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| gand | hi all | 01:17 |
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| gand | what about 5.10 PPC iso? | 01:17 |
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| gand | what about 5.10 PPC iso? | 01:59 |
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| enyc | dand: that was not released due to ''stupid bug'' r.er ltsp apparently | 04:33 |
| enyc | gand: that was not released due to ''stupid bug'' r.er ltsp apparently | 04:34 |
| enyc | r.e. ltsp | 04:35 |
| JohnnyCastaway | 10th install works fine now | 05:34 |
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| jsgotangco | hello | 07:59 |
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| Yagisan | \sh - you gave my multi-client-arch patches a test ? | 11:29 |
| \sh | Yagisan: ogra had..I was the test candidate ;) | 11:30 |
| ajmitch_ | hey Yagisan | 11:31 |
| Yagisan | G'day ajmitch_ | 11:31 |
| ajmitch_ | \sh: I hope you're looking at malone 3014 | 11:32 |
| Yagisan | \sh: amd64 server + i386 client ? | 11:32 |
| ajmitch_ | jabberd2 bug, shall I reassign to MOTUIM? | 11:32 |
| \sh | Yagisan: yepp | 11:32 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: moment | 11:32 |
| ajmitch_ | probably OT for here, but I'm sure that jabber has an educational use ;) | 11:33 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: leave it for motu....I think this behaviour is upstream.... | 11:34 |
| \sh | jabberd2 is a mess sometimes :( | 11:34 |
| ajmitch_ | ok | 11:34 |
| \sh | I'd set a bookmark to it | 11:34 |
| \sh | Yagisan: test case was | 11:35 |
| \sh | amd64 server, dhcp on amd64, connection from amd64 to lan via wlan... | 11:35 |
| \sh | client i386 -> pxe boot from amd64 server via wired lan, routing was done via wlan from amd64 | 11:35 |
| \sh | result: works ;) | 11:35 |
| \sh | very uncommon routing scenario...but hey ;) | 11:36 |
| Yagisan | \sh: excellent - I already deployed amd64 server + dhcp on amd64, but my i386 clients boot with etherboot | 11:36 |
| Yagisan | \sh: qemu isn't yet up to the task of extending the patch yet :( | 11:37 |
| \sh | Yagisan: well...at least there is a new + for edubuntu for the next release | 11:37 |
| Yagisan | \sh: yep, all we need now is local apps :) | 11:38 |
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| highvoltage | hi everyone | 04:18 |
| Yagisan | G'day highvoltage | 04:21 |
| highvoltage | Hi Mr Jones | 04:21 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage, only the government calls me that, even my family call me Yagisan :) | 04:22 |
| highvoltage | hehe | 04:22 |
| highvoltage | whenever i see someones surname is 'Jones' I think of the counting crows song | 04:23 |
| highvoltage | so saying Mr Jones at some stage is inevitable, at least i got it out of the way now ;) | 04:23 |
| Yagisan | the funny thing about having Jones as a surname is that the police don't think it is your real name | 04:24 |
| Yagisan | because it's such a popular surname | 04:24 |
| Yagisan | so whats up highvoltage ? | 04:25 |
| highvoltage | dreading monday, mostly. :) | 04:26 |
| highvoltage | i need to take a few days leave to relax but just haven't had the chance yet. | 04:26 |
| highvoltage | i think i just have to come to terms that i'm a workoholic | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | It's already monday here | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | you must like what you do then | 04:27 |
| highvoltage | lucky you, you're closer to friday :) | 04:27 |
| highvoltage | i do. intensely :) | 04:27 |
| highvoltage | then again, i like everything i do. if i can't enjoy what i'm doing, then there's probably not much point in doing it. | 04:27 |
| Yagisan | meh - I have to find customers - now (I have $10au left =-O ) | 04:27 |
| highvoltage | ah, australian | 04:28 |
| highvoltage | where in .au do you live? | 04:28 |
| Yagisan | Sydney, (Lidcombe, about 20 minute walk to Olympic site) | 04:28 |
| highvoltage | wow, what a fantastic city to live in. | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage - could you look here and tell me what you think http://users.tpg.com.au/yagisan/index.html | 04:29 |
