[12:05] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[12:10] <kevogod> wtf
[12:10] <kevogod> What happened to #ubuntu?
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> anyone available at the moment?
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> i justinstalled kubuntu for the first time... i usually use the gnome version...
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> but i must say...  this IRC client is much better than xchat
[12:17] <libben> true true
[12:17] <shadeofgrey> okay heres anotheer question
[12:17] <Corvus> this ? what client ? konversation ?
[12:17] <shadeofgrey> can i install kolnversation on my regular ubuntu system?
[12:17] <Corvus> yes
[12:17] <Corvus> but you will have to install kde libraries
[12:18] <shadeofgrey> i already use k3b as my burning programm of choice, so the libraries are already present
[12:18] <Corvus> ok
[12:18] <libben> then install
[12:19] <shadeofgrey> heres the most important question...  kubuntu put itself as the primary choice in my grub bootloader...  if i decide to dump kubuntu, how do i safely destroy this partition, and REMOVE thew kubuntu entries in GRUB, and make my other ubuntu installation the primary?
[12:19] <Phobos> anyone know how to change the katapult config?
[12:19] <Tm_T> shadeofgrey: I don't understand...
[12:20] <Tm_T> Kubuntu and anohter Ubuntu?!
[12:20] <libben> yes
[12:20] <libben> thats what he says =)
[12:20] <Tm_T> "ok"
[12:20] <shadeofgrey> yeah!  i have regular ubuntu on one drive, and this kubuntu installation on another totally seperate disk
[12:21] <libben> shadeofgrey: u know that there is no diffrence between ubuntu and kubuntu? except the part that kubuntu uses KDE. hence the K in the name
[12:21] <libben> so if u run ubuntu, just install Kde also.
[12:21] <libben> and u can switch between them two
[12:21] <aciDHead> is 5.10 final ?
[12:22] <shadeofgrey> i didnt want to pollute my regular installation with all of KDE's crap.  and now that i see the results im very thankful i had the forsight to do so
[12:22] <shadeofgrey> kde, in my opinion, officially blows rancid aardvark balls
[12:23] <_andrea> i just installed kubuntu...and installed the nvidia driver...everything seems fine. I mounted a CD with mp3's...but when i try to play, i get some errors
[12:23] <Tm_T> _andrea: you propably doesn't have mp3 codecs
[12:24] <_andrea> the gst-engine claims it cannot play....
[12:24] <Tm_T> yup
[12:24] <Tm_T> !mp3
[12:24] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.10 paused
[12:24] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:24] <Tm_T> Glin|Jol: ok, Winamp?
[12:24] <paelscrit> lame, that is
[12:25] <Tm_T> paelscrit: or mad
[12:25] <_marcel> nabend
[12:25] <_andrea> so i use Adept to find mp3 codecs?
[12:25] <_marcel> oh hi guys ;) wrong channel with wrong language
[12:26] <paelscrit> _andrea: it says this in the kubuntu faq on the site: In breezy you can add MP3 support to K3b by installing k3b-mp3.
[12:26] <hydrogen> err
[12:27] <paelscrit> it says to play, but i guess thats burner software
[12:27] <paelscrit> so i dunno
[12:28] <_andrea> thank you :D
[12:29] <_andrea> nice kubuntu till now
[12:29] <_andrea> i like it
[12:32] <BlankC> I cant figure out why my fonts are so different than in 5.04
[12:33] <alberello2005> hi room
[12:33] <alberello2005> :)
[12:36] <libben> why in gods world wont adept jump up in the menu? after installing it
[12:37] <libben> a bit emberassing. when kind of think of all the promotion and testing for it
[12:37] <paelscrit> kubuntu runs super slow on my computer
[12:37] <BlankC> The default font for Konsole seems to be different in 5.04 compared to 5.10 I liked the one from 5.04 how do I get it back.
[12:37] <paelscrit> when i run adept it just shows the timer turning in the taskbar then it dissapears
[12:40] <paelscrit> ugh thats gay
[12:40] <paikan> YaKuaKe Power
[12:41] <St^Anger^19m> !mp3
[12:41] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.10 paused
[12:41] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:43] <RogueJediX> Anyone alive out here? Got a quick question. I wish to resize my /home partition, but the option to do that in qtparted is dimmed. Any idea why?
[12:45] <BlankC> is it mounted right now?
[12:46] <`Nomad> !dvd
[12:46] <RogueJediX> Yes. Should I unmount it?
[12:46] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[12:46] <`Nomad> !hoary-extras
[12:46] <ubotu> hoary-extras is probably see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:46] <Tm_T> eeehehe
[12:46] <Tm_T> that is shut down weeks ago
[12:47] <Tm_T> been
[12:47] <`Nomad> the backports you mean?
[12:47] <`Nomad> What's teh deal with no DVD playability? :(
[12:47] <Tm_T> yes that ubuntu-backports-mirrormax
[12:48] <Tm_T> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/119-You-want-to-bash-someone.html
[12:48] <RogueJediX> I'm gonna try unmounting it, see how that works out then
[12:48] <`Nomad> !backport
[12:48] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:49] <TokenBad> can someone help me get azureus working??
[12:49] <Tm_T> java :(
[12:50] <St^Anger^19m> i need mstcorefonts
[12:50] <TokenBad> I got java
[12:50] <St^Anger^19m> how can i do it in kubuntu?
[12:50] <TokenBad> but it says zip exception error
[12:51] <TokenBad> when start to download
[12:51] <`Nomad> St_Anger:  Do a sudo apt-cache search corefonts to determine teh exact name, then do a sudo apt-get install NAME
[12:51] <RogueJediX> Can't unmount it. Says it's busy. Could I set the computer to boot me to root mode and not mount the /home partition
[12:52] <`Nomad> !sources-list
[12:52] <ubotu> `Nomad: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:52] <`Nomad> !source-list
[12:52] <ubotu> `Nomad: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:52] <`Nomad> lol
[12:52] <`Nomad> people use Kopete to come to IRC?
[12:52] <`Nomad> Is Kopete better than Gaim?
[12:53] <Tm_T> yes
[12:53] <St^Anger^19m> `Nomad: didn't find them
[12:53] <TokenBad> now its giving me a gzip header error
[12:53] <Tm_T> `Nomad: Kopete is far better than gaim
[12:53] <TokenBad> azureus I mean
[12:54] <RogueJediX> sudo qtparted
[12:54] <`Nomad> St_Anger:  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:54] <RogueJediX> Whoops, sorry
[12:54] <RogueJediX> Damned failsafe mode
[12:54] <St^Anger^19m> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[12:54] <`Nomad> what services are back up?  Why change passords?
[12:54] <`Nomad> St_Anger.. Weird, I installed it
[12:54] <TokenBad> so anyone know why azureus would give that error?
[12:55] <`Nomad> !azareus
[12:55] <ubotu> `Nomad: Are you smoking crack?
[12:55] <`Nomad> !azureus
[12:55] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[12:55] <`Nomad> Ahh damn.. Gotta go, the kid wants me to watch a Queen Lattifa movie with her.. Urrrghhhhhh!
[12:56] <`Nomad> IS there an answer to playign DVDs?
[12:58] <St^Anger^19m> !msttcorefonts
[12:58] <ubotu> St^Anger^19m: Wish i knew
[12:58] <TokenBad> I had it working before...with ubuntu
[12:58] <TokenBad> now its not working
[12:58] <TokenBad> since updated to breezy
[01:02] <Rogue_Jedi_X> I just suck at this
[01:03] <Bicchi> is anyone having problems unmounting an ipod using the firewire connection?
[01:05] <TokenBad> well I am still trying to get azureus working on here now
[01:07] <soccerfiend> once I have finished updating I will check to see if azureus is still working
[01:07] <apokryphos> azureus yuck :P
[01:07] <apokryphos> KTorrent!
[01:08] <satafterh> is there a linux command similar to deltree
[01:08] <Rogue_Jedi_X> So, could anyone help me with this resizing the /home partition thingy. Right now it's Puter:Me = 3:0
[01:08] <TokenBad> rm -r
[01:09] <satafterh> thanks
[01:09] <TokenBad> will remove dir and sub dirs
[01:09] <TokenBad> apokryphos, I like azureus cause it lets me edit trackers
[01:10] <apokryphos> to alter what?
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> trying to get access to my loop0 dev after a meltdown
[01:10] <TokenBad> well if I need to
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> urd:/root/tmp/etc> losetup /dev/loop0 /media/sda1/external.ext3
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> /dev/loop0: No such file or directory
[01:10] <TokenBad> some sites the trackers can be slightly of
[01:10] <nalioth> apokryphos: my ktorrent just sits and says 'stalled'
[01:10] <TokenBad> off even
[01:10] <TokenBad> and with little editing can get them to work
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> ok, so i `touch /dev/loop0`
[01:10] <apokryphos> nalioth: you must be doing something wrong :P
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> > losetup /dev/loop0 /media/sda1/external.ext3
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:10] <nalioth> apokryphos: i dont know what
[01:11] <TokenBad> specially for some sites like torrentspy and stuff
[01:11] <apokryphos> TokenBad: sounds cool; ktorrent is, of course, lacking significantly feature-wise 
[01:11] <apokryphos> torrentspy generally always seemed fine n' dandy for me
[01:11] <reagleBRKLN> i have this in my fstab
[01:11] <reagleBRKLN> "/media/sda1/external.ext3  /mnt/external ext3   sync,defaults,user,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0 0 0"
[01:12] <jrattner1> Why when my usb drive in konqueror gives me the folllowing error
[01:12] <jrattner1> The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[01:12] <nalioth> apokryphos: the same torrents that run fine in console, all just 'stalled' in ktorrent
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> jrattner1: its /media/usbdisk
[01:12] <apokryphos> jrattner1: it may not be named that
[01:12] <jrattner1> An error occurred loading media:/sda1
[01:12] <apokryphos> nalioth: odd; what version are you running?
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> jrattner1: known bug
[01:12] <jrattner1> reagleBRKLN, is there a workaround
[01:13] <apokryphos> jrattner1: check in media:/ and see if it's there
[01:13] <jrattner1> Is there a removable device icon on your desktop at all times?
[01:13] <TokenBad> well I removed azureus and tried to reinstall it
[01:13] <reagleBRKLN> jrattner1: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems
[01:13] <TokenBad> and it says its not on any of the breezy sites
[01:13] <nalioth> ktorrent 1.0
[01:13] <jrattner1> reagleBRKLN, usbdisk does not exist, it only says removable device SDA
[01:13] <apokryphos> nalioth: may be worth trying 1.1, if you like
[01:14] <nalioth> apokryphos: from source, i assume
[01:14] <apokryphos> yah
[01:14] <apokryphos> I might package it later if I get bored enough 
[01:14] <apokryphos> though I can't package it for PPC oO
[01:15] <jrattner1> reagleBRKLN, i dont see any usbdisk, it used to work previously in hoary under sda1
[01:15] <TokenBad> nope
[01:15] <TokenBad> azureus will not install from apt-get or adept or anywhere anymore
[01:15] <jrattner1> actually
[01:15] <jrattner1> im lieing
[01:15] <apokryphos> it's no longer in any repos =)
[01:15] <TokenBad> looks like it
[01:15] <jrattner1> if i use the command line usbdisk exists, but not iin konqueror under media
[01:15] <apokryphos> used to be in hoary-extras, but sun-java was taken out, so azureus had failed depends
[01:16] <apokryphos> that's down to HAL not working then
[01:17] <TokenBad> so have to download from site then
[01:17] <TokenBad> that sucks
[01:17] <TokenBad> now to figure out what version to get
[01:17] <jrattner1> apokryphos, so waht should i do
[01:18] <stodge> Anyone else having problems with the settings window:  http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123007267&idx=4
[01:18] <TokenBad> should get azureus gtk, or linux motif, or linux ppc?
[01:18] <apokryphos> jrattner1: sit tight and wait for the fix
[01:18] <apokryphos> TokenBad: gtk
[01:18] <jrattner1> apokryphos, ok
[01:19] <stodge> Damn that URL doesn't seem towork
[01:19] <TokenBad> hmm
[01:19] <TokenBad> whats best way to handle bz2 files
[01:20] <stodge> tar xvfj <filename> to decompress
[01:20] <apokryphos> TokenBad: untar them :P
[01:21] <TokenBad> like stodge put or tar xf?
[01:21] <soccerfiend> bunzip filename also works, though tar is better if it is .tar.bz2
[01:21] <stodge> Or bunzip
[01:21] <stodge> Too slow
[01:21] <soccerfiend> erm bunzip2
[01:22] <stodge> Anyone else having problems with the settings window:  http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123007267&mode=guest    picture 4
[01:22] <TokenBad> bah I still get the same error
[01:23] <TokenBad> even after remove and reinstalling
[01:23] <stodge> REboot time
[01:24] <apokryphos> TokenBad: what error?
[01:24] <TokenBad> bah I am going back to horay or whatever
[01:24] <TokenBad> stupid thing
[01:24] <TokenBad> its getting a gzip header error
[01:24] <TokenBad> when try to download
[01:24] <apokryphos> huhh?
[01:25] <TokenBad> it wasn't doing it before updated to breezy
[01:25] <TokenBad> thats what it says
[01:25] <TokenBad> zipexception
[01:25] <apokryphos> where is the error?
[01:25] <TokenBad> in azureus
[01:25] <TokenBad> when I go to download a file
[01:26] <TokenBad> or should say when start to download a torrent
[01:26] <nimbus> Hi there! Does anybody know how to get flash support in konqueror?
[01:27] <satafterh> you can get flashplayer but not shockwave
[01:27] <nimbus> Does it work like shockwaves?
[01:27] <satafterh> there maid buy same comapler
[01:27] <satafterh> company
[01:28] <nimbus> Good enough for me...
[01:28] <nimbus> I tried following their instructions (from their web), but it didn't work...
[01:29] <penguinboy> Good evening....Geeks, Nerds, and Linux gods!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:29] <nimbus> Evening....
[01:29] <satafterh> flashplayer for mozillia is in apt
[01:29] <penguinboy> i had trouble with my Badger install
[01:29] <nimbus> Will try. But I don't have mozilla...
[01:30] <satafterh> then add mozilla plugin dir  in kon
[01:30] <nimbus> How...?
[01:30] <satafterh> firefox
[01:30] <penguinboy> at 6% of base install I got an error....something to do with an unbootstap?????
[01:30] <satafterh> configure and plugins
[01:31] <nimbus> FF is not standard in Kubuntu, is it?
[01:31] <penguinboy> no
[01:31] <nimbus> Then I don't have that either...
[01:31] <penguinboy> anyone else had Badger install probs?
[01:31] <nimbus> Rats!
[01:32] <satafterh> nimbus setting-configure kno-plugins
[01:32] <nimbus> Nope! Worked fine for me...
[01:32] <penguinboy> shoot
[01:32] <penguinboy> any idea what an unbootstrap error is?
[01:32] <doctorwhite> kubuntu is ubuntu...just not gnome oriented correct?
[01:32] <nimbus> satafterh: ?
[01:33] <penguinboy> yes doc
[01:33] <penguinboy> Ubuntu=Gnome.....Kubuntu=KDE!
[01:34] <doctorwhite> is there one with both...or no?
[01:34] <penguinboy> you can install both doc
[01:34] <doctorwhite> which iso do i look for...?
[01:34] <troth> i just installed kubuntu yesterday and now my sound doesnt work with a startup error message as 
[01:34] <penguinboy> from Ubuntu just apt-get install kde-package
[01:34] <apokryphos> Sgep: systemsettings? It of course does
[01:34] <troth> Sound server informational message:
[01:34] <troth> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[01:34] <troth> device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)
[01:34] <troth> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
[01:35] <troth> ne1 know why? please!
[01:35] <doctorwhite> penguinboy, which do u rec?
[01:35] <Sgep> "This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu"
[01:35] <penguinboy> Kubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!1  Gnome is terrible!
[01:35] <penguinboy> IMHO
[01:35] <doctorwhite> lol
[01:35] <doctorwhite> ok
[01:36] <apokryphos> Sgep: yup; and?
[01:36] <nimbus> satafterh seems to be added allready... It says that "netscape-plugin" under "plugins"
[01:37] <troth> ne1 know my sound problem please?
[01:37] <penguinboy> does anyone of you Linux gods know why upgrade is not an option on the Badger install???????
[01:39] <doctorwhite> r there any other mirrors?
[01:40] <penguinboy> USA, Great Britain, and Switzerland i believe
[01:41] <penguinboy> does anyone of you Linux gods know why upgrade is not an option on the Badger install???????
[01:41] <doctorwhite> penguinboy, the usa dvd one is not fast enough...i get 25
[01:41] <ayah> scuse me... could anyone help me with a ntfs read problem? I'm a newbie btw...
[01:41] <penguinboy> i know doc...i dl'd from the British mirror last night
[01:41] <penguinboy> what's your prob ayah?
[01:42] <troth> ne1 there pls
[01:42] <penguinboy> ayah... r u double bootin'????
[01:43] <Sgep> Umm.... Is it ok to let breezy install with KDE running fully?
[01:43] <ayah> penguin, well I have installed the libntfs5 and ntfsprogs from adept in breezy but still can not access my ntfs partition, what did I miss?
[01:43] <ayah> penguin, yes I'm dual bootin with XP
[01:43] <penguinboy> for shame
[01:43] <penguinboy> LOL
[01:44] <penguinboy> ayah...break the bonds that opppress you my man
[01:44] <penguinboy> ditch the XP
[01:44] <ayah> penguin, take it easy mate, I'm still learning linux here... :-)
[01:44] <penguinboy> lol
[01:44] <penguinboy> lol
[01:44] <ayah> penguin, still trying to not be too dependent on the XP
[01:45] <penguinboy> i broke my daily XP habit by deleting it
[01:45] <penguinboy> works liek a charm
[01:45] <Sgep> But there are some games I really should revisit...
[01:45] <penguinboy> like a security blanket????
[01:46] <stodge> I wish adept would prompt me to confirm the updates before it applies them. I don't know what it's going to do
[01:46] <ayah> penguin, well that's why I installed breezy, the thing is, I have to make sure everything that I need works in linux first, since I have never linux in any way before, I'm a virgin here...
[01:46] <Sgep> ayah: What are you using the computer for?
[01:46] <penguinboy> lol
[01:46] <ayah> penguin, so now I am trying to make sure that I can interchange files between the two OS first...
[01:46] <troth> me too thats why i need help with the fin ishing touches
[01:47] <Sgep> ayah, do you have a vfat partition?
[01:47] <ayah> sgep, well mainly doing some work at home, you know spreadsheet and word processing, maybe a bit of presentation, I understand that I can use open office for that, so no prob there... but I also need to make sure that all my files can be moved to linux first...
[01:47] <stodge> Can Kubuntu read NTFS partitions?
[01:48] <Sgep> Yes, but it can't write.
[01:48] <penguinboy> si
[01:48] <Sgep> (AFAIK)
[01:48] <stodge> THat's fine - I need to retrieve some files
[01:48] <stodge> Is there a simple package to install?
[01:48] <Sgep> Do you know the device it's on?
[01:48] <stodge> I think so
[01:48] <penguinboy> stodge google TUX Magazine....the October issue talks about sharing files betweenthe 2 oss
[01:49] <stodge> Ok
[01:49] <stodge> I've done it on Fedora before but they had an RPM that was downloadable
[01:49] <penguinboy> RPMs...blech!
[01:49] <ayah> sgep, no i don't... teh prob is, my disk is all used up... and i need to copy my files from the ntfs to the ext 3 partition... but apparently I can't read my ntfs from breezy.. i just did a fresh install and also i have installed the libntfs5 and ntfsprogs from adept but still wont read it...
[01:50] <Sgep> Can you find it?
[01:50] <stodge> Did you reboot after installing those? It may load kernel modules
[01:50] <penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas!
[01:50] <jrattner1> is there an ubuntu Update manager simlilar to the ubuntu one in gnome
[01:51] <apokryphos> there is in breezy
[01:51] <apokryphos> but it doesn't have a tray-icon, it seems
[01:52] <t2> I need some help
[01:52] <ayah> yes i did reboot, i mean breezy recognized the partition fine, but it just wont access it, it has given me the message taht says: could net enter folder /media/hda1
[01:52] <Sgep> hi t2 
[01:52] <t2> hi
[01:52] <inc|freaky> what is the sudo for kde called?
[01:52] <Sgep> kdesu
[01:52] <t2> I created a new parttition to back up some files before I squash most of my hd to put breezy on ...
[01:53] <inc|freaky> ah, awkay thx ^^
[01:53] <t2> and I can only write to it as root
[01:53] <t2> I need to copy a directory to it
[01:53] <Sgep> You can read from it as anyone?
[01:53] <t2> yes
[01:54] <t2> well ... I think so   ... theres nothing there to read, so I can't say for sure
[01:54] <stodge> Add an option in fstab to let users access it
[01:54] <Sgep> Hi jsubl2 
[01:54] <jsubl2> howdy..
[01:55] <t2> I just did the options as defaults ... what do I do to make it full access?
[01:55] <Sgep> Post the /etc/fstab
[01:55] <t2> /dev/hdb6	/vm		reiserfs	defaults	0	0
[01:56] <t2> ^^ the relevant line
[01:56] <Sgep> ReiserFS?
[01:56] <t2> is that a problem?
[01:56] <jsubl2> is vmreiserfs correct
[01:56] <t2> yes
[01:56] <os2mac> Hi all,,, I have a question about the password screen.
[01:56] <ayah> brb
[01:56] <os2mac> how do I change it?
[01:57] <jsubl2> me neither
[01:57] <t2> not sure it matters, really
[01:57] <os2mac> I did apt-get on gnome so I would have both GUI's but when it installed it overwrote the Kubuntu passwd screen.
[01:57] <os2mac> i would like to get it back.
[01:57] <t2> couldn't I change ownership of the directory with chown ?
[01:58] <jsubl2> os2mac: sudo nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:58] <t2> I was planning to change everything to reiser once I load Breezy, so I made this partition by resizing /home
[01:59] <jsubl2> it is still reiser 3 right
[01:59] <t2> and made it reiserfs so I can keep the data there once I blow up / and /home
[01:59] <t2> as far as i know
[01:59] <os2mac> and what do I change it to?
[01:59] <jsubl2> what do you want
[01:59] <os2mac> the original KDE passwd screen.
[02:00] <os2mac> rather than the GNOME Ubuntu screen
[02:00] <jsubl2> change it to /usr/bin/kdm
[02:00] <primoturbo> Hey guys I just installed kubuntu from cd
[02:01] <apokryphos> congrats
[02:01] <primoturbo> does kubuntu use xorg.conf?
[02:01] <apokryphos> yes
[02:01] <primoturbo> alright so I can just edit it then
[02:01] <primoturbo> Does KDE prevent u from copy and pasting passwords?
[02:01] <t2> maybe it would be easier just to copy the directory using a sudo command ....
[02:01] <t2> ???
[02:02] <apokryphos> primoturbo: you're gonna have to be a lot more specific
[02:02] <os2mac> BRB
[02:02] <primoturbo> sorry, well I signed up for a forum and it sent me a password in mail
[02:02] <t2> sudo cp /home/user/vmware /vm    didn't work
[02:02] <primoturbo> when I tried to login on a phpbb forum
[02:02] <primoturbo> I couldn't paste the password
[02:03] <primoturbo> also how do I switch the time to AM/PM?
[02:03] <t2> is there something special you have to do to cp an entire directory?
[02:03] <primoturbo> and sudo command is still used right?
[02:03] <primoturbo> what can I use instead of gedit
[02:03] <nalioth> primoturbo: in kde gui apps, use 'kdesu'
[02:03] <nalioth> primoturbo: in the terminal for cli apps, sudo is ok
[02:04] <jsubl2> t2 cp -rf source target
[02:04] <t2> :)  ty
[02:04] <primoturbo> what can I use instead of gedit?
[02:05] <os2mac> that did it thank you
[02:05] <jsubl2> kate is gui or nano is console
[02:05] <os2mac> could I have vi'd that file?
[02:05] <jsubl2> old nix whores like me use vi
[02:05] <t2> thanks jsubl2   it worked  :)
[02:05] <jsubl2> the default thing yest
[02:06] <t2> now ... off to install Breezy  :)
[02:06] <jsubl2> t2: :)
[02:06] <jsubl2> yep i am gonna blow in the 64 bit version in a minute
[02:06] <os2mac> jsubl2
[02:06] <jsubl2> :)
[02:06] <os2mac> do you have time to talk about wireless config?
[02:06] <jsubl2> yeah i do some solaris at work.. i support  3 os'
[02:07] <os2mac> I do just one, Trusted Solaris 8
[02:07] <primoturbo> when I try to sudo kate a file it gives me an error
[02:07] <primoturbo> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-primoturbo" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[02:07] <primoturbo> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[02:07] <jsubl2> os2mac: i hear trusted in end of line
[02:07] <jsubl2> in/is
[02:07] <os2mac> as in at the end of the line?
[02:07] <os2mac> or headed that way?
[02:08] <os2mac> or that I have a dead end job....
[02:08] <jsubl2> no.. i have heard no more releases..
[02:08] <os2mac> they will trust me........
[02:08] <jsubl2> os2mac: seems like i read that on osnews
[02:08] <os2mac> if there is someone willing to pay for the upgrade (and there is) they will make a new version.
[02:09] <jsubl2> yeah lol more than likely
[02:09] <os2mac> they have come out and told us that they are ending support. 
[02:09] <jsubl2> really
[02:09] <jsubl2> hard  to believe they will turn down money
[02:09] <jsubl2> sun ain't doin that well
[02:09] <os2mac> but I work for a pretty big company and I think they will take what we are offering to certify the new version of Solaris.
[02:10] <os2mac> can you answer a wireless config question for me?
[02:10] <jsubl2> solaris 11 will be interesting i hope
[02:10] <jsubl2> prolly not.. tried the wiki
[02:10] <jsubl2> i am desktop wired
[02:12] <os2mac> ahh... I am running on a wireless laptop
[02:13] <jsubl2> is it all workin
[02:13] <TokenBad> god stupid azureus...
[02:14] <TokenBad> what is wrong with this thing
[02:14] <jsubl2> os2mac: i would kinda like to have a laptop again.. but desktops are so damn fast
[02:14] <reagleBRKLN> i'm sure this is a faq now, but are there reps so i can listen to mp3s in juk, use mplayer, kplayer, kaffeine, etc
[02:14] <reagleBRKLN> kubuntu 5.10 is much less fun without this stuff ;)
[02:15] <apokryphos> all of those, yes
[02:15] <jsubl2> reagleBRKLN: sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg i think
[02:15] <apokryphos> gstreamer0.8-mad, too
[02:15] <jbeasley> Is there a fix for 5.04 and 5.10 not saving the default gateway?
[02:15] <apokryphos> for videos etc you'll want w32codecs
[02:15] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: i use arts
[02:15] <reagleBRKLN> does gstream conflict with arts?
[02:15] <apokryphos> obv. not, no
[02:16] <apokryphos> your players (i.e. kaffeine) will use it, too
[02:16] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: you tried it with juk?
[02:17] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: if you get the appropriate packs, mp3s will work with arts too
[02:17] <reagleBRKLN> installed liblame0 and akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad, juk not working...?
[02:17] <primoturbo> How can I move the trash to the desktop?
[02:17] <primoturbo> The trash bin to the desktop is what I want
[02:18] <reagleBRKLN> > g hidden Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:18] <reagleBRKLN> Hidden=false
[02:18] <reagleBRKLN> primoturbo: change to true
[02:18] <primoturbo> from terminal correct?
[02:18] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: have you restarted arts?
[02:19] <apokryphos> artsd, that is
[02:19] <primoturbo> reagleBRKLN: Hmm where do I do the g hidden Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:19] <primoturbo> says g is not a command in terminal
[02:20] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos, ok restart did it
[02:20] <apokryphos> primoturbo: edit that file
[02:20] <reagleBRKLN> g is short for grep
[02:20] <apokryphos> primoturbo: kate ~/Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:20] <reagleBRKLN> darn, muscbrainz in juk still don't work
[02:20] <apokryphos> libtunepimp doesn't have mp3 support unfortunately
[02:20] <apokryphos> pretty much the only case where I just use the debian package
[02:21] <primoturbo> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[02:21] <primoturbo> I can't open kate for some reason
[02:21] <apokryphos> primoturbo: are you in a root shell or something?
[02:21] <primoturbo> no
[02:21] <primoturbo> I'm in KDE
[02:21] <apokryphos> odd
[02:21] <apokryphos> use kwrite for now
[02:22] <apokryphos> restart your kde maybe later.. if the problem persists, compile a bug-report
[02:22] <primoturbo> okay
[02:22] <Sgep> Is it ok to leave KDE running during the install of Breezy?
[02:22] <primoturbo> where is kwrite?
[02:22] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libtunepimp2
[02:23] <apokryphos> Sgep: sure, but you should restart after it's finished
[02:23] <Sgep> Restart KDE, or the comp?
[02:23] <apokryphos> primoturbo: alt+f2 -> kwrite ~/Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:23] <apokryphos> Sgep: for a breezy upgrade: the comp
[02:23] <Sgep> ty
[02:24] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: amarok* amarok-gstreamer* juk* kdemultimedia* kubuntu-desktop* dependent on libtunepimp2c2
[02:24] <reagleBRKLN> can't install the stable deb
[02:25] <apokryphos> ah, silly me
[02:25] <apokryphos> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libtunepimp2c2
[02:26] <primoturbo> when I edit it to false I get some odd looking icon
[02:26] <primoturbo> on my desktop 
[02:27] <primoturbo> named trash.desktop~
[02:27] <primoturbo> when I try to open it I get a open with window
[02:27] <Sgep> Why is it that the download is faster when I have it up on my screen?
[02:27] <reagleBRKLN> foo~ are backup files created by some editors
[02:27] <os2mac> so far so good....
[02:27] <os2mac> I have corrected a couple of the idiosyncracies that I had problems with
[02:27] <stodge> What the heck is the package for playing wmv videos?
[02:28] <reagleBRKLN> primoturbo: u can delete it if you stillhave trash.desktop
[02:28] <primoturbo> okay
[02:28] <primoturbo> but how do I get the trash on the desktop then?
[02:28] <TokenBad> ok wtf is up with azureus on breezy
[02:28] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: good try, but still get error connecting to musicbrainz in juk
[02:29] <reagleBRKLN> log out of kde desktop, on reentry should be there
[02:29] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: works fine here
[02:29] <primoturbo> is kubuntu really buggy?
[02:30] <primoturbo> Going to restart see if that helps :O
[02:30] <primoturbo> brb
[02:30] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: restarted juk, right?
[02:31] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: yep, and i'm envious, had this bug forever https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8923
[02:32] <apokryphos> weird
[02:32] <apokryphos> I'd been following http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15708 too
[02:33] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: does it work for you in amaroK?
[02:33] <Sgep> Yay! approx 7 min
[02:34] <t2> I just realized I AM going to need to know how to mount my new reiser partition and have full user access even after I install Breezy ...
[02:34] <t2> so does anyone know the option I need in fstab for that?
[02:35] <reagleBRKLN> don't use amarok
[02:35] <apokryphos> well, try using it now to see if it works
[02:35] <stodge> Anyone know what package this file is in?     X11/Xlib.h
[02:36] <apokryphos> stodge: you want the X includes
[02:37] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: in amarok, "The track was not found in the MusicBrainz database."
[02:38] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: for every single one you try?
[02:38] <Sgep> Is KOffice 1.4.2 in Breezy?
[02:38] <apokryphos> Sgep: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <apokryphos> Sgep: or, from here: /msg ubotu info koffice
[02:39] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: yep
[02:39] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: you *definitely* installed the appropriate libtunepimp2c2 deb?
[02:39] <Sgep> If 1.4.2 has important fixes, why does Breezy use 1.4.1?
[02:40] <apokryphos> it was out too late for it to get in for breezy, most likely
[02:40] <t2> what option do I need for reiserfs to give users full access to the mounted partition???
[02:40] <stodge> apokryphos: DO you know hte package name?
[02:40] <apokryphos> Sgep: er, 1.4.2 came out on Thursday?
