[07:07] <graabein> okay, enough yakking, im gonna do it!
[07:07] <HaRDaWaY> i have one problem, i have breezy, and skype not runs, (any packages from skype.com), i have followed howtos, but not runs, when i execute skype, not runs can you help me please?
[07:07] <foxgamer> How do I report an error when the error reporting program gets an error every time?
[07:07] <dooglus> graabein: you'll have plenty of time for yakking while it does its stuff...  it ain't quick :)
[07:07] <dooglus> foxgamer: you bitch about it on IRC?
[07:07] <mahangu> foxgamer, catch22 eh ;-)
[07:07] <graabein> hmmm good point, ill keep x-chat open...
[07:07] <TedLemon> HaRDaWaY, how did you install skype?
[07:07] <foxgamer> yup!
[07:07] <mahangu> dooglus, have you been informed of the plans to take over the world
[07:07] <mahangu> ?
[07:08] <dooglus> foxgamer: or you raise a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <mahangu> the secret council meeting was held in the other channel
[07:08] <nalioth> mahangu: take it over in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:08] <dooglus> mahangu: I missed that meeting.
[07:08] <foxgamer> oh cool. thanks dooglus :)
[07:08] <dooglus> who's behind it?  gays or jews?
[07:08] <adiabatic> dooglus: Joel Spolsky.
[07:09] <mahangu> nalioth, sorry my bad
[07:09] <pc22> how do i copy a text from encrypted pdf?
[07:09] <mahangu> nalioth, dooglus isn't in there, anyway my fault :)
[07:09] <mahangu> dooglus, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:09] <pc22> how do i edit an encrypted pdf?
[07:09] <ScatterBrain> Anyone know why these packages don't exit in Breezy?: php5-doxml, php5-mcal, php5-pear,
[07:09] <ScatterBrain>  php5-xslt
[07:09] <HaRDaWaY> TedLemon, i have tried a lot of ways, (with alien, with dpkg -i --force-overwrite, installing before libqtmc debian package..etc...), and nothing
[07:10] <ScatterBrain> *exist
[07:10] <nalioth> pc22: you dont, unless you have the key
[07:10] <pc22> nalioth anything i can do
[07:10] <TedLemon> HaRDaWaY: breezy or hoary?  I have it running on Breezy, but to get it to stick around I had to hack the package.   :'(
[07:10] <pc22> i was able to do it in windows before
[07:10] <nalioth> pc22: find an unencrypted pdf?
[07:11] <dooglus> just a minute...  there are open source PDF viewers...  they must be able to decrypt PRF files, or how do they display them?
[07:11] <HaRDaWaY> TedLemon, breezy
[07:11] <pc22> nalioth, no able to copy text from encrypted pdf
[07:11] <HaRDaWaY> :S
[07:11] <nalioth> pc22: you can do that here
[07:11] <ericz> just looking for popular opinion, but which is better on breezy... gnome or kde?
[07:12] <pc22> how?
[07:12] <TedLemon> HaRDaWaY: Okay, so when you type "skype" on the shell prompt, it just hangs?
[07:12] <nalioth> ericz: personal preference
[07:12] <HaRDaWaY> yes, it not runs TedLemon
[07:12] <knowledge_> nalioth: How goes it?
[07:12] <ericz> :/
[07:12] <HaRDaWaY> TedLemon, with any error
[07:12] <nalioth> knowledge_: fine, ltns
[07:12] <HaRDaWaY> without errors
[07:12] <knowledge_> ltns?
[07:12] <HappyFool> ericz: if you have the bandwidth and disk space, try both
[07:12] <TedLemon> HaRDaWaY: do you get a shell prompt back?
[07:13] <HaRDaWaY> no
[07:13] <dooglus> longtimenosee
[07:13] <HaRDaWaY> not back TedLemon
[07:13] <ericz> happyfool: i am installing kde
[07:13] <ericz> i just want to know if its worth it
[07:13] <HaRDaWaY> TedLemon,  i have to push control + C
[07:13] <TedLemon> HaRDaWaY: weird.   it sounds like maybe it' s having trouble linking up.
[07:13] <HappyFool> well, at least you'll have an informed opinion
[07:13] <TedLemon> ericz: I am running with KDE, and it's very nice.
[07:13] <HaRDaWaY> TedLemon, aha, and how i can fix it?
[07:13] <TedLemon> ericz: UI needs to be more consistent, but it's not bad.
[07:13] <nalioth> ericz: you can use kde apps under gnome and vice versa
[07:14] <ericz> someone told me kde has like more options... for style
[07:14] <ericz> not sure
[07:14] <nalioth> ericz: both DMs are "open" to your interpretation
[07:14] <TedLemon> HaRDaWaY: I don't know.   I would start up a second window and run tcpdump and see if it's doing anything on the network (make sure you're not doing anything _else_ on the network).   If it's hanging, it's not a problem loading the app - it's running, but not getting anywhere.
[07:15] <HaRDaWaY> ok thanks
[07:15] <Jedrick> how to know if i have a server facilities installed?
[07:15] <nalioth> Jedrick: have you installed any server things?
[07:16] <Jedrick> i think not
[07:16] <Jedrick> how to isntall one?
[07:16] <BooZee> how can I copy CD's and DVD's ?
[07:16] <TedLemon> ericz: the main draw for me with KDE is that KMail seems to have a better UI than Evolution, and KDE is sort of mac-like (although that needs a lot of work).
[07:16] <nalioth> Jedrick: use synaptic
[07:16] <slept> Jedrick, what kind of server do you want ?
[07:16] <nalioth> TedLemon: that's funny
[07:16] <TedLemon> ericz: in general, there are good apps in KDE and good apps in Gnome, and vice versa - e.g., gnome terminal seems a lot better to me than kde terminal.
[07:16] <Jedrick> what are the types of server?
[07:17] <TedLemon> nalioth: I know, it seems deeply ironic to me.
[07:17] <ericz> interesting
[07:17] <Jedrick> or how many servers are tere
[07:17] <ericz> kde is taking forever to get the packages
[07:17] <TedLemon> nalioth: I think maybe it's that kmail is closer in functionality to Mail.app, and I just switched from the Mac.
[07:17] <sexcopter8000m> hi, is there a way to disable my touchpad when there's a usb mouse plugged in?
[07:17] <slept> Jedrick, what do you want to do , if you dont know  google  for server
[07:18] <slept> Jedrick, or do apt-cache search server
[07:18] <nalioth> Jedrick: you can have a ftp, ssh, http, nntp, irc, gopher, telnet, gpgkey, and probably some more
[07:18] <Jedrick> ok ill go for the ssh
[07:18] <mickskyvitch> I am unable to access my windows partitions from breezy though I can see them,any ideas?
[07:19] <ericz> are you supposed to be able to access windows partitions with breezy?
[07:19] <TedLemon> So I'll ask this question again: I've found a bug in the way that X probes the trackpad on my Sony on breezy.   The bug is probably somewhere in the xorg server, but it's the breezy version of the xorg server.   Should I file a breezy bug, or an xorg bug?
[07:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mickskyvitch about mountwindows
[07:19] <mickskyvitch> I ran that and still can't access them
[07:19] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: windows access is read only
[07:19] <slept> TedLemon, breezy I think
[07:19] <mickskyvitch> they have a red cross on them
[07:20] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: err, that is, ntfs partition access is read only
[07:20] <HappyFool> oh, that's probably just a umask thing
[07:20] <nalioth> TedLemon: you DO know you can use mail.app on ubuntu?
[07:20] <djm62> nalioth: how?
[07:21] <plt> hi@all
[07:21] <nalioth> djm62: compile it
[07:21] <plt> does anybody know something about mldonkey and ubuntu ?
[07:21] <ui> how do i install  sun-j2re1.5 in breezy?
[07:21] <mickskyvitch> so can I take it that other than the above which I have tried and found not to work the answer is no?
[07:21] <pinucset> how can i do for having a lower mouse speed in kubuntu breezy?
[07:21] <TedLemon> Nalioth: don't want to.   The whole point of switching to Linux is that I want to be able to help my non-wealthy, non-geek friends to run Linux, so that they don't keep running old versions of OSX.   :')
[07:21] <nalioth> djm62: actually it's in the repos. try "gnumail.app"
[07:21] <shaargaraepa> hoi
[07:21] <ScatterBrain> wOOT 2.4Kb/s apt-get install....I'm lovin' it!
[07:21] <VincentMX> hey why was i kicked?
[07:22] <calvin> hello, all.  anyone out there a fetchmail/postfix guru?
[07:22] <ScatterBrain> :-)
[07:22] <djm62> ScatterBrain: torrent downloaded in 25min...
[07:22] <VincentMX> hmm ok
[07:22] <Hoxzer> how can I make a directory writable for everyone?
[07:22] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: can you paste the contents of /etc/fstab, and the output of 'mount' to the pastebin?   (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[07:22] <calvin> my fetchmail isn't working since my Breezy upgrade yesterday
[07:22] <BooZee> hey people, how can I burn a copy of a CD and a DVD ?
[07:22] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: 'sudo chmod o+rwx <directoryname>'
[07:22] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool one moment thanks
[07:22] <nalioth> BooZee: use k3b
[07:23] <ScatterBrain> djm62: I'm trying to install Apache and PHP5 - I've already gotten Breezy.
[07:23] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: don't change perms of system directories (/usr etc)
[07:23] <djm62> ScatterBrain: unfortunate
[07:23] <nalioth> VincentMX: where were you kicked from?
[07:23] <BooZee> nalioth: what is it?
[07:23] <jose__> hi
[07:23] <dooglus> Hoxzer: if you chmod +t on the directory then people won't be able to delete each other's files
[07:23] <jose__> someone can tell me why i do not have wlan0 ?? or how can i put it?
[07:23] <ScatterBrain> djm62: Yeah, but I *completely* understand why.  I'm not complaining.
[07:23] <ui> noone knows? :(
[07:24] <nalioth> BooZee: k3b is the most featured cd/dvd burning software we have available
[07:24] <ScatterBrain> djm62: It just goes to show you how good Ubuntu is or how little bandwidth our servers have.
[07:24] <HappyFool> !tell ui about java
[07:24] <BooZee> nalioth: how do I install it?
[07:24] <joseole> someone can tell me why i do not have wlan0 ?? or how can i put it?
[07:24] <nalioth> BooZee: use synaptic
[07:24] <Mortis_pl> Look at www.muzyka.oz.pl The biggest site with Ubuntu downloads
[07:24] <Mortis_pl> http://www.muzyka.oz.pl
[07:25] <ui> happyfool nothing happened :P
[07:25] <HappyFool> ui: oopth
[07:25] <HappyFool> ui: oh, there is something now...
[07:25] <djm62> can anyone help me with usplash not working on my machine? dpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix it, and the image stuff seems to be in the right place. where do I look?
[07:25] <nalioth> ui: look for priv msgs
[07:25] <ui> :P
[07:26] <joseole> does someone, how can i find driver for a usb wireless device?
[07:26] <rrezende> djm62: did it stop work after upgrading?
[07:26] <Mortis_pl> For help look at http://www.teledyski.muzyka.oz.pl
[07:26] <djm62> rrezende: nope, it's never worked. (hoary didn't have it, breezy isn't doing it)
[07:26] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool,/etc/fstab/   doesnot exist output of mount is here   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3090
[07:26] <djm62> it's the one fly in my ointment
[07:26] <joseole> cuz the one that i have for windows someone told be its not 60bts and thats why it doenst work with ndiswrapper
[07:27] <rrezende> djm62: I had it working on breezy preview, but after upgrading to breezy final it stopped hehe
[07:27] <slept> djm62, did you add splashimage to grub
[07:27] <dooglus> djm62: it doesn't work for me, either.  it worked for a few hours about a month ago, but stopped as suddently as it started.
[07:27] <Ruudi> hi
[07:27] <djm62> slept: isn't grub splashimage a different thing? I do have that
[07:27] <linuxboy> is the ubuntu servers taking strane?
[07:27] <dooglus> thing is, it's just a silly graphic that's on the screen for a minute or so...  no great loss.
[07:28] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: check again for /etc/fstab -- i'm pretty sure you need it and have it
[07:28] <Ruudi> is there a way to get iMAC G5 fan speed control working with ubuntu linux?
[07:28] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: it's not in your home directory
[07:28] <djm62> dooglus: I personally concur, but it's the scariest bit of running ubuntu ("is this like DOS?" etc) when showing it to people
[07:28] <VincentMX> Ruudi search for fan in the apt
[07:29] <noodle> where do i get hte msttcorefonts for breezy?
[07:29] <lokylla> ola
[07:29] <VincentMX> Ruudi, you know how to use apt?
[07:29] <nalioth> noodle: from multiverse
[07:29] <lokylla> ola
[07:29] <Ruudi> got no linux installed jet VincentMX
[07:29] <lokylla> ola animaz
[07:29] <nalioth> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool,have looked in file sustem and though /etc/ is there no /etc/fstab/
[07:29] <noodle> nalioth: i enabled that ><
[07:29] <VincentMX> Ruudi, ok
[07:29] <lokylla> ai alguien ai pa hablar en espaol?
[07:29] <dooglus> djm62: fair point.
[07:29] <nalioth> noodle: they are there
[07:29] <nalioth> lokylla: en #ubuntu-es, por favor
[07:30] <lokylla> quien eres?
[07:30] <mae> woohoo breezy's out
[07:30] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: it's not '/etc/fstab/', it's '/etc/fstab' -- it's a file, not a directory
[07:30] <Ruudi> VincentMX me thinking if it's possible at all, yellowdog didn't do it, no point to install otherwize
[07:30] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: open a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> terminal) and type 'cat /etc/fstab'
[07:30] <malverian[work] > Wow.. the update servers are so horrible right now :-P
[07:30] <noodle> nalioth: multiverse is dead for me
[07:31] <ericz> it's taken me like an hour, 30 min to get kde packages, and its only 75% done... ubuntu must be popular :P
[07:31] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool,terminal says no such file or directory
[07:31] <nalioth> noodle: i'm sure it is, being breezy is causing server slowdowns across the board
[07:31] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: hmm
[07:31] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: this is not good
[07:31] <noodle> nalioth: i will try again in the morning thx
[07:31] <mickskyvitch> ah got it one moment
[07:31] <pdlnhrd> i just installed the new version of ubuntu (amd64)  and when i look at the system monitor it shows one cpu, but before when i looked at it it would show two, i have an emt64 dual core chip.. is it necessary to install an smtp kernel?
[07:31] <VincentMX> Ruudi, has a point. but some parts of MacOSX are opensource. the fanspeed controller maybe ass well
[07:32] <pdlnhrd> smp kernel
[07:32] <nalioth> pdlnhrd: if you dont have an smp kernel, then yes
[07:32] <pdlnhrd> nalioth: thanks.
[07:32] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool, here you are   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3091    ty for your patience
[07:32] <pdlnhrd> also, is there a package for configuring dual monitors?
[07:33] <Ruudi> well i wonder it would be done then VincentMX just not a programmer by myself...maybe i should just get Tiger :) but well allways liked linux as well
[07:33] <nalioth> HappyFool: you gonna edit for mickskyvitch ?
[07:34] <HappyFool> nalioth: i was going to tell him to add umask=0000
[07:34] <VincentMX> Ruudi, ok. maybe you could partition your Hardrive and put MacOSX one one partition and Ubuntu/edubuntu/kubuntu on the other
[07:34] <nalioth> Ruudi: the installer can resize your OSX partition painlessly
[07:34] <Ruudi> yeah i got yellowdog installed that way...but no thermal control is too noizy to use...
[07:34] <nalioth> Ruudi: ah a new imac
[07:34] <Ruudi> g5 yes
[07:35] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: do you have a memory stick plugged into the computer? or a sata disk?
[07:35] <Ruudi> not the newest but flatone :)
[07:35] <nalioth> Ruudi: you are out of luck until dapper drake
[07:35] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool,I have a USB drive sda1
[07:35] <VincentMX> Ruudi, the half bold? it rocks
[07:35] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: ok, i'm going to leave that alone; i'm not sure it should be in /etc/fstab
[07:36] <stjepan> hello
[07:36] <Ruudi> hmm VincentMX not sure half or not, but the one that got no built in cam jet :)
[07:36] <nalioth> Ruudi: breezy does not support the new flat imacs
[07:36] <stjepan> I am installing pyFLTK from source. There are some errors with opengl. How to install opengl???
[07:36] <VincentMX> ah that one. the early iMac G5
[07:36] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool,okay any help is appreciated
[07:37] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3092
[07:37] <Ruudi> anyway with ome ram OS X can do :) just wanted to check out freeware music soft on linux...
[07:37] <jessid_> Hello
[07:37] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: i recommend removing the /dev/sda1 line too -- i presume you ran winmac_fstab while the stick was plugged in?
[07:37] <ubuntuguy> anyone using citrix metaframe?
[07:37] <VincentMX> Ruudi, ok
[07:37] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool Yes I did
[07:37] <Mrdini> probably something really simple, but - how the hell do I upgrade from a RC to ubuntu 5.10?
[07:37] <kokoko1> hi
[07:38] <nalioth> Mrdini: using ubuntu now?
[07:38] <Mrdini> nall, yeah
[07:38] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: it probably detects all ntfs/fat partitions, so it also added the mem stick -- but the mem stick should be automatically handled by ubuntu
[07:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mrdini about upgrade2breezy
[07:38] <sally_> is anyone noticing that the gnome and firefox ui lags a bit every once in a while (once a minute or so)?  like, I go to the System menu, scroll over preferences on the way to administration but once the mouse is on administration, the preferences submenu stays up for 3/4 of a second or so... firefox does similar things, has anyone noticed these?
[07:38] <jessid_> hello to everybody... I want to ask something: how can i put hard disk in low consumption mode in ubuntu? i used to do that in suse with kpowersave but now i dont know how to do it. thanks
[07:39] <sally_> I'm on breezy
[07:39] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool,okay I'm going to edit that now
[07:39] <nalioth> jessid_: is kpowersave not available here?
[07:39] <Mrdini> nalloth, ah ta - knew it was something simple.... for some reason I couldn't find that page
[07:40] <stjepan> Is there opengl package for ubuntu???
[07:40] <Eppu> jessid_: hdparm -B option is one way
[07:40] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool sorry to be a pain I thoughT i knew how to edit can you post the command please
[07:41] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: yeah, sure
[07:41] <joss> lut
[07:41] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' should work
[07:41] <jessid_> nalioth i havent found it yet+
[07:41] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: after that, do 'sudo mount -a -o remount' -- should change the mount settings
[07:41] <[A] ndy80> I'm using ubuntu breezy. I cannot install skype because it requires libqt3c102-mt. But this package is obsolete in ubuntu and there is libqt3-mt that is not ok for skype. How can I fix this? Thanks
[07:41] <nemo__> Hi, I wonder if someone could help me. I have a DEB file "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" how do I install it
[07:42] <jessid_> Eppu is there any app that I can use?
[07:42] <skullzBOFH> hi
[07:42] <ericz> nemo_: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:42] <Eppu> jessid_: install hdparm and edit /etc/hdparm.conf. There is an apm option you can set. Lower value means more agressive power management
[07:42] <sergey> hello, can anybody help me with burning an iso image to a cd?
[07:43] <sergey> i don't know where to start and what program to use
[07:43] <nemo__> Thank you ericz
[07:43] <jessid_> Eppu thanks a lot...i'll see it right now
[07:43] <HappyFool> sergey: can you find the iso using the file manager (i.e., nautilus)
[07:43] <djm62> sergey: right click on the icon
[07:43] <shaargaraepa> sergey, use k3b
[07:43] <sergey> yeah, sure
[07:43] <shaargaraepa> synaptic -> search k3b
[07:44] <djm62> sergey: and nautilus has a menu item for burning
[07:44] <HappyFool> sergey: then do what djm62 said
[07:44] <sergey> kb is already in the distribution or shoud i install it,?
[07:44] <randomc0de> ok, so random question - I installed the gcc-4.0 package, wrote a little test c program, and gcc is telling me it can't find stdlib.h or stdio.h... and "find stdlib.h" or "find stdio.h" give nothing
[07:44] <sergey> tnx, guys. I'll try this
[07:44] <djm62> which reminds me, I grabbed the 64bit livecd to show ma bro
[07:44] <sergey> try to locate your gcc package to see if there are availble
[07:44] <sally_> randomc0de, install libc6-dev
[07:44] <sergey> do locate gcc
[07:45] <sergey> usually all libraries are in /usr/include
[07:45] <sunshine> help please i#ve mess up my computer i sudo gedit this file /lib/lsb/init-functions now my computer is stuck at the begining before log in it say i have to repair it manually and rebooot how do i take off the changes i made to this file
[07:45] <HappyFool> well, the header files are in /usr/include
[07:45] <nalioth> randomc0de: install "build-essential"
[07:46] <sunshine> it said it a synathax error
[07:46] <nalioth> randomc0de: this will get you a bunch of programs to allow you to compile things
[07:46] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool thanks for all your help but I am still getting 'folder contents cannot be displayed'
[07:46] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: hrm
[07:46] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: did you run 'sudo mount -a -o remount' ?
[07:46] <sunshine> nalioth you know lots can u help
[07:46] <sunshine> me
[07:46] <randomc0de> nalioth, I figured it out, it was libc6-dev
[07:46] <mickskyvitch> happy fool,yes I did
[07:46] <nightswim> does gdm somehow cache an xorg.conf?
[07:46] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: ok, can you please paste the output of mount to the pastebin again?
[07:47] <randomc0de> sally, thanks... I find it hard to believe that c, java, and c++ programming isn't automatically installed
[07:48] <sunshine> does anyone know how to edit this file /lib/lsb/init-functions from the before the login
[07:48] <thespiritoftal> is today a good time to upgrade ubuntu to the new distro?
[07:48] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool, here you are   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3093
[07:48] <ericz> ubuntus servers are so slow :( it's taking hours to install kde
[07:48] <randomc0de> thespiritoftal, I suggest downloading and burning the cd's to do it, using the apt repositories takes ages
[07:48] <nalioth> sunshine: boot into rescue mode
[07:48] <sunshine> how do i do that
[07:49] <ui> how do i install jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin in breezy?
[07:49] <Mrdini> ericz, use mirrors
[07:49] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: did you add the ',umask=0000' lines to the /dev/hda1 and so on lines in /etc/fstab ?
[07:49] <thespiritoftal> is breezy really much more better than hoary?
[07:49] <hmrocha> hello
[07:49] <mickskyvitch> yes I just checked and they are there HappyFool
[07:49] <nalioth> ui: you can get a java deb for breeze (much easier)
[07:49] <ericz> mrdini, i would if i knew any, and its at like 75% now anyway... after 2 hrs
[07:49] <hmrocha> i'm having a big trouble with two applications
[07:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ui about javadeb
[07:49] <hmrocha> wavesurfer and transcriber
[07:49] <sunshine> when i press esc it only give me normal and recovery when i press recorvery it just takes me back to where it want me to manually repair the root system
[07:49] <nalioth> thespiritoftal: progress is wonderful
[07:49] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: ok, run 'sudo umount /dev/hda1' and 'sudo mount /dev/hda1'
[07:49] <hmrocha> both hang
[07:50] <ui> thanks alot nalioth  :D
[07:50] <hmrocha> stracing wavesurfer shows that it hangs opening /dev/dsp
[07:50] <nalioth> sunshine: get an Ubuntu livecd
[07:50] <sunshine> i'm on a ubuntu live cd
[07:50] <sunshine> that how i access this
[07:50] <nalioth> sunshine: then mount your HD and find the script you knackered and fix it
[07:51] <cjhcjhcjh> Newbie; which apt-get should I do to get loads of foxy chicks to come running to my door?
[07:51] <sunshine> how do i mount my hd
[07:51] <ivanox> If I have a movie that I would like to burn and watch on dvd, then which software would be most useful to me?
[07:51] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool thank you so much mission accomplished
[07:51] <bpf> Ng, you still here? i followed that howto on vmware with breezy and it gives an error when trying to power on the VM. any ideas?
[07:51] <HappyFool> mickskyvitch: ok, cool
[07:51] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine, cd /mnt    mkdir fred   mount fred   /dev/hda1   or 2 or 3 or something
[07:52] <stjepan> I live in Croatia and I want free Ubuntu CDs. If I request free CDs from shipit.ubuntu.com, will I have to pay anything, because CDs won't be sent from Croatia?
[07:52] <nalioth> stjepan: free shipping for free cds
[07:53] <cheitozz> hello
[07:53] <Trinitrogen> Help, apt-get install wpasupplicant isn't working for me, its saying it can't find the package :(
[07:53] <cjhcjhcjh> stjepan, they will be posted with postage paid to your country; you might have to pay import tax, ubuntu can do nothing about that...if its a small quantity, your customs may not notice it
[07:53] <thespiritoftal> stjepan: no you don't ubuntu have shipped me 10 CDs over to Turkey without wanting a penny
[07:53] <mickskyvitch> HappyFool you have rescued so much data for me.This place and the whole community is fantastic thank you asll
[07:53] <cheitozz> what amule version uses ubuntu 5.10?
[07:54] <vengeful_> trinit, have you added the other respositries?
[07:54] <sunshine> it said it cant find mnt sunshine in etc fcstab or etc/mtab or am i meant to put in fred
[07:54] <Trinitrogen> vengeful_ : I don't think so, I wasn't sure how to add to the sources.list
[07:54] <intelikey> Trinitrogen apt-cache search wpasupplicant
[07:54] <LasseL> cheitozz, 2..03
[07:54] <cheitozz> not have kademlia?
