[12:00] <Nick_Hill> augustin, Are you sure a driver isn't in the kernel?
[12:00] <sn9> freddy244: what are you trying to load?
[12:00] <JDigital> Hey guys, do I want to be using ALSA in Breezy, or ESD?
[12:00] <zyret_> Rafael_Brasil, maybe google: ubuntu 5.04 mknod dev/sda1
[12:00] <TiMiDo> alsa
[12:01] <TiMiDo> dtamas ask in the channel do not msg me
[12:01] <augustin> Nick_Hill, no i'm not sure, but the cam is a Logitech Quickcam STX, pretty recent (or so i've read), and it seems it needs the spca5xx driver.
[12:01] <sn9> JDigital: i use esd
[12:01] <freddy244> sn9, a ndiswrapper module to get my wireless card running
[12:01] <hramrach> Hello
[12:01] <TiMiDo> JDigital ac97?
[12:01] <bobbyd> augustin, open a shell and type 'lsusb' if that given an error, do 'sudo apt-get install lsusb'
[12:01] <freddy244> sn9, modprobe ndiswrapper worked with hoary but it's not with breezy
[12:01] <hramrach> How do I tell why apt refuses to install something?
[12:01] <nalioth> hramrach: it gives you an error, usually
[12:01] <TiMiDo> hramrach apt-get -f install
[12:01] <sn9> freddy244: did you reinstall ndiswrapper-utils?
[12:01] <hramrach> It only says there has been an error, but does not give any reason
[12:01] <hybrid_goth> hramrach: any errors output?
[12:01] <Creamz> hramrach : changed your repolistis (spelling)?
[12:02] <erUSUL> JDigital: not comparable tecnologies esd uses alsa you need both or aonly alsa
[12:02] <Nick_Hill> augustin, locate spca  \ /usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.6/libgphoto2_spca50x.so
[12:02] <Maikeru> Yesterday was the best birthday I've had in a year.
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : client howot doesnt explain it
[12:02] <JDigital> I don't really know which is the best.
[12:02] <augustin> bobbyd, lsusb returns a list of USB 'ports', two of them taken by my mouse and a "logitech inc." device (the cam, obviously)
[12:02] <JDigital> So which do I set mplayer to
[12:02] <TiMiDo> JDigital try esd
[12:02] <JDigital> And which do I set in Multimedia Systems Selector
[12:02] <bobbyd> augustin, how are you trying to use the cam? what makes you think it's not working?
[12:02] <TiMiDo> JDigital what sound card is it ac97?
[12:02] <augustin> but one thing is that, sooner, i tried launching xawtv with the cam plugged in, and, while the cam glew blue (good sign), it also crashed the comp (bad sign)
[12:02] <JDigital> I used to have trouble with the timing in hoary when using esd but I think maybe now they fixed that
[12:02] <Nick_Hill> augustin, So it appears gphoto2 knows about this camera type. And this appears to use a user-space driver. Although gphoto may be using this camera as a stille
[12:02] <JDigital> Lemme check
[12:03] <TiMiDo> JDigital lspci
[12:03] <JDigital> 0000:00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04)
[12:03] <hramrach> apt-egt build-dep mplayer gives four info lines saying what packages are selected, and a line saying that dependencies cannot be satisfied. Nothing else
[12:03] <joh> Anyone gotten iFolder to build on powerpc?
[12:03] <TiMiDo> ok
[12:03] <sn9> JDigital: i have esd in systems selector
[12:03] <TiMiDo> !tell hramrach about mplayer
[12:03] <ryanpg> hi all... how can I find what package provided a specific file?
[12:03] <Camo> running the 5.10 AMD64 distro, cant get flash to work on mozilla
[12:03] <nalioth> hramrach: i smell non  ubuntu repos
[12:03] <Camo> firefox
[12:03] <JDigital> I think I will use esd
[12:03] <Creamz> hramrach : check out http://ubuntuguide.org/ else
[12:03] <TiMiDo> ryanpg when you do apt-get install it will tell you
[12:03] <freddy244> sn9, yeah i reinstalled it why?
[12:03] <augustin> Nick_Hill, bobbyd did you see what i typed about xawtv ? no rushing, just making sure you did =)
[12:03] <nalioth> ryanpg: in a terminal type "apt-file search bleh"
[12:04] <TiMiDo> the packaged that the program needs
[12:04] <hramrach> that has nothing to do with non-ubuntu repos
[12:04] <JDigital> Creamz: You're not supposed to suggest ubuntuguide.org any more
[12:04] <JDigital> or so I hear
[12:04] <nalioth> Creamz: please dont recommend ubuntuguide
[12:04] <ryanpg> nalioth, thanks... but now what package provides apt-file :P
[12:04] <JDigital> `ubuntuguide
[12:04] <hramrach> apt should either give a reason or install the packages
[12:04] <TiMiDo> ryanpg apt-get
[12:04] <sn9> freddy244: did you do ndiswrapper -i again?
[12:04] <nalioth> ryanpg: "apt-get install apt-file"
[12:04] <JDigital> !tell Creamz about ubuntuguide
[12:04] <spudse2> Can someone maybe help me with enabling xinerama/dualscreen on Ubuntu?
[12:04] <ryanpg> nalioth, gracias
[12:04] <danny> hi
[12:05] <Creamz> JDigital : i see
[12:05] <JDigital> Hey, I get no sound with flash.
[12:05] <augustin> JDigital, why not ? *takes a mental note of not clicking on the ubuntuguide links that google pops up*
[12:05] <Creamz> !faq
[12:05] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:05] <Camo> does flash work with AMD64 5.10? what package(s) do i need to install?
[12:05] <JDigital> !tell augustin about ubuntuguide
[12:05] <tristanmike> !tell augustin about ubuntuguide
[12:05] <gusto5> hello
[12:05] <augustin> =)
[12:05] <louix> I have no sound either.
[12:05] <gusto5> anyone can help me with my samba problem?
[12:05] <sn9> Camo: no it does not
[12:05] <louix> But im content with that.
[12:05] <augustin> !faq
[12:05] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:05] <louix> =D
[12:05] <JDigital> heh
[12:05] <lsuactiafner> how do i mount a nfs share? need a command not a howto that doesnt explain it but instead something else
[12:06] <Camo> ah, i guess i should go back to I386 until its fixed then
[12:06] <augustin> nice ^
[12:06] <immothep> hi together
[12:06] <JDigital> Is the flash plugin using oss or something
[12:06] <freddy244> n9, yeah
[12:06] <sn9> Camo: it could be many years before then
[12:06] <augustin> bobbyd, any suggestion on what to use to check if the cam works properly ?
[12:06] <freddy244> it will install the driver
[12:06] <Camo> fun
[12:06] <freddy244> just won't add any mod to the kernel
[12:06] <gusto5> setting up samb i followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438&page=2&highlight=samba+howto, but when i it fails to connect
[12:06] <Nick_Hill> augustin, So it appears there is some sort of kernel space driver for your camera already installed. Perhaps the camera manufacturer have changed the specs ofthe chipset without giving timely warning to the kernel driver developer.
[12:06] <klvnn> hi got a huge problem with ubuntu 5.10
[12:06] <augustin> also, do any of you guys know how to change the MTU for my network card ? i used ifconfig but it didn't survive a reboot
[12:06] <TiMiDo> klvnn try asking
[12:06] <klvnn> it yes
[12:06] <adamamyl> gusto5: what's the samba prob?
[12:06] <Camo> thanks guys, im out
[12:07] <klvnn> okay
[12:07] <klvnn> i get "caught signal 11" with X
[12:07] <Nick_Hill> augustin, In which case, check you are using a recent kernel.
[12:07] <klvnn> fresh install
[12:07] <TiMiDo> oh ok
[12:07] <TiMiDo> what video card is it?
[12:07] <augustin> Nick_Hill,  i've got a fresh install of 5.10
[12:07] <sn9> augustin: there might be something in /etc/sysconfig/network
[12:07] <gusto5> adamamyl, when i try to mount, it doesnt connect, nor can i see mu ubuntu box from windows
[12:07] <klvnn> ati mobility radeon x600
[12:07] <immothep> someone whould like to help me on ubuntuserver?
[12:07] <TiMiDo> klvnn did you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:07] <adamamyl> gusto5: have you config'd a firewall?
[12:07] <hramrach> These quides for building mplayer from source are nice. I can do that. But why do we have apt and prepackaged sources then?
[12:07] <TiMiDo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:07] <klvnn> TiMiDo, i did that
[12:07] <augustin> sn9, thanks
[12:08] <gusto5> adamamyl, no firewalls, other than the xp-firewall of winblows
[12:08] <TiMiDo> and nothing happend klvnn?
[12:08] <klvnn> i tried the "ati" and "fglrx" drivers, with and without glx
[12:08] <primus> hi
[12:08] <klvnn> TiMiDo, something happened
[12:08] <adamamyl> gusto5: can the machines be pinged?
[12:08] <jxpx> how can i change my root password?
[12:08] <TiMiDo> such as
[12:08] <klvnn> with "ati" it was signal 4
[12:08] <TiMiDo> jxpx passwd
[12:08] <gusto5> adamamyl, how would i ping the machines?
[12:08] <sn9> freddy244: is this a self-compiled ndiswrapper? or ubuntu's?
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> mount -t nfs 192.168.0.2:/ /mnt/01
[12:08] <primus> i've a problem with grub
[12:08] <TiMiDo> gusto5 ping
[12:08] <jxpx> como timiido?
[12:08] <adamamyl> gusto5: find the ip addys and then ping $ip
[12:08] <TiMiDo> jxpx just type passwd
[12:08] <jxpx> ok
[12:08] <klvnn> with "flgrx" it is signal 11 and i can open a "failsafe xterm" session
[12:08] <immothep> is there a way to change the tty on putty with ssh?
[12:08] <primus> someone can help me?
[12:09] <LazyAngel> how do you run glxgears to see the fps? when i start glxgears, it starts up normally, but you dont see the fps...
[12:09] <nalioth> primus: ask the channel a question
[12:09] <gusto5> adamamyl, it fails to mount when im mounting it for smbfs btw
[12:09] <niggpie> I'm having difficulty getting my Orinoco 8482-WD PCI a/b/g wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu 5.10. I've browsed the forums with no luck. It looks like Atheros drivers were automatically loaded, and i see it as ath0 in the network configuration.. but when I enable it, it takes about 3 minutes before releasing the mouse to me again.. and still no connection. Any ideas?
[12:09] <Nick_Hill> augustin, In that case, given I don't have specialist knowledge of that specific camera, I can;t help more. Apart from suggesting you read through what documentation you can. If you find the kernel driver is causing a problem, please file a bug.
[12:09] <TiMiDo> gusto5 do you have it on /etc/fstab ?
[12:09] <sn9> LazyAngel: it outputs fps to the terminal from which you launched it
[12:09] <erUSUL> LazyAngel: apears on the terminal you launched the program from
[12:09] <JDigital> Can other people get sound working with flash in Firefox/Opera with Breezy?
[12:10] <TiMiDo> gusto5 is the device that you're mounting on /etc/fstab ?
[12:10] <LazyAngel> sn9, erUSUL, it should, but it doesnt...
[12:10] <cosimo321> Hello all I need help with this problem
[12:10] <TiMiDo> ask
[12:10] <klvnn> TiMiDo, do  you have any ideas?
[12:10] <TiMiDo> klvnn not really
[12:10] <cosimo321> I have been trying for weeks to get midi to play on Breezy.
[12:10] <sn9> LazyAngel: don't launch into background
[12:10] <klvnn> TiMiDo, ok :)
[12:10] <gusto5> TiMiDo, not a directory?!....
[12:11] <gusto5> thats not right at all...
[12:11] <cosimo321>  I have tried every forum and every entryon the internet and NONE of them work
[12:11] <TiMiDo> gusto5 nano /etc/fstab
[12:11] <klvnn> i guess i'll use XP :(
[12:11] <TiMiDo> cosimo321 do an update
[12:11] <cosimo321>  Does anyone here have this solved?
[12:11] <TiMiDo> did you do the dist-upgrade?
[12:11] <Nick_Hill> JDigital, Although I don't use flash myself, I suggest it may be an issue of OSS vs ALSA support.
[12:11] <cosimo321> yess I did everything
[12:11] <TiMiDo> ok
[12:11] <gusto5> TiMiDo, no the think im mounting is not there.
[12:11] <TiMiDo> is you're sound working?
[12:11] <JDigital> All these sound things are confusing.
[12:11] <LazyAngel> sn9, erUSUL, i found the problem: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76198&highlight=glxgears )
[12:11] <TiMiDo> gusto5 no wonder,
[12:11] <immothep> JOIN #ubuntuserver
[12:11] <TiMiDo> you cannot mount something that's not in fstab
[12:11] <cosimo321> my sond works fine. i can play dvds of course that not kdid
[12:12] <freddy244> sn9, i just reinstalled ndiswrapper and tried again but modprobe won't add the module
[12:12] <cosimo321> midi
[12:12] <gusto5> TiMiDo, which goes back to my first question about following http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438&page=2&highlight=samba+howto and IT notworking :)
[12:12] <Nick_Hill> JDigital, OSS is an older Linux sound standard. Alsa is a new, highly featured system. I suppose Flash uses the older system.
[12:12] <klvnn> anybody else using breezy with a hp zd8000?
[12:12] <immothep> JOIN ubuntuserver
[12:12] <sn9> freddy244: is this a self-compiled ndiswrapper? or ubuntu's?
[12:12] <feaces> hey how do i burn an iso in warty warthog
[12:12] <TiMiDo> feaces with k3b
[12:12] <feaces> i got the new iso for
[12:12] <feaces> no k3b this is gnome
[12:12] <QMario> Why does Breezy use so much of my processor?
[12:12] <ryanpg> anyone know how I can install 2.6.12-9 linux-kernel-headers?
[12:13] <klvnn> feaces, with gnomebaker
[12:13] <sn9> feaces: cdrecord foo.iso
[12:13] <Nick_Hill> JDigital, This then becomes a question of whenther your distro installs OSS compatability for your sound card.
[12:13] <feaces> is it in my gui
[12:13] <freddy244> sn9, it's Ubuntu's they called it ndiswrapper-utils
[12:13] <ryanpg> I don't find them in the base repos
[12:13] <cosimo321> gnomebaker is great for this
[12:13] <feaces> this is a semi fresh install and it did'nt find my cdrw
[12:13] <penguin42> ryanpg: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[12:13] <cosimo321> again has anyone been able to play .mid files on breeZy?
[12:13] <brandoo> hello
[12:13] <feaces> it just sees it as a regular cdrom
[12:13] <feaces> cdrom0
[12:14] <feaces> what was that burning software
[12:14] <Nick_Hill> cosimo321, I get midi to work with few sound cards. I get around it by using timidity++
[12:14] <feaces> baker something
[12:14] <brandoo> I've got the Breezy Ubuntu image - but would like to be using Kubuntu - is it possible to install Kubuntu within Ubuntu ?
[12:14] <QMario> It keeps on freezing.
[12:14] <cosimo321> I have tried timidity is timidity ++ different?
[12:14] <gusto5> TiMiDo, still around?
[12:14] <sn9> freddy244: dpkg -L ndiswrapper-utils
[12:14] <penguin42> brandoo: Yes, get ubuntu installed and then you can all the KDE stuff
[12:14] <mjr> brandoo, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in your ubuntu installation and you'll have the kde stuff too
[12:14] <Nick_Hill> cosimo321, It is probably timidity++ you are using.
[12:15] <augustin> damn crashed again ^^
[12:15] <cosimo321> I see well that doesn't work either
[12:15] <QMario> Breezy is going slower than Hoary.
[12:15] <brandoo> Cool - cheers guys
[12:15] <nalioth> brandoo: yes it is possible
[12:15] <TiMiDo> keep on cheering =)
[12:15] <augustin> Nick_Hill, sorry, i may have missed it if you asked me something =/
[12:15] <QMario> There is a pause every 5 seconds.
[12:15] <Nick_Hill> cosimo321, Did you try timidity -ig
[12:15] <penguin42> QMario: Hmm not seen that
[12:15] <QMario> How do I avoid this problem?
[12:16] <gusto5> TiMiDo, do you know whether http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438&page=2&highlight=samba+howto is suppose to work nor not?
[12:16] <ryanpg> penguin42, thanks but that doesn't provide the same as linux-kernel-headers... I need a newer /usr/include/linux/agpgart.h
[12:16] <QMario> I only have 4 windows open.
[12:16] <QMario> Okay 5.
[12:16] <sn9> feaces: just use the burning software, and tell it where the burner is
[12:16] <feaces> i did cdrecord -scanbus
[12:16] <QMario> But still. This is worse than Hoary.
[12:17] <sn9> feaces: scanbus is broken
[12:17] <klvnn> QMario, YES
[12:17] <gusto5> does ANYONE know if http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438&page=2&highlight=samba+howto works?
[12:17] <kbrooks> QMario: get the cd
[12:17] <feaces> ohhh shit
[12:17] <samu2> Can somebody point me to a program that will allow me to copy files from my ubuntu partition to my NTFS partition from XP?
[12:17] <cosimo321> which is that?
[12:17] <sn9> feaces: use dev=/dev/hdc or whatever
[12:17] <feaces> im using an older
[12:17] <QMario> Let me try restarting my system.
[12:17] <feaces> ubuntu
[12:17] <feaces> warty warthog
[12:17] <TiMiDo> samba samu2
[12:17] <nalioth> samu2: ext2fs (search it on sourceforge.net)
[12:17] <feaces> this is why i need to burn
[12:18] <sn9> feaces: try it anyway
[12:18] <Zealot87> hey
[12:18] <feaces> so i can ubdate i dont wanna boot winblowz
[12:18] <QMario> Kbrooks, which CD?
[12:18] <nalioth> feaces: language please
[12:18] <Zealot87> why does apt-get not have the w32codecs anymore?
[12:18] <feaces> so i can burn cause i dont have winblowz anymre
[12:18] <dmlinux> Hey guys, I am trying to make a unpartitioned part of my HD to go to windows, instead of linux, everything i try doesnt work, any ideas?
[12:18] <cosimo321> I hope that the 6++ version of ubuntu has a better name than it's previous incarnations
[12:18] <freddy244> sn9, i get file and folder locations?
[12:18] <nalioth> Zealot87: legal reasons
[12:18] <QMario> Klvnn, what did you mean by yes?
[12:18] <kbrooks> QMario: breezy cd
[12:18] <klvnn> i mean breezy doesn't work
[12:18] <Zealot87> so can i listen to mp3s anymore
[12:18] <penguin42> dmlinux: Create that partition from within windows
[12:18] <sn9> freddy244: anything in /lib/modules ?
[12:18] <kbrooks> Zealot87: grab it
[12:18] <dmlinux> penguin42 i cant even see it in windows
[12:19] <QMario> Kbrooks, why?
[12:19] <Rafael_Brasil> como adiciono repositrios q funcionem?
[12:19] <Zealot87> grab waht?
[12:19] <dmlinux> penguin42 is there a program im missing?
[12:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot87 about mp3
[12:19] <kbrooks> QMario: reinstal from stratch
[12:19] <nalioth> Zealot87: ubotu has sent you msgs, please read them
[12:19] <penguin42> dmlinux: ? If it is unpartitioned then you need to use the disc manager in windows to create a partition for it
[12:19] <Zealot87> kk
[12:19] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together
[12:19] <Lupin[lvl] > does anyone know how i can boot the files from usb stick? my motherboard supports booting from usb, but i dont know how to make the ubuntu install files bootable from the usb stick
[12:19] <sn9> feaces: you can dist-upgrade to hoary
[12:19] <immothep> hi again
[12:19] <zcat[1] > Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:19] <dmlinux> penguin42 ok ill try that, thanks
[12:19] <QMario> Kbrooks, why?
[12:19] <QMario> How will that help me?
[12:19] <cosimo321> Breeay works almost perfedtly for me. I have to admit it takes a bit of digging to get soem things to run
[12:19] <ethan-allison> sn9: why not just DU straight to breezy
[12:19] <immothep> someone could help with some ubtuntu issues;-)
[12:19] <zcat[1] > using nvidia-legacy drivers and nvidia-legacy-glx :-(
[12:20] <adamamyl> could someone remind me of the app that will output a logfile as gdm attempts to load?
[12:20] <freddy244> sn9, no there isn't
[12:20] <augustin> damn
[12:20] <augustin> that's official, glxgears crashes my comp =D
[12:20] <zcat[1] > any suggestions?
[12:20] <cosimo321> Like plauing dvd's but other than that ubuntu is on the right track as far as I cam see
[12:20] <cosimo321>  of course that is my opinion
[12:20] <augustin> good news is: it wasn't my webcam ^^
[12:20] <Lupin[lvl] > i tried just extracting the iso files right onto the usb stick but it doesnt seem to boot
[12:20] <immothep> how i can change tty under putty ?
[12:20] <kbrooks> QMario: ...
[12:20] <immothep> i there a way?
[12:20] <sn9> freddy244: try installing linux-restricted-modules
[12:20] <QMario> Maybe it is just GAIM.
[12:20] <freddy244> sn9, ok
[12:21] <cosimo321> back to .mid files anyone?
[12:21] <penguin42> augustin: Which graphics card have you got?
[12:21] <JDigital> Haha, I restarted and suddenly sound is working in flash
[12:21] <JDigital> The old fashioned method of doing things works
[12:21] <QMario> Yes.
[12:21] <augustin> penguin42, integrated graphics, intel, on a laptop
[12:21] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together? i'm assuming this is a problem with GNOME loading the modules as i have explicitly tested PNGs in firefox and they work just fine
[12:22] <freddy> heya, i need to unrar a rar...that depends on a bunch of other r09...r10 etc...how do i go about extracting those files from console...thanks
[12:22] <QMario> Okay, I'm restarting.
[12:22] <ethan-allison> freddy: http://rarlabs.com
[12:22] <Nick_Hill> With every distro, and with most sound card drivers, MIDI appears to be an afterthought.
[12:22] <ethan-allison> get RAR for linux
[12:22] <freddy> i have rar
[12:22] <sn9> freddy: you need the pkg unrar-nonfree
[12:22] <freddy> thats why im using unrar
[12:22] <penguin42> augustin: probably your best bet is to turn off 3D acceleration - if you remove the line that says    Load "dri" from your /etc/X11/xorg.conf   it should do that
[12:22] <nalioth> ethan-allison: please dont do that
[12:22] <freddy244> sn9, they're already installed
[12:22] <Lupin[lvl] > anyone know?
[12:22] <ethan-allison> nalioth: do what?
[12:22] <freddy> sn9, eh?
[12:22] <samu2> nalioth: do you mean ext2fsd ?
[12:22] <augustin> penguin42,  the thing is: i'd like to be able to use my 3D accel =/
[12:22] <cosimo321> Lupin I didn't catch what you asked
[12:22] <johnsojr> How do I disable tapping on my touchpad?
[12:23] <LazyAngel> anyone knows the diffrence between suns java and blackdown?
[12:23] <Nick_Hill> The only way to change the MIDI situation os to file bug reports whenever you can't get midi to work.
[12:23] <ethan-allison> samu2: you want a ext2fs driver for windows
[12:23] <sn9> freddy: find /lib/modules -name *ndiswrapper*
[12:23] <pinguin_> Hello, how can I install a smartlink modem under ubuntu breezy?
[12:23] <nalioth> ethan-allison: we have many types of unrarring programs in the ubuntu repos
[12:23] <penguin42> augustin: Nod - most 3D drivers are somewhat touchy
[12:23] <zcat[1] > MIDI is designed to let instruments talk to each other; the whole 'computerplayingmidifiles' concept is an afterthought..
[12:23] <Lupin[lvl] > how can i make the ubuntu install files bootable from usb stick?
[12:23] <immothep> is there someone with have userdirectorys with php?
[12:23] <nalioth> ethan-allison: using non-ubuntu stuff isnt advised
[12:23] <nalioth> samu2: yes that's the one
[12:23] <cosimo321> all java has to be licensed by sun, it haad to be compiles with suns permission
[12:23] <Grandmaster> any way to anable bittorrentz over a heavily firewalled network
[12:23] <augustin> penguin42, no rush anyway, i'll look into that later... what bothers me now is how to check whether my webcam works or not... any software i should use ?
[12:23] <Lupin[lvl] > i tried just extracting the iso files onto the stick, but it doesnt seem to make it bootable (i tried all the settings in bios for booting from usb stick)
[12:23] <Grandmaster> e
[12:23] <cosimo321> so probably not much othere than the fonts suck big time
[12:23] <ethan-allison> nalioth: isn't that going against the "freedom" purpose of linux?
[12:23] <cosimo321> as they did in earlier sun java versions
[12:24] <MenTaLguY> hello, anyone here with a G3 iBook by any chance?
[12:24] <sn9> MenTaLguY: me
[12:24] <bina> !tell bina about universe
[12:24] <ethan-allison> MenTaLguY: yeah i got a bunch - i'll give you $100 to take one off my hands ;)
[12:24] <Coutsos> Hi everyone. I need some help setting up the wireless connection on my Acer Aspire laptop in Breezy
[12:24] <Grandmaster> *******any way to enable bittorrentz over a heavily firewalled network*******
[12:24] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. anyone using the regular nvidia drivers? does glx work for you?
[12:24] <nalioth> ethan-allison: rar is a closed commercial program, it is not linux nor is it 'free'
[12:24] <sn9> MenTaLguY: i'm on one right now
[12:24] <erUSUL> Grandmaster: no
[12:24] <Nick_Hill> One of the great selling points of the Atari ST is that it came with built in midi ports which always worked with any program you installed.
[12:24] <adamamyl> Grandmaster: re-write the firewall rules?
[12:24] <MenTaLguY> sn9: have you installed Breezy on it?
[12:24] <pinguin_> Hello, how can I install a smartlink modem under ubuntu breezy? <---did you readme
[12:24] <sn9> MenTaLguY: yes
[12:25] <cosimo321> glx does not work for me because of my card is a PCI not an AGP card
[12:25] <samu2> Are there any major differences between this ext2 and ext3?
[12:25] <Lupin[lvl] > cosimo321?
[12:25] <johnsojr> anybody know how to disable tapping on a laptop touchpad?
[12:25] <freddy> nalioth = grandmother
[12:25] <adamamyl> zcat[1] : yes. No. *grumble*
[12:25] <penguin42> samu2: ext3 is 'journalled'
[12:25] <mjr> samu2, yes, journaling
[12:25] <MenTaLguY> sn9: is everything okay for you audio-wise?
[12:25] <nalioth> samu2: ext3 is ext2 plus journaling
[12:25] <Grandmaster> not really - restrictive uni firewall - i dont have admin rights
[12:25] <zcat[1] > ahh, ok.. it's not just me then :)
[12:25] <penguin42> samu2: It means it is much better at surviving after a crash or power off
[12:25] <MenTaLguY> sn9: since I upgraded, the gstreamer alsa plugin and jackd do not appear to work
[12:25] <cosimo321> sorry lupin i still didnt catch it too many people talking
[12:25] <freddy244> sn9, it gave me two directories
[12:25] <sn9> MenTaLguY: it wasn't before i fixed it
[12:25] <Lupin[lvl] > how can i make the ubuntu install files bootable from usb stick?
[12:25] <MenTaLguY> sn9: what was the problem?
[12:26] <penguin42> Lupin[lvl] : Please don't repeat the same question that often
[12:26] <zcat[1] > at least I have a decent video mode now.. with 75hz rather than 60hz refresh!!
[12:26] <cosimo321> does your bios support booting from usb?
[12:26] <emb> anyone have a URL for setting up firefox with java, and multimedia codecs for breezy?
[12:26] <samu2> Why would you use ext2 then?`
[12:26] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together? i'm assuming this is a problem with GNOME loading the modules as i have explicitly tested PNGs in firefox and they work just fine. is there some config file that would possibly have broken?
[12:26] <Lupin[lvl] > it does
[12:26] <sn9> MenTaLguY: audio is completely broken on these machines, but the fix is easy
[12:26] <emb> i had a url for it before, and i misplaced it
[12:26] <freddy> "using blah blah isnt allowed.....saying blah blah isnt allowed" COME ONE! linux for human beings.....its free......we can share whatever ideas we want......we dont need a nalioth GATES telling us what to use or what we should not use.......
[12:26] <pinguin_> Does anyone know how to install a smartlink modem under ubuntu breezy?
[12:26] <adamamyl> zcat[1] : there's quite a bit on these sodding nvidia things, but _nothing_ mentioned in the logs from yester, or the !tell bot will work for me
[12:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell emb about javadeb
[12:26] <sn9> MenTaLguY: may i pm?
[12:26] <cosimo321> you have already set the bios up for that right?
[12:26] <Lupin[lvl] > i have
[12:26] <mjr> samu2, if you can't think of a reason, don't
[12:26] <freddy244> sn9, /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper and /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[12:26] <nalioth> freddy: use what you like, when your box breaks, we'll see you back in here
[12:26] <cosimo321> what did you put on usb drive
[12:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell emb about w32deb
[12:26] <Lupin[lvl] > i extracted the iso install files onto the stick
[12:26] <bina> there something up with ubotu? it just seems to be giving me i dont know answers
[12:27] <mjr> there are arcane situations when you might not want a journal though, like having a file-backed loopback mount...
[12:27] <Grandmaster> i hear that it is possible to transverse a university - heavily restrictive firewall to access such things as bittorrentz and p2p
[12:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bina about yourself
[12:27] <zcat[1] > adamamyl: yeah, most of yesterday's logs was me; I notice someone added nvidia-legacy to the wiki recently :)
[12:27] <Lupin[lvl] > but i know the boot section have to be in the first memory block of the stick, and im not sure how to go about it
[12:27] <cosimo321> through what app
[12:27] <nalioth> bina: ubotu is only the sum of his parts
[12:27] <sn9> freddy244: now dpkg -S on both those files
[12:27] <MenTaLguY> sn9: yes
[12:27] <Lupin[lvl] > winrar (^^;
[12:27] <Grandmaster> brb
[12:27] <cosimo321> on a windows machine?
[12:27] <Lupin[lvl] > yes
[12:27] <cosimo321> do you have nero?
[12:27] <Lupin[lvl] > i do
[12:27] <emb> nalioth, thanks
[12:27] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together? i'm assuming this is a problem with GNOME loading the modules as i have explicitly tested PNGs in firefox and they work just fine. is there some config file that would possibly have broken or maybe there's package i could reinstall?
[12:28] <cosimo321> you might want to try to let nero do that for you
[12:28] <augustin> anyone knows how to change the MTU of a network card ? preferably something different to just "ifconfig eth0 mtu XXXX" since that only lasts until the next reboot
[12:28] <samu2> mjr: But doesn't the ubuntu installer create an ext2 fs for you by default? Or am i mistaken?
[12:28] <cosimo321> directly onto the drive if possible
[12:28] <Lupin[lvl] > how?
[12:28] <Grandmaster> in abit yo
[12:28] <Grandmaster> easy now
[12:28] <cosimo321>  I would trust this app in windows more than winrar for this type of action
[12:28] <nalioth> samu2: ext3
[12:28] <mjr> samu2, 3
[12:28] <ethan-allison> augustin: put `ifconfig eth0 mtu XXXX` in your startup script
[12:28] <zcat[1] > augustin: probably somewhere in /etc/network/interfaces ..
[12:28] <adamamyl> zcat[1] : sodding things...
[12:28] <Lordphyn> can anyone tell me how to have my samba shares read/writable by all users? thanx!
[12:28] <cosimo321> nero uses GEAR burning engine. Top of the line
[12:28] <freddy244> sn9, i've done that
[12:29] <Grandmaster> how do i hack a pussy
[12:29] <bina> nalioth: :) the tell bina about repositories didnt work though, n something that i tried earlier and worked isnt working now
[12:29] <Grandmaster> me too
[12:29] <mjr> samu2, you might be confused by the installer first (apparently) creating the FS as ext2 and then converting it to ext3
[12:29] <zcat[1] > Grandmaster: ESR wrote a howto but I forget the url for it..
[12:29] <adamamyl> Lordphyn: something in smb.conf? writeable=yes, perhaps?
[12:29] <Lupin[lvl] > but i mean, im not sure how to copy files onto a usb stick from nero the cd writing program
[12:29] <Grandmaster> does anyone else think that fat chick's need love too?!?!?!?
[12:29] <augustin> ethan-allison,  i'd rather have it written in a config file
[12:29] <augustin> zcat[1] ,  thanks, it's exactly that, but i need the syntax =/
[12:29] <crimsun> Grandmaster: -offtopic.
[12:29] <Grandmaster> but they should totaly pay for it
[12:29] <sn9> freddy244: output?
[12:29] <Grandmaster> poop
[12:29] <nalioth> bina: hmm i use "repos" for a trigger
[12:29] <Lordphyn> adamamyl - i have ALL of those set, I think..I definitely have writeable set to yes
[12:29] <cosimo321> Well if you wait a few minutes I will try to burn breezy onto flash drive right now and let you know if it works
[12:29] <Grandmaster> poopi?
[12:29] <freddy244> sn9, nothing
[12:30] <Lupin[lvl] > that would be great
[12:30] <adamamyl> Lordphyn: have you restarted samba?
[12:30] <pinguin_> Does anyone know how to install a smartlink modem under ubuntu breezy?
[12:30] <Grandmaster> how about cock? does that float anyone's boat????
[12:30] <Lupin[lvl] > thanks cosimo321
[12:30] <sn9> freddy244: whaaa...
[12:30] <nalioth> msg chanserv op #ubuntu
[12:30] <spudse_> where can I find the starters guide ? (to enable mp3 etc)
[12:30] <Lordphyn> hmm adamamyl - is nfs any easier? it may have to do with the fact that its an external usb drive?
[12:30] <bina> nalioth: says it doesnt know again :)
[12:30] <cwetter> Is there somewhere I can find termcap?
[12:31] <freddy244> sn9, when I typed it I just got a "fred@linux:"
[12:31] <adamamyl> Lordphyn: 'easier' is quite subjective....
[12:31] <sn9> freddy244: dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[12:31] <zcat[1] > augustin: add the option 'up command-to-run' and it'll run that command when the interface is bought up..
[12:31] <freddy244> sn9, any ideas?
[12:31] <augustin> zcat[1] , ok will do, thanks
[12:31] <nalioth> bina: are you using any ! in your priv chat with ubotu?
[12:31] <penguin42> cwetter: termcap-compat ? (from apt-cache search termcap)
[12:31] <Dulak> sn9: it was the ~/.ICEauthority file
[12:31] <cwetter> penguin42, tried that but it doesn't seem to give what I'm looking for
[12:32] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together? i'm assuming this is a problem with GNOME loading the modules as i have explicitly tested PNGs in firefox and they work just fine. is there some config file that would possibly have broken or maybe there's package i could reinstall? i've been stuck on this for a while and i'd really like to figure out what
[12:32] <klvnn> Dulak, what is that :ICEauthority file?
[12:32] <sn9> freddy244: are you running the 386 kernel?
[12:32] <freddy244> sn9, that's what I typed
[12:32] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together? i'm assuming this is a problem with GNOME loading the modules as i have explicitly tested PNGs in firefox and they work just fine. is there some config file that would possibly have broken or maybe there's package i could reinstall? i've been stuck on this for a while and i'd really like to figure out what
[12:32] <klvnn> Dulak, my gnome doesnt start and it tells me i cant open that file
[12:33] <bina> nalioth i put !tell bina about repos
[12:33] <freddy244> sn9, I think so
[12:33] <penguin42> ethan-allison: FFS stop repeating your damn question
[12:33] <nalioth> klvnn: in your home directory. is is .ICEauthority
[12:33] <freddy244> sn9, I downloaded the i386 cd
[12:33] <nalioth> bina: when you are priv chatting with ubotu just use the keyword
[12:33] <Dulak> klvnn: delete it from your home dir and try again, for me it was owned by root instead of my user
[12:33] <ethan-allison> penguin42: i'm not i'm adding on to it to help people answer it
[12:33] <klvnn> Dulak, thanks
[12:33] <sn9> freddy244: that's not what i mean
[12:33] <ethan-allison> ok, so i can't get PNG images or TLS to work under any applications besides firefox - how would i put everything back together <--- original message
[12:33] <ethan-allison> and then look at my last message
[12:33] <bina> nalioth: hooray :) works :) silly me
[12:33] <amparo_pzzi> someone speak spanish???
[12:34] <nalioth> !es
[12:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:34] <bina> thanks nalioth will remember for next time :)
[12:34] <dooglus> #ubuntu-es I think
[12:34] <sn9> freddy244: the i386 cd has kernels for 386, 686, 686-smp, k7, etc
[12:34] <samu2> Anyone here who has installed this ext2fsd on an XP system?
[12:34] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Try   display    to display your png files (its in the imagemagick package)
[12:34] <ethan-allison> amparo_pzzi: que ubuto habl
[12:34] <amparo_pzzi> espaol
[12:34] <amparo_pzzi> ethan-allison,
[12:35] <freddy244> sn9, how do i check then?
[12:35] <sn9> freddy244: uname -a
[12:35] <niggpie> I'm having difficulty getting my Orinoco 8482-WD PCI a/b/g wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu 5.10. I've browsed the forums with no luck. It looks like Atheros drivers were automatically loaded, and i see it as ath0 in the network configuration.. but when I enable it, it takes about 3 minutes before releasing the mouse to me again.. and still no connection. Any ideas?
[12:35] <ethan-allison> amparo_pzzi: escribas /join #ubuntu-es
[12:35] <amparo_pzzi> ok gracias
[12:35] <amparo_pzzi> ethan-allison,
[12:35] <ethan-allison> amparo_pzzi: yup :)
[12:36] <goodtimes> is there a way I can install e17 and be able to choose to boot to e17 or gnome?
[12:36] <freddy244> sn9, 686
[12:36] <crimsun> augustin should have read interfaces(5)
[12:36] <Revellion> goodtimes: depends
[12:36] <Revellion> using GDM or?
[12:36] <nalioth> goodtimes: e17 is not available yet for ubuntu
[12:37] <sn9> freddy244: no mention of 386?
[12:37] <zcat[1] > is there any way to make glx/GL/GL2 work with the nvidia-legacy drivers?
[12:37] <Revellion> zcat[1] : eh???
[12:37] <Revellion> nvidia-legacy? ;)
[12:37] <goodtimes> well how about e16 and gnome
[12:37] <goodtimes> :D
[12:37] <ethan-allison> penguin42: i got it to display fine, but it said "display: /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6)" on the term
[12:37] <zcat[1] > Revellion: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:37] <nalioth> goodtimes: yes you can do that
[12:38] <freddy244> sn9, only in 2.6.12-9-386
[12:38] <goodtimes> nolioth: do you know how I would go about doing that? I just dont want to lose gnome and I want to check out e16
[12:38] <zcat[1] > how do I make it not-missing?
[12:38] <freddy244> it says 2.6.12-9-386 at the start and then 686 at the end
[12:38] <reiki> y'know...aside from everything else...I gotta say I'm enjoying the screensavers :)
[12:38] <Zealot87> i installed w32codecs on 5.10 but i still cant hear sound
[12:38] <krystoff> !ubotu tell sources
[12:38] <crimsun> ethan-allison: why is it loading libraries from /usr/local/lib/ ?
[12:38] <klvnn> YES !!!!!!
[12:38] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Ah - it looks like for some reason you have your own version of libpng in /usr/local/lib - I dunno where that came from - and that isn't being liked by everything else
[12:38] <sn9> freddy244: so it does say 386 in uname?
[12:38] <krystoff> !ubotu tell w32codecs
[12:39] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Have a spring clean of your /usr/local/lib
[12:39] <klvnn> sn9, thank you !!!!
[12:39] <krystoff> !ubotu tell krystoff sources
[12:39] <Revellion> zcat[1] : what do you mean by nvidia-legacy?!?!?
[12:39] <crimsun> ethan-allison: afterward, be sure to sudo ldconfig
[12:39] <sn9> klvnn: what did i do?
[12:39] <freddy244> sn9 it says both
[12:39] <penguin42> is anyone else seeing atkbd.c messages about unknown key 0xaa in dmesg?
[12:39] <krystoff> can anyone give me the cmd for ubotu plz ?
[12:39] <cosimo321> lupin I tried NERO and ait doesn not work
[12:40] <Zealot87> does anyone have any experience with easy ubuntu
[12:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell krystoff about yourself
[12:40] <Lupin[lvl] > :[
[12:40] <ethan-allison> penguin42: i.e. {as superuser} cd /usr/local/lib; mv * /usr/lib && ldconfig
[12:40] <cosimo321> It creates an image file and honestly I don't see a way of using nero to translatee that onto a flash drive.
[12:40] <zcat[1] > I installed the restricted-kernel..nvidia-legacy drivers 'cos I have an old card.
[12:40] <penguin42> ethan-allison: No!
[12:40] <crimsun> ethan-allison: absolutely NOT
[12:40] <cosimo321>  There must be an easier rout to take
[12:40] <krystoff> thx nalioth
[12:40] <nalioth> Zealot87: all we get in here re easy ubuntu is how it mangled the system
[12:40] <klvnn> sn9, you told me to install the smp kernel, to change to flgrx and to change the permissions of .ICEauthority :D
[12:40] <klvnn> everything works now
[12:40] <cosimo321> unfortunatley I am apparently not the one to give that advice
[12:40] <cosimo321>  sorry
[12:40] <adamamyl> zcat[1] : anything in the X log file, btw?
[12:40] <Lupin[lvl] > thats okay
[12:40] <Lupin[lvl] > thanks anyway cismo321
[12:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i find out why x isn't starting when i boot up (as in, gdm/kdm does not come up because x won't start, not that users can't log in from gdm)
[12:40] <Lupin[lvl] > cosimo321 (^^;
[12:40] <Revellion> zcat[1] : is'nt there a nice nvidia-glx to go along with it?
[12:41] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: what's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:41] <cosimo321> no problem didi you by any chance try getting midi to play on ubuntu?
[12:41] <nalioth> klvnn: you should just rm the .ICEauthority. it makes a new one each session
[12:41] <zcat[1] > yeah, nvidia-glx-legacy :)
[12:41] <isam> A box had been compromised because it had an easy to break password, and a public IP.. I am trying to fix things up.. I wanted to verify that all binaries in the system are the ones that came with the packages..
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i shall look
[12:41] <penguin42> ethan-allison: You  have some stuff in /usr/local/lib which has come from something other than ubuntu, some incompatible libraries; I would move them out of /usr/local/lib into something like /usr/local/lib/oldandbroken   and do your ldconfig and stuff might start to work - except what ever it was that you installed them for!
[12:41] <Zealot87> nalioth, damn, cus i just wanna get my audio working, but its not happening!!! grrrr
[12:41] <isam> what is te dpkg command for that ?
[12:41] <adamamyl> 'parently my kernel module's not loading, and screen doesn't have a usable config... one for tomoz, i think
[12:41] <crimsun> Zealot87: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[12:41] <LoneWolf071> which init level will make it boot to a text-login rather then the graphical?
[12:41] <freddy244> sn9, uname gives me: Linux Nexus 2.6.12-9-386 *date and time* i686 GNU/LINUX
[12:41] <Revellion> zcat[1] : and?
[12:41] <isam> like a check all command .. md5 check or something for all binaries
[12:41] <Revellion> zcat[1] : it should work automagically then
[12:41] <crimsun> LoneWolf071: Ubuntu doesn't play runlevel games. You need to disable gdm.
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot87 about mp3
[12:41] <penguin42> isam: If its compromised you can't be sure that whatever command you use won't be compromised as well
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot87 about sound
[12:41] <zcat[1] > (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[12:41] <sn9> freddy244: type: sudo depmod -a
[12:41] <zcat[1] > looks like it loads without error..
[12:41] <nalioth> goodtimes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6417
[12:41] <Lupin[lvl] > cosimo321: I'm still at the installation stage, thats why im trying to get the usb stick working, sorry (^^;
[12:42] <Zealot87> i installed w32 codecs, but still no sound on start up
[12:42] <Revellion> zcat[1] : how's your xorg.conf?
[12:42] <adamamyl> surely that's a good thing ;)
[12:42] <crimsun> Zealot87: answer my question, please.
[12:42] <nalioth> Zealot87: ubotu has sent you more info
[12:42] <Revellion> /dcc send revellion /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:42] <cosimo321> no problem  is there a reason you are not using a cd>?
[12:42] <Lupin[lvl] > i have no cds :)
[12:42] <cosimo321> AHH that's a good reason
[12:42] <zcat[1] > Nothing in the logs suggests anything is at all wrong, but mplayer -vo GL and glxdemo, etc all say there's no glx
[12:42] <pinguin_> rata a este directorio -->/usr/src?
[12:42] <sn9> freddy244: type: sudo depmod -a
[12:43] <krystoff> !sources
[12:43] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:43] <freddy244> sn9, I typed that. I was waiting for a few seconds as though it was processing something, but it didn't give an output
[12:43] <adamamyl> bugger. I forgot to run this in a screen...
[12:43] <cosimo321> no actual media or no burner/player?
[12:43] <ethan-allison> and now i just restart X?
[12:43] <sn9> freddy244: type: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:43] <Zealot87> crimsun, what question?
[12:43] <Lupin[lvl] > no media, i have blank dvds...
[12:43] <crimsun> Zealot87: give me the output from lspci -v|grep -i audio
[12:43] <Zealot87> nalioth, yeah im going through the info now
[12:43] <cosimo321> can't you burn it ot dvd?
[12:43] <Zealot87> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[12:43] <Zealot87> 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[12:43] <Lupin[lvl] > I dont know, can a cd image burn to dvd?
[12:44] <crimsun> Zealot87: and which card do you want to be the default?
[12:44] <goodtimes> thx nalioth
[12:44] <ethan-allison> Lupin[lvl] : yeah
[12:44] <Zealot87> uadigy
[12:44] <Zealot87> audigy*
[12:44] <crimsun> Zealot87: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:44] <cosimo321> I don't see why not unless there is a medi aconflict let me try that right now I will get back to you
[12:44] <Zealot87> 0 snd_intel8x0
[12:44] <Zealot87> 1 snd_emu10k1
[12:44] <Zealot87> 2 snd_mpu401
[12:44] <Lupin[lvl] > its ok cosimo321 dont need to waste a dvd, ill give it a try myself :)
[12:44] <crimsun> Zealot87: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:45] <Lupin[lvl] > thanks for your help!
[12:45] <sn9> freddy244: how now brown cow?
[12:45] <freddy244> sn9, i still get the same error
[12:45] <Zealot87> jake@ubuntumachine:~$ echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2"
[12:45] <Zealot87> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2
[12:45] <Zealot87> jake@ubuntumachine:~$ sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:45] <Zealot87> Password:
[12:46] <Zealot87> and its flashing the little rect box
[12:46] <crimsun> Zealot87: no, all one one line.
[12:46] <crimsun> Zealot87: press ctrl+c
[12:46] <sn9> freddy244: it can't find it?
[12:46] <Zealot87> jake@ubuntumachine:~$ echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:46] <Zealot87> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2
[12:46] <Zealot87> jake@ubuntumachine:~$
[12:46] <crimsun> Zealot87: now, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[12:46] <freddy244> sn9, it had the fatal error that i gave you ages ago
[12:46] <cosimo321> lupin give me two minutes it is buring right now
[12:46] <Zealot87> woah
[12:46] <adamamyl> and back...
[12:47] <Lupin[lvl] > no problem
[12:47] <Zealot87> crimsun, now my audigy isnt listed
[12:47] <crimsun> Zealot87: now, cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:47] <dell500> is there anything that i might need to backup before formating to put 5.10 on?
[12:47] <ethan-allison> ok, so i did     cd /usr/local/lib; mkdir scrap; mv lib* scrap; ldconfig
[12:47] <nalioth> dell500: clean install?
[12:47] <ethan-allison> and that didn'tdo anything
[12:47] <liorn> hi, if someone could help me with 5.10 installation... thanks
[12:47] <Zealot87> 0 snd_intel8x0
[12:47] <Zealot87> 1 snd_mpu401
[12:47] <Zealot87> 2 snd_emu10k1
[12:47] <nalioth> dell500: or upgrade from hoary?
[12:47] <dell500> nalioth, yup, clean
[12:47] <dell500> should i backup .gaim?
[12:47] <sn9> freddy244: try a reboot and on a fresh start, ndiswrapper -i foo.inf, modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:47] <nalioth> dell500: what you back up is up to you
[12:48] <crimsun> Zealot87: did force-reload fail?
[12:48] <penguin42> dell500: It wouldn't hurt would it....
[12:48] <nalioth> dell500: qtparted will shrink your ntfs partition, if you desire (need the livecd)
[12:48] <freddy244> sn9, i've rebooted but still no joy
[12:48] <Revellion> zcat[1] : well lend me the xorg.conf
[12:48] <Revellion> and i'll take a look
[12:48] <dell500> i downloaded the DVD
[12:48] <dell500> and it's burneD :)
[12:48] <dell500> i'm so excited
[12:48] <cheemp> does anyone know a good GUI for mysql that runs on Gnome ?
[12:48] <K7> hi everyone
[12:48] <freddy244> sn9, it's as though the kernel is blocking the module being added "operation not permitted"
[12:48] <sn9> freddy244: yes, but have you done so after the depmod -a ?
[12:48] <Zealot87> crimsun, it told me that it was reloading volume, and then three "new audio thingies" popped up
[12:48] <diskret> >sn9 thanks again - you really helped me !!! - bye to all
[12:48] <adamamyl> cheemp: mysqlcc
[12:48] <freddy244> sn9, no
[12:49] <freddy244> I'll try now
[12:49] <crimsun> Zealot87: tail -2 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:49] <zcat[1] > hang on. putting it up on pastebin
[12:49] <adamamyl> cheemp: well, it's as good as guis get...
[12:49] <liorn> my 5.10 installation gets stuck on "Configuring acpi-settings". Any ideas?
[12:49] <dell500> nalioth, i think the .gaim folder is like logs and stuff
[12:49] <K7> how do you shut down a program that's frozen?
[12:49] <dell500> personal settings
[12:49] <Zealot87> jake@ubuntumachine:~$ tail -2 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:49] <Zealot87> options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
[12:49] <Zealot87> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2
[12:49] <sn9> liorn: try acpi=off
[12:49] <cheemp> do you know how the apt package is called?
[12:49] <K7> synaptic froze on me
[12:49] <nalioth> dell500: what are you upgrading from?
[12:49] <adamamyl> K7: kill
[12:49] <dell500> hh
[12:49] <cosimo321> Lupin it burns and boots just fine
[12:49] <liorn> sn9: where do I do that?
[12:49] <crimsun> Zealot87: ok, then you'll need to reboot
[12:49] <bobbyd> cheemp, phpmysql
[12:49] <Zealot87> ok
[12:49] <K7> me reboot?
[12:50] <bobbyd> hi
[12:50] <shagg> yay for errors.  I got bogged down doing an upgrade in Synaptic (followed the instrs in BreezyUpgrade) and a) got a whack of perl errors during the install (falling back to the standard locale ("C")) and then it died trying to overwrite part of libofx0c102.  Can I force the issue through the command line?
[12:50] <Zealot87> ill be back if problems arise, thanks for the help crimsun
[12:50] <dell500> nalioth, hh
[12:50] <sn9> liorn: the boot prompt
[12:50] <Lupin[lvl] > okay, thanks for your help cosimo321 :)
[12:50] <cheemp> bobby,phpmysql?
[12:50] <penguin42> K7: Often if you just click the X on the window top right the window manager will ask you if you want to forcibly kill it after a few seconds
[12:50] <cosimo321> have fun
[12:50] <nalioth> dell500: why a "clean" install?
[12:50] <nalioth> dell500: ubuntu is designed so you keep your stuff during upgrades
[12:50] <dell500> nalioth, i've been havin' problems with dual screens and kubuntu conflicting with stuff
[12:50] <cosimo321> clean install for ANY os is best
[12:50] <Revellion> K7: xkill -9 \o/
[12:50] <K7> ya I've tried that, no dice, very odd
[12:50] <dell500> cosimo321, exactly :)
[12:50] <liorn> sn9: before I even start the installation? at the same place where I am given the option to press enter to start regular installation from CD?
[12:50] <zcat[1] > http://pastebin.com/394862
[12:51] <penguin42> nalioth: I'll admit to as an experienced debian/ubuntu user having had to fight for a few hours with a dist-upgrade and will probably do a clean next time (at least of /)
[12:51] <cosimo321> and you should low format the hard drove before you do anything
[12:51] <K7> and I have no idea how yo access a terminal
[12:51] <b3nw> for some reason I have both openoffice and openoffice2 installed, how do I remove the old one ?
[12:51] <nalioth> dell500: back up an .files in your homedire you want to keep, such as .gnupg and/or .gaim. things with your passwords and such
[12:51] <dell500> nalioth, this was a learning expierence, i know how to use ubuntu pretty well now.  earlier i was just doin' crap and a bunch of config files aren't working up to par
[12:51] <K7> it used to be in the menu but they took that out
[12:51] <dell500> what's gnupg?
[12:51] <sn9> liorn: where you select regular or expert or server
[12:51] <penguin42> b3nw: apt-get remove    or use synaptic to do the same thing
[12:51] <liorn> sn9: thanks, I will try that.
[12:51] <b3nw> oo synaptic kk thx
[12:51] <crimsun> ->dinner.
[12:51] <dooglus> gnupg is the GNU Privacy Guard - like PGP
[12:51] <cosimo321> NEVER upgrad an OS ESPECIALLY windows
[12:51] <adamamyl> K7: run gnome-terminal?
[12:51] <dell500> should i save my repos file?
[12:51] <jeff_> Anyone tried the oem install?
[12:52] <nalioth> dell500: just an example. baack up all your .files in your homedir that have your settings in them
[12:52] <dell500> ok
[12:52] <nalioth> dell500: no, the archives will be old anyway for breezy
[12:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun what should i be looking for in  /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:52] <dell500> nalioth, true
[12:52] <cosimo321> do you have scsi drives or ide
[12:52] <K7> .... there's no run button in the gnome menu
[12:52] <penguin42> nalioth: I hit a lot of conflicts during the dist-upgrade, I in the end had to remove some packages with dpkg -r  before I could get it to complete
[12:53] <dell500> thanks for the help
[12:53] <dell500> gonna go back down stairs
[12:53] <adamamyl> K7: ah, not managed to get my breezy up, how about Ctrl-Alt-f1 ;)
[12:53] <K7> omg, my bad I jsut found it under accessories
[12:53] <jeff_> K7: Add to Panel --> Run Application
[12:53] <cosimo321> OK guys I ll try once more I REALLY need to find a way to make .mid files play on Ubuntu.
[12:53] <freddy244> sn9, it's still not working
[12:53] <nalioth> penguin42: if you do a lot of your own compiling, a dist-upgrade can be fun (it was for me, at least....not)
[12:53] <cosimo321>  It is the only thing keeping me from staying with BeOS
[12:53] <cheemp> is there a mysql cc package for ubuntu ?
[12:53] <Revellion> cc ? O_o
[12:54] <K7> it's all good I wasn't looking it the right menu
[12:54] <adamamyl> cheemp:  yeap.
[12:54] <adamamyl> well, there was for Hoary
[12:54] <penguin42> cosimo321: have you done an   apt-cache search midi    and worked down the list?
[12:54] <Tuna42_2> i really like this live cd
[12:54] <sn9> freddy what happens if you insmod with a full path?
[12:54] <jeff_> cheemp: mysql-administrator I think
[12:54] <sn9> freddy244:  what happens if you insmod with a full path?
[12:54] <Tuna42_2> detected my wifi card right away!
[12:54] <K7> so if I wanted to kill synaptic from the terminal how would I do that?
[12:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> i need help.  x doesn't start to launch the login manager unless i use recovery mode and run gdm or kdm manually.
[12:54] <cosimo321> yes I have everything istalled and everything shows up but NO midi
[12:54] <penguin42> nalioth: I haven't got any packages I've built from source on here I don't think; I have got various bits of universe in however
[12:54] <adamamyl> k7: ps aux | grep synaptic
[12:54] <adamamyl> kill $process_id
[12:54] <adamamyl> (or is that too BSD'd ;))
[12:55] <shagg> I had my synaptic breezy upgrade die half-way through.  Can I force the upgrade through the command line (apt-get?)
[12:55] <freddy244> sn9, it doesn't give an error, but doesn't give an output
[12:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i'm currently in x in recovery mode.  will that log still show things from my last (failed) boot?
[12:55] <jeff_> K7: killall synaptic is the easier way
[12:55] <Revellion> shagg: apt-get -f dist-upgrade ?
[12:55] <adamamyl> K7: and if kill doesn't work, kill -9
[12:55] <sn9> shagg: apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:55] <cosimo321> make sure all the repositories are enbaled
[12:55] <Revellion> jeff_: or if it's persisten killall -9 synaptic :)
[12:55] <jeff_> Revellion: yes
[12:55] <nalioth> penguin42: that shouldn't stop a successful dist-upgrade, my G3 ibook hardly resembled ubuntu when i dist-upgraded and it was not fun
[12:56] <cosimo321> enabled if i could only spell curactli
[12:56] <Revellion> *persistent
[12:56] <sn9> freddy244: lsmod now
[12:56] <K7> so I would type kilall synaptic?
[12:56] <K7> kilal*
[12:56] <freddy244> sn9, but it still doesn't activate the card (add it to networking dialog like modprobe does)
[12:56] <Ksilebo> Wow...
[12:56] <K7> aaahhhhh killall
[12:56] <ethan-allison> K7: killall
[12:56] <ubuntu-> can someone help me with mounting my local hard disk on a live lubuntu system?
[12:56] <Ksilebo> English fails people in this channel.
[12:56] <jeff_> adamamyl: killall kills by process name. Since the binary is named synaptic, it isn't going to hurt anything
[12:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i checked Xorg.1.log Fatal server error:
[12:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> Caught signal 8.  Server aborting
[12:56] <ethan-allison> Ksilebo: haha
[12:56] <cosimo321> bye all
[12:56] <K7> ok thatnks
[12:56] <Revellion> ubuntu-: mount /dev/hd* /mnt/hd* ?
[12:56] <K7> thanks*
[12:56] <ethan-allison> penguin42: ok, so i did it and it didn't do anything
[12:56] <penguin42> nalioth: Well I remember I got a class between two openoffice packages in the dist-upgrade (openoffice.org2-help-en-us and openoffice.org2-calc) and there were some others that I had to also fix - it was a real fight
[12:56] <Revellion> mkdir /mnt/hd* first ofcourse where * is the letter
[12:56] <Ksilebo> It might be contagious...
[12:57] <penguin42> BROKEN_LADDER: Look back up that log - thats the last error
[12:57] <nalioth> penguin42: yes, the OO2 was a packager foobar
[12:57] <penguin42> ethan-allison: ?
[12:57] <Zealot87> crimsun, it didnt work, i heard a sound on login, but nothing now
[12:57] <chaps0063> is there anyway to get like the home and trash icons in gnome?
[12:57] <K7> excellent it worked with sudo
[12:57] <ubuntu-> i tried, it says mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /mnt/hd busy
[12:57] <K7> thanks very much
[12:57] <freddy244> sn9, can i pmsg you?
[12:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to see a normal /dir1/dir2/file view instead of the buttons in nautilus and file chooser?
[12:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's so annoying
[12:58] <Ksilebo> Does anyone have experience with dual head setups? I'm using 2 Dell 2005FPW monitors and a Radeon 9600. I can't seem to get the dual head part working when fglrx is enabled.
[12:58] <ethan-allison> penguin42: i moved everything in /usr/local/lib outta the way and ran ldconfig - it's no longer getting funky with error messages but it's still not loading any pngs
[12:58] <penguin42> nalioth: Ah it happens; I think one nasty was that I started the dist-upgrade before midnight and when I got to it the next morning it was complaining some package files were missing - I think the cron.daily apt clean up happened
[12:58] <ethan-allison> BROKEN_LADDER: nautilus --browser
[12:58] <Revellion> ubuntu-: hmm
[12:58] <ubuntu-> and i tried umount /dev/hdc, but it said its not mounted
[12:58] <penguin42> ethan-allison: So does display not load any of the images?
[12:58] <Revellion> ubuntu-: $ mount ?
[12:58] <Revellion> ubuntu-: also...
[12:59] <nalioth> penguin42: and if you did it within the last couple of days, the servers have been hammered
[12:59] <Revellion> do you have a dir to mount it on?
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> ethan-allison i have nautilus set to browser mode in gconf
[12:59] <Revellion> and mkdir'ed a nice /mnt/hdc ?
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> ethan-allison no that doesn't work.
[12:59] <ubuntu-> yes
[12:59] <Revellion> then it should be a simple matter to just mount /dev/hdc /mnt/hdcx
[12:59] <ethan-allison> penguin42: it works fine and it worked fine with the error message
[12:59] <Revellion> *hdc
[12:59] <ubuntu-> i know
[12:59] <Revellion> dmesg|tail ?
[12:59] <ethan-allison> penguin42: but gnome-panel and gaim don't work with em
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> ethan-allison i'm talking about seeing "/usr/share/icons/" instead of (USER) (SHARE) (ICONS) like buttons.
[12:59] <penguin42> nalioth: Hey yeh I did it last night - but my suspicion is that the apt-cache clean up needs tuning to leave stuff around for longer in that case
[12:59] <Revellion> does it spew any errors?
[01:00] <nalioth> penguin42: once a week perhaps?
[01:00] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Tried a restart in that case - I wonder if you have other stuff in /usr/local ?
[01:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i see the path in nautilus instead of the buttons.
[01:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm in breezy upgrade hell.
[01:00] <cheemp> nic
[01:00] <penguin42> nalioth: Well its got a setting for how long files have been there, so run daily but set it not to delete anything recent - or perhaps there is a bug in its determination of that?
[01:00] <cheemp> nice
[01:00] <ethan-allison> i dunno - looks like a new version of nautilus did that
[01:00] <nalioth> penguin42: you can do that
[01:00] <cheemp> now i need to figure out how to specify the root password for mysql hehehe
[01:01] <moo> BROKEN_LADDER, if you type "CTRL+L" it shows the path instead of the buttons, but it doesn't seem to remember the setting
[01:01] <chaps0063> how do i get the desktop icons (home, trash, etc) to be displayed?
[01:01] <GTroy> is easy ubuntu a horrible idea for the new to linux? http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/09/29/45-easy-ubuntu-23
[01:01] <ubuntu-> no error
[01:01] <penguin42> nalioth: My gut feel says that the default needs changing to leave it for 2 or 3 days, or for the dist-upgrade instructions to say to disable it - those of on 512k DSL lines need a good 3 or 4 hour download
[01:02] <nalioth> GTroy: yes it is
[01:02] <GTroy> thought so
[01:02] <Zerboxx> Breezy comes with networkmanager, right?
[01:02] <kent> nalioth, why?
[01:02] <nalioth> GTroy: so is ubuntuguide
[01:02] <GTroy> thanks nalioth
[01:02] <Coutsos> Where do downloaded packages go when using $sudo apt-get install -d PACKAGE ?
[01:02] <fforw> hi..
[01:03] <Revellion> ubuntu-: odd
[01:03] <GTroy> yeah, I've gotta fix some stuff because of u.guide
[01:03] <penguin42> Coutsos: Probably /var/cache/apt ?
[01:03] <nalioth> kent: b/c the easy ubuntu doenst take into account a lot of variables, and can hose your system badly
[01:03] <fforw> where was that nice ubuntu kernel build howto again? (explaining the debian way of making a deb etc)
[01:03] <kent> nalioth, well, thats true for most every system.. :)
[01:03] <Redrose> how do i start and stop services, such as SSH or HTTP?
[01:03] <bina> what package do i need to install to get k3b to burn and Audio CD from MP3?  I have Universe etc enabled in my sources
[01:04] <adamamyl> Redrose: /etc/init.d/$service $action
[01:04] <nalioth> bina: enable multiverse also (you're missing out w/o it)
[01:04] <adamamyl> Redrose: e.g., /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[01:04] <nalioth> bina: then just install k3b
[01:04] <adamamyl> Redrose: e.g., /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[01:05] <adamamyl> oops. dp'ing
[01:05] <bina> nalioth: i believe i have multiverse enabled, k thanks
[01:05] <ubuntu-> revellion: reason I'm trying to access the drive off a live edition in the first place is b/c windows won't load... could myhd b damaged or sumtin?
[01:05] <ubuntu-> my hd*
[01:05] <Redrose> and how do i change my screen resolution?
[01:05] <sunguy> 2 days with my first Debian based distribution, and I still haven't looked at the run-level/boot structure!
[01:06] <sunguy> OMG!
[01:06] <Revellion> ubuntu-: is the drive formatted using NTFS or FAT ?
[01:06] <nalioth> penguin42: your whole system will use them , if the program is aware of codecs
[01:06] <ubuntu-> revellion ntfs
[01:06] <bina> nalioth: woah, i said 'sudo apt-get remove k3b' and it now says itll remove k3b and kubuntu-desktop.  u know whats up with that?
[01:06] <adamamyl> Redrose: use the menu option or hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:06] <Redrose> sunguy:inittab? use gdm
[01:06] <Revellion> ubuntu-: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition number> /mnt/hdc then?
[01:06] <sn9> Redrose: invoke-rc.d
[01:06] <nalioth> bina: kubuntu-desktop is a virtual pkg, dont mind that msg
[01:06] <Revellion> and i bet it's hdc1
[01:06] <gusto5> i accitdentally setup pppoeconf twice, how do i remove one?
[01:06] <Redrose> in the menu it onlly gived me one resolution option
[01:06] <bina> nalioth: so it wont get rid of it?
[01:06] <penguin42> nalioth: Well gmplayer is playing them, but I could swear totem used to at one point
[01:06] <sunguy> invoke?
[01:06] <nalioth> ubuntu-: tell redeeman about fixres
[01:07] <bina> nalioth: oooh right, i see :)
[01:07] <sn9> penguin42: totem-xine
[01:07] <adamamyl> gAh! this server allows root@* !
[01:07] <kbrooks> bina: the package not the deps
[01:07] <penguin42> sn9: Ah yes you are right - I forgot about that
[01:07] <Zerboxx> Does Breezy come with networkmanager and ndiswrapper (or are they available in synaptic)?
[01:07] <DShepherd> i'm need the gcc 3.4 compiler where can I download it from. I'm on a windows box
[01:07] <krystoff> do you know a good gmail checker for gnome ? with preview of the mail ? plz
[01:07] <sn9> Zerboxx: same thing, really
[01:08] <Zerboxx> sn9: but is it there?
[01:08] <jaramillo> DShepherd, have you tried DevC++ ? http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
[01:08] <gusto5> anyone know how to remove pppoeconf entries/
[01:08] <DShepherd> jaramillo: nope...should I?
[01:08] <jaramillo> yes
[01:09] <jaramillo> thats what i use when i'm working in windows ;-)
[01:09] <sunguy> cd /etc/
[01:09] <sunguy> oops
[01:09] <sn9> Zerboxx: yes, synaptic has it
[01:09] <DShepherd> i'm need the gcc 3.4 compiler for my linux box where can I download it from. I'm on a windows box
[01:09] <sunguy> what calls the rc scripts at bootup?  rc.conf???
[01:09] <ethan-allison> alright so i renamed /usr/local to something else and then ldconfig'ed again
[01:09] <DShepherd> jaramillo: srry...I left out some info
[01:10] <ethan-allison> still nothing
[01:10] <Xaivier> Hello all, could someone please help me I have been trying to get my 5.1 to work with Unbuntu does anyone know what driver I might need or maybe software package.
[01:10] <Zerboxx> sn9: do you know offhand if networkmanager and ndiswrapper work well together? (I ask, because I'm currently on my M$ box)
[01:10] <Revellion> DShepherd: if the channel you are on is any indication of what distro is runned on that box...
[01:10] <Revellion> then apt-get install gcc-3.4 should do it
[01:10] <sunguy> ALL> what calls the rc scripts at bootup?  rc.conf???
[01:10] <DShepherd> yup Revellion
[01:10] <ethan-allison> penguin42: any more ideas?
[01:10] <Revellion> or maybe it was gcc-3.4-base
[01:11] <brodmann> how do i uninstall vmware?
[01:11] <nalioth> Revellion: gcc-3.4 is correct
[01:11] <DShepherd> Revellion: I need it compile a driver for my modem. I;m on dialup
[01:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't get x to start when booting.  gdm/kdm never comes up, and my monitor goes to sleep.
[01:11] <penguin42> ethan-allison: So if display works and firefox works - what exactly is it that doesn't work?
[01:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone have any ideas?
[01:11] <ubuntu-> revellion: still no dice... and ive gone to /dev and i see hdc there...
[01:11] <penguin42> BROKEN_LADDER: What's the last thing you see before it goes blank?
[01:12] <ethan-allison> penguin42: gnome-panel, gaim, etc
[01:12] <ethan-allison> GTK apps, i think
[01:12] <sn9> Zerboxx: not sure what networkmanager is
[01:12] <gusto5> no one can help me remove an extra pppoe entry?
[01:13] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Weird
[01:13] <ethan-allison> penguin42: how helpful ;)
[01:13] <DShepherd> i'm need the gcc 3.4 compiler for my linux box where can I download it from. I'm on a windows box. i need it compile a driver for my modem.
[01:13] <penguin42> ethan-allison: What do you see for    ldd `which gaim`|grep -i png
[01:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 let me explain it better than that.  if i push power, right before it turns off, i see the screen come back on and it shows all the text up to the text "login" that usually comes up right before gdm starts.
[01:14] <spudse_> is it correct that frozen-bubble is not in the repositories ?
[01:14] <magmini> 4 gig of space is it enough for installing ubuntu?
[01:14] <thirso> How can i reinstall my sound card? its not bein shown at gstreamer-properties anymore
[01:14] <penguin42> spudse_: apt-cache shows it there
[01:14] <Dynamite> sn9: Your the best !!!!
[01:14] <DShepherd> spudse your correct
[01:14] <fforw> can someone give me the link to that very nice ubuntu custom kernel compile howto?
[01:14] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone ever solved the issue of hanging on resume from hibernate/sleep when using the fglrx drivers for ati?
[01:15] <penguin42> BROKEN_LADDER: Does ctrl-alt-f1 work when it is apparently blank?
[01:15] <ethan-allison> penguin42:  libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0xb7a1c000)
[01:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 no.  that does nothing.  if i hit ctrl-alt-backspace, the monitor sputters "back on" then goes right  back off, with no visual on the screen.
[01:15] <penguin42> ethan-allison: That's the same as for me
[01:15] <nalioth> fforw: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:15] <spudse_> penguin42, how do I make a list of all apps?
[01:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 if i completely erase xorg.conf, the monitor stays on, but it says it can't display whatever is being fed to it.
[01:15] <DShepherd> Does the default ati with ubuntu allows hardware acceleration
[01:16] <penguin42> spudse_: Not sure - but you can do things like    apt-cache search frozen-bubble
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 this is all just since upgrading to breezy.
[01:16] <nalioth> spudse_: all the apps for what?
[01:16] <dmlinux> hey guys, trying to use SAMBA to connect my 3rd HD on linux to a windows XP , when i try to access the HD from windows, its asking for a Username and password, how do i set this ??
[01:16] <ethan-allison> penguin42: ok, NOW i'm getting worried :P
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 if i log in through recovery mode, i can run gdm as root and everything seems fine.
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 er, kdm in my case.
[01:16] <iw> damn
[01:16] <iw> im sitting here trying to figure out why i dont have rw access on my usb drive, its ntfs
[01:17] <troth> i installed breezy as recommended in here with the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, but now the desktop will not load at all and i cannot run a live cd from my dvd drive pls help
[01:17] <ethan-allison> penguin42: WAITWAITWAIT, could it be that the gtk-dev and glib-dev libs are messing stuff up?
[01:17] <spudse_> penguin42, it gives me all kind of errors like: "couldnt stat source package list"
[01:17] <DShepherd> Does the default ati with ubuntu allows hardware acceleration
[01:17] <jackster> anyone have any hints on my prob? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743
[01:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 the most frustrating thing is, i would think there is some log i can just look in to see what happened.  but i've looked in several and i don't see anything totally obvious.  i don't know how to see what came up the last time i didn't use recovery mode.
[01:17] <DShepherd> Does the default ati driver with ubuntu allows hardware acceleration
[01:17] <penguin42> ethan-allison: no unlikely
[01:17] <thirso> Can anyone please tell me a way to redetect and reinstall my sound card?
[01:18] <penguin42> spudse: Do an apt-get update first
[01:18] <Cody`> anyone know why I'm having so many issues with apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:18] <dmlinux> penguin42 do you know about Samba driove sharing between linux/windows?
[01:18] <penguin42> BROKEN_LADDER: Well /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the normal place to look
[01:18] <Cody`> openssh-server failed
[01:18] <penguin42> dmlinux: Well I could probably hack it - but it ain't pleasent
[01:18] <ethan-allison> penguin42: well this all started when i tried to install the new beta gaim from cvs
[01:18] <jackster> anyone? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743
[01:18] <spudse_> penguin42, It errors: "could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock (13 Permission denied)
[01:18] <nalioth> spudse_: use sudo
[01:19] <krystoff> hi there plz i can't find the art-manager ?
[01:19] <antlion> Is it possible that a specific wireless router may not work with ubuntu?
[01:19] <DShepherd> Does the default ati driver with ubuntu breezy allow hardware acceleration
[01:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 that doesn't have time stamps. i have no idea what is from when.
[01:19] <erUSUL> DShepherd: for what? 3d, 2d, video...
[01:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 wouldn't that tell me the output of my current x session?
[01:19] <spudse_> nalioth: ofcourse :) ty
[01:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 i'm in x right now.
[01:19] <dmlinux> penguin42 well in breezy i can use the Samba , and ive got it recognized in my GFs pc, but its asking for a UN/PW do you know how i set this?
[01:19] <DShepherd> 2d and 3d
[01:19] <psycode> Can someone check and tell me if he has "tleds" in /etc/init.d/ ?
[01:19] <DShepherd> video too :)
[01:19] <nokm> I just upgraded to breezy and I got missworking my laptop touchpad
[01:19] <niggpie> nooowe have no walmart here
[01:19] <niggpie> [17:05:48]  karalee--to the rescue! says:
[01:19] <niggpie> from total pet..and you buy like a cool shaped plastc jar thing
[01:19] <rafx> any chance of Lighttpd being added to Ubuntu?  it looks like it stalled in Debian because the person responsible is away (moving across country i think)
[01:19] <thirso> Can anyone PLEASE tell me a way to redetect and reinstall my sound card?
[01:19] <penguin42> BROKEN_LADDER: Yes it will give you current run, but there is also an Xorg.0.log.old I think that will be the last run
[01:19] <magmini> where can i get the guide for installing ubuntu for multiple flatform
[01:20] <psycode> nokm, what happened ?
[01:20] <penguin42> dmlinux: Nah I'd have to grovel around and hack it myself - its not something I foten do
[01:20] <psycode> and can someone just check what "ls /etc/init.d/tleds" gived him ?
[01:20] <nalioth> rafx: if the debian source is available, you can install it on YOUR machine
[01:20] <dmlinux> penguin42 ah ok, ill ask it again in the channel
[01:20] <dmlinux> hey guys, trying to use SAMBA to connect my 3rd HD on linux to a windows XP , when i try to access the HD from windows, its asking for a Username and password, how do i set this ??
[01:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> penguin42 hmm..i'll reboot then and try to get a look at what's happening..
[01:21] <spudse_> Does this <Broken packages> when apt-getting means my reps are broken ?
[01:21] <ethan-allison> penguin42: so what do you think the compile/install process did to my pngs?
[01:21] <nalioth> dmlinux: use YOUR linux user/pass
[01:21] <sn9> DShepherd: depends on which card
[01:21] <nokm> psycode: my touchpad isn't working as befeore does
[01:21] <DShepherd> sn9: Radeon 9200 SE
[01:21] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Damned if I know! The only thing I can think of is that it was something to do with you having that other version in /usr/local
[01:21] <dmlinux> nalioth i did and it comes up Blaire/dm and my pw, and it doesnt let me in
[01:21] <jackster> anyone have any ideas on this? no sound in Firefox after Breezy upgrade http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743
[01:21] <nokm> psycode: it is very stupid thing but clicking is more difficult
[01:21] <sn9> DShepherd: not for that one. you need fglrx
[01:21] <rafx> nalioth: true, but it wouldn't benefit from automatic security updates, etc. from cron
[01:22] <nalioth> dmlinux: bah. samba is a concession to microsoft
[01:22] <psycode> nokm, i have no idea, sorry
[01:22] <sunguy> Redrose> Thanks inittab points out /etc/init/rc
[01:22] <penguin42> nalioth: Yeh but NFS is such a PITA
[01:22] <ethan-allison> penguin42: well i made /usr/local inaccessable and re-ran ldconfig
[01:22] <dmlinux> nalioth what?
[01:22] <nalioth> rafx: that'd be up to you to keep it current
[01:22] <DShepherd> sng: where can i get that?
[01:22] <psycode> nokm, could you do me a favor and run "ls /etc/init.d/tleds" ?
[01:22] <penguin42> ethan-allison: Nod - the only thing I can think of is that it was used during install or something - but I can't really think what
[01:22] <nokm> psycode: ok
[01:23] <nalioth> dmlinux: samba is a concession to microsoft protocols (the smb protocol)
[01:23] <DShepherd> sn9 apt-get install flgrx works?
[01:23] <erUSUL> DShepherd: i have 3d acceleration with the radeon driver (man radeon) on my 9250 (r200 as yours)
[01:23] <rafx> nalioth: then that defeats the primary benefit of choosing ubuntu or debian
[01:23] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone ever solved the issue of hanging on resume from hibernate/sleep when using the fglrx drivers for ati?
[01:23] <nokm> psycode: I dont have thath file
[01:23] <nalioth> rafx: patience, then
[01:23] <sn9> DShepherd: xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:23] <dmlinux> nalioth ok, do yo uknow how i set it so i can access?
[01:23] <jackster> yo! any help at all? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743
[01:23] <rafx> nalioth: hehe, well said
[01:23] <nalioth> dmlinux: i dont have any idea, i havent owned a windows machine in years
[01:23] <sn9> DShepherd: you also need linux-restricted-modules
[01:23] <DShepherd> erUSUL: huh?  I dont understand what you said
[01:23] <psycode> nokm, thanks
[01:23] <dmlinux> nalioth DOH!
[01:23] <b3nw> has anyone gotten pureftpd working ?
[01:24] <thirso> Can anyone PLEASE tell me a way to redetect and reinstall my sound card? just reboot or what?
[01:24] <penguin42> nalioth: The world has windows boxes - we have to live with that fact for the moment
[01:24] <sn9> thirso: alsaconf
[01:24] <erUSUL> DShepherd: use the radeon driver on your xorg.conf. Is open source not binary only from ati
[01:25] <erUSUL> DShepherd: it has 3d accel for the r200 the chip of your card
[01:25] <sn9> erUSUL: i thought 9200 was r300
[01:26] <thirso> sn9, bash: alsaconf: command not found
[01:26] <Inz-> Hello? My firefox segfaults when I try to go to a website, and synaptic crashes as soon as I try typing in my password, and gaim just crashed when I tried to copy/paste some formatted text from mozilla (which I had to install just to get a working browser), is this a common thing?
[01:26] <erUSUL> sn9: DShepherd i have a 9250 and is r200 series (r280)
[01:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> my problem fixed itself, as is always the case.  now tor is working again too.
[01:26] <Inz-> it seems like every gnome app is falling apart now, heh
[01:26] <banqueiro> ol
[01:26] <DShepherd> erUSUL: ok thanks will try that
[01:26] <bridgetd> the breezy java is making azureus report itself funkily to trackers.
[01:26] <brodmann> hey, i'm trying to install vmware, after previously trying unsuccesfully, but now it's telling me that a previous installation has been detected
[01:26] <bridgetd> how can i get rid of it?
[01:26] <brodmann> how do i get rid of it
[01:26] <sorush20> guys how do I get my system to move to karamba, I have installed the karamba from synaptic but when I run it from the terminal there is not change to my system..
[01:27] <brodmann> whoa
[01:27] <bridgetd> jynx brettcar
[01:27] <bridgetd> err brodmann
[01:27] <DShepherd> erUSUL: just grab the opensource from ati download page. That;s wat you saying
[01:27] <brodmann> ha
[01:27] <shagg> I'm upgrading to breezy through apt-get and am getting a load of perl warnings that setting my locale has failed.  should I be worried?
[01:27] <thirso> banqueiro, #ubuntu-br
[01:27] <penguin42> Inz-: Have you tried running a ramtest on your machine? Random crashes are often hardware problems (not always - but its wortha  check)
[01:27] <jackster> does anyone have any advice? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743
[01:27] <penguin42> shagg: I got loads of those as well...
[01:27] <shad0w1e> is breezy already stable? Because I haven't seen any updates for a wile!!!!
[01:27] <bridgetd> hmm this place is busy.  im gonna go look through the forums some more maybe :\
[01:27] <Inz-> penguin42,  Well, ubuntu has been running properly for a few days now, I doubt my ram has suddenly gone bad. :)
[01:27] <penguin42> Inz-: It happens
[01:27] <sn9> DShepherd: that's not what erUSUL said
[01:27] <nalioth> shad0w1e: breezy released on the 13th
[01:27] <shagg> penguin42: and?  did they change the price of tea in China?
[01:28] <DShepherd> sn9 kool thanks
[01:28] <shad0w1e> nalioth, 4 days early... that makes sense
[01:28] <penguin42> shagg: Yes, quite commonly - but personally I'm a chocolate drinker
[01:28] <Inz-> right, how do I run a ram test then? :)
[01:28] <shad0w1e> SO WHY CANT I GET MY NVIDIA WORKING !!???
[01:28] <FliesLikeABrick> shad0w1e,  calm down
[01:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome sessioning is very bad at making apps start on the same workspace they were on when i closed.
[01:28] <erUSUL> DShepherd: no it comes by default with ubuntu (man radeon).
[01:28] <shagg> penguin42: *lol* so did the warnings matter or not?
[01:28] <shad0w1e> and where's the gui startup screen they promised?
[01:28] <penguin42> Inz-: You should find in your boot menu there is a memtest - leave that going for a while or even better over night
[01:29] <sn9> shad0w1e: what did you do to try to get it working?
[01:29] <DShepherd> erUSUL: ooooh ok thanks
[01:29] <Inz-> okay
[01:29] <das> anyone having issues when editing their sources.list to retrieve packages from the 'universe' ?
[01:29] <penguin42> shagg: I don't think so, I didn have to fight some conflicts but I don't think they were related to those perl errors
[01:29] <shad0w1e> sn9 installed nvidia-glx and changed my driver from nv to nvidia
[01:29] <Inz-> I suppose it isn't some grand bug that has been let through the repositories, 'cause then you guys would've realized this immediately
[01:29] <FliesLikeABrick> das,  backports arent up yet
[01:29] <shad0w1e> I also downloaded the driver from nvidia
[01:29] <sn9> das: works for me
[01:29] <Inz-> so I suppose there's something at work here. =)
[01:29] <shad0w1e> and it couldn't built it using my kernel source for some reason
[01:29] <penguin42> Inz-: Its always possible you are hitting something to do with your particular configuration - so it could be a bug
[01:29] <sn9> shad0w1e: do no dowload from nvidia
[01:29] <Inz-> yeah, I just can't think of what I would have changed to make everything bug. :/
[01:29] <shad0w1e> ok well that install never went well so I'm fine over tehre
[01:30] <shagg> penguin42: I got a boat-load of errors trying to upgrade through synaptic.  I'm now doing a forced upgrade through terminal.  so far so good.  things are generally stable for you though?
[01:30] <Inz-> I installed qtparted. :p
[01:30] <sn9> shad0w1e: install linux-restricted-modules
[01:30] <shad0w1e> Inz, DO NOT USE QTPARTED!!!!
[01:30] <Inz-> I haven't used it, I just wanted to look at it. :p
[01:30] <brokensystems> haha
[01:30] <penguin42> shagg: Yeh, I had to fight a few conflicts with dpkg -r which was a bit nasty, but after I completed dist-upgrade all is good from ehre
[01:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> changes i'm making in the menu editor aren't doing anything.
[01:30] <Inz-> is it that bad then? :p
[01:30] <shad0w1e> I am yet to see one operation that program uses that doesnt screw up your partitions
[01:30] <liorn> why not shad?
[01:30] <shad0w1e> seriously evry time I used it I ended up with a bad partition
[01:30] <shad0w1e> EVERY TIME!!!
[01:30] <Inz-> haha :p
[01:30] <shagg> penguin42: gotta love the nailbiter routine on upgrading.
[01:30] <brokensystems> Inz-, I used QTparted but I like Gparted better
[01:30] <shad0w1e> i was using 0.4.4
[01:30] <Inz-> I'll keep that in mind
[01:30] <FliesLikeABrick> shad0w1e, you're quite the high strung person
[01:30] <thirso> sn9, i dont have alsaconf
[01:30] <brokensystems> :)
[01:30] <Inz-> aha
[01:30] <Inz-> Gparted sounds more like my thing too
[01:31] <vbgunz> anyone know how to automatically clean the desktop by name on login?
[01:31] <das> hmm, i uncomment the two lines under the 'universe' disclaimer, and when i run synaptic i receive errors starting that it is unable to stat the source package list
[01:31] <shad0w1e> lol no I just know how to get attention
[01:31] <sn9> thirso: what soundcard?
[01:31] <shad0w1e> heh
[01:31] <thirso> sn9, C-Media
[01:31] <DShepherd> does anyone know where I can download gcc 3.4 for my ubuntu linux box. I need it to compile a driver for my modem. I'm logged into windows right now
[01:31] <das> stating*
[01:31] <sn9> das: did you click Reload?
[01:31] <shad0w1e> sn9, theres no package called linux-restricted-modules
[01:31] <thirso> sn9, it was working but i tried to install oss and its not working anymore
[01:31] <Kyral> apt-get....oh wait a second...
[01:31] <FliesLikeABrick> DShepherd, apt-get ?
[01:31] <Inz-> well, alrighty. I'll be trying some stuff out. --->
[01:31] <Kyral> He can't....
[01:31] <FliesLikeABrick> ah
[01:31] <penguin42> DShepherd: From within ubuntu do    sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:31] <FliesLikeABrick> right.
[01:31] <_P_> is there someone with an amd64?
[01:32] <niggpie> I'm having difficulty getting my Orinoco 8482-WD PCI a/b/g wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu 5.10. I've browsed the forums with no luck. It looks like Atheros drivers were automatically loaded, and i see it as ath0 in the network configuration.. but when I enable it, it takes about 3 minutes before releasing the mouse to me again.. and still no connection. Any ideas?
[01:32] <goodtimes> how do I fix my apt sources list file so that if I dont have a public key to an archive it works anyways?
[01:32] <sn9> shad0w1e: yes there is. it's in the restricted repository
[01:32] <FliesLikeABrick> penguin42,  he doesn't have his modm up
[01:32] <FliesLikeABrick> modem*
[01:32] <Kyral> He needs it to compile the driver for his modem :P
[01:32] <shad0w1e> sn9, oh let me look at my sources.list
[01:32] <DShepherd> penguin42: the package is not thre
[01:32] <DShepherd> there*
[01:32] <das> sn9, i did not =/
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> whats up everybody!
[01:32] <FliesLikeABrick> DShepherd, obtain a ubuntu install cd?
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> shade is in the house....
[01:32] <sorush20> what is an skz file I can't open it..
[01:32] <shad0w1e> sn9, oh interesting, when I dist-upgraded to breezy, it recommented it out!!
[01:32] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: breezy cd  will do?
[01:32] <sn9> das: there's your problem then
[01:32] <shad0w1e> thanks
[01:33] <FliesLikeABrick> DShepherd, breezy cd has gcc 4 on it, if thatll work for you
[01:33] <das> sn9, ty ;)
[01:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> BREEZY = train wreck
[01:33] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: no I need gcc 3.4
[01:33] <FliesLikeABrick> DShepherd, check what comes on the hoary install cd
[01:33] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: A hoary cd then?
[01:33] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: ok
[01:33] <adisse> how do i get trash icon/launcher on the desktop?
[01:33] <foampeace> hi
[01:33] <masterloki> hi there I'm removing programs I won't use, but when I try to remove evolution it also wants to remove gnome-applets and other gnome things, what can I do??
[01:33] <penguin42> DShepherd: apt is showing gcc-3.4 also availalbe in the main pool on breezy, don't know if its on the CD, but it definitly looks like its in the repositories via apt
[01:33] <adisse> i can only get it in the panel
[01:34] <sorush20> what is an skz file I can't open it..
[01:34] <sn9> masterloki: you could keep it
[01:34] <sorush20> .skz
[01:34] <foampeace> is it bad to update a binary file of a package from a /usr/bin - will it mess up the package system?
[01:34] <DShepherd> penguin42: ok But I can get to use apt. I'm in windows
[01:34] <thirso> sn9, its a CM8738, its at the Device Manager but doesnt show up at gstreamer-properties
[01:34] <masterloki> sn9, Keep evolution?
[01:34] <penguin42> DShepherd: Ah so you mean you can't get to the network without building a driver with a compiler you haven't got?
[01:34] <sn9> thirso: is the module for it loaded?
[01:34] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: Do i need to add something to my repos so i can install gcc 3.4 from the cd
[01:35] <DShepherd> penguin42: precisely :)
[01:35] <thirso> sn9, how can i know?
[01:35] <foampeace> does it mess up the package system to update a binary file in /usr/bin with a newer one from a tarball?
[01:35] <sn9> foampeace: do not update contents of packages without dpkg
[01:35] <penguin42> DShepherd: Ah ok, so ftp to an ubuntu repository and get the file pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/gcc-3.4_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_i386.deb
[01:35] <das> sn9, do you recommend uncommented the last two lines in sources.list for 'breezy-security universe' ?
[01:35] <das> uncommenting*
[01:35] <penguin42> DShepherd: Do that under windows, get that into your Linux installation and install it with dpkg -i
[01:36] <sn9> das: uncomment everything and add extras
[01:36] <tryingsomething> anyong have issues with latest wow patch and cedega?
[01:36] <DShepherd> penguin42: thanks
[01:36] <thirso> sn9, says Device Type: unknown / Capabilities: unknown
[01:36] <DShepherd> will do
[01:36] <FliesLikeABrick> DShepherd,  comment out all apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list except the hoary cd
[01:36] <penguin42> DShepherd: You'll also need the files gcc-3.4-base and cpp-3.4
[01:36] <adisse> how do i get trash icon/launcher on the desktop? i can only get it in the gnome panel :/
[01:36] <sn9> das: also add multiverse
[01:36] <shad0w1e> ok I uncommented restricted and did an update. still no linux-restricted-modules there!
[01:37] <DShepherd> ok....
[01:37] <tryingsomething> so far ive gone back to windows playing games its that bad
[01:37] <shagg> ok, so now my apt-get -f dist-upgrade has failed.  any suggestions?
[01:37] <QMario> Welcome back Seveas!!! :)
[01:37] <spudse_> is there a way to boost firefox performance ? scrolling is very slow
[01:37] <shad0w1e> anything else I can do to try to get my nvidia working?
[01:37] <DShepherd> going to try FliesLikeABrick solution since I have a cd. Then penguin42 I'll try yours if that doesnt work
[01:37] <sn9> shad0w1e: you're on breezy, right?
[01:37] <spudse_> im running on amd xp 2400+ that really shouldnt be a problem
[01:37] <DShepherd> thanks FliesLikeABrick and penguin42
[01:37] <shad0w1e> sn9, yes
[01:37] <DShepherd> brb
[01:37] <QMario> I think Breezy is slow, but I don't have the CD to install from "scratch".
[01:37] <das> sn9: multiverse is related to the backports repositories?
[01:37] <vbgunz> When Ubuntu loads up... You 1st see the GRUB screen, then "What?" What is that image you see while the system loads... What is that called?
[01:37] <QMario> Totem freezes several times in Firefox, and the sound is distorted.
[01:37] <sn9> then it will be there as soon as you click Reload
[01:38] <shad0w1e> wn9 a dist-upgrade from hoary, whic was dist-upgraded from warty
[01:38] <sn9> das: no
[01:38] <mmahmood_> anyone knows how to open ports on Azueres with Linksys Router ???? (firewall on router is disabled & no firewall isntalled on ubuntu) ?
[01:38] <QMario> How do I fix these problems?
[01:38] <sn9> shad0w1e: then it will be there as soon as you click Reload
[01:38] <QMario> Tryingsomething, what game are you playing on Windows?
[01:38] <specialbuddy> how do I upgrade to breezy badger
[01:38] <specialbuddy> ?
[01:38] <sn9> mmahmood_: enable UPnP on the router
[01:38] <LazyAngel> what program do you use to rip cd's to mp3?
[01:38] <penguin42> specialbuddy: Read the link in the /title
[01:38] <specialbuddy> is there a site that tells how to do it?
[01:39] <QMario> Specialbuddy, don't.
[01:39] <shinu> hello everyone
[01:39] <QMario> Breezy freezes every 5 seconds.
[01:39] <specialbuddy> don't?
[01:39] <mmahmood_> sn9>> never knew there was a option on it ?
[01:39] <penguin42> QMario: Not for me it doesn't
[01:39] <QMario> At least it does for me...
[01:39] <sn9> specialbuddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:39] <penguin42> QMario: Hmm - anyhthing odd in a dmesg output ?
[01:39] <anatole> re
[01:39] <QMario> What is a dmesg output?
[01:39] <adisse> !java
[01:40] <penguin42> QMario: type dmesg
[01:40] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:40] <anatole> what's the default filesystem breezy offers during install?
[01:40] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's the minimum disk space req for a full installation of Breezy?
[01:40] <mmahmood_> sn9>> where is that option ?
[01:40] <QMario> dmesg
[01:40] <snooo> err
[01:40] <shad0w1e> ok, Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on 386 is installed
[01:40] <sn9> LazyAngel: it's called LAME
[01:40] <penguin42> QMario: Also another suggestion - put a disc in all your cd drives and preferably a floppy in your floppy drive and see if it stops pausing
[01:40] <shad0w1e> I'm using a 686 kernel toug
[01:40] <shad0w1e> is tat a prob?
[01:40] <sn9> mmahmood_: somewhere in the router's config
[01:40] <MR_NULL> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu in dual boot with Windows. Now first time after installing Ubuntu I can't boot to windows. Windoes starts. I see the Windows XP logo and than right after that I get BSOD.
[01:41] <shinu> :-[ WRITE@LBA=1e4170h failed with SK=4h/ASC=03h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error <== does this error tell you anything more apart from the last bit? its from k3b. i already wasted a few dvdrs trying to burn my stuff out...
[01:41] <MR_NULL> Any one can help or seen this?
[01:41] <tryingsomething> haha
[01:41] <erUSUL> LazyAngel: SounJuicer or grip
[01:41] <tryingsomething> linux attacked your windows
[01:41] <shad0w1e> sn9 wat do I do once restricted modules is installed ?
[01:41] <LazyAngel> sn9, erUSUL: thanks
[01:41] <sn9> shad0w1e: install linux-restricted-modules-686 then
[01:41] <penguin42> MR_NULL: Try deleting the Linux patitions and see if your windows boots ok then; if it does create the partitions under Windows before going into the Ubuntu installer
[01:41] <tryingsomething> not sure how to fix that error
[01:41] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's the minimum disk space req for a full installation of Breezy?
[01:41] <thirso> Can anyone please help me to setup my sound card?
[01:41] <Kyral> One gripe I have about Ubuntu. Rolling your own kernel can be a PAIN
[01:42] <erUSUL> LazyAngel: SoundJuicer i mean
[01:42] <JDigital> Kyral: Ubuntu isn't about rolling your own
[01:42] <sn9> shad0w1e: once it's installed, you can dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to select fglrx
[01:42] <penguin42> Kyral: Then don't - its the first distribution since I started with linux 10 years ago where I've not bothered
[01:42] <spanglesontoast> anyone know how to update from hoary to breezy?
[01:42] <MR_NULL> This is my first try Ubuntu and got problem right from start
[01:42] <JDigital> A friend of mine uses Ubuntu and he recompiled his own kernel lately
[01:42] <Negro> who here can help me?
[01:42] <shad0w1e> sn9, isn't fglrx for ati ??
[01:42] <JDigital> spanglesontoast: there's a link in the topoic about it
[01:42] <sn9> shad0w1e: sorry, nvidia, not fglrx
[01:42] <Negro> can someone help me?
[01:42] <Kyral> penguin42, I'm just bored and I want to slim it down and not need an initrd ;P
[01:42] <JDigital> Carpe_Libertatem: Mine is 3GB or so
[01:42] <penguin42> MR_NULL: Sorry about that; it sometimes falls that way
[01:42] <shad0w1e> sn9 or I can just edit my xorg.conf, no?
[01:43] <spanglesontoast> ah ty
[01:43] <penguin42> Kyral: Noone says you *have* to do it the deb way
[01:43] <JDigital> Negro: We can't help you unless you ask your question
[01:43] <Kyral> penguin42, good point...
[01:43] <sn9> shad0w1e: editing xorg.conf manually tends to mess up debconf
[01:43] <shad0w1e> I installed te nvidia-legacy restricted modules too, because I'm using a TNT2
[01:43] <shad0w1e> good?
[01:43] <MR_NULL> Is there something I can do to my windows fixed?
[01:43] <Kyral> the old fashioned way ;P
[01:43] <sn9> shad0w1e: yes
[01:43] <QMario> Penguin42, what kind of CD. The floppy drive can't read my floppies.
[01:43] <QMario> s/D./D?
[01:43] <penguin42> MR_NULL: As I say, if you are lucky then just deleting the Linux partitions might help
[01:43] <dmlinux> hey guys, trying to use SAMBA to connect my 3rd HD on linux to a windows XP , when i try to access the HD from windows, its asking for a Username and password, how do i set this ??
[01:44] <JDigital> Some days I want to register download-shit-to-your-brain.com
[01:44] <adisse> are there some pre-converted java debs for ubuntu somewhere?
[01:44] <shad0w1e> ok, I'll control alt backspace and see wat appes, tanks for all te elp! (my H is broken. sorry)
[01:44] <Negro> When I start up the Ubunti LiveCD and hit enter to go to boot it recognizes all the things plugged into my PC and all that, but then it just stops and it stays on the boot screen. What's wrong with it?
[01:44] <shad0w1e> gotta jam it to make it work
[01:44] <penguin42> QMario: Well the only thing I can imagine that happens every few seconds might be probing for discs put in - so put some in and see if it gets more responsive
[01:44] <sn9> shad0w1e: linux-restricted-modules should include both legacy and nonlegacy
[01:44] <QMario> Dmlinux,  man smbpasswd.
[01:44] <MR_NULL> penguin42 - Delete the partition using what tool?
[01:44] <erUSUL> dmlinux: you've been already told to use your linux user & pass
[01:44] <snooo> ppl, i have serious problems after updating to breezy from hoary
[01:44] <penguin42> MR_NULL: Use the Ubuntu install CD and follow it through to the parititoning and then delete just the Linux ones
[01:44] <QMario> What would dmesg do anyway? How do I know if something is wrong or not?
[01:45] <snooo> could someone walk me through rescuing my system?
[01:45] <penguin42> snoo: What type
[01:45] <thirso> Can anyone please help me to setup my sound card?
[01:45] <dmlinux> erUSUL That doesnt work, or else i wouldnt ask again..........
[01:45] <Negro> well...can someone help me?
[01:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> thriso, have you been to the wiki?
[01:45] <QMario> Hello MachineScrew!!! :)
[01:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> Negro - what's your problem?
[01:45] <shad0w1e> ok ready set go, im restarting X ! (thanks!)
[01:45] <Negro> When I start up the Ubunti LiveCD and hit enter to go to boot it recognizes all the things plugged into my PC and all that, but then it just stops and it stays on the boot screen. What's wrong with it?
[01:45] <QMario> Can you help me with Breezy's lag?
[01:45] <penguin42> QMario: Well its all the messages from the kernel, the ones at the bottom are the most recent, so if there is an error there every 5 seconds or so then thats probably whats causing your problem
[01:45] <MR_NULL> I would like to access my NTFS partition to copy some files just in case this will not help
[01:45] <MachineScrew> hello
[01:45] <erUSUL> dmlinux: in that case change the question to include the new info
[01:45] <sn9> thirso: is the module for c-media loaded?
[01:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> Negro, could be a bad burn, incompatible hardware...
[01:46] <thirso> sn9, how do i check that?
[01:46] <Negro> so, should I try to burn it to a different CD?
[01:46] <Negro> I have it burnt on a DVD
[01:46] <dmlinux> erUSUL do you know alot about samba?
[01:46] <snooo> penguin42: i have lots of packages complaining about dependencies on things that wont be installed, gdm wont start up, i cant seem to install ubuntu-base as it has a tonne of unmet dependences that again will not be installed. its a bit of a nightmare
[01:46] <sn9> thirso: lsmod
[01:46] <spudse_> Can someone maybe send me his sources.list ? because mine doesnt work. I want frozen-bubble, but it keeps saying that it doesnt exsists. While it is even documented in the ubuntu starters guide
[01:46] <snooo> i was using some backports
[01:46] <zenlunatic> whats the version after breezy?
[01:46] <erUSUL> dmlinux: not much sorry
[01:46] <MachineScrew> 6.04
[01:47] <lunarknight> I just did a dist-upgrade to breezy, the power icon says that my system is running on battery power, but I think it really is running on ac power, anyway to get it to display correctly?
[01:47] <dieguito> hello, where can i find the proper information to "port" my debian package to ubuntu, i adopted an orphaned one and now i would like to take my collaboration also to ubuntu
[01:47] <QMario> Wait 6 more months and then ask again. :)
[01:47] <humbolt> there is no opengpg support in gpgme packages!!! what's wrong? where can I find packages with compiled in support?
[01:47] <thirso> sn9, no it isnt
[01:47] <snooo> have tried apt-get -f install but it doesnt seem to have worked
[01:47] <dmlinux> Qmario do you know alot about Samba?
[01:47] <penguin42> snooo: I had to fight quite a bit to resolve all the dependencies, I ended up deleting some debs with dpkg -r   and then reinstalling them later (certainly the openoffice ones )
[01:47] <zenlunatic> does 6.04 have gtk2.8/cairo?
[01:47] <MachineScrew> remember the 1st num is the year the 2nd is the month
[01:47] <QMario> Not a lot.
[01:47] <penguin42> anyway, as I said - to bed!
[01:47] <sunguy> ok... Playing my first mp3 on Ubuntu...
[01:47] <sunguy> How do I make Rythbox the default app?
[01:47] <Mez> lunarknight, just try unplugging the power/rebooting
[01:48] <QMario> Dmlinux, you could always use SWAT.
[01:48] <QMario> !swat
[01:48] <sunguy> Rhythmbox
[01:48] <ubotu> hmm... swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[01:48] <Mez> lunarknight, acpi is prob having problems
[01:48] <MachineScrew> zenlunatic: probly but mad peguian has a review and how to get it
[01:48] <lunarknight> Mez, k~ thanks.
[01:48] <sn9> thirso: do you know which cmedia?
[01:48] <MachineScrew> zenlunatic: gtk2.8 is here now just no cairo
[01:48] <thirso> sn9, 8738
[01:49] <dmlinux> qmario im trying to share my 3rd HD over the network to a windows xp machiene, is swat better for that?
[01:49] <QMario> It's graphical.
[01:49] <sambagirl> i just install all these things from the universe thru synamptic and now i look for them on applications and ofcourse as to be expected nothign new there. sheehs. makes now sens. where do these things hiding from me?
[01:49] <adisse> is there some unofficial java repositorie for ubuntu somewhere?
[01:49] <Kyral> Anyone know if the latest kernel from kernel.org will compile with GCC 4?
[01:49] <sn9> thirso: module name is snd-cmipci
[01:49] <das> sn9, i uncommented the backports lines, and i hit reload, and an error comes up stating "Could not download all repository indexes"
[01:49] <sn9> adisse: yes
[01:49] <Ekibyougami> w00t, the new doom movie comes out soon
[01:49] <adisse> sn9, where?
[01:49] <sn9> das: except backports
[01:49] <thirso> sn9, how do i load it?
[01:49] <das> sn9, hehe k ;0
[01:50] <snooo> shall i just do apt-get -f install until everything works or should i try to methodically go through each file?
[01:50] <sambagirl> sn9 i did installs for multimedica universe and now i cannot find anytnign i just installed.
[01:50] <MachineScrew> Ekibyougami: its alot in the FP perspective
[01:50] <sn9> adisse: for breezy, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[01:50] <sambagirl> sn9 where does ubuntu put these things?
[01:50] <QMario> Every now and then, the CPU is used 100%.
[01:50] <adisse> sn9, thank you very much
[01:50] <MachineScrew> make me think blare witch
[01:50] <sn9> thirso: with modprobe
[01:50] <Ekibyougami> so watching the movie is gonna be like playing doom3 eh?
[01:51] <QMario> This is much worse than Windows XP, but I am not going back.
[01:51] <QMario> I've come to far to turn back. :-D
[01:51] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: i'm back. the gcc 3.4 compiler was not on the hoary cd
[01:51] <tryingsomething> i think its gonna suck bad
[01:51] <Ekibyougami> worse than xp?
[01:51] <tryingsomething> i dont want to watch what i have already played
[01:51] <QMario> Me?
[01:51] <sn9> sambagirl: what did you install?
[01:51] <MachineScrew> Ekibyougami: ya maybe if they do it right
[01:51] <Raozine> anyone know how to make RhythmBox display Cyrillic characters?
[01:51] <tryingsomething> i went back to xp - till cedega 5 is released and things get fixed for shaders
[01:51] <thirso> sn9, FATAL: Module snd_cmipci not found.
[01:52] <sambagirl> stuff
[01:52] <ep> join /kubuntu
[01:52] <sambagirl> musica stuff
[01:52] <snooo> moving from woody to sarge was easier than this
[01:52] <ep> nm
[01:52] <MachineScrew> tryingsomething: get doom3 for linux
[01:52] <sambagirl> i dont know now it is not showing up what i just installed becaues it is now insytalled and is not listed
[01:52] <QMario> Cedega 5?
[01:52] <sambagirl> what is cedega 5??
[01:52] <MachineScrew> I think HL2 is for linux as well
[01:53] <sn9> thirso: check your kernel .config file
[01:53] <QMario> MachineScrew, so what is the problem?
[01:53] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: alos you to play windows games
[01:53] <LoneWolf071> how do i specify what services i want the computer to boot?
[01:53] <sambagirl> wlw
[01:53] <sambagirl> haha
[01:53] <MachineScrew> QMario: what problem
[01:53] <sambagirl> just play in windows
[01:53] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:53] <dmlinux> qmario yay got it working !
[01:53] <QMario> Every now and then, the CPU is used 100%.
[01:53] <shadeofgrey> machine:  where does one acquire a copy of doom3 for linux?
[01:53] <ninjafish> HiddenFly, I am following some instructions to install a printer and I am being asked to type '/etc/init.d/cups restart' but in ubuntu cups is not in that directory. is cupsys equivalent?
[01:53] <Kyral> hmm, if I compile my kernel...with Kernel.org sources...will I need LRM and Headers?
[01:53] <Raozine> anyone know how to make RhythmBox display Cyrillic characters?
[01:53] <QMario> Dmlinux, thank God! :)
[01:53] <dmlinux> qmario why do you think this is worse than XP?
[01:53] <mirak> I am trying to use sqwebmail for courier, however I don't even know how to acces the webmail, wich port it is etcetera, I find really no info in /usr/share/doc/
[01:53] <Howitzer> i just downloaded BB and when i install the base system i can't install the kernel
[01:54] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: its supposed to make it to where you don't need windows
[01:54] <QMario> Breezy keeps on freezing.
[01:54] <dmlinux> Qmario yeah my GFs comp now can see everything on my drives :) yay
[01:54] <Ekibyougami> my cpu has yet to go over 40% and i have it throttled at 30%
[01:54] <Ekibyougami> err 50%
[01:54] <sambagirl> ahh
[01:54] <QMario> GFs?
[01:54] <dmlinux> qmario it shouldnt :(
[01:54] <QMario> XP doesn't freeze every 5 seconds.
[01:54] <Howitzer> i checked for errors on the cd and the kernel's MD5SUM's are faulty, how the hell is that possible?
[01:54] <Stricklin> I need some advice: I have a 250GB HD, and I'll be installing both Ubuntu 5.10 and Windows XP Professional x64 in a dual boot configuration. I'm considering keep my documents on their own partition, available to each OS. Any suggestions on partition sizes or order?
[01:54] <sambagirl> ok
[01:54] <sn9> Raozine: can you see them here in xchat? ????
[01:54] <dmlinux> Ati drivers install is sudo apt-get install ATI right?
[01:54] <sambagirl> well i install that too see what happens to not find it too.
[01:54] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: I gave up games
[01:55] <sambagirl> oh i love games
[01:55] <sambagirl> :D
[01:55] <sambagirl> lol
[01:55] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: that is why I bought a laptop
[01:55] <ninjafish> Sorry I meant to ask the whole channel, I am following some instructions to install a printer and I am being asked to type '/etc/init.d/cups restart' but in ubuntu cups is not in that directory. is cupsys equivalent?
[01:55] <Ekibyougami> strick, i use 10gb lin, 10gb win, 500mb swap and the rest is shared
[01:55] <sambagirl> ah
[01:55] <sambagirl> i see
[01:55] <QMario> MachineScrew, why did you give up games?
[01:55] <snooo> i'm consantly getting locale error messages in apt-get as well
[01:55] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: there are linux games some very adictive
[01:55] <sambagirl> but laptops today are superior to desktops
[01:55] <Stricklin> Ekibyougami, should order matter?
[01:55] <Ekibyougami> order doesnt really matter
[01:55] <njan> ninjafish, yes.
[01:55] <MachineScrew> QMario: got tired of them the same thing over and over
[01:55] <Raozine> sn9: well, I dont know if I can, Im just trying to listen to russian mp3's and it doesnt display the names..'
[01:55] <sunguy> What games are addictive?
[01:55] <Ekibyougami> but install windows before you install linux
[01:55] <LoneWolf071> how do i specify what services i want the computer to boot?
[01:55] <Xenthro> hey guys... my XF86Config-4.bak file doesnt exist... what the heck happened?
[01:56] <shad0w1e> sn9, thank you very much. all is working. I needed nvidia-glx-legacy instead of nvidia-glx, because I'm using an old TNT2 card.
[01:56] <Howitzer> i checked for errors on the cd and the kernel's MD5SUM's are faulty, how the hell is that possible??, (anyone who has a clue?)
[01:56] <sambagirl> yes i try to install games befvore using synaptic and i had to suffer war of gnome and kde thiny. so i wont try installing ubuntu games again. to much fighting with gnuome and kde war.
[01:56] <ninjafish> njan thanks
[01:56] <moo> quit
[01:56] <Stricklin> I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:56] <njan> LoneWolf071, use the GUI tool or apt-get install rcconf and run 'sudo rcconf' at the command line and use that.'
[01:56] <sn9> Raozine: ? ???????
[01:56] <Ekibyougami> xenthro, it should be xorgconfig now
[01:56] <shad0w1e> im out!
[01:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> where can i get a theme for gdm, not the "theme" thing, but the generic login type, where you just use your own background.
[01:56] <MachineScrew> no matter what game I played it was killem all and then what pat my self on the back
[01:56] <Howitzer> Xenthro: i thought ubuntu didn't come with XFree
[01:56] <njan> LoneWolf071, System>Administration>Services in breezy configures services.
[01:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntu styles are all brown and ugly.
[01:56] <dmlinux> If anyone is having trouble getting back to windows, ask me now because im logging off soon :)
[01:56] <njan> BROKEN_LADDER, art.gnome.org
[01:56] <JDigital> My ubuntu is all blue and silver and modern
[01:57] <LoneWolf071> njan:not there
[01:57] <QMario> What is this "python-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed"
[01:57] <MR_NULL> I am having trouble booting to windows after installing Ubuntu. Here is what I see when I do fdisk /dev/hda1
[01:57] <JDigital> You brownies don't know what you're missing
[01:57] <Raozine> sn9: well, I dont know if I can, Im just trying to listen to russian mp3's and it doesnt display the names..'
[01:57] <JDigital> blue and silver for the win
[01:57] <njan> LoneWolf071, then apt-get install rcconf and run sudo rcconf at the command line and use that.
[01:57] <MachineScrew> RPGs was also a little borring aw screw it it was like watching paint dry
[01:57] <QMario> Why can't I upgrade gnome-apps-install
[01:57] <Stricklin> BROKEN_LADDER, I've wanted to mimic Mac OS X since I switched over. :)
[01:57] <QMario> .
[01:57] <LoneWolf071> njan:i'm using hoary...
[01:57] <MR_NULL> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:57] <MR_NULL> hda1p1   ?      216399     1904881   850995205   72  Unknown
[01:57] <MR_NULL> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[01:57] <MR_NULL> hda1p2   ?      723265     1262922   271987362   74  Unknown
[01:57] <MR_NULL> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[01:57] <MR_NULL> hda1p3   ?      167316      167316           0   65  Novell Netware 386
[01:57] <aspuru> Guys: I read the update documentation. I am in the middle of it witha  crash
[01:57] <MR_NULL> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[01:57] <MR_NULL> hda1p4         2671568     2671619       25817+   0  Empty
[01:57] <MR_NULL> Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[01:57] <Stricklin> flood
[01:57] <dmlinux> hey guys, whats the apt-get for ATI drivers
[01:57] <njan> LoneWolf071, see what I said twice already about rcconf.
[01:57] <MR_NULL> Does this look?
[01:57] <sambagirl> i gave up on playing videos on ubuntu. lol
[01:57] <sn9> Raozine: if you could read what i last typed, you can
[01:57] <sambagirl> i moved on
[01:57] <QMario> MR_NULL, pastebin.
[01:57] <aspuru> It has problems wtih openoffice-org2-help
[01:57] <tryingsomething> install mplayer
[01:57] <Ekibyougami> my videos work fine :p
[01:57] <tryingsomething> it plays videos
[01:57] <MachineScrew> MR_NULL: use pates in
[01:57] <aspuru> I tryed to update and dist-upgrade again and says the same thing
[01:57] <njan> sambagirl, tried enemy territory?
[01:57] <sambagirl> this kde gnome thing is big difficulty
[01:58] <niggpie> Does breezy support wireless connections that are on a channel other than 6? Does it support WPA, or just WEP?
[01:58] <njan> niggpie, yes, and both.
[01:58] <LoneWolf071> njan:apt not finding rcconf
[01:58] <ubuntunewbie> Hello people just want to ask if Ubuntu has drivers for EPSON LX 300
[01:58] <aspuru> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:58] <aspuru>  /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb
[01:58] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: not realy you want windows use KDE you want style use GNOME
[01:58] <sambagirl> i was member of girls team Team-TXC.com in RTCW and ET, now i with VoodooHawks for TCE :).
[01:58] <aspuru> ....
[01:58] <sunguy> xserver-xorg-driver-ati - X.Org X server -- ATI driver
[01:58] <tryingsomething> wpa_supplicant for getting wpa
[01:58] <njan> LoneWolf071, it's in universe, you'll have to eable the universe repository
[01:58] <MR_NULL> MachineScrew: use pates in? What is that. Sorry new to ubuntu
[01:58] <niggpie> Why do I only see WEP in my network options? :(
[01:58] <njan> sambagirl, I'm guessing that's probably a yes, then. :P
[01:58] <Ekibyougami> blackbox ftw
[01:58] <Ekibyougami> =x
[01:58] <njan> sambagirl, tce on ubuntu works just fine. :)
[01:59] <njan> sambagirl, faster in ubuntu for me than under windows on the same hardware :)
[01:59] <ubuntunewbie> 	Hello people just want to ask if Ubuntu has drivers for EPSON LX 300 + dot matrix printer
[01:59] <DShepherd> I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in windows right now....can anyone assist?
[01:59] <LoneWolf071> njan:how do i enable that?
[01:59] <MachineScrew> MR_NULL: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting
[01:59] <sambagirl> i dont know how to install it. i wish i could but this machien is not for games is for important UBUNTU things :).
[01:59] <sambagirl> heh
[01:59] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: i excpect... yes
[01:59] <ubuntunewbie> Knorrie: Where do I get it ?
[01:59] <aspuru> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):
[01:59] <aspuru>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB', which is also in package openoffice.org2-calc
[01:59] <QMario> I AM IDLE AND MY CPU IS GOING NUTS!!!!!!
[01:59] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: do you have cups installed?
[02:00] <aspuru> How do fix that?
[02:00] <sunguy> top
[02:00] <Ekibyougami> qmario, make sure you dont have a rogue process hijacking threads
[02:00] <sambagirl> i read artical about Ubuntu in major magazine. Microsoft is angry about it :). Juts like Lindows (linspire).
[02:00] <aspuru> I can't remove the openoffice.org2-calc because it is part of the ubuntu-base
[02:00] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: my gf has a lot of games she plays and she only has 4gb hd
[02:00] <njan> LoneWolf071, either edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines, or use synaptic to enable universe.
[02:00] <benkong2> I am trying to set JAVA_HOME with no success anyone help?
[02:00] <randomc0de> I've got an odd problem, I'm trying to play a DVD from a folder via a .vob file, and xine and mplayer both pop up a screen saying the movie cannot play due to parental control settings
[02:00] <Ekibyougami> microsoft stole the ubuntu logo lol
[02:00] <sambagirl> how fast is compuer and how much memory she has?
[02:00] <njan> sambagirl, you can download the linux et and tce installers from the tce website.
[02:00] <sambagirl> that is the problem on this machine.
[02:00] <sunguy> QMario> That's because your using WIndows :)
[02:00] <ubuntunewbie> Knorrie: I'll check, I'll get back to you thanks
[02:00] <sambagirl> ok i'll try
[02:00] <sambagirl> brb
[02:01] <njan> sambagirl, my machine?
[02:01] <benkong2> !java
[02:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:01] <niggpie> Is there some reason why I might only see WEP in my 'ath0' properties, rather than WPA as well?
[02:01] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: cups = common unix printing system
[02:01] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: MS is angry about any thing they can't control
[02:01] <QMario> Sunguy, I am on Ubuntu Breezy.
[02:01] <sambagirl> no your girlfriends machine, i know you not letting her use your machine, cause your like that.
[02:01] <Howitzer> i checked for errors on the cd and the kernel's MD5SUM's are faulty, how the hell is that possible??, (anyone who has a clue?)
[02:01] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: if you have that, try http://localhost:631/
[02:01] <QMario> Ekibyougami, how do I do that?
[02:01] <DShepherd> I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in windows right now....can anyone assist?
[02:01] <sunguy> Same here.
[02:01] <njan> sambagirl, my wife has a 2.2GHz p4 with a gig of ram, but she doesn't play games on it. :p
[02:01] <shagg> got a problem trying to do an apt-get -f dist-upgrade.  I get to a specific package (openoffice2-help-en-us) and I get dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe).  is there a workaround?
[02:01] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: P2 266MHz 128Mb of ram 8mb of video ram
[02:01] <sunguy> I was kidding
[02:01] <sambagirl> WHAT?
[02:01] <DShepherd> I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in linux so can apt  right now....can anyone assist?
[02:01] <sambagirl> geez
[02:01] <Ekibyougami> system monitor QMario, it shows what programs are using how much of the process tree
[02:02] <JaZyLNX> hey anyone have anu luck with ntfs write support
[02:02] <Howitzer> DShepherd: what do you mean?
[02:02] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: I have the 2.0Ghz laptop
[02:02] <njan> JaZyLNX, last I checked, ntfs write support was extremely experimental, I wouldn't touch it.
[02:02] <sambagirl> my next adventure is to try to run ubuntu ppc version on amigaone. the new amiga :)
[02:02] <Howitzer> you want gcc for windows??
[02:02] <das> sn9, should i be worried about having an invalid signature?
[02:02] <DShepherd> Howitzer: I need gcc 3.4 to compile a driver for my modem
[02:02] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: oh nooo i'm telling you far too complicated things
[02:02] <Ekibyougami> ntfs write is botched still in linux
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> sambagirl,  you actually have one? :P
[02:02] <DShepherd> Howitzer: so that I can access the net
[02:02] <JaZyLNX> is there any way to convert ntfs to ext3 or something native to linux without being distructive?
[02:02] <benkong2> I am trying to set JAVA_HOME with no success anyone help?
[02:03] <Howitzer> oh
[02:03] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: of course I took my Desktop computer that I was upgrading since 98 sold it in 2003 and bought my laptop
[02:03] <njan> JaZyLNX, copy files onto another partition, reformat the partition, copy them abck again.
[02:03] <Howitzer> JaZyLNX: nope
[02:03] <QMario> Xorg, is using only 22-34%.
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> benkong2,  export JAVA_HOME=/whatever/whereever   - in the users .bashrc or .bash_profile or /etc/profils
[02:03] <Carlos22> Hola
[02:03] <sambagirl> brb going to download TCE
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> oops /etc/profile
[02:03] <Howitzer> yeeha
[02:03] <njan> JaZyLNX, you can address your thankyou for the awkwardness to Mr. William Henry Gates, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Seattle.
[02:03] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: now I am going to upgrade my CD-ROM drive to DL DVD+-RW
[02:03] <benkong2> Dr_Willis; thank you
[02:03] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: ubuntu has system -> administration -> printers
[02:03] <Ekibyougami> JaZyLNX, you can also use partition magic and chance it. it would let you convert from ntfs to fat32
[02:03] <JaZyLNX> heh :
[02:03] <sn9> das: hoary-extras has no valid signature
[02:03] <Carlos22> Hola
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> benkong2,  that is rater fundamental bash stuff . May want to go read a tutorial or 2 on bash
[02:03] <Howitzer> ordered 1 pc, 1 amd64 and 1 osx cd
[02:04] <JaZyLNX> alright thanks for all the ideas guys :)
[02:04] <njan> Ekibyougami, fat32 isn't exactly native to linux :P
[02:04] <sambagirl> why don't you instead buy for your wife the diamonds she wants instead? :D
[02:04] <aspuru> Can anybody help me with an apt problem?
[02:04] <Howitzer> aspuru: explain
[02:04] <Ekibyougami> i know, but it is supported a wee bit better than ntfs
[02:04] <aspuru> Howitzer: I am in the middle of a Breezy Upgrade
[02:04] <njan> Ekibyougami, still not native :P
[02:04] <benkong2> Dr_Willis; I accept your suggestions and will read the tutorials
[02:04] <niggpie> Is there some reason why I might only see WEP in my 'ath0' properties, rather than WPA as well?
[02:04] <Howitzer> yes?
[02:04] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: add a printer, look at the list drivers, i only see a LX-1050 but it allows you to install additional drivers (.ppd files)
[02:04] <aspuru> Howitzer: I have a conflict that I am trying to resolve and got stuck
[02:04] <das> sn9: this appears to be regarding breezy-updates
[02:04] <njan> fat32 is evil, ext3's much nicer ;)
[02:04] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: she wan'ts more computer stuff she isn't a dimond person
[02:04] <Ekibyougami> its native with dragon linux =x
[02:04] <DShepherd> I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in linux so can apt  right now....can anyone assist?
[02:04] <Stricklin> If I have a separate documents/data partition, should it be a certain file system so both Windows and Linux may use it?
[02:04] <aspuru> Howitzer: In the meantime lost a GUI browser, etc. I come to see if you guys have a solution
[02:04] <njan> Stricklin, fat32 :/
[02:04] <aspuru> Howitzer: This is the error:
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> benkong2,  if you can ever find the O'reially 'using bash' book - its well wrth getting also. :P
[02:05] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: she is a linux convert
[02:05] <netmonk> after i reboot my keyboard and monitor turn off and the hdd is still working and the computer hangs in that stat. how can i fix that?
[02:05] <erUSUL> Carlos22: #ubuntu-es
[02:05] <njan> MachineScrew, :).. after mine tried ubuntu for a week she refused to go back to XP :)
[02:05] <MachineScrew> though neather of us have many friends
[02:05] <sambagirl> you want to see something really cool go to native instruments and look at new Reaktor 5 flash movie.
[02:05] <MachineScrew> go figure
[02:05] <Ekibyougami> with the power button netmonk
[02:05] <benkong2> Dr_Willis; I'll gheck halfbay for that now again thanks
[02:05] <Ekibyougami> =x
[02:05] <aspuru> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:05] <sn9> niggpie: you need to install extra software for WPA
[02:05] <sambagirl> or see if ubuntu can handle demoscene.tv
[02:05] <aspuru>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB', which is also in package openoffice.org2-calc
[02:05] <Stricklin> What does Ubuntu use?
[02:05] <ubuntunewbie> Knorrie: Ok do i get to download new printer drivers ? (Like windows update)
[02:05] <JaZyLNX> yeah i hate windows now :)
[02:05] <Howitzer> Linux is SO DAMN good if you're not that interested in gaming :(
[02:05] <sambagirl> it wont work for me.
[02:05] <njan> Stricklin, by default, ext3
[02:05] <aspuru> Howizter: any ideas?
[02:05] <randomc0de> is anyone else having trouble setting up Breezy-AMD64 to play DVD's? I got Hoary-i386 to do it fine.
[02:05] <Howitzer> ehh
[02:05] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: http://www.linuxprinting.org/database.html
[02:05] <niggpie> sn9 ahh, can you point me in the right direction?
[02:05] <tryingsomething> tuxracer works
[02:05] <Howitzer> press Y? Oo
[02:05] <nekostar> yay!
[02:06] <tryingsomething> ; )
[02:06] <netmonk> Ekibyougami, last time I had to take the batery off the computer because even the power button woldn't do it
[02:06] <njan> Stricklin, linux supports natively several file systems, including ext3, reiserfs, xfs, and jfs.
[02:06] <nekostar> my ubuntu is working perfectly~!
[02:06] <adisse> i guess there's no backports for breezy yet? will there be some day?
[02:06] <Ekibyougami> ahh
[02:06] <aspuru> Howitzer: The upgrade process stops
[02:06] <tryingsomething> ut2004
[02:06] <njan> Stricklin, they all have (dis)advantages.
[02:06] <Howitzer> hmm
[02:06] <nekostar> thankyou everyone who helped me! <3
[02:06] <humbolt> how can I create a deb from a source package most easily?
[02:06] <Mez> adisse, soon
[02:06] <sn9> niggpie: one of the pkgs you need is wpa_supplicant
[02:06] <Howitzer> ehh
[02:06] <Ekibyougami> netmonk, you may need to dissable acpi and use the apm module
[02:06] <aspuru> Howitzer: I try to remove the package using Synaptic
[02:06] <adisse> Mez, ok. thanks.
[02:06] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry to hear that DShepherd
[02:06] <niggpie> sn9 : thx!
[02:06] <aspuru> Howitzer: It seems not to allow me to do it
[02:06] <mkyb14> anyone know why when i try to boot up or use the cd to boot that i get a "kernal panic - not syncing: no init found" ...??
[02:07] <snooo> how do you find out what packages you were using were from backports?
[02:07] <netmonk> acpi worked fine with hoary...
[02:07] <Stricklin> njan, but ext3 is considered the best of the four?
[02:07] <Howitzer> it's a bit risky, but try to delete the problem file manually, and re-upgrade
[02:07] <QMario> Ekibyougami, nothing's wrong.
[02:07] <aspuru> HowitzeR: and no matter what I do (update pacakges, etc.) it still is scheduled to be installed and the install fails
[02:07] <snooo> and how do you go about removing them?
[02:07] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone ever solved the issue of hanging on resume from hibernate/sleep when using the fglrx drivers for ati?
[02:07] <netmonk> had all the options... Ekibyougami
[02:07] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: what is demoscene
[02:07] <njan> Stricklin, it's the most commonly used, and as a result it's the best supported and easiest to recover data from
[02:07] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: yeah ...me too :(
[02:07] <ubuntunewbie> So what's the advantage of using ubuntu over other LINUX distros ?
[02:07] <Ekibyougami> hmm
[02:07] <QMario> Is the server still slow?
[02:07] <njan> Stricklin, I wouldn't say 'best', because they're all good.
[02:07] <Stricklin> I see
[02:07] <sn9> mkyb14: you get that on the livecd?
[02:07] <Pluk> FliesLikeABrick, its a known bug in the ati drivers
[02:07] <QMario> Ekibyougami, what do you think?
[02:07] <njan> ubuntunewbie, great community, great package management, new packages with security updates, great philosophy, minimum of gunk.
[02:07] <tryingsomething> ubuntu is easy
[02:07] <Howitzer> rm /usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB
[02:07] <Raozine> sn9: well, it installed everything. but It still doesnt show up correctly. How would I got about installing fonts?
[02:07] <tryingsomething> easy debian
[02:07] <snooo> anyone any ideas with what i asked?
[02:07] <n0o13> can somebody please tell me real quick how to change permissions from the command prompt?
[02:07] <ubuntunewbie> ok
[02:07] <Howitzer> and re-upgrae is the first thing that comes in min
[02:07] <Dnadog> hi all,  i am new to apt and have been a yum user up to now,  is there an easy way to install gnome and all deps using apt-get
[02:07] <Ekibyougami> maybe your proc is just slow QMario
[02:07] <QMario> Tryingsomething, not Breezy.
[02:07] <thirso> sn9, which config file should i check?
[02:07] <mkyb14> no it's the regular 5.04 and the 5.10 versions.... i took the graphics card out to diagnose someone elses's computer and then put it back and now this happens
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> n0o13,  chmod, chown, or cheat and use 'mc' :P
[02:08] <mkyb14> i can't even boot in recovery
[02:08] <Howitzer> n0o13: chmod or something?
[02:08] <QMario> Ekibyougami, Pentium 4.
[02:08] <Knorrie> ubuntunewbie: hmmm :| perhaps it works with the lx1050 driver, but im not sure
[02:08] <sambagirl> demoscene.tv has all the fabulous amiga demos online in the oldskool thing and boy are they the rocking-est website of history in my opinion.
[02:08] <Ekibyougami> hmm
[02:08] <njan> Stricklin, I'd recommend sticking with ext3 for linux-only file storage though, unless you're experienced enough that you udnerstand the consequences of using others
[02:08] <randomc0de> is anyone else having trouble getting Breezy-AMD64 to play DVD's?I got it working on Hoary-i386 fine.
[02:08] <n0o13> thx
[02:08] <sambagirl> visit it demoscene.tv
[02:08] <ubuntunewbie> How bout hardware support ? especially for old computer (Pentium I to Pentium III) is it good ? Does it run nice and smooth on old systems ?
[02:08] <njan> Stricklin, but windows won't touch ext3 unless you install some special drivbers, and I'm not sure how stable/reliable they are.
[02:08] <Howitzer> Dr_Willis , why is mc cheating?
[02:08] <Ekibyougami> is it the idle process that is running full tilt?
[02:08] <Dnadog> hi all,  i am new to apt and have been a yum user up to now,  is there an easy way to install gnome and all deps using apt-get
[02:08] <QMario> Hello Ubuntu!!! :)
[02:08] <adisse> ubuntunewbie, depends on the desktop environment
[02:08] <sambagirl> http://www.demoscene.tv
[02:08] <njan> ubuntunewbie, you'd have to do a little tweaking to get it to run on something that low-end
[02:08] <sn9> thirso: it's in /boot
[02:08] <QMario> Ekibyougami, no.
[02:08] <Stricklin> So I'm looking at 10GB NTFS for Windows XP, 500MB ? for swap, 10GB ext3 for Ubuntu and the rest FAT32 for documents?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> Howitzer,  go use it. :P its worth learning about.
[02:09] <njan> ubuntulog, like installing a desktop environment like icewm or fvwm instead of gnome.
[02:09] <nekostar> bbl knotts scarry farmz here i cum
[02:09] <sorush20> why can't I use the Baghira theme I don't know what is going on..
[02:09] <njan> Stricklin, sounds about right to me.
[02:09] <Howitzer> Stricklin: why the hell would you want windows to come in contact with linux?
[02:09] <Ekibyougami> dunno then
[02:09] <mkyb14> ?
[02:09] <QMario> Ekibyougami, all I know is that after I upgraded, Ubuntu started to freeze every 5-10 seconds
[02:09] <QMario> .
[02:09] <Stricklin> Howitzer, because I'm not an OS bigot
[02:09] <triplep> hainvg build issues, but i'm not eactly sure what the issue is ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3149
[02:09] <Howitzer> it screws it all over with its chkdsk
[02:09] <njan> Howitzer, because some people are open-minded about operating systems and don't just stick to what they're bigoted towards?
[02:09] <Howitzer> ehh
[02:09] <njan> Howitzer, no it doesn't. It doesn't touch linux if you don't tell it to.
[02:09] <Ekibyougami> fsck windows =x
[02:09] <adisse> ubuntunewbie, i think xfce will run fine on those machines
[02:09] <randomc0de> has anyone here been able to get a DVD folder to play in Breezy?
[02:09] <aspuru> thanks howitzer will try
[02:09] <Howitzer> damn
[02:09] <JaZyLNX> i'm stuck with it for a gaming reasons.
[02:09] <Raozine> sn9: no, its still not showing up..
[02:10] <thirso> sn9, what do u want me to check there? theres just CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI=m
[02:10] <Dnadog> whats a quick way to install gnome with apt-get
[02:10] <Stricklin> Not to mention I'm considering working on my MCSE
[02:10] <Howitzer> should've known that earlier >_<
[02:10] <nickrud> triplep, sudo apt-get install build-essential : that will get you gcc-3.4 and friends
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> randomc0de,  ive played dvd's ive copied to hd with dvdrip befor
[02:10] <JaZyLNX> anyone write assembly for the IA-32 under linux?
[02:10] <sn9> mkyb14: this only started happening after a video card pull?
[02:10] <Ekibyougami> JaZyLNX, you can always use vmware to run windows in linux
[02:10] <njan> Stricklin, good for you - we need more people who're Minesweeper Certified :P
[02:10] <QMario> If you guys want to play games on Linux, then try making one. :)
[02:10] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: it killed totem
[02:10] <Stricklin> lol
[02:10] <MachineScrew> one sec
[02:10] <Howitzer> btw, does BB include the w32codecs yet?
[02:10] <sambagirl> killed it?
[02:10] <njan> Howitzer, no, and I doubt it will.
[02:10] <MR_NULL> I am seeing this "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." After fresh install of Ubuntu
[02:10] <Ekibyougami> !w32codecs
[02:10] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[02:10] <julien> Hello
[02:11] <MR_NULL> Is this bad?
[02:11] <Howitzer> argh
[02:11] <sn9> thirso: check for CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI
[02:11] <Stricklin> btw, Howitzer I didn't mean for that to come across as hostile
[02:11] <ubuntunewbie> Ok so what If I have an unsupported hardware ? where do I post notices in order that It might someday be created a driver ?
[02:11] <randomc0de> Dr_Willis I don't know what's wrong, I have libdvdcss2, xine, totem-xine, mplayer, and xine-gui and it just refuses to play
[02:11] <triplep> nickrud : already have it
[02:11] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: ya
[02:11] <julien> I am a new user of Linux ! :)
[02:11] <Howitzer> Stricklin: never took it that way :p
[02:11] <Stricklin> cool beans
[02:11] <sambagirl> so solly
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> randomc0de,  i tend to use 'vlc' mainly these days
[02:11] <njan> Stricklin, new to linux from the windows workd?
[02:11] <njan> s/workd/world/
[02:11] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: I am going to try VLC seems to work better
[02:11] <sambagirl> try to do with browdser
[02:11] <Stricklin> njan, yes
[02:11] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: I am
[02:11] <randomc0de> Dr_Willis, I tried that earlier, but it didn't work either... maybe I'll reinstall it
[02:12] <sambagirl> the demos are fabulous
[02:12] <Stricklin> Also relatively new to Windows from the Mac world
[02:12] <sambagirl> i love the amgia demos
[02:12] <thirso> sn9, modprobe it?
[02:12] <dmlinux> whats the command for that autoconfig of the hardware on your comp??
[02:12] <sambagirl> all the famouse groups doing there from the day.
[02:12] <Ekibyougami> autoconf?
[02:12] <Ekibyougami> =z
[02:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do you call the gdm system that doesn't have the background and theme?  just a login box and your specified background?
[02:12] <sambagirl> but i cannot get it to run on ubuntu...
[02:12] <Dnadog> whats a quick way to install gnome with apt-get
[02:12] <mkyb14> i put in the 5.10 i386 disk and try to install and get a "kernal panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!" and a few numbers after it...... why
[02:12] <QMario> Let me tell you this so far, of how I think of Ubuntu compared to Windows XP.
[02:12] <QMario> Breezy < Windows XP < Hoary
[02:12] <dmlinux> ekibyougami yeah its somethingk like dpkg or somethign
[02:12] <sn9> thirso: you said modprobe couldn't find snd-cmipci
[02:12] <Howitzer> ehh
[02:12] <QMario> I guess I just wasn't patient enough.
[02:12] <sambagirl> 24/7 demos :D
[02:12] <triplep> nickrud : i have gcc version 4.0.2 20050808, which i'm guessing everyone on breezy has
[02:12] <njan> Stricklin, if you're MCSEing, there are three things you'll probably find striking about linux. 1) system architecture makes sense. 2) there's no active directory. 3) linux really, *really* knows how to do software updates.
[02:12] <Stricklin> I used Mac OS 9.x until college when I got my degree in IS. Since then I've used primarily Windows and OS/2 Warp 4 at the office
[02:13] <Howitzer> why does XP own BB? :o
[02:13] <thirso> sn9, yeah
[02:13] <ubuntunewbie> Does UBUNTU do the typical linux thing like create 3 partitions and make a root account ?
[02:13] <nickrud> triplep, sorry, thinking hoary :) sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:13] <dmlinux> sn9 hey bro do you know the command to do the foniguration of the hardware with the blue screen thing lol
[02:13] <MachineScrew> QMario: there is somthing with YOUR config not Breezy
[02:13] <QMario> Howitzer, are you talking to me?
[02:13] <Howitzer> ubuntunewbie: no
[02:13] <njan> ubuntunewbie, it creates one partition and swap by default, I think, and there is no root account.
[02:13] <Howitzer> yes QMario
[02:13] <QMario> MachineScrew, what?
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie,  2, and you do have a rooot account. but you use 'sudo;' to do root things.
[02:13] <mkyb14> can someone help me with a boot issue?