[02:40] <Sgep> But KDE 3.4.3 came out very shortly before Breezy (IIUC)
[02:41] <apokryphos> stodge: libx11-dev
[02:41] <apokryphos> Sgep: but packagers had it a couple of weeks before that at least
[02:41] <stodge> ah thanks
[02:42] <Sgep> Yay! Done downloading
[02:44] <Sgep> Some strange sounds are coming from my CD drive
[02:45] <soccerfiend> t2: can you be more specific
[02:46] <reagleBRKLN> *** 0.3.0-9 0
[02:46] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: 
[02:49] <t2> I need to have full user access (read & Write) to a reiserfs partition I created ... I am mounting it in fstab, but only root has write access as it is (defaults)
[02:49] <t2> would noattrs do it?
[02:50] <Comte0> t2: mount -o remount,rw ?
[02:50] <soccerfiend> chmod
[02:50] <soccerfiend> chmod /path/to/mount/point
[02:50] <soccerfiend> chmod 0777 -R /path/to/mount/point
[02:51] <troth> i have a sound problem, when my system boots it gives this error, http://pastebin.ca/25527 help if you can pls
[02:51] <t2> would that be permanent?
[02:51] <soccerfiend> yes
[02:52] <soccerfiend> troth: lsmod |grep snd
[02:52] <t2> I'm thinking I'd like to change the option in fstab so it always mounts with full access
[02:52] <soccerfiend> troth: what is the output
[02:52] <Comte0> t2: if root can write on it, then the fstab is good
[02:52] <omar> Hello
[02:53] <omar> I am using kubuntu i need msn
[02:53] <Sgep> If I wished to look into an iso file without mounting or burning it, how would I do that?
[02:53] <omar> and c++ compiler >s
[02:53] <Hobbsee> omar: kopete, or gaim, or amsn
[02:53] <Hobbsee> kopete should already be on there
[02:53] <t2> ? so I can't make it so users can write, too (in fstab)?
[02:54] <omar> just somthink msn
[02:54] <soccerfiend> um, what you are talking about is file permissions
[02:54] <omar> kopete dont vork
[02:54] <Hobbsee> omar: all of them do msn
[02:54] <Hobbsee> then use gaim
[02:54] <Hobbsee> or amsn
[02:54] <soccerfiend> I am using kopete right now
[02:54] <crimsun> kopete works for me
[02:54] <crimsun> (msn-wise)
[02:54] <omar> messenger.hotmail.com this came allways
[02:54] <soccerfiend> (for msn, not for irc)
[02:54] <omar> I cant log mee in
[02:55] <t2> ok ...  then I'll go with the chmod thing  ...  thanks
[02:55] <soccerfiend> t2: unless you are talking about extended acls, chmod is the tool that you need
[02:55] <Sgep>  * Stopping deferred execution scheduler...                                                                        [fail] 
[02:56] <Hobbsee> kopete also works for me, with msn
[02:56] <t2> <--no idea what that means
[02:56] <omar> That sucks for me i am from Iceland not good in english i have a little einglish book <D
[02:57] <soccerfiend> Sgep: what do you mean by looking into an iso?
[02:57] <Sgep> Being able to see the files on it without requiring root access or burning it
[02:58] <Comte0> Sgep: there's an user option to mount for that
[02:58] <t2> I'll stick with the chmod ... I wrote it down for use after I install breezy
[02:58] <t2> which I'm going to do right now  :)
[02:58] <Sgep> Where?
[02:58] <t2> c ya
[02:58] <troth> soccerfiend: sorry, ok i typed that in which number do you want?
[02:58] <tambooki> Hi all; I did a search for this on the forums, but "sudo hang" don't give particularly good results. Here's my problem:
[02:59] <tambooki> sudo seems to be messed up; I can sudo fine one or two times, but then it will just hang.
[02:59] <tambooki> Not the command I'm invoking; sudo itself.
[02:59] <tambooki> Anybody else seen something like this?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> tambooki: try kdesu instead of sudo
[03:00] <Hobbsee> see if that hangs as well
[03:00] <soccerfiend> troth: the lsmod |grep snd
[03:00] <soccerfiend> troth: the lsmod |grep snd?
[03:01] <troth> yes, here ill pastewbin the whole thing
[03:01] <tambooki> Yeah; hangs there too...
[03:02] <troth> soccerfiend: http://pastebin.ca/25529
[03:03] <soccerfiend> troth: ok that looks good
[03:03] <troth> k
[03:03] <soccerfiend> troth: try running alsamixer from the command line, does it show the sound device at the top?
[03:03] <omar> This amsn look grates thank uou >D
[03:03] <starscalling> hey
[03:04] <starscalling> any clue on making mkv's work?
[03:06] <troth> soccerfiend: yes , but it says usb device?!?! mine is biult into the mother board, i can paste this to if youd like
[03:06] <soccerfiend> troth: what kind of system is this?
[03:06] <troth> intelP3 733mhz w/kubuntu
[03:07] <omar> Where can i cahnge the language on the keyborf in kubuntu ???
[03:07] <soccerfiend> ok, on the volume icon in your task tray, click the mixer option
[03:07] <troth> k opened
[03:08] <inc|freaky> linux had echd einiges draufgelegt seitdem ich es vor 1 1/2 jahren das letzte mal draufhatte ;D
[03:08] <omar> Where can i cahnge the language on the keyborf in kubuntu ???
[03:08] <soccerfiend> K -> system settings -> Region & Accesability -> Country and region
[03:08] <omar> keybord**
[03:08] <troth> ok i just switched it over, that  might ve been it!!
[03:09] <soccerfiend> troth: do an ls -la /dev/snd/
[03:09] <soccerfiend> troth: Do you have any funky USB devices?
[03:10] <tambooki> Nobody has any ideas on the sudo issue :| ? 
[03:10] <starscalling> t minus a bit for debian install....
[03:10] <soccerfiend> ungh, debian
[03:10] <soccerfiend> my favorite for headless boxes
[03:10] <soccerfiend> but not for my laptop
[03:10] <troth> soccerfiend: just webcam, and mouse, not an aquarium or lava lamp, or something
[03:11] <soccerfiend> troth: are you running breezy?
[03:12] <troth> no
[03:12] <soccerfiend> go to the system settings (or whatever it was called), and then sound and multimedia
[03:12] <Sebastian> how do i upgrade kubuntu from konsole?
[03:13] <Hobbsee> !update
[03:13] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Wish i knew
[03:13] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[03:13] <Hobbsee> Sebastian: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:13] <soccerfiend> troth: also what do you have when you run `ls -la /dev/snd`
[03:14] <Sebastian> ok
[03:14] <Sebastian> i will type that on konsole
[03:14] <Sebastian> i am on xp right now
[03:14] <Sebastian> i iwll email this ot myself and when i boot on kubuntu
[03:14] <Hobbsee> ah, you need to be in kubuntu to do it
[03:14] <Sebastian> yes
[03:14] <Sebastian> i know that
[03:14] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:15] <troth> soccerfiend: http://pastebin.ca/25530 the results
[03:15] <Sebastian> Hobbsee: Tapadh leat
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix this is the offical reply that rms sended me:
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Da: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Oggetto: Re: gpl version 3
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Data: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:24:16 -0400
[03:16] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix I think that http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6222 is the location
[03:16] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix of the interview.
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Sebastian: what?
[03:16] <soccerfiend> troth: run fuser /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
[03:16] <soccerfiend> troth: and do that for all the devices
[03:17] <soccerfiend> troth: all the devices that start with pcm
[03:17] <apokryphos> argh, now that is annoying
[03:17] <Sebastian> Hobbsee: Thank thee in Gidhlig/Scottish
[03:17] <troth> k
[03:17] <Hobbsee> an..right
[03:17] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:17] <Hobbsee> i dont speak Scottish lol
[03:20] <troth> soccerfiend:it keeps saying no such file or directory
[03:20] <omar> Hey i am trying to log me in the control panel i have one password but i can't log me in >S
[03:21] <Hobbsee> it's not working with the password created during the installation?
[03:21] <soccerfiend> oops, I gave you my device
[03:21] <omar> I am using the password i create in installation
[03:22] <soccerfiend> troth: fuser /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
[03:23] <troth> it did nor said nothing
[03:24] <crimsun> troth: what's the issue?
[03:24] <soccerfiend> troth: did you try it with all the pcm devices?
[03:24] <soccerfiend> troth: is sound not working, or was it just that error at startup
[03:24] <troth> i have a sound problem, when my system boots it gives this error, http://pastebin.ca/25527 help if you can pls
[03:24] <stodge> Anyone mounted an ntfs drive?
[03:25] <troth> not working, no startup noise, no audio cds nothing
[03:25] <crimsun> troth: that's because your primary sound device currently only supports capture
[03:25] <stodge> ls: /media/windows/: Permission denied
[03:25] <omar> How can i take print screen }
[03:25] <omar> >>
[03:25] <omar> ??*
[03:25] <crimsun> stodge: did you mount the NTFS partition with umask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[03:26] <crimsun> stodge: (you really only need umask=022)
[03:26] <stodge> No - just found the FAQ for it :)
[03:26] <troth> crimson:do you know how to fix?
[03:26] <crimsun> troth: cat /proc/asound/devices
[03:26] <Mez> hmm
[03:26] <Mez> anyone know how to do "alt" codes in kubuntu?
[03:26] <crimsun> troth: sorry, cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:27] <troth> ok ive been here
[03:27] <crimsun> troth: I need the output
[03:28] <troth> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/25531
[03:28] <soccerfiend> Mez: sorry, I just use kcharselect when I need an od character
[03:28] <crimsun> troth: which sound device do you want to use by default?
[03:28] <Sgep> Mez: Activate the Compose key
[03:29] <Sgep> Then Compose ' e would give 
[03:29] <soccerfiend> troth: try unplugging the web cam
[03:29] <troth> crimsun: well i dont have a usb sound card so id would say the intel
[03:29] <stodge> Cool - kmail imported all my old thunderbird emails from ntfs :)
[03:29] <omar> Hey i need help with languge for my keybord
[03:29] <Mez> sh: kcharselect: command not found
[03:29] <troth> k ill try that
[03:29] <crimsun> troth: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[03:29] <troth> it does have a mic....
[03:29] <Mez> no, I want the alt+0160 fake space thing
[03:29] <crimsun> troth: of course you have a usb sound device
[03:30] <omar> How can i tak a print screan
[03:30] <crimsun> the Web cam is a sound device
[03:30] <soccerfiend> omar: system settings -> region & accessibility
[03:30] <Sgep> Likethis?
[03:30] <troth> i see...
[03:30] <soccerfiend> omar:then country/region and lang
[03:30] <troth> should i unplug or run that command first?
[03:30] <crimsun> troth: run that command first
[03:30] <omar> soccerfiend i found it thank you
[03:30] <jrattner1> Is there an ubuntu update manager lfor KDE
[03:30] <troth> k
[03:30] <crimsun> troth: no need to unplug
[03:30] <omar> but how can i take a prin screan
[03:30] <omar> screen**
[03:31] <crimsun> troth: then run this: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[03:31] <omar> I kill the main chat :D
[03:31] <troth> well too late for that
[03:31] <crimsun> troth: no big deal, but you need to run that command I just gave you.
[03:31] <troth> k
[03:32] <crimsun> (both the echo and the invoke-rc.d)
[03:32] <troth> should i unplug first?
[03:32] <jrattner1> Is there an ubuntu update manager lfor KDE?
[03:32] <stodge> What happened to /ld.so.conf?
[03:32] <crimsun> troth: you don't need to unplug
[03:32] <stodge> What happened to ld.so.conf?
[03:32] <troth> k
[03:32] <stodge> Where is it?
[03:32] <soccerfiend> jrattner: kynaptic as well as adept
[03:32] <crimsun> stodge: why is it necessary?
[03:32] <stodge> I need to add library paths for compilation
[03:33] <crimsun> stodge: then you pass them to configure
[03:33] <troth> crimsun: k uploaded drivers and some stuff
[03:33] <crimsun> troth: now log out of and back into KDE
[03:33] <troth> k brb
[03:34] <omar> where can i get somethink like Outlook Express on linux ?
[03:35] <_rob> omar - thunderbird (by mozilla), kmail (by kde), evolution (by gnome) take your pick
[03:35] <_rob> how do i go about upgrading my hoary install to breezy? is it just a matter of updating my /etc/apt/sources or is there more to it?
[03:36] <soccerfiend> you should be able to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:36] <soccerfiend> I just finished doing this on my home box
[03:36] <_rob> soccerfiend: what repo's do you have in your apt sources list?
[03:36] <soccerfiend> lots
[03:36] <stodge> configure? Bah I feel lost without ld.so.conf! :)
[03:39] <soccerfiend> _rob: I had the hoary backports, clamav, and a debian source
[03:39] <_rob> what ones specific to breezy do i need?
[03:40] <soccerfiend> as well as universe multiverse restricted 
[03:41] <troth> crimsun: it WORKS!!! cant thank you enough
[03:42] <troth> soccerfiend: you too, thanks a million man!
[03:42] <soccerfiend> np, I should have picked up on the web cam earlier
[03:42] <_rob> soccerfiend: this may sound a bit pedantic.. but would you beable to msg me the breezy specific lines you have please?
[03:42] <troth> thats exactly what it was, it was reading my web cam as output rather than input
[03:43] <soccerfiend> well they are both sound devices, input/output doesn't really matter
[03:43] <_rob> im an old time linux, freebsd user.. but im new to debian and its apt system
[03:43] <soccerfiend> no worries rob, I have been using debian for a while... are you going to be around for a while?
[03:43] <_rob> yeo
[03:43] <soccerfiend> I just rebooted my home router and it is not up
[03:43] <_rob> yep.. 
[03:44] <soccerfiend> so it will take ~20 minutes to drive there
[03:44] <_rob> im sitting here trying to learn some QT, updating my system is something to distract me (and probably get in the way) of learning
[03:44] <_rob> oh.. damn i hate that
[03:44] <omar> omar@localhost:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird
[03:44] <omar> ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:44] <_rob> hahah
[03:44] <omar> S:
[03:44] <_rob> the perils of remote admin
[03:44] <omar> :S
[03:44] <crimsun> troth: np
[03:45] <omar> Help
[03:45] <soccerfiend> my laptop was a breezy install, if you are interested in that sources.list it can be found at: http://pastebin.ca/25532
[03:46] <omar> omar@localhost:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird
[03:46] <omar> ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:46] <omar> help
[03:47] <soccerfiend> _rob: I wouldn't go from hoary to the config I have for my laptop
[03:47] <soccerfiend> brb anyway
[03:49] <arkanjo> Hi ! I'm from brazil and dont speak english very well :( ..... but I testing the Easy Kubuntu, and my sources.list has a fail entry .. :( and original I dont have backup bcause Easy Kubuntu rewrite the backup each time is started ..   anybody, send me a good sources.list to Kubuntu 5.10 ???
[03:50] <jsubl2> !sources
[03:50] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:52] <arkanjo> Err http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages  404 Not Found
[03:52] <arkanjo> > Err http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages  404 Not Found
[03:52] <arkanjo> and a Kubuntu entry ?? here I has this error " 
[03:53] <penguinboy> Good evening, Geeks, Nerds, and Linux gods!!!
[03:54] <jsubl2> hello.. i know i fit one of those... not sure which
[03:54] <penguinboy> lol
[03:55] <penguinboy> I just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[03:56] <penguinboy> any at all?
[03:57] <penguinboy> tap...tap...is this thing on?
[04:02] <penguinboy> welcoem stonefree
[04:02] <penguinboy> welcoem jbeasley 
[04:03] <penguinboy> I just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[04:04] <penguinboy> wb doc
[04:05] <doctorwhite> thnxs
[04:05] <doctorwhite> gonna give kubuntu a try soon
[04:05] <penguinboy> kewl
[04:06] <penguinboy> what distro are you coming from?
[04:07] <doctorwhite> iv used fedora/rh for 7 yrs, suse/opensuse fer 4 months, freebsd here and there
[04:08] <doctorwhite> hate suse//opensuse
[04:08] <penguinboy> i hear freebsd is a totally different learning curve
[04:08] <doctorwhite> not that bad
[04:09] <penguinboy> hey ubuntu a question please
[04:09] <penguinboy> I just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[04:11] <jrattner1> is there an update watcher similar to the one in ubuntu for kubuntu
[04:12] <HillTop> I'm using kubuntu pr live CD. It displays my two USB jump drives and moounts them fine BUT the 5.10 final CD does not. Why? Thanks.
[04:12] <penguinboy> jrattner1: the only difference is Gnopme and KDE
[04:13] <jrattner1> penguinboy, you know how gnome has the update manager in the top right
[04:13] <jrattner1> is there one for kde
[04:13] <penguinboy> yes
[04:13] <HillTop> Q for anyone, seems like a step back to not show USB drives in final version of kubuntu live.
[04:13] <troy> gday folks
[04:14] <jrattner1> penguinboy, whats it called
[04:14] <jrattner1> HillTop, im having that same problem as you
[04:14] <jrattner1> HillTop, but in kubuntu not live
[04:15] <jrattner1> atleast KDE bluetooth works nicely
[04:15] <jrattner1> : )
[04:15] <Lord_Athur> hi
[04:15] <HillTop> oo, jrattner1, not good. Now you may be able to fix it with a change in /etc/fstab to be what the pr version is.
[04:15] <jrattner1> penguinboy, what is the applet called
[04:15] <penguinboy> i think i am gonna reinstall the Hedgehog!!!
[04:15] <jrattner1> HillTop, ??/
[04:15] <jrattner1> HillTop, whats the revision
[04:15] <jsubl2> penguinboy: check the wiki there is some laptop info there
[04:16] <penguinboy> what is the addy
[04:16] <jsubl2> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <penguinboy> gracios
[04:16] <Lord_Athur> Where can I get a very good sources list? the default list of kubuntu is terrible
[04:16] <Kaiser_sleeps> anyone know some good places to go to get games that run under [k] ubuntu?
[04:16] <HillTop> jrattner1, I didn't note what the current one has, the pr version has only three lines. I think the first on eis important, but I don't understand it.
[04:16] <Kaiser_sleeps> Lord_Athur: define 'good'
[04:17] <penguinboy> Lord_Arthur there is a good sources.list at http://www.irclikelife.com/othershit/
[04:17] <Sgep> I think my system is in an unstable state
[04:17] <HillTop> jrattner1, hte first line is:/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> !games
[04:17] <ubotu> [games]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> kalenedrael, I need a add to my source list a  web page for install wine with apt-get
[04:18] <Sgep> ...
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell lucychili about games
[04:18] <jrattner1> HillTop, if i change that it will work??
[04:18] <Sgep> I have some sort of error, and I'm unable to access any webpages
[04:19] <Sgep> May I paste the thing in #flood?
[04:19] <Lord_Athur> kalenedrael, what should I do?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> Hmm?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> That's odd, do you know me or something?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> You just started randomly asking me questions. :P
[04:20] <penguinboy> lol
[04:20] <HillTop> jrattner1, what do you see now?  We need help from a guru here on this. 
[04:20] <penguinboy> lol
[04:20] <kalenedrael> You edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, by the way.
[04:20] <Sgep> Some help?
[04:20] <penguinboy> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <Lord_Athur> :D kalenedrael I'm sorry I made a mistake I've tried of ask to Kamping_Kaiser 
[04:21] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:21] <penguinboy> KK is probably asleep!!!
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Lord_Athur
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, back now penguinboy :)
[04:22] <Sgep> Someone please help me
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> .P
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Lord_Athur: you need universe to have wine
[04:22] <penguinboy> KK i need your help when you are free
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> ok
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. i should be eating lunch, but im here for a bit pb
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> I'm searching the universe web pages for add
[04:23] <Lord_Athur> .D
[04:23] <HillTop> jrattner1, I have a vfat hard disk with data, but can't figure how to mount it. :/
[04:23] <penguinboy> i know i should rtfm....but I am lazy....and like to pick the brains of the Linux gods.....my wife does not work in Badger but worked just fine in Hedgehog...what should I do?
[04:24] <penguinboy> wife??????
[04:24] <penguinboy> lol
[04:24] <penguinboy> wifi
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lmao
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> your wife has a bug ;)
[04:24] <penguinboy> lol
[04:25] <penguinboy> KK what should I do?
[04:25] <penguinboy> and don;t say rtfm
[04:25] <penguinboy> puleese
[04:25] <thoreauputic> penguinboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure wife  ;-)
[04:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> penguinboy: do you use the windows driver ?
[04:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol thoreauputic
[04:26] <penguinboy> no windows drivers
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you use the native one ?
[04:26] <penguinboy> si
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> um.
[04:27] <penguinboy> I am thinking I should reinstall Hedgehog....then use apt-get to update Hedgehog to Badger?????
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> not entirely sure :| i dont use wifi, so i dont know where to start :| are you sure the cards on?
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> *forgot to turn on a wifi card and spent 4 hours try ing to fix a network* :(
[04:28] <penguinboy> i did not know you cold turn them on and off
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it a desktop wifi? you can ususly turn off laptop wifi
[04:29] <penguinboy> no laptop 
[04:31] <penguinboy> should I reinstall Hedgehog?
[04:31] <penguinboy> do you think
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> penguinboy: give them a week and do an upgrade, and if its not fixed, A. file a bug, and (optionaly) B resintall
[04:33] <penguinboy> k
[04:33] <penguinboy> how do you apt-get an upgrade to 5.10
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl. food :(
[04:35] <HillTop> penguinboy, you need to change the repository file, then do thet apt commands. 
[04:35] <penguinboy> adios mi amigo
[04:36] <penguinboy> change the repository from hoary to badger?
[04:36] <Sgep> Why can't there be an upgrade CD?
[04:36] <penguinboy> i agree sgep
[04:40] <penguinboy> if you have Hedgehog you cannot type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to Badger
[04:41] <HillTop> penguinboy, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradingubuntu
[04:43] <HillTop> Sgep, how are you here asking questions? There are sites selling distro CDs for a few US$ and ubuntu sends them out free.
[04:45] <penguinboy> thanks HillTop
[04:45] <penguinboy> I think I am going to go reinstall Hedgehog, edit my sources.list to reflect breezy, apt-get dist-upgrade, and see if tat keeps my wifi intact
[04:46] <Ravensky> I'm trying to install amaroK from their subversion source, but it cant find autoconf. Do I need to add it to my PATH? I installed it...
[04:46] <penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas!!!!
[04:47] <Ravensky> Como esta?
[04:47] <penguinboy> biene
[04:47] <Ravensky> bien
[04:47] <Ravensky> :P
[04:47] <Ravensky> Tienes un mono en tus pantalones?
[04:47] <penguinboy> lol
[04:47] <penguinboy> lol
[04:48] <`Nomad> !sources
[04:48] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:48] <penguinboy> donde es mi pantalones?
[04:48] <Ravensky> heh
[04:49] <Ravensky> Tu madre es una vaca!
[04:50] <penguinboy> Se siente realmente bueno tener un mono en mis pantalones! 
[04:52] <evilsoccer> _rob: what was site that I pasted earlier?
[04:52] <penguinboy> Su madre es el mono en mis pantalones! 
[04:54] <penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas
[04:54] <jsubl2> so long 
[04:55] <troth> k i got an easy one, i just got the bit torrent and bit tornado packages w/kynaptic, how do i access them to run  the prog?
[04:55] <_rob> [14:46]  <soccerfiend> my laptop was a breezy install, if you are interested in that sources.list it can be found at: http://pastebin.ca/25532
[04:55] <evilsoccer> I did not want to fire up the laptop
[04:55] <evilsoccer> thanx
[04:57] <evilsoccer> _rob: here is my current sources.list
[04:57] <evilsoccer> http://pastebin.ca/25535
[05:09] <ep> Any idea why sound doesn't work in 3d games.  I works in most other stuff.
[05:11] <RichardC> ok
[05:11] <RichardC> done
[05:12] <RichardC> now, is there a list of repositories i can use for 5.10, like the one found at ubuntuguide.org?
[05:14] <RichardC> ...
[05:14] <RichardC> nevermind
[05:14] <RichardC> just realized kubuntu uses the ubuntu repositories
[05:14] <RichardC> :/
[05:16] <RichardC> new problem
[05:16] <RichardC> if anyone is listening
[05:16] <RichardC> kate wont run
[05:16] <RichardC> konsole says it probably crashed
[05:17] <RichardC> richardc@milton:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <RichardC> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-richardc" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[05:17] <RichardC> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[05:17] <RichardC> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[05:19] <frank23> RichardC: you cannot use sudo with kate
[05:19] <frank23> RichardC: use kdesu kate instead
[05:20] <RichardC> ok
[05:20] <frank23> RichardC: you will have to kill kate as well using ksysguard or something
[05:20] <RichardC> thanks
[05:20] <RichardC> why cant i use sudo w/ kate?
[05:21] <frank23> RichardC: I don't know exactly.... sudo is made for command line programs but it also works with gnome apps
[05:21] <RichardC> so i should use kdesu instead of sudo?
[05:22] <frank23> RichardC: yes it is the only way it will work
[05:22] <RichardC> is that only for sudo, or does it apply to most programs with kubuntu?
[05:23] <frank23> RichardC: if you want to start a kde app as root you need kdesu
[05:23] <RichardC> ok
[05:23] <RichardC> thanks
[05:23] <frank23> np
[05:33] <`Nomad> !dvd
[05:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[05:34] <`Nomad> !hoary-extras
[05:34] <ubotu> it has been said that hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:00] <Ready> hi can help me why me resolution only 640x480
[06:00] <Ready> i wanna change 800x600
[06:01] <Ready> hello sir ?
[06:05] <arnt> Go to K menu, System settings and then Screen
[06:06] <Ready> i does
[06:06] <Ready> same
[06:06] <komitti> hye everybody
[06:06] <Ready> nothing happen
[06:06] <komitti> anyone can help me with my java?
[06:06] <Ready> 800x600 disaper from list
[06:06] <troy> probably X drivers... ewww
[06:06] <komitti> i want to install java to my kubuntu
[06:06] <komitti> hello
[06:06] <arnt> are you bejind a virtual machine or something like that 
[06:07] <Ready> i think i have format this HD again
[06:08] <troy> komitti: same as ubuntu - see: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre ... although it's for ubuntu 5.04, it can be adapted to 5.10 quite easily
[06:08] <Chameleon22> can someone pm me a breezy sources.list please, i want to do a dist upgrade 
[06:08] <arnt> Have u ever managed to have a linux distro use 800X600 in your hdw
[06:09] <troy> Chameleon22: see http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[06:09] <HillTop> Ready, when you installed, what resolution were you using?
[06:09] <Ready> 640x480 now
[06:09] <Ready> it very very suck
[06:09] <Chameleon22> troy, i need the correct KDE lines though 
[06:09] <Ready> 800x600 not show on list
[06:10] <komitti> anyone?
[06:10] <komitti> hallo???
[06:10] <troy> Chameleon22: it'll work for kde for official kubuntu
[06:10] <troy> Chameleon22: the kubuntu packages are in the ubuntu repos
[06:11] <Chameleon22> troy, uh ye i forgot lol, i was pointing to kde repos :p
[06:11] <troy> Chameleon22: the kde repos are for unofficial kde release that happen between *ubuntu releases mostly -- for example, 3.5beta is in there
[06:11] <troy> Chameleon22: all the official packages are in the normal repos
[06:12] <HillTop> Ready, when you boot the ubuntu CD, use a vga code to get the resolution you want; I used live vga=794 to get 1280x1024. 1024x758 is 791. 800x600 is 788.
[06:12] <Chameleon22> troy, ok thanks
[06:13] <Ready> HillTop when boot from cd use type rescue on console ?
[06:14] <HillTop> Ready, when you boot, you use a command, see help on F4 or F5. It sets the video, then when install to HD the same settings continues. It did on earlier Warty and Hoary for me.
[06:18] <RyNSki> Would this be an alight place to ask about a Kubuntu 5.10 problem?
[06:18] <RyNSki> alright.
[06:18] <RyNSki> Anyone alive?
[06:20] <HillTop> RyNSki, sure. Someone might know...
[06:20] <RyNSki> Alright, here goes...
[06:20] <RyNSki> Upgraded to 5.10...
[06:20] <RyNSki> KDE's media:/ no longer works for USB drives.
[06:21] <RyNSki> Tells me media:/sda1 does not exist.
[06:21] <RyNSki> The machine DOES mount the FS under /media/usbdisk
[06:21] <RyNSki> But KDE can't see it under the media section.
[06:22] <HillTop> RyNSki, I had the same problem so I booted up kubuntu 5.10pr (one week old release) and it worked fine there. It must be a difference in /etc/fstab
[06:22] <RyNSki> Yeah, I believe it worked in RC1, but I couldn't swear by it.
[06:23] <cave> Hello? First boot here~ 
[06:23] <RyNSki> I don't use it every day...
[06:23] <HillTop> Do you have the earlier version? I am in 5.10pr now (live) and so haven't made the comparison. There are only three lines   in the fstab.
[06:23] <HillTop> Hi cave.
[06:23] <cave> Hello HillTop 
[06:24] <RyNSki> Nah, I only have 5.10 now.
[06:24] <cave> this is my first time using Kubuntu (or Ubuntu for that matter)
[06:24] <RyNSki> cave: what version?
[06:24] <cave> 5.10 live
[06:24] <troy> I'll check it here in my version - one second
[06:24] <cave> as soon as im done toying around i'll download the install iso
[06:24] <RyNSki> Got a USB drive to hook up to it? ;)
[06:24] <troy> yes
[06:24] <HillTop> RyNSki, look at the first line of /etc/fstab mine says /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[06:25] <RyNSki> Mine's /proc.
[06:25] <cave> i got the live first because i was afraid it wouldnt detect my hardware, but i was pleasently surprised :)
[06:25] <RyNSki> Yeah, it does a pretty good job.
[06:25] <troy> mine no longer works - worked a few days ago - maybe the very sudden switch to 3.4.3 did it in...
[06:25] <RyNSki> Every upgrade seems to break something for me.
[06:25] <HillTop> RyNSki, yes, two USB thumb drives auto showed up on desktop on booting to live CD and then right click to open. And I could write to them.
[06:25] <RyNSki> The one prior to this broke firefox altogether.
[06:26] <cave> yea... I was using SimplyMepis, but that install got screwed up when I downloaded Gnome o.o;
[06:26] <RyNSki> I'm considering installing fresh... but I'd be really pissed if I did and hot noplace better. )
[06:26] <cave> and i figured i'd rather try something new instead of re-installing it
[06:27] <troy> worked less than a week ago for me -- also, the ATI GL drivers broke in the last few days too
[06:27] <cave> turns out i'm liking Kubuntu more so far (altough i havent used it for over an hour yet)
[06:27] <HillTop> RyNSki, I don't see Firefox here in kubuntu. It is not a very complete walking around CD but does show and tell OK.  KNOPPIX, never leave home without it.
[06:27] <RyNSki> Firefox is something that you gotta add, I believe.
[06:27] <RyNSki> Which I did.
[06:28] <RyNSki> But some minor release upgrade, I think to 1.0.7 broke it as anyone but root.
[06:28] <RyNSki> 5.10 has since corrected that one, thankfully.
[06:28] <RyNSki> But here:
[06:28] <RyNSki>  Hi,
[06:28] <RyNSki> This a know problem with KDE 3.4.3 (media:/ does not make use of HAL) and according to what I know, a fix will come soon.
[06:28] <RyNSki> We all have to be patient Wink
[06:28] <RyNSki> 
[06:28] <HillTop> cave, what live/install CDs do you have? ubuntu, kubuntu?? Have you tried ubuntu?
[06:28] <RyNSki> I found that on the bugs site.
[06:28] <RyNSki> So maybe 3.4.3 breaks media:/
[06:29] <cave> i have simplymepis 3.3 live and kubuntu 5.10 live
[06:29] <HillTop> RyNSki, I didn't see Firefox on the list. And Mozilla failed to load.
