=== kjaer [n=kresten@ip283.vejen-net.dk] has joined #edubuntu === calling_planet_e [n=The@86.104.248.178] has joined #edubuntu === calling_planet_e [n=The@86.104.248.178] has left #edubuntu [] === gand [n=gand@62-101-126-208.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #edubuntu [01:17] hi all [01:17] what about 5.10 PPC iso? === ogra [n=ogra@p5089EE34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === \sh__ [n=shermann@p5089EE34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:59] what about 5.10 PPC iso? === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Grant_ [n=grant@85-210-170-71.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === TimM [n=none@b-6c.lcom.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:33] dand: that was not released due to ''stupid bug'' r.er ltsp apparently [04:34] gand: that was not released due to ''stupid bug'' r.er ltsp apparently [04:35] r.e. ltsp [05:34] 10th install works fine now === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@67.15.185.40] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@info12-116.info.com.ph] has joined #edubuntu [07:59] hello === jsgotangco [n=jsg@info12-113.info.com.ph] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-199-209.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [11:29] \sh - you gave my multi-client-arch patches a test ? [11:30] <\sh> Yagisan: ogra had..I was the test candidate ;) [11:31] hey Yagisan [11:31] G'day ajmitch_ [11:32] \sh: I hope you're looking at malone 3014 [11:32] \sh: amd64 server + i386 client ? [11:32] jabberd2 bug, shall I reassign to MOTUIM? [11:32] <\sh> Yagisan: yepp [11:32] <\sh> ajmitch_: moment [11:33] probably OT for here, but I'm sure that jabber has an educational use ;) [11:34] <\sh> ajmitch_: leave it for motu....I think this behaviour is upstream.... [11:34] <\sh> jabberd2 is a mess sometimes :( [11:34] ok [11:34] <\sh> I'd set a bookmark to it [11:35] <\sh> Yagisan: test case was [11:35] <\sh> amd64 server, dhcp on amd64, connection from amd64 to lan via wlan... [11:35] <\sh> client i386 -> pxe boot from amd64 server via wired lan, routing was done via wlan from amd64 [11:35] <\sh> result: works ;) [11:36] <\sh> very uncommon routing scenario...but hey ;) [11:36] \sh: excellent - I already deployed amd64 server + dhcp on amd64, but my i386 clients boot with etherboot [11:37] \sh: qemu isn't yet up to the task of extending the patch yet :( [11:37] <\sh> Yagisan: well...at least there is a new + for edubuntu for the next release [11:38] \sh: yep, all we need now is local apps :) === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.170] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196-46-163-254.gprs.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [04:18] hi everyone [04:21] G'day highvoltage [04:21] Hi Mr Jones [04:22] highvoltage, only the government calls me that, even my family call me Yagisan :) [04:22] hehe [04:23] whenever i see someones surname is 'Jones' I think of the counting crows song [04:23] so saying Mr Jones at some stage is inevitable, at least i got it out of the way now ;) [04:24] the funny thing about having Jones as a surname is that the police don't think it is your real name [04:24] because it's such a popular surname [04:25] so whats up highvoltage ? [04:26] dreading monday, mostly. :) [04:26] i need to take a few days leave to relax but just haven't had the chance yet. [04:26] i think i just have to come to terms that i'm a workoholic [04:26] It's already monday here [04:27] you must like what you do then [04:27] lucky you, you're closer to friday :) [04:27] i do. intensely :) [04:27] then again, i like everything i do. if i can't enjoy what i'm doing, then there's probably not much point in doing it. [04:27] meh - I have to find customers - now (I have $10au left =-O ) [04:28] ah, australian [04:28] where in .au do you live? [04:28] Sydney, (Lidcombe, about 20 minute walk to Olympic site) [04:29] wow, what a fantastic city to live in. [04:29] highvoltage - could you look here and tell me what you think http://users.tpg.com.au/yagisan/index.html [04:29] i think that's one of very few places where i'd live rather than here. [04:29] I'm redesigning the website and have done a mockup [04:29] i'll have to look tomorrow, have very, very little internet access right now (on GPRS atm) [04:29] It's too expensive here [04:30] GPRS - mobile phone ? [04:31] highvoltage - you're in South Africa ? [04:31] yep [04:34] Yagisan: are you an ubuntu developer? [04:35] highvoltage: no, I "freelance" [04:35] highvoltage: I develop on what I use for work [04:36] highvoltage: what do you need/want ? [04:37] that's a tough question. i guess i'd have to say a 30 hour day. [04:37] no, sorry, i take that back. [04:38] i think we all need three day weekends. [04:38] it would solve many problems around the world. [04:38] I'd like an extra pair of hands, and eyes in the back of my head while I'm at it [04:38] and because people will technically work less, companies will have to hire more people, and the world unemployment rate will go down rapidly. [04:39] why an extra two hands? i think 3 hands is perfectly adequate.. [04:39] highvoltage: I would love to hire people, but I'm having a hard time convincing businesses to spend money [04:40] highvoltage: you must not have kids yet .. [04:40] nope, how did you deduct this? :) [04:41] highvoltage: after you have kids, you'll realise that you need at least four hands for them [04:41] ah, good point. i'll keep that in mind if i ever have the oppertunity to get more hands. [04:43] highvoltage: If you get some, send an extra pair (or two) my way :) [04:44] ok. === highvoltage wonders where the #edubuntu regulars are === Yagisan thinks they are still hungover [04:45] must be. [04:46] Yagisan: what do you think about the edubuntu webpage? [04:55] highvoltage: the front page has a cute childrens feel to it [04:56] highvoltage: It does feel slow though [04:56] i think all the ubuntu sites are getting slower and slower [04:56] the wiki is especially slow. [04:56] i wonder if it's the high demand. [04:56] perhaps it's because so many people are downloading breezy, so there's little bandwidth. [04:59] I ended up deciding against a wiki because all wikis I've used are slow [04:59] I'm doing hand crafted html + css, with about 4-5 small images a page [05:00] a lot of people here still are on dialup [05:00] hand crafted is cool. [05:00] broadband in south africa doesn't really exist, so dial-up is still very popular here as well. [05:00] highvoltage: I makes me feel old, I haven't hand crafted html since 2001 [05:01] highvoltage: the link I posted would probably come up over gprs rather quickly [05:03] i checked it over gprs (but without images to reduce cost) looks nice. [05:03] content management systems are sometimes useful, but mostly overrated. [05:04] thanks highvoltage, I did the colour scheme to match my business cards, I don't know if the css menus will flyout on IE though [05:04] Yagisan: do you have the website hosted, I could check now if you'd like [05:05] Jeromee: the layout mockup is here http://users.tpg.com.au/yagisan/index.html [05:05] links are dummys [05:06] yeah, it doesn't show up to well in IE [05:07] Its cutting off the first letter of each word for the menu bar [05:07] like home is seen as "ome" [05:07] Jeromee: could you dcc me a screenshot [05:07] I can't dcc [05:07] but I can surely host the image for you [05:07] one second [05:08] Jeromee: looks like I'll need conditional css for that :( [05:10] sorry for the overall size of this image, I have a dual monitors [05:11] Jeromee: that won't be a problem - thanks for the screenshot [05:12] pm for link [05:15] if you need anything else [05:15] Jeromee: that looks almost nothing like it does under firefox or konqueror [05:15] just let me know [05:15] I'll check it under my firefox too [05:15] hmm [05:15] looks fine in firefox [05:15] :-P [05:15] IE just sucks at life. [05:15] Jeromee: did the flyovers work ? [05:16] what are "flyovers"? [05:16] I'm not much into webdesign [05:16] like, where you hover over home [05:16] Jeromee: If you mouse over the menus they should pop out [05:16] and the "site map" box pops up? [05:16] yeah [05:17] yep [05:17] works [05:17] :-) [05:17] I'm not a web designer either [05:17] yeah [05:17] I hate web design [05:17] I'm pretty good with managing servers though [05:18] atleast, on freebsd [05:18] :-) [05:18] I have yet to try edubuntu, but, I've yet to get a computer completely rebuilt the way I like it to bother to install linux [05:18] I'd rather be hacking away at networks, but I've got to eat and feed a family, so create a website i must [05:19] hehe, yeah [05:19] I don't have to worry about the family thing [05:19] just gotta worry about feeding bruce, my pet fish [05:19] edubuntu is nice for education, but it's not quite right for me [05:19] I just contribute my patches back though [05:20] yeah, I tend to find freebsd more to my needs [05:20] but, I'm definatly going to give it a shot [05:20] Jeromee: your windows box - I doesn't have CJK fonts does it === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:20] no, don't believe so [05:21] Jeromee: that explains the boxes then [05:21] basically just a default install with updates, and some security [05:31] ok, bye everyone! === \sh is now known as \sh_away [06:39] night all === gooseuk [n=goose@ACD657D5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:57] Afternoon folks === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-199-209.