| highvoltage | i think that's one of very few places where i'd live rather than here. | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | I'm redesigning the website and have done a mockup | 04:29 |
| highvoltage | i'll have to look tomorrow, have very, very little internet access right now (on GPRS atm) | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | It's too expensive here | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | GPRS - mobile phone ? | 04:30 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage - you're in South Africa ? | 04:31 |
| highvoltage | yep | 04:31 |
| highvoltage | Yagisan: are you an ubuntu developer? | 04:34 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: no, I "freelance" | 04:35 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: I develop on what I use for work | 04:35 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: what do you need/want ? | 04:36 |
| highvoltage | that's a tough question. i guess i'd have to say a 30 hour day. | 04:37 |
| highvoltage | no, sorry, i take that back. | 04:37 |
| highvoltage | i think we all need three day weekends. | 04:38 |
| highvoltage | it would solve many problems around the world. | 04:38 |
| Yagisan | I'd like an extra pair of hands, and eyes in the back of my head while I'm at it | 04:38 |
| highvoltage | and because people will technically work less, companies will have to hire more people, and the world unemployment rate will go down rapidly. | 04:38 |
| highvoltage | why an extra two hands? i think 3 hands is perfectly adequate.. | 04:39 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: I would love to hire people, but I'm having a hard time convincing businesses to spend money | 04:39 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: you must not have kids yet .. | 04:40 |
| highvoltage | nope, how did you deduct this? :) | 04:40 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: after you have kids, you'll realise that you need at least four hands for them | 04:41 |
| highvoltage | ah, good point. i'll keep that in mind if i ever have the oppertunity to get more hands. | 04:41 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: If you get some, send an extra pair (or two) my way :) | 04:43 |
| highvoltage | ok. | 04:44 |
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| highvoltage | must be. | 04:45 |
| highvoltage | Yagisan: what do you think about the edubuntu webpage? | 04:46 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: the front page has a cute childrens feel to it | 04:55 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: It does feel slow though | 04:56 |
| highvoltage | i think all the ubuntu sites are getting slower and slower | 04:56 |
| highvoltage | the wiki is especially slow. | 04:56 |
| highvoltage | i wonder if it's the high demand. | 04:56 |
| highvoltage | perhaps it's because so many people are downloading breezy, so there's little bandwidth. | 04:56 |
| Yagisan | I ended up deciding against a wiki because all wikis I've used are slow | 04:59 |
| Yagisan | I'm doing hand crafted html + css, with about 4-5 small images a page | 04:59 |
| Yagisan | a lot of people here still are on dialup | 05:00 |
| highvoltage | hand crafted is cool. | 05:00 |
| highvoltage | broadband in south africa doesn't really exist, so dial-up is still very popular here as well. | 05:00 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: I makes me feel old, I haven't hand crafted html since 2001 | 05:00 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: the link I posted would probably come up over gprs rather quickly | 05:01 |
| highvoltage | i checked it over gprs (but without images to reduce cost) looks nice. | 05:03 |
| highvoltage | content management systems are sometimes useful, but mostly overrated. | 05:03 |
| Yagisan | thanks highvoltage, I did the colour scheme to match my business cards, I don't know if the css menus will flyout on IE though | 05:04 |
| Jeromee | Yagisan: do you have the website hosted, I could check now if you'd like | 05:04 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: the layout mockup is here http://users.tpg.com.au/yagisan/index.html | 05:05 |