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:13] <QMario> I just upgraded, the way the notes told me to.
[02:13] <ubuntunewbie> Howitzer:
[02:13] <QMario> !Breezy
[02:14] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:14] <ubuntunewbie> Ah ok
[02:14] <sn9> dmlinux: afaik, no such command
[02:14] <MachineScrew> QMario: I have done a clean install on a laptop no less and Breezy works flawlessly
[02:14] <zerboxx> How do I install something via cvs?
[02:14] <sunguy> ALL> Acroread not available on Breezy?
[02:14] <triplep> nickrud : thanks... i've been goin batty for a couple of hours now
[02:14] <Stricklin> Well, I have to say I prefer Linux to other OSs now, and I prefer Ubuntu to other Lini now
[02:14] <QMario> MachineScrew, clean install?
[02:14] <QMario> Why?
[02:14] <MachineScrew> QMario: I did that to my gf computer
[02:14] <QMario> I just used apt-get.
[02:14] <Ekibyougami> gotta love the newbie friendly fakeroot
[02:14] <QMario> What is GF?
[02:14] <Stricklin> Linuxes? Lini? :)
[02:14] <MachineScrew> QMario: ya some systems have a problem with the
[02:14] <MachineScrew> QMario: girlfriend
[02:15] <Ekibyougami> i think the plural of linux is penguins
[02:15] <Howitzer> i downloaded the Breezy .iso and it gives me a faulty MD5SUM for the kernel D:
[02:15] <njan> Stricklin, the cool kids call them 'other distros' ;)
[02:15] <dmlinux> sn9 i dont remember what it is but its to set up your keyboard and mouse and video drivers, its all run in the terminal but it comes up with a bluescreen , like when you are installing ubuntu
[02:15] <Stricklin> heh
[02:15] <QMario> With the what?
[02:15] <njan> Stricklin, or, if they've been around long enough to have gone through the 'flavours' fad, 'other flavours of linux' :P
[02:15] <sn9> thirso: did you check the config file for CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI ?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> "Linux of the Month Club"
[02:15] <sn9> dmlinux: oh, that
[02:15] <mkyb14> anyone else get a kernal panic when trying to install the new 5.10?
[02:15] <Stricklin> I did not care for Kubuntu.
[02:15] <QMario> Mkyb14, yep.
[02:15] <njan> Stricklin, no, KDE is a nasty ugly mess :)
[02:15] <sn9> dmlinux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:15] <DShepherd> I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in linux so can apt  right now....can anyone assist?
[02:15] <mkyb14> how do i fix this
[02:15] <Ekibyougami> lol, i still call the different half-breeds of the distros flavours
[02:15] <dmlinux> sn9 thats it !
[02:15] <Stricklin> Gnome is definitely the way to go
[02:15] <njan> Stricklin, if I wanted something that messy, I'd reboot back into XP :)
[02:15] <QMario> In some cases.
[02:15] <mkyb14> it does it will all versions that i have and that have worked before
[02:15] <MachineScrew> QMario: some times a clean install is better but on my girlfriends computer I did an server install of Ubuntu 5.04 and did dist-upgrade
[02:15] <Ekibyougami> like earlier builds of ubuntu would be flavours of deb
[02:15] <thirso> sn9, CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI=m is in the config file
[02:16] <ubuntunewbie> Do you think ubuntu is the linux answer to people who are really new to LINUX because most people think that LINUX is for the "T
[02:16] <QMario> MachineScrew, so should I do a clean install?
[02:16] <ubuntunewbie> "Techies" only
[02:16] <sn9> thirso: then the module has got to be there
[02:16] <njan> ubuntunewbie, I tnhink ubuntu is getting there, yes.
[02:16] <QMario> Will it erase ALL my files?
[02:16] <dmlinux> sn9  hmm that didnt work
[02:16] <antonymous>  okay, so I'm a (relative) n00b and I've upgraded from hoary to breezy, but have 2 issues that stand out right away - my mp3 support is gone, and my USB drive no longer appears on my desktop...
[02:16] <MachineScrew> QMario: then I rebooted and did a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <k-0tik> ubuntunewbie, yes
[02:16] <Stricklin> the truth is: M$ had Windows 2000 Professional right, then they screwed everything up with XP
[02:16] <Ekibyougami> ubuntu is pretty noob friendly
[02:16] <antonymous> any help?
[02:16] <Ekibyougami> as is mepis
[02:16] <k-0tik> how does everybody like 5.10?
[02:16] <sn9> dmlinux: did you type "sudo" first?
[02:16] <dmlinux> sn9 im using gnome, and breezy,
[02:16] <DShepherd> anybody somebody ....I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in linux so can apt  right now....can anyone assist?
[02:16] <ubuntunewbie> What's with the wierd distro names "Breezy badger" etc . . . ?
[02:16] <dmlinux> sn9 yeah
[02:16] <antonymous> feel free to pm
[02:16] <tryingsomething> well at first things didnt work in 2k as far as games
[02:17] <MachineScrew> QMario: you should always back up files when doing drastic things to your system
[02:17] <sn9> dmlinux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:17] <njan> Stricklin, I disagree, I think XP is better in lots of ways, I'd far rather run XP. It just took them a while (until sp2) to get XP working straight - but if you recall, 2k was pretty painful at times back before sp2/sp3
[02:17] <moshe> hello
[02:17] <moshe> are the servers still slow for upgrading?
[02:17] <QMario> Hello moshe!!! :)
[02:17] <QMario> 74Kb/sec.
[02:17] <njan> Stricklin, 2ksp4 is great, but sp2 and sp1 weren't much fun, especially in a corporate environment.
[02:17] <moshe> hmmm
[02:17] <Ekibyougami> xp works straight?
[02:17] <MachineScrew> QMario: even windows will tell you back up your files
[02:17] <QMario> Yep, I think so. :)
[02:17] <Stricklin> njan, very true
[02:17] <Ekibyougami> o.O
[02:17] <moshe> I guess that would be good for an overnight upgrade, wouldn't it?
[02:17] <njan> Stricklin, XP has lots and lots of features that 2k doesn't, just like 2k3 does.
[02:17] <QMario> MachineScrew, back up to where?
[02:17] <njan> Stricklin, 2k3 server is a really, really nice piece of kit.
[02:17] <moshe> second question:  does the ubuntu website run on drupal?
[02:17] <Stricklin> I suppose it's just the GUI I don't care for
[02:17] <njan> Stricklin, it does lots of stuff linux doesn't even know exists. :)
[02:18] <QMario> Ekibyougami.
[02:18] <njan> Stricklin, indeed, yeah. But you have to have a new GUI or people would question why they just spent $200 for an upgrade :P:P
[02:18] <Ekibyougami> yo?
[02:18] <tryingsomething> like send all your files to MS overnight?
[02:18] <adisse> !ati
[02:18] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:18] <Stricklin> again, very true
[02:18] <dmlinux> sn9 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3152
[02:19] <QMario> MachineScrew, upgrading from Warty to Hoary was no problem, but why is something wrong here?
[02:19] <njan> tryingsomething, like providing centralised management, updating, and policy configuration for thousands of servers segregated into domains and forests, with security boundaries, authority delegation, and centralised auditing.
[02:19] <njan> tryingsomething, :)
[02:19] <Xenthro> for fglrx I edited xorg.conf and added the noagpgart =yes line and it still tells me mesa is the vendor. whats up?
[02:19] <DShepherd> anybody somebody ....I need to download gcc 3.4. i;m not in linux so can apt  right now....can anyone assist?
[02:19] <QMario> Njan, a lot of multi-syllable words.
[02:19] <MachineScrew> QMario: there is always somthing
[02:19] <njan> QMario, indeed ;)
[02:19] <erUSUL> njan: Stricklin move windows stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic or wherever but out of here please
[02:19] <antonymous> seriously...why did rhythmbox stop playing mp3s after I went from hoary to breezy?
[02:19] <Ekibyougami> njan suddenly sounds like a security+ book =x
[02:19] <ubuntunewbie> When you install ubuntu  does it come already with open office ?
[02:19] <tryingsomething> haha
[02:19] <MachineScrew> QMario: somtimes you won't have a problem other times you will
[02:19] <dmlinux> anyone know how to install the ATI drivers? whats the apt-get command for that
[02:19] <sn9> dmlinux: you mistyped
[02:19] <sn9> dmlinux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:20] <tryingsomething> apt-get igetno3dwithati:)
[02:20] <Stricklin> erUSUL, sorry... I was just chatting
[02:20] <MachineScrew> did any one know ALT + F2 opens the Run Dialog
[02:20] <sn9> mkyb14: this only started happening after a video card pull?
[02:20] <tryingsomething> ati sucks for linux
[02:20] <dmlinux> sn9 that worked, thanks bro lol
[02:20] <Stricklin> will do
[02:20] <tryingsomething> that's why ms chose them for the xbox360
[02:20] <Ekibyougami> nope, i just use a minicommander
[02:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> MachineScrew on my system alt+f2 switches to workspace 2
[02:20] <ubuntunewbie> I have an old Macintosh here it's a performa 580CD does ubuntu run on old Macintosh ( I read it runs only on Power macs)
[02:21] <sn9> ubuntunewbie: no, but debian might
[02:21] <tryingsomething> probably not then
[02:21] <randomc0de> so dvd navigation isn't working in my media players, any hints on what I need to install to get it to work?
[02:21] <tryingsomething> vlc?
[02:21] <tryingsomething> apt-get install vlc
[02:21] <MachineScrew> BROKEN_LADDER: I read some where it was alt f2 my bad sory
[02:21] <njan> erUSUL, apologies; it started out ontopic (and is meanderingly so. :P)
[02:21] <sloft> hi
[02:21] <helloyo> i was downloading an iso in firefox (stupid!) which crashed, so i have a big unfinished file, is there anyway i can resume it?
[02:21] <njan> Ekibyougami, I'm an Infrastructure Security Consultant.. go figure. :P
[02:21] <randomc0de> tryingsomething, yeah, already have it, doesn't work
[02:21] <Ekibyougami> ahh
[02:21] <tryingsomething> i dunno then
[02:21] <dmlinux> sn9 now rebooting , hopefully it wont crash and burn
[02:22] <das> sn9, im getting an invalid signature error for breezy-updates... is this bad?
[02:22] <snooo> helloyo: not in firefox. you could try using a different downloader
[02:22] <tryingsomething> i thought you could open dvd'menu with vlc
[02:22] <Ekibyougami> i do freelance wireless security consulting
[02:22] <tryingsomething> have you tried mplayer?
[02:22] <snooo> helloyo: one that will let you resume, to prevent it happening in the future
[02:22] <randomc0de> I've tried VLC, totem-xine, mplayer, and gxine
[02:22] <helloyo> snooo, so theres no way i can continue with this file?
[02:22] <snooo> helloyo: but resumes in firefox have never woked for me
[02:22] <moshe> does anyone know what the ubuntu site runs on?  Is it Drupal?
[02:22] <tryingsomething> which video card?
[02:22] <snooo> helloyo: inless you can get another program to start where firefox left off...
[02:22] <adisse> helloyo, you could try "wget -c http://blah" - of course in the same directory where the partitially downloaded file is
[02:22] <snooo> Downloader for X might do it
[02:22] <snooo> i dunno
[02:22] <radicaledward> I have a two screen set up. When i'm playing videos (including dvds) the video will only appear on one screen. The screens are currently just being mirrored. Any ideas?
[02:22] <snooo> wget, of course
[02:23] <randomc0de> I have a geforce 6800 but that can't be it, I got dvd playback to work in hoary
[02:23] <snooo> do that
[02:23] <nickrud> helloyo, you could try pointing wget at the link and the iso, I think that's how I fixed my version of that stupidity a while back
[02:23] <helloyo> adisse, i'll give it a go
[02:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> MachineScrew every person can set his own keyboard shortcuts.
[02:23] <mkyb14> ok someone, my windows cd will let me install but any of the 3 previous versions of ubuntu are giving me a kernal panic when i try and install or boot up .... any reasoning?
[02:23] <thirso> sn9, so what do i do?
[02:23] <tryingsomething> libdvd ?
[02:23] <Stricklin> instead of 10GB win/10GB Linux/500MB swap/X docs, how about 100GB Win/500MB swap/X linux?
[02:23] <helloyo> nickrud, adisse, snooo, thanks! i'll give it a go
[02:23] <tryingsomething> libcss - i duno
[02:23] <Ekibyougami> mkyb14, bill gates stole your computer's soul
[02:23] <snooo> salright
[02:23] <sn9> mkyb14: this only started happening after a video card pull?
[02:23] <mkyb14> ha no seriously
[02:23] <leetcharmer> Has anyone else had problems with amaroK in Ubuntu Breezy?
[02:23] <nickrud> helloyo, and, install a download manager that firefox can use for next time ;)
[02:23] <njan> Stricklin, X linux?
[02:23] <Stricklin> and just handle all my docs on the Linux side?
[02:23] <mkyb14> i believe so
[02:23] <Stricklin> the rest
[02:24] <randomc0de> I have all the libdvd's except the -dev's and libdvdcss2
[02:24] <n0o13> how do u copy a file/folder from shell?
[02:24] <njan> Stricklin, how big's your hdd?
[02:24] <leetcharmer> it keeps rebuffering -- won't actually play playlists (online stations)
[02:24] <Stricklin> 250GB
[02:24] <mkyb14> anytime i remove a cdrom or something i end up reinstalling bc it can't go anyfurther
[02:24] <snooo> why is it worth upgrading to breezy then? i need to explain to my housemate why she should bother
[02:24] <njan> Stricklin, if I were you, I'd go with:
[02:24] <radicaledward> randomc0de: You need libdvdcss2
[02:24] <tryingsomething> ya
[02:24] <das> anyone know why im getting an invalid signature error for breezy-updates?
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> where can i get themes for the gtk+ greeter?
[02:24] <randomc0de> radicaledward yup, got it
[02:24] <sn9> mkyb14: my gut says you loosened some other cable inside
[02:24] <adisse> helloyo, but make sure the partitially downloaded file doesn't have anything added in it's filename, like *.part or something
[02:24] <n0o13> can someone please tell me real quick how to copy a file from the shell?
[02:24] <erUSUL> n0o13: man cp
[02:24] <n0o13> thx
[02:24] <sn9> n0o13: cp
[02:24] <mkyb14> so is there a way to get it to boot with out the kernal panic because this is making no sense even if i'm trying nto do a fresh install
[02:25] <bruce_> cp filename /wherewant
[02:25] <njan> 50mb /boot,, 15gb winnt,, 15gb linux /,, * docs
[02:25] <radicaledward> randomc0de No idea then, just got my dvd to work =\
[02:25] <randomc0de> radicaledward, I can play some of the .vob files... it's got to be the navigation that's the problem, it won't link one to another
[02:25] <nickrud> snooo, I was running the preview, which I liked better than hoary; I like the clean install much better than the updated one.
[02:25] <njan> Stricklin, how much ram do you have?
[02:25] <Stricklin> 1GB atm
[02:25] <helloyo> adisse, ah, i wouldn't of done that, thanks
[02:25] <snooo> nickrud: you reckon? what was the difference/
[02:25] <njan> Stricklin, just ignore swap. You won't use it.,
[02:25] <snooo> ?
[02:25] <Ekibyougami> mkyb14, try using using boot text
[02:25] <nickrud> snooo, between hoary & breezy, or previews and clean?
[02:25] <das> anyone know why im getting an invalid signature error for breezy-updates?
[02:26] <snooo> previews and clean
[02:26] <bruce_> Any one know where to get the xfce network monitor app that hangs in dock?
[02:26] <mkyb14> i get a kernal panic reguardless for all versions.....
[02:26] <njan> Stricklin, I'm on a p4 2.2Ghz with 1.3gb ram atm and when I had a swap partition, in gentoo, debian, and ubuntu I rarely if ever used it.
[02:26] <snooo> or clean and updated
[02:26] <snooo> rater
[02:26] <snooo> rather
[02:26] <sn9> thirso: are you sure you're typing the command to load the module right?
[02:26] <Dnadog> heres a weird one for you,  if i download the ubuntu iso from xp i get about 80k/s if i download the same iso from the same source from ubuntu on the same pc within vmware i get over 200k/s
[02:26] <Stricklin> why would you use it?
[02:26] <njan> Stricklin, my other laptop is a p-m 2.0 with a gig of ram and it never uses swap either. Anything over 512mb of ram and I tend to ignore swap.
[02:26] <Ekibyougami> my swap part hasnt even had any activity
[02:26] <Ekibyougami> and i only have 768 ram
[02:26] <radicaledward> randomc0de do you have libdvdread3 and libdvdnav4 installed?
[02:26] <Stricklin> what is the swap drive for?
[02:26] <nickrud> the last update to the preview broke badly, for one. And one vivid example is much better font rendering.
[02:26] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: almost played
[02:26] <njan> Stricklin, with a gig of ram? You'd have to absolutely hammer your machine to the point at which it was crawling into the ground with activity and you had forking processes all over the place before it'd use it, most likely
[02:27] <njan> Stricklin, think of it as the equivalent to virtual memory in linux.
[02:27] <snooo> oh cool
[02:27] <njan> Stricklin, not quite the same thing, but basically it. :P
[02:27] <Ekibyougami> the swap drive is the linux equiv of a windows page file
[02:27] <randomc0de> radicaledward yeah, both
[02:27] <GTroy> really simple question: how do I find my ip address?
[02:27] <MachineScrew> sambagirl: only audio though I think I know what the problem was
[02:27] <snooo> i'll install breezy clean when i get my new computer... cant be arsed otherwise atm
[02:27] <snooo> inless this update doesnt fix itself
[02:27] <radicaledward> randomc0de No idea then, sorry.
[02:27] <Ekibyougami> gtroy, whatismyip.com is a good way to find it
[02:27] <helloyo> nickrud, adisse, snooo, its continuing! wooh!
[02:27] <randomc0de> radicaledward, I got it to work in hoary too, it's really annoying updating to have things broken
[02:27] <Dnadog> gtroy ifconfig will give you your ip
[02:27] <nickrud> I'd have liked to find out what happened, but this is my work machine, and my backup strategy was worthless
[02:27] <Stricklin> so: 50/15/15/* ?
[02:27] <njan> Stricklin, but yeah. If you have 250gb of space the only other thing I'd do is give more space to linux/windows system partitions than 10gb. 10gb doesn't go far with xp.
[02:28] <adisse> helloyo, good :)
[02:28] <njan> Stricklin, sounds reasonable.
[02:28] <thirso> sn9, modprobe snd_cmipci ?
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> where does one find a gtk+ theme, since the human theme sucks?
[02:28] <GTroy> thanks guys
[02:28] <Ekibyougami> true 10gb doesnt go far with xp
[02:28] <njan> Stricklin, or 20 each for linux and windows if you don't mind losing the space - it's easier allocating it now than resizing later.
[02:28] <son_5> Hola!
[02:28] <njan> BROKEN_LADDER, I already told you, art.gnome.org
[02:28] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: in the themes dialog.
[02:28] <Transporter_> !sources
[02:28] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> njan where?
[02:28] <njan> Ekibyougami, or ubuntu, if you install lots of packages ;P
[02:28] <son_5> Ka-chaka-chaka!
[02:28] <Ekibyougami> i forgot to mention that i have a very stripped down version of xp =x
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ the only theme available is human.
[02:28] <njan> BROKEN_LADDER, http://art.gnome.org
[02:28] <sn9> thirso: -, not _
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ i'm talking about the login.
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> njan i'm there.  now where on the site?
[02:29] <[FiDO] > I'm having some display problems with breezy
[02:29] <Stricklin> and the *'s file system? ext3, since I expect all my work to be done in Linux?
[02:29] <njan> BROKEN_LADDER, I don't know, figure it out :P
[02:29] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: So you need a GDM theme, not  a gtk theme.
[02:29] <doctordemento> <---- New to linux, need help with totem video player to play .mpg, .avi, and.wmv
[02:29] <[FiDO] > the display server keeps restarting
[02:29] <njan> Ekibyougami, I don't, I have Office 2k3 Ent and the latest edition of Visual Studio, and they pretty much take up 10gb between them :)
[02:29] <[FiDO] > I'm running a radeon 9000
[02:29] <thirso> sn9, nothing
[02:29] <ubuntunewbie> here in the Philippines people are switching to LINUX because the government is arresting and fining people who have pirated Microsoft products. MS products are way to expensive here. (P 3,00 for XP homr edition, Average montly income per person only  P 5,000, MS office small business edition = P 15,000)  I think this ubuntu project will surely help us a lot
[02:29] <njan> Ekibyougami, and they're not warez, ftr. :P
[02:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ no, not a gdm theme.
[02:29] <[FiDO] > never had this problem with hoary
[02:29] <sn9> GTroy: ifconfig
[02:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ i'm not talking about a gdm theme.  i'm talking about a gtk+ theme.  for the login box in gdm.
[02:30] <ubuntunewbie> But the problem is there's too much Linux distros, people are confused. And there is this misconception about LINux being only for the techies. I hope ubuntu will overcome these obstacles
[02:30] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: Then you need to explain yourself better. The login screen is a GDM theme. Not a gtk one.
[02:30] <Stricklin> okay! Wish me luck! (I have a feeling I'm going to need it.)
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> "MS Anti-piracey effort - promoting Linux ussage" - on the next slashdot!
[02:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> doesn't anyone know what i'm talking about? in gdm or in kdm, you can have the "theme" version, or a just a generic box.
[02:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ run gdmsetup
[02:30] <njan> cafuego_, the login screen can use GTK themes.
[02:30] <Ekibyougami> i have office beta, VS .net, adobe CS, and macromedia studio on my win
[02:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> "themed greeter"  "gtk+ greeter"
[02:30] <Ekibyougami> and thats about it
[02:30] <njan> cafuego_, the login box can be drawn using gtk.
[02:30] <[FiDO] > the display server has been shutdown 6 times in the last 90 seconds
[02:30] <Stricklin> Dr_Willis, I can see that. Easily.
[02:30] <sn9> thirso: no output?
[02:31] <njan> cafuego_, it just generally doesn't, most distros ignore that functionality.
[02:31] <[FiDO] > is there something I can change in xorg.conf to fix this
[02:31] <shagg> how can I force a package to install (broken pipe error)?
[02:31] <Stricklin> Here goes!
[02:31] <moshe> what's the deal with backports?
[02:31] <thirso> sn9, th@ubuntu:~/Downloads/cmpci$ modprobe snd-cmipci
[02:31] <thirso> FATAL: Module snd_cmipci not found.
[02:31] <cafuego_> "Themed Greeter" -> Yes, find a gdm theme.
[02:31] <nickrud> BROKEN_LADDER, you need to edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, look for setting the gtkrc file
[02:31] <doctordemento> need help with Totem video player
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> Stricklin,  the same week that MS says 'we' (as in not MS)  need to make a  $300  PC.. THEN the next day.. MS says "cheap pc's promote MS piracy.."
[02:31] <bud|tarrant> I'm a noob looking to install on an old system. Will ubuntu run on a 400k6-2 w/ 256mb ram and (two) hd's (6.4 and 20)?
[02:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> nickrud how's that going to get a new theme on my system?
[02:32] <bachler> http://users.laggarbo.net/~alexander/breezy/breezy_monoply_1600.jpg
[02:32] <[FiDO] > I'm having some display problems can someone help me
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> bud|tarrant,  i had it on a Pent100 system. :P 4 gb hd,
[02:32] <bud|tarrant> did it run clean?
[02:32] <Ekibyougami> i had xp pro corp on a pentium pro with 64mb of ram
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> it ran.  the install took FOREVER...
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> but it ran ok.
[02:32] <nickrud> BROKEN_LADDER, gdm themes are gdm themes; gdm uses gtk to draw. the gtkrc file is where gdm looks for the gtk theme it uses where needed
[02:32] <bud|tarrant> lol great.
[02:32] <Ekibyougami> and it ran smoothly =x
[02:32] <bud|tarrant> okay, and, how should I partition and setup for the gui?
[02:32] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell FliesLikeABrick  about segmentation faults
[02:33] <freebase> when i'm trying to boot win xp from grub the screen turns black. how can i solve this?
[02:33] <bud|tarrant> I installed mandriva 10.2 and I still boot to a text based system
[02:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> GtkTheme=Human
[02:33] <cafuego_> Dr_Willis: Cheap PCs can't run XP, let alone Vista, so i don't think they have a valid point ;-)
[02:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> nickrud  so i need a gtk theme
[02:33] <mkyb14> says when i try and install that it is unable to open inital console.... what's that mean
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> cafuego_,  they never have a valid point. :P but theres the new-Uber-Lite-crippledXP soon to be out... somewhere... somewhen...
[02:33] <thirso> sn9, :/ why wont my alsaconf work?
[02:33] <njan> cafuego_, or ubuntu, for that matter. :P:P
[02:33] <bud|tarrant> My company is doing the computer and stuff for Extreme House Makeover ;-P
[02:33] <moshe> does anyone know why backports stopped working?
[02:34] <Mez> moshe: mirrormax or archive.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <cafuego_> njan: No, but then Ubuntu isn't the only Linux in town.
[02:34] <bud|tarrant> okay, and, how should I partition and setup for the gui?
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell FliesLikeABrick  about segfault
[02:34] <njan> cafuego_, and XP/Vista aren't the only windows variants in town :)
[02:34] <wsmith> Where else can I look if glxinfo reports that direct rendering is not available, however, xorg.log reports that it is, and I have enough permissions?
[02:34] <moshe> I thought I was using mirrormax
[02:34] <sn9> thirso: i have an idea
[02:34] <moshe> and what happened to the backports website?
[02:34] <cafuego_> bud|tarrant: Are you asking mandriva questions?
[02:34] <bud|tarrant> no, cafuego_
[02:34] <[FiDO] > I'm having some display problems with my new breezy install can someone help me
[02:34] <das> moshe: i think backports isnt on the server yet
[02:34] <bud|tarrant> but I didn't have luck with mandriva so I'm moving on
[02:34] <cafuego_> moshe: There are no breezy backports, as there is no newer version.
[02:34] <breakthestate> so i just typed a ";" on accident after a bash command and now I can't get out of the ">" thing
[02:34] <doctordemento> how do you install plug ins to view proprietary formats in totem?
[02:35] <cafuego_> bud|tarrant: good :-)
[02:35] <moshe> I'm still running hoart
[02:35] <moshe> hoary
[02:35] <Ekibyougami> mandrake has always been goofy
[02:35] <JDigital> breakthestate: ctrl-c
[02:35] <bud|tarrant> I just stated that I previously had a problem with mandriva, I simply want some help with the partitioning on this ubuntu
[02:35] <bud|tarrant> I have two physical drives
[02:35] <sn9> thirso: find /lib/modules -name *cmi*
[02:35] <breakthestate> JDigital: thx
[02:35] <bud|tarrant> a 6.4gb drive and a 20gb drive
[02:35] <k-0tik> can i install to breezy from apt-get?
[02:35] <cafuego_> moshe: Ok, mirrormax is dead.
[02:35] <moshe> wha'ts the url I should have in sources.list then?
[02:35] <k-0tik> i kno wyou could upgrade to colony 3
[02:35] <thirso> sn9. lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/cluster/cmirror
[02:35] <thirso> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/cluster/cmirror/dm-cmirror.ko
[02:35] <JDigital> k-0tik: Yeah, but synaptic is easier
[02:35] <cafuego_> bud|tarrant: Probably use the 6.4GB drive as / and the 20G drive as /home
[02:35] <breakthestate> k-Otik: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:35] <ubuntunewbie> 3rd world countries like the Philippines uses a lot of 2nd hand PCs because it's much cheaper. (Pentium I to Pentium III maybe some 486 :-)) I think ubuntu should have a variant that is light and runs on these old PCs and support old hardware (The latest ubuntu variant is too heavy for old hardware) This is not only true for the Philiippines but other 3rd world counties as well (Check out the CNET news people from europe and the U.S.A are shipping
[02:35] <ubuntunewbie> their old PC to 3rd world)
[02:35] <nickrud> oh, it's been changed a bit: add a theme from /usr/share/themes to allowed themes, I guess
[02:36] <cafuego_> bud|tarrant: with 512MB or so swap on the 20G drive
[02:36] <bud|tarrant> okay, and will those be uhh.. what type of filesystems?
[02:36] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: There is one
[02:36] <JDigital> ubuntu-lite
[02:36] <Ekibyougami> 486, wow i remember those
[02:36] <bud|tarrant> okay, 512mb ext2?
[02:36] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ehi? what is the name of the auto device mounting package inserted in ubuntu breezy?
[02:36] <ubuntunewbie> If ubuntu does this it will be very very popular in 3rd world countries most of the LINUX distros runs so sloooooowwww in old systems
[02:36] <bud|tarrant> 6.4gb root as... what filesystem?
[02:36] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: Try 'xubuntu', it uses xfce instead of Gnome.
[02:36] <cafuego_> bud|tarrant: ext3
[02:36] <ubuntunewbie> ok let me check that
[02:36] <sn9> thirso: anything else?
[02:36] <bud|tarrant> ext3 for the swap? or ext3 for the root?
[02:36] <Jae686> and e16?
[02:36] <bz0b> hey guys
[02:37] <thirso> sn9, nope :/
[02:37] <cafuego_> bud|tarrant: ext3 for root and home, swap for swap.
[02:37] <bz0b> umm, how do i install the ati drivers
[02:37] <bud|tarrant> sweet, thanks.,
[02:37] <cafuego_> !ati
[02:37] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:37] <kojak> are there win32codecs for ubuntu
[02:37] <bz0b> well, i don't have a gui right now
[02:37] <snooo> cafuego_: even xfce is pretty useless on old pcs these days
[02:37] <[FiDO] > yeah I can
[02:37] <thirso> sn9, i downloaded the driver, theres a cmpci.c and a 46.diff (says its the patch to work on kernel 2.6) file
[02:37] <[FiDO] > can't get the gui either
[02:37] <das> can someone please tell why im getting a bad signature error for breezy-updates?
[02:37] <[FiDO] > the display server keeps restarting
[02:37] <[FiDO] > using a radeon 9000
[02:38] <[FiDO] > worked fine with hoary
[02:38] <k-0tik> are the breezy repo's the same as the breezy colony 3 repo's?
[02:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ?
[02:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> so can anyone tell me what's the name of that module?
[02:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> the automount module inserted in the new release of the ubuntu system.. Breezy
[02:38] <nickrud> k-0tik, yes they are
[02:38] <k-0tik> sweet thanks nickrud
[02:39] <cafuego_> snooo: Never used it, so I wouldn't know. My oldest one runs Ubuntu just dandy, that's a 350MHz G3 with 512MB ram.
[02:39] <sn9> thirso: no, don't compile
[02:39] <P229> if I installed the 5.10 release candidate, is there any need for me to download the 5.10 final ISOs, or are the updates enough?
[02:39] <cddesjar> i've been thinking about switching to ubuntu
[02:39] <thirso> sn9, k
[02:39] <cddesjar> i am currently running debian testing
[02:39] <auk> ooh, i fogot to try out xchat-gnome
[02:39] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ?
[02:39] <ubuntunewbie> cafuego_: So this xbuntu thing still has a GUI but is much later than the latest distrubution ? (In our office alone we have 10 pcs that range from Pentium I to Pentium III the fastest being only 500 mhz)
[02:39] <auk> *forgot
[02:39] <P229> cddesjar: from what os?
[02:39] <cddesjar> but i've heard it's a newbie distro.
[02:39] <P229> oh
[02:39] <Tallia1-KubuntU> please it's not a big question!!
[02:39] <breakthestate> p229: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:39] <cddesjar> is it worth the switch?
[02:39] <P229> breakthestate: thanks
[02:39] <ubuntunewbie> cafuego: I mean much later and much faster running on old PCs and support old hardware (xubuntu)
[02:39] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: The base system is identical, it just runs xfce, which is ligher than Gnome.
[02:40] <sn9> thirso: ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/pci
[02:40] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: Still, hoary hedgehog (Ubuntu 5.04) works fine too.
[02:40] <[FiDO] > is anyone else having trouble getting the gui with an ati card
[02:40] <Jae686> were can i find info on e16 on ubuntu?
[02:40] <cafuego_> !info e16
[02:40] <P229> cddesjar: are you a newbie? ubuntu seems pretty noob friendly, but it can be as "powerful" as any other linux distro
[02:40] <nickrud> cddesjar, it's nearly friendly, but still customize to your heart's content
[02:40] <cafuego_> !info enlightenment
[02:40] <ubotu> enlightenment: (The Enlightenment Window Manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.16.6-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 436 kB, Installed size: 1168 kB
[02:40] <nickrud> *customizable
[02:40] <cddesjar> no i've used linux now for almost 2 years
[02:40] <kojak> mplayer isnt in the respository is it
[02:41] <cddesjar> i'm definitely not a newbie
[02:41] <thirso> sn9. ls: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/pci: No such file or directory
[02:41] <sn9> kojak: yes it is
[02:41] <nekostar> hrm
[02:41] <cajones> anyone get realplayer working on a amd64 with 64bit 5.10 ?
[02:41] <kojak> not in mine
[02:41] <thirso> sn9, theres no 'sound' folder
[02:41] <nekostar> im running a soundblaster 2 card
[02:41] <nekostar> and i have no sound !!_!
[02:41] <P229> cddesjar: are you looking for something to tinker around with, or are you just looking to get work done?
[02:41] <Ekibyougami> cajones, why would anyone want realplayer?
[02:41] <kevogod> cddesjar, You would not be dissapointed with Ubuntu.
[02:41] <cajones> lol
[02:41] <mkyb14> ok this Kernal Panic crap on trying to do a fresh install with 3 different cds is really getting annoying.  why would this happen on a fresh install process.
[02:41] <natecull> I've been using Linux since 1998
[02:41] <natecull> and I like Ubuntu
[02:41] <cafuego_> cajones: Nope.. and there's no helix-player either.
[02:41] <sn9> thirso: you should reinstall your kernel. what cpu?
[02:41] <Dulak> how do you get a JRE in ubuntu?
[02:41] <freebase> when i'm trying to boot win xp from grub the screen turns black... how can i solve this??
[02:42] <natecull> switched from Fedora mainly because it's quicker to install and it does a better desktop experience
[02:42] <cddesjar> both P229
[02:42] <thirso> sn9, k7
[02:42] <cafuego_> !tell Dulak -about java
[02:42] <nickrud> then, it's usable to (and, in my personal experience beyond :) your ability
[02:42] <thirso> sn9, axp
[02:42] <LooP_BaCK> hi... i'm trying to install Lufs, but when i try to "make" i got the message "make: command not found"... somebody can help-me?
[02:42] <cajones> thanks - I've googled my fingers to the bone looking.
[02:42] <Tonkar> Hi all! somebody knows how to recover my grub? i installed winXP and erased it
[02:42] <goodtimes> how do I get my sources.list to ignore any GPG errors?
[02:42] <ubuntunewbie> cafuego_: i installed hoary hedgehog (Not tried xubuntu though) on a pentium celeron 400 mhz yesterday. Works fine but user complained that it's much slower than win 98 (Maybe she is sitll not used to it) we were forced to change because of the government raids. Also did not detect an old CNET lan card. but so far it detected other other hardware whcih is good. I'm trying to find support for an LX 300 EPSON printer.
[02:42] <sn9> thirso: then install linux-image-k7
[02:42] <cddesjar> it's my principal laptop for graduate school and i like to tinker around
[02:42] <bachler> http://users.laggarbo.net/~alexander/breezy/breezy_monoply_1600.jpg
[02:42] <Tonkar> i have an debian cd
[02:42] <ubuntunewbie> Maybe I'll try xubuntu this could be lighter and works much better on old systems
[02:42] <JDigital> Government raids?
[02:43] <sn9> thirso: also install linux-restricted-modules-k7
[02:43] <natecull> ie, Fedora used to (dunno if it still does) ship with the 'official' Gnome web browser instead of Firefox which everyone uses instead - Ubuntu just seems to take all those little customisations as standard
[02:43] <P229> cddesjar: well, fedora has done that for me. I installed ubuntu on my laptop because I didn't want to have to muck around with it to get things working
[02:43] <Sonderblade> is there a way to extend the sudo timeout you get every time you run sudo?
[02:43] <thirso> sn9, ok, downloading
[02:43] <JDigital> You might like to try ubuntu-lite
[02:43] <LooP_BaCK> hi... i'm trying to install Lufs, but when i try to "make" i got the message "make: command not found"... somebody can help-me?
[02:43] <natecull> What's ubuntu-lite?
[02:43] <thirso> sn9, but alsaconf works for you?
[02:43] <cddesjar> also does anyone know about canonical, ltd...what's the connection with ubuntu?
[02:43] <freebase> when i'm trying to boot win xp from grub the screen turns black... how can i solve this? plz someone?
[02:43] <JDigital> It's ubuntu but lite
[02:43] <kojak> how do i install mplayer in ubuntu
[02:43] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: yes, but that's not surprising. Win98 is _VERY_ old and _VERY_ crusty. It's not really a fair comparison. If you compare it tin win2k instead of win98, suddenly it's much more favourable.
[02:43] <P229> cddesjar: and I use centos on my server so I don't have to constantly worry about upgrades, etc.
[02:43] <natecull> JDigital: how big is it?
[02:44] <JDigital> No idea.
[02:44] <JDigital> Google it.
[02:44] <nekostar> ok
[02:44] <nekostar> that was dumb
[02:44] <foampeace> hi...does anyone have a problem with pppoe not at boot. requiring pppoeconf evertime
[02:44] <nekostar> i forgot to turn my speakers up !_1
[02:44] <LooP_BaCK> i need install Lufs to use captive-ntfs...
[02:44] <ubuntunewbie> JDigital: Yeah government raids. Arresting establishments that uses pirated microsoft software. Philippine government gave a deadline to business for 30 days. License your software within 30 days they say or else we will arrest you. They are very adamant.
[02:44] <P229> cddesjar: imho, fedora is best for tinkering but still being able to get work done
[02:44] <Ekibyougami> lol neko
[02:44] <ethy> Anybody here able to get World of Warcraft to run under Linux using Cedega?
[02:44] <Sonderblade> cddesjar: canonical owns and develops ubuntu
[02:44] <LooP_BaCK> foam: yes... i have this problem
[02:44] <LooP_BaCK> foampeace: yes... i have this problem
[02:44] <cddesjar> i want a highly customizable distro. with a good packaging system (which is why i've been using debian) but i don't want to run sid cause i need my computer to work all the time
[02:44] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: So, are microsoft paying the government for this?
[02:44] <Tonkar> if i want to enter ubuntu with an debian install cd what should i do?
[02:44] <foampeace> LooP_BaCK: you know how to fix it?
[02:45] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: How do they find people using pirated software?
[02:45] <cddesjar> i want a debian based distro
[02:45] <sn9> thirso: it was just something i though you might try
[02:45] <LooP_BaCK> foampeace: no
[02:45] <ubuntunewbie> cafuego_: I agree maybe the user misses her old system where she is used to doing stuff. However she has not choose we have to switch
[02:45] <auk> hmmm
[02:45] <Tonkar> boot: image=/???/??? or something like that
[02:45] <JDigital> I know people who have pirated Windows for years without being found.
[02:45] <tryingsomething> cedega sucks
[02:45] <bz0b> cafuego_ hey man, i got problem, i was wondering if you know anything about how to get my ati x800xl pci-e card working
[02:45] <tryingsomething> wine sucks as well
[02:45] <bz0b> cafuego_ because i get no X
[02:45] <cafuego_> bz0b: Nope, sorry, nvidia user :-)
[02:45] <cddesjar> so is canonical equivalent to Novell or Redhat?
[02:45] <P229> cddesjar: oh. well, I imagine you can tinker the heck out of ubuntu
[02:45] <ethy> tryingsomething: What do you recommend?
[02:45] <tryingsomething> lost cause
[02:45] <luckyaba> JDigital: they wait in irc channels for people asking about it
[02:45] <Agrajag> JDigital: they don't go after people who use pirated software
[02:45] <sn9> kojak use synaptic
[02:45] <kojak> i am sn9
[02:45] <Ekibyougami> cafuego_, i wouldnt put it past microsoft, they have been paying off hardware manufacturers for 20 years now
[02:45] <tryingsomething> just use windows
[02:45] <kojak> its not in there
[02:45] <Agrajag> They go after those who distribute it in mass quantities
[02:46] <cddesjar> yeah the only reason i would switch to ubuntu is because it's running 2.12
[02:46] <foampeace> LooP_BaCK: i wonder why, your speed ok?
[02:46] <cddesjar> and never software than debian
[02:46] <Stricklin> njan, pm?
[02:46] <bz0b> tryingsomething, was that refering to me?
[02:46] <JDigital> Although I did hear about companies getting in trouble for it
[02:46] <tryingsomething> not worth the wasted time and effort of configing either and then not having it work
[02:46] <sn9> kojak: are all the repositories there?
[02:46] <cddesjar> oops...newer software than debian
[02:46] <P229> cddesjar: I use ubuntu so I don't have to tinker, but that's just me  /me shrugs
[02:46] <kojak> i dunno
[02:46] <tryingsomething> anyone
[02:46] <LooP_BaCK> foampeace: adsl 256k
[02:46] <kojak> sn9, how can i tell
[02:46] <cafuego_> d00d 3y3 n33dz an 4ct|vat|0n k3y for f0r Ubun+u 5.04
[02:46] <njan> Stricklin, replied
[02:46] <sn9> !tell kojak about repos
[02:46] <natecull> cafuego: hehe
[02:46] <doctordemento> help with totem player please
[02:47] <ubuntunewbie> cafeugo_: Don't know. But I don't think so. There's an organization called "Business software alliance" BSA for short it is composed of big companies lick MS, blizzard, shierra etc. they coordinate with the National bureau of investigation in order to arrest people using pirated software
[02:47] <cddesjar> what's the default package manager?  synaptic?
[02:47] <foampeace> LooP_BaCK: i ordered the same but im getting 128k the provider claims they made an error with my profile
[02:47] <JDigital> coordinate with = pay
[02:47] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: Yes, those facists have an office here too.
[02:47] <JDigital> cafuego_: hehe
[02:47] <ubuntunewbie> Jdigital: hehehehe yeah coordinate=pay
[02:47] <ethy> tryingsomething: I could but where is the fun in that? I can get WoW to run when I started a new character, but when I try to log into my existing character who sits in Orgrimmar it freezes on the loading screen, mouse be able to move, there is sound, but nothing else, I have to Ctrl + Alt + Backspace to restart X to get out the freeze.
[02:47] <Ekibyougami> maybe if microsoft didnt charge $400 for beta software people might actually pay for windows =x
[02:47] <JDigital> I remember seeing Linux once on a warez site
[02:47] <ubuntunewbie> I heard MS has it's own police force
[02:47] <foampeace> LooP_BaCK: going to take 5 business days to get what i ordered
[02:47] <sn9> cddesjar: synaptic is a front end to apt
[02:47] <cddesjar> yeah i know
[02:47] <NeverDream> I just installed Breezy and I'm having some trouble with apt-get update. I've pasted the ouput here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3153 and i can't install in packages. Can anyone help me fix this?
[02:48] <cafuego_> Ekibyougami: Why though? Linux is free and works better.
[02:48] <tryingsomething> well that is not fun at all... is it
[02:48] <natecull> cddesjar: yeah Synaptic is there, there's also a couple of trimmed-down GUI package managers for just applying security updates and adding/removing commonly used apps (which I am surprised to find very useful, I didn't expect it to be for me)
[02:48] <cddesjar> but i know that kubuntu ships with that shitty adept
[02:48] <tryingsomething> in windows i bet it works at least
[02:48] <Ekibyougami> bill gates has his own personal security force(read army)
[02:48] <P229> Ekibyougami: people actually do pay for windows
[02:48] <cajones> bill gates needs it
[02:48] <ubuntunewbie> well they just get inside your establishment, office etc. check to see if you have a computer and find out if you have a license
[02:48] <natecull> I hope Bill Gates has an army of robots
[02:48] <P229> Ekibyougami: so do politicians
[02:48] <mkyb14> ok i get a kernal panic will all flavors of linux that i have...... what does this mean
[02:48] <bz0b> is there any linux distro that would probably work with the ati pci express card right off the bat?
[02:48] <tryingsomething> means you are screwed
[02:48] <auk> somebody say my name so i can see how it shows up
[02:48] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: Can't you deny them access?
[02:48] <ubuntunewbie> if you don't they sieze your PC and you pay P 70,000 and face possible impirisonment
[02:48] <radicaledward> auk
[02:48] <mkyb14> and to fix it
[02:48] <sn9> mkyb14: loose cable more than likely
[02:48] <cajones> auk
[02:48] <P229> auk auk auk auk
[02:48] <natecull> awwk!
[02:48] <radicaledward> my name
[02:48] <radicaledward> lol
[02:49] <bz0b> auk?
[02:49] <ubuntunewbie> JDigital: No you can't that's an exercise of POlice power of the state
[02:49] <JDigital> In America you can just tell people that they can't come in
[02:49] <JDigital> ah
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks to whoever told me how to change the gtk theme for the login manager
[02:49] <mkyb14> i can't even get live cd's to go
[02:49] <JDigital> that sucks
[02:49] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: Anyway, not using Gnome will speed the desktop experience up a bit. Also sue abiword instead of openoffice, that sort of thing. I'm not sure about old network adapters... you should perhaps be able to pick up a few second hand realtek ones.
[02:49] <natecull> BSA are quite active in New Zealand as well
[02:49] <JDigital> What does it cost to buy windows
[02:49] <cafuego_> JDigital: Used to. Not any more <heh>
[02:49] <auk> wait, once more..but give me three seconds to switch channels
[02:49] <foampeace> LooP_BaCK: havent read this yet...see what this says http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12896.html
[02:49] <Ekibyougami> aol needs to mail me some new coasters
[02:49] <Ekibyougami> and it would be nice if they send some cork with them
[02:50] <doctordemento> lol
[02:50] <P229> ubuntunewbie: where are you from that they do that?
[02:50] <natecull> I'
[02:50] <LooP_BaCK> foampeace: i believe that is the communication of eth0..
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> now i ain't sayin' she a golddiggah...
[02:50] <natecull> I've just installed Beagle
[02:50] <cafuego_> It's the Business Software Empire, actually. the Alliance would be _us_.
[02:50] <ethy> JDigital: If you buy the Orignial Manufacturing Package version then it's probably around 100 USD for Windows XP.
[02:50] <cajones> isn't a Tagalog version on XP supposed to be out at a reduced cost?
[02:50] <natecull> which looks fun but man is it taking a lot of memory
[02:50] <ubuntunewbie> The philippine government is doing this in order that it might comply with Copyright laws. Well they are also sort of forced to do it because of the huge debt that the government owes
[02:50] <cafuego_> natecull: Yes, a HUGE amount.
[02:50] <tryingsomething> i guess i got kicked from the cedega channel for actually complaining about how shitty their software is
[02:50] <JDigital> hahaha
[02:50] <JDigital> gg
[02:50] <cajones> obviously the 'government' never shops at Greenhills
[02:50] <LooP_BaCK> foampeace: my modem only start when i run pppoeconf
[02:50] <ubuntunewbie> philippines
[02:50] <JDigital> $100 is probably a lot more if you live in the Phillipines though.
[02:50] <LooP_BaCK> foampeace: everytime i boot
[02:51] <ubuntunewbie> cajones: Raids are rampant already
[02:51] <Tonkar> nobody knows? how to enter a ubuntu partition with a debian install cd? what should i type when it appears boot: ... ?
[02:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i change the splash screen for gnome?
[02:51] <natecull> I've got half a gig of RAM and it's still maxed at 100%
[02:51] <ethy> tryingsomething: Which server and channel is Cedega located in?
[02:51] <natecull> I remember when Linux used to be the resource-light option...
[02:51] <ubuntunewbie> in our school, the administration is even hiding their computers
[02:51] <Ekibyougami> you poor sods
[02:51] <JDigital> natecull: Mine too.
[02:51] <tryingsomething> #cedega ?
[02:51] <cajones> wow
[02:51] <cafuego_> natecull: Ha. I have a full gig of ram and it's using 225 MB swap
[02:51] <runenes> Just installed breezy. nice one :) Thought I can't find out how to get totem (gstreamer) to play xvid files. Sound's working, but no picture? apt-get install *fill in blank*
[02:51] <Ekibyougami> i'm running my proc at 50% power and its only at 30% use
[02:51] <P229> ethy: cedega probably doesn't have a freenode channel
[02:51] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: This sounds like a good reason for linux to become popular
[02:52] <cajones> amen
[02:52] <tryingsomething> that's what im on
[02:52] <natecull> Evince is really nice
[02:52] <Rev-Marc> In Ubuntu how do I see the shares that are on my wifes WinXP?
[02:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> in beos you never needed something like beagle.  the entire file system was indexed.  queries were live.  you could search for files containing "rose" and delete a file and see it instantly disappear from the search.
[02:52] <natecull> I am glad I can finally copy/paste text from a PDF
[02:52] <tryingsomething> irc.freenode.net -
[02:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> natecull how?
[02:52] <ubuntunewbie> I don't know about greenhills but you go to SM-CEBU and you don't see any people selling pirated software anymore
[02:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> natecull evince will ignore the "protection"?
[02:52] <natecull> dunno about protected PDFs. Just ordinary ones.
[02:52] <LooP_BaCK> anybody have sucess installing captive-ntfs?
[02:52] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: sudo apt-get install gtweakui
[02:52] <ramza3> anybody know if ubuntu supports the newer sata drives, I have one and guy said something about speed but I didnt listen
[02:52] <P229> ethy: #cedega
[02:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> natecull copy protection is so lame.  why would a pdf reader respect that?
[02:53] <ethy> P229: Thanks.
[02:53] <k-0tik> is it safe to upgrade to breezy with gaim and irc programs running?
[02:53] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: Specifically, session.
[02:53] <k-0tik> i dun wanna take any chances
[02:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ isn't tweakui for windows?
[02:53] <ubuntunewbie> In fact an american and his filipino counter part was arrested the other day for selling pirated WINDOWS XP  (Check out www.sunstar.com.ph click on Cebu)
[02:53] <Ekibyougami> i just mount my ntfs the lazy way
[02:53] <Tonkar> thanks, bye
[02:53] <natecull> BROKEN_LADDER: well, xpdf used to just treat the PDF window as graphics and not understand it as text.
[02:53] <JaZyLNX> anyone have a problem with g++ 4.0.2 in breezy
[02:53] <JDigital> k-0tik: It is fine, I think.
[02:53] <JaZyLNX> i get errors in all the lib files
[02:53] <Rev-Marc> In Ubuntu how do I see the shares that are on my wifes WinXP?
[02:53] <natecull> BROKEN_LADDER: I don't think it had anything to do with DRM, just about being lazy
[02:53] <LooP_BaCK> but i want write acess to my ntfs partition
[02:54] <JDigital> k-0tik: just make sure you have enough free diskspace for the upgrade
[02:54] <JDigital> more than half a gig
[02:54] <Ekibyougami> Rev-Marc, click places, then network
[02:54] <foampeace> LooP_BaCK: yes same
[02:54] <Ekibyougami> write access to ntfs is very hit or miss
[02:54] <njan> Rev-Marc, open location and go to smb://yourwifesmachinename
[02:54] <Ekibyougami> or that too
[02:54] <conn> hi, I'm running kubuntu breezy, but I'm having a problem with my system, but it seems to affect gtk apps. I installed firefox, and when I load a page that's sufficiently long to scroll down, firefox's scroll speed is very poor, it jerks and renders very slowly, but the same site in konqueror scrolls very smoothly and fast. Any ideas? Additionally, firefox is displaying a black mouse cursor when the system theme is the default white. I already asked in #kubuntu b
[02:54] <conn> hought I'd ask here in case others experience a problem with firefox that can help?
[02:54] <JaZyLNX> like it's like it can't find the lib.. it says can't find the dir any ideas?
[02:55] <LooP_BaCK> i know
[02:55] <ubuntunewbie> my friend who used ot be a windows fan, technician and MCSE was forced to do LINUX. In fact within the past 2 months, he had more calls for LINUX installations, support etc. than windows. He told me he had been spending more time in LINUX than windows the past months. In our local dailies you can see advertisments for "FOr sale linux have your pick CDs for only P 100.00 will install too"
[02:55] <freebase> when i'm trying to boot win xp from grub the screen turns black... how can i solve this? plz someone?`????
[02:55] <Ekibyougami> freebase, delete windows =x
[02:55] <JaZyLNX> heh
[02:56] <Ekibyougami> other than that i dont remember
[02:56] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: Yes, we had a floor of phillipinos on the channel as well over the past month. I was wondering why thatw as, now I know .. :-) There *is* a tagalog channel as well, I think. #ubuntu-ph
[02:56] <freebase> need it for gaming
[02:56] <cafuego_> s/floor/flood/
[02:56] <P229> freebase: please describe how you got to the point you're at now
[02:56] <tryingsomething> dont install linux unless you know what you are doing
[02:56] <Rev-Marc> where do I change my network to match hers? IE mshome or workgroup
[02:56] <ubuntunewbie> thanks
[02:56] <JaZyLNX> smb.conf Rev-Marc
[02:56] <freebase> P229, installed ubuntu.
[02:56] <cafuego_> Rev-Marc: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:56] <das> freebase: look into cedega
[02:56] <tryingsomething> cedega sucks
[02:56] <tryingsomething> ; )
[02:57] <njan> cafuego_, ubuntunewbie, sounds like good material for an article.. ;)
[02:57] <das> does it? i havent tried it =P
[02:57] <tryingsomething> it does
[02:57] <freebase> das, cedega isnt free right?
[02:57] <njan> publicity for ubuntu can't be a bad thing :)
[02:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego_ thanks for the gtweakui tip.  sounds like it just does gconf entry edits.
[02:57] <thirso> i can run Guild Wars and War3
[02:57] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: Does Windows cost the same in the Phillipines as it does in America?
[02:57] <thirso> on cedega
[02:57] <Rev-Marc> do I do it in terminal with gedit or something?
[02:57] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: Yep
[02:57] <tryingsomething> i tried playing wow on it - its slower than windows
[02:57] <ubuntunewbie> njan: Good idea I thin I should do that and have it posted
[02:57] <P229> freebase: how many drives do you have, and on which partitions do your various systems exist, and where did you install grub?
[02:57] <tryingsomething> and also without shaders support
[02:57] <thirso> faster than windows
[02:57] <tryingsomething> slower
[02:57] <njan> ubuntunewbie, If you need it proof reading or if you need a hand, shout.
[02:57] <thirso> tryingsomething, disable pixelshader
[02:57] <thirso> tryingsomething, gets much faster
[02:57] <tryingsomething> i dont want to damnit
[02:57] <das> that sucks, i was about to try it out
[02:57] <JDigital> Perhaps it varies by game and by hardware
[02:57] <cafuego_> ubuntunewbie: Ask why the government only threatened, as opposed to handing out copies of Linux and OpenOffice.org
[02:58] <tryingsomething> i can have it all enabled on windows and it runs 2x as fast
[02:58] <njan> ubuntunewbie, I /msg'd you my e-mail address.
[02:58] <thirso> w/e
[02:58] <cafuego_> tryingsomething: ati card?
[02:58] <tryingsomething> nvidia
[02:58] <das> i read that their is an online petition to port WoW to linux haha
[02:58] <gnuts> hi eveyone! time for a question?
[02:58] <thirso> das, i can run Warcraft 3 and GuildWars faster than windows
[02:58] <tryingsomething> i will not change settings for fps
[02:58] <das> there*
[02:58] <thirso> das, theres one for GW too heh
[02:59] <iru> thirso: can u run eq ?
[02:59] <cafuego_> tryingsomething: Well, enjoy your bad performance  then <heh>
[02:59] <das> thirso, hehe nice
[02:59] <freebase> P229, 5 hdd's windows is on sda1, ubuntu on hdb1 wich grub is installed on
[02:59] <JDigital> What price is cedega?
[02:59] <tryingsomething> no i use windows
[02:59] <ubuntunewbie> JDigital: I think so. Ok XP professional OEM here is P 9,000 perhaps $ 150.00. The problem is income per capita is only P 200 to P 300 per day About ($ 4 to $ 5 a day for 8 hours). So too expensive for people.
[02:59] <ethy> JDigital: 15 bucks bascially.
[02:59] <thirso> iru, never tried
[02:59] <iru> thirso : ty
[02:59] <cafuego_> JDigital: Around $50 US I think.
[02:59] <tryingsomething> use ubuntu for other things
[02:59] <das> i want to use it for everything though =] 
[02:59] <ethy> The command "glxinfo | grep" doesn't seem to be right... What did I do wrong?
[02:59] <Rev-Marc> thank You cafuego_ , JaZyLNX, njan and Ekibyougami :)
[02:59] <sn9> ethy: irect
[02:59] <gnuts> I just installed breezy and get "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found." when i try to synaptic update
[03:00] <tryingsomething> well it sucks the most specially because its a paid for app and support sucks
[03:00] <P229> freebase: what's your grub entry for windows look like? (pastebin your whole menu.lst, I guess)
[03:00] <freebase> P229, i think i have installed grub on the win disc also.. coz i cant boot win if i remove the linux disc
[03:00] <njan> ethy, glxinfo |grep something
[03:00] <tryingsomething> at least windows works even if it does suck it sucks less than cedega
[03:00] <njan> ethy, grep looks for 'something', grep on its own looks for nothing and will return nothing
[03:00] <ethy> das: I am be able to get WoW to run under Ubuntu 5.10, but I'm having trouble logging into my existing character, I can only start a new character. When try to log into my existing char it freezes.
[03:00] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: So Windows costs the same, but people can't afford it, because it's a month's wages? Harsh.
[03:00] <ethy> njan and sn9: Thanks.
[03:00] <das> ethy, thats no good =/
[03:01] <tryingsomething> that's cuz cedega sucks and wow is no good on linux ; )
[03:01] <thirso> tryingsomething, sure if you want to reboot all the time or have 2 machines, play on windows
[03:01] <anomaly> anyone using AMD64? I have a 3000 @ 1.8, but Kubuntu is posting with /proc/cpuinfo at 1001Mhz
[03:01] <tryingsomething> disabling pixel shaders is not the answer
[03:01] <njan> tryingsomething, talk to the manufacturers of WoW about it.
[03:01] <ubuntunewbie> But it's very funny. you know why ? The government is arresting people for using pirated MS. However our very own Department of science and technology (DOST) is distributing our own LINUX distro called "Bayanihan Linux" based on Red hat. but it's not so popular and there is not much support or an actice community like Ubuntu. The problem also is that the national government is nnot very supportive of it but they allow it.
[03:01] <ubuntunewbie> (http://www.bayanihan.gov.ph/)
[03:01] <freebase> P229, title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[03:01] <freebase> root		(hd1,0)
[03:01] <freebase> savedefault
[03:01] <freebase> map		(hd0) (hd1)
[03:01] <freebase> map		(hd1) (hd0)
[03:01] <freebase> chainloader	+1
[03:01] <Ekibyougami> tryingsomething, install vmware and a virtual windows :p
[03:01] <tryingsomething> they will not hear it
[03:01] <thirso> might suck for wow but i dont play wow so i dont care :p
[03:01] <njan> tryingsomething, it's not a linux problem or a cedega problem, it's their problem - it'd be the same in windows if you were emulating a linux game
[03:01] <njan> tryingsomething, sucks. Whining doesn't help.
[03:01] <cafuego_> anomaly: It's probably downscaling because it's not busy. that's normal.
[03:01] <tryingsomething> no - dont have to emulate linux games- they are usually fully ported at no cost ;  )
[03:02] <thirso> the problem is with the devs that dont make linux games
[03:02] <das> hopefully this petition to port WoW to linux will have an effect
[03:02] <thedevilsjester> Is there any good bittorrent client in apt?
[03:02] <tryingsomething> doubtful das
[03:02] <JDigital> bittornado
[03:02] <njan> tryingsomething, indeed. Open Source is cool, huh? :P
[03:02] <P229> freebase: is /dev/sda1 at (hd1,0)?
[03:02] <tryingsomething> bliz is just like ms
[03:02] <JDigital> zsnes doesn't work right for me in Ubuntu with OGL modes :(
[03:02] <sambagirl> can anyone get http://www.demoscene.tv to work in ubuntu? it works great on other mschine i useing.
[03:02] <freebase> P229, i was able to boot win when i removed the linux hdd.. before i installed grub on the win disc
[03:02] <thirso> Does anyone play ET?
[03:02] <sn9> thedevilsjester: best bt client is azureus
[03:02] <anomaly> cafuego ty
[03:02] <njan> thirso, I do.
[03:02] <cafuego_> tryingsomething: If you don't ask them to port it, they never will.
[03:02] <gnuts> anyone open for a little help?
[03:02] <tryingsomething> i put myself on the petition 2x
[03:02] <eazel7> gnuts, just ask
[03:02] <P229> freebase: you installed grub onto the windows disk?
[03:03] <gnuts> I just installed breezy and get "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found." when i try to synaptic update
[03:03] <njan> tryingsomething, where'sthe link for the petition?
[03:03] <thedevilsjester> sn9 that isnt in apt though...
[03:03] <cafuego_> anomaly: Add the cpu frequencys caling applet to the panel (right click, add to panel..) and then start openoffice or soemthing, it should jump to full-speed.
[03:03] <thirso> njan, i found too few servers, is there an expansion ppl are playing?
[03:03] <ubuntunewbie> jDigital: If mS lower the prices perhaps people will buy it. But they didn't. So people are forced to buy license software or Switch to LINUX
[03:03] <ark_> Hi! If it's ok I have a little tech question to ask... What's the easiest way of routing an outgoing ip address (10.0.2.15) back to localhost (in Ubuntu Breeezy)? ^_^;;
[03:03] <tryingsomething> http://www.blizzpub.net/petition/
[03:03] <cyphase> hey everyone
[03:03] <sn9> thedevilsjester: it's in hoary-extras, but it's better to get it from sourceforge anyway
[03:03] <das> ok this question is noob, but how can i get azureus to show up in synaptic?  what deb source do i need to put in my sources.list?
[03:03] <cafuego_> or not. ha.
 hopefully this petition to port WoW to linux will have an effect <---- so blizzard can snoop your desktop? ( http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/10/blizzard_entert.html )
[03:03] <njan> thirso, true combat elite perhaps, I haven't played normal et for a while
[03:03] <freebase> P229, yeah :/
[03:04] <thirso> njan, you play that one?
[03:04] <Ekibyougami> freebase, all is not lost
[03:04] <cyphase> finally got internet at home (i just moved) :)
[03:04] <som1> why is ubuntu always ignoring every os i have installed and doesnt add it to grub (i like automatic things?)
[03:04] <P229> freebase: and that's when you became unable to load windows?
[03:04] <cyphase> ark_, use the network cofiguration GUI
[03:04] <JDigital> ubuntunewbie: Indeed. Something as necessary as Windows should be more affordable.
[03:04] <njan> thirso, http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php
[03:04] <Ekibyougami> i had a problem like that before
[03:04] <Ekibyougami> you just need to replace the ntldr
[03:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> when i edit my gnome menu, it has no effect, even when i restart gnome...
[03:04] <ubuntunewbie> In our office we started buying win 98. licenses for P 1,000 ($20) but as we added more terminal we realize that we kept on spending for OS, it's just recently we heard about ubuntu so we decided to switch slowly replacing some desktop with ubuntu
[03:04] <sn9> das: it's not worth putting azureus in apt
[03:04] <JDigital> Good thing that Ubuntu is getting better and better with each version. It makes Windows less and less necessary.
[03:04] <ark_> thanks cyphase.. any option in particular?
[03:04] <thirso> njan, i dont like ET much coz its crazy, ppl jumping like bunnys and shooting
[03:04] <thirso> njan, is that exp and dif?
[03:05] <P229> freebase: you might try using the windows install disk and running fixmbr and/or fixboot (I can't recall the windows rescue console commands exactly)
[03:05] <som1> njan, what problem do u have with ET?
[03:05] <P229> freebase: but I'm pretty sure fixmbr is the one you want
[03:05] <das> sn9, k
[03:05] <sn9> das: D/L from sourceforge
[03:05] <freebase> P229, ok thanks for the help
[03:05] <Ekibyougami> freebase, go here http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm
[03:05] <JaZyLNX> how do you remove symnlinks
[03:05] <njan> som1, huh?
[03:06] <sn9> JaZyLNX: rm
[03:06] <ubuntunewbie> we even had a problem with office because you cannot buy even the old office. I asked a friend where we can buy MS office 97 at least we figured it would be much cheaper. The problem is there is no more office 97. (We can still buy win 98 though) so we explored for open source office alternative right now 70 % of our desktop runs already on open office.
[03:06] <njan> thirso, try it and see :P
[03:06] <Ekibyougami> that will tell you how to get the windows ntldr fixed
[03:06] <Ekibyougami> should solve your problem
[03:06] <freebase> Ekibyougami, thanks
[03:06] <Ekibyougami> no problem
[03:06] <thirso> njan, TrueCombat:ELITE Loki Installer ?
[03:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntunewbie what kind of company and how large?
[03:06] <HdxBmx27> Hey, if anyone can help, X desktop croaked after installing breezy
[03:06] <JaZyLNX> ty
[03:06] <som1> so, ill ask again, why is ubuntu ignoring every OS but windows when it automatically does the bootloader thing?:(
[03:06] <HdxBmx27> *my X
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> HdxBmx27 what do you mean croaked?  what happens when you boot?
[03:07] <ubuntunewbie> small and medum company only 50+ employees
[03:07] <sn9> HdxBmx27: did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> HdxBmx27 i couldn't get to gdm/kdm after upgrading.
[03:07] <ubuntunewbie> you won't believe it but we are a funeral company
[03:07] <HdxBmx27> Says it failed to load it, Umm let me see if I can get the exact error
[03:07] <cddesjar> so mark shuttleworth sounds like a pretty interesting gent
[03:07] <das> whaley, that's very disturbing
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntunewbie lol.  i'm sure you've heard lots of hbo references in your day.
[03:07] <ark_> <<<< Hi! If it's ok I have a little tech question to ask... What's the easiest way of routing an outgoing ip address (10.0.2.15) back to localhost (in Ubuntu Breeezy)? ^_^;; >>>> Can I do this while still being a dhcp-client?
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> linux helps you guys manage your dead bodies.
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> i like to have sex with dead peopel.
[03:08] <das> whaley, i usually dont have anything else open while running WoW though.. xp + wow = resource hogs
[03:08] <cyphase> hey, can anyone give me any pointers on transfering my evolution data from Hoary to Breezy
[03:08] <whaley> yeah, i was a bit shocked when i read that myself
[03:08] <Ekibyougami> das, maybe you should just go for the gold and run aol as well
[03:08] <cyphase> i have almost all of it
[03:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> most any time i upgrade my kernel, sound doesn't work for a few days and then magically starts working again.
[03:08] <ubuntunewbie> heheheh well people even ask us why we are using so much computing power. Well we are a small and medium company but we cater to a lot of clients because we serve the CDE market (Average workers, poor, and poorest)
[03:08] <cyphase> but the "Personal" contact list isn't there
[03:08] <whaley> i always liked blizzard games when i did game
[03:08] <das> rofl
[03:08] <whaley> but that's pretty low on their part
[03:08] <cyphase> but it's setup like it knows the options, just not the data
[03:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> cyphase you shouldn't have to transport any data.  it will stay in your home directory.
[03:09] <gnuts> hey everyone, know what this means?
[03:09] <gnuts> I just installed breezy and get "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found." when i try to synaptic update
[03:09] <cyphase> BROKEN_LADDER, i know
[03:09] <das> aol was only good when it was my only access to the internet :D
[03:09] <thirso> njan, do i have to download both 0.46 and 0.48 ?
[03:09] <Ekibyougami> lol
[03:09] <Ekibyougami> yeah
[03:09] <tryingsomething> aol is gonna disappear
[03:09] <cyphase> i didn't copy my whole home directory to my new installation though
[03:09] <Ekibyougami> i have a 3" binder full of aol accounts and passes =x
[03:09] <tryingsomething> eventually
[03:09] <das> haha yep
[03:09] <sn9> gnuts: typo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <adisse> cycom, you could just try copying the ".evolution" directory from you hoary home directory into your breezy home directory
[03:09] <cyphase> and unfourtanetly it wasn't on it's own drive
[03:09] <cyphase> a problem i'm fixing :)
[03:09] <cyphase> adisse, i did
[03:09] <gnuts> ok, thanks i'll look
[03:09] <Ekibyougami> apt-get install thunderbird is an easy way to fix evolution
[03:09] <das> i remember the good old days or mail bombing and punting =P
[03:09] <jrattner1> I'm more than a hustler im the definitiion of it
[03:09] <das> of*
[03:10] <ubuntunewbie> We have about 200 services per day alone in our main office (about 6 services per day) that's why we need that much computing power monitoring the dead bodies hehehehe. nah just kiddin we use it for our accounts recievable, database (List of deceased) store electronic documents (Contracts etc) monitor vehicles repairs etc. and do some "e-commerce"
[03:10] <Ekibyougami> just rfid the cadavers
[03:10] <adisse> cycom, ah, ok
[03:10] <Ekibyougami> that would make your jobs easier =x
[03:11] <das> sn9, what are some other really good deb sources?
[03:11] <sn9> other than what?
[03:11] <das> sn9, other than what comes default
[03:11] <cddesjar> could someone tell me some stuff about mark shuttleworth...
[03:12] <zenlunatic> Whats the package need to run the command cvs?
[03:12] <poningru> !sabdfl
[03:12] <ubotu> poningru: What?
[03:12] <poningru> !mark shuttleworth
[03:12] <ubotu> poningru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:12] <poningru> nm
[03:12] <sn9> das: enable restricted, universe, and multiverse, and add extras
[03:12] <das> zenlunatic: the package name is cvs
[03:12] <ubuntunewbie> Broken_ladder: heheehhe
[03:13] <poningru> sn9: multiverse has to be activated in sources.list
[03:13] <poningru> synaptic doesnt have multiverse for that
[03:13] <sn9> poningru: same thing
[03:13] <poningru> yeah not to an end user though
[03:13] <tryingsomething> come visit satan?
[03:13] <sn9> poningru: in the current synaptic it is
[03:14] <ark_> Isn't there anyone knowledgeable here that can answer my question? ;_;
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> i like necrophilia.
[03:14] <poningru> sn9: ?
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> ark_ what is it?
[03:14] <das> whats ur question
[03:14] <toko123> debian 383 ubuntu 433
[03:14] <toko123> interesting
[03:14] <ark_> <<<< Hi! If it's ok I have a little tech question to ask... What's the easiest way of routing an outgoing ip address (10.0.2.15) back to localhost (in Ubuntu Breeezy)? ^_^;; >>>> Can I do this while still being a dhcp-client?
[03:14] <ark_> sorry about the repeat..
[03:14] <sybariten> good evening
[03:14] <poningru> ark_: iptables
[03:14] <toko123> greetings
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> ark_ iptables
[03:14] <poningru> wait no that wouldnt be that good
[03:14] <Sionide> ok so i'm still a bit worried about upgrading to breezy - is it worth doing yet?
[03:14] <poningru> no too complicated for someone to learn
[03:14] <ark_> ok thanks... iptables is cryptic though
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> Sionide it's out.
[03:15] <ark_> but i'll try =)
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> Sionide uhh..you might have some headaches, but once you're there it's sweet.
[03:15] <poningru> Sionide: yes
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> i still can't get smeg to work.
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's not doing anything.
[03:15] <Sionide> might have some headaches eh? i don't want any - that's totally NOT the point of ubuntu :/
[03:15] <sybariten> not getting a terrible lot of hits on apt-cache search blablabla here, from a straight ubuntu PPC liveCD ... could there be a sources list setting i should change in order to reach more packages ?
[03:15] <sn9> Sionide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:15] <toko123> anyone here running amd64 and what mbd and video subsystem?
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> my keymap settings don't work
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sound doesn't work.
[03:15] <toko123> sound don't matter
[03:15] <poningru> Sionide: then backup your data and do a reinstall
[03:16] <poningru> a reinstall is a lot cleaner than an dist-upgrade
[03:16] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: "not doing anything" doesn't tell me much
[03:16] <das> is backports mainly used to update software?
[03:16] <ubuntunewbie> got to go c u all lone live ubuntu
[03:16] <ubuntunewbie> long live ubuntu
[03:16] <Ekibyougami> lol
[03:16] <toko123> in the market for amd64 2 gig sata 80
[03:16] <Sionide> poningru, downside is losing custom installed apps etc. hmm
[03:16] <toko123> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1592091&sku=A455-2102%20F
[03:16] <poningru> Sionide: true
[03:16] <sn9> das: backports ports improvements back to release versions
[03:16] <toko123> will this run ubuntu?
[03:16] <ui> !wine
[03:17] <das> sn9: ah ok
[03:17] <Sionide> toko123, probably
[03:17] <poningru> toko123: ofcourse
[03:17] <toko123> prob and ofcourse which?
[03:17] <poningru> probably
[03:17] <poningru> better answer
[03:17] <Sionide> toko123, well if you instlled the ppc version on it, it wouldn't work.
[03:18] <poningru> 90% sure it will work
[03:18] <toko123> what would be the gothca
[03:18] <cddesjar> how easy is it to install fonts on ubuntu?
[03:18] <Sionide> toko123, i've never had a problem with ubuntu and any hardware i have thogh
[03:18] <poningru> wait a second thats a barebones
[03:18] <Sionide> cddesjar, very?
[03:18] <das> ubuntu > fedora
[03:18] <toko123> try kayak scsi system
[03:18] <poningru> toko123: I am going to change that to a ofcourse
[03:18] <sn9> cddesjar: about the same as installimg anything else
[03:18] <poningru> not probably
[03:18] <cddesjar> cause it's a pain on debian
[03:18] <toko123> do not worky
[03:18] <poningru> it will def work
[03:19] <cddesjar> i am torn as to whether or not i should switch
[03:19] <poningru> cddesjar: do you have the .tff?
[03:19] <cddesjar> yup
[03:19] <HdxBmx27> "I cannot start X Server. It is likly that it is not setup correctly. would you like to view the X Server output to diagnose the problem?"
[03:19] <HdxBmx27> And I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:19] <HdxBmx27> Sory it took some long computer froze, and enyone who responds please whisper me cuz this room talks fast.
[03:19] <cddesjar> about 3000
[03:19] <Sionide> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts <- might help.
[03:19] <thirso> sn9, what was the other k7 pack you told me to download?
[03:19] <Sionide> cddesjar, chuck them in /etc/fonts/
[03:19] <das> ubuntu recoginzed my laptop's sound and wireless cards without any problems, and i had some major issues with that running fedora
[03:19] <Derreck> toko123, That's almost the same setup I got and it ran ubuntu without a hitch.
[03:19] <poningru> HdxBmx27: so whats wrong now?
[03:19] <sn9> thirso: linux-restricted-modules-k7
[03:19] <Keknehv> Hello all... I need some help. In another amazing feat of competence, I managed to hopelessly screw up apt-get. I believe that the easiest thing for me to do now would be to back up my home folder and reinstall. What command can I use to compress the contents of my home folder to a file, maintaining permission sets?
[03:20] <HdxBmx27> It wont start the X Server, so I only have access to terminal
[03:20] <poningru> HdxBmx27: does that happen during hoary?
[03:20] <toko123> Derreck: tou da man
[03:20] <toko123> Derreck: you da man
[03:20] <Sionide> HdxBmx27, it's not called whispering on here - that's for lame yahoo chats and shit. it's called PM which stands for private message - because that is after all, what it is
[03:20] <poningru> HdxBmx27: or did you upgrade to breezy already?
[03:20] <HdxBmx27> it happens during bootup :/
[03:20] <sn9> !tell Sionide about ubuntuguide
[03:20] <das> Keknehv: did you modify sources.list ?
[03:20] <HdxBmx27> it happend after i upgraded breezey
[03:20] <Sionide> sn9 i know i know
[03:20] <Sionide> it's not all that bad if you know how to use it though
[03:20] <poningru> HdxBmx27: ic
[03:20] <thirso> sn9, then i should be able to do the modprobe or run alsaconf ?
[03:21] <HdxBmx27> Bah im used to ttalking on bnet sorry.
[03:21] <toko123> Derrick: what video subsystem?
[03:21] <Sionide> sn9 i've found it *really* helpful in a whole bunch of things
[03:21] <toko123> sata?
[03:21] <poningru> HdxBmx27: ok what was on the diagnosis thing?
[03:21] <poningru> err hold on
[03:21] <poningru> HdxBmx27: what vid card do you have?
[03:21] <sn9> HdxBmx27: which video driver?
[03:21] <sybariten> i'm watching the most gay "ibiza" video
[03:21] <HdxBmx27> nevida geFore2
[03:21] <sn9> thirso: reboot, then modprobe
[03:21] <zenlunatic> when i try to ./autogen.sh --prefix =/usr it says i need automake 1.7.x, what do i do?
[03:21] <poningru> hmm that should not have be the prob
[03:21] <Derreck> toko123, I have an agp nvidia geforce 6800 gt. I won't use anything but nvidia anymore.
[03:22] <das> get automake 1.7.x then
[03:22] <poningru> HdxBmx27: can you post the diagnosis thing on a pastebin or on #flood
[03:22] <zenlunatic> das, how?
[03:22] <sn9> hdx were you using nvidia's drivers?
[03:22] <Sionide> zenlunatic, search for automake in synaptic ?
[03:22] <das> go to synaptic
[03:22] <toko123> derrick:how much money usa?
[03:22] <Keknehv> das: Yes... I was trying to upgrade to breezy from warty
[03:22] <sn9> Keknehv: you can't do that
[03:23] <HdxBmx27> hold on a second let me type it up
[03:23] <sn9> Keknehv: must go to hoary first
[03:23] <Derreck> toko123, 250-300 bucks.
[03:23] <toko123> Derrick:really a server with a gui backend
[03:23] <HdxBmx27> "/etc/X11/X is not exicutable"
[03:23] <das> hmm, ive never liked upgrading, just install a fresh copy of breezy :D
[03:23] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about limewire
[03:23] <toko123> http://mreavey.homeip.net:8001
[03:23] <toko123> test site
[03:24] <sybariten> whaddayado if you get a lot of errors when trying different apt commands .... because of sources, or repositories, most probably ?
[03:24] <Ekibyougami> hdx, the propper command is startx
[03:24] <sn9> HdxBmx27: you've really borked it
[03:24] <Keknehv> sn9: Yes, I realized that. Then I tried to upgrade to hoary, but I had already screwed something up... anyways, what's a good command to back up my home folder?
[03:24] <toko123> to move to production in a school system taht is ms domonated server must work out od the box
[03:24] <Derreck> toko123, I use mine for a ton of games, you wouldn't need anywhere near that much video just to run a desktop.
[03:24] <sybariten> i am running the PPC live version, and went to ubuntuguide and checked their tips for editing the sources list
[03:24] <Sionide> sybariten, check your /etc/apt/sources.list file is alright?
[03:24] <sn9> Keknehv: tar
[03:25] <HdxBmx27> well :/
[03:25] <Sionide> Keknehv, depends how big it is
[03:25] <sybariten> Sionide: well ... i added what's at ubuntuguide, basicly
[03:25] <HdxBmx27> If need be I can jsut reformat, it will be easy
[03:25] <Sionide> sybariten, breezy or hoary?
[03:25] <sybariten> sionide: my ?
[03:25] <Ekibyougami> HdxBmx27, just gzip your home directory
[03:25] <toko123> is the video on the mbd of theis system ubuntu compiliant?
[03:25] <Keknehv> sn9: Ah, suspicions confirmed... Thanks
[03:25] <sn9> HdxBmx27: since you've already started, might as well recover
[03:25] <toko123> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1592091&sku=A455-2102%20F
[03:25] <Sionide> yes, which are you running?
[03:25] <das> ubuntuguide is hoary based for sources.list
[03:25] <sybariten> sionide: breezy is the new version coming out right ?
[03:25] <das> if youre running breezy, youll have issues
[03:25] <Ekibyougami> err i meant Keknehv
[03:25] <Ekibyougami> =x
[03:25] <Sionide> sybariten, it's out
[03:26] <toko123> I run breezy
[03:26] <Sionide> das, yes the whole thing is hoary based - they'll make a new edition for breezy soon i guess
[03:26] <sybariten> sionide: ok ... well this is a pressed CD i got some month ago
[03:26] <HdxBmx27> meh screw it, I didnt have anything on that comp anyways ima reformat and see what happens
[03:26] <toko123> fc2 and slack
[03:26] <HdxBmx27> bye bye
[03:26] <sn9> HdxBmx27: apt-get install x-window-system-core
[03:26] <zenlunatic> when i run make sudo make install i get make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:26] <toko123> the sys I'm on at the moment is fc2
[03:26] <das> Sionide: hopefully, i had to figure all this stuff out on my own =P
[03:26] <sybariten> Sionide: says 5.04 here
[03:26] <Sionide> das, the forums are also very helpful
[03:27] <das> Sionide: i just installed ubuntu yesterday... quite the learning process
[03:27] <Ekibyougami> i remember when i first learned linux... i had a book from the library that weighed about a ton
[03:27] <Sionide> sybariten, that's hoary - it just means that the backports are being rubbish and refusing connections or whatever
[03:27] <Sionide> das, good on you :)
[03:27] <das> Sionide: hehe
[03:27] <Sionide> Ekibyougami, ouch - i hate linux books
[03:27] <toko123> Eki: when?
[03:27] <Ekibyougami> me too Sionide
[03:27] <nickrud> zenlunatic, try make && sudo make install
[03:27] <das> just read what you need to know
[03:27] <das> =P
[03:27] <sybariten> sionide: ok ... what are "backports" ?
[03:27] <Ekibyougami> toko, like around 98-99
[03:27] <poningru> toko123: dont think that has onboard vid
[03:27] <Sionide> !backpors
[03:27] <ubotu> Sionide: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:27] <Sionide> oops
[03:27] <Sionide> !backports
[03:27] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:28] <toko123> Eki:your name is too hard for me to type
[03:28] <Sionide> see the more info link, there ^
[03:28] <xsquared> i don't like backports
[03:28] <Sionide> toko123, type Eki and press tab
[03:28] <Ekibyougami> thats fine, most people call me eki
[03:28] <toko123> thanks
[03:28] <zenlunatic> nickrud, ...
[03:28] <sybariten> and is there a magic bunch of lines one could add to the sources (for a ppc machine) to get the most responses possible from apt commands ?
[03:28] <sybariten> ah
[03:28] <xsquared> bad experiences and dependancy problems
[03:28] <zenlunatic> zenlunatic@ubuntu:~/clearlooks-cairo$ make && sudo make install
[03:28] <zenlunatic> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:28] <das> man this channel is so active, its like watching a tennis match
[03:28] <Sionide> xsquared, i've only ever had one bad experience
[03:28] <toko123> Sionide:thanks
[03:28] <Ekibyougami> zenlunatic, dod you ./configure yet?
[03:28] <xsquared> do you like tennis matches?
[03:28] <poningru> toko123: that thing you linked to does not have a vid card
[03:28] <toko123> xchat but bnirc rules
[03:28] <eazel7> hi ppl
[03:28] <nickrud> zenlunatic, your command didn't allow the make to complete as a unique command; the && checks that make worked ok, then executes the install
[03:29] <xsquared> irssi > all.
[03:29] <das> yeah, theyre entertaing
[03:29] <Sionide> toko123, quite a useful tip to know that ;) eg. type sio and press tab, boom!
[03:29] <toko123> poningru: thanks
[03:29] <zenlunatic> Ekibyougami, i did ./autogen.sh --prefix =/usr
[03:29] <das> entertaining*
[03:29] <Ekibyougami> ahh
[03:29] <Sionide> right, i better get to bed
[03:29] <Sionide> night all
[03:29] <Sionide> i'm staying hoary for the time being..
[03:29] <das> est?
[03:29] <das> for you
[03:29] <toko123> so what video substem cheap do you slamm dunck?
[03:30] <Ekibyougami> i need to get a desoldering braid, and an agp 8x ati mobility =x
[03:30] <toko123> nvidia gforce 2500?
[03:30] <xsquared> what do you guys think of the hurd kernel?
[03:30] <nickrud> zenlunatic, sorry, this channel can move fast
[03:31] <toko123> I've "hurd" of it
[03:31] <noodle> is vlc suppose touse gtk1? i just installed wxvlc on breezy and it's so ugly
[03:31] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i have a maths programme installed (called maple), and to run it i can type "sh ~/.maple9.5/bin/xmaple" at the command line and it works, but how can i make a launcher for the top row of icons?
[03:31] <sexcopter8000m> i tried putting that in as a command but nothing then happens
[03:31] <ramza3> I am trying to write an ubuntu iso using cdroast, does xcdroast support just a plain iso from the file?
[03:31] <nalioth> nickrud: that's why you should join #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic to show folks things
[03:31] <Ekibyougami> noodle, there are different versions of vlc you can install, wxvlc, vlcgtk+, vlctK
[03:31] <mjr> hurd is, at the core, technically nicer. I'm looking forward to being able to use it sometime next decade.
[03:31] <nickrud> nalioth, a point
[03:32] <noodle> Ekibyougami: where is the gtk+ version?
[03:32] <Ekibyougami> universe reppsitory, or on the vlc website
[03:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> programs aren't opening in the same workspaces they're on when i exit.  namely xchat and firefox.
[03:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> this never happens in kde.  what is gnome doing?
[03:32] <das> whats the easiest way to install java sdk 1.5? using apt/synaptic?
[03:33] <sn9> das: on breezy?
[03:33] <synd> das: From the website, IIRC.
[03:33] <xsquared> java sucks
[03:33] <das> haha
[03:33] <Ekibyougami> das, open synaptic, click file and then advanced
[03:33] <synd> xsquared: Indeed so.
[03:33] <ezrider> Ubuntu crashes at startup when my wireless connection is on. anyone can help ?
[03:33] <Ekibyougami> and then search java-sdk
[03:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have a huge problem.  whenever i exit my x session, the login manager never comes back up, and my screen goes to sleep.
[03:33] <sn9> das: for breezy, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[03:33] <dao> !tell das about javadeb
[03:33] <sampan> since kubuntu is silent ... i'll ask here -- just installed kubuntu breezy -- when i plug in a flash drive, konq comes up and gives me an error: media does not exist (sda)
[03:34] <sampan> anyone know how to go about fixing that?
[03:34] <sexcopter8000m> ok, problem solved :)
[03:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> das i think it's called "adept" now.
[03:35] <cafuego_> sampan: Can you manually mount it?
[03:35] <ezrider> anyone can help me with my wireless connection problem ?
[03:36] <sn9> ezrider: connection prob?
[03:36] <Dnadog> is there anythin in ubuntu better than vnc for remote X display?
[03:36] <sampan> cafuego, actually, it's mounted as /media/usbdisk/  but if konq is going to auto-pop up with that, it'd be nice if it would actually go to the right spot?
[03:36] <ezrider> sn9 : ubuntu crashes when my wireless connection is turned on on my laptop
[03:36] <ezrider> before the login screen
[03:36] <sn9> Dnadog: i like to forward X over ssh
[03:36] <ezrider> if I turn the connection off, everything is fine
[03:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> ezrider i think there's an abundance of people needing help lately, and so it's hard to come by.
[03:37] <ezrider> broken_ladder : sorry, i'm just trying to fix my laptop...
[03:37] <sn9> ezrider: which driver? ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <cafuego_> ezrider: What wifi chip is it?
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> ezrider sorry for what?
[03:37] <haasteem> hi, i have a question considering using accented characters... how can i, using just the accent keys and the letter i want accented get the right output on screen, e.g. 'e?
[03:37] <Dnadog> can i forward the default X display
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem edit your xkd file
[03:37] <ezrider> broken : i don't know... I thought you were telling me not to ask help twice :p
[03:37] <sybariten> sionide: tbank you! after adding the back ports thing ... or... more like replacing it there .. .its almost hte only entry to the sources list now ... i managed to get a much better package list when searching!
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> xkb file
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem let me find you an example...
[03:37] <cafuego_> sampan: Well, there is that :-)  But you can access it fine when you go to the right location?
[03:37] <haasteem> alright
[03:38] <newbie_at_linux> I am getting an error when I try to run configure. I installed build-essential. I get these errors: checking for main in -lopenal... no
[03:38] <newbie_at_linux> checking for main in -lopenal32... no    checking for main in -lalut... no    checking OpenAL... no    configure: error: OpenAL is currently mandatory
[03:38] <cafuego_> ezrider: 'lspci' will tell you what wifi chip it is.
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem here's a line from my /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/dvorak to use esperanto accented characters...
[03:38] <Dnadog> i have a monitorless pc that i had been using redhad and vnc now installed ubuntu and looking for the best option
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER>     key <AD07> { [          g,  G, gcircumflex, Gcircumflex ]    };
[03:38] <cafuego_> newbie_at_linux: What are you compiling?
[03:38] <shagg> is there an easy way to fix a broken pipe error when doing an apt-get?
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem the circumflex is a kind of accent.
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem there is also the breve and grave
[03:38] <haasteem> broken_ladder: right
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem you have to choose your third level chooser in keyboard settingns.
[03:38] <sn9> shagg: just do it again
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> settings.
[03:39] <shagg> sn9 - tried that.  still no love.
[03:39] <cafuego_> the accnt circumflex?
[03:39] <sampan> cafuego_: yeah ... and to be fair, i hadn't realized that it was already mounted in /media/ (i thought it was gonna be flash or something, not usbdisk) till i checked with ls /media/ after you asked that
[03:39] <haasteem> broken_ladder: there is no setting possible for the keyboard to do so? i have to do it manually?
[03:39] <zenlunatic> zenlunatic@ubuntu:~/clearlooks-cairo$ make && make install
[03:39] <zenlunatic> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:39] <newbie_at_linux> cafuego warzone2100-0.2.2.tar.bz2
[03:39] <zenlunatic> what does that mean?
[03:39] <cafuego_> sampan: Sounds like a misconfigured script, perhaps file a bugreport
[03:39] <haasteem> i am english speaking, but in quebec, so accented charcters are kind of a must
[03:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem the keymap file has to specify that i think.  you should use a keymap file for the language you want to type in.
[03:39] <AbeMaestro> wow 432 people.
[03:39] <newbie_at_linux> cafuego it is a game
[03:39] <sampan> i'm ashamed to say i don't even know how to file a bug report :X
[03:39] <concept10> Anyone installed the ubuntu mythtv package yet?
[03:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem you should be able to pick a keymap for that area.
[03:40] <zenlunatic> anyone have a pkg for clearlooks-cairo?
[03:40] <AbeMaestro> wow concept, that is why I'm here...I want mythtv too.
[03:40] <ezrider> sn9 : atheros chipset, it worked out of the box after my installation
[03:40] <AbeMaestro> I have a question.
[03:40] <sybariten> i have two questions about the file system. A) i am running a powermac, from a liveCD ... is it probable that i can just mount the HD with some command and get it under mnt or so?  B) i have connected to a windows share, can see it in a win on the desktop ... but where would i find it in the filesystem ?
[03:40] <cafuego_> newbie_at_linux: Ok. You will need 'checkinstall'. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall and the openal-dev package.
[03:40] <AbeMaestro> what version of linux does ubuntoo use?
[03:40] <haasteem> broken_ladder: where do i do this?
[03:40] <sn9> ezrider: are you using the madwifi driver?
[03:40] <Razor-X> zenlunatic: you like the original Windows NT that much? :P
[03:40] <shagg> any other way (other than retrying) around a broken pipe apt-get error?
[03:41] <zenlunatic> Razor-X, it wasn't bad, why?
[03:41] <ezrider> sn9 : I don't know. After installation i set it up in Admin-network and everything was fine
[03:41] <Razor-X> zenlunatic: it's codename was ``Cairo'' :P
[03:41] <concept10> AbeMaestro, use tab complete for names
[03:41] <zenlunatic> Razor-X, oh
[03:41] <sn9> ezrider: it was detected automagically?
[03:42] <AbeMaestro> concept10, use tab complete for names? i'm not sure what you mean.
[03:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem in your keyboard settings.
[03:42] <haasteem> broken_ladder: ok, let me check
[03:42] <ezrider> sn9 : i just needed to set up like network name and DHCP, activate it and then it worked. after i reboot it won't load up to the login screen
[03:42] <concept10> AbeMaestro, type in Abe and then press tab and you will know
[03:42] <Ekibyougami> ezrider, it probably is searching for network
[03:43] <Ekibyougami> mine lags during boot when i leave my wireless enabled
[03:43] <ezrider> ekibyougami : ok, but it stays there forever
[03:43] <concept10> Anyway, im trying to find out if the mythtv package takes over the machine or do I launch it like any other application
[03:43] <Ekibyougami> have you tried ctrl-c when it hangs there?
[03:43] <ezrider> no
[03:43] <ezrider> i'll try it now
[03:43] <Ekibyougami> k
[03:43] <sn9> ezrider: which kernel are you using?
[03:43] <ezrider> sn9 : that means version right ?
[03:43] <ezrider> 5.10
[03:44] <sn9> no
[03:44] <ezrider> the latest i think
[03:44] <AbeMaestro> Two Questions: What verson of Linux does Ubuntu use?
[03:44] <Ekibyougami> abe, it is a modified debian base
[03:44] <sn9> ezrider: type: uname -a
[03:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> AbeMaestro you can choose from many kernels.
[03:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> AbeMaestro you can use 2.4 i'm sure even.
[03:44] <foxiness> evrey time i install kerenl it change =mod the menu.lst with uncorrect info like (hd0,2) and the correct one (hdo,1) and must i change this by hand ?!
[03:44] <ezrider> sn9 : will do. just trying that Ctrl+C thing
[03:44] <AbeMaestro> BROKEN_LADDER: The newer version does not support my SCSI card.
[03:45] <foxiness> AbeMaestro, uname -r
[03:45] <sn9> BROKEN_LADDER: ubuntu never supported 2.4
[03:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> AbeMaestro which version? kernel 2.6?
[03:45] <ezrider> ok now cursor blinks and then disappears, teh screen stays black
[03:45] <AbeMaestro> BROKEN_LADDER: 2.6 doesn't support the Initio INI-9100UW
[03:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> sn9 you can't even get a 2.4 kernel?
[03:45] <sn9> nope
[03:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> my mistake
[03:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> i thought ubuntu was older than that.
[03:46] <AbeMaestro> BROKEN_LADDER: I'm dumping Debian, and moving to Ubuntu. So i'm at the install stage.
[03:46] <foxiness> AbeMaestro, are my you find it 2.6.12 if you use 5.10
[03:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> AbeMaestro fun times man.
[03:46] <kojak>  are there hoary hedghog repositories
[03:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> kojak of course
[03:46] <kojak> where?
[03:46] <haasteem> broken_ladder: it's not what i'm used to under windows, but itr seems to do what i want... i have to get used to the changed keys i guess...
[03:46] <technomajian> Hello everyone.  Has there been any issues with a big memory leak in X, after the latest Breezy upgrade.  I'm pretty sure I'm having a problem with that.  I Googled it and looked it up on bugzilla, but I only found one open bug report on it, from back in May.  This just started happening after the last update.
[03:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> kojak just look at /etc/apt/sources.list and change any instance of breezy to hoary, there you go.
[03:46] <ezrider> ekibyougami : Ctrl+C didn't do anything
[03:46] <Ekibyougami> k
[03:47] <kojak> the ones that came with the cd dont have mplayer or win32
[03:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem you can edit it yourself then.  in windows it's much more configurable.
[03:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> c'est bon
[03:47] <hop-to-top> do you guys drop all TOR users or something???
[03:47] <foxiness> ubotu, tell kojak about repositories on hoary
[03:47] <AbeMaestro> foxiness: Is there a way to install the 2.4 kernel in version 5.10 ?
[03:47] <hop-to-top> I couldn't join with my other nick
[03:47] <haasteem> broken_ladder: and that i do in the file you indicated i guess?
[03:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> kojak lol.  dude, you use apt-get.
[03:47] <poningru> hop-to-top: I think thats a freenode issue
[03:47] <poningru> not sure
[03:48] <nalioth> AbeMaestro: in linux you can do anything, but you'd end up with something not ubuntu
[03:48] <hop-to-top> well I can get in other rooms ;-)
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem yeah, but there should be plenty of options to begin with.
[03:48] <poningru> BROKEN_LADDER: dude your nick is freakin loud
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[03:48] <poningru> BROKEN_LADDER: can you turn it down a little?
[03:48] <Ekibyougami> lol
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> dunno what you mean.
[03:48] <poningru> well it is
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's the name of my "band"
[03:48] <dazvid> as in, dont use caps
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://brokenladder.com/
[03:48] <poningru> dont use caps man
[03:48] <poningru> please
[03:48] <P229> BROKEN_LADDER: /nick broken_ladder
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> whatever.
[03:48] <AbeMaestro> nalioth: So, Ubuntu doesn't support my SCSI card, i guess....
[03:48] <sn9> BROKEN_LADDER: /nick broken_ladder
[03:48] <hop-to-top> anyway will ubuntu install on a 233 mhz 32 meg ram?
[03:48] <toko123> ubuntu > debain :93
[03:48] <das> hahah
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> leave my nick alone.
[03:48] <nalioth> AbeMaestro: is it a new scsi card?
[03:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> i hate lowercase letters.
[03:48] <poningru> hop-to-top: I would say that ram would be a little problamatic
[03:49] <das> you just used them
[03:49] <kojak> BROKEN_LADDER, i use apt-get and there is no mplayer
[03:49] <AbeMaestro> nalioth: i bought it a few weeks ago...so its new to me.
[03:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's redundant.  there should only be one case; uppercase
[03:49] <synd> BROKEN_LADDER: So why do you speak in them?
[03:49] <concept10> WELCOME TO THE OFFICIAL BROKEN LADDER INTERNET DATA REPOSITORY.    :)
[03:49] <poningru> hop-to-top: but you may wanna try xubuntu
[03:49] <poningru> !xubuntu
[03:49] <ubotu> poningru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:49] <sn9> AbeMaestro: which driver does it need?
[03:49] <AbeMaestro> nalioth: its a Initio INI-9100UW
[03:49] <haasteem> broken_ladder: what do you mean with that?
[03:49] <hop-to-top> xubuntu??
[03:49] <poningru> hop-to-top: its in the wiki
[03:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> kojak you have to go into /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the right things, or use synaptic package manager and choose the online sources.
[03:49] <foxiness> AbeMaestro, i dont know if it will work or broken your sys but i think yes you can download one from kernel.org and install it
[03:49] <poningru> wiki.ubuntu.com/xubuntu
[03:49] <synd> No answer :)
[03:49] <P229> concept10: his band must shout a lot
[03:49] <AbeMaestro> sn9: the initio driver... it installed in my Debian system with the 2.4 kernel, but not the 2.6 kernel.
[03:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> haasteem i'm saying that in the keymap listing in your keyboard settings there should be lots of options of different keymaps.  surely the one you want is in there.  it even has canadian dvorak.
[03:50] <ezrider> Sn9 : uname -a says :   Linux kafka 2.6.12-9-386 #1 [...]  i686 Gnu/Liux
[03:50] <concept10> P229, heh
[03:50] <toko123> broken-ladder: linux is about standard if nothing else
[03:50] <poningru> hop-to-top: sorry thats
[03:50] <hop-to-top> I am planning on running e17
[03:50] <poningru> wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:50] <poningru> hop-to-top: oh
[03:50] <sn9> ezrider: you should change kernels
[03:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> toko123 absolutely.  standards are good.  like how i use dvorak, vorbis, jabber, sip, etc.  i love good standards.
[03:50] <ezrider> sn9 : explain please
[03:50] <toko123> broken_ladder: go with standards
[03:50] <poningru> then you shouldnt have much trouble
[03:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> toko123 i absolutely love standards.  i'm obsessed with them.  i even use esperanto cause it's a better standard for language.
[03:50] <Madpilot> !tell poningru about xubuntu
[03:50] <hop-to-top> well ubuntu actuall make it to the install screen? unlike mandriva
[03:51] <sn9> AbeMaestro: initio is supported in ubuntu
[03:51] <leetcharmer> !tell leetcharmer about xubuntu
[03:51] <nalioth> nickname discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> when i log out of an x session, the gdm never comes back on, and my monitor goes to sleep.  anyone?
[03:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> ever since upgrading to breezy.
[03:51] <toko123> Broken_ladder: I'm using xchat at the moment
[03:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> claydoh hey, my name is clay
[03:51] <sn9> ezrider: are you on a PIII?
[03:51] <hop-to-top> also does xubuntu have a xserver?
[03:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> toko123 yeah me too dude.  great program.
[03:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> yayy
[03:51] <AbeMaestro> sn9: When I start my install, it does not show up in my hard drive partition list.
[03:51] <toko123> not esp. unique
[03:51] <toko123> by any means
[03:51] <sn9> AbeMaestro: you need to load the driver
[03:51] <concept10> P229, did you used to hang out in #fedora?
[03:51] <ezrider> sn9 : P4
[03:51] <poningru> hop-to-top: yes
[03:51] <haasteem> broken_ladder: i got canadian french now... it's ok i think... as i said, i just have to get used to the differences... and humans are still more flexible than computers... so, i think il leave it to that
[03:52] <ezrider> Sn9 : well my laptop is
[03:52] <P229> concept10: still do (I'm in there now, actually)
[03:52] <Ekibyougami> i should prolly recompile my kernel to 686
[03:52] <claydoh> BROKEN_LADDER: heh so's mine :)
[03:52] <toko123> wht can I not use tab to auto complete your handle ?
[03:52] <hop-to-top> poningru: is it smaller than the other ubuntu?
[03:52] <toko123> please explaian
[03:52] <P229> concept10: ubuntu on my laptop, fedora on my desktop
[03:52] <AbeMaestro> sn9: How do you install the driver during the installation? (From the installation CD?)
[03:52] <sn9> ezrider: then you should be using the 686-smp kernel for a P4
[03:52] <newbie_at_linux> I installed Opera. How can I put it in the Ubuntu Gnome menu instead of using run command each time.
[03:52] <ezrider> sn9 : will that solve my problem ?
[03:53] <concept10> P229, how does hoary/breezy compare to fc4
[03:53] <foxiness> BROKEN_LADDER, try to delete .hiden file on /home/$user "backup it on safe place" and try i hope it will fix your problem
[03:53] <sn9> AbeMaestro: in the list of installation steps, it's one of them
[03:53] <ezrider> sn9 : because i think it's a wireless problem, my computer boots when the wireless is off
[03:53] <Madpilot> !tell newbie_at_linux about opera
[03:53] <toko123> Broken_standard: use standard pleese
[03:53] <sn9> ezrider: quite possibvly
[03:53] <Madpilot> newbie_at_linux: follow the msg from ubotu, it's got all the information you need
[03:54] <poningru> hop-to-top: yeah
[03:54] <concept10> I wish the Ubuntu repos kept more that one kernel version
[03:54] <foxiness> newbie_at_linux, from desktop right menu create shortcut and put the path than ok than DND to top
[03:54] <P229> concept10: 5.10 has been much less of a hassle
[03:54] <thirso> sn9, hey thanks it worked
[03:54] <Ekibyougami> the 5.10 preview was fun =/
[03:54] <foxiness> concept10, why?
[03:54] <[216] Shadey> can someone send me the info thing for setting up the sources.list
[03:54] <ezrider> sn9 : ok so i reinstall ubuntu and change kernel before my lan fucks up?
[03:54] <hop-to-top> how to get to the xubuntu download page?
[03:54] <Madpilot> !tell [216] Shadey about repos
[03:54] <AbeMaestro> sn9: Okay, that is odd....I choose the Hard Drive SCSI driver in the last installation steps? How do I partition a drive before I get the drivers loaded? Because the installer wants me to partition first.
[03:54] <haasteem> has breezy been officially released now?
[03:54] <ezrider> sn9 : wireless, not lan, sorry
[03:54] <[216] Shadey> thx
[03:54] <sn9> ezrider: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp linux-restricted-modules-686-smp"
[03:54] <P229> concept10: but, I haven't tried fiddling around with ubuntu, whereas that's a large part of what I do with fc4
[03:55] <concept10> foxiness, say for example the latest kernel doesnt agree with your setup, you may _roll_ back to the old until fixes come
[03:55] <ezrider> sn9 : i can't do that, i have no internet on my laptop
[03:55] <ezrider> sn9 : the only way to get internet on it is to reinstall
[03:55] <sn9> AbeMaestro: you choose the steps
[03:55] <cajones> 5.10 doesn't give me the option of 'adding' a network device (wireless LAN card).  :(
[03:55] <cius> would anyone happen to know what my hdd upgrade options are likely to be on an old comp with a pentium 75 in it?
[03:55] <concept10> cajones, yes it does
[03:55] <sn9> ezrider: can't you get wired ethernet?
[03:55] <P229> concept10: 5.10 also has more up-to-date packages and the gnome desktop especially seems more cleanly integrated
[03:55] <foxiness> concept10, ok use the old cd and add it to synaptic
[03:55] <toko123> sn8:no
[03:56] <poningru> hop-to-top:  you have to configure it using the server option
[03:56] <cajones> concept - over my head then... tutorial online?
[03:56] <toko123> sn9:no
[03:56] <AbeMaestro> sn9: I choose the steps?
[03:56] <poningru> when you first come up you have to pick and choose your packages
[03:56] <poningru> and choose xubuntu-desktop
[03:56] <concept10> foxiness, thats an idea, but they should be in the repo IMHO
[03:56] <hop-to-top> poningru: how to get to the Xubuntu download area?
[03:56] <thirso> Does anyone know how to get OSS to work?
[03:57] <ezrider> sn9 : maybe, trying it
[03:57] <sn9> AbeMaestro: if any step fails, it gives you a list of steps to chioose the next one
[03:57] <concept10> cajones, you might not be able to add the wireless card due to it not being installed (kernel module) what type of card do you have?
[03:57] <poningru> hop-to-top: you use a normal cd and when you install the thing you use the server option
[03:57] <sn9> thirso: did you modprobe snd-cmipci?
[03:58] <poningru> hop-to-top: a normal ubuntu install cd
[03:58] <nemo> has anyone ever incountered this problem?........GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5, When trying to update?
[03:58] <hop-to-top> I see @ poningru
[03:58] <das> whenver i have the option to download something, choose .deb files over .bin?
[03:58] <concept10> How do you pronounce Xubuntu? Zooboontu?
[03:58] <cajones> linksys g @ concept
[03:58] <poningru> hop-to-top: and in the begining you type in server
[03:58] <foxiness> concept10, multiver of kernel not good idea i think you can see how one kernel from team break something there and here
[03:58] <poningru> concept10: yep
[03:58] <hop-to-top> <<has a e17 love ;-)
[03:58] <sn9> das: yes
[03:58] <krystoff> what is xubuntu ?
[03:58] <poningru> !Xubuntu
[03:58] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:58] <cajones> ubuntu for animals?
[03:58] <AbeMaestro> sn9: None of the steps are failing. I have an IDE drive in there that is detecting fine. It isn't finding my SCSI drives which is on my Initio SCSI card.
[03:59] <krystoff> ok :) cool
[03:59] <concept10> cajones, you have to be more specific that that.... for example chipset.... Is it USB/PCI?
[03:59] <cius> holy cow xubuntu sounds awesome
[03:59] <das> sn9, do you get paid for this? =] 
[03:59] <Madpilot> is Xubuntu pronounced "Ex-ubuntu" or "Zoo-buntu"?
[03:59] <hop-to-top> e17 is sexy :-p.. screw xfce ;-)
[03:59] <sector10> hi
[03:59] <nemo> Does anyone know how to correct that problem?
[03:59] <poningru> Madpilot: its the latter one
[03:59] <sn9> AbeMaestro: then switch virtual consoles and force the driver to load
[03:59] <cajones> pcmcia - Model WPC54GS @ Concept
[03:59] <liquidten2> xfce=1/6th the size of gnome, at only 1/10th the functionality (IMO of course)
[03:59] <ezrider> sn9 : maybe if I change my ubuntu version my problem will be solved ?
[03:59] <poningru> because XUL is pronounced zool
[03:59] <shad0w1e> whats the new ubuntu called ??
[04:00] <hop-to-top> http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News
[04:00] <sn9> das: nope
[04:00] <technomajian> BROKEN_LADDER, I sent a private message, but since I'm not registered it got blocked.  :(  Just listened to one of your songs ... very nice!!!
[04:00] <AbeMaestro> sn9: okay, now i feel stupid...i forgot about my virtual consoles
[04:00] <P229> hop-to-top: I agree. e17 rocks
[04:00] <sn9> ezrider: quite possibly
[04:00] <flames> hi, how can i append 2 files (file.001 file.002) to one?
[04:00] <concept10> Im compiling my own - based on the Avian flu called Flubuntu
[04:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> technomajian hey thanks dude!
[04:00] <specialbuddy> why am I having such a hard time with synaptic
[04:00] <specialbuddy> ?
[04:00] <BreezyInCalif> hi room - good {morning,afternoon,evening,night} room
[04:00] <Madpilot> shad0w1e: the new-three-days-ago release or the next one? (Breezy Badger & Dapper Drake, respectively)
[04:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> technomajian you can come see a show if you live near san francisco. ;)
[04:00] <P229> shad0w1e: 5.10
[04:00] <shad0w1e> Dapper Drake
[04:00] <shad0w1e> haha
[04:00] <shad0w1e> no I meant the new unstable
[04:01] <BreezyInCalif> Howdy Broken_ladder - how's it going?
[04:01] <shad0w1e> man the names just get worse!
[04:01] <cajones> haha
[04:01] <P229> shad0w1e: otherwise known as the "gay duck"
[04:01] <Madpilot> shad0w1e: new unstable is Dapper..
[04:01] <cajones> Gnubuntu?
[04:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness .hiden ?
[04:01] <technomajian> I'd love too.  Unfortunately, I live in Northern Iowa.  The commute would really suck. ;-)  But thanks for the offer!
[04:01] <shad0w1e> I was gonna say that was a gay ass name
[04:01] <shad0w1e> lol
[04:01] <cafuego_> poningru: Are you the keymaster?
[04:01] <concept10> forget the names ... does it work good?
[04:01] <poningru> cafuego_: ?
[04:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> technomajian my aunt teaches at isu
[04:01] <cajones> hey - I have a gay ass - got problems with that?
[04:01] <technomajian> Cool
[04:01] <shad0w1e> lol
[04:02] <cafuego_> cajones: pull your pants back up. Sheesh, there are kids watching.
[04:02] <poningru> cafuego_: nope sorry
[04:02] <nemo> If I use Synaptic or apt-get I get an error of sorts, can anyone tell me how to fix this please.
[04:02] <shad0w1e> aight later folks
[04:02] <shad0w1e> gonna go to RL
[04:02] <inthenow> hi
[04:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness i don't see any file called .hiden
[04:02] <AbeMaestro> sn9: how do i force my initio scsi card to load from a virtual console??
[04:02] <das> nemo: hit reload in synaptic
[04:02] <poningru> nemo: whats the prob?
[04:02] <inthenow> how do you bring the eth0 up at boot
[04:02] <nemo> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[04:02] <sn9> AbeMaestro: modprobe initio, of course
[04:02] <poningru> nemo: thats fine
[04:03] <poningru> dont worry about it
[04:03] <Ekibyougami> inthenow, make sure it is in etc/network/modules
[04:03] <poningru> nemo: also I would upgrade to hoary
[04:03] <cafuego_> poningru: xul is a reference to ghostbusters.
[04:03] <AbeMaestro> sn9: it outputs: FATAL: Module initio not found.
[04:03] <MachineScrew> hello all
[04:03] <cius> okay, I know this isn't ubuntu specific, but would anyone know what the hdd size limit would be for an original pentium 75?
[04:03] <das> nemo, i was getting one of those earlier also
[04:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm unable to switch to a new workspace, and when i log out of x, it doesn't go back to gdm but instead my monitor goes to sleep.  anyone know what could be causing this?
[04:03] <cius> I know my pIII was like 127 gigs
[04:03] <nemo> wont it effect anything
[04:03] <technomajian> brb
[04:03] <nemo> I am using Hoary
[04:03] <foxiness> BROKEN_LADDER, press ctrl+H inside homefolder
[04:03] <inthenow> exec nano -w /etc/network/modules
[04:03] <sn9> AbeMaestro: oops, i think it's scsi-initio
[04:03] <nemo> das: I am getting three of them
[04:03] <concept10> cajones, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[04:03] <AbeMaestro> sn9: thanks
[04:03] <cajones> thanks
[04:04] <AbeMaestro> sn9: same output
[04:04] <MachineScrew> cius: hey my gf has a p2 and it was 6gb
[04:04] <das> nemo, whoa, i didnt know what to do when i got mine, it just went away
[04:04] <concept10> cajones, use google  =>  wpc54g ubuntu
[04:04] <specialbuddy> did they change the ubuntu-backports
[04:04] <sn9> AbeMaestro: no, it's initio
[04:04] <das> nemo, but like that person said, ignore them i suppose
[04:04] <foxiness> BROKEN_LADDER, did you saw somthing start with .balhblah
[04:04] <MachineScrew> cius: Regular pentium 3gb or les
[04:04] <poningru> cafuego_: xul is the gui dev thing for mozilla
[04:04] <nemo> das: Well as long as it don't effect my downloads I guess I wont worry
[04:05] <das> nemo: hehe
[04:05] <EasterSunshine> hi all. one question, i have installed java using dpkg -i from a deb in my home directory, and i left that .deb there, but now it is getting in my way, can i delete that deb from my homedir and still have java work?
[04:05] <danl_B> how do you force dpkg to ignore deps and replace a current package?
[04:05] <cajones> k
[04:05] <BreezyInCalif> cius - I don't think HDD size is directly limited by CPU - it's a BIOS issue, neh?
[04:05] <cafuego_> poningru: Yes I know. it's entire naming scheme is a string of Ghostbusters references.
[04:05] <EasterSunshine> and by java working, i mean packaging related to java
[04:06] <Ekibyougami> EasterSunshine, you can delete the .deb file, it is just an installer
[04:06] <sn9> AbeMaestro: look in /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/scsi, and say what's there
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness did i _see_ something?
[04:06] <newbie_at_linux> What does it mean for opera to be the default file handler? Does that mean using it instead of Nautilus?
[04:06] <EasterSunshine> Ekibyougami: and if i ever decide to remove the package, dpkg wont complain that the deb is missing?
[04:06] <cius> MachineScrew, thanks, I was afraid of something like that
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness "did" is past tense already, so you would say "did you see?"
[04:06] <cafuego_> poningru: Including but not limited to 'venkman' the debugger ;-)
[04:06] <cius> BreezyInCalif, yea, I think you're right
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness balhblah?
[04:06] <Ekibyougami> it shouldnt
[04:06] <EasterSunshine> ok i will delete it, thx
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> BreezyInCalif come to sf and fix my computer.
[04:06] <poningru> cafuego_: woah thats awesome
[04:06] <Madpilot> newbie_at_linux: no, it just sets opera up to use gnome-open to handle things it downloads
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'll give you a dollar.
[04:06] <BreezyInCalif> Broken_ladder - what's the magic word ... ?
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'll..
[04:06] <BreezyInCalif> lol - seriously, wish I knew enough to do taht
[04:06] <cafuego_> poningru: Check the DTD header in any .xul file.
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> give..
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> you
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> a
[04:07] <AbeMaestro> sn9: there is a scsi_mod; in2000, ipr, ips, etc...amongs others.
[04:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> dollar?
[04:07] <BreezyInCalif> that ^ even
[04:07] <EasterSunshine> woo ls finally produces multiple columns
[04:07] <greenwom> gam_server ---- what's the deal with it eating memory?
[04:07] <cius> If I were to use a PCI IDE card, does it matter what my bios will recognize?
[04:07] <zenlunatic> what does that mean... zenlunatic@ubuntu:~/clearlooks-cairo$ make sudo make install
[04:07] <zenlunatic> make: *** No rule to make target `sudo'.  Stop.
[04:07] <Tallia1-KubuntU> anyone knows how kmilo works?
[04:07] <cafuego_> poningru: it's either awesome or very, very sad ;-)
[04:07] <sn9> AbeMaestro: but no initio.ko?
[04:07] <AbeMaestro> sn9: Nope.
[04:07] <AbeMaestro> sn9:  do you have one?
[04:07] <felly> my evolution keeps crashing...
[04:07] <cafuego_> !tell zenlunatic -about checkinstall
[04:07] <foxiness> BROKEN_LADDER, did you see something start with . "dot" on your Home Folder ?
[04:08] <WillieBuck> hi, how do you name a volume in ubuntu?
[04:08] <sn9> zenlunatic: it's "sudo make install" not "make sudo..."
[04:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have several bad problems in breezy right now.  my system "freezes" when i log out of my x session.  i can't edit my gnome menus.  sessioning doesn't work for certain programs like xchat and firefox to name but a few.
[04:08] <BreezyInCalif> cius - I *think* that if you use a PCI IDE adapter, the bios on the adapter will take care of cylinder/sector translation for you. But "I *think*" and a buck will get you halfway to a grande at Starbucks
[04:08] <nicedreams> are the ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net down or something?
[04:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> fonsken yeah, about 100 files.
[04:08] <cafuego_> zenlunatic: Don't overwrite files by running 'make install'!
[04:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness yeah about 100 files
[04:08] <cafuego_> nicedreams: they are deceased.
[04:08] <nicedreams> are there new ones?
[04:08] <cafuego_> !mirrormax
[04:08] <ubotu> cafuego_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:09] <nicedreams> !mirrormax
[04:09] <cafuego_> nicedreams: They're on the main archive now.
[04:09] <sn9> AbeMaestro: on an installed system, yes i do, so i thought the installer would too
[04:09] <concept10> Is it true that the breezy installer could resize your partitions?
[04:09] <nicedreams> cafuego_: so how do I install the dvd codec then?
[04:09] <zenlunatic> sn9, zenlunatic@ubuntu:~/clearlooks-cairo$ sudo make install
[04:09] <zenlunatic> Password:
[04:09] <zenlunatic> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:09] <cafuego_> !mirrormax is <reply> mirromax no longer exists. The backports are now on the main archive servers.
[04:09] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[04:09] <AbeMaestro> sn9: what version of ubuntu are you running? and what kernel version?
[04:09] <cius> BreezyInCalif, lol, thanks, I'll look into it some more.  I've got an old p75 I'd like to turn into an mp3 player for the family room, but I need more hdd, so I'll just have to look around some more.
[04:09] <hop-to-top> what does IIRC mean?
[04:09] <felly> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080dde78 ***
[04:09] <felly> run evolution, edit -> preferences : evolution crashes, console msg is:
[04:09] <felly> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080dde78 ***
[04:09] <nalioth> cafuego_: how do you add to a factoid?
[04:09] <cafuego_> nicedreams: install libdvdread3 and run the script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples
[04:09] <foxiness> BROKEN_LADDER, ok move this by your hand to safe place like on folder name it backup on you desktop then logout and login again and see what will happen
[04:10] <BreezyInCalif> hop-to-top, IIRC, IIRC means If I recall correctly
[04:10] <nicedreams> cafuego_: thx
[04:10] <sn9> AbeMaestro: breezy, with the current kernel
[04:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness every single config file?!
[04:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness you're crazy.
[04:10] <AbeMaestro> sn9: hmmmm....
[04:10] <cafuego_> nalioth: if the bot is not broken, <factiod> is also <new information>
[04:10] <nalioth> cafuego_: ty
[04:10] <AbeMaestro> sn9: well...let me complete an install onto my IDE drive...and see if my SCSIs are detected after a full install.
[04:10] <sn9> they will
[04:10] <zenlunatic> cafuego_, couldn't find package checkinstall
[04:11] <AbeMaestro> sn9: of course this saddens the crap out of me...the fact that I'm wiping my Debian install blind to whether or not my SCSI drives will be detected.
[04:11] <BreezyInCalif> cius - I assume that you'll be running Ubuntu or at least some OS that doesn't build into its filesystem its own limits on HDD size
[04:11] <foxiness> BROKEN_LADDER, its your prblem not mine than do what you want
[04:11] <cius> BreezyInCalif, yes, definitely linux, but not sure if necessarily ubuntu.  Depend on what I'll need to just play mp3s
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness then
[04:12] <solidgroove> you have to pay for linuxant driverloader?
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> foxiness it's
[04:12] <sn9> solidgroove: yes
[04:12] <solidgroove> that sucks
[04:12] <cafuego_> !info checkinstall
[04:12] <solidgroove> prism 54\ndiswrapper dont work
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is a linuxant driverloader?
[04:12] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[04:12] <BreezyInCalif> OK - cius - well, the only limitations on HDD size that I remember were (a) BIOS limitations and (b) OS limitations
[04:12] <nicedreams> cafuego_: where did you find this info so I can stay up to date.  The ubuntu-forums site is out of date then
[04:12] <solidgroove> any way I can get an old version of ndiswrapper?
[04:12] <solidgroove> 1.1
[04:12] <cafuego_> zenlunatic: Enable 'universe'.
[04:12] <BreezyInCalif> Should be able to get around those with a reasonable OS and an IDE card
[04:12] <greenwom> Wth is gam_server
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> cius why play mp3s?  try flac + vorbis
[04:13] <Ekibyougami> linuxant driverloader is ndiswrapper, but not free
[04:13] <sn9> solidgroove: prism54 doesn't need ndiswrapper or driverloader
[04:13] <AbeMaestro> sn9: Thank you for your help sn9
[04:13] <cafuego_> nicedreams: by being on this channel 24/7. The forums shouldn't be sued anyway (for exactly this reason).
[04:13] <cius> BreezyInCalif, awesome, I'll have to look into an adapter then, I'm not worried about the OS not supporting it.  ;-)
[04:13] <nicedreams> cafuego_:   lol ...  nice
[04:13] <toko123> Broken_Ladder:what are your sys details
[04:13] <BreezyInCalif> cius - if you end up doing something else for your music needs, you could always use the P75 for a firewall (e.g., smoothwall, ipcop, etc.)
[04:13] <WillieBuck> hi, how do you name a volume in ubuntu (like in XP)
[04:13] <cius> BROKEN_LADDER, yea I might do that, but most of my current stuff is in mp3 so I naturally think in terms of it...
[04:13] <solidgroove> yay 5.10 iso 150kib\s
[04:13] <Ekibyougami> i think most of my stuff is now in aac
[04:13] <cius> BreezyInCalif, would a p75 work well for that?
[04:13] <poningru> solidgroove: last time I checked you dont need driver for prism chipset cards
[04:14] <g14> cius: Install the server install which doesn't install any gui. Then you can apt-get your way to mp3 playing goodness
[04:14] <MFen> woo breezy.
[04:14] <sn9> WillieBuck: you mean an ext3 volume?
[04:14] <toko123> breezy is fine
[04:14] <WillieBuck> reiserfs
[04:14] <seife> Hi, why i cant read my other Windows HD files when i am in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <MFen> 2 boxes upgraded now. 3 to go
[04:14] <BreezyInCalif> I'm firewalling right now using IPcop and a P90; no problems
[04:14] <toko123> on asus amd t-bird 256mb ide
[04:14] <g14> Does anyone agree with me that the default Ubuntu install should make more partitions that just / for fault tolerance and security reasons?
[04:14] <Ekibyougami> seife, is it an ntfs drive?
[04:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell seife about mountwindows
[04:14] <solidgroove> poningru, i have version2 of the smc2802w its a nitro prism chip, only ndiswrapper works not prism54 and i have to do a cold boot for the card to work
[04:14] <BreezyInCalif> I think it's a P90, anyway. It couldn't be much hotter than that.
[04:14] <MFen> seife: you may need to mount that drive explicitly. if it's ntfs, you may need extra software to do that
[04:14] <cius> g14, how big is the server install?
[04:14] <cafuego_> WillieBuck: That's easy, label it when you switch back to ext3 after reiser crashed and loses all data ;-)
[04:14] <Nany> hi, how do I upgrade breezy?
[04:14] <WillieBuck> heh
[04:15] <MFen> Nany: upgrade *to* breezy?
[04:15] <cafuego_> cius: SHoudl be in between 100 and 200Mb tops
[04:15] <seife> MFen, wich extra software do i need, they are NTFS.
[04:15] <Nany> yes
[04:15] <mustard5> tell Nany about breezy
[04:15] <MFen> seife: captive ntfs
[04:15] <seife> Ekibyougami, yes they are NTFS
[04:15] <Ekibyougami> shouldnt need any extra software
[04:15] <Nany> I'm a newbie
[04:15] <g14> cius: I dont know off the top of my head. ~300-500MB or so
[04:15] <nicedreams> what do I type to have mplayer play a dvd?
[04:15] <Ekibyougami> you can read them by adding umask=000 to the options in /etc/fstab
[04:15] <MFen> Nany: are you currently running something earlier than breezy, or are you currently running windows?
[04:15] <cius> BreezyInCalif, thats cool, I'll look into it
[04:15] <WillieBuck> cafuego: how would you do it in ext3
[04:16] <nalioth> seife: ubotu sent you a msg, with info
[04:16] <toko123> thanks
[04:16] <Nany> i already upgrade Hoary
[04:16] <Tachyon> I'm trying to disable touchpad tapping for my ALPS touchpad, because it is excruciatingly annoying.  I've tried most of the tips recommended in the forums, etc, but so far it isn't working. :(
[04:16] <cius> g14, cafuego, thanks, I'll look into that as well, I can afford a few hundred megs surely...
[04:16] <seife> nalioth, yes i know, i opened the page, it have some code, where do i paste it?
[04:16] <MFen> Nany: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace all "hoary" with "breezy". then sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:16] <specialbuddy> what do you do if you changed  the repositories and now synaptic doesn' work
[04:16] <Nany> I have to change the sources.list
[04:16] <nalioth> seife: read it and save it to your system
[04:17] <zenlunatic> zenlunatic@ubuntu:~/clearlooks-cairo$ make
[04:17] <zenlunatic> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:17] <zenlunatic>  ????????
[04:17] <Nany> ok mFen
[04:17] <sn9> specialbuddy: change it so that it does
[04:17] <seife> nalioth, save where?
[04:17] <nalioth> seife: in your home dir is fine
[04:17] <sn9> zenlunatic: you're in the wrong folder
[04:17] <nalioth> seife: it has directions in it on it's use
[04:18] <specialbuddy> I don't know how sn9
[04:18] <zenlunatic> sn9, nope
[04:18] <seife> nalioth, im confused man, it just text
[04:18] <seife> i cant paste text
[04:18] <seife> on a folder
[04:18] <nalioth> seife: in your browser, click "save as"
[04:18] <kronus> clear
[04:19] <kronus> erg
[04:19] <Ekibyougami> lol
[04:19] <kronus> still getting used to irssi
[04:19] <mustard5> specialbuddy, you want a breezy sources.list ?
[04:19] <specialbuddy> synaptic is all messed up
[04:19] <specialbuddy> well I don't have breezy
[04:20] <specialbuddy> I have 5.04 still
[04:20] <Nany> thnx MFen
[04:20] <mustard5> but your upgrading?
[04:20] <MFen> Nany: yw
[04:20] <zenlunatic> if i apt-get dist-upgrade will i get clearlooks-cairo?
[04:20] <seife> ok now what nalioth
[04:20] <newbie_at_linux> what is the command to start sshd
[04:20] <robotgeek> `quit
[04:20] <Ekibyougami> its not sshd?
[04:20] <nalioth> seife: open a text editor and open the file up
[04:20] <amarillo> hi everybody
[04:21] <mustard5> !tell specialbuddy about sources
[04:21] <newbie_at_linux> i ran apt-get install breezy badger and its upgrading now
[04:21] <seife> nalioth, next step..
[04:21] <specialbuddy> synaptic doesn't work at all and people told me not to get breezy badger
[04:21] <specialbuddy> sources?
[04:21] <jim> hi
[04:21] <helpme> im running hoary....can i safely update that to breezy using install CD? without losing any of the other stuff ive installed...plz help???
[04:21] <BreezyInCalif> Chorus: hi jim
[04:21] <nalioth> seife: open a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal)
[04:21] <mustard5> yeah...there are some links from ubotu which will show you some standard sources.lists
[04:21] <seife> next
[04:22] <sn9> !tell specialbuddy about repos
[04:22] <mustard5> specialbuddy, go over the links from ubotu carefully and compare the Hoary sources list to yours
[04:22] <specialbuddy> I did that and I'm still getting errors
[04:22] <seife> nalioth, ok..
[04:22] <navyn> hey i have an error when i log in that says unable to read ICE authority file home/username/.ICEauthority.  How do I fix that?
[04:22] <specialbuddy> I've used it before but it was saying that the server wasn't working or something
[04:22] <cius> I changed my sources recently and did a dist-upgrade and after that I couldn't apt-get anything
[04:22] <nalioth> seife: now in the terminal, follow the isntructions at the top of the winmac_fstab file
[04:22] <mustard5> specialbuddy, you could copy a sources.list from that link directly into your sources.list
[04:23] <cius> I got errors about stuff not being in the new repos
[04:23] <specialbuddy> what link?
[04:23] <mustard5> from ubotu!
[04:23] <mustard5> :)
[04:23] <seife> ok
[04:23] <specialbuddy> what link are you talking about?
[04:23] <BreezyInCalif> I have installed encfs and it depends on fuse being loaded ("modprobe fuse") every boot. How can I automate that?
[04:23] <nalioth> cius: make sure you have all your repos enabled, and dont use non official repos (no matter what the wiki says)
[04:23] <Ekibyougami> add it to etc modules?
[04:23] <sn9> navyn: delete the file
[04:23] <virgule> ok guys.. Just dont beat me to death for asking THIS HERE but I dont know any other 'site' where computer geeks are hanging.. So thats it, I want to launch a DoS attack on a server who send scam/phishing bank account crap. I want to bring it down.. Im not sure how to proceed..who is with me?
[04:23] <mustard5> specialbuddy, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:23] <BreezyInCalif> (The wiki sometimes tells lies ... )
[04:24] <specialbuddy> thanks
[04:24] <cius> nalioth, you mean like universe and multiverse as "non-official"?
[04:24] <navyn> sudo rm home/username/.ICEauthority?
[04:24] <poningru_sleep> night guys
[04:24] <nalioth> cius: universe and multiverse are quite fine, marillat and nerim (among others) are not
[04:24] <g14> virgule: Great idea, turn yourself into the authorities before you even try
[04:24] <eazel7> where can I find information about next ubuntu development version?
[04:24] <ritgerj> need help with blue tooth drivers
[04:24] <nickrud> BreezyInCalif, if you get it right, making th wiki right would be a good thing
[04:24] <helpme> im running hoary....can i safely update that to breezy using install CD? without losing any of the other stuff ive installed...plz help???
[04:24] <mustard5> specialbuddy, now if you are just wanting to stay with Hoary...you can copy that list in its entirety and replace your previous sources.list with that one
[04:24] <sn9> virgule: how do you know it's not spoofed?
[04:24] <helpme> im running hoary....can i safely update that to breezy using install CD? without losing any of the other stuff ive installed...plz help???
[04:24] <cius> nalioth, oh okay, I wasn't using them, I was using official repos, and it still gave me errors
[04:25] <nalioth> helpme: of course
[04:25] <seife> nalioth, one question what it says 0GB disk?
[04:25] <seife> its a 40GB one
[04:25] <virgule> The email I received has made the local news headlines..
[04:25] <nalioth> helpme: and quit repeating
[04:25] <Ekibyougami> virgule, try /join #skript-kiddies
[04:25] <mustard5> specialbuddy, do you know how to edit your sources.list?
[04:25] <BreezyInCalif> nickrud - I do when I can. I'm dim about many, many things, and wrong about others, so I'm careful about giving advice :)
[04:25] <cius> nalioth, for instance, I tried to apt-get k3b and it gave me a bunch of errors about libc6 or something...very wierd
[04:25] <nalioth> seife: 0gb disk?
[04:25] <virgule> the channel is empty :)
[04:25] <Ekibyougami> lol
[04:25] <pospeselr> Anybody think they can help me out with getting CUPS server to work?
[04:25] <AbeMaestro> Hello, I am doing a brand new install on my box. I have an option of THREE base systems to choose from: linux-386; linux-image-386; and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386.  What is the difference ??
[04:25] <nalioth> cius: that's because somewhere you've used non official repos
[04:25] <nickrud> BreezyInCalif, can I steal that?
[04:25] <SuperLag> Any PPC users around?
[04:25] <nickrud> :)
[04:25] <BreezyInCalif> Sure :)
[04:25] <dandelion> Hello
[04:25] <virgule> <-- PPC user
[04:25] <nalioth> SuperLag: yes
[04:26] <SuperLag> How the hell do you get yaboot installed? it fails every time
[04:26] <thewayofzen> anyone able to tell me how i can get  "  libtoolize  "  on my breezy box
[04:26] <sn9> AbeMaestro: pick the one that fits your cpu? what's your cpu?
[04:26] <nalioth> SuperLag: tell us about your hardware
[04:26] <thewayofzen> trying to build blackbox from cvs
[04:26] <cius> nalioth, yea I have in the past for e17, but that was it.  would it still affect me now even though i've deleted those from my sources.list?
[04:26] <ethy> I am be able to get World of Warcraft to run under Cedega 4.4.3 only if I start a new character. When I try to log into my existing character the program freezes at the loading screen, I'm be able to move my mouse and there's sound, but nothing else, I have to do Ctrl + Alt + Backspace to restart X.
[04:26] <helpme> nalioth: will i lose the biolgy packages ive installed?
[04:26] <cafuego_> SuperLag: Did you create a small (1Mb) HFS boot partition?
[04:26] <Ekibyougami> blackbox lessthanthree
[04:26] <ethy> Any ideas?
[04:26] <seife> nalioth, yes i see both disk, but in the name at desktop says 0GB disk hdb1
[04:26] <nalioth> cius: it has replaced your libc6
[04:26] <SuperLag> nalioth: Mac Mini, 100GB internal drive, OS X resides on an external Firewire drive.
[04:26] <virgule> SuperLad: are you sure its a NewWorld Mac?
[04:27] <mntnpngn> anyone know if breezy 5.10 DVD torrent is available?
[04:27] <nalioth> helpme: if you upgrade correctly, no
[04:27] <SuperLag> cafuego_: yes, or so I thought
[04:27] <cius> nalioth, oh man that sucks...
[04:27] <nalioth> seife: the script scans for your windows drives and mounts them for you
[04:27] <cafuego_> SuperLag: Can you check? if you're in the instalelr, hit alt-F2 for a console. Then run fdisk or parted to check.
[04:27] <AbeMaestro> sn9: my cpu is a Pentium II - 450 Mhz
[04:27] <SuperLag> cafuego_: does that have to be done through the OS X "Disk Utility" or can it be done with the partitioner?
[04:28] <louix> my cpu is 633mhz but 64mb of ram
[04:28] <sn9> AbeMaestro: i believe that's a 686
[04:28] <louix> blackbox is the best
[04:28] <SuperLag> cafuego_: I know I did with the partitioner... NewWorld boot block
[04:28] <nalioth> SuperLag: what errors does it give you and what version of ubuntu are you trying to put on it?
[04:28] <SuperLag> cafuego_: but there is no way to format it HFS
[04:28] <cafuego_> SuperLag: I did it with the Ubuntu partitioner, left a few GB free to sue with linux when partitoning in OSX.
[04:28] <AbeMaestro> sn9: I believe so tooo....but Ubuntu isn't giving me a "686" option.
[04:28] <cafuego_> SuperLag: No, but yaboot should do that.
[04:28] <nalioth> SuperLag: you should have to make NOTHING hfs
[04:28] <AbeMaestro> sn9: weird huh?
[04:29] <newbie_at_linux> does anyone use sip? i am using linphone. i have a sip account. I got numbers to call in an email when i registered for the sip account, but i thought i was supposed to call sip addresses that looked like this sip:username@domainname.com
[04:29] <sn9> AbeMaestro: then correct that after installation
[04:29] <cafuego_> SuperLag: is the NewWorld bootblock of type "Apple_Bootstrap" ?
[04:29] <SuperLag> I figured I could have the partitioner format the entire drive, and it would do everything needed, but it doesn't work.
[04:29] <helpme> nalioth: one guy said i'll lose all of it and will have to redownload...note that i'll only be using cd to update....
[04:30] <nalioth> helpme: you are running hoary, correct?
[04:30] <sn9> SuperLag: are you keeping osx or chucking it?
[04:30] <virgule> ok anyway.. back to my main concern.. this is the offending server IP (I got it from the mail source - Its from a Debian server.. If you feel like killing a bastard this is the right one to aim at... thanks you..)
[04:30] <virgule> 204.3.218.32
[04:30] <helpme> nalioth: yes
[04:30] <nicedreams> I'm getting     libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss    when trying to play a dvd with xine.  What could be wrong?
[04:30] <Ekibyougami> abe, you can update to the i686 via synaptic
[04:30] <BreezyInCalif> helpme - I scrolled back and couldn't see your orig qstn but I assume you're upgrading and worrying about loss of data? Key question: Do you have /home on its own partition?
[04:30] <SuperLag> sn9: keeping it, but it's on the external firewire drive
[04:30] <sn9> nicedreams: do you have that symlink?
[04:31] <cafuego_> SuperLag: Incidentally, you'll need to manually compile a 2.6.13 or newer kernel for working sound)
[04:31] <nalioth> helpme: and the reason you cant upgrade from the internet is?
[04:31] <nicedreams> symlink to what?  that might be my problem
[04:31] <newbie_at_linux> Is this the right way to call a number with sip sip:1-747-474-3246@proxy01.sipphone.com
[04:31] <AbeMaestro> Ekibyougami: I don't yet have a fully installed system yet.
[04:31] <Ekibyougami> ahh
[04:31] <dmlinux> Wine wont load exe files , is there a better program to use to execute EXEs
[04:31] <starscalling> hummmmm
[04:31] <Agrajag> yeah, windows
[04:32] <mustard5> ah here is dmlinux now :)
[04:32] <sn9> SuperLag: try unplugging the firewire drive, then boot the installer
[04:32] <AbeMaestro> Ekibyougami: I'm in the middle of an install.
[04:32] <starscalling> <3
[04:32] <mustard5> I've been looking for you for ages :)
[04:32] <SuperLag> sn9: been there, done that
[04:32] <dmlinux> mustard5 hey whats up :)
[04:32] <mustard5> I found out how to do it ;)
[04:32] <newbie_at_linux> Can someone help me with sip? I am using Linphone.
