[12:12] <gooseuk> Hey... I need help
[12:14] <gooseuk> Any one?
[12:15] <mhz> gooseuk: hi
[12:15] <mhz> what's wrong?
[12:15] <gooseuk> Hey!
[12:15] <gooseuk> I installed the OS onto a new hard drive on my system to test it, but I can't connect to the internet through the router now
[12:16] <gooseuk> What information do I need to correctly allow the computer to access the net?
[12:16] <mhz> hmm
[12:17] <mhz> let me get this right...
[12:18] <mhz> you have: Edubuntu on a HD, 1 eth0, 1 router, 1 ISP ?
[12:18] <gooseuk> yes
[12:18] <mhz> only 1 ethX?
[12:18] <gooseuk> I just entered 127.0.0.0 for the ip information on install, it was confusing
[12:18] <mhz> haaaa
[12:18] <mhz> no way
[12:19] <mhz> you did not read Install Notes  :D
[12:19] <gooseuk> nope, I guess I will just try it again in the morning lol
[12:19] <gooseuk> where are the install notes?
[12:19] <mhz> ok, let's fix it immediately, shall we?
[12:19] <gooseuk> sure
[12:20] <mhz> ok, do you have access to this IRC while we work on the Edubuntu box
[12:20] <mhz> ?
[12:20] <gooseuk> Erm, give me two minutes
[12:20] <mhz> okidoki, however, it is pretty simple
[12:21] <gooseuk> Ok
[12:22] <mhz> you tell mw when we start
[12:22] <mhz> please ping me
[12:22] <gooseuk> np thank you, it will be about a minute
[12:22] <mhz> np
[12:27] <gooseuk> mhz: Ready
[12:28] <mhz> okidoki
[12:28] <mhz> so, first thing, please run a Terminal
[12:28] <mhz> .oO(maybe there's a GUI way, but I have never used it)
[12:29] <gooseuk> How do I open a terminal
[12:29] <mhz> or... At the menu upper bar you should have an option like System or Preferences?
[12:30] <gooseuk> I do
[12:30] <mhz> ok
[12:30] <mhz> the one at the right most side should present you a Network something. Please read me those options
[12:31] <gooseuk> Erm I don't understand, what option do you want me to open in the preferences menu
[12:31] <mhz> do not open, just read me thos options that mention 'network' please
[12:31] <gooseuk> Erm I have found a network settings window
[12:32] <mhz> ok
[12:32] <mhz> that one!
[12:32] <gooseuk> Great :(
[12:32] <gooseuk> :)
[12:32] <mhz> that will ask you for password
[12:32] <mhz> enter the user password
[12:32] <gooseuk> ::nods:: done
[12:32] <mhz> ok, there it will show/mention to you eth0.
[12:32] <mhz> is eth0 Active?
[12:32] <gooseuk> its active
[12:33] <mhz> ok, what ip number?
[12:33] <gooseuk> 255.0.0.0
[12:33] <mhz> hhm, of this is what we'll do. very simpply/
[12:33] <mhz> we need to have an ip # like: 192.168.0.1
[12:34] <mhz> ip address: 192.168.0.1
[12:34] <mhz> then
[12:34] <mhz> netmask: 255.255.255.0
[12:34] <mhz> what other fields are there to be filled in or change on eth0?
[12:34] <gooseuk> gateway
[12:35] <mhz> gatway: 192.168.0.1
[12:35] <gooseuk> ok now what
[12:35] <mhz> other fields?
[12:35] <gooseuk> no other fields
[12:36] <mhz> ok
[12:36] <gooseuk> just click ok?
[12:36] <mhz> besides eth0 tab, are there any other tabs?
[12:36] <gooseuk> General / DNS / Hosts
[12:37] <mhz> Can you read me the info on those fields, please?