| Yagisan | links are dummys | 05:05 |
| Jeromee | yeah, it doesn't show up to well in IE | 05:06 |
| Jeromee | Its cutting off the first letter of each word for the menu bar | 05:07 |
| Jeromee | like home is seen as "ome" | 05:07 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: could you dcc me a screenshot | 05:07 |
| Jeromee | I can't dcc | 05:07 |
| Jeromee | but I can surely host the image for you | 05:07 |
| Jeromee | one second | 05:07 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: looks like I'll need conditional css for that :( | 05:08 |
| Jeromee | sorry for the overall size of this image, I have a dual monitors | 05:10 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: that won't be a problem - thanks for the screenshot | 05:11 |
| Jeromee | pm for link | 05:12 |
| Jeromee | if you need anything else | 05:15 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: that looks almost nothing like it does under firefox or konqueror | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | just let me know | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | I'll check it under my firefox too | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | hmm | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | looks fine in firefox | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | :-P | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | IE just sucks at life. | 05:15 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: did the flyovers work ? | 05:15 |
| Jeromee | what are "flyovers"? | 05:16 |
| Jeromee | I'm not much into webdesign | 05:16 |
| Jeromee | like, where you hover over home | 05:16 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: If you mouse over the menus they should pop out | 05:16 |
| Jeromee | and the "site map" box pops up? | 05:16 |
| Jeromee | yeah | 05:16 |
| Yagisan | yep | 05:17 |
| Jeromee | works | 05:17 |
| Jeromee | :-) | 05:17 |
| Yagisan | I'm not a web designer either | 05:17 |
| Jeromee | yeah | 05:17 |
| Jeromee | I hate web design | 05:17 |
| Jeromee | I'm pretty good with managing servers though | 05:17 |
| Jeromee | atleast, on freebsd | 05:18 |
| Jeromee | :-) | 05:18 |
| Jeromee | I have yet to try edubuntu, but, I've yet to get a computer completely rebuilt the way I like it to bother to install linux | 05:18 |
| Yagisan | I'd rather be hacking away at networks, but I've got to eat and feed a family, so create a website i must | 05:18 |
| Jeromee | hehe, yeah | 05:19 |
| Jeromee | I don't have to worry about the family thing | 05:19 |
| Jeromee | just gotta worry about feeding bruce, my pet fish | 05:19 |
| Yagisan | edubuntu is nice for education, but it's not quite right for me | 05:19 |
| Yagisan | I just contribute my patches back though | 05:19 |
| Jeromee | yeah, I tend to find freebsd more to my needs | 05:20 |
| Jeromee | but, I'm definatly going to give it a shot | 05:20 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: your windows box - I doesn't have CJK fonts does it | 05:20 |
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| Jeromee | no, don't believe so | 05:20 |
| Yagisan | Jeromee: that explains the boxes then | 05:21 |
| Jeromee | basically just a default install with updates, and some security | 05:21 |
| highvoltage | ok, bye everyone! | 05:31 |
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| Yagisan | night all | 06:39 |
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| gooseuk | Afternoon folks | 06:57 |
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| gooseuk | anyone with the living? | 07:46 |
| spacey_ki | :) | 07:51 |
| spacey_ki | not sure | 07:51 |
| spacey_ki | partly | 07:51 |
| spacey_ki | whats up | 07:51 |
| gooseuk | Well I was wondering if one the developers can fix the floppy problem | 07:56 |
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| spacey_ki | THE floppy problem? | 08:36 |
| spacey_ki | whats that? | 08:36 |
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| Rotan | hi! | 08:39 |
| Rotan | ... is edubuntu appropriate for, say, a college campus to put in libraries and such? | 08:44 |
| spacey_ki | .. | 08:51 |