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === Happu [i=Happu@27-137.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === Happu [i=Happu@27-137.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has left #edubuntu [] === Nancy [n=nancy@ppp-69-223-79-17.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:46] anyone with the living? [07:51] :) [07:51] not sure [07:51] partly [07:51] whats up [07:56] Well I was wondering if one the developers can fix the floppy problem === TiMiDo [n=deb@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #edubuntu === TiMiDo [n=deb@unaffiliated/timido] has left #edubuntu [] [08:36] THE floppy problem? [08:36] whats that? === Rotan [n=chatzill@219-100.usachoice.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:39] hi! [08:44] ... is edubuntu appropriate for, say, a college campus to put in libraries and such? [08:51] .. === Rotan [n=Rotan@219-100.usachoice.net] has joined #edubuntu === alison [n=alison@ool-457a6b4c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu === voesch [n=es@dD5769A4B.access.telenet.be] has joined #edubuntu [09:08] Is there anyone here who can help me troubleshoot my server setup? [09:10] alison, if you state your problem [09:11] I boot my client up, it gets to a login screen. I try to login. Screen goes black, then boots me back to the same login screen. === [daedalus] [n=daedalus@80.126.167.231] has left #edubuntu [] === Rotan [n=Rotan@219-100.usachoice.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:13] mhz was helping me the other night, and he had the same problem. he passed on a potential fix from ogra, which involved updating the ssh keys on the server. I did that, but still have the same problem. [09:16] is edubuntu appropriate for a collegiate environment? [09:20] Rotan: The bundled software provided with edubuntu seems more aimed at grade schoolers, and maybe some for highschool. But you could definitely make use of its LTSP capabilities in a collegiate environment. [09:30] Could anyone here with a working server/thin-client setup tell me the output you get running sudo netstat -anp | grep ":177 " ? === \sh_away is now known as \sh === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DE73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:56] hi ogra, aren't you one of the edubuntu wizards? [09:56] yes [09:56] hi [09:57] can you help me: my client boots up, I get a login screen, and then can't log in. screen goes black and then goes back to the login screen. [09:57] mhz suggested I update the ssh keys, and I ran a command to do that... but still a no-go [09:58] have you looked if /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts contains a key after running the command ? and is sshd running ? [09:59] i'll check [10:00] there is a bunch of gobbledigook in ssh_known_hosts [10:00] the login manager needs a running sshd on the server to connect to... :) [10:00] yes sshd is running [10:01] and the file contains a key ? [10:02] if a bunch of mixed-up letters and numbers is a key, yes [10:02] yes, thats a key [10:02] otherwise it would be empty... [10:02] ok [10:03] does the user you connect with exist on the server ? [10:03] yes [10:03] hold on... maybe not? === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-63-151.