[04:32] <mustard5> much study and searching :D
[04:32] <nicedreams> sn9: what should it be linked to?
[04:32] <cafuego_> SuperLag: is the NewWorld bootblock of type "Apple_Bootstrap" ?
[04:32] <helpme> nalioth: slow connection, limited download limit.......im in india
[04:32] <SuperLag> cafuego_: there is no way to specify.
[04:32] <sn9> nicedreams: whatever your dvd device is
[04:32] <dmlinux> mustard5 foundout how to do what
[04:32] <knoppix_> anyone get the "error loading theme Human" when they boot Hoary for firtst time
[04:32] <mustard5> !tell dmlinux about !customshortcuts
[04:32] <starscalling> so now that i have ubuntu in... what should i do with it?
[04:32] <starscalling> is there anything it really shines in
[04:32] <dmlinux> mustard5 Sweet !!
[04:33] <dmlinux> !customshortbuts
[04:33] <ubotu> dmlinux: I give up, what is it?
[04:33] <mustard5> !tell dmlinux about customshortcuts
[04:33] <nicedreams> sn9, how would I check?   I typed  'ls -l /dev/dvd' and got   /dev/dvd -> hdd
[04:33] <BreezyInCalif> nalioth and helpme - if I'm right, safest would definitely be upgrading from Internet (apt-get update, apt-get --install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop, apt-get --dist-upgrade) - true? But if helpme is on a slow link, then the key qstns become whether /home is on its own partition and whether reliable backup can be made
[04:33] <mustard5> doh...silly bot :D
[04:33] <sn9> Knorrie: hoary? install breezy.
[04:33] <mustard5> I have to dig up the link again now
[04:33] <mustard5> hehehe
[04:33] <cafuego_> SuperLag: yes, there is ... set the 'boot' flag.
[04:33] <knoppix_> breezy? why?
[04:33] <mustard5> dmlinux, did you get it?
[04:33] <SuperLag> wow.
[04:34] <sn9> knoppix_: why do you want hoary?
[04:34] <knoppix_> i really just wanted to try a new version
[04:34] <cafuego_> SuperLag: You want fries with that?
[04:34] <Ekibyougami> lol
[04:34] <dmlinux> mustard5 yep thanks bro, im afk now
[04:34] <sn9> nicedreams: is your dvd drive secondary slave?
[04:34] <mustard5> roger
[04:34] <starscalling> BreezyInCalif: what's that?
[04:34] <sn9> knoppix_: hoary is old
[04:34] <starscalling> for upgrading you mean?
[04:34] <knoppix_> my concerns are acpi, synaptic touchpad, and ipw2100...hoary does it well.. hoary is 5.1
[04:35] <nalioth> helpme: you can upgrade from the cd. put it in your machine and it should offer to upgrade for you
[04:35] <sn9> knoppix_: no, hoary is 5.04
[04:35] <Ekibyougami> i have breezy, and it works fine with my acpi and synaptic
[04:35] <cius> okay, question about synaptic, what's the difference between 'remove' and 'complete removal'?
[04:35] <nicedreams> sn9: yes
[04:35] <cddesjar> !sources
[04:35] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:35] <Ekibyougami> well i did have to recompile for fan control and battery monitor
[04:35] <EasterSunshine> hello all, i have just partitions a 80 gigs disk into a single ext3 partition, when i was doing so, it said 74 gigs are available and i was okay with that, but now, the partition is only 70 gigs, where are my other 3 gigs?
[04:36] <knoppix_> yeah?
[04:36] <BreezyInCalif> starscalling - what's *what*? I'm reading really slowly tonight ...
[04:36] <starscalling> EasterSunshine: it takes a percentage of that disk for the journaling
[04:36] <helpme> nalioth: and u can be sure i won't lose anyhting.....any of the stuff i installed on my hoary.....
[04:36] <starscalling> remember:
[04:36] <Ekibyougami> i also have a pain in the butt laptop though
[04:36] <newbie_at_linux> Can someone help me with sip? I am using Linphone.
[04:36] <starscalling> 1. 80 gigs from hdd company is 80*1000MB
[04:36] <nickrud> cius, generally, remove does not delete configuration files in /etc ; complete removal does.
[04:37] <KArhuton> I use latest fglrx and configured it (properly) with fglrxconfig. All logs seem to say DRI, AGP and such loaded nicely and everything should work. But for some reason glxinfo shows mesa for glx. Using Breezy
[04:37] <starscalling> so its not realy 80 anyway :P
[04:37] <knoppix_> damn you f*ckers type fast
[04:37] <starscalling> BreezyInCalif: your question you asked was about upgrading?
[04:37] <Ekibyougami> i'm really a robot =x
[04:37] <knoppix_> haha
[04:37] <BreezyInCalif> Oh - no - was answering a qstn (with a qstn?) ...
[04:37] <starscalling> b/c someone told me to just preserve the /home partition and then wipe the rest :P
[04:37] <nemik> if i got a USB hub with a large amount of ports, would it work ok on the ubuntu 'server' base setup? would some extra drivers be needed?
[04:37] <Ekibyougami> why else would i have a 'robots need hugs too' sticker on my laptop
[04:37] <KArhuton> All logs = syslog, Xorg, .xsession-errors
[04:37] <BreezyInCalif> I had a qstn about modprobe
[04:38] <starscalling> but i hadnt made that partition so i had to just wipe
[04:38] <dmlinux> mustard5 thats for haory not breezy hehe
[04:38] <sn9> KArhuton: properly means not going to the ati website
[04:38] <starscalling> although on the upside
[04:38] <ian> Hi - Anybody have experience with loadlin or GRUB4DOS?
[04:38] <triplep> is there any nice *clean* way to install mythtv? the dependencys are nuts
[04:38] <dmlinux> mustard5 i gotta go eat, me starving, be back later
[04:38] <starscalling> everything is working great but obsidian+
[04:38] <cius> nickrud, thanks, I'd wondered about that.  I think i might have some extra config files laying around...
[04:38] <starscalling> XD
[04:38] <nickrud> Not really relevant, unless you have manually changed something in /etc
[04:38] <nalioth> helpme: ubuntu is based on debian. debian uses apt-get to seamlessly upgrade your box
[04:38] <sn9> SuperLag: what is the yaboot error you get?
[04:38] <Ekibyougami> helpme, if you can get ahold of a breezy disk you can add the cd to the repositories and update that way
[04:38] <nemik> have any of you tried a say 8 or 16 port USB hub on your boxes? was it ok?
[04:39] <nicedreams> sn9: this is my line for my dvd/cdrom drive from fstab        /dev/hdd      /media/cdrom0      udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto   0     0
[04:39] <ritgerj> what do I need to do to enable bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[04:39] <foampeace> Hi  i asked before how to bring eth0 up at boot. Someone said to put somethingi nt he modules file so i did, but that doesnt seem to do a ifconfig eth0 up which what i want it to do first before it loads the adsl pppoe stuff. Anyone?
[04:39] <ian> mustard5 Do you live in this channel...?
[04:39] <nemik> ritgerj: a miracle :D
[04:39] <ritgerj> not supported?
[04:39] <ian> mustard5 You are always here...
[04:39] <nicedreams> foampeace: you need    auto eth0   in your /etc/network/interfaces   file
[04:39] <sn9> nicedreams: you put in a dvd and launched xine, and got an error?
[04:39] <Ekibyougami> foam, you can set all of the ifconfig commends in the etc/network/modules
[04:40] <nvy> hi all is there a way to merge ubuntu and kubuntu so we can do like slackware on x-boot you can choose kde or gnome ?
[04:40] <nemik> no, my friend just had trouble but i think it should be better now in breezy
[04:40] <Ekibyougami> you just add the strings under eth0 in the modules file
[04:40] <helpme> Ekibyougami: and i wont lose my stuff right?
[04:40] <Ekibyougami> shouldnt helpme
[04:40] <foampeace> Ekibyougami: hows that?
[04:40] <Ekibyougami> i have updated debian that way before
[04:40] <sn9> foampeace: i don't think that's possible
[04:40] <foampeace> nicedreams: i have the auto eth0 also
[04:40] <KArhuton> nvy, you can choose the desktop from gdm
[04:40] <Ekibyougami> one sec foam, i'll try to grab a howto
[04:40] <nicedreams> sn9: I put in a dvd and typed      'xine -pfhq -V xv --auto-scan dvd'    to try it out before I try it with mythtv
[04:40] <nickrud> nvy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu
[04:41] <ritgerj> I also have a nvidia 6600 graphics card and I am wondering what drivers I should install for it and where to get it
[04:41] <nalioth> helpme: you get all that? sorry i'm busy in the meat world
[04:41] <foampeace> sn9: what isnt possible?
[04:41] <nvy> KArhuton, well gnome is not on the cd
[04:41] <geraldo> hi is there anyone in here???
[04:41] <nathanael> If you could have anything you wanted in an OS, what wouold it be or do or look like? Email me and let me know: nathanaelblevins@mac.com A list is being compiled of what the PEOPLE want. Thanks!
[04:41] <nickrud> choose from the sessions menu in your login screen
[04:41] <mustard5> ian, lurking for the most part while browsing and chatting ;)
[04:41] <sn9> nicedreams: what about just xine dvd://
[04:41] <geraldo> im new to Ubuntu can anyone help
[04:41] <mustard5> ian, irc keeps my dialup connection alive too ;)
[04:41] <jaramillo> sure
[04:41] <nalioth> geraldo: if you ask a question
[04:41] <cafuego_> Thank you for not spamming.
[04:41] <martincito> hello
[04:41] <nemik> have any of you tried a say 8 or 16 port USB hub on your boxes? was it ok?
[04:41] <nickrud> nvy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu kubuntu-desktop  xubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <sn9> foampeace: pppoe on boot
[04:41] <nickrud> I ment
[04:41] <geraldo> umm yea im trying to install real player for Linux and i just dont know how to do anything
[04:42] <nalioth> nickrud: ubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <nickrud> gack
[04:42] <nvy> nickrud, from the ubuntu cd ?
[04:42] <cius> Is there any reason to include "source" repos in my sources.list if I don't ever want the sources?
[04:42] <nickrud> nalioth, thanks
[04:42] <josep> hi, what kernel image should I install if I run a Sempron?
[04:42] <martincito> hola como estan
[04:42] <nemik> geraldo: apt-get install realplayer
[04:42] <nicedreams> sn9: when I type that I now get     xine engine error  There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd://'  Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exist.
[04:42] <geraldo> no, i downloaded it from the site to the desktop
[04:42] <cafuego_> josep: -k7
[04:43] <ritgerj> anybody know what drivers to install with a nvidia 6600 graphics card and how to install them since i am new to linux
[04:43] <josep> ty
[04:43] <KArhuton> Can someone with Breezy and ATI fglrx 8.18.6 (latest), report opengl acceleration working?
[04:43] <sn9> geraldo: afaict, realplayer doesn't work. period
[04:43] <cafuego_> josep: At least, that's my guess.
[04:43] <nickrud> nvy, no, you will need internet access, and reasonably fast access, or a dedicated dialup
[04:43] <Ekibyougami> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/user-bering-uclibc/bucu-pppoe.html
[04:43] <Madpilot> !+nvidia
[04:43] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:43] <martincito> una nia que hable espaol
[04:43] <[FiDO] > are there video issues with the radeon 9000
[04:43] <cafuego_> josep: If they're AMD64s with the 64bit part disabled, k8 might work too.
[04:43] <Madpilot> ritgerj: see ubotu a few lines up ^^^
[04:43] <Ekibyougami> scroll down a bit and it has an example of the network/interfaces file
[04:43] <nemik> geraldo, don't do it like that, do it with apt-get but yea i couldn't get it working either, but in hoary, does realplayer work in breezy?
[04:43] <foampeace> sn9: ya i wonder. I think it has to do witht he sequence of
[04:43] <[FiDO] > I can't even get the gui to load
[04:43] <geraldo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:43] <geraldo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:43] <nalioth> geraldo: use sudo
[04:43] <nicedreams> sn9: I get the same error when trying to play a dvd through the GUI
[04:43] <nemik> geraldo, sorry: sudo apt-get install realplaer
[04:43] <Madpilot> geraldo: "sudo apt-get install realplayer" should work
[04:44] <nalioth> geraldo: do you have all your repositories enabled?
[04:44] <sybariten> i have a question about shares. i have made a windows share from ubuntu machine A, and am trying to reach it from machine B
[04:44] <BreezyInCalif> I have a modprobe question: I want to "modprobe fuse" on each boot, and also to Not Screw Up :) How would I accomplish all that - or at least the first part ?
[04:44] <nvy> i do sudo apt-get install ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu from the ubuntu cd or i need to also download kubuntu?
[04:44] <KArhuton> josep, sempron is a athlon xp core. not amd64. So you want k7
[04:44] <Hobbsee> sybariten: yes, by using samba
[04:44] <Ekibyougami> this one also may help foampeace http://ca.huji.ac.il/services/internet/connect/adsl/pppoe_linux.shtml
[04:44] <sybariten> i can browse it in nautilus or whatever it is ... but is there a path i could use in the terminal ??
[04:44] <sn9> BreezyInCalif: /etc/modules
[04:44] <nalioth> nvy: you'll need to be online to install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <sybariten> hobbsee: yes, the question wasnt finished
[04:44] <Hobbsee> sybariten: cd to the directory
[04:44] <Ekibyougami> sybariten, type naut and hit tab in the terminal
[04:44] <Madpilot> nvy: apt-get will get it from the repositories
[04:44] <Hobbsee> sybariten: i realise that :p
[04:44] <sybariten> Hobbsee: dont know the path
[04:45] <nvy> Madpilot and if i wanna add it to the iso ?
[04:45] <geraldo> doesnt work...
[04:45] <Madpilot> nvy: no idea, sorry
[04:45] <nickrud> nvy, you cannot ...
[04:45] <nemik> geraldo, you have breezy or hoary?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> sybariten: the path in nautilus?  it's generally under /media at least in kubuntu
[04:45] <nvy> what the url of the main page of xubuntu ?
[04:46] <BreezyInCalif> sn9 - hmmmm /etc/modules is a file, neh? add a line to it? does it matter where in modules I add this?
[04:46] <geraldo> umm is it a problem if i dont know lol, i just installed it today... Ubuntu 5.04
[04:46] <Ekibyougami> brb, switching rooms and such
[04:46] <Madpilot> nvy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:46] <sn9> BreezyInCalif: yes it does
[04:46] <BreezyInCalif> (I'm nearly certain this is stuff I should know, but I don't know it ... )
[04:46] <[FiDO] > breezy seems to have some video issues with the default settings I can't get the gui to load
[04:46] <nvy> Madpilot thanks
[04:46] <nickrud> nvy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:46] <sn9> BreezyInCalif: lines are read in order
[04:46] <[FiDO] > it says display server restarted 6 times in 90 seconds
[04:46] <nemik> geraldo, 5.04 is hoary, try 5.10 which is breezy
[04:46] <nvy> no xubuntu download there! :/
[04:46] <nickrud> late, again
[04:47] <geraldo> how do i get that?
[04:47] <nemik> geraldo, download the 5.10 install from the ubuntu website and install it
[04:47] <nicedreams> sn9: any other idea?
[04:47] <nickrud> nvy, just sudo apt-get install xubunt-desktop. That will always work, the wiki page is a work in progress
[04:47] <geraldo> then everything that i will try to install will work??
[04:47] <sn9> nicedreams: does mplayer work?
[04:47] <nickrud> gack again, xubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <TiMiDo> !tell sn9 about mplayer
[04:47] <louix> how do i install artwiz fonts for ubuntu??
[04:47] <sybariten> Hobbsee: actually, my /media dir was empty
[04:48] <josep> btw, has anyone fixed the DSTD in a acer aspire 3003WLmi laptop?
[04:48] <nemik> geraldo, not guaranteed but it should be better i think, breezy is a newer version
[04:48] <sn9> TiMiDo: what was that for?
[04:48] <Davey> Is it the lack of compositing that causes my windows to go black when I alt+tab?
[04:48] <TiMiDo> louix mkdir .fonts and then mv them to the directory
[04:48] <louix> thanx TiMiDo
[04:48] <geraldo> i hope i can resolve all of these problems because i dont want to go back to windows
[04:48] <Davey> (ati card)
[04:48] <nicedreams> sn9: what do i type to try it in mplayer.  i have mplayer-k6 installed
[04:48] <TiMiDo> louix np
[04:48] <BreezyInCalif> sn9 - well, what I want to do is modprobe fuse - adding the capability to mount a filesystem in user space - I imagine it's possible to do this too early in the boot process, but how about at the end of modules?
[04:48] <nemik> geraldo, i haven't tried realplayer yet on 5.10, just on 5.04 and it didn't work either
[04:48] <kronus> is there a utility to display system data, like OS version and hardware specs?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> sybariten: where do you find your windows share in nautilus?  ah yes, i'm looking at the wrong thing
[04:48] <kronus> command line
[04:48] <sn9> BreezyInCalif: try
[04:48] <[FiDO] > what is the deal with breezy and ati cards
[04:49] <louix> TiMiDo:  do you have problems with blackbox like i do?
[04:49] <|pit> hello world
[04:49] <BreezyInCalif> sn9 - will :)
[04:49] <BreezyInCalif> And thanks! :)
[04:49] <[FiDO] > i can't even get the gui to load
[04:49] <sybariten> Hobbsee: hm, yeah ....
[04:49] <|pit> can you remove the partition table when you boot from the cd?
[04:49] <nicedreams> sn9: i tried from gmplayer and says      Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd
[04:49] <louix> TiMiDo: certain styles do not work on ubuntu on blackbox??!
[04:49] <geraldo>  how long will it take to download 5.10
[04:49] <Hobbsee> sybariten: one second...
[04:49] <|pit> i kinda killed mine
[04:49] <Hobbsee> !faq
[04:49] <sybariten> it _has_ to be mounted in some way, as i can actually browse the dirs and open the files, right ?
[04:49] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:49] <josep> kronus - lspci, cat /proc/cpu, uname -a, etc etc
[04:49] <BreezyInCalif> sn9 - I get an error message - "Do or Do Not - There Is No Try - Error y-0DA" What's that, do ya think?
[04:49] <sn9> nicedreams: what permissions are on /dev/hdd?
[04:49] <nemik> geraldo, it is ~600 mb so however long that is on your internet connection
[04:50] <geraldo> lol
[04:50] <Davey> brb
[04:50] <geraldo> wow... yea im downloading it now...
[04:50] <newbie_at_linux> Which alsa packages do I need for my mic to work?
[04:50] <[FiDO] > holy crap would someone answer my questions please I've asked like 10 times
[04:50] <geraldo> hey have u guys managed to get CSS playing on 5.10??
[04:50] <nemik> the torrent would be faster
[04:50] <nvy> Humm so there is no xbuntu iso :(
[04:50] <zdennis> [FiDO] , whats your question?
[04:50] <nemik> what's wrong fido? and if it is so important, canonical has good ubuntu support ;)
[04:50] <zenlunatic> how do i upgrade to the next version after breezy, just dist-upgrade? or do i have to mess with repositories?
[04:50] <BreezyInCalif> [FiDO]  - I have an antique ATI card and no problems; what *specific* issue are you seeing and with which card?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> sybariten: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch07.html - you might find some of that useful
[04:51] <Madpilot> nvy: not yet; they're talking about there being one soonish...
[04:51] <|pit> how do i go about deleting my partition table? I can't re-install ubuntu and the version i have installed won't boot?
[04:51] <[FiDO] > I'm using a Radeon 9000 worked fine with hoary
[04:51] <nvy> ok
[04:51] <nicedreams> sn9: you know what?  I loged in as the first user I created on the install which is 'ken' and it works.  I was trying from being logged in as user 'mythtv'.  How can I get it to work for my mythtv user?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> !tell zenlunatic about upgrade2breezy
[04:51] <[FiDO] > I did a fresh install with breezy
[04:51] <geraldo> has anyone gotten Counter-Strike Source to load on 5.10??
[04:51] <bliggy> Hello... if anyone could take a moment to look at my thread in the help forums... any help would be greatly appreciated: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[04:51] <zenlunatic> Hobbsee, no i want to upgrade to after breezy version
[04:51] <[FiDO] > and it says the display server restarted 6 times in 90 seconds and the gui flashes on and off
[04:51] <nalioth> zenlunatic: just change "breezy" to "dapper" and dist-upgrade
[04:51] <sn9> [FiDO] : did you install the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?
[04:52] <[FiDO] > no
[04:52] <sn9> [FiDO] : then it can't work
[04:52] <[FiDO] > I just did the base install I assumed it would at least display the gui
[04:52] <KArhuton> I use latest fglrx and configured it (properly) with fglrxconfig. All logs seem to say DRI, AGP and such loaded nicely and everything should work. But for some reason glxinfo shows mesa for glx. Using Breezy
[04:52] <geraldo> no one plays CS Source on 5.10??
[04:52] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2dapper
[04:52] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Are you smoking crack?
[04:52] <Davey> anyone else using the ati drivers in Breezy?
[04:52] <Davey> (not fglrx)
[04:52] <zdennis> bliggy, you probably need to configure X.org to use your voodoo3 card
[04:53] <nicedreams> sn9: I figured it out.  I had to put the 'mythtv' user in the cdrom group and now it works
[04:53] <sn9> Davey: actually, i am, on an M3
[04:53] <nicedreams> sn9: thx for the help for getting me to figure it out
[04:53] <[FiDO] > so what I need to do is install the linux-restricted-modules and it should work
[04:53] <bliggy> zdennis is that done from a command prompt I guess?
[04:53] <Hobbsee> zenlunatic: not sure that it's open yet, but it's almost the same as dist-upgrading to breezy
[04:53] <Davey> sn9, you find your windows go black when you press alt+tab?
[04:53] <zdennis> yes, that is how i do it
[04:53] <imajuchi> hi everyone im trying to compile a program  but im getting this error can someone please help me checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:53] <Yock> Breezy is supposed to have OCFS2 support, but I don't see it in the partitioner in the installer.
[04:53] <das> if i use the command dpkg -i filename.deb, that should take care of everything?
[04:54] <seife> Hi, somebody help me, i have sound on the speakers but not on the headphones, i change the dispositive on volumecontrol and i still hear sound in the speakers and nothing on the headphones....
[04:54] <geraldo> does anyone have the torrent tile for breezy??
[04:54] <sn9> [FiDO] : first install the optimal kernel for your system, then install the modules for that kernel
[04:54] <nemik> geraldo, no one here seems to know about CSS, try asking in the forun
[04:54] <seife> I wonder why i have sound of a .wmv video, but i dont see any image.
[04:54] <geraldo> ehh thanks...
[04:54] <nalioth> imajuchi: install xlibs-dev, xlib-static-dev and one more i'll find in a minute
[04:54] <niterider> hello
[04:54] <nemik> i don't play it either so i don't know
[04:54] <ritgerj> does anyone know where i can find info on blue tooth mice and keyboard installs
[04:54] <imajuchi> thanks nalioth
[04:54] <darknuala> hey has anybody here got gimpshop to install successfully?
[04:54] <nemik> ritgerj, does it not work automatically?
[04:54] <sn9> seife: could be no w32codecs
[04:55] <ritgerj> no not autodetected
[04:55] <nalioth> imajuchi: also x-window-system-dev
[04:55] <concept10> What application sucessfully plays Quicktime streams (maybe this h.264 format) ????
[04:55] <niterider> I just installed Ubuntu Breezy and I've got a couple questions if I may
[04:55] <seife> i put sudo aptitude install w32codecs on terminal and it says that didnt find any w32codecs packet ;/
[04:55] <seife> something like that
[04:55] <imajuchi> thanks again ;)
[04:55] <bliggy> zdennis... thanks ... i'll try
[04:55] <ritgerj> nemik no it worked during install, but not while it is running
[04:55] <sn9> seife: for breezy, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[04:55] <das> seife, then your deb sources arent providing that package
[04:56] <niterider> I havw a Geforce MX400 vid card, do I need to go to Nvidia for the driver
[04:56] <Cashel> seife, I believe xine.org has links to sites that have them....
[04:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell seife about w32deb
[04:56] <darknuala> seife, breezy doesn't have the w32codecs anymore
[04:56] <das> yea, just go do what sn9 said
[04:56] <das> go to
[04:56] <zdennis> bliggy, the config file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:56] <seife> oh
[04:56] <nalioth> sn9: we have a trigger in the bot for what you just sent
[04:56] <zenlunatic> anyone have a clearlooks-cairo package?
[04:57] <sn9> nalioth: is it javadeb?
[04:57] <bliggy> ok zdennis.... i'll take a look
[04:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:57] <imajuchi> ive installed so many things trying to figuring that out thank nalioth
[04:57] <nalioth> sn9: no it's w32deb
[04:57] <niterider> anyone?
[04:57] <zdennis> bliggy, make a backup of it before you edit anything. What you'll want to look for is the Section "Device" you will probably want to check the driver here and the PCI BusID
[04:57] <ezerhoden> !seen ^thehatsrule^
[04:57] <ubotu> ezerhoden: i haven't seen '^thehatsrule^'
[04:57] <ritgerj> any other help with blue tooth keyboard and mouse?
[04:58] <imajuchi> i hope thats all i need
[04:58] <nalioth> niterider: what kind of question is "anyone?"
[04:58] <bliggy> ok
[04:58] <zdennis> bliggy, can you check real quick what the BusId is set to?
[04:58] <SuperLag> cafuego_: Okay. Let's try this again.
[04:58] <sn9> nalioth: it's easier to copy and paste from an open browser than to remember the trigger
[04:58] <geraldo> can u guys play MP3 files ??
[04:58] <zdennis> bliggy, "PCI:0:10:0" is the default setting for the AGP slot on your system
[04:58] <niterider> i asked, I had said, I've just installed Breezy here, I've got a Geforce MX-400, do I have to get the driver from NVIDIA?
[04:58] <bliggy> zdennis i cant... I'm on a different OS now seeign as hwo I cant get gnome to start during the installation
[04:58] <SuperLag> cafuego_: did you do a basic install with pretty much all the default options?
[04:58] <ezerhoden> niterider: no you do not HAVE to
[04:58] <zdennis> bliggy, Windows or another Linux distro?
[04:58] <sn9> niterider: no, you get it as a package
[04:58] <SuperLag> nalioth: do you dual boot your PPC box?
[04:58] <nalioth> sn9: the trigger "w32deb" has info for hoary and breezy users
[04:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> whenever i log off, i can't get back into gdm.  my monitor goes to sleep.  anyone??
[04:59] <nalioth> SuperLag: yes i do
[04:59] <EnsignRedshirt> How can I tell firefox to *not* bring up an Open dialog when I click on a link that has a .c extension?  I want it to just display the text in the browser.
[04:59] <imajuchi> nalioth, can you compile in breezy now is asking for Qt 3.3
[04:59] <seife> why i cant download shockwave and flash plugin on firefox? i need em, what can i do
[04:59] <SuperLag> nalioth: what kind of machine are you running it on?
[04:59] <niterider> k, so i can just change the NV in xorg to nvidia and also add nvidia glx package?
[04:59] <bliggy> zdennis... i'm on mandriva 2006 at the moment... part of my distro shopping spree
[04:59] <ritgerj> anybody know of a good page with a how to on configuring my wifi card, it is a linksys
[04:59] <nalioth> imajuchi: it wants -dev files
[04:59] <nalioth> SuperLag: 2 ibooks and a powermac g5 dual
[05:00] <geraldo> can u guys give me good tips on installing things like the latest nVIDIA drivers and music/dvd players cause im just a complete noob right now
[05:00] <imajuchi> sorry, what do you mean. installed everything you told me
[05:00] <zdennis> bliggy, you should be able to mount the other partition that Ubuntu is installed on from within Mandriva, do you know how-to do that?
[05:00] <nalioth> imajuchi: if its asking for qt stuff, you need bleh-qt-bleh-dev
[05:00] <Madpilot> geraldo: start at http://wiki.ubutnu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:00] <SuperLag> nalioth: 1 iBook G3 900, 1 Powerbook G4 1.5GHz, and a Mac Mini 1.25GHz here
[05:00] <bliggy> sorry for not explaingin correctly... its not installed anymore... but I'm hellbent on making it work
[05:00] <ritgerj> nemik what did u say about bluetooth?
[05:00] <sampan> !tell me about restricted
[05:00] <quam> geraldo but make that wiki.ubuntu.com instead of ubutnu :P
[05:00] <bliggy> i hear its the best
[05:01] <ritgerj> do you know if it is possible to install it
[05:01] <Madpilot> geraldo: sorry for the typo... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:01] <geraldo> lol k
[05:01] <nalioth> SuperLag: this is not a contest, you asked what i dual booted on
[05:01] <zdennis> bliggy, ah.
[05:01] <SuperLag> sheesh, I know
[05:01] <niterider> last question...i've got a jotstick a logitech wingman force feedback, how to i set it up in ubuntu/gnome
[05:01] <nalioth> cafuego_: got a minute?
[05:01] <niterider> *joystick
[05:01] <SuperLag> nalioth: how did you go about setting up your partitions on your dual-boot box?
[05:01] <geraldo> its cool
[05:02] <sn9> ritgerj: bluetooth is doable
[05:02] <geraldo> but hey do u know how i can locate my other partition cause i had another one with files saved from my windows and i wanna see if i can get the files back
[05:02] <nalioth> SuperLag: 1mb new world bootstrap, 768mb swap file and ~7gb ext3
[05:02] <nalioth> SuperLag: and the hfs+ partition, of course
[05:02] <ritgerj> sn9 how do install it and get it to pick up my mouse and keyboard
[05:02] <Cashel> So having been updating from the repositories since whatever prerelease was current 2 months ago, am I missing out on anything versus the new release on the 13th? Because I see zero difference except for version #'s :)
[05:02] <bliggy> zdennis... so the proper command would be xorgconfig ?
[05:02] <Cashel> zero diff from Hoary I mean...
[05:02] <SuperLag> nalioth: does the bootstrap partition have to have a specific name for yaboot to install properly?
[05:02] <nalioth> Cashel: you are fully up to date
[05:02] <sn9> ritgerj: i believe that's in the wiki
[05:03] <ritgerj> ok
[05:03] <Cashel> ahh... joyus...
[05:03] <ritgerj> i will look
[05:03] <ritgerj> thanks sn9
[05:03] <seife> why i cant download shockwave and flash plugin on firefox? i need em, what can i do
[05:03] <BreezyInCalif> Good night for now, all
[05:03] <zdennis> bliggy i think so. I have apretty ahrd core setup (multiple video cards and multiple monitors) so I do my configurations from hand
[05:03] <sn9> seife: install the pkg flashplugin-nonfree
[05:03] <nalioth> SuperLag: i cleared 8gb for my ubuntu and used the installer to partition it. i used "new world bootstrap" or something like that (it's one of the options in the manual partitioner
[05:03] <Hobbsee> seife: macromedia doesnt make shockwave for linux
[05:04] <SuperLag> nalioth: I've got the partition created, and the boot flag set.  But it's still untitled.
[05:04] <zdennis> bliggy, my guess is that the default installation was attempting to use your built-in video card
[05:04] <bliggy> zdennis ah ok... so theres no way to set the vid up right during the installation?
[05:04] <darren> What repository are w32codecs on?
[05:04] <Ekibyougami> !w32codecs
[05:04] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[05:04] <nomad111> can any1 tell me how to configure grub
[05:04] <seife> sn9, this says that it couldnt find flashplugin-nonfree
[05:04] <nomad111> like where to go
[05:04] <nalioth> SuperLag: is it type "apple bootstrap" or "new world boot" or whatever
[05:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darren about w32deb
[05:05] <sn9> seife: do you have all the repositories?
[05:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> whenever i log off, i can't get back into gdm.  my monitor goes to sleep.  anyone??
[05:05] <Cashel> nomad111, man grub, then take a look at /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:05] <nomad111> lol
[05:05] <nomad111> there is a way thru the systens nebu
[05:05] <Cashel> errr menu.lst :P
[05:05] <nomad111> menu*
[05:05] <SuperLag> nalioth: right, I've got that, but there's a field for the title as well.  I know for Linux, you have to have swap titled "swap" so I didn't know if there was a specific title requirement for the bootblock, or not.
[05:05] <seife> sn9, i think yes ;/
[05:05] <Hobbsee> nomad111: nautilus, and go thru there
[05:05] <darren> nalioth, so you can't download them from a repository anymore?
[05:05] <nalioth> SuperLag: the title is unnecessary
[05:05] <ranjeeth> when i install power managet shows following error ------------> You have not got dpms support enabled in gnome screen --------- how to resolve
[05:05] <seife> Dunno why i cant get all the updates
[05:05] <zdennis> bliggy, i'm the wrong person to answer that.
[05:06] <sn9> seife: then you shoould have the pkg available
[05:06] <seife> I get a real weird error ;/
[05:06] <zdennis> it's been a while since i've seen the installer
[05:06] <nalioth> darren: they are illegal to provide officially
[05:06] <Cashel> ohhh yes... I suppose if one is a gui addict I'm the wrong guy to be answering...
[05:06] <nomad111> Hobbsee, where is nautilus lol this is my first time
[05:06] <seife> when im going to update i get a error
[05:06] <nomad111> using the revolution
[05:06] <zdennis> bliggy, you can configure your video card without the installer
[05:06] <Hobbsee> !tell nomad111 about nautilus
[05:06] <bliggy> zdennis... thansk anyway man... i totally appreciate your help
[05:06] <sn9> seife: what error?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> nomad111: it's the file browser
[05:06] <zdennis> bliggy, i always use the installer to get my base system up. Then I customize it to my liking from the command line, then I boot into X
[05:06] <Cashel> !tell cashel about nautilus
[05:07] <bliggy> zdennis... i'm still very much a newb so that may not be so easy for me... but I'll give it a whirl
[05:07] <zdennis> bliggy, good luck with it! If you're around tomorrow and still are having issues, I'll go through an installation with you. I have a laptop I need to get up and going with Ubuntu.
[05:07] <ritgerj> sn9 how do i know what packages I need and dependencies
[05:07] <bliggy> zdennis... much apprecaited sir
[05:07] <ritgerj> for bluetooth
[05:07] <Sh|fty> :o
[05:07] <seife> sn9, read private a bit
[05:07] <zdennis> bliggy, if you see me around just hollar at me
[05:07] <Sh|fty> ssh is been slow :(
[05:07] <bliggy> zdennis... will do... thasnka  ton man
[05:07] <Cashel> ubotu i dunno what is 'nautilus'.
[05:07] <ubotu> Cashel: what are you talking about?
[05:08] <sn9> seife: that's because there is no backports repo for breezy yet
[05:08] <ritgerj> sn9 for bluetooth
[05:08] <Davey> sn9, I'm sorry, I didn't see a response, did you see my question?
[05:08] <ranjeeth> how to enable DPMS IN GNOME
[05:08] <Cashel> dabaR, yes, I know....
[05:08] <starscalling>  http://rapidshare.de/files/6338252/boxpiratepack.tar.gz.html  <<-=-= my own dam codec pack for windows :)
[05:08] <sn9> Davey: sorry, didn't see a question
[05:09] <dabaR> Cashel: nautilus is your file manager, the window that opens when you open your home folder.
[05:09] <Davey> sn9, when you alt+tab, does the selected window go black for you?
[05:09] <dabaR> Directory, sorry.
[05:09] <Cashel> ohhhh that pos... gotcha...
[05:09] <Davey> sn9, I don't know if its because of Xinerama, or what  :/
[05:09] <seife> sn9, so what i have to do now, please help me i would like to get the packages or at least be available to get.
[05:09] <sn9> Davey: no, i get the list of windows
[05:09] <sampan> am i doing something wrong if i can't sudo apt-get the corefonts ?
[05:10] <dabaR> Hi, guys. What is the status of the backports project in breezy, and what are the plans? I can see on the wiki page there are hoary backports sources.list entry, but no Breezy. Is it just because no backports are made yet?
[05:10] <sampan> errr + install
[05:10] <Davey> sn9, Right, but the window selected into the popup, is it black?
[05:10] <seife> sn9, read priv again quick
[05:10] <Hobbsee> sampan: you're trying sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[05:10] <nalioth> dabaR: there is no dapper yet, so nothing to backport from
[05:10] <sampan> yes hobbsee
[05:10] <nomad111> i remember there was a place in system/administration/boot or something like that
[05:10] <sampan> for breezy
[05:10] <nalioth> dabaR: patience
[05:10] <sn9> ranjeeth: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:10] <Hobbsee> sampan: what's the error?  package doesnt exist?
[05:10] <sampan> yeah
[05:11] <Crane> hello
[05:11] <sampan> "it is referred to by another package, so maybe it's obsoleted or ...."
[05:11] <sn9> Davey: no, it's not
[05:11] <SuperLag> @$#@#$@#$@#
[05:11] <triplep> is anyone running mythtv on amd64 breezy ?
[05:11] <Hobbsee> sampan: see PM that i sent you
[05:11] <dabaR> nalioth: OK, thanks, ya, for sure, I have patience and generally do not use backports, I was just wondering whether there was a change in the way it is handled.
[05:11] <Crane> how is everyone tonight
[05:11] <sn9> seife: that you can probably ignore
[05:12] <nalioth> sampan: download them from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <Davey> sn9, hrm, can I get your config?
[05:12] <SuperLag> "The FATs don't match.  If you don't know what this means, then select cancel, run scandisk on the filesystem, and then come back. ERROR!!"
[05:12] <Hobbsee> sampan: you can get the deb from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_1.2_all.deb and install it manually
[05:12] <nalioth> SuperLag: fats?
[05:12] <sn9> Davey: my X config?
[05:12] <seife> sn9, what u mean? u ignored me?
[05:12] <dr_willis> SuperLag,  thats a rather concise message at least.
[05:12] <sn9> seife: no, the error
[05:12] <Davey> sn9, please
[05:12] <whaley> question about bootloading: i run gentoo and use grub.... i installed ubuntu to a separate partition (hda8).  In my grub config i simply added title=Ubunutu root=(hd0,7) like the instructions of the ubuntu install suggested... however, nothing happens when i use this entry when grub boots... did I miss something?
[05:12] <richard_> How does one change the permission on a file that is protected by root? I'm trying to install some software. I converted some rpm files using alien to deb files. Tried to get kpackage to install them but keep on asking for 'root' password. So I opened up kuser and tried to give myself root permission but cannot write to the etc/group files . They must be write permission protected and I'm now sure how to change them.
[05:13] <seife> how do i fix that error sn9
[05:13] <sn9> Davey: i'm not running xinerama
[05:14] <sn9> richard_: don't use kpackage
[05:14] <Davey> sn9, thats OK, I might be able to work things out anyway :)
[05:14] <imajuchi> nalioth wao you are an angel for me tonight it works
[05:14] <imajuchi> thanks a lot
[05:14] <imajuchi> :)
[05:14] <richard_> Is there an easier way to install deb files without using konsole?
[05:14] <nalioth> imajuchi: np
[05:14] <sn9> ranjeeth: look on intel's website
[05:15] <helpme> are there any side-effects of prelinking?
[05:15] <nalioth> richard_: use apt-get and a network repo?
[05:15] <das> richard_: in the terminal just type 'dpkg -i filename.db'
[05:15] <das> its simple enough
[05:15] <richard_> This program isn't in the deb aptget repositories.
[05:15] <nalioth> das: konsole = terminal
[05:15] <seife> sn9, how do i fix the error
[05:15] <richard_> Ok I'll try this thanks. . . .
[05:15] <sn9> seife: that error i think you can ignore
[05:15] <nalioth> richard_: then you'll need the konsole
[05:16] <das> nalioth: i know, its just the easiest way for me personally to install .deb files
[05:16] <felly> anyone having any problems with glib with gtk apps?
[05:16] <sn9> seife: type: apt-cache search flash
[05:16] <seife> sn9, ok.. now can u help me to get all the packages available to download?
[05:16] <nalioth> seife: if you ask in the channel, more folks can help you
[05:16] <dabaR> whaley: post your menu.lst entry to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl if you want to.
[05:16] <newbie_at_linux> When I am using sound recorder, I can hear what I am saying in the mic sometimes. If I am talking, and I hear it then I move the mic I can't hear me through the speakers anymore, but then when I move the mic back and talk again I can hear again.
[05:16] <richard_> I use fakeroot to sign in Konsole?
[05:17] <bigfoot1> guys, what's wrong with the stuff/icons on my main menu/drawer. Some of them work (I think the stuff I installed), but some icons/shortcuts, such as synaptic, or "add applications" don't. When i click on "add applications" for instance, the computer freezes for about 10 seconds (mouse is movable), and after the freeze, nothing happens-- no program opens up. IS this a bug?
[05:17] <sn9> seife: there should be one "nonfree"
[05:17] <whaley> dabaR: give me a moment
[05:17] <nomad111> can some1 plz tell me where to go to configure grub like a website i dunno how to use the terminal
[05:17] <das> richard_: i use 'sudo -s -H'
[05:17] <richard_> Thankyou. . . .
[05:17] <dabaR> bigfoot1: are you the only user of the computer, and is your account the administrative one?
[05:17] <dr_willis> grub has a well done homepage/documentions there.
[05:18] <das> can someone please direct me to firewall settings?
[05:18] <nalioth> das: use firestarter
[05:18] <whaley> dabaR: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3155
[05:18] <seife> where can i get support for opening, creating and editing .zip, .rar, .ace's, etc..
[05:19] <P229> das: what firewall do you use, and do you even need one/
[05:19] <P229> ?
[05:19] <cafuego> !
[05:19] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, cafuego
[05:19] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/
[05:19] <das> im using azureus and i need to make sure the port is open
[05:19] <sancho> rarlabs.com  actually has rar support for linux
[05:19] <das> i dont even know if a firewall is up lol
[05:19] <sn9> seife: you don't need to create all those, and there are different packages to open each one
[05:20] <Nany> hey.. I'll already change "hoary" to "breezy".. now who can tell me how do I upgrade?
[05:20] <cafuego> sancho: there is an 'unrar-nonfree' package.
[05:20] <nalioth> cafuego: got a minute?
[05:20] <cafuego> nalioth: Yeah.
[05:20] <sancho> nany.
[05:20] <sancho> apt-get update
[05:20] <Nany> sancho
[05:20] <sancho> 2) apt-get upgrade
[05:20] <ritgerj> sn9 do you know how to activate the bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[05:20] <nomad111> plz help me im begging right npw
[05:20] <sancho> do those 2 steps as root
[05:20] <ritgerj> sn9 I installed all of the drivers
[05:21] <dabaR> whaley: mine is there now, post 3156
[05:21] <whaley> k
[05:21] <sn9> ritgerj: haven't actually tried it myself, as i don't have any bluetooth devices
[05:21] <P229> das: I don't think ubuntu turns on a firewall by default
[05:21] <bigfoot1> dabaR: yes, i'm the only user who of this computer. As to whether my account is the adminstrative one: I'm not sure what the answer is. But let me tell you that when I want to do some stuff in terminal, such as apt-get, I have to add "sudo" to the commands. Does this answer your question?
[05:21] <nomad111> how do i change grub settings without using the terminal
[05:21] <P229> das: so you're probably ok
[05:21] <ritgerj> sn9 ok thanks
[05:21] <nomad111> in the preview version i could go to system/administration/boot
[05:21] <das> p229: ah ok, but these 2 torrents arent moving at all
[05:22] <ritgerj> sn9 do you know what this means:
[05:22] <ritgerj> Verify that your bluetooth device has been detected, and the appropriate modules loaded by viewing the lsusb (in case of usb device) output.
[05:22] <greenwom> any one have an answer to this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=415474#post415474
[05:22] <mcadory> i need to unpin packages pinned before upgrading from hoary to breezy.  won't unpin thru synaptic.  anyone have a place i can start?
[05:22] <whaley> dabaR: I'll try to find out where the kernel and initrd is... ill try to mount that partition here in gentoo real quick
[05:22] <whaley> thanks for your help
[05:22] <P229> das: are you behind a hardware router/firewall?
[05:22] <sancho> if you don't want to sudo just do a "sudo passwd root"
[05:22] <cafuego> !forums 415474
[05:22] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 415474 is: Xine Crashes - Ubuntu Forums
[05:22] <P229> das: and what are the torrents? perhaps there are no good seeds
[05:22] <bigfoot1> dabaR: before i upgraded to breezy from hoary, i didn't have this problem. In my hoary days, when i clicked on, say, Synaptic, a dialog window would pop up asking for  adminstrative/root password. But now with my breezy, no dialog at all.
[05:23] <ezrider_away> sn9 : i have apt-get the new kernel, what do I have to do now ? i think it's just unpacked
[05:23] <dabaR> welcome, whaley. now, can you answer my questions about gentoo in pm?
[05:23] <das> p229, perhaps, im going to try some popular torrents
[05:23] <sn9> mcadory: man apt_preferences
[05:23] <mcadory> thanks sn9
[05:23] <ritgerj> sn9 do you know what Verify that your bluetooth device has been detected, and the appropriate modules loaded by viewing the lsusb (in case of usb device) output.   means?
[05:23] <Nany> sancho.. I have to do this .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:23] <nomad111> this is frustrating
[05:23] <imajuchi> hi bigfootq, make sure you dont have disk privilage
[05:23] <dabaR> whaley: just some basic things.
[05:23] <nomad111> i cant work anything
[05:24] <nomad111> how am i meant to work with ubuntu
[05:24] <sn9> ezrider_away: the kernel, and the linux-restricted-modules for it
[05:24] <nomad111> i thought it was user friendly
[05:24] <nomad111> thats why i got it
[05:24] <Cashel> greenwom, not to be a wet noodle, but have you uninstalled *all* copies of xine then reinstalled... it's obvious its not happy w/ multiple installations....
[05:24] <imajuchi> it happens to me the same thing when i added myself to disk group
[05:24] <ezrider_away> sn9 : i did "sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp linux-restriced-modules-686-smp
[05:24] <dabaR> "I thought this was America " - Stan's Dad South Park, nomad111 .
[05:24] <sancho> yes
[05:25] <sn9> ritgerj: just what it says
[05:25] <ezrider_away> sn9 : minus the quoting marks
[05:25] <nomad111> dabaR, just tell me how to set up grub
[05:25] <mustard5> nomad111, after you have learnt linux, like you haven't already learnt windows, you will feel better
[05:25] <ritgerj> sn9 I am a newbie and have no idea what it is asking me to do
[05:25] <dabaR> nomad111: how would you like it set up?
[05:25] <nomad111> i didnt learn windows
[05:25] <mustard5> *have sorry
[05:25] <sn9> ezrider_away: after it finishes, reboot
[05:25] <greenwom> Cashel:  I tried to uninstall via snaptic but no luck
[05:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i see a regular path in the file chooser/nautilus instead of seeing buttons?
[05:25] <ezrider_away> sn9 : ok brb
[05:25] <nomad111> dabaR, i want to set windows to my default boot
[05:25] <ton> what is the difference bwtween suse with ubuntu ?
[05:26] <sn9> ritgerj: type "lsusb" and see if it shows a keybd and mouse
[05:26] <ritgerj> k
[05:26] <Cashel> greenwom, as root, try apt-get remove xine
[05:26] <mustard5> Did Bill Gates imprint windows on your from birth, nomad111 ? ;)
[05:26] <TiMiDo> is called gxine
[05:26] <Cashel> or yeah.. sudo apt-get remove xine ....
[05:26] <TiMiDo> !info gxine
[05:26] <ubotu> gxine: (the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[05:26] <nomad111> mustard5, plz lets not debate the matter
[05:26] <greenwom> Cashel: I'll try it.... brb
[05:26] <dabaR> nomad111: ok, I think I can tell you how to do that. So you just want windows to boot by default instead of ubuntu? if so, please in a terminal type cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste the ouptut of that to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl then I will tell you what next.
[05:26] <_native_> !seen procrastination_nation
[05:26] <ubotu> _native_: i haven't seen 'procrastination_nation'
[05:27] <nomad111> mustard5, if u wanna make a difference u shuld help ppl get used to ubuntu rather than attack windows
[05:27] <bud|tarrant> what do you guys think of ubuntu live?
[05:27] <sn9> _native_: that nick is too long anyway
[05:27] <mustard5> I'm not attacking windows...I'm questioning your assertion that you never 'learnt' windows
[05:27] <_native_> what do you mean
[05:27] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: very cool thing for places where you are not allowed to install ubuntu.
[05:27] <synackuator> whats the extension with ps to list by page?
[05:27] <bud|tarrant> dabar, is it fully functional? if not, to what extent is it functional?
[05:27] <dabaR> mustard5: drop it, ok, there is no use in this conversation.
[05:28] <nalioth> synackuator: use |less or |more
[05:28] <sn9> _native_: freenode has a length limit on nicks
[05:28] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: very fully functional. I am very pleased.
[05:28] <bud|tarrant> dabaR, so I wouldn't even need to install the full version eh?
[05:28] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: lives up to the Ubuntu standard:)
[05:28] <bigfoot1> dear dabar: i answered your question, but have not heard back from you.
[05:28] <mustard5> roger dabaR sorry
[05:28] <Yetr2> sun JRE install help? use the package from their site or has ubuntu done something for themselves?
[05:28] <bud|tarrant> if you don't mind, I may as well ask.. what are the differences?(link me if possible)
[05:28] <nomad111> dabaR, i posted
[05:29] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: do you like customizing your installation? do you like having to customize every time you boot? those are two questions that make the answer to your question.
[05:29] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: eh?
[05:29] <bud|tarrant> God, if I even knew how.
[05:29] <bud|tarrant> I can't even get mandriva to boot into gui
[05:29] <das> did anyone have issues getting azureus to work properly?
[05:29] <greenwom> Cashel: I removed it as root and then installed it... it went back into both dirs
[05:29] <greenwom> xine that is
[05:29] <TiMiDo> is gxine
[05:29] <TiMiDo> not xine
[05:30] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: live is a great way to get to love ubuntu, if that is what you are after. ask here for help. you can install new applications with live and everything. one thing to consider is what amount of ram your system has.
[05:30] <TiMiDo> !info xine
[05:30] <TiMiDo> *ubotu* Package 'xine' does not exist.
[05:30] <ritgerj> sn9 they seem to be there, but I dont know how to activate them
[05:30] <ritgerj> LOL
[05:30] <bud|tarrant> 256 mb, baby ;-P
[05:30] <bud|tarrant> amd k6-2 400 mhz with 256mb ram, a 6.4 gb hd+20gb hd
[05:30] <dabaR> nomad111: just a sec, I stopped my gdm for some reason a moment ago, let me get started up.
[05:30] <bud|tarrant> I work at a pc store and grabbed a used rig with 64 mb ram, best I could get for free
[05:30] <nomad111> dabaR, take ur time
[05:31] <jayeola> is there a ubuntu business card cd? like a net-install. i want to install just the base system
[05:31] <bud|tarrant> found an old 20gig drive I had and some ram, and now it runs smooth as... something
[05:31] <Rebekka> hello all!
[05:31] <TiMiDo> hello Rebekka
[05:31] <Rebekka> i have a problem!
[05:31] <Louis-> damn old nickname
[05:32] <dabaR> overt usage of !?
[05:32] <mustard5> Rebekka, ask away
[05:32] <Louis-> so i use xchat on my ubuntu system
[05:32] <sirrush> Hey guys I got a quick question I am looking over my fstab, and notice the following for my swap :  /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:32] <Cashel> $dpkg -S gxine , gnome-app-install: /usr/share/gnome-app-install/gxine.desktop
[05:32] <Cashel>    ... yet I have xine installed...
[05:32] <mustard5> :)
[05:32] <das> did anyone have issues getting azureus to work properly?
[05:32] <dabaR> right...hehe, cool, I mean try it out, when you get bored of booting to a standard setup, you can install, and have a customized boot.
[05:32] <Louis-> and when i go to load a plugin (a sysinfo), it crashes
[05:32] <TiMiDo> Cashel sudo apt-get install gxine
[05:32] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: ^
[05:32] <ezrider_away> sn9 : that didn't do it...
[05:32] <ezrider_away> same problem
[05:32] <bud|tarrant> does ubuntu live copy an image to HD?
[05:33] <sn9> jayeola: yes you can netboot and netinstall
[05:33] <sirrush> Is that mounted correct I thought instead of "none" shouldn't it be "swap"
[05:33] <TiMiDo> budluva nope
[05:33] <TiMiDo> bud|tarrant nope
[05:33] <bud|tarrant> oh.. dang, so it'll be slow?
[05:33] <Cashel> 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded  .. gxine is a user interface it would seem...
[05:33] <TiMiDo> not really, at the beggining a bit
[05:33] <dabaR> nomad111: OK, see the default 0 in the top of your /boot/grub/menu.list file?
[05:33] <Stricklin> Anyone have the most current Breezy sources? I saw it earlier in a pastebin link.
[05:33] <sn9> ezrider_away: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to choose your correct video driver, fglrx or nvidia
[05:34] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: well, slow...It will be fine mostly, that is why I asked how much RAM you have.
[05:34] <TiMiDo> !tell Stricklin about breezy
[05:34] <nomad111> ye
[05:34] <bud|tarrant> dsl or ubuntu live: poll to the audience
[05:34] <nomad111> one sec
[05:34] <bud|tarrant> er, as in danged small linux
[05:34] <cajones> ahh
[05:34] <cajones> lol
[05:34] <Cashel> !tell casehl about breezy
[05:34] <Cashel> ahh
[05:34] <ezrider_away> sn9 : why would it work when I turn off the wireless if it's a video card problem ?
[05:34] <Cashel> dead bot :P
[05:34] <nomad111> yes i see it
[05:34] <Stricklin> heh
[05:34] <nomad111> line 12
[05:34] <Stricklin> I figgers
[05:34] <Stricklin> it
[05:34] <TiMiDo> true
[05:35] <mustard5> ubotu is back
[05:35] <Cashel> at any rate... I'm going to go read... have fun folks :)
[05:35] <ubotu> mustard5: What?
[05:35] <dabaR> pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 is the breezy sources.list. Stricklin
[05:35] <TiMiDo> !tell Stricklin about breezy
[05:35] <sn9> ezrider_away: oh, it finished booting? i thought it wouldn't yet
[05:35] <ezrider_away> sn9 : yes it booted, it doesnt work... the screen is down
[05:35] <sirrush> TiMiDo could ya give me a quick hand with something buddy?
[05:35] <Stricklin> thank you both
[05:35] <ezrider_away> sn9 : and i know everything'll be fine if i turn off the wireless and reboot
[05:35] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: the diff between ubuntu-live, and dsl is so huge that teh comparison has to take into consideration what your needs are.
[05:36] <sn9> ezrider_away: if the screen is down, it's not so easy to fully test the wireless
[05:36] <bud|tarrant> if you don't mind... uh.. explain. what do I get and what do I lose?
[05:36] <ezrider_away> sn9 : but I can't configure it when it's not turned on while booting
[05:36] <ramza3> I just installed, where is gcc?
[05:36] <ezrider_away> sn9 : i got the wireless to work
[05:36] <ezrider_away> sn9 : but when i reboot after the first boot, it won't work again
[05:36] <cajones> ok...  I just broke firefox - reinstalled with synaptic, still doesn't work - ideas?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> cajones: what error message?
[05:37] <dabaR> ramza3: in build-essential
[05:37] <ramza3>  dabaR: can I use it
[05:37] <cajones> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXt.so [libXt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[05:37] <cajones> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so [libXext.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[05:37] <cajones> Segmentation fault
[05:37] <nalioth> cajones: please do not paste in here
[05:37] <Hobbsee> !tell cajones about pastebin
[05:38] <bud|tarrant> I don't think ubuntu supports serial mice :-/
[05:38] <cajones> got it
[05:38] <dabaR> ramza3: sudo aptitude install build-essential, or install it through synaptic
[05:38] <sn9> ezrider_away: did you configure the wireless from the cmdline or network-admin?
[05:38] <Louis-> yes it supports it
[05:38] <P229> good night all
[05:38] <ezrider_away> sn9 : network admin
[05:38] <Louis-> On XCHAT, when i go to load a plugin (a sysinfo), it crashes
[05:38] <bud|tarrant> are you sure? mine isn't working
[05:38] <ritgerj> does anyone know how to activate a bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[05:38] <nomad111> Hobbsee, just one question how come i dun hav permission to access my other partitions
[05:38] <nomad111> Hobbsee, looks like i need a root account which i dun recall setting up
[05:38] <cajones> can't really use pastebin website without a browser...  /me sighs
[05:38] <Hobbsee> nomad111: what are the other partitions, and who does have access to them?  are they windows ones?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !tell nomad111 about root
[05:39] <plumpkin> i have totem-xine, and the w32codecs installed, yet some movie files still do not play sound, any ideas?
[05:39] <nomad111> ye they are windows
[05:39] <Hobbsee> nomad111: ntfs?
[05:39] <nalioth> plumpkin: are they wmv?
[05:39] <nomad111> that !tell thing isnt working
[05:39] <nomad111> ye they are ntfs
[05:39] <dabaR> nomad111: just prepend your post to me with my nick, irssi has higlighting for that, and I use irssi. OK,  well, that means that the first boot entry in your menu.lst file is used to be the default. you need to set it to the number that the windows installation is. I think it is 6 so make default 6, then try rebooting, please.
[05:39] <sn9> ezrider: network-admin can freeze up by itself sometimes
[05:39] <nalioth> holy cow wheres the bot?
[05:39] <mustard5> Hobbsee, ubotu has quit
[05:39] <Louis-> hey
[05:39] <plumpkin> nalioth, the ones ive noticed are only mpg, all of my wmv's have played w/ sound so far
[05:39] <Louis-> someone can come in pvt to help me upgrading?
[05:40] <dabaR> holycow does not run the bot, nalioth :P You know that guy holycow?
[05:40] <Louis-> To Upgrade
[05:40] <Louis-> With Breezy CD and Synaptic
[05:40] <Louis-> do i need the cd
[05:40] <Louis-> or i can download it from apt-get?
[05:40] <nomad111> dabaR, k ill try it out
[05:40] <nomad111> dabaR, u r a legend
[05:40] <nomad111> thx
[05:40] <ramza3> what does this mean: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:40] <bud|tarrant> I'm not getting any response from my serial mouse on ubuntu live.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> Louis-: read topic
[05:40] <dabaR> nomad111: good luck. it should work, let me know if you want.
[05:40] <ezrider> sn9 : it would work the first time and stop working ?
[05:40] <nalioth> Louis-: if you have internet, apt-get can use it fine
[05:40] <nomad111> k just one thing
[05:40] <dabaR> Louis-: /topic
[05:40] <Hobbsee> ramza3: close synaptic/adept/anything else that is using apt-get
 that's nice
[05:41] <Louis-> yes i just remarqued
[05:41] <bud|tarrant> ::Anyone had experience with using serial mice on ubuntu or ubuntu live?::
[05:41] <cafuego> nalioth: Now try...
[05:41] <imajuchi> nalioth, sorry to bother you, can you help me, i getting this message when compiling make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/imajuchi/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7/src'
[05:41] <imajuchi> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/imajuchi/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7/src'
[05:41] <imajuchi> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/imajuchi/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7/src'
[05:41] <imajuchi> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/imajuchi/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7'
[05:41] <imajuchi> make[2] : Entering directory `/home/imajuchi/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7'
[05:41] <nomad111> how do can i access my ntfs partitions says i dun hav permission
[05:41] <imajuchi> make[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[05:41] <sn9> ezrider: maybe. try from the commandline
[05:41] <imajuchi> make[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
[05:41] <nomad111> only root does
[05:41] <Louis-> [23:40:46]  <bud|tarrant> ::Anyone had experience with using serial mice on ubuntu or ubuntu live?::
[05:41] <Louis-> yes
[05:41] <bud|tarrant> yours works?
[05:41] <dabaR> the breezy mirrors are pretty fast, in bandwidth terms...
[05:41] <bud|tarrant> do I need to set something up or anything?
[05:41] <mustard5> imajuchi, paste in the pastebin
[05:41] <bud|tarrant> I'm getting no response.
[05:41] <ezrider> sn9 : ok so basically i reinstall
[05:41] <alainm> is phpmyadmin out of breezy?
[05:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nomad111 about ntfs
[05:41] <sn9> ezrider: no
[05:42] <ramza3> does U support Sun's java
[05:42] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[05:42] <sn9> ezrider: use iwconfig to connect to you router
[05:42] <nomad111> nalioth, it doesnt work
[05:42] <nomad111> that ubotu
[05:42] <nalioth> nomad111: so it doesnt
[05:42] <dabaR> nomad111: it does now. and the ntfs factoid is what you want.
[05:42] <nalioth> cafuego: ubotu is slacking off
[05:43] <nomad111> thx
[05:43] <imajuchi> nalioth im sorry for the long post
[05:43] <sn9> ezrider: if that still freezes, we've ruled out gnome interference
[05:43] <nalioth> cafuego: no he's lagged
[05:43] <cafuego_> nalioth: ey?
[05:43] <mustard5> wb ubotu
[05:43] <imajuchi> i got kick out
[05:43] <Stricklin> njan, I have dual boot set up :)
[05:43] <cafuego_> nalioth: yes, i know. I was online via same host and started lagging like mad.
[05:43] <mustard5> imajuchi, you can't paste in this channel
[05:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell imajuchi about pastebin
[05:43] <mustard5> !tell imajuchi about pastebin
[05:43] <mustard5> doh
[05:43] <nalioth> imajuchi: use a pastebin for your text
[05:44] <cafuego_> !tel me about incorrect bot usage
[05:44] <zazeem> can someone tell me how i can get wmv and mpeg videos to work in totem??
[05:44] <ubotu> cafuego_: Not a clue
[05:44] <imajuchi> ok
[05:44] <cafuego_> aww :-)
[05:44] <nomad111> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:44] <nomad111> oh sorry
[05:44] <cajones> pastebin doesn't work without a browser...
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> ubotu's factiod is bot abuse
[05:44] <zazeem> an someone tell me how i can get wmv and mpeg videos to work in totem??
[05:44] <sn9> zazeem: install totem-xine and w32codecs
[05:44] <das> did anyone have issues getting azureus to work properly?
[05:44] <zazeem> k
[05:44] <weijie90> hi
[05:44] <cafuego_> EasterSunshine: Yeh, I ctrl-c'd him before. now *that* is botabuse.
[05:44] <weijie90> how do i run a command at boot?
[05:44] <sn9> das: the .deb is broken
[05:44] <nalioth> cafuego_: it works
[05:45] <dabaR> cafuego_: ya, you abuse the poor bot.
[05:45] <dabaR> weijie90: you should specify which command.
[05:45] <cafuego_> nalioth: *nod* grepped the wrong string first time around
[05:45] <das> sn9, im running the script that i downloaded off sourceforge
[05:45] <sn9> das: did you have java working first?
[05:45] <weijie90>  hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
[05:45] <das> sn9, yes, java is working
[05:46] <dabaR> I am so upgrading to breezy atm.
[05:46] <weijie90> dabaR:  hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
[05:46] <weijie90> ooops, dabaR
[05:46] <ezrider> sn9 : so i type iwconfig in terminal
[05:46] <_BEN_> Hrm. The Synaptic terminal window thing doesn't allow you to copy. Damn.
[05:46] <weijie90> dabar: hdparm -c3 -m16 /dev/hda
[05:46] <sn9> das: and the azureus folder is in your home folder?
[05:46] <das> sn9, its on my desktop
[05:46] <dabaR> weijie90: I am not sure, Ill ask.
[05:46] <sn9> ezrider: use iwconfig to set essid and wep key
[05:47] <ezrider> sn9 : it says "lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions."
[05:47] <_BEN_> Anyone able to help me with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i3158?
[05:47] <weijie90> how do i run hdparm -c3 -m16 /dev/hda
[05:47] <weijie90>  at boot?
[05:47] <ezrider> sn9 : my connection was ath0 when it worked
[05:47] <sn9> ezrider: use it with ath0
[05:47] <plumpkin> i fixed the no sound for .mpg files in totem by installing the libmad0 package btw, in case anyone else is having that issue
[05:47] <ezrider> sn9 : explain please... I'm a noob
[05:47] <ezrider> sn9 : iwconfig ath0?
[05:47] <weijie90> how do i run hdparm -c3 -m16 /dev/hda
[05:47] <weijie90>  at boot?
[05:47] <mustard5> _BEN_, you got an image in there?
[05:48] <sn9> ezrider: what is your essid?
[05:48] <_BEN_> mustard5, I had to take a screencap, if that's what you mean.
[05:48] <ezrider> sn9 : it's supposed to tell me in iwconfig ?
[05:48] <dabaR> weijie90: make a bash script, do you know how?
[05:48] <ezrider> sn9 : iwconfig just says no wireless extensions all over again
[05:48] <weijie90> no...
[05:48] <sn9> ezrider: no, i'm asking you
[05:48] <mustard5> _BEN_,  my little modem is straining away :D
[05:48] <_BEN_> mustard5, Aha. ;)
[05:48] <ezrider> sn9 : how can i get my essid
[05:48] <dabaR> weijie90: give me a second to find out what needs to be done.
[05:49] <sn9> ezrider: what essid is your router using?
[05:49] <weijie90> dabaR: do i just put the command in a file and chmod +x it?
[05:49] <ezrider> sn9 : default i think
[05:49] <dabaR> nalioth: do you know how to add a bash script to boot scripts in /etc/init.d?
[05:49] <socomm> !restricted
[05:49] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <ezrider> sn9 : would that make sense ? that's what it tells me in my admin control panel under "ssid"
[05:49] <sn9> ezrider: just the word "default" ?
[05:49] <nalioth> dabaR: i'm sorry i don't
[05:50] <durt> ezrider: use "iwlist wlan0 scan" to find your essid
[05:50] <dabaR> thats cool.
[05:50] <ezrider> sn9 : "SSID : Default"
[05:50] <Stricklin> Anyone here in Singapore?
[05:51] <dabaR> weijie90: do you know how to edit a file? do you use sudo?
[05:51] <ezrider> sn9 : how else would i find out that ESSID
[05:51] <weijie90> ya
[05:51] <weijie90> d0h....
[05:51] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: no, does Australia count as close enough?
[05:51] <bud|tarrant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto <---- I was trying to edit my xserver-xorg but it had no option for serial mice
[05:51] <durt> dabaR: you mean run your own script on boot?
[05:51] <_BEN_> mustard5, Just noticed you're an Aussie. I'm in Adelaide. ;)
[05:52] <weijie90> durt: ya
[05:52] <sn9> ezrider: then assuming your hex wep key is 0123-4567-89, you would type: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid Default key 0123-4567-89
[05:52] <Louis-> ^^
[05:52] <cafuego> _BEN_: you poor bastard ;-)
[05:52] <ezrider> sn9 : i have no wep
[05:52] <ubu-start> need help on an install problem...
[05:52] <mustard5> _BEN_, g'day cobber ;)
[05:52] <Hobbsee> cafuego: careful now lol...if you offend the aussies too much...
[05:52] <ezrider> sn9 : i put it down to configure easily
[05:52] <Hobbsee> gday mustard5, _BEN_
[05:52] <cafuego> Hobbsee: Seeing as I live in Melbourne, I think I'll be right.
[05:52] <sn9> ezrider: then use "off" in place of the numbers
[05:52] <ritgerj> what package type does ubuntu support
[05:53] <Hobbsee> cafuego: fair enough...live in the land of the cold, sydney here
[05:53] <dabaR> weijie90: edit a file, make the first line in the file #!/bin/bash, the second line that command you want, and then save the file. make it executable with chmod as you said above. then, sudo mv the file to the /etc/init.d folder. Do you understand all that?
[05:53] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[05:53] <synd> ritgerj: .deb
[05:53] <_BEN_> cafuego, You're in New Zealand. I don't think any of us need comment.
[05:53] <ritgerj> thanks
[05:53] <weijie90> ya
[05:53] <dabaR> weijie90: then do that, and wait while I ask whether something else needs to be done.
[05:53] <cafuego> _BEN_: No, I just have an .nz domain hanging on this IP. Different issue :-)
[05:53] <sn9> ezrider: after that, type just "sudo iwconfig" and look at Access Point
[05:53] <_BEN_> Ah, Damn. I was going to say something at least semi-witty about sheep.
[05:53] <Stricklin> Hobbsee, is it in the same timezone?
[05:54] <durt> dabaR, he has to run some update command, im trying to remember what i is...
[05:54] <ezrider> sn9 : "Error for wireless requet "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device ath0 ; no such device."
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: no, but i can find out the current time in singapore if you want
[05:54] <ubu-start> startup problem, errmsg is "ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: Unlink after no-IRQ?  Controller is probably using wrong IRQ".. this is on a emachines t6520.
[05:54] <Stricklin> Hobbsee, pretty please?
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
[05:54] <ubu-start> (then the startup is stuck)
[05:54] <Stricklin> thank you
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: bookmark it, it's an awesome link
[05:54] <sn9> ezrider: try: modprobe madwifi
[05:54] <cafuego> _BEN_: Feel free, I loke mocking kiwis as uch as the next guy ;-)
[05:54] <Hobbsee> no problems
[05:54] <Hobbsee> lol @ cafuego
[05:54] <Hobbsee> lunch
[05:55] <cafuego> .SG is two hours behind SYD/MEL
[05:55] <mustard5> _BEN_, I've had a look at it, but its a mystery to me...keep asking
[05:55] <ezrider> sn9 : "FATAL: Module madwifi not foun"
[05:55] <vidim> i need help compiling the latest version of ndiswrapper.
[05:55] <_BEN_> mustard5, Ok, thanks anyway.
[05:55] <dabaR> durt: something to do with sudo invoke-rc.d?
[05:55] <cafuego> Orgo, it'd be 11:55 there
[05:55] <cafuego> holp holp the o, o,o,o, and o keys stoppod workong!
[05:56] <_BEN_> cafuego, Mind having a peak at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i3158 for me? ;)
[05:56] <dabaR> cafuego: lol
[05:56] <sn9> ezrider: sorry it's modprobe ath-pci
[05:56] <NobodyHere> evening all.  Can anyone help with some grub issues?
[05:56] <durt> dabaR, i think it involved "update-rc.d"
[05:56] <ezrider> sn9 : doesnt say anything
[05:56] <dabaR> cafuego: do you know how to add a script to boot time? a bash script.
[05:57] <cius> lol, oh man, thats *really* bad, I didn't have the normal "breezy main" repos in my sources.list...glad I noticed that.  Should be correct now.
[05:57] <sn9> ezrider: try setting essid and wep off again
[05:57] <Agrajag> dude wtf is going on
[05:57] <cafuego> dabaR: Just call if from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:57] <Agrajag> hah, wrong channel
[05:57] <ezrider> sn9 : same answer
[05:57] <cafuego> _BEN_: Looks like you might have tyo check out line 50 of /usr/sbin/update-pango-aliases
[05:58] <dabaR> cafuego: will it be loaded at boot after that?
[05:58] <cafuego> dabaR: Yep
[05:58] <dabaR> cafuego: I am adding a script to boot.
[05:58] <sn9> ezrider: is your wireless usb or cardbus?
[05:58] <aitiba69> hi
[05:58] <cafuego> dabaR: If you want to tweak WHEN it runs, you'll need to set symlinks in /etc/rc2.d/
[05:58] <_BEN_> cafuego, Such a file does not exist.
[05:58] <dabaR> weijie90: created and made executable, and moved to /etc/init.d that file?
[05:58] <durt> dabaR, i think:"sudo update-rc.d script.sh defaults" should work
[05:58] <weijie90> dabaR ya
[05:58] <cius> When I do a dist-upgrade, does it remove all the old stuff i don't need from the old version and replace it with the new stuff?
[05:58] <dabaR> cafuego: as long as it runs at boot, that is fine, thanks.
[05:59] <sn9> cius: mostly
[05:59] <cafuego> _BEN_: Well, whatever file that screenshot says is having issues...
[05:59] <weijie90> hmm... it looks like it worked
[05:59] <cafuego> dabaR: bootmisc.sh will be fine, then.
[05:59] <aitiba69> someone know how can I resolve this error " W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[05:59] <dabaR> weijie90: test, test test:)
[05:59] <ezrider> sn9 : well it came with my laptop, i don't think it's usb but i don't know if it's cardbus either
[05:59] <cius> sn9, so I don't have to worry about having old files for the core stuff, like kernel and such?
[05:59] <_BEN_> cafuego, Oh, right. I didn't notice the x on the end either. ;)
[05:59] <dabaR> aitiba69: post your sources.list to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:59] <sn9> ezrider: is it built-in?
[06:00] <weijie90> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3159
[06:00] <cafuego> _BEN_: See what command it's trying to run, maybe run it manually... then update the script if needed.
[06:00] <ezrider> sn9 : well I didn't put it in
[06:00] <ezrider> sn9 : my laptop is like 2 days old
[06:00] <bud|tarrant> So nobody can help me with this serial mouse stuff huh?
[06:00] <weijie90> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:00] <_BEN_> cafuego, Heh. system (@update) == 0 or die "Failed to update for defoma: $?";
[06:00] <weijie90> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3159
[06:00] <NobodyHere> folks, I've been getting a "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly", I'm now very worried the MBR is hosed.  Could really use some help.
[06:00] <sn9> ezrider: does it show the wireless if you type lspci?
[06:01] <durt> weijie90: it worked - thats whats supposed to happen
[06:01] <weijie90> dabaR: thanks!
[06:01] <aitiba69> dabaR, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3160
[06:01] <dabaR> welcome, do you know whether it works?
[06:01] <cius> NobodyHere, won't a reinstall fix the mbr, or is that an option?
[06:01] <NobodyHere> cius: reinstall what?  grub, or the entire OS?
[06:01] <weijie90> NobodyHere: do u dual-boot?
[06:01] <ezrider> sn9 : would that be "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[06:02] <sn9> ezrider: yes
[06:02] <weijie90> reinstalling the OS wont fix it
[06:02] <ezrider> sn9 : then yes
[06:02] <NobodyHere> weijie- I do have a win2k install, but that's somewhat secondary, I just want to get grub installed and booting at least linux.
[06:02] <cafuego> _BEN_: Ha, typical. Perl eh. EEEEEVIL!!
[06:02] <cius> NobodyHere, well, I'd go for the entire os, but now that you mention it, grub does install itself to the mbr right?  so maybe reinstalling that would help.
[06:02] <NobodyHere> I can worry about the win2k stuff later
[06:02] <dabaR> aitiba69: look, that looks like a mess...Lets fix it. Where are you from, and where did you get that sources.list file?
[06:02] <weijie90> NobodyHere: try reinstalling grub and reconfiguring /boot/grub/menu.lst to dual-boot
[06:02] <cius> NobodyHere, don't pay too much attention to me, I'm still learning this stuff myself.
[06:03] <sn9> ezrider: type iwconfig by itself and see if anything now has wireless extensions
[06:03] <dabaR> NobodyHere: what is the issue? you can not boot linux?
[06:03] <ubu-start> dabaR/weiji90, any thoughts on startup problem, errmsg is "ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using wrong IRQ".. ? thks.
[06:03] <vidim> i need help installing the latest version of ndiswrapper.
[06:03] <plumpkin> i have a quesiton regarding dns, i have a windows server here at home... i can't ping it by name without adding an entry to /etc/hosts.  is there a way to do it w/o adding that entry?
[06:03] <NobodyHere> dabar- I get  "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" trying to run install-grub.
[06:03] <cafuego> vidim: Does the prepackaged one not work?
[06:04] <dabaR> ubu-start: your ubuntu does not want to load?
[06:04] <NobodyHere> er, grub-install.
[06:04] <dabaR> NobodyHere: why are you installing grub?
[06:04] <ezrider> sn9 : no
[06:04] <ezrider> sn9 : still nothing
[06:04] <NobodyHere> because lilo was installed, and was not working quite right.
[06:04] <weijie90> ubu-start: huh? my problem is ok, i just havnt rebooted to test it
[06:04] <ubu-start> right, neither bb, nor the 5.04 I had lying around.
[06:04] <vidim> cafuego: it does not work, i need to try version 1.4
[06:04] <sn9> ezrider: even after sudo modprobe ath-pci?
[06:04] <cafuego> !ndiswrapper
[06:04] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:04] <durt> vidim: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[06:05] <weijie90> NobodyHere: try apt-get install --reinstall grub
[06:05] <ezrider> sn9 : yes
[06:05] <eno> HI!  what is a good ftp client? (for gnome)
[06:05] <weijie90> NobodyHere: (just reinstall grub) and try again
[06:05] <dabaR> ubu-start: something is wrong with your IRQ configuration. did you mess with your bios?
[06:05] <NobodyHere> trying that.
[06:05] <cafuego> That said, I'm running out of battery power. Time to leave.
[06:05] <ubu-start> not at all, & all is fine in winXP as far as I can tell.
[06:05] <sn9> ezrider: do an lsmod and make sure there's stuff there for "wlan"
[06:05] <dabaR> eno: gftp. and nautilus has built in client for ftp. Use places connect to server.
[06:06] <eno> thanks DabaR, now I can upload the website
[06:06] <NobodyHere> will the apt-get reinstall fully install grub, or do I still have to run grub-install?
[06:06] <aitiba69> dabaR, i live on the basque contry and souces.list is made by a friend, why ask this?
[06:06] <ubu-start> this machine has a lot of stuff hanging off USB, though (multiple flash card readers)
[06:06] <ubu-start> (built-in)
[06:06] <Orborde> Does Breezy fix the Double Clock Speed bug on AMD64?
[06:06] <nomad111> dabaR, it worked thx a lot
[06:06] <ezrider> sn9 : yes there is
[06:06] <weijie90> NobodyHere: apt-get will only install grub, not onto the mbr, but grub-install installs grub onto the mbr
[06:06] <SuperLag> Okay.  I have an Apple partition map, and NewWorld bootblock, a swap partition, and a root partition.  (in that order).  Yaboot fails every time.
[06:07] <nomad111> any1 is there an msn messenger client on linux that has voice chat on it
[06:07] <SuperLag> When I look at tty3, it looks like it's continuing to try and install Yaboot with apt, but it's already at the newest version.
[06:07] <petros> hi!
[06:07] <nomad111> like voice conversation
[06:07] <weijie90> NobodyHere: so reinstall using apt, then run grub-install
[06:07] <NobodyHere> wejie- when I run grub-install, I get the same error.  stage1 not read correctly.
[06:07] <petros> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths
[06:07] <nomad111> it is crucial to me if any1 knos
[06:07] <nalioth> SuperLag: can you boot into ubuntu at all?
[06:07] <petros> which pkg is that?
[06:07] <petros> x11 headers?
[06:07] <SuperLag> nalioth: I'm not sure how, if I can't get a bootloader installed.
[06:07] <weijie90> NobodyHere: did u reinstall grub using apt?
[06:08] <nalioth> petros: install xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev and x-window-system-dev
[06:08] <NobodyHere> yes.
[06:08] <petros> nalioth, thx
[06:08] <weijie90> hmm
[06:08] <sn9> ezrider: try: modprobe acx-pci
[06:08] <SuperLag> nalioth: I supposed I can skip the bootloader, and boot with my Gentoo LiveCD and mount & chroot over.
[06:08] <ezrider> sn9 : "wlan 14092 2 ath_pci, ath_rate_sample"
[06:08] <ezrider> sn9 : ok wait
[06:08] <dabaR> aitiba69: because I never saw such a crazy sources.list file:) its not that crazy on second glance. replace the first part with pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 all before your EXTRA repositiories, so replace what you have uncommented with what is in that pastebin
[06:08] <Orborde> Can anyone tell me the difference between "install base system" and "desktop system" in Ubuntu?
[06:08] <nalioth> SuperLag: i'm kinda lost on why yaboot isnt playing nice
[06:09] <apokryphos> Orborde: desktop will give you X, gnome etc etc
[06:09] <SuperLag> nalioth: same here.
[06:09] <durt> what kind of card ezrider?
[06:09] <sn9> durt: atheros abg
[06:09] <dabaR> nomad111: did you hear of skype? there is also gnome-meeting which is compatible with netmeeting in windows.
[06:09] <bud|tarrant> how do you access a gui when the system boots to text based, apokryphos?
[06:09] <dabaR> nalioth: cause it needs to be the first partition, the new world one?
[06:09] <weijie90> can anyone here help out NobodyHere?
[06:09] <apokryphos> bud|tarrant: startx, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:09] <kevogod> bud|tarrant, startx
[06:09] <socomm> !non-free
[06:09] <ubotu> Wish i knew, socomm
[06:09] <nomad111> dabaR, i kno skype and netmeeting but i need one that works in gaim for example
[06:10] <NobodyHere> I just moved the entire grub directory in /boot to elsewhere (--purge wasn't doing the trick) and reinstalled again.  Same error.
[06:10] <nalioth> dabaR: nope, the bootblock can be anywhere
[06:10] <nomad111> dabaR, do u kno if amsn works
[06:10] <SuperLag> dabaR: it always puts the Apple partition map first
[06:10] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: or sudo invoke-rc.d gmd start
[06:10] <bud|tarrant> does that work on any linux distro?
[06:10] <socomm> !commercial
[06:10] <ubotu> socomm: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:10] <bud|tarrant> startx?
[06:10] <iqbala> anyone knows of a iTune like tool for ubuntu?
[06:10] <Orborde> apokryphos: What I want to do is install 64-bit Ubuntu, but the Hoary had a bug that slowed things wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy down until you threw a switch in the kernel, so the full install took several hours. I want to install just the base system, check for and correct the slowdown problem, and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop. Would that work?
[06:10] <ezrider> sn9 : "WARNING: Error inserting firmware_class (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-787-smp/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko): Operation not permitted, FATAL: Error inserting acx_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686-smp/kernel/driver/net/wirelss/acx/acx_pci.ko) :Operation not permitted
[06:10] <kevogod> bud|tarrant, If you are using Xorg or XFree86
[06:10] <vanberge> iqbala, rythmbox
[06:10] <dabaR> nomad111: I dont think msd messenger supports voice.
[06:10] <bud|tarrant> uh.. is mandriva xorg?
[06:10] <weijie90> NobodyHere has a grub-install  stage1 not read correctly error.. pls help
[06:10] <dabaR> SuperLag: oh, yeah, just the little map...
[06:11] <iqbala> vanberge thnx
[06:11] <sn9> ezrider: ok. try: modprobe -r ath-pci
[06:11] <nomad111> dabaR, one last thing how can i make my account hav full root credentials
[06:11] <apokryphos> Orborde: sure, but I have no idea why it's slowing down so much
[06:11] <kevogod> bud|tarrant, Yes
[06:11] <socomm> !msttcorefonts
[06:11] <ubotu> I guess msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[06:11] <bud|tarrant> wow, cool.
[06:11] <bud|tarrant> okay.
[06:11] <nomad111> coz foe many things u need to be root
[06:11] <apokryphos> Orborde: it's also not a great idea to go for hoary now, though
[06:11] <dabaR> nomad111: read the root wiki page.
[06:11] <Orborde> apokryphos: It's a kernel bug involving APIC that I know how to fix, at least as of hoary.
[06:11] <bur[n] er> !tell nomad111 about sudo
[06:11] <bud|tarrant> what does "sudo" stand for?
[06:11] <nomad111> can u refer plz
[06:11] <nomad111> thx
[06:11] <weijie90> "superuser-do"
[06:11] <bud|tarrant> cool.
[06:12] <ezrider> sn9 : same
[06:12] <dabaR> and, if you need another sudoer account, you can add him to the admin group with the current sudoer.
[06:12] <Orborde> apokryphos: So I'm going to set up Breezy 64-bit's base system and then install the full system once I've confirmed that the slowdown isn't happening.
[06:12] <gnuts> hello
[06:12] <Jas-Nix> hello does anyone know what package ldir comes in?
[06:12] <ezrider> sn9 : huh no actually
[06:12] <Jas-Nix> I've googled and no luck
[06:12] <sn9> ezrider: now try: modprobe acx-pci
[06:12] <net_benjo> hello everyone, I have a problem with wireless (intel 2200B/G) after installing Breezy.  I tried searching forums..but no answers so far...can anybody help me here?
[06:12] <zenlunatic> anyone have a package for clearlooks-cairo?
[06:12] <weijie90> NobodyHere: sorry, i can't help, but try googling and asking others.. i gtg
[06:12] <apokryphos> Orborde: if you like
[06:12] <NobodyHere> I've googled it extensively :-|
[06:12] <ezrider> sn9 : "Fatal: Error removing ath_pci (/lib/modules [...] /madwifi/ath_pci.ko) : Operation not permitted
[06:13] <ubugooboo> vanberge i see synaptics did not find it.. i guess i was just download and compile
[06:13] <ezrider> sn9 : now i try modprobe acx-pci ?
[06:13] <Orborde> apokryphos: Thanks.
[06:13] <Virp> are the breezy universe repos down?
[06:13] <vanberge> ubugooboo, rythmbox?
[06:13] <sn9> ezrider: try rebooting, and then do lsmod immediately
[06:13] <ubugooboo> vanberge
[06:13] <ubugooboo> vanberge yes
[06:13] <gnuts> a quick Q, i downloded wy broadcome wireless driver. it is a windows .exe file, how do I get into it?
[06:13] <ezrider> sn9 : do i try rebooting with my connection on or off ?
[06:13] <vanberge> ubugooboo, dont download....  it is there
[06:13] <sn9> ezrider: as is
[06:13] <bur[n] er> gnuts: u sure that .exe isn't a self-extracting zip?
[06:14] <vanberge> ubugooboo, do you have the extra repositories added to your sources.list?
[06:14] <ubugooboo> in synaptics?
[06:14] <ubugooboo> I thought so
[06:14] <gnuts> i click and it says can't open location
[06:14] <bur[n] er> ubugooboo: rhythmbox is in synaptic
[06:14] <Bourne> net_benjo: What king of problem you have with ipw2200? I can't help you but I have that same wireless chip.
[06:14] <kingrayray> hi!
[06:14] <rybarnes> How do I install .sh.md5sum files?
[06:14] <vanberge> ubugooboo, do this:   apt-get update
[06:14] <SuperLag> nalioth: cafuego: Okay... so you guys have Breezy installed on your PPC boxes? how did *you* get yaboot to work?
[06:14] <socomm> rybarnes, you don't.
[06:14] <dabaR> rybarnes: you do not.
[06:14] <kingrayray> anybody know how i'd get the "lndir" ? i can't figure out which package provides it :/
[06:14] <nalioth> SuperLag: mine just worked
[06:15] <kingrayray> i searched for it and didnt find anything, google said xutils but i already have it
[06:15] <kingrayray> which lndir returns nothing, as does locate lndir
[06:15] <rybarnes> socom, that may help. I was trying to torrent CrossOver Office. What is a good torrent site?
[06:15] <bud|tarrant> I can't figure out how to boot this stupid OS into a GUI.
[06:15] <ezrider> sn9 : shit i think it's working !!!
[06:15] <bud|tarrant> I know, I'm the stupid one, but regardless.
[06:15] <[LethAL] > troll...
[06:15] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: www.dontpiratestuffyouthief.com :P
[06:15] <ezrider> sn9 : it synch the clock
[06:16] <vanberge> ubugooboo, i spelled it wrong... rhythmbox.  srry   :-)
[06:16] <socomm> rybarnes, crossover office is a commercial application, and is not really available for free.
[06:16] <ezrider> sn9 : oh i forget thats not the problem
[06:16] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: why is it not booting into a GUI? how did you install?
[06:16] <ezrider> sn9 : the screens still black
[06:16] <sn9> ezrider: is this before the reboot or after?
[06:16] <bud|tarrant> I installed the 'desktop setup'
[06:16] <gnuts> if i open it with archive manager it says 'arcive not supported'
[06:16] <aitiba69> dabaR, i prove your souces.list but before updated the console return the same error
[06:16] <ezrider> sn9 : after reboot
[06:16] <rybarnes> socom, I'll make it free. I can't afford it.
[06:16] <bud|tarrant> and.. I'm in the wrong IRC channel anyways. I can't use ubuntu, it doesn't support serial mice
[06:16] <bur[n] er> bud|tarrant: any errors during install?
[06:16] <ubugooboo> vanberge, found it now :-)
[06:16] <socomm> rybarnes, you may want to give wine a try
[06:16] <bud|tarrant> no, I'm actually on mandriva right now
[06:16] <SuperLag> nalioth: have you ever installed any version of Ubuntu as the *only* OS on a box?
[06:16] <sn9> ezrider: do an lsmod and an ifconfig -a
[06:17] <ubugooboo> looks like it is already installed
[06:17] <SuperLag> nalioth: on a PPC box, that is
[06:17] <vanberge> ubugooboo, glad to hear... that is a nice app  :-)
[06:17] <rybarnes> socom, I'm guessing wine is a P2P program?
[06:17] <socomm> rybarnes, that or use one of the many open sourced office suites
[06:17] <dabaR> aitiba69: weird. I do not know what to do. search the wiki for gpg if you feel like reading.
[06:17] <socomm> !wine
[06:17] <bur[n] er> ubugooboo: what's your problem?
[06:17] <sn9> rybarnes: wrong
[06:17] <ezrider> sn9 : yes but to do that i need to reboot with my connection off ?
[06:17] <ubugooboo> vanberge I guess I call it from terminal
[06:17] <nalioth> SuperLag: i have not
[06:17] <rybarnes> socom, oh, so there are free alternatives is what you are saying?
[06:17] <socomm> ubotu, tell rybarnes about wine
[06:17] <vanberge> ubugooboo, no, it will put an icon under sound/video
[06:17] <sn9> ezrider: no, as is
[06:17] <ubugooboo> found it.. said too early
[06:17] <socomm> rybarnes, crossover office is based on wine
[06:17] <aitiba69> dabaR, do you in whick reposity ca i fine gxmame?
[06:18] <sn9> ezrider: if it seems to be working, let's examine its state
[06:18] <rybarnes> socom, thanks alot.
[06:18] <aitiba69> which
[06:18] <James686> ok, how come Ubuntu cant detect and enable my current Nvidia Geforce FX 500 graphics card when I try to install it? It comes up w/ a blue screen error that says Critical Error: No Screens Found...
[06:18] <gnuts> anyone know how to open a windows executable in breezy?
[06:18] <ezrider> sn9 : thats what I did and my problems still there... i cant boot with my connection on... what i did to get in the system was turn it off, boot and then turn it on
[06:18] <socomm> rather cross over
[06:18] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: don't expect to run MS Office via wine though
[06:18] <ubugooboo> vanberge how do I browse podcasts?
[06:18] <dabaR> aitiba69: gxmame is not in any official repository.
[06:18] <James686> 5500 I meant
[06:18] <bur[n] er> !tell James686 about nvidia
[06:18] <vanberge> James686, did you just install the nvidia driver?
[06:18] <James686> no..
[06:18] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, I'm hoping to run Macromedia Studio Programs (Flash MX, Dreamweaver MX)
[06:19] <sn9> ezrider: is it working right now? if so, lsmod and ifconfig -a
[06:19] <vanberge> ubugooboo, im not too sure... i dont have an ipod and havent ever listened to a podcast... i just use it for my mp3's  :-)
[06:19] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: you'll want to get crossover
[06:19] <bur[n] er> and pay for it ya bastard ;)
[06:19] <dabaR> gnuts: you should not really have to. Do you have a windows install?
[06:19] <ubugooboo> vanberge gotcha thnx
[06:19] <ezrider> sn9 : ok i'll just reboot and turn it on, and do that
[06:19] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, I don't have money. at all.
[06:19] <James686> would that be considered a recent card?
[06:19] <gnuts> nope just ubuntu now. don't like windows anymore
[06:19] <sn9> ezrider: no, do it withou t rebooting
[06:19] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, Its pathetic really.
[06:19] <bur[n] er> gnuts: what .exe would you even want then?
[06:20] <ezrider> sn9 : i can't, the screen's black
[06:20] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: dreamweaver is crap ;)
[06:20] <sn9> ezrider: switch virtual consoles
[06:20] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, What do you recomend?
[06:20] <codo> hmm breezy upgrading is not going on well :(
[06:20] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: gedit :)
[06:20] <[LethAL] > rofl
[06:20] <dabaR> rybarnes: then do not use things you can not afford. I do not drive in a limmo all day. It is essential that people do not pirate proprietary software for linux, for the furtherment of the linux cause:)) but seriously, noone will make us good proprietary software if we pirate it.
[06:20] <ezrider> sn9 : how
[06:20] <[LethAL] > NVU!
[06:20] <vanberge> i just installed breezy on my laptop and dont think it got the wireless nic  :-(
[06:20] <aitiba69> dabaR, which GUI can i use for xmane,do you know?
[06:20] <sn9> ezrider: ctrl-alt-f2, for one
[06:20] <gnuts> bur[n] er, my broadcom wireless driver downloads as a windows executable, and i can't open it to get the .inf file
[06:21] <bur[n] er> gnuts: try to open it with file-roller
[06:21] <ezrider> sn9 : whats it supposed to do
[06:21] <bur[n] er> if you can't.. try to rename it to .zip, then open it with file-roller
[06:21] <James686> well can I still enable my Nvidia graphics card even if I cant install Ubuntu yet?
[06:21] <sn9> ezrider: give you a different text console
[06:21] <bur[n] er> gnuts: also email hte manufacturer to bitch about no releases that aren't .exe's ;)
[06:21] <rybarnes> debar, sorry..I'll try using alternative programs..I just don't know any at all.
[06:21] <dabaR> aitiba69: I never heard of that thing, I mean, I heard the name IO think, but ubotu does not know about xmame, or gxmame. I am not sure, google.
[06:21] <vanberge> rybarnes, nvu is a good web dev proggie
[06:21] <dabaR> rybarnes: /msg ubotu windows
[06:22] <sn9> ezrider: on some laptops, it may be ctrl-alt-fn-f2
[06:22] <tolstoy> any clue why I can hear sounds fine through totem (xine), but can't hear the gnome sounds when I open windows and such?  Or test by hitting the "play" button in sound preferences?
[06:22] <bur[n] er> but dreamweaver is easily replaced...
[06:22] <dabaR> vanberge: web dev, or web des?
[06:22] <aitiba69> dabaR, thank you
[06:22] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: u can check out nvu for a dreamweaver replaement... it's a WYSIWYG editor, but very new
[06:22] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[06:22] <gnuts> bur[n] er, it says archive type not supported
[06:22] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, But not so much flash.
[06:22] <tolstoy> and the multimedia preference thing gives an error when trying to test with esd?
[06:22] <ezrider> sn9 : there is an fn key
[06:22] <sn9> tolstoy: how is esd configured?
[06:23] <tolstoy> sn9, don't know.
[06:23] <vanberge> dabaR, im not sure... i use Vi  :-/
[06:23] <bur[n] er> yeah... nothin i know of rybarnes
[06:23] <dabaR> web development is different from web design.
[06:23] <ezrider> sn9 : neither work
[06:23] <tolstoy> sn9, I see "esd-config", but no other indication of how to "configure" it.
[06:23] <sn9> tolstoy: sound preferences
[06:24] <tolstoy> sn9, enable sound server startup is checked.
[06:24] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, I'll look around. Maybe save up for CrossOver.
[06:24] <sn9> ezrider: ok. boot into single user mode
[06:24] <ezrider> sn9 : how
[06:25] <sn9> ezrider: add the kernel arg "1" in grub
[06:25] <Soxo> how do i install ubuntu
[06:25] <vanberge> Soxo, download iso image, burn iso image, boot computer with cdrom in
[06:25] <ezrider> sn9 : I edit my 686 kernel ?
[06:25] <apokryphos> !tell Soxo about install
[06:25] <tolstoy> sn9, and both pcm and master are turned up, which was a prob once before on some system or other
[06:25] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: it's only $39.95 :)
[06:26] <Soxo> thanks apokryphos
[06:26] <sn9> ezrider: press E in grub, then add "1" and B to boot
[06:26] <tolstoy> sn9, Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon'
[06:27] <chris___> how do i add fonts to ubuntu?
[06:27] <chris___> i put two .tff files in /etc/fonts
[06:27] <chris___> do i need to restart x?
[06:27] <Magnus-swe> nooo
[06:27] <Magnus-swe> :)
[06:27] <ezrider> sn9 : i edit root, kernel, intresd, savedefault or boot ?
[06:27] <chris___> what do i need to do?
[06:27] <sn9> kernel
[06:27] <Magnus-swe> ls /usr/share/fonts
[06:27] <sn9> ezrider: DO NOT edit the file
[06:27] <rybarnes> bur[n] er, I don't even have that much. Some asshole got my info and signed up for some thing and I got charged 15 bucks.
[06:28] <chris___> you mean when i'm in /etc/fonts?
[06:28] <rybarnes> If only I knew how to hack him, I'm mess with him.
[06:28] <X7C> anybody have an iomega portable hdd?
[06:28] <rybarnes> But I'm stupid
[06:28] <chris___> should i put the fonts in /usr/share/fonts?
[06:28] <ezrider> sn9 : how do i add it ?
[06:28] <bur[n] er> rybarnes: could just take it up with your CC company
[06:28] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: someone rotten ?
[06:28] <ubugooboo> vanberge, rhythmbox not working to listen to podcasts RSS feeds
[06:28] <sambagirl> what app would one use to play an .xl file?
[06:28] <sn9> ezrider: not in menu.lst, but while at the grub menu, press E
[06:28] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: my friends yours
[06:29] <ubugooboo> I am looking for something that works like iTunes
[06:29] <dabaR> sambagirl: did you ask google?
[06:29] <bur[n] er> ubugooboo: banshee or rhythmbox
[06:29] <rybarnes> Magnus, Ah, I'll pay the 15 bucks. I hate getting into all that controversy.
[06:29] <vanberge> ubugooboo, what is exact problem?  somebody may be able to help.. i just dont know anything about podcasts
[06:29] <nalioth> chris___: you should put your fonts in ~/.fonts
[06:29] <sambagirl> no i just had it dcc to me from an amiga man.
[06:29] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: im sick of crappy people atm
[06:29] <sambagirl> is some format of video
[06:29] <ubugooboo> http://leo.users.sonic.net/twit.xml I want to feed that
[06:29] <ezrider> yes, then it shows 2 kernel and recovery modes + mem test, i choose my kernel and press e, then another menu comes up, "root, kernel, intrd, savedefault, boot". What do I do now ?
[06:30] <bur[n] er> ubugooboo: try gpodder?
[06:30] <rybarnes> Magnus, Yeah, I am trying to learn more to protect myself.
[06:30] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: "friends" perhaps, maybe get them good all month :)
[06:30] <zazeem> how do u get desktop icons on ubuntu
[06:30] <dabaR> sambagirl: google is a better search engine/information database than #ubuntu
[06:30] <zazeem>  how do u get desktop icons on ubuntu
[06:30] <bur[n] er> ubugooboo: or ipodder
[06:30] <dabaR> zazeem: do you not have any? which ones would you like?
[06:30] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: but they dont stop there
[06:30] <NobodyHere> wejie- still there?
[06:30] <newbie_at_linux> How come when I call someones sip number, there sip software is not ringing and I just get that person's voice mail?
[06:30] <Discipulus> anyone got any good bittorrent sites?
[06:30] <zazeem> i want trash, home, internet, terminal
[06:30] <ubugooboo> bur[n] er is it in synaptic?
[06:30] <ubugooboo> or sh'd I compile it
[06:31] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: they are asleep?
[06:31] <bur[n] er> ubugooboo: ipodder is
[06:31] <sambagirl> anyone able to use ubunto to access demoscene.tv?
[06:31] <newbie_at_linux> no, they are talking to me on gaim
[06:31] <sambagirl> anyone?
[06:31] <ezrider> sn9 yes, then it shows 2 kernel and recovery modes + mem test, i choose my kernel and press e, then another menu comes up, "root, kernel, intrd, savedefault, boot". What do I do now ?
[06:31] <binho> hi for all
[06:31] <bur[n] er> zazeem: trash & home can be set there using hte configuration editor and the apps -> nautilus part
[06:31] <sn9> ezrider: kernel
[06:31] <zazeem> dabar: isnt there some way to add icons by checkig boxes off somewhere
[06:31] <chris___> !libdvdcss2
[06:31] <ubotu> chris___: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:31] <bur[n] er> zazeem: internet & terminal can just be dragged & dropped?
[06:31] <ezrider> sn9 : and press e ?
[06:32] <sn9> ezrider: add "1" to the kernel line
[06:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chris___ about dbd
[06:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chris___ about dvd
[06:32] <[LethAL] > rofl
[06:32] <sn9> ezrider: with E, yes
[06:32] <newbie_at_linux> nalioth how is sip supposed to find the right computer and know which computer uses a sip number?
[06:32] <phillips> is kdevelop supposed to be working in breezy? It seems to have gcc4 transition issues.
[06:32] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: i have 0 clue
[06:32] <esher> ive installed breezy 5.10 dev, any suggestions to upgrade now to 5.10 final ??, or do i simple need an apt-get upgrade to get latest breezy ?
[06:32] <ezrider> sn9 : sorry if i'm asking dumb questions, I'm a total newb. I really appreciate your helping me though, thank you
[06:32] <jhank> has enyone experiences with mkv and xine?  after 10 minutes or so my sound isnt synchronized with the video anymore....
[06:32] <binho> esher
[06:32] <binho> run synaptic
[06:32] <sn9> esher: dist-upgrade
[06:33] <esher> dist-upgrade .. a okay :)
[06:33] <bur[n] er> esher: simpel "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:33] <esher> many thanx
[06:33] <chasmarang> I'm new to this so bare with me - I updated to the new release of the Breezy Badger and I cannot connect to the internet because there are two IP's that pppoe configured
[06:33] <zazeem> weait how do u add a trash icon?
[06:33] <dabaR> zazeem: yes, I know of the same thing. that has a home, trash, computer, and maybe something else. For a browser(internet:-/) icon, just drag one from your menu, I think, same for terminal. you can also right click on the desktop and select open a terminal, or isntall nautilus-open-terminal if it is not there. as for the check off thing, you go into apps>sys tools>conf editor and it is in there under nautilus somewhere.
[06:33] <binho> comment all repositories on sources.list of apt-get
[06:33] <chris___> hmm...i don't seem to be able to locate libdvdcss2
[06:33] <chris___> it should be in repositories?
[06:33] <binho> esher u have a cd?
[06:33] <bur[n] er> zazeem: via the configuration editor
[06:33] <ezrider> sn9 : it says "<-root ro quiet splash"... i add " "1"" ?
[06:33] <sn9> chris___: hoary-extras
[06:33] <zazeem> burner: whats that?
[06:33] <bur[n] er> !tell chris about restricted formats
[06:34] <sn9> ezrider: yes
[06:34] <chris___> ah not breezy?
[06:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chris___ about hoary-extras
[06:34] <bur[n] er> zazeem: applications -> system tools -> configuration editor
[06:34] <sn9> ezrider: without quotes
[06:34] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: children cry good ;)
[06:34] <wotnarg> hrm, is there a simple way for a non-root user to make a process start when a box reboots?
[06:34] <ezrider> ok just 1
[06:34] <sn9> yes
[06:34] <dabaR> chasmarang: hi. you use dsl, and have pppoeconf set up?
[06:34] <soo> dkf
[06:34] <ezrider> sn9 : so it says <-root ro quiet splash 1
[06:34] <chasmarang> yes
[06:34] <NobodyHere> hey guys, how do I disable the graphical boot?
[06:34] <rybarnes> Magnus, My friends arn't that smart.
[06:35] <Magnus-swe> rybarnes: i wanna surf please!!!, g0wdman, can you atleast let me surf!
[06:35] <NobodyHere> in gentoo and such, you hit F1 or escape
[06:35] <chasmarang> hi dabaR
[06:35] <sn9> ezrider: yes, and after you press enter, press B
[06:35] <ezrider> sn9 : alrite
[06:35] <rybarnes> Magnus, my friends use myspace and AIM, that is all.
[06:35] <Magnus-swe> delegating the backbonez
[06:35] <[LethAL] > NobodyHere, temp or perm?
[06:35] <NobodyHere> both :-)
[06:35] <dabaR> chasmarang: are you in ubuntu now?
[06:35] <bur[n] er> zazeem: within the editor... apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[06:35] <Magnus-swe> im not sure i care
[06:35] <rybarnes> Magnus, they are not smart enough to go to a site and use my info.
[06:35] <tolstoy> is there a command-line tool that plays a wav sound effect using the same technique as gnome when it does sound effects?
[06:35] <[LethAL] > NobodyHere, apt-get purge usplash
[06:35] <[LethAL] > ;)
[06:35] <enyc> 0000
[06:36] <tolstoy> like the old esd-play?
[06:36] <[LethAL] > remove --purge*
[06:36] <chasmarang> yes but not in Breezy that's on my other drive
[06:36] <Magnus-swe> OO0e
[06:36] <NobodyHere> k- thanks!
[06:36] <dabaR> chasmarang: what specifics can you tell us about what two entries there are for the pppoe in breezy now?
[06:37] <phillips> wotnarg, start it from your ~/.bash_profile if it doesn't need special privilege
[06:37] <dabaR> tolstoy: that is a too hard question for me. If you are asking for a media player in command line, cplay works.
[06:37] <sn9> ezrider: it should be booting in single-user mode now
[06:38] <wotnarg> phillips: thanks :)
[06:38] <wotnarg> phillips: would that work even if you dont log on?
[06:38] <phillips> nope
[06:38] <chasmarang> I cant tell now I'm not in Breezy because the two IP's wont let me connect to the internet
[06:38] <ezrider> sn9 : it seems to be stuck on "Sending all processes the TERM signal.."
[06:38] <plumpkin> what would i use to set up a scheduled task? (i know about cron, is there a GUI interface thing for scheduled tasks installed by default w/ breezy?)
[06:38] <dabaR> wotnarg: when to comptuer boots, or when you the user logs into his account?
[06:38] <sn9> ezrider: give it a moment
[06:38] <tolstoy> dabaR, and god only knows if gstreamer has some sort of player.  about a billion files, that system
[06:38] <chasmarang> I do have net status and I saved my syslog
[06:38] <sambagirl> `/join #graphics
[06:38] <dabaR> plumpkin: maybe, did you look under the System menu?
[06:39] <das> im trying to install a win32 game using win, but i get an installation error right when the copying process takes place.. any ideas?
[06:39] <das> using wine*
[06:39] <ezrider> sn9 : its taking quite a moment
[06:39] <[LethAL] > das, /j #wine?
[06:39] <plumpkin> dabaR, yea, i wasnt able to find anything.. was just wondering if i missed something somewhere
[06:39] <dabaR> plumpkin: I am upgrading to breezy now, so I do not know.
[06:39] <ubugooboo> vanberge, I downloaded an mp3 but I cannot hear anything with rhythmbox
[06:39] <ubugooboo> it works fine with xmms
[06:40] <ezrider> sn9 : ill try and reboot
[06:40] <dabaR> tolstoy: I missed your point.
[06:40] <SuperTails92> ubugooboo: is gstreamer working right?
[06:40] <wotnarg> dabaR: Im looking for something that will start a program when the boot reboots, independant of me logging on.
[06:40] <grajea01> good evning all, I guess you've heard that question before.. Any ways to overcome the initrd-tools install failure when installing breezy ?
[06:40] <dabaR> chasmarang: want to post what info you have on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl?
[06:40] <sn9> ezrider: when you said boot with the wireless on or off, did you mean in hardware?
[06:40] <dabaR> wotnarg: what program?
[06:40] <ubugooboo> SuperTails92, not sure
[06:40] <dabaR> wotnarg: did you find a way yet, too.
[06:41] <wotnarg> dabaR: a mud actually, but it shouldnt matter, it doesnt need privilages
[06:41] <ubugooboo> SuperTails92, how do I check if gstreamer workign
[06:41] <dabaR> wotnarg: a mud? is that the name of the program?
[06:41] <SuperTails92> ubugooboo: try "ps aux | grep esd" in the terminal to see if ESD works
[06:41] <frankie_> anyone know how to make totem play mp3's?
[06:41] <SuperTails92> * is up
[06:41] <frankie_> or gnomebaker to burn mp3's?
[06:41] <wotnarg> dabaR: no, its actually ~/shadar-test/autorun :p
[06:41] <chasmarang> okay! but I'm not sure how to do this posting to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:41] <SuperTails92> frankie_: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:42] <ubugooboo>  /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[06:42] <dabaR> chasmarang: do you have any information in a file, you said?
[06:42] <SuperTails92> okay, now try System->Preferences->{something about multimedia selector}
[06:42] <dmlinux> mustard5 whatsup
[06:42] <SuperTails92> What's the output audio sink?
[06:42] <dabaR> wotnarg: what is a mud. would it be fair to say that you are trying to add a program to boot time?
[06:43] <ubugooboo> SuperTails92, I did
[06:43] <ubugooboo> now what
[06:43] <wotnarg> dabaR: effectivly, yes. A mud is a online telnet game.
[06:43] <ubugooboo> ESD
[06:43] <chasmarang> yes I do two files one of netstats and one of my syslog when this happened
[06:43] <psusi> why is it that when I copy text in emacs I can't paste it elsewhere?
[06:44] <SuperTails92> ubugooboo: check the volume controls (hardware and software)
[06:44] <ubugooboo> SuperTails92 , notice it works fine with xmms
[06:45] <wotnarg> dabaR: easy way, or should I not bother and/or go for something hackish.
[06:45] <ezrider> sn9 : yes there's a wireless switch
[06:45] <ubugooboo> it just does not work with rhythmbox
[06:45] <tomaj> how do you change the location for apt's downloaded files?
[06:45] <Louis-> YEAH, update to BREEZY successful!
[06:45] <SuperTails92> okay, you *did* install gstreamer0.8-mad, right?
[06:45] <sn9> ezrider: was it on or off when you booted single user?
[06:45] <cddesjar> !hoary-extras
[06:45] <ubotu> hoary-extras is probably see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:45] <ubugooboo> I ran Automatix yesterday
[06:45] <ezrider> sn9 : on
[06:46] <frankie_> SuperTails92:  Thanks, that was painless and easy
[06:46] <dabaR> wotnarg: I just told a person how to add a command to boot time. We created a bash script with that command, and added it to /etc/init.d
[06:46] <frankie_> Ubuntu Rocks!!!
[06:46] <ezrider> sn9 : does it need to be on or off ?
[06:47] <wotnarg> dabaR: That requires root, yes? Its not important enough to bother the root for that.
[06:47] <sn9> ezrider: try turning it off, then booting single user by adding "1" again, and when it's booted and running, turn it on
[06:47] <DShepherd> does the default driver for ati vidoe cards that ship with breezy allow hardware acceleration
[06:47] <chasmarang> I'm sending you a text file now
[06:47] <vanberge> could anybody tell me... as far as wireless goes with ubuntu (using ndiswrapper), if you modprobe ndiswrapper, will that stick?
[06:47] <vanberge> i.e. if i reboot, will the card still work
[06:48] <sn9> vanberge: no
[06:48] <vanberge> sn9, lol... any way to make that 'permanent' ?
[06:48] <dabaR> wotnarg: I am not sure what it does, that is why I am not saying that you should do that. I just know that is how we did what we did a moment ago.
[06:48] <sn9> vanberge: yes
[06:49] <phillips> dabar, I am thinking that there is actually no way to do what wotnarg wants without root hackery, but there is actually no good reason for this
[06:49] <dabaR> chasmarang: paste the text from the file to the pastebin.
[06:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the object of the game bejeweled
[06:49] <DShepherd> does the default driver for ati vidoe cards that ship with breezy allow hardware acceleration
[06:49] <chasmarang> dabaR I'm sending it to you now
[06:49] <psusi> why is it that when I copy text in emacs I can't paste it in other applications?
[06:49] <wotnarg> dabaR, phillips: yea, its not that important. Thanks :)
[06:49] <dmlinux> Is there anyway of using System > Prefrences > Sessions > Startup programs to run a script but not ask for a password????
[06:49] <sn9> dmlinux: yes
[06:49] <dabaR> chasmarang: how are you sending it?
[06:49] <Miksu> hi what is gst-register? my sound carc panel icon has a red mark and config is not possible
[06:50] <dmlinux> sn9 how would that be?
[06:50] <ezrider> sn9 : i think its freezing while "Sending all processes the TERM signal"
[06:50] <chasmarang> okay I'll do that instead
[06:50] <aitiba69> how can i install the pluging to see mpg videos?
[06:50] <vanberge> sn9, could you point me in the general direction perhaps?
[06:50] <sn9> dmlinux: turn off asking for passwords altogether
[06:50] <dabaR> Miksu: it is registering your gstreamer codecs or something to that extent.
[06:50] <dmlinux> sn9 how do i do that
[06:50] <apokryphos> aitiba69: install w32codecs. To get the debs, /msg ubotu w32codecs
[06:50] <sn9> vanberge: bootscripts
[06:50] <chasmarang> I was sending it thru the list on the right I right clicked and it said I could send to you
[06:50] <tomaj_> how do you change the location for apt's downloaded files? my OS drive is full
[06:51] <chasmarang> I aborted on me
[06:51] <sn9> ezrider: even with the wireless off?
[06:51] <dabaR> chasmarang: likel would not work, try the pastebin, please.
[06:51] <ezrider> sn9 : even
[06:51] <dabaR> chasmarang: ya.
[06:51] <nalioth> tomaj_: symlink
[06:51] <cius> Okay, so I think I have my solution...
[06:51] <apokryphos> tomaj_: best way is to probably create a symbolic link to another location
[06:51] <tomaj_> how would i do that?
[06:51] <chasmarang> okay I'll do that
[06:51] <Miksu> dabar the icon tells me to run it, but doing gst-register in terminal doesn't do a thing..how do i run gst-register?
[06:51] <dabaR> Miksu: you can run gst-register in a terminal.
[06:51] <dabaR> ah, ya, let me see...
[06:51] <sn9> ezrider: we're gonna have to go lower level
[06:51] <cius> The bios in my pentium 75 box doesn't have to address more than the current hdd.
[06:51] <tomaj_> nalioth, apokryphos: where is it normally stored?
[06:51] <DShepherd> does the default driver for ati vidoe cards that ship with breezy allow hardware acceleration
[06:51] <vanberge> sn9 im sure there is a way to do it with out having to adjust scripts..  for example, suse linux has a gui option where you can set 'module name'
[06:51] <apokryphos> tomaj_: /var/cache/apt/archive/
[06:51] <nalioth> tomaj_: /var/cache/apt/archive
[06:52] <dabaR> Miksu: gst-register-0.8:) tab-completion works wonders...
[06:52] <ezrider> sn9 : alright, tell me
[06:52] <cius> because I can tell linux how big my drive is, and once the bios hands off the hardware, the kernel can take over and acces my entire drive...right?
[06:52] <sn9> dmlinux: man sudoers
[06:52] <apokryphos> tomaj_: *archives/
[06:52] <chasmarang> dabaR - In name who's name do I put yours or mine
[06:52] <tomaj_> nalioth, apokryphos: so i point that to my home (second) drive and its all fine from there?
[06:52] <Miksu> dabar thanks. should i reboot now?
[06:52] <sn9> vanberge: that's not good enough for ndiswrapper because you have to load the .inf first
[06:53] <psusi> cius: generally yea, linux can access it, but the bios can't... so the boot loader and kernel have to be kept on the part of the disk that the biso can see
[06:53] <dabaR> Miksu: never reboot almost. THis does not require a reboot.
[06:53] <durt> sn9: what do you want to happen at boot time with ndiswrapper?
[06:53] <dabaR> did it run, Miksu ?
[06:53] <cddesjar> that hoary-extras isn't up or something
[06:53] <vanberge> sn9, i already did that...
[06:53] <zrothe> Guys, can you help me get my desktop resolution higher. I have changed my xorg.conf...what else needs to be changed?
[06:53] <vanberge> sn9, i do 'modprobe ndiswrapper'... card works
[06:53] <Miksu> dabar lol, it is working :) the icon needs to be reloaded i think :)
[06:53] <vanberge> i jut dont want to type that every time i boot up
[06:54] <sn9> vanberge: you have to load the .inf every time
[06:54] <DShepherd> does the default driver for ati vidoe cards that ship with breezy allow hardware acceleration
[06:54] <cius> psusi, exactly, and to think, I was thiking of buying a pci ide card....pshhhhh, yea riiiiiight!
[06:54] <dabaR> Miksu: good. what icon?
[06:54] <ubugooboo> SuperTails92, i changed from esd to alsa
[06:54] <psusi> cius: I have to ask though, why are you using 10 year old computers? ;)
[06:54] <ubugooboo> and now i can hear mp3s by rhythmbox
[06:54] <Miksu> dabar the volume control panel icon
[06:54] <nalioth> tomaj_: move your tomaj_ join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:54] <vanberge> sn9, uhh... negative.   as i just booted fresh and that did not happen
[06:54] <zrothe> :/
[06:54] <sn9> vanberge: then you can just use /etc/modules
[06:55] <cius> psusi, cause it was free, and I hate to let good *free* cycles go to waste  ;-)
[06:55] <chasmarang> dabaR - In name who's name do I put yours or mine
[06:55] <dabaR> Miksu: as a side note...to reload the panel, gnome-panel, killall gnome-panel in a terminal. it will restart automatically.
[06:55] <tomaj_> nalioth its not a bot its because i dropped
[06:55] <dabaR> chasmarang: any name you would like is fine.
[06:55] <cius> psusi, gonna use it as a stand alone mp3 player to stream music to my stereo in the family room.
[06:55] <ezrider> sn9 : alright, I think i'll reinstall the system and set it up using iwconfig, and then seen what happens. Do you think my problem could be solved that way ?
[06:55] <Miksu> dabar thankyou. that is useful..
[06:55] <nalioth> tomaj_: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:55] <psusi> a more modern computer wastes more cycles in the time it takes it to compile the kernel than an old computer like that has all day ;)
[06:55] <cius> not as attractive as mini-itx but way less expensive
[06:55] <ezrider> sn9 : instead of setting it up using admin-network
[06:55] <dabaR> Miksu: welcome.
[06:55] <psusi> cius: a P-75 you said?
[06:56] <cius> psusi, yea
[06:56] <chasmarang> if I put my name - chasmarang - you will see it
[06:56] <grajea01> hello. My installation of breezy failed at the base-system install phase when trying to istall initrd-tools. I went thru the forums where they said to boot with acpi=no. It didn't work out. anyone here has a valid solution ?
[06:56] <psusi> I seem to remember winamp just BARELY being able to play mp3s on my P-90 system
[06:56] <sn9> ezrider: do the grub thing again with the wireless on, except this time, instead of adding "1" add "init=/bin/bash"
[06:56] <dabaR> Yes, I will see any name you put, chasmarang
[06:56] <sambagirl> is there a general unix graphics channel?
[06:56] <psusi> I don't think she will handle that
[06:56] <concept10> sambagirl, goto the gimp channel
[06:56] <chasmarang> okay here goes
[06:56] <sambagirl> thanks
[06:56] <cius> psusi, I'm going hard core, something like xmms maybe, command line only if I have to.
[06:56] <Magnus-swe> psusi: having fun ? =)
[06:56] <sambagirl> concept10
[06:57] <psusi> cius: I don't know if you'll even be able to get a command line mp3 player working on that kind of hardware
[06:57] <vanberge> do you have to install something extra to enable WAP ?
[06:57] <dmlinux> sn9 so turning off root_sudo will do it?
[06:57] <psusi> Magnus-swe: getting pissed off that I can't copy/paste between emacs and other apps
[06:57] <cius> psusi, that certainly won't stop me from wasting half my weekend trying.  ;-)
[06:57] <sn9> dmlinux: no, use NOPASSWD
[06:57] <psusi> cius: lol, indeed
[06:58] <Magnus-swe> psusi: ive only had a slight problem with that... keep the window open before pasting or get gnome-2.12
[06:58] <feross> hey does apt-get, aptitude and the GUI (Gnome) package manager all use the same sources and update the same local database to keep track of what is installed or not?
[06:58] <psusi> you should see if you can at least dig up a PII-233 or something though instead... probably easier to find a computer that is only 8 years old than to try and get a 10 year old one to work ;)
[06:58] <aitiba69> apokryphos, i install w32codecs but totem give me the same error
[06:58] <Blair> booting with a mouse attached...see if this works
[06:58] <dabaR> chasmarang: so, you have a DSL modem, and nothing changed on the hardware/ISP side. you also have it all workign under hoary?
[06:58] <Magnus-swe> psusi: xchat stinx in that though... but itll change
[06:58] <Blair> hmm...nope
[06:58] <psusi> Magnus-swe: I highlight text in emacs and copy, try to paste it into other apps, and it doesn't work... window still open
[06:59] <dabaR> aitiba69: install totem-xine, if you want, try that.
[06:59] <zrothe> Does Mplayer not work for breezy?
[06:59] <psusi> not sure which version of gnome I'm using... running breezy
[06:59] <sn9> zrothe: mplayer has been fixed
[06:59] <Magnus-swe> psusi: ah, maybe not compiled for x ?
[06:59] <Magnus-swe> psusi: the way id do it
[06:59] <apokryphos> aitiba69: try using xine or mplayer
[06:59] <zrothe> hrm...i've done the updates and it still locks up when I go to play a dvd
[06:59] <chasmarang> it works under hoary but in breezy there are two modem configs with two IP's instaed of just one
[06:59] <psusi> seems to be... I just installed the emacs package... it opened its own X window
[07:00] <vanberge> spelled wrong...  sorry.. Anybody know if you have to download extra stuff to make a wireless client WPA capable?
[07:00] <ezrider> sn9 : ok so there is root@(none):/#
[07:00] <Magnus-swe> psusi: hmm, ok
[07:00] <chasmarang> in network tools
[07:00] <sn9> ezrider: ok. first type: mount -o remount,rw /
[07:00] <dabaR> chasmarang: OK, so, then you installed breezy, on a separate partition, or hard drive?
[07:00] <Magnus-swe> ezrider: no hosts file in /etc ?
[07:00] <chasmarang> yes
[07:00] <Magnus-swe> mm
[07:00] <dabaR> chasmarang: why not upgrade hoary to breezy?
[07:01] <grajea01> so much for IRC help. thx to all then
[07:01] <chasmarang> that's what I did
[07:01] <sn9> Magnus-swe: init=/bin/bash
[07:01] <dabaR> but on a separate hard disk?
[07:01] <SuseUX> it seems when manually adding a user with "adduser" the accound dont retain sudo, why is that?
[07:01] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: try now :)
[07:01] <Madpilot> in Breezy, how do I tell Nautilus/gThumb to actually open the picture I want to see, rather than just showing me a 2nd set of thumbnails? (This is a Breezy bug, it behaved sensibly in Hoary...)
[07:01] <dmlinux> sn9 how do you find out what you named your machiene :P
[07:01] <dabaR> SuseUX: add him to the admin group.
[07:01] <chasmarang> my main hard drive which I'm using now is still hoary
[07:01] <Magnus-swe> sn9: any shell you like sir :)
[07:01] <sn9> dmlinux: hostname
[07:01] <ezrider> sn9 : ok, doesnt say anything
[07:01] <Blair> uname -a
[07:01] <dabaR> chasmarang: but you have another hard drive, and on it you installed hoary, and upgraded to breezy?
[07:02] <grajea01> magnus-swe got any problems with initrd-tools installation while installing Breezy ?
[07:02] <sn9> ezrider: now try: modprobe acx-pci
[07:02] <chasmarang> yes
[07:02] <sammyf> hey there
[07:02] <grajea01> [thanks for answering, btw, Magnus-swe ] 
[07:02] <dabaR> chasmarang: have you set up pppoeconf?
[07:02] <chasmarang> my slave drive
[07:02] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: what are the errors ?
[07:02] <ezrider> sn9 : still nothing
[07:02] <dabaR> chasmarang: sorry if I am repeating myself:)
[07:02] <Magnus-swe> np grajea01
[07:02] <dmlinux> sn9 ok so if i run this command dm dmlinux - NOPASSWD: /dm/home/bt it wont ask me for a PW when i run the script
[07:02] <SuseUX> dabaR, It's my mum machine, I cannot run ANY sudo commands what so ever
[07:02] <sn9> ezrider: now ifconfig -a
[07:02] <chasmarang> yes I did - that's fine
[07:02] <dabaR> SuseUX: is there only one user? is it hoary?
[07:02] <sammyf> just installed Ubuntu. I have an NVidia Fx5600 ... how can I set the refresh rate to anything higher than 60Hz????
[07:03] <dabaR> SuseUX: what is mum, is that mom?
[07:03] <das> ubuntu can read fat32 paritions, right?
[07:03] <das> partitions
[07:03] <sn9> ezrider: is there an ath0?
[07:03] <dabaR> das: ya
[07:03] <SuseUX> dabaR, yes one user and I had to add a test one, it's on 5.10
[07:03] <das> w00t
[07:03] <ezrider> sn9 : "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited ouput.
[07:03] <SuseUX> dabaR, mum=mom :-)
[07:03] <dabaR> SuseUX: so, the original user does not have sudo privileges?
[07:03] <sn9> ezrider: oops i forgot: mount -a
[07:03] <chasmarang> I was able to get one IP and connect to the internet but today I don't know what happened
[07:03] <grajea01> Magnus-swe : During the base-system install phase, it aborted with "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system." It then says that I should examing /target/var/log/bootstrap.log.. except that the file does not even exit. Hard to go any further then :)
[07:04] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: i have not chatted with one that knows more then i do so i think you can ask anything and get a good reply
[07:04] <ezrider> sn9 : ok so it's ifconfig -a mount -a?
[07:04] <dmlinux> sn9 im lost... ugh thanks for your help though, not gona even attempt it , out of my league for now
[07:04] <GTroy> is an acer aspire good for ubuntu?
[07:04] <sn9> ezrider: no, first do: mount -a
[07:04] <Blair> graj...i couldn't find anything in bootstrap.log either...got to be a bug
[07:04] <SuseUX> dabaR, thats right, and willnot login because of a previous install of SuSE, used the /home/username
[07:04] <tomaj_> nalioth -> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:04] <dabaR> chasmarang: we them need specifics, get the output of ifconfig from breezy, and get the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[07:04] <ezrider> sn9 : same
[07:04] <sn9> ezrider: now ifconfig -a
[07:05] <Miksu> is it possible to combina a ethernet device+wireless device into a bridge for shorewall to operate as a firewall between segment 1:local and segment 3:router
[07:05] <grajea01> Blair must be, and not reported yet I'd guess. It seems I'm stuck there with an inoperable system since it won't install any further.
[07:05] <sammyf> help please ... even a link to a page with instructions on adding other refresh rates is okay ... but I'm running currently at 56hz and it's physically painfull
[07:05] <dabaR> SuseUX: OK. boot in safe mode(one of the grub boot options, when you boot, in the menu.) that will get you into root. then, add a user, and add that user to the admin group. do you understand?
[07:05] <chasmarang> okay hold on
[07:05] <SuseUX> dabaR, I deleted the .gnome direcories but it still dont login
[07:05] <ezrider> sn9 :  "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited ouput.
[07:05] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: hmm, initrd suggests it failed making a chroot and zipping it up to /boot/initrd-kernel-version .. it uses this to find the correct version of os to boot and things
[07:05] <SuseUX> dabaR, ok , i'll try that thanks
[07:06] <sn9> ezrider: ok, hardball: mount -t proc none /proc
[07:06] <dabaR> chasmarang: hey, get the interfaces file right now, too, you can get that without booting into that system
[07:06] <dabaR> SuseUX: OK, welcome, good luck.
[07:06] <grajea01> Magnus-swe Any ways that I'd do that step manually then ?
[07:06] <Puffball> Could someone link me to Ubuntu's GTK packagage? I can't find it in packagaes.ubuntu.com
[07:06] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[07:06] <sn9> ezrider: now ifconfig -a
[07:07] <sn9> ezrider: is there an ath0?
[07:07] <dabaR> Puffball: the gtk package?
[07:07] <chasmarang> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[07:07] <chasmarang> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[07:07] <chasmarang> # The loopback network interface
[07:07] <chasmarang> auto lo
[07:07] <chasmarang> iface lo inet loopback
[07:07] <chasmarang> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[07:07] <ezrider> sn9 : ok lots of text
[07:07] <chasmarang> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[07:07] <chasmarang> mapping hotplug
[07:07] <chasmarang> 	script grep
[07:07] <chasmarang> 	map eth0
[07:07] <dabaR> chasmarang: you wanna use the pastebin for that.
[07:07] <chasmarang> there it is
[07:07] <chasmarang> oh sorry
[07:07] <Puffball> dabaR: 'gtk+-2.2'
[07:07] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: they are pretty easy to make and if you make them wrong its no problem, if i was you id --reinstall the most recent kernel (it should reinstall the initrd for you (i hope)
[07:07] <SuseUX> dabaR, strange though, because I when from slackware to Ubuntu the same way (made it mount /home, seperate partition)
[07:07] <dabaR> chasmarang: please post that there again.
[07:07] <ezrider> sn9 : I don't know if there's a ath0... i only see rose7 rose8 rose9 sit0
[07:07] <grajea01> I've been using Debian for 6, 7 years so far. I just thought of switching to ubuntu today; you can guess I'm pretty mad right now (ok, that's not a constructive comment, but I *do* need to vent some anger) :)
[07:07] <ezrider> sn9 : how can i find out
[07:07] <sn9> ezrider: shift-pgup to scroll up
[07:08] <dabaR> SuseUX: agreed somewhat strange. when you add a user like that, ask me further questions.
[07:08] <Amaranth> dabaR: you mean don't paste that, right?
[07:08] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: its too early in the morning for me teaching you how to make a new OS :)
[07:08] <chasmarang> okay
[07:08] <ezrider> sn9 : no ath0
[07:08] <enyc> eth0 ;-)
[07:08] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: i need some coffee first :)
[07:08] <dabaR> sammyf: what is your question?
[07:08] <grajea01> Magnus-swe point is that I can't do that without any os at all on the system, right ? :))
[07:08] <SuseUX> dabaR, seems that it didn't chown the directory currectly
[07:08] <ezrider> sn9 : tehre's eth0, lo, nr0, nr1, nr2, nr3, rose0 to rose 9 and sit0
[07:09] <dabaR> Amaranth: yes, I guess that is what it meant? was it not clear?
[07:09] <chasmarang> there it is
[07:09] <grajea01> Magnus-swe don't worry 'bout that. I also know my ways around those boxen :)
[07:09] <sn9> ezrider: hmm. lsmod to make sure acx_pci is loaded
[07:09] <Puffball> does Ubuntu even have the GTK core in the repository?
[07:09] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: no, youll need some system libraries or something to switchroot
[07:09] <sammyf> dabaR, I have an NVidia FX5600 ultra ... the only refresh rates I can select are 56hz and 60 hz .. how can I change that?
[07:09] <Amaranth> dabaR: <dabaR> chasmarang: please post that there again. <--i think you need <sarcasm> tags ;)
[07:09] <ezrider> sn9 : "acx_pci 144512 0"
[07:10] <dabaR> Puffball: likely, ask the bot.
[07:10] <zrothe> where can I find output data from mplayer?
[07:10] <enyc> graj: ?why you mad [??]  ?
[07:10] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: when the kernel loads you can pass options to it initrd=/hello/hmm.tgz
[07:10] <sammyf> dabaR, 10mn of that and I'm already getting headaches :/
[07:10] <sn9> ezrider: ok, try this again: modprobe ath-pci
[07:10] <Amaranth> Puffball: of course it does, GNOME uses it
[07:10] <dabaR> sammyf: OK, well, you should read the fixres page.
[07:10] <chasmarang> oh I'll try again I think it is <#>
[07:10] <grajea01> Magnus-swe exactly. That's why I think I'm pretty screwed now. I'd rather not use initrd at all, build my own kernel, etc.. but I guess the install cd can't do without initrd
[07:10] <sammyf> thankies
[07:11] <grajea01> enyc 'cuz currently my main Pc is down without an OS
[07:11] <dabaR> chasmarang: is that the whole file?
[07:11] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: it unpacks this tgz and runs the cmds in it... itll find the boot medium and switch the root and leave the old one behind
[07:11] <enyc> zrone: depends on the vo / ao setting ;-)
[07:11] <SuseUX> sammyf, just edit your xorg.conf and set the H/V refresh correctly to your monitoy
[07:11] <Puffball> Amaranth: yes, well, my problem is I'm trying to install something, and the configuration script can't find GTK, and I've tried several other config scripts that have this same problem
[07:11] <dabaR> Amaranth: read it again:P
[07:11] <ezrider> sn9 : "Warning : could not open '/lib/modules/{...] /volatile/ath_hal.ko': No such file or directory
[07:11] <ezrider> sn9 : and then
[07:11] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: you can boot without one but its semi good not to
[07:11] <Amaranth> dabaR: d'oh, IRC at midnight is no good
[07:12] <Blair> okay...anyone got any ideas? i finally got a ps2-db9 adapter so I can plug a mouse into this box, but when I do ubuntu doesn't care; it acts as if there's no mouse attached, though it has always believed a mouse was configured
[07:12] <enyc> graj: well.....
[07:12] <dabaR> Amaranth: I said, you want to use the pastebin for that after the paste. Then, I told him to post that again there.
[07:12] <Quendi> do you know what the auto X command does in etc/network/interfaces
[07:12] <ezrider> sn9 : Warning : error inserting ath_rate sample blabla Unknown symbol inm module, or unknown paramete (see dmesg)
[07:12] <dabaR> heh, its midnight here too.
[07:12] <grajea01> Magnus-swe I wasn't even aware I could use that option. As I said I don't usually use initrd. Oh well :)
[07:12] <ezrider> sn9 :and then
[07:12] <dabaR> I work at 8am:(
[07:12] <Blair> maybe it's thinking there's a ps2 connector and is ignoring the serial port
[07:12] <chris___> is there a particular package that i need to play mp3s?
[07:12] <chasmarang> yes that's it from /etc/network/interface
[07:12] <Amaranth> Puffball: install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:12] <ezrider> sn9 : "Fatal: error inserting ath_pci : unknown symbol in module or unknown parameter see dmesg
[07:12] <Puffball> ok
[07:12] <chris___> !mp3
[07:12] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:13] <enyc> graj: no harm trying...
[07:13] <grajea01> Magnus-swe, well, I understand initrd's practicality, but if you really know what you need in your kernel, what modules to compile, etc.. there's no need for it anymore, usually
[07:13] <grajea01> enyc: true
[07:13] <sn9> ezrider: what make/model laptop did you say it was again?
[07:13] <Quendi> sn9 what does the auto command do in interfaces
[07:13] <ezrider> sn9 : Sony Vaio PCG K43Q
[07:14] <sammyf> thx .. gonna try it ..bye
[07:14] <dabaR> chasmarang: that is very short. YOu need to run pppoconf again it seems.
[07:14] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: id say it is :)
[07:14] <sn9> Quendi: you mean in iwconfig?
[07:14] <dabaR> pppoeconf, rather.
[07:14] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: otherwise you have a dead duck system
[07:14] <Puffball> Amaranth: its libgtk2.0-dev is already installed
[07:14] <dabaR> chasmarang: is there any way you can get online while having Breezy loaded, from another computerperhaps?
[07:14] <Amaranth> Puffball: hrm, sorry, i'm not sure then
[07:15] <Magnus-swe> chris___: you have been naughty
[07:15] <chris___> why?
[07:15] <Magnus-swe> white ?
[07:15] <Quendi> sn9 i need to create devices x0 and x0 in startup without enabling them. can i not use auto except in the loopback interface? what does the auto do?
[07:15] <chasmarang> I tried that and pppoeconf said that it could not read the connection because there might be another pppoe running
[07:15] <Magnus-swe> chris white
[07:15] <dabaR> you tell us why you were naughty...
[07:15] <chris___> hmm?
[07:15] <Magnus-swe> ?
[07:15] <chris___> me chris white?
[07:15] <chris___> no
[07:16] <dabaR> chasmarang: poff dsl-provider turns off the pppoe connection.
[07:16] <Magnus-swe> im never wrong
[07:16] <Magnus-swe> be nice
[07:16] <grajea01> Magnus-swe oh ? why then ? I always thought that initrd was only used for systems where most of the kernelland stuff is compiled as modules, to permit to load the OS properly, or something similar ?
[07:16] <chris___> i am sorry
[07:16] <chris___> but you're wrong
[07:16] <dabaR> how do you scroll up in screen?
[07:16] <grajea01> I forget the specifics...
[07:16] <Magnus-swe> hmm, ill take that then
[07:16] <sn9> Quendi: i think you want "down" not "auto"
[07:16] <Puffball> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[07:16] <Puffball> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.9
[07:17] <exre> hello...
[07:17] <chasmarang> I can try it!
[07:17] <Puffball> Thats the error I get when the script checks for GTK
[07:17] <sn9> ezrider: type: cat /etc/modules
[07:17] <Quendi> sn9 what is iwconfig? the auto is in etc/network/interfaces
[07:17] <dabaR> you could.
[07:17] <airmikey>  im running an old adaptec scisi card 32 bit  with a 15000 cheeta u320 drive...would i notic a big difference if i ran the drive with an u320 card on a 64 bit pci slot?
[07:17] <wotnarg> anyone else having trouble connecting to wikipedia?
[07:17] <sampan> anyone have any idea why i can't set the time on kubuntu?
[07:17] <sn9> Quendi: on which line?
[07:17] <dabaR> get also what the output of ifconfig is while you are there, chasmarang .
[07:17] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: preloading of modules but most importantly.. find the boot device
[07:17] <Blair> in case anyone's wondering i found something about serial mice needing ALWAYS to be configured by hand...in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto?highlight=%28mouse%29
[07:17] <sampan> this is silly -- if i try to set it it gives me "kde su error"
[07:17] <gmhafiz> Help. How do I install realplayer? using synaptics does not work
[07:17] <ezrider> sn9 : "lp, mousedev, psmouse, sbp2, sr_mod"
[07:18] <sn9> ezrider: that's it??
[07:18] <chasmarang> ifconfig to - okay I'll do that
[07:18] <ezrider> sn9 : well some explanation before
[07:18] <apokryphos> Puffball: don't paste in here. Anyhow, it's pretty obvious that you want the gtk includes, if you don't have them
[07:18] <grajea01> Magnus-swe which is /boot (/dev/hdb1) . But systems without initrd do find it anyway . I've ran a long time without initrd without any problems whatsoever
[07:18] <sn9> ezrider: but no pci anything?