[07:55] <HappyFool> erk. 30 hours to breezy iso finish downloading... *sigh*
[07:55] <stjepan> but what about postage??????
[07:55] <Trinitrogen> intelikey doesn't return anything
[07:55] <sunshine> hda1
[07:55] <sergey> another simple question, i can't play mp3 files with totem it says There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[07:55] <nalioth> stjepan: they will be shipped free to you
[07:55] <intelikey> Trinitrogen then it is not in your sources.
[07:55] <stjepan> I think Ubuntu will be non-free one day.... :((((((((
[07:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sergey about mp3
[07:55] <sunshine> it said it cant find mnt sunshine in etc fcstab or etc/mtab or am i meant to put in fred
[07:56] <stjepan> nalioth: TOTALLY free?
[07:56] <Trinitrogen> intelikey, what sources should I add
[07:56] <HappyFool> stjepan: why do you think that?
[07:56] <nalioth> stjepan:  i dont. read mark shuttlesworths wiki page
[07:56] <nalioth> stjepan: yes TOTALLY
[07:56] <El_Che> stjepan: yep
[07:56] <intelikey> Trinitrogen universe & multiverse     i think.
[07:56] <Fred> sunshine: stop highlighting me! :P
[07:56] <darknature> hmm anyone here has falcons eye
[07:57] <darknature> and having trouble when trying to load it
[07:57] <sunshine> fred im sorry i think nalioth was usinig u for example to help me
[07:57] <stjepan> nalioth: are you sure? Ubuntu will always be non-commercial?
[07:57] <sergey> it's not that important mp3 but I always used *nux as server i know little about multimedia stuff, an d i never managed to have sound and video at the same time :s
[07:57] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine, sorry, I got it the wrong way round. mount /dev/hda? /mnt/dirname   where ? is the device no, and dirname is something you made up but created...
[07:57] <vengeful_> its in universe
[07:57] <stjepan> maybe there will be commercial and free ubuntu edition.....
[07:57] <Fred> sunshine: lol ok, d/w ;-)
[07:58] <nalioth> stjepan: mark shuttlesworth has written on his wiki that ubuntu will always be free
[07:58] <Buddha|> Does anyone here use GNUstep?
[07:58] <cjhcjhcjh> wai
[07:58] <Faw_> anyone good with PAM authentication here? Need some help.
[07:58] <cjhcjhcjh> ...can evolution download hotmail?
[07:58] <intelikey> sunshine  the mount command is "mount [options]  <device_node> <mount_point> "
[07:58] <Xenguy> SOLVED: now loading 'xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap' via a shell script, using GNOMES's 'Startup Programs' dialogue.
[07:59] <jXpx> its a steam  version avialable 4 linux?
[07:59] <stjepan> how much will I wait CDs?
[07:59] <LasseL> Xenguy, that's what I do too
[08:00] <Trinitrogen> What command do I use to after I change my sources.list?
[08:00] <sunshine> cjhcjhcjh it said when i put in mount /dev/hda cant find dev hda or etc mtab
[08:00] <LasseL> Trinitrogen, synaptic :)
[08:00] <sunshine> what do i do before that
[08:00] <nalioth> Trinitrogen: apt-get update
[08:00] <djm62> Trinitrogen: aptitude update, if you're inclined to cli
[08:00] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine, /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 or whatever number it is
[08:00] <jXpx> its a steam  version avialable 4 linux?
[08:00] <nalioth> sunshine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[08:00] <djm62> nalioth: is apt-get or aptitude preferred? (I thought aptitude did smarter things with unused packages)
[08:01] <stjepan> how many CDs should I request? maximum??? :D
[08:01] <nalioth> jXpx: please dont repeat so often
[08:01] <Tikro> Hello! Is it possible to resize ext3 partitions with qtparted?
[08:01] <jXpx> nalioth fuck u
[08:01] <ericz> how can i play .wma files from rhythmbox? or is that possible?
[08:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jXpx about conduct
[08:01] <intelikey> sunshine what exactly are you trying to do ?    looks like maybe you are trying to access an hd from a live cd or something ?
[08:01] <lsuactiafner> stjepan : if you give all the cds to your friends
[08:02] <flora> what is the easiest way to clone one hard disk to another of different size?
[08:02] <djm62> stjepan: but if you can burn CDs, you could still give them to your friends
[08:02] <djm62> flora: different HW devices? you could use cp with the right switches
[08:03] <adom> makedir?
[08:03] <flora> djm62: yes two different hard disks, one has our "testing" config and the other hard disk will go into our production machine and i need to copy everything from testing over to it and be able to boot from it.
[08:03] <lsuactiafner> flora : well, not a good idea really, but you could try copying all your data over and then running grub to write a master boot record to it, but it wont be easy
[08:03] <flora> lsuactiafner: i'm looking for the easy way :)
[08:04] <HappyFool> adom: we need a bit of context ;)
[08:04] <intelikey> mkdir
[08:04] <nightswim> !rar
[08:04] <ubotu> nightswim: Are you on ritalin?
[08:04] <nightswim> no
[08:04] <nightswim> I want to install rar
[08:04] <lsuactiafner> flora : a new install would be better, just copy /home to the new disk..
[08:04] <nightswim> that's all
[08:04] <ivar> q: how do I install a .pcf font in breezy ?
[08:04] <cjhcjhcjh> flora...I was keeping quiet...but "norton ghost" would work, no prob...but under win
[08:04] <adom> happyfool what is the terminal command for creating a directory :)
[08:04] <flora> lsuactiafner: what about all the libs, /etc/configs, mysql dbs, etc.
[08:04] <flora> cjhcjhcjh: ew ;)
[08:04] <nalioth> adom: mkdir
[08:04] <cjhcjhcjh> true story
[08:04] <adom> kewl
[08:05] <trevis> i cant seem to find the source of my kernel, so i cant install nvidia drivers
[08:05] <HappyFool> where i can i find out more about the ubuntu server edition cd ?
[08:05] <Faw_> I need to authenticate linux against using Kerberos, everything except login. There will only be one account in Linux, the other users will have no account. Anyone here know how to do it with PAM?
[08:05] <HappyFool> !tell trevis about nvidia
[08:05] <intelikey> adom if it is not in your home dir or a sub of that you will have to prepend sudo
[08:05] <lsuactiafner> flora : make a new install then, with a master boot record unless you want to read up on lilo and grub and live cds, but i would make a new install, then copy everything over and overwrite everything but /etc/grub-and-lilo-related and /boot
[08:06] <sally_> !tell sally_ about nvidia
[08:06] <Neerlan_Amorim> the new Ubuntu breezy is good.... very good
[08:06] <cjhcjhcjh> ...or ghost it...
[08:06] <xethorn> hello les gens
[08:06] <xethorn> hi people ;)
[08:07] <djm62> flora: cp, then chroot and grub-install
[08:07] <lsuactiafner> flora : but make sure all the versions are compatible..
[08:07] <lsuactiafner> flora : you dont want a squid 1.0 conf and a squid 1000.2 mixing.. something like that
[08:07] <xethorn> I need some help : I search the execute function on the menu (I just finish to install Ubuntu Breezy)
[08:07] <djm62> lsuactiafner: or am I missing something obvious there?
[08:07] <lsuactiafner> flora : think djm62 has a good point
[08:08] <xethorn> and I didin't find it
[08:08] <tarek> hello, i have juste discovered that i was writing text file encoded in utf8 and i need iso8859 : I have a question abuot that: how can i tell if a text file is utf8 or iso8859 ? second, how can i convert them and make ubutun do iso8859 by default
[08:08] <intelikey> djm62 without editing /boot/grub/menu.lst   ?
[08:08] <kaschei> Can someone help me get xorg working again, after hoary->breezy dist-upgrade? details here http://pastebin.com/393623
[08:08] <lsuactiafner> not that sure about chroot and the master boot record but i think thats a very good idea, better than mine
[08:08] <cjhcjhcjh> xethorn, what do you want? Accessories, Terminal?
[08:08] <thespiritoftal> how can i contribute to ubuntu?
[08:08] <lsuactiafner> you will need to edit grub
[08:08] <miksu> damn managed to mess up my users. what to do?
[08:08] <ericz> how can i play wma files in rhythmbox?
[08:08] <flora> hmmm ok so i can't just clone the contents of one disk to another?
[08:08] <xethorn> no, I just want to have the execute function, not the terminal, in which you can select one program
[08:09] <djm62> flora: you can, but there's tricky stuff with getting it to boot
[08:09] <trevis> i just followed that nvida driver install tutorial, but i get an error: "no screens found"
[08:09] <miksu> cannot edit etc/group etc/passwd or use the users tool
[08:09] <thespiritoftal> yup
[08:09] <thespiritoftal> I love ubuntu
[08:09] <lsuactiafner> flora : you can, but you need to know more about linux than most ppl, i will be able to do it after a bit of trouble and thinking.
[08:09] <miksu> ok now i AM the root
[08:09] <djm62> flora: it might be hdc now, but it'll be hda in the real machine, and you need to configure grub to find the kernel on hda before you put it in
[08:09] <miksu> stupid me
[08:09] <trevis> tell me about nvidia
[08:10] <trevis> tell trevis about nvidia
[08:10] <intelikey> !
[08:10] <ubotu> Wish i knew, intelikey
[08:10] <HappyFool> trevis: use !
[08:10] <VincentMX> thespiritoftal, who doesn't?
[08:10] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[08:10] <trevis> !tell trevis about nvidia
[08:10] <trevis> thanks
[08:10] <flora> djm62: gotcha... thanks for the help
[08:10] <intelikey> trevis /msg ubotu blah   works too
[08:11] <thespiritoftal> I wonder if eating ubuntu CDs may cure cancer
[08:11] <kaschei> Can someone help me get xorg working again, after hoary->breezy dist-upgrade and using new xorg-fglrx-driver package? details here http://pastebin.com/393623
[08:11] <alsyr> hi everybody. i am new to ubuntu. I am having difficulty in running ubuntu on a emachines desktop t6412. ubuntu completely freezez on the splash screen. anybody had the same problem ? if so how did you solve it ?
[08:11] <VincentMX> thespiritoftal, i wouldn't try it
[08:11] <VincentMX> :D
[08:11] <nalioth> thespiritoftal: eat 57kg of them at once, and you'll be cured of everything
[08:11] <thespiritoftal> hehe
[08:11] <thespiritoftal> :)
[08:11] <ericz> don't discourage him vincentmx
[08:12] <intelikey> kaschei "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[08:12] <VincentMX> ericz, ok
[08:12] <thespiritoftal> ok ship 57 kgs of ubuntu cds over here
[08:12] <thespiritoftal> I'll eat
[08:12] <VincentMX> go thespiritoftal!
[08:12] <thespiritoftal> :D
[08:12] <kaschei> intelikey I have already tried that, what non-default options would you suggest I change?
[08:12] <ericz> if you do it thespiritoftal, tape it
[08:12] <cjhcjhcjh> flora http://linuxgazette.net/issue89/ward.html
[08:12] <djm62> or construct an archimedes death ray mirror
[08:12] <VincentMX> yeah
[08:12] <andreas_> I have installed 5.10 and now I need some sources to install mplayer, xine, mc, java and stuff. Where can I find more apt-get sources for 5.10
[08:12] <LasseL> kaschei, what happens?
[08:12] <Trinitrogen> after apt-get update I get the error "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: the following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Arvie Automatic Signige Key
[08:12] <intelikey> expert mode settings
[08:12] <kaschei> when I start?  It goes through boot process then screen blanks
[08:13] <lsuactiafner> andreas_ : i cant cope without mc and mplayer...
[08:13] <andreas_> best there is
[08:13] <MachineScrew> any one know about netboot installs
[08:13] <MachineScrew> i am having a problem with tftp
[08:13] <Sonderblade> how do you do to set xorg's dpi to 96x96?
[08:13] <intelikey> kaschei did you wait on it for about ten minutes ?
[08:13] <Raynheks> i have an acer 1691, new breezy installation, broadcom BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet card... i can see it.. activate it's eth1 interface but then i can get an IP address from the LAN... any help? ;_;
[08:13] <ScatterBrain> Is there a way that I can pull packages from a different source than the US archives?
[08:13] <siucdude> question i updated my windows version and now my ubuntu is gone?
[08:13] <kaschei> intelikey Not quite so long no
[08:14] <djm62> Raynheks: you need DHCP?
[08:14] <sunshine> nalioth i got kick out can u tell me what that website is again please.....
[08:14] <intelikey> upgrade can take a few minutes.
[08:14] <Raynheks> hmm i choose that in the network settings
[08:14] <Dreamglider> MachineScrew i installed ubuntu 5.04 from net and upgraded to the final 5.10 release
[08:14] <miksu> 'pam authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info' when attempting to open as root. what to do? i have added myself to the root group in etc/passwd
[08:14] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: memtest has been running for 14 hours now and no errors are reported
[08:14] <djm62> siucdude: windows overwrites the bootloader...can you get a liveCD on and chroot to do a grub-install?
[08:14] <MachineScrew> Dreamglider: i am havin problems with tftp
[08:15] <kaschei> intelikey is there any way to take care of the main part of that when my tty is working?
[08:15] <Dreamglider> MachineScrew,  Hang on i'll look up the url
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, what speed is your CPU
[08:15] <MachineScrew> Dreamglider: its timing out on my client
[08:15] <Buddha|> Are there any additional repositories available for Ubuntu?
[08:15] <nalioth> sunshine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[08:15] <kaschei> Ohhhh no
[08:15] <MachineScrew> Dreamglider: I have been to the sites
[08:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Buddha| about sources
[08:15] <btdown> Having problems with a gpg error on seveas. Any idea how to fix ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3094
[08:15] <siucdude> djm62: i followed some insturctions on rescue from cd but i get error gtk-warning
[08:16] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: 2,189 Mz
[08:16] <djm62> siucdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[08:16] <xethorn> nobody can help me ?
[08:16] <djm62> siucdude: those instructions?
[08:16] <kaschei> intelikey It seems to work, although very oddly, now that I changed "use kernel framebuffer" to enable
[08:16] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: it is an athlon 64
[08:16] <Dreamglider> MachineScrew, did you download five disks and boot from them ?
[08:16] <chicken-man> Is there any chat program that can connect to msn, based in terminal mode ?
[08:16] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, what video card are you using?
[08:16] <siucdude> djm62:  no these http://ubuntuguide.org/#gainrootinstallcd and the section on install windows after
[08:16] <intelikey> kaschei go back and play with the rez and refresh some more.
[08:17] <MachineScrew> Dreamglider: no my client dosn't have a floppy its booting from the eth0
[08:17] <Raynheks> djm62: should i only need the dhcp3-client and common?
[08:17] <MachineScrew> this laptop is acting as the server
[08:17] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: ati radeon xpress 200
[08:17] <kaschei> intelikey Thank you for your help
[08:17] <tarek> how to guess the encoding of a text file ? is there any tool
[08:17] <nalioth> siucdude: ubuntuguide is not a good guide
[08:17] <djm62> Raynheks: I think so
[08:17] <MachineScrew> I am connected through a router
[08:17] <nalioth> siucdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[08:17] <btdown> ubuntuguide is better than that lame wiki they have up
[08:17] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, what video driver are you using right now?
[08:18] <djm62> siucdude: yeah, ubuntuguide isn't recommended, the instructions on the wiki look pretty good to me
[08:18] <Dreamglider> MachineScrew, Oh i used the floppys to boot the pc the rest was like a normal CD install
[08:18] <starscalling> crap !_!
[08:18] <starscalling> hey
[08:18] <chicken-man> Is there any chat program that can connect to msn, without using X ?
[08:18] <starscalling> i installed kbuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: should i stop memtest ? ati, from what i can read on xorg.conf
[08:18] <siucdude> everyone:  how do i get a live cd, i only have the original
[08:18] <djm62> siucdude: and once you've done the chroot command, you want to do /sbin/grub-install
[08:18] <intelikey> tarek grep -m1 -ie"[a-z] " filename   and look for the id tag
[08:18] <MachineScrew> ya I should have said PXE boot install
[08:18] <nalioth> chicken-man: centericq
[08:18] <starscalling> now when i try to open url's i get some kde error///
[08:18] <jessid_> Eppu I have already installed hdparm. i used -B 10 but i dont know if i have to do that every time i start the system or that data is kept somewhere
[08:18] <djm62> then type reboot or shutdown -are now
[08:18] <starscalling> i tried removing those packages..
[08:19] <starscalling> but it doesnt look like its doing me any good..
[08:19] <ColonelKernel> alsyr, yeah you should be safe to stop memtest - I would redo my xorg.conf and use the vesa driver until I get the ati driver from ati installed
[08:19] <andreas_> where can I find apt-get sources for 5.10?
[08:19] <nalioth> andreas_: releases.ubuntu.com/5.10
[08:19] <siucdude> djm62: can this be done with regural cd i only have the original
[08:19] <MachineScrew> can any one hellp me with a PXE boot install
[08:20] <starscalling> there was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE: the message returned by the system was:
[08:20] <djm62> siucdude: um....not sure
[08:20] <DarkSeid> hello folks
[08:20] <chicken-man> hi
[08:20] <DarkSeid> I am having a problem here with doing a dist-upgrade to breezy
[08:20] <MachineScrew> can any one hellp me with a PXE boot install
[08:20] <jessid_> Eppu or it is beter if i edit directly /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:20] <siucdude> nalioth:  thank you will download live cd
[08:20] <starscalling> could not read the network connection list
[08:20] <DarkSeid> it keeps stopping at the "openoffice.org2-help-en-us" pkg
[08:20] <siucdude> djm62: thank you
[08:21] <DarkSeid> no matter what flags I throw onto apt-get it still dies
[08:21] <starscalling> /home/usernamehere/.dcopserver_usernamehere__0
[08:21] <djm62> siucdude: it's fixable, good luck
[08:21] <djm62> gtg
[08:21] <MachineScrew> can any one hellp me with a PXE boot install
[08:21] <starscalling> what can i do to fully remove those packages?
[08:21] <cjhcjhcjh> help; after install various packages are missing; can I steal a list of apt-gets from somewhere torun and make sure its all there?
[08:21] <DarkSeid> any suggestions?
[08:22] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: the servers are experiencing a /. effect. try again later
[08:22] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, why pxeboot, pls describe what u are trying to do
[08:22] <DarkSeid> Unpacking openoffice.org2-help-en-us (from .../openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb) ...
[08:22] <DarkSeid> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):
[08:22] <DarkSeid>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB', which is also in package openoffice.org2-calc
[08:22] <DarkSeid> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:22] <DarkSeid> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:22] <DarkSeid>  /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb
[08:22] <DarkSeid> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:22] <DarkSeid> sorry for the scroll
[08:22] <sally_> nvidia driver: "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" doesn't remove load GLcore and load dri lines in xorg.conf like the nvidia instructions say to.  why?
[08:22] <DarkSeid> sorry about the flood
[08:22] <DarkSeid> thats the error I get
[08:22] <DarkSeid> and I am stuck there
[08:22] <btdown> Having problems with a gpg error on seveas. Any idea how to fix the key? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3094
[08:22] <nalioth> DarkSeid: pastebin, please
[08:22] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ok look I need to do a PXE install because my cd drive took a crap and the usb thing dosn't work
[08:22] <cjhcjhcjh> naolith no worries; i know; but how can I tell it what to get? It bombed earlier; I have a half-installed version, I have things missing but I don't know what; I want to make sure I have a nicely full version installed
[08:23] <nalioth> btdown: disregard it or get the key from seveas server
[08:23] <DarkSeid> openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb
[08:23] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, do you have the install iso available?
[08:23] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: it knows what to get
[08:23] <cjhcjhcjh> naolith do you have a bootable os?
[08:23] <nalioth> DarkSeid: you can force that pkg if you wish
[08:23] <DarkSeid> --force-yes
[08:23] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: no but i have the breezy netboot
[08:23] <DarkSeid> been there tried that
[08:23] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: bootable what?
[08:23] <btdown> nalioth: Will it hurt anything if I ignore it?
[08:23] <nalioth> DarkSeid: actually you'd use dpkg
[08:24] <nalioth> btdown: not a thing
[08:24] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: that sould alow me to install over the net right ?
[08:24] <cjhcjhcjh> naolith can you boot the machine into any OS?
[08:24] <DarkSeid> ooh ok lemme give it a shot
[08:24] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew,  yeah
[08:24] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: i can boot into OSX or ubuntu
[08:24] <btdown> nalioth: and im not sure how to exactly get the key. Previously there was a pastable command on how to get/add it, but that page it gone. ;(
[08:24] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ok let me tell you where I am at
[08:24] <nalioth> DarkSeid: at the risk of destroying your home, use dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/problem/package
[08:25] <starscalling> nalioth:: when i installed packages kbuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop it installed a whole mess of things... and now my gnome defaults are not working correctly... what can i do to reverse that?
[08:25] <nalioth> btdown: i wouldnt worry about it
[08:25] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: to use vesa, should i just change "ati" to "vesa" in xorg.conf or should i do more that that ? if so, what should i do ?
[08:25] <starscalling> is there a way to tell it to undo say the last 4 apt-get installs ?
[08:25] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: i fallowed the intstructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[08:25] <nalioth> starscalling: i'm not sure why it'd mess up your gnome settings
[08:25] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: minus the iso and that is about it
[08:25] <starscalling> there was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE: the message returned by the system was:
[08:25] <btdown> nalioth: ok thanks! feel much better now.
[08:25] <starscalling> could not read the network connection list
[08:25] <starscalling> /home/usernamehere/.dcopserver_usernamehere__0
[08:26] <foxgamer> Is there an application that can check the intergity of my system? The only program that I am able to use without it crashing on me is this one at the mo :/
[08:26] <starscalling> it seems to have tried to install someting i guess,.....
[08:26] <starscalling> !_!
[08:26] <ubotu> starscalling: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:26] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: the client detects the server then times out on TFTP
[08:26] <starscalling> bread box?
[08:27] <BreezyInCalif> Got a quick question about Breezy LiveCD - does it include both QtParted and tune2fs? I'm writing a how-to on expanding an ext3 partition
[08:27] <nalioth> starscalling: ubotu is a bot. when you preface your text with ! you are asking him to pay attention to you
[08:27] <DarkSeid> well so far so good
[08:27] <DarkSeid> that doesnt mean it'll work though, LOL
[08:27] <starscalling> o oops
[08:27] <cristiano> ate
[08:27] <starscalling> wel hopefully im not messing anything up further... but im installing gnome-desktop
[08:27] <nalioth> BreezyInCalif: gparted and im not sure about tune2fs (one WOULD think it'd be in there to make ext2/3 partitions)
[08:27] <starscalling> perhaps it will reconfigure things when its done back correctly..
[08:28] <piedog> help please raid is making me insane. 1/2 :-)
[08:28] <Aven> hi
[08:28] <nalioth> starscalling: ubuntu-desktop would be better
[08:28] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: you still with me
[08:28] <Aven> ok, I'm trying to get PHP again.. Synaptic says I have the package
[08:28] <BreezyInCalif> ty nalioth - yes, one WOULD think so ... :) I could d/l and check it out, just didn't want to take the time if not necessary
[08:28] <DarkSeid> did anyone test how breezy would do when doing a dist upgrade?
[08:28] <Aven> but this is the erro I keep getting http://pastebin.com/393680
[08:28] <aftertaf> howdy nalioth :)
[08:28] <Aven> *error
[08:28] <piedog> rinstall config of raid failed on breezy
[08:28] <kbrooks> nalioth: tune2fs SHOULD be in, and it doesnt expand a fs
[08:28] <nalioth> DarkSeid: worked fine for me
[08:28] <starscalling> nalioth:: i had that in before... i think it would just say up to date.. but ill apt-get that next then thanx :)
[08:28] <BreezyInCalif> Am I right in thinking gparted is just a front-end for parted?
[08:28] <nalioth> aftertaf: howdy
[08:29] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, sorry I dont know enough to help with that. I would install another way...e.g. boot disk or cd if possible...failing that, install freeDos and ue loadlin
[08:29] <starscalling> btw sup BreezyInCalif _o/
[08:29] <nalioth> BreezyInCalif: correct
[08:29] <BreezyInCalif> howdy starscalling :)
[08:29] <DarkSeid> I have a bare bones stock Hoary install and just wanted a breezy upgrade
[08:29] <cjhcjhcjh> s/ue/use/   and all IMHO
[08:29] <aftertaf> nalioth: breezy +1 panic sorting itself out?
[08:29] <DarkSeid> and its blowing up everywhere
[08:29] <starscalling> yeah ok
[08:29] <nalioth> aftertaf: very slowly
[08:29] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: look i don't have floppy drive
[08:29] <piedog> and mdadm is failing with busy devices and other funness
[08:29] <starscalling> i am going to try a log out and in of gnome
[08:29] <aftertaf> i gathered that today at work
[08:29] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks - yah, tune2fs doesn't change partitions, but you would need it to change ext3 fs to ext2 fs; parted doesn't operate happily on ext3 fs
[08:29] <Aven> so, can anyone help?
[08:29] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, I know...hence loadlin
[08:29] <MachineScrew> nor do I have a cdrom drive
[08:30] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, I know...can you get to a command prompt under DOS?
[08:30] <starscalling> was there not some little proggie to get gnome // ubuntu to remember currently running programs for startups?
[08:30] <kbrooks> BreezyInCalif: i tried gparted
[08:30] <ubuntuguy> anyone know how I can get firefox to tell me which plug-ins it has installed?