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:04] Hey, why am I not able at all to edit the wiki, it says page locked ion the top left. I am signed in to wiki.ubuntu.com however, and able to edit. [10:04] thats very strange... seems all requirements are fulfilled... [10:05] Are you able to? maybe it is just locked. [10:05] I'm going to try it again. the user I thought I created wasn't on the server when I checked it just now. [10:05] alison, try to set a root password in the chroot environment (sudo /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd) and check the file /var/log/ldm.log on the client... it will tell whats going wrong [10:06] err === dabaR_ is now known as dabaR [10:06] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd [10:06] alison, oh, thats the problem then :) [10:07] dabaR, does it say by whom it is locked ? [10:07] probably someone edits it currently [10:07] i can edit on wiki.edubuntu.org [10:08] Not at all. [10:08] I mean, not at all does it say by whom. [10:08] Well, Ill check when I get home onto my Ubuntu. Thanks. [10:08] Im glad edubuntu was released. [10:08] :) === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-63-151.dynamic.mts.net] has left #edubuntu ["see] [10:22] now when I try to login, it sits there with just a little clock for the mouse pointer [10:22] hi, no 5.10 PPC final, neither PPC pre yet available :( [10:23] gand, nope, sorry [10:23] eta? [10:23] the powerpc install was not tested enough, we discovered a bug in the default install [10:24] if you want only a workstation install, the last daily isos are still there, they are just not officially released... [10:24] I've pre installed with all update [10:24] then it should be fine... [10:25] yes althougth sometimes little strange thinghs happens :) [10:26] the isos on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/ are identical with the release... but note that you currently cant use ltsp on ppc, it has a bad bug [10:26] which kind of things ? [10:26] nothing important [10:26] ogra: how exactly do I check the log on the client? I set the chroot passwd. [10:26] probably related to gnome [10:27] alison, you press ctrl-alt-f1 and login as root with the password you set up before [10:27] as bin icon placed on the left of desktop [10:28] enev with new users ? [10:28] *even === \sh is now known as \sh_away [10:28] i didn't try [10:28] alison, then less /var/log/ldm.log and press shift-g to jump to the end of the file... [10:30] meanwhile I've discovered "sudo nautilus" to manage root files using GUI, without terminal [10:30] eeek [10:30] dont use file managers as root [10:30] it's not letting me log in as root. I did "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd" and entered a password. is that right? this stuff is testing the limits of my command line knowledge. :| [10:31] alison, you did run that command on the server, right ? probably you need to reboot the client... [10:32] yes, I run it on the server. [10:32] oh, so I'm logging in as root from the client? [10:32] I did it to manage folder in /var/www/ to install some CMS - LMS [10:32] *on* the client, yes [10:33] gand, what if your mouse misbehaves and a essential directory gets moved into any other directory and you didnt notice wher it was dropped ? [10:34] or the filemanager has a bug that doesnt show up if you run it as user and it wipes your disk ? [10:34] ok, now it's working. and I see that the client's connect to ssh is timing out, because it's trying to connect to the wrong IP address. [10:34] note that filemanagers dont get tested as root normally by the developers [10:34] oh [10:35] thats strange... [10:36] alison, is your server the only server on this network ? [10:36] or do you have any nfs server around ? [10:37] well, there are other computers on the network, but the clients shouldn't be able to access any of them at this point. they're going client -> switch -> server, and the server's got two network cards. the one that's connected to my general LAN is currently disabled. [10:37] hmm, its a bit weaird... [10:37] no nfs server [10:37] weird [10:38] the clients boot fine ? [10:38] they boot to the login screen fine... they do throw some errors along the way, though [10:38] thats normal... [10:39] i havent cleaned up the bootscripts yet, we use all ubuntu default packages, most are not designed for read only filesystems... beautification is for the next release :) [10:39] it looks like the ssh is trying to go to a default IP address rather than the static IP I set up for my server in eth0 and in my dhcpd.conf [10:40] it's trying 192.168.101.254, but my server's set to 192.168.2.1 [10:40] could you run ifconfig ? [10:41] and tell me which IP the client has ? [10:42] 192.168.2.233 [10:42] hmm, should be right [10:42] can you enter the following : [10:42] (sed -ne '/ltsp.*nfs/ { s/^$[^:] *$:.