[07:18] <ezrider> sn9 : no
[07:19] <sn9> ezrider: i have an idea
[07:19] <ezrider> sn9 : what is it
[07:19] <dabaR> sampan: I do. You do not know how to do it. Be more specific in the way you post your questions, so we can know what you waant, how it is not working, and what you have tried, and so on.
[07:19] <Blair> but it apparently isn't updated for breezy...could be a bit of an adventure coming up
[07:19] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: what initrd's does is locate some file with a version in it.. then it boots on that device
[07:19] <Puffball> apokryphos: its not so blatantly obvious to someone who's just starting out with linux @_@
[07:19] <sn9> ezrider: type: nano /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:19] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: etc
[07:19] <dabaR> apokryphos: its obvious? I never noticed that is what he wanted:P
[07:19] <newbie_at_linux> what could be the reason for this: chris@ubuntu:~/warzone2100-0.2.2.tar.bz2_FILES/warzone2100-0.2.2$ auto-apt run ./configure
[07:19] <newbie_at_linux> Entering auto-apt mode: ./configure
[07:19] <newbie_at_linux> Exit the command to leave auto-apt mode.
[07:19] <newbie_at_linux> configure: error:
[07:19] <chasmarang> I'm gonna sign off of here and boot up into Breezy and if it works or doesn't work I'll let you know
[07:19] <sampan> dabar, well i click on the clock and when i try to set the time and date i get an error "su conversation failed" -- previously it was "KDE su error"
[07:20] <apokryphos> newbie_at_linux: read the topic; don't paste in here
[07:20] <dabaR> sampan: you have kubuntu installed?
[07:20] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: so you can boot it from an usb stick if you want i guess :)
[07:20] <sampan> dabar, yes -- i asked in #kubuntu but no one responded
[07:20] <sampan> so trying here :)
[07:20] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[07:20] <ezrider> sn9 : what next
[07:20] <apokryphos> Puffball: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met  -- yes
[07:20] <chasmarang> dabaR - Will you still be here in fifteen minutes] 
[07:21] <dabaR> chasmarang: hopefully for you:)
[07:21] <sampan> i even tried setting it via cli (date -s .....) and it tells me "timestamp too far in the future")
[07:21] <tristan622ph> i create a simple "hello, world" program and compiled using this command line "g++ -c hello.cpp". how can i run the compiled program?
[07:21] <chasmarang> :-)
[07:21] <liable> is madwifi available in the repos?
[07:21] <sn9> ezrider: add the line "ath_pci" to the file
[07:21] <grajea01> Magnus-swe Ok, that I understand. I still don't see why the package on the install CD fails to install at all. I mean, the hard drive is blank (no OS at all), the kernel on the install CD is the same as the one it will install (... I assume ??), the /boot filesystem has been formatted, etc etc.. shouldn't be any version mismatch then, right ?
[07:21] <ezrider> sn9 : how do i add it
[07:21] <sn9> ezrider: you're in nano, right?
[07:21] <Magnus-swe> install gtk+ from source and itll stick a .pc file in /usr/lib/pkgconfig for you apokryphos
[07:22] <dabaR> tristan622ph: ./a.out likely, or something like that. list the files in the directory you compiled in, in logn format - ls -l see which ones are executable, and tell me.
[07:22] <ezrider> sn9 : yes
[07:22] <exre> hi... i've request ubuntu cd's, and the status are:"2005-10-03: 25 CDs (sent to shipping company)"......, do you know the version is??
[07:22] <apokryphos> Magnus-swe: erm, thanks; I know :)
[07:22] <Puffball> apokyphos: well thats great, considering that in the entire repository, the search results only returned GTK themes.
[07:22] <sn9> ezrider: it's a text editor that expalins itself
[07:22] <Miksu> sn9 back again .. i asked what should i include in interfaces if i wanted to enable loopback interface and create two devices without enabling
[07:22] <sampan> lol now i can't even do "sudo" with any other command -- it's still telling me my timestamp is too far in the future -- O_O
[07:22] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: seems sane to me
[07:22] <dabaR> exre: did you read the shipit page?
[07:22] <apokryphos> Puffball: libgtk2.0-dev probably
[07:22] <Magnus-swe> apokryphos: ENOPROB
[07:22] <Magnus-swe> :)
[07:23] <Puffball> apokyphos: thats already installed.
[07:23] <sn9> Miksu: you were quendi?
[07:23] <dabaR> sampan: reboot:P no, jj. can you install anything?
[07:23] <Miksu> sn9 yes. nick left as shadow
[07:23] <apokryphos> Magnus-swe: no idea what that means, but sure.
[07:23] <ezrider> sn9 : so i add ath_pci at the end of /etc/hotplug/blacklist ?
[07:23] <sn9> Miksu: which line was "auto" on?
[07:23] <tristan622ph> there is only one hello.o is created, when i type bash hello.o i says cannot execute binary file
[07:23] <sn9> ezrider: end is fine
[07:23] <apokryphos> Puffball: try setting the variable it says, then. export VARIABLE=/path/to/pgk
[07:23] <Magnus-swe> apokryphos: its no problem, errorlevels
[07:23] <sampan> dabar, i just tried sudo apt-get install nano ... (just in the process of getting breezy running after using hoary for some time -- but it's a FRESH install on a fresh HD) -- and even that sudo apt-get fails
[07:24] <tristan622ph> how can i create an executable file
[07:24] <dabaR> How can I scroll in screen?
[07:24] <sampan> with exactly that msg: "sudo timestamp too far in the future"
[07:24] <Magnus-swe> apokryphos: youll know some day i think
[07:24] <sn9> ezrider: then save and exit
[07:24] <grajea01> Magnus-swe so I'm back to square one :) One idea I've had is to install ubuntu 5.04, then upgrade the whole thing throught a apt-get dist-upgrade .. apparently the upgrade process goes seemless. It's just that I find it a bit insane having to download 2 versions of the same distro to get one working. Otherwise I'm really stuck.
[07:24] <apokryphos> Magnus-swe: what is no problem? Cryptic.
[07:24] <grajea01> seemless =seamless
[07:24] <ezrider> sn9 : how do i save
[07:24] <Magnus-swe> apokryphos Magnus-swe: erm, thanks; I know :) /np
[07:25] <sn9> ezrider: just ctrl-X and it will ask
[07:25] <apokryphos> not that I'd compile all of gtk to get that; total overkill
[07:25] <ezrider> sn9 : and then what ?
[07:25] <dabaR> man...my dist-upgrade to breezy failed:(. the upgrade worked though.
[07:25] <Amaranth> dabaR: what is the error?
[07:25] <zenrox> dabaR,  and its not complete
[07:25] <aitiba69> in which repoditory can i find mplayer?
[07:25] <exre> yup... they say, all the request will be sent 2 weeks after 5.10 release.... the 5.10 relese @ 13 oct... and my request sent @ 3 oct...
[07:26] <sn9> ezrider: after you save and exit, leave the wireless on, and type reboot
[07:26] <ezrider> sn9 : i don't go in grub ?
[07:26] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: hmm, yeah... but before you really bein using it.. make your choise work for you... good to learn the dist before you begin Hackin :)
[07:26] <sn9> ezrider: this time let it boot normally
[07:26] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[07:27] <alpha-romeo> hi Guys does any body have ubuntu  running on Acer travelmate 4020 laptop ?
[07:27] <dabaR> Amaranth: I can not see, I did it in screen, and do not know how to scroll:) Ill deal with it for a while then come back and ask if I can not get it to work.
[07:27] <grajea01> Magnus-swe sure, I'll do some config tweaking and stuff before going for the upgrade.. but since many people (colleagues) tell me that ubuntu is quite similar to debian, and I've been using Deb for almost 7 yrs, I don't think I'll be that lost.
[07:27] <alex_> guys, could someone please tell me how to install GTK+ on ubuntu? I can't find it in synaptic
[07:27] <ezrider> sn9 : "shutdown: /dev/initcl:No such file or directory, init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory
[07:28] <sn9> ezrider: did it reboot?
[07:28] <dabaR> aitiba69: universe.
[07:28] <Puffball> apokryphos, I've already tries this, it didn't really work.
[07:28] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: then youll do fine, i used debian in 1997 and up.. its nice
[07:28] <ezrider> sn9 : it just says shutdown: /dev/initcl:No such file or directory, init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory
[07:28] <dabaR> gtk+ is most definitely insatlled already, afaik, alex_ .
[07:29] <sn9> ezrider: if it's not rebooting, force it
[07:29] <dabaR> already being by default in a default install of a desktop system. it uses gtk all the time.
[07:29] <ezrider> sn9 : switch power off ?
[07:29] <sn9> ezrider: but leave wireless on
[07:29] <apokryphos> Magnus-swe: have you definitely verified that you have the file it's looking for?
[07:29] <wes> what is Breezy? I am new to ubuntu and don't know what that is yet
[07:29] <alex_> dabaR, when I try to compile glade2 applications it says it can't find GTK
[07:29] <chasmarang> dabaR-> you are beautiful
[07:29] <apokryphos> wes: latest stable versino of ubuntu
[07:29] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: now i just make apps and stuff, severely surpassing any other dev !Taunt! :)
[07:29] <wes> ok
[07:29] <ezrider> sn9 : alright
[07:30] <Magnus-swe> apokryphos: haha
[07:30] <grajea01> Magnus-swe the machine I'm writing these lines from runs Fedora Core 4. this one is also nice, but will soon be installed on ubuntu as well.. provided I get it to work on my main pc :)
[07:30] <apokryphos> woop
[07:30] <dabaR> chasmarang: why so? works now?
[07:30] <Magnus-swe> apokryphos: have you "A file loose" ?
[07:30] <sn9> ezrider: let me know how well it boots this time
[07:30] <dabaR> I meam, I am pretty, and all...but...
[07:30] <apokryphos> Puffball: have you definitely verified that you have the file it's looking for?
[07:30] <chasmarang> it was poff dsl-provider and I pppoeconf -ed again and now I'm up and running
[07:31] <grajea01> Magnus-swe I used to dev, too. switch to the operations side of my company now, as a sysadmin. seems a bit like a step down, but I like that :)
[07:31] <ezrider> sn9 : YES
[07:31] <grajea01> switch = switched
[07:31] <ezrider> sn9 : you made it work !
[07:31] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: im not getting that... can you rephrase plz
[07:31] <ezrider> sn9 : i'll just check if the internet works
[07:31] <dabaR> alex_: and you read the installation notes for that program?
[07:31] <ram__> i am using ubuntu 5.04, i tried to update it with ubuntu 5.10 but due to dependencies error i am not able to upgarde
[07:31] <dabaR> chasmarang: :D heh. nice.
[07:31] <sn9> ezrider: no, because it will not see the wireless now
[07:31] <ezrider> sn9 : oh
[07:31] <chasmarang> you made it work - you're awesome
[07:31] <apokryphos> ram__: no point mentioning the error without producing the output; use a pastebin service.
[07:31] <alex_> dabaR: yes I did bro..
[07:31] <sn9> ezrider: get a shell
[07:31] <ram__> so i installed 5.10 from base
[07:31] <ezrider> chasmarang : not yet apparently
[07:31] <Puffball> apokryphos, I've run a couple of file searches that didn't return anything
[07:32] <ezrider> sn9 : how
[07:32] <dabaR> chasmarang: thanks.
[07:32] <alex_> dabaR: how do figure out if you have GTK at all ?
[07:32] <ram__> then i have used unoffical ubuntu 5.04 addons
[07:32] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: i wish you the best... have a nice time
[07:32] <sn9> ezrider: is Xwindow working?
[07:32] <chasmarang> ezrider says thanks to
[07:32] <dabaR> there is an increased amount of drunken yelling outside my downtown apartment tonight.
[07:32] <grajea01> Magnus-swe, sorry :) it's getting 01h30 here and I'm getting a bit too tired to write coherently :) I meant that I used to be a developper, now I'm a sysadmin and like it better than developping, even if at my company it's a step down the ladder :)
[07:32] <ram__> my problem is i am not able to run synaptic package manager
[07:32] <ram__> can any one help me
[07:32] <ram__> it shows segmentation fault
[07:32] <ezrider> sn9 : how can i check if it does ?
[07:33] <apokryphos> Puffball: it should be in /usr/lib/pkgconfig
[07:33] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: ive always done both
[07:33] <sn9> ezrider: are you offered a graphical login?
[07:33] <dabaR> alex_: well, gtk is something to do with how your windows are drawn, or so. It is usd by all gnome applications, or something like that.
[07:33] <chasmarang> bye dabaR - I'll drop by again when I'm in trouble again
[07:33] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: cant help it, people arent bright mostly
[07:33] <ezrider> sn9 : yes yes, I'm inside ubuntu now, i've logged in and all
[07:33] <alex_> dabaR: oh well thankx for help anyway
[07:33] <dabaR> chasmarang: see ya.
[07:34] <sn9> ezrider: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[07:34] <dabaR> ram__: what unofficial addons did you use?
[07:34] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[07:34] <apokryphos> Puffball: if it isn't there, then you sure don't have that package installed
[07:34] <mojo> hey, anyone use DSL?  I have a question
[07:34] <ram__> unoffical ubuntu 5.04 addons
[07:34] <sn9> ezrider: type: ifconfig -a
[07:34] <cius> good night to all
[07:34] <dabaR> mojo: Digital SUbscriber Line? go ahead.
[07:34] <Mqueue> GN
[07:34] <grajea01> Magnus-swe so true :)
[07:34] <ram__> everything is fine but i am not able to run synaptic package manager
[07:35] <dabaR> ram hoary-extras?
[07:35] <ezrider> sn9 : eth0, lo, sit0
[07:35] <dabaR> ram__: ^
[07:35] <ram__> yes
[07:35] <sn9> ezrider: there should be lo, eth0, sit0, and nothing else
[07:35] <Puffball> apokryphos: its not there, but when I search packages.ubuntu.com, nothing close to it returns in the search.
[07:35] <ezrider> sn9 : thats it
[07:35] <Magnus-swe> grajea01: its like "where the fuck do i live, they dont even think even for a bit!"
[07:35] <dmlinux> ANYONE here have a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse 2.0 ?? i need serious help
[07:35] <apokryphos> Puffball: you're apparently not searching properly. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gtk%2B-2.0.pc&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[07:36] <Magnus-swe> go away
[07:36] <dabaR> ram__: I am not sure this will actually help, but, change your sources.list file to have official repositories. do you know how?
[07:36] <sn9> ezrider: now type: sudo modprobe ath-pci
[07:36] <mojo> dabaR: yeah, exactly.  When they change over your phone line, it becomes a digital line.  Does this work like ISDN where you'd have to have some equip. to make a analog phone connect to it (Cust.. Premesis Equip), or just a DSL Phone?
[07:36] <dabaR> dmlinux: hah, dont use M$ products:P
[07:36] <sampan> this is really silly -- the clock in the kde panel will NOT let me switch to PDT
[07:36] <grajea01> well.. it is 01h35 AM here.. I'd better shutdown and go to bed now. have a nice one all. Thanks Magnus-swe for your input !
[07:36] <ram__> ya i have check it
[07:36] <Puffball> I guess not @___@
[07:36] <dmlinux> dabaR its a great mouse :P
[07:36] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[07:36] <Magnus-swe> m$ stinks blowhardHastalavista Babix!
[07:36] <TiMiDo> damn I'm bored
[07:36] <sn9> ezrider: did the system lock up or anything?
[07:37] <ram__> every thing is changed back to 5.04 repositories
[07:37] <sampan> it always stays stuck on UTC ... even when i switch it in the configure (via right-click) it still displays UTC time
[07:37] <ezrider> sn9 : no, it
[07:37] <ezrider> sn9 : it's still working
[07:37] <BROKEN_LADDER>  is there any way to see a path in nautilus, instead of those buttons?
[07:37] <Magnus-swe> TiMiDo: do something, coffee  ?
[07:37] <ram__> dabaR: i dont know how to change it back
[07:37] <dabaR> mojo: :-/ is this ubuntu related, or you would like to know about the DSL technology? if the latter, google, and/or wikipedia would be good places to read.
[07:38] <sn9> ezrider: ok, now type: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid Default key off
[07:38] <cyphase> anyone know a good 500GB hard drive?
[07:38] <ram__> dabaR: i need the synaptic package manager to work back
[07:38] <dabaR> ram__: post the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list (in a terminal) to pastebin
[07:38] <cyphase> or bigger too i guess
[07:38] <sn9> ezrider: any adverse effects to that?
[07:38] <ezrider> sn9 : no
[07:39] <sn9> ezrider: now type: sudo iwconfig
[07:39] <mojo> dabaR: well, both.  my friend and i are setting up his pc here to dual boot ubuntu and win2k.  he wants to get DSL at the house (if he can).  He wants to know if it can be set up easily to work in Ubuntu as in Win2k so he can try to use both
[07:39] <Amaranth> dabaR, mojo: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dsl.htm
[07:39] <ezrider> sn9 : ath0 is here !
[07:39] <sn9> ezrider: is Access Point correct?
[07:39] <mojo> Amaranth: thanks, that will answer the dsl equip questions.  So Ubuntu do DSL nicely?
[07:39] <Magnus-swe> slarti, spyderous.. i lift my hat, this is a nice place to be
[07:40] <Magnus-swe> cya's
[07:40] <ezrider> sn9 : how do I know ?
[07:40] <avc> hello
[07:40] <Amaranth> mojo: If it's running through a network card Linux doesn't care if it's DSL, Cable, T-1, or a local network sharing 56k. :)
[07:40] <ezrider> sn9 : it just says 00:00:00:00:00:00
[07:40] <sn9> ezrider: is it all 4's or all 0's or the real MAC address of your router?
[07:41] <mojo> Amaranth: so the DSL equip would have an rj-45 hookup for network.  Okay, that is awesome.
[07:41] <ezrider> sn9 : its not ok
[07:41] <avc> anybody use the terminal in breezy yet?
[07:41] <sn9> ezrider: clearly it's not communicating with the router
[07:41] <dabaR> easier than in win2k. dsl customer terminal equipment(modems) come in two varieties. usually euither a modem, or a modem/router gateway type device. if the former, the command to run is sudo pppoeconf, if the latter, you will set up your computer for dhcp, which ubnuntu does by default on install, if connected to a router.
[07:41] <dabaR> mojo^
[07:41] <Amaranth> mojo: Yeah, don't let the phone company give you one of those crappy USB-only modems
[07:41] <ram__> dabaR: i dont know how to paste this is the first time i am using this
[07:42] <avc> anyone here use gnome-terminal?
[07:42] <ezrider> sn9 : what can I do
[07:42] <nalioth_zZz> avc: lots of us do
[07:42] <dmlinux> ANYONE here have a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse 2.0 ?? i need serious help
[07:42] <dabaR> bah, qtod, avc.
[07:42] <dabaR> mojo: ya, do not get USB networjk equipment.
[07:42] <dabaR> qotd^
[07:43] <brlancer> is there a tool similar to packages.debian.org?
[07:43] <avc> nalioth_zZz, my monospace font in terminal is acting weird. plus sign (+) is subscript. does yours do that?
[07:43] <gmhafiz> Help. Is there a way to play realmedia files aside from installing real player from syaptics?
[07:43] <ezrider> sn9 : can I activate it using admin-network ?
[07:43] <bud|tarrant> okay, so if I got a usb 2.0 pci card installed on my old(k6-2 amd) system, would linux work for it? like.. could I use a usb mouse?
[07:43] <ezrider> sn9 : it says it is not active
[07:43] <dabaR> gmhafiz: yes.
[07:43] <dabaR> gmhafiz: either w32codecs, or restricted formats wiki page.
[07:43] <mojo> dabaR: Amaranth:  Thanks guys, thats cool.  Apprecite the info.  I'll check the website for more qust. on equip, and yeah, i would never get the USB one, cool
[07:44] <sn9> let's try making it work with the commandline first
[07:44] <ezrider> sn9 : alright
[07:44] <dabaR> mojo: welcome.
[07:44] <sn9> ezrider: type: sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[07:44] <ram__> dabaR: i have pasted it
[07:44] <ram__> as ram
[07:44] <dabaR> bud|tarrant: it could. Only way to know is to try, so go ahead.
[07:45] <dabaR> ram__: I will read it.
[07:45] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[07:45] <sn9> ezrider: type: sudo iwconfig ath0
[07:45] <bud|tarrant> and if it doesn't I'm out 30 dollars
[07:45] <b3nw> if I do glxgears i should get some output right?
[07:45] <avc> i dont remember this font problem in hoary's gnome-terminal
[07:45] <sn9> ezrider: is Access Point there now? or still zero?
[07:45] <ezrider> sn9 : now there's something in AP
[07:46] <dabaR> heh, ram__ . ubuntuguide.org? is your system a 5.10 breezy install?
[07:46] <ram__> yes
[07:46] <sn9> ezrider: are you using dhcp for this laptop?
[07:46] <gmhafiz> I tried installig w32codecs but failed. --> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:46] <deFrysk> !info w32codecs
[07:46] <dabaR> gmhafiz: yes, taht never works. did you get messages from ubotu?
[07:46] <ezrider> sn9 : i don't know, I think that's how I set up my router ?
[07:46] <socomm> !ubuntuguide
[07:46] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:46] <sn9> !tell gmhafiz about w32deb
[07:46] <elad`> If I remove packages I got when I installed Ubuntu for the first time, will they (or newer versions of them) get reinstalled when I distro-upgrade?
[07:46] <b3nw> if I do glxgears i should get some output right?
[07:47] <durt> b3nw: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[07:47] <elad`> !tell elad about w32deb
[07:47] <sn9> ezrider: ok then, type: sudo dhclient
[07:47] <b3nw> durt its suppost to kick something out tho right?
[07:47] <durt> b3nw, if you run that command above, then yes
[07:47] <ezrider> sn9 : ok what do i look for
[07:48] <sn9> ezrider: wait for it to finish
[07:48] <b3nw> and if it just sits, and the cogs turn and nothing comes out what would you think be wrong?
[07:48] <ezrider> sn9 : its finished
[07:48] <sn9> ezrider: did it say "bound to..." ?
[07:48] <Nameeater> anyone know why evolution crashes X/gdm with the latest hoary updates?
[07:48] <durt> b3nw, the output comes out in the terminal
[07:48] <dabaR> ram__: open a terminal, please. In there, type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. When it asks you for the password, type in yours. Then, change the contents of that file to what is shown on http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and save, and close the geditor. then, in the terminal type in sudo aptitude update, and wait for it to finish.
[07:48] <ezrider> sn9 : yup
[07:49] <b3nw> durt - i'm aware, i'm saying i'm not getting any output
[07:49] <sn9> ezrider: congrats. you have access
[07:49] <ram__> ok
[07:49] <dabaR> do you understand? if so, go ahead, and tell me whether you get any errors, and whether the synaptic works ram__ ^
[07:49] <Nameeater> some one else must have evolution crashing :(
[07:49] <ram__> dabaR: ok
[07:49] <ezrider> sn9 : it says bount to 192.168.0.100 renewal in 300768 seconds
[07:49] <dylan_> im having a gaim problem wherein i cannot send a file or direct transfer...could this be because im behind a router?
[07:50] <durt> b3nw, if you added the -iacknowledge... parameter, then it will take a few seconds to start seeing output
[07:50] <ezrider> sn9 : ok I'lltry rebooting now
[07:50] <sn9> ezrider: you can try to duplicate this with network-admin now, to see if that screws it up
[07:50] <brlancer> does anyone know why the 'winesetuptk' package conflicts with 'wine'?
[07:50] <elad`> How come kde depends on kimagemapeditor?
[07:50] <sn9> ezrider: once you reboot, you'll have to modprobe ath-pci again
[07:50] <mahangu> !w32codecs
[07:50] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[07:50] <elad`> Why can't I remove it? I did somewhere else, without having to remove kde as well.
[07:50] <brlancer> it didn't in hoary, but after upgrading to breezy it conflicts somehow
[07:51] <mahangu> brlancer, sorry mate still running hoary - works fine for me
[07:51] <ezrider> sn9 : ok, will I have to do it every time ?
[07:51] <b3nw> iacknowledge?
[07:51] <elad`> I think my dependencies are all fucked up. How do I fix that?
[07:51] <Kyral> sudo apt-get -f install
[07:51] <dylan_> im having a gaim problem wherein i cannot send a file or direct transfer...could this be because im behind a router?
[07:52] <sn9> ezrider: first make sure it works this way, then we'll try partial automation
[07:52] <brlancer> mahangu: yeah, I had hoped upgrading would fix other problems, but this one is just dumb
[07:52] <durt> b3nw, run: "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[07:52] <b3nw> why being an asshat?
[07:52] <deFrysk> :D
[07:52] <drcode> hi all
[07:52] <ezrider> sn9 : ok, at least it boots normally now... if internet works right off then you're my hero
[07:52] <drcode> any one know where I can find good manual for Tar command?
[07:53] <drcode> I Want to use it with my tape backup
[07:53] <dabaR> dylan_: yes. turn off the firewall from your router on the port that gaim uses to send files(port forwarrding.
[07:53] <sn9> ezrider: internet won't work at this point until you #1 modprobe ath-pci and #2 network-admin to activate
[07:53] <ezrider> sn9 : so i sudo modprobe ath-pci ?
[07:53] <dabaR> elad`: do not swear, please. is it trying to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> drcode: there's a howto on ubuntu forums about it, not exactly sure where it is now, should be there
[07:53] <sn9> ezrider: yes
[07:53] <deFrysk> drcode, man tar
[07:53] <dylan_> dabaR, but i have 2 other computers that need the router to use the internet
[07:53] <durt> b3nw, if that was directed at me, i am not kidding
[07:53] <liable> !find madwifi
[07:54] <dabaR> dylan_: tghat is why i said enable port forwarding for that port, not remove the router.
[07:54] <gmhafiz> Before restarting Breezy, I was able to access a network computer(wirelessly). Now, when I wanted to browse a network computer, it asks me for a username, domain and password(it didn't asked me that before). After entering my password, I can't connect to the network computer. Please help.
[07:54] <b3nw> *_*
[07:54] <dylan_> dabaR, oh ok thanks
[07:54] <ezrider> sn9 : and then I activate my connection using network admin ?
[07:54] <drcode> thanx
[07:54] <drcode> I Will look
[07:54] <b3nw> why'd they do that heh
[07:54] <sn9> ezrider: yes. see if it works that way
[07:54] <elad`> Kyral: How do I run that for the entire dependency system thingie, not just a single file?
[07:54] <Kyral> elad you don't add any files...
[07:55] <dabaR> dylan_: but, you need to know what port gaim uses. you can perhaps look at the router logs for that? and you will need to router manual if you do not know how to enable port forwarding.
[07:55] <Kyral> just plain ol "sudo apt-get -f install"
[07:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'madwifi' returned no results.
[07:55] <ezrider> sn9 : it works
[07:55] <sn9> ezrider: then try adding "ath-pci" to /etc/modules and reboot
[07:55] <elad`> Kyral: It didn't take any noticeable amount of time.
[07:56] <dabaR> elad`: are you trying to remove a package, and it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[07:56] <ram__> dabaR: i have made the changes but u am not able to run synaptic package manager
[07:56] <dylan_> dabaR, i just want to turn off the firewall in my router completely
[07:56] <ezrider> sn9 : how do I add it?
[07:56] <dylan_> dabaR, how?
[07:56] <sn9> ezrider: edit the file
[07:56] <elad`> dabaR: No, it wants to remove "kde".
[07:56] <dabaR> ram__: ya, I suspected it would not be related, how about sudo aptitude search synaptic, does that work?
[07:56] <sn9> ezrider: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[07:56] <dabaR> elad`: in ubuntu breezy?
[07:56] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[07:57] <ram__> dabaR: ya it works fine
[07:57] <elad`> dabaR: in 5.04
[07:57] <ezrider> sn9 : and i add ath-pci
[07:57] <sn9> ezrider: yes
[07:57] <ram__> dabaR: after this i got a notification saying that 124 new updates
[07:57] <andpoi> Can someone PLZ Help me.
[07:57] <andpoi> I'll explain my problem
[07:57] <dabaR> dylan_: there is a difference, a fundamental one between a router firewall, and a software firewall, as far as I understand it. I do not think there is a way to disable the "firewall". do you have the manual for your router?
[07:58] <dabaR> ram__: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade will get your system up to date, do that as well.
[07:58] <elad`> dabaR: Is that not the kde package itself?
[07:58] <durt> ezrider: you dont need to reboot after adding the module, just modprobe it
[07:58] <ezrider> durt : too late, but thanks
[07:58] <carthik> hi, where can i find libdvdcss2, w32codecs and libdivx4linux .debs for breezy?
[07:59] <andpoi> I tried to upgrade to Breezy. I updated my sources.list with all the new breezy stuff. it woudlnl't fully upgrade, and when i restarted, x won't even work. I tried putting in the old sources, and apt-get dist-upgrade won't work.
[07:59] <ram__> dabaR: but what about synaptic?
[07:59] <sn9> carthik: two of those are in hoary-extras
[07:59] <Hobbsee> !tell carthik about w32codecs
[07:59] <dylan_> dabaR, no
[07:59] <dabaR> elad`: remove it, seems to be a metapackage(a package with just a list of other files to install as a standard kde installation)
[07:59] <Orborde> Is my computer just h4xed, or is something messed up in the signing on the breezy-updates package listing?
[07:59] <andpoi> I tried to upgrade to Breezy. I updated my sources.list with all the new breezy stuff. it woudlnl't fully upgrade, and when i restarted, x won't even work. I tried putting in the old sources, and apt-get dist-upgrade won't work.
[07:59] <tomaj> i used dpkg-reconfigure -a accidentally and i changed some font settings (which i've now restored) and it's resulted in fonts displaying thicker than usual and whatever i do it wont go away
[07:59] <andpoi> if someone can help, please PM
[07:59] <dabaR> ram__: step by step, but, I am not sure yet. do upgrade, I think you should.
[08:00] <sn9> !tell carthik about w32deb
[08:00] <Orborde> !tell me about w32deb
[08:00] <ezrider> sn9 : man, this is horrid, the screens turns black again
[08:00] <andpoi> Has anyone else had my problem?
[08:00] <ezrider> sn9 : back at square 1
[08:00] <dabaR> andpoi: I can try to help, but in the channel. do you have a terminal open?
[08:00] <andpoi> I am on the live CD now, I can't even get on the internet with my base system.
[08:01] <sn9> andpoi: many ppl have had your problem
[08:01] <ram__> dabaR: i cant download now, since i am having download limit so i will do that
[08:01] <carthik> thanks guys
[08:01] <dylan_> dabaR, could i somehow configure gaim to work with my router?
[08:01] <tomaj> andpoi, how can you not be on the internet and be on irc?
[08:01] <andpoi> basically all the stuff i downloaded has missing dependencies, and nothing on it works now, so can i fix this through this live cd?
[08:01] <andpoi> I'm on a live CD
[08:01] <ram__> dabaR: can u give me ur email id so that i can mail u after i have finised it
[08:01] <mahangu> dylan_, port forwrding?
[08:01] <sn9> ezrider: did you add to the top or bottom of /etc/modules?
[08:01] <ezrider> sn9 : bottom
[08:01] <sn9> ok
[08:01] <mahangu> andpoi, you can't download stuff on a live cd
[08:01] <carthik> Anyone know why after installing mplayer-fonts and mplayer-386 and the codecs-essential, gmplayer s still unusable?
[08:01] <mahangu> at least it'l be gone the next tim eyou boot
[08:02] <andpoi> can I fix my hard drive through the live cd?
[08:02] <andpoi> because i've mounted it
[08:02] <dabaR> ram__: use linux.fudo.org, its a forum a friend runs for ubuntu issues.
[08:02] <mahangu> andpoi, fix it?
[08:02] <dabaR> dylan_: likely not. what is teh brand and model of the router?
[08:02] <andpoi> I tried to upgrade to Breezy. I updated my sources.list with all the new breezy stuff. it woudlnl't fully upgrade, and when i restarted, x won't even work. I tried putting in the old sources, and apt-get dist-upgrade won't work.
[08:02] <Orborde> andpoi: Are you using one partiton for / and /home ?
[08:02] <sn9> ezrider: looks like you'll have to take out that line, and load the driver a bit later
[08:02] <tomaj> i used dpkg-reconfigure -a accidentally and i changed some font settings (which i've now restored) and it's resulted in fonts displaying thicker than usual and whatever i do it wont go away
[08:02] <dylan_> dabaR, d-link di-604
[08:03] <andpoi> No, its all on /
[08:03] <ram__> dabaR: how can i contact u later?
[08:03] <andpoi> 1 partition
[08:03] <ezrider> sn9 : how can I do that
[08:03] <Orborde> andpoi: Pull up a terminal and chroot to your root directory on your hard drive.
[08:03] <sn9> well, see if it boots with the wireless off
[08:03] <dabaR> ram__: use linux.fudo.org, it is a forum a friend had set up. Do you understand the concept of a forum?
[08:03] <andpoi> okay, hold on
[08:03] <ram__> dabaR: ok
[08:03] <Orborde> andpoi: (Disclaimer: I only have a vague idea what I'm doing, so please don't expect miracles)
[08:04] <Orborde> andpoi: Did you have anything specially configured pre-upgrade?
[08:04] <andpoi> okay, live cd is being slow
[08:04] <andpoi> Yes, everything.
[08:04] <andpoi> It was like fully customized
[08:04] <Orborde> andpoi: And what point does it get to in the boot process?
[08:04] <sn9> ezrider: booting?
[08:04] <Orborde> andpoi: That could indeed be a problem. What all did you modify?
[08:04] <carthik> sn9, to get libdvdcss2 and libdivx4linux, how do i get the .debs from hoary-extras?
[08:04] <Orborde> andpoi: Where does the boot process bring you to?
[08:04] <ezrider> sn9 : yes
[08:05] <Orborde> !tell Orborde about w32deb
[08:05] <dabaR> crap, I used up my whole / partition
[08:05] <[LethAL] > I'm currently controlling a PC via XDCMP and I was wondering if there was any was to speed it up (It's over the internet, not LAN)
[08:05] <ezrider> sn9 : so i gedit /etc/modules and take back ath-pci ?
[08:05] <sn9> carthik: find a mirror at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[08:05] <sn9> ezrider: yes
[08:06] <dabaR> dylan_: search for that make and model on google, and read the manual on how to set up port forwarding.
[08:06] <sn9> ezrider: then take a look in /etc/rcS.d and /etc/rc2.d to see when hotplug is activated
[08:07] <carthik> sn9, that url gives me a "connection refused"
[08:07] <sn9> carthik: in a web browser?
[08:07] <carthik> sn9, yes
[08:07] <ezrider> sn9 : still with gedit ?
[08:07] <sn9> carthik: odd
[08:07] <sn9> ezrider: no, with nautilus
[08:08] <ezrider> sn9 : thats the filebrowser right ?
[08:08] <sn9> ezrider: right
[08:08] <gmhafiz> I've downloaded w32codec (deb file) How do I install it?
[08:08] <dabaR> hey, dylan_ I mean, you use linux, why send files over gaim anyhow? set up a server.
[08:08] <sn9> ezrider: look for hotplug in both folders
[08:08] <RazaMetaL> hi
[08:08] <RazaMetaL> good night
[08:08] <dabaR> gmhafiz: sudo dpkg -i w32codec*
[08:09] <shaargaraepa> hello
[08:09] <dabaR> hi RazaMetaL .
[08:09] <gmhafiz> ok
[08:09] <dabaR> haha, shaargaraepa.
[08:09] <RazaMetaL> I've a little problem .. :S
[08:09] <RazaMetaL> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[08:09] <dabaR> funny nick.
[08:09] <shaargaraepa> yes, it is :D
[08:09] <RazaMetaL> this sound card have the hability to work with 4 speakers
[08:09] <dabaR> kinda like latin.
[08:09] <sn9> carthik: add this to sources.list: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[08:09] <dylan_> dabaR, cuz its easier
[08:09] <dylan_> dabaR, im 15
[08:09] <shaargaraepa> means carrot
[08:09] <[LethAL] > At least it's not slartibartfast
[08:10] <dabaR> I know, that is why its funny, how you spelled it.
[08:10] <RazaMetaL> conecting 2 to the out and 2 to the aux
[08:10] <dabaR> shaargaraepa: where are you, and where are you from?
[08:10] <ezrider> sn9 : rcS.d shows S40hotplug and S41hotplug-net
[08:10] <shaargaraepa> im from Hungary
[08:10] <RazaMetaL> is not working with my breezy instalation (does no work with hoary)
[08:10] <vanberge> anybody on now that is good with wireless?   i have my card working, ndiswrapper correct... everything works fine EXCEPT my card wont get a dhcp lease.  i ahve to run ifup wlan0  :-(
[08:10] <yo2> :)
[08:10] <sn9> ezrider: ok that's pretty early
[08:10] <dabaR> is that how you spell carrot in hungarian? shaargaraepa ?
[08:11] <dandelion> Hello
[08:11] <RazaMetaL> vanberge, show us our /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <shaargaraepa> ~~yes
[08:11] <sn9> ezrider: we need to make ath-pci load later
[08:11] <zcat[1] > moo
[08:11] <dabaR> oh, wow, its similar in yugoslavian.
[08:11] <ezrider> sn9 : ok, how
[08:11] <lampshade> Anyone install the nvidia module for a GeForece2 Ti?  My X is puking when it tries to load it.  Any ideas?  I got nothing
[08:11] <elad`> You know that circle with the arrows in it that shows up when you middle click on a page in Firefox? How do I enable that in Konqueror, or at least disable whatever it is the middle button currently does?
[08:12] <dandelion> I just installed breezy and really find it very good, but I'd like to use cpufreqd instead of powernowd. When I try to install cpufreqd, it says it's gonna remove 'ubuntu-desktop'... is that sane?
[08:12] <sn9> ezrider: first, lemme look at my own system to see what comes after hotplug
[08:12] <[LethAL] > lampshade, you need the legacy package iirc. That's all I know
[08:12] <shaargaraepa> hmm, exciting :)
[08:12] <taj2> amazing.  #fedora requires nick registration and #ubuntu does not.  A positive already.
[08:12] <[LethAL] > dandelion, ubuntu-desktop won't hurt anything
[08:12] <dylan_> dabaR, i enabled DMZ
[08:12] <lampshade> [LethAL] , Yeah I tried it still puked :-/
[08:12] <[LethAL] > taj2, here it depends on the spambots
[08:12] <carthik> sn9, thanks, I found http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ -- i prefer downloading anddpkg -i ing :)
[08:13] <dabaR> dylan_: what is DMZ?
[08:13] <Shorty`> gah samba is ass.
[08:13] <vanberge> RazaMetaL, iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[08:13] <dandelion> ok i'll try that then :)
[08:13] <shaargaraepa> ofcourse we write  instead of aa, and  in. ae
[08:13] <[LethAL] > lampshade, As I said, all I know :(
[08:13] <carthik> So... how do I get gmplayer to work - i have mplayer-386 mplayer-fonts and mozilla-mplayer packages installed??
[08:13] <zcat[1] > I have nvidia-legacy working (using 'nvidia' in xorg.conf, shows the logo when I let it, etc..) but things like glxdemo and mplayer say I have no GL support..
[08:14] <RazaMetaL> vanberge, yo must have to add the commands iwconfig wlan0 essid any
[08:14] <dabaR> carthik: how about installing gmplayer? is that installed?
[08:14] <taj2> Lethal:  I'm sortof looking around.  I'm going to make a live CD for students.  Maybe knoppix, maybe ubuntu.  Just looking at how active the groups are right now.
[08:14] <RazaMetaL> vanberge, you need to be connected to the wireless network first and later get the ip using dhcp
[08:14] <dabaR> taj2: look into edubuntu on the ubuntu.com page.
[08:14] <carthik> dabaR, there is no such package gmplayer == (graphical)mplayer
[08:15] <[LethAL] > taj2, Well I'm a student... Ubuntu was easier for me to understand than Knoppix :)
[08:15] <taj2> dabar:  nods.  looks good.  I'm just doing the other leg now :)
[08:15] <sn9> ezrider: ok. type: sudo gedit /etc/init.d/ath-pci
[08:16] <sn9> ezrider: put "modprobe ath-pci" in the file and save and close
[08:16] <vanberge> RazaMetaL, i added that line above the others... restarting now
[08:16] <dabaR> Im gonna reboot.
[08:16] <dabaR> see ya in a bit.
[08:16] <ezrider> sn9 : its empty, is it normal ?
[08:17] <sn9> ezrider: then type: sudo chmod 755 /etc/init.d/ath-pci
[08:17] <sn9> ezrider: yes
[08:17] <dylan_> dabar, demilitarized zone
[08:17] <lampshade> when you install the nvidia legacy drivers, do you use something other than "nvidia" for your driver in your xorg.conf?
[08:17] <taj2> Lethal:  I'll also be looking at some bits later that may be less interesting.  Eclipse support for instance.  It is for programming students.
[08:18] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[08:18] <[LethAL] > taj2, I don't know how/if you can add packed to the live CD itself, but once it's running you can install stuff
[08:18] <robert_> hi ! im trying to run sudo but i only get unable to lookup via gethostbyname() what can i do ?? sorry im new to this dist
[08:18] <[LethAL] > packages*
[08:18] <taj2> but this ubuntu is nice :)  I've been using linux for ... 11 years.  This is what debian should have been.
[08:18] <taj2> Lethal:  oh I'll mangle the live CD just fine :)
[08:19] <sn9> ezrider: then type: sudo update-rc.d ath-pci defaults
[08:19] <[LethAL] > robert_, are you happy with editing text files via the console?
[08:19] <Tolstoy> why would sound work in every possible way except the basic sound events? (yes, enabled, yes, polypaudio is running)
[08:19] <Tolstoy> even backspace in terminal window plays a sound, and so does mistyping in firefox.
[08:19] <[LethAL] > taj2, ??
[08:19] <schizoid> Tolstoy: gnome?
[08:19] <Tolstoy> but opening a window, or clicking a check box, nope.
[08:19] <ethy> Hey people, how do I generate the kernel moduel for my current kernel?
[08:19] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeap.
[08:19] <robert_> yes i can do that :)
[08:19] <Tolstoy> schizoid, it's the weirdest thing.
[08:19] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[08:20] <taj2> Lethal:  I could just as easily make my own distro.  Those skills are not out of reach.  But I'm just looking for the distro most close and want to work with them.
[08:20] <sn9> ezrider: then reboot with the wireless ON
[08:20] <schizoid> Tolstoy: tweak system->preferences->sound... if not that then...
[08:20] <[LethAL] > robert_, remember your machine's hostname? Reboot in recovery mode and then edit /etc/hosts and add the hostname to the loalhost line
[08:20] <xophEr> no one can PING my computer, nor connect through SSH, what should I check?
[08:20] <schizoid> Tolstoy: System prefrences -> Multimedia selector
[08:20] <[LethAL] > xophEr, Router, Firewall(s)
[08:20] <Tolstoy> schizoid, and, interestingly, the multimedia choose: tests won't work for esd, the default.  yet paplay, or aplay works fine.
[08:20] <robert_> ok how do i see the hostnamne if i dont remember it ?
[08:21] <[LethAL] > robert_, it's the bit after the @ in the console :)
[08:21] <[LethAL] > Or should be...
[08:21] <schizoid> Tolstoy: did you select alsa?
[08:21] <andpoi> Anyone still here?
[08:21] <andpoi> that was helping me?
[08:21] <[LethAL] > But otherwise I dunno... Oh! uname -a has it somewhere :P
[08:21] <robert_> how can i change that ?
[08:21] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeah, i've tried that.  the test works, alhtough the default source test hangs the applet.
[08:21] <dabaR> well, the upgrade went fine, apart from two things that I can see. My kernel is still the same version 2.6.10, and I did not get a usplash(perhaps related.)
[08:21] <das> !tell das java deb
[08:21] <andpoi> dabar, whatd you tell me to do?
[08:22] <[LethAL] > robert_, you need to fix sudo to be able to do that
[08:22] <dabaR> andpoi: I dont think I told you to do anything.
[08:22] <das> whats that website for the java deb files?
[08:22] <robert_> ok thanks a lot for the help i will try this :)
[08:22] <schizoid> Tolstoy: hmm odd because my install boomed events right of the bat.
[08:22] <vanberge> RazaMetaL, that didnt work... my wlan card still doesnt get an ip :-(
[08:22] <Blair> serial mouse config = teh suck
[08:22] <ezrider> sn9 : and then internet is supposed to work?
[08:23] <ezrider> sn9 : it doesnt
[08:23] <sn9> ezrider: see if it does
[08:23] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeah, and it worked fine under Hoary, too.
[08:23] <schizoid> Tolstoy:  you have eneable sound server and sound for events checked?
[08:23] <ethy> Anybody know how do I generate the kernel module for my current kernel?
[08:23] <das> can someone please tell me the url for those java deb files?
[08:23] <sn9> ezrider: does network-admin see it?
[08:23] <durt> how can i make the control panel thingy disappear when mplayer is in fullscreen mode?
[08:23] <andpoi> okay, I have a huge problem, and seriously if anyone knows how to fix apt-get upgrades, please help.
[08:24] <Hobbsee> andpoi: what's the error?
[08:24] <dabaR> das ubotu did.
[08:24] <Hobbsee> andpoi: send it to pastebin
[08:24] <andpoi> no
[08:24] <ezrider> sn9 : yup, i activate it ?
[08:24] <andpoi> I can't even get on my distro anymore
[08:24] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeap.  that's what I mean by "weird".
[08:24] <mustard5> I notice hoary extras is in the sources.list in the paste bin for Breezy
[08:24] <dabaR> das, he did not. sorry andpoi for the last 2 msgs.
[08:24] <andpoi> I'm on a live cd.
[08:24] <Hobbsee> andpoi: what's the problem with it?
[08:24] <andpoi> Okay
[08:24] <andpoi> I tried to get breezy
[08:24] <mustard5> does that mean the Breezy users can use Hoary extras?
[08:25] <andpoi> and it was done with all but like 38 packages
[08:25] <Tolstoy> schizoid, i even unclicked those, "saved" for session, re-logged in, re-enabled, etc, etc, etc.  google is not being my friend, here.
[08:25] <schizoid> Tolstoy: have you logged out and back in ? and also tried restarting gdm?
[08:25] <andpoi> and wouldn't get the rest
[08:25] <Hobbsee> mustard5: IIRC it's not recommended
[08:25] <das> dabaR, ty
[08:25] <sn9> ezrider: do sudo gedit /etc/init.d/ath-pci again
[08:25] <schizoid> Tolstoy: how about restart gdm?
[08:25] <dabaR> das you should really build your own .deb it is quite simple.
[08:25] <andpoi> and now it won't launch x, won't take the old deb addresses, and won't resolve domains or get on the internet.
[08:25] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeah.  I'll go through it again, just to try again.  (I restarted gdm by rebooting, thinking it was a driver issue.)
[08:25] <mustard5> Hobbsee, k...I asked because its listed in the sources.list for !sources with ubotu , but commented out
[08:25] <schizoid> Tolstoy: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm but that will log you out remember
[08:25] <andpoi> can you help?
[08:25] <ben> Anyone willing to help me try and fix a problem with mkinitramfs during the Breezy upgrade that results in me being unable to boot into the new kernel?
[08:25] <Hobbsee> andpoi: what were the missing packages?
[08:25] <ezrider> sn9 : ok
[08:25] <dabaR> das: I think the .debs that are prepackaged are not for the newest java update.
[08:25] <ezrider> sn9 : done
[08:25] <sn9> ezrider: add a second line to the file "ifup ath0"
[08:25] <andpoi> I don't know, i just want all the old packages, is that possible?
[08:25] <schizoid> Tolstoy: sorry its sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:26] <sn9> ezrider: save and reboot
[08:26] <dabaR> schizoid: you should use sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart. It handles the restart better.
[08:26] <[LethAL] > What's the command to list the files in a packages?
[08:26] <Hobbsee> mustard5: it's "not recommended" - that means "it could work, but if it doesnt, you're on your own"
[08:26] <dabaR> sudo dpkg -L
[08:26] <Tolstoy> schizoid, hm. gdm is not restarting.
[08:27] <[LethAL] > ty dabaR
[08:27] <dabaR> $20
[08:27] <Hobbsee> dabaR: lol
[08:27] <[LethAL] > !
[08:27] <ubotu> [LethAL] : I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:27] <schizoid> dabaR: how so?
[08:27] <andpoi> I know i might be being annoying guys, but this is a serious problem.
[08:27] <Tolstoy> When gdm starts, I get the drum beat.  No login.wav, though.  Hm.
[08:27] <andpoi> can anyone PM me and help me?
[08:27] <andpoi> that knows what they are talking about?
[08:27] <vanberge> anybody in here have wireless working ok?  i've read wifi how to, ndiswrapper how to, and WPA how to, still cant get my card to get an ip without manually running ifup wlan0
[08:28] <dabaR> schizoid: it sees whether it is a good idea to do what you told it to, and then runs what you manually do when you /etc/init.d/name command.
[08:28] <schizoid> Tolstoy: hmm try alt 7, did you make and changes to your X config?
[08:28] <andpoi> can anyone PM me and help me?
[08:28] <andpoi> can anyone PM me and help me?
[08:28] <clavner> is the picture in which 3 people are holding hands copyrighted?
[08:28] <dabaR> andpoi: I can not.
[08:28] <sn9> vanberge: network-admin should be able to ifup for you
[08:28] <melvztechie> guys: how do i uninstall certain packages in a terminal?
[08:28] <andpoi> has anyone else had this problem?
[08:28] <vanberge> sn9, that is already set to dhcp
[08:29] <Hobbsee> melvztechie: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[08:29] <schizoid> dabaR: sorry that doesnt make sense, can you explain better?
[08:29] <vanberge> sn9, like right now, my system started up.. wlan does not have an ip
[08:29] <Tolstoy> schizoid, with sound server and events enabled, I can hit "backspace" in a terminal window and get one of the sounds in /usr/share/sounds.
[08:29] <das> dabaR, how do you build them from a .bin?
[08:29] <dabaR> clavner: copyright is imposed as soon as someone creates a work. Then some people choose to use open source/free licenses to license the right to copy the work. what would you like to do with the picture?
[08:29] <durt> has anyone had any luck with gdkxft or any other way of getting antialiased fonts in gtx1 apps?
[08:29] <ezrider> sn9 : i lose control of the keyboard and mouse after a few second on the login screen !
[08:30] <clavner> dabaR: need to put in as the front page of my project
[08:30] <ethy> Anybody happens to know how to generate the kernel module for my current kernel?
[08:30] <schizoid> Tolstoy: hmm ok so it sounds like its working?
[08:30] <sn9> vanberge: Enable this connection (checkbox)
[08:30] <dabaR> schizoid: it will eventually run /etc/init.d/gdm restart itself. But, it will first do some checks within the system, to see whether restarting gdm is safe at that time. Something to that extent. That is the best explanation I can give you atm.
[08:30] <vanberge> sn9 it is
[08:31] <gogeta> good news
[08:31] <dabaR> clavner: on the web? I am not sure, email canonical.
[08:31] <gogeta> seems my sound issue is directly realted to gnome
[08:31] <sn9> ezrider: well, that's better than a black screen
[08:31] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yes, in every other way, sound works great.  totem.  rhythm box.  via command line (paplay, aplay), and even some beeps, such as in gnome-terminal.
[08:31] <gogeta> switching to kde will fix heh
[08:31] <durt> "I can give you atm" - lol
[08:31] <badei> Question: How can i make getright to work on linux? On oficial site says that get right has no version for linux but there is a program wine who can help!!
[08:31] <Tolstoy> schizoid, I'm wondering if the sound preferences has messed up the paths to sounds, somehow.
[08:31] <ezrider> sn9 : any idea what to do next
[08:31] <schizoid> Tolstoy: dabaR thats not much of a reason, runlevel dependacies should be checked bu the script its self sounds like the scripte you are talking about is a unified wrapper fo init 5 level
[08:32] <gogeta> they mean run getright in wine
[08:32] <carthik> The trick to making gmplayer work is to reload the fonts cache, just in case someone needs to know, and to change the video output to xv, audio output to esd
[08:32] <gogeta> apt-get install wine
[08:32] <liable> !info slmodem
[08:32] <schizoid> Tolstoy: Tolstoy check the events themselves
[08:32] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. I want edubuntu for ppc :(
[08:32] <sn9> ezrider: remove that second line you put in, and always manually activate the connection in network-admin
[08:32] <schizoid> dabaR thats not much of a reason, runlevel dependacies should be checked bu the script its self sounds like the scripte you are talking about is a unified wrapper fo init 5 level
[08:32] <Tolstoy> schizoid, you mean play the event sounds?  that works.
[08:32] <ezrider> sn9 : alright.
[08:33] <ezrider> sn9 : just remind me how to edit that file without getting in
[08:33] <andpoi> gosh!
[08:33] <andpoi> this is so annoying
[08:33] <Stricklin> I cannot seem to get this dual boot to work out correctly
[08:33] <Tolstoy> schizoid, in sound preferences, when I hit the play button: nothing.
[08:33] <Dagonus> 2 Questions: Anyone ever setup Ubuntu on a Compaq TC1000? and there's no make command in terminal, is there a replacement command or how can I add that in?
[08:33] <sn9> ezrider: turn off wireless, reboot, sudo gedit /etc/init.d/ath-pci
[08:34] <gogeta> stricklin?
[08:34] <Stricklin> Yes?
[08:34] <schizoid> Tolstoy: that and check that there is a sound bound to an event ie choose menu item
[08:34] <gogeta> doesent it auto detect
[08:34] <ezrider> sn9 : oh right right
[08:34] <elad`> Can I safely remove ntp and ntpdate?
[08:34] <gogeta> it should just ask you to install to mbr
[08:34] <sn9> Dagonus: apt-get install build-essential
[08:34] <badei> ...so.... i must download GetRight version for windows and after I install it after i install Wine?????
[08:34] <gogeta> yes
[08:34] <dabaR> elad`: haha, youre still removing things?
[08:34] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeah, that's what I've been doing.  are these preferences stored somewhere, say, gconf?
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to see your path in file selector and nautilus?
[08:34] <schizoid> Tolstoy: maybe your just missing the sound events package
[08:34] <gogeta> then something like wine getright.exe
[08:35] <dabaR> badei: get right? why would anyone use that? you have big downloads that you need to resume?
[08:35] <schizoid> Tolstoy: there in there right? but when you play no sound?
[08:35] <elad`> dabaR: Yeah. So, can I?
[08:35] <Dagonus> sn9: Thank you
[08:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> long live ubuntu
[08:35] <dabaR> elad`: can you reinstall them if you do not like how it works without them? is that the question?
[08:35] <Tolstoy> schizoid, right.  if I do something like, "paplay /usr/share/sounds/info.wav" I _do_ get the sound
[08:35] <schizoid> Tolstoy:  ls /usr/share/sounds/gtk-events/activate.wav see what you get
[08:36] <sn9> Dagonus: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/tabletpc/tabletpc-tc1000-debian-notes.txt
[08:36] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: what is the file selector?
[08:36] <gogeta> stricklin the dule boot or boot loader is automated just tell it to install to mbr it will ask\
[08:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> dabaR like when you open or save a file you see it.
[08:36] <badei> Yes, i have big downloads that needs to resume
[08:36] <elad`> dabaR: The question is, are they anything important?
[08:36] <gogeta> if it sees windows it will auto make a option for it
[08:36] <elad`> Do they do anything I need?
[08:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> dabaR i'm having a problem where i see these bubbles instead of the actual file path, so i can't just type in the file path.
[08:36] <badei> is there another program that work on linux with no other programs near it?
[08:36] <dabaR> it is the server that keeps your time showing correctly, something to that extent.
[08:36] <Tolstoy> schizoid, I get a symbolic link to clicked.wav
[08:36] <dabaR> bubbles...hm...
[08:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> badei near it?
[08:37] <cius> whoa, super bad experience just now.
[08:37] <gogeta> heh
[08:37] <Tolstoy> schizoid, it's as if gnome itself is ignoring gstreamer, or whatever's underneath all that.  very odd.
[08:37] <schizoid> Tolstoy: thas wierd but you have that for choose menu item?
[08:37] <gogeta> yea im getting the kdever
[08:37] <Tolstoy> yes
[08:37] <cius> recently dist-upgraded to breezy from hoary, and my xserver just flat out broke.  Wouldn't start up at all.  just did a reinstall...
[08:38] <gogeta> aruldy sick of gnomes bugs
[08:38] <dabaR> I need to jet from here. Talk to you guys later.
[08:38] <RazaMetaL> hi,, any one knows how to enable the Multi-Channel Output for the via82xx sound cards ?
[08:38] <badei> wine sucks!!
[08:38] <gogeta> and its shotty sound support
[08:38] <[LethAL] > badei, What are you trying to run with it?
[08:38] <starscalling> um
[08:38] <schizoid> Tolstoy: select Choose Menu Item and but this in for the sound file gtk-events/activate.wav then play it
[08:38] <sn9> RazaMetaL: something in the mixer, i'm sure
[08:38] <gogeta> razametal go to prefrences in valum controle
[08:38] <dabaR> badei: you have a very good chance there is a download program like that for linux, try searching synaptic after adding all the repositories.
[08:38] <starscalling> apparently my glib is under par for compiling a package or 2
[08:38] <starscalling> what can i do to fix this situation?
[08:38] <Tolstoy> schizoid, ok
[08:38] <gogeta> check it you will see it in switched
[08:38] <gogeta> switches
[08:39] <gogeta> i had a multichannel 3d controled one myself
[08:39] <starscalling> i have the g++ 4.0 compiler even
[08:39] <badei> [LethAl] , i'm trying to get a download manager for linux and getRight only work with that shitty program!!
[08:39] <gogeta> it worked halfass but thats gnomes falt
[08:39] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: oh, wow, I have the bubbles there now too:) its a breezy thing.
[08:39] <RazaMetaL> sn9: nope..  i've tryed it
[08:39] <RazaMetaL> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=via8233
[08:39] <[LethAL] > badei, Language
[08:39] <gogeta> babei its called mozilla firefox
[08:39] <RazaMetaL> Some Via chips support 6 channel output through the line in
[08:40] <[LethAL] > badei, use GWGet and FlashGot
[08:40] <ColonelKernel> how do I configure gnome-volume-manager?
[08:40] <gogeta> yep
[08:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> dabaR ack!
[08:40] <Tolstoy> schizoid, no sound
[08:40] <RazaMetaL> Enable 'Mic As Center/LFE' and 'Line-In As Surround' with alsamixer to use this.
[08:40] <gogeta> see told ya
[08:40] <gogeta> gnome valum is just te gui ver
[08:40] <ezrider> sn9 : everything's fine now. Thank you, you're my hero
[08:41] <sn9> ezrider: you're welcome
[08:41] <Stricklin> If I make the bulk of my hd a separate partition for data (~169GB) what should its mount point be?
[08:41] <dmlinux> Anyone here use a Microsoft Inetllimouse for bluetooth?
[08:41] <ezrider> sn9 : you have insane patience to put up with that :P
[08:41] <RazaMetaL> but I don't have the Line-In As Surround option
[08:41] <RazaMetaL> :S
[08:41] <schizoid> Tolstoy: what do you have for default soundcard in general tab?
[08:41] <ezrider> alright, ciao people
[08:41] <gogeta> enable it
[08:42] <gogeta> i just enabled everything threw the gui
[08:42] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: ya, thats a loss of functionality, in some sense. It caters to people that like to click.
[08:42] <gogeta> aka checked everything in prefrences
[08:42] <sn9> ezrider: you know, you're right, and ive alreday been awake around 48 hours
[08:42] <Tolstoy> schizoid, NVidia nForce2  (which worked in hoary before I apt-getted myself to breezy)
[08:42] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: It should be possible to change. Isn't obvious though, I have not found the option yet.
[08:42] <gogeta> tolstoy try reinstalling the nivida drivers
[08:42] <gogeta> tolsy its probly due to the changes to x
[08:43] <schizoid> Tolstoy: thats the only sound device listed?
[08:43] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yes.
[08:43] <Tolstoy> gogeta, is that the restricted modules package?
[08:43] <schizoid> Tolstoy: do you migrate your gnome settings?
[08:43] <badei> guys!, FlashGot needs another program to be abble running or it runs from default in linux????????????
[08:43] <sn9> Tolstoy: yes
[08:43] <dmlinux> Anyone here use a Microsoft Inetllimouse for bluetooth?
[08:43] <Tolstoy> schizoid, ummmm nope.  do you mean just erase .gnome2?
[08:43] <gogeta> or run a x reconfigure
[08:43] <cius> tolsy, what changes to x did they do in breezy?  cause my upgrade totally screwed my ability to use x
[08:44] <gogeta> sounds like a setting got wacked
[08:44] <schizoid> Tolstoy: I wouldnt say to do that, that would be a fast way to reset gnome settings, but you can try to create a new user up to you.
[08:44] <Tolstoy> cius, I was able to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix X (or actually, just change the font settings)
[08:44] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeah, I'll try that.
[08:45] <cius> tolstoy, I tried that and it still didn't work for me.  well, not font settings, but I went through the reconfigure thing.
[08:45] <gogeta> heh i used to prefer gnome but it seems to be falling fast
[08:46] <schizoid> dabaR:  update-rc.d is just a wrapper script to /etc/init.d/{service} start/stop etc. the effect is the same.
[08:46] <Tolstoy> cius, sn9, the weird thing is that it's just the sound events that I don't hear, everything else wounds great
[08:47] <bigboyroy> hi all
[08:47] <cius> tolstoy, wish i could say the same.  Did you check the obvious and make sure that sounds were actually turned on?
[08:47] <gogeta> tolstoy this er of gnome has relly bad sound support
[08:47] <sn9> Tolstoy: nvidia works?
[08:47] <bliggy> if anyone has a moment could you please look at this thread I have going in the forums? and possibly assist? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[08:47] <dabaR> schizoid: ok.
[08:48] <Tolstoy> cius, yeap.  even the pcm stuff, all that.
[08:48] <Tolstoy> sn9, yeah, the video, rythmbox, totem, etc, etc
[08:48] <gogeta> tolstoy at least you got sound
[08:49] <gogeta> tolstoy gnome totaly failed for sound for me
[08:49] <gogeta> on 2 year old card
[08:50] <schizoid> Tolstoy: try makeing a new user see how that goes, mean time I'll find what package this pertains too, possibly reinstalling the package will register an gconf issues
[08:50] <Tolstoy> schizoid, okay, new user.  multimedia defaults to esd for sink, oss for source.  neither of them pass the test.  I get "failure to construct test pipleline"
[08:50] <Tolstoy> schizoid, I wonder if it's that extra gstreamer-plugin package I installed?
[08:50] <sn9> Tolstoy: is esd running?
[08:50] <schizoid> Tolstoy: humm are you using enlightenment?
[08:51] <Tolstoy> sn9, there is no esd.  however, polypaudio is running.  again, sound works, just not gnome sound events
[08:51] <gogeta> thats why lol
[08:51] <sn9> Tolstoy: try turning on esd
[08:52] <Tolstoy> sn9, esd just returns.  doesn't seem to do anything.
[08:52] <[LethAL] > Tolstoy, run it from Alt-F2
[08:52] <sn9> Tolstoy: sound preferences configures it
[08:52] <Tolstoy> sn9, er, looks like it's a script that runs polypaudio
[08:52] <[LethAL] > Tolstoy, then you hear it's startup sound :P
[08:53] <Tolstoy> [LethAL] , nope. ;)
[08:53] <[LethAL] > :(
[08:53] <[LethAL] > Maybe it's a mixing problem
[08:54] <jeremias> how to update to the new ubuntu
[08:54] <[LethAL] > !tell jeremias about breezy
[08:54] <[LethAL] > jeremias, read the link Ubotu gave yo
[08:55] <[LethAL] > u
[08:55] <Hmmmm> any repositoris for breezy backports up yet?
[08:55] <sn9> Hmmmm: no
[08:55] <carthik> Hmmmm, there has to be a "dapper" before there are backports ;)
[08:55] <[LethAL] > ^^
[08:55] <bsd3> hi
[08:56] <jeremias> [LethAL] : thanks
[08:56] <Hmmmm> and, carthik, what exactly is a dapper?
[08:56] <bsd3> What's in ISO only mirror?
[08:57] <dazvid> Where is the fstab situated?
[08:57] <[LethAL] > !dapper
[08:57] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.
[08:57] <schizoid> Tolstoy: what happens whe you test the osd sind?
[08:57] <schizoid> Tolstoy: sink?
[08:57] <schizoid> Tolstoy: sorry esd?
[08:57] <durt> what is up with the weird ubuntu names?
[08:57] <starscalling> schizoid: would you know about glib please?
[08:57] <sn9> dazvid: /etc
[08:58] <Tolstoy> I get that "failure to construct a test pipeline" message.
[08:58] <schizoid> starscalling: a little whats the problem?
[08:58] <starscalling> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no
[08:58] <starscalling>  <<--- how can i check what version i do have in?
[08:58] <Tolstoy> schizoid, I get that "failure to construct a test pipeline" message.
[08:58] <starscalling> im trying to compile xchat 2.4.5
[08:58] <starscalling> :P
[08:58] <Madpilot> oh, that is TOO cool - in Breezy when you stick an audio CD in, SoundJuicer comes up, and it plays CDs as well as rips now. Excellentness.
[08:58] <[LethAL] > starscalling as a guess glib --version?
[08:58] <Hmmmm> anyone facing a problem accessing gmail?
[08:58] <schizoid> starscalling: pastbin error
[08:58] <Tolstoy> schizoid, with my new user, I can aplay info.wav, but NOT paplay info.wav
[08:58] <liable> starscalling: why are you compiling it?
[08:58] <starscalling> ok
[08:58] <[LethAL] > Hmmmm, nope
[08:58] <starscalling> liable: because it has functions that 2.4.4 does not have that i do want
[08:58] <duri> hello, how would I go to find a listing of essential "metapackages" such as 'build-essentials' ?
[08:58] <sn9> starscalling: apt-get build-deps xchat
[08:58] <bsd3> I'm trying install kubuntu from my local http server
[08:58] <Ekibyougami> nope, no problems with gmail
[08:59] <liable> duri: apt-cahe search
[08:59] <liable> cache..
[08:59] <Hmmmm> [LethAL] , i cant get through to the gmail website for some funny reason. i get a time-out!
[08:59] <starscalling> sn9: from inside that folder that im trying to compile?
[08:59] <sn9> as root
[08:59] <schizoid> Tolstoy: in your volume control goto what does it have in the title for mixer?
[08:59] <duri> ok but how do I know what the important metapackages ?
[08:59] <dazvid> !NTFS
[08:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:59] <Tolstoy> schizoid, and there's no polypaudio, even if I toggle enable sound server a bunch of times
[08:59] <liable> starscalling: or take a look at auto-apt
[08:59] <bsd3> i have in ISO and can mount it under http doc-root
[08:59] <starscalling> i think i have that in
[08:59] <bigboyroy> whats a good site to download torrents???
[09:00] <Madpilot> sn9: sudo, not root in Ubuntu, by default
[09:00] <schizoid> starscalling: did you install? glib-dev
[09:00] <starscalling> yes i do have auto apt in
[09:00] <Tolstoy> schizoid, title of the "Volume Control"?  NVidia nForce2 (Alsa Mixer)
[09:00] <starscalling> glib-dev?
[09:00] <sn9> Madpilot: same thing
[09:00] <starscalling> let me check
[09:00] <bsd3> Help! Plz!! Help!! me
[09:00] <duri> liable: how do I find what are the important metapackages ?
[09:00] <schizoid> starscalling: yes you cant build anything against glib with out dev package
[09:00] <liable> duri: what do you need?
[09:01] <Madpilot> sn9: not really, and confusing to new users
[09:01] <schizoid> Tolstoy: ok that looks right, ok one sec
[09:01] <sn9> starscalling: sudo apt-get build-deps xchat
[09:01] <deFrysk> -s
[09:01] <sn9> oops
[09:01] <duri> liable: I read that if I want gcc I need to get build-essentials ... are the other important metapackages to consider ?
[09:01] <starscalling> invalid operation build-deps
[09:01] <liable> duri: not really.
[09:01] <deFrysk> duild-dep
[09:01] <sn9> starscalling: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[09:01] <starscalling> let me pastebin this
[09:01] <starscalling> ah
[09:01] <duri> liable: thanks
[09:01] <deFrysk> d=b
[09:02] <bsd3> liable: I want to install [k] ubuntu to my laptop by mounting an ISO at a local machine
[09:02] <starscalling> lol unable to find a source package for xchat :P
[09:02] <liable> bsd3: you want to install kubuntu on a machine that has no cdrom drive?
[09:02] <Madpilot> starscalling: xchat is installed by default, you shouldn't need a source package...
[09:03] <bsd3> liable: yes, yes
[09:03] <sn9> starscalling: you need to have deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <liable> bsd3: does it have linux on it already?
[09:03] <bsd3> liable: yes, laptop have knoppix 3.3 running
[09:03] <sn9> starscalling: build-dep gets all the pkgs you need to build something
[09:03] <schizoid> Tolstoy: search for esd in synamapitc, and see if you have gstreamer0.8-esd installed
[09:03] <liable> bsd3: installed to hard drive?
[09:04] <starscalling> http://pastebin.com/395150 <<-- error at bottom :P
[09:04] <bsd3> liable: yes, dear
[09:04] <schizoid> Tolstoy: also gnome-media
[09:04] <Tolstoy> schizoid, oh, that was hours ago I did that!  Can't remember the result, though. ;)  and, yeah, gnome-media is installed.
[09:04] <starscalling> let me check my apt/sources
[09:04] <schizoid> Tolstoy: and gstreamer?
[09:04] <liable> bsd3: it has network acces?
[09:04] <badei> how can i share a dial-up connection but without a proxy(simple share so that other user who get internet acces from me to be abble playing online games, firestarter is sharing with proxy :()
[09:04] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeap. installed.
[09:05] <schizoid> liable: make sure glib and glib-dev are installed
[09:05] <bsd3> lible: yeah
[09:05] <liable> bsd3: follow this, gimme a yell if you get stuck  http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[09:05] <sn9> starscalling: build-dep will correct the error in your pastebin
[09:05] <badei> how can i share a dial-up connection but without a proxy(simple share so that other user who get internet acces from me to be abble playing online games, firestarter is sharing with proxy :()???????????????????????????
[09:05] <starscalling> o wow
[09:05] <liable> bsd3: i just had to install breezy the same way, debootstrap was failing, and this way is way easy..
[09:05] <starscalling> your totally right
[09:06] <starscalling> i needed to uncomment the sources
[09:06] <liable> schizoid: ??
[09:06] <starscalling> sorry and thankyou guys lots :)
[09:06] <schizoid> starscalling: did you get it working?
[09:06] <starscalling> apt-get build-dep works now :)
[09:06] <ethy> Hey, I'm trying to follow this HOWTO here (http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198), but when I get to step 3, I ran into the error "bash: ./ati-installer: No such file or directory". There are no error from the previous steps, anybody have any ideas?
[09:06] <starscalling> yeah a whole mess of things i need apparently
[09:06] <crimsun> ethy: why aren't you using wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowot?
[09:06] <starscalling> 38  :)
[09:07] <crimsun> Howto, rather
[09:07] <schizoid> liable: ok I'm going to find a esd mixer
[09:07] <liable> bsd3: if you are installing breezy, the ramdisk_size is wrong, but you can find that out.
[09:07] <bsd3> liable: my PXE bootstrap worked fine, i was on, but confused when it asked for a mirror site
[09:07] <hop-to-top> I want a small unbuntu install.. where can I find it?
[09:07] <Tolstoy> schizoid, what is it that plays sounds in the sound preferences dialog that's different than, say, nautilus, or even gdm, which plays a drumbeat when I log out, or what it repaints itself with a login screen?
[09:07] <liable> bsd3: try it, you only need the kernel and initrd installed to disk.
[09:07] <crimsun> hop-to-top: just choose the server option
[09:08] <schizoid> Tolstoy: gdm, so gnome
[09:08] <schizoid> Tolstoy: do you have polypaudio installed?
[09:08] <Tolstoy> yes.  I can try a re-installation.
[09:08] <bsd3> liable: will not an ISO mounted to a doc-root on another loacl machine work like a mirror?
[09:08] <schizoid> Tolstoy: humm take that out
[09:08] <hop-to-top> for some reason firefox cut out and only downloaded 423mb of the iso
[09:09] <hop-to-top> :-/
[09:09] <hop-to-top> so now I gotta start all over again
[09:09] <Tolstoy> schizoid, uninstall polypaudio?
[09:09] <[LethAL] > hop-to-top, use the torrent then :D
[09:09] <schizoid> Tolstoy: yes that conflicts, you only need one sound server
[09:09] <liable> bsd3: quite possibly, never done it myself so i cant say how to access it.
[09:09] <Tolstoy> schizoid, removing polypaudio also removes ubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <mahangu> how do install the w32 codecs deb?
[09:10] <cyphase> how do i open a printer up for sharing using ipp?
[09:10] <starscalling> !tell mahangu about win32deb
[09:10] <schizoid> Tolstoy: libpoyp0 or polypaudio ?
[09:10] <ethy> criumsun: 'Cause mlomker told me to try that to see if it works, if it does then he can find someone to put the .deb file on a web server. More info look (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=413496&postcount=59).
[09:10] <bsd3> liable: that wiki site at wiki.ubuntu.com does not have any such thing
[09:10] <crimsun> mahangu: add the debian-marillat repo and install w32codecs, then remove the debian-marillat repo
[09:10] <hop-to-top> I just want a small installable linux distro with X server, and pdf capabilities.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:10] <hop-to-top> and not DSL
[09:10] <Tolstoy> polupaudio.  should I remove libpoyp0?
[09:10] <mahangu> cyphase, heya :)
[09:10] <crimsun> ethy: use wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <cyphase> hey
[09:10] <liable> bsd3: if you got a decent connection, just do it the way that link says.
[09:10] <schizoid> Tolstoy: no leave libpoyp0
[09:10] <mahangu> crimsun, what's the repo uri?
[09:10] <crimsun> hop-to-top: damn small linux
[09:10] <mahangu> i mean i got the .deb
[09:11] <mahangu> cant i just install it?
[09:11] <bsd3> liable: le me try, i shall update the wiki pages on success
[09:11] <deFrysk> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[09:11] <crimsun> mahangu: sure, dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:11] <schizoid> Tolstoy: but polypaudio is universe I believe
[09:11] <[LethAL] > hop-to-top, you could install standard and work downwards, or use featherlinux or similar
[09:11] <hop-to-top> damn crimsun I just said NOT DSL
[09:11] <ofpc> Hello to all
[09:11] <ethy> crimsun: I was able to get my driver to work, I'm not trying to get my driver to work but rather help mlomker to test this particular method.
[09:11] <crimsun> hop-to-top: then why are you asking in #ubuntu? This is OFF-TOPIC.
[09:11] <schizoid> Tolstoy: ya polypaudio is universe so it shouldnt remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <Ruudi> hi
[09:11] <Ruudi> can i repair ext3 partition from my os x, i had to turn restart know, ext3 was mounted and woun't come up anymore, needs repair, but how to do it from os x? got no linux install left on that partition
[09:12] <Tolstoy> schizoid, well, sometimes things are weird.  I can remove polyp, which removes ubuntu-desktop, then I can isntall ubuntu-desktop, and polyp won't come along with it.
[09:12] <bsd3> quit
[09:12] <cyphase> How do I share a printer using IPP?
[09:12] <crimsun> ethy: beware of recommending methods that potentially clobber Ubuntu's packaging infrastructure.
[09:12] <schizoid> Tolstoy: ah revdep stuff... thats fine
[09:12] <ofpc> I need ask something. If I upgrade the Ubuntu hoary to Breezy... can I have problems now? and what about my files in the hard disk? that files will be delette?
[09:12] <crimsun> ofpc: read the topic.
[09:12] <schizoid> Tolstoy:  just note the packages for removal just to be safe
[09:12] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10, but Eagle USB doesn't work! I've previously downloaded it from source. With ubuntu 5.04 it worked fine and ./configure found all well. Instead, now ./configure says that: "Current GCC version is: 4.0. GCC version for kernel: 3.4. Fault".Help me, please!
[09:12] <Tolstoy> schizoid, now it wants to install esound instead.  interesting.
[09:13] <hop-to-top> grrr... all these small knoppix-like-distros but not a one of them has a decent install
[09:13] <hop-to-top> and logging into DSL is just plain messed up
[09:13] <crimsun> Alex_BO: install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, and gcc-3.4
[09:13] <schizoid> Tolstoy: ok let it do the esound bit
[09:13] <starscalling> !tell mahangu about w32deb
[09:13] <ethy> criumsun: I just did a clean reinstall of Ubuntu so I can test this method. I don't mind if the infastructure got messed up, I can always reinstall Ubuntu.
[09:13] <deFrysk> ofpc, I noticed that peaple who used the ubuntuguide and their backports had often probs with the upgrade
[09:13] <schizoid> Tolstoy: looks like you been playing to much in Universe :P
[09:14] <crimsun> ethy: yes, but other people who might not realize it will clobber the infrastructure won't be in-the-know.
[09:14] <mahangu> starscalling, thanks mate got it :)
[09:14] <dmlinux> For the life of me i cant get this damn mouse to work on login
[09:14] <mahangu> crimsun, thanks
[09:14] <starscalling> :P
[09:14] <Tolstoy> schizoid, yeah, and this isn't a fresh breezy install, so there's some mixup with a dist-upgrade, looks like.  praps.
[09:14] <Alex_BO> crimsun, i installed the headers, gcc-3.4 but not the build-essential.the gcc-3.4's package there's not in the installation CD!
[09:14] <schizoid> dmlinux: usb?
[09:14] <sn9> Alex_BO: i strongly recommend you get an ethernet modem
[09:14] <starscalling> if i could only find that configure shortcut keys thing again.. :P
[09:14] <schizoid> Tolstoy: ah that makes more sense then
[09:14] <dmlinux> schizoid Bluetooth mouse +  bluetooth internal card
[09:14] <Alex_BO> sn9, it worked fine with ubuntu hoary
[09:14] <crimsun> Alex_BO: you must download it and its dependencies. See http://packages.ubuntu.com/gcc-3.4
[09:14] <brandoo> hello
[09:15] <schizoid> dmlinux: hmmm thats going to be tough one
[09:15] <Alex_BO> crimsun, yeah.i downloaded it from debian.org with dependecies
[09:15] <crimsun> Alex_BO: NO, not debian.org.
[09:15] <ofpc> deFrysk: Oh.. and what do you think I can do?.. what you do? did you upgrade your Ubuntu?
[09:15] <crimsun> Alex_BO: ubuntu.com.
[09:15] <dmlinux> schizoid yeah and its a Microsoft bluetooth mouse, so there is absolutley NO support for it
[09:15] <dmlinux> schizoid this sucks :P
[09:15] <deFrysk> ofpc, yes but never used ubuntuguide or their backports
[09:15] <Alex_BO> crimsun, what's the difference?
[09:15] <flask-> Hi I was wondering if someone could please help me diagnose my sound issues on Breezy?
[09:15] <Tolstoy> schizoid, okay, now it works.  phew!  sheesh. what a slog!
[09:16] <brandoo> Just installed Ubuntu removing SuSE but the systems pretty crap after the installation -- things don't work too well.... anyone have problems with Java + Firefox?
[09:16] <schizoid> dmlinux: no blue tooth is just a bit hard to get going, is there a bluetooth how to on the forums?
[09:16] <crimsun> Alex_BO: Don't use debian.org packages, since they may have different dependencies.
[09:16] <sn9> flask-: what soundcard?
[09:16] <crimsun> Alex_BO: always use ubuntu.com packages first.
[09:16] <bigboyroy> im having trouble installing gcc from the installation cd on ubuntu 5.04
[09:16] <dmlinux> schizoid yes but it doesnt work
[09:16] <schizoid> Tolstoy: ;)
[09:16] <flask-> sn9: VIA
[09:16] <[LethAL] > !bluetooth
[09:16] <ubotu> Not a clue, [LethAL] 
[09:16] <[LethAL] > :(
[09:16] <bigboyroy> it says its not on the cd..
[09:16] <crimsun> flask-: what's the issue?
[09:16] <bigboyroy> :?
[09:16] <crimsun> bigboyroy: gcc-3.4 is not on the CD; it's in the main repo.
[09:16] <Alex_BO> crimsun, okey.thanks.now i'm gonna install all things and i will say you then.thank you
[09:16] <schizoid> dmlinux: hmm can you send me the link?
[09:16] <bigboyroy> repo?
[09:17] <crimsun> bigboyroy: repository.
[09:17] <bigboyroy> ohh
[09:17] <bigboyroy> ok thnx
[09:17] <dmlinux> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21723.html
[09:17] <flask-> crimsum: at this point i'm not even sure. dmesg shows the ALSA kernel drivers are recognizing the card but whether i try to output through ESD or not (from whatever application) I get no sound
[09:17] <ofpc> deFrysk and where I can find Breezy repository?... And sorry I am from Chile but if i ask in spanish site every people beliebe is good idea work with ubuntuguide.. So I log here
[09:17] <RobinLionheart> On upgrading to breezy, it asked to overwrite the changes I made to esd.conf for Hoary as instructed by ubuntuguide.org.
[09:17] <dmlinux> schizoid i can make it connect, but i had to write a script and have to click it everytime i login, and type in my password
[09:17] <crimsun> flask-: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:18] <sn9> !tell ofpc about ubuntuguide
[09:18] <deFrysk> ofpc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:18] <flask-> crimsun: no such file or directory
[09:18] <crimsun> flask-: then ALSA wasn't loaded properly. What's the output from: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[09:18] <schizoid> dmlinux: do you get mouse support when your connected?
[09:18] <cmatheson> hey guys, i plugged in my camera but it doesn't detect a /dev/sda1 like it used to on hoary... it just sees 'new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd' and that's it... could there be something i need to do to force it to see the camera?
[09:18] <Hmmmm> can someone give me a well-configured breezy sources.list?
[09:18] <crimsun> cmatheson: lsmod|grep ^sd_mod
[09:19] <crimsun> !tell Hmmmm about repos
[09:19] <flask-> crimsun: 0000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[09:19] <deFrysk> ofpc, and stay ways away from ubuntuguide and their breaking suggestions
[09:19] <cmatheson> crimsun: nope, i'll try modprobe'ing it
[09:19] <hop-to-top> <<trying vectorlinux
[09:19] <schizoid> dmlinux: what I mean is if you run that all by hand it works?
[09:19] <crimsun> flask-: lsmod|grep ^snd_via82xx
[09:19] <Madpilot> cmatheson: start gThumb and check it, it should have "Import From Camera" somewhere - I think in the File menu...
[09:19] <dmlinux> schizoid no , i can click the left and right mouse buttons, and move around, but the scroll wheel doesnt work , and the forward and back buttons dont work
[09:19] <flask-> crimsun: scroll up, already said dmesg reports it's fine
[09:19] <schizoid> dmlinux: ahh thats 2 issues then
[09:19] <flask-> crimsun: #2: VIA 82C686A/B rev50 with ICE1232 at 0xa000, irq 9
[09:20] <dmlinux> schizoid it works as if we were back in 1995 in windows 3.1
[09:20] <schizoid> dmlinux:  how do you setup your X config?
[09:20] <crimsun> flask-: that has nothing to do with the command I just gave you.
[09:20] <cmatheson> Madpilot: wow that did work... i wonder how i can do it manually next time though
[09:20] <dmlinux> schizoid do you have a Bluetooth mouse?
[09:20] <RobinLionheart> def: I feel like I should have backed out all the ubuntuguide changes I made to hoary config files before upgrading.
[09:20] <Hmmmm> crimsun, any ide if java1.5 is on any repository?
[09:20] <cmatheson> crimsun: i added the sd_mod thing but that still didn't bring it up.. maybe i needed usb-storage too?
[09:20] <ofpc> deFrysk You sourprised me which that... But i have some troubles in the past with ub8ntu guide.. So I beliebe in your words.. Thanks.. I will try far of that
[09:20] <flask-> crimsun: ah my bad. i'm not using modules, so that command doens't apply.
[09:20] <crimsun> cmatheson: yes, you do.
[09:20] <schizoid> dmlinux:  do but the wheel issue is X related
[09:20] <drcode> hi all
[09:20] <schizoid> dmlinux: do =no
[09:20] <sn9> !tell Hmmmm about w32deb
[09:21] <cmatheson> crimsun: ok, any others perhaps?
[09:21] <drcode> any one know if with tar and tape I can make volumes in same backup tape?
[09:21] <crimsun> flask-: using your own kernel? How can we possibly support manual configurations? There are a plethora of possible screwups.
[09:21] <cmatheson> crimsun: actaully, i guess i'll just diff the list of modules before running the gthumb thing next time
[09:21] <crimsun> cmatheson: not off the top of my head.
[09:21] <deFrysk> ofpc, if you did use ubuntuguide and the backports in hoary you might get into trouble with upgrading , just so that you know...
[09:21] <dmlinux> schizoid pasting now, giving url in a sec
[09:21] <Madpilot> cmatheson: no idea, I don't own a digicam but a friend brought their camera over a while ago - gThumb found it right away...
[09:21] <cmatheson> crimsun: oh ok thanks
[09:21] <sn9> Hmmmm: java 1.5 is at the w32codec liknk
[09:21] <cmatheson> Madpilot: yeah that worked like magic
[09:21] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok I'll edit for you then point out the changes
[09:21] <dmlinux> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3168
[09:21] <Hmmmm> sn9, thanks i 'll cehck it out
[09:21] <flask-> crimsun: i'm not asking for the ubuntu team to support it, i came here looking for community support/advice
[09:22] <crimsun> flask-: if you don't the standard kernel, it's difficult to know where things could have gone wrong.
[09:22] <schizoid> dmlinux:  this a notebook?
[09:22] <crimsun> don't use^
[09:22] <dmlinux> schizoid correct
[09:22] <flask-> crimsun: it worked fine w/ the same kernel under hoary
[09:22] <schizoid> dmlinux: does the touchpad work?
[09:22] <Madpilot> cmatheson: gThumb is a great little app, does lots of useful things ;)
[09:23] <Hmmmm> sn9, but if i may ask, why arent java and w32 on the regular repositories?
[09:23] <dmlinux> schizoid yes, but the scroll function doesnt
[09:23] <[LethAL] > Legal issues
[09:23] <crimsun> flask-: the same kernel? And which one is that?
[09:23] <flask-> crimsun: i built it from vanilla sources
[09:23] <schizoid> dmlinux: on the touch pad or the mouse or both?
[09:23] <cyphase> are their any plans to work on printer sharing in ubuntu?
[09:23] <dmlinux> schizoid Both,
[09:23] <RobinLionheart> I'll have to take a look at gThumb. So many little apps I've overlooked. I tried qalculate the other day, holy moly!
[09:23] <Murph> Hi
[09:23] <cyphase> it's easily the most annoying thing
[09:23] <sn9> cyphase: printers can already be shared
[09:24] <brandoo>  flask- why not try the default ubuntu kernel - you have any issues when using that (with sound)
[09:24] <cyphase> i know
[09:24] <RobinLionheart> That is the paragon of calculator accessories
[09:24] <crimsun> flask-: so post your .config somewhere. You really need to help the troubleshooting process...
[09:24] <cyphase> but you have to edit text files
[09:24] <arkais> hello
[09:24] <cyphase> or use webmin
[09:24] <cyphase> or whatever
[09:24] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok lets deal with one at a time mouse first?
[09:24] <dmlinux> schizoid ok
[09:24] <Murph> I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.1 on my friend's laptop, and it is going insanely slow, does anyone know why?
[09:24] <ofpc> deFrysk: Yes.. In the past i have problems with Hoary and Firefox because every day Firefox want upgrade but that can't work.. And i dellette backport and that never give me another problem... The site you send me also don't want come :(
[09:24] <sn9> Murph: there is no 5.1
[09:24] <dmlinux> schizoid im not too concerned with touchpad, but mouse has been a pain in my ass
[09:25] <cyphase> it should be an option in the main Printer GUI
[09:25] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok how many buttons do you have on the mouse? and it is working manual though right now just no wheel ?
[09:25] <starscalling> i did something really stupid !_!
[09:25] <[LethAL] > Murph, something to do with DMA not being enabled
[09:25] <dmlinux> schizoid ill link my mouse
[09:25] <starscalling> somehow my screen blinks whenever a certain type of event happens
[09:25] <schizoid> dmlinux: sorry I ask alot of questions is anoying I know :P
[09:25] <starscalling> like whan i tab complete for directories/files
[09:25] <schizoid> dmlinux:  kk
[09:25] <starscalling> !_!
[09:25] <ubotu> Wish i knew, starscalling
[09:25] <dmlinux> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71914
[09:25] <starscalling> or when my nick is said in irc
[09:26] <arkais>  i had a hoary now i have breezy but, my sound car doesn't work, but when i had hoary this sounda card works, and usplash doesn't work, what can i do?
[09:26] <Murph> do you know what command I could use to make it work?
[09:26] <Murph> if there is one
[09:26] <ofpc>  deFrysk: sorry.. That can be a problem in computer just right now because don't want see also google and  other sidtes.. But rally thanks about your help
[09:27] <arkais> @google usplash
[09:27] <[LethAL] > Murph, no, I've never fiddled with HDParm
[09:27] <deFrysk> starscalling, system>prefs/soun prefs sytem beel tab turn off visual feedback
[09:27] <dmlinux> schizoid lets see, left, middle, right, wheeldown, wheelup, wheelleft, wheelright, back, forward
[09:27] <schizoid> dmlinux: rolf
[09:27] <dmlinux> schizoid 9
[09:27] <deFrysk> starscalling, system>prefs/sound prefs sytem bell tab turn off visual feedback
[09:27] <deFrysk> darn typo's
[09:27] <sn9> Murph: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[09:27] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok I'm going to edit your xorg.conf
[09:27] <dmlinux> schizoid ok
[09:28] <schizoid> dmlinux: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3169 ok your mouse might act super wierd or it might not, but use all the buttons in a scrollable area till it scrolls
[09:29] <faken_> hi
[09:29] <dmlinux> schizoid the only thing you changed was the mouse area correct
[09:29] <crimsun> flask-: ping me when you're ready.
[09:29] <schizoid> dmlinux: correct only the Zaxis
[09:30] <faken_> i think i installaed all packages to get mp3 support but i youst get mp3 support in tomtem xmms still dont play mp3s ?
[09:30] <schizoid> dmlinux: mainly this way every key is mapped to scroll your wheel should work
[09:31] <crimsun> faken_: XMMS plays mp3s just fine.
[09:31] <wickedpuppy> faken_, you got gstreamer ?
[09:31] <dmlinux> schizoid do i have to restart X
[09:31] <starscalling> thankyou deFrysk !
[09:31] <deFrysk> starscalling, yw ;)
[09:31] <schizoid> dmlinux: np, if X fail to load revert to 4 5
[09:31] <starscalling> ;)
[09:31] <faken_> jes i installed gstreamer
[09:31] <Murph> says it cannot find kernel image hdparm
[09:32] <dmlinux> schizoid dont know what that means, but ill brb
[09:32] <sn9> Murph: no, type that at a shell
[09:32] <_BIJ_> Hi@All
[09:32] <faken_> is there any extra package for mp3 support for xmms ?
[09:32] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok
[09:32] <deFrysk> faken_, xmms-mad perhaps ?
[09:32] <crimsun> no, XMMS has support for mp3s by default.
[09:33] <deFrysk> crimsun, ok
[09:33] <starscalling> deFrysk: if im running a program and about to make install a new version of it do i need to exit the program before i do that?
[09:33] <_BIJ_> ok the new final breezy is nice... but there is one thing that i search... how can i activate the command "open console" if i press the right mouse button on the desktop
[09:33] <starscalling> and is there a way for me to keep track so i can reverse changes if needed?
[09:33] <sn9> starscalling: depends on the program
[09:33] <[LethAL] > starscalling, no, but you won't see the changes
[09:33] <deFrysk> starscalling, make install ?
[09:34] <[LethAL] > starscalling, usually, anyway
[09:34] <starscalling> yeah doing a make install
[09:34] <[LethAL] > That's not a question :P
[09:34] <_BIJ_> in all former versions this was the standard
[09:34] <deFrysk> starscalling, why not use the packages of the repositories ?
[09:34] <sn9> starscalling: you're not replacing the old one anyway
[09:34] <starscalling> so to get it back out i would ahve to apt-get remove --purge ?
[09:34] <starscalling> because i want 2.4.5 with its features :P
[09:34] <faken_> if i go to the plugins of xmms there is a mpeg 1/2/3 player libmpg123
[09:34] <sn9> starscalling: that removes the old one
[09:35] <Madpilot> starscalling: why are you doing compiling something that's included in Ubuntu by default?
[09:35] <starscalling> because ubuntu includes 2.4.4
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> Get:1 http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe cdrdao 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu3 [382kB] 
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> Fetched 176B in 0s (268B/s)
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> Failed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/cdrdao/cdrdao_1.1.9-3ubuntu3_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[09:35] <starscalling> :)
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> anyone knows why i am getting this ?
[09:35] <[LethAL] > wickedpuppy, no pasting!
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> i can't burn .bin .cue because of it
[09:35] <crimsun> wickedpuppy: use a different mirror.
[09:35] <deFrysk> faken_, do you use kde ?
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> [LethAL] , its ok .. more than 3 lines than the rule will hold
[09:35] <sn9> wickedpuppy: bad mirror. usea different country
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> i am in singapore ...
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> lol
[09:36] <Sionide> its their mistake, not yours
[09:36] <starscalling> hrm
[09:36] <faken_> no gnome
[09:36] <[LethAL] > So? I use the Irish mirrors and I'm from England...
[09:36] <sn9> wickedpuppy: pick a neighboring country
[09:36] <deFrysk> faken_, is the output of xmms set to esd ?
[09:37] <Sionide> alsa > esd
[09:37] <starscalling> sn9: you said if i make install im not replacing the old one anyway? that would only happen if i made a package out of it or something? so if i have trouble from my make-install how do i get it out of my system?
[09:37] <_BIJ_> ok the new final breezy is nice... but there is one thing that i search... how can i activate the command "open console" if i press the right mouse button on the desktop
[09:37] <_BIJ_> ???
[09:37] <[LethAL] > !tell _BIJ_ about terminal
[09:38] <[LethAL] > _BIJ_, read the bottom of that PM
[09:38] <sn9> starscalling: you shouldn't make pkgs out of stuff that puts itself in /usr/local
[09:38] <brandoo> anyone here ever use skillport?
[09:38] <starscalling> heh
[09:38] <liable> starscalling: if its halfway dexcent you should be able to make uninstall..
[09:38] <starscalling> yeah i tend to agree with oyu there..
[09:39] <starscalling> really liable ? so just keep the directory i " did the make install" from?
[09:39] <deFrysk> starscalling, just make sure that if you like compiling stuff yourself not to come here to ask how to fix broken stuff ;)
[09:39] <starscalling> deFrysk: im fine with that.. i just want to know how to remove it ;)
[09:39] <starscalling> or if i can tell it to install to a custom directory or something ^^;;
[09:40] <liable> starscalling: you can also run make -n install and see where stuff goes..
[09:40] <deFrysk> starscalling, usually without the uninstall option is search and distroy
[09:40] <starscalling> o.O
[09:40] <liable> starscalling: then remove..
[09:40] <PlutoPrime> starscalling, unless there is an uninstall script you have to manually delete it
[09:40] <zcat[1] > hmm.. installing edubuntu-desktop wants to remove four packages .. I guess the OOo thesaurus wasn't educational enough :)
[09:40] <starscalling> i see
[09:40] <PlutoPrime> that's why we use repositories.. to remove things cleanly
[09:40] <starscalling> i suppose its not easy to make my own uninstall script :P
[09:40] <sn9> starscalling: it's too late for a custom dir, which you shouldn't use anyway
[09:40] <marko> hello
[09:40] <starscalling> yeah
[09:40] <DMFDSandman> if i am getting a program for ubuntu do i need to look for .deb files?
[09:40] <PlutoPrime> you can also try building packages for personal use with "checkinstall"
[09:40] <sn9> DMFDSandman: yes
[09:40] <deFrysk> starscalling, just be patient ;)
[09:40] <marko> would anyone know where I can find descent apt sources for unbuntu 64b?
[09:41] <starscalling> hum
[09:41] <liable> DMFDSandman: preferably
[09:41] <starscalling> i might
[09:41] <starscalling> i just might
[09:41] <deFrysk> lol
[09:41] <marko> :)
[09:41] <liable> DMFDSandman: but of course you can compile
[09:41] <starscalling> ..............
[09:41] <RobinLionheart> Yeah, for some reason the OOo thesaurus pkg is wants to uninstall OOo 2, so it's got to go
[09:41] <PlutoPrime> starscalling, checkinstall lets you make a deb package from the sourcefile.. it's just one command
[09:41] <starscalling> of COURSE you can compile :P
[09:41] <starscalling> oooo
[09:41] <starscalling> i have source i think
[09:41] <DMFDSandman> thanks, im a noob so i would like to make it as easy as possible
[09:41] <coz> Hello all
[09:42] <seekerr> Hello
[09:42] <starscalling> ok ill check out checkinstall then thanx PlutoPrime :)
[09:42] <RobinLionheart> Seems like the OOo1 hyphenation dictionaries can go too, they don't seem to be active in OOo 2
[09:42] <coz> I tooo am a unix/linux noob
[09:42] <zcat[1] > seriously; add a few repo's and almost _everything_ is available through synaptic.. you very rarely have to install anything by hand, even deb's ..
[09:42] <dmlinux> schizoid that sucked.. my mouse buttons on Alps touchpad ANDmy mouse didnt work after that
[09:42] <PlutoPrime> yup yup
[09:42] <coz> I have been working with ubuntu for a month now.
[09:42] <deFrysk> starscalling, compiling is fine but if you come here to ask how to compile and how to remove ....something tells me you are better off not compiling
[09:43] <starscalling> hehe
[09:43] <coz> I finally got my dvd's to ply on breezy
[09:43] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok let me re-edit, I was a bit extreme
[09:43] <starscalling> but how else can i learn DeFi  :p
[09:43] <starscalling> er
[09:43] <starscalling> deFrysk:
[09:43] <seekerr> I've been working with Ubuntu for awhile now.. About a month after it came out.
[09:43] <drcode> hi all
[09:43] <dmlinux> schizoid definatly not fun not being able to clickanything
[09:43] <deFrysk> starscalling, do some reading
[09:43] <coz> Now I need to have just two othere things accomplished to kkep me from going back to BeOs
[09:43] <yapyccky> hello everyone, how is possible that with no programs open on my ubuntu, he's using almost all mem and 25% of swap?? is is normal??
[09:43] <drcode> any idea how I create multivolume with afio?
[09:43] <starscalling> yeah
[09:43] <deFrysk> starscalling, and why do you think packages are made ?
[09:43] <starscalling> but now i know WHAT to read :P
[09:43] <RobinLionheart> There's a dictionary installing wizard in OOo 2 you can use to select and download dictionaries, thesauruses, and hyphenation dicts, but unless you run it as root they're only for one user
[09:43] <schizoid> dmlinux: :) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3170
[09:43] <coz> first does anyone know, in detail, how to play .mid files on Breezy?
[09:43] <drcode> I am using ind /home/user -print | afio -ovZ -b 32k /dev/tape
[09:44] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok that will give you 1 and 2 back
[09:44] <PlutoPrime> dmlinux, I made some useful posts on ubuntu forums regarding alps touchpad.. search for my username there
[09:44] <zcat[1] > yapyccky: that's normal if you have about 32M of ram, but not otherwise..
[09:44] <starscalling> thats exactly why i thought they were... that and to accurately track versions that play well together
[09:44] <coz>  I have installed and tried everything
[09:44] <sn9> yapyccky: not normal
[09:44] <yapyccky> zcat[1]  : i've 512 mg ram
[09:44] <starscalling> but there are certain things i use a lot that i want updated to latest :)
[09:44] <drcode> I am using find /home/user -print | afio -ovZ -b 32k /dev/tape I want also to use multivolume
[09:44] <zcat[1] > Yeah, NOT normal..
[09:44] <cjhcjhcjh> Old machine; the desktop is too slow/bloated; can I tune it, or should I give up and change to a smaller desktop system?
[09:44] <[LethAL] > yapyccky, definately NOT normal
[09:44] <deFrysk> starscalling, if you like compiling try gentoo its a compilers heaven
[09:44] <yapyccky> ic...what can I do? what can be the reason?
[09:44] <dmlinux> schizoid when i XEV 1 and 3 are left and right mouse buttons
[09:44] <starscalling> lol
[09:45] <starscalling> gentoo != debian
[09:45] <[LethAL] > cjhcjhcjh, remove gnome and use xfce/xubuntu instead
[09:45] <zcat[1] > run 'top' and see what's eating everything I guess
[09:45] <[LethAL] > starscalling, well duh
[09:45] <dmlinux> schizoid so im going to make it 2 4 5 6 7 8 9
[09:45] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok good stuff
[09:45] <Alex_BO> crimsun, it doesn't work... the gcc used for the kernel is 3.4.5, yours is 4.0. failed
[09:45] <ian> Noob in distress - currently battling with an ubuntu installation on a win98 lappy which does not have any bootable devices (No CDROM, no floopy, BIOS does not support PXE). Following the guides on the wiki and trying to use GRUB4DOS, but for some reason any changes I make to my boot.ini file are being totaly ignored...anybody with the patience to walk me through this...?
[09:45] <starscalling> and ill try regular debian before i mess with gentoo
[09:45] <starscalling> [again] 
[09:45] <starscalling> :P
[09:45] <crimsun> Alex_BO: huh?
[09:45] <dmlinux> shizoid ok brb
[09:45] <Alex_BO> crimsun, yes
[09:45] <schizoid> dmlinux: but your getting the idea, right?
[09:45] <crimsun> Alex_BO: you need to install gcc-3.4, not gcc-4.0
[09:45] <dmlinux> schizoid yeah but im not sure if this will work
[09:46] <Sianis> hi all!
[09:46] <Sianis> pls elp me!
[09:46] <crimsun> Alex_BO: build-essential will install gcc-4.0, but you should install gcc-3.4 afterward
[09:46] <Sianis> when i run apt-get update
[09:46] <Alex_BO> crimsun, i have installed 3.4
[09:46] <Sianis> a recive this mesage : W: GPG error: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: A kvetkez alrsok rvnytelenek: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:46] <Sianis> what is this?
[09:46] <crimsun> Alex_BO: so gcc-3.4 should give you output
[09:46] <Alex_BO> crimsun, how can i check this output
[09:46] <seekerr> lol
[09:46] <Alex_BO> crimsun,
[09:46] <cjhcjhcjh> [LethAL] , thx
[09:46] <crimsun> Alex_BO: in a Terminal, gcc-3.4
[09:46] <ian> pretty please...
[09:46] <crimsun> (don't paste here)
[09:46] <seekerr> I thought I knew alot of ubuntu til I came in here
[09:46] <seekerr> hehe
[09:47] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[09:47] <liable> Alex_BO: dpkg -l gcc-3.4 whats it say?
[09:47] <dazvid> Im having a problem starting xserver when booting breezy. By problem
[09:47] <dazvid> I mean its not starting at all
[09:47] <yapyccky> i dont understend, with TOP just 4.6 % of memory for Xorg, and 2.1 % for xhat..
[09:47] <crimsun> dazvid: /var/log/Xorg.0.log has clues.
[09:47] <schizoid> ian: does a grub prompt come up?
[09:47] <yapyccky> nothing serious i guess
[09:47] <[LethAL] > yapyccky, use ps -aux instead maybe
[09:47] <yapyccky> but freee tellls me the situation is bad.
[09:47] <ian> schizoid: Nope just boots straight back into Win98
[09:47] <brandoo> how can I make the lo interface start automatically?
[09:47] <Sianis> a recive this mesage : W: GPG error: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: A kvetkez alrsok rvnytelenek: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:48] <dazvid> ok, how am I to know how to fix it when I read this log file though
[09:48] <Sianis> pls help me
[09:48] <crimsun> yapyccky: what's wrong with the situation?
[09:48] <Alex_BO> crimsun, $gcc-3.4    no-input-file
[09:48] <Sianis> if i delete this key
[09:48] <crimsun> dazvid: paste it onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:48] <schizoid> ian: no grub at all on boot that you see?
[09:48] <Sianis> after can work the apt-get?
[09:48] <crimsun> Alex_BO: good. Now export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:48] <ian> schizoid: Nope
[09:48] <yapyccky> crimsun : free
[09:48] <yapyccky>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:48] <yapyccky> Mem:        516192     507776       8416          0      55440     233500
[09:48] <yapyccky> -/+ buffers/cache:     218836     297356
[09:48] <yapyccky> Swap:       104380      12532      91848
[09:48] <[LethAL] > Sianis, use a different mirror
[09:48] <dazvid> crimsun: Im on windows atm, because I cant get into ubuntu, so its quite the predicament
[09:48] <deFrysk> oeh!
[09:49] <crimsun> yapyccky: (don't paste here). What's wrong with that? You have 297356 KB of reclaimable memory.
[09:49] <coz> sianis the link may be dead  it should be listed in repositories if that is what you are talking about
[09:49] <schizoid> ian: hmm some reason grub is not installing to boot sector? do you have virsus protection?
[09:49] <Sianis> so delete this key, and try again?
[09:49] <yapyccky> crimsun : sorry, didnt know about past..
[09:49] <Miksu> hi!
[09:49] <[LethAL] > Sianis, choose a new mirror, as I said
[09:49] <[LethAL] > !tell Sianis about mirror
[09:50] <coz> Welll if it is a repositort and you are on breezy just uncheck the repository link you cn always rechec it again
[09:50] <ian> schizoid: No, given that I've modified boot.ini I should at least see something though right?
[09:50] <mcadory> sianis search ubuntuforums.org
[09:50] <brandoo> is there any way to make lo start automatically so I can log in to gnome without any hastle?
[09:50] <Miksu> i have a INTERFACES file which i intend to use to create a network bridge. could someone familiar with INTERFACES and BRIDGE-UTILS have a look at it?
[09:50] <deFrysk> yapyccky, unused memory is wasted memory
[09:50] <Alex_BO> crimsun, okey. it says that i need gcc 3.4.5
[09:50] <dodgyville> Hi, when I go to compile stuff, I keep getting errors like "stdio.h: No such file or directory". Does ubuntu have all the right dev files installed?
[09:50] <liable> ian: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[09:50] <dmlinux> schizoid i tried 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 and no clicks, and 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and no clicks, trying 6 7 8 9 4 5
[09:50] <schizoid> ian: can you pass me the link you are using please
[09:50] <crimsun> Alex_BO: why?
[09:50] <[LethAL] > !tell dodgyville about be
[09:51] <seekerr> Alrighty folks I'm gonnd go.. I hope you all get this stuff worked out..lol
[09:51] <seekerr> adioes
[09:51] <Alex_BO> crimsun, i don't know why
[09:51] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok
[09:51] <yapyccky> crimsun : u mean its not unnormal to use so much memory just for xchat and 2 gnome-terminals?
[09:51] <ian> liable: Thanks, think I've tried all the options thier will double check...
[09:51] <crimsun> Alex_BO: did you export CC=gcc-3.4 as I suggested?
[09:51] <Alex_BO> crimsun, yes
[09:51] <dodgyville> [LethAL] : Thanks, I suspected as much
[09:51] <crimsun> yapyccky: it's absolutely normal
[09:51] <ian> schizois: sure, gimme a sec
[09:51] <[LethAL] > dodgyville ;-)
[09:51] <ian> schizoid: sure gimme a sec
[09:51] <Madpilot> yapyccky: most of that memory use is probably in cache anyway
[09:51] <crimsun> yapyccky: Linux aggressively caches, which eats your free memory.
[09:52] <[LethAL] > Caching kernel? O.O
[09:52] <crimsun> Alex_BO: and does the script honor $CC?
[09:52] <Alex_BO> echo $CC    gcc-3.4
[09:52] <Alex_BO> crimsun, well.i don't know
[09:52] <yapyccky> ahh..ok...so, sorry for question, i thought it was not normal.
[09:52] <Miksu> could someone please have a look at my finished and ready for testing interfaces file to verify it is correct?
[09:52] <fangorious> any way to set amarok as the default media player in breezy? so that when i hit the media player button on my keyboard amarok launches instead of rhythmbox?
[09:52] <crimsun> Alex_BO: whatever you're trying to do needs to honor the $CC variable, else you need to hardcode it into the Makefile
[09:52] <liable> Miksu: paste it
[09:53] <zcat[1] > there's simlinks in /usr/bin for gcc and cpp.. remove and redirect them to the appropriate versions of gcc/cpp
[09:53] <Miksu> liable where?
[09:53] <liable> !tell Miksu about paste
[09:53] <crimsun> zcat[1] : absolutely not.
[09:53] <zcat[1] > no?
[09:53] <crimsun> no, DON'T do that
[09:53] <zcat[1] > what's it break?
[09:53] <crimsun> the build environment
[09:53] <ian_> schizoid: I know this if written for XP, but I've tried to tweak it for Win98...
[09:53] <Stricklin> If sda1 and sda5 are my system volume and Windows volume in that order, may I have them not appear on my desktop?
[09:53] <[LethAL] > fangorious, you could remove rhythmbox and make a symlink in /usr/bin called rhythmnbox...
[09:53] <DMFDSandman> should i get a file for debian 2.1 or 3+?
[09:53] <zcat[1] > ahh.. worked for me :)
[09:54] <Alex_BO> crimsun, if i write ./configure -h, i can see that i can set CC variable
[09:54] <crimsun> zcat[1] : the correct way is to set CC and CPP
[09:54] <sn9> DMFDSandman: 3.1 or 3.2
[09:54] <DMFDSandman> sn9, thanks
[09:54] <zcat[1] > ahhh, ok :)
[09:54] <crimsun> Alex_BO: so did you CC=gcc-3.4 CPP=cpp-3.4 ./configure [...] ?
[09:55] <dmlinux> schizoid still no scroll fucntiion
[09:55] <sn9> DMFDSandman: preferably more recent
[09:55] <Alex_BO> crimsun, i didn't set CPP.let me set it
[09:55] <Miksu> MY FILE IS : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3171
[09:55] <coz> I am haveing great difficulty trying to get .mid files to play on breezy and help would appreciated
[09:55] <ian_> schizoid / liable: I have also tried using loadlin...but the installation throws a Kernel Panick, getting the exact error msg now.
[09:55] <sn9> DMFDSandman: what are you looking for a .deb of?
[09:55] <crimsun> coz: are you using timidity or fluidsynth, or does your hardware have native support?
[09:56] <coz> I am using timidty and a host of other apps as well
[09:56] <schizoid> ian_: loadlin proably wont work on XP. do you have those grub instructions?
[09:56] <coz> I am a neeo b so be gentle
[09:56] <coz> noob
[09:56] <benplaut> Quake ROCKS :D
[09:56] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok i'm going to google
[09:56] <hop-to-top> anyone have any experience with vector linux?
[09:56] <deFrysk> hop-to-top, off topic
[09:56] <dmlinux>                  schizoid ok trying somemore combos
[09:56] <benplaut> hop-to-top: why ask in here?
[09:56] <ian_> schizoid: Im running Win98 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[09:57] <hop-to-top> shrug..
[09:57] <hop-to-top> win98 is offtopic to
[09:57] <schizoid> ian_: ok win98 does not use boot.ini ... pretty sure about that.
[09:57] <liable> ian_: did you try loadlin
[09:57] <liable> ?
[09:58] <deFrysk> hop-to-top, if you have probs with grub with booting vector-linux and ubuntu you are on topic ;)
[09:58] <Miksu> liable did you get that?
[09:58] <Alex_BO> crimsun, i set it, but it doesn't work. there are other variables, like CFLAG and CPPFLAG
[09:58] <ian_> liable: yes it throws a kernel panick during the installation...getting the exact error msg for you now
[09:58] <crimsun> hop-to-top: not if (s)he's using win9x to bootstrap a Ubuntu installation
[09:58] <crimsun> Alex_BO: disregard CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS
[09:59] <crimsun> Alex_BO: the important one is CC. Try editing the Makefile directly
[09:59] <brandoo> how can I make the lo interface start automatically?
[09:59] <crimsun> Alex_BO: or at least changing Makefile.in
[09:59] <sn9> brandoo: it's supposed to by default
[09:59] <liable> Miksu: i have never seen an interfaces file like that, i dont really know what to say. I cant even look at my default one, as i overwrote it. sorry
[09:59] <brandoo> sn9, yeah, but it doesn't and gnome wont work till it's started.
[09:59] <crimsun> brandoo: you should have auto lo in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:00] <[LethAL] > sudo ifup lo?
[10:00] <schizoid> ian_: http://www.geocities.com/lode_leroy/grubinstall/
[10:00] <Miksu> liable yeah it is sort of complicated.
[10:00] <jorg> hello
[10:00] <Miksu> is anyone a Pro with interfaces and bridge-utils
[10:00] <brandoo> [LethAL] , thats kinda dumb to do after each reboot you think? would be nice if it just worked no?
[10:00] <sn9> brandoo: check /etc/network/interfaces
[10:00] <DMFDSandman> does anyone know if wine lets you install ventrilo?
[10:00] <Stricklin> Can I go back and change a partition setup after the install?
[10:01] <[LethAL] > Yeah, I know, but since the permanent solution was alllready mentioned :P
[10:01] <Miksu> could a Network Pro have a look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3171
[10:02] <benplaut> anyone know how to remove "applications" from the top menu?
[10:02] <benplaut> *menu set
[10:02] <cjhcjhcjh> problem with add applications, gave an error with "underlying sudo", now running add app or synaptic does nothing
[10:03] <RobinLionheart> Yes! Finally, my hp pavilion ze5600's wireless is working!
[10:03] <ian_> liable: after trying loadlin : loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw - I get Kernel Panick - not synching:VFS: Unable to mount root FS on unknows block (0,0)
[10:03] <liable> Miksu: i think you need a seperate part for each interface, i would be surprised if grouping them together like you have will work. where did you get the info for a layout like that from? look at man interfaces.
[10:04] <liable> Miksu: what distro have you come from?
[10:04] <liable> ian_: is your windows partion hda1?
[10:05] <ian_> liable: Sorry, I dont know...
[10:05] <ian_> liable: How to check?
[10:05] <liable> ian_: its the only drive, and there is only C drive?
[10:06] <lsuactiafner> how do i make an /etc/export rw so that a remote pc and mount and change anything?
[10:06] <dmlinux> schizoid anything? i still couldnt get it
[10:06] <Miksu> liable the interfaces are grouped just like that since the auto is a pre-interfaces run init argument. i did it myself with help from the bridge-utils website and info interfaces info ipconfig info iwconfig. i just started using linux a few weeks ago
[10:06] <sn9> lsuactiafner: use rw instead of ro
[10:06] <Miksu> liable the preview got released about the time i got into linux
[10:06] <lsuactiafner> ian_ : filesystem error.. or disk error, either you partitioned wrong, or your disk is currupt, or the driver for the disk aint loading
[10:06] <ian_> liable: yes only 1 drive and there is only C. There is 2GB of unallocated / unpartitioned space on the HD though, not sure if htat makes a diff
[10:06] <lsuactiafner> sn9 ; tried that, restarted nfs, didnt make a difference
[10:07] <liable> Miksu: ok, anyway my usefulness is expired :)
[10:07] <Miksu> liable how do you define parts?
[10:07] <sn9> lsuactiafner: does the mounting user have permissions?
[10:07] <liable> ian_: can you paste your loadlin config?
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> lin(rw)
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> lin is the hostname of the remote pc
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> i can mount it from remote, but no write access
[10:08] <benplaut> anyone know how to remove "applications" from the top menu set?
[10:08] <sn9> lsuactiafner: does the mounting user have permissions?
[10:08] <liable> ian_: or the command line i should say
[10:08] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : i dont think so since i dont knwo what you are talking about..
[10:08] <ian_> liable: loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw
[10:08] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : how do i enable it?
[10:08] <robotgeek> benplaut: but you want the places & system?
[10:09] <sn9> lsuactiafner: which user is doing the mounting? root?
[10:09] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : yeh
[10:09] <schizoid> dmlinux: one sec
[10:09] <benplaut> robotgeek: yeah
[10:09] <brandoo> grrr - does anyone here use skillport?
[10:09] <liable> ian_: this is for breezy?
[10:09] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : the remote filesystem mounts, just cant write to it
[10:09] <sn9> lsuactiafner: root gets translated to "nobody"
[10:09] <ian_> liable: Yes
[10:09] <robotgeek> benplaut: may not be possible, as that is the whole applet (you need to edit the applet source, i guess)
[10:09] <benplaut> bleh
[10:09] <sn9> lsuactiafner: what does user "nobody" have permissions to do?
[10:10] <benplaut> any chance you can change the text of it?
[10:10] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : the remote pc doesnt have enough disk space, want to use the local /usr/src/linux to compile a kernel in
[10:10] <crimsun> benplaut: it's so much easier. Applications> System Tools> Applications Menu Editor
[10:10] <lsuactiafner> from the remote box
[10:10] <Miksu> anyone familiar with INTERFACES have a look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3171 .. sorry, last time. will post it into  a forum soon. could someone help?
[10:10] <liable> ian_: try this, dunno if will make a difference  vga=normal ramdisk_size=16432 root=/dev/rd/0 rw --
[10:10] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : nothing..
[10:10] <lsuactiafner> sn9 : so how do i make it so i can write to the disk?//
[10:10] <liable> ian_: after the linux and initrd bit
[10:10] <slew> im trying to compile gtk+-2.8.6 and it says that C compiler cannot create executables. i have gcc and g++ installed. what other ones do i need?
[10:10] <ian_> liable: ok trying now
[10:11] <crimsun> benplaut: in the right box, uncheck the "Add Applications" entry
[10:11] <dazvid> crimsun: would you mind cat'ing the xorg.conf for me :) (the monitor section)
[10:11] <benplaut> crimsun: no, i want to hide the text that says "Applications", on the man bar
[10:11] <sn9> lsuactiafner: two ways
[10:11] <benplaut> crimsun: then replace it with an icon-only menu
[10:11] <mustard5> benplaut, slew install build-essentials
[10:11] <brandoo> Anyone have problems with the Macromedia flash plugin?
[10:11] <sn9> lsuactiafner: #1, mount as user instead of root
[10:11] <mustard5> slew install build-essentials
[10:11] <benplaut> mustard5: i've got em
[10:11] <robotgeek> Miksu: too complicated for me, never done ip bridging or so
[10:12] <sn9> lsuactiafner: #2, use the no_root_squash option
[10:12] <liable> ian_: and the linux and initrd are in the same directory as loadlin.exe?
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[10:12] <mustard5> benplaut, was meant for slew..soz
[10:12] <crimsun> benplaut: then look at /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, adapt it as necessary, and drop it in ~/.local/share/applications/
[10:12] <brandoo> eg. if you go to http://zmonline.com/default.aspx?Location=Wellington is the top left section all screwy -- white?
[10:12] <ian_> liable: extra commands didnt help and yes linux and initrd are in same directory as loadlin
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> works, thanks
[10:13] <slew> mustard5, says it couldnt find build-essentials [sudo apt-get install build-essentials] 
[10:13] <schizoid> dmlinux: can you send me the link for your mouse again please.
[10:13] <liable> ian_: and you cd'd into it to before you run the command?
[10:13] <mustard5> hmmm drop the 's' maybe
[10:13] <ian_> liable: Yup
[10:13] <benplaut> crimsun: you're not quite getting what i mean. At the top of the screen it says "Applications Places System"... the standard menus. I want it to only say "Places System"
[10:13] <ian_> liable: The kernel extraction starts...
[10:13] <benplaut> slew: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:13] <crimsun> benplaut: I absolutely understand what you mean.
[10:13] <benplaut> oops
[10:13] <ian_> liable: it just throws back an error after about 15 sec.
[10:13] <benplaut> slew: nm
[10:14] <dmlinux> schizoid http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71914
[10:14] <crimsun> benplaut: don't you understand what you need to do with the sample /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu?
[10:14] <mustard5> slew, try build-essential
[10:14] <benplaut> crimsun: ok, i'll look there then :)
[10:14] <ian_> liable:  Kernel Panick - not synching:VFS: Unable to mount root FS on unknows block (0,0)
[10:14] <liable> ian_: try root=/dev/ram
[10:14] <slew> ahh yeah thats the good stuff
[10:14] <Miksu> robotgeek guess i need to start experimenting. MAN, if someone would have known how to correct would have been GREAT
[10:14] <mustard5> slew, sorry wasnt thinking when I typed it :D
[10:15] <mustard5> got it now thoug
[10:15] <liable> ian_: or ram0
[10:15] <slew> hehe np mustard5
[10:15] <ian_> liable: ok....
[10:15] <robotgeek> Miksu: actually, there are couple of things in there which I would like to do. so thanks :)
[10:15] <benplaut> crimsun: this looks like the menu config file... what's underneath Smeg, right?
[10:16] <Miksu> robotkeek yeah right ;)
[10:16] <dazvid> Can anyone give me a look at their xorg.conf file for reference please?
[10:16] <schizoid> dmlinux: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=369913 check the last post on that page
[10:17] <Miksu> robotkeek hope you realized that is bridging specific data
[10:17] <ian_> liable: still no luck my friend...
[10:17] <Miksu> robotkeed you need to replace static with dhcp and remove the address etc. to run it as a normal web connection
[10:17] <dmlinux> schizoid aye ive done the Xev thing, does it matter if im in Failsafe mode?
[10:17] <ian_> liable: the error change slightly :  Kernel Panick - not synching:VFS: Unable to mount root FS on unknows block (0,1)
[10:18] <robotgeek> Miksu: yeah, i didn't know i could do pre-if up stuff there, i wanted to ntpdate when i connected to the net :)
[10:18] <schizoid> dmlinux: no, what button does it show on wheel?
[10:18] <ian_> liable: (0,1) on the end instead of (0,0)
[10:18] <liable> ian_: bugger. gimme the link where you got the images.
[10:18] <dmlinux> schizoid none , its not recognized
[10:18] <ian_> liable: 1 sec
[10:18] <schizoid> dmlinux: 1 23 work though?
[10:18] <Miksu> robotgeek i haven't even tried with yet. try typing info interfaces in the terminal
[10:18] <robotgeek> crimsun: but the will edit the applications menu, right?
[10:18] <schizoid> dmlinux: sorry 1 3
[10:18] <robotgeek> Miksu: no probs, i got the covered :)
[10:19] <dmlinux> schizoid that disabled clicks
[10:19] <ian_> liable: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[10:19] <crimsun> benplaut: that _is_ the Applications menu.
[10:19] <schizoid> dmlinux: disabled?
[10:19] <Miksu> i REALLY need a smoke. brb
[10:19] <liable> ian_: hrm
[10:20] <schizoid> dmlinux: no I mean in xevent to button 1-3 show up?
[10:20] <dmlinux> schizoid right , if i put 1 2 3 in xorg.conf zaxismapping i cant click on anything
[10:20] <schizoid> dmlinux: ^^
[10:20] <dmlinux> shizoid o  lol
[10:20] <liable> ian_: obviously this thing doesnt have a floppy drive?
[10:20] <ian_> liable: no floppy
[10:20] <benplaut> crimsun: it's what's inside the menu... but the applet is just a set of three links to display the menu
[10:20] <dmlinux> schizoid yes 1 2 3 work
[10:20] <robotgeek> crimsun: i think benplaut wants to have the ubuntu icon open up the menu, remove the Applications entry from the applet "Menu Bar"
[10:21] <ian_> liable: driving me crazy...Ive been fight with this for days.
[10:21] <benplaut> exactly, robotgeek
[10:21] <ian_> liable: Should I try with Horay?
[10:21] <liable> ian_: i can imagine.
[10:21] <schizoid> dmlinux: dmlinux ok for the time being can you comment out the synampic device?
[10:21] <benplaut> let's see if "help" tells me anything
[10:21] <liable> ian_: dunno, cant hurt, doubt it will help though
[10:22] <ian_> liable: I see...
[10:22] <dmlinux> schizoid what
[10:22] <ian_> liable: what about GRUB4DOS...?
[10:22] <slew> heh.. youd figure that ubuntu would come with more delopment packages installed
[10:22] <ian_> liable: know much about that?
[10:22] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok pastebin your xorg.conf again and I'll comment out the synaptic
[10:22] <liable> ian_: sorry, no, but try it if its available
[10:23] <crimsun> robotgeek: how is that an issue? Change <Name>Applications</Name> to <Name></Name>, etc.
[10:23] <ian_> liable: ok will do. sounds like your out of suggestions? Thanks for your time anyway.
[10:23] <dmlinux> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3172
[10:23] <crimsun> robotgeek: there's probably a much easier way to do this using SMEG, but you'd have to ask seb or amaranth
[10:23] <robotgeek> crimsun: hmm, :)
[10:23] <liable> ian_: you have the latest version of loadlin i take it?
[10:24] <ian_> liable: 1.6c - pretty sure thats the most current
[10:24] <liable> ok
[10:24] <slew> anyone know what i should do about this? : checking for X... no
[10:24] <slew> configure: error: X development libraries not found
[10:24] <benplaut> good point, crimsun
[10:24] <selinium_> HI guys, looking to be able to burn an audio cd from Flac files, I will need to convert FLAC to WAV then either burn straight to disc or create an iso. Any ideas?
[10:24] <benplaut> one min, i'll see if that does anything
[10:24] <sn9> slew: what are you compiling?
[10:24] <slew> all im wanting to do is intstall gtk :/
[10:25] <sn9> slew: just apt-get it
[10:25] <liable> ian_: what if you give no root option at all?
[10:25] <Stricklin> !Breezy
[10:25] <seekerr> Slew: have you tried synaptic?
[10:25] <liable> gotta go.. bbl
[10:25] <ian_> liable: trying now
[10:25] <Stricklin> !breezy
[10:25] <benplaut> crimsun, robotgeek... did nothing :(
[10:25] <slew> yes, id rather apt get this than have to install it this way
[10:25] <schizoid> dmlinux: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3173
[10:25] <slew> but synaptic doesnt have it
[10:25] <Stricklin> !tell Stricklin about breezy
[10:25] <slew> apt get says no package
[10:26] <sn9> slew: apt-cache search gtk
[10:26] <dmlinux> schizoid what did you change ?
[10:26] <seekerr> slew: did you put the sudo before it?
[10:26] <zcat[1] > slew: try 'kubuntu-desktop' - that's kde and all the usual stuff that comes with it
[10:26] <sn9> slew: why do you want to install gtk?
[10:27] <Stricklin> Where's the additional repositories pastebin link?
[10:27] <slew> seekerr, yes i did
[10:27] <ian_> liable: same error
[10:27] <seekerr> okay slew
[10:27] <slew> zcat[1] , i dont like kde
[10:27] <seekerr> just making sure..
[10:27] <seekerr> =)
[10:27] <robotgeek> benplaut: working on it :)
[10:27] <vengeful> i have a theme for xfce i want to install...how do i go about doing this?
[10:27] <slew> sn9, im trying to install gtermix, a telnet client
[10:28] <zcat[1] > sorry, you wanted gtk.. dyslexic :)
[10:28] <benplaut> robotgeek: same here... wondering i gconf has anythign to offer (but knowing gnome folks, that's be too confusing for new users...)
[10:28] <seekerr> zcat I know what ya mean
[10:28] <dmlinux> schizoid whats the point in disabling the touchpad?
[10:28] <seekerr> lol
[10:28] <schizoid> dmlinux: so there is no conflict
[10:28] <ian_> liable: anything to do with MBR...?
[10:28] <robotgeek> benplaut: Maybe a killall gnome-panel doesn't work, maybe needs a logout
[10:28] <dmlinux> schizoid kk brb
[10:28] <zcat[1] > plus my computer keeps yelling at me that the server load is 3.24 ..
[10:29] <ian_> liable: playing around with GRUB4DOS earlier and I modified boot.ini but the changes were totally ignored
[10:29] <starscalling> in ubuntu is the firewall on by default?
[10:29] <benplaut> robotgeek: trying that in a sec
[10:29] <mustard5> starscalling, you got a firewall installed?
[10:29] <slew> so what do you guys suggest i do about the configure: error: X development libraries not found?
[10:30] <mustard5> starscalling, try firestarter if you don't have one installed yet
[10:30] <robotgeek> mustard5: what package are you trying to compile?
[10:30] <mustard5> robotgeek, wrong person
[10:30] <sn9> slew: do you need gtk 1.2 or 2.0?
[10:30] <starscalling> ive tried firestarter before mustard5 and i cant see how the ports work
[10:30] <slew> 2.0
[10:31] <slew> i have 2.8.6
[10:31] <slew> [or trying to have 2.8.6]  =] 
[10:31] <sn9> slew: pkg name is libgtk2.0-dev
[10:31] <mustard5> zcat[1] , not by default no
[10:31] <enyc> zcat: you dont need one by default
[10:31] <robotgeek> mustard5: sorry :)
[10:31] <mustard5> starscalling, there is another firewall in the repositories
[10:31] <nsomniac> zcat[1]  not that I know of .. I'm using Firestarter
[10:31] <robotgeek> slew: what package are you trying to compile?
[10:31] <zcat[1] > That's what they thought about win98 too :)
[10:32] <mustard5> starscalling, shorewall or something like that
[10:32] <starscalling> mustard5: i tried a few of them.. firehol too
[10:32] <starscalling> ill look at shorewall then
[10:32] <nsomniac> and Firestarter is under Synaptic too
[10:32] <slew> the end result will be gtermix, which needs gtk and gnet
[10:32] <benplaut> robotgeek: doesn't work
[10:32] <sn9> slew: pkg name is libgtk2.0-dev
[10:32] <robotgeek> benplaut: oh well
[10:32] <slew> right its doing it now
[10:32] <enyc> zcat: unlike some unmentionable OSes, ubuntu comes with no network-listening-sockets by default
[10:32] <slew> thanks =] 
[10:32] <mustard5> starscalling, you can create a firewall with iptables I beleive too
[10:32] <starscalling> yes you can
[10:32] <benplaut> google is failing... that's a bad sign
[10:32] <starscalling> i just dont know how :P
[10:32] <mustard5> starscalling, don't ask me how :)
[10:32] <schizoid> starscalling: firhol is easier then shorewall
[10:33] <nsomniac> Firestarter uses iptables
[10:33] <robotgeek> slew: you can mostly get all required packages by doing "apt-get build-dep <pakage-name>"
[10:33] <starscalling> schizoid: all i need it to do is block incoming from certain ports
[10:33] <starscalling> and allow others
[10:33] <starscalling> i dont care what device // etc
[10:33] <sn9> robotgeek: that's only for pkgs in ubuntu
[10:33] <schizoid> starscalling: firestarter for worstation then
[10:34] <slew> pakage-name = the package im trying to install [gtermix]  or just the package that gtermix needs?
[10:34] <robotgeek> sn9: true, but if someone is trying to compile a newer version of something, it's faster
[10:34] <dmlinux> schizoid that crashed X
[10:34] <schizoid> dmlinux: owie
[10:34] <nsomniac> dmlinux: what crashed x ?
[10:34] <dmlinux> schizoid i wish someone would write drivers for this mouse , this sucks
[10:34] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok I think I found the problem thought
[10:34] <benplaut> the gnome sites are really slow at night
[10:34] <vengeful> i have a theme for xfce i want to install...how do i go about doing this?
[10:35] <nsomniac> dmlinux : sorry thought you were talking about Firestarter
[10:35] <LaschW> Where does nautilus-cd-burner temporarily stores it's iso-images? Seems that I haven't enough disk space on this partition...
[10:35] <mustard5> vengeful, not sure really, havent used xfce
[10:35] <seekerr> vengeful: Have you tried googling it?
[10:35] <vengeful> yeh
[10:35] <seekerr> hehe
[10:35] <schizoid> dmlinux: dmlinux http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3174
[10:35] <seekerr> hmm
[10:35] <seekerr> I've never used it.
[10:35] <schizoid> dmlinux: ok apparently you need a patch for your mouse
[10:36] <mustard5> LaschW, I would assume it was in Home
[10:36] <vengeful> i see where you apply new themes...there is an option to add...but its a tar ball so it doesnt recognize it...i was hoping there was a manual way
[10:36] <dmlinux> shizoid is this patch available??
[10:36] <milksteak> hmmm
[10:36] <seekerr> I'm trying to google it and find out for you vengeful..
[10:36] <milksteak> has anyone had any luck using azureus in breezy?
[10:37] <schizoid> dmlinux: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2006436.html
[10:37] <schizoid> dmlinux: might not be an issue that post is old
[10:37] <mustard5> vengeful,  does the tarball have any instructions inside
[10:37] <sn9> milksteak: the .deb is broken
[10:37] <milksteak> heh
[10:37] <milksteak> I haven't been able to find a deb for ubuntu
[10:37] <sn9> milksteak: get it from sourceforge
[10:37] <robotgeek> if anyone is looking for a good bittorrent client, i would recommend rufus. very clean
[10:37] <milksteak> heh
[10:37] <LaschW> mustard5: Any idea how I will be able to proof this? Is there any --verbose option for nautilus-cd-burner?
[10:37] <Black_Bishop> Does modern Linux running on modern hardware (above 1 GB RAM) even need a swap partition any longer?  The Ubuntu installer seems to imply that it doesn't
[10:38] <milksteak> I've tried the one from sourceforge
[10:38] <schizoid> dmlinux: ahh check his X config out
[10:38] <milksteak> doesn't seem to connect to anyone
[10:38] <milksteak> UPnP always fails
[10:38] <starscalling> schizoid: can i specify a port range then?
[10:38] <mustard5> LaschW, usually when you drop a blank in the drive, it opens the window to put contents in...you could try dropping something in it then finding where it is?
[10:38] <sn9> milksteak: is UPnP turned off on your router?
[10:38] <schizoid> starscalling: let me check
[10:39] <milksteak> shouldn't be
[10:39] <vengeful> no..just credits
[10:39] <DMFDSandman> how do i install a program?
[10:39] <milksteak> it worked fine before on hoary
[10:39] <starscalling> it lets me put in.. im just wondering if its gonna work lol
[10:39] <benplaut> anyone know of a good program for taking notes, in outline form (or similar)?
[10:39] <milksteak> and i haven't changed anything on my router
[10:39] <mustard5> LaschW, I don't really have much idea where it goes
[10:39] <sn9> DMFDSandman: which program?
[10:39] <LaschW> mustard5: Hhhm, thats just what I've done so far. No result, I assume it's not called *.iso...
[10:39] <DMFDSandman> gtkwifi
[10:39] <schizoid> starscalling: you got it?
[10:40] <sn9> milksteak: have you changed java?
[10:40] <milksteak> uh
[10:40] <milksteak> yes
[10:40] <DMFDSandman> i tried apt-get install gtkwifi-1.09.deb and it couldnt find the package
[10:40] <robotgeek> benplaut: hmm, there was one ..call mind something
[10:40] <milksteak> I downloaded java from java.com instead of synaptic
[10:40] <robotgeek> benplaut: there's also tomboy, but i dunno if that helps you
[10:40] <milksteak> seen as java doesn't seem to be in breezy repos
[10:40] <sn9> DMFDSandman: it's dpkg -i gtkwifi-1.09.deb
[10:41] <DMFDSandman> oh ok thanks
[10:41] <benplaut> robotgeek: yeah, i have tomboy... i need something for taking note sin class, etc
[10:41] <mustard5> LaschW, just tried it myself..no luck
[10:41] <sn9> DMFDSandman: immediately followed by apt-get -f install
[10:42] <robotgeek> benplaut: vi :) (sorry for useless suggestion )
[10:42] <benplaut> robotgeek: here's what they said in #linux
[10:42] <mustard5> LaschW, it says the location is burn:/// ?
[10:43] <robotgeek> benplaut: http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[10:43] <mustard5> LaschW, wonder where that is
[10:43] <benplaut> thanks
[10:43] <LaschW> mustard5: I think I found a solution. Having a look at nautilus-cd-burner in gconf there is a temp_iso_dir key. And in the doc window it says that if this key is empty it will use the default location. Where the hell this will be... :-) I wil set a location on a free partition....
[10:43] <robotgeek> benplaut: hth, but might be too *big*
[10:44] <DMFDSandman> sn9: it said 0 newly installed
[10:44] <robotgeek> benplaut: http://www.tranglos.com/free/keynote.html
[10:45] <robotgeek> benplaut: scratch that, it's windows only
[10:45] <seekerr> Did someone say windows?(Throws up)
[10:45] <benplaut> bleh
[10:45] <vengeful> seekerr think i found it
[10:45] <seekerr> ;-)
[10:45] <slew> heh, after all that work, im trying to finally compile the gtermix program. i get this: checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13 gnet-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gnet-2.0 was not fo und in the pkg-config search path.
[10:45] <seekerr> Good vengeful.. Because I wasn't having any luck
[10:45] <seekerr> hehe
[10:45] <slew> why does ubuntu hate me so?
[10:46] <robotgeek> benplaut: it said open source, and i assumed :)
[10:46] <seekerr> Well, slew if you showed it some love maybe it wouldn't hate you.
[10:46] <seekerr> jk
[10:46] <seekerr> hehe
[10:46] <slew> well im licking the glass!
[10:46] <benplaut> 7zip... the runt...
[10:46] <robotgeek> benplaut: found a slashdot article, going thru it now :)
[10:46] <sn9> slew: apt-get install libgnet-dev
[10:46] <starscalling> schizoid: huh? i put in the port range.. but the apps depending on it do not seem to really be ported... im behind a router but thats ported correctly for sure :)
[10:47] <sn9> benplaut: p7zip rules!
[10:47] <benplaut> robotgeek: that'll tkae all night :P
[10:47] <benplaut> sn9: p7zip?
[10:47] <DMFDSandman> ok i got gtkwifi installed, how do i run it?
[10:48] <sn9> benplaut: apt-get install p7zip
[10:48] <dazvid> Can anyone give me a look at their xorg.conf file for reference please?
[10:48] <sn9> DMFDSandman: try typing gtkwifi
[10:48] <slew> i have a feeling this thing is just not going to work with ubuntu. too many errors and warnings and groin punches.
[10:49] <zcat[1] > dazvid: reference to what?
[10:49] <dazvid> the monitor section
[10:49] <robotgeek> benplaut: http://notecase.sourceforge.net/ http://tuxcards.de/
[10:49] <schizoid> starscalling: do you want to block in bound or out bound?
