[12:04] <mpt> that's what I mean by managerial, yes :-)
[12:04] <Burglaptop> I see
[12:04] <mpt> but I'll try to have an alternative layout to demo to the devs at UBZ
[12:04] <mpt> so they can beat appropriate people over the head
[12:04] <Burglaptop> ever thought about malone.launchpad.net and rosetta.launchpad.net ?
[12:05] <mpt> yeah, a few times
[12:05] <mpt> but not sure how much point there would be
[12:06] <Burglaptop> people here about rosetta and hear about launchpad
[12:06] <Burglaptop> that is where I would go
[04:14] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:15] <Madpilot> hi jsgotangco
[04:33] <jsgotangco> brb
[07:59] <jsgotangco> hi
[08:00] <Burglaptop> salut
[08:00] <Burglaptop> I just added an item for the agenda
[08:01] <jsgotangco> ahh
[08:01] <jsgotangco> checking..
[08:02] <jsgotangco> i just finised downloading the dvd
[08:02] <jsgotangco> heh
[08:02] <jsgotangco> its just the install and live in one
[08:02] <jsgotangco> *grrr
[08:04] <jsgotangco> err Burglaptop LOTS
[08:04] <jsgotangco> heh
[08:04] <Burglaptop> yes, I realize that
[08:05] <jsgotangco> i can probably ask ogra how he did the gtk stuff with hwdb
[08:06] <Burglaptop> we can probably use the gnome one
[08:06] <jsgotangco> do you know what package is that?
[08:06] <Burglaptop> the program is gnome-about
[08:07] <Burglaptop> package is the same
[08:08] <jsgotangco> ahh its small
[08:09] <jsgotangco> how do you grab the source?
[08:09] <Burglaptop> apt-get source gnome-about
[08:09] <jsgotangco> ahhh right
[08:10] <jsgotangco> downloading...
[08:16] <jsgotangco> what the heck its downloading gnome-desktop source
[08:16] <jsgotangco> heh
[08:27] <Burglaptop> did you manage to pull it apart
[08:27] <Burglaptop> ?
[08:29] <jsgotangco> dpkg-source: command not found
[08:29] <jsgotangco> i'm missing something
[08:29] <jsgotangco> i haven't done a chroot yet
[08:30] <Burglaptop> I just ran into the same thing
[08:30] <Burglaptop> I think you need build-essential
[08:30] <jsgotangco> yes
[08:31] <jsgotangco> im browsing the forums atm
[08:31] <jsgotangco> its been a while since i looked
[08:31] <Burglaptop> dapper forum is already hopping
[08:32] <jsgotangco> dapper?
[08:32] <jsgotangco> what crackful stuff are they discussing atm
[08:33] <Burglaptop> yhu7iopkijuuukk
[08:34] <Burglaptop> maybe taht was a comment on the forum posters
[08:46] <Burglaptop> night
[08:47] <jsgotangco> night Corey
[10:24] <mdke> morning
[10:25] <Madpilot> hmm... yes, it's technically morning here
[10:25] <jsgotangco> hi
[10:25] <jsgotangco> lol
[10:26] <jsgotangco> boring  day for me
[10:27] <mdke> how come?
[10:27] <jsgotangco> raining outside wanted to go to the park with my kid
[10:28] <mdke> indoor games only i guess
[10:29] <mdke> jsgotangco, got a moment?
[10:29] <jsgotangco> sure
[10:30] <mdke> i saw from some bugs that there is talk of fixing bugs in the faqguide in an -update
[10:30] <jsgotangco> well i only said its possible
[10:30] <mdke> in the bug you commented on, I would agree
[10:30] <mdke> but rob^ has made a few comments on correcting typos and other bugs in an update
[10:31] <mdke> I was planning to go to the TB with a proposal on updates
[10:31] <jsgotangco> push a whole doc update?
[10:31] <mdke> and if it is limited to including sample and more translations, I think it will succeed
[10:31] <mdke> but if I have to admit that there are gonna be string changes too, I will probably not have a hope in hell
[10:32] <jsgotangco> if its just the samples, its possible, but with changes to strings? can't say
[10:32] <mdke> that's what I think too
[10:33] <jsgotangco> the sucky part is that its just the download release, not even pressed cds
[10:33] <mdke> ?
[10:34] <jsgotangco> i mean the bugs at the moment are limited to people who downloaded the iso
[10:34] <jsgotangco> a lot more will install once they recieve their cds from shipit
[10:34] <mdke> oh
[10:35] <mdke> well the odd typo is not a problem
[10:35] <jsgotangco> if you notice the code snippets they are badly aligned as well
[10:36] <mdke> not a big deal
[10:36] <jsgotangco> well its not an issue really, but its easily fixed by not aligning the code snippet itself
[10:38] <mdke> looks ok in the html
[10:39] <jsgotangco> yes but yelp is playing dumb again lol
[10:42] <jsgotangco> ill brb
[10:50] <rob^> gee, I'm not having much luck getting breezy branch
[10:50] <rob^> svn keeps wigging out half way through
[10:52] <mdke> heya rob^ 
[10:52] <rob^> hi mdke 
[10:52] <mdke> when you get it, if you change any strings I'm gonna beat you up
[10:52] <rob^> I left it to download last night, came back and its just sitting there
[10:53] <rob^> heh :)
[10:53] <rob^> I won't!
[10:54] <rob^> I just want to mess with the Makefile
[10:54] <mdke> ah that is done now too
[10:54] <mdke> sean did it yesterday
[10:54] <rob^> did you get it working? I noticed a few updates by you
[10:54] <mdke> yeah
[10:54] <rob^> oh. goody!
[10:55] <rob^> hmm its stuck on the kde Makefile again
[10:55] <mdke> heh
[10:56] <mdke> i'm putting up some translations of the faqguide as we speak
[10:56] <mdke> although the damn revhistory thing still isn't fixed
[10:56] <mdke> because sean insisted on doing a fix which requires docbook xsl 1.69
[10:57] <rob^> is the revhistory that big a problem?
[10:57] <rob^> it should be on the credits page anyhow
[10:57] <mdke> yeah it's a problem in my eyes
[10:57] <mdke> it takes up the whole front page
[10:58] <rob^> from memory thats why we moved it when we wanted to ship html, what changed in the makefile between then and now
[10:58] <rob^> ?
[10:59] <mdke> i don't remember that
[11:11] <mdke> hmm
[11:11] <mdke> rob^, 
[11:11] <mdke> know what this is all about?
[11:11] <mdke> Error: no ID for constraint linkend: synaptic- usage.
[11:11] <mdke> XRef to nonexistent id: synaptic- usage
[11:12] <mdke> that space shouldn't be there should it?
[11:12] <rob^> no space
[11:12] <rob^> is that in a translation?
[11:12] <mdke> yes
[11:12] <mdke> in more than one translation
[11:12] <rob^> something went wrong there then, thats now how it was
[11:12] <mdke> its ok in the english version?
[11:13] <mdke> it is like that in ALL the translations AFAICS
[11:13] <rob^> is the link "How do I use Synaptic to install packages?"
[11:13] <rob^> if so, its ok in the english version on breezy
[11:14] <mdke> hmm
[11:14] <mdke> how the hell did that happen
[11:15] <rob^> dunno, I'm clicking on it now in yelp and it works
[11:15] <mdke> yeah the english version looks ok
[11:16] <mdke> goddammit
[11:18] <mdke> it is fine in the pot
[11:18] <rob^> odd
[11:19] <mdke> it is fine in the po's
[11:20] <mdke> it is fine in the translated xml
[11:20] <rob^> don't you just love xml?
[11:20] <mdke> wtf?!?!
[11:20] <mdke> oh no
[11:20] <rob^> yelp isn't having a brain fart is it?
[11:20] <mdke> only SOME of the instances in the translated xml are ok
[11:21] <rob^> o0
[11:21] <mdke> that is fucking crazy
[11:22] <mdke> a different number of occurrences in each xml...
[11:22] <mdke> it keeps getting crazier
[11:22] <rob^> yay my debian website got over 200 hits that wern't bots this week :)
[11:22] <rob^> that is pretty odd
[11:23] <rob^> the line isn't appearing in launchpad and people changing it is it?
[11:23] <rob^> I've seen some odd things when translating before
[11:23] <mdke> no because the po's are fine
[11:23] <rob^> hmm
[11:25] <mdke> oh well
[11:25] <mdke> must be a bug in xml2po
[11:25] <rob^> maybe :(
[11:25] <mdke> or a bug in me
[11:25] <rob^> heh
[11:28] <rob^> I'm off, cya mdke 
[11:28] <mdke> bye
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> should i file bugs on spelling in bugzilla or just announce them here?
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> it seems overkill to use bugzilla
[01:04] <mdke> fix them after we've merged back to trunk
[01:04] <mdke> there are lots of spelling bugs open, but I agree it seems overkill
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. ill hold any/all bugs untill after the merg