[12:04] <_sam> i almost think i like this KDE better than gnome...
[12:05] <bobbyd> how do I update hoary to breezy just over the net?
[12:05] <chavo> _sam, give it a little more time and you'll learn to love it
[12:06] <chavo> !upgradetobreezy
[12:06] <ubotu> chavo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:06] <chavo> bobbyd, yes it's very easy
[12:06] <_sam> bobbyd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade here is something
[12:07] <_sam> but!
[12:07] <_sam> When I did my dist-upgrade xchat and gaim stopped working.
[12:07] <libben> http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=575.0
[12:07] <chavo> basically change all instances of hoary to breezy in your sources.list
[12:07] <_sam> I just have a problem with the KDE name and the fact that all apps start with K.
[12:08] <chavo> I downloaded the iso though, because I want to use it for other computers
[12:08] <chavo> _sam, nothing a little therapy won't fix
[12:08] <chavo> did you take your happy piulls today?
[12:08] <bobbyd> _sam, thanks
[12:08] <_sam> I guess I'll learn to live with it.
[12:09] <_sam> Why doesn't Konversation(ugh) have any server lists included with it?
[12:10] <_sam> Kde has its own sudo? kdesu?
[12:12] <Chousuke> I always think of japanese when I see kdesu :P
[12:13] <phoenixbyrd> can I ask a rather dumb question that'll prolly get me flamed ...
[12:13] <Chousuke> try.
[12:13] <Chousuke> :P
[12:13] <phoenixbyrd> the linux kernel is the actual OS, right?
[12:13] <chavo> phoenixbyrd, let me spark up my flamethrower
[12:13] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: It depends on interpretation
[12:14] <phoenixbyrd> I mean.... every distro uses the same linux kernel... so, what's the actual differences between each distro beside's what's bundled with the kernel?
[12:14] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: The actual kernel alone is pretty useless without any userspace utilities :/
[12:14] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: exactly what's bundled with the kernel :P
[12:14] <Chousuke> that makes a HUGE difference.
[12:15] <phoenixbyrd> right, but ther kernel IS the OS, even without the apps... right? or am I just not getting it. What exactley make's up the linux OS
[12:15] <Chousuke> Well, Linux is the kernel
[12:15] <Chousuke> and a "Linux OS" is a misnomer, according to some
[12:16] <phoenixbyrd> cuz I just got into a fucking argument over how I'm stupid for using kubuntu and not slackware just cuz kubuntu is more user friendly so I told him he's a fucking idiot cuz we're using the same OS, the LINUX Kernel
[12:16] <Chousuke> I think an OS is a kernel and some userspace tools.
[12:16] <Chousuke> at the very least.
[12:16] <crimsun> there's little point in being pedantic
[12:16] <chavo> phoenixbyrd, some linux people are like that.
[12:16] <phoenixbyrd> idk... I just don't understand these stupid distro wars between the more hardcore linux user's.... it's the same fucking OS to me
[12:17] <xtacocorex> i think that linux is linux and no matter what, there is still a learning curve to it
[12:17] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: Kubuntu and slackware can be considered different OSes built on the same core. :)
[12:17] <chavo> it is the same, what people fail to see is that Linux is about choice
[12:17] <crimsun> we should move beyond the trifling issues of what to call it "properly" and resume creating the infrastructure that allows freedom of choice. That is, after all, what Ubuntu - and thus Kubuntu - is all about.
[12:17] <chavo> and freedom, it is not about being leet
[12:17] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: slack and kubuntu work differently enough, wouldn't you agree?
[12:18] <phoenixbyrd> I chose kubuntu because of how easy it is... it's my main desktop/gamming os now and I need my wife and kids... and idk anything about slack. couldn't get it installed so I gave up on it
[12:18] <phoenixbyrd> bleh, need sumthing easy for my wife n kids
[12:18] <Chousuke> Then Kubuntu is good for tou :)
[12:18] <Chousuke> you*
[12:18] <Chousuke> slack is different, and it will work for others.
[12:18] <phoenixbyrd> this guy is just being a fucking lil faggot
[12:18] <Chousuke> No use calling him names.
[12:19] <chavo> phoenixbyrd, I've been using linux since '99 and have used just about all of the major distros. I'm tired of doing all that crap by hand.
[12:19] <Riddell> phoenixbyrd: don't use homophobic language in here
[12:19] <Chousuke> Even though someone's being stupid, it's good to stay polite.
[12:19] <chavo> phoenixbyrd, dont stoop to his level. relax and enjoy your new system
[12:19] <Chousuke> Or well, "polite"
[12:20] <chavo> there is something eating him up inside that makes him act that way, and it's punishment enough
[12:20] <Chousuke> I never call people names unless I really know they deserve it, but there are other ways to burn with words. :)
[12:20] <phoenixbyrd> he's just jealous I can use KDE and he can't.... he's only got 32MB ram :P
[12:20] <Chousuke> Hehe :D
[12:21] <geiseri> hiya Riddell 
[12:21] <xtacocorex> who still owns a computer with 32Mb ram?
[12:21] <Chousuke> Well, Slack's probably good for him then.
[12:21] <chavo> One thing I don't understand is how people can use derogatory remarks against something that is provided to you for no charge
[12:21] <Riddell> geiseri: yeah, I'm waiting on review before uploading the update
[12:21] <geiseri> Riddell: cool
[12:21] <Riddell> and everyone is sleeping this weekend
[12:21] <geiseri> Riddell: i wont update our lab until next friday so thats cool
[12:21] <chavo> man my video card has 128M of ram
[12:22] <libben> Riddell: http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=575.msg2502#msg2502
[12:22] <Riddell> geiseri: what's one of them?
[12:22] <Chousuke> pismo? :P
[12:22] <libben> im trying to get some understanding in this.
[12:23] <geiseri> Riddell: my media kio issues?
[12:23] <geiseri> Riddell: it seems that nothing will show up in the media directory
[12:23] <geiseri> on login though it will mount one of my usb drives though
[12:23] <Riddell> geiseri: I was meaning what's a pismo powerbook
[12:24] <geiseri> Riddell: ah, its the second generation G3 powerbook
[12:24] <Riddell> libben: menu being k-menu?
[12:24] <geiseri> Riddell: 400Mhz, 378Mb ram, rage128 card
[12:24] <Chousuke> heh
[12:24] <Riddell> geiseri: oh aye, think I saw you with that at some conference
[12:24] <Chousuke> I have a G4 powerbook. Dunno which G
[12:24] <geiseri> Riddell: yeah i have had it since fall 2000
[12:24] <Chousuke> 1.33MHz and 1.25Gb of ram. :)
[12:24] <Riddell> geiseri: well I can give you the fix if you want to compile it but compiling kdebase on that thing might take some time
[12:25] <geiseri> Riddell: yeah, i can wait for the update
[12:25] <libben> Riddell: if u mean the big K in the left bottom then yes =) the K menu 
[12:26] <Riddell> libben: do you have adept installed?  can you run it from the command line?
[12:26] <libben> i installed adept after i upgraded to final breezy, and yes i can run it. 
[12:26] <libben> but i should run it with kdesu?
[12:27] <Riddell> libben: try running kbuildsycoca and see if it then appears in k-menu->system
[12:28] <xtacocorex> is there anyway i can get kopete to run faster in hoary?
[12:29] <libben> kbuildsycoca is that something i should install?
[12:29] <Riddell> libben: it comes with KDE, run it on the command line
[12:30] <libben> yes, just noticed it, i did it with sudo
[12:30] <libben> alot of warnings
[12:30] <libben> just ignoring the warnings?
[12:30] <Riddell> don't run it with sudo
[12:30] <Riddell> ignore the warnings
[12:31] <libben> well i was needed to run it with sudo
[12:31] <libben> otherwise i would get some errors 
[12:32] <libben> Riddell: http://libben.pastebin.com/394846
[12:32] <libben> after line 9, its with sudo... 
[12:33] <Riddell> kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca'!
[12:33] <Riddell> kbuildsycoca: Wrong permissions on directory? Disk full?
[12:33] <Riddell> that'll be your error then, wrong permissions
[12:33] <libben> and why is this ?
[12:33] <Riddell> libben: ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[12:34] <libben> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 870930 2005-10-16 00:29 /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[12:35] <libben> so what do i do? change so its libben libben instead of root?
[12:36] <Riddell> libben: sudo chown libben.libeen -R /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/
[12:36] <libben> u mean libben.libben in there =) and not libeen
[12:36] <_P_> hi riddel
[12:37] <_P_> hi Riddell
[12:38] <Riddell> libben: whatever your username and group is
[12:38] <libben> how do i know that
[12:38] <Riddell> group will be same as username
[12:38] <EnorMOZ> does kftpgrabber work for kubuntu-breezy ??
[12:38] <Riddell> username is libben
[12:38] <_P_> someone using openoffice2 on amd64 ?
[12:38] <Riddell> hi _P_ 
[12:38] <_P_> it daesnt work :(
[12:38] <Riddell> _P_: there's no openoffice.org2-kde package if that's your question
[12:38] <libben> Riddell: so thats all? now it should all be updated?
[12:39] <Riddell> libben: run kbuildsycoca again
[12:39] <Riddell> without sudo
[12:39] <libben> allready done that =) so much i could figure out =)
[12:39] <Riddell> don't ever run KDE programs with sudo, it will break things in random ways
[12:39] <_P_> the problem is not oo2-kde but just all oo2 
[12:39] <_P_> it daesnt start 
[12:39] <libben> kdesu is good though?
[12:40] <Riddell> yes
[12:40] <libben> hmm
[12:42] <fatejudger> adept keeps freezing when I try and uninstall two or more packages at a time
[12:43] <fatejudger> can I fix this somehow?
[12:43] <fatejudger> like, a workaround
[12:44] <EnorMOZ> Does anyone have kftpgrabber working with breezy ??
[12:46] <jrattner1> i dont see anything in adept
[12:47] <libben> shouldent katapult be seen in Kmenu?
[12:49] <Riddell> libben: no, it doesn't have a menu entry
[12:49] <Riddell> libben: you might have something else assigned to the alt+space shortcut
[12:53] <libben> i have terminal assigned to winkey and space
[12:53] <libben> how can i check the shortcuts?
[12:56] <libben> can i turn of KDE Write Daemon?
[12:56] <libben> its just one pc in my home
[12:57] <Riddell> yes
[12:57] <Riddell> look in system settings for shortcuts
[12:59] <foodcoman> Greetingz!
[01:07] <troth> i installed breezy as recommended in here with the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, but now the desktop will not load at all and i cannot run a live cd from my dvd drive pls help
[01:07] <samu2> does kubuntu come with xchat?
[01:08] <chavo> samu2, no use konvesation or apt-get install xhat
[01:09] <samu2> I have to re-install my system and am trying to figure if it would be less painful to go with kubuntu or ubuntu.
[01:16] <samu2> At least it seems like #ubuntu is more active :)
[01:19] <foodcoman> samu2: Ubuntu is the base.  KDE is the elected choice of the desktop.
[01:19] <samu2> I know that.
[01:19] <foodcoman> So are do you like Gnome or KDE?
[01:19] <samu2> Haven't made up my mind yet.
[01:20] <foodcoman> Ah, then run both.
[01:20] <Tm_T> samu2: KDE <3<3
[01:20] <foodcoman> You can install Ubuntu and add KDE or visa versa.
[01:20] <Tm_T> no, forget gnome, gnome is just a good looking whore
[01:20] <samu2> But when you install both, you get like two calculators and two text editors and your menus get all cluttered up.
[01:20] <Tm_T> err, less good looking
[01:20] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[01:20] <foodcoman> Tm_T: has got my back!   =)
[01:21] <samu2> So why do you prefer KDE to gnome?
[01:21] <foodcoman> Or run 2 machines for awhile till you find what you like.
[01:22] <samu2> foodcoman i actually have a second machine here. but i run XP on it so i can use my TV card and itunes.
[01:22] <Tm_T> KDE <3<3<3
[01:22] <troth> pls help
[01:22] <samu2> it is also my ubuntu test machine so it has gnome, KDE and xfce on it.
[01:23] <foodcoman> I am booting between XP Pro and Kubuntu.... Until I get my Hauppauge pvr-350 working with Myth or something.
[01:23] <foodcoman> Troth:  Ask and maybe someone knows.
[01:23] <troth> i installed breezy as recommended in here with the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, but now the desktop will not load at all and i cannot run a live cd from my dvd drive pls help
[01:23] <foodcoman> did you upgrade?
[01:24] <troth> yes i followed all the instructions
[01:24] <cpalma> could someone help me out with this: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394895
[01:24] <foodcoman> I had trouble win it added one of the 2.6.12-9 kernel and headers when I upgraded.
[01:25] <foodcoman> I choose the 12-8 that was still there in grub and got back in.
[01:25] <foodcoman> I descided to do a fresh install and check out LVM... So I dont have a fix for you.
[01:26] <foodcoman> I would hang just before X started correct?
[01:27] <sorush20> anyone here using karamba
[01:27] <troth> it will ask my user and pass and kick me right to the shell, no gui would load or anything
[01:27] <foodcoman> cpalma: just means you dont have the key that auths the repo.
[01:27] <cpalma> how do i import it?
[01:27] <foodcoman> check out www.ubuntuguide.org on the adding repos sections.  talks about gpg keys.
[01:27] <cpalma> okay thanks
[01:27] <`Nomad> !prodvd
[01:27] <ubotu> `Nomad: No idea
[01:27] <`Nomad> !cdrecord
[01:27] <ubotu> `Nomad: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:28] <foodcoman> cpalma: That info is probably still for hoary, so use it as example.
[01:28] <`Nomad> argh!  Can anyone tell me what cdrecord-ProDVD is and why it,s not bundled in?  Do we have to buy it for xcdroast to work with DVDs?
[01:29] <cpalma> yea but it will do ;)
[01:29] <foodcoman> `Nomad: If you search www.ubuntuforums.org there is a DVD FAQ i thought I read a couple months ago.
[01:30] <foodcoman> `Nomad: search on DVD backup or some things like that you should get a good hit.
[01:30] <`Nomad> thansk
[01:30] <troth> so basically i should go back to windows, format and start all over?
[01:30] <foodcoman> I suck, but stearing to info is worth 2 cents eh?
[01:30] <_P_> there is someone with an amd64?
[01:31] <foodcoman> troth:  Depends on how much time you want to spend trying to fix the old.
[01:31] <SbCl3> i'm on a live CD, what is the password for root?
[01:31] <foodcoman> I looked at is as opportunity to dump all my mistakes!    =D
[01:31] <troth> im a newb, so complicated wont work for me...
[01:31] <foodcoman> SbCl3: your password.  Kubuntu uses a sudo root.
[01:32] <SbCl3> i wasn't given a password on this live cd
[01:32] <foodcoman> troth:  Same here!
[01:32] <foodcoman> SbCl3: did it ask you for a user and pass when you booted?
[01:32] <SbCl3> no
[01:32] <foodcoman> Ok my bad.
[01:33] <foodcoman> hrmmm.  I though it would have created a user for you on startup.
[01:33] <foodcoman> Dont listen to me then, until I try it.
[01:33] <SbCl3> i think there is no needed password; sudo didn't ask for anything o_o
[01:33] <foodcoman> Prob true then.
[01:33] <foodcoman> dont ask, dont tell.
[01:33] <foodcoman> Must not need one.
[01:34] <foodcoman> hey in a console if you do sudo -i does it give you a #
[01:34] <xtacocorex> i think it's sudo -s
[01:34] <xtacocorex> but i've only used it a couple of times
[01:34] <foodcoman> hrmmm both worked just now.
[01:35] <SbCl3> btw, i updated to breezy and kdm wouldn't start up no matter what i did, so i'm stuck on a live cd for now :/
[01:35] <xtacocorex> wierd
[01:35] <xtacocorex> let me try it a second
[01:35] <elementarmy> how do i get mp3 playback on amarok?
[01:35] <foodcoman> Upgrade with new kernel did something strange.  alot of us seems to have had that.  I reinstalled the final.
[01:35] <troth> SbCl3: me too
[01:36] <foodcoman> elementarmy: Sorry I use xmms for mp3
[01:36] <SbCl3> really? it isn't just me?
[01:36] <SbCl3> sweet
[01:36] <troth> ya i guess..
[01:36] <SbCl3> is there a way for me to go back to hoary?
[01:36] <troth> did it just kick you to the shell?
[01:37] <xtacocorex> foodcoman: i don't think it matters, from the man page, it just says that -i is to simulate login
[01:37] <foodcoman> SbCl3: You should have a grub option to choose your older kernel at boot time.  should let you in.
[01:37] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: what version of kubutu are you running?
[01:37] <foodcoman> xtacocorex: gotcha!
[01:38] <elementarmy> is xmms better than amarok?
[01:38] <elementarmy> 5.10
[01:38] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i use amarok
[01:38] <foodcoman> elementarmy: Couldnt say, I typically used what worked for me.  I liked shoutcast.com for streams and xmms worked awesome for that.
[01:38] <SbCl3> troth: yeah, it kicked me to the shell
[01:38] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: hmm, i was going to send you to the forums, but i don't know where the mp3 stuff for breezy is
[01:39] <elementarmy> damn
[01:39] <SbCl3> how do i choose the older kernel at boot time, and how do i get rid of breezy?
[01:39] <troth> oh so familiar.... hehehe
[01:39] <SbCl3> else i need to reformat, i think
[01:39] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: but, once i find the one for hoary, i'll send you there and it should be pretty similar
[01:39] <fatejudger> why can't I mount my network folders in Breezy?
[01:39] <elementarmy> cool thanks
[01:39] <fatejudger> I was able to do it just fine in Hoary
[01:40] <foodcoman> SbCl3: when I upgraded I had several choices that showed the kernel version?  do you?
[01:40] <fatejudger> with "sudo mount //ComputerName/folder /mountpoint/"
[01:40] <fatejudger> can anyone help me out with this?
[01:40] <SbCl3> foodcoman: no
[01:40] <fatejudger> !samba
[01:40] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:40] <foodcoman> SbCl3: Then I dont think that will work.
[01:40] <troth> foodcomman: i have the same prob and no i dont either
[01:40] <SbCl3> how do i get rid of breezy?
[01:41] <foodcoman> troth: I have this prob around preview or rc1.  Things changed.
[01:41] <elementarmy> how can i find my windows hd
[01:41] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:41] <foodcoman> SbCl3: Can you backup your home dir and install breezy from scratch.  thats the road I took.
[01:41] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: tells you exactly what codecs to install
[01:41] <elementarmy> gracias
[01:41] <foodcoman> BBL.
[01:42] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: de nada
[01:42] <fatejudger> nevermind, I fixed it
[01:42] <SbCl3> is breezy still unstable?
[01:43] <SbCl3> i don't want unstable after all that has happened
[01:43] <Phantom^^> If anyone here is using kde 3.5 beta with breezy can i jack their sources.list file please ?
[01:44] <elementarmy> xtacocorex: it says gstreamer0.8-plugins could not be found
[01:44] <SbCl3> is breezy stable?
[01:45] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: there should be a link on that website that says 'how to install extra repositories'
[01:45] <fatejudger> SbCl3: yes, it is
[01:45] <elementarmy> alrighty then :-)
[01:45] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: click on that, and it'll tell you what repositories to add
[01:45] <SbCl3> okay; i'll install from scratch then
[01:45] <fatejudger> what is up with GStreamer?
[01:45] <fatejudger> it can't play a single file
[01:45] <fatejudger> it's the most crippled player ever
[01:46] <humbolt> there is no opengpg support in gpgme packages!!! what's wrong? where can I find packages with compiled in support?
[01:48] <elementarmy> shit now i dont have gedit
[01:49] <Mez> Phantom^^, er... maybe :P
[01:49] <Mez> Phantom^^, what do I get out of it
[01:49] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: you're running kde right?
[01:49] <elementarmy> yes
[01:49] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: gedit is for gnome
[01:49] <elementarmy> lol
[01:49] <elementarmy> i am new
[01:49] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list from the command line
[01:50] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: sudo won't work on the command line for kate, but does for other kde apps
[01:50] <elementarmy> ok
[01:53] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: do you have synaptic on your system?
[01:53] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: wait, you're running breezy so you'd have adept
[01:53] <Ravensky> that's nice, I right click on a Flash element in Firefox and it crashes
[01:54] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i was going to say that i thought that synaptic put repos into the source.list file, but i can't remember since it was a while since i installed it
[01:55] <elementarmy> xtacocorex: do i need to edit all six lines cause i only have two
[01:56] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: well, i'd just take the repos that you don't have that are listed on the website and just paste them in there and not the rest of the stuff
[01:56] <elementarmy> cool
[01:57] <elementarmy> i
[01:57] <elementarmy> i"am updating now :-)
[01:58] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'm glad i didn't fubar your system
[01:58] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'm not really new to linux, but haven't really walked anyone through installing something on their sysytem
[01:59] <fernando> hi...I tray to install skype in kubunto 5.10.. any help?
[01:59] <troth> how do i restart the xfs service from the shell?
[01:59] <elementarmy> still cant find plugins
[02:01] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#xmms
[02:01] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: that is the section on installing xmms
[02:01] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i haven't done that, so i don't know how it'll go
[02:02] <fatejudger> has anyone gotten gstreamer to work correctly in Breezy?
[02:02] <xtacocorex> crap
[02:03] <SbCl3> i'm on a live cd and need to back up mysql...i can't start mysql, though. how might i go about backing it up?
[02:03] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i forgot to mention that in the sources.list file, every  instance of hoary needs to be breezy
[02:03] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: damn, my bad
[02:04] <elementarmy> crap i'll start over :-)
[02:08] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: how's it going on your end?
[02:09] <elementarmy> ok got every thing done but when it ask if i whant to continue (i sayed yes) it just aborts
[02:09] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: you using the command line to install?
[02:09] <elementarmy> yes
[02:10] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd get synaptic and use that
[02:11] <elementarmy> whats synaptic
[02:11] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: it's a package manager/installer
[02:11] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: pretty much a font-end for apt-get
[02:12] <elementarmy> how to get?
[02:12] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:13] <elementarmy> synaptic is installing now
[02:13] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: awesome
[02:14] <WMCoolmon> hey, i just upgraded to breezy and am having a few problems...
[02:15] <elementarmy> cool synaptic is installed :-)
[02:15] <WMCoolmon> 1) text in firefox isn't rendering anymore
[02:15] <WMCoolmon> 2) I accidentally unplugged my Audigy 2 NX...I tried restarting arts from the control center, but that isn't working anymore
[02:15] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: it should be found in system menu under kmenu
[02:15] <SbCl3> WMCoolmon: "sudo artsd"?
[02:16] <elementarmy> dont see it
[02:16] <WMCoolmon> sudo artsd says "device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)"
[02:16] <elementarmy> never mind found it
[02:17] <elementarmy> now what?
[02:18] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: cool, there is a search feature that allows you to search for packages, or if you go to the multimedia section under the sections tab, you can browse the different packages to install
[02:18] <SbCl3> kynaptic does that too
[02:19] <xtacocorex> SbCl3: that it does, but when i got into the os, it was suggested that i use synaptic
[02:19] <xtacocorex> SbCl3: i'm still running hoary, so i don't have access to adept yet, at least i think i don't
[02:19] <elementarmy> what do i need to install
[02:19] <SillyCone> When playing with translucency settings in KDE, is there a way to assign specific translucency rules to a specific program or window?
[02:19] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd try that same list that was on ubuntuguide
[02:20] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: otherwise, you could randomly pick stuff, which is what i did and not recommended
[02:20] <elementarmy> whats akode/
[02:20] <elementarmy> *.
[02:21] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: if you click on the package name, it will bring up a description of it
[02:21] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i don't remember what it is off the top of my head
[02:22] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd get that if you don't have it, brb too, gotta go walk the dog
[02:24] <SillyCone> anybody?
[02:24] <elementarmy> cool thanks
[02:24] <elementarmy> i got it from here ,you rock!!
[02:25] <fatejudger> is it safe to use Breezy Backports?
[02:25] <Tallia1-KubuntU> hi guys
[02:25] <Tallia1-KubuntU> could i know a thing
[02:25] <Mez> THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BREEZY BACKPRTS ATM
[02:26] <Tallia1-KubuntU> in the description of the main breezy upgrades was wrote that 
[02:26] <Tallia1-KubuntU> an automount module was inserted..
[02:26] <Tallia1-KubuntU> what is the name of that module? i only changed the repositories names so i have to install that manually!!
[02:26] <elementarmy> got to go (drunkin happiness)?
[02:39] <iface> hey guys, how to install mp3 support?
[02:40] <ep> I want to go with blackdown unless Sun's java is a lot better. How do i install blackdown java, its not in my repostories?
[02:41] <cpalma> iface: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:42] <iface> thx
[02:42] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ehi?
[02:43] <Tallia1-KubuntU> someone can tell me the name of that module?
[02:44] <puckman> apart from that pesky admin bug
[02:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ?
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> pleasee!!!
[02:45] <puckman> ?
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i read on a handout for the breezy that they add support for automount of media devices
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> how? 
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i have to install a particular package?
[02:46] <conn> hi, I'm running kubuntu breezy, but I'm having a problem with my system, but it seems to affect gtk apps. I installed firefox, and when I load a page that's sufficiently long to scroll down, firefox's scroll speed is very poor, it jerks and renders very slowly, but the same site in konqueror scrolls very smoothly and fast. Any ideas? Additionally, firefox is displaying a black mouse cursor when the system theme is the default white.
[02:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> puckman: do you know what's the name^?
[02:46] <blueyed_> When I ssh into my server I (as non-root) can type umlauts. But after "su -" they get not recognized anymore. If I just do "su" (no login shell) it also works. A difference for example is that with "su -" LANG is not set. Is that the cause?
[02:47] <puckman> Tallia1-KubuntU: ?
[02:47] <puckman> Name of what?
[02:47] <blueyed_> Tallia1-KubuntU: If you have ubuntu-dekstop or kubuntu-desktop this package should be included.
[02:47] <puckman> I mean that bug where you have to delete the cache file
[02:48] <puckman> otherwise the admin access to certain panels wornt work
[02:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> blueyed_: i changed only the repositories names.... so maybe it is unselected
[02:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> puckman: look above
[02:50] <blueyed_> Tallia1-KubuntU: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or select it in synaptic/adept.
[02:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> what change between synaptic and adept?
[02:51] <puckman> Tallia1-KubuntU: look at what?
[02:51] <blueyed_> ..what he asked for. The name of the automount package.
[02:57] <Kibou> anyone know hot to show hidden folders in the sections of the navigation panel in konqueror?
[02:58] <anomaly> anyone using AMD64? I have a 3000 @ 1.8, but Kubuntu is posting with /proc/cpuinfo at 1001Mhz
[03:01] <Riddell> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+  cpu MHz         : 2004.615
[03:02] <Tm_T> :)
[03:02] <wotan> hi
[03:02] <Tm_T> hmh, my inkscape was lost
[03:02] <Riddell> I suspect both figures are just made up myself
[03:02] <anomaly> in bios it posts right and on another hdd w/ win2kpro it posts fine as well
[03:02] <Tm_T> well, installing it again
[03:03] <wotan> I'm trying to use Kmail with GnuPG, but when I try to scan the backeds, Kmail says that OpenPGP is compiled without gnupgme support
[03:03] <Riddell> wotan: see /topic
[03:03] <wotan> Riddell: mm, thanks :)
[03:11] <Tm_T> aaah!
[03:11] <Tm_T> broken inkscape :(
[03:12] <Riddell> Tm_T: what's up?
[03:12] <Tm_T> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08529210 ***
[03:12] <Tm_T> and closes immediately
[03:13] <Tm_T> or, crashes
[03:15] <jrattner1> Any update for the HAL problem yet?
[03:17] <ep> The multiverse repostories Ilisted in soure.list after the install from CD are unusable.  When I  uncomment the appropiate  ones and run update I get a bunch of failed to fetch errors.  The i get a bunch of stat errors using apt-search and other tools.
[03:18] <ep> I can comment out the mulitverse lines and all is good. But this leaves me unable to acquire certain packages. i.e. mplayer or blackdown java.  What to do?
[03:26] <sampan> i'm getting an error when i plug in a flash drive in a fresh install of kubuntu breezy.  konq comes up with a tab saying media (sda) does not exist
[03:29] <ep> Whats the problem with these repositores?  I can't use them,  Default CD install. --> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394977
[03:31] <ep> Should I try removing the 'us'?
[03:40] <ep> I guy I think i figured it out -- Just scraped those two lines alltogether and  replaced them with  lines identical to the universe and add multiverse to them.
[03:43] <ep> I don't understand why those to repositores were given in the first place.
[04:02] <Tm_T> ep: because
[04:03] <Tm_T> ep: afaik universe and multiverse etc are kept by community
[04:06] <Tallia1-KubuntU> hi guys
[04:06] <Tallia1-KubuntU> have you got any idea of how KMILO works?
[04:10] <Tm_T> what's that
[04:10] <felly> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080dde78 ***
[04:10] <felly> after running evolution and going into preferences
[04:10] <felly> any ideas?
[04:12] <Tm_T> felly: hah! *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08529210 ***
[04:12] <Tm_T> said my inkscape
[04:12] <felly> Tm_T : what do you mean?
[04:13] <brymck> can anyone offer help to a kubuntu newb?
[04:13] <Tm_T> felly: I mean there's more similar errors with gtk software
[04:13] <Tm_T> brymck: ok, what's up
[04:13] <brymck> only display size is 640x480
[04:13] <Tm_T> felly: use Kontact
[04:13] <felly> Tm_T : so is this a known issue?
[04:13] <Tallia1-KubuntU> do you know kmilo?
[04:13] <Tm_T> felly: I really hope so
[04:13] <felly> Tm_T : you're getting it too?
[04:14] <Tm_T> felly: well, I got that error when I tried run inkscape
[04:15] <Tm_T> still get
[04:15] <brymck> Tm_T: the only display setting I get is 640x480...any way to change this?
