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| Tm_T | hello kids | 01:45 |
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| Riddell | hi Tm_T | 01:49 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: I've heard some complains that 3.5b1 is slower | 02:01 |
| Tm_T | than 3.4.2 | 02:02 |
| Tm_T | and trouble if filenames include umlauts | 02:03 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: filenames should _not_ have umlauts | 02:21 |
| \sh | I hate MS for this idea | 02:21 |
| \sh | it gave me a lot of nightmares during my SVN project | 02:22 |
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| JRe | Is it normal that I have media:/ not detecting new devices ? | 02:37 |
| OculusAquilae | JRe: yes, thats normal it think | 02:40 |
| JRe | OculusAquilae: damn :( | 02:40 |
| OculusAquilae | right | 02:40 |
| OculusAquilae | you could write a patch :-) | 02:41 |
| OculusAquilae | not sure if Riddell is working on it | 02:41 |
| JRe | OculusAquilae: is it still a hal trouble ? | 02:41 |
| OculusAquilae | i think so | 02:41 |
| Riddell | JRe: try installing this http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase-kio-plugins_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb | 02:47 |
| Riddell | JRe: then killall kded && kded | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | \sh: you mean pkirjoitus.odt ? | 02:48 |
| Tm_T | \sh: why not | 02:48 |
| JRe | Riddell: where is the source (i have to rebuild for Amd64) ? | 02:48 |
| Riddell | JRe: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu_23_hal_api.diff | 02:50 |
| Riddell | fixed patch | 02:50 |
| \sh | Tm_T: because it gives you problems with applications, which are using plain "LC_LANG=C" .. | 02:50 |
| Tm_T | true | 02:50 |
| \sh | Tm_T: and filenames shouldn't have umlauts at all... | 02:50 |
| \sh | Tm_T: think about the problems with cyrillic filenames or japanese/chinse "umlauts" ,) | 02:51 |
| Riddell | \sh: kubuntu is unicode, any filename should work | 02:51 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I think so too | 02:51 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: and does work here | 02:51 |
| \sh | Riddell: right...but filenames shouldn't handled by unicode...I like the 7bit ascii filenames....because it gives nobody headaches..same applies to IDN dns ;) | 02:52 |
| OculusAquilae | thanks Riddell, installed patch | 02:52 |
| \sh | but it's my opinion | 02:52 |
| OculusAquilae | working | 02:52 |
| \sh | ok...going shopping | 02:52 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok thanks, I'll rebuild kdebase with this pach | 02:52 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: why is it not in the repos? | 02:52 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: I need someeone elite to review it before I can upload to breezy-updates | 02:54 |
| Riddell | and they seem to be taking the weekend off | 02:54 |
| OculusAquilae | ah ok, so it will hopely be in the repos next week, won't it? | 02:54 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: yes | 02:54 |
| Mez | Riddell: isn't it pitti who does that | 02:55 |
| Riddell | Mez: dunno, ask him | 02:56 |
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| seaLne | a different view on java in ubuntu :-) : | 03:14 |
| seaLne | < gLAsgowMonkey> cool, i just built my first package shame i can't share it because of the license | 03:14 |
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| pef | hello | 03:14 |
| seaLne | as aposed to grr java-package etc comments | 03:14 |
| pef | how can I find all bugs assigned to Kubuntu team into Malone ? | 03:15 |
| seaLne | no idea, i tried but if you click on the link that says "kubuntu team" it just tell you that *you* have no bugs (or maybe you do) | 03:15 |
| Mez | pef: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs | 03:16 |
| seaLne | ah | 03:16 |
| pef | Mez: thanks ! | 03:17 |
| Mez | pef: no probs | 03:17 |
| Mez | pef: I have to know where that is :D | 03:17 |
| seaLne | someone want to close https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/kdebindings/+bug/1784 fixed in current version? | 03:25 |
| JRe | ho cool there is a kubuntu team now on lauchpad ;) | 03:25 |
| seaLne | and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/kdebindings/+bug/2048 should be closed aswell | 03:26 |
| JRe | Mez: anyone can join the kubuntuteam? | 03:27 |
| Mez | JRe... I don't know... ask Riddell... I think it's for people who actually work/upload for it | 03:27 |
| JRe | Mez: ok so it's not useful for me I can't upload | 03:28 |
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| Riddell | JRe: join up and I'll approve your name. I've had a few random people try and join but we know and love you so feel free to add yourself | 03:29 |
| Mez | see: I wasnt sure | 03:29 |
| Mez | Riddell: can i be admin then ? :P | 03:29 |
| Mez | or is that for you main-ites | 03:29 |