[12:37] <gooseuk> General - Hostname: + Domain name:
[12:38] <gooseuk> DNS - DNS Servers: ADD
[12:38] <gooseuk> Hosts - ip address + aliases
[12:38] <alison_> can anyone help me out with the "next step" after freshly installing edubuntu? I think I need to configure my dhcpd.conf, but I'm not sure what should go in there.
[12:39] <mhz> alison_: yes we can. gimme a couple of minutes, please
[12:39] <alison_> sure. thanks.
[12:39] <mhz> alison_: however, id you provided a valid ip during install, then nothing else to edit :D just bootup your clients via PXE
[12:40] <mhz> gooseuk: then we need to set Hostname and DNS
[12:40] <mhz> hostname is the name you want the machine to be called
[12:40] <alison_> I tried, and got an error like: PXE-E11: ARP timeout
[12:40] <mhz> (i suggest you choose one word)
[12:41] <gooseuk> rgr done
[12:41] <mhz> alison_: then i need a little bit of extra info from the install you did
[12:41] <alison_> ok
[12:41] <mhz> gooseuk: now, DNS info. Do you have that? (we can skipt it anyways :D )
[12:42] <gooseuk> I don't have it, shoot
[12:42] <mhz> ok
[12:42] <mhz> then save those changes you just made
[12:42] <gooseuk> ok done
[12:42] <mhz> cool
[12:42] <gooseuk> internet still not working :/
[12:43] <mhz> how do you paln to boot the clients?
[12:43] <mhz> gooseuk: yes, of course.
[12:43] <mhz> gooseuk: oooh,, excuse me, Very important question:
[12:44] <mhz> usually, all clients get internet from the router?
[12:44] <gooseuk> yes
[12:44] <mhz> duh!
[12:44] <gooseuk> through a hub to the router
[12:45] <gooseuk> Id that a problem?
[12:45] <mhz> so my guess is that a) you manually assign IPs to each client or b) the router provides IP to each client
[12:45] <mhz> if it is a) then we are ok by doing this. if it's b) then the router will do it automatically
[12:45] <mhz> :D
[12:45] <gooseuk> I installed mandrake before and it could connect to the internet straight away... hmm do you have the link to the install notes?
[12:46] <mhz> oooh, then the router assigns the IP automatically!
[12:46] <mhz> hehehehe
[12:46] <gooseuk> so why doesn't this work then?
[12:46] <mhz> because we assigned IP manually and did not let the router work :D
[12:47] <gooseuk> I had tried it before we changed the settings and it still didn't work
[12:47] <mhz> gooseuk: solution is: go back to Network settings and in eth0 specify "automatic"
[12:48] <gooseuk> ok, do you have the link for install notes?
[12:49] <gooseuk> mhz: thanks for your help again, I will have a look at it again in the mornin, going to get some sleep lol
[12:50] <mhz> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes
[12:50] <mhz> gooseuk: if router assigns ip automatically, you need to stop manual ip
[12:50] <mhz> otherwise it will not work
[12:51] <gooseuk> how can I stop it
[12:51] <mhz> assign "automatic" in Network Settings for eth0 and save that config.
[12:52] <gooseuk> whats the command line for it?
[12:53] <mhz> sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[12:53] <mhz> then...
[12:53] <mhz> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:54] <mhz> change 'static' for 'dhcp' in eth0 line
[12:54] <mhz> then...
[12:54] <mhz> sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[12:54] <mhz> and finally...
[12:54] <mhz> sudo nano /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[12:55] <mhz> and make sure that matches the IP settings provded by router
[12:55] <mhz> :)
[12:55] <mhz> and finally...
[12:55] <mhz> sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[12:55] <mhz> adn you're ready
[12:55] <gooseuk> how do i find out if it matches the ip normally given out
[12:55] <mhz> in a command line environment or terminal
[12:55] <mhz> write 
[12:55] <mhz> ifconfig
[12:56] <mhz> that will show you the current settings assigned to eth0 and lo
[12:57] <gooseuk> ok
[12:58] <gooseuk> thanks again mhz, will try it in the morning
[12:58] <gooseuk> night
[12:58] <mhz> nite
[12:58] <mhz> alison_: shoot
[12:59] <alison_> ok, well I followed that link to the install notes, and I configured my dhcpd.conf. I'm currently fiddling with my client and about to try booting again
[12:59] <mhz> did you edit /ltsp/dhcpd.conf?