*$/\1/; p; q }' /proc/mounts [10:43] still on the client? [10:43] yup [10:43] thats the command thats used in the code to get your server ip [10:43] that'll be interesting without cut and paste :) [10:46] an easy workaround is to ser the SERVER variable in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ... but i'd like to know why the autodetection misbehaves [10:46] s/ser/set [10:47] hm, I typed that in, and it gave me a > prompt? [10:47] ergh [10:47] hit ctrl-c [10:47] and omit the first bracket [10:48] the ( before sed? [10:48] yes [10:48] okay, 192.168.2.1 [10:48] t should give you an ip address [10:48] hmm, looks right [10:48] indeed === ogra scratches head [10:50] did you set the SERVER variable anywhere ? did you edit or create /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ? [10:51] I was about to try doing that before you showed up here, but I didn't yet [10:51] hmm [10:52] can you try a login on the client and paste the last ...say 30 lines of ldm.log anywhere ? [10:53] there's not that much in the log, actually [10:53] you should be able to scp the file to the server.. [10:54] it's only nine lines. I could type it in here [10:54] hmm... [10:55] OpenSSH4.1p1 Debian-7ubuntu4, OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005 [10:55] debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config [10:55] debug1: Applying options for * [10:56] debug1: Connecting to 192.168.101.254 [192.168.101.254] port 22. [10:56] debug1: connect to address 192.168.101.254 port 22: Connection timed out [10:56] ssh: connect to host 192.168.101.254 port 22: Connection timed out === mwright1night [n=mwright1@203-214-15-102.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [10:56] (END) [10:56] Quick question [10:57] is edubuntu from the same source repository as ubuntu and kubuntu [10:57] alison, that doesnt look like login attempt at all... [10:57] just a different default package sleectin? [10:57] mwright1night, yes [10:57] also does anyone know if the "Teacher Tool" replacement [10:57] mwright1night, there are edubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-server metapackages [10:57] which was on the core todo list for edubuntu is in the edubuntu [10:57] mwright1night, its not ready yet [10:57] do you know when? [10:58] i'll work on it the next weeks and trigger a backport of the package for breezy [10:58] fantastic [10:58] I am rolling out some terminal servers for some schools running LTSP [10:58] and I currently use Teachertool, but it's not that clean [10:59] but it'll only have basic functionallity, not more than the original TeacherTool yet [10:59] that's ok [10:59] it will be awesome all the same [10:59] will you use x11vnc or something else? [10:59] but i plan a plugin mechanism, so you can let your stsdents write extensions for it in the python class ;) [11:00] I also use it for remote helpdesk [11:00] so keep that in mind [11:00] gnome has already vnc built in... [11:00] teachertool is the fancy toolie to see running sessions and stuff or am i confused with something else? [11:00] that it's use is beyond the class room [11:00] It has two functions [11:00] it will broadcast your desktop to the class [11:00] and it will spy on a session [11:00] since i have all settings centralized available in gconf oon the server, the vnc part is fairly easy [11:01] I login to my terminal servers remotely using FreeNX then I use TeacherTool in interactive spy mode to do helpdesk [11:01] I even do it from my 3G Mobile phone internet card which has a lot of latency and it works ok [11:02] alison, try another login and look if a line starting with: "ssh command line:" shows up [11:02] alison, on the login manager .... (ctrl-alt-f7) [11:03] mwright1night, i hope we'll have freeNX in ubuntu before dapper to have it in the next release [11:03] ok, I was trying that just now. I think my previous login attempts might not have been logged, because I just restarted the client after it hung with the clock icon [11:03] they guy working on it for us had some other priorities so it didnt make breezy [11:04] alison, yes, if you rebooted the client the log will be empty [11:06] ogra, yes, there's an ssh command line line. [11:06] can you post it here ? [11:07] ok ogra.. I appreciate your fine work, [11:07] I have to goto work now [11:07] Issh command line: ['ssh', '-v', '-X', '-c', 'blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc','alison@192.168.101.254', 'env', 'LTSP_CLIENT="ltsp"', '/etc/X11/Xsession', ';','kill -1 $PPID'] [11:07] thanks for the update, I will proceed to install edubuntu, cause we're going live for next year [11:07] *ssh, not lssh [11:08] and it sounds like