[08:30] <kbrooks> and it worked
[08:30] <kbrooks> perfectly
[08:30] <El_Che> starscalling: just close your session (log out) and choose to save
[08:30] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: my cddrive failed while installing ubuntu
[08:30] <intelikey> well aftertaf that would be a cool job for the first three days....... ;/
[08:31] <jackster> i got a little prob w breezy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75944
[08:31] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: i have a grub error
[08:31] <aftertaf> yeah intelikey totally :)
[08:31] <jackster> anyone got any hints?
[08:31] <annex> ubuntuguy: got to this address in firefox: about:plugins
[08:31] <nalioth> Aven: when you upgrade/install to your box, you need to use sudo
[08:31] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, so you can only network boot?>
[08:31] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: I have also tried swaping hds but this laptop is too old
[08:31] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ya look like it
[08:31] <kbrooks> BreezyInCalif: can you read what i say?
[08:31] <ubuntuguy> annex: thank you
[08:32] <aftertaf> jackster: are you in console now?
[08:32] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks - yes - just slow typing
[08:32] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: I can't boot from usb eather
[08:32] <jackster> no, gnome-failsafe, aftertaf
[08:32] <Jedrick> what's the command in terminal to see the diskspace of your disk?
[08:32] <annex> no problem
[08:32] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks - tried gparted for what, specifically? If I can skip the tune2fs steps (to remove and restore the journaling for ext3) that would simplify things
[08:32] <aftertaf> jackster: retype this . sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:32] <nalioth> Jedrick: du -h
[08:32] <manuelmjsf1> hello
[08:32] <Jedrick> k thnx
[08:32] <aftertaf> jackster: pastebin the error
[08:32] <jackster> ok
[08:32] <kbrooks> BreezyInCalif: creating a partition
[08:32] <kbrooks> two specifically
[08:32] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks - OK, cool
[08:32] <kbrooks> and then i resized it
[08:32] <DarkSeid> well it's still chewing through the unpacking process
[08:32] <rikai> err, i'm having a very very minor problem with breezy at the moment.
[08:32] <intelikey> oh hd boot error MachineScrew ?
[08:33] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks - ext3?
[08:33] <kbrooks> BreezyInCalif: iirc yes
[08:33] <kbrooks> let me check
[08:33] <foxgamer> Is anyone else having problems running their programs?
[08:33] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: funny this laptop is a 266MHz P2 and I am trying to install on a P4 2.0 GHz
[08:33] <MachineScrew> intelikey: yes
[08:33] <intelikey> tell me what ya got, i'll see what i can come up with.
[08:33] <MachineScrew> intelikey: you know any thing about PXE Netboot installs
[08:33] <kbrooks> yes
[08:33] <rikai> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:33] <rikai>  <-- when using synaptic/apt with my fresh breezy install, it's throwing out this error at me... any tips?
[08:33] <Jedrick> dude i mean free space on the disk
[08:33] <kbrooks> its ext3
[08:33] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, lol....so do did you enable tftp and put some bootable image there?
[08:34] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks - My experience with QtParted - which is also just a front-end for parted - was that resizing ext3 was not possible; I had to use tune2fs to convert the ext3 fs to ext2, tnen resize, then use tune2fs again to convert back to ext3
[08:34] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ya
[08:34] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, and restart tftpd?
[08:34] <nalioth> rikai: disregard. the servers are hammered atm, and it will sort itself out
[08:34] <MachineScrew> intelikey: work with cjhcjhcjh
[08:34] <rikai> nalioth, i figured it'd be something of that sort, just wanted to make sure, thanks.
[08:35] <MachineScrew> both intelikey and cjhcjhcjh help me please get me off of this pice of shit laptop and back on mine
[08:35] <kbrooks> BreezyInCalif: gparted worked for me. gparted uses all tools avail
[08:35] <aftertaf> jackster: same goes here, if you get gpg errors with update, disregard ....
[08:35] <nalioth> kbrooks: qtparted uses ntfsprogs, which gparted does not
[08:35] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ya restarted the whole damned computer justs for shits and giggles
[08:35] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, how far does the netboot get at the moment? does it get an ip address?
[08:36] <intelikey> PXE Netboot out of my league, but hd boot we should be able to do something with.   are you duel booting or what ?
[08:36] <jackster> aftertaf, so wot do i do to get normal gnome back?
[08:36] <MachineScrew> intelikey: no os what so ever
[08:36] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ya I get an IP
[08:36] <MachineScrew> intelikey: no flp no usb
[08:37] <MachineScrew> intelikey: only eth
[08:37] <MachineScrew> intelikey: no cdrom eather
[08:37] <jackster> ???
[08:37] <MachineScrew> intelikey: problem with tftp server i think
[08:38] <DarkSeid> ok the unpacking is done and now the upgrade is starting
[08:38] <aftertaf> jackster: run the command i said and report the error.
[08:38] <starscalling> eh
[08:38] <starscalling> ok
[08:38] <starscalling> so i definately messed something up
[08:38] <DarkSeid> holding breath / crossing fingers
[08:38] <starscalling> i cant even start a session
[08:38] <jackster> aftertaf: that was the error i got
[08:38] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks and nalioth - just did a quick look-see on gparted; it looks as if it uses different back-end tools than QtParted and so may be an easier tool for resizing ... maybe I don't need to write this up at all
[08:38] <jackster> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:38] <jackster> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:38] <starscalling> the error i get is .ICEsomething cant be accessed
[08:38] <aftertaf> jackster: it doesnt matter. run dist-upgrade again
[08:38] <jackster> ok
[08:38] <aftertaf> starscalling: rm it!
[08:39] <starscalling> how
[08:39] <aftertaf> starscalling: rm .ICEauthority
[08:39] <intelikey> ok.  it is out of my realmn MachineScrew.  i know nothing about networking and i would be totally unarmed in that battel of witts.    so let me bow out gracefully now.
[08:39] <starscalling> i cannot log into even failsafe gnome aftertaf
[08:39] <nalioth> starscalling: easy. hit ctrl-alt-f3 and log in. rm the .ICEauthority in your home folder and then hit ctrl-alt-f7 and log in
[08:39] <aftertaf> starscalling: CTL+ALT+F1 : console login
[08:39] <aftertaf> or what nalioth said :)
[08:39] <inthenow> ello
[08:40] <aftertaf> nalioth: yeah right.... panic +1 :D
[08:40] <starscalling> ok ill try ti!
[08:41] <inthenow> the fan on my motherboard is dead...the computer seems to be running fine...should action be taken. i tried to clear dust from the fan. The motherboard is nf7-s 2.0
[08:41] <jackster> aftertaf, ran dist-upgrade, didnt get any error, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> you need a fan
[08:41] <zcat[1] > inthenow: get a new fan. They're cheap. CPU's aren't so cheap.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> you mean the fan on the cpu? or a little fan on the mb?
[08:41] <El_Che> inthenow: yes. By a new fan or you may fry your cpu
[08:41] <DarkSeid> nalioth so far so good
[08:41] <aftertaf> jackster: ok. but X doesn't work? WHat is your gfx card?
[08:42] <jackster> nVidia GeForce FX 5900
[08:42] <inthenow> UNDERSTAND. The fan is on the motherboard. It is built into the motherboard. the fan does not run.
[08:42] <jackster> X does work, but only in failsafe
[08:42] <Buddha|> Why is the latest version of Enlightenment 16 not available through apt?
[08:42] <inthenow> Dr_Willis: on the MB
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> hmm. that may not be as bad.
[08:43] <DarkSeid> Buddha I believe it is
[08:43] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. did it ever run? perhaps it's thermostatically controlled and only comes on when things are hot?
[08:43] <DarkSeid> e17 isnt though
[08:43] <intelikey> The fan is on the motherboard. It is built into the motherboard. <---- now is it on it or in it ?
[08:43] <BreezyInCalif> kbrooks & nalioth - smne here the other day suggested I write up the resizing as a how-to for the wiki, but I'm thinking maybe that is unnecessary, if gparted "just works" ... ?
[08:43] <starscalling> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:43] <inthenow> intelikey: in it
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> proberly a chipset fan, or a northbridge/southbridge fan. Hmm.
[08:43] <BreezyInCalif> starscalling - I've seen that reaction somewhere but not in this kind of a channel <g> ... s'up?
[08:43] <starscalling> <3 nalioth && aftertaf
[08:43] <bpf> i got e17 to work, but then forgot why I thought it was so cool and switched back to gnome :)
[08:44] <da_bon_bon> is archive.ubuntu.com still slow ? my max download speed is 27 - 30 kbps .. is it slower than that ?
[08:44] <nalioth> BreezyInCalif: it doesnt 'just work" it doesnt use ntfsprogs. qtparted DOES use ntfsprogs (we can't forget ntfsresize, can we?)
[08:44] <inthenow> intelikey: it can be taken out....this is a emergency thermo fan?
[08:44] <starscalling> slower bpf
[08:44] <starscalling> ~18 avg here
[08:44] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, sorry for delay there, please try http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[08:44] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: still slow
[08:44] <DarkSeid> I use Gnome when no one is lookig then switch to K to ooh and aaah my co workers
[08:44] <bpf> starscalling, what?
[08:44] <zcat[1] > I spent ages trying to 'fix' the fan on a 2nd hand laptop I have; eventually I figured out it'll start up if I leave the keyboard covered for a while and let things heat up. Otherwise the chip runs cool enough that it diesn't need the fan :)
[08:44] <starscalling> speeds
[08:44] <rikai> err, is thre an easy way to restore the default sources.list for breezy?
[08:44] <starscalling> :
[08:44] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: :( seems that i will have to update on sunday, then ..
[08:44] <starscalling> :)
[08:44] <zcat[1] > *doesn't
[08:44] <djjason> Is it possible to grant users anonymous scp access to a folder on my machine?
[08:45] <jackster> ..
[08:45] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: btw, on breezy final, does "About Ubuntu" work ?
[08:45] <jackster> ...
[08:45] <cjhcjhcjh> rikai edit it, the defaults are all there, just commented with #
[08:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rikai about sources
[08:45] <BreezyInCalif> nalioth - point taken, but was specifically interested in ext3 resiz8ing, just b/c it was a problem for me
[08:45] <BreezyInCalif> resizing, even ^
[08:45] <sorush20> can someone explain an error to me please?
[08:45] <tenco> can someone help me with pdflatex and kpdf/xpdf?
[08:45] <nalioth> BreezyInCalif: if you're gonna write something, you have to include something for all folks, right?
[08:45] <intelikey> inthenow i've removed non-working cpu fans before and pointed an extra case fan at the cpu heat sync.  for a "ad hoc" use of course.....
[08:46] <HappyFool> to my mind, "scp" and "anonymous" don't really go together. why not use http or ftp instead?
[08:46] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: not yet
[08:46] <rikai> cjhcjhcjh, err, i accidentally ran the 'Easy Ubuntu' script, which modified sources.list, and i'm not sure which modifications are added by it, and which are the originals.
[08:46] <tenco> pdflatex with koma-script
[08:46] <HappyFool> tenco: what's the problem?
[08:46] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: what ?! not even on fresh or cd-installs ?
[08:46] <rikai> nalioth, thank you, yet again. :P
[08:46] <bpf> what are the major talking points to using e17?
[08:46] <da_bon_bon> rikai: the script doesnt harm.. :)
[08:47] <piedog> HappyFool: scponly does anon scp
[08:47] <tenco> HappyFool: when i make pdf-files with pdflatex (and koma-script package), the fonts are displayed in an ugly way in kpdf and xpdf
[08:47] <jackster> well?#
[08:47] <tenco> HappyFool: e.g. an "z" isnt as tall as an "u"
[08:47] <Buddha|> DarkSeid - The latest version I see in Synaptic is 16.6, but the latest version is 16.8
[08:47] <tenco> *a
[08:47] <sorush20> can somone explain an error to me please?http://rafb.net/paste/results/HBI9ts34.html
[08:47] <budluva> anyone figure out the usplash problem yet?
[08:48] <starscalling> in kde i get "could not start process. Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'system'
[08:48] <starscalling> whats that all about !_!
[08:48] <bpf> Buddha| or starscalling, what is good/different about e17?
[08:48] <tenco> HappyFool: so the text is displayed very bumpy
[08:48] <HappyFool> tenco: hmm. maybe try 'acroread' instead, or ask in #latex for more
[08:48] <tenco> HappyFool: *looks bumpy
[08:48] <starscalling> then same for trash
[08:48] <tenco> HappyFool: ok
[08:48] <HappyFool> tenco: yeah, like ps2pdf sometimes does too
[08:48] <Buddha|> bpf - It's completely redesigned.  I don't like it.  That's why I was asking about E16.
[08:49] <tenco> HappyFool: but i used pdflatex directly. and its printed out with pretty fonts
[08:49] <bpf> Buddha|, what do you like about e16?
[08:49] <nalioth> bpf: join #elive and ask
[08:49] <HappyFool> tenco: i'm not a texnician. but i know these font display issues happen fairly often
[08:49] <Sonderblade> anyone else have problems with getting the msttcorefonts to render correctly in breezy?
[08:49] <Hoxzer> somebody here has configured mytht tv to ubuntu?
[08:49] <chicken-man> any one know a good 2D CAD program that can run without X ?
[08:50] <tenco> HappyFool: so it must have sth to do with the kpdf/xpdf backend, because the cups backend seems to get it right
[08:50] <intelikey> sorush20 hotplug ?    should already be install by default
[08:50] <Buddha|> bpf - it's attractive and uncluttered, easy to configure, and it has nice themes
[08:50] <HappyFool> tenco: the LaTeX faq discusses it too
[08:50] <manulite> hi, wen running ubuntu-live, how do u mount hdds on the machine?
[08:50] <rikai> err, correct me if i'm wrong, but, didnt the mirrormax backports bite the dust?
[08:50] <HappyFool> tenco: well, you might find acroread will display it funny but print it correctly -- that used to happen to me often
[08:50] <chicken-man> manulite: edit fstab
[08:50] <tenco> HappyFool: ok. :) thx for your help, then.
[08:50] <HappyFool> tenco: especially if using non-standard fonts, though this has gotten better lately
[08:51] <manulite> hmm...
[08:51] <cjhcjhcjh> rikai sources is local to your machine...locale and all...you could copy from someone, but everyone is different locale
[08:51] <kiwibird> um..what do i do when i get a bunch of dependency problems during dist-upgrade?
[08:51] <chicken-man> any one know a good 2D CAD program that can run without X ?
[08:51] <sorush20> intelikey: it is install and there is a script in the usb folder for the hotplug, I even restart the hotplug system but no use.. really..
[08:52] <nalioth> kiwibird: if you've recently gotten them, try again later (breezy is causinga server slowdown on a major scale)
[08:52] <aftertaf> Buddha|: DarkSeid  or cvs e17 0.16.999x :)
[08:52] <rikai> cjhcjhcjh, hm?
[08:52] <flagfranca> hello people
[08:52] <kiwibird> hum... i've got the cd though, and it's the same packages all the time..
[08:52] <nalioth> chicken-man: use your resources. http://packages.ubuntu.com or in a terminal "apt-cache search bleh"
[08:52] <nalioth> chicken-man: also sourceforge.net has many programs of all kinds
[08:53] <intelikey> sorush20 so then why are you trying to build from source hotplug ?         sorry i don't understand.
[08:53] <kiwibird> postfix, lsb, mutt, mailx, lsb-foo
[08:53] <chicken-man> hmmm i was hoping i would not have to do any searching LOL :-P
[08:53] <siucdude> nalioth:  one more question
[08:53] <flagfranca> Can anyone help me install skype for linux? All the time its saying theres missing some specific lib file and I simply cannot find the missing lib in the repos.....
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> chicken-man,  may have to track down an old dos-copy of autocad and use dosbox
[08:54] <siucdude> nalioth: i now got my ubuntu working but my windows is missing i checked for how to put it into grubu but it did not work
[08:54] <cjhcjhcjh> rikai you could put these lines in...but you would be getting source from japan...deb http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted...deb-src ftp://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> old-autocad... *shudder*
[08:54] <intelikey> skype isn't that something like bittorrent ?
[08:54] <chicken-man> Dr_Willis my computer wont run DOS-Box too slow :-)
[08:54] <cjhcjhcjh> rikai, change the urls to your locale later...but it will work ;-)
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> chicken-man,  egads...
[08:54] <jrattner1> Where can I read the information about how to get windows NTFS to mount automatically?
[08:54] <nalioth> siucdude: all i can say is edit your menu.lst
[08:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jrattner1 about ntfs
[08:54] <flagfranca> nope....skype is a VoIP application
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> chicken-man,  time to get out the paper and scale and other tools.
[08:54] <sampan> flagfranca  which lib file?
[08:54] <intelikey> !tell flagfranca about skype
[08:55] <Pluk> how can i disable multiple sounds with alsa.. it screws up lipsync in mplayer :(
[08:55] <sampan> !tell sampan about skype
[08:55] <nightswim> !acroread
[08:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, nightswim
[08:55] <nightswim> !acrobat
[08:55] <ubotu> nightswim: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:55] <da_bon_bon> can i install the livecd onto the computer /
[08:55] <da_bon_bon> ?
[08:55] <sorush20> I have a very odd printer called laser jet 1000 and here is a good link for a how to install, I have managed to install on a number ocassions but this is the new error that I am getting... here is the link to the how to,.http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php?title=Adding_an_HP_LaserJet_1000_to_Linux&printable=yes&printable=yes
[08:55] <siucdude> nalioth: i did it with the defult settings that i found in wiki but it did not load
[08:55] <da_bon_bon> lol, nightswim
[08:55] <flagfranca> sampan: let me check
[08:55] <nightswim> the bot never understands me
[08:55] <starscalling> eh
[08:55] <nalioth> siucdude: i have no experience with grub or lilo (i dont own intel boxen)
[08:56] <siucdude> nalioth: never mind it just worked thank you again
[08:57] <flagfranca> sampan:libqt3c102-mt
[08:57] <sorush20> could somone please add this page to the official ubuntu wiki, I'm not registered officially, http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php?title=Adding_an_HP_LaserJet_1000_to_Linux&printable=yes&printable=yes
[08:57] <aftertaf> sorush20: anyone can edit a wiki, get registered ;p
[08:57] <flagfranca> sampan: its said that libqt3-mt in Ubuntu replace it but its not true
[08:57] <kevogod> That is indeed the purpose of a Wiki. :-)
[08:58] <sorush20> aftertaf: I can't do you have to edit with launchpad.com
[08:58] <jrattner1> I'm also having trouble with removable media, when I insert my jump drive  a page in conqueror comes up saying: The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[08:58] <intelikey> aftertaf even non-ubuntu users ?
[08:58] <sampan> flagfranca, yeah -- when i installed skype, i had to make a symlink from a package with the same name (but with a lot of extra 0.0.1 or something at the end) to that -- then skype worked fine
[08:59] <sally_> I installed mozilla-mplayer but when I click on a video link in firefox totem comes up, how  do I make it use mplayer?
[08:59] <graabein> dang! errors occured during dist-upgrade
[08:59] <sampan> flagfranca, i did install the ubuntu (hoary) libqt3-mt package though ... but then still needed to do the symlink
[08:59] <GNAM> ausauaua
[08:59] <GNAM> dist-upgrade
[08:59] <sampan> works perfect though
[09:00] <sorush20> success thanks guys..
[09:00] <nalioth> graabein: the servers are hammered atm, try again later
[09:00] <intelikey> sally_ did you try right click and choose open with     or is that even an option ?
[09:00] <graabein> but this is after ive downloaded stuff... it is the configuration part afterwards?
[09:01] <sbartleylinux> I am trying to get XFce4 and xdm to work on a Breezy Server install.  Installed packages, rebooted.  Get text login.  startx brings up black screen, no gui.  Any ideas?
[09:01] <nalioth> graabein: not all your things may have d/l
[09:01] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: did you install "xubuntu-desktop"  ?
[09:01] <Hoxzer> what is a good C++ compiler for ubuntu?
[09:01] <sally_> intelikey, that's not an option, cnn.com uses javascript to launch their videos
[09:01] <nalioth> Hoxzer: gcc
[09:01] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, nope. will do right now.
[09:01] <calamari> hi
[09:02] <flagfranca> sampan: Im reading a howto here....wow, its almost a saga to make that thing work in Ubuntu ;)
[09:02] <sally_> does totem not suck for everyone else?
[09:02] <intelikey> i see
[09:02] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: g++ ? (install 'build-essential')
[09:02] <ui> breezy is great
[09:02] <bpf> can one install all 3 of gnome, kde and xfce and easily switch between them?
[09:02] <intelikey> bpf yes
[09:02] <graabein> allright... so ill just keep doing apt-get dist-upgrade -f then... cause i got this; unpacking replacement mono-utils... python-wxversion... E: sub-process ... returned an error code
[09:02] <sampan> flagfranca, hehehe -- it wasn't so bad for me, but then again, i use kubuntu-desktop, so that made it a little easier.  the symlink was the only thing that was weird for me
[09:03] <calamari> my hoary crashed yet again, now when I boot I have no desktop icons (or wallpaper, just brown).. ~/Desktop does have all my stuff.  Also, right clicking on the desktop has no effect.  What could be doing this?
[09:03] <bpf> intelikey, thanks
[09:03] <intelikey> and icewm and twm and others as well bpf
[09:03] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, that must not be part of the xfce4 dependency tree then?
[09:03] <cjhcjhcjh> calamari, why not just upgrade to breezy?
[09:03] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: it is a virtual package
[09:03] <calamari> cjhcjhcjh: I will, but I want to fix this first
[09:03] <bpf> intelikey, i am not familiar with those. is there a url with any screenshots comparing the various window managers?
[09:03] <DarkSeid> well hete goes the reboot
[09:03] <viller> how to update to breezy through synaptic?
[09:04] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, k. unfamiliar with those.
[09:04] <DarkSeid> wish me luck
[09:04] <intelikey> bpf i'm sure there is but you can google for it as good as i can,  or probably a lot better, cause i'm on dialup.
[09:04] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: a 'virtual package' is one that installes a plethora of pkgs to make a complete install of something
[09:04] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, I installed x-window-system-core, xdm, xfce4.  That is all I needed for 5.04.
[09:05] <sbartleylinux> learn something new every day.:)
[09:05] <sbartleylinux> thx.
[09:05] <calamari> what program handles the desktop?  is it gnome-panel or something else?
[09:05] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop all pull in the components necessary to have those desktop environments on your box
[09:05] <bpf> intelikey, yes, just wondered if you knew any offhand. i will happily search myself
[09:05] <graabein> nalioth, can i paste you the error message i got?
[09:05] <El_Che> calamari: nautilus
[09:05] <nightswim> !java
[09:05] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:05] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, perfect. thx.
[09:05] <xfelon> KDE or Gnome?
[09:05] <intelikey> bpf no sorry, i dont.
[09:05] <viller> how to update to breezy through synaptic?
[09:05] <nalioth> graabein: surely
[09:05] <calamari> El_Che: thanks.. I now have a desktop
[09:06] <intelikey> search google.com/linux
[09:06] <calamari> El_Che: where is nautilus loaded from?
[09:06] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: sory
[09:06] <El_Che> calamari: gdm
[09:06] <viller> how to update to breezy through synaptic?
[09:06] <MachineScrew> got disconected
[09:06] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, np, how goes it?
[09:06] <viller> How to update to breezy??
[09:06] <MachineScrew> still the same
[09:06] <nooky59> hi there
[09:06] <kyncani> viller: read /topic
[09:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell viller about upgrade2breezy
[09:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nightswim about javadeb
[09:07] <nooky59> is there someone who manage to get sound working with a card based on snd-hda-intel on Breezy ?
[09:07] <viller> sorry i don't know too much
[09:07] <lizou> can anyone tell me how to install win32Codec on Ubuntu?
[09:07] <^PeLoS^> hjhgj
[09:07] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: I am realy board this is also why I am trying to do this
[09:07] <viller> ubuntu sites are so slow today :(
[09:07] <sunshine> yes
[09:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lizou about w32codecs
[09:08] <MachineScrew> damn PXE-E32:TFTP open timeout
[09:08] <jrattner1> Nalioth: When inserting my removable jump drive ii get this error: the file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.  Does that mean simply that I should create that folder or does it have to do with /dev/sda*
[09:08] <sunshine> now how do i find out where the root of the file system resides
[09:08] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: that is the exact error
[09:08] <sunshine> i tried sudo su -
[09:08] <nalioth> jrattner1: create it
[09:08] <jrattner1> nalioth, sounds good : )
[09:08] <intelikey> i have a lame question,   i've seen lots of howto upgrade to breezy; but could someone tell me, if i had hoary installed and working perfectly, WHY up grade to breezy ?
[09:08] <sunshine> mount /dev/ hda1 /mnt and it say you must specify the filesystem type
[09:08] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, did u c the url I pasted?
[09:09] <sandollar> nalioth do ya have something on nvidia drivers cause i cant get mine to work
[09:09] <nooky59> is there someone who manage to get sound working with a card based on snd-hda-intel on Breezy ?
[09:09] <sunshine> and when i type chroot /mnt
[09:09] <^PeLoS^> olaps
[09:09] <sunshine> it say no file or diroctory
[09:09] <Almindor> how do I enable localhost to use mysql?
[09:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sandollar about nvidia
[09:09] <sunshine> please help someone
[09:09] <starscalling> kubuntu-deskktop kinda nice :P
[09:09] <nooky59> I've recompiled the driver from the WIKI instruction else hotplug freeze
[09:09] <viller> do i need to download the iso to upgrade?
[09:09] <starscalling> nvidiia?
[09:09] <nooky59> my card seems to be detected, i have set the volume to the max
[09:09] <nooky59> i've unmutted channels
[09:10] <sunshine> now how do i find out where the root of the file system resides
[09:10] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine what is it you are trying to mount, again?