[04:15] <felly> Tm_T : good to know i guess, i'll try removing glib
[04:15] <Tm_T> brymck: ok, try in konsole: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[04:16] <brymck> Tm_T: thx, I'll let you know how this goes.
[04:17] <helpme> im running hoary....can i safely update that to breezy using install CD? without losing any of the other stuff ive installed...plz help???
[04:17] <qatsi> helpme open terminal, enter as super user and then do apt-get dist-upgrade, it will download and install everything so you upgrade to breeze ;)
[04:18] <qatsi> helpme dont need to download breeze cd and install again :p just update ;)
[04:18] <cave> damn amarok is crashing every 5 minutes
[04:18] <helpme> qatsi: ive got slow connection.....i will be getting cd from someone else
[04:19] <qatsi> helpme ok, then i dont know how to update via CD :S
[04:19] <Hobbsee> helpme: is your /home on a separate partition?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> if it is, you can just mount /home and tell it "do not format"
[04:19] <helpme> yes
[04:19] <Tm_T> cave: version?
[04:19] <qatsi> how can i set a sound card as default, somebody told me a command to set Sound Blaster Live! as defauilt, but i dont remember it, can anybody help me with that ?
[04:20] <Hobbsee> and so the / partiton will be formatted, but not /home, which will mean you keep all your docs and settings
[04:20] <helpme> Hobbsee: i dont wanna lose my biology packages ive installed....will i lose them?
[04:20] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....
[04:20] <qatsi> hu m_tadeu
[04:20] <Tm_T> m_tadeu: colours... ;)
[04:20] <qatsi> hi*-
[04:21] <m_tadeu> sorry
[04:21] <Hobbsee> helpme: um...probably...unless the install files are somewhere still on your system
[04:21] <Hobbsee> arent colours forbidden?
[04:21] <helpme> :(
[04:21] <cave> Tm_T: version 1.3
[04:21] <Hobbsee> helpme: you wont lose the settings for them, but you will probably have to redownload the program
[04:21] <Tm_T> cave: hmh, 1.3.1 or what?
[04:22] <cave> i mean.. yea 1.3.1
[04:22] <Tm_T> old :(
[04:22] <helpme> Hobbsee: thats what i dont want:(
[04:22] <cave> oh
[04:22] <cave> i'll upgrade
[04:22] <qatsi> helpme i suggest doing apt-get dist-upgrade in a fast connection, maybe moving your pc to another home ?
[04:22] <cave> but first is there a way to wipe my data from it?
[04:22] <Tm_T> cave: I think it's known issue, just hang on there, there should be update any day soon (I hope)
[04:22] <Tm_T> cave: from what?
[04:22] <qatsi> i need help using keyboard layouts..........anyone ?
[04:22] <cave> from amarok.. wipe all the music from its library
[04:23] <cave> because i put some .zip.mp3s in it
[04:23] <cave> and it started acting funny because of them i think
[04:23] <cave> so i wanna start over with only 'real'  mp3s :)
[04:23] <Tm_T> cave: ok, just remove ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[04:23] <helpme> qatsi: moving pc to another home!! sorry no one even has that fast connection here......
[04:23] <Tm_T> cave: that will give you totally fresh start
[04:24] <qatsi> helpme where are you from ?
[04:24] <helpme> qatsi: india:)
[04:24] <cave> thanks.. *looking for ~/.kde/*
[04:25] <qatsi> helpme ive heard india was quite advanced in tech.......well, maybe just waiting for it to upgrade is your only chance :s
[04:25] <qatsi> helpme 12 hours aprox :S
[04:25] <m_tadeu> when I insert a video, kde runs the new application selection dialog, but also runs a new konqueror and kaffeine. Shouldn't it run only the application dialog?
[04:25] <qatsi> helpme ahhh, by the way, qatsi means life in a lenguage from india, called Hopi, have you heard of it ?
[04:26] <helpme> nope sorry
[04:26] <qatsi> helpme uhmm :(
[04:27] <helpme> qatsi: qatsi sounds more of arabic to me
[04:27] <qatsi> helpme www.koyaanisqatsi.com :) im not lying :p
[04:28] <pospeselr> Anybody think they can help me out with getting CUPS server to work?
[04:28] <qatsi> i need some help with sound....i need gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3 but i cant find it in Adept.....ive checked my repositories and they are ok, so i cant find the reason why i dont have mp3 support
[04:29] <helpme> qatsi: never heard of this film
[04:29] <qatsi> helpme its so good :)
[04:29] <helpme> qatsi: hmmm...
[04:30] <pospeselr> I'm running from a server installation, and I've installed hplip (HP Photosmart 7660).  I can print from kate just fine and test pages print great.  I've followed the printing to a WinXP Box guide on the Ubuntu Wiki, put when I try to add printer using WinXP wizard it says that it can't find the printer.
[04:31] <cpalma> my mov files wont play and i already installed w32codecs and gstreamer plugins 
[04:31] <cpalma> any idea?
[04:31] <pospeselr> vlc?
[04:31] <qatsi> cpalma have tou checked all the codecs needed ?
[04:32] <cpalma> err, i added w32codecs gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:32] <cave> grrr... its not giving me a totally fresh start >_>
[04:32] <cpalma> actually mov files play yet only audio works not the video itself
[04:33] <qatsi> cpalma let me find the webpage where you have all the codecs needed...
[04:33] <cpalma> sweet
[04:33] <cpalma> cause i really dont like vlc at all
[04:34] <qatsi> cpalma maybe this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70227
[04:35] <cpalma> let me check it :)
[04:35] <qatsi> cpalma i could give you the ubuntuguide page, but everybody here hates it :p no teaching, just answers, they say
[04:36] <cpalma> yea.. i got lost in it
[04:36] <Hobbsee> qatsi: they say it's out of date...which is annoying
[04:36] <Hobbsee> a fair bit of it does still work
[04:37] <qatsi> Hobsee yep, also that :p crappy ubuntuguide :s but sometimes its handy :)
[04:37] <Hobbsee> very true
[04:37] <Hobbsee> !faq
[04:37] <ubotu> faq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:37] <Hobbsee> isnt bad either
[04:38] <qatsi> yep :)
[04:39] <frank23> cpalma: install kaffeine-xine
[04:39] <frank23> cpalma: then use the kaffeine engine (which is really kaffeine-xine)
[04:39] <cpalma> yea.. i guess that's what im missing
[04:40] <frank23> cpalma: xine is much better than gstreamer
[04:40] <frank23> cpalma: it should fix your problem
[04:40] <root> hello can I get some help with Package Manager please?
[04:41] <root> It is loading in read-only mode.
[04:41] <cpalma> i'll try it thanks
[04:41] <ku_dude> anybody?
[04:42] <Hobbsee> loading in read-only mode?
[04:42] <ku_dude> Yes.
[04:43] <Hobbsee> how are you trying to open it? kdesu?
[04:43] <ku_dude> I was installing RealPlayer.. I closed it while it was doing something. and since then each time I load it, it loads in read-only mode. even as root.
[04:43] <ku_dude> nope from System - > Package Manager.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> in a konsole, type "sudo apt-get update" - what does that give you?
[04:44] <ku_dude> 
[04:44] <ku_dude> any suggestion?
[04:44] <cpalma> frank23: woot! that worked, thanks alot.
[04:44] <ku_dude> one sec.
[04:46] <ku_dude> it says dpkg was interrupted. and I must run dpkg configure something..
[04:46] <ku_dude> is that the problem?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> run the dpkg configure like it tells you to then
[04:46] <Hobbsee> yes, it probably is the problem
[04:46] <ku_dude> haaa! you're cool dude..i think it's gonna work now.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:47] <ku_dude> damn!.. you're cool.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:47] <ku_dude> I need to bookmark this channel.
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:48] <ku_dude> i'm not that a pro on linux..
[04:48] <ku_dude> but i'm loving kubuntu
[04:48] <ku_dude> installed SUSE 9.3 and 10. but had pure problems.. kept freezing, dieing.. all dat crap.
[04:48] <`Nomad> !reboot
[04:48] <ubotu> No idea, `Nomad
[04:48] <`Nomad> !boot
[04:48] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, `Nomad
[04:48] <ku_dude> since i installed kubuntu.. everything's working smooooooooooth..
[04:49] <ku_dude> except for my PCTel Modem..
[04:49] <`Nomad> I have a problem where when I select reboot, it just halts my PC anyway
[04:49] <ku_dude> i'm trying to install that now, maybe you can help me.
[04:49] <ku_dude> you up for this one?
[04:50] <ku_dude> this is my last prob. if/when you help me, i'll send you a big hug.
[04:51] <Hobbsee> possibly
[04:51] <ku_dude> hey guys how do you save a chat log from konversation?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> shoot
[04:51] <ku_dude> ok it should be easy for you.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ctrl + o to access it
[04:52] <Hobbsee> it auto saves
[04:52] <ku_dude> cool. thanks Hob..
[04:52] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:52] <ku_dude> ok..about the modem.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> otherwise window, open logfile
[04:52] <ku_dude> when i do ./setup
[04:52] <ku_dude> it complains about can't find stdio.h
[04:52] <ku_dude> i know it has to do with some headers.. but I don't know which one.
[04:53] <Hobbsee> pass
[04:53] <Hobbsee> got no idea sorry
[04:53] <ku_dude> as a dial-up user.. I hate that I have to use internet repositories.
[04:54] <ku_dude> I wish ubuntu could make some universe, and multiverse ISO.
[04:54] <Hobbsee> well, they could
[04:54] <Hobbsee> but it'd go out of date fairly quickly
[04:54] <ku_dude> thanks for your help anyways.. your a cool dude.
[04:54] <jrjxx> What's the difference between universe and multiverse?
[04:55] <ku_dude> is there any utility to download the packages..
[04:55] <jrjxx> Needing stdio.h?  One second.
[04:55] <ku_dude> they should consider dial-up people.
[04:55] <ku_dude> jrjxx...i'm here..thanks for your help.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: adept, the package manager will download packages, even not installing them if you really want
[04:56] <Hobbsee> all the packages you've downloaded are kept, assuming that you havent changed the setting
[04:56] <Jacko> anyone got any ideas on why my external dvd burner on USB 1 is writing so slow (0.59x) compared to 5x on windows?
[04:56] <ku_dude> universe and multiverse have different packages.. I really don't know the difference..but ubuntu.com explains quite good.
[04:57] <ku_dude> jrjxx: do you know which package has stdio.h?
[04:57] <jrjxx> I'm using adaptic (?sp) with 2005.04.  Is adept the equivalent for 2005.10?
[04:58] <jrjxx> ku: I'm trying to look that up now, from the debian web site.
[04:58] <ku_dude> I think it is.
[04:58] <humbolt> kmail does not support gnupg any more since the final breezy release!!!!
[04:58] <`Nomad> stdio.h is a very basic package for C.  It stands for Standard IO
[04:58] <humbolt> big mistake!
[04:58] <`Nomad> You probably do not have the dev packages installed
[04:59] <sampan> how can i get rid of the bouncing icons when i click an app?  i thought i turned them off, but they won't go away? :X  fresh install of breezy kubuntu
[04:59] <Hobbsee> jrjxx: you mean synaptic?  adept is a kde equivalent that pretty much does the same thing
[04:59] <Hobbsee> !tell jrjxx about adept
[04:59] <ku_dude> I like synaptic..
[05:00] <ku_dude> wish KDE add something like that.. cause I would install all the development tools in one shot.
[05:00] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: on breezy or hoary?
[05:00] <ku_dude> now I don't know where the hell stdio.h is.
[05:00] <ku_dude> breezy
[05:00] <Hobbsee> and nothing's stopping you - apt-get install synaptic
[05:00] <Hobbsee> there's a find function
[05:00] <ku_dude> i'm gonna install it now though. synaptic ie.
[05:01] <ku_dude> Hob..is that the fast way to install an app?
[05:01] <ku_dude> sorry guys.. but I am coming from RedHat,SUSE with their bluddy RPMs?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> what, by using synaptic?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> you can use "sudo apt-get install packagename" in a konsole
[05:01] <ku_dude> i tried 'locate stdio.h'...but didn't find anything.
[05:01] <Hobbsee> that's probably the quickest
[05:01] <Ayide1> Alright im getting annoyed ... I have a fresh kubuntu install and am trying to get some drivers modules in... but im having trouble with the sources... I downloaded the sources and put them in /usr/src and then sym linked to to linux when I try to compile in a module (hsf drivers) it says that its missing the auto make file. I guess my main question is on a fresh kubuntu 5.10 install WHAT ALL DO I NEED EXTRA compile drvers into the kernel
[05:02] <`Nomad> /usr/include/bits/stdio.h
[05:02] <`Nomad> /usr/include/stdio.h
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: not sure what that is, but it's not in the repositories that i can see
[05:02] <ku_dude> cool hobbse.. (I hope that CTRL+o ting is logging this convo..cause I am getting some good juice from you guys.).
[05:02] <Ayide1> can someone please help if they can
[05:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:02] <jrjxx> On stdio.h ...
[05:02] <ku_dude> Nomad.. i didn't find it like you did..it's in some package..
[05:02] <Ayide1> im used to just getting the sources and them just working
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: helps if you use the full nicknames of the people you're talking to - you can hit tab and it will fill them in, otherwise your text doesnt come up  in red
[05:02] <jrjxx> Looks like stdio.h is in libc6-dev.  
[05:03] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: it may not matter so much here, but it definetly does in a busier channel
[05:03] <ku_dude> ok sorry.
[05:03] <jrjxx> That's the package for Debian, so Ubuntu should be the same.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: no problems :P
[05:03] <`Nomad> Ayide:  You probably do not have the dev packaged.  Look up dev in adept
[05:03] <ku_dude> kinda rust with my irc..
[05:03] <`Nomad> dev packages installed I mean
[05:03] <Ayide1> its just called dev?
[05:03] <`Nomad> no.. wait a sec
[05:03] <`Nomad> brb
[05:03] <ku_dude> haven't chat on irc for over 5 years.
[05:03] <Ayide1> thanks
[05:04] <`Nomad> I love this katapult
[05:04] <Ayide1> basically i need to know what all I need to compile into the running kernel i am not trying to compile another
[05:04] <Ayide1> I cant get online without the hsf drivers
[05:04] <jrjxx> ku: Did you get that?
[05:04] <Hobbsee> `Nomad: yep, same here...particularly with the bookmarks - it's quicker than the run command
[05:05] <ku_dude> jrjxx: gonna try that libc6 thing..one sec..(thanks)
[05:05] <`Nomad> Ayide:  There are many packages..  So that machien is not able to be online now is it?
[05:05] <Ayide1> right
[05:05] <Ayide1> I downloaded make and binutils
[05:05] <Ayide1> and headers and sources
[05:06] <`Nomad> I compile stuff for a friend of mine all the time, I can't guess it from here, but if I coudl be on your machine I could track down the missing packages from teh failed compiles and add them as needed..  You have the CD or DVD right?
[05:06] <jrjxx> ku: You specifically want the libc6-dev and not just libc6.
[05:06] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: how would you install all the dev tools..(remember I have dial-up)..
[05:06] <Ayide1> normally thats all I need but I guess kubuntu isnt very module friendly
[05:06] <Ayide1> I have dial-up too ha ha
[05:06] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: I braught my pc by a friend to install all the tools i'll need.
[05:07] <ku_dude> jrjxx: I saw it.. I know.. thanks.installing it now.
[05:07] <Hobbsee> all these people with dialup...ouch
[05:07] <Ayide1> yeah i kno
[05:07] <Ayide1> takes 2 hours for 30mb
[05:07] <`Nomad> The way I go about it is to run configure, and as errors pop up, I find what ckage is missing and install that
[05:07] <`Nomad> then recompile
[05:07] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: get them off your friend if he already has them?  otherwise leave it running overnight while you sleep, i guess
[05:07] <`Nomad> well, reconfigure..  Once configure works all the way through, you're pretty much there
[05:08] <Ayide1> so what else do I need?
[05:08] <Ayide1> all i need to do is install some drivers
[05:08] <Ayide1> -.-
[05:08] <jrjxx> I'm using dialup myself.  It's a pain to d/l many MB of stuff.  Luckily, I can burn CDs of the ISOs at least.
[05:08] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: My friend is my girlfriend..she knows nothing about computers.. I am only using DSL line to install packes..
[05:08] <`Nomad> and libc6-dev is definitely needed :)
[05:09] <Ayide1> why does the error missing auto cinfig come up?
[05:09] <Ayide1> config** why isnt that with the sources?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> well borrow her dsl, connect to it (it should auto recognise if it's an eth0 connection - mine does here in aussie, not sure about yours), and then install normally thru adept or via the command line
[05:09] <`Nomad> configure is not there?
[05:09] <ku_dude> jrjxx: burn ISO cds? from where? For the universe, and multiverse too?
[05:09] <ku_dude> jrjxx: hook me up dude.
[05:09] <Ayide1> not the auto config file needed for modules to compile into running kernel
[05:10] <ku_dude> ok guys..brb.. gonna try install that pctel driver again. it's a winmodem. I can't find a hardware modem in toronto..
[05:10] <Ayide1> i downloaded them from the ubuntu pool
[05:10] <shiv> which repo has rcconf?
[05:10] <petros> hi
[05:10] <Ayide1> ku_dude what all did you do to get to be able to install them drivers?
[05:11] <Ayide1> ku_dude: 
[05:11] <petros> which package do i have to install for the gcc command?
[05:11] <ku_dude> Ayide1: sorry Ai.. didn't get you.
[05:11] <Ayide1> oh he left already : (
[05:11] <Ayide1> oh okay
[05:11] <Ayide1> your installing modem drivers right?
[05:11] <shiv> has anybody got the 855resolution working in breezy?
[05:11] <petros> ii  gcc-4.0-base                          4.0.1-4ubuntu9                     The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)
[05:11] <petros> is installed
[05:11] <ku_dude> Ayide1: yes.. a software modem.. PCTel HSP MicroModem 56
[05:11] <Ayide1> ku_dude: well you had to download kernel-sources and stuff extra right? what all did you need?
[05:12] <xtacocorex> petros: do you have build-essential installed?
[05:12] <ku_dude> I got a driver from linmodems.org
[05:12] <Ayide1> I have a conext and need to install drivers
[05:12] <petros> xtacocorex: no
[05:12] <Ayide1> I bought them
[05:12] <crescent> can anyone please help me with my floppy problem
[05:12] <crescent> please
[05:12] <Ayide1> but I need to have the sources and everything working
[05:12] <xtacocorex> petros: i would download that, that should work for you
[05:12] <ku_dude> Ayide1: whell the README file told me what I needed.
[05:12] <petros> ok, thx
[05:12] <Ayide1> ku_dude: just wondering what all you needed
[05:12] <xtacocorex> petros: np
[05:12] <m_tadeu> does anyone know how to solve webcam problems?
[05:12] <ku_dude> Ayide1: kernel source is a must.. gc, make, etc..
[05:13] <m_tadeu> sorry...
[05:13] <Ayide1> i know what I need for the drivers.. just dont know how to get the sources compilable in ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:13] <Ayide1> gc isnt there?
[05:13] <Ayide1> crap
[05:13] <Ayide1> alright
[05:13] <Ayide1> did you need the kernel tree?
[05:14] <crescent> hey my printer is not in linuxprinter.org
[05:14] <Ayide1> ku_dude: did you need the kernel tree as well?
[05:14] <crescent> what should i do?
[05:14] <ku_dude> Ayide1: nope just the current kernel source.
[05:14] <Ayide1> alight and then it worked after gcc and stuff
[05:14] <ku_dude> `Nomad: wohoo....now I have stdio.h.. gonna try the pctel modem install now. brb guys.
[05:15] <helpme> are there any side-effects of prelinking?
[05:15] <Ayide1> this is not going to be fun...
[05:17] <shiv> has anybody got the 855resolution working in breezy?
[05:17] <ku_dude> i'm back..
[05:17] <ku_dude> damn it almost installed.
[05:17] <ku_dude> it detected the modem.. found it.. but had a compilation error..gonna see my makelog
[05:19] <ku_dude> `Nomad: still having problems with compilers..
[05:20] <crescent> hi any kubuntu expert who could help me why my computer cannot read my usb flash disk 
[05:20] <ku_dude> anybody seeing my writings?
[05:20] <crescent> An error occurred while loading media:/sda:
[05:20] <crescent> The file or folder media:/sda does not exist.
[05:21] <ku_dude> I set my away ting.. but don't know how to set it back off.
[05:21] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i see what you're writing, but have no clue what you're talking about
[05:21] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: heheh.. it's ok.. just having problems with compiling a tar. file..
[05:21] <crescent> SOS:  my pc cant see the usb flash disk
[05:21] <ku_dude> don't know which gc to install.
[05:21] <crescent> SOS:  my pc cant see the usb flash disk
[05:21] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: what are you trying to compile?
[05:21] <crescent> SOS:  my pc cant see the usb flash disk
[05:22] <xtacocorex> crescent: what type of usb key is it?
[05:22] <crescent> it is an ibm flash disk
[05:22] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-4c
[05:23] <Hobbsee> ubotu msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:23] <ubotu> Hobbsee: okay
[05:23] <Hobbsee> :D
[05:23] <Hobbsee> !msttcorefonts
[05:23] <ubotu> from memory, msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:23] <xtacocorex> crescent: if you open up konqi and type media:/ in the address bar it doesn't show up?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> excellent
[05:23] <crescent> An error occurred while loading media:/sda:
[05:23] <crescent> Malformed URL .
[05:23] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: what version do you have currently?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> crescent: take the : out from the end?
[05:24] <Hobbsee> oh, that
[05:24] <xtacocorex> crescent: yeah
[05:24] <Hobbsee> crescent: try /media/sda1
[05:24] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: what version of what?
[05:24] <crescent> wait i will try
[05:24] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: sorry, compiler
[05:25] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: i installed so many different ones.
[05:25] <crescent> it says that folder /media/sda1 does not exist
[05:25] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: gcc, gcc3.3, 4.0
[05:25] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: also cpp.
it says that folder /media/sda1 does not exist
[05:26] <Hobbsee> crescent: try /media
[05:26] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i think i only have 3.3, i know that 4.0 wasn't supported by kde for a while until they released 4.0.1
[05:26] <crescent> AH yeah, the usbdisk is there
[05:26] <crescent> the file is there
[05:26] <crescent> thanks
[05:26] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: well I have 3.3.. and that thing didn;t work.
[05:27] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: weird
[05:27] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: do I need other libs.. with gcc too?
but why didnt the usbicon showed up in desktop, normally it does
[05:27] <Hobbsee> crescent: which kde are you using?
[05:27] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i don't think so, i would just make sure that you have build-essential installed
[05:28] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: but i could be wrong
[05:28] <crescent> newly installed breezy
[05:28] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: is build-essential a pacakge..
[05:28] <crescent> version
[05:28] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: yes
[05:28] <ku_dude> crescent: breezy is cool..
[05:28] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: ok..gonna install it.
[05:28] <crescent> yeah i think so..
[05:28] <crescent> its cool.
[05:29] <Hobbsee> crescent: seems like kde 3.4.3 doesnt actually mount the USB drives like it's supposed to
do you also encounter the same?
[05:29] <ku_dude> argggg!!.. I need to install all flipping packages..damn..
[05:29] <Hobbsee> crescent: no, but i'm using kde3.5 beta
[05:29] <ku_dude> I like RPM now.. atleast it install the dependies.
cool
[05:30] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: really, i used to run FC4 and i now prefer the .deb files
by the way do you have any idea on how to install my printer which is not included in linuxprinter.orf
by the way do you have any idea on how to install my printer which is not included in linuxprinter.org
[05:30] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: Well i'm kinda impatien.. I'm catching on..
[05:30] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: you relatively new to kubuntu?
[05:31] <ku_dude> just hate this dialup-thing..and also not knowing which package I need to perform some building..etc..
[05:31] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: very new..
by the way do you have any idea on how to install my printer which is not included in linuxprinter.org
[05:31] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: i was a redhat, and mandrake dude..
[05:31] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: oh, i didn't even bother trying to get my modem working on my laptop, i figured that i'm just going to have to afford high speed
[05:31] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: normally those distros will install all the essential packages for development.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> crescent: more info needed, but i'm not terribly good on printers
[05:32] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: hahah..I don't want to though.. atleast not for now..
[05:32] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: that is true, that was the one annoyance that i had when i switched over
[05:32] <Hobbsee> you've tried with the kde printing wizard?
[05:32] <crescent> yeah
but it didnt work
[05:32] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: i'm waiting till this voip ting becomes standard.. then I swithch to DSL + VoIP
[05:32] <ku_dude> :brb:
[05:33] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: ok
[05:33] <Hobbsee> crescent: i havent been able to make my own parallel printer work, you might want to ask the main channel instead
[05:33] <crescent> sharp said that they really dont support linux
[05:33] <crescent> i mean for that model
[05:33] <qatsi> hi all !...can anybody help me setting up my wireless conection ?
[05:33] <ku_dude> guys.. gonna try install this modem again.
[05:33] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: which me luck.
[05:33] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: ok, good luck
what do you mean ask main channel
[05:34] <crescent> u mean on kubuntu.org site?
[05:34] <qatsi> crescent ubuntu, not kubuntu, i think :)
[05:34] <Hobbsee> either
[05:34] <Hobbsee> or ask the people in this channel if they can help, not just me in particular
[05:35] <Hobbsee> !bot
[05:35] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to hobbsee? I think not. Bot, knot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[05:35] <ku_dude> damn!!! you guys are awesome.. my modem WORKS!!!
[05:35] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: thanks a million..
D yeahh... tnx for helpin me with my usb prob. ur my angel for the day
[05:35] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: thanks a billion
[05:35] <Hobbsee> crescent: no problems
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: no problems
[05:35] <ku_dude> jrjxx: thanks a trillion..
[05:35] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: you're welcome
[05:35] <ku_dude> you guys are really awesome. you all rock..
[05:36] <qatsi> i need help setting up wireless settings, some orientation would be great, like, comand name, then ill just man comand :)
[05:36] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: glad i could help
[05:36] <Hobbsee> qatsi: dont look at me lol...i dont have a wireless card in this laptop
[05:36] <ku_dude> now..I need to know how to make a universe, and multiverse ISO.. cd so I don't have to download..them when I need them.
[05:36] <qatsi> hobbsee, darn, you even know who im looking at :P
[05:36] <xtacocorex> qatsi: what type of wireless card do you have?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:37] <crescent> <to printer experts here> please help me, my printer is not included in linuxprinter,org, its actually printer scanner copier in one, sharp ar 123e
[05:37] <qatsi> xtacocorex the card is working fine, i just need to set up ssid and passwords and that stuff
[05:37] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i couldn't help you with that, but i guess just download all the files from the repos off the web
[05:37] <qatsi> xtacocorex im using a broadcom wireless, with ndiswrapper driver
[05:37] <crescent> <to printer experts here> please help me, my printer is not included in linuxprinter,org, its actually printer scanner copier in one, sharp ar 123e
[05:37] <jsubl2> crescent: check your manual and see if it does any hp emulation.. you might be able to use instructions for one of those
 manual of printer? oh, its gone... its a year old printer
[05:38] <xtacocorex> qatsi: are you running kwifimanager?
[05:38] <qatsi> xtacocorex yep\
 what is hp emulation?
[05:39] <mcscruff> does anyone here use superkaramba?
[05:39] <xtacocorex> qatsi: have you tried the configuration under the settings menu?
[05:39] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: how big do you think the internet repository is.
[05:40] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: well, it's the same place apt-get gets the stuff, so whatever the number of files it has * each of their file sizes, so it could be huge
[05:40] <qatsi> xtacocorex uhmm, i have configured everything in there, but no luck
[05:41] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: wierd, my only problem with the config stuff is having it recognize my schools wireless when i'm on campus
[05:41] <xtacocorex> wait
[05:41] <xtacocorex> that went to the wrong person
[05:41] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: heheh!
[05:41] <qatsi> xtacocorex yep, that was for me :p
[05:42] <xtacocorex> qatsi: i wouldn't know what to tell you
[05:42] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: well..I guess i'm gonna have to download the entire repo'..or bring my pc to work when I need to do major updates..
[05:42] <qatsi> xtacocorex uhmm, i can detect networks, i can even configure with it, but when  i load the config...it dosnt work...
[05:42] <ku_dude> anyways.. going home now.. I have a headache.
[05:42] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: probably not a bad idea, the taking to work that is
[05:42] <ku_dude> Good night all..
[05:42] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: good night
[05:42] <ku_dude> thanks again for your help.
[05:43] <sampan> i really want to kill the bouncing cursors in kubuntu -- i thought i'd turned them off and they won't go away :X
[05:43] <qatsi> xtacocorex well, thanx anyway :)
[05:43] <xtacocorex> qatsi: this is an intriguing problem
[05:43] <qatsi> can anybody please help me with KWiFiManager ????? 
[05:44] <qatsi> xtacocorex yep, strange...and i dont know the comands to manually configure the network :p
[05:44] <xtacocorex> qatsi: i don't know them either
[05:45] <xtacocorex> qatsi: sorry that i couldn't be of more help
[05:45] <qatsi> xtacocorex no porblem :p thanx anyway :)
[05:46] <qatsi> does anybody knows the commands for setting up SSID in wireless networks ??? plx ??
[05:47] <qatsi> ahhhhhhhhhhhh, nobody helping now :p
[05:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:47] <xtacocorex> qatsi: i did google this up quick: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/wmp11-linux.htm
[05:47] <Hobbsee> not really that many people here
[05:47] <qatsi> xtacocorex thanx :)
[05:48] <qatsi> Hobbsee you have experience :P i thought you know the answer  :( jejeje
[05:48] <Hobbsee> yeah, well send me a wireless card and then maybe i'll figure out how to use it :P
[05:48] <Hobbsee> might cost a fair bit for shipping though lol
[05:49] <qatsi> Hobbsee maybe ill ship a Router too :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> ooh nice
[05:49] <Hobbsee> already got a router though
[05:49] <Hobbsee> just not a wireless one
[05:49] <qatsi> hobbsee my point :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> ok, send me one of them then lol
[05:51] <xtacocorex> qatsi: how did that link work out for you?