[06:29] <cave> i'm rather new to linux... still very much a newbie
[06:29] <cave> ive tried gnome and kde tough, and decided I liked kde better, so i went for kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[06:30] <cave> besides i dont care for the whole ethnic people huddling thing ubuntu has going on :P
[06:30] <HillTop> RyNSki, I wonder if they will ussue a new kubuntu liveCD? :)
[06:30] <frank23> cave: kde is definitly more familiar coming from windows
[06:31] <cave> it felt more customizeable too
[06:31] <frank23> cave: "ethnic"? aren't brazilians "ethnic"? ;-)
[06:31] <cave> i'm a big fan of that... if you saw my windows install you wouldn't think it was windows at first glance :)
 I use KDE also. Favorite distro for that right now is pclinuxos. But I follow ubuntu/kubuntu closely because I have more than one machine. :)
[06:32] <cave> isn't everyone " ethnic" ? ;-)
[06:32] <jrattner1> how do i get glxgears to produce FPS
[06:32] <frank23> cave: hehe
[06:32] <HillTop> cave, the ubuntu ethnic thing is recent, it will pass... :)
[06:33] <isai> does centrino work 'out of the box'?
[06:33] <RyNSki> I'm running Kubuntu off my harddisk anyway.
[06:33] <isai> I can't seem to setup the network connection (after install).
[06:33] <frank23> jrattner1: do you see the gears?  in my case it's so slow that you don't see the fps... games still work fine though
[06:34] <cave> i didnt mean to start a racial debate here, i just thought it looked corny :P
[06:34] <jrattner1> frank23, i see the gears
[06:34] <jrattner1> how can i get the FPS
[06:34] <RyNSki> My other problem is a lot of the KDE modules, when I tell them to go into the admin mode, they spin for awhile and don't do anything.
[06:34] <jrattner1> also, is there a tool for kubuntu similar to the ubuntu update manager
[06:35] <frank23> jrattner1: do you see them turning at like 1 turn a second?
[06:35] <cave> can i install firefox from the livecd? o.o;
[06:35] <orugo> hi
[06:35] <jrattner1> frank23, they are quite fast
[06:35] <orugo> i've installed 5.10
[06:35] <orugo> i have problems with my spanish translation :(
[06:36] <frank23> jrattner1: yeah they should be really fast
[06:36] <HillTop> RyNSki, if you install ubuntu first then add KDE desktop you end up with both but maybe the both will work better than kubuntu. Just wondering...
[06:36] <jrattner1> frank23, they are how can i get it to report FPS
[06:36] <chavo> jrattner1,  glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:36] <frank23> jrattner1: before the fps would appear on the console
[06:36] <jrattner1> frank23, it doesnt anymore
[06:37] <jrattner1> chavo, im serious
[06:37] <frank23> chavo: I thought that was a joke LOL
[06:37] <chavo> try it
[06:37] <jrattner1> how do you get it to list FPTS
[06:37] <HillTop> cave, you might be able to install from the firefox site from the tar files.
[06:37] <chavo> its for real
[06:37] <jrattner1> hahaha
[06:37] <jrattner1> it is for read
[06:37] <jrattner1> real
[06:37] <jrattner1> 5734 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3146.755 FPS
[06:37] <frank23> ohhhhh  I get 6000Fps but I still see them rotating at one turn a sec
[06:37] <jrattner1> thats pretty good
[06:37] <orugo> the new kubuntu  hasn't the kynaptic
[06:37] <propagandhi> has anyone else had a GPG error with apt-get recently
[06:37] <frank23> I thought something was wrong!
[06:37] <orugo> it comes with a different package manager
[06:38] <isai> how do I change my keyboard mapping?
[06:38] <fog> the new package manager is called Adept
[06:38] <cave> meh.. i'll just wait till i install it
[06:38] <isai> I am stuck in spanish but my keyboard is in english
[06:38] <jrattner1> will the HAL problem be fixed tomorrow
[06:38] <orugo> isai hablas espaol?
[06:38] <fog> K -> System -> Pakcage Manager (Adept)
[06:38] <isai> yep
[06:38] <frank23> isai in system stettings -> Regional
[06:38] <elad`> How do I make a command (xmod -e pointer = "...") run whenever X is initiated?
[06:39] <isai> frank23: does that change it for the entire system or just KDE?
[06:39] <propagandhi> I still have kynaptic, synaptic and adept, I'm getting a GPG error from the terminal using apt
[06:39] <orugo> isai: que tal esta tu traudccion? porq mi kubuntu 5.04 era 100% en espaol pero ahora tiene cosas en ingles (muchas cosas)
[06:39] <frank23> isai: not sure...
[06:39] <jrattner1> is adept or synaptic better?
[06:39] <frank23> jrattner1: I like synaptic better but I think it's just because I'm used to it
[06:40] <propagandhi> i personally think adept sucks
[06:40] <frank23> adept is a HUGE improvement over kynaptic
[06:40] <fog> synatipc was nice to see which packages were "official" ubuntu
[06:40] <isai> orugo: KDE esta en ingles como lo quiero sino el teclado esta en ingles (es una computadora portl o sea un laptop).
[06:40] <frank23> !es
[06:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:40] <jrattner1> frank23, i like synaptic too, i hope tomorrow the problem with reconising USB diisks are fixed?
[06:41] <judax> adept will get there, it is much better than kynaptic
[06:41] <frank23> jrattner1: I don't have a usb disk but updates which are not security related sometimes take a while
[06:41] <jrattner1> frank23, its more a fix...
[06:42] <jrattner1> frank23, breezy doesnt see  usb drives in konquereor
[06:43] <fog> blah, kscd autoruns no matter what i do...I've unchecked autoplay in the config panel but it always comes back checked
[06:43] <cave> Ok question: Aren't my hard drives supposed to appear on my desktop on the LiveCD?
[06:45] <chavo> synaptic with gtk-qt engine is perfect
[06:46] <cave> there's nothing on my /mnt folder... could it be that my hard drives weren't detected? i remember the mepis livecd gave me access to them
[06:46] <elad`> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5"
[06:46] <elad`> I need this to be initiated when I start X.
[06:46] <elad`> HELP. Please.
[06:46] <elad`> I've been trying to get this working for an hour now.
[06:46] <novosirj> Wireless sucks, etc.
[06:47] <HillTop> cave, I thought so too, I don't see and hard drives even tho one is fat32 which should show up. :/
[06:47] <cave> mine too
[06:47] <cave> maybe its just in the livecd? 
[06:47] <cave> i wanted to test musiic playback but i cant :S
[06:48] <HillTop> cave, the codecs aren't in the ubuntu/kubuntu set. You have to load them from third parties (patent issues etc.) But they are readily available. 
[06:49] <cave> oh
[06:49] <Vivaldi> hello
[06:49] <Vivaldi> does the dvd image contain more packages than the cd iso?
[06:49] <Vivaldi> i am not talking about the live option. it does not count
[06:49] <Vivaldi> i just want to know if the dvd iso has more packages when installing
[06:50] <cave> Vivaldi: from what i read the dvd is just the live + the install isos
[06:50] <Vivaldi> oh ok thx
[06:50] <propagandhi> anyone have an idea about this : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3104
[06:55] <danl_b> how do you access kdm theme manager?
[06:56] <danl_b> n/m i ish stupid
[06:56] <satafterh> http://counter.li.org/
[06:57] <HillTop> danl_b, try right clicking places like the desktop
[06:58] <danl_b> i just over looked it in the system settigns window
[06:58] <danl_b> im half asleep
[07:01] <Dark_Sith> morning
[07:01] <cave> too bad this livecd doesnt include azureus.... im gonna go back to windows now to download the install iso
[07:01] <cave> if all goes well i'll be back in a couple of hrs :)
[07:02] <cave> see ya guys
[07:02] <HillTop> good luck cave
[07:03] <cave> thanks!
[07:06] <HillTop> satafterh, how do they count ?? and not count multiple entries? by the user machine's address?
[07:07] <Pablo_C> ok... n00b question....  I installed 5.10 and when I got to my  system settings---> network settings  The networks settings page is taller than my resolution is tall so I cannot click the admin tab to make changes... any suggestions?
[07:07] <Pablo_C> and my lappy is running as high of resolution as it can
[07:07] <satafterh> #HillTop no idea, i just came across it and thought others might be interested
[07:09] <satafterh> HillTop - i posted it in the mandriva site and some guy so a real asshole, thought linux was about shareing and open info, he just turned he right off
[07:09] <HillTop> satafterh, I signed up some time ago #365505 -- now I see they are at lower numbers.  Something is broken there!
[07:11] <frank23> Pablo_C: shitty solution but you can right click the border and select move
[07:12] <Pablo_C> hmm
[07:13] <satafterh> #HillTop I dont really know much about it, I thought it was interesting though
[07:14] <Pablo_C> frank23, I can do full screen and I can see the buttons... Thanks... move wont let me move the top border above the top of the screen... and I can resize cause I cant grab the bottom of the window
[07:14] <Pablo_C> but fullscreen will do it
[07:14] <Pablo_C> :)
[07:15] <whurley> anyone install 5.10 on a new powerbook G4 yet?
[07:15] <kihaji> what would be the reason that adept is not accepting my su password, when the shell does
[07:16] <whurley> I'm seeing a big diff from what the liveCD produced vs. the install (sure it's a minor issue, but its escaping me) 
[07:20] <HillTop> whurley, does the install work better than the live CD?
[07:20] <whurley> actually 
[07:20] <leonard> i am back again
[07:20] <whurley> the install is far worse than the liveCD
[07:20] <Draconum> hey... I'm looking for some help...
[07:21] <frank23> !tell me about w32codecs
[07:21] <HillTop> Draconum, theere are 115 here, what is your question?  :)
[07:22] <Draconum> I'm needing help with installing kubuntu on my ubuntu... but i'm not entirly sure about what todo.
[07:22] <leonard> u need to run a new installation
[07:22] <leonard> from scratch
[07:22] <frank23> what?
[07:22] <frank23> no
[07:22] <leonard> kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu 
[07:22] <Draconum> yeah
[07:22] <Draconum> thats what I'm looking for...
[07:23] <Draconum> I'm just really new to linux :P
[07:23] <frank23> Draconum: install kubuntu-desktop  
[07:23] <frank23> in synaptic
[07:23] <leonard> it returns errors
[07:23] <Draconum> synaptic?
[07:23] <leonard> applications>install application
[07:24] <leonard> sorry, ADD APPLICATIONS BUTTON
[07:24] <Pablo_C> meh synaptic is gone... now it is Adept
[07:24] <frank23> Draconum: right   use adept
[07:25] <frank23> Draconum: no, wait right now you have ubuntu, not kubuntu, so you use synaptic
[07:25] <Draconum> ok how do I find synaptic?
[07:25] <novosirj> With both hands.
[07:26] <frank23> in the menu... I don't remember exactly
[07:26] <Draconum> Well thanks for that usfull information..
[07:26] <Draconum> :P
[07:26] <RyNSki> Heh, I'm feeling sarcastic. :)
[07:26] <RyNSki> Run it from a terminal if nothing else.
[07:26] <Draconum> :P
[07:26] <RyNSki> I don't use Ubuntu.
[07:26] <RyNSki> In Kubuntu it's in the KDE menu.
[07:26] <leonard> click on applications on the bottom extreme left
[07:26] <RyNSki> Under either System or Utils.
[07:26] <Pablo_C> or apt-get kdedesktop somthin or other
[07:26] <RyNSki> I always forget which one.
[07:26] <leonard> on the applications menu
[07:27] <leonard> then click on Add applications
[07:27] <Draconum> ok i'm in Synaptic...
[07:27] <Draconum> now what?
[07:27] <leonard> click on file
[07:27] <frank23> Draconum: search for and install kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <_jake> anyone here?
[07:28] <frank23> no
[07:28] <HillTop> hi _jake
[07:28] <RyNSki> There are instructions in the FAQ of kubuntu.org that contain the actual package name -- I forget it myself, but I assume those folks are correct.
[07:28] <_jake> hi
[07:28] <leonard> click on file, then clic on advance then click on search then type kubuntu 
[07:28] <Draconum> ok thanks...
[07:28] <leonard> i don't like kubuntu
[07:28] <_jake> ii click administrative mode in ANYTHING in the control panel, and it doesnt actually go to admin mode
[07:28] <leonard> i bet, you will revert back to ubuntu
[07:28] <leonard> kde sux
[07:28] <RyNSki> Right you are, _jake.
[07:28] <leonard> gnome is much better
[07:28] <Draconum> it is now installing :D
[07:28] <frank23> _jake: is this hoary or breezy?
[07:28] <_jake> breezy
[07:28] <Draconum> or downloading firstly
[07:28] <RyNSki> And I don't know why either.
[07:29] <RyNSki> It didn't work on Hoary for me either.
[07:29] <_jake> man
[07:29] <RyNSki> Luckily, I don't /really/ care.
[07:29] <frank23> _jake: this is a known and unfixed problem
[07:29] <RyNSki> Otherwise I'd be upset.
[07:29] <_jake> damn
[07:29] <frank23> _jake: try kdesu kcontrol
[07:29] <Draconum> so anyways... umm yeah... I;m not able to get my sound working either...
[07:29] <_jake> i think i will go back to ubuntu, i just wanted to acess my other harddrive with the music on it :(
[07:29] <leonard> i can't seem to play mpeg and mp3 using totem
[07:29] <_jake> i tried that it hung up
[07:29] <frank23> leonard: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:30] <leonard> i already did
[07:30] <RyNSki> leonard: I much prefer KDE.
[07:30] <RyNSki> I find Gnome to be fugly.
[07:30] <leonard> KDE looks and feels like windows
[07:30] <RyNSki> Eh, somewhat.
[07:30] <RyNSki> Not really though.
[07:31] <Draconum> So what do people usally use linix for?
[07:31] <Draconum> just...
[07:31] <frank23> RyNSki: its close enough to Windows to not be lost in it
[07:31] <Draconum> average stuff?
[07:31] <RyNSki> That's true.
[07:31] <leonard> everything
[07:31] <RyNSki> Draconum: What do people use computers for? There's your answer.
[07:31] <RyNSki> Do you mean "why?"
[07:31] <Draconum> :P
[07:31] <RyNSki> As in why did I switch?
[07:31] <_jake> but its so weird and i cant get anything to work in KDE
[07:31] <_jake> i admit, its beautiful, and it has the capability of being something really versatile and amazing
[07:31] <Draconum> yeah
[07:31] <RyNSki> And the answer for that one is Windows got slower and slowre.
[07:31] <RyNSki> er
[07:32] <leonard> KDE messes up my graphics
[07:32] <Draconum> ah
[07:32] <RyNSki> So on my latest re-install, I said, screw that.
[07:32] <Draconum> yeah
[07:32] <leonard> i can't get the right resolution of my screen in KDE
[07:32] <Draconum> I'm still a windows user... 
[07:32] <RyNSki> Actually, that's not what I said, but I'm not sure if we swear in here.
[07:32] <Draconum> I just wanted to try linux out as well
[07:32] <_jake> i had so many problems with windows, and it always just made me angry, and i didnt like the ethics of microsoft
[07:32] <Hobbsee> Draconum: tried a live cd?
[07:32] <RyNSki> That's another one.
[07:32] <leonard> linux is the best operating system 
[07:32] <_jake> and i like the versatility and diversity, and liberty of the open source community
[07:32] <Draconum> so I'm running both OS's on the same system.
[07:33] <Hobbsee> windows annoys me...every time i have to boot there...
[07:33] <Draconum> Yeah
[07:33] <Hobbsee> Draconum: nice, that works
[07:33] <RyNSki> Oh, another answer.
[07:33] <Draconum> :D
[07:33] <RyNSki> I stuck with Windows for the games.
[07:33] <Draconum> Yeah
[07:33] <HillTop> _jake, I hear ya. :)
[07:33] <RyNSki> And then I realized, when's the last time I played a game?
[07:33] <RyNSki> And that was the nail in the coffin.
[07:33] <leonard> my only problem is applications for linux
[07:33] <frank23> Draconum: yeah keep windows if you need it. I can only change songs on my mp3 player with windows
[07:33] <Draconum> yeah
[07:33] <_jake> ok well tonight, i am gonna sleep: morning: reinstall ubuntu, i was having problems with grub but i solved them
[07:33] <RyNSki> I do that at work.
[07:33] <leonard> i have certain applications like Actix Analyser i use for windows
[07:33] <_jake> gnight all
[07:33] <RyNSki> I wonder if there's a way to do it in Linux though.
[07:34] <RyNSki> Just haven't looked yet.
[07:34] <strike4ce> How do you save a file as executable?
[07:34] <RyNSki> Mine's a palm.
[07:34] <Draconum> I do alot of webmaster work
[07:34] <Draconum> but I'm planning on getting a mac for that.
[07:34] <RyNSki> Anyone know off the top of their head?
[07:34] <Pablo_C> chmod 777?
[07:34] <frank23> strike4ce: chmod +x  filename
[07:34] <strike4ce> Can anyone help me?
[07:34] <Draconum> than window will just be used for games and what not
[07:34] <leonard> Can i install linux on a Mac?
[07:34] <RyNSki> Yessir.
[07:34] <Draconum> yes
[07:34] <strike4ce> in terminal?
[07:34] <RyNSki> Yes.
[07:34] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: nope, not without more info
[07:34] <strike4ce> frank23: in terminal
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: What are you really talking about?
[07:35] <frank23> strike4ce: yeah 
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: There is no such thing as an executable file.
[07:35] <strike4ce> trying to download java
[07:35] <leonard> is there flight simulator for linux?
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: There are files with execute permissions set.
[07:35] <satafterh> anyone know why dvdauthor will not install properly from atp-get or any other manager?
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: But any file can have them.
[07:35] <frank23> strike4ce: is java 1.4 good enough? get it in multiverse
[07:35] <strike4ce> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087
[07:35] <HillTop> strike4ce, depends on how the file was created. Compile a C program, make a bash script?
[07:35] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:35] <strike4ce> frank23: read that
[07:36] <Hobbsee> leonard: there are a few, never tried them, they're in adept
[07:36] <Draconum> is X-Chat supose to make a sound when somebody reply's?
[07:36] <Draconum> or says something?
[07:36] <RyNSki> Yeah, I needs me some Java. I haven't gotten it yet.
[07:36] <frank23> strike4ce: they should change that webpage
[07:36] <satafterh> they are they call restricted
[07:36] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: check out my link above
[07:36] <Hobbsee> they have the debs there and make it really simple :)
[07:37] <frank23> strike4ce: enable multiverse 
[07:37] <leonard> linux is compiled on which programming language?
[07:37] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: where does that deb file go?
[07:37] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: how do i open it
[07:37] <Hobbsee> wherever you like.  home directory
[07:37] <frank23> leonard: C and C++
[07:37] <RyNSki> strike4ce: man dpkg -- you want dpkg -i in this case.
[07:37] <Hobbsee> then, in a console "sudo dpkg -i sun(tab)"
[07:37] <RyNSki> strike4ce: dpkg -i <filename>
[07:37] <RyNSki> Oh... right... sudo.
[07:38] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: it opened kate
[07:38] <RyNSki> I'm so not used to the sudo deal.
[07:38] <RyNSki> Save it, don't open it.
[07:38] <leonard> what about Windows? just curious
[07:38] <Hobbsee> ahem, kdesu, before i get in trouble for it again :P
[07:38] <frank23> leonard: C and C++ I'm sure
[07:38] <Draconum> doesn't windows have some Basic in it?
[07:39] <leonard> the c and c++ used to compile these OS run on which OS?
[07:39] <frank23> Draconum: maybe...
[07:39] <RyNSki> Heh, the ol' chicken and the egg.
[07:40] <RyNSki> And voila, I have the Java.
[07:40] <Draconum> almost a minute before kubuntu is done downloading
[07:40] <frank23> leonard: the windows compilers run on windows, gcc runs on everything you can imagine
[07:40] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: :D it's far easier doing it that way!
[07:40] <RyNSki> And I'll be damned if I remember what I wanted it for.
[07:40] <Hobbsee> Draconum: yay!
[07:40] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: LOL.  something
[07:40] <frank23> RyNSki: azureus?
[07:41] <leonard> i still don't understand how Windows/linux could be written using C/C++ that run on Windows/Linux
[07:41] <RyNSki> Looks like it mighta been TripWire Manager. Nope... that's still broken... heh.
[07:41] <frank23> leonard: C is just a programming language
[07:41] <strike4ce> RyNSki: why save it?  its already on my desktop
[07:41] <RyNSki> Oh.
[07:41] <Draconum> I wonder why it's called C... why not like... W or A or Q?
[07:42] <Draconum> lol
[07:42] <RyNSki> I thought you were opening it from a browser.
[07:42] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: in a console: cd Desktop
[07:42] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: then "sudo dpkg -i sun(tab)"
[07:42] <Draconum> anyways I'll be back in a bit...
[07:42] <Draconum> kubuntu time!
[07:42] <Hobbsee> :D
[07:42] <Hobbsee> Draconum: enjoy the new installer
[07:42] <Hobbsee> more clear than the old one
[07:42] <Draconum> Will do.
[07:42] <leonard> Thanks Frank
[07:42] <strike4ce> what console?
[07:42] <RyNSki> Anyone know anything about libstdc++
[07:42] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Open "Konsole."
[07:42] <Hobbsee> konsole
[07:43] <strike4ce> lol sorry please have patience with me
[07:43] <leonard> so there must be some primitive OS which can understand this programming language right?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: no problems, for future reference, most commands that people give you will go in the console - it's easier to explain that way
[07:43] <RyNSki> I suppose I should install those w32codecs too.
[07:43] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:43] <Hobbsee> could do, yeah
[07:43] <Hobbsee> wonder if i installed them...think i did
[07:44] <RyNSki> I hate adding repositories.
[07:44] <RyNSki> Every time I do, one has new versions of all my current stuff.
[07:44] <RyNSki> After doing "update", nothing works. ;)
[07:44] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: I did cd desktop and got this: No such file or directory
[07:44] <Hobbsee> case sensitive
[07:44] <Hobbsee> cd Desktop
[07:44] <RyNSki> strike4ce: EVERYTHING is case sensitive.
[07:44] <Hobbsee> unless you've renamed it
[07:44] <RyNSki> Nearly.
[07:44] <Hobbsee> it's really annoying lol
[07:44] <RyNSki> Hobbsee: He hasn't. ;)
[07:44] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:44] <Hobbsee> didnt think so
[07:44] <RyNSki> Hobbsee: Why?
[07:45] <RyNSki> I love that it's predictable.
[07:45] <Hobbsee> what, case sensitive?  cos i can never remember which are case sensitive folders, and which arent
[07:45] <strike4ce> So I need to rename it?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> no
[07:45] <RyNSki> What you type is what you get.
[07:45] <Hobbsee> just "cd Desktop"
[07:45] <Hobbsee> so true
[07:45] <strike4ce> AHHH!!! LMAO
[07:45] <RyNSki> I like getting what I ask for. :)
[07:46] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:46] <RyNSki> Y'know, "give me Java dammit" "Oh, have some Java." etc.
[07:46] <Hobbsee> you can do a "dir" to check that you're in the one you wanted to be it
[07:46] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:46] <Hobbsee> and see if the filename is there
[07:46] <RyNSki> ls -la -- get out of the habit of using dir and you'll be a lot better prepared for UNIX, etc.
[07:46] <Hobbsee> ah...
[07:47] <RyNSki> Or just ls.
[07:47] <Hobbsee> ooh pretty!
[07:47] <Hobbsee> yeah
[07:47] <Hobbsee> tried that one first
[07:47] <RyNSki> I doubt dir works on SunOS, etc.
[07:47] <RyNSki> Ooh, ls is color, dir is not.
[07:47] <RyNSki> Interesting.
[07:47] <Hobbsee> very
[07:47] <Hobbsee> much more pretty in colour :P
[07:47] <RyNSki> So true.
[07:48] <RyNSki> Now to find libstdc++ in the form that TripWire wants.
[07:48] <Hobbsee> thing i want to know is, can linux shut down computers remotely via a command, like MSDOS lol?
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about wine
[07:48] <Hobbsee> that was fun during school!
[07:48] <RyNSki> Nah.
[07:48] <RyNSki> Linux is a lot less retarded.
[07:48] <RyNSki> You'd have to actually try to have your machine be that insecure.
[07:48] <_bridgetd> linux... was ever retarded?
[07:49] <HillTop> Hobbsee, use pwd to see working directory
[07:49] <_bridgetd> im just pissed i dont have xchat installed yet
[07:49] <RyNSki> ...if it isn't in your prompt. :)
[07:49] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:49] <RyNSki> Whoa now.
[07:49] <RyNSki> What on earth did you type? :)
[07:50] <RyNSki> strike4ce: What did you type?
[07:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell chili_kaiser about wine
[07:50] <RyNSki> No.
[07:51] <RyNSki> You tell him or her about wine.
[07:51] <Hobbsee> !wine
[07:51] <RyNSki> Heh, goes to show where my mind is... completely forgot about WINE and was thinking wine.
[07:51] <Hobbsee> wonder if that link still works...
[07:51] <RyNSki> !wine
[07:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:52] <RyNSki> "Someone already said that 20 seconds ago."
[07:52] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: dpkg -i sun(tab)
[07:52] <Hobbsee> yeah, but it doesnt show thru here now
[07:52] <Draconum> err...
[07:52] <Draconum> ok
[07:52] <RyNSki> ...which sounds like something a person would say.
[07:52] <Draconum> I installed the package.
[07:52] <Draconum> now what.
[07:52] <RyNSki> But not actually mean 20 seconds.
[07:52] <RyNSki> strike4ce: The TAB key, not (tab).
[07:52] <RyNSki> TAB completes a filename.,
[07:52] <strike4ce> LMAO
[07:52] <Hobbsee> hehehe...very useful that
[07:52] <Draconum> I don't know what todo from here.
[07:52] <strike4ce> sorry guys or girls?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> girl here
[07:53] <satafterh> what a good tool for divx2dvd?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> Draconum: you downloaded the breezy kubuntu cd, right?
[07:53] <Draconum> ... no
[07:53] <Draconum> am I supose to ?
[07:53] <Draconum> lol
[07:53] <Hobbsee> what'd you download, i dont think i was here early enough
[07:53] <Hobbsee> what are you trying to do lol
[07:53] <RyNSki> I miss the /trout command.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> oh darn!  it's not there!  i've not noticed it before
[07:54] <Draconum> I'm trying to get ubuntu switched with kubuntu
[07:54] <RyNSki> I guess there's a way to set an alias in this thing.
[07:54] <RyNSki> It's been awhile.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> Draconum: ok, so what'd you install?
[07:54] <RyNSki> The /trout command is in mIRC.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> ah...
[07:54] <RyNSki> If I recall correctly.
[07:54] <strike4ce> NUTS!
[07:54] <Hobbsee> this is konversation
[07:54] <RyNSki> As is this.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: what?
[07:54] <Draconum> I went to synaptic and installed the kubuntu-desktop thing from there...
[07:54] <strike4ce> no such file in directory
[07:54] <Draconum> now I don't know what todo
[07:55] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: are there any other debs on your desktop?
[07:55] <Hobbsee> Draconum: log out, hit session manager, pick kde
[07:55] <Draconum> ok
[07:55] <serge> Usb keys don't work in the Breezy final ?
[07:56] <RyNSki> Nope.
[07:56] <Hobbsee> usb keys should work...
[07:56] <Hobbsee> really?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> i thought i tried that
[07:56] <HillTop> USB failed for me too.
[07:56] <bjv> i doubt it?
[07:56] <RyNSki> I'd call it bull@#%t, but I still don't know if we swear in here. ;)
[07:56] <serge> Yes, key is mounted as /media/usbdisk, but Kde search /media/sda1
[07:56] <RyNSki> However, I think it's a KDE bug.
[07:56] <RyNSki> It looks in media:/sda1, different deal.
[07:57] <bjv> where did you hear they would not work?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> which kde are you using?
[07:57] <RyNSki> media:/ is supposed to know where it's going.
[07:57] <RyNSki> 3.4.3
[07:57] <Hobbsee> works here, 3.5 beta
[07:57] <serge> Before the final Brezzy, it's work fine.
[07:57] <bjv> they are just usb mass storage devices..
[07:57] <jagodragon> can any one help me with scanner trouble
[07:57] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: no debs
[07:57] <Hobbsee> media:/ finds it
[07:57] <RyNSki> 3.4.3 is broken.
[07:57] <RyNSki> 3.4.2 was good.
[07:57] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: then where'd you save the deb file that you downloaded?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: nothing's stopping you from upgrading to 3.5
[07:57] <Draconum> whoot
[07:57] <Draconum> I'm ahppy
[07:57] <RyNSki> The word Beta is stopping me. :)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> Draconum: :D
[07:57] <Draconum> and i like how it looks :D
[07:58] <Draconum> now..
[07:58] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: it's sounding like it works better than 3.4.3
[07:58] <Draconum> just to get my sound working
[07:58] <RyNSki> Oh, I felt the burn there.
[07:58] <RyNSki> LOL
[07:58] <strike4ce> hmmm should I have downloaded j2sdk1.5?
[07:58] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: it may be a beta, but it's been a very stable beta since it was released...
[07:58] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Nope. j2re.
[07:58] <Hobbsee> no, you should have gotten the jre
[07:58] <RyNSki> Java Runtime Environment.
[07:58] <kihaji> how come I cannot get any gui app to accept my root password, yet the commandline does
[07:58] <Hobbsee> Draconum: what type of soundcard do you have?
[07:58] <strike4ce> ok jus sec
[07:59] <RyNSki> Unless you're into Java coding... which pardon me, but from the sound of it... hehe. :)
[07:59] <Draconum> I have an onboard Creative 24-bit
[07:59] <serge> Kde 3.5 beta is perhaps stable, but it is not translated (i'm french).
[07:59] <Hobbsee> Draconum: in alsamixer (in konsole), are all the channels turned up
[07:59] <Draconum> I'll check
[07:59] <Hobbsee> serge: ah ok, that's a pity
[07:59] <Hobbsee> Draconum: after that, mute the inputs called line jack sense and headphone jack sense
[07:59] <Hobbsee> then try
[08:00] <RyNSki> How would I go about upgrading>?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> add the 3.5 reps to your sources list
[08:00] <Hobbsee> !3.5
[08:00] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:00] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:00] <ubotu> methinks kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:00] <Hobbsee> back in a sec
[08:00] <RyNSki> That sounds like a good idea.
[08:00] <RyNSki> Is it almost out though
[08:00] <RyNSki> ?
[08:01] <RyNSki> ubotu: You're wrong.
[08:01] <ubotu> RyNSki: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:01] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  do i need the first file or second?
[08:01] <strike4ce> second says update?
[08:02] <strike4ce> Why when i download does KATE open?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> back
[08:02] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: the link didnt work?
[08:03] <strike4ce> scroll up
[08:03] <jagodragon> try to dowload as tar and install manuslly
[08:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, but that's painful lol
[08:03] <RyNSki> Not the first one, no.
[08:03] <jagodragon> yes but works
[08:03] <RyNSki> It's a 404.
[08:03] <strike4ce> I get a warning that the file is a binary and saving it will result in a corrupt file???
[08:03] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:03] <ubotu> it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:04] <jagodragon> yes sam problem
[08:04] <Hobbsee> now...how do you change this bot...
[08:04] <Hobbsee> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php is the correct link
[08:04] <strike4ce> why does kate open when I download that file???
[08:04] <strike4ce> jre
[08:04] <Hobbsee> !no, kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:05] <Hobbsee> bummer, that wasnt it
[08:05] <Draconum> err.. I can't find Alsamixer.
[08:05] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: is KATE supposed to open when I save a file?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: no
[08:05] <Hobbsee> what browser are you using to download the file?
[08:05] <RyNSki> ubotu: kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php
[08:05] <ubotu> ...but kde3.5 is already something else...
[08:05] <strike4ce> konqueror
[08:06] <Hobbsee> it should just save regardless, i thought
[08:06] <Hobbsee> if you've got another browser, try that instead
[08:06] <RyNSki> ubotu: You are still wrong. ;)
[08:06] <ubotu> RyNSki: I think you lost me on that one
[08:06] <RyNSki> !help
[08:06] <strike4ce> ok
[08:06] <kinfo> Available commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status
[08:06] <Draconum> where do I find Alsamixer?
[08:07] <RyNSki> !mod kde3.5
[08:07] <Hobbsee> ubotu, kde 3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:07] <ubotu> RyNSki: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:07] <ubotu> Hobbsee: okay
[08:07] <Hobbsee> yay!