[09:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell viller about upgrade2breezy
[09:10] <calamari> El_Che: thanks again for your help
[09:10] <nooky59> but there is no sound both from the speakers and headphone :(
[09:10] <calamari> rebooting
[09:10] <sunshine> my whole system
[09:10] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: no
[09:10] <intelikey> sunshine fdisk -l
[09:10] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine...and what is it...fat32? ntfs?
[09:10] <cjhcjhcjh> MachineScrew, http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[09:10] <nalioth> sunshine: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l" as in the letter L
[09:11] <viller> i allready visited the link but that doesn't inform me
[09:11] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install nvidia-gllx
[09:11] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: ya i did i was just there it has me doing the same thing
[09:11] <nalioth> viller: no need for the ISO, just a network connection
[09:11] <MachineScrew> cjhcjhcjh: one person had the same problem
[09:11] <andrownz> hey, i've just tested ubuntu breezer. I wonder what ubuntu uses to auto mount everything like that so easily? like usbdrives, ipod, etc .. whenever I plug-in something, it appears on desktop. no autofs, no automount, hotplug script? tell me :)
[09:11] <starscalling> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:11] <starscalling> :)
[09:11] <nooky59> noone for the sound ?
[09:11] <viller> nalioth: but what does "Edit/Add CD-ROM" mean?
[09:11] <starscalling> that got my nvidia working awesome
[09:12] <nooky59> it's veri frustrating, I've tried the forums but without luck
[09:12] <lizou> how to get the newer version of lyx 1.3.6
[09:12] <nooky59> s/veri/very/ ;)
[09:12] <nalioth> viller: if you wish to upgrade from the ISO, be my guest, but you dont have to
[09:12] <sunshine> nalioth i di what u said it has /dev/hda1 system linux /dev/hda2 estended and /hdahda5 linux swap
[09:13] <TW> hi all, anyone have problem with kde and the automounting of the usb disk or key?
[09:13] <Pluk> how can i disable multiple sounds with alsa.. it screws up lipsync in mplayer :(
[09:13] <cjhcjhcjh> nalioth, can you tell me, which file lists the apt-get that the standard install does?
[09:13] <viller> nalioth: sorry i didn't read everything, i'm so stupid, i'm embarrased of myself
[09:13] <Riddell> TW: known problem, I'm fixing it onw
[09:13] <Riddell> now
[09:14] <sunshine> what do i do now
[09:14] <intelikey> pluk sudo alsa-ctl   maybe
[09:14] <jrattner1> nalioth, after creating /mediia/sda1 I still get the same error
[09:14] <inthenow> hello
[09:14] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine; please explain what systems are on your machine; what do you want to access?
[09:14] <intelikey> alsa-<tab-key>
[09:15] <nooky59> is there someone who manage to get sound working with a card based on snd-hda-intel on Breezy ?
[09:15] <nalioth> jrattner1: i'm not too sure about mounting usb sticks
[09:15] <anonnon> xsupplicant config file says most fields are deprecated (even the ones listed in default cfg)! does anyone know the proper fields for the config?
[09:15] <inthenow> im having trouble with pppoe...it wont work at boot and i have to use pppoeconf everytime the computer starts
[09:15] <jrattner1> nalioth, previously it mounted perfectly in hoary
[09:15] <nalioth> jrattner1: lots of things have changed in breezy
[09:15] <bpf> any thinkpad users in here? i have an x40 and I don't think the suspend/hibernate is working properly
[09:16] <TW> Riddell: do you think that i can find it in a next upgrade of packets?
[09:16] <sunshine> ok i gedit /lib/lsb/init-functions now my computer would not boot it said i have syntax error on this file it sa y i need to manually repair i was told there is a way i can mount my hd with this live cd i'm on my system is breezy
[09:16] <xfelon> How do I get my thumb button on my house to work with ubuntu?
[09:16] <intelikey> inthenow what ever command you have to run to get it working you can put in one of the startup scripts in /etc/rc*/
[09:16] <pder> do i need a computer to use ubuntu?
[09:16] <sunshine> nalioth i di what u said it has /dev/hda1 system linux /dev/hda2 extended and /hdahda5 linux swap
[09:16] <fredforfaen> pder lol
[09:17] <nalioth> sunshine: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <cjhcjhcjh> ok sunshine cd /mnt   mkdir /lin    mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/lin
[09:17] <nooky59> noone having a Centrio based with an HDA Intel based on 657 persons from the channel
[09:17] <nooky59> arghhhh :o(
[09:18] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about ndiswrapper
[09:18] <nooky59> noone = no one ! sorry ;)
[09:18] <intelikey> inthenow you know anything about sysVinit ?
[09:18] <pder> I TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE CRAP
[09:18] <bored2k> I just installed an nvidia riva tnt2 on my box and lost X, how would i get it back?! :(
[09:18] <nicklas> Hi. I'm installing a program, and i'm going to do this: run "make install" from the top of the package directory. But when typing it in the terminal it says command not found?
[09:18] <HappyFool> not unlike your english
[09:19] <cjhcjhcjh> pder, and all your base are belong to me, I expect
[09:19] <Kyral> nicklas, install build-essential
[09:19] <pder> HappyFool: I SPEAK ENGRISH
[09:19] <tristanmike> pder, no need to use caps here
[09:19] <El_Che> pder: I TRYD YOR MOMMA AND SHE SUCK
[09:19] <El_Che> :)
[09:19] <nooky59> very frustrating ! it won't be good to be obliged to go back to SuSE 10 where the sound work
[09:19] <inthenow> intelikey: no i dont know anything about sysvinit
[09:19] <illissius> is there any way/where I could download packages for different kernel versions than what's in breezy? (i'm having some network problems with i've read could be kernel related)
[09:19] <nooky59> else Breezy seems very nice
[09:20] <intelikey> nicklas  you will need to install as root   try "sudo make install"
[09:20] <lizou> can anyone tell me how to get the newest version of lyx 1.3.6
[09:20] <illissius> nooky59: i'm assuming you tried modprobe snd-hda-intel?
[09:20] <marcus^> any nice tutorials on how to run WINXP and Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 (dualboot) ?
[09:20] <intelikey> inthenow type "runlevel" and see what runlevel you are in and choose that level
[09:20] <HappyFool> lizou: if it's not in the repositories, easiest is probably to install from source
[09:21] <Fah> anyone having issues with java segfaulting on breezy?
[09:21] <marcus^> shall i just make a new partition?
[09:21] <starscalling> 57% [2 j2re1.4 11843192/22.5MB 52%]                               20.5kB/s 9m52s
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> i just bought a belkin wireless nic and ubuntu can see it in the device manager but i can't seem to get it to run can anyone help?
[09:21] <intelikey> ls /etc/rc<whateverrunlevel>.d/
[09:21] <Bourne> marcus^: Do a google search for it, the first few hits are How to's
[09:21] <cjhcjhcjh> marcus 1) grab partiton magic and free up at least 3gb...2) boot the install CD...is all
[09:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pder about conduct
[09:22] <inthenow> intelikey: whats a run level?
[09:22] <bored2k> I just installed an nvidia riva tnt2 on my box and lost X, how would i get it back?! :(
[09:22] <pder> nalioth: what did i do?
[09:22] <nalioth> pder: just something to read
[09:22] <Loststar> Hello
[09:22] <tristanmike> !tell marcus^ about dualboot
[09:22] <nooky59> illissius : yes ;) of course ;)
[09:22] <HappyFool> bored2k: tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[09:22] <bettong_BOFH> so anyone have any idea?
[09:23] <nooky59> I've recompiled alsa driver from alsa-source the debian way with make-kpkg
[09:23] <inthenow> intelikey: what do i put in that folder? has a bunch of S#name files
[09:23] <nooky59> because the stock snd-hda-intel freeze hotplug at boot
[09:23] <bored2k> HappyFool: i'm trying to install nvidia-glx first with no luck so far :/ . that's my next step
[09:23] <Bourne>  !tell Bourne about dualboot
[09:23] <illissius> nooky59: don't know then... just know it didn't automatically load the module for mine either
[09:23] <Bourne> cool
[09:23] <siucdude> question i get error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 i have googled for anwsers but nothing, i can boot into ubuntu but windows gives me that error.
[09:23] <cjhcjhcjh> bettong_BOFH, not much ideas...does it show up in ifconfig?
[09:23] <lizou> i am a newbie, can you tell where to find the repositories and source?
[09:23] <pder> is ubuntu better than debian?
[09:23] <HappyFool> !tell lizou about repos
[09:23] <bettong_BOFH> cjhcjhcjh,  let me check
[09:23] <_jason> !tell lizou about repos
[09:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lizou about sources
[09:23] <bpf> pder, yes
[09:24] <nooky59> then installing the resulting .deb package, my card is seen, I can set it up from alsamixer and gnome sound applet
[09:24] <cusco> hi Im running hoary livecd
[09:24] <cusco> but for quite some hours now
[09:24] <nalioth> lizou: source code is at http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10
[09:24] <Loststar> i want to try ubuntu  so i am looking for a program  that will let me upload files  to  my  gmail acount  then get  them back after i install  ubuntu anyone know of a program that can do this
[09:24] <viller> it's so hard to even update
[09:24] <nooky59> but even when putting volume to the max and unmutting channel, there is no sound
[09:24] <HappyFool> lizou: you'll need to get the source from lyx's website; however, compiling from source is moderately complicated
[09:24] <cusco> if I exec free
[09:24] <pder> !tell HappyFool about conduct
[09:24] <cusco> 19:23 Mem:        499928     496864       3064          0     124384      28476
[09:24] <nooky59> thanks anyway illissius
[09:24] <cusco> how do I flush the memory?
[09:24] <intelikey> inthenow techy stuff.   do this "sudo gedit /etc/rcS.d/usb "   and at the end of that file just before it says " exit 0 "   add the command that starts your pppoe stuff and save and exit.  that way it will start on boot for you.
[09:24] <bettong_BOFH> cjhcjhcjh,  no it does not although the computer has detected it correctly
[09:24] <viller> can any breezy user paste me his/her sources.list?
[09:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell viller about sources
[09:24] <viller> my list is messed up and it doesn't work
[09:25] <tristanmike> !tell viller about sources
[09:25] <marcus^> viller: sure.. gedit
[09:25] <pder> !tell viller about conduct
[09:25] <xfelon> hey
[09:25] <xfelon> how do i get "repos"?
[09:25] <_jason> !tell xfelon about repos
[09:25] <cjhcjhcjh> bettong_BOFH, if its not loaded into ifconfig, its not loaded the drivers...and thats about the limit of my knowledge on this...hope to point you in the right direction, sounds like you need an insmod for it
[09:25] <pder> !tell xfelon about repos
[09:25] <intelikey> inthenow can you handle that ?
[09:26] <bettong_BOFH> cjhcjhcjh, insmod?
[09:26] <xfelon> thanks
[09:26] <pder> !tell bettong about insmod
[09:26] <siucdude> question i get error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[09:26] <Dessimat0r> me too
[09:26] <Dessimat0r> I just came into ask about it
[09:26] <kyle_> is there any way to ugrade to the newist version without reinstalling the OS?
 Hi, I have a problem with GRUB -- I'm getting Error: Unknown filesystem type or somesuch on ext3 and reiserfs partitions
 thus I cannot boot Linux
[09:26] <pder> !tell pder about install
[09:26] <olicat> hi all. how can i get my dvd writer working with breezy? regular cd's pops up a dialog, but blank dvds doesn't do anything
[09:26] <Lars_G> !java
[09:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:26] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, reiserfs
[09:26] <bettong_BOFH> !insmod
[09:26] <ubotu> bettong_BOFH: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:27] <bettong_BOFH> hmm this is really odd
[09:27] <larsrohdin> Lars_G, hey! From sweden? Finspng?
[09:27] <andred> If I want messages to be displayed in English, but all other locale stuff in another language, can I configure this graphically, or do I need to set LC_MESSAGES and friends in /etc/environment?
[09:27] <intelikey> looks like maybe not loading the initrd.
[09:27] <creslin> Evnin all - Just upgraded to 5.10 from a hoary install I've had a wee while here - only gnome-terminal and root terminal have dropped off my applications -> system tools menu. Anybody else experienced this?
[09:27] <bettong_BOFH> i really want to get this card working and i really need help >.<
[09:27] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  ?
[09:27] <olicat> any ideas anyone? does ubuntu support dvd writers?
[09:28] <_jason> !tell kyle about breezy
[09:28] <inthenow> intelikey: is there a way to search the files for the command already there? i dont see how it might matter if i have to run pppoeconf to reconfigure for it to work anyway
[09:28] <Mez> 397 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.
[09:28] <Mez> Need to get 267MB of archives.
[09:28] <Mez> After unpacking 15.9MB disk space will be freed.
[09:28] <Mez> lmao
[09:28] <pder> !tell olicat about dvd
[09:28] <graabein> creslin, i think terminal is in another sub menu?
[09:28] <nalioth> Mez: please dont paste
[09:28] <olicat> pder, i can play dvd's fine, but i'm trying to write them
[09:28] <Mez> @nalioth:P sorry... I thought 3 lined was acceptable
[09:28] <DarkSeid> well so everything went pretty well except I lost two functions
[09:28] <informant> olicat: you should be able to use `growisofs` to burn data DVDs under any modern linux distro that has support for either internal or usb-based
[09:28] <nalioth> olicat: ubuntu supports many dvd drives
[09:28] <inthenow> how can i search multiple files for a string of text
[09:28] <shuddertrix> olicat: Should be able to work well.
[09:28] <DarkSeid> for whatever reason my digital camera is no longer mounted
[09:29] <lllmanulll> inthenow, grep ?
[09:29] <pder> olicat: cdrecord supports dvd writing
[09:29] <siucdude> question i get error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[09:29] <flagfranca> how do I enable Universe and MultiVerse Repositories? I'm enabling it in Synaptic but it doesnt work....
[09:29] <inthenow> lllmanulll: how?
[09:29] <DarkSeid> and when I go to run glxgears it tells me "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:29] <DarkSeid> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:29] <DarkSeid> "
[09:29] <intelikey> inthenow yes "grep -HiRae'<yoursearchpatern>' /etc/rc*
[09:29] <illissius> [21:20:27]  <illissius> is there any way/where I could download packages for different kernel versions than what's in breezy? <- no one knows?
[09:29] <olicat> but the icon doesnt show up on the desktop, like regular blank cd's
[09:29] <cjhcjhcjh> sui
[09:29] <illissius> I could try compiling myself, but that would be -painful- on a 350MHz box with very limited diskspace...
[09:29] <lllmanulll> intelikey, grep 'search_string' file1 file2 file3 etc.
[09:29] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, are you tryig to boot windows?
[09:29] <viller> there's still an error with my repositories list, but synaptic started to find updates so i hope everything is ok
[09:29] <Ju> Hi all!
[09:29] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  yes
[09:29] <creslin> graabein,  swear it wasnt a minute ago - but it does appear to be in accessories now. Now i'm jut missing my root-terminal entry. Tx.
[09:30] <DarkSeid> any idea on that one folks?
[09:30] <intelikey> no a recursive is what i intended lllmanulll
[09:30] <tristanmike> viller, are you running breezy and have the backports uncommented?
[09:30] <n1xt3r_> DarkSeid: maybe you need to restart X
[09:30] <lllmanulll> intelikey, recursive ? -R
[09:30] <Ju> I have issue installing breezy on a toshiba laptop (qosmio g20) the installer doesn't find the HD http://pastebin.com/393755
[09:30] <flagfranca> what are the adressess for Breezy Universe and Multiverse Repos?
[09:30] <DarkSeid> I restarts the whole box
[09:30] <intelikey> yep
[09:30] <viller> tristanwike: i'm trying to update to breezy
[09:30] <lllmanulll> intelikey, grep -R 'search_string' etc.
[09:30] <satafterh> is this channel ever grown in the last few days lol
[09:31] <graabein> flagfranca, just add universe and multiverse behind main in deb: archives.ubuntu..... breezy line
[09:31] <lllmanulll> flagfranca, Just replace "hoary" with "breezy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:31] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, check your grub.conf file has root (hda,b)  (or rootnoverify (hda,b)) and chainloader (hda,b)+1
[09:31] <intelikey> and i for case insensitive   and H  and a and  lastly e for regular exp.
[09:31] <DarkSeid> any other suggestions?
[09:31] <tristanmike> viller, as I understand it, there are no backports or extras for breezy as of yet, so they must either be removed, or commented temporarilly
[09:31] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  i have it set to hd0,0
[09:31] <graabein> DarkSeid, about glxgears? have you tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:32] <lllmanulll> tristanmike, viller, no backports yet, it has just been released :)
[09:32] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, try 0,1...hd starts on 0, parts on 1
[09:32] <Mez> no Breezy backports yet I'm afraid
[09:32] <flagfranca> graabein: ok, but why when I enable it in the synaptic interface it simply doesnt work?
[09:32] <intelikey> lllmanulll you learning from me, or teaching me?
[09:32] <tristanmike> see, I understood correctly
[09:32] <DarkSeid> reconfigure in what way?
[09:32] <DarkSeid> I checked the config file and everything is correct from what I can tell
[09:32] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  i have two hard disks
[09:32] <lllmanulll> intelikey, I'm not learning or teaching anyone, I'm trying to help out :)
[09:32] <viller> lllmanull, tristanmike, i don't even know what's a backport :P
[09:33] <n1xt3r_> DarkSeid: see "set |grep -i display"
[09:33] <creslin> sweet lord ubuntu-calendar is broken!
[09:33] <louix> Does anyone know if there is a DENU for ubuntu [to configure my ubuntu menus on flux] 
[09:33] <graabein> im not sure, im quite the newbie, but i had problems with my nvidia drivers and opengl... looks like the same message
[09:33] <cjhcjhcjh> hdax,y.......x is drive no, starting from 0....y is partition no, starting from 1.   Sounds like your grub.conf does not have the right numbers.
[09:33] <viller> ok i'll update it tomorrow, i got everything working, but it's too late to download all the updates
[09:33] <nicklas> A program is asking this: Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel? Im running Breezy Badger..
[09:33] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  ok let me play with them
[09:33] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, or reinstall grub, and it will prob figure it all out
[09:33] <louix> After I installed flux there was no menus =[
[09:33] <inthenow> intelikey: so i just add pon dsl-provider to the end of any of those files before exit0
[09:33] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, well, installed xubuntu-desktop. Now startx works but the xdm is not bringing a gui login up on boot.  manual start of xdm and check of .xsession-errors shows: xfce-mcs-manager lost it's connection to the display.  Any ideas?
[09:34] <graabein> DarkSeid, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <intelikey> louix apt-cache search <blah>
[09:34] <DarkSeid> DISPLAY=:0
[09:34] <louix> thanks intelikey
[09:34] <nalioth> nicklas: use synaptic and install linux-source and kernel-headers to match your kernel
[09:34] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: install gdm
[09:34] <intelikey> inthenow yeah i'd use usb or net<something>
[09:34] <mae> how do you redirect std out and std err to /dev/null when launching a prog into the background? i.e. myprog &
[09:34] <mysterious_w> Hoorah, my ship-it order of a single CD has been approved
[09:34] <nicklas> nalioth: allright, trying that
[09:34] <kronus-> is anyone here running apache on ubuntu server config?
[09:34] <DarkSeid> graabein DISPLAY=:0
[09:34] <intelikey> because of order.
[09:34] <cjhcjhcjh> which package contains "man"?
[09:34] <mysterious_w> I'm british, how long does it normally take for ship it to.. er.. ship?
[09:35] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, why not xdm?  is it broken?
[09:35] <inthenow> intelikey: nothing like that there though
[09:35] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  my menu.lst is set up ubuntu (hd1,0) and windows (hd0,0)
[09:35] <deFrysk> cjhcjhcjh, all packages contain man
[09:35] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: i know nothing about xdm. but gdm will function fine with xfce4
[09:35] <deFrysk> cjhcjhcjh, man = manual
[09:35] <graabein> DarkSeid, sorry, im not quite sure what you should do
[09:35] <cjhcjhcjh> deFrysk, mine doesnt...how do I get it
[09:36] <_jason> mae just redirect like normal and put the & at the end I bleieve
[09:36] <intelikey> oh yeah i'm forgetting it's ub. inthenow anything in /etc/rc2.d/30-50's  will work.
[09:36] <deFrysk> cjhcjhcjh, try man grub
[09:36] <deFrysk> as an example
[09:36] <creslin> mae nohup myprog & >/dev/null 2>&1
[09:36] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, unfortunately, gdm requires many other items.  We are really trying to build a minimal gui system and thus want/need to use xdm.  thx anyway.
[09:36] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, there is no such thing as hda0...it starts on 1...that is prob the cause of the error
[09:36] <creslin> mae or start as normal then ctrl-z to stop and ctrl-b to send to bg
[09:37] <sbartleylinux> Anyone familiar with getting xdm to work on breezy?
[09:37] <inthenow> intelikey: ok ill try brb...
[09:37] <intelikey> k
[09:37] <cjhcjhcjh> deFrysk, man; command not found....and how do I install it?
[09:37] <mae> cersliahh thanks
[09:37] <marcus^> does Ubuntu Breezy require 10gb? :S
[09:37] <inthenow> intelikey: 30-50s?
[09:37] <deFrysk> cjhcjhcjh, man grub , not just man
[09:37] <inthenow> intelikey: crazy business
[09:37] <foxiness> am upgrade from 5.04 to RC but the usplash not load on boot is there something am need to do to get it working on boot like fresh one?
[09:37] <lllmanulll> marcus^, at the very most :)
[09:37] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: disable gui login
[09:38] <DarkSeid> well I will beat my head against the wall later for glxgears
[09:38] <lllmanulll> marcus^, depending on how much space you want for your /home, of course...
[09:38] <intelikey> yeah S30<blah>   S40<blah> ....
[09:38] <inthenow> intelikey: there is no 30-50s
[09:38] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, ?
[09:38] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  well if ubuntu is installed on my second hard disk and that is hd1,0 what do you think windows should be?
[09:38] <n1xt3r_> Darkseid: try "glxgears -display 0"
[09:38] <DarkSeid> anyone have any idea why my USB suddenly STOPPED working after the update to breezy?
[09:38] <cjhcjhcjh> deFrysk, man anything-you-like...I dont have the "man" package installed!
[09:38] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  i tried fdisk
[09:38] <HappyFool> sbartleylinux: well, the gdm package provides /etc/init.d/gdm -- does the xdm package provide anything like that?
[09:38] <intelikey> inthenow "ls /etc/rc2.d/ "     and look for numbers......
[09:38] <sunshine> cjhcjhcjh can u help me
[09:38] <inthenow> 30s-50s doesnt exist...except evrything else up to 90s
[09:38] <kronus-> cjhcjhcjh: sudo apt-get man
[09:38] <eyequeue> cjhcjhcjh:  then you are lacking a complete linux installation
[09:38] <mhz> hip
[09:38] <DarkSeid> error couldn't open display 0
[09:38] <nalioth> sbartleylinux: i was thinking and that isnt good sometimes
[09:39] <sunshine> if u are not to busy
[09:39] <deFrysk> eyequeue, aye aye
[09:39] <sbartleylinux> nalioth, yes. /etc/init.d/xdm
[09:39] <mhz> Any simple tool (KISS enough) to convert OGG into MP3 ?
[09:39] <HappyFool> sbartleylinux: ok, what happens when you run that? 'sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start' ? (assuming X/gdm/kdm not running)
[09:39] <sbartleylinux> nalioth,  it is running, but not starting xfce.
[09:39] <n1xt3r_> Darkseid: i mean  "glxgears -display $DISPLAY"
[09:39] <marcus^^> there
[09:39] <deFrysk> mhz, ogg2mp3
[09:39] <inthenow> intelikey: 10s, 20s, 80s, 90s
[09:39] <intelikey> should i have said anything >=30    inthenow ?
[09:39] <mhz> nop
[09:39] <marcus^^> but does Ubuntu Breezy require 10 GB? :s
[09:39] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  or maybe easy how would i reinstall grub or reconfigure it
[09:39] <cjhcjhcjh> eyequeue, yep...and I would like to get the basics...not sure what is missing...would like to know...can get e.g. man but how do I know I get all the {normal]  stuff...ie can I copy the base install apt-gets from somewhere?
[09:39] <intelikey> would that help ?
[09:40] <inthenow> intelikey: you tell me, this is your idea. hehehe
[09:40] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, that would be my tactic ;-)
[09:40] <HappyFool> sbartleylinux: hrm. maybe look in /etc/X11/xinit or /etc/X11/Xsession.d ?
[09:40] <Wolek> marcus: no, i had it on smaller partition
[09:40] <sunshine> cjhcjhcjh can u help me please
[09:40] <DarkSeid> same message as before with the NO protocol specified
[09:40] <mhz> deFrysk: nop, I apt-cache searched it unsucessfully
[09:40] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, quick, painless,let the pc work it out
[09:40] <marcus^^> Wolek: how small?
[09:40] <sbartleylinux> HappyFool, k.
[09:40] <cjhcjhcjh> sunshine, what?
[09:40] <marcus^^> the windowsdualboot howto says "at least 10gb"
[09:40] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  how do i reconfigure grub
[09:40] <inthenow> intelikey: so 80s is fine then?
[09:40] <oxez> New ATI drivers released 8.18.6
[09:40] <foxiness> i want to know if there who use smrtlink on breezy and get it working ?
[09:40] <lllmanulll> siucdude, What do you mean by reconfigure ?
[09:41] <bam_> hey anyone know why gtkpod wont display nfo from say selecting the artist(like displaying all the tracks?