a safe bet that Teachers Pet will be ready [11:08] gah, where does it get the SERVER variable from ? [11:08] I'm going to use original ltsp 4.2 as Muekow/ubuntu isn't quite mature enough yet [11:08] mwright1night, until next year ? haha, indeed [11:10] mwright1night, oh, note that teachers pet will be written for ubuntu ltsp.... it wont support tcp X connections, only ssh like ubuntu's ltsp [11:12] alison, are you sure you havent set the server in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ? [11:12] I did a filesystem-wide search for lts.conf. the only place it shows up is in the docs as an example file [11:12] hmm, really strange [11:13] i have no idea where the 192.168.101.254 comes from [11:13] that's the default ltsp server ip address, right? [11:14] it shouldnt be.... [11:14] the default should be your ltsp server 192.168.2.1 [11:14] ok... [11:14] oh that's bad [11:15] looks like I"m not using Teachers pet [11:15] dam [11:15] mwright1night, look like youre using teacherTool then [11:15] *looks [11:15] yep [11:16] main thing is ltsp 4.2 (not yet released) will dynamically do local devices very nicely and local apps very nicely [11:16] And that is something of high value to my setups [11:16] edubuntu wil do that too in our next release [11:16] I"m sure when April edition comes out they will be parallel in functionality [11:17] Will jim be adopting the ssh tunnelled X setup that is in ubuntu [11:17] i'll integrate hotplug/udev/hal/dbus with the server for the next release [11:18] as weel as i'm working on ssh tunneled gstreamer setups for audio support through theora streaming... [11:18] cool this is very exciting [11:18] LTSP + OO 2.0 = BillyGs demise [11:18] we're working very tight together [11:19] thanks again -- it's a fine contribution, must run to setup the training network @ work [11:19] cya [11:19] the ltsp conference is held "inside" the ubuntu conference in motreal in two weeks [11:20] alison, ok... lets try what happens if you set the SERVER variable in lts.conf... [11:21] so presumably I can fix this with an lts.conf? [11:21] ok [11:21] alison, hit alt-f2 on the server [11:21] ok [11:21] paste or type : gksudo "gedit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" [11:22] add/paste: [Default] SERVER = "192.168.2.1" [11:22] save he file and reboot the client... [11:22] *the [11:23] wait... what the heck... there's stuff there === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu [11:23] our infamous 192.168.101.254 [11:24] sorry, I must be going crazy. [11:24] I thought I checked for a file there [11:24] so I only need the one SERVER line? [11:24] or maybe I should just try deleting this? [11:25] the file, I mean [11:26] yes, delete it... except you have a non us keymap, then add at least the contens as described on http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientKeymap [11:26] but wipe everything else from that file [11:26] ok, keymap is us. file deleted. [11:26] if you use a us keyboard, just delete it [11:26] :) [11:27] do I need to restart anything? [11:28] yes, the client... it reads lts.conf on boot [11:28] ok [11:30] if you want to lock the root password for the clients again (makes sense for security) run "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -l" [11:32] SUCCESS!! [11:32] YAY !! [11:32] :) === ajmitch_ celebrates [11:33] what's going on? :) [11:33] we celebrate a fixed ltsp setup [11:33] I got my first successful client login [11:35] ok... is there anything special I have to do to get internet access going through the second network card on the server? [11:35] alison, there is a howto... noted at the bottom of the Install notes (see /topic) [11:35] ok [11:35] argh... [11:36] no its not noted there [11:36] http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup [11:36] ^^^ at the bottom there [11:37] great. thanks. [11:37] and thank you so much for your help, ogra. there are going to be some really happy kids in a school in Harlem, NY this week. [11:38] cool [11:38] thats what i work for, thanks :) [11:39] Isaac Pflaum, the president of the non-profit I'm working for (heragroup.org), wishes to thank you, too. we've been trying to get this project running since August. [11:39] if you ave any probs, just come back and ask :) i built edubuntu, i know all internals :) [11:40] *have [11:40] :) thanks [11:40] any news on 5.10 ppc? [11:41] runaway, there wont be one officially, it didnt recieve enough testing [11:41] ever? [11:41]