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:07] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:07] <dodo> aloooo
[08:07] <Hobbsee> bummer
[08:07] <RyNSki> You set something else.
[08:07] <Hobbsee> exactly
[08:07] <Hobbsee> it should have taken it
[08:07] <pussfeller> gah, konqy still opens links in freakin temp
[08:08] <pussfeller> why am i the only one that finds this intolerable
[08:08] <RyNSki> !mod kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php
[08:08] <ubotu> RyNSki: okay
[08:08] <RyNSki> !mod kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:08] <ubotu> ...but mod kde3.5 is already something else...
[08:08] <Hobbsee> asking nalioth - he knows how to do this stuff
[08:08] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: ok this time im using firefox
[08:08] <RyNSki> Oh hell.
[08:08] <RyNSki> Hehe.
[08:08] <Hobbsee> right
[08:08] <RyNSki> !del kde3.5
[08:08] <ubotu> RyNSki: Are you on ritalin?
[08:08] <strike4ce> whenever i open firefox i get some missing file warning ubuntu artwork?
[08:08] <RyNSki> LOL
[08:09] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Me too. I changed my start page.
[08:09] <Hobbsee> give us a second, and stop reprogramming the bot
[08:09] <Hobbsee> i got told how to do it...
[08:09] <Draconum> how do I get to Alsamixer?
[08:09] <Draconum> Anybody?
[08:10] <Hobbsee> Draconum: open a konsole
[08:10] <RyNSki> I was reading the help... <shrug> but it's not what I thought.
[08:10] <Hobbsee> type "alsamixer"
[08:10] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  That was it konqueror was screwing it up
[08:10] <pussfeller> simce i upgraded my vts are gone
[08:10] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: i always use firefox, so i wouldnt know
[08:10] <pussfeller> alt+function does nothing
[08:10] <RyNSki> Hobbsee: The reason yours didn't work is that you didn't set kde3.5, you set kde 3.5
[08:10] <RyNSki> With a space.
[08:10] <Draconum> it says mixer elems not found
[08:10] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: it set it up do I need to do anything else?
[08:10] <RyNSki> Which was not already defined.
[08:11] <pussfeller> err cnt alt f
[08:11] <Draconum> Hoddsee: is says mixer elems not found.
[08:11] <strike4ce> what is a good torrent to use?
[08:11] <Hobbsee> ah...
[08:11] <Hobbsee> !forget kde 3.5
[08:11] <ubotu> i forgot kde 3.5, Hobbsee
[08:11] <kinfo> [kde]  is not defined
[08:11] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:12] <Draconum> Mobbsee: it says mixer elems not found.
[08:12] <Hobbsee> !forget kde3.5
[08:12] <ubotu> Hobbsee: i forgot kde3.5
[08:12] <kinfo> [kde3.5]  is not defined
[08:12] <Hobbsee> it isnt now...
[08:12] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:12] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Hobbsee
[08:12] <Hobbsee> excellent
[08:12] <strike4ce> ok it said jre was set up am I done?
[08:12] <RyNSki> I've still got it in my buffer if you like.
[08:12] <Hobbsee> ubotu kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:12] <ubotu> okay, Hobbsee
[08:13] <Hobbsee> excellent
[08:13] <RyNSki> Word.
[08:13] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[08:13] <ubotu> well, kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:13] <Hobbsee> thanks nalioth, i fixed it
[08:13] <nalioth> wonderful
[08:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:13] <RyNSki> I get an error actually.
[08:13] <RyNSki> When trying to update.
[08:13] <Hobbsee> what error?
[08:13] <RyNSki> GPG error.
[08:13] <nalioth> all entries into ubotu are logged by time and user
[08:14] <satafterh> kde 3.5 pretty stable?
[08:14] <nalioth> RyNSki: disregard the gpg error
[08:14] <Hobbsee> grab the key from that page as well
[08:14] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: it terminal says jre is setup do i need to go to adept now or is it installed?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> satafterh: yes
[08:14] <Hobbsee> no, it's installed, assuming you did dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:14] <RyNSki> Should I log off KDE first, you figure?
[08:14] <satafterh> #Hobbsee you using it?
[08:14] <strike4ce> yes
[08:14] <Hobbsee> satafterh: you bet
[08:14] <RyNSki> I'd imagine I should.
[08:14] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: when you do, you should reboot
[08:14] <Hobbsee> or there's some quicker way to do that, which i never remember
[08:14] <strike4ce> so the tab command finds the file name?
[08:15] <RyNSki> Here's one for you...
[08:15] <Hobbsee> and it's not ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:15] <RyNSki> My VC's don't work anymore.
[08:15] <satafterh> Hobbsee- long now youve had it?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: it'll complete the filename for you
[08:15] <Draconum> Hobbsee: When I type "alsamixer" in the konsole it says "no mixer elems found"
[08:15] <strike4ce> cool
[08:15] <RyNSki> I don't know since when... a day or two at max.
[08:15] <RyNSki> CTRL-ALT-F2... nothing there.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> satafterh: when was it released into beta on the kubuntu site again?  since then
[08:15] <strike4ce> What a good wifi manager I cant set up secure with kwifi it locks up
[08:16] <RyNSki> strike4ce: I've been using iwconfig on the command line because KWiFi is broken.
[08:16] <Hobbsee> Draconum: sounds like your sound didnt get configured at all then...wonder what the command is to check
[08:16] <strike4ce> someone said wireless assistant
[08:16] <bjv> i dont understand, if i have to create /etc/apt/apt.conf..
[08:16] <bjv> then where was ubuntu getting it's configs before?
[08:16] <RyNSki> bjv: What are you talking about?
[08:16] <RyNSki> bjv: The sources file?
[08:16] <RyNSki> Or actually apt.conf?
[08:16] <Hobbsee> bjv: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d in that folder?
[08:16] <bjv> RyNSki: no the apt.conf
[08:17] <Hobbsee> there should already be a file there
[08:17] <RyNSki> It probably has defaults.
[08:17] <bjv> i see 2 files, when i cat them they just have short strange gobblty-gook.
[08:17] <RyNSki> Oh...
[08:17] <RyNSki> bjv: There an apt.conf.d
[08:17] <RyNSki> It's not a file, it's a dir.
[08:18] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: VC's not working any more?  what are vc's?
[08:18] <RyNSki> Virtual consoles.
[08:18] <Hobbsee> checked the shortcuts in system settings?
[08:18] <RyNSki> Me?
[08:19] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: yep
[08:19] <RyNSki> No, not what I'm talking about... here...
[08:19] <Draconum> this is bugging me
[08:19] <RyNSki> Know that to get back it's going to be ALT-F7, if you don't do this normally.
[08:19] <RyNSki> But try CTRL-ALT-F1.
[08:19] <Hobbsee> ctrl alt f1 is giving me tty1, ie console 1
[08:19] <RyNSki> It will bring you to a text console if your machine isn't broken like mine. Mine brings me to a blank screen.
[08:19] <Hobbsee> ctrl alt f7 goes back to GUI for this
[08:20] <RyNSki> tty1 = console1 = VC.
[08:20] <RyNSki> Yeah.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:20] <grobi> kann mir jemand sagen wieso sich die laufwerke auf dem desktop nicht ffnen lassen?
[08:20] <RyNSki> Mine don't work. Nothing on 1-6.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> !de
[08:20] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:21] <Hobbsee> grobi: enschuldigung, ich nicht spreke gut deutsch!
[08:21] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: i wonder why...
[08:21] <Hobbsee> and i'm sure i spelt entschuldigung wrong, along with the rest of it
[08:21] <RyNSki> Pretty screwed up.
[08:21] <RyNSki> I can run it by hand.
[08:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:22] <RyNSki> But I'm in runlevel 2 and init has the getty's defined for level 2.
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Draconum: for the sound, ask on #ubuntu, they usually can tell you
[08:22] <Hobbsee> seeing as there are more people ther
[08:22] <Hobbsee> ooh, it's quiet there!  only 281 people!
[08:23] <Hobbsee> used to seeing 600 +, after the past few days...
[08:23] <nalioth> Hobbsee: you were not in #ubuntu when freenode got pwnd?
[08:24] <Draconum> ok
[08:25] <Hobbsee> nalioth: perhaps not, i wasnt here yesterday
[08:25] <Hobbsee> why, what happened?
[08:25] <nalioth> somebody got access to freenode and took over #debian, #ubuntu, and other large channels
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ouch!
[08:26] <nalioth> dumped everyone out of the channels
[08:26] <Hobbsee> nope, wasnt there for that
[08:26] <nalioth> that's why there are so few people in #ubuntu
[08:26] <Hobbsee> double ouch
[08:26] <jagodragon> can any one help me with a scanner problem
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ah...cos they're usually in there idle
[08:29] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[08:30] <strike4ce> Do I have to keep that jre that I downloaded to desktop once it is installed?
[08:31] <strike4ce> on desktop?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: nope, you can delete it :)
[08:31] <Hobbsee> it's just an install file, it does nothing else
[08:33] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: what does this mean?
[08:33] <strike4ce> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:33] <strike4ce> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:33] <Hobbsee> you can ignore it, i think
[08:33] <Hobbsee> the keys have been stuffed parts of the times in other days
[08:34] <Hobbsee> just run sudo apt-get upgrade after it, and it'll be fine
[08:35] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  could it be that I added a new source to sourcelist?
[08:35] <Hobbsee> which did you add?
[08:36] <strike4ce> deb ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time-debpool sarge custom
[08:36] <strike4ce> deb-src ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time-debpool sarge custom
[08:37] <Hobbsee> it's generally a bad idea to add the sarge reps
[08:37] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: I put those in reposotories and then applied and ran adept.  No file
[08:37] <Hobbsee> much safer to just download teh particular deb you want, and install it manually
[08:37] <strike4ce> ok
[08:37] <strike4ce> package?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> yeah, the particular deb/ particular package
[08:38] <bjv> YES!  i stopped apt-get from running 2 parallel downloads.
[08:38] <bjv> winnar.
[08:39] <helpme> there is no kubuntu unofficial gaq for breezy:(
[08:39] <helpme> there is no kubuntu unofficial faq for breezy:(
[08:40] <labkom> fgjf
[08:40] <Hobbsee> helpme: you can use most of the ubuntu faq
[08:40] <Hobbsee> !kubuntufaq
[08:40] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Are you on ritalin?
[08:40] <helpme> !kubuntufaq
[08:40] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, helpme
[08:41] <Hobbsee> !faq
[08:41] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[08:41] <helpme> :(
[08:41] <Hobbsee> use that...
[08:41] <RyNSki> BRB.
[08:42] <helpme> single page version of faq??
[08:42] <helpme> !avidemux info
[08:42] <ubotu> helpme: Are you on ritalin?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> as in the ubuntuguide?
[08:43] <helpme> !info avidemux 
[08:43] <Hobbsee> !avidemux
[08:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hobbsee
[08:43] <strike4ce> damn Im missing some files so it wouldnt install wireless assistant
[08:43] <Hobbsee> which files are you missing?
[08:44] <helpme> !info blast2
[08:44] <ubotu> blast2: (Basic Local Alignment Search Tool), section universe/science, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.10.20050429-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 269 kB, Installed size: 868 kB
[08:44] <Hobbsee> and have you tried "sudo apt-get install nameoffilehere"?
[08:45] <strike4ce> wlassistant depends on libidn11 (>= 0.5.18); however:
[08:45] <strike4ce>   Version of libidn11 on system is 0.5.13-1.0.
[08:45] <helpme> !info acidrip
[08:45] <ubotu> acidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[08:46] <Hobbsee> you've done a sudo apt-get update and a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:46] <strike4ce> I upgraded lastnight the new version
[08:46] <helpme> Hobbsee: r u asking me?
[08:46] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: is that file old?
[08:46] <Hobbsee> no, was asking strike4ce
[08:47] <strike4ce> no not asking just stating sorry
[08:47] <strike4ce> maybe that version wont work with 5.10
[08:47] <Hobbsee> it should have auto updated to whatever the latest version is
[08:48] <novosirj> Excellent.
[08:48] <jagodragon> how can i make my system use my scanner?
[08:49] <RyNSki> I've upgraded to KDE 3.5
[08:49] <strike4ce> what is apt-get -f install?
[08:49] <RyNSki> The problem went away.
[08:50] <RyNSki> Well, 3.4.9blahblah.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: yay :D
[08:50] <Hobbsee> they often call them 3.4.999 etc while they're still a beta
[08:50] <RyNSki> Yeah.
[08:50] <RyNSki> Makes sense.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: i think it's a force install, check in a console
[08:50] <Hobbsee> ie apt-get install -help
[08:50] <strike4ce> it said I may want to do that
[08:51] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, you could
[08:51] <Hobbsee> not sure if it's a good idea though
[08:51] <RyNSki> If you're a newb, you probably don't want to do that.
[08:51] <strike4ce> says it will free up 389kb
[08:51] <strike4ce> lol
[08:51] <RyNSki> Only if you're certain of what you're doing.
[08:51] <RyNSki> The deps are there to protect you.
[08:52] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: so true
[08:52] <helpme> which repos do i add for libdvdcss2, mp3 etc.??
[08:52] <strike4ce> ohh it wants to reove wireless assistant
[08:52] <strike4ce> remove
[08:52] <labkom> jkljkl
[08:52] <strike4ce> 1 to remove it says
[08:52] <Hobbsee> !tell helpme about w32codecs
[08:53] <Hobbsee> read that page, and it'll tlel you about the rest
[08:53] <strike4ce> who me?
[08:53] <RyNSki> !w32codecs
[08:53] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <strike4ce> RyNSki: ok all it did was remove wla assistant
[08:55] <strike4ce> what the hell is a gpg error
[08:55] <Hobbsee> !gpg
[08:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[08:56] <strike4ce> When I do apt-get update I get that error?
[08:56] <Hobbsee> post the full error?
[08:56] <strike4ce> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:57] <Hobbsee> you should be able to ignore it, assumign it's from the ubuntu repositories, which it is
[08:57] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  How do i know if I have the latest version?
[08:58] <Toma-> is anyone elses control center all messed up in breezy?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> adept should tell you...
[08:58] <RyNSki> Toma-: Meaning exactly what?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> Toma-: what do you define as messed up?
[08:59] <Toma-> opening a thing like "Colours" pops up in the window, but it too big for the window and it doesnt get resized...
[08:59] <RyNSki> Oh. No.
[08:59] <Toma-> ill take a screenshot. it totally sux
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Toma-: you can use alt
[08:59] <Hobbsee> and move the window around that way
[08:59] <Toma-> hang on it working....
[08:59] <Toma-> brb, buggin
[08:59] <brosioz> how could i purge all conf file of a packege that i've alredy remove ?
[09:00] <helpme> the wiki u gave seems to be for hoary...will it work on breezy?
[09:00] <strike4ce> I have KDE 3.4.3
[09:00] <Toma-> weird! its working. must be the good vibes fom here :D
[09:00] <Hobbsee> helpme: which wiki was this?
[09:00] <Hobbsee> oh that
[09:00] <Hobbsee> yeah, should work
[09:00] <strike4ce> is that the newest Hobbsee  KDE 3.4.3?
[09:01] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: yes, unless you wanted the beta
[09:02] <strike4ce> why does adept load upgrades when I fetch?  I thought the uprades were installed?
[09:02] <kaand> riddle me this: my sound worked in a knoppix livecd but not a MEPIS live cd. it worked in hoary and warty but not breezy. what is wrong?
[09:02] <Hobbsee> they were, but there's probably more updates
[09:02] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: Beta LOL IM barely hanging on here
[09:02] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: lol
[09:03] <Hobbsee> kaand: any idea what the solution was?  Riddell seems to be idle
[09:03] <strike4ce> So even though they're installed it will keep fetching the same ones and committing them?
[09:03] <Hobbsee> shouldnt do, maybe they werent installed
[09:04] <kaand> i have no idea
[09:04] <kaand> the knoppix i was using was the one that came with the knoppix hacks book
[09:04] <kaand> but i've been spending the last several days trying to get sound working in breezy
[09:05] <strike4ce> RyNSki: can I ask a question?
[09:06] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Sure.
[09:07] <strike4ce> ok i fetch in adept they all say 100% then the commit button and full upgrade button are highlighted. Is this right?
[09:08] <RyNSki> Sounds OK to me, but what are you upgrading?
[09:08] <strike4ce> RyNSki: nothing that I know of just did fetch
[09:08] <RyNSki> Oh... OK.
[09:08] <RyNSki> Yeah, that's fine.
[09:08] <RyNSki> Probably some minor updates.
[09:08] <strike4ce> RyNSki:  why does it do it everytime?
[09:09] <RyNSki> What does it do every time
[09:09] <RyNSki> ?
[09:09] <kaand> help :(
[09:09] <RyNSki> kaand: With what?
[09:09] <strike4ce> it fetches and then the commit lights up and the full upgrade button
[09:10] <RyNSki> Well, do the commit.
[09:10] <kaand> vexing sound problem that i've been tackling for days
[09:10] <RyNSki> Oh.
[09:10] <RyNSki> What's the matter?
[09:10] <strike4ce> I do and then the fetch button stays on and if I hit it again it does the same process over
[09:11] <kaand> no sound at all since breezy. but knoppix and hoary had sound
[09:11] <kaand> from what i can see on lspci and lsmod, it looks like my card is detected and everything
[09:11] <kaand> but just not working
[09:11] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Doesn't matter.
[09:12] <kaand> i recently tried recompiling alsa but that didn't fix it either
[09:12] <RyNSki> Where, in KDE?
[09:12] <strike4ce> RyNSki:  ok I do it from kynaptic and it states im up to date
[09:12] <RyNSki> I'm guessing that's where sound is broken?
[09:13] <RyNSki> What were you using before?
[09:13] <kaand> i was using kubuntu in hoary too
[09:13] <kaand> although i started out with gnome
[09:13] <RyNSki> I meant strike4ce, but... sure... OK. :)
[09:13] <kaand> this is a fresh install, though
[09:13] <strike4ce> I tried the new adept
[09:13] <RyNSki> What does the sound config say in KDE?
[09:14] <kaand> ack, too many sound problems :(
[09:14] <RyNSki> Look under hardware someplace.
[09:15] <strike4ce> RyNSki: what is residual config files?
[09:15] <strike4ce> !residual
[09:15] <ubotu> strike4ce: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:15] <strike4ce> lol
[09:16] <strike4ce> RyNSki: Why does firefox in the address bar it looks really small?
[09:16] <_andrea> Error - Konqueror: Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one / Can't Init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one / No usable video driver found! (xvimagesink)
[09:18] <_andrea> !alsasink
[09:18] <ubotu> _andrea: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:19] <strike4ce> RyNSki: Why does firefox in the address bar it looks really small?
[09:23] <RyNSki> Sorry.
[09:23] <RyNSki> I was AFK.
[09:24] <RyNSki> I dunno... looks fine to me.
[09:24] <RyNSki> And I dunno what residual configs it's talking about.
[09:24] <RyNSki> I mean, it is small... but...
[09:25] <strike4ce> ok what about the Firefox?  The address bar looks really small
[09:26] <RyNSki> Didn't I just say "looks fine to me, I dunno, it's small, but..."
[09:26] <RyNSki> Pretty sure. :)
[09:28] <strike4ce> fonts are all different then windows version
[09:28] <shogouki> RyNSki: thats women say to me everytime
[09:28] <strike4ce> lol
[09:29] <RyNSki> LOL
[09:29] <RyNSki> Poor guy.
[09:30] <shogouki> strike4ce: are you talking about url bar ?
[09:32] <RyNSki> AH, I remembered what I want Java for.
[09:33] <RyNSki> irate.
[09:33] <shogouki> you may need it for ooo2 too
[09:37] <strike4ce> shogouki:  YES!
[09:37] <strike4ce> 0002?
[09:38] <shogouki> strike4ce: maybe you can set its size by putting a line in userchrome.css
[09:38] <shogouki> Ooo2
[09:38] <kaand> i wonder if i should just do a fresh install of hoary, then dist-upgrade to breezy
[09:39] <kaand> this sound thing is pissing me off
[09:39] <strike4ce> shogouki:  How do i access chrome?
[09:39] <_andrea> Error - Konqueror: Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one / Can't Init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one / No usable video driver found! (xvimagesink)
[09:40] <_andrea> help?
[09:40] <strike4ce> the fonts therev is no times new roman or arial, or courier new
[09:41] <strike4ce> shogouki: how do i get to chrome?
[09:41] <shogouki> strike4ce: dont remember, search userchrome on google, and put #urlbar{width:400px !important} in it, restart firefox and tell me if it works
[09:42] <_andrea> i need my windows fonts too
[09:42] <_andrea> msttcorefonts
[09:42] <_andrea> but i cant find it
[09:44] <strike4ce> shogouki:  nope didnt work
[09:45] <shogouki> strike4ce: and with *{background:red  !important} ?
[09:45] <strike4ce> shogouki: lol
[09:45] <shogouki> try
[09:47] <strike4ce> shogouki:  does nothing
[09:47] <shogouki> you have a pb with your file, try to fix it
[09:48] <strike4ce> pb?
[09:50] <_andrea> i cant access my windows drives
[09:50] <_andrea> help!
[09:50] <aftertaf> !windowsdrives
[09:50] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:52] <fatejudger1> is dist-upgrade and installing the new breezy iso the same thing?
[09:52] <fatejudger1> or is dist-upgrade more cluttered
[09:52] <fatejudger1> I have the CD, so I can do either
[09:54] <_andrea> i installed breezy from scratch...but i think out-of-the-box stuff was smoother on Hoary
[09:54] <_andrea> i'm having loads of troubles setting my system up :(
[09:55] <_andreas> Hi, is there a bug with usplash and vga=791?
[10:01] <aftertaf> fatejudger1, same thing, unless newer pkgs on repository...
[10:01] <_andreas> Hi, is there a bug with usplash and vga=791?
[10:02] <_labkom> oh my god
[10:03] <_labkom> please help meeee
[10:08] <Toma-> _labkom: whats the problem?
[10:08] <Toma-> _labkom_: whats the problem?
[10:10] <xxenon> do you think I could backup my .kde , install 5.10 and restore it ? (Im using KDE 3.4.2 now)
[10:11] <somez> guys I have a terrible problem after upgrading to kubuntu 5.10
[10:11] <somez> my X won't start anymore :-(
[10:11] <somez> and I don't know what to do now
[10:11] <platoali> i had the same problem 
[10:12] <platoali> my x does not start
[10:12] <somez> I added the kubuntu cdrom via synaptic
[10:12] <hornsby> do apt-get upgrade again
[10:12] <somez> and installed the packages
[10:12] <_andrea> do u use nvidia?
[10:12] <platoali> i think you should do sudo apt-get install xserver-core 
[10:12] <_andrea> somez: do u use an nvidia card?
[10:12] <hornsby> sometimes it get stuck during upgrade
[10:12] <somez> hornsby, apt-get upgrade finds no repository :-
[10:12] <platoali> an couple of other packages
[10:12] <platoali> that related to some x font 
[10:12] <somez> _andrea, ati, but I changed back my driver to ati in xorg conf
[10:12] <somez> no effect
[10:13] <_andrea> try vesa
[10:13] <somez> platoali, I get some kind of error like that too
[10:13] <somez> _andrea, ok
[10:13] <_andrea> if vesa works
[10:13] <hornsby> somez, what is your sources.list look like ?
[10:13] <_andrea> then install ati driver from repository
[10:13] <somez> hornsby, it contains the hoary repositoris
[10:14] <platoali> somez: i've fixed it with the install ing some xserver-core package
[10:14] <somez> how did you install them?
[10:14] <hornsby> and you can't  hit them right 
[10:14] <somez> yes
[10:14] <somez> my internet connection is also not working
[10:14] <somez> don't know why
[10:15] <platoali> somez: and sudo apt-get install xfont-base
[10:15] <hornsby> did you try restarting the computer itself ? or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[10:15] <somez> yes i restarted the computer
[10:15] <platoali> somez: sorry sudo apt-get install xfonts-base
[10:16] <somez> it don't find the package
[10:17] <platoali> which one?
[10:17] <platoali> xfonts-base
[10:17] <platoali> ?
[10:17] <somez> yes
[10:18] <platoali> I've download them from the net
[10:18] <platoali> this system is an upgrade
[10:18] <somez> i have it on the cd
[10:18] <somez> my net is not working
[10:18] <nxv_> whats wrong with kaffeine? i can scan for dvbt tv stations but they remain grey an i cant use them 
[10:19] <hornsby> somez, for x trouble try : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:19] <somez> I tried it, no effect
[10:20] <hornsby> what is the error message when you type xstart in the console ?
[10:20] <platoali> try to install these packages: x-window-system-core
[10:20] <platoali> and xfonts-base
[10:20] <somez> how can I add the install cd to the repos?
[10:21] <hornsby> somez, just to be sure, when you upgraded, you changed the repositories and did dist-upgrade right ?
[10:21] <somez> I only added the install cd to the repos
[10:21] <somez> but the wiki says after rebooting, I must add the install cd again
[10:23] <somez> I installed those two packags
[10:23] <hornsby> somez, do you have any error message to make the task easier ??
[10:23] <somez> but X won't start
[10:23] <somez> yes, wait a sec
[10:23] <somez> could not open default font "dixed"
[10:23] <somez> fixed
[10:23] <somez> it says my font path must be wrong
[10:24] <somez> or the fonts are not installed
[10:24] <hornsby> seems like you should regenerate the fonts
[10:24] <somez> great, how can I do that?
[10:24] <hornsby> somez, i don't remember, i check  it :)
[10:25] <somez> ok, thanks :-
[10:25] <robin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyReleaseComments <= interesting, and true.
[10:26] <hornsby> did you try installing xfonts-base and xfonts-utils
[10:26] <hornsby> ?
[10:26] <somez> only base
[10:26] <hornsby> ok
[10:26] <hornsby> and xserver-common too ?
[10:26] <somez> I installed the utils too
[10:26] <somez> I must do them manually with dpkg, because my install cd is not in the sources.lst
[10:27] <robin_2> What is the short-cut to get in the google search box in konqueror (like ctrl+k does in firefox) ?
[10:28] <Wes> hi
[10:28] <somez> the problem is, that X doesn't find the default font
[10:28] <somez> how can I solve this?
[10:29] <hornsby> somez, change the font lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from:
[10:29] <hornsby> 
[10:29] <hornsby>  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/*
[10:29] <hornsby> 
[10:29] <hornsby>  to
[10:29] <hornsby> 
[10:29] <hornsby>  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/*
[10:29] <somez> ok
[10:29] <Wes> i just got my tv tuner card working and i cant figure out how to get the audio working
[10:30] <Wes> the tv card outputs to my input on my sound card
[10:30] <somez> hornsby, my xorg.conf already has these lines
[10:30] <Wes> but nothing i have tried so far makes it work
[10:30] <somez> :-(
[10:30] <somez> maybe I must install a specifyc font package_
[10:31] <somez> but wich one?
[10:31] <platoali> did you install xfonts-base
[10:31] <somez> yes
[10:32] <hornsby> somez,  what does the section "Files" look like in your xorg.conf ?
[10:32] <somez> rgppath
[10:32] <somez> some fonts path
[10:32] <somez> and that is all
[10:33] <somez> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
[10:33] <somez> etc
[10:33] <hornsby> somez, check that link, you might find something usefull there, by the end of the post : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35143.html
[10:34] <somez> ok thanks
[10:35] <Wes> does anyone know what i would have to do to get the audio input on an nforce2 chipset to work?
[10:38] <hornsby> somez, try that apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base
[10:39] <hornsby> somez, and then /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:40] <somez> ok, I solved the problem
[10:40] <somez> the fonts were on a wrong place
[10:41] <somez> so I copied them according to xorg.conf
[10:42] <somez> thanks for the help guys
[10:42] <hornsby> somez, instead of moving, create symbolic links, but glad you solved it
[10:45] <cave> Hello again... Just completed installation :)
[10:45] <quby> please help! I have an integrated nvidia nforc2 soundstorm soundcard, the sub and the center don't work! any idea?
[10:47] <robin_2> hmm synaptic give the following error:
[10:47] <robin_2> W: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:47] <robin_2> what does it mean ?
[10:47] <_sam> Is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop now if I have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:47] <crimsun> _sam: it's always safe. You just might find it unbearable later.
[10:48] <hornsby> ubuntu-destop is a meta package, safe to remove
[10:48] <_sam> So removing a meta package won't remove the packages that it "links" to?
[10:48] <hornsby> nop
[10:49] <_sam> I see
[10:49] <cave> Can anyone help me, how do i mount my hard drives?
[10:51] <robin_2> cave: what kind of partition windows ntfs ?
[10:51] <cave> i got one fat32  (on the same hard disk, different partition) and a NTFS on a sepparate hard disk
[10:52] <robin_2> cave you know which device file ? (/dev/hda etc.. ) 
[10:53] <cave> Win fat32 is HDA1, Kubuntu is HDA2, WIn NTFS is HDB
[10:53] <robin_2> you could add this to /etc/fstab (replace /dev/hda5 with the correct ntfs partition) /dev/hda5       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=000       0       0
[10:54] <somez_> re all
[10:54] <somez_> I have another problem, my ethernet card is not working anymore
[10:54] <robin_2> It will mount the ntfs partition automatically evertime you reboot, and every user got read permission on it.
[10:54] <somez_> and I cant bring up eth1
[10:54] <somez_> because it says no such device
[10:54] <cave> eek... no permission to read hda5
[10:54] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:54] <somez_> how can I solve this?
[10:54] <robin_2> you can't write (yet) to hda5
[10:55] <elvirolo> how do i enable musicbrainz support in amarok ?
[10:55] <robin_2> Cave eh ntfs i mean.
[10:55] <hornsby> somez_, ifconfig ??
[10:55] <robin_2> cave yes of course you got read permission, it is umask..
[10:55] <somez_> ifconfig eth1 won't work
[10:56] <hornsby> is the device eth1 ??
[10:56] <cave> ok i got the file open
[10:56] <somez_> yes
[10:56] <hornsby> sometimes it get mixed up during upgrade 
[10:56] <cave> will i get kicked for flooding if i paste it to the channel? :P
[10:56] <somez_> my desktop has tow ethernet cards
[10:56] <robin_2> Cave yes see topic
[10:56] <somez_> and it worked on hoary
[10:56] <cave> ok
[10:56] <somez_> now I can only bring up eth0
[10:56] <robin_2> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ <= paste here
[10:57] <hornsby> did you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:57] <somez_> yes
[10:57] <hornsby> does it look ok ?
[10:57] <somez_> auto eth1 inet dhcp
[10:57] <elvirolo> please, ideas anyone ?
[10:57] <somez_> I have a broadband router here
[10:57] <somez_> wich runs a dhcp
[10:57] <hornsby> ok
[10:57] <robin_2> elvirolo: what'sup
[10:57] <somez_> so it should work, but the problem is that I can't bring eht1 up
[10:58] <elvirolo> i'd like to hace musicbrainz support in amarok
[10:58] <somez_> it says i dont have such a device
[10:58] <cave> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394246
[10:58] <Wes> is audio input passed to the output by default? (i.e. mic, line in, etc)
[10:58] <hornsby> if you put down eth0, does eth1 comes up ?
[10:58] <somez_> but according to lspci, the system finds my two ethernet cards
[10:58] <somez_> i try that
[10:59] <somez_> no
[10:59] <hornsby> maybe, eth1 is not enabled. Go to KDE ->settings -> network settings -> admin mode -> enable eth1
[10:59] <somez_> ok
[11:00] <robin_2> cave yes ? well add the rule I pasted here :)
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about repositories
[11:01] <robin_2> cave http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394251
[11:01] <neptune3k> for those interested : Yakuake has been updated
[11:02] <cave> oh, add a new line?
[11:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about hoary-extras
[11:02] <cave> i tought i was supposed to replace the other line
[11:02] <robin_2> neptune3k: I just installed it from apt.. great program !
[11:03] <somez_> hmm strange
[11:03] <somez_> I have eth2
[11:03] <somez_> instead of eth1
[11:03] <somez_> now I'm enabling it
[11:03] <somez_> it takes time
[11:03] <cave> cant save the file
[11:04] <cocozz> hi
[11:04] <cocozz> ur distro rocks ;-)
[11:04] <cave> should have logged on as root right? ;/
[11:04] <hornsby> somez_, any good ?
