[01:57] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--production--1.37: Merge production 1.37 up to patch-2659 (patch-2: rocketfuel@canonical.com, guilherme.salgado@canonical.com, christian.reis@canonical.com ...)
[02:02] <segfault> Hi.
[02:02] <segfault> any dev around?
[02:38] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: r=kiko Fix for bug 2979: Reporting a bug without filling in distribution field gives Oops. Makes field required, adds a pagetest and changes user auth on pagetests to use an unprivileged used. Fix for bug 2571: Trying to subscribe while already subscribe should inform that you already are subscribed. Makes the menu link text slightly less confus ing when user is not logged in.  Fix for bug 2569: 'Top co
[02:55] <Mez> hey, can i get a product removed please
[02:55] <Mez> kiko: ping
[03:03] <jblack> Mez: What's going on? 
[03:05] <Mez> I just want to delete a product from launchpad
[03:05] <Mez> It no longer exists
[03:05] <Mez> https://launchpad.net/products/ubp-hoary-unofficial/
[03:06] <Mez> I created it for malone, but now it no longer exists, we dont need it
[03:06] <Mez> or at least dont need it showing on the project pae
[03:06] <Mez> page
[03:06] <Mez> jblack, are you able to do that
[03:14] <Mez> spamgourmet.com?
[03:27] <jblack> I can't, but I can forward it to someone who can. :D
[03:28] <Mez> :D
[03:28] <Mez> ty
[03:28] <jblack> I must be a cool guy in your book today.
[03:29] <jblack> So, when are you guys moving katapult to bzr? 
[03:30] <Mez> as soon as you get the bug fixed and I can find a nice intro guide (or get time to write one)
[03:30] <Mez> no
[03:30] <Mez> to baz
[03:30] <Mez> not bzr
[03:30] <Mez> :D
[03:30] <Mez> :P
[03:30] <Mez> or is it bzr
[03:42] <jblack> There's a few good pieces of documentation for bzr. :) 
[03:42] <jblack> What sort of documentation are you looking for? 
[03:44] <jblack> mez: ?
[03:44] <Mez> just a basic howto (sorry didnt notice it go off till you said my name
[03:44] <Mez> was reading through UBZ specs
[03:50] <jblack> There's the main tutorial, and the single developer howto
[03:52] <jblack> Both of them are at bazaar.canonical.com, in the Bzr section (See the menu bar on the right)
[04:34] <Keybuk> gnargh!  "Searching for best merge point" has been going for 12 minutes now !("*$(!*$"
[04:34] <Keybuk> I CAN FIGURE IT BY HAND IN LESS THAN THIRTY SECONDS YOU MORON OF A MACHINE!  It's a branch with three patches and no merges on it!
[05:17] <jblack> Its looking really hard. ;) 
[06:17] <Keybuk> hey, at least it didn't pick Celso's branch
[07:41] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=stub]  replace ManifestEntry patch_on with parent that can apply to all types of entry (patch-2662: scott@canonical.com)
[08:34] <sivang> Morning all
[08:34] <sivang> Keybuk: LOL
[08:47] <sivang> hey stub , 'sup?
[08:48] <stub> packing
[08:49] <stub> I hate packing
[08:52] <zyga> morning
[08:54] <sivang> stub: packing? where are you going?
[08:54] <sivang> stub: me too, btw
[08:55] <stub> I'm taking the bus to UBZ so have to leave earlier than everyone else
[08:55] <sivang> bus ?
[08:55] <sivang> bus from.au to .ca ?
[08:55] <sivang> I didn't know there is land connecting between the two :)
[08:56] <stub> Ok. You caught me out. I'm going to Bangkok.
[08:56] <sivang> hehe
[08:57] <sivang> TRying to fool me, eh? you already know I will believe almost anything ;-)
[08:57] <sivang> stub: and from there you're coming to UBZ? cool
[08:57] <sivang> stub: have a nice trip
[08:58] <stub> Indeed. 30 degrees in Bangkok -> 0 in Montreal. Which more than doubles the amount of cloths I need to bring since the cold stuff is bulkier :-/
[08:58] <stub> Where are you off to?