[12:59] <mhz> or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf?
[01:02] <alison_> I edited /etc/ltsp/dhcps.conf
[01:02] <mhz> cool
[01:02] <alison_> *dhcpd
[01:02] <alison_> still the same error
[01:02] <alison_> PXE-E11: ARP timeout
[01:02] <mhz> does it correspond to same current IP in ifconfig?
[01:02] <mhz> I had same exact error for 19 hours until i saw the problem :D
[01:04] <mhz> alison_: if IP settings are ok on /network/interfaces and /ltsp/dhcpd.conf then another question:
[01:04] <alison_> well, I'm running two ethernet interfaces. eth0 is connected to the switch which goes to the clients. it's setup with a static IP. that's the IP I used in the dhcpd.conf
[01:04] <mhz> what is there between the server and client. crossover cable? 
[01:04] <mhz> oh, a swithc
[01:05] <mhz> switch
[01:05] <alison_> yup
[01:05] <mhz> so..
[01:05] <mhz> server -> eth0 static -> switch -> clients ?
[01:05] <alison_> yes, that's right.
[01:06] <mhz> can we double check /dhcpd.conf please?
[01:06] <mhz> could you paste it here?
[01:06] <alison_> ok
[01:06] <mhz> cool
[01:07] <alison_> oops, I'm on a different computer, so this will be a little tricky
[01:07] <mhz> hehehe
[01:07] <mhz> sorry
[01:09] <alison_> authoritative;
[01:09] <alison_> subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[01:09] <alison_> 	range 192.168.2.20 192.168.2.250;
[01:09] <alison_> 	option domain-name "example.com";
[01:09] <alison_> 	option domain-name-server 192.168.0.1;
[01:09] <alison_> 	option broadcast-address 192.168.2.255;
[01:09] <alison_> 	option routers 192.168.0.1;
[01:09] <alison_> 	option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[01:09] <alison_> 
[01:09] <alison_> 	filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";
[01:09] <alison_> 	option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"
[01:09] <alison_> }
[01:09] <mhz> ok
[01:10] <alison_> I set my static IP on eth0 to 192.168.2.1
[01:10] <mhz> could you please comment the line: option domain-name-server 192.168.0.1
[01:10] <alison_> ok
[01:10] <mhz> and change option routers to 192.168.2.1
[01:11] <mhz> oh, no wait
[01:11] <mhz> you don't have a router right? you have a switch?
[01:12] <mhz> if yu have a switch, then do hange to 192.168.2.1
[01:13] <mhz> so that it matches your static IP
[01:13] <alison_> I'm connected to a router on eth1, using DHCP, but the switch is going to the clients
[01:13] <mhz> yes, then it should work. BUT could you please just desconnect the eth1 for this tests
[01:13] <mhz> ?
[01:14] <alison_> sure
[01:14] <mhz> usually, 2 dhcps running is conflictive
[01:14] <mhz> and I wanna make sure we are attacking step by step
[01:14] <alison_> so I should set the option routers to my eth0 static IP
[01:14] <mhz> yes
[01:14] <alison_> ok
[01:15] <mhz> now, /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart  , of course :)
[01:15] <mhz> are you sure your static ip is currently 192.168.2.1 ?
[01:16] <mhz> also, please make sure the /etc/inet.d is pointing to right /dir for /ltsp
[01:17] <alison_> ifconfig shows eth0 having "inet addr:192.168.2.1
[01:17] <mhz> ok
[01:17] <mhz> and inetd.conf?
[01:18] <mhz> tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/
[01:18] <mhz> tftpboot  ?
[01:18] <alison_> which? I'm confused.