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about java
[11:05] <robin_2> elvirolo: hmm strange, I can't see the musicbrainz support anymore.
[11:05] <hornsby> Kamping_Kaiser, tell me about google
[11:05] <elvirolo> i think one has to recompile a library
[11:06] <robin_2> elvirolo: RC1 did have musicbrainz, they probably disabled it for some reason.
[11:06] <somez_> hornsby, yes
[11:06] <somez_> th enet is working
[11:06] <elvirolo> robin_2: hmm... never worked for me
[11:07] <somez_> I think the system swtiched the name of the interfaces
[11:07] <elvirolo> are we talking about mp3's ?
[11:07] <somez_> eth0 became eth2 and eth1 became eth0
[11:07] <somez_> so the internt now comes via eth0
[11:07] <hornsby> that happens during upgrades
[11:07] <somez_> and my eth1 disappeared
[11:07] <somez_> now it's named eth2
[11:07] <somez_> now I must change my sources.lst to the breezy repos
[11:07] <somez_> thank you very very much for your help
[11:08] <robin_2> elvirolo: at least I thought I saw something of musicbrainz in RC1, but I never used it though.
[11:08] <hornsby> you can fixe this by editing a file with corresponding mac address and interface, i can't remember the name, i look for it
[11:09] <somez_> how should I edit my repository list to represent the breezy sources?
[11:09] <hornsby> yes
[11:10] <elvirolo> uh my scanner doesn't work EITHER
[11:10] <elvirolo> i'm so fed up
[11:10] <hornsby> somez_, hoary becomes breezy
[11:11] <elvirolo> i've spent HOURS filing bug reports and now musicbrainz doesn't work, my printer doesn't work, my scanner doesn't work (although they both did under hoary) and my webcam doesn't work out of the box
[11:11] <somez_> ok thanks
[11:11] <robin_2> elvirolo: true, there a lot of bugs, including some new ones reintroduced after RC1, so this release is a little bit fucked up.
[11:12] <_sam> I'm already considering having to re-install the whole thing.
[11:12] <cave> wtf i cant log on as root >_>
[11:13] <robin_2> elvirolo: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyReleaseComments <= I think there should be a sub release to fix all thos eproblems.
[11:13] <robin_2> !root
[11:13] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:13] <robin_2> !sudo
[11:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:14] <xuniL_> gett a error while i ./configure can you help?
[11:14] <xuniL_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:14] <xuniL_> See `config.log' for more detail
[11:15] <xuniL_> ?
[11:16] <somez_> this is strange
[11:16] <somez_> I did a dist-upgrade again, with breezy sources
[11:16] <somez_> and it removed some packages
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about backports
[11:16] <somez_> I don't know why
[11:17] <hornsby> somez_, why a dist-upgarde if you already had breezy ?
[11:17] <somez_> because I wanted to be sure
[11:17] <hornsby> sudo apt-get update should have been enought
[11:17] <somez_> and you see, I still have some packages to install
[11:20] <robin_2> anyone got the kio_ipodslave working ?
[11:21] <cave> " Applications --> System Tools --> Run as different user." where is that menu?
[11:22] <cave> 6:20am....maybe ijust need to get some sleep and then it wont be so hard anymore :)
[11:22] <elvirolo> does anyone use kooka ?
[11:22] <robin_2> elvirolo: yes
[11:22] <elvirolo> robin_2: could youn tell me where to find it in the menu ?
[11:23] <robin_2> within the graphics sub-menu
[11:24] <elvirolo> uuuuh of course i don't have it
[11:24] <elvirolo> although kooka is installed
[11:26] <robin_2> elvirolo: I thought it was installed by default.
[11:26] <elvirolo> maybe it is
[11:26] <robin_2> elvirolo: maybe relogin.
[11:26] <elvirolo> anyway it's not in the menu
[11:26] <elvirolo> i've already tried that
[11:34] <mustard5> how do you check your keyboard layout in KDE?
[11:39] <robin_2> !kswap.h
[11:39] <ubotu> robin_2: I give up, what is it?
[11:39] <robin_2> ubotu: it is missing.
[11:39] <ubotu> robin_2: I think you lost me on that one
[11:40] <tenco> still cant print with breezy. cupsd always tells me about false perms of /dev/lp0
[11:41] <tenco> but how can i change them permanently, lp0 is created again on each boot
[11:43] <xuniL_> can someone help me this this error... then i am compileing:
[11:43] <xuniL_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:44] <xuniL_> =
[11:44] <hornsby> somez_, the assign persistents names to network interfaces, edit /etc/iftab file
[11:44] <xuniL_> ?
[11:44] <robin_2> xuniL_: are you using the right compiler ?
[11:44] <robin_2> xuniL_: for the same architecture.
[11:44] <robin_2> xuniL_: as your CPU
[11:45] <xuniL_> dunno
[11:45] <xuniL_> dont know
[11:45] <robin_2> xuniL_: the error discription is not specific enough to give you a solution. 
[11:46] <xuniL_> paste full ./configure?
[11:46] <robin_2> xuniL_: not here :)
[11:46] <xuniL_> bastebin.com
[11:46] <robin_2> xuniL_: k
[11:47] <xuniL_> http://pastebin.com/394283
[11:48] <gibarian> So...is the media:/ problem going to be solved in the near future?
[11:48] <xuniL_> any clue robin_2
[11:49] <robin_2> xuniL_: I will take a look.
[11:49] <xuniL_> k
[11:49] <hornsby> gibarian, it work for me :S
[11:49] <hornsby> did you do fresh install ??
[11:49] <robin_2> gibarian: I hope so, it is *** problem.
[11:50] <robin_2> when I connect my ipod, I even get 4 error windows in konqueror.. :/
[11:50] <hornsby> gibarian, some people like me don't have the problem. I did an upgrade from Hoary, not a fresh install
[11:50] <robin_2> xuniL_: hmm, do you have gcc installed ?
[11:50] <xuniL_> yes...
[11:50] <robin_2> hornsby: I did a fresh install, BUT the RC1 didn't have the problem.
[11:50] <xuniL_> gcc 4.0
[11:51] <xuniL_> and g++
[11:51] <hornsby> it should be fixed soon, bugzilla report !!
[11:51] <robin_2> xuniL_: hmm, try to create a simple C program, and compile it with gcc. 
[11:52] <xuniL_> like what?
[11:52] <robin_2> xuniL_: I can't help you further, sry.
[11:52] <xuniL_> k np
[11:52] <robin_2> xuniL_: like something you write for yourself ;) helloworld will be just fine.
[11:52] <hornsby> xuniL_, did you try the direct command with gcc, without configure ?
[11:53] <xuniL_> no..
[11:53] <hornsby> maybe you should
[11:53] <hornsby> xuniL_, any make file ??
[11:53] <xuniL_> yes
[11:54] <xuniL_> i will try with them..
[11:54] <hornsby>  yep 
[11:54] <spiral> hi
[11:59] <Wes> hi spiral 
[12:01] <redline> hi .. anybody know who to get wine working ? 
[12:01] <gibarian> hornsby: Well, me too. And it's still borked.
[12:02] <hornsby> gibarian, weirdo
[12:02] <gibarian> hornsby: what? I'm a weirdo? ha, j/k
[12:02] <redline> can sombody het me with wine ? plz add my msn ---------> scampi_21@hotmail.com
[12:02] <hornsby> gibarian, noo, the proble
[12:03] <gibarian> hornsby: well, the funny thing is, the media stuff still worked when I upgraded to the RC, but once I had installed the proper breezy packets, it was borked
[12:03] <gibarian> and kaffeine is terribly broken...
[12:03] <hornsby> gibarian, what I did after upgrading was to remove the ./kde directory after saving my emails of course, since that, no problems
[12:04] <hornsby> but I'm not sure if that is the good fix
[12:04] <gibarian> hornsby: why would you want to do that? Didn't that wipe out all you preferences, settings, etc.?
[12:04] <hornsby> sure it did
[12:05] <gibarian> well, that's no solution for me then :)
[12:05] <hornsby> i thought so :)
[12:05] <hornsby> then let's hope it will be fixed soon
[12:06] <hornsby> vote for the bug in bugzilla if you want it to be fixed asap
[12:07] <gibarian> well, some guy yesterday said it's point 2 on the to be fixed list...so I'm positive it'll sooner or later work out
[12:07] <gibarian> by the way, anyone else get a FATAL ext2 module not found error when booting with the new kernel?
[12:11] <gibarian> alright, tought so...
[12:20] <quby> anybody can help me? i have integrated soundcard and the subwoofer dond'work
[12:20] <atle> hello, I have, and just installed on my laptop. A HP NX7010. So far So Good
[12:21] <puckman> I downloaded the preview release last week
[12:21] <puckman> but found several issues so gave up on it
[12:21] <puckman> has that pesky no admin bug been fixed?
[12:21] <atle> I tried that one, but it was kind of buggy for me
[12:22] <puckman> Ah, and the final release is better?
[12:22] <quby> i have read meny forums but i can't do the sound
[12:22] <atle> so far yes
[12:22] <puckman> cool
[12:22] <Gingillo> Hi, i need help with installing kubuntu
[12:22] <atle> hehe
[12:22] <puckman> I have been using ubuntu for ages
[12:23] <puckman> mostly because people said gnome is better
[12:23] <puckman> but I like kde a lot more
[12:23] <atle> I don't like gnome
[12:23] <atle> but that's just me
[12:23] <puckman> Well downloading amarok sort of made my mind up
[12:24] <puckman> sound apps for ubuntu suck
[12:24] <puckman> amarok ... well rocks.
[12:24] <atle> but i'm a neewbi, so what do i know :-)
[12:24] <puckman> Hey same here
[12:24] <Gingillo> The problem is: When i try to install the NEW release of kubuntu, The installation goes, i push enter, and then appears the message "Unpacking linux...OK  Building kernel, i waited for hours, and it don't goes on, wath must i do?"
[12:25] <atle> is this on a empty drive, or are you trying to upgrade?
[12:25] <_sam> I wish they released itunes for linux.
[12:26] <puckman> wont happen for a long time
[12:26] <_sam> Yeah, I don't really think so either.
[12:26] <Gingillo> IS an empity drive, i frist tryed to install kubuntu, but now i'm on mandrake
[12:26] <_sam> Well, I could switch to osx.
[12:27] <puckman> lol
[12:27] <puckman> i just switched from osx to linux
[12:27] <puckman> been using mac's since 85
[12:27] <puckman> even worked at apple for a while
[12:27] <_sam> Oh, why did you switch then?
[12:28] <_sam> Wanna save money?
[12:28] <puckman> tired of osx
[12:28] <Gingillo> So, who can help me??
[12:28] <puckman> I'm an it manager and i ave learned more about osx by using linux
[12:29] <puckman> because on linux you are forced to dive under the hood so to say
[12:29] <puckman> on the mac everything works out of the box so you dont learn anything new
[12:29] <Gingillo> Hey!! Is this an help channel or not? lol
[12:30] <inc|freaky> what is the best virus-scanner for linux which also fixes found viruses?
[12:32] <Wes> can you rephrase the question Gingillo ?
[12:32] <Wes> are you saying the kernel doesnt even load?
[12:34] <puckman> This is a help channel?
[12:34] <puckman> I thought it was just a hang out
[12:35] <jsubl2> Gingillo: at the boot screen try hitting the F2 key and reading about the boot options.. might have to try booting with acpi=off or something
[12:36] <Gingillo> The problem is: When i try to install the NEW release of kubuntu, The installation goes, i push enter, and then appears the message "Unpacking linux...OK  Building kernel, i waited for hours, and it don't goes on, wath must i do?"
[12:36] <Firetech> hmm
[12:36] <Gingillo> sorry i went to lunch
[12:36] <jsubl2> Gingillo: at the boot screen try hitting the F2 key and reading about the boot options.. might have to try booting with acpi=off or something
[12:36] <Gingillo> mmh Ok.. why? :P
[12:36] <puckman> i'm with jsubl2 on that
[12:36] <puckman> on my thinkpad i had to run the installer as save vga
[12:36] <puckman> or something like that
[12:37] <jsubl2> Gingillo: could be a kernel issue or something and that would help narrow it down
[12:37] <Firetech> I've upgraded to breezy, but forgot to install the kubuntu-desktop package before I did it (I don't want anacron and powernowd), now I can't install kubuntu-desktop because ksystemlog depends on the wrong packages... What to do?
[12:37] <Firetech> *install
[12:40] <Firetech> ksystemlog depends on kdelibs4 (should be kdelibs4c2) and libqt3c102-mt (should be libqt3-mt)
[12:47] <Firetech> hmm, my problems were based on a third party repo (dinton)
[12:52] <atle> where do i get codecs/packs to view divx/xvid?
[12:53] <jsubl2> i got mine at http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[12:54] <atle> thx
[12:56] <Somez> re everyone!
[12:56] <Somez> I'm experiencing a very strange bug using kmail...
[12:57] <Somez> after breezy upgrade
[12:57] <Tm_T> go on
[12:57] <elvirolo> hi all
[12:57] <Somez> when I try to download the mails from pop3 server, it says: couldn't start this process: pop3
[12:57] <Somez> actually this is just the english translation of the error msg
[12:57] <Somez> the account settings are ok in kmail
[12:58] <elvirolo> does anyone use ktabedit here ?
[12:58] <asraniel> why does konqueror always crash if there is a video or so on a webpage where we dont have the codec?
[12:58] <Gingillo> Hi, i need help.. :\
[12:58] <elvirolo> me too
[12:59] <Gingillo> When i try to install I see this words "Unpacking linux...OK Building kernel" And than nothing.. i waited for hours
[01:03] <Gingillo> Can i get help?
[01:04] <jairbubbles> any pb with amarok, mine is not working anymore !
[01:06] <peixoto> hi all. Just upgraded to Breezy, but I cant find the launchpad integration. Package "launchpad-integration" is installed, but nothing appears in the menu. Is it gnome only ? :-(
[01:07] <pointwood> I could imagine it was
[01:09] <peixoto> jairbbbles, my amarokis still working perfectly (even after the upgrade). What are your symptoms ? When did it stop working (after some update in your system) ?
[01:09] <gibarian> jairbubbles: problem with gstreamer?
[01:10] <_atle> i think i'll try vlc
[01:11] <jairbubbles> gibarian: i don't know it just can't launch
[01:12] <Somez> guys what is this? -> "kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave :"
[01:12] <gibarian> jairbubbles: what does it say? tried running from konsole?
[01:12] <Somez> that's the error from kmail
[01:12] <Somez> it says, it couldn't creat an io rubprocess
[01:12] <jairbubbles> amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[01:12] <Somez> subprocess
[01:13] <_atle> and we have vlc working, this is great. :-)
[01:18] <_shay> hy all 
[01:18] <jairbubbles> gibarian: i'm trying to reinstall to see what happens
[01:30] <pipoun> hey! I've upgraded to breezy and I don't find k3b anymore
[01:30] <pipoun> Is it normal?
[01:32] <omar> Where can i get dc++ client for my kubuntu ?
[01:40] <xuniL_> where are the source.list?
[01:40] <xuniL_> found?
[01:41] <Firetech> isn't there an update notifier for kubuntu?
[01:42] <xuniL_> found it
[01:43] <brosioz> how could i permit to my user alex to write in /var/www ?
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> brosioz: add them to a relevent group, or change the perms on varwww
[01:46] <brosioz> how
[01:46] <brosioz> adduser alex var-www
[01:47] <brosioz> not works
[01:59] <omar> How can i take a print screen ?
[02:12] <shampoo> Hi everyone
[02:13] <shampoo> When I log into my Kubuntu Breezy laptop, I have to enable the PCM sound in Volume Control. When I log out, it sets itself back to off.. Anyway to get it to save its settings ?
[02:36] <ep> Some packges I install do not get added to the K menu.  Anything I can do?  Something to install to get the Debian submenu working?  
[02:50] <xxenon_> hello, I just installed 5.10
[02:50] <xxenon_> but I got problems setting up my nvidia card. I get an Input/Output error on /dev/nvidia0
[02:57] <manel> hola a tod@s
[02:57] <manel> alguien altruista que me pueda echar una mano?
[02:59] <CellarDoor> hi folks
[02:59] <manel> hi everybody
[02:59] <manel> sorry
[03:00] <manel> I am Spanish and I don't see that this site is International
[03:00] <manel> I need help?
[03:01] <manel> I can not play MP3 on my AMAROK and my KAFFEINNE
[03:01] <manel> someone can help me?
[03:01] <CellarDoor> hmm
[03:01] <mrmarcel> i have the same problem ^^
[03:05] <CellarDoor> do I need to add new repos to update to breezy ?
[03:05] <manel> I play the play list that it in amarok perfectly
[03:06] <CellarDoor> no problems with mp3's here
[03:06] <shiv> How do I adjust firefox fonts all are so small I am not able to fix the toolbar fonts plz help
[03:06] <manel> i have breezy
[03:07] <CellarDoor> I haven't upgraded yet
[03:07] <manel> yes I am upgaded
[03:08] <manel> I instaled all the Stremer packages
[03:14] <CellarDoor> amarok and kaffeine now use gstreamer by default it seems
[03:16] <CellarDoor> uhm... do I need to add any new repositories to my sources list to upgrade to breezy ?
[03:17] <ep> What category is it under or what is the name of KDE's calculator?  
[03:17] <CellarDoor> utilities
[03:18] <CellarDoor> Kcalc
[03:18] <Mez> ep: if you want a simple calculator, use xcalc
[03:19] <NSK> KMenu->Utilities->Calculator
[03:19] <seaLne> !alternatives java
[03:19] <ubotu> Wish i knew, seaLne
[03:19] <seaLne> !alternatives
[03:19] <ubotu> seaLne: What?
[03:20] <seaLne> !update-alternatives
[03:20] <ubotu> seaLne: What?
[03:20] <seaLne> ubotu: ok i'll google instead :P
[03:20] <ubotu> seaLne: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:23] <omar> Where can i get c++ compiler
[03:23] <ep> I'll check out xcalc Mez, thanks
[03:23] <omar> or somthink cc
[03:23] <NSK> gcc
[03:23] <omar> Jamm
[03:23] <omar> YEs
[03:23] <omar> http://skype.com/products/skype/linux/
[03:23] <NSK> http://gcc.gnu.org
[03:23] <omar> wo
[03:24] <omar> NSK i am from iceland can you gife me download link on gcc please
[03:25] <NSK> wait
[03:26] <omar> np
[03:27] <[Pixels] > i just have a quick question, if anyone wouldnt mind trying to give me an answer :)
[03:27] <CellarDoor> hello !
[03:27] <[Pixels] > at the moment I run debian sid (unstable) and I use the 2.4 kernel, due to hotplug giving problems w/ a 2.6 kernel
[03:27] <manel> Cellar I can send for you my sources.list 
[03:27] <[Pixels] > is there anyway to run kubuntu with a 2.4 kernel :)
[03:28] <CellarDoor> ok thanks manel
[03:28] <manel> do you need
[03:28] <manel> Callar
[03:28] <CellarDoor> [Pixels] : hmm sounds like alot of fiddling around
[03:28] <NSK> omar: what computer do you have? i386, i686, or x86_64 ?
[03:28] <omar> i386
[03:28] <ep> What's the fix for konsole's use of non-fixed width fonts, my fonts look bad even after I customize em.
[03:28] <[Pixels] > the instance of hotplugging that causes the kernel failure is pci
[03:28] <kyaneos> hi
[03:28] <CellarDoor> manel: I just want to see If I need to update my sources list to upgrade to breezy
[03:29] <manel> yes
[03:29] <manel> if you have hoary
[03:29] <[Pixels] > do you know if the kernel kubuntu comes with default, has maximum pci modules enabled?
[03:29] <manel> you need to change your sources,list
[03:29] <CellarDoor> ah rite
[03:29] <NSK> here I found a precompiled package for i686 GNU/Linux: ftp://ftp.thewrittenword.com/packages/by-name/gcc-3.4.3/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-3.4.3.rpm4.tar.Z
[03:30] <[Pixels] > use the source, its more fun :)
[03:30] <seaLne> omar: apt-get install g++
[03:30] <NSK> i686 runs on computers with PentiumII chip or newer
[03:30] <CellarDoor> [Pixels] : ah thats a bit beyond me atm
[03:30] <seaLne> NSK: there are packages strangely enough
[03:30] <[Pixels] > yes, but i686 is geared more towards p4 chips
[03:30] <[Pixels] > but will run on p2/p3/p4/celeron
[03:31] <[Pixels] > when in question, always go for the i386 package :)
[03:31] <[Pixels] > atleast thats my motto.
[03:31] <[Pixels] > CellarDoor: thanks for the help though, not many people have had my problem.
[03:32] <omar> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:32] <omar> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:32] <[Pixels] > i've bugged it on the debian bug tracking system, and most other distro's that i've tried.
[03:32] <ep> I've got AMD k7, so when I install mplayer, I should choose the 386 package instead of 686, correct?
[03:32] <CellarDoor> manel: could you please tell me what I need to change it to for a breezy upgrade ?
[03:32] <[Pixels] > omar: you need to do sudo apt-get
[03:32] <NSK> omar: login as root, type su
[03:32] <[Pixels] > or su
[03:32] <[Pixels] > or sux
[03:32] <seaLne> omar: sorry sudo apt-get install g++
[03:32] <[Pixels] > i prefer sudo/sux
[03:32] <manel> change the word HOARY for the word BREEZY
[03:33] <manel> into your sources.list
[03:33] <manel> after
[03:33] <manel> open KYNAPTIC
[03:34] <omar> work thank you :D
[03:34] <manel> upgrade the packages
[03:34] <manel> and upgrade the system
[03:34] <[Pixels] > or if you run synaptic you can edit the repository right from there.
[03:34] <[Pixels] > you will want to do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <[Pixels] > those are always fun.
[03:34] <manel> Yes PIXELS
[03:34] <[Pixels] > atleast they are on debian
[03:35] <manel> cellar want to upgrade for BREEZY
[03:35] <kyaneos> hi
[03:35] <EcksEightySix> anyone had any problem running Firefox 1.5b2 on Kubuntu Breezy (fresh install) ? it's looking for libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:35] <kyaneos> i have a problem with Kubuntu breezy
[03:35] <EcksEightySix> woops sorry... its looking for libstdc++.so.5 and I only found a libstdc++.so.6 in /usr/lib
[03:35] <Chousuke> EcksEightySix: install libstdc++5
[03:35] <[Pixels] > hopefully, kubuntu will be awesome and not cause kernel faults :)
[03:35] <kyaneos> i can not view special caracters like the sharp, etc..
[03:36] <Chousuke> EcksEightySix: or something like tha.
[03:36] <kyaneos> i have set the keyboard layout to es
[03:36] <EcksEightySix> chousuke, that won't create any conflict with libstdc++6 ?
[03:36] <[Pixels] > EcksEightySix: you need an older package
[03:36] <Chousuke> EcksEightySix: no, it won't
[03:36] <manel> kyaneos eres espaol?
[03:36] <[Pixels] > you can do a dkpg -i --force-overwrite <package name if it does
[03:37] <[Pixels] > but it shouldnt.
[03:37] <kyaneos> manel: si, del estado espanol
[03:37] <kyaneos> manel: tu tb??
[03:37] <EcksEightySix> ok, cool. thanks very much for the tip!
[03:37] <manel> si
[03:37] <Chousuke> kyaneos: manel: do not speak spanish here
[03:37] <manel> que te pasa
[03:37] <kyaneos> sorry
[03:37] <CellarDoor> ok thanks manel
[03:37] <manel> sorry CHOU
[03:37] <[Pixels] > trust me, i have to do that once or twice a day, running unstable
[03:37] <[Pixels] > :)
[03:37] <CellarDoor> I shall do that
[03:37] <Chousuke> there exists #ubuntu-es at least
[03:38] <manel> kyaneos you are available on the IRC chanel KUNBUNTU-ES
[03:38] <[Pixels] > 5.10 is breezy correct?
[03:38] <kyaneos> thank you very much
[03:38] <[CC] Punkrock> hello
[03:38] <[Pixels] > hi :)
[03:38] <[CC] Punkrock> i've got a problem...
[03:39] <EcksEightySix> [pixels] : 5.10 is breezy, yup
[03:39] <[CC] Punkrock> (as most ppl that come here probably)
[03:39] <[Pixels] > thanks.
[03:39] <[Pixels] > 1.5 hours until the .iso is done.
[03:39] <omar> Who can gife me a good link on FTP client not server ??
[03:39] <[Pixels] > then I get to test out my new burner in linux, should be a treat.
[03:39] <[CC] Punkrock> I've got the .iso on my pc
[03:39] <Tm_T> omar: konqueror ?
[03:39] <omar> Somethink
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> and i've written it on a cd as .iso
[03:40] <omar> Yes
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> but it wont boot...
[03:40] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: did you burn as an image?
[03:40] <NSK> omar: Konqueror and command-like ftp
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> i first accidentally burned it as a .iso
[03:40] <[Pixels] > did you also check the md5 checksum ?
[03:40] <Tm_T> NSK: and gftp
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> but i then extracted the .iso and burned it again
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> so i have the extracted files on a cd
[03:40] <omar> Where can i get konqueror
[03:40] <NSK> omar: also see http://kbear.sourceforge.net/
[03:40] <[Pixels] > and did you check the cd integrety?
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> fyi: i'm an absolute noob at linux...
[03:40] <NSK> another is http://kasablanca.berlios.de/
[03:41] <[CC] Punkrock> i've just started IT at school, and we're using linux
[03:41] <[Pixels] > www.linuxiso.org
[03:41] <[Pixels] > there is a guide there on the front page
[03:41] <[CC] Punkrock> thnx
[03:41] <NSK> Konqueror is in KDE, try http://www.konqueror.org/ to learn more about this program.
[03:41] <[Pixels] > on how to burn .iso's on many different systems.
[03:41] <[Pixels] > also, make sure you burn at a low speed
[03:41] <[Pixels] > like 4x or 8x
[03:41] <rodrigo> it's normal that xorg is using at least 35% of my cpu time?
[03:41] <manel> kyaneos you can see the "guia-ubuntu.org"
[03:41] <NSK> can I use DVD-RAM disks as hard drives on GNU/Linux without loading any special driver?
[03:41] <[Pixels] > rodrigo: depends on what you have running.
[03:41] <rodrigo> nothing special
[03:42] <rodrigo> just amsn
[03:42] <manel> and the site ubuntu-es.org for the problems or langueges
[03:42] <[Pixels] > then no, its not normal.
[03:42] <rodrigo> and superkaramba
[03:42] <NSK> rodrigo: my xorg doesn't use that much
[03:42] <[Pixels] > open up a console and type ps x
[03:42] <[Pixels] > see if anything tied to xorg is running
[03:42] <[Pixels] > then open up the task manager
[03:42] <[Pixels] > and double check.
[03:42] <rodrigo> I realised if I use superkaramba, xorg uses more cpu time
[03:42] <rodrigo> a lot more
[03:43] <[Pixels] > yes, karamba is a resource hog
[03:43] <rodrigo> now is using maybe 4%
[03:43] <rodrigo> with superkaramba 35-40 %
[03:43] <[Pixels] > i have 5 themes loaded
[03:43] <[Pixels] > :)
[03:43] <Tm_T> rodrigo: well, superkaramba uses cpu, and meter shows that as xorg using
[03:43] <[Pixels] > im at about 75% :)
[03:43] <rodrigo> but i don't thing is a great thing for my old laptop :(
[03:43] <[Pixels] > superkaramba is tied to xorg's resource consumption
[03:44] <Tm_T> yup
[03:44] <[Pixels] > thats why i suggested to check running processes :)
[03:44] <Tm_T> I never use superkarambe
[03:44] <omar> why can't i not do make and make install
[03:44] <Tm_T> a
[03:44] <Tm_T> torsmo <4
[03:44] <Tm_T> <3
[03:44] <[Pixels] > omar: do you have the make packages installed?
[03:44] <Tm_T> ok, now I'm dizzy enough ->
[03:44] <[CC] Punkrock> pixels: "there were 1154 errors while making sums"
[03:44] <omar> Dont kow
[03:45] <NSK> omar: type: which make
[03:45] <[Pixels] > thats not good.
[03:45] <omar> how can i install him
[03:45] <[Pixels] > lol
[03:45] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: thats from your iso ?
[03:45] <omar> I new in linux
[03:45] <[Pixels] > you may need to redownload/reburn it :(
[03:45] <omar> I am olways on fedora
[03:45] <NSK> omar: you use Kubuntu ?
[03:45] <[CC] Punkrock> i let md5summer run on the md5sum.txt file that's on my cd
[03:45] <[Pixels] > if you use fedora, you should goto their channel
[03:45] <[CC] Punkrock> and i cant really download it again, here in belgium we have download limits...
[03:45] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: you need to redownload the .iso
[03:45] <[CC] Punkrock> 10gb each 30 days
[03:46] <[Pixels] > ahh :(
[03:46] <omar> No i am using now kubuntu
[03:46] <NSK> omar: other channels you may like to join are #fedora and #linux and #linuxhelp and #redhat
[03:46] <[CC] Punkrock> btw, when i want to open it it already says:
[03:46] <[CC] Punkrock> the checksum you have selected contains one or more ASCII generated sums
[03:46] <omar> My old computer is on fedora i am now  on kubuntu
[03:46] <NSK> can Kubuntu 5.10 read DVD-RAM discs?
[03:47] <rodrigo> and what about ram usage?
[03:47] <[Pixels] > NSK debian can
[03:47] <[CC] Punkrock> and it gives an error for EVERY SINGLE ONE
[03:47] <[Pixels] > so i assume kubuntu can.
[03:47] <[CC] Punkrock> 1454 errors for 1454 sums
[03:47] <NSK> without a driver ?
[03:47] <rodrigo> I ve 448 MB ram and I'm using 410!
[03:47] <[Pixels] > hmm, that maybe a problem.
[03:47] <rodrigo> but I'm using almost nothing
[03:47] <[Pixels] > you could possibly have to build that.
[03:47] <omar> How can i install make packages ?
[03:47] <[Pixels] > omar i think if you do apt-get build-essentials
[03:48] <[Pixels] > it will grab it as a dependency
[03:48] <NSK> rodrigo: sometimes gnu/linux reserves memspace for buffers etc
[03:48] <[Pixels] > or something along that like
[03:48] <[Pixels] > you could do apt-cache search make
[03:48] <rodrigo> uf I thought kde was lighter than gnome
[03:48] <[Pixels] > that will list the packages that have make in the name/description/dependency
[03:48] <[CC] Punkrock> pixels, could it be something went wrong with the extraction?
[03:48] <omar> Pixels, Dont work
[03:48] <[CC] Punkrock> and that the downloaded iso is correct?
[03:49] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: it just could've been downloaded badly.
[03:49] <[Pixels] > did you use a download manager?
[03:49] <[CC] Punkrock> nope
[03:49] <[CC] Punkrock> just downloaded it with firefox
[03:49] <[CC] Punkrock> yesterday
[03:49] <[Pixels] > omar: do apt-cache search make
[03:49] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: i dunno, check the forums.
[03:49] <NSK> rodrigo: no but KDE offers many more features than gnome
[03:50] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: maybe someone can offer some assistance. there was a guide on there on how to boot from windows, to install kubuntu
[03:50] <[Pixels] > using grub-dos
[03:50] <[Pixels] > and some simple scripts.
[03:50] <omar> It found MUTS
[03:50] <[Pixels] > you could possibly try that..
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> on linuxiso.org?
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> or kubuntu site?
[03:50] <[Pixels] > kubuntu forums.
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> k
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> thnx
[03:50] <[Pixels] > i read about it today while browsing.
[03:50] <[Pixels] > i check a distro out before I try it :)
[03:51] <[Pixels] > plus I'm familiar with debian, so its not a big step up.
[03:51] <omar> Pixels, this search found muths
[03:51] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm kinda obligated to use kubuntu
[03:51] <[CC] Punkrock> cuz its the same distro we have in school
[03:51] <[CC] Punkrock> and i know shit about linux
[03:51] <[Pixels] > omar: let me check ral quick.