[08:59] <sivang> stub: I'm off to nowhere :) Well, the only nice destination for me currently is UBZ, which I look forward to visit/
[09:00] <stub> Ohh... you hate *packing* too.
[09:00] <sivang> hehe
[09:00] <sivang> I hate it because I know I will always forget something, no matter what
[09:00] <sivang> zyga: morning :)
[09:01] <sivang> stub: but then again - there's always the workaround of packing 3 days in advance, then you get to remind in the lost details until you leave 
[09:41] <zyga> :-)
[11:48] <mdke> i'm getting a lot of errors from launchpad today when I try and save translations in rosetta
[12:40] <sabdfl> moin moin
[12:40] <sabdfl> spiv: all ok?
[12:53] <sabdfl> SteveA: i'm curious how to make a context menu appear on a page?
[01:04] <sabdfl> ah. give it a facet.
[01:10] <dmk> hey guys, whats the best way to mark a feature request up to sourceforge
[01:10] <sivang> hey sabdfl , still dizzy ? :)
[01:10] <dmk> I take it I will just have to add the link in the comment as Malone wont be able to track it
[01:10] <sabdfl> sivang: somewhat
[01:12] <sivang> lol
[01:14] <sivang> sabdfl_still_diz: did you get the nice news? It appears that one of our contacts over IBM has succeded in completing the certifications tests, meaning we are getting the Ready For Db2 soon, and the official certification :-)
[01:14] <sabdfl_still_diz> sivang: jane told me and i'm extremely excited!
[01:17] <sivang> sabdfl_still_diz: I have more on the list, as noted in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportingMarketTechnologies. Oracle is next on my list :)
[01:17] <sabdfl_still_diz> do they have a strong r&d presence in israel?
[01:19] <sivang> sabdfl_still_diz: they do to some good degree. Most of the the big players do, such as CA, HP etc.. Most of them have research labs in and out of the big unis
[01:19] <sabdfl_still_diz> is that how you will contact them initially?
[01:25] <sivang> sabdfl_still_diz: however, for the others, I might approach them through the local labs here.
[01:30] <Mez> where can i fiel a bug in rosetta
[01:30] <Mez> for rosetta
[01:54] <KeithWeisshar> why does launchpad require https
[01:55] <sivang> KeithWeisshar: well, it uses this primarily to store credentials information that you pass to it in order to login, as a start.
[01:56] <KeithWeisshar> why do i get a popup window saying client requires identification, select certificate
[01:57] <KeithWeisshar> do you ask for any billing information
[01:58] <KeithWeisshar> on the website
[01:59] <KeithWeisshar> i'm not a developer
[02:01] <Mez> KeithWeisshar, no they dont
[02:04] <KeithWeisshar> are the ubuntu 5.10 cd's ready for shipment from shipit
[02:04] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: not well-formed (invalid token): line 88, column 76
[02:05] <Mez> KeithWeisshar, -> #ubuntu
[02:05] <KeithWeisshar> is there a way of shipping the CD's directly to the computer user group at a specific time and date, the meeting is only once per month
[02:06] <Mez> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/
[02:24] <kiko> hey hackers
[02:25] <sivang> hey kiko  (althoug I'm not a launchpad hacker ;-) )
[02:25] <kiko> that's not what SteveA tells me
[02:35] <mdke> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-dev/+poll/tb-nomination-mjg59-2005/+option/1 gives me the "oops" screen, is this known?
[02:36] <mdke> I'm not in the right team to vote, but i thought that it should tell me that
[02:38] <jordi> hola hola amigos
[02:39] <kiko> let me check
[02:41] <kiko> mdke, I think it's a known issue, but let me try getting this fix in before the sab goes ballistic
[02:48] <zyga> mdke: maybe 3168
[02:49] <zyga> #3168
[02:49] <zyga> Ubugtu: #3168
[02:49] <zyga> hello, what does trigger that?