[05:52] <qatsi> xtacocorex not so good, managed to set up ssid and password, but im missing something :S so im googling arround 
[05:52] <qatsi> xtacocorex ahh, found a ubuntu page :) ejejeje thanx btw for the page you sent
[05:52] <xtacocorex> qatsi: np
[05:53] <_john> something i must say:  is anyone else totally blown away by teh great KDE support in Breezy?
[05:53] <_john> i think its amazing
[05:54] <_john> I found amazing amounts of kde apps in the repos
[05:55] <Hobbsee> away...
[05:56] <sampan> nice pun john -- blown away ... by breezy
[05:57] <xtacocorex> while i'm here, does anyone else have problems with speed in kopete
[05:59] <mcscruff> i cant recieve files on msn
[05:59] <mcscruff> but thats about it
[05:59] <mcscruff> i find gaim more reliable
[05:59] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i just have problems with it loading a chat window, totally bogs the system down
[06:00] <mcscruff> not had that
[06:00] <petros> hi
[06:00] <mcscruff> try gaim or even amsn
[06:00] <petros> which package do i have to install for the X headers?
[06:00] <mcscruff> lo petos
[06:00] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i've been running gaim for since i got kubuntu about 3 months ago
[06:01] <mcscruff> the  only thing i dont like about gaim is that i cant find an amarok script for it
[06:01] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i just used to use kopete when i ran fc4, so i thought i'd try it, but didn't like it
[06:01] <petros> can not finde any dev package for xorg
[06:01] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: that would be nice to have, but i'm not that type of programmer
[06:01] <mcscruff> i have never had a problem like that with kopete
[06:02] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i'll just have to wait for a newer version to test
[06:02] <mcscruff> i lvoe kopete to bits but i hate the cant recieve msn files
[06:02] <mcscruff> *love
[06:02] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i can't do any file transfers anyway, so i gave up on that
[06:02] <mcscruff> lol
[06:03] <qatsi> ohhh my !!! im wireless now !!!!.....if anyones intrested in knowing how :) check this...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[06:03] <xtacocorex> qatsi: congrats
[06:03] <qatsi> xtacocorex thanx :) long live wireless tech :)
[06:04] <mcscruff> i always had 1 prob with wireless, getting the key to work, worked fine if ther ewas no key
[06:04] <xtacocorex> qatsi: yes, it is great
[06:05] <mcscruff> has anyone tested mandriva 2006?
[06:07] <xskyther> halo
[06:07] <mcscruff> i love halo
[06:07] <mcscruff> great game
[06:07] <xskyther> haloooooo bosss ada orang kagak
[06:07] <KSL> yang bener
[06:08] <KSL> eker!
[06:08] <labkom_> apane
[06:08] <xskyther> oh
[06:09] <KSL> teguh kw lg ngopo
[06:09] <satafterh> are there 3d and opengl games for linux, similar to doom, halflife
[06:09] <KSL> turu?
[06:10] <regeya> well, satafterh, there's doom
[06:10] <regeya> heh
[06:10] <xskyther> hei boss ayo semangat
[06:10] <satafterh> #regeya - really, doom
[06:10] <regeya> there are several, satafterh, but not being much of a gamer myself these days, I dunno.
[06:10] <labkom_ss> rapopo
[06:11] <regeya> shoot, I used to dm on quake2 on my linux box back in college; couldn't stand to do it under windows on the same hardware 'coz it sucked.
[06:11] <labkom_> op oooooooooooooooo
[06:11] <xskyther> fifa la dida linuxer mipa okeyyyyyyyy
[06:11] <apokryphos> this is an English only channel
[06:11] <regeya> lo siento no comprendo
[06:11] <satafterh> not much of a gamer either, but my son on the other hand
[06:12] <apokryphos> regeya, satafterh: English only in here
[06:12] <sen> ;p
[06:12] <regeya> apokryphos: sorry, I'm an american.
[06:12] <_labkom> hidup mahasiswaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:12] <sen> ok
[06:12] <apokryphos> _labkom_: last warning
[06:13] <regeya> I bet you'll kick out the Welshmen next
[06:13] <KSL> Hidup!!!!
[06:13] <satafterh> #apokryphos- wasnt aware i was typing another language
[06:13] <xskyther> ok apane
[06:13] <apokryphos> regeya: I couldn't care less what you are; only what you're speaking in the chan
[06:13] <xskyther> gdjgdd dguhd gd6e99yd yu8dd
[06:13] <satafterh> apokryphos- maybe just bad spelling
[06:14] <regeya> no joke, why are you picking on satafterh, apokryphos?  I understand you going after me with my smart ass "I'm sorry, I don't understand" comment in spanish...ONE LINE of it, but it was in spanish, but c'mon.
[06:15] <apokryphos> regeya: first comment I saw -- surprise, non-English. Not "picking" on anyone, obviously.
[06:15] <satafterh> I only speak english lol
[06:15] <apokryphos> fine and dandy
[06:15] <regeya> apokryphos: I challenge you to show me a line where satafterh said something in another language.
[06:15] <qatsi> uhmm, i hate this fights about lenguages.....
[06:16] <regeya> let's all speak esperanto from now on.
[06:16] <satafterh> took french in school but failed, lol
[06:16] <regeya> and now I take my leave as the word 'esperanto' is not, in fact, english.
[06:16] <apokryphos> hm, correction; shoulda been to xskyther, who is gone now anyhow
[06:16] <qatsi> esperanto is actually a word in englis, regeya
[06:16] <qatsi> english*
[06:16] <apokryphos> satafterh: join the crew
[06:18] <satafterh> i wish i really could speak another language, i would make more $$$$$$$$
[06:19] <apokryphos> satafterh: I wish my Greek wasn't degenerating at the rate it is :|
[06:19] <qatsi> statfternh where are you from ?
[06:19] <qatsi> apokryphos: thanx a lot man :p im so used to winodws that i dont even know how to use Kopete hehehe
[06:20] <satafterh> canada, there are mostly english and french in my area but you can find many languages here
[06:20] <satafterh> #apokryphos where are you
[06:20] <apokryphos> London 8)
[06:21] <regeya> and I felt bad for going on with my ot language talk.  and now I no longer feel bad for the OT.
[06:21] <satafterh> #apokryphos are you really??
[06:21] <apokryphos> yup, but I'm Greek -- been here just over 11 years now
[06:23] <regeya> 1.5 minutes of non-english, 10 minutes of offtopic...meh, I'm going to bed.
[06:23] <apokryphos> it's 5:30 here -- I should be falling asleep, but I'm awake as a... bird
[06:23] <qatsi> ay a la verch, a ver si se enchilan por no hablar en ingles :p
[06:23] <satafterh> #apokryphos - there are a few greeks in the town live in, good people
[06:24] <apokryphos> indeed; wildly different culture to here :D
[06:24] <satafterh> wel i am off to bed, later all
[06:24] <qatsi> satafterh: see ya
[06:24] <apokryphos> 'night
[06:24] <satafterh> i"ll be back lol
[06:24] <satafterh> later
[06:44] <Evera> Hello
[06:44] <Milktea> I'm having trouble installing ATI drivers
[06:44] <Milktea> on Hoary
[06:44] <xtacocorex> Milktea: the ones for opengl?
[06:44] <Milktea> Yeah, basically
[06:44] <Milktea> I tried running World of Warcraft under Wine with -opengl
[06:45] <Milktea> and it has a really bad framerate
[06:45] <Milktea> someone told me to get the ATI drivers, since I use an ATI card
[06:45] <Milktea> and I was using graphical defaults
[06:45] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i had installed them from synaptic, but they made it worse than the default that was installed with the os
[06:45] <Milktea> oh
[06:45] <Milktea> Well
[06:45] <Milktea> I couldn't find it with synaptic
[06:45] <Milktea> I tried going to the ATI site
[06:45] <Milktea> but all they had was an .rpm
[06:46] <Milktea> and i alien'd it to.deb
[06:46] <Milktea> but I got errors when I tried to install it
[06:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i think you have to add a repository to sources.list
[06:46] <Milktea> oh
[06:46] <Milktea> someone told me to add multiverse
[06:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: but i can't remember which one
[06:46] <Milktea> but it was already on there
[06:46] <Milktea> aw
[06:46] <Milktea> D=
[06:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: do you have universe and restricted also?
[06:47] <Milktea> yeah
[06:47] <Milktea> I'm using the one from ubuntuguide.org
[06:47] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i'm going to check what i have
[06:47] <Milktea> yay, thanks
[06:49] <xtacocorex> Milktea: are you running xfree86 or xorg? i'm assuming xorg
[06:50] <xtacocorex> Milktea: search synaptic for fglrx
[06:50] <Milktea> I think its xorg
[06:50] <Milktea> ok
[06:51] <Milktea> I have fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx installed
[06:51] <Milktea> available ones are
[06:51] <Milktea> fglrx-6-8-0 fglrx-kernel-source xfree86-driver-fglrx xfree86-driver-fglrx-dev xorg-driver-fglrx-dev (plus the ones I have installed)
[06:52] <xtacocorex> that's what i have listed too
[06:53] <Milktea> so
[06:53] <Milktea> what do I do
[06:53] <Milktea> D=
[06:53] <xtacocorex> i'm trying to think
[06:53] <xtacocorex> i thought i saw something in the forums
[06:53] <xtacocorex> so i'm checking there
[06:53] <Milktea> oh
[06:53] <Milktea> thanks
[06:55] <blackflag> Hello all :-)
[06:55] <blackflag> where can I get w32codecs and libdvdcss?
[06:56] <blackflag> for breezy?
[06:56] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[06:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[06:57] <xtacocorex> Milktea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=ATI+Driver+HowTo
[06:58] <xtacocorex> Milktea: crap, that's for breezy
[06:58] <Milktea> thanks
[06:58] <Milktea> oh
[06:58] <xtacocorex> Milktea: will find the right one
[06:58] <Milktea> Thanks
[06:58] <Milktea> the thing is
[06:59] <Milktea> I'm running WoW right now
[06:59] <Milktea> but there's about 4 second intervals between frames
[07:00] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i don't play games on linux yet, i'm waiting to get cedega when i get a better computer, but i'm assuming that what you said is bad
[07:00] <Milktea> hm
[07:00] <Milktea> imagine
[07:00] <Milktea> moving your mouse
[07:00] <Milktea> and waiting for the moniter to update it every 4 seconds
[07:01] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it's been a long night, so yeah, i had that problem yesterday trying to make a movie from output for a program for my computational fluid dynamics class
[07:02] <blackflag> Okay, thanks , that works!
[07:02] <xtacocorex> Milktea: if you want to know how to lock up linux...
[07:02] <Milktea> lol
[07:07] <_lEo_> hi all
[07:07] <Milktea> hi
[07:07] <xtacocorex> Milktea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76057&highlight=hoary+ati
[07:08] <_lEo_> does anyone know if you can boot off an ISO image from the harddrive ?
[07:08] <_lEo_> I am running mandriva and wanna try the kubuntu live cd
[07:08] <Milktea> thanks
[07:08] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i think that should work
[07:08] <_lEo_> but the my cd-burner is not working right now
[07:08] <xtacocorex> i'm actually going to try it too
[07:08] <Milktea> yay
[07:09] <Milktea> ima try it
[07:09] <Milktea> =D
[07:09] <xtacocorex> my current screensaver is opengl and the previous times i've done the driver it made it worse
[07:09] <_lEo_> i downloaded the iso and I'd like to add an entry for the iso in grub, I know it is doable
[07:09] <xtacocorex> so hopefully this works
[07:09] <Milktea> when it says gedit i assume i type nano -w right
[07:10] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: i don't think that's doable from grub
[07:10] <_lEo_> but I can't get to the right howto
[07:10] <xtacocorex> Milktea: yes, nano will work
[07:10] <_lEo_> arg, and from lilo ?
[07:10] <sampan> i get a KDE su error
[07:10] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: i don't use lilo
[07:10] <sampan> anyone know why i can't adjust the time/date on breezy?
[07:11] <sampan> from the clock applet or from the system settings --> date & time (even trying administrator mode)
[07:11] <_lEo_> ok, thanks xtacocorex!
[07:11] <sampan> both return that breaking glass sound with "su error"
[07:11] <_lEo_> i'll try to get the burner fixed
[07:11] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: sorry i couldn't help you more
[07:11] <_lEo_> cheers!
[07:11] <_lEo_> please, I really appreciate it!
[07:12] <Evera> ehehe
[07:12] <Evera> oops
[07:12] <Milktea> I restarted X
[07:12] <Milktea> and lost the page
[07:12] <Milktea> could you link it again? ^^;;
[07:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76057&highlight=hoary+ati
[07:12] <Milktea> thanks
[07:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: np
[07:13] <Milktea> woot
[07:13] <Milktea> ima try it now
[07:13] <xtacocorex> Milktea: good luck
[07:13] <Milktea> thanks
[07:13] <Milktea> =D
[07:13] <Milktea> WLoginn scrreen works
[07:13] <Milktea> beettre  frammeraate but sttilll prettyy bad
[07:13] <xtacocorex> hmm
[07:13] <Milktea> aand llags so i  typee like this  O_o
[07:14] <xtacocorex> did you try running glxgears from the command line to see a fps?
[07:14] <_lEo_> gotto go to sleep, thanks guys/gals!
[07:14] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: good night
[07:14] <_lEo_> 'night xtacocorex!
[07:14] <Milktea> i cant type in my passs cuz i type funny
[07:14] <Milktea> i see the gears  for glxgears
[07:14] <Milktea> what ddo they ddo
[07:15] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it should do a frame rate test
[07:15] <xtacocorex> if you ran it from konsole, it should output data
[07:15] <Milktea> i see gears
[07:15] <Milktea> And the sound is also screwed up
[07:15] <Milktea> hmm
[07:16] <xtacocorex> otherwise you have to add this insanely long option to the call
[07:16] <xtacocorex> damn
[07:16] <Milktea> IIt oppenedd a window
[07:16] <xtacocorex> did you modify the xorg.conf file?
[07:16] <Milktea> annd shhows  3 gearrs
[07:16] <Milktea> yeaah
[07:16] <xtacocorex> wait, yeah
[07:16] <xtacocorex> close the gear window and see what it says
[07:17] <xtacocorex> i'm gonna try restarting x
[07:17] <xtacocorex> brb
[07:17] <Milktea> well it's recording
[07:17] <Milktea> but it's waayy weirdd
[07:17] <Milktea> 2000+ to 100+ fps
[07:18] <xtacocorex> that's odd, but then again, i don't know what to expect
[07:18] <xtacocorex> brb
[07:22] <Evera> uh
[07:23] <Evera> i tried running WoW again
[07:23] <Evera> and after it "loaded" the map
[07:23] <Evera> my comp froze
[07:23] <Evera> D=
[07:24] <Milktea> ima try wine
[07:24] <Milktea> it's faster in wine
[07:24] <Milktea> o-o
[07:24] <Milktea> brb
[07:24] <Milktea> BAJEEZNITS
[07:24] <Milktea> it works
[07:24] <Milktea> I love you all
[07:24] <Milktea> except
[07:24] <Milktea> there is no sound
[07:24] <Milktea> which is sad
[07:24] <Milktea> but whatever
[07:24] <Milktea> ohno
[07:25] <Milktea> i can't click stuff
[07:25] <Milktea> stuff isn't clickable
[07:25] <Milktea> agh
[07:25] <apokryphos> !enter
[07:25] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:27] <pietro> hej
[07:29] <Milktea> uh
[07:29] <Milktea> it worked for a lil bit
[07:30] <Milktea> but then my comp froze again
[07:30] <Milktea> feedback?
[07:30] <blackflag> I have aprobelm with kmail and pgp
[07:31] <blackflag> when I use gpgme, it says me it gpgme is not compiled with support for openpgp
[07:31] <blackflag> and so I can not use pgp in kmail
[07:32] <blackflag> Waht is wrong with that?
[07:32] <blackflag> I reinstall gpgme with no succsess
[07:32] <blackflag> has someone an idea?
[07:32] <blackflag> is something missing?
[07:33] <apokryphos> blackflag: /topic
[07:33] <blackflag> ?
[07:34] <apokryphos> check the channel topic
[07:34] <MachineScrew> cool hal is soon to be fixed :)
[07:35] <MachineScrew> see I got the topic
[07:35] <MachineScrew> downloading downloading downloading.....
[07:37] <MachineScrew> cool hal is soon to be fixed :)
[07:37] <MachineScrew> see I got the topic
[07:37] <apokryphos> sampan: well, what exactly are you trying?
[07:37] <MachineScrew> downloading downloading downloading.....
[07:37] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: is there a reason for why you're now flooding? :/
[07:37] <apokryphos> sampan: right-click on clock -> adjust date-time ?
[07:37] <sampan> apokryphos  i've tried setting it via system settings --> time & date ... i've tried setting it via right-clicking on the clock and then configure time/date and i've even tried setting it via cli
[07:38] <apokryphos> and what's the error?
[07:38] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: no those are the things I wanted to say but i relized I didn't identify sory
[07:38] <xtacocorex> Milktea: yeah, i totally fubared my system with the opengl stuff
[07:38] <Milktea> oh
[07:38] <Milktea> What happened to it?
[07:38] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: they all came through to the channel... twice.
[07:38] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: nm
[07:38] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: oh  again sorry
[07:38] <xtacocorex> Milktea: wouldn't even load the kde, just booted to the command line
[07:39] <sampan> apokryphos  after the first time setting via right-click configure -- it gave me a "KDE su error" -- and then i couldn't do ANY sudo commands -- my monitor went blank for a while, came back, and every time i did a sudo (say with apt-get) i got: sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[07:39] <Milktea> oh
[07:39] <Milktea> that sucks
[07:39] <Milktea> Well
[07:39] <Milktea> I got it to work
[07:39] <Milktea> using wine
[07:39] <Milktea> wine WoW.exe -opengl
[07:39] <Milktea> er
[07:39] <apokryphos> !enter
[07:39] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:39] <Milktea> $ wine WoW.exe -opengl
[07:39] <Milktea> Sorry
[07:39] <xtacocorex> Milktea: ok, good luck, sorry that i couldn't help out more
[07:39] <sampan> now, i can right-click it, and actually configure and set it to PDT in the GUI, but the clock still says 05:36 -- which is UTC
[07:39] <MachineScrew> Milktea: what is WoW ?
[07:39] <apokryphos> sampan: sudo doesn't work? That's not an adjusting time/date problem, that's a real sudo problem
[07:40] <Milktea> xtacocorex thanks. Does anyone know why World of Warcraft crashes after a few minutes and I can't click on anything?
[07:40] <Milktea> MachineScrew: World of Warcraft
[07:40] <Milktea> I'm using wine btw
[07:40] <MachineScrew> Milktea: ya ok
[07:40] <sampan> apokryphos  well i logged out, got a bunch of sigfaults, rebooted, then now i -CAN- change it via GUI, but the clock still shows UTC
[07:40] <MachineScrew> Milktea: ya i saw why not cdegia ?
[07:41] <Milktea> no money
[07:41] <Milktea> T_T
[07:41] <MachineScrew> Milktea: Pirate lol
[07:41] <sampan> it's hilarious -- in the GUI the clock changes -- the hands move from 05:41 to 22:41 -- but on the desktop, it's still 05:41
[07:41] <Milktea> I tried
[07:41] <MachineScrew> Milktea: no I am only kidding
[07:41] <apokryphos> sampan: manually edit /etc/default/rcS then to tell it you don't want UTC
[07:41] <Milktea> ok
[07:41] <MachineScrew> Milktea: what whent  wrong
[07:42] <MachineScrew> Milktea: the pirate thing
[07:42] <Milktea> slow FPS
[07:42] <Milktea> and freezes after a while
[07:42] <Milktea> can't even load map
[07:42] <Milktea> using wine, it's a normal FPS
[07:42] <MachineScrew> damn that sucks
[07:42] <Milktea> and I could load the map
[07:42] <Milktea> but I can't click on stuff
[07:42] <Milktea> sound is not ther
[07:42] <MachineScrew> have you gotten hit with that pluage
[07:42] <Milktea> and it freezes after a while
[07:42] <Milktea> what pluage?
[07:42] <MachineScrew> in wow
[07:43] <sampan> apokryphos should i log out/restart to reload that file?
[07:43] <Milktea> ?
[07:43] <Milktea> Which plague?
[07:43] <MachineScrew> Milktea: the most recent one 
[07:43] <dicrapio> need some help duilding kde packages, 
[07:43] <Milktea> ?
[07:43] <sampan> was easy to switch the UTC=yes to UTC=no ... but i assume i need to reload it somehow
[07:43] <Milktea> Do you mean patch?
[07:43] <apokryphos> sampan: save and close; changes may only take affect after reboot; I don't know the command to reset time unfortunately
[07:43] <MachineScrew> Milktea: is some virus that is infecting every one 
[07:44] <sampan> that's okay :)  i don't mind a reboot here and there to get it going right
[07:44] <Milktea> oh
[07:44] <Milktea> no
[07:44] <MachineScrew> Milktea: no the "in" the game it self
[07:44] <sampan> brb
[07:44] <MachineScrew> ok
[07:44] <MachineScrew> i don't play it but I have heard about it 3 times
[07:44] <Milktea> oh
[07:44] <Milktea> No
[07:45] <MachineScrew> that and people selling stuff on ebay from wow
[07:46] <aaz> hey all i tested mandriva and man it is sloow
[07:46] <aaz> kubuntu is faster i suppose
[07:46] <dicrapio> how can i fix this when cofiguring a kde pkg? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:47] <aaz> paste the whole message here
[07:48] <dicrapio> thats it
[07:48] <aaz> a package is missing
[07:48] <dicrapio> thas all it says
[07:48] <dicrapio> it configures fine until it hits that line
[07:48] <aaz> what were you trying to do
[07:48] <sampan> apokryphos  :(
[07:48] <aaz> whats that
[07:48] <chavo> your missing x include files
[07:48] <dicrapio> build diskfree-1.5
[07:49] <dicrapio> chavo: yup i think thas the prob
[07:49] <chavo> x11proto-core-dev is the name I think
[07:49] <aaz> my question : is kubuntu faster than mandriva
[07:49] <sampan> same problem ... still won't let me change the time.  i can right click, adjust date/time ... it says Timezone is UTC, but i can use the menu to change it to America/LosAngeles, hit "apply" and "ok" -- clock stays the same and if i open up the adjust dialog again, it's back to UTC 
[07:49] <dicrapio> let me check
[07:51] <dicrapio> no pkgs by that name
[07:51] <dicrapio> ho wait, 
[07:52] <dicrapio> yup found it
[07:54] <mekgp> hiya hobbsee!
[07:54] <Hobbsee> hey mekgp 
[07:55] <dicrapio> chavo: is getting the error after installing that pkg
[07:55] <sampan> i suppose i can just swap out to the old hoary HD ... :X  i dunno why a simple clock should be so obstinate
[07:55] <Hobbsee> sampan: what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <chavo> dicrapio, same error?
[07:55] <Hobbsee> clock shouldnt be that hard to figure out
[07:55] <dicrapio> yup
[07:55] <sampan> hobbsee  just trying to set my clock to my time zone
[07:55] <sampan> yeah you would think it should be easy
[07:55] <mekgp> have you heard any issues with power management and ati cards in breezy mentioned hobbsee??
[07:56] <chavo> hold on I had the same problem today, let me see what I installed
[07:56] <Hobbsee> sampan: you've tried in system settings, presumably?
[07:56] <dicrapio> im doing just ./configure
[07:56] <chavo> dicrapio, try x-window-system-dev
[07:56] <sampan> hobbsee, yes ... and by right clicking the clock and doing 'adjust time and date' 
[07:56] <dicrapio> k
[07:57] <Hobbsee> mekgp: um...power management's supposed to be better in breezy, I dont really read much about ati cards
[07:57] <chavo> I had all of the x includes installed, but updating to breezy removed them
[07:57] <Hobbsee> mekgp: probably check on ubuntuforums and see if anyone's mentioned it
[07:57] <sampan> the GUI comes up, saying my timezone is UTC -- i use the drop down tab below that to change it to America/LosAngeles -- hit "apply", "okay" -- the line changes to PDT, but the clock doesn't
[07:57] <chavo> so I went to do my KDE build today and it stopped
[07:58] <sampan> and if i re-open the GUI (via sys settings or right click on the clock) it's set right back to UTC
[07:58] <Hobbsee> sampan:  that's odd
[07:58] <sampan> indeed
[07:58] <Hobbsee> is the locale correct in system settings?
[07:58] <sampan> it's a brand new hd with a fresh install of breezy
[07:59] <Hobbsee> ooh i've just found out where the keyboard shortcuts listing is, i could never find that before
[07:59] <chavo> Hobbsee, they hid it pretty good huh?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> chavo: that they did, i'm so glad kcontrol was left in there!  i've been using that instead most of the time
[08:00] <Jeevan> i'm now off on my hoary to breezy upgrade adventure ...
[08:00] <Jeevan> wish me luck ;)
[08:00] <Hobbsee> Jeevan: fun...good luck!
[08:00] <sampan> hobbsee, well the locale in sys settings --regional was set to 'default', not to north america, but even after changing it to NA, the problem persists
[08:00] <Jeevan> thanks :)
[08:01] <dicrapio> chavo: well that one did it, but now i get this one checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:01] <chavo> once you've used kcontrol a couple of times it's easy to find what you need
[08:01] <Hobbsee> chavo: exactly
[08:01] <dicrapio> i thought installing the build-essential pkg would of taken care of this?
[08:01] <chavo> dicrapio, libqt3-mt-dev
[08:01] <Hobbsee> sampan: you presumably set it to UTC during the install accidently
[08:02] <dicrapio> :)
[08:02] <sampan> perhaps, but there really should be a way to change it post-install
[08:02] <chavo> dicrapio, no it doesn't install a lot of libraries, just essential stuff
[08:02] <Hobbsee> sampan: i'm sure there is, we've just got to find it lol
[08:02] <sampan> well i think we HAVE found it, but it's quite badly broken
[08:02] <dicrapio> ah
[08:02] <sampan> system settings -- date & time really should do the trick
[08:04] <dicrapio> does adept remove the pkgs after they r installed?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> dicrapio: not unless you set it to, i recall
[08:05] <chavo> dicrapio, well it can cache them, I can't remember what the default is
[08:05] <Hobbsee> http://www.mepis.org/node/7678 solution is third from the bottom, or so
[08:05] <Hobbsee> try it, anyway
[08:05] <Hobbsee> chavo: default is that the packages stay
[08:06] <dicrapio> where r the options?
[08:07] <Hobbsee> good question, where'd they go?
[08:07] <dicrapio> oh man, well that went through chavo, then this came checking for KDE... configure: error:
[08:07] <dicrapio> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[08:08] <chavo> dicrapio, try this kdelibs4-dev
[08:08] <Hobbsee> dicrapio: good question, maybe i was thinking of synaptic
[08:08] <chavo> what are you trying to build?
[08:09] <chavo> Hobbsee, yeah you can configure apt from synaptic
[08:09] <Hobbsee> sampan: did you see the link above?  http://www.mepis.org/node/7678 3rd or 4th from the bottom
[08:09] <Hobbsee> chavo: that was probably what i saw then
[08:09] <dicrapio> i know, i keep compoaring it to synaptic and realize how good synaptic is
[08:09] <sampan> hobbsee, yes, i'm working through the steps
[08:09] <dicrapio> i guess adept is a good first attempt tho
[08:09] <Hobbsee> sampan: cool :)
[08:10] <Hobbsee> dicrapio: it's certainly better than kynaptic :P
[08:10] <dicrapio> im trying to build diskfree
[08:10] <dicrapio> hell yeah
[08:10] <chavo> you might need kdebase-dev also
[08:11] <dicrapio> also if this works i want to biuild crystal (win deco) and smoothblend (win deco)
[08:11] <dicrapio> k
[08:11] <kaan> is there a way to completely undo a make install?
[08:12] <chavo> kaan, make uninstall
[08:12] <chavo> dicrapio, those are nice windecos
[08:12] <kaan> crap, i tried that and it didn't work
[08:12] <kaan> anything more serious?
[08:13] <dicrapio> i know, they r essential whenever i install any new system based on kde
[08:13] <chavo> kaan, not sure what you mean by that
[08:13] <sampan> hobbsee, again you've done the trick :)  i dunno how that got messed up -- but that did in fact solve it
[08:13] <dicrapio> and diskfree is a kicker applet to display info about partitions and drives, is really nice
[08:14] <kaan> well, i did a make install on a program directory that was compiled on another setup and the program didn't work
[08:14] <Hobbsee> sampan: quick google will solve most things, i'm glad it worked :)
[08:14] <kaan> so i tried to get rid of it, then build it right and install it but it still doesn't work
[08:14] <dicrapio> which reminds me, after make, i should do checkinstall?
[08:14] <sampan> hobbsee, well -- maybe i got lazy ... i had such an overwhelmingly positive experience with hoary that i just assumed there wouldn't be any snags with breezy 
[08:14] <chavo> kaan, well you can do make distclean, that will put it back to it's original state
[08:15] <sampan> perhaps not a good assumption :X
[08:15] <chavo> kaan, then you can rerun configure, etc.
[08:15] <kaan> well i redownloaded the source and stuff already
[08:15] <kaan> will that also remove stuff it installed?
[08:15] <dicrapio> sweet, it finally made it through the config
[08:15] <chavo> kaan, if you configure it the same way, yes
[08:17] <Hobbsee> lol sampan
[08:17] <Hobbsee> i was merely saying how i found the answer
[08:17] <kaan> ok, i'll try that
[08:18] <sampan> hobbsee  i know -- i usually google too, but the help chans here on freenode induce some laziness since you all do such a good job helping newbs like myself
[08:19] <chx> I have a problem with Kubuntu. when I type eject /media/usbdisk , the USB pen remains plugged. I'd expect a something to hand over the usb  pen :D
[08:19] <sampan> induces*  (sheesh i can't type)
[08:20] <kaan> chavo: lol, took a closer look and it seems that wasn't the problem at all, lol
[08:20] <kaan> you get much more helpful error messages when you run things from the command line
[08:21] <sampan> brb
[08:21] <Hobbsee> lol
[08:24] <dicrapio> chavo: the pkg built, i used checkinstall to make it and got the deb file but after installing i cant c it from the add applet options in the kicker, any thoughts?
[08:25] <chavo> dicrapio, that's wierd I don't know what could be wrong. try restarting kicker
[08:25] <chavo> dcopquit kicker && kicker
[08:26] <dicrapio> i logged in and out, but i did ./configure and make then checkinstall
[08:26] <dicrapio> should i had doen ./configure --prefix=?
[08:29] <Hobbsee> what's dcopquit do?
[08:29] <chavo> dicrapio, yes
[08:29] <chavo> prefix /usr
[08:29] <Hobbsee> i usually use xkill, or top command, and kill it form there
[08:29] <dicrapio> hmm, i just looked at the installed files in synaptic and it placed everything on /usr/local
[08:30] <chavo> Hobbsee, not sure exactly but I got it from the guys in #kde
[08:30] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:30] <dicrapio> ah, getting closer and closer
[08:30] <chavo> dicrapio, yeah /usr/local is default for configure
[08:30] <dicrapio> btw, checkinstall is a nice utility
[08:30] <chavo> do --prefix /usr and it should work
[08:31] <chavo> dicrapio, did you notice there's a new release of crystal windeco today?
[08:31] <dicrapio> which?
[08:32] <dicrapio> let me check cause i just downloaded this one
[08:32] <dicrapio> 0.9.5?
[08:32] <chavo> that's probably it 0.9.5
[08:32] <chavo> just looking at kde-look.org
[08:33] <dicrapio> yaay it worked
[08:33] <dicrapio> diskfree is here to stay :)
[08:33] <dicrapio> thx for the help
[08:42] <crescent> good afternoon..............
[08:42] <crescent> good day!
[08:49] <chx> is there an midnight commander/emelFM alike on Kubuntu?
[08:51] <chx> Krusader?
[08:53] <fatejudger> I'm having a little bit of trouble with the clock in Kubuntu
[08:53] <fatejudger> I told it to use local time instead of GMT
[08:54] <fatejudger> so that it would work with Windows
[08:54] <fatejudger> but now it doesn't show the right time
[08:54] <fatejudger> how do I change that?
[08:54] <bsd3> hi
[09:14] <sampan> fatejudger  i -just- had that same problem
[09:15] <sampan> lemme find the link
[09:15] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, but the pc cant detect the harddisk
[09:15] <sampan> http://www.mepis.org/node/7678    <--- the solution is the post titled Timezone Problem Fix about 3 or 4 posts down 
[09:16] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:19] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:20] <roguejedix> Hello. Could anyone tell me why my mouse wheel works so slowly? I have to rotate it three full cycles before it moves anywhere
[09:20] <fatejudger> sampan: thanks, it worked
[09:20] <sampan> :) yw -- someone here helped me with it, so figured i should pass along the joy 
[09:23] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:30] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:36] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:37] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant mount the other harddisk
[09:37] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant mount the other harddisk
[09:37] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant mount the other harddisk pleeeeeeeeeeease
[09:38] <crescent> ping
[09:38] <crimsun> dude, stop flooding
[09:38] <crescent> sorry
[09:38] <crescent> im not a dude... dudette
[09:39] <crimsun> gender is irrelevant.
[09:39] <crescent> the point is... dont call me dude
[09:40] <crimsun> then stop flooding.
[09:40] <crimsun> and if you want help, try to provide more information
[09:40] <crimsun> we have no idea what you're trying to do
[09:40] <crescent> i said im sorry
[09:40] <crimsun> flailing your arms and screaming doesn't resolve anything
[09:40] <crescent> why are you so rude
[09:41] <crimsun> would you like to provide more context for your problem?
[09:43] <crescent> yeah... i dunno how to mount the other hard disk
[09:44] <crimsun> really need more context, and I presume you're trying to mount a partition (you don't mount an entire HD).
[09:44] <crimsun> e.g., is the partition from Win9x? 2k? XP? BSD? Linux? ...
[09:45] <JoHn123> hi
[09:56] <crescent> linux
[09:56] <delphiuk> i thought they had auto mounting in breezy now?
[09:56] <crescent> kubuntu
[09:57] <crimsun> crescent: so you're trying to mount a Linux partition?
[09:57] <crimsun> crescent: what's the partition?
[09:57] <crescent> ext3
[09:58] <crescent> yeah i remove the other hard disk of another computer coz i need files from it
[09:59] <crimsun> crescent: do you know which specific partition it is, like /dev/hdb2?
[10:00] <crescent> i cant find /dev/hdb2
[10:00] <crescent> only hda
[10:00] <crimsun> so which hda partition # is it?
[10:02] <crescent> how will i know?
[10:02] <crescent> what do i need to type in konsole
[10:03] <crimsun> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:04] <crescent> ei i also tried hdb and i saw three partitions too
[10:04] <crescent> the other harddisk is hdb then
[10:04] <crimsun> (which is why I suggested hdb in the first place ;-)
[10:04] <crescent> :) how can i get my files from that hdb?
[10:05] <crimsun> what's the output from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[10:05] <crimsun> ?
[10:06] <crescent> device boot                                   start                          end                       blocks                                        id                              system
[10:06] <crescent>   /dev/hdb1           *              1          1185          9518481                 83                   Linux
[10:07] <crescent>  /dev/hdb2            1186        1240      441787+   5  Extended
[10:07] <crescent>  /dev/hdb5            1186        1240      441756   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:07] <crimsun> ok, so sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[10:08] <crescent> then
[10:08] <crescent> back to crescent@crescent:/
[10:11] <fatejudger> I can't seem to play any video files using gstreamer
[10:11] <fatejudger> what exactly made the Kubuntu developers go from Xine to gstreamer?
[10:11] <fatejudger> Xine never had this problem
 i can see the files already but i cant copy
[10:15] <crimsun> crescent: what are you trying to copy?
[10:15] <crimsun> fatejudger: what app are you using?
 the files from /mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent/
 when i tried these:   sudo cp /mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent /home/crescent      
[10:16] <crescent> it says: cp: omitting directory `/mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent'
[10:17] <fatejudger> crimsun: Kaffeine
[10:17] <fatejudger> crimsun: it gives me this error "No URI handler implemented for... (insert filename here)"
[10:17] <crimsun> crescent: cp /mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent /home/crescent/.
[10:17] <crimsun> err
[10:17] <crimsun> cp -a
[10:18] <crimsun> fatejudger: so just install kaffeine-xine from universe?
 what does the a do?
 cp -a
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: well I did
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: but I don't want xine
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: I want gstreamer
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: xine crashes when you use kaffeine-mozilla
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: but gstreamer doesn't
[10:20] <crimsun> fatejudger: what types of files are you trying to play?
[10:21] <crimsun> fatejudger: i.e., did you install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg?
[10:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: yes I did
[10:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: and the other plugin that plays wm-v9
[10:24] <crimsun> crescent: it preserves various file and directory attributes in addition to copying recursively
[10:24] <fatejudger> and I got the mplayer codecs to work with that
 its workin already. ive copied already... unfortunately, all the documents are locked? what can i do to resolve this?
[10:33] <crimsun> crescent: probably need write access on them
 what do i need to do?
[10:35] <crescent> how can i change the permission of these documents?
[10:37] <drasch> crescent: it sounds like they might be associated with your old UID... perhaps, you might run "chown -R <username> /path/to/documents"; where <username> is your username
 it returned:  bash: crescent: No such file or directory
[10:47] <crimsun> crescent: in your home directory, there should be a crescent directory, no?
 there is
 all the files i copied are there
[10:50] <crimsun> crescent: ls -l ~/
[10:50] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x  34 root     root         4096 2005-10-12 15:46 crescent
[10:50] <crescent> drwx------   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-14 23:54 Desktop
[10:50] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   9 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Documents
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Movies
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x  29 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Music
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Pictures
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Video
[10:51] <crescent> -rw-r--r--   1 root     root     49984748 2005-10-16 16:27 Track 02.wav
[10:53] <crimsun> ah
[10:53] <crimsun> you copied it as root?
[10:53] <crimsun> (using sudo)
[10:54] <crimsun> sudo chown -R crescent:crescent /home/crescent/crescent
[10:59] <SilvereX> hello. upgraded to breezy and now kde font selector doesn't show advanced font styles - like condensed or extended, when fonts have such style. any idea? gtk font selector shows them.
[11:00] <aaz> hey all , can anyone help me? I'm going to install kubuntu , but can i acces my Windows files 
[11:01] <crimsun> yes, you can always read your Windows files
[11:01] <crimsun> you can't write to your NTFS partition, though
[11:01] <crimsun> (you can write to FAT)
[11:01] <aaz> and is it possible to use the same /home/user ?
[11:01] <aaz> as my mandriva partition
[11:01] <crimsun> yes, but beware of the conffile differences in ~/.*
[11:01] <crimsun> in that sense, it's better if you use a different user
[11:02] <aaz> i'd better remove then
[11:02] <crimsun> SilvereX: does xlsfonts list them?
[11:04] <SilvereX> crimsun: i'm using fontconfig only, i don't care for x core font configuration. but fc-list shows them :-)
[11:05] <crimsun> SilvereX: sounds like an KDE issue of which I'm not versed since I don't use KDE.
[11:05] <crimsun> a KDE^
[11:05] <SilvereX> but this is kubuntu channel?
[11:05] <aaz> 4 mins left for the kubuntu-installation 
[11:06] <SilvereX> then you wouldn't know how to get google search bar back in konq
[11:06] <crimsun> SilvereX: no, I deal with sound issues across all of the Ubuntu-based distros.
[11:06] <aaz> what is the url to acces my windows-partition 
[11:06] <Tm_T> SilvereX: just configure your toolbars :)
[11:07] <aaz> like this   /mnt ?
[11:07] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:I missed your question.  What is your query?
[11:07] <Pwn3r> My tv card outputs to my sound cards input. but I dont here any audio from it at all.
[11:08] <aaz> crimsun ,  what's the location of the windows partition ,  /mnt ??
[11:08] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:If it's about the Google search bar, Try Setting->Configure Extensions.
[11:08] <SilvereX> Tm_T, i cannot find the entry for search bar in a list there ;-)
[11:08] <blutrausch> moin
[11:08] <SilvereX> GeneralZod, there were two questions ;-)
[11:09] <Tm_T> SilvereX: :(
[11:09] <SilvereX> ok extensions list is empty
[11:09] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Shoot :)
[11:09] <Tm_T> SilvereX: and I don't use any search bars
[11:09] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Odd - in mine, the Configure Extensions list has the Google Search Bar as a checkbox :/
[11:10] <crimsun> aaz: depends where you mounted it.
[11:10] <SilvereX> ah huh
[11:10] <aaz> what do i need to do after clean install , i'm a newbie 
[11:10] <aaz> sorry 
[11:10] <SilvereX> i'm installing konq-plugins package, maybe that will have it 
[11:11] <SilvereX> GeneralZod, the fist q: i upgraded to breezy and now kde font selector doesn't show advanced font styles - like condensed or extended, when fonts have such style. any idea? gtk font selector shows them.
[11:11] <SilvereX> *first

thanks for your help
[11:11] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Maybe, although my Kubuntu install appears to have had it by default.
 you're an angel
[11:11] <crimsun> crescent: np
[11:12] <crimsun> aaz: what disk is the Windows partition on?
[11:12] <aaz> c
[11:12] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Hmmm...I don't think mine does, either :/ Sorry!
[11:12] <aaz> the first one
[11:13] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Although my font style lists the same font with different variations e.g. Deja Vu Sans, Deja Vu San Condensed, etc.
[11:15] <aaz> how long does a kubuntu installation take ?
[11:16] <GeneralZod> mornfall:It looks like you're away at the moment, but I just wanted to say what a neat job you did in the "Quick Filter" portion of Adept - having the search carried out in a separate thread is blissful after waiting for Synaptic to churn away before giving a single result :)
[11:18] <Pwn3r> id there a way to see if my audio input is working correctly?
[11:18] <SilvereX> yeah
[11:18] <SilvereX> konq-plugins solved that
[11:18] <SilvereX> too bad for font thingie, i used to have one wonderful font for amarok osd...
[11:20] <spiral> hi
[11:20] <bhna> hi
[11:21] <xuniL_> how do i mount my windows drive?
[11:23] <SilvereX> hmm
[11:24] <SilvereX> now how do i configure what search engines are shown in that search bar drop-down? ;-)
[11:24] <bhna> are there any bugfixes for the media-hal problem?
[11:28] <xuniL_> any one know witch package bunzip is in.
[11:28] <crimsun> bzip2 contains /usr/bin/bunzip2
[11:29] <xuniL_> thank you :D
[11:29] <xuniL_> thougt the command was bunzip ...
[11:30] <tenco> did a fresh install of breezy today and sudo isnt working
[11:30] <tenco> is there a workaround?
[11:31] <xuniL_> how do you know its not working
[11:31] <xuniL_> ?
[11:32] <tenco> i do "sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces" and nothing happens
[11:32] <tenco> or "sudo echo 'test'"
[11:32] <bhna> any workaround for usb-thumbdrive automounting?
[11:33] <xuniL_> whriteing the correct psw?
[11:33] <bsd3> Hay! I made remote installing Kubuntu a success from an ISO mounted to a doc-root via netboot!!
[11:34] <xuniL_> if you whant to have root psw to nothing that would be pretty easy
[11:34] <xuniL_> if you have a live cd..
[11:34] <tenco> xuniL_: yes
[11:34] <tenco> xuniL_: i dunno. sudo doesnt complain
[11:34] <bsd3> My netboot install of Breezy is running like a breeze!!!
[11:35] <tenco> xuniL_: phps i should just reinstall...
[11:35] <xuniL_> there are a file named password that the root psw are saved... if you enter with a live cd you can delete it...
[11:36] <puckman> Does anyone know how to convert mail from Thunderbird to kmail?
[11:38] <libben> lol, ive made winkey+space to start terminal and winkey+k to start konversation... but i cant find the shortcuts when im in the shortcuts sections
[11:39] <libben> wheres the file where i can see my added things
[11:39] <xuniL_> i need help with changeing kmenuedit
[11:39] <xuniL_> i cant change it..
[11:39] <libben> i did this before i updated to final 
[11:39] <libben> xuniL_: how u mean
[11:39] <xuniL_> i add a item and put name and every thing and save but nothing happens
[11:40] <puckman> i guess no one knows then?
[11:40] <xuniL_> then i enter the menu..
[11:40] <libben> u mean it dont gets into the K-menu?
[11:40] <xuniL_> yeah
[11:41] <libben> ok
[11:41] <libben> do this ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[11:41] <xuniL_> i have runed it in console now... iam getting some errors dont know how to fix...
[11:41] <libben> and paste me the one line that has the username and the group
[11:42] <libben> what have u runned in console?
[11:42] <xuniL_> i runned it like this "sudo kmenuedit"
[11:42] <xuniL_> www.pastebin.com
[11:43] <xuniL_> http://pastebin.com/395207
[11:43] <libben> u should never run KDE apps with SUDO
[11:43] <libben> if u wanna run it with root previliages
[11:43] <inc|freaky> damn
[11:43] <inc|freaky> :D
[11:43] <libben> use kdesu kmenuedit
[11:43] <inc|freaky> how to disable these smileys in kvirc
[11:43] <xuniL_> well i tried without and thats not working ither
[11:43] <libben> kdesu kmenuedit
[11:44] <libben> type that and it will work
[11:44] <libben> xuniL_: tell me what u get from doing this 
[11:44] <libben> ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[11:44] <xuniL_> no such file or directory
[11:45] <libben> type kbuildsycoca just in terminal and no sudo on it
[11:45] <xuniL_> then doing "kdesu kmenuedit" the superkaramba item are there that i whant to install...
[11:45] <xuniL_> but why doesent it show up in kmenu=
[11:45] <xuniL_> ?
[11:46] <libben> just type it in terminal
[11:46] <xuniL_> kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca'!
[11:46] <xuniL_> kbuildsycoca: Wrong permissions on directory? Disk full?
[11:46] <libben> yes
[11:46] <libben> now type ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[11:46] <libben> sorry
[11:46] <libben> not that one
[11:47] <xuniL_> ?
[11:47] <libben> ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca
[11:47] <libben> u need the username in there
[11:47] <libben> u got my username
[11:47] <libben> im still waking up =)
[11:47] <xuniL_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 879827 2005-10-15 13:23 /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca
[11:47] <libben> yes
[11:47] <libben> its wrong 
[11:47] <xuniL_> wrong?
[11:47] <libben> it should be samuelkr samuelkr
[11:47] <libben> instead of root root
[11:48] <xuniL_> okey... how do i change that?
[11:49] <libben> sudo chown samuelkr.samuelkr -R /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/
[11:49] <libben> ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca
[11:49] <xuniL_> ahh now it says samuelkr
[11:49] <libben> ok
[11:49] <libben> good
[11:49] <libben> then u type the kbuildssycoca again
[11:50] <libben> -s
[11:50] <libben> kbuildsycoca
[11:50] <libben> and it should give u alot more warnings =)
[11:50] <libben> now look in ur menu
[11:50] <xuniL_> well it did
[11:50] <xuniL_> yay now i have five of the items i whant :D
[11:51] <xuniL_> thx a lot
[11:51] <libben> yes u can tnk me bye thanking Riddell. he did this step with me last nite. 
[11:51] <libben> im glad i could help
[11:53] <xuniL_> :D
[11:54] <xuniL_> you may be can help me with my other problem... cant get into my windows drive
[11:55] <ph8> morning all
[11:55] <libben> xuniL_: how u mean
[11:55] <libben> u cant mount it?
[11:55] <libben> or u mean u cant boot to it from grub?
[11:56] <xuniL_> it is mounted
[11:56] <xuniL_> i can gett in to windows
[11:56] <ph8> Do you know if there's something that rivals adobe illustrator/photoshop for linux?
[11:57] <xuniL_> but i cant enter it from linux
[11:57] <libben> ph8: tried gimp?
[11:58] <libben> xuniL_: so u just wanna be able to read from it in linux.
[11:58] <xuniL_> yes... it is mounted but i cant enter
[11:58] <libben> and u mounted it to /media/andafoldernameherelikeWindos?
[11:58] <xuniL_> no its named Hard Disk (hda2)
[11:58] <libben> so what was the parm that u mounted it with?
[11:59] <xuniL_> it was automouted
[11:59] <libben> aah, u mean that windows is on a own hd? and u havent done anything except starting kubuntu ? 
[11:59] <xuniL_> yes
[12:00] <xuniL_> and no..
[12:00] <libben> k
[12:01] <libben> u need to mount it in fstab if u want it to be perm mounted
[12:01] <libben> otherwise u can just type one line
[12:01] <libben> but first go to /media
[12:01] <xuniL_> done
[12:01] <libben> and create a folder named windows
[12:01] <libben> or whatever u like
[12:02] <libben> and what do u have on ur windows hd? do u have many partitions? or is it just one big C: 
[12:03] <xuniL_> i cant create a folder in media...
[12:03] <libben> ur doing it in terminal?
[12:03] <xuniL_> there are this linux partition and swap and C
[12:03] <xuniL_> no..
[12:03] <libben> konq?
[12:03] <xuniL_> yes
[12:05] <xuniL_> i am in media now in shell
[12:06] <libben> then u can type sudo mkdir windows
[12:07] <libben> u need root priv to create a folder outside ur home folder.... U can do anything in ur home folder sort of speak.. and as soon u go out to / "root" and go into its subfolders. u need root priv if u wanna change or add something
[12:07] <xuniL_> done
[12:07] <xuniL_> k
[12:08] <libben> hang on... gonna fetch u a url also
[12:11] <libben> xuniL_: sorry for the holdup. was using the *cough*facilities
[12:11] <libben> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:12] <xuniL_> np
[12:12] <libben> u need to know wich partition u gonna mount also =)
[12:13] <xuniL_> should i just do sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[12:13] <libben> well, yes and no
[12:14] <xuniL_> okey?
[12:14] <libben> if u do that u gonna mount hda1, and u can see the contents of it in /media/windows
[12:14] <libben> but im guessing u gonna be mounting the wrong partition =)
[12:14] <libben> type sudo fdisk -l to see all ur partitions
[12:15] <libben> for example
[12:15] <libben> i have also hda1 
[12:15] <libben> and i mounted hda1,5
[12:15] <libben> if not misstaking
[12:15] <xuniL_> i tink that mine are hd2
[12:15] <libben> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:16] <libben> put the whole fdisk output there
[12:16] <xuniL_> but if its the wrong partition aint it just unmount it..
[12:16] <xuniL_> are the -l a i or L?
[12:16] <libben> L
[12:17] <xuniL_> if i type fdisk -l (L)
[12:17] <xuniL_> nothing happens
[12:17] <libben> u need sudo on it
[12:17] <xuniL_> k
[12:17] <libben> but 
[12:17] <libben> u must type it with L
[12:17] <libben> sudo fdisk -l 
[12:17] <xuniL_> done
[12:18] <xuniL_> its hd2
[12:18] <libben> paste the results into the pastebin url above
[12:18] <xuniL_> its done
[12:18] <xuniL_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395224
[12:18] <_robin> hibernate and suspend works great, but I always have to setup wlan0 manualy after a resume.. so :ifconfig wlan0 up & dhcpclient3 
[12:18] <_robin> how can I do that automaticaly.
[12:21] <libben> xuniL_: just try them both
[12:21] <libben> i mean
[12:21] <libben> try mounting hda1 first
[12:21] <libben> then look in /media/windows folder if it was the right one =)
[12:21] <libben> if it wasnt
[12:21] <libben> you umount /media/windows
[12:21] <xuniL_> k
[12:22] <libben> go out from the folder first. then type umount /media/windows
[12:22] <libben> and mount the other hda2
[12:22] <libben> and look in /media/windows again
[12:22] <libben> and when u find the right one... u add the line to fstab
[12:22] <libben> so it will be fixed at bootup everytime
[12:23] <libben> but when u add to fstab u need another line then the one ur doing, cause that is just manually mounting
[12:23] <libben> add this line to fstab
[12:24] <libben> and this line u add in /etc/fstab file: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:24] <libben> and u need to sudo into that line
[12:24] <libben> use kdesu if u want a graphical 
[12:24] <libben> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[12:25] <libben> and add the line /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:25] <libben> and dont forget to use the right hda1 or 2
[12:26] <xuniL_> your moveing a litle to fast :D
[12:26] <bobbyd> well, I just tried to update kubuntu using the CD and synaptic. when I rebooted I got a kernel panic saying that it couldnt' find hda. I'm just reinstalling from the CD.
[12:26] <bobbyd> did anyone else see anything like that?
[12:26] <xuniL_> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[12:26] <xuniL_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /media/hda2
[12:27] <xuniL_> is says then i tryed to mount hd2
[12:28] <libben> hmm
[12:29] <libben> was hda1 wrong by the way? it was ur c: ?
[12:29] <xuniL_> i have a hardisk named hda2
[12:29] <xuniL_> tryed to umount it dident work..
[12:29] <xuniL_> wrong fs tab
[12:29] <xuniL_> and a lot more
[12:29] <xuniL_> i think thats my linux drive
[12:30] <libben> trye typing umount -f /media/windows
[12:31] <xuniL_> i am in my windows drive now..
[12:31] <xuniL_> got it mounted on /media/windows
[12:32] <libben> so whats in there ?
[12:32] <xuniL_> cant see in on media thow..
[12:32] <xuniL_> all my files...
[12:33] <xuniL_> and i cant see the windows dir
[12:33] <xuniL_> and i still see the hd2 on media... that i umounted..
[12:33] <libben> all my files that u wanted to be there ?
[12:34] <xuniL_> yes
[12:34] <libben> so its all good?
[12:35] <xuniL_> no not fully..
[12:35] <xuniL_> .
[12:35] <xuniL_> i cant see the windows drive in media...
[12:35] <xuniL_> but i see the hda2 drive that i umounted...
[12:35] <xuniL_> or do i need to restart do take a effekt
[12:35] <xuniL_> ?
[12:36] <libben> svenne
[12:36] <CellarDoor> hi folks... I have a question or two concerning doing a dist-upgrade to breezy
[12:36] <xuniL_> svenne?
[12:36] <libben> svensk?
[12:37] <xuniL_> mm
[12:37] <libben> sg et =)
[12:37] <xuniL_> du med?
[12:37] <libben> m
[12:37] <xuniL_> heh
[12:37] <xuniL_> i fstab s str det redan en hda2
[12:37] <xuniL_> ta bort den raden?
[12:38] <libben> pasta din fstab
[12:38] <libben> pastebin d
[12:38] <Chousuke> #ubuntu-se or something, please :/
[12:38] <CellarDoor> I changed all instances of "hoary" in my sources list to "breezy"... did an update and then did a dist-upgrade and left it overnight... today I expected to be using breezy but I'm still on hoary for some reason... can anyone tell me whats happening here ?
[12:38] <xuniL_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395235
[12:39] <libben> so whats in it then ? is there folder /hda2 in media?
[12:39] <xuniL_> ja men kan inte g in i den...
[12:40] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: um, did you apt-get update?
[12:40] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: yeppers
[12:40] <libben> k
[12:40] <libben> hmm=)
[12:40] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: and it did upgrade?
[12:40] <bobbyd> xuniL_, I think this is an english channel. I'm not sure anyone speaks danish?
[12:40] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: dist-upgrade yes
[12:40] <xuniL_> lol its swedish!
[12:40] <Chousuke> swedish. p
[12:40] <libben> bobbyd: ! its swedish... dont insult us
[12:41] <libben> danish pfff
[12:41] <bobbyd> sorry
[12:41] <xuniL_> :D
[12:41] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: then it should be upgraded
[12:41] <bobbyd> libben,  I can't tell from just looking
[12:41] <Chousuke> Why do you think it's still Hoary?
[12:41] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: yeah thats why I'm scratching my head here
[12:41] <bobbyd> libben, I'm actually part swedish, an eighth :)
[12:41] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: cause there's no indication that anything has been upgraded
[12:41] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: checked versions?
[12:42] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: it doesn't really change much on the outside :P
[12:42] <bobbyd> xuniL_, what's the easiest way to tell the different between writtern danish and swedish?
[12:42] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: I'm still on KDE 3.4.2 for example, I don't have the new login screen etc...
[12:42] <Chousuke> hm.
[12:42] <xuniL_> hmmm....
[12:43] <coruja> CellarDoor: cat /etc/issue to find out your current release
[12:43] <xuniL_> dunno...
[12:43] <libben> its 
[12:43] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[12:43] <bobbyd> xuniL_, ok, I'll google it
[12:43] <libben> danish dont use those
[12:43] <xuniL_> then dansih are speaking then you can hear the difference..
[12:43] <bobbyd> ahh
[12:44] <bobbyd> xuniL_, yes, we have a danish guy at work
[12:44] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: double check your sources.list
[12:44] <libben> danish is like filthy talk... swedish should replace english or spanish =)
[12:44] <xuniL_> libben have should i remove the hda2 line?
[12:44] <Chousuke> libben: arfgms
[12:44] <xuniL_> heh at least spanish :D
[12:44] <Chousuke> English is easier than Swedish
[12:45] <xuniL_> yes but swedish is easyer than spanish
[12:45] <Chousuke> maybe.
[12:45] <Chousuke> Never studied spanish
[12:45] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: can I pm you my sources.list ?
[12:46] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: go ahead.
[12:46] <libben> well, swedish is more clean and more logical... english is not so logical.
[12:46] <Chousuke> But English is simple still
[12:47] <Pwn3r> my tv card worked ok a few days ago but now kdetv gives me a segmentation fault :(
[12:47] <Chousuke> swedish has gender and -or -ar -er and whatever x_x
[12:47] <Pwn3r> and tvtime says it needs more memory?
[12:48] <CellarDoor> am I still on ?
[12:48] <CellarDoor> I keep getting dc
[12:48] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:48] <Chousuke> yes?
[12:48] <Chousuke> :P
[12:48] <xuniL_> libben should i remove the hda2 line
[12:48] <xuniL_> ?
[12:49] <libben> dont really know =)
[12:49] <xuniL_> heh
[12:49] <CellarDoor> ok I'm not registered yet so I'll just paste a bit here
[12:49] <Chousuke> ah
[12:49] <Chousuke> don't
[12:49] <coruja> CellarDoor: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com for large amount of text
[12:49] <CellarDoor> ok
[12:49] <coruja> i.e. about 5 lines or more
[12:49] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: I didn't realise you couldn't PM me :P
[12:49] <libben> but u say its all good... u see al the files u wanna access in /media/windows with hda1 ?
[12:50] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: me neither :p
[12:50] <xuniL_> i see all the files in shell but not in konq
[12:50] <xuniL_> and its hda2
[12:50] <xuniL_> remove the hda2 line in fstab
[12:50] <xuniL_> and but in the other line
[12:51] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: ok, I've just pasted my sources.list in the pastebin
[12:51] <Chousuke> paste a link then :)
[12:51] <CellarDoor> oh
[12:51] <CellarDoor> :p
[12:51] <CellarDoor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395244
[12:52] <CellarDoor> this pastebin thing aint a bad looking idea
[12:52] <libben> some1 more experienced than me should take over here. =)
[12:52] <Chousuke> deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/kubuntu breezy-updates main I think this is redundant :P
[12:52] <libben> Chousuke: u wanna jump in on a mounting help? 
[12:53] <Chousuke> Well, tell me what's wrong and I'll see if I can help :P
[12:53] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: ah yes
[12:53] <libben> we created a /media/windows folder and looked at the partitions with fdisk -l and mounted hda1 to see if that was the right part to mount, then umount it and try to mount the hda2 to see what that was. 
[12:54] <libben> but he allready has hda2 mounted in fstab 
[12:54] <libben> but he cant look at it in /media/hda2
[12:54] <xuniL_> i umounted hda2
[12:54] <xuniL_> and mounted it again to the windows folder!
[12:54] <Chousuke> if it's in fstab it doesn't mean it's mounted.
[12:54] <libben> xuniL_: there is a folder called hda2 in /media? or did i get that wrong
[12:54] <azertyuuu> hello all
[12:54] <xuniL_> its named
[12:54] <azertyuuu> i'm new to kubuntu and i want to get acces to my windowsfiles, can anyone help me
[12:55] <xuniL_> "hard drive (hda2)"
[12:55] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:55] <Chousuke> and it's ntfs?
[12:55] <azertyuuu> yes
[12:56] <xuniL_> i can enter media/windows in console to gett my files but not with konq
[12:56] <xuniL_> yes its ntfs
[12:56] <Chousuke> what happens with konqueror?
[12:56] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: so, I should just # that out then ? and maybe change deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 breezy-updates main to "kde343" ??
[12:56] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: no. it's useless in breezy
[12:56] <Chousuke> !breezy
[12:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:57] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: oh
[12:57] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: of course
[12:58] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: I missed that bit... but looks like I need to paste from the guide anyway
[12:59] <CellarDoor> ubotu: thanks for the link
[12:59] <ubotu> CellarDoor: gern geschehen
[12:59] <xuniL_> so my hda2 is now mounted in media/windows and umounted in media/hda2 but hda2 is still showned in media and my new mounted windows folder aint showing...
[12:59] <CellarDoor> ubotu: ?
[12:59] <ubotu> CellarDoor: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:00] <Chousuke> ubotu is a bot :P
[01:00] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Chousuke
[01:00] <CellarDoor> oh
[01:00] <Chousuke> heh.
[01:00] <CellarDoor> :p
[01:00] <xuniL_> i like you ubotu
[01:01] <xuniL_> chousuke should i try to "ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:01] <Chousuke> that'd only restart X :P
[01:01] <Chousuke> !ntfs
[01:01] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:01] <xuniL_> but do i need to restart to gett it showing in media?
[01:02] <Chousuke> xuniL_: I think this might be hal trouble.
[01:02] <Chousuke> xuniL_: if it is, then it's a known bug
[01:02] <xuniL_> hal?
[01:02] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: thanks for the help, I shall follow the BreezyUpgrade guide and I should be right
[01:02] <xuniL_> any fix?
[01:02] <Chousuke> how are you trying to access the mount?
[01:02] <CellarDoor> gtg
[01:02] <Chousuke> not yet AFAIK
[01:02] <Chousuke> with media://?
[01:02] <xuniL_> media/windows
[01:03] <Chousuke> so hm
[01:03] <Chousuke> is it mounted there? :P
[01:03] <xuniL_> no..
[01:04] <Chousuke> hm. well obviously you wouldn't see the files then
[01:04] <xuniL_> but if i cd /media/windows
[01:04] <xuniL_> i can se them in console
[01:04] <Chousuke> as a users?
[01:04] <xuniL_> trying the howto you send.
[01:04] <Chousuke> -s
[01:05] <Chousuke> because that's really weird
[01:05] <Chousuke> if you can see it as /media/windows then it's mounted
[01:05] <Chousuke> and it should be like just another directory
[01:05] <xuniL_> yeah...
[01:06] <Chousuke> are you sure you're not using media:/// to access it?
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> mount: RPC: Program not registered
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> any idea what causese this when trying to mount nfs shares? i think its to do with rpc not being able to listen out
[01:06] <Chousuke> you need that mapper thing I think.
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah , thats it :O
[01:06] <xuniL_> yeah i am sure
[01:06] <Chousuke> portmap
[01:07] <xuniL_> chousuke whanna vnc?
[01:07] <Chousuke> xuniL_: do you have proper permission to the dir?
[01:07] <xuniL_> dont know if its working thow.
[01:07] <Chousuke> xuniL_: fine by me. 
[01:07] <Chousuke> Hope it isn't too slow :P
[01:07] <xuniL_> heh
[01:09] <Chousuke> xuniL_: can you PM me? :P
[01:09] <spiral> hi
[01:09] <xuniL_> need to reg..
[01:09] <Chousuke> are you on other networks?
[01:09] <xuniL_> give mail and i will send it..
[01:10] <xuniL_> no..
[01:10] <Chousuke> I wonder if there is an option to allow unregged PMs
[01:11] <xuniL_> give mail and i send a invitation
[01:11] <Chousuke> /whois me
[01:11] <Chousuke> and take out the 1= part
[01:11] <Chousuke> i= 
[01:12] <Chousuke> I don't want to say my mail on this channel in case there are spambots :P
[01:12] <DexterF_> hi
[01:12] <xuniL_> eheh k
[01:13] <DexterF_> how do I change the X refresh? My monitor is connected via BNC so no EDID info hence X drops to 60Hz
[01:13] <DexterF_> which doesn't rock of course
[01:14] <Chousuke> now if I only would get a VNC client installed
[01:15] <xuniL_> heh:D
[01:16] <xuniL_> now its posted
[01:16] <Chousuke> ok.
[01:16] <Smeggy> hello, i have a question: how can I switch over to my USB audio device in Kubuntu?
[01:16] <Chousuke> might take a while to arrive.
[01:16] <Chousuke> :P
[01:16] <xuniL_> k
[01:17] <xuniL_> if it dont work first time test port 5900
[01:17] <Smeggy> the usb audio device is supported under Linux, as it worked in Ubuntu, and KDE knows about it as it shows up in KInfoCenter
[01:17] <Smeggy> but i'm not sure how to switch over to using it :)
[01:18] <Chousuke> xuniL_: it sent me your lan address :/
[01:18] <Chousuke> can i get your IP from your whois?
[01:18] <xuniL_> got to get no-ip working ..
[01:19] <xuniL_> 81.231.148.141
[01:19] <xuniL_> thats my ip
[01:20] <xuniL_> can you connecT?
[01:22] <Chousuke> trying :P
[01:22] <iface> how to unrar files? ark says that i have to install unrar, but there is no package in adept called unrar...
[01:22] <Chousuke> I'll use the web interface
[01:22] <xuniL_> ahh.
[01:23] <the_low|afk> hi chan
[01:23] <Smeggy> So, does anyone know how to switch between soundcards?
[01:23] <Chousuke> except it seems to not load properlu
[01:23] <xuniL_> is it loading the java applet?
[01:23] <Chousuke> which display is it?
[01:23] <xuniL_> try the 5900 port
[01:23] <the_low> problem: i need to run a script with root rights - could anybody point me in the right (google) direction, plz?
[01:24] <the_low> regularly, without sudo, that is
[01:24] <xuniL_> 81.231.148.141:5900
[01:24] <DexterF_> chown it to root and set suid bit
[01:24] <DexterF_> man chmod
[01:24] <the_low> DexterF_: thanks.
[01:26] <xuniL_> chousuke 81.231.148.141:5900 try that...
[01:26] <Chousuke> xuniL_: trying
[01:26] <xuniL_> k
[01:26] <Chousuke> but it doesn't seem to like it
[01:26] <blurpy> it's sad that after 3 releases the (k)ubuntu installation still does not get the mode right for my laptop monitor, so it's black unless i set the framebuffer mode on the command line. and now i just finished a clean install of kubuntu, and when booting now, the screen is black again :/
[01:26] <Chousuke> are you sure your firewall isn't blocking anything?
[01:26] <xuniL_> hm... dunno
[01:26] <Chousuke> how about the java server?
[01:27] <xuniL_> havent configurate the firewall
[01:27] <xuniL_> i know that my routher have those port open
[01:27] <Chousuke> do you have 5800 open?
[01:27] <xuniL_> yes and 5900
[01:27] <Chousuke> it loads some java applet, but I can only see a red X
[01:27] <xuniL_> but i wrote that i should use 5900
[01:27] <Chousuke> the connection times out
[01:28] <DexterF_> when I tinker with xorg.conf with my fav editor it won't survive the next update, right?
[01:28] <azertyuuu> hey all, can somebody help me to install  opera
[01:29] <Smeggy> what do you need azertyuuu 
[01:29] <azertyuuu> opera webbroswer installed
[01:29] <Chousuke> xuniL_: are you using tightvnc?
[01:30] <xuniL_> krfb
[01:30] <Chousuke> what is that?
[01:30] <Smeggy> azertyuuu, grab the static .deb from the opera site, run dpkg -i file.deb
[01:30] <Smeggy> thats all you need to do :)
[01:30] <xuniL_> thats the name of the program heh
[01:30] <Chousuke> ah, righ, KDE desktop sharing
[01:31] <azertyuuu> Smeggy the website says that i need to open in a texteditor
[01:31] <Smeggy> where does it say that azertyuuu?
[01:32] <azertyuuu> when it normally has to ask either to save or to open
[01:32] <Chousuke> xuniL_: the java applet isn't giving me access
[01:32] <xuniL_> how do i enable it then?
[01:32] <Chousuke> No idea.
[01:32] <xuniL_> heh
[01:33] <iface> where to get the packages RAR or UNRAR?
[01:33] <Chousuke> xuniL_: are you sure you configured the server to accept connections from the internet?
[01:33] <azertyuuu> ah now it works
[01:33] <Chousuke> iface: non-free ones are in multiverse.
[01:34] <xuniL_> test again now..
[01:34] <xuniL_> with 5900
[01:34] <xuniL_> still the same?
[01:34] <iface> i added multiverse to my respositories, but i cant find it ...
[01:35] <xuniL_> still not working chousuke?
[01:35] <Chousuke> xuniL_: still times ouy
[01:35] <Chousuke> out*
[01:35] <xuniL_> hmm...
[01:36] <xuniL_> how do i configruate the firewall? in console?
[01:36] <Chousuke> do you even have one?
[01:36] <Chousuke> maybe krfb is incompatible with regular VNC
[01:37] <xuniL_> do you have kdrc?
[01:37] <xuniL_> krdc
[01:37] <Chousuke> no. :P
[01:37] <Chousuke> I'm running OS X
[01:37] <xuniL_> ahhh...
[01:38] <Chousuke> I think I could compile it.
[01:38] <Chousuke> but that would take AGES
[01:38] <Chousuke> :P
[01:38] <Chousuke> because of the KDE dependencies.
[01:38] <xuniL_> i will try with real vnc viewer
[01:40] <Chousuke> xuniL_: you could use tightvncserver
[01:40] <xuniL_> okey will install that then
[01:41] <xuniL_> soon done
[01:41] <Chousuke> and it has a web server 
[01:41] <Chousuke> use that.
[01:41] <xuniL_> okey
[01:42] <xuniL_> iam downloading rigth now
[01:42] <Chousuke> you'll need to read the manual page a bit though
[01:42] <xuniL_> nhaaa :D
[01:43] <azertyuuu> why are all the fonts in Kubuntu so big ???
[01:43] <xuniL_> getting wine now too...
[01:43] <azertyuuu> how can i change that
[01:44] <azertyuuu> btw, how can i get acces to windowsfiles in Konqi, it says that i have ho rights
[01:44] <Chousuke> xuniL_: wine?
[01:45] <xuniL_> yeah..
[01:45] <xuniL_> wine  emulator...
[01:45] <xuniL_> try again now with 5900...
[01:47] <Chousuke> hmm, now it did something
[01:47] <Chousuke> yay
[01:47] <xuniL_> hehe. :P
[01:47] <DexterF_> umm. ok, no one know about making my CRT go 1280@85?
[01:47] <xuniL_> laggy..
[01:48] <Chousuke> let's see.
[01:48] <Chousuke> hm :/
[01:48] <Chousuke> it broke
[01:48] <xuniL_> lol it krashed
[01:48] <xuniL_> krfb
[01:48] <Chousuke> :D
[01:48] <xuniL_> krashed
[01:48] <Chousuke> but hey, you got it to work.
[01:48] <xuniL_> you sould here my computer... then you conneted...
[01:48] <Chousuke> let's try again :p
[01:49] <irielion> my konsole fonts are really bad... happened after update, how can i fix this?
[01:49] <xuniL_> chousuke pm and i could send psw
[01:50] <xuniL_> lol my computer sounded like hell then you connected
[01:50] <Chousuke> ?)
[01:50] <xuniL_> the password you got was one time use....
[01:50] <xuniL_> hemligt
[01:51] <xuniL_> thats the psw
[01:51] <Chousuke> ok
[01:51] <coruja> irielion: you can change the fonts in konsole's preferences
[01:51] <azertyuuu> btw, how can i get acces to windowsfiles in Konqi, it says that i have ho rights
[01:52] <Chousuke> hnmm
[01:52] <xuniL_> ?
[01:52] <Chousuke> which of those is konqueror? :d
[01:52] <azertyuuu> konqueror
[01:52] <xuniL_> here you go :D
[01:52] <Chousuke> ah. ok :P
[01:52] <azertyuuu> can you help me
[01:53] <Chousuke> wtf.
[01:53] <Chousuke> that's interesting
[01:53] <xuniL_> thats the one i umounted
[01:53] <azertyuuu> how can i get acces to windowsfiles in Konqi, it says that i have no rights
[01:54] <Chousuke> interesting
[01:55] <iface> i am using the new kubuntu 5.10, but i can't find rar or unrar in multiverse nor universe? does anybody know where to get them?
[01:55] <Chousuke> argh
[01:56] <xuniL_> wtf...
[01:56] <xuniL_> working now---
[01:56] <Chousuke> yeah
[01:56] <xuniL_> k
[01:56] <Chousuke> so you can't access it properly from through the mounted hd's dir
[01:56] <Chousuke> but if you write the path manually it'll work
[01:56] <xuniL_> nod..
[01:57] <DexterF_> do I need voice in here?
[01:57] <coruja> iface: the packages are called unrar-free and unrar-nonfree, both in the breezy repos
[01:57] <xuniL_> okey..
[01:58] <buz> with connected usb2 drive, it wont load all modules but crashes
[01:58] <Chousuke> KDE looks kind of cool :)
[01:58] <xuniL_> heh...
[01:58] <buz> after unplugging it the installer worked
[01:58] <xuniL_> you run gnome?
[01:59] <libben> ok
[01:59] <Chousuke> xuniL_: yeah. Or well, would if I had ubuntu.
[01:59] <libben> what was this update manager?
[01:59] <libben> why not have it in adept?
[01:59] <Chousuke> KDE lacks some features I need.
[01:59] <libben> synaptic is just reload and mark all updates
[01:59] <xuniL_> k
[01:59] <libben> why a single program for this
[01:59] <buz> Chousuke: features like ?
[01:59] <Chousuke> buz: input modules.
[02:00] <xuniL_> my brother bought a powerbook a few weeks ago.. :D
[02:00] <Chousuke> buz: they will be introduced in QT 4
[02:00] <coruja> libben: as adept is rather new, i suppose there will be still some features to come in future...
[02:01] <coruja> and iirc there's no development of kynaptic anymore
[02:01] <Chousuke> I'll try installing KDE
[02:01] <Chousuke> it'll take a long time to compile though :/
[02:01] <xuniL_> heh
[02:02] <xuniL_> any one feel like vs in enemy-territory?
[02:03] <iface> coruja, unrar-nonfree is not in my list. which url must be added to responsities to get the packet?
[02:03] <iface> i will check if its there
[02:04] <xuniL_> how do i fix th mp3 problem?
[02:05] <iface> xuniL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:05] <coruja> iface: maybe you haven't all sections enabled: main restricted universe multiverse
[02:05] <libben> xuniL_: make that urbanterror and u got a game =)
[02:06] <xuniL_> hmm i will download it then :_D
[02:06] <libben> its a quake3 mod =)
[02:06] <libben> so u need to install quake3 and then download urt
[02:06] <Chousuke> Can you play quake 3 mods even without the actual game? :D
[02:06] <Chousuke> the source is free.
[02:07] <libben> ;P
[02:07] <xuniL_> you can play enemy-terriory free..
[02:07] <Chousuke>  might go and download it
[02:08] <xuniL_> http://www.mrbass.org/enemyterritory/
[02:08] <libben> urbanterror was going to be ported to ET, but im not sure what has happend now when q3 source is free
[02:08] <xuniL_> for mac :D
[02:08] <iface> coruja, thx's a lot. i find it
[02:08] <iface> but it was very curious ...
[02:09] <Chousuke> TOASnet isn't even being slow today
[02:09] <Chousuke> able to DL 200kBps :P
[02:09] <Chousuke> and sometimes I even get as fast as 600kBps :o
[02:10] <Chousuke> but when people are warezing it's usually something like 20-30kBps
[02:12] <Chousuke> I wonder if a PB has enough power to run ET.
[02:12] <Chousuke> The HD might cause troule.
[02:12] <Chousuke> trouble*
[02:12] <nikkia> Chousuke: i think the OSX version runs on a PB 'ok', but i dunno if there is a PPC version for linux
[02:13] <Chousuke> I'm running OS X now anyway. :)
[02:13] <Chousuke> Have to try Ubuntu when my breezy CDs arerive though.
[02:13] <Chousuke> arrive.
[02:14] <xuniL_> what pb du uoi have?
[02:15] <Chousuke> an older model. 1.33GHz, 1.25GB of RAM and GeForce FX 5200 Go 64MB (or something)
[02:15] <xuniL_> pb do you have?
[02:15] <xuniL_> ok
[02:16] <xuniL_> the only problem would be the prosessor
[02:16] <NeedHelp> Hi, Can You help me? I dont know How to play An mp3 with kubuntu. Im using the 5.10 version!
[02:17] <libben> NeedHelp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <xuniL_> et roxx
[02:18] <NeedHelp> Thanks, I'm watching
[02:18] <xuniL_> i had a UT2004 key too but it got baned...
[02:19] <NeedHelp> Hey, help me Libben
[02:20] <NeedHelp> i've seen but it says the packet is obsolet
[02:20] <NeedHelp> it says it's too old !
[02:21] <_ubuntu> lulu
[02:21] <jpatrick> lo
[02:22] <_ubuntu> francais ?
[02:22] <jpatrick> non
[02:22] <azertyuuu> hey all , how can i have permission to acces /mnt/windows in kubuntu ???
[02:23] <libben> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[02:23] <jpatrick> libben: not the guide :o
[02:23] <libben> xuniL_: do u have problems when gaming?
[02:24] <xuniL_> just played a litle yesterday... but no...
[02:24] <xuniL_> not then..
[02:24] <xuniL_> just that i have to run it as root :D
[02:24] <jpatrick> xuniL_: sudo -s
[02:24] <libben> thats really wrong
[02:24] <libben> u shouldent run games as root
[02:24] <jpatrick> yeah
[02:24] <libben> then u made something wrong
[02:24] <bsd3> Hi, Friends!
[02:24] <libben> but anyhow
[02:25] <Chousuke> one possible solution: add yourself to the video group :P
[02:25] <xuniL_> i will take a look again... at it
[02:25] <Chousuke> please note this is guessing the problem :P
[02:25] <bsd3> I have installed Kubuntu from an ISO image mouted on to another machine via netboot
[02:25] <libben> i have some problems with quake3... i cant get console to dropdown... and only solution to this is to have us keyboard layout before i boot the game
[02:26] <Chousuke> But hmm
[02:26] <xuniL_> well i cant get down the console ... but i write all i need in my config.cfg
[02:26] <Chousuke> It'll be cool when technology advances so much you can play first-person shooters over VNC
[02:26] <Chousuke> or a similar technology.
[02:27] <xuniL_> then no one would be doing work at work..
[02:27] <Chousuke> then I could just keep machines in my closet and use them all with my main desktop machine.
[02:28] <bobbyd> Chousuke, have you seen nxclient?
[02:28] <Chousuke> hmm, no.
[02:29] <bobbyd> Chousuke, the nomachine stuff is amaxing compared to vnc for X
[02:29] <bobbyd> it does audio and video
[02:29] <bobbyd> over a lan, 3d is pretty good too
[02:29] <Chousuke> heh.
[02:31] <Chousuke> I'll install that on my parent's machine
[02:31] <bobbyd> it's also great over a modem
[02:31] <bobbyd> so much better than vnc
[02:31] <bobbyd> but it's only for connecting to machines running X
[02:31] <libben> what do i need to be able to see all media contents on sites with firefox? 
[02:32] <libben> i have mozila-player plugin
[02:32] <libben> but that blanks on me sometimes.
[02:32] <libben> it gets to 99% and then never shows the video
[02:34] <jpatrick> libben: the "guidance control thingy" is in System Settings
[02:35] <libben> jpatrick: system settings == guidance control? or is it a thing in system settings. cause i dont have a icon called that =)
[02:36] <jpatrick> libben: No guidance control are modules for System Settings
[02:36] <jpatrick> or KControl
[02:36] <libben> yeah, so all the things in system settings are guidance control
[02:36] <xuniL_> libben dident need to run ET with root any more
[02:37] <jpatrick> libben: the modules are Storage Media, Users & Groups, and Disk and Filesystems
[02:37] <libben> ooh.. k. then i know =)
[02:38] <jpatrick> libben: I don't know why Adept is not on the menu..
[02:38] <libben> jpatrick: ur reading from the forums ill take it ?
[02:38] <jpatrick> libben: yep :)
[02:38] <xuniL_> okey i needed root acess
[02:38] <libben> well i got it fixed
[02:38] <libben> i kbuildsycoca it =)
[02:38] <xuniL_> :/
[02:39] <gath> hello, i installed the new version (breezy) yet
[02:39] <jpatrick> okay
[02:39] <gath> but i have some problems to install some kde-programs over apt
[02:39] <xuniL_> libben i installed it in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/
[02:39] <gath> i always get some errors
[02:40] <libben> xuniL_: im not the one to ask for help when it gets to permissions and why is what =) 
[02:40] <libben> cause im not good at perms
[02:40] <xuniL_> okey libben
[02:41] <xuniL_> i will ask chousuke
[02:41] <jpatrick> libben: what's kbuildsycoca?
[02:41] <xuniL_> chousuke aint ET installed in right path (/usr/local/games/enemy-territory/)
[02:41] <Chousuke> that should work
[02:41] <gath> some packages depends on: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0)  or  libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3)
[02:41] <xuniL_> well i need permissions for that place
[02:41] <gath> what`s wrong? anybody can help?
[02:41] <jpatrick> xuniL_: no
[02:41] <xuniL_> ?
[02:42] <jpatrick> xuniL_: unless you want to edit it
[02:42] <xuniL_> well i whant...
[02:42] <xuniL_> i need to..
[02:42] <xuniL_> to download mapps exc
[02:43] <xuniL_> i will change it..
[02:43] <Chousuke> hmm
[02:43] <xuniL_> or shouldent i?
[02:43] <Chousuke> put sticky bit on it.
[02:43] <Chousuke> +s
[02:44] <libben> rebuilds the system configuration cache
[02:44] <Chousuke> or whatever that was.
[02:44] <libben> and i needed to fix the user also
[02:44] <libben> it was root on it, needed to be user
[02:44] <libben> and voila, now the menu works
[02:45] <jpatrick> xuniL_: can't you put the maps in your home dir?
[02:45] <gath> is there anybody here, who had an correct sources-list?
[02:45] <xuniL_> well then if i had other users not being able to use...
[02:45] <apokryphos> gath: hoary?
[02:45] <gath> breezy
[02:46] <apokryphos> gath: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:46] <libben> gath: check the breezy guid
[02:46] <gath> where should i past what?
[02:48] <gath> kann anybody send me a correkt sources.lst over DCC ?
[02:48] <libben> gath: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:48] <jpatrick> gath: copy that text into your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:49] <gath> on the end of the list?
[02:49] <jpatrick> overwrite
[02:49] <libben> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:49] <libben> gath: check there also
[02:54] <Chousuke> xuniL_: you can also change the dir owner to root:games, then give the group write privileges, and add users to that grou
[02:54] <Chousuke> group
[02:54] <xuniL_> k
[02:54] <xuniL_> i did it my way:D
[02:56] <xuniL_> got it crashing now... yay.... :(
[02:57] <xuniL_> cant move my mouse..
[02:57] <xuniL_> and just can see half of my console
[02:57] <gath> libben: while the upgrade my computer hangs
[02:57] <gath> on installing gstreamer0.8..............
[02:57] <gath> what to do?
[02:59] <Phantom^^> can someone help me mount a hard disk using the kubuntu live cd
[03:00] <Chousuke> hmm
[03:00] <Chousuke> I can't make NX work :/
[03:00] <Chousuke> says "no protocol specified"
[03:00] <xuniL_> bhaa..
[03:00] <xuniL_> now i got ET chrashed
[03:05] <gath> hallo, can`t make the breezy update and upgrade
[03:05] <gath> get some errors:
[03:05] <gath> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:05] <gath> what`s wrong?
[03:06] <jpatrick> gath: do "kdesu ksysguard"
[03:06] <gath> ok
[03:06] <jpatrick> should be a process called "apt" - kill it
[03:07] <gath> ok, one process killed
[03:07] <NeedHelp> Hi, can someone explain me how to PLay mp3 in kubunut?
[03:07] <NeedHelp> *kubuntu
[03:08] <_olwin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ;)
[03:08] <apokryphos> install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg
[03:08] <jpatrick> NeedHelp: install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe
[03:08] <NeedHelp> what's universe?
[03:08] <apokryphos> a repository -- for information on the differences of repos, /msg ubotu components
[03:09] <NeedHelp> :kornbluth.freenode.net 505 NeedHelp :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
[03:09] <gath> next error: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release:
[03:09] <gath> BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:09] <gath> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:09] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: I'm sure you can guess what to do
[03:09] <apokryphos> gath: please don't flood in here
[03:10] <NeedHelp> lol ok ;)
[03:10] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[03:11] <gath> what to do?
[03:11] <[CC] Punkrock> hey
[03:12] <NeedHelp>  /msg nickserv register 2890
[03:13] <jpatrick> haha
[03:13] <[CC] Punkrock> lol
[03:13] <xuniL_> damn almost full cpu...
[03:13] <xuniL_> average 100%
[03:14] <[CC] Punkrock> can anyone send me the netboot files for kubuntu 5.10? mine seem to be corrupt (checksum error and they're 0 bytes large...)
[03:14] <apokryphos> gath: try doing what it says
[03:14] <[CC] Punkrock> i've already redownloaded but it gives the same error
[03:14] <gath> apokryphos: what the text says?
[03:14] <[CC] Punkrock> the pxelinux.cfg and the pxelinux.0 file is all i need
[03:14] <apokryphos> gath: yup
[03:14] <gath> apokryphos: dpkg........?
[03:14] <gath> i never do this before
[03:15] <apokryphos> so?
[03:15] <xuniL_> damn... to big lagg
[03:15] <apokryphos> xuniL_: what's taking it all up?
[03:16] <xuniL_> amarokapp...
[03:16] <xuniL_> (amarok)
[03:16] <gath> apokryphos: ok make dpkg --configure -a
[03:16] <apokryphos> gath: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:16] <gath> but my computer hangs on on this step
[03:16] <xuniL_> but if i pause it and enter like Et i laggs any way..
[03:16] <apokryphos> xuniL_: ouch; what version?
[03:16] <xuniL_> 3.4.3
[03:16] <apokryphos> a few have reported that problem too; sounds like a memory leak. I thought it had been fixed...
[03:16] <xuniL_> sorry wrong
[03:16] <gath> i know in the root modus
[03:17] <libben> how do i start katapult ?
[03:17] <libben> cause it dont get started when i type katapult
[03:17] <xuniL_> its 1.3.1
[03:17] <[CC] Punkrock> Cant anyone help me?
[03:17] <gath> apokryphos: it has some problems to install gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec ein (0.8.11-0ubuntu5)
[03:17] <apokryphos> !tell libben about katapult
[03:18] <mrmarcel> hallo
[03:18] <gath> apokryphos: and the pc hangs on this step
[03:18] <apokryphos> are you actually going to use that package?
[03:18] <xuniL_> apokryphos is it that version?
[03:18] <apokryphos> what?
[03:19] <gath> i don`t know, maybe for mp3?
[03:19] <apokryphos> no, for mp3s you need gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg
[03:19] <gath> maybe i don`t need it
[03:19] <gath> so how i can delete it?
[03:19] <xuniL_> are the version of amarok 1.3.1 the one with memory leak?
[03:20] <libben> k
[03:20] <apokryphos> seems like it does potentially have one
[03:20] <apokryphos> 1.3.3 is the latest amarok release..
[03:20] <xuniL_> k
[03:20] <apokryphos> (memory link in the packaged amaroK.. not sure if the actual amaroK did)
[03:20] <xuniL_> k
[03:20] <apokryphos> Riddell: build-dep for amarok fails -- shall I bugreport?
[03:20] <NeedHelp> apokrysphos: Please help me, i am reading the guide, but it's for Ubuntu and i have kubuntu!
[03:21] <libben> katapult seems fine, but why not just do the same to alt+f2 ? if i understand this right katapult just getting the env variable to be able to quick type the programs, as in shell, but there u hit tab to complete the started word
[03:21] <xuniL_> needhelp its the same
[03:21] <apokryphos> libben: it's a lot more than that
[03:21] <Riddell> apokryphos: what's the fail?
[03:21] <NeedHelp> xuniL Ubuntu uses synaptic!
[03:22] <jpatrick> libben: katapult rocks!
[03:22] <apokryphos> Riddell: doesn't even mention it, which is annoying
[03:22] <libben> u think?
[03:22] <libben> its big and bloated =) 
[03:22] <jpatrick> how?
[03:22] <libben> but it has what i miss in alt+f2
[03:22] <apokryphos> bloated -- how exactly? Seems really lightweight to me
[03:23] <jpatrick> yeah
[03:23] <libben> why not integrate the function of tab completion or program completion on what u type. as in katapult
[03:23] <libben> when i say bloated i mean the big icons and all the gui for what its doing
[03:23] <Riddell> apokryphos: works for me
[03:23] <libben> why is not alt f2 do the same as katapult for example
[03:23] <libben> that would rock
[03:24] <gath> apokryphos: can you help, please?
[03:24] <apokryphos> Riddell: weird; I get a plain E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.
[03:24] <apokryphos> gath: not without knowing the problem
[03:24] <jpatrick> libben: Katapult can look thought folders and bookmarks
[03:24] <Riddell> apokryphos: what do you do to get that?
[03:24] <apokryphos> Riddell: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[03:25] <libben> oooh.. just noticed the folder thing
[03:25] <[CC] Punkrock> Can anyone send me netboot files "pxelinux.0 "and "pxelinux.cfg" for Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) please? they are corrupted according to my md5
[03:25] <NeedHelp> /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:25] <libben> well its nice. but a bit big... it would be fine if it was in alt f2, that would rock
[03:26] <hussam> is it possible to display emails in kmail in threaded view?
[03:26] <apokryphos> -V is as useful as ever ;-)
[03:26] <gath> apokryphos: the problem with dpkg --configure -a
[03:26] <Riddell> apokryphos: definatly works for me
[03:26] <jpatrick> libben: I think Tenor will replace it
[03:27] <apokryphos> weird -- can anyone else try sudo apt-get build-dep amarok  on breezy? Don't have to go through with the download, just see if it cops out
[03:27] <NeedHelp> how to enable universe?
[03:27] <gath> apokryphos: afer starting my computer hangs on installing gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[03:27] <federico> Hello everybody! I updated yesterday from Hoary to Breezy (did a new install), but it seems as if the Konqueror View Profiles like they used to be on Hoary disappeared? Wether I use Konqueror to surf the web or browse through the filesystem, it all looks the same, no folder tree etc in file system view. Is there a clean way to reimplement all those profiles (or how it is called?)? Google didn't give any useful answers (yet). Thanks in advance for you
[03:27] <apokryphos> gath: remove that gstreamer package as you're not using it
[03:27] <gath> and how?
[03:28] <apokryphos> gath: sudo aptitude remove gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[03:29] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the repos with "Universe"
[03:30] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: or if you're on breezy just use adept for it
[03:30] <gath> apokryphos: ok i did this
[03:30] <gath> apokryphos: (aptitude remove gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec)
[03:30] <gath> apokryphos: but the same problem
[03:30] <apokryphos> what does it say?
[03:31] <gath> the computer hang on installing gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[03:31] <NeedHelp> apokryphos breezy is the last release of kubuntu? the 5.10?
[03:31] <apokryphos> yes
[03:31] <NeedHelp> Thanks
[03:31] <gath> apokryphos: Richte gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec ein (0.8.11-0ubuntu5) ..
[03:31] <apokryphos> gath: did the aptitude remove go ok without errors?
[03:32] <gath> apokryphos: and on this point, the computer hangs
[03:32] <NeedHelp> apokryphos: i am in Adept.. But i don't Find Universe XD
[03:32] <Riddell> federico: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[03:32] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: Universe is a repository (for more information on the repo differences, /msg ubotu components). Go to Adept -> Manage Repositories
[03:32] <federico> Riddell: thank you, I'll take a look at it!
[03:32] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: enable the lines with "universe"
[03:33] <NeedHelp> :apokryphos thanks, i'll do
[03:33] <gath> apokryphos: get this error message:
[03:33] <gath> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Die Ressource ist zur Zeit nicht verfgbar)
[03:33] <apokryphos> Riddell: would be cool to have bullets at the top linking to the afaqs below I think 8)
[03:34] <apokryphos> gath: you should have mentioned that -- always mention errors in a process. Why aren't you adding the sudo before the aptitude remove? 
[03:34] <Riddell> apokryphos: patches welcome :)
[03:34] <apokryphos> will do
[03:34] <gath> apokryphos: i`m always in the root modus
[03:34] <Riddell> federico: let me know if it works by the way, I only just wrote that
[03:35] <gath> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:35] <hussam> Should I stick to Krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy or do I upgrade to 1.4.2 from kubuntu.org?
[03:35] <apokryphos> gath: ok, then close any synaptic/apt/adept processes
[03:35] <Riddell> anyone have IE able to tell me how kubuntu.org looks on it?
[03:35] <apokryphos> gath: and you shouldn't always be in root mode
[03:35] <jairbubbles> hi all
[03:35] <Riddell> hussam: upgrading should fix more things than it breaks
[03:35] <jairbubbles> everyone experiencing problems with amarok ?
[03:35] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: cpu running up?
[03:35] <gath> apokryphos: only in the bash for update and upgrade
[03:36] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: no, can't launch it
[03:36] <apokryphos> gath: make sure no apt-related things are running
[03:36] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: what's the error?
[03:36] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[03:36] <hussam> Riddell: ok thanks I'll upgrade to Krita 1.4.2 fro breezy.
[03:36] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: :/. 1.3.1?
[03:36] <hussam> Riddell:  for* breezy.
[03:37] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: yes, the weird thing is that it was working fine until i reboot
[03:38] <the_low> acpi on ibm thinkpad t23: is there any way to run a script when the machine wakes up from suspen to ram? google is not much of a help there.
[03:38] <gath> apokryphos: ok i restart the computer
[03:38] <NeedHelp> apokryphos: ok! i have enabled universe, now how to listen mp3?
[03:39] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: close all instances of amarok, then try mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrcold
[03:39] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: install akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:40] <vicks> Riddell: the mouseovereffects on the tabs looks a bit funny in IE, they flicker in the same blue color as the background when you move over and then they go back to looking like normal (not the mouseover state). my english is a bit sluggish, hope you understand what i meant
[03:43] <_aj> hi people
[03:43] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: remove/reinstall deleting amarokrc, no change !
[03:43] <hussam> is there anyway to block ads in konqueror like in firefox's adblock?
[03:44] <[CC] Punkrock> Can anyone send me netboot files "pxelinux.0 "and "pxelinux.cfg" for Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) please? they are corrupted according to my md5
[03:44] <NeedHelp> apokryphos: IT WORKS!! thanks a lot ;)
[03:44] <jpatrick> hussam: In KDE 3.5 B1 yes
[03:44] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: is there really no other output from the terminal?
[03:45] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: np =)
[03:45] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: juste before, amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[03:45] <hussam> jpatrick: but not in 3.4.3, right?
[03:45] <apokryphos> hm, nah, that's fine
[03:45] <apokryphos> I recall that crash being a known error; I thought it was fixed though..
[03:45] <jpatrick> hussam: don't think so
[03:45] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: checked bugzilla?
[03:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:46] <Riddell> vicks: ok, thanks
[03:46] <Riddell> vicks: anything else look funny?
[03:47] <freeflying> which is the best under kde to manager pictures in a DC
[03:48] <vicks> Riddell: the layout seem to be ok. oh, the kubuntu-logo on the wiki-frontpage doesn't have transparency
[03:49] <Riddell> vicks: wiki frontpage?
[03:49] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: nothing on bugzilla ....
[03:49] <vicks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
[03:49] <Riddell> vicks: oh the kubuntu logo, well I'm not fixing that, that file needs transparency
[03:50] <Riddell> vicks: thanks for your help
[03:50] <vicks> np
[03:52] <Sho_> freeflying: Digikam
[03:53] <freeflying> it dosen't works so well
[04:04] <xtacocorex> anyone have the lexmark z600 driver? the link in the howto on the forums isn't working
[04:11] <server> Q: Is there any GUI based FTP servers for linux, or GUI frontends for proftpd or any other common ftp server?
[04:15] <`Nomad> server: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gproftpd/
[04:15] <apokryphos> Riddell: http://giannaros.org/one.patch
[04:15] <paelscrit> yea the download.lexmark site seems down
[04:17] <apokryphos> Riddell: whoop, did the patch wrongly; refresh ;-)
[04:17] <xtacocorex> paelscrit: i'm trying one of the default ones on the os now just to see if it works
[04:18] <xtacocorex> paelscrit: it's initializing, but not feeding paper
[04:18] <Riddell> apokryphos: diff -u please
[04:18] <Riddell> diff without -u is ugly ugly
[04:19] <apokryphos> Riddell: ok, done
[04:19] <Freizeitkoch> [x]  5.10 done ;-)
[04:24] <federico> Hello everybody ... is there a way to get Konqueror to look in Breezy like it did in Hoary when browsing the file system, surfing and so on? The things described on http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php don't work, and I've got a mess now in Konqueror, even the url field disappeared, is there anything I can do? Thanks for your help 
[04:26] <[CC] Punkrock> Can anyone send me netboot files "pxelinux.0 "and "pxelinux.cfg" for Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) please? they are corrupted according to my md5
[04:26] <[CC] Punkrock> 0bytes large
[04:26] <[CC] Punkrock> md5 says the .cfg/default doesnt exist and that the pxelinux.0's checksum doesnt match
[04:27] <Riddell> apokryphos: changes in, many thanks
[04:27] <Phantom^^> Hey can someone help me set up an nvidia graphics card
[04:41] <m_tadeu> hello....I have 2 kernel versions and the kubuntu boot splash only shows up when I boot on the most recent...how do I set it to apear in all?
[04:41] <abbas> does any way ton install java runtime plugins for mozilla 
[04:42] <Blissex> m_tadeu: use some nice frontend to add the other kernel to the GRUB or LILO config...
[04:42] <Blissex> m_tadeu: if both your kernel versions are from a precompiled package they should both be in the menu though. If you add a kernel version manually compiled you need to manually add it to the GRUB or LILO menu files.
[04:43] <NeedHelp> Can someone help me about installing a software?
[04:43] <abbas> does any way ton install java runtime plugins for mozilla ?
[04:44] <m_tadeu> Blissex: they are...the boot splash that shows up is from ubuntu, and not from kubuntu
[04:45] <m_tadeu> Blissex: drawbacks from upgrading from kubuntu 5.1 preview
[04:46] <NeedHelp> I need help: How to install Skype?
[04:47] <APalmela> hello
[04:47] <APalmela> can anyone help me configure a priner in Kubuntu 5.10 ?
[04:48] <APalmela> I configured it but when i order to print a test page nothing appens 
[04:48] <APalmela> does anyone have the same problem ?
[04:49] <Blissex> m_tadeu: Uhm. Well, for the boot splash, there is a nice page on that in the Kubuntu Wiki somewhere. 
[04:53] <m_tadeu> Blissex: oki...thanx
[04:53] <murr> is there some package that includes small games for kde (or something)?
[04:54] <Sho_> murr: kdegames
[04:55] <murr> Sho_: ok, thanks
[04:55] <Sho_> murr: I enjoy playing Kolf, the minigolf game ;)
[04:55] <NeedHelp> ora chiedi ott
[04:56] <H2O> i need help on adept package manager
[04:56] <murr> Sho_, :)
[04:56] <H2O> i need help
[04:57] <H2O> can anyone help me out with packages?
[04:58] <H2O> i can't succesfully fetch the updates because it stops on 50%
[04:59] <H2O> waiting for headers
[04:59] <H2O> and it stops there, waiting along for the headers
[05:00] <H2O> can anyone help me out for this problem?
[05:00] <H2O> ...
[05:01] <H2O> i can't succesfully fetch the updates because it stops waiting for headers can anyone help me out for this problem?
[05:05] <Sho_> H2O: It's probably a problem with the download mirrors, just retry a little later?
[05:05] <H2O> i don't know
[05:06] <H2O> it stops there without life signal
[05:07] <Sho_> H2O: I suggest waiting half an hour and then trying again
[05:07] <H2O> ok but i have enabled all the universe and multivers servers
[05:08] <H2O> and it keeps maintain in this state
[05:08] <Sho_> H2O: Well, the servers might have a problem, or it's not related to the servers but a networking issue between you and them, etc. ... lots of possible failure points for a network connection :)
[05:08] <H2O> so i must wait a while?
[05:09] <H2O> my internet connection works well i see ^^'''
[05:09] <H2O> ok i will wait so... thanks for the help
[05:10] <H2O> thanks really a lot
[05:10] <Sho_> Well, I hope you have more success later :)
[05:10] <H2O> i couldn't figure out why it stopped
[05:10] <H2O> i hope it so! i hope it >.<
[05:11] <NeedHelp> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[05:11] <NeedHelp> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[05:11] <H2O> -.-
[05:11] <NeedHelp> la faccina 11
[05:11] <H2O> l'hai detto te di non insultare
[05:11] <NeedHelp> Sorry 4 the spam
[05:12] <H2O> ah lol
[05:19] <Eno_> i have two questions about beagle. first, when i access http://localhost:8888/beagle/search.aspx i get "Server error in '/beagle' application" "Description: Error processing request.". second, using best, when i click on the links from the results, nothing happens.
[05:19] <Eno_> how can i fix this?
[05:19] <Eno_> by the way, kubuntu is very nice, i just installed it :)
[05:20] <murr> how can i make the desktop icons smaller?
[05:20] <puckman> in kubuntu?
[05:21] <murr> no, in solaris ;)
[05:21] <puckman> oh, dont know then
[05:21] <puckman> but in kubuntu
[05:21] <puckman> its in settings
[05:21] <murr> :D
[05:21] <murr> ofcourse in kubuntu =)
[05:21] <jpatrick> under "Icons"
[05:21] <puckman> appearance
[05:21] <puckman> advanced
[05:21] <puckman> and then icons
[05:22] <puckman> man I'm sooo in love with KDE
[05:22] <puckman> Can't believe I used Gnome for so many months just  because people told me to
[05:22] <puckman> should have gone with my first choice
[05:22] <H2O> lol
[05:22] <Eno_> i was a gnome user as well
[05:22] <Eno_> at first...
[05:23] <Eno_> so no one knows about beagle?
[05:23] <puckman> it makes more sense
[05:23] <puckman> and fits a LOT better on a small 12" screen
[05:24] <murr> puckman, thanks
[05:24] <puckman> I also like the mail client, have to figure out how to get my old mail from thunderbird over
[05:24] <murr> one more question though: is there an easy way to take a screenshot?
[05:24] <puckman> as i dont want to run two mail clients
[05:24] <Hobart_> 2 quick questions... on a Mac laptop, how does a default kubuntu do middleclick and rightclick with the touchpad?
[05:25] <puckman> good question, i want to do that too
[05:25] <Eno_> ksnapshot
[05:25] <Eno_> ctrl f2, ksnapshot
[05:25] <Hobart_> Next, how do I paste multiple text lines from Konsole into Konversation? :)
[05:25] <murr> Eno_: ahh.. thanks :)
[05:25] <Eno_> it should really be bound to print-screen
[05:27] <jpatrick> Eno_: you can do Alt-Printscreen or Ctrl-Printscreen
[05:27] <adamt> is it possible to get kubuntus systems settings for other distroes?
[05:27] <puckman> ctrl print screen does nothing for me
[05:27] <jpatrick> and paste it to any image editor
[05:28] <adamt> why not just use ksnapshot for screenshots
[05:28] <Sho_> adamt: Sure, you could copy its rc files and set up the paths on $your_distro
[05:28] <puckman> yeah, just tried it, works sweet
[05:29] <puckman> would be nice to be able to invoke it with a shortcut
[05:29] <adamt> Sho_: no no, not the settings itself, but this; http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=470&slide=47
[05:29] <Sho_> ah, the app
[05:29] <adamt> yes
[05:29] <Sho_> thought you meant the profiles, toolbar setups, etc.
[05:29] <adamt> kinda a bad name :P
[05:30] <tilo2345> hello, is there by default a /root directory in kubuntu?
[05:30] <H2O> i have to ask a question
[05:30] <Sho_> tilo2345: The FAQ in the topic should have something on root in Kubuntu
[05:30] <Eno_> tilo2345: there is /root
[05:30] <adamt> H2O: just ask instead of asking if you can ask :P
[05:31] <tilo2345> thanks!
[05:31] <Sho_> adamt: Sorry, I'm not sure about the heritage of the Systems Settings app ... but then I also don't like it and switched back to KControl pretty fast
[05:31] <H2O> what i have to do if the fetch update request keeps stop
[05:32] <puckman> hey, does anyone know why the network settings icon is so low res?
[05:32] <apokryphos> Sho_: what don't you like about it?
[05:32] <puckman> its the only one
[05:32] <puckman> I noticed it in 3 different versions of kubuntu now
[05:32] <Sho_> apokryphos: I find it cumbersome to go forth and back between modules - I prefer the hierarchy treeview on the left. Also, the app seems pretty rough around the edges, e.g. loading other modules keeps changing the window geometry, which is super-annoying
[05:34] <apokryphos> I agree to an extent, though even in kcontrol these days I use icon mode
[05:34] <Sho_> apokryphos: Granted, KControl has its own share of problems, but the version in 3.5 without the tabs and the quicksearch at the top is pretty nice
[05:35] <apokryphos> kcontrol was recognised as "an issue" quite long ago, but they've only started doing something about it recently it seems
[05:35] <Sho_> yeah, I know
[05:35] <Sho_> System Settings seems like a copy of Mac OS X' System Preferences, which I really don't like very much either
[05:36] <Sho_> But I'm not complaining - I have a choice, after all :-)
[05:38] <balooo> does  anybody know if the  kubuntu  live dvd  for ppc contain  the  application kstars ,  thanks 
[05:39] <murr> how can i play mp3's on amaroK?
[05:39] <jpatrick> murr: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:40] <jpatrick> in universe
[05:40] <murr> ok thanks
[05:42] <murr> yep, works now :) thanks a lot
[05:42] <rai0d> hi
[05:42] <jpatrick> hello
[05:44] <rai0d> this rare problem
[05:44] <rai0d> this the the no mount (auto) the usb hds
[05:44] <Sho_> rai0d: Known bug. Fix soon.
[05:45] <rai0d> aaha
[05:47] <H2O> is sho online?
[05:47] <Sho_> H2O: Hm?
[05:47] <H2O> hear here
[05:47] <H2O> when the os boots
[05:48] <H2O> i read every time that the syncro eith the server time fails
[05:48] <H2O> it's the only thing that fails at the kubuntu's boot time
[05:48] <H2O> is a problem with the connection?
[05:49] <H2O> i think that this failure is linked with the other problem of fetching updates
[05:50] <H2O> cause another my friend has updated withoutproblem right now
[05:50] <H2O> and we are in the same nation with the same dns
[05:51] <Sho_> H2O: Yeah, that sounds like a problem with your internet connection
[05:51] <H2O> but i surf on the net without problems
[05:51] <Sho_> Hmm
[05:51] <H2O> i can connect to any existing site
[05:52] <puckman> so dns problems then
[05:53] <H2O> and i must wait ?_?
[05:54] <puckman> lol, sorry.
[05:54] <puckman> have you tried another dns server?
[05:54] <H2O> no cause i can't do it
[05:54] <puckman> ?
[05:54] <H2O> i can't try another host
[05:54] <puckman> not with you there
[05:55] <puckman> you can enter manualy a dns number
[05:55] <H2O> i'm not connected via adsl modem
[05:55] <H2O> but router line
[05:55] <puckman> yes so am I
[05:56] <puckman> I have an alternative dns server entry and that works
[05:56] <H2O> mh
[05:56] <H2O> but the strange is
[05:57] <Sho_> H2O: Just put another open DNS server in your /etc/resolv.conf and you'll be fine
[05:57] <puckman> yes
[05:57] <puckman> http://soa.granitecanyon.com/
[05:57] <H2O> that another friend with my equal parameters (router line, same dns and same nation) and he worked with fetch as well
[05:58] <puckman> Sorry I'm confused here, I stepped in half way.
[05:58] <puckman> you are both connected to the same router
[05:58] <puckman> annd have the same settings
[05:58] <puckman> he is fine and you're not?
[05:58] <H2O> nono
[05:58] <H2O> we aren't connected to the same router
[05:59] <H2O> but we have the same components at home
[05:59] <puckman> that means nothing
[05:59] <H2O> and in this case, the same ISP
[05:59] <wincide> hi all
[05:59] <puckman> still nothing
[05:59] <H2O> so where is tha prob
[05:59] <puckman> could be at the exchange
[05:59] <puckman> let me get this straight
[05:59] <AMIGrAve> I tried to install kubuntu on my parent's computer, there was some free space at the end of the disk but I didn't knew the bios was too old to handle read access at the end of the disk. Result: after kubuntu installation I got grub error 18. I tried to fix the mbr using the windows xp recovery crap without success. Is it possible to restore the mbr using kubuntu install disk ?
[06:00] <puckman> computer, ethernet cable
[06:00] <puckman> to a router and the router goes where?
[06:00] <H2O> adsl line
[06:00] <puckman> ok
[06:00] <puckman> the adsl line goes to a circuit at the local telephone exchange
[06:01] <puckman> and they can have a fuckup there
[06:01] <puckman> I had that a few months back
[06:01] <puckman> isp refused to admit it
[06:01] <wincide> i m looking for a way to boot ostiger with grub , but i can't,.. someone who did it ??
[06:01] <H2O> ok puckman
[06:01] <H2O> i will consider it
[06:01] <H2O> but i don't have internet connection problem
[06:01] <puckman> but I insisted, they checked and found out the exhange had a fault
[06:02] <puckman> so, in the meantime I used an open dns server
[06:02] <puckman> which worked, slightly slower
[06:02] <troth> hey i need help, my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:02] <puckman> one sec, will give you an address to try
[06:02] <H2O> k
[06:03] <H2O> i wanted only to install the mp3 codec for amarok
[06:03] <H2O> and wine
[06:03] <H2O> by the packages
[06:06] <puckman> try, 217.47.120.200
[06:06] <puckman> cant find an open one but thats mine
[06:06] <H2O> ok
[06:06] <puckman> well, my isp
[06:07] <MegaManX> Hi all :). I need a little help with a fresh install of Kubuntu. I've another computer that I use as a file server running Debian sarge. In that machine, I have Samba properly configured. I can access my files and play them on the fly with my Windows machine or my Xbox. However, from Kubuntu, I can't play my shares locally. I've to copy, say, a mp3 and run it from my Kubuntu machine/partition. How do I fix that?
[06:07] <H2O> i have to restart the connection
[06:07] <H2O> i will get back if the op goes on
[06:07] <H2O> thanx anyway
[06:08] <puckman> no problems
[06:08] <puckman> i hope it works
[06:08] <H2O> country?
[06:08] <puckman> me?
[06:08] <H2O> ye
[06:08] <puckman> uk but originaly from holland
[06:08] <puckman> and soon japan
[06:08] <puckman> :P
[06:08] <H2O> lol we are europeans then
[06:08] <puckman> u?
[06:09] <H2O> ITA
[06:09] <puckman> cool
[06:09] <puckman> i use one of your words a LOT
[06:09] <puckman> ciao
[06:09] <puckman> Love that one
[06:09] <H2O> lol ciao
[06:09] <H2O> like hello
[06:09] <H2O> :P
[06:09] <puckman> i thought it was goodbye
[06:09] <puckman> or see ya later
[06:09] <puckman> doh
[06:09] <H2O> yes it means it too
[06:09] <puckman> ah
[06:09] <troth> like aloha........
[06:09] <puckman> wow, bye and hi
[06:09] <H2O> goodbye= arrivederci  or   addio
[06:10] <H2O> cya later = ci vediamo  or ciao
[06:10] <puckman> lol, so its like YO
[06:10] <puckman> you can say that in greeting and parting
[06:10] <H2O> yeah
[06:10] <H2O> just like that ;)
[06:11] <H2O> i've been in canterbury for one week
[06:11] <puckman> and loving it
[06:11] <puckman> canterbury?
[06:11] <H2O> yeah nice place canterbury
[06:11] <puckman> never been there, stuck in london for the last 10 years
[06:11] <H2O> london is a rush hour city :D
[06:11] <puckman> cant wait to join my fiancee in japan next year
[06:11] <puckman> yup
[06:12] <troth> hey i need help, my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:12] <H2O> ok then
[06:12] <puckman> Yeah saw that troth, no idea, sorry.
[06:12] <H2O> i'm gonna try it out
[06:12] <H2O> cya later
[06:12] <H2O> ciao
[06:12] <puckman> ciao
[06:12] <troth> hmmmm
[06:12] <H2O> ^^
[06:13] <puckman> ^_^
[06:13] <puckman> he used kopete?
[06:13] <puckman> I thought kopete was for IM
[06:14] <puckman> hey troth, is there no way to do that in the gui?
[06:15] <troth> i had to do a new install, and it did it before, someone just gave me a shell fix so im not sure....
[06:15] <puckman> ah
[06:16] <puckman> know that feeling, buddy of mine helps me out but i have learned to write everything down he tells me ;)
[06:16] <kamelion> hi, I messed up my sources.list (kubuntu breezy), could someone give me the standard list please?
[06:16] <troth> ya not bad advice
[06:17] <puckman> I only remember stuff I do lots of times, so a one off fix at install i will forget 6 months down the line
[06:17] <puckman> have you done a search?
[06:17] <troth> ya i did the first time i went through this, ill try again
[06:17] <_chris> hi, if I installed the kde 3.4.91 beta and try to upgrade to ubuntu 5.10 what will happen?
[06:18] <_chris> should I just leave the beta repository available and then breezy will keep the beta kde installed?
[06:18] <puckman> troth: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=change+sound+source+kubuntu+terminal&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:18] <puckman> that gives tons of links about messing in terminal regarding sound
[06:19] <troth> thx
[06:21] <tolonuga> Hi. I have trouble with the kubuntu kernel and my network cards, so I did what I'm used to: compile a kernel from vanilla source and put the files into place, edit menu.lst etc. here is my question: ubunto uses an initrd by default. Can I savely skip that one (my kernel includes all drivers I need)?
[06:22] <kamelion> so, noone wants to send me a standard sources.list?
[06:23] <Sho_> kamelion: What's wrong with the one you already have?
[06:24] <kamelion> it got replaced by one for hoary
[06:24] <kamelion> and I'm using breezy
[06:24] <`Nomad> SOmething seems to have messed up my mime types.. I sthere a quick fix for that, like a new list of defaults
[06:25] <`Nomad> kamelion: I think that all you have to do is change the word hoary to breezy, if I remember correctly
[06:25] <kamelion> I tried that, but then I get 404's
[06:25] <`Nomad> oh
[06:25] <Sho_> kamelion: Hold on a sec, I'm booting my Breezy box ..
[06:25] <`Nomad> Then there's a list in the FAQ, that,s where I took mine
[06:25] <kamelion> ok, thank you
[06:26] <jairbubbles> is someone experiencing problems withamarok, I can't launch it anymore
[06:26] <`Nomad> !mime
[06:26] <ubotu> Wish i knew, `Nomad
[06:28] <kamelion> jairbubbles: any errors?
[06:28] <Sho_> kamelion: http://www.eikehein.com/sources.list
[06:29] <kamelion> Sho_: ok, thanks a lot!
[06:29] <Sho_> kamelion: Oh, and you should remove the '#' in front of the last two lines
[06:29] <kamelion> ok
[06:30] <kamelion> Sho_: thanks, now I can update again ;)
[06:31] <Sho_> np :)
[06:32] <SbCl3> where is the amarok-xine package?
[06:41] <troth> ne1 know how to change my sound source? my webcam is listed as my output sound device?
[06:45] <Originoo> SbCl3: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:48] <ThOR27> exit
[06:50] <iface> hey guys... when i open 'system settings' -> sharing -> fileshares, there is a notification to be root to change something. you can press a botton , enter the password but nothing happens... does anybody now about this?
[06:51] <warlock> anyone know how to edit the bootloader?
[06:52] <slow-motion> bbl
[06:53] <warlock> anyone?
[06:53] <iface> warlock, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <_admin> hallo leute, ist da jemand?
[06:56] <iface> hey guys... when i open 'system settings' -> sharing -> filesharing, there is a notification to must be root to change something. you can press the admin button, enter the password but nothing happens... does anybody now about this?
[06:57] <_admin>   ?
[06:57] <_admin>      
[06:58] <warlock> Thank you iface.. Now does anyone know how to lode (god i hate to say this) Windoez under kubuntu?
[06:58] <warlock> Iface yes I got the same problem.. started using the run command with the root options set.. works great
[06:58] <troth> my webcam is being read as my default output sound rather than my soundcard, can someone help me change please
[06:58] <Ayide1> On a fresh kubuntu install what all do I need extra (thats not already included) to be able to compile a driver into my running kernel?
[07:00] <Ayide1> I do not need to compile a new kernel only get my modem to work with the drivers I already have
[07:00] <warlock> Ayide you need the cvs tools and the kernel tool.. check under adapt to see if they are listed
[07:01] <Ayide1> normally I would just install the sources and that would be it but it appears that kubuntu isnt to extra module/driver friendly
[07:01] <Ayide1> : ( I cant run apt-get....my modem doesnt work *(lol)
[07:01] <Ayide1> im on a windows PC
[07:01] <warlock> I think they didnt add the tools.. it could be just that.. did you google for a .deb package for your driver?
[07:02] <Ayide1> okay but I need the cvs tools and the kernel tool
[07:02] <Ayide1> does anyone know what packages they are called?
[07:03] <warlock> only if you cant get the driver.. you can always go to apt-get.org and search for the tools and driver , then transfer them in a usb disk to the kubuntu system
[07:03] <warlock> IFACE: did you try the run command?
[07:03] <Ayide1> ill go check for a kubuntu pacage brb
[07:04] <warlock> :)
[07:04] <warlock> AFK
[07:04] <iface> yeah, but didnt work
[07:04] <Ayide1> then IF i can find them I can download the tools much easier
[07:04] <Ayide1> im comming from mepis and slackware so im used to just haveing them : )
[07:05] <iface> you meant ALT-F1 -> run -> systemsettings?
[07:06] <Ayide1> I like kubuntus eye candey and the fact that they have kde 3.4 working great which I got really annoyed with *(lol)
[07:06] <frahi> Is there a nice gui to configure a wpa wlan network?
[07:06] <troth> my webcam is being read as my default output sound rather than my soundcard, can someone help me change please
[07:07] <warlock> Iface: K-Menu - run-command, then choose options and run as diffrent user, root, password. if you need to go to the icon of the program your trying to run and do properties on it to get the correct file name
[07:07] <Ayide1> they have a package for ubuntu 5.04 could that work???
[07:07] <Ayide1> with 5.10?
[07:08] <warlock> Troth: did you disconnect you webcam and reboot? the hardware manager may find the problem
[07:08] <troth> ill try now brb
[07:08] <Ayide1> is there much differnce in the file layout between 5.04 and 5.10?
