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| jabra | http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jabra/breezy-docs.html | 05:02 |
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| jabra | a little something I wrote up | 05:02 |
| jabra | may be of use to someone | 05:02 |
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| jabra | anyone have docs on install flash that works ? | 05:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what part doesnt work? | 05:30 |
| jabra | uh swf doesn't load various swf's | 05:30 |
| robitaille | jabra, install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" from the multiverse repository (if you are using Breezy) | 05:41 |
| jabra | multiverse? don't see that in /etc/apt/source.list? | 05:44 |
| jabra | nm, sorry my mistake | 05:46 |
| jabra | music is broke after I install it | 05:48 |
| jabra | damn | 05:48 |
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| Liz | did yelp make it back as the default help menu reader? | 06:45 |
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| Madpilot | hi all | 06:50 |
| robitaille | hi Madpilot . So hows your computer? | 06:51 |
| Madpilot | well, I'm in Breezy now... | 06:51 |
| Madpilot | after dropping down to the command line and completing the upgrade w/ apt-get... | 06:51 |
| Madpilot | X crashed (or something) overnight | 06:51 |
| Madpilot | and wouldn't come back... | 06:51 |
| robitaille | apt-get is the only true way to dist-upgrade a computer. none of that fancy gui thing :) | 06:52 |
| Madpilot | heh | 06:52 |
| Liz | i do it both ways | 06:52 |
| Madpilot | the fancy gui thing didn't work anyway... | 06:52 |
| Liz | from the fancy gui :P | 06:52 |
| Madpilot | I've got a couple of complaints, though... | 06:53 |
| Madpilot | ;) | 06:53 |
| robitaille | I'm reinstalling the final Breezy of my laptop right now. Then the faimily PC will get the Breezy treatment tomorrow | 06:53 |
| Liz | i did my upgrade this morning | 06:53 |
| Madpilot | Muine no longer clears to the background with "ESC", and it doesn't appear in the notification area anymore... | 06:54 |
| robitaille | you are missing muine-plugin-trayicon from universe is my guess | 06:56 |
| Madpilot | ah, OK, checking Synaptic now... | 06:57 |
| Madpilot | that works, thanks. why the heck did they split that out into a seperate package? | 06:58 |
| robitaille | don't know. Don't use muine | 06:59 |
| Madpilot | wiki question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserComments <-- this is odd, not to useful, and should probably have been a forum post. Should I nuke it? | 07:00 |
| robitaille | yeah, I think it should go. | 07:02 |
| Madpilot | will do | 07:05 |
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| nickrud | Madpilot, the resticted format page really should be more explicit about disabling marillat, and explain why, I think | 07:25 |
| Madpilot | nickrud: it probably should... | 07:25 |
| Madpilot | do you want to edit it, or should I? | 07:25 |
| nickrud | Madpilot, sorry, I missed that. Take a look, will you :) | 07:32 |
| Madpilot | is there a way to get the wiki to produce coloured text? red, for example? | 07:36 |
| nickrud | no clue. I'm pretty much a newbie with wiki stuff. | 07:36 |
| Madpilot | I could do it in about 3 seconds with HTML/CSS, but wiki markup is such a kludge... | 07:37 |
| robitaille | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MoinMoinMarkupExamples | 07:38 |
| Madpilot | robitaille: why isn't that page linked to from the HelpOnEditing page? | 07:38 |
| robitaille | last item is about colours | 07:38 |
| robitaille | we have a HelpOnEditing page? | 07:39 |
| Madpilot | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing | 07:39 |
| robitaille | I'm a bit out of the loop for the wiki... | 07:39 |
| Madpilot | it's immutable, though | 07:39 |
| nickrud | it's moinmoin generic | 07:39 |
| Madpilot | robitaille: the colours thing only applied to table backgrounds, AFAIK | 07:39 |
| robitaille | I know, but it's a start | 07:40 |
| Madpilot | hmmm | 07:40 |
| Madpilot | <span style="color:red">Blathering</span> doesn't work, dammit... | 07:41 |