[09:41] <DarkSeid> well OpenGL and USB are the only things non functioning after the upgrade to breezy
[09:41] <intelikey> yes i specified 30-50 becaues of the sysv convintions but anything after 20 which is where the root file system should be mounted will be fine.
[09:41] <siucdude> 111manu111: i am geting error and windows is not picking up
[09:41] <DarkSeid> which makes this workstation essentially useless to me atm
[09:41] <Wolek> marcus: it uses about 1,6 GB
[09:41] <sunshine> i still tryin to mount my hd i've tried live cd recovery procedure and Recovering Ubuntu After Installing Windows procedure but neither work i thougght u had some ideas earlier
[09:41] <Wolek> marcus: i have 8 GB partition fot it
[09:42] <viller> is there anything to search with in ubuntu?
[09:42] <cjhcjhcjh> lllmanulll, how to get grub to install, like it does on installation
[09:42] <viller> to search for files i mean
[09:42] <Wolek> marcus: plus swap
[09:42] <lllmanulll> siucdude, maybe try sudo grub-install /dev/hda for a start
[09:42] <sunshine> so i can fix the changes to this file i mess up
[09:42] <lllmanulll> siucdude, cjhcjhcjh, assuming /dev/hda is your drive
[09:42] <graabein> DarkSeid, i just dist-upgraded myself and it looks like my opengl is broken
[09:42] <graabein> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:42] <siucdude> 111manu111: did that and nothing
[09:42] <cjhcjhcjh> viller, learn about grep,its very cool...command line...e,g, ls -lR |grep linux
[09:42] <HappyFool> viller: not sure about gui (isn't beagle a search thing?), but on the command-line you can use the 'locate' command
[09:43] <siucdude> 111manu111: /dev/hda is my windows and /dev/hdb is my ubuntu but still nothing
[09:43] <lllmanulll> siucdude, Did you try grub-installing and then reboot ?
[09:43] <viller> i'd like to have something like mac, everybody's saying good about it
[09:43] <viller> even windows has a search
[09:43] <intelikey> sunshine do "fdisk -l "  and find your linux partition and note the address.   then "sudo mount /dev/<address> /media && ls /media"
[09:44] <lllmanulll> siucdude, You still need to install grub on /dev/hda, even if Ubuntu is on hdb, I gess it's the best bet
[09:44] <viller> but ubuntu has just a command line feature
[09:44] <siucdude> 111manu111: yes my ubuntu works but windows gives me a error
[09:44] <DarkSeid> any folks here have problems with USB and OpenGL after dist-upgrade to Breezy from Hoary?
[09:44] <cjhcjhcjh> "command line feature" lol
[09:44] <tristanmike> viller, is there no "Search for Files" under Places?
[09:44] <viller> it would be great if ubuntu had virtual folders too
[09:44] <lllmanulll> siucdude, What kind of error ?
[09:44] <graabein> viller, try under places > search for files
[09:44] <siucdude> 111manu111:  error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[09:44] <viller> :D i didn't notice it before
[09:44] <Kyral> viller, locate is your friend :P
[09:44] <viller> thank ya
[09:44] <intelikey> siucdude hda is not a partition. it is a disk.    hda1 hda5 hda47 would be partitions
[09:44] <graabein> :)
[09:45] <Kyral> its command line but it rocks
[09:45] <xfelon> hey i installed gFTP and now when i try to connect to a server it says "The protocol 'Ftp' is currently not supported."
[09:45] <marcellus> heh
[09:45] <HappyFool> xfelon: try 'ftp' instead of 'Ftp' ?
[09:45] <intelikey> Kyral cli always rocks.
[09:45] <Rawplayer> anyone in here using ubuntu linux?
[09:45] <Kyral> indeed
[09:45] <viller> hehe, ubuntu's search is faster than windows' every os has a better search
[09:45] <Aven> hi
[09:45] <Rawplayer> no j/k
[09:45] <Rawplayer> hehe
[09:45] <graabein> allright i've got banshee!
[09:45] <Aven> isn't there a way to install webmin through "apt-get"?
[09:45] <siucdude> intelikey:  i know my disk is hda windows that can't boot and my partition was before ha0,0 i think
[09:45] <Wolek> Rawplayer, me
[09:45] <Rawplayer> no shit ;p
[09:45] <viller> rawplayer, :D
[09:45] <Ju> I have issue installing breezy on a toshiba laptop (qosmio g20) the installer doesn't find the HD http://pastebin.com/393755 , nobody ? ;-/
[09:46] <pinucset> somebody wants a gmail invitation
[09:46] <DarkSeid> well gonna reboot one more time to see what happens
[09:46] <DarkSeid> brb
[09:46] <bayram> hallo ich brauce hilfe
[09:46] <andrownz> is there a place to copy/paste a weird series of command?
[09:46] <Rawplayer> but erm.. which kernel is in breezy?
[09:46] <chrisbudden14> anyone having display problems with the forum?
[09:46] <graabein> pastebin.com
[09:46] <HappyFool> Aven: almost certainly
[09:46] <foxiness> how can i get Usplash to work after upgrade?
[09:46] <HappyFool> !tell andrownz about pastebin
[09:46] <Aven> what would be the command ?
[09:46] <bayram> wer kann deutsch
[09:46] <Ju> Rawplayer:  2.6.12
[09:46] <evilmegaman> hi, no one in kubuntu is helping me with my question which I have asked once every hour for 5 hours.. so my question is, How do I install java and have it be recognized when I do java --version. I get gij as output
[09:46] <nekostar> oops lol
[09:46] <Rawplayer> aight
[09:46] <Rawplayer> great
[09:46] <intelikey> hd0,0 under grub should be /dev/hda1
[09:46] <HappyFool> !de
[09:46] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[09:46] <cjhcjhcjh> andrownz, pastebin.com
[09:46] <Wolek> i'm using fresh install of 5.10, just installed :>
[09:46] <nekostar> java?
[09:46] <BrotherYves> bayran: was ist dein probleem
[09:46] <nekostar> lesse here
[09:46] <evilmegaman> Yes nekostar
[09:46] <HappyFool> !tell evilmegaman about javadeb
[09:46] <Rawplayer> because my sata controller is only supported in 2.6.11 and higher
[09:46] <nekostar> gimme second
[09:46] <siucdude> intelikey:  it is
[09:46] <xfelon> ok
[09:46] <nekostar> i have to install for my azureus anyway
[09:46] <Rawplayer> its a promise sata II 150 tx2
[09:46] <xfelon> thanks man
[09:47] <andrownz> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh : thx =)
[09:47] <xfelon> Thanks HappyFool
[09:47] <bayram> ich habe ubuntu neu instaliert aber ich kann nicht skype instaliere
[09:47] <xfelon> worked
[09:47] <intelikey> so did you mount it?
[09:47] <evilmegaman> II have seen that happyfool..
[09:47] <evilmegaman> But I don't have a BT client. Do I need one?
[09:47] <kemik> !de
[09:47] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[09:47] <inthenow> intelikey: ok so it didnt work...im starting to think it might be better to use it as USB
[09:47] <kemik> !skype
[09:47] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:47] <siucdude> intelikey:  yes and i can access it from ubuntu but that is my windows partion,disk and i can't grub into it i get eroor
[09:48] <HappyFool> evilmegaman: ubuntu comes with a bittorrent client
[09:48] <evilmegaman> oh cool :)
[09:48] <siucdude> intelikey:  error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[09:48] <evilmegaman> Thanks happyfool
[09:48] <BrotherYves> ich denke das prebleem komt van den neuen glib
[09:48] <evilmegaman> Wait, HappyFool, Does Kubuntu come with one?
[09:48] <intelikey> so sudo umount it and do what i said the first time use fdisk -l and find the linux partition siucdude
[09:48] <nekostar> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[09:48] <HappyFool> evilmegaman: i don't know; click on the link and find out ;)
[09:48] <nekostar> get the one thats NOT netbeans
[09:48] <lllmanulll> BrotherYves, Please get to #ubuntu-de for deutsch support
[09:49] <andrownz> can anyone explain this : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3095     ?
[09:49] <evilmegaman> alright
[09:49] <coolaj86> could someone tell me what I need to install to compile things from source? I've installed gcc, make, and kernel-headers but I'm getting errors about stdio.h (and everything else) not being found.
[09:49] <HappyFool> coolaj86: install 'build-essential'
[09:49] <marcellus> coolaj86: glibc?
[09:49] <sunshine> wellwhen i fdisk -l it showed /dev/hdb1 is system linux /dev/hdb2 is extended and /dev/hdb5 is linux swap
[09:49] <coolaj86> happyfool: thank you very much!
[09:49] <siucdude> intelikey:  ubuntu works like a charm its my windows that i can't boot into  i know that is not a hudge deal
[09:49] <nekostar> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=jre-1.5.0_05-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg
[09:49] <BrotherYves> lllmanulll: i am just trying to help the guy, i am here for an english chat
[09:49] <graabein> anyone know how to fix this:  $ glxgears
[09:49] <graabein> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:49] <bayram> wer kan trkish
[09:50] <lllmanulll> andrownz, something you don't understand ?
[09:50] <nekostar> that should be the correct one i believe
[09:50] <lllmanulll> BrotherYves, Sorry :)
[09:50] <nekostar> to _run_ apps
[09:50] <Ju> !synaptic
[09:50] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:50] <nekostar> HappyFool
[09:50] <BrotherYves> lllmanulll: no problem
[09:50] <sunshine> i mount dev/hdb1 but it say can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:50] <nekostar> the bittorrent client that comes with ubuntu is crap
[09:50] <lllmanulll> andrownz, mount needs what to mount as well as where to mount it
[09:50] <nekostar> sorry
[09:50] <nekostar> :P
[09:50] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, does the grub.conf have a chainloader in it?
[09:50] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install bittornado azureus
[09:50] <sunshine> remember im on a live cd
[09:50] <nekostar> :)
[09:50] <intelikey> siucdude ok i missunderstood you then i thought it was linux that wouldn't boot.   sorry.
[09:50] <nekostar> but
[09:50] <Wolek> my synaptic works perfect :D
[09:50] <bayram> trkce bilen yokmu kardesim
[09:50] <nekostar> put in the sun java first
[09:50] <lllmanulll> sunshine, you need to tell the system where you want to mount it
[09:50] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  yes chainloader +1
[09:51] <HappyFool> andrownz: what is the output of plain 'mount' ?
[09:51] <gooktime> btdownloadcurses for life
[09:51] <andrownz> lllmanulll, when it's in fstab you don't need to specify everyhing usually ..
[09:51] <andrownz> HappyFool, "plain mount" ?
[09:51] <bayram> cevap verin yemeyiz bir sey soracam
[09:51] <lllmanulll> andrownz, Ah, right, that's weird indeed :)
[09:51] <HappyFool> andrownz: mount<enter>
[09:51] <evilmegaman> nekostar, How do I go about getting sun java to be the output in java --version?
[09:51] <HappyFool> andrownz: obviously don't paste the output here
[09:51] <sunshine> i dont know how to do that all iwant is to be able to access my files and fix the changes to the file i mess up
[09:51] <nekostar> not totally sure
[09:51] <nekostar> but
[09:51] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, change it to cchainloader (hdX,Y)+1
[09:51] <evilmegaman> I installed it to /usr/java
[09:51] <nekostar> i BELIEVE that when you put it in
[09:52] <nekostar> it should take over settings
[09:52] <evilmegaman> weird
[09:52] <nekostar> ill know the answer to that in a little bit if you can hang on a sec
[09:52] <evilmegaman> I will check if I did something wrong :)
[09:52] <HappyFool> evilmegaman: you used the debs?
[09:52] <nekostar> i need to install it right now :P
[09:52] <gooktime> install linux
[09:52] <gooktime> :)
[09:52] <andrownz> HappyFool, it's not mounted ..
[09:52] <inthenow> pppoe is screwed
[09:52] <evilmegaman> No HappyFool, I can't use my BT clients I like because I don't have java >.<
[09:52] <HappyFool> andrownz: despite the final command in that sequence you pasted?
[09:53] <evilmegaman> the above makes me sound picky
[09:53] <intelikey> cjhcjhcjh > siucdude, change it to cchainloader (hd0,0)+1  <--- isn't it?
[09:53] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[09:53] <linad> hi
[09:53] <HappyFool> evilmegaman: a little ;)
[09:53] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  ok did that let me reboot
[09:53] <apollo2011> I am an idiot and messed up my grub menu
[09:53] <sbartleylinux> HappyFool, the problem seems to be that xdm is not bringing up a login.  I can startx and startxfce4 and both come up fine.  When I start,restart xdm, the screen goes black then drops back to prompt.
[09:53] <cjhcjhcjh> intelikey, siucdude quite right
[09:53] <siucdude> intelikey:  correct
[09:53] <lllmanulll> andrownz, Ah, it doesn't even get mounted ? Then are you sure it is ext3 indeed ?
[09:53] <izzy> hi... is there a way to make linux commands, namely cd, not case sensitive?
[09:53] <apollo2011> I amm now at the grub boot menu with a restored setup but it complains about the partition not being able to be booted
[09:53] <Kyral> izzy, nope
[09:54] <apollo2011> can someone help me fix grub?
[09:54] <HappyFool> sbartleylinux: i guess xdm needs some config; what i suggested earlier was just a guess, sorry
[09:54] <Waerner> Hi, how do I reconfigure the ethernet-device to NOT use sit0...?
[09:54] <lllmanulll> izzy, huh, no, except making aliases
[09:54] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh:  still same error
[09:54] <sbartleylinux> HappyFool, np. thx.
[09:54] <izzy> i know they are not case sensitive on OS X.........
[09:54] <cjhcjhcjh> apollo2011, seems to be the themme
[09:54] <BrotherYves> izzy: no linux is case sensitive
[09:54] <lllmanulll> izzy, alias 'CD'=cd for example
[09:54] <andrownz> lllmanulll, the last line show it gets mounted if i specify the second argument ....
[09:54] <Wolek> izzy: rather not. only aliases for commands
[09:54] <mwe> izzy: yes, change all the source code and recompile :)
[09:54] <izzy> will do.
[09:54] <lllmanulll> mwe, Great idea :-p
[09:54] <jcs> SATA support in installer by default?  Trying to install on ASUS T2 motherboard.
[09:54] <intelikey> cjhcjhcjh i'm thinking ntfs fubar
[09:55] <iz> exit
[09:55] <Waerner> anyone...? :P
[09:55] <graabein> apollo2011, try searching the ubuntu forums... i found some grub info there...
[09:55] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh:  i found a fix for this error in suse version but nothing for ubuntu
[09:55] <xfelon> Anyone want to see my awesome desktop lol?
[09:55] <apollo2011> cjhcjhcjh:  ok
[09:55] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh:  here it is http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html
[09:55] <intelikey> errrr no stage5 error.   you need the ntfs stage 5
[09:55] <cjhcjhcjh> intelikey, maybe... siucdude can you mount the ntfs?
[09:56] <Waerner> Does anyone know how to reconfigure my NIC, so I can get rid of that damn sit0-thing?
[09:56] <andrownz> lllmanulll, update : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3096
[09:56] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh: well it lets me mount it from ubuntu but wont let me access it hold on let me try something
[09:56] <intelikey> reinstall grub and make sure it installs the correct stage5
[09:57] <Waerner> :-/
[09:57] <HappyFool> intelikey: is that stage1.5 ?
[09:57] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh: ok ubuntu finds the disk as dev/hda but i tried to mount it and nothing before it let me view the files
[09:57] <HappyFool> Waerner: (a guess) look in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:58] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh: ok ubuntu finds the disk as dev/hda partition dev/hda1
[09:58] <sbartleylinux> Is there anyone here using xdm and breezy?
[09:58] <Waerner> HappyFool, I'll do that, thx, brb
[09:58] <intelikey> ntfs_stage1_5
[09:59] <HappyFool> intelikey: does such a thing exist?
[09:59] <intelikey> HappyFool is it not ntfs ?
[09:59] <Waerner> HappyFool, looks OK to me...? what should I change...?
[09:59] <intelikey> i thought it was.
[09:59] <intelikey> you have xp HappyFool ?
[10:00] <HappyFool> Waerner: look for a sit0 entry; as i said, that was a guess
[10:00] <DarkSeid> ok I got OpenGL workign by replacing the xorg.conf file with the one I had prior to upgrade
[10:00] <HappyFool> intelikey: yeah, i dual boot xp and hoary; i use a chainloader entry to boot xp from grub
[10:00] <kernel666> try dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda1 *GG**
[10:00] <graabein> DarkSeid, good job...
[10:00] <Waerner> HappyFool, okay, then I guess it looks OK then... nothing found :-/
[10:00] <DarkSeid> BUT for some reason my USB camera isn't automounted in K but works fine in Gnome
[10:00] <HappyFool> kernel666: c'mon dude
[10:00] <BooZee> I want to copy a DVD. how can I do that?
[10:00] <DarkSeid> for that matter using Kamera and Digikam says that the device doesn't even exist
[10:01] <intelikey> HappyFool ls /boot/grub (assumes it's there)  and see what stage1_5 files you have
[10:01] <DarkSeid> konqueror doesnt see it either
[10:01] <HappyFool> intelikey: e2fs, fat, jfs, minix, reiserfs and xfs
[10:01] <intelikey> i only have two.  ext  and   fat but i have see several.
[10:02] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh: how would i be able to find out my windows partion
[10:02] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh: maybe its not hd0,0
[10:02] <HappyFool> siucdude: 'sudo fdisk -l' will list all hard-disk partitions linux can find
[10:02] <intelikey> siucdude fdisk -l
[10:02] <HappyFool> siucdude: have you put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on the pastebin?
[10:02] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, try grub-install /dev/hda
[10:02] <HappyFool> sudo fdisk -l -- without sudo it doesn't do much
[10:02] <DarkSeid> any ideas on that one?
[10:03] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, as su
[10:03] <intelikey> ok fdisk -l /dev/hd* then   :)
[10:04] <HappyFool> DarkSeid: hmm. i'm not a kubuntu user, but it sounds like a bug. maybe test with a memory stick or other usb device if you can
[10:04] <bozel> hi
[10:04] <Aven> hi
[10:04] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh, happyfool:  ok disk /dev/hda is windows 60gb  and its /dev/hda1  now what do i put into grub
[10:04] <Aven> what's the gedit command again? (to edit other files)
[10:04] <bozel> how can i add a new user?
[10:04] <HappyFool> siucdude: can you please paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin, and the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst as well?
[10:04] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, did you try grub-install /dev/hda
[10:04] <DarkSeid> HappyFool I dont think it is Kubuntu though
[10:04] <HappyFool> siucdude: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:05] <DarkSeid> if it works in Gnome it should work in K
[10:05] <intelikey> bozel sudo useradd
[10:05] <bozel> ok thx
[10:05] <bozel> ill tr
[10:05] <bozel> y
[10:05] <HappyFool> DarkSeid: that spells a kde in ubuntu bug to me *shrug*
[10:05] <Aven> so..what's the gedit commad again? (to edit a file)
[10:05] <HappyFool> gedit filename
[10:06] <HappyFool> if you need administrator privileges, sudo gedit filename
[10:06] <cjhcjhcjh> Aven, er...gedit <filename>
[10:06] <Aven> ohh, I knew that
[10:06] <intelikey> sudo gedit <blah>  if you dont already own the file
[10:06] <siucdude> HappyFool:  ok
[10:06] <Aven> I forgot the "sudo" :P
[10:07] <siucdude> intelikey, cjhcjhcjh, happyfool:  yes i did grub-install /dev/hda
[10:07] <BooZee> hello! I would like to copy a DVD.
[10:07] <HappyFool> siucdude: i missed the earlier part of this conversation -- what is the problem? ubuntu boots, but windows doesn't ?
[10:07] <dandel1984> i keep having issues with my system not working with loading of my wireless network and bein able to run on the net right away.
[10:07] <intelikey> it installed which stage 5's ?
[10:07] <BooZee> How can I do that?
[10:08] <intelikey> BooZee clone copy you mean ?
[10:08] <siucdude> HappyFool:  i get this erro when i boot windows error Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[10:08] <mathmatt> my dlink dwl650+ was detected automagically and worked fine under hoary, any ideas as to why it doesn't work under breezy?
[10:08] <XTR-II> omg. ubuntuforums is down.
[10:08] <HappyFool> siucdude: you mean booting windows from grub, right?
[10:08] <BooZee> amm.. I don't know. I have a DVD, and I want to have another DVD, with the same content.  lol :-)
[10:09] <sorush20> Help my printer will not print...
[10:09] <siucdude> HappyFool: yes
[10:09] <HappyFool> siucdude: ok, please put your menu.lst and output of mount on the pastebin
[10:09] <HappyFool> siucdude: hopefully just need to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:09] <tuxuntu> Hello! What do I have to do when apt-get says: E: Package mdnsresponder has no installation candidate?
[10:09] <BooZee> intelikey: is it diffrent from DVD copy?
[10:09] <siucdude> HappyFool: i did
[10:09] <HappyFool> siucdude: ah
[10:10] <HappyFool> siucdude: it's traditional to paste an url here ;)
[10:10] <mwe> intelikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo says to not sudo {GUIAPP} as it might not set the environment and that might cause trouble and use gksudo or kdesu instead
[10:10] <dandel1984> i wonder if i got my file, /etc/network/interfaces, done wrong.
[10:10] <HappyFool> mwe: gksudo doesn't work correctly for me *shrug*
[10:10] <siucdude> HappyFool: sorry new to all this used to use suse but ubuntu is a lot better
[10:11] <mwe> I guess for gedit it wont hurt, anyway
[10:11] <robert2005> Hi! the amd64-k8 nvidia kernel stuff is brocken the amd64-generic works .. is this bug already know? and is there a walk around?
[10:11] <DarkSeid> ooh isnt this grand
[10:11] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, do you have scsi, perchance?
[10:11] <HappyFool> siucdude: the chainloader line looks a bit suspect
[10:11] <DarkSeid> ok anyone familiar with Evolution?
[10:11] <dandel1984> can somone tell me if i did this right... just keep in mind some of the info is changed due to my own reasons... http://rafb.net/paste/results/UH2JkQ95.html
[10:12] <DarkSeid> It says I don't have permission to attach a file
[10:12] <FliesLikeABrick> DarkSeid, evolution mail?
[10:12] <DarkSeid> yes Evolution mail
[10:12] <HappyFool> siucdude: my chainloader line is simply 'chainloader +1' -- yours has an extra (hd0,0) in it
[10:12] <BooZee> hey people, I want to copy a DVD. (maybe it is called Clone..) How can I do that?
[10:12] <FliesLikeABrick> are you sure you have read permissions on the file you're trying to attach?
[10:12] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  no
[10:12] <DarkSeid> yes
[10:12] <HappyFool> cjhcjhcjh: scsi/sata would show up as /dev/sd*
[10:12] <HappyFool> siucdude: let me just check the grub manual, but i think that might be at least part of the problem
[10:12] <siucdude> HappyFool:  i did have it before chainloader +1 but i changed it same error in both
[10:13] <El_Che> BooZee: install nerolinux, k3b or gnomebaker
[10:13] <Wolek> BooZee, use dd and growisofs
[10:13] <maddler> folks... any1 using a nokia 6680 + gnokii on breezy?
[10:13] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  no only hda hdb hdd hdc
[10:13] <sandollar> +
[10:13] <DarkSeid> ok restarting Evolution fixed it?
[10:14] <DarkSeid> ugh
[10:14] <Fred> how do i set a dns server using ssh?
[10:14] <DarkSeid> I am thinking I should have stayed with Hoary
[10:14] <synd> What should I use for P2P?
[10:14] <BooZee> El_Che: it says it can't find nerolinux. (i did sudo apt-get install nerolinux)
[10:14] <HappyFool> siucdude: hmm. when last did windows boot correctly?
[10:14] <HappyFool> siucdude: has it ever booted from grub correctly?
[10:14] <cjhcjhcjh> siu I missed the URL of the pastebin...what is it?
[10:15] <tuxuntu> Which package contains the gdk2.3 lib?
[10:15] <HappyFool> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3097
[10:15] <siucdude> HappyFool:  yes
[10:15] <El_Che> BooZee: it's proprietary software, you need to download it from ahead.be. Skip that, install k3b. Pretty good. Run it as gksudo k3b
[10:15] <cjhcjhcjh> HappyFool, ta
[10:15] <DarkSeid> well at least my mp3's still work w/ amarok
[10:15] <Jhair> tuxuntu: you can ask packages.ubuntu.com any time
[10:15] <HappyFool> siucdude: ok, have you changed anything since which might affect this?
[10:15] <BooZee> El_Che: i tried that, but i got an error.. something about burning speed...
[10:16] <BooZee> plus, isn't it a kde prog?
[10:16] <tuxuntu> Jhair, there are only packages for the GNOME1 desktop...
[10:16] <tuxuntu> what about the GTK2 versions?
[10:16] <tristanmike> BooZee, you can install kde packs in gnome and vise versa
[10:16] <xfelon> hey i have a question
[10:16] <xfelon> when im exctracting a file
[10:16] <xfelon> do i type
[10:16] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, ok...under "vista..." add the following;
[10:16] <xfelon> sudo add-file filename?
[10:16] <Fred> which config file do i need to edit to add DNS servers?
[10:17] <siucdude> HappyFool:  two things i have done that i have done before,  I installed the new windows and then took live cd ubuntu and did a grub-install and worked beofre this time i get this dumb message,
[10:17] <tuxuntu> Fred, /etc/resolv.conf
[10:17] <Fred> it says not to edit it :/
[10:17] <steve_don> BooZee: you could try gnome-baker if you want to stick with gnome apps
[10:17] <kronus-> AAUGHWTFWTF
[10:17] <lllmanulll> BooZee, gnomebaker actually :)
[10:17] <kronus-> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[10:17] <kronus-> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[10:17] <kronus->         LANGUAGE = "en",
[10:17] <kronus->         LC_ALL = (unset),
[10:17] <kronus->         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[10:17] <kronus->     are supported and installed on your system.
