=== Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61A02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A621BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheK [n=KaiL@p548F7BE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1848.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@M1775P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mitsuhiko_ [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mitsuhiko_ is now known as mitsuhiko === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p509065A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] hello kids [01:49] hi Tm_T === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1848.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:01] Riddell: I've heard some complains that 3.5b1 is slower [02:02] than 3.4.2 [02:03] and trouble if filenames include umlauts === JRee [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] <\sh> Tm_T: filenames should _not_ have umlauts [02:21] <\sh> I hate MS for this idea [02:22] <\sh> it gave me a lot of nightmares during my SVN project === JRee [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRee is now known as JRe [02:37] Is it normal that I have media:/ not detecting new devices ? [02:40] JRe: yes, thats normal it think [02:40] OculusAquilae: damn :( [02:40] right [02:41] you could write a patch :-) [02:41] not sure if Riddell is working on it [02:41] OculusAquilae: is it still a hal trouble ? [02:41] i think so [02:47] JRe: try installing this http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase-kio-plugins_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb [02:47] JRe: then killall kded && kded [02:48] \sh: you mean pkirjoitus.odt ? [02:48] \sh: why not [02:48] Riddell: where is the source (i have to rebuild for Amd64) ? [02:50] JRe: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu_23_hal_api.diff [02:50] fixed patch [02:50] <\sh> Tm_T: because it gives you problems with applications, which are using plain "LC_LANG=C" .. [02:50] true [02:50] <\sh> Tm_T: and filenames shouldn't have umlauts at all... [02:51] <\sh> Tm_T: think about the problems with cyrillic filenames or japanese/chinse "umlauts" ,) [02:51] \sh: kubuntu is unicode, any filename should work [02:51] Riddell: I think so too [02:51] Riddell: and does work here [02:52] <\sh> Riddell: right...but filenames shouldn't handled by unicode...I like the 7bit ascii filenames....because it gives nobody headaches..same applies to IDN dns ;) [02:52] thanks Riddell, installed patch [02:52] <\sh> but it's my opinion [02:52] working [02:52] <\sh> ok...going shopping [02:52] Riddell: ok thanks, I'll rebuild kdebase with this pach [02:52] Riddell: why is it not in the repos? [02:54] OculusAquilae: I need someeone elite to review it before I can upload to breezy-updates [02:54] and they seem to be taking the weekend off [02:54] ah ok, so it will hopely be in the repos next week, won't it? [02:54] OculusAquilae: yes [02:55] Riddell: isn't it pitti who does that [02:56] Mez: dunno, ask him === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] a different view on java in ubuntu :-) : [03:14] < gLAsgowMonkey> cool, i just built my first package shame i can't share it because of the license === pef_bbl is now known as pef [03:14] hello [03:14] as aposed to grr java-package etc comments [03:15] how can I find all bugs assigned to Kubuntu team into Malone ? [03:15] no idea, i tried but if you click on the link that says "kubuntu team" it just tell you that *you* have no bugs (or maybe you do) [03:16] pef: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs [03:16] ah [03:17] Mez: thanks ! [03:17] pef: no probs [03:17] pef: I have to know where that is :D [03:25] someone want to close https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/kdebindings/+bug/1784 fixed in current version? [03:25] ho cool there is a kubuntu team now on lauchpad ;) [03:26] and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/kdebindings/+bug/2048 should be closed aswell [03:27] Mez: anyone can join the kubuntuteam? [03:27] JRe... I don't know... ask Riddell... I think it's for people who actually work/upload for it [03:28] Mez: ok so it's not useful for me I can't upload === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62B55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] JRe: join up and I'll approve your name. I've had a few random people try and join but we know and love you so feel free to add yourself [03:29] see: I wasnt sure [03:29] Riddell: can i be admin then ? :P [03:29] or is that for you main-ites [03:30] Mez: not sure, the MOTUs seem to set everyone as admin so maybe that's the thing to do [03:30] I dont think it is... just the people you trust to add other people to the team [03:32] I can't work out how to close seaLne's kdebindings beastie [03:32] "Oops Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad." [03:32] .../ [03:34] Riddell: want to be part of the Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators [03:34] it mainly consists of changing the words like center and color :D [03:34] ah hah, I have to fix it in the given distribution [03:34] Mez: please [03:34] and a lot of copy and pasting [03:34] Mez: nothing wrong with those spellings :) [03:34] seaLne, they are not british english [03:35] thanks to html i like those spellings [03:35] Riddell: lemme create the team [03:36] seaLne: they're polluting our culture, where's your sense of british pride? [03:36] i'm scottish :P [03:36] :D [03:37] scottish == british [03:37] great, lets start the Scots translation team [03:37] "och" and "nay" instead of yes and no? [03:37] ooh. [03:37] Mez: aye and naw [03:37] I wonder if they'll let us translate ubuntu into klingon [03:37] yu [03:37] Mez: only romanised klingon, the alphabet isn't in unicode [03:38] damn [03:43] Mez: would be very difficult :-) [03:43] OculusAquilae, it was a joke [03:43] i know :-) [03:43] be interesting to see how many people used it [03:43] there was a klingon translation of KDE, don't think it get very far [03:44] Mez: theres google in klingon isn't it [03:44] don't know the url [03:44] http://www.google.com/intl/xx-klingon/ [03:46] yes === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:48] hmm, Riddell: why is there no kubuntu project/product in LP [03:48] Mez: what would it be for? [03:48] hmm, I can't make people admins for the kubuntu team launchpad [03:48] hmm [03:48] \sh prob has to do ti [03:49] anyone heard of Sfurdal? [03:49] \sh: can you make people admins on the kubuntu team? [03:49] actually... it's not really that much you need to do tbh... [03:49] \sh is the owner, of course he can [03:49] Riddell: recompiled kdebase with updated patch and everything is working right, now. Thanks a lot! [03:49] JRe: when are you going for MOTU [03:50] JRe: excellent [03:50] Mez: I have to works on package before to gain some more experience [03:51] cool [03:52] oops, I pressed the wrong button for sfurdal and gave him membership [03:54] :) [03:54] deactivated === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:21] hi freeflying [04:54] hi [05:25] Riddell: about? [05:26] Riddell: trying to play with some kde svn stuff and it says AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE not found, any idea what package im missing? [05:28] like, i have automake etc, never had a problem on gnome stuff :\ hrm [05:31] Lathiat: have you run make -f Makefile.cvs ? [05:32] Lathiat: is it trunk or branch? [05:32] Riddell: yeh, thats whats barfing [05:32] trunk/playground [05:32] someone just told me to try unsermake [05:32] Lathiat: trunk is kde 4, no guarantee it'll work [05:32] Lathiat: which unsermake are you using? [05:32] well i was just about to try kdes version [05:32] (im using normal automake atm) [05:32] err [05:32] s/kde/ubuntu [05:33] Lathiat: the unsermake package in kubuntu may well be out of date [05:33] you might want to get unsermake out of svn [05:33] possibly, we'll find out :) [05:33] Riddell: yeh [05:33] also i seem to have to define [05:33] AUTOHEADER AUTOMAKE etc [05:33] (else it tries to execute --version) [05:33] btu other people dont seem to have to [05:33] whats with that? [05:34] dunno, I've never looked at kde 4, there's a wiki page that describes how to make it [05:35] i have the same problems with katapult, fwiw [05:35] exactly [05:35] the defines, and the AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE failure [05:35] avahi works fine, and it uses AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, so it exists [05:35] weird [05:35] patches for katapult very welcome :) [05:36] yeh i want to add smart bookmarks and urls [05:36] if i could get it to start to compile might help ;p [05:36] haha [05:37] lol :D [05:37] katapult seems to be going well [05:39] heh [05:39] i just ran avahi's autogen.sh over it [05:39] works fine [05:40] spooky [05:41] heh [05:41] didnt actually compile tho [05:41] i reran Makefile.cvs [05:41] and now it works fine [05:41] heh [05:44] are you on about katapult? [05:44] both katapult and oKular [05:44] Lathiat: ooh, what's okular like? === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:46] i'll find out shortly :) [05:48] This right-after-release time is soooo boring! No new packages to break my system in new and exciting ways;-) [05:49] :-) [05:49] <\sh> Riddell: u can do it as well :) [05:50] <\sh> Riddell: who should be admin? [05:50] lathiat@qaplaH:~/devel/kubuntupult/trunk/katapult$ ~/devel/avahi/trunk/autogen.sh ; make -f Makefile.cvs [05:50] ;p [05:50] \sh: I can't do it, doesn't let me I don't think [05:50] <\sh> Riddell: hmmm....ok..who? [05:51] mez and jre I think [05:52] <\sh> done [05:52] <\sh> who is sfurdal? [05:52] \sh: how do I do it? I go to https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+members/ and click edit and I don't have an option to make them admin [05:52] <\sh> Riddell: hmmm....it works with firefox [05:52] Riddell:have there any patches to konqueror for cjk [05:52] <\sh> lemme try konqui [05:52] freeflying: none that I know of, what needs fixed? [05:53] "Administrator: yes Yes no No" it's giving me the option now [05:53] we can not copy any file from a dir named in cjk [05:53] I'm sure I didn't have that before [05:53] freeflying: hmm, not heard of that before [05:54] is it the same problem people were having earlier with umlouts? [05:54] <\sh> Riddell: but u were logged in? [05:54] maybe you have not used cjk .:) [05:56] Riddell: will skim be included in the next release [05:57] freeflying: I certainly hope so, I think someone made packages for it but they kinday got lost [05:58] \sh: yes, I could do other changes to people [05:58] Riddell: maybe i'd like to do so [05:59] Riddell:will you accept patch for cjk users? === TheK is now known as KaiL [05:59] <\sh> Riddell: i set now jre and mez as admin.. [06:00] I hope they use it wisely [06:00] <\sh> but who is sfural? [06:01] random guy who signed up, I accidently accepted his membership [06:01] why don't we build the latest release of scim ? [06:02] freeflying: I suspect it's just that none of the developers use it so they havn't noticed [06:02] freeflying: would you be able to update the scim package and make skim packages? [06:03] Riddell: I can make skim package [06:04] freeflying: done packaging before? [06:04] yeah [06:05] cool, let me know if you need any help [06:05] we have some project under ubuntu for we china users [06:05] www.ubuntu.org.cn [06:07] cool [06:07] konqueror doesn't pick up all the characters on that page, quite a pain [06:08] will you list our forum in the kubuntu forums [06:08] what's the URL? [06:09] http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewforum.php?f=6 [06:09] I shall leave for a while .if I need help ,i'll ask for you [06:10] freeflying: ok === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] Lathiat: ping [09:01] Mez: pong [09:01] you said there was some problems compiling kubuntu? [09:01] katapult * [09:01] I seem to be hitting some at the moment [09:02] what were your problems Lathiat [09:03] yeh [09:03] well first of [09:03] i had to export [09:03] AUTOHEADER [09:03] AUTOMAKE [09:04] AUTOCONF [09:04] and then it failed to find AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE [09:04] turned out the solution was to use avahi's autogen.sh [09:04] and not the Makefile.cvs that kde uses in everything [09:04] but i had to run that after [09:04] ;p [09:04] its whack [09:07] hmm [09:08] erm, can you tell me where I get the autogen.sh from? [09:08] svn://svn.0pointer.de/avahi/trunk/autogen.sh [09:08] once i ran that once [09:08] re-running Makefile.cvs seemed to work fine [09:09] i think its something to do with the aclocal -D common thing === Lathiat -> bed [09:11] I dont seem to even have a damn configure file [09:12] Mez: because you generate it [09:12] from the auto-fu sources [09:12] thats what make -f Makefile.cvs is supposed to do [09:12] except its broken, at least for me [09:12] yeah [09:12] but I cant even generat them [09:13] so [09:13] get our autogen.sh [09:13] run that in the dir [09:13] then run make -f Makefile.cvs [09:13] shoudl work then [09:14] mez@apathy:~/dev/katapult/work$ sh ./autogen.sh [09:14] + '[' x = xam '] ' [09:14] + rm -rf autom4te.cache [09:14] + rm -f config.cache [09:14] + libtoolize -c --force [09:14] libtoolize: `configure.ac' does not exist [09:15] Try `libtoolize --help' for more information. [09:15] err [09:15] wrong dir [09:15] go up a dir [09:15] the one below the source? [09:15] yes [09:16] where there is no configure.ac either [09:16] hrm i actually was in katapult/ [09:16] where did you check it out from? [09:16] i got it from berlios not kde svn [09:16] i think [09:16] u using breezy [09:17] and there should be a configure.in [09:17] which is fine [09:17] Lathiat: I'm the dev [09:17] there's a configure.in.in [09:17] yeh [09:17] it'l get genned [09:17] I'm the prject manager * [09:17] i dunno [09:17] try make -f Makefile.cvs [09:17] then autogen.sh [09:17] then make -f Makefile.cvs [09:17] again [09:17] its dodge++ :) [09:17] worked for me (tm) [09:17] im going to bed [09:17] have fun [09:18] mez@apathy:~/dev/katapult/work$ make -f Makefile.cvs [09:18] This Makefile is only for the CVS repository [09:18] This will be deleted before making the distribution [09:18] ./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found [09:18] *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!. [09:18] *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer [09:18] make[1] : *** [cvs] Error 1 [09:18] make: *** [all] Error 2 [09:41] did you grab the admin directory? [09:42] or ignore me [09:44] Mez: you have to install automake1.6 === olwin_ [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-243-77.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:53] aha === Oculus [n=oculus@p548D1848.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=trillian@69-87-142-136.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel