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brosiozhow could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?12:05
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kevogodwtf12:10
kevogodWhat happened to #ubuntu?12:10
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shadeofgreyhi everybody12:15
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shadeofgreyanyone available at the moment?12:15
shadeofgreyi justinstalled kubuntu for the first time... i usually use the gnome version...12:16
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shadeofgreybut i must say...  this IRC client is much better than xchat12:16
libbentrue true12:17
shadeofgreyokay heres anotheer question12:17
Corvusthis ? what client ? konversation ?12:17
shadeofgreycan i install kolnversation on my regular ubuntu system?12:17
Corvusyes12:17
Corvusbut you will have to install kde libraries12:17
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shadeofgreyi already use k3b as my burning programm of choice, so the libraries are already present12:18
Corvusok12:18
libbenthen install12:18
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shadeofgreyheres the most important question...  kubuntu put itself as the primary choice in my grub bootloader...  if i decide to dump kubuntu, how do i safely destroy this partition, and REMOVE thew kubuntu entries in GRUB, and make my other ubuntu installation the primary?12:19
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Phobosanyone know how to change the katapult config?12:19
Tm_Tshadeofgrey: I don't understand...12:19
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Tm_TKubuntu and anohter Ubuntu?!12:20
libbenyes12:20
libbenthats what he says =)12:20
Tm_T"ok"12:20
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shadeofgreyyeah!  i have regular ubuntu on one drive, and this kubuntu installation on another totally seperate disk12:20
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libbenshadeofgrey: u know that there is no diffrence between ubuntu and kubuntu? except the part that kubuntu uses KDE. hence the K in the name12:21
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libbenso if u run ubuntu, just install Kde also.12:21
libbenand u can switch between them two12:21
aciDHeadis 5.10 final ?12:21
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shadeofgreyi didnt want to pollute my regular installation with all of KDE's crap.  and now that i see the results im very thankful i had the forsight to do so12:22
shadeofgreykde, in my opinion, officially blows rancid aardvark balls12:22
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_andreai just installed kubuntu...and installed the nvidia driver...everything seems fine. I mounted a CD with mp3's...but when i try to play, i get some errors12:23
Tm_T_andrea: you propably doesn't have mp3 codecs12:23
_andreathe gst-engine claims it cannot play....12:24
Tm_Tyup12:24
Tm_T!mp312:24
Glin|JolWinamp 5.10 paused12:24
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:24
Tm_TGlin|Jol: ok, Winamp?12:24
paelscritlame, that is12:24
Tm_Tpaelscrit: or mad12:25
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_marcelnabend12:25
_andreaso i use Adept to find mp3 codecs?12:25
_marceloh hi guys ;) wrong channel with wrong language12:25
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paelscrit_andrea: it says this in the kubuntu faq on the site: In breezy you can add MP3 support to K3b by installing k3b-mp3.12:26
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hydrogenerr12:26
paelscritit says to play, but i guess thats burner software12:27
paelscritso i dunno12:27
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_andreathank you :D12:28
_andreanice kubuntu till now12:29
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_andreai like it12:29
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BlankCI cant figure out why my fonts are so different than in 5.0412:32
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alberello2005hi room12:33
alberello2005:)12:33
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libbenwhy in gods world wont adept jump up in the menu? after installing it12:36
libbena bit emberassing. when kind of think of all the promotion and testing for it12:37
paelscritkubuntu runs super slow on my computer12:37
BlankCThe default font for Konsole seems to be different in 5.04 compared to 5.10 I liked the one from 5.04 how do I get it back.12:37
paelscritwhen i run adept it just shows the timer turning in the taskbar then it dissapears12:37
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paelscritugh thats gay12:40
paikanYaKuaKe Power12:40
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St^Anger^19m!mp312:41
Glin|JolWinamp 5.10 paused12:41
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:41
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RogueJediXAnyone alive out here? Got a quick question. I wish to resize my /home partition, but the option to do that in qtparted is dimmed. Any idea why?12:43
BlankCis it mounted right now?12:45
`Nomad!dvd12:46
RogueJediXYes. Should I unmount it?12:46
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras12:46
`Nomad!hoary-extras12:46
ubotuhoary-extras is probably see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:46
Tm_Teeehehe12:46
Tm_Tthat is shut down weeks ago12:46
Tm_Tbeen12:47
`Nomadthe backports you mean?12:47
`NomadWhat's teh deal with no DVD playability? :(12:47
Tm_Tyes that ubuntu-backports-mirrormax12:47
Tm_Thttp://linux.blogweb.de/archives/119-You-want-to-bash-someone.html12:48
RogueJediXI'm gonna try unmounting it, see how that works out then12:48
`Nomad!backport12:48
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:48
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TokenBadcan someone help me get azureus working??12:49
Tm_Tjava :(12:49
St^Anger^19mi need mstcorefonts12:50
TokenBadI got java12:50
St^Anger^19mhow can i do it in kubuntu?12:50
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TokenBadbut it says zip exception error12:50
TokenBadwhen start to download12:51
`NomadSt_Anger:  Do a sudo apt-cache search corefonts to determine teh exact name, then do a sudo apt-get install NAME12:51
RogueJediXCan't unmount it. Says it's busy. Could I set the computer to boot me to root mode and not mount the /home partition12:51
`Nomad!sources-list12:52
ubotu`Nomad: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:52
`Nomad!source-list12:52
ubotu`Nomad: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!12:52
`Nomadlol12:52
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`Nomadpeople use Kopete to come to IRC?12:52
`NomadIs Kopete better than Gaim?12:52
Tm_Tyes12:53
St^Anger^19m`Nomad: didn't find them12:53
TokenBadnow its giving me a gzip header error12:53
Tm_T`Nomad: Kopete is far better than gaim12:53
TokenBadazureus I mean12:53
RogueJediXsudo qtparted12:54
`NomadSt_Anger:  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts12:54
RogueJediXWhoops, sorry12:54
RogueJediXDamned failsafe mode12:54
St^Anger^19mE: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate12:54
`Nomadwhat services are back up?  Why change passords?12:54
`NomadSt_Anger.. Weird, I installed it12:54
TokenBadso anyone know why azureus would give that error?12:54
`Nomad!azareus12:55
ubotu`Nomad: Are you smoking crack?12:55
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`Nomad!azureus12:55
ubotuazureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository12:55
`NomadAhh damn.. Gotta go, the kid wants me to watch a Queen Lattifa movie with her.. Urrrghhhhhh!12:55
`NomadIS there an answer to playign DVDs?12:56
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St^Anger^19m!msttcorefonts12:58
ubotuSt^Anger^19m: Wish i knew12:58
TokenBadI had it working before...with ubuntu12:58
TokenBadnow its not working12:58
TokenBadsince updated to breezy12:58
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Rogue_Jedi_XI just suck at this01:02
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Bicchiis anyone having problems unmounting an ipod using the firewire connection?01:03
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TokenBadwell I am still trying to get azureus working on here now01:05
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soccerfiendonce I have finished updating I will check to see if azureus is still working01:07
apokryphosazureus yuck :P01:07
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apokryphosKTorrent!01:07
satafterhis there a linux command similar to deltree01:08
Rogue_Jedi_XSo, could anyone help me with this resizing the /home partition thingy. Right now it's Puter:Me = 3:001:08
TokenBadrm -r01:08
satafterhthanks01:09
TokenBadwill remove dir and sub dirs01:09
TokenBadapokryphos, I like azureus cause it lets me edit trackers01:09
apokryphosto alter what?01:10
reagleBRKLNtrying to get access to my loop0 dev after a meltdown01:10
TokenBadwell if I need to01:10
reagleBRKLNurd:/root/tmp/etc> losetup /dev/loop0 /media/sda1/external.ext301:10
reagleBRKLN/dev/loop0: No such file or directory01:10
TokenBadsome sites the trackers can be slightly of01:10
naliothapokryphos: my ktorrent just sits and says 'stalled'01:10
TokenBadoff even01:10
TokenBadand with little editing can get them to work01:10
reagleBRKLNok, so i `touch /dev/loop0`01:10
apokryphosnalioth: you must be doing something wrong :P01:10
reagleBRKLN> losetup /dev/loop0 /media/sda1/external.ext301:10
reagleBRKLNioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device01:10
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naliothapokryphos: i dont know what01:10
TokenBadspecially for some sites like torrentspy and stuff01:11
apokryphosTokenBad: sounds cool; ktorrent is, of course, lacking significantly feature-wise 01:11
apokryphostorrentspy generally always seemed fine n' dandy for me01:11
reagleBRKLNi have this in my fstab01:11
reagleBRKLN"/media/sda1/external.ext3  /mnt/external ext3   sync,defaults,user,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0 0 0"01:11
jrattner1Why when my usb drive in konqueror gives me the folllowing error01:12
jrattner1The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.01:12
naliothapokryphos: the same torrents that run fine in console, all just 'stalled' in ktorrent01:12
reagleBRKLNjrattner1: its /media/usbdisk01:12
apokryphosjrattner1: it may not be named that01:12
jrattner1An error occurred loading media:/sda101:12
apokryphosnalioth: odd; what version are you running?01:12
reagleBRKLNjrattner1: known bug01:12
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jrattner1reagleBRKLN, is there a workaround01:12
apokryphosjrattner1: check in media:/ and see if it's there01:13
jrattner1Is there a removable device icon on your desktop at all times?01:13
TokenBadwell I removed azureus and tried to reinstall it01:13
reagleBRKLNjrattner1: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems01:13
TokenBadand it says its not on any of the breezy sites01:13
naliothktorrent 1.001:13
jrattner1reagleBRKLN, usbdisk does not exist, it only says removable device SDA01:13
apokryphosnalioth: may be worth trying 1.1, if you like01:13
naliothapokryphos: from source, i assume01:14
apokryphosyah01:14
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apokryphosI might package it later if I get bored enough 01:14
apokryphosthough I can't package it for PPC oO01:14
jrattner1reagleBRKLN, i dont see any usbdisk, it used to work previously in hoary under sda101:15
TokenBadnope01:15
TokenBadazureus will not install from apt-get or adept or anywhere anymore01:15
jrattner1actually01:15
jrattner1im lieing01:15
apokryphosit's no longer in any repos =)01:15
TokenBadlooks like it01:15
jrattner1if i use the command line usbdisk exists, but not iin konqueror under media01:15
apokryphosused to be in hoary-extras, but sun-java was taken out, so azureus had failed depends01:15
apokryphosthat's down to HAL not working then01:16
TokenBadso have to download from site then01:17
TokenBadthat sucks01:17
TokenBadnow to figure out what version to get01:17
jrattner1apokryphos, so waht should i do01:17
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stodgeAnyone else having problems with the settings window:  http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123007267&idx=401:18
TokenBadshould get azureus gtk, or linux motif, or linux ppc?01:18
apokryphosjrattner1: sit tight and wait for the fix01:18
apokryphosTokenBad: gtk01:18
jrattner1apokryphos, ok01:18
stodgeDamn that URL doesn't seem towork01:19
TokenBadhmm01:19
TokenBadwhats best way to handle bz2 files01:19
stodgetar xvfj <filename> to decompress01:20
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apokryphosTokenBad: untar them :P01:20
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TokenBadlike stodge put or tar xf?01:21
soccerfiendbunzip filename also works, though tar is better if it is .tar.bz201:21
stodgeOr bunzip01:21
stodgeToo slow01:21
soccerfienderm bunzip201:21
stodgeAnyone else having problems with the settings window:  http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123007267&mode=guest    picture 401:22
TokenBadbah I still get the same error01:22
TokenBadeven after remove and reinstalling01:23
stodgeREboot time01:23
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apokryphosTokenBad: what error?01:24
TokenBadbah I am going back to horay or whatever01:24
TokenBadstupid thing01:24
TokenBadits getting a gzip header error01:24
TokenBadwhen try to download01:24
apokryphoshuhh?01:24
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TokenBadit wasn't doing it before updated to breezy01:25
TokenBadthats what it says01:25
TokenBadzipexception01:25
apokryphoswhere is the error?01:25
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TokenBadin azureus01:25
TokenBadwhen I go to download a file01:25
TokenBador should say when start to download a torrent01:26
nimbusHi there! Does anybody know how to get flash support in konqueror?01:26
satafterhyou can get flashplayer but not shockwave01:27
nimbusDoes it work like shockwaves?01:27
satafterhthere maid buy same comapler01:27
satafterhcompany01:27
nimbusGood enough for me...01:28
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nimbusI tried following their instructions (from their web), but it didn't work...01:28
penguinboyGood evening....Geeks, Nerds, and Linux gods!!!!!!!!!!!!01:29
nimbusEvening....01:29
satafterhflashplayer for mozillia is in apt01:29
penguinboyi had trouble with my Badger install01:29
nimbusWill try. But I don't have mozilla...01:29
satafterhthen add mozilla plugin dir  in kon01:30
nimbusHow...?01:30
satafterhfirefox01:30
penguinboyat 6% of base install I got an error....something to do with an unbootstap?????01:30
satafterhconfigure and plugins01:30
nimbusFF is not standard in Kubuntu, is it?01:31
penguinboyno01:31
nimbusThen I don't have that either...01:31
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penguinboyanyone else had Badger install probs?01:31
nimbusRats!01:31
satafterhnimbus setting-configure kno-plugins01:32
nimbusNope! Worked fine for me...01:32
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penguinboyshoot01:32
penguinboyany idea what an unbootstrap error is?01:32
doctorwhitekubuntu is ubuntu...just not gnome oriented correct?01:32
nimbussatafterh: ?01:32
penguinboyyes doc01:33
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penguinboyUbuntu=Gnome.....Kubuntu=KDE!01:33
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doctorwhiteis there one with both...or no?01:34
penguinboyyou can install both doc01:34
doctorwhitewhich iso do i look for...?01:34
trothi just installed kubuntu yesterday and now my sound doesnt work with a startup error message as 01:34
penguinboyfrom Ubuntu just apt-get install kde-package01:34
apokryphosSgep: systemsettings? It of course does01:34
trothSound server informational message:01:34
trothError while initializing the sound driver:01:34
trothdevice: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)01:34
trothThe sound server will continue, using the null output device.01:34
trothne1 know why? please!01:35
doctorwhitepenguinboy, which do u rec?01:35
Sgep"This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu"01:35
penguinboyKubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!1  Gnome is terrible!01:35
penguinboyIMHO01:35
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doctorwhitelol01:35
doctorwhiteok01:35
apokryphosSgep: yup; and?01:36
nimbussatafterh seems to be added allready... It says that "netscape-plugin" under "plugins"01:36
trothne1 know my sound problem please?01:37
penguinboydoes anyone of you Linux gods know why upgrade is not an option on the Badger install???????01:37
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doctorwhiter there any other mirrors?01:39
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penguinboyUSA, Great Britain, and Switzerland i believe01:40
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penguinboydoes anyone of you Linux gods know why upgrade is not an option on the Badger install???????01:41
doctorwhitepenguinboy, the usa dvd one is not fast enough...i get 2501:41
ayahscuse me... could anyone help me with a ntfs read problem? I'm a newbie btw...01:41
penguinboyi know doc...i dl'd from the British mirror last night01:41
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penguinboywhat's your prob ayah?01:41
trothne1 there pls01:42
penguinboyayah... r u double bootin'????01:42
SgepUmm.... Is it ok to let breezy install with KDE running fully?01:43
ayahpenguin, well I have installed the libntfs5 and ntfsprogs from adept in breezy but still can not access my ntfs partition, what did I miss?01:43
ayahpenguin, yes I'm dual bootin with XP01:43
penguinboyfor shame01:43
penguinboyLOL01:43
penguinboyayah...break the bonds that opppress you my man01:44
penguinboyditch the XP01:44
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ayahpenguin, take it easy mate, I'm still learning linux here... :-)01:44
penguinboylol01:44
penguinboylol01:44
ayahpenguin, still trying to not be too dependent on the XP01:44
penguinboyi broke my daily XP habit by deleting it01:45
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penguinboyworks liek a charm01:45
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SgepBut there are some games I really should revisit...01:45
penguinboylike a security blanket????01:45
stodgeI wish adept would prompt me to confirm the updates before it applies them. I don't know what it's going to do01:46
ayahpenguin, well that's why I installed breezy, the thing is, I have to make sure everything that I need works in linux first, since I have never linux in any way before, I'm a virgin here...01:46
Sgepayah: What are you using the computer for?01:46
penguinboylol01:46
ayahpenguin, so now I am trying to make sure that I can interchange files between the two OS first...01:46
trothme too thats why i need help with the fin ishing touches01:46
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Sgepayah, do you have a vfat partition?01:47
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ayahsgep, well mainly doing some work at home, you know spreadsheet and word processing, maybe a bit of presentation, I understand that I can use open office for that, so no prob there... but I also need to make sure that all my files can be moved to linux first...01:47
stodgeCan Kubuntu read NTFS partitions?01:47
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SgepYes, but it can't write.01:48
penguinboysi01:48
Sgep(AFAIK)01:48
stodgeTHat's fine - I need to retrieve some files01:48
stodgeIs there a simple package to install?01:48
SgepDo you know the device it's on?01:48
stodgeI think so01:48
penguinboystodge google TUX Magazine....the October issue talks about sharing files betweenthe 2 oss01:48
stodgeOk01:49
stodgeI've done it on Fedora before but they had an RPM that was downloadable01:49
penguinboyRPMs...blech!01:49
ayahsgep, no i don't... teh prob is, my disk is all used up... and i need to copy my files from the ntfs to the ext 3 partition... but apparently I can't read my ntfs from breezy.. i just did a fresh install and also i have installed the libntfs5 and ntfsprogs from adept but still wont read it...01:49
SgepCan you find it?01:50
stodgeDid you reboot after installing those? It may load kernel modules01:50
penguinboyadios mi amigos y amigas!01:50
jrattner1is there an ubuntu Update manager simlilar to the ubuntu one in gnome01:50
apokryphosthere is in breezy01:51
apokryphosbut it doesn't have a tray-icon, it seems01:51
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t2I need some help01:52
ayahyes i did reboot, i mean breezy recognized the partition fine, but it just wont access it, it has given me the message taht says: could net enter folder /media/hda101:52
Sgephi t2 01:52
t2hi01:52
inc|freakywhat is the sudo for kde called?01:52
Sgepkdesu01:52
t2I created a new parttition to back up some files before I squash most of my hd to put breezy on ...01:52
inc|freakyah, awkay thx ^^01:53
t2and I can only write to it as root01:53
t2I need to copy a directory to it01:53
SgepYou can read from it as anyone?01:53
t2yes01:53
t2well ... I think so   ... theres nothing there to read, so I can't say for sure01:54
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stodgeAdd an option in fstab to let users access it01:54
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SgepHi jsubl2 01:54
jsubl2howdy..01:54
t2I just did the options as defaults ... what do I do to make it full access?01:55
SgepPost the /etc/fstab01:55
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t2/dev/hdb6/vmreiserfsdefaults0001:55
t2^^ the relevant line01:56
SgepReiserFS?01:56
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t2is that a problem?01:56
jsubl2is vmreiserfs correct01:56
t2yes01:56
os2macHi all,,, I have a question about the password screen.01:56
ayahbrb01:56
os2machow do I change it?01:56
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jsubl2me neither01:57
t2not sure it matters, really01:57
os2macI did apt-get on gnome so I would have both GUI's but when it installed it overwrote the Kubuntu passwd screen.01:57
os2maci would like to get it back.01:57
t2couldn't I change ownership of the directory with chown ?01:57
jsubl2os2mac: sudo nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager01:58
t2I was planning to change everything to reiser once I load Breezy, so I made this partition by resizing /home01:58
jsubl2it is still reiser 3 right01:59
t2and made it reiserfs so I can keep the data there once I blow up / and /home01:59
t2as far as i know01:59
os2macand what do I change it to?01:59
jsubl2what do you want01:59
os2macthe original KDE passwd screen.01:59
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os2macrather than the GNOME Ubuntu screen02:00
jsubl2change it to /usr/bin/kdm02:00
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primoturboHey guys I just installed kubuntu from cd02:00
apokryphoscongrats02:01
primoturbodoes kubuntu use xorg.conf?02:01
apokryphosyes02:01
primoturboalright so I can just edit it then02:01
primoturboDoes KDE prevent u from copy and pasting passwords?02:01
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t2maybe it would be easier just to copy the directory using a sudo command ....02:01
t2???02:01
apokryphosprimoturbo: you're gonna have to be a lot more specific02:02
os2macBRB02:02
primoturbosorry, well I signed up for a forum and it sent me a password in mail02:02
t2sudo cp /home/user/vmware /vm    didn't work02:02
primoturbowhen I tried to login on a phpbb forum02:02
primoturboI couldn't paste the password02:02
primoturboalso how do I switch the time to AM/PM?02:03
t2is there something special you have to do to cp an entire directory?02:03
primoturboand sudo command is still used right?02:03
primoturbowhat can I use instead of gedit02:03
naliothprimoturbo: in kde gui apps, use 'kdesu'02:03
naliothprimoturbo: in the terminal for cli apps, sudo is ok02:03
jsubl2t2 cp -rf source target02:04
t2:)  ty02:04
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primoturbowhat can I use instead of gedit?02:04
os2macthat did it thank you02:05
jsubl2kate is gui or nano is console02:05
os2maccould I have vi'd that file?02:05
jsubl2old nix whores like me use vi02:05
t2thanks jsubl2   it worked  :)02:05
jsubl2the default thing yest02:05
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t2now ... off to install Breezy  :)02:06
jsubl2t2: :)02:06
jsubl2yep i am gonna blow in the 64 bit version in a minute02:06
os2macjsubl202:06
jsubl2:)02:06
os2macdo you have time to talk about wireless config?02:06
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jsubl2yeah i do some solaris at work.. i support  3 os'02:06
os2macI do just one, Trusted Solaris 802:07
primoturbowhen I try to sudo kate a file it gives me an error02:07
primoturboError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-primoturbo" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.02:07
primoturboLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"02:07
jsubl2os2mac: i hear trusted in end of line02:07
jsubl2in/is02:07
os2macas in at the end of the line?02:07
os2macor headed that way?02:07
os2macor that I have a dead end job....02:08
jsubl2no.. i have heard no more releases..02:08
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os2macthey will trust me........02:08
jsubl2os2mac: seems like i read that on osnews02:08
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os2macif there is someone willing to pay for the upgrade (and there is) they will make a new version.02:08
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jsubl2yeah lol more than likely02:09
os2macthey have come out and told us that they are ending support. 02:09
jsubl2really02:09
jsubl2hard  to believe they will turn down money02:09
jsubl2sun ain't doin that well02:09
os2macbut I work for a pretty big company and I think they will take what we are offering to certify the new version of Solaris.02:09
os2maccan you answer a wireless config question for me?02:10
jsubl2solaris 11 will be interesting i hope02:10
jsubl2prolly not.. tried the wiki02:10
jsubl2i am desktop wired02:10
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os2macahh... I am running on a wireless laptop02:12
jsubl2is it all workin02:13
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TokenBadgod stupid azureus...02:13
TokenBadwhat is wrong with this thing02:14
jsubl2os2mac: i would kinda like to have a laptop again.. but desktops are so damn fast02:14
reagleBRKLNi'm sure this is a faq now, but are there reps so i can listen to mp3s in juk, use mplayer, kplayer, kaffeine, etc02:14
reagleBRKLNkubuntu 5.10 is much less fun without this stuff ;)02:14
apokryphosall of those, yes02:15
jsubl2reagleBRKLN: sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg i think02:15
apokryphosgstreamer0.8-mad, too02:15
jbeasleyIs there a fix for 5.04 and 5.10 not saving the default gateway?02:15
apokryphosfor videos etc you'll want w32codecs02:15
reagleBRKLNapokryphos: i use arts02:15
reagleBRKLNdoes gstream conflict with arts?02:15
apokryphosobv. not, no02:15
apokryphosyour players (i.e. kaffeine) will use it, too02:16
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reagleBRKLNapokryphos: you tried it with juk?02:16
apokryphosreagleBRKLN: if you get the appropriate packs, mp3s will work with arts too02:17
reagleBRKLNinstalled liblame0 and akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad, juk not working...?02:17
primoturboHow can I move the trash to the desktop?02:17
primoturboThe trash bin to the desktop is what I want02:17
reagleBRKLN> g hidden Desktop/trash.desktop02:18
reagleBRKLNHidden=false02:18
reagleBRKLNprimoturbo: change to true02:18
primoturbofrom terminal correct?02:18
apokryphosreagleBRKLN: have you restarted arts?02:18
apokryphosartsd, that is02:19
primoturboreagleBRKLN: Hmm where do I do the g hidden Desktop/trash.desktop02:19
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primoturbosays g is not a command in terminal02:19
reagleBRKLNapokryphos, ok restart did it02:20
apokryphosprimoturbo: edit that file02:20
reagleBRKLNg is short for grep02:20
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apokryphosprimoturbo: kate ~/Desktop/trash.desktop02:20
reagleBRKLNdarn, muscbrainz in juk still don't work02:20
apokryphoslibtunepimp doesn't have mp3 support unfortunately02:20
apokryphospretty much the only case where I just use the debian package02:20
primoturbokate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.02:21
primoturboI can't open kate for some reason02:21
apokryphosprimoturbo: are you in a root shell or something?02:21
primoturbono02:21
primoturboI'm in KDE02:21
apokryphosodd02:21
apokryphosuse kwrite for now02:21
apokryphosrestart your kde maybe later.. if the problem persists, compile a bug-report02:22
primoturbookay02:22
SgepIs it ok to leave KDE running during the install of Breezy?02:22
primoturbowhere is kwrite?02:22
apokryphosreagleBRKLN: http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libtunepimp202:22
apokryphosSgep: sure, but you should restart after it's finished02:23
SgepRestart KDE, or the comp?02:23
apokryphosprimoturbo: alt+f2 -> kwrite ~/Desktop/trash.desktop02:23
apokryphosSgep: for a breezy upgrade: the comp02:23
Sgepty02:23
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reagleBRKLNapokryphos: amarok* amarok-gstreamer* juk* kdemultimedia* kubuntu-desktop* dependent on libtunepimp2c202:24
reagleBRKLNcan't install the stable deb02:24
apokryphosah, silly me02:25
apokryphoshttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libtunepimp2c202:25
primoturbowhen I edit it to false I get some odd looking icon02:26
primoturboon my desktop 02:26
primoturbonamed trash.desktop~02:27
primoturbowhen I try to open it I get a open with window02:27
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SgepWhy is it that the download is faster when I have it up on my screen?02:27
reagleBRKLNfoo~ are backup files created by some editors02:27
os2macso far so good....02:27
os2macI have corrected a couple of the idiosyncracies that I had problems with02:27
stodgeWhat the heck is the package for playing wmv videos?02:27
reagleBRKLNprimoturbo: u can delete it if you stillhave trash.desktop02:28
primoturbookay02:28
primoturbobut how do I get the trash on the desktop then?02:28
TokenBadok wtf is up with azureus on breezy02:28
reagleBRKLNapokryphos: good try, but still get error connecting to musicbrainz in juk02:28
reagleBRKLNlog out of kde desktop, on reentry should be there02:29
apokryphosreagleBRKLN: works fine here02:29
primoturbois kubuntu really buggy?02:29
primoturboGoing to restart see if that helps :O02:30
primoturbobrb02:30
apokryphosreagleBRKLN: restarted juk, right?02:30
reagleBRKLNapokryphos: yep, and i'm envious, had this bug forever https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892302:31
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apokryphosweird02:32
apokryphosI'd been following http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15708 too02:32
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apokryphosreagleBRKLN: does it work for you in amaroK?02:33
SgepYay! approx 7 min02:33
t2I just realized I AM going to need to know how to mount my new reiser partition and have full user access even after I install Breezy ...02:34
t2so does anyone know the option I need in fstab for that?02:34
reagleBRKLNdon't use amarok02:35
apokryphoswell, try using it now to see if it works02:35
stodgeAnyone know what package this file is in?     X11/Xlib.h02:35
apokryphosstodge: you want the X includes02:36
reagleBRKLNapokryphos: in amarok, "The track was not found in the MusicBrainz database."02:37
apokryphosreagleBRKLN: for every single one you try?02:38
SgepIs KOffice 1.4.2 in Breezy?02:38
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apokryphosSgep: http://packages.ubuntu.com02:38
apokryphosSgep: or, from here: /msg ubotu info koffice02:38
reagleBRKLNapokryphos: yep02:39
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apokryphosreagleBRKLN: you *definitely* installed the appropriate libtunepimp2c2 deb?02:39
SgepIf 1.4.2 has important fixes, why does Breezy use 1.4.1?02:39
apokryphosit was out too late for it to get in for breezy, most likely02:40
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t2what option do I need for reiserfs to give users full access to the mounted partition???02:40
stodgeapokryphos: DO you know hte package name?02:40
apokryphosSgep: er, 1.4.2 came out on Thursday?02:40
SgepBut KDE 3.4.3 came out very shortly before Breezy (IIUC)02:40
apokryphosstodge: libx11-dev02:41
apokryphosSgep: but packagers had it a couple of weeks before that at least02:41
stodgeah thanks02:41
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SgepYay! Done downloading02:42
SgepSome strange sounds are coming from my CD drive02:44
soccerfiendt2: can you be more specific02:45
reagleBRKLN*** 0.3.0-9 002:46
reagleBRKLNapokryphos: 02:46
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t2I need to have full user access (read & Write) to a reiserfs partition I created ... I am mounting it in fstab, but only root has write access as it is (defaults)02:49
t2would noattrs do it?02:49
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Comte0t2: mount -o remount,rw ?02:50
soccerfiendchmod02:50
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soccerfiendchmod /path/to/mount/point02:50
soccerfiendchmod 0777 -R /path/to/mount/point02:50
trothi have a sound problem, when my system boots it gives this error, http://pastebin.ca/25527 help if you can pls02:51
t2would that be permanent?02:51
soccerfiendyes02:51
soccerfiendtroth: lsmod |grep snd02:52
t2I'm thinking I'd like to change the option in fstab so it always mounts with full access02:52
soccerfiendtroth: what is the output02:52
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Comte0t2: if root can write on it, then the fstab is good02:52
omarHello02:52
omarI am using kubuntu i need msn02:53
SgepIf I wished to look into an iso file without mounting or burning it, how would I do that?02:53
omarand c++ compiler >s02:53
Hobbseeomar: kopete, or gaim, or amsn02:53
Hobbseekopete should already be on there02:53
t2? so I can't make it so users can write, too (in fstab)?02:53
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omarjust somthink msn02:54
soccerfiendum, what you are talking about is file permissions02:54
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omarkopete dont vork02:54
Hobbseeomar: all of them do msn02:54
Hobbseethen use gaim02:54
Hobbseeor amsn02:54
soccerfiendI am using kopete right now02:54
crimsunkopete works for me02:54
crimsun(msn-wise)02:54
omarmessenger.hotmail.com this came allways02:54
soccerfiend(for msn, not for irc)02:54
omarI cant log mee in02:54
t2ok ...  then I'll go with the chmod thing  ...  thanks02:55
soccerfiendt2: unless you are talking about extended acls, chmod is the tool that you need02:55
Sgep * Stopping deferred execution scheduler...                                                                        [fail] 02:55
Hobbseekopete also works for me, with msn02:56
t2<--no idea what that means02:56
omarThat sucks for me i am from Iceland not good in english i have a little einglish book <D02:56
soccerfiendSgep: what do you mean by looking into an iso?02:57
SgepBeing able to see the files on it without requiring root access or burning it02:57
Comte0Sgep: there's an user option to mount for that02:58
t2I'll stick with the chmod ... I wrote it down for use after I install breezy02:58
t2which I'm going to do right now  :)02:58
SgepWhere?02:58
t2c ya02:58
trothsoccerfiend: sorry, ok i typed that in which number do you want?02:58
tambookiHi all; I did a search for this on the forums, but "sudo hang" don't give particularly good results. Here's my problem:02:58
tambookisudo seems to be messed up; I can sudo fine one or two times, but then it will just hang.02:59
tambookiNot the command I'm invoking; sudo itself.02:59
tambookiAnybody else seen something like this?02:59
Hobbseetambooki: try kdesu instead of sudo03:00
Hobbseesee if that hangs as well03:00
soccerfiendtroth: the lsmod |grep snd03:00
soccerfiendtroth: the lsmod |grep snd?03:00
trothyes, here ill pastewbin the whole thing03:01
tambookiYeah; hangs there too...03:01
trothsoccerfiend: http://pastebin.ca/2552903:02
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soccerfiendtroth: ok that looks good03:03
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trothk03:03
soccerfiendtroth: try running alsamixer from the command line, does it show the sound device at the top?03:03
omarThis amsn look grates thank uou >D03:03
starscallinghey03:03
starscallingany clue on making mkv's work?03:04
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trothsoccerfiend: yes , but it says usb device?!?! mine is biult into the mother board, i can paste this to if youd like03:06
soccerfiendtroth: what kind of system is this?03:06
trothintelP3 733mhz w/kubuntu03:06
omarWhere can i cahnge the language on the keyborf in kubuntu ???03:07
soccerfiendok, on the volume icon in your task tray, click the mixer option03:07
trothk opened03:07
inc|freakylinux had echd einiges draufgelegt seitdem ich es vor 1 1/2 jahren das letzte mal draufhatte ;D03:08
omarWhere can i cahnge the language on the keyborf in kubuntu ???03:08
soccerfiendK -> system settings -> Region & Accesability -> Country and region03:08
omarkeybord**03:08
trothok i just switched it over, that  might ve been it!!03:08
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soccerfiendtroth: do an ls -la /dev/snd/03:09
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soccerfiendtroth: Do you have any funky USB devices?03:09
tambookiNobody has any ideas on the sudo issue :| ? 03:10
starscallingt minus a bit for debian install....03:10
soccerfiendungh, debian03:10
soccerfiendmy favorite for headless boxes03:10
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soccerfiendbut not for my laptop03:10
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trothsoccerfiend: just webcam, and mouse, not an aquarium or lava lamp, or something03:10
soccerfiendtroth: are you running breezy?03:11
trothno03:12
soccerfiendgo to the system settings (or whatever it was called), and then sound and multimedia03:12
Sebastianhow do i upgrade kubuntu from konsole?03:12
Hobbsee!update03:13
ubotuHobbsee: Wish i knew03:13
Hobbseehmmm03:13
HobbseeSebastian: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade03:13
soccerfiendtroth: also what do you have when you run `ls -la /dev/snd`03:13
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Sebastianok03:14
Sebastiani will type that on konsole03:14
Sebastiani am on xp right now03:14
Sebastiani iwll email this ot myself and when i boot on kubuntu03:14
Hobbseeah, you need to be in kubuntu to do it03:14
Sebastianyes03:14
Sebastiani know that03:14
Hobbsee:P03:14
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trothsoccerfiend: http://pastebin.ca/25530 the results03:15
SebastianHobbsee: Tapadh leat03:15
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ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html03:15
ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix this is the offical reply that rms sended me:03:15
ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Da: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>03:15
ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Oggetto: Re: gpl version 303:15
ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Data: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:24:16 -040003:15
ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix I think that http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6222 is the location03:16
ob3lixob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix of the interview.03:16
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HobbseeSebastian: what?03:16
soccerfiendtroth: run fuser /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c03:16
soccerfiendtroth: and do that for all the devices03:16
soccerfiendtroth: all the devices that start with pcm03:17
apokryphosargh, now that is annoying03:17
SebastianHobbsee: Thank thee in Gidhlig/Scottish03:17
trothk03:17
Hobbseean..right03:17
Hobbseeno problems03:17
Hobbseei dont speak Scottish lol03:17
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trothsoccerfiend:it keeps saying no such file or directory03:20
omarHey i am trying to log me in the control panel i have one password but i can't log me in >S03:20
Hobbseeit's not working with the password created during the installation?03:21
soccerfiendoops, I gave you my device03:21
omarI am using the password i create in installation03:21
soccerfiendtroth: fuser /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c03:22
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trothit did nor said nothing03:23
crimsuntroth: what's the issue?03:24
soccerfiendtroth: did you try it with all the pcm devices?03:24
soccerfiendtroth: is sound not working, or was it just that error at startup03:24
trothi have a sound problem, when my system boots it gives this error, http://pastebin.ca/25527 help if you can pls03:24
stodgeAnyone mounted an ntfs drive?03:24
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trothnot working, no startup noise, no audio cds nothing03:25
crimsuntroth: that's because your primary sound device currently only supports capture03:25
stodgels: /media/windows/: Permission denied03:25
omarHow can i take print screen }03:25
omar>>03:25
omar??*03:25
crimsunstodge: did you mount the NTFS partition with umask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000 ?03:25
crimsunstodge: (you really only need umask=022)03:26
stodgeNo - just found the FAQ for it :)03:26
trothcrimson:do you know how to fix?03:26
crimsuntroth: cat /proc/asound/devices03:26
Mezhmm03:26
Mezanyone know how to do "alt" codes in kubuntu?03:26
crimsuntroth: sorry, cat /proc/asound/cards03:26
trothok ive been here03:27
crimsuntroth: I need the output03:27
trothcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/2553103:28
soccerfiendMez: sorry, I just use kcharselect when I need an od character03:28
crimsuntroth: which sound device do you want to use by default?03:28
SgepMez: Activate the Compose key03:28
SgepThen Compose ' e would give 03:29
soccerfiendtroth: try unplugging the web cam03:29
trothcrimsun: well i dont have a usb sound card so id would say the intel03:29
stodgeCool - kmail imported all my old thunderbird emails from ntfs :)03:29
omarHey i need help with languge for my keybord03:29
Mezsh: kcharselect: command not found03:29
trothk ill try that03:29
crimsuntroth: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base03:29
trothit does have a mic....03:29
Mezno, I want the alt+0160 fake space thing03:29
crimsuntroth: of course you have a usb sound device03:29
omarHow can i tak a print screan03:30
crimsunthe Web cam is a sound device03:30
soccerfiendomar: system settings -> region & accessibility03:30
SgepLikethis?03:30
trothi see...03:30
soccerfiendomar:then country/region and lang03:30
trothshould i unplug or run that command first?03:30
crimsuntroth: run that command first03:30
omarsoccerfiend i found it thank you03:30
jrattner1Is there an ubuntu update manager lfor KDE03:30
trothk03:30
crimsuntroth: no need to unplug03:30
omarbut how can i take a prin screan03:30
omarscreen**03:30
crimsuntroth: then run this: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload03:31
omarI kill the main chat :D03:31
trothwell too late for that03:31
crimsuntroth: no big deal, but you need to run that command I just gave you.03:31
trothk03:31
crimsun(both the echo and the invoke-rc.d)03:32
trothshould i unplug first?03:32
jrattner1Is there an ubuntu update manager lfor KDE?03:32
stodgeWhat happened to /ld.so.conf?03:32
crimsuntroth: you don't need to unplug03:32
stodgeWhat happened to ld.so.conf?03:32
trothk03:32
stodgeWhere is it?03:32
soccerfiendjrattner: kynaptic as well as adept03:32
crimsunstodge: why is it necessary?03:32
stodgeI need to add library paths for compilation03:32
crimsunstodge: then you pass them to configure03:33
trothcrimsun: k uploaded drivers and some stuff03:33
crimsuntroth: now log out of and back into KDE03:33
trothk brb03:33
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omarwhere can i get somethink like Outlook Express on linux ?03:34
_robomar - thunderbird (by mozilla), kmail (by kde), evolution (by gnome) take your pick03:35
_robhow do i go about upgrading my hoary install to breezy? is it just a matter of updating my /etc/apt/sources or is there more to it?03:35
soccerfiendyou should be able to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade03:36
soccerfiendI just finished doing this on my home box03:36
_robsoccerfiend: what repo's do you have in your apt sources list?03:36
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soccerfiendlots03:36
stodgeconfigure? Bah I feel lost without ld.so.conf! :)03:36
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soccerfiend_rob: I had the hoary backports, clamav, and a debian source03:39
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_robwhat ones specific to breezy do i need?03:39
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soccerfiendas well as universe multiverse restricted 03:40
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trothcrimsun: it WORKS!!! cant thank you enough03:41
trothsoccerfiend: you too, thanks a million man!03:42
soccerfiendnp, I should have picked up on the web cam earlier03:42
_robsoccerfiend: this may sound a bit pedantic.. but would you beable to msg me the breezy specific lines you have please?03:42
troththats exactly what it was, it was reading my web cam as output rather than input03:42
soccerfiendwell they are both sound devices, input/output doesn't really matter03:43
_robim an old time linux, freebsd user.. but im new to debian and its apt system03:43
soccerfiendno worries rob, I have been using debian for a while... are you going to be around for a while?03:43
_robyeo03:43
soccerfiendI just rebooted my home router and it is not up03:43
_robyep.. 03:43
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soccerfiendso it will take ~20 minutes to drive there03:44
_robim sitting here trying to learn some QT, updating my system is something to distract me (and probably get in the way) of learning03:44
_roboh.. damn i hate that03:44
omaromar@localhost:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird03:44
omar./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:44
_robhahah03:44
omarS:03:44
_robthe perils of remote admin03:44
omar:S03:44
crimsuntroth: np03:44
omarHelp03:45
soccerfiendmy laptop was a breezy install, if you are interested in that sources.list it can be found at: http://pastebin.ca/2553203:45
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omaromar@localhost:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird03:46
omar./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:46
omarhelp03:46
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soccerfiend_rob: I wouldn't go from hoary to the config I have for my laptop03:47
soccerfiendbrb anyway03:47
arkanjoHi ! I'm from brazil and dont speak english very well :( ..... but I testing the Easy Kubuntu, and my sources.list has a fail entry .. :( and original I dont have backup bcause Easy Kubuntu rewrite the backup each time is started ..   anybody, send me a good sources.list to Kubuntu 5.10 ???03:49
jsubl2!sources03:50
ubotufrom memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:50
arkanjoErr http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages  404 Not Found03:52
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arkanjo> Err http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages  404 Not Found03:52
arkanjoand a Kubuntu entry ?? here I has this error " 03:52
penguinboyGood evening, Geeks, Nerds, and Linux gods!!!03:53
jsubl2hello.. i know i fit one of those... not sure which03:54
penguinboylol03:54
penguinboyI just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?03:55
penguinboyany at all?03:56
penguinboytap...tap...is this thing on?03:57
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penguinboywelcoem stonefree04:02
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penguinboywelcoem jbeasley 04:02
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penguinboyI just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?04:03
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penguinboywb doc04:04
doctorwhitethnxs04:05
doctorwhitegonna give kubuntu a try soon04:05
penguinboykewl04:05
penguinboywhat distro are you coming from?04:06
doctorwhiteiv used fedora/rh for 7 yrs, suse/opensuse fer 4 months, freebsd here and there04:07
doctorwhitehate suse//opensuse04:08
penguinboyi hear freebsd is a totally different learning curve04:08
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doctorwhitenot that bad04:08
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penguinboyhey ubuntu a question please04:09
penguinboyI just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?04:09
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jrattner1is there an update watcher similar to the one in ubuntu for kubuntu04:11
HillTopI'm using kubuntu pr live CD. It displays my two USB jump drives and moounts them fine BUT the 5.10 final CD does not. Why? Thanks.04:12
penguinboyjrattner1: the only difference is Gnopme and KDE04:12
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jrattner1penguinboy, you know how gnome has the update manager in the top right04:13
jrattner1is there one for kde04:13
penguinboyyes04:13
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HillTopQ for anyone, seems like a step back to not show USB drives in final version of kubuntu live.04:13
troygday folks04:13
jrattner1penguinboy, whats it called04:14
jrattner1HillTop, im having that same problem as you04:14
jrattner1HillTop, but in kubuntu not live04:14
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jrattner1atleast KDE bluetooth works nicely04:15
jrattner1: )04:15
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Lord_Athurhi04:15
HillTopoo, jrattner1, not good. Now you may be able to fix it with a change in /etc/fstab to be what the pr version is.04:15
jrattner1penguinboy, what is the applet called04:15
penguinboyi think i am gonna reinstall the Hedgehog!!!04:15
jrattner1HillTop, ??/04:15
jrattner1HillTop, whats the revision04:15
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jsubl2penguinboy: check the wiki there is some laptop info there04:15
penguinboywhat is the addy04:16
jsubl2http://wiki.ubuntu.com04:16
penguinboygracios04:16
Lord_AthurWhere can I get a very good sources list? the default list of kubuntu is terrible04:16
Kaiser_sleepsanyone know some good places to go to get games that run under [k] ubuntu?04:16
HillTopjrattner1, I didn't note what the current one has, the pr version has only three lines. I think the first on eis important, but I don't understand it.04:16
Kaiser_sleepsLord_Athur: define 'good'04:16
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penguinboyLord_Arthur there is a good sources.list at http://www.irclikelife.com/othershit/04:17
SgepI think my system is in an unstable state04:17
HillTopjrattner1, hte first line is:/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 004:17
Lord_Athur:D04:17
Kamping_Kaiser!games04:17
ubotu[games]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/04:17
Lord_Athurkalenedrael, I need a add to my source list a  web page for install wine with apt-get04:17
Sgep...04:18
Kamping_Kaiser!tell lucychili about games04:18
jrattner1HillTop, if i change that it will work??04:18
SgepI have some sort of error, and I'm unable to access any webpages04:18
SgepMay I paste the thing in #flood?04:19
Lord_Athurkalenedrael, what should I do?04:19
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kalenedraelHmm?04:20
kalenedraelThat's odd, do you know me or something?04:20
kalenedraelYou just started randomly asking me questions. :P04:20
penguinboylol04:20
HillTopjrattner1, what do you see now?  We need help from a guru here on this. 04:20
penguinboylol04:20
kalenedraelYou edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, by the way.04:20
SgepSome help?04:20
penguinboysudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list04:20
Lord_Athur:D kalenedrael I'm sorry I made a mistake I've tried of ask to Kamping_Kaiser 04:21
Lord_Athur:D04:21
penguinboyKK is probably asleep!!!04:21
Kamping_Kaiserlol Lord_Athur04:22
Kamping_Kaiserno, back now penguinboy :)04:22
SgepSomeone please help me04:22
Lord_Athur.P04:22
Kamping_KaiserLord_Athur: you need universe to have wine04:22
penguinboyKK i need your help when you are free04:22
Lord_Athurok04:22
Kamping_Kaiserlol. i should be eating lunch, but im here for a bit pb04:22
Lord_AthurI'm searching the universe web pages for add04:22
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Lord_Athur.D04:23
HillTopjrattner1, I have a vfat hard disk with data, but can't figure how to mount it. :/04:23
penguinboyi know i should rtfm....but I am lazy....and like to pick the brains of the Linux gods.....my wife does not work in Badger but worked just fine in Hedgehog...what should I do?04:23
penguinboywife??????04:24
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penguinboylol04:24
penguinboywifi04:24
Kamping_Kaiserlmao04:24
Kamping_Kaiseryour wife has a bug ;)04:24
penguinboylol04:24
penguinboyKK what should I do?04:25
penguinboyand don;t say rtfm04:25
penguinboypuleese04:25
thoreauputicpenguinboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure wife  ;-)04:25
Kamping_Kaiserpenguinboy: do you use the windows driver ?04:25
Kamping_Kaiserlol thoreauputic04:25
penguinboyno windows drivers04:26
Kamping_Kaiserso you use the native one ?04:26
penguinboysi04:26
Kamping_Kaiserum.04:27
penguinboyI am thinking I should reinstall Hedgehog....then use apt-get to update Hedgehog to Badger?????04:27
Kamping_Kaisernot entirely sure :| i dont use wifi, so i dont know where to start :| are you sure the cards on?04:27
Kamping_Kaiser*forgot to turn on a wifi card and spent 4 hours try ing to fix a network* :(04:28
penguinboyi did not know you cold turn them on and off04:28
Kamping_Kaiseris it a desktop wifi? you can ususly turn off laptop wifi04:29
penguinboyno laptop 04:29
penguinboyshould I reinstall Hedgehog?04:31
penguinboydo you think04:31
Kamping_Kaiserpenguinboy: give them a week and do an upgrade, and if its not fixed, A. file a bug, and (optionaly) B resintall04:32
penguinboyk04:33
penguinboyhow do you apt-get an upgrade to 5.1004:33
Kamping_Kaiserbbl. food :(04:35
HillToppenguinboy, you need to change the repository file, then do thet apt commands. 04:35
penguinboyadios mi amigo04:35
penguinboychange the repository from hoary to badger?04:36
SgepWhy can't there be an upgrade CD?04:36
penguinboyi agree sgep04:36
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penguinboyif you have Hedgehog you cannot type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to Badger04:40
HillToppenguinboy, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradingubuntu04:41
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HillTopSgep, how are you here asking questions? There are sites selling distro CDs for a few US$ and ubuntu sends them out free.04:43
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penguinboythanks HillTop04:45
penguinboyI think I am going to go reinstall Hedgehog, edit my sources.list to reflect breezy, apt-get dist-upgrade, and see if tat keeps my wifi intact04:45
RavenskyI'm trying to install amaroK from their subversion source, but it cant find autoconf. Do I need to add it to my PATH? I installed it...04:46
penguinboyadios mi amigos y amigas!!!!04:46
RavenskyComo esta?04:47
penguinboybiene04:47
Ravenskybien04:47
Ravensky:P04:47
RavenskyTienes un mono en tus pantalones?04:47
penguinboylol04:47
penguinboylol04:47
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`Nomad!sources04:48
ubotuit has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)04:48
penguinboydonde es mi pantalones?04:48
Ravenskyheh04:48
RavenskyTu madre es una vaca!04:49
penguinboySe siente realmente bueno tener un mono en mis pantalones! 04:50
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evilsoccer_rob: what was site that I pasted earlier?04:52
penguinboySu madre es el mono en mis pantalones! 04:52
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penguinboyadios mi amigos y amigas04:54
jsubl2so long 04:54
trothk i got an easy one, i just got the bit torrent and bit tornado packages w/kynaptic, how do i access them to run  the prog?04:55
_rob[14:46]  <soccerfiend> my laptop was a breezy install, if you are interested in that sources.list it can be found at: http://pastebin.ca/2553204:55
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evilsoccerI did not want to fire up the laptop04:55
evilsoccerthanx04:55
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evilsoccer_rob: here is my current sources.list04:57
evilsoccerhttp://pastebin.ca/2553504:57
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epAny idea why sound doesn't work in 3d games.  I works in most other stuff.05:09
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RichardCok05:11
RichardCdone05:11
RichardCnow, is there a list of repositories i can use for 5.10, like the one found at ubuntuguide.org?05:12
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RichardC...05:14
RichardCnevermind05:14
RichardCjust realized kubuntu uses the ubuntu repositories05:14
RichardC:/05:14
RichardCnew problem05:16
RichardCif anyone is listening05:16
RichardCkate wont run05:16
RichardCkonsole says it probably crashed05:16
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RichardCrichardc@milton:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:17
RichardCError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-richardc" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.05:17
RichardCLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"05:17
RichardCkate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.05:17
frank23RichardC: you cannot use sudo with kate05:19
frank23RichardC: use kdesu kate instead05:19
RichardCok05:20
frank23RichardC: you will have to kill kate as well using ksysguard or something05:20
RichardCthanks05:20
RichardCwhy cant i use sudo w/ kate?05:20
frank23RichardC: I don't know exactly.... sudo is made for command line programs but it also works with gnome apps05:21
RichardCso i should use kdesu instead of sudo?05:21
frank23RichardC: yes it is the only way it will work05:22
RichardCis that only for sudo, or does it apply to most programs with kubuntu?05:22
frank23RichardC: if you want to start a kde app as root you need kdesu05:23
RichardCok05:23
RichardCthanks05:23
frank23np05:23
`Nomad!dvd05:33
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras05:33
`Nomad!hoary-extras05:34
ubotuit has been said that hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:34
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Readyhi can help me why me resolution only 640x48006:00
Readyi wanna change 800x60006:00
Readyhello sir ?06:01
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arntGo to K menu, System settings and then Screen06:05
Readyi does06:06
Readysame06:06
komittihye everybody06:06
Readynothing happen06:06
komittianyone can help me with my java?06:06
Ready800x600 disaper from list06:06
troyprobably X drivers... ewww06:06
komittii want to install java to my kubuntu06:06
komittihello06:06
arntare you bejind a virtual machine or something like that 06:06
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Readyi think i have format this HD again06:07
troykomitti: same as ubuntu - see: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre ... although it's for ubuntu 5.04, it can be adapted to 5.10 quite easily06:08
Chameleon22can someone pm me a breezy sources.list please, i want to do a dist upgrade 06:08
arntHave u ever managed to have a linux distro use 800X600 in your hdw06:08
troyChameleon22: see http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy06:09
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HillTopReady, when you installed, what resolution were you using?06:09
Ready640x480 now06:09
Readyit very very suck06:09
Chameleon22troy, i need the correct KDE lines though 06:09
Ready800x600 not show on list06:09
komittianyone?06:10
komittihallo???06:10
troyChameleon22: it'll work for kde for official kubuntu06:10
troyChameleon22: the kubuntu packages are in the ubuntu repos06:10
Chameleon22troy, uh ye i forgot lol, i was pointing to kde repos :p06:11
troyChameleon22: the kde repos are for unofficial kde release that happen between *ubuntu releases mostly -- for example, 3.5beta is in there06:11
troyChameleon22: all the official packages are in the normal repos06:11
HillTopReady, when you boot the ubuntu CD, use a vga code to get the resolution you want; I used live vga=794 to get 1280x1024. 1024x758 is 791. 800x600 is 788.06:12
Chameleon22troy, ok thanks06:12
ReadyHillTop when boot from cd use type rescue on console ?06:13
HillTopReady, when you boot, you use a command, see help on F4 or F5. It sets the video, then when install to HD the same settings continues. It did on earlier Warty and Hoary for me.06:14
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RyNSkiWould this be an alight place to ask about a Kubuntu 5.10 problem?06:18
RyNSkialright.06:18
RyNSkiAnyone alive?06:18
HillTopRyNSki, sure. Someone might know...06:20
RyNSkiAlright, here goes...06:20
RyNSkiUpgraded to 5.10...06:20
RyNSkiKDE's media:/ no longer works for USB drives.06:20
RyNSkiTells me media:/sda1 does not exist.06:21
RyNSkiThe machine DOES mount the FS under /media/usbdisk06:21
RyNSkiBut KDE can't see it under the media section.06:21
HillTopRyNSki, I had the same problem so I booted up kubuntu 5.10pr (one week old release) and it worked fine there. It must be a difference in /etc/fstab06:22
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RyNSkiYeah, I believe it worked in RC1, but I couldn't swear by it.06:22
caveHello? First boot here~ 06:23
RyNSkiI don't use it every day...06:23
HillTopDo you have the earlier version? I am in 5.10pr now (live) and so haven't made the comparison. There are only three lines   in the fstab.06:23
HillTopHi cave.06:23
caveHello HillTop 06:23
RyNSkiNah, I only have 5.10 now.06:24
cavethis is my first time using Kubuntu (or Ubuntu for that matter)06:24
RyNSkicave: what version?06:24
cave5.10 live06:24
troyI'll check it here in my version - one second06:24
caveas soon as im done toying around i'll download the install iso06:24
RyNSkiGot a USB drive to hook up to it? ;)06:24
troyyes06:24
HillTopRyNSki, look at the first line of /etc/fstab mine says /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 006:24
RyNSkiMine's /proc.06:25
cavei got the live first because i was afraid it wouldnt detect my hardware, but i was pleasently surprised :)06:25
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RyNSkiYeah, it does a pretty good job.06:25
troymine no longer works - worked a few days ago - maybe the very sudden switch to 3.4.3 did it in...06:25
RyNSkiEvery upgrade seems to break something for me.06:25
HillTopRyNSki, yes, two USB thumb drives auto showed up on desktop on booting to live CD and then right click to open. And I could write to them.06:25
RyNSkiThe one prior to this broke firefox altogether.06:25
caveyea... I was using SimplyMepis, but that install got screwed up when I downloaded Gnome o.o;06:26
RyNSkiI'm considering installing fresh... but I'd be really pissed if I did and hot noplace better. )06:26
caveand i figured i'd rather try something new instead of re-installing it06:26
troyworked less than a week ago for me -- also, the ATI GL drivers broke in the last few days too06:27
caveturns out i'm liking Kubuntu more so far (altough i havent used it for over an hour yet)06:27
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HillTopRyNSki, I don't see Firefox here in kubuntu. It is not a very complete walking around CD but does show and tell OK.  KNOPPIX, never leave home without it.06:27
RyNSkiFirefox is something that you gotta add, I believe.06:27
RyNSkiWhich I did.06:27
RyNSkiBut some minor release upgrade, I think to 1.0.7 broke it as anyone but root.06:28
RyNSki5.10 has since corrected that one, thankfully.06:28
RyNSkiBut here:06:28
RyNSki Hi,06:28
RyNSkiThis a know problem with KDE 3.4.3 (media:/ does not make use of HAL) and according to what I know, a fix will come soon.06:28
RyNSkiWe all have to be patient Wink06:28
RyNSki06:28
HillTopcave, what live/install CDs do you have? ubuntu, kubuntu?? Have you tried ubuntu?06:28
RyNSkiI found that on the bugs site.06:28
RyNSkiSo maybe 3.4.3 breaks media:/06:28
cavei have simplymepis 3.3 live and kubuntu 5.10 live06:29
HillTopRyNSki, I didn't see Firefox on the list. And Mozilla failed to load.06:29
cavei'm rather new to linux... still very much a newbie06:29
caveive tried gnome and kde tough, and decided I liked kde better, so i went for kubuntu instead of ubuntu06:29
cavebesides i dont care for the whole ethnic people huddling thing ubuntu has going on :P06:30
HillTopRyNSki, I wonder if they will ussue a new kubuntu liveCD? :)06:30
frank23cave: kde is definitly more familiar coming from windows06:30
caveit felt more customizeable too06:31
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frank23cave: "ethnic"? aren't brazilians "ethnic"? ;-)06:31
cavei'm a big fan of that... if you saw my windows install you wouldn't think it was windows at first glance :)06:31
HillTop<cave> I use KDE also. Favorite distro for that right now is pclinuxos. But I follow ubuntu/kubuntu closely because I have more than one machine. :)06:32
caveisn't everyone " ethnic" ? ;-)06:32
jrattner1how do i get glxgears to produce FPS06:32
frank23cave: hehe06:32
HillTopcave, the ubuntu ethnic thing is recent, it will pass... :)06:32
isaidoes centrino work 'out of the box'?06:33
RyNSkiI'm running Kubuntu off my harddisk anyway.06:33
isaiI can't seem to setup the network connection (after install).06:33
frank23jrattner1: do you see the gears?  in my case it's so slow that you don't see the fps... games still work fine though06:33
cavei didnt mean to start a racial debate here, i just thought it looked corny :P06:34
jrattner1frank23, i see the gears06:34
jrattner1how can i get the FPS06:34
RyNSkiMy other problem is a lot of the KDE modules, when I tell them to go into the admin mode, they spin for awhile and don't do anything.06:34
jrattner1also, is there a tool for kubuntu similar to the ubuntu update manager06:34
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frank23jrattner1: do you see them turning at like 1 turn a second?06:35
cavecan i install firefox from the livecd? o.o;06:35
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orugohi06:35
jrattner1frank23, they are quite fast06:35
orugoi've installed 5.1006:35
orugoi have problems with my spanish translation :(06:35
frank23jrattner1: yeah they should be really fast06:36
HillTopRyNSki, if you install ubuntu first then add KDE desktop you end up with both but maybe the both will work better than kubuntu. Just wondering...06:36
jrattner1frank23, they are how can i get it to report FPS06:36
chavojrattner1,  glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark06:36
frank23jrattner1: before the fps would appear on the console06:36
jrattner1frank23, it doesnt anymore06:36
jrattner1chavo, im serious06:37
frank23chavo: I thought that was a joke LOL06:37
chavotry it06:37
jrattner1how do you get it to list FPTS06:37
HillTopcave, you might be able to install from the firefox site from the tar files.06:37
chavoits for real06:37
jrattner1hahaha06:37
jrattner1it is for read06:37
jrattner1real06:37
jrattner15734 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3146.755 FPS06:37
frank23ohhhhh  I get 6000Fps but I still see them rotating at one turn a sec06:37
jrattner1thats pretty good06:37
orugothe new kubuntu  hasn't the kynaptic06:37
propagandhihas anyone else had a GPG error with apt-get recently06:37
frank23I thought something was wrong!06:37
orugoit comes with a different package manager06:37
isaihow do I change my keyboard mapping?06:38
fogthe new package manager is called Adept06:38
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cavemeh.. i'll just wait till i install it06:38
isaiI am stuck in spanish but my keyboard is in english06:38
jrattner1will the HAL problem be fixed tomorrow06:38
orugoisai hablas espaol?06:38
fogK -> System -> Pakcage Manager (Adept)06:38
isaiyep06:38
frank23isai in system stettings -> Regional06:38
elad`How do I make a command (xmod -e pointer = "...") run whenever X is initiated?06:38
isaifrank23: does that change it for the entire system or just KDE?06:39
propagandhiI still have kynaptic, synaptic and adept, I'm getting a GPG error from the terminal using apt06:39
orugoisai: que tal esta tu traudccion? porq mi kubuntu 5.04 era 100% en espaol pero ahora tiene cosas en ingles (muchas cosas)06:39
frank23isai: not sure...06:39
jrattner1is adept or synaptic better?06:39
frank23jrattner1: I like synaptic better but I think it's just because I'm used to it06:39
propagandhii personally think adept sucks06:40
frank23adept is a HUGE improvement over kynaptic06:40
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fogsynatipc was nice to see which packages were "official" ubuntu06:40
isaiorugo: KDE esta en ingles como lo quiero sino el teclado esta en ingles (es una computadora portl o sea un laptop).06:40
frank23!es06:40
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:40
jrattner1frank23, i like synaptic too, i hope tomorrow the problem with reconising USB diisks are fixed?06:40
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judaxadept will get there, it is much better than kynaptic06:41
frank23jrattner1: I don't have a usb disk but updates which are not security related sometimes take a while06:41
jrattner1frank23, its more a fix...06:41
jrattner1frank23, breezy doesnt see  usb drives in konquereor06:42
fogblah, kscd autoruns no matter what i do...I've unchecked autoplay in the config panel but it always comes back checked06:43
caveOk question: Aren't my hard drives supposed to appear on my desktop on the LiveCD?06:43
chavosynaptic with gtk-qt engine is perfect06:45
cavethere's nothing on my /mnt folder... could it be that my hard drives weren't detected? i remember the mepis livecd gave me access to them06:46
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elad`xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5"06:46
elad`I need this to be initiated when I start X.06:46
elad`HELP. Please.06:46
elad`I've been trying to get this working for an hour now.06:46
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novosirjWireless sucks, etc.06:46
HillTopcave, I thought so too, I don't see and hard drives even tho one is fat32 which should show up. :/06:47
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cavemine too06:47
cavemaybe its just in the livecd? 06:47
cavei wanted to test musiic playback but i cant :S06:47
HillTopcave, the codecs aren't in the ubuntu/kubuntu set. You have to load them from third parties (patent issues etc.) But they are readily available. 06:48
caveoh06:49
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Vivaldihello06:49
Vivaldidoes the dvd image contain more packages than the cd iso?06:49
Vivaldii am not talking about the live option. it does not count06:49
Vivaldii just want to know if the dvd iso has more packages when installing06:49
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caveVivaldi: from what i read the dvd is just the live + the install isos06:50
Vivaldioh ok thx06:50
propagandhianyone have an idea about this : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/310406:50
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danl_bhow do you access kdm theme manager?06:55
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danl_bn/m i ish stupid06:56
satafterhhttp://counter.li.org/06:56
HillTopdanl_b, try right clicking places like the desktop06:57
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danl_bi just over looked it in the system settigns window06:58
danl_bim half asleep06:58
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Dark_Sithmorning07:01
cavetoo bad this livecd doesnt include azureus.... im gonna go back to windows now to download the install iso07:01
caveif all goes well i'll be back in a couple of hrs :)07:01
cavesee ya guys07:02
HillTopgood luck cave07:02
cavethanks!07:03
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HillTopsatafterh, how do they count ?? and not count multiple entries? by the user machine's address?07:06
Pablo_Cok... n00b question....  I installed 5.10 and when I got to my  system settings---> network settings  The networks settings page is taller than my resolution is tall so I cannot click the admin tab to make changes... any suggestions?07:07
Pablo_Cand my lappy is running as high of resolution as it can07:07
satafterh#HillTop no idea, i just came across it and thought others might be interested07:07
satafterhHillTop - i posted it in the mandriva site and some guy so a real asshole, thought linux was about shareing and open info, he just turned he right off07:09
HillTopsatafterh, I signed up some time ago #365505 -- now I see they are at lower numbers.  Something is broken there!07:09
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frank23Pablo_C: shitty solution but you can right click the border and select move07:11
Pablo_Chmm07:12
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satafterh#HillTop I dont really know much about it, I thought it was interesting though07:13
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Pablo_Cfrank23, I can do full screen and I can see the buttons... Thanks... move wont let me move the top border above the top of the screen... and I can resize cause I cant grab the bottom of the window07:14
Pablo_Cbut fullscreen will do it07:14
Pablo_C:)07:14
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whurleyanyone install 5.10 on a new powerbook G4 yet?07:15
kihajiwhat would be the reason that adept is not accepting my su password, when the shell does07:15
whurleyI'm seeing a big diff from what the liveCD produced vs. the install (sure it's a minor issue, but its escaping me) 07:16
HillTopwhurley, does the install work better than the live CD?07:20
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whurleyactually 07:20
leonardi am back again07:20
whurleythe install is far worse than the liveCD07:20
Draconumhey... I'm looking for some help...07:20
frank23!tell me about w32codecs07:21
HillTopDraconum, theere are 115 here, what is your question?  :)07:21
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DraconumI'm needing help with installing kubuntu on my ubuntu... but i'm not entirly sure about what todo.07:22
leonardu need to run a new installation07:22
leonardfrom scratch07:22
frank23what?07:22
frank23no07:22
leonardkubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu 07:22
Draconumyeah07:22
Draconumthats what I'm looking for...07:22
DraconumI'm just really new to linux :P07:23
frank23Draconum: install kubuntu-desktop  07:23
frank23in synaptic07:23
leonardit returns errors07:23
Draconumsynaptic?07:23
leonardapplications>install application07:23
leonardsorry, ADD APPLICATIONS BUTTON07:24
Pablo_Cmeh synaptic is gone... now it is Adept07:24
frank23Draconum: right   use adept07:24
frank23Draconum: no, wait right now you have ubuntu, not kubuntu, so you use synaptic07:25
Draconumok how do I find synaptic?07:25
novosirjWith both hands.07:25
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frank23in the menu... I don't remember exactly07:26
DraconumWell thanks for that usfull information..07:26
Draconum:P07:26
RyNSkiHeh, I'm feeling sarcastic. :)07:26
RyNSkiRun it from a terminal if nothing else.07:26
Draconum:P07:26
RyNSkiI don't use Ubuntu.07:26
RyNSkiIn Kubuntu it's in the KDE menu.07:26
leonardclick on applications on the bottom extreme left07:26
RyNSkiUnder either System or Utils.07:26
Pablo_Cor apt-get kdedesktop somthin or other07:26
RyNSkiI always forget which one.07:26
leonardon the applications menu07:26
leonardthen click on Add applications07:27
Draconumok i'm in Synaptic...07:27
Draconumnow what?07:27
leonardclick on file07:27
frank23Draconum: search for and install kubuntu-desktop07:27
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_jakeanyone here?07:27
frank23no07:28
HillTophi _jake07:28
RyNSkiThere are instructions in the FAQ of kubuntu.org that contain the actual package name -- I forget it myself, but I assume those folks are correct.07:28
_jakehi07:28
leonardclick on file, then clic on advance then click on search then type kubuntu 07:28
Draconumok thanks...07:28
leonardi don't like kubuntu07:28
_jakeii click administrative mode in ANYTHING in the control panel, and it doesnt actually go to admin mode07:28
leonardi bet, you will revert back to ubuntu07:28
leonardkde sux07:28
RyNSkiRight you are, _jake.07:28
leonardgnome is much better07:28
Draconumit is now installing :D07:28
frank23_jake: is this hoary or breezy?07:28
_jakebreezy07:28
Draconumor downloading firstly07:28
RyNSkiAnd I don't know why either.07:28
RyNSkiIt didn't work on Hoary for me either.07:29
_jakeman07:29
RyNSkiLuckily, I don't /really/ care.07:29
frank23_jake: this is a known and unfixed problem07:29
RyNSkiOtherwise I'd be upset.07:29
_jakedamn07:29
frank23_jake: try kdesu kcontrol07:29
Draconumso anyways... umm yeah... I;m not able to get my sound working either...07:29
_jakei think i will go back to ubuntu, i just wanted to acess my other harddrive with the music on it :(07:29
leonardi can't seem to play mpeg and mp3 using totem07:29
_jakei tried that it hung up07:29
frank23leonard: install gstreamer0.8-mad07:29
leonardi already did07:30
RyNSkileonard: I much prefer KDE.07:30
RyNSkiI find Gnome to be fugly.07:30
leonardKDE looks and feels like windows07:30
RyNSkiEh, somewhat.07:30
RyNSkiNot really though.07:30
DraconumSo what do people usally use linix for?07:31
Draconumjust...07:31
frank23RyNSki: its close enough to Windows to not be lost in it07:31
Draconumaverage stuff?07:31
RyNSkiThat's true.07:31
leonardeverything07:31
RyNSkiDraconum: What do people use computers for? There's your answer.07:31
RyNSkiDo you mean "why?"07:31
Draconum:P07:31
RyNSkiAs in why did I switch?07:31
_jakebut its so weird and i cant get anything to work in KDE07:31
_jakei admit, its beautiful, and it has the capability of being something really versatile and amazing07:31
Draconumyeah07:31
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RyNSkiAnd the answer for that one is Windows got slower and slowre.07:31
RyNSkier07:31
leonardKDE messes up my graphics07:32
Draconumah07:32
RyNSkiSo on my latest re-install, I said, screw that.07:32
Draconumyeah07:32
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leonardi can't get the right resolution of my screen in KDE07:32
DraconumI'm still a windows user... 07:32
RyNSkiActually, that's not what I said, but I'm not sure if we swear in here.07:32
DraconumI just wanted to try linux out as well07:32
_jakei had so many problems with windows, and it always just made me angry, and i didnt like the ethics of microsoft07:32
HobbseeDraconum: tried a live cd?07:32
RyNSkiThat's another one.07:32
leonardlinux is the best operating system 07:32
_jakeand i like the versatility and diversity, and liberty of the open source community07:32
Draconumso I'm running both OS's on the same system.07:32
Hobbseewindows annoys me...every time i have to boot there...07:33
DraconumYeah07:33
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HobbseeDraconum: nice, that works07:33
RyNSkiOh, another answer.07:33
Draconum:D07:33
RyNSkiI stuck with Windows for the games.07:33
DraconumYeah07:33
HillTop_jake, I hear ya. :)07:33
RyNSkiAnd then I realized, when's the last time I played a game?07:33
RyNSkiAnd that was the nail in the coffin.07:33
leonardmy only problem is applications for linux07:33
frank23Draconum: yeah keep windows if you need it. I can only change songs on my mp3 player with windows07:33
Draconumyeah07:33
_jakeok well tonight, i am gonna sleep: morning: reinstall ubuntu, i was having problems with grub but i solved them07:33
RyNSkiI do that at work.07:33
leonardi have certain applications like Actix Analyser i use for windows07:33
_jakegnight all07:33
RyNSkiI wonder if there's a way to do it in Linux though.07:33
RyNSkiJust haven't looked yet.07:34
strike4ceHow do you save a file as executable?07:34
RyNSkiMine's a palm.07:34
DraconumI do alot of webmaster work07:34
Draconumbut I'm planning on getting a mac for that.07:34
RyNSkiAnyone know off the top of their head?07:34
Pablo_Cchmod 777?07:34
frank23strike4ce: chmod +x  filename07:34
strike4ceCan anyone help me?07:34
Draconumthan window will just be used for games and what not07:34
leonardCan i install linux on a Mac?07:34
RyNSkiYessir.07:34
Draconumyes07:34
strike4cein terminal?07:34
RyNSkiYes.07:34
Hobbseestrike4ce: nope, not without more info07:34
strike4cefrank23: in terminal07:34
RyNSkistrike4ce: What are you really talking about?07:35
frank23strike4ce: yeah 07:35
RyNSkistrike4ce: There is no such thing as an executable file.07:35
strike4cetrying to download java07:35
leonardis there flight simulator for linux?07:35
RyNSkistrike4ce: There are files with execute permissions set.07:35
satafterhanyone know why dvdauthor will not install properly from atp-get or any other manager?07:35
RyNSkistrike4ce: But any file can have them.07:35
frank23strike4ce: is java 1.4 good enough? get it in multiverse07:35
strike4cehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc6808707:35
HillTopstrike4ce, depends on how the file was created. Compile a C program, make a bash script?07:35
Hobbseestrike4ce: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/07:35
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strike4cefrank23: read that07:35
Hobbseeleonard: there are a few, never tried them, they're in adept07:36
Draconumis X-Chat supose to make a sound when somebody reply's?07:36
Draconumor says something?07:36
RyNSkiYeah, I needs me some Java. I haven't gotten it yet.07:36
frank23strike4ce: they should change that webpage07:36
satafterhthey are they call restricted07:36
HobbseeRyNSki: check out my link above07:36
Hobbseethey have the debs there and make it really simple :)07:36
frank23strike4ce: enable multiverse 07:37
leonardlinux is compiled on which programming language?07:37
strike4ceHobbsee: where does that deb file go?07:37
strike4ceHobbsee: how do i open it07:37
Hobbseewherever you like.  home directory07:37
frank23leonard: C and C++07:37
RyNSkistrike4ce: man dpkg -- you want dpkg -i in this case.07:37
Hobbseethen, in a console "sudo dpkg -i sun(tab)"07:37
RyNSkistrike4ce: dpkg -i <filename>07:37
RyNSkiOh... right... sudo.07:37
strike4ceHobbsee: it opened kate07:38
RyNSkiI'm so not used to the sudo deal.07:38
RyNSkiSave it, don't open it.07:38
leonardwhat about Windows? just curious07:38
Hobbseeahem, kdesu, before i get in trouble for it again :P07:38
frank23leonard: C and C++ I'm sure07:38
Draconumdoesn't windows have some Basic in it?07:38
leonardthe c and c++ used to compile these OS run on which OS?07:39
frank23Draconum: maybe...07:39
RyNSkiHeh, the ol' chicken and the egg.07:39
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RyNSkiAnd voila, I have the Java.07:40
Draconumalmost a minute before kubuntu is done downloading07:40
frank23leonard: the windows compilers run on windows, gcc runs on everything you can imagine07:40
HobbseeRyNSki: :D it's far easier doing it that way!07:40
RyNSkiAnd I'll be damned if I remember what I wanted it for.07:40
HobbseeDraconum: yay!07:40
HobbseeRyNSki: LOL.  something07:40
frank23RyNSki: azureus?07:40
leonardi still don't understand how Windows/linux could be written using C/C++ that run on Windows/Linux07:41
RyNSkiLooks like it mighta been TripWire Manager. Nope... that's still broken... heh.07:41
frank23leonard: C is just a programming language07:41
strike4ceRyNSki: why save it?  its already on my desktop07:41
RyNSkiOh.07:41
DraconumI wonder why it's called C... why not like... W or A or Q?07:41
Draconumlol07:42
RyNSkiI thought you were opening it from a browser.07:42
Hobbseestrike4ce: in a console: cd Desktop07:42
Hobbseestrike4ce: then "sudo dpkg -i sun(tab)"07:42
Draconumanyways I'll be back in a bit...07:42
Draconumkubuntu time!07:42
Hobbsee:D07:42
HobbseeDraconum: enjoy the new installer07:42
Hobbseemore clear than the old one07:42
DraconumWill do.07:42
leonardThanks Frank07:42
strike4cewhat console?07:42
RyNSkiAnyone know anything about libstdc++07:42
RyNSkistrike4ce: Open "Konsole."07:42
Hobbseekonsole07:42
strike4celol sorry please have patience with me07:43
leonardso there must be some primitive OS which can understand this programming language right?07:43
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Hobbseestrike4ce: no problems, for future reference, most commands that people give you will go in the console - it's easier to explain that way07:43
RyNSkiI suppose I should install those w32codecs too.07:43
Hobbseelol07:43
Hobbseecould do, yeah07:43
Hobbseewonder if i installed them...think i did07:43
RyNSkiI hate adding repositories.07:44
RyNSkiEvery time I do, one has new versions of all my current stuff.07:44
RyNSkiAfter doing "update", nothing works. ;)07:44
strike4ceHobbsee: I did cd desktop and got this: No such file or directory07:44
Hobbseecase sensitive07:44
Hobbseecd Desktop07:44
RyNSkistrike4ce: EVERYTHING is case sensitive.07:44
Hobbseeunless you've renamed it07:44
RyNSkiNearly.07:44
Hobbseeit's really annoying lol07:44
RyNSkiHobbsee: He hasn't. ;)07:44
Hobbsee:P07:44
Hobbseedidnt think so07:44
RyNSkiHobbsee: Why?07:44
RyNSkiI love that it's predictable.07:45
Hobbseewhat, case sensitive?  cos i can never remember which are case sensitive folders, and which arent07:45
strike4ceSo I need to rename it?07:45
Hobbseeno07:45
RyNSkiWhat you type is what you get.07:45
Hobbseejust "cd Desktop"07:45
Hobbseeso true07:45
strike4ceAHHH!!! LMAO07:45
RyNSkiI like getting what I ask for. :)07:45
Hobbsee:P07:46
RyNSkiY'know, "give me Java dammit" "Oh, have some Java." etc.07:46
Hobbseeyou can do a "dir" to check that you're in the one you wanted to be it07:46
Hobbseelol07:46
Hobbseeand see if the filename is there07:46
RyNSkils -la -- get out of the habit of using dir and you'll be a lot better prepared for UNIX, etc.07:46
Hobbseeah...07:46
RyNSkiOr just ls.07:47
Hobbseeooh pretty!07:47
Hobbseeyeah07:47
Hobbseetried that one first07:47
RyNSkiI doubt dir works on SunOS, etc.07:47
RyNSkiOoh, ls is color, dir is not.07:47
RyNSkiInteresting.07:47
Hobbseevery07:47
Hobbseemuch more pretty in colour :P07:47
RyNSkiSo true.07:47
RyNSkiNow to find libstdc++ in the form that TripWire wants.07:48
Hobbseething i want to know is, can linux shut down computers remotely via a command, like MSDOS lol?07:48
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about wine07:48
Hobbseethat was fun during school!07:48
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RyNSkiNah.07:48
RyNSkiLinux is a lot less retarded.07:48
RyNSkiYou'd have to actually try to have your machine be that insecure.07:48
_bridgetdlinux... was ever retarded?07:48
HillTopHobbsee, use pwd to see working directory07:49
_bridgetdim just pissed i dont have xchat installed yet07:49
RyNSki...if it isn't in your prompt. :)07:49
strike4ceHobbsee: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('07:49
RyNSkiWhoa now.07:49
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RyNSkiWhat on earth did you type? :)07:49
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RyNSkistrike4ce: What did you type?07:50
Kamping_Kaiser!tell chili_kaiser about wine07:50
RyNSkiNo.07:50
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RyNSkiYou tell him or her about wine.07:51
Hobbsee!wine07:51
RyNSkiHeh, goes to show where my mind is... completely forgot about WINE and was thinking wine.07:51
Hobbseewonder if that link still works...07:51
RyNSki!wine07:51
Hobbseehehe07:51
RyNSki"Someone already said that 20 seconds ago."07:52
strike4ceHobbsee: dpkg -i sun(tab)07:52
Hobbseeyeah, but it doesnt show thru here now07:52
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Draconumerr...07:52
Draconumok07:52
RyNSki...which sounds like something a person would say.07:52
DraconumI installed the package.07:52
Draconumnow what.07:52
RyNSkiBut not actually mean 20 seconds.07:52
RyNSkistrike4ce: The TAB key, not (tab).07:52
RyNSkiTAB completes a filename.,07:52
strike4ceLMAO07:52
Hobbseehehehe...very useful that07:52
DraconumI don't know what todo from here.07:52
strike4cesorry guys or girls?07:52
Hobbseegirl here07:53
satafterhwhat a good tool for divx2dvd?07:53
HobbseeDraconum: you downloaded the breezy kubuntu cd, right?07:53
Draconum... no07:53
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Draconumam I supose to ?07:53
Draconumlol07:53
Hobbseewhat'd you download, i dont think i was here early enough07:53
Hobbseewhat are you trying to do lol07:53
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RyNSkiI miss the /trout command.07:53
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Hobbseeoh darn!  it's not there!  i've not noticed it before07:54
DraconumI'm trying to get ubuntu switched with kubuntu07:54
RyNSkiI guess there's a way to set an alias in this thing.07:54
RyNSkiIt's been awhile.07:54
HobbseeDraconum: ok, so what'd you install?07:54
RyNSkiThe /trout command is in mIRC.07:54
Hobbseeah...07:54
RyNSkiIf I recall correctly.07:54
strike4ceNUTS!07:54
Hobbseethis is konversation07:54
RyNSkiAs is this.07:54
Hobbseestrike4ce: what?07:54
DraconumI went to synaptic and installed the kubuntu-desktop thing from there...07:54
strike4ceno such file in directory07:54
Draconumnow I don't know what todo07:54
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Hobbseestrike4ce: are there any other debs on your desktop?07:55
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HobbseeDraconum: log out, hit session manager, pick kde07:55
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Draconumok07:55
sergeUsb keys don't work in the Breezy final ?07:55
RyNSkiNope.07:56
Hobbseeusb keys should work...07:56
Hobbseereally?07:56
Hobbseei thought i tried that07:56
HillTopUSB failed for me too.07:56
bjvi doubt it?07:56
RyNSkiI'd call it bull@#%t, but I still don't know if we swear in here. ;)07:56
sergeYes, key is mounted as /media/usbdisk, but Kde search /media/sda107:56
RyNSkiHowever, I think it's a KDE bug.07:56
RyNSkiIt looks in media:/sda1, different deal.07:56
bjvwhere did you hear they would not work?07:57
Hobbseewhich kde are you using?07:57
RyNSkimedia:/ is supposed to know where it's going.07:57
RyNSki3.4.307:57
Hobbseeworks here, 3.5 beta07:57
sergeBefore the final Brezzy, it's work fine.07:57
bjvthey are just usb mass storage devices..07:57
jagodragoncan any one help me with scanner trouble07:57
strike4ceHobbsee: no debs07:57
Hobbseemedia:/ finds it07:57
RyNSki3.4.3 is broken.07:57
RyNSki3.4.2 was good.07:57
Hobbseestrike4ce: then where'd you save the deb file that you downloaded?07:57
HobbseeRyNSki: nothing's stopping you from upgrading to 3.507:57
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Draconumwhoot07:57
DraconumI'm ahppy07:57
RyNSkiThe word Beta is stopping me. :)07:57
HobbseeDraconum: :D07:57
Draconumand i like how it looks :D07:57
Draconumnow..07:58
HobbseeRyNSki: it's sounding like it works better than 3.4.307:58
Draconumjust to get my sound working07:58
RyNSkiOh, I felt the burn there.07:58
RyNSkiLOL07:58
strike4cehmmm should I have downloaded j2sdk1.5?07:58
HobbseeRyNSki: it may be a beta, but it's been a very stable beta since it was released...07:58
RyNSkistrike4ce: Nope. j2re.07:58
Hobbseeno, you should have gotten the jre07:58
RyNSkiJava Runtime Environment.07:58
kihajihow come I cannot get any gui app to accept my root password, yet the commandline does07:58
HobbseeDraconum: what type of soundcard do you have?07:58
strike4ceok jus sec07:58
RyNSkiUnless you're into Java coding... which pardon me, but from the sound of it... hehe. :)07:59
DraconumI have an onboard Creative 24-bit07:59
sergeKde 3.5 beta is perhaps stable, but it is not translated (i'm french).07:59
HobbseeDraconum: in alsamixer (in konsole), are all the channels turned up07:59
DraconumI'll check07:59
Hobbseeserge: ah ok, that's a pity07:59
HobbseeDraconum: after that, mute the inputs called line jack sense and headphone jack sense07:59
Hobbseethen try07:59
RyNSkiHow would I go about upgrading>?08:00
Hobbseeadd the 3.5 reps to your sources list08:00
Hobbsee!3.508:00
ubotuHobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:00
Hobbsee!kde3.508:00
ubotumethinks kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:00
Hobbseeback in a sec08:00
RyNSkiThat sounds like a good idea.08:00
RyNSkiIs it almost out though08:00
RyNSki?08:00
RyNSkiubotu: You're wrong.08:01
ubotuRyNSki: I don't know, could you explain it?08:01
strike4ceHobbsee:  do i need the first file or second?08:01
strike4cesecond says update?08:01
strike4ceWhy when i download does KATE open?08:02
Hobbseeback08:02
HobbseeRyNSki: the link didnt work?08:02
strike4cescroll up08:03
jagodragontry to dowload as tar and install manuslly08:03
Hobbseeyeah, but that's painful lol08:03
RyNSkiNot the first one, no.08:03
jagodragonyes but works08:03
RyNSkiIt's a 404.08:03
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strike4ceI get a warning that the file is a binary and saving it will result in a corrupt file???08:03
Hobbsee!kde3.508:03
ubotuit has been said that kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:03
jagodragonyes sam problem08:04
Hobbseenow...how do you change this bot...08:04
Hobbseehttp://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php is the correct link08:04
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strike4cewhy does kate open when I download that file???08:04
strike4cejre08:04
Hobbsee!no, kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:04
Hobbseebummer, that wasnt it08:05
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Draconumerr.. I can't find Alsamixer.08:05
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strike4ceHobbsee: is KATE supposed to open when I save a file?08:05
Hobbseestrike4ce: no08:05
Hobbseewhat browser are you using to download the file?08:05
RyNSkiubotu: kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php08:05
ubotu...but kde3.5 is already something else...08:05
strike4cekonqueror08:05
Hobbseeit should just save regardless, i thought08:06
Hobbseeif you've got another browser, try that instead08:06
RyNSkiubotu: You are still wrong. ;)08:06
ubotuRyNSki: I think you lost me on that one08:06
RyNSki!help08:06
strike4ceok08:06
kinfoAvailable commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status08:06
Draconumwhere do I find Alsamixer?08:06
RyNSki!mod kde3.508:07
Hobbseeubotu, kde 3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:07
ubotuRyNSki: Bugger all, i dunno08:07
ubotuHobbsee: okay08:07
Hobbseeyay!08:07
Hobbsee!kde3.508:07
ubotuhmm... kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:07
dodoaloooo08:07
Hobbseebummer08:07
RyNSkiYou set something else.08:07
Hobbseeexactly08:07
Hobbseeit should have taken it08:07
pussfellergah, konqy still opens links in freakin temp08:07
pussfellerwhy am i the only one that finds this intolerable08:08
RyNSki!mod kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php08:08
ubotuRyNSki: okay08:08
RyNSki!mod kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:08
ubotu...but mod kde3.5 is already something else...08:08
Hobbseeasking nalioth - he knows how to do this stuff08:08
strike4ceHobbsee: ok this time im using firefox08:08
RyNSkiOh hell.08:08
RyNSkiHehe.08:08
Hobbseeright08:08
RyNSki!del kde3.508:08
ubotuRyNSki: Are you on ritalin?08:08
strike4cewhenever i open firefox i get some missing file warning ubuntu artwork?08:08
RyNSkiLOL08:08
RyNSkistrike4ce: Me too. I changed my start page.08:09
Hobbseegive us a second, and stop reprogramming the bot08:09
Hobbseei got told how to do it...08:09
Draconumhow do I get to Alsamixer?08:09
DraconumAnybody?08:09
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HobbseeDraconum: open a konsole08:10
RyNSkiI was reading the help... <shrug> but it's not what I thought.08:10
Hobbseetype "alsamixer"08:10
strike4ceHobbsee:  That was it konqueror was screwing it up08:10
pussfellersimce i upgraded my vts are gone08:10
Hobbseestrike4ce: i always use firefox, so i wouldnt know08:10
pussfelleralt+function does nothing08:10
RyNSkiHobbsee: The reason yours didn't work is that you didn't set kde3.5, you set kde 3.508:10
RyNSkiWith a space.08:10
Draconumit says mixer elems not found08:10
strike4ceHobbsee: it set it up do I need to do anything else?08:10
RyNSkiWhich was not already defined.08:10
pussfellererr cnt alt f08:11
DraconumHoddsee: is says mixer elems not found.08:11
strike4cewhat is a good torrent to use?08:11
Hobbseeah...08:11
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Hobbsee!forget kde 3.508:11
ubotui forgot kde 3.5, Hobbsee08:11
kinfo[kde]  is not defined08:11
Hobbsee!kde3.508:11
uboturumour has it, kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:11
DraconumMobbsee: it says mixer elems not found.08:12
Hobbsee!forget kde3.508:12
ubotuHobbsee: i forgot kde3.508:12
kinfo[kde3.5]  is not defined08:12
Hobbseeit isnt now...08:12
Hobbsee!kde3.508:12
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Hobbsee08:12
Hobbseeexcellent08:12
strike4ceok it said jre was set up am I done?08:12
RyNSkiI've still got it in my buffer if you like.08:12
Hobbseeubotu kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:12
ubotuokay, Hobbsee08:12
Hobbseeexcellent08:13
RyNSkiWord.08:13
nalioth!kde3.508:13
ubotuwell, kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780008:13
Hobbseethanks nalioth, i fixed it08:13
naliothwonderful08:13
Hobbsee:)08:13
RyNSkiI get an error actually.08:13
RyNSkiWhen trying to update.08:13
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Hobbseewhat error?08:13
RyNSkiGPG error.08:13
naliothall entries into ubotu are logged by time and user08:13
satafterhkde 3.5 pretty stable?08:14
naliothRyNSki: disregard the gpg error08:14
Hobbseegrab the key from that page as well08:14
strike4ceHobbsee: it terminal says jre is setup do i need to go to adept now or is it installed?08:14
Hobbseesatafterh: yes08:14
Hobbseeno, it's installed, assuming you did dpkg -i filename.deb08:14
RyNSkiShould I log off KDE first, you figure?08:14
satafterh#Hobbsee you using it?08:14
strike4ceyes08:14
Hobbseesatafterh: you bet08:14
RyNSkiI'd imagine I should.08:14
HobbseeRyNSki: when you do, you should reboot08:14
Hobbseeor there's some quicker way to do that, which i never remember08:14
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strike4ceso the tab command finds the file name?08:14
RyNSkiHere's one for you...08:15
Hobbseeand it's not ctrl+alt+backspace08:15
RyNSkiMy VC's don't work anymore.08:15
satafterhHobbsee- long now youve had it?08:15
Hobbseestrike4ce: it'll complete the filename for you08:15
DraconumHobbsee: When I type "alsamixer" in the konsole it says "no mixer elems found"08:15
strike4cecool08:15
RyNSkiI don't know since when... a day or two at max.08:15
RyNSkiCTRL-ALT-F2... nothing there.08:15
Hobbseesatafterh: when was it released into beta on the kubuntu site again?  since then08:15
strike4ceWhat a good wifi manager I cant set up secure with kwifi it locks up08:15
RyNSkistrike4ce: I've been using iwconfig on the command line because KWiFi is broken.08:16
HobbseeDraconum: sounds like your sound didnt get configured at all then...wonder what the command is to check08:16
strike4cesomeone said wireless assistant08:16
bjvi dont understand, if i have to create /etc/apt/apt.conf..08:16
bjvthen where was ubuntu getting it's configs before?08:16
RyNSkibjv: What are you talking about?08:16
RyNSkibjv: The sources file?08:16
RyNSkiOr actually apt.conf?08:16
Hobbseebjv: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d in that folder?08:16
bjvRyNSki: no the apt.conf08:16
Hobbseethere should already be a file there08:17
RyNSkiIt probably has defaults.08:17
bjvi see 2 files, when i cat them they just have short strange gobblty-gook.08:17
RyNSkiOh...08:17
RyNSkibjv: There an apt.conf.d08:17
RyNSkiIt's not a file, it's a dir.08:17
HobbseeRyNSki: VC's not working any more?  what are vc's?08:18
RyNSkiVirtual consoles.08:18
Hobbseechecked the shortcuts in system settings?08:18
RyNSkiMe?08:18
HobbseeRyNSki: yep08:19
RyNSkiNo, not what I'm talking about... here...08:19
Draconumthis is bugging me08:19
RyNSkiKnow that to get back it's going to be ALT-F7, if you don't do this normally.08:19
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RyNSkiBut try CTRL-ALT-F1.08:19
Hobbseectrl alt f1 is giving me tty1, ie console 108:19
RyNSkiIt will bring you to a text console if your machine isn't broken like mine. Mine brings me to a blank screen.08:19
Hobbseectrl alt f7 goes back to GUI for this08:19
RyNSkitty1 = console1 = VC.08:20
RyNSkiYeah.08:20
Hobbseeah08:20
grobikann mir jemand sagen wieso sich die laufwerke auf dem desktop nicht ffnen lassen?08:20
RyNSkiMine don't work. Nothing on 1-6.08:20
Hobbsee!de08:20
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe08:20
Hobbseegrobi: enschuldigung, ich nicht spreke gut deutsch!08:21
HobbseeRyNSki: i wonder why...08:21
Hobbseeand i'm sure i spelt entschuldigung wrong, along with the rest of it08:21
RyNSkiPretty screwed up.08:21
RyNSkiI can run it by hand.08:21
Hobbseehehe08:21
RyNSkiBut I'm in runlevel 2 and init has the getty's defined for level 2.08:22
HobbseeDraconum: for the sound, ask on #ubuntu, they usually can tell you08:22
Hobbseeseeing as there are more people ther08:22
Hobbseeooh, it's quiet there!  only 281 people!08:22
Hobbseeused to seeing 600 +, after the past few days...08:23
naliothHobbsee: you were not in #ubuntu when freenode got pwnd?08:23
Draconumok08:24
Hobbseenalioth: perhaps not, i wasnt here yesterday08:25
Hobbseewhy, what happened?08:25
naliothsomebody got access to freenode and took over #debian, #ubuntu, and other large channels08:25
Hobbseeouch!08:26
naliothdumped everyone out of the channels08:26
Hobbseenope, wasnt there for that08:26
nalioththat's why there are so few people in #ubuntu08:26
Hobbseedouble ouch08:26
jagodragoncan any one help me with a scanner problem08:26
Hobbseeah...cos they're usually in there idle08:26
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brosiozhow could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?08:29
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strike4ceDo I have to keep that jre that I downloaded to desktop once it is installed?08:30
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strike4ceon desktop?08:31
Hobbseestrike4ce: nope, you can delete it :)08:31
Hobbseeit's just an install file, it does nothing else08:31
strike4ceHobbsee: what does this mean?08:33
strike4ceW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:33
strike4ceW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:33
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Hobbseeyou can ignore it, i think08:33
Hobbseethe keys have been stuffed parts of the times in other days08:33
Hobbseejust run sudo apt-get upgrade after it, and it'll be fine08:34
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strike4ceHobbsee:  could it be that I added a new source to sourcelist?08:35
Hobbseewhich did you add?08:35
strike4cedeb ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time-debpool sarge custom08:36
strike4cedeb-src ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time-debpool sarge custom08:36
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Hobbseeit's generally a bad idea to add the sarge reps08:37
strike4ceHobbsee: I put those in reposotories and then applied and ran adept.  No file08:37
Hobbseemuch safer to just download teh particular deb you want, and install it manually08:37
strike4ceok08:37
strike4cepackage?08:37
Hobbseeyeah, the particular deb/ particular package08:38
bjvYES!  i stopped apt-get from running 2 parallel downloads.08:38
bjvwinnar.08:38
helpmethere is no kubuntu unofficial gaq for breezy:(08:39
helpmethere is no kubuntu unofficial faq for breezy:(08:39
labkomfgjf08:40
Hobbseehelpme: you can use most of the ubuntu faq08:40
Hobbsee!kubuntufaq08:40
ubotuHobbsee: Are you on ritalin?08:40
helpme!kubuntufaq08:40
ubotuI haven't a clue, helpme08:40
Hobbsee!faq08:41
ubotuI guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/08:41
helpme:(08:41
Hobbseeuse that...08:41
RyNSkiBRB.08:41
helpmesingle page version of faq??08:42
helpme!avidemux info08:42
ubotuhelpme: Are you on ritalin?08:42
Hobbseeas in the ubuntuguide?08:42
helpme!info avidemux 08:43
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Hobbsee!avidemux08:43
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hobbsee08:43
strike4cedamn Im missing some files so it wouldnt install wireless assistant08:43
Hobbseewhich files are you missing?08:43
helpme!info blast208:44
ubotublast2: (Basic Local Alignment Search Tool), section universe/science, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.10.20050429-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 269 kB, Installed size: 868 kB08:44
Hobbseeand have you tried "sudo apt-get install nameoffilehere"?08:44
strike4cewlassistant depends on libidn11 (>= 0.5.18); however:08:45
strike4ce  Version of libidn11 on system is 0.5.13-1.0.08:45
helpme!info acidrip08:45
ubotuacidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 276 kB08:45
Hobbseeyou've done a sudo apt-get update and a sudo apt-get upgrade?08:46
strike4ceI upgraded lastnight the new version08:46
helpmeHobbsee: r u asking me?08:46
strike4ceHobbsee: is that file old?08:46
Hobbseeno, was asking strike4ce08:46
strike4ceno not asking just stating sorry08:47
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strike4cemaybe that version wont work with 5.1008:47
Hobbseeit should have auto updated to whatever the latest version is08:47
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novosirjExcellent.08:48
jagodragonhow can i make my system use my scanner?08:48
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RyNSkiI've upgraded to KDE 3.508:49
strike4cewhat is apt-get -f install?08:49
RyNSkiThe problem went away.08:49
RyNSkiWell, 3.4.9blahblah.08:50
HobbseeRyNSki: yay :D08:50
Hobbseethey often call them 3.4.999 etc while they're still a beta08:50
RyNSkiYeah.08:50
RyNSkiMakes sense.08:50
Hobbseestrike4ce: i think it's a force install, check in a console08:50
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Hobbseeie apt-get install -help08:50
strike4ceit said I may want to do that08:50
Hobbseeah08:51
Hobbseeyeah, you could08:51
Hobbseenot sure if it's a good idea though08:51
RyNSkiIf you're a newb, you probably don't want to do that.08:51
strike4cesays it will free up 389kb08:51
strike4celol08:51
RyNSkiOnly if you're certain of what you're doing.08:51
RyNSkiThe deps are there to protect you.08:51
HobbseeRyNSki: so true08:52
helpmewhich repos do i add for libdvdcss2, mp3 etc.??08:52
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strike4ceohh it wants to reove wireless assistant08:52
strike4ceremove08:52
labkomjkljkl08:52
strike4ce1 to remove it says08:52
Hobbsee!tell helpme about w32codecs08:52
Hobbseeread that page, and it'll tlel you about the rest08:53
strike4cewho me?08:53
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RyNSki!w32codecs08:53
ubotuw32codecs is, like, to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:53
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strike4ceRyNSki: ok all it did was remove wla assistant08:55
strike4cewhat the hell is a gpg error08:55
Hobbsee!gpg08:55
uboturumour has it, gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/874608:55
strike4ceWhen I do apt-get update I get that error?08:56
Hobbseepost the full error?08:56
strike4ceW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:56
Hobbseeyou should be able to ignore it, assumign it's from the ubuntu repositories, which it is08:57
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strike4ceHobbsee:  How do i know if I have the latest version?08:57
Toma-is anyone elses control center all messed up in breezy?08:58
Hobbseeadept should tell you...08:58
RyNSkiToma-: Meaning exactly what?08:58
HobbseeToma-: what do you define as messed up?08:58
Toma-opening a thing like "Colours" pops up in the window, but it too big for the window and it doesnt get resized...08:59
RyNSkiOh. No.08:59
Toma-ill take a screenshot. it totally sux08:59
HobbseeToma-: you can use alt08:59
Hobbseeand move the window around that way08:59
Toma-hang on it working....08:59
Toma-brb, buggin08:59
brosiozhow could i purge all conf file of a packege that i've alredy remove ?08:59
helpmethe wiki u gave seems to be for hoary...will it work on breezy?09:00
strike4ceI have KDE 3.4.309:00
Toma-weird! its working. must be the good vibes fom here :D09:00
Hobbseehelpme: which wiki was this?09:00
Hobbseeoh that09:00
Hobbseeyeah, should work09:00
strike4ceis that the newest Hobbsee  KDE 3.4.3?09:00
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Hobbseestrike4ce: yes, unless you wanted the beta09:01
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strike4cewhy does adept load upgrades when I fetch?  I thought the uprades were installed?09:02
kaandriddle me this: my sound worked in a knoppix livecd but not a MEPIS live cd. it worked in hoary and warty but not breezy. what is wrong?09:02
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Hobbseethey were, but there's probably more updates09:02
strike4ceHobbsee: Beta LOL IM barely hanging on here09:02
Hobbseestrike4ce: lol09:02
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Hobbseekaand: any idea what the solution was?  Riddell seems to be idle09:03
strike4ceSo even though they're installed it will keep fetching the same ones and committing them?09:03
Hobbseeshouldnt do, maybe they werent installed09:03
kaandi have no idea09:04
kaandthe knoppix i was using was the one that came with the knoppix hacks book09:04
kaandbut i've been spending the last several days trying to get sound working in breezy09:04
strike4ceRyNSki: can I ask a question?09:05
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RyNSkistrike4ce: Sure.09:06
strike4ceok i fetch in adept they all say 100% then the commit button and full upgrade button are highlighted. Is this right?09:07
RyNSkiSounds OK to me, but what are you upgrading?09:08
strike4ceRyNSki: nothing that I know of just did fetch09:08
RyNSkiOh... OK.09:08
RyNSkiYeah, that's fine.09:08
RyNSkiProbably some minor updates.09:08
strike4ceRyNSki:  why does it do it everytime?09:08
RyNSkiWhat does it do every time09:09
RyNSki?09:09
kaandhelp :(09:09
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RyNSkikaand: With what?09:09
strike4ceit fetches and then the commit lights up and the full upgrade button09:09
RyNSkiWell, do the commit.09:10
kaandvexing sound problem that i've been tackling for days09:10
RyNSkiOh.09:10
RyNSkiWhat's the matter?09:10
strike4ceI do and then the fetch button stays on and if I hit it again it does the same process over09:10
kaandno sound at all since breezy. but knoppix and hoary had sound09:11
kaandfrom what i can see on lspci and lsmod, it looks like my card is detected and everything09:11
kaandbut just not working09:11
RyNSkistrike4ce: Doesn't matter.09:11
kaandi recently tried recompiling alsa but that didn't fix it either09:12
RyNSkiWhere, in KDE?09:12
strike4ceRyNSki:  ok I do it from kynaptic and it states im up to date09:12
RyNSkiI'm guessing that's where sound is broken?09:12
RyNSkiWhat were you using before?09:13
kaandi was using kubuntu in hoary too09:13
kaandalthough i started out with gnome09:13
RyNSkiI meant strike4ce, but... sure... OK. :)09:13
kaandthis is a fresh install, though09:13
strike4ceI tried the new adept09:13
RyNSkiWhat does the sound config say in KDE?09:13
kaandack, too many sound problems :(09:14
RyNSkiLook under hardware someplace.09:14
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strike4ceRyNSki: what is residual config files?09:15
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strike4ce!residual09:15
ubotustrike4ce: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!09:15
strike4celol09:15
strike4ceRyNSki: Why does firefox in the address bar it looks really small?09:16
_andreaError - Konqueror: Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one / Can't Init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one / No usable video driver found! (xvimagesink)09:16
_andrea!alsasink09:18
ubotu_andrea: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:18
strike4ceRyNSki: Why does firefox in the address bar it looks really small?09:19
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RyNSkiSorry.09:23
RyNSkiI was AFK.09:23
RyNSkiI dunno... looks fine to me.09:24
RyNSkiAnd I dunno what residual configs it's talking about.09:24
RyNSkiI mean, it is small... but...09:24
strike4ceok what about the Firefox?  The address bar looks really small09:25
RyNSkiDidn't I just say "looks fine to me, I dunno, it's small, but..."09:26
RyNSkiPretty sure. :)09:26
strike4cefonts are all different then windows version09:28
shogoukiRyNSki: thats women say to me everytime09:28
strike4celol09:28
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RyNSkiLOL09:29
RyNSkiPoor guy.09:29
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shogoukistrike4ce: are you talking about url bar ?09:30
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RyNSkiAH, I remembered what I want Java for.09:32
RyNSkiirate.09:33
shogoukiyou may need it for ooo2 too09:33
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strike4ceshogouki:  YES!09:37
strike4ce0002?09:37
shogoukistrike4ce: maybe you can set its size by putting a line in userchrome.css09:38
shogoukiOoo209:38
kaandi wonder if i should just do a fresh install of hoary, then dist-upgrade to breezy09:38
kaandthis sound thing is pissing me off09:39
strike4ceshogouki:  How do i access chrome?09:39
_andreaError - Konqueror: Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one / Can't Init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one / No usable video driver found! (xvimagesink)09:39
_andreahelp?09:40
strike4cethe fonts therev is no times new roman or arial, or courier new09:40
strike4ceshogouki: how do i get to chrome?09:41
shogoukistrike4ce: dont remember, search userchrome on google, and put #urlbar{width:400px !important} in it, restart firefox and tell me if it works09:41
_andreai need my windows fonts too09:42
_andreamsttcorefonts09:42
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_andreabut i cant find it09:42
strike4ceshogouki:  nope didnt work09:44
shogoukistrike4ce: and with *{background:red  !important} ?09:45
strike4ceshogouki: lol09:45
shogoukitry09:45
strike4ceshogouki:  does nothing09:47
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shogoukiyou have a pb with your file, try to fix it09:47
strike4cepb?09:48
_andreai cant access my windows drives09:50
_andreahelp!09:50
aftertaf!windowsdrives09:50
ubotuI heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:50
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fatejudger1is dist-upgrade and installing the new breezy iso the same thing?09:52
fatejudger1or is dist-upgrade more cluttered09:52
fatejudger1I have the CD, so I can do either09:52
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_andreai installed breezy from scratch...but i think out-of-the-box stuff was smoother on Hoary09:54
_andreai'm having loads of troubles setting my system up :(09:54
_andreasHi, is there a bug with usplash and vga=791?09:55
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aftertaffatejudger1, same thing, unless newer pkgs on repository...10:01
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_andreasHi, is there a bug with usplash and vga=791?10:01
_labkomoh my god10:02
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_labkomplease help meeee10:03
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Toma-_labkom: whats the problem?10:08
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Toma-_labkom_: whats the problem?10:08
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xxenondo you think I could backup my .kde , install 5.10 and restore it ? (Im using KDE 3.4.2 now)10:10
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somezguys I have a terrible problem after upgrading to kubuntu 5.1010:11
somezmy X won't start anymore :-(10:11
somezand I don't know what to do now10:11
platoalii had the same problem 10:11
platoalimy x does not start10:12
somezI added the kubuntu cdrom via synaptic10:12
hornsbydo apt-get upgrade again10:12
somezand installed the packages10:12
_andreado u use nvidia?10:12
platoalii think you should do sudo apt-get install xserver-core 10:12
_andreasomez: do u use an nvidia card?10:12
hornsbysometimes it get stuck during upgrade10:12
somezhornsby, apt-get upgrade finds no repository :-10:12
platoalian couple of other packages10:12
platoalithat related to some x font 10:12
somez_andrea, ati, but I changed back my driver to ati in xorg conf10:12
somezno effect10:12
_andreatry vesa10:13
somezplatoali, I get some kind of error like that too10:13
somez_andrea, ok10:13
_andreaif vesa works10:13
hornsbysomez, what is your sources.list look like ?10:13
_andreathen install ati driver from repository10:13
somezhornsby, it contains the hoary repositoris10:13
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platoalisomez: i've fixed it with the install ing some xserver-core package10:14
somezhow did you install them?10:14
hornsbyand you can't  hit them right 10:14
somezyes10:14
somezmy internet connection is also not working10:14
somezdon't know why10:14
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platoalisomez: and sudo apt-get install xfont-base10:15
hornsbydid you try restarting the computer itself ? or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?10:15
somezyes i restarted the computer10:15
platoalisomez: sorry sudo apt-get install xfonts-base10:15
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somezit don't find the package10:16
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platoaliwhich one?10:17
platoalixfonts-base10:17
platoali?10:17
somezyes10:17
platoaliI've download them from the net10:18
platoalithis system is an upgrade10:18
somezi have it on the cd10:18
somezmy net is not working10:18
nxv_whats wrong with kaffeine? i can scan for dvbt tv stations but they remain grey an i cant use them 10:18
hornsbysomez, for x trouble try : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:19
somezI tried it, no effect10:19
hornsbywhat is the error message when you type xstart in the console ?10:20
platoalitry to install these packages: x-window-system-core10:20
platoaliand xfonts-base10:20
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somezhow can I add the install cd to the repos?10:20
hornsbysomez, just to be sure, when you upgraded, you changed the repositories and did dist-upgrade right ?10:21
somezI only added the install cd to the repos10:21
somezbut the wiki says after rebooting, I must add the install cd again10:21
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somezI installed those two packags10:23
hornsbysomez, do you have any error message to make the task easier ??10:23
somezbut X won't start10:23
somezyes, wait a sec10:23
somezcould not open default font "dixed"10:23
somezfixed10:23
somezit says my font path must be wrong10:23
somezor the fonts are not installed10:24
hornsbyseems like you should regenerate the fonts10:24
somezgreat, how can I do that?10:24
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hornsbysomez, i don't remember, i check  it :)10:24
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somezok, thanks :-10:25
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robinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyReleaseComments <= interesting, and true.10:25
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hornsbydid you try installing xfonts-base and xfonts-utils10:26
hornsby?10:26
somezonly base10:26
hornsbyok10:26
hornsbyand xserver-common too ?10:26
somezI installed the utils too10:26
somezI must do them manually with dpkg, because my install cd is not in the sources.lst10:26
robin_2What is the short-cut to get in the google search box in konqueror (like ctrl+k does in firefox) ?10:27
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Weshi10:28
somezthe problem is, that X doesn't find the default font10:28
somezhow can I solve this?10:28
hornsbysomez, change the font lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from:10:29
hornsby10:29
hornsby /usr/lib/X11/fonts/*10:29
hornsby10:29
hornsby to10:29
hornsby10:29
hornsby /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/*10:29
somezok10:29
Wesi just got my tv tuner card working and i cant figure out how to get the audio working10:29
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Westhe tv card outputs to my input on my sound card10:30
somezhornsby, my xorg.conf already has these lines10:30
Wesbut nothing i have tried so far makes it work10:30
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somez:-(10:30
somezmaybe I must install a specifyc font package_10:30
somezbut wich one?10:31
platoalidid you install xfonts-base10:31
somezyes10:31
hornsbysomez,  what does the section "Files" look like in your xorg.conf ?10:32
somezrgppath10:32
somezsome fonts path10:32
somezand that is all10:32
somezFontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"10:33
somezetc10:33
hornsbysomez, check that link, you might find something usefull there, by the end of the post : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35143.html10:33
somezok thanks10:34
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Wesdoes anyone know what i would have to do to get the audio input on an nforce2 chipset to work?10:35
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hornsbysomez, try that apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base10:38
hornsbysomez, and then /etc/init.d/kdm restart10:39
somezok, I solved the problem10:40
somezthe fonts were on a wrong place10:40
somezso I copied them according to xorg.conf10:41
somezthanks for the help guys10:42
hornsbysomez, instead of moving, create symbolic links, but glad you solved it10:42
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caveHello again... Just completed installation :)10:45
qubyplease help! I have an integrated nvidia nforc2 soundstorm soundcard, the sub and the center don't work! any idea?10:45
robin_2hmm synaptic give the following error:10:47
robin_2W: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>10:47
robin_2what does it mean ?10:47
_samIs it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop now if I have kubuntu-desktop installed?10:47
crimsun_sam: it's always safe. You just might find it unbearable later.10:47
hornsbyubuntu-destop is a meta package, safe to remove10:48
_samSo removing a meta package won't remove the packages that it "links" to?10:48
hornsbynop10:48
_samI see10:49
caveCan anyone help me, how do i mount my hard drives?10:49
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robin_2cave: what kind of partition windows ntfs ?10:51
cavei got one fat32  (on the same hard disk, different partition) and a NTFS on a sepparate hard disk10:51
robin_2cave you know which device file ? (/dev/hda etc.. ) 10:52
caveWin fat32 is HDA1, Kubuntu is HDA2, WIn NTFS is HDB10:53
robin_2you could add this to /etc/fstab (replace /dev/hda5 with the correct ntfs partition) /dev/hda5       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=000       0       010:53
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somez_re all10:54
somez_I have another problem, my ethernet card is not working anymore10:54
robin_2It will mount the ntfs partition automatically evertime you reboot, and every user got read permission on it.10:54
somez_and I cant bring up eth110:54
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somez_because it says no such device10:54
caveeek... no permission to read hda510:54
elvirolohi all10:54
somez_how can I solve this?10:54
robin_2you can't write (yet) to hda510:54
elvirolohow do i enable musicbrainz support in amarok ?10:55
robin_2Cave eh ntfs i mean.10:55
hornsbysomez_, ifconfig ??10:55
robin_2cave yes of course you got read permission, it is umask..10:55
somez_ifconfig eth1 won't work10:55
hornsbyis the device eth1 ??10:56
caveok i got the file open10:56
somez_yes10:56
hornsbysometimes it get mixed up during upgrade 10:56
cavewill i get kicked for flooding if i paste it to the channel? :P10:56
somez_my desktop has tow ethernet cards10:56
robin_2Cave yes see topic10:56
somez_and it worked on hoary10:56
caveok10:56
somez_now I can only bring up eth010:56
robin_2http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ <= paste here10:56
hornsbydid you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?10:57
somez_yes10:57
hornsbydoes it look ok ?10:57
somez_auto eth1 inet dhcp10:57
elviroloplease, ideas anyone ?10:57
somez_I have a broadband router here10:57
somez_wich runs a dhcp10:57
hornsbyok10:57
robin_2elvirolo: what'sup10:57
somez_so it should work, but the problem is that I can't bring eht1 up10:57
elviroloi'd like to hace musicbrainz support in amarok10:58
somez_it says i dont have such a device10:58
cavehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39424610:58
Wesis audio input passed to the output by default? (i.e. mic, line in, etc)10:58
hornsbyif you put down eth0, does eth1 comes up ?10:58
somez_but according to lspci, the system finds my two ethernet cards10:58
somez_i try that10:58
somez_no10:59
hornsbymaybe, eth1 is not enabled. Go to KDE ->settings -> network settings -> admin mode -> enable eth110:59
somez_ok10:59
robin_2cave yes ? well add the rule I pasted here :)11:00
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about repositories11:00
robin_2cave http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39425111:01
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neptune3kfor those interested : Yakuake has been updated11:01
caveoh, add a new line?11:02
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about hoary-extras11:02
cavei tought i was supposed to replace the other line11:02
robin_2neptune3k: I just installed it from apt.. great program !11:02
somez_hmm strange11:03
somez_I have eth211:03
somez_instead of eth111:03
somez_now I'm enabling it11:03
somez_it takes time11:03
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cavecant save the file11:03
cocozzhi11:04
cocozzur distro rocks ;-)11:04
caveshould have logged on as root right? ;/11:04
hornsbysomez_, any good ?11:04
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about java11:04
robin_2elvirolo: hmm strange, I can't see the musicbrainz support anymore.11:05
hornsbyKamping_Kaiser, tell me about google11:05
elviroloi think one has to recompile a library11:05
robin_2elvirolo: RC1 did have musicbrainz, they probably disabled it for some reason.11:06
somez_hornsby, yes11:06
somez_th enet is working11:06
elvirolorobin_2: hmm... never worked for me11:06
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somez_I think the system swtiched the name of the interfaces11:07
elviroloare we talking about mp3's ?11:07
somez_eth0 became eth2 and eth1 became eth011:07
somez_so the internt now comes via eth011:07
hornsbythat happens during upgrades11:07
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somez_and my eth1 disappeared11:07
somez_now it's named eth211:07
somez_now I must change my sources.lst to the breezy repos11:07
somez_thank you very very much for your help11:07
robin_2elvirolo: at least I thought I saw something of musicbrainz in RC1, but I never used it though.11:08
hornsbyyou can fixe this by editing a file with corresponding mac address and interface, i can't remember the name, i look for it11:08
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somez_how should I edit my repository list to represent the breezy sources?11:09
hornsbyyes11:09
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elvirolouh my scanner doesn't work EITHER11:10
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elviroloi'm so fed up11:10
hornsbysomez_, hoary becomes breezy11:10
elviroloi've spent HOURS filing bug reports and now musicbrainz doesn't work, my printer doesn't work, my scanner doesn't work (although they both did under hoary) and my webcam doesn't work out of the box11:11
somez_ok thanks11:11
robin_2elvirolo: true, there a lot of bugs, including some new ones reintroduced after RC1, so this release is a little bit fucked up.11:11
_samI'm already considering having to re-install the whole thing.11:12
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cavewtf i cant log on as root >_>11:12
robin_2elvirolo: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyReleaseComments <= I think there should be a sub release to fix all thos eproblems.11:13
robin_2!root11:13
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:13
robin_2!sudo11:13
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:13
xuniL_gett a error while i ./configure can you help?11:14
xuniL_checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:14
xuniL_See `config.log' for more detail11:14
xuniL_?11:15
somez_this is strange11:16
somez_I did a dist-upgrade again, with breezy sources11:16
somez_and it removed some packages11:16
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about backports11:16
somez_I don't know why11:16
hornsbysomez_, why a dist-upgarde if you already had breezy ?11:17
somez_because I wanted to be sure11:17
hornsbysudo apt-get update should have been enought11:17
somez_and you see, I still have some packages to install11:17
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robin_2anyone got the kio_ipodslave working ?11:20
cave" Applications --> System Tools --> Run as different user." where is that menu?11:21
cave6:20am....maybe ijust need to get some sleep and then it wont be so hard anymore :)11:22
elvirolodoes anyone use kooka ?11:22
robin_2elvirolo: yes11:22
elvirolorobin_2: could youn tell me where to find it in the menu ?11:22
robin_2within the graphics sub-menu11:23
elvirolouuuuh of course i don't have it11:24
elviroloalthough kooka is installed11:24
robin_2elvirolo: I thought it was installed by default.11:26
elvirolomaybe it is11:26
robin_2elvirolo: maybe relogin.11:26
elviroloanyway it's not in the menu11:26
elviroloi've already tried that11:26
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mustard5how do you check your keyboard layout in KDE?11:34
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robin_2!kswap.h11:39
uboturobin_2: I give up, what is it?11:39
robin_2ubotu: it is missing.11:39
uboturobin_2: I think you lost me on that one11:39
tencostill cant print with breezy. cupsd always tells me about false perms of /dev/lp011:40
tencobut how can i change them permanently, lp0 is created again on each boot11:41
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xuniL_can someone help me this this error... then i am compileing:11:43
xuniL_checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:43
xuniL_=11:44
hornsbysomez_, the assign persistents names to network interfaces, edit /etc/iftab file11:44
xuniL_?11:44
robin_2xuniL_: are you using the right compiler ?11:44
robin_2xuniL_: for the same architecture.11:44
robin_2xuniL_: as your CPU11:44
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xuniL_dunno11:45
xuniL_dont know11:45
robin_2xuniL_: the error discription is not specific enough to give you a solution. 11:45
xuniL_paste full ./configure?11:46
robin_2xuniL_: not here :)11:46
xuniL_bastebin.com11:46
robin_2xuniL_: k11:46
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xuniL_http://pastebin.com/39428311:47
gibarianSo...is the media:/ problem going to be solved in the near future?11:48
xuniL_any clue robin_211:48
robin_2xuniL_: I will take a look.11:49
xuniL_k11:49
hornsbygibarian, it work for me :S11:49
hornsbydid you do fresh install ??11:49
robin_2gibarian: I hope so, it is *** problem.11:49
robin_2when I connect my ipod, I even get 4 error windows in konqueror.. :/11:50
hornsbygibarian, some people like me don't have the problem. I did an upgrade from Hoary, not a fresh install11:50
robin_2xuniL_: hmm, do you have gcc installed ?11:50
xuniL_yes...11:50
robin_2hornsby: I did a fresh install, BUT the RC1 didn't have the problem.11:50
xuniL_gcc 4.011:50
xuniL_and g++11:51
hornsbyit should be fixed soon, bugzilla report !!11:51
robin_2xuniL_: hmm, try to create a simple C program, and compile it with gcc. 11:51
xuniL_like what?11:52
robin_2xuniL_: I can't help you further, sry.11:52
xuniL_k np11:52
robin_2xuniL_: like something you write for yourself ;) helloworld will be just fine.11:52
hornsbyxuniL_, did you try the direct command with gcc, without configure ?11:52
xuniL_no..11:53
hornsbymaybe you should11:53
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hornsbyxuniL_, any make file ??11:53
xuniL_yes11:53
xuniL_i will try with them..11:54
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hornsby yep 11:54
spiralhi11:54
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Weshi spiral 11:59
redlinehi .. anybody know who to get wine working ? 12:01
gibarianhornsby: Well, me too. And it's still borked.12:01
hornsbygibarian, weirdo12:02
gibarianhornsby: what? I'm a weirdo? ha, j/k12:02
redlinecan sombody het me with wine ? plz add my msn ---------> scampi_21@hotmail.com12:02
hornsbygibarian, noo, the proble12:02
gibarianhornsby: well, the funny thing is, the media stuff still worked when I upgraded to the RC, but once I had installed the proper breezy packets, it was borked12:03
gibarianand kaffeine is terribly broken...12:03
hornsbygibarian, what I did after upgrading was to remove the ./kde directory after saving my emails of course, since that, no problems12:03
hornsbybut I'm not sure if that is the good fix12:04
gibarianhornsby: why would you want to do that? Didn't that wipe out all you preferences, settings, etc.?12:04
hornsbysure it did12:04
gibarianwell, that's no solution for me then :)12:05
hornsbyi thought so :)12:05
hornsbythen let's hope it will be fixed soon12:05
hornsbyvote for the bug in bugzilla if you want it to be fixed asap12:06
gibarianwell, some guy yesterday said it's point 2 on the to be fixed list...so I'm positive it'll sooner or later work out12:07
gibarianby the way, anyone else get a FATAL ext2 module not found error when booting with the new kernel?12:07
gibarianalright, tought so...12:11
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qubyanybody can help me? i have integrated soundcard and the subwoofer dond'work12:20
atlehello, I have, and just installed on my laptop. A HP NX7010. So far So Good12:20
puckmanI downloaded the preview release last week12:21
puckmanbut found several issues so gave up on it12:21
puckmanhas that pesky no admin bug been fixed?12:21
atleI tried that one, but it was kind of buggy for me12:21
puckmanAh, and the final release is better?12:22
qubyi have read meny forums but i can't do the sound12:22
atleso far yes12:22
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puckmancool12:22
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GingilloHi, i need help with installing kubuntu12:22
atlehehe12:22
puckmanI have been using ubuntu for ages12:22
puckmanmostly because people said gnome is better12:23
puckmanbut I like kde a lot more12:23
atleI don't like gnome12:23
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atlebut that's just me12:23
puckmanWell downloading amarok sort of made my mind up12:23
puckmansound apps for ubuntu suck12:24
puckmanamarok ... well rocks.12:24
atlebut i'm a neewbi, so what do i know :-)12:24
puckmanHey same here12:24
GingilloThe problem is: When i try to install the NEW release of kubuntu, The installation goes, i push enter, and then appears the message "Unpacking linux...OK  Building kernel, i waited for hours, and it don't goes on, wath must i do?"12:24
atleis this on a empty drive, or are you trying to upgrade?12:25
_samI wish they released itunes for linux.12:25
puckmanwont happen for a long time12:26
_samYeah, I don't really think so either.12:26
GingilloIS an empity drive, i frist tryed to install kubuntu, but now i'm on mandrake12:26
_samWell, I could switch to osx.12:26
puckmanlol12:27
puckmani just switched from osx to linux12:27
puckmanbeen using mac's since 8512:27
puckmaneven worked at apple for a while12:27
_samOh, why did you switch then?12:27
_samWanna save money?12:28
puckmantired of osx12:28
GingilloSo, who can help me??12:28
puckmanI'm an it manager and i ave learned more about osx by using linux12:28
puckmanbecause on linux you are forced to dive under the hood so to say12:29
puckmanon the mac everything works out of the box so you dont learn anything new12:29
GingilloHey!! Is this an help channel or not? lol12:29
inc|freakywhat is the best virus-scanner for linux which also fixes found viruses?12:30
Wescan you rephrase the question Gingillo ?12:32
Wesare you saying the kernel doesnt even load?12:32
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puckmanThis is a help channel?12:34
puckmanI thought it was just a hang out12:34
jsubl2Gingillo: at the boot screen try hitting the F2 key and reading about the boot options.. might have to try booting with acpi=off or something12:35
GingilloThe problem is: When i try to install the NEW release of kubuntu, The installation goes, i push enter, and then appears the message "Unpacking linux...OK  Building kernel, i waited for hours, and it don't goes on, wath must i do?"12:36
Firetechhmm12:36
Gingillosorry i went to lunch12:36
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jsubl2Gingillo: at the boot screen try hitting the F2 key and reading about the boot options.. might have to try booting with acpi=off or something12:36
Gingillommh Ok.. why? :P12:36
puckmani'm with jsubl2 on that12:36
puckmanon my thinkpad i had to run the installer as save vga12:36
puckmanor something like that12:36
jsubl2Gingillo: could be a kernel issue or something and that would help narrow it down12:37
FiretechI've upgraded to breezy, but forgot to install the kubuntu-desktop package before I did it (I don't want anacron and powernowd), now I can't install kubuntu-desktop because ksystemlog depends on the wrong packages... What to do?12:37
Firetech*install12:37
Firetechksystemlog depends on kdelibs4 (should be kdelibs4c2) and libqt3c102-mt (should be libqt3-mt)12:40
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Firetechhmm, my problems were based on a third party repo (dinton)12:47
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atlewhere do i get codecs/packs to view divx/xvid?12:52
jsubl2i got mine at http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz212:53
atlethx12:54
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Somezre everyone!12:56
SomezI'm experiencing a very strange bug using kmail...12:56
Somezafter breezy upgrade12:57
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Tm_Tgo on12:57
elvirolohi all12:57
Somezwhen I try to download the mails from pop3 server, it says: couldn't start this process: pop312:57
Somezactually this is just the english translation of the error msg12:57
Somezthe account settings are ok in kmail12:57
elvirolodoes anyone use ktabedit here ?12:58
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asranielwhy does konqueror always crash if there is a video or so on a webpage where we dont have the codec?12:58
GingilloHi, i need help.. :\12:58
elvirolome too12:58
GingilloWhen i try to install I see this words "Unpacking linux...OK Building kernel" And than nothing.. i waited for hours12:59
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GingilloCan i get help?01:03
jairbubblesany pb with amarok, mine is not working anymore !01:04
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peixotohi all. Just upgraded to Breezy, but I cant find the launchpad integration. Package "launchpad-integration" is installed, but nothing appears in the menu. Is it gnome only ? :-(01:06
pointwoodI could imagine it was01:07
peixotojairbbbles, my amarokis still working perfectly (even after the upgrade). What are your symptoms ? When did it stop working (after some update in your system) ?01:09
gibarianjairbubbles: problem with gstreamer?01:09
_atlei think i'll try vlc01:10
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jairbubblesgibarian: i don't know it just can't launch01:11
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Somezguys what is this? -> "kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave :"01:12
gibarianjairbubbles: what does it say? tried running from konsole?01:12
Somezthat's the error from kmail01:12
Somezit says, it couldn't creat an io rubprocess01:12
jairbubblesamaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!01:12
Somezsubprocess01:12
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_atleand we have vlc working, this is great. :-)01:13
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_shayhy all 01:18
jairbubblesgibarian: i'm trying to reinstall to see what happens01:18
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pipounhey! I've upgraded to breezy and I don't find k3b anymore01:30
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pipounIs it normal?01:30
omarWhere can i get dc++ client for my kubuntu ?01:32
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xuniL_where are the source.list?01:40
xuniL_found?01:40
Firetechisn't there an update notifier for kubuntu?01:41
xuniL_found it01:42
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brosiozhow could i permit to my user alex to write in /var/www ?01:43
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Kamping_Kaiserbrosioz: add them to a relevent group, or change the perms on varwww01:46
brosiozhow01:46
brosiozadduser alex var-www01:46
brosioznot works01:47
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omarHow can i take a print screen ?01:59
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shampooHi everyone02:12
shampooWhen I log into my Kubuntu Breezy laptop, I have to enable the PCM sound in Volume Control. When I log out, it sets itself back to off.. Anyway to get it to save its settings ?02:13
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epSome packges I install do not get added to the K menu.  Anything I can do?  Something to install to get the Debian submenu working?  02:36
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xxenon_hello, I just installed 5.1002:50
xxenon_but I got problems setting up my nvidia card. I get an Input/Output error on /dev/nvidia002:50
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manelhola a tod@s02:57
manelalguien altruista que me pueda echar una mano?02:57
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CellarDoorhi folks02:59
manelhi everybody02:59
manelsorry02:59
manelI am Spanish and I don't see that this site is International03:00
manelI need help?03:00
manelI can not play MP3 on my AMAROK and my KAFFEINNE03:01
manelsomeone can help me?03:01
CellarDoorhmm03:01
mrmarceli have the same problem ^^03:01
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CellarDoordo I need to add new repos to update to breezy ?03:05
manelI play the play list that it in amarok perfectly03:05
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CellarDoorno problems with mp3's here03:06
shivHow do I adjust firefox fonts all are so small I am not able to fix the toolbar fonts plz help03:06
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maneli have breezy03:06
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CellarDoorI haven't upgraded yet03:07
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manelyes I am upgaded03:07
manelI instaled all the Stremer packages03:08
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CellarDooramarok and kaffeine now use gstreamer by default it seems03:14
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CellarDooruhm... do I need to add any new repositories to my sources list to upgrade to breezy ?03:16
epWhat category is it under or what is the name of KDE's calculator?  03:17
CellarDoorutilities03:17
CellarDoorKcalc03:18
Mezep: if you want a simple calculator, use xcalc03:18
NSKKMenu->Utilities->Calculator03:19
seaLne!alternatives java03:19
ubotuWish i knew, seaLne03:19
seaLne!alternatives03:19
ubotuseaLne: What?03:19
seaLne!update-alternatives03:20
ubotuseaLne: What?03:20
seaLneubotu: ok i'll google instead :P03:20
ubotuseaLne: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:20
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omarWhere can i get c++ compiler03:23
epI'll check out xcalc Mez, thanks03:23
omaror somthink cc03:23
NSKgcc03:23
omarJamm03:23
omarYEs03:23
omarhttp://skype.com/products/skype/linux/03:23
NSKhttp://gcc.gnu.org03:23
omarwo03:23
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omarNSK i am from iceland can you gife me download link on gcc please03:24
NSKwait03:25
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omarnp03:26
=== [Pixels] waves a hearty hello to all of #kubuntu
[Pixels] i just have a quick question, if anyone wouldnt mind trying to give me an answer :)03:27
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CellarDoorhello !03:27
[Pixels] at the moment I run debian sid (unstable) and I use the 2.4 kernel, due to hotplug giving problems w/ a 2.6 kernel03:27
manelCellar I can send for you my sources.list 03:27
[Pixels] is there anyway to run kubuntu with a 2.4 kernel :)03:27
CellarDoorok thanks manel03:28
maneldo you need03:28
manelCallar03:28
CellarDoor[Pixels] : hmm sounds like alot of fiddling around03:28
NSKomar: what computer do you have? i386, i686, or x86_64 ?03:28
omari38603:28
epWhat's the fix for konsole's use of non-fixed width fonts, my fonts look bad even after I customize em.03:28
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[Pixels] the instance of hotplugging that causes the kernel failure is pci03:28
kyaneoshi03:28
CellarDoormanel: I just want to see If I need to update my sources list to upgrade to breezy03:28
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manelyes03:29
manelif you have hoary03:29
[Pixels] do you know if the kernel kubuntu comes with default, has maximum pci modules enabled?03:29
manelyou need to change your sources,list03:29
CellarDoorah rite03:29
NSKhere I found a precompiled package for i686 GNU/Linux: ftp://ftp.thewrittenword.com/packages/by-name/gcc-3.4.3/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-3.4.3.rpm4.tar.Z03:29
[Pixels] use the source, its more fun :)03:30
seaLneomar: apt-get install g++03:30
NSKi686 runs on computers with PentiumII chip or newer03:30
CellarDoor[Pixels] : ah thats a bit beyond me atm03:30
seaLneNSK: there are packages strangely enough03:30
[Pixels] yes, but i686 is geared more towards p4 chips03:30
[Pixels] but will run on p2/p3/p4/celeron03:30
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[Pixels] when in question, always go for the i386 package :)03:31
[Pixels] atleast thats my motto.03:31
[Pixels] CellarDoor: thanks for the help though, not many people have had my problem.03:31
omarE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:32
omarE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:32
[Pixels] i've bugged it on the debian bug tracking system, and most other distro's that i've tried.03:32
epI've got AMD k7, so when I install mplayer, I should choose the 386 package instead of 686, correct?03:32
CellarDoormanel: could you please tell me what I need to change it to for a breezy upgrade ?03:32
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[Pixels] omar: you need to do sudo apt-get03:32
NSKomar: login as root, type su03:32
[Pixels] or su03:32
[Pixels] or sux03:32
seaLneomar: sorry sudo apt-get install g++03:32
[Pixels] i prefer sudo/sux03:32
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manelchange the word HOARY for the word BREEZY03:32
manelinto your sources.list03:33
manelafter03:33
manelopen KYNAPTIC03:33
omarwork thank you :D03:34
manelupgrade the packages03:34
maneland upgrade the system03:34
[Pixels] or if you run synaptic you can edit the repository right from there.03:34
[Pixels] you will want to do a apt-get dist-upgrade03:34
[Pixels] those are always fun.03:34
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manelYes PIXELS03:34
[Pixels] atleast they are on debian03:34
manelcellar want to upgrade for BREEZY03:35
kyaneoshi03:35
EcksEightySixanyone had any problem running Firefox 1.5b2 on Kubuntu Breezy (fresh install) ? it's looking for libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:35
kyaneosi have a problem with Kubuntu breezy03:35
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EcksEightySixwoops sorry... its looking for libstdc++.so.5 and I only found a libstdc++.so.6 in /usr/lib03:35
ChousukeEcksEightySix: install libstdc++503:35
[Pixels] hopefully, kubuntu will be awesome and not cause kernel faults :)03:35
kyaneosi can not view special caracters like the sharp, etc..03:35
ChousukeEcksEightySix: or something like tha.03:36
kyaneosi have set the keyboard layout to es03:36
EcksEightySixchousuke, that won't create any conflict with libstdc++6 ?03:36
[Pixels] EcksEightySix: you need an older package03:36
ChousukeEcksEightySix: no, it won't03:36
manelkyaneos eres espaol?03:36
[Pixels] you can do a dkpg -i --force-overwrite <package name if it does03:36
[Pixels] but it shouldnt.03:37
kyaneosmanel: si, del estado espanol03:37
kyaneosmanel: tu tb??03:37
EcksEightySixok, cool. thanks very much for the tip!03:37
manelsi03:37
Chousukekyaneos: manel: do not speak spanish here03:37
manelque te pasa03:37
kyaneossorry03:37
CellarDoorok thanks manel03:37
manelsorry CHOU03:37
[Pixels] trust me, i have to do that once or twice a day, running unstable03:37
[Pixels] :)03:37
CellarDoorI shall do that03:37
Chousukethere exists #ubuntu-es at least03:37
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manelkyaneos you are available on the IRC chanel KUNBUNTU-ES03:38
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[Pixels] 5.10 is breezy correct?03:38
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kyaneosthank you very much03:38
[CC] Punkrockhello03:38
[Pixels] hi :)03:38
[CC] Punkrocki've got a problem...03:38
EcksEightySix[pixels] : 5.10 is breezy, yup03:39
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[CC] Punkrock(as most ppl that come here probably)03:39
[Pixels] thanks.03:39
[Pixels] 1.5 hours until the .iso is done.03:39
omarWho can gife me a good link on FTP client not server ??03:39
[Pixels] then I get to test out my new burner in linux, should be a treat.03:39
[CC] PunkrockI've got the .iso on my pc03:39
Tm_Tomar: konqueror ?03:39
omarSomethink03:39
[CC] Punkrockand i've written it on a cd as .iso03:40
omarYes03:40
[CC] Punkrockbut it wont boot...03:40
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: did you burn as an image?03:40
NSKomar: Konqueror and command-like ftp03:40
[CC] Punkrocki first accidentally burned it as a .iso03:40
[Pixels] did you also check the md5 checksum ?03:40
Tm_TNSK: and gftp03:40
[CC] Punkrockbut i then extracted the .iso and burned it again03:40
[CC] Punkrockso i have the extracted files on a cd03:40
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omarWhere can i get konqueror03:40
NSKomar: also see http://kbear.sourceforge.net/03:40
[Pixels] and did you check the cd integrety?03:40
[CC] Punkrockfyi: i'm an absolute noob at linux...03:40
NSKanother is http://kasablanca.berlios.de/03:40
[CC] Punkrocki've just started IT at school, and we're using linux03:41
[Pixels] www.linuxiso.org03:41
[Pixels] there is a guide there on the front page03:41
[CC] Punkrockthnx03:41
NSKKonqueror is in KDE, try http://www.konqueror.org/ to learn more about this program.03:41
[Pixels] on how to burn .iso's on many different systems.03:41
[Pixels] also, make sure you burn at a low speed03:41
[Pixels] like 4x or 8x03:41
rodrigoit's normal that xorg is using at least 35% of my cpu time?03:41
manelkyaneos you can see the "guia-ubuntu.org"03:41
NSKcan I use DVD-RAM disks as hard drives on GNU/Linux without loading any special driver?03:41
[Pixels] rodrigo: depends on what you have running.03:41
rodrigonothing special03:41
rodrigojust amsn03:42
maneland the site ubuntu-es.org for the problems or langueges03:42
[Pixels] then no, its not normal.03:42
rodrigoand superkaramba03:42
NSKrodrigo: my xorg doesn't use that much03:42
[Pixels] open up a console and type ps x03:42
[Pixels] see if anything tied to xorg is running03:42
[Pixels] then open up the task manager03:42
[Pixels] and double check.03:42
rodrigoI realised if I use superkaramba, xorg uses more cpu time03:42
rodrigoa lot more03:42
[Pixels] yes, karamba is a resource hog03:43
rodrigonow is using maybe 4%03:43
rodrigowith superkaramba 35-40 %03:43
[Pixels] i have 5 themes loaded03:43
[Pixels] :)03:43
Tm_Trodrigo: well, superkaramba uses cpu, and meter shows that as xorg using03:43
[Pixels] im at about 75% :)03:43
rodrigobut i don't thing is a great thing for my old laptop :(03:43
[Pixels] superkaramba is tied to xorg's resource consumption03:43
Tm_Tyup03:44
[Pixels] thats why i suggested to check running processes :)03:44
Tm_TI never use superkarambe03:44
omarwhy can't i not do make and make install03:44
Tm_Ta03:44
Tm_Ttorsmo <403:44
Tm_T<303:44
[Pixels] omar: do you have the make packages installed?03:44
Tm_Tok, now I'm dizzy enough ->03:44
[CC] Punkrockpixels: "there were 1154 errors while making sums"03:44
omarDont kow03:44
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NSKomar: type: which make03:45
[Pixels] thats not good.03:45
omarhow can i install him03:45
[Pixels] lol03:45
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: thats from your iso ?03:45
omarI new in linux03:45
[Pixels] you may need to redownload/reburn it :(03:45
omarI am olways on fedora03:45
NSKomar: you use Kubuntu ?03:45
[CC] Punkrocki let md5summer run on the md5sum.txt file that's on my cd03:45
[Pixels] if you use fedora, you should goto their channel03:45
[CC] Punkrockand i cant really download it again, here in belgium we have download limits...03:45
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: you need to redownload the .iso03:45
[CC] Punkrock10gb each 30 days03:45
[Pixels] ahh :(03:46
omarNo i am using now kubuntu03:46
NSKomar: other channels you may like to join are #fedora and #linux and #linuxhelp and #redhat03:46
[CC] Punkrockbtw, when i want to open it it already says:03:46
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[CC] Punkrockthe checksum you have selected contains one or more ASCII generated sums03:46
omarMy old computer is on fedora i am now  on kubuntu03:46
NSKcan Kubuntu 5.10 read DVD-RAM discs?03:46
rodrigoand what about ram usage?03:47
[Pixels] NSK debian can03:47
[CC] Punkrockand it gives an error for EVERY SINGLE ONE03:47
[Pixels] so i assume kubuntu can.03:47
[CC] Punkrock1454 errors for 1454 sums03:47
NSKwithout a driver ?03:47
rodrigoI ve 448 MB ram and I'm using 410!03:47
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[Pixels] hmm, that maybe a problem.03:47
rodrigobut I'm using almost nothing03:47
[Pixels] you could possibly have to build that.03:47
omarHow can i install make packages ?03:47
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[Pixels] omar i think if you do apt-get build-essentials03:47
[Pixels] it will grab it as a dependency03:48
NSKrodrigo: sometimes gnu/linux reserves memspace for buffers etc03:48
[Pixels] or something along that like03:48
[Pixels] you could do apt-cache search make03:48
rodrigouf I thought kde was lighter than gnome03:48
[Pixels] that will list the packages that have make in the name/description/dependency03:48
[CC] Punkrockpixels, could it be something went wrong with the extraction?03:48
omarPixels, Dont work03:48
[CC] Punkrockand that the downloaded iso is correct?03:48
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: it just could've been downloaded badly.03:49
[Pixels] did you use a download manager?03:49
[CC] Punkrocknope03:49
[CC] Punkrockjust downloaded it with firefox03:49
[CC] Punkrockyesterday03:49
[Pixels] omar: do apt-cache search make03:49
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: i dunno, check the forums.03:49
NSKrodrigo: no but KDE offers many more features than gnome03:49
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: maybe someone can offer some assistance. there was a guide on there on how to boot from windows, to install kubuntu03:50
[Pixels] using grub-dos03:50
[Pixels] and some simple scripts.03:50
omarIt found MUTS03:50
[Pixels] you could possibly try that..03:50
[CC] Punkrockon linuxiso.org?03:50
[CC] Punkrockor kubuntu site?03:50
[Pixels] kubuntu forums.03:50
[CC] Punkrockk03:50
[CC] Punkrockthnx03:50
[Pixels] i read about it today while browsing.03:50
[Pixels] i check a distro out before I try it :)03:50
[Pixels] plus I'm familiar with debian, so its not a big step up.03:51
omarPixels, this search found muths03:51
[CC] Punkrocki'm kinda obligated to use kubuntu03:51
[CC] Punkrockcuz its the same distro we have in school03:51
[CC] Punkrockand i know shit about linux03:51
[Pixels] omar: let me check ral quick.03:51
[Pixels] ral = real03:51
omarhow03:51
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[Pixels] holy hell, thats alot of packages03:52
[Pixels] make - The GNU version of the "make" utility.03:52
[Pixels] try apt-get install make03:52
[Pixels] make should install the other dependencies as well.03:52
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[Pixels] wow, i offer alot of support to a distro i havent used yet :P03:53
[Pixels] im like a god in here03:53
[Pixels] j/k03:53
omaromar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ sudo apt-get install make03:54
omarReading package lists... Done03:54
omarBuilding dependency tree... Done03:54
omarmake is already the newest version.03:54
omar0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:54
omaromar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ make03:54
omarThis came03:54
[Pixels] okay, its already installed then03:54
omarand see03:54
[Pixels] what happens when you type make?03:54
[Pixels] did you do ./configure first ?03:54
[Pixels] before doing the make 03:54
omaryes03:54
omarmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.03:55
omaromar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$  03:55
[Pixels] hmm03:55
[Pixels] are you in the right directory ?03:55
omarYes03:55
[Pixels] what are you trying to compile ?03:55
_johananyone else having problems getting cedega to compile correctly using the WineCVS.sh-script?03:55
omargFTP03:55
[Pixels] _johan03:55
bdmp[CC] Punkrock, What kind of school do you go to?03:55
_johanyes03:55
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[Pixels] there is a problem with newer distro's03:55
hater2winhey all03:55
NSKomar: cd to the dir, type ./configure && make && make install03:56
[Pixels] anything over gcc 3.2 wont compile it03:56
[Pixels] there is a work around03:56
[Pixels] let me find it real quick03:56
_johanokay. thanks a lot03:56
[Pixels] i ran into the same problem03:56
[Pixels] gotta find the site again03:56
[CC] Punkrocki'm at my first year of profesional bachelor Information Technologies at the Xios School in Diepenbeek,Belgium03:56
omarI am compile kbear-3.0alpha1b-1.src.tar.bz203:56
bdmpWow, thats cool03:56
bdmpJust curios03:56
[CC] Punkrocklol03:56
_johanPixels: if you tell me what you searched for, I can do that myself. I'm sure you've got funnier things to do03:56
bdmpI wish I had studied computers in school03:57
[CC] Punkrockits only 25mins (bus) from my place, and i really wanted to go into the IT world03:57
[CC] Punkrockbut i cant seem to find what you sent me looking for pixels03:57
[Pixels] im waiting for a .iso to download03:57
[Pixels] i got time :)03:57
hater2winanybody know if vsftpd is better than proftpd? im having some trouble getting proftpd working but people say vsftpd is better anyway. any suggestions?03:57
omarNSK dont work beter03:57
bdmpI did japanese, so I learned alot about comps trying to use them as study tools03:57
NSKhater2win: I use vsftpd and I am very happy with it03:57
_johanPixels: what iso?03:58
hater2winNSK: easy to set up?03:58
hater2wini mean not that it matters, lol. i would do what i needed to to set it up but, lol03:58
omar:S03:58
[Pixels] http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9440103:58
[Pixels] its in french03:58
NSKhater2win: very very easy03:58
[Pixels] but the part you need is in english03:58
[Pixels] :)03:58
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[Pixels] enjoy _johan03:59
[Pixels] kubuntu 5.1003:59
[Pixels] gonna try it.03:59
_johanthanks03:59
[CC] Punkrockbtw pixels: can i install from windows to an empty unformatted disk?03:59
hater2winNSK: thanks for the enlightenment03:59
[CC] Punkrockui just got myself a new sata 160 gb hdd today03:59
[CC] Punkrockon which i wanna install kubuntu03:59
[CC] Punkrockthen back all data up on it03:59
NSKhater2win: the idea is you start it through xinetd, you set the runlevels, and you edit /etc/vsftpd.conf03:59
[CC] Punkrockand format my old hdd03:59
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: yeah, if you follow the directions.04:00