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| alison | Is there anyone here who can help me troubleshoot my server setup? | 09:08 |
| spacey_ki | alison, if you state your problem | 09:10 |
| alison | I boot my client up, it gets to a login screen. I try to login. Screen goes black, then boots me back to the same login screen. | 09:11 |
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| alison | mhz was helping me the other night, and he had the same problem. he passed on a potential fix from ogra, which involved updating the ssh keys on the server. I did that, but still have the same problem. | 09:13 |
| Rotan | is edubuntu appropriate for a collegiate environment? | 09:16 |
| alison | Rotan: The bundled software provided with edubuntu seems more aimed at grade schoolers, and maybe some for highschool. But you could definitely make use of its LTSP capabilities in a collegiate environment. | 09:20 |
| alison | Could anyone here with a working server/thin-client setup tell me the output you get running sudo netstat -anp | grep ":177 " ? | 09:30 |
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| alison | hi ogra, aren't you one of the edubuntu wizards? | 09:56 |
| ogra | yes | 09:56 |
| ogra | hi | 09:56 |
| alison | can you help me: my client boots up, I get a login screen, and then can't log in. screen goes black and then goes back to the login screen. | 09:57 |
| alison | mhz suggested I update the ssh keys, and I ran a command to do that... but still a no-go | 09:57 |
| ogra | have you looked if /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts contains a key after running the command ? and is sshd running ? | 09:58 |
| alison | i'll check | 09:59 |
| alison | there is a bunch of gobbledigook in ssh_known_hosts | 10:00 |
| ogra | the login manager needs a running sshd on the server to connect to... :) | 10:00 |
| alison | yes sshd is running | 10:00 |
| ogra | and the file contains a key ? | 10:01 |
| alison | if a bunch of mixed-up letters and numbers is a key, yes | 10:02 |
| ogra | yes, thats a key | 10:02 |
| ogra | otherwise it would be empty... | 10:02 |
| alison | ok | 10:02 |
| ogra | does the user you connect with exist on the server ? | 10:03 |
| alison | yes | 10:03 |
| alison | hold on... maybe not? | 10:03 |
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| dabaR_ | Hey, why am I not able at all to edit the wiki, it says page locked ion the top left. I am signed in to wiki.ubuntu.com however, and able to edit. | 10:04 |
| ogra | thats very strange... seems all requirements are fulfilled... | 10:04 |
| dabaR_ | Are you able to? maybe it is just locked. | 10:05 |
| alison | I'm going to try it again. the user I thought I created wasn't on the server when I checked it just now. | 10:05 |
| ogra | alison, try to set a root password in the chroot environment (sudo /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd) and check the file /var/log/ldm.log on the client... it will tell whats going wrong | 10:05 |
| ogra | err | 10:06 |
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| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd | 10:06 |
| ogra | alison, oh, thats the problem then :) | 10:06 |
| ogra | dabaR, does it say by whom it is locked ? | 10:07 |
| ogra | probably someone edits it currently | 10:07 |
| ogra | i can edit on wiki.edubuntu.org | 10:07 |
| dabaR | Not at all. | 10:08 |
| dabaR | I mean, not at all does it say by whom. | 10:08 |
| dabaR | Well, Ill check when I get home onto my Ubuntu. Thanks. | 10:08 |
| dabaR | Im glad edubuntu was released. | 10:08 |
| ogra | :) | 10:08 |
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| alison | now when I try to login, it sits there with just a little clock for the mouse pointer | 10:22 |
| gand | hi, no 5.10 PPC final, neither PPC pre yet available :( | 10:22 |
| ogra | gand, nope, sorry | 10:23 |
| gand | eta? | 10:23 |
| ogra | the powerpc install was not tested enough, we discovered a bug in the default install | 10:23 |
| ogra | if you want only a workstation install, the last daily isos are still there, they are just not officially released... | 10:24 |