[07:08] <warlock> Ayide: give it a shot.. if it dosent then uninstall. cant hurt! :)
[07:08] <warlock> Ayide: not that I have seen
[07:09] <iface> warlock, nothing happens -
[07:09] <iface> no window, no message
[07:09] <warlock> Iface?? what are you trying to run?
[07:09] <iface> systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[07:10] <iface> what did you run?
[07:10] <warlock> ok if you open system settings what program are you trying to run?
[07:10] <Ayide1> crap.. its for kernel 2.6.10.... isnt there a problem with the way it handels pci devices and the newer 2.6.12 and 13 kernels?
[07:10] <Ayide1> I might still have to install from source : (
[07:10] <Ayide1> ill try this though
[07:11] <Ayide1> but I think i know what error ill get : (
[07:11] <warlock> Ayide: whats the driver for?
[07:11] <Ayide1> brb *(lol)
[07:11] <iface> sharing -> filesharing
[07:11] <Ayide1> hsf conexant modem
[07:11] <Ayide1> sux but its what i got 
[07:11] <Ayide1> and since there are drivers for it its all I need
[07:11] <iface> warlock, sharing -> filesharing
[07:12] <warlock> Ayide , give it a shot.. :) let us know! you might get lucky?
[07:12] <warlock> Iface: hold on..
[07:12] <Ayide1> well if it doesnt work ill be abck later asking about what I need for source again ha ha ha
[07:12] <iface> sure
[07:12] <Ayide1> yeah I hope so
[07:12] <Ayide1> downloading right now
[07:12] <Ayide1> AFK
[07:12] <paelscrit> hmm any help with setting up my internet connection?
[07:13] <paelscrit> i didnt have a router when i installed kubuntu and now that I have one im having problems setting it up
[07:13] <paelscrit> the options in network settings are grey/unselectable.. it says disabled ethernet network device but I cant click "enable device" to enable it
[07:14] <paelscrit> theres no adminstrator mode button either
[07:14] <warlock> Iface: what kubuntu are you using?
[07:14] <iface> warlock, 5.10
[07:15] <iface> but i had the same problem with my old one 5.04. (i did a complete new install, with formatting) no upgrade
[07:15] <warlock> iface: did you setup samba?
[07:15] <iface> nope, where to do this?
[07:15] <xavier_> anyone know where i could go f'r wireless pcmcia troubles in 5.10?
[07:16] <warlock> palescrit: what router did you buy? or try to setup?
[07:16] <warlock> xaviet: internet - k-wifi.
[07:16] <paelscrit> linksys NR041
[07:16] <paelscrit> cable/dsl wired router
[07:16] <warlock> did you setup the router for DHCP
[07:17] <paelscrit> no i thought it was set up dhcp by default
[07:17] <paelscrit> my windows box is connecting fine
[07:18] <warlock> palescrit: dont belive it.. it probable has to be turned on and given a ip range
[07:18] <paelscrit> okay.. i guess i need to install the software that came with router
[07:18] <warlock> iface: use adapt and find the samba package. you should be fine from there.
[07:19] <warlock> palescrit: just check the manuel, it will tell you how to enter the router from your web browser and make changes
[07:19] <Ayide1> does adpet have more features than synaptic or is it the same just a differnt interface?
[07:20] <xavier_> warlock: what's internet -k-wifi mean?
[07:20] <Ayide1> adept**
[07:20] <warlock> Ayide: diffrent, i use both.. LOL
[07:20] <aftertaf> Ayide1: a different prog for kde, doesnt need gtk & gnome stuff
[07:20] <aftertaf> Ayide1: for now less functionality, but it has a lot of promise :)
[07:21] <warlock> xavier, click the "K" go up to the Internet section and look for K-WIFI program. if its not there you will need to install it with adapt
[07:21] <paelscrit> ugh
[07:21] <xavier_> warlock: ah -- thanks
[07:21] <warlock> ugh?
[07:22] <warlock> no problem xavier!
[07:22] <paelscrit> well i guess i should restart kubunutu for changes to take effect then?
[07:23] <warlock> palescrit what did you do?
[07:23] <paelscrit> i made sure dhcp was enabled
[07:23] <_john> hey, how do you get it so there is no shadow behind the text on the desktop, but rather a black border like in the old kubuntu?
[07:24] <paelscrit> then i put it on obtain ip automatically
[07:24] <paelscrit> then hit apply
[07:24] <_john> And when you select an icon on the desktop, can you get it so it has that block of color behind the text?
[07:24] <paelscrit> dhcp was already set to enable though
[07:24] <warlock> you might also have to tell it to clone the mac address of your network card.. you will probably have to restart the router and your system for it to pick up the new dhcp connection
[07:24] <paelscrit> okay
[07:25] <paelscrit> on my windows box it said a network cable is unplugged then it switched back on
[07:25] <warlock> john: check you settings for the aperance manager.
[07:26] <warlock> ok im out to experiment more.. later!
[07:27] <chimaera> hi. anyone havinh troubles with media:/? neither my usb-flash nor my IEEE1394 are detected (they work fine manually). 
[07:28] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know where (or if) usplash writes logs?  I'm trying to figure out why it barfs out back to straight text mode after "Loading modules".
[07:29] <paelscrit> hmm it seems to freeze on detecting your current platform
[07:30] <xavier_> why would my wireless nic(uses ndiswrapper) make me run dhclient every 30 secs?
[07:31] <chimaera> oh, just read the topic. seems there _are_ issues with hal.
[07:31] <DarthFrog> xavier_: sounds like a bug, perhaps in the DHCP server lease time.
[07:32] <xavier_> darthfrog: would that be a router problem, cause all other wifi devices in the house 're fine
[07:33] <paelscrit> i think im going to just re-install kubuntu and see if it detects my connection then
[07:33] <paelscrit> it may be quicker then trying to figure this out
[07:34] <DarthFrog> xavier_: I'm on wifi right now, using wpa_supplicant.  Works fine for me.  Are your other wifi devices using DHCP?
[07:34] <DarthFrog> And can you swap out the problem child for a wireless NIC that doesn't require ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <xavier_> darthfrog: everything 's using dhcp, 'n' both cards i have are ndis dependant
[07:36] <DarthFrog> xavier_: Same card?
[07:37] <xavier_> one's a linksys, other's a 3com, but i've never gotten the 3com to work in linux
[07:37] <DarthFrog> Does the Linksys give the same problem in Windows?
[07:37] <xavier_> nope
[07:37] <DarthFrog> THen it's not a router problem.
[07:37] <xavier_> i thought it was acpi disabling the pcmcia slot 'r something like that
[07:37] <xavier_> could that be?
[07:38] <DarthFrog> Well, turn off ACPI and try it. :-)
[07:38] <DarthFrog> Also check your DCHP lease time.
[07:38] <xavier_> i turned acpi off in the control panel, but same problem
[07:39] <DarthFrog> is "noacpi" in your grub script kernel boot line?
[07:39] <xavier_> nope
[07:40] <DarthFrog> That would turn ACPI off at boot.
[07:40] <xavier_> also, when i dmesg i sometimes get a comlaint about no IPv6 servers, could that be a problem?
[07:40] <DarthFrog> Nope.
[07:41] <DarthFrog> You can ignore that message.
[07:41] <kkathman> Greetings all :)
[07:41] <xavier_> k, i'll try the noacpi, thanks
[07:41] <DarthFrog> Your welcome.  I don't think it'll help, though.
[07:41] <DarthFrog> But don't know for sure, either. :)
[07:41] <xavier_> yea, me neither, but 's worth a shot
[07:45] <chimaera> i have a MX900 mouse (bluetooth). it is detected and working, but not all buttons trigger events (xev). 
[07:48] <gibarian> hey everyone....is the hal media:/ thing going to be resolved soon?
[07:50] <sampan> gibarian, is that the bug for when konq brings up an error about "media sda does not exist" when i plug in my usbdisk?
[07:50] <sampan> or something else?
[07:50] <puckman> silly question but where can I change that i have to double click on files for them to open
[07:50] <puckman> its confusing the crap out of me that files just open when I click on them
[07:51] <gibarian> sampan: no, it's about KDE not automatically recognizing USB stuff and popping up an icon on the desktop
[07:52] <sampan> oh, well i sorta assumed those were the same thing -- my fresh breezy does actually let me browse (cli or konq) to the usb drives, but you're right, it doesn't pop up the icon on the desktop
[07:52] <_xavier> darthfrog: strange, i just installed dhcpcd and it seems to work flawless now
[07:53] <coruja> puckman: take a look into the mouse settings in kcontrol/systemsettings
[07:54] <puckman> cheers coruja
[07:56] <puckman> worked, great!
[07:56] <libben> how do i kill a program
[07:56] <puckman> choke it?
[07:56] <puckman> poison it?
[07:56] <libben> im trying to kill ./kaid and it has pid 8876
[07:56] <libben> but just typing sudo kill 8876 wont do it
[07:56] <libben> its still alive
[07:56] <xuniL_> or you can use the command ctrl+alt+esc
[07:57] <xuniL_> and press on the thing that crashed
[07:57] <puckman> eeek
[07:57] <puckman> that looks scary
[07:57] <_olesya_> eeeeeeeek
[07:57] <puckman> little skull
[07:57] <coruja> libben: try 'kill -9 <pid>' if a process refuses to terminate
[07:57] <paelscrit> okay re-installing kubuntu
[07:57] <libben> what is -9 ?
[07:57] <libben> force like ?
[07:58] <coruja> yes
[07:58] <coruja> try maybe 'man kill' also :)
[08:02] <sampan> where does katapault look for programs to run?  just curious since it doesn't seem to know of programs i've newly installed 
[08:02] <sampan> seems like a wonderful addition though -- very handy if i can get it to know of all my regularly used apps
[08:06] <coruja> sampan: i suppose katapult uses also your $PATH environment (try 'echo $PATH' to get the dirs listed where to look for executables)
[08:06] <qatsi> ahhh im sick of it, can anyone point me to a guide or something so i can learn everything about themes and stuff in kde ?
[08:08] <sampan> coruja, that's what i assumed too.  but i installed nethack and it's in /usr/games  which is in my path, yet katapault doesn't find it.  same with firestarter /usr/sbin/  but again, katapault doesn't find it
[08:09] <sampan> same is true for sylpheed
[08:09] <sampan> pan
[08:09] <sampan> boot up manager
[08:10] <coruja> are these executables that need to be run as root maybe?
[08:10] <sampan> firestarter should be ... but sylpheed/pan/nethack are just normal apps
[08:10] <sampan> i can start them all via kmenu and cli just fine
[08:10] <coruja> hmm, ok
[08:11] <coruja> i don't know much about katapult, maybe someone else can help you ;)
[08:11] <sampan> *nod*  i'll hang out and ask around :)  
[08:11] <sampan> i really like the katapault idea ... i hate taking my hands off the keys to mouse through the GUI if i don't have to ... so i want it to work with all my apps :D
[08:13] <Riddell> sampan: katapult only finds programs with a .desktop file
[08:14] <Riddell> which all graphical programs should really
[08:14] <sampan> ahhhhhhhhh, well nethack is console/text only ... but the others are graphical.  can i manually create .desktop files for programs i use a lot?  
[08:14] <sampan> or is that gonna be way over my head?
[08:14] <sampan> :D
[08:16] <sampan> firestarter does have a .desktop file but it's not in my path /usr/share/gnome/apps/Internet/firestarter.desktop
[08:16] <libben> anyone running kai here ? kaid is the program called ... its for kai and xbmc
[08:16] <Milktea> Does anyone here use Wine with WoW?
[08:18] <sampan> riddell, same situation a with  pan ... same location ... if i just add /usr/share/gnome/apps/ to my PATH will katapult find it? 
[08:18] <Riddell> sampan: it needs a freedesktop compliant XDG .desktop menu file, looks like firestarted still has an old-style gnome one
[08:18] <Riddell> PATH won't change anything
[08:18] <sampan> ahhh okay :/
[08:19] <Riddell> feel free to submit fixes to MOTU
[08:19] <Milktea> Does anyone here use Wine with WoW?
[08:19] <Milktea> (sorry for the repeat, I lagged)
[08:19] <sampan> i only wish i knew how to fix things :D
[08:20] <sampan> usually i do a good job of breaking them though
[08:21] <sampan> riddell  thanks for answering my questions though -- much obliged
[08:21] <qatsi> ok, while installing baghira theme, this error poped...checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check 
[08:21] <qatsi> ideas ?
[08:21] <Riddell> qatsi: installing or compiling?
[08:22] <qatsi> Riddell: well, i suppose its compilling, because i downloaded the sources and i was running all commands, actually this error ocurred while doing ./configure
[08:22] <Riddell> qatsi: there is a baghira package you can compile
[08:24] <qatsi> Riddell: uhmm, i remember installing baghira with adept, but now i cant find it, maybe repositories are "funky"
[08:24] <`Nomad> I tried the original kwin-baghira, but it seemed incomplete..
[08:25] <`Nomad> kwin-baghira
[08:25] <`Nomad> so i followed the instructions here if it helps..  http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.shtml#step6
[08:25] <qatsi> baghira is the mac-look like theme right ?
[08:25] <`Nomad> yes
[08:26] <qatsi> Nomad, thanx for the page...ill follow the instructions
[08:26] <Riddell> kwin-baghira works for me in breezy
[08:26] <jpatrick> qatsi: Baghira works fine
[08:26] <qatsi> Riddell and Nomad great, ill check it out....ill come back if anything goes wrong :) c ya ! thanx.........
[08:26] <`Nomad> I never used the CVS method, I just compiled from source
[08:27] <qatsi> jpatrick: thanx to you too :)
[08:27] <qatsi> see you later !
[08:28] <slow-motion> re
[08:36] <qatsi> Riddell: back already :p
[08:37] <qatsi> i need to install via cvs ....never used them, actually never heard of em :p but. The thing is i need a module or somehting to install via cvs, right ???which one is it ?
[08:38] <Riddell> qatsi: what are you wanting to install?
[08:38] <qatsi> baghira
[08:39] <qatsi> Riddell: uhmmm, i could just apt-get install kwin-bghira right ?
[08:41] <Tm_T> qatsi: right
[08:41] <qatsi> Tm_T ok, thanx, ill do it
[08:41] <Riddell> qatsi: yes
[08:41] <Rotan> hi!
[08:42] <Sho_> Riddell: Is there a discussion somewhere on the HAL trouble?
[08:43] <Riddell> Sho_: only lots of people complaining that it doesn't work and the occational response by me saying that it'll be fixed soon
[08:43] <Riddell> hello Rotan 
[08:43] <Rotan> what's HAL?
[08:43] <Sho_> Riddell: ah ... I was wondering what exactly broke
[08:44] <Riddell> Sho_: the patch broke and didn't pick up hal 0.5 in the last minute update to kde 3.4.3
[08:44] <Riddell> Rotan: the computer in 2001: A Space Odessey
[08:44] <Sho_> The 0.5x compatibility patch being a backport from 3.5?
[08:44] <stodge> Any ideas what installing superkaramba also install gtk 1.2?
[08:44] <stodge> (what = why)
[08:45] <Riddell> Sho_: yes
[08:45] <Riddell> stodge: it depends on gtk (no idea why though)
[08:46] <stodge> Completely odd!
[08:46] <Riddell> stodge: oh, it's xmmsd
[08:46] <Riddell> xmms
[08:46] <stodge> superkaramba is dependant on xmms ?
[08:46] <stodge> Weird
[08:47] <SbCl3> i'm finding adept very slow to kynaptic, and it is because it tries to match description with a search; is there a way to search and only search for matching names?
[08:47] <stodge> And another question - why when I try to remove OpenOffice through adept does it say that KDE DEsktop will also be removed? :P
[08:48] <qatsi> ok, i need help with keyboard layouts in kubuntu. When i first log in to kubuntu, i had to do it via console, because i could not write a thing, just squares :p.....had the same issue in kubuntu, but when i changed the keyboard layout to my own, everything worked just fine, except the log in......is there a way i could fix this ?
[08:49] <Juerd> stodge: Yes.
[08:49] <Juerd> stodge: kubuntu-desktop is a package that depends on a lot of other packages, for easy installation.
[08:50] <Juerd> stodge: If you remove one of those, you can no longer benefit from the preselected bundle, because you choose to go your own way.
[08:50] <_wayne> could someone help me with sound problems?  total noob here
[08:50] <stodge> I just dont need OpenOffice
[08:50] <Juerd> stodge: Doing so will make future upgrades harder.
[08:50] <stodge> Ah ok
[08:51] <Juerd> stodge: It's part of what you get :) If you don't like what you get, do feel free to remove some of it. Just know that from then on, you will have to decide for yourself what you want.
[08:52] <stodge> Ok thanks for the info
[08:52] <elcuco> is anyone else experiencing coredumps on Kdevelop3 on Breeze?
[08:52] <Juerd> It's breezy
[08:53] <elcuco> oops :)
[08:54] <che_benway> hi all. just a quick question. might seem silly to ask. 
[08:54] <che_benway> I currently have the old version of Kubuntu. Why can't I simply upgrade to the new version instead of downloading the whole CD?
[08:55] <Riddell> che_benway: you can
[08:56] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:56] <che_benway> can I? I said it might sound silly cause I am new at this
[08:56] <DarthFrog>    Does anyone know where (or if) usplash writes logs?  I'm trying to figure out why it barfs out back to straight text mode after "Loading modules".
[08:56] <che_benway> thanks a million Riddel
[08:57] <_wayne> could someone help me with sound problems?  total noob here
[09:03] <regeya> I'll have to torrent breezy tomorrow at work, I suppose
[09:03] <regeya> or...wait.../me sees topic
[09:11] <regeya> not much action in #kubuntu-es
[09:16] <Firetech> what exactly does "pending" mean?
[09:18] <stodge> Is there a package for the win32 movie codecs?
[09:19] <seth_k|lappy> Firetech, what context?
[09:19] <Firetech> seth_k|away: topic.
[09:19] <seth_k|lappy> stodge, w32codecs but you will have to get it elsewhere. It's not in Ubuntu's repos
[09:19] <iface> what does that mean? "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)" ?
[09:20] <seth_k|lappy> Firetech, they haven't been committed to breezy-updates repo yet
[09:20] <Firetech> ok
[09:20] <BurgerMann> Hi, isn't there an app that can run as daemon listning for mails?
[09:20] <Firetech> they are made then?
[09:20] <stodge> ok thanks
[09:20] <Firetech> BurgerMann: like korn?
[09:21] <seth_k|lappy> I use Superkaramba + Fantastik as my mail listener
[09:21] <Firetech> korn is not a daemon though, more like a systray thingie
[09:21] <BurgerMann> Firetech: would be fine :)
[09:21] <iface> i tried to mount smb-shares with smb4k and i got the following error: "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)"
[09:22] <iface> what does it mean?
[09:22] <BurgerMann> Firetech: exactly what I need. Thanks
[09:26] <iface> nobody knows something about that?
[09:26] <bestdoud> salut
[09:28] <seth_k|lappy> salut bestdoud, vous voulez #kubuntu-fr je pense
[09:30] <paelscrit> yay
[09:30] <paelscrit> i got my internet connection working
[09:30] <seth_k|lappy> awesome
[09:33] <iface> i tried to mount smb-shares with smb4k and i got the following error: "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)"
[09:33] <iface> what does that mean?
[09:35] <Blissex> iface: that a certain Samba program must be able to run with super user privileges if normal users are to be allowed to mount arbitrary shares, which is not necessarily a good idea.
[09:35] <iface> why?
[09:37] <XxTJxX>  i just successfully installed breezy, and now the system sounds are a very low volumes, and my dvd drive you cant hear an audio cd, but my other cd drive you can hear it play
[09:37] <XxTJxX> (at very low volume again)
[09:38] <_jg> hallo
[09:38] <Blissex> iface: because of some small security concerns -- it is possible to put things on a remote share that are not good locally.
[09:38] <_jg> bin neu bei kubuntu
[09:39] <_jg> oh sorry, i'm new at kubuntu
[09:40] <seth_k|lappy> _jg, what would you like help with? :)
[09:41] <_jg> with my adsl connection :-)
[09:41] <seth_k|lappy> uh oh :P adsl
[09:41] <_jg> i got it configured, but i have to do it always again
[09:42] <seth_k|lappy> _jg, each time you boot up?
[09:42] <iface> hmm, i think i can ignore this for my purposes. but how to fix the error?
[09:43] <_jg> yeah! I cant even use the kde configuration tools. The eth0 is allways off. Even now!!! ;-)
[09:44] <iface> _jg, try in console "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> HELP!
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> my katapult stop working
[09:44] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: what stopped?
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> when i press alt+space it doesn't work
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i don't know
[09:44] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: alt+F2  katapult  enter
[09:44] <_jg> well, it works after using pppoeconf. But when I boot again, I need to do it from beginning
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ??
[09:44] <kinfo> what?
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: what ?
[09:45] <Juerd> How often does katapult's rubber band need replacement?
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> alt f2?
[09:45] <Juerd> :P
[09:45] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: just run katapult again
[09:45] <Riddell> Juerd: how do you mean?
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> what is alt-F2
[09:45] <Juerd> Riddell: Surely with intensive use, it must stretch and lose elasticity.
[09:45] <seth_k|lappy> the alt key, and the F2 function key
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> yeah i know
[09:46] <seth_k|lappy> alt-F2 is the "Run Program" shortcut
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i mean what is the reaction to that key combination
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ah.. i modified 
[09:46] <seth_k|lappy> it's the same as clicking K Menu > Run Program
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> win+r
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> :P
[09:46] <Blissex> iface: use 'sudo chmod u+s' on the 'smbmnt' executable
[09:46] <seth_k|lappy> ack you windows user :P
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> :P
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> yeah, i have been for long time
[09:46] <Juerd> When customizing, it's always good to leave the defaults as secondary keys
[09:46] <Juerd> Then, users not used to your preferences can also use your computer
[09:46] <Riddell> Juerd: if you drag in konqueror's file select mode you'll see the new rubber band does ware away quickly on large selections
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ok 
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> my fault
[09:47] <Juerd> Riddell: grin :)
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i taught that it was autoexecuted in kde 
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> as soon as installed :P
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: tnx
[09:48] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: can i change the key combination of katapult?
[09:48] <Juerd> Oh, I cannot wait to install kubuntu on my mac
[09:48] <Juerd> I'm burning the iso right now.
[09:49] <iface> Blissex, sure to do this on smbmnt? I cant locate it
[09:49] <seth_k|lappy> btw, kuake is fun; I command you all to use it
[09:49] <Juerd> seth_k|lappy: What is it?
[09:49] <seth_k|lappy> Juerd, it is a dropdown console
[09:49] <seth_k|lappy> Juerd, looks like the console in FPS games like Quake
[09:49] <Blissex> iface: should be '/usr/bin/smbmnt'
[09:50] <Blissex> iface: in any case 'dpkg -S smbmnt' should find it.
[09:50] <quam> adept is the replacement for kynaptic?
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ehi?
[09:50] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: yes, run alt+space then control-c
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> and for synaptics both
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: TNX!!!
[09:50] <paelscrit> can someone tell me how you find packages off the net within kubuntu
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> see ya!
[09:50] <paelscrit> adept seems to just list a few things from my cd
[09:51] <iface> thx, its done. but i can mount my share, but it seems that's its instantly broken?!
[09:51] <quam> paelscrit: edited your sources?
[09:52] <paelscrit> no
[09:52] <quam> heh
[09:52] <paelscrit> is that manage repositories
[09:52] <wotnarg> is there any way to make it so that if I click a link in other programs, it opens in a new tab in konq? It just opens a new konq window atm.
[09:53] <quam> yeah
[09:53] <quam> i don't want to tell you something wrong, so check the repositories stuff in the wiki :P
[09:53] <paelscrit> in konqueror options theres a place to check open links in new tab instead of new window
[09:53] <paelscrit> it was checked by default for me
[09:54] <wotnarg> yea, but does that work for external calls to konq?
[09:54] <paelscrit> oh
[09:54] <paelscrit> probably not
[09:54] <Ravensky> hey, I only have official ubuntu repos in my list. What else should I add?
[09:54] <wotnarg> hrm, seems there was an option for that. Lemme see if it works now :)
[09:55] <wotnarg> nerp
[09:55] <wotnarg> *mutter*
[09:55] <quam> ravensky, i added universe/multiverse to all my stuff
[09:57] <richard_> i need some help
[09:57] <Ravensky> well, what's a repo that I can find limewire in? :P
[09:58] <richard_> im trying to find the repository that has bashira in
[09:58] <Ravensky> and azureus
[09:58] <Ravensky> and Sun's Java
[09:58] <richard_> can anyone help me
[09:59] <paelscrit> anyone used klik ?
[10:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ravensky about javadeb
[10:02] <regeya> paelscrit: yes, and I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is.
[10:02] <regeya> every klik install I've tried has been--without fail--a deb.  whoo, a web interface for installing debs.
[10:07] <paelscrit> im going to install it
[10:09] <libben> http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=575.msg2674#msg2674
[10:09] <paelscrit> wow thats cool
[10:09] <paelscrit> theres a bunch of apps for klik on the site
[10:10] <paelscrit> im getting 3d chess
[10:10] <paelscrit> heh
[10:10] <paelscrit> i get an error though
[10:11] <paelscrit> awesome
[10:11] <felly> hmm a bunch of my gtk-based apps are crashing
[10:11] <felly> since upgrading to breezy via apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:12] <felly> including acrobat reader, evolution, and eclipse
[10:12] <paelscrit> it gives me an error with no error message
[10:13] <humbolt> does anybody know about alps glidepoint status in breezy?
[10:14] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, mine works
[10:14] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, even tapping... but not scrolling
[10:14] <quam> mine is really sensitive
[10:14] <Pixels-> felly: any errors?
[10:14] <Pixels-> or do they just exit.
[10:15] <quam> i'd like the ability to turn tapping off and just use the actual buttons
[10:15] <paelscrit> ha.. all my klik installs give me errors
[10:15] <paelscrit> nice
[10:18] <felly> Pixels-: yes, i will run them right now
[10:19] <humbolt> seth_k|lappy: what is in your xorg.conf? how best to configure?
[10:19] <Pixels-> okay
[10:20] <felly> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080ddf28 ***
[10:20] <felly> evolution starts normally, but if i go to prefs, i get that error
[10:21] <libben> anyone knows how i get my pipe char back? im on swedish layout and with basic rule. in the regional settings, in system settings.
[10:21] <felly> run eclipse, crashes just before workspace opens
[10:21] <felly> # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
[10:21] <felly> #
[10:21] <felly> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb7889467, pid=13274, tid=2991193008
[10:22] <felly> #
[10:22] <felly> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.5.0_05-b05 mixed mode, sharing)
[10:22] <felly> # Problematic frame:
[10:22] <felly> # V  [libjvm.so+0x259467] 
[10:22] <apokryphos> felly: don't flood the channel please
[10:22] <felly> how do i print that error message without flooding?
[10:22] <quam> pastebin
[10:22] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:23] <Riddell> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:23] <Pixels->  ubuntu (n=ubuntu@p54A25815.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #kubuntu
[10:24] <regeya> !start an editor war
[10:24] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:24] <ubotu> gvim is better than xemacs
[10:24] <felly> well anyway, i am using sun's jre just like i always have
[10:24] <regeya> there's the bot
[10:24] <felly> and i am using eclipse from eclipse.org not kubuntu repositories
[10:24] <felly> so i'm not sure what's changed, it's frustrating
[10:25] <regeya> felly, let me know if you get that working :>
[10:25] <Pixels-> oops ubotu is the bot
[10:25] <Pixels-> lol
[10:25] <Milktea> I'm using a laptop, and every time I push the moniter down
[10:25] <felly> regeya : similar issues?
[10:25] <Milktea> X seems to die
[10:25] <Milktea> and I half to alt+f2 to get a ___ login:
[10:25] <Milktea> have*
[10:25] <Milktea> anyone know why? T_T
[10:25] <quam> turn hibernation/standby/suspend off
[10:26] <Milktea> thanks
[10:26] <quam> should be in acpi settings
[10:26] <Milktea> kk
[10:26] <Milktea> also
[10:26] <Milktea> where would I find KDE styles
[10:26] <felly> also i can't seem to run katapult
[10:26] <quam> kde-look.org
[10:26] <Milktea> thanks
[10:26] <felly> alt + space does nothing
[10:27] <Milktea> and where is acpi settings? ^_^;;
[10:27] <quam> click on the k application launcher, it's in system settings
[10:27] <quam> click on laptops and power, at the tabs at the top, go all the way to the right
[10:28] <Milktea> thanks
[10:28] <Milktea> All of the boxes here
[10:28] <Milktea> are grayed out
[10:29] <_erik> you need to be in admistrator mode
[10:29] <Milktea> oh
[10:29] <Milktea> How do I run an app as root?
[10:29] <regeya> .
[10:29] <paelscrit> thers not a button that says adminstrator mode?
[10:29] <Milktea> no..
[10:29] <Milktea> I'm on Hoary, if that makes a differnce
[10:29] <Milktea> difference*
[10:29] <paelscrit> oh
[10:30] <paelscrit> yea i dont know then
[10:30] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it should be 'start helper application'
[10:30] <Milktea> oh thanks
[10:30] <Milktea> standby/suspend/hibernate are all off already
[10:30] <xtacocorex> Milktea: of course, i have the problem on my laptop when i close the monitor, i have to hit ctr+alt+f2 to get back to X
[10:31] <Milktea> oh
[10:31] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i don't know why that is though, in your case it should be ctr+alt+f7
[10:31] <Milktea> hmm"?
[10:32] <douglas> How did people here install jre5, I just want a simple package to install, but I can't seem to find the appropriate package in the default repositories?
[10:32] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it just gets you back to the X server, hitting ctr+alt+f[1-6]  it takes you to a virtual terminal
[10:32] <Milktea> oh
[10:32] <quam> i think the package in the repositories is j2re
[10:33] <quam> and amarok freezes. heh
[10:33] <douglas> erm, where which repository, main, restricted, universe, or multiverse?