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[Pixels] but if the .iso is corrupt, its not going to work04:00
[Pixels] :(04:00
[CC] Punkrockyeah, probably04:00
[CC] Punkrocki hate belgian providers with their stupid limits04:00
_johanoh..pixels: that's french. Will babelfish translate this good enough, or do I just need to look out for package names?04:00
NSKwhat limits?04:00
bdmp[CC] Punkrock, You want to burn an .iso on windows?04:00
omarhelp :(04:00
[Pixels] just scoll down johan04:00
[Pixels] the part you need is in code brackets04:00
[Pixels] and in english04:00
[Pixels] the remove gcc 4 part04:00
[Pixels] and installing the older gccc04:00
[Pixels] then creating the link04:01
kihajiis anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.04:01
_johanokay, I think I found it04:01
[Pixels] i had problems with my system saying there was no root user once04:01
[Pixels] that was fun.04:01
[Pixels] thats like an automatic reinstall04:02
[Pixels] coudlnt su/sux/sudo04:02
[CC] Punkrockif I download the DVD for kubuntu, that's 33% of my monthly limit...04:02
kihajiI can sudo on the commandline04:02
[Pixels] [CC] Punkrock: just get the regular cd.04:02
kihajibut adept wont let me.04:02
[Pixels] the install cd04:02
[Pixels] whats adept?04:02
NSKyou have monthly limits?04:02
[Pixels] im not familiar with it.04:02
[CC] Punkrockthats the one i have :04:02
[CC] Punkrockyeah nsk04:02
NSKin Greece most connections are unlimited04:02
[CC] Punkrockin belgium all providers still have 10gb limits04:02
bdmpsame in Japan04:03
kihajipackage manager, think its the new synaptic for kubuntu04:03
[CC] Punkrockyou can increase them to 50gb/month for 1 per gb04:03
[Pixels] i share my cable modem with everyone in my apartment complex04:03
bdmpamerica is hit or miss04:03
[Pixels] my bandwidth = crap04:03
[CC] Punkrockso it'll cost double if i want 50gb04:03
bdmpIn Japan they are gettin fiber everywhere and it is cheaper than dsl04:03
NSKI pay 50-60 Euro per month for 384/128kbit ADSL with unlimited transfer04:03
[Pixels] im dl'ing the iso at 89.3 KB/sec04:03
[CC] Punkrockcan i verify the iso itself without extracting it first?04:03
[Pixels] here in a month i can get fiberoptics :)04:04
_johanMy dad gets 24mb/s broadband for $40 a month, 300gb limit04:04
bdmpwhere are you?04:04
[Pixels] _johan: thats impossible.04:04
omarPixels why can i not do make and make install :S04:04
[Pixels] thats multifiberoptic.04:04
NSKbdmp: me?04:04
[Pixels] lol04:04
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_johanPixels: that's is possible. why shouldn't it?04:04
[Pixels] omar: do ls -a04:04
bdmpSure but I meant [Pixels]  04:04
[Pixels] see what is in the directory.04:04
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[CC] Punkrockseems there is a 0byte file in the iso called ubuntu04:05
[Pixels] im in Illinois, USA04:05
[CC] Punkrockthats not good...04:05
bdmpNSK you are in greece you said right04:05
bdmpoh04:05
omarand04:05
[Pixels] afk a few, my brain needs nutrition04:05
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omar?04:06
NSKrecently ISPs here started offering cheaper ADSL with 1GB or 3GB/month limit, but it sucks04:06
[CC] Punkrockhmz04:06
[CC] Punkrockseems the md5 on my pc IS correct04:06
[CC] Punkrockbut the one on my cd isnt04:07
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[Pixels] bad burn04:07
[Pixels] reburn at a slower speed04:07
[CC] Punkrockcrap04:07
[CC] Punkrockthere are 2 errors in it on my pc aswell04:07
NSKjust create another dvd04:07
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[CC] Punkrockis it still usable with 2 error sums?04:07
[Pixels] probably not04:08
[Pixels] but you can try..04:08
[Pixels] lol04:08
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[CC] Punkrockits the netboot ones04:08
[CC] Punkrocki'm guessing i need those04:08
[Pixels] wish i could be mor helpfull [CC] Punkrock 04:09
[Pixels] yeah, those are needed04:09
[CC] Punkrocki which my pc hadn't gone fubar after updating the ATI drivers04:09
[CC] Punkrockthen i'd have all the time in the world for linux04:09
[CC] Punkrockbut now i need to format my pc asap04:09
[Pixels] what happened with ati drivers?04:09
[Pixels] they are easy to install.04:09
omarPixels i am finsish to do ls -a ehat then ?04:09
[CC] Punkrockevery single driverupdate after 5.2 caused me nothing but trouble04:09
[CC] Punkrock(they're at 5.10 now)04:09
[Pixels] xorg or xfree ?04:10
raingrove[CC] Punkrock, 04:10
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raingroveu dont have to format04:10
raingroveif u have trouble getting into X widnows04:10
[CC] Punkrocki have tried removing drivers and going back to older ones ...04:10
[CC] PunkrockX windows?04:10
[CC] Punkrockeh?04:10
raingrovejust press Alt+ctrl+F104:10
[Pixels] you can do apt-get --purge fglrx04:10
[CC] Punkrocki'm talking about MQ windows atm :)04:10
[CC] PunkrockM$04:10
raingroveoh04:10
[Pixels] ewww04:10
[CC] Punkrocki dont have linux yet :p04:10
omarwho04:10
[Pixels] ms windows..04:10
[CC] Punkrocki NEEd ms windows04:10
[Pixels] omar type in ls -a in the directory04:11
raingroveeveryone needs it04:11
[CC] Punkrockcuz some games dont work in linux04:11
raingrovefor games at least04:11
[Pixels] see what files come up04:11
raingrovehaha04:11
[CC] Punkrockyup04:11
[CC] Punkrocki'm a gaming freak04:11
[Pixels] there should be a make file04:11
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[CC] Punkrockand i need it for my mom and lil sis04:11
omarPixels i am finsish to do ls -a ehat then ?04:11
[Pixels] if ./configure worked correctly04:11
[Pixels] no04:11
[CC] Punkrockcuz they haven't even got a clue what linux is04:11
omarAMm ther is a make file04:11
[CC] Punkrockdownload started04:11
[CC] Punkrockwill be ready in about 60-70 minutes04:11
[Pixels] is it just labeled make ?04:11
[Pixels] or make.sh04:11
_johanPixels: if I remove gcc 4.0, then build essential, g++ and libstdc++ will get removed. should I still do it?04:12
[Pixels] yeah, cause you can readd them afterwards04:12
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[Pixels] its just a temporary removal :)04:12
omarno one file name Makefile.in and Makefile.cvs and Makefile.am04:12
_johanPixels: ok04:13
[Pixels] try ./make04:13
[Pixels] omar04:13
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[Pixels] _johan: let me warn you, the cvscedega is buggy04:13
[Pixels] your better off finding someone with a real copy04:13
[CC] Punkrockbtw: how stable is 5.10?04:13
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omarbash: ./make: No such file or directory04:14
omarI can do ./INSTALL04:14
[Pixels] try that then omar04:14
omark04:14
[Pixels] omar are you new to linux ?04:14
_johanPixels: I'll try...ehm..finding the real version then04:14
omaromar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ ./INSTALL04:14
omar./INSTALL: line 1: Basic: command not found04:14
omar./INSTALL: line 2: ==================: command not found04:14
omar./INSTALL: line 4: These: command not found04:14
omar./INSTALL: command substitution: line 9: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''04:14
[Pixels] omar what package are you trying to compile ?04:14
omar./INSTALL: command substitution: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file04:15
omar./INSTALL: line 9: The: command not found04:15
omar./INSTALL: command substitution: line 10: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''04:15
[Pixels] stop pasting please04:15
[Pixels] we get the idea :)04:15
omar./INSTALL: command substitution: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file04:15
omar./INSTALL: line 10: definitions.: command not found04:15
omar./INSTALL: line 113: syntax error near unexpected token `('04:15
omar./INSTALL: line 113: `is something like `gnu-as' or `x' (for the X Window System).  The'04:15
omar:S04:15
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[Pixels] a simple, it didnt work would have sufficed :)04:15
apokryphosomar: it's common courtesey to not flood the channel; please don't do it :)04:15
[Pixels] you can join #flood04:15
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[Pixels] to paste long error messages :)04:16
omarSorry04:16
apokryphos!pastebin04:16
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:16
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[Pixels] or use a service like pate bin04:16
[Pixels] lol04:16
omarI copy one line and all cames04:16
[Pixels] you beat me to it apokryphos04:16
[Pixels] omar: what package are you trying to compile ?04:16
omarI am compile kbear-3.0alpha1b04:17
[Pixels] okay let me see if i can find a .deb of that04:17
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[Pixels] much easier to install that way.04:17
omarhttp://kbear.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download&PHPSESSID=ee2d254dd8914a424ee66396a8e670f504:17
apokryphosomar: what's wrong with Konqueror?04:17
[Pixels] apt-cache search kbear04:18
omarI cant use him on my FTP, i cant use brwser on my server04:18
[Pixels] oops04:18
[Pixels] wrong console04:18
[Pixels] sorry04:18
apokryphosomar: Konqueror has an FTP kioslave -- you can use that for filemanagement via ftp04:18
apokryphostry it04:18
[Pixels] kbear - graphical ftp client for KDE04:18
omarhow04:18
apokryphosomar: ftp://username@somedomain.com04:18
[Pixels] omar type in apt-get kbear04:18
navituxhola a todos04:19
[Pixels] err sorry04:19
raingrovehey guys04:19
[Pixels] apt-get install kbear04:19
raingroverecommend me a native theme for kde please04:19
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[CC] Punkrock.iso 10% downloaded04:19
[Pixels] im sure that kubuntu has it on a repository04:19
Tm_Traingrove: tiblit & knifty04:19
[Pixels] especially if debian does (which is what i am using at the moment_04:19
navituxquit04:19
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apokryphos[Pixels] : kbear is rubbish :P04:19
[Pixels] i agree04:19
raingroveTm_T, thanks i will try them out04:20
[Pixels] but if the man wants to use it, i say let him04:20
[Pixels] he will learn :P04:20
_johangot to go, bye everyone04:20
[Pixels] bye johan04:20
_johanand thanks pixels for your help04:20
[Pixels] good luck :)04:20
EcksEightySixwow... I uninstall gcj/gnu java whatever, because I needed Sun's JDK stuff and that bitch goes ahead and also remove OOo2. wtg!04:20
[Pixels] wow ive helped more people in here today, then i ever did in #debian04:20
[Pixels] EcksEightySix: OO2 relies on java04:21
omarapokryphos: Work with Konqueror04:21
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[Pixels] its a dependency04:21
hater2winNSK:  what does 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket mean?04:21
EcksEightySixyea I know04:21
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EcksEightySixbut I don't want that gnu implentation04:22
[Pixels] hater2win: the socket couldnt be bound to listen04:22
hater2winwhat do i need to do?04:22
EcksEightySixcan't Ooo2 simply use sun's jdk504:22
[Pixels] EcksEightySix: when you install the sun java package04:22
[Pixels] you can safely install OO2 again04:22
EcksEightySixOh04:22
[Pixels] :)04:22
EcksEightySixsweet04:22
hater2win[Pixels] : What do i need to do?04:22
EcksEightySix:)04:22
[Pixels] hater2win: are you behind a firewall ?04:22
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[Pixels] or using something like guarddog ?04:23
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[Pixels] if so you need to open the port its trying to bind too04:23
hater2winyes, but ive forwarded the correct ports04:23
[Pixels] you've checked in iptables ?04:23
raingrovedoes anyone play freeciv04:23
[Pixels] raingrove: not anymore, but I used too.04:23
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hater2win[Pixels] : IPTables?????04:23
raingroveheh why not anymore?04:24
raingrovecan u recommend some nice games for linux04:24
[Pixels] raingrove: grew out of it.04:24
[Pixels] raingrove: what types ?04:24
raingroveanything.04:24
[Pixels] one sec04:25
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robin_2raingrove: ET04:25
[Pixels] http://www.linuxgames.com/04:25
robin_2raingrove: wolfenstein enemy territory.04:25
NightWalkerHmm where can i get valknut or somthink dc++ client on kubuntu04:25
[Pixels] http://www.happypenguin.org/04:25
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navituxhi!04:26
raingrovecool04:26
NightWalkerHello04:26
hater2win[Pixels] : iptables??04:26
raingroveis enemy territory in ubuntu repository?04:26
robin_2raingrove: no, you have to download it.04:27
[Pixels] www.freshmeat.net04:27
raingroveok04:27
[Pixels] hater2win: programs like guarddog are GUI's for iptables04:27
[Pixels] iptables is what allows traffic in/out04:27
robin_2raingrove: you can download it here http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=files04:27
robin_2raingrove: it requires opengl.04:28
libbenurbanterror 4 teh win04:28
libbenquake3 though04:28
hater2winso what do i need to be making sure of on these iptables?04:28
[Pixels] world of warcraft for teh winZ0r04:28
[Pixels] hater2win: www.google.com :)04:28
raingroverobin_2, have u tried wine?04:29
hater2winty04:29
[Pixels] np04:29
[Pixels] wine = the devil04:29
robin_2raingrove: you don't need wine for it, there is a native linux version.04:29
[Pixels] WineX for applications, Cedega for games04:29
[Pixels] Windows for target practice!04:29
raingroverobin_2,  i know that. just asking04:29
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robin_2raingrove: k04:30
[Pixels] im so tired, i should've went to bed04:30
[Pixels] instead of reinstalling debian04:30
raingrovedoes Adobe Photoshop CS2 and iTunes work fine with wine?04:30
Eliteforce^^04:30
[Pixels] takes so long installing to unstable04:30
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[Pixels] cause i do net installs.04:30
[Pixels] takes about 2 hours total :(04:30
Eliteforceinet speed?04:31
[Pixels] i average about 110 KB/sec when downloading from debian rep's04:31
libbenok, installed adept ... but why does it not appear in the menu?04:31
robin_2raingrove: I couldn't get CS2 get to work, photoshop 7 might work., Itunes don't think so.04:31
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[Pixels] brb04:32
robin_2raingrove: but there amarok supports ipods, as the ipod kio slave (although the ubuntu version I can't get to work :/)04:32
NightWalkerPixels now i am trying to install Valknut and i can't same error04:32
Eliteforce[Pixels] : either this is you internet connections max speed or you should switch to another mirror04:32
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[Pixels] Eliteforce: max for me pretty much04:32
[Pixels] lol04:32
[Pixels] shared cable with 60+ people04:33
[Pixels] =/04:33
Eliteforce[Pixels] : :)04:33
_johanI have now installed cedega. I get the error21. the solution should be turning off prelinking, in /etc/sysconfig/prelinking, but the folder sysconfig doesn't exist :/04:33
[Pixels] error 21 is a common occurance, even though I havent had it happen04:34
apokryphosman, Kompile is seriously cool04:34
[Pixels] thats the only solution that I know of.04:34
apokryphosnice UI04:34
_johanPixels: but do you have the folder sysconfig in /etc?04:34
[Pixels] yes :) yes it is.04:34
[Pixels] _johan: i dont have it installed right now04:34
[Pixels] im on a fresh install.04:34
[Pixels] you could www.google.com it04:35
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strike4ceWhy does firefox look so small in kubuntu?04:36
satafterhanyone know what to use to play an mkv file?04:36
_johanmplayer should do04:36
robin_2strike4ce: small ? what do you mean04:36
satafterh#_johan tried it, not worki04:37
strike4cethe url bar is really small04:37
robin_2strike4ce: not here.04:37
strike4cechanging fonts does'nt work04:37
strike4cerobin_2: not here?04:38
robin_2strike4ce: it is using the same fonts, as my kde apps. You can change that in kcontrol.04:38
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robin_2strike4ce: I have kubuntu, and firefox is looking normal.04:38
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strike4ceHave you seen firefox on windows?04:39
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strike4ceit doesnt look normal on linux04:39
robin_2strike4ce: :) yes, i'm using it on daily basis, it is the same size.04:39
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strike4cerobin_2: there is a bunch of people complaining about it04:40
libbenGuidance Configuration Tools: i dont have this 04:40
libbenwhat have i missed to install04:40
libbenhow do i know if my system is updated.04:40
robin_2strike4ce: lucky me. Have you selected " Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications"  ? in the Appearance->GTK styels and fonts section ?04:42
libbendo i miss something in my sources.list http://libben.pastebin.com/39442404:42
strike4ceyes04:42
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robin_2strike4ce: hmm, I'm using bitstream vera sans 10, and for fixed width: dejavi sans mono 10.04:43
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mister_robotostrike4ce: there was some package related to gtk that I had to download to get gtk apps to use kde fonts properly but I can't remember what it was04:47
mister_robotostrike4ce: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt04:48
jakedahnhi everyone, can someone tell me how i can reset the resolution of my moniter in kubuntu? It only lets me go up to 1024x768 and i need 1280x102404:48
mister_robotostrike4ce: did you get that?04:48
strike4ceyes in adept?04:48
mister_robotostrike4ce: did you get the package gtk2-engines-gtk-qt? that's how I fixed my firefox fonts (and all gtk apps under qt)04:49
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strike4ceits installed mister_roboto 04:50
KalockHello all04:50
robin_2jakedahn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:50
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jakedahnokie thx04:51
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KalockI was looking at the Ubuntu distro... I assume just Ubunto downlowd is without KDE.. KUbunto is with and EDUbutno is for kids04:51
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navituxhi04:51
navituxi'm having some problems with the locales and openoffice04:52
KalockWould that be a fair assumption?04:52
apokryphosKalock: edubuntu isn't necessarily just for kids, at all04:52
apokryphoscheck their site04:52
strike4cemister_roboto:  I enabled qt04:52
mister_robotostrike4ce: I remember there was a bug in the system settings/fonts dialog, the first time you applied "Use my KDE style in GTK apps" it didn't really get set. You had to do it a second time. Don't know if you hit that, or if it was fixed, or what. It's been a long time since I set that up04:52
robin_2Kalock: ubuntu is with gnome (but you can always install kde afterwards), kubuntu is without gnome, but with kde, and edubuntu don't know04:53
apokryphosedu = education04:53
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robin_2Kalock: for school I think.04:53
robin_2*schools.04:53
Kalocknod04:53
apokryphosprimarily, yes04:53
tencoso breezy installed katapult, but how can i start this?04:54
robin_2tenco: alt+space04:54
Kalocktnk04:54
apokryphos!katapult04:54
ubotuI heard katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.04:54
tencoah, thanks! :)04:55
mister_roboto!grub04:55
ubotumethinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting04:55
mister_roboto!tell me about grub04:56
mister_robotothis bot access to the docs was the best thing ever added to these channels  :)04:56
KalockAnd so begins the download04:57
arafatdoes anybody know the package name for the latex style files (e.g.: hyperref.sty, epic.sty)?04:59
robin_2arafat use dpkg -S or apt-file search04:59
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robin_2!apt-file04:59
ubotuNo idea, robin_204:59
robin_2hmm04:59
robin_2:)04:59
robin_2anyway you can download it.04:59
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arafatdo you know where?05:00
robin_2arafat yes, but if you install apt-file and do a search by yourself You will find out.05:00
mister_robotoit's apt-cache search05:00
robin_2mister_roboto: no it isn't05:00
robin_2mister_roboto: that is for packages05:00
apokryphosarafat: that would be a tetex-extra I presume05:01
luserHi guys, I just installed Kubuntu, and I can't seem to be able to connect to my fileserver. Is there any way I can see whether SMB is working. or what could be wrong?05:01
robin_2not files.05:01
mister_robotoahhh, sorry ok05:01
apokryphosarafat: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file can show you where a file comes from05:01
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robin_2apt-file search hyperref.sty05:01
robin_2tetex-extra: usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty05:01
arafatahh! thank you all! that is the package!05:01
luserIt manages to find my Windows computers (and their shares), but unfortunately it can't find the samba server on my Debian machine05:02
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xuniL_then i put a "New Item" in "KDE Menu Editor" and save it it dont show up in the meny and if i enter the "KDE Menu Editor" again its gone...05:14
xuniL_any clue?05:14
jakedahnHow do i add websites to download from with the apt-get system???05:14
mister_robotojakedahn: the /etc/apt/sources.list file05:14
xuniL_any one?05:15
jakedahnmister_roboto: so do i just put in a website under the rest of them?05:15
mister_robotojakedahn: yse05:15
jakedahnokie, ill give it a shot05:15
xuniL_what do i need to type in console to gett total root control... so i can change every thing without console05:17
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mister_roboto!tell me about msttcorefonts05:19
arafati just deleted my mp3-directory (rm -rf ) ...:-( is there a way to undo this operation? i'm using ext305:21
DarthFrogarafat: Restore from backup.05:21
arafathmm. i have no backup of this directory...05:21
DarthFrogarafat: Then you're hosed.05:22
mister_roboto!tell me about fonts05:22
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jakedahnhow do i check all of the packages that are available by the sources i have in my apt-get sources file??05:24
DarthFrogjakedahn: Synaptic will tell you what's available.05:25
jakedahnwhere can i get that, or is it already on the machine by default?05:25
DarthFrogjakedahn: It should be installed.   It's under the System Menu as Synaptic Package Manager.05:26
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DarthFrogSynaptic rocks!05:26
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DarthFrogSo does the new Adept package manger for KDE. :-)05:27
jakedahnok, wait where is it now?05:27
DarthFrogIT's shy.  It05:27
mister_robotojakedahn: it's a gnome program      apt-get install synaptic05:27
DarthFrog's probably hiding. :-)05:27
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mister_robotojakedahn: it's not there by default with kubuntu/kde05:27
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jakedahnoh, well im on kubuntu i get something like adept for a package manager05:27
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DarthFrogjakedahn: Use Adept then.05:27
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mister_robotojakedahn: it runs fine on kubuntu if you want to use synaptic :)05:28
jakedahnlol05:28
jakedahnyou really like it dont you05:28
mister_robotohaha05:28
mister_robotodon't really care but i installed it and it's good05:28
jakedahncan someone give me what the have in their /etc/apt/sources.list05:28
mister_robotojakedahn: i just use the cmd line most of the time05:29
jakedahnwhen i use apt-get it doesnt find any packages05:29
jakedahnah05:29
NightWalkerWhy can i not do make05:29
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DarthFrogNightWalker: "apt-get install build-essential"05:29
soulslayer8703Hello05:29
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soulslayer8703Somebody Knows how to configure wifi in kubuntu????05:29
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jrjxJakeD: I have a apt/sources.list, but it's for the 2005.04 distribution, hoary.  Is that what you want, or the new one?05:30
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NightWalkeri am root and i am finish to do ./congigure and then i fo make then this came make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop05:30
jakedahnim on 5.10 the new one, and when i use apt-get the default list doesnt find any packages05:30
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mister_robotojakedahn: http://pastebin.com/39447105:31
jakedahnhow do i add the regular debian link?05:31
_martinQ: how to connect to another kubuntu machine? (filesharing)05:31
jrjxHuh.  Okay.05:31
DarthFrogNightWalker: Then make is installed.  You just don't have the necessary Makefile, is all.05:31
NightWalkerhow05:31
xuniL_can you log on as root?05:32
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mister_roboto!root05:32
uboturumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:32
mister_roboto!nfs05:32
ubotuwell, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:32
xuniL_but how do i change root stuff then?05:33
xuniL_with sudo?05:33
JabberWokkyYes.05:33
DarthFrogxuniL_: Yes05:33
mister_roboto_martin: if it's 2 unix machines, you can use nfs. if you just want to copy files, you can use ftp or scp.05:33
_martinubotu: well yes i think I have set up the sharing part right, but how to access it?05:33
ubotu_martin: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:33
jrjxRoboto: Should you update that first line in sources.list to reflect the correct CD?05:33
DarthFrogOr rsync, for copy.05:34
DarthFrogrsync is truly excellent.05:34
mister_robotoDarthFrog: that's good for mirroring stuff but it's not really the thing for merely doing file sharing05:34
DarthFrogmister_roboto: If you set up a rsync server, it is. 05:35
JabberWokkyI probably have the search terms wrong... anybody know a way to set the resolution of virtual consoles such that they survive updates (i.e., without vidmode or a compile option).  I like the ubuntu kernels other than the default resolution, and since fixing the resolution requires a reboot, it's kind of a pain.  Alternate methods, anybody?05:35
NightWalkerWhat comad i log my in like root are the command: su or what?05:35
DarthFrogbut for mounting network shares, NFS is just the ticket.05:35
mister_robotoDarthFrog:  nfs is superior for that purpose if you don't mind the network chattiness. You don't need to make a local copy like you do with rsync. and if you're not actually synchronizing anything, rsync doesn't add value05:36
DarthFrogNightWalker: "su -" won't work unless you set a root password.  That will enable the root account.05:36
nikkiamister_roboto: i'd be more worried about the inherent security problems with enabling nfs on a machine05:36
robin_2sudo su works05:36
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mister_robotonikkia: yes, but on an internal network    <shrug>05:36
NightWalkerI do su omar and pass05:36
JabberWokkyNightWalker: You can use sudo -s05:37
DarthFrogunison?  Hmm, have to check it out.05:37
nikkiamister_roboto: even so, enabling rpc behind a firewall is still a risk, IMO05:37
jrjxFor sudo, I was doing "sudo bash" before, but now I do "sudo -s" to get basically the same thing.05:37
nikkiayeah, unison is great, i use it for keeping work&home source trees synced05:37
NightWalkerOkey i am in like root05:37
JabberWokkynikkia: Ditto here... plus I do three way syncs with it, nice.05:38
mister_robotonikkia: i prefer to just vpn to the cvs repo at work for that ;)05:38
strike4ceAnyone know why Kate would open up when I download a program to desktop on the Konqueror web browser05:38
DarthFrogNightWalker: Then sit on your hands before you issue any root commands.   A good habit to get into.  Saves asking questions like "How do I recover from "rm -rf /". :-)05:38
nikkiamister_roboto: sadly, i've tried and tried, but cannot get my work to institute a cvs respos.05:38
nikkiamister_roboto: and my boss is well aware of the benefits, just no time or money to spend on getting a server, setting it up, and training the other employees to use it05:39
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mister_robotonikkia: yes, i can understand that. however, the cost of NOT using at least some kind of source control is far higher  :)    you're using SOMETHING, i  hope05:40
NightWalkerYes05:40
xxenonhow do I get MP3 playback in Xine ? (5.10)05:40
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JabberWokkyAnybody know a way to change the text mode resolution of virtual consoles (other than vidmode, which gets blown away when apt fetches a new kernel)?05:40
NightWalkerbut i am finish to try mutsh comand to day and nothing WORK05:40
libbendo i miss something in my sources.list http://libben.pastebin.com/39442405:40
nikkiamister_roboto: sadly, no, not really, however, our industry is a bit different, we're generally '1 programmer to a team'05:40
libbencause i dont have some things that are supposed to be in breezy05:41
nikkiamister_roboto: there are definite gains we could get from implementing version control, but they're not as big gains as you'd see in a large team environment05:41
mister_robotonikkia: once you get into the habit though, you'll find you want to use it even on your personal projects. it frees you so much from worrying about doing experiments and EASILY backing up to previous points, for example. it really adds no overhead once you get used to it. saves you time and stress05:42
NightWalkerconfigure: error: libxml2 must be installed.05:42
NightWalker:S05:42
JabberWokkyAt the very least you can have a nightly commit to your source trees and be able to jump back.  I use svn that way.05:42
JabberWokkyJust on private projects.05:42
xuniL_okey i have a irritating problem i cant change my kde menu...  and i dont have a clue why!05:43
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mister_robotonikkia: seriously, if you're a developer, you should try installing subversion at least (improved cvs)     or cvs.   it's not hard to use and there are good online docs05:43
libbenmy menu wont update itselfs with newly installed programs05:43
libbensuch as adept05:43
nikkiamister_roboto: atm, i use unison for that :), i never sync when i'm mid-way thru experimental changes to my code... its not perfect, but it suffices, i do have a local cvs server on my work PC, but there are numerous reasons why i don't use it, mostly related to issues with IDE integration aspects of cvs05:43
mister_robotonikkia: i mean at home... play with it05:43
libbenand i also dont have the new apps that are supposed to be in final05:43
xuniL_save here libben and i cant even add any thing....05:43
mister_robotonikkia: what ide?05:43
nikkiamister_roboto: you're telling the wrong person, really :)05:43
xuniL_same05:44
mister_robotonikkia:   ok :)05:44
nikkiamister_roboto: i've been using source code control systems since 198905:44
libbeni miss guidance tools05:44
strike4ceWhat is the command for installing from desktop  cd Desktop then what else?05:44
NightWalkerWhat is this : configure: error: libxml2 must be installed.05:44
xuniL_./configure05:44
xuniL_make 05:44
xuniL_make install05:44
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orangeyhey all!05:44
mister_robotonikkia: gotcha. i thought you might not have been, in which case it would be worth your while to try it.  no sense preaching to the choir!05:44
strike4ceis it dpkg -i program(tab)??05:44
nikkiamister_roboto: as to what IDE, just about all of them have some issues when it comes to non-guarenteed respository availability, even emacs has situations where it'll sit and make you wait while it tries to contact the server, without you even asking it to check05:45
orangeysince upgrading kubuntu, I haven't been able to get my /etc/fstab to update in response to new media..05:45
JabberWokkynikkia: subversion and unison work great.  If you want to transfer the repository, use it like normal.  If you want a clean source tree, add "ignore = Name .svn" to your unison .prf file.05:45
strike4cemister_roboto: can you help me?05:45
orangeyany reason for that ?05:45
NightWalkerxuniL Make dont work05:45
mister_robotostrike4ce: i don't know. what's your question?05:45
strike4cefrom cd desktop what is the dpkg command?05:46