| Riddell | Mez: not sure, the MOTUs seem to set everyone as admin so maybe that's the thing to do | 03:30 |
| Mez | I dont think it is... just the people you trust to add other people to the team | 03:30 |
| Riddell | I can't work out how to close seaLne's kdebindings beastie | 03:32 |
| Riddell | "Oops Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad." | 03:32 |
| Mez | .../ | 03:32 |
| Mez | Riddell: want to be part of the Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators | 03:34 |
| Mez | it mainly consists of changing the words like center and color :D | 03:34 |
| Riddell | ah hah, I have to fix it in the given distribution | 03:34 |
| Riddell | Mez: please | 03:34 |
| Mez | and a lot of copy and pasting | 03:34 |
| seaLne | Mez: nothing wrong with those spellings :) | 03:34 |
| Mez | seaLne, they are not british english | 03:34 |
| seaLne | thanks to html i like those spellings | 03:35 |
| Mez | Riddell: lemme create the team | 03:35 |
| Riddell | seaLne: they're polluting our culture, where's your sense of british pride? | 03:36 |
| seaLne | i'm scottish :P | 03:36 |
| Mez | :D | 03:36 |
| Mez | scottish == british | 03:37 |
| Riddell | great, lets start the Scots translation team | 03:37 |
| Mez | "och" and "nay" instead of yes and no? | 03:37 |
| Mez | ooh. | 03:37 |
| Riddell | Mez: aye and naw | 03:37 |
| Mez | I wonder if they'll let us translate ubuntu into klingon | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | yu | 03:37 |
| Riddell | Mez: only romanised klingon, the alphabet isn't in unicode | 03:37 |
| Mez | damn | 03:38 |
| OculusAquilae | Mez: would be very difficult :-) | 03:43 |
| Mez | OculusAquilae, it was a joke | 03:43 |
| OculusAquilae | i know :-) | 03:43 |
| Mez | be interesting to see how many people used it | 03:43 |
| Riddell | there was a klingon translation of KDE, don't think it get very far | 03:43 |
| OculusAquilae | Mez: theres google in klingon isn't it | 03:44 |
| OculusAquilae | don't know the url | 03:44 |
| OculusAquilae | http://www.google.com/intl/xx-klingon/ | 03:44 |
| Mez | yes | 03:46 |
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| Mez | hmm, Riddell: why is there no kubuntu project/product in LP | 03:48 |
| Riddell | Mez: what would it be for? | 03:48 |
| Riddell | hmm, I can't make people admins for the kubuntu team launchpad | 03:48 |
| Mez | hmm | 03:48 |
| Mez | \sh prob has to do ti | 03:48 |
| Riddell | anyone heard of Sfurdal? | 03:49 |
| Riddell | \sh: can you make people admins on the kubuntu team? | 03:49 |
| Mez | actually... it's not really that much you need to do tbh... | 03:49 |
| Mez | \sh is the owner, of course he can | 03:49 |
| JRe | Riddell: recompiled kdebase with updated patch and everything is working right, now. Thanks a lot! | 03:49 |
| Mez | JRe: when are you going for MOTU | 03:49 |
| Riddell | JRe: excellent | 03:50 |
| JRe | Mez: I have to works on package before to gain some more experience | 03:50 |
| Mez | cool | 03:51 |
| Riddell | oops, I pressed the wrong button for sfurdal and gave him membership | 03:52 |
| JRe | :) | 03:54 |
| Riddell | deactivated | 03:54 |
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| Riddell | hi freeflying | 04:21 |
| freeflying | hi | 04:54 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: about? | 05:25 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: trying to play with some kde svn stuff and it says AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE not found, any idea what package im missing? | 05:26 |
| Lathiat | like, i have automake etc, never had a problem on gnome stuff :\ hrm | 05:28 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: have you run make -f Makefile.cvs ? | 05:31 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: is it trunk or branch? | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: yeh, thats whats barfing | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | trunk/playground | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | someone just told me to try unsermake | 05:32 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: trunk is kde 4, no guarantee it'll work | 05:32 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: which unsermake are you using? | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | well i was just about to try kdes version | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | (im using normal automake atm) | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | err | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | s/kde/ubuntu | 05:32 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: the unsermake package in kubuntu may well be out of date | 05:33 |