[03:51] <[Pixels] > ral = real
[03:51] <omar> how
[03:52] <[Pixels] > holy hell, thats alot of packages
[03:52] <[Pixels] > make - The GNU version of the "make" utility.
[03:52] <[Pixels] > try apt-get install make
[03:52] <[Pixels] > make should install the other dependencies as well.
[03:53] <[Pixels] > wow, i offer alot of support to a distro i havent used yet :P
[03:53] <[Pixels] > im like a god in here
[03:53] <[Pixels] > j/k
[03:54] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ sudo apt-get install make
[03:54] <omar> Reading package lists... Done
[03:54] <omar> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:54] <omar> make is already the newest version.
[03:54] <omar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:54] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ make
[03:54] <omar> This came
[03:54] <[Pixels] > okay, its already installed then
[03:54] <omar> and see
[03:54] <[Pixels] > what happens when you type make?
[03:54] <[Pixels] > did you do ./configure first ?
[03:54] <[Pixels] > before doing the make 
[03:54] <omar> yes
[03:55] <omar> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:55] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$  
[03:55] <[Pixels] > hmm
[03:55] <[Pixels] > are you in the right directory ?
[03:55] <omar> Yes
[03:55] <[Pixels] > what are you trying to compile ?
[03:55] <_johan> anyone else having problems getting cedega to compile correctly using the WineCVS.sh-script?
[03:55] <omar> gFTP
[03:55] <[Pixels] > _johan
[03:55] <bdmp> [CC] Punkrock, What kind of school do you go to?
[03:55] <_johan> yes
[03:55] <[Pixels] > there is a problem with newer distro's
[03:55] <hater2win> hey all
[03:56] <NSK> omar: cd to the dir, type ./configure && make && make install
[03:56] <[Pixels] > anything over gcc 3.2 wont compile it
[03:56] <[Pixels] > there is a work around
[03:56] <[Pixels] > let me find it real quick
[03:56] <_johan> okay. thanks a lot
[03:56] <[Pixels] > i ran into the same problem
[03:56] <[Pixels] > gotta find the site again
[03:56] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm at my first year of profesional bachelor Information Technologies at the Xios School in Diepenbeek,Belgium
[03:56] <omar> I am compile kbear-3.0alpha1b-1.src.tar.bz2
[03:56] <bdmp> Wow, thats cool
[03:56] <bdmp> Just curios
[03:56] <[CC] Punkrock> lol
[03:56] <_johan> Pixels: if you tell me what you searched for, I can do that myself. I'm sure you've got funnier things to do
[03:57] <bdmp> I wish I had studied computers in school
[03:57] <[CC] Punkrock> its only 25mins (bus) from my place, and i really wanted to go into the IT world
[03:57] <[CC] Punkrock> but i cant seem to find what you sent me looking for pixels
[03:57] <[Pixels] > im waiting for a .iso to download
[03:57] <[Pixels] > i got time :)
[03:57] <hater2win> anybody know if vsftpd is better than proftpd? im having some trouble getting proftpd working but people say vsftpd is better anyway. any suggestions?
[03:57] <omar> NSK dont work beter
[03:57] <bdmp> I did japanese, so I learned alot about comps trying to use them as study tools
[03:57] <NSK> hater2win: I use vsftpd and I am very happy with it
[03:58] <_johan> Pixels: what iso?
[03:58] <hater2win> NSK: easy to set up?
[03:58] <hater2win> i mean not that it matters, lol. i would do what i needed to to set it up but, lol
[03:58] <omar> :S
[03:58] <[Pixels] > http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=94401
[03:58] <[Pixels] > its in french
[03:58] <NSK> hater2win: very very easy
[03:58] <[Pixels] > but the part you need is in english
[03:58] <[Pixels] > :)
[03:59] <[Pixels] > enjoy _johan
[03:59] <[Pixels] > kubuntu 5.10
[03:59] <[Pixels] > gonna try it.
[03:59] <_johan> thanks
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> btw pixels: can i install from windows to an empty unformatted disk?
[03:59] <hater2win> NSK: thanks for the enlightenment
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> ui just got myself a new sata 160 gb hdd today
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> on which i wanna install kubuntu
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> then back all data up on it
[03:59] <NSK> hater2win: the idea is you start it through xinetd, you set the runlevels, and you edit /etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> and format my old hdd
[04:00] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: yeah, if you follow the directions.
[04:00] <[Pixels] > but if the .iso is corrupt, its not going to work
[04:00] <[Pixels] > :(
[04:00] <[CC] Punkrock> yeah, probably
[04:00] <[CC] Punkrock> i hate belgian providers with their stupid limits
[04:00] <_johan> oh..pixels: that's french. Will babelfish translate this good enough, or do I just need to look out for package names?
[04:00] <NSK> what limits?
[04:00] <bdmp> [CC] Punkrock, You want to burn an .iso on windows?
[04:00] <omar> help :(
[04:00] <[Pixels] > just scoll down johan
[04:00] <[Pixels] > the part you need is in code brackets
[04:00] <[Pixels] > and in english
[04:00] <[Pixels] > the remove gcc 4 part
[04:00] <[Pixels] > and installing the older gccc
[04:01] <[Pixels] > then creating the link
[04:01] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.
[04:01] <_johan> okay, I think I found it
[04:01] <[Pixels] > i had problems with my system saying there was no root user once
[04:01] <[Pixels] > that was fun.
[04:02] <[Pixels] > thats like an automatic reinstall
[04:02] <[Pixels] > coudlnt su/sux/sudo
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> if I download the DVD for kubuntu, that's 33% of my monthly limit...
[04:02] <kihaji> I can sudo on the commandline
[04:02] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: just get the regular cd.
[04:02] <kihaji> but adept wont let me.
[04:02] <[Pixels] > the install cd
[04:02] <[Pixels] > whats adept?
[04:02] <NSK> you have monthly limits?
[04:02] <[Pixels] > im not familiar with it.
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> thats the one i have :
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> yeah nsk
[04:02] <NSK> in Greece most connections are unlimited
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> in belgium all providers still have 10gb limits
[04:03] <bdmp> same in Japan
[04:03] <kihaji> package manager, think its the new synaptic for kubuntu
[04:03] <[CC] Punkrock> you can increase them to 50gb/month for 1 per gb
[04:03] <[Pixels] > i share my cable modem with everyone in my apartment complex
[04:03] <bdmp> america is hit or miss
[04:03] <[Pixels] > my bandwidth = crap
[04:03] <[CC] Punkrock> so it'll cost double if i want 50gb
[04:03] <bdmp> In Japan they are gettin fiber everywhere and it is cheaper than dsl
[04:03] <NSK> I pay 50-60 Euro per month for 384/128kbit ADSL with unlimited transfer
[04:03] <[Pixels] > im dl'ing the iso at 89.3 KB/sec
[04:03] <[CC] Punkrock> can i verify the iso itself without extracting it first?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > here in a month i can get fiberoptics :)
[04:04] <_johan> My dad gets 24mb/s broadband for $40 a month, 300gb limit
[04:04] <bdmp> where are you?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > _johan: thats impossible.
[04:04] <omar> Pixels why can i not do make and make install :S
[04:04] <[Pixels] > thats multifiberoptic.
[04:04] <NSK> bdmp: me?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:04] <_johan> Pixels: that's is possible. why shouldn't it?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > omar: do ls -a
[04:04] <bdmp> Sure but I meant [Pixels]  
[04:04] <[Pixels] > see what is in the directory.
[04:05] <[CC] Punkrock> seems there is a 0byte file in the iso called ubuntu
[04:05] <[Pixels] > im in Illinois, USA
[04:05] <[CC] Punkrock> thats not good...
[04:05] <bdmp> NSK you are in greece you said right
[04:05] <bdmp> oh
[04:05] <omar> and
[04:05] <[Pixels] > afk a few, my brain needs nutrition
[04:06] <omar> ?
[04:06] <NSK> recently ISPs here started offering cheaper ADSL with 1GB or 3GB/month limit, but it sucks
[04:06] <[CC] Punkrock> hmz
[04:06] <[CC] Punkrock> seems the md5 on my pc IS correct
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> but the one on my cd isnt
[04:07] <[Pixels] > bad burn
[04:07] <[Pixels] > reburn at a slower speed
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> crap
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> there are 2 errors in it on my pc aswell
[04:07] <NSK> just create another dvd
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> is it still usable with 2 error sums?
[04:08] <[Pixels] > probably not
[04:08] <[Pixels] > but you can try..
[04:08] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:08] <[CC] Punkrock> its the netboot ones
[04:08] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm guessing i need those
[04:09] <[Pixels] > wish i could be mor helpfull [CC] Punkrock 
[04:09] <[Pixels] > yeah, those are needed
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> i which my pc hadn't gone fubar after updating the ATI drivers
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> then i'd have all the time in the world for linux
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> but now i need to format my pc asap
[04:09] <[Pixels] > what happened with ati drivers?
[04:09] <[Pixels] > they are easy to install.
[04:09] <omar> Pixels i am finsish to do ls -a ehat then ?
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> every single driverupdate after 5.2 caused me nothing but trouble
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> (they're at 5.10 now)
[04:10] <[Pixels] > xorg or xfree ?
[04:10] <raingrove> [CC] Punkrock, 
[04:10] <raingrove> u dont have to format
[04:10] <raingrove> if u have trouble getting into X widnows
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i have tried removing drivers and going back to older ones ...
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> X windows?
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> eh?
[04:10] <raingrove> just press Alt+ctrl+F1
[04:10] <[Pixels] > you can do apt-get --purge fglrx
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm talking about MQ windows atm :)
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> M$
[04:10] <raingrove> oh
[04:10] <[Pixels] > ewww
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i dont have linux yet :p
[04:10] <omar> who
[04:10] <[Pixels] > ms windows..
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i NEEd ms windows
[04:11] <[Pixels] > omar type in ls -a in the directory
[04:11] <raingrove> everyone needs it
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> cuz some games dont work in linux
[04:11] <raingrove> for games at least
[04:11] <[Pixels] > see what files come up
[04:11] <raingrove> haha
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> yup
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm a gaming freak
[04:11] <[Pixels] > there should be a make file
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> and i need it for my mom and lil sis
[04:11] <omar> Pixels i am finsish to do ls -a ehat then ?
[04:11] <[Pixels] > if ./configure worked correctly
[04:11] <[Pixels] > no
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> cuz they haven't even got a clue what linux is
[04:11] <omar> AMm ther is a make file
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> download started
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> will be ready in about 60-70 minutes
[04:11] <[Pixels] > is it just labeled make ?
[04:11] <[Pixels] > or make.sh
[04:12] <_johan> Pixels: if I remove gcc 4.0, then build essential, g++ and libstdc++ will get removed. should I still do it?
[04:12] <[Pixels] > yeah, cause you can readd them afterwards
[04:12] <[Pixels] > its just a temporary removal :)
[04:12] <omar> no one file name Makefile.in and Makefile.cvs and Makefile.am
[04:13] <_johan> Pixels: ok
[04:13] <[Pixels] > try ./make
[04:13] <[Pixels] > omar
[04:13] <[Pixels] > _johan: let me warn you, the cvscedega is buggy
[04:13] <[Pixels] > your better off finding someone with a real copy
[04:13] <[CC] Punkrock> btw: how stable is 5.10?
[04:14] <omar> bash: ./make: No such file or directory
[04:14] <omar> I can do ./INSTALL
[04:14] <[Pixels] > try that then omar
[04:14] <omar> k
[04:14] <[Pixels] > omar are you new to linux ?
[04:14] <_johan> Pixels: I'll try...ehm..finding the real version then
[04:14] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ ./INSTALL
[04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 1: Basic: command not found
[04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 2: [04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 4: These: command not found
[04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 9: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[04:14] <[Pixels] > omar what package are you trying to compile ?
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 9: The: command not found
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 10: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[04:15] <[Pixels] > stop pasting please
[04:15] <[Pixels] > we get the idea :)
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 10: definitions.: command not found
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 113: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 113: `is something like `gnu-as' or `x' (for the X Window System).  The'
[04:15] <omar> :S
[04:15] <[Pixels] > a simple, it didnt work would have sufficed :)
[04:15] <apokryphos> omar: it's common courtesey to not flood the channel; please don't do it :)
[04:15] <[Pixels] > you can join #flood
[04:16] <[Pixels] > to paste long error messages :)
[04:16] <omar> Sorry
[04:16] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[04:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:16] <[Pixels] > or use a service like pate bin
[04:16] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:16] <omar> I copy one line and all cames
[04:16] <[Pixels] > you beat me to it apokryphos
[04:16] <[Pixels] > omar: what package are you trying to compile ?
[04:17] <omar> I am compile kbear-3.0alpha1b
[04:17] <[Pixels] > okay let me see if i can find a .deb of that
[04:17] <[Pixels] > much easier to install that way.
[04:17] <omar> http://kbear.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download&PHPSESSID=ee2d254dd8914a424ee66396a8e670f5
[04:17] <apokryphos> omar: what's wrong with Konqueror?
[04:18] <[Pixels] > apt-cache search kbear
[04:18] <omar> I cant use him on my FTP, i cant use brwser on my server
[04:18] <[Pixels] > oops
[04:18] <[Pixels] > wrong console
[04:18] <[Pixels] > sorry
[04:18] <apokryphos> omar: Konqueror has an FTP kioslave -- you can use that for filemanagement via ftp
[04:18] <apokryphos> try it
[04:18] <[Pixels] > kbear - graphical ftp client for KDE
[04:18] <omar> how
[04:18] <apokryphos> omar: ftp://username@somedomain.com
[04:18] <[Pixels] > omar type in apt-get kbear
[04:19] <navitux> hola a todos
[04:19] <[Pixels] > err sorry
[04:19] <raingrove> hey guys
[04:19] <[Pixels] > apt-get install kbear
[04:19] <raingrove> recommend me a native theme for kde please
[04:19] <[CC] Punkrock> .iso 10% downloaded
[04:19] <[Pixels] > im sure that kubuntu has it on a repository
[04:19] <Tm_T> raingrove: tiblit & knifty
[04:19] <[Pixels] > especially if debian does (which is what i am using at the moment_
[04:19] <navitux> quit
[04:19] <apokryphos> [Pixels] : kbear is rubbish :P
[04:19] <[Pixels] > i agree
[04:20] <raingrove> Tm_T, thanks i will try them out
[04:20] <[Pixels] > but if the man wants to use it, i say let him
[04:20] <[Pixels] > he will learn :P
[04:20] <_johan> got to go, bye everyone
[04:20] <[Pixels] > bye johan
[04:20] <_johan> and thanks pixels for your help
[04:20] <[Pixels] > good luck :)
[04:20] <EcksEightySix> wow... I uninstall gcj/gnu java whatever, because I needed Sun's JDK stuff and that bitch goes ahead and also remove OOo2. wtg!
[04:20] <[Pixels] > wow ive helped more people in here today, then i ever did in #debian
[04:21] <[Pixels] > EcksEightySix: OO2 relies on java
[04:21] <omar> apokryphos: Work with Konqueror
[04:21] <[Pixels] > its a dependency
[04:21] <hater2win> NSK:  what does 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket mean?
[04:21] <EcksEightySix> yea I know
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> but I don't want that gnu implentation
[04:22] <[Pixels] > hater2win: the socket couldnt be bound to listen
[04:22] <hater2win> what do i need to do?
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> can't Ooo2 simply use sun's jdk5
[04:22] <[Pixels] > EcksEightySix: when you install the sun java package
[04:22] <[Pixels] > you can safely install OO2 again
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> Oh
[04:22] <[Pixels] > :)
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> sweet
[04:22] <hater2win> [Pixels] : What do i need to do?
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> :)
[04:22] <[Pixels] > hater2win: are you behind a firewall ?
[04:23] <[Pixels] > or using something like guarddog ?
[04:23] <[Pixels] > if so you need to open the port its trying to bind too
[04:23] <hater2win> yes, but ive forwarded the correct ports
[04:23] <[Pixels] > you've checked in iptables ?
[04:23] <raingrove> does anyone play freeciv
[04:23] <[Pixels] > raingrove: not anymore, but I used too.
[04:23] <hater2win> [Pixels] : IPTables?????
[04:24] <raingrove> heh why not anymore?
[04:24] <raingrove> can u recommend some nice games for linux
[04:24] <[Pixels] > raingrove: grew out of it.
[04:24] <[Pixels] > raingrove: what types ?
[04:24] <raingrove> anything.
[04:25] <[Pixels] > one sec
[04:25] <robin_2> raingrove: ET
[04:25] <[Pixels] > http://www.linuxgames.com/
[04:25] <robin_2> raingrove: wolfenstein enemy territory.
[04:25] <NightWalker> Hmm where can i get valknut or somthink dc++ client on kubuntu
[04:25] <[Pixels] > http://www.happypenguin.org/
[04:26] <navitux> hi!
[04:26] <raingrove> cool
[04:26] <NightWalker> Hello
[04:26] <hater2win> [Pixels] : iptables??
[04:26] <raingrove> is enemy territory in ubuntu repository?
[04:27] <robin_2> raingrove: no, you have to download it.
[04:27] <[Pixels] > www.freshmeat.net
[04:27] <raingrove> ok
[04:27] <[Pixels] > hater2win: programs like guarddog are GUI's for iptables
[04:27] <[Pixels] > iptables is what allows traffic in/out
[04:27] <robin_2> raingrove: you can download it here http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=files
[04:28] <robin_2> raingrove: it requires opengl.
[04:28] <libben> urbanterror 4 teh win
[04:28] <libben> quake3 though
[04:28] <hater2win> so what do i need to be making sure of on these iptables?
[04:28] <[Pixels] > world of warcraft for teh winZ0r
[04:28] <[Pixels] > hater2win: www.google.com :)
[04:29] <raingrove> robin_2, have u tried wine?
[04:29] <hater2win> ty
[04:29] <[Pixels] > np
[04:29] <[Pixels] > wine = the devil
[04:29] <robin_2> raingrove: you don't need wine for it, there is a native linux version.
[04:29] <[Pixels] > WineX for applications, Cedega for games
[04:29] <[Pixels] > Windows for target practice!
[04:29] <raingrove> robin_2,  i know that. just asking
[04:30] <robin_2> raingrove: k
[04:30] <[Pixels] > im so tired, i should've went to bed
[04:30] <[Pixels] > instead of reinstalling debian
[04:30] <raingrove> does Adobe Photoshop CS2 and iTunes work fine with wine?
[04:30] <Eliteforce> ^^
[04:30] <[Pixels] > takes so long installing to unstable
[04:30] <[Pixels] > cause i do net installs.
[04:30] <[Pixels] > takes about 2 hours total :(
[04:31] <Eliteforce> inet speed?
[04:31] <[Pixels] > i average about 110 KB/sec when downloading from debian rep's
[04:31] <libben> ok, installed adept ... but why does it not appear in the menu?
[04:31] <robin_2> raingrove: I couldn't get CS2 get to work, photoshop 7 might work., Itunes don't think so.
[04:32] <[Pixels] > brb
[04:32] <robin_2> raingrove: but there amarok supports ipods, as the ipod kio slave (although the ubuntu version I can't get to work :/)
[04:32] <NightWalker> Pixels now i am trying to install Valknut and i can't same error
[04:32] <Eliteforce> [Pixels] : either this is you internet connections max speed or you should switch to another mirror
[04:32] <[Pixels] > Eliteforce: max for me pretty much
[04:32] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:33] <[Pixels] > shared cable with 60+ people
[04:33] <[Pixels] > =/
[04:33] <Eliteforce> [Pixels] : :)
[04:33] <_johan> I have now installed cedega. I get the error21. the solution should be turning off prelinking, in /etc/sysconfig/prelinking, but the folder sysconfig doesn't exist :/
[04:34] <[Pixels] > error 21 is a common occurance, even though I havent had it happen
[04:34] <apokryphos> man, Kompile is seriously cool
[04:34] <[Pixels] > thats the only solution that I know of.
[04:34] <apokryphos> nice UI
[04:34] <_johan> Pixels: but do you have the folder sysconfig in /etc?
[04:34] <[Pixels] > yes :) yes it is.
[04:34] <[Pixels] > _johan: i dont have it installed right now
[04:34] <[Pixels] > im on a fresh install.
[04:35] <[Pixels] > you could www.google.com it
[04:36] <strike4ce> Why does firefox look so small in kubuntu?
[04:36] <satafterh> anyone know what to use to play an mkv file?
[04:36] <_johan> mplayer should do
[04:36] <robin_2> strike4ce: small ? what do you mean
[04:37] <satafterh> #_johan tried it, not worki
[04:37] <strike4ce> the url bar is really small
[04:37] <robin_2> strike4ce: not here.
[04:37] <strike4ce> changing fonts does'nt work
[04:38] <strike4ce> robin_2: not here?
[04:38] <robin_2> strike4ce: it is using the same fonts, as my kde apps. You can change that in kcontrol.
[04:38] <robin_2> strike4ce: I have kubuntu, and firefox is looking normal.
[04:39] <strike4ce> Have you seen firefox on windows?
[04:39] <strike4ce> it doesnt look normal on linux
[04:39] <robin_2> strike4ce: :) yes, i'm using it on daily basis, it is the same size.
[04:40] <strike4ce> robin_2: there is a bunch of people complaining about it
[04:40] <libben> Guidance Configuration Tools: i dont have this 
[04:40] <libben> what have i missed to install
[04:40] <libben> how do i know if my system is updated.
[04:42] <robin_2> strike4ce: lucky me. Have you selected " Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications"  ? in the Appearance->GTK styels and fonts section ?
[04:42] <libben> do i miss something in my sources.list http://libben.pastebin.com/394424
[04:42] <strike4ce> yes
[04:43] <robin_2> strike4ce: hmm, I'm using bitstream vera sans 10, and for fixed width: dejavi sans mono 10.
[04:47] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: there was some package related to gtk that I had to download to get gtk apps to use kde fonts properly but I can't remember what it was
[04:48] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[04:48] <jakedahn> hi everyone, can someone tell me how i can reset the resolution of my moniter in kubuntu? It only lets me go up to 1024x768 and i need 1280x1024
[04:48] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: did you get that?
[04:48] <strike4ce> yes in adept?
[04:49] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: did you get the package gtk2-engines-gtk-qt? that's how I fixed my firefox fonts (and all gtk apps under qt)
[04:50] <strike4ce> its installed mister_roboto 
[04:50] <Kalock> Hello all
[04:50] <robin_2> jakedahn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <jakedahn> okie thx
[04:51] <Kalock> I was looking at the Ubuntu distro... I assume just Ubunto downlowd is without KDE.. KUbunto is with and EDUbutno is for kids
[04:51] <navitux> hi
[04:52] <navitux> i'm having some problems with the locales and openoffice
[04:52] <Kalock> Would that be a fair assumption?
[04:52] <apokryphos> Kalock: edubuntu isn't necessarily just for kids, at all
[04:52] <apokryphos> check their site
[04:52] <strike4ce> mister_roboto:  I enabled qt
[04:52] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: I remember there was a bug in the system settings/fonts dialog, the first time you applied "Use my KDE style in GTK apps" it didn't really get set. You had to do it a second time. Don't know if you hit that, or if it was fixed, or what. It's been a long time since I set that up
[04:53] <robin_2> Kalock: ubuntu is with gnome (but you can always install kde afterwards), kubuntu is without gnome, but with kde, and edubuntu don't know
[04:53] <apokryphos> edu = education
[04:53] <robin_2> Kalock: for school I think.
[04:53] <robin_2> *schools.
[04:53] <Kalock> nod
[04:53] <apokryphos> primarily, yes
[04:54] <tenco> so breezy installed katapult, but how can i start this?
[04:54] <robin_2> tenco: alt+space
[04:54] <Kalock> tnk
[04:54] <apokryphos> !katapult
[04:54] <ubotu> I heard katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[04:55] <tenco> ah, thanks! :)
[04:55] <mister_roboto> !grub
[04:55] <ubotu> methinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:56] <mister_roboto> !tell me about grub
[04:56] <mister_roboto> this bot access to the docs was the best thing ever added to these channels  :)
[04:57] <Kalock> And so begins the download
[04:59] <arafat> does anybody know the package name for the latex style files (e.g.: hyperref.sty, epic.sty)?
[04:59] <robin_2> arafat use dpkg -S or apt-file search
[04:59] <robin_2> !apt-file
[04:59] <ubotu> No idea, robin_2
[04:59] <robin_2> hmm
[04:59] <robin_2> :)
[04:59] <robin_2> anyway you can download it.
[05:00] <arafat> do you know where?
[05:00] <robin_2> arafat yes, but if you install apt-file and do a search by yourself You will find out.
[05:00] <mister_roboto> it's apt-cache search
[05:00] <robin_2> mister_roboto: no it isn't
[05:00] <robin_2> mister_roboto: that is for packages
[05:01] <apokryphos> arafat: that would be a tetex-extra I presume
[05:01] <luser> Hi guys, I just installed Kubuntu, and I can't seem to be able to connect to my fileserver. Is there any way I can see whether SMB is working. or what could be wrong?
[05:01] <robin_2> not files.
[05:01] <mister_roboto> ahhh, sorry ok
[05:01] <apokryphos> arafat: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file can show you where a file comes from
[05:01] <robin_2> apt-file search hyperref.sty
[05:01] <robin_2> tetex-extra: usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty
[05:01] <arafat> ahh! thank you all! that is the package!
[05:02] <luser> It manages to find my Windows computers (and their shares), but unfortunately it can't find the samba server on my Debian machine
[05:14] <xuniL_> then i put a "New Item" in "KDE Menu Editor" and save it it dont show up in the meny and if i enter the "KDE Menu Editor" again its gone...
[05:14] <xuniL_> any clue?
[05:14] <jakedahn> How do i add websites to download from with the apt-get system???
[05:14] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:15] <xuniL_> any one?
[05:15] <jakedahn> mister_roboto: so do i just put in a website under the rest of them?
[05:15] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: yse
[05:15] <jakedahn> okie, ill give it a shot
[05:17] <xuniL_> what do i need to type in console to gett total root control... so i can change every thing without console
[05:19] <mister_roboto> !tell me about msttcorefonts
[05:21] <arafat> i just deleted my mp3-directory (rm -rf ) ...:-( is there a way to undo this operation? i'm using ext3
[05:21] <DarthFrog> arafat: Restore from backup.
[05:21] <arafat> hmm. i have no backup of this directory...
[05:22] <DarthFrog> arafat: Then you're hosed.
[05:22] <mister_roboto> !tell me about fonts
[05:24] <jakedahn> how do i check all of the packages that are available by the sources i have in my apt-get sources file??
[05:25] <DarthFrog> jakedahn: Synaptic will tell you what's available.
[05:25] <jakedahn> where can i get that, or is it already on the machine by default?
[05:26] <DarthFrog> jakedahn: It should be installed.   It's under the System Menu as Synaptic Package Manager.
[05:26] <DarthFrog> Synaptic rocks!
[05:27] <DarthFrog> So does the new Adept package manger for KDE. :-)
[05:27] <jakedahn> ok, wait where is it now?
[05:27] <DarthFrog> IT's shy.  It
[05:27] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: it's a gnome program      apt-get install synaptic
[05:27] <DarthFrog> 's probably hiding. :-)
[05:27] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: it's not there by default with kubuntu/kde
[05:27] <jakedahn> oh, well im on kubuntu i get something like adept for a package manager
[05:27] <DarthFrog> jakedahn: Use Adept then.
[05:28] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: it runs fine on kubuntu if you want to use synaptic :)
[05:28] <jakedahn> lol
[05:28] <jakedahn> you really like it dont you
[05:28] <mister_roboto> haha
[05:28] <mister_roboto> don't really care but i installed it and it's good
[05:28] <jakedahn> can someone give me what the have in their /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: i just use the cmd line most of the time
[05:29] <jakedahn> when i use apt-get it doesnt find any packages
[05:29] <jakedahn> ah
[05:29] <NightWalker> Why can i not do make
[05:29] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: "apt-get install build-essential"
[05:29] <soulslayer8703> Hello
[05:29] <soulslayer8703> Somebody Knows how to configure wifi in kubuntu????
[05:30] <jrjx> JakeD: I have a apt/sources.list, but it's for the 2005.04 distribution, hoary.  Is that what you want, or the new one?
[05:30] <NightWalker> i am root and i am finish to do ./congigure and then i fo make then this came make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop
[05:30] <jakedahn> im on 5.10 the new one, and when i use apt-get the default list doesnt find any packages
[05:31] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: http://pastebin.com/394471
[05:31] <jakedahn> how do i add the regular debian link?
[05:31] <_martin> Q: how to connect to another kubuntu machine? (filesharing)
[05:31] <jrjx> Huh.  Okay.
[05:31] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: Then make is installed.  You just don't have the necessary Makefile, is all.
[05:31] <NightWalker> how
[05:32] <xuniL_> can you log on as root?
[05:32] <mister_roboto> !root
[05:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:32] <mister_roboto> !nfs
[05:32] <ubotu> well, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:33] <xuniL_> but how do i change root stuff then?
[05:33] <xuniL_> with sudo?
[05:33] <JabberWokky> Yes.
[05:33] <DarthFrog> xuniL_: Yes
[05:33] <mister_roboto> _martin: if it's 2 unix machines, you can use nfs. if you just want to copy files, you can use ftp or scp.
[05:33] <_martin> ubotu: well yes i think I have set up the sharing part right, but how to access it?
[05:33] <ubotu> _martin: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:33] <jrjx> Roboto: Should you update that first line in sources.list to reflect the correct CD?
[05:34] <DarthFrog> Or rsync, for copy.
[05:34] <DarthFrog> rsync is truly excellent.
[05:34] <mister_roboto> DarthFrog: that's good for mirroring stuff but it's not really the thing for merely doing file sharing
[05:35] <DarthFrog> mister_roboto: If you set up a rsync server, it is. 
[05:35] <JabberWokky> I probably have the search terms wrong... anybody know a way to set the resolution of virtual consoles such that they survive updates (i.e., without vidmode or a compile option).  I like the ubuntu kernels other than the default resolution, and since fixing the resolution requires a reboot, it's kind of a pain.  Alternate methods, anybody?
[05:35] <NightWalker> What comad i log my in like root are the command: su or what?
[05:35] <DarthFrog> but for mounting network shares, NFS is just the ticket.
[05:36] <mister_roboto> DarthFrog:  nfs is superior for that purpose if you don't mind the network chattiness. You don't need to make a local copy like you do with rsync. and if you're not actually synchronizing anything, rsync doesn't add value
[05:36] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: "su -" won't work unless you set a root password.  That will enable the root account.
[05:36] <nikkia> mister_roboto: i'd be more worried about the inherent security problems with enabling nfs on a machine
[05:36] <robin_2> sudo su works
[05:36] <mister_roboto> nikkia: yes, but on an internal network    <shrug>
[05:36] <NightWalker> I do su omar and pass
[05:37] <JabberWokky> NightWalker: You can use sudo -s
[05:37] <DarthFrog> unison?  Hmm, have to check it out.
[05:37] <nikkia> mister_roboto: even so, enabling rpc behind a firewall is still a risk, IMO
[05:37] <jrjx> For sudo, I was doing "sudo bash" before, but now I do "sudo -s" to get basically the same thing.
[05:37] <nikkia> yeah, unison is great, i use it for keeping work&home source trees synced
[05:37] <NightWalker> Okey i am in like root
[05:38] <JabberWokky> nikkia: Ditto here... plus I do three way syncs with it, nice.
[05:38] <mister_roboto> nikkia: i prefer to just vpn to the cvs repo at work for that ;)
[05:38] <strike4ce> Anyone know why Kate would open up when I download a program to desktop on the Konqueror web browser
[05:38] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: Then sit on your hands before you issue any root commands.   A good habit to get into.  Saves asking questions like "How do I recover from "rm -rf /". :-)
[05:38] <nikkia> mister_roboto: sadly, i've tried and tried, but cannot get my work to institute a cvs respos.
[05:39] <nikkia> mister_roboto: and my boss is well aware of the benefits, just no time or money to spend on getting a server, setting it up, and training the other employees to use it
[05:40] <mister_roboto> nikkia: yes, i can understand that. however, the cost of NOT using at least some kind of source control is far higher  :)    you're using SOMETHING, i  hope
[05:40] <NightWalker> Yes
[05:40] <xxenon> how do I get MP3 playback in Xine ? (5.10)
[05:40] <JabberWokky> Anybody know a way to change the text mode resolution of virtual consoles (other than vidmode, which gets blown away when apt fetches a new kernel)?