| gand | I've pre installed with all update | 10:24 |
| ogra | then it should be fine... | 10:24 |
| gand | yes althougth sometimes little strange thinghs happens :) | 10:25 |
| ogra | the isos on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/ are identical with the release... but note that you currently cant use ltsp on ppc, it has a bad bug | 10:26 |
| ogra | which kind of things ? | 10:26 |
| gand | nothing important | 10:26 |
| alison | ogra: how exactly do I check the log on the client? I set the chroot passwd. | 10:26 |
| gand | probably related to gnome | 10:26 |
| ogra | alison, you press ctrl-alt-f1 and login as root with the password you set up before | 10:27 |
| gand | as bin icon placed on the left of desktop | 10:27 |
| ogra | enev with new users ? | 10:28 |
| ogra | *even | 10:28 |
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| gand | i didn't try | 10:28 |
| ogra | alison, then less /var/log/ldm.log and press shift-g to jump to the end of the file... | 10:28 |
| gand | meanwhile I've discovered "sudo nautilus" to manage root files using GUI, without terminal | 10:30 |
| ogra | eeek | 10:30 |
| ogra | dont use file managers as root | 10:30 |
| alison | it's not letting me log in as root. I did "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd" and entered a password. is that right? this stuff is testing the limits of my command line knowledge. :| | 10:30 |
| ogra | alison, you did run that command on the server, right ? probably you need to reboot the client... | 10:31 |
| alison | yes, I run it on the server. | 10:32 |
| alison | oh, so I'm logging in as root from the client? | 10:32 |
| gand | I did it to manage folder in /var/www/ to install some CMS - LMS | 10:32 |
| ogra | *on* the client, yes | 10:32 |
| ogra | gand, what if your mouse misbehaves and a essential directory gets moved into any other directory and you didnt notice wher it was dropped ? | 10:33 |
| ogra | or the filemanager has a bug that doesnt show up if you run it as user and it wipes your disk ? | 10:34 |
| alison | ok, now it's working. and I see that the client's connect to ssh is timing out, because it's trying to connect to the wrong IP address. | 10:34 |
| ogra | note that filemanagers dont get tested as root normally by the developers | 10:34 |
| ogra | oh | 10:34 |
| ogra | thats strange... | 10:35 |
| ogra | alison, is your server the only server on this network ? | 10:36 |
| ogra | or do you have any nfs server around ? | 10:36 |
| alison | well, there are other computers on the network, but the clients shouldn't be able to access any of them at this point. they're going client -> switch -> server, and the server's got two network cards. the one that's connected to my general LAN is currently disabled. | 10:37 |
| ogra | hmm, its a bit weaird... | 10:37 |
| alison | no nfs server | 10:37 |
| ogra | weird | 10:37 |
| ogra | the clients boot fine ? | 10:38 |
| alison | they boot to the login screen fine... they do throw some errors along the way, though | 10:38 |
| ogra | thats normal... | 10:38 |
| ogra | i havent cleaned up the bootscripts yet, we use all ubuntu default packages, most are not designed for read only filesystems... beautification is for the next release :) | 10:39 |
| alison | it looks like the ssh is trying to go to a default IP address rather than the static IP I set up for my server in eth0 and in my dhcpd.conf | 10:39 |
| alison | it's trying 192.168.101.254, but my server's set to 192.168.2.1 | 10:40 |
| ogra | could you run ifconfig ? | 10:40 |
| ogra | and tell me which IP the client has ? | 10:41 |
| alison | 192.168.2.233 | 10:42 |
| ogra | hmm, should be right | 10:42 |
| ogra | can you enter the following : | 10:42 |
| ogra | (sed -ne '/ltsp.*nfs/ { s/^\([^:] *\):.*$/\1/; p; q }' /proc/mounts | 10:42 |
| alison | still on the client? | 10:43 |
| ogra | yup | 10:43 |
| ogra | thats the command thats used in the code to get your server ip | 10:43 |
| alison | that'll be interesting without cut and paste :) | 10:43 |
| ogra | an easy workaround is to ser the SERVER variable in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ... but i'd like to know why the autodetection misbehaves | 10:46 |