[01:19] <mhz> /etc/inetd.conf
[01:19] <alison_> ok
[01:20] <alison_> hehe... well, I've been using ubuntu on my main box since May... just a dummy at ltsp stuff
[01:20] <alison_> lol
[01:20] <mhz> no problem, i was a dummy until last friday 
[01:20] <mhz> lol
[01:21] <pitux> hello
[01:21] <mhz> hello
[01:21] <alison_> ok, inetd.conf has:
[01:21] <alison_> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd - s /var/lib/tftpboot
[01:22] <alison_> looks like what you posted
[01:23] <mhz> yesp
[01:23] <mhz> so let's give this baby a try
[01:23] <alison_> ok
[01:23] <mhz> before.. you do have /opt/....
[01:25] <mhz> alison_: you did restarted dhcp, right?
[01:25] <alison_> I restarted it, yes
[01:26] <mhz> okidoki
[01:26] <mhz> did the client boot?
[01:26] <alison_> this time it appeared to boot, and it's now stopped after a whole bunch of text with "Done." and then a little blinking _
[01:26] <mhz> cool!!!
[01:26] <mhz> i had that too
[01:26] <mhz> simple to solve
[01:26] <alison_> oh, now it's trying to boot some more...
[01:27] <mhz> re try to boot the client
[01:27] <alison_> it's trying to sync the clock with ntp, which i'm supposing won't work
[01:27] <mhz> it happens like twice
[01:27] <mhz> oh, it is working then???????????????
[01:27] <mhz> educool!!
[01:27] <alison_> I got a login screen~
[01:27] <mhz> hehehe
[01:27] <mhz> do you feel good now?
[01:28] <alison_> absolutely!! thank you so much.
[01:28] <mhz> no problem
[01:29] <mhz> now, we gotta make your internet work plugin eth1
[01:29] <alison_> actually, I gotta get logged in... it keeps booting me back to the login screen... maybe because I only have one account, and I'm logged in on that on the server?
[01:29] <mhz> no
[01:30] <mhz> that happens -supposedly- because you need to update your ssh keys
[01:30] <mhz> ogra provided me with a command lin to do so.. let me get in in my logs
[01:30] <alison_> ok
[01:35] <alison_> a login screen never looked so beautiful
[01:35] <mhz> hehehe
[01:36] <mhz> alison_: ltsp-update-sshkeys
[01:37] <alison_> ok, done
[01:38] <mhz> and can you login now?
[01:39] <alison_> no... do I need to restart anything?
[01:39] <mhz> hmmm, don't know I have not yet tried that solution
[01:39] <mhz> :D
[01:40] <mhz> i was wiking some docs when I started the help to goosuek
[01:40] <alison_> lol... ok... lemme try again
[01:40] <mhz> and then you :)
[01:41] <alison_> oh, so is that why things were appearing there that I never saw before? lol
[01:42] <mhz> lol
[01:42] <mhz> alison_: please do let me know if that ssh updating worked
[01:44] <mhz> alison_: obviously, IF does work :D
[01:46] <alison_> nope, still can't log in. it goes to a black screen, then comes back to the login
[01:46] <mhz> hmmmmm
[01:46] <mhz> and you rebooted?
[01:46] <alison_> rebooted the client
[01:47] <alison_> should I reboot the server?
[01:47] <mhz> ah, but the server?
[01:47] <mhz> what's there to lose now?
[01:47] <mhz> :D
[01:47] <alison_> heh heh... I'm just so used to almost never having to reboot in this world of linux
[01:48] <mhz> me too, but after so many hours, my head can't hink of a logical reason while ogra is not here
[01:48] <mhz> ogra needed a hughe rest so I am not complaining
[01:48] <alison_> :)
[01:55] <alison_> *sigh* still a no-go.
[01:55] <mhz> hmmm
[01:55] <alison_> is it normal to see several things fail and lots of complaining about fstab during the client bootup?