xuniL_whats the error?05:46
xuniL_is it installed?05:46
mister_robotonikkia: if there are ide  problems, i just use the cmd line tools for checkout/commit and use the ide only as editor05:46
xuniL_i got to install it...05:46
nikkiamister_roboto: thats the problem, the editors will still occasionally try to contact the server to see if there are updates, its annoying05:46
mister_robotostrike4ce: ummm "dpkg"?05:46
strike4cemister_roboto: dpkg -i?05:47
NightWalkerHow can i install it ?05:47
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mister_robotonikkia: they won't try if they don't know about the repo!   :)     just treat the files as a bunch of local files on disk05:47
xuniL_sudo apt-get install make05:47
xuniL_in console05:47
nikkiamister_roboto: yeah, i know, i do occasionally cp -a then find . -name CVS -exec rm -R {} \;   :)05:47
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strike4cexuniL_:  are you talking to me?05:48
NightWalkerwhen i do ./configure than this came configure: error: libxml2 must be installed05:48
orangeyare people here able to see media they just inserted in kde?05:48
nikkiamister_roboto: thinking about it, unison'ing two directories with 'CVS' ignored would perhaps make that easier05:48
mister_robotonikkia: huh?  then you won't be able to check in stuff. the ide doenn't magically know about cvs just because there are CVS subdirs there.05:48
xuniL_NightWalker then install that..05:48
NightWalkerhow05:48
nikkiamister_roboto: many editors DO magically know because of the existance of 'CVS'05:49
mister_robotonikkia: "cvs export" 05:49
EnorMOZHello I just installed latest kubuntu... I am having problems downloading kftpgrabber says there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break packages... anyone else have this ??05:49
nikkiamister_roboto: try emacs sometime, you'll see it picks up on the existance of CVS and adds cvs tracking05:49
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EnorMOZbtw im doing this via adept05:49
mister_robotonikkia: ok... not an emacs user here (vi - please no flamewar :)    05:50
husohuhu05:50
mister_robotonikkia: you can't tell emacs to ignore the server?  that seems quite a pita05:50
NightWalkerxuniL how can i install it?05:51
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xuniL_open console and write sudo adept05:51
nikkiamister_roboto: you probably can, but its an additional step :/05:51
xuniL_there you can search for it...05:51
xuniL_and install it..05:51
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nikkiamister_roboto: and if it does the cvs check at file open, its still going to mean sitting and waiting a second or two for it to fail if the VPN is down for any reason05:52
NightWalkerSry i am new how can i search05:52
mister_robotonikkia: yes, i can see how that would suck :)     in your situation, it seems like you should just disable that feature by default and use cvs manually05:52
TitiNightWalker: type apt-get install libxml2-dev05:52
xuniL_under the Quick Filter05:52
mister_robotonikkia: but unison would work fine too :)05:53
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woddf2Haldo05:54
woddf2How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet?05:54
NightWalkerTiti  E: Couldn't find package libxml2-dev05:54
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Titihum... ti should be there...05:55
Titiit05:55
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NightWalkerCan y maby paste a link where i can download libxml05:57
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xuniL_i found it05:57
EnorMOZWhat is the best ftp client to use with kubuntu that supports PRET ??05:57
NightWalkerwhere ?05:58
woddf2How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet?05:58
NightWalkerTiti Can you maby paste a link where i can download libxml05:59
woddf2It just wants to create a new one.05:59
Titiwell the command i gave you should work, really...05:59
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EnorMOZhas anyone been able to install kftpgrabber on latest kubuntu ??06:01
Titidid you modify the source.list file to download packages from the net?06:01
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woddf2How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet? It just wants to create a new one.06:03
cavei still dont get it.. how do I run Kate as root?06:03
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EnorMOZsu 06:03
EnorMOZthen type the password for root06:03
DarkSeid7hello folks06:03
woddf2I can't run Kate as root either.06:04
DarkSeid7so any news on when USB functionality will be up and running in Kubuntu 5.10?06:04
caveEnorMOZ: i get nothing from that06:04
NightWalkerHow can i install RPM ?06:05
EnorMOZUSB works here06:05
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EnorMOZgot mouse and keyboard to usb06:05
woddf2I have a working USB mouse.06:05
EnorMOZyes06:05
EnorMOZlogitech mx70006:06
caveim just trying to mount my hard drives here... someone told me to edit the /etc/fstab file06:06
DarkSeid72 machines and both have non functioning USB06:06
woddf2How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet? It just wants to create a new one.06:06
cavebut i cant save any changes if i'm not root06:06
orangeyare people here able to see media they just inserted in kde?06:06
DarkSeid7both AFTER I dist-upgrade to 5.1006:06
orangeydoh!06:06
orangeyWhat I mean to ask is: Anybody here using pmount with breezy???06:06
EnorMOZI just installed kubuntu 06:07
EnorMOZdidnt do upgrade06:07
caveooh pmount sounds interesting!06:07
orangeycave, it is : )06:07
cavei never heard about it, just read it's description on Adept06:08
orangeycave, as I understand, it's automatically being used..06:08
orangeycave, do you use usb drives?06:08
woddf2Will someone please answer my question?06:08
caveoh06:08
orangeycave, if so, just plug it in.. if it appears, then pmount is running fine..06:08
DarkSeid7yet on the same machines if I change to the GDM and boot into Gnome USB works like a charm06:08
caveno, my drives are internal06:08
orangeyor i guess it could be fstab-sync that's running too..06:08
NightWalkerHow can i install rpm packets06:09
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soulslayer9090hi06:10
soulslayer9090i need some help here06:10
soulslayer9090please06:10
soulslayer9090please06:10
orangeysoulslayer9090, just ask your question06:10
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caveI installed Kubuntu yesterday06:10
NightWalkerHow can i install rpm compiler06:10
NightWalker????06:11
cavefirst priority is to mount my other partitions to access my files... 06:11
ChousukeNightWalker: rpm compiler? 06:12
NightWalkerwhere can i get libxml 2.0.006:12
ChousukeI think it's in universe06:12
Chousukeit should be06:12
Chousukebut wtf do you mean with rpm compiler?06:12
DarkSeid7sudo apt-get install libxml06:13
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orangeyChousuke, any idea whether breezy uses fstab-sync or pmount?06:13
Chousukeorangey: I think it uses pmount. I'm not sure though.06:13
NightWalkerE: Couldn't find package libxml06:13
NightWalkerDarkSeid7 06:13
DarkSeid7so any clues as to why USB works when I use Gnome but not K on the SAME machine?06:13
DarkSeid7hrmph...06:13
woddf2Will someone please answer my question?06:13
DarkSeid7ok well then06:13
ChousukeDarkSeid7: KDE has HAL trouble.06:14
Chousukethat might explain it :P06:14
orangeyChousuke, would you mind double-checking? it looks like my /etc/fstab isn't updating when I put in a device..06:14
DarkSeid7that explains my DCOP explosions06:14
DarkSeid7DOH!06:14
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soulslayer8787excuse me im back06:14
Chousukeorangey: I think it isn't supposed to update :/06:14
soulslayer8787this wifi connection is extremely unnestable06:14
Chousukeorangey: but I'm not even running Ubuntu now. :/06:15
DarkSeid7Nightwalker the other thing you could try is to add the debian repositories to your sources.list file06:15
DarkSeid7and then do an apt-get update06:15
soulslayer8787can you help me with my connection problem06:15
DarkSeid7if all else fails... compile it06:15
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orangeyChousuke, if it's not supposed to update, that would be quite the step back..06:15
orangeyChousuke, it *did* update in hoary06:15
soulslayer8787someone06:15
Chousukeorangey: hmm.06:16
NightWalkerI am new in linux and 2 i am form icelandic dont under stand :S06:16
woddf2Will someone please answer my question?06:16
ChousukeDarkSeid7: Debian repos?06:16
ChousukeDarkSeid7: That will break things.06:16
Chousukebad.06:16
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DarkSeid7no it wont06:16
Chousukeyes it will.06:16
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DarkSeid7hell I have hoary running on my laptop with a mix of deb and ubuntu repositories06:16
DarkSeid7works like a charm06:17
soulslayer8787ok06:17
ChousukeAnd you don't even need Debian repos. There's universe.06:17
DarkSeid7apt is a wonderful thing06:17
ChousukeWhy the hell do you need Debian repos anyway?06:17
ChousukeDarkSeid7: Anyway, I suppose you're using apt-preferences06:17
Chousukewithout pinning it's likely they'll break.06:17
NightWalker:(06:17
DarkSeid7because there are a few things that dont exist in the ubuntu repos06:18
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woddf2No one is answering my question.06:18
Firetechthis ivman thingie, shouldn't it be started automatically? (or is it?)06:18
DarkSeid7whats the question wodf sorry06:18
woddf2How do I get Kopete to use a different wallet?06:19
ChousukeDarkSeid7: I still wouldn't mix Debian repos without any pinning.06:19
DarkSeid7no clue.. I use GAIM06:19
IronfrostI have a fairly simple question about .bashrc06:19
Ironfrostdoes it only affect bash or does it affect sh as well?06:19
libbenhow do i know if i have the updated breezy?06:19
Ironfrostand if not, what is the equivalent file for sh06:20
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ChousukeIronfrost: sh is bash in Ubuntu, usually.06:20
Mortis_kruulLook at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :)06:20
ChousukeDarkSeid7: Actually I'd probably just add the source repos and rebuild the packages for Ubuntu 06:20
killersHOLA06:20
killersALGUNO QUE HABLE ESPAOL?06:20
DarkSeid7well for source I usually just hit sourceforge and get the tarballs06:21
libbenjust english06:21
Chousukekillers: English.06:21
Chousuke!es06:21
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:21
orangeyand what exactly is ivman, for that matter?06:21
Mortis_kruulFor espanol look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl 06:21
ChousukeSomeone kick Mortis_kruul 06:21
killersTHANKS06:21
Mortis_kruulSorry06:21
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xuniL_can someone help me with this compling error? http://pastebin.com/39448606:21
libbensome1 tell me how i know if i have the upadted breezy06:21
libbencause i miss alot of programs06:22
Chousukekillers: avoid using caps. :/06:22
Ironfrostchousuke: to give more detail, I have some source-distributed program that wants to use sh when I tell it to compile (I'm not a developer, that's just how the program is distributed)06:22
ChousukeIronfrost: what sh?06:22
Chousukesh in Ubuntu is a symbolic link to bash06:22
Ironfrostah, OK06:23
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Ironfrostbecause when I type sh in the terminal it looks different, and it doesn't remember the things I have added to the path that session06:23
xuniL_any one who could help me with this problem06:24
xuniL_http://pastebin.com/39448606:24
killers??06:24
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Armagguedeshm does anyone here have kubuntu and is accessing the intarweb thru a 2200BG wifi card?06:24
ChousukeIronfrost: hm.06:24
Chousukewhat does it look like?06:25
robin_2xuniL_: Undefined references are linker errors, do you have set-up the lib path right?06:25
robin_2xuniL_: using configure..06:25
xuniL_i have runed the configure without any errors06:25
robin_2btw, you should not use for compiling :)06:26
Ironfrostchousuke: I'll come back in a few minutes once I've taken screenshots06:26
robin_2*not use root06:26
DarkSeid7ooh another thing.  Anyone notice that X is a hell of a lot SLOWER in Breezy?06:26
DarkSeid7both Kubuntu and Ubuntu?06:26
xuniL_robin_2 why not?06:26
xuniL_just logged as root al the time... right now..06:27
DarkSeid7I was getting 2800 fps running GLX gears06:27
libbenhow do i check if i have the new updated x?06:27
robin_2xuniL_: because if the script for example runs rm -rf /lib you are in serious problems..06:27
libbenxorg i mean06:27
DarkSeid7now I am gettin around 170006:27
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robin_2xuniL_: only run as root, when it is needed.06:27
xuniL_robin_2 heh...06:27
xuniL_okey..06:27
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xuniL_will do...06:28
xuniL_any clue on the problem?06:28
Firetechwhat is wrong with HAL?06:29
robin_2xuniL_: hmm, well most of the time this means, It can't find the library (therefor undefined references).. so probably the configure script doesn't check it.06:29
Firetechjust curious06:29
caveyay i got it!06:29
DarkSeid7firetech apparently a few things06:29
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cavestupid mistake > At the run dialog i was typing Kate instead of kate 06:29
xuniL_robin_2 i have also got a other problem i cant change things in the kmenuedit...06:29
cave:P06:29
robin_2xuniL_: you could find out where those libraries are, and give it as parameter with the configure script.06:29
xuniL_i save as root but nothing happens06:29
RichardCis there anywhere i can find an updated sources list for kubuntu 5.10, like the one found at ubuntuguide.org?06:29
DarkSeid7I have ZERO usb support after doing a dist-upgrade06:29
FiretechMy devices doesn't show up in KDE (desktop and konqueror @ media:/)06:30
Firetechmight be the HAL stuff06:30
DarkSeid7USB devices?06:30
Firetechdevices = USB devices06:30
Chousukeyeah 06:30
robin_2xuniL_: why not, are the fields disabled ?06:30
Chousukethat's HAL06:30
DarkSeid7DING DING DING06:30
DarkSeid7give that man a cupie doll06:30
DarkSeid7thats the problem06:30
robin_2DarkSeid7: see topic.. they are working on it.06:31
xuniL_robin_2 fields disabled06:31
xuniL_?06:31
caverobin, i edited the file like you said06:31
caveremember? to mount my hard drives?06:31
Firetechthey mount OK if I run ivman in the background (manually with pmount should work too)06:31
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robin_2Cave yes?06:31
robin_2cave and it didn't work ?06:31
DarkSeid7ooh I know they are06:31
DarkSeid7I tried an early fix yesterday06:32
caveCould not mount device. The reported error was: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist06:32
cavethis is what igot when i clicked the desktop icon that popped up06:32
DarkSeid7hey for a free O/S it's not like I am complaining06:32
DarkSeid7if I have to use my camera I just drop into Gnome06:32
kihajiis anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.06:32
robin_2Cave oh, simple create /mnt/windows, or whereever you like it to be mounted.06:32
robin_2and about the newline, just add an extra enter, after the last line.06:33
robin_2*enter= newline.06:33
cavehow do i do that ?06:33
robin_2cave sudo mkdir /mnt/windows06:33
DarkSeid7so besides K/ubuntu anyone else excited about Cedega 5.0 coming out?06:33
DarkSeid7I am giddy 06:33
FiretechI get these strange lines filling my syslog now and then since my upgrade to breezy:06:33
FiretechOct 15 18:28:34 barbaque kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).06:33
FiretechOct 15 18:28:34 barbaque kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.06:33
FiretechI first get pressed and then released, and I can't figure out what it is, any ideas?06:33
robin_2DarkSeid7: what's special about it ?06:33
DarkSeid7from the rumor mill FULL DX9 support as well as Pixel Shader 1.4 and Vertex Shader support06:34
FiretechI should add that I don't press any keys to get it...06:34
DarkSeid7which means in English a whole lot more games will be working06:34
robin_2DarkSeid7: that is the free version ?06:34
DarkSeid7pay for version06:34
DarkSeid7it's worth the $5 a month06:34
kihajiis anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.06:34
robin_2DarkSeid7: hmm, don't like to pay.06:34
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caveok not i dont get an error anymore06:34
cave*now i don't06:34
robin_2DarkSeid7: I got windows for the games :)06:34
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DarkSeid7for $5 a month it's worth every penny06:34
Firetechrobin_2: you can download it illegally too ;)06:34
cavebut the drive has no files in it.. so that can't be right06:35
Chousukerobin_2: pay up.06:35
DarkSeid7I trashed windows on EVERYTHING I own06:35
DarkSeid7and am happy as a clam06:35
Chousukerobin_2: not like 5 dollars a month will drive you bankrupt.06:35
robin_2DarkSeid7: well i got windows legal, so ..06:35
DarkSeid7just got done converting my iPaq to Familiar Linux w/ the Opie desktop06:35
Chousukerobin_2: so?06:35
robin_2Chousuke: no it will not, but i don't like subscriptions...06:35
robin_2Chousuke: so what 06:36
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robin_2cave: ehm, what does 'sudo mount' gives ?06:36
roguejedixEr, what repository contains w32 codecs for Breezy?06:36
kihajiis anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root, yet I can sudo on the commandline.06:37
cave /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)    proc on /proc type proc (rw)    sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)   devpts on /dev/pts type devpts   (rw,gid=5,mode=620)  tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)  usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)  tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type  tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)  tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)06:37
robin_2!sudo06:37
ubotuhmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:37
caveremoved line breaks to send06:37
robin_2!kdesu06:38
ubotuUse kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.06:38
cavehow o i undo that hda5 thing i did? now its a phantom drive :S06:38
robin_2:D06:38
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robin_2just edit /etc/fstab06:38
robin_2and replace it with the correct one..06:38
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satafterhhello all, i have a question, i installed kde 3.5 and harddrive no longer showing in sytem folder, how do i get it back??06:39
cavethis isnt working06:39
caveits just screwing things up further06:40
cavei have 2 new drive icons on my desktop06:40
caveone gives an error when i click, the other is empty06:40
robin_2cave open konsole, and type sudo mount06:41
robin_2cave what does it say (paste in pastebin)06:41
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caveok06:42
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cavehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39451606:43
robin_2and what is in /etc/fstab06:44
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cavefrom the original, i just added this line:   /dev/hdb       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=000       0       0 06:44
robin_2ok, and if you type in konsole mount -a06:44
robin_2than you should have files in /mnt/windows06:45
cave[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing codepage or other error      In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try    dmesg | tail  or so06:46
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robin_2cave ok, go to konsole and type sudo fdisk -l06:46
robin_2and paste the contents in pastebin.06:47
cavewhat will that do?06:47
robin_2list all the partitions 06:47
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cavehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/39452306:48
caveeverything looks fine...06:48
robin_2ah right06:48
robin_2i see06:48
robin_2in /etc/fstab you have /dev/hdb06:48
robin_2change it to /dev/hdb106:48
caveok.. and what about my fat32 partition in hda?06:49
cavethats the one all my files are in... hdb is just a windows install06:50
robin_2i'm not serious, but think you should replace 'ntfs' with 'fat' and you can remove ro. (because fat is writable in linux)06:50
robin_2eh06:50
robin_2i'nm not certain06:50
SgepWhat's kdesktop_lock?06:50
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robin_2cave /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows2    fat    user,umask=000       0       006:51
robin_2and first sudo mkdir /mnt/windows206:51
Sgepkdesktop_lock crashed06:51
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robin_2Sgep: to lock your screen..06:51
SgepShould I do `apt-get dist-upgrade'?06:52
Firetechdoes anyone here know any good database of scancodes for keyboards (Logitech Cordless Keyboard preferably)06:52
cavecan the filename have spaces in it?06:52
IronfrostChousuke (or anyone else who is able to help): I edited .bashrc and it seemed to work, but the compiler script is still telling me that the file does not exist06:52
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Ironfrosthttp://pastebin.com/39452406:52
robin_2cave which filename?06:52
cavelike instead of windows and windows2, can i have windows (NTFS) and windows (FAT32)?06:52
Ironfrostit tells me: 06:52
Ironfrost/bin/sh: pgf90: command not found06:52
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robin_2cave, ehm well don't use it, you ahve to escape the spaces with a \.. use underscores instead of spaces.06:53
caveok06:53
SgepCan I restart without my computer blowing up?06:53
caveso windows_NTFS and winfows_FAT32 it is06:53
Ironfrostbut pgf90 does exist06:53
Ironfrostwhen I just type it in from bash or sh06:53
robin_2winfows ;)06:54
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robin_2cave ok, know edit /etc/fstab06:54
orangeyhmmm.06:54
robin_2cave and run mount -a again.06:54
orangeykubuntu should likely ship with a lower hal right now06:54
robin_2cave it should work :) i think.06:54
robin_2orangey: yes, the one in RC1.06:54
orangeyrobin_, why is it shipping with a newer one?06:55
orangeyrobin_, it's actually broken right now.06:55
robin_2orangey: I dont' know, but RC1 was working..06:55
robin_2*did work.06:55
orangeyrobin_, strange..06:55
robin_2orangey: yes06:55
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orangeyrobin_, are you using the rc package now?06:55
orangeyaseigo!!!!!!!!!!06:55
_martinQ: I have managed to mount a nfs folder in my home directory, but althought i have assigned read AND write, I can only read. This is my fstab: 10.0.0.3:/home/server  /home/martin/server    nfs          rw            0    0 --- and this is my /etc/exports:/home/martin/ *(rw,async,all_squash)06:55
robin_2orangey: No, i'm just waiting till the fix it.. and i hope it will be soon..06:56
orangeyrobin_, it can't be.06:56
robin_2_martin: ntfs writing is not possibl06:56
orangeyrobin_, ubuntu works with the newer one.06:56
caveok... HDB is working now!06:56
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cavebut for hda1... mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'06:56
orangeyrobin_, actually, it is. it's just dangerous06:56
orangeyrobin_, and I think they're waiting till kde 3.5 comes out..06:56
orangeyrobin_, since that *does* support the newest hal / dbus06:56
robin_2orangey: before they fix it..06:57
robin_2orangey: wtf.. 06:57
_martinBut there is an option for writeable in the options06:57
orangeyrobin_, writing to ntfs is possible, just dangerous06:57
robin_2orangey: yeah, i mean the hal stuff.06:57
orangey_martin, there are lots of kinds of NTFS that aren't really well documented by MS. So, it's hard to write a driver that knows how to identify them and write to them.06:58
orangey_martin, so for quite some time, writing was considered a fool's sport. Today, it is simply risky06:58
cavei tried changing fat to fat32 but i got the same error (unknown filesystem type 'fat32' )06:58
orangeycave: vfat?06:58
orangeyrobin_2, well, who do we talk to about getting that fixed?06:58
cavei'll try that06:58
roguejedixEr, why won't amaroK play anything in Breezy?06:59
caveyay thank you!06:59
caveworked now06:59
robin_2orangey: see topic, they are working on it.. and i hope it will be fixed before dapper.06:59
cavewhat the fuck is vfat? >_>06:59
robin_2cave: indeed i think it is vfat06:59
_martinorangey: But that was not the question... I have mounted another ext3 filesystem to my computer (ext3) NOT NTFS06:59
_martinNFS06:59
_martinfilesharing06:59
orangey_martin, what is your question?06:59
orangeycave: the name for fat3207:00
orangeyrobin_2, yeah.. didn't spot it : )07:00
orangeyrobin_2, this is why I recommended that my friends not upgrade to breezy for a week or two : )07:00
_martinorangey: how to make it writeable07:00
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robin_2orangey: yeah, but they should have delayed the kubuntu release, it is __NOT__ stable.07:01
orangey_martin, Ok, start from the beginning, since I obviously came too late.. are we talking about ntfs?07:01
orangeyrobin_2, but did they know that before release day?07:02
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_martinorangey: not NTFS, but a ext3 filesystem on another computer mounted with nfs07:02
orangeysince ubuntu is gnome-driven, I think it's expected that kubuntu will always have some hiccups.. think of that admin mode bug07:02
robin_2orangey: yes, I mentioned it ion bugzilla.07:02
orangey_martin, well, you don't need to specify.. if you have write permissions, you write.07:03
robin_2orangey: but that's not the only problem.. kaffeine is also very _unstable_..07:03
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orangeyrobin_2, well, it's "stable" if you put xine and disable arts : )07:03
orangeybut you're right.. it doesn't work out of the box AT ALL07:03
_martinorangey: I have managed to mount a nfs folder in my home directory, but althought i have assigned read AND write, I can only read. This is my fstab: 10.0.0.3:/home/server  /home/martin/server    nfs          rw            0    0 --- and this is my /etc/exports:/home/martin/ *(rw,async,all_squash)07:03
robin_2orangey: try fullscreen with xine, and it crashes.. at least by me.07:04
_martinorangey: but as you see, I DO HAVE set the right write permissions07:04
_martinorangey: so that's the problem...07:04
robin_2orangey: and kaffeine with xine engine, won't let you open a file, if one is allready opened or playing.. it crashes too...07:04
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nikki_a_martin, erm, that doesn't look right07:05
robin_2orangey: the only thing i'm really happy with is that with breezy I can finally use suspend-to-ram and hibernate on my laptop even when using ndiswrapper... 07:05
orangey_martin, try this from remote server: chmod gou+wrx /home/server/testfile07:06
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orangeyrobin_2, what kind of laptop?07:06
orangeyrobin_2, you need to disable your artsd07:06
nikki_a_martin: you are aware that the exports should be on the server, and should name the path of the server side, ie /home/server in this cas, right?07:06
orangeyrobin_2, the same thing happened to me till I did that..07:06
caveok just one little thing now.. how do i delete that empty /mnt/windows folder?07:06
orangeynikki_a, good point.. he's talking about his fstab, though..07:06
nikki_a_martin: in what you've pasted, it almost looks like you're talking about the exports file on the local side, and even there, it has the wrong path07:06
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_martinnikki_a:yes07:07
nikki_aorangey: its not an fstab issue, its a nfs exports issue07:07
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Kyaneoshi07:07
_martinnikki_a:yes, just a typo here in the chat the actual path is /home/server07:07
orangeynikki_a, fair enough07:08
robin_2orangey: cheapo dell inspiron 110007:09
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robin_2cave first make sure you don't have anything mounted on it.. remove it with sudo rm -rf /mnt/windows07:09
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bonggnuhi07:09
robin_2cave don't make a typo, or you are in serious trouble. :)07:09
richardAnyone install the Final Release of Breezy?07:10
bonggnuhi, i missed the proyect window in k3b, how could "call" it, to make a project07:10
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cavethats the inverse command from sudo mkdir /mnt/windows? :P07:10
robin_2orangey: and where do you disable artsd ?07:10
orangeyrobin_2, system settings > sound server or such07:11
robin_2orangey: oh yes of course.07:11
caveyay it disappeared~ 07:11
nikki_arobin_2: using rmdir would be safer07:11
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robin_2nikki_a: lol, didn't knew that command07:11
bonggnuwhere could i locate the config file of k3b of my user?07:11
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robin_2nikki_a: will keep that in mind..07:11
_martinorangey: what you suggested worked.. i could write to that file... but I can't make new files and folders or stuff... or it's kinda lost it's point if I have to to that with all files... what to do?07:11
robin_2orangey: ok I will try it..07:11
nikki_arobin_2: well, rmdir won't do anything, other than print a message, if you forget to umount it :)07:12
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robin_2nikki_a: ok :)07:12
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robin_2yakuake is **really** cool 07:13
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torkianohello!! I upgrade to breeze and my serial-mouse don't work!!!! How can I configure it?07:14
torkianoThanks07:14
robin_2torkiano: np07:14
torkianoi try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i can't choose the type of mouse07:15
torkiano:-(07:15
robin_2orangey: doesn't make a difference, it is still crashing when I try to open another file.07:16
richardI've had problems with the final release of breezy, seems the bugs that have been plaguing earler beta releases are still here.07:16
robin_2richard: plus new ones..07:17
richardWifi can't be enabled or disabled, on my system in administrator mode. . . 07:17
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richardI'm using Ubuntu now and it's pretty sweet, even thought I prefer KDE. 07:18
_martinorangey: do I have to do that command you gave me to the root folder to get it working?07:18
robin_2richard: I hate gnome, it is just plain ugly :)07:18
richardWhy did they release the final of breezy with major bugs?07:18
_martinorangey: I mean the /home/server folder07:18
orangey_martin, that command is a bad general idea.. but it'll help you debug permission issues07:18
robin_2richard: really no idea.. 07:19
_martinok07:19
_martinorangey: so how make the whole of my /home/server writeable to me on the other computer?07:19
richardUbuntu isn't ugly if you download and install desktop backgrounds, different Icon sets, and Splash screens. 07:19
richardI've got a ton of these on my computer now, and it looks very nice. 07:20
robin_2richard: I have used ubuntu hoary with different themes for about 5 months, I really dislike it..07:20
robin_2richard: but that is my view :)07:20
torkianoanyone can help me? My mouse doesn't work!! Downgrade to hoary? :-(07:20
orangey_martin, well, you have to rule out permissions problems.. so make a *subdirectory* globally writeable (777; gou+wrx)07:21
orangeythen if that works, you'll know it's a permissions problem.07:21
orangeyif not, then it's another problem.07:21
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richardWell, to each his own, I'd use KDE if they can get it to function properly. . ..I need WiFi connectablility!!!!!07:21
richardI had the newest Version of Suse 10 on my system last week and it was pretty good. Much more improved over earlier versions. . . . 07:22
robin_2richard: but those wifimanager are only frontends to command like tools, if you can get it to work in ubuntu it should work in kubuntu too.07:22
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robin_2richard: suse is nice, too bad It isn't debian based :)07:22