[10:17] <Fred> tuxuntu: its also symlinked to some other file too :/
[10:17] <kronus-> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[10:17] <Jhair> ouch
[10:17] <HappyFool> siucdude: hmm. did the windows install go correctly?
[10:17] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)<newline>root            (hd1,0)
[10:17] <HappyFool> kronus-: please don't paste here
[10:18] <kronus-> sorry
[10:18] <kronus-> but how do i fix it?
[10:18] <tristanmike> BooZee, or graveman, that's gnome too I believe
[10:18] <HappyFool> maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[10:18] <siucdude> HapyFool: yes
[10:18] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, delete the existing root, and change the last line to just chainloader     +1
[10:19] <El_Che> BooZee: set your burning speed in the conf
[10:19] <cjhcjhcjh> siu do you follow? I can pastebin if you need it
[10:19] <Kejk_PL> kronus-: try sudo spkg-reconfigure locales
[10:19] <Wolek> i'm going to make a tea, anyone want some  ? ;)
[10:19] <BooZee> can I copy (or clone, whatever..) dvd on the fly if I don't have enough free space ?
[10:19] <mukae> me
[10:19] <Kejk_PL> kronus-: and reboot probably :))
[10:19] <mukae> i want one thanks
[10:20] <mukae> this is a good wellcome wolek
[10:20] <oxez> can't wait ubuntu devs to add ATI 8.18.6 to repos! Looks like ATI improved opengl performanec
[10:20] <raven128> anyone got a script to mirror breezy packages for certain architectures? (want to do this at work so I can update home - on dialup STILL !)
[10:20] <HappyFool> siucdude: i can't find a grub error "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7" -- is that a grub or windows error ?
[10:21] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  i got it let me reboot
[10:21] <raven128> hey, partion type 0x7 is NTFS , its a grub error
[10:22] <siucdude> HapyFool: i don't know i googled that error and never seen anything like it i did find this http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html
[10:22] <HappyFool> siucdude: yeah, ok, it's a grub error. i don't know why grub is trying to read the ntfs filesystem though
[10:22] <jrattner1> Anyone know anything about removable storage devices
[10:22] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  hey you put down windows as root (hd1,0) but that is my ubuntu disk
[10:22] <HappyFool> siucdude: it should just load the bootload from the first sector
[10:23] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, yeah but bear with me...with the map stuff...hang on,lets get this right...
[10:23] <starscalling> mnsum
[10:23] <starscalling> er
[10:23] <starscalling> um
[10:23] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, http://pastebin.com/393818
[10:23] <starscalling> ./jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin <<-=-= not working as exicuting the package
[10:23] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, make it so...trust me ;-)
[10:24] <starscalling> how else can i tell my system to execute a self extracting package?
[10:24] <raven128> chmod +x ?
[10:24] <thespiritoftal> is there any need to format the disk drive or delete the hoary to install breezy?
[10:24] <cjhcjhcjh> starscalling, chmod +x ./jre- etc
[10:24] <thespiritoftal> or can i just install it over ?
[10:24] <mhz> Any simple tool (KISS enough) to convert OGG into MP3 ? (i did not find ogg2mp3)
[10:24] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about java
[10:24] <starscalling>  chmod a+x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[10:25] <cjhcjhcjh> msz open it using the sound recorder, save as...
[10:25] <starscalling> do i need to sudo to use the chmod command then?
[10:25] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  ok its rebooting
[10:25] <cjhcjhcjh> starscalling, yeah,
[10:25] <mukae> fucking ubunto i dont understand anything dude
[10:25] <HappyFool> mhz: a combination off ogg123 and lame ought to do it (not very simple, tohugh)
[10:25] <thespiritoftal> noone knows?
[10:25] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about w32 codecs
[10:25] <cjhcjhcjh> mukae, sorry to hear that, can you be a little more specific?
[10:25] <mukae> haha
[10:25] <thespiritoftal> ubotu tell me about breezy
[10:25] <mukae> i'm sorry
[10:26] <mhz> mukae: what do you need, respectfully?
[10:26] <Samy_M> Well I just installed my first Linux. :)
[10:26] <Wolek> jrattner1, read ubuntu guide, there are info about codecs
[10:26] <cjhcjhcjh> Samy_M, congrats ;-)
[10:26] <jrattner1> Wolek, im wondering why I cant find mplayer in the repositories
[10:26] <mukae> it's my first day whith this system
[10:26] <HappyFool> !tell thespiritoftal about breezyupgrade
[10:26] <raven128> thespiritoftal - just format the disk as part of breezy install...
[10:26] <starscalling> bash: ./jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory
[10:26] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about ndiswrappers
[10:26] <mukae> i didn't know anything about linux before today
[10:26] <mhz> HappyFool: ok
[10:26] <starscalling> ubotu tell me about java
[10:26] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about ndiswrapper
[10:26] <ajeet> mp3 in breezy anyone?
[10:26] <malverian[work] > Why do they recommend formatting hard drive?
[10:27] <jackmacokc> mukae, whats the problem
[10:27] <ProN00b> omigod help plx, i need a tutorial for setting up dual monitors, i don't wana think, does anyone got a good one ? (i lost the one i used for hoary -_-)
[10:27] <mhz> mukae: so, why you say it is system problem?
[10:27] <Samy_M> Can anybody tell me what's a good file to put a startup command into? I need to map my mousebuttons every time I startup.
[10:27] <raven128> install all the rythmbox plugins for MP3...
[10:27] <ProN00b> and i thought breezy would autoconfig it and didn't backup my xorg.conf !!!
[10:27] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  ok i am using mIRC on my laptop and now i got a new error,  filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[10:27] <ajeet> raven128: where frin?
[10:27] <ajeet> *from*
[10:27] <marcus^> hi
[10:27] <marcus^> is there a filesystem which both Ubuntu AND winxp supports?
[10:27] <raven128> UK
[10:27] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, ok, progress has been had, you have to admit ;-)
[10:28] <kevogod> marcus^, FAT32
[10:28] <mukae> i wanted to kick windows and ubuntu sounded real good, but i dont know how to use it in the mayority of the functions
[10:28] <marcus^> kevogod: sure?
[10:28] <raven128> marcus - use FAT32
[10:28] <kevogod> marcellus, But FAT32 is NOT secure.
[10:28] <marcus^> ok, not NTFS?
[10:28] <kevogod> err
[10:28] <kevogod> marcus
[10:28] <HappyFool> marcus^: fat is read/write from both, though you can't put /home or similar on fat
[10:28] <siucdude> cjhcjhcjh:  yes its different erro
[10:28] <jackmacokc> mukae, its not that hard..just give it time.....take the time to do some reading on wiki.ubuntu.com and in the forums
[10:28] <cjhcjhcjh> HappyFool, can you help siucdude with that bit?
[10:28] <ProN00b> marcus^, you can't really say support but use fat32
[10:28] <kronus-> i'm trying to install locales and localeconf, but apt is throwing a dependency error: glibc-2.3.2
[10:28] <kronus-> i have libc-6 installed
[10:28] <mukae> right
[10:28] <icarus> hi all, has anyone got skype to work in breazy??
[10:28] <kronus-> what's going wrong?
[10:29] <mukae> wiky cood be a good posibility
[10:29] <ajeet> Could anyone help me setup mp3 playing in breezy?
[10:29] <HappyFool> siucdude: can give us the complete error?
[10:29] <marcus^> ProN00b: i only need a station to store some mp3's i can read from both
[10:29] <jackmacokc> mukae, i've only been using it for a year and i'm still a noob...so hang in there
[10:29] <Samy_M> Can an NTFS partition be changed into FAT32 without destroying the contents? I can't backup 100+GB of stuff from that partition.
[10:29] <mukae> one year
[10:29] <HappyFool> kronus-: do you have (or have you had) non-ubuntu repositories enabled?
[10:29] <mukae> i ??
[10:29] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: let me post it
[10:29] <ProN00b> fat32 is cool for some simple files, marcus^, i am doing the same with my music and videos
[10:29] <kronus-> HappyFool: only ubuntu, i think
[10:29] <ProN00b> does anyone know a tutorial for dual monitors ??
[10:29] <kevogod> Fat32 degrades after 4 GB.
[10:30] <mukae> i wont wait so long to get on with it
[10:30] <jackmacokc> pron00b, i havent seen one. i'm looking for something similar myself - going from agp to pci graphics. my kernel is in panic mode because of it
[10:30] <cjhcjhcjh> Samy_M, what OS? 2000?
[10:30] <kronus-> are there repos i should add?
[10:30] <HappyFool> kronus-: have you maybe mixed breezy/hoary repos?
[10:31] <kronus-> all hoary
[10:31] <kronus-> should i up to breezy?
[10:31] <Samy_M> cjhcjhcjh, XP
[10:31] <Hoxzer> I'm trying to compline xine but seems like I can't run it in gnome if I don't install xfree86-devel and I cannot find it in synaptic
[10:31] <coolaj86> Is there a way to upgrade Ubuntu rather than reinstall?
[10:31] <starscalling> /usr/local/jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin: line 445: /usr/share/application-registry/java-archive.applications: Permission denied
[10:31] <pder> UBUNTU HAS NEVER BEEN INSTALLED ON A PERSONAL COMPUTER SYSTEM
[10:31] <HappyFool> kronus-: and locales is not installed?
[10:31] <starscalling> is that going to be a problem? !_!
[10:31] <Wolek> Samy_M, there is a tool in windows xp for converting ntfs into fat32
[10:31] <HappyFool> *sigh*
[10:31] <dash> coolaj86: sure - read the  'upgrading' url in the topic
[10:31] <ProN00b> coolaj86, topic
[10:31] <ajeet> mp3 playing in breezy anyone?
[10:31] <Hoxzer> so what should I do?
[10:31] <kronus-> well, bash can't find it
[10:31] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: http://pastebin.com/393837
[10:32] <Hoxzer> ajeet: yep
[10:32] <starscalling> ajeet:: try xmms
[10:32] <kronus-> and my locales are realyl messed up
[10:32] <starscalling> and restricted formats guide
[10:32] <Samy_M> Wolek, Do you happen to remember what it's called?
[10:32] <coolaj86> dash, pron00b... duh... don't I feel dumb
[10:32] <coolaj86> sorry about that
[10:32] <dash> coolaj86: np :)
[10:32] <starscalling> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:32] <jalvarezrom> hello all
[10:32] <mwe> Hoxzer: xlibs-dev
[10:32] <Wolek> Samy_M, i'm not sure, try "convert" :)
[10:32] <HappyFool> kronus-: 'dpkg -l locales' doesn't list it?
[10:32] <pder> UBUNTU IS NOT DESIGNED FOR PERSONAL MICROCOMPUTER SYSTEMS
[10:32] <Samy_M> Wolek, Okay, thanks. :)
[10:32] <ProN00b> pder, right, all computer systems ubuntu are installed on become weapoings of mad dewstruction
[10:32] <cjhcjhcjh> Samy_M, vcom partition commander,
[10:33] <nicklas> Does NdisWraooer work on amd64?
[10:33] <Kyral> Can I shoot pder?
[10:33] <coolaj86> what's pder's problem?
[10:33] <Belutz> pder, no caps please
[10:33] <jalvarezrom> do you know a util to change automatically wallpapers for gnome?
[10:33] <dash> pder: it's a breakfast cereal, you eat it
[10:33] <pder> !tell Kyral about conduct
[10:33] <dash> jalvarezrom: yes, i wrote one
[10:33] <nicklas> Does NdisWraooer work on amd64?
[10:33] <Kyral> pder I believe you should read that yourself
[10:33] <jrattner1> how do i unload a module
[10:33] <jrattner1> rmmod?
[10:33] <Kyral> jrattner1, I believe so
[10:33] <Wolek> jrattner1, yes
[10:33] <pder> Kyral: violence is against the ubuntu code of conduct
[10:33] <Samy_M> cjhcjhcjh, Don't think I'm gonna splurge $50 just for this one conversion.
[10:34] <kronus-> HappyFool: this is what i get from that, i don't know how to interpret it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bZUVQI64.html
[10:34] <Seveas> pder, shouting in the channel too
[10:34] <dash> jalvarezrom: http://divmod.org/users/washort/ranwp.py
[10:34] <HappyFool> kronus-: can you hang on a moment?
[10:34] <kronus-> aye
[10:34] <HappyFool> siucdude: what is that? the output from the boot?
[10:34] <jalvarezrom> dash, thanks dash
[10:34] <tristanmike> pder, was booted before for innappropriate behaviour
[10:34] <Samy_M> What's really weird is that the junk mail filter in Thunderbird seems to be a LOT more accurate in Ubuntu than in Windows. I don't get it.
[10:34] <dash> jalvarezrom: change BACKGROUND_DIRS to be a list of places you keep your wallpapers
[10:34] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: yes since the new changes
[10:34] <pder> Seveas: you would agree that threatening to shoot someone is worse that typing in an all caps, no?
[10:34] <luckyaba> xine plays fine and then part way through a song it will starts skipping kinnda like its fast forwarding?
[10:34] <Seveas> pder, no
[10:34] <dash> pder: not on IRC
[10:35] <tristanmike> lol
[10:35] <icarus> does anyone know where I can get libqt3c102-mt??
[10:35] <dash> in person, yes. over  the phone, maybe
[10:35] <apokryphos> pder: and irrelevant, nevertheless. Even if it were the "lesser of two evils" it wouldn't in any way justify its necessity
[10:35] <dash> but not on IRC
[10:35] <kevogod> icarus, Trying to install Skype?
[10:35] <apokryphos> icarus: why do you want it? It's obsolete in breezy.
[10:35] <cjhcjhcjh> HappyFool, hope you can see what I was trying to do with the mapping...
[10:35] <dash> So, I'm doing a fresh Breezy install from CD
[10:35] <icarus> kevogod: yup, on breazy :(
[10:35] <Kyral> ....I'm not your dog Seveas...;P
[10:35] <dash> and it's stuck on installing 'installation-report'
[10:35] <pder> i am a bit disturbed that murder is acceptable in the ubuntu community
[10:36] <HappyFool> cjhcjhcjh: not really, sorry ;)
[10:36] <mhz> mukae, do you remember the first time you used a computer?
[10:36] <dash> perl is having some problems with locales
[10:36] <icarus> apokryphos: I need it for skype
[10:36] <frank23> icarus: I used the statically linked skype download
[10:36] <dash> anybody seen this? is this a FAQ? :)
[10:36] <HappyFool> siucdude: so grub outputs part of it's config with the error?
[10:36] <icarus> frank23: where did you get that at?
[10:36] <Seveas> dash, make sure the locales set in /etc/environment are installed
[10:36] <nnonix> !tell pder how to STFU
[10:36] <frank23> icarus: on the skype linux download page
[10:36] <jalvarezrom> dash, I'll need phyton?
[10:36] <Kyral> pder, if I was serious about killing you I wouldn't ask permission ;P
[10:36] <apokryphos> icarus: you could just alter the dependencies on the .deb
[10:36] <mhz> mukae: had you attended a special course? did you know everything you wanted? Every new process needs time and patience.
[10:36] <Bourne> Whats really bad is threatning to shoot someone in caps
[10:36] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: yes when i choose windows i get this display
[10:36] <pder> !tell nnonix about conduct
[10:36] <Fred> what's the format for adding lines to resolv.conf ?
[10:36] <dash> jalvarezrom: yes. but that's already installed, I bet
[10:36] <icarus> apokryphos: how do I do that dude? sorry am a newb
[10:37] <apokryphos> icarus: where is the .deb?
[10:37] <Seveas> !tell nnonix about conduct
[10:37] <dash> Seveas: there is no /etc/environment, this is still in the installer
[10:37] <starscalling> evilmegaman::
[10:37] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, this is all very odd...how did you get to that stage - what was the sequence of the install?
[10:37] <icarus> apokryphos: I deleted it :(
[10:37] <Seveas> dash, eh right... /me gives up then
[10:37] <Fred> what's the format for adding lines to resolv.conf ?
[10:37] <icarus> apokryphos: i'll download it again :D
[10:37] <apokryphos> Seveas: you have working skype debs for breezy?
[10:37] <frank23> apokryphos: icarus I think someone on the forums already created a new dep with appropriate dependancies
[10:37] <Wolek> Fred, do you need to add nameserver ?
[10:37] <Seveas> having a headache, I'm doing only easy quetions today :)
[10:37] <Seveas> apokryphos, yeah
[10:37] <Fred> Wolek: yes
[10:37] <dash> Seveas: anyway, it's en_US.UTF-8
[10:38] <icarus> frank23: really? do you know the url to that forum?
[10:38] <jalvarezrom> dash, Where I have to put it?
[10:38] <cjhcjhcjh> Fred, just servername    1.2.3.4
[10:38] <apokryphos> Seveas: index page broken?
[10:38] <Seveas> apokryphos, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras (the repo stuff is down, the debs not)
[10:38] <Wolek> Fred, just write "nameserver ip_adress"
[10:38] <dash> jalvarezrom: anywhere you like
[10:38] <Fred> thanks cjhcjhcjh, Wolek :D
[10:38] <dash> jalvarezrom: chmod +x it, then run it
[10:38] <apokryphos> Seveas: ok, thanks.
[10:38] <Wolek> where ip_address is your dns
[10:38] <apokryphos> icarus: download and install this: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[10:39] <mc124> hey, can i ask questions about linux in here?
[10:39] <evilmegaman> Starscalling sorry
[10:39] <Kyral> mc124, yes
[10:39] <HappyFool> siucdude: i'm running out of ideas. in my opinion your previous menu.lst should have worked. I don't understand why you get this weird error message
[10:39] <cjhcjhcjh> mc124, you can ask ...
[10:39] <jalvarezrom> dash, ok.
[10:39] <dash> mc124: if it's ubuntu linux :)
[10:39] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: i know its odd,  anyways i had dual boot xp and ubuntu 5.10 then i upgraded to vista for testing(this is my second pc) and then i only had vista booting so i got a live cd of ubuntu and did this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[10:39] <mc124> yeah know that :)
[10:39] <BlankC> Is there a .deb(breezy) for gaim-silc ?
[10:39] <Kyral> "Upgrade" to Vista? More like downgrade...
[10:39] <jrattner1> ndiswrappers wants gcc-3.4 does ubuntu not have gcc-3.4
[10:39] <oris_wolfbane> whats the command to clear the package cache?:
[10:39] <evilmegaman> starscalling, I installed sun java but when I do java --version it is gij...
[10:39] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: and so now i get this error ( i have done this before and never this error)
[10:39] <mc124> k, well i want to be able to read my windows files, how do i access them from ubuntu?
[10:39] <dash> Kyral: Sidegrade!
[10:40] <Rawplayer> hmm my install gives a kernel panic on a promise sataII 150 tx2plus card
[10:40] <HappyFool> siucdude: i really don't know what the problem is, sorry
[10:40] <Kyral> jrattner1, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:40] <Rawplayer> anyone in here got problems with that to?
[10:40] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, would it be a lot of aggro to reinstall ubuntu? I suspect the vista partitioner screwed you up...and suspect that ubuntu would reinstall ok if you delete the partitions
[10:40] <starscalling> exactly that? "java --version" ?
[10:40] <evilmegaman> yes
[10:40] <dash> mc124: hmm. is your windows filesystem NTFS or FAT32?
[10:40] <icarus> apokryphos: thanks man!
[10:40] <evilmegaman> starscalling, yes that is :)
[10:40] <bimberi> oris_wolfbane: apt-get clean
[10:40] <oris_wolfbane> thanxks
[10:41] <bimberi> yw :)
[10:41] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: guys don't worry about it its my test pc,  i will try try to reinstall everything again clean see if i get the same error
[10:41] <starscalling> java -version
[10:41] <starscalling> java version "1.4.2-02"
[10:41] <starscalling> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[10:41] <starscalling> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)
[10:41] <evilmegaman> I used the .bin installer from sun to install java in /usr/java starscalling
[10:41] <mc124> dash: well i have drives with both of those
[10:41] <starscalling> oi sorry guys didnt realize that i did that many lines
[10:41] <starscalling> ok so evilmegaman
[10:41] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, I think its a sequence thing...you know...always install linux LAST coz its sensible enough not to shag up the rest of the oss
[10:41] <starscalling> is that what your trying to get yours to say?
[10:41] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: thank you
[10:41] <mc124> but NTFS is most important i guess
[10:41] <dash> mc124: well, there's software in linux for reading and writing to fat32, but ntfs is read-only at this point
[10:41] <Kyral> !!ntfs
[10:41] <ubotu> No idea, Kyral
[10:41] <evilmegaman> Yessir starscalling
[10:41] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, np; please come back and let us know
[10:41] <starscalling> ok
[10:42] <Kyral> !ntfs
[10:42] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:42] <HappyFool> siucdude: ok. good luck
[10:42] <starscalling> first try one - before version
[10:42] <starscalling> :P
[10:42] <dash> oh hey
[10:42] <evilmegaman> okay..
[10:42] <HappyFool> kronus-: how about 'dpkg -l libc6' ?
[10:42] <dash> ubotu: botsnack
[10:42] <ubotu> thanks dash :)
[10:42] <mc124> dash: thats fine i just want to read my mp3s :P
[10:42] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: almost forgot is there a way to backup ubuntu settings
[10:42] <dash> mc124: cool. the link ubotu just gave then :)
[10:42] <starscalling> then if thats no good follow this link
[10:42] <evilmegaman> same exact thing starscalling
[10:42] <Kyral> !tell mc124 about ntfs
[10:42] <starscalling> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:42] <evilmegaman> java version "1.4.2"
[10:42] <evilmegaman> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[10:42] <starscalling> and click on java bit
[10:42] <evilmegaman> okay :)
[10:43] <starscalling> follow EXACTLY
[10:43] <starscalling> :)
[10:43] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh: since ubuntu works i wanted to backup bookmarks and settings so i can get the same after clean install
[10:43] <starscalling> you need to have fakeroot in and stuff like that
[10:43] <cjhcjhcjh> siucdude, not the easiest q ever ;-) depends what app...most apps write their config to /etc, so a copy of that helps
[10:43] <evilmegaman> Oh
[10:43] <starscalling> :)
[10:43] <HappyFool> siucdude: you could backup /etc and /home, but be careful blindly restoring onto a working install
[10:43] <evilmegaman> So I need to install fakeroot?
[10:44] <siucdude> HappyFool, cjhcjhcjh:  that is what i was thinking just wanted to see if there was a shortcut   thank you again
[10:44] <spola> are there many people who run hoary now and upgrade to breezy? ive got hoary here and its working pretty good, im wodering if i should bother to upgrade
[10:44] <Wolek> hmmm
[10:44] <starscalling> chmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin   >>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common >>>>> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin >>>>> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[10:44] <cjhcjhcjh> copy etc before you kill it...then you can copy back the bits that you find you need
[10:44] <mc124> hmmm ok, bear with me. i'm new to this.. what exaclty do i do with the script?
[10:44] <starscalling> >>>> is step seperator :)
[10:44] <starscalling> holler my nick if you need more help ;)
[10:45] <evilmegaman> okay thanks starscalling
[10:45] <Hoxzer> strange
[10:45] <dash> mc124: read the 'using the script' bit, maybe? :)
[10:45] <mc124> will try that ;)
[10:45] <starscalling> my only confusion is why does it say (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[10:45] <starscalling>  if its 1.5.0.05 or so
[10:45] <starscalling> anyway its in :P
[10:45] <cjhcjhcjh> HappyFool, am now a bit sad coz I thought I knew about bootstraps...stuck with that one tho...maybe a vista thing?
[10:45] <Hoxzer> when I write "make install" after running ./configure the terminal just says "bash: make: command not found"
[10:46] <jbroome> install  make
[10:46] <tristanmike> Hoxzer, "sudo apt-get install make"
[10:46] <starscalling> and do yourself a favor evilmegaman :: " sudo apt-get install bittornado azureus " when your done putting java in :)
[10:46] <shad0w1e> help? How do I add environmental variables, permanently ??
[10:46] <HappyFool> cjhcjhcjh: i really don't know, sorry. very confusing
[10:46] <jalvarezrom> dash, I probe it and work. Yoy know where to put it to change it when I start the system?
[10:46] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: install 'build-essential'
[10:47] <dash> jalvarezrom: hmm? it should be permanent now
[10:47] <evilmegaman> starscalling, do I need a special repository for getting java-package and java-common?
[10:47] <coolaj86> I'm trying to install an app from source (and I've install build-essentials) but it is now complaining that I don't have usb.h. Do I need to install more?
[10:47] <sedatc> hi all
[10:48] <dash> coolaj86: possibly. what's the app?
[10:48] <HappyFool> kronus-: scroll back ;)
[10:48] <bimberi> Hoxzer: also, consider installing and using checkinstall and using it instead of "make install".  It makes uninstalling easier (if ever required)
[10:48] <HappyFool> kronus-: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say ?
[10:48] <Fred> what's the apt-get command to update any newer packages?
[10:48] <coolaj86> dash: scanbuttond
[10:49] <HappyFool> Fred: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:49] <Fred> thanks HappyFool :)
[10:49] <reter> what is the file to get java on your mozilla browsers
[10:49] <JDigital> upgrading now
[10:49] <kronus-> aha
[10:49] <basscr> how do i change enlinghtenment desktop backgrouns ?