[10:49] <sn9> slew: i'm sure it will work
[10:49] <dmlinux> shizoid im going to restart X, hopefully this works
[10:49] <dazvid> and the section immediately below
[10:49] <slew> which sucks cause it worked with mandriva
[10:49] <schizoid> dmlinux: kk
[10:50] <vengeful> brb gotta restart x
[10:50] <starscalling> schizoid: i want to block incoming on any port but what i specify
[10:50] <slew> sn9 i appreciate your enthusiam
[10:50] <schizoid> starscalling: ok firestarter will block all inbound by default, but if only have one nic you might have to tweak it
[10:51] <DMFDSandman> sn9: that didnt work
[10:51] <slew> but the fact remains that fatal errors = no bbsing for me. =[
[10:51] <seekerr> brb
[10:51] <sn9> DMFDSandman: you can look at what files got installed by typing dpkg -L gtkwifi
[10:51] <schizoid> starscalling: do you have one nic? if so select that as your internet device. this will block everthing
[10:52] <starscalling> i added 0-9999 in allowed port range
[10:52] <schizoid> starscalling: thats not enough
[10:52] <starscalling> i added 0-9999 in allowed service port range
[10:52] <starscalling> ah
[10:52] <sn9> slew: ubuntu already has a perfectly good telnet client
[10:52] <starscalling> what do i need to do then?
[10:52] <starscalling> set for allow everyone on that rule
[10:52] <slew> sn9 right but it dosent display ansi characters correctly
[10:52] <schizoid> starscalling: best practice is to block everthing then open per port
[10:53] <starscalling> yes
[10:53] <sn9> slew: ah
[10:53] <starscalling> but if i can set a single rule for that range
[10:53] <robotgeek> slew: get a better term ?
[10:53] <starscalling> i will then have learned how to allow for smaller ranges i actually need to use
[10:53] <slew> im trying to compile one
[10:53] <slew> gTERMx =] 
[10:53] <schizoid> starscalling: ahh so you are having trouble just with that rule?
[10:53] <starscalling> yes
[10:53] <starscalling> i have only one nic card eth0
[10:54] <robotgeek> slew: i do recommend rxvt-unicode, though i dunno much about it's ansi support
[10:54] <aitor> hi
[10:54] <starscalling> this is for my torrent application atm since i can easily test it with that
[10:54] <aitor> can any of you help me?
[10:54] <aitor> last night I upgraded from hoary to breezy
[10:54] <aitor> and now my X server won't start
[10:54] <enyc> ainor hmmmmm
[10:54] <sn9> aitor: dist-upgrade, i hope
[10:54] <aitor> yes
[10:54] <aitor> dist-upgrade
[10:54] <schizoid> starscalling: hmm you sure you want a range? it better to do per port
[10:55] <starscalling> schizoid: at the moment i want that range i put in there..
[10:55] <aitor> in syslog it says IO error in XOpenDisplay
[10:55] <starscalling> once thats working then i will use a per port method
[10:55] <aitor> when starting kdm
[10:55] <sn9> aitor: were you using either fglrx or nvidia's drivers?
[10:55] <enyc> aitor  try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' maybe [?] 
[10:55] <starscalling> but i do need to do some ranges for my dcc ports :)
[10:55] <aitor> yes, fglrx, I have an ATI Radeon 9500
[10:56] <sn9> aitor: the new pkg is xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:56] <badei> pls
[10:56] <badei> give me a link to download KDE
[10:56] <sn9> DMFDSandman: gedit
[10:56] <badei> i looked on many websites and...
[10:56] <badei> dead mirrors only
[10:57] <schizoid> starscalling: ok you might have to edit the firestarter script, or try adding ie stat-end for port
[10:57] <starscalling> 63139 6667 5190 631 5050 6881 1863 63155 are the currently used ports
[10:57] <schizoid> starscalling: used?
[10:57] <sn9> badei: what's wrong with kubuntu's kde?
[10:57] <starscalling> that firestarter says are being actively used atm
[10:57] <enyc> LISTENING sogkets [?] 
[10:58] <badei> i can't find KDE to download
[10:58] <enyc> or outcoing connections
[10:58] <badei> all mirrors are broken
[10:58] <Razor-X> badei: try ``sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop''
[10:58] <schizoid> starscalling: sure thats not connections? not ports?
[10:58] <sn9> badei: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:58] <robotgeek> Razor-X: long time, no see
[10:58] <Razor-X> robotgeek: yo
[10:58] <starscalling> what do you mean schizoid
[10:58] <Razor-X> robotgeek: it's pretty late night here, i'm just gonna start reading Knife of Dreams
[10:59] <starscalling> its listed under active connections
[10:59] <schizoid> starscalling: are you seeing this in active connections?
[10:59] <starscalling> yes
[10:59] <schizoid> starscalling: ok those are not your ports
[10:59] <badei> sn9, how do i share a dial=up connection without using a proxy sharing????
[10:59] <starscalling> oh, ok
[10:59] <schizoid> badei: ip forwarding
[10:59] <sn9> badei: you can use iptables
[11:00] <schizoid> badei: aka nating
[11:00] <badei> if i set my PC as a gateway
[11:00] <selinium> HI guys, looking to be able to burn an audio cd from Flac files, I will need to convert FLAC to WAV then either burn straight to disc or create an iso. Any ideas?
[11:00] <schizoid> badei: use firestarter
[11:00] <badei> firestarter?
[11:00] <enyc> seli: k3b [???] 
[11:00] <badei> it has a proxy sharing isn't
[11:00] <badei> ?
[11:01] <schizoid> badei: it no its nating
[11:01] <selinium> badei, It is a frontend for iptables
[11:01] <sn9> selinium: you can't make an iso of an audio cd
[11:01] <schizoid> badei: nating is not the same as proxy sharing
[11:01] <badei> from where i download firestarter?
[11:01] <schizoid> badei: apt-get install firestarter
[11:02] <badei> it don't need to download and install it?
[11:02] <starscalling> schizoid starscalling: ok you might have to edit the firestarter script, or try adding ie stat-end for port <--- ok i have the config open.. what do i do to put in the ie stat-end ?
[11:02] <schizoid> badei: nope
[11:02] <selinium> sn9: Really? Ok. But you understand what i am trying to do? Whether it be an iso or a temp file.
[11:02] <badei> only that command?
[11:02] <sn9> badei: that will do it for you
[11:03] <sn9> DMFDSandman: use smeg
[11:03] <badei> :)0-
[11:03] <woland_> hi guys, how do i su - to root on ubuntu?
[11:03] <badei> so cool
[11:03] <schizoid> starscalling: sorry I ment try 45-80 in as the port policy
[11:03] <[wiebel] > sudo bash
[11:03] <kairu0> i'm getting nasty popping noise in VLC but not in other movie players. is this because VLC uses OSS?
[11:03] <sn9> selinium: you can burn wav files straight to audio cd
[11:03] <starscalling> 45-80?
[11:04] <starscalling> what would that do schizoid ?
[11:04] <selinium> sn9: yes but I hace FLAC files...  :)
[11:04] <crimsun> kairu0: does it sound better with vlc-plugin-alsa or vlc-plugin-esd ?
[11:04] <das> woland_: type in 'sudo -s -H' in the terminal
[11:04] <selinium> s/hace/have
[11:04] <sn9> kairu0: vlc can use alsa
[11:04] <crimsun> kairu0: the default oss output plugin should sound good
[11:04] <schizoid> starscalling: you might just have to read the manual for firestarter ok?
[11:04] <starscalling> heh
[11:04] <kairu0> sn9, where do i tell it to use alsa?
[11:04] <starscalling> ive done that
[11:05] <badei> u guys are amazingly
[11:05] <kairu0> crimsun, maybe it uses alsa? i dunno.. anyway why should only it sound bad?
[11:05] <schizoid> starscalling: personally I would just open per port.... its safer
[11:05] <starscalling> schizoid: i am with you on it
[11:05] <badei> thanks for helping us (us=n00bs)
[11:05] <starscalling> and i will do just that eventually
[11:05] <badei> :)))))))))))))
[11:05] <starscalling> but there are ranges i need to open here and there
[11:05] <starscalling> 10 here 40 there
[11:05] <badei> sn9, nice nickname
[11:05] <starscalling> etc
[11:06] <crimsun> kairu0: install vlc-plugin-alsa and change the preference
[11:06] <schizoid> starscalling: then do what I would do make my own iptable rules... and now I'm not going to tell you how :)
[11:06] <sn9> kairu0: look through the prefs
[11:06] <starscalling> making ~90 seperate rules is a pain.. i was hoping to just get to the point where it was not blocking at all
[11:06] <schizoid> starscalling: google iptables
[11:06] <sn9> badei: most ppl don't get it
[11:06] <pierro> does someone knows why totem can't read mpeg files anymore ?
[11:06] <bina> !tell bina about usplash
[11:06] <starscalling> yeah ok
[11:06] <schizoid> starscalling: that makes no sense
[11:06] <starscalling> ill check it out
[11:06] <starscalling> if i can get it to not block on that range
[11:07] <starscalling> then i know ive set that up correctly to port through them
[11:07] <starscalling> then i can safely make rules for my applications as needed and remove the broad range rule
[11:07] <schizoid> starscalling: whey do you need so many ports open?
[11:07] <starscalling> i need lets see here
[11:07] <crimsun> pierro: any mpeg file?
[11:07] <starscalling> 10+10 for dcc
[11:08] <starscalling> 6 for irc server ports
[11:08] <sn9> selinium: use flac to convert to wav. no loss of quality
[11:08] <schizoid> starscalling: ssh 22 www 80 smb 135 pop3 110 like thats not hard to do
[11:08] <pierro> yes crimsun
[11:08] <starscalling> 3 + 3 for aim/msn/yahoo data/chat ports
[11:08] <pierro> any mpgs file since i upgraded to breezy
[11:08] <badei> how can i see a ntfs partiotion with nautilus????
[11:08] <starscalling> 22 80 135 110 113
[11:08] <starscalling> hum
[11:08] <starscalling> etc
[11:08] <schizoid> starscalling: lol see my list?
[11:08] <starscalling> yes
[11:08] <pierro> the error is "could not open ressource for writing"
[11:09] <starscalling> ive a feeling you dont do the same types of things i do :P
[11:09] <aaz> what's the location of the windows partition ,  /mnt ??
[11:09] <schizoid> starscalling: thers is a reason firewalls are this way, its drop all add as need , thats what makes it secure
[11:09] <starscalling> im with you
[11:09] <selinium> sn9: yep, firstly I am trying to get my head around all the switches, also I would like to pipe output straight to cdrecord so I dont have to create all the files... :)
[11:09] <badei> how can i see a Xp ntfs partition?????
[11:09] <starscalling> let me try adding some ports i suppose
[11:09] <vengeful> ah hmm
[11:09] <crimsun> pierro: dpkg -l totem-xine|grep ^ii
[11:09] <vengeful> managed to extract it to the right place..but it wont display it in the theme manager now heh
[11:09] <sn9> selinium: all you need is flac -d file.flac
[11:10] <cjhcjhcjh> !tell badei mount
[11:10] <schizoid> starscalling: I've been working with firewalls along time. I never had to open huge ranges.
[11:10] <starscalling> yes ok
[11:10] <starscalling> im with ya ok
[11:10] <selinium> sn9 : cheers that is great! :)
[11:10] <starscalling> but at the moment
[11:10] <starscalling> none of them are working
[11:10] <bina> how do you stop KDE from opening data / audio CDs automatically?
[11:10] <starscalling> :/
[11:10] <schizoid> starscalling: and if I had to I would avoid it at all costs
[11:10] <sn9> selinium: do not pipe to cdrecord for audio
[11:10] <badei> !tell badei mount
[11:10] <badei> :))))
[11:10] <badei> what's this?
[11:11] <pierro> crimsun,  id didn't change anything
[11:11] <sn9> selinium: use .wav files instead
[11:11] <pierro> and did not return anything in terminal
[11:11] <bina> i dont mind it automatically mounting, just dont like it opening up the contents in a new window
[11:11] <selinium> sn9, why? :)
[11:11] <crimsun> pierro: so you must be using totem-gstreamer. Does System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink> Test work?
[11:11] <bina> badei: its a trigger for a bot to send u information.  the bots not working at them moment it would seem
[11:11] <aaz> what do i need to do after clean install to acces windowsfiles, i'm a newbie
[11:12] <schizoid> starscall starscalling if you really need to open all those port just make a iptables script by hand, that denies all that open your ranges
[11:12] <pierro> crimsun,  i'am under fluxbox xD how can i reach that ?
[11:12] <SuitCase> total newbie here using an ubuntu livecd to rescue the files off my sister's winxp laptop - i'm trying to mount the two partitions on her computer so i can send them over the network. i tried "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1/ /media/lol/" and it has mounted correctly, except when i go to it in the gnome file browser it has an "X" and the directory is empty.
[11:12] <sn9> aaz: just mount the windows partition and go
[11:12] <crimsun> pierro: gstreamer-properties
[11:12] <SuitCase> it implies i have no permissions to access the volume. how do i fix this?
[11:13] <aaz> sn9 how to do that ?
[11:13] <badei> what's this X????
[11:13] <crimsun> pierro: if you're in fluxbox, you need to invoke esd manually.
[11:13] <crimsun> pierro: (assuming that the default audio sink is set to esdsink)
[11:13] <SuitCase> it says i have no permissions, i believe the red x (or red square with an x inside) is saying i can't access it.
[11:13] <pierro> it is..!
[11:13] <starscalling> i wonder if i just have my java messed up
[11:13] <pierro> can't i set it to alsa or oss ?
[11:14] <bauke> hi all, probs with nvidia here. With hoary no problem, but now with breezy: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3176
[11:14] <zcat[1] > yeah, it'll be mounted as root by default, no access to anyone else.. you need to set uid and/or mast when you mount it
[11:14] <zcat[1] > *mask
[11:14] <SuitCase> ah
[11:14] <zcat[1] > man mount will tell you how :)
[11:14] <SuitCase> what do i add to the mount command to make it globally accessible?
[11:15] <SuitCase> man mount is large and obtuse! i'm a poor mac user. or is it something that you can't remember readily? :P
[11:15] <sn9> aaz: try the places menu
[11:15] <zcat[1] > I can't remember; I can go look it up if you want :)
[11:15] <sn9> SuitCase: the option is -o uid=1000
[11:15] <SuitCase> gracias, let me go try that.
[11:16] <benplaut> i'm looking for a simple application for organizing text in heirarchical form. Tab to go in one level, backspace at a blank entry to go back one. Star typing immediately when you are in an entry. rich text isn't required, but would be nice. Any suggestions, or anyone with enough time to make one? i'm no coder, but it shouldn't be complicated (simple XML editor, with custom interface?)
[11:16] <pierro> crimsun,  i set the sink sound to ALSA and now the sound works. but i still see nothing
[11:16] <zcat[1] > thanks sn9 - that or -o umask=000 should work too
[11:16] <crimsun> pierro: "see nothing" for the video?
[11:16] <pierro> and i get this error in terminal : ** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, systemstream=(boolean)false
[11:16] <sn9> benplaut: gvim
[11:16] <robotgeek> benplaut: :)
[11:17] <benplaut> robotgeek: finally figured out how to explain it :P
[11:17] <pierro> crimsun,  just the little animation that totem shows when playing a sound file (i think)
[11:17] <robotgeek> benplaut: with custom keymaps. *new*
[11:17] <crimsun> pierro: does installing totem-xine work?
[11:17] <benplaut> those two maps are so... intuative
[11:17] <pierro> i don't understand that > ?
[11:18] <pierro> and there's a second error : **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:18] <pierro> this dpkg -l totem-xine|grep ^ii ?
[11:19] <DMFDSandman> does wine come with ubuntu?
[11:19] <sn9> DMFDSandman: you can apt-get install it
[11:19] <badei> how?
[11:20] <pl_ice> hi
[11:20] <spiral> hi
[11:20] <starscalling> i dont suppose anyone is an expert on azureus
[11:21] <sn9> DMFDSandman: did you enable all the repositories?
[11:22] <sigwada> what is the complete command line for installing .deb file? pls help
[11:22] <nemik> can any of you recommed a simple dual wan router/switch?
[11:22] <DMFDSandman> dpkg - file.deb
[11:22] <da_bon_bon> can i get usplash to work on other distros ? its the only splash that works on my i810
[11:22] <pierro> dpkg -i file.deb
[11:22] <benplaut> sigwada: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[11:23] <deFrysk> sigwada, wich .debfile ?
[11:23] <sigwada> ok tnx
[11:23] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: if the other distros provide the appropriate initramfs hooks, yes
[11:23] <sigwada> a bittorent.deb file?
[11:23] <pierro> is i810 for sound ?
[11:23] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: err.. then i dont think i wil be able to :)
[11:23] <sn9> DMFDSandman: there is a file /etc/apt/sources.list that controls where apt-get looks
[11:23] <deFrysk> sigwada, bittorren is already in ubuntu
[11:24] <pl_ice> nemik i got linksys wag54g V.2 and it's almost good, can live with it
[11:24] <sigwada> coz i dont have any bittorrent client install in my ubuntu
[11:24] <deFrysk> sigwada, yes u do
[11:25] <sn9> DMFDSandman: edit the file
[11:25] <sn9> DMFDSandman: remove the # from deb and deb-src lines
[11:25] <nemik> pl_ice, its ok? i don't care about fancy features, just reliability. i would personally prefer just a box with 2 WAN's and one output that uses one of them w/ built-in load balancing for when one of them is down
[11:25] <deFrysk> sigwada, where did you get the .deb file from ?
[11:26] <Eftarjin> hi
[11:26] <sn9> DMFDSandman: also add "multiverse" next to "universe"
[11:26] <Eftarjin> i just ordered some CDs at https://shipit.ubuntu.com/. will i receive Ubuntu 5.04 or 5.10 CDs ?
[11:27] <deFrysk> 5.10
[11:27] <throttlejunkie> hello everyone
[11:27] <Eftarjin> ok, thanks
[11:27] <sigwada> what is the command line for running a bittorent file?
[11:27] <pl_ice> nemik hm, u want 2 wlan in one router? :/ sorry then that one is no use
[11:27] <zcat[1] > in about 6 weeks :)
[11:27] <itack> hi, i'm italian.. is possible compile a old kernel (2.6.8) from the .config of a new kernel (2.6.12)?
[11:27] <giany911> how can i use my tv tuner on ubuntu ?
[11:27] <Eftarjin> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/ is still speaking about 5.04 ...
[11:27] <crimsun> itack: yes, make oldconfig will skip the entries that don't exist in the old one
[11:27] <odat> hi everyone
[11:28] <giany911> how can i use my tv tuner on ubuntu ?
[11:28] <deFrysk> sigwada, btdownloadcurses <torrent
[11:28] <crimsun> itack: of course, you must invoke make oldconfig manually...
[11:28] <nemik> pl_ice, no its ok, i'll take what i can get; just need something very very reliable for as little cost as i can get
[11:28] <itack> ok crimsun
[11:28] <sn9> DMFDSandman: use sudo gedit, not gedit
[11:28] <throttlejunkie> i was wondering what the difference is between the cd and the DVD version of the new ubuntu isos on bittorrent
[11:28] <bina> how do u change the bootsplash?
[11:29] <throttlejunkie> are they just including more GUIs to choose from?
[11:29] <pl_ice> nemik  the wg54g are wless but w/o modem, i had a look at them and the're wicked, that's after u change the firmware to non commerical, you can do eg. divide bandwith, just heaps of stuff, around 150 aus bucks
[11:29] <throttlejunkie> or is there additional software?
[11:29] <giany911> helppp meeee
[11:29] <Eftarjin> i've a bug with any 2.6 kernel, any distrib. can i modify Ubuntu's ISO to boot on and install a 2.4 kernel ?
[11:30] <itack> my problem is the freeze of the system when the usb mouse (logitech) is connected, c' qualche italiano in chat?
[11:30] <wezzer> is inotify working on breezy?
[11:30] <sn9> DMFDSandman: also add this line to the file: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[11:30] <nemik> pl_ice, thank you very much! it's great to have a start! i really appreciate the suggestion
[11:30] <deFrysk> sigwada, with frontend gnome-btdownload <torrent>
[11:31] <sigwada> i got this error when i used this command btdownloadccurses btdwownloadcurses: command not found
[11:31] <throttlejunkie> im just asking because i couldnt find it anywhere on the website
[11:31] <throttlejunkie> any help would be much appreciated
[11:31] <Eftarjin> sigwada: try btdwownloadcurses.py ?
[11:31] <pl_ice> nemik i had few wless, ur best shot would be to got through companies,eg cisco, then google the exact type errors/problems will pop up on many fourms, then don't get it :)
[11:31] <tenco> did a fresh install of breezy today and sudo isnt working
[11:31] <sigwada> ok ill try
[11:32] <sn9> DMFDSandman: for now
[11:32] <nemik> pl_ice, good point, i do that for most products also, reviews from real people are very important. thanks again
[11:33] <sn9> DMFDSandman: after you save changes, have apt-get reread the file with "sudo apt-get update"
[11:33] <pl_ice> n/p
[11:33] <throttlejunkie> does anybody know the difference pweeese helwp me
[11:34] <ppcguy> hey all
[11:34] <sn9> DMFDSandman: just install xwine
[11:34] <Madpilot> throttlejunkie: more software, I think. not sure, though
[11:34] <Eftarjin> throttlejunkie: DVDs are both live and install
[11:34] <itack> crimsun, can I use the .config of a debian distro for my ubuntu?
[11:34] <ppcguy> trying to get themes working with flux.. anyone here with a bit of knowhow?
[11:34] <throttlejunkie> oh, ok cool thanks for the help
[11:35] <throttlejunkie> 1 more question...
[11:35] <dazvid> whats the package that has the man pages for C functions?
[11:36] <throttlejunkie> is there an optimized version of the linux kernel for socket A AMD processors, and if so is there a great benifit or not? thx
[11:36] <badei> 89% ubuntu download
[11:37] <pl_ice> throttlejunkie u can chose which processor u using on kernel compilation; and i would say it differs, the cpu flags etc
[11:37] <ppcguy> back sorry
[11:37] <sn9> DMFDSandman: when you're done with apt-get, take a look at synaptic
[11:37] <ppcguy> anyhow, anyone with any knowhow of all things flux here?
[11:37] <sn9> throttlejunkie: yes
[11:37] <throttlejunkie> im just wondering if it is really worth doing it...
[11:37] <throttlejunkie> so yes
[11:38] <robotgeek> ppcguy: what do u need to know about flux, it's been a while since i used it though
[11:38] <sn9> throttlejunkie: athlon, right? linux-image-k7
[11:38] <DarkFame> where do I get the mp3 codecs for ubuntu 5.10?
[11:38] <throttlejunkie> thx ill look into it more then
[11:38] <ppcguy> tryin to figure out where to put themes robotgeek
[11:38] <giany911> darkfame
[11:38] <Madpilot> !tell DarkFame about mp3
[11:38] <giany911> try installin xmms from repo
[11:38] <pl_ice> anyone uses VPN ? on wless routers?
[11:38] <pierro> !tell pierro about mpg
[11:38] <ppcguy> ubuntu gives permission errors on the cli
[11:38] <pierro> !tell pierro about mpeg
[11:38] <throttlejunkie> yyeah athlon 32 bit
[11:38] <sn9> DMFDSandman: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:39] <throttlejunkie> thx all goodnight
[11:39] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working
[11:39] <deFrysk> throttlejunkie, all athlons are 32 bit
[11:39] <robotgeek> ppcguy: someplace in ~/.fluxbox
[11:40] <ppcguy> indeed it is. but instead of a ./themes it's in a styles
[11:40] <pl_ice> deFrysk but their architecrure will vary from from Pen.
[11:40] <ppcguy> which is on no worry
[11:40] <sn9> DarkFame: gstreamer0.8-mad, i think
[11:40] <throttlejunkie> yi was just wondering if there was a difference...
[11:40] <throttlejunkie> ythx
[11:40] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working.. anyone?
[11:40] <throttlejunkie> oops sry about the ys still in counterstrike mode
[11:40] <sigwada> pls help on how can i get a bittorrent coz i cant open my bittorrent files.
[11:40] <ppcguy> the issue is when I try to move it either cli or wm I get a permission error. how can I force root?
[11:40] <robotgeek> ppcguy: styles are themes?
[11:40] <throttlejunkie> thx and gnight all
[11:40] <robotgeek> ! ppcguy about sudo
[11:41] <robotgeek> !tell ppcguy about sudo
[11:41] <sn9> sigwada: did you sudo apt-get install gnome-btdownload ?
[11:41] <ppcguy> I know sudo robot
[11:41] <deFrysk> sigwada, rightclick your torrent and open it with the gnome bittorrent
[11:41] <deFrysk> not that hard
[11:41] <robotgeek> ppcguy: then, sudo and move
[11:41] <ppcguy> not working here for some reason..
[11:41] <ppcguy> but thx, I'll go back to the wiki's
[11:42] <DarkFame> sn9, thanks. that's the one :)
[11:42] <sigwada> i dont have a gnome-bittorent ithink it is not installed yet
[11:42] <sn9> sigwada: did you sudo apt-get install gnome-btdownload ?
[11:42] <deFrysk> sigwada, can you rightclick the torrentfile ?
[11:42] <sigwada> ok ill try
[11:42] <deFrysk> sigwada, in nautilus ?
[11:42] <DMFDSandman> anyone have experience with cedega?
[11:43] <crimsun> itack: sure, but don't expect everything to correspond identically (though it will be similar)
[11:43] <vengeful> Having a problem. I'm trying to install a new theme. I extracted the theme to /usr/share/theme but it doesn't show up in Window Manager Settings. How do i fix it?
[11:43] <vengeful> this is xfce btw
[11:43] <deFrysk> sigwada, gnome works so simple people get confused sometimes with the ease of it all
[11:43] <Madpilot> sigwada: check Applications menu --> Internet --> BitTorrent - I think it's installed by default
[11:43] <sigwada> ive now right click a bittorrent file and it reads open with other application, what will i do?
[11:44] <ppcguy> vengful: sys -> pref -> theme -> Theme Detail button
[11:44] <aitor> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did it, thanks sn9
[11:44] <deFrysk> sigwada, I think you should apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <aitor> gotta go now
[11:44] <deFrysk> sigwada, to get the apps you need in gnome
[11:44] <aitor> farewell and thanks for all the fish ;)
[11:45] <goodthink> howdy
[11:45] <vengeful> i have have a pref option
[11:45] <vengeful> this is for xfce
[11:45] <sigwada> how can i get one? pls tell me the complete command line coz im a newbie in ubuntu. tnx
[11:45] <sn9> sigwada: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <ndazza> hi! i'm looking for info on how to build my own live CD/DVD from a local mirror, using jigdo or otherwise
[11:46] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working.. anyone?
[11:46] <ndazza> i should clarify, how to build the official live CD/DVD
[11:46] <sn9> ndazza: just download it
[11:47] <ndazza> sn9: is there no way to build it? i already have the entire mirror locally and i want to build *all* arch's and kubuntu for my local lug
[11:47] <benplaut> i'm looking for a simple application for organizing text in heirarchical form. Tab to go in one level, backspace at a blank entry to go back one. Star typing immediately when you are in an entry. rich text isn't required, but would be nice. Any suggestions, or anyone with enough time to make one? i'm no coder, but it shouldn't be complicated (simple XML editor, with custom interface?)
[11:47] <robotgeek> sigwada: http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[11:48] <sn9> ndazza: you said the official one. that would be the download. you can make you own, but that's different
[11:48] <pl_ice> anyone uses VPN on wless routers?
[11:48] <ndazza> benplaut: openoffice writer will do that...
[11:48] <ndazza> there is no jigdo file for the DVD or the live CDs
[11:48] <goodthink> anyone here wanna help me out with a really newb problem?
[11:49] <sn9> ndazza: nope
[11:49] <ppcguy> sure goodthink
[11:49] <goodthink> great
[11:49] <ndazza> sn9: so how do they build those? i'm looking to use the same procedure to build the live CD exactly, same MD5sum
[11:49] <deFrysk> goodthink, probs are probs, noob or not
[11:49] <goodthink> how do I add programs to the applications menu?
[11:49] <deFrysk> goodthink, rightclick th ubuntubutton of the menu
[11:49] <Madpilot> goodthink: rightclick on the menu, select edit menu
[11:50] <deFrysk> and what madpilot said
[11:50] <ppcguy> they got there first.. but spot on good
[11:50] <sn9> ndazza: i'm not completely sure, but you would never get the same md5sum
[11:50] <ndazza> sn9: using jigdo will get you the same m5sum
[11:50] <goodthink> jeus christ i love you!
[11:50] <goodthink> lol
[11:50] <benplaut> ndazza: yeah, but it's klunky
[11:50] <goodthink> you wouldnt believe how long i'bve been looking
[11:50] <benplaut> and doesn't alwaysrk the way i want it to...
[11:50] <sn9> ndazza: jigdo isn't used for ubuntu
[11:50] <ndazza> sn9: i've done it before
[11:51] <deFrysk> goodthink, I have a pic of me loking like jezus
[11:51] <ndazza> sn9: you can download the jigdo files from the official ftp servers
[11:51] <goodthink> lol
[11:51] <deFrysk> goodthink, but thats besides the point ;p
[11:51] <goodthink> i'll be asking alot of questions in the next while
[11:51] <ndazza> but regardless, there has to be some automated procedure for building the CD images, i don't suppose anyone knows what it is?
[11:51] <goodthink> this is my first linux try
[11:52] <deFrysk> goodthink, and made a good choice afa distro is concerned :)
[11:52] <DarkFame> yeah :)
[11:52] <goodthink> cool
[11:52] <goodthink> friend told me about it
[11:52] <pl_ice> anyone uses VPN on wless routers?
[11:52] <Toma-> anyone with a tv card know why i might get constant tv-audio even when not using a tv viewer?
[11:52] <goodthink> erm
[11:52] <Madpilot> ndazza: you could ask on #ubuntu-devel, maybe
[11:52] <sn9> ndazza: of course their is, but whatever they use is far less exact than jigdo
[11:52] <goodthink> is there anything like the hosts file on linux?
[11:52] <Toma-> goodthink: /etc/hosts
[11:53] <sn9> goodthink: /etc/hosts ?
[11:53] <ndazza> Madpilot: ok cool thanks
[11:53] <deFrysk> goodthink, try /etc/hosts
[11:53] <deFrysk> ;p
[11:53] <DarkFame> goodthink, you find most of the config files in /etc
[11:53] <ndazza> sn9: i shall have to find out what it is then :) thakns for your help
[11:54] <goodthink> yeah
[11:55] <goodthink> in windows. etc/hosts
[11:55] <goodthink> is there an equivilent in this distro?
[11:55] <Toma-> goodthink: yes... open up /etc/hosts
[11:55] <deFrysk> goodthink, only in lower rankings
[11:56] <deFrysk> goodthink, cat /etc/hosts
[11:56] <goodthink> sob lol
[11:56] <goodthink> sorry
[11:56] <DarkFame> goodthink, feel free to try out other distros.. but you'll come back to Ubuntu. :)
[11:56] <giany911> who can help me
[11:56] <goodthink> i thought you were just asking if i meant etc/hosts
[11:56] <goodthink> lol
[11:56] <goodthink> so it works the same?
[11:56] <sn9> giany911: with?
[11:56] <giany911> configuring a bt878 tv tuner
[11:57] <dazvid> !restricted
[11:57] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:57] <giany911> i installed tvtime from repo ..but i hv no drivers for my tv tuner
[11:57] <sn9> giany911: i might be able to help if i were there, but not from here
[11:57] <giany911> :(
[11:58] <yvgb> excuse me, I want to know how to modify dpkg package database manually. Do you know where dpkg db is?
[11:59] <intangible> petals around the rose, UGH!  it sucks
[11:59] <Herr_Meneutik> hi! i'm trying to install ubuntu but in the beginning of the setup process, after the install pool has been checked, in the next step i get Input/Output errors from my cdrom, "Failed to copy, Retry....", in windows i can copy those files without a problem
[11:59] <stevejesus> hey guys its the new ubuntu guy again
[12:00] <sn9> yvgb: /var/lib/dpkg
[12:00] <giany911> another issue
[12:00] <intangible> yvgb, /var/lib/dpkg
[12:00] <yvgb> yeah, let me check it.
[12:00] <marcus_> Just want to say that i love ubuntu =)
[12:00] <stevejesus> can someone tell me if there are any precautions to take before upgrading to breezy?
[12:00] <giany911> ..how can i play some cs on ubuntu .. i heard something ..about cedega or something
[12:00] <sn9> Herr_Meneutik: is it a laptop?
[12:00] <DarkFame> Herr_Meneutik, try burning the cds at a lower speed
[12:00] <Herr_Meneutik> sn9: no
[12:00] <deFrysk> stevejesus, read the notes as stated in the topic
[12:00] <yvgb> Yes. I am here in /var/lib/dpkg, but I still don't know how to midify it manually.
[12:01] <bojaren> 
[12:01] <stevejesus> ahhh, didnt notice, thanks
[12:01] <Herr_Meneutik> DarkFame: i use the dvd version, but i can read the file under windows..
[12:01] <marcus_> stevejesus: shouldnt be a problem
[12:01] <marcus_> maybe xorg thou
[12:01] <sn9> yvgb: then don't bother
[12:01] <Herr_Meneutik> on the same computer
[12:01] <Firetech> is there any way to run a simulated apt-get procedure (apt-get -s) without being root? (I would say using sudo is being root...)
[12:01] <kairu0> i am still getting an annoying popping sound in vlc, but not other applications. anyone know what might cause this?
[12:01] <ndazza> Firetech: there is a package called fakeroot that might help you
[12:01] <yvgb> I want to remove one problem package in dpkg process.
[12:02] <Firetech> ndazza: doesn't work, I tried it
[12:02] <sn9> kairu0: improper settings
[12:02] <bigfoot1> how come breezy has gimp version 2.2.9 only, and not the more updated versions???
[12:02] <kairu0> sn9, in what?
[12:02] <bigfoot1> 2.2.8, i mean
[12:02] <sn9> kairu0: vlc's preferences
[12:02] <giany911> can i install nvidia drivers under a live cd? ??
[12:02] <pinucset> wich is the last gimp release version?
[12:02] <ndazza> Firetech: for what purpose? you could do some thing in a virtual machine like qemu
[12:02] <giany911> can i install nvidia drivers under a live cd? ??
[12:02] <sn9> giany911: i doubt it
[12:03] <Firetech> ndazza: it's for a script
[12:03] <giany911> :(
[12:03] <badei> does ubuntu have music player?
[12:03] <Firetech> kind of an update notifier for KDE...
[12:03] <giany911> yeah
[12:03] <badei> i want to listen my music like in winamp
[12:03] <robotgeek> badei: several
[12:03] <giany911> but u need codecs
[12:03] <Herr_Meneutik> if i do cat /cdrom/pool/main/e/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs-udeb...... i get an input/output error, same with cp, under windows i can read and copy the file without a problem
[12:03] <giany911> try gettin xmms from repo
[12:03] <robotgeek> badei: get beep-media-player then
[12:03] <badei> and movies too
[12:03] <sn9> badei: it has many. like xmms for example
[12:03] <yvgb> If i remove some files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/blahblah.sh, is that correct?
[12:03] <robotgeek> !tell badei about mp3
[12:03] <giany911> badei ..get xmms from repo
[12:03] <wezzer> is banshee still actively developed?
[12:03] <ndazza> Firetech: what about: modify your path so that ~/bin is first, and create a script called apt-get to report back on the parameter's it is passed
[12:04] <leggy> hi...i've mounted a ntfs partition by console: problem - only the root can see the files. then i tried to mount it by using /etc/fstab! now all users have access to the directory. but there are no files in it
[12:04] <sn9> badei: for movies there is mplayer and other such programs
[12:04] <leggy> i have mounted the right partition
[12:04] <giany911> mplayer is cool .. i use it under windows 2
[12:04] <leggy> so does anyone know where the mistake is
[12:04] <badei> thanks again guys!!
[12:04] <ndazza> leggy: type 'mount' to see if the partition is mounted and with what options
[12:05] <Firetech> ndazza: that wouldn't work, I run "apt-get -y -s dist-upgrade" to get info on available package updates
[12:05] <sn9> leggy: are you sure there is actually something there?
[12:05] <leggy> yes
[12:05] <badei> i must update my ubuntu to breezy ?????????
[12:05] <pl_ice> anyone got a phone gprs with internet connecition?
[12:05] <badei> it's necesarly?
[12:05] <leggy> when i mount it by console there are files but only to for the root
[12:05] <liable> badei: no
[12:05] <sn9> DMFDSandman: yeah, wine is tricky
[12:05] <liable> badei: yet
[12:05] <ndazza> Firetech: if fakeroot doesn't work the only thing i can think of is to use a VM, set up networking and test from inside the VM where you can have root access without damaging anything important
[12:06] <badei> so .... yes or no?
[12:06] <giany911> ...about cs .. can it work with wine or cedega?
[12:06] <liable> no
[12:06] <ompaul> badei, no
[12:06] <leggy> the options are: /home/dokumente type ntfs rw
[12:06] <ndazza> giany911: see the website for cedega for a list of supported games
[12:06] <sn9> DMFDSandman: did you try wine-config or some such thing?
[12:06] <badei> ok ok
[12:06] <giany911> aham thx
[12:06] <Firetech> ndazza: a bit too complex for an update notifier...
[12:06] <giany911> but i cant find cedega on repo ?
[12:06] <ndazza> Firetech: how about a live CD?
[12:06] <sn9> giany911: no
[12:06] <ompaul> giany911, no it is a commerical package
[12:06] <giany911> aa
[12:07] <giany911> ok
[12:07] <giany911> can cs work with wine ?
[12:07] <sn9> giany911: no
[12:07] <giany911> :(( only cedega
[12:07] <Firetech> ndazza: it's just a small script I want to run now and then to notify me on possible upgrades... using anything else than apt-get -s would be just plain silly...
[12:08] <liable> marcus_: man update-rc.d
[12:08] <sn9> giany911: most games don't work with wine
[12:08] <badei> Lineage2 c3 it works?
[12:08] <badei> ?
[12:08] <giany911> oh i tried under ..knoppix with wine it ....kinda worked only i had now nvidia drives installed
[12:08] <liable> marcus_: sorry
[12:08] <giany911> *no
[12:09] <ndazza> Firetech: ohhh sorry i was thinking u just want to test it with root before deployment
[12:09] <badei> Ubuntu rullzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:09] <badei> :)
[12:09] <giany911> its cool i must say
[12:09] <sn9> DMFDSandman: you can look up wine stuff at http://winehq.com
[12:09] <Firetech> ndazza: no problem
[12:10] <giany911> resolution 1280 ... OO .. on win i cant do that:O .. the comp will terribly slow down
[12:10] <badei> is there another distro that is better and cool-er than Ubuntu??
[12:10] <sn9> DMFDSandman: or was it .org?
[12:10] <ndazza> Firetech: perhaps don't use apt-get, you could use wget to download the packages.gz file, use md5sum to compare it with a saved md5sum to check for updates... oh wait that wouldn't work...
[12:10] <badei> i think not
[12:10] <badei> :)
[12:10] <ndazza> ehh gotta go, good luck!
[12:11] <badei> i heard that winamp 3 is working in linux
[12:11] <badei> is a version special made for linux all distro's
[12:11] <savas> wow
[12:11] <sn9> badei: why? there's xmms
[12:11] <badei> what's xmms?
[12:11] <hawking> ubotu tell hawking about breezy
[12:12] <Pygi> a program for listening  music badei
[12:12] <sn9> badei: it's like winamp
[12:12] <badei> yes
[12:12] <SuseUX> anyone know how I can change permissions to /home/username, all the directories in there?
[12:12] <badei> how i do instal it?
[12:12] <cheemp> it even uses winamp skins no?
[12:12] <badei> and codecs needed for it
[12:12] <hawking> where can i find repositories for breezy?
[12:12] <ompaul> badei, there are lots of programs that work on Linux give them a try about 20k of programs
[12:12] <Pygi> chmod??
[12:12] <enoon> SuseUX, chmod -r
[12:12] <sn9> badei: sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:12] <leggy> so...i've tried it a second time
[12:12] <ompaul> badei,  more thats just ubuntu
[12:13] <sigwada> pls help, i dont hve gnome-bittorrent, its not availble apps>internet, how could i get one? pls help
[12:13] <sn9> cheemp: it has its own skins
[12:13] <leggy> and the partition is not listed when i use 'mount' in console
[12:13] <badei> cool
[12:13] <badei> xms
[12:13] <leggy> but it's listed in the fstab
[12:13] <badei> xmms :))
[12:13] <savas> sudo mount
[12:13] <savas> ?
[12:13] <cheemp> i'm going to build a 400mhz linux computer on a usb stick .. what do you guys think of that?
[12:13] <leggy> an when i start the disk manager i find it also in the list
[12:13] <SuseUX> enoon, I tried chmod but ubuntu dont want to know and keeps saying ".drmc file is the wrong owner"
[12:13] <ompaul> sigwada, click on applications internet and see if it says bittorrent there
[12:13] <mojo> ubotu tell mojo about ubotu
[12:13] <sn9> cheemp: been done
[12:14] <leggy> it runs with mounting by console...but i want it always mounted on start
[12:14] <thesmiler_> i'm hard to talk ....
[12:14] <thesmiler_> english is difficult to me .-_-;;;
[12:14] <sn9> leggy: if mount by itself doesn't list it, you need to mount it
[12:14] <cheemp> sn9: i'll mass produce them and sell them
[12:14] <sigwada> nope, its not present. what should i do to get one? pls help
[12:14] <enoon> SuseUX, maybe you should chown - change the owner
[12:15] <cheemp> i can sell them 150$
[12:15] <SuseUX> Why couldn't they just leave the default user seetings rather than sudo, it's a pain in ther arse
[12:15] <enoon> SuseUX, what are you trying to do anyways?
[12:15] <sigwada> oops sori i see now
[12:15] <leggy> but why? it should also work with fstab shouldn't it?
[12:15] <sigwada> tnx bro
[12:15] <ompaul> SuseUX, because its not suse
[12:15] <Pygi> Suse: Maybe because it's better for non-technical user not to use root??
[12:15] <sn9> leggy: fstab is not the same; you need both
[12:16] <ompaul> sigwada, enjoy
[12:16] <SuseUX> enoon, ubuntu didn't set the current /home/username and make it owner
[12:16] <enoon> SuseUX, you can passwd root and login as root
[12:16] <SuseUX> ompaul, I dont use SuSE
[12:16] <ompaul> SuseUX, :-) your nick might suggest otherwise
[12:16] <ompaul> SuseUX, in fact it did  ;)
[12:17] <sn9> ompaul: i agree
[12:17] <mojo> This ubotu thing is cool.  when did it come on line?
[12:17] <enoon> SuseUX, when did it not do that?
[12:17] <SuseUX> ompaul, you might just have kept your mouth shut
[12:17] <SuseUX> enoon, on the install
[12:17] <enoon> SuseUX, okay
[12:18] <goodthink> grrr how do you install files? i am having such a difficult time
[12:18] <goodthink> i downloaded an ati driver
[12:18] <cheemp> sn9: i will make the usb linux 400mhz computer, and i will make a small independant one with bluetooth and 802.11b.. about 1" thick 6" long 2" high
[12:18] <ompaul> !tell goodthink about ati
[12:18] <LasseL> goodthink, open synaptic, search for ati
[12:18] <sn9> goodthink: you shouldn't have done that
[12:18] <goodthink> and i double clicked it... says it can't open it
[12:18] <goodthink> k
[12:18] <enoon> SuseUX, so it did not create the home of the user you gave as user on install??
[12:18] <goodthink> synaptic>ati
[12:18] <SuseUX> enoon, My mum had a previous install of a different distro, and had /home/username
[12:18] <cheemp>  i can make the small ones for 150$
[12:18] <giany911> ...where can i finde dc++ for linux ?
[12:18] <giany911> *find
[12:19] <ompaul> giany911,install build-essential
[12:19] <Pygi> Giany: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/linuxdcpp/
[12:19] <sn9> goodthink: you need a package called linux-restricted-modules
[12:19] <hawking> does noone know where I can find repositories for breezy???
[12:19] <SuseUX> enoon, it's on a seperate partition, ubuntu supposed to chown that directory when you setup a user, right?
[12:19] <Sarkie> hi
[12:19] <sn9> !tell hawking about repos
[12:20] <goodthink> is everything handled through synaptic?
[12:20] <hawking> thanks :)
[12:20] <sn9> goodthink: pretty much
[12:20] <Pygi> almost all :)
[12:20] <enoon> SuseUX, i dont know - never tried to include old users homes on install
[12:20] <goodthink> hum
[12:20] <goodthink> thats cool
[12:20] <goodthink> lol
[12:20] <ompaul> goodthink, it can be
[12:20] <SuseUX> enoon, well thats how it supposed to work, on every distro
[12:21] <goodthink> ok whats the program that emulates windows for games?
[12:21] <Sarkie> cedega
[12:21] <Pygi> god: Cedega
[12:21] <goodthink> kk
[12:21] <goodthink> thats
[12:21] <eth42> after upgrading to Thunderbird 1.0.7 a problem reappeared: if I click on a mailto-link in Firefox when Thunderbird is running, it tries to start a new Thunderbird instance and shows the profile manager. How can I fix this? (The running Thunderbird instance should be used instead of a new one)
[12:21] <DarkFame> "Add Programs" under "Applications" is a frontend for synaptic (which is a frontend for apt).
[12:21] <sn9> giany911: valknut is the name of the package
[12:21] <SuseUX> enoon, ubuntu made a complete and utter arse up of it and changed the permissions to a user account I create just to test
[12:21] <enoon> SuseUX, you mean - creating a user for every directory in a partition mounted as /home ?
[12:22] <SuseUX> no, just /home
[12:22] <giany911> i found dcgui on repo
[12:22] <marcus_> how to install mstcorefonts?
[12:22] <sn9> giany911: that's there too
[12:22] <marcus_> (not listed with apt-get)
[12:22] <enoon> SuseUX, i would think ubuntu just didnt touch the user and permissions on the home partition
[12:23] <SuseUX> enoon,  no it does, just not with my mums for some reason
[12:23] <HiddenFly> giany911: atleast for me, dcgui/dcgui-qt wont work, they dont save the configuration at all for some reason
[12:23] <jhank> doesn anyone know when openoffice rc3 is to be expected?
[12:23] <enoon> you could either adjust the users ids or chown the homes to their respective users
[12:23] <sn9> marcus_: msttcorefonts
[12:23] <enoon> SuseUX, are you aware, that users are identified by ID rather than the name?
[12:24] <sn9> marcus_: it's there
[12:24] <SuseUX> enoon, dont ubuntu use a different method?
[12:24] <enoon> SuseUX, so when you created a testuser it got the userID your mom had on the other distro
[12:24] <Vixus> I'm getting this error when trying to run Blender: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:25] <enoon> SuseUX, and thus "your mums" files belong to the testuser because the filesystem says they belong to userID 100x or whatever
[12:25] <sn9> Vixus: you may have to turn it on with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:25] <enoon> SuseUX, which is now the userID of the testuser
[12:26] <DarkFame> Vixus, your xorg.conf is missing load "GLX" in Section "Module"
[12:26] <SuseUX> enoon, ok, thanks
[12:26] <enoon> SuseUX, have a look at /etc/passwd
[12:27] <enoon> SuseUX, or the "Users and Groups" prefpane
[12:27] <jhank> doesn anyone know when openoffice rc3 is to be expected?
[12:27] <liable> jhank: why?
[12:27] <enoon> SuseUX, or the tool usermod
[12:27] <jhank> bugfixes
[12:27] <SuseUX> enoon, I will thanks, just hope I can get ride of this drmc error on login
[12:27] <enoon> SuseUX, i prefer usermod
[12:27] <jhank> because rc is released liable
[12:28] <cheemp> how do i get "make" working in ubuntu?
[12:28] <sham> did u install the make package?
[12:28] <Vixus> do I need to enable GLCore
[12:28] <SuseUX> rid
[12:28] <enoon> SuseUX, you can probably just chown -r <mum> /home/<mum>
[12:28] <liable> cheemp: install build-essential
[12:28] <sn9> cheemp: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:28] <cheemp> when i do apt-get install make, it asks me for the breezy cd which i don't have
[12:28] <SuseUX> enoon, will do :-)
[12:28] <cheemp> ah
[12:28] <ben> Hi. I'm trying ot upgrade to the newest kernel but I keep getting a segment fault. I took a screencap and it's at http://mkultra.sytes.net/Screenshot-1.png.
[12:28] <Vixus> sn9: do I need to enable GLCore
[12:28] <enoon> SuseUX, good look
[12:28] <ben> The segment fault results in me being unable to boot the new Kernel.
[12:28] <ben> Any ideas?
[12:29] <SuseUX> thanks
[12:29] <liable> cheemp: then you need to fix your sources list..
[12:29] <ompaul> cheemp, nano /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the first line
[12:29] <sn9> Vixus: enable everything except xtt
[12:29] <ompaul> cheemp, where it says CD :)
[12:29] <Vixus> sn9: even v4l?
[12:29] <cheemp> weird first time i get that
[12:29] <sn9> Vixus: why not
[12:29] <spayne> has anyone heard of a Gaim problem? where there is a text lag?
[12:29] <Vixus> sn9: that's pretty much everything enabled. :|
[12:30] <enoon> sn9, have you figured out anything about the HAL problems?
[12:30] <sn9> enoon: remind me
[12:30] <enoon> sn9, now?
[12:31] <cheemp> funny how the pico command loads nano
[12:31] <optik> hey huys, just got 5.10 and wonderin how to get bluetooth mice workin "out of the box"
[12:31] <bunoc> hi. anybody please tell me how to install OpenOffice2 in Breezy?
[12:31] <optik> as mine aint
[12:31] <robotgeek> optik: there's minor documentation on the wiki
[12:31] <optik> bunoc, it already is
[12:31] <sn9> enoon: i don't remember what it was about since i haven't slept since Fri. morning
[12:31] <optik> robotgeek, for 5.10?
[12:31] <liable> bunoc: apt-cache search openoffice
[12:31] <cheemp> i want to go to that ubuntu conf in montreal.... but i cant afford hotel for 2 weeks
[12:32] <robotgeek> optik: yeah, i wrote it for 5.10, but not mice. general bluetooth
[12:32] <enoon> sn9, are you a ubuntu developer by the way?
[12:32] <bunoc> optik: then how to use it? i run "openoffice &", but it still runs the old openoffice1.5?
[12:32] <sn9> enoon: no, i'm just finding it hard to leave here
[12:32] <bunoc> i found some packages like openoffice.org2, but dont see the binary to run it ?
[12:32] <enoon> sn9, wow - i already had the impression you didnt doi anything but talking to people all the time
[12:32] <robotgeek> bunoc: find complete path to new openoffice, and execute.
[12:33] <liable> new oo should replace old..
[12:33] <cheemp> ahh now i can build the kernel for the embedded linux of my usb linux :)
[12:33] <robotgeek> bunoc: dpkg -L <package> | less see where the new one is
[12:33] <enoon> sn9, so if you figure out about the HAL prob - will you report it as bug/solution ?
[12:33] <enoon> sn9, lol
[12:33] <hawking> how can i see the partition of my harddisk?
[12:33] <sn9> enoon: i don't even remember what problem you mean
[12:34] <liable> hawking: sudo fdisk -l
[12:34] <Euler> install QTParted
[12:34] <cheemp> i can't believe i get 600kB/s from the ubuntu apt repo
[12:34] <robotgeek> liable: oo 2.0 does not replace 00 1.0 as 2.0 is still beta/rc?
[12:34] <cheemp> apt is so fast compared to yum too... ahhh ...
[12:34] <enoon> sn9, you said you had a HAL problem AND I have a serious HAL problem - the ubuntu kernel crashes on boot in runlevel 2 on HAL start
[12:34] <cheemp> what were they thinking
[12:35] <pinucset> robotgeek, oo is still rc3 and will be released stable at 20 day.
[12:35] <liable> robotgeek: mm, ok.
[12:35] <bunoc> looks like the new bin is ooffice2.
[12:35] <sn9> enoon: i remember mine; i don't remember yours
[12:35] <bunoc> thank you all guys
[12:35] <enoon> sn9, /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus start crashes the kernel
[12:35] <optik> robotgeek, what was the article called?
[12:35] <hawking> I loved breezy! :)
[12:35] <DarkFame> loved?
[12:36] <sn9> enoon: as in tracebacks?
[12:36] <enoon> sn9, i am able to boot the system anyway using a kernel from a different install/dustri
[12:36] <enoon> sn9, tracebacks?
[12:36] <sn9> enoon: on the screen
[12:36] <hawking> I have mounted my windows to /mnt/windows how can i make a link of this folder to my desktop?
[12:36] <liable> enoon: what if you remove the link in rc.2?
[12:36] <enoon> sn9, when the kernel panics it draws a screen full of dumps and i cant scroll up -
[12:37] <sn9> hawking: right click on the desktop
[12:37] <liable> enoon: shift page-up
[12:37] <enoon> liable, i dont think gnome can run without dbus/hal
[12:37] <cheemp> i'd like to be a ubuntu developer eventually
[12:37] <b0r1z> hello, I am trying to play planeshift, but it runs very poorly and I get this message:  Indirect rendering might indicate a poor opengl setup if you are running on a local xserver
[12:37] !TomSawyer:*! it looks like I'm having bandwidth problems again
[12:37] <enoon> liable, the kernel crashes and i cannot use my beyboard
[12:37] <liable> enoon: prolly
[12:37] <enoon> liable, what?
[12:37] <dazvid> hawking, if you are using 5.10 -> add it to your fstab, and it will automatically make the desktop icon
[12:37] <b0r1z> what can I do to solve that?
[12:37] <cheemp> ahhh crap bison wasn't installed
[12:37] <sn9> enoon: but a different kernel works?
[12:38] <nightswim> !mplayer
[12:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:38] <liable> enoon: run without hal..
[12:38] <hawking> dazvid: how can i add it to fstab?
[12:38] <moshe> hello
[12:38] !TomSawyer:*! whoops, wrong window :)
[12:38] <enoon> sn9, yes / a kernel from a different partition runs fine
[12:39] <magmini> hi guys, can someone help me on the installation of ubuntu
[12:39] <sn9> enoon: same optimization?
[12:39] <enoon> liable, are you sure that it can work
[12:39] <moshe> I just did the upgrade to Breezy, and X wouldn't start, just like the breezy upgrade page warned, so I reconfigured X.
[12:39] <liable> enoon: no, i was saying it prolly wont :)
[12:39] <dazvid> !tell hawking about ntfs
[12:39] <cheemp> so is ubuntu going to kill windows vista...
[12:39] <moshe> now, I get the nvidia splash screen, but then X crashes with no error message on screen.
[12:39] <moshe> does anyone know how I can get X back?
[12:39] <topyli> cheemp: no, vista will live
[12:40] <cheemp> if only ubuntu had the same marketing budget haha
[12:40] <cheemp> topyli: i installed beta 2.. it was horrible
[12:40] <liable> moshe: grepp EE /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:40] <magmini> cheemp: can u help me on the installation, im kinda confuse
[12:40] <sn9> moshe: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the error
[12:40] <moshe> ok
[12:40] <dazvid> hawking, did you check what ubotu sent you?
[12:40] <liable> moshe: err grep that is..
[12:40] <cheemp> magmini i'm very confused myself right now
[12:40] <enoon> sn9, i cannot remember - i think the one i use now is a custom kernel i compiled || anyways i tried running a different kernel on ubuntu (k7 opposed to i386)
[12:40] <topyli> cheemp: would be nice to think that a company with 90% market share would go down just like that, only because someone has a better OS. hasn't worked yet :)
[12:41] <magmini> it wont let me install
[12:41] <enoon> sn9, you are suggesting i compile a custom kernel for ubuntu and check if the problem stems from default ubuntu kernelconfig?
[12:41] <magmini> im at the partition disks
[12:41] <sn9> enoon: you have an athlon?
[12:41] <enoon> liable, okay - the lingo got me
[12:41] <enoon> sn9, yep
[12:41] <enoon> sn9, 1ghz
[12:42] <liable> enoon: what is the actual problem, i lastloged you but never saw an actual description.
[12:42] <ben> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade to the newest kernel but I keep getting a segmentation fault. I took a screencap and it's at http://mkultra.sytes.net/Screenshot-1.png. I can't boot into the new Kernel and it spits out errors about the RAMDISK and VFS being unable to sync.
[12:42] <sn9> enoon:  are both the working kernel and the bad one k7?
[12:42] <_sam> Can I remove the totem mozilla plugin thing?
[12:42] <goodthink> how do i get access to write a line in my hosts file?
[12:42] <salutis> hello, i have one question. how i lock one row that it stay on top of table when i scrolling document in openoffice spreadsheet (sorry for my ughly english)
[12:42] <optik> robotgeek, what was the article you wrote called
[12:42] <jackito> hi
[12:42] <_sam> mplayer plugin seems to do the job much better
[12:42] <optik> i know bluetooth is working becuase i can send files to my comp
[12:42] <optik> but i cant use my mouse
[12:42] <moshe> hmmm
[12:42] <enoon> liable, on boot my kernel crashes when ubuntu enters runlevel 2 and does /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus start
[12:42] <bobbyd> salutis, maybe try in #openoffice.org
[12:42] <z|bandito> hi
[12:43] <sn9> _sam: apt-get remove it
[12:43] <enoon> sn9, i think so
[12:43] <salutis> bobbyd, thanks
[12:43] <_sam> sn9: I don't know what it's called.
[12:43] <salutis> bobbyd, thanks for tip
[12:43] <cheemp> topyli: ms would be rulers of earth without linux.. even sun would just fade off
[12:43] <enoon> sn9, i will just have a look at the partition the kernel is on
[12:43] <pl_ice> anyone got GPRS nokia with linux working?
[12:43] <bobbyd> salutis, np
[12:43] <sn9> _sam: use dpkg -S to find out
[12:43] <z|bandito> I have a Tyan Thunder 100 mobo, with an Intel 440GX AGPset.. supposedly it's the "the good old Intel PIIX4 southbridge IDE channels".  Is this IDE controller properly supported in recent releases?
[12:43] <topyli> sn9: i was thinking about that but the plugin is not a package of its own
[12:43] <jackito> what app do u use to manage iPod ?
[12:44] <sn9> jackito: gtkpod
[12:44] <jackito> sn9 is a good one?
[12:44] <sn9> topyli: i think it is
[12:44] <moshe> why does my machine still say Hoary when I log in to bash?
[12:44] <z|bandito> the installer can't find the cd media, even though the system boots from it... how can I check the kernel boot log?
[12:44] <pinucset> moshe, because you use hoary? :S
[12:45] <topyli> sn9: it sure doesn't have "totem" in its name at least
[12:45] <moshe> but I upgraded last night to breezy
[12:45] <sigwada> how can i used bittorent under application>internet>bittorent?
[12:45] <goodthink> I need to add a line to my hosts file but it won't let me, how do I do this?
[12:45] <z|bandito> sudo first goodthink
[12:46] <goodthink> eh?
[12:46] <goodthink> sudo?
[12:46] <topyli> sn9: anyway, i've developed a liking to the totem plugin because the interface is better than mplayer-plugin's :)
[12:46] <sigwada> tnx bro
[12:46] <sn9> goodthink: sudo gedit
[12:46] <sigwada> how can i used bittorent under application>internet>bittorent?
[12:46] <liable> heh, ubuntu still has /etc/debian_version..
[12:46] <moshe> so, apparently the upgrade destroyed my fonts, so I have to download fonts all over again
[12:47] <psik0> hello
[12:47] <schatzes> hi again! i get input/output errors when i try to install ubuntu, i already burned the cd at a lower speed, and tried it with another pc and it works. i can also read the cd on the same pc under windows.
[12:48] <bimberi> sigwada: first you download a torrent file, then open it with that app.
[12:48] <topyli> liable: yeah, they're showing their origin. i guess linspire, libranet and others have that too. good for webmin and other 3rd party packages i guess
[12:48] <goodthink> thanks
[12:48] <psik0> the module of my graphic card is i810 but instead of this is loaded i915 at start
[12:48] <psik0> how i can change ?
[12:48] <sigwada> what is the comand line?
[12:49] <z|bandito> the terminal emulator
[12:49] <bimberi> liable, topyli: perhaps some programs refer to it
[12:49] <hawking> can someone tell me how to make a link between two directories say x and y. y is a link and when I click on y  x is opened
[12:49] <dazvid> IS the mplayer website working for anyone else?
[12:49] <_sam> sn9: I tried dpkg -S totem but it doesn't show me anything that seems to be a totem mozilla plugin package.
[12:49] <z|bandito> it's a text based interface to the computer
[12:49] <jackito> bye
[12:49] <sn9> _sam: totem-gstreamer is the name of the pkg
[12:49] <topyli> bimberi: i know webmin configures itself based on that
[12:50] <_sam> sn9: Oh, that's the one. Isn't that the whole player though?
[12:50] <bimberi> topyli: ah :)
[12:50] <psik0> hawking, ln -s x y
[12:50] <enoon> sn9, it is a custom kernel and thus it is configured for athlon
[12:51] <sn9> _sam: yup, but you can install totem-xine which will remove it
[12:51] <_sam> sn9: Not that I mind removing it, it never worked well for me.
[12:51] <sigwada> i downloaded a bittorent file and i saw bittorrent under application>internet, how will i use it? what is the command line?
[12:51] <sn9> psik0: you may have to mess with the hotplug blacklist
[12:52] <hawking> how can i unmount a drive?
[12:52] <_sam> sn9: If I try to remove totem-gstreamer it wants to remove rhythmbox as well...
[12:52] <sn9> hawking: right click on it
[12:52] <seeker> Well, if your drive on your desktop?
[12:52] <sn9> _sam: install totem-xine
[12:52] <hawking> sn9: then?
[12:52] <salutis> hawking, right click and unmount item in context menu
[12:53] <seeker> yep yup
[12:53] <salutis> hawking, or "umount" command in terminal
[12:53] <psik0> sn9 thanks
[12:53] <sn9> hawking: there should be an option there
[12:53] <cheemp> how do i set the root password on mysql after install?
[12:53] <sigwada> i downloaded a bittorent file and i saw bittorrent under application>internet, how will i use it? what is the command line?
[12:53] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working.. anyone?
[12:54] <sn9> MaTaKs: install totem-xine
[12:54] <MaTaKs> i already have totem-xine
[12:54] <sn9> MaTaKs: and that has a browser plugin too?
[12:55] <MaTaKs> amm
[12:55] <MaTaKs> dunno
[12:55] <MaTaKs> i think not
[12:55] <vengeful> how do i open a folder with a space in...for example Program Files via the command line?
[12:55] <sn9> MaTaKs: then it already uses mplayer or vlc
[12:55] <sn9> vengeful: \
[12:55] <MaTaKs> no it's not it's using totem
[12:55] <sigwada> pls help how can i used bittorent under application>internet coz i downloaded a bittorent file. pls help
[12:56] <salutis> vengeful, try for example: cd "Program Files"
[12:56] <pef> hello
[12:56] <liable> vengeful: escape it with \ so /mnt/win/my\ documents/
[12:56] <MaTaKs> i want to make my mplayer to be the default player on my browser
[12:56] <sn9> MaTaKs: it probably alreday is
[12:56] <vengeful> thanks, liable, that worked
[12:57] <MaTaKs> i told you its using totem
[12:57] <liable> vengeful: or use tab completion..
[12:57] <sn9> MaTaKs: how can you tell?
[12:57] <vengeful> lol also works
[12:57] <vengeful> thanks
[12:57] <sigwada> pls help how can i used bittorent under application>internet coz i downloaded a bittorent file. pls help
[12:58] <badei> ooaoaoaoaoaoaooaoaooaoaaoaoaooaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaooaa
[12:58] <mizery> i have about 30 feet of light rope to use to design/spell something on my wall...any suggestions?
[12:58] <MaTaKs> man you ask too much just tell me how to make mplayer to be the default player on my browser
[12:58] <liable> badei: is that necessary?
[12:58] <sn9> sigwada: select your torrent file and tell it where to save. that's it
[12:58] <badei> who like Apoptygma berzerk?????
[12:58] <badei> i was singing
[12:59] <scummbar> someone with ITE82xx RAID controller ? I can't tune it up with ubuntu :(
[12:59] <badei> we're in this togheter
[12:59] <badei> you and me
[12:59] <enoon> sn9, i will try and compile a custom kernel now
[01:00] <salutis> how i unmaximize gaim from gnome tray?
[01:00] <badei> guys relax... you are thinking to much :)
[01:00] <b0r1z> hello, I'm looking for the ati card driver installation how-to at the ubuntuwiki, but I cant find it, can someone please tell me the url again?
[01:00] <salutis> how i unmaximize gaim from gnome tray? i looking for keyboard shortcut for this
[01:00] <badei> i'm so happy
[01:00] <sn9> b0r1z: 3 easy steps
[01:00] <moshe> hello
[01:01] <enoon> salutis, if gaim has the focus you can press alt f5
[01:01] <pepper> hello
[01:01] <moshe> I have X running in Breezy, now, but I have another problem.  Firefox gives me a strange error:
[01:01] <_sam> Ack, my firefox still comes up with this annoying totem player that can't do shit.
[01:01] <moshe> (Gecko:8320): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[01:01] <mizery> hrmm
[01:01] <moshe> I have pango and cairo installed.
[01:01] <moshe> anyone know how to fix this?
[01:01] <b0r1z> sn9 what steps?
[01:01] <salutis> enoon, but gaim is minimized in small icon. i don't have focus
[01:01] <sn9> b0r1z: #1 install the kernel best for you with linux-restricted-modules for it and xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:02] <ben> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade to the newest kernel but I keep getting a segmentation fault. I took a screencap and it's at http://mkultra.sytes.net/Screenshot-1.png. I can't boot into the new Kernel and it spits out errors about the RAMDISK and VFS being unable to sync.
[01:02] <pinucset> when open office 2 is released will it be upgraded via apt-get in mi ubuntu breezy or i'll have to download the tar.gz. from his website?
[01:02] <enoon> you said unmaximze.... just klick it
[01:02] <sn9> b0r1z: #2 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select fglrx
[01:02] <sigwada> why is that when i click bittorrent under application>internet, nothings happened? how can i used it
[01:02] <sn9> b0r1z: #3 reboot
[01:03] <b0r1z> sn9 I can do all this with the xserver and gone running?
[01:03] <enoon> salutis, with the left mouse button that is
[01:03] <b0r1z> *-gnome
[01:03] <shukhrat> hello
[01:03] <nightswim> how do I tell mplayer to keep the aspect ration constant if I resize the window
[01:03] <seeker> hello shukhrat
[01:03] <sn9> b0r1z: yes, but you will have to reboot if you change kernels
[01:03] <liable> ben: does your current one work? looks like a bug, or bad mem.
[01:03] <moshe> any takers?
[01:03] <salutis> enoon, but without mouse ..) only with keyboard
[01:03] <ben> liable, Current one works fine.
[01:03] <enoon> salutis, i dont think there is a way
[01:04] <b0r1z> sn9 thank you very much
[01:04] <enoon> salutis, not a simple one anyway
[01:04] <liable> ben: checked for bugs?
[01:04] <seeker> I know my mplayer doesn't do fullscreen well.
[01:04] <sigwada> why is that when i click bittorrent under application>internet, nothings happened? how can i used it
[01:04] <ben> liable, Nah. How do I go about that?
[01:04] <sigwada> pls help
[01:04] <shukhrat> People i need a Help !!! it's my first time in Ubuntu
[01:04] <seeker> It might have just been the show I was watching though.. I mean it doesn't actually do a fullscreen.
[01:04] <seeker> What's up Shuk?
[01:04] <salutis> enoon, ech. that is error
[01:04] <ben> liable, bugzilla?
[01:04] <liable> ben: i dont know the ubuntu bts url off hand, google ubuntu bugs
[01:05] <shukhrat> how install VGA driver for Ubuntu
[01:05] <shukhrat> &
[01:05] <ben> liable,  K.
[01:05] <shukhrat> ?
[01:05] <liable> !bts
[01:05] <ubotu> liable: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:05] <pinucset> shukhrat do you use nvidia or ati vga?
[01:05] <liable> ubotu: bugs
[01:05] <shukhrat> intell
[01:05] <shukhrat> intell vga internal
[01:05] <b0r1z> sn9 just another question, installing a linux-restricted package changes my kernel?
[01:06] <JDigital> It's a funny world where people ask if your graphics card is "nVidia or ATI?" without the possibilty that it can be anything else
[01:06] <drcode> hi all
[01:06] <deFrysk> b0r1z, nope just adds modules
[01:06] <drcode> any one know if I can do volume label with afio ?
[01:06] <seeker> hello drcode.
[01:06] <drcode> I need some help
[01:06] <drcode> I am using tape backup
[01:06] <psik0> sn9, the blacklist didn't worked
[01:06] <enoon> salutis, did you lok in the help
[01:06] <sn9> b0r1z: you install your choice of kernel, and then pick a linux-restricted-modules to match it
[01:06] <slept> JDigital, what is your card ?
[01:06] <drcode> and I want to do volume label  in same tape backup
[01:06] <JDigital> nVidia :)
[01:06] <shukhrat> pinucset
[01:07] <psik0> i915 module is loaded
[01:07] <pinucset> if you use nvdia you could do this:
[01:07] <MeidrA> ive upgraded from hoary to breezy
[01:07] <dpro\> how do make programs startup after gdm starts?
[01:07] <JDigital> me too
[01:07] <slept> JDigital, ;)
[01:07] <MeidrA> now i get this apt error when im usin apt
[01:07] <MeidrA> http://rafb.net/paste/results/l2o5Ig44.html
[01:07] <seeker> I don't know how to help you there drcode.. Hopefully someone else can.
[01:07] <shukhrat> seeker
[01:07] <pinucset> shukhrat http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[01:07] <drcode> thnx
[01:07] <shukhrat> where are u from
[01:07] <hendrik_> can somebody help me to install wireless internet on ubuntu i m just a beginner and just don' t know it
[01:08] <seeker> yes shuk?
[01:08] <liable> ubotu: bts is <reply> bug tracking system, or bugzilla, see https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[01:08] <ubotu> liable: okay
[01:08] <JDigital> pinucset: he has intel onboard video
[01:08] <JDigital> Heh, now that I think of it, all the computers in my house are nvidia
[01:08] <seeker> I'm from Arkansas..
[01:08] <sn9> hendrik_: which wireless card is it?
[01:08] <JDigital> actually, one is ATI
[01:08] <scummbar> someone with ITE82xx RAID controller ? I can't tune it up with ubuntu :(
[01:08] <JDigital> I have two Matrox cards but neither work
[01:08] <JDigital> er
[01:08] <JDigital> but neither are in use
[01:08] <sigwada> why is that when i click bittorrent under application>internet, nothings happened? how can i used it
[01:08] <b0r1z> sn9 I'm unsure on which modules to install, can you give me a tip?
[01:09] <sigwada> i want to open my bittorrent files but i dont know what to do? pls help!
[01:09] <spiral> hi
[01:09] <sn9> b0r1z: have you picked a kernel yet?
[01:09] <MeidrA> hello?? someone in here?? please i need to use apt-get immediately...
[01:09] <JDigital> sigwada: just double click on the torrent file
[01:09] <psik0> there isn't a page with all modules matching every hardware ?
[01:09] <slept> MeidrA, did you try dpkg --configure -a ?
[01:09] <enoon> salutis, ??
[01:10] <shukhrat> seeker it's in USA ?
[01:10] <b0r1z> sn9 I have the standard kernel that comes with breezy, Installed it yesterday
[01:10] <liable> ubotu: bts is <reply> i guess bts is bug tracking system, or bugzilla, see https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[01:10] <ubotu> liable: okay
[01:10] <sn9> b0r1z: which cpu do you have?
[01:10] <hendrik_> it is a card that is in my computer my computer supports wireless internet
[01:10] <seeker> yes shukhrat
[01:10] <shukhrat> Russian ?
[01:10] <MeidrA> slept: yes but i get the same error
[01:10] <seeker> USA
[01:10] <b0r1z> sn9 athlon xp 2000+
[01:10] <shukhrat> any Russian here ?
[01:10] <JDigital> I'd help but I'd have to get out of bed to click the link
[01:10] <liable> !ru
[01:10] <ubotu> liable: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:10] <sigwada> when i double click the torrent file, it ask me how to open it with...? what will i type? pls help
[01:10] <sn9> b0r1z: is that 64 bit or 32?
[01:10] <liable> !russian
[01:10] <ubotu> I don't know, liable
[01:11] <b0r1z> sn9 32
[01:11] <odat> hi everyone
[01:11] <cjhcjhcjh> help please; cant add apps; "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[01:11] <cjhcjhcjh>  The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program."
[01:11] <JDigital> sigwada: How odd. Have you installed bittorrent?
[01:11] <seeker> meidra what are you actually typing?
[01:11] <odat> anyone have any experience with tv cards in ubuntu?
[01:11] <MeidrA> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:11] <sn9> b0r1z: then you should install linux-image-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-k7 and xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:11] <seeker> hmmm
[01:11] <JDigital> odat: There's a piece of software called... dscaler
[01:12] <JDigital> That might be what you're looking for
[01:12] <JDigital> Look for it at sourceforge.net
[01:12] <shukhrat> liable do u speak in Russian ?
[01:12] <slept> MeidrA, the locales package is your only problem , try to install --reinstall that, if you get it the other will install fine
[01:12] <sigwada> ive seen a bittorrent in application>internet but i dont know how to used it. sorry coz im newbie in ubuntu
[01:12] <odat> JDigital, i have tried a bunch of linux tv apps and nothing seems to work i am thinking i am missing a piece of software or somethingt
[01:12] <shukhrat> cv
[01:12] <JDigital> cjhcjhcjh: check you're entering the password correctly
[01:13] <liable> shukhrat: sorry, no, i was trying to ask the bot, for a russian ubuntu channnel
[01:13] <JDigital> odat: Is this TV-in or TV-out?
[01:13] <b0r1z> sn9 thank you very much, I'm going to try
[01:13] <odat> JDigital, tv in
[01:13] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital, I checked...definitely the right password; I can su from a consule etc.
[01:13] <slept> odat, xawtv
[01:13] <sigwada> ive seen a bittorrent in application>internet but i dont know how to used it. sorry coz im newbie in ubuntu
[01:13] <enoon> salutis, i cant find it in the manual
[01:13] <liable> shukhrat: there is however #ubuntu-ru
[01:14] <shukhrat> People how install application in Ubunti please help i'am new in Linux
[01:14] <enoon> salutis, probably there is no way
[01:14] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital, and I typed the password into a text app to check keymappings etc
[01:14] <JDigital> odat: dscaler is what I used in Windows, I think there might be a Linux version.
[01:14] <shukhrat> where &
[01:14] <shukhrat> ?
[01:14] <hawking> does breezy have already java or do we have to install like it was in hoary?
[01:14] <SGT-DYKE> apt-get install +application
[01:14] <salutis> enoon, but it isnt not normal
[01:14] <liable> shukhrat: could you give me a sentence to tell russian people to join #ubuntu-ru?
[01:14] <enoon> salutis, what do you mean by that?
[01:14] <liable> shukhrat: /j #ubuntu-ru
[01:14] <odat> slept,  i tred xawtv and i am just getting snow reception
[01:14] <sn9> liable: i can
[01:15] <liable> shukhrat: its pretty empty though
[01:15] <liable> shukhrat: ok
[01:15] <hendrik_> can somebody help with my wireless internet my computer itselfs supports wireless internet
[01:15] <enoon> salutis, are you suggesting that a proper desktop environment should have everything accesible via mouse?
[01:15] <JDigital> There should be a trigger you can type like !ru that says "Please join #ubuntu-ru for Russian support", in Russian :)
[01:15] <liable> sn9: or make a factoid for it..
[01:15] <enoon> salutis, this is an issue with gnome not ubun tu anyway
[01:15] <JDigital> There should be an #ubuntu-ie for Irish speakers
[01:15] <eythian> Hi, can someone please tell me the sources.list line to add if I want to upgrade from hoary to breezy with a CD?
[01:16] <liable> to be sure.. :P
[01:16] <salutis> enoon, yes
[01:16] <enoon> salutis, you can try and check if kde or some of the other windowmanagers have sucha feature
[01:16] <MeidrA> seeker: : http://rafb.net/paste/results/OIxsZE76.html
[01:16] <sigwada> pls help until now i cant open my bittorent files, ive seen a bittorrent under application>internet but i dont know how to use it. pls help
[01:16] <Zapata> I Can't type "@" in VNC with SE/FI Keyboard, how do i fix it?
[01:16] <slept> odat, maybe you have to change line-in or tune like with a normal tv
[01:16] <SGT-DYKE> i just install Ubuntu and... now....    what should i do
[01:16] <JDigital> sigwada: Open Applications > Internet > BitTorrent and a file requester should pop up
[01:16] <enoon> if you are into keyboard over mouse a lot i suggest you have a look at wmi
[01:16] <salutis> enoon, i trying in #gnome channel ..)
[01:16] <JDigital> Pick the bittorrent file in that file requester
[01:16] <seeker> k
[01:17] <sigwada> that my problem, when i click the bittorrent, nothings happened even pop-up omn the screen, i dont know what to do. pls help
[01:17] <ben> How would i view what filesystems are used on my partitions?
[01:17] <ben> I think it might be the key to fixing my kernel panic
[01:18] <slept> SGT-DYKE, get familiar with your system , look at the menu play some games , feel good :)
[01:18] <sven-tek_gaim> Wow, kernel.org has huge new system: "We are in the process of cutting over to new server hardware, graciously donated by       Hewlett-Packard.  We have now deployed the first       of two separate       ProliantDL585       quad Opteron servers, each with 24GB of RAM and 10TB of disk.  Huge thanks to HP!      "
[01:18] <liable> sn9: how about "russian speakers please /join #ubuntu-ru, though it may be a little quiet there" or somesuch..
[01:18] <shukhrat> Good !!! no one in russian room
[01:18] <slept> ben, did you compile a kernel yourself ?
[01:18] <JDigital> sigwada: Perhaps you need to install bittorrent first
[01:18] <SGT-DYKE> yeah slept .... but... i can't play my battlefield 2 game
[01:18] <sven-tek_gaim> anyone here ever used a kernel 2.4 on ubuntu?
[01:18] <eythian> can someone who has installed breezy from a CD please tell me the line in sources.list that refers to the CD-ROM?
[01:19] <ben> slept,  No. I'm using the K7 image but it panics and gives a RAMDISK error and then VFS fails to sync because it can't mount the filesystem or something
[01:19] <JDigital> eythian: use synaptic :)
[01:19] <eythian> JDigital: synaptic doesn't do it
[01:19] <JDigital> Doesn't Synaptic have an "add CD" menu option?
[01:19] <shukhrat> could somebody explain me how increase resolution Monitor ? Please
[01:19] <eythian> JDigital: oh
[01:19] <sigwada> how will i install bittorrent? what will i tyoe in the command line? or what will i do to obtain one? pls help
[01:19] <eythian> I'll check
[01:19] <scummbar> someone with ITE82xx RAID controller ? I can't tune it up with ubuntu :(
[01:20] <JDigital> sigwada: Use "add applications" in the Applications menu.
[01:20] <Zapata> I Can't type "@" in VNC with an SE/FI Keyboard, how do i fix it?
[01:20] <liable> sigwada: do you have to end every line with "pls help?"
[01:20] <sigwada> ok
[01:21] <crapface> can someone please help me figure out how to install java runtime?
[01:21] <liable> sigwada: apt-cache search torrent
[01:21] <ek0> hey folks, GRUB is producing error 17 and just won't start. is there any idea on how i can fix that ?
[01:21] <liable> !java
[01:21] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:21] <crapface> thank you
[01:21] <slept> ben, forget about the filesystem thats not the reason ext3 and reiser are both compiled in , if you don't know what your filesystem is you mostlikely have one of those
[01:21] <sn9> liable: ?????????? ??????? ? #ubuntu-ru ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ?????.
[01:22] <JDigital> sn9: why all the question marks
[01:22] <sn9> liable: sorry for the delay; stupid gtk didn't cooperate
[01:22] <liable> slept: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[01:22] <ben> slept, Ok. Well check out http://127.0.0.1/Screenshot-1.png
[01:22] <sn9> JDigital: they are not ?'s
[01:22] <ben> slept, I figure I need to run mkinitramfs manualy
[01:23] <liable> sn9: hrm, thats your version of russian? :P
[01:23] <JDigital> sn9: I see nothing but quetsion marks
[01:23] <ben> slept, Sorry. Replace loopback with mkultra.sytes.net
[01:23] <wezzer> eh :P
[01:23] <wezzer> 12.0.0.1 ?
[01:23] <sn9> liable: i am using utf-8
[01:23] <JDigital> me too
[01:23] <liable> sn9: me too.
[01:23] <ben> wezzer, as above. ;)
[01:23] <JDigital> sup utf-8 buddy
[01:23] <JDigital> 
[01:24] <sn9> JDigital: that was a blank line
[01:24] <JDigital> Odd.
[01:24] <liable> sn9: can you try again?
[01:24] <JDigital> Are you sure you are using utf-8 in freenode?
[01:24] <topyli> i saw it fine
[01:24] <sn9> liable: ?????????? ??????? ? #ubuntu-ru ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ?????.
[01:24] <liable> hrm..
[01:24] <joh> Hmm, if I'm behind a firewall which I have no access to, is it possible to allow a remote machine have access to say... vnc? through an ssh tunnel perhaps?
[01:25] <mario> does anyone here uses debfoster?
[01:25] <liable> mario: yes
[01:25] <topyli> sn9: but your "russian" doesn't come through here
[01:25] <JDigital> I am seeing sn9 saying "liable: ????????? ???????? ? #ubuntu-ru ??? ????? ?? ????????? ??????."
[01:25] <eazel7> hi ppl
[01:25] <liable> sn9: can you right it in english?
[01:25] <sigwada> when i type apt-get search torrent ive got this ,bittorrent - Scatter-gather network file transfer
[01:25] <sigwada> gnome-btdownload - Gnome interface for 'executing' BitTorrent files.
[01:25] <sigwada> whats next to open my bittorent files?
[01:25] <ek0> hey folks, GRUB is producing error 17 and just won't start. is there any idea on how i can fix that ?
[01:26] <topyli> sigwada: click on them
[01:26] <JDigital> You can't click on apt-get.
[01:26] <mario> i have a problem with debfoster, now it stoped working, i install packs and debfoster tells me there is no orphans ?!?! :(
[01:26] <sigwada> what will i click?
[01:26] <liable> ek0: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[01:26] <JDigital> sigwada: The "Add Applications" program is the easiest way to install things.
[01:26] <ben> slept,  Looks to me like I might have to do mkinitramfs manualy. What do you think?
[01:26] <sn9> liable: ok: Please enter #ubuntu-ru for help in the Russian language.
[01:26] <liable> ek0: are you doing homework?
[01:26] <topyli> JDigital: oh, you have to install the client first of course
[01:26] <Jemt> Greetings. I want to remove OpenOffice.org2 but it seems that ubuntu-desktop depends on OpenOffice. Does any of your guys know a work-around that could solve my problem ?
[01:27] <El_Che> Jemt: just remove it, it's a meta-package, not a real one
[01:27] <topyli> Jemt: removing ubuntu-desktop is ok
[01:27] <liable> sn9: hrm, can you not write it in english chars, but speaking russian?
[01:27] <sigwada> where could i find the "Add Application" program
[01:27] <Jemt> Thanks alot, guys!
[01:27] <JDigital> sigwada: Use the "Add Applications" option in the Applications menu.
[01:27] <slept> ben, you can try to install --reinstall maybe you'll get a working image
[01:27] <JDigital> Are you using Breezy?
[01:28] <Jemt> How can I see whether a package is a meta package or a real package ?
[01:28] <ek0> liable, the problem is that GRUB totally hangs.
[01:28] <liable> Jemt: apt-cache show foo
[01:28] <ben> slept, Do I use the .deb file as the source?
[01:28] <sn9> liable: ok: Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke.
[01:29] <liable> sn9: :)
[01:29] <slept> ben, if that doesn't help you'll have to make your own
[01:29] <Jemt> Great, thanks again :)
[01:29] <Jemt> Bye
[01:29] <slept> ben, yes you should always use debs .
[01:29] <_BEN_> Damnit
[01:30] <_BEN_> Looks like I was using someone else's nick name and they connected. ;)
[01:30] <_BEN_> slept, Do I use the .deb file as the source?
[01:30] <sn9> liable: if you type exactly those letters in gtk's cyrillic input method, it will come out just right.
[01:30] <slept> _BEN_, source for what ? in general always use debs
[01:30] <liable> ubotu: ru is <reply> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:30] <ubotu> liable: okay
[01:30] <_BEN_> slept, for 'install' I've never actually used the program, only Synaptic
[01:30] <liable> !ru
[01:30] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:31] <liable> sn9: ok?
[01:31] <sn9> liable: if you type exactly those letters in gtk's cyrillic input method, it will come out just right.
[01:31] <sigwada> all i can see under application are accesories,internet,games,graphics,multimedia,office,system tools,help,run application, i dont see any "add application", where can i find that?
[01:31] <shukhrat> hui vam
[01:31] <shukhrat> est kto na ruskom govorit ?
[01:31] <liable> shukhrat: that makes sense?
[01:32] <sn9> shukhrat: q mogu
[01:32] <slept> _BEN_, that makes no difference . Synapti should be abe to reinstall aswell , but I never used it . Maybe someelse can tell you
[01:32] <shukhrat> i hopr
[01:32] <seife> Hi i installed the w32codecs but i still dont see the .wmv video, i have sound but not video
[01:32] <shukhrat> i hope
[01:32] <dandelion> hello
[01:32] <_BEN_> slept, It comes up with the same error :(
[01:32] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working.. anyone?
[01:32] <shukhrat> sn9 nu Nakonechz!
[01:32] <shukhrat> ura
[01:32] <shukhrat> !
[01:32] <ubotu> shukhrat: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:33] <sigwada> all i can see under application are accesories,internet,games,graphics,multimedia,office,system tools,help,run application, i dont see "add application", where can i find that?
[01:33] <slept> _BEN_, ??? I tought you get a grub-error ?? how can you boot that fast ?
[01:33] <dandelion> can anyone tell me which file to edit to alter my user's Path? Using bash's files (bashrc, bash_profile) only works for gnome terminal... the gnome menu and panel launchers still use the default path....
[01:33] <shukhrat> neponal !
[01:33] <mario> there is any problem with archive.ubuntu.com ?!?!
[01:33] <_BEN_> slept,  Did you look at my screencap?
[01:33] <shukhrat> ti gde ?
[01:33] <liable> shukhrat: please speak english here.
[01:33] <sigwada> anyone can tell me where can i find the "add application" in the application menu?
[01:34] <slept> _BEN_, yes but I couldn't read it , bad quality. I tought you wanted to show me that you installed a kernel
[01:34] <El_Che> sigwada: system-administration
[01:34] <ranjeeth_> i  am using intel 915 gav mother board , i have audio & video drivers for susi linux how i can use it for ubuntu
[01:34] <El_Che> bbl
[01:34] <_BEN_> slept,  Oh, no. You've gotta enlarge the picture. It's very readable.
[01:34] <_BEN_> slept, It shows the segmentation fault with mkinitramfs during the install
[01:35] <bazz> hi
[01:35] <liable> ranjeeth_: if it works for suse, then it should work for ubuntu, unless they are rpms, or something
[01:35] <bazz> i'm having problems with dual boot in fedora core
[01:36] <bazz> i first installed fedora core 4, after that ubuntu
[01:36] <liable> ranjeeth_: are these closed source binary rpm's?
[01:36] <bazz> at first i could boot into both
[01:36] <sigwada> i do have here i fresh install ubuntu and ive downloaded a torrent files, how can i open it? what will i type in the command line?
[01:37] <liable> sigwada: type bit <tab> <tab>
[01:37] <bazz> i don't use fedora for anything but school, so it's a while ago i booted in it. It now seems i can't get into fedora anymore
[01:37] <bazz> even if i say fedora, it boots in ubuntu
[01:37] <firestorm> Hi. I dist-upgraded and now Xorg is very broken. I get 'Warning: font renderer for ".pcf, snf, bdf, pmf" already registered at priority 0....No symbols found for libGLcore....and X server shuts down straight away...any help please?
[01:38] <bazz> have looked in grub.conf
[01:38] <javi_> how do i install luminocity in breezy.
[01:38] <spear> hi there !
[01:38] <bazz> anyone who can help solving this dualboot
[01:39] <spear> i don't know
[01:40] <slept> _BEN_, oh, never saw that before. Do you need a new kernel ? or do you get it just because it's availanble ?
[01:40] <liable> bazz: so what happens when you boot?
[01:40] <JDigital> !dualboot
[01:40] <ubotu> dualboot is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:40] <scummbar> someone can tell me where's the boot logo option 2.6.12?
[01:40] <_BEN_> slept, I'm just trying to install it because it's the most recent. I also just switched up to Breezy.
[01:40] <spear> you need usplash scummbar
[01:40] <slept> bazz, you have to edit the menulist or do update-grub
[01:41] <rohal> can some one plz post his grub.conf for ubuntu i386
[01:41] <bazz> liable it just seems to boot in fedora
[01:41] <bazz> but it doesn't
[01:41] <bazz> i get ubuntu instead
[01:41] <liable> bazz: can you boot at all?
[01:41] <liable> ok
[01:41] <bazz> but the kernel is FC4
[01:41] <spear> anybody knows why suddenly Grub doesn't detect my Windows partition via update-grub ??? It can ben changed manually, but i was wondering
[01:41] <bazz> (uname -r output)
[01:41] <rohal> can some one plz post his grub.conf for ubuntu i386
[01:42] <liable> bazz: can you paste your menus.list, the poutput of fdisk -l to a paster
[01:42] <ompaul> rohal, for ubuntu alone or ubuntu with windows?
[01:42] <bazz> ok brb
[01:42] <liable> wow, that was some bad spelling.. :(
[01:44] <scummbar> someone can tell me where's the boot logo option 2.6.12?
[01:44] <spear> what option ???
[01:44] <JDigital> No idea. Try #linux
[01:44] <spear> in the kernel, what software is needed ?
[01:44] <spear> be more precise
[01:44] <bazz> liable: is it possible that i can't log in to it because i've only got 1 swap partition?
[01:45] <sigwada> when i click BitTorrent under applications>internet, nothings happen, what will i do to use it?
[01:45] <DarkFame> sigwada, are you sure it's not already running?
[01:45] <JDigital> sigwada: Did you install it yet with the Add Programs thing?
[01:45] <liable> bazz: no, how many swaps do you think it needs? :P
[01:45] <rohal> ompaul: that doesnt matter...i just want to c the settings for ubuntu...
[01:45] <bazz> liable, i only have 1 swap partition for both distro's
[01:45] <bazz> that's what i meant ;)
[01:46] <liable> bazz: no thats fine.
[01:46] <sigwada> how could i know if my bittorent is already running? ido nt see anything happen or appear in the screen.
[01:46] <bazz> ok, system's almost up
[01:46] <bazz> will paste it
[01:46] <JDigital> ARg.
[01:46] <JDigital> sigwada: sudo apt-get install gnome-bittorrent
[01:46] <rohal> can some one plz post his grub.conf for booting ubuntu......
[01:46] <spear> have a good day, bye !
[01:46] <DarkFame> sigwada, open up a terminal and type: gnome-btdownload
[01:47] <liable> rohal: well it'll be different depending on partitions etc..
[01:47] <eythian> erk, I think this upgrade is going to break my system :(
[01:47] <ompaul> rohal paste.ubuntulinux.nl under noworries
[01:47] <Dynamite> sn9: Do you have a minute?
[01:47] <sn9> ok
[01:47] <liable> eythian: think positive..
[01:47] <starscalling> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:48] <starscalling> checkinstall is SWEET!
[01:48] <Knorrie> sn9: thanks for the hightlight ;)
[01:48] <Dynamite> sn9: I wanted to thank you very much for your help! I'm chatting with you from the Ubuntu Live Cd
[01:48] <rohal> liable: dont worry ill change those all according to my needs...i m using grub from gentoo...
[01:48] <eythian> liable: :) It's removing a lot more than it should be. Things like ubuntu-desktop.
[01:48] <DarkFame> Dynamite, don't use Live... Install it! :)
[01:48] <sn9> Knorrie: it was a typo. supposed to be knoppix_
[01:48] <liable> eythian: paste it
[01:48] <Dynamite> sn9: The Problem was with the virtual RAID just like you said!
[01:48] <Knorrie> sn9: never mind ;)
[01:48] <liable> rohal: #flood
[01:49] <Dynamite> DArkFame: I'm going to install it this weekend ! Ubuntu is the best!!!!
[01:49] <starscalling> hehe
[01:49] <rohal> liable: couldnt get wht do u mean?
[01:49] <hugo> what packages do i need to a compile a simple C program that uses stdio.h ? i installed make and gcc, and that libraries are not available.
[01:49] <starscalling> Dynamite: its working awesome over here
[01:49] <Nabojim> I'm chatting from the live CD because I couldn
[01:49] <bazz> liable it's in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:49] <eythian> liable: there's far too much to paste. It doesn't matter, I know I can fix it when it's done, it's just going to take twice as long.
[01:49] <starscalling> which is REALLY impressive since i break everything
[01:49] <starscalling> :P
[01:49] <deFrysk> omg we have ubuntu extremists here :s
[01:49] <Nabojim> Wrong button sorry
[01:50] <sn9> Dynamite: did you find the right driver for the fakeraid?
[01:50] <DexterF_> hi
[01:50] <Nabojim> I couldn't install Ubuntu I just get cd rom failure on boot up
[01:50] <dazvid> How do I setup samba to work with a simple peer-to-peer network?
[01:50] <Monteiro> what packages do i need to compile C programs ?
[01:50] <sigwada> when i type sudo apt-get install gnome-bittorrent, i got this msg E: Couldn't find package gnome-bittorrent what will i do?
[01:50] <Dynamite> sn9; No, I just removed the cd ribbon just like you said and put the cdrom on the same ide cord as the hardrive
[01:50] <DexterF_> how do I tell Xorg about my monitor config? I have 1280@60Hz right now
[01:50] <noodles_> Morning - Q)  How do you change the background/font colour in bash?  -Default bg=white, fontcolor=black... Desired BGcolor=black, font color=green
[01:50] <liable> rohal: /j #flood
[01:50] <eythian> Monteiro: just install build-essentials
[01:50] <fforw> Monteiro: build-essential
[01:50] <Dynamite> sn9: The harddrive is Master while the Cdrom is slave
[01:51] <eythian> err, what fforw said
[01:51] <bazz> sigwada: apt-cache search torrent ; and take another client
[01:51] <rohal> ompaul:k thanks a lot...u seems to be from india?
[01:51] <liable> eythian: k
[01:51] <eythian> erk, it just removed gtk
[01:51] <Monteiro> fforw : tks :)
[01:51] <Monteiro> eythian : tks :)
[01:51] <Dynamite> sn9: Ubuntu detected all my Hardware in a second! even my bultin sound card that I have problems with on XP
[01:51] <sn9> Dynamite: last thing i told you was the name of the most likely driver to use with the fakeraid, if you need more ide devices
[01:51] <ompaul> rohal, na
[01:51] <Knorrie> noodles_: menu edit -> current profile
[01:52] <nekostar> o.O
[01:52] <nekostar> see that?
[01:52] <Dynamite> sn9: Thanks for your help, I'm grateful
[01:52] <nekostar> thats xchat 2.4.5!
[01:52] <ompaul> rohal, how did you construct that one :) then I will tell you
[01:52] <Dynamite> sn9: :D
[01:52] <nekostar> \o/
[01:52] <sigwada> how could i take another client?
[01:53] <rohal> ompaul: is it important to specify initrd?
[01:53] <DarkFame> sigwada, did you try typing gnome-bitdownload in a terminal?
[01:53] <ompaul> that is a default box that was apt-get dist-upgraded
[01:53] <Knorrie> sigwada:  apt-cache search torrent
[01:53] <DarkFame> correction: gnome-btdownload
[01:53] <ompaul> all things are default
[01:54] <JDigital> Why release your own codec pack? There are already Defilerpak and CCCP.
[01:54] <ompaul> rohal, both of those comments where for you
[01:54] <noodles_> Knorrie - yip..there it is!  Thanks man...
[01:54] <odat> anyone know how to manually edit your modules?
[01:54] <GreenFireD> hello
[01:54] <Knorrie> noodles_: np
[01:54] <bazz> liable any luck finding the probelem?
[01:54] <ompaul> rohal, what maked you say .in ?
[01:54] <St^Anger^19m> !xfce
[01:54] <ubotu> I heard xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[01:54] <ompaul> rohal, I am in .ie
[01:54] <liable> bazz: sorry, forgot about ya, sec
[01:55] <starscalling> bum
[01:55] <lochok> Sorry- I'm kinda new to this. I'm using WINE to run a couple of old windows programs - is there any way to drop my Color Depth to 256 Colors - a couple of games are refusing  to run citing that
[01:55] <GreenFireD> people, Is UBUNTU is so slow like on my comp?
[01:55] <DarkFame> odat, like /etc/modules ?
[01:55] <bazz> liable no problem :)
[01:55] <starscalling> if i put in xfce do i need to take out current desktop?
[01:55] <sigwada> when i type gnome-btdownload in root terminal, i got this msg, Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:55] <sigwada>   File "/usr/bin/gnome-btdownload", line 4, in ?
[01:55] <sigwada>     import BitTorrent.download, BitTorrent.bencode
[01:55] <sigwada> ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download
[01:55] <sigwada> what does it means?
[01:55] <St^Anger^19m> starscalling, no..u can choose between both
[01:55] <slept> odat, type apropos modules in a term to see what you can do
[01:55] <Knorrie> it means: use pastebin.com ;)
[01:55] <odat> DarkFame, i am trying to edit my modules and set the proper tv tuner card that i am using
[01:55] <starscalling> hrm
[01:56] <JDigital> Maybe you need to install bittorrent
[01:56] <JDigital> sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[01:56] <starscalling> because the last time i had this installed
[01:56] <starscalling> i did
[01:56] <starscalling> apt-get install kbuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <GreenFireD> people, Is UBUNTU is so slow like on my comp? it's take many time to switch between windows, to open program etc..
[01:56] <DarkFame> sigwada, sounds broken to me. try apt-get install gnome-btdownload --fix-missing
[01:56] <starscalling> and tossed both in and things started breaking from there :)
[01:56] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: no
[01:56] <slept> odat, lsmod ,insmod and rmmod and modprobe are the most important
[01:56] <lochok> I ended up changing to Enlightenment - I'm a n00b and it wasn't too hard to set up and 5x faster
[01:56] <dazvid> GreenFireD, mine is fast as normal
[01:57] <fforw> GreenFireD: except when the apps are swapped out
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> i only tried kubuntu-desktop till now
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> and it seems ok
[01:57] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, witch computer need for this linux?
[01:57] <rohal> ompaul:i m getting a kernel panic....i was installing ubuntu....so installation isnt complete yet.....it has just copied everything to hard disc....then it asked to restart.....& as i havnt installed bootloader for it.......so coulnt boot into it
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> i preferred kde on 5.04
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> but now i prefer gnome on 5.10
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> weird
[01:57] <GreenFireD> maybe my is too slow
[01:57] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: is it *always* that slow, or is there a runaway process somewhere?
[01:57] <odat> slept, i can't seem to unload the bttv module because it is always in use
[01:57] <starscalling> St^Anger^19m: do you use kubuntu then?
[01:58] <liable> bazz: try changing the root= for the fedora partition to root=/dev/hda4 ro
[01:58] <fforw> how am I supposed to set things link /proc/sys/vm/swappiness in ubuntu? should I make me an own init script?
[01:58] <lochok> I found itwas on my 600mhz/64MB Laptop
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> for 5.10 no
[01:58] <odat> slept,  there is a text file to edit but i can't seem to find it that is your module.conf or conf.modules
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> for 5.04...yes i did
[01:58] <lochok> Does anybody know how to drop X to 256 colors?
[01:58] <dazvid> How do I setup samba to work with a simple peer-to-peer network?
[01:58] <starscalling> ah
[01:58] <ompaul> rohal, what version are youtrying to install?
[01:58] <shinu> is it easy to share my printer over a network so that linux and windows xp computers can use it?
[01:58] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, always, like when i am hide  firefox, I see square till it's hided
[01:58] <bazz> liable ok, trying it right now
[01:59] <starscalling> are you using kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop in this run St^Anger^19m ?
[01:59] <St^Anger^19m> yes
[01:59] <St^Anger^19m> but i find myself in gnome all the time
[01:59] <starscalling> right
[01:59] <St^Anger^19m> its suiting all my needs up to now
[01:59] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, I can't explain it, but it's very slow..
[01:59] <salutis> how i can disable highlight hypertext e-mail and web links in spreadsheet?
[01:59] <bazz> liable: error 11: unrecognized device string \n press any key to continue..
[01:59] <starscalling> i just want other desktops to play with :P
[02:00] <Dynamite> Bye Everyone, Thanks for everything. You certainly are the heart of Ubuntu's Community!
[02:00] <jcs> I need to install breezy with a patched kernel: how easy is it to rebuild a new installer?  Is there a guide anywhere on this subject?
[02:00] <ompaul> rohal, again I ask: what version are youtrying to install?
[02:00] <GreenFireD> witch computer recommended to install this linux?
[02:00] <joel> ey there!
[02:00] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: I have a 1200mhz with 512 mb ram, and that works fine
[02:00] <liable> bazz: hrm gimme the line
[02:00] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: ram is more important than cpu power
[02:00] <bazz> the line?
[02:00] <cafuego_> starscalling: right-click on the pager and set it to as many desktops as you like
[02:00] <St^Anger^19m> xfce seems cool
[02:00] <St^Anger^19m> i never used it though
[02:00] <slept> odat, that file is in /etc, but that module should be right if it gets loaded
[02:01] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, I am also have 521 ram..
[02:01] <bazz> root=/dev/hda4 ro
[02:01] <St^Anger^19m> cafuego, he was referring to desktop environments
[02:01] <sgt-dyke_> hey everyone.. i want to download fluxbox .....   apt-get install fluxbox..   but it,s written no such file...
[02:01] <starscalling> lol
[02:01] <starscalling> i do cafuego that is set to 6
[02:01] <cafuego_> St^Anger^19m: He should have been more precise then ;-)
[02:01] <sgt-dyke_> maybe i have to change my source but i don't no how
[02:01] <starscalling> but kde and gnome are different looking
[02:01] <St^Anger^19m> :)
[02:01] <starscalling> i dont really like kde lots and lots
[02:01] <starscalling> but its time to set up some d3b settings >_>
[02:01] <cafuego_> starscalling: Well, there are really only three, the rest are just windowmanagers.
[02:01] <starscalling> window managers?
[02:01] <cafuego_> fours, perhaps.
[02:01] <starscalling> ic
[02:02] <St^Anger^19m> kde looks colourful...for windows users its more attractive..as it was to me....but in the end.....gnome is simplistic
[02:02] <cafuego_> Gnome, KDE, XFCE and 9wm.
[02:02] <mrcreativ> how do i install ubuntu iof there is no gui?
[02:02] <taomaster> i use gnome but - i installed kde and it;s not bad
[02:02] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: use `top` to see if there are processes that eat too much cpu, or too much mem
[02:02] <odat> slept, bttv is unable to correctly identify my tv tuner but i know which one it is and i want to manually set it
[02:02] <jcs> sgt-dyke_: you can add the universe repositories by uncommenting out the appropriate lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <starscalling> i like the looks of gnome
[02:02] <starscalling> kinda
[02:02] <starscalling> XD
[02:02] <mrcreativ> anyone?
[02:02] <bazz> liable: it uses fedora's kernel, but boots into ubuntu
[02:02] <St^Anger^19m> !9wm
[02:02] <ubotu> St^Anger^19m: I haven't a clue
[02:02] <starscalling> i dont want kde b/c that looks like my win machine
[02:02] <bazz> a bit strange..
[02:02] <taomaster> i use gnome 98% of the time
[02:02] <starscalling> i want something a tad different :)
[02:02] <mrcreativ> im downloading it
[02:02] <taomaster> but
[02:03] <jcs> mrcreativ: You put the CD in the drive, reboot, and follow the instructions.
[02:03] <starscalling> so lets see here
[02:03] <taomaster> kde is not that bad
[02:03] <liable> bazz: can you paste the kernel line/
[02:03] <mrcreativ> but i dont know if ill be able to install it since i dont know the command lines
[02:03] <starscalling> no its not bad
[02:03] <liable> ?
[02:03] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, what is top?
[02:03] <ompaul> cafuego_, if only I had my original fvwm config files back around ohh fvwm2 beta
[02:03] <slept> odat, what is it, you know the name of the module ?
[02:03] <starscalling> i just want something a bit different...
[02:03] <cafuego_> starscalling: 9wm is for YOU then.
[02:03] <taomaster> never really used kde b -4
[02:03] <bazz> kernel                /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
[02:03] <DarkFame> gnome feels more complete
[02:03] <mrcreativ> i have installes SUSE and XANDROS.
[02:03] <starscalling> 9wm? ok ill google it
[02:03] <jcs> mrcreativ, the installer is not command-line based.  Unless things break, you will not need to use a command line.
[02:03] <St^Anger^19m> gnome and kde suffer from something....at least on my machine......they are not as snappy as the windows GUI :(
[02:03] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: a program, run in the console, is shows you active processes and memory usage
[02:03] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: s/is/it/
[02:03] <mrcreativ> so do i need to know command lines or not?
[02:04] <liable> bazz: change root=LABEL tp root=/dev/hda4
[02:04] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: you dont
[02:04] <jcs> mrcreativ: no.
[02:04] <mrcreativ> thanks.
[02:04] <taomaster> i have suse and ubuntu and windows in my box
[02:04] <mrcreativ> so even partitioning
[02:04] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: CLI is VERY useful in ubuntu
[02:04] <mrcreativ> is easy
[02:04] <mrcreativ> thats why im installing linux. i wanna learn
[02:04] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, What i need to write in console?
[02:04] <starscalling> is there a package for it in ubuntu or should i use the debian package for 9wm cafuego ?
[02:04] <bazz> ok trying to boot now
[02:04] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: or applications -> system tools -> system monitor :)
[02:04] <cafuego_> starscalling: Just don't cry when you see it.
[02:04] <DarkFame> St^Anger^19m, gnome has anti aliased fonts etc. which makes it more demanding.
[02:04] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: the definition of easy is a bit ... too flexible
[02:04] <cafuego_> !info 9wm
[02:04] <starscalling> er
[02:04] <ubotu> 9wm: (emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[02:04] <odat> slept,  bttv
[02:05] <starscalling> yeah i should find a screenshot
[02:05] <topyli> mrcreativ: not necessarily, but it's very a effective way to get many things done that require lots of clicking and searching in the gui
[02:05] <GreenFireD> Knorrie,  ok
[02:05] <bazz> error 6 mounting ext2; kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!
[02:05] <cafuego_> starscalling: The screen shot would be a rectangle of blue.
[02:05] <bazz> error dup2'ing fd of 0 to 0,1 and 2
[02:05] <mrcreativ> topyli...i agree.
[02:05] <cafuego_> starscalling: (and ONLY blue)
[02:05] <napsy> Hi. I have breezy and tried to compile sysprof. I have all the required packages installed but configure prints: "checking for gtk+-2.0 > 2.6.0 gthread-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-2.0 pangoft2 libglade-2.0.. . configure: error: sysprof dependencies not satisfied". What else do I need?
[02:05] <sigwada> i think ive lost my gnome-btdownload, how could i get it back again?
[02:05] <june> hi
[02:05] <starscalling> o!
[02:05] <St^Anger^19m> u can get xfce to look almost like a MAC gui
[02:05] <starscalling> i had that one
[02:05] <St^Anger^19m> looks nice
[02:05] <slept> odat, than the module that you want is loaded , what do you want to change ?
[02:05] <starscalling> you right click for a menu right?
[02:05] <mrcreativ> but if i have any questions about ubuntu and linux, even very basic question, i can ask here right?
[02:05] <St^Anger^19m> is it that practical though?
[02:05] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: just start a terminal window for that applications -> accessoires -> terminal, that's fun :)
[02:05] <cafuego_> starscalling: yep
[02:05] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: yes
[02:05] <starscalling> yeah that was sweet
[02:05] <starscalling> i think i saw something about openbox too
[02:06] <starscalling> but on one of those
[02:06] <azuroth> is talking happening here?
[02:06] <starscalling> i couldnt find my other screens
[02:06] <starscalling> can i run gdesklets on it?
[02:06] <mrcreativ> kbrooks...but will i be helped with all the taunting
[02:06] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: we're very inviting, though we may tell you to read manual pages
[02:06] <cafuego_> azuroth:  No, just typing.
[02:06] <Knorrie> azuroth: i guess so, lol
[02:06] <cafuego_> starscalling: Nah
[02:06] <dazvid> Has anyone setup samba on a  peer network who can help me?
[02:06] <june> me i dont know about thiis
[02:06] <starscalling> lol
[02:06] <starscalling> hrm
[02:06] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: i dont understand what you are asking
[02:06] <mrcreativ> kbrooks...i dont have a manual. where can i get one?
[02:06] <cafuego_> starscalling: Well, MAYBE on openbox, certainly not on plan9.
[02:06] <azuroth> guhah! fooled you all!
[02:06] <june> gago
[02:06] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, wait, I will send you screenshot..
[02:06] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: i mean inn ubuntu
[02:07] <mrcreativ> kbrooks....i dont have much experience in linux actually.
[02:07] <slept> dazvid, maybe
[02:07] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: you run `man command' in terminal. more easier than waiting for help.
[02:07] <mrcreativ> i c
[02:07] <queuetue> Is NFS-over-vpn the only option for an encrypted, shared mountpoint?
[02:07] <dazvid> slept, i only have 1 windows client, so its not a huge project
[02:07] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: no, just look for a few seconds and see which processes are taking much cpu time, or much memory
[02:08] <kbrooks> mrcreativ: if you are that is
[02:08] <mrcreativ> i bbl guys. thanks for all ur help
[02:08] <kbrooks> er would be
[02:08] <enoon> all, does the system-preferences-keyboard dialogue work for anyone
[02:08] <slept> dazvid, that doesn't mather its always the same work to set up a server
[02:08] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: at the resources tab, look if there is much 'Used swap'
[02:08] <slept> dazvid, how far did you get ?
[02:08] <dazvid> Well its not a server as such, just need to enable internet sharing
[02:08] <dazvid> I havent done anything
[02:09] <topyli> enoon: sure it works. it's a different matter that my keyboard model is not listed there :)
[02:09] <dazvid> just searched for howto's with no luck
[02:09] <bazz> liable still there? ;)
[02:09] <liable> bazz: yup
[02:09] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, 0 ..
[02:09] <St^Anger^19m> i prelinked my system
[02:09] <bazz> what else could it be?
[02:09] <St^Anger^19m> !prelink
[02:09] <ubotu> methinks prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[02:09] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8656/screenshot3gk.png look
[02:09] <liable> dazvid: you mean you want the box to be a router?
[02:09] <St^Anger^19m> but not all apps were successful
[02:09] <dazvid> liable, pretty much yeh
[02:10] <liable> bazz: did you change the line as i said/
[02:10] <enoon> it does not whine when you activate misc-special keys in layout options?
[02:10] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: looks nice :|
[02:10] <topyli> dazvid: once your network works otherwise, it's probably easiest to do the rest with firestarter
[02:10] <bazz> yes, i replaced LABEL with /dev/hda4
[02:10] <dazvid> liable, I see.. I will google firestarter.
[02:10] <liable> dazvid: ipmasq, firestarter, shorewall, firehol, monowall.... google ;) shorewall is easy
[02:10] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, so why it's so slow ! :(
[02:11] <fforw> GreenFireD: you should update your system ;)
[02:11] <Knorrie> GreenFireD: what happens in the statistics when you start some programs and switch back and forth between them?
[02:11] <Belutz> how do I delete an entry in configuration editor?
[02:11] <liable> bazz: gimme the line again
[02:11] <napsy> is there a sysprof package for ubuntu?
[02:11] <bazz> kernel                /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 ro root=/dev/hda4=/ rhgb quiet
[02:11] <bazz> damn i can see it now
[02:11] <topyli> dazvid: no need to google. install it and run it. it runs a wizard on the first run, answer a few questions and off you go
[02:11] <badei> +?a5qX???
[02:11] <badei> :)
[02:11] <bazz> just root=/dev/hda4
[02:11] <liable> bazz: remov =/
[02:12] <badei> i'm so crazy
[02:12] <liable> heh
[02:12] <bazz> ok ;)
[02:12] <GreenFireD> Knorrie, it's jumping..
[02:12] <enoon> topyli, it does not whine when you activate misc-special keys in layout options?
[02:12] <cafuego_> I wonder why gnome has spawned 38 instances of 'gnome-pty-helper'
[02:12] <enoon> topyli, and close the dial
[02:12] <liable> bazz: you can remove the other stuff after it too.
[02:13] <dazvid> topyli, thanks for the tip
[02:13] <bazz> liable it's booting into fc :)
[02:13] <bazz> thanks man
[02:13] <liable> bazz: yay :)
[02:13] <bazz> never would've found it on forums or so
[02:13] <GreenFireD> fforw, how to update?
[02:13] <Ankka> what am I supposed to do to .deb packages? I downloaded Opera for ubuntu, and it is a .deb package. The debian package viewer, however, tells me it doesn't know the filetype
[02:13] <topyli> oh, i haven't done that. i'll check what it does
[02:14] <sigwada> how can i used gnome-btdownload?
[02:14] <GreenFireD> I have one broken package, how to find it?
[02:14] <fforw> GreenFireD: click (or was it double click) the small red icon with the green ! .. it wants to tell you that there are system updates available
[02:14] <Davey> Ankka, in a terminal, type dpkg -i DEBFILE
[02:14] <fforw> GreenFireD: in the upper right corner
[02:14] <GreenFireD> I have one broken package when I am clicked?, how to find it?
[02:15] <Ankka> Davey, thanks
[02:15] <starscalling> http://pastebin.com/395294 <<<-=-=-=- ok so this is what i get when i run k3b.. it runs and all but it tends to crash in gnome.. any clues what all this means? >.<
[02:15] <topyli> sigwada: double click a torrent file and it will open and download the stuff for you
[02:15] <St^Anger^19m> prelinking didnt have any gr8 effect :S
[02:15] <shebroman> nautilaus browser is missing not working
[02:15] <GreenFireD> I have one broken package when I am clicked, how to find it?
[02:16] <fforw> GreenFireD: what was the error message exactly?
[02:16] <Ronald> Anyone know about powernowd? the way it acts as it is now its a pain in the behind. P3 mobile 'coppermine' has a very large lag when stepping the cpu speed so basically the machine hickups very often, so I manually turn it off now, which is not cool.
[02:16] <ubuntu> hi how do I mount my ntfs partition with support for danish sighns
[02:16] <liable> dpkg: you lag*
[02:16] <Ankka> Davey, the package manager still refuses
[02:16] <DMFDSandman> how do you add a application to applications?
[02:16] <shebroman> nautlaus browser dont work on breezy
[02:16] <DarkFame> -o charset=ISO-8859-1 if I remember correctly
[02:17] <GreenFireD> fforw, it was skype ... never mind
[02:17] <DarkFame> -o iocharset=iso8859-1
[02:17] <topyli> enoon: the dialog works fine here
[02:17] <sn9> DMFDSandman: use smeg
[02:17] <mjr> ...or -o iocharset=utf-8 if you're actually using the default and recommended charset...
[02:18] <sigwada> why is that when i double click a torrent file or using the gnome-btdownload nothings happen, how can i resolve that?
[02:18] <mjr> hmm, actually, utf8
[02:18] <DMFDSandman> i tried to upgrade and it broke
[02:18] <fforw> sigwada: do you have a firewall/router or anything like that?
[02:18] <sn9> DMFDSandman: the apps menu broke?
[02:19] <sigwada> none, just a dsl modem connected tom my nic,
[02:19] <enoon> topyli, thanks
[02:19] <topyli> DMFDSandman: what broke? do you have a question?
[02:19] <shebroman> how do browse local files on nautilus  on breezy
[02:19] <DarkFame> Places -> Home
[02:19] <topyli> DMFDSandman: oh, the menu
[02:20] <ChMuRI> hi
[02:20] <fsmith> hello
[02:20] <GreenFireD> give me link to ubuntu guide plz
[02:20] <DarkFame> Places -> Computer
[02:20] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[02:20] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[02:20] <ompaul> !faq
[02:20] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:20] <GreenFireD> never mind. i found
[02:20] <Davey> Ankka, kill any instances of Synaptic etc, and type: sudo dpkg -i DEBFILE
[02:20] <kbrooks> GreenFireD: forewarned!
[02:20] <Ankka> Davey, ok I'll try
[02:21] <tombs> hi all
[02:21] <fforw> sigwada: I guess you have not set up a firewall? (iptables)
[02:21] <Ed-Gein> any glaring problems with upgrading to breezy?
[02:21] <Linad> hi
[02:21] <reiki> sigwada: I used a torrent for the first time yesterday. It seemed to take a few seconds to get going and slowly built up speed.
[02:21] <ubuntu> DarkFame, hi thx a lot
[02:21] <fsmith> I am having a problem with sudo. I have searched all over and it looks like I cannot fix it.
[02:22] <sigwada> it is now my 2 days working with my torrent files but still i cant open it, i dont know what to do.
[02:22] <kemik> fsmith:  describe your problem
[02:22] <eythian> sigwada: install azureus, it's quite good for bittorrent
[02:22] <ompaul> Ed-Gein, not that I am aware of - if you are doing so - and you have wireless get a copy of the wireless howto and stuff like that just in case also the same goes for nvidia ati but it should just work they are just in cases
[02:22] <pierre_> hello I'm trying to install realplayer but it doesn't work as noted in the ubuntu wiki
[02:22] <fsmith> I used sudo -S -h and when I was finished I closed the terminal without first typing exit and then I exited gnome and selected save session. Now I get "sudo: must be setuid root
[02:22] <fsmith> " no matter what.
[02:22] <Yetr2> sigwada, open them with a torrent application with run the torrent files, which fetches the actual data
[02:22] <pierre_> i'm using breezy
[02:22] <snooo> hi
[02:23] <snooo> am doing a hoary>breezy upgrade, i have a whole bunch of packages which are refusing to upgrade, including g++. how can i see whats holding them back?
[02:23] <eythian> fsmith: is sudo setuid root?
[02:23] <ompaul> Ed-Gein, also in case it breaks its always a good idea to have a live CD that you have tested to hand and not a bad idea to have an install CD but as I said it should just work
[02:23] <fsmith> I have read where you can do a single-user boot, but that sounds like an option for mac.
[02:23] <azertyuuu> hey all , how can i have permission to acces /mnt/windows in ubuntu ???
[02:23] <kbrooks> fsmith: you can do that on linux
[02:23] <fsmith> eythian, how do I check?
[02:23] <eythian> fsmith: ls -l `which sudo`
[02:24] <Ed-Gein> ompaul: thanks for the tips
[02:24] <sigwada> how can i used azureus?
[02:24] <eythian> fsmith: should look like: -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 93076 2005-09-30 20:11 /usr/bin/sudo
[02:24] <snooo> anybody?
[02:24] <starscalling> hehe
[02:24] <eythian> fsmith: the 's' in the permissions is important
[02:24] <Ankka> what's the process name for synaptic?
[02:24] <marsh> What happened to the easy 'unofficial ubuntu' site? When i got my hoary distr it was easy to get it going... now it's all breezy and there a really confusing 'mess' of mixed signals & loads of confusion just to get a decent sources.list! Nothing works!!!
[02:24] <starscalling> sigwada: install jre1.4 package
[02:24] <vbgunz> hello all, what file contains resolutions I can override? I have Nvidia and my resolution is stuck at 1280x1024. It should go as high as 1400x1050. Editing xorg.conf doesn't do anything. Any help is greatly appreciated!
[02:24] <fforw> sigwada: you have to install java first.. azureus is a java app
[02:24] <starscalling> install azureus
[02:24] <topyli> Ankka: synaptic
[02:24] <starscalling> port your system correctly
[02:24] <starscalling> then done :)
[02:24] <Ankka> hmm
[02:25] <sigwada> ok tnx
[02:25] <fsmith> nope that is missing... replaced with x
[02:25] <eythian> vbgunz: make sure that the refresh rates in xorg.conf are correct, it always underestimates mine, causing it to not work great.
[02:25] <Ankka> Davey, no synatic instances running, and won't work
[02:25] <ompaul> marsh nice people in suits called lawyers representing the way sun looks after its userbase
[02:25] <snooo> is there anyone who can help me with finding packages which are withholding upgrades?
[02:25] <Ed-Gein> snooo:  have you enabled the correct repositories
[02:25] <pierre_> I'm trying to install realplayer but it doesn't work as noted in the ubuntu wiki
[02:25] <ompaul> marsh if I reacall correctly, but then I could be wrong
[02:25] <fsmith> eythian, nope that is missing... replaced with x
[02:25] <topyli> fsmith: now, if you can't use sudo, you'll have to fix it in single user mode
[02:26] <vbgunz> eythian: I looked and couldn't find my refresh rates :( Where are they supposed to be?
[02:26] <eythian> fsmith: then, as root (which may be tricky): chmod +s `which sudo`
[02:26] <marsh> ompaul, so now theres no decent backports?
[02:26] <ompaul> marsh, hang on
[02:26] <vbgunz> can you paste your refresh rates in the pastebin for me too peep?
[02:26] <kbrooks> marsh: backports --
[02:26] <ompaul> marsh, backports come from the next upgrade
[02:26] <kbrooks> warty <- hoary
[02:26] <fsmith> eythian, I cannot get under root to change it, that is my problem.
[02:26] <ompaul> marsh, that does not start till next tuesday
[02:26] <eythian> vbgunz: look for a line:         HorizSync       30-70 or similar
[02:26] <snooo> Ed-Gein: yup, replaced all refs from hoary to breezy. i had some hoary-backports which i commented out
[02:26] <ompaul> marsh, so how could there be any
[02:26] <kbrooks> breezy <- next upgrade
[02:26] <marsh> ompaul, i dont understand...
[02:26] <kbrooks> Read:
[02:27] <marsh> breezy isn't out yet?
[02:27] <topyli> marsh: breezy just released. there's nowhere to backport from
[02:27] <kbrooks> marsh: "backport"
[02:27] <ompaul> marsh, breezy is out
[02:27] <fsmith> eythian, the only user available to my knowledge is the one I setup at install.
[02:27] <eythian> fsmith: from a rescue CD? I can't help much right now, my system is currently in the process of being broken.
[02:27] <ompaul> marsh, backports do not exists as yet
[02:27] <bsd3> Hey, I just have installed Kubuntu breezy!!
[02:27] <topyli> marsh: are you on hoary then?
[02:27] <eythian> fsmith: then use a rescue CD if applications->system tools->root terminal doesn't work
[02:27] <kbrooks> marsh: backport means to take from a later version
[02:27] <marsh> ok - maybe I should ask a different question....  What exactly is a 'backport'
[02:27] <kbrooks> to a stable version
[02:28] <ompaul> marsh, what kbrooks said
[02:28] <marsh> kbrooks,
[02:28] <fsmith> eythian, oh ok... will the install cd work for that?
[02:28] <marsh> yeah- got it
[02:28] <Ankka> how can the package manager not know about .deb files?
[02:28] <rohal> my screen resolution is set to 640x480 & i m unable to change it...
[02:28] <sigwada> where can i dowmnload jre1.4?
[02:28] <marsh> i think...
[02:28] <eythian> fsmith: yep
[02:28] <starscalling> !tell starscalling about restricted formats
[02:28] <cyphase> anyone know why i might not be able to mp3's in breezy?
[02:28] <Ed-Gein> sigwada: check suns site
[02:28] <fsmith> eythian, ok thanks a lot!
[02:28] <vbgunz> eythian,I don't have that entry "HorizSync" in my X11 xorg.conf file... I know it belongs in there with "VertRefresh" *but* not sure where they go...
[02:28] <sn9> !tell sigwada about w32deb
[02:28] <marsh> so that would mean that my hoary backports were actually taking from breezy?
[02:28] <kbrooks> marsh: no.
[02:28] <kbrooks> well
[02:28] <marsh> s**t
[02:29] <rohal> help....my screen resolution is set to 640x480 & i m unable to change it...
[02:29] <kbrooks> ... yes
[02:29] <HiddenFly> !tell HiddenFly about w32deb
[02:29] <badei> yes
[02:29] <Felix_> whoho.. im so impressed how easy the upgrade fron horay to breezy was.
[02:29] <marsh> Hmmm... ;S
[02:29] <topyli> marsh: in a few months, when the next ubuntu development version begins to have later versions of software, people will start porting those versions to breezy
[02:29] <badei> how u change resolution???
[02:29] <kbrooks> ompaul?
[02:29] <sn9> sigwada: java 1.4 and 1.5 is at the links from ubotu
[02:29] <cyphase> oooooooohhh
[02:29] <cyphase> i see
[02:29] <kbrooks> !backport
[02:29] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:29] <eythian> vbgunz: hmm. I can't help more right now, I need to fix my system first
[02:29] <cyphase> it's only letting me have one program using audio at a time..
[02:29] <ompaul> marsh, I make a and relase a distro I develop next level - so the old distro gets older you want a newer package - you have to get it from the "next up the line" as dapper development does not start until Tuesday there will be no backports
[02:29] <Ed-Gein> rohal: what are the resolutions listed in xorg.config
[02:29] <marsh> Aahhhh... I see...
[02:30] <Jemt> Greetings. Where can I find w32codecs for Breezy ?
[02:30] <marsh> ok - so i dont need a backport (i just installed a fresh hoary & upgrading to breeezy)
[02:30] <tombs> when you install ubuntu, it doens't ask you for a root password, so, whats de default root's password than?
[02:30] <vbgunz> ethian, cool, no prob! Thanks!
[02:30] <vbgunz>  anyone know where the HorizSync, VertRefresh values go inside of xorg.conf?
[02:30] <kbrooks> marsh: no
[02:30] <linuxboy> how do I do bluetooth in breezy?
[02:30] <ompaul> !tell jemt about codecs
[02:30] <sn9> tombs: there is none
[02:30] <marsh> kbrooks, Hehehe...
[02:30] <marsh> thanks gents
[02:30] <topyli> marsh: if you wanted, you could backport from debian unstable sources (if they are newer than breezy, which i doubt)
[02:30] <Ed-Gein> vbgunz : probably in the monitor display section
[02:30] <sn9> !tell tombs about root
[02:31] <marsh> <--- slowly crawls otno the ladder of understanding...
[02:31] <tombs> sn9 , thanx
[02:31] <ompaul> marsh, pleased to help you get less confused :-)
[02:31] <starscalling> what was the trigger for dvd backups? i forgot what the trigger was for ubotu
[02:31] <marsh> d'ya know what makes ubuntu a better distro?
[02:31] <vbgunz> Ed-Gein: I can experiment, just don't wanna burn the system... :P
[02:31] <ompaul> marsh, do tell
[02:31] <topyli> marsh: love :)
[02:31] <marsh> the patience of it's cummounity
[02:32] <Ed-Gein> vbgunz : do you have a livecd? if so boot the livecd and copy the xorg config file
[02:32] <marsh> topyli, pretty much the same thing...
[02:32] <ompaul> marsh WHAT DO YOU MEAN?  ................ rofl
[02:32] <marsh> possibly call it --- compassion
[02:32] <kbrooks> marsh: :)
[02:32] <vbgunz> I'll give it a try... burn it up, livecd probably wont do much, it will still stay stuck on 1280...
[02:32] <marsh> lol @ cumounioty
[02:33] <topyli> come-on'ity
[02:33] <ompaul> marsh we don't mock it why should you :-)
[02:33] <eythian> vbgunz: look in the monitor manual, that describes the refresh rate limits
[02:33] <kbrooks> topyli: LOL
[02:33] <Jemt> Greetings. Where can I find w32codecs for Breezy ?
[02:33] <Ed-Gein> vbgunz: Boot the live cd and check the livecd config vs your config
[02:33] <marsh> it was a typo - i only noticed it when you started rofl'ing
[02:33] <shukhrat> Korovi est
[02:33] <DarkFame> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[02:33] <ompaul> Jemt, read the message that ubotu told you about
[02:33] <Ankka> how on earth can the debian package manager not understand .deb packages?
[02:33] <shukhrat> ili Telki
[02:33] <vbgunz> eythian: I am going to try applying the refresh rates, I know them just have a slight idea where they go...
[02:34] <DarkFame> w32codecs - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[02:34] <eythian> OK.
[02:34] <marsh> no mocking intended... I've suffered at the 'superior'ness of other support rooms...
[02:34] <vbgunz> Ed-Gein: great idea, sorry I didn't think of that :P
[02:34] <Jemt> Oh, thanks
[02:34] <marsh> Ubuntu's been supportive since the off.
[02:34] <marsh> Thanks guys ;)
[02:34] <Ed-Gein> has ubuntuguide been updated for breezy yet? does it still exist?
[02:34] <ompaul> marsh, well read this
[02:35] <ompaul> !tell marsh about conduct
[02:35] <Jemt> 
[02:35] <ompaul> its nice to be nice
[02:35] <kbrooks> ompaul: what about it?
[02:35] <kbrooks> the ubuntu coc
[02:35] <topyli> Ed-Gein: breezy has it's own "ubuntuguide" in the help menu
[02:35] <ompaul> it inspires
[02:35] <kbrooks> topyli: but
[02:35] <kbrooks> it's sort of ...
[02:35] <kbrooks> too modern
[02:36] <kbrooks> the backports arent even there
[02:36] <dao> !ubuntuguide
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[02:36] <kbrooks> !faq
[02:36] <ubotu> somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:36] <LazyAngel> i can't play mp3's...
[02:36] <kbrooks> LazyAngel:
[02:36] <kbrooks> !mp3
[02:36] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <Ed-Gein> topyli : thanks I haven't upgraded yet thought we could point some of these people in that direction most of these questions are sussinctly answered there
[02:36] <LazyAngel> kbrooks: thanks
[02:36] <marsh> !faq
[02:36] <ubotu> hmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:37] <kbrooks> LazyAngel: np
[02:37] <odat> anyone know how to setup lirc?
[02:37] <topyli> Ed-Gein: yes, it has been taught to ubotu as you see
[02:37] <kbrooks> marsh: i said that already :P
[02:37] <ompaul> marsh, that doc is a motovator to keeping cool heads when questions are difficult
[02:37] <marsh> i didn't know what it did :PP
[02:37] <sven-tek_gaim> anyone here ever used a kernel 2.4 on ubuntu?
[02:37] <alexander> i don
[02:37] <alexander> t
[02:37] <ompaul> sven-tek_gaim, on warty
[02:37] <kbrooks> i dont use 2.4 on breezy
[02:38] <Ed-Gein> sven-tek_gaim : not I but I can't imagine why you would want to either
[02:38] <Ankka> sociopath, I want to install Opera. I download the Ubuntu package from the opera site, and try to open it. But, I can't, since the package manager refuses to. What have I done wrong?
[02:38] <Ankka> oops
[02:38] <alexander> What?
[02:38] <sven-tek_gaim> 2.6 makes problems, everything is okay with distros running 2.4
[02:38] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:38] <alexander> Think so
[02:38] <Ed-Gein> Ankka : is it a .deb file?
[02:38] <bobbyd> Ankka, is it a .deb?
[02:38] <bobbyd> Ed-Gein, :)
[02:39] <Ed-Gein> lol
[02:39] <fforw> sven-tek_gaim: never had a real problem with 2.6
[02:39] <Ankka> Ed-Gein, and bobbyd yes it indeed is, or claims to be
[02:39] <St^Anger^19m> i just prelinked my system
[02:39] <ompaul> sven-tek_gaim, that is not what I have found, and I have several boxes runnin ubuntu 2.6 kernel
[02:39] <[A] ndy80> is it still fixed that problem with skype, opera ecc...? In particular if you try to install them they require a library that is not available for breezy or is it available with another name.
[02:39] <St^Anger^19m> some effect is noticeable
[02:39] <topyli> sven-tek_gaim: there's no 2.4 image. if you want it, it might be easiest to compile from debian sources
[02:39] <Ed-Gein> Ankka : then read up on how to install .deb's
[02:39] <bobbyd> Annka - well in breezy you can right-click and say install on it
[02:39] <intelikey> sven-tek_gaim i have the same experance with kernel 2.6x   but it is getting better.
[02:39] <taomaster> how do  i locate the broken filter?
[02:40] <bobbyd> Ankka, or you can do: "sudo dpkg -i nameOfPackage.deb"
[02:40] <fforw> topyli: are you sure that is going to work? all that udev stuff doesn't work on 2.4
[02:40] <DarkFame> what's wrong with 2.6?
[02:40] <topyli> fforw: not sure at all
[02:40] <taomaster> how do i locate the broken package filter?
[02:40] <manuvcube> hi all
[02:40] <bobbyd> sven-tek_gaim, do you have specific devices that you know don't work with 2.6?
[02:40] <Ed-Gein> there is nothing wrong wiht 2.6
[02:40] <fforw> topyli: my guess would be a clear no.
[02:41] <topyli> fforw: might have to revert to devfs
[02:41] <Ed-Gein> 2.6 is a gift from god
[02:41] <marsh> obotu may claim unofficial ubuntu breaks machines & is out of date, but it was first class way to introduce noobs (myself being one of them) to ubuntu AND to make it 'useful' on the mp3/java/codecs front...
[02:41] <Jemt> Hi again. Could someone please make the bot send me the link to w32codecs again? I lost it
[02:41] <manuvcube> is this the right room for ubuntu on iBook or is there a special ubuntu-ppc room?
[02:41] <Ankka> bobbyd, tried that, but the package manager doesn't know about .deb files, r at least it doesn't recognize this as any filetype it knows
[02:41] <topyli> Ed-Gein: several gods actually :)
[02:41] <sven-tek_gaim> but i have problems since 2.6, the keyboard seems to have "glueing" keys and doesnt stop pressing a keys - my pcmcia network csard stopped working in 2.6, with pcmcia-cs it was great in 2.4 - the alsa audio driver for my chip cs46xx doesnt survive the standby in 2.6 - no problem with the oss driver in 2.4
[02:41] <Ed-Gein> :)
[02:41] <DarkFame> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <marsh> cant beleive such a good site has'nt been kept up to date :(
[02:41] <ompaul> devfs is a restrictive bad design, it was good when it started but has now outlived its usefulness
[02:41] <DarkFame> sven-tek_gaim, that's a bug in like 2.6.9 or something
[02:41] <Jemt> (sorry) :)
[02:41] <Jemt> !tell Jemt about w32codecs
[02:41] <Jemt> .. or something like that :)
[02:42] <Ed-Gein> sven-tek_gaim :which sound card?
[02:42] <Java_the_hutt> Hello, I have made a fresh install of Breezy over Hoary, and now Office Writer crashes and does not open also, my Turkish layout setting does not work at all. What can i do ?
[02:42] <Jemt> Thanks :)
[02:42] <St^Anger^19m> any reason why i should use firefox over galeon?
[02:42] <bobbyd> St^Anger^19m, it's bettter? :)
[02:42] <ompaul> jemt I had this from the bot over 10 mins ago - you were messaged with it ...  told jemt about codecs (rumour has it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats)
[02:42] <DarkFame> St^Anger^19m, extensions
[02:42] <topyli> St^Anger^19m: no reason
[02:42] <bobbyd> St^Anger^19m, it's certainly more compatible with websites
[02:43] <topyli> St^Anger^19m: use whichever you like
[02:43] <bobbyd> (does galeon use gecko?)
[02:43] <DarkFame> yeas
[02:43] <topyli> bobbyd: how so? they use the same engine
[02:43] <sven-tek_gaim> DarkFame: i used gentoo and lots of kernel versions, at least every version since 2.6.8 - always with the hope it will be fixed. now 2.6.13 is out, i tryed that one as well but it makes the same keyboard problems
[02:43] <DarkFame> it does use gecko
[02:43] <bobbyd> in that case I'm talking nonsense
[02:43] <topyli> heh
[02:43] <odat> anyone familiar with lirc?
[02:43] <bobbyd> please ignore me
[02:43] <bobbyd> :)
[02:43] <St^Anger^19m> lol
[02:43] <bobbyd> odat, have you installed it?
[02:43] <DarkFame> sven-tek_gaim, that's pretty weird.. did you send in a bug report on that?
[02:43] <odat> bobbyd, yes
[02:43] <bobbyd> odat, have you read the manual?
[02:43] <Java_the_hutt> Question: I have made a fresh install of Breezy over Hoary, and now Office Writer crashes and does not open also, my Turkish layout setting does not work at all. What can i do ?
[02:43] <DarkFame> i've been using 2.6 since 2.6.0
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> i like having a minimalistic system thats all
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> one browser
[02:44] <marsh> !tell marsh about w32codecs
[02:44] <odat> bobbyd, not sure where to find it
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> one music player
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> etc
[02:44] <sven-tek_gaim> DarkFame: now i thought i broke it myself because of gentoo, and i installed ubuntu hoary and then breezy  - same problems here. - only good thing is my rt2500 card runs out-of-the-box in breezy
[02:44] <bobbyd> Java_the_hutt, please don't repeat, if soomeone can help, they will
[02:44] <ompaul> St^Anger^19m, have a look at xubuntu then :)
[02:44] <bobbyd> odat, open a console and type man lirc
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> isnt xubuntu a normal ubuntu with xfce?
[02:44] <DarkFame> sven-tek_gaim, usb keyboard or ps2?
[02:44] <ompaul> St^Anger^19m, cut down a fair bit
[02:44] <topyli> St^Anger^19m: i have the same philosophy
[02:44] <kbrooks> St^Anger^19m: and gtk2 apps yes
[02:45] <sven-tek_gaim> i think its a internal ps2 (its a notebook, fujitsu liteline with 333mhz, soundchip is cs4601)
[02:45] <odat> bobbyd, says no manual for lirc
[02:45] <kbrooks> odat: website
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> i want gnome or kde...to make it easy to navigate....i dont mind a little startup time
[02:45] <DarkFame> sven-tek_gaim, i see.. you should look up that notebook and see if there are any known problems.