[02:49] <zyga> bug 3168
[02:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3168: Creating pool option crashes the pool Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: neuman, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3168
[02:49] <zyga> ah okay
[02:49] <kiko> zyga, there's another one too
[02:49] <kiko> neuman has both
[02:50] <zyga> kiko: I see
[02:51] <sabdfl_still_diz> hey kiko
[02:51] <kiko> hey mark
[02:51] <sabdfl_still_diz> how sao carlos today?
[02:51] <kiko> how goes it?
[02:51] <kiko> it's kinda hot and clammy
[02:51] <sabdfl_still_diz> hiya jordi
[02:51] <kiko> we're nuking those bugs
[02:52] <kiko> gotta fix some poll bugs now
[02:52] <sabdfl_still_diz> ah. mjg59 will be grateful :-)
[02:53] <sabdfl_still_diz> i'm trying to land this soyuz ui
[02:53] <sabdfl_still_diz> great review from spiv
[02:53] <kiko> too many martinis, sabdfl_hungover? :)
[02:54] <sabdfl_hungover> tolerance of a child, i have
[02:54] <sabdfl_hungover> 3 beers, 2 glasses of champagne, and i felt like i'd had a bottle of vodka
[02:54] <sabdfl_hungover> kiko: so are you thinking like i'm thinking, that we will need to bring a pie or two to montreal?
[02:55] <kiko> matsubara, bug 759 and 2478 are still open -- I landed the latest ones yesterday evening but those still need work
[02:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #759: re-duping an already duped bug causes system error. Fix req. for: malone (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Diogo Matsubara, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/759
[02:56] <kiko> sabdfl_hungover, well, I feel like an albatross, but it's the 15th of october and we have all heard the story about the software engineer who comitted to a deadline
[02:56] <kiko> it was an unfair bet
[02:56] <sabdfl_hungover> which pie are you referring to?
[02:56] <kiko> the baz pie
[02:56] <sabdfl_hungover> i'm thinking of lifeless' "rocketfuel on bzr" pie
[02:56] <sabdfl_hungover> yes... so what was oct 15? i thought the deadline was oct 29?
[02:56] <kiko> that's the only pie as far as I'm aware of
[02:57] <kiko> it is
[02:57] <kiko> that means 14 days including travel for some
[02:57] <sabdfl_hungover> rob may be traveling with a few spare batteries then
[02:57] <kiko> I am not forseeing rocketfuel-on-bzr operating in production in the next 14 days
[02:57] <kiko> (nor in the next 30)
[02:58] <kiko> but instead of pretending I'm the evil nostradamus of software I'll go back to merging fixes from the interns :)
[02:58] <sabdfl_hungover> yesterday, 60 new people submitted translations through rosetta, who had never done so before
[02:58] <lifeless> magic 8 ball says, the fat lady hath not sung.
[02:58] <lifeless> sabdfl_hungover: you have to bring a pie.
[02:59] <lifeless> sabdfl_hungover: we just dont know whose face it will be on. kiko is all doom and gloom, cause he doesn't want a second pie :)
[02:59] <sabdfl_hungover> lifeless: will import one specially
[02:59] <kiko> hey
[02:59] <kiko> I don't care about pies at all
[02:59] <kiko> bring em on
[03:00] <kiko> taking a pie is a very small hit compared to the daily pain baz inflicts on 15-odd people
[03:00] <sivang> lol
[03:00] <kiko> I will gladly sacrifice clean clothes and dignity for that
[03:00] <kiko> so either way
[03:00] <kiko> I win
[03:00] <kiko> :)
[03:01] <salgado> kiko, can you reproduce the traceback you pasted in https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3168?
[03:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3168: Creating pool option crashes the pool Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: neuman, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3168
[03:03] <kiko> salgado, have you tried visiting the link in the bug?
[03:03] <kiko> hey gneuman 
[03:03] <kiko> merge time
[03:04] <salgado> kiko, if you go to https://launchpad.net/people/moturuby/+poll/elect-team-leader/, what happens?