| ogra | s/ser/set | 10:46 |
| alison | hm, I typed that in, and it gave me a > prompt? | 10:47 |
| ogra | ergh | 10:47 |
| ogra | hit ctrl-c | 10:47 |
| ogra | and omit the first bracket | 10:47 |
| alison | the ( before sed? | 10:48 |
| ogra | yes | 10:48 |
| alison | okay, 192.168.2.1 | 10:48 |
| ogra | t should give you an ip address | 10:48 |
| ogra | hmm, looks right | 10:48 |
| alison | indeed | 10:48 |
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| ogra | did you set the SERVER variable anywhere ? did you edit or create /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ? | 10:50 |
| alison | I was about to try doing that before you showed up here, but I didn't yet | 10:51 |
| ogra | hmm | 10:51 |
| ogra | can you try a login on the client and paste the last ...say 30 lines of ldm.log anywhere ? | 10:52 |
| alison | there's not that much in the log, actually | 10:53 |
| ogra | you should be able to scp the file to the server.. | 10:53 |
| alison | it's only nine lines. I could type it in here | 10:54 |
| ogra | hmm... | 10:54 |
| alison | OpenSSH4.1p1 Debian-7ubuntu4, OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005 | 10:55 |
| alison | debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config | 10:55 |
| alison | debug1: Applying options for * | 10:55 |
| alison | debug1: Connecting to 192.168.101.254 [192.168.101.254] port 22. | 10:56 |
| alison | debug1: connect to address 192.168.101.254 port 22: Connection timed out | 10:56 |
| alison | ssh: connect to host 192.168.101.254 port 22: Connection timed out | 10:56 |
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| alison | (END) | 10:56 |
| mwright1night | Quick question | 10:56 |
| mwright1night | is edubuntu from the same source repository as ubuntu and kubuntu | 10:57 |
| ogra | alison, that doesnt look like login attempt at all... | 10:57 |
| mwright1night | just a different default package sleectin? | 10:57 |
| ogra | mwright1night, yes | 10:57 |
| mwright1night | also does anyone know if the "Teacher Tool" replacement | 10:57 |
| ogra | mwright1night, there are edubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-server metapackages | 10:57 |
| mwright1night | which was on the core todo list for edubuntu is in the edubuntu | 10:57 |
| ogra | mwright1night, its not ready yet | 10:57 |
| mwright1night | do you know when? | 10:57 |
| ogra | i'll work on it the next weeks and trigger a backport of the package for breezy | 10:58 |
| mwright1night | fantastic | 10:58 |
| mwright1night | I am rolling out some terminal servers for some schools running LTSP | 10:58 |
| mwright1night | and I currently use Teachertool, but it's not that clean | 10:58 |
| ogra | but it'll only have basic functionallity, not more than the original TeacherTool yet | 10:59 |
| mwright1night | that's ok | 10:59 |
| mwright1night | it will be awesome all the same | 10:59 |
| mwright1night | will you use x11vnc or something else? | 10:59 |
| ogra | but i plan a plugin mechanism, so you can let your stsdents write extensions for it in the python class ;) | 10:59 |
| mwright1night | I also use it for remote helpdesk | 11:00 |
| mwright1night | so keep that in mind | 11:00 |
| ogra | gnome has already vnc built in... | 11:00 |
| spacey_ki | teachertool is the fancy toolie to see running sessions and stuff or am i confused with something else? | 11:00 |
| mwright1night | that it's use is beyond the class room | 11:00 |
| mwright1night | It has two functions | 11:00 |
| mwright1night | it will broadcast your desktop to the class | 11:00 |
| mwright1night | and it will spy on a session | 11:00 |
| ogra | since i have all settings centralized available in gconf oon the server, the vnc part is fairly easy | 11:00 |
| mwright1night | I login to my terminal servers remotely using FreeNX then I use TeacherTool in interactive spy mode to do helpdesk | 11:01 |
| mwright1night | I even do it from my 3G Mobile phone internet card which has a lot of latency and it works ok | 11:01 |
| ogra | alison, try another login and look if a line starting with: "ssh command line:" shows up | 11:02 |
| ogra | alison, on the login manager .... (ctrl-alt-f7) | 11:02 |