[02:45] <bobbyd> odat, have you tried to google for lirc?
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> but the fewer the apps
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> the better
[02:45] <kbrooks> odat: http://www.lirc.org/
[02:45] <Ankka> apparently nobody can help me.
[02:46] <DarkFame> http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
[02:46] <kbrooks> Ankka: with?
[02:46] <Ed-Gein> Ankka :what is the problem?
[02:46] <Ankka> with the package manager being unable to recognize .deb files
[02:46] <topyli> St^Anger^19m: yeah, i hate long menus and updating packages i don't use
[02:46] <bobbyd> Ankka, i just told you what to do
[02:46] <bobbyd> Ankka, did you try it?
[02:46] <Ankka> I told you what it didnt do
[02:46] <St^Anger^19m> topyli, exactly my reason
[02:46] <Ankka> I did try it
[02:46] <marsh> How do I get ubotu to tell me about w32codecs???
[02:46] <creamz> is there any possible way to change resolution when i am in gnome if i just took a few resolutions when installed X?
[02:47] <bobbyd> Ankka, you tried to do "sudo dpkg yourPackage.deb" at a console?
[02:47] <odat> kbrooks, good god isn't there a gui to configure this thing
[02:47] <marsh> i tried lots of combo's of /msg etc... but no joy :(
[02:47] <bobbyd> Ankka, sorry, "sudo dpkg -i yourPackage.deb" at a console?
[02:47] <Ed-Gein> marsh "/sg username message enter
[02:47] <dazvid> !tell marsh about restricted
[02:47] <Ankka> apparently sudo works, to some extent
[02:47] <dazvid> marsh, I think thats what you are after.. if not let me know :P
[02:47] <enoon> sn9, my custom kernel did the trick
[02:47] <Ankka> yet I get some errors: opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[02:47] <Ankka>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[02:47] <Ankka>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[02:47] <Ankka>  opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4) | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3.3.4); however:
[02:47] <Ankka>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[02:47] <Ankka>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[02:47] <Ankka> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[02:47] <Ankka>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:48] <Ankka> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:48] <Ankka>  opera
[02:48] <kbrooks> odat: linux isn't windows. it doesnt use guis EXTENSIVELY
[02:48] <topyli> Ankka: please
[02:48] <bobbyd> Ankka, don't flood in here!
[02:48] <sn9> enoon: ok
[02:48] <Ace_blend> quick question, what exactly happens when I use the Live version of Ubuntu?
[02:48] <apokryphos> do not paste in here
[02:48] <enoon> sn9, thank you very much for helping me think
[02:48] <kbrooks> odat: linux doesnt pull your hand
[02:48] <seife> Can anybody help me?
[02:48] <marsh> Ed - that dont work....
[02:48] <seife> I cant get sound on the headphones..
[02:48] <odat> kbrooks, yea i know but it could certainly use one for this :)
[02:48] <bobbyd> odat, maybe webmin...
[02:48] <marsh> daz - just gonna check it now..
[02:49] <Ed-Gein> Ankka : install those dependancies first
[02:49] <topyli> Ankka: so, install the required packages
[02:49] <Ed-Gein> Ankka :then try again
[02:49] <kemik> Ace_blend:  what do you mean "happens"?
[02:49] <Ace_blend> mainly the difference between Install and Live
[02:49] <marsh> Aha!!!  thanks dazvid
[02:49] <rohal> can anyone help me in resolving my screen size......defaultis set t o640x480...& its not allowing me to change it...
[02:49] <apokryphos> !resolution
[02:49] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:49] <bobbyd> Ankka, you must learn at least the basics about package management under ubuntu to understand how it all works
[02:49] <Ed-Gein> rohal:check xorg.config for the resolutions listed there
[02:50] <selinium> apokryphos, does live use unionfs?
[02:50] <wouterd> Every time I restart gnome (or X) my keyboard layout settings are forgotten, can anyone help me?
[02:50] <DarkFame> wow, the wiki sure has some really good guides..  ppl should use them more often.
[02:50] <rohal> Ed-Gein:it has all the resolution listed under screen
[02:50] <St^Anger^19m> now that i've built a ubuntu system fit for office needs, as good as windows...
[02:50] <Jemt> Does someone know where I can get w32codecs for Breezy? The link provided by the "tell" bot dosn't work. It's a torrent link
[02:50] <St^Anger^19m> what can i add to make it stand out?
[02:50] <apokryphos> selinium: not sure, could be; same users of gnoppix for our live CDs
[02:51] <apokryphos> s/users/dev/
[02:51] <selinium> apokryphos, cheers
[02:51] <sn9> Jemt: there's a torrent there, and a download too
[02:51] <St^Anger^19m> Jemt, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:51] <Ace_blend> 'The live CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all' How does that one set itself up?
[02:51] <Jemt> St^Anger^19m: Backports dosn't work for Breezy
[02:51] <sn9> St^Anger^19m: not in apt
[02:51] <Jemt> sn9: Dosn't work. No users online i guess
[02:51] <apokryphos> sn9: nah, direct downloads now
[02:51] <linukso> Hi! Does anyone else here have a problem with usb-mass storage devices (i.ex Creative muvo)? I can mount it and copy files to it, but I cant unmount it, and when I remove it the files aren't there. I have tried this on two different computers, but both run ubuntu breezy.
[02:51] <apokryphos> heh, the url wasn't changed
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> i believe its in universal
[02:52] <sn9> Jemt: there's a regular download link there to
[02:52] <kbrooks> St^Anger^19m: w32codecs was removed due to legal reasons
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> not backports
[02:52] <Ed-Gein> rohal : are they commented out?
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> !w32codecs
[02:52] <eythian> linukso: why cant you unmount?
[02:52] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[02:52] <Knorrie> anyone knows if it's possible to send my fridge-photo for http://fridge.ubuntu.com/image/tid/17, an how/where?
[02:52] <kbrooks> St^Anger^19m: it cant be in there.
[02:52] <bobbyd> linukso, anything in the syslog?
[02:52] <apokryphos> new breezy url for w32codecs: http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf
[02:52] <linukso> bobbyd: will check!
[02:52] <kbrooks> St^Anger^19m: otherwise we become an accessory to crime
[02:52] <funkyHat> linukso, i had a similar problem... i didnt' get round to filing a bug report before it started working again though
[02:52] <kbrooks> St^Anger^19m: making it easier
[02:52] <Ed-Gein> wow I like this xubuntu idead
[02:53] <Ed-Gein> idea*
[02:53] <Jemt> sn9: Nope. The Easy Download only provides me with a simple guide to BitTorrent
[02:53] <funkyHat> linukso, although i could unmount no problem
[02:53] <sn9> Jemt: oh
[02:53] <bauke> anyone: probs with nvidia (breezy). Tried:  <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia> and got a <http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3176> Who can help!
[02:53] <Jemt> Sorry, found it sn9
[02:53] <Jemt> Was well hidden in the text
[02:53] <Java_the_hutt> Question: I have made a fresh install of Breezy over Hoary, and now Office Writer crashes and does not open. What can i do ?
[02:54] <Jemt> sn9: argh, wrong again
[02:54] <Jemt> sn9: It was also a Bit Torrent link
[02:54] <apokryphos> bauke: fix your xorg.conf
[02:54] <bobbyd> Java_the_hutt, run oowriter from a console and see it it shows any errors
[02:54] <bauke> apokryphos, changed nv to nvidia
[02:54] <apokryphos> bauke: if you're sure you've got an nvidia, and you sure you installed nvidia-glx, then just do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <Ed-Gein> rohal: don't flood this channel
[02:55] <Jemt> sn9: Can I use the .deb for Hoary on Breezy ?
[02:55] <Jemt> The filenames seem to be identical
[02:55] <reiki> I gotta say...I have a pentium3 1GHz machine. I was seriously considering upgrading real soon as it was getting kinda slow in XP. Since installing Ubuntu I just don't see the need to be in a hurry to upgrade
[02:55] <bauke> apokryphos: did that, same error
[02:55] <total_assault> hey is there anyway besides installing 32bit ubuntu to get flash working on amd64 ubuntu?
[02:55] <linukso> bobbyd: I found something!
[02:55] <apokryphos> bauke: could you pastebin the output of lspci?
[02:56] <bauke> hold on apokryphos
[02:56] <linukso> it is only a problem when not running as user without admin permissions...
[02:56] <sn9> Jemt: for java? better not. for w32, might as well
[02:56] <marsh> reiki, i'm on a p111 800.... no problems... ;)
[02:56] <linukso> strange! The users that experienced the problem is in the external devices group
[02:56] <rohal> Ed-Gein: plz send a private message...its tough for me to look for ur mesaage in such a small resolution....
[02:57] <bauke> apokryphos: only thing that's different: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3181
[02:57] <bauke> apokryphos: but in hoary it was okay
[02:57] <Jemt> sn9: Java?? I was not talking about java. All I want is w32codecs for Ubuntu
[02:57] <topyli> total_assault: you can install it in a 32 bit choot jail
[02:57] <sven-tek_gaim> oh my god, there is a kernel 2.4 running my breez
[02:57] <liable> bauke: update-pciids
[02:57] <topyli> total_assault: chroot even
[02:57] <sn9> Jemt: then hoary should be fine
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> i just uninstalled Galeon..and now when i open a url from irc...it opens up in the terminal...how can i fix it?
[02:57] <bauke> liable: ?? what's that
[02:58] <liable> bauke: that will at least give you more info on it..
[02:58] <Ed-Gein> rohal: I can't message you I'm not a registered user
[02:58] <bauke> thans liable :)
[02:58] <liable> bauke: wont help i doubt, but try it, then lspci again
[02:58] <total_assault> how do i do that?
[02:58] <Java_the_hutt> bobbyd, it says : /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice: line 224:  8682 Segmentation fault      "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[02:58] <rohal> Ed-Gein:ok i m trying to paste xorg.conf
[02:58] <Jemt> sn9: I'm running Breezy but have the w32codecs for Hoary
[02:58] <Ed-Gein> don't do it here
[02:59] <Ed-Gein> rohal: don't do it here
[02:59] <Jemt> sn9: Thanks! :)
[02:59] <bauke> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3182
[02:59] <rohal> Ed-Gein: ok i got it
[02:59] <manuvcube> how do I switch on /manage firewall in breezy?
[02:59] <rohal> Ed-Gein: how to select whole text in that xterm...its not scrolling...nor does that ctrl a works
[03:00] <total_assault> i think chroot will be too much of a hassle i think macromedia will come out with it soon
[03:00] <apokryphos> hm, it does look ok
[03:00] <Tufsan> Hello, can someone help me with some BASH scripting, really simple for the knowledgable one :-)
[03:00] <kbrooks> Tufsan: ask
[03:00] <bobbyd> Tufsan, just ask, don't ask to ask
[03:00] <scummbar> in wich file have I to put a module to load it at the start of the system?
[03:00] <DarkFame> he
[03:00] <bauke> yeah apokryphos it used to work in hoary just fine
[03:00] <scummbar> modules.autoload ?
[03:00] <scummbar> where?
[03:00] <total_assault> inetd
[03:00] <LazyAngel> where do i find libz?
[03:00] <total_assault> you have to make a symbolic link with inetd
[03:01] <scummbar> :?
[03:01] <apokryphos> bauke: ok, compile a bug report giving them the output of lspci and the first x errors
[03:01] <Omarkj> I'm having a problem mounting a samba share in Ubuntu using fstab. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3183
[03:01] <Omarkj> Any ideas ?
[03:01] <liable> scummbar: /etc/modules
[03:01] <bauke> apokryphos: i'll do that
[03:01] <Tufsan> OK...I want to enter multiple commands into a BASH-script but it won't work.....The script first mounts a volume, cd's into a directory and executes a file therein....currently only the mounting part works....help pls??
[03:01] <scummbar> liable: thanks
[03:01] <total_assault> im sure exactly how to do it ask one of the more experinced guys, ya there you go
[03:01] <LazyAngel> configure: error: *** GPLFLash requires libz. <-- i cant find this in synaptic :(
[03:01] <manuvcube> someone please tell /me how to configure/manage firewall in breezy
[03:02] <DarkFame> Tufsan, mount something; cd into; ./execute_me
[03:02] <DarkFame> ?
[03:02] <jfb> Hi, do you know if the last LiveCD provides the nvidia proprietary driver  out of the box ?
[03:02] <kemik> Omarkj:  you have a working connection between the computers ?
[03:02] <Omarkj> kemik: Yes.
[03:02] <kemik> Omarkj:  does the "a" share appear if you browse in nautilus ?
[03:02] <LazyAngel> manuvcube: read about iptables.
[03:02] <deFrysk> jfb, no
[03:02] <kemik> Omarkj:  and have you apt-get'ed smbfs ?
[03:02] <Omarkj> Omarkj: Yes, I'm able to use the nautilus mounting thing.
[03:03] <manuvcube> LazyAngel: ok, know bout that. THX. thought there was a GUI
[03:03] <Omarkj> Yeb, it's been installed.
[03:03] <LazyAngel> manuvcube: yes. i think it is called firestarter
[03:03] <kbrooks> manuvcube: there is
[03:03] <manuvcube> kbrooks: which one? where?
[03:04] <cliebow> any easy fix to revert back to gcc-3.4? ive got things all screwed up.tok out 4.0 and about 424 pacages with..3.4 says installed...but have no cc at all..this in 5.0.10
[03:04] <liable> cliebow: are you trying to compile or what?
[03:04] <linukso> Hm, if anybody remebers my usb-problem. Its fixed, but I still have some issues... Nautilus reported the copying completed, but mount still claimed that the device was mounted after unmounting it in gnome... So maybe the system continiued copying after nautilus was done?
[03:05] <LazyAngel> manuvcube: try firestarter.
[03:05] <kemik> Omarkj:  if you manually mount it with the mount-command? (sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=omarkj,password=yourpass //IP/share /mnt/point) ?
[03:05] <kbrooks> manuvcube: ubuntu doesnt install it WITH the distro as it is unnecessary to install a fw b/c no daemons listen to the net
[03:05] <cliebow> tyring to build the lbe for linux terminalservices
[03:05] <cliebow> liable:tyring to build the lbe for linux terminalservices
[03:05] <Omarkj> kemik: Yes, I saw what the flaw was.
[03:05] <Omarkj> Had a typo in fstab, kinda clumsy.
[03:05] <liable> cliebow: in the makefile you should be able to specify the compiler
[03:05] <mahangu_> firestarter is great
[03:06] <mahangu_> how can i disable my thinkpad trackpad in ubuntu>
[03:06] <cliebow> lemme get the error.
[03:06] <Omarkj> ls
[03:06] <nightswim> where can I add items to the "right click on the desktop" menu?
[03:06] <manuvcube> I know firestarter, ok. But is there a GUI within the distro or not? Would prefer ubuntus own things, if exist
[03:06] <deFrysk> nightswim, desktop menu button
[03:07] <LazyAngel> manuvcube: no, ubuntu isn't shipped with a firewall
[03:07] <starscalling> yay
[03:07] <kemik> manuvcube:  what do you mean ? a special "ubuntu firewall gui" ?
[03:07] <seife> Somebody HELP me please, i dont know why i dont have sound on headphones
[03:07] <deFrysk> nightswim, the "ubuntubutton"
[03:07] <starscalling> i found a great how-to for ip-tables
[03:07] <starscalling> no front end for me!
[03:07] <kemik> LazyAngel:  all linuxdistros has a firewall.. iptables is built in the kernel ;)
[03:07] <liable> manuvcube: firestater, guarddog, shorewall, firehol, monowall, et al, are all front ends for iptables..
[03:08] <LazyAngel> kemik: my mistake. :)
[03:08] <starscalling> what do i do to check if dma is enabled for my dvd drives?
[03:08] <linukso> starscalling: hdparm
[03:08] <kemik> starscalling:  hdparm /dev/device
[03:08] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working.. anyone?
[03:08] <starscalling> thakyou :)
[03:08] <manuvcube> LazyAngel: ok, will use firestarter. It's in the packagelist already. THX all
[03:08] <foxiness> when i upgrude from hoary to breezy-rc it stop many time to ask me ,now am ready to upgrade from breezy-rc to breezy offical is there a way a round this "ask to action"?
[03:08] <deFrysk> starscalling, sudo hdparm -tT /device
[03:08] <LazyAngel> liable: i din't know that. thanks :D
[03:08] <sigwada> i got this msg when i install jre21.5 ,dpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5 (--install):
[03:08] <sigwada>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:08] <sigwada> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:08] <sigwada>  sun-j2re1.5
[03:08] <sigwada> what it is?
[03:09] <MaTaKs> can someone help me, i want to make my mplayer as the default player on my browser cause my totem is not working.. anyone?
[03:09] <kemik> MaTaKs:  uninstall totem :)
[03:09] <starscalling>  Timing cached reads:   924 MB in  2.00 seconds = 461.38 MB/sec
[03:09] <starscalling>  Timing buffered disk reads:   12 MB in  3.08 seconds =   3.90 MB/sec
[03:09] <starscalling>  <<-- i get that...
[03:09] <MaTaKs> ok
[03:09] <kemik> ofcourse, that removes rhythmbox aswell :(
[03:09] <dazvid> what repos is needed for the j2rel.4 package?
[03:09] <eythian> MaTaKs: select a movie file, right-click, properties. You can configure it in there
[03:10] <seife> Somebody help me please, i dont know why i dont have sound on headphones
[03:10] <eythian> seife: volume set for the headphone port?
[03:10] <liable> LazyAngel: np ;)
[03:10] <starscalling> sigwada: let me get you a great link :)
[03:10] <seife> eythian, what u mean? ALSA?
[03:10] <hendrik_> how do i install NDISWRAPPER, on linux i don't know it because i m new in linux
[03:10] <starscalling> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272 <<-- all about azureus
[03:10] <starscalling> :)
[03:11] <eythian> seife: the volume. Open up a volume control and make sure it's not muted
[03:11] <seife> it is not
[03:11] <seife> i have sound on speakers
[03:11] <liable> !ndiswrapper
[03:11] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:11] <seife> but not on headphones
[03:11] <Omarkj> Is it normal that I have no read or write permissions through this if I mount it via fstab?
[03:11] <foxiness> what is the best way to upgrade from cd to breezy ?
[03:11] <seife> i think it was something i put on the terminal
[03:11] <liable> hendrik_: ^^\
[03:11] <apokryphos> Omarkj: set umask option to allow you to
[03:11] <rohal> plz some one check this out and tell me why i am unable to change my screen resolution ...its set to 640x480......             http://rafb.net/paste/results/qNnk6y70.html
[03:11] <Omarkj> apokryphos: thanks.
[03:11] <eythian> seife: sometimes there is a seperate volume control for the headphones
[03:11] <liable> rohal: 855 chipset?
[03:12] <rohal> liable: 845
[03:12] <apokryphos> Omarkj: what FS type?
[03:12] <marsh> hey gents, how can i get a list of the mirrrors for repo's for my sources.list... I want a gb site
[03:12] <Omarkj> apokryphos: I am mounting it through smbfs.
[03:12] <xophEr> Do you know of a flash player for 64-bit systems ?
[03:12] <rohal> liable: any idea wht should i do??
[03:12] <Omarkj> On the remote server we've got ext3.
[03:13] <apokryphos> Omarkj: what filesystem? ntfs?
[03:13] <Jon> marsh: ubuntu.hands.com
[03:13] <apokryphos> ok
[03:13] <liable> rohal: google 855resolution, dunno if it applies to yours, but check it out
[03:13] <Jon> marsh: (sorry, can't answer your _actual_ Q but thats a gb mirror :) )
[03:13] <liable> !855resolution
[03:13] <ubotu> liable: I give up, what is it?
[03:14] <b0uncer> I need help with pppoeconf..
[03:14] <marsh> jon - does that mean i can replace the http bit of the sources.list repo's with that?
[03:14] <LaserLine> I tried asking this on the gentoo channel, but i'll try here, what performance gain will I get from installing Gentoo 2005.1 on a P3 laptop (600Mhz, 256MB RAM) vs Breezy, which is already installed (clean install after wiping hoary) ?
[03:14] <auTONYmous> how do I configure wine?
[03:14] <Nesting> hi
[03:14] <rohal> liable: if u have faced the similar problem....u can think of my condition.......even this cat window will need 4 screen...how can i use google
[03:14] <arkanes> LaserLine: doubtful that  you'd see any noticable improvement
[03:15] <eythian> LaserLine: less improvement, if you count time spent compiling stuff
[03:15] <b0uncer> anybody using pppoeconf, please?
[03:15] <Jon> marsh: yes, keep http:// at the front
[03:15] <LaserLine> And overall desktop performance, after installing all I need ?
[03:15] <cliebow> liable: /usr/bin/ld ctrl.o no such file or directory
[03:15] <Jon> marsh: give it a try at least. I don't have an ubuntu box handy to check
[03:15] <Davey> LaserLine,  yeah, the time you spend compiling stuff on that machine would far outweight any time savings in overall performance (which is negligable at best)
[03:15] <marsh> jon for all the repo's (security included?
[03:16] <Nesting> hi ChaKy
[03:16] <marsh> Jon - ok - sorry - i get the fear with these things
[03:16] <arkanes> LaserLine: dekstop performance is not improved by using gentoo
[03:16] <LaserLine> Davey but then I have everything compilied to my system, isn't it supposed to faster?
[03:16] <liable> rohal: no, i havent had the problem, but you do, so you will have to google and see if 855resolution will fix it. :P
[03:16] <Davey> LaserLine, not by much
[03:16] <arkanes> LaserLine: a common misconception. Compiling something yourself does not make it faster
[03:16] <liable> cliebow: ??
[03:17] <arkanes> especially not on a p3
[03:17] <LaserLine> arkanes Really ? how come
[03:17] <cliebow> when running ./build_all in/usr/bin/ld ctrl.o no such file
[03:17] <apokryphos> i.e. "Gentoo are once again the first to package X, but will be the last to actually use it" ;-)
[03:17] <Jon> marsh: no worries :) keep a copy of your sources.list and try an apt-get update; if it complains I made  a mistake
[03:17] <sigwada> pls help until now i cant open torrent files.
[03:17] <arkanes> because the very minor performance increases from self-compiling come from optimizations for newer processors that aren't generallyt done in binary packages
[03:18] <liable> sigwada: you have bt-download-gui installed?
[03:18] <iguldman> i have some problems about my installation...  i didn't create my root users... how can i fix it?
[03:18] <liable> !root
[03:18] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:18] <LaserLine> arkanes Ohh, ok, makes sense... I might just install gentoo to learn more, and then reinstall Ubuntu. I'm now installing breezy on my desktop dual-booting with windows xp.
[03:18] <sigwada> nope.
[03:18] <dazvid> !tell iguldman about sudo
[03:18] <sigwada> how could i get one?
[03:19] <spudse> Hello, I just got 2 monitors running on ubuntu. But now I have two independant desktops, how can I make the primairy desktop spans over the secondary monitor too ?
[03:19] <DarkFame> spudse: do you have a nvidia card? if so, use nvidia-settigns
[03:19] <LaserLine> Does Breezy have BT gui tools like Kubuntu has ?
[03:19] <LaserLine> I remember they said it has native bluetooth support, and I can't find it on the live cd....
[03:20] <foxiness> when you do upgrade the apt ask you many times can i till this to the end ?
[03:20] <liable> !find bt-download-gui
[03:20] <spudse> DarkFame, I have a ATI card, im running the fglrx drivers
[03:20] <sigwada> i cant open torrent files, and  i dont gnome-btdownload gui. what will i do?
[03:20] <iguldman> thanks a lot
[03:20] <Nesting> irc://irc.npircs.pl #www.elektroda.pl
[03:20] <foxiness> spudse, how can i know if i have the fglrx running ?
[03:20] <theine> Is anybody using Openbox under Gnome in here?
[03:21] <liable> sigwada: did you install bittorent-gui?
[03:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bt-download-gui' returned no results.
[03:21] <LaserLine> Anyone knows Ubuntu Breezy's Bluetooth support ?
[03:21] <sigwada> how to install bittorent-gui? im newbie in ubuntu
[03:21] <eythian> sigwada: open synaptic and search in it for bittorrent
[03:22] <spudse> foxiness, You can look in the package manager if it is installed, and then look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it is used
[03:22] <spudse> I mean if it is used as a driver
[03:22] <foxiness> when the synapti ask me to replace the configure file or not what the best answer?
[03:22] <liable> ubotu: too slow!
[03:22] <ubotu> liable: I give up, what is it?
[03:22] <anatole> hi
[03:22] <rohal> plz some one check this out and tell me why i am unable to change my screen resolution ...its set to 640x480......             http://rafb.net/paste/results/qNnk6y70.html
[03:23] <anatole> i just installed breezy and i cannot install azureus... what repository it is in?
[03:23] <liable> ubotu: too slow! is <reply> well, i have better things to do $nick
[03:23] <ubotu> okay, liable
[03:23] <liable> ubotu: too slow!
[03:23] <ubotu> well, i have better things to do liable
[03:23] <valentin> coucou
[03:24] <afabian> I've used Debian, but not Ubuntu so much.  Is it any better at hardware auto-configuration?  One thing I didn't like about Debian... as surely as it did the heavy lifting in the packaging department, it let me do the heavy lifting in configuration.. ;)
[03:24] <valentin> yes of course
[03:24] <liable> afabian: yeah, its a bit nicer in that department
[03:24] <sigwada> i have seen in synaptic that gnome-btdownload is mark red, what does it mean? it is not running? what will i do?
[03:25] <hendrik_> Call "sudo ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf" where foobar.inf is the path to your inf-file (windows wireless-lan driver) what does it mean
[03:25] <liable> afabian: with new hardware and xorg especially.
[03:25] <DMFDSandman> your wireless driver is filename.inf just put that in there
[03:26] <liable> hendrik_: it means substitute foobar for your .inf driver foer your card..
[03:26] <symlink> has anybody else had problems running the breezy installer?
[03:26] <sigwada> i have seen in synaptic that gnome-btdownload is mark red, what does it mean? it is not running? what will i do?
[03:26] <z|bandito> hi
[03:26] <liable> !repeat
[03:26] <ubotu> I guess repeat is Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer
[03:26] <drcode> hi all
[03:26] <Silver__Wolf> hi
[03:26] <sigwada> where can i obtain gnome-btdownload?tnx
[03:26] <LaserLine> If I choose largest continuens space in the partitioner, it won't hurt my Windows XP installation, right ? I have 18GB of ree un-alocated space.
[03:26] <drcode> how do I tar dir with subdir ?
[03:26] <hendrik_> i don't know what -i foobar. inf is can somebody help me is  it excuted in the terminal
[03:27] <LaserLine> larges continuens free space*
[03:27] <liable> LaserLine: yes
[03:27] <LaserLine> thanks
[03:27] <liable> hendrik_: you need to download the windows drivers for your card.
[03:27] <sigwada> where can i obtain gnome-btdownload?tnx
[03:27] <cliebow> hendrik: if you are trying to use ndiswrappers you need the inf and sys file for you card..ndiswrappers needs to know what inf goes with the card
[03:27] <hendrik_> i want to install it on my laptop an acer aspire 1500
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> sigwada,  fire up synaptic and search for bittorrent
[03:28] <liable> sigwada: STOP REPEATING!!!
[03:28] <foxiness> spudse, the ati on /etc .thank you
[03:28] <sigwada> oops sorry
[03:28] <LaserLine> does breezy install Gnome Bluetooth tools ?
[03:28] <z|bandito> my breezy install seems to have hung in the middle of apt configuration, but i can get to the terminal and stuff so it's not dead, i think it just got hung from my flaky net connection... how can i recover?  i see some processes in ps aux about apt config and stuff... can i restart it somehow?  i tried pressing escape and control-c at the main  workspace but it's still stuck at 25%
[03:28] <foxiness> LaserLine, no
[03:28] <TenPlus1> hi folks...
[03:28] <liable> z|bandito: try running base-config again
[03:29] <LaserLine> foxiness but it does install bluetooth services... wierd isn't it ?
[03:29] <cliebow> liable: you going to Montreal
[03:29] <cliebow> ?
[03:29] <TenPlus1> What's the service or program that allows Ubuntu to enter languages like hebrew or japanese in text boxes ???
[03:29] <z|bandito> should i kill the install process and then type base-config into workspace 2?
[03:29] <foxiness> LaserLine, yes it des
[03:29] <liable> cliebow: heh, nah, im in .au, a bit too far :)
[03:29] <cliebow> yeah prob wouldnt let you across the border anyway 8~)
[03:30] <liable> haha
[03:30] <cliebow> im going up eith the ltsp team
[03:30] <foxiness> LaserLine, am have this tools from Hoary but on clean install "on test" it did not has
[03:30] <odat> hi everyone
[03:30] <z|bandito> ?
[03:30] <mevvis> hi
[03:30] <foxiness> hi
[03:30] <MixUnix> hi
[03:30] <marsh> do i need a gpg-key to get the standard brrezy updates & breezy security releases?
[03:30] <cliebow> ho
[03:31] <odat> anyone have any experience with lirc and irrecord?
[03:31] <manuvcube> marsh: no
[03:31] <mevvis> where I am? :)
[03:31] <_aSi_> hiiiiiiii
[03:31] <sigwada> what will i do or type in synaptic to have gnome-btdownload?
[03:31] <marsh> manuvcube, then i have a problem :(
[03:31] <manuvcube> marsh: tell us
[03:31] <marsh> it wants them (from what i can tell..
[03:31] <LaserLine> foxiness Kubuntu has bluetooth kde installed
[03:31] <kbrooks> sigwada: why do u want it
[03:31] <liable> z|bandito: dont kill anything yet, just try base-config.
[03:31] <manuvcube> and the packetmanager doesn't get them for you?
[03:31] <marsh> or is it because I'm using the gb.archive.ubuntu.com site???
[03:32] <z|bandito> ok i'll try..
[03:32] <LaserLine> foxiness How can I install KDE's bluetooth tools without installing the whole KDE desktop ? (it's a lot better then gnomes, from hoary)
[03:32] <sigwada> coz i cant open my torrent files, and i found that the gnome-btdownload in my synaptic mark as red.
[03:32] <marsh> manuvcube, everything is fine except those
[03:32] <manuvcube> marsh: brb
[03:33] <foxiness> LaserLine, i dont know but i dont like anything start with K :)
[03:33] <LaserLine> foxiness nevermind, found that package on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:33] <sigwada> what will i do?
[03:33] <LaserLine> foxiness - me too, but gnomes bluetooth support is realle bad.
[03:33] <Jaivaz> I'm sure many people have had this problem already. I installed Azureus and when I run it the Azureus window is blank. Literally just blank.
[03:33] <topyli> LaserLine: it probably depends on kdebase and possibly kdebin
[03:34] <manuvcube> marsh: I have no problem on a fresh install of breezy with the "aktualisierungsmanger" (german) from systemmenu
[03:34] <manuvcube> marsh: no updates available until now, of course...
[03:34] <foxiness> LaserLine, i hope the ubuntu team will fix this on next release
[03:34] <marsh> manuvcube, i'm getting this:
[03:34] <LaserLine> foxiness it isn't ubuntu, it's gnome.
[03:34] <lupz> hi all, is there a way to automount a flash drive as soon as it is inserted (not using kde or gnome tools, my box doesn't have also X) ?
[03:35] <LaserLine> topyli ACK! it's like installing KDE.
[03:35] <TenPlus1> How do I turn DMA on for my cd/dvd devices ???
[03:35] <topyli> LaserLine: just checked, it only depends on kdelibs after all
[03:35] <foxiness> LaserLine, and add applicitino :)
[03:36] <sigwada> until now i cant open torrent files, what will i do to get a bittorrent in synaptic, what will i do?
[03:36] <marsh> shit
[03:36] <LaserLine> topyli so that means it won't bloat the system...
[03:36] <LaserLine> foxiness I didn't understand...
[03:37] <topyli> LaserLine: kdelibs depends on kdelibs-bin and kdelibs-data :)
[03:37] <madder> hello
[03:37] <foxiness> LaserLine, the ubuntu team add many thing to gnome
[03:37] <z|bandito> how do i restart base-config from busybox?
[03:37] <LaserLine> topyli so, what'll be the damage ?
[03:38] <LaserLine> foxiness I know, I love them for the work they are doing, If paypal would have worked in israel I would have donated some $$, but that'll change in 2006 so then it'll be better :-)
[03:38] <foxiness> LaserLine, and it can do it like ubuntu device datatbase
[03:38] <topyli> LaserLine: do apt-get install kdebluetooth. apt will tell you what it's going to do, how much will be downloaded and the installed size. then it will ask if you want to go ahead
[03:38] <eythian> for those looking for comparisons between linux distros, there's a nice summary here: http://nanocrew.net/2005/10/03/despair-linux/  ;)
[03:38] <madder> can I add a repository from an ISO CD? this ISO CD is Kubuntu.......if this can how can I do that? thanx in advance
[03:38] <manuvcube> marsh: IM me
[03:38] <LaserLine> topyli I'm checking it now from synaptic on hoary (now i'm from my laptop)
[03:39] <marsh> manuvcube, i bin trying to - can't find how to do it!"!!
[03:39] <afabian> How are the default fonts on Ubuntu?  Fedora has really good fonts, and OpenSuse is .. shockingly bad by comparison.. heh.  (yes, as you can see, I'm ... trying to pick a new distribution!)
[03:39] <topyli> LaserLine: ok, it will be a 19M download, install will take 66.3 M
[03:39] <Muntjak> I have linux8x16.pcf.gz font and I cant see it in kubuntu :( I copied the file to misc catalog and ran mkfontdir, reconfigured fontconfig to use bitmap fonts and still nothing. F1 ;)
[03:39] <foxiness> madder, from synaptic ->Edit> add cd
[03:39] <manuvcube> marsh: and all. Sorry pals, have to leave ...
[03:39] <TenPlus1> How do I turn DMA on for my cd/dvd devices ???
[03:39] <LaserLine> topyli LoL, hoary rep's doesn't have them.
[03:39] <z|bandito> is base-config just a flag for debconf?  should I be trying to restart debconf?
[03:39] <LaserLine> topyli that means 1/3 of KDE approx...
[03:40] <foxiness> so you guys soon ,time to go
[03:40] <marsh> Anyone any good with GPG keys?
[03:40] <topyli> LaserLine: i'd call that a lot for a single tool :)
[03:40] <madder> foxiness:thanx..I will try that
[03:40] <LaserLine> topyli yeah, I'll just use Bluetooth on my windows machine.
[03:40] <LaserLine> Athlon XP 2700+ with 1GB ram should go with the K7 kernel or 686?
[03:40] <topyli> LaserLine: so gnome-bluetooth doesn't work at all?
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> TenPlus1,  - check /etc/default/hdparm
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> TenPlus1,  the option will be '-d1'
[03:41] <LaserLine> topyli it does work, but doesn't have all the profiles, and it's lacks a bit of finess...
[03:41] <TenPlus1> thx Dr_Willis
[03:42] <_mindspin> !cifs
[03:42] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, _mindspin
[03:42] <symlink> can anybody tell me how to fix the debootstrap installation error on breezy
[03:42] <symlink> ?
[03:42] <LaserLine> topyli let's say Widcomm has the best BT support for windows, and SP2 BT support is the worst, Gnomes is not as good as SP2's support. (so that's kinda not good) but the project is really new.
[03:42] <_mindspin> does anybody know where to find cifs package?
[03:42] <LeBeauceron> hi all
[03:43] <LeBeauceron> png library seems to be broken
[03:43] <LeBeauceron> with E17
[03:43] <LeBeauceron> it don't work at all
[03:43] <topyli> LaserLine: that's utter and total greek to me. i've never used a singel bluetooth device. i only just bought a phone that supports it :)
[03:43] <LeBeauceron> with Etk and Ewl toolkit It cant' display any image
[03:43] <marsh> anyone, gents (and ladies)??? i can't find the gpg-key for gb.archives.ubuntu.com breezy-security & breezy-updates repo's
[03:43] <LaserLine> topyli LoL...:-)
[03:43] <Zaacc> symlink when installing 5.04 i got the debootstrap error and found that it was my ram that was giving me the problem, but your case might be entirely different so i don't know :(
[03:44] <jogurtTM> #join
[03:44] <LaserLine> I managed to use BT support on my laptop by using knoppix scripts, and then using my phone (T630) as a modem.
[03:44] <LeBeauceron> anyone can help me?
[03:44] <Revellion> rflol
[03:44] <Revellion> neat
[03:44] <topyli> LaserLine: and judging from the past, there's not a single app on linux that will sync with my nokia phone
[03:44] <z|bandito> my breezy install seems to have hung in the middle of apt configuration, but i can get to the terminal and stuff so it's not dead, i think it just got hung from my flaky net connection... how can i recover?  i see some processes in ps aux about apt config and stuff... can i restart it somehow?  i tried pressing escape and control-c at the main  workspace but it's still stuck at 25%
[03:44] <LaserLine> topyli don't buy nokia :-)
[03:45] <HappyFool> _mindspin: maybe cifs support is in one of the samba packages?
[03:45] <LaserLine> topyli bye Sony-Ericsson.
[03:45] <LaserLine> topyli buy
[03:45] <Tannin> Hi! Can anyone tell me if the Nvidia-driver or nvidia-glx in hoary was patched?
[03:45] <z|bandito> i can't seem to just run base-config as recommended... is that part of debconf?  i can't get that to start either :(
[03:45] <topyli> LaserLine: who else makes communicators with full keyboards, office tools, and 80x25 terminals with ssh connections to unix boxen?
[03:45] <marsh> z|bandito, killall???
[03:46] <irena__> i`ve got a queston!
[03:46] <LaserLine> topyli On a phone ? you got 6680?
[03:46] <z|bandito> =[
[03:46] <topyli> LaserLine: it's a 9300 communicator
[03:46] <z|bandito> seriously?
[03:46] <topyli> it runs doom and nethack!
[03:46] <marsh> z|bandito, open a term & type top
[03:46] <LaserLine> topyli Ohh, it's not a phone !! but it is kinda slow...
[03:46] <nlany> Ubuntu's installer cant read my HD partition table, how to manually prepare partitions for Ubuntu installation?
[03:46] <bigfoot1> quick q: what folder is xorg.conf in?
[03:46] <irena__> is there a firewalll built in ubuntu linux, and how to acess it?
[03:47] <Tannin> bigfoot1: /etc/X11
[03:47] <marsh> whats the apt-get process name? (is it apt / apt-get?
[03:47] <topyli> LaserLine: it is a bit slow starting apps, but it's quite usable
[03:47] <bigfoot1> Tannin: thansk
[03:47] <bigfoot1> thanks
[03:47] <Tannin> np
[03:47] <marsh> z|bandito?
[03:47] <silent_scream> how can i make some commands to be executed when i boot on ubuntu ?
[03:47] <z|bandito> ok
[03:47] <LaserLine> topyli yeah, but I'm waiting for symbian 9
[03:47] <ds[de] > irena__ afaik there's no firewall built in by default, but you can install one by sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:47] <z|bandito> not found
[03:47] <z|bandito> :\
[03:47] <LaserLine> 20 minutes and ubuntu finished installing - WOW
[03:47] <topyli> LaserLine: i'm waiting for linux :)
[03:48] <Tannin> I really need to know the patches that were applied to the nvidia-kernel module and nvidia-glx package and the compiler flags used. can anyone help me there?
[03:48] <kbrooks> LaserLine: ;)
[03:48] <St^Anger^19m> i installed my nvidia drivers, and they work well. yet when i drag a window around, it's not smooth
[03:48] <LaserLine> topyli i'm trying to install linux on my Tungsten T3 palm...
[03:48] <seife> Somebody help me, i have sound on speakers but not on headphone, dunno why.
[03:48] <bigfoot1> how can i get dialog windows to open up in a bigger screen. For example, in gedit--> Open file
[03:48] <_mindspin> whats the difference between samba and samba-common?
[03:48] <irena__> thats not my problem, i instaled azureus and it wont work because the port is closed... how to open it?
[03:49] <topyli> LaserLine: nokia has linux with a gnome gui on the 770 but that doesn't have a phone
[03:49] <z|bandito> no it's not an apt-get process, apt-setup and apt-cdrom processes are there, though..
[03:49] <LaserLine> 7700 is so slow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:49] <ds[de] > irena__ are you behind a router?
[03:49] <irena__> no
[03:49] <HappyFool> _mindspin: use synaptic or 'apt-cache show samba' (similarly for samba-commoin) at the command line to find out
[03:49] <bigfoot1> seife: try your headphones on another machine first.
[03:49] <irena__> directly on cable
[03:50] <_mindspin> that was my plan after finishing apt-get update
[03:50] <LaserLine> topyli I worked for 2.5 years in Orange Israel as a Data Support specialist, this phone is slow... the motorola (forgot it's name) that uses linux us much faster.
[03:50] <LaserLine> 7700 isn't useable
[03:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:50] <bigfoot1> seife: test to see that your headphones are not busted.
[03:50] <ds[de] > did you try a different port besides the standard ones (?-6881)?
[03:50] <_mindspin> I just tried to get the info here...
[03:50] <topyli> LaserLine: no, 770. http://maemo.org/
[03:50] <bigfoot1> seife: do you hear me?
[03:50] <marsh> z|bandito, open a term & type 'killall -9 apt-setup'
[03:50] <Zaacc> does anyone know what the 'Killed Killed Killed' means when i try to install 5.10 Breezy Badger, i get 'killed' all the way down my screen when about to begin installing
[03:50] <irena__> no...
[03:50] <irena__> wait
[03:50] <LaserLine> topyli ohh ok, it's kinda slow too.
[03:50] <ds[de] > you should try it, some BT trackers "refuse" to communicate with peers using the standard ports
[03:50] <topyli> i bet it is
[03:50] <marsh> z|bandito, and then "killall -9 apt-cdrom"
[03:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone know if there is a "detab" command hidden in the repository somewhere?  Or can anyone suggest a perl/python/whatever script to do the same?
[03:51] <setan> oops, I am into the world...
[03:51] <marsh> and if you type my name (or mar+TAB - until you get it) I can converse a lot easier ;)
[03:51] <LaserLine> topyli if you want a linux pda go with the sharp one.
[03:51] <eythian> EnsignRedshirt: 'tr' can do it
[03:52] <setan> Sorry, suppose to be in my Intranet only. Sorry again. Bye.
[03:52] <topyli> LaserLine: basically i want a phone with pda functionality. i only want to carry one device around, i don't even have a laptop
[03:52] <bigfoot1> does anybody here use scim on breezy?
[03:52] <EnsignRedshirt> eythian: Thanks, I'll take a look at tr.
[03:52] <St^Anger^19m> !nvidia
[03:52] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:52] <LaserLine> topyli you have to have a linux pda ?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> most cell phones ive seen make a lousy pda :(
[03:52] <LaserLine> topyli Palmsource s going towards linux
[03:53] <topyli> LaserLine: no. i want a phone. i'm happy with the communicators. this is my second one already
[03:53] <topyli> LaserLine: linux would be extra nicety
[03:53] <marsh> 'Ere... If i've replaced my repo's with breezy ones & done an apt-get upgrade, does that mean I'm using Brezy now? or am i still Hoary?
[03:54] <Spee_Der> Hello
[03:54] <Spee_Der> I have a question please.
[03:54] <bigfoot1> is there a quick way to get sudo access in the GUI to a proctected folder (e.g. etc/x11/
[03:54] <HappyFool> marsh: you should do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:54] <irena__> nope, still dosnt work
[03:54] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:54] <marsh> thanks happy
[03:54] <marsh> thanks HappyFool
[03:54] <topyli> Spee_Der: you have permission to ask your question
[03:54] <Spee_Der> Thank you.
[03:54] <thrice`> bigfoot1: like ?
[03:54] <bigfoot1> Spee_Der: you're welcome
[03:54] <topyli> Spee_Der: don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:54] <ds[de] > irena__ very strange, usually azureus should open the port itself ..
[03:55] <Spee_Der> How to open an .exe file in Ubuntu ?
[03:55] <Spee_Der> I am trying to upgrade my bios.
[03:55] <topyli> Spee_Der: basically you don't
[03:55] <bigfoot1> thrice`: i want to make a backup copy of xorg.conf before i edit the original.
[03:55] <St^Anger^19m> i installed my nvidia drivers, and they work well. yet when i drag a window around, it's not smooth.....any ideas?
[03:55] <ds[de] > irena__ the other thing I was thinking that your ISP is maybe blocking the known p2p ports but that's not an option now that you've tried it with a different port
[03:55] <bigfoot1> Spee_Der: you gotta assert yourself
[03:55] <Spee_Der> No archive manager to handle this file extension in Ubuntu / Linux ?
[03:55] <LaserLine> topyli you could wait for the new xda with wm2005 linux phones aren't adopted by the manufacturers.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Spee_Der,   using linux to run a bios update utility.. is a scary idea.
[03:55] <topyli> Spee_Der: maybe you could run it from a dos floppy?
[03:56] <marsh> HappyFool, It's a bit of a biggie, eh??
[03:56] <irena__> yes... next to the port there is a test buton, it said it was working ok
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> or use dosbox, or wine.
[03:56] <ds[de] > Spee_Der: try booting from a msdos bootdisk and starting the .exe file from a dos shell
[03:56] <marsh> 414MB!
[03:56] <Spee_Der> Okay, thank you. Will find dos boot floppy.
[03:56] <eythian> Spee_Der: google for 'freedos', that'll get you one easily and freely
[03:56] <HappyFool> marsh: it took me ~ 55 hours to download the breezy install image. yay for dial-up.
[03:57] <irena__> on the tracker menu, it sais status withouth connection
[03:57] <topyli> LaserLine: there's this german startup that's making something like the communicators on linux. but they're not available, not internationalized, and nobody knows if they're any good :)
[03:57] <ds[de] > irena__ what version are you using?
[03:57] <liable> ouch
[03:57] <irena__> of what
[03:57] <marsh> HappyFool, and your still Happy!!! - fool!
[03:57] <Spee_Der> Thank you all for information. Wil try as suggested.
[03:57] <ds[de] > azurues
[03:57] <topyli> Spee_Der: try freedos.org
[03:57] <HappyFool> heh
[03:57] <marsh> HappyFool, that's dedication!
[03:58] <Spee_Der> Okay, will do topy, thanks.
[03:58] <irena__> i loaded it couple of minutes ago... so
[03:58] <EnsignRedshirt> eythian: Well, I've only skimmed the man page and tried a quick example of tr, but I don't see how it can do what I want.  I need something to replace each tab with anywhere from 1 to 4 spaces, depending on the previous characters in the line.  It looks like tr is just plain substitution.
[03:58] <marsh> HappyFool, you dont have BB where you are?
[03:58] <irena__> 2.3.0.4
[03:58] <eythian> EnsignRedshirt: oh, right. Then try 'sed'.
[03:58] <HappyFool> marsh: well, it's super expensive and capped at 3GB / month
[03:58] <irena__> it must be the newest
[03:58] <marsh> HappyFool, where r u?
[03:58] <eythian> EnsignRedshirt: something like (untested): sed -e 's/\t/    /g'
[03:58] <HappyFool> marsh: south africa
[03:58] <ds[de] > and if you select Tools -> NAT / Firewall Test and press 'Test' it says it should be working?
[03:58] <ds[de] > yes, 2.3.0.4 is the newest
[03:59] <marsh> Hehehe... can't beleive they're so far behind!
[03:59] <marsh> where you SA?
[03:59] <z|bandito> ok marsh 1 second
[03:59] <HappyFool> marsh: monopolistic telecoms *shrug*. i'm in pretoria
[03:59] <LaserLine> topyli phone - just a sec...
[03:59] <marsh> <- used to live in pretoria... north... Acacia
[03:59] <bigfoot1> whenever i restart/reboot/turn on my computer, i see the processes of the computer. All is OK, except for synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.nl (or some ubuntu website). How can I get that to be "OK"?
[03:59] <irena__> yes
[04:00] <ds[de] > but this is not where you change the port, right?
[04:00] <HappyFool> marsh: ah, ok. I'm in centurion, actually
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  mine says the same thing.  i just dont worry about it..
[04:00] <z|bandito> excellent, i think that did it
[04:00] <EnsignRedshirt> eythian: I can do something similar to that with perl (regex's are fun), but the problem is not as simple as replacing a tab with four spaces.   E.g. "x<tab>y" should become "x<three spaces>y", but "xx<tab>y" should become "xx<two spaces>y".
[04:00] <ds[de] > *changed
[04:00] <Kengur> hi
[04:00] <marsh> go on z|
[04:00] <z|bandito> i tried kill -9 on the process number first, is killall stronger?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  not sure what the deal is. I think its trying to sync befor networking is up and running.
[04:00] <marsh> go on z|bandito
[04:00] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: so the developers didn't know they got the order of things wrong?
[04:01] <irena__> i`ve got seeders waiting... yes, where else do you change the port?
[04:01] <marsh> HappyFool, love that drive over the mountains to Jo'burg
[04:01] <EnsignRedshirt> eythian: I think the "detab" command does this, but I tried searching in Synaptic and can't find it.
[04:01] <z|bandito> they are no longer listed by ps aux and the first workspace turned red and complains about a failed item, i think it gives an option to do it over again or go on
[04:01] <z|bandito> :)
[04:01] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: maybe we should file a bug. ?.?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  no clue. I thinkya could edit the /etc/rc2.d/ and rename the file to somthing like S99ntpdate or whatever.
[04:01] <liable> i dont believe it, suspend works out of the box on my thinkpad..
[04:01] <marsh> z|bandito, don't quote me, but i think killall kills all processes used/related to it
[04:01] <ds[de] > tools -> configuration -> first tab (server)
[04:01] <bigfoot1> liable: congrats!
[04:01] <ds[de] > the field next to "incoming tcp-port"
[04:02] <Kengur> anyone using Compro T300 card here?
[04:02] <liable> bigfoot1: not to me, to the devs :)
[04:02] <z|bandito> i reran it and it completed instantly and went on to grub configure.. just spat out the cd
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  check the wiki/forums - there maybe some other reason its messing up
[04:02] <z|bandito> thanks very much for the help :)
[04:02] <eythian> EnsignRedshirt: oh, I see what you mean. That's a little more tricky. I'd probably do it in perl if I couldn't find somehting that does it already.
[04:02] <marsh> z|bandito,  it may be a bit heavy handed, but i noob and don't know, but it works for me!!! ;D
[04:02] <topyli> LaserLine: this is what i was talking about. it seems to be a nokia 9500 clone with linux: http://www.road-gmbh.de/
[04:02] <z|bandito> works for me too ;D
[04:02] <marsh> z|bandito, pleased to be uwsful!
[04:03] <marsh> Thanks z|bandito
[04:03] <bigfoot1> does anybody have japanese input on their breezy? I used to have my japanese input working on hoary (with SCIM program), but it ain't working anymore.
[04:03] <LaserLine> topyli cool
[04:03] <bigfoot1> or chinese, or some other language
[04:03] <HappyFool> bigfoot1: i saw mention of SCIM in the breezy faq
[04:03] <HappyFool> !faq
[04:03] <ubotu> somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:03] <LaserLine> topyli AmD Athlon XP 2700+ 1GB ram is k7 kernel or 686 ?
[04:03] <bigfoot1> liable: yes.
[04:03] <topyli> LaserLine: k7
[04:04] <bigfoot1> HappyFool: i'll scan the faq.
[04:04] <marsh> I have an ERROR 15 on my GRUB when starting up my other machine.... anyone know what i can do about it?
[04:04] <St^Anger^19m> i installed xmms-skins....but i can't find them in xmms
[04:04] <irena__> no diference
[04:04] <bigfoot1> HappyFool: i'm at http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/. where is scim?
[04:05] <HappyFool> bigfoot1: just a sec
[04:05] <ds[de] > damn
[04:05] <LaserLine> why does ntp not syncing ? I have network acess....
[04:05] <irena__> yes, DAMN!
[04:05] <EnsignRedshirt> eythian: Just found the "expand" command... that might do it.
[04:05] <z|bandito> i'm still not really sure why it installed this time... i had been having problems where the system would boot from a cdrom, then complain it couldn't find the media to actually start the installation.  the box used to be running fc3 until the boot hdd died, so i couldn't figure out why it had this problem with any distro i tried, while obviously seeing the disc enough to boot from or run a bootable distro.. just not copy and ins
[04:05] <z|bandito> tall
[04:05] <ksgnu> does anybody how to install xfonts-...-transcoded packages in breezy?
[04:05] <bigfoot1> HappyFool: thank you berry macho.
[04:06] <runenes> Can I get vlc to use esd?
[04:06] <bloomberg> can anyone give a hand at errors when doing apt-get update? i can paste in my sources.list if that would help
[04:06] <marsh> z| dirty lens??
[04:06] <marsh> z|bandito,  dirty lens??
[04:06] <LaserLine> topyli isn't that a windows 95 inside that device ?
[04:06] <HappyFool> bigfoot1, http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch03s03.html  (under the 'fonts' link)
[04:06] <USER013300> alguien habla espanol?
[04:06] <irena__> in the begining, it told me (like a mesage, on the right bottom side of the screen), that if i have a firewall, to open that port...
[04:06] <bigfoot1> HappyFool: san q berry macho
[04:07] <HappyFool> !es
[04:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:07] <worthawholebean> How can I read a file consisting of filenames separated by newlines into rm?
[04:07] <silasj> hello all
[04:07] <EnsignRedshirt> eythian: Yup, "expand" works.  Thanks for taking the time earlier to try to help. Ciao.
[04:07] <topyli> LaserLine: it comes with either linux 2.6, windows CE, or symbian. here's the linux version: http://www.road-gmbh.de/en/produkte/index_02.html
[04:07] <irena__> so ubuntu dosnt have that port blocked or something?
[04:07] <silasj> hey, how can I put [pon]  to start automatically on boot?
[04:07] <erUSUL> USER013300: #ubuntu-es
[04:07] <eythian> worthawholebean: look into 'xargs'
[04:07] <eythian> EnsignRedshirt: cool :)
[04:07] <bloomberg> a lot of failed to fetch messages, and 404 Not Founds - any help?
[04:07] <LaserLine> topyli What makes NTP to not sync ? I get fail, even though I have network acess (fail on boot)
[04:07] <HappyFool> worthawholebean, something like     rm $(cat thefilewithfilenames)     maybe ?
[04:07] <z|bandito> no, i replaced the optical drive once marsh, to no avail
[04:07] <TheGeek> how can i install .deb file i downloaded?
[04:07] <LaserLine> topyli Ohh - cool !!!
[04:08] <HappyFool> !tell TheGeek about dpkg
[04:08] <EnsignRedshirt> TheGeek: sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[04:08] <wezzer> hey, is it possible to disable screensaver while watching videos with mplayer (and fullscreen) ?
[04:08] <TheGeek> thanks
[04:08] <ds[de] > irena__ no
[04:08] <thrice`> TheGeek: man dpkg
[04:08] <silasj> any idea about put [pon]  to start automaticaly?
[04:08] <dylan_> how do i configure mozplugger with totem-gstreamer?  should i instead use totem-xine?
[04:09] <topyli> LaserLine: dunno, never had problems (except when the network fails)
[04:09] <erUSUL> worthawholebean: cat file | xargs rm
[04:09] <bloomberg> i have recently added the multiverse and universe repositaries,  might these have problems with them or something?
[04:09] <marsh> z|bandito, dirty disc???
[04:09] <z|bandito> i set the bios to boot from scsi, and it says 'searching for boot record on scsi... ok' then 'operating system not found' :(
[04:09] <nlany> wezzer: why not disable screensaver before start watching video?
[04:09] <LaserLine> topyli maybe my timezone ?
[04:09] <z|bandito> nope, could verify the disc on other machines fine
[04:09] <wezzer> nlany: well, I believe there has to be easier way :)
[04:09] <marsh> z|bandito, (although i suppose the odds aren't good as that would be dirty discS
[04:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Echoing dylan_ question:  In warty, conventional wisdom was totem-xine worked better than gstreamer.  Is that still the case in breezy? (I skipped hoary.)
[04:09] <z|bandito> yeah
[04:09] <marsh> don't know then :(
[04:10] <topyli> LaserLine: system time should be utc anyway (unless you dual boot with windows)
[04:10] <marsh> still if it works now z|bandito /!?!!
[04:10] <topyli> LaserLine: ntp will fail if your time is off too much
[04:10] <z|bandito> won't boot =[
[04:10] <nlany> wezzer: maybe a script wrapper for mplayer?
[04:10] <dylan_> EnsignRedshirt, i dont know...thats kinda the reason i asked the question
[04:10] <spanglesontoast> got a problem from upgrading from hoary to breezy my volume control won't show up
[04:10] <LaserLine> topyli i dual boot with windows
[04:10] <wezzer> nlany: maybe... I'm googling around...
[04:10] <EnsignRedshirt> dylan_: Yeah, my question was to anyone :)
[04:10] <LaserLine> topyli and it damn is FASTER !
[04:11] <dylan_> EnsignRedshirt, oh ... oops
[04:11] <topyli> LaserLine: yeah, windows wants local time for some reason. historically, it's not ment to do networking after all :)
[04:11] <marsh> z| what wont boot... yr system?
[04:11] <z|bandito> yeah..
[04:11] <z|bandito> missing operating system
[04:12] <LaserLine> topyli I think i'll disable the sync...
[04:12] <bloomberg> anyone else had problems doing apt-get update?
[04:12] <topyli> LaserLine: the qtopia UI on the german phone looks pretty crappy. i like the symbian UI
[04:12] <LaserLine> topyli symbian is nicer.
[04:12] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about gnome-media not showing up?
[04:13] <topyli> LaserLine: very confusing. i'm glad nokia will use maemo (which is GTK)
[04:13] <foxgamer> Hi all! Can anyone tell me a) where the screensaver files are on ubuntu and b) is there any documentation that anyone knows of that explains what all the files in ubuntu mean? Cheers.
[04:13] <irena__> on the left side of the screen... there are three red faces... if you click help and health status... see what it sais
[04:14] <topyli> bloomberg: perhaps the mirrors you are using are simply down? try pinging them
[04:14] <LaserLine> topyli where is the bootupmanager in breezy ?
[04:14] <bloomberg> topyli: ok
[04:14] <spanglesontoast> ah
[04:14] <spanglesontoast> was the theme lol
[04:14] <spanglesontoast> dw lol
[04:14] <spanglesontoast> hoho
[04:14] <topyli> LaserLine: i see it in system -> admin. maybe it's not installed by default though
[04:15] <HappyFool> what is the default mail transfer agent (if any) on breezy? i've just installed postfix, but maybe that was a mistake
[04:15] <sigwada> help me to open my torrent file, what will i do?
[04:15] <topyli> HappyFool: postfix is default
[04:15] <thrice`> sigwada: use bittorrent ?
[04:15] <HappyFool> topyli: hrm. it wasn't installed (i think it was auto-installed in hoary)
[04:15] <LaserLine> topyli what's the name of the package ?
[04:16] <sigwada> yeah but i dont how to use it, i found it on application>internet but when i click it nothings happen
[04:16] <sigwada> i try also btdownloadcurses but it seems to be not in the command
[04:17] <foxgamer> sigwada: I think with torrent files, the program opens when you start downloading them.
[04:17] <bloomberg> topyli: can't ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com. so i guess they must be down
[04:17] <erUSUL> sigwada: double-click the file in nautilus?
[04:17] <sigwada> where i can find nautilus?
[04:17] <briander43> hello all. New Ubuntu install - XChat won't connect to any server. Any suggestions?
[04:18] <St^Anger^19m> how can i tweak my graphics performance?
[04:18] <erUSUL> sigwada: nautilus is the file manager in gnome. the windows that pop up when you open folders...
[04:18] <topyli> LaserLine: seems to be "bum" :)
[04:18] <balex> hello all, i have a lil problem, i cant find some help about installing ati driver, i downloaded the driver but i cant install ( i am a beginner in linux ). I am on Ubuntu 5.10 now. Can someone help me with it?
[04:18] <Marjo> Is it possible to use Airport Extreme with Breezy Badger without using MOL?
[04:18] <LaserLine> topyli I don't have it in the repo's
[04:18] <HappyFool> to get 'makemap' in order to make alias lookup db's for postfix, i need to install 'sendmail-bin' from universe *grumble*. this all worked in hoary, iirc
[04:19] <verde1> hi
[04:19] <balex> hi
[04:19] <LaserLine> topyli I enabled all of them... on the BUM site it says breezy repos
[04:19] <verde1> i have ubuntu amd64 and a problem w cpan
[04:20] <erUSUL> !ati
[04:20] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:20] <topyli> LaserLine: bum is in universe
[04:20] <onur> Question: I have freshly installed breezy with all default settings and Open office writer crashes with segmentation fault. I tried a fresh install 3 times all the same, what can i do ?
[04:20] <verde1> someone knows what is cc command not found
[04:20] <dylan_> is there a way to install mplayer-386 without xmms?
[04:20] <occy> !firewall
[04:20] <ubotu> firewall is, like, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[04:20] <balex> thanks
[04:20] <LaserLine> topyli relaoding again, now...
[04:20] <savas> where is the libgnomeui-2.0-dev package?
[04:20] <HappyFool> verde1, install the 'build-essential' package
[04:20] <verde1> thanx a lot
[04:21] <Marjo> Is it possible to use Airport Extreme with Breezy Badger without using MOL?
[04:21] <dylan_> can i install mplayer without xmms automatically bundled with it ?
[04:22] <Zaacc> does anyone know what the 'Killed Killed Killed' means when i try to install 5.10 Breezy Badger, i get 'killed' all the way down my screen when about to begin installing
[04:22] <balex> damn :( those pages for the ATI drivers doesnt work at the moment ...
[04:22] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know if I can get my subwoofer working
[04:22] <topyli> dylan_: this has always buggered me too. i've never seen another distro with such a strange dependency
[04:22] <spanglesontoast> I've forgotten the .asoundrc setup I had
[04:22] <onur> I am going back to Suse, cause Breezy really sucked and no one is responding
[04:22] <LaserLine> topyli I get the following error: "W: GPG error: http://il.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates release; the following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[04:23] <apokryphos> onur: adios
[04:23] <spanglesontoast> seeya onur
[04:23] <topyli> LaserLine: try updating the key with the synaptic repository preference dialog
[04:23] <dylan_> topyli, i tried compiling from source,,still nothing
[04:23] <murr> !w32codecs
[04:23] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:23] <onur> this is even more reason
[04:23] <Marjo> !airport
[04:23] <ubotu> Marjo: Not a clue
[04:23] <Marjo> :(
[04:23] <foxgamer> onur: Try using abiword as opposed to openoffice writer.
[04:23] <LaserLine> totopyli how do i do that ? it happend after installing the K7 kernel.
[04:23] <topyli> Marjo: airport doesn't work
[04:24] <spanglesontoast> or crossover
[04:24] <onur> foxgamer, what is abiword ?
[04:24] <Marjo> topyli: Do you think it'll ever will?
[04:24] <secsaba> !firewall
[04:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[04:24] <topyli> dylan_: surely if you get the source from mplayerhq you can build it any way you like
[04:24] <spanglesontoast> I prefer unfort that ms did do a good job of their office products but I not spending a dime on it hohoh
[04:24] <Marjo> it'll/it :p
[04:24] <topyli> Marjo: i'm sure they'll crack it. but apple is not helping much
[04:24] <dylan_> topyli, yeah,, but im a n00b
[04:24] <dylan_> lol
[04:24] <foxgamer> onur: I had abiword word processor installed as standard, but do a search in the repository for it. Good program to have. Oh and I would report the bug in openoffice :)
[04:25] <Marjo> topyli: I know... As soon as they get it working out of the box I'll switch. :)
[04:25] <LaserLine> topyli how can i update the list via synaptic ?
[04:26] <onur> foxgamer, I suppose this should be about ubuntu. Because I know that OO2 is working fine. Secondly My hoary installation worked fine on my system. And now i have made a fresh installation with all default settings, and without any configuration changes OO is not working. I have done this 3 times. So it is a matter of ubuntu
[04:27] <onur> I am suspecting my CD is broken
[04:27] <topyli> LaserLine: iirc, you can choose preferences -> repositories, choose the repo you want and click "authentication"
[04:27] <spanglesontoast> I didn't install using a cd
[04:27] <spanglesontoast> I'm gonna try out openoffice
[04:27] <spanglesontoast> just to be sure
[04:27] <LaserLine> topyli wierd, i just shutdown synaptic and restarted it.. worked (i guess)
[04:28] <worthawholebean> Onur: go into your CD's root directory and try: md5sum -c md5sums.txt
[04:28] <ds[de] > onur: not necessarily, I did the same thing as you (fresh breezy install with default settings) and OO.o writer works for me
[04:28] <LaserLine> topyli breezy backports aren't up yet...
[04:28] <topyli> LaserLine: so, the solution is to just "mention the problem on irc" :)
[04:28] <LaserLine> topyli LoL !
[04:28] <topyli> LaserLine: there's nothing to backport to breezy FROM
[04:29] <larsrohdin> Hi, this isn't so much of a ubuntu-queston but here it goes. Is it better to have 1,5 GB DDR400 ram, or 2GB DDR133?
[04:29] <LaserLine> topyli I had the same issue after installing the kernel for 686 on my laptop...
[04:29] <foxgamer> onur: I would report the bug to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ and if you need a working word processor, abiword works fine.
[04:29] <worthawholebean> 1.5 DDR400
[04:29] <LaserLine> topyli I :-)
[04:29] <spanglesontoast> ah I still have openoffice 1.0
[04:29] <worthawholebean> Honestly, 1.5 vs. 2 gb won't make much difference in itself
[04:29] <LaserLine> topyli I pressed restore default keys and that did the trick (i think)
[04:29] <spanglesontoast> but that's cos I did an update using hoary straight to breezy
[04:29] <spanglesontoast> as i couldn't be bothered to grab the disks
[04:30] <larsrohdin> worthawholebean, no, pherhaps not but is it a big difference between 133 and 400?
[04:30] <topyli> LaserLine: the dapper development hasn't begun yet, so there's no source. also, the breezy versions are pretty much the same as the latest versions upstream
[04:30] <LaserLine> topyli yeah... I saw it now :-)
[04:31] <LaserLine> topyli I feel like I install ubuntu for the first time... (it's my desktop) even thought it's my 6th....
[04:31] <onur> worthawholebean, are you sure that that is the command. its not working
[04:31] <LaserLine> topyli - Man , I haven't learned a thing @!
[04:31] <topyli> heh
[04:31] <bigfoot1> I have just installed uim (language input program) into my breezy. I can type japanese in gedit and openoffice, but not in a program such as opera. what's wrong?
[04:31] <onur> ds[de] , what could be the difference then
[04:31] <ds[de] > onur: as you said, maybe there was a problem burning the CD
[04:31] <zenlunatic> how do i remove a dir created with a sudo?
[04:32] <ds[de] > onur: you should compare the checksum as someone suggested earlier
[04:32] <LaserLine> anyone suceeded installinh ATI fglrx-driver on breezy, any issues ?
[04:32] <onur> ds[de] , how ? that command is not working
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> depends laserline
[04:32] <Davey> LaserLine, I had it working with dual monitors
[04:32] <topyli> LaserLine: this box is such a mess, i think i'll do a reinstall myself. i upgraded from debian to warty, to hoary, to breezy, and i have awesome amounts of crud here. my home directory dates from perhaps mandrake 8.2
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> if you ati card is gigabyte give up lol
[04:32] <Buffy_Bot>  Todays LoL count is sponsored by Gatorade(tm) - LoL  count is 1
[04:32] <ds[de] > onur: do you still have the image file?
[04:32] <Davey> LaserLine, changed to ati driver so as to get Xinerama
[04:33] <onur> yes
[04:33] <onur> ds[de] , yes
[04:33] <LaserLine> Davey the howto is for hoary, what is the procedure ?
[04:33] <ds[de] > onur: what OS are you on right now?
[04:33] <Davey> LaserLine, I just copied my Hoary config, so the How-To should be good
[04:33] <topyli> LaserLine: oh wait, the debian -> warty upgrade was not very successful so i think i did reinstall back then
[04:34] <onur> ds[de] ,  right now i am on Breezy. I have the CD with me. But the image is in my Suse computer burned with k3b
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> ok just installing openoffice 2
[04:34] <LaserLine> Davey it's a fresh breezy
[04:34] <LaserLine> topyli :-)
[04:34] <Davey> LaserLine, so try the How-to and keep your currently working xorg.conf to hand ;)
[04:35] <onur> spanglesontoast, did you just made an upgrade ?
[04:35] <ds[de] > onur: download the tool md5sum on your suse computer and try to calculate the checksum for the ubuntu cd image
[04:35] <spanglesontoast> ok open office 2 works fine
[04:35] <spanglesontoast> yea i installed it with synaptic
[04:35] <topyli> LaserLine: yeah, i downloaded the install cd yesterday but haven't had a chance to arrange any downtime since the windows client has been in use by the Lady
[04:35] <onur> ds[de] , cant i that with CD in the drive ?
[04:36] <onur> cant i do that
[04:36] <LaserLine> Davey but the ATI howto for hoary makes me edit manuely, I read somewhere they fixed these issues...
[04:36] <z|bandito> hello
[04:36] <LaserLine> Anyone here installed ATI drivers on a clean breezy installation ??
[04:36] <topyli> onur: perhaps "md5sum /dev/hdc" or whatever the device is. i'm not sure
[04:36] <ds[de] > onur: I think it would be a different checksum between the CD as a whole and just the image file
[04:36] <St^Anger^19m> how can i restart X?
[04:37] <ds[de] > topyli: are you sure the checksum is the same?
[04:37] <wezzer> St^Anger^19m: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:37] <St^Anger^19m> 10q
[04:37] <ds[de] > topyli: as compare to the checksum of the image i mean
[04:37] <topyli> ds[de] : theoretically. but no, i'm not sure at all
[04:37] <onur> topyli, ds[de] , ok md5sum is working in my suse and i have the image there. What should i type exactly
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> how do I get ubuntu to play most media formats
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> like mpeg
[04:37] <Zaacc> can i update with the breezy badger cd in my cd-rom drive? how can i do that is there a guide someplace?
[04:37] <Jason-Bourne> download compile mplayer and all the codec
[04:38] <Jason-Bourne> fo shoa
[04:38] <onur> oh
[04:38] <cliebow> would someone do a locate crt1.o for me?
[04:38] <onur> ds[de] , i got the md5sum in my screen now what ?
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> if you already have hoary installed you can just update to the next distro without a disk
[04:38] <topyli> onur: md5sum breezy-install-blah-blah.iso
[04:38] <ds[de] > onur: md5sum ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> although it is more recommended to do a new install
[04:38] <onur> topyli, ok i got the sum now what ?
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> I have no problems yet
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> :P
[04:38] <topyli> onur: compare the result to what you find on the download site
[04:38] <onur> ok
[04:38] <LaserLine> spanglesontoast depends in what ?
[04:39] <ds[de] > onur: for ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso it should be 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61
[04:39] <LaserLine> spanglesontoast the ATI drivers...
[04:39] <Zaacc> yeah spanglesontoast i tried a new install but then just when im about to install the base system it gives me a entire screen full of 'Killed Killed Killed Killed' one after each other
[04:39] <z|bandito> whats a spangle?
[04:39] <Zaacc> you know what that could be ?
[04:40] <onur> ds[de] , exactly the same
[04:40] <cliebow> like bangers and mash?
[04:40] <spanglesontoast> well laserline
[04:40] <ds[de] > onur: now at least you know it's not a problem due to a wrong CD
[04:40] <ds[de] > onur: did you file a bugreport?
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> if you have a ati card made by gigabyte like me
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> they assume that it's a normal ati card
[04:41] <P8ntKid> Whats the command to make a root password in ubuntu. I forgot.
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> but unfort it runs differently
[04:41] <bigfoot1> does anybody know whether opera runs on qt library (kde)?
[04:41] <ds[de] > P8ntKid: sudo passwd
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> it works
[04:41] <onur> ds[de] , not yet. Is there a possibility that a problem occured during burning ?
[04:41] <LaserLine> spanglesontoast i hav ATI built.
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> but games aren't 100%
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> ok
[04:41] <P8ntKid> ds[de] : Thanks.
[04:41] <ds[de] > onur: oh I forgot. that's always possible of course
[04:41] <LaserLine> spanglesontoast so i need to use the echo too ?
[04:41] <b0r1z> I am experiencing stability problems using the fglrx driver, systems hangs every sme minutes... does anyone know what might cause this problem?
[04:42] <spanglesontoast> well if it's a normal ati card
[04:42] <spanglesontoast> then you shouldn't get no problems
[04:42] <onur> ds[de] , besides how could this be a  bug. I mean i am doing the same installation with everyone else. So the situation is very strange
[04:42] <onur> ds[de] , is there a way to check ?
[04:42] <ds[de] > onur: indeed
[04:42] <onur> i mean check the CD
[04:42] <spanglesontoast> zaacc which way did you try and install it
[04:42] <ds[de] > onur: idk, hold on
[04:42] <LaserLine> spanglesontoast just apt-get and reboot ??
[04:42] <larsrohdin> Hi, for some reason my hdb1 HD which is fat32, is now only readable... This is the line from my fstab, whats wrong?
[04:42] <larsrohdin> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000   0       0
[04:42] <ds[de] > onur: I'll just search my ubuntu cd
[04:42] <onur> ok ds[de] 
[04:43] <Zaacc> spanglesontoast i tried expert and server and server-expert and the normal desktop way
[04:43] <Zaacc> they all gave the same thing that 'killed killed killed' one bellow another
[04:43] <Zaacc> and i installed 5.04 just fine
[04:44] <LaserLine> spanglesontoast i need to 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules' after installing the driver package ?
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> you did read the upgrade bit?
[04:44] <larsrohdin> anyone?
[04:44] <Zaacc> me spanglesontoast?
[04:45] <spanglesontoast> yep zaacc
[04:45] <thinkle> Hi all -- ssh-agent doesn't seem to be run for my default session anymore. As far as I know, I've changed nothing manually -- just run my usual updates (breezy) when update-manager tells me to. Anyone know what mind of changed in an update and how I can change it back?
[04:45] <Zaacc> i can't upgrade as the machine that has Ubuntu on isn't connected to the net :(
[04:45] <Zaacc> and! I'm using 56k so i decided to rather download the 5.10 iso and reinstall
[04:45] <ds[de] > onur: there's a md5sum.txt in the root folder of your CD which the checksum for every file on the CD
[04:45] <onur> ds[de] , i am write there
[04:45] <Zaacc> seeing as i just installed 5.04 just the other day
[04:45] <Zaacc> and i haven't really made many changes
[04:45] <onur> ds[de] , hold on
[04:46] <ds[de] > onur: using the -c option in md5sum you should be able to compare the files to the checksum in md5sum.txt
[04:46] <spanglesontoast> laserline I'm no good at messing with drivers
[04:46] <onur> ds[de] , yeah figured that out
[04:46] <topyli> Zaacc: you still don't have to reinstall, you can upgrade from the cd
[04:46] <ds[de] > onur: tell me if it worked
[04:47] <onur> ds[de] , waiting ... it takes some time to have a result for each
[04:47] <Zaacc> ooh topyli how could i do that? is there maybe a manual or something to doing that?
[04:47] <ds[de] > onur: ok
[04:47] <topyli> Zaacc: here's a manual: while running hoary, install the cd and answer "yes" when it asks you if you wish to upgrade :)
[04:48] <LaserLine> Restarting after installing ATI - how can I check it worked ???
[04:48] <topyli> Zaacc: insert, not install
[04:48] <Zaacc> heh thanks topyli
[04:48] <thrice`> LaserLine: fglrxinfo
[04:48] <Zaacc> buut it didn't ask me that, as i selected boot from cd
[04:48] <Zaacc> is that correct?
[04:48] <zenlunatic> im trying to build clearlooks-cairo and all i get is when i try to make :zenlunatic@ubuntu:~/clearlooks-cairo$ make
[04:48] <zenlunatic> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:48] <LaserLine> thrice' what should i see there ?
[04:49] <shawarma> zenlunatic: Why? It's already in universe..
[04:49] <topyli> Zaacc: just checked: specifically, it asks you if you want to run synaptic, using the cd as a source
[04:49] <zenlunatic> shawarma, oh i didn't know
[04:49] <LaserLine> topyli NTP works now.
[04:49] <shawarma> zenlunatic: gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[04:49] <Zaacc> topyli i'm running a server of Ubuntu though :/ not a desktop :(
[04:49] <shawarma> zenlunatic: It depends on libcairo, so I suppose it's the same thing. :-)
[04:49] <topyli> LaserLine: mentioning it on the irc helped again? :)
[04:49] <Buffy_Bot>  Todays smilie count is sponsored by Dr Pepper(tm) - smilie count is 1
[04:49] <ds[de] > does anyone know why I can't find j2se1.5 in universe?
[04:49] <zenlunatic> shawarma, i don't think thats cairo one
[04:50] <shawarma> zenlunatic: It depends on libcairo2..
[04:50] <kjon> Help! --- How do I compile the 1.0-7676 Nvidia drivers for breeze???
[04:50] <topyli> Zaacc: oh. perhaps the installer has an upgrade option too. i'm not sure
[04:50] <Zaacc> aah thanks lemme check for that
[04:50] <thinkle> exit
[04:50] <kjon> I recieve a werido gcc error. (gcc installed 4; and the kernel was compiled with 3.3)...
[04:51] <kjon> I wanna 3d...!!!
[04:51] <LaserLine> thrice` I get: Xlib : extension "Xfree86-DRI" missing on display 0:0
[04:51] <topyli> Zaacc: you have a server install that's not on the net? that's original :)
[04:51] <zenlunatic> shawarma, okay no this is cairo version that universe has
[04:51] <Jason-Bourne> hmmm that's cool :)
[04:51] <Buffy_Bot>  Todays smilie count is sponsored by Dr Pepper(tm) - smilie count is 2
[04:51] <kijo> :)
[04:51] <Buffy_Bot>  Todays smilie count is sponsored by Dr Pepper(tm) - smilie count is 3
[04:52] <Zaacc> har har topyli! haha, naa well i'm still trying to get hold of a pci network card and ! well i
[04:52] <Zaacc> i'm really just learning :)
[04:52] <Buffy_Bot>  Todays smilie count is sponsored by Dr Pepper(tm) - smilie count is 4
[04:52] <zenlunatic> shawarma, the cairo one is clearlooks-cairo
[04:52] <drcode> hi all
[04:52] <drcode> how I can compress full dir + sub dir with tar ?
[04:52] <Zaacc> naa :( no upgrade option
[04:52] <agent> anyone know what assigns network names (eth0,etc.) to hardware?
[04:52] <shawarma> zenlunatic: Have you got a link?
[04:53] <topyli> Zaacc: actually there are many cases that could be feasible. a local multimedia server or a file/print server
[04:53] <cliebow> drcode: cant you tar -cv --filename yours.tar directory
[04:54] <Belutz> Seveas, :)
[04:54] <Zaacc> yeah topyli i just wish that this installation would work :(
[04:54] <Zaacc> i've never seen this 'killed killed killed' thing before
[04:54] <Zaacc> i wonder what it means
[04:55] <onur> ds[de] , Warning 1 of 1799 computer check sums did not match
[04:55] <onur> ds[de] , but which one
[04:56] <ds[de] > onur: omg :/
[04:56] <zenlunatic> is gtk2-engines-clearlooks built with cairo support?
[04:56] <HiddenWolf> zenlunatic, should be.
[04:56] <onur> ds[de] , thats very strange that burning process went wrong
[04:56] <LaserLine> When reconfiguring xserver-xorg with ATI drivers, should I 'use kernel framebuffer device interface' ?
[04:57] <onur> ds[de] , a very rare  thing
[04:57] <ds[de] > onur: indeed .. it would probably be easier to burn the CD again than finding out which file is corrupt
[04:57] <onur> found it
[04:57] <onur> ds[de] , ./pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/openoffice.org2-core_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4_i386.deb: FAILED
[04:57] <nalioth_zZz> onur: is your iso checksummed properly?
[04:58] <drcode> thanx
[04:58] <onur> nalioths_dog, yeah
[04:58] <P8ntKid> Whats a comand i can use to see what my local IP is?
[04:58] <onur> ok i will reburn it  and check it out before installation, thx
[04:58] <Belutz> P8ntKid, ifconfig -a
[04:59] <nalioth> onur: then burn the iso as slowly as you are able
[04:59] <onur> nalioth, ok
[04:59] <onur> Thanks all
[04:59] <ds[de] > onur: good luck
[05:00] <onur> ds[de] , i also have another problem in deed
[05:00] <ds[de] > onur: what's that?
[05:00] <Ephe-Linux> I used to use SMB4K under KDE to view my Windows shares, is there an alternative for GNOME?
[05:01] <onur> i dunno if i should proceed without solving it. It is about keyboard layout
[05:01] <ethy> What package do I have to install in order to run the command "sudo ./blah blah --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy"?
[05:02] <ds[de] > onur: then you're probably asking the wrong person (me) but what is it, I'm sure, someone here will know
[05:02] <onur> anyway let me proceed with the installation and see it afterwards
[05:03] <nalioth> ethy: build-essential
[05:03] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[05:03] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:03] <s43y7> it seems that ubuntu dosn't support my integrated soundcard.. and the motherboard-manufacturer dosn't have linux-drivers at their page.. what should i do? buy a new soundcard that i KNOW is supported?
[05:04] <cliebow> s43y7: you have a pci id?
[05:04] <Blissex> s43y7: thats usually by far the easiest route. Integrated chipsets also are usually a bit rubbish.
[05:04] <ethy> nalioth: Thanks.
[05:05] <s43y7> cliebow: no, i don't :( how do i get one?
[05:05] <LaserLine> 679 fps for fgl_glxgears is good ?
[05:05] <Blissex> LaserLine: no.
[05:05] <s43y7> blissex: thanks..
[05:05] <Blissex> s43y7: however,
[05:05] <LaserLine> Blissex I don't know how to install the damn ATI drivers, I followed the how to
[05:06] <LaserLine> :-(
[05:06] <Blissex> s43y7: however, check out my troubleshooting guide for ALSA here: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[05:06] <Karhuton> I solved why OpenGL doesn't work in fglrx drivers from ATI's site
[05:06] <s43y7> Blissex, thanks! :D
[05:06] <Blissex> LaserLine: however the real test is to see the _CPU time_ when you run them
[05:06] <Karhuton> For Breezy
[05:06] <LaserLine> blissex how can i do that ?
[05:06] <kikinovak> Hi. Anyone knows how I can use Vim to open, edit and write files to my webhost, ftp.kikinovak.net? I used to do this on a Mac with BBEDit, and I'd like to use it with Vim.
[05:06] <sven> @laserline: just type in the command line: fglrxconfig    and it should work
[05:07] <xophEr> What do you know about gplflash? Is it a good choice for one who is in need of a 64bit flash player/plug-in?
[05:07] <Blissex> LaserLine: well, while the 'glxgears' is running run 'top' in a terminal window.
[05:07] <Blissex> xophEr: there aren't many other choices :-).
[05:07] <Karhuton> LaserLine, what is your problem?
[05:07] <LaserLine> blissex it's 100%
[05:08] <xophEr> Blissex, .. :) Well does it work well?
[05:08] <Blissex> kikinovak: it should ''just work'' if you open an URL. Or you can use something like RSYNC or WebDAV which is usually better.
[05:08] <topyli> xophEr: it works for some flash and not for others
[05:08] <LaserLine> Karhuton I installed breezy - fresh installation, I use the K7 kernel, I followed the howto for ati drivers on the wiki, installed the xorg, echo'ed the fglrx and edited the xorg file, and replaced the ati with fglrx
[05:08] <cliebow> s43y7: start with lspci and see what that lists...note the bus id ob:0 or like that sound cards often are 0600 devices..then lspci -n and see what pci id is
[05:08] <xophEr> doesnt sound like a solution I need. Better develop my own flash then. ->
[05:08] <Blissex> LaserLine: 100% means it is still doing sw OpenGL.
[05:09] <Blissex> xophEr: there is another Flash player.
[05:09] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I know how to fix your problem
[05:09] <LaserLine> Karhuton how ?
[05:09] <xophEr> Blissex, tell me all about it
[05:09] <Blissex> xophEr: also, there are fairly decent SWF libs in Java IIRC.
[05:09] <LaserLine> Karhuton I have nforce mother board.
[05:09] <nalioth> xophEr: gplflash
[05:10] <nalioth> xophEr: http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/
[05:10] <xophEr> nalioth, I know that one already..
[05:10] <xophEr> Have you tried the CVS of 'gplflash2' ?
[05:10] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I think I'll write it into Ubuntu's wiki
[05:11] <LaserLine> Karhuton could you tell me what to do ?
[05:11] <nalioth> xophEr: i got gplflash working on my ibook, so i am happy
[05:12] <SEJeff> nalioth: How well does gplflash work?
[05:12] <mario> hi, whats the matter with "libdvdcss2", i can't play dvd's without it and Breezy does not have it ?!?!
[05:13] <mario> libdvdcss2   it's gone from Breezy ?!?!
[05:13] <SEJeff> mario: It is illegal due to US laws so isn't shipped
[05:13] <thewayofzen> Has anyone here ever built Blackbox from CVS on ubuntu ??
[05:13] <nalioth> SEJeff: not as good as macromedia, but on my ibook, some is better than none
[05:13] <thingy> mario, run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:13] <secsaba> mario,  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:13] <SEJeff> nalioth: Very true. Does it work with firefox?
[05:14] <mario> ohhh thanx guyz :D
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : not the cvs, but did 70rc
[05:14] <Khaaaaaan> I just missed my flight to Anaheim.... looks like I am going late to MAX 2005
[05:14] <Khaaaaaan> doh!
[05:14] <Karhuton> LaserLine, copy and paste this and restart X (gdm): sudo rm /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 && sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[05:14] <nalioth> SEJeff: yes it does, but as xophEr pointed out, there is a cvs version of gplflash2, which if IT works, should be much nicer
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> Anaheim?
[05:15] <Blissex> LaserLine: when you have sorted out your ATI, Enemy Territory is a really nice game that you can download entirely for free: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/et/
[05:15] <LaserLine> Karhuton what does that do ?
[05:15] <Khaaaaaan> Can I play ET with an IBM T40?
[05:15] <LaserLine> Blissex ok. first let me solve them :-)
[05:16] <SEJeff> nalioth: Thats great news. And soon ubuntu can have out of the box flash support
[05:16] <nalioth> SEJeff: yup, that'll be good
[05:16] <Karhuton> LaserLine: it removed the libGL symlink made by mesa, and points it to ATI's own libGL. This is normally done by ATI's installer (or the deb package), but in Breezy the libraries are in a different directory and ATIs libraries are copied to a wrong directory
[05:16] <Karhuton> *removes
[05:16] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: depends on which chip it has.
[05:16] <Khaaaaaan> What are the video card requirements for Enemy Territory?
[05:16] <i_r_e_n_e> When I logged in Gnome askeed if I wanted to use the gnome or the X keyboards settings. I chose X but i need to use the keyboard switchign tool, so, how do I switch back?
[05:17] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: accelerated OpenGL, which means either DRI/DRM, or the ATI or NVIDIA binary drivers.
[05:17] <Karhuton> I'd guess the next version of ATI's drivers will know about Breezy's setup, and this won't be needed in the future
[05:17] <LaserLine> Karhuton ok, thanks - Where is the shortcut for fglrx-control after installing it ?
[05:17] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex, What chipset should I have?
[05:17] <Karhuton> LaserLine: all ATI's programs are in /usr/X11R6/bin
[05:17] <Karhuton> You can add that to your PATH, if you want
[05:18] <Khaaaaaan> I thought the binary drivers could only be installed it you had a 9xxx series card
[05:18] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: well, ATI Radeon, or NVIDIA almost any, or VIA Unichrome or Intel 815 for DRI/DRM.
[05:18] <LaserLine> Karhuton how can I do that ?
[05:18] <zenlunatic> i just built a clearlooks-cairo from cvs, but how do i use it now?
[05:18] <Belutz> Karhuton, is that for using drivers from ATI website or the fglrx driver from ubuntu?
[05:18] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: the binary drivers support practically all Radeons.
[05:18] <Karhuton> LaserLine, ask someone else, I'm busy
[05:18] <Karhuton> Belutz, yes.
[05:18] <thewayofzen> lsuactiafner, did you have to make any changes to have it recognise your artwiz fonts?
[05:18] <jimcooncat> is xubuntu ready, please?
[05:18] <Karhuton> Belutz, I'll type it into wiki - but don't know when it'll show up
[05:18] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: should I give it a go?
[05:19] <Belutz> Karhuton, ok
[05:19] <LaserLine> Karhuton thanks.
[05:19] <deFrysk> jimcooncat, you can install xubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <bigfoot1> to all: somebody advised me to do "sudo apt-get apt-build" but that doesn't work. what's wrong?
[05:19] <thewayofzen> lsuactiafner, currently the packages from the breezy repos recognise my artwiz.. but when i do cvs build.. it wont antialias.. nor will it recognise the fonts as defined in the style
[05:19] <topyli> jimcooncat: yes it is. you should join the announce mailing list :)
[05:19] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: also, the R300 project has experimental support for 9600s, and the DRI/DRM in existing Xorg supports up to the 9200s.
[05:19] <thewayofzen> the packages in the repos have the sunken bevel bug
[05:19] <bam_> question, how do I control how much ubuntu caches to ram?
[05:19] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: but yes, give it a go, if it works it is well worth it.
[05:19] <jimcooncat> do I just do a breezy server install, then apt-get xubuntu-desktop?
[05:19] <Karhuton> What is the binary driver installation wiki
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : might be since you are running the wrong binary
[05:19] <Blissex> bam_: wait for a very important link
[05:19] <Blissex> !binary drivers
[05:19] <ubotu> Blissex: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:19] <Blissex> !ati
[05:19] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:20] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: I agree, but I am afraid of losing video as a result
[05:20] <Karhuton> Danke
[05:20] <SEJeff> bam_: Lower or increase your swappiness kernel parameter
[05:20] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : updatedb ; locate blackbox | grep bin ; which blackbox
[05:20] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: naaa, no problem. You can always go back.
[05:20] <bam_> im not running a swapfile
[05:20] <bam_> currently
[05:20] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : might show you that there are two binaries and according to "which" you are running the wrong one
[05:20] <thewayofzen> lsuactiafner, i actually apt-get removed blackbox from the repos first
[05:20] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: I am kinda n00bish... but I might give it a run... ET is so money
[05:21] <thewayofzen> so there would only be the one binary
[05:21] <Blissex> bam_: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051008
[05:21] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : am implying there might be two, and that you are running the wrong one
[05:21] <LaserLine> how can I add this: ' /usr/X11R6/bin' to my path  -  and what does that mean ?
[05:21] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: dont be afraid. You can always get back the non accelerated driver.
[05:22] <thewayofzen> lsuactiafner, im saying there is only the one binary though.
[05:22] <SEJeff> Blissex: That only does the kernel parameters temporarily.
[05:22] <Khaaaaaan> *bites fingernails*
[05:22] <bam_> Blissex, this looks like a good article, thanks :)
[05:22] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: there are also several other free/semifree games that work pretty well on GNU/Linux.
[05:22] <SEJeff> bam_: Put vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf and then run sudo sysctl -p
[05:22] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : ./configure --help then
[05:22] <bam_> SEJeff, even with no swapfile?
[05:23] <utah_prole> LaserLine: $ PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin
[05:23] <lsuactiafner> or run 70rc
[05:23] <SEJeff> bam_: With no swapfile, set it to 0 instead of 10
[05:23] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: How can I tell what chipset I have on my Radeon?
[05:23] <utah_prole> it means that your computer will check that directory when looking for binaries
[05:23] <SEJeff> bam_: It's not good to not have a swap file at all though
[05:23] <lsuactiafner> Khaaaaaan : lspci
[05:23] <LaserLine> Karhuton it still doesn't work... cpu is 100% :-(
[05:23] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: LaserLine: wait a sec for some links to very nice free/semifree 3D games for Linux
[05:23] <Karhuton> LaserLine, did you restart gdm?
[05:23] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: LaserLine: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxNotes.html#majorGames
[05:24] <Karhuton> LaserLine, by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace in gdm-login screen
[05:24] <LaserLine> Karhuton I restarted the whole system.
[05:24] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: you can have a look at this file: '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' or use 'lspci' and it should tell you.
[05:25] <bam_> SEJeff, why, just curious?
[05:25] <Khaaaaaan> whoa
[05:25] <Khaaaaaan> Now that is an output
[05:25] <Karhuton> LaserLine, then you propably have a problem with DRI or AGP
[05:26] <SEJeff> bam_: When you need more ram, you switch to swap. If you have no swap, it will slow things down
[05:26] <Karhuton> LaserLine, type: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:26] <kvidell> what was that "forbidden channel" crap earlier?
[05:26] <Khaaaaaan> Eww its a 7500
[05:26] <kbrooks> kvidell: oh freenode was hacked
[05:26] <Karhuton> Goto end of file and start reading from there on up
[05:26] <bam_> i have 2gig's
[05:26] <Karhuton> Look for any problems or errors reported
[05:26] <kvidell> kbrooks: ah..
[05:26] <LaserLine> karhuton just a sec. rebooting
[05:27] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: Is it even possible with a 7500?
[05:27] <occy> !firestarter
[05:27] <ubotu> occy: Are you on ritalin?
[05:27] <occy> !firewall
[05:27] <ubotu> it has been said that firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[05:27] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: ah sure, and you are sort of lucky, and unlucky.
[05:27] <bam_> you suppost linux would need more?
[05:27] <kbrooks> occy: apt-get install firestarter
[05:27] <occy> kbrooks, howdy...
[05:27] <occy> hmm
[05:27] <LaserLine> Karhuton I have nForce 2 mother board (Asus A7N8X deluxe)
[05:27] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: ??
[05:27] <occy> kbrooks, You think if I do a server setting, that X wont' install?
[05:28] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: the  7500 is totally supported by the default Xorg server that you are already using. You just need to enable DRI, which is easy.
[05:28] <kbrooks> occy: it sure as hell wont. a server  = no X
[05:28] <occy> kbrooks, heh, nod.
[05:28] <occy> firestarter = gtk app right?
[05:28] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: So I don't need the Binary drivers?
[05:28] <kbrooks> correct
[05:28] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: the bad news is that it is a bit slow. But it should still handle Q3 based games like ET fairly decently, but without the more sophisticated bits.
[05:28] <occy> no X, no gtk, no firestarter.
[05:28] <occy> :)
[05:28] <occy> hmm
[05:28] <starscalling> hrm
[05:28] <LaserLine> Karhuton Ok. rebooting again. restarting X hangs.
[05:28] <topyli> occy: the server install installs nothing but the base system
[05:29] <kbrooks> occy: you can still have a server AND X
[05:29] <starscalling> would anyone know where to put azureue plugins by chance?
[05:29] <Maikeru> Thank you Seveas
[05:29] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: no, you dont need them, and it is easier to setup DRI/DRM than the binary drivers. But the binary driver might be a little faster. Try first with DRI/DRM, and then the binary drivers.
[05:29] <Karhuton> LaserLine, are you sure you have fglrx installed correctly?
[05:29] <Maikeru> all fixed
[05:29] <Maikeru> :D
[05:29] <LaserLine> Karhuton hangs at checking battery.
[05:29] <LaserLine> Karhuton yeah, like the wiki for 5.04
[05:29] <occy> I'm thinking about this way too much probably.  It's just for a home network.
[05:29] <occy> heh
[05:29] <topyli> occy: if you want to click on things, install webmin on the server
[05:29] <Karhuton> LaserLine, aaaa
[05:29] <LaserLine> Karhuton i also edit the xorg file and changed to ati
[05:29] <LaserLine> Karhuton from ati to fglrx
[05:29] <kbrooks> occy: too much?
[05:29] <Karhuton> LaserLine, so you didn't use the driver from ati.com
[05:29] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: the basic problem as to speed is that 7500s dont do T&L.
[05:30] <LaserLine> Karhuton and echo the fglrx
[05:30] <LaserLine> Karhuton nope.
[05:30] <occy> kbrooks, heh, not enough?
[05:30] <Karhuton> The you shouldnt've used the commands I gave you :)
[05:30] <LaserLine> Karhuton so what should i do now ?
[05:30] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: well I am glad it will work at least somewhat... but how do I enable DRI?
[05:30] <LaserLine> how to reverse it ?
[05:30] <occy> had to go hunt up a spare cdrom
[05:30] <LaserLine> or should I install the ATI drivers ?
[05:30] <occy> the one I had on this old Amd K6-300 box had died
[05:30] <Karhuton> LaserLine, sudo rm /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[05:30] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: there are quite a few tutorials online on that.
[05:31] <Blissex> !dri
[05:31] <ubotu> I don't know, Blissex
[05:31] <Blissex> !drm
[05:31] <ubotu> Blissex: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:31] <Blissex> !radeon
[05:31] <ubotu> Blissex: I haven't a clue
[05:31] <kbrooks> !nvidia
[05:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:31] <kbrooks> :P
[05:31] <kbrooks> !ati
[05:31] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:31] <kbrooks> :)
[05:31] <Blissex> kbrooks: no, no, the DRI/DRM setup, not the binary one.
[05:31] <tryingsomething> anyone tried running wow with cedega ?
[05:31] <zenlunatic> i built a gtk theme from cvs source, how do i use it? (i already make install)
[05:31] <kbrooks> Blissex: its easy
[05:31] <Blissex> kbrooks: but thanks anyhow...
[05:31] <LaserLine> Karhuton ok, so should i look in the error log ?
[05:32] <kbrooks> uncomment the DRI line
[05:32] <Blissex> kbrooks: I am trying to find a tutorial for Khaaaaaan
[05:32] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[05:32] <tryingsomething> i ran into bad fps - not that ive tried other games o cedga but compared to the linux version of ut2004 i get better on ut
[05:32] <Blissex> kbrooks: but also the kernel modules etc. so it is not as simple as that.
[05:32] <kbrooks> Blissex: OK.
[05:33] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: found a few links...
[05:33] <occy> kbrooks, I guess with the server I don't have to worry about things like office and such.
[05:33] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: this should be quite relevant, because probably you have a similar laptop: http://www.nihilanth.net/linux/dellc640-debian.html
[05:33] <occy> what have I got to lose?
[05:33] <occy> :)
[05:33] <Bazzi> hi, how can I enable dual monitoring with an nvidia card (I have installed nvidia-glx)
[05:33] <conor> USB problems, anyone?
[05:34] <don-o> what is the package name for the kernel source for breezy?
[05:34] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: Nice! Thanks dude, I hope this works....
[05:34] <occy> !webmin
[05:34] <ubotu> To use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[05:34] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: this one too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29990
[05:34] <LaserLine> Karhuton Now I'm restarting the whole system again (restarting X hanged again)
[05:35] <occy> I've got two nics in this machine... hmm...
[05:35] <occy> smell the smoke.
[05:35] <conor> can anyone help with my usb, it won't see it at all
[05:35] <zrothe> Guys how do I get my resolution >10x7
[05:36] <occy> bbl... gotta pull the plug.
[05:36] <Blissex> conor: use 'lsusb' to double check.
[05:37] <conor> just type it in the terminal?
[05:38] <don-o> the packages that come up at packages.ubuntu.com for "kernel" are 2.6.11 kernels, yet breezy is 2.6.12.
[05:38] <Blissex> conor: yes.
[05:38] <conor> nothing happened
[05:38] <HappyFool> don-o: look for linux-source-2.6.12
[05:38] <Seveas> don-o, then look at breezy...
[05:38] <zenlunatic> how to i use a gtk theme that i make && make install ?
[05:39] <nalioth> zenlunatic: as a public service, may i recommend you not use "make install"  ?
[05:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zenlunatic about checkinstall
[05:39] <Blissex> conor: try loading the drivers: 'sudo modprobe uhci-hcd' 'sudo modprobe ohci-hcd' and 'sudo modprobe ehci-hcd' and then 'lsusb' again.
[05:39] <LaserLine> Guys, I'm clueless.... Breezy + ATI Drivers + ATI Radeon 9500 PRO + Asus A7N8X deluxe (nForce2 motherboard) = no go !
[05:40] <kbrooks> nalioth: why shouldnt you?
[05:40] <don-o> Seveas: i am looking at breezy. the kernel source packages seem to stop at 2.6.11. do you have a url to the 2.6.12-9 kernel source?
[05:40] <Blissex> LaserLine: all X problems can be diagnosed by looking at '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[05:40] <Bazzi> how can I enable dual monitor support (nvidia)?
[05:40] <tryingsomething> apt-cache search kernel-source
[05:40] <LaserLine> Even when I press ctrl+alt+backspace X doesn't restart and i have to reboot the machine.
[05:40] <Blissex> Bazzi: no need to do it.
[05:40] <Bazzi> Blissex, because?
[05:41] <Blissex> Bazzi: just configure it.
[05:41] <nalioth> checkinstall makes simple debs out of your compiled source. this allows you to keep track of your programs using synaptic, aptitude or apt-get. checkinstall is used in place of "make install"
[05:41] <Bazzi> how?
[05:41] <LaserLine> Blissex I don't understand it.
[05:41] <Blissex> Bazzi: for examples, look at various files here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/
[05:41] <blanco> join #ubuntu-es
[05:41] <Blissex> Bazzi: or look at any ''dual head'' tutorial.
[05:41] <LaserLine> Blissex could you help me please ?
[05:42] <Bazzi> no-go w/ built-in ubuntu config?
[05:42] <Blissex> LaserLine: I'll try...
[05:42] <conor> Blissex: No response on any of the drivers or the lsusb.
[05:42] <Seveas> don-o, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[05:42] <LaserLine> blissex can me /msg ?
[05:42] <zenlunatic> nalioth, checkinstall said it failed to build
[05:42] <mojo> yo hi every1, i am using Breezy, yahoo!
[05:42] <Jeromee> nalioth: so what you just said there, is I could compile a source for some off-the wall reason, thats not supported, and it'll make a deb using check install so I can remove it using apt-get/synaptic?
[05:42] <foxiness> grub think its on (hd0,2) and the correct one is (hd0,1) and every time i do upgrade to kerenl it take the uncorrect info to grub,how can i solv this for ever?
[05:42] <Blissex> Bazzi: I think there is a dual monitor configurator somewhere in Ubuntu, but I do everything manually.
[05:42] <Seveas> don-o, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=breezy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=linux-source&searchon=names
[05:42] <mikefletcher> Does anyone know how to use the number pad on a Mac keyword?  I'm using BB on a Mac MiniZ
[05:42] <Blissex> LaserLine: just use pastebin.com or something similar
[05:43] <CaptObvious> what's a multihome install?
[05:43] <Blissex> LaserLine: also, the output of 'glxinfo'.
[05:43] <Sephran> Ubunti Live, if I install software, itll be gone when I close down ubuntu, right?
[05:43] <don-o> Seveas: thanks.
[05:43] <Seveas> foxiness, put your menu.lst on the pastebin
[05:43] <Sephran> ubuntu*
[05:43] <Blissex> Sephran: yes.
[05:43] <Seveas> Sephran, yes
[05:43] <Bazzi> that nvidia config tool only shows DFP-0 :(
[05:43] <nalioth> zenlunatic: did you look at the error report? some things dont conform to source code standards (themes may not have a "make install" like normal source, since they are only pictures, and text)
[05:43] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about alsa when you do a speaker test and it gets stuck to the left?
[05:43] <CaptObvious> a multiseat system sorry
[05:43] <nalioth> Jeromee: yes exactly, try it out, it's in the repos
[05:44] <conor> Blissex, I have a thinkpad 390E laptop, I heard others USB was broken on this machine...
[05:44] <LaserLine> blissex you want me to reboot, log in to X and then what ?
[05:44] <Blissex> conor: that can be bad news.
[05:44] <Jeromee> nalioth: I will when I get my system back online, damn hardware upgrades.
[05:44] <LaserLine> I know pastebin, how can i post the whole file /
[05:44] <nalioth> Jeromee: the deb it builds isnt for distribution (it's not debian standard) but it is fine for local use
[05:44] <LaserLine> ?
[05:44] <Blissex> LaserLine: why reboot? In which environment are you?
[05:44] <conor> Blissex: The modprobe didn't work, am I finished?
[05:45] <Khaaaaaan> Man... DRI is really confusing :(
[05:45] <LaserLine> Blissex when i press ctrl+alt+backspace X doesn't restart
[05:45] <zenlunatic> nalioth dpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`cairo') doesn't contain any digits
[05:45] <zenlunatic> dpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file
[05:45] <Jeromee> noirequus: gotcha
[05:45] <Blissex> conor: basically yes. You can always buy a PCMCIA card with USB, they are fairly cheap and usually they just work.
[05:45] <Sephran> Will I be able to access my windows partitions through Ubuntu live?
[05:45] <LaserLine> blissex I'm from my hoary laptop
[05:45] <Blissex> LaserLine: why do you want to restart now?
[05:45] <LaserLine> Blissex so I could have Gnome working.
[05:45] <noirequus> zenlunatic: yes, checkinstall does require version numbers in the fields
[05:45] <da_bon_bon> does ubuntus firefox package have pango enabled ?
[05:45] <TiMiDo> Sephran yes
[05:45] <foxiness> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/395453
[05:45] <conor> Blissex: ok, thanks for trying man.
[05:45] <TiMiDo> Sephran the only thing you need to mount the windows partition
[05:45] <LaserLine> Blissex system is up, what now ?
[05:46] <Blissex> LaserLine: what about describing exactly what your situation is? That is, you got a laptop with Hoary, what else?
[05:46] <zenlunatic> noirequus, what do you mean version numbers?
[05:46] <LaserLine> Blissex no no no...
[05:46] <Sephran> Timido: where do I do that? *looks in the menus*
[05:46] <spudse> Does Xinerama works with the fglrx driver from synaptic ?
[05:46] <TiMiDo> on the terminal Sephran
[05:46] <LaserLine> Blissex I'm working from my laptop with hoary- it's so old it doesn't have 3d acceleration. I installed Breezy - clean installation on my desktop
[05:47] <da_bon_bon> why was mozilla-firefox renamed to firerox ?
[05:47] <da_bon_bon> *firefox
[05:47] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: ?
[05:47] <LaserLine> Blissex Athlon XP 2700+, ATI Radeon 9500PRO, Asus A7N8X deluxe mobo (nForce2) 1GB RAM
[05:47] <dmlinux> Anyone have an idea how to patch http://www.holtmann.org/linux/kernel/patch-2.6.13-mh2.gz into my Kernal ???
[05:47] <kbrooks> !info firefox
[05:47] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[05:47] <TiMiDo> da_bon_bon the mozilla-firefox still exist
[05:47] <TiMiDo> !info mozilla-firefox
[05:47] <noirequus> zenlunatic: when checkinstall shows you the screen with pkg name, version, bleh blah, and asks if all is correct, make sure it has version numbers
[05:47] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (dummy transitional package), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[05:47] <kbrooks> !info mozilla-firefox
[05:47] <noirequus> g2g
[05:47] <TiMiDo> u see ;P
[05:47] <da_bon_bon> yesss
[05:47] <LaserLine> Blissex I installed the K7 kernel, and all the upgrades (6 total) and then rebooted
[05:47] <TiMiDo> same thing
[05:47] <kbrooks> its a dummy pkg
[05:47] <da_bon_bon> why is it a dummy translational package ?
[05:47] <kbrooks> for firefox
[05:48] <LaserLine> Blissex then went to the wiki and followed the ATI BINARY HOW TO
[05:48] <silent_scream> how can i configure my joysticks?
[05:48] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: it depends on mozilla-firefox
[05:48] <LaserLine> Blissex for hoary (no breezy)
[05:48] <kbrooks> oddly enough
[05:48] <da_bon_bon> oh ok.
[05:48] <dmlinux> Anyone here know how to patch the kernal with some code some guy gave me
[05:48] <kb3eqa> morning all
[05:48] <TiMiDo> dmlinux you need to recompile all the kernel for that,
[05:48] <LaserLine> Blissex now, glxgears works slow, and cpu is 100%, fgl_gears gives 600fps, and when i press ctrl+alt+backspace X doesn't restart.
[05:48] <bam_> morning
[05:49] <kb3eqa> I have an ubuntu installation issue I need some assistance with
[05:49] <quest213> anyone knows why ubuntu (v5.04) doesn't allow larger resolution than 1024x768 on external lcd display? The gfx card in question is ati mobility radeon m6 ly (using the radeon driver)
[05:49] <kbrooks> dmlinux: you will have to recompile ALL kernel
[05:49] <dmlinux> timido i have to reinstall ??
[05:49] <kbrooks> dmlinux: no
[05:49] <TiMiDo> dmlinux no recompile the kernel
[05:49] <LaserLine> Blissex I used xorg ati package from ubuntu repo's instead of the ati driveres from there site.
[05:49] <kbrooks> recompile != reinsall
[05:49] <bobbyd> j'aime bien les saucisses et la puree
[05:49] <dmlinux> timido im a noob, how do i do that :P
[05:49] <kbrooks> dmlinux: um
[05:49] <TiMiDo> !tell bobbyd about fr
[05:49] <kbrooks> dmlinux: WHO gave you the code
[05:49] <verde1> hi
[05:49] <TiMiDo> hi verde1
[05:49] <kbrooks> dmlinux: What did the person claim it would do?
[05:50] <verde1> someone can suggest me a perl ide
[05:50] <kb3eqa> I've got winxp on 20GB of the disk, the partition is fat32. I ran ubuntu's installer, ran through everything up till disk partitioning just fine. I partitioned the disk, 21GB ext3 with / mount point, and turned the bootable flag on
[05:50] <kb3eqa> and a 500MB swap space
[05:50] <dmlinux> kbrooks BlueZ.org, Marcel Holtman, its supposed to get my bluetooth mouse working
[05:50] <carpediem> quest213: you have to set resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <LaserLine> Blissex this is the situation,  ohh - and Karhuton told me to do this 'sudo rm /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 && sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1' but he thought I was using the ATI driveres from there site, so we reveresed it by using this : 'sudo rm /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1'
[05:50] <kb3eqa> partitioned it, base system installer runs, and craps out at the end for like 5 different things pertaining to the bootstrap
[05:50] <kb3eqa> anyone have an idea?
[05:50] <kbrooks> dmlinux: its included in 2.6
[05:51] <CaptObvious> kb3eqa - we need exact error messages
[05:51] <onur> As far as i understand Ubuntu has dropped its Turkish keyboard Layout support in Breezy
[05:51] <quest213> carpediem: those are set but X.org doesn't allow resolution higher than 1024x768
[05:51] <Blissex> LaserLine: which package management do you use? 'apt-get', 'aptitude' or 'synaptic?
[05:51] <topyli> dmlinux: i could send you some code you can patch your kernel and ssh servers with :)
[05:51] <kb3eqa> lemme run it again
[05:51] <kbrooks> "The overall goal of this project is to make an implementation of the Bluetooth wireless standards specifications for Linux. The code is licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL) and is now included in the Linux 2.4 and Linux 2.6 kernel series."
[05:51] <dmlinux> kbrooks the guy says its not, and im a beleiver because my mouse STILL doesnt work, and ive been working with it for a week
[05:51] <carpediem> quest213: what do you mean, doesn't allow?
[05:51] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: I think this DRI stuff is wayyyy over my head... ha ha
[05:51] <starscalling> ok last problem for the weekend:  Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed. <<<<----- how do i get rid of that?
[05:51] <kbrooks> topyli: dont mock him
[05:52] <dmlinux> topyli ssh servers?
[05:52] <kbrooks> dmlinux: never mind him
[05:52] <kbrooks> dmlinux: read:
[05:52] <carpediem> quest213: I'm running at 2560x1024 on dual LCDs right now.
[05:52] <kbrooks> "The overall goal of this project is to make an implementation of the Bluetooth wireless standards specifications for Linux. The code is licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL) and is now included in the Linux 2.4 and Linux 2.6 kernel series."
[05:52] <topyli> dmlinux: i'm joking of course
[05:52] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: it is one or two lines in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' and another couple lines in '/etc/modules'
[05:52] <topyli> dmlinux: what i mean is, never accept such an offer
[05:52] <CaptObvious> I'll need to patch my kernel soon
[05:52] <kbrooks> CaptObvious: why
[05:52] <CaptObvious> for iMac G5 thermal control support
[05:53] <quest213> carpediem: it ignores resolutions higher than 1024x768
[05:53] <kbrooks> topyli: a offer for what?
[05:53] <LaserLine> Blissex synaptic
[05:53] <carpediem> quest213: did you restart X?
[05:53] <topyli> kbrooks: random code
[05:53] <quest213> carpediem: tried that
[05:53] <Khaaaaaan> blissex: it looks like I am supposed to download some deb pacage
[05:53] <verde1> some knows a perl ide??
[05:53] <CaptObvious> cos without it, the fans run full pelt and the CPU is clocked down
[05:53] <quest213> carpediem: much higher resolutions should work, at least they do in windows
[05:53] <kbrooks> topyli: why
[05:53] <dmlinux> kbrooks i know but the owner of the website told me that i still have to patch my kernal with the mh2 code, inorder for my scroll wheel to work, because with bluez my mouse is not supported in the apt-get version
[05:53] <Blissex> LaserLine: Khaaaaaan no, you dont need to do it with DRI/DRM.
[05:53] <kvidell> kbrooks: it could be faulty, or malicious.
[05:53] <Sephran> enabling a partion from windows to be browsed in Ubuntu Live, ..is that done in System -> Diskmanager?
[05:54] <LaserLine> Blissex what ?
[05:54] <carpediem> quest213: where are you saying its not allowed?  Does the Screen Resolution widget not show your resolution?
[05:54] <Blissex> LaserLine: oops
[05:54] <Khaaaaaan> ha ha
[05:54] <Khaaaaaan> mis-com
[05:54] <LaserLine> Blissex LoL :)
[05:54] <quest213> carpediem: right, the resolutions higher than 1024x768 don't even show in the list
[05:54] <kbrooks> topyli: read above
[05:54] <Blissex> LaserLine: just do whatever this page says: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:54] <LaserLine> Blissex I use synaptic.
[05:54] <topyli> kbrooks: i for one would never patch my kernel with code i don't know from any random hacker. especially as i can't read it very well
[05:55] <snowblink> hi does anyone have a problem with freezes using System->Administration->Networking with ndiswrapper?
[05:55] <kvidell> er, that was aimed for... someone else. sorry kbrooks
[05:55] <topyli> kbrooks: oh, so it's not exactly "random code"
[05:55] <LaserLine> Blissex I did it...
[05:55] <quest213> carpediem: x.org ignores resolutions that are "too high" for the display or for the driver to handle and drops them from the configuration at load
[05:55] <kvidell> I lots track of the conversation
[05:55] <Blissex> LaserLine: right now? You did it right now?
[05:55] <kvidell> er... no it was for you
[05:55] <kvidell> god I'm confused
[05:55] <kb3eqa> ok, right after partitioning, before it installs the base system I get the warning "Filesystem reporting 1083889 clusters, not 1073439...WARNING"
[05:55] <LaserLine> Blissex before I asked for help, yes.
[05:55] <kb3eqa> I click ignore
[05:55] <kb3eqa> runs through base system install
[05:56] <quest213> carpediem: it reads so in /var/log/X.org.0.log or whatever filename name was
[05:56] <LaserLine> Blissex after installing the K7 kernel I followed this howto
[05:56] <dmlinux> kb3eqa  did you try defragging windows partition
[05:56] <Khaaaaaan> How do I get into my xorg.conf?
[05:56] <Blissex> LaserLine: Do it again.
[05:56] <carpediem> quest213: wow, I've never heard of that.
[05:56] <kb3eqa> and I get two errors "Bootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) Check target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details"
[05:56] <Blissex> LaserLine: as in right now.
[05:56] <LaserLine> Blissex I should undo my xorg changes ?
[05:56] <dmlinux> kd3eqa /shrug idk lol
[05:56] <kb3eqa> the drive was already partitioned when windows was installed
[05:56] <quest213> carpediem: np, thanks for help
[05:56] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: just use any text editor, for example 'gedit'
[05:56] <kb3eqa> and the windows install isn't 2 days old yet
[05:57] <LaserLine> blissex should I reinstall or uninstall the ati drivers ?
[05:57] <dmlinux> kb3eqa go back into windows and format the partition you are trying to install linux on
[05:57] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: you need to be 'root' to edit '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:57] <carpediem> quest213: have you googled the exact text of the error.  Probably the only way to find a work around.
[05:57] <Blissex> LaserLine: reinstall them
[05:57] <kb3eqa> gah
[05:57] <kb3eqa> I'm just going to wipe the disk
[05:57] <sambagirl> i have a major problem. I have to re-install ubuntu a 3rd time now.  It will not let me logon. I dont get the graphic screen logon now. just texting prompt. does not recoginize anything.
[05:57] <Blissex> LaserLine: also, look at the paragraph that begins  Common issue:
[05:57] <kb3eqa> if I can make my wireless card work with ndiswrapper, I dont need windows on that system anyhow
[05:57] <CaptObvious> um, I have 3 kernel options and I dunno which to choose: linux-powerpc64-smp, linux-image-powerpc64-smp or linux-image-2.6.12-9-powerpc64-smp
[05:57] <LaserLine> Blissex and my xorg settings ?
[05:57] <quest213> carpediem: actually there's no actual error, x.orgs radeon driver just seems to ignore resolutions higher than 1024x768 although it should support them
[05:57] <dmlinux> kb3eqa thats what i did, wiped everything reinstalled everything, less "dirty" that way
[05:58] <LaserLine> Blissex I followed that too...
[05:58] <sambagirl> is there recovery?
[05:58] <Blissex> LaserLine: they won't be touched.
[05:58] <kb3eqa> dmlinux, everyone says never to install windows after linux though
[05:58] <riddlebox> I have been reading alot that when using ndiswrapper I need to set my radio state to 0, does anyone know how to do that?
[05:58] <kb3eqa> so is there any way to make it dual boot?
[05:58] <dmlinux> kb3eqa right windows first
[05:58] <LaserLine> blissex should I restore them ?
[05:58] <kb3eqa> but this windows install is BRAND new
[05:58] <kb3eqa> like 2 days ago
[05:58] <dmlinux> kb3qa windows things GRUB is yummy and loves to eat it
[05:58] <CaptObvious> anybody?
[05:58] <sambagirl> says login times out after 60 seconds
[05:58] <kb3eqa> firefox is the only thing thats been installed
[05:58] <Blissex> LaserLine: what? The settings?
[05:58] <CaptObvious> choice of kernels?
[05:58] <kb3eqa> ok
[05:59] <kb3eqa> I'm gonna wipe it I guess
[05:59] <sambagirl> loops saying out of memory
[05:59] <Hu90`Br0z> hi
[05:59] <LaserLine> blissex yes, i backed them up before changing to fglrx and adding the 'useinternalgart' to no (i hope i did it in the right place)
[05:59] <CaptObvious> um, I have 3 kernel options and I dunno which to choose: linux-powerpc64-smp, linux-image-powerpc64-smp or linux-image-2.6.12-9-powerpc64-smp - any ideas which I should choose?
[05:59] <Blissex> LaserLine: I want to make sure your system is configured in a clear way.
[05:59] <Blissex> LaserLine: so please lets start more or less from scratch. Just do whatever it says in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:00] <Agrajag> CaptObvious: the first one is a metapackage that keeps the latest kernel install, so install that
[06:00] <CaptObvious> thanks Agrajag
[06:00] <sambagirl> io'll just reinstall windows, bye
[06:00] <Agrajag> installed evem
[06:00] <Agrajag> EVEN
[06:00] <Agrajag> ok I hate this new keyboard
[06:00] <Blissex> LaserLine: and just that...
[06:01] <LaserLine> blissex ok.
[06:01] <onur> Breezy has dropped Turkish Layout support!
[06:01] <kb3eqa> well
[06:01] <Blissex> LaserLine: ideally, as you do each line, let me know you are doing it.
[06:01] <kb3eqa> its a good thing I didn't have anything on windows yet
[06:01] <kb3eqa> cause ubuntu apparently made it unbootable
[06:01] <kb3eqa> yay
[06:01] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: I think I am just going to run the game and see what happens... I dont want to break anything...
[06:02] <LaserLine> blissex how can i apt-get reinstall ?
[06:02] <LaserLine> i'm on the first line for hoary...
[06:02] <starscalling> would anyone know about gdk ?
[06:02] <Flendor> Onur - Really?? I'm downloading the 5.10 install CD now.. I hope one can get it someway
[06:02] <kbrooks> Flendor: shipit.ubuntulinux.com
[06:03] <bonee> where happen to all the mpg support
[06:03] <Flendor> kbrooks - I meant, the Turkish layout
[06:03] <freemanen> I get a white screen after installing ubuntu. ehat could it deppend on?
[06:03] <bonee> i can't play any vcd
[06:03] <LazyAngel> what do you do when something wont stop in /etc/init.d ?
[06:03] <Blissex> LaserLine: add '--reinstall' after 'apt-get'
[06:03] <onur> Flendor, the default configration has a very buggy Turkish Layout support whic is not working at all
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> my laptop acts weird
[06:03] <Flendor> The download is at %93 now..
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> it always deletes my local package information
[06:04] <LaserLine> blissex did that from synaptic, finished reinstalling
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> so when synaptic downloads the list of packages, it thinks ALL packages are new in the repository
[06:04] <Flendor> onur - Do you accept private messages?
[06:04] <onur> Flendor, but theres a post in the forum as a solution, i am gonna try
[06:04] <onur> yes
[06:04] <LaserLine> blissex now i'm doing the 'echo'
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> QUESTION:  Is it possible to offline-upgrade to 64 bit Ubuntu?
[06:05] <onur> Flendor, i mean i should but i can not initiate and open dialog box
[06:05] <Blissex> LaserLine: next do the "sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx" bit
[06:05] <LaserLine> blissex finished the echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:05] <entius> Hi, i have perl installed via synaptic, but i want to recompile it. How can i know if my recompilation has been done over the already installed perl?
[06:05] <SEJeff> How do I disable ipv6 completely in breezy?
[06:05] <jason__> i installed java, and cannot get the plugin to work with breezy
[06:05] <jason__> i did a sym link
[06:05] <jason__> ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[06:06] <LaserLine> blissex did this "sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx"
[06:06] <LaserLine> blissex now what ?
[06:06] <jason__> and it still does not work (using breezy)
[06:06] <goh> Hey any1 into gaming on linux? I was doing some research on open source gaming and came across this site.... looks impressive
[06:06] <goh> http://www.cubeengine.com/
[06:06] <Sephran> allright, stupid question..but how do you open the terminal? =P
[06:06] <jason__> is there anything else i should be using
[06:06] <LaserLine> blissex before the procedure started, I restored the orignial xorg.
[06:07] <Blissex> LaserLine: any error messages from 'sudo modprobe fglrx'?
[06:07] <goh> Any other recommendations for open source games?
[06:07] <Blissex> LaserLine: fine, lets continue.
[06:07] <dooglus> onur: why do you say that breezy has dropped Turkish layout support?
[06:07] <jason__> Sephran, applications->system tools->terminal
[06:07] <onur> dooglus, because it is not working at all
[06:07] <Blissex> goh: have a look here for some pointers: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxNotes.html#majorGames
[06:07] <Davey> how do I reconfigure xorg?
[06:07] <LaserLine> blissex no output.
[06:07] <Blissex> LaserLine: good.
[06:07] <dooglus> onur: that's just a bug.  it should be fixed soon.  the support is still there: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/turkish.png
[06:07] <Blissex> LaserLine: sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:07] <dooglus> onur: you can fix it for yourself if you download a pair of .debs from the bugzill
[06:07] <dooglus> a
[06:08] <LaserLine> blissex with sudo ?
[06:08] <Blissex> LaserLine: yes...
[06:08] <onur> dooglus, i have bug reported another issue about a misdisplayed Turkish letter two months ago, it is still not covered and still same in Breezy
[06:08] <Ephe-Linux> How can I get the w32codecs package installed? I followed the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3    but still says w32codecs not found.
[06:08] <LaserLine> blissex did that.
[06:08] <entius> And if i have old perl 5.8.4 directories in the system, can i remove it? Is there any way to uninstall previous versions?
[06:08] <Blissex> LaserLine: after that edit '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' with 'Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"'
[06:09] <LaserLine> blissex where do i put that ?
[06:09] <troth>  hey i need help, my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:09] <goh> Blissex: tks a lot! I never knew that those games can run on linux
[06:09] <SEJeff> Ephe-Linux: M$ sent a legal warning to the guys hosting w32codecs... does that answer your question?
[06:09] <Ephe-Linux> yikes
[06:09] <dooglus> onur: what is the bug number?
[06:09] <onur> dooglus, so i am very much dubios if it is gonna be fixed in the futere
[06:09] <goh> Blissex: I'll surely try them in my free time. Tks 4 the tip
[06:09] <dooglus> onur: the bug I'm talking about is https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15372
[06:09] <onur> dooglus, hold on let me tell
[06:09] <LaserLine> blissex where do i put this option ?
[06:09] <SEJeff> Ephe-Linux: They are working on a new deb that will pull the "illegal" parts off of the internet from the M$ site I believe so it will be completely legal
[06:10] <Blissex> LaserLine: there should be a 'Device' section with line lik 'Driver "fglrx"', put it after that line.
[06:10] <Ephe-Linux> nice
[06:10] <onur> dooglus, bug ID is 13260
[06:10] <Hu90`Br0z> i'm looking for some help to configure a usb box for hdd with chipset scanlogic sl11
[06:10] <Hu90`Br0z> can anyone help me?
[06:10] <LaserLine> blissex after the Driver "fglrx" ?
[06:10] <onur> dooglus, you can search for keyword Turkish in bugzilla and see it
[06:10] <Davey> wow, that sucks
[06:11] <CaptObvious> what does the "Build LTSP chroot" option do in the installer?
[06:11] <Blissex> LaserLine: yes.
[06:11] <Sephran> hmmm...unless the changed translation of terminal dramaticly in the dutch version, Im not sure I see terminal in system tools
[06:11] <Sephran> they*
[06:11] <LaserLine> blissex I should keep the spacing ?
[06:11] <SEJeff> Sephran: Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[06:11] <Blissex> LaserLine: the spacing does not matter how much, as long as it is there.
[06:11] <sambagirl> i cannot login to ubuntu, can i recover?
[06:11] <boabsta> anyone know how to install Skype?
[06:11] <LaserLine> Blissex done
[06:11] <LaserLine> blissex now what ?
[06:11] <troth>  hey i need help, my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:12] <Sephran> ah found it under ' Hulpmiddelen' ..
[06:12] <sid77> hello everybody
[06:12] <Blissex> LaserLine: type this line: 'sync; sync; sync'
[06:12] <onur> dooglus, see it ?
[06:12] <SEJeff> Sephran: Thats exactly what I was about to say :)
[06:12] <sambagirl> what bootloader does ubuntu use?
[06:12] <goh> Any idea if one can run warcraft 3 on linux?
[06:12] <LaserLine> blissex where ?
[06:12] <sid77> I'm trying out ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop and I found something "strange"
[06:12] <bam_> any other speed optimizations anyone would suggest for ubuntu
[06:12] <Blissex> LaserLine: in any terminal command line
[06:12] <entius> sambagirl, grub i think
[06:12] <LaserLine> blissex done
[06:12] <napsy> hi
[06:13] <sambagirl> ok thank you entius
[06:13] <Blissex> now try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[06:13] <LaserLine> blissx it restarted
[06:13] <bam_> no on the quitting x-server bit
[06:13] <LaserLine> blissex it restarted
[06:13] <Blissex> LaserLine: so far so good, now the fun begins...
[06:13] <sambagirl> damnit i hating have to format and do new install 3 times now.
[06:13] <sambagirl> bye
[06:13] <Blissex> LaserLine: log in again, and open a web browser, and go to pastebin.com
[06:13] <LaserLine> blissex i did exactly the same thing, but without the sync sync sync
[06:14] <Sephran> pssh, for the old school they should make the terminal Black background and green letters =P
[06:14] <Khaaaaaan> How can I test what my FPS is?
[06:14] <Blissex> LaserLine: thge 'sync' only saves a few buffers...
[06:14] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: most games have a FPS display option.
[06:14] <bam_> anyone know what would cause ubuntu to mount a usb drive 8x?
[06:14] <LaserLine> blissex now what ?
[06:14] <dooglus> onur: I see it.  nobody has commented on it at all.
[06:14] <sid77> I can setup wireless access via ndiswrapper, I have to route the wireless through a windows machine: wireless connectivity looks working: I can ping the wireless windows box, I can ping the router (which provides dns), I can even ping external websites such as google or mozilla but I can not navigate through firefox or use synaptic, any ideas?
[06:14] <TiMiDo> bam_ mount -f /device and put it on the /etc/fstab
[06:15] <boabsta> i've followed the instructions on ubuntuguide for installing skype but i couldnt install the library it mentions, is there another way to install Skype?
[06:15] <Blissex> LaserLine: now run in a command line 'sudo fglrxinfo' and paste the output to pasteBin.com
[06:15] <Blissex> LaserLine: so I can have a look at it.
[06:16] <bam_> tried something similiar but didnt work
[06:16] <onur> dooglus, yeah cause Turkish is not popular that much. Some body posted a reply in the forums i am gonna try it for a one last shot, and let you know the result (for the new bug in breezy)
[06:16] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395482
[06:16] <bam_> its a usb hdd(zaurus)
[06:16] <LaserLine> blissex i had the same report last time i tried...
[06:17] <dooglus> onur: do you have problems other than the dot on the 'I' now?  or is it just the dot that's wrong?
[06:17] <Blissex> bam_: for a possible issue with most external USB boxes check this: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051002
[06:17] <bam_> TiMiDo, so it appears as /media/usb-(1.,2,3,4,5,6,7)
[06:17] <net_benjo> Hi, after installing breezy I cant activate my wireless card on my laptop...the button on the case simply doesn't turn it on..i dont' know what else to try
[06:17] <bam_> lemme see
[06:17] <Karhuton> LaserLine, what's your problem at the moment?
[06:17] <Blissex> LaserLine: it is installed and working.
[06:17] <Blissex> LaserLine: have you got 'xscreensaver' installed too?
[06:18] <onur> dooglus, in hoary, not at at all. Except the dot it was perfectly fine. But it breezy, it is not working at all. Now i am refering to this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77092&highlight=turkish
[06:18] <LaserLine> blissex when i run glxgears i have 100% cpu and it's slow
[06:18] <Ephe-Linux> How can I install the XviD codec?
[06:18] <D1> grrrrrr firefox keeps crashing randomly when I press to view jpgs or other links
[06:18] <Blissex> LaserLine: so, have you got 'xscreensaver' installed?
[06:18] <onur> it breezy -> in breezy
[06:18] <D1> that happen to anyone?
[06:18] <Blissex> LaserLine: for example what does 'locate atlantis' say?
[06:18] <LaserLine> Blissex i guess.. it's a default breezy installation
[06:19] <Karhuton> laserline, could you do this for me: ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL*
[06:19] <dooglus> onur: if the whole layout is broken, that's probably because of the bug I mentioned earlier.  there's a fix in bugzilla which should hit the 'update' breezy repos soon.
[06:19] <mister_roboto> D1: doesn't happen to me
[06:19] <Sephran> I have a HD with two partitions, one with windows, one with files. I want to mount the one with files ( /dev/hda1  ) ..what do I type?
[06:19] <net_benjo> does anybody know how else I can 'turn on' my wireless card.  the button on my case does not work, and nothing happens when i do it thought system>>administration>>networking
[06:19] <Sephran> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[06:19] <Sephran> sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[06:19] <bam_> actually it only happens with my zaurus, and not  a 100gb external usb drive I have
[06:20] <onur> dooglus, did you checked the post i have given ?
[06:20] <Sephran> err hda5 is the one with files
[06:20] <xerox> Hi.
[06:20] <xerox> I deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[06:20] <xerox> It was a stupid move, wasn't it?  :-\
[06:20] <LaserLine> blissex it's here sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx"
[06:20] <dooglus> onur: I did.  I'm replying to it now.
[06:20] <LaserLine> blissex it's here http://pastebin.com/395488
[06:21] <Khaaaaaan> blissex: I am going to try adding a couple lines to xorg.conf
[06:21] <D1> mister_roboto: can you try this link? this is where it crashes...its javascript. http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=24719&file1=24719-1.png&file2=24719-2.png&file3=&name=Ubuntu+World
[06:21] <LaserLine> blissex it finds the files - and yes, i have it installed, i checked synaptic
[06:21] <onur> dooglus, ok after restarting X, i will try the bug report you mentioned
[06:21] <Blissex> LaserLine: then run /usr/lib/xscreensaver/atlantis and see if what the CPU time is like.
[06:21] <Khaaaaaan> I put them in the pastebin
[06:21] <Blissex> LaserLine: also....
[06:21] <LaserLine> Karhuton just  a second please :-)
[06:22] <defendguin> what plugins for totem do i need to install for it to play a dvd?
[06:22] <rak_> Hi, has anyone got sysprof to work on ubuntu
[06:22] <mister_roboto> D1: showing it now in firefox.  works fine
[06:22] <Blissex> LaserLine: but to the pastebin.com the output opf 'ldd /usr/lib/xscreensaver/atlantis', Karhuton will also be interested in that.
[06:22] <LaserLine> blissex cpu is 2.0
[06:22] <Blissex> LaserLine: 2.0 percent?
[06:22] <D1> mister_roboto: ok, thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
[06:23] <xerox> Do you know how to rebuild /var/apt/cache/archives/partial ?
[06:23] <Blissex> LaserLine: as in: user CPU is 2.0 percent?
[06:23] <LaserLine> blissex, just run the ldd ?
[06:23] <LaserLine> blissex or run both at the same time ?
[06:23] <Blissex> LaserLine: run 'ldd' it does not interfere with the other.
[06:24] <DaleG> snap, freenode is infinitely more populated than accessirc
[06:24] <Blissex> xerox: there is no reason to do so. Just delete all files there if you want.
[06:25] <LaserLine> http://pastebin.com/395495
[06:25] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: I know you are being bombarded, but I have added the lines to xorg.conf... is there any way to test if it worked?
[06:25] <LaserLine> blissex Kahurton http://pastebin.com/395495
[06:25] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: same as for LaserLine
[06:25] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: not quite the same.
[06:25] <troth> my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:26] <Khaaaaaan> ??
[06:26] <xerox> Blissex: that's what I did!
[06:26] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: run 'glxgear's or '/usr/lib/xscreensaver/atlantis' and see if the CPU time is like 100% or like 2%
[06:26] <LaserLine> blissex gnome system monitor reports 2 percent  aprrox
[06:26] <xerox> Blissex: now apt-get says: E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[06:26] <LaserLine> blissex glxgears CPU=100%
[06:26] <onur> dooglus, The guys post worked !
[06:27] <badei> wazuuup
[06:27] <badei> ?"
[06:27] <Blissex> xerox: recreate it... as in 'mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'
[06:27] <badei> :)
[06:27] <onur> dooglus, i mean i have changed the X
[06:27] <Khaaaaaan> My CPU seems stable
[06:27] <xerox> Blissex: done!  And it works.  /me hugs Blissex
[06:27] <Blissex> LaserLine: weird, because Atlantis is also OpenGL
[06:27] <Blissex> LaserLine: paste to the usual site the output of 'glxinfo'
[06:28] <LaserLine> blissex I know, that's the same issues I had...
[06:28] <sid77> anyone can help me out with wireless routing problem posted before? thanks :)
[06:28] <bluefoxicy> WHAT THE F--K
[06:28] <Khaaaaaan> When GLX gears is running I only max out the CPU when I open mozilla or IRC
[06:28] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: stable, but at which percentage use?
[06:28] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Whats your problem man?
[06:28] <zenlunatic> http://pastebin.com/395503 <-- anyone take a look at this and tell me why this .deb won't install?
[06:28] <Maikeru> Woo!
[06:28] <Maikeru> Stairway to heaven!
[06:28] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395507
[06:28] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  Synaptic acts like ass.
[06:29] <Khaaaaaan> With just glxgears it seems to run at around 28%
[06:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  on my laptop only.  My desktop has been fine right through breezy since 2 months in
[06:29] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Nice, that it the suck
[06:29] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: You should join the ubuntu-hardened team with us
[06:29] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Provided you are the same guy from LKML
[06:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: it looks like /var/lib/apt/lists/* just delete themselves
[06:29] <Blissex> LaserLine: what happens if you use 'fgl_glxgears'?
[06:30] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: thats not too bad. It _might_ have worked.
[06:30] <dooglus> onur: that's good
[06:30] <Khaaaaaan> I hope so :)
[06:30] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: paste the output of 'glxinfo' to the pastebin.com too
[06:30] <mwe> Blissex: I don't know if this is relevant to the fglrx discussion, but I had to ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 (after backing up the original /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from libgl1-mesa) to get 3daccel
[06:30] <Khaaaaaan> ok
[06:30] <dooglus> bluefoxicy: that's a known bug.  i reported it yesterday :)
[06:30] <zenlunatic> http://pastebin.com/395503 <-- anyone take a look at this and tell me why this .deb won't install?
[06:30] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I'm the same guy from LKML; I'm also the same guy who wants to build his business around his own PC product line and release his own version of Linux that will be fundamentally immune to viruses and spyware designed specifically for it
[06:30] <hippi> i can not write a folder to opt i need to do it but haven't the rights for it i m the only user of ubuntu
[06:30] <Karhuton> Blissex, i had a problem with the driver from ati.com, and wrote the fix into wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix
[06:30] <Karhuton> mwe
[06:30] <dooglus> bluefoxicy: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17808
[06:31] <Blissex> mwe: yes, we are trying to discover if we have to do this, but I don't know what LaserLine's situation is...
[06:31] <rak_> anyone tried using sysprof with ubuntu? know of any .debs for them?
[06:31] <Blissex> Karhuton: but LaserLine has got Hoary I think.
[06:31] <Khaaaaaan> pasted
[06:31] <Karhuton> Blissex, I didn't meant it for LLine
[06:31] <centrebullet> I've burned some Ubuntu packages to a CD, how do I go about installing them this way?