[01:56] <mhz> meybe
[02:03] <alison_> is xdmcp necessary? I keep reading about it on the LTSP docs, but it doesn't appear to be installed on my server
[02:03] <mhz> alison_: so far, i am getting blocked
[02:03] <mhz> sorry
[02:03] <mhz> i wish i could understand tonite
[02:04] <alison_> no problem
[02:09] <alison_> alright, I have to go. I will probably be back asking more questions later or tomorrow. :)
[02:10] <alison_> Thanks again for your help. you at least got me off to a good start.
[02:10] <mhz> educool!
[02:11] <alison_> mhz: if you happen to get any info on this, maybe post it on the wiki? :)
[02:11] <mhz> of course
[02:11] <alison_> thanks
[02:11] <alison_> have a good night
[02:11] <mhz> but you please specifyu the problem on
[02:11] <mhz> UserComments
[02:11] <alison_> oh, ok, I'll do that
[02:45] <mwright1night> Hi all
[02:45] <mwright1night> I'm after a package called Teachers pet
[02:45] <mwright1night> how do I find it
[02:45] <mwright1night> i've installed edubuntu
[02:46] <mwright1night> 5.10 breezy release
[02:47] <Nancy> http://www.teachers-pet.org/index.html
[02:47] <Nancy> ?
[02:48] <mwright1night> not very funny
[02:48] <mwright1night> teachers pet is the replacement of teachers tool
[02:48] <mwright1night> and i've been looking all over
[02:50] <Nancy> Thats what this site says it is.
[02:50] <Nancy> But I guess you want something else.
[02:51] <Nancy> http://www.kacper.com/teacherspet/teacherspet.html
[02:51] <Nancy> This one?
[02:51] <mwright1night> it's the replacement for k12ltsp's teacher tool
[02:51] <mwright1night> which runs vnc in various ways too and from terminal server clients
[02:52] <mwright1night> it's supposed to be core edubuntu software
[02:56] <Nancy> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/TeachersPet?highlight=%28Teacher%29
[02:56] <Nancy> This one.
[02:56] <Nancy> OK.
[02:58] <Nancy> You tried TeachersTool?
[03:04] <Nancy> Looks like its a to-do.  Not implemented yet.
[04:38] <pedersoj> test
[04:40] <pedersoj> Test
[04:50] <watanabe88> hello
[04:50] <watanabe88> anyone here
[06:57] <swamych> can i expect free edubuntu cds
[09:59] <ajmitch_> \win 41
[09:59] <ajmitch_> hm
[01:11] <Jeromee> good mornin ogra
[01:11] <ogra> moin
[01:11] <Jeromee> I think I slept to much
[01:11] <Jeromee> 14hrs
[01:11] <Jeromee> 0_o
[01:12] <ogra> i'm still taking up on my lack of sleep :)
[01:12] <Jeromee> hehe
[01:13] <Jeromee> I was up for ~60hrs before I crashed though
[01:13] <Jeromee> everytime I'd go and try to sleep, I'd just wake up again
[01:13] <Jeromee> I hate that shit.
[01:13] <ogra> similar here... and we had release party yesterday night, so not much sleep either
[01:14] <Jeromee> ah yeah, I have a party today at 1
[01:14] <Jeromee> I think
[02:39] <gooseuk> Hello any one around?
[02:57] <gooseuk> I need some help with trying to access my NTFS drives on the computer
[02:58] <juliux> re
[02:59] <gooseuk> RE?
[03:05] <Jeromee> damn
[03:05] <Jeromee> my 200GB hd is full.
[03:05] <Jeromee> =O
[03:07] <gooseuk> I had to get another 80 GB hard drive for this OS lol
[03:07] <JohnnyCastaway> Can anyone help with install probs?
[03:09] <gooseuk> I wish I could help you
[03:09] <JohnnyCastaway> I have d/led 3 times burned 6 cd's all md5sums checkout used 3 different burners 3 different pc's 2 hd's and cant get past 6% of base install
[03:09] <gooseuk> What speed are you burning the CDs at?