[05:40] <NightWalker> but i am finish to try mutsh comand to day and nothing WORK
[05:40] <libben> do i miss something in my sources.list http://libben.pastebin.com/394424
[05:40] <nikkia> mister_roboto: sadly, no, not really, however, our industry is a bit different, we're generally '1 programmer to a team'
[05:41] <libben> cause i dont have some things that are supposed to be in breezy
[05:41] <nikkia> mister_roboto: there are definite gains we could get from implementing version control, but they're not as big gains as you'd see in a large team environment
[05:42] <mister_roboto> nikkia: once you get into the habit though, you'll find you want to use it even on your personal projects. it frees you so much from worrying about doing experiments and EASILY backing up to previous points, for example. it really adds no overhead once you get used to it. saves you time and stress
[05:42] <NightWalker> configure: error: libxml2 must be installed.
[05:42] <NightWalker> :S
[05:42] <JabberWokky> At the very least you can have a nightly commit to your source trees and be able to jump back.  I use svn that way.
[05:42] <JabberWokky> Just on private projects.
[05:43] <xuniL_> okey i have a irritating problem i cant change my kde menu...  and i dont have a clue why!
[05:43] <mister_roboto> nikkia: seriously, if you're a developer, you should try installing subversion at least (improved cvs)     or cvs.   it's not hard to use and there are good online docs
[05:43] <libben> my menu wont update itselfs with newly installed programs
[05:43] <libben> such as adept
[05:43] <nikkia> mister_roboto: atm, i use unison for that :), i never sync when i'm mid-way thru experimental changes to my code... its not perfect, but it suffices, i do have a local cvs server on my work PC, but there are numerous reasons why i don't use it, mostly related to issues with IDE integration aspects of cvs
[05:43] <mister_roboto> nikkia: i mean at home... play with it
[05:43] <libben> and i also dont have the new apps that are supposed to be in final
[05:43] <xuniL_> save here libben and i cant even add any thing....
[05:43] <mister_roboto> nikkia: what ide?
[05:43] <nikkia> mister_roboto: you're telling the wrong person, really :)
[05:44] <xuniL_> same
[05:44] <mister_roboto> nikkia:   ok :)
[05:44] <nikkia> mister_roboto: i've been using source code control systems since 1989
[05:44] <libben> i miss guidance tools
[05:44] <strike4ce> What is the command for installing from desktop  cd Desktop then what else?
[05:44] <NightWalker> What is this : configure: error: libxml2 must be installed.
[05:44] <xuniL_> ./configure
[05:44] <xuniL_> make 
[05:44] <xuniL_> make install
[05:44] <orangey> hey all!
[05:44] <mister_roboto> nikkia: gotcha. i thought you might not have been, in which case it would be worth your while to try it.  no sense preaching to the choir!
[05:44] <strike4ce> is it dpkg -i program(tab)??
[05:45] <nikkia> mister_roboto: as to what IDE, just about all of them have some issues when it comes to non-guarenteed respository availability, even emacs has situations where it'll sit and make you wait while it tries to contact the server, without you even asking it to check
[05:45] <orangey> since upgrading kubuntu, I haven't been able to get my /etc/fstab to update in response to new media..
[05:45] <JabberWokky> nikkia: subversion and unison work great.  If you want to transfer the repository, use it like normal.  If you want a clean source tree, add "ignore = Name .svn" to your unison .prf file.
[05:45] <strike4ce> mister_roboto: can you help me?
[05:45] <orangey> any reason for that ?
[05:45] <NightWalker> xuniL Make dont work
[05:45] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: i don't know. what's your question?
[05:46] <strike4ce> from cd desktop what is the dpkg command?
[05:46] <xuniL_> whats the error?
[05:46] <xuniL_> is it installed?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> nikkia: if there are ide  problems, i just use the cmd line tools for checkout/commit and use the ide only as editor
[05:46] <xuniL_> i got to install it...
[05:46] <nikkia> mister_roboto: thats the problem, the editors will still occasionally try to contact the server to see if there are updates, its annoying
[05:46] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: ummm "dpkg"?
[05:47] <strike4ce> mister_roboto: dpkg -i?
[05:47] <NightWalker> How can i install it ?
[05:47] <mister_roboto> nikkia: they won't try if they don't know about the repo!   :)     just treat the files as a bunch of local files on disk
[05:47] <xuniL_> sudo apt-get install make
[05:47] <xuniL_> in console
[05:47] <nikkia> mister_roboto: yeah, i know, i do occasionally cp -a then find . -name CVS -exec rm -R {} \;   :)
[05:48] <strike4ce> xuniL_:  are you talking to me?
[05:48] <NightWalker> when i do ./configure than this came configure: error: libxml2 must be installed
[05:48] <orangey> are people here able to see media they just inserted in kde?
[05:48] <nikkia> mister_roboto: thinking about it, unison'ing two directories with 'CVS' ignored would perhaps make that easier
[05:48] <mister_roboto> nikkia: huh?  then you won't be able to check in stuff. the ide doenn't magically know about cvs just because there are CVS subdirs there.
[05:48] <xuniL_> NightWalker then install that..
[05:48] <NightWalker> how
[05:49] <nikkia> mister_roboto: many editors DO magically know because of the existance of 'CVS'
[05:49] <mister_roboto> nikkia: "cvs export" 
[05:49] <EnorMOZ> Hello I just installed latest kubuntu... I am having problems downloading kftpgrabber says there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break packages... anyone else have this ??
[05:49] <nikkia> mister_roboto: try emacs sometime, you'll see it picks up on the existance of CVS and adds cvs tracking
[05:49] <EnorMOZ> btw im doing this via adept
[05:50] <mister_roboto> nikkia: ok... not an emacs user here (vi - please no flamewar :)    
[05:50] <huso> huhu
[05:50] <mister_roboto> nikkia: you can't tell emacs to ignore the server?  that seems quite a pita
[05:51] <NightWalker> xuniL how can i install it?
[05:51] <xuniL_> open console and write sudo adept
[05:51] <nikkia> mister_roboto: you probably can, but its an additional step :/
[05:51] <xuniL_> there you can search for it...
[05:51] <xuniL_> and install it..
[05:52] <nikkia> mister_roboto: and if it does the cvs check at file open, its still going to mean sitting and waiting a second or two for it to fail if the VPN is down for any reason
[05:52] <NightWalker> Sry i am new how can i search
[05:52] <mister_roboto> nikkia: yes, i can see how that would suck :)     in your situation, it seems like you should just disable that feature by default and use cvs manually
[05:52] <Titi> NightWalker: type apt-get install libxml2-dev
[05:52] <xuniL_> under the Quick Filter
[05:53] <mister_roboto> nikkia: but unison would work fine too :)
[05:54] <woddf2> Haldo
[05:54] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet?
[05:54] <NightWalker> Titi  E: Couldn't find package libxml2-dev
[05:55] <Titi> hum... ti should be there...
[05:55] <Titi> it
[05:57] <NightWalker> Can y maby paste a link where i can download libxml
[05:57] <xuniL_> i found it
[05:57] <EnorMOZ> What is the best ftp client to use with kubuntu that supports PRET ??
[05:58] <NightWalker> where ?
[05:58] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet?
[05:59] <NightWalker> Titi Can you maby paste a link where i can download libxml
[05:59] <woddf2> It just wants to create a new one.
[05:59] <Titi> well the command i gave you should work, really...
[06:01] <EnorMOZ> has anyone been able to install kftpgrabber on latest kubuntu ??
[06:01] <Titi> did you modify the source.list file to download packages from the net?
[06:03] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet? It just wants to create a new one.
[06:03] <cave> i still dont get it.. how do I run Kate as root?
[06:03] <EnorMOZ> su 
[06:03] <EnorMOZ> then type the password for root
[06:03] <DarkSeid7> hello folks
[06:04] <woddf2> I can't run Kate as root either.
[06:04] <DarkSeid7> so any news on when USB functionality will be up and running in Kubuntu 5.10?
[06:04] <cave> EnorMOZ: i get nothing from that
[06:05] <NightWalker> How can i install RPM ?
[06:05] <EnorMOZ> USB works here
[06:05] <EnorMOZ> got mouse and keyboard to usb
[06:05] <woddf2> I have a working USB mouse.
[06:05] <EnorMOZ> yes
[06:06] <EnorMOZ> logitech mx700
[06:06] <cave> im just trying to mount my hard drives here... someone told me to edit the /etc/fstab file
[06:06] <DarkSeid7> 2 machines and both have non functioning USB
[06:06] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet? It just wants to create a new one.
[06:06] <cave> but i cant save any changes if i'm not root
[06:06] <orangey> are people here able to see media they just inserted in kde?
[06:06] <DarkSeid7> both AFTER I dist-upgrade to 5.10
[06:06] <orangey> doh!
[06:06] <orangey> What I mean to ask is: Anybody here using pmount with breezy???
[06:07] <EnorMOZ> I just installed kubuntu 
[06:07] <EnorMOZ> didnt do upgrade
[06:07] <cave> ooh pmount sounds interesting!
[06:07] <orangey> cave, it is : )
[06:08] <cave> i never heard about it, just read it's description on Adept
[06:08] <orangey> cave, as I understand, it's automatically being used..
[06:08] <orangey> cave, do you use usb drives?
[06:08] <woddf2> Will someone please answer my question?
[06:08] <cave> oh
[06:08] <orangey> cave, if so, just plug it in.. if it appears, then pmount is running fine..
[06:08] <DarkSeid7> yet on the same machines if I change to the GDM and boot into Gnome USB works like a charm
[06:08] <cave> no, my drives are internal
[06:08] <orangey> or i guess it could be fstab-sync that's running too..
[06:09] <NightWalker> How can i install rpm packets
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> hi
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> i need some help here
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> please
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> please
[06:10] <orangey> soulslayer9090, just ask your question
[06:10] <cave> I installed Kubuntu yesterday
[06:10] <NightWalker> How can i install rpm compiler
[06:11] <NightWalker> ????
[06:11] <cave> first priority is to mount my other partitions to access my files... 
[06:12] <Chousuke> NightWalker: rpm compiler? 
[06:12] <NightWalker> where can i get libxml 2.0.0
[06:12] <Chousuke> I think it's in universe
[06:12] <Chousuke> it should be
[06:12] <Chousuke> but wtf do you mean with rpm compiler?
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> sudo apt-get install libxml
[06:13] <orangey> Chousuke, any idea whether breezy uses fstab-sync or pmount?
[06:13] <Chousuke> orangey: I think it uses pmount. I'm not sure though.
[06:13] <NightWalker> E: Couldn't find package libxml
[06:13] <NightWalker> DarkSeid7 
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> so any clues as to why USB works when I use Gnome but not K on the SAME machine?
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> hrmph...
[06:13] <woddf2> Will someone please answer my question?
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> ok well then
[06:14] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: KDE has HAL trouble.
[06:14] <Chousuke> that might explain it :P
[06:14] <orangey> Chousuke, would you mind double-checking? it looks like my /etc/fstab isn't updating when I put in a device..
[06:14] <DarkSeid7> that explains my DCOP explosions
[06:14] <DarkSeid7> DOH!
[06:14] <soulslayer8787> excuse me im back
[06:14] <Chousuke> orangey: I think it isn't supposed to update :/
[06:14] <soulslayer8787> this wifi connection is extremely unnestable
[06:15] <Chousuke> orangey: but I'm not even running Ubuntu now. :/
[06:15] <DarkSeid7> Nightwalker the other thing you could try is to add the debian repositories to your sources.list file
[06:15] <DarkSeid7> and then do an apt-get update
[06:15] <soulslayer8787> can you help me with my connection problem
[06:15] <DarkSeid7> if all else fails... compile it
[06:15] <orangey> Chousuke, if it's not supposed to update, that would be quite the step back..
[06:15] <orangey> Chousuke, it *did* update in hoary
[06:15] <soulslayer8787> someone
[06:16] <Chousuke> orangey: hmm.
[06:16] <NightWalker> I am new in linux and 2 i am form icelandic dont under stand :S
[06:16] <woddf2> Will someone please answer my question?
[06:16] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: Debian repos?
[06:16] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: That will break things.
[06:16] <Chousuke> bad.
[06:16] <DarkSeid7> no it wont
[06:16] <Chousuke> yes it will.
[06:16] <DarkSeid7> hell I have hoary running on my laptop with a mix of deb and ubuntu repositories
[06:17] <DarkSeid7> works like a charm
[06:17] <soulslayer8787> ok
[06:17] <Chousuke> And you don't even need Debian repos. There's universe.
[06:17] <DarkSeid7> apt is a wonderful thing
[06:17] <Chousuke> Why the hell do you need Debian repos anyway?
[06:17] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: Anyway, I suppose you're using apt-preferences
[06:17] <Chousuke> without pinning it's likely they'll break.
[06:17] <NightWalker> :(
[06:18] <DarkSeid7> because there are a few things that dont exist in the ubuntu repos
[06:18] <woddf2> No one is answering my question.
[06:18] <Firetech> this ivman thingie, shouldn't it be started automatically? (or is it?)
[06:18] <DarkSeid7> whats the question wodf sorry
[06:19] <woddf2> How do I get Kopete to use a different wallet?
[06:19] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: I still wouldn't mix Debian repos without any pinning.
[06:19] <DarkSeid7> no clue.. I use GAIM
[06:19] <Ironfrost> I have a fairly simple question about .bashrc
[06:19] <Ironfrost> does it only affect bash or does it affect sh as well?
[06:19] <libben> how do i know if i have the updated breezy?
[06:20] <Ironfrost> and if not, what is the equivalent file for sh
[06:20] <Chousuke> Ironfrost: sh is bash in Ubuntu, usually.
[06:20] <Mortis_kruul> Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :)
[06:20] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: Actually I'd probably just add the source repos and rebuild the packages for Ubuntu 
[06:20] <killers> HOLA
[06:20] <killers> ALGUNO QUE HABLE ESPAOL?
[06:21] <DarkSeid7> well for source I usually just hit sourceforge and get the tarballs
[06:21] <libben> just english
[06:21] <Chousuke> killers: English.
[06:21] <Chousuke> !es
[06:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:21] <orangey> and what exactly is ivman, for that matter?
[06:21] <Mortis_kruul> For espanol look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl 
[06:21] <Chousuke> Someone kick Mortis_kruul 
[06:21] <killers> THANKS
[06:21] <Mortis_kruul> Sorry
[06:21] <xuniL_> can someone help me with this compling error? http://pastebin.com/394486
[06:21] <libben> some1 tell me how i know if i have the upadted breezy
[06:22] <libben> cause i miss alot of programs
[06:22] <Chousuke> killers: avoid using caps. :/
[06:22] <Ironfrost> chousuke: to give more detail, I have some source-distributed program that wants to use sh when I tell it to compile (I'm not a developer, that's just how the program is distributed)
[06:22] <Chousuke> Ironfrost: what sh?
[06:22] <Chousuke> sh in Ubuntu is a symbolic link to bash
[06:23] <Ironfrost> ah, OK
[06:23] <Ironfrost> because when I type sh in the terminal it looks different, and it doesn't remember the things I have added to the path that session
[06:24] <xuniL_> any one who could help me with this problem
[06:24] <xuniL_> http://pastebin.com/394486
[06:24] <killers> ??
[06:24] <Armagguedes> hm does anyone here have kubuntu and is accessing the intarweb thru a 2200BG wifi card?
[06:24] <Chousuke> Ironfrost: hm.
[06:25] <Chousuke> what does it look like?
[06:25] <robin_2> xuniL_: Undefined references are linker errors, do you have set-up the lib path right?
[06:25] <robin_2> xuniL_: using configure..
[06:25] <xuniL_> i have runed the configure without any errors
[06:26] <robin_2> btw, you should not use for compiling :)
[06:26] <Ironfrost> chousuke: I'll come back in a few minutes once I've taken screenshots
[06:26] <robin_2> *not use root
[06:26] <DarkSeid7> ooh another thing.  Anyone notice that X is a hell of a lot SLOWER in Breezy?
[06:26] <DarkSeid7> both Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[06:26] <xuniL_> robin_2 why not?
[06:27] <xuniL_> just logged as root al the time... right now..
[06:27] <DarkSeid7> I was getting 2800 fps running GLX gears
[06:27] <libben> how do i check if i have the new updated x?
[06:27] <robin_2> xuniL_: because if the script for example runs rm -rf /lib you are in serious problems..
[06:27] <libben> xorg i mean
[06:27] <DarkSeid7> now I am gettin around 1700
[06:27] <robin_2> xuniL_: only run as root, when it is needed.
[06:27] <xuniL_> robin_2 heh...
[06:27] <xuniL_> okey..
[06:28] <xuniL_> will do...
[06:28] <xuniL_> any clue on the problem?
[06:29] <Firetech> what is wrong with HAL?
[06:29] <robin_2> xuniL_: hmm, well most of the time this means, It can't find the library (therefor undefined references).. so probably the configure script doesn't check it.
[06:29] <Firetech> just curious
[06:29] <cave> yay i got it!
[06:29] <DarkSeid7> firetech apparently a few things
[06:29] <cave> stupid mistake > At the run dialog i was typing Kate instead of kate 
[06:29] <xuniL_> robin_2 i have also got a other problem i cant change things in the kmenuedit...
[06:29] <cave> :P
[06:29] <robin_2> xuniL_: you could find out where those libraries are, and give it as parameter with the configure script.
[06:29] <xuniL_> i save as root but nothing happens
[06:29] <RichardC> is there anywhere i can find an updated sources list for kubuntu 5.10, like the one found at ubuntuguide.org?
[06:29] <DarkSeid7> I have ZERO usb support after doing a dist-upgrade
[06:30] <Firetech> My devices doesn't show up in KDE (desktop and konqueror @ media:/)
[06:30] <Firetech> might be the HAL stuff
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> USB devices?
[06:30] <Firetech> devices = USB devices
[06:30] <Chousuke> yeah 
[06:30] <robin_2> xuniL_: why not, are the fields disabled ?
[06:30] <Chousuke> that's HAL
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> DING DING DING
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> give that man a cupie doll
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> thats the problem
[06:31] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: see topic.. they are working on it.
[06:31] <xuniL_> robin_2 fields disabled
[06:31] <xuniL_> ?
[06:31] <cave> robin, i edited the file like you said
[06:31] <cave> remember? to mount my hard drives?
[06:31] <Firetech> they mount OK if I run ivman in the background (manually with pmount should work too)
[06:31] <robin_2> Cave yes?
[06:31] <robin_2> cave and it didn't work ?
[06:31] <DarkSeid7> ooh I know they are
[06:32] <DarkSeid7> I tried an early fix yesterday
[06:32] <cave> Could not mount device. The reported error was: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist
[06:32] <cave> this is what igot when i clicked the desktop icon that popped up
[06:32] <DarkSeid7> hey for a free O/S it's not like I am complaining
[06:32] <DarkSeid7> if I have to use my camera I just drop into Gnome
[06:32] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.
[06:32] <robin_2> Cave oh, simple create /mnt/windows, or whereever you like it to be mounted.
[06:33] <robin_2> and about the newline, just add an extra enter, after the last line.
[06:33] <robin_2> *enter= newline.
[06:33] <cave> how do i do that ?
[06:33] <robin_2> cave sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[06:33] <DarkSeid7> so besides K/ubuntu anyone else excited about Cedega 5.0 coming out?
[06:33] <DarkSeid7> I am giddy 
[06:33] <Firetech> I get these strange lines filling my syslog now and then since my upgrade to breezy:
[06:33] <Firetech> Oct 15 18:28:34 barbaque kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[06:33] <Firetech> Oct 15 18:28:34 barbaque kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:33] <Firetech> I first get pressed and then released, and I can't figure out what it is, any ideas?
[06:33] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: what's special about it ?
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> from the rumor mill FULL DX9 support as well as Pixel Shader 1.4 and Vertex Shader support
[06:34] <Firetech> I should add that I don't press any keys to get it...
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> which means in English a whole lot more games will be working
[06:34] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: that is the free version ?
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> pay for version
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> it's worth the $5 a month
[06:34] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.
[06:34] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: hmm, don't like to pay.
[06:34] <cave> ok not i dont get an error anymore
[06:34] <cave> *now i don't
[06:34] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: I got windows for the games :)
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> for $5 a month it's worth every penny
[06:34] <Firetech> robin_2: you can download it illegally too ;)
[06:35] <cave> but the drive has no files in it.. so that can't be right
[06:35] <Chousuke> robin_2: pay up.
[06:35] <DarkSeid7> I trashed windows on EVERYTHING I own
[06:35] <DarkSeid7> and am happy as a clam
[06:35] <Chousuke> robin_2: not like 5 dollars a month will drive you bankrupt.
[06:35] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: well i got windows legal, so ..
[06:35] <DarkSeid7> just got done converting my iPaq to Familiar Linux w/ the Opie desktop
[06:35] <Chousuke> robin_2: so?
[06:35] <robin_2> Chousuke: no it will not, but i don't like subscriptions...
[06:36] <robin_2> Chousuke: so what 
[06:36] <robin_2> cave: ehm, what does 'sudo mount' gives ?
[06:36] <roguejedix> Er, what repository contains w32 codecs for Breezy?
[06:37] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root, yet I can sudo on the commandline.
[06:37] <cave>  /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)    proc on /proc type proc (rw)    sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)   devpts on /dev/pts type devpts   (rw,gid=5,mode=620)  tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)  usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)  tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type  tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)  tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[06:37] <robin_2> !sudo
[06:37] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:37] <cave> removed line breaks to send
[06:38] <robin_2> !kdesu
[06:38] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[06:38] <cave> how o i undo that hda5 thing i did? now its a phantom drive :S
[06:38] <robin_2> :D
[06:38] <robin_2> just edit /etc/fstab
[06:38] <robin_2> and replace it with the correct one..
[06:39] <satafterh> hello all, i have a question, i installed kde 3.5 and harddrive no longer showing in sytem folder, how do i get it back??
[06:39] <cave> this isnt working
[06:40] <cave> its just screwing things up further
[06:40] <cave> i have 2 new drive icons on my desktop
[06:40] <cave> one gives an error when i click, the other is empty
[06:41] <robin_2> cave open konsole, and type sudo mount
[06:41] <robin_2> cave what does it say (paste in pastebin)
[06:42] <cave> ok
[06:43] <cave> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394516
[06:44] <robin_2> and what is in /etc/fstab
[06:44] <cave> from the original, i just added this line:   /dev/hdb       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=000       0       0 
[06:44] <robin_2> ok, and if you type in konsole mount -a
[06:45] <robin_2> than you should have files in /mnt/windows
[06:46] <cave> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing codepage or other error      In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try    dmesg | tail  or so
[06:46] <robin_2> cave ok, go to konsole and type sudo fdisk -l
[06:47] <robin_2> and paste the contents in pastebin.
[06:47] <cave> what will that do?
[06:47] <robin_2> list all the partitions 
[06:48] <cave> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394523
[06:48] <cave> everything looks fine...
[06:48] <robin_2> ah right
[06:48] <robin_2> i see
[06:48] <robin_2> in /etc/fstab you have /dev/hdb
[06:48] <robin_2> change it to /dev/hdb1
[06:49] <cave> ok.. and what about my fat32 partition in hda?
[06:50] <cave> thats the one all my files are in... hdb is just a windows install
[06:50] <robin_2> i'm not serious, but think you should replace 'ntfs' with 'fat' and you can remove ro. (because fat is writable in linux)
[06:50] <robin_2> eh
[06:50] <robin_2> i'nm not certain
[06:50] <Sgep> What's kdesktop_lock?
[06:51] <robin_2> cave /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows2    fat    user,umask=000       0       0
[06:51] <robin_2> and first sudo mkdir /mnt/windows2
[06:51] <Sgep> kdesktop_lock crashed
[06:51] <robin_2> Sgep: to lock your screen..
[06:52] <Sgep> Should I do `apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[06:52] <Firetech> does anyone here know any good database of scancodes for keyboards (Logitech Cordless Keyboard preferably)
[06:52] <cave> can the filename have spaces in it?
[06:52] <Ironfrost> Chousuke (or anyone else who is able to help): I edited .bashrc and it seemed to work, but the compiler script is still telling me that the file does not exist
[06:52] <Ironfrost> http://pastebin.com/394524
[06:52] <robin_2> cave which filename?
[06:52] <cave> like instead of windows and windows2, can i have windows (NTFS) and windows (FAT32)?
[06:52] <Ironfrost> it tells me: 
[06:52] <Ironfrost> /bin/sh: pgf90: command not found
[06:53] <robin_2> cave, ehm well don't use it, you ahve to escape the spaces with a \.. use underscores instead of spaces.
[06:53] <cave> ok
[06:53] <Sgep> Can I restart without my computer blowing up?
[06:53] <cave> so windows_NTFS and winfows_FAT32 it is
[06:53] <Ironfrost> but pgf90 does exist
[06:53] <Ironfrost> when I just type it in from bash or sh
[06:54] <robin_2> winfows ;)
[06:54] <robin_2> cave ok, know edit /etc/fstab
[06:54] <orangey> hmmm.
[06:54] <robin_2> cave and run mount -a again.
[06:54] <orangey> kubuntu should likely ship with a lower hal right now
[06:54] <robin_2> cave it should work :) i think.
[06:54] <robin_2> orangey: yes, the one in RC1.
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, why is it shipping with a newer one?
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, it's actually broken right now.
[06:55] <robin_2> orangey: I dont' know, but RC1 was working..
[06:55] <robin_2> *did work.
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, strange..
[06:55] <robin_2> orangey: yes
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, are you using the rc package now?
[06:55] <orangey> aseigo!!!!!!!!!!
[06:55] <_martin> Q: I have managed to mount a nfs folder in my home directory, but althought i have assigned read AND write, I can only read. This is my fstab: 10.0.0.3:/home/server  /home/martin/server    nfs          rw            0    0 --- and this is my /etc/exports:/home/martin/ *(rw,async,all_squash)
[06:56] <robin_2> orangey: No, i'm just waiting till the fix it.. and i hope it will be soon..
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, it can't be.
[06:56] <robin_2> _martin: ntfs writing is not possibl
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, ubuntu works with the newer one.
[06:56] <cave> ok... HDB is working now!
[06:56] <cave> but for hda1... mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, actually, it is. it's just dangerous
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, and I think they're waiting till kde 3.5 comes out..
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, since that *does* support the newest hal / dbus
[06:57] <robin_2> orangey: before they fix it..
[06:57] <robin_2> orangey: wtf.. 
[06:57] <_martin> But there is an option for writeable in the options
[06:57] <orangey> robin_, writing to ntfs is possible, just dangerous
[06:57] <robin_2> orangey: yeah, i mean the hal stuff.
[06:58] <orangey> _martin, there are lots of kinds of NTFS that aren't really well documented by MS. So, it's hard to write a driver that knows how to identify them and write to them.
[06:58] <orangey> _martin, so for quite some time, writing was considered a fool's sport. Today, it is simply risky
[06:58] <cave> i tried changing fat to fat32 but i got the same error (unknown filesystem type 'fat32' )
[06:58] <orangey> cave: vfat?
[06:58] <orangey> robin_2, well, who do we talk to about getting that fixed?
[06:58] <cave> i'll try that
[06:59] <roguejedix> Er, why won't amaroK play anything in Breezy?
[06:59] <cave> yay thank you!
[06:59] <cave> worked now
[06:59] <robin_2> orangey: see topic, they are working on it.. and i hope it will be fixed before dapper.
[06:59] <cave> what the fuck is vfat? >_>
[06:59] <robin_2> cave: indeed i think it is vfat
[06:59] <_martin> orangey: But that was not the question... I have mounted another ext3 filesystem to my computer (ext3) NOT NTFS
[06:59] <_martin> NFS
[06:59] <_martin> filesharing
[06:59] <orangey> _martin, what is your question?
[07:00] <orangey> cave: the name for fat32
[07:00] <orangey> robin_2, yeah.. didn't spot it : )
[07:00] <orangey> robin_2, this is why I recommended that my friends not upgrade to breezy for a week or two : )
[07:00] <_martin> orangey: how to make it writeable
[07:01] <robin_2> orangey: yeah, but they should have delayed the kubuntu release, it is __NOT__ stable.
[07:01] <orangey> _martin, Ok, start from the beginning, since I obviously came too late.. are we talking about ntfs?
[07:02] <orangey> robin_2, but did they know that before release day?
[07:02] <_martin> orangey: not NTFS, but a ext3 filesystem on another computer mounted with nfs
[07:02] <orangey> since ubuntu is gnome-driven, I think it's expected that kubuntu will always have some hiccups.. think of that admin mode bug
[07:02] <robin_2> orangey: yes, I mentioned it ion bugzilla.
[07:03] <orangey> _martin, well, you don't need to specify.. if you have write permissions, you write.
[07:03] <robin_2> orangey: but that's not the only problem.. kaffeine is also very _unstable_..
[07:03] <orangey> robin_2, well, it's "stable" if you put xine and disable arts : )
[07:03] <orangey> but you're right.. it doesn't work out of the box AT ALL
[07:03] <_martin> orangey: I have managed to mount a nfs folder in my home directory, but althought i have assigned read AND write, I can only read. This is my fstab: 10.0.0.3:/home/server  /home/martin/server    nfs          rw            0    0 --- and this is my /etc/exports:/home/martin/ *(rw,async,all_squash)
[07:04] <robin_2> orangey: try fullscreen with xine, and it crashes.. at least by me.
[07:04] <_martin> orangey: but as you see, I DO HAVE set the right write permissions
[07:04] <_martin> orangey: so that's the problem...
[07:04] <robin_2> orangey: and kaffeine with xine engine, won't let you open a file, if one is allready opened or playing.. it crashes too...
[07:05] <nikki_a> _martin, erm, that doesn't look right
[07:05] <robin_2> orangey: the only thing i'm really happy with is that with breezy I can finally use suspend-to-ram and hibernate on my laptop even when using ndiswrapper... 
[07:06] <orangey> _martin, try this from remote server: chmod gou+wrx /home/server/testfile
[07:06] <orangey> robin_2, what kind of laptop?
[07:06] <orangey> robin_2, you need to disable your artsd
[07:06] <nikki_a> _martin: you are aware that the exports should be on the server, and should name the path of the server side, ie /home/server in this cas, right?
[07:06] <orangey> robin_2, the same thing happened to me till I did that..
[07:06] <cave> ok just one little thing now.. how do i delete that empty /mnt/windows folder?
[07:06] <orangey> nikki_a, good point.. he's talking about his fstab, though..
[07:06] <nikki_a> _martin: in what you've pasted, it almost looks like you're talking about the exports file on the local side, and even there, it has the wrong path
[07:07] <_martin> nikki_a:yes
[07:07] <nikki_a> orangey: its not an fstab issue, its a nfs exports issue
[07:07] <Kyaneos> hi
[07:07] <_martin> nikki_a:yes, just a typo here in the chat the actual path is /home/server
[07:08] <orangey> nikki_a, fair enough
[07:09] <robin_2> orangey: cheapo dell inspiron 1100
[07:09] <robin_2> cave first make sure you don't have anything mounted on it.. remove it with sudo rm -rf /mnt/windows
[07:09] <bonggnu> hi
[07:09] <robin_2> cave don't make a typo, or you are in serious trouble. :)
[07:10] <richard> Anyone install the Final Release of Breezy?
[07:10] <bonggnu> hi, i missed the proyect window in k3b, how could "call" it, to make a project
[07:10] <cave> thats the inverse command from sudo mkdir /mnt/windows? :P
[07:10] <robin_2> orangey: and where do you disable artsd ?
[07:11] <orangey> robin_2, system settings > sound server or such
[07:11] <robin_2> orangey: oh yes of course.
[07:11] <cave> yay it disappeared~ 
[07:11] <nikki_a> robin_2: using rmdir would be safer
[07:11] <robin_2> nikki_a: lol, didn't knew that command
[07:11] <bonggnu> where could i locate the config file of k3b of my user?
[07:11] <robin_2> nikki_a: will keep that in mind..