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  But I don't have too great a technical backing.  Most of the stuff I can do has been done, or I don't have time to do it.  I still don't understand SELinux policy files, hell I don't even know how SELinux lets you design policy (what rules can I make, what logic is available)
[06:31] <LaserLine> Karhuton the ls -l you requested is on: pastebin.com/395509
[06:31] <xerox> Thanks much, again.
[06:31] <xerox> Seeya!
[06:31] <Blissex> Karhuton: ahh, OK, it is useful anyhow.
[06:32] <LaserLine> blissex cpu is 100%
[06:32] <pullmyfin> i need some help
[06:32] <pullmyfin> installing ubuntu
[06:32] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: pasted, but you should say the URL
[06:32] <hippi> i can't access the opt folder because i m the wrong user but i m the only user
[06:32] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Ubuntu-hardened's baby is vsecurity. Take the best parts from grsec, openwall, and cap_over
[06:32] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I can stand up at the higher level and look and say, "The system is capable of X Y and Z according to these people and those documents; based on this I can say you can produce a system to N spec, which works because of this;" beyond that it gets hazy.
[06:32] <pullmyfin> i can get past the partiionaer
[06:32] <pullmyfin> partitioner
[06:32] <Khaaaaaan> blissex: URL?
[06:32] <centrebullet> I've burned some Ubuntu packages to a CD, how do I go about installing them this way?
[06:33] <pullmyfin> anyone?
[06:33] <dooglus> pullmyfin: that's a good thing isn't it?
[06:33] <Blissex> LaserLine: also paste to pastebin.com the output of 'ls -ld /usr/lib/libGL* /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL*'
[06:33] <pullmyfin> dooglus...eh?
[06:33] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Do you understand what suid is and linux capabilities?
[06:33] <pullmyfin> dooglus...some help please
[06:33] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: pasteBin.com should return you an URL pointing to the paste...
[06:33] <topyli> pullmyfin: yes, go on. what did you do, what does it say?
[06:33] <ompaul> zenlunatic, gtk2-engines-clearlooks <<-- have you isntalled that?
[06:33] <Silent1> i'm new to ubuntu, and i would like to get the dvd iso. It says install/live but i just would like to make 100% sure that this iso download is not just a live dvd but a install dvd aswell. Thanks
[06:33] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I want PaX' level of ASLR, also I want a CSLT/SBO per-page NX bit on IA-32 a la PaX PAGEEXEC, I want it handled by linux security modules,  I want grsecurity's ability to block access to /dev/*mem aside from video memory. . . :)
[06:33] <pullmyfin> well...
[06:33] <dooglus> pullmyfin: you're supposed to be able to get past the partitioner, and you can.  so what's wrong?
[06:33] <rybarnes> What is the code to install .deb files?
[06:33] <centrebullet> Can anyone help me real quick?
[06:34] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  Yeah, I know what SUID/SGID do and basic Linux capabilities (the concepts; don't have ALL caps memorized, only like 3)
[06:34] <pullmyfin> i have multiple partiions on my hard drive
[06:34] <dooglus> rybarnes: "sudo dpkg -i <package-file>"
[06:34] <pullmyfin> 2 are ntfs one is reiser and the other linux swap
[06:34] <centrebullet> rybarnes: dpkg -i
[06:34] <Blissex> rybarnes: 'dpkg --install'
[06:34] <xerox> Err, another thing :-D
[06:34] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: man capabilities fixes that :) You could help us write policies even if you don't understand C programming
[06:34] <pullmyfin> when i use the manual partitionin goption,
[06:34] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: My bad... http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3190
[06:34] <xerox> Do you know how to search for fonts packages which provides an 'helvetica' font?
[06:34] <ompaul> zenlunatic, the package you are looking at is trying to overwrite automake-1.7 and apt is saying *not me, no can do*
[06:34] <rybarnes> dooglus, thanks. I'm picking up on unix VERY slowly.
[06:34] <pullmyfin> i select the reiset and the swap configure them
[06:34] <centrebullet> Can anyone help me real quick?
[06:34] <pullmyfin> and then i come back to the screen where there is a list of all the hard drives and partitions
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I don't understand SELinux though :(
[06:35] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: trulux is targeting vsecurity for dapper
[06:35] <vbgunz> do the desktops have shortcut keys associated with them?
[06:35] <boabsta> centrebullet, not promising but wassup?
[06:35] <pullmyfin> then i select finish partitioning, it comes back to the same screen
[06:35] <centrebullet> I've burned some Ubuntu packages to a CD, how do I go about installing them this way?
[06:35] <dooglus> rybarnes: you almost never want to use 'dpkg -i' - you want to use synaptic or apt-get - these will download the .deb and install it in one step.  they also handle dependancies.  dkpg is only for .deb files which aren't available in official repositories
[06:35] <pullmyfin> i dont know what to do next
[06:35] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: This isn't SELinux, and it's not Mandatory Access Control
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  Vsecurity gives what kind of MAC policy?
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> ah
[06:35] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: paste the entire file called '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' you need to be 'root' to read it usually.
[06:35] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395514 at the end.
[06:35] <bonee> where does ubuntu install all the codecs for vid players
[06:35] <pullmyfin> topyli...
[06:35] <zenlunatic> ompaul, well i just make install it instead, but its a theme, how do i enable the theme now after make install? its not listed in gnome themes?
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I want SE-X :)
[06:35] <pullmyfin> dooglus...
[06:35] <pullmyfin> anything?
[06:35] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: ha! Take a look at: http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/vsecurity/
[06:36] <rybarnes> dooglus, I am install limewire, I don't think it will hurt me.
[06:36] <Blissex> LaserLine: that's it!
[06:36] <troth> my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:36] <vbgunz> tell vbgunz about w32codecs
[06:36] <dooglus> pullmyfin: it's been a very long time since I saw the partitioning interface, sorry.  I don't remember it.
[06:36] <pullmyfin> damn
[06:36] <pullmyfin> anyone else
[06:36] <boabsta> centrebullet, sry, i'm more of a gentoo bloke, i've just installed ubuntu :(
[06:36] <Maikeru> anyone have an /etc/fstab entry for Windows using Fat32 that they can show me
[06:36] <topyli> pullmyfin: the partitioner thinks something's wrong. have you set up the reiser as root? did you select it to be formatted?
[06:36] <Maikeru> ?
[06:36] <zenlunatic> rybarnes, use bittorrent
[06:36] <LaserLine> blissex what ?
[06:36] <centrebullet> boasta: I've burned some Ubuntu packages to a CD, how do I go about installing them this way?
[06:36] <dooglus> rybarnes: fair enough.  I never tried limewire since I read it included spyware.
[06:36] <pullmyfin> yea i did
[06:36] <Blissex> LaserLine: the library links are a bit of a mess...
[06:36] <vbgunz> do the desktops have shortcut keys associated with them? Does anyone know this?
[06:36] <pullmyfin> topyli...do i attach the bootable flag to the reiser partition?
[06:36] <LaserLine> blissex how come ?
[06:36] <rybarnes> zenlunatic, I want to download music. I use bittorrent for files.
[06:36] <LaserLine> blissex that wasn't supposed to happen...
[06:37] <topyli> pullmyfin: no need afaik, but i may be wrong
[06:37] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3191
[06:37] <pullmyfin> damn.
[06:37] <rybarnes> dooglus, I used limewire on windows for a long time, never had any problem with spyware.
[06:37] <Blissex> LaserLine: well, as Karhuton says, it is a bit of a mess what the ATI driver does.
[06:37] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Another thing that will be included with vsecurity is cap_over. Selectively enabling kernel caps for certain binaries. That would mean (after testing) 0 suid root binaries on the system
[06:37] <Blissex> LaserLine: wait a sec I check a couple of things.
[06:37] <boabsta> limewire has no spyware afaik
[06:37] <LaserLine> blissex ok...
[06:37] <pullmyfin> topyli...what do u think i should fo
[06:37] <pullmyfin> topyli...what do u think i should do
[06:37] <boabsta> (just dont get the latest version ;))
[06:37] <topyli> pullmyfin: yes, my root partition has the bootable flag
[06:37] <dooglus> rybarnes: what network(s) does it use?  is it just a gnutella client?
[06:37] <CaptObvious> limewire is spyware free
[06:38] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  nice.  FS level caps
[06:38] <pullmyfin> topyli...the thing is, im running windows xp as well
[06:38] <dooglus> CaptObvious: I hear that's true these days, but it hasn't always been
[06:38] <LaserLine> ACTION doesn't like them on Linux !
[06:38] <hawking> I want to change my keyboard to turkish how can i do that?
[06:38] <pullmyfin> and the bootable flag is on windows xp atm
[06:38] <rybarnes> dooglus, Not to sure. I installed it, but when I click the icon, nothing happens..I could tell you if it booted up.
[06:38] <ompaul> zenlunatic, I do not know the answer to your new question just the first one
[06:39] <topyli> pullmyfin: can't there be several bootable partitions? i genuinely don't know
[06:39] <D1> guys, which flash player do you guys install? flash-nonfree or flash-mozilla?
[06:39] <D1> and whats the difference?
[06:39] <pullmyfin> is there one here who can help me?
[06:39] <ompaul> zenlunatic, is it a theme for gnome?
[06:39] <zenlunatic> ompaul, sorry beer time thanks
[06:39] <centrebullet> I've burned some Ubuntu packages to a CD, how do I go about installing them this way?
[06:39] <kb3eqa> weee I'm going back to fedora
[06:39] <kb3eqa> I wiped the disk clean
[06:39] <kb3eqa> and ubuntu wont install
[06:40] <D1> why not
[06:40] <kb3eqa> it gets through the 'installing base system' step
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  don't fool yourself with the security of non-SUID though; those capabilities can be precious, and the binaries themselves still have to be strictly audited.  Imagine having the user switch capability so you can get root and give yourself new caps; or CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE, the FS is yours and you can SUID whatever you want  :)
[06:40] <dooglus> rybarnes: I like the download screen - it asks me whether I intend to use it to infringe copyright :)
[06:40] <Blissex> LaserLine: paste the output of: sudo dpkg -l '*mesa*' | egrep '^i'
[06:40] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: vsecurity includes auditing
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  that being said, reducing the risks and the impacts is ALWAYS good :)
[06:40] <topyli> kb3eqa: good
[06:40] <kb3eqa> and aborts saying "bootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) check target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details"
[06:40] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: having a look
[06:40] <pullmyfin> topyli...where can i find help
[06:40] <rybarnes> Is a 160 gig harddrive big enough for dualboot between Ubuntu and XP?
[06:41] <ompaul> kb3eqa, curious, 5.04 or 5.10 ?
[06:41] <Maikeru> lmfao
[06:41] <Maikeru> yes
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  What's dapper?
[06:41] <kb3eqa> rybarns, I do it with 60gb...
[06:41] <Maikeru> rybarnes: more than enough
[06:41] <Blissex> rybarnes: it is lots; each takes, with lots installed, around 8-12GiB.
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  And will the next release of Ubuntu use gcc 4.1 with propolice?
[06:41] <kb3eqa> 160GB would be quite sufficient for 4 operating systems
[06:41] <troth> ne1 know how to change my sound source? my webcam is listed as my output sound device?
[06:41] <Maikeru> though I have 260 gigs to my disposal
[06:41] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: The "development" version of ubuntu. dapper = breezy +1
[06:41] <rybarnes> Thank you.
[06:41] <topyli> pullmyfin: ask again in a while here. in the mean time, post a question to the forums, and maybe to the mailing list
[06:41] <Maikeru> kb3eqa, more than that
[06:41] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: paste the file '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' to the pastebin pls.
[06:41] <Maikeru> if you do a persistant home dir, etc.
[06:41] <pullmyfin> topyli...cool. thanks. ubuntu really does have good support
[06:42] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: libssp and propolice are being evaluated. yes
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:   Sweet.
[06:42] <dooglus> rybarnes: I tri-boot between ubuntu, mandriva and XP using a 40Gb drive.  so YES!
[06:42] <topyli> pullmyfin: right now, try setting the bootable flag, and see if it wants to remove it from hda1
[06:42] <ompaul> Maikeru, can you address the person who you are answering, they may not see the answer :) and then they ask again ...
[06:42] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395520 at the end
[06:42] <CaptObvious> any ideas why my bluetooth keyboard and mouse work at boot, in the CLI-only interface, but a couple of seconds after loading the GUI, they stop working?
[06:42] <D1> so which flash player do you guys use?
[06:42] <Blissex> troth: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 look for hiow to change the default card
[06:42] <pullmyfin> topyli...dont i risk my xp partion that way?
[06:42] <centrebullet> I've burned some Ubuntu packages to a CD, how do I go about installing them this way?
[06:43] <ompaul> D1,  flash is non free
[06:43] <Maikeru> ompaul: I did
[06:43] <Blissex> LaserLine: have you got Hoary or Breezy?
[06:43] <topyli> pullmyfin: no, the partitioner makes the changes only after you exit it. it hasn't written anything to disk yet
[06:43] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: If you have a few minutes, read this: http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardened-spec-20050503.pdf
[06:43] <rybarnes> dooglus, I am gonna go set that up soon. I'll have to format my hard drive, then reinstall everything though. Its a long story.
[06:43] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: All set.... http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3192
[06:43] <Maikeru> I said: "rybarnes: more than enough"
[06:43] <LaserLine> blissex Breezy - clean install today from CD.
[06:43] <thingy> centrebullet, if you want to install them all, you just do a "dpkg -I /mnt/cdrom/blah/*.dev"
[06:43] <Blissex> LaserLine: why then there was some mention of Hoary somewhere? Uhm.
[06:43] <ompaul> D1,  you can use this one : flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-mozilla
[06:43] <ompaul> D1,  sorry two
[06:44] <Merliine> Im installing Ubuntu now, but grapich version dont start, what is the problem? my mouse is ok
[06:44] <topyli> pullmyfin: so, you will have a chance to revert your choice
[06:44] <D1> yeah, but which one and what is the difference?
[06:44] <Blissex> LaserLine: perhaps I am confudsing your with Khaaaaaan
[06:44] <hawking> how can i watch avi,mpeg files?
[06:44] <hawking> where can i get the codecs?
[06:44] <Khaaaaaan> :)
[06:44] <rybarnes> Maikeru, I know, I have a restore disk for XP that dosn't allow dual boot, so I have to install that first, then install Ubuntu, so I have to format the HD first.
[06:44] <hawking> ubotu tell hawking about codecs
[06:44] <centrebullet> thingy: dpkg only works with deb files as far as I know and these are Ubuntu packages
[06:44] <ompaul> !tell hawking about restricted
[06:44] <topyli> D1: that's the player and the mozilla plugin
[06:44] <topyli> you want both
[06:44] <rybarnes> Maikeru, I have used Ubuntu for about 3 days, not to much on it.
[06:44] <thingy> centrebullet, or else if you meant for the installed to NOT download the packages again and use the ones on your cd, then you can copy the packages to the /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:44] <D1> hmmm
[06:45] <boxman> anyone know of any mencoder/mplayer apt sources for ubuntu?
[06:45] <thejasco> ciao a tutti
[06:45] <LaserLine> blissex ok, don't want to do a mistake again :-)
[06:45] <thingy> centrebullet, ubuntu is based on debian and so dpkg should work on *.deb files
[06:45] <defendguin> im depressed totem cant play a dvd out of the box
[06:46] <ompaul> D1,in a terminal  >> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-mozilla << ho0wever yo uneed multiverse enabled
[06:46] <centrebullet> thingy: they're not .deb they're tgz Ubuntu packages
[06:46] <mustard5> defendguin, there are licence restrictions which don't allow that
[06:46] <topyli> defendguin: yeah, you should contact your lawmakers
[06:46] <thingy> centrebullet, ok priv. msg me the names of a couple of those pacakges to let me get an idea of what you are trying to do
[06:46] <boxman> topyli, it would be legal here though..
[06:46] <ompaul> defendguin, tell your lawmakers, and request that the distributers user .ogg
[06:46] <vbgunz> how do you tile your desktop windows?
[06:46] <defendguin> mustard5, what packages are needed to allow totem to do this??  i installed libdvdcss
[06:47] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: uhm, it looks like the configuration is right, but DRI/DRM does not start. I think that the reason is that either you haven't loaded the DRi/DRM kernel modules, or the Mobility 9000 is not supported by the driver. Mobility chipsets are a bit different fro 3D accel.
[06:47] <hawking> how can i disable debian-marillat repository?
[06:47] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: Well that stinks...
[06:47] <topyli> boxman: yep, here too. they're just removing this right from us at the end of this year
[06:47] <boxman> damn :(
[06:47] <defendguin> ompaul, thats a dumb suggestion lawmakers have no say over what format a company must distribute DVDs in
[06:47] <mustard5> !tell defendguin about restrictedformats
[06:47] <cusco> defendguin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:47] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: to double check, try 'lsmod | egrep "radeon|agp"' and paste here the result.
[06:48] <Merliine> Where i can get drivers to my 3d-card? linux dont start graphic version when installing. I have ATI-128 Pro/Ultra
[06:48] <ompaul> defendguin, one can regulate the other
[06:48] <defendguin> ompaul, not in this area
[06:48] <aftertaf> boing :)
[06:48] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: but do that, that there are good news...
[06:48] <mustard5> hawking, put a # in front of it in your sources.list
[06:48] <CaptObvious> how do I boot ubuntu without loading the gui?
[06:49] <topyli> boxman: might still be legal in your country next year. so we'll have ftp servers where we can hold this highly dangerous terrorist code
[06:49] <ompaul> defendguin, well its a corrupt system that allows people build effective monopolies even with the lenman act
[06:49] <murr> !mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: remove kdm/gdm from init.d startup
[06:49] <LaserLine> blissex so what should I do to fix it ?
[06:49] <boxman> anyone know of a apt source with mencoder/mplayer and so on?
[06:49] <Blissex> LaserLine: just to be sure, so 'apt-get reinstall  libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri'
[06:49] <CaptObvious> I can't boot atm cos the GUI is screwed aftertaf
[06:49] <CaptObvious> I need to boot to CLI only once
[06:49] <aftertaf> boxman: universe
[06:49] <Blissex> LaserLine: when that is done, Karhuton's fix probably is the right thing to do.
[06:50] <boxman> aftertaf, i have those apt sources uncommented afaik
[06:50] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: tried recovery mode? (i know, stupid question)
[06:50] <mustard5> boxman, I was just reading a mplayer how to on the ubuntu forum
[06:50] <boxman> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[06:50] <boxman> deb-src http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[06:50] <CaptObvious> nope, I haven't, how'd I go about doing that?
[06:50] <dooglus> the repositories seem to be slower today than they were on thursday!
[06:50] <mustard5> try there
[06:50] <topyli> boxman: on breezy, they're in multiverse
[06:50] <Blissex> LaserLine: also, 'apt-get --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx' to be doubly sure.
[06:50] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3193 *crosses fingers*
[06:50] <aftertaf> boxman: type sudo apt-cache search mplayer and choose one according to procesor achitecture
[06:50] <aftertaf> !info mplayer
[06:51] <Karhuton> Blissex, it's only for Breezy
[06:51] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: that paste is good.
[06:51] <aftertaf> !info mplayer-386
[06:51] <Karhuton> Blissex, and ati.com's xorg driver
[06:51] <CaptObvious> how do I boot into recovery mode?
[06:51] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[06:51] <occy> hmm
[06:51] <LaserLine> blissex after the mesa reintsalltion /
[06:51] <defendguin> ompaul, i dont see any monopoly on the number of companies that can make DVD players or on companies that make DVDs
[06:51] <mustard5> !tell boxman mplayer
[06:51] <topyli> boxman: if you're on hoary, it's in backports-extras
[06:51] <Karhuton> Blissex, I'd assume the packaged version of fglrx in Ubuntu's repositories would have the same fixes done
[06:51] <mustard5> !tell boxman about mplayer
[06:51] <aftertaf> boxman: multiverse.... :) add it to each line here you have 'universe'
[06:51] <Blissex> LaserLine:  xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:51] <net_benjo> does anybody have an idea how I can turn on my wireless card?
[06:51] <boxman> tomas@ubuntubox:~/azureus$ apt-cache search mplayer
[06:51] <boxman> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[06:51] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: excellent...
[06:51] <badei> guys
[06:51] <Blissex> LaserLine: 'apt-get --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx' too
[06:52] <Karhuton> Blissex, I created my own deb packages with the ATI installer
[06:52] <defendguin> ompaul, what monopolies are you talking about?
[06:52] <badei> how do i get and install Firestarter??????????????s
[06:52] <badei> someone
[06:52] <badei> told me
[06:52] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: axctually it looks like DRI/DRM did initialize, but
[06:52] <badei> about this
[06:52] <SbCl3> which packages do i need to play mp3?
[06:52] <badei> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:52] <ompaul> defendguin, and you see no monopoly in the way they keep the dccss code to themselves - cartel
[06:52] <aftertaf> badei: on one line pls ;)
[06:52] <LaserLine> blissex yeah, but after the messa reinstallation ?
[06:52] <mustard5> !tell net_benjo about wireless
[06:52] <badei> and this is the result
[06:52] <Blissex> Karhuton: ah yes, it turns out LaserLine has Breezy, but installed from the repo.
[06:52] <Karhuton> Blissex, did you read what I wrote in the wiki?
[06:52] <vbgunz> badei: I think firestarter is already on Ubuntu... just no GUI for it *not* sure
[06:52] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: I hate buts...
[06:52] <CaptObvious> guys, really, how do I boot into recovery mode?
[06:52] <wezzer> !tell SbCl3 mp3
[06:52] <topyli> badei: it's in universe
[06:52] <ompaul> defendguin, discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want :)
[06:52] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: grub should give yo the coice at startup
[06:52] <LaserLine> blissex that is what i said from the beginning :-)
[06:52] <badei> Reading package lists... Done
[06:52] <badei> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:52] <badei> E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[06:52] <CaptObvious> I use yaboot
[06:52] <wezzer> !mp3
[06:53] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:53] <defendguin> ompaul, i see hundreds of companies making dvd players
[06:53] <PatrikJohansson> hey, i installed breezy on my x64 and after instalation at first bootup i get this error message: "Fatal error: screen not found" etc, and X doesnt start... Anyone know whats wrong??
[06:53] <badei> seee???????????
[06:53] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: cant you press CTL+ALT+F1 an          get to console?
[06:53] <bonee> which package do i need to play vcd
[06:53] <Karhuton> Blissex, you can check with ls -l if the libGL files are correctly symlinked (like I wrote in the wiki)
[06:53] <troth> Blissex: as far as i can tell that site just tells how to check not changre
[06:53] <mustard5> !tell badei about sources
[06:53] <ompaul> defendguin, and all paying a patent holder .....
[06:53] <CaptObvious> aftertaf - no, it's a keyboard issue
[06:53] <net_benjo> mustard5 tell me what?
[06:53] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: you seem to have Composite and RENDER enabled for transparency etc. I dont know specifically for the ATI drivers, but I would suggest disabling Composite at least.
[06:53] <ompaul> defendguin, for a bogus security a 15 year old cracked
[06:53] <mustard5> badei, check your sources.list against the links to standard sources.list that ubotu sent you
[06:53] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: basically disabling transparency, I think it is incompatible with 3D accel.
[06:54] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: in what way is it boll0x3d ?
[06:54] <CaptObvious> it doesn't work?
[06:54] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: How do I do that? What does it do?
[06:54] <topyli> ompaul: jon was older than that! :)
[06:54] <LaserLine> blissex done reinstalling
[06:54] <CaptObvious> as in when the GUI loads, my keyboard and mouse die
[06:54] <ompaul> topyli,  ... hehe
[06:54] <vbgunz> how do you tile windows on the desktop?
[06:54] <badei> mustart5 , i'm a beginer
[06:54] <vbgunz> is this not used on Ubuntu or Linux?
[06:54] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: does grub give you a menu on boot, to choose which kernel and/or windows?
[06:54] <Blissex> LaserLine: paste again the output of 'ls -ld /usr/lib/libGL* /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL*'
[06:54] <CaptObvious> if you'd listen to me
[06:54] <CaptObvious> I said
[06:55] <CaptObvious> I use yaboot
[06:55] <vbgunz> how do you tile or cascade, etc windows on the desktop?
[06:55] <topyli> ompaul: i think he was in college already ;)
[06:55] <badei> I want to share my dial-up connection, how the hack i'm going to do that on ubuntu linux?
[06:55] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: does yaboot give you a choice? i gather not :/
[06:55] <CaptObvious> and the only kernel I can pick is "Linux"
[06:55] <badei> in windows is very easy
[06:55] <aftertaf> sorry CaptObvious i missed that bit ;)
[06:55] <Ayide1> Alright I think im in need of some help here. On a fresh install of kubuntu 5.10 what do I need extra (thats not already included) to be able to compile a driver into the kernel?
[06:55] <vbgunz> badei: In Linux is very easy...
[06:55] <CaptObvious> can I pass an option to the kernel to boot in recovery or CLI only?
[06:55] <CaptObvious> or hold down a key or something
[06:55] <PatrikJohansson> When i start Breezy for the first time it says, "Screen not found" and X doesnt start... Whats wrong???
[06:55] <topyli> badei: install and run firestarter, answer a couple of questions
[06:56] <badei> vbgunz how???
[06:56] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: boot from live cd, and remove gdm/kdm from all the /etc/rcN.d directories.... if you can
[06:56] <badei> how i'm installing firestarter?
[06:56] <topyli> badei: apt-get it
[06:56] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: with yaboot, i dont know.
[06:56] <boxman> thanks people.. adding multiverse solved it
[06:56] <vbgunz> basei: what you mean is for *you* it is easy on Windows... I personally don't know how to share dialup on either or a mac :P
[06:56] <Ayide1> Can anyone help?
[06:56] <deFrysk> !ask
[06:56] <realist> is there a way to turn of this flashing taskbar thing?
[06:56] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, that happens quite a bit, someone should know that one
[06:56] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395536 at the bottem
[06:56] <Ayide1>  On a fresh install of kubuntu 5.10 what do I need extra (thats not already included) to be able to compile a driver into the kernel?
[06:56] <CaptObvious> aftertaf - the bootloader makes no difference to kernel options
[06:56] <badei> topyli sudo apt-get install firestarter this?
[06:57] <dreameen> where can i download win32codecs?
[06:57] <topyli> badei: yes. it's in universe so you need to have that enabled
[06:57] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: any idea??
[06:57] <Ayide1> I have the kernel sources
[06:57] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: yeah but i didnt know that :P
[06:57] <deFrysk> Ayide1, there is a #kubuntu chnnel
[06:57] <mustard5> !tell PatrikJohansson about xorg
[06:57] <badei> topyli if i type that look what it says : Reading package lists... Done
[06:57] <badei> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:57] <badei> E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[06:57] <aftertaf> you're on powerPC CaptObvious ?
[06:57] <murr> !totem
[06:57] <ubotu> murr: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:57] <vbgunz> !tell vbgunz about w32codecs
[06:57] <Ayide1> I know but ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except kde
[06:57] <aftertaf> !info totem
[06:57] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, check the message ubotu sent you
[06:57] <badei> toplyli pls help me
[06:57] <ubotu> totem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[06:58] <topyli> badei: since you're a windows refugee, you might prefer using synaptic. there you can add the universe repository too
[06:58] <dooglus> firestarter is in universe badei
[06:58] <dreameen> where can i download win32codecs?
[06:58] <topyli> badei: system -> admin -> synaptic
[06:58] <dooglus> !w32codes
[06:58] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, dooglus
[06:58] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[06:58] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[06:58] <CaptObvious> aftertaf - yes
[06:58] <CaptObvious> ppc64
[06:58] <mustard5> ubotu: tell dreamen about w32deb
[06:58] <dreameen> cheers
[06:58] <vbgunz> !tell dreameen about w32codecs
[06:58] <badei> toplyli and then?
[06:59] <dreameen> k k i got it:)
[06:59] <mustard5> choices on that question dreameen  :)
[06:59] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: thx
[06:59] <troth> my webcam is being read as my default output sound rather than my soundcard, can someone help me change please
[06:59] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: Is transparancy just a module in xorg.conf? Or is it more complicated?
[06:59] <JDigital> Does anyone know what causes it when I use mplayer and quit it and the screen goes blue the next time I use mplayer?
[06:59] <pullmyfin> i need some help installing ubuntu 5.10. i cant get past the paritioning screen
[06:59] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: im gonna try now BRB
[06:59] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, k
[06:59] <alfmatos> hello
[06:59] <badei> toplyli after i run synaptic what i shal do???????????????/
[06:59] <CaptObvious> I think I got it, booted recovery from the CD
[07:00] <alfmatos> i have a patched ubuntu package, and a new package, where do i submit them to someone ?
[07:00] <thingy> ubotu: tell thingy about w32deb
[07:00] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: ok. googled for help on yaboot, found none ....
[07:00] <CaptObvious> yaboot wasn't the issue
[07:01] <CaptObvious> kernel options were
[07:01] <badei> HOW I INSTALL FIRESTARTER?????????????????????
[07:01] <LaserLine> blissex is it good now ?
[07:01] <CaptObvious> and they're independant of bootloaders
[07:01] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: if you can disable gdm (gnome) or kdm(kde) via recovery cd, do so.
[07:01] <ompaul> badei, without caps lock
[07:01] <ompaul> badei, are you running lots of services onthe machine?
[07:01] <mustard5> badei, sudo apt-get install firestarter   did you check your sources are all enabled in synaptic?
[07:01] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: ok, but i was loking fo rhow to pass options when booting.....
[07:01] <jessid> hello guys! I want to ask you something. Some of you know how can I set permanently environment variables? I want to configure j2sdk1.5 and I already installed it, but ubuntu is still using j2sdk1.4
[07:01] <thingy> gaaah! stupid bot, how do I tell it to tell me about w32deb...keeps saying "NO SPEAKE ENLISH!" smart ass bot! Darn you!
[07:01] <aftertaf> badei: do you have synaptic installed?
[07:02] <mustard5> !tell thingy about w32debs
[07:02] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: it is functionality inside X. It is based on the Composite extension, if disabled, no transparency.
[07:02] <aftertaf> !w32codecs
[07:02] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[07:02] <ompaul> !tell thingy about w32codecs
[07:02] <mustard5> thingy, look for a private message from ubotu
[07:02] <CaptObvious> aftertaf - I know how
[07:02] <CaptObvious> just didn't know which
[07:02] <badei> AFTERTAF MAN
[07:02] <Blissex> LaserLine: having a look...
[07:02] <aftertaf> CaptObvious: hehe ok.
[07:02] <Eggo> hello
[07:02] <thingy> aah thanks
[07:02] <aftertaf> badei: yes or no.
[07:02] <Eggo> I am in the needing of the helps
[07:02] <badei> aftertaf i think yes
[07:02] <ompaul> badei, caps off please
[07:02] <aftertaf> badei: open a console and type 'synaptic'
[07:02] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: hmm... so how do I do that?
[07:02] <Eggo> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:02] <Eggo> how to fix?
[07:03] <aftertaf> Eggo: have you installed build-essential?
[07:03] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' there should be an option for that.
[07:03] <badei> aftertaf it sayis an error
[07:03] <aftertaf> Eggo: dont know if it helps.
[07:03] <Eggo> i will try
[07:03] <badei> aftertaf it sayis that i must run that program with root user
[07:03] <aftertaf> badei: type sudo aynaptic.
[07:03] <aftertaf> *s
[07:03] <Blissex> LaserLine: type now 'ldconfig -v | egrep libGL' and paste the output to pastebin.com
[07:03] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: but it is probablyu better if you are for these details in the #Xorg channel
[07:04] <spencerk> my soundcard worked on install, but now theres nothing, can anyone point a linux noob to a device manager or something?
[07:04] <Eggo> i heart debian
[07:04] <Khaaaaaan> okay
[07:04] <Khaaaaaan> Good idea...
[07:04] <badei> aftertaf ok
[07:04] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: because there are people there that actually develope that driver.
[07:04] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: and I dont have exactly the same card you have.
[07:04] <mustard5> thanks ompaul, didn't notice my typo on w32debs
[07:04] <Khaaaaaan> Blissex: ok great, thanks for your help though :)
[07:04] <badei> aftertaf synaptic pachage manager??????????????
[07:04] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: so I am just guessing.
[07:04] <ompaul> mustard5, :)
[07:05] <pullmyfin> anyone?
[07:05] <aftertaf> yes badei: when it runs.... go to categories/repositories
[07:05] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: what you ened to tell in #Xorg is that you have DRi/DRM enabled, it seems to be OK, but still some issue.
[07:05] <anindya> hello, i just installed ubuntu but having some problems with apt-get
[07:05] <Blissex> Khaaaaaan: and give them the URL to the paste for the log.
[07:05] <Eggo> installing build-essential worked, thanks
[07:05] <LaserLine> blissex nothing happens...
[07:05] <anindya> i have modified sources.list and try a apt-get update
[07:05] <Karhuton> Blissex, what problem does Khaan have?
[07:05] <badei> aftertaf there is not a gategorie named repositories
[07:05] <aftertaf> anindya: what are your pbs?
[07:05] <anindya> it stall there with connection timeout
[07:05] <badei> aftertaf :(
[07:05] <LaserLine> blissex ohh, ok it worked
[07:05] <aftertaf> badei: depots?
[07:06] <badei> aftertaf nop
[07:06] <D0C_> anyone have good luck with ubuntu 64bit and playing wmv files in firefox ?
[07:06] <Blissex> LaserLine: OK, paste the entire output of 'ldconfig -v' then
[07:06] <pullmyfin> can anyone here help me install ubuntu? i cant get past the partitioning screen
[07:06] <anindya> any pointers please
[07:06] <aftertaf> badei: File | Edit | Package | then what do you have?
[07:06] <LaserLine> blissex ohh, ok it worked
[07:06] <mustard5> D0C_, not from what I have read on the forums
[07:06] <LaserLine> blissex ohh with the egrep
[07:06] <badei> aftertaf settings and help
[07:07] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395549
[07:07] <aftertaf> badei: settings. then 1st option in that menu.
[07:07] <troth> my webcam is being read as my default output sound rather than my soundcard, can someone help me change please
[07:07] <D0C_> i tried to compile mplayer from source... but it has gcc issues
[07:07] <aftertaf> badei: nope... 2nd option.
[07:07] <mustard5> troth unplug the web cam? :P
[07:07] <aftertaf> D0C_: why not use package?
[07:07] <mustard5> not very elegant I know :D
[07:07] <D0C_> that didnt work, there isnt one for 64
[07:07] <D0C_> aftertaf,
[07:07] <N45800> does anyone know about sound card compatibility with ubutnu?
[07:07] <badei> aftertaf and after?
[07:08] <Blissex> LaserLine: so is as 'root' and do paste the whole let, 'sudo ldconfig -v'
[07:08] <anindya> I can reach say http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu thru my browser
[07:08] <anindya> but when i do apt-get update it simply fails to connect
[07:08] <Khaaaaaan> Damn the xorg and ati channels are dead...
[07:08] <aftertaf> badei: have you opened the depot or repository window?
[07:08] <Blissex> LaserLine: also paste here the output of '/etc/ld.so.conf'
[07:08] <badei> aftertaf i oppened repositories
[07:08] <mustard5> anindya, have you enabled all your sources?
[07:09] <Blissex> LaserLine: also paste here the output of 'ls -ld /etc/ld.so.conf'
[07:09] <anindya> yes
[07:09] <mustard5> anindya, in synaptic?
[07:09] <anindya> nope, how do i do that?
[07:09] <aftertaf> badei: ok. activate all the repositories.
[07:09] <anindya> i tried initially with synaptic gui
[07:09] <mustard5> anindya, open a terminal
[07:09] <anindya> okay
[07:09] <badei> aftertaf man
[07:09] <D0C_> ill keep workin at it, if I get it ill let you guys know
[07:10] <badei> aftertaf there it only sayis big large writing
[07:10] <mustard5> anindya, you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:10] <Eggo> how to install gtk?  sudo apt-get install ??????
[07:10] <anindya> kubuntu
[07:10] <aftertaf> badei: then add "universe" and "multiverse" to the lines that have "main" and/or restricted
[07:10] <mustard5> doh
[07:10] <mustard5> ok...lets try anyway
[07:10] <LaserLine> blissex no such file or directory
[07:10] <LaserLine> on the second one...
[07:10] <badei> aftertaf that sayis like this : cd ubuntu 5,10 breeze badger
[07:10] <mustard5> anindya, whats your default text editer (gui)?
[07:10] <mustard5> kate?
[07:10] <anindya> yeah
[07:11] <badei> aftertaf it a large written
[07:11] <aftertaf> badei: you have others, that arent enabled.... enable them.
[07:11] <badei> aftertaf maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[07:11] <mustard5> anindya, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <DJ-Power> Hi there
[07:11] <Eggo> how to install gtk?  sudo apt-get install ??????
[07:11] <badei> aftertaf listen to me
[07:11] <anindya> yes
[07:11] <badei> aftertaf i must enable where??
[07:11] <mustard5> that is a list of all your sources
[07:11] <badei> aftertaf i must press setings????
[07:11] <mustard5> is there any lines with multiverse on the end?
[07:11] <LaserLine> blissex http://pastebin.com/395552
[07:11] <anindya> mastard5 : yes
[07:11] <aftertaf> tick the tickbox that isnt ticked badei
[07:11] <DJ-Power> anyone here know how to get wine working?
[07:11] <aftertaf> tickboxes*
[07:12] <anindya> yes
[07:12] <badei> aftertaf in setting pannel or what?
[07:12] <mustard5> aninya I'm going to get ubotu to send you a message containing a link to a standard sources list...so you can compare yours
[07:12] <aftertaf> badei: settings>repositories        this will open the repositories window
[07:12] <mustard5> !tell anindya about sources
[07:12] <anindya> sure
[07:12] <pullmyfin> can anyone here help me install ubuntu? i cant get past the partitioning screen
[07:12] <mustard5> anindya, check out the one for your version
[07:13] <mustard5> at the relevant pastebin
[07:13] <rodietze> j ubuntu-br
[07:13] <abiectus> How do I compile drivers for my network card? Running latest Ubuntu and using a D-Link DFE-530TX lan card.
[07:13] <anindya> okk thanks mastard5
[07:13] <rodietze> ops sorry
[07:13] <Blissex> LaserLine: jhaving a look.
[07:13] <mustard5> if anything looks like it is missing on yours....then you can simply copy and paste that entire standard list in and the try sudo apt-get update again
[07:13] <DJ-Power> anyone here know how to get wine working?
[07:14] <badei>  aftertaf yes
[07:14] <badei> aftertaf and after i choosed settings
[07:14] <freemanen> how do i start ubuntu in text mode
[07:14] <anindya> yeah sure i am trying that
[07:14] <aftertaf> !synaptic
[07:14] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:14] <badei> aftertaf and after i ticked all that wa unticked and after that a download proces pop-ed up
[07:15] <CaptObvious> does apt-get have the vanilla sources?
[07:15] <aftertaf> badei: ok. after you need to add the multiverse and universe repositories, and validate it all, and hit the update button back on the main window of synaptic
[07:15] <erisco> what is the apt-get install for shockwave player?
[07:15] <erisco> i need to update it
[07:15] <Blissex> LaserLine: seems OK too.
[07:16] <Blissex> LaserLine: have you tried 'fgl_glxgears' to see what it says?
[07:16] <mustard5> anindya, I notice the sources.list at that link does not include your kubuntu CD packages...you can add the CD again by going into synaptic and choosing 'Add CD' in the menus
[07:16] <erisco> is there an apt-get install for shockwave player?
[07:16] <P229> DJ-Power: what's the problem you're having?
[07:16] <Blissex> LaserLine: The X11 server is configured right, as the output of 'fglrxinfo' shows.
[07:16] <erisco> somehow i got it... now i need to update it...
[07:17] <chapeaurouge> you guys have beagle working okay on Breezy?
[07:17] <aftertaf> erisco: shockwave dont exist for linux afaik, only flash
[07:17] <Blissex> LaserLine: so it may be if there a prioblem, a library problem, but the libraries seem OK.
[07:17] <pullmyfin> i really need some help
[07:17] <aftertaf> erisco: you have it. i am wrong then .
[07:17] <jims> I've got a puzzle with Rhythmbox: whenever I try to open any of the 4400 MP3 files I have, it says "The file is not an audio stream," but I've played them many times before on other systems?  Any ideas?
[07:17] <Eggo> truly stuck on gtk install, appreciate guidance
[07:17] <DJ-Power> p229 I just cant seem to get it to work at all
[07:17] <mustard5> pullmyfin, whats your problem?
[07:17] <Blissex> jims: look at the Wiki page on restricted formats.
[07:17] <LaserLine> blissex glxgears is slow, and 100%
[07:17] <PatrikJohansson> #ubuntu
[07:17] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, all good?
[07:17] <carpediem> jims: you have to install mp3 support in Ubuntu...its not on by default
[07:17] <aftertaf> jims: you installed mp3 packages and played them with anything else?
[07:18] <aftertaf> !mp3
[07:18] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:18] <jims> Thanks - sounds like I need to install the packages.
[07:18] <pullmyfin> mustard5...well, i cant seem to install ubuntu. i have the partition set up from a previous Xandros installation.
[07:18] <LaserLine> blissex fgl_glxgears is 100% too. and 500fps
[07:18] <jessid> D0C_ why dont you play it with xine? i imagine that it is posible!
[07:18] <jims> I'll take a look now.
[07:18] <DJ-Power> The closest I got was getting winamp to run but I couldnt see any of the settings at all
[07:18] <Blissex> LaserLine: that is a bit slow.
[07:18] <Ephe-Linux> How can I get Totem to support mp3?
[07:18] <LaserLine> blissex It is and my processor is 100% too
[07:18] <onur> Question: I have freshly installed breezy from a CD i burned. Now i realize that even the ISO image checksum is ok, when i burn the CD with K3B (in Suse) i can't get a valid Check sum. Currently my installation is working except Open office (the deb file defected in the CD) Where else i could re install Open Office ?
[07:18] <P229> DJ-Power: try running a very basic windows program
[07:18] <pullmyfin> mustard5...the ubuntu installation doesnt seem to accept the partition.
[07:18] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: yeah,thx i just had to change my drivers from ati to vesa (worked)
[07:18] <jessid> some idea of how can i set environment variables????
[07:18] <pullmyfin> mustard5...im trying to install it as dual boot with windows xp
[07:18] <P229> DJ-Power: winamp might be too much for wine to handle
[07:18] <mustard5> pullmyfin, you might have to be more specific about the error
[07:18] <erisco> what is the apt-get install for flash?
[07:19] <riddlebox>  does anyone know how I would turn the radio state in my wireless card from 1 to 0?
[07:19] <mustard5> what error occurs that halts the install
[07:19] <aftertaf> !flash
[07:19] <ubotu> somebody said flash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:19] <badei> aftertaf gooood
[07:19] <badei> aftertaf i have dial up connection 56 kbps(very low rate of traffic) how the hack i download all these updates???
[07:19] <carpediem> Ephe-Linux: same thing, you have to install mp3 libs. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:19] <abiectus> My manual for my lan card (D-Link DFE-530TX) says I need to compile the driverfiles into a rhinefet.0 file. How do I do that? (I'm a big time noob on linux)
[07:19] <aftertaf> badei: i cant help you with that dude.
[07:19] <jessid> I mean, permanently....I dont want to write export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:etcetera....
[07:19] <Blissex> LaserLine: Your setup seems virtually completely OK, and 'atlantis' runw with low CPU, so things seem good, so I don't know what's the problem with 'glxgears'.
[07:19] <DJ-Power> p229 hmm well if thats the case then I better not continue it really
[07:19] <pullmyfin> mustard5...well, on the partitioning screen, i select the reiset partition, and then the swap. i set them up. when i select finish partitioning, it comes back tot same screen
[07:19] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, yep...it happened to tons of ppl on the upgrade :)
[07:19] <onur> Qestion: How can i burn an ISO to a CD in ubuntu ?
[07:19] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, that was an easy one ;)
[07:20] <mjr> onur, right-click in nautilus, choose to burn it
[07:20] <DJ-Power> p229 I want to eventually use a program called Ots DJ and thats way more complex than winamp
[07:20] <LaserLine> blissex ok....... is there a benchmark software that can tell me that ? instead of fglgear ?
[07:20] <mustard5> pullmyfin, I think I got tricked by that too.....you might find you can scroll down the screen further
[07:20] <Eggo> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
[07:20] <Eggo> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[07:20] <Eggo> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[07:20] <Eggo> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[07:20] <Eggo> configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
[07:20] <Eggo> help?
[07:20] <mustard5> and find a finish option
[07:20] <pullmyfin> mustard5...tried that
[07:20] <Blissex> LaserLine: at this point the only thing that comes to my mind is that perhaps that you have transparency effects enabled, and with many drivers those disabvle acceleration.
[07:20] <geoko> can anybody help me with my dvb-s card?
[07:20] <onur> mjr, Are you sure it burns it with decomposing the image instead of copying the ISO file to CD ?
[07:21] <LaserLine> blissex how can i disavle that ?
[07:21] <Stricklin> Apparently, there is no way to make a partition FAT32 and have it show up mounted as a separate volume. Either that, or after 12 hours and 7 re-installs, I have yet to figure it out.
[07:21] <pullmyfin> mustard5...what about the boot flag? do i change it from the xp ntfs partition to the reiser?
[07:21] <LaserLine> blissex disable
[07:21] <Blissex> LaserLine: if you have a fast inernet line download Enemy Territory (it is around 200MB) with BitTorrent or whatever.
[07:21] <aftertaf> Stricklin: ???    what is the pb?
[07:21] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: hehe not for me, i went pale when i got the error msg :D
[07:21] <mustard5> pullmyfin, now your heading out of my level of knowledge :)
[07:21] <aftertaf> !tell Stricklin about mount
[07:21] <Eggo> nobody love me:'(
[07:21] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I would too ;)
[07:21] <ironmc> I installed an astronomy program with Synaptic but I can't find it,   have looked in /usr/bin, /usr/share, /local/bin   any ideas?
[07:21] <aftertaf> Eggo: what you trying to do?
[07:21] <LaserLine> blissex and how the installation goes ?
[07:22] <aftertaf> Eggo: with gtk?
[07:22] <N45800> ironmc: open /var/cache/apt/
[07:22] <Blissex> LaserLine: that sould be an option in the graphical setup of GNOME, but I don't use GNOME. Ask in #GNOME. However if you have transaprency enabled it should be very obvious on your desktop.
[07:22] <Eggo> install it
[07:22] <Eggo> or get it to work
[07:22] <salvo> ciao
[07:22] <aftertaf> ironmc: rightclick the package in synaptic, itll tell you where its files are
[07:22] <Eggo> configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
[07:22] <N45800> and open the deb, then open the data file
[07:22] <Eggo> stop it from sayin that
[07:22] <mustard5> find a more specific description of your problem and keep pluggin' for an answer pullmyfin
[07:22] <Blissex> LaserLine: installation is simple: download the file, and run it with 'sh', and tell it to install to '/usr/local/et'.
[07:22] <aftertaf> Eggo: apt-cache search gtk
[07:22] <ironmc> thanks everyone
[07:22] <P229> DJ-Power: have you tried that other program?
[07:22] <Eggo> i did, a lot of stuff comes up
[07:22] <DJ-Power> Does anyone know why when I get asked for the password in terminal it wont allow me to type anything?
[07:22] <salvo> AIUTOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:22] <LaserLine> blissex ok, what version to d/l ?
[07:22] <aftertaf> Eggo: apt-cache search gtk | more
[07:23] <P229> DJ-Power: there's a good chance, if it won't run in win95/98, that the program won't run with wine
[07:23] <mustard5> pullmyfin, what you are describing to me sounds exactly like a situation I thought I was in, but then discovered I was simply misunderstanding the choices
[07:23] <pullmyfin> mustard5...u know the boot flag that comes during partitioning? now its on the windows xp ntfs partition.
[07:23] <Stricklin> If I manually give it a mount point of /docs, or /mnt/docs I get the error "The attempt to mount a file system with a type vfat in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partition #8(sda8) at /mnt/docs failed."
[07:23] <aftertaf> Eggo: failing that, crank up synaptic, search gtk and install everything tat looks like what you want.
[07:23] <Chadza> DJ-Power, It does, it just doesn't echo the pw to the screen.
[07:23] <DJ-Power> p229 yes I did and it gets part way through the install and then fails
[07:23] <pullmyfin> mustard5...do i change it to the reiser partition?
[07:23] <aftertaf> Stricklin: scsi?  you got the partition reference right?
[07:23] <mustard5> pullmyfin, I know you have to be quite careful with dual boot and XP/ntfs...
[07:23] <salvo> ITALIA?
[07:24] <DJ-Power> p229 Ots DJ runs fine in win98
[07:24] <Eggo> haha okay then aftertaf
[07:24] <Stricklin>  /media/docs works fine, but it shows up in filesystem, not as a separate volume
[07:24] <aftertaf> Eggo: :)
[07:24] <aftertaf> Eggo: sometimes, brute force way works best
[07:24] <LaserLine> blissex version 2.6 is the newest ? (what does install with sh ?)
[07:24] <Blissex> LaserLine: from http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/ the Linux port.
[07:24] <aftertaf> Stricklin: as a separate volume? it wont. everything is relative to "/"
[07:24] <mustard5> pullmyfin, I would be reading up on the forums about other peoples XP experiences before diving in
[07:25] <P229> DJ-Power: what errors do you get during the install?
[07:25] <pullmyfin> doing so as we speak
[07:25] <mustard5> pullmyfin, I don't have much of clue about XP...never had it
[07:25] <DJ-Power> chadza the cursor doesnt move or anything it doesnt display stars dots or anything and then says the password is wrong if I type it in
[07:25] <salvo> CUALCUNO PARLA ITALIANO?
[07:25] <aftertaf> !ita
[07:25] <ubotu> ita is, like, italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[07:25] <mustard5> I was win98se
[07:25] <Stricklin> Then I might as well have one big partition instead of one for /, one for /home and one for my data
[07:25] <Chadza> DJ-Power, You're typing in your user p/w right?
[07:25] <LaserLine> blissex it's a broken link.
[07:25] <aftertaf> Stricklin: not really... they still are separate, but they mount to /
[07:26] <aftertaf> or somewhere under it
[07:26] <PatrikJohansson> new problem: when i try to acces the hdd that holds my win xp x64 (ntfs) i get this error msg: "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1"."
[07:26] <chapeaurouge> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IsMrv990.html
[07:26] <PatrikJohansson> ideas??
[07:26] <davidmccabe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade versus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes ... Any ideas which is definitive and so on?
[07:26] <Blissex> LaserLine: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=161413&postcount=144
[07:26] <DJ-Power> p229 the main problem is the command boxes during the install dont display properly so you dont know what they say
[07:26] <DJ-Power> chadza yes
[07:26] <mustard5> pullmyfin, I know that I have read many threads of XP users seeking advice on restoring their system after mucking up the XP boot
[07:26] <GreenFireD> hello
[07:26] <pullmyfin> mustard5...thats what im afraid of.
[07:26] <mustard5> pullmyfin, so I am very hesitant to comment
[07:26] <chapeaurouge> can anyone take a look at this and advise?
[07:26] <chapeaurouge> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IsMrv990.html
[07:27] <mustard5> pullmyfin, more reading more questions...when you are sure then do it
[07:27] <LaserLine> blissex there is no solution there :-)
[07:27] <pullmyfin> mustard5...thanks m8. ill do that
[07:27] <mustard5> pullmyfin, and backup your XP side
[07:27] <mustard5> :)
[07:27] <Blissex> LaserLine: the solution is to disable Composite...
[07:27] <aftertaf> hi GreenFireD
[07:27] <pullmyfin> mustard5...lol
[07:27] <DJ-Power> p229 but because I have installed it many times in winblows I know what to click... but then it fails but unfortunately I cant remember what the error was
[07:27] <mustard5> :D
[07:27] <Blissex> LaserLine: http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/enemyterritory/ is a major site abou ET. There are many other places you can download it from.
[07:27] <P229> DJ-Power: are you running the install from the command line, e.g., wine install.exe? you might get some useful output that way
[07:27] <salvo> UBOTU  AIUTO COSA DEVO FARE?
[07:27] <ubotu> salvo: I don't know
[07:27] <LaserLine> blissex how to disable, i didn't see it here...
[07:28] <Eggo> we'll see if this work
[07:28] <aftertaf> !tell salvo about ita
[07:28] <chapeaurouge> can anyone take a look at this and advise?
[07:28] <chapeaurouge> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IsMrv990.html
[07:28] <mustard5> pullmyfin, you visited the ubuntu forums?
[07:28] <GreenFireD> I have a small problem: I have UBUNTU and WINDOWS XP in my computer(WIN in hda1 and linux in hda5), how can I view WIN's files from Linux? when I am clicking on hda1, it writes me that I don't have permission for this. Thanks
[07:28] <pullmyfin> mustard5...im on the forums now. cant find anything specific
[07:28] <Blissex> LaserLine: ha, how to disable is another question...
[07:28] <PatrikJohansson> "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1".",when i try to acess my win xp partition (ntfs), whats wrong??
[07:29] <mustard5> pullmyfin, try the customisation tips and tricks section
[07:29] <pullmyfin> GreenFireD...can u help me install ubuntu?
[07:29] <mustard5> tons of HOW TO's in there
[07:29] <N45800> GreenFireD: NTFS or XP?
[07:29] <N45800> *FAT32
[07:29] <aftertaf> GreenFireD: you have mounted it?
[07:29] <Blissex> LaserLine: in the meantime, do a search for this file: "et-linux-2.60.x86.run" and download it and run it as 'sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run' and it will install
[07:29] <salvo> ho appena installato per la prima volta linux ubuntu e non so cosa fare
[07:29] <DJ-Power> p229 yes i did run it from there .. I will have to go through it all again another day and make a note of the errors but I will leave it for now as i have already spent over 12 hours on it
[07:29] <P229> PatrikJohansson: add "users" to sda1' fstab line
[07:29] <mustard5> pullmyfin, you can do searches on the forum too
[07:29] <LaserLine> blissex d/l it now.
[07:29] <aftertaf> salvo: english, or go to italian chan please.
[07:29] <GreenFireD> aftertaf, what it is mean?
[07:29] <pullmyfin> mustard5...ill do that thanks
[07:29] <P229> DJ-Power: yeah, I'd give it a rest, too
[07:29] <PatrikJohansson> hehe i have the same problem as greenfireD
[07:30] <aftertaf> GreenFireD: you mounted it, or just going to /dev/hda1?
[07:30] <GreenFireD> N45800, xp
[07:30] <mustard5> :)
[07:30] <GreenFireD> PatrikJohansson, :)
[07:30] <aftertaf> !tell GreenFireD about mount
[07:30] <DJ-Power> p229 I think I am getting brain fade lol
[07:30] <aftertaf> !tell GreenFireD about windowsdrives
[07:30] <N45800> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[07:30] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, you might have to mount it as read only
[07:30] <aftertaf> GreenFireD: check the links ubotu sent you.
[07:30] <mustard5> not sure
[07:30] <dooglus> GreenFireD: look at /etc/fstab - do you see the word 'ntfs' in there?
[07:30] <GreenFireD> aftertaf, I have just gone
[07:30] <Stricklin> so, if I have a partition for just my data, and I'd like to keep it available to Windows as well, what should I put as its mount point?
[07:30] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, linux can't write to ntfs
[07:30] <PatrikJohansson> :(
[07:30] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, only read only
[07:30] <DJ-Power> thanks for now guys
[07:30] <PatrikJohansson> :(
[07:31] <P229> no problem
[07:31] <PatrikJohansson> i felt i had that coming
[07:31] <Blissex> LaserLine: to disable Composite you can just comment out the line in 'Section "Modules"' that says 'Load "Composite"'
[07:31] <mister_roboto> chapeaurouge: are you missing a package?   like libdbus-1-cil or something?  (not a mono developer)
[07:31] <LaserLine> anyone who uses gnome and ATI drivers, how can I see the .desktop file in my menu ? it's in /usr/share/gnome
[07:31] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, you can set up a fat partition to share between the two
[07:31] <chapeaurouge> mister_roboto, it doesn't look like it.
[07:31] <LaserLine> blissex in xorg.cong ?
[07:31] <P229> PatrikJohansson: theoretically, you can right to ntfs with captive-ntfs... but I wouldn't risk it
[07:31] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, linux can write fat no problem
[07:31] <GreenFireD> dooglus, don't have this folder
[07:31] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: yeah that i know :D, but isnt it much slower??
[07:31] <Blissex> LaserLine: yes.
[07:32] <mustard5> its all there is for sharing between ntfs and linux
[07:32] <mister_roboto> chapeaurouge: your MONO_PATH is setup to include that assembly containing the missing class?
[07:32] <mustard5> not many choices really :
[07:32] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5, thx
[07:32] <LaserLine> blissex what does composite mean?
[07:32] <P229> PatrikJohansson mustard5: you can also install ext2 drivers for windows
[07:32] <fabiogomes> hi, everyone
[07:32] <xophEr> PatrikJohansson, there is a commercial program that allows you to write to ntfs partitions from linux
[07:32] <dooglus> GreenFireD: you have a file called fstab in the /etc directory
[07:32] <P229> PatrikJohansson mustard5: there are probably ext3 drivers available for windows by now
[07:32] <chapeaurouge> mister_roboto, my MONO_PATH isn't set. Never was, but it worked before.
[07:33] <PatrikJohansson> p299, sounds unreliable :D
[07:33] <Blissex> LaserLine: it is a graphical technique that allows special effects like transparent windows and menus.
[07:33] <sybariten> i have two macintoshes
[07:33] <salvo> cualcuno mi sa dire come installare un programma su linux ubuntu?
[07:33] <sybariten> now you know that
[07:33] <P229> PatrikJohansson: worked fine for me
[07:33] <mustard5> P229, I'm just going on what I see said in here...I'm no expert
[07:33] <mister_roboto> chapeaurouge: is BeagleDaemon.exe your own program? if not, what changed between the time it worked and now?
[07:33] <dooglus> !es
[07:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:33] <dooglus> !it
[07:33] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[07:33] <P229> mustard5: fair enough
[07:33] <Stricklin> sybariten, then you have macinti
[07:33] <fabiogomes> i'm having a problem with intel cs430 webcam, the ubuntu recognized them, but every time i try to use them my system freezees, any ideas ???
[07:34] <sybariten> Stricklin: haha
[07:34] <chapeaurouge> mister_roboto, dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy
[07:34] <georg_> i have a technisat skystar usb but when i load the skystar2 module it won't create the /dev/dvb files
[07:34] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, found something....
[07:34] <mustard5> !tell PatrikJohansson about ntfs
[07:34] <LaserLine> blissex i'm not sure gnome has these
[07:34] <sybariten> Stricklin: sounds more like a medical condition ... which it, basicly, is
[07:34] <xophEr> PatrikJohansson, Paragon NTFS driver,
[07:34] <P229> mustard5: you're right, though, fat is definitely the easiest way to share between linux and windows
[07:34] <Blissex> LaserLine: it should have them...
[07:34] <salvo> non so dove andare
[07:34] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: thx m8
[07:35] <PatrikJohansson> xopher: ?? whats that??
[07:35] <mustard5> np
[07:35] <Stricklin> I'll ask again: Iif I have a partition for just my data, and I'd like to keep it available to Windows as well, what should I put as its mount point?
[07:35] <mister_roboto> chapeaurouge: so you DO have libdbus-1-cil installed?
[07:35] <LaserLine> blissex so the whole thing was a known issue ?
[07:35] <LaserLine> blissex becasue we didn't fix a thing, just reinstall everything :-)
[07:36] <chapeaurouge> mister_roboto, yes.
[07:36] <xophEr> its also known as the ufsd driver
[07:36] <chapeaurouge> mister_roboto, im trying to find the .dll to register it in the GAC...
[07:36] <sybariten> anyhow, i am running ubuntu on both ...   the iMac has a "windows share". meaning, it makes a samba share that looks like windows shares to windows computers. anyhow. I can reach this from the powermac. i am using the desktop way of reaching the share then. problem is, i can only reach it in nautilus, sort of. I want this share _mounted_ ... can this be done? can i find the path somehow ?
[07:36] <LaserLine> blissex I noticed that before adding the agpgart option to xorg.conf i recieved higher fps in fgl_gear
[07:36] <mustard5> Stricklin, home?  I'm just guessing...but most user stuff goes in the home directory which can be a seperate partition
[07:37] <Blissex> LaserLine: perhaps -- but given the various manipulations done rpeviously, we can now be sure everything is installed right.
[07:37] <mister_roboto> chapeaurouge: <shrug>   sorry, as I said, I don't do mono so just guessing on possible causes.   good luck
[07:37] <Blissex> LaserLine: the FPS in the gears demo does not matter a lot -- what matters is CPU usage.
[07:37] <fabiogomes> does anybore have intel cs430 webcam ???
[07:37] <chapeaurouge> mister_roboto, ok man. thanks for the pointers.
[07:37] <LaserLine> blissex what does that "option" do ?
[07:37] <cddesjar> is it easy to set up a webcam on ubuntu?
[07:37] <thirso> Has anyone had problems with OSS(Open Sound System) ?
[07:38] <mustard5> cddesjar, not always
[07:38] <mustard5> cddesjar, depends on brand
[07:38] <cddesjar> i have a logitech cam
[07:38] <thirso> i cant get any sound on Enemy Territory
[07:38] <xophEr> PatrikJohansson, check your queries
[07:38] <LaserLine> blissex - there is no Composite in XORG.conf
[07:38] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: its already mounted but i cant access it
[07:38] <P229> thirso: I think everybody has some problems with sound in linux
[07:38] <mustard5> !tell cddesjar about webcam
[07:38] <LaserLine> blissex but there is Load "glx"
[07:38] <cddesjar> logitech quickcam
[07:38] <sybariten> can anyone give me some samba tutoring? how do i found out what the name/path to a samba share is ?
[07:39] <cddesjar> i think it's a quickcam 1000
[07:39] <thirso> P229, my sound is working fine but not on games, i cant use OSS
[07:39] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, you used the pastebin before?
[07:39] <PatrikJohansson> no!
[07:39] <salvo> ubotu mi spieghi cosa fare ? la mia prima volta
[07:39] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, salvo
[07:39] <mister_roboto> !samba
[07:39] <GreenFireD> dooglus, it's take me a lot of time, but I have nfts
[07:39] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:39] <mustard5> cddesjar, check the message from ubotu
[07:39] <thirso> !OSS
[07:39] <ubotu> thirso: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:39] <hawking> mamba
[07:39] <mustard5> !tell PatrikJohansson about pastebin
[07:39] <Stricklin> mustard5, I suppose that's what I'll do then
[07:39] <timstokman> hi, are there any easy to use ftp-server packages for ubuntu avaible?
[07:39] <thirso> !sound
[07:39] <ubotu> hmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:39] <Blissex> LaserLine: then it is good...
[07:40] <mustard5> you can paste some of your mount info in the pastebin PatrikJohansson
[07:40] <cddesjar> thanks mustard
[07:40] <clineco> what parameters should i pass to GRUB to boot Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:40] <mustard5> then I can see it in detail
[07:40] <mustard5> np cddesjar
[07:40] <cddesjar> do you know if you can communicate with imac users in linux?
[07:40] <jojomonkey> im thinking of upgrading to breezy, but should i be concerned w/ all the packages that i installed w/ the backports server which doesn't seem to work anymore ?
[07:40] <abiectus> I can't get the network to work - not getting online. Anyone know how to configure the lan card? Running latest ubuntu and d-link lan card.
[07:40] <P229> thirso: all I know is that I've given up trying to fix sound problems until there's a better solution available
[07:40] <LaserLine> blissex shouldn't it load module "fglrx?
[07:40] <Blissex> LaserLine: I actually suspect everything is running OK. I have jsust tried the gears demo here, and astonishingly, even if on this PC I have full acceleration with an NVIDIA card, it runs at 100% CPU.
[07:40] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, then you can paste the link to the pastebin in here and I can go view it
[07:40] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: what do you need??
[07:40] <raingrove> hello guys
[07:41] <raingrove> can i ask u
[07:41] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I might read the how to I sent you first :D
[07:41] <raingrove> how do i apply "backingstore" to certain X windows?
[07:41] <mustard5> one tick
[07:41] <LaserLine> blissex and fgl_?
[07:41] <mirak> hi
[07:41] <Blissex> LaserLine: Ah, on this PC I have NVIDIA, and that is only with ATI drivers.
[07:41] <mirak> how to have the DVD rom always in DMA mode ?
[07:41] <Blissex> LaserLine: however my games run at full speed.
[07:42] <Blissex> mirak: '/etc/default/hdparm' IIRC
[07:42] <don-o> whats the command to swich versions of gcc?
[07:42] <Blejdfist> no /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:42] <LaserLine> blissex so all was good after all ? I installed exacly the way we did together... LoL but the game will tell... it's in 15%
[07:42] <boxman> hmm... one more thing that is missing... libdvdcss.. i dont seem to find anything remotely similar using apt-cache using breeze universe/multiverse
[07:42] <don-o> i want to make gcc-3.4 the default compiler instead of gcc-3
[07:42] <don-o> err instead of gcc-4
[07:42] <P229> mirak: edit /etc/hdparm.conf (via Blejdfist)
[07:42] <hawking> that's hard
[07:43] <sybariten> mister_roboto: i dont really need it in my Fstab or so. the question is more like this: I have a nautilus window open, displaying a samba share. I can read the files. Does this mean that that dir is also mounted on my local machine? Does it exist in the filesystem? Under / ?
[07:43] <mister_roboto> don-o: you could just change the symbolic link /usr/bin/gcc
[07:43] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3196
[07:43] <mister_roboto> don-o: assuming you have another version installed :)
[07:43] <don-o> mister_roboto: yeah i thought there ware a 'safer' way. there was some utility to do that.
[07:43] <mustard5> k
[07:43] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: its /dev/sda1 i need to acces
[07:43] <P229> mirak: you'll probably have to add the line: /dev/hd<x> { dma = on }
[07:43] <mustard5> yeah..the HOW TO says you need to mount it as read only
[07:43] <Blissex> LaserLine: perhaps it was all good. If the Atlantis screen saver run well, then it is a good sign.
[07:44] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: seems mounted
[07:44] <LaserLine> Did anyone who use GNOME ever installed a program that had a .desktop file but it won't appear in the application nor System menu ?? how can I make them happen - I killed gnome panel...
[07:44] <mustard5> as read only?
[07:44] <DarthFrog>      Does anyone know where (or if) usplash writes logs?  I'm trying to figure out why it barfs out back to straight text mode after "Loading modules".
[07:44] <Blejdfist> don-o: if you are compiling something from source you could just do "CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure" and then "make CC=gcc-3.4" etc
[07:44] <salvo> come installo un software su ubuntu?
[07:44] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5:  dont know
[07:44] <mustard5> we'll find out ;)
[07:45] <alain__> salut  tous
[07:45] <LaserLine> blissex glslideshow (screensaver) also runs good.
[07:45] <mustard5> can you type 'mount' and add that output to the bottom PatrikJohansson ?
[07:45] <PatrikJohansson> yes
[07:45] <don-o> salvo: hay un channel espanol a #ubuntu-es
[07:45] <mustard5> actually....
[07:45] <mustard5> stop..
[07:45] <mirak> P229: Blissex thanks
[07:45] <PatrikJohansson> ??
[07:45] <salvo> no
[07:45] <mister_roboto> sybariten: it's using SMB to see the share. it's not like nfs where you mount it to your local filesystem
[07:45] <mustard5> yep..ok mount is good
[07:46] <mustard5> I was going to say fstab but I imagine you aren't mounting it permanently
[07:46] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me with the Gnome .desktop files ?
[07:46] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, show me the output of mount in that same pastebin...you can edit it
[07:46] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: hmmm :D it was mounted as default
[07:46] <PatrikJohansson> i have already
[07:46] <mustard5> k
[07:47] <mustard5> ah k....you might add the contents of /etc/fstab ..it might be relevant
[07:47] <mustard5> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:47] <Blissex> LaserLine: all the GL screensavers are listed with 'dpkg -L xscreensaver-gl | sort | less -S'
[07:47] <karate-man> hello.. vould anyone help me how to install java-packages ?
[07:48] <karate-man> I'm using breezy
[07:48] <mister_roboto>  sybariten: the man page for smbclient talks about it quite a bit. it's similar to an ftp client talking to an ftp server
[07:48] <HappyFool> !tell karate-man about javadeb
[07:48] <mustard5> hmmm..I'm refreshing the pastebin but seeing the same original output
[07:48] <lips> i have run out of disc space. do you know a tool which could help me determine which folders and files are biggest?
[07:48] <magnusthe> karate-man, you've seen the pages on the wiki regarding java on Ubuntu?
[07:48] <boxman> anyone have an idea on how to get css decryption support for dvds under breeze?? i have universe+multiverse added to my apt source..
[07:48] <DarthFrog> lips: filelight?
[07:48] <PatrikJohansson> i see the new content
[07:48] <alain__> qui  peut me dire comment installer amule svp
[07:49] <cddesjar> using amsn could i chat with someone using ichat?
[07:49] <LaserLine> blissex thanks
[07:49] <mustard5> paste link in here..I'll try that
[07:49] <LaserLine> blissex I'm not so good with all the command lines...
[07:49] <PatrikJohansson> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw), doesnt that mean its read and write, how do i change it??
[07:49] <stpere> boxman, install libdvdcss
[07:49] <HappyFool> lips: something like du might help
[07:49] <LaserLine> blissex but today I understood what we were doing :-)
[07:49] <lips> happyfool du???
[07:49] <boxman> boxman, does not show up in apt-cache
[07:49] <magnusthe> PatrikJohansson ta en titt i /etc/fstab
[07:49] <HappyFool> lips: it's a command-line tool
[07:49] <mustard5> yes
[07:50] <boxman> it instead shows gxine, libdvdread3 and so on..
[07:50] <boxman> but nothing remotely similar to libdvdcss
[07:50] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, its definitely mounted as read write
[07:50] <boxman> stpere*
[07:50] <mustard5> we need to make that ro
[07:50] <DarthFrog> PatrikJohansson:  "mount -n -o remount,ro /media/sda1"
[07:50] <HappyFool> lips: try running 'du --si -s'
[07:50] <PatrikJohansson> i made a new one http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3199
[07:50] <mustard5> DarthFrog, thanks
[07:50] <lips> happyfool oh no. no command line. graphical visualisation of file size
[07:50] <karate-man> magnusthe, yes I've already been there for 1 hour
[07:50] <karate-man> they r still editing the wiki
[07:50] <lips> happyfool this is what i'm looking for
[07:50] <boxman> tomas@ubuntubox:~/azureus$ apt-cache search libdvdcss
[07:50] <boxman> libdvdread3 - Simple foundation for reading DVDs
[07:50] <boxman> libdvdread3-dev - Simple foundation for reading DVDs
[07:50] <LaserLine> blissex What did the Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" mean ?
[07:50] <stpere> boxman, you might have to add multiverse or universe repositories
[07:51] <magnusthe> karate-man, no luck with it? what have you done so far?
[07:51] <boxman> stpere, both are added.
[07:51] <HappyFool> lips: sorry, such a thing probably exists but i don't know what it is
[07:51] <Blissex> LaserLine: that means not to use the internal GART driver, which probably is buggy on NVIDIA 2 chipsets
[07:51] <mustard5> Try DarthFrogs idea but change for you configuration.../dev/sda2
[07:51] <boxman> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[07:51] <boxman> deb-src http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[07:51] <Blissex> LaserLine: there are two GART drivers, one from Xorg and one inside the ATI driver.
[07:51] <karate-man> I'm trying to unlock some restricted repositories.. to see if I can find the java-packages there
[07:52] <stpere> boxman, yes, I did searched again and I can't find it
[07:52] <mustard5> you need a directory to mount somewhere....what directory is it using atm?
[07:52] <bluefoxicy> I can't find where in the hell apache was installed o.o
[07:52] <stpere> boxman, but I'm sure I installed it
[07:52] <magnusthe> PatrikJohansson, line 28, add ',ro' after 'defaults'
[07:52] <bluefoxicy> err, where my http root is
[07:52] <boxman> :\
[07:52] <stpere> boxman, probably from a third party package
[07:52] <Blissex> LaserLine: the GART driver handles the AGP slot more or less.
[07:52] <magnusthe> karate-man, you want prepackaged stuff, rather than packaging it yourself?
[07:52] <LaserLine> blissex can I experiment with that ?
[07:52] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, got lots of help now.. :)
[07:52] <Blissex> LaserLine: yes, sure, perhaps they fixed it.
[07:53] <PatrikJohansson> hehe yeah THX all, it using /media
[07:53] <Blissex> LaserLine: may lock up your system though.
[07:53] <stpere> boxman, no, I installed it from sources
[07:53] <karate-man> I just want it to work..
[07:53] <karate-man> it was ok in hoary
[07:53] <Baldev> How do I update Ubuntu?
[07:53] <LaserLine> blissex i'm used to rebooting :-)
[07:53] <karate-man> I duno why it's not avaiable in breezy
[07:53] <stpere> boxman, probably Ubuntu wanted to stay in clear water, legal wise
[07:53] <DarthFrog> Baldev: Read the channel topic.
[07:53] <magnusthe> karate-dev, what isn't viewable in breezy?
[07:53] <boxman> i guess so..
[07:54] <Baldev> I did, but I don't know what I'm upgrading to
[07:54] <mustard5> if you change the fstab settings from rw to ro, I imagine you could run mount -a and it will mount them all again
[07:54] <Baldev> I just know that there is a new version out.
[07:54] <DarthFrog> Baldev: To Breezy.
[07:54] <Baldev> So we're not using Hoary anymore?
[07:54] <DarthFrog> Breezy was released this week.
[07:54] <TiMiDo> yes it was
[07:55] <Gorth-> Do Ubuntu support wireless cards during install?
[07:55] <marsh> Hey guys - this is getting silly... does Breezy not include xine?
[07:55] <magnusthe> karate-man, I've never had any problems with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[07:55] <davidmccabe> marsh: xine is being phased out of a lot of things; though I don't know about breezy in particular.
[07:55] <mustard5> marsh,  yes
[07:55] <ompaul> marsh, the idea is a minimum install and the you load on all the stuff you want
[07:55] <TiMiDo> marsh nope it doesn't
[07:55] <mustard5> marsh totem-xine
[07:55] <TiMiDo> mustard5 it doesn't bring gxine
[07:56] <TiMiDo> lol
[07:56] <mustard5> :)
[07:56] <lips> darthfrog filelight is incredible, thank you
[07:56] <PatrikJohansson> ADED, ro after default on line 28 as someone said and ran mount -a but still get same output with the mount command???
[07:56] <PatrikJohansson> and cant acces it still
[07:56] <marsh> ompaul, i'm not talking about the install - I can't apt-get it!
[07:56] <DarthFrog> lips: You're welcome.
[07:56] <PatrikJohansson> *added
[07:56] <mustard5> try restarting..that will definitely run fstab again
[07:57] <mustard5> :D
[07:57] <Blissex> LaserLine: when you run a Gl screensaver from '/usr/lib/xscreensaver' you can use the '-fps' option to check the FPS. Now what matters is not how big it is, but that it stays the same if you resize the window to be much larger.
[07:57] <DarthFrog> PatrikJohansson: Don't worry, it's mounted ro
[07:57] <PatrikJohansson> ok BRB do you run away :D
[07:57] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone...
[07:57] <DarthFrog> PatrikJohansson: "mount -n" means don't touch /etc/mtab
[07:57] <Blissex> LaserLine: the non accelerated driver slows down a lot the larger the window is, the accelerated one does not slow down.
[07:57] <marsh> I've added & taken away various repos, had loads of problems with them for 2 days now, just updated to Breezy, and still can't get a basic system :(
[07:57] <DarthFrog> PatrikJohansson: So it will still be reported as rw, but it is mounted ro.
[07:57] <mustard5> DarthFrog sorry...your solution is far more elegant :)
[07:57] <magnusthe> PatrikJohanson, unmount it first, then "mount -a"
[07:58] <mustard5> he's rebooting
[07:58] <Chadza> Can anyone tell me how to unmute the sound in gnome?
[07:58] <DarthFrog> mustard5: :-)
[07:58] <Chadza> The icon says it's muted but the slider is turned up.
[07:58] <marsh> It has become very difficult to get a system up and running with mp3/dvd...
[07:58] <mustard5> I'm a fly by the seat of my pants linux user ;)
[07:58] <Blissex> LaserLine: for example here '/usr/lib/xscreensaver/atlantis -fps' does 32FPS both at 640x480 and 1280x1024.
[07:58] <mustard5> good at wreckin stuff :D
[07:58] <drunken-wallaby> is anyone here who might help me with a problem concerning a hauppauge tv-card?
[07:58] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, possibly
[07:59] <marsh> these f***ing lawyers are pushing Linux backwards ;(
[07:59] <LaserLine> blissex you change the resolution by maximizing the window ?
[07:59] <mustard5> I have hauppauge tv card that works...guess that qualifies me
[07:59] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, what's the issue?
[08:00] <mustard5> wb PatrikJohansson
[08:00] <drunken-wallaby> mustard5: thx. i bought a hauppauge pvr-150, put in in my pc, downloaded and installed the ivtv0.4 drivers + firmware. the card is detected properly (at least it says so in dmesg). however, i just can't get any tv-signal. cat /dev/video0 > /home/bla/test.mpg just gives an black video stream...
[08:00] <kvidell> kermit's such a good piece of software
[08:00] <marsh> Does anyone have a descent repo list they can post to make Linux useable
[08:00] <marsh> ?
[08:00] <morphix> hi ppl.
[08:00] <PatrikJohansson> hmmm didnt help but now its ro allright
[08:00] <ompaul> marsh  totem-xine resides in a repo called universe
[08:01] <LaserLine> blissex how do you resize ?
[08:01] <mustard5> hmmm..I'm using xawtv drunken-wallaby it works ok with my winTV pci card
[08:01] <PatrikJohansson> still get... You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1"
[08:01] <morphix> i was wondering if someone could help me.. i was wanting to ssh into my linux box.. open say.. irssi.. and leave it open.. but logout of ssh?
[08:01] <Blissex> LaserLine: just frag a corner of the window
[08:01] <Shuddertrix> morphix: screen
[08:01] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, I tried all the tv apps in the repositories and xawtv was my best result
[08:01] <Blissex> LaserLine: or you can use '-geometry XxY'
[08:01] <marsh> thanks ompaul
[08:01] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, you installed non debian drivers?
[08:01] <ompaul> marsh you can enable that in synaptic
[08:01] <mister_roboto> ompaul: what's an easy cmd line way to find what repo a package is in?
[08:01] <marsh> sorry - i missed that before, ompaul
[08:02] <LaserLine> blissex it stays 40fps
[08:02] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: still get .... You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1"
[08:02] <LaserLine> blissex i guess that's good ?
[08:02] <drunken-wallaby> mustard5: even with xawtv i only get a black screen. no, i downloaded the drivers from the ivtv homepage
[08:02] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, DarthFrog has more answers for you after you left
[08:02] <Blissex> LaserLine: that is very good.
[08:02] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I would ask him
[08:02] <Shuddertrix> morphix: a quick tip: 'screen irssi' to open up a screen session with irssi, ^AD will detach the screen, and 'screen -r' will return you to that screen.
[08:02] <LaserLine> blissex thanks :-)
[08:03] <Baldev> Hrm, the update is going somewhat slowly, is the server loaded up?
[08:03] <mister_roboto> ompaul: assuming the repo is in your sources.list. i mean
[08:03] <PatrikJohansson> darthfrog: are you there??
[08:03] <Baldev> Er.. Loaded up meaning.. somewhat overloaded
[08:03] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, the black screen might be a failure of overlay mode....so you use grabdisplay
[08:03] <ompaul> mister_roboto, find the package with apt-cache search foo and when you find the one you want apt-cache policy search   --- this only works for repos that you have
[08:03] <morphix> ok thanks Shuddertrix for that :)
[08:03] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, I also get a black screen when another sound device is going
[08:03] <mister_roboto> ompaul: thx.   the policy cmd is what i was looking for :)
[08:03] <Shuddertrix> morphix: Don't forget that ^ is Ctrl on a standard IBM-PC keyboard.
[08:04] <marsh> apt-cache search mp3
[08:04] <marsh> Ooops! sorry ^
[08:04] <ompaul> mister_roboto, maybe your exact question has something to do with nature of the answer :-)
[08:04] <mustard5> drunken-wallaby, I'm pretty sure I have seen some clues over at xawtv page in the FAQ regarding black screens
[08:04] <PatrikJohansson> darthfrog: are you there??
[08:04] <renani_> hi! I got a newbie problem with ubuntu, I was wondering who I could ask for help
[08:04] <drunken-wallaby> mustard5: hm, i could check this out but i don't have any music-application running. question: i have another tv-card (an old pci-fm) still in my comp. could this cause any problems?
[08:04] <kamill> hello there
[08:04] <kamill> do you know when the ubuntu backports run?
[08:04] <Chadza> Can anyone tell me how to prevent gdm from running at boot?
[08:04] <morphix> yup Shuddertrix
[08:04] <nalioth> renani_: just ask
[08:05] <mustard5> it could, but I couldn't say for sure
[08:05] <nalioth> kamill: when dapper drake starts developement, backports will start appearing
[08:05] <theblue> Hi all.
[08:05] <lips> is it save to delete content of var/cache?
[08:05] <renani_> just installed ubuntu, but I managed to screw up the keyboard  layout choice so now I'm using a layout from another country then what I prefer.
[08:05] <seife> How do i remove all the sound stuff, and put the sound default as come with ubuntu?
[08:05] <ompaul> renani_, ask us all and see who answers - give as much detail in your question for large volumes of data use a pastebin
[08:05] <renani_>  Usually, with feudora I would run setup or directly change it in system-config-keyboard but I can't seem to find the program setup or the file
[08:06] <Baldev> Can someone direct me to a program that will play mp3 cd's?
[08:06] <Chadza> renani_, Have you tried reconfiguring X?
[08:06] <theblue> baldev: From my experience, xmms can do it.
[08:06] <theblue> \
[08:06] <Baldev> k..
[08:06] <renani_> nope
[08:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Baldev about mp3
[08:06] <renani_> emm :P how do I do that
[08:06] <kamill> do you hesr me? I'm just asking when the backports will ron ? :)
[08:06] <Chadza> renani_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:06] <nalioth> kamill: when dapper starts developing
[08:06] <marsh> !mp3
[08:06] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <Chadza> That should let you reset your keyboard settings.
[08:06] <renani_> k thanks
[08:07] <Chadza> That should let you reset your keyboard settings.
[08:07] <Chadza> Can anyone tell me how to prevent gdm from running at boot?
[08:07] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, he's still showing in the channel...might be afk
[08:07] <kamill> mwicie po polsku ? :>
[08:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Chadza about bum
[08:07] <lips> kamill tak
[08:07] <nalioth> !pl
[08:07] <ubotu> nalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:07] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: k
[08:07] <kamill> czy nie kumacie po english :S
[08:08] <lips> kamill there is offcial channel of polish ubuntu
[08:08] <mustard5> repeat the question if you have no luck...
[08:08] <rak_> is ther ean easy way to set up a VPN client on Ubuntu (any nice GUI for it)?
[08:08] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: yeah soon im afk now and then to
[08:08] <Chadza> nalioth, Thanks.
[08:08] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I'm surprised it didn't work....
[08:08] <sybariten> i am running ubuntu from liveCD. it seems most people like to do sudo commands instead of su:ing then. Now i'm at a place where it actually asks for a "password to run shares-admin". can i get a root PW somehow ?
[08:09] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, can you browse to it in nautilus?
[08:09] <ompaul> sybariten, use your own password
[08:09] <aliabdin> is ther ean easy way to set up a VPN client on Ubuntu (any nice GUI for it)?
[08:09] <sybariten> ompaul: whaddayamean
[08:09] <ompaul> sybariten, sorry just saw the liveccd
[08:09] <sybariten> mmm
[08:10] <lips> darthfrog is it save to delete content of /var/cache/? it's eating almost 30% of my hd space...
[08:11] <mustard5> lips,  you can run a apt command to clear your cache
[08:11] <topyli> lips: NO!
[08:11] <Habbie> lips: apt-get clean
[08:11] <thirso> /server -m irc
[08:11] <topyli> lips: not all of /var/cache, you just want to remove the debs
[08:11] <ompaul> sybariten, there is no root password on the live CD there is a root terminal which will give you the access before you start - wrt you specific issue I am not running live its located on applications system tools and there yoiu should find it if my memory is okay
[08:12] <seife> How do i remove all the sound stuff, and put the sound default as come with ubuntu?
[08:12] <mustard5> seife, what 'sound stuff' in particular?
[08:12] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: i cant acces it through the file browser, thats when i get the error message
[08:12] <mustard5> k
[08:13] <sybariten> ompaul: didnt understand much of what you wrote after the "-"
[08:13] <cius> I have a question about installing ubuntu and good partitioning practice.
[08:13] <nalioth> cius: ask us
[08:13] <seife> mustard5, i dont know man i just have sound on speakers, but not on headphones, this is making me to reformat, ive days trying to fix this
[08:13] <Nick_Hill> Reporting bugs: When I use reportbug, it sends the bug to ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com. Bugs I reported get held for moderator approval. Are the bugs going into a bitbucket?
[08:14] <dooglus> I have a question about building packages.  suppose I want to build the 'vte' library with debugging enabled...  how do I do it?
[08:14] <mustard5> seife, that sounds like a hardware issue
[08:14] <cius> I've heard that its good to put your /home on a seperate partition so that you can preserve it on a reinstall.  Is this a good idea?
[08:14] <lips> habbie is coomand apt-get clean removing all deb's?
[08:14] <Habbie> lips: yes
[08:14] <nalioth> dooglus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[08:14] <dooglus> cius: I heard the same thing.
[08:14] <Blissex> seife: perhaps you should study how the sound syste works...
[08:14] <nalioth> cius: yes it's a good idea
[08:14] <dooglus> nalioth: thanks
[08:14] <seife> mustard5, i think is not, is an USB headphones..
[08:14] <seife> I see them on Device Manager.
[08:14] <Habbie> cius: yes
[08:14] <aliabdin> if i want the kernel source - do i get the linux-source or the linux-tree package?
[08:15] <seife> Blissex, ive studied
[08:15] <mustard5> ah...well that makes a difference.. seife
[08:15] <Blissex> seife: look at the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[08:15] <SEJeff> aliabdin: The the linux kernel headers
[08:15] <Nick_Hill> Does Ubuntu have a bug tracking system?
[08:15] <Blissex> seife: in particular how to select the default device, or a device at all.
[08:15] <mustard5> seife,  so your question should be..how can I get my USB headphones working
[08:15] <nalioth> aliabdin: linux-source, then kernel-headers
[08:15] <Milktea> Does anyone here use Wine with WoW?
[08:15] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <seife> yes, mustard5 do u have the answer?
[08:16] <cius> nalioth, how big should my root partition be then?  Is there a "good estimate" for this, like maybe so much percentage of the hard drive or something?
[08:16] <sybariten> does my standard "ubuntu" user on the liveCD even have a PW ??
[08:16] <PatrikJohansson> when i try to access my ntfs partition mounted as ro at /media i get this error msg :"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1""
[08:16] <mustard5> no , sorry, but you will get a better result with that question...as its more specific
[08:16] <SEJeff> sybariten: You need to set one
[08:16] <sybariten> SEJeff: ok got any pointers for more web info ?
[08:16] <nalioth> cius: make your root ~4gb
[08:16] <renani_> nalioth,  just ran throught setup, didnt help
[08:16] <sybariten> such as keywords
[08:17] <nalioth> renani_: setup for what?
[08:17] <SEJeff> sybariten: try typing passwd in a terminal
[08:17] <trincamckee> greetings
[08:17] <seife>  mustard5 do you?
[08:17] <cius> nalioth, thanks, that helps a lot.  I'd hate to have my root run out of room on me.  I'll try that.
[08:17] <SublimeInfidel> Can somebody help me with enabling wireless with Ubuntu?
[08:17] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, Thanks. My bugs are being sent to ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, then being held for moderator approval (as I am not a member of that list). Do you think the system is mis-configured?
[08:17] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I thought we fixed sda2 not sda1?
[08:17] <sybariten> SEJeff: ah.  :)  thanks
[08:18] <aliabdin> nalioth: is the kernel-headers mandatory?
[08:18] <renani_> oh im sorry it was chadza who suggested:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <aliabdin> nalioth: and does the order matter?
[08:18] <mustard5> seife, no , sorry, but you will get a better result with that question...as its more specific
[08:18] <nalioth> aliabdin: the order doesn't matter
[08:18] <Paradoxx> hmm, whats the shortcut for switching between desktops?
[08:18] <lips> habbie that works thanks :-)))
[08:18] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: no, sda1
[08:18] <SublimeInfidel> Can anyody help me with enabling wireless on Ubunutu?
[08:18] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: i use bugzilla. idk about mailing lists
[08:18] <sybariten> WTF, running passwd it asks for the current PW ???
[08:18] <SublimeInfidel> *ubuntu
[08:18] <mustard5> ah k..cause it says sda2 in the pastebin
[08:18] <nalioth> Paradoxx: ctrl-alt-right/left arrows
[08:19] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, I use reportbug. Reportbug has been configured to send to that list.
[08:19] <cius> one last question before I go, I have a gig of ram, and my swap is currently 2.7 gigs, would it be okay to lower this to around a gig or so or would that likely hurt system performance?
[08:19] <aliabdin> nalioth: which should i installed though linux-headers-2.6.12-9 or linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386?
[08:19] <mustard5> doh..me read the bottom line
[08:19] <mustard5> I see it now :D
[08:19] <seife> How can i get my USB headphones working?
[08:19] <chorton> Can anyone tell me how to raise the 'resolution' in the console?
[08:19] <Milktea> Does anyone here use Wine with WoW?
[08:19] <nalioth> aliabdin: -386
[08:19] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: hehe
[08:19] <Milktea> (sorry for the repeat, I lagged)
[08:19] <flogiston> Just installed breezy. But it didn'task for root pass.
[08:19] <spanky_> can anyone  help me?
[08:20] <spanky_> i am trying to mount a partition with no success
[08:20] <Blissex> flogiston: it is a FAQ.
[08:20] <Blissex> !root
[08:20] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:20] <topyli> chorton: use the framebuffer, put something like vga=791 in your kernel options in grub's menu.lst
[08:20] <Nick_Hill> flogiston, I didn't think 5.4 did either.
[08:20] <spanky_> first time linux user
[08:20] <aliabdin> nalioth: thanks a lot
[08:20] <flogiston> Yes it did.
[08:20] <seife> How can i get my USB headphones working?
[08:20] <SublimeInfidel> I'm just trying to enable wireless
[08:20] <sjlanda> hello
[08:20] <Nick_Hill> Fleebailey33, use sudo su then put user password in for root access
[08:20] <Blissex> seife: use the 'snd-usb-audio; driver.
[08:20] <chorton> topyli: What numbers are valid?
[08:20] <chorton> topyli: Just 791?
[08:20] <PatrikJohansson> when i try to access my ntfs partition mounted as ro at /media i get this error msg :"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1"", Any ideas??
[08:20] <sjlanda> SOMEONE WANT A FRIEND WHISPER ME :)
[08:21] <mustard5> seife, bingo ;)
[08:21] <aliabdin> nalioth: do i need linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12?
[08:21] <sybariten> gah! i'm going f__king crazy here ... is there or isnt there a password for the default ubuntu user on the livecd ???
[08:21] <topyli> chorton: dunno, i hunted them down a long time ago and forgot all but 791. there are lines for many resolutions and color depths
[08:21] <salvo> CIAO A TUTTI cualcuno parla italiano?
[08:21] <tuxuntu> Hello! I can't get glx with nvidia to work (glxgears is slow) but glxinfo | grep render shows direct rendering enabled?!
[08:21] <spudse> Is there something like Taskmanager (from winxp) for ubuntu ? a program has crashed and now I cant get the window away
[08:21] <spanky_> sybariten, go to system, administration users
[08:21] <spanky_> then in there click show all usres
[08:21] <nalioth> aliabdin: your apt-get should pull in necessary depends
[08:21] <chorton> topyli: Thanks
[08:21] <spanky_> and u can edit the root password
[08:21] <greenman> anyone know something about #alicebot
[08:22] <spanky_> Does anyone know anything about mounting NTFS file system???
[08:22] <marsh> and what happened to my easy, quick to get a terminal up right click on the desktop feature??
[08:22] <nalioth> !ita
[08:22] <ubotu> somebody said ita was italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[08:22] <salvo> SI
[08:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell spanky_ about ntfs
[08:22] <KraetziChriZ> Hi Guys, after Upgrading to Breezy the QT-Tool "klibido" is a littlebit broken -> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/download.php?id=153 -> anyone know what there is going wrong?
[08:23] <seife> mustard5, it says couldnt find snd-usb-audio
[08:23] <Paradoxx> whats the shortcut for switching between virtual desktops?
[08:23] <marsh> spanky_, only that you cant write to it
[08:23] <Nick_Hill> spanky_, NTFS is experimental in GNU/Linux as MS will not disclose how it works, and all we know is from reverse engineering.
[08:23] <greenman> Is here any expert in Computer Science ?
[08:23] <nalioth> KraetziChriZ: you'll have to build klibido from source
[08:23] <spudse> How can I kill/terminate a program that crashed ?
[08:23] <morphix> hmm
[08:23] <Nick_Hill> spanky_, Writing with NTFS has been gradually becoming less dangerous.
[08:23] <mustard5> seife, and blissex just timed out of the channel...bummer
[08:23] <spanky_> i can mount it, but when i try to access it, i do not have the permission
[08:23] <KraetziChriZ> nalioth: why? there is an Ubuntu-Package in Breezy...!
[08:23] <spanky_> only the root can access it, but i cannot login as root
[08:23] <msg43> Hi
[08:24] <greenman> Is here any graduate in Computer Science ?
[08:24] <nalioth> KraetziChriZ: does it work?
[08:24] <KraetziChriZ> nalioth: sure
[08:24] <KraetziChriZ> nalioth: but look at the bug!
[08:24] <mustard5> seife hang on let me look for it
[08:24] <johnny_> !fixres
[08:24] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:24] <msg43> Has ubuntu upgrade abiword to 2.4?
[08:24] <Nick_Hill> spanky_, How do you mount it?
[08:24] <seife> whats the cmd to find a package?
[08:24] <marsh> The restricted link that ubotu refers to includes 'outside repositaries, but the repo doesn't work... is it possible to change this?
[08:24] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hullo, I am still a newbie and I was wondering if you could help me with my wireless and mounting problems
[08:24] <spudse> why doesnt anyone ever answers my questions here ?
[08:24] <spudse> I ask such a easy thing
[08:25] <Rawplayer> if its easy then sort it out by yourself
[08:25] <Redhammer_the_Ol> I have a texas instruments based card and want to de-install the acx100 driver and use ndiswrapper --> so I can have wpa encryption
[08:25] <nemik> so you shuold get it yourself then, no?
[08:25] <spanky_> -mnt -t/ntfs so on so forth...
[08:25] <nalioth> KraetziChriZ: all i see is a screen shot
[08:25] <morphix> how do i 'minimize' something like irssi so i can get back to the terminal without it closing irssi?
[08:25] <HappyFool> spudse: try applications -> system tools -> system monitor, look for the program there
[08:25] <sybariten> spanky_: ok thank you ...
[08:25] <Rawplayer> and no one SHOULD give ANYONE help
[08:25] <mickey> just installed ubuntu trying to make the switch from windows
[08:25] <KraetziChriZ> nalioth: all menus are TWICE!
[08:25] <spudse> omg you guys should have a stay at #php on how to treat newbs
[08:25] <salvo> EEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII NON C ? NESSUNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:25] <wizatcomputer> spudse:  type "ps -wz", kind the poircess number of the app, then type "kill <process number>"
[08:25] <mickey> anyone care to help me with some problems
[08:25] <dooglus> !pbuilder
[08:25] <ubotu> from memory, pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[08:25] <sybariten> although i hate when things has to be done graphically ... without exception
[08:25] <spudse> HappyFool, wizatcomputer, thanks
[08:26] <spudse> ill take a look
[08:26] <wizatcomputer> altight
[08:26] <Nick_Hill> spanky_, Uou can use the options uid=xxx,gid=xxx . If you use the user's UID and GID, the user should be able to read it.
[08:26] <wizatcomputer> *alright
[08:26] <msg43> Has ubuntu upgrade abiword to 2.4?
[08:26] <dooglus> nalioth: that page you told me about seems to be using an old way of building packages - is pbuilder the preferred way now?
[08:26] <Paradoxx> greenman: just ask your question
[08:26] <PatrikJohansson> when i try to access my ntfs partition mounted as ro at /media i get this error msg :"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1""
[08:26] <PatrikJohansson> any ideas??
[08:26] <nalioth> KraetziChriZ: idk anything about qt or klibido . perhaps ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu
[08:27] <SEJeff> PatrikJohansson: add uid=1000 to the end of your mount options
[08:27] <sybariten> what the hell is this thing that when i enter for instance the user admin program, enter a new PW for ubuntu user, press OK everywhere to get out to the desktop, i then get the requester for a PW?  i enter the newly created PW, and get back to the user admin program ?
[08:27] <KraetziChriZ> nalioth: ok, thank you! :)
[08:27] <HappyFool> msg43: looks like version 2.4.1 in ubuntu 5.10; you can check on packages.ubuntu.com for yourself
[08:27] <nalioth> dooglus: the wiki has the 'preferred ubuntu way'
[08:27] <mustard5> seife I had to update my repostories and my modem is very slow.....*waits*
[08:27] <spanky_> how do i add that, what woudl the command loko like nick_hill
[08:27] <PatrikJohansson> in the conf file??
[08:27] <Nick_Hill> NTFS: Yes. look at the file /etc/fstab. put uid=xxx gid=xxx
[08:27] <spanky_> i just started using linux yesterday, i dont know anything
[08:27] <msg43> HappyFool, do you have abiword installed/
[08:27] <nemik> its not really an ubuntu question, but does anyone know any channels specializing in hardware? i need some help with which WAN failover router/switch to get.
[08:27] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, in fstab
[08:27] <renani_> if anyone have any idea how I change my keyboard language, please msg
[08:27] <SEJeff> PatrikJohansson: How are you mounting the drive?
[08:27] <HappyFool> msg43: no
[08:28] <salvo> COME INSTALLO UN SOFTWARE?
[08:28] <msg43> Does anyone have abiword installed?
[08:28] <Redhammer_the_Ol> anybody help me with my wireless... problem
[08:28] <dooglus> nalioth: the wiki also has https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto , which claims that pbuilder is the recommended way too...  I don't know which to believe :)
[08:28] <marsh> spanky_, check this out http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/
[08:28] <PatrikJohansson> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,ro     0       0, in fstab
[08:28] <Nick_Hill> /dev/sda1 /mnt/winrot  ntfs    defaults,noauto,user,uid=nick            0       0   where nick is your account name.
[08:28] <HappyFool> renani_: (ubuntu 5.10) doe System -> Admin -> Language selector help
[08:29] <GTroy__> how hard is it for the beginner to install moaning goat meter?
[08:29] <seife> mustard5, ready?
[08:29] <GTroy__> say....me
[08:29] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill: was that for me??
[08:29] <mustard5> seife still updating...keep asking while I update
[08:29] <Buddha|> I have two questions: Will uninstalling OpenOffice break anything on my system, and do I have to restart after installing a new language pack?
[08:29] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, it was for you and spanky_
[08:29] <anindya> mustard5, thanks mate apt is working now, at the same time i switched to ubuntu
[08:29] <nalioth> dooglus: i use dpkg-buildpackage in a pbuilder environment (when i dont use apt-get -b source pkgname)
[08:29] <HappyFool> GTroy__: try 'sudo apt-get install mgm'
[08:30] <seife> How can i get my USB headphones working?
[08:30] <mustard5> anindya, np
[08:30] <GTroy__> thank you HappyFool
[08:30] <HappyFool> GTroy__: if you have the universe repository enabled
[08:30] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, It is an example, not exactly what you should use.
[08:30] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill: just checking so i dont do anything wrong
[08:30] <GTroy__> I do
[08:31] <GTroy__> working, thanks again
[08:31] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, basically, after defaults, add uid=youraccountname . This will make all files int he ount owned by you.
[08:31] <mickey> anyone feeling very helpful, I've got some questions that would be easier answered on pm sort of basis, since I"m new to linux
[08:31] <Nick_Hill> the mount
[08:31] <greenman> Bill gates sucks !
[08:31] <mustard5> anindya, did you add your CD back in synaptic?
[08:31] <fbn> is it possible to replace the default Breezy bootsplash theme?
[08:31] <nalioth> mickey: as in the channel, there are more brains here
[08:31] <mustard5> anindya, you mght have overwritten the line that points synaptic to the CD
[08:31] <mickey> I can't see any of my other files, except for one drive
[08:31] <anindya> actually I just modified the sources.list file from your link
[08:31] <mickey> the hd are mounted
[08:32] <mickey> but it says its unreadable
[08:32] <anindya> yes I am checking mustard
[08:32] <mustard5> anindya, go into synaptic and find 'add cd' in the menus
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mickey about pastebin
[08:32] <mustard5> and wack your install cd in the drive
[08:32] <mickey> says I don't have the permissions necessary to view
[08:32] <dooglus> nalioth: I use dpkg-buildpackage too.  but that only works the first time you do a build.  what if you change something any want to rebuild?  if you run 'dpkg-buildpackage' again, it will un-apply the patches.
[08:32] <mustard5> I think...
[08:32] <nalioth> mickey: pastebin your errors, please. use the info ubotu just sent you
[08:32] <mustard5> can't remember
[08:32] <spanky_> thanks all
[08:33] <mickey> gotta start small nalioth, how do I pastebin
[08:33] <johnny_> how can i edit a system file?
[08:33] <mustard5> seife my modem is very slow :D
[08:33] <anindya> I didnt delete it mustard :)
[08:33] <mickey> I am an hour old at this
[08:33] <TiMiDo> johnny_ did nano
[08:33] <nalioth> dooglus: if you're in a pbuilder environment, you set it up again the way you want
[08:33] <dooglus> johnny_: "sudo <editor> <file>"
[08:33] <johnny_> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf i did this
[08:33] <nalioth> mickey: ubotu sent you a msg
[08:33] <seife> mustard5, i see.
[08:33] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, same for me :( , do you get "you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "XXX"."
[08:33] <johnny_> but like the document seemed empty or something.
[08:33] <dooglus> nalioth: I don't follow sorry.
[08:33] <mustard5> anindya, cool
[08:33] <mickey> yes patrik
[08:33] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, then lets see if someone can solve it
[08:33] <johnny_> how do i edit it with the nano i opened it with this command sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and like it seemed empty.
[08:33] <mustard5> seife, says 4 minutes left
[08:34] <tony_> hi all! looking for backport of gtk-sharp2 ... cant find it for hoary... Do i need a new repositry?
[08:34] <Buddha|> Will uninstalling OpenOffice break anything on my system?
[08:34] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, mickey Patrick, did you make the change to fstab, unmount then remount?
[08:34] <clarte76> salut y a t il un canal franais
[08:34] <anindya> but thanks a lot mustard, for helping me out :)
[08:34] <nalioth> dooglus: perhaps you should ask in -motu
[08:34] <greenman> LOGIN Please enter your username. LOGIN SEQUENCE MY USER NAME PLEASE ENTER YOUR USERNAME Please enter your password. valid mypassword * PLEASE ENTER YOUR USERNAME Please enter your password. invalid * PLEASE ENTER YOUR PASSWORD
[08:34] <mustard5> anindya, pleasure  your qualified synaptic tutor now :D
[08:34] <theblue> clarte76: #ubuntu-fr
[08:34] <dooglus> nalioth: haha.  getting answers in -motu is like getting blood out of a stone :)
[08:34] <mickey> Nick_Hill i've got no idea what fstab is
[08:35] <greenman> bot.star(1) == bot.get("password");
[08:35] <greenman> You are now logged in. false
[08:35] <greenman> You have entered an incorrect username and/or password.
[08:35] <greenman> You have entered an incorrect username and/or password.
[08:35] <greenman> *
[08:35] <mickey> or how to private message :-)
[08:35] <Redhammer_the_Ol> [19:28]  <marsh> spanky_, check this out http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/
[08:35] <Redhammer_the_Ol> [19:28]  <PatrikJohansson> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,ro     0       0, in fstab
[08:35] <Redhammer_the_Ol> [19:28]  <Nick_Hill> /dev/sda1 /mnt/winrot  ntfs    defaults,noauto,user,uid=nick            0       0   where nick is your account name.
[08:35] <Redhammer_the_Ol> oops sorry
[08:35] <dooglus> nalioth: I asked there before I asked here - and nobody has answered yet.
[08:35] <anindya> Yes, I am going put a link on my blog to your page :) hope others will get help from it
[08:35] <mickey> talk about feeling like an idiot
[08:35] <PatrikJohansson> redhammer_the_ol, already tried that
[08:35] <mustard5> aaaagh!!! stop pasting!
[08:35] <spudse> Hello, I see the apache server is standard installed in Ubuntu. But how do I start it ?
[08:36] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, what??
[08:36] <Buddha|> Do I have to restart my computer after installing a language pack for it to take effect?
[08:36] <Nick_Hill> Or from the bot over at #debian:<dpkg> methinks ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root.  See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventf
[08:36] <GTroy__> HappyFool, now that I've got mgm installed *gulp* how do I run it?
[08:36] <mustard5> Buddha|, don't know..can't hurt to try
[08:36] <ssam> Buddha|, i think so
[08:36] <HappyFool> GTroy__: i don't know, i'm afraid
[08:37] <HappyFool> GTroy__: look in /usr/share/doc/mgm for help files
[08:37] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, gid=XXX ??+ in fstab??+
[08:37] <GTroy__> ah, thanks
[08:37] <Buddha|> mustard5, ssam - thanks.  Also, will uninstalling OpenOffice break anything on my system?
[08:37] <HappyFool> GTroy__: or run 'man mgm' -- there may be docs
[08:37] <mustard5> Buddha|, I would think not
[08:37] <mickey> Patrikjohansson I"m not sure how you are doing the private message, please let me know
[08:37] <HappyFool> GTroy__: it sounds like an interesting program ;) have fun
[08:37] <ssam> Buddha|, no, but it will remove the ubuntu-desktop meta package
[08:37] <GTroy__> :D
[08:37] <renani_> I've chosen the right language, but the keyboard mixes two letters and the pipe is not where it should be
[08:38] <Buddha|> ssam - okay, and what will that do?
[08:38] <spanky_> what is the problem with this line : mount -t ntft -o uid=xxx, gid=xxx /dev/sda2 /mnt/win
[08:38] <spanky_> except i meant to sat ntfs
[08:38] <PatrikJohansson> mickey just write as you did
[08:38] <dooglus> spanky_: ntfs
[08:38] <ssam> Buddha|, you should probably reinstall ubuntu-desktop before you up date to the next ubuntu in 6 months
[08:38] <mustard5> Buddha|, if it removes the ubuntu meta package ....just make sure you reinstall it before doing a distribution uprade like Hoary to Breezy
[08:38] <renani_> and under: system->user->keyboard I still see the other language
[08:38] <starscalling> ok
[08:38] <ssam> Buddha|, ubuntu-desktop make sure that all the things you need get installed
[08:38] <Nick_Hill> Paradoxx, mickey Redhammer_the_Ol Windows file systems don't have the same user and group ID mapping as Unix type file systems. If you mount a windows file system (eg NTFS or Fat), it will, by default, set all files to owner root. You may then not be able to access the files...
[08:38] <dooglus> spanky_: do you have a space between uid= and gid=?  'cos you shouldn't
[08:39] <starscalling> apparently i need all glib gtk and g++ and xmms headers
[08:39] <ssam> Buddha|, once they are installed you can remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, Sorry, you not Paradoxx
[08:39] <starscalling> where can i go to do that?
[08:39] <tronder> I have Ubuntu breezy on a mac mini, but the sound level is LOUD. And I cannot adjust it. What can be wrong?
[08:39] <Redhammer_the_Ol> @Nick_Hill I realise that
[08:39] <mickey> Nick_hill is there an easy way to change from root to my ownership?
[08:39] <johnny_> is nv the driver name for nvidia drivers?
[08:39] <spanky_> dooglus: yes
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, how do i cahnge that??
[08:39] <sophacles> hi all. why is it when i put the ubuntu install disk into my computer and boot it, it gets taken to a dr-dos prompt?
[08:39] <Redhammer_the_Ol> @Nick that was a Copy Paste Typo by me - but thanks
[08:39] <mustard5> johnny_, no
[08:39] <dooglus> spanky_: remove it then.  the options must all be run together
[08:39] <ssam> tronder, right click ()
[08:39] <marsh> Is the sound problems part of the 'restricted' page (that says it's for Hoary' still relevent for Breezy?
[08:39] <ssam> tronder, right click (f12) on the volum control
[08:39] <sophacles> never mid
[08:40] <johnny_> im tyring to fix my resoltion and a command iam running is asking me to select a driver.
[08:40] <tronder> ok
[08:40] <sophacles> never mind.
[08:40] <johnny_> from some list of drivers
[08:40] <mustard5> johnny_, thats the default fallback drivers I think....
[08:40] <tombs> hi all
[08:40] <ssam> tronder,  and go to open volume control
[08:40] <johnny_> i have a nvidia geforce 4 mx intergrated video card.
[08:40] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson Unless you give mount a very specific set of instructions, it will read it's instructions from /etc/fstab. Assuming you are using the instructions in fstab...
[08:40] <pedja> renani_: have you read release notes for Breezy?
[08:40] <mustard5> johnny_, I'm pretty sure they are labeled 'nvidia'
[08:40] <tronder> been there offcourse :)
[08:40] <spanky_> dooglus: no commas?
[08:40] <ssam> tronder, then go to prefferences in the volume control and click everything on
[08:40] <Redhammer_the_ol> so if I change fstab I should be okay?
[08:40] <johnny_> nvidia isnt a choice here.
[08:40] <tronder> ok
[08:40] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill what do i write in fstab
[08:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell johnny_ about nvidia
[08:40] <johnny_> im having that problem with my resoltion being stuck at 640 x 480 thats what im trying to fix.
[08:40] <mickey> nick_hill I'm probably not I've never heard of fstab
[08:41] <ssam> tronder, now fiddle around with all the levels
[08:41] <dan_> I'm trying to use the 8x16 font in gnome-terminal, but it's not working. I have xfonts-konsole installed...
[08:41] <nalioth> johnny_: did you try the VESA driver?
[08:41] <mickey> nick_hill this kind of stuff is what ran me off of linux last time :-)
[08:41] <johnny_> no i dont know what that is.
[08:41] <dan_> ...and I'm trying to use fontconfig. Not working. Suggestions?
[08:41] <johnny_> i just installed ubuntu first time last night.
[08:41] <dooglus> spanky_: commas, but no spaces
[08:41] <nalioth> dan_: install all your xfonts. konsole is a kde terminal emulator
[08:41] <chapeaurouge> when you mount a removable media, icons dont show on the desktop anymore?
[08:41] <johnny_> but my resolution is broke.
[08:41] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson  you will need to put spoecific mount optionsin the 4th column of FStab, on the line which corresponds to your mount point.
[08:41] <InitMass> is it possible to queue files in rhythmbox?
[08:41] <dan_> I don't use konsole, just the 8x16 font provided in xfonts-konsole.
[08:42] <maclonki> hi all, anyone got some hints for me? my ubuntu install seems to hang on inserting the ide-cde
[08:42] <maclonki> -e
[08:42] <donato_1> ciao sono un nuovo arrivato
[08:42] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill what optione??
[08:42] <starscalling> nalioth: what packages ensure i have headers for xmms glib gtk g++ ?
[08:42] <mickey> nick_hill and where is fstab
[08:42] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson So, if you are mounting an ntfs file system, your 4th column could look like this:
[08:42] <tony_> pls need to know where i can get gtk-sharp2 for hoary!
[08:42] <donato_1> do not speak english
[08:42] <PatrikJohansson> mickey: /etc/fstab
[08:42] <nalioth> starscalling: if you run "apt-get build-dep pkgname" that should fix you up
[08:43] <nalioth> donato_1: que idioma?
[08:43] <donato_1> speak italian language
[08:43] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson  defaults,noauto,user,umask=022,uid=1000
[08:43] <nalioth> !ita
[08:43] <ubotu> I guess ita is italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[08:43] <salvo> si
[08:43] <spanky_> dooglus: root@Spanky:/# mount -t ntfs -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx /dev/sda2 /mnt/win
[08:43] <spanky_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[08:43] <spanky_>        missing codepage or other error
[08:43] <spanky_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:43] <spanky_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:43] <mickey> patrikjohansson open that from terminal? When I do it says permission denied
[08:43] <tronder> ssam, all are marked, but only PCM and Beep have levelers. The rest appears as switches (wtf?) Either way it doesnt help
[08:43] <mustard5> seife, no luck finding it
[08:44] <salvo> ciao
[08:44] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson that is assuming your user ID is 1000, which is what kubuntu 5.10 uses by default, and probably Ubuntu, as well, for the first user account.
[08:44] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:44] <donato_1> ho istallata per la prima volta linux e queste sono tutte cose nuove
[08:44] <salvo> anche io
[08:44] <chapeaurouge> when you mount a removable media, icons dont show on the desktop anymore?
[08:44] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, im gonna try that and then reboot brb
[08:44] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson  Going to have dinner now.
[08:44] <salvo> e non so da dove iniziare
[08:44] <mickey> patrikjohansson thanks in there now
[08:44] <nalioth> salvo: can you and donato_1 go to #ubuntu-it, please?
[08:45] <donato_1> sto provando i vari applicativi
[08:45] <feugan3333> Hi all. I'm having a problem with apt-get/synaptic. Error: Couldn't stat source package list http://za.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages
[08:45] <mickey> nick_hill thanks for the help, now that I"m caught up I'll try to figure it out with patrik hopefully
[08:45] <feugan3333> Any ideas?
[08:45] <mustard5> mickey, patrick is rebooting I think
[08:45] <mickey> mustard5 thanks
[08:45] <marsh> that a no? I having sound problems - everything tells me that it's ijmpossible to construct pipelines to the sound system
[08:45] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill: thx alot
[08:45] <marsh> anyone know why?
[08:45] <lampshade> Hey peeps
[08:46] <donato_1> praticamente  come una chat di explorer
[08:46] <PatrikJohansson> now im rebooting :D
[08:46] <chapeaurouge> when you mount a removable media, icons dont show on the desktop anymore?
[08:46] <mustard5> marsh, hoary or breezy?
[08:46] <K-Rich> Note: the help provided for the services app (system>administration>services) shows a different app
[08:46] <jgerber> anyone have any luck with qt4 and ubuntu? i am new to ubuntu, but I used the package manager to get the qt4-dev package... and I cannot find qmake.....
[08:46] <starscalling> thanx nalioth .. its a perl package though: Xmms::Remote
[08:46] <marsh> mustard5, hoary updated to breezy
[08:46] <marty__> hey everyone, I'm having some trouble running beagled
[08:47] <K-Rich> no way to stop lvm or raid suppport there :/
[08:47] <Baldev> Nothing ever works in Linux... :/
[08:47] <nalioth> donato_1: #ubuntu-it esta por italiano, por favor
[08:47] <marsh> fresh hoary install updated to breezy, mustard5
[08:47] <mustard5> marsh, k..just checking its not usual hoary sound problems
[08:47] <Baldev> I can't compile, because I don't have g----------anything.
[08:47] <mustard5> marsh, I'm not sure about breezy issues
[08:47] <nalioth> starscalling: there is a fantastic perl plugin called "cpan". it's like apt-get only for perl modules
[08:47] <Baldev> And in order to get gtk+, and glib, as a few examples, I need to compile sources
[08:47] <feugan3333> In which package is the 'make' command?
[08:47] <nalioth> Baldev: install 'build-essential'
[08:47] <marty__> I'm told that I need libglib2-deg
[08:47] <Baldev> hrm
[08:47] <Baldev> Ok
[08:47] <marty__> dev
[08:47] <starscalling> yeah i have that in nalioth and i get errors..
[08:48] <tronder> ANYone out there who can help? Ubuntu Breezy gives me LOUD sound level. Sound level cannot be adjusted :(
[08:48] <mustard5> feugan3333, build-essential
[08:48] <jgerber> why is the qt4 package so incomplete?
[08:48] <nalioth> starscalling: did you go to cpan.org and d/l direct?
[08:48] <feugan3333> mustard5: thx
[08:48] <PatrikJohansson> im back
[08:48] <starscalling> no i used the local package
[08:48] <mustard5> wb PatrikJohansson :)
[08:48] <spudse> is real player for linux opensource ?
[08:48] <marsh> mustard5, the multimedia sound selector also reports pipeline probs. I'm pretty sure it was there with the hoary install, before the dist-upgrade
[08:48] <starscalling> and told it to install it
[08:48] <mickey> PatrikJohansson did it work?
[08:48] <PatrikJohansson> yes it did
[08:48] <starscalling> then it said it had dependancies so i told it to use those
[08:48] <mustard5> yay!
[08:49] <starscalling> *install those
[08:49] <PatrikJohansson> yeah
[08:49] <starscalling> and it started to but hiccuped :P
[08:49] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, you tried it yet??
[08:49] <starscalling> and looking at a link on this
[08:49] <mustard5> well done PatrikJohansson , perseverance wins the day
[08:49] <mickey> PatrikJohansson ok so writing that value after the default line in the 4th column on all the hd is what you need to do right?
[08:49] <nalioth> starscalling: between direct d/l and cpan you should find the right combo
[08:49] <starscalling> i found i needed the xmms gtk gdk g++ headers
[08:49] <lampshade> jgerber:  ummm  it might be in  a different package, I seem to have a faint memory of it being in a different package than the dev.  If not that I would look around on the local machine some more.  I once installed the wxPython stuff and was confused because nothing worked. Nothing worked because it came downloaded tarred and gunzipped.  Once I tar -xvhf everything it worked fine.  I can't answer your question directly though cause I havne't playe
[08:49] <starscalling> k
[08:49] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, wait a bit and ill show you
[08:49] <mustard5> marsh, I'm not good with sound problems
[08:50] <marsh> is anyone good with sound problems?
[08:50] <mickey> PatrikJohansson k thanks
[08:50] <marsh> ok thanks mustard5
[08:50] <PatrikJohansson> mickey my line :    /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,noauto,user,umask=022,uid=1000
[08:50] <tronder> I have a good sound problem here
[08:50] <madcat_1212> nick hill: mount -t ntfs -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx /dev/sda2 /mnt/win
[08:50] <madcat_1212> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[08:50] <madcat_1212>        missing codepage or other error
[08:50] <madcat_1212>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:50] <madcat_1212>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:50] <mustard5> marsh, find a more specific description of the problem if you can
[08:50] <PatrikJohansson> mickey sry ::::   /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,noauto,user,umask=022,uid=1000     0       0
[08:50] <jgerber> lampshade: when i installed the qt4-dev package, i also installed all of the dependencies.... but i cant find it anywhere.....
[08:50] <mustard5> marsh, easier for ppl to decide whether they know how to help you
[08:51] <jgerber> lampshade:where does one look online for contents of ubuntu packages?
[08:51] <lampshade> jgerber:  Hrmm lemme just install it see if I can find anything real quick
[08:51] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: preservance???
[08:51] <jgerber> lampshade:thanks a bunch... its in the universe
[08:51] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, doh..typo :D
[08:51] <badei> plss
[08:51] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: ??
[08:51] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, perseverance
[08:51] <mickey> PatrikJohansson k so onec its in one needs to reboot right?
[08:51] <tronder> arrgh
[08:51] <tiglionabbit> w00t, I've upgraded to breezy.  Is there anywhere I can check for a big changelog of the things that are different from hoary now?
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> mickey yeah did you see i changed it to this ...... /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,noauto,user,umask=022,uid=1000     0       0
[08:52] <honeyzzz> !tell honeyzzz about w32codecs
[08:52] <badei> Plss give me a link to download firestarter(Normal download not app-get...)
[08:52] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, hanging in there :D
[08:52] <Baldev> God damnit!!
[08:52] <Baldev> I installed it
[08:52] <Baldev> and now I go to compile xmms
[08:52] <mustard5> never mind :D  its not important
[08:52] <Baldev> But no..  configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[08:52] <Xygamma> i love to entertain zou !
[08:52] <feugan3333> Does someone know the format of source.list or prepared to send me their source.list file?
[08:52] <mickey> patrikjohansson yeah
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: hehe yeah, im from sweden , doh :D
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: i get it now
[08:52] <madcat_1212> what is wrong with this ???
[08:52] <madcat_1212> root@Spanky:/# mount -t ntfs -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx /dev/sda2 /mnt/win
[08:52] <madcat_1212> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[08:52] <madcat_1212>        missing codepage or other error
[08:52] <madcat_1212>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:52] <mickey> be right back
[08:52] <madcat_1212>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> mickey good luck
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: make sure you have the glib -dev file if you want to compile
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> er, package
[08:53] <badei> Plss give me a link to download firestarter(Normal download not app-get...)
[08:53] <marsh> thats just it though, mustard5, Im getting ubuntu sound/beeps, but nothing else seems to be able to  access the sound card, totem goes through the motions, but no sound, and rhythmbox just refuses to play. it claims it can't make a pipeline to the sound card
[08:53] <zcat[1] > leave out -t ntfs -- it'll autodetect it anyhow..
[08:53] <Baldev> It isn't in my repositories
[08:53] <Baldev> I have a glib-doc
[08:53] <Baldev> but no glib
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> it will be
[08:53] <mustard5> badei, apt-get is the normal way
[08:53] <Baldev> :|
[08:53] <Baldev> No, it isn't
[08:53] <Baldev> :/
[08:53] <Baldev> It never was
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> it's probably called libglib.  lemme search a sec
[08:53] <badei> my aptget is not working!!!!
[08:53] <Baldev> k ;/
[08:54] <nalioth> madcat_1212: did you not get reminded whallago about pasting in here?
[08:54] <badei> mustard5 my apt-get is not working
[08:54] <mustard5> badei, perhaps you can fix it?
[08:54] <DarthFrog> badei: Spank it! :-)
[08:54] <PatrikJohansson> now i just need to get some kind of windows emulator working, but how will that work if i only have ro rights on ntfs, do i need to keep the win progs on linux partitions???
[08:54] <Xygamma> three times the same piece of PHP code...
[08:54] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, yes..fake windows directory
[08:54] <madcat_1212> i no nothing about pasting
[08:54] <DarthFrog> PatrikJohansson: Try a VFAT partition, instead of NTFS.
[08:54] <tronder> Ubuntu Breezy gives me LOUD sound level. Sound level cannot be adjusted. Help!
[08:54] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, wine config tools will set it up
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> you normally use wine. and install the programs with wine.. no windows partition, or files needed at all.
[08:54] <nalioth> madcat_1212: read the topic, please. do not paste in this channel, use #flood or a pastebin
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: try libglib2.0-dev
[08:55] <onur> Question: Where can i get support about OpenOffice ?
[08:55] <Baldev> k..
[08:55] <Xygamma> wine emulates near perfectly windows
[08:55] <cajones> yum.  wine!
[08:55] <madcat_1212> what is a pastebin
[08:55] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: im on it :D, too bad i have to go to school tomorrow :D
[08:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell madcat_1212 about pastebin
[08:55] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, you probably need a vfat partition anyway :D
[08:55] <Baldev> wine dosen't work for me . :(
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> Xygamma,  welll... :P i wouldent go that far.. :P
[08:55] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: k
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> anyone have a guide for how to get xwine from cvs?
[08:55] <DarthFrog> !tell madcat_1212 about pastebin
[08:55] <InitMass> what does this mean? ** (process:21431): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[08:55] <InitMass> . i get it almost every time i install something new
[08:55] <mustard5> Baldev, same here atm...can't get winetools in the repo
[08:56] <johnny_> OMG WOOT!
[08:56] <mickey> ok I must have did something wrong
[08:56] <johnny_> Resolution problem finally fixed.
[08:56] <mickey> now I'm not showing any drives on the desktop
[08:56] <johnny_> thanks everyone who helped me.
[08:56] <johnny_> going to that nvidia page did the trick the other ones werent that good.
[08:56] <madcat_1212> !tell madcat_1212 about #flood
[08:56] <tiglionabbit> mickey: to see drives, go to system->admin->disks
[08:56] <Baldev> Well same here with that
[08:56] <Baldev> But I've had less luck.
[08:56] <nalioth> madcat_1212: #flood is a channel on freenode. type /j #flood
[08:56] <Baldev> I'm under the impression that linux/ubuntu hates me.
[08:57] <Baldev> It. Never. Works. Without. Incident.
[08:57] <tiglionabbit> what didn't work?
[08:57] <nalioth> Baldev: that's what makes it fun
[08:57] <mustard5> :)
[08:57] <johnny_> yay it works woot
[08:57] <Baldev> Not when you can't get it to run ever, nalioth.
[08:57] <johnny_> hunting down such a simple resolution problem was actually a challenge =( i feel like a dumbass
[08:57] <onur> Question: Where can i get support about OpenOffice ?
[08:57] <Baldev> Not when you can't get your compiler to work.
[08:57] <mickey> tiglionabbit I see them through that method but how do I access them?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> tiglionabbit,  you mean 'winex' ? its been renamed to Cedega
[08:57] <daved-> what's the preferred linux replacement for quicken or ms money?
[08:57] <Baldev> When you cant compile sources
[08:57] <nalioth> Baldev: build-essential didnt get you a compiler?
[08:57] <Baldev> I already had a compiler
[08:57] <tiglionabbit> mickey: use that method to mount them, so that you can access them from the filesystem
[08:58] <Baldev> but it wasn't working properl
[08:58] <nalioth> daved-: gnucash
[08:58] <Baldev> and I don't know why
[08:58] <badei> hey
[08:58] <nalioth> Baldev: did you paste any errors?
[08:58] <badei> is google website down????????????
[08:58] <Baldev> There were no errors in the install
[08:58] <Baldev> Same problem before and after
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> google is not down as far as i can tell
[08:58] <madcat_1212> ! tell madcat 1212 about pastebin
[08:58] <ubotu> madcat_1212: Wish i knew
[08:58] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, any success??
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: compiling things isn't for n00bs.  You should be happy with apt until you feel adventurous enough to do that.  Apt can compile things too, ya know
[08:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell madcat_1212 about msgthebot
[08:59] <Baldev> I know how to compile.
[08:59] <Baldev> It isn't working.
[08:59] <mickey> PatrikJohansson now they are missing from the desktop
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> what's wrong then?
[08:59] <mickey> PatrikJohansson so can't tell
[08:59] <badei> www.google.com
[08:59] <Baldev> I can tell it what to do the right way, but if it dosen't do it, then what am I to do...
[08:59] <badei> it is not working to me
[08:59] <Baldev> I already showed you..
[08:59] <badei> they banned me :))
[08:59] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, click places and computer, than the partition
[08:59] <badei> i flooded their site :P
[08:59] <madcat_1212> nalioth: you seem to know a little about linux correct?
[08:59] <Baldev> *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[08:59] <badei> with so much stupid searches
[09:00] <mustard5> mickey they would be accessible through nautilus I would think though
[09:00] <Nick_Hill> I'm back. any success with the NTFS mounts?
[09:00] <Xygamma> use boot manager
[09:00] <mickey> PatrikJohansson mustard5 I think I might have messed up the line or something
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: and then I told you to install that, and it works now, right?
[09:00] <Baldev> No. It dosen't.
[09:00] <Baldev> It was already installed.
[09:00] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: no, i havnt had any success
[09:00] <mustard5> mickey use the pastebin to show us your fstab file
[09:00] <LaserLine> Karhuton Why when I press CTL+ALT+BKSP gdm doesn't re-appear ? the only time it worked was after typing sync; sync; sync; in terminal...?
[09:00] <daved-> nalioth: wow.. that's a pretty craptastic replacement that is nothing like either quicken or ms money
[09:00] <Xygamma> i installed metalgearsolid2 dvd on fat32 LOL
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> okay, try libglib1.2-dev then
[09:00] <PatrikJohansson> mickey, paste it??
[09:00] <mustard5> !tell mickey about the pastebin
[09:00] <mickey> mustard5 is pastebin different from just copy and paste?
[09:00] <lampshade> jgerber:  I'm guessing you already installed qt4-dev-tools, right?  It is weird... when I apt-cache search for qmake the only things that come up are for qt3....  :-/
[09:00] <PatrikJohansson> brb
[09:00] <mustard5> yes
[09:01] <cheemp> what is the dev package for zlib ? i need zlib.h
[09:01] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, What have you done so far?
[09:01] <mustard5> no pasting in here :)
[09:01] <PatrikJohansson> mickey BRb, shower
[09:01] <Baldev> tiglionabbit
[09:01] <Baldev> that's also installed
[09:01] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5 : hehe alitle is ok right??
[09:01] <mustard5> mickey, ubotu should have instructions for you in a pm
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> zlibg-dev I believe, cheemp, but I'm not sure
[09:01] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: ive managed to mount it, but i cant get the options to work the uid=xxx,gid=xxx   im just not familular with the console syntax
[09:01] <Karhuton> LaserLine, if it doesn't re-appear, it's because your xorg.conf had something wrong with it.
[09:01] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, one line is ok
[09:01] <jgerber> lampshade:yup
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> ubotu info zlib1g-dev
[09:01] <mickey> mustard5 no pm's are shoing
[09:01] <ubotu> zlib1g-dev: (compression library - development), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 394 kB, Installed size: 576 kB
[09:01] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Do you know where your mount point is?
[09:02] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, it makes the channel move to fast for others to read
[09:02] <LaserLine> Karhuton it's exactly as it is in the wiki....
[09:02] <Karhuton> LaserLine, pressing ctrl+alt+backspace is same as doing: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:02] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: mnt/win?
[09:02] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Open a console.
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: brb gonna take a shower
[09:02] <mustard5> mickey k
[09:02] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: its open
[09:02] <Sionide> gimme reasons why slackware isn't as good as ubuntu
[09:02] <mustard5> !pastebin
[09:02] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:02] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, type cd /mnt/win
[09:02] <nalioth> daved-: craptastic or not, it's all i know
[09:02] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I don't use the ubuntu fglrx packages
[09:02] <Karhuton> LaserLine, Haven't read the wiki
[09:02] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: ok
[09:02] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, then type ls -l
[09:02] <jgerber> lampshade:my primary gui toolkit right now is qt4.0... i am doing some dev at work on it and wanted a laptop distro that I could do dev on.....
[09:02] <LaserLine> Karhuton when i did that /init.d it worked...
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: well then I don't know.  Wat's the thing you're compiling anyway?
[09:03] <mustard5> mickey did you see ubotu's answer in this channel?
[09:03] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, you may see lines like: -rw-r--r--   1 root   root       645 2005-09-11 10:36 xinetd
[09:03] <LaserLine> Karhuton so why isn't it working with ctl+alt+bksp ?
[09:03] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: i unmounted the drive so that i could remount itwith the options, do u want me to mount the drive again with no options before procedding?
[09:03] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I don't know. It should
[09:03] <Nick_Hill> type mount .
[09:03] <jgerber> lampshade: thanks
[09:03] <Nick_Hill> with a period
[09:03] <Syruss> when I plug in my mobile phone that works as a usb hard disk...I get this:
[09:03] <Syruss> Oct 16 20:02:03 localhost kernel: [4505847.874000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[09:03] <mickey> mustard5 did it
[09:03] <mickey> its under mickey
[09:04] <Syruss> and things I write to the phone are a bit.....corrupt
[09:04] <mustard5> paste the URL to the page in here
[09:04] <mustard5> mickey paste the URL to the page in here
[09:04] <Syruss> any ideas what it could be?
[09:04] <cheemp> tiglionabbit, close enough, zlib1g-dev  seens to work :)
[09:04] <mickey> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3202
[09:04] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, That should mount the drive. Then do ls -l
[09:04] <Baldev> tiglionabbit, xmms?
[09:04] <Baldev> gaim?
[09:04] <Syruss> i.e - how can I change the character set
[09:04] <mustard5> mickey thanks
[09:04] <Baldev> gtk?
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> cheemp: yeah, I figured that out and made ubotu say it for ya
[09:04] <mickey> mustard5 thank you
[09:04] <total_assault> hey
[09:04] <lampshade> jgerber:  yeah, sorry I couldn't be more help... never touched qt4 before or anything...  I'm betting it is there or something but just... I don't know lol hidden or in another package or something...  might want to hit up some forums for ubuntu or something see if you can catch someone who knows more than me
[09:05] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: alright i typed that line, but im not seeing any lines like u mentioned above, just some of my windows folders
[09:05] <tuxuntu> Hello! I can't get glx with nvidia to work (glxgears is slow) but glxinfo | grep render shows direct rendering enabled?!
[09:05] <Syruss> maybe I should add it to fstab rather than just relying on hal
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: hmm, I would suggest you try installing beep-media-player instead, as it is pretty much xmms, but people here have had more luck with it
[09:05] <total_assault> I have two probelms, 1 I can't play dvds when I try either ogle closes or xine says can't play what libraries do I need?
[09:05] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, fine. but if you type ls -l including the -l
[09:05] <cheemp> tiglionabbit, oh yeah that's neat :)
[09:05] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, you will get a line similar to what I pasted
[09:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell total_assault about dvd
[09:05] <mustard5> can someone look at mickey's fstab output at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3202 and see if it is ok?
[09:05] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: that is what i typed, i typed ls -l
[09:06] <mickey> you all are my heros
[09:06] <Nick_Hill> Can you see lines starting with d
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> total_assault: you need libdvdcss2, which is documented in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:06] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, can you see a series of lines starting with d and -
[09:06] <mustard5> mickey so your trying to get the drives to appear on your desktop by putting them in /media?
[09:07] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: yes
[09:07] <mickey> mustard5 I just want to access those files from the linux os
[09:07] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, paste a line here
[09:07] <mustard5> ah ok
[09:07] <total_assault> tiglionabbit: i think i have it installed let me try to install it again real quick, btw i have amd64 version will that make a difference?
[09:07] <mickey> mustard5 I can't get any pdfs or anything
[09:07] <mustard5> which particular partitions?  the windows ones?
[09:07] <LaserLine> Karhuton it's wierd, from the gdm screen i'm able to restart X
[09:07] <mickey> mustard5 I'm also guessing this is why I can't play my mp3's
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> total_assault: yeah it might.  And, oddly enough I don't see that package listed on restricted anymore
[09:07] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: never mind, i was looking at the wrong placce, i see the mentioned lines from before, -r--------  1 root root   27539706 Oct 15 08:34 AVG7DB_F.DAT
[09:07] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: what pkg is that?
[09:07] <mickey> mustard5 yeah, I'm a windows user trying to switch over
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: libdvdcss2
[09:08] <tony_> pls need to know where i can get package gtk-sharp2 for hoary!
[09:08] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Good. This tells me the files on that file system can only be read by root.
[09:08] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: not in hoary-extras?
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> have things changed, nalioth?  or are they hiding it for legal reasons
[09:08] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, now type the following:
[09:08] <Nick_Hill> cd ..
[09:08] <Nick_Hill> umount win
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: nah I meant on the wiki
[09:08] <mustard5> mickey, I wondering whether you have to mark the ntfs partions as read only
[09:08] <Karhuton> LaserLine: gdm = X
[09:08] <Baldev> Fucking excellent.
[09:08] <mustard5> mickey I just don't know the procedure
[09:08] <anindya> mickey can you try mouting one of your windows drive from terminal to see it works or not
[09:08] <Baldev> I go to download the BMPx, and the repository dosen't work.
[09:09] <Baldev> Once again, thx linux.
[09:09] <mickey> anindya sure just please tell me how, I'm about an hour old at all this
[09:09] <mustard5> mickey can you access the vfat partition?
[09:09] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Are you as root?
[09:09] <Xygamma> beunos muchachos !
[09:09] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: yup
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> Baldev: it worked for us.  You're doing it wrong
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> =P
[09:09] <ubuntu> What is the best site for free windows tutorials?
[09:09] <mickey> mustard5 how should I try doing that?
[09:09] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Did you type those commands?
[09:09] <Baldev> :'(
[09:09] <Xygamma> windows4you
[09:09] <ubuntu> Linux Tutorials...
[09:09] <Xygamma> linux4you
[09:09] <mustard5> just open up file browser and go to /media/somedrive
[09:10] <mustard5> just open up file browser and go to /media/somevfatdrive I should say
[09:10] <mustard5> whichever one it is
[09:10] <raingrove> h
[09:10] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu: grab the rute user's guide off apt.  It's called rutebook
[09:10] <tronder> Ubuntu Breezy gives me LOUD sound level. Sound level cannot be adjusted. Help!
[09:10] <anindya> mickey create a dir under /mnt
[09:10] <total_assault> apt-get says gpg error public key missing :(
[09:10] <Baldev> Besides
[09:10] <Baldev> I can't compile anything
[09:10] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Did you type those commands?
[09:10] <ubuntu> Where can I find some great free Linux tutorials?
[09:10] <Baldev> Glib dosen't work.
[09:10] <mickey> mustard5 on the left I see home, desktop, file system
[09:10] <anindya> go to term login with root
[09:10] <mustard5> there is a file browser in application>>accessories btw
[09:10] <DarthFrog> tronder: Turn down your speakers.
[09:10] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: yes
[09:10] <Xygamma> javac++
[09:10] <pullmyfin> ok
[09:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ubuntu about cli
[09:10] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: the umount?
[09:10] <anindya> mkdir /mnt/something
[09:11] <anindya> then
[09:11] <mustard5> choose filesystem
[09:11] <pullmyfin> i managed to install it
[09:11] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, yes
[09:11] <pullmyfin> but now, when it starts up, the screen is all messed up
[09:11] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, now type nano /etc/fstab
[09:11] <anindya> mont /dev/whatisappropriate /mnt/thediryoucreated
[09:11] <mustard5> you should be in your root directory then
[09:11] <mustard5> and you can then go to /media
[09:11] <pullmyfin> mustard5...
[09:11] <pullmyfin> dude
[09:11] <Neerlan_Amorim> how to for update hoary to breezy?
[09:11] <mustard5> pullmyfin, yeah?
[09:11] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: im there
[09:11] <pullmyfin> mustard5...i managed to install it.