[03:10] <JohnnyCastaway> 48 40 32 24 2 1 take your pick...went slower rach time it failed
[03:10] <JohnnyCastaway> each
[03:11] <gooseuk> I burnt mine at x8, it burnt well
[03:11] <gooseuk> What version of the program did you download?
[03:11] <JohnnyCastaway> Ubuntu works well I just cannot get edubuntu to work
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[03:12] <gooseuk> Weird...
[03:12] <gooseuk> It could be a hardware issue I suppose
[03:12] <JohnnyCastaway> I know...AND REALLY PISSING ME OFF
[03:13] <JohnnyCastaway> Ubuntu burned fine its edubuntu
[03:13] <JohnnyCastaway> That wont
[03:13] <gooseuk> I can't understand why it wouldn't work
[03:14] <JohnnyCastaway> I even used nero then dvd decrypter to burn
[03:14] <JohnnyCastaway> Im gonna give it 1 last shot on all new equipment
[03:24] <Yagisan> gooseuk: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mount/windows
[03:24] <Yagisan> gooseuk: replace /dev/hda with your windows partition
[03:24] <Yagisan> gooseuk: replace /mount/windows with where you want to access it
[03:24] <JohnnyCastaway> I wanna just del my windows partition
[03:24] <gooseuk> Yagisan: How on earth do I find the floppy drive?
[03:25] <Yagisan> gooseuk: it's dev/fd0 - but I don't have one - so I forgot where it is mounted
[03:26] <gooseuk> I have a problem then
[03:27] <Yagisan> JohnnyCastaway; when you install - you have an option to delete the partions
[03:27] <Yagisan> gooseuk: as far as I can tell - you can't access the floppys on the clients yet
[03:28] <JohnnyCastaway> I let it set its own up...
[03:30] <gooseuk> Yagisan: erm... is there a way around that?  
[03:30] <JohnnyCastaway> Does this have a good assortment of proggies for kids to learn on?
[03:30] <Yagisan> gooseuk: as yet - no, but check with ogra
[03:31] <Yagisan> JohnnyCastaway: yes - can you use fdisk ?
[03:33] <JohnnyCastaway> Its been a while since I have
[03:34] <Yagisan> JohnnyCastaway: there is an application called cfdisk, you can use that to delete a windows partition
[03:35] <gooseuk> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[03:36] <Yagisan> gooseuk: you will need to adjust my example for your specific setup
[03:36] <gooseuk> What does that mean? Thats the error I get when I double click on the floppy icon
[03:36] <Yagisan> gooseuk: I think it means can't find floppy drive
[03:37] <gooseuk> damm, thats going to be a problem
[03:37] <Yagisan> gooseuk: server ?
[03:37] <gooseuk> yeah this is the server version i am running
[03:37] <Yagisan> gooseuk: or clients need it ?
[03:37] <gooseuk> All of the systems need floppy access
[03:38] <JohnnyCastaway> They do?
[03:38] <Yagisan> gooseuk: best to speak to ogra about this
[03:38] <Yagisan> JohnnyCastaway: just for what gooseuk wants to do
[03:38] <JohnnyCastaway> I havent built a pc with a floppy in years
[03:38] <JohnnyCastaway> Oh ok
[03:39] <JohnnyCastaway> Had me worried there
[03:39] <Yagisan> guys - what arches are you using ? ppc ? amd64 ? i386 ?
[03:40] <JohnnyCastaway> i386
[03:40] <gooseuk> Roger Yagisan, also I have another problem, can I have different menu options for different users
[03:40] <gooseuk> i386
[03:40] <JohnnyCastaway> If I can get it going
[03:41] <Yagisan> gooseuk: it's a yes but answer too that
[03:42] <gooseuk> Do you know how to do it?
[03:42] <Yagisan> gooseuk: are you adding or removing - I know how to add
[03:43] <gooseuk> Well for the student accounts I want menus removed
[03:45] <Yagisan> gooseuk: what menus ?