| nickrud | http://harmonies.tzone.org/RPGLex/index.cgi/DiffParser has colors | 07:42 |
| nickrud | don | 07:44 |
| nickrud | 't know python well, either :) | 07:44 |
| Madpilot | nickrud: that's inside code blocks only, I think | 07:44 |
| Madpilot | blasted wiki engine makes doing simple markup way too complex sometimes | 07:44 |
| nickrud | Madpilot, I saw that | 07:44 |
| nickrud | bold is better than nothing, I guess | 07:49 |
| Madpilot | bold is about the only formatting option we've got... | 07:49 |
| nickrud | is there a wiki channel? | 07:50 |
| nickrud | ah, #moin | 07:51 |
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| mdke | morning | 11:09 |
| Madpilot | hi | 11:10 |
| mdke | jbailey, no luck with that Makefile? | 11:28 |
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| rob^ | is the css still an outstanding issue? | 12:30 |
| rob^ | (with help.u.c) | 12:30 |
| mdke | yes | 12:33 |
| rob^ | ok, I'll take a look then :) | 12:33 |
| mdke | cool | 12:33 |
| mdke | thanks | 12:33 |
| rob^ | np | 12:33 |
| rob^ | mdke, have you seen /build/gnome/faqguide.css? | 12:35 |
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| mdke | rob^, yes | 12:51 |
| rob^ | I might mess around with that | 12:52 |
| mdke | rob^, best to work on the css before it is generated | 12:52 |
| mdke | not the one in build | 12:52 |
| rob^ | no good? | 12:52 |
| mdke | branches/breezy/generic/faqguide/faqguide.css | 12:53 |
| mdke | that's the right one i think | 12:53 |
| mdke | but the css issue is really the most minor right now | 12:53 |
| mdke | we could easily release with the current css | 12:53 |
| rob^ | so its just the css, the make file and rev history? | 12:54 |
| rob^ | is there any way to make html versions of the translations with the current make file? | 12:55 |
| rob^ | I guess not | 12:55 |
| mdke | no that's the problem | 12:56 |
| rob^ | I might have to have a think about how to tackle that one | 12:57 |
| rob^ | we should be able to do it with some messing around.. | 12:58 |
| rob^ | I'll have a look tomorrow | 12:58 |
| mdke | there are three problems with the Makefile right now | 12:59 |
| mdke | first it is generating three arch-specific versions of the faqguide | 12:59 |
| mdke | second it is not building translations | 01:00 |
| mdke | third, I would like it to build a one-page version as well as the multipage versions | 01:00 |
| mdke | plus, the revhistory thing | 01:00 |
| rob^ | I think the second (and maybe the first to boot) solution is to change where the xsltproc is pointing | 01:01 |
| rob^ | (the line) | 01:01 |
| mdke | possibly yeah | 01:01 |
| mdke | i will ask sean too | 01:01 |
| mdke | he'll know how to solve all 4 | 01:01 |
| rob^ | heh yeah | 01:01 |
| rob^ | I have an idea, I'll have a think about the best way to do it, if sean doesn't come up with something in the mean time I'll have a play tomorrow | 01:04 |
| mdke | cool | 01:04 |
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| mdke | have fun! | 01:06 |
| rob^ | yay | 01:06 |
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| froud | ping mdke | 05:34 |
| mdke | hi froud | 05:41 |
| mdke | i'm just about to go to the supermarket tho | 05:41 |
| froud | hi | 05:41 |
| froud | just quick question | 05:41 |
| froud | do you want three arches or not? | 05:41 |
| mdke | nope, cos they are all the same | 05:41 |
| froud | at present nobody did profile markups to support it | 05:41 |
| froud | OK | 05:41 |
| froud | np | 05:41 |
| froud | later | 05:41 |
| mdke | thanks matey | 05:41 |
| froud | when are you merging to trunk? | 05:42 |
| mdke | the main thing is the translations tho | 05:42 |
| mdke | next week hopefully | 05:42 |
| froud | Ok | 05:42 |
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| froud | ping mdke | 07:35 |
| mdke | froud, yo, just got your email | 07:37 |
| mdke | thanks a lot dude | 07:37 |
| froud | np, please test and let me know if it works for you | 07:37 |
| mdke | ok i will | 07:37 |
| mdke | that revhistory thing | 07:37 |
| froud | note your build depends on the xsl | 07:37 |
| mdke | is that a later version of docbook than is in breezy? | 07:37 |