| ogra | mwright1night, i hope we'll have freeNX in ubuntu before dapper to have it in the next release | 11:03 |
| alison | ok, I was trying that just now. I think my previous login attempts might not have been logged, because I just restarted the client after it hung with the clock icon | 11:03 |
| ogra | they guy working on it for us had some other priorities so it didnt make breezy | 11:03 |
| ogra | alison, yes, if you rebooted the client the log will be empty | 11:04 |
| alison | ogra, yes, there's an ssh command line line. | 11:06 |
| ogra | can you post it here ? | 11:06 |
| mwright1night | ok ogra.. I appreciate your fine work, | 11:07 |
| mwright1night | I have to goto work now | 11:07 |
| alison | Issh command line: ['ssh', '-v', '-X', '-c', 'blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc','alison@192.168.101.254', 'env', 'LTSP_CLIENT="ltsp"', '/etc/X11/Xsession', ';','kill -1 $PPID'] | 11:07 |
| mwright1night | thanks for the update, I will proceed to install edubuntu, cause we're going live for next year | 11:07 |
| alison | *ssh, not lssh | 11:07 |
| mwright1night | and it sounds like a safe bet that Teachers Pet will be ready | 11:08 |
| ogra | gah, where does it get the SERVER variable from ? | 11:08 |
| mwright1night | I'm going to use original ltsp 4.2 as Muekow/ubuntu isn't quite mature enough yet | 11:08 |
| ogra | mwright1night, until next year ? haha, indeed | 11:08 |
| ogra | mwright1night, oh, note that teachers pet will be written for ubuntu ltsp.... it wont support tcp X connections, only ssh like ubuntu's ltsp | 11:10 |
| ogra | alison, are you sure you havent set the server in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ? | 11:12 |
| alison | I did a filesystem-wide search for lts.conf. the only place it shows up is in the docs as an example file | 11:12 |
| ogra | hmm, really strange | 11:12 |
| ogra | i have no idea where the 192.168.101.254 comes from | 11:13 |
| alison | that's the default ltsp server ip address, right? | 11:13 |
| ogra | it shouldnt be.... | 11:14 |
| ogra | the default should be your ltsp server 192.168.2.1 | 11:14 |
| alison | ok... | 11:14 |
| mwright1night | oh that's bad | 11:14 |
| mwright1night | looks like I"m not using Teachers pet | 11:15 |
| mwright1night | dam | 11:15 |
| ogra | mwright1night, look like youre using teacherTool then | 11:15 |
| ogra | *looks | 11:15 |
| mwright1night | yep | 11:15 |
| mwright1night | main thing is ltsp 4.2 (not yet released) will dynamically do local devices very nicely and local apps very nicely | 11:16 |
| mwright1night | And that is something of high value to my setups | 11:16 |
| ogra | edubuntu wil do that too in our next release | 11:16 |
| mwright1night | I"m sure when April edition comes out they will be parallel in functionality | 11:16 |
| mwright1night | Will jim be adopting the ssh tunnelled X setup that is in ubuntu | 11:17 |
| ogra | i'll integrate hotplug/udev/hal/dbus with the server for the next release | 11:17 |
| ogra | as weel as i'm working on ssh tunneled gstreamer setups for audio support through theora streaming... | 11:18 |
| mwright1night | cool this is very exciting | 11:18 |
| mwright1night | LTSP + OO 2.0 = BillyGs demise | 11:18 |
| ogra | we're working very tight together | 11:18 |
| mwright1night | thanks again -- it's a fine contribution, must run to setup the training network @ work | 11:19 |
| mwright1night | cya | 11:19 |
| ogra | the ltsp conference is held "inside" the ubuntu conference in motreal in two weeks | 11:19 |
| ogra | alison, ok... lets try what happens if you set the SERVER variable in lts.conf... | 11:20 |
| alison | so presumably I can fix this with an lts.conf? | 11:21 |
| alison | ok | 11:21 |
| ogra | alison, hit alt-f2 on the server | 11:21 |
| alison | ok | 11:21 |
| ogra | paste or type : gksudo "gedit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" | 11:21 |
| ogra | add/paste: [Default] SERVER = "192.168.2.1" | 11:22 |
| ogra | save he file and reboot the client... | 11:22 |
| ogra | *the | 11:22 |
| alison | wait... what the heck... there's stuff there | 11:23 |