[03:47] <gooseuk> Admin section in the System menu
[03:48] <Yagisan> gooseuk: I don't see an option to remove it - unless you are a member of the group admin you can't run it anyway
[03:49] <gooseuk> Ok great :)
[03:49] <Yagisan> gooseuk: only first user created when installing the server has admin rights
[03:50] <gooseuk> This floppy disk issue is going to be a problem :/ 
[03:51] <Yagisan> gooseuk: I'm sure it can be fixed - I think ogra is celebrating the breezy release - he's normally here
[03:51] <gooseuk> The kids use floppy disks to bring their homework back home and then put them back on the system
[03:52] <JohnnyCastaway> Get thumb drives
[03:52] <gooseuk> I hope so... Hopefully you guys can come up with a fix before friday...
[03:52] <gooseuk> You mean USB drives?
[03:52] <JohnnyCastaway> Bigger and hot plug supports them
[03:52] <JohnnyCastaway> yes
[03:52] <gooseuk> School can't afford them
[03:52] <JohnnyCastaway> Mommy and daddy can...
[03:53] <gooseuk> In this case only some could
[03:53] <JohnnyCastaway> Use a group buy through the school
[03:53] <JohnnyCastaway> Get a discount
[03:53] <Yagisan> JohnnyCastaway: not all boxes have usb
[03:54] <JohnnyCastaway> So much for that idea then
[03:55] <gooseuk> ::nods:: But again cost is an issue, its an underfunded school, in a underpriviledged area
[03:56] <JohnnyCastaway> Well than not all will have pc access at home either
[03:57] <gooseuk> ::nods:: but some do, thats the issue, it still has to have that basic feature, not to mention teachers
[03:58] <gooseuk> They need that type of access
[04:00] <JohnnyCastaway> Be back shortly time to pick kids up
[04:01] <gooseuk> Yagisan: How do I install a internet filter to this client?
[04:02] <Yagisan> gooseuk: on the system that you installed squid on - install dansguardian
[04:02] <gooseuk> how do I install dansguardian?
[04:03] <Yagisan> gooseuk: synaptic - search dansguardian
[04:06] <gooseuk> Ok I think its installed
[04:07] <Yagisan> gooseuk: there is documentation is /usr/share/doc/dansguardian
[04:07] <Yagisan> gooseuk: and here http://dansguardian.org/
[04:07] <gooseuk> how do I get there?
[04:09] <gooseuk> I can't find any thing about dansguardian in any menu
[04:09] <Yagisan> gooseuk: applications -> Assecories -> File Browser and navigate to /usr/share/doc/dansguardian
[04:10] <Yagisan> gooseuk: dansguardian is an add on for squid
[04:10] <Yagisan> gooseuk: it won't have a menu of it's own
[04:11] <gooseuk> Ok I found the documents for dansguardian?
[04:12] <Yagisan> gooseuk: hopefully they should be clear about how to configure it
[04:12] <gooseuk> I can't understand how I can start it etc..
[04:12] <Yagisan> gooseuk: squid is installed right ?
[04:13] <gooseuk> no...
[04:13] <Yagisan> gooseuk: dansguardian is a webfilter that hooks into squid (the www-proxy)
[04:14] <gooseuk> Installing as we speak
[04:14] <Yagisan> gooseuk: it will automatically filter all www traffic that goes through squid - no client configuration required
[04:15] <gooseuk> ok I installed squid etc
[04:15] <gooseuk> I even installed a web admin feature
[04:16] <Yagisan> gooseuk: have a look at the website I listed - it has some useful information on the filter
[04:16] <Yagisan> gooseuk: cool - you'll hate me now - but I haven't configured squid in a long time so I have to RTFM to tell you what to do now
[04:17] <Yagisan> gooseuk: I just know what you need to use
[04:19] <gooseuk> I have a problem I can't access this web admin thing, it is asking for a username and password, I tryied my root username and password and nothing
[04:21] <gooseuk> Shit, its blocked me now! lol
[04:23] <Yagisan> gooseuk: sorry, I'm trying to get up to speed with it (last time I used it - it didn't even have web admin)
[04:24] <gooseuk> Lad, don't worry, you are helping me out alot
[04:27] <Yagisan> gooseuk: there is a user guide here (450k) http://squid-docs.sourceforge.net/latest/book-full.html
[04:30] <gooseuk> hmm I don't know where to start, I am not sure how to even start it 
[04:31] <Yagisan> gooseuk: squid will automatically start itself on system boot
[04:31] <gooseuk> So I have to reboot?