| froud | not on ubuntu now | 07:38 |
| mdke | ah erm | 07:38 |
| froud | pls check docbook-xsl with apt-cahche | 07:38 |
| mdke | Version: 1.68.1-0.1ubuntu1 | 07:39 |
| froud | If not then you and team will have to bump breezy docbook-xsl ver | 07:39 |
| mdke | :/ | 07:39 |
| froud | :-) | 07:39 |
| mdke | we can't do that! | 07:39 |
| mdke | breezy has been released already | 07:39 |
| froud | well just you as team | 07:39 |
| mdke | hmm | 07:40 |
| mdke | is there no way to do that with an earlier version? | 07:40 |
| froud | yeah, but why when I have it in newer version would I want to do that | 07:40 |
| froud | break mdz's legs and it will get done? | 07:41 |
| mdke | can you tell me how? | 07:41 |
| mdke | i need to build the stuff on the linode server and it has Ubuntu | 07:41 |
| froud | yes, but then I may aswell do it myself | 07:41 |
| mdke | true | 07:41 |
| froud | just install the new version | 07:41 |
| mdke | I'd rather not play around with that unless I really have to | 07:42 |
| mdke | getting errors on the build btw | 07:42 |
| mdke | lots of this: | 07:42 |
| mdke | runtime error: file ../libs/faqguide-html-chunk-cust.xsl line 43 element call-template | 07:42 |
| mdke | xsl:call-template : template inline.boldseq not found | 07:42 |
| mdke | no result for ../generic/faqguide/C/faqguide.xml | 07:42 |
| froud | did you svn up on breezy | 07:43 |
| mdke | YES | 07:43 |
| mdke | oops | 07:43 |
| mdke | sorry caps | 07:43 |
| froud | Hmm sec | 07:43 |
| mdke | lines 40, 43 and 46 seem to be the problem | 07:44 |
| froud | oops my bad sec | 07:44 |
| froud | svn up | 07:46 |
| froud | I forgot to replace the import paths with those on an ubuntu system | 07:46 |
| mdke | testing | 07:46 |
| mdke | thanks | 07:46 |
| mdke | i'd really appreciate the thing being compatible with Ubuntu re 1.68 | 07:46 |
| mdke | given that it's an ubuntu repo | 07:46 |
| froud | Well it will not fail | 07:47 |
| froud | it will just output as it does now | 07:47 |
| mdke | yeah | 07:47 |
| froud | faq-DE is empty | 07:47 |
| froud | so I have taken it out of the faq: | 07:47 |
| mdke | empty? | 07:47 |
| froud | and C has XInclude errors | 07:48 |
| mdke | yeah i saw that | 07:48 |
| froud | Yah DE is a blank file | 07:48 |
| mdke | oh yeah | 07:48 |
| mdke | i'll sort that | 07:48 |
| mdke | thanks | 07:48 |
| mdke | i thought we'd sorted that already | 07:49 |
| froud | You will see in thr translations that the docbook localizations are automatically kickin in | 07:49 |
| froud | best example look at HE | 07:49 |
| mdke | ah that is cool | 07:49 |
| mdke | because in yelp they are ltr rather than rtl | 07:50 |
| froud | Just one of the advantage of Docbook Whahhaahha feel the power | 07:50 |
| mdke | yeah but still, yelp should do it automatically from the xml i reckon | 07:50 |
| froud | The yelp concept is nice, but it is too broken for production at present, MHO | 07:50 |
| froud | but I think you know my thoughts ... :-) | 07:51 |
| mdke | ok i'm going for dinner | 07:51 |
| mdke | yep | 07:51 |
| froud | me to enjoy | 07:51 |
| mdke | thanks again | 07:51 |
| froud | np | 07:51 |
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| mdke | jbailey, that Makefile stuff is done :) | 07:52 |
| mdke | shit we're gonna have to edit all the faqguide po's manually again | 08:18 |
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| jabra | here are some docs I wrote | 08:24 |
| jabra | http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jabra/breezy-docs.html | 08:24 |
| mdke | cool jabra | 08:25 |
| mdke | s/allocated/allocate | 08:26 |
| mdke | nice screenshots! | 08:27 |
| mdke | you could include instructions on how to do the partitioning via the installer I guess | 08:27 |
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| mdke | hey rob^ | 09:05 |
| mdke | the guide got a mention at http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2005101401026OPDT | 09:05 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-doc:Burglaptop] : Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Time to start thinking about Dapper | Projects on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Remember the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct first. | ||