[03:05] <kiko> salgado, I see two, identical options:
[03:05] <kiko> #  Frederic Logier
[03:05] <kiko> # Frdric Logier
[03:05] <kiko> oh
[03:05] <kiko> one with accents, one without
[03:05] <kiko> my god this font is driving me crazy
[03:05] <salgado> that problem is already fixed
[03:05] <salgado> but not yet in production
[03:05] <gneuman> kiko pong
[03:06] <kiko> salgado, are you merging gneuman's fixes?
[03:07] <jordi> sabdfl_hungover: hey man. I see you had some fun last night :)
[03:07] <salgado> kiko, I fixed that and already merged
[03:07] <sabdfl_hungover> somewhat, jordi, and fun for everybody else this morning :-)
[03:07] <salgado> kiko, that was the fix you asked me to translate
[03:07] <jordi> haha
[03:07] <kiko> salgado, ah, right
[03:07] <kiko> salgado, cherry-pickeroo
[03:08] <jordi> IRCing while drunk is something everyone should try at least once in their lives :)
[03:09] <Mez> jordi: definately :D
[03:10] <Mez> In fact, I think I'll go and get the vodka :P
[03:11] <Mez> anyone here can remove a product for me ?
[03:12] <sivang> laterz all, be back in the evening
[03:13] <gneuman> kiko, i belive 3068 and 3168 have many small things together
[03:13] <gneuman> some of them are already fixed
[03:13] <jordi> Mez: did you find out where to file bugs against rosetta?
[03:14] <jordi> Mez: just in case, http://launchpad.net/products/rosetta should have all the links you need
[03:14] <jordi> ie, go to the Bugs tab, "file new bug"
[03:14] <Mez> jordi: yes I did :d
[03:14] <jordi> Mez: good
[03:14] <Mez> and I ifiled it too
[03:14] <jordi> my backlog is quite long
[03:15] <jordi> I need to assassinate someone in my ISP
[03:15] <jordi> Oct 15 15:12:40 nubol postfix/smtp[12307] : 49EAE70A746: to=<debian-gtk-gnome@lists.debian.org>, relay=none, delay=437, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=lists.debian.org type=MX: Host not found, try again)
[03:16] <Mez> lol
[03:18] <Mez> hmm I feel that in the next year or so, any bugs or anything I'm gonna be looking in malone for
[03:18] <Mez> godamnit, it's happening now near enough
[03:18] <Mez> move over bugzilla
[03:20] <Mez> btw, can i confirm that all lp emails will now be coming from *.offby1.spamgourmet.com 
[03:21] <Mez> s/\*\.offby1\.spamgourmet\.com /\*\.offby1@spamgourmet\.com 
[03:24] <kiko> Mez, spamgourmet?
[03:25] <Mez> yeah
[03:25] <kiko> are our outgoing mails coming through there?
[03:25] <Mez> spamgourmet.com
[03:25] <Mez> kiko: well I've got an email regarding a bug that seems to have been sent through launchpad from spamgourmet.com
[03:26] <Mez> it was the initial bug report
[03:27] <Mez> oh, it;'s coming from a users email
[03:27] <Mez> I was just wondering why it came from the users email instead of bugs.launchpad.net
[03:28] <kiko> because you were CC:ed on the bug?
[03:28] <Mez> It was sent to the mailing list
[03:29] <Mez> which is the contact address for the team thats the maintaner for the product that the bug was filed on
[03:37] <lifeless> gnight
[04:36] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  PersonSet.topPeople() should use PersonSet.getAllValidPersons() (patch-2663: guilherme.salgado@canonical.com)
[04:56] <gneuman> SteveA, 
[05:20] <kiko-afk> hey gneuman 
[05:21] <gneuman> kiko 
[05:22] <kiko> why is PQM not receiving my merge request?
[05:22] <kiko> hmmm
[05:23] <gneuman> duno
[05:23] <kiko> it's there now anyway
[05:25] <gneuman> yep
[05:25] <gneuman> i just sent again
[05:25] <gneuman> cause i had lost it somehow
[06:11] <kiko-afk> lifeless, why does PQM silently drop my merge request?
[06:26] <sabdfl_hungover> so kiko-afk, how do i use your lint checker?
[09:47] <Diablo-D3> hey all
[09:48] <Diablo-D3> how do I list all bugs I've filed in malone?