[04:31] <Yagisan> squid should start dansguardian once it has been configured to use it
[04:31] <Yagisan> gooseuk: no, a sudo/etic/ini.d/squid restart should work
[04:33] <gooseuk> it says no such file or directory
[04:35] <Yagisan> gooseuk: typo. sudo/etc/init.d/squid restart
[04:36] <gooseuk> Still no such file or directory
[04:37] <Yagisan> gooseuk: should not be a space between sudo and /
[04:38] <Yagisan> gooseuk: be back soon - need to put little girl to bed
[04:38] <gooseuk> no problem, but it still doesn't work
[06:05] <JohnnyCastaway> Does edubuntu fit on a cd-rw?
[06:07] <jsgotangco> yes
[06:07] <jsgotangco> 700MB
[06:10] <gooseuk> I have a problem, I can't edit a tinyproxy.conf file... do you know of a reason why now?
[06:10] <gooseuk> not*
[06:11] <gooseuk> How do I change permissions
[06:25] <JohnnyCastaway> Ok new disc and 4x rw
[06:26] <jsgotangco> awesome that'll work
[06:28] <JohnnyCastaway> Hasnt yet this is number 8
[06:29] <JohnnyCastaway> 4 d/l all mathing md5sums
[06:29] <JohnnyCastaway> And thin is a brand new machine
[06:29] <JohnnyCastaway> matching
[06:29] <JohnnyCastaway> this
[07:18] <JohnnyCastaway> Ok 8 tries and it failed again
[07:19] <JohnnyCastaway> How do I check /target/var/log/bootstarp.log
[07:20] <JohnnyCastaway> It contiuously fails install base system
[07:20] <gooseuk> i would say hardware then
[07:20] <JohnnyCastaway> 3 different machines?
[07:24] <JohnnyCastaway> How do I check /target/var/log/bootstarp.log
[07:25] <JohnnyCastaway> How do I check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log
[07:27] <JohnnyCastaway> Is this picky about master/slave drive issues?\
[08:16] <Robla64> anyone home?
[08:17] <JohnnyCastaway> Should I use lvm when partitioning the hard drive?
[08:24] <JohnnyCastaway> Libcurses.so.n.5 cannot open shared object file this is the error I get in terminal f3 any help?
[08:24] <JohnnyCastaway> No n
[08:47] <JohnnyCastaway> Reburn no.9
[09:11] <JohnnyCastaway> #9 may have been the lucky number today made it past 6%
[09:24] <juliux> somebody nows which cheap thinclients works with edubuntu?
[09:35] <Jeromee> bigger, the better
[09:35] <Jeromee> :-D
[09:36] <juliux> hm i search a diskless version
[09:45] <JohnnyCastaway> 9 disks later we made it to phase 2 and booted from the hd
[10:21] <JohnnyCastaway> Is 6gb enough for edubuntu?
[10:23] <juliux> JohnnyCastaway, yes 
[10:24] <JohnnyCastaway> More and more probs
[10:24] <juliux> but it is not very much space for user files
[10:24] <JohnnyCastaway> Now its missing gcompris
[10:25] <juliux> hm 
[10:25] <juliux> i have no install problems
[10:26] <juliux> do you use the final?
[10:28] <juliux> cu all
[10:32] <JohnnyCastaway> I used the 1 on the site..i think its final