| Riddell | you might want to get unsermake out of svn | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | possibly, we'll find out :) | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: yeh | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | also i seem to have to define | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | AUTOHEADER AUTOMAKE etc | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | (else it tries to execute --version) | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | btu other people dont seem to have to | 05:33 |
| Lathiat | whats with that? | 05:33 |
| Riddell | dunno, I've never looked at kde 4, there's a wiki page that describes how to make it | 05:34 |
| Lathiat | i have the same problems with katapult, fwiw | 05:35 |
| Lathiat | exactly | 05:35 |
| Lathiat | the defines, and the AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE failure | 05:35 |
| Lathiat | avahi works fine, and it uses AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, so it exists | 05:35 |
| Lathiat | weird | 05:35 |
| Riddell | patches for katapult very welcome :) | 05:35 |
| Lathiat | yeh i want to add smart bookmarks and urls | 05:36 |
| Lathiat | if i could get it to start to compile might help ;p | 05:36 |
| Lathiat | haha | 05:36 |
| Mez | lol :D | 05:37 |
| Mez | katapult seems to be going well | 05:37 |
| Lathiat | heh | 05:39 |
| Lathiat | i just ran avahi's autogen.sh over it | 05:39 |
| Lathiat | works fine | 05:39 |
| Riddell | spooky | 05:40 |
| Lathiat | heh | 05:41 |
| Lathiat | didnt actually compile tho | 05:41 |
| Lathiat | i reran Makefile.cvs | 05:41 |
| Lathiat | and now it works fine | 05:41 |
| Lathiat | heh | 05:41 |
| Mez | are you on about katapult? | 05:44 |
| Lathiat | both katapult and oKular | 05:44 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: ooh, what's okular like? | 05:44 |
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| Lathiat | i'll find out shortly :) | 05:46 |
| hunger | This right-after-release time is soooo boring! No new packages to break my system in new and exciting ways;-) | 05:48 |
| OculusAquilae | :-) | 05:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: u can do it as well :) | 05:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: who should be admin? | 05:50 |
| Lathiat | lathiat@qaplaH:~/devel/kubuntupult/trunk/katapult$ ~/devel/avahi/trunk/autogen.sh ; make -f Makefile.cvs | 05:50 |
| Lathiat | ;p | 05:50 |
| Riddell | \sh: I can't do it, doesn't let me I don't think | 05:50 |
| \sh | Riddell: hmmm....ok..who? | 05:50 |
| Riddell | mez and jre I think | 05:51 |
| \sh | done | 05:52 |
| \sh | who is sfurdal? | 05:52 |
| Riddell | \sh: how do I do it? I go to https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+members/ and click edit and I don't have an option to make them admin | 05:52 |
| \sh | Riddell: hmmm....it works with firefox | 05:52 |
| freeflying | Riddell:have there any patches to konqueror for cjk | 05:52 |
| \sh | lemme try konqui | 05:52 |
| Riddell | freeflying: none that I know of, what needs fixed? | 05:52 |
| Riddell | "Administrator: yes Yes no No" it's giving me the option now | 05:53 |
| freeflying | we can not copy any file from a dir named in cjk | 05:53 |
| Riddell | I'm sure I didn't have that before | 05:53 |
| Riddell | freeflying: hmm, not heard of that before | 05:53 |
| Riddell | is it the same problem people were having earlier with umlouts? | 05:54 |
| \sh | Riddell: but u were logged in? | 05:54 |
| freeflying | maybe you have not used cjk .:) | 05:54 |
| freeflying | Riddell: will skim be included in the next release | 05:56 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I certainly hope so, I think someone made packages for it but they kinday got lost | 05:57 |
| Riddell | \sh: yes, I could do other changes to people | 05:58 |
| freeflying | Riddell: maybe i'd like to do so | 05:58 |
| freeflying | Riddell:will you accept patch for cjk users? | 05:59 |
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| \sh | Riddell: i set now jre and mez as admin.. | 05:59 |
| Riddell | I hope they use it wisely | 06:00 |
| \sh | but who is sfural? | 06:00 |
| Riddell | random guy who signed up, I accidently accepted his membership | 06:01 |
| freeflying | why don't we build the latest release of scim ? | 06:01 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I suspect it's just that none of the developers use it so they havn't noticed | 06:02 |
| Riddell | freeflying: would you be able to update the scim package and make skim packages? | 06:02 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I can make skim package | 06:03 |
| Riddell | freeflying: done packaging before? | 06:04 |
| freeflying | yeah | 06:04 |
| Riddell | cool, let me know if you need any help | 06:05 |
| freeflying | we have some project under ubuntu for we china users | 06:05 |
| freeflying | www.ubuntu.org.cn | 06:05 |
| Riddell | cool | 06:07 |
| Riddell | konqueror doesn't pick up all the characters on that page, quite a pain | 06:07 |
| freeflying | will you list our forum in the kubuntu forums | 06:08 |
| Riddell | what's the URL? | 06:08 |
| freeflying | http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewforum.php?f=6 | 06:09 |
| freeflying | I shall leave for a while .if I need help ,i'll ask for you | 06:09 |
| Riddell | freeflying: ok | 06:10 |
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| Mez | Lathiat: ping | 09:01 |
| Lathiat | Mez: pong | 09:01 |
| Mez | you said there was some problems compiling kubuntu? | 09:01 |
| Mez | katapult * | 09:01 |
| Mez | I seem to be hitting some at the moment | 09:01 |
| Mez | what were your problems Lathiat | 09:02 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 09:03 |
| Lathiat | well first of | 09:03 |
| Lathiat | i had to export | 09:03 |
| Lathiat | AUTOHEADER | 09:03 |
| Lathiat | AUTOMAKE | 09:03 |
| Lathiat | AUTOCONF | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | and then it failed to find AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | turned out the solution was to use avahi's autogen.sh | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | and not the Makefile.cvs that kde uses in everything | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | but i had to run that after | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | ;p | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | its whack | 09:04 |
| Mez | hmm | 09:07 |
| Mez | erm, can you tell me where I get the autogen.sh from? | 09:08 |
| Lathiat | svn://svn.0pointer.de/avahi/trunk/autogen.sh | 09:08 |
| Lathiat | once i ran that once | 09:08 |
| Lathiat | re-running Makefile.cvs seemed to work fine | 09:08 |
| Lathiat | i think its something to do with the aclocal -D common thing | 09:09 |
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| Mez | I dont seem to even have a damn configure file | 09:11 |
| Lathiat | Mez: because you generate it | 09:12 |
| Lathiat | from the auto-fu sources | 09:12 |
| Lathiat | thats what make -f Makefile.cvs is supposed to do | 09:12 |
| Lathiat | except its broken, at least for me | 09:12 |
| Mez | yeah | 09:12 |
| Mez | but I cant even generat them | 09:12 |
| Lathiat | so | 09:13 |
| Lathiat | get our autogen.sh | 09:13 |
| Lathiat | run that in the dir | 09:13 |
| Lathiat | then run make -f Makefile.cvs | 09:13 |
| Lathiat | shoudl work then | 09:13 |
| Mez | mez@apathy:~/dev/katapult/work$ sh ./autogen.sh | 09:14 |
| Mez | + '[' x = xam '] ' | 09:14 |
| Mez | + rm -rf autom4te.cache | 09:14 |
| Mez | + rm -f config.cache | 09:14 |
| Mez | + libtoolize -c --force | 09:14 |
| Mez | libtoolize: `configure.ac' does not exist | 09:14 |
| Mez | Try `libtoolize --help' for more information. | 09:15 |
| Lathiat | err | 09:15 |
| Lathiat | wrong dir | 09:15 |
| Lathiat | go up a dir | 09:15 |
| Mez | the one below the source? | 09:15 |
| Lathiat | yes | 09:15 |
| Mez | where there is no configure.ac either | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | hrm i actually was in katapult/ | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | where did you check it out from? | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | i got it from berlios not kde svn | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | i think | 09:16 |
| Mez | u using breezy | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | and there should be a configure.in | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | which is fine | 09:17 |
| Mez | Lathiat: I'm the dev | 09:17 |
| Mez | there's a configure.in.in | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | it'l get genned | 09:17 |
| Mez | I'm the prject manager * | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | i dunno | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | try make -f Makefile.cvs | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | then autogen.sh | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | then make -f Makefile.cvs | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | again | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | its dodge++ :) | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | worked for me (tm) | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | im going to bed | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | have fun | 09:17 |
| Mez | mez@apathy:~/dev/katapult/work$ make -f Makefile.cvs | 09:18 |
| Mez | This Makefile is only for the CVS repository | 09:18 |
| Mez | This will be deleted before making the distribution | 09:18 |
| Mez | ./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found | 09:18 |
| Mez | *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!. | 09:18 |
| Mez | *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer | 09:18 |
| Mez | make[1] : *** [cvs] Error 1 | 09:18 |
| Mez | make: *** [all] Error 2 | 09:18 |
| seaLne | did you grab the admin directory? | 09:41 |
| seaLne | or ignore me | 09:42 |
| OculusAquilae | Mez: you have to install automake1.6 | 09:44 |
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