[09:49] <mdke> go to people/you then click bugs i suppose
[09:49] <mdke> ah no
[09:51] <Diablo-D3> hrm wtf
[09:51] <Diablo-D3> me -> bugs -> bugs I've reported
[09:51] <Diablo-D3> thats retarded
[10:16] <sabdfl> retarded how?
[10:18] <sabdfl> Diablo-D3: ^?
[10:20] <Mez> hmm... is it a bug if the upgrade to breezy causes the default FF homepage to dissapear
[10:33] <mdke> Mez, yep
[11:08] <Diablo-D3> back
[11:09] <Diablo-D3> sabdfl: I mean that its overely complex
[11:09] <Diablo-D3> sabdfl: and not obvious
[11:11] <arkalon> must agree, I struggled a while myself before I found it there
[11:11] <arkalon> in fact, I didn't expect the sidebar to change, but it did ;)
[11:12] <Diablo-D3> yeah
[11:12] <Diablo-D3> that doesnt make sense either
[11:12] <Diablo-D3> the sidebar should never change
[11:12] <arkalon> guess it's a context sensitive sidebar...
[11:13] <arkalon> unusual
[11:15] <Diablo-D3> no kidding
[11:15] <Diablo-D3> and imo its unwanted
[11:15] <Diablo-D3> though, hey, if these are launchpad's worst problems, launchpad is lightyears ahead of bugzilla
[11:16] <arkalon> would like to have a more advanced bug search functionality, though
[11:16] <Diablo-D3> so would I
[11:16] <arkalon> maybe there is one already?
[11:16] <Diablo-D3> well, Im actually not sure what it could do more
[11:16] <Diablo-D3> you can enter a bug number directly, you can name bugs
[11:17] <arkalon> can you search by author, regexp etc.?
[11:17] <Diablo-D3> you can search by keywords
[11:17] <arkalon> can you search by package?
[11:17] <Diablo-D3> you can already search by author, though its backwards
[11:17] <Diablo-D3> and yes, you can search by package
[11:17] <Diablo-D3> you go to the author's page and click on bugs, and its all the bugs he filed
[11:18] <Diablo-D3> and you go to the package/project/whatever page, and you can search by bug on that
[11:18] <arkalon> mmh, so I assume you can search for names somewhere?
[11:18] <Diablo-D3> hrm
[11:18] <Diablo-D3> dunno
[11:18] <arkalon> well, I mean by package, e.g. for ubuntu
[11:18] <Diablo-D3> I think you need to know the name of the user first
[11:18] <arkalon> like package linux-meta
[11:18] <arkalon> or package aptitude
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> let me look
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu
[11:19] <arkalon> I would like to go "which bugs did alan cox file against the kernel last week"
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> all bugs in ubuntu
[11:19] <arkalon> i could do with some more bandwidth... gprs isn't exactly fast ;)
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu?field.searchtext=aptitude&search=Search&advanced=&status=10&status=20&assignee=all
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> all aptitude bugs
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> uh
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> wait, that aint right
[11:19] <Diablo-D3> neither of those areaptitude bugs
[11:20] <Diablo-D3> arkalon: I think we found a bug =P
[11:20] <arkalon> yaaayy!
[11:20] <Diablo-D3> wheres my favorite gay software developer at
[11:20] <Diablo-D3> Kinnison: you here?
[11:20] <Diablo-D3> guess not
[11:21] <arkalon> i really hope someone responds to the bug I've filed recently
[11:21] <arkalon> USB device problems in breezy :(
[11:22] <arkalon> kernel oopses are so ugly
[11:22] <Diablo-D3> inability to easily search by distro package, and the retardation in how user pages work
[11:22] <arkalon> what makes advanced search advanced?
[11:22] <arkalon> it looks just like normal search
[11:22] <Diablo-D3> nothing, apparently.
[11:23] <Diablo-D3> I like malone
[11:24] <arkalon> about the changing sidebar
[11:24] <Diablo-D3> thats the 2nd thing I mentioned
[11:24] <arkalon> maybe they can rather move any additional items (that currently just appear out of thin air)
[11:24] <Diablo-D3> which I'm filing first.