[09:11] <mustard5> now you have to write the HOW TO pullmyfin ;)
[09:11] <mustard5> hehe
[09:12] <Baldev> I figure I might as well get the 5.10 Update before I go trying to fix all this other crap.
[09:12] <pullmyfin> mustard5...now, when i boot, the screen is messed up
[09:12] <mustard5> what was the issue?
[09:12] <mickey> mustard5 they are all empty when they open
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> Neerlan_Amorim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%29
[09:12] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, find the line which mentions /mnt/win. Look at the 4th column. What does it say?
[09:12] <LaserLine> Karhuton I know... that's why I'm asking you. i don't think it's driver issue... becasue when I type the sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart it works perfectly.
[09:12] <pullmyfin> mustard5...after i choose ubuntu from grub,
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> oops, you can delete the hilight part there https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:12] <Xygamma> linux thingies
[09:12] <mickey> anindya doing your way will fix my problem do you think?
[09:13] <mickey> anindya will need to try and find those directions if so :-)
[09:13] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: I dont see such a line
[09:13] <feugan3333> Is there an easy way to install perl modules, or do I need to download/untar/make/make install?
[09:13] <mustard5> mickey have you created directories matching the names you gave in fstab in /media?
[09:13] <anindya> try it if that works then this way will work
[09:13] <anindya> make sure you have created those folders under media
[09:13] <pullmyfin> anyone?
[09:13] <mickey> mustard5 no
[09:13] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, It may say something like /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs ...
[09:13] <mustard5> mickey for example /media/hda2
[09:14] <mustard5> ok
[09:14] <mickey> mustard5 I'm sorry please bear with me
[09:14] <Neerlan_Amorim> tiglionabbit, thanks
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> feugan3333: just a guess, but could you want the packages on apt with names ending in -perl ?
[09:14] <mustard5> mickey np
[09:14] <Xygamma> hda1=c
[09:14] <mickey> mustard5 the folders are showing up
[09:14] <mickey> mustard5 hdb1 and so forth are there
[09:14] <pullmyfin> mustard5...bear with me as well. im somewhat of a noob
[09:14] <mustard5> in /media?
[09:14] <mustard5> k
[09:14] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: there is no mention of sda2, which is my ntfs partition
[09:14] <anindya> yes
[09:14] <mickey> mustard5 they are just not showing anything when I open them
[09:14] <nalioth> feugan3333: install the cpan module using apt-get . the cpan module can then be used to get modules from cpan.org
[09:14] <zenlunatic> how do i use a theme that i built from source?
[09:15] <mustard5> I'm not sure about your problem yet pullmyfin ...you might have to do some configuring of xorg  dont know
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> zenlunatic: can you drag it into the theme window?
[09:15] <mustard5> mickey...k
[09:15] <pullmyfin> xorg?
[09:15] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, can you see /mnt/win in the second column of any line?
[09:15] <zenlunatic> tiglionabbit, drag what?
[09:15] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: no
[09:15] <mustard5> pullmyfin, I'l just finish with mickey  one tick
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> zenlunatic: your theme tarball
[09:15] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: its not there i assure you
[09:15] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Do any lines in there mention ntfs?
[09:15] <feugan3333> nalioth: cool, thx
[09:16] <zenlunatic> tiglionabbit, there is no tarball
[09:16] <mustard5> mickey what about the vfat one?
[09:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Nick_Hill about ntfs
[09:16] <Matyas69> hi there
[09:16] <anindya> mickey have you restarted after you modified fstab?
[09:16] <mickey> anindya yes
[09:16] <PatrikJohansson> wich win emulator should i use????
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> zenlunatic: I'm not really sure what you're dealing with then, sorry =[
[09:16] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: no, only ext2, and vfat, which are the partitions for the drivers for this computers...the dell partitions
[09:16] <anindya> did it give any error while booting?
[09:16] <mustard5> anindya, his fstab is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3202
[09:16] <mickey> anindya this is what took the icons off my desktop, they were there before, I just couldn't access them
[09:16] <anindya> yes mustard I have seen it
[09:16] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: and ext2 obviously for linux
[09:16] <mustard5> k
[09:17] <Cryptid> How do i install .bin files i download realplayergold.bin so i need help in installing it
[09:17] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, V. strange. The mount command should have failed for /mnt/win if there is no line in fstab
[09:17] <mustard5> I can understand the ntfs partitions not working but I don't know why the vfat partitions is not working
[09:17] <anindya> thats why I was asking mickey to mount from terminal
[09:17] <mickey> mustard5 anindya I have available to see hda2 hda5 and hdb1
[09:17] <mustard5> ah k
[09:17] <joe_alf> mickey, take a look at this i made some correction for you --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3203
[09:17] <chasmarang> I've upgrade my hoary to breezy - now when I boot it configures two IP's and I'm not able to use the internet for anything
[09:18] <Baldev> Looks like IRC works. :] 
[09:18] <Baldev> lol jk
[09:18] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: I don't think you can.  They are likely not for linux.  In a console, say "file" followed by that filename with path, and tell me what it says
[09:18] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: is there anything i can do from here?
[09:18] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, when I asked you to do the mount command, did you do anything other than mount /mnt/win ?
[09:18] <kronus> i'm having problems with things binding to TCP-IP sockets
[09:18] <khermans> I am having pkg problems with eclipse-ecj
[09:18] <kronus> and i'm not even sure what that means
[09:18] <rage> ubuntu work woith intel pro set wireless 2200 ? (ipw2200)
[09:18] <chasmarang> Baldev: it does because I poff and pon
[09:18] <Cryptid> k wait i will do that as sooon as the download will complete
[09:18] <khermans> rage, yes
[09:18] <mickey> joe_alf should I just copy and paste all that
[09:19] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, or mount .
[09:19] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/win
[09:19] <khermans> i cant remove the pkg "eclipse-ecj"
[09:19] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: that is what i typed
[09:19] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, That explains it.
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> what does it do, khermans?
[09:19] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, ne ways i have done this before with helix player i dont rmr the command it was some chmod bhla bhla bhla ,got ne idea
[09:19] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, if mount . worked, that would imply a line in fstab
[09:19] <zenlunatic> whats the gtk development package?
[09:19] <joe_alf> mickey, no just copy the one that i modified in your fstab
[09:19] <khermans> tiglionabbit, line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse
[09:20] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!I've backuped the dir ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/xxxxxxxx.default and I have changed from Hoary to Breezy. Now I would like to copy to set up old settings.I copied xxxxxx.default to the new .mozilla-thunderbird but when I try to star thunderbird it says me that the user profile is being used by someone other.how can i do?
[09:20] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Do you still have fstab open?
[09:20] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: yes
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: if you want it to just execute, then say "chmod +x thefilename"
[09:20] <khermans> tiglionabbit, subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:20] <Matyas69> wow I never knew Ubuntu is such a popular distribution of linux!!!
[09:20] <khermans> how can I remove the package?
[09:20] <nalioth> khermans: apt-get remove pkgname
[09:20] <feugan3333> I'm getting this error when doing apt-get update: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch. Where could I find a list of repositories so the I could use another repository?
[09:20] <Nick_Hill> Then make a line like this:  /dev/sda2 /mnt/win ntfs defaults,noauto,uid=madcat,umask=022 0 0
[09:21] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Then make a line like this:  /dev/sda2 /mnt/win ntfs defaults,noauto,uid=madcat,umask=022 0 0
[09:21] <rage> where i can download some wifi search ...
[09:21] <spudse_> Where is the mozilla or firefox directory in Breezy ?
[09:21] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, where madcat is your account name
[09:21] <khermans> nalioth, that fails
[09:21] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: just type that in to the fstab
[09:21] <tiglionabbit> khermans: sounds fishy.  I don't know.  I'd assume synaptic would still get rid of it from your package list, but leave it as having leftover configuration
[09:21] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, this is what it says RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[09:21] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, yes, on it's own line
[09:21] <khermans> nalioth, dpkg: error processing eclipse-ecj (--remove):
[09:21] <PatrikJohansson> wich win emulator do you think is best to use for breezy???
[09:21] <anindya> khermans: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[09:22] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Take special note of the spaces and make sure the leading / is right at the left margin.
[09:22] <chasmarang> I've upgrade my hoary to breezy - now when I boot it configures two IP's and I'm not able to use the internet for anything
[09:22] <nalioth> khermans: paste the error, please
[09:22] <marsh> Got it! dont know what i did, but over the course of it all I have sound! :D
[09:22] <mustard5> mickey we can try running a script that might fix the problem
[09:22] <DarthFrog> chasmarang: Edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:22] <marsh> thanks guys
[09:23] <khermans> nalioth, from Synaptic and apt-get remove --> E: eclipse-ecj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:23] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, and all should be on one line.
[09:23] <madcat_1212> alright
[09:23] <madcat_1212> i entered it
[09:23] <nalioth> khermans: do you know the exact pkg name?
[09:23] <khermans> nalioth, eclipse-ecj
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: okay, then chmod +x it to make it executable, and then type ./itsname to run it.  =P
[09:23] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Once that is done, do ctrl+o ctrl+x
[09:23] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: i entered it
[09:23] <mickey> Mustard5 I'll try rebooting with Joe_alf's change
[09:23] <jgerber> uncommented some of the repositories in the sources.list and ran an apt-get update... it complained that it couldnt find some of the repositories. what gives? this is a fresh install. you would think that the sources.list would be up to date
[09:23] <mustard5> k
[09:23] <mickey> mustard5 see if that works
[09:23] <khermans> nalioth, from aptitude --> Hp  eclipse-ecj
[09:23] <mustard5> I have another option after that
[09:23] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Once back to the command line do exactly mount /mnt/win
[09:24] <mickey> cool
[09:24] <khermans> what is 'H'?
[09:24] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, by its name u mean the whole filename again
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: yeah
[09:24] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Then try ls -l /mnt/win
[09:24] <jgerber> anyone know where i can go to get a valid list of repositories?
[09:24] <khermans> Why can't I remove that pakcage?!?!
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: you can use tab to make it finish the name for you
[09:25] <khermans> I remember a similar problem back when Kubuntu was released -- a problem with one of the cripts
[09:25] <khermans> in 5.04
[09:25] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: ctrl+ o ctrl +x didnt do anything
[09:25] <nalioth> khermans: at risk of computer implosion, try dpkg -r pkgname
[09:25] <chasmarang> DarthFrog--> I showed /etc/network/interfaces to dabaR last nite there wasn't that much on it - besides I don't know what to edit
[09:25] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, holding ctrl then pressing o writes the file. holding ctrl then pressing x exits nano
[09:25] <disasm_> is it possible to change the res of usplash?
[09:25] <khermans> nalioth, why implosion?
[09:26] <nalioth> khermans: i was gonna suggest something else
[09:26] <khermans> what wil l-r do?
[09:26] <khermans> will it mess up my ssytem?
[09:26] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, its says no such file or direcotry
[09:27] <nalioth> khermans: -r is remove
[09:27] <khermans> nalioth, bu you said "risk"
[09:27] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Any progrss?
[09:27] <chasmarang> I've upgrade my hoary to breezy - now when I boot it configures two IP's and I'm not able to use the internet for anything
[09:27] <khermans> nalioth, that still didnt work
[09:27] <khermans> nalioth, /var/lib/dpkg/info/eclipse-ecj.postrm: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[09:27] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: it seems to be stuck in the nano
[09:28] <sorush20> how can I access Microsoft Outlook web access in the premium version on firefox..
[09:28] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, can you edit in nano or is the terminal frozen?
[09:28] <JimH_> hi all
[09:28] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: then you spelled it wrong, or are not looking at the right directory.  Type pwd to make it tell you where you are
[09:28] <PatrikJohansson> mickey: doed you ntfs work now??
[09:28] <JimH_> I am new here and I need some help
[09:28] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: frozen
[09:28] <nalioth> khermans: then if it's not there.. ..
[09:28] <HappyFool> JimH_: ask away
[09:28] <khermans> nalioth, well how can i remove the package -- upgrade wont work either
[09:28] <JimH_> ty
[09:29] <khermans> nalioth, can i forc e areinstall
[09:29] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, see if ctrl+s unsticks it
[09:29] <chasmarang> DarthFrog--> I showed /etc/network/interfaces to dabaR last nite there wasn't that much on it - besides I don't know what to edit
[09:29] <anindya> I am getting a very wired problem I just modified my dns server name thru network settings
[09:29] <JimH_> I am trying to run a new cd in the live cd mode how do I do that
[09:29] <Razor-X> nalioth: in this page, why does 5 stand for raising and displaying transient windows, shouldn't it be 3+0 (3) ? http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/doc/Rudeness.html
[09:29] <anindya> but after some time it goes back to previous one !
[09:29] <Necator> hi
[09:30] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Did you use nano?
[09:30] <nalioth> khermans: see "dpkg --force-help"
[09:30] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill:i forgot to press enter, i am out now
[09:30] <chasmarang> ppp runs twice configuring ppp0 and ppp1
[09:30] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, Realplayr is talking bout configuring system-wide symbolic links what do i say yes or no
[09:30] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: if you're the admin user, yes
[09:30] <HappyFool> JimH_: i don't quite understand your question
[09:30] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, Just to make sure, re-open fstab with nano
[09:30] <chasmarang> with two internet connections in network tools
[09:30] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, to check the file is as you expect.
[09:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have a list of about 10 problems in breezy..
[09:31] <mustard5> BROKEN_LADDER, hehehe
[09:31] <Necator> can someone tell me whatwhat are repositories?
[09:31] <HappyFool> JimH_: have you made the live cd already?
[09:31] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, wat is the prefix of symbolic link
[09:31] <mustard5> BROKEN_LADDER, you the king of sticky problems :D
[09:31] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: what is the command again
[09:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> when my screen locks in breezy, the password prompt now has a little face.  but it's a black guy!  how do i change this to a regular white guy like myself?
[09:31] <Nick_Hill> nano /etc/fstab
[09:31] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: however, it'll probably mess up and tell you it can't do that unless you invoke it as root.  So you um, "sudo ./thatfile"
[09:31] <occy> heh
[09:31] <HappyFool> !tell Necator about synaptic
[09:31] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: never mind, its good
[09:31] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: prefix?  You mean the letter in ls -l?  it's s
[09:31] <JimH_> I was under the impression tgat you can run the program from the disk instead of installing it
[09:31] <HappyFool> Necator: reading that should get you started
[09:31] <occy> is there an easy way to get a firewall up and going under Ubuntu?
[09:31] <HappyFool> JimH_: that's the idea
[09:32] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, /usr is the default option
[09:32] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, once back to the command line, type exactly mount /mnt/win
[09:32] <occy> I've tried webmin and it didn't seem to work just right.
[09:32] <mustard5> occy sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:32] <HappyFool> JimH_: you need to boot using the live cd
[09:32] <occy> mustard5 no X
[09:32] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, then type ls -l /mnt/win
[09:32] <xnix> occy you using ubuntu now?
[09:32] <JimH_> ok
[09:32] <mustard5> ah...sorry
[09:32] <khermans> My dpkg is all messed up because of this one eclpse package -- how can i fix it?
[09:32] <xnix> occy :D
[09:32] <occy> xnix heh, I've been using it :P
[09:32] <Razor-X> occy: have you tried using that iptables generator page that topyli gave you?
[09:32] <mustard5> occy, there is a how to in the forums on using iptables
[09:32] <nalioth> khermans: did dpkg --force-help not enlighten you?
[09:32] <occy> since Warty at least
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: oh that should be fine.  Or /usr/share
[09:32] <HappyFool> JimH_: does that make sense?
[09:32] <xnix> occy i still got debian on my desktop, but i just got my laptop  back, and i think im gonna put ubuntu on it now
[09:32] <khermans> nalioth, no it did not
[09:32] <khermans> nothing helps
[09:32] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: dr-xr-xr-x  1 spanky root          0 Oct  5 01:55 music
[09:33] <occy> xnix ubuntu++ for desktop
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> whenever i log out of my x session, now that i'm in breezy, or if i try to create a new login in a different screen, i can hear the intro sound that tells me there's a gdm there.  but i can't see anything.  the screen goes to sleep.  it used to do this even on the initial boot, but now at last that works.
[09:33] <nalioth> khermans: can you force reinstallation?
[09:33] <JimH_> yes it does but hold a min
[09:33] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: will this drive be mounted everything i start linux?
[09:33] <xnix> occy hehe awesome
[09:33] <kvidell> spanky?
[09:33] <khermans> nalioth, i guess that i am confused as to why dpkg doesnt understand that i really want this pkg gone
[09:33] <occy> iptables generator
[09:33] <Razor-X> brb, gonna flush my logs
[09:33] <khermans> nalioth, that didnt work either
[09:33] <occy> man, without X it just sucks
[09:33] <xnix> occy well if u like it its gotta be good;)
[09:33] <occy> heh
[09:33] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, You can now read the contents. It will not be auto mounted when you start. To do that, remove the noauto entry in fstab.
[09:33] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, i tried running realplayer and it gives me this error "Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: Child terminated with 146 status"
[09:33] <occy> xnix I had to do the server install on this old machine.
[09:34] <occy> :/
[09:34] <occy> hmm
[09:34] <amrlaptop> i just distupgraded to breezy, now i cant apt-get install xfce/phpmyadmin/fluxbox/blackbox - whats up?
[09:34] <amrlaptop> are the repositories broken?
[09:34] <xnix> occy why is that
[09:34] <occy> hmmmmmmmm
[09:34] <madcat_1212> Nick_Hill: thanks a lot man, ur a lifesaver :O)
[09:34] <occy> ahhh I know.
[09:34] <mustard5> amrlaptop, you checked your sources.list?
[09:34] <mwe> amrlaptop: well I recently apt-get installed fluxbox in breezy
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> Cryptid: =[
[09:34] <Nick_Hill> madcat_1212, np
[09:35] <amrlaptop> mustard5 yes
[09:35] <occy> bbl gang.
[09:35] <occy> xnix yeah, Ubuntu on the desktop rawks
[09:35] <omp> when trying to compile something i get an error saying i need GTK+-2.7 or newer
[09:35] <occy> I'd use nothing else
[09:35] <occy> bbl
[09:35] <Micky3248> Hi, I'm having some difficulties installing Zope2.7 and 2.8 with Breezy
[09:35] <seth_k|lappy> omp, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:35] <theine> With which GCC version is the stock Ubuntu kernel compiled?
[09:35] <Micky3248> I install it, but it cannot start the instances
[09:35] <seth_k|lappy> omp, then install your gtk-devel packages
[09:35] <mustard5> amrlaptop, I'm seeing fluxbox in synaptic
[09:35] <salutis> hello. i am problem with evolution. i install new breezy and my contacts are lost. i have not exported my contact list, bud i have original .evolution folder in my backup media. how i copy old contacts to new evolution?
[09:35] <DarthFrog> theine: gcc 3.4.5
[09:36] <amrlaptop> hmmm
[09:36] <JimH_> it says "completed codepage select function" under that it says NLSFUNC R4.00 at the top ... near the prompt is caldrea
[09:36] <mustard5> amrlaptop, I'd be double checking your source.list
[09:36] <theine> DarthFrog, alright, thanks
[09:36] <mustard5> you want a standard to compare?
[09:36] <siezer> hi. I keep a local debian mirror for sarge, and want to move some desktops over to ubuntu.... is it a good idea to mix the pools on the mirror?
[09:36] <JimH_> options are
[09:36] <amrlaptop> mustard5 anything i should look for?
[09:36] <PatrikJohansson> wich win emulator should i use for breezy????
[09:36] <khermans> nalioth, ok i got it working
[09:36] <mustard5> !tell amrlaptop about sources
[09:36] <chasmarang> DarthFrog --> are you there
[09:36] <khermans> nalioth, thanks dude
[09:36] <HappyFool> JimH_: if you see caldera i don't think you are booting with the ubuntu live cd
[09:36] <mustard5> look for multiverse not being ther
[09:37] <Nick_Hill> Redhammer_the_Ol, mickey PatrikJohansson If you need ntfs partition to mount at boot, remove the noauto section of the fstab line I gave
[09:37] <khermans> nalioth, needed the remove-essential option
[09:37] <HappyFool> JimH_: caldera, if i recall correctly, is what SCO used to be called
[09:37] <tony_> please need help to find package that i had before in backport(hoary)
[09:37] <nalioth> khermans: cool
[09:37] <DarthFrog> chasmarang: Occassionally.  I'm watching football. :-)
[09:37] <chasmarang> lol
[09:37] <Micky3248> do anyone have an idea of what I can do to make my zope working?
[09:37] <mustard5> amr actually it doesnt seem to be in multiverse
[09:37] <JimH_> mlx ... bl=16 ... lend=on ... delay=off
[09:38] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, it worked with the info you posted before you dinner
[09:38] <Cryptid> tiglionabbit, is there a way to uninstall this thing
[09:38] <Belutz> how do i fix my video resolution? i should be able to get 1280x800 but i'm stuck at 1280x768
[09:38] <chasmarang> DarthFrog--> I don't know what to do with etc/network/interfaces
[09:38] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, Great!
[09:38] <zenlunatic> does anyone know the name of the gtk development package? like gtk2.0-dev or something
[09:38] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill yeah im so happy now :D , thanx man
[09:38] <nalioth> zenlunatic: open synaptic and search for libgtk. choose the -dev pkg you need
[09:39] <DarthFrog> chasmarang: What two IP addresses do you get?  Are they both for the same interface?
[09:39] <spudse_> how can I search for a directory in Ubuntu ?
[09:39] <chasmarang> no two different ips
[09:39] <chasmarang> ppp0 has one ip and ppp1 has the other
[09:40] <Micky3248> so it seems that noone has an idea cu
[09:40] <mustard5> spudse, Places>>Search for files I think would work
[09:40] <SamStar> Hey :)
[09:41] <mustard5> spudse, naaah it doesnt :D
[09:41] <mustard5> just tried it
[09:41] <PatrikJohansson> does anyone know which win emulator to use in breezy??
[09:41] <mustard5> spudse, hmmm it worked this time
[09:42] <SamStar> hey, what's a good media player for ubuntu ?
[09:42] <mustard5> spudse, I managed to do it with Places>>Search
[09:42] <rodietze> xmms
[09:42] <rodietze> PatrikJohansson beep media player or xmms
[09:42] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, wine
[09:42] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, you can get a commercial version 'cedega' which has more support
[09:43] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: how do suggest i get wine??
[09:44] <mustard5> synaptic
[09:44] <topyli> SamStar: depends on the media
[09:44] <spuds> mustard5, thanks
[09:44] <loli`> hey everybody
[09:44] <topyli> SamStar: video? audio? both?
[09:44] <mustard5> spuds, np
[09:44] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: but it says its an alpha release and doesnt work so good??
[09:44] <mustard5> yes :)
[09:45] <mustard5> its ok
[09:45] <SamStar> both :)
[09:45] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: does cedega cost??
[09:45] <mustard5> not always succesful though
[09:45] <mustard5> a monthly fee I think
[09:45] <SamStar> i am a total new starter for linux :)
[09:45] <mustard5> not a great amount
[09:45] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: but i want to be able to play games
[09:45] <Madpilot> sampan: Totem can play everything, once you get the right codecs installed (which is easy)
[09:45] <mustard5> cedega supports games well
[09:45] <mustard5> wine you can fumble around with
[09:45] <mustard5> and try to make the games work
[09:45] <PatrikJohansson> ok
[09:45] <topyli> SamStar: that's harder. totem plays just about everything but it's not very good with playlists. i use totem for video and rhythmbox for audio because i have lots of music
[09:45] <loli`> How do I get rido of that graphical login when ubuntu boots? I want to start from a command line.
[09:46] <mustard5> read other peoples 'wine experiences' for advice :)
[09:46] <SamStar> oki
[09:46] <damelio> oh my god that was harder than it should have been
[09:46] <damelio> whew
[09:46] <HappyFool> loli`: disable the gdm service
[09:46] <PatrikJohansson> hmm, exactly how much does cedega cost?
[09:46] <loli`> how
[09:46] <damelio> ok mustard5 I'm up and running
[09:46] <mustard5> I'd check out the website PatrikJohansson
[09:46] <HappyFool> loli`: 'man update-rc.d' (since you're a command-line person ;)
[09:46] <topyli> SamStar: actually, totem does a good job with playliists too but i find them cumbersome in themselves :)
[09:46] <mustard5> damelio, all good?
[09:46] <loli`> lol
[09:46] <loli`> thanks
[09:46] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: yeah but im lazy :D sry
[09:46] <sector10> My processor usage is way up
[09:46] <mustard5> I'll get you the link ;)
[09:47] <SamStar> aha, oke thx :)
[09:47] <Cryptid> How do i get realplayer plugin for mozilla
[09:47] <mustard5> you relax :D
[09:47] <damelio> mustard5 it is now, and I can't remember the nick for the person who changed the info in the pastebin
[09:47] <sector10> over 80% is that normal?
[09:47] <Epix> Is it safe to compile my own kernel with the stuff i want in it for Ubuntu? Does ubuntu need lots of crap enabled to work? And how can i NOT use esd? I dont like it at all, and i would MUCH rather use ALSA.
[09:47] <nalioth> damelio: in your server list, click on "ubuntu servers" or "freenode" and click 'edit'. in the server password field, put your nickserv password
[09:47] <damelio> mustard5 this is 'micke' by the way
[09:47] <SamStar> and where can i fiend totem ? and how do i install it?
[09:47] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: im working on it :D
[09:47] <spuds> Okay, im getting messed up here. All I want to do is make firefox play embedded realplayer streams.. its seems impossible. Somebody please help me out?
[09:47] <nalioth> damelio: you can change your nick back now that you are in here
[09:47] <mustard5> hehe damelio ...I was thinking...what did I help damelio with!
[09:48] <bam_> apt-cache search 'program name'
[09:48] <sector10> spuds: install realplayer?
[09:48] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, http://www.transgaming.com/
[09:48] <PatrikJohansson> http://www.transgaming.com/
[09:48] <PatrikJohansson> damn alitle slow :D
[09:48] <linuxboy> how do I play mpeg movies in ubuntu?
[09:48] <mustard5> yep
[09:48] <topyli> Cryptid: get realplayer, and you get the plugin
[09:48] <seife> How do i get my USB headphones working?
[09:48] <mustard5> :D
[09:48] <spuds> sector10, I got RP10 up and running, even played mediastreams.
[09:48] <mustard5> my page is still loading....dialup ;)
[09:48] <spuds> sector10, But no embedded video whatshowever
[09:48] <Epix> or does ubuntu need esd to function?
[09:48] <cyphase> what's a good package for setting up a temporary file/web server?
[09:48] <damelio> nalioth will I always autolog as damelio?
[09:48] <Madpilot> linuxboy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:49] <nalioth> damelio: if that is what is in your nickname box, yes
[09:49] <sector10> spuds: ok can you play bbc sound streams?
[09:49] <linuxboy> Madpilot: shot
[09:49] <mickey> its still saying mickey is owned
[09:49] <mickey> oh well
[09:49] <spuds> sector10, one moment, I will try it out
[09:49] <sector10> try radio 1 or something
[09:49] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: i have 24mbit, so fast LOL
[09:49] <topyli> Epix: not really, but using a sound server is a good idea if you want to hear several noises at the same time
[09:50] <mickey> whoever changed my pastebin to help me in fstab thank you so much
[09:50] <mickey> I can't remember you nick though :-)
[09:50] <sector10> can someone tell me what is normal for processor usage?
[09:50] <nalioth> mickey: you'll be fine to use it until the owner wants it back
[09:50] <PatrikJohansson> hehe
[09:50] <mustard5> I'm stuck on dialup with no emulator and I am an avid gamer :D
[09:50] <mustard5> counterstrike ;)
[09:50] <cyphase> What's a good package for setting up a temporary file/web server?
[09:50] <PatrikJohansson> do you run it under linux??
[09:50] <kronus> cyphase: xammp
[09:50] <Epix> topyli: but, all too often i have to killall esd in order to get programs running
[09:50] <topyli> sector10: depends. 100% is nice when you do scientific calculations
[09:50] <sector10> individual processes does not tell me much other than grnom is using 20%
[09:50] <chasmarang> DarthFrog--> two different IP addresses - they're not the same interface - ppp0 has one ip and ppp1 has the other
[09:50] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I havent been able to yet no, but I havent put much effort into it yet
[09:50] <spuds> sector10, no I cant play sound streams (i tried bbc.co.uk/radio). Firefox says "could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the systempath to use as an embedded player"
[09:51] <mickey> now can anyone direct me to a place that is a user friendly file for how to operate linux
[09:51] <Alpha232> Is there a simple Xwindows how to? like how do i enable resolutions beyond 640x480 and 800x600?
[09:51] <mustard5> cyphase, apache?
[09:51] <cyphase> kronus, i know, but i thought maybe there was one in the repositories
[09:51] <mickey> I hate feeling so incompetent
[09:51] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: k , too bad im gonna work hard on it, do you play css or 1.6??
[09:51] <sector10> spuds: how did you install realplayer
[09:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mickey about cli
[09:51] <topyli> Epix: you have to fix your esd config or use programs that are esd aware
[09:51] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, source
[09:51] <cyphase> mustard5, temporary
[09:51] <cyphase> as in..
[09:51] <mickey> thanks nalioth
[09:51] <TestDummy> Um, I'm curious. Are USB flash drive fairly Linux-friendly overall?
[09:51] <TestDummy> I'm not sure.
[09:51] <chasmarang> DarthFrog--> two different IP addresses - they're not the same interface - ppp0 has one ip and ppp1 has the other but both are provided by Verizon
[09:51] <cyphase> i run the program, i select a folder on my desktop, it shares it until i turn it off
[09:51] <sector10> topyli: the cpu applet at top is up past 90%
[09:52] <mickey> anyone have any idea why rythmbox is telling me files aren't an audio stream?
[09:52] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: do you think it takes much power from the cpu to run it throug an emulator??
[09:52] <mustard5> cyphase, as in apache web server available through synaptic package manager in ubuntu
[09:52] <cyphase> lol, i know
[09:52] <Alpha232> Is there a simple Xwindows how to? like how do i enable resolutions beyond 640x480 and 800x600?   Please /msg me i need to step away for a few...
[09:52] <cyphase> i mean something like kpf
[09:52] <topyli> sector10: right click it, open the system monitor and see what is using it
[09:52] <cyphase> that's for kde though
[09:52] <cyphase> an applet i think
[09:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Alpha232 about fixres
[09:52] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, I hear satisfied reports of gameplay with STEAM stuff...although I think the last STEAM update broke all the non-windows stuff
[09:53] <spuds> sector10, I installed this file: RealPlayer10GOLD.bin - First I tried to use the ubuntuguide.org way, but RP8 cant be downloaded from real.com anymore
[09:53] <sector10> spuds: install realplayer from real.com
[09:53] <Epix> topyli: and, as far as building my own kernel goes, is that safe?
[09:53] <sector10> follow their instructions
[09:53] <mustard5> check steam forums for latest valve stuff ups :D
[09:53] <nalioth> spuds: the ubuntuguide is way out of date and will mangle your ubuntu
[09:53] <sector10> it will work
[09:53] <topyli> Epix: it's normal
[09:53] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: hmm hope they fix it soon... wanna go all linux :D
[09:53] <spuds> sector10, I did that, read the reply again pls :)
[09:53] <sector10> spuds: the ubuntu installer is a joke
[09:53] <necronudist> sorry is counter strike free?
[09:53] <Epix> topyli: so, i can cd /usr/src/linux, make menuconfig, etc...?
[09:53] <spuds> sector10, I installed .bin file from real.com
[09:53] <necronudist> i've seen it running on a pc at the university
[09:54] <PatrikJohansson> necronudist: no
[09:54] <necronudist> ah ok
[09:54] <sector10> spuds: did you run real player
[09:54] <necronudist> thanx
[09:54] <sector10> spuds: with firefox closed
[09:54] <mustard5> we should be talking about this in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:54] <spuds> sector10, yes I could run real player, and play streaming video/audio. Now I need to make Firefox able to use realplayer
[09:54] <sector10> thebn open firefox again
[09:54] <PatrikJohansson> necronudist: if you have hl or hl2 it is!!
[09:54] <necronudist> ah no... :(
[09:54] <cyphase> spuds, use the documentation that comes with breezy
[09:55] <sector10> spuds: have you restarted firefox?
[09:55] <spuds> sector10, I close firefox, run realplayer and then open firefox again ?
[09:55] <spuds> yes I did restart firefox
[09:55] <sector10> yes
[09:55] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5: its still about emulators in ubuntu right?+
[09:55] <mickey> next linux problem, any mp3 I try to load into rythmbox it tells me its "this file is not an audio stream"
[09:55] <TestDummy> Does anybody know if USB flash drives work okay overall in Linux or would I need to do some weird stuff to get it to work?
[09:55] <mustard5> loosely yes :D
[09:55] <mustard5> I'm cool
[09:55] <TestDummy> (Not any particular one, just overall)
[09:55] <mjr> !mp3
[09:55] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:55] <mustard5> just like to stay on the good side of mods
[09:55] <cyphase> System -> Help -> Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide
[09:55] <mjr> mickey, see ubotu
[09:55] <PatrikJohansson> mustard5, that sure is a good idea
[09:55] <sector10> spuds: did you install with sudo?
[09:56] <theintern> any suggestion of brand for DVD burners, or do they all pretty much work?
[09:56] <mjr> theintern, pretty much
[09:56] <seife> How do i get my USB headphones working?
[09:56] <mickey> mjr its got a message from nalioth
[09:56] <spuds> sector10, yes otherwise it wouldnt install anything I suppose
[09:56] <mickey> that's it
[09:56] <theintern> ok thanks mjr
[09:56] <sector10> spuds: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1_aod.shtml?radio1/nightingale
[09:56] <mustard5> seife still no luck buddy?
[09:56] <feross> anyone use the sis module? is it possible to do 3d hardware rendering with this module. I have an Asus A6U laptop but games that require 3D support don't work right and glxgears stalls.
[09:57] <chasmarang> I've upgrade from Hoary to Breezy!  When I boot it configures two IP's so I have to poff and pon to get to use the internet- they are ppp0 for one IP and ppp1 for the second IP both by Verizon online
[09:57] <LoneWolf071> what is the command line package installer/remover, i know synaptic is the GUI version, but other then apt, what is the ocmmand like version
[09:57] <mustard5> somebody help seife with his headphones :)
[09:57] <sector10> spuds: what error do you get?
[09:57] <mitchell> how do you install a tar.gz
[09:57] <seife> mustard5, no :'(
[09:57] <Madpilot> LoneWolf071: aptitude?
[09:57] <LoneWolf071> TY
[09:57] <Poly_Pusher> Hey All
[09:57] <ezrider> how can I make gdesklet run automatically at startup ?
[09:57] <spuds> sector10, in Firefox i get this error:  "could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the systempath to use as an embedded player"
[09:57] <mickey> mjr you there
[09:58] <mitchell> what terminal code can i use to install a tar.gz
[09:58] <mustard5> ezrider, ooo..I knew that answer..its escapes me now
[09:58] <shagg> having a problem with upgrading to breezy.  I've got all the packages but have a broken pipe on an openoffice package. I've tried apt-get -f dist-upgrade multiple times but to no avail.  help?
[09:58] <gnuts> hi all
[09:58] <sector10> spuds: that means its not installed correctly
[09:58] <xark> mitchell: You mean what command?  Probably something like "tar xvvzf <file.tar.gz>" (it will unpack to current directory).
[09:58] <necronudist> before I re-sell it...does anyone have a trust 150 spacecam webcam?
[09:58] <topyli> mitchell: is it source code or a binary package? why do you have such a package?
[09:59] <mitchell> i dunno, its zsnes
[09:59] <mitchell> lol
[09:59] <sector10> spuds: i would unitnstall anything realplayer including the ubuntu installer
[09:59] <ezrider> mustard5 - maybe you can point me in the general direction, faq guide or something
[09:59] <spuds> sector10, which ubuntu installer ?
[09:59] <mustard5> let me do a search ezrider brb
[09:59] <seife> How do i get my USB headphones working?
[09:59] <mickey> I can't get mp3's to play in rythmbox anyone else had this problem?
[09:59] <gnuts> what version of ndiswrapper is included with breezy?
[09:59] <sector10> spuds: see if synaptic lists anything
[10:00] <JonnyRo> mickey, you can make it play mp3's, but it's really better to convert your library to ogg format
[10:00] <dmlinux> Hey guys, when you mark something in Synaptic for complete removal, can you install it again in Synaptic?
[10:00] <JonnyRo> mp3's are patent encumbered, and are thus undesirable
[10:00] <spuds> sector10, nothing about realplayer
[10:00] <gnuts> mickey, add gstreamer-0.8mad
[10:00] <Khaaaaan> blissex: hey dude, those  changes borked my xorg...
[10:00] <mickey> jonnyro will ogg format play in winamp
[10:00] <spuds> sector10, in syanptec
[10:00] <sector10> spuds: good
[10:00] <chasmarang> DarthFrog--> do you recieve
[10:00] <Madpilot> dmlinux: of course
[10:00] <Khaaaaan> blissex: How can I go back?
[10:00] <Cryptid> topyli, i tried downloading realplayer but it dosent work if u have successfully installed it let me know how u did it
[10:00] <spuds> sector10, but how do I uninstall realplayer now ?
[10:00] <mickey> gnuts I"m new to all this, can you tell me how to add gstreamer?
[10:00] <JonnyRo> mickey, yea, it will
[10:00] <gnuts> converting from mp3 to ogg looses sound quality
[10:00] <mustard5> ezrider, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31928&highlight=gdesklets+start
[10:00] <Cryptid> topyli , i tried downloading realplayer but it dosent work if u have successfully installed it let me know how u did it
[10:00] <dmlinux> madpilot so if i mark it for complete removal i will still be able to see it in synaptic, but it wont be installed correct
[10:01] <JonnyRo> gnuts, i didnt have to many problems with it, the mp32ogg utility did a decent job
[10:01] <sorush20> unable to delete file on my desktop what the hell is going on..?
[10:01] <mickey> gnuts jonnyro don't want to lose any sound quality
[10:01] <sector10> spuds: you can leave it I think. Ill do it with you
[10:01] <sector10> spuds: i need it here on this box
[10:01] <mickey> gnuts so what do I do, please talk to me like I know nothign about linux which is true
[10:01] <ezrider> mustard5 thanks i'll look at that
[10:01] <gnuts> mickey, check the ubuntu 5.04 starter guide for clear instructions
[10:01] <spuds> sector10, If you could help me with this install of realplayer that would be great!
[10:01] <Blissex> Khaaaaan: just rerun 'dpkg --reconfigure xorg-xserver' agasin
[10:01] <chasmarang> I've upgraded from Hoary to Breezy!  When I boot it configures two IP's - can someone help
[10:01] <mickey> gnuts will atttempt to find that section
[10:02] <gnuts> mickey, give me a sec
[10:02] <Khaaaaan> blissex: I cant even get into xorg
[10:02] <sector10> spuds: download from real.com . im doing that
[10:02] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!is there a dc++ for linux?
[10:02] <chibuzonwankwo> hmm this is very intresting
[10:02] <nalioth> Alex_BO2: dcgui
[10:02] <Pignose> I've just installed the update, but Open Office is not loading, and the 'Show Desktop' icon is gone
[10:03] <sector10> spuds: the helix player wont work btw
[10:03] <chibuzonwankwo> my fist time with linux im so confused
[10:03] <ezrider> mustard5 would you happen to know how i could add a terminal starter to a desklet startup bar ?
[10:03] <spuds> sector10, I download the RPM ?
[10:03] <Blissex> Khaaaaan: you can however do 'CTRL-ALT-F1' and login to the text console and do 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg-xserver'
[10:03] <krystoff> is there anyone using zope with ubuntu please ?
[10:03] <xark> chibuzonwankwo: Don't hit the poor machine! :)
[10:03] <mustard5> I can tell you how to add a terminal to your context menu
[10:03] <ezrider> mustard5 i mean i don't think i can run it just saying 'terminal'
[10:03] <nalioth> mustard5: so tell them all
[10:03] <chibuzonwankwo> does this stuff use pppoe for internet
[10:03] <Khaaaaan> Blissex: Do you have the link to that forum post about this from before?
[10:03] <gnuts> mickey, go here http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:04] <nalioth> gnuts: please dont advise that
[10:04] <PatrikJohansson> well im gonna sleep now, thanks for all your help today guys
[10:04] <cius> would anyone know how to change the color of the font gnome uses in panels?
[10:04] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[10:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:04] <gnuts> ok, sorry.
[10:04] <sector10> spuds: in your homw directory is the RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[10:04] <spuds> yes
[10:04] <sector10> spuds: opening terminal
[10:04] <sorush20> anyone here using web mail extension with thunderbird?
[10:04] <mustard5> !openterminal
[10:04] <ubotu> hmm... openterminal is like...ummmm.....  sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[10:04] <chasmarang> I've upgraded from Hoary to Breezy!  When I boot it configures two IP's - can someone help please...
[10:04] <Alex_BO2> nalioth, thank you.it works
[10:04] <spuds> sector10, done
[10:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mickey about synaptic
[10:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mickey about apt-get
[10:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mickey about repos
[10:05] <ezrider> how can I add a terminal starter to a desklet starter bar ?
[10:05] <nalioth> Alex_BO2: ok
[10:05] <mickey> nalioth you are a great help
[10:05] <mustard5> ezrider,  sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal   this adds it to your context menu
[10:05] <gnuts> can someone tell me what version of ndiswrapper is in breezy?
[10:05] <sector10> spuds: chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[10:05] <mustard5> ezrider, right click to access
[10:05] <queuetue> Hrm ... I just replaced the video card in a breezy box, and when GDM failed (I have to modify xorg.conf) ... the console is blank?  Is there some special way to get a console in breezy?
[10:05] <Khaaaaan> Blissex: Unknown command  reconfigure?
[10:06] <sector10> spuds: do that
[10:06] <packman_e> hello all
[10:06] <ezrider> mustard5 this will add it on my gdesklet startup bar ?
[10:06] <mustard5> no
[10:06] <spuds> sector10, done chmod
[10:06] <mickey> ok everyone thanks for the help I'm off to read more
[10:06] <mickey> will learn what I can
[10:06] <sector10> spuds: then type sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[10:06] <mustard5> I dont' know that answer...but I thought this might suffice
[10:06] <ezrider> mustard5 I need a command like 'mozilla' or 'network-admin', thats what i used for the other starters
[10:06] <mustard5> you just right click and choose open terminal
[10:06] <mustard5> ah ok
[10:06] <quiet> i thought breezy is supposed to have a pretty bootsplash?
[10:07] <gnuts> can someone tell me what version of ndiswrapper is in breezy?
[10:07] <nalioth> gnuts: search at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <gnuts> thanks
[10:07] <spuds> sector10, Do i choose enable system-wise symbolic links ?
[10:07] <KB1FYR> I just edited a drive using cfdisk, I changed it from UFS (formatted in macosx) to EXT3 (I think, whatever type 82 'linux' is in cfdisk). I wrote the partition table, and to my surprise, all the files were still there? Did something go wrong, or is that normal?
[10:07] <Alpha232> Is there a simple Xwindows how to? like how do i enable resolutions beyond 640x480 and 800x600?   I have looked at the FixVideoResolutionHowto and my xorg.conf does list the video modes however the screen res widget isn't listing any other options.
[10:07] <chasmarang> It does'n look like theres anybody here from help
[10:07] <Razor-X> are there any xv clones out there? like nano is to pico?
[10:07] <spuds> sector10, Oh sorry it didnt ask, it just configured
[10:07] <Skyhawk> Okay I have a question, I was trying to install a game and my computer won't acess the shared libraries.
[10:07] <sector10> yes
[10:08] <sector10> spuds: yes thats your problem
[10:08] <sector10> sorry cpu is slow here
[10:08] <Razor-X> !tell Alpha232 about resolution
[10:08] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, last night I upgraded to breezy (from a clean Hoary install), and rebooted a few times, last night I shut down, and this morning I get "JDB failed to read,Ext3-fs failed to load journal", and now... I'm at an 'ash' prompt?  Help?
[10:08] <Pupeno-> Hello.
[10:08] <ezrider> mustard5 any idea what that command could be
[10:08] <packman_e> hey guys, last time i booted into ubuntu i started downloading&installing about 300mb of software through synaptics (kde etc.) unfortunately i had to turn the computer off. is there anyway i can resume from where i left off
[10:08] <sector10> spuds: go back and do symbolic links
[10:08] <nalioth> Alpha232: ubotu has already sent you a PM as you requested. did it not suffice?
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i get this black guy off my screensaver password entry?
[10:08] <spuds> sector10, is it correct that system-wide symbolic links takes long ?
[10:08] <Pupeno-> Is it possible to install ubuntu to hd from the livecd ?
[10:08] <sector10> spuds: should take a few seconds
[10:09] <Blissex> Khaaaaan: ooops
[10:09] <mustard5> no..sorry..I havent got gdesklets myself and I'm not exactly sure what it is you are after..I've been reading your replies trying to work it out :D
[10:09] <Razor-X> nalioth: has it been changed to fixres?
[10:09] <Alpha232> nalioth, ahem... as i said, I already looked at it.
[10:09] <Khaaaaan> blissex: looks like I dont have it installed...
[10:09] <Blissex> Khaaaaan: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xerver
[10:09] <sector10> spuds: do you have  libstdc installed
[10:09] <Pupeno-> Or does anybody know why bittorrent is downloading ubuntu at 2kb/s ?
[10:09] <sector10> spuds: i dont so i need to get it
[10:09] <nalioth> Razor-X: most likely (if it still exists)
[10:09] <Alpha232> nalioth, and my video modes DO show in the config, but not showing up in the app used to change the resolution.
[10:09] <mustard5> ezrider, I know there is a simple command line panel that you can add
[10:09] <dabaR> Blissex: its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:10] <spuds> sector10, great it works!
[10:10] <nalioth> Alpha232: open a terminal, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  and choose your resolutions
[10:10] <Khaaaaan> dabaR: When i run that it says I dont have it installed
[10:10] <packman_e> hey guys, last time i booted into ubuntu i started downloading&installing about 300mb of software through synaptics (kde etc.) unfortunately i had to turn the computer off. is there anyway i can resume from where i left off
[10:10] <nalioth> mustard5: what are we after with ezrider ?
[10:10] <nalioth> packman_e: it will resume
[10:10] <ezrider> mustard5 its a bit of a stupid problem because when you think about it its about how to open terminal in terminal
[10:10] <Epix> wow, 5.10 torrent is super fast.
[10:11] <kbrooks> 3
[10:11] <dabaR> Khaaaaan: well, did you install an xserver, as in a desktop install, or a server one?
[10:11] <ezrider> nalioth trying to add a terminal starter to a gdesklet starter bar
[10:11] <nalioth> ezrider: say that again?
[10:11] <sector10> spuds: great!
[10:11] <Khaaaaan> dabaR: desktop
[10:11] <Alpha232> nalioth, i have done that already, and those selections are shown in the xorg.conf " Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:11] <Alpha232> "
[10:11] <mustard5> gdeskjets starting in startup and a terminal option with it or something
[10:11] <nalioth> ezrider: the title is "gnome-terminal"
[10:11] <lsuactiafner> packman_e : just run the same command again
[10:11] <mustard5> nalioth, gdeskjets starting in startup and a terminal option with it or something
[10:11] <ezrider> nalioth will try thanks
[10:11] <spuds> sector10, is it true that I cant do fullscreen for embedded media ?
[10:11] <dabaR> Khaaaaan: that should work then. What is your issue?
[10:12] <nalioth> Alpha232: we are not playing with xorg.conf. we are reconfiguring your whole xserver to the resolutions YOU want
[10:12] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, last night I upgraded to breezy (from a clean Hoary install), rebooted a few times without problems, last night I shut down, and this morning I get "JDB failed to read, Ext3-fs failed to load journal", and now... I'm at an 'ash' prompt?  Help?
[10:12] <sector10> spuds: I don't know, there have been many small changes
[10:12] <Epix> heh, i got really pissed at ubuntu. then i realized that it was because i was being dumb. I installed a release candiate, but i only installed half of it (by mistake) then i went on doing stuff and geetting packages, when i realized that i still had to upgrade some more stuff. So i upgraded and broke stuff. Should have thought about that... :P
[10:12] <packman_e> nalioth, thats the think i am back in synaptic but there is nothing there to resume
[10:12] <Alpha232> nalioth, ok lets do this again... brb
[10:12] <ezrider> nalioth that did it thank you sir, thank you mustard5
[10:13] <sector10> spuds: the version number for real player went back
[10:13] <felly> evolution, eclipse, acrobat reader all crashing...
[10:13] <mustard5> np
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[10:13] <humbolt> does anybody know about alps glidepoint status in breezy?
[10:13] <nalioth> packman_e: do your 'reload' and then 'mark all upgrades' and 'apply'
[10:13] <felly> since i dist-upgraded to breezy
[10:13] <chasmarang> I've upgraded from Hoary to Breezy!  When I boot it configures two IP's - can someone help please...
[10:13] <felly> very frustrating...
[10:13] <Razor-X> Misapoes: please paste into pastebin
[10:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: you're a channel op?
[10:13] <Misapoes> yo
[10:13] <dabaR> Ya, for a while now, Razor-X .
[10:13] <nalioth> Razor-X: no. you're seeing things
[10:13] <packman_e> nalioth, after doing that , the apply icon is not highlighted
[10:14] <Razor-X> dabaR: .......
[10:14] <nalioth> packman_e: then you are up to date
[10:14] <kent> How come Ubuntu 5.10 dont have the clearlooks-olive theme? I meen, that green one.  Is it not part of the clearlooks-theme?
[10:14] <chasmarang> Razor-X --> can you help me?
[10:14] <loli`> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[10:14] <Razor-X> chasmarang: shoot
[10:14] <loli`> shit wrong window
[10:14] <sector10> spuds: 800x600 for video is max I think
[10:14] <nalioth> loli`: sun java is no longer in the repos
[10:14] <chasmarang> I've upgraded from Hoary to Breezy!  When I boot it configures two IP's so I have to poff and pon to get to use the internet- they are ppp0 for one IP and ppp1 for the second IP both by Verizon online it's these two ppp configurations I dont need just one
[10:14] <loli`> shh
[10:14] <loli`> :)
[10:14] <quiet> BLAH... I hate that the splash doesn't work if you try and use a 1024x768 console... someone should fix that.
[10:15] <sector10> spuds: what embedded device?
[10:15] <packman_e> nalioth, its not being up to date that worries me, its the fact that i spent over 30 mins selecting programs to inatall by going through the whole list, and it did not finish
[10:15] <Alpha232> nalioth, ok... now.. the dialog that says... Select the video modes you would like the X server to use. 640x480 800x600 and 1024x768 are already selected and i am adding 1280x1024...
[10:15] <nalioth> Razor-X: see? it was all a figment of your imagination
[10:15] <loli`> Are there any good programs to enable and manage dual heads?
[10:15] <sorush20> is there an international clock I can have on my desktop please..
[10:15] <kbrooks> nalioth: you are op
[10:15] <Razor-X> nalioth: :P
[10:15] <nalioth> Alpha232: deselect the ones you dont want (you only use one rez, right?)
[10:15] <kbrooks> nalioth: that was a joke
[10:15] <Khaaaaan> dabaR: Okay I spelled it wrong, it is running... there were a lot of options though, I hope I got it write ....
[10:15] <enoon> loli`, any texteditor will do fine
[10:16] <spuds> sector10, In Firefox/winxp I could just rightclick on the video and then click fullscreen, but in firefox/ubuntu I just see play/pause/stop
[10:16] <loli`> I don't know much about what code to put where
[10:16] <nalioth> packman_e: in that case, you probably have another point and check session
[10:16] <chasmarang> Razor-X --> did you see my responce
[10:16] <Razor-X> chasmarang: hmmm, I don't know much about networking, actually
[10:16] <nalioth> loli`: what code would you like to use to do what?
[10:16] <enoon> loli`, just searxch for xorg.conf and dualhead
[10:16] <chasmarang> ok
[10:16] <Razor-X> chasmarang: sorry about that *shrugs*, ask someone else
[10:16] <loli`> I want to enable the second monitor on my fx5200 pci video card
[10:16] <chasmarang> any ideas who
[10:17] <enoon> loli`, in google that is
[10:17] <nalioth> loli`: been to wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  ?
[10:17] <Alpha232> nalioth, not quite *grin* once this is all working, i'm changing my head to a widescreen 7" LCD but want to take X through the paces first.
[10:17] <Razor-X> chasmarang: try nalioth
[10:17] <sector10> spuds: Open real player standalone
[10:17] <loli`> not yet, i just thought about enabling the monitor about 30 seconds ago.
[10:17] <enoon> loli`, there are many sites discribing what to do
[10:17] <Alpha232> ok how do i reset X without exiting :)
[10:17] <nalioth> Alpha232: you ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:17] <chasmarang> nalioth--> can you help me?
[10:17] <nalioth> Alpha232: that will kill your xserver and restart it
[10:17] <Alpha232> nalioth, oh my how much this reminds me of Sun
[10:17] <nalioth> chasmarang: ask your question to the channel
[10:17] <chasmarang> I've upgraded from Hoary to Breezy!  When I boot it configures two IP's so I have to poff and pon to get to use the internet- they are ppp0 for one IP and ppp1 for the second IP both by Verizon online it's these two ppp configurations I dont need just one
[10:17] <nalioth> Alpha232: sun is more more
[10:18] <nalioth> alindeman: fun fun
[10:18] <sector10> spuds: di dyou go through tools:prefences?
[10:18] <spuds> sector10, I need to know the url to the embedded video I'm playing, but I dont know how to get that url
[10:18] <sector10> damn cpu
[10:18] <dabaR> chasmarang: so it did not fix it by what we did yesterday?
[10:18] <Khaaaaan> Yes I am back in
[10:18] <sector10> right click copy
[10:18] <sorush20> hi
[10:18] <CzarAlex> are the directions to install multimedia codecs for hoard (located http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs) still valid for breezy? If not, where can I find an updated list.
[10:18] <J`> How can I change panel preferences without clicking right button on the panel. Cause I have changed preferences so that there is no free space to get the panel, only laucher icons and other stuff..
[10:18] <CzarAlex> hoary
[10:19] <mustard5> I actually have a help question myself :)
[10:19] <nalioth> chasmarang: have you run pppconfig?
[10:19] <chasmarang> it only shut off and turn back on - when I reboot it does the same thing
[10:19] <dabaR> CzarAlex: ask ubotu about codecs
[10:19] <alpha232> nalioth, nope nada zero and zilch.
[10:19] <spuds> sector10, what can I do in preferences ?
[10:19] <CzarAlex> dabaR, what is the syntax to do so?
[10:19] <sector10> spuds: can you copy the link before it plays
[10:19] <sector10> thats what i do
[10:19] <nalioth> alpha232: do the dpkg thing again and choose the VESA driver
[10:19] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, last night I upgraded to breezy (from a clean Hoary install), rebooted a few times without problems (did some stuff, just user stuff), I shut down, and this morning I get "JDB failed to read, Ext3-fs failed to load journal", and now after failing to load/find half a dozen things, I'm at an 'ash' prompt?  Help?
[10:19] <alpha232> nalioth, also i thought there was a way to restart without killing your sessions
[10:19] <nalioth> alpha232: not to my knowledge
[10:19] <mustard5> on another install of ubuntu, I have been experiencing random shutdowns of gdm...any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[10:19] <Khaaaaan> Blissex: I am back in... I wonder what went wrong....
[10:19] <dmlinux> sudo cd to change files ?
[10:19] <spuds> sector10, .rm is not in my plugins list...
[10:20] <nalioth> mustard5: test your memory
[10:20] <dabaR> chasmarang: are you in breezy now?
[10:20] <alpha232> nalioth, yeah that would have been really fun, Solaris did that :) what a kick to change WM's without loosing sessions
[10:20] <chasmarang> dabaR --> yes
[10:20] <mustard5> hmmm....good thought, but I am running another install on the same machine (different drive) that it doesnt occur on
[10:20] <chasmarang> I used poff and pon
[10:20] <spuds> sector10, I am now looking for a extension that might capture the link before it plays embedded
[10:20] <tufkal> Afternoon folks, got a xinerama focus question.  Got my xorg setup for nvidia twinview, so i have a 1280x1024 desktop on my LCD, and a 640x480 off to the right on my TV for dropping Totem into when i want to watch TV.  New windows keep popping up on my tiny 640x480 screen.  I am a long time KDE user, and I know where in KDE to change what xinerama screen (0 or 1) new applications launch in, but I am very illiterate in gnome's confi
[10:20] <tufkal> g.  Ideas?
[10:20] <nalioth> alpha232: "gnu screen" is your friend
[10:21] <dabaR> chasmarang: go do ifconfig, and paste that, and your /etc/network/interfaces file to the pastebin as last night.
[10:21] <nalioth> tufkal: simple. install kubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <mustard5> nalioth, hmmm....good thought, but I am running another install on the same machine (different drive) that it doesnt occur on
[10:21] <alpha232> nalioth, aye?
[10:21] <chasmarang> dabaR --> okay I will
[10:21] <tufkal> nalioth, :P sorry ill stick with gnome
[10:21] <sector10> spuds: some place dont want to make it too obvious
[10:21] <dabaR> alpha232: there is a program called screen, that is a terminal/command line window manager. lets you open several terminals in one terminal.
[10:22] <dabaR> alpha232: very cool.
[10:22] <nalioth> tufkal: if you know kde, why not use it is my thoughts
[10:22] <sector10> spuds: good Luck!
[10:22] <mustard5> nalioth, logs show something about a FATAL ERROR in gdm...then it initiates a shutdown
[10:22] <alpha232> dabaR, : very familar with screen, just with the gnu in there wasn't sure if we were talking some other animal.
[10:22] <dmlinux> mustard5 hey when you download a GZ and it has a makefile in it , how do you run it?
[10:22] <tufkal> nalioth, trying to broaden my horizons
[10:22] <mustard5> nalioth, well not shutdown, but drops back to gdm greeter
[10:22] <dabaR> hehe, it is a gnu product, I guess. alpha232
[10:22] <alpha232> dabaR, : ^w is your friend
[10:22] <dabaR> Whats that do anyhow?
[10:22] <spuds> sector10, it is from the public television network in the Netherlands (they are paid from taxes) so I already send them a mail about them hiding the urls
[10:22] <kbrooks> dabaR: s/product/program/
[10:22] <nalioth> alpha232: i use "gnu screen" so folks dont wonder how to execute the 17" display in front of them
[10:23] <spuds> sector10, thanks for the all the help, truly great
[10:23] <kbrooks> dabaR: "product" is company
[10:23] <dabaR> kbrooks: s/same thing/
[10:23] <mustard5> dmlinux, you run a make command on it I imagine...usually they have a README in the tarball
[10:23] <dabaR> kbrooks: and you have a degree in business?
[10:23] <dmlinux> mustard5 no readme here :(
[10:23] <dabaR> I think product is a fine word for screen.
[10:23] <mustard5> dmlinux after you configure or something you run make..its not my forte
[10:23] <dabaR> :P
[10:23] <kbrooks> dabaR: no.  just ... nitpicking
[10:23] <nalioth> dmlinux: read the enclosed documentation to start
[10:23] <alpha232> nalioth, ahh... well i am using a nice 21" sun monitor but eventually i plan on getting the cash together and building my own POS system.
[10:23] <dabaR> product is the output of work.
[10:23] <alpha232> nalioth, and that won't require a jacked up rez
[10:24] <nalioth> dmlinux: most standard source pkgs have a configure script in them to run
[10:24] <mitchell> how do i change to the breezy distro
[10:24] <nalioth> mitchell: see /topic
[10:24] <chasmarang> dabaR --> what is the url?
[10:24] <kbrooks> alpha232: POS system == test system?
[10:24] <dabaR> chasmarang: ask the bot.
[10:24] <sector10> spuds: ok goodbye! maybe just copy links to a file then bookmark them with realplayer standalone
[10:24] <alpha232> kbrooks, not piece of shit, but Point of Sale
[10:24] <kbrooks> !screen
[10:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935   and   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:24] <kbrooks> alpha232: oh sorry
[10:24] <chasmarang> dabaR --> what is the url for pastebin?
[10:24] <joe_alf> chasmarang, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:24] <kbrooks> !paste
[10:24] <alpha232> kbrooks, : think ala Micros or POSiTouch
[10:24] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:25] <dmlinux> nalioth it has a make file, a .conf , and abunch of other files that cant be exe
[10:25] <sorush20> is there a world clock I can install on my computer..
[10:25] <kbrooks> alpha232: yes i understand
[10:25] <dmlinux> nalioth when i say "make" it says bash: make: command not found
[10:25] <dabaR> chasmarang: you should ask the bot for this, tho, a good habbit.
[10:25] <kbrooks> alpha232: i have seen a EXPENSIVE laptop
[10:25] <kbrooks> that is FAST
[10:26] <alpha232> well i don't need fast, and i would rather go cheap on CPU so i can afford the small lcd touch screen
[10:26] <badei> how can i install KDE with apt-get option??????????????????
[10:26] <mustard5> dmlinux. build-essentials
[10:26] <mustard5> dmlinux. build-essential
[10:26] <mustard5> forget the s on the end
[10:26] <kbrooks> and uses modern technology -- flash memory, for instance -- to speed up writes and reads
[10:26] <Epix> I cant pick! Kubuntu or Ubuntu?!
[10:26] <Dulak> badei: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <kbrooks> Epix: kde and gnome.
[10:26] <dmlinux> mustard5 command not found
[10:27] <mustard5> dmlinux, its in synaptic
[10:27] <mustard5> install
[10:27] <mustard5> sorry
[10:27] <tyrell> can ne1 help me in here?
[10:27] <kbrooks> Epix: kubuntu = (ubuntu - gnome) + kde
[10:27] <dmlinux> mustar5 o lol
[10:27] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, last night I upgraded to breezy (from a clean Hoary install), rebooted a few times without problems (did some stuff, just user stuff), I shut down, and this morning I get "JDB failed to read, Ext3-fs failed to load journal", and now after failing to load/find half a dozen things, I'm at an 'ash' prompt?  Help?
[10:27] <tyrell> I got a problem with display settings
[10:27] <Epix> kbrooks: so, its KDE vs Gnome :P Is that the only difference?
[10:27] <mustard5> its got all the stuff for building
[10:27] <mustard5> compiler and whatever else it does
[10:27] <dabaR> FlannelKing: what is an ash prompt? one that says ash$?
[10:27] <alpha232> kbrooks, the best ones use ramdisk and a usb boot key, its just getting it to fit in memory.
[10:27] <badei> i installed Firestarter with apt-get, how can i run it???
[10:27] <alpha232> brb. reloading x
[10:27] <dmlinux> mustard this stuff should be installed when you install Ubuntu lol
[10:28] <dabaR> badei: it should be in your Applications menu, under system tools.
[10:28] <chasmarang> dabaR --> did you get my pastebin?
[10:28] <to0om> hello, anybody an idea when the breezy backports will come up? i need things like w32codecs, libdvdcss2 etc.
[10:28] <mustard5> dmlinux, I think they would prefer ppl use official ubuntu .debs :)
[10:28] <dmlinux> mustard5 am i not ?
[10:28] <mrx___> Epix, I generally dislike gnome and kde and prefer no frills window managers.  on ubuntu, gnome rocks (don't let my buddies know i said that :)
[10:29] <mustard5> dmlinux, yes that is..but its used to construct stuff from outside of repositories
[10:29] <war-totem> can someone tell me what W: couldnt stat source packages.... means?
[10:29] <FlannelKing> dabaR, it says "BusyBody 1.00 shell (some more version stuff) Built-in Shell (ash), the prompt is simply '#'
[10:29] <dabaR> chasmarang: not yet. I will look now.
[10:29] <mustard5> dmlinux, I'm just guessing at motivation anyway
[10:29] <dmlinux> mustard5 o
[10:29] <dabaR> ash or dash?
[10:29] <TiMiDo> dash
[10:29] <FlannelKing> dabaR, excuse me, BusyBox.  And ash.
[10:29] <badei> what's the extension name of linux executables file???????????????????
[10:29] <nalioth> dmlinux: you want help compiling or whatever, join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <mjr> badei, there is none
[10:29] <TiMiDo> badei;  bin
[10:29] <mustard5> badei they are many and varied
[10:29] <nalioth> badei: psst, there is no extension
[10:30] <enyc> thinking of non-free win32codecs...
[10:30] <tufkal> Afternoon folks, got a xinerama focus question.  Got my xorg setup for nvidia twinview, so i have a 1280x1024 desktop on my LCD, and a 640x480 off to the right on my TV for dropping Totem into when i want to watch TV.  New windows keep popping up on my tiny 640x480 screen.  I am a long time KDE user, and I know where in KDE to change what xinerama screen (0 or 1) new applications launch in, but I am very illiterate in gnome.
[10:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell badei about cli
[10:30] <enyc> i have an important question i dont see a straightforward answer too...
[10:30] <mustard5> enyc, ? you looking for w32codecs?
[10:30] <mustard5> ah ok..go ahead
[10:31] <chasmarang> dabaR-->  in my network tools there are two ppp configurations and in the system log it shows them
[10:31] <Epix> mrx___: its the same here, usually i settle for fluxbox. So, whats so great about Gnome on Ubuntu?
[10:31] <enyc> how do/can  win32codecs  for xine  work  on  awd64 ubuntu...
[10:31] <enyc> ?
[10:31] <dabaR> chasmarang: give me a sec, Im working too at the same time.
[10:31] <enyc> or not...
[10:31] <to0om> i am mustard5, i need w32codecs and libdvdcss2.. any idea where i can get them from?
[10:31] <badei> how do i run firestarter??????????????
[10:31] <mustard5> I'll get ubotu to message you to0om
[10:32] <mustard5> one tick
[10:32] <Shuddertrix> to0om: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:32] <zazeem> is there a way to download audio codecs for ubuntu?? i got ventrilo running but i cant hear anyone talk cause the gsm 6.10 - 44khz 16 bit codec cant be found
[10:32] <chasmarang> dabaR--> that's okay
[10:32] <kent> badei, is it not in the menu as some one here suggested?
[10:32] <mustard5> !tell to0om about w32deb
[10:32] <mustard5> !tell to0om about restricted formats
[10:32] <dabaR> chasmarang: is that all now? I guess you killed off one of the pppx's?
[10:32] <badei> kent no
[10:32] <mustard5> to0om, check messages from ubotu
[10:32] <chasmarang> dabaR--> they're not there now because I poff and pon
[10:32] <nalioth> badei: save you ! for later, please
[10:32] <badei> kent is there another way?
[10:32] <zazeem> is there a way to download audio codecs for ubuntu?? i got ventrilo running but i cant hear anyone talk cause the gsm 6.10 - 44khz 16 bit codec cant be found
[10:33] <to0om> ok thank you guys
[10:33] <mustard5> ynp to0om anytime
[10:33] <chasmarang> dabaR--> it happens every time I boot
[10:33] <kent> badei, perhaps if you logout/login.  It should be there. Otherwise open a terminal and enter "firestarter" there. That might work.
[10:33] <nalioth> zazeem: got all your repos enabled?
[10:33] <benm> hey guys, how do you forbid a kernel module from loading
[10:33] <Adyeths> I just installed breezy, and now I'm getting tons of these messages in my logs.... anyone know how might I go about fixing this?   Oct 16 16:22:28 localhost kernel: [4426038.681000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:33] <zazeem> yes
[10:33] <benm> i have one that i think is causing problems
[10:33] <zazeem> nalioth: yes
[10:33] <badei> kent ok thanks!
[10:33] <zazeem> nalioth: how do i get  gsm 6.10 - 44khz 16 bit codec
[10:34] <shagg> having a problem with upgrading to breezy.  I've got all the packages but have a broken pipe on an openoffice package. I've tried apt-get -f dist-upgrade multiple times but to no avail.  help?
[10:34] <nalioth> zazeem: i have no clue. what does it play?
[10:34] <dabaR> chasmarang: ok, that one looks fine(as it should, since you are online. Tell me what your /etc/network/interfaces file looks like now, please. In a pastebin again.
[10:34] <jlb> hi, i'm probably the nth person to ask this, but is the mplayer site down?
[10:34] <thesilentkiller> wireless card issue: i had installed hoary in my laptop and at that point it picked up the wireless card without any hassle. i installed breezy now (fresh install - not an upgrade). i am able to see the SSID. But when I enter the WEP key, it doesnt connect. any clues anyone?
[10:34] <mustard5> enyc, I'm not sure about whether 64bit has issues with codecs...I havent heard anything
[10:34] <zazeem> it is an outbound audio player for ventrilo
[10:34] <mustard5> enyc, I think it has problems with .wmv
[10:34] <Xorlev> shagg: Did you apt-get update first?
[10:34] <tritium> benm, blacklist it
[10:34] <jlb> i can't get my codecs
[10:35] <zazeem> ventrilo is a windows program made for voice chat in games
[10:35] <shagg> xorlev - yep.
[10:35] <zazeem> its running in wine
[10:35] <chasmarang> dabaR--> I just pasted it
[10:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jlb about w32deb
[10:35] <benm> tritium, how
[10:35] <Xorlev> Perhaps the open office packages are downj
[10:35] <Xorlev> -j
[10:35] <dabaR> chasmarang: open that file to edit it. Know how?
[10:35] <tritium> benm, add the module name to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[10:35] <chasmarang> I have it open in gedit
[10:35] <benm> thanks
[10:35] <kbrooks> benm:
[10:35] <kbrooks> benm:
[10:36] <dabaR> Good, let me see what we will do to fix the file...
[10:36] <benm> tritium, will that work durring the install process
[10:36] <Xorlev> Bloody mouse problems...gah. Makes me frustrated.
[10:36] <shagg> xorlev - it just looks like it's trying to overwrite a file that's in another package.  is there some kind of force command I can give to beat it into submission?
[10:36] <dabaR> brb, chasmarang .
[10:36] <benm> this is a wireless driver that is causing havoc
[10:36] <zxsykco> Sorry to interrupt, but, has everyone using breezy badger peased with it in comparison to hoary hedgehog? Any info would be greatly appreciated!
[10:36] <kbrooks> echo modname | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[10:36] <tritium> benm, no
[10:36] <chasmarang> dabaR--> ok
[10:36] <bozel> how can i use my printer(hp psc 2410)?
[10:37] <Xorlev> shagg: Its never good to force a package unless you know what you're doing, otherwise it can seriously screw up a system.
[10:37] <mustard5> zxsykco, I am ecstatic with the lack of sound problems I have now...and my xawtv works in breezy now :D
[10:37] <FlannelKing> bozel, it should be plug and play, if youre using breezy
[10:37] <shagg> xorlev - fair ball, but in the interim, I'm kinda screwed anyhow because I have a partially botched system.
[10:37] <ubuStart> Just got BB installed, but X is not working; anyone have it working with a radeon xpress 200 (shared memory)?
[10:37] <alpha232> nalioth,  this is getting annoying ARGH... i got it to do  824x648
[10:37] <bozel> but i dont have breezy
[10:37] <mrx___> FlannelKing:  you having ext3 issues?
[10:38] <Aven> ok, please help! I can't find this anywhere on the internet but um...
[10:38] <zxsykco> Glad to hear that, mustard5! Thanks for the input!
[10:38] <FlannelKing> mrx___, uh, I think so?
[10:38] <Aven> how do you add a user for FTP?
[10:38] <dabaR> I still need time, chasmarang , please wait. Make a backup of that file using sudo and the cp command.
[10:38] <Aven> I have vsftpd installed and running
[10:38] <Xorlev> The only problem I have with Breezy is that my mouse doesn't work correctly...it can't click other UI elements except the current one. Right now I can right click the X-Chat input bar, but not hit Applications, or gAIM
[10:38] <jlb> yes, but what happened to the mplayer site?
[10:38] <Aven> i just want to give the FTP user login, password, documentroot... how do I do that?
[10:38] <Xorlev> shagg: Have you tried apt-get -f'ing it?
[10:38] <shagg> xorlev - repeatedly.  no love.
[10:39] <loli`> I have a stupid question.
[10:39] <rain`> FTP client recommendations?
[10:39] <Xorlev> Aven: Pure/ProFTPd?
[10:39] <chasmarang> dabaR--> I'll do that
[10:39] <badei> what codecs are used to play movies?
[10:39] <shalel> how do i get the screensaver to work when logged into gdm as root?
[10:39] <Aven> Xorlev: i have vsftpd and proftpd
[10:39] <Aven> what do you recomment?
[10:39] <mustard5> badei, depends on movie format
[10:39] <badei> avi mpg
[10:39] <badei> mosts
[10:39] <badei> WMA
[10:39] <badei> wmv
[10:39] <mustard5> w32codecs
[10:39] <loli`> What could cause .xinitrc not to be executing my startup things?
[10:39] <badei> sorry
[10:39] <Aven> Xorlev: ok, how do I add a user with proFTPD?
[10:39] <badei> :)
[10:40] <badei> how do i get those?
[10:40] <Xorlev> I recommend PureFTPd...ProFTPd is nice, but last I heard it had security holes.
[10:40] <mustard5> !tell badei about w32deb
[10:40] <dabaR> chasmarang: now, when you are done, let me know.
[10:40] <mustard5> check ubotu message badei
[10:40] <bozel> how can i use my printer(hp psc 2410) with hoary?
[10:40] <Xorlev> Aven: In the proftpd conf...been a while since I have.
[10:40] <Aven> o
[10:40] <Aven> can you try to remember how? :\
[10:40] <bozel> how can i use my printer(hp psc 2410) with hoary?
[10:40] <mustard5> can you see the pm from ubotu in your IRC badei ?
[10:40] <badei> there is no apt-get action to get that????
[10:40] <Aven> even the docs don't tell you how :\
[10:40] <badei> yes
[10:41] <badei> mustard5 yes i can see
[10:41] <mustard5> the info is in there
[10:41] <chasmarang> dabaR --> I finished
[10:41] <Xorlev> Aven, try googling it. Googling always works for me.
[10:41] <Aven> *sigh* I tried
[10:41] <Ng> loli`: xinitrc probably isn't called by any of the session stuff. gnome has a "startup programs" tab in the session preferences tool that lets you start programs manually. that any good?
[10:41] <alpha232> hmm is there a  mtu tool for linux like all those ones you see about "Warning your connection is slow" ? i wouldn't mind a bit of help tuning my connection :D  and yes nalioth i have given up on changing the video resolution for now :)
[10:41] <Xorlev> I'd google for you, but I can't get to Firefox.
[10:41] <kbrooks> Xorlev: thats kind of counterproductive
[10:41] <badei> mustard5 thanks again :)
[10:41] <dabaR> chasmarang: can you mount the hoary install drive, and get the network interfaces file from there?
[10:41] <mustard5> np badei
[10:41] <mustard5> anytime
[10:41] <Fanskapet> agh.. anyone know how to activate the vnc-server from bash?
[10:41] <Xorlev> kbrooks: If I could remember how, or get to Google myself I'd do it.
[10:41] <Jemt> Greetings. Backports is still down. Where can I get mplayer for Ubuntu Breezy ?
[10:41] <Ng> alpha232: ifconfig can set mtus afair
[10:42] <Ng> Fanskapet: it's called vino-server
[10:42] <mustard5> Jemt, from the normal repository
[10:42] <zazeem> why does cabextract not work in ubuntu?
[10:42] <Ng> Fanskapet: you'll probably want to run "DISPLAY=:0.0 vino-server &" so it knows which screen you are talking about
[10:42] <ethy> Jemt: Simply enable the universe and multiverse repositories and then you can install Mplayer and its dependencies in Synaptic.
[10:42] <Fanskapet> Ng: cannot find vino-server
[10:42] <alpha232> Ng, oh that i know all too well... I am thinking more along the lines of tuning window size and stuff... but i'll find it ;) google is your friend
[10:42] <chasmarang> dabaR--> okay!
[10:42] <dabaR> chasmarang: OK, then do that, and replace the one you have with the Hoary one. Then reboot, and test. If it is not working, replace the Hoary one with the backup.
[10:42] <Fanskapet> vino-preferences is available though
[10:42] <nalioth> zazeem: are your cabs integrity ok?
[10:43] <Fanskapet> maybe it's not in the path?
[10:43] <to0om> mustard5, and when are the backports gonna go up?
[10:43] <Ng> Fanskapet: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[10:43] <mustard5> Jemt, if its not coming up in synaptic I would check your sources.list against a standard one
[10:43] <the_headhunter> I have a question concerning printer configuration...when I go into System->Administration->Printing, and I doubleclick on new printer, the thing crashes
[10:43] <nalioth> to0om: to have backports, one must have something to back port FROM
[10:43] <mustard5> to0om, backports are not available for breezy until dapper development starts
[10:43] <Jemt> Both Universe and Multiverse is enablet
[10:43] <dabaR> chasmarang: pm me once you test it all.
[10:43] <Ng> alpha232: there's a tool called devilspie that can control window sizes/placement I think. that might be able to hook into the session
[10:43] <Jemt> enabled
[10:43] <the_headhunter> when I try running it on the terminal window, it outputs this: ** (gnome-cups-add:1662): WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'hpijs (recommended)'
[10:43] <the_headhunter>         ->hplip/HP-PSC_2500-hpijs.ppd (HP PSC 2500 Foomatic/hpijs[1] ) and
[10:43] <the_headhunter>         ->foomatic-ppds/hplip/HP-PSC_2500-hpijs.ppd (HP PSC 2500 Foomatic/hpijs)[1] 
[10:43] <chasmarang> dabaR--> okay - I'll come back and let you know THANX
[10:43] <nalioth> the_headhunter: please dont paste in here
[10:43] <Fanskapet> (vino-server:7451): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:44] <Jemt> 'apt-cache search mplayer' dosn't provide me with mplayer software
[10:44] <the_headhunter> sorry
[10:44] <to0om> and there's no possibility to get the libdvdcss from synaptic mustard5?
[10:44] <ethy> Jemt: And you go to synaptic and type "mplayer" into the search string it returns no results?
[10:44] <Colossus> All of my icons on the gnome menu are showing up twice.
[10:44] <nalioth> to0om: did you enable hoary-extras?
[10:44] <mustard5> to0om, I can show you where to get them
[10:44] <alpha232> Ng, ummm tcp rwin :)
[10:44] <Jemt> correct
[10:44] <Ng> Jemt: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin
[10:44] <Fanskapet> Ng: you know im ssh:ing to my fileserver
[10:44] <dabaR> welcome
[10:44] <ubuntu> hola
[10:44] <Fanskapet> it doesn't have a monitor :)
[10:44] <dabaR> ubuntu: hola. Speak spanish?
[10:44] <to0om> how nalioth?
[10:44] <ubuntu> yes
[10:44] <Jemt> ethy: Correct
[10:44] <Jemt> ethy: By the way - I prefer a console :)
[10:44] <Ng> Fanskapet: ah right, then you'll probably want to install Xvnc so it can run headless X sessions for you :)
[10:45] <dabaR> just in case you wanted to know...
[10:45] <nalioth> dabaR: c'mon man, say "que idioma?"
[10:45] <apokryphos> !tell to0om about hoary-extras
[10:45] <Ng> Fanskapet: sorry, I assumed you were ssh'd into a desktop machine
[10:45] <dabaR> nalioth: I suck at spanish, pretty much.
[10:45] <nalioth> ubuntu: espanol en #ubuntu-es, por favor
[10:45] <ethy> Jemt: Paste your source.list into a pastebin and give me the link.
[10:45] <mustard5> nalioth, is libdvdcss in restrictedformats?
[10:45] <Fanskapet> Ng: then i wouldn't need doing it commonline :)
[10:45] <ubuntu> ok
[10:45] <nalioth> mustard5: it's in hoary-extras
[10:45] <mustard5> ah ok
[10:45] <Ng> Fanskapet: you might if vino wasn't running for some reason, but nevermind :)
[10:46] <Fanskapet> agh
[10:46] <Fanskapet> damn breezy :P
[10:46] <mustard5> so he would have to add hoary-extras to breezy source, nalioth ?
[10:46] <nalioth> mustard5: that would do it
[10:46] <mustard5> k
[10:46] <benm> guys, i need some guidence on debugging a kernel bug I have
[10:46] <benm> joined #banshee
[10:46] <benm> * jlj (~agp@cpe-204-210-33-165.san.res.rr.com) h
[10:46] <benm> eek
[10:46] <ubuStart> What is the shell cmd to configure X ?
[10:46] <mustard5> ok to0om I have it :D
[10:46] <benm> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17128
[10:46] <mustard5> !tell to0om about hoary-extras
[10:47] <benm> is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingIRQProblems the right set of steps to follow for this problem?
[10:47] <mustard5> to0om, did you get that from ubotu?
[10:47] <nalioth> ubuStart: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:47] <mustard5> I'll explain it when you see it, to0om
[10:47] <Jemt> ethy: Well, I'm using the default sources.list - and have removed all # in front of repositories (Except Backports)
[10:47] <to0om> yeah got it mustard5
[10:47] <mustard5> k
[10:48] <ethy> Jemt: Did you add multiverse to it too?
[10:48] <Jemt> ethy: ... and addet a comment to the CD rom
[10:48] <mustard5> you know how to edit sources.list?
[10:48] <ubuStart> nali - I did that (as root, in recover mode, ) thanks, no joy.
[10:48] <ubuntu> habla alguien espaol
[10:48] <nalioth> !es
[10:48] <ethy> Jemt: Multiverse too right?
[10:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:48] <mustard5> to0om,  you know how to edit sources.list?
[10:48] <ubuntu> ok
[10:48] <to0om> yes but not where mustard5 :)
[10:48] <Jemt> ethy: Ah, bugger. I actually don't have multiverse
[10:48] <Jemt> ethy: (sorry)
[10:48] <ethy> Jemt: Np, enable that and try again, should be able to work.
[10:49] <mustard5> you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:49] <Jemt> ethy: Enable? I need a source
[10:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> Hi
[10:49] <ethy> Jemt: Just add the word "multiverse" after "universe".
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> I just burned myself a new breezy 64 bit CD from upgraded hoary->breezy 32 bit
[10:49] <to0om> but why hoary-extras and not breezy-extras mustard5?
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> Fixating...
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> Fixating time:  640.831s
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> BURN-Free was never needed.
[10:49] <mustard5> to0om, open a terminal and type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> Thank you for mking me wait 10.8 minutes for that.
[10:50] <bluefoxicy> :>
[10:50] <EnsignRedshirt> If you happen to be running breezy, try this: view a PDF file with evince, and hit ctrl-R 6 or 7 times.
[10:50] <to0om> i've already done that mustard5
[10:50] <Jemt> ethy: Should I add 'multiverse' to all sources that contains 'universe' ?
[10:50] <nalioth> Jemt: yes
[10:50] <starscalling> Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed.  <<<would anyone know how to get rid of that?
[10:50] <alpha232> Installation de la JRE en english?
[10:50] <Jemt> Great
[10:51] <ethy> Jemt: Check here (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3207).
[10:51] <BluesRocker> hi, can anybody know how to fix SciTE?
[10:52] <Jemt> ethy: Thanks, checking :)
[10:52] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[10:52] <BooZee> !ubuntu w32codecs
[10:52] <ubotu> BooZee: Not a clue
[10:52] <leetcharmer> how is everyone doing?
[10:52] <BooZee> !ubuntu w32codec
[10:52] <ubotu> BooZee: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:52] <windex> yes
[10:52] <Jemt> leetcharmer: Fine, thanks
[10:52] <leetcharmer> Jemt, that's good :D
[10:52] <windex> !w32codecs
[10:52] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[10:52] <leetcharmer> has anyone tried out that little script "EasyUbuntu" 2.3?
[10:53] <apokryphos> leetcharmer: link to it? Heard about it; kind of interested in what it tries to do exactly
[10:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Could someone try this?  View a PDF file with evince, and hit ctrl-R 6 or 7 times. I'd like to know if that kills evince for anyone else.
[10:53] <BooZee> 10x, windex
[10:53] <leetcharmer> apokryphos, it's mostly useless right now, because of it's quick popularity, all the links it had dowlnoading stuff from are down atm
[10:53] <leetcharmer> like mplayer for example
[10:53] <alpha232> !ubuntu java
[10:53] <ubotu> No idea, alpha232
[10:53] <alpha232> !ubuntu jre
[10:54] <ubotu> alpha232: I haven't a clue
[10:54] <leetcharmer> the site is mostly useless atm
[10:54] <alpha232> thats Sick
[10:54] <dabaR> alpha232: stop for a sec.
[10:54] <Belutz> !javadeb
[10:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) (Breezy)
[10:54] <leetcharmer> but, lemme get out a link for ya
[10:54] <nalioth> leetcharmer: we've seen many mangled boxen in here due to 'easyubuntu', it isnt written very well to take in all the possibilities
[10:54] <mustard5> hmmm...got the gdm problem again...went back to gdm greeter
[10:54] <apokryphos> alpha232: investigate with the bot in /msg
[10:54] <zazeem> how do i get into an existing windows partion to get this file msgsm32.acm, do i have to boot into my windows partition and find it? or can i from ubuntu??
[10:54] <mustard5> I'm back ..where was i?
[10:54] <Jemt> ethy: Thanks, everything seems to be working now :)
[10:54] <ethy> Jemt: Np.
[10:54] <kbrooks> nalioth: what is "easyubuntu"?
[10:54] <leetcharmer> http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/ = for easyubuntu
[10:54] <to0om> and what now mustard5?
[10:54] <leetcharmer> hmm, they just released a new version
[10:55] <ethy> !windows
[10:55] <ubotu> [windows]  Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[10:55] <leetcharmer> I think I'll give that a shot then :D
[10:55] <kbrooks> !alternative
[10:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[10:55] <zazeem> how do i get into an existing windows partion to get this file msgsm32.acm, do i have to boot into my windows partition and find it? or can i from ubuntu??
[10:55] <mustard5> nalioth, I think that last reset confirmed your memtest idea ..its happened on both now
[10:55] <leetcharmer> easyubuntu is a small app that will auto-install video drivers, video codecs and stuff to make it usable
[10:55] <BluesRocker> !scite
[10:55] <ubotu> BluesRocker: Are you on ritalin?
[10:55] <mustard5> to0om, ok where were we..I got disconnected
[10:55] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[10:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[10:55] <juuso> hello! how can i install apache? please help me
[10:55] <juuso> !apache
[10:55] <ubotu> apache is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[10:55] <BluesRocker> ritalin?
[10:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zazeem about mountwindows
[10:56] <BluesRocker> !ritalin
[10:56] <alpha232> apokryphos/dabaR   my point was, it should be a simple as asking for Java or Jre / J2re to get those answers not somthing as esoteric as  javadebs
[10:56] <mustard5> to0om, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <to0om> i have the sources.list opened now mustard5
[10:56] <mustard5> k
[10:56] <nalioth> !+msgthebot
[10:56] <ubotu> msgthebot is probably please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know know whether some factoid exists.)
[10:56] <mustard5> to0om, now pick one of those links to hoary-extras and add it to the bottom
[10:56] <mustard5> !hoary-extras
[10:56] <BluesRocker> ubotu, no
[10:56] <ubotu> hmm... hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:56] <ubotu> BluesRocker: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:56] <L0G4N> use # sudo apt-get install apache
[10:57] <ubuStart> nalioth: ran sudo..dpkg... again, tried both framebuffer & nonframebuffer, now looks like I'm missing /usr/X11R6/.../libGLcore.a:m_debug_more.o" no symbols found...
[10:57] <apokryphos> alpha232: you can "make" your point by mentioning it, not by unnecessarily using the bot. And, "java" would give you a link to how to get sun-java anyhow
[10:57] <amonkey> azureus stopped working (everything starts, just no data is sent) since i upgraded to breezy. any ideas?
[10:57] <BooZee> I have a prob with my LCD screen and Ubuntu: for some reason, ubuntu sets the refresh rate to 75hz, but I want it on 60 Hz. So I go and change. BUT! When I shut down or reboot my comp, it get's back to 75 Hz all over again. What can/should I do to prevent this, and to keep the 60 HZ setting ?
[10:57] <nalioth> BluesRocker: ubotu is a bot
[10:57] <mustard5> to0om, the one second one that starts with deb
[10:57] <leetcharmer> ya -- mplayer's site is still down
[10:57] <leetcharmer> :(
[10:57] <to0om> there's no breezy-extras repository mustard5?
[10:57] <BluesRocker> nalioth, i know :)
[10:57] <L0G4N> ei, alguem sabe configurar o teclado pra abnt2?!?!??!
[10:57] <mustard5> to0om,  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:57] <mustard5> to0om, no
[10:58] <windex> BooZee, refresh dosen't matter on lcd's.
[10:58] <windex> BooZee, typically.
[10:58] <BluesRocker> nalioth, i thought i can find out something from him
[10:58] <alex_molecola> hi !!! I'm italian and I don't speack very well english but I've a question
[10:58] <nalioth> to0om: not yet
[10:58] <jxpx> L0G4N , #ubuntu-es
[10:58] <ethy> !cedega
[10:58] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:58] <nalioth> !ita
[10:58] <ubotu> [ita]  italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[10:58] <BooZee> windex:  but on 75Hz it blurry, and on 60Hz it's not
[10:58] <anindya> isnt it possible to run multiple apt's?
[10:58] <mustard5> to0om, breezy is using hoary-extras for now
[10:58] <windex> BooZee, your using a vga or dvi input for your lcd?
[10:58] <BooZee> vga
[10:58] <to0om> ok, many thanks to you guys :)
[10:58] <EnsignRedshirt> jxpx: Was that Spanish or Portugese?
[10:58] <L0G4N> jxpx, soh digitar no terminal?!??!
[10:58] <windex> BooZee, is dvi an option for you?
[10:58] <Ng> anindya: multiple apt-cache's yes, multiple apt-get's no
[10:58] <jxpx> spanish man
[10:58] <mustard5> to0om, all good now?
[10:58] <BluesRocker> !SciTE
[10:58] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, BluesRocker
[10:59] <mustard5> to0om, tell us how you go
[10:59] <BooZee> windex:  don't have a dvi exit from my comp
[10:59] <pino> ciao
[10:59] <alex_molecola> ok
[10:59] <jxpx> #ubuntu-pt
[10:59] <BluesRocker> !scintilla
[10:59] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, BluesRocker
[10:59] <Stricklin> Someone give me the link to the recommended sources list for Breezy?
[10:59] <L0G4N> valeu!!!
[10:59] <windex> BooZee, k. well, let me read my xorg.conf and see if there's a quick way to set a default
[10:59] <mustard5> !tell Stricklin about sources
[10:59] <jxpx> L0G4N #ubuntu-pt
[10:59] <nalioth> BluesRocker: quit with the !triggers
[10:59] <BooZee> 10x
[10:59] <zer0`> !tell zer0` about sources
[10:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Stricklin about sources
[10:59] <anindya> another thing if i dont know some package name fully, how can download it thru apt-get?
[10:59] <Stricklin> thank you
[10:59] <kbrooks> !pt
[10:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:59] <pino> qualcuno ha installato lopster2?
[10:59] <alpha232> apokryphos, not to be a prick but no it didn't; alpha232 !ubuntu java; ubotu No idea, alpha232
[10:59] <nalioth> anindya: use synaptic to search
[11:00] <nalioth> pino: que idioma?
[11:00] <L0G4N> jxpx, voce fala minha lingua?!?!?1
[11:00] <to0om> the download of w32codecs over bittorent is that slow mustard5
[11:00] <to0om> 0,1 kb/s
[11:00] <windex> BooZee, you are hitting the 'make this the default' and 'apply', right?
[11:00] <apokryphos> alpha232: why the heck would someone type !ubuntu java? It's kind of presupposed that ubotu is used for *ubuntu* factoids :)
[11:00] <BooZee> yep
[11:00] <nalioth> L0G4N: ingles aqui, por favor
[11:00] <apokryphos> alpha232: so the ubuntu there is reasonably superfluous
[11:00] <Aven> L0G4N: PUTO
[11:00] <LaserLine> Hello all, I have breezy installed with ATI driveres from repository, and I can't use the XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv) Output sink in Multimedia system selector. Anyone could help ??
[11:00] <mustard5> to0om, you getting the w32codecs from the w32deb links I gave you?
[11:01] <jxpx> i got a problem when i want to add a problem : Cannot install 'kopete'
[11:01] <jxpx> Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'kopete'.
[11:01] <dabaR> apokryphos: cause someone does not know that? Its not like its common knowledge...
[11:01] <jxpx> a *program
[11:01] <jxpx> lol
[11:01] <leetcharmer> brb
[11:01] <LaserLine> blissex know this issue ?
[11:01] <to0om> yes mustard5
[11:01] <apokryphos> dabaR: I have never in my life (of all my long hours in this channel) seen someone investigate with prefixing all factoids with ubuntu
[11:01] <mustard5> ah ok...I didnt think it was a torrent link..
[11:01] <windex> BooZee, hrm. is this in breezy or hoary
[11:01] <BooZee> breezy
[11:01] <alpha232> apokryphos, well thats why i used to like purl, it was a good bot, cleaned up queries quite well, scrubbed them damn clean to sometimes not even answering them ;)
[11:02] <mustard5> I dont have a clue about torrent btw
[11:02] <BooZee> fresh one
[11:02] <nekohayo> has someone seen the realslick screensavers in breezy? They are installed but do not appear in the list
[11:02] <Pengu> anybody else had problems with ldconfig with breezy, updating from hoary?
[11:02] <windex> BooZee, k, i don't yet have breezy working on anything because i haven't had time, in hoary, it works as desired. keep trying? :/ sorry.
[11:03] <dabaR> Pengu: read the wiki upgrade notes, and the bugzilla?
[11:03] <BooZee> k, thanks anyway!
[11:03] <Pengu> I just maded some symlinks and no complaints of ldconfig anymore but I dont know if that was the right way
[11:03] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me please ?
[11:03] <jxpx> !tell sources jxpx
[11:03] <Pengu> ok sorry dabaR
[11:03] <BooZee> hey people, does anybody here having problems with sudo apt-get update on breezy??
[11:03] <kbrooks> can i install ubuntu in a virtual machine like qemu
[11:03] <icewt> !w32codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[11:03] <BooZee> I get a public key error
[11:03] <nalioth> kbrooks: yes of course
[11:03] <nekohayo> BooZee, yeah, I have that for one of the repositories
[11:03] <dabaR> Pengu: why sorry, it was a question. See that is why I do not like the choice of read read read for tenses of the verb.
[11:03] <nalioth> BooZee: disregard it, it is known and will be sorted out
[11:04] <dabaR> I should have used have you read.
[11:04] <eduardo> hola
[11:04] <kbrooks> nalioth: how/?
[11:04] <BooZee> k.
[11:04] <eduardo> alguien abla espaol?
[11:04] <BooZee> so anybody can help me with my LCD refresh rate (VGA) problam?
[11:04] <kbrooks> nalioth:  i want to install to hd over this messy ubuntu install
[11:04] <LaserLine> Karhuton Does ATI drivers disable X11 XV Output ?
[11:05] <Karhuton> Laser: Umm. ATI GPL?
[11:05] <eduardo> HAY ALGUIEN ESPAOL?
[11:05] <nekohayo> BooZee, what's that problem? don't think I can help but I'm curious
[11:05] <nalioth> !es
[11:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:05] <LaserLine> Karhuton the ones from the breezy repo.
[11:05] <BooZee> for some reason, ubuntu sets the refresh rate to 75hz, but I want it on 60 Hz. So I go and change. BUT! When I shut down or reboot my comp, it get's back to 75 Hz all over again. What can/should I do to prevent this, and to keep the 60 HZ setting ?
[11:05] <kbrooks> nalioth: i cant get a cd shipped as i cant give the address of the place i'm here out
[11:05] <Pengu> no Cant find it in the wiki but I dont think (hope) its gonna cause any troubles in the future, dabaR
[11:05] <Karhuton> LaserLine, ATI GPL = radeon, ATI propietary = fglrx
[11:05] <Pengu> +not lol
[11:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: suspicious people
[11:06] <LaserLine> Karhuton you are loosing me here...
[11:06] <El_Che> Karhuton: or ati module
[11:06] <nekohayo> BooZee, hmm.. try changing the setting, then LOG OUT saving the session
[11:06] <Epix> does gdesklets work on Ubuntu?
[11:06] <BooZee> nekohayo:  I did auto save session
[11:06] <mustard5> Karhuton, GPL is open source...proprietary is commercial licence
[11:06] <TodFlanders> epix yes
[11:06] <BooZee> I tried logging out and in again, rebooting... nothing helps!
[11:06] <blahdeblah> Hi all.  Is there a web page where we can look up package versions in the different Ubuntu releases?  Something like http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?
[11:07] <shagg> what's the best method to get around a "broken pipe" error using apt-get/dpkg/synaptic?
[11:07] <dabaR> Pengu: there is a breezy upgrade wiki page, and says what the known issues are.
[11:07] <mustard5> doh wrong person Karhuton
[11:07] <Karhuton> blahdeblah, packages.ubuntu.org
[11:07] <icewt> blahdeblah, packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <windex> the easiest way to help BooZee would be to tell hir how to specify a refresh in xorg.conf but i dont know how.
[11:07] <LaserLine> Karhuton I can't use the XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv) Output sink in multimedia selector. Just the XWindows (No Xv) and SDL hangs in Fullscreen.
[11:07] <kbrooks> blahdeblah: .com not .org
[11:07] <nekohayo> BooZee, and editing xorg.conf ?
[11:08] <Karhuton> LaserLine, what radeon do you have?
[11:08] <nekohayo> BooZee, actually, what problem can a higher refresh rate cause you?
[11:08] <BooZee> I tried it, but didn't find the place for the refresh rate
[11:08] <LaserLine> Karhuton ATI 9500Pro - it's a ATI Retail card.
[11:08] <BooZee> it's blurry and herts the eyes...
[11:08] <blahdeblah> Karhuton/icewt: thanks - search at www.ubuntu.com didn't find that.
[11:09] <nekohayo> I didn't think LCDs did that
[11:09] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I'm pretty sure the GPL and fglrx drivers both support xv acceleration
[11:09] <Karhuton> Atleast for my 9600 pro
[11:09] <Karhuton> LaserLine, you propably don't have working AGP/DRI
[11:09] <LaserLine> Karhuton so what can I do to resolve this ?
[11:10] <humbolt> My Alps touchpad configuration does not seem to work. Even when I turn off the touchpad with ksynaptics it keeps on working. looking at /proc/bus/input/devices I see that the device used by X does not seem to be the actual Alps device: http://pastebin.com/395797  what can I do?
[11:10] <BooZee> so what can I do nekohayo and windex ?
[11:10] <Karhuton> LaserLine, have you used a program called fglrxconfig?
[11:10] <blahdeblah> Is breezy the current stable release?  packages.ubuntu.com doesn't indicate which release is the latest & which is the oldest.
[11:10] <LaserLine> Karhuton nope.
[11:10] <El_Che> blahdeblah: breezy is the latest stable, yes
[11:10] <Karhuton> LaserLine, only dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver?
[11:10] <mustard5> blahdeblah, breezy is current
[11:11] <blahdeblah> El_Che/mustard5: thanks
[11:11] <erUSUL> blahdeblah: yes, since Oct. 13th
[11:11] <LaserLine> Karhuton I edited the xorg.conf
[11:11] <cliechti> hello, has somebody success, running eclipse on breezy/amd64? it crahes with an error message here
[11:11] <dabaR> blahdeblah: use the ubuntu home page to find that out.
[11:11] <Karhuton> Laseline, do you have this package installed: xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[11:12] <nekohayo> BooZee, I don't really know... I don't understand why gnome works like that, I was so pissed when I discovered that it did not consider xorg.conf at all
[11:12] <player> Is it possible to tell X not to use the /dev/fb0,  even if it is present?  It's tanking my performance with HD video
[11:12] <LaserLine> Karhuton let me chack.
[11:13] <nekohayo> .......hey I just discovered that IF beagled (beagle) is running, screensavers LAG. Could anyone confirm this?
[11:13] <Karhuton> LaserLine, use: dpkg --list | grep xserver ati
[11:13] <Karhuton> Ups, Instead:  use: dpkg --list | grep xserver
[11:13] <LaserLine> Karhuton Ok.
[11:13] <gooktime> Anyone here a radox willy man
[11:14] <vafnord> I am having problems getting video to work on a machine
[11:14] <LaserLine> Karhuton dpkg is locked for 30 seconds (i'm d/l flash)
[11:14] <vafnord> it would not work in warty
[11:14] <Karhuton> LaserLine, seems like it has it installed by default
[11:14] <vafnord> it still does not work in breezy
[11:14] <Linad> good evening guys
[11:14] <Karhuton> So I'm betting you have it, no need to check
[11:14] <Karhuton> Try this: dpkg --list | grep fglrx
[11:14] <vafnord> when i try to start totem i get an error
[11:14] <player> vafnord : which erro
[11:15] <vafnord> stand by
[11:15] <LaserLine> Karhuton I did this to install the ati drivers 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'
[11:15] <vafnord> "The video output is in use by another application"
[11:15] <vafnord> but it is not
[11:15] <Karhuton> LaserLine, ok
[11:16] <Fanskapet> hmm so noone knows how to enable the vnc-server from a terminal (sshing to the computer) ? agh.. then im trashed.. don't have an extra monitor
[11:16] <gusto5> hello, ive downloded VisualBoyAdvance-1.7.1-SDL-linux-glibc22.tar.gz, how do i make it work?
[11:16] <Karhuton> Then make a copy of xorg.conf and run fglrxconfig
[11:16] <LaserLine> Karhuton no I don't have that..
[11:16] <Karhuton> LaserLine, huh?
[11:16] <Karhuton> You just said you had it
[11:16] <paelscrit> whew i just installed firefox
[11:16] <LaserLine> Karhuton the package xserver-ati
[11:17] <vafnord> oh, it looks like xine works
[11:17] <Karhuton> LaserLine, forget it
[11:17] <shinu> !backports
[11:17] <Karhuton> Then make a copy of xorg.conf and run fglrxconfig
[11:17] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:17] <paelscrit> but i couldnt do it with the tar.gz only through adept
[11:17] <LaserLine> Karhuton the fglrxconfig i have.
[11:17] <LaserLine> Karhuton Ok, what now ?
[11:17] <paelscrit> would anyone care to explain to me how to install if you have tar.gz
[11:17] <Karhuton> LaserLine, answer correctly to the questions it asks :)
[11:17] <mustard5> nalioth, is this a clue as to my reseting problem? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3209
[11:18] <player> paelscrit : tar zxvf file.tar.gz ; cd file; make && make install
[11:18] <LaserLine> Karhuton Mouse ???
[11:18] <the_YETI> changed my video card, stuck at a command propmt, startx bombs.  help please
[11:18] <erUSUL> gusto5: apt-get install visualboyadvance and desist on compile it yourself. Save everybody's time
[11:18] <Karhuton> LaserLine, default options are pretty good
[11:18] <kbrooks> nalioth?
[11:18] <erisco> hello, i am a big gamer and i was wondering what video cards work best with linux... or are there any compatibility issues between the two?
[11:18] <Karhuton> Maybe choose a custom locale for keyboard
[11:18] <apokryphos> erisco: nvidia :D
[11:18] <Karhuton> And _read_all_the_messages_it_shows_to_you
[11:18] <gusto5> erUSUL, im looking for visualboyadvance with a GUI
[11:18] <paelscrit> thanks player
[11:18] <LaserLine> Karhuton Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse, is it intellimouse ?
[11:18] <Karhuton> Read and try to understand. Don't ask me for every answer
[11:19] <Karhuton> LaserLine, it's just a ps2 mouse
[11:19] <gusto5> erUSUL, fine. how do i get the synaptic one to run my rom?
[11:19] <cliechti> Fanskapet, "vncserver" or "tightvncserver" opens a new desktop you can connect too. or do you need to export the local display?
[11:19] <El_Che> erisco: the best video card is a playstation 2 (that's what I did :) )
[11:19] <player> any X gurus here?
[11:19] <kbrooks> player: ask
[11:19] <LaserLine> Karhuton the PS/2 mouse, I don't know where it's connected to, how can I check that ? /dev/input/???
[11:19] <will-c> i just upgraded to 5.10 and now no sound.....
[11:20] <will-c> any ideas?
[11:20] <crimsun> will-c: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[11:20] <LaserLine> Karhuton the default is /dev/input/mice
[11:20] <player> When I enable the framebuffer with the kernel option vga=xxx, my x video performance tanks
[11:20] <Karhuton> LaserLine, the line where you type the answer, has the default answer between [ and ] 
[11:20] <Buddha|> Does anyone know of an Enlightenment 16.8 package for Ubuntu?
[11:20] <LaserLine> Karhuton go with default ?
[11:20] <Karhuton> It chooses the default if you just press enter
[11:20] <Karhuton> LaserLine, YES
[11:20] <player> If I boot without vga=xxx, performance is fine
[11:20] <will-c> crimsun: yeh it finds my hardware ok
[11:20] <erisco> how do i upgrade to breezy? and what are the benefits?
[11:20] <gusto5> erUSUL, how do i get the synaptic visualboyadvance to work?
[11:20] <crimsun> will-c: I'm asking for the hardware
[11:20] <kbrooks> !upgrade
[11:20] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:21] <erisco> okay thanks
[11:21] <socomm> !sound
[11:21] <LaserLine> Karhuton for everything ? I have an Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard, what should I choose ? how do I know what's it on now...
[11:21] <ubotu> methinks sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:21] <vafnord> i think i am missing libdvdcss
[11:21] <will-c> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:21] <will-c> 0000:02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[11:21] <erUSUL> gusto5: man visualboyadvance? i do not have the progam installed i can not tell you
[11:21] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I don't know. Try your best
[11:21] <Blissex> LaserLine: well, 'xv' should work on almost anything.
[11:21] <player> Is there a way to tell X to ignore /dev/fb0 even if it is present?
[11:21] <Karhuton> You can rerun the setup, if something doesn't work
[11:21] <kbrooks> will-c: it is your linux kernel
[11:21] <Karhuton> It's not the end of the world
[11:22] <crimsun> will-c: so which ones are muted? Which one do you want to be default?
[11:22] <Karhuton> LaserLine, if you want to know if you should use internal agp support, type into another console: lsmod | grep agp
[11:22] <gooktime> hello, i am a big gamer and i was wondering what video cards work best with linux... or are there any compatibility issues between the two?
[11:22] <will-c> kbrooks: you mean i should upgrade my kernel?
[11:22] <Karhuton> If you have agp driver for your motherboard (I have via_agp) loaded, then don't use the internal agp
[11:22] <kbrooks> will-c: its already upgraded
[11:23] <LaserLine> Karhuton there is no hebrew, so what does US English w/ISO995-3 mean ?
[11:23] <Fanskapet> hmm
[11:23] <Fanskapet> 192.168.0.2:0
[11:23] <Fanskapet> "Tight VNC info: Read Exact: Socket error while reading.
[11:23] <Karhuton> LaserLine, You have a hebrew keyboard?
[11:23] <will-c> crimsun: i guess the intel one, i dont believe the other one is gonna work with linux
[11:23] <Fanskapet> it seems to be active
[11:23] <LaserLine> Karhuton yes, hebrew + english
[11:23] <Karhuton> It worked with the old xorg.conf?
[11:23] <LaserLine> Karhuton yes.
[11:23] <cherryOS> hi, i just installed breezy and I have a problem. it freezes every time after I login, i use a radeon graphics card and i just changed xorg.conf because it listed ati as the driver instead of radeon, anyone know why it freezes?
[11:24] <Karhuton> Then answer what ever you want and edit the new xorg.conf accordingly to your _backup_ xorg.conf, I told you to make
[11:24] <paelscrit> player: that didnt do anything
[11:24] <erisco> hey i just downloaded the visualboyadvance... what is the terminal command for it?
[11:24] <kbrooks> will-c: you dont have the audio module
[11:24] <LaserLine> Karhuton ok.
[11:24] <erisco> having a hard time finding it...
[11:24] <player> cherryOS : check /var/log/X.log.0
[11:24] <alpha232> argh damnit, totem doesn't have Mpeg Codecs? how am i gonna watch my porn!
[11:24] <will-c> cherryOS: try manually changing it back to radeon.. that happened to me once with another distr
[11:24] <cherryOS> i changed it manually, but it freezes
[11:24] <player> alpha232: use xine
[11:24] <will-c> kbrooks: how come?
[11:24] <crimsun> will-c: the Audigy works fine
[11:24] <cherryOS> k player
[11:25] <izachi> hi everyone, does anyone know how can i run kino as a normal user to capture video?
[11:25] <crimsun> will-c: cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:25] <will-c> crimsun: 0 snd_intel8x0
[11:25] <player> paelscrit : you unpacked it right?  Then what?
[11:25] <crimsun> izachi: you need to adjust hotplug's permissions on /dev/raw1394
[11:26] <LaserLine> Karhuton Please sekect application specific Profile... - what's that ?
[11:26] <mustard5> !tell alpha232 about w32debs
[11:26] <izachi> can you help me crimsun?
[11:26] <Karhuton> LaserLine, read the info above the question
[11:26] <socomm> !w32deb
[11:26] <ubotu> it has been said that w32deb is download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[11:26] <paelscrit> actually i just typed what you said and replaced it with the filename
[11:26] <izachi> right now im using a normal account
[11:26] <andril> hello all
[11:26] <izachi> with out administrative power
[11:26] <Karhuton> LaserLine, If you don't need special settings for, say Maya 3D animation program, then maybe you can choose the default?
[11:26] <andril> anyone have packages local for download?
[11:26] <cliechti> Fanskapet, if you started "tightvncserver" then you need to connect to 192.168.0.2:1 (or whatever display number it printed when you started it)
[11:27] <socomm> Have you tried adding a suid to to kino?
[11:27] <player> paelscrit : what package is it?
[11:27] <LaserLine> Karhuton Ok.
[11:27] <gusto5> sorry, i missed a visualboyadvance comment earlier..
[11:27] <amonkey> has anyone else had breezy affect their ability to torrent? azureus has stopped working for me.
[11:27] <gusto5> someone riterate?
[11:27] <paelscrit> gaim-1.5.0.tar.gz
[11:27] <shinu> if i update breezy through apt, does will it never ask me for the cdrom ?
[11:27] <LaserLine> Karhuton "do you want to initialize xfree86-dga ? what's that ?
[11:27] <andril> I want to build a repository local and off to all - since there were alot of upgrade issues
[11:27] <izachi> how do i do that?
[11:27] <Karhuton> LaserLine, you don't need it
[11:27] <LaserLine> Karhuton - I'm using Xorg, right ?
[11:27] <crimsun> will-c: the Audigy's driver isn't loaded?
[11:27] <mustard5> !tell amonkey about azureus
[11:28] <Karhuton> LaserLine, it means xorg-dga, but even then, you don't need it
[11:28] <izachi> socomm, what do you mean
[11:28] <socomm> shinu, If you've commented out or removed the cd-rom entry in your sources.list, no.
[11:28] <mustard5> amonkey, add the hoary-extras repository to your breezy sources.list
[11:28] <LaserLine> Karhuton Do you want to use the external AGP GART module ? I have nforce2 mobo, so that should be off ?
[11:28] <socomm> chomd +s /path/to/kino
[11:28] <Karhuton> LaserLine, I answered to that before
[11:28] <amonkey> mustard5, i have azureus, it's what died
[11:28] <shinu> socomm: i can remove it without any fear right?
[11:29] <Karhuton> Read my lines about few screenfuls back
[11:29] <player> paelscrit : just install gaim using synaptic
[11:29] <socomm> s/chomd/chmod/
[11:29] <mustard5> yeah breezy killed it didnt it?
[11:29] <will-c> crimsun: nah, but its an emu 0404, i dont reckon it will work
[11:29] <Karhuton> LaserLine, Around 00:24 (my time)
[11:29] <socomm> shinu, If you don't plan to upgrade via CD, yes.
[11:29] <paelscrit> i just installed it through adept
[11:29] <amonkey> mustard5, i could torrent just fine with it until i restarted after upgrading to breezy. just can't send data, can start up fine.
[11:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Could someone do me favor?  I'm about to submit a bug report, but I would like to see if  the bug occurs for anyone else.
[11:29] <paelscrit> i was just trying to learn how to install a tar.gz though
[11:29] <LaserLine> Karhuton I typed the lsmod
[11:29] <socomm> shinu, You could always comment it out. No need to remove it completly.
[11:29] <gusto5> amonkey, perhaps your java?
[11:29] <dabaR> crimsun: have you noticed a change in how breezy's nautilus displays the current path?
[11:29] <doosht> anyone here?
[11:29] <Karhuton> LaserLine, it was a two part command. Not just "lsmod"
[11:29] <EnsignRedshirt> View a PDf file with evince, and hit ctrl-R several times (not necessarily quickly).
[11:30] <socomm> doosht,  No. G'away.
[11:30] <shinu> socomm: because sometimes hoary used to ask me to insert the cd in, if i dont have the cd, can it take the package from the internet?
[11:30] <LaserLine> Karhuton "nvidia_afp 8412   1"   and second line "agpgart     34888  2  nvidia_agp,fglrx"
[11:30] <socomm> shinu, Just comment the CD entry line out.
[11:30] <crimsun> will-c: one other person has gotten an audigy 4 to work, but emu404-based, no.
[11:30] <regeya> doosht: let me know if you find anyone here.
[11:30] <EnsignRedshirt> I've had evince crash after as few as 3 reloads.  Anyone else?
[11:30] <doosht> im a linux virgin and just installd this ubuntu. Wow its tough but i like it
[11:30] <LaserLine> Karthuton that's the output for the line you posted earlier. but i don't know if I should use AGP support...
[11:31] <triplep> i'm trying to add deb     http://www.hellion.org.uk/debian sid main to my sources, but it won't access, infact, no new sources ever seem to work. ideas?
[11:31] <Karhuton> LaserLine, yeah. nvidia_agp is your external agp driver (external to fglrx)
[11:31] <izachi> shinu, you can comment the cd line out from synaptic too
[11:31] <izachi> :)
[11:31] <crimsun> will-c: so paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:31] <Karhuton> LaserLine, so you don't want internal agp driver of fglrx
[11:31] <amonkey> gusto5, anyway to check? i'm messing with ports incase rr just conincedently started blocking it at the same time.
[11:31] <gusto5> am i the only one who doesnt know how to run visualboyadvance in ubuntu?
[11:31] <socomm> GNU/Linucks.
[11:31] <gusto5> amonkey, go to terminal and type in java -version i believe
[11:31] <shinu> socomm: ok, but doesnt the entry for breezy look different? because the line in hoary right now mentions 'hoary' do i have to change that to breezy or something?
[11:31] <LaserLine> Karhuton So I should choose Yes for "Do you want to use the external AGP GART Module?"
[11:31] <mustard5> amonkey, well if breezy doesnt have what azureus needed from breezy repos it would break right?  So what azureus needs is in hoary-extras I would say
[11:31] <Minusmanus> gusto5: try "gnomeboyadvance" .. GNOME-frontend for the emulator.
[11:31] <shinu> izachi: i dont use synaptic :P
[11:31] <doosht> is ubuntu based on Debian?
[11:31] <crimsun> dabaR: the row of icons?
[11:31] <Karhuton> LaserLine, figure it out
[11:31] <izachi> oh
[11:31] <crimsun> doosht: yes.
[11:32] <socomm> Are you trying to upgrade to breezy?
[11:32] <socomm> shinu, If so read the topic.
[11:32] <regeya> doosht: ubuntu was meticulously built from scratch using a command-line hex editor
[11:32] <Stricklin> Any ideas why Gnomebaker keeps quitting on me?
[11:32] <amonkey> mustard5, azureus starts fine, just can't connect to people
[11:32] <amonkey> gusto5, it's vversion 1.4.2
[11:32] <doosht> i downloaded "kde" earlier but coming from windows i just couldnt install it. Well done to all u guys who know how to use linux
[11:32] <LaserLine> Karhuton I never did this, and I don't to screw up my system, that's why I'm asking for your help. I searched the net before, and that's why I'm here, and I'll be glad if you could help me out...
[11:32] <adrakoa> hi
[11:32] <Karhuton> LaserLine, your system won't brake
[11:33] <will-c> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3210
[11:33] <gusto5> amonkey, try removing and reinstalling azureus?
[11:33] <Karhuton> LaserLine, just rerun the setup if something doesn't work :
[11:33] <sambagirl> is there way to change from gnome to kde?
[11:33] <Karhuton> )
[11:33] <crimsun> argh, gnomebaker 0.5.0 released two days after breezy
[11:33] <chasmarang> Hi dabaR!  I did this and rebooted, but it didn't work so I rebooted again and it wrote over the interface and I only got one IP so I rebooted again and I got only one IP - so it seems to be alright again
[11:33] <chasmarang> *
[11:33] <crimsun> I just knew something like that would happen
[11:33] <gusto5> Minusmanus, where can i get gnomeboyadvance?
[11:33] <LaserLine> Karhuton but I don't understand that question.... maybe it's my english.
[11:33] <regeya> doosht: always best for someone new to thething to use a distribution.  if you want kde, I can readily suggest kubuntu.
[11:33] <amonkey> gusto5, will try
[11:33] <regeya> sambagirl: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <socomm> gusto5, The net?
[11:33] <gusto5> lol socomm
[11:33] <doosht> thanks regeya
[11:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone?  Try hitting ctrl-R several times while viewing a PDF file in evince.  For me, it dies.
[11:34] <chasmarang> dabaR are you there
[11:34] <sambagirl> thanks will i need to reboot?
[11:34] <Karhuton> LaserLine, puuuhh..... you want external agp
[11:34] <sambagirl> regeya?
[11:34] <shinu> ok , thanks a lot
[11:34] <dabaR> yup
[11:34] <doosht> im using a celeron 366 (dont laugh) is that sufficnet for ubuntu?
[11:34] <socomm> Don't mention it.
[11:34] <adrakoa> i have a problem with xorg.conf ( i think ), in console all right, but in gnome the keys alt and alt gr don't work... i try with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ( /etc/X11/xorg.conf ), but anything...
[11:34] <LaserLine> Karhuton that's what i checked.... (you don't have to get angry with me....)
[11:35] <crimsun> will-c: does muting External Amplifier work?
[11:35] <socomm> doosht, Yes. But don't expect to run GNOME or any of the other fancy Desktop Environments.
[11:35] <chapeaurouge> hmm// breezy delivered with PREEMPT disabled?
[11:35] <doosht> ok Socom, thanks
[11:35] <chasmarang> it didn't work the first time so I rebooted again and it worked so I rebooted again and it worked properly again so I think it may be fixed
[11:35] <bur[n] er> doosht: might wanna use xfce
[11:35] <socomm> doosht, Try to stick to minimalistic window managers.
[11:35] <iapx8088> breezy is astonishing
[11:35] <izachi> does any one knows how do i adjust hotplug's permissions on /dev/raw1394 so i can use kino as a normal user? you r help is appreciated :)
[11:35] <bur[n] er> doosht: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[11:35] <kitty_> guys my breezy wont update the backport packages
[11:35] <kitty_> how i fix?
[11:35] <crimsun> chapeaurouge: yes.
[11:36] <doosht> were do i type apt-get install xubuntu etc?
[11:36] <mustard5> doosht, I've seen gone running on a 300mhz Celeron with 64mb RAM and 3gb hard drive
[11:36] <andril> does anyone have the packages from http://ubuntuguide.org/ local?
[11:36] <sambagirl> dabar your saying yup for me, no?
[11:36] <mustard5> doosht, I've seen gnne running on a 300mhz Celeron with 64mb RAM and 3gb hard drive
[11:36] <tristanmike> kitty_, there are no backports for breezy as of yet, iirc
[11:36] <samue1> as far as i know there is no backports for breezy kitty
[11:36] <EnsignRedshirt> Breezy has backports already?
[11:36] <dabaR> chasmarang: sounds ok.
[11:36] <chapeaurouge> crimsun, yes what?
[11:36] <kitty_> any word when abouts?
[11:36] <lampshade> bur[n] er:  There isn't a package for enlightenment like that is there?  like eubuntu-desktop?
[11:36] <bur[n] er> doosht: have you ever used synaptic?  you can do it through that instead of at a terminal
[11:36] <crimsun> no, Breezy does not have backports.
[11:36] <Minusmanus> gusto5: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gnomeboyadvance
[11:36] <mustard5> doosht, sluggish but still working
[11:36] <dabaR> sambagirl: no, in response to an enquiry to me.
[11:36] <doosht> my windows systtem is a64 but using this old junk rig to try linux
[11:36] <bur[n] er> lampshade: u can check ;)  i don't think so though
[11:36] <crimsun> chapeaurouge: I answered your question.
[11:36] <gusto5> thank you alot, Minusmanus
[11:36] <Minusmanus> gusto5: there are other front-ends as well
[11:36] <sambagirl> regeya do i have to reboot after i change to kde?
[11:36] <doosht> i dont know what synaptic is
[11:36] <m0zone> whats easyest way to burn a iso in ubutnu?
[11:36] <chasmarang> yes dabaR - they should call you abarakdabara
[11:36] <dabaR> crimsun: have you noticed a change in how breezy's nautilus displays the current path?
[11:36] <crimsun> chapeaurouge: grep PREEMPT /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[11:36] <mustard5> doosht, go to town on it then if its an old machine doing nothing
[11:36] <lampshade> doosht:  heh, I think that's what most people start as.  Win on main then linux on bacckup box then linux on main box
[11:36] <bur[n] er> doosht: know how to open a terminal?
[11:37] <crimsun> dabaR: the row of icons?
[11:37] <socomm> !synaptic
[11:37] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:37] <dabaR> Yes. Instead of a text field, the buttons.
[11:37] <dabaR> crimsun: ^
[11:37] <will-c> crimsun: well i can mute it but still no sound
[11:37] <bur[n] er> or there's synaptic ---^ _
[11:37] <doosht> no i dont know how to open a terminal
[11:37] <chapeaurouge> crimson, yes exactly what i did... not set.
[11:37] <mustard5> lampshade, thats how I went
[11:37] <alpha232> mplayerhq.hu is down ARGH
[11:37] <crimsun> chapeaurouge: that's intentional.
[11:37] <dabaR> crimsun: do you know whether it can be changed back?
[11:37] <will-c> crimsun: and when i play an mp3 in xmms the cpu is like at 90%
[11:37] <bur[n] er> !tell doosht about synaptic
[11:37] <will-c> weird
[11:37] <socomm> doosht, You have a long road a head of you.
[11:37] <tirzah> greetings all... :)
[11:37] <crimsun> dabaR: there may be a gconf setting
[11:37] <socomm> Bon chance.
[11:37] <chapeaurouge> so, yes, it is _not_ set. Not yes, it is set.
[11:37] <doosht> yes please do
[11:38] <chapeaurouge> crimsun, you were just being unbiguous ;)
[11:38] <doosht> yes i know, its tough
[11:38] <bur[n] er> doosht: you have a message ;)
[11:38] <chasmarang> yes dabaR - they should call you abaR-k-dabaR
[11:38] <dabaR> crimsun: Ya, I thought that would be the place to look.
[11:38] <ISOcrates> hey guys.  how do i download the kernel source?
[11:38] <dabaR> chasmarang: sometimes. Only some things I know how to do.
[11:38] <doosht> thanks burner!
[11:38] <Logikal> sup guys
[11:38] <socomm> http://www.kernel.org
[11:38] <crimsun> chapeaurouge: I what?
[11:38] <bur[n] er> doosht: good luck senor
[11:38] <bur[n] er> :)
[11:38] <socomm> It's all there.
[11:38] <doosht> i'll need it lol
[11:38] <ISOcrates> can i get it through apt-get?
[11:38] <crimsun> will-c: you're not using a self-created ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf, correct?
[11:38] <chasmarang> thanks again - hope it stays working
[11:39] <tristanmike> kitty_, apparently backports wont open until the development for dapper starts, since Breezy is new, everything is pretty much already the newest
[11:39] <bur[n] er> ISOcrates: search apt :P
[11:39] <chapeaurouge> crimsun, your answer were pretting to confusion.
[11:39] <socomm> apt-cache search kernel | grep -i source
[11:39] <mustard5> ISOcrates, synaptic
[11:39] <socomm> Or something like that.
[11:39] <doosht> everyone gotta start somewhere i guess
[11:39] <chapeaurouge> crimsun, as to yes it was, or yes it wasn't
[11:39] <will-c> crimsun: dont think so
[11:40] <ISOcrates> ok cool, thanks
[11:40] <crimsun> chapeaurouge: it was unequivocally unambiguous. I said "yes" because you asked whether it delivered disabled. I then pointed you to the command to verify it.
[11:40] <will-c> crimsun: no those files dont exist
[11:40] <CoffeeMan> hey I am running live (on a Gateway 8510gz) and I had to install the fglrx driver to get xorg to work properly and I was wondering If I could save the ramdisk session to a usb key.
[11:40] <crimsun> will-c: ok, please execute the following: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[11:41] <will-c> crimsun :ok ;)
[11:41] <chapeaurouge> crimsun, you're right, my bad. I just re-read my question. I thought i had asked it another way.
[11:41] <crimsun> will-c: then unmute Master and PCM and adjust the volumes
[11:41] <samue1> anyone know a way to show only part of the filename if its over a certain length in nautilus?
[11:41] <LaserLine> Karhuton Thanks, it seems to work... could you please explain why I had to use that script ? and it didn't work by it self ?
[11:41] <chapeaurouge> do we know why PREEMPT got turned off?
[11:41] <Karhuton> LaserLine, what works now?
[11:42] <LaserLine> Karhuton Xwindows XV
[11:42] <Stricklin> How would I install this: http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/v2/ ?
[11:42] <will-c> when i run modprobe snd-intel8x0 i get all these errors.. i will paste them hold on
[11:43] <Karhuton> LaserLine, fglrxconfig is _the_ configurator for fglrx driver. It knows a lot more configuration options
[11:43] <LaserLine> Karhuton I noticed in the new Xorg.con they refer to xfree86, is that the same ?
[11:43] <Karhuton> LaserLine, yes
[11:43] <will-c> crimsun: no ignore that i was being dumb
[11:43] <samue1> Striklin you can get gnomebacker from synaptic
[11:43] <Karhuton> LaserLine, xorg was made from xfree86. They are essentially the same
[11:43] <Buddha|> Does anyone know of an Enlightenment 16.8 package for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <sambagirl> ok i is asking me to choose between kdm and gdm. i take it kdm is for kde?
[11:44] <will-c> crimsun: success!!! :D
[11:44] <LaserLine> Karhutom Ok.
[11:44] <crimsun> will-c: good. I'm working on a script to automate that for Dapper.
[11:44] <rata> hi
[11:45] <ethy> Where can I get Mozilla ActiveX Control for Breezy?
[11:45] <will-c> crimsun: so will i have to do this each time i reboot?
[11:45] <dtamas> sambagirl: you can choose both *de, it is not for the actual desktop
[11:45] <crimsun> will-c: no, just this once.
[11:45] <HaMF> Hi
[11:45] <will-c> crimsun: so what was going on?
[11:45] <rata> how can i know if there is in the ubuntu instalation cd, there is a tool fot 're-partitioning' ntfs partitions ?
[11:45] <crimsun> will-c: the mixer element names changed
[11:45] <LaserLine> Karhuton Does Xorg.conf responsible for numlock on or off ?
[11:45] <Stricklin> What am I doing wrong? I enter 'sudo chmod -R 600' in terminal and I'm told I'm using too few arguements
[11:45] <will-c> crimsun: after the update?
[11:46] <ubuntu> can i play mp3?
[11:46] <nomed> hi all
[11:46] <ethy> !activex
[11:46] <ubotu> ethy: What?
[11:46] <will-c> will-c: cool , well thanks a lot for your help man :)
[11:46] <crimsun> will-c: no, between ALSA versions. Hoary shipped with 1.0.6 and 1.0.8; Breezy shipped with 1.0.9.
[11:46] <ubuntu> how can i play mp3?
[11:46] <nomed> is there a way of dwnl the breezy packages to have a local mirror ?
[11:46] <crimsun> ubuntu: with what application?
[11:46] <mustard5> nomed, yes
[11:47] <rata> nomed, yes
[11:47] <nomed> how ?
[11:47] <dtamas> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player - a clone of winamp
[11:47] <mustard5> good question :D
[11:47] <alpha232> ok anyone here successfully installed mplayer? I've added the multiverse to my sources and done an apt-get update, still not locating mplayer-586
[11:47] <gusto5> ubuntu, can you nto play them in rhytm box at the moment?
[11:47] <will-c> crimsun: dont suppose you know how to get mp3s working in totem?
[11:47] <mustard5> nomed, I don't know :D
[11:47] <nomed> mustard5, the same
[11:47] <ubuntu> is there any application to play mp3 on ubuntu?
[11:47] <crimsun> will-c: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[11:47] <mustard5> nomed, there are HOW TO's in the customisaton tips and tricks section of the ubuntu forum
[11:47] <gusto5> ubuntu, you can start with rhythmbox
[11:47] <crimsun> ubuntu: see what I just asked will-c
[11:47] <mustard5> I know its in there somewhere
[11:47] <TTilus> Stricklin: using too few arguements?
[11:48] <will-c> crimsun: yeh its installed
[11:48] <crimsun> will-c: then you should be able to play mp3s
[11:48] <ubuntu> thanx  a lot gusto5
[11:48] <mustard5> nomed, do a search in the ubuntu forums and you will find it eventually
[11:48] <will-c> crimsun: it just says 'no decoders found for this stream'
[11:48] <rata> nomed, 2 ways.... (a) apt-cache it is not a local mirror, but every packet someone downloads stay and if someone is going to donwload that packet, it use the one on dthe local mirror, and if it isnt there, it downloads
[11:48] <doosht> ok ive got that synaptic manager up but how do i get KDE?
[11:48] <crimsun> will-c: run sudo gst-register-0.8
[11:49] <TTilus> Stricklin: (if you are told "you do X", you are quite likely doing X)
[11:49] <[FiDO] > alright I'm having problems installing a fresh version of breezy it keeps finding a previous installation even though I zeroed the hd
[11:49] <crimsun> will-c: then restart totem
[11:49] <samue1> does anyone know a way to show only part of a filename if its over a certain length in nautilus? (last time asking i know your all busy :P )
[11:49] <alpha232> god what we go through for pr0n
[11:49] <gusto5> will-c, do you have all the codecs installed?
[11:49] <will-c> crimsun: hmmm still no good
[11:49] <nomed> rata, i need to make 1 / 2 / 3 /1000 dvd for a friend that has dial up connection
[11:49] <[FiDO] > what do you need to do to make sure its completely clean
[11:49] <mrproper> How can I tell what program is using a certain port?
[11:49] <nomed> and he would install ubuntu
[11:49] <crimsun> will-c: does installing totem-xine resolve the issue?
[11:49] <will-c> gusto5: well i used to have mp3 codecs i guess before the upgrade...
[11:50] <rata> nomed, (b) http://www.ubuntu.com/download/mirror/document_view
[11:50] <ubuntu> is it possible run divx on ubuntu? how?
[11:50] <erUSUL> mrproper: netstat --inet -n -p
[11:50] <gusto5> will-c, ok then.
[11:50] <the_headhunter> ubuntu: install w32codecs
[11:50] <rata> ubuntu, yes, read the documentation in the topic (w32codecs)
[11:50] <mustard5> !tell ubuntu about w32deb
[11:51] <mustard5> !tell ubuntu about hoary-extras
[11:51] <ubuntu> thanx
[11:51] <dtamas> ubuntu: the w32codecs package is in ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat sid repo
[11:51] <mustard5> ubuntu you will need to add hoary-extras for libdvdcss
[11:51] <nalioth> dtamas: please dont advise that
[11:51] <[FiDO] > I'm trying to install breezy on a hd that previously had hoary installed on it but it fails when installing the base system cause if finds a previous installation
[11:51] <nomed> rata i think i'll use wget .. grep filename: Packages and wget ..
[11:51] <nalioth> !tell ubuntu about w32deb
[11:51] <ubuntu> i'm new on ubuntu ok people
[11:51] <dtamas> nalioth: why?
[11:52] <nalioth> dtamas: debian bineries will break ubuntu linux
[11:52] <nomed> 110 Gb using rsync is really to much
[11:52] <gusto5> ok ubuntu. we're just teling you what to do :)
[11:52] <rata> nomed, all ? i think most apropiated is atp-zip. Or, if he has a BIG disk with nothing to do, hace their own mirror... but it woudl be out date
[11:52] <will-c> crimsun: it moans about some dependency issue when i install totem-xine
[11:52] <ubuntu> ok gusto5. thanks
[11:52] <rata> nomed, to have the local mirror, thats the way
[11:52] <will-c> crimsun: do i load the totem-xine with totem command still?
[11:52] <ubuntu> i'll try and come back here.
[11:53] <nomed> rata i would just i386 binary for breezy
[11:53] <ubuntu> bye everybody
[11:53] <rata> nomed, it has no point on burning that quantity of dvds, it would be ot of date in just a few days
[11:53] <[FiDO] > can someone tell me how to completely erase your hd and master boot record so breezy won't detect a previous installation
[11:53] <gusto5> lol...i cant believe he came in with the nick ubuntu.
[11:53] <amonkey> mustard5, the hoary-extra azureus is 2.3.0.0. azureus keeps trying to update to 2.3.0.4 but it keeps not taking and trying to do it again. what can i do?
[11:53] <dtamas> nalioth: breezy-extras repo are there avaliable somewhere?
[11:54] <Karhuton> LaserLine, no
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> breezy stable yet?
[11:54] <gusto5> Mr_Milenko, YES :)
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> take that as a no
[11:54] <rata> [FiDO] , just install breezy over it, telling grub to install on /dev/hd[a-d] 
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> oh
[11:54] <thoreauputic> gusto5: it's just the default on install, which he accepted I guess
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> really?
[11:54] <nalioth> dtamas: not yet
[11:54] <Karhuton> LaserLine, install package xnumlock
[11:54] <petterah> hello people, anyone familiar with "skolelinux"? or debian-edu? Is the edubuntu distribution of ubuntu linux similar? That is, when i install, its complete with ltsp or lessdisks out of the box?
[11:54] <[FiDO] > I've tried that rata
[11:54] <zrothe> Where is the default plugin dir for gaim?
[11:54] <mustard5> amonkey, I dont know sorry..never used azureus
[11:54] <[FiDO] > still finds it
[11:54] <rata> [FiDO] , and ?
[11:54] <gusto5> amonkey, gimme a sec
[11:54] <[FiDO] > fails when installing base system
[11:54] <[FiDO] > its driving me nuts
[11:54] <[FiDO] > I even zeroed my hd
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> sad thing is.. im on dialup and my modem doesnt want to run in ubuntu
[11:54] <Karhuton> LaserLine, correction: numlockx
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> :(
[11:54] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:54] <gusto5> amonkey, do you have azureus from hoary?
[11:54] <rata> [FiDO] , you _must_ erase the partition where you are installing
[11:55] <[FiDO] > and ran diagnostics on it to make sure there wer no erros
[11:55] <TTilus> does breezy support installation to sw raid partition (to boot from raid)
[11:55] <MachineScrew> is there a problem with the repos ?
[11:55] <amonkey> mustard5, i had azureus from hoary, just installed the hoary-extras version in breezy.
[11:55] <[FiDO] > that's the first option and I chose it
[11:55] <gusto5> MachineScrew, nope.
[11:55] <amonkey> gusto5, er.. i meant youo
[11:55] <gusto5> amonkey, you meant me what?
[11:55] <rata> [FiDO] , in the instalation, by default, it wouldnt erase the partition...
[11:55] <mustard5> amonkey,  yep..your on the right path...but you'll have to seek better advice than I can give you :D
[11:55] <MachineScrew> gusto5, I keep getting errors
[11:55] <nalioth> MachineScrew: which ones?
[11:55] <[FiDO] > ok rata so how do I make it
[11:55] <cliechti> i'm trying to use eclipse-jdt but it starts on startup on breezy/amd64
[11:55] <gusto5> amonkey, refer to this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272&highlight=azureus
[11:56] <cliechti> s/starts/crashes
[11:56] <rata> [FiDO] , boot the instalation cd, and edit the partitions manually, select where is your root (/) tell to erase that partition, and select a swap too
[11:57] <[FiDO] > ok I'll try that
[11:57] <dtamas> nalioth: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29
[11:57] <spiekey> hello!
[11:57] <rata> [FiDO] , good luck!
[11:57] <[FiDO] > it should erase automatically .. lol
[11:57] <spiekey> is there a ubuntu release which supports xen?
[11:57] <[FiDO] > thanks man
[11:57] <erUSUL> gusto5: i have downloaded visualboyadvance and a rom out of curiosity and it works doing just: VisualBoyAdvance *.gba
[11:57] <zrothe> Where is the default plugin dir for gaim?
[11:57] <rata> [FiDO] , no, by default it s the option to not format that partition
[11:57] <nalioth> dtamas: your point being?
[11:58] <MachineScrew> gusto5, take a look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3211
[11:58] <TTilus> i would like to stack my disks to raid device during installation and put ubuntu on newly created /dev/md0
[11:58] <[FiDO] > ok that's my problem then
[11:58] <[FiDO] > how big should I make the swap
[11:58] <TTilus> i couldnt do that with warty
[11:58] <[FiDO] > like what is a standard swap size
[11:58] <MachineScrew> gusto5, same crap happened when i used another mirror
[11:58] <rata> [FiDO] , we hope that :)
[11:58] <rata> [FiDO] , it depends on your ram, mainly....
[11:58] <TTilus> ...and didnt see any news on that during hoary release
[11:59] <[FiDO] > yeah I have 256
[11:59] <[v2hja] > hello
[11:59] <[FiDO] > its on my old P500
[11:59] <will-c> crimsun: yeh i needed to remove totem-gstreamer first then install totem-xine, then mp3 work ok
[11:59] <[v2hja] > could someone name a way how to make ubuntu use more than 850mb of my ram +
[11:59] <rata> [FiDO] , hmm, with 200/300 mb should be enaugh.... whats your hd size ?
[11:59] <gusto5> MachineScrew, im sorry but i dont know why that's happening.
[11:59] <[FiDO] > i have a 60 and a 20
[12:00] <erUSUL> [FiDO] : then ~512 MB wouldn't hurt
[12:00] <[FiDO] > I'm installing linux on the 60
[12:00] <will-c> bit sucky that totem doesnt support mp3 out of the box...