[10:50] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital, you and every other person on the net...sigh
[10:50] <kronus-> http://rafb.net/paste/results/a4Y8fz70.html
[10:50] <JDigital> I don't mind, I can only download 40KB/sec anyway
[10:50] <JDigital> er
[10:50] <reter> no one knows how to add java on mozilla browser?
[10:50] <JDigital> I can only download a maximum of 55KB/sec
[10:50] <JDigital> reter: I did it once but I forget how
[10:50] <reter> JDigital, thats helpful
[10:51] <HappyFool> i can only dload at 4KB/sec :P. I'll be installing breezy on sunday at this rate
[10:51] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital, I average 900kbps...tonight,, about same as you!
[10:51] <mwe> reter: ln -s /path/to/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/you/.mozilla/plugins/
[10:51] <JDigital> we are like brethren
[10:51] <HappyFool> kronus-: ah-ha indeed. you have a non-ubuntu glibc
[10:51] <pr1sm> I have multiple sound devices in my computer, could someone please tell me how to select the default
[10:51] <dash> coolaj86: i am guessing you need libusb-dev
[10:51] <HappyFool> kronus-: abandon all hope ye who enter here, etc ;)
[10:51] <cjhcjhcjh> lol
[10:52] <finalplayer> How to make a connection to the internet?
[10:52] <coolaj86> dash: I've been using gentoo where everything for installing from source was there from the get-go. Now I've switched so that my bro and sis can use my PC too. Thanks for your help. I'll try that
[10:52] <kronus-> so...do i panic now?
[10:52] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, I reckon you have one...
[10:52] <Seveas> !tell reter about java
[10:52] <finalplayer> yes
[10:52] <_ShoGo_> Hi all
[10:52] <finalplayer> I'm in Windows nox
[10:52] <finalplayer> *now
[10:52] <HappyFool> kronus-: i'm not sure what the one true fix is, but you can try forcing an install of the ubuntu glibc
[10:52] <reter> mwe no such file or directory
[10:52] <finalplayer> i want to connect while in Linux
[10:52] <_ShoGo_> Im a spanish ubuntu user... and i need help with ati graphics accelerator
[10:52] <Seveas> pr1sm, system -> prefs -> sound
[10:53] <kronus-> HappyFool: how do i do that?
[10:53] <apokryphos> reter: if you get the deb it'll put everything in the appropriate place. /msg ubotu javadebs
[10:53] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, ubuntu should be al lnice and connected from install, no probs...try ping cisco.com - if you get a response, your on the net
[10:53] <_ShoGo_> Anyone help me please, send me a query
[10:53] <dash> _ShoGo_: just ask
[10:53] <dash> _ShoGo_: also, there is #ubuntu-es
[10:53] <_ShoGo_> dash, it is too long to explain here
[10:53] <mc124> dash: thanx a lot, easier than i thought :)
[10:53] <HappyFool> kronus-: something like 'sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14'   -- this is a big guess! maybe ask Seveas or someone more knowledgeable first
[10:53] <finalplayer> I'm running from the Live CD, is it possible that this is the reason for my problem?
[10:54] <coolaj86> dash: that worked great. For future reference, how can I tell which package I need to install to get a certain file?
[10:54] <pr1sm> seveas, thankyou
[10:54] <mwe> reter: substitute /path/to with the right path to jre and /home/you with /home/<your user name>
[10:54] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, youd be suprised...have a go at explaining it briefly here
[10:54] <ThomasM> Hrm. Trying to sync stuff up with my webserver.  It works fine if I type in the password, but setting RSYNC_PASSWORD or using --password-file fail.  What am I missing?
[10:54] <ThomasM> It doesn't tell me it fails, though.  It just asks for my password, which is what rsync does if I type in the wrong password, anyway, so I'm making a bit of an assumption.
[10:54] <_ShoGo_> Ok, i will try
[10:54] <mc124> and thanx to the others that helped
[10:54] <kronus-> HappyFool : that worked, i think
[10:54] <dash> coolaj86: well, i cheated a little, i did "dpkg -S /usr/include/usb.h" and dpkg told me where i installed it from :)
[10:54] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, what is the specific problem?
[10:54] <kronus-> it still gave teh errors about locales
[10:54] <kronus-> how do i fix those?
[10:54] <alsyr> ColonelKernel: using another graphics card. works fine now. thanks.
[10:54] <dash> coolaj86: but in general, -dev packages have the includes and so forth for shared libs
[10:54] <HappyFool> kronus-: install locales now?
[10:54] <kronus-> aha
[10:54] <kronus-> right
[10:55] <_ShoGo_> I can't edit xorg.conf with the new config.. it gives me an error like byte sequence us unvalid for the conversion entrance...
[10:55] <finalplayer> I don't know how to connect my computer to the internet
[10:55] <_ShoGo_> I have tried to translate properly
[10:55] <HappyFool> kronus-: in fact, you might want to install ubuntu-base to get things 'right' again
[10:55] <finalplayer> I suppose I have to configure something to establish my connectiobn
[10:55] <_ShoGo_> Anyone can help me please?
[10:55] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, you are booting the live cd? and does firefox not work - the web browser, that is?
[10:55] <ubuntu_> hello :)
[10:56] <kronus-> ok, locales and localeconf are installed
[10:56] <finalplayer> indeed
[10:56] <kronus-> run both?
[10:56] <bimberi> kronus-: my upgrade gave lots of locales related warnings, it didn't stop the process and once the locales package got reconfigured they stopped
[10:56] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  did you use sudo gedit? or su? you need to be root to edit that file
[10:56] <HappyFool> kronus-: well, try the perl thing again
[10:56] <barnes_> Can anyone help me connect to the internet on ubuntu? I'm having trouble.
[10:56] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  yes, im logued as root..
[10:56] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, and what happens when you try to connect?
[10:56] <dash> barnes_: what's up
[10:57] <spola> i can just run dist-upgrade from a terminal on my desktop?
[10:57] <finalplayer> Firefox "tells" me it's not able to find the pae
[10:57] <finalplayer> *page
[10:57] <cjhcjhcjh> _shogo_ why are you editing it?
[10:57] <coolaj86> dash: `dpkg -S /path/to/file` is just the cheat I'm looking for
[10:57] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, my guide to configure mi ati graphics accelerator asks me to do tha
[10:57] <barnes_> dash: I'm using a d-link dwl 520, andI can not get it to connect to the internet.
[10:57] <_ShoGo_> *that
[10:57] <kronus-> sseems to not complain anymore, thanks
[10:57] <HappyFool> spola: should work, assuming you've setup sources.list correctly
[10:57] <dash> coolaj86: only works if it's installed though :)
[10:57] <HappyFool> kronus-: ok. as i said, maybe install ubuntu-base to get things back to normal
[10:58] <HappyFool> kronus-: and check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, ok...so you have a new graphics card?    Did it work before?
[10:58] <ompaul> spola, read this before you do and then all will be known http://tinyurl.com/dkllj
[10:58] <dash> barnes_: which kind of internet?
[10:58] <barnes_> cable wireless.
[10:58] <ompaul> !tell barnes_ about wireless
[10:58] <reter> how do i put this in sources http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[10:58] <spola> yeah i was following that :-p
[10:58] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, can you connect using a different operating system on the same computer?
[10:58] <ompaul> barnes_, read the message from ubotu
[10:58] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, i have a new linux... i have been windows xp user until 6 days ago :))
[10:58] <HappyFool> cable wireless sounds like an oxymoron ;)
[10:59] <apokryphos> reter: you don't
[10:59] <finalplayer> cjhcjhcjh: yes
[10:59] <finalplayer> i have a DSL connection
[10:59] <_ShoGo_> The card works... The matter is that i can't play 3d games.. properly
[10:59] <sampan> pppoeconf?
[10:59] <finalplayer> but i have to establish it manually
[10:59] <trevis> can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?
[10:59] <bimberi> HappyFool: lol
[10:59] <finalplayer> it's not a permanent connection
[10:59] <barnes_> ompaul: I found mine on there, and there is a howtoo link for it, but that dosn't work at all.
[10:59] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer are you using that machine now, or a differnet one? ie do you have access to the booted livecd ubuntu as we speak?
[10:59] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea how to get java-package? I can't find that package with apt-get or adept :-/
[10:59] <sedatc> I installed an deb package after I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive fiel
[10:59] <trevis> i isntalled them like it says on the wiki page, but it tells me "no screens found"
[10:59] <dash> HappyFool: it's the cable that isn't a cable
[11:00] <finalplayer> cjhcjhcjh: no
[11:00] <dash> happyfool or a wireless connection to something connected to a cable
[11:00] <sampan> finalplayer, i had to run pppoeconf once to config my dsl connection
[11:00] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, then, can u help me?
[11:00] <cjhcjhcjh> _Shogo_ so ubuntu only gives you a command prompt? You cannot get the graphic interface?
[11:00] <evilmegaman> oh where is the ubuntu extra repositories and multiverse for breezy?
[11:00] <finalplayer> where can i put my isp information and such?
[11:00] <bimberi> evilmegaman: it's in the multiverse repository
[11:00] <_ShoGo_> Umm, can i open a query with u cjhcjhcjh ?
[11:00] <kevogod> Will Dapper Drake have a PPTP/VPN client?
[11:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell evilmegaman about repositories
[11:00] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, no to which q...are you on the same pc now?
[11:01] <pder> UBUNTU ARE NOT RUN ON COMPUTER
[11:01] <HappyFool> *sigh*
[11:01] <apokryphos> pder: drop the caps
[11:01] <trevis> where can i find the source for the 2.6.12-9 kernel?
[11:01] <_ShoGo_> evilmegaman, in the official page surely
[11:01] <evilmegaman> thanks bimberi :)
[11:01] <kevogod> And I mean, one with a GUI front-end that works well.
[11:01] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, ask here...its likely someone else will solve the problem,,.,but maybe I can help to define it
[11:01] <bimberi> evilmegaman: yw :)
[11:01] <pder> !tell HappyFool about conduct
[11:01] <apokryphos> pder: please stop being annoying
[11:01] <_ShoGo_> Umm, it is hard to explain in english
[11:01] <_ShoGo_> Ok, i 'll try
[11:01] <HappyFool> trevis: linux-source-2.6.12 -- but you probably want linux-headers-386 (or -686, or something)
[11:01] <finalplayer> cjhcjhcjh: i have to switch to the OS, it's OR Ubuntu OR Windows (one pc available)
[11:01] <pder> !tell apokryphos about conduct
[11:02] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, ok, gotcha...just trying to clarify what we can try here.
[11:02] <sedatc> I installed an deb package. After I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive file.How can I handle this
[11:02] <_ShoGo_> My guide asks me to install some ... modules and then edit xorg.conf, to change and add some values
[11:02] <Juhaz> I guess he forgot to tell himself about conduct...
[11:02] <_ShoGo_> And it doesn't let me save them
[11:02] <trevis> HappyFool, im using it for the nvidia driver installation script, form nvidia's website
[11:03] <ompaul> barnes_, if I understood you you can't get to that web page?
[11:03] <HappyFool> trevis: you want linux-headers-386
[11:03] <ompaul> barnes_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E1
[11:03] <HappyFool> trevis: what does uname -r say?
[11:03] <dash> _ShoGo_: what are you editing it with?
[11:03] <_ShoGo_> gedit
[11:03] <dash> hm
[11:03] <_ShoGo_> hm?
[11:03] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer to be honest the bootable version will be hard to troubleshoot...if you install the "real" version...we migth have a chance.....folks here, correct me if I am wrong - can anyone troubleshoot the liveCD?
[11:03] <dash> i wonder if there's some charset problem?
[11:03] <evilmegaman> bimberi, on this page: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 , do I add the last repository?
[11:04] <astroman> l
[11:04] <JDigital_> Augh! Where's the idiot who told me that 500MB free space was enough to upgrade Hoary?
[11:04] <JDigital_> It's failed halfway through!
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> dash,  what is charset??
[11:04] <sedatc> I installed an deb package. After I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive file.How can I handle this
[11:04] <JDigital_> Now I have zero space
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> I'll paste the error wait
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> Unmatched element: citerefentry
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> Unmatched element: refentrytitle
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> The terminal says that..
[11:05] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  can you save the file under a different name?
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  i will try wait
[11:05] <dash> sedatc: usually "apt-get update" will help with that
[11:05] <jrattner1> What is thiis /uisr/share/ubuntu artwork error and how do i fix it
[11:05] <JDigital_> I had 580MB free and even that was not enough
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> I can
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> I can't
[11:05] <Eppu> JDigital: try removing everyting from /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:05] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital_, too much pr0n, too little time, eh?
[11:05] <Eppu> everything
[11:06] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: what card is it?
[11:06] <barnes_> ompaul: I got that page, Ijust don't undersatand it, it dosn't owrk for me.
[11:06] <ompaul> JDigital_, paste the output of >fdisk -l< in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:06] <_ShoGo_> ati radeon 9600
[11:06] <JDigital_> You can never have too much pron
[11:06] <synd> What repos do I need for Limewire?
[11:06] <synd> It's not showing up
[11:06] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: are you following the instructions on the wiki?
[11:06] <JDigital_> I can't paste. I'm using irssi via PuTTY because "ssh" never worked on my machine and xchat won't start any more
[11:06] <_ShoGo_> im following the instructions on ubuntu-es
[11:06] <_ShoGo_> :))
[11:07] <starscalling> >.>
[11:07] <WildBill> whiprush, ping! :)
[11:07] <HappyFool> !tell _ShoGo_ about ati
[11:07] <ompaul> barnes_, I do not have your hardware and so can't test it, but saying you don't understand it gives me a clue :) maybe you need help translating the instructions on that page - where do you start to have an issue
[11:07] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: take a look at that page on the wiki
[11:07] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, you cannot save the file as something else?
[11:07] <JDigital_> Hm, what's the trick you use to have the files download to another place?
[11:07] <JDigital_> I know it's a symlink but I forget where
[11:07] <cjhcjhcjh> Maybe _ShoGo_  has a simple permissions problem
[11:07] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  i can't. I have just tried to save it with a differente name
[11:07] <borgista> JDigital: which program?
[11:07] <_ShoGo_> No, im logued as root cjhcjhcjh
[11:07] <Eppu> JDigital: symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to another directory
[11:07] <JDigital_> Synaptic.
[11:08] <StarKruzr> whiprush is here?
[11:08] <JDigital_> How do I do that again?
[11:08] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, can you save it to a different directory?
[11:08] <StarKruzr> as in Ars Technica whiprush?
[11:08] <bozel> how can i program with gcc?
[11:08] <borgista> JDigital, just use wget instead of Synaptic.
[11:08] <StarKruzr> holy shit.
[11:08] <JDigital_> Not a chance.
[11:08] <whiprush> StarKruzr: yeah
[11:08] <borgista> JDigital: use apt-get to only download the file.
[11:08] <whiprush> WildBill: yo
[11:08] <StarKruzr> hey man.  small Interweb.
[11:08] <barnes_> ompaul: I try to extract the host ap source, and it says it dosn't exisit. I use the same code they have in it.I have the hostap driver on a disk, but IU don't kknow if that will help.
[11:08] <synd> What repos do I need for Limewire?
[11:08] <synd> It's not showing up
[11:08] <whiprush> heh
[11:08] <apokryphos> synd: it's not in any repository; get it from their site.
[11:08] <borgista> synd: I think you need to install it yourself.
[11:09] <WildBill> hey whiprush -- got a sec to go PM?
[11:09] <JDigital_> How do I symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to anotehr directory
[11:09] <whiprush> yeah
[11:09] <synd> Bleh. It used to be.
[11:09] <StarKruzr> not that I've been on isis in a while, but stil
[11:09] <apokryphos> JDigital_: man ln
[11:09] <cjhcjhcjh> synd, I give up, tell me, what repos do you need for Limewire?
[11:09] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  wait..
[11:09] <StarKruzr> l
[11:09] <JDigital_> ok
[11:09] <synd> IIRC.
[11:09] <jrattner1> How can i reverse the ndiswrapper -m step
[11:09] <whiprush> StarKruzr: me either
[11:09] <borgista> ln -s /var/cache/apt/archives /other/directory
[11:09] <StarKruzr> which reminds me.
[11:09] <JDigital_> thanks
[11:09] <synd> cjhcjhcjh: Hush.
[11:09] <sedatc> dash : it doesnt help
[11:09] <Eppu> JDigital: remove the directory with rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives and then ln -s /some/other/place /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:09] <jrattner1> ubotu tell cjhcjhcjh  about limewire
[11:09] <JDigital_> Will it matter if /other/directory is FAT32?
[11:10] <apokryphos> JDigital_: nope
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, have you enabled universe in the repos?
[11:10] <apokryphos> JDigital_: as long as you can write to it and it's properly mounted
[11:10] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  I can't
[11:10] <poimen> hi
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, did you understand my question?
[11:10] <JDigital_> Wait, is /var/cache/apt/archives the first or second parameter?
[11:10] <reter> ok i downloaded the java files...how do i install them?
[11:10] <barnes_> ompaul: Do you mean changing to the root? I did that.
[11:10] <poimen> I have downloaded ubuntu 5.10 and also kubuntu 5.10
[11:10] <apokryphos> reter: dpkg -i somepackage.deb
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, no I did not mean that
[11:10] <apokryphos> poimen: congrats
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, this is going to take some time
[11:10] <poimen> I downloaded both and burned the isos upto speed in my 40x cd-rw and I get in both a error in the install
[11:11] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  ok, so you are editing a text file, and you can not save it anywhere? e.g. /home/username???
[11:11] <jrattner1> modprobe config already contains alias directive  How do i remove this alias
[11:11] <_ShoGo_> Yes, I have tried /home/shogo
[11:11] <HappyFool> does anyone know where i can find out more about the ubuntu 'server edition' breezy cd ?
[11:11] <barnes_> ompaul: Yeah, I noticed. This is my first time converting to linux.
[11:11] <poimen> should I burn it at a low speed?
[11:11] <Eppu> JDigital: the second
[11:11] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  which editor are you using?
[11:11] <_ShoGo_> gedit
[11:11] <JDigital_> ok
[11:11] <_ShoGo_> Sorry about my english ok ? I'm doing my best :))
[11:11] <ompaul> barnes_, msg me please and I will go through this one step at a time, this channel is too busy
[11:11] <penguin42> hmm - 3h35m to go - me thinks I'll leave this dist-upgrade to go overnight - its times like this when I wish I had a faster DSL
[11:12] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  no problem....
[11:12] <bozel> how can i use gcc?
[11:12] <cjhcjhcjh> ...anyone know why someone editing a text file in gedit would be unable to save it to their home dir?
[11:12] <bozel> is it installed in default?
[11:12] <penguin42> bozel: gcc myprog.c -o myprog
[11:12] <HappyFool> bozel: well, first install 'build-essential'
[11:12] <starscalling> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:12] <starscalling>  msttcorefonts
[11:12] <starscalling> enyc: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:12] <starscalling>  <<<--- er huh? what would that mean?
[11:12] <trevis> how can i make apt-get use a different server?
[11:12] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: try with nano instead?
[11:12] <JDigital_> Uh oh. Synaptic doesn't seem to want to start.
[11:12] <borgista> trevis: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:13] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  -- shouldn't be too hard to use
[11:13] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, Was this text file opened up from a resource outside of the home directory?
[11:13] <_ShoGo_> HappyFool, the web you gave me is for installing ati official drivers, isn't it?
[11:13] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, yes
[11:13] <_ShoGo_> I know nano, i'm gonna try
[11:13] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, Well, then the user most likely does not have writes to edit the file.
[11:13] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: well, for installing ubuntu-packaged ati drivers
[11:13] <sam_> Is it possible to write to an NTFS disk?
[11:13] <JDigital_> "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:13] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, *rights
[11:13] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, would that stop him saving it elsewhere?
[11:13] <_ShoGo_> I'm trying to install it with ubuntu drivers... ati drivers are bad..
[11:14] <JDigital_> Ugh, I should have known better than to listen to random goofs on IRC.
[11:14] <dash> sam_: not easily, or safely
[11:14] <Eppu> JDigital: try upgrading with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:14] <sam_> I think I'm gonna have to do a fresh breezy install... so it would be nice if I could temporarily store stuff on the NTFS partition.
[11:14] <dash> JDigital_: IRC knows everything
[11:14] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, It shouldn't.
[11:14] <HappyFool> JDigital_: you running breezy?
[11:14] <JDigital_> Yes, but it also knows incorrect things
[11:14] <dash> JDigital_: that's part of everything!
[11:14] <fluvvell> does anyone know when the full version of Breezy is due out?
[11:14] <JDigital_> I'm upgrading to it
[11:14] <HappyFool> JDigital_: cos my synaptic doesn't link to cairo (i'm still on hoary)
[11:14] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, which makes me think the problem is not what it appears to be
[11:14] <dash> fluvvell: yes!
[11:14] <JDigital_> fluvvell: yesterday
[11:14] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, As long as you are able to view the file, you should able to save it somewhere you have rights to.
[11:14] <fluvvell> woo hoo!
[11:15] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, sure
[11:15] <JDigital_> It crashed in the middle of upgrading because I ran out of disk space
[11:15] <dash> JDigital_: wow, that's special
[11:15] <JDigital_> Someone on IRC told me ~500MB would be ebough
[11:15] <JDigital_> enough
[11:15] <dash> enough for what?
[11:15] <JDigital_> temp disk space to upgrade
[11:15] <dash> JDigital_: from what?
[11:15] <JDigital_> I had 580MB free
[11:15] <JDigital_> Hoary -> Breezy
[11:15] <HappyFool> he did a dist-upgrade
[11:15] <JDigital_> with synaptic
[11:15] <HappyFool> well, the synaptic equivalent ('smart upgrade', i guess)
[11:15] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital_, depends what apps you have...YMMV
[11:15] <penguin42> JDigital: I think it depends what you have installed, its downloading 651MB for me
[11:15] <dash> JDigital_: oh. yeah, i would doubt that
[11:16] <bozel> how can i search a file?
[11:16] <bozel> in the terminal?
[11:16] <JDigital_> It downloaded more than 500Mb but less than 580MB
[11:16] <HappyFool> bozel: use grep. grep 'a string to search for' filename.txt
[11:16] <cjhcjhcjh> bozel, cat <file> |fgrep something
[11:16] <JDigital_> but in unpacking and such it used up more space
[11:17] <penguin42> JDigital: Yeh - its a bit close to the wind, I'd say you want a good 100MB more than its going to download
[11:17] <cjhcjhcjh> bozel, or vi <file>    to edit, then forward-slash something
[11:17] <bozel> no
[11:17] <JDigital_> I didn't have much space to begin with
[11:17] <bozel> i want to find a file in a directory
[11:17] <steal> hi all
[11:17] <IcemanV9> JDigital_: try 'sudo apt-get autoclean' - hope it'll clean up some space
[11:17] <HappyFool> bozel: use 'locate'
[11:17] <cjhcjhcjh> bozel ls -lR |fgrep name
[11:17] <JDigital_> Unable to read /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> well nano let me save it
[11:18] <jrattner1> my system locks up every time ii modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:18] <HappyFool> e.g., 'locate synaptic'
[11:18] <JDigital_> which may bec because I deleted that.
[11:18] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  cool, ok now?
[11:18] <ui> how do i copy some files to another  carpet ? with the terminal
[11:18] <ricardo> ola
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> HappyFool,  and cjhcjhcjh  thanks
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, I hope that
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> Im gonna finish the instructions and then see
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> Thanks all
[11:18] <guru54> anyone know how to fix this error? usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted , Im using ubuntu 5.10 and gnomad2 2.8.0 ?
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> I g2g for dinner
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> See u soon :D:D
[11:18] <cjhcjhcjh> ui err...carpet?
[11:18] <ricardo> what I have to do to instal emacs on ubuntu??
[11:18] <JDigital_> Now synaptic won't open because it already deleted the old libcairo.so.2
[11:18] <HappyFool> ui: another carpet? you may need a warp/woof filesystem driver ... ;)
[11:18] <JDigital_> or so I assume
[11:18] <IcemanV9> guru54: sudo
[11:18] <Eppu> JDigital_: you might want to try series of partial upgrades. Pick one package install it with apt-get install package and remove everything from /var/cache/apt/archives/ after that
[11:18] <JDigital_> I didn't get a manual with htis
[11:19] <ui> what i want to do is this
[11:19] <bytecoder> ouch
[11:19] <ui> sudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/ /home/olaff/Desktop/gaim/
[11:19] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital_, pr0n usually zips quite well ;-)
[11:19] <starscalling> hey im having trouble with the msttcorefonts package:
[11:19] <bytecoder> my hoary install got completely b0rked by apt-get
[11:19] <starscalling> all of the links for the fonts time out
[11:19] <ui> what is wrong in it?
[11:19] <steal> do you know how can i install my lexmark x1170 multifunction ???
[11:19] <starscalling> would anyone know where one could get those?
[11:19] <JDigital_> I didn't have any pron on this drive.
[11:19] <JDigital_> It's all on my other partition.
[11:19] <JDigital_> :)
[11:19] <guru54> IcemanV9, how do i do that with gnomad2 ?
[11:19] <JDigital_> Oh wow.
[11:19] <steal> the printer work well but the scanner...
[11:19] <steal> i don't have any idea
[11:19] <HappyFool> ui: try   'cp -R /usr/share/pixmaps/* /home/olaff/Desktop/gaim/'
[11:19] <JDigital_> apt-get installing anything gives me a millionty unmet dependencies
[11:20] <Eppu> JDigital_: pick one of the dependencies and install that first
[11:20] <IcemanV9> guru54: Operation not permitted -> means you need to use 'sudo'
[11:20] <rdario_mx> BACK
[11:20] <synd> Any way to install an RPM?