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| alison | our infamous 192.168.101.254 | 11:23 |
| alison | sorry, I must be going crazy. | 11:24 |
| alison | I thought I checked for a file there | 11:24 |
| alison | so I only need the one SERVER line? | 11:24 |
| alison | or maybe I should just try deleting this? | 11:24 |
| alison | the file, I mean | 11:25 |
| ogra | yes, delete it... except you have a non us keymap, then add at least the contens as described on http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientKeymap | 11:26 |
| ogra | but wipe everything else from that file | 11:26 |
| alison | ok, keymap is us. file deleted. | 11:26 |
| ogra | if you use a us keyboard, just delete it | 11:26 |
| ogra | :) | 11:26 |
| alison | do I need to restart anything? | 11:27 |
| ogra | yes, the client... it reads lts.conf on boot | 11:28 |
| alison | ok | 11:28 |
| ogra | if you want to lock the root password for the clients again (makes sense for security) run "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -l" | 11:30 |
| alison | SUCCESS!! | 11:32 |
| ogra | YAY !! | 11:32 |
| ogra | :) | 11:32 |
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| ajmitch_ | what's going on? :) | 11:33 |
| ogra | we celebrate a fixed ltsp setup | 11:33 |
| alison | I got my first successful client login | 11:33 |
| alison | ok... is there anything special I have to do to get internet access going through the second network card on the server? | 11:35 |
| ogra | alison, there is a howto... noted at the bottom of the Install notes (see /topic) | 11:35 |
| alison | ok | 11:35 |
| ogra | argh... | 11:35 |
| ogra | no its not noted there | 11:36 |
| ogra | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup | 11:36 |
| ogra | ^^^ at the bottom there | 11:36 |
| alison | great. thanks. | 11:37 |
| alison | and thank you so much for your help, ogra. there are going to be some really happy kids in a school in Harlem, NY this week. | 11:37 |
| ogra | cool | 11:38 |
| ogra | thats what i work for, thanks :) | 11:38 |
| alison | Isaac Pflaum, the president of the non-profit I'm working for (heragroup.org), wishes to thank you, too. we've been trying to get this project running since August. | 11:39 |
| ogra | if you ave any probs, just come back and ask :) i built edubuntu, i know all internals :) | 11:39 |
| ogra | *have | 11:40 |
| alison | :) thanks | 11:40 |
| runaway | any news on 5.10 ppc? | 11:40 |
| ogra | runaway, there wont be one officially, it didnt recieve enough testing | 11:41 |
| runaway | ever? | 11:41 |
| ogra | 5.10 | 11:41 |
| runaway | thanx | 11:41 |
| ogra | but there is a unofficial version | 11:41 |
| ogra | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/ | 11:41 |
| ogra | holds the released isos... the ppc default install has a bad bug in ltsp... if you dont want to use ltsp, that image should be fine | 11:42 |
| runaway | i just want to see the disto. servers would be amd anyway | 11:43 |
| ogra | ok | 11:43 |
| ogra | do you have a running breezy on your ppc ? | 11:43 |
| ogra | the just install dubuntu-desktop :) | 11:43 |
| ogra | *then | 11:43 |
| runaway | downloaded but not installed | 11:44 |
| ogra | edubuntu-desktop indeed | 11:44 |
| runaway | that sounds easier | 11:45 |
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| ogra | just install breezy and edubuntu-desktop on top... then you got the same as the workstation install provides | 11:45 |
| runaway | gotcha | 11:45 |
| ogra | edubuntu-server wont work on ppc, it depends on a working ltsp... | 11:45 |
| Jeromee | rawr. | 11:48 |
| Jeromee | ogra, sup | 11:48 |
| ogra | dinner now :) | 11:48 |
| Jeromee | boooo | 11:48 |
| ogra | :) | 11:49 |
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| petterah | hi, i have a question, is edubuntu something like skolelinux? is it ltsp and lessdisks enabled ubuntu out of the box? | 11:58 |
| ogra | not lessdisks, no... but for the rest, yes | 11:59 |
| ogra | also we didnt target more than one classroom with this first release... managing a school and centralized user management is target of our next release | 12:02 |
| petterah | ok thanks ogra | 12:03 |
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