[11:24] <arkalon> to another sidebar
[11:24] <arkalon> on the left-hand side?
[11:24] <Diablo-D3> you can comment when I'm done =P
[11:24] <arkalon> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/linux-meta/+bug/3115
[11:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3115: meta (Ubuntu) - Kernel oops when unplugging USB device Fix req. for: linux-meta (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3115
[11:25] <arkalon> ^^ doh, guess I should have mentioned my kernel version
[11:25] <arkalon> hey, Ubugu is cool :)
[11:25] <Diablo-D3> you probably should ask in #ubuntu-dev about that one
[11:25] <arkalon> Ubugtu, even
[11:25] <arkalon> ah, yes, right
[11:25] <Diablo-D3> sounds serious
[11:25] <arkalon> it's a kernel bug
[11:25] <arkalon> don't know who should fix it
[11:25] <arkalon> not the ubuntu guys
[11:26] <Diablo-D3> dunno
[11:26] <arkalon> but it's fixed in newer kernel versions
[11:26] <Diablo-D3> ubuntu kernels  /are/ patched
[11:26] <Diablo-D3> which means they can either a) grab the patch upstream if it exists, or b) fix the bug themselves
[11:26] <Diablo-D3> or c) close as WONTFIX
[11:26] <arkalon> excellent
[11:27] <arkalon> mmh, there is only one user in ubuntu-dev...
[11:27] <Diablo-D3> er #ubuntu-devel
[11:27] <arkalon> that can't be right
[11:27] <arkalon> ah, ta ;)
[11:32] <arkalon> diablo-d3: what are the bug numbers?
[11:32] <Diablo-D3> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3206
[11:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3206: User pages' sidebars are context sensitive (usability bug) Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3206
[11:32] <Diablo-D3> just got that one done
[11:33] <arkalon> another bug?
[11:33] <Diablo-D3> yeah, a minor one
[11:33] <arkalon> why two?
[11:33] <Diablo-D3> something slightly related
[11:33] <Diablo-D3> but independant of this
[11:34] <Diablo-D3> actually, Ill just comment on this one
[11:34] <Diablo-D3> because the more I think about it, the more its related
[11:35] <arkalon> I made my comment too
[11:37] <arkalon> ah, glad to meet you Mr McFarland ;)
[11:41] <arkalon> Diablo-D3: why do I even have the option of "Edit Details" on your homepage?
[11:41] <arkalon> if the sidepanels are context sensitive, surely that shouldn't happen?
[11:43] <arkalon> is the only place to edit your jabber address by going to "managed e-mail addresses"?
[11:48] <Diablo-D3> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3206
[11:48] <Diablo-D3> read now
[11:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3206: User pages' sidebars are context sensitive (usability bug) Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Critical, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3206
[11:48] <arkalon> let me check it out
[11:51] <arkalon> looks better
[11:51] <arkalon> yes, keep related things in seperate boxes
[11:52] <arkalon> and don't add new items to old boxes
[11:52] <arkalon> i.e., keep boxes static as you move up the hierarchy
[11:53] <arkalon> simply add boxes for new contexts
[11:53] <Diablo-D3> yup
[11:53] <Diablo-D3> which is what I just did
[11:53] <Diablo-D3> assuming they follow my suggestion anyways
[11:53] <arkalon> heh
[11:54] <Diablo-D3> its an unwritten rule of the internet
[11:54] <arkalon> how well do they know you?
[11:54] <Diablo-D3> details on one side, editing on the other
[11:54] <Diablo-D3> well, Kinnison knows me
[11:54] <arkalon> agreed
[11:55] <arkalon> do you know what malone runs on?
[11:55] <Diablo-D3> 'runs on'?
[11:55] <arkalon> like zope?
[11:55] <arkalon> or python from scratch
[11:55] <Diablo-D3> dunno
[11:58] <ajmitch> zope3, iirc
[12:00] <lifeless> kiko-afk: its either not getting to pqm, or is not on the authorised list and has an invalid sender
[12:00] <arkalon> ah, k