| mdke | hey there burgs | 10:35 |
| Burglaptop | hello | 10:35 |
| === Burglaptop is thinking of Dapper | ||
| mdke | :) | 10:39 |
| === mdke is thinking of breezy translations | ||
| mdke | but hey, you're the ideas man :) | 10:40 |
| Burglaptop | if nobody dreams big, then we get nowhere | 10:40 |
| mdke | well actually i think that if we aim to do too much, we'll get nothing done, a bit like for Breezy | 10:41 |
| Burglaptop | hmm | 10:41 |
| mdke | hmm | 10:41 |
| Burglaptop | I think that was more lack of fully spec-ing everything out | 10:42 |
| Burglaptop | if the faqguide had been better speced other could have worked on it earlier | 10:42 |
| Burglaptop | and I kind of screwed the pooch with the quicktour | 10:42 |
| mdke | not sure dude | 10:42 |
| mdke | we have about 3 contributors right now | 10:42 |
| mdke | maybe 4 | 10:43 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 10:43 |
| Burglaptop | the issue was that we need to start specing in the next month | 10:43 |
| Burglaptop | to start writing as soon after UBZ as possible | 10:43 |
| mdke | ok i agree with that | 10:43 |
| mdke | except the UBZ bit | 10:43 |
| Burglaptop | you want to start writing earilier? | 10:44 |
| mdke | since only you are gonna be at UBZ, the specs will mostly have to be done in irc meetings/email | 10:44 |
| mdke | we can't do the specs at UBZ | 10:44 |
| Burglaptop | yes, I mean specing before UBZ | 10:44 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| mdke | we need a big fat meeting | 10:44 |
| mdke | ASAP | 10:44 |
| Burglaptop | you want me to organize it? | 10:45 |
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| mdke | heh | 10:45 |
| mdke | i would get jerome on it | 10:45 |
| mdke | but feel free | 10:45 |
| mdke | i would say, a short period of brainstorming/ideas, followed by gathering them together, followed by meeting | 10:46 |
| mdke | and we need to put to bed the UbuntuHelp/faqguide debate | 10:46 |
| Burglaptop | that is going to be the most contentious issue | 10:47 |
| mdke | yes | 10:47 |
| mdke | but in my opinion, apart from the "design a new help interface", actually the contentiousness is basically a matter of calling the doc a different name, and making it more user friendly | 10:48 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 10:48 |
| mdke | the two ideas are pretty reconcilable | 10:48 |
| Burglaptop | the Breezy faqguide talks a lot about hwat you need to add, but nothing about what is already on the system | 10:48 |
| mdke | yes that is true | 10:48 |
| mdke | that is the basic distinction we've been making between faqguide and userguide | 10:48 |
| mdke | perhaps they should be in the same document | 10:49 |
| mdke | btw did you see the good mention of the guide at http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2005101401026OPDT | 10:49 |
| mdke | ? | 10:49 |
| Burglaptop | I skimmed that and assumed he meant ubuntuguide.org (which seems to be down | 10:50 |
| mdke | i don't think so | 10:50 |
| Burglaptop | hmm, is up again | 10:51 |
| mdke | "onboard documentation" | 10:51 |
| Burglaptop | yes, I just read that | 10:51 |
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| Burglaptop | mdke, what your goals for dapper? | 10:52 |
| Burglaptop | ok, aboutubuntu for dapper needs some serious hacks | 10:54 |
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| Burglaptop | hey jjesse | 10:55 |
| jjesse | hiya Burglaptop | 10:58 |
| jjesse | wow there was a lot to catch up on after a week being gone | 10:58 |
| Burglaptop | how goes life in Kubuntu-land? | 10:58 |
| jjesse | Burglaptop just got back from a week being !internet on vacation w/ wife | 10:58 |
| Burglaptop | ah | 10:59 |
| mdke | Burglaptop, i don't really have any right now | 10:59 |
| mdke | better infrastructure in our repo i would say | 10:59 |
| mdke | maybe we could adopt the gnome-doc build system | 11:00 |
| Burglaptop | ok | 11:00 |
| Burglaptop | to be honest, translations and building docs are things I should care about but cannot seem to | 11:00 |