[10:34] <Corvus> yes, that happens to me to
[10:34] <quam> you know there's a search function right? :p
[10:34] <Corvus> but amarok doesn't freezes itself only, it freezes the entire system
[10:37] <Milktea> Where can I check my KDE version
[10:37] <Milktea> nvm
[10:37] <xtacocorex> Milktea: kcontrol
[10:37] <Milktea> ^^;;
[10:39] <douglas> I opened adept and typed j2re and it had no results
[10:40] <Milktea> How do I compile something?
[10:40] <wotnarg> Breezy uses gcc4.0 as the compiler, no?
[10:40] <apokryphos> douglas: breezy?
[10:40] <douglas> Milktea: What are you compiling
[10:40] <douglas> apokryphos: yes.
[10:40] <apokryphos> douglas: enable multiverse
[10:40] <Milktea> I have a wine folder from CVS
[10:40] <douglas> apokryphos: ok
[10:40] <Milktea> and a few tar.bz2
[10:41] <apokryphos> douglas: if you want the sun-java debs, then /msg ubotu javadebs
[10:42] <alberello2005> hi room
[10:42] <alberello2005> anyone use gyach messenger????
[10:42] <alberello2005> :P
[10:42] <douglas> apokryphos: Thanks
[10:43] <douglas> apokryphos: which plugin do you use to get flash working on webpages?
[10:43] <apokryphos> douglas: flashplayer-mozilla
[10:43] <douglas> apokryphos: and that works for konqueror too?
[10:43] <apokryphos> yup
[10:43] <douglas> apokryphos: thanks
[10:44] <Pixels-> my linux life sucks
[10:44] <douglas> I've installed many linux distros and kubuntu several times just playing around and this is something that always pisses me off.
[10:44] <Pixels-> im stuck using backwoods distro's
[10:44] <Pixels-> due to not being able to boot a 2.6 kernel
[10:44] <apokryphos> douglas: why reinstalling?
[10:44] <Pixels-> i have like 3 choices of distro's lol
[10:44] <strike4ce> What is the command to install from desktop?
[10:44] <apokryphos> eh?
[10:45] <douglas> apokryphos: my usb was broken, I thought it was because of a bad update or something, I don't know, I think I just like reinstalling
[10:45] <apokryphos> =)
[10:45] <douglas> apokryphos: my pendrive still doesn't work unless I manually mount though.
[10:45] <Pixels-> for usb, make sure uhci and ohci are loaded in the kernel
[10:45] <Pixels-> maybe even ehci
[10:45] <douglas> it says error loading media:sda1, file doens't exist
[10:45] <Pixels-> or something around there.
[10:45] <apokryphos> douglas: yup, see /topic
[10:45] <apokryphos> douglas: HAL isn't working; fix pending
[10:46] <Milktea> Where can I get the formats apple uses in iTunes for XMMS plugins?
[10:46] <strike4ce> what is the comman for instaling a program from desktop I know the first is cd Desktop what is the install command in konsole?
[10:46] <Milktea> what file?
[10:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: you trying to play .m4a files?
[10:46] <Milktea> yeah
[10:47] <douglas> apokryphos: wasa.
[10:47] <strike4ce> apokryphos:  what is the command for installing programs?
[10:47] <Pixels-> try ./wasa
[10:47] <apokryphos> strike4ce: apt-get
[10:47] <strike4ce> cd Desktop and the apt get?
[10:47] <humbolt> seth_k|lappy: how should the tabbing work?
[10:48] <douglas> damn j2re being huge and taking a long time to install itself
[10:48] <humbolt> can you paste you xorg.conf somewhere?
[10:48] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, tabbing?
[10:48] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, sure
[10:48] <xtacocorex> Milktea: do you have multimedia universe in synaptic?
[10:48] <Milktea> uh
[10:48] <Milktea> no
[10:48] <xtacocorex> Milktea: you'll need to get faad
[10:48] <Milktea> i have multiverse
[10:48] <Milktea> is that it?
[10:48] <strike4ce> my file is on the desktop, I know you type cd Desktop what is the install command?
[10:48] <xtacocorex> Milktea: that's what i meant
[10:49] <Milktea> oh
[10:49] <xtacocorex> Milktea: my bad on that one
[10:49] <Milktea> ah found it
[10:49] <Milktea> thanks
[10:49] <strike4ce> ?????
[10:49] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395777
[10:49] <Milktea> strike
[10:49] <Milktea> type
[10:49] <Milktea> sudo apt-get install (file)
[10:49] <xtacocorex> Milktea: np, that should do it, i just ended up converting them to ogg or flac files
[10:49] <apokryphos> strike4ce: cd means change directory -- nothing to do with installing files from apt
[10:50] <strike4ce> apokryphos:  no kidding lol i know I want to know what the rest of the comman dis
[10:50] <douglas> I've come to realize that kaffeine is shit, NOTE: not the shit.
[10:50] <xtacocorex> douglas: i'll agree with you there
[10:50] <jpdaigle> yeah
[10:50] <seth_k|lappy> douglas++
[10:50] <jpdaigle> xine works nicely tho
[10:51] <seth_k|lappy> but douglas, language please ;)
[10:51] <douglas> have you guys heard of codeine
[10:51] <douglas> sorry
[10:51] <seth_k|lappy> np
[10:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: I think you're mixing up two entirely different things
[10:51] <xtacocorex> douglas: i have, but i haven't tried it
[10:51] <jpdaigle> kaffeine stays running at 100% cpu after killing the window
[10:51] <xtacocorex> jpdaigle: there is a fix for that on the forums, but i don't remember where it's at
[10:51] <apokryphos> jpdaigle: hoary?
[10:51] <seth_k|lappy> douglas, no, but the name alone is so clever i want to try it :P
[10:52] <douglas> it's nice, like surgar and spice, only one problem, I have a drive mounted over the network in my home directory, and it sometimes thinks it can't play the files
[10:52] <douglas> but I reccomend it for everyone, and if we developers help out, perhaps we can replace the problem ridden kaffeine
[10:52] <apokryphos> !kaffeineprob
[10:52] <ubotu> hmm... kaffeineprob is at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#probkaffeine
[10:53] <jpdaigle> apokyphos: yeah, hoary
[10:53] <seth_k|lappy> has anybody gotten 1400x1050 to work in fglrx?
[10:53] <seth_k|lappy> it's driving me nuts that i'm stuck at 1280x1024
[10:53] <douglas> I've never tried.
[10:53] <xtacocorex> seth_k|lappy: i've given up on trying to get fglrx to work
[10:54] <douglas> speaking of, I almost forgot my nvidia drivers.
[10:54] <Milktea> I hate ATI
[10:54] <Milktea> ATI hates me
[10:54] <Milktea> :<
[10:54] <seth_k|lappy> i hate ATI
[10:54] <douglas> ATI hates Open source
[10:54] <douglas> therefore I hate ATI
[10:54] <seth_k|lappy> sadly I bought this laptop before I got into the linux scene
[10:54] <Milktea> same
[10:54] <seth_k|lappy> my desktop runs only nVidia tho ;)
[10:54] <douglas> I had an ati card, when I wanted to make a serious switch to linux, I also switched vid cards
[10:54] <Milktea> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[10:55] <Milktea> D=
[10:55] <Milktea> I don't want to open my precious laptop though
[10:55] <douglas> yea
[10:55] <douglas> I thought they were making progress on their drivers though
[10:55] <Milktea> yeah
[10:55] <Milktea> they released a new one for mine a few days ago
[10:55] <douglas> you should check out linux-gamers.net, I think they did some work on trying to get them working
[10:55] <Milktea> Ooo
[10:55] <douglas> and also read cedega's faq
[10:55] <seth_k|lappy> douglas, thanks
[10:56] <douglas> I think
[10:56] <Milktea> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1006
[10:56] <Milktea> Woo
[10:57] <douglas> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=22
[10:57] <douglas> This is their howto for ati cards
[10:57] <douglas> cedega doesn't have something, sorry. I thought they did.
[10:58] <Milktea> I have weird problems when i run WoW under Cedega using opengl instead of D3D
[10:58] <douglas> Hurray for video games!
[10:58] <Milktea> Wine, however, only has the clicking problem and the system lock problem
[10:58] <Milktea> Cedega has all of that and renders stuff weirdly
[10:58] <Milktea> or maybe it's because i mininova'd my cedega
[10:58] <Milktea> whatever
[10:58] <Milktea> lol
[10:59] <douglas> stupid laptops coming with ati and not being able to chane to nvidia
[11:00] <libben> how do i import my contacts to kopete ?
[11:00] <libben> ive made a new msn account and now i wanna import my exported contacts
[11:00] <douglas> Time to restart x, be back later
[11:02] <Milktea> How do install a tar.bz2
[11:02] <xtacocorex> Milktea: what's in the tar.bz2?
[11:02] <paelscrit> how do you install a tar.gz
[11:02] <paelscrit> heh
[11:03] <paelscrit> i suck at linux
[11:03] <Milktea> a folder with makefiles in them
[11:03] <xtacocorex> Milktea: from the command line type tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[11:03] <Milktea> thanks
[11:03] <libben> or just right click on it in konqueror
[11:03] <libben> and choose extract
[11:03] <paelscrit> then what do you do after you extract it
[11:03] <Milktea> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[11:03] <Milktea> Try `tar --help' for more information.
[11:04] <xtacocorex> Milktea: do what libben said, a lot easy than the command line
[11:04] <Milktea> oh ok
[11:05] <Milktea> woot for ./configure
[11:05] <strike4ce> glxgears isnt running as good as it was before the upgrade
[11:05] <Milktea> strike4ce: Huh?
[11:05] <strike4ce> type in glxgears in terminal
[11:05] <Milktea> wine sure  takes a long time to make
[11:06] <Milktea> i know what glxgears is
[11:06] <Milktea> but what upgrade?
[11:06] <strike4ce> the latest
[11:06] <strike4ce> 3.4.3
[11:06] <Milktea> breezy?
[11:06] <Milktea> Oh
[11:06] <Milktea> KDE?
[11:06] <strike4ce> uh yea
[11:06] <strike4ce> uh yea
[11:06] <Milktea> ono
[11:06] <Milktea> idunno
[11:06] <Milktea> D=
[11:07] <Phati> !de
[11:07] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[11:07] <Milktea> !en
[11:07] <ubotu> Milktea: What?
[11:07] <Milktea> Nevermind
[11:07] <strike4ce> how do i get to my video card
[11:08] <humbolt> seth_k|lappy: If I use ksynaptic and turn the touchpad off there, it keeps on working. 
[11:08] <Milktea> hmm?
[11:08] <Milktea> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:08] <Milktea> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[11:09] <xtacocorex> Milktea: what version of kde are you running?
[11:09] <Milktea> 3.4.0
[11:09] <humbolt> My Alps touchpad configuration does not seem to work. Even when I turn off the touchpad with ksynaptics it keeps on working. looking at /proc/bus/input/devices I see that the device used by X does not seem to be the actual Alps device: http://pastebin.com/395797  what can I do?
[11:11] <xtacocorex> Milktea: have you upgraded your system since you installed hoary?
[11:11] <Milktea> no
[11:11] <Milktea> well
[11:11] <Milktea> I did a month ago
[11:11] <strike4ce> Where do I find where my vid card is?
[11:11] <xtacocorex> Milktea: my synaptic says that my versions of qt are 3.3
[11:12] <Milktea> oh
[11:12] <Milktea> ill go updaet
[11:12] <quam> ksynaptics doesn't seem to work for me either. i want to turn tapping off because it's annoying as hell
[11:12] <Milktea> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:12] <Milktea> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[11:12] <Milktea> opos
[11:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: so maybe try that
[11:12] <Milktea> sorry fingers slipped
[11:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it's all good
[11:13] <Milktea> Whee
[11:13] <Milktea> earthquake
[11:13] <quam> where?
[11:13] <Milktea> LA county
[11:13] <Milktea> really small though
[11:13] <xtacocorex> Milktea: so your house just shook
[11:13] <Milktea> ya
[11:13] <xtacocorex> Milktea: badass
[11:13] <Milktea> yep
[11:14] <Milktea> Wow, wine has been make'ing the file for 10 minutes now
[11:14] <Milktea> o-o
[11:14] <xtacocorex> Milktea: so it got past the qt error
[11:14] <Milktea> no, that was something else
[11:14] <Milktea> I'm updating
[11:15] <xtacocorex> Milktea: oy
[11:15] <Milktea> I have 151 packages to update
[11:15] <Milktea> o-o
[11:15] <slow-motion> n8
[11:20] <icewt> why is kde so much better than gnome? i always become sad when using kde/kde-programs because they win gnome equivalents 10-0 :(
[11:20] <apokryphos> ergh
[11:20] <icewt> ;)
[11:20] <apokryphos> actually getting quasi-sick of that point; heard it about 10 times in the last week (and only 5 times in my life before that, I'd say)
[11:20] <quam> hrm, x shared memory, anyone know how to enable that?
[11:21] <apokryphos> kde has one panel. It's windows, it is! It must be!
[11:22] <nikki_a> one panel ?
[11:22] <Blissex> quam: shared memory does not need to be enabled, but you need to enable SHM by mounting 'tmpfs' under '/dev/shm'
[11:22] <quam> it's already mounted
[11:23] <apokryphos> nikki_a: by default, yes
[11:23] <quam> i was trying to run qsynaptics to try to kill my touchpad
[11:23] <nikki_a> apokryphos: gnome only has one by default too, doesn't it ?
[11:23] <nikki_a> apokryphos: at least, last time i used gnome, it did
[11:23] <soccerfiend> actually there is only 1 panel by default
[11:23] <apokryphos> nikki_a: nope, two
[11:23] <apokryphos> heh
[11:23] <quam> and it said x shared memory wasn't on
[11:23] <soccerfiend> no gnome defaults to two
[11:23] <soccerfiend> which is a waste of screen space
[11:23] <icewt> the first thing i always do in gnome is deleting the other panel :)
[11:23] <apokryphos> nikki_a: you haven't used it at all, for that long? :D
[11:23] <apokryphos> kinda funny ;-)
[11:23] <soccerfiend> ditto
[11:24] <nikki_a> apokryphos: i haven't used gnome since, ummm, 2000?
[11:24] <soccerfiend> especially on my laptop, 2 panels is kinda silly
[11:24] <apokryphos> hehe
[11:24] <apokryphos> nikki_a: try it today, so you can dislike it properly :P
[11:24] <nikki_a> nah, thats ok
[11:24] <nikki_a> i had an arguement about gtk earlier :P
[11:24] <soccerfiend> I want to like gnome, (it used to be my fav), but it seems to be getting worse to use
[11:24] <apokryphos> nikki_a: oh?
[11:24] <nikki_a> apokryphos: i was pointing out that its ugly :P
[11:25] <nikki_a> apokryphos: the gtk fans among the audio developers present didn't take too kindly :P
[11:25] <apokryphos> a self-evident empirical fact; who would argue with that? :P
[11:25] <apokryphos> </terrible flame>
[11:25] <icewt> i don't like two panels in gnome, but i don't like the default kde _big_ panel either. luckily both of those annoyances can be fixed
[11:25] <soccerfiend> the first I do with KDE is make the panel tiny
[11:26] <apokryphos> icewt: big -- two minimised-windows line?
[11:26] <richard> I installed gnome and using apt-get install kde , I downloaded and installed all of kde. My Wifi connection works in Gnome initially (5.10 release ) but not in KDE (5.10). Having installed KDE and running KDE under Gnome session, I  have connectability with KDE. How do I now get rid of GNOME? Leaving just KDE hopefully in a Wifi functional state?
[11:26] <jsubl2> i like the way in kde i can squeeze two rows in the task bar for only 36 pixels
[11:26] <apokryphos> I prefer the look
[11:26] <icewt> apokryphos, waste of space anyway
[11:26] <apokryphos> not if it's used up :P
[11:26] <icewt> imo
[11:26] <icewt> apokryphos, well, i use multiple desktops
[11:27] <nikki_a> actually, thats a fair point, i keep my desktops categorised, so i could probably shrink my panel
[11:27] <apokryphos> icewt: me too, but not as much as others, generally
[11:27] <richard> Or should I levave them both on the system?
[11:29] <richard> This is the only way I can get KDE to work with my system, is by starting it up with Gnome.
[11:29] <soccerfiend> richard: what do you mean wifi is broken in kde?
[11:29] <apokryphos> richard: running kde under a gnome session? Eh?
[11:30] <soccerfiend> my wifi works in all dekstop environements (and even console only), as it is handled outside of the UI
[11:30] <apokryphos> richard: you don't need to start gnome to start the application, surely
[11:30] <richard> IIt does not allow administrator mode to function to enable or disable what it finds for Wifi.
[11:30] <soccerfiend> try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <soccerfiend> you probably are missing something like kdesu
[11:30] <apokryphos> richard: kdesu kcontrol
[11:31] <soccerfiend> I actually use waproamd for handling wireless
[11:32] <richard> I guess I should state everything differently. When the system boots up, it starts with only Gnome. In the Intro screen I go to and enter KDE session as default. Thats how I get KDE to run. Gnome has no problem getting my wifi up and running. 
[11:32] <gath> hello
[11:32] <soccerfiend> (which relies on iwconfig, part of the wireless-tools package
[11:33] <apokryphos> richard: that's still really confusing. You run kde and gnome at the same time? 
[11:33] <soccerfiend> ah, you can apt-get install kdm, which is the kdm GUI login 
[11:33] <gath> can i get a german version of thunderbird for my breezy ?
[11:33] <nikki_a> gath, given my work PC, clearly, yes :/
[11:34] <nikki_a> stupid knoppix system, it keeps resetting to german whenever i turn my back for a minute :P
[11:34] <gath> nikki_a: and how is the apt- name?
[11:34] <richard> No, I boot up with gnome and change the session via the splash screen menu that asks what session you want to start as default. (i.e. Gnome, KDE, etc)
[11:35] <strike4ce> My graphics card is not workking as good as it could ever since I did the update
[11:35] <nikki_a> gath, mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de ?
[11:35] <gath> locale ?
[11:35] <apokryphos> richard: erm, so you're not in gnome at all, then? You just login to kde through GDM?
[11:35] <gath> i`LL try
[11:36] <soccerfiend> mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de - Mozilla Thunderbird German Language/Region Package
[11:36] <soccerfiend> its there
[11:36] <Milktea> what shte command to kill wine
[11:36] <richard> Yes, because my wifi connection works in Gnome not in Kde. (At least with the distro disks (5.10) . I used apt-get install to put kde on my system. 
[11:36] <nikki_a> soccerfiend: i know, i looked it up first :P
[11:36] <soccerfiend> oh heh, should have paid attention :)
[11:36] <gath> soccerfiend: it says it is the newest version
[11:37] <apokryphos> richard: but you've just said you're not actually going into gnome at all
[11:37] <apokryphos> gdm -- gnome login manager; you're not actually in gnome when you use this
[11:37] <apokryphos> actually, it could mean gtk login manager oO
[11:37] <gath> soccerfiend: but i don`t have any thunderbird on my new breezy system
[11:38] <mike998> is there a problem with the mplayerhq.hu site?  I can't seem to get w32codecs
[11:38] <richard> NO i just get booted up into the splash screen that allows me to change the session. . .. 
[11:38] <apokryphos> !tell mike998 about w32codecs
[11:39] <apokryphos> richard: it's not a splash screen, it's a display (login) manager. Sorry to be a pedant, but the different terms confuse things ;-)
[11:39] <Logikal> Im going to attempt to use Knoppix to repair a windows install
[11:39] <Corvus> !tell corvus about libdivx4linux
[11:39] <richard> Sorry I don't know better. . .
[11:39] <apokryphos> np :)
[11:39] <apokryphos> richard: so, you're saying when you use KDM (the KDE display manager), your wifi doesn't work?
[11:39] <apokryphos> I can't see why that would be the case; gdm/kdm wouldn't initiate any wifi processes
[11:40] <richard> Yes in the full distro that you download (5.10) as an ISO. 
[11:40] <apokryphos> richard: sudo aptitude install kdm
[11:40] <apokryphos> see if it works
[11:40] <qatsi> hi all !!...how can i be part of a workgroup in a network ?.....i have a laptop and a desktop, but none of them can share files in my local network, Konqueror says i need to be in a workgroup ....any idea ?
[11:40] <richard> I'll give it a try. ... be back in a few
[11:41] <Milktea> How do i find the size of my screen
[11:41] <Milktea> in pixels
[11:41] <soccerfiend> qatis: man samba :)
[11:41] <apokryphos> milksteak: how many it can handle, or what it's set on now?
[11:41] <qatsi> soccerfiend: thanx :p they should do a man page on how to use manuals :p i never know what to type :p
[11:41] <Milktea> What it's set on now
[11:41] <soccerfiend> just being a punk
[11:42] <Milktea> actually
[11:42] <Milktea> both
[11:42] <nikki_a> qatsi: 'man man' ? :)
[11:42] <mike998> apokryphos: I am getting a GPG error - is this the same as the error that was recieved when nerim first went online when warty went live?
[11:42] <apokryphos> milksteak: right-click -> configure desktop
[11:42] <apokryphos> milksteak: and for what it can handle, result to the monitor manual
[11:42] <soccerfiend> right click on desktop then select configure desktop
[11:42] <qatsi> nikki_a: yep :p on the contrary of 'man woman'  (check thinkgeek.com)
[11:42] <soccerfiend> then click on the icon labeled display
[11:42] <Milktea> ok
[11:42] <apokryphos> mike998: you're getting a gpg error for what? The w32codecs link just sends you to a place with raw debs to download
[11:43] <nikki_a> qatsi: the 'woman.1' manpage is an old emacs 'joke' - personally, i don't find it exceptionally funny
[11:43] <Milktea> your x server does not support resizing and rotating the display. Please update to version 4.3 or greater. You need the X resize and rotate exension (RANDR) version 1.1 or greater to use this feature
[11:43] <mike998> apokryphos : I perform a sudo apt-get update, and get a GPG Error.  I can post in #flood if you wish
[11:43] <qatsi> nikki_a: darn :p i like it much :p       are you a woman, by any chance ?
[11:45] <soccerfiend> mike998: use http://pastebin.ca/ instead
[11:45] <qatsi> uhmm, so soccerfiend, Samba is for Windows sharing, as i see......is there an alternative to share files in a linux network ?
[11:45] <soccerfiend> I use samba for both
[11:46] <soccerfiend> you can also use nfs
[11:46] <nikki_a> qatsi: many, but smb is actually fairly good
[11:46] <soccerfiend> samba works better over wireless than nfs
[11:46] <nikki_a> soccerfiend: in my experience, it works better over wired too
[11:46] <qatsi> nikki_a and soccerfiend ok, ill use Samba, sounds good....ill try to figure out how to set up linux networks...thanx.......
[11:46] <apokryphos> mike998: ok. There is no breezy-updates repo yet, so comment that out. And why are you using nerim repo?
[11:46] <nikki_a> soccerfiend: its faster than NFS (in my experience), and doesn't quite have as bad security issues as NFS :)
[11:46] <Milktea> uh
[11:47] <apokryphos> mike998: you can cause a lot of problems with it
[11:47] <soccerfiend> smbclient, smbmount are your friends
[11:47] <qatsi> soccerfiend: thanx :)
[11:47] <mike998> apokryphos: in the link that was posted
[11:47] <soccerfiend> nikka_: preating to the choir
[11:47] <soccerfiend> nikka_: preatching to the choir
[11:47] <apokryphos> mike998: which one?
[11:47] <chris-x> hey guys, i want to have a script / command executed on kde-startup (not system-startup), where do I have to place it?
[11:47] <nikki_a> coda is potentially better...
[11:47] <mike998> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:48] <nikki_a> but smb works well enough, and you might as well have something that works with *all* major OSes :)
[11:48] <apokryphos> mike998: ignore that; go to the other links which have direct downloads to debs
[11:48] <soccerfiend> nikki_a: properly tuned nfs can beat samba on my wired network
[11:48] <soccerfiend> there is also a secured version of nfs that works ok, 
[11:48] <qatsi> by the way, i need some terminal commands to run at bootup, how can i make this happen ?
[11:48] <dave> chris-X - put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:49] <richard_> sudo aptitude install kdm works.  I boot up into kdm now only. . . .
[11:49] <soccerfiend> qatsi: place a script in .kde/env
[11:49] <apokryphos> richard_: cool
[11:49] <mike998> apokryphos: will do
[11:49] <chris-x> dave: oh, I did, now my brain starts working again and it says, I should put a bash-script in there, thanks a lot :)
[11:49] <qatsi> soccerfiend: is there a special syntax for the script, or just the commands ?
[11:49] <richard_> How do I know uninstall Gnome completely?
[11:49] <soccerfiend> qatsi: usually a good idea to start with #!/bin/bash on first line
[11:49] <apokryphos> richard_: remove some vital gtk lib :P
[11:50] <apokryphos> libgtksomething
[11:50] <richard_> Yikes
[11:50] <qatsi> soccerfiend: all right then :) ill do it :) thanx
[11:50] <soccerfiend> qatis: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[11:50] <soccerfiend> excellent resource
[11:50] <qatsi> soccerfiend: ohh, ill read it :) so much thanx :)
[11:50] <richard_> This noew package manager that came out in 5.10 what's it called?
[11:50] <soccerfiend> adept
[11:51] <richard_> New Package manager? Adept?
[11:51] <soccerfiend> though it has not converted me from apt-get and aptitude (the two I still use the most)
[11:51] <apokryphos> yes
[11:52] <inventas> can any 1 get me jave software  ??
[11:52] <icewt> btw, is there anything like "update notifier" in gnome for kde?
[11:52] <apokryphos> !tell inventas about javadebs
[11:52] <soccerfiend> though to be fair, I have been using debian for a long time, so I am very used to them
[11:52] <richard_> What is aptitude? ls it like apt-get? 
[11:52] <apokryphos> icewt: yes, but it has no tray icon :/
[11:52] <apokryphos> richard_: yes; it's a front-end to apt. Has a few differences; they're both good
[11:52] <soccerfiend> aptitude is a console app, curses (console gui)
[11:52] <icewt> apokryphos, ah, what is it then?
[11:52] <soccerfiend> it has a lot of neat things
[11:53] <soccerfiend> like synaptic, adept, it is another front end
[11:53] <richard_> You run it in the konsole? Is it in the repository for downloading and installing?
[11:53] <soccerfiend> yup
[11:53] <apokryphos> richard_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <soccerfiend> I think it might be there by default
[11:53] <apokryphos> richard_: that'll give you what really constitutes as "Kubuntu". With the plain kde you'll be lacking a lotta stuff
[11:54] <soccerfiend> searching for packages inside of aptitude is nice (regex behavior)
[11:54] <richard_> Sorry for the stupid questions. . . .
[11:54] <apokryphos> not stupid at all
[11:54] <soccerfiend> the only stupid question is the one not asked
[11:54] <richard_> I'm not as Savy with Linux like alot of the pro's. . ..
[11:54] <richard_> But I'm learning. . ..
[11:54] <soccerfiend> neither am I
[11:55] <soccerfiend> you will likely never stop learning
[11:55] <richard_> That's for sure. . ..
[11:55] <inventas> can any 1 get me jave software  ??
[11:55] <inventas> java*
[11:55] <richard_> I'll be back . . .thanks for all the helpl you've all provided. . . .
[11:55] <soccerfiend> hold on I'll check my sources.list inventa
[11:56] <H2O> hi everybody
[11:56] <H2O> hi sho
[11:56] <icewt> inventas, do you mean those http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ ?
[11:56] <dave> What is the point of "adept-updater" I thought it was supposed to sit in the system tray and inform you when an upgrade was ready when all it seems to do is run update which can be done easily from the normal adept GUI?
[11:56] <libben> I would help alot if i could.. but im really of for some sleep and im still a n00b on this also. 
[11:56] <Sho_> hi H2O
[11:56] <soccerfiend> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:56] <Sho_> H2O: Got it working?
[11:56] <H2O> no
[11:56] <Sho_> :(
[11:57] <H2O> it keeps stopping
[11:57] <H2O> how else i can solve it
[11:57] <Milktea> how do you kill wine
[11:57] <Milktea> O_O
[11:57] <Milktea> i tried killall wine
[11:57] <Milktea> but it apparently
[11:57] <Milktea> nothing happens
[11:57] <icewt> Milktea, try also killall wineserver
[11:57] <soccerfiend> inventas: add this to your /etc/apt/course.list --> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:58] <Milktea> nope
[11:58] <soccerfiend> then apt-get install j2re1.4
[11:58] <icewt> Milktea, ps aux | grep wine
[11:58] <soccerfiend> or j2sdk1.4
[11:58] <dave> try "pkill wine"
[11:58] <chavo> Milktea, do ps ax | grep wine, find the pid and then -> kill -9 pid
[11:58] <Milktea> k
[11:59] <Milktea> milktea@dhcppc2:~/kompile-0.1$ ps aux | grep wine
[11:59] <Milktea> milktea  11948  1.8 12.0 1786452 109328 pts/2  SLl+ 14:55   0:03 /usr/bin/wine-preloader /usr/bin/wine-pthread WoW.exe -opengl
[11:59] <Milktea> milktea  11974  0.0  0.0   3032   724 pts/3    S+   14:58   0:00 grep wine
[11:59] <Milktea> tried 11948 and 11974
[11:59] <Milktea> and nothing
[11:59] <Milktea> Oh
[11:59] <Milktea> nvm
[12:00] <Milktea> wait
[12:00] <Milktea> huh?
[12:00] <H2O> i need help, my pakage manager doesn't fetch the updates
[12:01] <apokryphos> !enter
[12:01] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:01] <Milktea> Sorry
[12:01] <H2O> it stops at 44% waiting for headers but....nothing
[12:01] <H2O> it stops there
[12:01] <H2O> how i can solve it :(
[12:01] <soccerfiend> H2O: what is the package manager
[12:02] <soccerfiend> H2O: from the command line, what happens when you type apt-get update
[12:02] <icewt> H2O, you could try "sudo apt-get clean" , "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:03] <H2O> is adept, where you can install others pakage that are not included with the original installation of kubuntu