[11:20] <bozel> i have installed gcc, but if i press "gcc" it says "command not found"
[11:20] <bozel> what to do?
[11:20] <fluvvell> can anyone explain the root priveliges system to me? I cant sudo anymore or run update-manager and I need to figure out why
[11:20] <HappyFool> bozel: did you install 'build-essential' ?
[11:21] <bytecoder> fluvvell, sudo allows you to run stuff as root
[11:21] <fluvvell> I've been a mandrake user in the past
[11:21] <HappyFool> !tell fluvvell about root
[11:21] <bytecoder> fluvvell, but it doesn't actually log in as root
[11:21] <guru54> ah ok thx IcemanV9  i got it to work
[11:21] <HappyFool> fluvvell: that wiki page will tell you quite a bit about it
[11:21] <bytecoder> root has no password on a default ubuntu system
[11:21] <bozel> no
[11:21] <bozel> i try
[11:21] <bytecoder> grr
[11:21] <bytecoder> and now I can't even mount the partition from the live cd
[11:22] <bytecoder> this sucks
[11:22] <IcemanV9> :)
[11:22] <fluvvell> HappyFool: Thanks, reading now
[11:22] <bytecoder> EXT2-fs: hda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[11:22] <cjhcjhcjh> synd sudo rpm -i packagename
[11:22] <FliesLikeADesk> why do i get a segmentation fault when i try to run a program i just installed from apt?
[11:22] <bytecoder> FliesLikeABrick, something's screwed up
[11:22] <HappyFool> cjhcjhcjh: on an ubuntu system? ;)
[11:22] <bytecoder> FliesLikeABrick, unless the name of the program is "seg-fault"
[11:22] <FliesLikeADesk> thanks bytecoder , didn't know that
[11:22] <bozel> thx 2 HappyFool, now its working
[11:22] <bozel> :)
[11:22] <FliesLikeADesk> .
[11:22] <bytecoder> :)
[11:23] <bytecoder> happy to help
[11:23] <bytecoder> hehe
[11:23] <bytecoder> it might be the program
[11:23] <bytecoder> it might be apt-get
[11:23] <bytecoder> that's what happens when you're too vague
[11:23] <cjhcjhcjh> HappyFool, ahh...ok...on mine
[11:23] <bytecoder> if that's all you know, you need to find out more
[11:23] <bytecoder> you can't expect people to read your mind
[11:23] <JDigital_> Okay, back to playing Gameboy
[11:24] <bytecoder> cjhcjhcjh, they do
[11:24] <Frem> Has anyone seen Ubuntu Lite? I love the concept, but it looks really, really alphaish.
[11:24] <JDigital_> If you beat Metroid quick enough I hear you get Samus in a bathing suit
[11:24] <cjhcjhcjh> lol
[11:24] <kronus-> o.0
[11:24] <bytecoder> she's my girlfriend, you know
[11:24] <bytecoder> samus
[11:24] <dandel> grr... i got my network working but when i launch it i wind up stuck disabling my interface so i can login to gnome :|
[11:25] <bytecoder> dandel, don't use gnome, then?
[11:25] <bytecoder> sigh
[11:25] <dandel> it's what is used by default by ubuntu
[11:25] <bytecoder> I'll try and mount my home directory
[11:25] <bytecoder> can you launch vanilla X?
[11:25] <bytecoder> err
[11:25] <cjhcjhcjh> ok, is 6'30AM, time to get coffee and donuts...bbl
[11:25] <bytecoder> run
[11:26] <bytecoder> oh ffs
[11:26] <Ekibyougami> wee, it only took me about 2 hours to get my wireless working correctly
[11:26] <bytecoder> I can't even mount my home directory's partition
[11:26] <bytecoder> e
[11:26] <bytecoder> Ekibyougami, lucky
[11:26] <bytecoder> oh!
[11:26] <Ekibyougami> broadcom is the evil
[11:27] <bytecoder> I'll pass the init=/bin/sh option the the kernel and boot off the partition
[11:27] <bytecoder> that way I can actually fix X!
[11:27] <bytecoder> yay!
[11:27] <bytecoder> bye
[11:27] <bytecoder> oh, and the default window border is ugly, by the way
[11:27] <bytecoder> at least in the breezy live cd
[11:27] <bytecoder> bye
[11:27] <[LethAL] > Ekibyougami, I use a broadcom-based router... reliable here, I just hate the rt2570-based wireless adapter
[11:28] <Ekibyougami> my laptop came with a pci wireless card
[11:28] <leted> mini pci?
[11:28] <Ekibyougami> wich of course doesnt have a gpl driver
[11:28] <woodwizzle> I'm trying to install breezy on a desktop, but its not detecting any ethernet cards. I have a netgear wg311 v3 pci G wireless card installed though :(
[11:28] <leted> or pmcia?
[11:28] <cjhcjhcjh> hmm...gambatte
[11:28] <Ekibyougami> mini pci
[11:28] <borgista> woodwizzle: my card wasn't detected until after installation.
[11:29] <synd> What's the cmd to install a .deb?
[11:29] <[LethAL] > !tell synd about dpkg
[11:29] <dooglus> sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>
[11:29] <borgista> dpkg -i *.deb
[11:29] <woodwizzle> borgista, ah so I should just continue on through then? Ok, i'll try that
[11:29] <synd> Ah. Thanks. I have a terrible mem.
[11:29] <borgista> Yes woodwizzle.
[11:29] <bettong_BOFH> ok i need help
[11:29] <lampshade> synd:  Is that a debian .deb or one for Ubuntu?
[11:29] <borgista> woodwizzle: then configure with wireless-tools such as: iwconfig
[11:29] <Ekibyougami> patriot ram = terrible mem =x
[11:30] <bettong_BOFH> i installed ndswrapper and tryed to get my wlan0 card to run and it won't no matter what i do
[11:30] <lampshade> synd:  Just reminding that although they can work back and forth they are guaranteed to
[11:30] <dooglus> the channel's full of jokers tonight! :)
[11:30] <bettong_BOFH> can someone please help me
[11:30] <Ekibyougami> bettong, i just got done doing that on mine
[11:30] <stpere> someone know what I should look for... I'm using ndiswrapper, it says driver present, hardware present... but once the module is loaded, I can't change the essid with iwconfig
[11:30] <bettong_BOFH> can you help me?
[11:30] <Ekibyougami> wich driver does your card use?
[11:30] <stpere> no error message, just no changing
[11:30] <kronus-> does apache need anything to work with mysql?
[11:30] <kronus-> and vice versa
[11:31] <Ekibyougami> kronus, check out http://apachefriends.org
[11:31] <stpere> I tried the demo version of driverloader (from linuxant) and it works fine with the same ndis driver
[11:31] <kronus-> ya, been there
[11:31] <Ekibyougami> stpere, do sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:31] <Ekibyougami> and then try to change it
[11:31] <azique> can somebody pleeaase tell me, how to change the mentioned config.mk to fit Ubuntu? :D -> http://pastebin.com/393915
[11:31] <stpere> nice, let me try
[11:31] <HappyFool> kronus-: i think you need some other glue bit (php, perl, python...)
[11:32] <kronus-> well, i already ahve php installed
[11:32] <Ekibyougami> i just use xampp
[11:32] <HappyFool> kronus-: i think there's a mysql php package
[11:32] <Ekibyougami> since it has apache mysql, php and all that jazz
[11:32] <kronus-> but in the ubuntu wiki, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=ApachePHPMySQL, it says i need a mmod_auth for apache
[11:32] <HappyFool> kronus-: php4-mysql, at a guess
[11:32] <fluvvell> HappyFool: Thanks for the pointer, I made one mistake - I changed my default group to a shared one and it altered all my priveleges.  I couldn't sudo.  So I've sorted it out, made myself a member of admin and was able to access the user and group mod stuff again.
[11:33] <HappyFool> fluvvell: cool
[11:33] <DaSkreech> can I install luminocity in Ubuntu?
[11:33] <synd> lampshade: It's a RPM converted to DEB
[11:33] <kronus-> however, i installed apache 1.3, not apache2, so there's no mod_auth module
[11:33] <pinucset> amarok project needs money. Please consider giving them a little donation. Down-right in http://amarok.kde.org/
[11:33] <dandel> bytecoder, so you say get kde?
[11:33] <HappyFool> kronus-: ah. maybe just use apache2 ;)
[11:33] <[LethAL] > Maybe when it gets a GTK2 interface pinucset :P
[11:34] <kronus-> i had a prob with it
[11:34] <jackmacokc> help!  my breezy install will not boot after initial install, i think it has to do with my PCI nvidia card
[11:34] <stpere> still nothing
[11:34] <kronus-> apache2 disliked its own control module
[11:35] <lampshade> synd:  I don't know in that case.  I just wanted to mention the other thing though because I've seen people complain that Ubuntu sucks because it rejected debian .debs  which is stupid since Ubuntu never said they will work.  If they do you got lucky not because they are really supposed to.
[11:35] <stpere> iwlist does see my AP
[11:35] <captevil-two> What's a good, GTK2 frontend for mplayer? gmplayer looks kind of ugly.
[11:35] <fredforfaen> does anybody here have exoerience with phpsysinfo?
[11:35] <HappyFool> kronus-: my impression is that ubuntu's standard http server is apache2; i'd persevere with that
[11:35] <starscalling> bingo!
[11:36] <lampshade> I feel a netsplit
[11:36] <starscalling> so if i have the source fonts for msttcorefonts how can i put them in my system so that it can run it?
[11:36] <Ekibyougami> stpere, what i did was dissabled using ifdown, then rebooted, set it all up in iwconfig, used iwconfig commit
[11:36] <synd> lampshade: I'm aware. Been using Ubuntu since Warty :)
[11:36] <Ekibyougami> rebooted again and then set up the essid
[11:36] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> How would I get Wobbly windows?
[11:36] <HappyFool> spambots, i reckon
[11:36] <starscalling> the package is broken atm as the dling from sourceforge bit the links time out
[11:36] <kronus-> spam?
[11:36] <synd> lampshade: There are many people out there that judge Ubuntu unfairly.
[11:36] <kronus-> yeah, spambots
[11:36] <[LethAL] > Yup
[11:36] <stpere> Ekibyougami, ok, I will try that iwconfig commit
[11:36] <lampshade> synd:  yeah, like I said I ran into a guy like that just a few days ago
[11:37] <[LethAL] > !ops
[11:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[11:37] <pupil> [LethAL] , Hey , how are yah !
[11:37] <jackmacokc> jesus..cant someone do something about spam bots
[11:37] <jrattner1> Why does my entire system lock up when modprobing ndiswrappers even though ndiswrapper detects the driver and hardware?
[11:37] <[LethAL] > jackmacokc, I just did
[11:37] <lee> lame...
[11:37] <jackmacokc> you sure lethal? this is ridiculous
[11:37] <Seveas> return of the spamcrap
[11:37] <HappyFool> *yay*
[11:37] <jackmacokc> there we go
[11:37] <[LethAL] > See :)
[11:37] <jackmacokc> thanks
[11:37] <jackmacokc> that was brutal
[11:38] <dandel> hmm
[11:38] <azique> hach, no one there who knows how to configure that PCMCIA-driver? :(
[11:38] <[LethAL] > (!)ops > spambots
[11:38] <pupil> [LethAL] , I have a P133 system with like 64mb edo ram.  I want to put linux on it,. I tried installing ubuntu server ,. but it didnt even get to that point
[11:38] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[11:38] <dandel> wtf.... synaptic keeps having segmentatino faults
[11:38] <[LethAL] > pupil, Use a smaller distro
[11:38] <jackmacokc> anyone know of problems with PCI graphics in breezy?
[11:38] <[LethAL] > dandel, purge it and apt-get it again
[11:38] <nalioth> pupil: try damn small linux
[11:39] <pupil> [LethAL] , what I mean is,. when I put in the cd,. it tried to boot from the cd,. but all I saw was the cursur blinking, and nothing happened.
[11:39] <Ekibyougami> or SOL
[11:39] <pupil> nalioth, I have damn small,. does it use apt-get?
[11:39] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have luminocity running on Ubunut?
[11:39] <nalioth> pupil: it is debian based, yes
[11:39] <[LethAL] > Odd, no idea pupil
[11:40] <Ekibyougami> i think DS has apt-get
[11:40] <pupil> [LethAL] , I've used it before,. I couldnt remember if it used apt-get,.
[11:40] <pupil> nalioth, I have also tried feather linux
[11:41] <pupil> nalioth, what I'm curious about is if a default install will detect and install my network card.. its wireless g card
[11:41] <Ekibyougami> depends on the chipset pupil
[11:41] <pupil> Ekibyougami, same thing nalioth said.
[11:41] <Ekibyougami> do you know what chipset it uses?
[11:41] <pupil> I gotta go check., .. i'm lazy
[11:41] <Ekibyougami> lol
[11:41] <pupil> Ekibyougami, nah,. i gotta go open her up
[11:42] <qt2> i'm having problems using backports as decriped in http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html#addingbackports ...does anyone know why?
[11:42] <dandel> lethal... how do i do that?
[11:42] <FliesLikeADesk> qt2,  are you on breezy or hoary
[11:43] <Ekibyougami> you should be able to find the chipset without opening it up
[11:43] <DaSkreech> dapper ;)
[11:43] <Ekibyougami> just go to the manufacturer website and look at the specs :p
[11:43] <FliesLikeADesk> qt2,  if you're on breezy, there are no backports yet
[11:43] <pupil> Whats the differnece between breezy and hoary,. I have installed both,. not on the same system,. I noticed some suttle differences in menu and nautilus.,
[11:43] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: breezy.
[11:43] <pupil> but I didint explore much more than that
[11:43] <nicoal> ooo breezy is out... when did this occur?
[11:43] <FliesLikeADesk> !tell qt2 about breezy
[11:43] <nalioth> pupil: that all depends on what chipset your card uses
[11:43] <FliesLikeADesk> er whoops
[11:44] <HappyFool> nicoal: yesterday ;)
[11:44] <FliesLikeADesk> !tell qt2 about backports
[11:44] <nicoal> HappyFool, awesome!
[11:44] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: someone should change it so it doesnt say "Backports is now available." then... :o
[11:44] <pupil> nalioth, where do i go and check to see compatiblity?
[11:44] <HappyFool> pupil: breezy is newer; it's presumably generally better
[11:44] <Rawplayer> whats the problem with ubuntu/gcc/ and a new kernel?
[11:44] <Rawplayer> when i run make menuconfig it gets spitted with gcc stuff
[11:44] <pupil> Rawplayer, it was compilied with 3.4
[11:44] <jrattner1> When installing ndiswrappers based on the ndiswrappers wiki entry, has it changed because the repository now containts the current ndiswrapper
[11:44] <Ekibyougami> breezy is already so much more stable than the preview was
[11:44] <dandel> LethAL, well?
[11:44] <steal> steal@steallab:~/el$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.alioth.debian.org:/cvsroot/sane login
[11:44] <steal> Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.alioth.debian.org:2401/cvsroot/sane
[11:44] <steal> CVS password:
[11:44] <steal> wait
[11:44] <nalioth> pupil: www.damnsmalllinux.org
[11:44] <steal> wait wait
[11:44] <leted> does anyone know where there's a list of supported/unsupported firewire drives?
[11:45] <Rawplayer> pupil: i downloaded the source from kernel.org
[11:45] <pupil> Rawplayer, so you have ot make sure the gcc you are using is 3.4
[11:45] <nalioth> steal: please dont paste
[11:45] <steal> cvs don't work on my linuxbox
[11:45] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: heh, and ubotu just told me to add the exact same line for backports that i alraedy have ;)
[11:45] <steal> i can't understand
[11:45] <dandel> Lethal, now it's goin without a segmentation problem lol.. but i got it to set to download only.
[11:45] <Pr0ph3t> hey guyz
[11:45] <starscalling> tell starscalling about codecs
[11:46] <starscalling> !tell starscalling about codecs
[11:46] <Pr0ph3t> ubuntu is good for servers ?
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> yeah qt2  i realized that too, but realize that it says hoary in that line :P
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t, yes, but people who use ubuntu on servers generall end up using debian
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> generally*
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> i started out with ubuntu on my servers though
[11:46] <kevogod> What advantage does Banshee have over Rhythmbox, if any?
[11:46] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick ok, understood
[11:47] <Pr0ph3t> I want to try ubuntu, because its have last packages
[11:47] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: so it does, so it does...
[11:47] <Pr0ph3t> I am afraid of etch
[11:48] <FliesLikeADesk> damn all you breezy people, 2.5 KBps from apt right now
[11:48] <Pr0ph3t> 5.10 is amd64 ?
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  there is an amd64 version
[11:49] <nalioth> Pr0ph3t: yes
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> there was one for hoary too
[11:49] <Pr0ph3t> humm
[11:49] <Pr0ph3t> will try to find here
[11:49] <pupil> nalioth, I started out with DSL .8,. they have come a long way,.
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> i'd reccommend the torrents for downloading, not the static mirrors
[11:49] <starscalling> noooooooooooo!!! msttcorefonts is terminally broken.. it wont work because the links for the truetype fonts are gone.... i have downloaded them manually... how can i get my system to be able to use/access em? or is it possible to redirect that package to a folder somehow?
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> the mirrors are way overloaded
[11:49] <nalioth> pupil: yes they have
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  the torrents are very fast right now versus the overloaded static mirrors
[11:50] <nalioth> starscalling: any TTF font you desire can be used if placed in ~/.fonts    <dir may need to be created>
[11:50] <FliesLikeADesk> starscalling, did you just upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:50] <pupil> nalioth, I have the DSL cd,. can I upgrade from .8 to 1.5 wth apt-get?
[11:50] <ProN00b> awmigood, why can't ubuntu people do something about java
[11:50] <FliesLikeADesk> !tell ProN00b about java
[11:50] <ProN00b> where can i get java from ?
[11:50] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick I have a good conection
[11:50] <starscalling> FliesLikeADesk:: i used the install iso and did fully new install
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  it is the mirrors that are slow Pr0ph3t  since so many people are downloading
[11:51] <Pr0ph3t> humm
[11:51] <nalioth> pupil: that should be possible, if theres not too big a difference in them
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  i am on 10mbit down and i was getting horrid speeds
[11:51] <nalioth> pupil: use apt-cdrom
[11:51] <topyli> ProN00b: only sun can really do anything about java
[11:51] <ui> !tell ProN00b about javadeb
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  torrents are going at hundreds of KB/s right now
[11:51] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick where are you from ?
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> ProN00b,  look at the PM from ubotu
[11:51] <fforw> ProN00b: if you don't care about your java implementation being free download one from http://java.sun.com/
[11:51] <nalioth> FliesLikeADesk: preferable to use the !javadeb trigger
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  troy,NY, USA
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> thanks nalioth
[11:51] <starscalling> nalioth:: i made /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype directory and put them in there manually.. but that didnt seem to help
[11:52] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick how much you pay just for the conection ?
[11:52] <nalioth> starscalling: try your own personal .fonts dir
[11:52] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  $45/month
[11:52] <pupil> nalioth, are you familar with feather linux?
[11:52] <Zealot87> hello
[11:52] <starscalling> thanx nalioth ill try that
[11:52] <ProN00b> j2re1.5 over apt-get plx !
[11:52] <nalioth> pupil: i know the name
[11:52] <starscalling> should i have chown +x or something on them while i was at it?
[11:52] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick thanks
[11:52] <FliesLikeADesk> starscalling,  you mean chmod?
[11:52] <pupil> I forgot my DSL cd at work,. reason I don't download the new DSL,. is because I ran out of cd's
[11:52] <pupil> lol
[11:52] <nalioth> ProN00b: it is not availabe except doing it yourself or following the links in ubotu
[11:53] <starscalling> chown i think but so that any user can open them
[11:53] <Zealot87> my updater keeps telling me something is already using my password and wont let me run the updater
[11:53] <Pr0ph3t> I got just 50k on mirror, will try torrent
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  i got 400+ on torrent
[11:53] <Zealot87> i got 700
[11:53] <Zealot87> on torrent
[11:53] <ProN00b> there was a cute repository for hoary, nothing for breezy *sob*
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> yeah i gott almost 700 on the torrent for i386
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> but now i'm doing amd64 for my roomate
[11:53] <Zealot87> yeah
[11:53] <skullzBOFH> bye
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> not quite as fast
[11:54] <thewayofzen> im still getting problems with the ubotu java runtimes
[11:54] <FliesLikeADesk> !javadeb
[11:54] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[11:54] <Zealot87> does anyone know why my a package management application is already running after restart, it wont let me run Updater!!!
[11:54] <cevizoglu> thewayofzen, you're doing what with ubotu?
[11:54] <thewayofzen> when i run azureus gtk from sourceforge with the 1.5 jre on ubotu i have issues with headers still being 1.4
[11:54] <thewayofzen> cevizoglu,  i followed ubotu to the java runtimes.. installed on breezy might be the problem i dont know
[11:54] <starscalling> nalioth:: that would be ~/.local/share/fonts? or ~/.fonts so i can make the directory please
[11:54] <cevizoglu> thewayofzen, i c
[11:55] <thewayofzen> cevizoglu, all i know is when i use azureus on Oink.me.uk  it tells me my client isnt welcome
[11:55] <thewayofzen> and the admins say azureus is indeed supported
[11:55] <thewayofzen> but that my headers are still 1.4
[11:55] <starscalling> thewayofzen:: try installing bittornado
[11:55] <Dekkard> you having trouble running azureus?
[11:55] <starscalling> run that on the torrent and see if that will work
[11:55] <Zealot87> my computer keeps saying that the updater cant get an "exclusive lock" why is that?!!?!?!
[11:55] <thewayofzen> starscalling,  gnome torrent works fine
[11:55] <leted> qquit
[11:55] <leted> quit
[11:55] <JDigital_> I find servers that ban me for my client
[11:55] <thewayofzen> starscalling, bittornado is the UGLY
[11:55] <starscalling> then they have had too many problems with the azureus leech plugin i bet
[11:56] <thewayofzen> StarKruzr,  the admins told me its my java headers
[11:56] <thewayofzen> starscalling,  ^
[11:56] <starscalling> thewayofzen:: in commandline its better: launchmanycurses /directorygoeshere
[11:56] <nalioth> starscalling: /home/starscalling/.fonts
[11:56] <dandel> does anyone know how to fix the ubuntu issue with doom3, it's a segmentation fault due to vertex array being in virtual memory :|
[11:56] <JDigital_> the admins told me it was my python
[11:56] <starscalling> thanx nalioth
[11:56] <ProN00b> ghay, .deb per torrent !!!
[11:56] <fforw> thewayofzen: maybe it's just the usual issue that azureus with all it's different java versions ruins client statistics
[11:56] <JDigital_> Zealot87: quit all other open copies of synaptic or apt-get
[11:57] <pupil> which distro has the best support for older hardware?
[11:57] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  any
[11:57] <pgas> hi
[11:57] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  perhaps hoary may be a better choice currently
[11:57] <pupil> FliesLikeABrick, cause its the same kernel right?
[11:57] <Zealot87> JDigital_, there are no others
[11:57] <JDigital_> odd
[11:57] <thewayofzen> fforw, all i know is when java and azureus were in the repos
[11:57] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  hoary will install an older kernel at install time if you want an older kernel
[11:57] <thewayofzen> fforw, it works PERFECTLY
[11:57] <ProN00b> breezy feels beta
[11:57] <Zealot87> i restarted and still wont work
[11:58] <thewayofzen> but now its broken *shrug*
[11:58] <JDigital_> Zealot: Did it crash halfway through it something
[11:58] <FliesLikeADesk> thewayofzen, which java package do i download at that link from ubotu?
[11:58] <cjhcjhcjh> I have fast net...how can I help with the torrents?
[11:58] <pgas> just upgraded to breezy, but it fails to recognize png images...does this sound familiar?
[11:58] <pupil> FliesLikeABrick, no,. I just want a distro that will install on my P133,. I know I should use DSL,. but wanted to try a server install from some other distro.
[11:58] <Zealot87> the problem started when i decided to try and use EasyUbuntu to install apps, and it was jaming on peer to peer, or it wasnt moving any farther, so i force quit that and now the update manager isnt working, so i restarted the computer and still wotn work
[11:58] <FliesLikeADesk> cjhcjhcjh,  open a torrent download and just let it run
[11:58] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: seed one or more
[11:58] <fforw> thewayofzen: it works. it's just that many torrent site admins don't like it
[11:58] <Zealot87> not install apps, to install drivers and sch
[11:59] <nalioth> pgas: make sure you have libpng installed
[11:59] <cjhcjhcjh> ok some1 pls paste the .torrent?
[11:59] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  perhaps a debian 3.1 install would be best for you if you're looking for the debian/ubuntu flavor
[11:59] <qt2> hm, i hear you can submit feature request for dapper via launchpad bug requests?
[11:59] <FliesLikeADesk> cjhcjhcjh,  it is on the ubuntu download page
[11:59] <thewayofzen> fforw,  ill just suffer through gnome torrent i guess.. :(
[11:59] <cjhcjhcjh> k
[11:59] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[11:59] <thewayofzen> azureus was the only one i knew how to upload with.
[11:59] <pupil> FliesLikeABrick, hmm,. as long as its not complicated,. lol
[11:59] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  it isnt
[11:59] <reter> how do you install a file that is on your desktop?
[11:59] <starscalling> nalioth:: i take it i might need to log out and back in for that too work then? [thanx for all the help btw] 
[11:59] <ProN00b> whats gnometorrent the interface for ?
[12:00] <fforw> reter: what kind of file is it?