| jjesse | Burglaptop: i agree w/ you right now I would rather get the docs done then build them | 11:01 |
| Burglaptop | ok, just sent something to the list about About Ubuntu/browser start page for dapper | 11:06 |
| Burglaptop | ok, I think I sent enough stuff to the list for now | 11:12 |
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| Burglaptop | salut mpt | 11:20 |
| mdke | Burglaptop, tbh, i don't think the browser start page is going to be much our decision | 11:47 |
| Burglaptop | mdke, we can talk about it | 11:49 |
| mdke | true | 11:49 |
| Burglaptop | even if it isn't ours, we can think about it and present what we think is the best idea | 11:49 |
| mdke | but there is not a lot of point if we come to decisions and then other decisions are made over the top of us | 11:49 |
| Burglaptop | code speaks volumes | 11:50 |
| Burglaptop | I intend to start hacking something together with my brother before UBZ | 11:50 |
| mdke | okay | 11:50 |
| mdke | but be aware that they will probably employ professionals to do it | 11:50 |
| mdke | they tried to for breezy already but too late | 11:51 |
| Burglaptop | ya | 11:51 |
| Burglaptop | but the professionals they hire could come and talk to us, you know | 11:51 |
| mdke | they could | 11:51 |
| Burglaptop | mpt had designs on redesigning all of ubuntu.com | 11:51 |
| mdke | heh | 11:52 |
| mpt | redesigning? noooo | 11:52 |
| mpt | just minor improvements | 11:52 |
| mpt | like no longer playing hide-the-links | 11:52 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 11:52 |
| Burglaptop | and a much briefer front page | 11:53 |
| Burglaptop | but that is really more a job for the marketing team | 11:53 |
| mdke | hmm | 11:53 |
| mdke | it is really more a job for canonical employees | 11:54 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 11:54 |
| Burglaptop | should we pass the quicktour off to the marketing team? | 11:54 |
| mdke | if they want it | 11:54 |
| mdke | it's a quite young team right? | 11:55 |
| Burglaptop | it is a better fit for them | 11:55 |
| mpt | There's a marketing team?? | 11:55 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 11:55 |
| mdke | mpt, yeah, see lp | 11:55 |
| ajmitch_ | apparatnly | 11:55 |
| Burglaptop | lots of startup energy | 11:55 |
| Burglaptop | I expect a lot of that to simply die | 11:56 |
| mdke | it's another one of these teams that springs up | 11:56 |
| mdke | like new user network | 11:56 |
| Burglaptop | mdke, I think that we did well for this release | 11:56 |
| mdke | -doc? | 11:56 |
| Burglaptop | it is usually after the first energy dies that things fail. Observe the nun | 11:56 |
| mpt | or ubuntu-artwork | 11:56 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 11:56 |
| mpt | Burglaptop, the nun? | 11:56 |
| mdke | i think that jane and others at canonical have marketing well in hand tbh | 11:56 |
| mpt | the sun? | 11:57 |
| Burglaptop | mpt, New User Network | 11:57 |
| Burglaptop | mdke, you can never have enough marketing | 11:57 |
| mpt | yes, yes you can | 11:57 |
| mdke | yeah | 11:57 |
| mdke | bad marketing is counterproductive | 11:57 |
| Burglaptop | yes, I should have clarified that | 11:58 |
| Burglaptop | but Ubuntu has not yet hit that point, imo | 11:58 |
| mpt | For example, in Ubuntu's current state, TV advertisements declaring it as an alternative to Windows would be counterproductive | 11:58 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 11:58 |
| mdke | ok i'm off | 11:59 |
| mdke | ciao | 11:59 |
| mpt | tchau | 11:59 |
| Burglaptop | mpt, where do you want to go for dapper? | 12:00 |
| Burglaptop | doc-wise, I mean | 12:00 |
| mpt | the HelpfulHelp direction, I think | 12:01 |
| mpt | and DefaultHomePage | 12:01 |
| ajmitch_ | lovely, launchpad usability complaints filed as a critical bug :) | 12:01 |
| Burglaptop | mpt, you beaten bradb over the head for the new malone look yet? | 12:02 |
| mpt | Burglaptop, don't blame bradb or myself | 12:03 |
| mpt | We're operating under managerial constraints | 12:03 |
| Burglaptop | I see | 12:03 |
| Burglaptop | was that layout directed from above? | 12:04 |
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