[07:11] <_martin> orangey: what you suggested worked.. i could write to that file... but I can't make new files and folders or stuff... or it's kinda lost it's point if I have to to that with all files... what to do?
[07:11] <robin_2> orangey: ok I will try it..
[07:12] <nikki_a> robin_2: well, rmdir won't do anything, other than print a message, if you forget to umount it :)
[07:12] <robin_2> nikki_a: ok :)
[07:13] <robin_2> yakuake is **really** cool 
[07:14] <torkiano> hello!! I upgrade to breeze and my serial-mouse don't work!!!! How can I configure it?
[07:14] <torkiano> Thanks
[07:14] <robin_2> torkiano: np
[07:15] <torkiano> i try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i can't choose the type of mouse
[07:15] <torkiano> :-(
[07:16] <robin_2> orangey: doesn't make a difference, it is still crashing when I try to open another file.
[07:16] <richard> I've had problems with the final release of breezy, seems the bugs that have been plaguing earler beta releases are still here.
[07:17] <robin_2> richard: plus new ones..
[07:17] <richard> Wifi can't be enabled or disabled, on my system in administrator mode. . . 
[07:18] <richard> I'm using Ubuntu now and it's pretty sweet, even thought I prefer KDE. 
[07:18] <_martin> orangey: do I have to do that command you gave me to the root folder to get it working?
[07:18] <robin_2> richard: I hate gnome, it is just plain ugly :)
[07:18] <richard> Why did they release the final of breezy with major bugs?
[07:18] <_martin> orangey: I mean the /home/server folder
[07:18] <orangey> _martin, that command is a bad general idea.. but it'll help you debug permission issues
[07:19] <robin_2> richard: really no idea.. 
[07:19] <_martin> ok
[07:19] <_martin> orangey: so how make the whole of my /home/server writeable to me on the other computer?
[07:19] <richard> Ubuntu isn't ugly if you download and install desktop backgrounds, different Icon sets, and Splash screens. 
[07:20] <richard> I've got a ton of these on my computer now, and it looks very nice. 
[07:20] <robin_2> richard: I have used ubuntu hoary with different themes for about 5 months, I really dislike it..
[07:20] <robin_2> richard: but that is my view :)
[07:20] <torkiano> anyone can help me? My mouse doesn't work!! Downgrade to hoary? :-(
[07:21] <orangey> _martin, well, you have to rule out permissions problems.. so make a *subdirectory* globally writeable (777; gou+wrx)
[07:21] <orangey> then if that works, you'll know it's a permissions problem.
[07:21] <orangey> if not, then it's another problem.
[07:21] <richard> Well, to each his own, I'd use KDE if they can get it to function properly. . ..I need WiFi connectablility!!!!!
[07:22] <richard> I had the newest Version of Suse 10 on my system last week and it was pretty good. Much more improved over earlier versions. . . . 
[07:22] <robin_2> richard: but those wifimanager are only frontends to command like tools, if you can get it to work in ubuntu it should work in kubuntu too.
[07:22] <robin_2> richard: suse is nice, too bad It isn't debian based :)
[07:23] <frank23> richard: If the kde wifi tool doesn't work, you can install gnome-system-tools  and run network-admin
[07:23] <woddf2> Where do I get KGpg?
[07:24] <richard> I can't enable my wifi in the administrator mode. It enables for about 1 sec. then goes back into disable. . .
[07:24] <woddf2> apt-get couldn't find it.
[07:24] <frank23> richard: network-admin should work
[07:24] <robin_2> richard: I had that too, but I just use wpa_supplicant and ifconfig wlan0 up.. that seems to work (with ndiswrapper)>.
[07:25] <frank23> richard: in hoary the kde wifi config didn't work and that's what I did. I thought they fixed it but maybe not ....
[07:25] <woddf2> Neither Adept nor apt-get could find KGpg. Where do I get it?
[07:25] <frank23> woddf2: its in universe
[07:25] <woddf2> Oh
[07:25] <richard> I'll keep working on it. . . . 
[07:26] <woddf2> How do I add the universe repository?
[07:26] <frank23> woddf2: in adept go to manage repositories and enable universe
[07:26] <richard> Good chating to you all. . . .got to run. . ..day is short and this computer came burn up the hours. 
[07:27] <woddf2> I went to Manage Repositories but I didn't find the universe repository.
[07:27] <woddf2> Oh, I see it now.
[07:27] <robin_2> woddf2: look again :)
[07:28] <cave> how do i download mp3 playback support for amarok?
[07:28] <cave> i got mpeglib but that didnt do it
[07:29] <frank23> cave: gstreamer0.8-mad is supposed to add mp3 support
[07:31] <cave> cant find that one in the repositories
[07:31] <frank23> cave: either in universe or multiverse
[07:32] <robin_2> cave: in universe
[07:34] <woddf2> It worked!
[07:34] <woddf2> Thanks
[07:34] <elementarmy> how do i get mp3 playback on amaroK?
[07:34] <robin_2> gstreamer0.8-mad is supposed to add mp3 support
[07:35] <robin_2> elementarmy: you can find it in the universe repositories..
[07:35] <elementarmy> wheres that?
[07:35] <robin_2> elementarmy: enable them in your package manager.
[07:35] <elementarmy> cool thanks
[07:36] <frank23> if  gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't work, amarok-xine definitly works
[07:37] <cave> meh.. cant find either.. ive enabled all universe an dmultiverse repositories
[07:38] <robin_2> cave you have updated them ?
[07:38] <robin_2> cave apt-get update
[07:39] <cave> oh! stupid me :P
[07:39] <cave> sorry guys... i'm new to linux -.-
[07:39] <elementarmy> i cant find ether of them
[07:40] <robin_2> elementarmy: ask cave :)
[07:40] <cave> elementarmy: on the oolbar, click on adept >> fetch updates
[07:40] <elementarmy> already did that
[07:40] <cave> oh
[07:40] <cave> then i dunno :X
[07:41] <cave> did you do hat after enabling the sources?
[07:41] <elementarmy> yes
[07:41] <cave> *that
[07:41] <robin_2> robin@kubuntu:/mnt$ apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mad
[07:41] <robin_2> gstreamer0.8-mad - MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer
[07:42] <robin_2> robin@kubuntu:/mnt$ apt-cache search amarok-xine
[07:42] <robin_2> amarok-gstreamer - GStreamer engine for the amaroK audio player
[07:42] <robin_2> amarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player
[07:42] <robin_2> they are there really
[07:42] <robin_2> and sorry for the paste..
[07:42] <elementarmy> also how could i login as su
[07:43] <robin_2> sudo su
[07:43] <elementarmy> can i change the password?
[07:43] <robin_2> !root
[07:43] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:43] <robin_2> !sudo
[07:43] <ubotu> I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:43] <robin_2> take a look there.
[07:44] <elementarmy> cool iam root :-)
[07:47] <cave> yay xine worked
[07:50] <troth> can someone give me link for a good dowloading and installing tutorial because i am just not understanding this
[07:50] <frank23> cave: in amarok you mean? did gstreamer0.8-mad not work?
[07:50] <tenco> hi! ive updated now my second box to breezy. now kdm doesnt work anymore!
[07:50] <frank23> !tell troth about repos
[07:50] <tenco> is this a known problem? how can i fix it?
[07:50] <cave> nope... but maybe i just didnt set it up properly... 
[07:51] <robin_2> troth: what do you want to install ?
[07:51] <cave> is there a reason to choose gstreamer over xine anyways?
[07:51] <tenco> on the first system i updated kdm worked but X was slow like hell until i rebooted the box two times
[07:51] <troth> i want to get a bit torrent program going so i can slowly phase windows out more and more
[07:51] <frank23> cave: no, I never use gstreamer at all
[07:53] <ph8> hey guys, got a couple of quick newbie questions apologies in advance:
[07:53] <frank23> troth: you can install ktorrent easily. azureus is a bit harder but not too much
[07:53] <ph8> I'm trying to find out how much free disk space i had - though the command was 'quota' - obviously not?
[07:53] <ph8> 2. I want to stop something in init.d starting, i heard there's a binary for this?
[07:53] <frank23> ph8: df
[07:53] <ph8> ty
[07:54] <troth> i tried apt-get of bit tornado and regular old bit torrent, but i dont know where they went or how to apply them
[07:54] <robin_2> troth: there are some bittorrent clients in the repositories.. which pacakge manager do you use?
[07:54] <troth> bit tornado
[07:54] <robin_2> troth: try ktorrent
[07:54] <troth> k
[07:55] <robin_2> it will be placed in the internet category in the k-start menu
[07:55] <robin_2> troth: you know how to download with adept or apt or synaptic ?
[07:55] <frank23> !bum
[07:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[07:56] <frank23> ph8: you can use bum for the init.d scripts
[07:56] <troth> i have kynaptic, but yes ive learned the commands for installing but i dont really know what happens after that
[07:57] <robin_2> troth: synaptic works better IMHO.. anyway normally the new program shows up in the menu.. or you have to search for it :
[07:59] <troth> ok ktorrent does not show, should i look for synaptic?
[08:00] <cave> hey does rhythmbox run in kde?
[08:00] <robin_2> troth what if you type in konsole : ktorrent
[08:01] <troth> bash: ktorrent: command not found
[08:01] <pussfeller> i added some custom keyboard mappings to xkb and when I upgraded, now xceyboard-config is messed up and i have no virtual term
[08:01] <robin_2> troth: hmm, than you havent' installed it (correctly).. well type in konsole: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:01] <robin_2> and after that use synaptic.
[08:01] <pussfeller> gnome wont even boot at all
[08:01] <robin_2> to install ktorrent
[08:01] <troth> k
[08:02] <pussfeller> why would you wanna run rthymbox...
[08:03] <pussfeller> but yeah it will if you install it
[08:05] <troth> no results for ktorrent in synaptic either
[08:06] <apokryphos> troth: enable the universe repository
[08:06] <troth> k
[08:06] <Originoo> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Originoo> universe
[08:06] <apokryphos> not sure if it's on hoary, though
[08:06] <robin_2> troth: ah, you have't enabed universe
[08:07] <robin_2> !universe
[08:07] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[08:07] <robin_2> !repositories
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[08:07] <troth> how do i enable pls
[08:07] <robin_2> ok open synaptic
[08:07] <apokryphos> troth: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line with "universe"
[08:08] <apokryphos> *lines
[08:08] <robin_2> go to settings
[08:08] <robin_2> click repositories
[08:08] <robin_2> and select the entries who have the universe section..
[08:08] <robin_2> or manually edit the files as apokryphos said.
[08:09] <troth> there is no repositories in the settings tab
[08:10] <apokryphos> troth: if you're using synaptic, use the link above -- it explains it for you
[08:10] <troth> k
[08:15] <troth> ok so i am basically opening all the repository sies that are available?
[08:15] <apokryphos> not all; you just wanna enable Universe
[08:15] <troth> k the link seems different than the version i have
[08:16] <tenco> why does the nvidia module for X lack TNT2 support in breezy?
[08:16] <troth> You are adding the "universe" component.
[08:16] <troth>  Packages in this component are not supported. Are you sure?
[08:16] <apokryphos> troth: then just edit the file as I suggested
[08:16] <troth> when i add a shaded link in the repositories list it gives this warning: k
[08:17] <troth> k ill try the edit
[08:17] <apokryphos> troth: alt+f2 -> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <troth> Command 'kwrite/etc/sources.list' not found.
[08:20] <[square] > how to use katapult?
[08:20] <troth> the edit command errored out too
[08:20] <apokryphos> troth: put in exactly what I said :)
[08:20] <apokryphos> !tell [square]  about katapult
[08:21] <insanekane> [square] : use Alt+Space, or Ctrl+space to activate it ... then start typing something (e.g. type Kopete)
[08:21] <troth> you're right i must have typed wrong
[08:21] <troth> k got it open
[08:23] <troth> says this http://pastebin.ca/25610
[08:24] <troth> so i want to delete the 2 links that end with universe correct?
[08:24] <woddf2> Haldo
[08:24] <woddf2> How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?
[08:24] <apokryphos> troth: you're on hoary?
[08:24] <troth> yes
[08:24] <apokryphos> troth: you won't be able to get ktorrent anyway
[08:25] <apokryphos> it's only in Breezy
[08:25] <troth> lol ok
[08:25] <apokryphos> troth: but it's good to enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[08:25] <apokryphos> troth: remove the "#" from the repositories that have Universe
[08:26] <apokryphos> troth: and add "multiverse" to all the lines that have universe, too
[08:26] <orangey> where do I report kubuntu bugs??
[08:26] <apokryphos> bugzilla
[08:26] <orangey> THE bugzilla?
[08:26] <apokryphos> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <orangey> thanks
[08:26] <woddf2> How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?
[08:26] <troth> k just the 2 in the middle correct?
[08:27] <apokryphos> troth: yup
[08:27] <troth> k
[08:28] <woddf2> No one is paying attention.
[08:28] <troth> k now reads as follows http://pastebin.ca/25611
[08:28] <Originoo> woddf2: kmix
[08:29] <woddf2> What should I do in kmix?
[08:29] <apokryphos> troth: why did you add multiuniverse?
 troth: and add "multiverse" to all the lines that have universe, too
[08:30] <apokryphos> troth: I said add "multiverse"; so for example the first line in that part would read:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[08:30] <troth> oh sorry
[08:30] <troth> read wrong
[08:30] <woddf2> I still don't know what to do in KMix.
[08:30] <apokryphos> even though in physics the postulated multiverse encompasses the universe :P
[08:30] <Originoo> woddf2: smoething u want to do to configure your card
[08:31] <troth> k they read multiverse
[08:31] <apokryphos> troth: save it and close kwrite; then in terminal: sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <woddf2> There's just the menu bar followed by "Current mixer: [blank, unclickable combination box] "
[08:31] <woddf2> .
[08:31] <Originoo> woddf2: your question was just how to configure....
[08:31] <woddf2> It didn't detect it when I installed it.
[08:32] <troth> k done
[08:34] <raingrove> how do i do a screencapture under kubuntu
[08:34] <woddf2> raingrove: ksnapshot
[08:35] <woddf2> raingrove: It's under Graphics -> Screen Capture Program (KSnapshot).
[08:36] <troth> so how do i get a torrent program going?
[08:38] <apokryphos> troth: do you have a good internet connection?
[08:39] <troth> yes t2
[08:39] <apokryphos> I'd suggest you upgrade to breezy then -- it's the latest stable version of Ubuntu
[08:41] <Phobos> Where are the config files for katapult?
[08:41] <raingrove> woddf2,  Thanks
[08:42] <troth> apokryphos: is there an apt-get command or anything easy like that?
[08:42] <apokryphos> yup; here's a guide:
[08:42] <apokryphos> !breezyupgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:42] <troth> perfect thx
[08:43] <apokryphos> troth: you'll want to use the Apt-Get method, ideally
[08:44] <troth> k, learining the shell eficiently is mainly why im switching
[08:44] <woddf2> How do I install a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[08:45] <troth> install w/o verification?
[08:45] <woddf2> ...or configure
[08:45] <woddf2> ?
[08:45] <apokryphos> woddf2: you might have more luck with non-kde-related questions in #ubuntu
[08:45] <daveg67> heres a tricky question?!?!  My wireless pcmcia wireless card works fine only after I unplug it and then plug it in again.
[08:47] <daveg67> It also worked fine without the unplug replugin dance under ubuntu, but when I switched to kubuntu it needs to be popped out and then back in again.
[08:47] <troth>  Kbps! w00t
[08:47] <troth> 113
[08:49] <daveg67> it was doing the same thing under 5.04 as it is still doing it under 5.10
[08:50] <daveg67> anybody else have a similar problem?
[08:51] <_victor> ola
[08:52] <daveg67> hi
[08:53] <whig> hello
[08:53] <Firetech> How can you inactivate the spelling checker in konqueror (forms)
[08:53] <Firetech> ?
[08:53] <whig> just upgraded my laptop from kubuntu 5.04 to 5.10, sound stopped working...
[08:53] <whig> is there a known issue?
[08:54] <whig> no apparent errors in logs, as far as diagnostics look, sound should be up, just no sound
[08:57] <cave> meh... i put a shortcut to the trashcan on the desktop but it only shows the " full" icon even when its mepty
[09:05] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:06] <craft4> hi
[09:15] <kkathman> Good day all :)
[09:17] <mifritscher_> hi
[09:19] <kihaji> sudo is not working for me at all
[09:20] <hussam> should I install krita 1.4.2 from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php or is krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy enough?
[09:23] <kkathman> sudo doesnt work??
[09:23] <kkathman> never heart of that
[09:23] <kkathman> heard
[09:26] <kihaji> I guess my user wasn't added to the sudoers file on install.
[09:26] <kihaji> it's fixed now.
[09:29] <Latem> does apt-get resolve dependancies? for example, if X requires Y, does "apt-get install X" also install Y if I dont have Y?
[09:29] <hussam> Latem: yes it will do that
[09:29] <Latem> ok tahnks
[09:30] <kkathman> Latem:  No, typically you do an apt-get install, and then it will tell you what things might be missing.
[09:30] <kkathman> sorry hussam, thats not been my experience
[09:30] <Latem> i didt get that?
[09:30] <Latem> cant u elaborate
[09:31] <Latem> like if I do apt-get install X, it will comlaint cant do it due to failed Y dependacy?
[09:31] <kkathman> apt-get will get the package that you ask, however, if, for instance a library is required that hasnt been installed, it doesnt guarantee it
[09:31] <kkathman> Adept is better at that tho
[09:31] <Latem> oh so Adept can hadle it though?
[09:31] <kkathman> but it wont hurt anything
[09:32] <kkathman> you'll just get an error to get a particular package
[09:32] <kkathman> But, in many cases, you might get everything
[09:32] <hussam> kkathman, Latem: apt-get will resolve dependencies. for example apt-get install X will ask if you want to install x and y
[09:32] <Latem> that would be nicer
[09:33] <Latem> like urpmi does that exact thing
[09:33] <Latem> so i was wandering
[09:33] <hussam> should I stick to krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy or do I upgrade to 1.4.2 from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php ?
[09:34] <jrattner1> Why does my i686 kernel crash whenever i modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:36] <kkathman> hussam: I would steer you to the man apt-get and let you read that.
[09:37] <Latem> it says it resolves dependancies
[09:37] <Latem> in the man page
[09:37] <hussam> kkathman: well I'm just talking from experience. I've been pretty happy with apt-get
[09:38] <Latem> "All packages required by the package(s) specified for installation will also be retrieved and installed. '
[09:38] <Latem> under install argument
[09:38] <hussam> Latem: a simple apt-get check will tell you if there are broke packages.
[09:39] <Latem> ok i see\should have looked for a man page on the net 1st
[09:39] <Latem> =[
[09:41] <poimen> were is located make in kubuntu?
[09:41] <poimen> tring to install vmware
[09:42] <raingrove> poimen, make is not included in basic installation
[09:42] <raingrove> install this package -> build-essential
[09:43] <poimen> ok
[09:43] <poimen> thankx
[09:43] <poimen> installing them
[09:43] <hussam> poimen: you'll need the linux-headers for your kernel as well for vmware if I recall correctly.
[09:44] <poimen> I am using breezy
[09:44] <poimen> whta should I use
[09:44] <poimen> ?
[09:45] <raingrove> linux-headers-2.6.12.9-386
[09:45] <kkathman> hussam:  I use apt-get exclusively and its usually quite reliable, and it does its best to get everything but there are somethings it has no control over :)
[09:45] <raingrove> linux-headers-386
[09:45] <kkathman> I'd rather use apt-get than any automated package manager, personally :)
[09:45] <sproingie> aptitude for me
[09:45] <sproingie> better dependency handling
[09:47] <hussam> kkathman: can you help with something? I wanna know if I should upgrade from krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy to krita 1.4.2
[09:47] <poimen> ok someone has vmware here working on kubuntu breezy?
[09:48] <poimen> because I get also a error abou gcc
[09:48] <raingrove> what exactly is the error
[09:49] <hussam> poimen: apt-get install g++-3.4 gcc-3.4 ( breezy kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 )
[09:52] <poimen> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[09:52] <poimen> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[09:52] <poimen> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[09:52] <poimen> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[09:52] <poimen> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[09:52] <poimen> that is the exact error
[09:52] <poimen> :(
[09:52] <hussam> poimen: do this: sudo apt-get install g++-3.4 gcc-3.4 ( breezy kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 )
[09:53] <hussam> then export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:53] <poimen> ok installing packages now
[09:54] <hussam> what was the pref I add to make apt-get use proxy? anybody knows?
[09:58] <poimen> same error :(
[09:58] <hussam> did you export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:58] <poimen> yeah
[09:58] <poimen> :(
[09:58] <hussam> in the same konsole window?
[09:58] <poimen> yeah
[09:59] <huaning> I have trouble with NXclient
[09:59] <Phantom^^> hi guys what programs can i use for dvd playback other than kaffeine i'm getting real jerky playback in kaffeine so i was wondering if there were any others that i could use?
[10:00] <poimen> Phantom^^ you drive has dma enabled?
[10:00] <YHCIR`> does anyone know where i can get the kubuntu bacground image, as in this screenshot: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=470&slide=4&title=kubuntu+5.10+official+screenshots
[10:01] <poimen> now It worked
[10:01] <poimen> :)
[10:01] <poimen> I had to oto the export thing in the sam efolde of the vmware install lol
[10:01] <poimen> I did cd before 
[10:05] <Riddell> YHCIR`: it's on the default breezy install
[10:06] <YHCIR`> i dont have kubuntu or ubuntu, i use mandriva
[10:06] <YHCIR`> i just liked the background :)
[10:12] <WMCoolmon> hey, i'm having a problem burning a DVD iso with k3b; it says ":-[ SET STREAMING failed with SK=5h/ASC=26h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error"
[10:12] <toxix> hello
[10:13] <toxix> how can i install any software in kubuntu?
[10:13] <toxix> in ubuntu i use synaptic
[10:13] <WMCoolmon> try kynaptic
[10:13] <olwin_> kynaptic in hoary , adept in breezy
[10:13] <Originoo> u can also use synaptic too
[10:14] <toxix> adept fits me 
[10:14] <toxix> thx
[10:15] <WMCoolmon> hmm, how does one go about upgrading to breezy?
[10:15] <toxix> how can i install ati radeon drivers?Is all the same in ubuntu and kubuntu??
[10:16] <frank23> toxix: ubuntu has gnome and kubuntu kde
[10:16] <frank23> !tell toxix about ati
[10:16] <toxix> i know
[10:17] <frank23> !tell WMCoolmon about upgrade2breezy
[10:18] <toxix> how can i make kubuntu to use better display refresh rate?
[10:18] <toxix> there is no such option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <frank23> toxix: can you change it in system settings?
[10:19] <toxix> i can use max 85 hz
[10:19] <kina> hallo
[10:19] <toxix> i know my monitor supports 99
[10:19] <WMCoolmon> thanks frank23 
[10:19] <frank23> toxix: well you can change the Horizfreq and vertrefresh in xorg.conf 
[10:20] <frank23> toxix: if you you know your monitors specs.
[10:20] <toxix> frank23 i know, but i cant find needen lines in xorg.conf
[10:21] <kina> hallo
[10:21] <Originoo> toxix: which resolution?
[10:21] <toxix> 1024x768
[10:21] <laser_tk> I lost in konqueror that bar, where's Location, Edit..etc. are. What I can do?
[10:22] <frank23> toxix: you're right... I don't have those lines anymore either
[10:22] <frank23> toxix: I find 85Hz is plenty though
[10:22] <toxix> i know
[10:22] <toxix> but 99Hz i better
[10:22] <toxix> anyway ill find it out later
[10:23] <Originoo> toxix: which monitor do you use?
[10:23] <toxix> compaq v710
[10:23] <bhna> nabend
[10:23] <toxix> be back in a sec
[10:29] <craft4> i tried to install the nvidia drivers and get this error msg http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/82 - can someone help me ?
[10:34] <frank23> craft4: do you have an ati card or nvidia?
[10:35] <frank23> craft4: because the error is a conflict between fglrx drivers and nvidia drivers I think
[10:35] <craft4> nvidia geforce fx go
[10:37] <frank23> craft4: did you install the fglrx drivers before?  anyways try to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx if you have it
[10:37] <frank23> and what are the 158 packages not upgraded?
[10:38] <craft4> dont know about the 158 not upgraded packages, but i uninstalled the xorg-driver now
[10:39] <frank23> craft4: try to install nvidia now then
[10:39] <craft4> the nvidia driver installation works now -  thx :-)
[10:40] <libben> im trying to understand why gimp and adept are not showing themselves in the menu... and why i dont have some programs installed that should be installed with breezy.
[10:40] <frank23> craft4: you had the ati drivers installed ;-)
[10:41] <craft4> <-- linux newbie   ;-p
[10:48] <Firetech> is there no way of disabling the kde spell checker, I get disturbed b the red text :/
[10:53] <Firetech> found it
[10:54] <`Nomad> Hi..  My logs are full of this message:  [4320786.415000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:55] <Mighty96> How can I check my motherboars temperatures? It's chip's cooler keeps annoying sound so I'll check how much it's temperature grows if slow it from BIOS or just take it off
[10:55] <`Nomad> a bug?
[10:59] <parzol> hello
[10:59] <`Nomad> hi
[10:59] <parzol> anybody from poland??
[11:01] <`Nomad> Nobody here but us chicken. :)
[11:02] <cave> craft4: you got hardware acceleration working?
[11:03] <craft4> uhm, dont know? how can i check ? 
[11:04] <cave> oh.. i tought i read you did
[11:04] <ubuntu> test
[11:05] <Riddell> ubuntu: working :)
[11:05] <Arthus> thx :)
[11:05] <cave> uuh you can test by trying to play Tuxracer or something :P
[11:05] <cave> if it runs smoothly then you got it
[11:05] <fatejudger> does anyone know that mac osx screensaver clone?
[11:06] <_mrmarcel> hallo
[11:06] <_mrmarcel> hrt mich wer
[11:06] <Arthus> damn it breezy really rocks
[11:06] <`Nomad> Arthus: Yup!! :)
[11:06] <craft4> cave: i am still stuck - i got a tutorial howto setup but i am not able to edit the xorg.conf (the tutorial say to remove load "dri" from the section "Module"
[11:07] <`Nomad> fatejudger: Which one?  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&hs=0as&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=mac+os+x+screensaver+clone&spell=1
[11:10] <cave> where did you find the tut?
[11:10] <fatejudger> `Nomad: I tried googling it
[11:11] <fatejudger> `Nomad: I couldn't find it
[11:11] <craft4> it is a german forum: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/1611/HOWTO-nVidia-Treiber--Systemoptimierung.html
[11:13] <cave> oh.. well that doesnt help me then :3
[11:13] <fatejudger> `Nomad: it's called Flurry, I had it in Hoary, but it was erased when I formatted and installed Breezy
[11:13] <fatejudger> `Nomad: I forget which package it was
[11:14] <fatejudger> `Nomad: wait, this is a Windows screensaver
[11:15] <craft4> cave: you said tuxrace - where can i get this ?
[11:15] <_P_> hi 
[11:16] <fatejudger> craft4: adept
[11:18] <craft4> ist this a package or something else?
[11:19] <fatejudger> craft4: yes, it's a package
[11:19] <fatejudger> craft4: search for tux racer
[11:19] <cave> just ype tuxracer on the quickfilter
[11:19] <cave> its supposed to be a really fun racer
[11:19] <_P_> hi 
[11:19] <fatejudger> frozen bubble is more fun
[11:19] <_P_> someone using openoffice2 on amd64 ?
[11:19] <fatejudger> no
[11:20] <cave> i wouldn't know, because i couldnt get it to work on my hardware yet ^^
[11:20] <fatejudger> openoffice2 doesn't work on amd64s?
[11:20] <_P_> fatejudger:  no, after the nex upgrade
[11:20] <_P_> *next
[11:20] <_P_> *sorry , last
[11:20] <fatejudger> Breezy?
[11:20] <_P_> yes
[11:21] <fatejudger> I don't think they use a very new version of OO2
[11:21] <craft4> i use synapsis and can't finde tux racer nor frozen bubble, guess i do something wrong
[11:21] <fatejudger> synaptic?
[11:22] <craft4> yes synaptic
[11:22] <fatejudger> do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[11:22] <cave> its in universe/games
[11:24] <fatejudger> I don't understand why Kubuntu doesn't have the OO2 RC2
[11:24] <fatejudger> it's been out for awhile
[11:24] <`Nomad> Does Amarok play streams from the net?
[11:25] <craft4> hmmm ...  universe / multiverse ? how can i enable that ?
[11:25] <craft4> and where ?
[11:25] <`Nomad> fatejudger: i found that this version crashed too often on me, I installed version 1 again
[11:25] <fatejudger> repositories
[11:25] <fatejudger> it's under some menu
[11:25] <fatejudger> `Nomad: version 1?
[11:25] <fatejudger> `Nomad: that's increadibly dated
[11:26] <poimen> someone here using vmware on kubuntu?
[11:27] <fatejudger> why would anyone want vmware?
[11:27] <poimen> because I work for a company tha use windows apps to prepare financial analisis to clients
[11:27] <poimen> and I I dont use windows on vmware I will use it in a partition
[11:28] <poimen> what I dont want to to fo
[11:28] <poimen> do*
[11:28] <poimen> to do*
[11:28] <xiglet> what repositories should I use to get mplayer with win32 codecs? (breezy)
[11:31] <raingrove> poimon / why not try whether it works on wine?
[11:32] <craft4> fatejudger: thank i found it and installed the racer, i will test it now, when i find the installation path  :-p
[11:35] <fatejudger> craft4: it goes in the KDE menu
[11:35] <slow-motion> n8
[11:35] <craft4> wasn't in the KDE menu, but i found it and i have about 1 - 2 fps 
[11:36] <xtacocorex> quick question, i'm running hoary and kopete is slow when you click on a person's name to im them any reason why or is it just that way on this distro?
[11:37] <poimen> someone here using vmware on kubuntu?!!!
[11:37] <antgel> i'm trying to browse an nfs share in konqueror. i'm typing nfs://neil/home. i get auth failed, neil auth not supported. i can mount the nfs share fine with the mount command.
[11:37] <antgel> poimen: ask a better question
[11:38] <poimen> ok I get thi error when i lunch vmware and I have done that step like 5 times
[11:38] <poimen> vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[11:38] <poimen> for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
[11:38] <poimen> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[11:39] <poimen> and I have done that like 5 times and it continues to show me that output
[11:39] <chavo> poimen, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[11:40] <chavo> the relevant part is 6.
[11:41] <poimen> ok thankx
[11:41] <poimen> :)
[11:42] <antgel> let's start with something easier. is konqueror nfs: browsing even supported?
[11:44] <chavo> antgel, not sure about that
[11:45] <poimen> chavo you are from heaven thankx alot vmware opened fast as hell!
[11:45] <antgel> this is a joke. i can see a million settings to do with fucking samba and nothing for nfs
[11:45] <chavo> poimen, don't tell everyone my secret :)
[11:47] <poimen> lol
[11:48] <antgel> for those of you who care, it is apparently supported using something called lisa
[11:48] <poimen> chavo you speek snpanish?
[11:48] <chavo> un pocito
[11:48] <poimen> ohh I see
[11:48] <poimen> by your nick I thouhg you were from mexico
[11:49] <chavo> antgel, lisa is in the repos
[11:49] <xtacocorex> antgel, i had to use lisa when i ran FC4, but was never successful at getting that or samba to work
[11:49] <libben> 5.10rc was release candidate?
[11:49] <xtacocorex> and somehow i screwed up my samba config because now i can't connect to my wife's computer
[11:50] <chavo> poimen, no it's a nickname that kind of stuck. but I got it from a bunch of friends who are from Mexico
[11:52] <jrattner1> Is there an automatic update "watcher" similar to the one in gnome for KDE
[11:52] <antgel> the face that lisa has to be installed on the server sucks so hard it's incredible
[11:53] <antgel> i had a girlfriend called lisa once...
[11:53] <antgel> about whom i could _not_ say the same
[11:53] <antgel> jrattner1: i'd like to know that as well. i understood that adept has it, but i couldn't find it. didn't look too hard though
[11:55] <poimen> I see