frank23richard: If the kde wifi tool doesn't work, you can install gnome-system-tools  and run network-admin07:23
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woddf2Where do I get KGpg?07:23
richardI can't enable my wifi in the administrator mode. It enables for about 1 sec. then goes back into disable. . .07:24
woddf2apt-get couldn't find it.07:24
frank23richard: network-admin should work07:24
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robin_2richard: I had that too, but I just use wpa_supplicant and ifconfig wlan0 up.. that seems to work (with ndiswrapper)>.07:24
frank23richard: in hoary the kde wifi config didn't work and that's what I did. I thought they fixed it but maybe not ....07:25
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woddf2Neither Adept nor apt-get could find KGpg. Where do I get it?07:25
frank23woddf2: its in universe07:25
woddf2Oh07:25
richardI'll keep working on it. . . . 07:25
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woddf2How do I add the universe repository?07:26
frank23woddf2: in adept go to manage repositories and enable universe07:26
richardGood chating to you all. . . .got to run. . ..day is short and this computer came burn up the hours. 07:26
woddf2I went to Manage Repositories but I didn't find the universe repository.07:27
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woddf2Oh, I see it now.07:27
robin_2woddf2: look again :)07:27
cavehow do i download mp3 playback support for amarok?07:28
cavei got mpeglib but that didnt do it07:28
frank23cave: gstreamer0.8-mad is supposed to add mp3 support07:29
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cavecant find that one in the repositories07:31
frank23cave: either in universe or multiverse07:31
robin_2cave: in universe07:32
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woddf2It worked!07:34
woddf2Thanks07:34
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elementarmyhow do i get mp3 playback on amaroK?07:34
robin_2gstreamer0.8-mad is supposed to add mp3 support07:34
robin_2elementarmy: you can find it in the universe repositories..07:35
elementarmywheres that?07:35
robin_2elementarmy: enable them in your package manager.07:35
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elementarmycool thanks07:35
frank23if  gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't work, amarok-xine definitly works07:36
cavemeh.. cant find either.. ive enabled all universe an dmultiverse repositories07:37
robin_2cave you have updated them ?07:38
robin_2cave apt-get update07:38
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caveoh! stupid me :P07:39
cavesorry guys... i'm new to linux -.-07:39
elementarmyi cant find ether of them07:39
robin_2elementarmy: ask cave :)07:40
caveelementarmy: on the oolbar, click on adept >> fetch updates07:40
elementarmyalready did that07:40
caveoh07:40
cavethen i dunno :X07:40
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cavedid you do hat after enabling the sources?07:41
elementarmyyes07:41
cave*that07:41
robin_2robin@kubuntu:/mnt$ apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mad07:41
robin_2gstreamer0.8-mad - MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer07:41
robin_2robin@kubuntu:/mnt$ apt-cache search amarok-xine07:42
robin_2amarok-gstreamer - GStreamer engine for the amaroK audio player07:42
robin_2amarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player07:42
robin_2they are there really07:42
robin_2and sorry for the paste..07:42
elementarmyalso how could i login as su07:42
robin_2sudo su07:43
elementarmycan i change the password?07:43
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robin_2!root07:43
ubotuwell, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:43
robin_2!sudo07:43
ubotuI guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:43
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robin_2take a look there.07:43
elementarmycool iam root :-)07:44
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caveyay xine worked07:47
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trothcan someone give me link for a good dowloading and installing tutorial because i am just not understanding this07:50
frank23cave: in amarok you mean? did gstreamer0.8-mad not work?07:50
tencohi! ive updated now my second box to breezy. now kdm doesnt work anymore!07:50
frank23!tell troth about repos07:50
tencois this a known problem? how can i fix it?07:50
cavenope... but maybe i just didnt set it up properly... 07:50
robin_2troth: what do you want to install ?07:51
caveis there a reason to choose gstreamer over xine anyways?07:51
tencoon the first system i updated kdm worked but X was slow like hell until i rebooted the box two times07:51
trothi want to get a bit torrent program going so i can slowly phase windows out more and more07:51
frank23cave: no, I never use gstreamer at all07:51
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ph8hey guys, got a couple of quick newbie questions apologies in advance:07:53
frank23troth: you can install ktorrent easily. azureus is a bit harder but not too much07:53
ph8I'm trying to find out how much free disk space i had - though the command was 'quota' - obviously not?07:53
ph82. I want to stop something in init.d starting, i heard there's a binary for this?07:53
frank23ph8: df07:53
ph8ty07:53
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trothi tried apt-get of bit tornado and regular old bit torrent, but i dont know where they went or how to apply them07:54
robin_2troth: there are some bittorrent clients in the repositories.. which pacakge manager do you use?07:54
trothbit tornado07:54
robin_2troth: try ktorrent07:54
trothk07:54
robin_2it will be placed in the internet category in the k-start menu07:55
robin_2troth: you know how to download with adept or apt or synaptic ?07:55
frank23!bum07:55
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html07:55
frank23ph8: you can use bum for the init.d scripts07:56
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trothi have kynaptic, but yes ive learned the commands for installing but i dont really know what happens after that07:56
robin_2troth: synaptic works better IMHO.. anyway normally the new program shows up in the menu.. or you have to search for it :07:57
trothok ktorrent does not show, should i look for synaptic?07:59
cavehey does rhythmbox run in kde?08:00
robin_2troth what if you type in konsole : ktorrent08:00
trothbash: ktorrent: command not found08:01
pussfelleri added some custom keyboard mappings to xkb and when I upgraded, now xceyboard-config is messed up and i have no virtual term08:01
robin_2troth: hmm, than you havent' installed it (correctly).. well type in konsole: sudo apt-get install synaptic08:01
robin_2and after that use synaptic.08:01
pussfellergnome wont even boot at all08:01
robin_2to install ktorrent08:01
trothk08:01
pussfellerwhy would you wanna run rthymbox...08:02
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pussfellerbut yeah it will if you install it08:03
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trothno results for ktorrent in synaptic either08:05
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apokryphostroth: enable the universe repository08:06
trothk08:06
Originoopackages.ubuntu.com08:06
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Originoouniverse08:06
apokryphosnot sure if it's on hoary, though08:06
robin_2troth: ah, you have't enabed universe08:06
robin_2!universe08:07
ubotuask me about !repositories08:07
robin_2!repositories08:07
ubotusomebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)08:07
trothhow do i enable pls08:07
robin_2ok open synaptic08:07
apokryphostroth: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line with "universe"08:07
apokryphos*lines08:08
robin_2go to settings08:08
robin_2click repositories08:08
robin_2and select the entries who have the universe section..08:08
robin_2or manually edit the files as apokryphos said.08:08
troththere is no repositories in the settings tab08:09
apokryphostroth: if you're using synaptic, use the link above -- it explains it for you08:10
trothk08:10
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trothok so i am basically opening all the repository sies that are available?08:15
apokryphosnot all; you just wanna enable Universe08:15
trothk the link seems different than the version i have08:15
tencowhy does the nvidia module for X lack TNT2 support in breezy?08:16
trothYou are adding the "universe" component.08:16
troth Packages in this component are not supported. Are you sure?08:16
apokryphostroth: then just edit the file as I suggested08:16
trothwhen i add a shaded link in the repositories list it gives this warning: k08:16
trothk ill try the edit08:17
apokryphostroth: alt+f2 -> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list08:17
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trothCommand 'kwrite/etc/sources.list' not found.08:20
[square] how to use katapult?08:20
troththe edit command errored out too08:20
apokryphostroth: put in exactly what I said :)08:20
apokryphos!tell [square]  about katapult08:20
insanekane[square] : use Alt+Space, or Ctrl+space to activate it ... then start typing something (e.g. type Kopete)08:21
trothyou're right i must have typed wrong08:21
trothk got it open08:21
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trothsays this http://pastebin.ca/2561008:23
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trothso i want to delete the 2 links that end with universe correct?08:24
woddf2Haldo08:24
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woddf2How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?08:24
apokryphostroth: you're on hoary?08:24
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trothyes08:24
apokryphostroth: you won't be able to get ktorrent anyway08:24
apokryphosit's only in Breezy08:25
trothlol ok08:25
apokryphostroth: but it's good to enable the universe and multiverse repositories08:25
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apokryphostroth: remove the "#" from the repositories that have Universe08:25
apokryphostroth: and add "multiverse" to all the lines that have universe, too08:26
orangeywhere do I report kubuntu bugs??08:26
apokryphosbugzilla08:26
orangeyTHE bugzilla?08:26
apokryphosbugzilla.ubuntu.com08:26
orangeythanks08:26
woddf2How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?08:26
trothk just the 2 in the middle correct?08:26
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apokryphostroth: yup08:27
trothk08:27
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woddf2No one is paying attention.08:28
trothk now reads as follows http://pastebin.ca/2561108:28
Originoowoddf2: kmix08:28
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woddf2What should I do in kmix?08:29
apokryphostroth: why did you add multiuniverse?08:29
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troth<apokryphos> troth: and add "multiverse" to all the lines that have universe, too08:30
apokryphostroth: I said add "multiverse"; so for example the first line in that part would read:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse08:30
trothoh sorry08:30
trothread wrong08:30
woddf2I still don't know what to do in KMix.08:30
apokryphoseven though in physics the postulated multiverse encompasses the universe :P08:30
Originoowoddf2: smoething u want to do to configure your card08:30
trothk they read multiverse08:31
apokryphostroth: save it and close kwrite; then in terminal: sudo apt-get update08:31
woddf2There's just the menu bar followed by "Current mixer: [blank, unclickable combination box] "08:31
woddf2.08:31
Originoowoddf2: your question was just how to configure....08:31
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woddf2It didn't detect it when I installed it.08:31
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trothk done08:32
raingrovehow do i do a screencapture under kubuntu08:34
woddf2raingrove: ksnapshot08:34
woddf2raingrove: It's under Graphics -> Screen Capture Program (KSnapshot).08:35
trothso how do i get a torrent program going?08:36
apokryphostroth: do you have a good internet connection?08:38
trothyes t208:39
apokryphosI'd suggest you upgrade to breezy then -- it's the latest stable version of Ubuntu08:39
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PhobosWhere are the config files for katapult?08:41
raingrovewoddf2,  Thanks08:41
trothapokryphos: is there an apt-get command or anything easy like that?08:42
apokryphosyup; here's a guide:08:42
apokryphos!breezyupgrade08:42
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:42
trothperfect thx08:42
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apokryphostroth: you'll want to use the Apt-Get method, ideally08:43
trothk, learining the shell eficiently is mainly why im switching08:44
woddf2How do I install a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?08:44
trothinstall w/o verification?08:45
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woddf2...or configure08:45
woddf2?08:45
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apokryphoswoddf2: you might have more luck with non-kde-related questions in #ubuntu08:45
daveg67heres a tricky question?!?!  My wireless pcmcia wireless card works fine only after I unplug it and then plug it in again.08:45
daveg67It also worked fine without the unplug replugin dance under ubuntu, but when I switched to kubuntu it needs to be popped out and then back in again.08:47
troth Kbps! w00t08:47
troth11308:47
daveg67it was doing the same thing under 5.04 as it is still doing it under 5.1008:49
daveg67anybody else have a similar problem?08:50
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_victorola08:51
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daveg67hi08:52
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whighello08:53
FiretechHow can you inactivate the spelling checker in konqueror (forms)08:53
Firetech?08:53
whigjust upgraded my laptop from kubuntu 5.04 to 5.10, sound stopped working...08:53
whigis there a known issue?08:53
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whigno apparent errors in logs, as far as diagnostics look, sound should be up, just no sound08:54
cavemeh... i put a shortcut to the trashcan on the desktop but it only shows the " full" icon even when its mepty08:57
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slow-motionhallo09:05
craft4hi09:06
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kkathmanGood day all :)09:15
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mifritscher_hi09:17
kihajisudo is not working for me at all09:19
hussamshould I install krita 1.4.2 from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php or is krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy enough?09:20
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kkathmansudo doesnt work??09:23
kkathmannever heart of that09:23
kkathmanheard09:23
kihajiI guess my user wasn't added to the sudoers file on install.09:26
kihajiit's fixed now.09:26
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Latemdoes apt-get resolve dependancies? for example, if X requires Y, does "apt-get install X" also install Y if I dont have Y?09:29
hussamLatem: yes it will do that09:29
Latemok tahnks09:29
kkathmanLatem:  No, typically you do an apt-get install, and then it will tell you what things might be missing.09:30
kkathmansorry hussam, thats not been my experience09:30
Latemi didt get that?09:30
Latemcant u elaborate09:30
Latemlike if I do apt-get install X, it will comlaint cant do it due to failed Y dependacy?09:31
kkathmanapt-get will get the package that you ask, however, if, for instance a library is required that hasnt been installed, it doesnt guarantee it09:31
kkathmanAdept is better at that tho09:31
Latemoh so Adept can hadle it though?09:31
kkathmanbut it wont hurt anything09:31
kkathmanyou'll just get an error to get a particular package09:32
kkathmanBut, in many cases, you might get everything09:32
hussamkkathman, Latem: apt-get will resolve dependencies. for example apt-get install X will ask if you want to install x and y09:32
Latemthat would be nicer09:32
Latemlike urpmi does that exact thing09:33
Latemso i was wandering09:33
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hussamshould I stick to krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy or do I upgrade to 1.4.2 from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php ?09:33
jrattner1Why does my i686 kernel crash whenever i modprobe ndiswrapper09:34
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kkathmanhussam: I would steer you to the man apt-get and let you read that.09:36
Latemit says it resolves dependancies09:37
Latemin the man page09:37
hussamkkathman: well I'm just talking from experience. I've been pretty happy with apt-get09:37
Latem"All packages required by the package(s) specified for installation will also be retrieved and installed. '09:38
Latemunder install argument09:38
hussamLatem: a simple apt-get check will tell you if there are broke packages.09:38
Latemok i see\should have looked for a man page on the net 1st09:39
Latem=[09:39
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poimenwere is located make in kubuntu?09:41
poimentring to install vmware09:41
raingrovepoimen, make is not included in basic installation09:42
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raingroveinstall this package -> build-essential09:42
poimenok09:43
poimenthankx09:43
poimeninstalling them09:43
hussampoimen: you'll need the linux-headers for your kernel as well for vmware if I recall correctly.09:43
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poimenI am using breezy09:44
poimenwhta should I use09:44
poimen?09:44
raingrovelinux-headers-2.6.12.9-38609:45
kkathmanhussam:  I use apt-get exclusively and its usually quite reliable, and it does its best to get everything but there are somethings it has no control over :)09:45
raingrovelinux-headers-38609:45
kkathmanI'd rather use apt-get than any automated package manager, personally :)09:45
sproingieaptitude for me09:45
sproingiebetter dependency handling09:45
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hussamkkathman: can you help with something? I wanna know if I should upgrade from krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy to krita 1.4.209:47
poimenok someone has vmware here working on kubuntu breezy?09:47
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poimenbecause I get also a error abou gcc09:48
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raingrovewhat exactly is the error09:48
hussampoimen: apt-get install g++-3.4 gcc-3.4 ( breezy kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 )09:49
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poimenYour kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use09:52
poimen"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware09:52
poimenWorkstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your09:52
poimenkernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl09:52
poimenwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".09:52
poimenthat is the exact error09:52
poimen:(09:52
hussampoimen: do this: sudo apt-get install g++-3.4 gcc-3.4 ( breezy kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 )09:52
hussamthen export CC=gcc-3.409:53
poimenok installing packages now09:53
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hussamwhat was the pref I add to make apt-get use proxy? anybody knows?09:54
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poimensame error :(09:58
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hussamdid you export CC=gcc-3.409:58
poimenyeah09:58
poimen:(09:58
hussamin the same konsole window?09:58
poimenyeah09:58
huaningI have trouble with NXclient09:59
Phantom^^hi guys what programs can i use for dvd playback other than kaffeine i'm getting real jerky playback in kaffeine so i was wondering if there were any others that i could use?09:59
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poimenPhantom^^ you drive has dma enabled?10:00
YHCIR`does anyone know where i can get the kubuntu bacground image, as in this screenshot: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=470&slide=4&title=kubuntu+5.10+official+screenshots10:00
poimennow It worked10:01
poimen:)10:01
poimenI had to oto the export thing in the sam efolde of the vmware install lol10:01
poimenI did cd before 10:01
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RiddellYHCIR`: it's on the default breezy install10:05
YHCIR`i dont have kubuntu or ubuntu, i use mandriva10:06
YHCIR`i just liked the background :)10:06
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WMCoolmonhey, i'm having a problem burning a DVD iso with k3b; it says ":-[ SET STREAMING failed with SK=5h/ASC=26h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error"10:12
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toxixhello10:12
toxixhow can i install any software in kubuntu?10:13
toxixin ubuntu i use synaptic10:13
WMCoolmontry kynaptic10:13
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olwin_kynaptic in hoary , adept in breezy10:13
Originoou can also use synaptic too10:13
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toxixadept fits me 10:14
toxixthx10:14
WMCoolmonhmm, how does one go about upgrading to breezy?10:15
toxixhow can i install ati radeon drivers?Is all the same in ubuntu and kubuntu??10:15
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frank23toxix: ubuntu has gnome and kubuntu kde10:16
frank23!tell toxix about ati10:16
toxixi know10:16
frank23!tell WMCoolmon about upgrade2breezy10:17
toxixhow can i make kubuntu to use better display refresh rate?10:18
toxixthere is no such option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:18
frank23toxix: can you change it in system settings?10:18
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toxixi can use max 85 hz10:19
kinahallo10:19
toxixi know my monitor supports 9910:19
WMCoolmonthanks frank23 10:19
frank23toxix: well you can change the Horizfreq and vertrefresh in xorg.conf 10:19
frank23toxix: if you you know your monitors specs.10:20
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toxixfrank23 i know, but i cant find needen lines in xorg.conf10:20
kinahallo10:21
Originootoxix: which resolution?10:21
toxix1024x76810:21
laser_tkI lost in konqueror that bar, where's Location, Edit..etc. are. What I can do?10:21
frank23toxix: you're right... I don't have those lines anymore either10:22
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frank23toxix: I find 85Hz is plenty though10:22
toxixi know10:22
toxixbut 99Hz i better10:22
toxixanyway ill find it out later10:22
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Originootoxix: which monitor do you use?10:23
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toxixcompaq v71010:23
bhnanabend10:23
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toxixbe back in a sec10:23
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craft4i tried to install the nvidia drivers and get this error msg http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/82 - can someone help me ?10:29
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frank23craft4: do you have an ati card or nvidia?10:34
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frank23craft4: because the error is a conflict between fglrx drivers and nvidia drivers I think10:35
craft4nvidia geforce fx go10:35
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frank23craft4: did you install the fglrx drivers before?  anyways try to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx if you have it10:37
frank23and what are the 158 packages not upgraded?10:37
craft4dont know about the 158 not upgraded packages, but i uninstalled the xorg-driver now10:38
frank23craft4: try to install nvidia now then10:39
craft4the nvidia driver installation works now -  thx :-)10:39
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libbenim trying to understand why gimp and adept are not showing themselves in the menu... and why i dont have some programs installed that should be installed with breezy.10:40
frank23craft4: you had the ati drivers installed ;-)10:40
craft4<-- linux newbie   ;-p10:41
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Firetechis there no way of disabling the kde spell checker, I get disturbed b the red text :/10:48
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Firetechfound it10:53
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`NomadHi..  My logs are full of this message:  [4320786.415000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.10:54
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Mighty96How can I check my motherboars temperatures? It's chip's cooler keeps annoying sound so I'll check how much it's temperature grows if slow it from BIOS or just take it off10:55
`Nomada bug?10:55
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parzolhello10:59
`Nomadhi10:59
parzolanybody from poland??10:59
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`NomadNobody here but us chicken. :)11:01
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cavecraft4: you got hardware acceleration working?11:02
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craft4uhm, dont know? how can i check ? 11:03
caveoh.. i tought i read you did11:04
ubuntutest11:04
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Riddellubuntu: working :)11:05
Arthusthx :)11:05
caveuuh you can test by trying to play Tuxracer or something :P11:05
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caveif it runs smoothly then you got it11:05
fatejudgerdoes anyone know that mac osx screensaver clone?11:05
_mrmarcelhallo11:06
_mrmarcelhrt mich wer11:06
Arthusdamn it breezy really rocks11:06
`NomadArthus: Yup!! :)11:06
craft4cave: i am still stuck - i got a tutorial howto setup but i am not able to edit the xorg.conf (the tutorial say to remove load "dri" from the section "Module"11:06
`Nomadfatejudger: Which one?  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&hs=0as&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=mac+os+x+screensaver+clone&spell=111:07
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cavewhere did you find the tut?11:10
fatejudger`Nomad: I tried googling it11:10
fatejudger`Nomad: I couldn't find it11:11
craft4it is a german forum: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/1611/HOWTO-nVidia-Treiber--Systemoptimierung.html11:11
caveoh.. well that doesnt help me then :311:13
fatejudger`Nomad: it's called Flurry, I had it in Hoary, but it was erased when I formatted and installed Breezy11:13
fatejudger`Nomad: I forget which package it was11:13
fatejudger`Nomad: wait, this is a Windows screensaver11:14
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craft4cave: you said tuxrace - where can i get this ?11:15
_P_hi 11:15
fatejudgercraft4: adept11:16
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craft4ist this a package or something else?11:18
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fatejudgercraft4: yes, it's a package11:19
fatejudgercraft4: search for tux racer11:19
cavejust ype tuxracer on the quickfilter11:19
caveits supposed to be a really fun racer11:19
_P_hi 11:19
fatejudgerfrozen bubble is more fun11:19
_P_someone using openoffice2 on amd64 ?11:19
fatejudgerno11:19
cavei wouldn't know, because i couldnt get it to work on my hardware yet ^^11:20
fatejudgeropenoffice2 doesn't work on amd64s?11:20
_P_fatejudger:  no, after the nex upgrade11:20
_P_*next11:20
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_P_*sorry , last11:20
fatejudgerBreezy?11:20
_P_yes11:20
fatejudgerI don't think they use a very new version of OO211:21
craft4i use synapsis and can't finde tux racer nor frozen bubble, guess i do something wrong11:21
fatejudgersynaptic?11:21
craft4yes synaptic11:22
fatejudgerdo you have universe and multiverse enabled?11:22
caveits in universe/games11:22
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fatejudgerI don't understand why Kubuntu doesn't have the OO2 RC211:24
fatejudgerit's been out for awhile11:24
`NomadDoes Amarok play streams from the net?11:24
craft4hmmm ...  universe / multiverse ? how can i enable that ?11:25
craft4and where ?11:25
`Nomadfatejudger: i found that this version crashed too often on me, I installed version 1 again11:25
fatejudgerrepositories11:25
fatejudgerit's under some menu11:25
fatejudger`Nomad: version 1?11:25
fatejudger`Nomad: that's increadibly dated11:25
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poimensomeone here using vmware on kubuntu?11:26
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fatejudgerwhy would anyone want vmware?11:27
poimenbecause I work for a company tha use windows apps to prepare financial analisis to clients11:27
poimenand I I dont use windows on vmware I will use it in a partition11:27
poimenwhat I dont want to to fo11:28
poimendo*11:28
poimento do*11:28
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xigletwhat repositories should I use to get mplayer with win32 codecs? (breezy)11:28
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raingrovepoimon / why not try whether it works on wine?11:31
craft4fatejudger: thank i found it and installed the racer, i will test it now, when i find the installation path  :-p11:32
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fatejudgercraft4: it goes in the KDE menu11:35
slow-motionn811:35
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craft4wasn't in the KDE menu, but i found it and i have about 1 - 2 fps 11:35
xtacocorexquick question, i'm running hoary and kopete is slow when you click on a person's name to im them any reason why or is it just that way on this distro?11:36
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poimensomeone here using vmware on kubuntu?!!!11:37
antgeli'm trying to browse an nfs share in konqueror. i'm typing nfs://neil/home. i get auth failed, neil auth not supported. i can mount the nfs share fine with the mount command.11:37
antgelpoimen: ask a better question11:37
poimenok I get thi error when i lunch vmware and I have done that step like 5 times11:38
poimenvmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured11:38
poimenfor this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:11:38
poimen/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.11:38
poimenand I have done that like 5 times and it continues to show me that output11:39
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chavopoimen, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6563811:39
chavothe relevant part is 6.11:40
poimenok thankx11:41
poimen:)11:41
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antgellet's start with something easier. is konqueror nfs: browsing even supported?11:42
chavoantgel, not sure about that11:44
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poimenchavo you are from heaven thankx alot vmware opened fast as hell!11:45
antgelthis is a joke. i can see a million settings to do with fucking samba and nothing for nfs11:45
chavopoimen, don't tell everyone my secret :)11:45
poimenlol11:47
antgelfor those of you who care, it is apparently supported using something called lisa11:48
poimenchavo you speek snpanish?11:48
chavoun pocito11:48
poimenohh I see11:48
poimenby your nick I thouhg you were from mexico11:48
chavoantgel, lisa is in the repos11:49
xtacocorexantgel, i had to use lisa when i ran FC4, but was never successful at getting that or samba to work11:49
libben5.10rc was release candidate?11:49
xtacocorexand somehow i screwed up my samba config because now i can't connect to my wife's computer11:49
chavopoimen, no it's a nickname that kind of stuck. but I got it from a bunch of friends who are from Mexico11:50
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jrattner1Is there an automatic update "watcher" similar to the one in gnome for KDE11:52
antgelthe face that lisa has to be installed on the server sucks so hard it's incredible11:52
antgeli had a girlfriend called lisa once...11:53
antgelabout whom i could _not_ say the same11:53
antgeljrattner1: i'd like to know that as well. i understood that adept has it, but i couldn't find it. didn't look too hard though11:53
poimenI see11:55
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